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Free Happy Bird
07-22-11, 00:42
Hello, folks,

I trust everyone is doing well.

I am a Canadian, visiting Phom Penh. Check my posts at Dubai Forum.

I am staying at Hotel Cambodiana.

Is Hotel Cambodiana GF? Can I take 2 or 3 girls there?

Is it better to order service in or should I go and hunt out?

If order service in, what are my options?

If hunting out, what are your recommendations?

As usual, I always return the favors and reward my friends.

Have a Great Day.

Cheers,

Jimmy

Riverstar
07-22-11, 16:05
I am trying to track down a girl I met on a previous visit called Yen she was on the chubby side with big tits an fuzzy hair although not a looker she loved having sex and

Would go wild in bed, I picked her up at Rose Bar but she didn't work there she was attending a party. If anyone can help I would be very grateful

Liggi1
07-22-11, 22:13
Is the CASA Hotel in PP girlfriendly?

Melack
07-22-11, 23:58
Do you mean Rachel?


I am trying to track down a girl I met on a previous visit called Yen she was on the chubby side with big tits an fuzzy hair although not a looker she loved having sex and

Would go wild in bed, I picked her up at Rose Bar but she didn't work there she was attending a party. If anyone can help I would be very grateful

Melack
07-23-11, 00:07
I know a similar girl named Rachel, didn't work in a bar.

Big smile, dark, chubby, big tits and fun.

If you think its her then message me and I will send you a pic to confirm.


I am trying to track down a girl I met on a previous visit called Yen she was on the chubby side with big tits an fuzzy hair although not a looker she loved having sex and

Would go wild in bed, I picked her up at Rose Bar but she didn't work there she was attending a party. If anyone can help I would be very grateful

Free Happy Bird
07-23-11, 06:22
Hello folks,

I trust everyone is doing well and is having fun.

I am leaving today and I thought I owe it you to write my report.

This is my 1st report in Cambodia.

I) Hotel Cambodiana

Absolutely GF. Very Green. No issues, No constraints and No questions asked. I walked in with 3 lovely girls and I walked straight to the elevators with the 3 girls. I can see the smiles on everyone's faces

For the record, I am a good tipper so previously, I have tipped almost everyone in the hotel from the door-boy to the receptionist. I did not have too but this is my style whenever I go to a new hotel the 1st time.

II) Research and Plan for the night.

After searching this forum and doing on-ground research; including asking drivers, locals, hotel personnel among others, I had a plan for the night starting with Sharky.

III) Sharky.

I started with Sharky. I was at Sharky at around 10:00pm

Crowded with Girls; all type of girls; from below average girls, to average girls to above average to really beautiful girls.

I took my time analyzing the crowd, searching for my type; the skinny ones with gorgeous faces, sexy figures, sexy feet, legs, tits and assets.

I spotted 2 stunning young girls playing the Billiards.

I approached them and after greetings and small chat, I asked them if they would like both to come to my hotel. I did not offer them any drinks. Just went for it directly

They said ok. How much? I said how much you want? They said $30 each. I said ok. I did not even bother to negotiate. I did not want to spoil the moment. I wanted them to be in the right mood.

On our way out, one of them, the youngest one; said let me get my mobile from my friend. I spotted her friend, she was stunning as well. I told her she can bring her friend as well. She laughed and replied. Can you handle 3 girls? I said why not, let's have fun.

Accompanied with 3 beautiful young girls, they are all native Cambodians, we headed together to the hotel, their ages are 21, 22, 26.

We took shower together and I noticed they have some hair on their pussies. I offered to shave them because I do not like hair and I showed them my body with no single hair; anywhere on my body. Except for the hair on top of my head.

After shaving and showering. We went for the 1st round.

2 of them were really GF with true GF experience from the French kissing to the full oral licking and sucking experience both ways but the 3rd is only oral one way, she likes to be sucked but not to suck.

So I made a scenario with the 3 in order to utilize their skills. While on my back. The 1st GF on top of me' jumping over me and I am inside her. The 2nd GF sucks me while mine inside her friend. And the 3rd, on top of my face, I am sucking her.

Sweet unloads and the 1st round is over, I offered the 2 GF girls to stay for the night and I double their pay. They both accepted. I paid the 3rd and let her go.

We spent. 3 of us, the night eating, drinking and going for several rounds whenever we felt like it. Just bodies over each other in many positions.

In the morning, we went for a shower and for the final round. After unloading, we had breakfast and they went on their way.

Overall, it was indeed a great experience and an enjoyable night.

I am heading today to the airport. Looking forward to my next trip back very soon.

Take Care and Have Fun.

Cheers,

Jimmy

Drwjw
07-23-11, 07:36
Thanks for your assistance Mr Istine. I will not darken the doors of the FCC.

ShaymanWhat is the problem with the FCC?

Riverstar
07-23-11, 09:26
I know a similar girl named Rachel, didn't work in a bar.

Big smile, dark, chubby, big tits and fun.

If you think its her then message me and I will send you a pic to confirm.I tried to send you a message but it would not let me, I would love to see the pic.

Cjmcsg (riverstar)

Riverstar
07-23-11, 09:28
I know a similar girl named Rachel, didn't work in a bar.

Big smile, dark, chubby, big tits and fun.

If you think its her then message me and I will send you a pic to confirm.Tried to message you but no luck, would love to see the pic.

Cjmcsg (riverstar)

Dajudge
07-23-11, 13:58
Hello, folks,

I trust everyone is doing well and is having fun.

I am leaving today and I thought I owe it you to write my report.

This is my 1st report in Cambodia.

I) Hotel Cambodiana

Absolutely GF. Very Green. No issues, No constraints and No questions asked. I walked in with 3 lovely girls and I walked straight to the elevators with the 3 girls. I can see the smiles on everyone's faces

For the record, I am a good tipper so previously, I have tipped almost everyone in the hotel from the door-boy to the receptionist. I did not have too but this is my style whenever I go to a new hotel the 1st time.

II) Research and Plan for the night.

After searching this forum and doing on-ground research; including asking drivers, locals, hotel personnel among others, I had a plan for the night starting with Sharky.

III) Sharky.

I started with Sharky. I was at Sharky at around 10:00pm

Crowded with Girls; all type of girls; from below average girls, to average girls to above average to really beautiful girls.

I took my time analyzing the crowd, searching for my type; the skinny ones with gorgeous faces, sexy figures, sexy feet, legs, tits and assets.

I spotted 2 stunning young girls playing the Billiards.

I approached them and after greetings and small chat, I asked them if they would like both to come to my hotel. I did not offer them any drinks. Just went for it directly

They said ok. How much? I said how much you want? They said $30 each. I said ok. I did not even bother to negotiate. I did not want to spoil the moment. I wanted them to be in the right mood.

On our way out, one of them, the youngest one; said let me get my mobile from my friend. I spotted her friend, she was stunning as well. I told her she can bring her friend as well. She laughed and replied. Can you handle 3 girls? I said why not, let's have fun.

Accompanied with 3 beautiful young girls, they are all native Cambodians, we headed together to the hotel, their ages are 21, 22, 26.

We took shower together and I noticed they have some hair on their pussies. I offered to shave them because I do not like hair and I showed them my body with no single hair; anywhere on my body. Except for the hair on top of my head.

After shaving and showering. We went for the 1st round.

2 of them were really GF with true GF experience from the French kissing to the full oral licking and sucking experience both ways but the 3rd is only oral one way, she likes to be sucked but not to suck.

So I made a scenario with the 3 in order to utilize their skills. While on my back. The 1st GF on top of me' jumping over me and I am inside her. The 2nd GF sucks me while mine inside her friend. And the 3rd, on top of my face, I am sucking her.

Sweet unloads and the 1st round is over, I offered the 2 GF girls to stay for the night and I double their pay. They both accepted. I paid the 3rd and let her go.

We spent. 3 of us, the night eating, drinking and going for several rounds whenever we felt like it. Just bodies over each other in many positions.

In the morning, we went for a shower and for the final round. After unloading, we had breakfast and they went on their way.

Overall, it was indeed a great experience and an enjoyable night.

I am heading today to the airport. Looking forward to my next trip back very soon.

Take Care and Have Fun.

Cheers,

JimmyIndeed a remarkable and quite detailed report. Thank you for sharing.

Dajudge
07-23-11, 13:59
Hello, folks,

I trust everyone is doing well and is having fun.

I am leaving today and I thought I owe it you to write my report.

This is my 1st report in Cambodia.

I) Hotel Cambodiana

Absolutely GF. Very Green. No issues, No constraints and No questions asked. I walked in with 3 lovely girls and I walked straight to the elevators with the 3 girls. I can see the smiles on everyone's faces

For the record, I am a good tipper so previously, I have tipped almost everyone in the hotel from the door-boy to the receptionist. I did not have too but this is my style whenever I go to a new hotel the 1st time.

II) Research and Plan for the night.

After searching this forum and doing on-ground research; including asking drivers, locals, hotel personnel among others, I had a plan for the night starting with Sharky.

III) Sharky.

I started with Sharky. I was at Sharky at around 10:00pm

Crowded with Girls; all type of girls; from below average girls, to average girls to above average to really beautiful girls.

I took my time analyzing the crowd, searching for my type; the skinny ones with gorgeous faces, sexy figures, sexy feet, legs, tits and assets.

I spotted 2 stunning young girls playing the Billiards.

I approached them and after greetings and small chat, I asked them if they would like both to come to my hotel. I did not offer them any drinks. Just went for it directly

They said ok. How much? I said how much you want? They said $30 each. I said ok. I did not even bother to negotiate. I did not want to spoil the moment. I wanted them to be in the right mood.

On our way out, one of them, the youngest one; said let me get my mobile from my friend. I spotted her friend, she was stunning as well. I told her she can bring her friend as well. She laughed and replied. Can you handle 3 girls? I said why not, let's have fun.

Accompanied with 3 beautiful young girls, they are all native Cambodians, we headed together to the hotel, their ages are 21, 22, 26.

We took shower together and I noticed they have some hair on their pussies. I offered to shave them because I do not like hair and I showed them my body with no single hair; anywhere on my body. Except for the hair on top of my head.

After shaving and showering. We went for the 1st round.

2 of them were really GF with true GF experience from the French kissing to the full oral licking and sucking experience both ways but the 3rd is only oral one way, she likes to be sucked but not to suck.

So I made a scenario with the 3 in order to utilize their skills. While on my back. The 1st GF on top of me' jumping over me and I am inside her. The 2nd GF sucks me while mine inside her friend. And the 3rd, on top of my face, I am sucking her.

Sweet unloads and the 1st round is over, I offered the 2 GF girls to stay for the night and I double their pay. They both accepted. I paid the 3rd and let her go.

We spent. 3 of us, the night eating, drinking and going for several rounds whenever we felt like it. Just bodies over each other in many positions.

In the morning, we went for a shower and for the final round. After unloading, we had breakfast and they went on their way.

Overall, it was indeed a great experience and an enjoyable night.

I am heading today to the airport. Looking forward to my next trip back very soon.

Take Care and Have Fun.

Cheers,

JimmyIndeed a remarkable and quite detailed report. Photos will be welcome. Thank you for sharing.

Primmage1
07-23-11, 23:44
Indeed a remarkable and quite detailed report. Photos will be welcome. Thank you for sharing.Well you paid about 2x the going rate but you could afford it and you had a great time so good show- I wish I could afford it-any names of girls?

Phil Istine
07-26-11, 07:29
The FCC is a nice venue but locals generally avoid it.

It is expensive for food and drink and people seem to dislike the owners.

It is a good place to take visitors for a drink in the evening though.

Phnom penh has loads of good restaurants.

Food at shanghai is good nowadays with a new manager running the place.

Metkim
07-28-11, 04:08
Hey guys, a buddy and I will be making a trip to PP and was wondering if the Landscape Hotel was girl friendly? I tried to find their website, but found nothing on google. Any infor would be much appreciated.

Yellow Bus
07-28-11, 05:31
Motorcycle.

I once read about this guy who liked to Motorcycle around countries and he said that Cambodia is the cheapest and really fun to do. Can one do this safely? How can one rent a motorcycle? Any ideas on how to do this?

MoreSauce
07-28-11, 09:14
Motorcycle.

I once read about this guy who liked to Motorcycle around countries and he said that Cambodia is the cheapest and really fun to do. Can one do this safely? How can one rent a motorcycle? Any ideas on how to do this?I'll be arriving in Phnom Penh in a couple of weeks and plan to do exactly that. I'll buy a small bike, just like the locals ride, and spend a few weeks (or more) tooling around Cambodia and maybe cross into neighboring countries. Keep watching, I'll be posting updates of interest here as well as the 'Other Areas' and 'Siem Reap' forums

ExpatCat
07-28-11, 18:19
Motorcycle.

I once read about this guy who liked to Motorcycle around countries and he said that Cambodia is the cheapest and really fun to do. Can one do this safely? How can one rent a motorcycle? Any ideas on how to do this?Five years ago I travelled from Phom Penh to Siem Reap with an outfit called Dancing Roads. It's organised by a Cambodian guy, Peng and his English girlfriend / wife Sonia. Apart from being a very nice guy, Peng knows Cambodia from a biking point of view very well. Check him out. If he can't help you directly, then he can point you in the right direction. The owner of California 2 is also a biker with extensive knowledge of Cambodia. I know it closed down by the waterfront, but I believe that it was resurrected at a new location. The bike trip I did was certainly cheap and the bikes were ideal for the local terrain. They were Honda XL or XR 250s. You really don't need anything bigger. I had a blast!

Good luck.

Expatcat

GreenBud
07-29-11, 01:12
Motorcycle.

I once read about this guy who liked to Motorcycle around countries and he said that Cambodia is the cheapest and really fun to do. Can one do this safely? How can one rent a motorcycle? Any ideas on how to do this?As Expatcat wrote, Jim from California 2 Guesthouse can give you good information.

Go to his site, and click on the links to get good info on traveling via motorcyles: http://www.cafecaliforniaphnompenh.com/

Member #4698
07-29-11, 01:42
Although not exactly what I would call cross country biking, I rented a small motorcycle when I was in Kampot and Kep in Feb. I had a real good time. It was the best way to get around and I saw a lot beautiful scenery. It was cheap too, but you already know that. Traffic was low and never a problem, but keep your eyes on the road anyway.

The best meal I had in Asia on my 2011 fuckfest was at the Kep crab market - last restaurant from the market seaside. The green peppercorn crab was outstanding! Better than anything in BKK or Michelin One Star gourmet restaurants in Macau like the Seven. I ordered it and the owner’s wife waded out to the traps off shore to fetch the crab. I’d say the green peppercorn sauce was better than pusy.

WeaverWorld
07-29-11, 04:30
Bit of a late report but I guess it took me a while to get over the disappointment of the entire trip. It seems that PP has really died a slow death as a mongering destination, none of the usual places were happening. Sharky's was dead, so was walkabout and most of the regular haunts, street 136 and onwards had pubs but there was a severe lack in quality.

I don't understand what has happened, I remember PP from couple of years back where the places were overflowing with not only beautiful Khmer girls but also Vietnamese (do remember one spinner from Vietnam I brought in from Sharky's). In addition the prices have gone through the roof aswell, I was able to get shorttime for 8-10 USD and longtime for 15-20, now they are asking for 50USD up for shorttime.

I wouldn't plan a trip back as I have done all tourist destinations twice already and the quality of night life was less than happening, also heard that heart of darkness is closing down.

One interesting item though, they started to request all girls to have I'd when you get back to the hotel and it seems they don't accept any kind of I'd, has to be a special I'd or there will be a wink-wink, nudge-nudge for 20USD bribe to get the lass upstairs.

I am off to Cebu soon, hoping to restore my faith in South East Asia there!

EisFlamme
07-29-11, 07:17
Went to NAGA Casino to gamble a bit since I wasn't in the mood for drinking. While I bored myself with the slot machines several employees joined me and gave me (un) helpful tips but still intertaining and a few lookers among them, unfortunately none of them approaches me any further. Then a Vietnamese girl places herself besides me and it is soon clear that she is actively looking for body contact. Her face is a 6, the body. Skinny and I can't make out a shape due to her choice of clothing. But she smiles a lot, making up for her lack of English skills. We move on to another slot machine and I let her. She calls herself Juju – press the button a few times, which ultimately lets to a 30 dollar win.

When the money comes I generously share the winnings with Juju which seems to surprise her. She suggests that we leave for my place but I refuse – partly because I am tired, partly she is not really my type. But she continues, talks of making boom-boom. I tell her, that I don't have money and she says: 'No money, only boom-boom. You sleep good. ' Well. A (technically) free shag is a free shag so I agree. We leave for my hotel (Khmer City Hotel) and stop for a quick dinner on our way.

Well. In the end I might as well have fucked a blown-up plastic sack. Equally unshapely, equally unresponsive and cheaper. Yes, cheaper, because after I did the deed Juju suddenly asks for 50 Dollar. I make an angry face, remembering her that she told me it would be free. She doesn't remember. I am not in the mood for haggling, so after several minutes of unfruitful discussion I give her 10 bucks and kick her out. She doesn't seem to understand why I am pissed and asks me not to be angry.

1 min after she left the receptionist rings me to ask if its ok for her to leave. I didn't know if the hotel is girl friendly when I booked so at least this information might be useful for some of you. Next time I am in Naga I'the rather try to get one of the employees.

Bubba999
07-30-11, 08:23
Hi All,

I'll be in PP in Sept and want a hotel with a pool that is definitely GF. All the boutique hotels have on their websites a very clear "No Sex Tourists" sign! Does that mean us? (!)

Anyhow, have stayed at Cambodiana before and the comments of most travellers about old style rooms don't worry me but several recent reviews indicate the pool is under renovation. Can anyone confirm that and what other suggestions can you give me? Prefer to be Riverside rather than out where Anise and Amber are and since the company is paying, can go to a moderate price.

Can any one comment on Raffles or the Sofitel?

Thanks as always.

Bubba

Riverstar
07-30-11, 09:51
I need a little help in tracking down two girls it is a bit of a long shot as I met them a number of years ago but you never know you luck.

The first was called Lida she wasn't young as she said she had a 16 year old daughter but she was tall, I met her in the Pit Stop Bar which was close to Shanghai Bar and I understand that she used to spend a lot of time in the Banana Bar. She was more confident that most of the girls who treated her with a lot of respect and apart from Khmer she also spoke English and a little French, someone did mention that they thought she was now in Kep but they were not sure.

The second is Thida she used to work in Flower Bar then moved to Bogie@Bacall Bar both of which are now closed. Thida was tall for a Cambodian girl and had fantastic shiny black hair (on her head) , she was great fun but took a lot of persuading when I wanted to bar fine her.

Thanks

Cowboy Brew
07-30-11, 14:44
Hi All,

I'll be in PP in Sept and want a hotel with a pool that is definitely GF. All the boutique hotels have on their websites a very clear "No Sex Tourists" sign! Does that mean us? (!)

Anyhow, have stayed at Cambodiana before and the comments of most travellers about old style rooms don't worry me but several recent reviews indicate the pool is under renovation. Can anyone confirm that and what other suggestions can you give me? Prefer to be Riverside rather than out where Anise and Amber are and since the company is paying, can go to a moderate price.

Can any one comment on Raffles or the Sofitel?

Thanks as always.

BubbaThose signs are there just for show only. Unless you happen to be staying in a hotel funded and operated by NGOs (if any) , you don; t need to worry about hotels being not girl-friendly. Well, I haven't been back to PP for 3 years and I could be wrong but those signs have always been there, and even some hotel receipt fine prints state that you cannot bring prostitutes back to hotel blah blah blah. This kind of thing is similar to the disclaimer and the OVER-18 LEGAL AGE warning you see at adult websites. They are there to absolve the business owners and operators from culpability and not to be taken seriously and enforced diligently.

Riffterman
07-30-11, 16:47
Bit of a late report but I guess it took me a while to get over the disappointment of the entire trip. It seems that PP has really died a slow death as a mongering destination, none of the usual places were happening. Sharky's was dead, so was walkabout and most of the regular haunts, street 136 and onwards had pubs but there was a severe lack in quality.

I don't understand what has happened, I remember PP from couple of years back where the places were overflowing with not only beautiful Khmer girls but also Vietnamese (do remember one spinner from Vietnam I brought in from Sharky's). In addition the prices have gone through the roof aswell, I was able to get shorttime for 8-10 USD and longtime for 15-20, now they are asking for 50USD up for shorttime.

I wouldn't plan a trip back as I have done all tourist destinations twice already and the quality of night life was less than happening, also heard that heart of darkness is closing down.

One interesting item though, they started to request all girls to have I'd when you get back to the hotel and it seems they don't accept any kind of I'd, has to be a special I'd or there will be a wink-wink, nudge-nudge for 20USD bribe to get the lass upstairs.

I am off to Cebu soon, hoping to restore my faith in South East Asia there!You sure you were in Phnom Penh.

I have never paid more than 20 for long time, then again I frequent more than once a year.

Bubba999
07-31-11, 00:44
Those signs are there just for show only. Unless you happen to be staying in a hotel funded and operated by NGOs (if any) , you don; t need to worry about hotels being not girl-friendly. Well, I haven't been back to PP for 3 years and I could be wrong but those signs have always been there, and even some hotel receipt fine prints state that you cannot bring prostitutes back to hotel blah blah blah. This kind of thing is similar to the disclaimer and the OVER-18 LEGAL AGE warning you see at adult websites. They are there to absolve the business owners and operators from culpability and not to be taken seriously and enforced diligently.Thanks CB. I know what you're saying and I have seen signs posted in hotels in SR and PP to this effect but the sorts of stuff I am talking about are a bit more pointed.

http://www.the-252.com/en/reservation.html

See Terms and Conditions at the right.

My previous experiences in Cambodia suggest that almost all places are GF but having been bitten before in Thailand I tend to double check.

Cheers

Cowboy Brew
07-31-11, 07:57
Thanks CB. I know what you're saying and I have seen signs posted in hotels in SR and PP to this effect but the sorts of stuff I am talking about are a bit more pointed.

http://www.the-252.com/en/reservation.html

See Terms and Conditions at the right.

My previous experiences in Cambodia suggest that almost all places are GF but having been bitten before in Thailand I tend to double check.

CheersNot really familiar with this hotel. Should be rather new. Unless the place is ran by some NGO, humanitarian fanatics, I think it should be ok. During my time there, Cambodian hotels generally turn a blind eye, as long as you stay polite and respectful and be discrete. And of course, the girl (s) should behave the same. As long as nobody make the scene, it should be alright.

Phil Istine
07-31-11, 12:39
Sigh.

Phnom penh has not changed so much for the worse. Places like Sharkeys and probably Martini are boring and tired for me though.

The bars still have shitloads of nice girls.

I may have an advantage because I live here and I speak some khmer but I meet pretty girls every night who will go home for twenty or twenty five dollars.

Except that I never talk about money, it is assumed that we both know the fee.

I live near five bars in st110 and each has a few pretty girls.

The other night I went to the new air force bar in st 104, there was an opening party and there were heaps of pretty girls from all the bars.

Rue pasteur has some nice girls, try my lien, the k bar and the sky lounge further north.

As for hotels, boutique hotels don't want mongers.

Thats the billabong, nine, villa langka, the pavilion and his other two hotels, kabiki and blue lime.

Cambodina is fine as are naga, raffles and my favourite for its proximity to the bars in 136, amari watergate.

No one wants to see the barang romping in the pool with his fuck doll or two.

There are still some lovely girls here, although the best ones seem to be snapped up and taken from the bars very quickly nowadays.

GentleBoner
08-02-11, 09:16
Bit of a late report but I guess it took me a while to get over the disappointment of the entire trip. It seems that PP has really died a slow death as a mongering destination, none of the usual places were happening. Sharky's was dead, so was Walkabout and most of the regular haunts, street 136 and onwards had pubs but there was a severe lack in quality.Sharky's and Walkabout are dead every night nowadays. I don't know what happened.

Leftfield1965
08-04-11, 06:12
Sharky's and Walkabout are dead every night nowadays. I don't know what happened.That's exactly the impression I got when I was last there about 4 weeks ago. Thought it might have been just be a bad week to be visiting PP, but I'm sad to hear that it hasn't gotten any better. Hopefully it's just the quiet season and things will pick up soon.

On the upside for me personally, met a nice Vietnamese girl at the Walkabout a couple of visits ago who I've been with a few times now. Jeaw (sp?) is her name, mid 20's, tight little body, no baby and excellent skills. She only works nights and is usually with her (also) Viet friend. Nice girl for short time fun.

Iching
08-04-11, 07:59
Went to NAGA Casino to gamble a bit since I wasn't in the mood for drinking. While I bored myself with the slot machines several employees joined me and gave me (un) helpful tips but still intertaining and a few lookers among them, unfortunately none of them approaches me any further. Then a Vietnamese girl places herself besides me and it is soon clear that she is actively looking for body contact. Her face is a 6, the body. Skinny and I can't make out a shape due to her choice of clothing. But she smiles a lot, making up for her lack of English skills. We move on to another slot machine and I let her. She calls herself Juju – press the button a few times, which ultimately lets to a 30 dollar win.

When the money comes I generously share the winnings with Juju which seems to surprise her. She suggests that we leave for my place but I refuse – partly because I am tired, partly she is not really my type. But she continues, talks of making boom-boom. I tell her, that I don't have money and she says: 'No money, only boom-boom. You sleep good. ' Well. A (technically) free shag is a free shag so I agree. We leave for my hotel (Khmer City Hotel) and stop for a quick dinner on our way.

Well. In the end I might as well have fucked a blown-up plastic sack. Equally unshapely, equally unresponsive and cheaper. Yes, cheaper, because after I did the deed Juju suddenly asks for 50 Dollar. I make an angry face, remembering her that she told me it would be free. She doesn't remember. I am not in the mood for haggling, so after several minutes of unfruitful discussion I give her 10 bucks and kick her out. She doesn't seem to understand why I am pissed and asks me not to be angry.

1 min after she left the receptionist rings me to ask if its ok for her to leave. I didn't know if the hotel is girl friendly when I booked so at least this information might be useful for some of you. Next time I am in Naga I'the rather try to get one of the employees.You gave her the impression that you have lots of money and free with it, she offered you free sex to get you to go with her, nice report.

EisFlamme
08-05-11, 07:18
You gave her the impression that you have lots of money and free with it, she offered you free sex to get you to go with her, nice report.Yeah, I guess you are right. At first I thought it would be a gratitude fuck. SHould have stayed and talked more to the real hot emplyee.

Dajudge
08-14-11, 14:52
Is there still a fishbowl in the Paris Hotel? Anybody have recent experience with the hotel?

GreenBud
08-14-11, 23:51
Is there still a fishbowl in the Paris Hotel? Anybody have recent experience with the hotel?Info from 2010; should still be the same.

There is a massage fishbowl on the 3rd floor. I believe the price of the massage is between $5-7 for 1 hour. Most of the girls can't speak any English. Has more of a local crowd. Girl should asked around $30. They should accept $20 or $25; not sure how much lower they will go.

The price of the room should still be $15. If you are a newbie tourist, they will try to charge you $18.

Rooms need to be refurbished. A/C is noisy. Some of the beds need to be replaced.

But the rooms are clean. There is free wi-fi. Decent restaurant on the ground floor (They also deliver). They have a very good laundry service (500 riel to 1500 riel per piece including ironing and clothes ready the same day if you give it to them before noon).

If you want peace and quiet after 6AM, ask for a room facing the back because the rooms in front face Kampuchea Krom which is a major street (Third world Asians constantly honk their horn starting at sunrise).

Dajudge
08-16-11, 05:58
Info from 2010; should still be the same.

There is a massage fishbowl on the 3rd floor. I believe the price of the massage is between $5-7 for 1 hour. Most of the girls can't speak any English. Has more of a local crowd. Girl should asked around $30. They should accept $20 or $25; not sure how much lower they will go.

The price of the room should still be $15. If you are a newbie tourist, they will try to charge you $18.

Rooms need to be refurbished. A / C is noisy. Some of the beds need to be replaced.

But the rooms are clean. There is free wi-fi. Decent restaurant on the ground floor (They also deliver). They have a very good laundry service (500 riel to 1500 riel per piece including ironing and clothes ready the same day if you give it to them before noon).

If you want peace and quiet after 6AM, ask for a room facing the back because the rooms in front face Kampuchea Krom which is a major street (Third world Asians constantly honk their horn starting at sunrise).Thanks very much!

Marlo
08-17-11, 01:19
Finally made it to Phnom Penh. In short, much better than Thailand. It reminds me of the Thailand of old, reasonable prices and beautiful ladies. I went top Zanzi bar and Rose. Bar fine is $5 and the ladies often tell you to pay them what you want. But I always take care of the ladies without upsetting the market prices and keeping them low. I stayed at Raffles, which is nice and clean and girl friendly. I had been there for 3 days before deciding to go out. Picked up one lady at the Rose my first night on the town. She was slim and cute but a dead fuck in bed. Couldn't give head if her life depended on it. So her BJ skills were in line with what I have read on this thread. But she was a good workout for me as I put in the work and enjoyed her beautiful body, then sent her on her way. She expected to stay the night but I didn't feel like being bothered.

Next night I went to Zanzi Bar. I was there the night before as Zanzi Bar and Rose are right across the street from one another. The night before the ladies were celebrating the birthday of Lucky, a short, voluptuous female with tits only a 20 something could have. So I knew plenty of the ladies there and bought drinks all night for at least 7 ladies. Time came to pay my tab and I was hit with a whopping bill of $36! LOL! Anyway, I decided to go with the B day girl of the night before as she was dancing on the bar in a very sexual way the others girls failed to display. My instincts told me she was the one so I neglected to bring home the girl who sat by my side all night, massaging me most of the night. Funny thing happened on my way out the door with lucky, two other girls offered to come along! But I declined as I am too old to take on three teenagers! Maybe next time. We get back to Raffles and my instincts were right on target. Lucky gave head like she needed to feed her family! (which was probably the case0. She is HOTT! With BEAUTIFUL tits and she gave me head until I had to tell her to stop! The sex was hot and she was just as seductive in bed as she was on the bar! We played multiple times, slept and I woke her up with more of my wood and not once did she shy away or act funky. She is great and I will see her again when I go back in Sept! She is not one to be missed!

Rewsna
08-17-11, 07:51
Just checking for a confirmation that the wild west of PP is over. Steng Menchi is dead. Nothing going on in K11 except a few cheesy brothels, can't find anything good on st51, tuol kork has absolutely nothing. The only thing in PP is some decent bars (Sharky's, HoD, Martini's, etc) and some brothels with eith er old or ugly gals. Sure, there are diamonds in the rough, but so not the place for young fine chicks.

Bubba999
08-18-11, 07:36
Does anyone know when the Hotel Cambodiana pool work will be finished?. Anyone walking by or staying there now that can get a straight answer? I have stayed before and the pool is the big attraction but am reading on normal review sites that it is closed for renovation (something the whole hotel needs). Any info from on the spot would be appreciated.

Thanks Guys

Liggi1
08-19-11, 12:05
Is the Cambodiana Hotel girlfriendly?

Bubba999
08-19-11, 23:58
Is the Cambodiana Hotel girlfriendly?Yes completely. Multiple girls OK But always wise to give a couple of bucks to the night guard and or receptionist. Hotel is a bit run down and shabby and I belive that pool is currently closed (see my request below!)

Phil Istine
08-20-11, 08:53
Went to the paris massage a few months ago, pretty ordinary.

Lots of girls, a few dollars for the massage and the girl wanted $30.

Terrible massage and everything else.

Just the luck of the draw.

The heaven massage would be just as bad I imagine.

Dajudge
08-20-11, 17:11
Went to the paris massage a few months ago, pretty ordinary.

Lots of girls, a few dollars for the massage and the girl wanted $30.

Terrible massage and everything else.

Just the luck of the draw.

The heaven massage would be just as bad I imagine.Is the Angkor International Hotel girl friendly? Is there a "massage" in the hotel and how is it?

Wendella
08-21-11, 06:45
Does anyone know when the Hotel Cambodiana pool work will be finished. Anyone walking by or staying there now that can get a straight answer? I have stayed before and the pool is the big attraction but am reading on normal review sites that it is closed for renovation (something the whole hotel needs). Any info from on the spot would be appreciated.

Thanks GuysI think the Cambodiana pool was tiny. (one look, and you think they must be taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)) If they're rebuilding one there, hopefully it's a size suitable for such a large hotel of its calibre. The location of the pool keeps it in solid shade in the afternoon, which if you prefer that, is good. I actually prefer to be able to be in sun when I'm at a pool.

The Phnom Penh health club (forget the exact name. Sports club?) which is on a main ring road at the very southwest of the city (a few blocks southwest the Russian Market) is the best option I found. It cost a dollar or 2 to swim there and wasn't too crowded, nice big pool plus sauna and jacuzzi, gym too, and relatively upmarket (compared to what you'd expect at what's basically a public pool in PP). Billabong's pool looks really nice but as far as I know they're pretty strict about overnight guests and also won't let non-guests pay just to use the pool. If that policy ever changed, that would probably be the best option. Then again, Billabong is in a horrible location, not near any restaurants and it's a fairly dangerous dark walk to the 51 street scene.

Butt Ugly
08-21-11, 14:48
Is the Angkor International Hotel girl friendly? Is there a "massage" in the hotel and how is it?The Angkor is just about everything friendly. If your lucky you might find a girl in the bar downstairs. I've watched people smoke weed, opium outside on the patio. The down side is the hotel is somewhat seedy, be careful with your cash, camera, and cell. Wakling distance to Walkabout, Sharky's and the motodops will be more than happy to find anything else you want. Happy hunting! Goggle it!

FritsVanegter
08-21-11, 16:26
Hello,

I will fly with them in December. When you will get ticket online you will be redirected to the site of vietnamese airlines. They fly with an old fashioned propeller type plane. There will be two other flights the same route with vietnamese airlines. I did on purpose choose the Cambodian one just for the experience. If you date Cambodian hookers you might as well use their planes.

Good luck,

Frits

Bubba999
08-22-11, 02:22
The Phnom Penh health club (forget the exact name. Sports club?) which is on a main ring road at the very southwest of the city (a few blocks southwest the Russian Market) is the best option I found. .Thanks Wendella. Appreciate the info. There certainly used to be a very nice big pool at Cambodiana 18 months back but the other options you have suggested sound good.

Cheers

Bubba999
08-22-11, 02:31
I've not been able to access their website. Has anyone flown with them? I need a cheap airline ticket from Siem Reap to Phnom Penh to Ho Chi Minh City. If anyone can advise thank you very much. Happy horndogging!With all the buggering around at the airport, the high likelihood that they will not leave on time I think you would be better taking a bus (Mekong Express $8) or share taxi (faster but chance of crazy drivers. I've had it both ways!) between SR and PP. I have also travelled by bus to HCM and it is also a easy, hassle free trip (though the border crossing does slow things down). Although a bit longer it was more than OK. However reviews of the airline are OK and if you have the money to spare, you should be fine.

http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/cambo_angkor.htm

Cheers

Jvdairlie
08-22-11, 04:09
Does anyone know if Sakura Hotel still have a fishbowl?

Ppfrequentv
08-22-11, 04:36
I've not been able to access their website. Has anyone flown with them? I need a cheap airline ticket from Siem Reap to Phnom Penh to Ho Chi Minh City. If anyone can advise thank you very much. Happy horndogging!Angkor airways is only a name and front for Vietnam airlines. So if you can't contact them try website and numbers of Vietnam airlines in Cambodia.

Tryntry
08-23-11, 01:13
Does anyone know if Sakura Hotel still have a fishbowl?Yes. But that was in March when I was there. A moto-taxi guy took me there, a couple of young cuties there.

The one I took was a dead fish and wanted $50 for FS, talked her down to $40. Had to see and touch those perky tits.

JHS 42
08-26-11, 09:55
It's been several months since I was in Phnom Penh, but I was just thinking that after doing a lot of reading on these forums I never reported on how I fared.

So I went to Cambodia for work (never been there before, and not much experience in Asia in general) , and it was clear, after a little hinting around, that my colleague was definitely NOT into the idea of a little for-pay female company. I figured I'd be able to slink off on my own some night, but that too, proved incorrect: we were working really long hours, a lot of it involving lots of time outside in the heat, and my co-worker proved to have unbelievable stamina, staying up super late every night. The one time I thought I'd turn in early and then head out later after he went to bed, I actually ran into him in the hotel lobby, and he suggested going to get a drink since I was up.

But, the one saving grace, was that his flight was six hours before mine. This gave me a brief window to work with. Unfortunately pretty early in the day on a weekday. I went from bar to bar, but some weren't even open, and those that were had only a handful of unappealing girls. I got so I dreaded popping in to look around, because as the only customer I'd instantly be the focus of all of them, no chance to lie low and scope things out.

Finally, though, I figured if I was going to do this I'd just have to put up with that. I was walking past the Dream Bar, apparently at the same time a girl was walking in, and she caught my eye as I passed. She motioned me in and I followed.

There were three girls there, all of them relatively young and attractive, who seated me on a bar stool and gathered around. I ordered all of them beers (plus one for me) and started making conversation. Two had very good English, the third, younger and shyer, considerably less. We chatted for a brief while about where we were from, etc, when the girl I'd seen outside, by far the most aggressive, suggested we move to a couch in the corner. One of the others left at that point, but we were soon joined by another girl, this one curvier and a little darker than the others, but also with good English.

This is where it got interesting. These girls were all over me. Kissing me, stroking my cock through my pants. I started to reciprocate, groping them as well. They alternated between completely blatant and completely freaked out about being seen. The younger, shyer girl, very cute and thin, put a pillow in her lap and I reached under her dress and fingered her pussy, with her groaning and grinding into my hand, while the first girl straddled me and started grinding, while on the other side, the new girl was kissing my neck as my hand slid into her pants and gripped her ass.

It basically continued like this through two more rounds of beers. There'd been no mention of money or going anywhere else, and frankly I was enjoying myself and in no hurry to move on. Plus I didn't really want to choose.

Finally I did, though—I went with the newer girl: She had amazing curves and was an incredible kisser. I think the other girls were disappointed I didn't go for two or three at a time, and in hindsight I kind of wish I had. We went to a nearby hotel (which was considerably more expensive than she said it was) as I'd already had to check out of mine, we each showered, and started to play. She was almost a little shy at times. No rush at all. Very slow and sensual, if anything it was me hurrying things along at some points. Lots of different positions, very agreeable, joking around. She gave amazing head. At one point I suggested anal, and she agreed, much to my shock, and I massaged her asshole with a little lube for a while, which she seemed to like, but when I put my finger in she changed her mind and there was no convincing her back. Oh well. Finally finished up and she finished me with her mouth and let me come on her face, a treat I hadn't even asked for.

When all was said and done, I gave her $50, the agreed upon $35 plus a tip, because she'd been so good. I'd have honestly given her a bit more, but I was kind of pissed about being mislead about the cost of the hotel. Anyway, a really good experience. Afterwards we stopped back at the bar and I hung out with the same girl and the young skinny girl from before, who seemed to be friends. I made it clear I was done, but she made out with me anyway, right up until I caught a tuk-tuk to the airport. Quite the finish to my trip.

Sapperken
08-27-11, 12:28
Arrived yesterday for my first visit in this country. Was amused by the VOA arrangments, anxiously tryi to track my passport as it passed through, I think. 7 pairs of hands almost out of site under a counter. Not many people at the desk but I think I might have panicked if there had been a bigger queue.

Fairly short trip to the hotel from the airport and checked in (Intercontinental) at around 8:30. Freshen up, meet with my colleague in the lobby at 10pm then caught a tuk tuk to Candy bar.

My colleague needed to make a call so I went into the bar to order the drinks. Well. Friday night around 10:15' I believe I was the only westerner in the place and there must have been 50 girls. When he finally came in later my colleague commented that it was like flies round shit (not sure I like what that says about me). I had a great time being groomed by 3-4 girls at a time. Made me think a lot about the attenborough documentaries on gorilla families. One of them had a really cute, broad smile and seemed to be a lot of fun, lots of giggling and some early DFK.

It didn't take me long to decide to barfine her ($7) and agree to LT at my hotel ($50). I didn't feel the need or inclination to see the inside of one the short time rooms she said were above the bar ($13 for 2hrs). I can only have been in the bar for an hour. I don't drink or play pool (I'm practically a monk LOL) so I usually think of time spent in bars when I have already made a choice as eating into the resources for the next adventure.

Found the tuk tuk driver who had waited and headed back to the hotel (paid $15 for the return journey and his wait). It's a pretty short walk from front door to elevators so, if you consider these things, it's a short walk of shame.

The first 10 minutes in the room were taken with her exploring and being blown away by the size of the room. I was upgraded to junior suite and the room has more tvs than I can watch at once and more bathrooms than I can use at once but she was seriously impressed.

What followed was typical stuff so I won't go into graphic details. Enthusiastic but average, she was a lot of fun. 2 pops before sleep and woken with another, I was satisfied with my choice. The only unusual element was her real shyness about her tits. They were tiny but with huuuuuge nipples. Plainly she was unhappy with them which was a shame but she eventually relaxed.

I enjoyed.

SK

Phil Istine
08-28-11, 06:43
Saw the usual balloons and the sign advertsing the third anniversary party-doesn't time fly.

I was too busy after the rugby and had to go home to sack the missus.

Sensational looking tall girl but liked to spend too much, oh and tits too small.

Going to check out the sapphire bar in st118 tonight, it just opened and I have a feeling there may be a girl to suit me there.

Phil Istine
08-29-11, 16:47
I don't normally do this but I am recommending the quite new heartbreak bar in st 110 next door to the riverhouse.

The food is great!

Some nice girls and the food is really good and reasonably priced.

It is run by a nice khmer family as well.

Wendella
08-30-11, 10:49
Going to check out the sapphire bar in st118 tonight, it just opened and I have a feeling there may be a girl to suit me there.So how was it? Did it have a girl to suit you? ;)

W

Betong
08-30-11, 15:08
. anxiously tryi to track my passport as it passed through, I think. 7 pairs of hands almost out of site under a counter. Not many people at the desk but I think I might have panicked if there had been a bigger queue.Well there are a number of things in Cambodia worth worrying about for the casual visitor / monger, but losing your passport at the visa counter at Pochentong isn't one of them. It's one of the single most efficient operations in the whole country, and given the income it generates, it ought to be.

Hollow Man
09-01-11, 07:18
Be back in PP in a month after a year almost 2 years away. Are these new crazy prices I'm hearing for real? Used to $15-20 LT so I'm wondering if the girls are expecting those prices from everyone. Used to be they popped 30-100 tag but if you just said 15-20 they went with a smile. Is it still like that?

Phil Istine
09-02-11, 09:41
A couple of cute girls at sapphire but no gems or diamonds in the rough.

Been going to heartbreak bar in 110 recently, girls only so so but great food.

As for prices, depends on a lot, time of night, your age and looks, luck etc.

We call it bar girl lotto.

Doubt you would find cheaper than $25 long time but who knows.

Inflation is rampant here, khmers are getting poorer.

Jvdairlie
09-02-11, 22:46
Anyone recommend a daytime place for FL.

Bartchamdo
09-02-11, 23:04
Anyone recommend a daytime place for FL.That's been asked and answered at least twice in the last few months. Spend a bit of time reading the forum and you'll see an answer. Or try searching for the phrases "24 hour" or "afternoon".

Marlo
09-04-11, 09:48
Thanks for the great report, Marlo. I'll be there in November. Would you mind sharing the name of the girl with the big tits in Zanzi Bar? Thank you very much!Her name is Lucky! I am headed back there this weekend and she is first on my list to find!

Jon Burrows
09-05-11, 08:47
Her name is Lucky! I am headed back there this weekend and she is first on my list to find!Really?

I know Lucky very well, if you've not already banged her don't bother dude. She's a big let down.

Riverstar
09-07-11, 09:24
I have to spend a few weeks working in the Kep area just wondering if there is any action there

Ppfrequentv
09-07-11, 10:31
I have to spend a few weeks working in the Kep area just wondering if there is any action thereNot a chance. Bring your own from PP. If you can't there's Kampot 25km away. Never saw action there myself but a motodriver asked me there once if I wanted some action. In the other direction (same distance) you have the Ha Tien Vegas casino which can arrange girls. The town of Ha tien itself is dead.

YouPornFan
09-11-11, 10:21
went to the candy bar yesterday. i hadn't dropped by for over a year. many many girls (around 50-60) and only few customers although this was a saturday night. i was particularly pissed by the fact the 3 girls i was successively interested by refused to go out. they claimed that they are just here to entertain clients but don't go out with customers. this happens a lot near the riverside in many bars where half of the girls are just "hostesses" basically and not prostitutes. this is the exact reason why i never go there. i guess street 104 is not like this too much, you can get laid easily there. however, for those who like it (not my thing) , candy bar counts many ladyboys. i guess there were around 10 of them yesterday night in there and these guys are very willing to have you bar fine them. according to one of the girls, they are the most successful with the customers, hahaha. i think candy is one of the only places with ladyboys in pp, apart from the heart and pontoon.

also, for those interested, i tried a girl at what phnom at night last week. somebody on this forum used to say it was a **** area. i can tell you this is definitely over since i haven't seen any **** girls there but only girls from 25 to 30yo. they stand there from 7pm to midgnight and i saw few ladyboys sometimes too. the area is actually calm, with only a bunch of 5 girls waiting in a street going from what phnom to the river. they ask for 10 usd for st but negotiated to 7 usd. they bring you to a shitty guesthouse where they charge you 10 000 riels for 1 hour. the girl was not too bad, around 25 yo but couldn't speak a word of english. just basic fuck as local do it (so no bj, just a hj and then a fuck) but was something to try once. will not go again though, i like bj too much.

Eatin Beaver
09-12-11, 22:23
went to the candy bar yesterday. i hadn't dropped by for over a year. many many girls (around 50-60) and only few customers although this was a saturday night. i was particularly pissed by the fact the 3 girls i was successively interested by refused to go out. they claimed that they are just here to entertain clients but don't go out with customers. this happens a lot near the riverside in many bars where half of the girls are just "hostesses" basically and not prostitutes. this is the exact reason why i never go there. i guess street 104 is not like this too much, you can get laid easily there. however, for those who like it (not my thing) , candy bar counts many ladyboys. i guess there were around 10 of them yesterday night in there and these guys are very willing to have you bar fine them. according to one of the girls, they are the most successful with the customers, hahaha. i think candy is one of the only places with ladyboys in pp, apart from the heart and pontoon.

also, for those interested, i tried a girl at what phnom at night last week. somebody on this forum used to say it was a **** area. i can tell you this is definitely over since i haven't seen any **** girls there but only girls from 25 to 30yo. they stand there from 7pm to midgnight and i saw few ladyboys sometimes too. the area is actually calm, with only a bunch of 5 girls waiting in a street going from what phnom to the river. they ask for 10 usd for st but negotiated to 7 usd. they bring you to a shitty guesthouse where they charge you 10 000 riels for 1 hour. the girl was not too bad, around 25 yo but couldn't speak a word of english. just basic fuck as local do it (so no bj, just a hj and then a fuck) but was something to try once. will not go again though, i like bj too much.it seems very quiet all over the boards here even popular places like thailand and philippines are quiet here, i guess guys don't have the money to travel much now days.

Bartchamdo
09-14-11, 08:24
Since I was nearby I decided to stop by a couple of bars on 136 to see what the scene was like. What a bad idea! The experience in both the places I stopped by was the same. I got no farther than opening the doors and taking 1 step inside and was overcome by real bad music played at a painfully loud volume. Having conversation with a woman was impossible. Even if I could put up with the bad music, I couldn't put up with damaging my ears to do it. I immediately lost all interest, turned around, and left.

It's hard to believe there are people who actually tolerate these places. What are the business owners thinking?

Is there a bar in that area anyone can recommend that doesn't play music so loudly that it's painful?

Faidenk
09-15-11, 09:06
Since I was nearby I decided to stop by a couple of bars on 136 to see what the scene was like. What a bad idea! The experience in both the places I stopped by was the same. I got no farther than opening the doors and taking 1 step inside and was overcome by real bad music played at a painfully loud volume. Having conversation with a woman was impossible. Even if I could put up with the bad music, I couldn't put up with damaging my ears to do it. I immediately lost all interest, turned around, and left.

It's hard to believe there are people who actually tolerate these places. What are the business owners thinking?

Is there a bar in that area anyone can recommend that doesn't play music so loudly that it's painful?That is my sentiments exactly. I remember telling one of the bar owner that patrons of bars are there for the girls, not the music, and to keep it in the background. I remember his reply was but this kind of music is the theme of the bar. I look around and could find not a single thing that points remotely to any theme.

I am not prejudiced against any kind of music, even Khmer, but it could be easier on the ear if they turn it to a reasonable volume, especially on those beat up speakers.

Eatin Beaver
09-16-11, 00:38
There was a place like that on fields ave 20 years ago I was'nt even old then, and the same thing the music was sooooo Loud! I would brave it and go in with ears covered and there were NO patrons just 20 deaf girls working there. But nothing beats RIO, Brazil at carnival time, I could hear all these people pounding on drums right outside my hotel window 24/7. The only strange thing I was 20 stories high

Lalake
09-17-11, 04:50
Hi all.

My first time going to PP in about a week and will be staying at the Sofitel. I don't expect the Sofitel to be GF friendly unless someone here can tell me differently. No worries because I'll be on business anyway. So I was wondering if there were any higher-end bars to just sit and look at some up market women? For example some of the hotel bars such as Raffles may have some nice places. I'm really not that stuck up. And I'm long time visitor to Thailand (23+ years now) but on this ocassion I will need to be a little more laid back.

I read several pages deep into this PP thread, and only hear a little about Candy Bar and a few other places and brothels. Any suggestions?

Cheers

Faidenk
09-17-11, 06:28
Hi all.

My first time going to PP in about a week and will be staying at the Sofitel. I don't expect the Sofitel to be GF friendly unless someone here can tell me differently. No worries because I'll be on business anyway. So I was wondering if there were any higher-end bars to just sit and look at some up market women? For example some of the hotel bars such as Raffles may have some nice places. I'm really not that stuck up. And I'm long time visitor to Thailand (23+ years now) but on this ocassion I will need to be a little more laid back.

I read several pages deep into this PP thread, and only hear a little about Candy Bar and a few other places and brothels. Any suggestions?

CheersCebu comes to mind. I can't remember where exactly it was as I was more than half pissed but it is somewhere off Mornivong, not too far away from Jockey / Queen Hotel. Quite nicely done up and there was 4 good looking Philippinas on hand. All spoke excellent English. The boss runs the Japanese restaurant (or was it Korean) next door.

Another one could be the Fashion Cafe on Kampuchea Krom, west side of Phsar Thmey, heard it's owned by an barang, all Khmer girls who speaks at least some English, which is worth a checkout. Both aspire to be one level up from the girlie bars off the riverside.

Appreciate a writeup if you visit.

Small Dick
09-18-11, 04:21
Lalake,

Nagaworld casino has a nightclub / bar which is very up market. I believe (but am not 100% sure if they are still doing this) they have a 'model night' on Tuesday's / Wednesday's. The waiting staff are also damn gorgeous, don't expect to drop less than $100 if you want to meet up with some of the ladies in there as they are very up scale. But you can just go in and admire the eye candy.

Pontoon tries to attract the upscale crowd but all the girls there love themselves to much and are real gold diggers, so to get anywhere say you're there for a few months that your company is paying for you to stay at the hotel all this time etc.

Lalake
09-18-11, 05:03
Cebu comes to mind. I can't remember where exactly it was as I was more than half pissed but it is somewhere off Mornivong, not too far away from Jockey / Queen Hotel. Quite nicely done up and there was 4 good looking Philippinas on hand. All spoke excellent English. The boss runs the Japanese restaurant (or was it Korean) next door.

Another one could be the Fashion Cafe on Kampuchea Krom, west side of Phsar Thmey, heard it's owned by an barang, all Khmer girls who speaks at least some English, which is worth a checkout. Both aspire to be one level up from the girlie bars off the riverside.

Appreciate a writeup if you visit.Excellent info. Will give a write up if / when I go, cheers

Ppfrequentv
09-18-11, 13:32
Excellent info. Will give a write up if / when I go, cheersOr try the Naga. Either in the Casino or the Darling Darling lounge. Also a more upmarket than the standard girlie bars.

Faidenk
09-19-11, 06:05
Or try the Naga. Either in the Casino or the Darling Darling lounge. Also a more upmarket than the standard girlie bars.Yes, Darlin' Darlin' is a nice lounge. Some 'resident' freelancers on most nights and they tend to sit around the bar nearer to the band stand, but in my opinion nothing much to shout about, but you never know with FLs, those who can't make it soon disappear from the scene due to the high cost of drinks there ($5 for a bottle of beer) , so there is always a refresh of talents.

The 'normal' girls there are more interesting place. Be aware that many of the bar girls go there after work so they may not be as 'normal' as they seem, LOL.

YouPornFan
09-20-11, 15:56
The 'normal' girls there are more interesting place. Be aware that many of the bar girls go there after work so they may not be as 'normal' as they seem, LOL.Yes, exactly right! I now a sweet girl who works at Walkabout and she goes to Darling Darling with her friends once in a while, especially on weekend days. I fucked this girl few times already for 15 USD at the Walkabout but she told me she managed to get 3 customers at Darling Darling and the guys paid 60 to 75 USD for her services. So yes, indeed, make sure these girls are really upscale because you could end up being cheated by some bar girls pretending to be high-class escort girls.

Purpletaoist
09-21-11, 04:37
Will be going to Phu Quoc over the holidays. Is there any action there, or just beaches? .

Thanks for any info.

Liggi1
09-21-11, 22:34
Know somebody the CASA Hotel in P. P. And / or the Night Club?

Leftfield1965
09-23-11, 07:37
Cebu comes to mind. I can't remember where exactly it was as I was more than half pissed but it is somewhere off Mornivong, not too far away from Jockey / Queen Hotel. Quite nicely done up and there was 4 good looking Philippinas on hand. All spoke excellent English. The boss runs the Japanese restaurant (or was it Korean) next door.

Another one could be the Fashion Cafe on Kampuchea Krom, west side of Phsar Thmey, heard it's owned by an barang, all Khmer girls who speaks at least some English, which is worth a checkout. Both aspire to be one level up from the girlie bars off the riverside.

Appreciate a writeup if you visit.Anyone have an idea what the going rate is for Flippers in PP?

Also, are there any other venues where one might run into them, fancy a change next time I'm in town.

Cheers.

Ppfrequentv
09-24-11, 08:50
Will be going to Phu Quoc over the holidays. Is there any action there, or just beaches? .

Thanks for any info.So you have a question about Phu Quoc in Vietnam and you post in the Phnom Penh section of Cambodia. Doesn't make sense to me.

But to answer your question: not much action. There is a disco near Long beach, where most hotels are, but it's mainly a vietnamese affair with the occasional foreigner showing up. It's mostly rich kids though and a few hookers but most don't speak English.

YouPornFan
09-25-11, 15:52
Hi All, I have been in Phnom Penh for a while now but I am always going to the same places and getting tired of it (Candy Bar, Rose Bar. 69, Crazy 88, Walkabout, Heart.). I know there are many small bars in the small streets next to the riverside (Street 110, 130, Street 5, between 136 and 144). The girls there look stunning and very friendly. Just walking by, the girls standing outside will call you in. I tried one of these bars a long time ago but the girls where not going out with customers (half of them being hostesses) or were demanding huge amounts (for the rest, at least 60 dollars for ST which is insane).

So I am wondering what to expect if I go back to these places. I know noone ever mention these places on this thread so I guess not much action to get from them. However, the girls there look way better than most of the ones at Walkabout, Candy or Rose. Among the places I am mentioning, here are some names: Red Bar, Domino Bar (both on Street 5) , City Bar, Ben's Bar, Happy man Bar (all on St 110) , Lin's Tavern (Street 130) , Night Life Bar, LS Bar (both on Sothearos, between what Ounalom and the National Museum).

The other problem of these places is that they are very small so you are usually under siege by the girls as soon as you push the door (which I don't really like). However, the girls are really beautiful so I'll be willing to get one of there and bring her home. Let me know what to expect (in terms of price, skills and attitude) for those who had previous experiences there. We never discuss about these places so I am curious to hear what you think about them.

Sammon
09-25-11, 16:31
Hi All, I have been in Phnom Penh for a while now but I am always going to the same places and getting tired of it (Candy Bar, Rose Bar. 69, Crazy 88, Walkabout, Heart.). I know there are many small bars in the small streets next to the riverside (Street 110, 130, Street 5, between 136 and 144). The girls there look stunning and very friendly. Just walking by, the girls standing outside will call you in. I tried one of these bars a long time ago but the girls where not going out with customers (half of them being hostesses) or were demanding huge amounts (for the rest, at least 60 dollars for ST which is insane).

So I am wondering what to expect if I go back to these places. I know noone ever mention these places on this thread so I guess not much action to get from them. However, the girls there look way better than most of the ones at Walkabout, Candy or Rose. Among the places I am mentioning, here are some names: Red Bar, Domino Bar (both on Street 5) , City Bar, Ben's Bar, Happy man Bar (all on St 110) , Lin's Tavern (Street 130) , Night Life Bar, LS Bar (both on Sothearos, between what Ounalom and the National Museum).

The other problem of these places is that they are very small so you are usually under siege by the girls as soon as you push the door (which I don't really like). However, the girls are really beautiful so I'll be willing to get one of there and bring her home. Let me know what to expect (in terms of price, skills and attitude) for those who had previous experiences there. We never discuss about these places so I am curious to hear what you think about them.There are two kinds of hostess bargirls in Cambodia. Ones who go out with customers for sex and the ones who just act as hostesses. There is certain number of girls in every bar who go with customers. Other girls will tell you who does go. However the asking price maybe high. Usually it is the other girls who push the girl to ask gor high price. Once I had to pay $40 LT. The girl was OK but had nice pointy boobs. Service was good for one shot but in the morning she refused. So I gave her only $30. She did not complain.

I heard all the good looking girls have local rich sugar daddy's or boyfriends. It seems these girls are hired to become hostesses ofcourse with sex for local businessmen parties. So they are least bothered to make money by going with punters. The bar tolerates this because pretty girls draw in the customers. I dated one girl who had a Russian boyfriend who supported her with a house and everything. He came only few times a year to Cambodia on business. She was living in a reasonable house with a servant. She told me she never goes out with men for sex. She said she was horny and went out with me. Ofcourse I take all these stories with a grain of salt.

Member #4698
09-25-11, 17:40
I am always going to the same places and getting tired of it (Candy Bar, Rose Bar. 69, Crazy 88, Walkabout, Heart.). I know there are many small bars in the small streets next to the riverside (Street 110, 130, Street 5, between 136 and 144). The girls there look stunning and very friendly. Just walking by, the girls standing outside will call you in. I tried one of these bars a long time ago but the girls where not going out with customers (half of them being hostesses) or were demanding huge amounts (for the rest, at least 60 dollars for ST which is insane).

Among the places I am mentioning, here are some names: Red Bar, Domino Bar (both on Street 5) , City Bar, Ben's Bar, Happy man Bar (all on St 110) , Lin's Tavern (Street 130) , Night Life Bar, LS Bar (both on Sothearos, between what Ounalom and the National Museum).

We never discuss about these places so I am curious to hear what you think about them.Your post was very interesting, YPF. I have never checked out the bars you mention above, but like you I am getting a little tired / let down with the usual places. The talent at Rose bar, for example has fallen off a lot since '09 IMO; more girls, lesser quality. So I will give some of these 110, 130, 5.136 and 144 street bars a try next time I am in town. I can't see what I have to lose.

As to price: I don't want to start a price civil war, but here is the thing; If the choice is between a 5* girl from Rose Bar or Walkabout, Heart, Zanzibar for $20 to $30 LT and an 8* stunner for $60 somewhere else, I will take the stunner all else being equal. But she has to be a stunner! Once upon a time you could find really good looking girls all over PP for $20 / night and they were very sweet. Good luck with that now. The best I found for $30 semi LT (multiple shots but not overnight) was a 6* girl from Rose Bar. She was a nice girl and treated me ok, but that was all. Nothing to write home about.

Manfield04
09-25-11, 18:41
Try the Fashion Lounge Café near the Central Market. You'll get girls 7+ and there are some really stunning. $60. $70 for LT. I was there recently and had some memorable experience.

Shadow6491
09-26-11, 02:35
Hi All, I have been in Phnom Penh for a while now but I am always going to the same places and getting tired of it (Candy Bar, Rose Bar. 69, Crazy 88, Walkabout, Heart.). I know there are many small bars in the small streets next to the riverside (Street 110, 130, Street 5, between 136 and 144). The girls there look stunning and very friendly. Just walking by, the girls standing outside will call you in. I tried one of these bars a long time ago but the girls where not going out with customers (half of them being hostesses) or were demanding huge amounts (for the rest, at least 60 dollars for ST which is insane).

So I am wondering what to expect if I go back to these places. I know noone ever mention these places on this thread so I guess not much action to get from them. However, the girls there look way better than most of the ones at Walkabout, Candy or Rose. Among the places I am mentioning, here are some names: Red Bar, Domino Bar (both on Street 5) , City Bar, Ben's Bar, Happy man Bar (all on St 110) , Lin's Tavern (Street 130) , Night Life Bar, LS Bar (both on Sothearos, between what Ounalom and the National Museum).

The other problem of these places is that they are very small so you are usually under siege by the girls as soon as you push the door (which I don't really like). However, the girls are really beautiful so I'll be willing to get one of there and bring her home. Let me know what to expect (in terms of price, skills and attitude) for those who had previous experiences there. We never discuss about these places so I am curious to hear what you think about them.The bars you mention are Hostess bars with absolutely no difference to the rest. I have had many fun nights in all of them. Happy man has gone through stages. The Mamasun there is a great lady Mrs Hapy However she does push lady drinks sometimes. The girls there however I would say howver have never been the most beautiful. The prices at Happy man well I have always paid $15 for a ST here. That includes when taking multiple girls for some more kinky stuff.

Bens, Domino, Red bar all the same just smaller less popular hostess bars however in all these bars and happy man there are fewer hostess and more girls looking to work.

YouPornFan
09-26-11, 02:51
Natty Bumpo, Sammon and Shadow6491, I thank you for your advice and your feedback. I will now definitely go and check these places out. I was worried I had no chance to get any girls out of there but I am now more confident I can find what I am looking for there. I will report next time I am shagging one of these girls.

Manfield04, could you give more details and precision on this Fashion Lounge Cafe. I never really heard of this place before and am potentially interested to hear more about your experience.

Manfield04
10-01-11, 17:02
Just below Asia Hotel, you have KFC. Stand in front of KFC along the Monivong Boulevard. Walk towards the kampuchea Krom road and turn right. Continue to walk towards the Central market. It is on the left side of the road.

During the day, it would be difficult to locate it. This part of the road is full of hair dressing saloon but at night, the time at went there was around 11. 00 pm everything is closed except the Fashion Lounge Cafe. It is visible from far. Very interesting place to visit.

Iching
10-05-11, 14:34
There are two kinds of hostess bargirls in Cambodia. Ones who go out with customers for sex and the ones who just act as hostesses. There is certain number of girls in every bar who go with customers. Other girls will tell you who does go. However the asking price maybe high. Usually it is the other girls who push the girl to ask gor high price. Once I had to pay $40 LT. The girl was OK but had nice pointy boobs. Service was good for one shot but in the morning she refused. So I gave her only $30. She did not complain.

I heard all the good looking girls have local rich sugar daddy's or boyfriends. It seems these girls are hired to become hostesses ofcourse with sex for local businessmen parties. So they are least bothered to make money by going with punters. The bar tolerates this because pretty girls draw in the customers. I dated one girl who had a Russian boyfriend who supported her with a house and everything. He came only few times a year to Cambodia on business. She was living in a reasonable house with a servant. She told me she never goes out with men for sex. She said she was horny and went out with me. Ofcourse I take all these stories with a grain of salt.The woman have ask up to $50 to with a customer.

GentleBoner
10-09-11, 01:32
Sharky's: Not much action here anymore. It seems to be trying to reinvent itself as a live music venue rather than a pickup joint.

Heart: Same scene. Number of girls seems to be down though. A few cute ones.

Pontoon: Mostly backpacker types. A few available girls.

Shanghai: The girls here have bad attitudes.

Candy bar: A couple cute girls. Friendly enough. Beware of the ladyboys.

Overall: Very quiet scene nowadays. Most of the places were only 1/3 full. Not too exciting.

Rewsna
10-09-11, 08:36
no more wild west in pp. k11 dead, except that road left with a few cheesy brothels. steng menchi nothing. st51. not really anything after the raids. yeah, there are some decent bars like sharky's, hod, martini's, etc, and some brothels with either old or ugly gals. but this is the place where you can get anything for the right price. [pic attached] i know it looks really bad. but this is the last of the wild west. you know of any others? watch out for the ****d girls, or you'll get pinched.

Qxeau
10-10-11, 10:32
Sharky's: Not much action here anymore. It seems to be trying to reinvent itself as a live music venue rather than a pickup joint.

Heart: Same scene. Number of girls seems to be down though. A few cute ones.

Pontoon: Mostly backpacker types. A few available girls.

Shanghai: The girls here have bad attitudes.

Candy bar: A couple cute girls. Friendly enough. Beware of the ladyboys.

Overall: Very quiet scene nowadays. Most of the places were only 1/3 full. Not too exciting.In PP now. Agree that Candy has a few cute girls still. Be VERY careful of the ladyboy factor. Still, the cute girls are also willing enough and they do remember repeat visitors, even if, like me, it's been a few months.

Hung at Black Cat for a couple of hours as well. Not really what you would call amazing action, but very fun to shoot pool with the girls, a couple of whom are very pretty and loads of fun. And interested. Shame that work got in the way this afternoon. See what tomorrow brings. Shall post regular reports this week.

Iching
10-10-11, 12:36
no more wild west in pp. k11 dead, except that road left with a few cheesy brothels. steng menchi nothing. st51. not really anything after the raids. yeah, there are some decent bars like sharky's, hod, martini's, etc, and some brothels with either old or ugly gals. but this is the place where you can get anything for the right price. [pic attached] i know it looks really bad. but this is the last of the wild west. you know of any others? watch out for the ****d girls, or you'll get pinched.the building in the photograph you took at one time you had to check her age but now its just a place for cambodians. i know where to go and not go.

Channy
10-12-11, 07:13
no more wild west in pp. k11 dead, except that road left with a few cheesy brothels. steng menchi nothing. st51. not really anything after the raids. yeah, there are some decent bars like sharky's, hod, martini's, etc, and some brothels with either old or ugly gals. but this is the place where you can get anything for the right price. [pic attached] i know it looks really bad. but this is the last of the wild west. you know of any others? watch out for the ****d girls, or you'll get pinched.the old famous #building# (his name) i haven t been in pp since 2008 and was thinking this place used to be totally destroyed anyway. you will be lucky if you will not be robbed there, this place was always notoriously famous in phnom penh for his dangerosity ever long term expat don t go there without guns or bodyguard you re no frills rewsna. and yes in this place you can get everything, absolutly all as long as you paid.

note that the girls of the building used to played their trade in hun sen park at night. check the archives and you will see that many mongers got problem with these girls. in fact with their pimps. begining 2000 huen sen park and his orange girls was delight.

have you try the esplanade opposite the train station? at the same level of la marmire restaurant. (the opposite side of the park, the darkest part). i can t believe toul kok get nothing anymore couple of month ago a friend used to find his luck after the curvewhere railtrack cross the road)

also you don t ventured in st 63 behind big a?

i am amazed you mentioned km11 again.

cheers

MikeSaw
10-12-11, 09:36
no more wild west in pp. k11 dead, except that road left with a few cheesy brothels. steng menchi nothing. st51. not really anything after the raids. yeah, there are some decent bars like sharky's, hod, martini's, etc, and some brothels with either old or ugly gals. but this is the place where you can get anything for the right price. [pic attached] i know it looks really bad. but this is the last of the wild west. you know of any others? watch out for the ****d girls, or you'll get pinched.looks like bo-deen (sp?) ; not far from the casino.

Qxeau
10-12-11, 11:18
Last couple of days have been interesting. I am a daytime seeker as I always have dinner and functions in the evening.

Dropped back into Walkabout yesterday morning. Met up with an old 'friend' in Mom. Nice to see her, she played out that it was nice to see me etc. Was very insistent for going for a ST, but I declined. Instead, took her to the Russian Market as I had to do some shopping anyway. We hung out all morning and she got a $2 top for her time, which made her happy. Bigger range of girls today at WA and, honestly, not a whole lot of good options. Are they getting worse?

Went back to Blackcat later on. Had lunch there and shot some pool. They order food from Flamingo, which actually made pretty good stuff. Met up again with Anita, who I met the day before. We shot some pool and then headed off to a nearby guesthouse. She's a really nice girl, speaks good English etc. Very enthusiastic girl, quite passionate and a little shy of her body due to having had a child. Also, she had 'stripes' across her back, indicating that she had been beaten. I have noticed this before when girls wear clothes that show their backs. Be wary and don't get caught up in anything. We had a great time together. Be nice to her, have fun playing pool, joke around and laugh a lot. This will make a good connection and benefits will be reaped.

Today I wanted to try some other daytime options. Of which there are basically none. Any remotely possible options were girl-deserted! Ended up back at Candy Bar and caught up with the girls there. Had a very fun few hours just hangin' before I had to go. Some other guys drifted in and out and the girls were making themselves very available. I still have a soft spot for Candy Bar so will probably keep going there.

Tomorrow I need a massage!

Shadow6491
10-13-11, 01:01
Those stripe are not from being beaten but from a type of massage or healing called coining. They take a coin and rub it against the skin repeatedly causing the bruising often with Tiger Balm as well. It is thought to bring the blood to the skin and create healing. So girls with these could be thought to be sick in some way.

Noobmonger
10-13-11, 13:04
I saw someone mention the PC Hotel on another site and just wondered if anyone over here had any opinion on it.

I normally stay at Flamingos, but am getting a bit fed up with it but like the area it's in. The vicinity to Walkabout makes it useful for when I feel the urge at 3am. PC Hotel seems to be pretty much next door to Walkabout and looks a lot smarter for a lot less money than Flamingos.

Just wondered if anyone had any info on it.

Noobmonger
10-13-11, 13:12
Sorry if this is a repeat, I posted this once but it didn't show up.

I saw someone mention PC Hotel as gf on another site and was wondering if anyone on this site had any extra info.

I usually stay at Flamingos, but am starting to get a little tired of the place. I like the area as the vicinity of Walkabout makes it easy to satisfy any urges I get in the early hours.

PC Hotel seems to be on the corner near walkabout and from the pictures looks a lot newer and nicer than the fairly tired rooms of flamingos. It's also cheaper which is a bonus.

Has anyone stayed here or heard anything good or bad about it?

Bumholes1
10-14-11, 13:07
Sorry if this is a repeat, I posted this once but it didn't show up.

I saw someone mention PC Hotel as gf on another site and was wondering if anyone on this site had any extra info.

I usually stay at Flamingos, but am starting to get a little tired of the place. I like the area as the vicinity of Walkabout makes it easy to satisfy any urges I get in the early hours.

PC Hotel seems to be on the corner near walkabout and from the pictures looks a lot newer and nicer than the fairly tired rooms of flamingos. It's also cheaper which is a bonus.

Has anyone stayed here or heard anything good or bad about it?Looks like you are out of luck Nooby.

Hotel Reviews of PC Hotel Phnom Penh Cambodia.

Agoda.

16 Sep 2011 – Hotel Reviews PC Hotel Phnom Penh Cambodia. Friendly owner and staff, no 'working girls' allowed.

Whufc69
10-14-11, 14:35
What are prices nowadays in places like Martinis and Sharkys?

Seems like prices have gone up alot?

When I was there a few years back it was 10 st / 20 lt most places.

Noobmonger
10-14-11, 19:26
Looks like you are out of luck Nooby.

Hotel Reviews of PC Hotel Phnom Penh Cambodia.

Agoda.

16 Sep 2011 – Hotel Reviews PC Hotel Phnom Penh Cambodia. Friendly owner and staff, no 'working girls' allowed.I did see that, but the review was from April. I know it's a new hotel and the review I saw on the other site was from September, so wondered if they started with noble ambitions before changing their mind.

Would still like to see a second opinion on this place. If it comes down to it I might just call them and ask.

Riffterman
10-15-11, 03:31
What are prices nowadays in places like Martinis and Sharkys?

Seems like prices have gone up alot?

When I was there a few years back it was 10 st / 20 lt most places.Not sure about short time, however long time 20-25 usually I have them stay 9 hours. I also don't pay bar fines, I just meet up with them at the end of the night if they are not from a freelance bar. If you plan on having them meet you at the end if night, usually have two to three lined up as one usually flakes and won't csll to neet up with you or they found a bigger fish. Stick to your price, plenty of ladies to go around.

GentleBoner
10-16-11, 07:07
What are prices nowadays in places like Martinis and Sharkys?

Seems like prices have gone up alot?

When I was there a few years back it was 10 st / 20 lt most places.Same. I usually do LT and give $20. Or $25 if they really get into it.

DrPecker
10-18-11, 11:08
Hey guys,

I was in PP back in 09 but never made it to HOD during that trip. Is it still a decent venue?

Also what is the best time to go? I remember back then people said it was more of an "after midnight" place, is that still the case nowadays?

Cheers,

DrP

Bubba999
10-19-11, 09:21
It's just a disco. Nothing special. Same as Pontoon. (cover charge Friday / Saturday). Both places you can pickup girls but they are the same girls you see on the street and in restaurants as waitresses etc.

BB.


Hey guys,

I was in PP back in 09 but never made it to HOD during that trip. Is it still a decent venue?

Also what is the best time to go? I remember back then people said it was more of an "after midnight" place, is that still the case nowadays?

Cheers,

DrP

Liggi1
10-19-11, 11:46
Have somebody here who can recommed 3 or 4 star girlfriendly Hotel in Phnom Penh?

Small Dick
10-20-11, 18:14
Took a girl in the daytime from WA to a short time guest house yesterday, in the room, I lit a cigarette up and told her to take a shower whilst I waited, she went in, I lay on the bed and smoked my ciggarette. Anyhow, after I went in to see why she was taking so long, she had a bong made out of a plastic bottle and some straws and she was smoking a small red pill bit like the heroin junkie pix you see, using some foil or something and a lighter sucking in the fumes that stank. The pill was small maybe the circumference of a cigarette and not that 'fat', I got pretty.

I asked her what the hell it was, she was pretty shocked, think she'd forgotten to lock the bathroom door, she just said it was yama and said she smoked it to get some 'power' then she just bolted out of the room leaving the bottle, pill and lighter behind, she hadn't undressed, nor had a bag or anything else.

I pretty much freaked and gathered everything together and shoved them in my bag then left the room, the guy at reception wanted to know if there was a problem, I just said the girls mum had called and there was a problem at her home and everything was ok.

As I was walking I dumped the stuff she'd left as carefully as possible.

Now, what the fuck was the tablet? I know about 'yaba' apparently imported from Thailand, and 'ice' which the nigerians sell over here, but what the fuck are these small little tablets, and more importantly how much shit can I get into with the police if they catch me in a room with a working girl who has this with her or she's smoking it? Will I be deemed responsible etc?

Also, is 'yama' as fucked up as the other shit as I hate the yaba / ice girls they are too messed up in the head and totally untrustworthy for even a second.

Thanks. I know this is slightly off topic, but I want to know as much as possible about this as I live here and just don't want to get associated with this shit, so I need to know what to stay clear of, many thanks.

Shadow6491
10-21-11, 13:28
The short answer is you can end up in a heap of trouble if you are caught in the room with a girl smoking that stuff or even have it on her. You will be handcuffed photographed pictured on the front page of newspaper and end up indefinitely in jail.

Amjeck
10-21-11, 17:41
Not sure about short time, however long time 20-25 usually I have them stay 9 hours. I also don't pay bar fines, I just meet up with them at the end of the night if they are not from a freelance bar. If you plan on having them meet you at the end if night, usually have two to three lined up as one usually flakes and won't csll to neet up with you or they found a bigger fish. Stick to your price, plenty of ladies to go around.Is there a good selection of 18-20yo girls now or is it just old hags?

GreenBud
10-21-11, 23:06
It's just a disco. Nothing special. Same as Pontoon. (cover charge Friday / Saturday). Both places you can pickup girlsJust a clarification: Heart of Darkness does not have a cover charge. Pontoon has a cover charge on Friday / Saturday.

Pontoon doesn't have a live band. I say fuck Pontoon until they get rid of the cover charge.

GreenBud
10-21-11, 23:25
how much shit can I get into with the police if they catch me in a room with a working girl who has this with her or she's smoking it? Will I be deemed responsible etc?I don't do hard drugs. But Cambodia is one of the countries where you can partake somewhat easily.

Hard drugs in Cambodia are illegal, and the laws are somewhat enforced. Although IMO, the greatest risk is ODing. Note that marijuana is also illegal, but the laws for possession are not enforced.

For simple hard drug possession, you are not going to be splashed on the front pages of the newspaper (only for the traffickers). But the drug enforcement police is going to want a bribe if you are caught.

IMO, the drug enforcement police are not going to care if you are responsible; they are just going to see the dollar sign.

My guess / hope is that a person in that situation will be found "not guilty" by the courts, but you don't want to get into that situation.

I would just give a bribe to the cops. Not sure how much that would be. But the bribe should be a lot cheaper than Thailand.

Iching
10-22-11, 07:55
Took a girl in the daytime from WA to a short time guest house yesterday, in the room, I lit a cigarette up and told her to take a shower whilst I waited, she went in, I lay on the bed and smoked my ciggarette. Anyhow, after I went in to see why she was taking so long, she had a bong made out of a plastic bottle and some straws and she was smoking a small red pill bit like the heroin junkie pix you see, using some foil or something and a lighter sucking in the fumes that stank. The pill was small maybe the circumference of a cigarette and not that 'fat', I got pretty.

I asked her what the hell it was, she was pretty shocked, think she'd forgotten to lock the bathroom door, she just said it was yama and said she smoked it to get some 'power' then she just bolted out of the room leaving the bottle, pill and lighter behind, she hadn't undressed, nor had a bag or anything else.

I pretty much freaked and gathered everything together and shoved them in my bag then left the room, the guy at reception wanted to know if there was a problem, I just said the girls mum had called and there was a problem at her home and everything was ok.

As I was walking I dumped the stuff she'd left as carefully as possible.

Now, what the fuck was the tablet? I know about 'yaba' apparently imported from Thailand, and 'ice' which the nigerians sell over here, but what the fuck are these small little tablets, and more importantly how much shit can I get into with the police if they catch me in a room with a working girl who has this with her or she's smoking it? Will I be deemed responsible etc?

Also, is 'yama' as fucked up as the other shit as I hate the yaba / ice girls they are too messed up in the head and totally untrustworthy for even a second.

Thanks. I know this is slightly off topic, but I want to know as much as possible about this as I live here and just don't want to get associated with this shit, so I need to know what to stay clear of, many thanks.With them bong things they usually get a wrigglys gum foil and inhale the smoke from the burning tablet from there. With me, In Cambodia, the girls can do what they like its Thailand where I worry, she was just relaxing herself before getting a good seeing to by you LOL.

Shadow6491
10-22-11, 13:36
Greenbud I don't make things up or post trying to scare people. I will give you the benefit of the doubt of calling me a liar.

Here is a picture of a well known Cambodian bar owner who was caught with a girl and some drugs in a ST room.

The story can be found in the Kohsantepheapdaily at the below link.
http://kohsantepheapdaily.com.kh/article/20110322-003728.html

A day later it was posted in the Phnom Penh Post. Although the article says he was a trafficker and had been charged with trafficking I can assure you that was not the case.

GreenBud
10-22-11, 19:16
Greenbud I don't make things up or post trying to scare people. I will give you the benefit of the doubt of calling me a liar.

Here is a picture of a well known Cambodian bar owner who was caught with a girl and some drugs in a ST room.

The story can be found in the Kohsantepheapdaily at the below link.

http://kohsantepheapdaily.com.kh/article/20110322-003728.html

A day later it was posted in the Phnom Penh Post. Although the article says he was a trafficker and had been charged with trafficking I can assure you that was not the case.I was just clarifying what you wrote. Traffickers (or those accused of being one) are put on the front page of newspapers. Newspapers should leave you alone for simple possession, unless you are famous. It seems your post confirms my previous comments.

I was just advising that for simple possesion of hard drugs, you can stay "under the radar" and pay a small bribe.

Previously I have posted stuff that wasn't 100% correct in the way the info was written. People have clarified my write-ups; I don't mind. I definitely did not lie, nor do I think the other posters thought I was a liar.

Shadow6491
10-23-11, 02:54
Just for further information. It was not long ago that the guest house the happy hippy was busted. It was no surprise even though he bragged on his website that he was well connected and he and his pot smoking guests would never have any problems.

Well he got busted, but what was worse was all those that were staying in his guest house were also busted. I could dig up the pictures of that one too if you are interested. Don't get me wrong I am not against people who smoke pot. But Cambodia is definitely not the place it once was. If you smoke pot in the open now you are taking a big risk. Even the little copper will take notice as he has been given a command by Hun Sen to crack down on drugs. So he will either bust you and it will cost you big time $$$$ if you are lucky but more likely they will take your picture bump the charges up and throw you in jail. This way they are seen to be doing something and they will still get their money but much more of it to many more people.

GreenBud
10-23-11, 04:14
Just for further information. It was not long ago that the guest house the happy hippy was busted. It was no surprise even though he bragged on his website that he was well connected and he and his pot smoking guests would never have any problems.The Happy Hippi in Snooky was busted for "drug production". I believe he was arrested due to the hard drugs; he also had hard drugs for sale there.

Links with pictures and comments of the bust are in the General Info thread.

That was a sad day for me.:( The Happy Hippi had the best consistent weed. It still was poor compared to California, but a lot better than the horrible crap that is on the streets.

The farming operation (where they put the plants under lights for part of the day to get the required veg / flower cycle) must still be around. Wondering where they're dumping the products. I would appreciate it if someone would post or PM me the info. I arrive in mid November.


Cambodia is definitely not the place it once was. If you smoke pot in the open now you are taking a big risk.Cambodia is definitely not like the old days where they sold tons of weed openly and legally in the Central Market.

But there is still open smoking in many of the tourist areas. From personal experiences and info from other forums, the marijuana possession laws are still laxed and not enforced.

That bar owner you mentioned previously was busted for meth, which is a hard dangerous drug. There is a crackdown, but that is for the hard drugs. But note that the hard drug scene is still going to be "happening". Cambodia still is going to be "easy". How can the cops crack down on the traffickers when they are some of the biggest dealers around (that is a fact).

Of course there can be exceptions. Never say never; things can change.

I wouldn't flaunt it. I would be discrete and enjoy.

Fast Eddie 48
10-25-11, 06:04
The Happy Hippi in Snooky was busted for "drug production". I believe he was arrested due to the hard drugs; he also had hard drugs for sale there.

Links with pictures and comments of the bust are in the General Info thread.

That was a sad day for me. The Happy Hippi had the best consistent weed. It still was poor compared to California, but a lot better than the horrible crap that is on the streets.

The farming operation (where they put the plants under lights for part of the day to get the required veg / flower cycle) must still be around. Wondering where they're dumping the products. I would appreciate it if someone would post or PM me the info. I arrive in mid November.

Cambodia is definitely not like the old days where they sold tons of weed openly and legally in the Central Market.

But there is still open smoking in many of the tourist areas. From personal experiences and info from other forums, the marijuana possession laws are still laxed and not enforced.

That bar owner you mentioned previously was busted for meth, which is a hard dangerous drug. There is a crackdown, but that is for the hard drugs. But note that the hard drug scene is still going to be "happening". Cambodia still is going to be "easy". How can the cops crack down on the traffickers when they are some of the biggest dealers around (that is a fact).

Of course there can be exceptions. Never say never; things can change.

I wouldn't flaunt it. I would be discrete and enjoy.To Green Bud.

Happy herb pizza are still around are they cutting back on the herb on the super happy pizza too.

Fast Eddie 48

GreenBud
10-26-11, 02:56
To Green Bud.

Happy herb pizza are still around are they cutting back on the herb on the super happy pizza too.Happy pizzas (including the infamous Happy Herb Pizza) are still around. Although now it seems that many places are now charging extra for the weed on the pizza. Before it was free. You can also ask for it "extra happy"; although then I thought the weed taste was too noticeable.

From a heavy duty stoner's perspective, the problem with the happy pizzas is that the weed they use is even worst than the stuff you get on the street.

Good / bad thing about Cambodia is that they have cheap priced women:), but cheap quality weed:(.

Iching
10-26-11, 10:33
Happy pizzas (including the infamous Happy Herb Pizza) are still around. Although now it seems that many places are now charging extra for the weed on the pizza. Before it was free. You can also ask for it "extra happy"; although then I thought the weed taste was too noticeable.

From a heavy duty stoner's perspective, the problem with the happy pizzas is that the weed they use is even worst than the stuff you get on the street.

Good / bad thing about Cambodia is that they have cheap priced women, but cheap quality weed.The weed was bad, at least theres loverly ladys with great bodys and small bodys.

Liggi1
10-26-11, 12:09
No news from the sex scene?

Lala Bay
10-26-11, 13:09
Going to PP for the first time in December. If anyone has any up-to-date advice, it would be highly appreciated.

Manfield04
10-26-11, 13:55
Dear friend,

Mongering in PP is already up to date, why don't you read it? Thanks.


Going to PP for the first time in December. If anyone has any up-to-date advice, it would be highly appreciated.

Gunxla
10-26-11, 19:51
The quality of the girls in the Phnom Penh bar scene are so so.

You may get lucky or not, there are some very sick girls out there.

General speaking I think the quality of the girls are better in Bangkok massage places.

Iching
10-27-11, 09:29
No news from the sex scene?LOL, I must admit I haven't been to PP for a couple of years, I think you'll find the scene there just the same as its been for a while now:bars open and shut all the time, ladys asking for more money, I remember the old days:; anyone else remember the old days, PM me.

Gunxla
10-27-11, 22:53
I would stay away from Zapata Bar (I get robbed there by the staff for 100 dollar)

Iching
10-28-11, 10:03
I would stay away from Zapata Bar (I get robbed there by the staff for 100 dollar)Zapata bar owner has a bar near the river front, I wouldn't go there either.

Kamui47
10-31-11, 14:27
The quality of the girls in the Phnom Penh bar scene are so so.

You may get lucky or not, there are some very sick girls out there.

General speaking I think the quality of the girls are better in Bangkok massage places.I am going to BKK and PP since 2004, therefore in my way of doing holiday and mongering I have a good comparison:

Generally speaking, a lot of things are better in LOS than in PP.

- Khmer food is rather bland. Even though the food choice got better in the recent years. Now PP has many foreign restaurants, but you have to pay for it. In PP I have never eaten Asian food as good and as cheap as in BKK. Even the soup you get in BKK at the street restaurants at entrance at Soi Cowboy is better than most food you get in PP and in PP you'll have pay much more for quality.

- You get better accommodation in BKK than in PP. In PP a simply furnished room (tv, aircon, shower, bathtub, window, tiled floor) costs almost as much as a room in in BKK boutique hotel (TV, DVD, fancy bathroom, free DSL internet, free breakfast, nice carpet, mini bar).

- Nightlife _outside_ P4P is much more fun in BKK. You can go to these huge music halls with life music, cinema in English language, open air restaurants (shabu shabu style, were you grill you food yourself) , e. G. With the right girl (s) you can have lot of fun.

- Bars in PP:

The negatives:

- Hostess bars.

I am not a brothel type and I don't like neither Martini's nor Viet Girls there and at other places.

In PP I liked to pick up freelancers at Sharky's, Heart, e. G. But during my last trip I didn't see any girl I liked at Sharkey's.

Now the PP scene is dominated by the hostess bars in which many girls don't go with customers. I learnt this the hard way at Zanizibar around 2008, when I met the girl of my dreams. She really was the one I was most interested in during this trip. We had a fun evening, I paid a lot of lady drinks for her and her friends and when I wanted to leave with her she said no. It was my most expensive evening in SE-Asia ever without se and most annoying.

The PP girls are becoming mercenary. During my first trips 2004-8, I had the problem that the girls didn't want to leave, now they are in a hurry.

- Now showing.

The moral crusade by the Khmer government has toned down everything. No Coyote dancing, no showing. You don't get to see a bellybutton anymore. You'll have to by the pig in poke. During my recent trips I got girls with sagging tits and / or birthmarks, e. G.

Compare this for example to Soi Cowboy in BKK: Several bars show full nuditiy. You can really choose the girl with a body you like. You know that the girl is going with you.

The positives:

- Khmer girls.

I really like Khmer girls, their smiles, and their often fuller breasts and better proportioned bodies, compared to Thai girls.

- The price.

P4P is much cheaper than in BKK. In BKK I pay usually 2000 THB plus Barfine = ca. 80 USD. In PP it is like 30 USD (LT plus Barfine).

I guess I will skip PP during my next trip. Even though P4P is more expensive in BKK, I just have more fun in BKK.

Betong
11-01-11, 04:48
- In PP a simply furnished room (tv, aircon, shower, bathtub, window, tiled floor) costs almost as much as a room in in BKK boutique hotel.Only if you go to the Western tourist-oriented places. A small but very clean and comfortable, well-furnished room in one of the many new 'guesthouses' all around Phnom Penh (for example, the Central Market area) is usually about $15 / night. That's B450, for which you'd be lucky to find a mattress in Bangkok.

Gunxla
11-01-11, 10:38
PP food (pizza and hamburgers) and accommodation are cheaper than in BKK, and I think the accommodation are of a good standard.

You have no taxi in PP (there is some taxi but hard to find) , only tuk tuk this is negative for PP.

Also about my earlier post I kind of liked the girls at Zapata bar but charging me very high barfine or lady drinks was not very nice.

I think the best place for me is where I can play my own music (ipod) and have the bar for myself with some ladyfriends.

Mongering1
11-01-11, 15:14
Zapata bar owner has a bar near the river front, I wouldn't go there either.Name and shame please.

BTW, Voo Doo next to Zapata is one of my favs. Recently changed owner and I have not had a negative experience in that place. Golden Vine is too popular it seems lately for my liking.

Just east about half a block, towards the river, there is a restaurant that occupies two storefronts. Can't tell you the name because it's all in Kmer, but the food and the eye candy is excellent. I go there for an oyster dish, seafood fried rice and a jug of beer. Cost just over 6 bucks and enough for two.

Liggi1
11-01-11, 16:10
How can recomme a 3 or 4 star girlfriendly Hotel in P P? Know somebody whats happen with the CASA Hotel in P P. I have been there 3 years agobut now they close?

Frankfurter
11-01-11, 19:10
Did somebody stayed here recently? I used to spend some time there maybe five years back, how does it compare now?

http://www.sakurahotel.com/

Thanks.

GreenBud
11-01-11, 23:18
Also about my earlier post I kind of liked the girls at Zapata bar but charging me very high barfine or lady drinks was not very nice.Another advantage for Cambodia over Thailand is that there are no true rip off bars; I don't think that ex-pats and established tourists will allow that.

But some bars / clubs might slightly over-charge. We should keep a list of bars and clubs that gouge.

How much did Zapata charge for the barfine and lady drinks? Lady drinks should not be more than $3. What's a normal barfine from the hostess bars; is it $7?

Gunxla
11-02-11, 17:02
Another advantage for Cambodia over Thailand is that there are no true rip off bars; I don't think that ex-pats and established tourists will allow that.

But some bars / clubs might slightly over-charge. We should keep a list of bars and clubs that gouge.

How much did Zapata charge for the barfine and lady drinks? Lady drinks should not be more than $3. What's a normal barfine from the hostess bars; is it $7?Zapata charged around 100 dollar for lady drinks (no barfine as I did not take girls with me).

I was there around 6 hour and there was around 7 girls in the bar.

I think I was over-charge by about 60 dollar.

Anyway I am from a rich country so I can live with it.

Rewsna
11-03-11, 08:18
Yeah, the last time I went to the "building" was back in August 2011, and the 3 times I've been there, I was pretty scared, but tried to look tough. The girls are 5-8 in looks, but you can't beat $10 LT. This in 2011! I was afraid I'd be expected to do the deed in the falling-apart-building, but we walked 2 blocks to a guest house, with the pimp following close by.

Yeah, K11 is an old shadow of its former self, but yes, they still have the 4 shacks on that road. Girls are 5-7 in looks, aged 17 to 22. And no BBBJ. It's become very strict. $20. I had to give a girl $5 more just to do doggy. And they know almost no English, so everything is done with motions and sign language.

I'm not aware of that place opposite the train station near la marmire restaurant. You mean "La marmite" near the what Phnom? And I went all over toul kok, and found nothing, unless there's a secret area I missed.

Found a couple brothels on st63, but none impressive with 2-3 girls, but I don't know this "behind big A" Maybe I missed it.

I bet the Cambodians know of all these places that still have the flavor of old, but even that, I'd bet is very little. The Wild West is gone.


The old famous #building# (his name) I haven t been in PP since 2008 and was thinking this place used to be totally destroyed anyway. You will be lucky if you will not be robbed there, this place was always notoriously famous in phnom penh for his dangerosity ever long term expat don t go there without guns or bodyguard you re no frills Rewsna. And yes in this place you can get everything, absolutly all as long as you paid.

Note that the girls of the building used to played their trade in hun sen park at night. Check the archives and you will see that many mongers got problem with these girls. In fact with their pimps. Begining 2000 huen sen park and his orange girls was delight.

Have you try the esplanade opposite the train station? At the same level of la marmire restaurant. (the opposite side of the park, the darkest part). I can t believe toul kok get nothing anymore couple of month ago a friend used to find his luck after the curvewhere railtrack cross the road)

Also you don t ventured in st 63 behind big A?

I am amazed you mentioned km11 again.

Cheers

Iching
11-04-11, 14:10
Yeah, the last time I went to the "building" was back in August 2011, and the 3 times I've been there, I was pretty scared, but tried to look tough. The girls are 5-8 in looks, but you can't beat $10 LT. This in 2011! I was afraid I'd be expected to do the deed in the falling-apart-building, but we walked 2 blocks to a guest house, with the pimp following close by.

Yeah, K11 is an old shadow of its former self, but yes, they still have the 4 shacks on that road. Girls are 5-7 in looks, aged 17 to 22. And no BBBJ. It's become very strict. $20. I had to give a girl $5 more just to do doggy. And they know almost no English, so everything is done with motions and sign language.

I'm not aware of that place opposite the train station near la marmire restaurant. You mean "La marmite" near the what Phnom? And I went all over toul kok, and found nothing, unless there's a secret area I missed.

Found a couple brothels on st63, but none impressive with 2-3 girls, but I don't know this "behind big A" Maybe I missed it.

I bet the Cambodians know of all these places that still have the flavor of old, but even that, I'd bet is very little. The Wild West is gone.K11 the good old days, anyone remember PM me.

Phil Istine
11-05-11, 05:30
rewsna actually went to k11 and did the business.

one has to ask why someone would be that stupid?

and then to claim that girls were as young as 17?

for foreigners 18 is the age of consent and don't forget that khmers usually add a year to their age-they one when born.

k11 is supposed to be watched by ngos, i can see why now if people actually still go and then claim some girls are ****?

Rewsna
11-05-11, 08:30
no disrespect.

i'm just letting people know the conditions and dangers that are out there. just sharing information to the forum. sex with **** is illegal and wrong. so it's better to know what's going on so everybody's better prepared. knowledge is better than ignorance.


rewsna actually went to k11 and did the business.

one has to ask why someone would be that stupid?

and then to claim that girls were as young as 17?

for foreigners 18 is the age of consent and don't forget that khmers usually add a year to their age-they one when born.

k11 is supposed to be watched by ngos, i can see why now if people actually still go and then claim some girls are ****?

Iching
11-05-11, 13:38
rewsna actually went to k11 and did the business.

one has to ask why someone would be that stupid?

and then to claim that girls were as young as 17?

for foreigners 18 is the age of consent and don't forget that khmers usually add a year to their age-they one when born.

k11 is supposed to be watched by ngos, i can see why now if people actually still go and then claim some girls are ****?you usually get "i went to k11 and some girls looked **** so a passed" i suppose some mongers are looking for a medal.

Shadow6491
11-17-11, 11:52
fyi greenbud. andrew howard and 2 cambodian women get three years each for 0.5g of amphetamines this amount really is personal use only you must agree on that.

an american national and two cambodian women were sentenced yesterday by the phnom penh municipal court to three years in prison each after being found guilty of both drug trafficking and drug usage.

andrew howard, a 46-year-old american tourist, sreng kunthea. 20, and chheng sok leakhena. 25, were also ordered to pay fines of 8 million riel (us $2, 000) each. 'based on the hearing and the drugs confirep001ed from the three suspects, the court has found them guilty, ' presiding judge at the court kor vandy said.

sreng kunthea was arrested on march 16, at a night club in the capital's daun penh district and found to be in possession of four packages of methamphetamine.

answers provided by sreng kunthea led to the arrest of andrew howard and his girlfriend, chheng sok leakhena, on the same day at the newcastle guesthouse, also in the daun penh district, where police seized two packages of methamphetamine and several items of paraphernalia.

'i have no comments. i will appeal to the court of appeals, ' howard said yesterday. sreng kunthea and chheng sok leakhena could not be reached for comment.

GreenBud
11-18-11, 08:01
FYI Greenbud. Andrew Howard and 2 Cambodian women get three years each for 0. 5g of amphetamines This amount really is personal use only you must agree on that.

An American national and two Cambodian women were sentenced yesterday by the Phnom Penh Municipal Court to three years in prison each after being found guilty of both drug trafficking and drug usage.

Answers provided by Sreng Kunthea led to the arrest of Andrew Howard and his girlfriend, Chheng Sok Leakhena, on the same day at the Newcastle Guesthouse, also in the Daun Penh district, where police seized two packages of methamphetamine and several items of paraphernalia.It seems the moral of the story is to not sell or give hard drugs to any local. You can't trust most of the locals in the sex / drug industry.


Status update on Heart of Darkness and Pontoon last Tuesday and Wednesday night at approx 2 AM: I still say "fuck Pontoon because they probably still have a cover charge without drink coupon on the weekends", but the scene at Pontoon was slightly better than Heart. More people / girls were present.

Most of the girls were local at both Heart and Pontoon. There were virtually no white girls around; maybe 2 or 3. It seems the scene is changing.

Purpletaoist
11-20-11, 17:14
The notorious $ 10 "massage" places on street 63 are gone, and I think this time it is really for good.

In one of the three places on the east side of the street there is even already a new shop (stationary?) , and the other two are also being renovated.

They have been closed for a month or two already, but since nobody else mentioned it, I thought I just bring it up.

Nail The World
11-21-11, 04:04
I had a question about the kinds of bars in PP. A lot of the bars seem to be FL bars, other options seem to be brothels, hostess bars. I was wondering if there were any Thailand type beer bars / go-gos? That would be my preference if there were any. FLs would be good for a change but the good thing about bar girls tend to be that they are accountable to the bar at the end of the day. I am arriving next Monday and if any fellas wanted to help out I am ready to accept the help. Not yet decided where I would be staying but it's on my expense.

Nail The World
11-22-11, 20:58
Another question. Are there any known safe and decent apartment choices for a couple of months? In such places it's usually best to work with a hotel for long term arrangement but I wanted to ask if someone was aware of any such apartments / brokers.

Bartchamdo
11-23-11, 04:54
A lot of the bars seem to be FL bars, other options seem to be brothels, hostess bars. I was wondering if there were any Thailand type beer bars / go-gos?Most of the bars here are beer bars or go go bars. This town doesn't have any pole dancing and the decor isn't likely to be as fancy as in Thailand, though. Most girls work for a bar. Though there are some girls who won't go home with customers generally I've found plenty do.

There are actually few FL bars in comparison. I'd guesstimate there are 50 bars to go for paid sex. Only a handful (Sharky, Martinis, Walkabout) are FL places. And yes, there are alsoa few places I'd call hostess bars (like Shanghai) , where the girls seem far more into lady drinks than going home with you.

Phil Istine
11-23-11, 10:19
Andy was a bar owner, knickers and liquors and before a partner in that notorious place where there were poles and some nights the girls were topless.

The place was busted and the owner, andys mate whose name I forget went to jail.

Apartments for a short term may be possible, but they are few and far between.

I have a mate who has a suite at the hotel next to amari on 136 opposite the bars.

Location location location.

Nail The World
11-24-11, 04:43
Thanks for your input folks.

AussieGuy100
11-25-11, 13:23
Zapata charged around 100 dollar for lady drinks (no barfine as I did not take girls with me).

I was there around 6 hour and there was around 7 girls in the bar.

I think I was over-charge by about 60 dollar.

Anyway I am from a rich country so I can live with it.I've been to the Zapata on 108 a lot. I like the chilled atmosphere and great girls, and I've never been ripped off there. The girls drinks are $3 (more for spirits etc) and the barfine is a modest $6. There are usually 10-12 girls there, most of whom will go out with you if you are pleasant to them in the bar. They prefer LT at $30-40 as they tend to provide more of a "girlfriend experience" rather than a quick ST shag.

If the guy above was there for SIX hours and was generous buying drinks, then his tab may well have hit $100!

AussieGuy100
11-25-11, 13:48
For anyone short of time in PP and after a ST with 6-8 rated girls for $20 including BBBJ, I'd recommend the Cyrcee Club (pronounced "sexy club" by the tuk tuk drivers) on Street 49 near Street 130.

The girls don't get paid any salary by the bar, so they are super keen to take you across the street to the ST guesthouse ($5)!

You have to buy them a drink first ($3) and pay the barfine ($8) , but they are very enthusiastic girls!

There are usually 10-15 girls there, almost all very cute looking.

AussieGuy100
11-25-11, 23:04
I've been to PP three times in the last two years and each time I heard vague rumours that there was a high-rise building across the river that had several floors of brothels. On my last trip I decided to investigate.

Turns out it's called the Washington Hotel. But no brothels! The first three floors are KTV establishments, then several floors of hotel accommodation (some of it ST?) followed by a "spa massage" at the very top.

I went to one of the KTV places (seemed barang friendly, unlike many of the KTV places around). In one of the rooms I had a very pleasant English-speaking girl explain the set up to me in between singing traditional Khmer love songs!

She said most of the girls there would go out with customers, but it was $50 for ST and $100 for LT! And she insisted these rates applied to both barangs and Khmers!

I looked in on the room full of waiting girls (perhaps 35 girls but all only 4-6 rating)

So not worth the trouble I think, unless the whole rather weird KTV experience is your thing.

Bubba999
11-26-11, 05:01
I've been to PP three times in the last two years and each time I heard vague rumours that there was a high-rise building across the river that had several floors of brothels. On my last trip I decided to investigate.Thanks for the detective work. Same price my ass! Though sometimes I think I would pay that to get away from another Khmer love song!

GentleBoner
12-01-11, 06:04
For anyone short of time in PP and after a ST with 6-8 rated girls for $20 including BBBJ, I'd recommend the Cyrcee Club (pronounced "sexy club" by the tuk tuk drivers) on Street 49 near Street 130.

The girls don't get paid any salary by the bar, so they are super keen to take you across the street to the ST guesthouse ($5)!

You have to buy them a drink first ($3) and pay the barfine ($8) , but they are very enthusiastic girls!

There are usually 10-15 girls there, almost all very cute looking.So including the barfine and drink it's $31 ST? No thanks.

Mongering1
12-01-11, 07:13
So including the barfine and drink it's $31 ST? No thanks.Plus $5 for the room, making it a total of $36.

Joe Looking
12-02-11, 15:22
I arrived late last night and pretty much phoned it in. This morning I moved into a GF guest house on 51 Street. After reading this forum and others I decided that my first stop would be Cyrcee Club. I picked this one be / see I got the impression that it is essentially a take away brothel. My hunch was right and when I walked in there were a ton of girls in a row opposite the bar. I was first engaged by 3 women and I guess I was overly attentive to one be / see w / in the first minute the other two were gone. The one who stayed, despite saying she was 25, was heavily made up and appeared older. She also told me she was half viet / half Cambodian and IMO she looked more viet (lighter skin). I am not keen on sending one girl away for another unless she is rude, arrogant, tacit or dog ugly. This one was also very straight forward so w / in 3 minutes she told me that she could do good yum yum and boom boom and asked if I wanted. I then asked about the bar fine. She told me that the fine was one $3 lady drink and $5 for the house. I knew this would bring the total to between $25. 5 and $30. 5 (I had one beer) , which is acceptable. When we got to the room I told her my friend said to pay $15 for ST and she got an odd look on her face. She then said ST is $20, which IMO is reasonable.

Some of you may balk at the price because at other places you can get an FL for $15-$20 ST, but you will probably spend between $3 and $10 on drinks for yourself and her so all you save is the bar fine. In addition, you know where she works and there is someone she has to answer to if she screws you over.

On to the details. She was maybe 5 foot 3, 90 pounds with a nice perky ass, small a cups and nipples that stuck out. I hate make up on women and think that in addition to staining the pillow in my room the make up detracted from her looks putting her at about a 6/10. Her performance was an 8/10. Although she was a bit aggressive with the hand part of the BJ, she did let me control her head and more than once let me push her head all the way down (I have not had a woman deep throat me in over 3 months and never in SE Asia). We only did missionary but she was very enthusiastic throughout. Sometimes I forget that for most women ST means one pop and not 1-3 hours so next time I will slow it down to try more positions.

For anyone looking for a sure thing Cyrcee seems like the place to be. The bar itself was clean and well lit enough that you can see what you are getting before buying. Also, prior to me saying that I wanted to take the girl, there was no pressure to buy her a drink and given the quantity of bored looking girls I think that I could have waved her off for another. The staff and I detected no judgement in their eyes. I was even able to chat with one of bartenders while the girl changed.

In a bit I will walk over to walkabout to eat and check the scene. I probably won't pick anything up again until later at Heart of Darkness.

Noobmonger
12-02-11, 20:43
I arrived late last night and pretty much phoned it in.Thanks for the report. I'm looking forward to giving Cyrcee a shot when I'm in PP next month. It's on my list of places to tick off along with Dream Bar and a few others.

Out of interest which guest house did you pick on Street 51?

Look forward to hearing more of your exploits.

Purple Bus
12-03-11, 10:30
Andy was a bar owner, knickers and liquors and before a partner in that notorious place where there were poles and some nights the girls were topless.

The place was busted and the owner, andys mate whose name I forget went to jail.

Apartments for a short term may be possible, but they are few and far between.

I have a mate who has a suite at the hotel next to amari on 136 opposite the bars.

Location location location.Years ago there was a guy who opened a Thai style Gogo, he was closed down. Girls will dance on the counter but fully clothed.

Nail The World
12-04-11, 14:23
Sudden mention of a certain club "Cyrcee" by a bunch of newbies sounds fishy.

Noobmonger
12-04-11, 21:07
Sudden mention of a certain club "Cyrcee" by a bunch of newbies sounds fishy.Is there are reason for it to be fishy? You might find adding to the discussion is more helpful than just posting cynicism.

Hatguy
12-05-11, 00:09
Check me out on the japan forums if necessary. I also plan to check out this one early next month when I visit. I guess it would be fishy if there were 2/3 new members posting about how good the girls were.

Anyway, I RTFF and have gone back through lists of places. Also spoke to a non ISG friend who spent time in PP. Am I correct in assuming the following are currently worth a visit?

Rose bar.

Cyrcee.

Martinis.

Sharkies.

Hod.

Sakura hotel (?)

And maybe just for a quick look: walkabout.

Any comments?

Wendella
12-05-11, 07:16
Sudden mention of a certain club "Cyrcee" by a bunch of newbies sounds fishy.Heh heh. I was actually more struck by the guys who posted that $36 was so much money they would never consider it. Oh my god, $36! Gee just think how long you would have to save up to amass that princely a sum.

Bartchamdo
12-05-11, 14:03
Am I correct in assuming the following are currently worth a visit?

Rose bar.

Cyrcee.

Martinis.

Sharkies.

Hod.

Sakura hotel (?)

And maybe just for a quick look: walkabout.

Any comments?Looks like a good list to get you started. I'd make a few small changes. I haven't heard anything positive about Rose bar in a while, so that's optional. I haven't heard much one way or another about Sakura. I'd say if you're going to HoD anyway you might as well add Pontoon to your list, since it's just a 100 meters away. Some people get put off by the cover charge on Fri / Sat, though.

I might just add 2 areas where you can find lots of bars. Some of them play music way too loudly for my taste, but you might like them.

1. The 2 blocks of 136 closest to the river (and since you're there why not walk 1 block over to st 130 and see the similar bars there?) , and

2. The block of 104 closest to the river (has Rose bar also, BTW)

Noobmonger
12-05-11, 23:17
Heh heh. I was actually more struck by the guys who posted that $36 was so much money they would never consider it. Oh my god, $36! Gee just think how long you would have to save up to amass that princely a sum.I was just disappointed it wasn't joined by the usual chorus of how it pushes prices up even though the same people still never pay more than $15 for ST and $20 for LT.

Titanio
12-05-11, 23:24
Heh heh. I was actually more struck by the guys who posted that $36 was so much money they would never consider it. Oh my god, $36! Gee just think how long you would have to save up to amass that princely a sum.It is not about the absolute 36 bucks. It is about the knowledge of being ripped for maybe 16 dollars.

Titanio
12-05-11, 23:26
Check me out on the japan forums if necessary. I also plan to check out this one early next month when I visit. I guess it would be fishy if there were 2/3 new members posting about how good the girls were.

Anyway, I RTFF and have gone back through lists of places. Also spoke to a non ISG friend who spent time in PP. Am I correct in assuming the following are currently worth a visit?

Rose bar.

Cyrcee.

Martinis.

Sharkies.

Hod.

Sakura hotel (?)

And maybe just for a quick look: walkabout.

Any comments?Skip Rose bar, but go to Zanzibar and Bar 104 in same street. When lucky, and nobody plays pool, in 104 you can get a BJ upstairs for a very small tip.

Hatguy
12-06-11, 04:53
Skip Rose bar, but go to Zanzibar and Bar 104 in same street. When lucky, and nobody plays pool, in 104 you can get a BJ upstairs for a very small tip.Thanks for the pointer.

GreenBud
12-06-11, 06:32
For anyone short of time in PP and after a ST with 6-8 rated girls for $20 including BBBJ, I'd recommend the Cyrcee Club (pronounced "sexy club" by the tuk tuk drivers) on Street 49 near Street 130.

The girls don't get paid any salary by the bar, so they are super keen to take you across the street to the ST guesthouse ($5)!

You have to buy them a drink first ($3) and pay the barfine ($8) , but they are very enthusiastic girls!

There are usually 10-15 girls there, almost all very cute looking."6-8" "almost all very cute looking"

Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

IMO, a few are decent (maybe a 6) , most are on the ugly side (5 and under). But note that they are very enthusiastic; also you can get your lesbian experience there.

A minor clarification:

The cost is $3 for lady drink, plus $5 barfine, for a "total" barfine of $8 ST.

Hence the cost will be: $20 for the girl plus $8. You can pay $5 for the ST place across the street, but it's a dump. So the standard price will be $33.

Better to pay $7 for the other ST guesthouse which is a lot cleaner. Or even better, take them to your hotel.

Yes people probably can pay $15 for some of the girls (probably the fat and ugly ones) ; I believe all the girls agreed to accept $20 as a group, but you can negotiate.

Prices has gone up. The girls do have a point. Everything has gone up. The price of petro went from $0.25 to $1.25 per litter.



The notorious $ 10 "massage" places on street 63 are gone,Above is confirmed.

Noobmonger
12-06-11, 11:09
Skip Rose bar, but go to Zanzibar and Bar 104 in same street. When lucky, and nobody plays pool, in 104 you can get a BJ upstairs for a very small tip.That's going straight in the notes I've been making for my forth coming trip.

Noobmonger
12-06-11, 11:32
It is not about the absolute 36 bucks. It is about the knowledge of being ripped for maybe 16 dollars.Actually it's more like 8 dollars. The bar fine is 5 bucks and the lady drink 3 bucks. 8 dollars wouldn't even buy me two beers in a pub in London. To me it's pocket change, if I enjoyed the service then I wouldn't really care that it cost a little more.

Wendella
12-06-11, 18:53
OK but it's a free market. They charge what customers are willing to pay. It's hard to argue they're "ripping us off" when it's still one of the cheapest options on the planet and a small fraction of what it costs in most other parts of the world.

Hatguy
12-07-11, 00:11
Ok then that saves me going there. Great advice thanks very much.

I'll be flying in from BKK myself. So far the airfares seem to be about USD$100 each way. I did contemplate getting a bus or something on the way back to BKK but due to time constraints I will just get a return fare with Air Asia. Just three days in PP for me this time. Hopefully the first of many trips.

One of my friends was saying LT is good so Ill hopefully get one of those but play it by ear. Not long now. Hatguy

Fast Eddie 48
12-07-11, 06:19
Ok then that saves me going there. Great advice thanks very much.

I'll be flying in from BKK myself. So far the airfares seem to be about USD$100 each way. I did contemplate getting a bus or something on the way back to BKK but due to time constraints I will just get a return fare with Air Asia. Just three days in PP for me this time. Hopefully the first of many trips.

One of my friends was saying LT is good so Ill hopefully get one of those but play it by ear. Not long now. HatguyTo Hat,

That is a long ass bus ride and the road is not that good, I think you are better off just stay in Bangkok figure in cost on visa and air ticket you in for 225 USD just go all the way to PP just for mongering.

Fast Eddie 48

Raverboy
12-07-11, 08:03
All this talk on the board about P4P in PP having gone downhill, crackdowns, etc. etc. is frankly quite depressing. Was craving Khmer lovin' and contemplating a weekend trip from HCMC. Having second thoughts now. Any comments?

Me: late-30s Asian expat living in HCMC, VN. Last trip to PP was in 2008.

Hatguy
12-07-11, 10:31
To Hat,

That is a long ass bus ride and the road is not that good, I think you are better off just stay in Bangkok figure in cost on visa and air ticket you in for 225 USD just go all the way to PP just for mongering.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks for the input. Still going to go though. My friends reports and the ones on here plus my own sense of adventure make ne want to. Also non monger aspects play a part for me. Some business stuff that may be able to claim back from my employer. Ie could be a free trip.

D Cups
12-07-11, 16:51
I know this is PP thread but massage girls in Siem Reap will come to your hotel for $5 hour massage, great massage, and then accept whatever tip you give them for happy endings. It was a very happy ending! You cannot get the extra service atthe massage parlor, tho. You have to bring them back to the hotel which is better anyway because you can photograph then!


"6-8" "almost all very cute looking"

Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

IMO, a few are decent (maybe a 6) , most are on the ugly side (5 and under). But note that they are very enthusiastic; also you can get your lesbian experience there.

A minor clarification:

The cost is $3 for lady drink, plus $5 barfine, for a "total" barfine of $8 ST.

Hence the cost will be: $20 for the girl plus $8. You can pay $5 for the ST place across the street, but it's a dump. So the standard price will be $33.

Better to pay $7 for the other ST guesthouse which is a lot cleaner. Or even better, take them to your hotel.

Yes people probably can pay $15 for some of the girls (probably the fat and ugly ones) ; I believe all the girls agreed to accept $20 as a group, but you can negotiate.

Prices has gone up. The girls do have a point. Everything has gone up. The price of petro went from $0. 25 to $1. 25 per litter.

Above is confirmed.

Noobmonger
12-07-11, 20:48
All this talk on the board about P4P in PP having gone downhill, crackdowns, etc. Etc. Is frankly quite depressing. Was craving Khmer lovin' and contemplating a weekend trip from HCMC. Having second thoughts now. Any comments?

Me: late-30s Asian expat living in HCMC, VN. Last trip to PP was in 2008.I guess it depends what you're after.

I've yet to have a disappointing trip, but then I'm don't mine spending 20 to 25 USD on a ST and aren't interested in a 5 to 10 dollar shag from Street 63 where you have to keep one eye on your wallet whilst you're doing the deed.

Each to their own and all that but I'm certainly looking forward to my visit in a few weeks time.

Noobmonger
12-07-11, 20:54
I know this is PP thread but massage girls in Siem Reap will come to your hotel for $5 hour massage, great massage, and then accept whatever tip you give them for happy endings. It was a very happy ending! You cannot get the extra service atthe massage parlor, tho. You have to bring them back to the hotel which is better anyway because you can photograph then!Is this available from any MP? I wish I'd thought of this before. I have had HE in the MP I go to regularly when in town ("Doctor Foot" or something) but I know I'd much prefer it in my own room. There was a lovely girl (Borai I think her name was) I saw a number of times when I was last there and was lucky enough a few times to visit when business was quiet so we were alone in the room, wouldn't mind getting her back to my hotel.

As for those pictures. Can we expect to see them here?

El Greco
12-07-11, 21:00
All this talk on the board about P4P in PP having gone downhill, crackdowns, etc. Etc. Is frankly quite depressing. Was craving Khmer lovin' and contemplating a weekend trip from HCMC. Having second thoughts now. Any comments?

Me: late-30s Asian expat living in HCMC, VN. Last trip to PP was in 2008.Still plenty of fun. I was there last February staying on the river front. I saw SW during early evening on the river promenade and many bars full of WG on the side streets. Can't recall names but no way to miss them.

On the other hand why don't you take a weekend to Jakarta on Airasia. Lots of fun there too and I find Indos a lot better than Khmer ladies.

Hope it helps.

Fast Eddie 48
12-08-11, 01:00
Thanks for the input. Still going to go though. My friends reports and the ones on here plus my own sense of adventure make ne want to. Also non monger aspects play a part for me. Some business stuff that may be able to claim back from my employer. Ie could be a free trip.To Hat,

If your company are paying then go but why do you want to take the bus back to Bangkok to save some riel just fly round trip and go to Siem riep too, just my IMHO not much going on in Cambodia other than cheap p4p and seeing the famous Ankor what there are much more thing to do in Bangkok.

Fast Eddie 48

Raverboy
12-08-11, 03:20
Still plenty of fun. I was there last February staying on the river front. I saw SW during early evening on the river promenade and many bars full of WG on the side streets. Can't recall names but no way to miss them.

On the other hand why don't you take a weekend to Jakarta on Airasia. Lots of fun there too and I find Indos a lot better than Khmer ladies.

Hope it helps.Yes. I too enjoy my Nasi Goreng. Just haven't had Amok lately and have an inexplicable craving.

Hatguy
12-08-11, 15:55
To Hat,

If your company are paying then go but why do you want to take the bus back to Bangkok to save some riel just fly round trip and go to Siem riep too, just my IMHO not much going on in Cambodia other than cheap p4p and seeing the famous Ankor what there are much more thing to do in Bangkok.

Fast Eddie 48Read it again mate. I don't have time for the bus. Will be flying both way. Hatguy

Ppfrequentv
12-09-11, 03:37
The other day I was in PP and happened to be in the street where Fashion cafe should be (couldn't find it). What I noticed was that there are some Vietnamese barber shops (hot toc) on that street and was wondering whether you can get the same services (BJ) as in Vietnam. Does anybody know? Didn't have time to try out myself but will give it a try the next time I'm in PP. Any info beforehand would be appreciated.

Asian Travels
12-09-11, 07:00
Discovered a real cutie on 63 in a tiny bar with 3 girls working. Played a little pool and took her back. No English though, and quite shy.

After one round she wanted to go, which was disappointing, but then again there was no communication so not a huge loss.

Found a hard body at Sharkies on a slow Monday night. Must have been 20 girls and only 10 guys. Half weren't bad. Shot some pool and chatted a bit (she bought her own drink).

Took her to my hotel (no BF). Very sexy, kissing everywhere, deepthroat, cowgirl. A pro in every way.

Had one go and gave her twenty. She went out for dinner and came back at 1am. Had another round, and she demanded more money.

Ended up giving her $15 more just to get rid of her.

Better experience was a gal I found in Bamboo. Not aggressive, friendly, and "up to you" really meant that. Gave her $20 for the night and she seemed happy.

Noobmonger
12-09-11, 14:22
The other day I was in PP and happened to be in the street where Fashion cafe should be (couldn't find it). What I noticed was that there are some Vietnamese barber shops (hot toc) on that street and was wondering whether you can get the same services (BJ) as in Vietnam. Does anybody know? Didn't have time to try out myself but will give it a try the next time I'm in PP. Any info beforehand would be appreciated.I'd be interested to know that too, I guessing however we'd have probably heard about it before.

Regarding the fashion cafe, I'm interested in checking it out. From what I heard it's hard to find for the first time during the day because it's hidden by all the local stalls on the pavement. But at night they're all cleared away and the neon lights come on. It certainly sounds like an interesting one, from what I heard the ladies cost somewhat more than the average place but are supposed to be of a greater quality. Thought I'd pop in and see for myself.

Sammon
12-09-11, 18:36
Discovered a real cutie on 63 in a tiny bar with 3 girls working. Played a little pool and took her back. No English though, and quite shy.

After one round she wanted to go, which was disappointing, but then again there was no communication so not a huge loss.

Found a hard body at Sharkies on a slow Monday night. Must have been 20 girls and only 10 guys. Half weren't bad. Shot some pool and chatted a bit (she bought her own drink).

Took her to my hotel (no BF). Very sexy, kissing everywhere, deepthroat, cowgirl. A pro in every way.

Had one go and gave her twenty. She went out for dinner and came back at 1am. Had another round, and she demanded more money.

Ended up giving her $15 more just to get rid of her.

Better experience was a gal I found in Bamboo. Not aggressive, friendly, and "up to you" really meant that. Gave her $20 for the night and she seemed happy.Whenever you take a girl in PP make sure they understand it is ST or LT. Lots of bars have private rooms upstairs where a quick FS or BBBJ is done for a small fee. The girls can make lots of money this way. So if they agree to go with you it usually means ST. I negotiated with a girl for LT in the bar and she agreed. After one shot she acted like her stomach is hurting and had to go home. I paid half the agreed amount. Next night I went to the bar and there she was real healthy. When I talked to other girls about it they said this girl does that all the time and comes back to the club to make more money upstairs.

That night they pushed a young girl on me who was a real sweetheart and stayed the whole night and next day as well. Since I was leaving the next day could not keep her.

Titanio
12-10-11, 00:31
Whenever you take a girl in PP make sure they understand it is ST or LT. Lots of bars have private rooms upstairs where a quick FS or BBBJ is done for a small fee. The girls can make lots of money this way. So if they agree to go with you it usually means ST. I negotiated with a girl for LT in the bar and she agreed. After one shot she acted like her stomach is hurting and had to go home. I paid half the agreed amount. Next night I went to the bar and there she was real healthy. When I talked to other girls about it they said this girl does that all the time and comes back to the club to make more money upstairs.

That night they pushed a young girl on me who was a real sweetheart and stayed the whole night and next day as well. Since I was leaving the next day could not keep her.Unfortunately a quite common act you see more and more nowadays in PP. But you can already recognise this habit when they left their clothes in the badroom after a shower, or take it with them after round 1. I always make sure to have a 10 and a 1 dollar bill ready by then. 10 for the performance while telling them longtime is at least 3 pops and now only giving one, and one dollar tip for motobike ride back to their bar or home. They will complain first but being firm they will accept quite quickly and the next night have a long friendly talk with the bar owner. Girls will see that and it will help you.

Nail The World
12-10-11, 12:16
Enjoying time in PP. Friendly girls, affordable price, haven't met a stunner yet though. Have checked out almost all the bars on st 136 and a few on 104. Going to repeat street 104 soon.

Rose bar and Zanzibar on 104 are both ugly. In Zanzibar there's a tall, large, dark hot chick who sits (literally) on the counter, drifts over to new customers, grabs a lady drink and comes back to her pedestal. Everybody else is under 5. Can't imagine someone recommending it. I would like to have my lady drink back from her if I could.

I didn't know some bars had upstairs facility for recreation. Will inquire about that.

Best experience so far was from a bar on street 110. Lovely 22 yr old, 100% up to you all the time, excellent attitude, pretty face, only 1 month in business. Single mom, short, light with a pussy you could drive a truck though. Had to let her go after 2 days.

There's a (apparently new) Mr. Butterfly bar on St 136 at the first intersection from riverside. Cute girls but apparently they don't go to hotel with you. They were ok going dancing though. $7 barfine. I wouldn't barfine anyone if she wouldn't spread her legs.

Got ripped off by a Vietnamese from Martini's. My mistake I didn't negotiate upfront. The whole fucking Vietnamese breed is dangerous.

Dream bar (forgot what street it was on) seemed to have mature women (25+) with good attitude, physically and mentally grown up, looks like they would be able to take any kind of abuse. There's a Dream bar 2 on 136, nothing home to write about.

Bar 69 on 136 had their lady drinks priced at $4 when rest of the world is at $3 (Angkor beer). Fuck'them.

Haven't checked out the night clubs yet. Will be here long enough to see it all though.

Carlos Spain
12-11-11, 14:41
Someone can talk about this place? This site is ST girls for LT?

Greetings!

Leftfield1965
12-12-11, 05:05
I'd be interested to know that too, I guessing however we'd have probably heard about it before.

Regarding the fashion cafe, I'm interested in checking it out. From what I heard it's hard to find for the first time during the day because it's hidden by all the local stalls on the pavement. But at night they're all cleared away and the neon lights come on. It certainly sounds like an interesting one, from what I heard the ladies cost somewhat more than the average place but are supposed to be of a greater quality. Thought I'd pop in and see for myself.Have you managed to drop in there yet, and if so what's it like? Also, what street is this Fashion Cafe on?

Cheers.

Noobmonger
12-12-11, 11:53
Have you managed to drop in there yet, and if so what's it like? Also, what street is this Fashion Cafe on?

Cheers.I don't arrive for a few weeks, but will track it down once I do.

It's is on Kampuchea Krom, just west of the central market. I've attached a map and flyer I found on khmer440.

I've heard it's nearly impossible to find until it gets dark and the barber shops close. Opposite the bar is a Japanese restaurant called Ichiriki Tei. Good luck.

Nail The World
12-13-11, 03:54
It's is on Kampuchea Krom, just west of the central market. I've attached a map and flyer I found on khmer440.In the thread on khmer440 someone talks about that place being about 3 month old. Is that the right place?

Google search revealed another fashion cafe. http://www.thebodia.com/business/Entertainment/Fashion-Cafe-Lounge This one is apparently on St 148. I should be able to verify it easily. I actually started walking down that street one day because I saw a bunch of billboards but turned around when the first few seemed to be massage places.

What's the big deal about this Fashion thing anyway. From my experience in PP it's all the same. Yet different. Depending on the day. And time.

Faidenk
12-13-11, 09:33
I don't arrive for a few weeks, but will track it down once I do.

It's is on Kampuchea Krom, just west of the central market. I've attached a map and flyer I found on khmer440.

I've heard it's nearly impossible to find until it gets dark and the barber shops close. Opposite the bar is a Japanese restaurant called Ichiriki Tei. Good luck.Fashion has changed its name to Tokyo Lounge. Same girls, same boss, same location. I think name is changed to reflect their new Japanese menu, haven't been there since the change.

Noobmonger
12-13-11, 11:01
In the thread on khmer440 someone talks about that place being about 3 month old. Is that the right place?

Google search revealed another fashion cafe.

http://www.thebodia.com/business/Entertainment/Fashion-Cafe-Lounge

This one is apparently on St 148. I should be able to verify it easily. I actually started walking down that street one day because I saw a bunch of billboards but turned around when the first few seemed to be massage places.

What's the big deal about this Fashion thing anyway. From my experience in PP it's all the same. Yet different. Depending on the day. And time.I don't think the one on thebodia is correct or the same place. On the khmer440 thread the last post is the manager of fashion lounge confirming that the details I copied here are correct. Which would mean it's not on street 148.

As for the big deal, I'm not sure if there is one. However from what I understand the girls are of above average quality and speak above average english. For me that's worth checking out, if it's no good I can always leave by the door I walked in.

Noobmonger
12-14-11, 13:40
Fashion has changed its name to Tokyo Lounge. Same girls, same boss, same location. I think name is changed to reflect their new Japanese menu, haven't been there since the change.Thanks for that, only just found this comment. The required moderation of each message really does screw with the flow of conversation.

Name change noted, wonder if the menu is any good. I go to the Meeting Place often as they have a decent french menu. Unfortunately my experience of the girls there isn't so good. Spent an hour chatting with one girl and buying her drinks only for her to say she doesn't go with customers, she brought over a fairly nice girl who did but the it was a pretty disappointing (and costly) experience.

Nail The World
12-15-11, 08:36
Rose bar on 104 is not ugly. I am taking my earlier statement back. Happened to be there a few days ago again and it was a regular bar except with a plethora of girls (50 they say) with all kinds, shapes, sizes and ages mixed in. The first time I was there 4 super ugly girls jumped on me and that was all I could see. They need to be careful interacting with customers, you never know who might go and post on the internet! But that's part and parcel of a society getting rebuilt. There will be time few decades down the road when they'll start having preferences who they let in and who they go out with!

But sticking by my statement that Zanzibar is to be avoided. Two chances are enough.

CowboyBebop2011
12-15-11, 11:29
Whenever you take a girl in PP make sure they understand it is ST or LT. Lots of bars have private rooms upstairs where a quick FS or BBBJ is done for a small fee. The girls can make lots of money this way. So if they agree to go with you it usually means ST. I negotiated with a girl for LT in the bar and she agreed. After one shot she acted like her stomach is hurting and had to go home. I paid half the agreed amount. Next night I went to the bar and there she was real healthy. When I talked to other girls about it they said this girl does that all the time and comes back to the club to make more money upstairs.

That night they pushed a young girl on me who was a real sweetheart and stayed the whole night and next day as well. Since I was leaving the next day could not keep her.Hey mate, can you tell us which bar this is?

And do you remember the name of the girl that tricked you?

And the name of the young girl who "was a real sweetheart and stayed the whole night"? Did you have to say anything to the mamasan to get this girl?

Thanks mate.

Faidenk
12-15-11, 11:34
Thanks for that, only just found this comment. The required moderation of each message really does screw with the flow of conversation.

Name change noted, wonder if the menu is any good. I go to the Meeting Place often as they have a decent french menu. Unfortunately my experience of the girls there isn't so good. Spent an hour chatting with one girl and buying her drinks only for her to say she doesn't go with customers, she brought over a fairly nice girl who did but the it was a pretty disappointing (and costly) experience.I don't know why I am being moderated since I joined in 2006 (or maybe even earlier) and posted some of my experiences while in China. I didn't pursue the matter since I am not very active here. Maybe it's because I have only 17 posts, including this, since I joined so technically a newbie.

Cheers

YouPornFan
12-17-11, 05:56
The other day I was in PP and happened to be in the street where Fashion cafe should be (couldn't find it). What I noticed was that there are some Vietnamese barber shops (hot toc) on that street and was wondering whether you can get the same services (BJ) as in Vietnam. Does anybody know? Didn't have time to try out myself but will give it a try the next time I'm in PP. Any info beforehand would be appreciated.I tried few times to get this kind of service in the Hot Toc shops around Psar Thmei. However, it was unsuccessful each time so I stopped. In HCMC, they are really upfront and bring you to the BJ place at the back of the Hot Toc without asking questions. Here, it seems harder due to NGO investigations. Locals told me they could get some in small rooms upstairs in some of the Hot Toc places. They seem to do massage + BJ + boom boom there. However, I never managed to make it myself. I always try to go to the Hot Toc places with many girls. I must be really unlucky.

Sammon
12-17-11, 17:44
Hey mate, can you tell us which bar this is?

And do you remember the name of the girl that tricked you?

And the name of the young girl who "was a real sweetheart and stayed the whole night"? Did you have to say anything to the mamasan to get this girl?

Thanks mate.I believe this bar is on 104 st. I try not to remember any names mainly because their names are usually toungue twisters. Besides I do not think they use their real names.

English fluency is not there so no real communication.

In this bar there were no mamasans. Set up is once you enter one of the girls take your order for drink and bring the drink and sit with you. You can buy her a drink but they do not ask for it.

I had a english speaking girl. I did buy her couple of drinks and asked her about what I am looking for. LT with the girl of my choice. Once I selected the girl, the girl was called and was real friendly hugging and kissing.

Negotiation was done through the english speaking girl. The girl promised LT.

I guess the next night the english speaking girl felt sorry for me and introduced the young girl with perfect big stand up boobs clearly explaing to her that she needs to stay till morning.

The girl must have liked me and ended up staying with me all next day till it was time for me to leave to airport. Sexwise she was inexperienced. I like to teach. She told me the same story in broken english that.

Her family is poor from province etc. She promised to take me there next time I visit. But next time I went after about 4 months she was not there possibly found a bf. Sweet young things like her are picked up.

Fast I am sure.

Nail The World
12-17-11, 18:57
Opposite the bar is a Japanese restaurant called Ichiriki Tei. Good luck.OK, this "lounge" has been checked out. It's a bar / lounge with no possibility of girl going out with you. This is the short story. It's not the same kind of bar as those on the riverside.

Location on the map is correct. It has a large blue colored blinking sign "Tokyo Lounge". That should make it obvious. It's on the side of the road opposite to where all the barber shops are. So no need to be searching among the barber shops. There sure is a shitload of barbers over there. More shops than customers. Where the barber shops end there's the Japanese restaurant and "exactly" opposite the restaurant is this bar.

The girls are very friendly and conduct themselves very well. They do what they are supposed to do by being very good hostesses. Some of them are tiny, young, small sized with Japanese cafe style comical short dresses. Others are regular girls but with friendly attitude. This has been designed specifically with Japanese clientele in mind, others may find it amusing / entertaining / annoying depending on your mood. All girls speak 4-5 sentences of Japanese. The girls were not of my type and were most definitely not stunners.

I only asked the girl to go dancing with me after three drinks. She wouldn't even do that. She might have freaked out on being asked to go to hotel. You can hold their hand and wrap your arms around them, they are Cambodian.

They do have happy hour from 6-8 with buy 1 get 1 free but it applies only to your drinks and not to lady drinks.

Make your own opinion about it. If this information was available beforehand I wouldn't have bothered with it.

Romeo Blue
12-17-11, 21:22
I have been a few times in club blue in street 136 right opposit the bar136.

Its a nice bar and you will see the blue light there.

Many pretty girls there. The barfine is 10$ and I took several girls out there.

One very nice girl I can recomand is Mean. She can speak good english and I invited her fr some drinks.

Get her attention and you will have a nice evening.

I didn't took her out, but talked a lot with her.

Wendella
12-18-11, 08:43
Rose bar on 104 is not ugly... . The first time I was there 4 super ugly girls jumped on me and that was all I could see.So you were temporarily blinded by their ugliness. ;)

Nail The World
12-18-11, 11:00
So you were temporarily blinded by their ugliness. ;)I was! On second visit it looked like just another bar which probably should be on a must see list because of the sheer number of girls that offer quite a cross section of what's to be expected from other bars in PP in general.

Nail The World
12-18-11, 11:50
cyrcee bar. avoid. sorry to disappoint the shills of this bar but this bar is a comprehensive disappointment. it is good neither as a st bar nor as lt bar. i went there one time as a last stop on the way home to see if it held any promise as a st bar and if so then to utilize its services. for a st bar one would expect the full line up to be available. it's not the case here at all. acts just like a regular bar. very small with not too many girls. there were 4-5 punters already there with 1 or 2 girls clinging to each of them. one, the bar seemed to be overflowing with only these many punters and two, the clinging girls were temporarily out of market. anything that was remotely fuckable was "clinging". an ugly girl harassed me until i acted totally deaf. i paid for my drink, left a small tip and got the hell out of there. good thing is it is so far out of the way that one is not likely to stumble upon it by mistake. that's the reason i think it needs extra "promotion". and that's why i was surprised to see 4-5 punters already inside. too bad i won't be able to find out if it's the same segment of population that visits there everyday because i am not going there ever again.

candy bar (on 136). avoid. saturday night at 11pm it looked like samuel jackson from pulp fiction had been there an hour earlier. maybe it's the lighting, or lack of it, that furniture and bar counter looked it had been shot and bombed and dropped in place. this is a big sized bar with plenty of girls with a common uniform. about 12 of them were in the only lit corner of the bar, some sitting and some struggling to get a peek on something going on in the center (maybe a game, billing, a samuel jackson kill, who knows). occasionally they would turn around to glance at the bar but mostly they were busy with their affairs with no regard to saturday night, bar, drinks, customer, or anything of import to the reason they were there in the first place. punters were relaxing on sofas having found their saturday night companion, some others were being heavily attended to at one corner of the bar counter. i managed to get myself served but the girl then immediately fled. i paid for my drink, did not leave any tip and got the hell out of there.

sizzlers (on 136). this one was sizzling! right after the pulp fiction scene at candy bar i stepped into sizzlers and found it really sizzling. this one is also a decent sized bar with plenty of girls. i quickly found a few decent girls to have drinks with, some punters were being attended to, some girls were busy with themselves like some of them do at every bar (why do they even come to work?) , and some girls were attentive to new customers. just like a bar should be. except that i saw some 4-5 very doable girls. one of them was sitting with me. she turned out to be on period when i asked her to come with me(!!!). i tipped the other two girls a dollar each, did not give this girl anything and called it a night. will go there again.

Noobmonger
12-18-11, 12:39
I have been a few times in club blue in street 136 right opposit the bar136.

Its a nice bar and you will see the blue light there.

Many pretty girls there. The barfine is 10$ and I took several girls out there.I saw this place advertised as a "High Class Lounge". Just wondered what difference, apart from a steep $10 bar fine, this bar has from the regular hostess bars? I don't mind paying a little extra if it's worth it.

AussieGuy100
12-18-11, 14:24
Guess I must be one of the newbies and "shills" mentioned! I've been to PP four times now and spent two months there, so have reasonable experience of the place and try to be honest with my reports.

What I have found is that you can get completely different experiences in a given bar depending what time of night you visit.

Cyrcee bar is good early on (7-8pm) when the girls are fresh and far fewer punters are inside. Obviously if U-turn up very late in most bars, there will be fewer girls and they will be tired after doing six hours of "where you from?" and "you in PP on vacation?" plus possibly have done a couple of STs.

As to Cyrcee bar girl ratings, yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it depends what you are after. Maybe I've just been lucky when I've been there.

I'm looking forward to my next trip in February.

AussieGuy100
12-18-11, 14:32
My (brief) experience of the Fashion Lounge was that it was a complete waste of time. Took me a while to find, as it was No. 15 not 16, and slightly hidden. Not many girls and when I asked them if any went out on ST / LT, they pointed to the ugliest one and said "only her". And for some huge amount of $ as well.

AussieGuy100
12-18-11, 14:54
Nothing seems to generate as much comment here as the question of money, how much for ST, LT, and everything in between.

I am sure that $10 shags still exist in PP. But as with most things in life, you get what you pay for. $10 will probably get you a plain girl in a dirty brothel or some desperate street girl. Unless of course you are one of the seemingly miraculous posters on this forum who seem to score gorgeous girls for $10 or $15 whenever they want. Good luck to them. The only $10 shag I got was with an ugly girl in a backstreet brothel in Battambang. It was horrible.

The other thing to remember is that you are not buying a product, but negotiating with a person for their services. Sure you can do the heavy bargaining and beat them down in price, as most really need the money, but what kind of attitude do you think they will have when you take them back to your hotel? How would you yourself feel if some areshole beat you down heavily in price for your professional services in IT, construction or whatever industry you are in? You'd feel pissed off. In my experience I've had much more attention, interest and performance from a girl if I've just lightly negotiated her price down from maybe $50 to $40 for LT rather than trying to force her down to $25 or so. To me it's worth the extra $5-10 for a happier girl.

AussieGuy100
12-18-11, 14:55
Nothing seems to generate as much comment here as the question of money, how much for ST, LT, and everything in between.

I am sure that $10 shags still exist in PP. But as with most things in life, you get what you pay for. $10 will probably get you a plain girl in a dirty brothel or some desperate street girl. Unless of course you are one of the seemingly miraculous posters on this forum who seem to score gorgeous girls for $10 or $15 whenever they want. Good luck to them. The only $10 shag I got was with an ugly girl in a backstreet brothel in Battambang. It was horrible.

The other thing to remember is that you are not buying a product, but negotiating with a person for their services. Sure you can do the heavy bargaining and beat them down in price, as most really need the money, but what kind of attitude do you think they will have when you take them back to your hotel? How would you yourself feel if some areshole beat you down heavily in price for your professional services in IT, construction or whatever industry you are in? You'd feel pissed off. In my experience I've had much more attention, interest and performance from a girl if I've just lightly negotiated her price down from maybe $50 to $40 for LT rather than trying to force her down to $25 or so. To me it's worth the extra $5-10 for a happier girl.

Wendella
12-18-11, 16:49
Cyrcee bar. Avoid.

Candy bar (on 136). Avoid.

Sizzlers (on 136). This one was sizzling!I'm not sure it's good strategy to write a place off forever based on one visit. If you go back to Sizzler's tomorrow (by the way, how were the steaks?) and certain things annoy you there the next time, then you'd probably also avoid that one for good. Within a couple of weeks of this you would be done with all of Phnom Penh for good. No bars are good every night. And maybe your perfect girl just happened to be barfined out of Candy and Cyrcee on the nights you were there.

Cyrcee bar does have a thing about more than one girl attending a customer. Great if you get there when the place is empty, but lousy if you're the last one in. Maybe the solution is just to get there earlier. Because it's a small bar, one needs some patience. Come one time, spot one you like but she's occupied. Make a mental note and come back another night. Easy enough. But tonight you just have one beer and then go if there's nothing there worth staying for. I'm no big fan of Cyrcee by the way -- for me it's too far from the rest of the bars and not enough girls work there to make discovering the hidden gem very likely.

One thing I will say: if a place has lots of girls, then it means it probably also has more turnover and fresh faces appearing. It also obviously has a better selection than a smaller bar with fewer girls. Things change in these bars, often from one night to the next. What was lousy on Tuesday might be heaven on Wednesday. If I was going to write off any bar, it would be one that was small where the girls were all long in the tooth, and after repeated visits it seemed to always be the same. In a bar like that, for me there's nothing there worth visiting for. But in a big bar with lots of girls, there's much more likely to be the one I'm looking for. And if some jaded girl there is rude, or whatever, I'd still feel like I need to come back a few times to figure out whether it's just that girl or if it's the general attitude of all of them who work there. And you can't really find that out from one short visit. If I did that, then I'd be letting one or 2 girls with bad attitude be the deciding factor in my ever hooking up with a great girl there. That would be self-defeating. Who cares if the place has a few lemons. I was in Candy just once or twice and never took anything out -- seemed about the same as many other places, but obviously a much bigger staff than most.

Anyway, that's my take. For me, the girl I hook up with is what it's all about. And these things like drink prices or what music they play, or if the general vibe is friendly or not. It's all low priority for me. But maybe that's just me.

Wendella
12-18-11, 16:53
Nothing seems to generate as much comment here as the question of money, how much for ST, LT, and everything in between.Sometimes it even generates two identical comments by the same person. ;)

Nail The World
12-18-11, 17:38
Guess I must be one of the newbies and "shills" mentioned!Yes you are.



Cyrcee bar is good early on (7-8pm) when the girls are fresh and far fewer punters are inside. Obviously if U-turn up very late in most bars, there will be fewer girls and they will be tired after doing six hours of "where you from?" and "you in PP on vacation?" plus possibly have done a couple of STs.

It's not a short time bar, period. For better ST go to Martini's. $15-$20 a pop, no barfine, range of girls available. That's what you call a ST bar, not a den where the few girls available get "exhausted". Not my problem.

Noobmonger
12-18-11, 20:53
Guess I must be one of the newbies and "shills" mentioned!
Yes you are.Everyone's mileage varies, I'm not sure why someone who has a different experience to you has to be a shill. One might conclude given the big deal you make of it that you had a vested interest in keeping people out of Cyrcee.

Anyway the emotions it seems to have raised has certainly piqued my interested and I'm now going to make it one of the first places I visit when I arrive. I'm dying to see if it's as good or bad, depending who you speak to, it really is.

AussieGuy100
12-18-11, 21:57
Yes you are.

It's not a short time bar, period. For better ST go to Martini's. $15-$20 a pop, no barfine, range of girls available. That's what you call a ST bar, not a den where the few girls available get "exhausted". Not my problem.Depends what you mean by short time bar. To me any bar has ST possibilities, though obviously the girls in some bars (like Zapata on 110) prefer LT, whilst others in places like Cyrcee or 69 prefer ST.

Martinis has no barfine because the girls are all freelancers. The bar owner there would know much less about the girls' history than in a regular hostess type bar, and my guess would be that the HIV prevalence is higher there. Often girls become freelancers because they can't get a regular job in a bar due to having HIV.

Also Martinis only seems to be worthwhile very late at night. Being an old fart, sometimes I don't want to stay up too late waiting for some action!

The only place I've found for afternoon ST opportunities is the Walkabout. Are there other better places someone can recommend?

Nail The World
12-19-11, 07:48
I'm now going to make it one of the first places I visit when I arrive. I'm dying to see if it's as good or bad, depending who you speak to, it really is.Please do report back :)

I may have extinguished your appetite for Tokyo Lounge. Apologize for that.

Nail The World
12-19-11, 07:57
Martinis has no barfine because the girls are all freelancers. The bar owner there would know much less about the girls' history than in a regular hostess type bar, and my guess would be that the HIV prevalence is higher there. Often girls become freelancers because they can't get a regular job in a bar due to having HIV.Sometimes they become freelancers in Cambodia because they are Vietnamese!


Also Martinis only seems to be worthwhile very late at night.

The only place I've found for afternoon ST opportunities is the Walkabout. Are there other better places someone can recommend?It opens at 7pm with only a few girls around. By 9pm it's fully hopping. Walkabout is another so called "ST" option open 24 hours with varying attendance. All the bars open at 4pm, some even at 2pm (I think it was Rose bar where they said they opened at 2pm. Maybe, maybe not).

Noobmonger
12-19-11, 16:39
Please do report back :)I sure will.


I may have extinguished your appetite for Tokyo Lounge. Apologize for that.No problem. To be sure I emailed the guy on khmer440 who said he was the manager and asked him. He says he is no longer the manager but confirmed that the girls do not go with customers. However he said it is still a nice place to go if you just want some female company. Though I don't think it will really be of interest to those on here. I may still pop in just to see. He said the owner also owns sizzler and blue, both of which the girls will go with customers.

Wendella
12-21-11, 07:14
Yes you are.

It's not a short time bar, period. For better ST go to Martini's. $15-$20 a pop, no barfine, range of girls available. That's what you call a ST bar, not a den where the few girls available get "exhausted". Not my problem.I'm trying to figure out the logic here. So if there are 2 restaurants and both serve mainly seafood, but one is more expensive. The more expensive one is not a seafood restaurant? Period?

Nail The World
12-21-11, 11:12
I'm trying to figure out the logic here. So if there are 2 restaurants and both serve mainly seafood, but one is more expensive. The more expensive one is not a seafood restaurant? Period?No Sir, that's not the point. The correct way to say this is that all the bars are both ST and LT bars. I was mainly taking objection to the promotion that was going on for a specific bar for ST purposes. I wanted to reject the notion that there was anything special about that bar regarding ST. There isn't. I simplified it in the statement that you quoted. I just wanted to offer a monger's opinion and leave it at that. The topic and the bar in question is not worth debating ad nauseam.

How about I say this. All bars offer ST and LT possibilities and that Martini's / Walkabout are dedicated spots for wham bam. There being more bars by the riverside there are more choices to be had.

Nail The World
12-21-11, 12:08
A tuktuk driver lured me into going there and a very decent place it turned out to be. There was a fishbowl with about 20 girls, Cambodian and Vietnamese identified with different colored badges, one could easily find someone to fuck. The girl couldn't massage if her life depended on it. I guess others must be the same way. This is total wham bam place.

$10 to the house and I paid $20 to the girl because that's what the tuktuk driver had mentioned. She wanted $50 though and gradually came down.

#28 on St 252 Yang Mey massage house. You have to cross the Monivong street coming from riverside. It's in a residential area and not a lot of signs and lighting until you get smack in front of the place, would be hard to find without help. Opens at 1pm and closes at midnight. This is what I would call a ST place. $10 gives you access to the girl and a room.

Noobmonger
12-21-11, 12:31
A tuktuk driver lured me into going there and a very decent place it turned out to be. There was a fishbowl with about 20 girls, Cambodian and Vietnamese identified with different colored badges, one could easily find someone to fuck. The girl couldn't massage if her life depended on it. I guess others must be the same way. This is total wham bam place.

$10 to the house and I paid $20 to the girl because that's what the tuktuk driver had mentioned. She wanted $50 though and gradually came down.

#28 on St 252 Yang Mey massage house. You have to cross the Monivong street coming from riverside. It's in a residential area and not a lot of signs and lighting until you get smack in front of the place, would be hard to find without help. Opens at 1pm and closes at midnight. This is what I would call a ST place. $10 gives you access to the girl and a room.Many thanks, been looking for more fish bowl massage places for day time mongering.

Just wanted to double check that address. According to google maps St 252 stops at Monivong street, are you sure it wasn't St 250?

AussieGuy100
12-21-11, 12:33
On my first visit to PP, some Khmer friends took me to a great beer garden over the bridge, with good food, a big singing stage, and lovely willing Angkor beer girls selling more than the amber fluid. On subsequent visits I haven't been able to find the same place again (I was reasonably drunk on that first visit and don't remember what the entrance looked like!). I know there are several beer gardens in a row on the left hand side of the road as you head South. Can anyone recommend a good one (in terms of quality and willingness of the girls)?

AussieGuy100
12-21-11, 19:44
Hi Guys, have you seen any slim and busty (larger-than-average) girls for hire in Phnom Penh? I will be there in March and am much obliged for any referrals!I would think March is too far ahead to nominate a specific girl in a specific bar. The girls often come and go every few months. I think my initial strategy would be to agree a good travel deal with a tuk tuk (or moto) driver for say three hours exclusive use ($10?) , and have him take you around the best places in streets 104, 136, 51 and maybe 110. You could dash in, briefly check out the talent, and then if nothing to your liking, move on. At a rough guess this would let you rapidly check out up to 400 girls!

Nail The World
12-21-11, 21:48
Just wanted to double check that address. According to google maps St 252 stops at Monivong street, are you sure it wasn't St 250?I posted the address from their business card. I couldn't keep track of streets and twists and turns as I was going there. I don't know if the address on business card is wrong. Some streets exist on only one side of Monivong is what I noticed one time looking at google maps.

Nail The World
12-22-11, 06:02
#28 on St 252 Yang Mey massage house. You have to cross the Monivong street coming from riverside.I think I may have its location wrong regarding Monivong. That I am trying to recall from memory. But the address is from business card, so I would go by that.

Nail The World
12-22-11, 06:49
Sizzlers. Sure enough found something strange about this one. Some of the lookers / bubbly girls there are "virgins"! And they seemed to be around 22. They have about 5 of them. I didn't enquire too much but it obviously means they won't go out with customers. So this is something to keep in mind while splurging on the girls.

This happened in one another bar too where there was a girl who "just didn't go out with customers". Obviously she was the best looking and best spoken one. I've been in that bar several times and have taken out a girl from there so if she was lying I would have known.

Logos
12-22-11, 07:21
arrived yesterday noon in pp. after checking in went to the wa for the usual quick release with aome non descript average girl. no price discussion, minimum dialogue, just a quick nod and a gesture "let's go", she was trotting along to the small st places around the corner. 15$ paid and no fuss, decent action. went back to the hotel for a late nap as the jetlag was taking its toll.

in the evening after an hour doing some work at the banana bar (where i met johnny howard and lpb from ggc) i had a couple drinks at dream bar, that bar round the corner on street 118 with an outside sitting area, nothing good there in about 15 girls present; checked out sharkeys which was absolutely dismal, maybe 20 guys and 5 girls, then drove off and hit the wa again but nothing worth of a second look.

after a couple drinks with an old timer, shane, i went out for noodle (5000 riel and a perfect night meal) , chatted up a few girls then hit pontoon, the largest free lance disco (near hod on st 51) , which since last april seems to be busier than ever, with dozens of choice poon. a couple of girls smiled and others came over to parade, but after 15-20' my eyes caught sight of a slim girl standing by herself near the sittees at the back.

now i often have a hard time picking a girl i genuinely like as i have learned, or grown, to be extremely chosy. some would say difficult, and they would probably be right. i am not remotely attracted by girls who overdo it : overdress, underdress, those who confuse near nakedness with sex appeal, those who smoke or drink, those who sport tattoos, those who speak, or even worse, scream and bark in a raucous voice amidst their peers. those i gladly leave to punters attracted by a hard core element. my kind of girl is more traditional, better behaved, demure, not necessarily provocative. actually i've taken numerous times girls dressed like farm-fresh peasants over sexy almost topless supermodels, as long as i could see in their eyes, faces, smiles and attitudes the promise of a good time. not merely in the sack but an overall gfe feeling.

sorry to digress. but the outcome of the meeting that followed was so totally and utterly unexpected that it did require some background.

back to the pontoon and to the slim girl i had just spotted. she was wearing a dark skirt and a greenish teeshirt that didn't hide the firmness of her body despite their total blandness. short hair, cute face, at least 25 and apparently by herself. no drink in hand, no smokes, no fancy mobile, no fake jewelry, just a barrette to hold her hair together. now she was still standing but no longer alone, a tall beefy guy had just arrived and was standing near her in the last few minutes, and was probably about to make his move as he was ogling her as a hungry hunter might ogle a particularly tender piece of prime wild game. it took me about 10 seconds to walk past them and stand on her other side and to take her hand and throw her my friendliest and earnest smile. hey, i'm logos, the guy that cares about girls just like you. the tall brute next to her quit and walked away in disgust. i was in. or so i thought.

after realizing that her english was probably even worse than my khmer (another good point on my score card) , i somehow managed to drag her out of there, telling her with a nod and a smile that the hotel wasn't far. but i could feel some reluctance; she explained in gestures that she did have some friends inside and would like to tell them she was coming out. or something to that effect.

there is no point in trying to force anything on a girl in that kind of situation so i agreed to go back inside (pat and cursory search despite us having been out for 30 seconds) and her friends were in the entrance hall, either following her or waiting for her. there were 4 of them. 2 or 3 real lookers and a fat one, who apparently was their self-appointed leader and spokeswoman. why is it that fat, short girls always take the lead when you want to discuss anything with their friends but not with them? anyway, she explained that her friend, davy, couldn't speak much english, and that should she come with me, should be treated with care as she'd had not much experience. actually, not only had she had not much experience, it would be fairer to say that she's had zero experience. and to drive the point home, she added, no boy friend, never boy friend before! she didn't say "cherry girl" as a filipina would have but it was close enough.

i looked at my girl again.how could that be, she did look nice and fairly innocent but she wasn't a day under 25 at least, but she nodded, and flashed a little smile that revealed a cute crooked tooth, exactly the way i like a smile, good but not perfect, clean but not cosmetic clean, just natural. i then ensured her friends that i was a nice guy, it didn't matter, i could take good care of her. are you married? good heavens no! , are you tourist or living here? how long you stay cambodia? i am tourist for " months, living in singapore and coming often, look i have laan, showing them the car keys. i could then hear talk among themselves, a couple of the friends were pushing cherry girl towards me while the fat one had still some reservations "where you staying?" well, in a nice hotel not too far and we go there by car."have many rooms in yoru hotel?" yes, many rooms."can take me and my friends in a room for 5, so we stay same hotel"? no, sorry, not possible i'm afraid. at which stage the 4 other girls had had enough as well and pushed cherry girl to me "you go, you go" and hushed fatty away.

so we finally exited for good and went to my car.

and for the rest you'll have to wait part 2 as it's getting late (shit, almost 7 am local time) and i have to look good tomorrow, you leechy pervs

Wendella
12-22-11, 08:23
Hi Guys, have you seen any slim and busty (larger-than-average) girls for hire in Phnom Penh? I will be there in March and am much obliged for any referrals!D Cups is a bit like that blimp in Bladerunner that flies over head every once in awhile. No matter which thread you are in, every now and then you look up and there's D Cups with his same message "Looking for big-boobs. Have you seen any big boobs?" ;)

No offense meant, I just find it humorous the way you make these regular announcements

D Cups
12-22-11, 14:37
I forgot to add, guys, that when I travel I bring along some 32, 34, 36 and 38 C, D and DD bras and bikinis as gifts for the girls I find! It is a little bit like Cinderella and the glass slipper. They are usually quite appreciative as they cannot find lingerie that fits them in their country. It is great, great fun to watch them try it on and take some photos of the robing and disrobing of their golden globes. A terrific prelude to terrific sex!


Thanks, AussieGuy, that is exactly what I will do!

Hi Wendella, my motto is "finding the world's largest bangable boobs". The assistance and intel I have gotten from ISGers like AussieGuy have been phenomenal! .

Tiger 888
12-23-11, 03:22
...And for the rest you'll have to wait part 2 as it's getting late (shit, almost 7 am local time) and I have to look good tomorrow, you leechy pervsThat could have been a story of mine, just my writing style would not be at par.
Exactly my style of mongering. Can't wait to read part 2.

Wendella
12-23-11, 09:45
I forgot to add, guys, that when I travel I bring along some 32, 34, 36 and 38 C, D and DD bras and bikinis as gifts for the girls I find! It is a little bit like Cinderella and the glass slipper. They are usually quite appreciative as they cannot find lingerie that fits them in their country. It is great, great fun to watch them try it on and take some photos of the robing and disrobing of their golden globes. A terrific prelude to terrific sex!Guess that makes you Prince Charming.

I'm sure you make the day of plenty of airport customs officers, who just may get the wrong idea.

Raverboy
12-23-11, 12:02
... Back to the pontoon and to the slim girl I had just spotted. She was wearing a dark skirt and a greenish teeshirt that didn't hide the firmness of her body despite their total blandness. Short hair, cute face, at least 25 and apparently by herself. No drink in hand, no smokes, no fancy mobile, no fake jewelry, just a barrette to hold her hair together. Now she was still standing but no longer alone, a tall beefy guy had just arrived and was standing near her in the last few minutes, and was probably about to make his move as he was ogling her as a hungry hunter might ogle a particularly tender piece of prime wild game. It took me about 10 seconds to walk past them and stand on her other side and to take her hand and throw her my friendliest and earnest smile. Hey, I'm Logos, the guy that cares about girls just like you. The tall brute next to her quit and walked away in disgust. I was in. Or so I thought.

After realizing that her English was probably even worse than my khmer (another good point on my score card)... Anyway, she explained that her friend, davy, couldn't speak much english, and that should she come with me, should be treated with care as she'd had not much experience. Actually, not only had she had not much experience, it would be fairer to say that she's had zero experience. And to drive the point home, she added, no boy friend, never boy friend before! She didn't say "cherry girl" as a filipina would have but it was close enough.

I looked at my girl again. How could that be, she did look nice and fairly innocent but she wasn't a day under 25 at least, but she nodded, and flashed a little smile that revealed a cute crooked tooth, exactly the way I like a smile, good but not perfect, clean but not cosmetic clean, just natural.

You've just described my ideal pickup, in Cambodia or anywhere else in the world for that matter, as well as the very reason I continue to monger to this day. Its the thrill of the chase of that first 'high'. I salute you.

Pak Mike
12-23-11, 16:36
Back in PP after an absence of around 5 years. Cruised 104 & 136 street bars and was totally disappointed, very poor offerings. Not sure if it as a bad night, but all the gals very average looking and nothing caught my eye. Wasn't the case 5 years ago, and a lot of my regular haunts have since closed.

Noobmonger
12-24-11, 11:29
I think I may have its location wrong regarding Monivong. That I am trying to recall from memory. But the address is from business card, so I would go by that.That's cool, I did some searching for the name and found some Cambodian government register of all massage shops. That had pretty much the same address (27 Street 252) which places it between street 63 and Monivong. I arrive in a week and I'll probably venture down there after I check into my hotel in order to get some post travel relief.

Regarding the government register (found here: http://www.cambodiatourismindustry.gov.kh/khmer/images/stories/Portal2/All_Annual_Statistics/Massage_Phnom_Penh_31_Oct_2010x.pdf) I do wonder if there is any way to tell from the information it gives on each place which of them cater to our interests.

Noobmonger
12-24-11, 11:48
That's cool, I did some searching for the name and found some Cambodian government register of all massage shops. That had pretty much the same address (27 Street 252) which places it between street 63 and Monivong. I arrive in a week and I'll probably venture down there after I check into my hotel in order to get some post travel relief.Just a quick additional note, this address is just a stones throw from the Sakura Hotel (32 Street 242. http://www.sakurahotel.com) which apparently (last confirmed in March here and September elsewhere) has a fishbowl massage. I hope to confirm if it still does during my up coming trip to PP.

This is from the post I found elsewhere:


The Sakura hotel and the (former) Young Chou(?) massage parlor are still there. Decently stocked with a selection of Khmer and Viets. YC had Russians and (on occasions) a couple of Korean girls, for a premium – but I did not try. Massage ranges from $5-$7 for an hour, plus extra if you agree with the girl. The house take a cut on the girls so don’t expect anything lower than $20 or $30 for the nicer ones.According to some googling the address for "Yang Chou", which was apparently closed down, is the same as Yang Mey discussed above so I guess they reopened with a slightly different name.

Nail The World
12-24-11, 12:33
I arrive in a week and I'll probably venture down there after I check into my hotel in order to get some post travel relief.Unfortunately I think it's not a good idea to expect any kind of massage at all. Doesn't look like these people believe in massaging.

When I came here I stayed in Asia Hotel for a few days, reception guy proposed to deliver a massage lady, I agreed because I genuinely wanted a massage and it was also a massage with no massage at all. Looks like one would have to deliberately seek out a place where one could get a real massage. I see a bunch of massage places on Samdech Sothearos blvd, where it intersects with Sihanouk blvd, close to where Shabu Shabu is but haven't felt like trying one of them out so far. I am guessing at least one of them would be decent enough. I did try one a little further from there and did get a real massage but her skills were what she'd probably learnt on the job. But even her trainer had apparently learnt like this. There were some tourist licenses on display but nothing about massage and the room was filthy. It has a big sign "$2 massage" upfront which turns out is for a half hour of foot massage. Place not recommended. Massage and haircut is the speciality of Vietnamese, where again girls learn their trade on the job but there's at least one person, with an interest in business who has been professionally trained and their skills are utterly remarkable.

They had some Chinese women available too, sitting outside the fishbowl. They seemed to be in late 20s, 30s. They might know how to massage. For massage plus boom boom anyone who is not Cambodian is recommended.

Noobmonger
12-24-11, 15:51
Unfortunately I think it's not a good idea to expect any kind of massage at all. Doesn't look like these people believe in massaging.Yeah, by "post travel relief" I really just meant a quick and easy lay. I'll be getting in at lunch time so the options are limited.

As for legitimate massage. There is the Four Seasons opposite Flamingos. Given it's location it was surprisingly, and disappointingly, legitimate and fairly good. I've had good massages at Blue 7 Khmer and Islands in Siem Reap and they both have branches on Sisowath Quay.

There is a place called Sokun's Place on Sisowath near Street 104. I've hear that it's a hair salon downstairs and a massage place upstairs. The massage is supposed to be good, but they will also finish you off with hand relief if you fancy it. That's a theory I plan to test soon.

Edward Behr
12-26-11, 09:16
Quick report on 4N / 5D night stay in PP.

On my first afternoon, went looking around Central Market and in the Tuk Tuk on the way back saw a nice Italian restaurant that I fancied. So I decided to return there for supper and a couple of beers, before heading off to "hunt" later around the girlie bars near the Quayside.

Tuk tuk dropped me by Golden Soraya shopping mall, which was just round the corner from the restaurant I'd seen. I hadn't realised that Heart of Darkness was on this street, so went for a look but it was completely empty, it was about 09:40pm and the doorman told me that it doesn't warm up till 11pm earliest. I carried on walking towards the restaurant and noticed a group of girls at another bar about 3/4 doors away; one of them looked so charming and beautiful but in an understated way so I decided to stop for a pre-dinner beer and see what happened. Well, she joined me in no time, we chatted and hit it off immediately, so I asked if she wanted to go for dinner with me.

After that, back to her bar for another couple of beers and some pool, and by now we're getting on great, so I asked if she would join me for the night. Of course. US$7 bar fine and we agreed US$30 all night. Not going into the details but it was a fabulous night and I had 3 hours sleep! Unbelievable!

The following evening I decided to explore the Quayside girlie bars. My mood wasn't really there after the previous nights exertions, and a touch of food poisoning from the restaurant (which turned out to be shite BTW!) so I just decided to have a few beers around these bars and look up possible options for the nights ahead. I probably visited about 7/8 bars and saw girls hanging outside in that many again and wasn't much taken by the quality or friendliness in any of them.

So the following night I just went back to my original bar, found my friend, paid the bar fine and had a fine evening out. And not much sleep afterwards, again for US$30! On departing the following morning she informed me that today (Sunday) besides being my last day, was also her day off, so we agreed to meet at my hotel at 4pm.

Well, this lovely girl, who didn't look much like a hooker anyway, showed up at 4pm on the dot, scrubbed up like an absolute gem and looking every inch the of sort of sweet, homely girl you'd be proud to take anywhere. We had drinks in the FCC, a long romantic stroll along the quayside as the sun set, and then she took me to a top end Vietnamese restaurant where $US10 brought more supper than both of us could finish.

Then back to my hotel for another US$30 worth of sleepless night, and a sad farewell the following day.

Probably not a typical experience, and judging by the girls I saw elsewhere, and the fact I found her by accident when I wasn't "looking" I think I was just incredibly lucky.

Nice way to brighten up my holiday though!

Noobmonger
12-26-11, 17:40
I carried on walking towards the restaurant and noticed a group of girls at another bar about 3/4 doors away; one of them looked so charming and beautiful but in an understated way so I decided to stop for a pre-dinner beer and see what happened.What's the bar's name out of interest?

Member #4698
12-27-11, 00:23
What's the bar's name out of interest?Yeah Ed, what was the name of the bar and top end Vietnamese restaurant you ate at. I am not after your GF, she will be long gone by the time I get back to Penh, but I am interested in what bar you found her in. I am always interested in bar updates where quality girls hang out.
BTW, a good report. Sounds like you had a great time except for the food mishap.

Noobmonger
12-27-11, 02:07
Yeah Ed, what was the name of the bar and top end Vietnamese restaurant you ate at. I am not after your GF, she will be long gone by the time I get back to Penh, but I am interested in what bar you found her in. I am always interested in bar updates where quality girls hang out.

BTW, a good report. Sounds like you had a great time except for the food mishap.Actually I wouldn't mind getting her name, I'm in town in a week and it would be nice to know if I bump into her. Also the name that Italian restaurant so I can avoid it.

Edward Behr
12-27-11, 13:59
Actually I wouldn't mind getting her name, I'm in town in a week and it would be nice to know if I bump into her. Also the name that Italian restaurant so I can avoid it.Ok responses to various questions.

1. Her name is Mallee, which is my guess at spelling based on her pronunciation. Name disclosed on assurances that you will look after her.

2. I don't remember the Italian restaurant, but just checked on Google maps and I'm reasonably certain it was "Genova" as this is shown at about the right spot.

3. Really sorry I don't remember the bar name at all. Best I can do by way of a description is: starting at Heart of Darkness on Street 51 and facing toward Central Market (so that Soraya Mall is on your left and HoD on your right) , walk towards the market. There are 2/3 girlie bars, with tables outside. Her bar is pretty basic, probably about 5/6 girls sitting around a couple of tables outside, inside, a pool table at the front, then a bar on the left and tables on the right.

4. The one thing I did do correctly is take a note of the Vietnamese restaurant, which is Magnolia.

http://www.asialifeguide.com/Reviews/magnolia.html

BTW on the pricing front I didn't really know the market so I thought that US$50 might be about right for all night, so I opened the bidding at US$30 and she accepted straightaway and didn't ever mention price again, or ask for anything more.

CowboyBebop2011
12-28-11, 10:32
Here's what she wrote on her profile.


my name is lucy from vietnam hcmc. My fee is 20usd for 1 hr massage and 50usd for over-night service. I do special massage service in Cambodia. 24hrs service Call my hcmc phone now +84908290858/+841289969989.Her prices seems a bit high, but she looks hot!

I'd be interested to know if anyone's been with her an can rate her performance.

Disfape
12-29-11, 02:38
Here's what she wrote on her profile.

Her prices seems a bit high, but she looks hot!

I'd be interested to know if anyone's been with her an can rate her performance.Do a web search for those phone numbers, it's a Ho Chi Minh escort service. Could be legit but I doubt the girls would be up to much after a 5 hour bus ride.

I'm super paranoid but as always a possible scenario is drugged & robbed & back over the border never to be seen again.

Noobmonger
12-29-11, 04:35
Ok responses to various questions.Thanks for your responses. I'll look out for the bar. Dunno if I'll bump into your girl but if I do I'll of course treat her well. I'll also avoid that italian restaurant be be sure to try out the vietnamese.

Noobmonger
12-29-11, 06:49
Here's what she wrote on her profile.

Her prices seems a bit high, but she looks hot!

I'd be interested to know if anyone's been with her an can rate her performance.I googled her number and get a fair few hits of her advertising her services in Saigon under various names. Not sure if it's a single girl as advertised or an escort service, one of the many youtube pages I found her number on linked to a saigon escort agency.

Might give her a ring when I'm in town next week. Pricey but I'll take one for the team.

Wendella
12-29-11, 10:56
Any chance some of these "escort services" include the name Ah Heng or anything like that?

There's an infamous scammer in HCMC, a Singaporean, who just scams and does whatever it takes to attract victims I mean customers. If he's using the same photo with different names, it means it's fake. Bait and switch scam, just one of many for this guy. I know he's big on youtube though. Has tons of videos up of all kinds of things. Oh and anyone who goes and gives him business, he'll video them and post their face up online. Have fun with that.

But I could be wrong and this isn't him at all. I'd say if you get a guy answering, good chance it's him.

PM me a link to either the youtube or website and I'll take a look and let you know if it looks like the same shady character.

Betong
12-30-11, 07:30
I'm super paranoid but as always a possible scenario is drugged & robbed & back over the border never to be seen again.Maybe if Nic Cage ever makes 'Phnom Penh Dangerous' but not in real life. Most likely it's a petty scam, probably bait and switch.

Member #4351
12-30-11, 16:57
And for the rest you'll have to wait part 2Still waiting..........................

Pak Mike
01-01-12, 00:19
Popped into the 69 Bar the other night. A LOT of girls, and I think something for everyone. Linked up with a young gal fresh from the provinces and first night on the job. The usual story, a young baby back in the provinces, deserted by her husband etc.

Sharky's Friday night had quite a good band playing, but not overly crowded which I found surprising and the place seemed to empty out as the night went on. A few gals hanging around, but generally pickings were quite slim.

Had a meal at the Shanghi, and as usual a bevy of young lasses to keep you company, and most quite nice.

Have dropped into a few spas around town, mostly upmarket, for a massage. Quite good aromatherapy massages, can be very arousing, but unfortunately nothing else on offer. Would love to find a lace where I can actually get a good quality massage, plus a few extras, but haven't had any luck to-date.

Ping223
01-02-12, 14:01
Have dropped into a few spas around town, mostly upmarket, for a massage. Quite good aromatherapy massages, can be very arousing, but unfortunately nothing else on offer. Would love to find a lace where I can actually get a good quality massage, plus a few extras, but haven't had any luck to-date.Long time lurker 1st time poster:

You need to find Panda Massage. That's all I'm giving away.

Happy hunting.