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Insomniaque
08-24-10, 14:09
Hello,

It seems nothing has been said about Kherson for a long time. Does anyone have updated info? I'll have to spend a night there on a business trip in September: will I find any action or is it fucking dead?

The ideal for me would be a club where you can pick up pros/semi-pros (as the RP used to be in Kiev) or a strip where you can take the chicks out. I am not into sponsoring and the Mamba approach is not for me.

Any ideas? Or will I have to switch to DIY mode? Any feedback will be most appreciated.

Kurenda
08-24-10, 23:43
Most likely there's no action in Kherson?
Kherson is not interesting at all. Thanks to two Americans who set up their "marriage agencies" there taking money from other Americans by bringing them to "romance tours" to Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa promising them they will find 18 year model type to bring home as their wive. We all know the drill.
Thanks to them when ever a foreigner ends up in Kherson everybody thinks he's a guy looking for wive and the type is not popular there.
Also good part of Kherson population is Greek in origin which means different looks and mentality from the rest of Ukraine.
But there can be some action. Russian is needed without it will be hard. Since you're interested in clubs there's something for you. A club called "Amiga" (or "Amigo" I forgot, sorry). You can pick up pros/semi-pros there. Keep in mind the quality will be low and price might surprise you. Many locals told me the good material girls who wanted to try their careers in p4p are heading for Kiev of course. And in smaller parts in Odessa. Student types, coming back home to Kherson at weekends behaving as untouchable saints.
Basically no need to waste time on Kherson even just for a night. Just sleep it over, accumulating energy and saving money for other place you'll go next like Kiev or Odessa.

Insomniaque
08-25-10, 00:24
Most likely there's no action in Kherson?

Kherson is not interesting at all. Thanks to two Americans who set up their "marriage agencies" there taking money from other Americans by bringing them to "romance tours" to Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa promising them they will find 18 year model type to bring home as their wive. We all know the drill.

Thanks to them when ever a foreigner ends up in Kherson everybody thinks he's a guy looking for wive and the type is not popular there.

Also good part of Kherson population is Greek in origin which means different looks and mentality from the rest of Ukraine.

But there can be some action. Russian is needed without it will be hard. Since you're interested in clubs there's something for you. A club called "Amiga" (or "Amigo" I forgot, sorry). You can pick up pros/semi-pros there. Keep in mind the quality will be low and price might surprise you. Many locals told me the good material girls who wanted to try their careers in p4p are heading for Kiev of course. And in smaller parts in Odessa. Student types, coming back home to Kherson at weekends behaving as untouchable saints.

Basically no need to waste time on Kherson even just for a night. Just sleep it over, accumulating energy and saving money for other place you'll go next like Kiev or Odessa.Geez. Well maybe we'll go and have a look at that club you mention, but if it's low end I imagine I'll just sleep like a good boy and keep my energy for the next night where I will be in Kiev!

Thanks for the advice!

Er, by the way, does anybody know a girl-friendly hotel in Kherson? Just in case.

Gergiev
08-25-10, 03:13
You guys have entirely the wrong attitude rushing to Bez's defense.
He is a big boy and entirely capable of defending himself.

What we SHOULD be doing is using this Jackson-sent opportunity to torment Bez.
Just think of it - he is like a pit-bull on a short leash, straining to get into the fight, but cannot.
Thus we are free to make idiotic remarks, tell outlandish lies about our adventures in the provincial towns,
correct his spelling and grammer, and criticize the quality of his photos all with impunity - at least for 24 hours!

By the time his misanthropic, misspelled, misquotes are posted, the discussion will have moved on and his witty retorts will be buried like yesterday's below-the-fold news!
Plus he has to be on best behaviour, ere he be banned forever, whereas we can go on taunting and baiting him with virtual impunity.

Come on guys, this whole forum is about giving in to your basest desires.
So Bezz-bait and enjoy it!!
Well, GT, when you put it like that... :)

Reiner Otto
08-25-10, 07:26
Since you're interested in clubs there's something for you. A club called "Amiga" (or "Amigo" I forgot, sorry). You can pick up pros/semi-pros there.

It is called "Amigo". Music is more into the 80s, also rock, sometimes live performances. Visitors not of the "teenies" age, which I consider an advantage.
All the rest, you wrote, I can agree on.

Gentleman Travel
08-25-10, 14:49
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Ha! Jackson has even taken away your formatting!
But actually it is difficult to tell the difference from your usual illiterate screeds!

Reiner Otto
08-26-10, 07:52
I'll have to spend a night there on a business trip in September: will I find any action or is it fucking dead?

When will you be there ? I am planning end of September to be in Nikolaev, so we might arrange something.

Jon32
08-26-10, 09:59
Ha! Jackson has even taken away your formatting!
But actually it is difficult to tell the difference from your usual illiterate screeds!


lol... About time this happened, now put him in his own forum.

Insomniaque
08-26-10, 11:31
When will you be there ? I am planning end of September to be in Nikolaev, so we might arrange something.I will be there exactly on Wednesday 8 September; we'll spend only a day here and a night, then back to Odessa.

I won't have much time as we are here to work (why would you to Kherson otherwise?) but, well, maybe a drink in the evening? We can talk about it via PM.

Reiner Otto
08-26-10, 23:08
I will be there exactly on Wednesday 8 September; we'll spend only a day here and a night, then back to Odessa.

I won't have much time as we are here to work (why would you to Kherson otherwise?) but, well, maybe a drink in the evening? We can talk about it via PM.

Sorry, the date does not fit :-(

One recommendation: My favourite restaurant in Kherson, both daytime and evening: "Nostalgia". Sounds like Italian cooking, but it is not: Good UA-style dishes, and international. Also some kind of cocktail lounge, and winter garden. Reasonable priced. In the very centre, walking area. When facing the entrance of the theatre, turn left, first street left, 100m right side. No special signs/advertisements, besides the good cars in front.

And in case, you have good luck, sometimes in the afternoon you will find there the most beautiful women of the city.

Insomniaque
08-27-10, 09:45
One recommendation: My favourite restaurant in Kherson, both daytime and evening: "Nostalgia". Sounds like Italian cooking, but it is not: Good UA-style dishes, and international. Also some kind of cocktail lounge, and winter garden. Reasonable priced. In the very centre, walking area. When facing the entrance of the theatre, turn left, first street left, 100m right side. No special signs/advertisements, besides the good cars in front.

And in case, you have good luck, sometimes in the afternoon you will find there the most beautiful women of the city.Thanks for the piece of advice, we might try this one out.

Cruiser D
09-02-10, 10:32
I realize this is your board Jackson and you can rightly do whatever you'd like. But we aren't exactly reporting on how to fund the local orphanages.

I was wondering where Bez had disappeared to as I was wading through three months of wankers postings. Not to say Bez isn't an occasional wanker himself. :)




Know exactly what you're talking about. Met the DJ on the train out to the provinces, and he invited me to the exclusive klub on Saturday night for his show. Long drive out to the suburbs at midnight. Only the richest young people were in there, so my plan to waltz in and waltz out with some little spinner/sponsorette didn't go according to plan, because probably every girl that was in the place already had more money than I did.

These were the girls that party every night until 10 in the morning, and then sleep until 6PM.

All the guys in the klub were under 30 also, if I hadn't been invited by the DJ, they wouldn't have let me in. You'd have to be an oligarch to score in there.

Lots of hot stuff, I got none. I might have been able to scratch up some interest, if I was offering $400 or $500 to one of the go go dancers, and to wait until 5 AM when their shift was done, but that's just too rich for my blood, and I have no energy left at 5AM anyway.

So disappointed, I slunk off into the night, resigned to my lower station in Ukraine society to find willing poor white trash sponsorettes in the $120 to $160 range, but I love them much better than the flash & champanski crowd anyway. Bez will always be a man of the black earth onion and potatoe eating watermelon growing people, kommisar for the proletariat.

Bez Bezarra
09-06-10, 01:13
I realized someone had disappeared Bez, for being an occasional wanker.As mysteriously as my 8-24-10 post was instantaneously scrambled, it has just as mysteriously been unscrambled without explanation. Just another amazing ISG coincidence.

Whether or not my post status will stay permanently restricted on 24 hour delay (to delete offensive content), remains an official ISG secret.

To Queever D:
As far as where I've been, I've been a busy little bee. And you know the busy little bee has been up to?

I solemnly swear, the little bee has been up to no good.
Monger Mismanaged.

Grainy days happier times, vision of seduction of our glorious motherland:

Cruiser D
09-06-10, 20:39
Bez, I love you man. Gimme a hug.

Gergiev
09-08-10, 04:23
to delete offensive content

Bez,

If the offensive content is deleted, what exactly will be left? :)

VG.

Gentleman Travel
09-08-10, 15:36
Bez, I love you man. Gimme a hug.
Glad to see you two have kissed and made up.
Now Cruiser, be a pal and show Bez how to find salons in Kiev so that he does not have to hunt around Slavutich and Pripyat for cheap, skanky sex.

Bimbo Boy
09-08-10, 17:27
Glad to see you two have kissed and made up.
Now Cruiser, be a pal and show Bez how to find salons in Kiev so that he does not have to hunt around Slavutich and Pripyat for cheap, skanky sex.
Even if you find Bez's prose to be offensive, I find it refreshing and fun. It is his special kind of caustic humour. Quite eastern by the way and rarely found in the West.
And I happen to be interested in adventures in Slavutich and Pripyat, as I will probably never go there.
Regards

Uke Boy
09-08-10, 19:49
Now Cruiser, be a pal and show Bez how to find salons in Kiev so that he does not have to hunt around Slavutich and Pripyat for cheap, skanky sex.GT, don't you understand that cheap, skanky sex in the provinces is Bez's forte. The rest of settle for the beauties and the comforts of Kiev and Odessa. Bez is an indefatigable pioneer and trailblazer, going forth where the rest of us fear to tread.

The forum would be a far worse place without his unique style.

Jackson, return Bez's privileges!

Gentleman Travel
09-08-10, 20:35
And I happen to be interested in adventures in Slavutich and Pripyat, as I will probably never go there.
And a good thing, too!
Since Pripyat is a "dead village" rendered uninhabitable by radio-active contamination from Chernobyl,
and you have to wear prophylactic "rubbers" on your feet to walk there, it is probably stoney ground even for Bez to scare up a date!

Unless he wants to do those giant, glowing carp in the cooling ponds...

p.s. Bez, here is the "hottest" restaurant in Pripyat,
probably a good place to pickup your usual quality of provincial dyev...

Markharding
09-17-10, 16:12
I had a superb trip to Agadir, Morroco! Many beautiful girls. They chase you here if they know you are westerner. It is like Ukraine 10 years ago (now Ukraine has become a shit hole for mongerers, read all my negative posts on the forum of Ukraine).

I had no problems meeting freebies at the beach, in the market, at cafes, even in the streets. It is normally the 3rd date rule, you can sleep with them after 3 dates.

If P4P is ok, nightclubs are full with models. For 50 dollars, you can have the girl of your dream.

Only problem is one has to be patient with the language, they understand French and very little English, but this had no effect, they still understood basic phrases.

Happy hunting!

Ivanvlad
09-18-10, 16:38
I had a superb trip to Agadir, Morroco! Many beautiful girls. They chase you here if they know you are westerner. It is like Ukraine 10 years ago (now Ukraine has become a shit hole for mongerers, read all my negative posts on the forum of Ukraine).

I had no problems meeting freebies at the beach, in the market, at cafes, even in the streets. It is normally the 3rd date rule, you can sleep with them after 3 dates.

If P4P is ok, nightclubs are full with models. For 50 dollars, you can have the girl of your dream.Markharding, where are your reports on Morocco? Thank you

Stevie69
09-21-10, 13:29
Hello:

Has anyone tried this agency?

If the photos are even close to real, it is definitely a good value, $350 for an entire day!

http://www.donezk-dreams.com/rates.html

Jojosun
09-21-10, 20:12
Hello:

Has anyone tried this agency?

If the photos are even close to real, it is definitely a good value, $350 for an entire day!

http://www.donezk-dreams.com/rates.htmlDown side of this agency , is the %50 down payment.

I wouldn't part with any money before meeting the girl and agreeing to services.

Misterxxx
09-21-10, 20:12
Hello:

Has anyone tried this agency?

If the photos are even close to real, it is definitely a good value, $350 for an entire day!

http://www.donezk-dreams.com/rates.htmlHo, ho, ho... Forget it. Cheap prices = 99 % scam. Read this:

Payment: down payment 50% from total amount, balance to the model.

Bez Bezarra
09-22-10, 12:12
Bez, you should try a Pripyat restaurant to pick up one of those giant, glowing carp from the radioactive Chernobyl cooling ponds.

That's your usual quality of provincial dyev..., girls that are so ugly, they look like mutant fish.Gt.

I'm certain everyone will agree that you have proven your level of talent and commitment to ISG, by all the photos of gorgeous women that you have shared here.

Sorry to disappoint you Uke, but at this time, the only trails I'll be blazing will be dyevushka snail-trails, as they drag their butts across my floor. I have upgraded and am enjoying the good life, so no need to venture into the unknown recesses of the steppe. But you'll have to wait a little longer, to see my new sofa.

In the meantime, here's my preferred restaurant for dyev's, and another mutant carp.

I'm sure that GT would throw this one back into the pond.

Bimbo Boy
09-22-10, 21:05
And a good thing, too!
Since Pripyat is a "dead village" rendered uninhabitable by radio-active contamination from Chernobyl,
and you have to wear prophylactic "rubbers" on your feet to walk there, it is probably stoney ground even for Bez to scare up a date!

Unless he wants to do those giant, glowing carp in the cooling ponds...

p.s. Bez, here is the "hottest" restaurant in Pripyat,
probably a good place to pickup your usual quality of provincial dyev...
Ah Gentleman Travel, you made me laugh so hard! You made my day. Great sense of humour.
My regards!

Journeyfree
09-22-10, 22:10
Hello:

Has anyone tried this agency?

If the photos are even close to real, it is definitely a good value, $350 for an entire day!

http://www.donezk-dreams.com/rates.htmlBoy, I would love to have a fling with victoria secret model Miranda er I mean Anja at the bottom. But I think Orlando would not approve.

Definitely scammy.

Jf

Bez Bezarra
09-22-10, 23:54
Markharding, where are your reports on Morocco?We all would love to see some of these models that your Agadir clubs are so full of and readily available for mongering.

The Belgian maniac that posted photos of a 1000 Moroccan tramps he plugged, they were all hideous beasts. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if your taste is at gutter level. But the only thing they could have modeled for would have been a saddle.

Jojosun
09-24-10, 10:40
We all would love to see some of these models that your Agadir clubs are so full of and readily available for mongering.

The Belgian maniac that posted photos of a 1000 Moroccan tramps he plugged, they were all hideous beasts. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if your taste is at gutter level. But the only thing they could have modeled for would have been a saddle.Bez. Good to see that you are still lurking here.

It would be Half Empty without you. Sigh.

Does it indicate something that I holidayed in Agadir few times, but I didn't take the plunge?

Agadir, very nice for a winter holiday at affordable prices and yes there are some nice looking girls, but no comparison with Kiev. Totally different.

I will believe Mark Harding when he puts his Money where his Mouth is, by buying 2 apartments in Agadir.

Bez Bezarra
09-25-10, 15:16
Bez you still lurk.

It would be Half Empty without you. Sigh.

Does it indicate something that I holidayed in Agadir few times, but I didn't take the plunge?

I will believe Mark Harding when he puts his Money where his Mouth is, by buying 2 apartments in Agadir.It takes more than revoking my Senior privileges, to banish me forthwith.

Someone makes an outrageous claim, and backs it up with nothing but air, you can still count on Bez to remind them, that talk is cheap.

So what does it REALLY indicate, that you've been somewhere a few times with nice looking girls, and you did nothing about it?

I will believe ANYONE, not when they buy 2 apartments, but when they stop talking, and start showing us some girls.

Jojosun
09-26-10, 09:56
It takes more than revoking my Senior privileges, to banish me forthwith.

Someone makes an outrageous claim, and backs it up with nothing but air, you can still count on Bez to remind them, that talk is cheap.

So what does it REALLY indicate, that you've been somewhere a few times with nice looking girls, and you did nothing about it?

I will believe ANYONE, not when they buy 2 apartments, but when they stop talking, and start showing us some girls.Now we are talking. I mean just looking at the Photo.

Yes, there were some nice looking girls in Agadir, but not the Type that I go for.

Hate to be just a Sperm Donor in country such is Morocco, where there is no problem of an ageing population

Gergiev
09-28-10, 01:27
It takes more than revoking my Senior privileges, to banish me forthwith.

You can still count on Bez to remind them, that talk is cheap.
One of your very best, Bez.

Respect!

Jojosun
09-29-10, 13:20
It takes more than revoking my Senior privileges, to banish me forthwith.

Someone makes an outrageous claim, and backs it up with nothing but air, you can still count on Bez to remind them, that talk is cheap.

So what does it REALLY indicate, that you've been somewhere a few times with nice looking girls, and you did nothing about it?

I will believe ANYONE, not when they buy 2 apartments, but when they stop talking, and start showing us some girls.Bez. Watch this space for the kind of girl which would be perfect for the Agadir scene (TOPS).

And unlike your very nice looking girl which you put in the Mongers Domain without any data, profile, this one is complete with digits, data and Price.

It was Business for Me doing great Pleasure with her in MK.

A great mongering destination.

Hold your breath.

Jojosun
09-30-10, 13:36
Bez. Watch this space for the kind of girl which would be perfect for the Agadir scene (TOPS).

And unlike your very nice looking girl which you put in the Mongers Domain without any data, profile, this one is complete with digits, data and Price.

It was Business for Me doing great Pleasure with her in MK.

A great mongering destination.

Hold your breath.Not for much longer.

Here she is.

http://www.madam-beckys-kittens.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=333

Jojosun
09-30-10, 13:43
Bez. Watch this space for the kind of girl which would be perfect for the Agadir scene (TOPS).

And unlike your very nice looking girl which you put in the Mongers Domain without any data, profile, this one is complete with digits, data and Price.

It was Business for Me doing great Pleasure with her in MK.

A great mongering destination.

Hold your breath.And here is another one I did earlier.

http://www.Madam-beckys-kittens.com/escort-girl.php? Girlid=340

Jessie, with the most amazing ASS.

Zena and Jessie are ready, willing, and able when you bring your bucks and ass over to MK.

How about your girl?

Bez Bezarra
10-02-10, 18:27
This is in England, I'm assuming, since the prices are listed in Pounds?

800 quid for one of the prostitutes to stay overnight?

Why pay that much, when I can get a styudenka spinner to stay over for a few beers and some squid snacks? :D

So where is MK, and who the heck is Madame Becky?

Jojosun
10-05-10, 13:32
This is in England, I'm assuming, since the prices are listed in Pounds?

800 quid for one of the prostitutes to stay overnight?

Why pay that much, when I can get a styudenka spinner to stay over for a few beers and some squid snacks? :D

So where is MK, and who the heck is Madame Becky?Here is where MK ,aka Milton Keynes.

One of the newest towns in England about 1/2 hour on the train.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes.


Madame Becky is the name of one of the Incall parlours ,where the girls work.

Or you can have them in your hotel.

I go for short time,so the 800 quid is not an issue.

I will post another to your liking.

Jojosun
10-05-10, 14:06
This is in England, I'm assuming, since the prices are listed in Pounds?

800 quid for one of the prostitutes to stay overnight?

Why pay that much, when I can get a styudenka spinner to stay over for a few beers and some squid snacks? :D

So where is MK, and who the heck is Madame Becky?Bez,

Here is another one from my favourite portfolio.

Her name is Sally, and she is in Milton Keynes. Workinig in this place called, Annabella's Escorts.

http://www.Annabellasescorts.com/escort-girl.php? Girlid=170

She is a great British babe and on a par with a lot of the girls in UA.

This is in reply to your question, as why I didn't do anything in Agadir?

Its all here in London and close by. If I want the Moroccan Looks there is Zena, which I posted on below.

Agadir is a bit like Ukraine, you need an apartment to bring in the girls.

I go to Agadir in the winter on an affordable family holiday, not to monger

Oh by the way. Milton Keynes reminds me of an uglier version of Dallas, Texas, but the girls in MK are tops, and from US$ 90 for half hour. Who is to complain.

They all do what it says on their TIN.

Anal, is an extra 40 =US$ 60.

Agadir, from what I heard is 500 Moroccan Dirhams for all night =45.

But, I never go for all nighters anywhere not even in the UA.

Bez Bezarra
10-06-10, 00:58
Sounds pretty good JoJo.

God Save The Madam!

Jojosun
10-06-10, 12:26
Sounds pretty good JoJo.

God Save The Madam!Yes, kidney and Pussy pie, but never a Pie in the sky, like so many scams in EE countries.

Here is a great town with a lot of students (Guildford), one of the most beautiful towns in England.

You like the provinces in UA and Russia, so it's time for you to discover the English country side. Guildford is 1/2 ride on the train from London.

And here is the icing on the cake. You can lick it, taste it and Fuck it, all for about 50=US$ 75.

www.guildfordgold.co.uk

Bez Bezarra
10-07-10, 05:43
Yes, kidney and Pussy pie, but never a Pie in the sky, like so many scams in EE countries.

Here is a great town with a lot of students (Guildford), one of the most beautiful towns in England.

You like the provinces in UA and Russia, so it's time for you to discover the English country side. Guildford is 1/2 ride on the train from London.

And here is the icing on the cake. You can lick it, taste it and Fuck it, all for about 50=US$ 75.

www.guildfordgold.co.ukYes, sure there are scams. I should know.

But you learn your lessons, you don't make the same mistake twice, and you get better at sniffing out when something smells wrong.

I want the real authentic experience, I need to be in the motherland, in the heart of the candy production factory.

I've been busy and have about 10 cuties lined up in each class year from 18 to 23, so that's about 60 dyevs, plus a few more for kicks. Yes, old man Bex has finally loosened up and will actually try to do a girl that's older than 19. Well, maybe. The girls in the 19 class, they are amazing, and I may done with them to move to the 20's.

But that's the nature of the game.

I hope you can convince everyone else to avoid the motherland and stay in Britain, because I really hate to hear anyone speaking bloody English when I'm in an FSU cafe, it defeats the whole purpose of immersing myself in the slavic culture.

Its not for everybody, I know. But I can't live without it. I'm fucking hooked.

And there's no cure.

Ash1001
10-07-10, 23:14
Pretty much everything is beautiful about the UK apart from the girls. Unlike Ukraine - run down, grotty and corrupt - but full of hotties.

Insomniaque
10-07-10, 23:37
Unlike Ukraine - run down, grotty and corrupt - but full of hotties.True, true, true.

I've heard that the only countries to beat Ukraine in this respect are Serbia and Montenegro. A "specialist" of Eastern Europe told me that the ratio of stunners there simply was outrageous. Will definitely have to see for myself.

Although I'm quite happy with Ukraine to date. The chicks compensate for anything that would make you want to run your ass off, it's amazingly well-balanced.

God is so fucking wise.

Jojosun
10-08-10, 17:52
True, true, true.

I've heard that the only countries to beat Ukraine in this respect are Serbia and Montenegro. A "specialist" of Eastern Europe told me that the ratio of stunners there simply was outrageous. Will definitely have to see for myself.

Although I'm quite happy with Ukraine to date. The chicks compensate for anything that would make you want to run your ass off, it's amazingly well-balanced.

God is so fucking wise.The only countries to beat Ukraine or on a par with it, are the Scandnevian countries +iceland. But of course that's strictly eye candy, unless you are in your late teens or early twenties to get hold of 18/24 hotties.

I did the Balkan countries before the break up of the former Yugoslavia and just a couple of years ago. Had a mongering holiday in Belgrade, Serbia, and unless the stunners were away or staying at home, I didn't meet any that stuck in my mind. I did post here.

Montenegro, which is really Serbian in population, but was made to break away, I suspect the stunners there in the summer to be from the Ukraine or wealthy young Russian families with their daughters.

The cheapest and easiest place to monger in the Balkan countries these days is in Bulgaria. But I never come across many stunners there either.

Jojosun
10-08-10, 17:55
Pretty much everything is beautiful about the UK apart from the girls. Unlike Ukraine - run down, grotty and corrupt - but full of hotties.Beauty is in the eyes of the Beerholder after 11pm, a lot of the times.

Jojosun
10-08-10, 18:16
Yes, sure there are scams. I should know.

But you learn your lessons, you don't make the same mistake twice, and you get better at sniffing out when something smells wrong.

I want the real authentic experience, I need to be in the motherland, in the heart of the candy production factory.

I've been busy and have about 10 cuties lined up in each class year from 18 to 23, so that's about 60 dyevs, plus a few more for kicks. Yes, old man Bex has finally loosened up and will actually try to do a girl that's older than 19. Well, maybe. The girls in the 19 class, they are amazing, and I may done with them to move to the 20's.

But that's the nature of the game.

I hope you can convince everyone else to avoid the motherland and stay in Britain, because I really hate to hear anyone speaking bloody English when I'm in an FSU cafe, it defeats the whole purpose of immersing myself in the slavic culture.

Its not for everybody, I know. But I can't live without it. I'm fucking hooked.

And there's no cure.I don't work for the British tourist board to promote SAHH, stay At Home Holidays. But posted the Photos as a guide only, and a benchmark for yours truly, to compare them with what I would encouter on my mongering holidays. Price + Quality there with what's within my reach in the UK.

Anything better or similar but much cheaper, then my pants are down for the short time that I go for.

Hence the lack of action for JOJO during a trip to Sunny Beach, Bulagaria, in the summer. I posted here.

My mongering trips to EE countries including UA, are for a max of a Week, so would rather be immersing myself in the mongering scene. No time for me to be a culture vulture.

I don't even eat the local food there(I try it in Ehtnic London Resaturants). Yes, another fucking weirdo. I know.

Jojosun
10-08-10, 18:20
It takes more than revoking my Senior privileges, to banish me forthwith.

Someone makes an outrageous claim, and backs it up with nothing but air, you can still count on Bez to remind them, that talk is cheap.

So what does it REALLY indicate, that you've been somewhere a few times with nice looking girls, and you did nothing about it?

I will believe ANYONE, not when they buy 2 apartments, but when they stop talking, and start showing us some girls.So why don't you let the Photo do some talking?

Location, availability, price, if she is on the game, etc?

Otherwise what's in it for your fellow mongers?

Juicy Fruit
10-11-10, 19:19
First of all Hello,I just registered upon finding this thread.

I live in Serbia and can tell you the women are incredibly hot, the only snag is they are not easy. Will take a couple of dates at least. As for working girls there aren't that many here compared to the rest of E Europe, if there is then it's quite low profile, big hotels are probably good places.

As for Montenegro, I wouldn't bother it's even harder there, and they're not generally outgoing people.

I have done a bit of travelling round Europe, and my favourite place thus far is Budapest. I love it there, the girls are horny as hell, and the nightlife is wild. Last time I was there, I took a girl's virginity on a train - no kidding. Before that I had a BJ in a night club. For young girls Morrissons pub is fantastic.

Me and my friend were even offered sex if we would buy these two girls a sandwich each!, they weren't too hot, so we declined.

I'm thinking about going to Budapest next weekend, and was also thinking of heading over to Lviv for a couple of days. Anyone been there before?, i'm not that interested in *****s, as I can get it almost anywhere for free usually,but would love to know some cool bars/clubs in Lviv to find some chicks


The only countries to beat Ukraine or on a par with it, are the Scandnevian countries +iceland. But of course that's strictly eye candy, unless you are in your late teens or early twenties to get hold of 18/24 hotties.

I did the Balkan countries before the break up of the former Yugoslavia and just a couple of years ago. Had a mongering holiday in Belgrade, Serbia, and unless the stunners were away or staying at home, I didn't meet any that stuck in my mind. I did post here.

Montenegro, which is really Serbian in population, but was made to break away, I suspect the stunners there in the summer to be from the Ukraine or wealthy young Russian families with their daughters.

The cheapest and easiest place to monger in the Balkan countries these days is in Bulgaria. But I never come across many stunners there either.

Juicy Fruit
10-11-10, 19:32
True, true, true.

I've heard that the only countries to beat Ukraine in this respect are Serbia and Montenegro. A "specialist" of Eastern Europe told me that the ratio of stunners there simply was outrageous. Will definitely have to see for myself.

Although I'm quite happy with Ukraine to date. The chicks compensate for anything that would make you want to run your ass off, it's amazingly well-balanced.

God is so fucking wise.First of all Hello, I just registered upon finding this thread.

I live in Serbia and can tell you the women are incredibly hot, the only snag is they are not easy. Will take a couple of dates at least. As for working girls there aren't that many here compared to the rest of E Europe, if there is then it's quite low profile, big hotels are probably good places.

As for Montenegro, I wouldn't bother it's even harder there, and they're not generally outgoing people.

I have done a bit of travelling round Europe, and my favourite place thus far is Budapest. I love it there, the girls are horny as hell, and the nightlife is wild. Last time I was there, I took a girl's virginity on a train. No kidding. Before that I had a BJ in a night club. For young girls Morrissons pub is fantastic.

Me and my friend were even offered sex if we would buy these two girls a sandwich each!, they weren't too hot, so we declined.

I'm thinking about going to Budapest next weekend, and was also thinking of heading over to Lviv for a couple of days. Anyone been there before?, I'm not that interested in *****s, as I can get it almost anywhere for free usually, but would love to know some cool bars/clubs in Lviv to find some chicks.

Insomniaque
10-11-10, 21:48
First of all Hello, I just registered upon finding this thread.Howdy and welcome! Thanks for sharing your experience. Never been to Hungary, which after your post I will try and fix asap.

Ivanvlad
10-11-10, 23:05
[QUOTE=Juicy Fruit]First of all Hello, I just registered upon finding this thread.

I live in Serbia and can tell you the women are incredibly hot, the only snag is they are not easy. Will take a couple of dates at least. As for working girls there aren't that many here compared to the rest of E Europe, if there is then it's quite low profile, big hotels are probably good places.

Hi Juicy, unfortunately Lviv doesn't seem a good place for mongering, but for the experiences that you have reported in Budapest, I think that you will not have any problem in Lviv to find a good bar or something similar to pick up a girl. Let us know (with details) when you come back how many virgins have you scored. Good luck

Jeankim
10-12-10, 15:22
First of all Hello, I just registered upon finding this thread.

I live in Serbia and can tell you the women are incredibly hot, the only snag is they are not easy. Will take a couple of dates at least. As for working girls there aren't that many here compared to the rest of E Europe, if there is then it's quite low profile, big hotels are probably good places.

As for Montenegro, I wouldn't bother it's even harder there, and they're not generally outgoing people.

I have done a bit of travelling round Europe, and my favourite place thus far is Budapest. I love it there, the girls are horny as hell, and the nightlife is wild. Last time I was there, I took a girl's virginity on a train. No kidding. Before that I had a BJ in a night club. For young girls Morrissons pub is fantastic.

Me and my friend were even offered sex if we would buy these two girls a sandwich each!, they weren't too hot, so we declined.

I'm thinking about going to Budapest next weekend, and was also thinking of heading over to Lviv for a couple of days. Anyone been there before?, I'm not that interested in *****s, as I can get it almost anywhere for free usually, but would love to know some cool bars/clubs in Lviv to find some chicks.Yeah. Budapest really cool. And fucked up place. I was walking on the street at mid night and 3 hookers offer me sex. Too many hookers, street girls and yes horny girls Little jealous that you took a virginity of young girl on train. How old is she? And how did you meet her? Curious and Jealous.

Bez Bezarra
10-23-10, 22:44
So why don't you let the Photo do some talking?

1. Location,
2. availability,
3. price, if she is on the game, etc?

Otherwise what's in it for your fellow mongers?God man, get a grip!

What ISN'T in it?

The whole world is waiting, right outside your door!

The world of candy, and sweet gushy stuff!

Location? Anywhere east of the border, that runs run Murmans'k all the way down to Novoroysis'k, but I can suggest you study a little bit of demography and logistics, to narrow your search, and give yourself a better choice of locations.

Availablility? Are you fucking kidding? My phone is ringing off the hook. Ok, kiddies, gather round, the man with the good stuff is here. I'll school you, since far too many of you wanna be's are clearly left wanting for an adequate supply of good sense.

Once you establish some roots, which doesn't require more than a trip or two, you can keep going back to your old SIM cards, and believe it or not, of you treat these ladies very well, they usually remember you, and either they come for more, or they send you their friends. And guess what? Sometimes their friends have friends.

You see, many of them, are up for meeting someone, if one of their friends puts in a good word for you!!!!!

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS!

You add that in to the freebie/p4p/sponsorette/ mix, and it sort of grows and multiplies, until you turn down almost as much as you accept.

No, its not really THAT simple. Like any chemical reaction, to get it exponential, you need just the right catalyst. Sorry now, secret ingredients have to be cracked, not given away. And believe me, if you'd read enough posts over the years, and I don't mean mine, you would already know, and have passed me in the dust long ago.

Price? You don't have to be a genius to know that anyone can go for cheap trash or climb up the quality scale. There's always a few that try to take advantage, when you deal with nealry 2 dozen new acquaintances, but you'd be surprised at the level of honesty overall. Best plan? Be generous. You make more money than you need, to live well. Spread it around, and boost the local economy, do your damn part. Stop whining about price.

There's always a few bargains, and there's also times, when you need to show appreciation for getting GFE treatment, without ever asking. And to be honest, that's what's impressed me more this time, than almost other time I can even remember.

Besides the point, that today was my freebie's birthday. Talk about dumb luck! The LAST thing I was thinking, was to plan my dates in country, along with her birthday. She didn't even tell me when it was, until I was already here. That it just happened to be 13 days after I got here, meant that we'd wait until tonight, which was just fine. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

And that's what's in it. A little of this, and a little of that. Go where you wanna go, where nearly everything's available, and pay what you wanna pay. The point is, go!

Its called, Skoro Govorka. You got yechels, greykas, rukus, and vreykus, but when you zauruku your last greyka, you better tsap!

Ash1001
10-26-10, 22:03
Anyone planning on visiting this place? Or live there?

DoctorOral
11-02-10, 14:11
I never was in both places.

Any good story to tell, mainly on Simferopol in regards to:

Strip clubs (with possible extra services)

Saunas / erotic massage places

Good freebie discos (which probably not in winter?)

I go tomorrow but only spend some dayes.

DoctorOral
11-20-10, 11:44
Ok I answer myself. After visit

Strip clubs 911, dos pilas, cabaret. All SHIT

Erotic massage.complicated since no english. But ok

http://sacura-x.narod.ru Incall only. Good service

Fiesta 050 666 8872 Nice, speak english, heavily bokked!

Overall. Don't go in winter!

Ziggym
12-04-10, 12:34
So Lviv scene is dead I gather? Stopping through there in a few days.

Robert The Great
12-22-10, 12:34
I'm looking for information about Donetsk, Ukraine. Has anyone been there?

Please give detailed information about cheap places to stay and the best cheap.

Places to meet girls. I plan to go there.

Thanks in advance.

Jalle
12-29-10, 04:19
Uzghorod near Slovakian border has some action to be found.

I chatted few taxi drivers and ended up in a sauna-brother about 15km outside of the city. Kinda scary area, but US$ 50 gives you a suck&fuck. Sauna, pool, drinks and many other things are charged as expensive extras, but I was warned by the driver. I ended up paying 50+6 for sex and a large beer. Driver was waiting for me outside after giving some translation help to set the deal.

When it comes to session, I chose the only brunette Olga. She was probably closer to 30, but had the best smile of the line-up. Smile isn't very common human reaction in this part of world. She offered covered BJ followed by mechanical sex. Nothing to remember back home.

There were several good looking blondes available too. For some reason they were much more interested in me when I left the place. I can't remember the name of this place, but I'm sure any driver will get you here.

Jalle
12-29-10, 04:27
Stayed in Bukowina which is an old soviet style hotel 2km out of centre. Some reports suggest this hotel has some WG action in lobby bar. However, I wasn't able to see any girls during my two nights stay. Instead I found some SW action nearby, but they looked very unhealthy so skipped.

This city certainly has potential, but language barrier is a real challenge. It appears that almost everyone speaks only Ukrainean and Russian. In two days I met only one person with decent English skills. Another reason to keep me inside was heavy rain.

Compared to other cities in Ukraine I didn't feel very safe in Chernivtsi. With some Russian basics one would surely have good chance to score.

LifeSavour
01-17-11, 12:53
I'm looking for information about Donetsk, Ukraine. Has anyone been there?

Please give detailed information about cheap places to stay and the best cheap.

Places to meet girls. I plan to go there.

Thanks in advance.I am here now. Send a message.

Is anyone else here? Lets have a beer!

LS

Ziggym
02-18-11, 05:08
I really liked Lviv even though I was there only for a night and didn't venture out much. Some good food and nice areas. I plan to go back if someone can offer something here, or any other cities like it nearer to Kiev if I can figure it out.

Timmy011
03-19-11, 18:56
Nice town & hot girls, very friendly, crappy roads, cheap bars and no strip clubs in town.

Hotels .

Hotel Kiev.crap, cheap, in center 250 uah per room, inside look like Dracula castle with some neon lights (for adventurers) ,

Hotel Magnat.around 400uah per room, nice new little hotel in center with hot girl on reception, good and clean rooms.

Hotel Bukovina. Big soviet stlye hotel. 5 minute walk to center, with some renovated rooms. 420 uah, big room, clean, big bathroom, nice food and restoraunt, casino nearby, nice garden cafe on summer, and the most important. Available girls on demand at reception. I get offer for 4, 5 girls to come in my room to choose, but I passed couse I have girl coming from town. Price 400, 500 uah per hour.

Happy mongering

CityHunter77
04-19-11, 23:51
Anyone have recent experience of Lviv with good reports.

Not finding much on Mamba. Sponsor girls seem to be poor quality compared to Kiev.

What are the best clubs / bars to visit?

Bez Bezarra
04-20-11, 22:27
That's right, I'm back in my old stomping grounds, on Bakulina street, right down Lenina Prospekt from Ploschad Svoboda. Let's meet up at Charlie's Disco on the corner with my Syrian bartender Cyrus the Virus, he'll fix you a mean Ivan the Terrible. That's two shots of vodka, a shot of Tia Maria, half a quaalude, throw in three pearl onions, a shot of concecrated borsht, two matzoh balls, a celery swizel stick, a gram of red Lebanese, a couple drops of wombat blood, some brake fluid, and a half a jigger of Kaopectate for the morning squirts.

A few of those and you'll stop looking for me, ya think?

Now, back to the gushy stuff, god almighty! The days are starting to blur together, which is a good sign considering I'm only in cuntry less than a week, or maybe its lack of sleep or combination of both. Yesterday, I think, I invited Marina, a goofy looking lanky Institute student, but really my kind of dyev, sort of hot, but totally clueless of the fact. And just ready for training, as she explained she's only ever had one boyfriend. Unfortunately, that meant that this will be a work in progress, if even I can ever crack the case. Some espresso at the Armenian cafe, then back to my place to look at photos, but not much progress after that. A guy's got to try, right.

So on to Kristina, who I met last year, and you would think from all her emails sounding so happy and excited that I'm coming back to see her, that she wouldn't have been so blase'. Maybe it was my cooking? Or she had a long workday? I don't know. I'll have to stick to the Dr. Skank Play Book and give her one more try, as this was the second date, and a least I got in a make-out session, but that was it. Maybe she'll open the gates on the thrid date, either that or its quits. Don't want to get fined by Skank for vioalting the rules.

Since I was in danger of going 24 hours without twat, I finally called Natasha, who is a real sex maniac that I spent several nights with last year. She's the Melanie Griffith look-alike, the 20 year-old Melanie version. She'd been waiting for me to show up, and was over here in 20 minutes. No longer asking for sponsorship, now she's begging for sperm. If ever there was a cat in heat, this girl has gone baby-crazy. She's very cute, and hot to boot, but knocking her up seems like a recipe for disaster.

I had to kick her out the door at 11:00 this morning, when I remembered that Lena #2 was bringing over Katya Wednesday, (not to be confused with Katya Monday, that super-mamachka Dasha brought over from her class at the Pedagogical Institute). That's a teacher's training college by the way, not a pervert asylum! Anyway, Lena #2 had promised to introduce me to her Jessica Alba look-alike padruga today, and god bless her, it was true. Dirty blond and very tan, with a truly amazing body and almost no mileage. That's two new 10's in 3 days, and both named Katya.

Its about 1 in the morning, Tiny Lera is just falling asleep after I plucked her virgin cherry back door. She cried so I gave her half a Percocet I had left over from when my sadistic dentist yanked out one of my choppers. Now she's buzzed and already forgot that I nearly split her in half, but for sure she'll be walking funny tomorrow.

I sure am glad I didn't waste $180 at Costco on that cool new Fuji, and that I went cheap last year when I got a new Sony Handycam without the HD and extra memory, because the camera is sitting in the bedroom collecting dust. Nobody will let me take their picture! Not even fully clothed with hat and coat! The only option may be to try going out to the boonies, but I don't know. Pity. Nothing yet to share with you guys. Let's hope I can meet a true extrovert, and soon.

Bez Bezarra
04-22-11, 07:45
Well, another day, another ruble.

Two dark haired dyevs yesterday supplied by new mamachka want to-be Ileana. Neither will top the list on this trip, as far as beauty, but the first one, Katya, who I have to call either Katya #3 or chitvyerk Katay, another sweet institute styudenka that could really suck her way into history, with a fine set of blow job lips that exceeded my expectations, and provided the afternoon's entertainment. She had kind of an Elvira Mistress of the Dark look about her, very long thick jet black hair and brown eyes, come to find that her grandparents came from way down south in the Kavkaz regions. Tiny nipples and a bubble butt, was able to light her up and had her squirming under the gun.

The evening brought Alyona, another dark haired beauty with a hefty set of jugs, very soft silky black hair, but a bit of an attitude. Decided to cut her time short, as I was getting pretty exhausted, and went straight for the anal option. Have to say this was worth the extra rubles, though I won't repeat with the attitude.

Setting up now for the weekend, lunch and dinner for something new on the menu, sounds promising. Still no pics, I'm afraid. Actually overheard two americans gavariting Angliski yesterday, while strolling down the main drag, a bad sign I suppose. Some tall white guy in a gray business suit with an american woman, talking about politics, how depressing is that? He stood out in the crowd. I was almost tempted to ask if he knew any sports bars here with NBA TV on satellite, so I could watch my big 3 crush the Sixers on Sunday, but I think I will keep looking for that on my own. I did not come all this way to speak to some boring ex-pat with his lady in tow. No offense to you ISG types, this geek was no monger.

Paka.

Juicyfruit
04-23-11, 19:52
Hi guys,

Sorry been away for a while. Regarding my Budapest train antics, the girl was 16 (LEGAL!) , and I couldn't say no because she was smoking hot.

I was in Lviv in December and I really liked the place. I'm not that much into paying for chicks (unless it's like $50 hehe) , but I did really well in Lviv. Was staying at a hostel called Kosmonaut, cheap place met some other guys and we hung out together and had fun.

Went to Split Club, that was really good we paid like 5 euro to get in and beers were only about 3 euros. The guys with me paid for lapdances but I was getting lots of attention for free, I remember licking one of the stripper's legs haha.

Met some girl with fantastic hooters, ended up getting a private room. I think she sniffs out foreigners in Lviv, she's keen to leave the Ukraine, can't blame her. Met another girl while we were having Pizza she was just staring at me alot, so I went over and talked to her, next day I was banging her.

Went to Millenium club but when I was there it was dead and I ended up playing pool with two smashed Ukranian dudes. Drinks were incredibly cheap, I had a double vodka for 1euro.

Also went to Metro club, that was fun, very young girls, most of them are in their teens (I wasn't complaining and I'm 34) hehe. Ended up scoring this blonde, but didn't shag her in the end.

And I will be moving to Lviiv in about two weeks time, I really like the city, loads of pretty students, it's dirt cheap. I work online, so can always move around if I don't like it.

Also I'm going to Kazantip in August, I am SO there. I will be in my element, these things have to be done before you get too old.

I will do some more research when I'm there, if anyone is coming PM me maybe I can arrange something in advance, we can hang out and have some fun, and if you're not a psycho you could probably use my place for banging.

Juicyfruit
04-23-11, 21:13
Anyone have recent experience of Lviv with good reports.

Not finding much on Mamba. Sponsor girls seem to be poor quality compared to Kiev.

What are the best clubs / bars to visit? I personally love Lviv, but then again it's the only place in Ukraine I've been. I was there for a week and shagged two girls, one really hot, and snogged a few others.

Split club is pretty cool, only 5 euro to get in and drinks about 3 euro after that. I didn't need to pay for a lapdance, my friends did, and I was getting them for free, I ended up licking this girl's leg for a while.

Club Metro is full of kids, but I kissed one nice girl in there.

I'm moving to Lviv in about two weeks time! Haha, send me a message if any of you guys are in town!

Stravinsky
04-23-11, 21:50
Gotcha Bez,

East to Stavropol, north to Volgograd, back to Taganrog, over to Donetsk and then Zaporozhye. From there it's straight south to Simferopol and keep going past Sevastopol to Chornoye Morye. Across Chornoye Morye to Sochi and then back to Vladikavkaz. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

BTW - It's spelled Poka, not Paka. You don't want to look like just another American sex tourist, do you?

Bez Bezarra
04-24-11, 08:34
Gotcha Bez,

East to north, back over and then from there it's straight south and keep going past and across and then back to narrow it down.

It's spelled Poka. You don't want to look like an American, do you? Brighter than the sun shines stronger, the wind blows in the window, with a scream rushing up to heaven.

That's the message that Luba sent me this morning for Easter Sunday. Met my freebie yesterday for a long walk and a little tea on the sofa. She's my very first Russian stutterer. Very pretty, but a little taller and larger frame than my tastes run, nice legs though. What are you going to do, eh? A freebie is a freebie, they can't all be 45 kilo zubachistka kukla's, like the dozens of super smoking hot ones I watched running around last night in the klub.

So I really gave it my best shot, and came up with an Easter goose egg! I tried with the billiard room manager, a gal that spoke very good English, and with some kazakh looking Okron bouncer / doorman / security guy, and my crazy offers of any amount of money, moderate to infinite, all came up unsuccessfully. Maybe that's why I always say, that nightclubs have never gotten me anywhere. You would think that at least some of the cuties in this place, that was pretty packed last night, would not pass up $300, $400, or even $500 for a few hours. You would think the dumb bouncer, or the bar manager, would try a little harder, than just giving me the name of another club, with $200 comission on the line that I was willing to gift, for some help getting hooked up. But all to no avail. Four hours, I hung in there, kept telling myslef, don't give up, don't quit.

Am I sounding like a stupid gringo yet? That's rhetorical, okay, no need to answer. How did they explain it to me, oh yeah, well its the Russian mentality. Oh please, don't try that one on me. If my game wasn't so lame, I'm convinced that some of those dolls would be thrilled to have a big wad of cash to go on a shopping spree at the mall for some more tight revealing outfits that they love to prance around in. I guess that's why Jackson gave us the Other Areas thread, cause some of us are better than others, in certain areas, and some of us just aren't.

Poka, paka, pokie-mon, pig in a poke. I don't know Stravinsky, when I listen on the phone, it sure never sounds like they're saying po-ka, it definitely sounds like pa-ka. Spelling? Who writes latin Russian anyway? Only dumb gringos like me.

What's the dilio, on the iPhone instant voice translation App I saw recently on a tv commercial, the one where the young american guy is trying to talk to some old guy on a quiet Italian street, and when the old guy, who speaks no English looks at the kid like, what the hell are you trying to say, the kid just talks into his I-phone, and the phone translates his sentence into spoken Italian, and the kid holds the phone up to the old Italian guys ear, and the language barrier is gone, just like that. Something about, my grandmother came from this village, and the old guy's eyes light up like, oh! That's what you're trying to tell me, sure.

Talk about a fucking game changer, man that's what I need. You're such a pretty girl, but I know you're not one of those bad girls, and that's why I want to get to know you and give you really expensive gifts. Or something like that!

But is that an App that is only capable of running while you're iPhone is online, or can it just be downloaded IN the phone, without only processing through the internet. One thing about the provinces, the internet is fucking shaky at best. And then the last thing I want is an insane roaming bill of mad expensive charges using a USA SIM account in the provinces. Hell, if I just turn my phone on, for one minute, to send one SMS to my driver, that my plane landed, I get a $20 roaming bill when I get home! Maybe it would need an unlimited data and roaming plan, I don't know, that sounds pricey. Or wouldn't you think, that some Russian mobile company would offer something like that, for locals to be able to translate spoken Russian into english? Guess that'll have to wait for my next trip.

Even some program that would translate SMS's would sure help. I've seen some of the girls here with something like that.

Obviously, what I needed last nightwas a girl on the inside, to arrange something within a group a girlfriends. Maybe next time. Oh, by the way, here's a tip. The week BEFORE Easter, the weather sure is still pretty cold, but University and Institute classes are off for the week, for the holiday, which means the cuties have free time on their hands. .

Stravinsky
04-24-11, 20:57
So I really gave it my best shot, and came up with an Easter goose egg! I tried with the billiard room manager, a gal that spoke very good English, and with some kazakh looking Okron bouncer / doorman / security guy, and my crazy offers of any amount of money, moderate to infinite, all came up unsuccessfully.You might be able to buy your way into a nightclub in Manhattan or South Beach, but in Eastern Europe, it will take a little more. The okhraniki are more likely to respond to style and class than they are to money. I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but barefoot-in-Birkenstock's, with that old pair of Levi's and the Knick's tank-top just won't cut it. Take that 200 USD you would have spent on a bribe and update your wardrobe, you'll do a lot better.


Poka, paka, pokie-mon, pig in a poke. I don't know Stravinsky, when I listen on the phone, it sure never sounds like they're saying po-ka, it definitely sounds like pa-ka. Spelling? Who writes latin Russian anyway? Only dumb gringos like me.It's true, it sounds like pah-kah, but it's spelled poka. In Russian, many times the "O" is pronounced as a short A. The trick is, knowing when. Like the old Abbot and Costello routine. . .

But you said "ah"

No, I said "oh"

But I heard you say "ah"

No, I'm telling you I said "oh"


What's the dilio, on the iPhone instant voice translation App I saw recently on a tv commercial, the one where the young american guy is trying to talk to some old guy on a quiet Italian street, and when the old guy, who speaks no English looks at the kid like, what the hell are you trying to say, the kid just talks into his I-phone, and the phone translates his sentence into spoken Italian, and the kid holds the phone up to the old Italian guys ear, and the language barrier is gone, just like that. Something about, my grandmother came from this village, and the old guy's eyes light up like, oh! That's what you're trying to tell me, sure.Actually, no. . . The only thing more difficult to understand than the Russian language is a computerized translation of the Russian language. Easier to just learn the language.


Talk about a fucking game changer, man that's what I need. You're such a pretty girl, but I know you're not one of those bad girls, and that's why I want to get to know you and give you really expensive gifts. Or something like that!OK, have to work on that one. Good idea for a thread though,"Russian pick-up lines" (listening Jackson?)


Oh, by the way, here's a tip. The week BEFORE Easter, the weather sure is still pretty cold, but University and Institute classes are off for the week, for the holiday, which means the cuties have free time on their hands. .You should have gone to church on Saturday, for the blessing of the Kulich. It's quite a sight: all those cute dyevchyonki, bowing reverently before a table of phallic symbols, with the jizzum dripping over them (the kulich that is). I'll give you 3 guesses what's on their mind when they get home, and you'd probably get all three of them right.

But if you didn't make it to Church, here's a traditional Easter greeting for you. . .

Христос воскресе! (Christ is risen)

Воистину воскресе (Truly, he is risen)

Prosal
04-24-11, 22:15
You might be able to buy your way into a nightclub in Manhattan or South Beach, but in Eastern Europe, it will take a little more. The okhraniki are more likely to respond to style and class than they are to money. I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but barefoot-in-Birkenstock's, with that old pair of Levi's and the Knick's tank-top just won't cut it. Take that 200 USD you would have spent on a bribe and update your wardrobe, you'll do a lot better.+1. Style and clothes takes you far in this part of the world, much more than just money. That said, creating a fun atmosphere by paying drinks in club is also mandatory. And you better order the better stuff.

If you go to a late night, face-controlled, high end bar or club in FSU, you will find very good looking women all dressed up with wild partying on their minds, and looking for similarly well-appointed, heavy drinking and generous men with the right "look","witt" and "game" to provide the drinks and company to get the job done. If you can fit in and keep up, is up to you. If not, better stick with prostitutes. You'll be happier that way and save a lot of time and effort.

Bez Bezarra
04-25-11, 06:21
Dude, Birkenstocks and Knick's tank tops, are you tripping on mescaline? Do I look like I just floated ashore on an innertube from Mariel? I have, after all, been over here more than 20 times, okay?

First, I don't and wouldn't ever waste my time trying to buy my way into anything, especially nightclubs in Manhatten or South Beach. To begin with, there's nothing in there for me anyway. I'm an old dog, remember? I don't look it yet, but I'm not a kid anymore.

Second, my problem trying to get into the club here Saturday, was that I was overdressed, not underdressed. I did spend enough on a warddrobe, but this is a very down and dirty club, the biggest one, but absoluetly nothing fancy, loaded with students, a half a block from two big institutes and another big University, right where I source most of my sponsorettes and freebies.

I never saw one guy there over 25, and none of them were nicely dressed. I was. They had names on a list, and that's who they were letting in. Did I try to slip the guy 500 or 1000 rubles to get in, no I didn't. Did I hang out with the bartender in the billiard room, to try to get her to help, yes? Did I hang with the Okron guys inside by the disco entrance for a while, trying to get them to hook me up, yes. My name wasn't on their list, and I was face controlled. I was overdressed, but I only live across the street, so I changed from dressed up to new Lebron James Nike's and Kyiv Dynamo jersey, came back and hung around downstairs in the smoke filled beer soaked the pool room. What was I supposed to do, give up? Quit? No. You always keep trying, you don't let temporary setbacks discourage you.

That's the point you missed. Somebody tries to slow your roll, you push onward. Because there's always light around the next turn.

Yesterday, after Julia wanted to study for exams, and also terribly worried that I knocked her up because her period is late, did not want to come over. Okay. Vika, who was supposed to hook me up with her blond girlfriend, struck out. Back to the drawing board, I found Oksana, who got here in the afternoon. Not a 10 by her looks, as she recently lost 25 kilos, so her boobs are now droopers, but her face is very soft and pretty, her auburn hair and green eyes reminded me of my girlfriend Mary Ann when I was a freshman Gator at Gainesville getting laid during a free Gato Barbieri night concert with the spotlights blazing off his gold baritone saxophone like a supernova, playing Europa, while I was banging Mary Ann in a sleeping bag in the adjacent field behind some trees near Hume Hall.

Oksana, made up for everything. Now at 47 kilos, and other than the weight loss stretched boobs, she had no mileage on her. Soft pale skin, flat tummy, and the softest sweetest pussy I've found this trip so far. Maybe she had been at church the night before, because she was like a cat in severe heat. When I licked her snatch, she went nuts, and squirted me in the eye with juice. Writhing, wriggling and squirming and coming twice. After 20 minutes, I had to get in there, and it was just gushing soaked and contracting. Grabbing my ass and grinding on me like a true nympho.

The lord's son may have risen, but on Easter I gave thanks to the Almighty himself, for having blessed our beloved Motherland putting the fire of passion into the belly of Oksana.

And tomorrow, she's bringing her padruga Masha over.

Reiner Otto
04-25-11, 12:15
It's true, it sounds like pah-kah, but it's spelled poka. In Russian, many times the "O" is pronounced as a short A.

The trick is, knowing when. Hi guy,

it is not a trick or secret. The point is, in the case the written "o" is NOT emphasized when spoken, it is also spoken as an "o". Otherwise it is spoken like an "a".

I got that from my Russian teacher. Not only a very good teacher, but also a woman presented on the first page of anastasiaweb. com in the past. Will not share the contact, sorry :-)

Stravinsky
04-25-11, 16:39
but this is a very down and dirty club, the biggest one, but absoluetly nothing fancy, loaded with students, a half a block from two big institutes and another big University, right where I source most of my sponsorettes and freebies.So. . . What did you say was the name of that club?

Bez Bezarra
04-25-11, 18:12
The name of the club is. OMFUG.

Bez Bezarra
04-25-11, 18:31
The name of the club is. OMFUG

Stravinsky
04-26-11, 06:41
Now you're giving me the CBGBies.

Bez Bezarra
04-27-11, 14:00
Hit major setbacks yesterday, nothing but nothing but wrong, only to hit another jackpot last night with Katya. I lost track of the Katya's, but this is my first McDonalds dyevushka. I always thought that some of the ones working there were really interesting. Of course, some are average, but there's alaways a few that look pretty tight in those uniforms.

Katya was well beyond a 10, more like a 15. Had here agreeing to some modeling too, until later when she got bent out of shape that I splooged on her leg when I tore off the jacket prior to konchat. Can't win them all. In fact, other than the first two superstat Katya's I met right at the start, all the hottest looking ones have an attitutde, and it really blows.

On top of that, today no Oksana, and I think I didn't get her number, so no way to track her down without calling the stupid agency again. Also struck out with Vika's friend, no hook up. One thing seems to be better though. Pratically every one that I meet, now says, oh yes, I have padruga to come over. A while ago, more than half would say no. That's changed. I'm just still waiting for one of them to bring over another superstar. Maybe tomorow.

Well, off to meet another freebie. Life goes on. Don't look back. As the Skank says, you never know.

Juicyfruit
05-08-11, 19:39
I'll be moving to Lviv at the end of the month guys, I will fill you in with all you need to know I hope.

Europe 74
05-12-11, 16:19
Hey Juicy, for a newbie coming for the first time to Lviv, what's the deal? I heard that its filled with students supplementing income with escort services. Your thoughts?

Europe74.


I'll be moving to Lviv at the end of the month guys, I will fill you in with all you need to know I hope.

Timmy011
05-12-11, 17:04
There is a hotel Galicia, not in center, but close to Lviv, where is bar with girls, and you can take them to rooms in the hotel, fair price around 500 grn hour.

I was in area and hear about that, but never have enough time to go and explore by myself.

If you have time guys, go and check it out, and report if you find something interesting.

I think it is south of Lviv, every taxi driver will tell you exact where it is.

Lot of students in town, if you are for freebees, and poor choice for incall services.

Good luck

Misterxxx
05-13-11, 08:57
There is a hotel Galicia, not in center, but close to Lviv, where is bar with girls, and you can take them to rooms in the hotel, fair price around 500 grn hour.

I was in area and hear about that, but never have enough time to go and explore by myself.

If you have time guys, go and check it out, and report if you find something interesting.

I think it is south of Lviv, every taxi driver will tell you exact where it is.

Lot of students in town, if you are for freebees, and poor choice for incall services.

Good luckIt's not a hotel. It's a motel. And more or less outside of Lviv. Directly on the motorway (left and right side). Position in google maps is.

49. 788475, 23. 944970.

Motel Galitsia is a quite big complex with some buildings. One way by taxi (from center / old town) is 70-100 UAH. One way. If you want to find the hookers, just go to the building on the north side of the motorway. It's a normal bar / cafe / restaurant. Some girls sitting there (5-10). I have been there last year. Most of the girls are fat or ugly. Or both. One girl was nice. Price (last year) was 350 for the girl + 100 for the room. One hour. You can use the room for all night. Price might be higher this year. Just ask the waitress (german / english language) for a girl. She will explain you everything.

Juicyfruit
05-31-11, 14:18
Hey Juicy, for a newbie coming for the first time to Lviv, what's the deal? I heard that its filled with students supplementing income with escort services. Your thoughts?

Europe74Sorry for late reply. Well I had a blast last time I was in Lviv, lots of students, pretty easy to get laid. I will be back this coming weekend, I'm in Budapest right now.

Budapest is fun, last time I was here I was outside of a supermarket near Astoria and a girl offered me sex if I would buy her sandwich, I declined as she wasn't so atrractive, good call in the end.

I'm intending to spend a month travelling around the Ukraine, I am mostly after freebies, wish me luck.

Juicyfruit
06-05-11, 17:29
Ok I'm here now, I've set up a few dates via the usual social networking sites. Went to Fashion Club last night, it's a fancy place, cover charge was 100 UAH, and you have to dress smart.

Had a great time though, lots of pretty girls shaking their thing, got a load of phone numbers but unfortunately not the corresponding names.

East Explorer
07-10-11, 10:33
Also I'm going to Kazantip in August, I am SO there. I will be in my element, these things have to be done before you get too old.

I will do some more research when I'm there, if anyone is coming PM me maybe I can arrange something in advance, we can hang out and have some fun, and if you're not a psycho you could probably use my place for banging.Hi JF.

I am thinking about spending one or two weeks in Kazantip. However, I am just wondering if this place is nowadays not overcrowded with western tourists because of advertisement campaigns and no visa requirement anymore for Ukraine. What was your last-year experience?

Thanks

Timmy21
07-12-11, 03:48
Last week in East Ukraine 36 year old Roman Landyk, a member of the city council and whose father is a POR Rada deputy, beat a 20 year old girl. At a cafe late at night, Roman more than likely totally drunk, threw a drink at the 20 yr old victim, she threw a drink back at this ukraine punk, he hit her in the face, pulled her from the table, threw her to the ground, hit her a fews times and left, moments later came back to the cafe and contiued beating her, she suffered a bad concussion, damage to her back and brusing to her face.

Not one guy in this crowded cafe did anything to help this victim, nor did the cafe security, all they did was watch the beating take place, the punk is claiming self defense and saying she hit him first, it was all captured on video, and is now making the rounds on 5 News, Femen is planing a protest, I see these ukraine guys everyday, and most are some of the lazyest, worthless people I've ever seen.

Prosal
07-12-11, 11:20
Last week in East Ukraine 36 year old Roman Landyk, a member of the city council and whose father is a POR Rada deputy, beat a 20 year old girl. At a cafe late at night, Roman more than likely totally drunk, threw a drink at the 20 yr old victim, she threw a drink back at this ukraine punk, he hit her in the face, pulled her from the table, threw her to the ground, hit her a fews times and left, moments later came back to the cafe and contiued beating her, she suffered a bad concussion, damage to her back and brusing to her face.

Not one guy in this crowded cafe did anything to help this victim, nor did the cafe security, all they did was watch the beating take place, the punk is claiming self defense and saying she hit him first, it was all captured on video, and is now making the rounds on 5 News, Femen is planing a protest, I see these ukraine guys everyday, and most are some of the lazyest, worthless people I've ever seen.Found the video on Youtube. Disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m1INQwPF6I

Many FSU guys are brutal assholes. It's a wonder why the girls don't jump on ANY decent-looking and nice foreigner showing up.

AColonizer
07-12-11, 20:06
The Slavic behaviour was already explained in the past and that is the starting point of any discussion about Slavic women.

The explanation is very easy: Slavic women love their men because their men are of the same nature of themselves; men different from Slavic mindset are just objects for their temporary purposes.

You should imagine Slavic women as female wolves in a wolf bunch: despite male wolves are not tenderly animals, female wolves could have a real relationship only with male wolves (shit men) and not, for example, with dogs (gentlemen).

My work colleagues and I often discuss about everyday cases of pairs Italian / Slavic or Slavic / Slavic. Italian man has always to pay for her Slavic woman, but Slavic man "suggests" to pay to her Slavic woman, and if she doesn't agree then he becomes angry. All the rest is just fairytales for silly people.


Found the video on Youtube. Disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m1INQwPF6I

Many FSU guys are brutal assholes. It's a wonder why the girls don't jump on ANY decent-looking and nice foreigner showing up.

Reiner Otto
07-13-11, 15:25
Hi JF.

I am thinking about spending one or two weeks in Kazantip. However, I am just wondering if this place is nowadays not overcrowded with western tourists because of advertisement campaigns and no visa requirement anymore for Ukraine. What was your last-year experience?

ThanksLast year already quite a few foreigners, unfortunately. More than 2 and 3 years ago. Anyway, will go there again.

In case, you want to spend a week or more, be prepared to pay exaggregated price for housing. Unless you are smart and stay in another small village nearby. But then, car is necessary. Last year, I had the impression, besides weekends, not so busy any more. This is reflected in the shorter period last year and this year. So having a car to go to Evpatoria for a change makes sense.

Send me a PM, I will be there with a car, but staying in "Stormovoye", about 5km from Popovka.

You are aware of the fact, that picking up girls in Z is really difficult, because single girls can usually not afford to pay the bills.

East Explorer
07-13-11, 23:44
Last year already quite a few foreigners, unfortunately. More than 2 and 3 years ago. Anyway, will go there again.

In case, you want to spend a week or more, be prepared to pay exaggregated price for housing. Unless you are smart and stay in another small village nearby. But then, car is necessary. Last year, I had the impression, besides weekends, not so busy any more. This is reflected in the shorter period last year and this year. So having a car to go to Evpatoria for a change makes sense.

Send me a PM, I will be there with a car, but staying in "Stormovoye", about 5km from Popovka.

You are aware of the fact, that picking up girls in Z is really difficult, because single girls can usually not afford to pay the bills.Hallo Otto.

For some reason I can not get a membership account, I hope the admin can fix this.

I actually wanted to stay in Popovka where accommodation prices are fine. In Shtormove I just can't find any accommodation online.

I agree that Yevpatoria is a good place to be explored and girls over there may be more "modest" than in Z. Also, if single girls can not afford to pay the Z entry fee, which is quite high in fact, then it makes no sense to spend much time in Z anyway. Unless you are just going for the music, which is not my case.

Reiner Otto
07-14-11, 07:37
I actually wanted to stay in Popovka where accommodation prices are fine. In Shtormove I just can't find any accommodation online.I consider the prices for accomodation in Popovka "outrageous". In Stormovoye, no need for online booking. You can find something "on the spot" just there. However, the best place I know in Stormovoye is here:

http://www.stormovoe.com/#

I was there myself. The web site is realistic.

This year I will be staying in a place very close to this one, but cheaper.

But, again, you should have a car available. To visit both Z and Evpatoria.

Stormovoye has the better chance of meeting modest girls at the beach, because it is a small village, for holidays of Ukrainians and Belorussians, also coming by bus. Because it is a rather cheap place, with good beach, better than Evpatoria. Only nightlife is not so good.

Reiner Otto
07-18-11, 07:42
Hallo Otto.

For some reason I can not get a membership account, I hope the admin can fix this.Cleaned up my mailbox for PM. Last message (s) from you are lost. Please, re-send.

AColonizer
08-08-11, 12:40
So, somebody have talked about Kazantip, Popovka and Eupatoria, and now there are no news about that?

East Explorer
08-09-11, 22:18
So, somebody have talked about Kazantip, Popovka and Eupatoria, and now there are no news about that?Just came back home from Evpatoria where I spent almost 2 weeks with a friend. We also went to the opening party in Kazantip.

Right from the outset, Kasantip is the most miserable place I have seen so far in an FSU country! If you want to have a party among tons and tons of men, then this is the place to be. Already when waiting at the entrance queue for around 2 hours, we realized that girls were almost non-existing. Only men that were speaking Russian, english, turkish, arabic, german, french, italian, spanish etc. To make it short: M:W was around 5:1, no exaggeration!

Kazantip is done! Too many foreign and Russian men who are attracted by the idea that girls will jump at them round the neck. The massive advertisement campaigns outside russia, driven by the organizer's greed of profit, definitely killed this amazing festival. For a one-time entry (valid 24H) , each of us paid 100USD.

Back in 2004, a foreigner speaking barely 10 words of Russian could score every night a different top-notch freebee. Unfortunately the good times are gone forever.

It was a nice trip tough. Evpatoria has some good nightclubs with a young crowd. M:W still not good as usually in FSU countries. Weekends 3:1, on weekdays 2:1 or 1:1 if good luck. Western / turkish men usually only on weekends. There are many good looking girls (and unfortunately also some young decent looking Russian men). Its not easy to score a good looking freebee. To do so, it is definitely important to look decent, to put a lot of effort and to be kind of pushy (the same way as Russian men). Besides, it is imperative to speak some conversational Russian since some of those girls are from deep inside russia. I was lucky with 2 Russian girls. Ukranian girls were kind of spoiled. Belorussian girls kind of shy. Bottom line, there are definitely better places in the FSU area for freebee hunting.

AColonizer
08-13-11, 10:24
Yes, I agree. I have stayed in Popovka for a week and then I have been to another "well-know" holiday resort on the East coast of crimea: now I actually know what is the meaning of the USA word "shithole". Only the center of biggest towns have standards similar to Western europe.


Just came back home from Evpatoria where I spent almost 2 weeks with a friend. We also went to the opening party in Kazantip.

Right from the outset, Kasantip is the most miserable place I have seen so far in an FSU country! If you want to have a party among tons and tons of men, then this is the place to be. Already when waiting at the entrance queue for around 2 hours, we realized that girls were almost non-existing. Only men that were speaking Russian, english, turkish, arabic, german, french, italian, spanish etc. To make it short: M:W was around 5:1, no exaggeration!

Kazantip is done! Too many foreign and Russian men who are attracted by the idea that girls will jump at them round the neck. The massive advertisement campaigns outside russia, driven by the organizer's greed of profit, definitely killed this amazing festival. For a one-time entry (valid 24H) , each of us paid 100USD.

Back in 2004, a foreigner speaking barely 10 words of Russian could score every night a different top-notch freebee. Unfortunately the good times are gone forever.

It was a nice trip tough. Evpatoria has some good nightclubs with a young crowd. M:W still not good as usually in FSU countries. Weekends 3:1, on weekdays 2:1 or 1:1 if good luck. Western / turkish men usually only on weekends. There are many good looking girls (and unfortunately also some young decent looking Russian men). Its not easy to score a good looking freebee. To do so, it is definitely important to look decent, to put a lot of effort and to be kind of pushy (the same way as Russian men). Besides, it is imperative to speak some conversational Russian since some of those girls are from deep inside russia. I was lucky with 2 Russian girls. Ukranian girls were kind of spoiled. Belorussian girls kind of shy. Bottom line, there are definitely better places in the FSU area for freebee hunting.

Fitalic
08-16-11, 00:13
Just came back home from Evpatoria where I spent almost 2 weeks with a friend. We also went to the opening party in Kazantip.

Right from the outset, Kasantip is the most miserable place I have seen so far in an FSU country! If you want to have a party among tons and tons of men, then this is the place to be. Already when waiting at the entrance queue for around 2 hours, we realized that girls were almost non-existing. Only men that were speaking Russian, english, turkish, arabic, german, french, italian, spanish etc. To make it short: M:W was around 5:1, no exaggeration!

Kazantip is done! Too many foreign and Russian men who are attracted by the idea that girls will jump at them round the neck. The massive advertisement campaigns outside russia, driven by the organizer's greed of profit, definitely killed this amazing festival. For a one-time entry (valid 24H) , each of us paid 100USD.

Back in 2004, a foreigner speaking barely 10 words of Russian could score every night a different top-notch freebee. Unfortunately the good times are gone forever.

It was a nice trip tough. Evpatoria has some good nightclubs with a young crowd. M:W still not good as usually in FSU countries. Weekends 3:1, on weekdays 2:1 or 1:1 if good luck. Western / turkish men usually only on weekends. There are many good looking girls (and unfortunately also some young decent looking Russian men). Its not easy to score a good looking freebee. To do so, it is definitely important to look decent, to put a lot of effort and to be kind of pushy (the same way as Russian men). Besides, it is imperative to speak some conversational Russian since some of those girls are from deep inside russia. I was lucky with 2 Russian girls. Ukranian girls were kind of spoiled. Belorussian girls kind of shy. Bottom line, there are definitely better places in the FSU area for freebee hunting.Thanks for report, really looking to go to Kazantip one day.

Latexian2
08-16-11, 04:44
Just came back home from Evpatoria where I spent almost 2 weeks with a friend. We also went to the opening party in Kazantip.

Right from the outset, Kasantip is the most miserable place I have seen so far in an FSU country! If you want to have a party among tons and tons of men, then this is the place to be. Already when waiting at the entrance queue for around 2 hours, we realized that girls were almost non-existing. Only men that were speaking Russian, english, turkish, arabic, german, french, italian, spanish etc. To make it short: M:W was around 5:1, no exaggeration!

Kazantip is done! Too many foreign and Russian men who are attracted by the idea that girls will jump at them round the neck. The massive advertisement campaigns outside russia, driven by the organizer's greed of profit, definitely killed this amazing festival. For a one-time entry (valid 24H) , each of us paid 100USD.

Back in 2004, a foreigner speaking barely 10 words of Russian could score every night a different top-notch freebee. Unfortunately the good times are gone forever.

It was a nice trip tough. Evpatoria has some good nightclubs with a young crowd. M:W still not good as usually in FSU countries. Weekends 3:1, on weekdays 2:1 or 1:1 if good luck. Western / turkish men usually only on weekends. There are many good looking girls (and unfortunately also some young decent looking Russian men). Its not easy to score a good looking freebee. To do so, it is definitely important to look decent, to put a lot of effort and to be kind of pushy (the same way as Russian men). Besides, it is imperative to speak some conversational Russian since some of those girls are from deep inside russia. I was lucky with 2 Russian girls. Ukranian girls were kind of spoiled. Belorussian girls kind of shy. Bottom line, there are definitely better places in the FSU area for freebee hunting.Thanks for this detailed report. This just goes to reaffirm my view that the best places for freebies are university towns like Kharkiv. Nothing like tons of studentkas from smaller towns / villages who have freedom living in the big city but no money. And the time to go is NOT summer, but fall / spring when university is in session.

Sorbonne
08-16-11, 12:51
Thanks for this detailed report. This just goes to reaffirm my view that the best places for freebies are university towns like Kharkiv. Nothing like tons of studentkas from smaller towns / villages who have freedom living in the big city but no money. And the time to go is NOT summer, but fall / spring when university is in session.

So where does Kiev fit in your view?

If one goes to Kharkiv, is there also a P4P scene in case freebies aren't available?

Sponsor74
08-16-11, 18:12
So where does Kiev fit in your view?

If one goes to Kharkiv, is there also a P4P scene in case freebies aren't available?This my goal too and I was in Kharkiv but maybe was the wrong time or no experiences in this city. Could you give more details of the girls in Kharkiv? Places and prices? Maybe I will travel there again instead of Kiev where the prices are getting crazy

AColonizer
08-19-11, 19:47
The first rule is: the monger should be very skillful, because the golden age in Eastern Europe is over for 10 years! Otherwise just a waste of thousands dollars, for what? For a pussy? No wonder if Westerners find astute women also from villages.


Thanks for this detailed report. This just goes to reaffirm my view that the best places for freebies are university towns like Kharkiv. Nothing like tons of studentkas from smaller towns / villages who have freedom living in the big city but no money. And the time to go is NOT summer, but fall / spring when university is in session.

Prosal
09-07-11, 12:54
It was a nice trip tough. Evpatoria has some good nightclubs with a young crowd. M:W still not good as usually in FSU countries. Weekends 3:1, on weekdays 2:1 or 1:1 if good luck. Western / turkish men usually only on weekends. There are many good looking girls (and unfortunately also some young decent looking Russian men). Its not easy to score a good looking freebee. To do so, it is definitely important to look decent, to put a lot of effort and to be kind of pushy (the same way as Russian men). Besides, it is imperative to speak some conversational Russian since some of those girls are from deep inside russia. I was lucky with 2 Russian girls. Ukranian girls were kind of spoiled. Belorussian girls kind of shy. Bottom line, there are definitely better places in the FSU area for freebee hunting.Your best bet in Krimea is sex-hungry Russian MILFs.

Prosal
09-07-11, 12:59
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It was a nice trip tough. Evpatoria has some good nightclubs with a young crowd. M:W still not good as usually in FSU countries. Weekends 3:1, on weekdays 2:1 or 1:1 if good luck. Western / turkish men usually only on weekends. There are many good looking girls (and unfortunately also some young decent looking Russian men). Its not easy to score a good looking freebee. To do so, it is definitely important to look decent, to put a lot of effort and to be kind of pushy (the same way as Russian men). Besides, it is imperative to speak some conversational Russian since some of those girls are from deep inside russia. I was lucky with 2 Russian girls. Ukranian girls were kind of spoiled. Belorussian girls kind of shy. Bottom line, there are definitely better places in the FSU area for freebee hunting.Your best bet in Krimea is sex-hungry Russian MILFs.

Hecker
09-07-11, 22:33
I was in August in Koktebel with an ukrainian chick. However what I saw there exceeded my expectations. All girls looked like top models in the 8-9 category there was not one single ugly girl. I have never seen such a thing in FSU I attribute the high level to the fact that all women with bfs to pay for their vaccations had stunning appearance and the ones who were with female friends probably got sponsored in the winter to collect money for vaccations so they were also very high level. It is possible to pick up nude girls there. Generally they do not respond but a 5-10% respond. However I do not advise visiting the plqce without a fixed gf because as vaccation place is officially a sh1thole only by euphemism it can be called resort apart from the nature (terrible sea with high waves, cold, ridiculous beach with small rocks, awful food etc). As for prices it is quite good.

Prosal
09-08-11, 08:49
place is officially a sh1thole only by euphemism it can be called resort apart from the nature (terrible sea with high waves, cold, ridiculous beach with small rocks, awful food etc). As for prices it is quite good.Sudak is more enjoyable than Koktebel.

AColonizer
09-09-11, 20:25
I have stayed in Koktebel and I saw a different scene. Maybe I was busy with my girlfriend, but I didn't see a lot of "top models". And yes, that place is annoying.


I was in August in Koktebel with an ukrainian chick. However what I saw there exceeded my expectations. All girls looked like top models in the 8-9 category there was not one single ugly girl. I have never seen such a thing in FSU I attribute the high level to the fact that all women with bfs to pay for their vaccations had stunning appearance and the ones who were with female friends probably got sponsored in the winter to collect money for vaccations so they were also very high level. It is possible to pick up nude girls there. Generally they do not respond but a 5-10% respond. However I do not advise visiting the plqce without a fixed gf because as vaccation place is officially a sh1thole only by euphemism it can be called resort apart from the nature (terrible sea with high waves, cold, ridiculous beach with small rocks, awful food etc). As for prices it is quite good.

Itsgforme
10-21-11, 01:27
Hello All. I'm heading to Lviv in a few weeks to spend two weeks there and would dearly love some company. My past trips to the Ukraine have been hit (Kiev, fun indy in my hotel bar) and miss (Kharkiv, absolutely no action I could find. Failed to connect with the "studentski" action).

I would dearly love pointers / advice / information that would make my stay in Lviv more, um, welcoming.

Thank you in advance!

Latexian2
11-01-11, 00:32
Everyone thinking of exploiting the provinces should read this:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-benefits-of-living-in-second-tier-international-cities

It jives with my experiences in the provinces in Ukraine. If you have time to invest you can reap amazing rewards. You don't even need a month or more, just a commitment to visit the same spot a few times a year. Having traveled to many small towns in Ukraine / Russia / Belarus I am going to start this route by staying in a town for two weeks that I had been to in March (with few results, but many numbers / acquaintances).

I'll report back in January.

Prosal
11-01-11, 10:37
Smaller cities.This might help:

http://www.citypopulation.de/Ukraine-Cities.html

Borderland
11-01-11, 22:37
Everyone thinking of exploiting the provinces should read this:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-benefits-of-living-in-second-tier-international-cities

It jives with my experiences in the provinces in Ukraine. If you have time to invest you can reap amazing rewards. You don't even need a month or more, just a commitment to visit the same spot a few times a year. Having traveled to many small towns in Ukraine / Russia / Belarus I am going to start this route by staying in a town for two weeks that I had been to in March (with few results, but many numbers / acquaintances).

I'll report back in January.Interesting article. So it seems the idea of searching for a provincial Arcadia is not just restricted to us FSU guys.

I found your post to Prosal in the Russia forum but thought it would be great to have it over here so I've taken the liberty of re-posting it.

Latexian2's post about provincial Ukraine (origional can be found in the 'Russia. Other Areas' thread) :

I just saw your post Prosal. There is not much night life during the week in Samara, but during the summer the embankment is good at least until 1:00am or so. That one club, Metelitsa, has 3 floors but during the week at least the first floor is always okay (at least 20-30 girls will be there). This info is from July.

If you are at all concerned with cost I would strongly, strongly urge you to go to Ukraine instead. There are still untapped smaller cities in Ukraine where foreigners have just as much of a bonus as in provincial Russia. In fact I would say more so, since you don't see as much anti-Americanism (if you're American).

For example, the town of Romny in Sumy oblast (pop. 50, 000) where I spent a few nights has only one club, but it's open 7 nights a week and is dirt cheap. I showed up every night and one night hosted a whole table of girls celebrating a birth day, the total bill was something like $70 (for champagne, chocolate, food, cocktails, etc. Etc.). A hotel room there was $12 a night for a luks room (standard room was $7 / night. And this was in 2009.

By comparison, in a small town of 50, 000 people in Russia where I spent two nights in 2010 I had a hotel room for $30 a night and it was absolutely terrible. I mean unbelievably bad. There was only one toilet in the entire hotel and it was in one of the rooms, so you had to knock and ask permission of that guest to use the toilet.

Or compare train prices. A kupe ticket from Moscow to Samara is about 4, 000 rubles ($120) for a 14 hour ride, while kupe from Kiev to Lviv is $20 (for a 10 hour ride). Beer in Samara is about 100 rubles at clubs ($3. 50) but only 6 hrivnya in provincial Ukrainian clubs ($0. 80). Hotels are correspondingly cheaper. Another example, the tram or bus in Samara is 15 rubles a ride ($0. 50) but in Kiev the metro is only $0. 25 (and in the provinces the buses are a lot less than that).

I spent a night out in a small Ukrainian town recently trying to find a good club (on a Friday). I took 4 taxis around the town, had 5-6 beers, a pack of cigarettes, and payed entrance at one of the clubs, and all of that was under $15 (which is what entrace costs at some clubs in Samara).

And Ukraine has some other perks that are just a hassle in Russia, for example there is no registration in Ukraine (which can be a pain if you are renting a private flat in Russia). Also in Russia, to buy a local SIM card you need local registration, so you might have to wait a few days after arriving to be able to call girls at all. In Ukraine it's just $5 cash for a SIM card no questions asked. And of course for EU citizens and Americans you don't even need a visa, which is a huge plus.

I think the main thing is to avoid the places in Ukraine that are just overloaded with mongers (Kiev and Odessa in particular). Western Ukraine also seems to not be as good in terms of girls, I think mainly because their attitude is more standoffish and they dress more modestly as well. But there are lots of Eastern Ukrainian cities where most people are Russian-speaking and their incomes are 1/3 of what people are making in Russia. I was just in Ukraine and met a group of girls working at the local shopping mall in a smaller city, and they all made less than $120 a month for 6 days a week working. In provincial Russia they would be making at least $400 a month.

But you could pick some unvisited cities. Have you heard of Priluky? What about Kramatorsk? Shostka?

If I had two months and could go anywhere in the FSU, I'd pick a small Ukrainian city like that where you could live like a king on $1000 / month, and for another $1000 a month you could probably sponsor 3-4 girls.

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CallSign Papa
11-08-11, 20:49
Hi all.

If anyone has some apartment rental contacts in Rovno I would be greatly indebted if they were provided. Visiting for two or three days next week and the apartments I can find online do not fill me with a warm fuzzy feeling.

Happy to swap contacts in exchange for girls in Kiev.

Happy hunting.

CSP

Prosal
11-12-11, 15:02
If I had two months and could go anywhere in the FSU, I'd pick a small Ukrainian city like that where you could live like a king on $1000 / month, and for another $1000 a month you could probably sponsor 3-4 girls.BTW. Dunno. I am very tempted to spend next spring an extended period in say Poltava, Maruipol or Zhytomir (Dnipro, Lviv or Harkov are off-list because of the fucking Euro Cup and all the morons that it will bring) , but I'm a bit afraid that even in those medium sized cities of +- 400 000, you very much stand out as THE foreigner in town (especially if you're every day out on the town) and that all your actions are public knowledge the next day.

Would be interested to know your and Latexian thoughts on this matter.

Kiev Freak
11-12-11, 15:30
Hi all,

I will be in Donetsk between 25-29 November. I need your recommendations about good agencies and quality escort girls. Where should I go in donetsk?

Thanks in advance

CallSign Papa
12-17-11, 17:45
Not much in this section about the pretty little city of Rovno. About a two hour drive from Lvov (and a roadwork laden 5 hours from Kiev), Rovno is definitely worth a visit if you like to stretch your proverbial wings beyond the well trod confines of Kiev.

During my 10 days working in Ukraine (mostly Kiev) I decided to take up an offer to visit a ukrainian buddy I had met a few times in Kiev (who had since returned to his hometown). He promised that Rovno had just enough nightlife to make the journey worthwhile and he wasn't wrong.

First things first, I met one person in Rovno who could speak conversational english. Some knew a few words but the main language in Rovno is Ukrainian, although everybody speaks Russian and I can just about get by with that (but, learning the basics in Ukrainian goes a LONG way).

So now the interesting stuff. Hotels, there are two pretty good hotels in the center, I stayed in the Ukraina Hotel overlooking the main city theatre. A suite set me back about $200 a night but I was treating myself. Lovely view, beautiful and elegant hotel. Hotel Mir just up the road had nice suites as well, but was slightly cheaper but didn't have an irish bar attached to it. I especially liked the Ukraina because the entrance went straight to the lift and was blind to the reception desk. Handy later on that.

During the day there's not that much to do in Rovno in Winter. Restaurants and chilly walks are about your only options if you aren't already ensconced with a girl. But at night Rovno definitely comes alive. First night I ended up at Laguna bar. A deceptively big club, it was (and I mean this literally) full of hot, young ladies with a ratio of about 5 girls to each guy. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. Then I ordered a round of drinks (whiskys and beer for 4) and I KNEW I was in heaven. Rovno does not suffer from Kiev's over inflation when it comes to alcohol and food.

Great atmosphere in the bar, and the quality of young ladies was superb. I was dragged out of that club to go somewhere else but trust me, I was fighting to stay! The next bar (can't remember the name) was less busy but had the same girls to guy ratio, so I stopped bitching about wanting to go back to Laguna. The guys I was with were on a mission to get hammered but I was keen to try my luck on the non-P2P scene.

The God of "giving a guy a break" must have been smiling down on me on the Friday night because the first girl I started talking to, a pretty dark haired girl called Tatyana eventually ended up coming to give me her opinion of my suite and have a nightcap. It was lucky I hadn't gone overboard drinking with my guys, because when we left at 2am and got back to the hotel I had to match Tanya shot for shot for an hour.

We eventually ended up in bed, and stayed there until about 5pm the next day. This was my first real taste of ukrainian girls "from the sticks" and wow, what an introduction. I would have been happy to stay there all day but I was due to meet my drinking buddies and against my better judgement decided to honour that committment. I took Tanya's number and promised to call her later that night to see where she'd end up.

Lucky for me, we all met in a bar right next to the hotel (Crocodile?) , but after about 8pm it turned into more of a club, got really busy and started pumping out some decent tunes. I'd decided that Saturday night was going to be the P4P night. I'd met some girls on Mamba and prearranged meeting (as is always the case, to be effective I'd made plans with 5 P4P girl, in case plans fell through, which they did!). Worth noting that most of the girls didn't mention "intim za denghi" initially and only brought it up after we'd exchanged 20 or so messages.

The one girl who was reliable (Oxsana) messaged to say we could meet after midnight. With that arranged I proceeded to walk the fine line of drinking with ukrainian guys without getting totally wasted on shots. Ukrainians can drink, especially shots. So by the time I remembered my meeting with Oxsana it was already 1am. I met her in the irish bar also next to the hotel and we had a drink and got to know each other. She was 25 (she said 21, but later recanted) , mid height, reddy blonde hair, surprisingly beautiful face (the one occasion I've experienced where a girl was prettier than her photos). She spoke no English but we seemed to be conversing ok. We'd agreed 600 for 3 hours, more if she stayed all night.

In the room (security again absent at the hotel lobby) she relaxed with a whisky or two and then invited me to the shower. It was just what I needed, reinvigorated me and I was ready to go. We hadn't really discussed what she would and wouldn't do beforehand, and I think if we hadn't got on so well, then maybe she wouldn't have give OWO, but she did and it was bloody super. After a skillful application of the raincoat, we bounced around in a jolly manner for half an hour until I was hot and sweaty and ready to collapse. I told her I had trouble finishing with a condom and she whisked it off and then gave me a rather lovely tit / blow job in one combo. Just before the end she moved me on top of her so I came over her chest. And then had me completely shocked when she grabbed my hand and rubbed it all over her. Totally wasn't expected it, but I could see she really loved it.

She ended up staying, insisted in the morning that I come on her face. And I mean INSISTED! Really fun girl, great sense of humour and clear loves fucking and sucking. 9/10 (she smoked).

I was originally going to head back to Kiev at lunchtime, but Tatyana called me and asked why I hadn't called the night before. I said I'd gotten too drunk and had gone back and passed out. She invited me to lunch and after confirming that I could have a later checkout, I gladly accepted, we went to a Georgian restaurant near the centre. Gorgeous food, great company. She came back to the hotel to help me pack and predictably we ended up half naked on the sofa, and then the dining room table, where I had desert. Eventually she was insisting that I fuck her, but I didn't have any condoms left. So, unlike our first night together, I went in au natural. Probably stupid, but an unbelievable send off.

So overall, if you have the opportunity to visit Rovno, and can speak a little Russian or ukrainian, I'd heartily recommend it. The people are very friendly. I was a little wary being in clubs as I was clearly the only foreigner around that night, but the vibe was very relaxed and friendly. You can easily get an apartment or a hotel for $60 a night, the beer is cheap, so is the food. The girls are pretty and friendly. What more do you need?

Member #4274
12-17-11, 21:11
Not much in this section about the pretty little city of Rovno. About a two hour drive from Lvov (and a roadwork laden 5 hours from Kiev) , Rovno is definitely worth a visit if you like to stretch your proverbial wings beyond the well trod confines of Kiev.

During my 10 days working in Ukraine (mostly Kiev) I decided to take up an offer to visit a ukrainian buddy I had met a few times in Kiev (who had since returned to his hometown). He promised that Rovno had just enough nightlife to make the journey worthwhile and he wasn't wrong.

First things first, I met one person in Rovno who could speak conversational english. Some knew a few words but the main language in Rovno is Ukrainian, although everybody speaks Russian and I can just about get by with that (but, learning the basics in Ukrainian goes a LONG way).

So now the interesting stuff. Hotels, there are two pretty good hotels in the center, I stayed in the Ukraina Hotel overlooking the main city theatre. A suite set me back about $200 a night but I was treating myself. Lovely view, beautiful and elegant hotel. Hotel Mir just up the road had nice suites as well, but was slightly cheaper but didn't have an irish bar attached to it. I especially liked the Ukraina because the entrance went straight to the lift and was blind to the reception desk. Handy later on that.

During the day there's not that much to do in Rovno in Winter. Restaurants and chilly walks are about your only options if you aren't already ensconced with a girl. But at night Rovno definitely comes alive. First night I ended up at Laguna bar. A deceptively big club, it was (and I mean this literally) full of hot, young ladies with a ratio of about 5 girls to each guy. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. Then I ordered a round of drinks (whiskys and beer for 4) and I KNEW I was in heaven. Rovno does not suffer from Kiev's over inflation when it comes to alcohol and food.

Great atmosphere in the bar, and the quality of young ladies was superb. I was dragged out of that club to go somewhere else but trust me, I was fighting to stay! The next bar (can't remember the name) was less busy but had the same girls to guy ratio, so I stopped bitching about wanting to go back to Laguna. The guys I was with were on a mission to get hammered but I was keen to try my luck on the non-P2P scene.

The God of "giving a guy a break" must have been smiling down on me on the Friday night because the first girl I started talking to, a pretty dark haired girl called Tatyana eventually ended up coming to give me her opinion of my suite and have a nightcap. It was lucky I hadn't gone overboard drinking with my guys, because when we left at 2am and got back to the hotel I had to match Tanya shot for shot for an hour.

We eventually ended up in bed, and stayed there until about 5pm the next day. This was my first real taste of ukrainian girls "from the sticks" and wow, what an introduction. I would have been happy to stay there all day but I was due to meet my drinking buddies and against my better judgement decided to honour that committment. I took Tanya's number and promised to call her later that night to see where she'd end up.

Lucky for me, we all met in a bar right next to the hotel (Crocodile?) , but after about 8pm it turned into more of a club, got really busy and started pumping out some decent tunes. I'd decided that Saturday night was going to be the P4P night. I'd met some girls on Mamba and prearranged meeting (as is always the case, to be effective I'd made plans with 5 P4P girl, in case plans fell through, which they did!). Worth noting that most of the girls didn't mention "intim za denghi" initially and only brought it up after we'd exchanged 20 or so messages.

The one girl who was reliable (Oxsana) messaged to say we could meet after midnight. With that arranged I proceeded to walk the fine line of drinking with ukrainian guys without getting totally wasted on shots. Ukrainians can drink, especially shots. So by the time I remembered my meeting with Oxsana it was already 1am. I met her in the irish bar also next to the hotel and we had a drink and got to know each other. She was 25 (she said 21, but later recanted) , mid height, reddy blonde hair, surprisingly beautiful face (the one occasion I've experienced where a girl was prettier than her photos). She spoke no English but we seemed to be conversing ok. We'd agreed 600 for 3 hours, more if she stayed all night.

In the room (security again absent at the hotel lobby) she relaxed with a whisky or two and then invited me to the shower. It was just what I needed, reinvigorated me and I was ready to go. We hadn't really discussed what she would and wouldn't do beforehand, and I think if we hadn't got on so well, then maybe she wouldn't have give OWO, but she did and it was bloody super. After a skillful application of the raincoat, we bounced around in a jolly manner for half an hour until I was hot and sweaty and ready to collapse. I told her I had trouble finishing with a condom and she whisked it off and then gave me a rather lovely tit / blow job in one combo. Just before the end she moved me on top of her so I came over her chest. And then had me completely shocked when she grabbed my hand and rubbed it all over her. Totally wasn't expected it, but I could see she really loved it.

She ended up staying, insisted in the morning that I come on her face. And I mean INSISTED! Really fun girl, great sense of humour and clear loves fucking and sucking. 9/10 (she smoked).

I was originally going to head back to Kiev at lunchtime, but Tatyana called me and asked why I hadn't called the night before. I said I'd gotten too drunk and had gone back and passed out. She invited me to lunch and after confirming that I could have a later checkout, I gladly accepted, we went to a Georgian restaurant near the centre. Gorgeous food, great company. She came back to the hotel to help me pack and predictably we ended up half naked on the sofa, and then the dining room table, where I had desert. Eventually she was insisting that I fuck her, but I didn't have any condoms left. So, unlike our first night together, I went in au natural. Probably stupid, but an unbelievable send off.

So overall, if you have the opportunity to visit Rovno, and can speak a little Russian or ukrainian, I'd heartily recommend it. The people are very friendly. I was a little wary being in clubs as I was clearly the only foreigner around that night, but the vibe was very relaxed and friendly. You can easily get an apartment or a hotel for $60 a night, the beer is cheap, so is the food. The girls are pretty and friendly. What more do you need?Great post, CS Papa! I really enjoyed it! Oh, if only I spoke a little Russian.

Latexian2
12-17-11, 23:58
(Report on Rovno)Great report CallSign Papa! This is indeed why I love the provinces. The girls are more willing, prices are cheaper, the only thing you don't get is the anonymity a big city provides, also that class of cosmopolitan girls that are used to doing a one night stand every week. But the tradeoff is worth it!

And you're not kidding about the difference in prices.

Bonapart
01-13-12, 00:16
Hello guys,

First of all, if you a foreigner and do not have local friends, forget escort service. If you are good-looking and have some charisma you can pick up some 6/10, 7/10 girls from clubs easily. But it is almost impossible to pick up a 8s and 9s.

Anyway, here is the list:

1) Motel Galicia: The only place of pros in Lviv. 70 UAH from city center by taxi. Please bargain! And ask taxi driver to wait until you finished because motel galicia is located 20min from center and you would not find a taxi at there. At the entrance you will see six or seven girls mostly ugly and fat. 400 UAH for girl. 50 for hotel one hour. The point is, motel galicia is for truck drivers, so don't expect quality!

2) Misto : Located 10 min from center: 50 UAH from city center. Please bargain. There lots of taxi when you exit, so you don't need to as taxi driver to wait. Misto is a striptease club. 100UAH for entrance. 10-15 girls are inside and most of them 8/10. Very good shows and nice people. 250UAH for private dance for 10 minutes. Very very hot, girls become naked except panty. If you want to talk a girl you should buy a drink for 100UAH. Overall misto is good place.

3) Split: Striptease bar. In the city center, totally rip-off.

4) Casanova: Striptease bar. Better than split, worse than misto. More expensive than misto but girls and shows are worse than misto.

Clubs:

FashionClub: Top class! Most beatiful girls are there. A little bit expensive. You can see semi-pros at the bar.

Rafinad: Forget it. Older people are going there.

Chocalade: Good club. Lots of beatiful but easy girls. Reserve a table (100UAH) and invite girls!

MetroClub: teenagers are here. You can see many ugly but easygoing girls in there. Also many arabic, turkish boys!

So, I think Lviv is not suitable place for vacation. But if you plan to stay there more than 2-3 months, you can easily sleep with many beautiful girls.

Irish Lad
01-13-12, 07:45
During the day there's not that much to do in Rovno in Winter. Restaurants and chilly walks are about your only options if you aren't already ensconced with a girl. But at night Rovno definitely comes alive. First night I ended up at Laguna bar. A deceptively big club, it was (and I mean this literally) full of hot, young ladies with a ratio of about 5 girls to each guy. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. Then I ordered a round of drinks (whiskys and beer for 4) and I KNEW I was in heaven. Rovno does not suffer from Kiev's over inflation when it comes to alcohol and food.Nice report. I loved Laguna club. A bit surprised to see it in a provincial city. Super ratio and got asked to dance several times. 4-5 hours from Kiev but an interesting change.

AndyRandy2011
01-13-12, 18:34
In Rivne bored to death, anyone know where I can find some ladies?

Gergiev
01-14-12, 04:08
Hello, guys, I want to mention my trip to Lviv at August 2011.

So, I think Lviv is not suitable place for vacation. But if you plan to stay there more than 2-3 months, you can easily sleep with many beautiful girls.Bonapart, thanks for the comprehensive update.

Some good info there.

Ivanba
01-17-12, 04:51
Thanks for the update. A couple of questions though:

- Did you hook up with any of the semi-pros at Fashion club? And if so, what was the price?

- Are the girls at Misto available for take out? And the price?

Thanks.


Hello, guys, I want to mention my trip to Lviv at August 2011.

First of all, if you a foreigner and do not have local friends, forget escort service. If you are good-looking and have some charisma you can pick up some 6/10, 7/10 girls from clubs easily. But it is almost impossible to pick up a 8s and 9s.

Anyway, here is the list:

1) Motel Galicia: The only place of pros in Lviv. 70 UAH from city center by taxi. Please bargain! And ask taxi driver to wait until you finished because motel galicia is located 20min from center and you would not find a taxi at there. At the entrance you will see six or seven girls mostly ugly and fat. 400 UAH for girl. 50 for hotel one hour. The point is, motel galicia is for truck drivers, so don't expect quality!

2) Misto : Located 10 min from center: 50 UAH from city center. Please bargain. There lots of taxi when you exit, so you don't need to as taxi driver to wait. Misto is a striptease club. 100UAH for entrance. 10-15 girls are inside and most of them 8/10. Very good shows and nice people. 250UAH for private dance for 10 minutes. Very very hot, girls become naked except panty. If you want to talk a girl you should buy a drink for 100UAH. Overall misto is good place.

3) Split: Striptease bar. In the city center, totally rip-off.

4) Casanova: Striptease bar. Better than split, worse than misto. More expensive than misto but girls and shows are worse than misto.

Clubs:

FashionClub: Top class! Most beatiful girls are there. A little bit expensive. You can see semi-pros at the bar.

Rafinad: Forget it. Older people are going there.

Chocalade: Good club. Lots of beatiful but easy girls. Reserve a table (100UAH) and invite girls!

MetroClub: teenagers are here. You can see many ugly but easygoing girls in there. Also many arabic, turkish boys!

So, I think Lviv is not suitable place for vacation. But if you plan to stay there more than 2-3 months, you can easily sleep with many beautiful girls.

ChubbyAmerican
01-18-12, 06:58
Hello, yes. I have noticed this is a site primarily for men. BUT being a Chubby American Woman in Lviv is NOT an easy task as there are far too many beautiful Ukrainian womane here! So I am looking for a way to connect to frequent sex. I have a voracious sexual appetite and few sexual boundaries. I just like sex a lot (need?). If you know how I could connect to something here (including bdsm) I would greatly appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

M.

LifeSavour
01-18-12, 16:41
Hello, yes. I have noticed this is a site primarily for men. BUT being a Chubby American Woman in Lviv is NOT an easy task as there are far too many beautiful Ukrainian womane here! So I am looking for a way to connect to frequent sex. I have a voracious sexual appetite and few sexual boundaries. I just like sex a lot (need?). If you know how I could connect to something here (including bdsm) I would greatly appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

M.By the way, New years in Istanbul I bought a big bottle of Beluga vodka (duty free). Wow! Best tasting stuff ever!

$50 USD and it was worth every drop!

CallSign Papa
01-21-12, 11:48
In Rivne bored to death, anyone know where I can find some ladies?Read my report. Laguna Club and Crocodile are both worth visiting and full of talent. There's always Mamba, but it's challenging there if you don't speak Russian. Maybe a bit of research prior to your trip might have helped.

Bonapart
01-27-12, 00:02
- Did not tried, but be careful to distinguish semi-pros from normal ones.

- The girl I talked at misto said me " Yes, we can go to my home after show for 700 UAH (less than 100usd)". But maybe she faked out, or tried to drink more cocktail when we were talked.

Another tip: The central park in front of opera house, some local girls walk through the road and seek boys after 9pm. Two of them stopped me and ask for cigarette. We talked a little but unfortunately I did not understand the point! They were semi pros, I verified my local friend next day. Regrets.

Also, use couchsurfing! Not for couch, only meet and drink something. They like it.


Thanks for the update. A couple of questions though:

- Did you hook up with any of the semi-pros at Fashion club? And if so, what was the price?

- Are the girls at Misto available for take out? And the price?

Thanks.

Misterxxx
01-27-12, 15:35
- Did not tried, but be careful to distinguish semi-pros from normal ones.

- The girl I talked at misto said me " Yes, we can go to my home after show for 700 UAH (less than 100usd)". But maybe she faked out, or tried to drink more cocktail when we were talked.

Another tip: The central park in front of opera house, some local girls walk through the road and seek boys after 9pm. Two of them stopped me and ask for cigarette. We talked a little but unfortunately I did not understand the point! They were semi pros, I verified my local friend next day. Regrets.

Also, use couchsurfing! Not for couch, only meet and drink something. They like it.About Misto:

1. 95 percent of the Misto girls are no prostitutes. Forget a takeout like you can get it in Kiev. Takeout in Misto means companionship for bowling, restaurant or karaoke. The girls are not allowed to leave the House.

2. Maybe the girl didn't understand you. Because there are just two or three girls (non of them looking very nice) who speak english.

3. She was asking you to wait until the end of the show? After the show the girls take their dresses, waiting for the money. That means 6 or sometimes 7 o'clock in the morning they are leaving the Stripclub.

4. Generally the girls are not allowed to go home with the clients. Misto has no agreement with the police (as the callgirl-agencies in Lviv). If you like a girl and she likes you: No problem. But don't expect to leave the club hand in hand with the girl.

5. Is it possible to have a relationship with girls from Misto? Or to meet them in private? Yes, for sure. But anyway without the knowledge of the Misto bosses. I had a relationship with three Misto girls (during the past two years). NONE of them asking me for money or presents. Many girls are open minded. But be careful: They are looking for a longtime sponsor or someone to get married.

6. Be careful about the "private dance". Don't try to shake your dick. Misto has cameras and microphones in every cabine.

About the "central park":

What kind of central park in front of the opera? There is no central park. There is a fountain and a big avenue. This place is some kind of "meeting place". Girls. Boys. Families. Old. Young. Everybody. It's quite normal for (young) ukrainian girls to stop men on street and to ask for a cigarette. Don't expect it means they are looking for sex.

Timmy21
01-30-12, 05:16
Please be awear that this agency www.donezk-dreams.com Is a total scam, about three months ago I began to receive emails from this agency, I knew it was a scam because the girls are total beauties and the price is cheap, I wanted to play with them a bit, so I sent them an email saying that I wanted to spend a few days with one of their girls, I live just a few hour drive from Donetsk so I can bring the advance payment myself and bring the girl back with me, I received no reply and no more emails, I just read on another site that some guy sent the advance payment to this agency and got scammed, he lost alot of money, don't send any advance payment to any agencies.

AnAphexTwin
03-09-12, 13:17
Hi everyone, new to the forum. I'm in Nikolaev now and I wanted to know some good cafes or nightclubs to meet women. Any suggestions?

Reiner Otto
03-11-12, 09:59
Hi everyone, new to the forum. I'm in Nikolaev now and I wanted to know some good cafes or nightclubs to meet women. Any suggestions?Cafes: In the "City Center", the shopping mall on Pr. Lenina. Either the pizzeria on the ground level, or the few cafes on the highest level;

"Sotka", that is the cafe in the high building at the very beginning of Sovyetskaya, entrance via the 24h shop.

Disco: "Caprica", Friday / Saturday only, my favourite. You should go there already before 23:00, cause girls have free / reduced entrance til then. So you recognize the ones in need of some support quite easily.

There is also "Storm" during the week.

"Amigo" for the more mature crowd, with some live music in the weekend. Fridays / Saturdays, located in cellar of "City Centre".

Horny Monger
03-18-12, 03:16
- Did not tried, but be careful to distinguish semi-pros from normal ones.

- The girl I talked at misto said me " Yes, we can go to my home after show for 700 UAH (less than 100usd)". But maybe she faked out, or tried to drink more cocktail when we were talked.

Another tip: The central park in front of opera house, some local girls walk through the road and seek boys after 9pm. Two of them stopped me and ask for cigarette. We talked a little but unfortunately I did not understand the point! They were semi pros, I verified my local friend next day. Regrets.

Also, use couchsurfing! Not for couch, only meet and drink something. They like it.Lviv is currently a terrible place for P4P, probably one of the worst in Ukraine.

CityHunter77
03-26-12, 00:29
Is Misto worth visiting?

Has anyone managed to slip their number to a Misto girl and met the next day?

Are Fashion, Chocolate and Metroclub still the best clubs to visit at the moment?

Prosal
03-26-12, 17:27
Cafes: In the "City Center", the shopping mall on Pr. Lenina. Either the pizzeria on the ground level, or the few cafes on the highest level;

"Sotka", that is the cafe in the high building at the very beginning of Sovyetskaya, entrance via the 24h shop.

Disco: "Caprica", Friday / Saturday only, my favourite. You should go there already before 23:00, cause girls have free / reduced entrance til then. So you recognize the ones in need of some support quite easily.

There is also "Storm" during the week.

"Amigo" for the more mature crowd, with some live music in the weekend. Fridays / Saturdays, located in cellar of "City Centre".R. O,

How is weekday nightlife in Nik?

Is it slightly happening or almost dead ? ...also, more generally, is it all about clubs or is there some good DJ bars/upscale drinking holes ?

Anyone has been to Zapo by the way ? (same questions about nightlife)

Spasibo.

Misterxxx
03-26-12, 18:39
Is Misto worth visiting?

Has anyone managed to slip their number to a Misto girl and met the next day?

Are Fashion, Chocolate and Metroclub still the best clubs to visit at the moment?Yes and no. I had a short "relationship" with three Misto girls. But like a girlfriend and without real payment.

There are some girls who are willing to meet you for money. But don't expect beautiful models. Misto is no "Rio".

Metro is good if you are young (20 or so). Chocolate has never been a very good club. I was calling my friends in Lviv (a few minutes ago) and they told me it's closed for renovation.

If you are looking for a nice club or disco in center try Fashion or Rafinad. Most people from another country going to Fashion. There you have chance to find some "working" girls.

What time you will be in Lviv? I'm going next weekend. There might be a chance to meet.

CityHunter77
03-27-12, 02:09
Yes and no. I had a short "relationship" with three Misto girls. But like a girlfriend and without real payment.

There are some girls who are willing to meet you for money. But don't expect beautiful models. Misto is no "Rio".

Metro is good if you are young (20 or so). Chocolate has never been a very good club. I was calling my friends in Lviv (a few minutes ago) and they told me it's closed for renovation.

If you are looking for a nice club or disco in center try Fashion or Rafinad. Most people from another country going to Fashion. There you have chance to find some "working" girls.

What time you will be in Lviv? I'm going next weekend. There might be a chance to meet.I'll be in Lviv mid-April.

Previous report by Bonapart said most of the Misto girls were 8/10.

How would you rate them?

Playbill
03-28-12, 14:31
Hello, everybody. After months of living here in Lviv, I have finally found a website that claims to list escorts. There are only a few girls right now, but the prices and the photos seem pretty reasonable. Has anyone used this website? Is it legit?

http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls/lviv/

Thanks in advance!

Bill

Playbill
03-28-12, 23:07
I just spent a LOVELY hour with Kira. She seems to love it as much as I did. I will definitely call her again.

Bill

Misterxxx
03-29-12, 10:45
I'll be in Lviv mid-April.

Previous report by Bonapart said most of the Misto girls were 8/10.

How would you rate them?They have a special light in the stripclub that makes the skin and faces looking more beautyful. Only some girls are 8/10. The rest is 6/10. Maximum. The secret of Bonaparts 8/10 might be alcohol.

Jojosun
03-29-12, 23:58
I just spent a LOVELY hour with Kira. She seems to love it as much as I did. I will definitely call her again.

BillThank you for posting the Link to sexportal, and for taking one for the team.

I knew there must be some kind of Fun In LIVIV, or Livov.

Now I can do LiVIV without flying to Kiev first.

Liviv, is also great for civvy girls. They are not too exposed to sex tourists, like in Kiev.

If this is a new link for Liviv? They must have thought of the idea with Euro12 in Mind.

Playbill
03-30-12, 17:20
Thank you for posting the Link to sexportal, and for taking one for the team.

I knew there must be some kind of Fun In LIVIV, or Livov.

Now I can do LiVIV without flying to Kiev first.

Liviv, is also great for civvy girls. They are not too exposed to sex tourists, like in Kiev.

If this is a new link for Liviv? They must have thought of the idea with Euro12 in Mind.I'm not sure how new it is. But, I've been living here since Aug of last year and checking episodically. I probably checked last about two months ago. I do believe that it has something to do with Euro 2012; but the prices haven't caught up yet. There is nowhere near the choice there is in Kyiv. However, some is better than none. Especially when the "none" is poontang!

Misterxxx
04-02-12, 21:46
I'm not sure how new it is. But, I've been living here since Aug of last year and checking episodically. I probably checked last about two months ago. I do believe that it has something to do with Euro 2012; but the prices haven't caught up yet. There is nowhere near the choice there is in Kyiv. However, some is better than none. Especially when the "none" is poontang!1. Link is already "old". But girls change very often. Sometimes there are 0 girls available, sometimes 10 (or so).

2. Until last year "standard" price for a Lviv prostitute was 300-400 UAH. This year I see many girls with 600 UAH. And don't forget: +100 UAH for the taxi.

3. Try to get "private" telephone number of the working girls and you can get them for 200 UAH / hour (or less).

Playbill
04-03-12, 11:56
1. Link is already "old". But girls change very often. Sometimes there are 0 girls available, sometimes 10 (or so).

2. Until last year "standard" price for a Lviv prostitute was 300-400 UAH. This year I see many girls with 600 UAH. And don't forget: +100 UAH for the taxi.

3. Try to get "private" telephone number of the working girls and you can get them for 200 UAH / hour (or less).Cool. I actually did get Kira's private number. I haven't called her back yet. But, when I do, I'll be sure to learn what the new cost it.

Jojosun
04-03-12, 18:19
Cool. I actually did get Kira's private number. I haven't called her back yet. But, when I do, I'll be sure to learn what the new cost it.If she is independent? , which I doubt, it will be the same.

If not, which is almost 99. 9, it will be her price, minus the Agency's or the Salon's commission.

This is valid anywhere in the world.

But it wouldn't be a good idea to give the girl's name& details on an open forum, just in case her employers are lurking on here as well.

Then she will have a lot of explaining to do, and more so, if she works for some nasty mafia type.

Just, IMHO.

Cheers.

Misterxxx
04-03-12, 22:53
Cool. I actually did get Kira's private number. I haven't called her back yet. But, when I do, I'll be sure to learn what the new cost it.Girls of the biggest agency (in Lviv) told me they get between 180 and 280 UAH for one hour / session. Generally it depends on the place where they have to go (Apartment / Hotel). The rest is the money of the bosses. And all girls have to pay 2. 000 UAH a month to the police. For "protection".

Other sites with girls from Lviv:

http://www.dosug.cz

http://vip-dosug.name

http://vippopki.com.ua

http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls/lviv/

http://lvivintim.com/

Jojosun
04-04-12, 15:27
Girls of the biggest agency (in Lviv) told me they get between 180 and 280 UAH for one hour / session. Generally it depends on the place where they have to go (Apartment / Hotel). The rest is the money of the bosses. And all girls have to pay 2. 000 UAH a month to the police. For "protection".

Other sites with girls from Lviv:

http://www.dosug.cz

http://vip-dosug.name

http://vippopki.com.ua

http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls/lviv/

http://lvivintim.com/.

Thanks for the above links.

Combined with a long weekend in Liviv, makes Liviv a great city break at a cheaper option.

Based on the above links, Liviv is not a mongering desert.

And cheaper to get to From London, than flying to Kiev

Rediska
04-07-12, 21:10
http://relaxportal.biz/

Guys. Anybody used this site? Many photos look good. Some girls even write that it is 100% their photos and on some photos green box with 100% checked which mean they suppose to be fine. Anybody ever used. When you push certain picture under profiles coming podrugki which mean friends and it is most likely salons. But many others don't have it so may be belongs to girls who work on they own.

Misterxxx
04-08-12, 10:03
http://relaxportal.biz/

Guys. Anybody used this site? Many photos look good. Some girls even write that it is 100% their photos and on some photos green box with 100% checked which mean they suppose to be fine. Anybody ever used. When you push certain picture under profiles coming podrugki which mean friends and it is most likely salons. But many others don't have it so may be belongs to girls who work on they own.About Kiev: I see a lot of fakes (for example: pornstars from the US)

Jojosun
04-08-12, 14:27
I just spent a LOVELY hour with Kira. She seems to love it as much as I did. I will definitely call her again.

BillIts only been few posts down, that you posted, http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls, is legit, and Kiera from the site was the girl you enjpyed you hour with. .

Makes you wonder? , whether its even worth posting anything, when some can't even be bothered to read few previous posts.

Looking forward now to my Sabbatical on the other side of the Atlantic.

Jojosun
04-08-12, 14:31
I just spent a LOVELY hour with Kira. She seems to love it as much as I did. I will definitely call her again.

BillIts only been few posts down, that you posted, http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls, is legit, and Kiera from the site was the girl you enjpyed you hour with.

Makes you wonder? , whether its even worth posting anything, when some can't even be bothered to read few previous posts.

Looking forward now to my Sabbatical on the other side of the Atlantic.

Nichyevo
04-13-12, 06:50
Kryvyi Rih.

For several reasons my attention has been turning to the town called Kryvyi Rih.

It keeps coming up in various places, as if someone is trying to tell me something.

Can anyone tell me more interesting things about this interesting place? I'm here to learn.

BrasilSoccer0
04-15-12, 06:55
Borderland,

I am new to this forum. How can I exchange email with you. I live in the states and planning a trip to Moldova. I would definitely like to chat or even meet up in FSU.

AldoSerena2000
05-07-12, 21:25
Its only been few posts down, that you posted,

http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls

, is legit, and Kiera from the site was the girl you enjpyed you hour with.

Makes you wonder? , whether its even worth posting anything, when some can't even be bothered to read few previous posts.

Looking forward now to my Sabbatical on the other side of the Atlantic.I'm new to the forum and I've never been to Ukraine, but I will go there for the European Championships next month. I saw this beautifule site for escorts in the main Ukrainian cities somebody posted below.

http://relaxportal.biz/eng/girls

The girls are really beautiful and from a Western European angle the prices seem to be very reasonable. I just wonder whether anybody has made experiences with girls from this website and I really fear that given the mass of people arriving in June in Ukraine prices will just triple or quadruple and the service quality will suffer.

Vbnm22
06-01-12, 08:56
The girls are really beautiful on that site, but at fact most of them are fake. Read the posts of ukrainian mans (site:ebiteua. Com). I saw list of sites, as for me.

http://lvivintim.com

Is the best of them. Guys, I don't belive that realy nice girl costs 300 UAH. It's only spoof.

Maha Siddha
06-13-12, 07:15
Hi,

I wrote this one girl in Nikolaev in one of the dating site.

When I tell her I will be there next week, she says she would meet me at the Odessa airport.

She asks me for my flight info and I give it to her.

I have already booked my apartment and taxi.

So in this case, what else she or her agency can do to scam me?

Are there any precedence that an agency girl would want to meet a guy at the airport?

Gentleman Travel
06-13-12, 15:19
Hi,

I wrote this one girl in Nikolaev in one of the dating site.

When I tell her I will be there next week, she says she would meet me at the Odessa airport.

She asks me for my flight info and I give it to her.

I have already booked my apartment and taxi.

So in this case, what else she or her agency can do to scam me?

Are there any precedence that an agency girl would want to meet a guy at the airport?Hard to say if it could be a scam.

If she is a "normal" girl, looking to date and potential relationship, then it might simply be a nice gesture to meet you at the airport.

Certainly if a girl was visiting my city I would do that. However, it is some distance between Nikoleav and Odessa, so that is a bit of a stretch.

Normally she would ask for money to travel to another city to meet you, even if she is entirely legitimate.

So it depends on the relationship you have already established with this girl. If you have been chatting for weeks and have developed a rapport, she might well go to the airport to meet you.

But if it is a casual date or a pro, then that would be an unusual investment of her time and expense.

The only real scam I can imagine is if she has her own agenda for a driver and apartment and thinks she can manipulate you.

Jojosun
06-13-12, 20:58
Have you actually exchanged photos with her? It could be that she liked what she saw.

One girl from Donetsk was corresponding with me for few weeks. Then she told me that she can meet me in Donetsk. I responded iits easier for me to meet in KIEV.

(I got advise first on the KIEV thread on the cost of trains to KIEV from Donetsk).

Her reply, she was willing to come down to meet me in Kiev, but she never asked for any money first to cover her expenses.

This was after many pms and emails. She even spoke to a friend of mine who speaks Russian. He told me she asked him what I looked like and whether it was ok for her to meet up with me. .

Quite hnoeslty I thought at the time she was a HOOKER, but (IRISH LAD) did decipher our correspondence and concluded that she wasn't one. I posted on her way back in Oct 2009. (Donetsk Girl and I)

Anyway we did meet up in KIEV. She was on the train for about 12 hours to meet up with me, and yours truly is more than 20 years her senior.

And this was the start of a mutual beneficial relationship, after I relegated her to the Status of a friend with benefits. Ie she hooks me up with her Friends.

In your case if things don't work out as you thought, you can compensate her for the Return journey and her time. Works out cheaper for you by not shagging her, if you.

Don't find her that attractive, when she meets and greets you at the Airport.

You will find out first hand when you meet her.

Belvaros
06-14-12, 21:58
Here for the big Euro '12 game tomorrow, about to head out to the pubs and clubs. Hitting Gung Ubazz (spelling?) , Red Line and maybe the Liverpool. Tried hooking up a lady from open directory but it appears they are all in Kiev. No p4p tonight for me. The seat in my shower in my hotel has me mesmerized like a little kid on Christmas morning.

"Party on Wayne"

Maha Siddha
06-22-12, 06:35
This is my 5-th day here 6-22 in Ukraine Nikolaev.

I am flying back out of Kiev Jul.

I do not mind invest on semi-pro or good pro.

I have not tried any pro or semi-pro.

Please advice? Would Odessa and Kiev be my best bet?

So far my cost efficient ratio here in Ukraine Nikolaev is much worse than the USA at least for freebie. Nikolaev is not easy for newbie at least this time of the year. Jun-22.

Today is my 5-th day here and so far I have not scored anything.

For freebie it seems one must have some Russian language skills at least in Nikolaev.

It is so hot from 10am to 6pm. I feel getting a heat stroke just walking outside.

People do not go out actually after the sun-set. It is very different from where I come from in California.

People here almost speak none to little English.

I did random sampling it is probably 1 out of 10 girls will speak English.

And that 1 girl can be an ugly girl that I would not want to waste my time in the USA.

And I was told that the local boys in the club here can get Jealous and hostile to foreigners.

So I have not visited the Club so far in Nikolaev.

I tried the agency and the Mamba.

The first agency girl seems very into me but her English is not great.

She understands me mostly but sometimes has difficulties express herself.

She is quite attractive and she seems to nice and legit.

The 2nd agency girl I see yesterday is more interesting. She brings her friend as the translator.

However, her friend's English is not good at all. She says she does that is to save me money.

She again seems to very into me and follows me home at the first date. However, she refuses to put out after all at my house. All she wants is playing on my lap-top and watch movie. I already shelled out about 600 grn and she is not that hot and also quite trashy. I got a little upset so I write off my lost and kick her out. I feel kind of bad this morning though.

The Mamba girl is just as bad.

The first girl is hot and speaks English but for what I feel all she wants is someone to practice English and a free meal. And other Mamba girl I have contacted with does not show up or not even answer my SMS.

Newbiez
06-23-12, 12:13
I read on internet this site playboy. Donetsk. Ua / prostitutes-of-donetsk. Html, any one know this is ok, girls? Service? Help me, I never been there.

Zapzarap69
07-14-12, 10:55
Dear All,

I have been a few years ago in Vinnytsia / Vinnitsa, and had some adult fun with my gf and a local girl in a sauna in a kind of a Bunker.

Can anyone report what's going for adult's in Vinnytsia / Vinnitsa?

I will be back there in early August for a week, and I'm looking for Bi Girls or sauna, or Swinger Club.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dan

Searcherguy
07-24-12, 20:42
Are there any street walkers in Lviv? If so, which streets are best to search? I'll be staying near the Sputnik Hotel so hopefully there might be some street walkers in that area. Thanks for any information provided.

Also, any names and phone numbers for known street walkers would be nice!

Gentleman Travel
07-25-12, 17:25
Are there any street walkers in Lviv? If so, which streets are best to search? I'll be staying near the Sputnik Hotel so hopefully there might be some street walkers in that area. Thanks for any information provided.

Also, any names and phone numbers for known street walkers would be nice!Hotel Sputnik is some distance outside the downtown core and isolated.

I doubt there are street walkers around that area, although I was there in winter, so it could be different.

But there is a nightclub complex a short walk from Sputnik, called Misto or Misto 100. There are several venues there, including a strip club.

I did not see any obvious pros at the strip club or any of the other bars. Mostly it was just young people out dancing, but not like some of the Kiev clubs where there is a good female:male ratio and a good prospect for mongers to meet locals. But you may be able to get a stripper for take-out, I did not try, so I do not know.

There were no lobby girls in the Sputnik, but I did see a couple of possible pros in the bar one night, but more as a few girls going out for warm-up drinks before working, they were not sitting around looking for business. I could not approach them as I was with a group that was supposed to be on best behaviour. I talked to the doorman one night about getting a girl and he offered to order one to come by taxi, but I did not want to trust blind luck and have no choice in who I got.

So Lvov was pretty loveless for me!

Searcherguy
07-26-12, 15:49
Thanks for the good information. I'll forget about the Sputnik. I want to be near the Sports Palace at Melnyka Str. 16, but can actually stay anywhere. In particular wherever I might find a street walker to take to my room. If I don't know of anywhere at all to find street walkers, I'll probably just stay at the Dnister Hotel.


Hotel Sputnik is some distance outside the downtown core and isolated.

I doubt there are street walkers around that area, although I was there in winter, so it could be different.

But there is a nightclub complex a short walk from Sputnik, called Misto or Misto 100. There are several venues there, including a strip club.

I did not see any obvious pros at the strip club or any of the other bars. Mostly it was just young people out dancing, but not like some of the Kiev clubs where there is a good female:male ratio and a good prospect for mongers to meet locals. But you may be able to get a stripper for take-out, I did not try, so I do not know.

There were no lobby girls in the Sputnik, but I did see a couple of possible pros in the bar one night, but more as a few girls going out for warm-up drinks before working, they were not sitting around looking for business. I could not approach them as I was with a group that was supposed to be on best behaviour. I talked to the doorman one night about getting a girl and he offered to order one to come by taxi, but I did not want to trust blind luck and have no choice in who I got.

So Lvov was pretty loveless for me!

Searcherguy
07-26-12, 20:33
Any brothels in Lviv? If so, what address?

Thanks!

Itsgforme
08-22-12, 16:44
I'm about to head out on another long trip and will visit Lviv for the fourth time. I've never had any luck in this town. Maybe it's because I'm usually there in the middle of the winter, but combining my lack of Ukraine / Russian language with what I'd call the "dour" attitude of the people there has always made it hard for me to find action.

I've had no problems in Kiev and Moscow caters to foreign men with extra cash. But Lviv? Help! .

Anyone have any suggestions?

Searcherguy
08-23-12, 02:59
ChubbyAmerican (post #1373) , if you happen to read this message before September 11, please get back with me. I'm American and I'll be in Lviv for a few days between September 13-18. I'm sure we could have a good time.


Hello, yes. I have noticed this is a site primarily for men. BUT being a Chubby American Woman in Lviv is NOT an easy task as there are far too many beautiful Ukrainian womane here! So I am looking for a way to connect to frequent sex. I have a voracious sexual appetite and few sexual boundaries. I just like sex a lot (need?). If you know how I could connect to something here (including bdsm) I would greatly appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

M.

Cruiser D
08-23-12, 14:17
sounds like an invite to an anal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and organ harvest. you ever see hostel? :d


chubbyamerican (post #1373) , if you happen to read this message before september 11, please get back with me. i'm american and i'll be in lviv for a few days between september 13-18. i'm sure we could have a good time.

DoctorOral
08-23-12, 14:54
Yes, chubby. Take me right now.

We can "connect" as much as you want.

PM me!


Hello, yes. I have noticed this is a site primarily for men. BUT being a Chubby American Woman in Lviv is NOT an easy task as there are far too many beautiful Ukrainian womane here! So I am looking for a way to connect to frequent sex. I have a voracious sexual appetite and few sexual boundaries. I just like sex a lot (need?). If you know how I could connect to something here (including bdsm) I would greatly appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

M.

El Cubanito
10-13-12, 13:08
Has any body been to the city of Nikopol or Pavlograd? Any advice how is the action in these cities will be welcome and helpful.

Maxilian
11-26-12, 00:37
I've been living in Lviv for a while and this is my experience:

As a foreigner, Lviv can be challenging for both pick-up and p4p. People in general are a bit more sceptical to foreigners and even Russian speakers might experience resistance. Also, prostitution here is not nearly as common or open as in other cities such as Kiev in particular. That said, it doesn't mean Lviv is absolutely dead. It just offers more of a challenge, so it might not be the best place if you're in a hurry.

Websites:

During Euro 2012 there was a lot of them, but most seems to have gone 'poof':

http://relaxportal.biz/prostitutki-lvova

Seems to be operational still: 400-800 UAH / hour +taxi.

http://mamba.ru

Is of course also an option: It's not what it used to be since they removed the 'offering sex for money' tag, but look for young girls wanting to meet guys up to the age of 60/80 is a sure sign, but this require planning some time ahead. Approx $100 + taxi seems to be the regular rate.

Clubs:

Fashion Club: Biggest hotspot for foreigners. 100 UAH entrance. Many very good looking girls (pro / semi-pros and freebies). Expect to pay $100 / hour. But be ware: Not all girls are p4p.

Rafinad: More for local people, but you might bunp into a pro or two. There's also a strip-club in the club.

Strip clubs: Officially no strip clubs in Lviv offer take-away, but there are exceptions.

Casanoca: Located in center. Very small / intimate, few girls. 300 UAH for private, nothing extra, no takeaway and not the best service.

Split: Located in center. Mid size, some nice girls. 200 UAH for private, BJ / HJ / DATY possible with tip, no takeaway, possible to arrange dates.

Rafinad: Located in center. Mid size, some nice girls. 200 UAH for private, no takeaway.

Misto: 10 minutete by taxi (50 UAH) from center. Big club, many girls. 200 UAH for private (promo) , no takeaway. PS: Camera in private rooms.

Rasputin: 10 minutete by taxi (50 UAH) from center. Small club, few girls, very local establisment. 200 UAH for private, takeaway possible for 50/hour.

Zansibar: 10 minutete by taxi (50 UAH) from center. Still to be explored.

I've gotten phone-numbers from girls in all of the above, dated several, but were mostly scared by how most looked sober in daylight.

According to some other reports there's supposed to be some truck-stop motel outside the city, but why pay an extra 2x100 UAH for taxi for some 3rd rate, cheap babushka.

Conclusion: As initially mentioned, Lviv isn't the best if you're in a hurry. Personally I prefer spending week-ends in Kiev with a cute sponsorette or the occational high-class model type escort.

Gergiev
12-01-12, 05:35
I've been living in Lviv for a while and this is my experience:

As a foreigner, Lviv can be challenging for both pick-up and p4p. People in general are a bit more sceptical to foreigners and even Russian speakers might experience resistance. Also, prostitution here is not nearly as common or open as in other cities such as Kiev in particular. That said, it doesn't mean Lviv is absolutely dead. It just offers more of a challenge, so it might not be the best place if you're in a hurry.

Conclusion: As initially mentioned, Lviv isn't the best if you're in a hurry. Personally I prefer spending week-ends in Kiev with a cute sponsorette or the occational high-class model type escort.Thank you, Max.

Long overdue a comprehensive report on this city even if it is a low-key place for pay-sex...

Jojosun
12-01-12, 13:34
Thank you, Max.

Long overdue a comprehensive report on this city even if it is a low-key place for pay-sex.Seconded.

Seconded.

Very good and without the drivel.

Gergiev
12-08-12, 03:12
Seconded.

Seconded.Jojo, quite funny that you seconded your 'seconded'!

Do you realise, that for some reason, your posts often come out twice in the forum?

Ie, 2 identical posts; one after the other...

Jojosun
12-08-12, 13:49
Do you realise, that for some reason, your posts often come out twice in the forum?

Ie. 2 identical posts; one after the other.Memory issues in my case.

Why does The Postman Always Rings Twice?

Gergiev
12-09-12, 01:28
Memory issues in my case.Ha, Jojo, I won't hear of it.

You probably just need a pair of lusty Ukrainian twins to get you back on track...

Maxilian
12-09-12, 22:47
Ha, Jojo, I won't hear of it.

You probably just need a pair of lusty Ukrainian twins to get you back on track.Second that!

There are few experiences to match a night with a twin-set of long legged, platina dirty-blonde ukrainian twins.

Red Rex
12-14-12, 08:06
I spent several months in the Uke over summer and went more or less straight to Luhansk, mainly because I understood Luhansk, though not much of city scenically or otherwise, was full of beautiful young willing women. I wasn't disappointed. I had been using a dating site called charmingdate.com and made contact with many girls over a period of months (prior to arrival in the Uke).

Ah yes, I hear you say, so many scams. But there are many genuine girls and you need to advertise yourself as 'looking for fun' and add a few gf personal attributes that girls everywhere like. To be sure, there are many scams and the pictures are often very heavily photoshopped but you soon learn to distinguish between the real and unreal. It takes a lot of time and effort and is well worth it. You pay a lot initially in contact costs (website chat, letters etc) but it can turn out to be remarkably cheap once you arrive because I find the real girls don't really ask you for too much. Aso it's away from Kiev and Odesa where the girls are different.

You smell a rat when the girl starts asking for money while in correspondence or wants to meet you at Kiev airport and needs the cost of the airfare etcetc. It's important to state in your profile that you are looking for fun, and that you will be coming to the Uke soon. That makes your intentions clear and you will get letters from the right girls, not the ones who are looking for the whole package, so there is no unnecessary deception and emotional disappointment.

I found the scam often involves bogus agencies who use the photos of a girl and write all the chat stuff and letters themselves. Sometimes the girl herself doesn't even know that is happening, or she does know but receives a small % of the takings. You arrive at Kiev airport and find you are suddenly forking out large amounts of cash for scam amounts of costs including interpreters, transport, hotels etcetc. Don't do it! Arrive cold.

So I arrived in Luhansk 'cold'. I knew no-one and had no contacts and stayed the first night in a hotel central city. I soon discovered it better to rent an apartment as you have a good deal more privacy (by the way, a crash course in basic Russian prior to arrival in the Uke is a great help to success in a city like Luhansk). I proceeded to contact one or two of the girls, which I will relate later. I found it helped to contact one or two of the local English language schools (university included) and offer voluntary English tutoring. It helped a great deal in making useful contacts and wonderful hospitality. I also had a business card made up with my address, dished it out at supermarkets and everywhere else, and quickly found the girls knocking at my door. Luhansk is amazing, there are beautiful sexy girls everywhere in the streets and elsewhere. I will relate my sexual adventures in Luhansk as well as Odessa, Kherson, Sevastapol, Poltava, Zaporizhia and elsewhere. The same site has a sister site for China and found the experiences similar, which I'll relate in the China section

Sponsor74
12-16-12, 01:22
Dear All,

I have been a few years ago in Vinnytsia / Vinnitsa, and had some adult fun with my gf and a local girl in a sauna in a kind of a Bunker.

Can anyone report what's going for adult's in Vinnytsia / Vinnitsa?

I will be back there in early August for a week, and I'm looking for Bi Girls or sauna, or Swinger Club.

Any help would be appreciated.

DanI am looking for updated info in this city and check the Forum until year 2010 and found too much. Who can help?

Kaloot123
02-25-13, 23:22
Hello, yes. I have noticed this is a site primarily for men. BUT being a Chubby American Woman in Lviv is NOT an easy task as there are far too many beautiful Ukrainian womane here! So I am looking for a way to connect to frequent sex. I have a voracious sexual appetite and few sexual boundaries. I just like sex a lot (need?). If you know how I could connect to something here (including bdsm) I would greatly appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

M.I am frequently in Lviv.

You can contact me as well, for further "advice".

Try to catch me on [Email address deleted by Admin].

Would be nice to get together and have some fun in this furthermore boring city.

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Mithrandir16
05-08-13, 10:11
Hello Guys,

I am planning to travel lviv or Kharkov. Also, I can go to nearby cities of lviv or Kharkov. According to other forum posts, lviv seems nice city but conservative.

There is also not more information, specially for paid sex.

People say these two cities are poorest areas in Ukraine. Which is the best choice for paid sex? (cost / benefit).

Regards

DoctorOral
05-19-13, 20:23
How is the scene in donetsk? Anyone been there. Looking to spend a week there. Advice?

TheKnight
05-20-13, 01:27
Hello Guys,

I am planning to travel lviv or Kharkov. Also, I can go to nearby cities of lviv or Kharkov. According to other forum posts, lviv seems nice city but conservative.

There is also not more information, specially for paid sex.

People say these two cities are poorest areas in Ukraine. Which is the best choice for paid sex? (cost / benefit).

RegardsPoorest in Ukraine? Who says? People who know nothing. Go to Lviv.you'll see how poor it is and how they struggle compared to say, people in Kherson or Kryvyi Rog.

But to be serious, Lviv I would ski if you only want p4p. Kharkov, plenty of opportunities, big student city. Except many students going back home soon! Lots of listings for Kharkov in national websites.

DoctorOral
05-25-13, 00:28
So I was in Odessa all this week and left Wednesday after having fun. Went to some bars and clubs. But the scene was somewhat slow. Then discovered http://night.dn.ua And went 4 nights in a row.

Guys, I am always walking to curry in a hurry on Lexington Ave. And even 20 block walk won't stop me. And I am not sure how long I would walk to get back there.

There is massages like "try out" or something. She brings herself off, then you, then wonderful massage, then second O for you. Feels like heaven and eternity, and lasts somewhat 2 hours for a hundred bucks approx. I am not so much into fucking, so this, for me, is the best ever ever ever had! Try!

BrasilSoccer0
06-04-13, 16:01
Gents,

I am interested in studying Russian and of course meet lots of regulars and semi girls.

Not into big towns or where lots of tourist especially sex tourist are know to go or where prostitution is popular.

I will be there for 2-3 months so I'll need to rent a low cost no thrills furnished apartment by locals not expats.

What do ya'll suggest. So far I have been interested in: Donetsk, Luhansk. Mainly because they predominantly speak Russian as primary language.

I see a lot of chatter on Lviv and Kharkov on this thread. They are on the western part and I read there is a strong neo-nazi and ultra nationalist sentiment in that part of Ukraine.

Thanking you in advance and will keep reading the posts.

TheKnight
06-07-13, 19:58
Gents,

I am interested in studying Russian and of course meet lots of regulars and semi girls.

Not into big towns or where lots of tourist especially sex tourist are know to go or where prostitution is popular.

I will be there for 2-3 months so I'll need to rent a low cost no thrills furnished apartment by locals not expats.

What do ya'll suggest. So far I have been interested in: Donetsk, Luhansk. Mainly because they predominantly speak Russian as primary language.

I see a lot of chatter on Lviv and Kharkov on this thread. They are on the western part and I read there is a strong neo-nazi and ultra nationalist sentiment in that part of Ukraine.

Thanking you in advance and will keep reading the posts.Why don't you get a map buddy? Kharkov is in the east, close the Russian border and you will hear almost zero Ukrainian spoken on the streets.

IMHO Kharkov is also a far nicer and more interesting city(esp for girls) then either Donetsk or Lugansk.

The neo-nazism? Mmmmm, there is a lot of nationalism in Lviv true. But mainly anti-Russian.

Kharkov & Lugansk are more racist generally.

Kharkov was the only place undercover journalists there for a month before Euro2012 found any racist stuff in Ukrainian grounds. Not Lviv.

So, suggest you learn a little more about real Ukraine.

BrasilSoccer0
06-07-13, 22:55
TK, it looks like I mistook Kharkov's location. I am learning a lot.

I am using a Wikipedia old map showing the percentage of Russian speaking population by provinces. Kharkov had 44% and Donetsk had 75% coming second after the Crimea region. This is based on 2001 census and again it is by majority populations of each province so it is possible that one city like Kharkov has a higher tilt towards Russian.

Kharkov is the second largest city and with big cities usually you'll find big troubles.

Remember, I'll be looking for an apartment amongst locals, so having a nice, safe and friendly environment is important for my long stay.

To give you a prospective, when in Moldova I stayed in Tiraspol, Transnistria and that is a small town but for me it was a great experience. Girls there where still innocent, not spoiled by pop culture and very very hungry sexually. The town was dull but the girls where amazing and friendly. Always smiling at me. I felt like a novelty. LOL

When I go to Cuba, I never go to Havana and instead to camaguey where you'll find a handful of tourists and lots of appreciative girls who are happy someone invited them to dinner and a walk and ice cream! These are the experiences I like and look for.

So I avoid big cities.

Again, thank you for your response.


Why don't you get a map buddy? Kharkov is in the east, close the Russian border and you will hear almost zero Ukrainian spoken on the streets.

IMHO Kharkov is also a far nicer and more interesting city (esp for girls) then either Donetsk or Lugansk.

The neo-nazism? Mmmmm, there is a lot of nationalism in Lviv true. But mainly anti-Russian.

Kharkov & Lugansk are more racist generally.

Kharkov was the only place undercover journalists there for a month before Euro2012 found any racist stuff in Ukrainian grounds. Not Lviv.

So, suggest you learn a little more about real Ukraine.

Sailor 222
06-14-13, 21:17
I will be heading to Yalta in a few weeks time. After several years. Any update or suggestions about Yalta is appreciated.

Reiner Otto
06-23-13, 18:43
Gents,

I am interested in studying Russian and of course meet lots of regulars and semi girls.I suggest Nikolaev or Cherson. In case of Nikolaev, I can recommend you the very best teacher of Russian, I ever had, for private lessons.

(And I killed the nerves of quite a few teachers, I can tell you.)

However, it depends upon time of the year. For winter time, Odessa might be the better choice. But it is the most expensive one out of these 3 cities, Cherson is the cheapest.

During July / August, better go to Crimea. Donetsk / Lugansk too industrial for my taste.

LukasPL
07-02-13, 10:59
Hello guys!

I'm going on my first trip to Ukraine. I need your advice. What's the best place to meet beautiful Ukraine or Russian girls and spend some exciting nights with them? I've read your posts and I think Lviv is not the best one. What do you recommend me? As I said it's my first trip there so I don't want to be scammed. Please tell me what city you recommend, do you mostly take you girls (hotel, her flat, salon of massage or.) , what shall I pay for 1h or whole night etc. Just several practice advices. I'm going to Ukraine on 15 July. First place I'd like to visit is Lviv.

Thank's much!

Lukas

ReDroo
07-09-13, 09:01
Hi has anyone got any up to date news or ideas for the port city this summer?

Sailor 222
07-09-13, 17:24
No reply in the last few weeks to my post. (does that mean that yalta is dead for mongering. I bet not.) I have a number of contacts from Mamba already plus some local aid. Let us see what it takes. Any wingsman for the coming few days is welcomed.

Iceberg27
08-03-13, 14:41
I have made my decision for evpatoria is there anyone know how to get there from simferepol airport? And also a good place for accommodation?

Reiner Otto
08-03-13, 16:45
I have made my decision for evpatoria is there anyone know how to get there from simferepol airport? And also a good place for accommodation?Hotel: This one I used a few times myself. However, never in high season.

Big advantage: Location about 100m to the beach; almost directly at the promenade; 5m walk from the walking area with bars, restaurants etc. But still quiet, because at end of dead end street; 10m walk from disco "Amsterdam". So very close to the action.

Disadvantage: breakfast was nothing special.

http://www.russkoemore-hotel.com/price2013.html

The cheap accomodation you will only find in Evpatoria directly. So you might book 2/3 nights in the hotel, and look for yourself then.

No idea about connection from airport: there should be a minibus to railway station. You should ask at airport after arrival, or even before your take-off just other passengers, looking like Ukrainians. In worst case, a taxi. From railway station a bus every hour.

Usually, at the bus station in Evpatoria, there are always some "maklers" offering accomodation. In case, you can not book in advance, do it there for a few days only. And then look around yourself. Advance booking is not the standard in UA (because of no-shows, not paying) , so to book on the spot is the way, most people do.

You should visit the restaurant in the photo. Crimean tartares run it. It is located opposite to the old gate to "Small Jerusalem", the old Jewish part of Evpatoria. Excellent food, good interieur, reasonable prices. No reservations, you have to queue up soon enough.

Rulerk
08-04-13, 18:32
I have made my decision for evpatoria is there anyone know how to get there from simferepol airport? And also a good place for accommodation?Easiest way is to catch a bus to Evpatoria. They run from the train station and I believe the bus station. Taxis will rip you off. I'll be there with friends sometime midweek. PM me with your cell number and I'll drop you a line.

-Kevin

Iceberg27
08-07-13, 20:29
I have arrived today to Evpatoria. Hotel Ruskeomore didn't let me in and hotel imperial let with a price of 900 grivna inclusive room+breakfast. More than a hundred dolar. I hate that. But anyway..the place is crowded. Otto any info about P4P scene ?Prices? Any other recommendable hotel? And one last note I need a good lie that explains why I am here.

Reiner Otto
08-07-13, 21:21
Otto any info about P4P scene ?P4P: Disco Amsterdam. At the long bar, on the side opposite the dance floor. No idea about price.

Stravinsky
08-07-13, 22:50
I have arrived today to Evpatoria.Iceberg,

поздравлаю вас! (congratulations)

Looking forward to all the wonderful reports on Evpatoria... :)

Iceberg27
08-08-13, 02:34
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1456183]Iceberg,

&1087; &1086; &1079; &1076; &1088; &1072; &1074; &1083; &1072; &1102; &1074; &1072; &1089; ! (congratulations)

Looking forward to all the wonderful reports on Evpatoria. [/QUOTE.

I just want to kill myself or betterly pull an break of my balls an cock and get rid of them forever.

Think about this;

You come to a crowded ukranian seaside after one month feast. You didn't even touch a woman s hand for a complete month and you have to watch all these gymnasium champions on the beach for all day. I had already stopped masturbation becuase I wanted to explode during this short holiday in ukraine. What do I get? Just nothing. If I had I wouldn't be able to write you these I would be cumming inside a fsu pussy at the moment.

Mannnn! They are everywhere! In the night time they are coming over and over you with loads with their tanned, fit, muscular body on the street near sea. You can go crazy but you are just soothing yourslef because you naively believing that you will get something from disco at night.

I had arrived disco at about 11 pm. The average age is 23. Believe me I am not exagerating!

After 15-20 frustration I approach a group of girls and start to talk with a girl named Daria. There are two young french boys with them. Strangely they are behaving very friendly and they even make translation for me to the girls. After a few minutes I am being very close with Daria. Her skin is a droplet of water that someone lost in a desert. Warm and soft. Her voice is like a medulla. (thanks to Bob Dylan) I don't get in a hurry. I am slowly touching her and hug. The french who is dealing with her tell us to go and dance together. We go and dance and I think he already gave up the girl and serving her to me but the dream comes to end after a few minutes. He comes and say "This is my girl" and she moves to his side. I had to watch they leave together. She was the right target. I knew it when I see her first but just didn't move because silly me was thinking that I can find a more bea one. Anyway I decided to move Yalta tomorrow at least I can arrange some P4P for myself.

One note for Otto: I had stayed and observed the long bar For 4 hours and I even go and ask sex with money to a few girls. None of them accepted moreover they don't look WG. I am suspicious that there were some semi pros but this is also a low possibility. Finally I go and ask the bartender for P4P availabilty. He said "just meet the girls" that s why I had insisted and asked nearly half of the girls inside the club amsterdam.

Anyway any idea about the rates in Yalta? Where are the best places? I also need to be in a strip club.

Additional note; why don't we make a handbook here on forum "How to approach a dyevuska in a fsu night club?"

I can make a lot of contributions by myself especiallly what not to do. I had learned all these lessons after some thousand frustration and ready to share with you free.

Stravinsky
08-08-13, 18:52
Her skin is a droplet of water that someone lost in a desert.Iceberg,

You have got it bad, my friend. The best way to meet FSU girls is to act as if they are nothing special in particular. After all, the world is full of women. If you will treat every girl you meet as if she is the last droplet of water in the desert, then you are lost.

You may misunderstand about P4P at Amsterdam. There are many levels of P4P. There are the professional prostitutes, who will take anyone for a set price. This is what you get in a bordello or salon. But there are also many young women, who do not consider themselves prostitutes, who will be happy to get paid for something that they like to do anyway. But you cannot approach them as if they were a prostitute: making demands about service and price. I think this is what the bartender was trying to tell you.

If you think 100 USD is a lot for a hotel room in Evpatoria, then what will happen to you when you arrive in Yalta, in the middle of August, and you have to spend all of your money just for a hotel room? This is assuming you can find an empty room.

Iceberg27
08-09-13, 01:19
Iceberg,

You have got it bad, my friend. The best way to meet FSU girls is to act as if they are nothing special in particular. After all, the world is full of women. If you will treat every girl you meet as if she is the last droplet of water in the desert, then you are lost.

You may misunderstand about P4P at Amsterdam. There are many levels of P4P. There are the professional prostitutes, who will take anyone for a set price. This is what you get in a bordello or salon. But there are also many young women, who do not consider themselves prostitutes, who will be happy to get paid for something that they like to do anyway. But you cannot approach them as if they were a prostitute: making demands about service and price. I think this is what the bartender wasStrav I have better understanding for evpatoria today. The place is like a woman. When you have just decided to leave it gives you something more than yesterday and you decide to stay. I was very decisive to leave the hotel an head to Yalta I had even asked the hotel to give my money back for tomorrow and they had confirmed. After that I left the hotel and was going to the beach for experiencing the day. Suddenly I see two middle age Turks walkin on the way and we had talked a bit. And the magic begins.

First of all real p4p action in evpatoria happens in Frigat Restaurant and Randevu. This info confirmed by the Tatar taxi driver that I have been friend with. Briefly I changed my mind because why should take the way to Yalta if I can find the diamond here. Collect the baggage, take the way, find the hotel in yalta, open the suitcase. I am even not sure that the girls will come to my hotel. My turkish friends telling me something unbeliavable. He is here for the 4th time and he has a few contacts which he pays 50 or 100 USD per day starts from noon till tomorrow morning. She is also being his tour guide, translator, friend and so whatever for the daytime. Can you believe it? 50 USD for about 19 hours of rent.

Anyway let me jump the most important part of the story;

About 9 o clock I had arrived the Frigat there are a few woman but most ofthem obviosly not WG. I am again very daring. Go and ask two women for having a drink with them and refused. About ten o clock the place is being full and the average age is 35 here. Much much better than being in Amsterdam and compete with 20s. Before leaving for Ukraine Palace Hotel (my turkish friends told me there are girls for 200-250 USD.) I decide to take the shot a few times. Bingo. Three decent looking women accepts me to sit with them for a drink. Briefly after 3 hours I got a lot of kiss a few very close dance and my hands onher everywhere. They are leaving because they have some friends waiting in Randevu. But they promise me! To come here again at 9 o clock pm tomorrow (I don't eat sheet girls!)

I am trying my chance in Randevu and Disco amsterdam and also in Ukraine Palace. Got nothing. The receptionist tells me that they don't have girls for rent here and they never had in the past. I know you think I am very naive to ask him but I was so desperate.

Briefly (this is the last brief) This city has potential. Serios potential especially you can speak the lingua.

Note: I really will never totally understand these semi pro issue. Man! They are not semi pro. We can't even call them Quarter pro. They are very very selective. Especially the girls in amsterdam. And I hate the concept. You will pay for them and also you have to make them have good time with you. You have to convince her to come with you to your hotel. I hate that. This is exhausting! I didn't know the accomodation prices in Yalta so you tell me that I will pay 200 or 300 hundred USD for a room?
I was thinking the best way for meeting freebies is the beach.Beach and usually whole Evap is full with families little children and couples. The place is a heaven for kids.
Is there any recommendation to meet with freebies in daytime? ( i want to do it because i know it s easier to meet with them in daytime than it s in the night in a club...

Stravinsky
08-09-13, 15:46
I didn't know the accomodation prices in Yalta so you tell me that I will pay 200 or 300 hundred USD for a room?For a good hotel, in Yalta, in August, yes 200 or 300 USD for a room. Only other option to save money is maybe a hostel, where you share a room with 4 or 6 other guys. But now, money is not your problem. Problem in Yalta will be to find hotel with available room.


Briefly (this is the last brief) This city has potential. Serios potential especially you can speak the lingua.Your best bet is to stay where you are and make the best of the situation. From what you report, Evpatoria has many possibilities. Talk to your Turkish friends and your Tatar taxist. But don't waste so much time with the women who only want to kiss and close dancing. You don't want to attack them about money or service, but you also need to make it clear that you want more than a few kisses. If they are not willing, then move on the next girl. It seems there is no shortage of women in Evpatoria.


Is there any recommendation to meet with freebies in daytime? ( i want to do it because i know it s easier to meet with them in daytime than it s in the night in a club.You are the one who is there, on the ground. What do you think? If the young, single women are not on the beach, where would they be? Check the cafes, or the shops. Women love to go shopping.

I'm sure you will find a way, but you need to calm down and start thinking with your big head, not your little one.

Will the Crimea conquer the Turk? Or will the Turk, conquer the Crimea? ;)

Iceberg27
08-09-13, 17:12
I'm sure you will find a way, but you need to calm down and start thinking with your big head, not your little one.

Will the Crimea conquer the Turk? Or will the Turk, conquer the Crimea? .[/QUOTE]You are funny Strav!

Maybe I leave a post to Russian woman dating forum so we go deep in this issue.

I am in Kazantip. It shoul be a big regret if I didn't try at least one day when I am such close. I am in evpatoria till the end of my holiday. It takes about 30 mins and 170 grivnas to get here with the heavy traffic and terrible road. So it would at least 3-4 hours to get Yalta. I feel I am in the right way after all too much thinkings. I will report back.

Iceberg27
08-10-13, 15:20
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2941-Russian-Women-Opinions-and-Advice&p=1457284&viewfull=1#post1457284

Iceberg27
08-11-13, 19:57
I know what is the first question come up your mind. Do I have regrets to choose Evpatoria? I tell you from heart. I don't have. Today I would make the same choice. I won't even change one minute of my time with Viktorya or Lina in Frigrat to a full day in Artemis Berlin. I think there are still some people in this forum feeling like me. Normally in logical means I could go to St. Petersburg and enjoy the saloons with cheap prices but I will never have the experience of that freebie-semi pro action. My biggest mistake was not to understand the greatness of the cheap taverna Frigrat Restaurant. Enjoyable music, wonderful wines. 20-25 women changing between 5-9 with a mean age of 30. (on Saturday) Frigat restauant is definitely a place to be. I am personally not into that electronic music sheet. Moreover you can't find the opportunity to make a slow dance with women there which gives you a great chance for getting close in places plays electronic music.

Men! Good wines works for mongerers. All sluts being drunk after 12 o clock. Take them, dance with them, kiss them, touch their everywhere. If I had more time. And of course of course language. Everytime a very good going relationship in there crashes on the fucking languge barrier. I have no idea about 80 percent that women told me. So if you are asking should you go there without Russian? Yes you should because always there is a possiblity to find a girl who can speak at least basic english. And the most important point is they are stilll easier than anywhere despite the language barrier.

About Kazantip;

Just forget the fcking it. I have just wasted my very much valuable 250 USD there and very very valuable one night instead to spend it in Fritag. It's not like in the old days. All action starts after midnight and you have to find a way to spend time between 18:00 to midnight. And you will get 3 men for each girls after that time. Daytime I think better possibilities. Thousands of beauties which are from higher social classes and mostly over 25. So better than being in Disco Amsterdam.

Evpatoria doesn't give you much opportunities in day time because mostly people with children occupy everywhere. Very hard to find single woman. (except sales woman in shops. I don't think so that they are good targets.) Also beach action isn't some kind of Arcadia because it s also full of grandmothers, mothers, fathers, and children crying shouting and getting trouble everywhere! I had tried shopping street. Nothing special. Not worth a visit.

Strav,

I had tried to be open to possibilities usually. Succeeded sometimes but not always. Now when I look back I understand what kind of opportunities that I missed.

1) The receptionist in the hotel. I was crazy after her while showing me the breakfast salon and climbing up 4 floors in front of me with the hot uniform mini skirt. She was one of the very few english speaker girls there and I should definitely ask her because was taking positive attention but silly me didn't.

2) The housekeeper more than doable. Yes I am not president of IMF so to ask her for a service with money or just flirting wouldn't be so much problematic.

3) One of the two girls with the two Russian students that I met on the beach. Contrary to women Russian men are very open to talk with you and always remember they will have some female accomponion next to them. (One of them is the girlfriend of the older boy and the other student wasnt so much interested in the other girl and she was so unhappy with that.)

4) If I met Viktorya one day before I should have a chance to develop my rel. With her so 99% will score.

Remarkables:

1) Fresh mouth of Viktorya. Roses on boobs of Lina.

2) French kissing lesbians on Kazantip. One of them is the perfect prototype of Penelope Cruz and the other is Julia Robert's.

3) Topless blonde running away on beach from there to there and making jokes to her friends.

4) Cevval Restaurant. World class-authentic restaurant with traditional Tatar foods.

5) Stupidities happened when I met with the two middle age Turkish men on my last night. (Thanks god I could be able to get rid of them at midnight.) Nervous breakdown of the girl which Adnan sponsoring for 5 years. The ugliest woman can be found in Evp. Was brought for me and of course I rejected. (That s why she has the N. B.)

6) Seydi's last coffee offer in his room that makes me so much suspicious about him being a faggot. (Maybe just my paranoia. Still not sure.)

7) 20's cutest semi pros that I will never have a chance with in Disco Amsterdam.

8) Evpatoria bus station toilet. (the cleanest I have ever seen in my entire life for a bus station)

9) White wine in Frigrat.

10) The motorcyle girl Alice which promised to meet in Ibiza after 1 o clock but I was so busy with Viktorya at that time so I couldn't go. Attached her picture.

11) 200 USD pulled out of my pocket in Frigrat. (I don't tell you it's a a totally safe place. Also I have seen a fight.)

Last notes;

Being a Turkish helped me a lot because I could always be able to find someone who can at least speak basic Turkish. It disabled me a lot because people there have a lot of Prejudgements. (But remember. It's always an attraction to be with a man that your mother told not to.)

Frigrat is just next to the Man Statue-Around pools. Also Randevu is a place similar. And also Ibiza.

Regards.

Stravinsky
08-11-13, 23:10
молодец!

It sounds like the Turk conquered the Crimea... :)

Thanks for your excellent reports about Evpatoria, and thanks for the pix! I don't ever remember a report from there.

Your trip was not perfect. You did not do everything as you should, according to best advices. But that's OK, because in Eastern Europe, nothing is perfect--but everything is exactly as it should be. Most important you enjoyed yourself. And remember, everything is an opportunity.

So, you should make a promise to yourself for this winter. If you believe that Eastern Europe is the best place for you, because it is close and convenient, then you need to go to school and study Russian. You do not need to read War and Peace, only to make basic conversation. If you can do this, then next summer you will be like Alice jumping down the rabbit hole into Wonderland.

всего доброго

Iceberg27
08-12-13, 22:22
&1084; &1086; &1083; &1086; &1076; &1077; &1094; !

It sounds like the Turk conquered the Crimea. .

Thanks for your excellent reports about Evpatoria, and thanks for the pix! I don't ever remember a report from there.

Your trip was not perfect. You did not do everything as you should, according to best advices. But that's OK, because in Eastern Europe, nothing is perfect-but everything is exactly as it should be. Most important you enjoyed yourself. And remember, everything Is an opportunity.

So, you should make a promise to yourself for this winter. If you believe that Eastern Europe is the best place for you, because it is close and convenient, then you need to go to school and study Russian. You do not need to read War and Peace, only to make basic conversation. If you can do this, then next summer you will be like Alice jumping down the rabbit hole into Wonderland.

&1074; &1089; &1077; &1075; &1086; &1076; &1086; &1073; &1088; &1086; &1075; &1086; Strav,

This is my 4 th time in EE. Everytime I am being more convenient and every time it bites me from somewhere. I had never lost my wallet since 35 years in Turkey neither my money removed my pocket. I was smart enough to put my wallet in safe box at room this time. I recommend this to all mongerers. You will be drunk and your blood will be inside your dick so very few in your brain. At least you will get rid of applying for new credit cards identities etc etc. Just loose the money. I have lost a very valuable 200 USD but anyway. I won't give up. I forgive that money for the jelaous and angry looks of Ukranian men while I was making out with Viktorya. Ha ha! I started to seach for a decent Russian course. I am not sure that I will find any other opportunity to go there again this summer but at least I will have great fun in mamba. Moreover it's always possible to bring dyevuska's to here in Istanbul like one of my close friend's did. By the way it's the 4th hardly studied language after Chinese arabic and japan. Let's see. I believe I have talent on languages. And best is I have a great motivation coming from below. Regards. And thanks for your support.

Himself
08-25-13, 17:18
Hello,

My company has decided to open a branch office in Kherson. And it seems that I will be spending some time there this autumn.

Does any of you have any updates or hints for Kherson. What is in the forum is a bit old and overall does not look promising.

I tried to contact a few davuskas on mamba but in general there seem not to be scene in Kherson.

Any hints about cafes, night clubs would also be welcomed.

Full report (if anything to report) will of course follow.

Iceberg27
08-26-13, 12:18
I will have a 3 days vacation on 30. 08. 2013-01. 09. 2013 anyone will appear in Yalta?

Prosal
08-28-13, 17:32
Provincial Ukraine from 29 August to 24 September.

- Zaporijie from 29 to 11 (with maybe a side-trip to Melitopol to visit an internet contact)

- Dnepro from 11 to 24.

If someone is around, PM.

Irish Lad
09-15-13, 14:04
Provincial Ukraine from 29 August to 24 September.

- Zaporijie from 29 to 11 (with maybe a side-trip to Melitopol to visit an internet contact)

- Dnepro from 11 to 24.

If someone is around, PM.In Dnepro there is Labyrinth which is ok for Sundays and Mondays when other places closed

Prosal
09-16-13, 10:01
Just a few lines about Zaporojie.

Despite the fact that it s just at some 80 km from Dnepro, which seems to be a pretty successful city with many modern malls, super upscale venues, ect, Zaporojie gives a feeling of "forgotten industrial shithole". That said, I m here since almost three weeks now and really enjoy the place. First, there s NO sex-tourists (and no tourists for that matter). I m not joking, since I m here I ve never bumped into a foreigner. Second, the women are really something to behold (better that Kiev IMO) and because of the lack of foreigners, the White God Factor (provided you are decent looking and dressed with refinement and style) seems to be really high, or let s say much higher than in Kharkov, Lviv, Niko, ect. Third, people are super nice, polite, honest (even taxi drivers) and service is simply perfect everywhere. Fourth, it s dirty cheap. A nice apartment in the center is 18/day, drinks are a steal in clubs, restaurants are dirty cheap, taxis to anywhere in town are 30 grivnas, ect.

Anyway, a short list of where to go:

- Banana Club (Lenina): the locals call this place "our little Kiev" and it s where the "bad girls" congregate and where you want to go. Fully packed in weekends, and often busy on weekdays. Arrive early to get a table. Vodka bottle (Smirnoff) 20 , Corona 2. 5, no cover for the tables.

- Carrousel (near Ukraine mall): a rather upscale place, but nice and with good music. Full of upper-class women aged 24/35 yo. All tables.

- Crown Bar (Intourist hotel): THE "in" and pretentuous club of Zapo. Full packed, many gorgeous girls, but I really don t like the place.

- Platinum (near the river): mid-level club, worth a visit maybe, I also don t like much.

- Palmira (near Banana): a restaurant / club frequented by the local politicians, mafiosos, ect. Not bad.

- Aristokrat (Lenina): a 24 hours restaurant in the center. Expensive, pretentuous, but most party-goers finish there at 5 am.

Some nice cafes with summer terraces (full of women. Where are the men in this city?):

- Rozmarin, my headquarter, a very upscale italian place, gorgeous women.

- Fiesta, almost adjacent, always fully packed with women.

- Jolly Roger, on the Dniepr, great on summer, live music, often packed.

Also, what is nice in Zapo is the parks get full with girls drinking beers in summer nights, very easy to game if lower middle class young 7s / 7. 5s is your thing.

Prosal
09-16-13, 15:03
Banana Cafe:

http://banana.zp.ua/

Sponsor74
09-16-13, 20:10
Just a few lines about Zaporojie.

Despite the fact that it s just at some 80 km from Dnepro, which seems to be a pretty successful city with many modern malls, super upscale venues, ect, Zaporojie gives a feeling of "forgotten industrial shithole". That said, I m here since almost three weeks now and really enjoy the place. First, there s NO sex-tourists (and no tourists for that matter). I m not joking, since I m here I ve never bumped into a foreigner. Second, the women are really something to behold (better that Kiev IMO) and because of the lack of foreigners, the White God Factor (provided you are decent looking and dressed with refinement and style) seems to be really high, or let s say much higher than in Kharkov, Lviv, Niko, ect. Third, people are super nice, polite, honest (even taxi drivers) and service is simply perfect everywhere. Fourth, it s dirty cheap. A nice apartment in the center is 18/day, drinks are a steal in clubs, restaurants are dirty cheap, taxis to anywhere in town are 30 grivnas, ect.

Anyway, a short list of where to go:

- Banana Club (Lenina) : the locals call this place "our little Kiev" and it s where the "bad girls" congregate and where you want to go. Fully packed in weekends, and often busy on weekdays. Arrive early to get a table. Vodka bottle (Smirnoff) 20 , Corona 2. 5, no cover for the tables.

- Carrousel (near Ukraine mall) : a rather upscale place, but nice and with good music. Full of upper-class women aged 24/35 yo. All tables.

- Crown Bar (Intourist hotel) : THE "in" and pretentuous club of Zapo. Full packed, many gorgeous girls, but I really don t like the place.

- Platinum (near the river) : mid-level club, worth a visit maybe, I also don t like much.

- Palmira (near Banana) : a restaurant / club frequented by the local politicians, mafiosos, ect. Not bad.

- Aristokrat (Lenina) : a 24 hours restaurant in the center. Expensive, pretentuous, but most party-goers finish there at 5 am.

Some nice cafes with summer terraces (full of women. Where are the men in this city?) :

- Rozmarin, my headquarter, a very upscale italian place, gorgeous women.

- Fiesta, almost adjacent, always fully packed with women.

- Jolly Roger, on the Dniepr, great on summer, live music, often packed.

Also, what is nice in Zapo is the parks get full with girls drinking beers in summer nights, very easy to game if lower middle class young 7s / 7. 5s is your thing.Thanks for this information. I have been a couple of times in Dnepropetrovsk and girls ok. However prices for girls not too cheap and similar to Kiev but apartments are cheaper e. G USD 60. I will try this city which you recommend. But I don't speak Russian. How can I travel there from Dnepropetrovsk? Bus train taxi? Costs and time for the trip?

Prosal
09-17-13, 09:52
Dnepro is an enjoyable city indeed, admittedly much more welcoming than Zapo (that said, Zapo has its own charm).

About getting here, I can t help as GF went to pick me up at Dnepro airport with her mom s Mercedes Class E coupe.

Gergiev
09-22-13, 00:50
GF went to pick me up at Dnepro airport with her mom s Mercedes Class E coupe.Good old Prosal - always seems to land on his feet! :)

Reiner Otto
10-15-13, 21:50
Want to go there to visit the aircraft museum with the TU-160. So some hints for interesting clubs with (semi-) pros etc. In Poltava welcome, to make it worth overnight stay (s).

Prosal
10-16-13, 10:17
Want to go there to visit the aircraft museum with the TU-160. So some hints for interesting clubs with (semi-) pros etc. In Poltava welcome, to make it worth overnight stay (s).Gramofone (karaoke) , Podium, Split. There's IMO no such thing as "pros or semi-pros" in Poltava.

Prosal
10-18-13, 22:02
Zaporojie mini data-sheet. I think it will be the first data-sheet on this city in the story of internet.

Introduction

I was there to meet an internet contact so chasing girls was not my primary purpose. We meshed really well and we stayed together during the four weeks I spent in Zapo, but when she was not in town (her mother owns high-end women fashion stores and they often went to Odessa to buy stuff) I did game a few girls though. I stayed four weeks there.

Logistics

- Getting There:

Zapo is a city of about 800 000, but they have just a crappy little airport with almost no activity. Even Ukrainian Airways has stopped its flights to Zp. So you have either to fligh to Kiev and then take an overnight train, either to fligh to Dnepropetrovsk (flights via Kiev, Moscow and Vienna) and then take a train or a taxi (80 km) or a train to Zapo. I don't know what could be the cost for a taxi. Zaporojie is definitely a forgotten city off the beaten path. BTW Dnepro airport is also a little airport with no gates or jetbridges.

- Getting Around.

You'll probably spend all your time in the center. Lenina prospekt is the main avenue, and in fact is the longest avenue in Europe, with some 24 kms. The real center stretches on about 2/3 km, from the Intourist hotel to Shevshenko Park. Everything is at, at most, two blocks from Lenina, so it's very easy to navigate. Depending on the situation, you may be able to walk pretty much everywhere. If not, you have to take taxis. They don't have a meter but charge you 30 grivnas at most (2, 5). Never been overcharged once.

- Accommodation.

GF booked an apartment for me, with a girl who was professional and easy to work with. I paid about 550 for the whole stay (four weeks) for a very nice 80 square meters with views on Lenina. My advice, as in all spreaded cities, is to focus closely on location.

Eating

Surprisingly, there is many good eating options in Zapo. And as I said in my first post, it's dirty cheap. A three courses diner for two with lot of drinks (with GF we usually drank beer and vodka) costs in the best upscale venues about 40 at max. What is strange is that in trendy restaurants, clients are at 90% women. I'd recommend:

- Fish Cafe (on Lenina) : One of the most trendy cafe / restaurant in town, lot of good fish dishes, very nice outdoor terrace. Expensive by Zapo standarts. Great for dates. I dined there at least three times a week.

- Rozmarin (Shevshenko av) : My headquarter, very enjoyable summer terrace (photo in a previous post). Chic, very good italian food, and very cute young waitresses. One (honestly, the prettiest) gave me, hidden in the bill, her phone number.

- Fiesta (next to Rozmarin) : Huge summer terrace (with DJs from 5pm) on the Shevshenko park, packed (really) with girls. Decent food, great place for pre-dinner game.

- Nair (far from the center) : A chic Armenian venue, in a stylish two storeys building with courtwards, terraces, hidden corners, ect. VEry very good and very enjoyable.

- Aristokrat (on Lenina) : A pretentious place that looks like a roman temple, but open 24 hours and very "in" with party-goers. Huge summer terrace, DJ, good food.

- Pinta (Lenina) : Also a nice terrace, one of the best ukrainian restaurant in town. Delicious saussages and soups.

- Jolly Rogers : On the river, huge summer restaurant with an immense terrace, very nice, gorgeous views on the river and on Khortitsya island. Great to have a romantic quiet late lunch or diner with your GF. There is maybe a dozen of restaurants with terraces on the Dniepr by the way, but Roger is definitely the most enjoyable. There is sometimes live music at night, then the place becomes very busy. Lot of girls.

Some streets as Stalevarov (a nice tree-lined street) are filled with cafes with nice terraces, very enjoyable to have breakfast or drink a few beers.

In all places, service is simply perfect. I couldn't emphasis more about the quality of service in this part of Ukraine.

Night Venues

In Zapo, no P4P and sleazy sex-tourists (well, no tourists at all in fact). There is nonetheless a club. Banana. That the locals call "our little Kiev" and this is where sluts congregate. Drinks are a steal (vodka bottle costs 25 , Corona 3 ) , no charge for tables. Bathrooms are unisex (as everywhere in Ukraine) so it is very easy to game girls waiting in line or fixing their make-up. I fucked a girl in the toilets one night and honestly I could have had a few ONS often there, but I most often went with GF. Everyone drinks a lot but the guys are not aggressive and I've never wittnessed a brawl, but I've been involved in a fight outside with gopniki that couldn't go in. Many videos of Banana on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbpMiV2hfM

Other clubs:

- Caroussel (near the Ukraine mall) : an upscale venue, but very nice, with good live music. All tables, so difficult to open. Ratio w / m about 5/1 (no cheating). Upper-class women. 25-30 years old.

- Crown Bar (Intourist hotel) : the "in" club of Zapo for 18/22. Shitty music, too loud.

- Orbita (didn't visit)

- Music Hall (didn't visit)

We know that in Ukraine, drinking on benches or circulating with a bottle in your hand is considered as normal, so in summer the parks, squares, Lenina prospekt, ect, are FILLED, till late, with groups of girls sitting on benches drinking beer and waiting for boys to pick them up. Very easy to game. I was literally eye-fucked when I strolled around alone in the evening. But it's usually girls who don't speak a lot of english.

Impressions

You have to like the "frontier" destinations to enjoy a place like Zapo. Donetsk or Kharkov, per exemple, are much more "civilized". Zapo has a "old style FSU" atmosphere that not everyone might enjoy. Personally, I like it a lot. It's the greenest city in Ukraine BTW. Also the White God Factor works in Zapo (as in Dnepropetrovsk for that matter) much more than anywhere else I've been in Ukraine. I think anyone with moderate game, a decent wardrobe (VERY important) , and at least 10 days there could be quite successful if they focused on their goals. It's also culturally more interesting than most other East Ukraine cities. Zaporojie region and especially Khortitsya island was the largest cossack "sich". Republic- of the Russian empire.

Girls from Eastern Ukraine are simply the best (and IMO, they are even more gorgeous in Zapo and Dnepro than in Kharkov).

I'll definitely be back this spring, for a one-month stay.

Reiner Otto
10-22-13, 11:11
Gramofone (karaoke) , Podium, Split. There's IMO no such thing as "pros or semi-pros" in Poltava.thanks fo rinfo. Which is the better club, Podium or Split?

I made the experience in RF and UA, that usually in the more expensive / good clubs always some working staff for

"Special Services" available. Asking the bar tenders helps.

Prosal
10-25-13, 15:30
thanks fo rinfo. Which is the better club, Podium or Split?Honestly, I've enjoyed none of those places. Gramophone karaoke is the place I felt more comfortable, but it's not a monger spot.

Travelller
12-08-13, 08:46
Hi there,

Have recently been back in Lviv. Always a difficult place for mongers as all working girls have disappeared from the streets in the center many years ago.

This time I decided to try through one of the escort sites where you can book outcall girls for 600 grivna per hour. I tried some of the numbers, but of course nobody speaks English. So after the third phone call I tried to contact one back by message using Google Translator.

And there I went to pick the girl up from her driver. A beautiful brunette in her early twenties, some 170 cm tall, stepped out of the car. Had a brief conversation in Englsih on the way up to my flat and soon started business. Turned out she had a great body with soft large boobs and long legs which she used to embrace my body while I shagged her. Did not take long to come, and soon after it was time for her again to go.

So overall a positive Lviv experience this time, made possible by modern technology.

PM me if you like the phone number.

Prosal
12-17-13, 22:59
Zaporojie from 28 December till 7 January. PM if someone around.

Straight Flush
12-29-13, 15:48
Hi fellow mongers,

I am currently in Donetsk. I have to say the city did not meet with my expectations. Checked out Virus, Chicago, Shaktar Plaza night club etc, but was unable to find any action. Sure there were some pretty ladies dancing, but they all seem to have some boyfriends on the table busy with getting drunk.

Checked out some massage places also. But was not satisfied.

I thought myself a pro to find action in any place I go, but I am totally lost here. So any help will be much appreciated. Not looking for dating stuff just need some pro action.

I will sure to report if I find something.

Take care.

MoonshineXX
01-03-14, 14:27
Hi there,

Have recently been back in Lviv. Always a difficult place for mongers as all working girls have disappeared from the streets in the center many years ago.

This time I decided to try through one of the escort sites where you can book outcall girls for 600 grivna per hour. I tried some of the numbers, but of course nobody speaks English. So after the third phone call I tried to contact one back by message using Google Translator.

And there I went to pick the girl up from her driver. A beautiful brunette in her early twenties, some 170 cm tall, stepped out of the car. Had a brief conversation in Englsih on the way up to my flat and soon started business. Turned out she had a great body with soft large boobs and long legs which she used to embrace my body while I shagged her. Did not take long to come, and soon after it was time for her again to go.

So overall a positive Lviv experience this time, made possible by modern technology.

PM me if you like the phone number.Can you send her phone, please?

WanderTheWorld
02-24-14, 22:08
Hi fellow mongers,

I am currently in Donetsk. I have to say the city did not meet with my expectations. Checked out Virus, Chicago, Shaktar Plaza night club etc, but was unable to find any action. Sure there were some pretty ladies dancing, but they all seem to have some boyfriends on the table busy with getting drunk.

Checked out some massage places also. But was not satisfied.

I thought myself a pro to find action in any place I go, but I am totally lost here. So any help will be much appreciated. Not looking for dating stuff just need some pro action.

I will sure to report if I find something.

Take care.I will be in Donetsk in March, so any info / update would be really appreciated.

WanderTheWorld
02-25-14, 13:56
I have been doing some research and came up against this site:

http://www.wikisexguide.com/

I have checked Istanbul page for correctness and it seems correct info is given. You can find my comments here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1823-Dating-Agency-Discussions&p=1536576#post1536576

Can anyone confirm if these pages are reliable for Donetsk:

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Donetsk

http://www.slavic-companions.com/city-guides/ukraine/donetsk-sex-scene

Jojosun
03-09-14, 20:45
Hi fellow mongers,

I am currently in Donetsk. I have to say the city did not meet with my expectations. Checked out Virus, Chicago, Shaktar Plaza night club etc, but was unable to find any action. Sure there were some pretty ladies dancing, but they all seem to have some boyfriends on the table busy with getting drunk.

Checked out some massage places also. But was not satisfied.

I thought myself a pro to find action in any place I go, but I am totally lost here. So any help will be much appreciated. Not looking for dating stuff just need some pro action.

I will sure to report if I find something.

Take care.Are you still there, and did you find anything interesting there.

Jojosun
03-11-14, 15:49
So I was in Odessa all this week and left Wednesday after having fun. Went to some bars and clubs. But the scene was somewhat slow. Then discovered.

http://night.dn.ua

And went 4 nights in a row.

Guys, I am always walking to curry in a hurry on Lexington Ave. And even 20 block walk won't stop me. And I am not sure how long I would walk to get back there.

There is massages like "try out" or something. She brings herself off, then you, then wonderful massage, then second O for you. Feels like heaven and eternity, and lasts somewhat 2 hours for a hundred bucks approx. I am not so much into fucking, so this, for me, is the best ever ever ever had! Try!Read here as far back as 2011 and the only post relating to an experience in Donetsk was Doc O's.

How did you travel to Donetsk from Odessa?

Anyone here tried that massage place recently?

BTW, read the informative feedback by The Knight on Kharkov being a much better option than Donetsk but I feel Kharkov is a riskier option than Donetsk in the present climate.

WanderTheWorld
03-18-14, 02:27
I've arrived to donetsk today. I've been researching for a while now. My starting point was this site:

http://www.slavic-companions.com/city-guides/ukraine/donetsk-escorts

It has a link to here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdonetsk-x.Com%2F&act=url

The third active link leads to this site and the winner is:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://soblazn-xxx.com.ua/prostitutes/124-prostitute11.html&usg=ALkJrhjrzlBDAKEOGSZ4nAj-oXzOQQN9Tw

I am staying at Ramada hotel and I asked the guy in the lobby if I can invite escorts over and he said that they don't provide girls but if I happen to call anyone then she could come in without any problems. I tried the first phone number above they hold me on the line for 2 minutes while getting someone who can speak english. She didn't know the names posted at their website except for Nastya. She said the price was 800 Grivna because I wasn't coming to their apartment.

When Nastya came over she asked if she was "OK". I had every intention to send her back because of my previous attempts in other countries. If she wasn't pretty, blond, petite, and doesn't kiss I'd send her back. Well she was everything that I wanted and with physical qualities described at the web site. She took a quick bath, asked me to have one but since I've already had it we started caressing each other. The first photo is like 2 minutes into the game. While she was kissing she was giggling and having fun. Her lipstick was all over my face, we kissed like that for 5 minutes. Since she is so light I took her on my arms and carried her around. If I call her back again we are definitely doing this:

http://pad1.whstatic.com/images/7/7d/Ryan-Gosling-and-Rachel-McAdams.jpg

Except you know without the rain and the drama. She started sucking my dick on the bed (2nd photo edited to leave out my huge ass). We then moved on to classic missionary. I had masturbated 2 times yesterday followed with 2 more sex sessions with my lady, I am older than thirty and I thought I could hold it in. However she was above my expectations so the first session ended abruptly doing:

http://vsm.com--live.com/admin/uploads/epicsnaps.com/1339785618-Kamasutra-upgrade---Diablo-position.jpg

She layed with me for 5 minutes and then we took a break, I tried to get some energy for a second time which was much better than the first time. She started giving me a hand job. She didn't mind me fingering her while she was kissing me. This really got me turned on. She got on top and was really active. Her body seems really fragile and she can take any position that one can possible imagine. This one lasted until our 1 hour session ended.

I have recorded the first session with her, she suspected that my camera was on but did not insist on checking. It will be a personal collection that I'll keep. I have attached a couple of photos of her and she is definitely the one in the photo at the website however heavily Photoshopped. I didn't understand why she didn't want me to take photos when she has it on the website. I have to say that she looks much better in real life.

I have done something bad which most my fellow mongers might punish heavily. Since the service was too good for a low price 100 USD compared to prices in Turkey. I tipped her 15 USD. Since I'm probably going to call her back I think it is not the worst thing in the world. However I do apologize for taking such an action.

It's 3. 30 am in the morning and I couldn't sleep before making this post. I'll update with any future endeavors.

El Cubanito
03-18-14, 15:41
Hi,

Is anybody from this board presently in Kharkov? What the situation? Is there any demonstration? Russian Troops?

WanderTheWorld
03-20-14, 08:07
I tried another phone number from donestk-x: VIP Escort (050) 328-13-84. 2 girls came in 1 was blond and the other looked like Latin. I chose the blond and she sucked and layed down, not much to talk about. I sent her back as soon as I was done. It felt like I was having sex with a sex doll. Got no photos or anything, I wasn't even going to post this thing, but people should know that random escort calling can suck big time, with all that money wasted.

WanderTheWorld
03-21-14, 10:54
I took a walk to pushkin boulevard at 9 pm to see if there was any activities there according to wikisexguide. However it was freezing so I only saw a couple of kids singing a song with a guitar. I walked back, saw some restaurants that I will try at the weekend. When I got back to the hotel my friend was out smoking. We had a little chat and agreed that we should try the bar at hotel. He has seen a couple of pros just hanging out doing nothing but looking at their smartphones for hours.

As soon as I sat down I noticed 2 girls, one of them directly looking at me. It was the kind of stare that only a girl could do, because if a man does that he would get kicked out of any club in my country. As soon as my friend went to bathroom they called me to their table. It was around 10. 30, it was getting late for them and they needed a client.

The hassle started at 200 $ for 1 girl which my friend negotiated over 15 minutes. We sat at our table and blond one kept walking between 2 tables negotiating the deal. It ended with 2 girls 1 hour for 50 euros. I was amazed at his negotiation skills, he said he never does it and would only consider if it's going to be a threesome. He went upstairs and I got the details at the end of his adventure 1. 5 hour later.

Girls apparently hungry and thirsty went for the minibar and almost emptied it, eating and drinking whatever they could find. He was strict at the 1 hour thing and told them not to leave before the hour ends. Apparently the blond was ok with the setup but the prettier brunette was a bit aggressive and sulking the whole time. Girls apparently didn't kiss each other and only kissed him. Their boss calling them nonstop for every second after 30 minutes.

His response was that it was not bad for 50 euros but could have been much better if a little bit more money was spent in it, he had to work to get his money's worth but he said he had fun doing it. I don't think he will repeat the same thing again though.

Gentleman Travel
03-23-14, 16:45
Girls apparently hungry and thirsty went for the minibar and almost emptied it, eating and drinking whatever they could find. He was strict at the 1 hour thing and told them not to leave before the hour ends. Apparently the blond was ok with the setup but the prettier brunette was a bit aggressive and sulking the whole time. Girls apparently didn't kiss each other and only kissed him. Their boss calling them nonstop for every second after 30 minutes.This sounds perfectly typical. It's a pity because you see all these hot pros, and if only they would relax a bit, give better service, and be a bit more GF-like, they would get a lot more repeat business. But I have rarely found a real pro that I would repeat with. Semi-pro's, yes, sometimes.

Jojosun
03-25-14, 16:54
Please delete if not ok.

Fhttp://donetsk-x.com/forum/.

Found this link with reviews on the scene in Donetsk to be helpful, re prices, scams, recommendations. Used Google translate.

WanderTheWorld
03-25-14, 19:50
Please delete if not ok.

http://donetsk-x.com/forum/.

Found this link with reviews on the scene in Donetsk to be helpful, re prices, scams, recommendations. Used Google translate.Jojosun I gave a link to donetsk-x 3 posts down with google translate, you didn't have to search that much.

I wanted to try different agencies on donetsk-x on Monday. I tried a couple of phones on the site. Anyway here is my experience with the site:

FreeDom escort agency: no english and hung up the phone.

My usual soblazn-xxx didn't have the girl who speaks english so they hung up as well. Is it because it is Monday and everyone is tired from the weekend?

I then called erotic. At. Ua and we agreed on 1000 grivna with anal sex included. A young girl 19-20 came however she was obese so I sent her back. She could have at least warned me on the phone.

Gave a call to soblazn-xxx again and directly asked for nasta. This time I could find the english speaker on the other end of the phone. I asked about victoria who is also 19 however she said noone else on the web site was available at the time. It makes me wonder if I'm the only one who is interested in tiny, petite girls.

I just fucking love looking at her, watching her.

I was going to look for action today however drinking has become a habit in here. I don't drink much in Turkey but since I came here every day I'm drinking. I'm already drunk while writing this post so I might pass out in a while before I get to call a new girl.

WanderTheWorld
03-27-14, 08:11
Started making some phone calls last night so here is a log of events:

http://en.donetsk.natashaescort.com/826/alisa/380664065590

Music playing in background, nothing else.

http://www.easternangels.de/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=729&sid=359066535bd3e16a9bad39568d0640d1

No english.

http://www.easternangels.de/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=732&p=2385#p2385

No english.

http://en.donetsk.natashaescort.com/358/irina/380509820309

Really good english. 800 grivna, however I didn't want to waste much time risking another failure and her photos did not look real.

I ended up calling soblazn-xxx again and asked for yulia however vlad and my favorite girl nastya arrived at the door. Vlad wasn't that good looking, so I sent her back and let nastya stay for an hour. I am definitely hooked on this girl. I payed for my extras in the room so I don't think I'll be calling anyone else today.

In the morning I learned that my friend used Tango application on iphone and started talking with some locals. One of the girls was a hairdresser and said she might be able to have a drink with him if she can finish work early but she couldn't. An extremely cute girl found him and started talking however she had a boyfriend and didn't want to come at the end. He showed me her photo on facebook and on tango and my god she looks like a goddess. If he had some more time I think he'd have made something out of it. I guess tango is a perfect application to find out local girls if you have some time to kill.

Jojosun
03-27-14, 16:48
Jojosun I gave a link to donetsk-x 3 posts down with google translate, you didn't have to search that much.Was looking for a Swingers Club or Swingers parties for couples in Donetsk when the link in Russian came up. Didn't remember or it didn't register in my mind at the time it was the same.

Wasn't looking for escorts in Donetsk.

Anyway, the nearest Swingers club my Donetsk girl found is in Sevastopol of all places.

I would rather Swing from a tree.

Jacher
04-26-14, 07:48
Is anybody can provide info where to go in Lviv to find some action?

First I want find club when is possible to find some freebies.

If not such a place some old fasion brothel is fine too.)

Irish Lad
04-26-14, 13:05
Is anybody can provide info where to go in Lviv to find some action?

First I want find club when is possible to find some freebies.

If not such a place some old fasion brothel is fine too.) Fashion club is a nice restaurant / club in the centre. Many girls there unattached.

TheKnight
05-11-14, 00:22
Fashion club is a nice restaurant / club in the centre. Many girls there unattached.Ha! I remember it well. Not quite as easy as Moda Bar in Kyiv used to be though! Always went there before R. Palace in the bad old days!

Uke Boy
05-15-14, 18:35
For those who in the past looked forward to Kazantip, the recent events in Crimea has created a change of venue.

Kazantip, which this year will be held from July 31 through August 14 is moving to Alania, Georgia.

Yes, Georgia. No longer will it be in Ukraine, at least for this year.

Prosal
05-16-14, 07:47
For those who in the past looked forward to Kazantip, the recent events in Crimea has created a change of venue.

Kazantip, which this year will be held from July 31 through August 14 is moving to Alania, Georgia.Must be Anaklia. Sounds like a good idea, given the location with Batumi airport at some 50 kilometers. That said, it's a bit surprising, Georgia being a rather conservative country. You even risk a fine (50 laris) if you kiss in public. I mean if you kiss in the street.

Iceberg27
05-16-14, 15:12
For those who in the past looked forward to Kazantip, the recent events in Crimea has created a change of venue.

Kazantip, which this year will be held from July 31 through August 14 is moving to Alania, Georgia.

Yes, Georgia. No longer will it be in Ukraine, at least for this year.I bet it will be occupied many Turks because you even don't need a visa to enter Georgia.

So better to avoid. I was in it last year in Evpatoria. It was a disappointment. It's a good if you bring your own girl.
BR.

Misterxxx
06-19-14, 09:04
for those who in the past looked forward to kazantip, the recent events in crimea has created a change of venue.

kazantip, which this year will be held from july 31 through august 14 is moving to alania, georgia.

yes, georgia. no longer will it be in ukraine, at least for this year.no alania. no georgia. no kazantip. not this year.

bombing for peace is like [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) for love!

we can't celebrate love and happiness while our brothers and sisters, no matter if russians or ukrainians, get killed.

therefore kazantip 2014 takes a time-out and won't be held this summer. (http://kazantip.com).

Muevelo
07-27-14, 21:09
Is anybody can provide info where to go in Lviv to find some action?

First I want find club when is possible to find some freebies.

If not such a place some old fasion brothel is fine too.)You find anything worth mentioning? I have been to Fashion before and didn't get much luck for that night; I did leave with a phone number but unfortunately, I was also leaving the next day and because of the unrest in the East I have been limited on my travels to there. I'll be back soon.

Casanova ended up meeting 2 ladies that were there on a "ladies weekend out" away from husbands. Game on. Think a better chance to find strays are at Casanova as there were many groups that came in there of mixed gender. Who would have thought to pick up a girl to just go to a strip club.

The Starhorod is a good place to start your weekend on a Wednesday (Fashion on Thursday). Just make sure you go into the men's restroom by the coat check (when you enter), and take a look at the last 'shitter door' closest to the urinal. Your mind is your only limitation in Ukraine. One of the best nights of Ukraine existed in that bar. Girls dancing on the tables, you can dance on the tops; and then you can meet a girl in the last "shitter" stall.

Fashion. Go on Thursday and dress well. Go on Tuesday and reserve a table for Thursday night; cost about 200 UAH; have fun.

Jacher
08-31-14, 20:28
You find anything worth mentioning? I have been to Fashion before and didn't get much luck for that night; I did leave with a phone number but unfortunately, I was also leaving the next day and because of the unrest in the East I have been limited on my travels to there. I'll be back soon.

Casanova ended up meeting 2 ladies that were there on a "ladies weekend out" away from husbands. Game on. Think a better chance to find strays are at Casanova as there were many groups that came in there of mixed gender. Who would have thought to pick up a girl to just go to a strip club.

The Starhorod is a good place to start your weekend on a Wednesday (Fashion on Thursday). Just make sure you go into the men's restroom by the coat check (when you enter), and take a look at the last 'shitter door' closest to the urinal. Your mind is your only limitation in Ukraine. One of the best nights of Ukraine existed in that bar. Girls dancing on the tables, you can dance on the tops; and then you can meet a girl in the last "shitter" stall.

Fashion. Go on Thursday and dress well. Go on Tuesday and reserve a table for Thursday night; cost about 200 UAH; have fun.Thanks.

I will check all your tips. We plan to visit Lviv in September. I will write report after visit.

Regards.

Jacher.

Jacher
09-30-14, 10:52
You find anything worth mentioning? I have been to Fashion before and didn't get much luck for that night; I did leave with a phone number but unfortunately, I was also leaving the next day and because of the unrest in the East I have been limited on my travels to there. I'll be back soon.

Casanova ended up meeting 2 ladies that were there on a "ladies weekend out" away from husbands. Game on. Think a better chance to find strays are at Casanova as there were many groups that came in there of mixed gender. Who would have thought to pick up a girl to just go to a strip club.

The Starhorod is a good place to start your weekend on a Wednesday (Fashion on Thursday). Just make sure you go into the men's restroom by the coat check (when you enter), and take a look at the last 'shitter door' closest to the urinal. Your mind is your only limitation in Ukraine. One of the best nights of Ukraine existed in that bar. Girls dancing on the tables, you can dance on the tops; and then you can meet a girl in the last "shitter" stall.

Fashion. Go on Thursday and dress well. Go on Tuesday and reserve a table for Thursday night; cost about 200 UAH; have fun.As I promise after visiting Lviv I post my report.

First of all we start our trip to Ukraine from Dniepropietrovsk from Sunday and we stay till Tuesday when we have flight to Lviv.

In Dniepropietrovsk we have no so much action all clubs we visit was almost empty in this days.

In Tuesday in Lviv we simply rest after our trip from Dniepropietrovsk. In wedensday we go to club MI100 its mix of diferent entertainment they have restaurant with possibility of live music there is billard room and most important they have go-go club. This was not our first visit there so some girls remember us and even they have guests they come to say Hello, . As I know good one of them I take her for privat dance 249 UAH (15,3 EUR) as damage is not big and servis whose very good I take her 3 or 4 times for dance. I know privat dances from Poland but in MI100 it was more personal and more erotic experience (I don't know it was only for me or it is usuall but previos time with different girl it wasnt so good). So we ended 3 AM and I have phone number from this girl and promise that we meet next day in evning in the city. As next day was thrusday our last day in Ukraine we go to Fashion Club and Muevelo has right this day is best for hunting or tu be hunted because is day that girls have free entry and they come for "fishing" .

But unfortunetly we have some friends from Ukraine and they invite girls and it was bad info for us because we can't hunt. But at the midnight my "girlfriend" from MI100 came to see with me and we spend whole night at talk and little flirt we don't end in bed but afterall its not bad info I think that she will be my "girl" in Lviv and I know that I will travel lot for bussines in this direction so everything could happen in future.

Summarized: Ukraine is friendly country even in this hard times is not expensive. To find WG is harder but not impossible (we saw sites with WGs but most of them was from Kiev) but if you like more hunting its definitly good place.

More info will come after our next visit.

Regards.

Jacher.

Etaoin2003
05-30-15, 15:23
Any advice regarding Chernigov? Kyiv seems to have quite a bit of easy access including erotic massage, but the Internet is failing me to the north and I have taught myself not to trust taxi drivers.


I did find one strip club but it also serves as a host for wedding receptions, which seems odd.

Etaoin2003
07-09-15, 05:26
Found and visited Afrodita, which is an erotic massage salon in Chernihiv. Service consists of body kisses, oily body slide erotic massage, handjob and finally conventional massage. All were expertly administered There is absolutely no sex or even touching or licking the juicy parts, as I have been permitted in Russia. The salon is in a fairly new single-story residence in a good part of town, centrally located, hidden from view by a high fence, as are many Ukrainian residences. It's spotless inside. Website is http://www.afrodita.cn.ua/ and the photos of the girls are real. I spent 90 minutes with Karina for 600 grivnas, which is about $28 US at the new crazy exchange rate.

Gergiev
07-11-15, 22:48
Found and visited Afrodita, Website is http://www.afrodita.cn.ua/ and the photos of the girls are real. I spent 90 minutes with Karina for 600 grivnas, which is about $28 US at the new crazy exchange rate.Well done and full marks for intrepidity!

Thank you for reporting back...

Tomek123
10-12-15, 18:41
This is my account of 7 or 8 visit to this 280 000 peoples city in the north-east of Ukraine. In the social sense, a city full of shit even for a poor country like Ukraine. But here I have a lot of old and new friends.

After Kharkiv city Sumy just a large poor village. But the girls are amazingly beautiful. Dominated by the blonde and light-brown and brown-haired. Maybe it's the influence of Russia?. But there is also the famous Ukrainian hot type brunette with brown eyes a-la,Natalka, . Of course. Girls surprisingly thin and tall, bright little pale skin and many girls have gray and green and blue eyes. But they kept very proudly, they look a bit cold and unapproachable. Sometimes it is a little ridiculous)) They will not smile at you in the street as the Kharkov and Dnipropetrovsk and other big city girls. The city is oriented not only to Kiev but also in Moscow. The city is a supplier and exporter of quality nice pussy 8 -9 for.

For,corporate events, in Moscow (probably because the rich Russian love laconic and cold girls? And as well as for modeling agencies for example for impressions in China (after impressions escort with rich Chinese) etc.

The sex industry in the city is very weak. Foreigners in the city not so much as Kharkov. The city almost dead industry. Work for men is very small. So the girls do not want to risk their reputation for little money. Maybe they do not want gossip. But common hidden prostitution among the beautiful young girls 16-18-22 years in style,I am not a prostitute, e I have a wealthy sponsor,.

While many of the girls have but poor BF.

I can recommend to people who are a little adventurers.

Or speak a little Russian and Ukrainian. Or know how to use Vkontakte or another resurs.

I apologize for laconism. Later write a little bit more.