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raccoon
07-11-02, 19:00
“Sharia law” prohibits prostitution in Saudi Arabia. If you or/and your partner is married, then the punishment will be stoning to death. This is not true if one of the following cases is true: if you are US/UK or any of the “great” countries’ citizen, you are from the “big guys society” or you have a friend in the “big guys society” or someone in the “big guys society” likes you or finally you are a “big” businessman. Only in the previous cases the god my forgive you and you could be released leaving your partner to his dark destiny.
What I mentioned above doesn’t mean that there is no prostitution in Saudi Arabia. Actually because of repression girls are much easier to seduce. I know one guy in Jeddah. One day in his house and while we were drinking he told me that some one is coming today to see me, and that was about 12pm. After about one hour, two young Arab girls 15 and 17 years old came into the house. I really didn’t expect that I would get laid in Saudi Arabia. But it seems I get laid with Saudi girl, which is a privilege. We spend really good time with them and it was really very strange experience cause the girls were very young and very nervous. It took from me sometime to make her feel not really relaxed because she really wasn’t but being able to adjust to this new situation for her. I tried to give her some wine, which really helped. My friend actually didn’t even try to talk to his girl. He just took her to other room then I couldn’t hear anything except scream. He told me that girls in his country usually don’t set with men except their father and brothers. They don’t even know how their cousins look like! I really don’t know how he managed to hunt these two girls. But this doesn’t mean that I recommend doing that if you had the chance to, cause it’s really risky. To do this you should trust the inviter and make sure that he has really good relations with “someone” before accepting such invitation. And again be very careful when doing this in Saudi Arabia and remember the stoning punishment to death if you are poor guy or from poor country.

redsealover
08-01-02, 21:06
Yes, there is prostitution is Saudi. However, there is also a lot of free sex. Even with the Saudi ladies. Some are married. Some are not. Just go to any place where the ladies shop and while you are walking around look them in the eye. It seems that one in about 20 will respond. Make sure that you have your mobile number ready and see if you can get it to them. Often you can pull it out so they see it and just leave it on a table or counter. If they are really interested they will call you. You will end up talking to them several times before you can get anything going. Once they feel comfortable talking invite them to your flat. If they come they are coming for one reason and one reason only -- to fuck. I have picked up a lot of women this way. Some in their late teens all the way to in their late 30's. (I am 50.) The youngest that I ever got was married to a much older man who had three other wives. She had somehow gotten knocked up by this old man but did not like it. She was about 7 months pregnant and was a great fuck. The unmarried ladies were all divorced. It is almost impossible to get a never married lady to your flat. It is expected that they will bleed on their wedding night, so they don't fuck before then, but after then -- oh my god!

Mishal
08-02-02, 01:27
Originally posted by redsealover
Yes, there is prostitution is Saudi. However, there is also a lot of free sex. Even with the Saudi ladies. Some are married. Some are not. Just go to any place where the ladies shop and while you are walking around look them in the eye. It seems that one in about 20 will respond. Make sure that you have your mobile number ready and see if you can get it to them. Often you can pull it out so they see it and just leave it on a table or counter. If they are really interested they will call you. You will end up talking to them several times before you can get anything going. Once they feel comfortable talking invite them to your flat. If they come they are coming for one reason and one reason only -- to fuck. I have picked up a lot of women this way. Some in their late teens all the way to in their late 30's. (I am 50.) The youngest that I ever got was married to a much older man who had three other wives. She had somehow gotten knocked up by this old man but did not like it. She was about 7 months pregnant and was a great fuck. The unmarried ladies were all divorced. It is almost impossible to get a never married lady to your flat. It is expected that they will bleed on their wedding night, so they don't fuck before then, but after then -- oh my god!

I dont believe you.

Its not as easy as you make it sound pal! Mall hopping and looking for girls is a hit and miss activity where 99% of the time you will MISS!

Also, 99% of the guys are doing it so that really spreads your chances thin!

If you know about available pros or women, that would love to screw for money or for fun or both, then post info on that here. OR email me mishal@lycos.com

JamesBond69
08-02-02, 01:43
>I dont believe you.

Having never been to Saudi Arabia (my field of expertise is South America) I don't know enough to believe or not believe you but I must say your posts, if true, are incredible.

Anymore info on this would be most welcome.

Mishal
08-05-02, 10:16
Well, here is some new info regarding info:

I have found a group on Yahoo called dubaisheaven. It has restircted membership and they claim to have a lot of info on the sex scene in Dubai, UAE, and Middle East. I havent been able to check it out but if anyone knows about it then pls let me know at mishal@lycos.com

I am really disappointed at this board. Looks like the Saudi section will always remain without info :(

Rene02
09-12-02, 15:56
Hey, I've already posted info in the previous board... I could manage to have a prostitute in Jeddah. I won't write the same story again... so check the archive about my experience in Jeddah. You go on Intercontinental hotel and ask the concierge for 'fun' with nice women. It is a bit risky, yes, but good.

Mishal
10-23-02, 20:33
Well, here is some new info regarding info:

I have found another group on Yahoo called The Real Deal in KSA. It has restircted membership for those who are willing to share each others knowledge and they claim to have a lot of info on the sex scene in Saudi Arabia.

http://*************************TheRealDealInKSA/


I am STILL really disappointed at this board. Looks like the Saudi section will always remain without info :(

LukeSkyWanker
10-29-02, 20:29
Hi all shit has happened I have to spend 2-3 weeks here starting 4th November and I know Ramadan starts on the 6th any suggestions on entertainment would be welcome. Camels will not be considered as I am allergic to animals.

LukeSkyWanker
10-29-02, 20:37
I would like to know if it is possible and reasonably cheap to fly from Saudi to Bangkok for a weeks holiday after 2-3 weeks in Saudi it maybe very tempting. The names or web addresses of any good travel agents would be welcome I also assume it will be quite cheap to fly to Dubai which should be okay even in Ramadan. Cheers all.

Mishal
10-30-02, 08:51
Go for Dubai mate! closer and better....

BUT in Ramadan a lot of stuff happens here as everyone becomes nocturnal. Either they get fully religious or fully hedonistic ;)

MKH
11-08-02, 16:14
i am soon going to settle in saudi arabia. i have a choice to get settled in riyadh or in dammam. please advice me which one of the following is a friendly city as far as getting the girl is concerned and what types of adult entertainments are available there.

thanks in advance.

MKH

DogDays
11-08-02, 18:42
Adult entertainment in saudi Arabia?Man you need to think hard about settling in Saudi Arabia if your thing is adult entertainment because there is nothing like that in that country and if they happen to catch you having sex you gonna be weep hundred times or be stoned to death

ExpatCat
11-09-02, 05:06
MKH.
You're obviously thinking about the money you'll get being in a dump like Saudi. Riyadh by all accounts has a thriving social life . . . (within concentration-type expat compounds). If you're prepared to 'do-it-yourself' and muck in with other expats you may stand a chance. Remember that there are no cinemas, no nightlife, no fun and plenty of Muttawa (religious police who are serious fundamentallists and nasty with it). Damman on the Gulf side of the kingdom is close to Bahrain to escape for a weekend. Once the present crackdown abates in Bahrain it can be a pleasant place. During Ramadan the whole gulf seems to close down during the day. BTW it is worth bearing in mind that if you locate in Riyadh you'll probably have to get permission to move ANYWHERE. You cant' just drive to Dahran for a day trip, or go for a diving excursion in Jeddah. Your movements are restricted.
Just a thought. . . .
Good luck in what you do. Be prepared for trips to Dubai (closest) or Thailand (just as interesting as ever) to unwind every few months.

redsealover
11-23-02, 18:02
what do you mean you can't travel in saudi? all travel restrictions have been lifted, and there never was any real problem for westerners. you can drive across the desert from Jeddah to Riyadh to Al Khobar with no problems what so ever. there is plenty to do in all cities if you know where to go. the first thing to do is to meet other westerners who have been there a while. networking is everything in saudi. there is plenty of prostitution there if you know where to look. also the saudi women can be fucked as well. it ain't easy and yes you do have to be careful, but it can be done. i have picked up more than one saudi lady. all arrangements are made by mobile and they take a taxi to your place. just keep trying and you will get laid. Oh, and don't over look the filipinna maids and nurses. remember pussy is pussy.

Mishal
02-24-03, 19:01
redsealover and ExpatCat,

I would appreciate it if you two contact me on my email

mishal@lycos.com

I am an expat and would like to discuss a few matters if thats ok.

BJtemp
03-22-03, 02:44
Anyone at least has some links to pictures of Arabic babes?

Thanks.

LukeSkyWanker
07-07-03, 19:46
I am very pissed off I have to visit Saudi (Al-Khobar) again very soon can anybody give me a few pointers on finding some meat while I am there. Obviously it is not the place to post explicit info regarding Saudi but if anybody reads this and can contribute I will post my Email, suggestions like stay on the plane to Dubai are not helpful even though they are true I have good dreams of take aways from Cyclone. I have just returned recently from Pattaya I am going from one Extreme to another sob sob sob.

Mishal
07-09-03, 09:22
Luke,

Send me an email, my addy is on the board.

Vinnie1369
07-21-03, 21:16
Trust me Luke. If there was a piece to be had anywhere this side of the Bridge I would have sniffed it out and plowed it but good already. But there is no such thing in this giant sandbox from hell! Dude just spend the 500 rips(Saudi Riyal) and get the Multiple Exit/Re-entry Visa and go to Bahrain on the weekends. Call Sahab Car Service and ask for Iqball or something like that. Well call him eightball. Tell him the guys from Jadawel City sent you. It costs like 250 rips one way with Iqball but 300 with normal Sahab drivers.

There are a few places in Bahrain to look for chicks but not nearly as easy as it was before Ramadan of 2002. Apparently the Bahraini's decided, in their "infinite stupidity!" to chase out all the good Russian tail. I hate this region and hope the US gets smart and just builds a nice oil pipeline and lets the B-52 drivers pretend it is Operation Linebacker III. LOL

Well, that is enough ranting for me tonight. Rough day at work in this sandtrap so I am irritable from lack of action.

LukeSkyWanker
07-22-03, 20:19
Cheers Vinnie for that daunting piece of info, I have managed to postpone my visit for another week I am considering getting sick like catching something to stop me travelling maybe if I tell them my best friend is a SARS victim. I read a report last week on the Bahrain section about the Bahrain international hotel I may spend a night there before crossing the Stix if it is OK at least I can call in when I come back from prison. I spend quite a lot of time in Maracaibo you want to give it a try it is easy to get to from the states (well Caracas is anyway) there is a little village just outside Ciudad Ojeda about 3/4 hr from Maracaibo it is called Cabimas, hows this for a statistic they have had 7 miss Worlds.

Vinnie1369
07-23-03, 22:16
Hey Luke,

Literally seconds before reading your post I just booked at room at Phoecia Hotel for the night of Thursday the 31st of July. I read a post from some guy (JP2U) who posted right after me and I booked a room right then requesting the 4th floor A wing. LOL

If you can make it let me know and maybe we can hook up and have a beer together. I usually go with my friend Chris but I have determined he is the source of my bad luck in Bahrain. So, going it alone this time and see what happens.

Keep me posted on your coming and going and I will see if I can match a day so we can hook up.

Dude, if you are there alone check out BJ's. The dance club is a hottie factory. Get there before midnight and just hang out and wait. Before midnight it is real slow but DEFINITELY PICKS UP AND IS WALL 2 WALL. If you wait too long you will never get in because the door is jammed.

LukeSkyWanker
08-05-03, 21:05
Thanks for the info Vinnie only just read your report I didn't stay in Bahrain I managed to get to Dubai (see report in Dubai section) if I had read your report sooner we could have met up or I think I would have tried Bahrain. Once again sorry for not checking the forum more regularly, the 31st I spent in the Regents Palace Dubai.

Vinnie1369
08-26-03, 22:56
Hey Luke,

I am planning a Bahrain trip in the next week or two. Let me know if you wanna hook up or something.

vinnie1369@hotmail.com put "WSG-Luke" in the subject

Rene02
01-14-04, 14:14
just back from Jeddah, still the same deal with the concierge at Intercontinental, however it has become much more expensive than before...

Got an Egyptian this time, and was not such a great time, but for this country, there is not much more to expect.

TravelMen
01-14-04, 16:51
Rene

Can you give some more info on the intercont.

How old was she, and how attractive?

I heard the Sheraton can get Saudi's for you. Not sure about the quality though.

Rene02
01-15-04, 11:29
Guys,
I received a few private messages from some of you, therefore I decided to briefly reply here.

I had posted my experience on the forum like 2 years ago, but looks like it has been deleted or archived somewhere.

At the Intercontinental, where I stayed like 15 times for the last 5 years, I could manage to have the conciere organizing me a trip to see women. It happened 3 times, even if once it failed.

The first time he made an appointment for me, a guy picked me up, and brought me to a crappy appartment. Was kind of scared but it went alright. An Egyptian woman, like 6/10, but nice time and relaxing when staying 1 month in this country. 2nd time it failed as the guy in the car wanted an extra 400 riyals... out of question !
Last month it worked again, I could be driven safely to a place out of town, nead a foreign coumpound. I could stay 2 hours, even had lamb and beer there ! Paid a lot, 600 SR total... 400 for the guy/ girl, 100 for the concierge and a tip.

Enjoy.

In One Life
01-18-04, 19:52
Hi Rene,

Can you send me more info about this Egyptian? I'm intersted to contact with her. 1000 S.R is not a money comparing travelling to another country.

Thank you

Rene02
01-22-04, 11:36
Re: need more details
Safety is the most important I agree, you have to be careful in this country even if there are many things we can enjoy, luxurious goods, food... they are not very friendly regarding sex and alcoohol...

It took me a while before I could manage to get that girls. I went to the pool of the Intercontinental, men only, and started to chat everyday whit an indonesian guy working there to collect bath towels. I finally said that I needed a woman, as it was difficult for me to stay a month without even beeing able to masturbate in front of a half-naked picture of Kylie Minogue! The guy could not do anything for me, he said it was dangerous, etc... but we talked loud and another guy came to me saying he could do something, but I did not trust him...
Finally, and to make it short, I used to spend lot of time in the cafe and the loundge drinking 'Saudi Champagne', having people coming to ask me if I wanted something every single minute. I was treated well, got the hotel reward program, etc.... so they took care of me.
The concierge came to me several time, his name was something like Hammut, came from Indonesia has well. I told him I needed a woman, but he laughted, and after a while he said he could do something for me but should keep it secret. I waited for a couple of days and someone came to me to tell me the deal was complete. Was a risky business, as I end up in someone's car driving to nowhere, they could have killed be and sold my organs! But I needed sex... at the plce it was very safe, freindly, so no issue at the end.
Just need to take a lot of time to trust people.

TravelMen
01-22-04, 12:49
Rene 02

Please can you give details on her?
Was it a good experience? How old was she? Look etc

I heard there are a few Philipinas about too.

Rene02
01-22-04, 15:30
Filipinas I do not know... as they are normally Christian and in order to stay most of the Asian women come for the Hajh and stay, meaning they are muslim.

They should be some indonesian. They are some cleaning lady in foreign coumpound who may do things, but I guess they are rather old...

The Egyptian, first time, was early 30, she said 27 but I think she was 32-33... Good experience, she was nice, not talkative but some skills for sex. However not bery good blowjob. In this country, nice time however.
The 2nd experience was pretty similar, the girl was younger, like 20, but hairy.... anyway they do not shave in this country.

I am back to Jeddah in 2 months so maybe we can arrange something together as well.

ChefDog
01-23-04, 04:29
Rene,

Are you so sure about the unshaven pussies? My Saudi experiences (several decades ago) were quite the reverse.

Chef

Rene02
01-23-04, 09:04
No I am not sure.... as I have never had a Saudi woman in my bed ;)
However , talking about the Egyptian young ladies I had, and maybe the indonesian, and even the African (somalia, mali, niger where they are muslim) I do think they don't shave.

Still I am a 'saudi pussy virgin' but would love to undress one of those pretty women one day.

Lebanese, muslim, who I had, had unshaved pussies. At the end I do not care so much. I loved shaved pussies a while ago, now I do not care, I just want it to smell good and clean. I sometimes lick, sometimes I do not.

BC Tim
01-23-04, 09:17
While I was in Jeddah from 94 to 2002. I had sex with several Saudi Ladies. Usually picked them up or they picked me up in Herra Souk. Then it was back to my coumpound that I usually had to haid them to get them inside. Yes, They do shave that area. As when that Abbai comes off you are getting laid. One girl Sammara, would only do it in the ass as she was saving herself for her future husband. The Saudi women that I had did not do oral on me, and did not want me to do it to them until I had convinced one lady that she would like it and she did.

Well that is my input on this.

Thanks,

Ken.

Rene02
02-10-04, 09:13
well... fine...

I just would recommend to everyone to be very careful. Take time before accepting any kind of sollicitation. It took me days to be in touch with the concierge, and yet I was still not 100% sure i would not finish in jail or worse... loose my head.

T Poet
02-23-04, 06:18
Desperate in Saudia.

I am an ex-pat living in an area called Ghaseem I am in desperate need of something a contact, anything, Rubbing my legs on the cactuses gets old. Anyway if anyone knows of anything out this way toward Riyadh, Northwest province I appreciate it greatly your starving wannabe monger comrade.

T Poet

Rene02
02-25-04, 08:19
Having a friend who has just came back from Jeddah and Riyad, it seems that it is even more difficult than before to get a woman then (and it was already very very very difficult).

He started to talk to guys at the pool, the loundge of the hotel, then someone came to his room to 'investigate' as it semt he asked to many questions about meeting woman. He got so scared !

Good luck guys, I am happy my trip to Jeddah has been canceled... will to go FK club in Germany instead.

Mighty Spearsman
03-08-04, 22:26
If you check out my name on the left of this post, you'll see that I'm one of the many serious posters here on WSG, not someone who just posts once or twice, so I hope that the regulars here take my request seriously.

I'll be going to Riyadh for a week in mid-April, so I stopped by here to check out the scene. I've just spent several minutes reading the board here and find that there isn't much info - no real surprise because of the location and culture. I realize that everything is kept under covers in this country and that the chances of being with a local girl are less than zero, but that's ok, that's not what I'm looking for.

I do know that there are pro's in Saudi Arabia, most likely Africans and Filapinas, so how does one hook up with them?

If you don't wish to post any info here, please feel free to PM me. Any constructive comments (even a "forget about it" comment) are appreciated. Thanks!

Rene02
03-09-04, 17:52
I have heard Riyahd is more open than Jeddah (less muslim visiting for the Haj...).

As I have done in Jeddah, try to establish good relationship with concierge at the hotel and people living in the counpounds.

But in all cases: Be careful !

Eric T
03-10-04, 15:20
Mighty Spearsman,

Its very hard in Saudi BUT it depends how long your tenure is and where would you be staying. Also depends on your looks (are you Westerner/Caucasian, Asian, or look Indian/Pakistani) Are your hosts eager to please you and how much will they go out of their way to do so etc.

Since you'd be in Riyadh for a wk only, I believe you'd be in a hotel. This eliminates chances of you hooking up at a western compound (unless you get party invites to the same.)

That leaves you in hotels and the old trial and error way of the "concierge connection"

If you look distinctly caucasian, then you have a chance with the mall hunting game. But in itself it is a hit-n-miss game.

In a nutshell, you will have to find out when you get here, see what are your options, weigh them, then strategise. In the end, you might just have to go high and dry. Wish you good luck mate.

Eric

Bulldog67
03-12-04, 12:38
Mighty Spearsman,

I agree with Eric, your best bet is if your hosts want to impress you.

I live in the Eastern Province, which is the most tolerant of all the areas in Saudi Arabia. There are thousands of Indian, Filipina, and Bangladeshi women here, but the risks are just too great for them to engage in the oldest profession. At the very least, they would be flogged and deported if caught, and being stoned to death is still a very real possibility here.

I suggest that you try to arrange your itinerary to spend some time in Europe, Dubai, or Bahrain while in transit, and don’t take the risk while in Saudi Arabia.

Swamp Rat

JustSumFun
03-18-04, 12:52
Mighty Spearsman
I do know that there are pro's in Saudi Arabia, most likely Africans and Filapinas, so how does one hook up with them? Hello mate. How are you doing. Sorry for butting into this thread which I have not much information about. But recently I was in a cab here in dubai and the cabbie was the talkative type. He told me that he was from KSA. We noticed a few sexy CIS waiting to cross the road and I commented that such things must be rare in Saudi arabia. He said everything in Saudi arabia is hush hush and there were a lot of private houses where you can find action. You just need to find a knowledgable cabbie. Though it might be dangerous asking an unknown cabbie, that is perhaps an easy way of finding the action. That is the impression I got. However, having said that, I am completely ignorant about the scene there except what I read here on this thread. Just my two cents worth.

Hey Eric long time no pm. How are things with you mate. And when do we meet ??

Justfun

Eric T
03-20-04, 08:10
well guys,

i missed the cabbie advice but here's my take on it: if you look westerner, the cabbie (if he knows anything) will confide. if you look like an indian/pakistani/asian then they clam up (with the added fear that you may be cid).

so if you have the yank/euro looks then ask a cabbie (who shouldnt look obviously religious eg long beard, older aged etc) from what i've heard on the grapevine, look for younger types in new model cabs, and they definitely should be carrying a cell phone. no cell means they dont have connections/clients (whether legit kind or not, for your sake, not)

regarding the action here, yes there is definitely, but like jsf said, its very hush hush. thats why i said that it will depend on how much your host wants to make you happy. for a short term visitor that counts a lot. for a long term/resident what matters most is what you look like, do you have $$, whats your nationality, what circles do you have access to, do you live on a compund, and what language(s) you speak.

arabs, connected ones, know where it is. higher mgmt/rich types will definitely know either by direct on indirect means. direct here meaning theyre clients and indirect is when they know someone who can arrange something.

hope that helps.

jsf, been a silent lurker mate, enjoy your posts always. not sure when we be able to have those brewskis but im hoping in a month or two if not then in summer definitely. will surely pm you when something's solid. will 'plan' my trip like the last time so max benifit of limited time is taken.

eric

Rene02
03-22-04, 14:59
I am a white man, and I have tried the cabbie way... Each time I had a drive with a cabbie, the driver was asking me where I came from (I lied), what I was doing here, etc... and he said he knows women and I could get some, etc. But it never turned to be true, in fact I felt I could not trust those guys, and was scared if he drove me somewhere in a very crap and dangerous place.

So I finally trusted the hotel concierge, but here again, can be a hit or a miss, and can be a scary experience.

Eric T
03-23-04, 09:04
Rene02: Well thats the other side of the coin. The way I see it, you have already taken a good sized risk once you've decided for p4p in KSA. How much you want to indulge from there onwards is a matter of going higher. You're correct to point out the cabbie risk, but even if youre being conned, it will be for the money. I see it as a rarity that they would want to land you in bigger trouble than that. As far as scared of being driven to a shady place is concered, order take out ie outcall rather than looking for incall. Of course thats a problem for those who dont have a place, but those on a compound or in a hotel shouldnt be worried.

Above is not to say that what you said is wrong, simply stating that the risk you highlighted is a given.

Eric

Eric T
04-13-04, 15:19
Hi fellas,

Thought I’d share with you a recent p4p experience I had. Just to let you know some context, I have pretty much quit on looking for p4p in Riyad simply because of my own limitations of time and place. Hence I enjoy the hobby out of KSA as and when it can be done.

That being said, I recently had someone propose to me the whole nine yards. That is: a place, a lady, etc… All I had to do was to be there. So I said why not? The guy who was doing it also wasn’t directly involved so it was the proverbial friend of the friend case.

So I go to the eastern province where I was told everything was ready. I was taken to this house where the girl was waiting. So after my intro to the madam, the friend of the friend makes some small talk and then the madam goes in to get the girl. I didn’t have my hopes too high from the start and was mentally ready to be given a 5/10. Though I thought I was ready for a shocker but what walked in was still a let down. She was mid twenties, 4/10 face, 5/10 body. She was an Arab. The money had exchanged hands and I was at the no return point.

Before the two (friend of friend and madam) leave us to our business, I asked the madam how much time had I bought. She says as long as I want.

‘Good,’ I thought.

So we get out of our clothes and after some small talk, she gives me a bbbj which was surprisingly good. A not so good 69 followed and then we get on to the main event. She was a little tight. So I gathered that she wasn’t a pro-pro but an amateur-pro. 10 mins down the clock and I hear a baby crying somewhere in the apartment and this girl visibly nervous about it. It was her 5 month old kid.

So now she goes in overdrive and just about trying her hardest to make me come ASAP. Her efforts get harder and harder, I finally decide to be over with it and shortly afterwards, I was.

She makes some more small talk, and then apologizes and says she’s got to go because she has to calm the kid down. I was pretty angry because that isn’t the default explanation of ‘as long as I want.’

We dress, she leaves, comes in the madam and the friend of the friend and I told him that this is a rip off etc. Madam apologizes, says kid was the factor for the less time provided, and promises the moon and the stars for the next time. We leave.

Monetary damage: 500 for the girl, 200 for the place, 200 for the madam. That’s 900 Riyals. A waste surely. But since this contact was being tried out the first time so it was an unknown and I was mentally ready just to get the foot in the door. Friend of the friend says madam will definitely make up for it the next time with better girl, better place and an all nighter.

Will keep you guys posted.

Eric

Mighty Spearsman
04-15-04, 15:15
Thanks to Eric T, Rene02, JustSumFun and Swamp Rat for your comments, and thanks also for the PMs I received from various mongers.

I'll be in Riyadh soon for one week, and it looks as if it will be a quiet week. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky; if not, then I'm glad that I'm only there for one week. At the very least, I hopefully will be having a cup of coffee with one or more fellow WSGers.

Thanks again!

T Poet
04-20-04, 23:22
Hey eric man,

I need something here getting ready to travel but it would benice to get a piece (hopefully cheaper than what you did) before I go. Any leads?

TP

Grestal
04-27-04, 10:32
well just few words from my experiences in ksa. a lot of fellow members already stated who difficult is to gait laid in that shity country. the things are not just difficult but dangerous as well. for more than ten years i was dealing with their hospital supplies and i can tell you for sure that the rich members of the royal family can do what ever they want. not only with imported girls but also with alcohol and drugs. in riyadh there is a hospital, the eye hospital, which is practically a big brothel. if you consider that after the first gulf crisis they replace all us and uk nursing staff with philippine, pakistani, indian, sri lankness etc. they eye hospital is the only one that has blond white skinned nurses, on 6 months contract, from russia, poland some even from scandinavia. once i was flying next to a swedish girl, photo model type, that she was leaving ksa. from what i understood with in six months she had manage to earn a fortune enough for 2 lives.

a good friend of mine, 1st pilot in saudia airlines, was telling me a lot of stories about the hostesses and the vip passengers during the so-called private flights.

i hope we all understand that these are not for the ordinary ex- patriots. these are good for the ones that can afford to pay 1000$ (and this is not a joke) for a case of 12 johnny walker red label. in the same country that airport authorities confirep001e ordinary family vacation pictures there are 7 ditoxication clinics. in a country that homosexuality is the only solution for the ordinary young arabs there are few that can have what ever they want.

i feel really relived that i am not any longer obliged to travel down there. but whenever i had to be there i was always arranging a two days brake either in bahrain or in dubai.
may god help you all to survive down there!

Chris P
05-04-04, 01:25
Hi folks,

I'm going to be moving to Saudi long term in a few months, and aside from trips to Bahrain, I was wondering about travelling to Eritrea? The two countries are separated only by the Red Sea, and Eritrean and Ethiopian girls are among the loveliest on the planet, and easily seduced judging by the Africa board - does anyone know of a ferry service from Saudi to Eritrea? Would it be possible to take a few days off, drive to the West coast of Saudi and take a boat over? What would be the timescale and cost of doing this? Are there drive-on ferries, or is it too Third World for that?

Could be quite a fun road trip - inexpensive, as no plane flights involved, just driving (very cheap in Arabia) and the ferry, followed by a trip to a very poor African country; and also the charms of those lissom, dark beauties, combining the most desirable aspects of negro and caucasian women, would be a great antidote to the veils and mullahs of Saudi. If anyone fancies joining me, it could be a good week!

Also, I'm a British citizen - what's the deal with coming and going from Saudi, both to Eritrea and more generally? I know that all non-Muslim foreigners have to get some special ID card, and have to leave Saudi at least once a year, right? Is it possible to simply up and leave for a few days and then return to Saudi, or do you have to pre-arrange all trips out of the country?

Cheers for any and all responses guys,

Chris

Ever Ready
05-04-04, 08:24
Chris P,

As a long time Middle East resident, never actually living in Saudi, but visiting on business countless times, I'd say you may be in for a disappointment about trips to Eritrea.

As a Saudi resident, you have to obtain an “exit / re-entry visa” from your sponsor just to be able to leave the country. That depends how friendly / helpful / influential your sponsor is. This may mot be your immediate boss, but the Saudi national sponsoring the company. These rules apply whether you’re looking at a longer break, or even a 1-day / weekend hop across the causeway to Bahrain, where there is plenty of action – (read the report section). You’re lucky, as a Brit, you tend to be treated a bit better than the “other” nationalities / colours etc - seems wrong, but in Saudi, that’s the unwritten rules of the situation.

Where will you be stationed in Saudi? It’s a f***ing long drive / 1.5 hour flight from Riyadh to the Red Sea coast (Jeddah / Yanbu etc). If you happen to be stationed in Jeddah, well you could enquire about a ferry service to Eritrea, but I’d put money on there not being anything. There’s no way you’d be allowed to simply take your car across anyway. From Jeddah to East coast (Al Khobar / Jubail / Dammam) it’s a 2.5 hr flight – this is a BIG country man!

If you want my personal opinion for what it’s worth, get in with the local expat scene as quickly as possible. Saudi being the hell-hole that it is, the Brits stick together and network well. There can be at times a riotous “underground” social scene, all inside private compounds. The country is loaded with single foreign nurses and airhostesses from UK, Ireland, Far East, all closely guarded in their living quarters, but (so I’m reliably told) they manage to “escape” regularly to attend parties etc. However, don’t forget that single guys heavily outnumber single girls, so availability isn’t always easy.
At first glance, Saudi is pretty dead. No (legal) bars, clubs, cinemas, nothing! Male / female segregation in public, It's like going back in time a few hundred years! But illegal "sid" and home brew is abundant - just don't get caught.

Best to keep your head down, hope some radical crack-pot doesn’t take you for an American, as things are pretty dire for them at the moment, work hard, earn shit loads of money (that’s why you’re there, not for the suntan!), and if you’re lucky you’ll get the occasional bit of pussy, or resort to making regular use of Mary Palm & her Five Lovely Daughters.

Try to escape to Dubai or Bahrain for a long weekend a few times a year. Hit Dubai in November for the Rugby Sevens – one of the wilder weekends in the Dubai calendar. Another thing, (nothing to do with the availability of pussy), but Jeddah / Red Sea has some of the best Scuba Diving in the world. If you’re that way inclined, do it. I’ve dived there a few times, and it is amazing! – Go for it!. There are several good dive clubs with good quality training and kit rentals.

If / when you get settled in Saudi, send me a PM, and maybe on one of my trips there, we’ll meet up for a glass of mango juice – keep your sense of humour, and you’ll survive, inshallah! Good Luck!

PS – I’d agree that Ethiopian / Eritrean girls can be beautiful, but a word of warning – most refuse to suck! – Against their culture or some bullshit like that.

Bulldog67
05-04-04, 08:30
Hello Chris,

I assume from your message that you’ll be based in Riyadh, or in the Eastern Province.

I’m American, based in Dhahran, and have been here three years this time. I worked here two years back in the early nineties.

I can’t tell you much about a ferry service to Eritrea, but I’ll try to find out. My housekeeper is Eritrean.

All foreigners, regardless of religion, must have an iqama. This is a kind of combination ID card and work permit. It is issued in the Kingdom, and renewed in the Kingdom. One does not leave and return as they do in other countries.

As far as trips in and out of the Kingdom, everything has to be arranged in advance. In order to leave and come back, one must have an exit and re-entry visa. These can be obtained for single trips, or for six months, multiple use. The single use costs 200 Saudi riyals, and the multiple use costs 500 riyals. In most cases, this is handled by one’s employer.

I assume also that you will be provided with a company vehicle. To take the vehicle out of Saudi, one must have written permission (in Arabic & attested by the Chamber of Commerce) from the vehicles owner. When traveling to other GCC countries, insurance can be purchased at the border. I purchase Bahraini insurance annually; it costs 500 riyals per year.

If you have any other questions, send me a private message, so as not to clutter up the forum. I’ll be glad to help if I can.

Swamp Rat

T Poet
05-04-04, 09:33
Chris P,

You can forget it uless you have a real flexible sponsor. Depending on your contract as well, most places don't allow you to leave except for the couple holidays Ramadhan etc. and the summer break. In the Eastern Province some people have jobs alowing them to travel to Bahrain on weekends but most people I know including myself don't have that privlege. After the latest killing of some westerners you should think twice. I know many who are leaving and this is no place for hobbying. Africa on the other hand well the reports speak for themselves.

Be safe!

T Poet
05-05-04, 20:47
Something interested I just cvam e for a short term tripo to Jeddah. Although I didn't get any action and I am well aquainted with five finger sally I visited Herra'a Mall and was surprised at the potential got quite a few looks but I think it requires allot of patience and risks any way hope that helps.

TP

T Poet
06-01-04, 03:54
I don't think the scene here has ever or will ever be much to brag about if you can ever find it. After the recent killings and kidnappings the past month including yesterdays massacre it was enough for me to decide my Western ass is outter here. No pussy is worth getting your throat cut.

TP

Bulldog67
06-04-04, 14:42
T Poet,

I'm already gone! I lived close enough to hear the gunfire. I'm looking for a house in Bahrain right now. I'll live in Bahrain and commute to Al Khobar. If that proves to be too big a hassle, my employer can find somewhere else for me to go, or I can find another employer!

Swamp Rat

Priamos
06-06-04, 18:05
Dear Rat & Poet,

What exactly is your problem? Don't get me wrong, I'm asking this question squarely because I want to know. I'm an ageing man now, but I used to live in Beirut in the days of the civil war, and back then we would joke about the intermittent clutter of machine gun fire and the occasional mortar while we were splashing in our pool (by which I mean, the swimming pool provided by the compound in which we lived). It never occurred to me that Libanon was not worth living in just because there was fighting going on a few blocks away.

It got a bit "funnier", I admit, when the Hizbollah started targeting foreign nationals for abduction and murder on account of their being... well, foreign. But then again, I consoled myself thinking that most of the victims were CIA and SIS operatives (we all knew about that...) and not valuable human beings.

And yet, I dunno... are the militants in Saudi Arabia are now specifically targeting foreign unarmed civilians? That does sound a bit crass. I could live with the risk of becoming "collateral" damage in a red-hot conflict, but being stalked in my home because of my Danish passport would probably make me feel I'd overstayed my welcome.

Cheers

Priamos

Bulldog67
06-07-04, 06:46
Hi Priamos,

In answer to your question, yes they are specifically hunting westerners and Christians. They also targeted Indians, because of the conflict in Kashmir.

My family and I huddled in an interior room away from the windows and listened to the gunfire. We were close enough to hear the ejected shell casings hitting the ground. In cases like this, it's the utter helplessness that gets to you, you can't run, hide, or defend your family.

I'm a veteran of conflicts in Angola, the Ivory Coast, Venezuela, and Sotheast Asia. I've been shot at before, but this situation is totally different. People are being hunted down and slaughtered because of their skin color or religious beliefs.

I'll take a lot of risks to make a living, but I'll never subject my family to this again!

Swamp Rat

T Poet
06-11-04, 20:07
For those considering comming here I say don't. The people in general are friendly and unlike the media says the wahabis are not extremists but you have some people with their twisted understanding practicing evil.

Although I am not a Muslim I have many Mutawa freinds (they are faily strict but good people)

As for mongering this is the last place on earth next to Iraq or Afgahanastan maybe. Hope this helps and is not to political.

TP

Buzz00
06-12-04, 19:16
Swamp Rat,

I quite sympathise with you guys, I thought that only Israel/Gaza/Westbank was getting hit on a regular basis.
It would seem that these militants are definitely going on search
and kill missions - in Israel they just bomb, buses, shopping malls
and the like.

I would assume that hobbying in those parts would be at
the best a very risky enterprise and no quick thrill is worth
dying for.

As for hobbying in Israel - the sport has taken a huge knock due to a massive crack down which started after some criminal types blew up 3 innocent bystanders. There are many MP's though
with tons of CIS girls, and you won't get your ass in a sling as you would in Saudi, even if you could find that.

If you ever get over to this crazy place and believe me its crazy
give me a shout and I can point you in the right direction. As I am in a hugely stressful job the MP's are a great place to let off steam.

Take care and be safe.

Buzz

Wicked Roger
06-18-04, 17:40
Everyone,

Have been lurking around reading the posts for while and thought I would add my voice to the recent discussion. Been in Saudi many years and returned here a couple of years ago after 11 here and others spent in Bahrain. First came to Saudi in 1984! Live in Jeddah but many friends either going or gone, some to Bahrain - I used to commute many years ago and Swamp Rat I have had many a great party on Oasis in the 1990s so not surprised you are a commuter after your experience.

Chris P - I agree with earlier comments on Eritreans, many Americans here hanging out with them on the compounds. Too hard - if still keen, fly to Djibouti, loads of Ethiopians there and very enthusiatic (have spent time there as well - one place where the French army and Legion have brothels inside their camps so the girls are clean).

Only chance of women would be the many Asians (Filipinas) that work in the hospitals, hanging around malls at night trying to attract local women/any woman is not intelligent at the moment so basically there is bugger all! I have a Filipina 'friend' and she is always keen and very willing but I am lucky.

Have always liked this place, very friendly but there is now an undercurrent and if the troubles move west then many of us more pragmatic expats may take Swamp Rat's decision.

Not sure if this adds to the debate but if anyone is in Jeddah - cannot say it is top of anyone's lists - let me know.

Roger

Member #2136
06-27-04, 11:30
Hi!

I've been lurking around for a while, and I have yet to see a report from the Holy City of Makkah, being a long time resident of the Makkah/Jeddah area I've decided to post a bit of info on the scene.

Lets start with Jeddah. The area near the Old Airport is called Sharifiah and is filled with African and Indian females. Although my dick grabs my balls and retreats up into my torso to quiver in fear at the sight of most of them. There is a FINE Somali girl I hooked up with a few weeks ago, unfortunately I was unable to get a contact for her but she did charge SAR50/- for an hour, no BJ of any kind, no anal but did try different positions with a great deal of cajoling. A decent lay, about 8/10.

Will post more later. With more info on Jeddah, Makkah and Medina.

T Poet
06-28-04, 20:50
I bet so how did you pick that up in Jeddah? share the hotspots I need to get something before I go. Have you been able to get allot of action there? any contacts?

TP

Wicked Roger
06-30-04, 19:54
Hi!

Member 2136 - am also a long term resident of Jeddah but I no longer hang around Sharifiah, may go back if/when the security is improved! In my experience few hotspots TP - in fact rapidly declining. Makkah - unless 2136 is a Muslim (?) not sure if we wil ever get a report and even if we do, us infidels will have bugger chance of getting anything there! Some great Arab girls around and know a few who indulge but expensive and sometimes not keen on the westerners at the moment!

Normally the malls and hospitals are good bets for me but nowadays a bit harder and some real ugly ones now employed - must be getting them cheaper! My Filipina friend is great though I might add! Just bloody hard work here - so remind why we are not enjoying the delights of Dubai, Bahrain..?

TP and 2136, email me off line if you want to catch up. Am travelling for a few days next week but am around otherwise. In fact if anyone coming to Jeddah email me through the board.


WR

T Poet
07-03-04, 18:42
After I get back from my tour of the states i will look u up and see if you are still here WR those Arab contacts sound lovely if things cool down a bit. I am out

TP

Eric T
07-04-04, 11:33
Temp Opportunity (for me)

Hi all,

Well family has flown out recently and suddenly I have more time and opportunity nowadays :) I would appreciate if one can help me via PM or here abt availing this opportunity via sound leads or contacts or known-to-work methods. I reside in Riyad. Would appreciate your help mates!

Cheers!

Eric

Bulldog67
07-05-04, 10:37
Outta Here!

Hi Guys,

I just got paroled! My head office in the States has confirmed my transfer to South America. I'll be leaving within the next fortnight.

You guys try to stay safe out there, and I don't just mean in your mongering activities.

All the best,

Swamp Rat

T Poet
07-06-04, 19:45
Good luck Swamp Rat in your new adventures. I am sure you won't miss it here and keep us posted on your new territority.

TP

MKH
07-10-04, 10:18
Hi to all,

Yesterday night I and Eric (Senior member of WSG Forum) planned to search for a pussy in Riyadh. We went to one Grocery Shop which is on King Fahad road.

Normally on Fridays, coasters and mini vans come here with nurses and hospital staffs. At that time the shop was full of Filipino ladies, mostly 3 and 4 out of 10. After observing the condition for sometime we came to know that few of them are just doing window shopping.. and not buying anything. Among those girls we found one nice young Filipino. (she was 6 out of 10) We kept following her for few minutes, and then Eric got a chance and he went to that shelf on which she was checking some items. Eric took one item from there.

Check the details and put it back on the shelf with a paper which carried his mobile number. She took that paper, gave a smile to Eric and then we came out. After that I advised Eric to ask her for a ride. When she was coming out Eric ask her that "Can I give you a ride?" She said "thank you, my hosiptal van is here to pick me up." Then he told her to give him a call, and then we came into our car and then followed her van.

She is working in a clinic which is on Arouba Road, and her accomodation enterance is from inside the clinic. Then we left from there and went another grocery shop on Takhassusi road. We did the same thing there, and went for dinner. Both of the Filipino girls called us and they are not ready for immediate action but it is for sure that they are interested. Up till now Eric talked to both of girls twice.

Regards

MKH

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no capital lettering. Thanks!

Eric T
07-12-04, 09:25
Another night out

Special thanks to Wicked Roger for his insights :) ... they helped quite a bit ;)

Well folks, after a few PMs with seasoned players (which fortunately for them and unfortunately for me) are not in Riyad, MKH and I decided to canvas the city's well known and some not so well know areas. The 10ths FR is posted by MKH.

This is what happened last night i.e. the 11th. Continued phone conversations with the two Filipinas. Turns out both work at private medical centers and have a problem with coming out. Seems they only have one outing a week that too in the company van and among the guarding eyes of the fellow nurses... If its phone action theyre looking for then I'm not going to continue much longer.

Nice thing happened last night, saw a local chic sitting outside on the supermarket bench which was right in front of the parking lot. Two cars driven by locals were parked one behind the other, idle, trying to signal the girl but she was totally ignoring them. They drove away, she's still on the phone, prayer time is finished now the market is open. She is still sitting outside holding the cell to her ear and not going in. I go and drop my cell # at her feet and walk by (also carrying on a pseudo conversation so that she can guess from my accent that I am not local or Arab.)

Lo and behold! 10 mins later I get her call :) I was pleasantly surprised thats for sure. Well we exchanged preliminaries. She spoke very good English. When I told her I am not much of a phone person and would rather use it to coordinate a meet, she said 'well first I have to get to know you better.' Hmm I am curious...

Fellow KSA mongers pls enlighten me: What is it that she really wants to know? She saw me. Heard me. Now what is it that she wants to 'get to know me better' for? That too on the phone. Let me be more clear: What should be my do's and don'ts for the phone conversations so that she agrees to come over?

Feedback/PMs always appreciated...

Eric

Wicked Roger
07-12-04, 18:55
ET

Good luck and good hunting!

Thanks

WR

Ever Ready
07-13-04, 12:10
Eric,

I wish you all the luck you need for finding free pussy in KSA.

As a regular visitor on business to the Magic Kingdom, (well I used to be, but try to stay away now), I know the place fairly well, and reckon it must be about the most difficult place in the world for mongering, maybe except for Iraq, Afghanistan or Antarctica.

You should get yourself down here to Dubai for a bit of fun now and then.

ER

Sonidos
07-14-04, 00:11
Eric T,

You reside in Riyad, right? You have a family, right? You should know better, and please this is not a flame. As a fellow monger, I beg you to forget the local chic before your head is handed to your family on a platter upon their return. You are asking for serious trouble if you continue to contact her. Take EverReady's suggestion and catch a flight to Dubai for some safe fun.

Stay safe and have lots of fun.

Member #1846

Lion Phantom
07-14-04, 10:32
Hey Eric T,

I am a Lebanese expatriate (generally lurk due to lack of action here) residing in Khobar, and have witnessed quite a few endeavors from my Saudi friends.

What she meant by "'well first I have to get to know you better" is just that. She wants to get much more comfortable with your personality and your presence. So ask her also about her profession, education, and how she spends her days. This is pretty standard in the beginning, especially for local girls.

According to my friends, there are 2 types of girls. First type are the ones who just want to waste time on the phone, and get you to purchase units for her since most use untraceable Sawahs. Second type are the ones who actually meet after a few phone calls. Generally it could take a week of phone flirting before they actually agree to meet up. At most two weeks. After that the guys here would give up on her, as there are other fish in the sea after all. ;)

Once you've met, and if you eventually not meet in a restaurant/shopping center but either of your residences, then you have something there. Do take care, I did say "something", not everything. That is, expect some action, but it could be limited to just kissing, or it could lead to everything the heart (and elsewhere) desires.

Hope this helps Eric T, take care, have fun, and let us know ;)

Eric T
07-15-04, 02:52
Lion Phantom: Thanks for the input. I was thinking on the same lines of trying this another week and then giving it the boot if nothing fruitful happens. So far we chat for about 15-20 mins everyday and they're good and no lack of conversation has incurred. What showed me a possible 'red light' was mention of her taking a vacation after a week and that could be a hint of a smooth break off. We know how Arab women don’t like direct but rather that they speak in tongues don’t we?

I have stopped calling the 2 filipinas as I don’t have time of day to invest in 3 women as well as a demanding work schedule, plus truth be told I lost interest in them as a) They weren’t fun to talk to and b) are too restricted to move about so I will invest my time and SAWA (money) elsewhere :)

... and elsewhere is damn right!! True to the KSA spirit I finally squeezed a contact from a certain someone who was dodging information from me since a long long time. Long story short I got contact of a reportedly superb Moroccan :) Lets call her R. When contacted initially, she was quite upset and angry as to who had given me her contact. Even though I gave her the right reference she said that, that person better call her and till then I need not bother her. My 'wasta' assured her I was ok so next day I call and her previous aggressiveness had evaporated (don’t blame her for that, if you don’t think so then read current events in the Dubai thread). She was still scared at an outcall for an unknown person and told me that at the moment she is busy and will call me when she's not. This probably was her way of thinking about it.

I don’t call her for a day and today called her again. Friendlier tone and when asked whether she was free she said she wasn’t but yet said how about her friend. Reportedly a fellow Moroccan, in early 20s and very sexy. When asked if she was pretty, I was answered 'I think so but what you think of pretty is your idea' ... point taken. Services include everything of the usual except anal. That’s a big no no both for her and her friend. Price 1000 SAR for 2 hours no limit imposed on shots as I am buying the time here.

Yep! very high but I was told it would be. I told her that I know she is 'outsourcing' me so that she can later verify if I was 'ok'. She said that price was also high because since I was a first timer therefore the provider was providing the place as well.

Tough decision but fact is I have to get my foot through the door, plus according to the guy who provided the contact this lady and her operation was v good. So I say yes and after initial 15 minute trouble in locating the apartment I arrive at N's at 9.45 pm. She looked 22 at max. Medium chocolate color, very smooth skin, size 28 breasts (I like them a handful and taught and they were). A very slight belly on an otherwise slim figure. I like! I would say physically she is a 7.5, Face 7.

Very nice and cozy apartment. Her mom's away in another city and her bro is out and about on the weekend night and she is sure that he wont return till the wee hours of the night before which I should be gone.

We come into the lounge/TV room and the table is set for drinks and glasses. (non alco but still very hospitable I think, the 1000 is hers anyways so if she does this then indicator to me that she has a good attitude.) We sit down and sip on our drinks, smoke and have small talk. 10 mins later we're done and head to the bedroom.

Round one consisted of extended foreplay, 69 with her on top. BBBJ was good but could have liked some more vacuum but I think its a nice way to keep the sensation going without cumming too soon. This is followed by the main deed and after a couple of position changes I am done with the first round. She is not loose and I could say that she was rather tight. Hard to say because the Durex Extra Safes I was using rather impede the feeling more than the usuals.

We chat and have a few smokes in the next half hour. She is very nice and easy to talk to and I had a very nice time conversing with her. Those of you who've read my report of yester year (and I do mean yester year) know that I like and prefer the company and attitude as much as the act itself.

So round two starts but before that she goes and cleans up again. I have to say, hygiene was 10/10. DATY was heaven with her as nothing there reminded me of seafood. BBBJ, Doggy and finish in Cowgirl.

I check the time and its almost midnight. She wouldn’t mind me staying but I still need to have dinner, go home, shower and tomorrow I have to go to the office. I cleanup, dress, go to the TV lounge where we have another round of drinks and cigs.

I call MKH in the meantime. I should mention that I had MKH drop me in the general location and left my essential belongings namely the wallet, driving lic, and iqama in the car. I didn’t take the chance to take anything other than condoms and her fee as I have heard stories. So MKH comes downstairs a little away from the building and I bid N farewell.

So most of you must be thinking 'Damn! a grand for 2 hours' Do the math folks. I would be paying 400-500 ST for the quality of girls I like in Dubai. Factor in airfare and hotel (I like 4/5 star) and the rest of the difference I would consider 'ksa tax.' I don’t mind since its right in my city plus its a Moroccan. Much easier to go to and wouldn’t have to worry about 'while the cats away' as any night there could be a late meeting and voila I am a happier person albeit for different reasons then the said meeting ;)

So folks, why is 'Moroccan' a legend in these parts of the world. I would say its very good main service plus excellent attitude. Also this girl could really read the body language and figure my next move or intention. Not once I had to 'tell' her about anything except the particular 69 position I like (not many clients I reckon who return the favor and usually enjoy the bbbj one way street.) Most high cost providers I have read about (8s, 9s, and 10s) in the Dubai thread have the hardened look and attitude and though they may satisfy immediate needs with looks and technique but I reckon a 10/10 attitude is harder to find on 8s, 9s, and 10s anywhere.

Looking forward to see 'R' now. Till then adios. Comments and PMs welcome but no 'Give me your contact please' msgs. Just got my foot in the door. Don’t want to loose it via loose lips.

Cheers mates! Cheers Indeed!! :)

Eric

T Poet
07-18-04, 08:26
Eric,

You lucky dog seems like I could never get any contacts there. Anyway it pays to be persistent just be careful and keep you head low while pooning.

Tp

Eric T
07-25-04, 18:27
Hi all,

Well last Monday the 19th, I arranged with R and her friend N, a rendezvous at N’s place. Told them I would be coming with a friend. You all know about N so would tell you about R: Age around 23ish, tall, slim but a slight paunch at the belly, same chocolate color, size 30 breasts and bit less taught than N’s.

We arrived at the place at 8.30 and had Miss Mary Jane visit us for then next hour. After which we were all feeling nice and mellow except R who was careful not to indulge too much. A very careful and calculating lady Ms R is…

My friend then takes N inside and for the next half hour or so R and I just chat up. She told me that she indeed knew many girls of varying nationalities but most of them are exclusive with Arabs or Saudis. Oh well, that’s too bad but cant force local prejudices and stereotypes you know…

After my mate was done, we had Mary Jane visit again a few times after which R and I retired to the boudoir. After some foreplay BJ was initiated followed by DATY at my insistence though she had initially declined 69 it seemed like DATY warmed her up some what. Cowgirl and finish in doggy afterwards. OK experience but nothing to write home (forum?) about (though I am doing exactly that… how hypocritical.) At this point I was thinking N was better.

Efficient person that my mate is, he was done with his round 2 while R and I were inside and having a few tokes when we came out. Seemed like N was stoned beyond rescue :) … We joined in and half hour later I asked R if she was ready for round 2 and I was surprised when she said for today it was enough… pissed me off but kept my demeanor and 10 mins later sweet talked her into it. Went inside again and though she requested to make it quick as time was short (it was almost midnight and she wanted to be back to her place) I engaged in my (self) patented special-angle-cowgirl guaranteed to warm up the most frigid of nookies. We had a not so hurried and wildish session and she almost came… I finished first on purpose and told her innocently ‘you told me to be quick’ lol! :))

Almost midnight now and me and my mate bid them farewell. In this visit I took a better look at N and was indeed surprised that she really was not 22ish but more like 19-20 … niiice! Looked better without makeup. Face 6.5/7. Body 7.5

R has a prettier face but body’s a bit worn compared to N, face 7/7.5 … body 6.5/7

My friend liked the whole experience overall ok but said the service was still fakish at this price (1000 per visit) His question did make me wonder, he said ‘would you pick them up if you were in a Dubai bar?” Honest answer: No. Why? Because we both have very very high standards of beauty but I do make exceptions if I ‘click’ with someone. But bottom line: You’re getting some in Riyad in a nice place and good ambiance … and its not a two bit flip or indo on a two bit mattress in a two bit place (yes I have been there too… not too proud of that one but blue balls will do that to you!!)

Would I repeat it? Hmmm Lets see…

Eric

Member #2136
07-28-04, 18:25
Eric T,

Sorry for not getting back to you but I got sent to the interior of this great land , and was surprised to see that there is poverty here that is comparable to Pakistan's or India's - But that is besides the point. The point being that I was out in the boonies with out net access or even mobile access. But I see that you are doing GOOD. Way to go!!!

Wicked Roger - Yep I am Muslim (an extremely sinful one at that).

Member #2136
07-29-04, 08:22
Now for the info I had promised:

Let's continue with Jeddah - I was recently (two or three months ago) introduced to another area called Hara Tuwasir it is a predominantly African area which reminds me some what of Bronx or South Central, with "tricked out" cars with rap blaring out of them. Kids in jeans hanging off their knees and thick woolen caps on their heads (which makes me wonder about their sanity as its 36 degrees C and 97 degrees F at 8:15 PM.).

After 6 PM the “girls” start coming out and this is where the most obvious difference the USA and KSA comes to play – The ladies are NOT dressed in hot pants, tube topsand thigh high stilleto heeled boots, but are covered in the Abaya (the black cloak type thingy the women wear to cover up their hot pants and tube tops). But these Abaya's are form fitted (giving a very nice idea of their figures) and have the tendency of fly open at the slightest excuse (giving in turn a very interesting look at their wardrobe).

Now don't get me wrong. Not all of the ladies that you see out there have these Abayas some wear the “ordinary” one (stay well away from those as a friend found out the hard way, when two rather irate 6 feet plus individuals explained the difference to him). And you won't find the are overflowing with them (4 or 5 at a time is the max that I've seen)

The most important thing to have in this area if you want to pick someone up is to have a nice car as it seems to be the deciding factor for them to make up their mind on weather they want to be picked up by you or not. - That is the catch even though they are available for hire they are extreamly picky as lets face it prostitution in Saudi Arabia is a seller's market. (I usually borrow a friend's Merc when I go there).

Most of these “ladies” have average bodies (6-7) will do every thing except anal, and charge SAR 500 to SAR 1500 for three to four hours. I've found many a gem here one being “Aameerah” (princess) who had a light tan complexion an absolute TEN for body and face with a perfectly curvaceous hour glass figure. But her attitude sucked (4.5). Paid her SAR 1000 for 4 hours.

A word of caution: If you are a westerner DO NOT go there, as there will be a very minor chance of you getting out of there alive. If any male tries to wave you down get out of the area ASAP. DO NOT stop for anyone. And stay on the main road next to the football ground do not try to go into the side lanes as they are narrow, dark, often dead ends and dangerous. Even the local police do not come into this area.

--==+++==--
A local friend has been telling about some kind of a perpetual party in Dura Al Aroos that has an entry charge of SAR 500, will let you folks know about that when and if I get in.

Details on Makkah in the next post.

Eric T
07-29-04, 13:52
Member #2136, T Poet, Wicked Roger: Thanks for the compliments mates! More is to come and will post another FR soon :)

Cheers!

Eric

Masta
08-04-04, 13:55
Hello everyone,

I have just been approached about a position based in "Dhahran", and I am trying to get as much information about this area as possible. I am told that I could either live in Dhahran in this position, or live in Bahrain and commute everyday to Dhahran. Which area is more safe? I'm an American, and I guarantee I will stand out like a sore thumb in public (6 foot 7, 300lb guy). The closest to the middle east I have ever been is Istanbul, Turkey; I have never been to Saudia Arabia or Bahrain.

The money the job offers is amazing and it will be hard to turn down this opportunity, but it's not worth it if my head is going to be sent home to my family..you know what I mean.

Which area is better to go looking for girls and be relatively safe?

Thanks in advance for any info you all can give.

-m

ExpatCat
08-04-04, 16:21
Masta,
I would advise living in Bahrain and commuting. It's not far, and the lifestyle is better over here. At least there is booze, bars and women, all lacking in Saudi.

Expatcat

Bulldog67
08-06-04, 07:34
Masta,

I agree with Expatcat, living in Bahrain and commuting is much better. That's what I'm doing while waiting for someone to replace me.

I live on the west side of the capital city of Manama, near the causeway that links Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. My office is in Al Khobar. The commute is about 30 miles each way. Early in the morning, it takes about 45 minutes. Due to the fact that a lot of Saudis go to Bahrain in the eveings to sin, it takes about an hour and a half in the afternoon.

You will need to get a multiple exit and re-entry visa for Bahrain and Saudi. Ask your sponsor to get a "bridge book" for your. This is a small book that you keep with your passport. The immigrations people stamp this book every day instead of stamping your passport. It keeps you from having to have pages added to your passport evert couple of weeks.

The only downside to living in Bahrain is that it is more expensive. There is nothing to spend money on in Saudi, whereas temptations abound in Bahrain.

PM me if you have any questions, I'll be glad to help any way I can.

Swamp Rat

TheContinental
08-07-04, 06:55
Swamp,

Wouldn't that make one more of a target? What is the fear factor among expats (Americans expecially) regarding terror threats, assasinations etc? Do any expats actually learn the langauge and wear the local clothes? Like Mista I, too, amd considering a position in SA in the same area.

With regards to our topic at hand, what are the women in Bahrain like? Possible to reside with one for a period of time?

The Continental

Bulldog67
08-09-04, 13:03
The Continental,

I for one feel safer behind the wheel of a 2 ½ ton vehicle than I do trapped inside a compound. The people inside the Oasis compound that got hit by the terrorists here had nowhere to run or hide. A Toyota Land Cruiser makes a hell of an offensive weapon if used right, and if one is going to die anyway, he may as well try to take some of the b*****ds with him.

The atmosphere here is more one of wariness rather than fear. Walking around on the streets, one does not feel threatened. However, most people feel that it’s only a matter of time before something else happens.

As to the important question of women, Bahrain has plenty, and there is probably something there to suit any taste. I personally have experience with Thais, Indians, Filipinas, Chinese, Egyptians, Ethiopians, and Kazakh. Some were better than others, but even the worst was great. Long term relationships aren’t an option for me, So I can’t say for sure if that is possible. However, these ladies are business people. I suppose that if it were financially beneficial to them, a long term live-in arrangement is possible.

Hope this helps.

Swamp Rat

Eric T
08-24-04, 16:40
Hi guys, dont have much on the new info front except the fact that my liaisons with N have been semi regular and I am quite happy with the arrangement. Have managed to get a 'regulars discount' and am now shelling out SR 700 instead of the 1000 that I paid in the beginning :)

Visited R once more too but truth be told I knew the service wont be as great as N's. Reason that I saw really was simply that N is horny and R is rather frigid in comparision. And she still charges the same.

So why honor her with a re-visit? Because she knows other girls guys... gotta keep the PR going. She has said that she will arrange other girls for me in the near future so lets see how she holds on to her promise. I dont see her as a cheater so I have my fingers crossed.

Eric


Member 2136: Great report mate. Wish you were in Riyad and could do some much needed canvasing of the scene. Rare of your kind (canvases and reports) and rarer in KSA I would add. Thanks!

Titi Tigas
08-27-04, 16:50
I am going to Dhahran for 1-2 weeks of consulting for Saudi Aramco. I don't suppose anyone has any mongering information on that out-of-the-way place? Money is no object since the clients are paying big, but avoiding arrest is high on my list of priorities :-).

JP2U
08-28-04, 12:33
Bahrain is an hour drive away. Plenty of action there.

Bulldog67
08-29-04, 06:07
Trav Man,

There is nothing, repeat nothing, in the Dhahran, Khobar, Dammam area.

Check your Saudi visa to see if it is single or multiple entry. If it is a single, you're screwed. If it is a multiple, you'll be able to get across to Bahrain. Aramco are famous for obtaining single entry visas.

The trip to Bahrain is easy, I do it every day. There is plenty of info on the forum about opportunities in Bahrain. For a sure thing, get a room at the Gulf Gate Hotel or Phoenicia Hotel, and give the bell boy a couple of dinar to tell you which rooms the girls are in. The rooms are about 30 BD, and 30 to 40 BD for the girls. Right now 1 BD is about 2.65 US dollars.

Hope this helps.

Swamp Rat

T Poet
09-01-04, 15:49
Member 2136 you need to share the wealth keep the reports coming as some of us find it extremely difficult to get even a litltle action in KSA.

If I had some I woiuld share.

TP

Member #2136
11-04-04, 01:17
It's been rather busy, for some reson people expect you to work if they pay you.

Went to Dubai for Gitex… But being the nerd that I am, I blew my "play" money on a new i-mate PDA2K, so couldn't afford any action (what a waste of a perfectly good trip).

Anyway to get to business, I've been promising a report on the holy city of Makkah, and it's about time that I gave it.

Most people do not realize this but the most active place for our kind of action in the Kingdom is the holy city. I can hear your gasps of shock as you read this but it is absolutely true.

Nakasa (a shanty town like area mostly peopled by citizens of Burma, Bangladesh, and African countries) is a hot spot for cat houses, with company available from ten Riyals ranging to one hundred Riyals. The quality found here is predominantly below average in looks and lousy (for the lack of a better word) in attitude.

Share Mansoor, there are portions of this area that even the police do not enter. You can find stolen goods, drugs, alcohol and for our purposes women of ill repute. The ladies here are mostly of African nations (Sudan, Nigeria, and Somalia dominate the group), I haven't sampled the goods available here, but have been told that the price ranges from fifty to two hundred Riyals.

Azizia, here you can find ladies from Pakistan, Indonesia, Eastern Europe and occasionally locals (Saudis). Just had a nice Pakistani girl (about an hour ago) from Multan, looks wise she was an 8/10 with a very nice rack, attitude was a 7/10 the cost was two hundred for a shot, no BJ or Anal. Rates in this area vary from nationality to nationality. Did find a Saudi girl in her early twenties last week paid six hundred for an hour and a half of her company, was worth twice what I paid, very enthusiastic did every thing including BBJ and anal. A bit skinny for my taste but a pretty good GFE.

Now for the shocker the area around the Holy Mosque. This is the hottest area to look for action in, especially during the Umrah and Hajj seasons. When ladies from all over the world come here. You can get Egyptians, Syrians, Moroccans, Indonesians, Eastern Europeans, Indians, Pakistanis and a whole lot more. A sure place to get some is Juffaly Building in Gazzah, where large Umrah/Hajj groups rent apartments, the Average price is around five hundred quality varies.

Lalo77
11-17-04, 22:25
Man may be you are right in all your report expet in the action around Kaaba (the holly mosque). The security there is horrible. Yes there is some perverts during the tawaf (waking around the Kaaba) try to had physical contacts with the women there and they got beaten hardly by securities. Yes I know there is some pros enter Saudi Arabia with Omrah visas then they'll be taken and than work in Jedah or may be in Maka, but never ever the action would happen in Kaaba. Please man be sure of your informations the Kaaba is the holliest place for Muslims.

Thanx

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to correctly spell the words "you", "are" and "because". To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using "u" instead of "you", "r" instead or "are", "em" instead of "them", and "cuz" instead of "because", etc. Thanks!

Member #2136
11-20-04, 08:42
...but never ever the action would happen in Kaaba. Please man be sure of your informations the Kaaba is the holliest place for Muslims.
Man I really hate to burst your bubble but as the saying goes:

A stiff prick has no concince
I'm also a muslim although not a very good one or I wouldn't be posting here. I grew up in Makkah about a stone's throw from the Holy Mosque, and I remember a time when neither of the two Holy Mosques were segrigated. They only segrirated them after it became obvious that they were the HOTTEST dating and pick up spots in the Kingdom.

While I have never picked a pro from the Mosque itself, I have from the the immediate surrounding areas like Misfila, the covered market in Gazzah, Hafair and Kaaki Building in Al Jyiad (which has now been demolished).

A pimp/madam that I occasionaly frequent has assured me that she does her recruiting in the Holy Mosque itself.

Lalo77
11-20-04, 23:45
Your living in Mekkah you know what you are talking about. I post my report depends on what I've heard from some who works in Saudi Arabia, but concerning myself or any NORMAL muslim I would never ever think of these things when I'm in Mekkah or Medinah. These two places where I seek the forgiveness of god not prostitutes. If somebody do that there. I think he is not a normal human being.

Happy hunting anyway in the world expet in the two holliest cities for me or any muslim.

Thanx

DG69
01-08-05, 17:51
Hi, folks I work here in Al Jubail and I'm an expat, is here some live out there. I mean where could I found here femal company? Yes here in the camp are women, but of course they are married and it is not that what I looking for. Are here some prostitutes? Or, is it possible to meet local girls. In the hospital I found some opportunities, but I have not use them. Also in a department store in Al Khobar is it not too difficult to flirt, but is it wise to talk with such a local girl? Will there some religion police come and catch me when I start a chat with a local girl?

Member #2001
04-11-05, 23:35
totally agree on you on that one guy. Its for people like that, that makes me ashamed to be american or even hang around americans because of the attitude people like that have.

Who Knows
04-12-05, 00:52
I can't believe someone so ignorant could have made it to Senior Member?

WTF?

JP2U
04-12-05, 09:42
As a Muslim, and seeing the comments of the last few gentlemen, I am more humbled by the graciousness of Americans than moved by the comments of mikster.

Mikster
04-12-05, 18:22
Im sorry for my comments. I suppose being in that part of the world jaded me to an extreme degree. The truth is, I was drunk when I posted it and wish I had not. I probably thought I was being clever and funny, but obviously not. I shall look within me and find the fault that lays there. Sorry to anyone offended by my ridiculous comments.

Later,

Milkster

Sporadic
04-12-05, 19:51
Mikster,

I thought I smelled a little booze on your "breath" with that post.

I am sorry your experiences in the middle east were not positive, I only wish you could have met the dozens, nay hundreds, of fine Arab and Muslim gentlemen I have enjoyed meeting and working with.

As a senior member, I see that you have deleted the post, well done.
It takes a man to admit his mistakes.

With your attitude of contrition, I am certain that all will be forgiven by any Muslims who read the original. Arabs are very generous people.

On a personal note, every really stupid thing I have ever done, was done "under the influence." Join the club. The good news is that this one you can erase. I wish I could erase a few of mine.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Member #2136
04-24-05, 11:02
Now that the Umrah season has started *new* folks are comming into the market. Unfortunately my suplier got busted in the post Hajj crackdown.

I came accross an Egyptian couple that is in Makkah for "Umrah" and making some money on the side, the "husband" is renting out the wife for SAR 150/shot, the lady in question is arournd a 7.5 (6.5 Eric T's standards) in looks with nice and firm body but the attitude sucks, as soon as one gets alone with her she tries to get extra funds out of you.

I don't know about the rest of you folks but I find it disconcerting if some one asks you for more money will you are STILL doing the act. I must say that she was probably one of the worst experiances I've had (Yes Eric even worse than the Paki broad who I saw and turned tail to run for the car atleast I didn't lose money in that transaction).

Member #2136
04-30-05, 11:28
Met a new gentelman who provides ladies of the evening through a friend, called him up (in Jeddah) he told me he had a Moroccan available, so went over to "visit" the lady in question looks wise she was a 4.5 but in action it was a -10 made me feel like a necrophile, I mean the it was like poking a dead body... No interaction what so ever. But still not as bad as the lady in the last post. the cost was SAR 100/shot.

Wise Brown Owl
06-20-05, 18:28
I am an expat stuck in Riyadh for a year... live on a Western compound etc. Anyone with P4P contacts in this Magic Kingdom please PM me.

Thanks guys

Eric T
08-06-05, 09:25
Hello everybody,

Well, the forum has been unavailable for some time hence I wasn’t able to post but let’s hope the screeners don't get a wind of this new website name.

I thought I'd just post a quick summary of the scene here in Riyad:

Yes it does exist :)

Now that we have THAT mystery finally answered to let me indulge you in some details:

Type: There are 2 main types of p4p in Riyad (in KSA I'd think) : Arab and non-Arab. Both types can be divided in sub-types of Nationalities: Saudi, Lebanese, Moroccan, Syrian, Egyptian, Ethiopian, Misc African, Filipino, Indonesian, Sri Lankan, and Indian.

You'd generally find that non-Arab is cheaper than Arab. Moreover, generally the Arabs stick with Arabs and the non- with the non- but YOUR nationality will play a big part in what you can land. I have had some experiences where the Arab provider or its manager was uppity knowing that the potential customer is westerner whereas in other instances it was considered positive. Non-Arabs are more accomodating.

Place: I cannot emphasize this enough, having a nice safe place is very important. I have seen many deals fall through due to that requirement not fulfilled.

Sometimes the provider seems picky: I have had an instance where the provider was afraid of compounds particularly western due to the security concerns and in another instance it was to one's preference. Generally, if told that you don’t have a place of your own or you mention hotel is a deal breaker... so don’t. Get a place, borrow your friend's for a day or something.

Then there is always the prospect of a Bachelor Pad. Bad Idea. The chances of people reporting some place where couples get together in an otherwise empty residence are Very High. There is of course a workaround: Have someone live there and share the cost. But still make sure you dont have locals or arabs in the building as expats will usually stay clear of what others do.

Price & Tiers: You'd find 4 tiers of service providers a-, b-, c-, and d-list with prices ranging from SAR 5,000 a night to 100 per shot. It all matters on beauty, physique, marital status, age, tier, nationality, how affluent is the provider i.e. how badly she needs it, etc. Generally, 500 to 1000 for the first time is ok. But desperate types have messed up the rates here and seems all ask 1000 or above nowadays (a- and b-list). C-list usually goes for 300 per shot and d-list (runaway maids held by captors mainly) can be had for 100 a shot or even bought for a few thousand.

Riyad is more inflated than Jedda/Mecca and the Eastern Province. Price differences range from 35% more to four times the price over there. If the provider has a nice place (which is the way I prefer it) then the price is also higher.

Menu: BBBJ and FS is the norm more depends on how much are you spending. I had one provider tell me anal was a big no no until a few visits later and then offered it at more cost. Also depends on nationality. Some simply dont do that, What ever that may be. If you are bedding a local then you just may get ONLY anal because that hymen is very precious if you know the traditional/cultural norm here.

I Like it, How do I sign up? How does one land all that? The answer is through the social network. You HAVE to be introduced by someone. Rarely would you be interacting and dealing direct (unless its a mall encounter type which can be non p4p as well). In p4p, you are usually referred by someone. Who are those "someones"? It may be a colleague who you have confirmed also indulges, may be someone proposes to you the prospect (many westerners who have the profile i.e. single and making good money get approached) but be careful there as there just may be fishing you out. It can even be a taxi driver but usually their quality varies from medium to god awful.

No matter how you land a contact, KEEP A LOW PROFILE. Don't go about boasting to no matter whom. Simply don’t tell ANYONE is my policy.

You have something(s)... You're getting laid... Good! No need to tell anyone.

The Trade: There will be times when someone may offer exchange of contacts. It has happened but rare. Usually it’s a fake having nothing and hoping you'd land him something. How well do you know the person pretty much is the rule here. Never forget the Too Good to Be True Scenario. If someone claims to know an 18 yo virgin who will do everything on the menu for the whole night for just 1,000 means they're hoping you're residing in Lala Land.

Hope that answers many of the "I just came here and this place is the pits! Please tell me how to get p4p here..." type questions.

Cheers!

Eric

JP2U
08-06-05, 16:12
Heh heh Eric, sounds a whole lot easier to just drive over to Bahrain (not to mention cost effective).

Piper1
08-06-05, 22:50
Eric - excellent detailed post from one of the few guys who know the scene there. Bahrain is okay, of course, but home-cookin' is better!

Cheers

Piper

Eric T
08-07-05, 05:48
Heh heh Eric, sounds a whole lot easier to just drive over to Bahrain (not to mention cost effective).Yes it is. For residents of the Eastern Province who have multiple Exit/Re-Entry Visas and hence are an hour's drive away from Bahrain. But residing in Riyad, wouldnt you think that its a whole lot easier to drive for 15 mins to my chica's residence?

I in fact once drove to the Eastern Province in hunt for the elusive arab cooch. See FR. I wouldnt like to drive 8 hours in one day and do it again. Nor do I like to drive over the weekend for the same.

Cost effective? Actually, if I factor in the travel cost for me... its about the same with Riyad being negligibly costlier.

In fact a friend of mine in the Jedda/Mecca area laughs that "all y'all are gettin ripped off in Riyad and/or Bahrain"

At the end of the day, its what suits you.


Eric - excellent detailed post from one of the few guys who know the scene there. Bahrain is okay, of course, but home-cookin' is better!

Cheers

Piper
You said it mate.... you said it ;)

Cheers!

Eric

MKH
08-08-05, 20:54
Nice post. Any news for my Dubai hotel reservation. I found this site the best place to ask for my hotel reservation. When the reply is expected. Someone offered me here 200 in London Crown. What do you suggest? Confirm me for the four point Sheraton. I am waiting brother.

MKH

Eric T
08-24-05, 10:08
I have come across a number of negotiations these past 10 days. What I am noticing more and more now is that semi-pros are insisting on locals and shun from other nationalities for diff reasons unless backed by a strong referal. The westerners are declined due to political beliefs and fear of STDs and the asian guys for fear that they cant afford it. Typical stereotype beliefs. I am sure this is not the case in higher tiers, I'm talking about the b-list here primarily.

Also, since we're still in vacation season till the end of this month, many of the young ones havent come back. At least in Riyad, I'm stuck with 30+ year olds... whom I declined.

Have a few good prospects lined up in the pipeline for "back to school" season hehehe... lets see whats coming after 2 weeks. Will keep you guys posted if anything happens.

Eric

Kiasu
08-28-05, 19:38
Bravo to Eric T for his great post.

You can call me chicken as I don't dare to look for P4P in Saudi, I would rather drive over to Bahrain to relief my stressful body over the weekend. Nevertheless, thanks for the post, brother.

Wicked Roger
08-29-05, 08:37
ET,

Am now in UAE so no more wandering around the streets of Saudi!! Seriously, keep up the good work, we both know how hard it is in KSA.

Will read the KSA posts to hear more of your exploits.

Keep mongering carefully!

WR

Nomad1972
08-29-05, 09:46
Gents,

I have recently arrived to Al Khobar (Eastern Province) and still feel completely lost. Most friend and expat colleagues go to Bahrain (1 hour drive) on WE or even WD for fun. I am sure that there is some action around but still could not have the right contacts.

I see many talking about phone dating in KSA, specially with local chicas. Any hint how it works here?

Eric T
09-03-05, 12:50
Hi guys,

The below actually came up as part of one of my pm exchanges but I thought I would post the relevant portion here as well...

...Then there is the old method (I hate it) of phone buddies. Simply go in a mall, sit in a cafe, turn on your bluetooth, send messages left and right to any profile that you think is attractive and see where it takes you. You will find 3 types of phone buddies and variations thereof:

I have nothing better to do so I am wasting time (mine & yours): They will keep the phone thing going with you untill one of you gets bored of it. During this time, you will be asked for recharge cards so that they can keep on talking to you (and others)

I need sex but for some reason I dont want it from you: This one starts off nicely but if didnt pique her interest, it deflates and she stops answering your calls or "goes on a vacation" thereby never answering your calls

I need sex too but after I get to know you better: Self explanatory. These are the ones they're all are actually after. Including you. You talk a few times. You agree to meet somewhere public eg for a coffee or in a mall or in a super- or hyper-market. The next time after that, you meet in private and do the deed that you did all this for.

Well thats the phone buddies tutorial. Wish you good luck!

Eric

VanDammage
09-16-05, 06:35
Hello all. Sorry, this is not any sort of report, but I would be transferred soon to Dhahran. Maybe for 3 to 4 years. Any advice on this place? I need to find out more details about this place. I am Malaysian, non-muslim.

TQ.

Member #2136
10-09-05, 20:42
Hello all. Sorry, this is not any sort of report, but I would be transferred soon to Dhahran. Maybe for 3 to 4 years. Any advice on this place? I need to find out more details about this place. I am Malaysian, non-muslim.

TQ.Dude,

The best advice I can give you is to have your company get you a multiple exit/rentry stamped on your passport and if possible a "bridge book". And then I reccemend frequent trips to Bahrain.

T Poet
01-03-06, 20:57
My adivce if you are here go elsewhere! if youare elsewhere not here! it has been a number of years and alot of lonely nights with old five fingers. i have just returned to a new contract (why I don't know) anyway seems the scene is the same unless you have close trusting saudi friends, nice car and willing to spend. Also acces to this forum is almost impossible sure they block this way soon.
my four and half pennies

Razzor
01-03-06, 23:37
I've worked in Saudi two different times and both times I've been successful with the Filipina Nurse scene. The problem is the introduction, once you get past that, you’re in. The thing you should also consider while trying to meet them is where they work. Some Filipina ladies only get out for a couple of hours a week off and it's supervised; this is hard to work with. You should try to meet the ones who work in a government hospital, like the National Guard Hospitals. These ladies sometimes don't even have a curfew, sometimes they do, but you can work around it when they have to be in by 11pm. Sometimes the curfew works in your favor, if you’re working a couple of ladies. At least you know where there at when you’re not slamming one, so the other one(s) won't come rolling in on you.

While being in Riyadh this time I've found that I can work the Friendsters site. It hasn't been blocked in Saudi yet and you can make some good connections on this site. I've meet up with 3 that I met and got pussy from 2 and still juggling the meeting up of two of them. One important thing, Friendsters site doesn't charge you a thing for this service.

I'll be moving to Bahrain next month and I'm already working the ladies on Frindsters in Bahrain. I've got a few replies so far with some who are ready to meet up. These are ladies that work in mall, hospitals and offices. I already know where to find the "working girls" in Bahrain, but I'm interested in having some lady friends who are not "working girls".

Well the site is:
http://www.friendster.com

Hopefully Mr. Jackson don't delete the URL, just remember it's name and do a search on google.

Take care all and a Happy New Year to all.

RaZZor

JP2U
01-04-06, 13:14
Razzor, if those 3 girls are working in Saudi, I dont think its a good idea to post their nude pics here.

Rayman
01-06-06, 10:47
Eric,
I have done the same thing in an Abu Ahabi bar and picked up a filipino romantic freebie. We only shagged the once as she had an old, but generous, man hanging around, and i was far to tight in the wallet for her to play with longterm! But it does work, for those of you with some patience... hehee

Razzor
01-21-06, 12:00
Well it's been a good run here in Saudi this time. Some say you can't get any pussy here, I say they don't know what there talking about. If you want to take the efforts to meet someone like I did on the Friendsters site, yes you can get some pussy, more than likely you will have more than you care to handle.
Well this good run comes to an end tomorrow, I'll be moving to Bahrain for now. I know it doesn't take as much efforts to get things going there, but I'll be trying to hook up with the nonbar girl type and that's where I'll put the Friendster site back to work again. I've already gots some leads to work on so far.
For all my fellow mongers I leave behind, you can get pussy, it just takes some work. You have nurses, doctors, dentist, maids and administrative type ladies all over the place, you just have to be creative about how you will meet them. Just rememeber, they want to meet someone too and there part is harder than yours to get an intro.

For the past few weeks I've been hitting this and this has been grade A quality.

Razzor

Razzor
01-21-06, 12:01
Saudi pussy

Tiantain
01-27-06, 02:04
Razzor,

Great pics, was that girl local or asain?

Eric T
02-03-06, 13:54
Razzor: I totally agree with you. Though your method and mine has been completely different, they both work. For most its a risk they dont want to take. For others, they're the standard deliver-the-goods-without-any-work-on-my-end type. Great pics, she sure seems my type; young 'n petite ;)

Tiantain: Seems Filipino.

Cheers!

Eric

T Poet
02-07-06, 15:54
here is q logistics question for one i hqve hqd little success since I hqve been here but Also live in q single residence Apts How can I hook up even if i make a contact

Micky Mouse
07-14-06, 07:54
Hello Fellow Mongers.

I will be moving to Jeddah for work. I know it is a strict muslim environment. Do they have clubs and pubs there or what rae the chances of meeting people.

I chose Jeddah. Because one big firm offered me a good job. So. I will be there end of this month.

MM

Razzor
07-14-06, 16:18
Clubs and Pubs, WTF!! where do you think you’re going? Sorry to sound that way but it's Saudi Arabia. On nearly every corner you will find a Mosque not a bar. Sure you will hopefully make connection with some other Expats and maybe get into the click with the underground drinking places. Most is home made, liquor, beer and wine. Occasionally you will have the opportunity to buy a bottle of the real stuff for +$100.00 per bottle.
To hook up with some ladies, get on friendsters.com and start working on something before you get there. There is lots of pussy ready for the taking in Saudi, just takes a little work. The ladies can’t drive, some will not ride in the car with you, some ladies will not ride in a taxi alone and that’s why transportation is a problem with a lady once you hook up. Sometimes this works in your favor if you do all the transporting because you will know “she” won’t come rolling in on you at your villa while you’re slamming another babe. Just have to work all of the disadvantages of the ladies in Saudi in your favor instead of letting them be a limiting factor. Another thing, don’t let your girl ever get close with your neighbors; they will snitch on you when they have the chance when your railing more ladies than them or there wife things you’re a whor*Man.

For a good time and some long weekend drinking plan on going to Bahrain or Dubai for the weekend, it will cost about $200.00 round trip.

Jeddah is a bit more liberal than most of Saudi but it is still Saudi. You can make some good money and get loads of pussy if you work the network hard, I know cause I’ve done it.

RaZZoR








Hello Fellow Mongers.

I will be moving to Jeddah for work. I know it is a strict muslim environment. Do they have clubs and pubs there or what rae the chances of meeting people.

I chose Jeddah. Because one big firm offered me a good job. So. I will be there end of this month.

MM

Stavvrrooss
09-07-06, 23:21
There is one thing i didn't quite get about friendster. It obviously brought pussy to Razzor, and it's full of Filipina ladies, but do they charge $? Are they pro? Most of them, or just some of them? If they charge, what's a normal tariff?

I'll rellocate to Saudi, and be there till Christmas. Looking forward to more info on friendster and the sex scene in general.


I've worked in Saudi two different times and both times I've been successful with the Filipina Nurse scene. The problem is the introduction, once you get past that, you’re in. The thing you should also consider while trying to meet them is where they work. Some Filipina ladies only get out for a couple of hours a week off and it's supervised; this is hard to work with. You should try to meet the ones who work in a government hospital, like the National Guard Hospitals. These ladies sometimes don't even have a curfew, sometimes they do, but you can work around it when they have to be in by 11pm. Sometimes the curfew works in your favor, if you’re working a couple of ladies. At least you know where there at when you’re not slamming one, so the other one(s) won't come rolling in on you.

While being in Riyadh this time I've found that I can work the Friendsters site. It hasn't been blocked in Saudi yet and you can make some good connections on this site. I've meet up with 3 that I met and got pussy from 2 and still juggling the meeting up of two of them. One important thing, Friendsters site doesn't charge you a thing for this service.

I'll be moving to Bahrain next month and I'm already working the ladies on Frindsters in Bahrain. I've got a few replies so far with some who are ready to meet up. These are ladies that work in mall, hospitals and offices. I already know where to find the "working girls" in Bahrain, but I'm interested in having some lady friends who are not "working girls".

Well the site is:
http://www.friendster.com

Hopefully Mr. Jackson don't delete the URL, just remember it's name and do a search on google.

Take care all and a Happy New Year to all.

RaZZor

Razzor
09-08-06, 14:36
None of them ever brought up the subject of money. I would buy them phone cards, taxi money or something they needed. None of the ladies I meet ever ask and would not want it to appear they were with me just for a payday.

That said, sure there are some around. If you deal with the professional ones like the nurses, you won't have that happen.

Good luck,

RaZZoR




There is one thing i didn't quite get about friendster. It obviously brought pussy to Razzor, and it's full of Filipina ladies, but do they charge $? Are they pro? Most of them, or just some of them? If they charge, what's a normal tariff?

I'll rellocate to Saudi, and be there till Christmas. Looking forward to more info on friendster and the sex scene in general.

Wicked Roger
09-08-06, 19:22
Hello Fellow Mongers.

I will be moving to Jeddah for work. I know it is a strict muslim environment. Do they have clubs and pubs there or what rae the chances of meeting people.

I chose Jeddah. Because one big firm offered me a good job. So. I will be there end of this month.

MM
MM

Late reply, have read Razzor FR.

Am an ex LT resident of Jeddah, very LT, still have many friends there. Jeddah is best place to be in Saudi, liberal (well for Saudi) but not great on pussy unless you work hard. I had very good Filipina pussy but I met that through the hospitals. Fridays is a good time around the malls as many nurses go out and window shop, try the newer ones north of the city not the older ones in the city centre.

Most people brew their own booze but it is available but very expensive and dont expect a menu of brands. Great social scene now, its picking up, and get into that and you may find an enthusiastic amateur, I found a few.

Access to ISG is very restricted as it is in the UAE so make sure you have your ways around the proxy.

Good luck, enjoy Jeddah it is a nice place.

WR

Piper1
01-17-07, 19:58
I just read the KSA forum, and it seems there is some fun to be had if you know someone or live there.

I'll be there next month for a few nights, so won't have time to do "on the ground" research. Will try Razzor's favorite dating site, and maybe even risk the "dropping the phone number" method in the markets. Any other tips much appreciated.

PS will be staying in a hotel, which will obviously be a problem.

Piper1
01-20-07, 13:08
The dating site seems ok for Filipinas, but it's getting to be way too much work and time to invest in the lead-up to a three-day visit. Any leads for a quick connection to a sweetie much appreciated. I'll treat her well. :)

Piper1
02-03-07, 01:16
Is no-one mongering in KSA? Had a kind offer from a pal in Riyadh for the phone number of an African gal - ST for 1500DH. Very pricy, but I guess like diamonds, rarity raises prices. Will also check out a couple of areas of town with "dark alleys" where offers are made.

Intensive research reveals that there's a lot of fun happening in expat compounds. Come on guys, invite me in! ;)

Allen Eire
02-06-07, 09:51
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250324,00.html

Hope none of our dear mongers got caught up in this! Isn't radical Islam great?

Piper1
02-20-07, 01:01
Just back from three days in the Betty Ford Clinic in the desert: Riyadh. I'm slowly sipping a much-deserved Jack Daniels as we speak. (BTW - It would be so easy to bring in alcohol if you wanted to. I had no security checks at the airport. Maybe I was lucky).

Too busy with work for mongering. However, it was a good chance to catch up with some work in the occasional free hour that I had.

A highlight of the trip was catching up with an old ISG pal, Erik, this evening, who I met in Dubai last year. A great guy, with local contacts of the mongering kind (African girls). Next time I visit, I'll try to take up his offer of an introduction to the "house of fun".

I also contacted three Filipina girls from friendster.com, who sounded like they were hot and ready in the past few weeks, but they went cool once I arrived - i.e., no reply to my emails when I told them I was in Riyadh. Understandably, they were just flirting in a land where they cannot do much more than flirt online. To risky for them.

On a positive note, I politely emailed an Australian nurse on an expat site while I was in Riyadh, asking about the "social life" for a single guy. Being from the same Aussie city as me, she replied that most of the parties happen in compounds (walled suburbs), but you need to be on "The List". She said that if I let her know in advance next time, she will add my name to "The List" and I can surely have some fun.

I'll be back in Riyadh in about six weeks. Hopefully I can take up one of the offers.
___

PS - I hate Riyadh airport - completely inefficient - two hours to check in. That, combined with a million people at Dubai airport arriving for the tennis tournament, made it a seven hour door-to-door trip home. I can go to Bangkok in about seven hours, and Bangkok is slightly more fun.

Easyfil
03-07-07, 03:28
I honestly don’t know what you guys are talking about. If you can’t get laid here you might as well go home and masturbate for the rest of your lives. I know Saudi Arabia is a conservative country; however, I have never in my life met such a sex obsessed people.

It is al a matter of adaptation.

I know if it difficult to meet chick in Ryhad where the religious police are active because this is the tribal heart land. places like Mecca and medina, the people themselves are more conservative. However, every where ells is a mans paradise. There are parts of Jeddah where women are walking around with their hair showing.
You guys should focus on the local Saudi women. They will love too give you a freebee when their men head off to places like Egypt for the weekend.

Tin Tin
03-07-07, 15:46
Seeing lately some activity in this thread, thought would like to share some info about Jeddah where i had been for 2 years 91-93.

Jeddah is a monger's paradise.(For asian's atleast). Being a asian myself, i had no problem in getting laid there.

The hunting ground is Sharafiya (i hope the spelling is correct). The moment you stand alone in the carpark near the Fly over, you will be approched by n number of guys asking if you need a vehicle.

Be aware that the vehicle is the code word for women also. if you ask him even directly, if he has women, he will tell yes or else guide you the person who can provide. the private taxi will be arranged, you will be taken to the room and after the deed is done, left out of the house.

The risk factor - Some out skirt areas where getting a taxi to return is difficult and standing alone in the evening or night is dangerous coz saudi boys are crazy and stealing your valubles is common.

the damages occured to me was SR100/- for the girl out of which SR 10/- goes the Driver, SR10/- for the Agent, and the actual taxi fare from me to the taxi driver which always used to be around SR 10/- or SR 15/-.

And I had got a variety of dishes in my platter (Indian, Filipino,Indonesian,Malaysian and Ethipoian).

Also has confirmed reports of filipino setups of living together as long as they are in KSA for weekly romps.

The Scene in Villas is entirely different. You should have the right contacts to get into the scene but things go on.

My summarisation of jeddah would be as follows:

You can get laid in jeddah if you look in the right places or have right contacts. Asians are the key to scene. Local Liquor flows like water in labour camps on thursdays. In short, fuck the strict laws of the land, everything is available but for a price and with contacts with right people.

Notidik
03-21-07, 14:13
Seeing lately some activity in this thread, thought would like to share some info about Jeddah where i had been for 2 years 91-93.

The years you quoted is over 10 years ago! Will the places you mentioned be still around?

This is the oldest FR I have ever read....

Piper1
03-21-07, 14:21
You guys should focus on the local Saudi women. They will love too give you a freebee when their men head off.Sure sure. I think "head off" is the operative word. (In the public execution square). ;)

I know there's a lot of underground action in KSA (a little research goes a long way), but for obvious reasons it's not reported on a site like this. My bad luck was that I literally had no time to play in the few days I was there. Maybe next time.

Tin Tin
03-21-07, 14:33
The years are 2001-2003. got it wrong.

As far as the validity of the info in this time goes, latest update from my friends who are still there is that still hanky panky things are available.

Cheers

Eric T
03-28-07, 11:27
Hi Fellow members,

Its been a while and I dont know how long this bypass will work but here is the current situation. I have come across a big pool of available local talent. Prices are reasonable too as they have an itch to scratch as well.

Problem: A place. They insist on a compound residence. I cant take em to mine because of family. So a friend and I are looking for a reasonably priced premises. Am not looking for any fancy place. Just a walled enclosure where JUST anyone cant come in.

Would appreciate pointers....

cheers

Eric

Jerald
04-02-07, 21:49
Hi,

I'm surprised that you didn't find a place that makes your "pool of available local talent" feel secure in Riyadh. Come on man, the situation is not like before.

PM me if you need any help.

Rami


Hi Fellow members,

Its been a while and I dont know how long this bypass will work but here is the current situation. I have come across a big pool of available local talent. Prices are reasonable too as they have an itch to scratch as well.

Problem: A place. They insist on a compound residence. I cant take em to mine because of family. So a friend and I are looking for a reasonably priced premises. Am not looking for any fancy place. Just a walled enclosure where JUST anyone cant come in.

Would appreciate pointers....

cheers

Eric

Eric T
04-03-07, 15:16
Hi Jerald/Rami,

Your PM function is shutdown mate. The bellow error appears:

Jerald has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

Pls PM me with your suggestion. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Eric


Hi,

I'm surprised that you didn't find a place that makes your "pool of available local talent" feel secure in Riyadh. Come on man, the situation is not like before.

PM me if you need any help.

Rami

Micky Mouse
04-26-07, 07:52
I spent 6 months in KSA, in Khobar/Dammam area. Although people say you can hook up at Filliphino market, I have never seen aything like that. Of course, a lot of girls come there and just hang around. It is so scary to even talk to them. Read reports of people getting lucky. Must have been once in a life time, blue moon chance.

I wondered pontential spots, but never hit anything.

However, talked to some in Riyadh over the phone. They wanted me to come there. They even sent photos.

MM

Razzor
04-26-07, 15:55
I was in Khobar from 1998-2001, I got to much pu$$y during that time. Lots and lots of Pinay pu$$y for the taken. Get to know some Nurses and you will be on the way. It was tough for me at first but after you get to know some Pinay ladies you will get connected.
If you live in Khobar or Riyadh it can happen. Read my post from when I was in Riyady in 2005, Friendsters.com was a big help.

RaZZoR



I spent 6 months in KSA, in Khobar/Dammam area. Although people say you can hook up at Filliphino market, I have never seen aything like that. Of course, a lot of girls come there and just hang around. It is so scary to even talk to them. Read reports of people getting lucky. Must have been once in a life time, blue moon chance.

I wondered pontential spots, but never hit anything.

However, talked to some in Riyadh over the phone. They wanted me to come there. They even sent photos.

MM

Wicked Roger
05-03-07, 14:48
I was in Khobar from 1998-2001, I got to much pu$$y during that time. Lots and lots of Pinay pu$$y for the taken. Get to know some Nurses and you will be on the way. It was tough for me at first but after you get to know some Pinay ladies you will get connected.
If you live in Khobar or Riyadh it can happen. Read my post from when I was in Riyady in 2005, Friendsters.com was a big help.

RaZZoR

I spent over 12 years in KSA mainly Jeddah and I agree with Razzor - it was worth getting injured or being sick so you got a chance to find a good looking Filipinas in the hospitals. I had a very nice one while I was there and she would swing, do everything so my advice is find a reason to be in hospital for a few hour :) Or go to the malls and wander around plenty nurses there Fridays but be discreet.

WR

Hunter105
05-13-07, 22:09
Will be in Rijadh beginning of June for 3-4 days, I still have to book my hotel. Is there any advise which hotel to book where I can find a massage place or other ongoing activities?

Is there a chance to bring a girl to the room?

I have been reading most of the reports and I know that the situation is difficult there, but maybe somebody has some advise.

Thanks,

Hunter

JP2U
05-14-07, 02:42
Hunter,

Zero chance of bringing a girl to your hotel. Massage? Sure, but it certainly wont be a hotel offered female massage for men. If you dont know anyone in Riyadh who's very familiar with the scene (i.e. expats living in compounds), then you will just have to write off your 3 days there as being totally sexless.

JP2U

Hunter105
05-14-07, 11:01
Hi,

Thanks for the bad info, I only know some Saudi people and customers I am meeting, so I still have some time to mentally prepare myself, and anyhow after Riyadh there will be Bahrain and Dubai.

Hunter


Hunter,

Zero chance of bringing a girl to your hotel. Massage? Sure, but it certainly wont be a hotel offered female massage for men. If you dont know anyone in Riyadh who's very familiar with the scene (i.e. expats living in compounds), then you will just have to write off your 3 days there as being totally sexless.

JP2U

T Poet
05-27-07, 21:43
well i feel ashamed to say after a few years here i would agree the scene is sad and not much to offer. Have had no real luck pan out but I can't wait for the summer fun in UAE.

TP

Misinformation
06-02-07, 23:26
When you are in Saudi you have to be like the locals and find a young boy. Otherwise leave the country, go to Dubai or Damascus. Saudi government is demented. Do not look for intimacy in this country. Yes you can get lucky but maybe they will bury the girl up to her head in sand and stone her to death.

It doesn't have to be like that. In this sick culture you can arrange a temporary marriage. $2000 or so will get someones 13 year old virgin daughter, you buy her, marry her, play with her and then give her back.

Be careful. If you bring your wife here and a piece of her hair pokes out of her scarf there are police who will hit her with a stick. They do messed up stuff. Imagine you have a 12 year old daughter and maybe one day you have an affair with a Saudi woman at work. Maybe the Saudi court will sentence your co-workers family to have sex with your daughter.

George! Aim the bombs about 500 miles to the south. The oil in down there.

Eric T
06-04-07, 16:39
When you are in Saudi you have to be like the locals and find a young boy. Otherwise leave the country, go to Dubai or Damascus. Saudi government is demented. Do not look for intimacy in this country. Yes you can get lucky but maybe they will bury the girl up to her head in sand and stone her to death.

It doesn't have to be like that. In this sick culture you can arrange a temporary marriage. $2000 or so will get someones 13 year old virgin daughter, you buy her, marry her, play with her and then give her back.

Be careful. If you bring your wife here and a piece of her hair pokes out of her scarf there are police who will hit her with a stick. They do messed up stuff. Imagine you have a 12 year old daughter and maybe one day you have an affair with a Saudi woman at work. Maybe the Saudi court will sentence your co-workers family to have sex with your daughter.

George! Aim the bombs about 500 miles to the south. The oil in down there.Misinformation, You are really true to your name mate. I recently replied to someone who was speculating about Saudi, but you take the cake with dispersing your word as truth.

Am cross-posting the below from another board but I think its relevant to whats being said.

-=-=-=-=-Cross posting for informative reasons-=-=-=-=-


KSA has got worse since 9/11, but I would prefer it to Libya for example. A lot depends on where you are, who you work with and the type of contract etc. – and while it was never a barrel of laughs but I would say boring rather than unpleasant, at least until the security turned all the housing compounds into prison camps.


Actually, after that incident, it has gotten better.

Not a response to your post directly BC, I however want to shed light as to what really happens here because some others are using a lot more speculation rather than provide accurate field info.

The scene among westerners is still going good and very much alive inside those prison camps so I don’t know what all the wailing is about. Just as p4p is a risk in dxb so it is one in ksa as well.

Regarding comments of people like Misinformation: Rather than speculations of whether you'd be stoned or your nads chopped off, a tiny survey would tell you that westerners are usually left alone at their business until some idiot makes it painfully obvious as to what’s going on. Even on those cases, you get a small sentence (few months ) and deportation. This is much better than anything Capital as decreed by Islamic Law.

Not so lucky nationalities (read brown) get sentences in years and at times even death.

There are pimps here that will approach you after some familiarization. These can be Arab as well as Asians. Rumors about maids & nurses (all nationalities) are true as well if you’re inclined to hunt semi or non p4p.

As I have posted before, the big problem is place. You really have to make your comings and goings, and those of your "friends" invisible. Either by having a villa or apartment (flat) in a neighborhood that doesn’t have meddlesome people (read posh area), or in a compound.

The place issue is where it gets many people. As far as availability is concerned, I have tasted just about all of them cept CIS because you don’t have much of those here in KSA. You have to watch out for herpes in the non-pro "active" western crowd, seems the rates have risen for some reason.

Hope this sheds light on the KSA situ

Eric

Eric T
06-04-07, 17:00
Dear friends in Riyad,

I have noted that many current as well as ex-residents on this board with the exeption of a very few mention how hard it is to get laid.

I have put my cards on the table before but let me mae ke it clear: Living with family here and being a holder of a family id, I am in a dillema. I have several contacts of different origin incl local. These are freelance as well as through "managers". I need a proper place to bring them. I dont want to spend 40 to 50 K riyals annually on a compound place. What I am suggesting here is that a few of us who are into the action and in a similar pridicament as me, team up and get a place. PM me if youre interested and we can discuss details.

Cheers!

Eric

Razzor
06-04-07, 17:45
Misinformation, you’re just pathetic. I worked in Al Kobar from 98-2001 and Riyadh 05-06 and it took some work on my part, but it was a pure fuck fest. Never got so much pussy anywhere else before that time and being able to work the ladies like they do us guys in other places was great. Have to say I got more pussy easier in Saudi than here in Bahrain, and with a captive audience in Saudi, because the ladies that just can’t come rolling in on you at a moment’s notice makes working more than one is easy. Most of the time I would have couple of Filipinos,’ maybe a Thai or two and lots of European and South African ladies to chose from also. I did learn the hard way that it’s best to stick to the Asian ladies; they don’t go off the edge when they find out you’re working more than one of them like the European and South African do.

As the saying goes you can take the guy to the *****house but you can’t make him Fuck, maybe this is your situation. Stop whining and read some of my past post and make it happen. I did live in a compound in Saudi that required going through more than 4 checkpoints coming in and leaving (US and Saudi Military) but that didn’t deter the ladies from coming or coming back, they would always come back if I called them.

Well Player, you need to work on your game or stop bitching about it.

Below is a gal who is still in Riyadh, I challenge someone to find her, not that hard if you read my previous post.

RaZZoR



When you are in Saudi you have to be like the locals and find a young boy. Otherwise leave the country, go to Dubai or Damascus. Saudi government is demented. Do not look for intimacy in this country. Yes you can get lucky but maybe they will bury the girl up to her head in sand and stone her to death.

It doesn't have to be like that. In this sick culture you can arrange a temporary marriage. $2000 or so will get someones 13 year old virgin daughter, you buy her, marry her, play with her and then give her back.

Be careful. If you bring your wife here and a piece of her hair pokes out of her scarf there are police who will hit her with a stick. They do messed up stuff. Imagine you have a 12 year old daughter and maybe one day you have an affair with a Saudi woman at work. Maybe the Saudi court will sentence your co-workers family to have sex with your daughter.

George! Aim the bombs about 500 miles to the south. The oil in down there.

Wicked Roger
06-05-07, 10:17
Just my bit to add to Eric T's and Razzor's FRs.

I am a LT veteran of KSA now based UAE, first went to KSA in 1984 and while it got a bit more edgy post 9/11 and the bombs at the compounds in Riyadh etc, it is a fun place and those friends of mine still there (even longer term than I ever was - 20+ years) say it is still fun.

Misinformation - you are talking (well writing) crap! You obviously have not visited KSA or lived there but write from an uneducated and ill informed viewpoint (maybe you watch Fox News too much ;))

I was able to enjoy Filipina pussy all the time I was there, it takes effort and takes discretion but if you stick to the Filipinas/Asians they are loyal, horny and with persuasion will do all sorts of things. My favourite did the swing scene in KSA and UAE when we visited and became bisexual as a result. She still SMS me and still wants it in the arse (but cuerrent boyfriend is reluctant)but that all came with real effort and hard work.

Inside the compounds no-one will bother you unless you start to openly do things that break the law (eg a friend caught with commercial quantities of booze - well a whole floor full of his villa). Then the law will hit hard.

Razzor and Eric T - whenever you come to UAE PM me as would be nice to catch up. I miss KSA in some respects despite all the fun I have here - maybe its the chase I like...and the muttawahs telling me off for wearing shorts in the mall (well they should not be looking at my legs) ;)

WR

Louie OK
06-05-07, 14:11
This place sounds like a bummer for the local flavor.
Thought that maybe those Wahabi chicks might like to get kinky sometime and uncover a little.
Screwing foreign ladies is the only way to go ? Certainly must be better than nothing I'd guess.

Eric T
06-05-07, 16:39
This place sounds like a bummer for the local flavor.
Thought that maybe those Wahabi chicks might like to get kinky sometime and uncover a little.
Screwing foreign ladies is the only way to go ? Certainly must be better than nothing I'd guess.I didnt mention the Fox Effext last time but thanks to WR for bringing it up. You could certainly tell em by the vocab they use for this region or country.

Bobzee, I have never seen the word wahhabi chick used here lol! Besides, if you read any of the FRs here, youd know that there is plenty of local flavor here.

You gotta have the right tools to do the job. Being an english speaker, it helps to focus on the Philipinas. Having some knowledge of arabic allows me to expand my horizons. Thats about it.

WR: Am planning a trip to dxb for mid-July.. Will let u know when plans are solid. See you then.

Cheers!

Eric

Misinformation
06-09-07, 10:31
Sorry guys. I was so drunk I don't even remember writing it. But guys, just imagine what happens to these Filipina girls if they get busted. Sorry, I am ignorant and I have never been to KSA so I should shut my mouth.

Wicked Roger
06-11-07, 16:24
Sorry guys. I was so drunk I don't even remember writing it. But guys, just imagine what happens to these Filipina girls if they get busted. Sorry, I am ignorant and I have never been to KSA so I should shut my mouth.
MI

Thanks for fessing up, nice to see someone own up somethimes on the board. Brings to mind a good one liner (think it was Kipling) who said something like it is sometimes better to keep your mouth shut because if you open it it will show how stupid you are! Actaully applies to some of my work colleagues!

Well done MI, now for Bobisse - wahabi chicks? Are there any?

Eric - will PM you

WR

Six Foot
06-20-07, 19:07
Well I lived in Jubail, one hour from Dammam/Khobar for three years. I got lucky a few times, though i was scared shitless. Met quite a few chicks on Friendster .com and the easiest way for foreplay is go to a fast food joint. The family section is seperate and each booth is covered from all sides. So your "lady" wears the hijab( the all black no show cloak) and you just get some food and go to the booth. Got a few BJ / HJ with no problem.

Infact if you are in khobar/Dammam then its easier. A lot of expat nurses there. Took one South African chick to a coffee shop and got a great HJ.

I used to play basketball with some local young boys, and they are very resourceful, if you do not want any conversation then they can provide local flavour as well.

Razzor
06-21-07, 16:47
Seeee!!! That's what I'm talking about!!! I know a few guys that did the same thing. Short time in the Family Section. Ha Ha Ha on the Saudi's. You can do it just no crazy noise. Most of the wait staff are from the Philippines so they know the deal and do the same thing them self. Just give them the "look", or tell them to give you 30 min before they return.

Good to see 6" got it going on in Saudi. It can be done you just got to want that (Y) bad enough. Hopefully some of our brother's can learn from him.

Great report, I forgot about when I was a scrub trying to be a monger in my early days living in Saudi. That's a place you can earn your Jedi-Monger Badge if you put some effort in it.

RaZZoR




Well I lived in Jubail, one hour from Dammam/Khobar for three years. I got lucky a few times, though i was scared shitless. Met quite a few chicks on Friendster .com and the easiest way for foreplay is go to a fast food joint. The family section is seperate and each booth is covered from all sides. So your "lady" wears the hijab( the all black no show cloak) and you just get some food and go to the booth. Got a few BJ / HJ with no problem.

Infact if you are in khobar/Dammam then its easier. A lot of expat nurses there. Took one South African chick to a coffee shop and got a great HJ.

I used to play basketball with some local young boys, and they are very resourceful, if you do not want any conversation then they can provide local flavour as well.

Jblack
06-24-07, 21:40
Adventures (curiosity killed the cat)

I was driving along the road when I spotted this very attractive girl, I stopped and she jumped into my car . 2 minutes later the police car was behind my car ordering me to stop over.

Hold on your breath mongers this event took place in St killda Rd Melbourne Australia, thank god not in Saudi. The girl was a street working girl(illegal in Melbourne).

Before this event I used to be very adventures but I swear this event change my attitude forever. I pleaded with the police women not to escalate the matter and I will never set a foot in the area again but she told me that a court summon was in its way to my address. I prayed hard not to get this summon as that would have meant the end of my marriage full stop.

10 years later thank god never saw the court summons but I tell what it has taught me never to mess around with the local law.

The essence of my story is, if a girl pleads with me to pick her up in Saudi even for free I will not even entertain the idea. Thank god I live in al khobar Bahrain is close by and full of working girls so why should I take the risk?

I thought to share with you my story maybe someone will benefit from it.

Play it safe

Jblak

Eric T
06-25-07, 14:07
Thanks for sharing your experience JB but no one here is telling anyone to throw caution to the wind. Any mongering Anywhere in the world requires different levels of risk whether they're LE related, social, or more of a biological nature etc. In all cases, the situation also requires you to act in a way to avoid that risk or mitigate it.

Since you are in the Eastern Province, for sure the hop over the bridge is a good solution, especially if you can get a multiple exit-reentry visa which not all are lucky to get so easily. But for those in the central and western provinces, hunting locally is the MO. I would say though, in the WP, its like shooting fish in a barrel. lol!

Cheers!

Eric

Wicked Roger
06-25-07, 20:25
But for those in the central and western provinces, hunting locally is the MO. I would say though, in the WP, its like shooting fish in a barrel. lol!

Cheers!

Eric
Well ET, have heard it called a number of things but no shooting fish in barrel.

But ET is right, if you live in WP you have to work at it, get 'injured' go to hospital and take physio - you will meet some ladies or hang around the malls. Mainly Filipinas and for me that was just perfect :)

I would never just pick anyone off the street, like the hunt as well and more the satisfaction when they get hooked. My last lady in WP was a great one and still calls me/SMS me at times, tells me she has asked her latest squeeze to buy butt plugs because I initiated her into it and she likes it but has missed the feeling (she was a Greek virgin until she met me also :)).

Feel sorry for her BF as he tries to find a way to bring butt plus in KSA :)

See you soon ET, take some energy pills!

WR

Piper1
06-25-07, 22:40
I was driving along the road when I spotted this very attractive girl, I stopped and she jumped into my car . 2 minutes later the police car was behind my car ordering me to stop over.

Hold on your breath mongers this event took place in St killda Rd Melbourne Australia, thank god not in Saudi. The girl was a street working girl(illegal in Melbourne)...Nice story Jblack. Reminded me of my wild days as a single man living in St Kilda in Melbourne about 10 years ago. Funniest memory is when I left a club about 2am, starving, so I bought a hot dog and sat on a fence on a street corner to eat it. Just as I finished it and I was licking my fingers (maybe a bit too enthusiastically), a car pulled up with a couple in it, and the woman asked me "How much?" A bit surprised, I replied "$300". They drove off. LOL. She wasn't too bad actually. Maybe I should've dropped my price. ;)

Like you, I was also caught by police in a "naughty" St. Kilda street once, including a female cop dressed as a WG. When I stopped to talk to her, a couple of male plainclothes LE appeared from nowhere, they all showed me their badges (including the 'WG') and she told me to go home to my wife. I wasn't married at the time, but I just said "Yes Ma'am" and off I went. Whew!

Hunter105
06-27-07, 10:40
Last week was in Riyadh and stayed in the SAS Radisson. No girls activity at all, even I didn´t see any female during the day, maybe some guests, but I didn´t see them.
Asked in the Gym for a massage, but of course only from men. -I was not interested-

A young Saudi taxi driver was bringing me to the hotel when I arrived, and his english was ok, so we were able to communicate. We chatted a bit and he asked about Dubai and girls. I told him some stories and he really was into it and wanted to know details. I was carefully giving him some infos but too much as I was not sure about the way he might behave. When he dropped me in the hotel he gave me his mobil to call him up when I need taxi. Next evening called him and asked him to show me some places. In the car had some parfum and I asked him whts that. He explained that this is from a Fillipina he drives more often. I asked whether it was possible to meet her and have a drink together with him, but he didn´t respond so I dropped the subject.

On the last day when I left he gave me tour through Riyadh and than brought me to the airport. He came back to my question about the Fillipino girl and told me that he tried to have a session with her but no success, but next time I will be there he will try to set up a meeting with her.

So next time maybe better results.

Hunter

In One Life
07-05-07, 19:11
I'm intersted.


Dear friends in Riyad,

I have noted that many current as well as ex-residents on this board with the exeption of a very few mention how hard it is to get laid.

I have put my cards on the table before but let me mae ke it clear: Living with family here and being a holder of a family id, I am in a dillema. I have several contacts of different origin incl local. These are freelance as well as through "managers". I need a proper place to bring them. I dont want to spend 40 to 50 K riyals annually on a compound place. What I am suggesting here is that a few of us who are into the action and in a similar pridicament as me, team up and get a place. PM me if youre interested and we can discuss details.

Cheers!

Eric

Oneeyedpanda
07-23-07, 15:12
Visited there in May, in the light of recent posts here thought I should comment. I was totally resigned to a sex and alcohol free ten days. All the staff in the hotel were male, including the chambermaids, and there was a police car parked outside the main hotel lobby 24/7, although the guy was asleep every time I looked. All the staff were either Sri Lankans or Indians with the occasional Filipino. After a couple of days I was bantering one of the waiters about the terrible alcohol-free beer, saying I didn't know which was worse, no pussy or no beer. The next morning he was on sentry duty while I was waiting for my lift, he told me that he could get me some beers for a price and they would be put in the fridge in my room; great I said, can you do anything about the pussy? For a price I said. Maybe he said. That night I found two beers in the fridge and an envelope with a phone number and a time on it; I called saying I was the guy from the hotel when an indian accented woman answered. About an hour later I opened my door to a quite attractive girl, quite dark, said she was from Kandy, Tamil area of Sri Lanka. Quite good looking, about 30, very petite; obviously dressed the Saudi way until inside the room. She had been smuggled in up the service lift I gather, how appropriate. Could have been one of the waiters wives for all I know, but she wasn't very chatty, preferring to work on me. Stayed about 2 hrs, had sex, great blowjob, swallowed, but declined anal saying I was far too big. I guess I was, as she was not 5' tall. Saw her twice in the 10 days, settled up with the waiter at the end for all services provided so I can't really say how much she cost per service.

Makes the prospect of a return visit in Sept much less problematic!

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Piper1
08-10-07, 15:50
Riyadh mongers - looks like I'll be joining you in the big Betty Ford Clinic for a few days very soon. Any updates on the scene?

Eric - let's catch up for another cup of tea if you're around. ;)

OneEyedPanda - nice report. Too bad it wasn't in Riyadh. Sri Lankan girl - yum!

Blood Red
08-31-07, 15:01
Guys,

Looks like I'll be working in SA for a year and will be based in Riyadh. My question is when you arrive at the airport, do they scan your laptop/removable disk drives for porn, etc? Is it a bad idea to have porn on your laptop/external drives when coming into SA?

Thanks!

Twin1621
09-01-07, 19:30
No need to worry about that. I have traveled many times through the airport and have never had my Laptop scanned. You should avoid bringing CD's with naked women dripping cum from their mouths on the cd label. If you do bring CD's. Bury them well with your clothes. If you have a lot of stuff, put it on a portable drive and put that in your checked luggage. You will be OK.

Twin -


Guys,

Looks like I'll be working in SA for a year and will be based in Riyadh. My question is when you arrive at the airport, do they scan your laptop/removable disk drives for porn, etc? Is it a bad idea to have porn on your laptop/external drives when coming into SA?

Thanks!

BionicMan
09-02-07, 21:30
...Saw her twice in the 10 days, settled up with the waiter at the end for all services provided so I can't really say how much she cost per service.


let me ask you how much you paid to the waiter as at the end this is what counts in this forum. lol

Eric T
09-11-07, 13:47
Piper ... been having proxy probs on top of an extremely busy work schedule so got lucky today on both counts and read your post.

You're most welcome mate...lemme know when and where. Email me in case I cant get thru here again.

Eric


Riyadh mongers - looks like I'll be joining you in the big Betty Ford Clinic for a few days very soon. Any updates on the scene?

Eric - let's catch up for another cup of tea if you're around. ;)

OneEyedPanda - nice report. Too bad it wasn't in Riyadh. Sri Lankan girl - yum!

Kiasu
11-26-07, 19:01
Hi guys,

Nice reports. I just got my company to install the Orbit Internet, was not able to log on from Dammam. Reading the last few pages makes me wanted to just go to Bahrain for a relief.

I visited my close friend in Jeddah during the Eid but didn't have any shag as my trip was a last minute arrangement. Now he promise me an Indonesian lady for the coming Haj.

Will report if my coming trip materialize.

Micky Mouse
12-02-07, 15:30
I was in Dammam/Khobar for about six months. Has anyone been lucky at the Phillipine market in al- Khobar. When you go there, there are plenty of girls from hospitals and housemaids. I will be visiting again to try my luck pretty soon.

So if anyohe being lucky please share your experience.

MM

Kiasu
12-27-07, 18:57
Hi guys,

Nice reports. I just got my company to install the Orbit Internet, was not able to log on from Dammam. Reading the last few pages makes me wanted to just go to Bahrain for a relief.

I visited my close friend in Jeddah during the Eid but didn't have any shag as my trip was a last minute arrangement. Now he promise me an Indonesian lady for the coming Haj.

Will report if my coming trip materialize.Sorry to report that my mate went back to Singapore during the break, so the Jeddah trip was off.

Eric T
01-20-08, 13:34
I am in no way taking sides. However, I dont like a skew.

That being said, lemme learn ya somethin man:
Newspaper repot, full details on corpun website.First report which is seven years old: 15 Lashes

Second report which is two years old You need to know the facts man. First, its 600 lashes. Second, I have seen the clip, its of a group of boys/men continuously chasing a group of women on foot and they are clearly seen to be pulling on their clothes, groping them, making lewd and crude remarks on them for more than 10 mins while they are capturing it in a mobile phone as a video clip. Tell me you think its quite far from just harmless cat calls.

I dont see anywhere cited that
"the police will suspend you from cieling and hang 2 kg weights on your balls all night, thats the police punishment"Nor do I see a mention of
the court sentence which can be anything from 100 cane strokes on bare ass in public place up to 5000 cane strokes in intervals of 100 every 3 months. Young men are regulary caught by plain clothes police they call it harrassing women, 30 strokes of cane on bare ass in police station, just for talking to a arab babe.I will however remind that you mention 2 women that you did shag only in passing. I am not asking for a penthouse letters version, just enough to know the way you accomplished it. Wouldn't it be a robust report if you mentioned the risk AND reward?

PS I am beginning to think you hyped up the punishment(s) to show what a though big man you are to shag 2 women where both matters are far from the truth. Personally... no offense intended.

BTW, 5000 cane strokes in intervals of 100 every 3 months needs 12.5 years to complete. There's indeed a fine line between hype and BS. Bugs Bunny would say "You Marooon!"

Cheers!

Eric

Eric T
01-21-08, 07:31
Sure. I have. It depends who I chat to, where I chat to her, and when. Most of all, it depends IF she wants to chat or am I harassing her.

Whether the LE or Mutawwa deal with me or not also depends on my dumbass quotient. But I don't think anyone caught for cat calling would get a gajillion lashes.

You just have to be careful about it in a very common sense kind of way.

Cheers!

Eric


Try chatting up an Arab babe on Riyadh Street, and see if the police deal with you or not, don't take my word for it.

Some people learn the hard way. No offence to you either.

El Kapitan
01-28-08, 20:48
Can anyone help a techno-ignoramous get around the "blocked for my own good" problem?

I spend a LOT of time in the ME and would like to be able to see some boobies as I am not enough of a risk taker to try picking up the real deal.

Thanks in advance and PM is also fine.

Cheers

Ziggym
02-09-08, 15:28
Can anyone help a techno-ignoramous get around the "blocked for my own good" problem?

I spend a LOT of time in the ME and would like to be able to see some boobies as I am not enough of a risk taker to try picking up the real deal.

Thanks in advance and PM is also fine.

CheersTry anonymouse.org or hotspot shield. Its what I use when I need to bipass that garbage.

Alex Newbie
02-17-08, 22:36
Hey,

I've just come across this website ! How is KSA treating you guys?

Eric T
02-18-08, 13:41
Pretty good! :)

Eric
Hey,

I've just come across this website ! How is KSA treating you guys?

Jimmy The One
02-19-08, 17:36
Hi guys,

I'm off to Abu Dahbi at the end of this week, and then going to KSA for the first time. 3 nights in Riyadh, one night in Dammam and back to AD.

Can you give me any tips, dining spots, good hotel info, and anything else you think would be useful? I assume there is absolutely no action on either drink or girl front, am I right?

I get the feeling I will have to do all my naughtiness at Biltz or Meridien or Ally Pally in AD before I go to KSA!!

Ykurashi
03-02-08, 20:01
Anyone ever heard of a ukranian girl called Elaina? Shes been in bahrain for quite a long time now, she was staying in baisan in early 2000\'s and as for the past two years in Phoenicia, can't locate her and her number has been disconnected, going to bahrain soon and the only purpose to stay in phoenicia would be to meet her (she is by far the best GFE and performer I've ever seen in the gulf), [Email address deleted by Admin] please post me a mail if you know her number or any Ukranian/Russian girl staying in phoenicia, thanks mates!

P.S. Her best friends name in Phoenicia is called Angela.

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Eric T
03-03-08, 06:52
I could only wish there was a Phoenicia here :p

Eric

Twin1621
06-01-08, 20:27
Hey Mongers,

Thought you guys would like to know. I have found to options for getting though the neutral zone without being detected by a Kligon bird of prey.

1. Download Limewire, if you haven't already.

2. If you are on a Macintosh, download JAP.

Unfortunately, this will only aid you in self service, but, hey, this sure aint Bahrain.

Soulboy
10-10-08, 04:49
Hi,

I am looking for some tricks to find some mongers and LADIES. In Saudi. I am in Jubail. So please wake up guys.

Sardaar Ji
02-25-09, 22:19
Come on guys wakeup.

I know its a dry land but its not completly desrted place. Wakeup. Stop shagging and start sharing.

Sard

Tomwannabe
03-01-09, 16:12
Hi Chris,

Scuba diving and Ethiopian girls is a mix of interests that works for me very well too. It's not yet confirmed but if contract negotiations turn out good I'll be in Saudi (Jubail) from April/May 2009. Maybe we could get in touch then?

Tom


Hi folks,

I'm going to be moving to Saudi long term in a few months, and aside from trips to Bahrain, I was wondering about travelling to Eritrea? The two countries are separated only by the Red Sea, and Eritrean and Ethiopian girls are among the loveliest on the planet, and easily seduced judging by the Africa board - does anyone know of a ferry service from Saudi to Eritrea? Would it be possible to take a few days off, drive to the West coast of Saudi and take a boat over? What would be the timescale and cost of doing this? Are there drive-on ferries, or is it too Third World for that?

Could be quite a fun road trip - inexpensive, as no plane flights involved, just driving (very cheap in Arabia) and the ferry, followed by a trip to a very poor African country; and also the charms of those lissom, dark beauties, combining the most desirable aspects of negro and caucasian women, would be a great antidote to the veils and mullahs of Saudi. If anyone fancies joining me, it could be a good week!

Also, I'm a British citizen - what's the deal with coming and going from Saudi, both to Eritrea and more generally? I know that all non-Muslim foreigners have to get some special ID card, and have to leave Saudi at least once a year, right? Is it possible to simply up and leave for a few days and then return to Saudi, or do you have to pre-arrange all trips out of the country?

Cheers for any and all responses guys,

Chris

MumbaiCop
04-18-09, 10:17
Riyadh is one of the most easy place in saudi to get babes for sex action. Usually you can get PRC or filipinas for action. Cost can be about US $ 20 to 200 depending on the type. Thing to learn here is all normal ways to get girls in the world like Newspaper ads, massage parlours, asking hotel guys, taxi people, shop keepers will not work at all and it can actually make you prone to being under check, if they know what you intend to do. The only way is to get direct contact with these girls whom you can never see eye to eye in saudi.

I find it is easier to directly befriend foriegn girls work in hospitals etc. in saudi and ask them of any of thier friends want to do extras for money. Most girls who come from abroad here are for money and are sex straved anyway. I have had luck 5 out of 10 times and rest of times girls have not complained if they did not like my offers. You must know how to disguise the question and always select non muslim girls for this talking. Just ask their mobile number and go to other corner of room and talk on mobile to her so no one get a idea of two of you talking. Girls stay in small apartments and so you can fuck them in their homes. Always carry a bag of tools so if caught you can say you just came to fix her leaking pipe or something if caught. Now I have a contacts of about 15 girls from PRC mostly who I go to when I am in Riyadh for a week or so. They all cost atleast US$100 and above.

Stave
05-03-09, 21:17
Can you please tell me how and where to get girls in Riyadh. I am visiting Riyadh next week so wanna know all stuffs before I go. Please mail me if you like to share some more details at [Email address deleted by Admin]

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MumbaiCop
05-20-09, 08:15
If your visit is for less than a week forget it. It is too dangerous to indulge here. If you have 1 month or so, you can always get time to find PRC / indian girls contacts after befriending them. Still risk is high and not recommended unless you can get solid contacts.


Can you please tell me how and where to get girls in Riyadh. I am visiting Riyadh next week so wanna know all stuffs before I go. Please mail me if you like to share some more details at [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Tarees
05-21-09, 04:49
If your visit is for less than a week forget it. It is too dangerous to indulge here. If you have 1 month or so, you can always get time to find PRC / indian girls contacts after befriending them. Still risk is high and not recommended unless you can get solid contacts.The question is how and where you can befriend them?

MumbaiCop
05-21-09, 11:44
As I am telling you, this is what the scene was about 1 1/2 year ago when I was there for 3 weeks due to official work.

First contact I got in my case was from a room service boy in hotel who got friendly with me and told me about his using service of a women who was from south of india working in a arab's house doing maid's work. I was not keen to fuck a maid but in order to explore better possiblities asked him to let me contact her on phone. I also tipped him about $20 for this help and send another $20 for girl as gift and she called me on phone. After talking to her I was still wondering where I could arrange to meet her as hotel room was just not safe and the girl was staying in the employers house. Finally the girl arranged to meet in afternoon at her friend's place when no one was there. She sent me keys to the room and the hotel guy dropped me to the place and I was told to just enter without asking anyone directions etc. In the room I found I was alone and girl was not there. After calling up the girl said she will come in 1/2 hour and I waited for her. After 30-40 min the girl came to the room. She was very average looking but only choice I had. I had agreed to give her about $150 US in advance on phone and then it seem it was too much for her types. But in a moment after I paid she just started her act and I was more than satisfied with her service of BJ/Kiss/Fondling /Sex etc. She was worth all money. Afterward I asked her about next time and she told when ever I feel in the same way. But I asked her of any other girls she knew of this kind and she told that the friend of hers who was staying in the flat we were was also available and this girl was also working for her employer in some kind of health or spa thing. This girl was a PRC.

So after meeting this PRC and indian girl slowly I got more and more contacts and in remaining 10 days had about 6 sessions with these girls. I think I was lucky that I got first contact, but you can try to find a friendly guy was is staying alone and working in saudi since many need to use these services and know some source. But remember that these are not full time sex workers and so you need to satisfy them to rather than they satisfying you. The main reason for them to do this is that they want to have sex too since they are away from home and if they get paid for it they are all the more happy.


The question is how and where you can befriend them?

Stave
05-24-09, 06:39
Hey friend can you provide me with the contact nos on my email if possible please and also if the forum admin likes. Please do me this favour I will be going nexxt week anytime. Please do me that favour.

[Email address deleted by Admin]

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MumbaiCop
05-27-09, 08:52
Saudi forum is different from all others and it is just not safe to give contacts to any member because if it happens to be a cop or moral police disguised as a member the girls are in grat trouble which could be even stoned to death. So here you may follow tips and explore on your own. Being friends with foriegn national guys can be a help as they do frequent these girls in saudi. Try your luck there :)


Hey friend can you provide me with the contact nos on my email if possible please and also if the forum admin likes. Please do me this favour I will be going nexxt week anytime. Please do me that favour.

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LifeSavour
09-11-09, 14:21
I am going to Saudi for 1 year in 2 weeks.

I need advice on getting BOOZE?

Mdbksa
09-12-09, 23:10
I am going to Saudi for 1 year in 2 weeks.

I need advice on getting BOOZE?Hi LifeSavour,

Where in Saudi are you staying?

I'm in Jeddah, been here for the last 17 years.

Also what nationality are you?

MB

Razzor
09-13-09, 00:31
LS,

My advice, comes from two tours of duty in Saudi:

- Learn how to brew your own beer, easy using the near beer you can buy in Saudi, you just need bring in some beer yeast, just be careful taking it in with you.

- Make friends with other expats, British and Austrailian, they don't do without. You can always find a drink with them, but you need to bring something to the table as well.

As far as the female thing, work it up on Friendster before you get there, lots of Filipino Nurses to pick from.

Enjoy you time there, I did. One of the places in the world I got the most pussy.

RaZZorR
I am going to Saudi for 1 year in 2 weeks.

I need advice on getting BOOZE?

Gaolei
09-15-09, 01:29
it seems thailand is the place you cannot go if you are saudi. i understand they confirep001e your passport if it has a thai stamp in it. i am trying to get my saudi friend to bangkok this month for business and to show him around the clubs. is there a way to go to thailand for a saudi?

JP2U
09-15-09, 04:17
it seems thailand is the place you cannot go if you are saudi. i understand they confirep001e your passport if it has a thai stamp in it. i am trying to get my saudi friend to bangkok this month for business and to show him around the clubs. is there a way to go to thailand for a saudi?
he can go with a permit. if its business and he has papers to back him up, he can.

Flyhere
09-18-09, 22:13
Hi Guys,

I am bidding for some contract work in Saudi for 6 months or so (I'm assuming it's in Jeddah, don't think it would be in another city). I am paying my own expenses, would appreciate some ideas on the cost of living there.

So far I found:
Airfare LAX to JED US$1700 economy or US$10,000 business by Emirates.

1 or 2 bd furnished flat in a western compound (mura bustan, waiting for a quote) about SAR 70,000/yr = SAR 5,800/mth = US$ 1600/mth

groceries SAR 4000/mth = US$1000/mth

What should I budget for taxis and ground transporttation?

Anything I should budget for?

Thanks
fly

Bonker04
09-18-09, 23:30
The costs you have been quoted seem realistic.

There are quite good supermarkets in Saudi. My personal experience is more Riyadh than Jeddah, but probably similar. Jeddah is nicer to live than Rehab!
More things to do.

I would suggest renting a car, they are fairly cheap. But you will need an international driving licence. You might be lucky and be able to rent on your national licence, I think Avis let you, but usually you need an international.

Other things to budget for are regular airfares out of Saudi to regain your sanity!

Also you will not be able to access ISG there, due censorship!
You won't need it anyhow. The scene is very difficult. Lots of foreign workers, Fillipinos etc! Best to try and make contacts locally in that respect. Wages for them are generally very poor so they often will try and subsidise their meagre wages.

Good luck!

B04

Flyhere
09-19-09, 01:47
...
I would suggest renting a car, they are fairly cheap. But you will need an international driving licence. You might be lucky and be able to rent on your national licence, I think Avis let you, but usually you need an international.

Other things to budget for are regular airfares out of Saudi to regain your sanity!

Also you will not be able to access ISG there, due censorship!...
Bonker04

Thanks for the info., just to clarify:

Do you mean renting a car long-term and drive to work every day? or renting a car on the weekend to get around and do things? will try to search the net to see how much, do you have an idea, also I will obviously need insurance.

I know what you mean about getting out of Saudi regularly, I remember a co-worker telling me he used to fly out to Europe regularly to stay sane. I probably will get 1 week off every 3 months or so, and I am budgeting a return ticket to California, most likely to be used to go to Europe or somewhere nearby (any suggestions?). More often than that, do the expats get away on weekends? and where to?

Understand the situation with ISG, can you get around through a proxy server? like I used to do in China. Yeah, understand about making local contacts, will work on that if and when the time comes.

Many thanks
fly

Bonker04
09-19-09, 12:57
Bonker04

Thanks for the info., just to clarify:

Do you mean renting a car long-term and drive to work every day? or renting a car on the weekend to get around and do things? will try to search the net to see how much, do you have an idea, also I will obviously need insurance.

I know what you mean about getting out of Saudi regularly, I remember a co-worker telling me he used to fly out to Europe regularly to stay sane. I probably will get 1 week off every 3 months or so, and I am budgeting a return ticket to California, most likely to be used to go to Europe or somewhere nearby (any suggestions?). More often than that, do the expats get away on weekends? and where to?

Understand the situation with ISG, can you get around through a proxy server? like I used to do in China. Yeah, understand about making local contacts, will work on that if and when the time comes.

Many thanks
fly

Can't help you on car prices because my company provide it as part of the package. But I understand it's not too expensive. And petrol is dirt cheap!
The net is probably the best place to start.

If you've got a week to spare then Thailand is fun, about six hours away! But no direct flights, you'll have to change somewhere like Dubai or Qatar.
As for weekends, depends what you want to do. If you like scuba diving then of course the Red Sea is right on your doorstep. Hurghada or Sharm el Sheik in Egypt are close by and give great diving!

As for a proxy server to pick up ISG, maybe, but I haven't tried to be honest.
Never really stayed long enough to find out!

Sorry I don't seem to be much help! I try not to stay in Saudi longer than I have to!

Good luck!

B04

Flyhere
09-21-09, 06:14
Bonker04,

It turned out that the potential project is in Riyadh not Jeddah, not so good...have to do some more research now.

fly

Cand1980
10-06-09, 15:02
No need to worry about that. I have traveled many times through the airport and have never had my Laptop scanned. You should avoid bringing CD's with naked women dripping cum from their mouths on the cd label. If you do bring CD's. Bury them well with your clothes. If you have a lot of stuff, put it on a portable drive and put that in your checked luggage. You will be OK.

Twin -Next week I ll go to KSa from Baku. I am planning to take my 200 GB porn archive with me on a portable hard drive (1 TB). I ll hide that documents with a locker programs. Is there a chance for me to get catch at airport? Whats new news?

Could Some experienced travellers give some info I ll be so glad.

Thanks

Ann Dalis
10-07-09, 18:13
Next week I ll go to KSa from Baku. I am planning to take my 200 GB porn archive with me on a portable hard drive (1 TB). I ll hide that documents with a locker programs. Is there a chance for me to get catch at airport? Whats new news?

Could Some experienced travellers give some info I ll be so glad.

ThanksI''m from Saudi

Hard disks and laptop's HD will never be checked. Only CDs/Magazines, and only if your are suspicious or they are suspecting something.

They are old fashioned and its kindda a routine.

Usually these days things are more eased than before.

Relax man and enjoy :)

Lycan73
10-27-09, 10:41
I do not wish to offend anyone, but I'd like to know if there's any way to get laid in Makkah, the nationalities of the women I can get, and where I can look for them.

Lycan73
10-27-09, 10:43
It's been rather busy, for some reson people expect you to work if they pay you.

Went to Dubai for Gitex… But being the nerd that I am, I blew my "play" money on a new i-mate PDA2K, so couldn't afford any action (what a waste of a perfectly good trip).

Anyway to get to business, I've been promising a report on the holy city of Makkah, and it's about time that I gave it.

Most people do not realize this but the most active place for our kind of action in the Kingdom is the holy city. I can hear your gasps of shock as you read this but it is absolutely true.

Nakasa (a shanty town like area mostly peopled by citizens of Burma, Bangladesh, and African countries) is a hot spot for cat houses, with company available from ten Riyals ranging to one hundred Riyals. The quality found here is predominantly below average in looks and lousy (for the lack of a better word) in attitude.

Share Mansoor, there are portions of this area that even the police do not enter. You can find stolen goods, drugs, alcohol and for our purposes women of ill repute. The ladies here are mostly of African nations (Sudan, Nigeria, and Somalia dominate the group), I haven't sampled the goods available here, but have been told that the price ranges from fifty to two hundred Riyals.

Azizia, here you can find ladies from Pakistan, Indonesia, Eastern Europe and occasionally locals (Saudis). Just had a nice Pakistani girl (about an hour ago) from Multan, looks wise she was an 8/10 with a very nice rack, attitude was a 7/10 the cost was two hundred for a shot, no BJ or Anal. Rates in this area vary from nationality to nationality. Did find a Saudi girl in her early twenties last week paid six hundred for an hour and a half of her company, was worth twice what I paid, very enthusiastic did every thing including BBJ and anal. A bit skinny for my taste but a pretty good GFE.

Now for the shocker the area around the Holy Mosque. This is the hottest area to look for action in, especially during the Umrah and Hajj seasons. When ladies from all over the world come here. You can get Egyptians, Syrians, Moroccans, Indonesians, Eastern Europeans, Indians, Pakistanis and a whole lot more. A sure place to get some is Juffaly Building in Gazzah, where large Umrah/Hajj groups rent apartments, the Average price is around five hundred quality varies.It would be silly asking this after a post that's five years old, but is it true I can get laid in Makkah?

Clement
10-27-09, 16:12
i''m from saudi

hard disks and laptop's hd will never be checked. only cds/magazines, and only if your are suspicious or they are suspecting something.

they are old fashioned and its kindda a routine.

usually these days things are more eased than before.

relax man and enjoy :)i'm afraid that's not true: 6 months ago i had my external hard drive check and confirep001ed because it had porn, plus a fine of 600 sar (about 150 usd), and got filed (meaning if i get caught again i will be sent back and not allowed to come back to ksa).

on that same day everyone who had in their hand carry or suitcases usb drives, camera memory cards, . everything except the laptops. got checked.

Excellence
11-10-09, 23:39
Guys,

Any update about Jeddah, I heard that you can find a lot of things happening underground and different taste of girls, Philippine, Moroccan, even locals, but you need to contact the right person.

I will be there for 3 months how I'm gonna find that person.

Please advice,

Ex

MaximusBibicus
11-20-09, 03:49
Cab drivers in Jeddah. Make sure its a pakistani guy and they usually have numbers of the local girls.

If you go to an area called Sharfiya you can meet some local south indian men who supply women, but too risky.

Good luck

Black Spidey
12-03-09, 06:49
About a month back on my visit to KSA all of my CD's an DVD's were checked luckily for me it was non-pornography, but the contents were sensitive to the KSA government.

Freebie Sevman
12-30-09, 22:20
Kyiv Ukraine!

Anybody want/need anything?

JP2U
01-01-10, 20:34
Kyiv Ukraine!

Anybody want/need anything?
Well if your a female named 'freebie', sure. :D

L Ney
01-02-10, 12:25
What sort of fun is a person looking for?

Lets have some fun for new year guys.

Member #2136
01-17-10, 20:05
It would be silly asking this after a post that's five years old, but is it true I can get laid in Makkah?The answer is it depends... Meaning that it dpends on the season... If you were to go To Makkah in hopes of geting laid right now it would be slim picking as of the anual crackdown on illegals after Hajj. If you were to wait of a couple of months you would strike lucky, with many different nationalities (there is an explosion of provider during Ramadan and Hajj).

Member #2136
01-17-10, 20:13
i'm afraid that's not true: 6 months ago i had my external hard drive check and confirep001ed because it had porn, plus a fine of 600 sar (about 150 usd), and got filed (meaning if i get caught again i will be sent back and not allowed to come back to ksa).

on that same day everyone who had in their hand carry or suitcases usb drives, camera memory cards, . everything except the laptops. got checked.hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but even laptops are now being checked. the checking depends on the time of flight arrival, mood of the customs agent, wether you look shifty or not, phase of the moon and other variables.

i've had every thing checked including laptop and mobile. but two weeks later walked out inspection free with the same hardware.

if you absolutly must have porn:

1 - download it after getting to saudi
2 - if you live ther spend sar 800 get hotbird installed and one of those self decrypting sattalite recivers.

it is not worth bringing it in to the country.

Member #2136
01-17-10, 20:18
If you go to an area called Sharfiya you can meet some local south indian men who supply women, but too risky.

Good luckNot to mention that there is a high likelihood of getting Hepatitis, ghonerea, syphilis and other diseases. If you can get it up after seeing the “ladies” and the conditions you will be expected to perform in.

MaximusBibicus
02-02-10, 17:43
Not to mention that there is a high likelihood of getting Hepatitis, ghonerea, syphilis and other diseases. If you can get it up after seeing the “ladies” and the conditions you will be expected to perform in.I

Agreed 100 % I'm just conveying the message I get from the cabbys in Jeddah. Haha for some odd reason they always tell me stories of how some local saudi chicks are looking to make easy money for the guys.

Like I don't even initiate the conversation regarding that.

Another good place to meet girls are local compounds and beach resorts. However, these are non WG.

Regarding the laptop/HD scan I was totally pissed off. I had about 500 GB of porn that I deleted on the flight on the way back. I'm now regretting because I was let go without being checked.

Lycan73
02-04-10, 21:51
The answer is it depends... Meaning that it dpends on the season... If you were to go To Makkah in hopes of geting laid right now it would be slim picking as of the anual crackdown on illegals after Hajj. If you were to wait of a couple of months you would strike lucky, with many different nationalities (there is an explosion of provider during Ramadan and Hajj).What about during the non-Ramadan and non-Hajj days? I don't mind slim pickings. I want to know if it's possible and how the situation is then.

Lycan73
02-04-10, 22:06
The answer is it depends... Meaning that it dpends on the season... If you were to go To Makkah in hopes of geting laid right now it would be slim picking as of the anual crackdown on illegals after Hajj. If you were to wait of a couple of months you would strike lucky, with many different nationalities (there is an explosion of provider during Ramadan and Hajj).How's the situation during the non-Ramadan and non-Hajj days, around the year? I don't mind slim pickings, but is it possible to get laid then?

Cool Toad
02-16-10, 03:46
Hi All,

I have been working in Saudi for a while now, according to me the best place to get laid in Saudi is Jeddah, its a wonderful place for mongers best people for help would be Taxi Drivers who can guide you.

Was in a resort & Private Beach in Jeddah, was surprised to see at what I saw there most of the customers there were air-hostess from Europe and I guess with the right approach one can easily get laid there, I even saw Saudi and Arab chicks there in swim wear, but these resorts are extremely expensive.

For regular people Nurses working in Saudi are the best bet.

Thanks

Dixan
02-17-10, 00:23
Hello All,

I visited Saudi three times in the last year (arrival/departure: Jeddah airport) and my IT stuff was never scanned. Actually I was surprised to read about this porn check here.

I have a question: If I use a software, to create a virtual, encrypted drive on my notebook HDD or external HDD for porn storage, could it be a safe solution?
May they become suspicious on finding an encrypted file and asking the password to open it/map it to scan the content? And what if I say I don't know what is that file or what is the password to map it? May I be forced in any way to disclose the password?

MaximusBibicus
03-03-10, 20:52
Well it depends on the person I guess. I'm an arab and I always talk nicely with the guys, but this time I was moving back so I didn't want to risk it with my porn.

Anyways. Any fellow mongers from north america, Dubai etc currently in Jeddah?

What is happening folks?

Johnny Maldiva
04-07-10, 06:13
Hello All,

I visited Saudi three times in the last year (arrival/departure: Jeddah airport) and my IT stuff was never scanned. Actually I was surprised to read about this porn check here.

I have a question: If I use a software, to create a virtual, encrypted drive on my notebook HDD or external HDD for porn storage, could it be a safe solution?
May they become suspicious on finding an encrypted file and asking the password to open it/map it to scan the content? And what if I say I don't know what is that file or what is the password to map it? May I be forced in any way to disclose the password?I'm not sure if they can force you to give up a password, but keep in mind that no matter how encrypted your HDD may be, there's always some computer whiz that can decrypt it. If a law enforcement agency deems it suspicious enough, there may be little you can do to prevent it being thoroughly checked.

Best bet is to have no trace of porn on anything you bring in or leave a country and dispose/store it away as soon as you don't need it when you're in the country. Another thing you can do is disguise an external device as something you can simply carry on and off the airplane without hassle, but the device may trigger a buzzer if it contains a suspicious material, like metal.

Wicked Roger
04-09-10, 08:01
Now guys, I know this is KSA and life can be tough and hard to find suitable pussy but my observations as follwos

1. Try harder, be nice, smile and hang around hospitals as though you are injured - you do meet a few cuties that way. malls can be fun also just takes more patience
2. Many girls on DIA etc are much chubbier than the picture so I always insist on cam first-if you do meet them without a cam first have a getaway plan....especially if they are 10-20kgs heavier than they said they were!!!
3. Some of the cuter and sexier ones are located in way out places like Hail, Qatif, Abha - why do they tease us so much :D
4. I have a major love of Filipinas and so far have been looked after, some in pigtails and schoolie outfit, some airline girls who just want a respectable older man (well I am until their clothes are off :D)...just takes patience

Had nice meeting with Maximusbibicus, great guy lots of energy and once I get sorted we will party albeit very discretely.

Met with my old mate Makhu as well - we end up discussing the merits of Filipina pussy (a topic close to both our hearts) and agreed many nurses etc here eat too much, dont exercise and their photos give a false impression - and I am not in any way a chubby chaser but happy to help those who are. Hence my planned trip to PI is coming soon (Max - come with me you will enjoy)

So they is life here if you are patient, try hard, smile, be a gentleman until you are naked.....

11Bravo
04-09-10, 09:21
I have a question: If I use a software, to create a virtual, encrypted drive on my notebook HDD or external HDD for porn storage, could it be a safe solution?
May they become suspicious on finding an encrypted file and asking the password to open it/map it to scan the content? And what if I say I don't know what is that file or what is the password to map it? May I be forced in any way to disclose the password?TrueCrypt has a solution to this exact problem:
http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/

Look in left hand column,
-Introduction
-Beginner's Tutorial
-Plausible Deniability
-Hidden Volume

I quote:
It may happen that you are forced by somebody to reveal the password to an encrypted volume. There are many situations where you cannot refuse to reveal the password (for example, due to extortion). Using a so-called hidden volume allows you to solve such situations without revealing the password to your volume.
...
Important: When an adversary asks you to mount an outer volume, you, of course, must not mount the outer volume with the hidden volume protection enabled. You must mount it as a normal volume (and then TrueCrypt will not show the volume type "Outer" but "Normal"). Note that during the time when an outer volume is mounted with the hidden volume protection enabled, the adversary can find out that a hidden volume exists within the outer volume (he/she will be able to find it out until the volume is dismounted).
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Basically, besides a bunch of normal files in the encrypted volume, you create ANOTHER encrypted volume within the standard encrypted volume. As pointed out, as TrueCrypt free space looks like random data, it is not possible to tell the difference between free space and encrypted data.

Two different passwords are used. You reveal the standard password. It shows the files you've encrypted. The hidden volume does not show up in the file list. Only by entering the 2nd password can you open this hidden volume that contains the "real" files.

Just make sure you stick a bunch of "reasonable" files in the standard volume - tax returns are a good example, company documents another.

Only trouble is if there are few files in the standard volume and the total volume size is large - that might raise suspicions about the existence of a hidden volume. Just say it's free space, for growth, as it's not possible to increase the volume size once the volume has been created.

Of course, they will know that you have something there, but proving it is another matter, as long as you can hold to your story.

If they insist, just ask them to copy the "reasonable files" to an unencrypted area, and delete the encrypted volume. Yes, you lose your porn, but save your money.

I've always used the encrypted file container method, rather than a full disk encryption. But a full disk is possible.

Or you could skip bringing in the porn :)

LifeSavour
04-12-10, 09:13
Wicked R!

Are you in KSA? I've been here (from Ukraine) since January.

I joked with pals I was going to 'sex & alcohol' prison.

Arrived at the Boudil Hotel in riyahd and look what I found near the 'lift'. Ha ha

I've solved the one problem. Now working on the 2nd!

Looking to get paroled soon.

LS

MaximusBibicus
04-18-10, 18:09
Thanks WR,

Indeed it was a pleasure meeting you.


Now guys, I know this is KSA and life can be tough and hard to find suitable pussy but my observations as follwos

1. Try harder, be nice, smile and hang around hospitals as though you are injured. You do meet a few cuties that way. Malls can be fun also just takes more patience

2. Many girls on DIA etc are much chubbier than the picture so I always insist on cam first-if you do meet them without a cam first have a getaway plan. Especially if they are 10-20kgs heavier than they said they were!

3. Some of the cuter and sexier ones are located in way out places like Hail, Qatif, Abha. Why do they tease us so much

4. I have a major love of Filipinas and so far have been looked after, some in pigtails and schoolie outfit, some airline girls who just want a respectable older man (well I am until their clothes are off). Just takes patience

Had nice meeting with Maximusbibicus, great guy lots of energy and once I get sorted we will party albeit very discretely.

Met with my old mate Makhu as well. We end up discussing the merits of Filipina pussy (a topic close to both our hearts) and agreed many nurses etc here eat too much, don't exercise and their photos give a false impression. And I am not in any way a chubby chaser but happy to help those who are. Hence my planned trip to PI is coming soon (Max. Come with me you will enjoy)

So they is life here if you are patient, try hard, smile, be a gentleman until you are naked.

Tomwannabe
05-01-10, 23:22
Hello, well, holidaying now outside the internet deadzone (I. E. Outside the middle east) giving me access to a vital. Resource.

Wanted to add some info on the "Magic Kingdom", the biggest emotional void ever encountered. But, living close to Bahrain, there's an escape route; at least for the weekends. So, how to get laid in Saudi?

Backdrop:

Any alcohol even alcohol containing products such as real Tiramisu cake or licour pralines are prohibited. Women are usually veiled; if they show their faces it means they are expats. Women are not allowed to drive. Companies are either 100% male OR 100% female. No mixing whatsoever at the work place. Except Aramco which isn't really Saudi. Nobody, not even Saudis can sit together with females unless married. Eateries, restaurants, sports venues have separate areas and entrances for single men and families/women. Should you ever be invited to a house you'll NEVER see your host's wive. Small children ok, teenage daughters or wives out of the question. Even holding hands in public is a big no no. Secret and Religious police is everywhere. Yet, young men and women alike as well as expats are bored to death. Naturally. This creates opportunities, howerver extremely risky. In other words: don't even think of going near a Saudi woman unless you want to get yourself into trouble, I. E. Deported or worse (usually for the woman. That "honour killing thing" you know.)

Anyway, potential avenues are (if you have the energy to follow through which I don't because of the proximity to Bahrain):

1) go to hospitals. Invent some illness or whatever excuse to go there regular. You'll meet unveiled women, nurses, doctors etc., usually philipinas but also Indians and similar. My observation: not many attractive ladies, a lot of them rather grumpy. But it depends on the hospital I guess.

2) Shopping malls and supermarkets: wander around the isles. Some philipina or other asian expat girl (maids, care takers, nurses etc) might show interest. You'll notice, e. G. Looks, lingering beside you when checking out the stacked shelfs. Just use common sense. It happend twice to me in a space of 6 months but I wasn't interested (I rather pay for quality then getting an ugly bird for free).

3) living on compounds with lots of western expats: they have their parties, do their own booze. Quite a few single women. Drawback: usually old and rather not attractive, yet single or divorced. But not for me.

4) If you believe you must live on the edge or don't care getting deported or worse: Wander around fancy malls (doesn't work if you're posted in some small crap town. Just bad luck for ya) and have your blue tooth mobile switched on. Sit down somewhere, scan what's close to you and try to make contact that way. It is possible (remember, the boredom.) to get in touch with a saudi woman. It will be long winded and meeting up will be an impossible challenge. And it is extremely risky for both. Not my cup of tea.

5) Equally risky: meet up with the wrong folks, e. G. Indians/Bangladeshis who pimp out girls illegally. There is an undercurrent in Saudi, you bet. But it is risky. Sometimes these undertakings get busted.

Anyway, 1) to 5) are there but as I said before I haven't tried any of them because I just couldn't be asked or targets worthwhile enough to pursue werent' around.

Substitute: porn. Different ways and risks had been discussed before. Here's an idea: download the hot stuff outside Saudi, compress it into chunks using any free zip tool such as 7zip. Open some hotmail, yahoo and Gmail accounts and create some draft emails with chunks attached. You'll need a few accounts because you can only store so many draft emails with attachments. Check out what's possible with each. No need to send them to yourself, eh? In Saudi, "harvest" the chunks from your email accounts and stick 'them back together using that zipping tool. It's a bit tedious, but you'll have enough time for it anyway. This way there's no need for encryption or whatever trying to smuggle it through on your laptop's hard drive. Let them scan it. They won't find a thing on it. Mind you, don't forget to delete the stuff from your hard drive before crossing borders. So far I haven't had my laptop checked but this to happen is only a question of 'when'.

Bottomline: if you're close to places that get you out of Saudi where fun can be had, save your energy and money for those. If you're posted out in the sticks (e. G. Drill hole in the middle of the desert) just suck it up until you get out. If you do live in big cities, Jeddah is easiest for it is the most tolerant place in Saudi. Dammam/Khobhar or Riyadh offer avenues 1) to 5).

Happy Hunting & don't be stupid. It's not worth it.

PS: u'll find plenty of typos. Good for ya 'because you can keep 'them.

TheyStoleMyName
05-29-10, 01:19
Any alcohol even alcohol containing products such as real Tiramisu cake or licour pralines are prohibited.I used to believe this, too, but I've since found out it's not entirely accurate. You can get alcohol-containing products in Saudi Arabia, like hair cream, mouth wash, disinfectant, etc. Bringing it into the country is possible but much more dangerous than it's worth, IMO. However almost every compound makes its own alcohol. You can always find it at the parties there.


Women are usually veiled; if they show their faces it means they are expats.No it doesn't. I've seen unveiled Saudis. I've met unveiled Saudis and gone out on dates with them and their unveiled friends and met all of their unveiled sisters. In public.


No mixing whatsoever at the work place. Except Aramco which isn't really Saudi.This really depends on the workplace. Hospitals and clinics for instance have mixed staff. So do all the airlines that operate within the country, including Nas, Sama, and Saudi Airlines. The university I used to work at was a mixed campus though there was segregation by building.


Should you ever be invited to a house you'll NEVER see your host's wive. Small children ok, teenage daughters or wives out of the question.Not true. Actually I was shocked at first when a Saudi family invited me to tutor their children and this included sessions with the pubescent daughter where she and I sat alone together in a room with a closed door for 2 hours a day with no supervision. It's rare that you'll see the wife but in more liberal families you may.


Even holding hands in public is a big no no.I've seen people do it at the malls.


don't even think of going near a Saudi woman unless you want to get yourself into trouble, I. E. Deported or worseoh, please. Yes, it's risky. But don't even think about it? Are the muttawa policing people's thoughts now? I've talked to several Saudi girls in public. Been out on dates with 4 of them. Had 2 over to my apartment. Had crazy phone sex with another. And chat with dozens online every day. Every Saudi male who has never read the book before will tell you that "Girls of Riyadh" is full of lies, but in my experience the book was actually pretty tame compared to the reality.


Anyway, potential avenues are (if you have the energy to follow through which I don't because of the proximity to Bahrain)So in other words, you haven't done any of this and are talking out of your ass. Well, just so we're clear, there's not actually anything wrong with that. Hearsay and rumor can be better than no information at all as long as you're up front with the fact that that's what it is.


2) Shopping malls and supermarkets: wander around the isles. Some philipina or other asian expat girl (maids, care takers, nurses etc) might show interest.I get looks all the time, and more of them from locals than from expats. They're not all ugly as you claim, either. I've met some real cuties that way.


3) living on compounds with lots of western expats. Drawback: usually old and rather not attractive, yet single or divorced.If you get involved in the compound party scene I've found it's the exact opposite of this. They usually have a party every weekend, they just change the venue. It's often all the same people at every party. And most of them are kids. I didn't see any old or divorced women at the party I went to, it was mostly teenagers and a couple of young 20-somethings. Being 30 myself and not really part of the this clique of people that all obviously knew each other, I felt like the odd bird out. The girls were mostly young skanky European girls who didn't know how to hold their liquor and were grinding and getting finger banged out on the dance floor, but there were also lots of people from African and Arab countries. If you look Saudi you might have trouble getting in, though. Typically the party organizers will try to exclude Saudis to avoid arousing the attention of the morality police.


4) If you believe you must live on the edge or don't care getting deported or worse: Wander around fancy malls (doesn't work if you're posted in some small crap town. Just bad luck for ya) and have your blue tooth mobile switched on. Sit down somewhere, scan what's close to you and try to make contact that way. It is possible (remember, the boredom.) to get in touch with a saudi woman. It will be long winded and meeting up will be an impossible challenge. And it is extremely risky for both. Not my cup of tea.Why do you keep commenting on the difficulty and risk of any of this stuff when you admit you haven't tried any of it?

IMO the bluetooth thing is the worst way to go. It's just frustrating. Most of the girls you might find this way don't speak English and you're right it is a lot of work with very little payoff. Having a phone with blue tooth (and a good photo of yourself renamed to include your phone number ready to send at a moment's notice) is a good assist to the method of walking around malls or shopping areas to meet girls. But as a primary means of meeting them it sucks. The best procedure is to get a girls' attention first, make eye contact, and if she seems interested then you might want to check and see if she has her bluetooth switched on.


Anyway, 1) to 5) are there but as I said before I haven't tried any of themWorth reiterating


Substitute: porn. Different ways and risks had been discussed before. Here's an idea: download the hot stuff outside SaudiTerrible idea. Just use a web proxy. It's so easy. Or use torrents. You can download anything you want.

Anyway, thanks for the report. But you missed the two best venues IMO if you are serious about meeting people in Saudi.

1. The internet. The single best way by far to meet girls here. Avoid all the stupid bullshit hassle of trying to find them in public.

2. The diplomatic quarter. If you live in Riyadh there are many different functions, parties and events hosted at the DQ. These are almost always a good place to meet women.

That's all. Peace out.

**** Connoisseur

TheyStoleMyName
05-29-10, 01:36
Well it depends on the person I guess. I'm an arab and I always talk nicely with the guys, but this time I was moving back so I didn't want to risk it with my porn.

Anyways. Any fellow mongers from north america, Dubai etc currently in Jeddah?

What is happening folks?I live in Saudi and frequently come through the airports in Riyadh, Jeddah, and Dammam. I have scads of porn on both of my laptops and stored in my digital camera. Gobs of it. A plethora of pornography. Anyone just opening up my computer and looking at the desktop would see it.

It's never been a problem. I've never once been asked about anything I was bringing in to the country. In fact the first time I came in at King Khaled Airport in Riyadh, I think I could have smuggled in Jenna Jameson if I had wanted to. Security was minimal and the customs guys were standing about 40 meters off and just waved me through without xray or anything.

I think it does help to be "White" and American. Though of course nothing in Saudi is a guarantee pretty much everything is done on an arbitrary basis. So, indulge at your own risk.

TheyStoleMyName
05-29-10, 01:49
Visited there in May, in the light of recent posts here thought I should comment. I was totally resigned to a sex and alcohol free ten days. All the staff in the hotel were male, including the chambermaids, and there was a police car parked outside the main hotel lobby 24/7, although the guy was asleep every time I looked. All the staff were either Sri Lankans or Indians with the occasional Filipino. After a couple of days I was bantering one of the waiters about the terrible alcohol-free beer, saying I didn't know which was worse, no pussy or no beer. The next morning he was on sentry duty while I was waiting for my lift, he told me that he could get me some beers for a price and they would be put in the fridge in my room; great I said, can you do anything about the pussy? For a price I said. Maybe he said. That night I found two beers in the fridge and an envelope with a phone number and a time on it; I called saying I was the guy from the hotel when an indian accented woman answered. About an hour later I opened my door to a quite attractive girl, quite dark, said she was from Kandy, Tamil area of Sri Lanka. Quite good looking, about 30, very petite; obviously dressed the Saudi way until inside the room. She had been smuggled in up the service lift I gather, how appropriate. Could have been one of the waiters wives for all I know, but she wasn't very chatty, preferring to work on me. Stayed about 2 hrs, had sex, great blowjob, swallowed, but declined anal saying I was far too big. I guess I was, as she was not 5' tall. Saw her twice in the 10 days, settled up with the waiter at the end for all services provided so I can't really say how much she cost per service.

Makes the prospect of a return visit in Sept much less problematic!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.I was with a great Sri Lankan beauty in Singapore. Would love to find another. Any chance you can share the information about which hotel this was? If not the actual contact info for the girl (not in the public forum, and I would pm you but I think I need to be a paying member first)

TheyStoleMyName
05-29-10, 01:52
Last week was in Riyadh and stayed in the SAS Radisson. No girls activity at all, even I didn´t see any female during the day, maybe some guests, but I didn´t see them.AtlasJet keeps most of their flight attendants at the Radisson SAS. Some very cute Filipina girls there.

One of them used to be my girlfriend. She was HOT. :D

MaximusBibicus
06-01-10, 18:33
I live in Saudi and frequently come through the airports in Riyadh, Jeddah, and Dammam. I have scads of porn on both of my laptops and stored in my digital camera. Gobs of it. A plethora of pornography. Anyone just opening up my computer and looking at the desktop would see it.

It's never been a problem. I've never once been asked about anything I was bringing in to the country. In fact the first time I came in at King Khaled Airport in Riyadh, I think I could have smuggled in Jenna Jameson if I had wanted to. Security was minimal and the customs guys were standing about 40 meters off and just waved me through without xray or anything.

I think it does help to be "White" and American. Though of course nothing in Saudi is a guarantee pretty much everything is done on an arbitrary basis. So, indulge at your own risk.Yea the thing with me is, I look like an arab and hold a foreign citizenship. When at malls or check points I will be asked to stop and when they see my ID they let me go.

If your skin is white you are lucky and you got through. And as well as your lucky to get girls. Saudi girls are crazy about "white man".

Let me know if you ever travel to Jeddah, we can meet for a drink (coffee). And WR is here too.

TheyStoleMyName
06-03-10, 09:18
Yea the thing with me is, I look like an arab and hold a foreign citizenship. When at malls or check points I will be asked to stop and when they see my ID they let me go.

If your skin is white you are lucky and you got through. And as well as your lucky to get girls. Saudi girls are crazy about "white man".

Let me know if you ever travel to Jeddah, we can meet for a drink (coffee). And WR is here too.If you know any Arab girls crazy for white guys in Jeddah that you'd like to introduce me to let me know and maybe I'll take you up on that offer. My treat for the coffee.

Tomwannabe
06-14-10, 20:45
Theystolemyname, I wrote a general message on how to get laid in Saudi. This is based on my observation, experience and what I've been told first hand over the past year I am now based here (Eastern province) and no, it's not hearsay or rumours and perhaps you are more careful before applying the you're-talking-out-of-your-ass broad brush. So, I shall furnish the finer details of living in Saudi. How likely one gets laid here depends on where you are posted and to what kind of social circles you have access to. You also got to be lucky. From what you wrote you were rather lucky. So, here we go then. It's going to be a novel but describing the more intricate details of living in Saudi isn't a 4 line poem I am afraid.

Getting booze: nice to hear one can get alcohol from cosmetics, mouth wash, disinfectant, etc. But if you read my post carefully I was referring to FOOD containing alcohol. And that's not possible. I bought, for example, Tiramisu cake and there was no alcohol in there. Yes, booze is made in the western compounds, mostly wine (the South Africans are quite good at it) and also add distilled booze to none alcoholic beer (not sure whether or not they distill this from mouth wash. Hope they don't). The result is a terrible tasting brew I only tried twice. (Judging by what faces Saudi newbies pull when they'll come to their first expat party my judgement isn't that far off the truth then.)

The finer details on booze: It is smuggled into saudi by members of the higher echelon of saudi society, I. E. Those who will be almost untouchable even by the religious police such as police chiefs, princes and the like. Those who get caught smuggling booze and even drugs are the underlings of such operations. Needless to say those poor sods will get punished. You can get real Jack Daniels for example inside the Aramco campus when I was there as well as through embassies' partis I guess because such places are not the ordinary Saudi environment but somewhat exclusive with limited or no access of the religious police.

Thank you for agreeing that it is rare to see Saudi wifes/daughters at Saudi houses. Again, you were lucky. I've been to several functions and been invited to Saudi houses but the usual custom is that you will never see older daughters nor wifes because you'll be welcomed and taken care of in a separate guest room and away from the rest of the family. You working at a university changes the situation slightly. Some finer details on this: yes, hospitals and airlines will have unveiled Saudi women. As for hospitals it depends. I've been to a hospital where they were unveiled and to a smaller clinic where only none-Saudis were unveiled.

Don't compare your university experience with the rest of Saudi. Separate buildings you wrote but INSIDE THE SAME CAMPUS. Well that's indeed a vital detail changing the game plan considerably. Again, count yourself lucky you were in such a comfortable position. The finer details: A while ago I went to an open air show in a private club in Khobar, a huge campus with private beach, sports hall, several swimming pools, squash, tennis etc. Member fees are steep which means only the well heeled Saudi families go there (I. E. More liberal) and only families may join this club or, as an exception to that rule, you may get entry if there is an event you have tickets for even if you are single. I had. This club, again, operates a little bit outside the Saudi norm, I. E. Most women were unveiled during that event and it happened to be a popular event, I. E. I witnessed the congregation of about 200 unveiled Saudi girls(!) (some very pretty) and even spoke to some in the restaurant inside the campus once the event was over. Also, it makes a different whether or not you are a muslim or none muslim expat and whether or not you speak arabic. The effect of the former I am not sure about, the latter certainly helps.

Point 2. On meeting girls in public: shopping malls are possible. Yes, I also noticed the glances from Saudi girls, mostly veiled. Maybe I should follow through one day but this is risky. And yes, meanwhile, in Khobar, even though it is rare but I've seen unveiled Saudi girls. However, I also noticed that sometimes they quickly put their veils back on once they notice your glances. Why is talking to Saudi girls risky in public, the finer details: the religious police has the right to interfere. You, as a white expat might just get a tongue lashing and that will be it but it can be worse for the girl. Just because it never happened to who you know does not mean it never will.

Point 3. Western compounds, the finer details: Yes, I agree that the expat parties are fairly stable groups and newbies will take their time to get in. This makes it somewhat boring because you'll meet the same folks and their usually small kids over and over again. As far as I've been to such parties I have to say I'd rather have fun in Bahrain than trying to 'get fresh' with one of those bored (frustrated) middle aged western gals nor with any of the, and I quote, "skanky Europeans". As for "skanky" it applies equally to their American, Australian or South African 'brethren' by the way. So, after I went to a few of these parties I got the drift eventually and rather don't go. Indeed, Saudis are kept out as far as possible to not attract the wrong kind of attention. Well, this fact alone should be telling enough what Saudi is like outside the "green zones" such as western compounds, diplomatic areas/embassies or exclusive private clubs.

How good (or bad) the compound party life is also depends on the city. I've been told first hand that there is a party every day if you want to once you established the right connetions in Riaydh. That's also because all the embassies are there which also host parties or dinners and their staff, naturally, are a bit above the law. The most open place. As far as one can say open in Saudi. Seems to be Jeddah from what I've been told. Expats who were posted there told me only good things about Jeddah.

Point 4: thanks for agreeing that going the bluetooth way is long winded and frustrating. That tip with the picture is a good one. I might try this one day for the heck of it to see what happens.

Internet: I've heard of proxies, yes. Just didn't yet bother fiddling about with it. Well, I now did and it worked.

Meeting girls online: which chat or dating site did you use that is good? Free or pay site? I tried once a dating site, arabs2arabs dot com, but soon found out this to be a scam (still get emails from that site saying "a female member is interested in my profile". Yeah, right.) only trying to extort money.

Diplomatic Quarter: good for those living in Riyadh. I don't. And as I said before embassies are a "green zone" not to be compared with ordinary Saudi life, culture and traditions.

Sharing general experience and advice when living in Saudi: there are several groups such as Yahoo, e. G. Expatsinsaudiarabia. Google it to find them and subscribe if you like, well, for general info not for mongering of course. One story from Riyadh from that group about two months ago: a saudi girl from a liberal saudi family used to visit western compounds and go to their parties. Eventually she got snitched and the muttawa collected here once she left a compound. Apparently her luck was their parents to have the necessary connections (wasta) so that nothing happened to her. Again, she was lucky. Another story from there that was confirmed by an email distribution from my embassy: two british women had been pelted with stones by Saudi teenagers outside a shopping mall in the fancy Olaya district. The security guards did NOT step in. Sure, mugging and all that happens everywhere, in particular in large cities, be it London, New York etc. I just wanted to mention this incident not as a scare but to set things in the right perspective.

Hotels: expensive 5 star hotels seem to be a bit of green zone as well. I've seen unveiled saudi girls there too when I attended a business meeting that happened to take place in a 5 star hotel. As for that Sri Lankan girl provided by a friendly waiter, well done. Since I live here I usually don't check into hotels. I am also not sure whether it was just luck to get that sort of 'service' in the hotel you stayed or whether this is possible in 5 star hotels in general across Saudi; if you can befriend a resourceful waiter while staying there that is.

Oh, by the way, I read "The girls of Riyadh" which is indeed a very interesting read. But, again, don't compare the higher echelons of society, called the 'velvet class' in this book with the rest of Saudi. If you are lucky enough to get introduced to the velvet class your life WILL indeed be different here.

White or not: you'll be left alone usually if you are white, better still white american because of the political/diplomatic issues any incarceration of US citizen could cause the Saudi government is reluctant to deal with just because some dickhead was stupid enough to get caught trying to smuggle in booze/porn/whatever. You'll be less likely searched at airports in the Middle East. Take note of 'less likely'. Yes, usually the customs dudes can't be asked but if you're unlucky and they are in a bad mood they might take your luggage apart. You wouldn't be the first one ending up in custody for a day or so until your sponsor using its 'wasta' got you out. Being searched hasn't happen to me yet, so, as previous posters said you may take your porn/booze/pork chops etc. Into the country at your risk. Chances are you'll get away with it. In fact many times over. But if you don't who'd been warned

The finer details of using proxies: search the web for "free proxy" and patiently click through the search results. You will find most proxy sites/proxy server download sites blocked but not all. I don't post any links here because Saudi's web filters are being updated, so, a proxy you used before might not work eventually. Just move on to the next.

Finally the best bit: You wrote "I've met unveiled Saudis and gone out on dates with them and their unveiled friends and met all of their unveiled sisters. In public. " Wohoo! Can you please be more specific how you met them, what their families are like, whether or not their parents knew about it (I guess so considering their friends and sisters knew), how far it went (I. E. Going out and talking or staying over at your apartment, perhaps even overnight and including sex, possibly with their parent's knowlegde?), and when you went out in "public" where you actually went that you call 'public'? I guess you also went to their house? If so, what sort of area was that house in? I guess a rich area where the neighbours don't care so much who that family's daughters are seen with? That's not normal for Saudi families because they'll do anything to protect their and their daughters reputation if they ever wanted them to get married off to DECENT. Read well to do. Guys with a respected background (Saudi society is very tribal. A Saudi surname often is an indication what tribe you're from and how powerful that tribe is). In other words, the finer details would be significant to know, yes?

But hey, if I'd ever be in Riyadh we could meet up and you show me since 'talk is cheap' they say not without reason: you and your unveiled Saudi girlfriend, their sister(s) and me strutting about in broad daylight holding hands in the middle of a busy but ordinary shopping street, I. E. NOT in any of the "green zones"; wouldn't that be a sight, eh?

Eric T
06-15-10, 12:12
...How likely one gets laid here depends on where you are posted and to what kind of social circles you have access to. You also got to be lucky. From what you wrote you were rather lucky...

Nobody died and made me judge but in order to to vet reports of Tomwannabe and Theystolemyname; I will say that Tom provides the "real ksa" version whereas Theystolemyname's version is of someone who has passed the White, Westerner, Privileged, In (or has access to)-a-good-location/sector, and Lucky filter.

Valid reports but entirely different view/vantage points.

Eric

TheyStoleMyName
07-02-10, 21:27
Nobody died and made me judge but in order to to vet reports of Tomwannabe and Theystolemyname; I will say that Tom provides the "real ksa" version whereas Theystolemyname's version is of someone who has passed the White, Westerner, Privileged, In (or has access to)-a-good-location/sector, and Lucky filter.

Valid reports but entirely different view/vantage points.

EricUh. Yes, I'm a "White" "Westerner". Whooptee do. I'm certainly not any more privileged than any other Westerners here. I don't live on a compound. I don't know anybody who lives on a compound (not well, anyway). I've only been to a single compound party during the last two years here. I've never hung out at prince's secret orgy houses or anything. I've heard about underground Saudi dance parties but the people who said they would take me to one never actually followed through on that. I live in a quiet Saudi neighborhood. I work in a building where there are no women allowed. I don't feel especially lucky at all.

Trust me I am NOT special. I'm tall, I'm reasonably attractive. Yeah. I'm "White, " and I'm a "Westerner. " But I'm not Whiter or more Western than any of the other Westerners I work with.

I know how to talk to women. I take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves. That's all. I'm not connected. Honestly I think my success rate over the last year or so has been pretty sad, and much lower than it would be in any other country in the world most likely.

Tom ADMITS that he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's up front with the fact that he hasn't tried most of these things. His report is of the variety of the "well, I heard all these rumors about life in Saudi and I feel like some of them might be true so I'm going to make all these really broad over-generalizations about what is or isn't true without any real experience to back it up. " That's MY take. Actually I read a lot of similar things before coming to the KSA, more conjecture, rumor, and hearsay. And when I got here I found out that a lot of it is simply not true. A lot of what he said was just patently false.

How is my report not "real? " I only posted things that I have actual firsthand experience with. Not rumors I heard. Not things I read elsewhere and reposted. Not guesses or feelings. I'm as real as it gets.

That said if you're an Indian or Filipino guy reading these forums, then yeah, of course, you're going to have a different experience in the KSA. Most Saudis will treat you like dirt, much less sleep with you. So. Sorry about that. That doesn't mean I'm lucky. Just means that Saudis are racist. I have no problem conceding that.

TheyStoleMyName
07-02-10, 21:37
Nobody died and made me judge but in order to to vet reports of Tomwannabe and Theystolemyname; I will say that Tom provides the "real ksa" version whereas Theystolemyname's version is of someone who has passed the White, Westerner, Privileged, In (or has access to)-a-good-location/sector, and Lucky filter.

Valid reports but entirely different view/vantage points.

EricGod damn it.

I wrote a much better response to this and it was lost when the page failed to load.

Anyway, my post is as real as it gets. Yeah I'm "White" and "Western" but no Whiter or more Western than any other Westerner that lives here. Tom admits he doesn't really know what he's talking about and is just posting guesses, yet you think his post represents the "real KSA? " Whatever. Everything I posted was from real personal experience. None of it was luck. I'm reasonably attractive. I take advantage of opportunities that present themselves, most of the time. That's all. I'm not connected. I've been on a compound ONCE since I got here. Never been to any secret parties or orgies or anything like that. If you're an Indian or Filipino trying to get by here. I feel sorry for you. Saudis are racist douche bags and they will treat you like shit. Your experience will be different from my own and you'll have to find different things to do. Maybe you can take advantage of the fact that there are huge networks/communities of Asian expats here, something that westerners don't have going for them. But if you are western and not a troll there's no reason why you can't do everything I did. My success rate over the past year has been pretty abysmal in my own estimation, actually. If I was anywhere else in the world I'm sure I would have had more action than here.

TheyStoleMyName
07-02-10, 22:15
This is based on what I've been told first hand over the past year and no, it's not hearsay or rumoursPlease look up hearsay and rumor and explain to me how YOU posting on the board about what SOME OTHER PERSON told you is NOT hearsay. This is the DEFINITION of the word.


How likely one gets laid here depends on where you are posted and to what kind of social circles you have access to. You also got to be lucky. From what you wrote you were rather lucky.I'm not lucky. I'm not posted anywhere special. I live in a quiet Saudi neighborhood in one of the most conservative cities in the country. I'm sure I'm better off than somebody stuck in Tabuk. But. Everyone seems to think the Eastern Provinces and Jeddah are better than here.


So, here we go then. It's going to be a novelgreat.


But if you read my post carefully I was referring to FOOD containing alcohol.Is your whole post going to be like this? Are you really that sensitive? Who gives a shit if you said FOOD or not. Let's share information and stop patting ourselves on the back, that's going to make me sick real fast and I won't stick around for the conversation.


Again, you were lucky.No I wasn't.


the usual custom is.You know this would be a much more effective way of phrasing your observations, rather than saying that something always happens a certain way 100% of the time. Most of the time when I was correcting you it was over some over-broad generalization like this. Like when you said that Saudis never go without niqab. That's just flat wrong. Maybe the majority of women you see without veils are non-Saudi, but there's a big difference between those two statements. Yes, it's the custom in most places around Saudi Arabia for men and women to be separate inside the house when there is company over.


You working at a university changes the situation slightly.I was only there for a month.


Don't compare your university experience with the rest of Saudi.I'm not. I wasn't talking about the university. Actually the university campus was for the most part completely segregated. But I can walk outside, right now, at close to midnight. Go to any of the six malls within walking distance of my house. And I will see a Saudi girl without a veil covering her face. The majority wear niqab but not all of them. Do you actually know any Saudi girls? I talk to them every day. I'm friends with some of them. I've dated a couple. You're over-generalizing and I don't know why. Dramatic effect? Or you just don't want to admit that you said something that wasn't 100% true? Like the alcohol in food bit before.


Also, it makes a different whether or not you are a muslim or none muslim expat. The effect of the former I am not sure abouthaha. Then why even bring it up? You just said, "this makes a difference, but I'm not sure if it makes a difference or what that difference is."


blah blah blah the finer details: the religious police has the right to interfere.. Just because it never happened to who you know does not mean it never will.Yes we all know. But once again, I am relating my REAL personal experience. You are spreading rumors and guesses. I've been here two years and had one encounter with the CPVPV and it was over music in my car, not girls. That's not to say that people don't get in trouble for it, but at least I have tried it and can speak from experience about what happened to me. I can tell you what I read in the newspaper, but why? Anybody here can pick up the newspaper and read the same story.


Point 3. Western compoundsWhatever party you went to was different than the one that I went to. All I have to say.

There were no American girls at the party I went to. They were all European. Why does this matter? (please don't respond and tell us all why it matters in 2-3 paragraphs. Just DROP it)


Meeting girls online: which chat or dating site did you use that is good? Free or pay site? I tried once a dating site, arabs2arabs dot com, but soon found out this to be a scam (still get emails from that site saying "a female member is interested in my profile". Yeah, right.) only trying to extort money.yeah that site is shit. So is ArabMatchMaker and almost all of them out there to be honest.

Facebook and Myspace are good, but you'll have to go through 100 girls before you find any that want to talk to you. And there are certain approaches that work best there that won't occur to the average guy.

Muslima.com is a legit site and the company that runs the site is good. All of their sites are legit I've used several of them. The problem with Muslima.com is that it is supposed to be a matrimonials site for devout Muslims. So. Good luck.

FilipinaHeart, run by the same company that does Muslima, is an excellent resource. So good in fact I'd be hesitant to share it because I don't want to increase my competition. But I think I'm done with that site for the time being and I'll be leaving this stupid country soon.

I also found some girls on Hot or Not but that site is blocked in Saudi and there is no option to search for girls in Saudi so it's not really the best option.


two british women had been pelted with stones by Saudi teenagers outside a shopping mall in the fancy Olaya district. The security guards did NOT step in. Sure, mugging and all that happens everywhere, in particular in large cities, be it London, New York etc. I just wanted to mention this incident not as a scare but to set things in the right perspective.I don't envy any woman here. I doubt any are reading these posts, but if they are, I'd advise they never go out by themselves or if they do, they find a trusted driver first and don't walk around outside unescorted.


As for that Sri Lankan girl provided by a friendly waiter, well done.That was somebody else's story. You got me mixed up with another guy. The only Sri Lankan girl I've ever been with was a prostitute in Singapore who was very pretty and had a body like a Barbie Doll.


"The girls of Riyadh". Is indeed a very interesting read. But. Don't compare the higher echelons of society. With the rest of Saudi.I only make comparisons where valid comparisons can be made. The girls in Girls of Riyadh are quite similar to many girls that I've met in Saudi Arabia. The ones I know are for the most part not as wealthy or privileged. But they are very similar in how they think, in their desires, in their experiences with men, etc.


take your porn/booze/pork chops etc. Into the country at your risk. Chances are you'll get away with it. In fact many times over. But if you don't who'd been warnedI know. I think I said the exact same thing. No need to warn me.


Finally the best bit: You wrote "I've met unveiled Saudis and gone out on dates with them and their unveiled friends and met all of their unveiled sisters. In public. " Wohoo! Can you please be more specific how you met them, what their families are like, whether or not their parents knew about it (I guess so considering their friends and sisters knew), how far it went (I. E. Going out and talking or staying over at your apartment, perhaps even overnight and including sex, possibly with their parent's knowlegde?), and when you went out in "public" where you actually went that you call 'public'? I guess you also went to their house? If so, what sort of area was that house in? I guess a rich area where the neighbours don't care so much who that family's daughters are seen with?whoah. You're assuming an awful lot there. I didn't say half of that stuff.

Alright, fine, I'll share the story behind every Saudi girl I've met in person here in my next post. Since you ask.

The holding hands. I wouldn't be that bold, actually. I've seen a couple people doing this at the mall. They were the same or similar ethnicity and I assume they were married, or else just pretty damn ballsy. I've only seen it a couple times. I've never gone out with a girl here who looked like me and I know that this makes us more of a target for muttawa because they assume we are not related, so I wouldn't bother trying to bring MORE attention to us by holding hands.

TheyStoleMyName
07-02-10, 23:08
i'm not this vain. but. whatever. someone requested this info so here goes. i'll be vague for obvious reasons.

these are only the girls that i have actually met in person. there are many, many more that i have known but only online or over the phone.

girl 1: american. "black. " muslim. i met her on facebook. here with her mother. her mother knows that she goes out all the time and doesn't mind. we met four times, i think. one time we met in a mall parking lot. she stayed in the taxi cab and called me to tell me to get in. we went to eat at an asian restaurant. the next time we met and then went downtown to stroll around the king abdulaziz museum and eat falafel. after that she tried coming over to my hotel room once, but one of the bengali hotel staff followed us upstairs and was staring at us, which made her very uncomfortable, so she left. the next time i told her to sneak in through the garage and successfully got her in my room. we watched a movie. it got "sexual, " but we didn't have sex. made her feel awkward and i didn't see her after that.

girl 2: was walking through the mall when i saw a couple girls, one with unveiled face and one with a veil and a baby carriage. saudi. the unveiled one was smiling very broadly at me. my friend and i went and sat down near them at the coffee place they were at. when we did this, the staff rushed out and told the women they had to leave. we got up and followed them into a store. after shadowing them for a while, the unveiled girl finally said "okay. give me number. " i did.

that night at 4 am she called me and started masturbating on the phone. her english was awful. she was trying to talk dirty but didn't even know the word for penis. "what name for man part ungh ungh ungh? " she asked me inbetween moans.

we tried to set up a meeting but it was extremely difficult given her poor english and my non-existent arabic. i think she may have been married and looking to cheat but it's really kind of hard to say- her english was that bad.

once i told her to meet me at the mall at 4:30 and she thought i meant immediately. so she went there while i was still at work.

when we finally managed to coordinate a time to be at the mall together, the plan was that we would meet there and then walk together back to my house. but instead, she showed up and acted like she didn't know me. i followed her around and she was not answering her phone. infuriating. but some saudis tell me that this is their equivalent of a date.

this happened two more times. made plans to meet her. met up at the mall. she acted like she didn't know me. and she was still calling me up in the middle of the night and masturbating all the time.

i couldn't take all the shenanigans so finally told her to stop. she did.

girl 3: a saudi girl in a full hijab and niqab (veiled). still looked cute. i could tell she was smiling at me when i saw her at the used furniture store. my friend asked as she walked past "what's your name? " she turned around, a little shocked, and told us. friend and i followed at a safe distance for a while. when she was sitting by herself my friend engaged the shop owner in some bargaining over the price of a mattress and i walked past the girl. she put out her hand and i slipped my phone number into her palm and walked away. she called later but her english was atrocious. i got her msn id, and talked to her there. she told me she wanted me to fuck her and pop her cherry. but it never actually happened.

girl 4: a saudi girl at the mall. in a veil, not sure what she looked like, but again i could tell she was smiling at me. she was sitting with her young brother. i got fairly close and checked my bluetooth. there was one in english that's id was "hello, its me. " i sent my photo with my phone number to her and walked away. she called me.

didn't hear from her after that until several months later. but then she spent most of her energy trying to convert me and tell me about islam. we never went on a proper date.

girl 5: a saudi girl that messaged me on facebook in response to something i had posted. from a well-known family. her family is. moderate. probably more liberal than most. they let her work and go out but don't know she is meeting western men. she was not a virgin and neither was her sister. we talked online for a while and agreed to meet at a restaurant.

i got to the restaurant first and told them i was meeting my wife there. i went up to the family section and waited for the girl to arrive. we ate dinner, then after dinner she took me to a mall for coffees and to meet her two younger sisters.

i was seeing this girl for a while. we would go out for dinner or lunch and nobody ever bothered us, except actually for the first night we had coffees when some random old woman started asking the girls in arabic who this man was that they were with and they told her to mind her own business. sometimes the girl and her sister and me and my roommate would all go out together to the mall and walk around together. they were unveiled and there was no issue.

she and her sister came over to my house several times. we got naked a few times. engaged in cunnulingus. almost had intercourse, but she stopped me and told me she felt like she was cheating. turns out she was hung up on some other guy she had never told me about.

anyway we stopped seeing each other over that and she decided to try and make things work out with this other guy.

before that, though. we were talking about being a couple. she did want me to come over to her house and meet her whole family. but i never actually did that. we were never officially a couple. she asked me to marry her at one point, more so that she could be emancipated from her family than anything else, but we decided against this. she tells me her family would have approved as long as i converted to islam but i don't know, i never met them aside from the sisters.

girls 6 and 7: girl 5's two younger sisters. i know i probably could have hooked up with girl 6. but my roommate was interested and i stepped out of the way. now she is in the usa with him. girl 7 was way **** so let's not go there.

girl 8: an absolutely gorgeous saudi girl i met online. we met up for sort of a double-date (i brought along my roommate and she brought along her chubby friend) at a starbuck's. sat together in the family section. neither of them were veiled, inside or outside. we went to eat at a buffet. then we went together to go bowling. lots of young saudi guys were staring at us very intently. some smiling wry smiles. some just open-mouthed stares. probably dangerous to go there.

after she said that she had a good time and wanted to see me again. but we never actually did. i asked why, and if it had anything to do with the fact that i was being a little forward (i was holding her hand in the car, put my hands on her shoulders when we were outside and it was cold). she said maybe. i don't know what the real story was.

girl 9: young filipina girl i met online. she invited me to some event at the filipino embassy.

girls 10 and 11: friends of girl 9. i think i had a real shot with 10 except she moved back to the philippines. she seemed to like me a lot.

girls 12, 13, 14: filipina nurses i met at the embassy. all three were interested in me. but they were having trouble getting out of their accommodation, and none of them were really that cute. i never saw any of them again even though one is still trying to be my girlfriend.

girl 15: african. muslim. her family has been thoroughly saudi-ized, though, and has lived here for a generation. i met her at an event at the us embassy. she is the one that invited me to the one compound party i went to. we were seeing each other periodically, but not commonly. we've tried having sex several times but the best we did was oral. she's still a virgin and afraid of both the pain of first coitus and also afraid her father will actually murder her if he finds out. the last time we tried to have sex she came over with her young brother who stayed outside and watched movies on my tv. we have met up at the mall before, along with her brother and cousin, but got comments from some who saw a "white" guy sitting with some "black" girls to be suspicious. we've also gone walking outside but she always walks behind me, afraid that people will know we're not related and be suspicious. her mother knows all about me and is approving of the relationship. her father doesn't know anything. he's trying to arrange marriages for her with african guys but she doesn't want this.

girl 16: filipina nurse i met online. we met in a mall parking lot and went straight to my house. we watched a movie then got naked together but mostly just humped. i didn't see her again after that. she moved back to the philippines eventually. she says she'll have sex with me if i go to visit her there.

girl 17: super hot filipina flight attendant i met online. we were officially a couple but we lived in different cities. i went to see her a few times and slept in her room at the radisson sas. first 2 times there was no problem but the 3rd time some of the hotel staff complained to her employer and i had to stop coming out. lots of good sex, and we walked around the malls in jeddah openly without incident or problem. we also ate together in the family sections of restaurants there.

girl 18: even hotter filipina nurse. met her online. she worked at a much bigger more liberal hospital than the other nurses i met at the embassy. it was no problem for me to go and pick her up from her on-campus housing at the hospital. i took a taxi there, told security i came to visit her, i was let in, she walked out and got in the taxi and we went straight back to my house where we watched half a movie and had sex. just a one night stand.

girls 19 and 20: african-saudi sisters. both model-gorgeous. muslim. they met me at a restaurant and we ate lunch together. one of them wants to marry me. she told her family and they're okay with it as long as i pay a big dowry. don't think that's going to work out though.

those are all the ones that i've met in person here, unless i forgot one.

on top of that there are tons that i have only met online and never in person. some of them are quite beautiful. some are quite young. most of them tell me that they're in love with me by the third conversation and ask me to marry them. but really it's hard to take them seriously when we've never actually met. i know that's how things are done here but from my perspective that's crazy.

almost none of these girls ever told their families about me unless otherwise mentioned. sometimes they bring along sisters or brothers or cousins because it's easier for them to get out of the house if they are going with family members. the brothers/sisters know what's going on usually, even if they are very young.

hope you appreciate all this, took me a while to remember and type it all up.

Member #4364
07-03-10, 19:18
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Camel Toe Jockey
07-08-10, 02:21
Girl 17. Which one? I've had several of those SAS girls. You have to be careful, the company management doesn't like 'outsiders' touching 'their' girls. It's a shame.

TheyStoleMyName
07-10-10, 22:44
Girl 17. Which one? I've had several of those SAS girls. You have to be careful, the company management doesn't like 'outsiders' touching 'their' girls. It's a shame.AtlasJet is run by Turks, and from what I've heard from the many girls I know who work for them, they do like to use their employee pool as sort of their own personal harem. But it's also my understanding that they stopped bothering with the Filipina girls as soon as they brought on a bunch of Moroccans, who are not staying at the Raddisson SAS.

I had a relationship with one of the hottest Filipinas there, no I'm not going to tell you which one, and I know that several more of the Filipinas have ongoing relationships both in and out of the country, some with their coworkers but several with people who are not with the company. Many of them are pretty out in the open about it, too.

Phish
08-10-10, 16:52
i'm not this vain. but. whatever. someone requested this info so here goes. i'll be vague for obvious reasons.

these are only the girls that i have actually met in person. there are many, many more that i have known but only online or over the phone.

girl 1: american. "black. " muslim. i met her on facebook. here with her mother. her mother knows that she goes out all the time and doesn't mind. we met four times, i think. one time we met in a mall parking lot. she stayed in the taxi cab and called me to tell me to get in. we went to eat at an asian restaurant. the next time we met and then went downtown to stroll around the king abdulaziz museum and eat falafel. after that she tried coming over to my hotel room once, but one of the bengali hotel staff followed us upstairs and was staring at us, which made her very uncomfortable, so she left. the next time i told her to sneak in through the garage and successfully got her in my room. we watched a movie. it got "sexual, " but we didn't have sex. made her feel awkward and i didn't see her after that.

girl 2: was walking through the mall when i saw a couple girls, one with unveiled face and one with a veil and a baby carriage. saudi. the unveiled one was smiling very broadly at me. my friend and i went and sat down near them at the coffee place they were at. when we did this, the staff rushed out and told the women they had to leave. we got up and followed them into a store. after shadowing them for a while, the unveiled girl finally said "okay. give me number. " i did.

that night at 4 am she called me and started masturbating on the phone. her english was awful. she was trying to talk dirty but didn't even know the word for penis. "what name for man part ungh ungh ungh? " she asked me inbetween moans.

we tried to set up a meeting but it was extremely difficult given her poor english and my non-existent arabic. i think she may have been married and looking to cheat but it's really kind of hard to say- her english was that bad.

once i told her to meet me at the mall at 4:30 and she thought i meant immediately. so she went there while i was still at work.

when we finally managed to coordinate a time to be at the mall together, the plan was that we would meet there and then walk together back to my house. but instead, she showed up and acted like she didn't know me. i followed her around and she was not answering her phone. infuriating. but some saudis tell me that this is their equivalent of a date.

this happened two more times. made plans to meet her. met up at the mall. she acted like she didn't know me. and she was still calling me up in the middle of the night and masturbating all the time.

i couldn't take all the shenanigans so finally told her to stop. she did.

girl 3: a saudi girl in a full hijab and niqab (veiled). still looked cute. i could tell she was smiling at me when i saw her at the used furniture store. my friend asked as she walked past "what's your name? " she turned around, a little shocked, and told us. friend and i followed at a safe distance for a while. when she was sitting by herself my friend engaged the shop owner in some bargaining over the price of a mattress and i walked past the girl. she put out her hand and i slipped my phone number into her palm and walked away. she called later but her english was atrocious. i got her msn id, and talked to her there. she told me she wanted me to fuck her and pop her cherry. but it never actually happened.

girl 4: a saudi girl at the mall. in a veil, not sure what she looked like, but again i could tell she was smiling at me. she was sitting with her young brother. i got fairly close and checked my bluetooth. there was one in english that's id was "hello, its me. " i sent my photo with my phone number to her and walked away. she called me.

didn't hear from her after that until several months later. but then she spent most of her energy trying to convert me and tell me about islam. we never went on a proper date.

girl 5: a saudi girl that messaged me on facebook in response to something i had posted. from a well-known family. her family is. moderate. probably more liberal than most. they let her work and go out but don't know she is meeting western men. she was not a virgin and neither was her sister. we talked online for a while and agreed to meet at a restaurant.

i got to the restaurant first and told them i was meeting my wife there. i went up to the family section and waited for the girl to arrive. we ate dinner, then after dinner she took me to a mall for coffees and to meet her two younger sisters.

i was seeing this girl for a while. we would go out for dinner or lunch and nobody ever bothered us, except actually for the first night we had coffees when some random old woman started asking the girls in arabic who this man was that they were with and they told her to mind her own business. sometimes the girl and her sister and me and my roommate would all go out together to the mall and walk around together. they were unveiled and there was no issue.

she and her sister came over to my house several times. we got naked a few times. engaged in cunnulingus. almost had intercourse, but she stopped me and told me she felt like she was cheating. turns out she was hung up on some other guy she had never told me about.

anyway we stopped seeing each other over that and she decided to try and make things work out with this other guy.

before that, though. we were talking about being a couple. she did want me to come over to her house and meet her whole family. but i never actually did that. we were never officially a couple. she asked me to marry her at one point, more so that she could be emancipated from her family than anything else, but we decided against this. she tells me her family would have approved as long as i converted to islam but i don't know, i never met them aside from the sisters.

girls 6 and 7: girl 5's two younger sisters. i know i probably could have hooked up with girl 6. but my roommate was interested and i stepped out of the way. now she is in the usa with him. girl 7 was way **** so let's not go there.

girl 8: an absolutely gorgeous saudi girl i met online. we met up for sort of a double-date (i brought along my roommate and she brought along her chubby friend) at a starbuck's. sat together in the family section. neither of them were veiled, inside or outside. we went to eat at a buffet. then we went together to go bowling. lots of young saudi guys were staring at us very intently. some smiling wry smiles. some just open-mouthed stares. probably dangerous to go there.

after she said that she had a good time and wanted to see me again. but we never actually did. i asked why, and if it had anything to do with the fact that i was being a little forward (i was holding her hand in the car, put my hands on her shoulders when we were outside and it was cold). she said maybe. i don't know what the real story was.

girl 9: young filipina girl i met online. she invited me to some event at the filipino embassy.

girls 10 and 11: friends of girl 9. i think i had a real shot with 10 except she moved back to the philippines. she seemed to like me a lot.

girls 12, 13, 14: filipina nurses i met at the embassy. all three were interested in me. but they were having trouble getting out of their accommodation, and none of them were really that cute. i never saw any of them again even though one is still trying to be my girlfriend.

girl 15: african. muslim. her family has been thoroughly saudi-ized, though, and has lived here for a generation. i met her at an event at the us embassy. she is the one that invited me to the one compound party i went to. we were seeing each other periodically, but not commonly. we've tried having sex several times but the best we did was oral. she's still a virgin and afraid of both the pain of first coitus and also afraid her father will actually murder her if he finds out. the last time we tried to have sex she came over with her young brother who stayed outside and watched movies on my tv. we have met up at the mall before, along with her brother and cousin, but got comments from some who saw a "white" guy sitting with some "black" girls to be suspicious. we've also gone walking outside but she always walks behind me, afraid that people will know we're not related and be suspicious. her mother knows all about me and is approving of the relationship. her father doesn't know anything. he's trying to arrange marriages for her with african guys but she doesn't want this.

girl 16: filipina nurse i met online. we met in a mall parking lot and went straight to my house. we watched a movie then got naked together but mostly just humped. i didn't see her again after that. she moved back to the philippines eventually. she says she'll have sex with me if i go to visit her there.

girl 17: super hot filipina flight attendant i met online. we were officially a couple but we lived in different cities. i went to see her a few times and slept in her room at the radisson sas. first 2 times there was no problem but the 3rd time some of the hotel staff complained to her employer and i had to stop coming out. lots of good sex, and we walked around the malls in jeddah openly without incident or problem. we also ate together in the family sections of restaurants there.

girl 18: even hotter filipina nurse. met her online. she worked at a much bigger more liberal hospital than the other nurses i met at the embassy. it was no problem for me to go and pick her up from her on-campus housing at the hospital. i took a taxi there, told security i came to visit her, i was let in, she walked out and got in the taxi and we went straight back to my house where we watched half a movie and had sex. just a one night stand.

girls 19 and 20: african-saudi sisters. both model-gorgeous. muslim. they met me at a restaurant and we ate lunch together. one of them wants to marry me. she told her family and they're okay with it as long as i pay a big dowry. don't think that's going to work out though.

those are all the ones that i've met in person here, unless i forgot one.

on top of that there are tons that i have only met online and never in person. some of them are quite beautiful. some are quite young. most of them tell me that they're in love with me by the third conversation and ask me to marry them. but really it's hard to take them seriously when we've never actually met. i know that's how things are done here but from my perspective that's crazy.

almost none of these girls ever told their families about me unless otherwise mentioned. sometimes they bring along sisters or brothers or cousins because it's easier for them to get out of the house if they are going with family members. the brothers/sisters know what's going on usually, even if they are very young.

hope you appreciate all this, took me a while to remember and type it all up.

dude i loved your post... i have never been to saudi nor do i have an intention to go there in the immediate future, however as a monger i like to keep my skills sharp on where opportunities exist around the work. yours was an excellent indepth view to saudi - very informative & useful.

thanx man... best of luck.

Stu Cazzo
08-29-10, 16:34
great report.

which social netwrok sites would you recommend for meeting girls in riyadh?

stu cazzo


i'm not this vain. but. whatever. someone requested this info so here goes. i'll be vague for obvious reasons.

these are only the girls that i have actually met in person. there are many, many more that i have known but only online or over the phone.

girl 1: american. "black. " muslim. i met her on facebook. here with her mother. her mother knows that she goes out all the time and doesn't mind. we met four times, i think. one time we met in a mall parking lot. she stayed in the taxi cab and called me to tell me to get in. we went to eat at an asian restaurant. the next time we met and then went downtown to stroll around the king abdulaziz museum and eat falafel. after that she tried coming over to my hotel room once, but one of the bengali hotel staff followed us upstairs and was staring at us, which made her very uncomfortable, so she left. the next time i told her to sneak in through the garage and successfully got her in my room. we watched a movie. it got "sexual, " but we didn't have sex. made her feel awkward and i didn't see her after that.

girl 2: was walking through the mall when i saw a couple girls, one with unveiled face and one with a veil and a baby carriage. saudi. the unveiled one was smiling very broadly at me. my friend and i went and sat down near them at the coffee place they were at. when we did this, the staff rushed out and told the women they had to leave. we got up and followed them into a store. after shadowing them for a while, the unveiled girl finally said "okay. give me number. " i did.

that night at 4 am she called me and started masturbating on the phone. her english was awful. she was trying to talk dirty but didn't even know the word for penis. "what name for man part ungh ungh ungh? " she asked me inbetween moans.

we tried to set up a meeting but it was extremely difficult given her poor english and my non-existent arabic. i think she may have been married and looking to cheat but it's really kind of hard to say- her english was that bad.

once i told her to meet me at the mall at 4:30 and she thought i meant immediately. so she went there while i was still at work.

when we finally managed to coordinate a time to be at the mall together, the plan was that we would meet there and then walk together back to my house. but instead, she showed up and acted like she didn't know me. i followed her around and she was not answering her phone. infuriating. but some saudis tell me that this is their equivalent of a date.

this happened two more times. made plans to meet her. met up at the mall. she acted like she didn't know me. and she was still calling me up in the middle of the night and masturbating all the time.

i couldn't take all the shenanigans so finally told her to stop. she did.

girl 3: a saudi girl in a full hijab and niqab (veiled). still looked cute. i could tell she was smiling at me when i saw her at the used furniture store. my friend asked as she walked past "what's your name? " she turned around, a little shocked, and told us. friend and i followed at a safe distance for a while. when she was sitting by herself my friend engaged the shop owner in some bargaining over the price of a mattress and i walked past the girl. she put out her hand and i slipped my phone number into her palm and walked away. she called later but her english was atrocious. i got her msn id, and talked to her there. she told me she wanted me to fuck her and pop her cherry. but it never actually happened.

girl 4: a saudi girl at the mall. in a veil, not sure what she looked like, but again i could tell she was smiling at me. she was sitting with her young brother. i got fairly close and checked my bluetooth. there was one in english that's id was "hello, its me. " i sent my photo with my phone number to her and walked away. she called me.

didn't hear from her after that until several months later. but then she spent most of her energy trying to convert me and tell me about islam. we never went on a proper date.

girl 5: a saudi girl that messaged me on facebook in response to something i had posted. from a well-known family. her family is. moderate. probably more liberal than most. they let her work and go out but don't know she is meeting western men. she was not a virgin and neither was her sister. we talked online for a while and agreed to meet at a restaurant.

i got to the restaurant first and told them i was meeting my wife there. i went up to the family section and waited for the girl to arrive. we ate dinner, then after dinner she took me to a mall for coffees and to meet her two younger sisters.

i was seeing this girl for a while. we would go out for dinner or lunch and nobody ever bothered us, except actually for the first night we had coffees when some random old woman started asking the girls in arabic who this man was that they were with and they told her to mind her own business. sometimes the girl and her sister and me and my roommate would all go out together to the mall and walk around together. they were unveiled and there was no issue.

she and her sister came over to my house several times. we got naked a few times. engaged in cunnulingus. almost had intercourse, but she stopped me and told me she felt like she was cheating. turns out she was hung up on some other guy she had never told me about.

anyway we stopped seeing each other over that and she decided to try and make things work out with this other guy.

before that, though. we were talking about being a couple. she did want me to come over to her house and meet her whole family. but i never actually did that. we were never officially a couple. she asked me to marry her at one point, more so that she could be emancipated from her family than anything else, but we decided against this. she tells me her family would have approved as long as i converted to islam but i don't know, i never met them aside from the sisters.

girls 6 and 7: girl 5's two younger sisters. i know i probably could have hooked up with girl 6. but my roommate was interested and i stepped out of the way. now she is in the usa with him. girl 7 was way **** so let's not go there.

girl 8: an absolutely gorgeous saudi girl i met online. we met up for sort of a double-date (i brought along my roommate and she brought along her chubby friend) at a starbuck's. sat together in the family section. neither of them were veiled, inside or outside. we went to eat at a buffet. then we went together to go bowling. lots of young saudi guys were staring at us very intently. some smiling wry smiles. some just open-mouthed stares. probably dangerous to go there.

after she said that she had a good time and wanted to see me again. but we never actually did. i asked why, and if it had anything to do with the fact that i was being a little forward (i was holding her hand in the car, put my hands on her shoulders when we were outside and it was cold). she said maybe. i don't know what the real story was.

girl 9: young filipina girl i met online. she invited me to some event at the filipino embassy.

girls 10 and 11: friends of girl 9. i think i had a real shot with 10 except she moved back to the philippines. she seemed to like me a lot.

girls 12, 13, 14: filipina nurses i met at the embassy. all three were interested in me. but they were having trouble getting out of their accommodation, and none of them were really that cute. i never saw any of them again even though one is still trying to be my girlfriend.

girl 15: african. muslim. her family has been thoroughly saudi-ized, though, and has lived here for a generation. i met her at an event at the us embassy. she is the one that invited me to the one compound party i went to. we were seeing each other periodically, but not commonly. we've tried having sex several times but the best we did was oral. she's still a virgin and afraid of both the pain of first coitus and also afraid her father will actually murder her if he finds out. the last time we tried to have sex she came over with her young brother who stayed outside and watched movies on my tv. we have met up at the mall before, along with her brother and cousin, but got comments from some who saw a "white" guy sitting with some "black" girls to be suspicious. we've also gone walking outside but she always walks behind me, afraid that people will know we're not related and be suspicious. her mother knows all about me and is approving of the relationship. her father doesn't know anything. he's trying to arrange marriages for her with african guys but she doesn't want this.

girl 16: filipina nurse i met online. we met in a mall parking lot and went straight to my house. we watched a movie then got naked together but mostly just humped. i didn't see her again after that. she moved back to the philippines eventually. she says she'll have sex with me if i go to visit her there.

girl 17: super hot filipina flight attendant i met online. we were officially a couple but we lived in different cities. i went to see her a few times and slept in her room at the radisson sas. first 2 times there was no problem but the 3rd time some of the hotel staff complained to her employer and i had to stop coming out. lots of good sex, and we walked around the malls in jeddah openly without incident or problem. we also ate together in the family sections of restaurants there.

girl 18: even hotter filipina nurse. met her online. she worked at a much bigger more liberal hospital than the other nurses i met at the embassy. it was no problem for me to go and pick her up from her on-campus housing at the hospital. i took a taxi there, told security i came to visit her, i was let in, she walked out and got in the taxi and we went straight back to my house where we watched half a movie and had sex. just a one night stand.

girls 19 and 20: african-saudi sisters. both model-gorgeous. muslim. they met me at a restaurant and we ate lunch together. one of them wants to marry me. she told her family and they're okay with it as long as i pay a big dowry. don't think that's going to work out though.

those are all the ones that i've met in person here, unless i forgot one.

on top of that there are tons that i have only met online and never in person. some of them are quite beautiful. some are quite young. most of them tell me that they're in love with me by the third conversation and ask me to marry them. but really it's hard to take them seriously when we've never actually met. i know that's how things are done here but from my perspective that's crazy.

almost none of these girls ever told their families about me unless otherwise mentioned. sometimes they bring along sisters or brothers or cousins because it's easier for them to get out of the house if they are going with family members. the brothers/sisters know what's going on usually, even if they are very young.

hope you appreciate all this, took me a while to remember and type it all up.

TheyStoleMyName
09-02-10, 17:12
Answer #12 Post #242

Free Happy Bird
09-17-10, 20:58
Greetings,

I trust everyone is doing well and having fun.

Cheers,

Jimmy