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D Cups
11-30-12, 17:28
Has it occured to you that maybe you are the problem, RR? I have a great time wherever I go.


LOL. The only thing I failed at was getting some sleep or crossing a street without risking my life and jumping over raw sewage in the gutter bro. Oh and finding women who weren't batshit insane. Sorry but after women at several different bars quote you insane prices you just don't feel much like mongering anymore. I'd like to find some more handjob shops just to hold me over until I can get out of there. Any tips on that would be sweet.

Jvdairlie
12-01-12, 01:05
LOL. The only thing I failed at was getting some sleep or crossing a street without risking my life and jumping over raw sewage in the gutter bro. Oh and finding women who weren't batshit insane. Sorry but after women at several different bars quote you insane prices you just don't feel much like mongering anymore. I'd like to find some more handjob shops just to hold me over until I can get out of there. Any tips on that would be sweet.From what I hear, woman who quote "insane prices" generally do so because you have no appeal to them. It's sorta like a "go away" comment.

Rick Rock
12-01-12, 03:07
I often am the problem. But since I've never felt this way about any other place I've been in the world, and there are many, then I tend to think that's probably not the case.

Wendella
12-01-12, 08:49
How about we talk about something of substance for a change here. (this previous subject is flogging a dead horse, same thing over and over again, and not what anyone is coming here to find out, we got the point, so lets move on)

What's the current state of Martini, if I can ask? Current rates? Also what are the going rates at Pontoon and HOD these days?

Ekspat
12-01-12, 09:55
I guess I can understand RR somehow. Earlier I've been to PP several times and had mostly good times, but it was around 2002 till 2005. Then late 2004 or some time in 2005 Air Asia started daily flights directly into Clark (Angeles). As a result, in 2005 was my final visit to PP, since then I have never been back to Cambo.

AC and PP might be a comparison of apples and oranges, so what, then for me the apple please.

But whoever likes PP, why not, enjoy it! Cheers!

Rick Rock
12-01-12, 11:08
I can agree with all that Eks. Thanks. Sorry for any problems, but I just felt ripped off by what I had heard for years. I didn't see any negative reports and that's probably what gave me false hopes. At least someone might take my insane rants into consideration before heading to PP in search of hot chicks for low dollars.

Wordsofwisdom
12-01-12, 14:30
I first visited PP in the 1990's and it was wild then. In recent years this has changed. Athough there are not the sheer numbers of women to be had as in Thailand, The Philippines etc, I still manage to find some real gems. Last year I found a 19 year old bar girl who was over-celebrating in Pontoons. We hit it off and she almost sucked me dry with BJ's galore. She had long braided hair and an incredible body. All for 30 USD for all night. I should have hung onto her (I know. Big head, small head ha ha) but I chased other girls in HOD the following night and found a 21 year old stunner with her 19 year old younger sister. Fresh from home. I took both of them short time for 20 USD each and gave the younger one her first facial, just right after she watched her sister give me a BBBJ. They were great.

The last time I was in PP was 2 months ago and I saw an incredibly sexy girl (20) in Martini's and we hit if off and she came home with me for 25 USD short time. She had to return to the club for her jacket and I thought that since I had paid her she would not return (leaving me free to chase again. Heh heh). She returned for an overnight session for 25 USD and I could hardly walk the next morning. She fucked my brains out and was so so tight too.

So when I read recent tales of woe here I truly wonder which PP I visited. For me these girls are normally great if you are patient and slowly get them to introduce friends etc then it is possible to get some amazing girls.

I will return there in a few months and have already started chatting on DIA, Skype etc. I expect another amazing time. Forget Thailand, it's full of seasoned / hardened girls intent on their I-phone 5 etc. PP hasn't got there just yet.

Uzinuzin
12-01-12, 14:33
For whatever it may be I am heading to Cambodia next week and plan to stay for a week. If I like it I might extend my stay if not, back to Thailand. I have to get out and come back to get my second tourist visa entry activated.

First time there so I make sure I write about my experience as a first timer. It's funny though I never heard of a place where everyone had a positive feedback. People have different experiences depending on so many things. So the phrase YMMV is very true. The most important thing is having a positive attitude, I have travelled many places and hands on heart can say I had good times and bad times in just about every place (even right here, right now in Patong, Phuket! Which is full of super babes!). When I just about gave up on a place, suddenly hit the jackpot with a gem, so you never know.

GLA.

Member #4698
12-01-12, 15:09
When I just about gave up on a place, suddenly hit the jackpot with a gem, so you never know.A great girl can make all the difference in the world. I still remember the hot little spinner I pulled out of Rose Bar in 2009. She was one of my ALL TIME BEST! Try the 104 ST. Bars, HOD, Cyrcee. 136 ST bars, and the upscale Darling Darling nightclub in the Nagaworld. If you have the time or inclination to play the long game, check out the Shanghai bar girls. Phnom Penh is still pretty good. Let's see. I was last there in 2011. Prices have gone up since then, but even then some board members were complaining about the price increases; $30 for 2 hours with multiple shags was lableled outrageous. I was criticized for acknowledging these increases and paying the going rate back then. I don't know what girls are asking now, is it up to $40-$50? So what! Of course, I wouldn't pay that for a fugly, but for a sexy Khmer girl with a good personality; I don't see the point of bitchin' about it. Prices have gone up everywhere in Asia including AC, Pattaya, and BKK. It is the trend in Asia and nothing short of a worldwide economic depression is going to change that. My best advice is: don't sweat the small penny anti stuff. Treat the girls good and you will reap the rewards, wherever you go. Unfortunately, I won't be returning to Phnom in 2013. I have other plans, but there is a good chance I will return in 2014. Why not? It may not be my favorite place in Asia, but I do like the town. It has great food, it is pleasant to walk around in (or hire a driver), it has some nice temples, and best of all there are some very sweet girls here.

Member #4698
12-01-12, 16:40
I first visited PP in the 1990's and it was wild then. In recent years this has changed.... [but] when I read recent tales of woe here I truly wonder which PP I visited. For me these girls are normally great if you are patient and slowly get them to introduce friends etc then it is possible to get some amazing girls.

I will return there in a few months and have already started chatting on DIA, Skype etc. I expect another amazing time. Forget Thailand, it's full of seasoned / hardened girls intent on their I-phone 5 etc. PP hasn't got there just yet.

Words of Wisdom, Wordsofwisdom. Welcome to the forum. I look forward to your next field report. I would only add that plenty of great girls can still be had in LOS. I find them all the time, but yeah they all want their own I-phone 5.

Member #4698
12-01-12, 17:38
Speaking of working girls with their I Phones, I remember a conversation I had a year or so ago with Wendella. We disagreed with the appropriateness of posting pictures of working girls on the ISG and other sights. I believed and still do, that is ok to post a working girl's picture without masking her face as long as the girl has not asked me not post her pictures. But I admit there is a grey area here because I also will not post pictures of girls that are regulars of mine and that I plan to see again and I will not post pictures of a girl and give her bar address. I will recommend a bar I like, but not specific girls in that bar. I don't feel right about sending a lot of guys I can't vouch for straight to girl that I like. Go there find your own.

Now back to the issue of posting pictures: during our discussions, Wendella asked me if I would like it if the tables were turned and a girl posted my picture on the internet. Well, I don't think my picture has ever been posted, but a growing trend is the number girls that like to take pictures with their I Phone Samsungs. I was with one of my regular BKK Go Go friends in October. We were lying in bed; she receives a call from one of her friends. She turns the camera on and answers the call. After a while she hands the phone to me and I am cam talking to her friend who is another Go Go girl. After our little conversation is over and I say goodbye, I give the phone back to my sweetie and she stretches the phone out at arm's length and snaps a couple of close up pictures of us. I have a stupid grin on my face and the lens slightly fisheye distorts our faces which take up the entire frame of the shot. It is not the most flattering picture I have ever had taken, but what the hell. I have shot hundreds of shots of her in all kinds of positions over the last few years. Anyway, she likes our photo together so just I smile. I am sure she is going to show it to all her friends. It ain't no big deal.

Someday I predict working girls will have their own sex internet forum where they can discuss prices and customers. I can see it now LOL; working girls rating customers and posting their pictures. This guy was dirty and had bad breath. Next time I see him I will tell him I am on mens. This guy made me cum 2 times. I can't wait till he comes back to my bar. I can remember when there were no cell phones. You left your office or home and you were out, period. Then the cell phones came along and people started using them. I remember how unusual it was to see someone on his / her cell walking down the street. It is sort of like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers (original 1956 version) with Kevin McCarthy. Look out guys. The working girls ISG forum is coming.

Simian
12-02-12, 05:56
I will be in PP in a few weeks and am looking for a better quality hotel in the riverside area that is also GF.

In the old days I used to stay at some of the really rough places where it helped if you had a screwdriver in your backpack to fix the wiring and your own stopper for the sink. Now that I am slightly better off, I like to stay at a more fit for humans place. Tried California 2 before but new location can be noisy, walk of shame through the bar that has been already mentioned in the forum and rooms with no window etc. Bourganville does not allow company. Used to stay at the Dolphin (can't remember what it is called in Khmer) but that went downhill.

Took a look around both this forum and at Canby Publications. Is Lux still GF? WHat about Golden House on the corner of street 136 and 5? When that was being built, it was supposed to be an apartment building. Are there any apartments for short rent (a few days) in the area or between River and Circee that are GF?

Knight 1001
12-02-12, 08:08
I will be in PP in a few weeks and am looking for a better quality hotel in the riverside area that is also GF.

In the old days I used to stay at some of the really rough places where it helped if you had a screwdriver in your backpack to fix the wiring and your own stopper for the sink. Now that I am slightly better off, I like to stay at a more fit for humans place. Tried California 2 before but new location can be noisy, walk of shame through the bar that has been already mentioned in the forum and rooms with no window etc. Bourganville does not allow company. Used to stay at the Dolphin (can't remember what it is called in Khmer) but that went downhill.

Took a look around both this forum and at Canby Publications. Is Lux still GF? WHat about Golden House on the corner of street 136 and 5? When that was being built, it was supposed to be an apartment building. Are there any apartments for short rent (a few days) in the area or between River and Circee that are GF?I am in PP now and did a lot of research before I came back, trying to find a good place by the riverfront, and also after I arrived. End result was, the best place and value for money I found was the Blue Tongue cafe hotel, next to Walkabout on street 174, just off street 51. The rooms are great, and very importantly very quiet for a good sleep. Last and not least, you can negociate prices down rignt now. 25 USD instead of 30 and 33 instead of 42, depending on your requirements. Beats any riverfront place in my opinion.

Cheers

Ossie
12-02-12, 11:29
I am in PP now and did a lot of research before I came back, trying to find a good place by the riverfront, and also after I arrived. End result was, the best place and value for money I found was the Blue Tongue cafe hotel, next to Walkabout on street 174, just off street 51. The rooms are great, and very importantly very quiet for a good sleep. Last and not least, you can negociate prices down rignt now. 25 USD instead of 30 and 33 instead of 42, depending on your requirements. Beats any riverfront place in my opinion.

CheersHave you tried the pickel parret, do you know what its like as I'm about to book 5 nights there in April 13.

Knight 1001
12-02-12, 20:00
Have you tried the pickel parret, do you know what its like as I'm about to book 5 nights there in April 13.No, sorry, I don't even know that is. But until April, you have plenty of time to find out from the forum here.

Titanio
12-02-12, 23:34
Have you tried the pickel parret, do you know what its like as I'm about to book 5 nights there in April 13.Pickled Parrot Bar / Restaurant is great. Nice people, lots of expats, great food reasonable priced. But the guesthouse is a different story. Was Ok in 2006 but after the renovation of the rooms they forgot to replace the aircons. Very noisy and hardly working. So that is a no no for me to stay overnight at that place. Sad, as the location is great.

Riverstar
12-03-12, 09:25
I will be in PP in a few weeks and am looking for a better quality hotel in the riverside area that is also GF.

In the old days I used to stay at some of the really rough places where it helped if you had a screwdriver in your backpack to fix the wiring and your own stopper for the sink. Now that I am slightly better off, I like to stay at a more fit for humans place. Tried California 2 before but new location can be noisy, walk of shame through the bar that has been already mentioned in the forum and rooms with no window etc. Bourganville does not allow company. Used to stay at the Dolphin (can't remember what it is called in Khmer) but that went downhill.

Took a look around both this forum and at Canby Publications. Is Lux still GF? WHat about Golden House on the corner of street 136 and 5? When that was being built, it was supposed to be an apartment building. Are there any apartments for short rent (a few days) in the area or between River and Circee that are GF?I don't know where you got the idea that he Golden House was originally planned as an apartment building it was planned as a hotel with the top three floors containing office accommodation for KMF International and a private apartment.

Titanio
12-03-12, 23:20
I will be in PP in a few weeks and am looking for a better quality hotel in the riverside area that is also GF.

In the old days I used to stay at some of the really rough places where it helped if you had a screwdriver in your backpack to fix the wiring and your own stopper for the sink. Now that I am slightly better off, I like to stay at a more fit for humans place. Tried California 2 before but new location can be noisy, walk of shame through the bar that has been already mentioned in the forum and rooms with no window etc. Bourganville does not allow company. Used to stay at the Dolphin (can't remember what it is called in Khmer) but that went downhill.

Took a look around both this forum and at Canby Publications. Is Lux still GF? WHat about Golden House on the corner of street 136 and 5? When that was being built, it was supposed to be an apartment building. Are there any apartments for short rent (a few days) in the area or between River and Circee that are GF?Have you seen the size of the rooms in Golden House? 14 M2. That looks very crampy if they also fitted a bathroom in there! I once was on the edge of booking as it looked all very good, but when I saw the room size. Although I only need a room for sleeping and pleasures, I need some space.

HoyArroi
12-04-12, 03:57
Regarding hotel recommendations. I have not had the chance to stay yet, but I have a friend who highly recommends The Paragon, near the River Walk. He said its within walking distance of Sharkey's Bar. Heresay of course, but I will give it a try in February.

Matt Navan Man
12-04-12, 05:32
Have you tried the pickel parret, do you know what its like as I'm about to book 5 nights there in April 13.Pickled Parrot works fine for me, particularly their top room which is nice for the price of it. Location is perfect and the Aussie bar downstairs is chilled with great staff. Street 104 bars outside your door, Green Vespa for great food around the corner and the riverside a two minute walk.

Asianpussylover
12-06-12, 17:43
Is it really back or is someone playing head games? Sorry, no pun intended!!

AussieGuy100
12-07-12, 00:15
Is it really back or is someone playing head games? Sorry, no pun intended!!For the last time, no, it is not back. Closed. Finished. Kaput.

I'm sure there may be a few places similar in function aimed at the locals, somewhere in PP, but nothing catering to foreigners.

GreenBud
12-07-12, 10:36
Regarding hotel recommendations. I have not had the chance to stay yet, but I have a friend who highly recommends The Paragon, near the River Walk. He said its within walking distance of Sharkey's Bar. Heresay of course, but I will give it a try in February."highly" is a strong adjective. But the Paragaon Hotel is OK. Good location; it's on the riverwalk; OK prices; somewhat old.

Sharkeys is about a kilometer away. $1.50 fare by tuk-tuk.

GreenBud
12-07-12, 10:45
It seems there's upward pricing pressures.

At Le Crycee, the girls are asking for $25 short time (plus $3 lady drink, $5 barfine and short time hotel fee). Most likely, many girls (except a few) will accept $20, especially if it's late or if you are a regular. Not sure if any will go for $15 now (maybe the few butt ugly ones).

At Martinis, the top ones at the bar during prime time are asking for $30 short time. And they're getting it.

Frankfurter
12-08-12, 03:01
My favored hangout the SAKURA has closed for good. What is your recommendation for a good relaxed mongering hotel with Wifi? Not Flamingos, Paris. Many thanks, I will be there in two weeks.

GreenBud
12-08-12, 05:52
My favored hangout the SAKURA has closed for good. What is your recommendation for a good relaxed mongering hotel with Wifi? Not Flamingos, Paris. Many thanks, I will be there in two weeks.Golden House International Hotel on Street 136. The rooms might be small depending on your point of view. But it has a decent bed, wifi, frig, and flatscreen TV. Since it's new, the cable channels are not fuzzy (with older hotels, their connections are bad).

I like the inside rooms without windows because it's quiet. The cheapest and smallest rooms are the rooms that face the back with a small window. Many of the rooms facing the street will have twins.

Warning: last month, there was construction next door on the bottom. The lower inside rooms were very noisy from the construction starting at 8 AM. Need to ask if the construction is still on going, or get a room on the other side (which can be noisy from the street), or get a room in the back high up. Doesn't matter if you wake up before 8 AM.

Note that the rates you get via their website is horrible. Better to email them or walk up and ask for a discount. But if you go during high season, there's a good chance that it will be full.

The Circuit hotel (near Heart) seems to be good, but I never stayed there.

Rick Rock
12-10-12, 06:46
So, yeah, headed back to PP for work! I'm so excited I had to take some downers to keep the massive smile off of my face. After RTFF still not sure the best place for service (not looks). Where can a guy get a serious rim job on the cheap? Not worried about looks at all. Better chance at Walkabout or Cyrcee? Or somewhere else?

Uzinuzin
12-10-12, 13:35
Just as a quick feedback, I have been here now for a couple of days, I must say this is a true third world country, a step down from LOS for sure. But I like the difference, it means everything is cheaper and more laid back), girls come in all shades and sizes, from what I have come across so far, they are more approachable and friendlier than their Thai sisters (ok, YMMV on this, but I'm no blonde 20 year old surfer boy from Aus with blue eyes. TGs favourites in Phuket.!).

But for sure there are less stunners here, well it's early days, also less sophisticated, and they don't speak much English (I wish I could speak khmer as much as Thai). Also I noticed there are a lot of local boys in the discos and even in Naga casino. Although the casino was full of Asian gamblers playing $20 minimum stake Black Jack! (too pricey for me!). The casino was full of FL, one tall one I fancied quoted $100 and even couldn't speak English (her friend helped) , she did not budge at all when I asked for a discount. (Most of them go to Darling club in the casino with $7 a beer, not for me!).

Went to a bar in 136 (I think called Lemon or something) , bought a couple of $3 drinks for a cutie, she quoted $50 and then $40 for an hour and would not come down (also $7 barfine). With almost zero English these seems to be new comers but demand premium prices! ? From what I read this is a bit higher than it should be)

Anyway, went to Pytoon, and Heart of Darkness, many girls there, I took one each night for $35 and $45 all night and was happy with them. Also many girls on the river-front just sitting or walking, I was offered $20 for an hour by a cute one, and also got some numbers, again very little English. Went to massage $8 / hr for Thai body, pricey but good, zero hanky panky, I think I need to go to the special places for that. I have a few notes on that to follow.

So far so good, I should just learn some khmer or get a few phrases written down, can not communicate with the ones I like (I. E. No long timer or very hard core).

GreenBud
12-10-12, 14:05
Where can a guy get a serious rim job on the cheap? Not worried about looks at all. Better chance at Walkabout or Cyrcee? Or somewhere else?You can get it anywhere if you keep asking.

Higher percentage will do it at Le Crycee. More of a sure thing. Not sure about "on the cheap". It will be $20 or $25 for short time, plus $5 barfine and $3 ladydrink.

If you want it for "cheap", keep asking at Walkabout and negotiate for a low price.

AussieGuy100
12-10-12, 18:16
So far so good, I should just learn some khmer or get a few phrases written down, can not communicate with the ones I like (I. E. No long timer or very hard core).Just look at my post no #4260 on this thread for some useful phrases!

Glad you like it here.

Yes the prices you're getting quoted do seem high. Try telling the girls you work here and have been here for a few months. They may well lower their opening asking price then.

Or try not asking them the price, just tell them: "one hour $25" or "all night $30". They will then be much less likely to demand premium prices.

The bars on Streets 118 and 130 plus any on side streets off these main bar streets tend to be a bit cheaper.

LeknomForMe
12-11-12, 07:10
Send me a PM if / when you arrive in PP and want to go out and hopefully have a better experience than you've had so far![/QUOTE]Hey AussieGuy100,

I would also like to tip a few with you and hopefully benefit from your vast knowledge of the whereabouts of quality tang in PP. Perhaps if Rick Rock is still there in late February he can join us. First 2 rounds are on me.

LeknomForMe

Ossie
12-11-12, 08:55
Just like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and happy new year, remember you never see santa without a hat on, so always remember to wear yours. That way none of santas little elfs will give you an unwanted Christmas present.

Wendella
12-11-12, 09:40
A few questions:

1. Is it true that Sophie's is back?

2. Just kidding.

3. Uzinuzin mentioned seeing girls at the river front. Over the years I've noticed many guys here mention that as a place they find girls, but I have to say, whenever I'm there I don't spot what look like available working girls there. Now of course the Mekong is a long river, so maybe we can narrow it down a bit. For example, are these girls on the river side of Sisowath Quay or are they on the side that has the restaurants? And do they congregate in one specific area (say, at a certain cross street) or can they be anywhere along that stretch? Me, I don't have time to spend walking up and down the river front in the hope of finally spotting A girl, so if there's a particular spot, or at least a most likely stretch of it, that would help. My hopes are not high on this one though.

4. What is a good time to arrive at the Naga casino to see it at its best (in terms of available girls that is)

AussieGuy100
12-11-12, 10:40
3. Uzinuzin mentioned seeing girls at the river front. Over the years I've noticed many guys here mention that as a place they find girls, but I have to say, whenever I'm there I don't spot what look like available working girls there. Now of course the Mekong is a long river, so maybe we can narrow it down a bit. For example, are these girls on the river side of Sisowath Quay or are they on the side that has the restaurants? And do they congregate in one specific area (say, at a certain cross street) or can they be anywhere along that stretch? Me, I don't have time to spend walking up and down the river front in the hope of finally spotting A girl, so if there's a particular spot, or at least a most likely stretch of it, that would help. My hopes are not high on thisTry opposite Psar Kandal, between streets 172 and 148, and also between streets 110 and 136. The girls are often sitting on the concrete low wall right next to the river, or on the benches dotted along the river. Or strolling along the promenade. I've been along there between about 6. 30-8. 30pm and always seen a fair number of girls there. They may also be there much later, but I don't know. They aren't on the side of the restaurants. The restaurant side is where you meet the super-cute but often expensive waitresses!

Often they don't look like working girls, with no bling or short dresses, just like normal girls. The tell tale signs are cheap clothes and if their eye contact lingers or they smile at you. They can be quite cheap. I got a nice slim one for $15 short time, including blow job, a couple of days ago.

And even if they are 'good' girls, if you ask them out to eat and meet them a couple of times they may go with you. I had one like that, but then she asked $100 for short time! She was stunning, but that was too much for me.

Uzinuzin
12-11-12, 18:52
Went to Air Force Bar (104) last night, it was full! A couple of guys came in but couldn't get a nice place to sit and left, they must be doing good business. Many girls there (one of them told me they have 45 on their book!) , I counted about 20+ last night. There were a few super cute ones but they were playing princesses, I asked one of the older ones and she confirmed they won't go with customers just there to entertain and drain you of your $$ with lady drinks!

I then went to Rose Bar, they have a pool table at the end which I liked and played a few games. One of the girls quoted me $40 for 2 hours with 10$ barfine, this obviously is not very high with Thai standards but in PP I think I forget about bars and stick with FL. (Also the $3 lady drinks add up quickly!)

Went to Walkabout for a few, one young girl with a nice smile came talk to me, after a while just to get a feel for the prices I asked her how much, she apologetically (and giggling) said $100, I laughed a bit and she did too, but didn't bother with haggling, she obviously was trying it on with a new comer. 5 minutes later another nice slim one said she will go with me for $30 (not sure for how long it was though).

I went to Pontoon then (sorry for mis-spelling it in the last post) , and after to another bar nearby, by this stage I was pretty drunk, but took a nice cutie from there, left in the morning with $32, I felt she was expecting more, but at 5am and my drunk state, I think it was enough!

Called a girl this evening that I had the number from Pontoon, came for $30 for an hour, pretty girl but perhaps this was my first (and hope the last) star-fish here in PP, pretty disappointing, but you should expect a few like that.

Staying in tonight to recover but might check out Martini tomorrow.

(P4P girls are on the river-side of the road, after the second look they say hello if they are in the game, a bit of walking might do you good, don't be afraid. ! .?)

(I was at Naga casino around 11:30 and it was buzzing, Darling was filling up around 12:30am, it was Sunday though. Just make sure the girls are not already hooked up with someone, I noticed some of them just hang around the gamblers and know them as their regulars I guess, but they are still available, again they will let you know quickly if they are up for it.)

Mackin
12-11-12, 19:40
I will be samplying PP for the first time in January. I do appreciate all the info. Thanks to AussieGuy100 for the language help. Will provide any usefull information when I am finished visiting.

Uzinuzin
12-16-12, 15:01
I went to the Candy Bar the other day (despite some so so reports) , it is near my place so it was a last call. A nice girl latched on to me and after a drink she agreed $25 for a quicky (she said she can't go all night this time but another time, pretty face) + $10 barfine. Anyway, when the bill came it was a bit confusing, they said they don't have the concept of barfine so they built it into the bill with lady drinks! . ? So I had a look and the total (drinks and barfine) was $15 which was lower than I expected, so I paid. But the girl got her bag right away and beckoned me to go, I was a bit tipsy and forgot my change from $20! Damn! Anyway, she was ok but nothing special. In case you go there check the bill carefully and take this into account. Also she said lady drink is $3, on the bill was $3. 75.

Went to Martini Pub a few days ago around 12:30 and it was dead so I went again last night around 10:30, a few more people but a strange atmosphere, nobody talked to each other! Everyone walking around looking, winking and so on, a bit like playing chess. , building up to a checkmate, LOL! Their disco is basically empty, guys don't like to dance there (mainly older crowd) and girls can't be bothered I guess. I played some pool and took a cute 20 yr Viet girl, she said $30 but I said that is all night, then she goes 50! , ? I wasn't in the mood for haggling so I just said 40 and let's go. I'm sure the original 30 was LT. Anyway, she could not speak a word of English and only some Khmer, my Khmer is only a few words and the numbers, so we just used body language! , ? I thought she was new and it should be fun, but in the room it was very mechanical and in the morning she woke me up at 6:30 for a quicky and out of the door quicker than I could say good bye in Khmer, BTW that takes a while in my basic lingo, LOL!

I noticed there are lot of Cambo guys chasing tails in this country, many of them are in the clubs and discos, even in Martini, I first thought they were Japs or Korean or Chinese, but I heard they speak fluent Khmer with the girls and hit the same FL (couple of them hit on the same girls I did in HOD, while I was talking to one they were having a go at the other! Though she didn't give them much attention). This is not usual in LOS, you won't see Thai guys pooling FL from farang hang-outs (they have their own places). So a bit strange, I guess they get a special rates or do Cambo guys so well off, paying same prices, ! , ? (This is on top of the boyfriends and pimps who hang out, I see girls know those guys and chat and laugh with them.). Generally too many for my liking.

Also I feel there is a scam going on in the place I stay (rather not mention the name) , but whenever I bring a girl to my room I ask them before in the bar or club if they have I-D card to give to the hotel, they understand it well and confirm that they have it on them. Even in tuk tuk. Then at the reception they say they don't have it. ! , ? . ! I don't get it, the reception waves them in, but last couple of nights the security guy jumps in and say we need I-D card, again the reception wave them in. Last night the security guy finally came out with it and said, you should pay $5 when the girl has no I-D. My penny just dropped that this might be a scam, girls are probably in on it too, or just told to keep their I'd to see if I pay up. So far I haven't paid but wonder what the hell is going on. It's either that or I ask the reception and he said they copy the I-D card and may be the girls prefer not to get their I-D copied. !

One more thing, I was approached by two Philippinas on the river front, one not bad looking, after 5 minutes they said they want to invite me to their Cambodian family house so I can see what it's like. I quickly remembered this scam, so said goodbye and particularly mentioned I know all about that, they were a bit disappointed to say the least, . ? It's a well known scam, stay well away and google it if you don't know what it is.

Went to night bazzar tonight, loads of really cute girls, but no one smiled enough for a chat, I think they mostly don't speak English. I have talked to some uni student on the river front (who can speak English) but they usually bail after a 5 minutes. Cambo girls definitely have better (more) ass and tits than the Thai girls, with similar cute faces, I like them and already plan to extend my already extended stay!

Mackin
12-16-12, 19:43
Thanks for the up date. Keep the info coming. Was not aware of the scam. I wouldn't go to someones house anyway but still good to know.

Shadow6491
12-18-12, 04:12
Yes Candy Bar has had scams for a long time very well known in the expat crowd. Long before they moved location.

And just for your information I am still able to get FL for $15-$10 St and from Hostess bars still for $15-$20 st plus $5.$10 barfine. Ok I am a regular but this gives you an idea on what the girls will accept and still be happy with and give good service for. Just because I am paying less for doesn't mean less service in fact I bet I get good service so that I will be a repeat customer.

Can't speak for long time as I very rarely go LT

FreebieFan
12-18-12, 10:12
Would appreciate some advise here. Will be rewarding myself with a BKK and PP trip over Chinese new year.

Have 4 days in PP. I'm a normal guy who likes massage, trying to pick up girls riverside, etcetc. Done lots of reading here and have my "lists"

Choice of places to stay would be Cambodiana, The Quay Boutique, Imperial Villa or Lux Riverside. Theres no money issues whichever is selected.

Any thoughts or recommendation from mongers using those or expats familiar with all would be welcomed. Thanks

Shadow6491
12-19-12, 01:18
Lux Riverside would be my choice due to its location and the rooms are really apartments. No problems with bring girls back. Very expensive though. Cambodiana is way way out of the way and is showing its age a little nice pool and facilities bringing girls back could be a problem here.

FreebieFan
12-19-12, 09:45
Lux Riverside would be my choice due to its location and the rooms are really apartments. No problems with bring girls back. Very expensive though. Cambodiana is way way out of the way and is showing its age a little nice pool and facilities bringing girls back could be a problem here.Hi thanks for your advise.

What would you select as a Plan Bee alternative.

Lux Riverside isn't on any of the normal booking engines ie agoda / expedia / rooms. Com. And the online form I submitted kind of vanished.

Accounting
12-22-12, 08:15
I arrived from Singapore by air late yesterday afternoon. Visa and Customs were okay for me but the couple next to me were ripped off with US$5 each fee for no passport sized photos for their visas. There was no receipt, no photos taken and the staff / boss's slush fund was US$10 better off. They were also savaged on the exchange rate by the official but were not in a position to argue as getting the visas was the needed outcome.

Outside of the airport heading towards the main road I took a tuktuk at US$7 which is the regulated price for a trip to city centre. Good driver and chaotic traffic.

I am staying at the Manor House which is a lovely homely 12 room private hotel in a quiet area near the Independence Monument (#21, St 262). Manager Dave (from Adelaide originally) and his team run a good, clean, effective operation and I recommend it to you. It is gay / straight friendly and no problem in the girl friendly department.

Simian
12-22-12, 16:38
Went to Phnom Penh after a break of a few years and what a difference a few years has made to the city. All the roads are paved, many more bars, girls and hotels. But this may have come at a cost.

First, the girls are very clever now, especially in the bars where they are attached to the bar. They don't do long time as it gets in the way of doing business. Even if a bar girl does not get another client when she returns to her bar, she can always get another few lady drinks. You can find yourself buying a lady one or more drinks only to find out that she does not go with guys to the room.

For instance, hit Airforce One one night. Big crowd in. One girl came over. She appeared nice and so I got her a lady drink. But no she was not available for some fun later and so I stopped another. Ladydrink and so on and sorry she was not available either. Getting a bit tired of this I asked for someone who would go to my hotel later. One was produced. Not as good looking but still pretty. But only ST available. Got to the room. Got down to business during which I find out that she was on her period. Blood everywhere. She denied it, saying that her period ended a few days before and maybe it is because she had not been with a guy for a while. Yeah sure. I gave her $10 and pushed her out the door.

Bar girls have worked out that getting lady drinks can be just as lucrative as providing sex. And they use younger better looking girls as teasers who are just there for the lady drinks only. And don't be fooled that taking a girl from a bar is insurance against being ripped off. Some bars actually rip you off even before you exit the bar. And if your mobile phone goes missing from your room, don't expect the Mamasan to do anything about it later. This happened to a guy while I was there.

Two other alternatives are onsite places and FLs. I took 2 FLs from Walkabout. Both were adequate but one did not do oral. But the choice is not great at Walkabout with many washed out hag like ladies around. The music in Heart was just too loud and was hurting my ears and I had to leave before I could check out the ladies there. Checked around a few of the bars nearby but nothing took my eye. Tried the riverside around 9pm one night but none doable. And some ladyboys there too. Did not have time to check Sharkeys or Martinis. Again, my impression was that the FLs want short time only. The days of the LT GFE possibly extending for a few days with a hot Khmer gal looking after your every need are really over in Phnom Penh.

On-site places. Unfortunately many of these places are closed, including all the Viet massage / brothel places that were dodgy anyway. I did not want to try the few fishbowl massage places. One place that has not changed much is Cirque. Picked a Khmer one night and it was a very nice experience even if you have to cross the road to get to the room.

After some of my disappointments with the bars near the riverside area, I went to a place in the same area I knew used to allow on-site activity. I was delighted to find out that they still do but I am guessing that they do not want it publicized. Correct me if I am wrong, but allowing on site sex usually gets a bar shut down pretty fast. If anyone wants to know where it is, they can PM me.

I went with 3 girls there on different nights. First was more than adequate, skinny girl who gave a great BJ. The second was a girl with the largest tits I have ever seen on an Asian girl. She was great fun and was horny. She is quite dark and it was like doing an african chick. The third I took back to my hotel and she was a happy hooker. The onsite room is a bit rough. She was horny and probably would have liked session 2 if only I was up to it. To all I gave $20 plus some tip money. You had to buy a girl a drink in the bar first. House rules. And pay a bar fine ($5 I think). There was a charge for the room too, if memory serves me right but it is $5 I think. There was only one girl who did not go with guys but the other girls told me that she was only there to have lady drinks. At least they were upfront about it.

What I liked about the place was that the girls are honest hookers and not playing games. They are real sluts, if you like that sort of thing. They are a bit short of customers and I was very welcome there. None of the girls were pissed off if I went with someone else the next night. It would be great for anyone who likes ST onsite. They claim they are open 24 hours but I am guessing that if you went there early morning you just might find a bunch of half asleep girls. But it might be a good place to check out for daytime action.

Changing the subject slightly, years ago I used to frequent Howie's bar. It was a drinkers bar near Heart but with no girls (although I pulled a girl from there who was a FL friend of one of the then barmaids about 5 years ago) but the bar staff back then were really nice and the customers were a little more interesting than elsewhere. This time I was surprised to see that it had mostly young customers who seemed to be backpackers, including some half-dressed Western girls. A barmaid with a winning smile engaged me in conversation, got me my favorite drink and asked me if I wanted to play a game. After a couple of rounds of Connect 4, she suggested a bet of a drink. I sniffed a scam but went along with it just to see what happened next. Big surprise when I won the first game, not so big surprise that she won the second game (immediately after my won drink was served). We drew a game and she won the next two games. I am not bad at Connect 4 having polished my skills in Thailand some years back but she was a real pro. I was pushed to play more but declined. She pushed a bit more and I said no again. Immediately all contact with bar staff stopped. I might as well have become invisible. The bill was $13. I only had 2 beers. Her drinks were $3 each.

In a way, this is how many of the tourist bars have changed. The strategy is to take your money now and forget about building up brand loyalty for the future.

Mr Enternational
12-22-12, 17:36
I don't know if you are still around but if so grab some earplugs and go back to HOD. To me that disco had the best selection at rock bottom prices. The most I gave there was $28 LT. Martini's was right too but the girls there wanted $40 LT. All those other places suck. Playing lady drink games and shit. I wish I would buy a broad a drink and she won't leave with me. Well I don't buy lady drinks anyway so I guess I will never have to worry about that one.

Scorchin1470
12-22-12, 17:52
What do you expect when any information on getting a VOA says passport photos are required. Only the stupid travel without a few photosfor just such an occasion. Count themselves lucky that their stupidity only cost them $10.

Rick Rock
12-22-12, 18:37
There is an official charge for them to scan the photo in your passport if you don't bring your own photos. But the charge is $2, not $5. Either bring $2 with you or just show a few 50's and say that's all you have and they'll scan it for free.


Outside of the airport heading towards the main road I took a tuktuk at US$7 which is the regulated price for a trip to city centre. Good driver and chaotic traffic.Could've taken a cab with air conditioning for $3 more. Better get used to spending more now that you're in PP. No saving unless you want to shop at Walkabout!

Titanio
12-23-12, 00:42
There is an official charge for them to scan the photo in your passport if you don't bring your own photos. But the charge is $2, not $5. Either bring $2 with you or just show a few 50's and say that's all you have and they'll scan it for free.

Could've taken a cab with air conditioning for $3 more. Better get used to spending more now that you're in PP. No saving unless you want to shop at Walkabout!Or walk over the parking lot to the exit and get your tuk tuk for 4 dollars. And more savings plus a more guarantee a girl stay overnight when she promised LT? Promise her to go for shopping the other day and buy her a nice shirt or dress. That will not break the bank for less than 10 dollars at the market. And when she choose a too expensive dress, just say you don't like and walk on to the next shop.

Mackin
12-23-12, 19:28
So the guy says the guy next to him paid $10. 00 for the 2 people. [I] Don't know where he came from but here where I am it is $15. 00 for 2 passport photos to be taken. So if 2 people it would be $30. 00 here. Ten (10) is not bad but I understand you can get a picture for 1. 00 if you don't have them. A buddy who is in and out of Cambodia all the time tells me this is what it costs. I will find out soon but I do believe he is correct. I am in the USA

Mr Enternational
12-23-12, 23:21
So the guy says the guy next to him paid $10. 00 for the 2 people. [I] Don't know where he came from but here where I am it is $15. 00 for 2 passport photos to be taken. So if 2 people it would be $30. 00 here. Ten (10) is not bad but I understand you can get a picture for 1. 00 if you don't have them. A buddy who is in and out of Cambodia all the time tells me this is what it costs. I will find out soon but I do believe he is correct. I am in the USAAre you talking about $15 at the post office in the USA? If I remember it is $10 or $15 for 2. What a rip off. They make them at drug store photo labs a bit cheaper. It is also pretty easy to make them on the computer yourself. I usually get mine made at a photo shop in Pattaya for the cheap. I don't just get what I need but a bunch of extras and keep them in the same pouch with my passport so I will have them when needed.

Dragon1423
12-24-12, 00:00
I don't know if you are still around but if so grab some earplugs and go back to HOD. To me that disco had the best selection at rock bottom prices. The most I gave there was $28 LT. Martini's was right too but the girls there wanted $40 LT. All those other places suck. Playing lady drink games and shit. I wish I would buy a broad a drink and she won't leave with me. Well I don't buy lady drinks anyway so I guess I will never have to worry about that one.Well it has been awhile since I have been to Cambodia, if they have moved to this "lady drink" phase, I won't be back. Last time there 2009, I did not see this lady drink thing going on at all. This "lady drink crap" is what ruined Korea. I was there in the 70s. 80s. 90s and watched the change. Don't play the game. This is the bars & girls getting greedy and not providing a service. It is just a rip off. Of course there will be plenty of dummies playing this game. There should be some freelancers around, if a girl in a bar asks you for a lady drink, leave. If most of the bars are doing this it will not be long until competition is gone and prices are set the same in all bars. This is not letting the market and competition set prices, but a bar owner conspiracy to rip you off. I seen it before and know where it came from, it does not get better. I do not see this in Thailand, Phillipines, Myanmar, Indonesia because there is competition between the bars. Just curious where and when did this start? Any Korean bar owners start up there recently? For those of you that like this game head to Korea, but take plenty of cash.

Mr Enternational
12-24-12, 04:21
Well it has been awhile since I have been to Cambodia, if they have moved to this "lady drink" phase, I won't be back. Last time there 2009, I did not see this lady drink thing going on at all. This "lady drink crap" is what ruined Korea. I was there in the 70s. 80s. 90s and watched the change. Don't play the game. This is the bars & girls getting greedy and not providing a service. It is just a rip off.Damn right. I went into a few bars looking for girls to take out. I didn't want any shit so I cut to the chase. But all they were talking about was drinking. I said shit I can drink in the hotel room. I came looking for a woman to take back with me. Most of them were not up for going, they just wanted you to sit there and pay for drinks for yourself and for them. Like you said, you will look quite the fool buying drinks for all these women and later finding out they will not go with you. That is why my forte is freelance and if I am ever back in PP then Martini and Heart of Darkness are the only spots I will need to hunt.

Uzinuzin
12-24-12, 07:07
I do not see this in Thailand, Phillipines, Myanmar, Indonesia because there is competition between the bars.The Lady Drink business is well and truly established here, a bit late for your advice! Girls will leave you alone if you don't buy any, but then that is not much fun seating on your own drinking and watching all the hot girls. The trick is to get it out of the girl if she barfines or not before buying the lady drink. Best is to ask another older girl, that usually works for me. I usually latch on to the oldest ugliest girl in the bar who (usually) speaks English, then get all the low down on all the girls and prices and so on and and then tell her which one to call over for me?

BTW, how is it that you have not seen this in Thailand? Girls in the bar there have asked for lady drinks as many years that I have travelled to LOS and remember going to the bars there.

Leftfield1965
12-24-12, 07:28
Damn right. I went into a few bars looking for girls to take out. I didn't want any shit so I cut to the chase. But all they were talking about was drinking. I said shit I can drink in the hotel room. I came looking for a woman to take back with me. Most of them were not up for going, they just wanted you to sit there and pay for drinks for yourself and for them. Like you said, you will look quite the fool buying drinks for all these women and later finding out they will not go with you. That is why my forte is freelance and if I am ever back in PP then Martini and Heart of Darkness are the only spots I will need to hunt.Exactly!

Fuck the riverside bars with their overpriced drinks and crappy music.

I too stick to the freelancer places when I'm in town. I quite like HOD too but am less fond of Martinis, it's ok every once in a while.

I'd probably add Pontoon to that list and regardless of what some people here say Walkabout in the afternoon can be worth a visit as there are still diamonds to be found there. Patience is the key though.

Another venue worth checking out if you're into freelancers is Golden Sorya Mall at night. Kick back with a $2 jug of Anchor and watch the madness.

Rick Rock
12-24-12, 08:19
Ladydrinks are a few dollars. No big deal. Buy them one if you're interested in sussing them out. That's how they make their money. Their salary is next to nothing. Ladydrinks are pretty much the standard in SE ASIA. That's never been my problem in Cambodia. It's the crazy ST and LT prices that are asked.

If you want a quick slam and jam hit up a massage parlor, one of the disgusting brothels, or one of what the cracked out freelancers on Riverside or Walkabout.

You'd be forgiven if you mistook Heart of Darkness for a gay bar. I'd say more than half of the customers are local homosexuals out for dancing.

Sorya Mall seems like a great place to meet drug addicts looking for their next fix. They will go with you for $10-$20, but YMMV in the realest sense of the phrase.

Correct me where I'm wrong.

Leftfield1965
12-24-12, 10:56
Ladydrinks are a few dollars. No big deal. Buy them one if you're interested in sussing them out. That's how they make their money. Their salary is next to nothing. Ladydrinks are pretty much the standard in SE ASIA. That's never been my problem in Cambodia. It's the crazy ST and LT prices that are asked.

If you want a quick slam and jam hit up a massage parlor, one of the disgusting brothels, or one of what the cracked out freelancers on Riverside or Walkabout.

You'd be forgiven if you mistook Heart of Darkness for a gay bar. I'd say more than half of the customers are local homosexuals out for dancing.

Sorya Mall seems like a great place to meet drug addicts looking for their next fix. They will go with you for $10-$20, but YMMV in the realest sense of the phrase.

Correct me where I'm wrong.I don't think your post needs correcting.

The whole area of St 51 is crawling with druggies, I'd say 70-80% of the freelancers there are on ice / yama. Some are heavy users (and it shows) and some use because they're awake all night trying to find customers.

The point I'm trying to make is that not all the FL's hustling on the Strip look like they've been on crack for years. There's still plenty of pretty, healthy looking girls out there.

Do I care that some of them smoke the occasional bag of ice? Not in the slightest.

There's a certain madness surrounding the place which I happen to like.

Rick Rock
12-24-12, 13:35
I can understand the attraction if you're into a kind "fear and loathing is las vegas" kind of scene. To each his own.

But if you just want to monger in relative safety with a sane and sober woman, it's probably not a good destination.

FruitNinja
12-24-12, 17:04
I booked 4 nights in PP. Then on to Seim Reip for 2, Pats for 5 and BKK for 5. Aside from mongering I like to do some of the tourist thing. I'm looking at things to do in PP and starting to think I might have been ok with just a couple of days. Thoughts? What else can one do for a few days? Stop in one of the smaller towns on the way to SR? Looks like Kampong Thom is on the way. Anyone been?

Ideas welcome.

S

Mackin
12-24-12, 18:50
I am refering to USA post offices. The price is 15. 00 for 2 photos. I went to a J C Penny store before that and it was 15. 00 also. The girl at penny's thought it might be cheaper at the post office, nope same price. I guess I should have waited till I got to Bangkok and got them there. My computer is old and a mess so not possible to use for picutes. It won't break me so I guess we live and learn.

Mackin
12-24-12, 18:56
The whole area of St 51 is crawling with druggies, I'd say 70-80% of the freelancers there are on ice / yama. Some are heavy users (and it shows) and some use because they're awake all night trying to find customers.

Kinds of reminds me of home. Really it does, not B S ing you.

Scorchin1470
12-24-12, 19:40
I booked 4 nights in PP. Then on to Seim Reip for 2, Pats for 5 and BKK for 5. Aside from mongering I like to do some of the tourist thing. I'm looking at things to do in PP and starting to think I might have been ok with just a couple of days. Thoughts? What else can one do for a few days? Stop in one of the smaller towns on the way to SR? Looks like Kampong Thom is on the way. Anyone been?

Ideas welcome.

SDepends what you want to do in PP. But three days of sightseeing is enough to cover the major tourist bits. Siem Reap conversely needs four nights (so you have three days for the temples). As to Bangkok / Pattaya. Not much other than sex and more sex in Pattaya whilst Bangkok can easily take four / five for days for sightseeing. I'd spend a couple of extra days in N. Cambodia, take the bus to Battambang

And come back next day on a country boat. You will see more of Cambodia that way.

Mr Enternational
12-24-12, 21:01
I booked 4 nights in PP. Then on to Seim Reip for 2, Pats for 5 and BKK for 5. Aside from mongering I like to do some of the tourist thing. I'm looking at things to do in PP and starting to think I might have been ok with just a couple of days. Thoughts? What else can one do for a few days? Stop in one of the smaller towns on the way to SR? Looks like Kampong Thom is on the way. Anyone been?

Ideas welcome.

SYou got it about right Simon. You should have maybe done only 3 days in PP and 3 days in SR. 6 days in Pattaya and 4 days in BKK.

I arrived in PP from Bangkok at about 5pm so I spent the night there and mongered. Got up the next day and took 7am the van to SR. I went and saw Angkor W that same afternoon at about 3pm. They say to go before sundown to get the best pictures. (If you go in the morning the sun will be behind it so it will fuck up your photos.) Two hours walking around there is good. I paid the security guys $1 (think there were 5 guys) each to go all the way to the top. That night I went to check out all the P4P spots and ended up hitting a Viet chick in a fuck house. The next day I went to Bayon. I spent a long time there because there are 3 temples. My driver was going to take me to the third best complex but it started pouring rain so I had him take me back to the hotel.

The next morning I was on the bus back to PP. When I arrived that afternoon I had a driver take me to the genocide museum that used to be a school. That night I had a driver take me to all the bars and clubs that I saw mentioned on the forum. I still ended up getting a girl from Heart of Darkness again. The next morning at 11am the driver took me to the killing field. After that he took me back to the hotel to get my things and then to the airport for my flight back to Bangkok and home to Pattaya.

Simian
12-24-12, 22:40
After some of my disappointments with the bars near the riverside area, I went to a place in the same area I knew used to allow on-site activity. I was delighted to find out that they still do but I am guessing that they do not want it publicized. Correct me if I am wrong, but allowing on site sex usually gets a bar shut down pretty fast. If anyone wants to know where it is, they can PM me.

I went with 3 girls there on different nights. First was more than adequate, skinny girl who gave a great BJ. The second was a girl with the largest tits I have ever seen on an Asian girl. She was great fun and was horny. She is quite dark and it was like doing an african chick. The third I took back to my hotel and she was a happy hooker. The onsite room is a bit rough. She was horny and probably would have liked session 2 if only I was up to it. To all I gave $20 plus some tip money. You had to buy a girl a drink in the bar first. House rules. And pay a bar fine ($5 I think). There was a charge for the room too, if memory serves me right but it is $5 I think. There was only one girl who did not go with guys but the other girls told me that she was only there to have lady drinks. At least they were upfront about it.

What I liked about the place was that the girls are honest hookers and not playing games. They are real sluts, if you like that sort of thing. They are a bit short of customers and I was very welcome there. None of the girls were pissed off if I went with someone else the next night. It would be great for anyone who likes ST onsite. They claim they are open 24 hours but I am guessing that if you went there early morning you just might find a bunch of half asleep girls. But it might be a good place to check out for daytime action.

I had about 10 PMs from senior members concerning the on-site place I mentioned in a previous post. It indicates the level of interest in an on-site venue, expecially one that is open during the daytime. Maybe there is an operator or two out there looking to invest in something.

I have answered all PM inquiries about the except Knight 1001. Buddy, your PM box is full and I can't sent you messages.

Backtobasics
12-25-12, 08:53
I had about 10 PMs from senior members concerning the on-site place I mentioned in a previous post. It indicates the level of interest in an on-site venue, expecially one that is open during the daytime. Maybe there is an operator or two out there looking to invest in something.

I have answered all PM inquiries about the except Knight 1001. Buddy, your PM box is full and I can't sent you messages.Amen to that. By the time the night time scene kicks off, it's about 3 hours passed my bed time! Daytime is my right time.

Accounting
12-26-12, 10:17
I arrived in PP ex Singapore a few days ago and life is going well.

As you leave the PP Airport Customs Hall you are in unrestricted public space and there are many booths or kiosks selling local phone and data plans for the various telecom service providers.

I wanted a phone and data plan for 2-3 weeks with a good data capacity as I would be using the phone as the wifi connection to my tablet computer. I went to a kiosk selling plans on the "qb" network and one of the two guys showed me a couple of plans ($10 x 1 and 1 at $15) each with a one month life and rechargeable.

I took the $15 plan as it had much more data capacity than the $10 plan and the guy proceeded to install and initialise the local SIM card. To make sure I was fully operational, I tested the phone by ringing my daughter in Australia and that worked 100.

Where things did not work out was when we tried the data and internet connection. We did not get a connection when we tried google, yahoo or a specific web address that has lots of traffic, With a perfectly straight and believable face and manner, he said that PP has poor overcrowded internet access and to try again in 15 minutes. I tried another couple of times (unsuccessfully) and considered my options to be either to commit to the qb plan and do as he said OR abort the purchase as it was not able to deliver on the requirements. I was not high energy at the time so I paid the $15 and left. It was only later when I was travelling into PP city centre that I realised that I did not know what my new local phone number was and that I had no paperwork / copy of a contract or invoice. The only paper work was a brochure with some markings he had made on it.

I tried to access the internet many times over the next two days with the same lack of any success. I checked with the guest house where I am staying and they said internet access is never a problem and suggested I get a phone and data plan through MOBITEL. I did that at a major Mobitel branch / outlet. The customer service was excellent, I had a proper contract with SIM serial numbers, relevant local phone number, a phone connection that I tested at the time by ringing Australia and whats more, an internet connection that was fast and accessed there in the branch on the first and two other sample tests. The cream on the cake was that this full and effiecent service and plan cost me $11 compared with the $15 I paid for learning and experience. I am a very happy little peanut!

MORALS OF THE STORY: (!) Do not buy services on the "qb" network if you want a data plan or documentation of your plan / contract. (2) Stay with the major players / service providers and with that I fully recommend "cellcard" plans through Mobitel.

Uzinuzin
12-26-12, 16:12
I fully recommend "cellcard" plans through Mobitel.+1 for cellcard, I have put it in my USB aircard and on to the laptop and it works fine even here in Sihanoukville. There is a kiosk for it at the airport, $1 for the SIM card and then you can top up and send INET1 (daily 200MB) , or INET2 (weekly 600MB) , etc. To 6767 and get your data package, see below (click on Mobile Internet tab). APN is "cellcard";

http://www.cellcard.com.kh/en/service/data_3.5G_internet.php

The connection is far better than my hotel here. Though my hotel in PP had super broadband, almost 8Mbps download AND 8Mbps upload (better than my connection in London!).

AussieGuy100
12-27-12, 08:48
In Phnom Penh and as I expected after two massages I can say that a HJ is pretty well guaranteed. In one case after a 'balls massage' which rivaled the celebrated Rin in Bangkok.

Damn and after 40 minutes of erotic stimulation, I can't find the place again of Sisowath Quay.Sokuns Place, No:131 Sisowath Quay just round the corner from street 110 does reasonable massages followed by a hand job. But they want a $10 tip for the HJ, or $15-20 if they undo their clothes and let you have a grope. Bit expensive for me personally.

Frankfurter
12-27-12, 11:06
Last nice I had probably the strangest, or should I say: worst sex in my life. I went to 'Lemon' on St. 136, since it is close to my hotel. After I had their current beer special (Buy-1-get-1-free) I barfined ($7) a 21 yr. Old, extra slim 40 kg body with a beautiful, kind of Eurasian face. She didn't speak much English, and with the help of her 'sister'/another girl we settled on $30 for three hours. In the room she disappeared to take a shower and came back with her tiny tits exposed but everything below her chest tightly wrapped in the towel. She executed, for Cambo conditions at least, a really good, sometimes even deep, and long BJ, interrupting it only after some ten minutes by pointing at her cheeks. They hurt from long BJ, she said, and wanted me to fuck her. She opened the towel and laid there on her back like a Khmer stone statue, right out of Angkor what. When I reached around her waist and tried to grab her ass the skin felt really very strange, like a heavy burn or otherwise heavy injury. This is not good, I thought, she didn't move an inch and didn't let me see how her rear looks like. OK, it didn't prevent me from fucking her since I was horny from her BJ and needed to get some resolution to all of this. After I came she wrapped the towel around her waist, ran into the bathroom, came back, snuggled really nicely and super-close to me, and. Fell asleep. I had ample opportunity to contemplated what injury / disease she might have on her ass which, after a while started to really freak me out. I woke her up and told her she should leave since I want to go eat. (I had dinner already.) Without a word, and sleepy, she disappeared.

PS: Pretty much all girls in '136', 'Lemon', 'Oasis' are take-out, except for one from the latter which didn't want to go. ST: $30-50, 2-3 hrs.)

Frankfurter
12-27-12, 11:14
The oil massage. 1 hr, is $ 8. Aylin was the girls name, she is very nice and knows how to do stuff with her hands. She asked for $20 for the happy ending and was a little disappointed when I told her it would be $10. But she still performed a great HJ. She was willing to go out after her shift is over at 10 pm. The quote was $50, all night. She was nice and good looking but not good enough for that rate. Declined.

250 St / 63 St, Corner building ground floor.

Uzinuzin
12-27-12, 14:55
Last nice I had probably the strangest, or should I say: worst sex in my life. I went to 'Lemon' on St. 136, since it is close to my hotel. After I had their current beer special (Buy-1-get-1-free) I barfined ($7) a 21 yr. Old, extra slim 40 kg body with a beautiful, kind of Eurasian face. She didn't speak much English, and with the help of her 'sister'/another girl we settled on $30 for three hours. In the room she disappeared to take a shower and came back with her tiny tits exposed but everything below her chest tightly wrapped in the towel. She executed, for Cambo conditions at least, a really good, sometimes even deep, and long BJ, interrupting it only after some ten minutes by pointing at her cheeks. They hurt from long BJ, she said, and wanted me to fuck her. She opened the towel and laid there on her back like a Khmer stone statue, right out of Angkor what. When I reached around her waist and tried to grab her ass the skin felt really very strange, like a heavy burn or otherwise heavy injury. This is not good, I thought, she didn't move an inch and didn't let me see how her rear looks like. OK, it didn't prevent me from fucking her since I was horny from her BJ and needed to get some resolution to all of this. After I came she wrapped the towel around her waist, ran into the bathroom, came back, snuggled really nicely and super-close to me, and. Fell asleep. I had ample opportunity to contemplated what injury / disease she might have on her ass which, after a while started to really freak me out. I woke her up and told her she should leave since I want to go eat. (I had dinner already.) Without a word, and sleepy, she disappeared.

PS: Pretty much all girls in '136', 'Lemon', 'Oasis' are take-out, except for one from the latter which didn't want to go. ST: $30-50, 2-3 hrs.) I went to Lemon a couple of weeks ago and bought a couple of lady drinks for a 21 year old who could not speak any English (she was quite pretty) , but when it came down to barfine she insisted on $40 for short time, would not come down, even I was there for another drink and asked her a few times, you got lucky I guess or she realised nobody will be paying her asking price. (Although with that story I'm glad she didn't, that IS weird!)

Their buy 1 get one free draft beer is a good deal (also most bars want $10 bar fine). They should get busy after your post.

Backtobasics
12-27-12, 19:49
When you get the chance, seek out and watch a movie called 'After Hours'. There's a scene which will make you shudder, as you remember the Lemon gal.


Last nice I had probably the strangest, or should I say: worst sex in my life. I went to 'Lemon' on St. 136, since it is close to my hotel. After I had their current beer special (Buy-1-get-1-free) I barfined ($7) a 21 yr. Old, extra slim 40 kg body with a beautiful, kind of Eurasian face. She didn't speak much English, and with the help of her 'sister'/another girl we settled on $30 for three hours. In the room she disappeared to take a shower and came back with her tiny tits exposed but everything below her chest tightly wrapped in the towel. She executed, for Cambo conditions at least, a really good, sometimes even deep, and long BJ, interrupting it only after some ten minutes by pointing at her cheeks. They hurt from long BJ, she said, and wanted me to fuck her. She opened the towel and laid there on her back like a Khmer stone statue, right out of Angkor what. When I reached around her waist and tried to grab her ass the skin felt really very strange, like a heavy burn or otherwise heavy injury. This is not good, I thought, she didn't move an inch and didn't let me see how her rear looks like. OK, it didn't prevent me from fucking her since I was horny from her BJ and needed to get some resolution to all of this. After I came she wrapped the towel around her waist, ran into the bathroom, came back, snuggled really nicely and super-close to me, and. Fell asleep. I had ample opportunity to contemplated what injury / disease she might have on her ass which, after a while started to really freak me out. I woke her up and told her she should leave since I want to go eat. (I had dinner already.) Without a word, and sleepy, she disappeared.

PS: Pretty much all girls in '136', 'Lemon', 'Oasis' are take-out, except for one from the latter which didn't want to go. ST: $30-50, 2-3 hrs.)

Knight 1001
12-27-12, 21:58
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The Scout
12-28-12, 08:55
Last nice I had probably the strangest, or should I say: worst sex in my life. I went to 'Lemon' on St. 136, since it is close to my hotel. After I had their current beer special (Buy-1-get-1-free) I barfined ($7) a 21 yr. Old, extra slim 40 kg body with a beautiful, kind of Eurasian face. She didn't speak much English, and with the help of her 'sister'/another girl we settled on $30 for three hours. In the room she disappeared to take a shower and came back with her tiny tits exposed but everything below her chest tightly wrapped in the towel. She executed, for Cambo conditions at least, a really good, sometimes even deep, and long BJ, interrupting it only after some ten minutes by pointing at her cheeks. They hurt from long BJ, she said, and wanted me to fuck her. She opened the towel and laid there on her back like a Khmer stone statue, right out of Angkor what. When I reached around her waist and tried to grab her ass the skin felt really very strange, like a heavy burn or otherwise heavy injury. This is not good, I thought, she didn't move an inch and didn't let me see how her rear looks like. OK, it didn't prevent me from fucking her since I was horny from her BJ and needed to get some resolution to all of this. After I came she wrapped the towel around her waist, ran into the bathroom, came back, snuggled really nicely and super-close to me, and. Fell asleep. I had ample opportunity to contemplated what injury / disease she might have on her ass which, after a while started to really freak me out. I woke her up and told her she should leave since I want to go eat. (I had dinner already.) Without a word, and sleepy, she disappeared.

PS: Pretty much all girls in '136', 'Lemon', 'Oasis' are take-out, except for one from the latter which didn't want to go. ST: $30-50, 2-3 hrs.) Do you remember her name?

Frankfurter
12-28-12, 09:44
Sorry, I can't remember her name. The more I think about this episode the more I feel sympathetic for her: Go figure what this means to be in her shoes when you have an injury or disease like that. This is like being a concert violinist who goes on stage fully knowing that he / she cannot play but hopes for the best and does some tap dancing.

AussieGuy100
12-28-12, 11:54
Sorry, I can't remember her name. The more I think about this episode the more I feel sympathetic for her: Go figure what this means to be in her shoes when you have an injury or disease like that. This is like being a concert violinist who goes on stage fully knowing that he / she cannot play but hopes for the best and does some tap dancing.My guess would be burns. A lot of the girls get burns or injuries when they are kids as adult supervision is somewhat lacking. I'm surprised you didn't just gently turn her over and have a look. If it was just burns and you made sympathetic noises, she may have relaxed and warmed up a bit instead of doing the starfish act.

I've come across a variety of burns on legs and arms and quite a few moto injuries as well.

There are also a few deaf-mute girls working in the bars, and one very beautiful deaf-mute freelancer who hangs out at Golden Sorya Mall.

MetaMonger
12-28-12, 19:25
Hello mongers,

I live in Phnom Penh and I've read a dozen pages of this forum.

My impression is you guys are paying a bit too much but on the other side the going rates here have raised a lot in the last two years unlike in the rest of Cambo.

Said that, it has nothing to do with the cost of life here apart for a few things, it's all because of this new wave or rich tourists overpaying like crazy and I've witness mongers paying absolutely overboard for girls worth maybe 10$ a shag.

So, first of all, the bars in the riverside (104/110/118/130/136) :

I had a full time girlfriend working in one hostess so I think to know a bit the score.

Some of them indeed never go out with customers and are happy making some money with ladydrinks.

Consider their salary in a bar is usually 70$/month for 8hrs / day 6days / week, for each ladydrink (3$) they

Get 1. 25$ depending on the bar, an average girl can easily earn a couple ladydrinks per night, the good ones.

Can get up to 10 drinks, the bad ones go home with nothing, but don't worry their business is getting barfined.

(7-10$) or getting crazy tips from drinkers.

You may have wondered for instance how many of these bars can survive with 10 girls inside and maybe half a customer.

Drinking a coke.

Simple, they make a shitload of money with tips, there are crazy guys giving out 10-20$ or more for absolutely no special reason,

There are guys offering 10 or 20 ladydrink in a night (that's already 60$ and still no sex!) , guys asking the phone number of the girls.

And then taking them around the next day in luxurious places, again with crazy tips included and finally the ones who fell in love for

A girl and become their sponsor or buy them the latest iPad or iPhone or take her shopping around (100-200$ if gold is involved).

Now about the boomboom : there are excellent girls in the riverside but it's also one of the most expensive options in town!

I've read some of your message being shocked by girls in bars asking 50$ ST, well that's normal nowadays but it depends on many factors,

Some girls are fine with 20-30$ as anywhere else, but others are very picky and will not shag for less than 40-50$, basically if they

Don't like you they will ask you too much and even then they can be a starfish in bed, not to mention they could refuse BBBJ as well,

After all most of these girls don't start as hookers they just start with ladydrinks and only after some time they eventually switch

To full time or part time hookers because they see how easily the other girls make 100s of bucks, I can't blame them but

That's the way it is and by the way the young girls have it much more easy than the others, I know one cute girl 21 yrs old who does no BBBJ.

And no BB altogether and she asks 60-100$ LT take it or leave it and there's no shortage of customers for her and she has also 3 sponsors.

Conclusion : do whatever you want and have fun!

Just remember that these bars are a big ripoff in one way or another.

I would stick with the bars in 104 especially the Air Force Bar as the girls there have really a good attitude and don't ask crazy prices (20-30$ ST)

And if they like you they're usually happy to go around for dinner, disco, whatever, they're clean and don't do drugs and never make troubles.

At the moment, there's no way to pay less than 20$ ST and actually they usually start asking 30$ anyway.

IF you're a regular and you speak some khmer and they like you then it's a whole different story but don't expect to pay 10$ or to shag for free.

Free sex can be had outside working hours if she's really into you, but 10 or 15$ is next to impossible because it would be a loss of face for her.

Unless she knows you very well, in that case she will tell you to come when there's nobody like in the afternoon or when they're closing at 3AM.

Next chapter : freelancers.

MetaMonger
12-28-12, 19:26
Hello mongers,

I live in Phnom Penh and I've read a dozen pages of this forum.

My impression is you guys are paying a bit too much but on the other side the going rates here have raised a lot in the last two years unlike in the rest of Cambo.

Said that, it has nothing to do with the cost of life here apart for a few things, it's all because of this new wave or rich tourists overpaying like crazy and I've witness mongers paying absolutely overboard for girls worth maybe 10$ a shag.

So, first of all, the bars in the riverside (104/110/118/130/136) :

I had a full time girlfriend working in one hostess so I think to know a bit the score.

Some of them indeed never go out with customers and are happy making some money with ladydrinks.

Consider their salary in a bar is usually 70$/month for 8hrs / day 6days / week, for each ladydrink (3$) they

Get 1. 25$ depending on the bar, an average girl can easily earn a couple ladydrinks per night, the good ones.

Can get up to 10 drinks, the bad ones go home with nothing, but don't worry their business is getting barfined.

(7-10$) or getting crazy tips from drinkers.

You may have wondered for instance how many of these bars can survive with 10 girls inside and maybe half a customer.

Drinking a coke.

Simple, they make a shitload of money with tips, there are crazy guys giving out 10-20$ or more for absolutely no special reason,

There are guys offering 10 or 20 ladydrink in a night (that's already 60$ and still no sex!) , guys asking the phone number of the girls.

And then taking them around the next day in luxurious places, again with crazy tips included and finally the ones who fell in love for

A girl and become their sponsor or buy them the latest iPad or iPhone or take her shopping around (100-200$ if gold is involved).

Now about the boomboom : there are excellent girls in the riverside but it's also one of the most expensive options in town!

I've read some of your message being shocked by girls in bars asking 50$ ST, well that's normal nowadays but it depends on many factors,

Some girls are fine with 20-30$ as anywhere else, but others are very picky and will not shag for less than 40-50$, basically if they

Don't like you they will ask you too much and even then they can be a starfish in bed, not to mention they could refuse BBBJ as well,

After all most of these girls don't start as hookers they just start with ladydrinks and only after some time they eventually switch

To full time or part time hookers because they see how easily the other girls make 100s of bucks, I can't blame them but

That's the way it is and by the way the young girls have it much more easy than the others, I know one cute girl 21 yrs old who does no BBBJ.

And no BB altogether and she asks 60-100$ LT take it or leave it and there's no shortage of customers for her and she has also 3 sponsors.

Conclusion : do whatever you want and have fun!

Just remember that these bars are a big ripoff in one way or another.

I would stick with the bars in 104 especially the Air Force Bar as the girls there have really a good attitude and don't ask crazy prices (20-30$ ST)

And if they like you they're usually happy to go around for dinner, disco, whatever, they're clean and don't do drugs and never make troubles.

At the moment, there's no way to pay less than 20$ ST and actually they usually start asking 30$ anyway.

IF you're a regular and you speak some khmer and they like you then it's a whole different story but don't expect to pay 10$ or to shag for free.

Free sex can be had outside working hours if she's really into you, but 10 or 15$ is next to impossible because it would be a loss of face for her.

Unless she knows you very well, in that case she will tell you to come when there's nobody like in the afternoon or when they're closing at 3AM.

Next chapter : freelancers.

Simian
12-30-12, 11:46
Hello mongers,

I live in Phnom Penh and I've read a dozen pages of this forum.

My impression is you guys are paying a bit too much but on the other side the going rates here have raised a lot in the last two years unlike in the rest of Cambo.

. .

Just remember that these bars are a big ripoff in one way or another.

I would stick with the bars in 104 especially the Air Force Bar as the girls there have really a good attitude and don't ask crazy prices (20-30$ ST)

And if they like you they're usually happy to go around for dinner, disco, whatever, they're clean and don't do drugs and never make troubles.I agree with your assessment of the Riverside area bars but not in the case of street 104. My experiences with Air Force have already been reported in this forum and they were not good. I also took a girl out of another bar on 104 who was charming but no LT and higher price.

I think that the Phnom Penh riverside bar area is becoming like the Burgos Street in Manila. The girls and the bars have learned how to milk the tourist and there is far too much game-playing. PP is not yet at the level of Manila Burgos Street but it is rapidly heading in that direction. The very pretty young girls do not go with the customers because they get so much from lady drinks and only the older and not so fresh girls are available for take-out but only ST, unless LT happens to suit the girl at the time (bar closing time, customer staying in a really good hotel etc) and only for big money.

And every girl in Riverside starts her bidding at $50 or more for ST because there are so many foreigners who don't know the game and just pay whatever they are asked.

As in Manila, the best value for money is probably FL and sometimes the best experience is with a FL too.

AfAsia
12-30-12, 18:18
Hello mongers,

I live in Phnom Penh and I've read a dozen pages of this forum.

My impression is you guys are paying a bit too much but on the other side the going rates here have raised a lot in the last two years unlike in the rest of Cambo.

Said that, it has nothing to do with the cost of life here apart for a few things, it's all because of this new wave or rich tourists overpaying like crazy and I've witness mongers paying absolutely overboard for girls worth maybe 10$ a shag.

Next chapter : freelancers.Unfortunately this is the norm with lazy, non caring tourists who obviously do no research or have any idea forums such as ISG exist. Useful post, I look forward to the next chapter, MetaMonger.

MetaMonger
12-31-12, 06:11
Unfortunately this is the norm with lazy, non caring tourists who obviously do no research or have any idea forums such as ISG exist. Useful post, I look forward to the next chapter, MetaMonger.It's still much better than in Siem Reap where you have the absolute worst kind of tourists fresh off the airport with euros, yen, and wongs in their pockets.

Korean and Japanese are the kings of the hill in Phnom Penh and they're the favourite target of any decent working girl.

In my experience this type of overpaying tourists just don't care about the price, they care about the experience, they eventually seek the romance, they always value the look over substance or performance, they will rather overpay a starfish with good looks than a skilled sex worker with average look just to make some idiot photos on their iphone to show their friends back home.

The riverside bargirls are not targeting us well informed mongers, they love the newbies and the rich suckers as they're the only ones gullible enough to become also potential long-distance sponsors.

Said that, most of these girls are a lot less hardened that other girls in cheaper areas, some don't even do BBBJ and especially they don't do CIM.

To each his own, but the price they ask is absolutely ridicolous.

MetaMonger
12-31-12, 06:33
I agree with your assessment of the Riverside area bars but not in the case of street 104. My experiences with Air Force have already been reported in this forum and they were not good. I also took a girl out of another bar on 104 who was charming but no LT and higher price.

I think that the Phnom Penh riverside bar area is becoming like the Burgos Street in Manila. The girls and the bars have learned how to milk the tourist and there is far too much game-playing. PP is not yet at the level of Manila Burgos Street but it is rapidly heading in that direction. The very pretty young girls do not go with the customers because they get so much from lady drinks and only the older and not so fresh girls are available for take-out but only ST, unless LT happens to suit the girl at the time (bar closing time, customer staying in a really good hotel etc) and only for big money.

And every girl in Riverside starts her bidding at $50 or more for ST because there are so many foreigners who don't know the game and just pay whatever they are asked.

As in Manila, the best value for money is probably FL and sometimes the best experience is with a FL too.Girls in 104 quickly get down to heart when you tell them you live in PP and you speak some khmer.

But that's also the point where they realize they better stick with other customers as they know you're not going to pay them more than 20-30 bucks.

Some of them don't go out with customers at all, they're just there to score lady drinks.

Average monthly salary is 70$ (6 days per week) , for each lady drink they get 1. 25$ or 1. 5$

If they engage into kissing you deep throat, letting you touch her pussy, etc etc, she will ask you a tip of 1-2$

All in all they can easily make 10 or even 20 bucks per day without doing any sex and I can tell you in PP a salary.

Of 300$ is quite good considering these girls are often illiterate with no skills whatsoever and in massage shop.

They would be lucky to make 100$/month.

They tend to live in shitholes, often far away from downtown. 30 to 50$ per month, or they share an apartment.

You can rent for 150$/month with other 3-4 girls, I've seen a couple of them pretty grim scenario, it must be heaven when.

A rich customer take them to sleep in a 4-5 stars hotel.

Said that, these girls like to have fun, if they like you they're often glad to go out with you for a dinner or in disco or whatever.

Disco in particular (Heart, Pontoon) is one of their favourites as they're stuck every day in their damn bar and never go out too much.

One girl from Air Force for instance came in disco with us recently and had lots of fun and after she took my friend to her (shithole) house.

Where he shagged her for free, you see never say never. But it must be said my friend spent almost 50$ in drinks in her bar before and paid.

Her barfine as well.

As far as I see they use to ask 40-50$ ST, they will never go below 20$, maybe also to not lose face, it would be an insult to accept 5-10$

Like a street hooker, that's probably why they'll rather boomboom for free if they're really into you, but who knows anything goes in PP.

Some even ask 100$ for LT, it depends on many factors, there's no clear rule, the more your show off your wealth the more she will ask for.

Money, even older girls ask crazy prices or at least they try.

Many of the girls have a boyfriend back home, say 50% of them, and a baby or two back in the village.

So many have sponsors overseas, others dream of marrying a rich foreigner.

However it turns out, they are almost always not from Phnom Penh, and they make sure nobody in their hometown know they're hostess girls.

In PP.

Milking tourists : yes, that's exactly their business, and in the most active bars they're pressured by the bar owners to make you drink a lot.

Indeed their goal is scoring lady drinks rather than being barfined but it depends on the bar, some bars are like entering a crowded disco, others are

Very soft where you can sit and relax for hours, you must know where to go basically and the average tourists just don't have the time to explore much.

Rick Rock
12-31-12, 07:20
I wonder if the dozen or so posters reporting on the last few pages will be flamed for pointing out the same reality that I did months ago.

MetaMonger
12-31-12, 10:58
I wonder if the dozen or so posters reporting on the last few pages will be flamed for pointing out the same reality that I did months ago.Look, I can tell you where to shag for 4-5$ in Phnom Penh if price is the only issue, plenty of street hookers and carboard brothels not too far from the riverside, but unfortunately the bar scene has been killed by crazy tourists paying like there's no tomorrow.

Last I've heard this morning, a japanese yesterday night spending 300$ on drinks and lady drinks in 136 and still no sex (he went back to his hotel completely drunk and alone).

Now, with clients like this there's no surprise the girls don't give a shit about being barfined and if they do they start asking 50$ or 100$ a pop.

And how about the girls in the club Darling Darling at Nagaworld (casino) asking 150-250$ ST?

These prices are simply CRAZY completely out of proportion but PP is really changing fast, even rental prices in downtown are bollocks and what about NGO guys paying 2000$/month to rent a shit apartment in BKK1?

The pricing difference at the moment is astonishing, in one bar they can ask you 100$ and in the next one they can be ok for 20$ LT. But they smell newbies and tourist a mile away, it's up to you to know the score and it's not easy here, many things are really low profile especially the cheapest places, no signs, no girls calling you outside, no red lights. And yet maybe 10 girls upstairs offering sex for 3-4$ and 1 hr massage for 2$. I don't know why they make it so hard nowadays, in other places it's a lot more open air with no strings attached.

Mackin
12-31-12, 18:41
I read the other day in the New York times that somebody paid 55, 000, 000 for a condo in New york or L. A. Somebody had a place for sale for 78, 000, 000. Now that is over priced.

I am learning about what to expect next month so keep the information coming.

Jonlittle
01-01-13, 01:35
Among all the men paradises in SEA, Cambodia has the ugliest girls IMHO. I don't understand how some crazy Jap tourists could pay such money so some ugly girls.

Tiger 888
01-01-13, 01:50
.Look, I can tell you where to shag for 4-5$ in Phnom Penh if price is the only issue, plenty of street hookers and carboard brothels not too far from the riverside, but unfortunately the bar scene has been killed by crazy tourists paying like there's no tomorrow.I strongly suggest that you share your places very carefully and definitely not in public, or they will be spoiled in no time.

JesseJames
01-01-13, 13:35
I strongly suggest that you share your places very carefully and definitely not in public, or they will be spoiled in no time.Cardboard brothels. I'm there, man.

Simian
01-01-13, 15:23
look, i can tell you where to shag for 4-5$ in phnom penh if price is the only issue, plenty of street hookers and carboard brothels not too far from the riverside, but unfortunately the bar scene has been killed by crazy tourists paying like there's no tomorrow.

last i've heard this morning, a japanese yesterday night spending 300$ on drinks and lady drinks in 136 and still no sex (he went back to his hotel completely drunk and alone).

now, with clients like this there's no surprise the girls don't give a shit about being barfined and if they do they start asking 50$ or 100$ a pop.

and how about the girls in the club darling darling at nagaworld (casino) asking 150-250$ st?

these prices are simply crazy completely out of proportion but pp is really changing fast, even rental prices in downtown are bollocks and what about ngo guys paying 2000$/month to rent a shit apartment in bkk1?

the pricing difference at the moment is astonishing, in one bar they can ask you 100$ and in the next one they can be ok for 20$ lt. but they smell newbies and tourist a mile away, it's up to you to know the score and it's not easy here, many things are really low profile especially the cheapest places, no signs, no girls calling you outside, no red lights. and yet maybe 10 girls upstairs offering sex for 3-4$ and 1 hr massage for 2$. i don't know why they make it so hard nowadays, in other places it's a lot more open air with no strings attached.plenty of street hookers and cardboard brothels not too far from riverside? certainly not within walking distance! if so, you would have thought that some foreigners would have found their way to such places by now. and the "low profile" places for $3-$4? you are big on claims but very short on actual new info. i have been to so-called chicken farms in other parts of cambodia and never saw prices like that. do you think that such a local place would just charge a westerner such a low price? a local might get such a low price but definitely not a westerner.

quite few years ago you might have got a $5 bang in vietnamese brothel or a chicken farm far from phnom penh but now such places have gone to $10. most if not all of the cheap vietnamese brothels that used to be located not far from riverside are long gone. they were full of thieves anyway.

the girls in brothels or chicken farms generally do not speak any english and the conditions and hygiene are definitely wanting. and $10 is for one shot. the price may now be higher as i have not been around those places for about 2 years. by the way, these places were far from phnom penh where the prices are higher than everywhere else in cambodia. perhaps you can get it cheaper in some out of the way locations in cambodia but you would probably have to speak khmei to even find them let alone get access. and the conditions would be terrible, to say the least.

paying $20-25 or for a girl who is experienced with foreigners and gives them the kind of service they want and who has mastered some hygiene standards, where you can fuck in the comfort of your own hotel room, in the massage place or in the one or two places where there is a relatively clean back room with shower is a far more comfortable and secure experience than a $10 fuck in some cardboard place or chicken farm or local brothel where you don't know if someone is going to rob you.

when dealing with chicken farms, i always took along a local or a locally based expat who i could trust for security and usually had the girl taken to my hotel overnight. i avoided anyone that even appeared to be **** and stayed away from a place that i suspected had trafficed girls there against their will.

one hotel (since shut down) used to send out for several girls from the chicken farm for me to choose one. my experience with these ladies were very varied, from absolutely wonderful (from a girl who could not speak a word of english) to terrible. some of these girls were used to the fast and furious sex with locals and could not understand that foreigners want to take their time and enjoyed a long bj etc. these places were all far far away from phnom penh.

mm, if you have info, provide it. streets, addresses or locations. this is what the forum is about. if the info is too sensitive and you think that the police might pick up on it in the open forum, you can get a membership so that people can pm you for such sensitive info. but just waving around some claims about cheap sex that no one can even sample let alone check whether it is true, helps nobody.

Uzinuzin
01-01-13, 17:22
she took my friend to her (shithole) house.

Where he shagged her for free, you see never say never. But it must be said my friend spent almost 50$ in drinks in her bar before and paid.

Her barfine as well.This also makes me laugh when some guys say we bang this and that chick for free (or for taxi money) , while they already spend more than her fees on drinks and other stuff. And of course they continue to do that every week (so the girls know the money stream continue). Even they say this girl accept this low amount and so on, but forget to say how much they spend on the side and in addition.

I remember a Thai girl who asked me to bring her a perfume from UK costing 30 (she send me the web link) , then she asked for 1000 Baht for ST (her real price is 2500 Baht of course, but she is very fair in her dealings and did the subtraction quickly) , so should I say I banged a real hottie (9. 5 in all aspects) for a 1000!

Mr Enternational
01-01-13, 18:23
I remember a Thai girl who asked me to bring her a perfume from UK costing 30 (she send me the web link) , then she asked for 1000 Baht for ST (her real price is 2500 Baht of course, but she is very fair in her dealings and did the subtraction quickly) , so should I say I banged a real hottie (9. 5 in all aspects) for a 1000!Did you tell her no? It seems many of you guys are afraid to say no to a woman because you don't want to make her upset because then she may not fuck you. Any woman knows that when she asks me to bring something that she should follow it with,"I will give you the money for it." Without those words then her chances of getting what she asks is virtually 0. In your case you essentially got the money for it because she knocked it off what she usually charges you. (2500 baht for a chick who you deal with on an ongoing basis? Gee dude.)

Uzinuzin
01-02-13, 04:14
Did you tell her no? It seems many of you guys are afraid to say no to a woman because you don't want to make her upset because then she may not fuck you. Any woman knows that when she asks me to bring something that she should follow it with,"I will give you the money for it." Without those words then her chances of getting what she asks is virtually 0. In your case you essentially got the money for it because she knocked it off what she usually charges you. (2500 baht for a chick who you deal with on an ongoing basis? Gee dude.)You are correct, and I no longer get to see her as she started realizing her potential and asking for large sums, she now also travels to Hong Kong and Singapore on occasion where guys sending her the ticket and ship her over for a week or two of intensive fun, she comes back with so much money she told me she will be buying a flat soon?

MetaMonger
01-02-13, 11:30
Among all the men paradises in SEA, Cambodia has the ugliest girls IMHO. I don't understand how some crazy Jap tourists could pay such money so some ugly girls.Maybe for the novelty? And if you don't like khmer girls there's plenty of vietnamese girls.

MetaMonger
01-02-13, 12:16
Yesterday evening I was riding on Str. 70, there were maybe 20-30 street girls at all, unlike a few weeks ago they ALL asked 10$ and only one agreed on BBBJ, one girl had the guts to say in good english that "nobody gnam-gnam" which is pure BS, only one agreed to shag for 7$ but then I refused as I just wanted to check the prices and she looked like shit anyway.

By the way, there's a wooden house on the left side of the road (str. 70) if you come from the roundabout at the end of Monivong. 3 girls inside and they all ask 10$ non negotiable, not worth it as the place has the typical "chicke farm" look & feel and the girls were rubbish to say the least.

Ended up getting a 2. 5$ khmer massage near the port + 2$ happy ending, really rock bottom place, I'll never go back again and in any case I went there just because I like the thrill of finding alternative places, there were not even rooms, just beds separated by a curtain, loud TVs and music on cell phones, girls screaming to each other, classic rock bottom affair, the girl even complained because when I cum I sprayed some drops on her jeans and on the bed, hahaha, the massage was amateur to say the least.

I'm wasting time and money with these places, with 7$ you can get a good oil massage in many real massage parlours (but no happy ending apart rare cases) and you'll go home smelling good rather than smelling like shit, no value for money in most of these 2$ massages and it gets boring going over and over in my 3-4 favourite ones.

MetaMonger
01-02-13, 12:49
plenty of street hookers and cardboard brothels not too far from riverside? certainly not within walking distance! if so, you would have thought that some foreigners would have found their way to such places by now. and the "low profile" places for $3-$4? you are big on claims but very short on actual new info. i have been to so-called chicken farms in other parts of cambodia and never saw prices like that. do you think that such a local place would just charge a westerner such a low price? a local might get such a low price but definitely not a westerner.

quite few years ago you might have got a $5 bang in vietnamese brothel or a chicken farm far from phnom penh but now such places have gone to $10. most if not all of the cheap vietnamese brothels that used to be located not far from riverside are long gone. they were full of thieves anyway.

the girls in brothels or chicken farms generally do not speak any english and the conditions and hygiene are definitely wanting. and $10 is for one shot. the price may now be higher as i have not been around those places for about 2 years. by the way, these places were far from phnom penh where the prices are higher than everywhere else in cambodia. perhaps you can get it cheaper in some out of the way locations in cambodia but you would probably have to speak khmei to even find them let alone get access. and the conditions would be terrible, to say the least.

paying $20-25 or for a girl who is experienced with foreigners and gives them the kind of service they want and who has mastered some hygiene standards, where you can fuck in the comfort of your own hotel room, in the massage place or in the one or two places where there is a relatively clean back room with shower is a far more comfortable and secure experience than a $10 fuck in some cardboard place or chicken farm or local brothel where you don't know if someone is going to rob you.

when dealing with chicken farms, i always took along a local or a locally based expat who i could trust for security and usually had the girl taken to my hotel overnight. i avoided anyone that even appeared to be **** and stayed away from a place that i suspected had trafficed girls there against their will.

one hotel (since shut down) used to send out for several girls from the chicken farm for me to choose one. my experience with these ladies were very varied, from absolutely wonderful (from a girl who could not speak a word of english) to terrible. some of these girls were used to the fast and furious sex with locals and could not understand that foreigners want to take their time and enjoyed a long bj etc. these places were all far far away from phnom penh.

mm, if you have info, provide it. streets, addresses or locations. this is what the forum is about. if the info is too sensitive and you think that the police might pick up on it in the open forum, you can get a membership so that people can pm you for such sensitive info. but just waving around some claims about cheap sex that no one can even sample let alone check whether it is true, helps nobody.low profile places are khmer / viet massages that don't even have a sign outside, all you see is a couple girls in pijama or even 3-4 boys sitting outside, no red lights, nothing.

you'll have to speak some khmer and upstairs they've some girls doing the usual 2$ massage + happy ending (1-2$ tip, up to you, some don't ask any tips).

cardboard brothels are a bit more tricky, foreigners arent allowed into all brothels, girls will refuse you entrance or tell you they do nothing.

i know of three brothels in the port area (northern end of sisowath quay) , all vietnamese and price ranges from 6 to 10$ negotiable, but it's 5$ for khmers.

quality is very low but in one of these i found a very energetic viet girl she does great bbbj and good boomboom, the other two were depressing, lurid, smelling bad, and better to be avoided.

honestly i've given up with these low budget operations, but it was fun while it lasted.

chicken farms : the one in sihanoukville is still running and they all ask 5$ +1$ tip (been there a few months ago).

there are certainly some chicken farms in the extreme suburbs of pp but i'll have to investigate further, my impression is pp tends to be a lot more low profile than smaller towns and in any case i can't see the point in driving half an hour to shag a 5$ girl in a bamboo hut.

terrible conditions? no, they're just normal countryside wooden homes, that's the way they live, no more no less.

they look terrible in comparison to western standards, of course, and they shower khmer-style with a bucket of water on the head.

said that, you can pick your girl and take her into your hotel, have a long shower together and she's alright.

you'll not believe how many of the freelancers you see in str. 51 or walkabout live in the ugly suburbs in shitholes where they pay 30-40$/month, how's that different from the chicken farms?

two days ago we went in the "house" of a nice girl working in a bar in 136, it's near the royal palace inside a courtyard, maybe 20 square meters, toilet outside, barely enough space for her bed (matress on the floor) and a wardrobe. 50$/month, and then in the bar she will ask no less than 40$ st and she has one sponsor in uk!

as for security, if in doubt go there in the afternoon when there's few or zero customers.

i've never had problems but at one point i was a regular so to speak, i met a couple of the girls also in bars, they know me and we became friends, one of them used to stay with me lt all day for just 10$ and she invited me often to eat khmer and drink with the other ladies in their shack.

the only ones exploiting the girls are the fucking mamasans, they're greedy snakes, and yes many girls have to pay back money to them, indeed is a good idea to take the girl out or the mamasans are happy to disturb or even knock the door after 5-10 minutes, happened to me twice.

the only real risk comes if after boomboom you go by night in the bars of the chicken farms, plenty of crazy drunken khmers on yaba looking for trouble or wanting to steal your moto or just have some fun against a barang, avoid it.

quality : indeed, as you've noticed barely 10-20% of the chicken girls are any good, it takes time and luck to find the diamond in the rough, i can't think this is something tourists can afford unless they go there every other day.

infos : i've no idea about chicken farms in pp, i'm sure there's something but so far i've yet to explore the outer suburbs.

i can only tell about snooky and i recommend the chicken farm there but it ain't a place for everybody!

Frankfurter
01-04-13, 04:23
Here is my update on a few 130 St / 136 St. Bars:

'Lemon':

Nice small bar, girl's for take- out, however read my earlier post about my experience with one good looking 21-yr. Old. Cheap bar fine: $7.

'Oasis':

A bar I like, however I was unsuccessful to convince a good looking, hot girl to go with me. I went a second time and she said that she would go with me when I return tomorrow. Well, that never happened of course.

'Candy Bar':

Probably the largest bar with the most girls. Open 24 hours. When you enter some ten girls will approach quickly and stand around your table, word- and smile-less, creepy in a way. Once I tried to pay with a ten $ bill and the mamasan said the money is 'no good'. (It was a 1963 series bill.) The bar is a rip-off joint, stay away.

'Hooters':

I like this bar. Except for the two lady managers the girls don't have big tits like one would expect from the name. Free pool table, girls are happy to play. Pretty much all girls are take-out, except for one stunner who sometimes comes in when it gets boring for her at her house. She is married to a guy from Holland. I barfined ($10 / day) a girl for a three-day motorcycle trip from this place which was an entirely satisfying experience.

'Blue Room':

Small bar, bare-bones comfort level, the (not very pretty) girls tend to play with customers cocks, after enough lady drinks. That's about it. I didn't go back.

'136 Bar':

Another bar I like. Sometimes live music on stage. Nice girls, better looking. I like the layout of the bar.

'Sharky':

American style bar, could be in Key West, FL, or somewhere else in the US. If you want a quick drink and listen to some life music (on weekends only) the place is OK. Mediocre Tex-Mex food. In regards to girls, which means bar and wait staff and service girls, the place has without any doubt a cast of the oldest and ugliest girls I've seen in this area. If you are into scratching the bottom of the barrel, this place is for you.

MetaMonger
01-04-13, 11:33
Here is my update on a few 130 St / 136 St. Bars:

'Lemon':

Nice small bar, girl's for take- out, however read my earlier post about my experience with one good looking 21-yr. Old. Cheap bar fine: $7.

'Oasis':

A bar I like, however I was unsuccessful to convince a good looking, hot girl to go with me. I went a second time and she said that she would go with me when I return tomorrow. Well, that never happened of course.

'Candy Bar':

Probably the largest bar with the most girls. Open 24 hours. When you enter some ten girls will approach quickly and stand around your table, word- and smile-less, creepy in a way. Once I tried to pay with a ten $ bill and the mamasan said the money is 'no good'. (It was a 1963 series bill.) The bar is a rip-off joint, stay away.

'Hooters':

I like this bar. Except for the two lady managers the girls don't have big tits like one would expect from the name. Free pool table, girls are happy to play. Pretty much all girls are take-out, except for one stunner who sometimes comes in when it gets boring for her at her house. She is married to a guy from Holland. I barfined ($10 / day) a girl for a three-day motorcycle trip from this place which was an entirely satisfying experience.

'Blue Room':

Small bar, bare-bones comfort level, the (not very pretty) girls tend to play with customers cocks, after enough lady drinks. That's about it. I didn't go back.

'136 Bar':

Another bar I like. Sometimes live music on stage. Nice girls, better looking. I like the layout of the bar.

'Sharky':

American style bar, could be in Key West, FL, or somewhere else in the US. If you want a quick drink and listen to some life music (on weekends only) the place is OK. Mediocre Tex-Mex food. In regards to girls, which means bar and wait staff and service girls, the place has without any doubt a cast of the oldest and ugliest girls I've seen in this area. If you are into scratching the bottom of the barrel, this place is for you.Sharkly is in decline since a long time, and by the way the girls there are all freelancers, that's why many of them are skunks or fugly.

Candy Bar, indeed a ripoff as they always try to doctor the bill! However, if you just drink a draft beer you should be on the safe side,

It's not a bad place upstairs and it's one of the few bars open 24hr.

Lemon / Oasis : I know 4 bargirls there, but let me say not all the girls there are available for take-away, they will also ask you crazy prices.

Like 50$ ST or 100$ LT, half of them have a khmer or barang boyfriend + sponsors, many are just fine making a few dollars with lady drinks, they're not.

Hardened hookers at all and often they will refuse to be barfined if they don't like a customer or if they're just not in a good mood for whatever.

Silly reason, their whole life is a soap opera full of drama and they tend to hate each other girl and every bar has of course its own "queen bee", hahaha.

Dragon1423
01-05-13, 23:26
BTW, how is it that you have not seen this in Thailand? Girls in the bar there have asked for lady drinks as many years that I have travelled to LOS and remember going to the bars there.[/QUOTE] from ISG Member Uzinuzin 12-23-2012.


I would guess the answer is we travel in differently in Thailand and not to the same bars. I have been traveling in SE Asia & Thailand since 1992, North Asia since 1977, lived there for over 8 years. I guess things have changed since 2009 or perhaps maybe it is time to "get off the beaten tourist path in Thailand"? Last time in Thailand, never ran into bar girls asking for lady drinks and then refusing to go out. That is the point I am making "they are really not in the business" they are there to get money, not to provide sexual service. They are interested in making easy money from those naive enough to hand it out. Why leave the bar for two hours or a night and miss out on that free cash? Once they ask you for a lady drink, you know they are likely not in the business. A way to find out, ask them to go immediately. The bar girls did not think up this scheme the bar owners did and they all make a lot of money from it. If a person is looking for a short or long time perhaps they should hunt where it exists, this is the point I am making. Or a person could just hang out buying lady drinks hoping for the best, not for me, my time is too valuable. When you walk into a bar and they ask for a lady drink you should know you are wrong place if you are mongering. So it looks like our experiences are just different in Thailand, ISG member Uzinuzin, and that is just fine. Good Day!

Mr Enternational
01-06-13, 04:50
BTW, how is it that you have not seen this in Thailand? Girls in the bar there have asked for lady drinks as many years that I have travelled to LOS and remember going to the bars there.I think you missed the main point of what he said.


Last time in Thailand, never ran into bar girls asking for lady drinks and then refusing to go out.

MetaMonger
01-06-13, 14:43
Once they ask you for a lady drink, you know they are likely not in the business. A way to find out, ask them to go immediately. The bar girls did not think up this scheme the bar owners did and they all make a lot of money from it. If a person is looking for a short or long time perhaps they should hunt where it exists, this is the point I am making. Or a person could just hang out buying lady drinks hoping for the best, not for me, my time is too valuable. When you walk into a bar and they ask for a lady drink you should know you are wrong place if you are mongering.It's a bit more complex than that, at least in PP.

In most of the bars at least 50% are willing to ST, some do only ST and other do both ST and LT.

The other girls are often newbies and only do lady drinks, so of course they're a bit more aggressive considering they only get paid 1$ or 1. 25$ for each lady drink (you pay 3$ or whatever).

Then you have the girls who refuse ST / LT because they're on their period, or because they're tired, sick, whatever reason, or simply because they don't LIKE YOU, yes I know a few bargirls who are very selective on who they shag and it's not based on the price you offer, not at all.

Some girls boomboom every night, others are ok having sex just once a week, they don't give a shit actually as with 3-4 customers a month they're already earning a GOOD salary and back home they've their boyfriend and their baby.

So, what's the plus in wasting time in bars? Strictly speaking bargirls are not "hardened" as the freelancers and not desperate as the street hookers and considering they don't boomboom they're relatively "safer" and in case of troubles you can go back to the bar and complain with the owner.

Every bar has strict rules about this, stealing to customers is forbidden for example and they're fired on the spot if a customer complains and then it turns out the girl did some crazy shit, this means she'll not find another job in the nearby bars and she will have to go elsewhere or in another city or start freelancing (martini, walkabout, sorya / 51, etc).

And finally, MOST of the bargirls have one or more sponsors, that means hundreds of dollars per month doing NOTHING, and that's the reason they're so lazy relaxed and not hardened and can turn down customers they don't like.

Ppfrequentv
01-07-13, 07:22
Hi all,

I'm returning soon to PP and was wondering whether more news is available for daytime BBBJ. I RTFF but not much has come up. Looking for a daytime massage (no HJ but BBBJ most welcome hehe) or a girlie bar with an on site room for a quickie during daytime.

I will of course go about in the evenings but sometimes my little friend needs some action during daytime. I know most of the usual places so any new places are welcome. Anybody has some info on the "happy man bar"?

Info much appreciated and I will report here.

Uzinuzin
01-07-13, 11:46
I would guess the answer is we travel in differently in Thailand and not to the same bars. ., ., ., So it looks like our experiences are just different in Thailand,That might be true, I was in Patong, Phuket for about 2 months Oct, Nov 2012 and also a few weeks about the same time in 2011 (and previous years) , I can tell you the girls are really loaded down there, and over the years I see more and more of the young hot ones just have lady drinks and don't go with customers. Not just me, even with young, good looking guys who spend money like there's no tomorrow (so money is not the issue!).

GooberMonger
01-24-13, 20:46
Living in PP has been great, compared to living in Pattaya; where I recently visited, but that's another story.

I've been mongering around S. E. A. For about 10 years now, lived near Pattaya for 3 years and going on 7 years in PP. I thought it was the end of PP when K11 got closed down, my home away from home, but things have just got better and better.

First is you need to speak K'mai and the same for Thailand this opens doors to a different world. All the Barangs going to all the well known spots spending good money on used goods.

Cambodian girls love white guys fact, most girls are virgins until marriage fact, and if you can speak K'mai and have Khmer friends you can get some fine girls that aren't used up. A lot of them need training, but they are willing students.

Since a good Khmer friend of mine taught me how to talk to the girls and the lines to use on them, it's like the flood gates have been opened. I get a new virgin or slightly used girl every 2-3 months. It costly, well not really $200-$500 at first, but after you have her. She is cheap and clean not bagging it, no more drippy dick.

At present I have 5 girlfriends and working on 2 virgins; most of my girlfriends know about each other now. No problem, it's a good thing because if one does anal, or something else they all want to do to win me over. Some, one is like a Thai girl and I have to be careful about her, but the others, just don't talk about them.

I still go out with my friends and get new stuff too, last one wanted $50, but she only had one guy before me. Expats would never see her because she was in a VIP Karaoke. Beer gardens you can find some really nice girls too. My rule is 18-24 then your out the door.

I still go to Thailand too, was in BKK last week, that's another post.

Really though most guys coming to Cambodia for a few weeks, if your mongering it's not the best, Thailand and the Philippines I'd say are better, but not cheaper. Your selection isn't as good here either.

I lived in Thailand and can tell you living in Cambodia does have it's advantages, especially if you know the right people.

Yes, yes, it is a pain training new girls, but everyone of my girls does anal and wants CIM after. They knew nothing about sex to start so nothing was taboo. I'm lucky I got the time to train them.

Next maybe my own place so all my monger friends can enjoy the fruits of the land, well not my own place 100% have to have a partner in business and that's another post.

See you in BKK in March, Soi Cowboy.

FruitNinja
01-26-13, 02:00
Our first night we walked the riverfront two days in a row but didn't see anything. I had one hag approach me and I wasn't sure what she wanted and wasn't going to stick around long enough to find out. Asked me if I was with family so it was definitely sex related. Maybe a mama? I will see if she's outb there again today. We ended up at a 104th Street which google calls Seng Thuon. Between 102 and 106. It's a short street.

First place was Airport and the pickings were rough. It was Thursday night so ration was way in favor of mongers. This changed considerably Friday night. Next stop was Rose which is across the street. Rose had some stunners and I ended up picking one up for $10 BF and $40 for the girl. It was ST, a couple of hours but the girl was a stunner and a whole lot of fun. We went there Friday night and there was still a lot fo girls but the good ones seem to have been taken out already.

We went to a few places along 136th and there were the occasional stunner but I think the good ones were already taken. I almost grabbed one but she started with the rules before I even decided and her English was non-existant. Quoted 50 for ST 80 for LT. I would have needed to BF the translator. Years of mongering has taught me that the language thing can be used to the girls advantage when you get back to the hotel so you need to make sure all's on the table before you commit.

There is definitely more available here than in Vietnam or at least it's recognizable. The girls are pretty in their own way. A much more varied selection of looks than in Vietnam. Half the guys like it here better than the Philippines. I don't have enough experience yet to make that call.

I finally took a day off although I almost got a happy ending massage. I passed. My cock was telling me that he needed a break.

FruitNinja
01-26-13, 02:08
I arrived in PP ex Singapore a few days ago and life is going well.

As you leave the PP Airport Customs Hall you are in unrestricted public space and there are many booths or kiosks selling local phone and data plans for the various telecom service providers.

I wanted a phone and data plan for 2-3 weeks with a good data capacity as I would be using the phone as the wifi connection to my tablet computer. I went to a kiosk selling plans on the "qb" network and one of the two guys showed me a couple of plans ($10 x 1 and 1 at $15) each with a one month life and rechargeable.

MORALS OF THE STORY: (!) Do not buy services on the "qb" network if you want a data plan or documentation of your plan / contract. (2) Stay with the major players / service providers and with that I fully recommend "cellcard" plans through Mobitel.I got my Hello Axiata sim at the first kiosk. No problems.

FruitNinja
01-26-13, 04:16
Living in PP has been great, compared to living in Pattaya; where I recently visited, but that's another story.

I've been mongering around S. E. A. For about 10 years now, lived near Pattaya for 3 years and going on 7 years in PP. I thought it was the end of PP when K11 got closed down, my home away from home, but things have just got better and better.

First is you need to speak K'mai and the same for Thailand this opens doors to a different world. All the Barangs going to all the well known spots spending good money on used goods.

Cambodian girls love white guys fact, most girls are virgins until marriage fact, and if you can speak K'mai and have Khmer friends you can get some fine girls that aren't used up. A lot of them need training, but they are willing students.

Since a good Khmer friend of mine taught me how to talk to the girls and the lines to use on them, it's like the flood gates have been opened. I get a new virgin or slightly used girl every 2-3 months. It costly, well not really $200-$500 at first, but after you have her. She is cheap and clean not bagging it, no more drippy dick.

At present I have 5 girlfriends and working on 2 virgins; most of my girlfriends know about each other now. No problem, it's a good thing because if one does anal, or something else they all want to do to win me over. Some, one is like a Thai girl and I have to be careful about her, but the others, just don't talk about them.

I still go out with my friends and get new stuff too, last one wanted $50, but she only had one guy before me. Expats would never see her because she was in a VIP Karaoke. Beer gardens you can find some really nice girls too. My rule is 18-24 then your out the door.

I still go to Thailand too, was in BKK last week, that's another post.

Really though most guys coming to Cambodia for a few weeks, if your mongering it's not the best, Thailand and the Philippines I'd say are better, but not cheaper. Your selection isn't as good here either.

I lived in Thailand and can tell you living in Cambodia does have it's advantages, especially if you know the right people.

Yes, yes, it is a pain training new girls, but everyone of my girls does anal and wants CIM after. They knew nothing about sex to start so nothing was taboo. I'm lucky I got the time to train them.

Next maybe my own place so all my monger friends can enjoy the fruits of the land, well not my own place 100% have to have a partner in business and that's another post.

See you in BKK in March, Soi Cowboy.You might want to pay the small entrance fee so people can contact you. I've been running with mongers for a while and there's no shortage of guys looking for business opportunities.

Mackin
01-26-13, 05:02
Spent 3 days there last week and left with this opinion. The city is a dump. It does have possabilities but I will be dead before that. The farther you get away from the river the worse it is. But the river front is OK.

Traffic is a joke. Tuk tuk drivers are not licensed so they just drive. Everywhere and anywhere. They cross in front of you and drive in the middle of the traffic lanes. They do have lanes marked but I guess they are only a suggestion. Better to take you part out the middle as someone might pull over on the side and stop, blocking traffic. Traffic lights must be expensive as they are only t what looks like major intersections. So turn in front of cars, or what ever. We used to cal this a Chinese fire drill. What it really looks like is kids on a play ground at a school at recess. All over the place and just running around.

It is cheap. Beer can be had for a dollar a glass. Coke is 1. 00 up to 1. 50 US depending on the place. Food is very reasonable to cheap.

Walkabout hotel is a dump. Open to the outside and old wooden tables and chairs. Forget it.

Better parts. See the prison S21. Interesting, but get a guide. The Killing fields is Ok but remember it is more about emotion as mostly holes in the ground and bone fragments in containers ffor safe keeping.

Street 104 and 136. Be careful at Candy bar as I heard it has a lot of LB working there. I was in Rose and Air force bar. Pulled from Rose for 10 plus 50 for ST. I thought the cutes little 85 pounds I had seen in the place. Said 23 and offered I'd. Looks 18. If want name PM me. I I would recommend them but many other places to see on 104. One girl came out of another bar and was very good looking.

136 has a few places that were mentioned here before also. Lemon, oasis and maybe the one next to the Golden house hotel.

Stayed at Golden house hotel. Good location. Place was clean and breakfast included. Smaller room with bathroom, TV and bed. Very decent for $30. 00 a night. Would go back there if ever go again.

Massage, at least foot massage was cheap. 7 to 8 us covers 1 hour.

Return would be not likely unless taking the river cruise to ho chi menh city. Busses are cheap all over so a good way to travel if you can.

Mackin
01-26-13, 05:11
Forgot to mention immigration at the airport. Another Chinese fire drill. No lines just rush the desk. Pay the visa fee. Move over to the side and wait with all the others as they process the visa. You are standing with all the others on the plane and a guy calls your name when it is ready. No rhyme or reason to who gets processed first. Doesn't speak loud and holds up your passport with picture showing. Now if at back of line might be awhile because might not be able to see picture or hear your name with Cambodian accent. It is a fun thing to watch

Uzinuzin
01-27-13, 15:29
but everyone of my girls does anal and wants CIM afterI wasn't going to say anything until I see someone added this to a report of distinction! LOL?

It is hard to believe that with some Khmer you can get multiple virgin girlfriends and sleep with them at your heart's content and let them know about each other too. They love to compete? Yeh, they do. In addition you can bang them in ass and come in their mouth too! LOL, that is more sounds like a fantasy. But hey, I like to read it. I like to read novels too.

They should put this post right up there at the top of Cambodian tourist board ads, nice one!

Scorchin1470
01-27-13, 15:45
Forgot to mention immigration at the airport. Another Chinese fire drill. No lines just rush the desk. Pay the visa fee. Move over to the side and wait with all the others as they process the visa. You are standing with all the others on the plane and a guy calls your name when it is ready. No rhyme or reason to who gets processed first. Doesn't speak loud and holds up your passport with picture showing. Now if at back of line might be awhile because might not be able to see picture or hear your name with Cambodian accent. It is a fun thing to watchVery quick to criticise a country you obviously know little about because you judge it purely on western standards.

Getting a visa is a damn sight easier than trekking up to an embassy, waiting days and paying a fortune.

As to the rest of your earlier post. Just an ill-judged winge. Apart from your rightful comment on Walkabout.

GooberMonger
01-28-13, 06:58
i wasn't going to say anything until i see someone added this to a report of distinction! lol?

it is hard to believe that with some khmer you can get multiple virgin girlfriends and sleep with them at your heart's content and let them know about each other too. they love to compete? yeh, they do. in addition you can bang them in ass and come in their mouth too! lol, that is more sounds like a fantasy. but hey, i like to read it. i like to read novels too.

they should put this post right up there at the top of cambodian tourist board ads, nice one!uzi, i shit you not mate. i learnt this art i'll call it from the khmer men who are some of the best mongers around and i don't know too many that don't screw around on their wives. if you have the money you can play the game, if your khmer. if your white you don't need a lot of money, just some good acting skills.

it is a bit of a scary game and one can get themselves in hot water to say the least. more along the lines of being charged for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). oh, yes, but not from her, but by her family making her charge you, because you have just taken away all the value of their daughter. so, my khmer friend told me to make sure you do the deed lol at a hotel or gh and have her sign in with you to cover your ass.

GooberMonger
01-28-13, 19:53
Well put the pussy up where your mouth has been. One of my custom fit, never seen another cock. I'll call it a Khmer fit. LOL.

Yes, Uzi this is one of them had her since she was 18 now 20. I've turned her into a monster, she gets wet from just a little kiss on the neck. Nothin turns me on more than puttin my hand down there and her pussy is just dripping wet. Damn, I'm gettin wood. Going to have to roll her over and pound it it her ass after I'm done this post.

Damn, I've seen some other post guys guys they got a * that looks like it went thru a hamburger grinder and seen more dick ends than week ends. LOL

Cheers,

FreebieFan
01-29-13, 02:32
Very quick to criticise a country you obviously know little about because you judge it purely on western standards.

Getting a visa is a damn sight easier than trekking up to an embassy, waiting days and paying a fortune.

As to the rest of your earlier post. Just an ill-judged winge.Whilst getting a visa is easy, his comments about the total lack of organisation at immigration ring totally true by all countries standards not just western.

Last trip I was there, myself, a few japanese girls and a couple others lined up to submit passports.

The guy completing the passports then literally threw them all in one heap to the guy doing the next part of the process. They all ended up on the floor. No one gave a shit.

Thats totally wrong by all standards. No need to stick up for the countries lack of care by claiming its cultural or can't be judged by "western standards". A lack of care and disrepect is exactly that.

Leftfield1965
01-29-13, 04:57
Whilst getting a visa is easy, his comments about the total lack of organisation at immigration ring totally true by all countries standards not just western.

Last trip I was there, myself, a few japanese girls and a couple others lined up to submit passports.

The guy completing the passports then literally threw them all in one heap to the guy doing the next part of the process. They all ended up on the floor. No one gave a shit.

Thats totally wrong by all standards. No need to stick up for the countries lack of care by claiming its cultural or can't be judged by "western standards". A lack of care and disrepect is exactly that.Geez, it appears we have some precious spoilt whinging brats on board.

Your passport ends up on the floor and you feel disrespected? You must be American.

I've been through that airport 20+ times over the last few years. It's never taken me more than 15 minutes from start to finish to get a visa.

Sure, it looks a bit disorganised at times but it actually works. Simple process really. Cue up with passport / photo / application form. Join another cue and wait till someone calls out your name and holds up your passport. Pay $20. Bingo.

Never seen my passport end up on the floor, nor would I care if it did.

On average it takes me longer to get through Swampy in Bangkok than it takes me to get through Pochentong.

Get over it or stay home.

FruitNinja
01-29-13, 05:35
Geez, it appears we have some precious spoilt whinging brats on board.

Your passport ends up on the floor and you feel disrespected? You must be American.

I've been through that airport 20+ times over the last few years. It's never taken me more than 15 minutes from start to finish to get a visa.

Sure, it looks a bit disorganised at times but it actually works. Simple process really. Cue up with passport / photo / application form. Join another cue and wait till someone calls out your name and holds up your passport. Pay $20. Bingo.

Never seen my passport end up on the floor, nor would I care if it did.

On average it takes me longer to get through Swampy in Bangkok than it takes me to get through Pochentong.

Get over it or stay home.This had to be one of the easiest entrances I've done. You should try Columbia, Cuba, or one of the Communist countries when there was Communism in Europe. Those were always fun with a US passport. Ha!

FruitNinja
01-29-13, 06:08
I didn't quite see the same PP Mackin saw. Yes the place is dirty but what would you expect from a third world country. You should see Cuba. Try some of theback alleys of HCMC. It's all third world. Cuba, same thing.

What I did like was the playfulness of the girls. Not quite to Filipina standards but they are playful. Much more so than HCMC. I think GFE is few and far apart here. Seems tome that a lot of the girls are off the farm and there is some stigma with P4P. They do not like to kiss if they don't feel comfortable with you. Ost do not like Yam Yam. If you pull out a vibrator most have no idea what it is nor do they understand the tingly feeling between their legs. I think a lot may have come via chicken farm and that's a wham-bam-thank you mam type of P4P. These are my thoughts. Might be right might be wron.

Didn't see much around the riverfront and what I did see I would not touch with Rick Rocks dick. Same goes for Walkabout. We hit HOD and Pontoon but not late enough and too tired to wait for it to be late enough. Pontoon looked very upscale. If I had more time I would have liked to check it out.

I stayed at the Lux riverfront in a suite for $70 Very very nice. They have amazing rooms for $50 s guys staying in dumps fro $35 take note. Great breakfast was included. I read a report on tripadvisor about tuk tuks being a problem in fornt of the place but jeez it's Asia. They are a problem you just ignore.

My best pulls were from Rose on 104th. There was nothing to my liking at Airforce. There are Ladyboys at Candy on 136th. But there are also some very nice looking ladies. The smaller bars have their gems as well. I pulled a stunner from Pussy Cat but she was a starfish. I enjoyed it anyway as she was tight and beautiful. Either you give me GFE or I pound you to submission. Either way I have a good time.

Prices on 136th can be negotiated to 10+30 for ST. 104th street was usually 10+40-50. Really not bad for the caliber of the girls I was pulling.

They do not like photos.

In SR right now. Going to maybe check out a place tonight. Went to the Doghouse at 11:30 and it was DEAD.

FreebieFan
01-29-13, 07:29
Geez, it appears we have some precious spoilt whinging brats on board.

Your passport ends up on the floor and you feel disrespected? You must be American.

I've been through that airport 20+ times over the last few years. It's never taken me more than 15 minutes from start to finish to get a visa.

Sure, it looks a bit disorganised at times but it actually works. Simple process really. Cue up with passport / photo / application form. Join another cue and wait till someone calls out your name and holds up your passport. Pay $20. Bingo.

Never seen my passport end up on the floor, nor would I care if it did.

On average it takes me longer to get through Swampy in Bangkok than it takes me to get through Pochentong.

Get over it or stay home.Wow. Didn't have your coffee this morning?

Actually and most deifenately not American. But you don't seem the type to let your opinion get in the way of a fact.

Glad all your entries have been smooth. Care to lend me your passport so I can step on it a tad. Yours must be pretty worthless that you don't give a toss.

Leftfield1965
01-29-13, 07:41
Wow. Didn't have your coffee this morning?

Actually and most deifenately not American. But you don't seem the type to let your opinion get in the way of a fact.

Glad all your entries have been smooth. Care to lend me your passport so I can step on it a tad. Yours must be pretty worthless that you don't give a toss.Nope. 2 coffees this morning, same as every day, thanks for asking.

I'll lend you my passport any day and you can step on it untill your hearts content, I couldn't give 2 flying fucks. To me a passport is a document that gets me in and out of various countries. Nothing more, nothing less.

But do tell me, why is your passport so precious to you?

Dboy
01-29-13, 12:07
I just heard today that the funeral ceremonies for the dead King will start Friday, Feb 1, and that 1 million people may attend. I'm in PP now, but I won't be one of them. I just bought a bus tkt to Snooky.

I was told that streets would be blocked, transportation would be a mess and that bar activity might (?) be limited. Anybody have better info?

Knight 1001
01-29-13, 12:28
Nope. 2 coffees this morning, same as every day, thanks for asking.

I'll lend you my passport any day and you can step on it untill your hearts content, I couldn't give 2 flying fucks. To me a passport is a document that gets me in and out of various countries. Nothing more, nothing less.

But do tell me, why is your passport so precious to you?Guys, guys,

If you want to quarrel and insult each other, this is definitely not the right place. Here we share information pertaining to a common interrest, freely and in the most amicable manner while at the same time respecting each other. So I would urge you to burry the war hatchet and get back to letting us know how we can enjoy ourselves and or how we could help you achieve that.

Just my 2 cents.

GooberMonger
01-29-13, 13:50
I just heard today that the funeral ceremonies for the dead King will start Friday, Feb 1, and that 1 million people may attend. I'm in PP now, but I won't be one of them. I just bought a bus tkt to Snooky.

I was told that streets would be blocked, transportation would be a mess and that bar activity might (?) be limited. Anybody have better info?Yup, I'm packing up for Kampot for the weekend.

Cheers

GooberMonger
01-29-13, 14:18
Guys, guys,

If you want to quarrel and insult each other, this is definitely not the right place. Here we share information pertaining to a common interrest, freely and in the most amicable manner while at the same time respecting each other. So I would urge you to burry the war hatchet and get back to letting us know how we can enjoy ourselves and or how we could help you achieve that.

Just my 2 cents.I go through like water off a ducks back, but I have a Visa in my passport. No pictures, lines, etc. Just show my Visa, stamp and staples a new Departure Card in my passport. OMG How dare he put holes in my passport. LMAO. Cambodia has to be one of the smoothest kayos running airports. Better than going through a hell of a lot of other countries I've been, for sure. Khmer people were voted the second most friendly people in the world. Everybody has an off day.

Now lets get back to mongering, speaking of I'm checking out a Karaoke Club / Disco that is for-sale right now. I'll keep you posted don't have shit for details, but guys these are the places to find some real sweat tasting girls. They may only go with a customer 1 / week or less even. It all caters to the rich Khmer mostly if it's like some others I've been in. It has 6 rooms and a Bar with disco. I'm getting my hopes up too soon but it could be oh so sweet, chances are low. Hell we all got to dream.

Say no more. Talk to you later my fellow mongers, don't hate the player and definitely don't hate the game. No haters.

Cheers

GooberMonger
01-29-13, 19:47
had to make this post or more of a rant maybe, but yang, pong, and all the other great girls that worked out at k11 this is missin you girls.

damn, i miss these girls and yes i did them every way i could. my memory isn't the best, but i thing they were in house 14 or 15. across the street from home away from home. they use to take runs back to vn every few months to take home money.

papalon would be hanging out at hafh most days. 20, 000r st and 10, 000r for the locals, shame they closed it down. worst thing most of the girls were fined and ended up on the street workin to pay the cops off, others were gang raped, and the fuckin ngo thought they did such a good thing.

i didn't even know they had ****d girls working there, but i wasn't lookin for that thing, so probably why i never seen it.

no, i think the worst thing is the place is still open, but now all they have are ****d girls. it's just all out of site now, or at least that was the case 5 or 6 years ago.

funny thing is that the place was built to service the 20, 000 un troops that were in cambodia, then it was the un and the usa after that gave the place such a bad name. i guess if the navy wasn't still docking in pattaya they'd be closing it down.

i use to get so pissed off too about msnbc showing the bust there like it was yesterday and the news was over 5 years old.

cambodia must have some of the toughest laws, when it comes to kids. no bullshit like the usa or other countries with gettin out in a few years. you get 25 years automatic. the usa policing the rest of the world when they have more child prostitutes than any other country.

if you are a peodaphile cambodia is the last country you want to be coming to; if your a monger and love dirty rotten working girls that love to suck cock like a good thing, god bless them. then your in the right place.

cheers,

Chairman
01-31-13, 08:30
I'm in Siem Reap now. Not much worth looking at in the bars. So what do you guys use to meet online? I've tried DIA. Met a very friendly one who drove me around on her motor all day. Didn't feel she was willing to play.

NspectHerGadgt
01-31-13, 10:31
I just heard today that the funeral ceremonies for the dead King will start Friday, Feb 1, and that 1 million people may attend.

I was told that streets would be blocked, transportation would be a mess and that bar activity might (?) be limited. Anybody have better info?On 104 Street, I visited Top Ten Bar. I recommend it for the talent there, although the bar mgmt is not too great. Just ignore them, and enjoy the girls. While chatting the chicks, they said the bars will not open on Feb 1 thru 5. Some of the girls said they are headed home for a break. Bleak news for us, so I'm trying to collect phone numbers from the ones staying in town!

Mackin
01-31-13, 20:11
My judgement is based on personal experience and not western standards. There are many countries with very good immigration but still 3rd world countries. I believe you must be from other than a western country to make such a useless coment. If you are treking up to embassies and waiting days and paying high fees, maybe you shouldn't go to those places as it is to much of a hassle.

I didn't realize I was capable of ill judged WINGES as it or they or not known to me or the dictionary. I only wrote about what I experienced. If yours is different, so be it.

Scorchin1470
01-31-13, 20:25
My judgement is based on personal experience and not western standards. There are many countries with very good immigration but still 3rd world countries. I believe you must be from other than a western country to make such a useless coment. If you are treking up to embassies and waiting days and paying high fees, maybe you shouldn't go to those places as it is to much of a hassle.

I didn't realize I was capable of ill judged WINGES as it or they or not known to me or the dictionary. I only wrote about what I experienced. If yours is different, so be it.First, I am from a European country.

Second, I have travelled widely and no I do not waste money on Embassy visits if VOA is available.

Third, The Cambodian, Phnom Penh airport, is no better and no worse that other countries. We all experience their system, we all get into the country.

And we all enjoy our visit.

If ten. Fifteen minutes of chaos offends you, try getting into the USA through Miami as a non-USA citizen. That is third world immigration!

GooberMonger
02-01-13, 06:06
I'm in Siem Reap now. Not much worth looking at in the bars. So what do you guys use to meet online? I've tried DIA. Met a very friendly one who drove me around on her motor all day. Didn't feel she was willing to play.I use Tagged met one of my present GFs on there, University girl, was 18 years old, but took about 1 month to get in her pants, which isn't that bad considering she was a virgin and now a dirty dirty little thing. 3-hole too, god bless her. Oh, and horny as hell now, but I put a lot of time in on her, no pun intended. She never had an orgasm before never masturbated, Thank god I have a vibrator because all the lickin and bangin wasn't gettin her there. Then after she had her first "O". Well now she just loves cock. Not the first or 5th virgin in PP, I've had with the same experience, bit of a pain in the ass, since I like working girls, but they are now.

The nice thing is I got BBFS now with 4 girls that were virgins and another that helps me find new girls. Took a good year to get it set-up but the one that helps me find new girls, she is a god send and she's not bad lookin just too old for me 27 now and I'm a 18-24 then out the door kind of guy. I do still give her a good shag once a month though, just because she's GF3 and swallows, love those birds.

Got a couple others off tagged too, and met up, but there pics where far better looking than them.

Cheers,

GM

GooberMonger
02-01-13, 06:15
If ten. Fifteen minutes of chaos offends you, try getting into the USA through Miami as a non-USA citizen. That is third world immigration!I hear you there, I don't even go through the US if at all possible. Customs and Immigration Officers are on steroids or some power trip. Fuck That!

FreebieFan
02-01-13, 07:37
try getting into the usa through miami as a non-usa citizen. that is third world immigration!totally in agreement. new york kennedy isn't exactly a breeze through either (last time 55 minutes)

lax in the afternoon when all asian flights arrive can and was 75 minutes last time (inlcuding the lard assed ladies literally shouting at anyone hapless enough to not know which line to use ). tokyo can be a 60 minute wait early evening.

strangest was standing in a line in manila airport at 4am that lasted an hour. usually flights arriving at that time are staggered. on this ocassion they coincided. and the 2 sleepy officials werent breaking any speed stamping records that day.

Rick Rock
02-01-13, 08:57
And we all enjoy our visit.Who is we? I would say around 20% of the posts made in the last six months contain complaints or recommendations against visiting Phnom Penh, mine included.

FruitNinja
02-01-13, 10:49
I just heard today that the funeral ceremonies for the dead King will start Friday, Feb 1, and that 1 million people may attend. I'm in PP now, but I won't be one of them. I just bought a bus tkt to Snooky.

I was told that streets would be blocked, transportation would be a mess and that bar activity might (?) be limited. Anybody have better info?When we were there I woke up one morning to hear a band or something. Went out after breakfast and the riverfront road was closed and cops all over. They said that was a practice for the ceremonies. Did you get Bob out of the country?

I just had an afternoon room massage at my hotel. Nice. After she was done she poked my cock with her finger and wanted to boom boom, I told her only BJ. She seemed sad but gave a very nice BJ. Tota cost? Not quite Vietnam prices but damn close. Set it up through the hotel.

I'm guessing you're not heading this way.

Enjoy the trip,

FN

FruitNinja
02-01-13, 11:03
Who is we? I would say around 20% of the posts made in the last six months contain complaints or recommendations against visiting Phnom Penh, mine included.When are you going to learn how to quote properly so that the rest of us know what the hell your talking about. Not that there's much content but it's good to know who you're quoting. It's pretty rudimentary, maybe Jackson can start offering a beginners course on posting etiquette.

You and your cohorts fancy yourselves pretty important don't you."mine included." The famous RR says that Cambo is no good so I guess we should all stay away. You guys are so full of yourselves you crack me up. Do you have a dummy account like the Mutant Pigeon so you can atta boy yourself too?

Guys! Cambo is not AC or for that matter Pats but fun can be had. One of our group who is a know monger and almost single handedly responsible for US mongers going to Columbia says he loved the girls in Cambo. I've been all over the world and there is definitely something about these Khmer girls. The look is totally different. They are fun and playful. You will not get GFE if you don't engage them. If you engage them you will be fine.

There is no one size fits all. I was amazed at the times I got rebuffed in AC. Dumbfounded actually because the 21 year old I have at home is hotter than 90% of the bar girls. I couldn't get / score that top end in AC. Does that mean AC sucked? Heck no. I had a blast.

Viva Le Asia

Mr Enternational
02-01-13, 12:31
There is no one size fits all.
That is definitely the third rule of mongering.

1. Make sure anything you do not want to go missing is locked up.

2. Secure price, time, and activities to be performed if in unfamiliar territory.

3. Your mileage may vary, so do your best to make your own fun.

I had a good time mongering in PP as well. Does that mean I will go back? Probably not. But I have no regrets nor complaints (except for the white blinds not blocking out the sunlight in my hotel room. But I got over that).

AussieGuy100
02-02-13, 01:21
There is no one size fits all. I was amazed at the times I got rebuffed in AC. Dumbfounded actually because the 21 year old I have at home is hotter than 90% of the bar girls. I couldn't get / score that top end in AC. Does that mean AC sucked? Heck no. I had a blast.

Viva Le AsiaTotally agree. I'm on my first trip to Angeles now from PP. Yes there are thousands of girls in the bars here but quite a few of the reasonable or hot ones turn you down or seem indifferent. I'm already missing the quirky but oh so sexy Khmer girls.

Wendella
02-02-13, 09:56
Very quick to criticise a country you obviously know little about because you judge it purely on western standards.

Getting a visa is a damn sight easier than trekking up to an embassy, waiting days and paying a fortune.

As to the rest of your earlier post. Just an ill-judged winge. Apart from your rightful comment on Walkabout.I'm not sure it's "western standards" he's talking about really. Japan and Korea are first-world countries taht would never tolerate the half-assed way things are run at the airport's immigration. But then again, I think more than 98% of us come from western countries, mostly English speaking ones, so its to be expected that those members judge things by their own standards, which are probably western because you form your standards as you grow up, and if you are born in a place in the west, those stnandards are going to be western.

He had no choice but to criticize quickly, he was a tourist just there a few days. It's not a requirement that anyone posting in this thread spend months or years in the country before posting. The views of any kind of visitor (and even people who haven't visited yet) are equally relevant and welcome here. If all he knows about Cambodia are the few annoying things that happened to him when he visited, that's as valid here as anything said by a guy who's been there since 1990 (and I've seen some of those types say some pretty nutty things here). Nothing he said seemed too far off the mark. If people are allowed to come here and talk something up, they should also be just as free to come here and talk something down.

Wendella
02-02-13, 10:09
There are Ladyboys at Candy on 136th. But there are also some very nice looking ladies. The smaller bars have their gems as well.To me this is always a non-issue. I could see if the LB's were immediately jumping in customers' laps and trying to french kiss them, but if they're out there in the bar somewhere just going about their own business, whats the problem. I'm there to hook up with a genuine girl, so that's what I seek out for company. I see a LB, I just don't have a drink with him, and that's that. He can go sit with someone who's into that. Everybody ends up happy.

If the LBs were in customers' faces, then yeah ok then that could be a problem. I never saw that though. But maybe I'm wrong and that's what they do, and feel free to correct me if that's the case.

Wendella
02-02-13, 10:27
I already have answered some time because I post so little on the forum , but obviously you do not read all posts. Then, I have done some travel report about some countries. Check! Let me a question. I will reply.OK, so did you find some good spots in Papua New Guinea? Can you tell us more about that place?

FoxesHunter
02-02-13, 10:40
OK, so did you find some good spots in Papua New Guinea? Can you tell us more about that place?Ok! I went to West Papua and precisely I arrived in Wamena town. It is a small town where everything is wild, even women. I slept at a small hotel (I don't remember its name) and the receptionist girl asked me if I liked play with her in the night.... but I was so tired and I answered it was impossible. She was enough beautiful for the local standard. At Wamena town there are enough Chinese girls and they are more beautiful than papuan girls. Papuan girls are very ugly and it was funny when I asked to local boys and men in Wamena if they liked more to fuck a papuan or chinese girl. All they answered me they like more papuan girls. They told me papuan girls are wonderful. I stop here my post because West Papua is not a mongering place and here I'm OT. But I know much about this country. Other questions?

Rick Rock
02-02-13, 10:40
Wendella is the voice of reason here as is often true.

Wendella
02-02-13, 10:59
But I know much about this country. Other questions?It doesn't make me want to rush off to PNG any time soon, but it sure sounds like you really were there. Your reply showed up minutes after I posted my question.

I have a lot of posts up here but haven't put up "field reports" either. What is a field report any way? Is that like a moment by moment account of a whole night's exprience with all the nitty gritty details? If so, I think very few or possibly none of my reports are like that. So if that's what it takes to prove you really travel and visit places, well, I think some people just don't write those kinds of reports.

Sorry I can't really answer your question about Cambodia though. The guys who live there or visit a lot can probably answer you. I only go to Cambodia once every few years, and I don't bother with the kind of thing you want to do.

Thanks RR, a nice compliment. And I vaguely remember us actually disagreeing here about something awhile back, can't remember what it was (or even care to find out).

But FH's orignal question was how hard it is for someone like him (55 yrs old) to pick up regular non-working girls in Phnom Penh.

FruitNinja
02-02-13, 12:17
To me this is always a non-issue. I could see if the LB's were immediately jumping in customers' laps and trying to french kiss them, but if they're out there in the bar somewhere just going about their own business, whats the problem. I'm there to hook up with a genuine girl, so that's what I seek out for company. I see a LB, I just don't have a drink with him, and that's that. He can go sit with someone who's into that. Everybody ends up happy.

If the LBs were in customers' faces, then yeah ok then that could be a problem. I never saw that though. But maybe I'm wrong and that's what they do, and feel free to correct me if that's the case.I didn't find it bothersome at all. The real girls were giggling about it but thats it. I never pulled anything out of the but my buddy tried. She stood him up twice in a row.

GooberMonger
02-02-13, 13:00
Hello, I'd like to know Cambodia more and more. I'm a 55 years old man and I'd like to know how much is easy to approach some regular girls and to get sex with them.

I thank you!FN are you living in PP or just extended stay? As you call them regular girls are 90% of my mongering, it's a whole new game. Can an old dog learn new tricks, hell ya.

First your chances are greatly reduced if you can't speak K'mai; if you can," Who raw!"

Knight 1001
02-02-13, 16:53
Totally agree. I'm on my first trip to Angeles now from PP. Yes there are thousands of girls in the bars here but quite a few of the reasonable or hot ones turn you down or seem indifferent. I'm already missing the quirky but oh so sexy Khmer girls.Then come back to us sooner hehehe and we'll have a blast ....

FoxesHunter
02-02-13, 17:05
Then come back to us sooner hehehe and we'll have a blast .Some years ago I was one week at AC. I did not like this place at all. People tell it is a great place to monger but I see it as bad, sad, small and depressing.

Mr Enternational
02-02-13, 22:39
It doesn't make me want to rush off to PNG any time soon, but it sure sounds like you really were there. Your reply showed up minutes after I posted my question.

I have a lot of posts up here but haven't put up "field reports" either. What is a field report any way? Is that like a moment by moment account of a whole night's exprience with all the nitty gritty details? If so, I think very few or possibly none of my reports are like that. So if that's what it takes to prove you really travel and visit places, well, I think some people just don't write those kinds of reports.By the same token you do not just pop up in various threads and only ask the same annoying questions in each one. I think it would be better to say "exchange of information" rather than field report, as in the information you have just provided about LBs at Candy on 136th. Some people come on this board in stealth and only take the information they need, but you would never know that because they have never posted anything whatsoever. Then there are others who come and ask a myriad of questions as if they are doing research for a dissertation, but are never bothered to provide any information in return. It's just like the convenience store; take a penny, give a penny. And people get fed up when they can see a poster repeatedly taking or rather soliciting information throughout various threads but never giving any in return.

GooberMonger
02-03-13, 17:37
FH what's up I give you an answer to your question or at least a partial answer. Then I get no reply back, so obviously it wasn't a serious question.

Please tell me FH that English is a second language to you or maybe your illiterate, because your grammar is terrible or your 12 years old and trying to learn to be a man.

Don't waste peoples time please by putting up questions that you have no use for the information. There are others that could have a use for that information; we're here to help each other by sharing information if someone has a need or making interesting, informative, exciting and erotic reports on working girls, LBFMs, hotels, scams, experiences etc.

Your not a monger or even a player; correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you should be playing video games and riding your BMX bike, not trying to learn about things you can't comprehend. Do to your immaturity or illiteracy.

Sorry something stinks and it ain't the taint.

Shadow6491
02-04-13, 00:39
Hello, I'd like to know Cambodia more and more. I'm a 55 years old man and I'd like to know how much is easy to approach some regular girls and to get sex with them.

I thank you!Good reply Wendella.

The truth is you will never come to Cambodia and pick up a regular girl and have sex with them. Period.

You may get a grey girl that is one that works in a restaurant that dabbles on the fringe of barangs after a year of knowing here and dating. But no girl of virgin status and that normally means young from a respectable family will ever go out with a barang. Why because? It will be assumed by everyone else in her country that she is a working girl. Even if she isn't She has sold herelf out at least on a patriotic level. So it will always be a black mark against her.

This is not noticeable and will never be mentioned but it is there below the surface.

Secondly why would you want to go to another country and try and have sex with a regular girl? Are you going to marry her? If you don't you have ruined her life? She can never marry a respectable local.

Go to Cambodia and meet working girls they don't have to be hardened pros but at least they have already ended up in that field or class if you like.

FoxesHunter
02-04-13, 08:26
The truth is you will never come to Cambodia and pick up a regular girl and have sex with them. Period.I know 4 language besides my mother tongue but I do not speak well none of these languages. I'm sorry. I don't know cambodian culture like you and I understand by your reply how much difficult and slow in the time can be to fuck a regualar girl, even if I never have told you I like to find a virgin.


Secondly why would you want to go to another country and try and have sex with a regular girl? Are you going to marry her? If you don't you have ruined her life? She can never marry a respectable local.I'd like to find regular girls because I don't like pro girls. Why? Because I feel a more complete and enjoyable experience. And I think it is the same for the fucking girl. When I went to Venezuela with a regular girl I get a wonderful experience. She repeatedly liked to fuck with me and she liked to get sex with me a lot. It was a vibrant experience. I remember when I get an orgasm before her, she wanted I masturbated her to get orgasm with my fingers. It was hard for me because I was very tired but these experience was amazing. I understand Cambodia is a different country but I think my question is a fair question. May be is Thailand more open-minded with their culture and easier to fuck regular girls?

Repeat: I know many countries around the world and I'd like to compare them with unknown countries as Cambodia.


Go to Cambodia and meet working girls they don't have to be hardened pros but at least they have already ended up in that field or class if you like.Now I understand fine and I think Cambodia will not be a vibrantt experience.

Thanks

FoxesHunter
02-04-13, 08:36
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Shadow6491
02-05-13, 04:36
Some years ago I was one week at AC. I did not like this place at all. People tell it is a great place to monger but I see it as bad, sad, small and depressing.If you thought AC was sad small and depressing. Then your statement "Now I understand fine and I think Cambodia will not be a vibrantt experience." will be absolutely correct. There are no bars in Cambodia with the level of entertainment that is available in AC.

Luvpuss
02-05-13, 05:47
Seems like many chose Cambos because,"it is cheaper".

That is so bogus really. Either get a better job or save your money. Cambo is a dump for cheap skates or dudes that never really made a dime in their life. Thailand is 10 times the place to monger and have a good time, than Cambodia or AC or whatever.

Joyra
02-05-13, 10:19
Seems like many chose Cambos because,"it is cheaper".

That is so bogus really. Either get a better job or save your money. Cambo is a dump for cheap skates or dudes that never really made a dime in their life. Thailand is 10 times the place to monger and have a good time, than Cambodia or AC or whatever.I have been to PP many times and my mongering experience has been really good. In my opinion, you get all varieties in Cambodia. If you pay well, you do get good stuff. I have never gone for cheap ones but have never over paid too. Usually, I have picked girls based on references or from the casino in NagaWorld. Believe me, there are some really good ones in Naga Casion. 24/7!

2 weeks back I had the pleasure of a Viet girl whom I met at Naga Casino. She was wonderful. Nice attitude, good looking, warm, friendly, GFE.

Well, Thailand a a much better bar scene, but then, when stuck in Cambodia, need to look for the best ones to have fun!

Cheers!

FruitNinja
02-05-13, 10:36
Seems like many chose Cambos because,"it is cheaper".

That is so bogus really. Either get a better job or save your money. Cambo is a dump for cheap skates or dudes that never really made a dime in their life. Thailand is 10 times the place to monger and have a good time, than Cambodia or AC or whatever.I'm in Thailand right now and it's very nice. I like Soi Cowboy. Seems better than Nana or at least to me. Pattaya was a blast and quite frankly not that expensive. There are a lot of beach road girls available if one is patient and there are some very nice girls at the bars. I'm certainly not an expert on BKK but so far it doesn't look like you'll get the GFE that you get in AC. Having said that #24 from Annie's and Nuru rocked my world last night for two hours and that's after me screwing at least once a day for the last 3+ weeks. And I thought I was tired.

But to bash Cambodia and AC and say it's for cheapskates (one word) because you don't like it is insulting. I've been to AC, Manila, HCMC, Pattaya, and now BKK. They all have merits. I even like it back in the US but I've got a niche market carved out for myself. All 20 somethings and most for what I pay in BKK.

I get a kick out of you guys that think there is only one way, your way. Weren't you one of the guys complaining about newbies running up prices?

FreebieFan
02-05-13, 10:44
Seems like many chose Cambos because,"it is cheaper".

Cambo is a dump for cheap skates or dudes that never really made a dime in their life. Thailand is 10 times the place to monger and have a good time, than Cambodia or AC or whatever.Going there next week, and its certainly not because the country is cheap or because I'm cheap. And I've surely made many dimes and pennies and punts and peso and picatas and reals in my life. I will be a nice alternative destination for Chinese New Year.

So maybe learn to accept that its not only your opinion that counts here.

There are a great many others whos opinions are perhaps less strident, but are way more interesting.

FruitNinja
02-05-13, 10:45
FN are you living in PP or just extended stay? As you call them regular girls are 90% of my mongering, it's a whole new game. Can an old dog learn new tricks, hell ya.

First your chances are greatly reduced if you can't speak K'mai; if you can," Who raw!"Seeing if I can get in any trouble. I did and I enjoyed it. It wasn't AC or Pattaya, or BKK but it had something likable about it. Yes' it's a dump, but by the standard of where I live 80% of BKK is a dump. I'm looking for girls. Don't really care too much about the surroundings.

We all like something different. My favorite city was HCMC. The mongering was ok but I can see where if it became a regular destination that can be improved greatly.

Betong
02-05-13, 12:20
Cambo is a dump for cheap skates or dudes that never really made a dime in their life.Cambodia is for all kinds of people. Including those of us who have lived and played in Thailand for many, many years and like Cambodia because so many of the girls remind us of the way they used to be in Thailand: less commercial, less jaded, often more fun.

Nobody has to like Cambodia, and in fact it's better if most tourist mongers don't. But please spare us the ignorant slurs.

Tiger 888
02-05-13, 13:02
...It will be a nice alternative destination for Chinese New Year...It will not be a complete escape, because there are quite a number of Chinese and Vietnamese who celebrate. I did that last year and was quite surprised. But of course a lot less that in China / Vietnam.

FruitNinja
02-05-13, 13:16
Cambodia is for all kinds of people. Including those of us who have lived and played in Thailand for many, many years and like Cambodia because so many of the girls remind us of the way they used to be in Thailand: less commercial, less jaded, often more fun.

Nobody has to like Cambodia, and in fact it's better if most tourist mongers don't. But please spare us the ignorant slurs.I'm actually quite amazed at how people are so closed minded. Because they went and had a bad time, couldn't get their game on, and had a bad time they are convinced that it's no good. And are pretty adamant that nobody else could possibly enjoy something they didn't because of course the world revolves around them. My way is the only way. Quite a singular view of life. Now I might have liked HCMC better for a number of reasons, not all monger related but I would never tell others what to do. There is no one size fits all. Cup half full or half empty? I can have fun anywhere. And the best blow jobs I have ver had have been from fat girls but most discount them. It's OK.

FoxesHunter
02-05-13, 14:25
I declare beforehand I'm curious to visit Pattaya but I think never would go there. I don't drink alchool nor beer and I don't like bars. Some years ago I went to AC and it was depressing and bored. Then..... I think Pattaya girls are tired, exploiting by sex and it is impossible to get a pleasure from them when you fuck them. I've never been in Phnom Penh but I think it is possible to find different girls. I think they are more curious about sex than Pattaya girls. I think to get sex with a Cambodian girl is more relaxing and pleasant. Do I make a mistake?

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02-05-13, 16:44
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D Cups
02-06-13, 02:15
FN, you are right. The fat girls HAVE be good at BJs because it's the only dick they get! As far as cups hehe, I prefer them D size or better but on a small frame, please!

Backtobasics
02-06-13, 15:20
Not wanting to be branded as a bottom-feeder, yet still curious enough to ask. Is trawling for freelancers at Sorya Mall only likely to net skanks, or is there enough variety to make it a worthwhile place to monger?

Leftfield1965
02-06-13, 16:57
Not wanting to be branded as a bottom-feeder, yet still curious enough to ask. Is trawling for freelancers at Sorya Mall only likely to net skanks, or is there enough variety to make it a worthwhile place to monger?It's a pretty skanky place, picture Walkabout x.

About a month ago, when I was last in PP I spent a few hours of most of my nights there. Never saw anything that I was remotely interested in. Skank after skank. Untill my last night, when I saw at least half a dozen chicks that I would've happily boned if the GF had allowed me.

Quite a few ladyboys there now too, shitloads of ice / yama heads. It's certainly a bit of a zoo.

GooberMonger
02-06-13, 18:44
Not wanting to be branded as a bottom-feeder, yet still curious enough to ask. Is trawling for freelancers at Sorya Mall only likely to net skanks, or is there enough variety to make it a worthwhile place to monger?I've pulled some lookers out of some seedy area before, especially with Cambodia you never know, but it's nothing for me other than just a drive by for a look, wouldn't waste much time there.

For something no one has mentioned or I've seen, take a look at the back of The Royal Phnom Penh Hotel by what Phnom. I haven't been there in a bit, but last time I was there they had some nice VN and Chinese girls. Real lookers most of them; they were a little expensive by Cambodia standards, but cheap compared to equal quality in Thailand.

Had a real nice Chinese girl $100, but hell my last trip to pats 1000 baht bar fine and 2000 baht for the girl and she wouldn't BBBJ.

Was in BKK a couple months ago and had a great time at Soi Cowboy, but I'm one of those cheapskates that lives in Phnom Penh.

Yeah, my Villa is cheaper, my maid is cheaper, my security is cheaper, my Mercedes is cheaper, sitting in a Karaoke bar with a couple girls drinking Johnny Walker Gold is cheaper, but the quality of it all is just as good as any other country in the world. All that money that I save I use for mongering and travelling.

Cheers

Rexy123
02-07-13, 00:09
Nothing wrong with feeding on the bottom.


Quote Originally Posted by Backtobasics [View Original Post]

Not wanting to be branded as a bottom-feeder, yet still curious enough to ask. Is trawling for freelancers at Sorya Mall only likely to net skanks, or is there enough variety to make it a worthwhile place to monger?

I've pulled some lookers out of some seedy area before, especially with Cambodia you never know, but it's nothing for me other than just a drive by for a look, wouldn't waste much time there.

For something no one has mentioned or I've seen, take a look at the back of The Royal Phnom Penh Hotel by what Phnom. I haven't been there in a bit, but last time I was there they had some nice VN and Chinese girls. Real lookers most of them; they were a little expensive by Cambodia standards, but cheap compared to equal quality in Thailand.

Had a real nice Chinese girl $100, but hell my last trip to pats 1000 baht bar fine and 2000 baht for the girl and she wouldn't BBBJ.

Was in BKK a couple months ago and had a great time at Soi Cowboy, but I'm one of those cheapskates that lives in Phnom Penh.

Yeah, my Villa is cheaper, my maid is cheaper, my security is cheaper, my Mercedes is cheaper, sitting in a Karaoke bar with a couple girls drinking Johnny Walker Gold is cheaper, but the quality of it all is just as good as any other country in the world. All that money that I save I use for mongering and travelling.

CheersHi there,

Is "the back of the Royal Phnom Penh Hotel " a bar?

I've been to Phnom Penh quite a bit but have stuck so far to bars on 136, 104 and discos like Heart of Darkness.

Thanks

Backtobasics
02-07-13, 09:57
It's a pretty skanky place, picture Walkabout x.

About a month ago, when I was last in PP I spent a few hours of most of my nights there. Never saw anything that I was remotely interested in. Skank after skank. Untill my last night, when I saw at least half a dozen chicks that I would've happily boned if the GF had allowed me.

Quite a few ladyboys there now too, shitloads of ice / yama heads. It's certainly a bit of a zoo.Many thanks, or should I say, many skanks? .

AussieGuy100
02-07-13, 10:05
Not wanting to be branded as a bottom-feeder, yet still curious enough to ask. Is trawling for freelancers at Sorya Mall only likely to net skanks, or is there enough variety to make it a worthwhile place to monger?I think Sorya Mall (tell tuk tuk drivers "sor-ya mo") is a great place for watching life go by. Go there after 11pm and there are usually forty plus freelancers wandering around. Yes a lot I wouldn't touch. Scarily thin and / or drugged up, but occasionally there are a few good ones. $20-25 LT. Or go there about 3am and you can often find a reasonable girl who will go with you LT for $10 just because they want a decent bed for the night. A friend of mine got one for $7. 50 but I personally think that's insulting the girl.

AussieGuy100
02-07-13, 10:14
"for something no one has mentioned or i've seen, take a look at the back of the royal phnom penh hotel by what phnom. i haven't been there in a bit, but last time i was there they had some nice vn and chinese girls. real lookers most of them; they were a little expensive by cambodia standards, but cheap compared to equal quality in thailand."

just don't confuse them with the girls standing around actually at wat phnom! these are the $10 girls with pimps on hand. cheap, not very beautiful, sometimes **** and often try to scam you by asking for the money up front. if you pay them first, they just hop on a moto with their pimp and leave you standing there! money gone, lesson learned. same with the girls on street 106 nearby (in the two blocks either side of norodom street) , next to the park. often tempting, but be wary of pre-payment.

GooberMonger
02-07-13, 21:53
"for something no one has mentioned or i've seen, take a look at the back of the royal phnom penh hotel by what phnom. i haven't been there in a bit, but last time i was there they had some nice vn and chinese girls. real lookers most of them; they were a little expensive by cambodia standards, but cheap compared to equal quality in thailand."

just don't confuse them with the girls standing around actually at what phnom! these are the $10 girls with pimps on hand. cheap, not very beautiful, sometimes **** and often try to scam you by asking for the money up front. if you pay them first, they just hop on a moto with their pimp and leave you standing there! money gone, lesson learned. same with the girls on street 106 nearby (in the two blocks either side of norodom street) , next to the park. often tempting, but be wary of pre-payment.good advice aussie, stay away from the fl in those areas and around independent monument, they're mostly running every scam and rip off under the sun. you'll get a cheap girl, but wake up with your stuff all gone and not remembering a thing.

i even got burned by a girl from walkabout many years ago. i guess she didn't know i lived here, it was only $50, but i just waited until i ran into her again and i did. it was the day time and i was sitting in walkabout having something to eat and talkin to a friend. bang there she was on the corner across the street with a couple barangs. i got up ran outside and met her with her two bf or whatever they were and told the two guys that were with her that they could do whatever they wanted to with her and i had paid for it already.

i come back smile at the security guard he smiles back, no problems. he likes me, i always tip him well. i could have dragged her across the street and punched her teeth out and he wouldn't have said boo to me. i haven't been there in a long time now.

phnom penh has so many beer gardens and karaoke clubs now, that have way better quality girls, just they aren't working in the red light area so to speak, because they can't speak a word of english and they're new to phnom penh, but love barangs. like 90% of the girls they love white skin the same as the guys love white skinned girls. so it you like lbfms it's the place to find some cuties that haven't been used and abused. only thing is you need to speak the language. a tuk tuk or moto driver can help you to a point, but most of the girls like to keep things on the down low. i think it's because they don't want to have others look down at them. some of them you might have to visit a couple times too, before you'll get anywhere with her. others you won't get anywhere, but go for the beer girls they're easier; the hostesses are usually the real lookers, but you need to speak k'mai or forget it. well can't really say that because i have come across a few that can speak english and are working there for money to pay for their education. oh, they also get tipped well just for their company with customers. so this is another reason you need to speak the language. then you know if your wasting your time and money or your going to have a good gfe.

it sucks because a lot of guys visiting for some mongering in cambodia don't get the chance to check out all the country has to offer.

happy mongering,

Dante2
02-09-13, 08:01
I keep reading posts about khmer girls liking to give head, my experience has been the complete opposite.

Many refuse to do it. 90% of the ones that do can't handle doing it for more than 15 seconds at a time and keep stopping and blotting the pre-cum with a towel, use way to much hand, or stop after 2 minutes.

I've been with 30+ girls in cambo which isn't a ton but its a decent number, maybe I've just been unlucky, maybe the ones who post it have been lucky, just sayin YMMV.

Rexy123
02-09-13, 08:26
Well,

Have a better picture now of scene outside usual bar areas. My Cambodian not too good (at all!) but will watch my step if I do take a look around that area behind Royal Phnom Penh Hotel. No contribution by me as of yet but after next trip will see if I can add anything.

Cheers

Pinche Gringo
02-10-13, 02:32
In the past 5 years, I have spent a total of 8 months in Cambodia, from PP to Ratankiri in the northeast portion, the Sville and every in between. I have taken ladies from the karaokes (KTV's) bar girls, and girls that I have met on dating sites. None of the Khmer ladies would provide BJ's. The only ones that provide BJ's are the girls from Vietnam and that was only about 50.

But, YMMV with the ladies you find.

QUOTE=Dante2; 1384262]I keep reading posts about khmer girls liking to give head, my experience has been the complete opposite.

Many refuse to do it. 90% of the ones that do can't handle doing it for more than 15 seconds at a time and keep stopping and blotting the pre-cum with a towel, use way to much hand, or stop after 2 minutes.

I've been with 30+ girls in cambo which isn't a ton but its a decent number, maybe I've just been unlucky, maybe the ones who post it have been lucky, just sayin YMMV.[/QUOTE]

AussieGuy100
02-10-13, 06:26
I keep reading posts about khmer girls liking to give head, my experience has been the complete opposite.

Many refuse to do it. 90% of the ones that do can't handle doing it for more than 15 seconds at a time and keep stopping and blotting the pre-cum with a towel, use way to much hand, or stop after 2 minutes.

I've been with 30+ girls in cambo which isn't a ton but its a decent number, maybe I've just been unlucky, maybe the ones who post it have been lucky, just sayin YMMV.This has generally been my experience too. I'd guess about 20% will do BBBJ. If that's what you want, just make sure you ask them before you agree to take them. And yes the constant blotting seems to be a Khmer quirk. It's certainly not the case in Angeles, where I am at the moment. Almost all the girls here gobble like crazy. The other day I had a newbie who was obviously keen to please by giving a BJ, but kept having to go to the bathroom every few minutes to retch!

Rick Rock
02-10-13, 08:13
That's one complaint I don't have. I've been through about 30 girls in Cambodia now. Every single one has done BBBJ without complaint or me even asking. Only 4 were Viet. The rest were Cambodian. This includes one girl at a "legitimate" massage place who went down on me when I flipped and was hard as a rock. She didn't even ask! Just put it in her mouth. Plus two non-pros. Also had a girl from Cyrcee demand that she give me BBBJCIM after I already had a session with her and two other girls I took out of there. I insisted I couldn't cum again and she said she'd prove I could. Actually couldn't believe that one from a Cyrcee girl who I expected to be very hardened (and indeed some of the girls I've taken out of there have been).

I also disagree that it's tough or even impossible to get non-pros in Cambodia. I was only there for 3 weeks on work. Took two totally regular girls to bed. One was a school teacher I met on Facebook who ended up giving me a BBBJ followed by hand relief while we tongue kissed (she wasn't "ready" for me to put it in) on our second date. The other was a bank teller who I had to deal with regularly with some work stuff. Took her to see the nice furnished apartment I was given by work on the third date and she literally begged me to sleep over. Kissing led to touching which led to bareback sex.

Most of the BJs were mediocre and one was even terrible, but no refusals whatsoever. Some were actually very good. Two girls actually did deep throat! Who the hell taught them that? Most of the girls came out of hostess bars on 104, but Cyrcee, Nay Nay and Martinis were also regular haunts.

Pinche Gringo
02-11-13, 04:41
Maybe I am just too old and ugly. Although, all the ladies do call me "pros at".


That's one complaint I don't have. I've been through about 30 girls in Cambodia now. Every single one has done BBBJ without complaint or me even asking. Only 4 were Viet. The rest were Cambodian. This includes one girl at a "legitimate" massage place who went down on me when I flipped and was hard as a rock. She didn't even ask! Just put it in her mouth. Plus two non-pros. Also had a girl from Cyrcee demand that she give me BBBJCIM after I already had a session with her and two other girls I took out of there. I insisted I couldn't cum again and she said she'd prove I could. Actually couldn't believe that one from a Cyrcee girl who I expected to be very hardened (and indeed some of the girls I've taken out of there have been).

I also disagree that it's tough or even impossible to get non-pros in Cambodia. I was only there for 3 weeks on work. Took two totally regular girls to bed. One was a school teacher I met on Facebook who ended up giving me a BBBJ followed by hand relief while we tongue kissed (she wasn't "ready" for me to put it in) on our second date. The other was a bank teller who I had to deal with regularly with some work stuff. Took her to see the nice furnished apartment I was given by work on the third date and she literally begged me to sleep over. Kissing led to touching which led to bareback sex.

Most of the BJs were mediocre and one was even terrible, but no refusals whatsoever. Some were actually very good. Two girls actually did deep throat! Who the hell taught them that? Most of the girls came out of hostess bars on 104, but Cyrcee, Nay Nay and Martinis were also regular haunts.

GooberMonger
02-11-13, 19:24
That's one complaint I don't have. I've been through about 30 girls in Cambodia now. Every single one has done BBBJ without complaint or me even asking. Only 4 were Viet. The rest were Cambodian. This includes one girl at a "legitimate" massage place who went down on me when I flipped and was hard as a rock. She didn't even ask! Just put it in her mouth. Plus two non-pros. Also had a girl from Cyrcee demand that she give me BBBJCIM after I already had a session with her and two other girls I took out of there. I insisted I couldn't cum again and she said she'd prove I could. Actually couldn't believe that one from a Cyrcee girl who I expected to be very hardened (and indeed some of the girls I've taken out of there have been).

I also disagree that it's tough or even impossible to get non-pros in Cambodia. I was only there for 3 weeks on work. Took two totally regular girls to bed. One was a school teacher I met on Facebook who ended up giving me a BBBJ followed by hand relief while we tongue kissed (she wasn't "ready" for me to put it in) on our second date. The other was a bank teller who I had to deal with regularly with some work stuff. Took her to see the nice furnished apartment I was given by work on the third date and she literally begged me to sleep over. Kissing led to touching which led to bareback sex.

Most of the BJs were mediocre and one was even terrible, but no refusals whatsoever. Some were actually very good. Two girls actually did deep throat! Who the hell taught them that? Most of the girls came out of hostess bars on 104, but Cyrcee, Nay Nay and Martinis were also regular haunts.As of late I have found that more Thai girls are saying no to BBBJ, or at least the young hot ones. The old pros are still COF even they don't care for CIM, but I have 3 K'mai GFs and 2 VNs and they are all CIM no problem.

I hate the girls that stop and clean off the pre-cum. It's like I'm just about there and she stops, fcking irritates the hell out of me. Suck my dick and don't stop for a second. Usually this is why I can't CIM or I take over and COF. Then I can't help, but laughing; don't know why, but blowing my load all over a girls face just tickles my funny bone, especially if I get her in the eye. Sorry, I'm laughing now, I never get tired of it. LOL.

Cheers,

PS The girl from the bank wasn't ANZ was it?

Dante2
02-12-13, 01:36
I've kinda thought rickrock was BS since I joined this board but him saying that every one of the 30 girls have given him BJ's like they do them all the time is completely different then my experiences and everyone else I've heard abouts as well.

GooberMonger
02-12-13, 07:26
I've kinda thought rickrock was BS since I joined this board but him saying that every one of the 30 girls have given him BJ's like they do them all the time is completely different then my experiences and everyone else I've heard abouts as well.Yes, Dante 30 girls? Then I read it again that he never even asked them if they BBBJ. Could just have been lucky, but I always ask and don't think I have ever got 30 for 30 in Cambodia or Thailand, but the girls at Cyrcee are BJ experts. They don't suck dick they don't work there or that use to be the case.

You never know, I've had some crazy shit happen to me that I would have never believed before if some one told me the same thing.

Happy Mongering it's the year of the snake. Mongers get your snakes out.

AlBundy6600
02-12-13, 12:53
I just arrived in Phnom Penh. What are the actual ASKED (from the girls) and PAYED (from customer) prices? Can someone give examples?

I spoke with some girls at the street and in Walkabout club today, and ALL asked 30 Dollar (!) for short time, which is very much in my opinion. For this money I can have good sex with a real clean and beautiful girl in a german bordell in the north-west (Dortmund-Duisburg area).

I did not start to negotiate prices, because I would not like to be a too "cheap charly" but I also not want to overpay.

So. Please if anyone payed for a girl in the last month give a example, like:

From this club, barfine was X Dollar, drinks was Y Dollar, and short time with blow job etc was Z Dollar).

Thanks

AussieGuy100
02-12-13, 14:51
I just arrived in Phnom Penh. What are the actual ASKED (from the girls) and PAYED (from customer) prices? Can someone give examples?

I spoke with some girls at the street and in Walkabout club today, and ALL asked 30 Dollar (!) for short time, which is very much in my opinion. For this money I can have good sex with a real clean and beautiful girl in a german bordell in the north-west (Dortmund-Duisburg area).

I did not start to negotiate prices, because I would not like to be a too "cheap charly" but I also not want to overpay.

So. Please if anyone payed for a girl in the last month give a example, like:

From this club, barfine was X Dollar, drinks was Y Dollar, and short time with blow job etc was Z Dollar).

ThanksSigh. Why don't you try reading the last few pages of this forum to check on prices?

And of course the girls know you have just arrived in Phnom Penh. That's why they are quoting high prices, to see if you will pay that amount. You must haggle. It's not being a 'cheap charlie' it's being a realist.

Barfines run $7-10. Some bars lower it to $5 after midnight.

Hostess bar girls. ST rates are $20-40, LT $25-50. Depends on your negotiating skills and knowledge of Khmer language.

Freelance girls at Walkabout and the nearby Sorya Golden Mall are $15-20 ST, and $25-35 LT.

Make sure you tell the girl what you want (blow jobs etc) , before you take them.

Some girls, especially if they know or like you, will say 'up to you' when asked how much. Just give them the amounts above. Or more if you feel they were really good.

FruitNinja
02-12-13, 15:10
I've kinda thought rickrock was BS since I joined this board but him saying that every one of the 30 girls have given him BJ's like they do them all the time is completely different then my experiences and everyone else I've heard abouts as well.A legend in how own mind. I think half the shit he posts is exactly that. I was in PP with quite a few guys and none of us found what he found. But maybe he looks like Brad Pitt which makes you wonder why he needs to pay anyway. I think anyone trying to duplicate his experience will be sadly disappointed because his experience only exists in his mind. '

AlBundy6600
02-12-13, 18:15
Thank you for the information. I was reading many pages back, but often guys write something like "I payed her not too much". And a information like you have done was really missing.

I just took a girl from Walkabout, she asked 30 Dollar, but than agreed to 20 Dollar for Short time. But in the room she was really not good; she could not remember that she agreed to do a uncovered BJ etc etc, and her technical knowledge was very poor also. After we finished (around 30 minutes) she asked for a tip.

I don't tell any girl that I am first time in Cambodia. Thats the reason why I also not discussed with them about the prices.

Rick Rock
02-12-13, 20:22
Ha ha. After complaining about how much I dislike Phnom Penh for the last six months you think I would suddenly start promoting it as a blowjob hot spot for what? Invisible internet credentials? Especially after I talked about how I went without much action at all during my first visit.

All I can tell you is what happened, you're free to disregard it.

I didn't say the blowjobs were great or even enthusiastic. But they all did it. Some were actually surprisingly good but even those were not up to western non-pro standards (talking about sexually active babes from cities, not middle-aged housewife nags in Idaho) with the exception of a few, including the deep-throaters mentioned.

When I say I didn't ask, I mean I didn't say "okay you suck me now" while we were in bed. It always happened as a part of the proceedings.

When sent back to PP for work for a few weeks early this year it was standard practice. None of the Cyrcee girls had to be asked. Viet twosome from Martinis didn't have to be asked. Viet single from Martinis didn't have to be asked. With the bar girls I made a joke out of asking them if they smoked long before I took any of them out. If they were playful about it, it was a go. I also mainly went with the women who could speak decent English, which means they have been around the scene for a while and know what Barangs expect. Also tended to go with ones who were obviously into me over some beauties who gave me a starfish vibe. May also help that I ate every single one of the girls out except the Viet freelancers from Martini who looked a bit iffy and one bar girl who didn't want to let me.

Also never refused a barfine. Don't know if I lucked out or what. At least one bartender told me she never goes out but wanted to try it with me since I "had a good heart." Turns out that was the worst one because her beautiful face gave way to a terrible after-birth belly. I'm sure there are girls that won't go out ever, but luckily I didn't try for any of them this time. I did get turned down for a few LT in favor of ST, but that was no big deal. Most of them offered LT the following day, but only took up that offer once.

In the bars I paid 25-30 ST and 40-50 LT, pretty standard once I started to make regular appearances in bars on 104, 110 and 136. In Martinis I paid 20 ST. At Cyrcee I paid 20 ST or 15 ST when I took 3 or more girls at once. Usually ended tipping 5 each to the Cyrcee girls for above average performance. They can really do it, better than a lot of mechanical oily girls in Thailand in my opinion. After about a week, I stopped asking prices and just gave these set amounts after the deed was done.

I'm fit, tall, no grey hair, no beer belly, very hygienic. I'm very sure that has something to do with it. Yes I get laid for free regularly (including by my wife who is bi and swings with me) , though sometimes I don't want to deal with the drama and hassle, especially when on the road. That's why I love pay for play.

In my opinion the hostess bars in Cambodia are only really good for lonely guys who can't get regular dates. It's a place for girls to hang on you and compliment you and take care of you as long as you keep buying drinks. Seems a lot of women are happy to stay with you for a few months for a couple hundred dollars. Had that offer made to me several times when I repeated with the same girls. But just for a bang they aren't really worth it. Too much work and ultimately expense (drink, lady drinks, $10 bar fine, plus ST or LT fee). Better to take a freelancer or go to a place like Cyrcee unless you're looking for a GFE and can't get it elsewhere.

I have been with hundreds of Thai women pros and non and have never not received oral outside of a few encounters. Maybe you guys with dry spells have bad luck or more likely need to up the romance and your appearance and / or approach a bit. If you just lay there and expect them to service you like a mechanic does an automobile then it's no wonder (but you should still be getting oral most of the times, it's standard with working girls). I really don't know, and I think that's shit if they don't. I've had more Thai girls not want me to go down on them than those who don't want to go down on me. I have had two or three younger cuter ones ask me to use a rubber for the BJ in the last two years.

As always, your mileage may vary.


I hate the girls that stop and clean off the pre-cum.Yea I hate that. A lot of girls did do that, even some from Cyrcee. A real mood killer if you let it. I just tried to ignore it or move on to something else when it became a distraction.


PS The girl from the bank wasn't ANZ was it?No, not there. Another bank that I had to work with. Has a western name but is totally Cambodian (in ownership and practice). The woman spoke damn good English and knew quite a bit about Western cuisine. She took me to some great French restaurants and dessert shops in PP (a pleasant surprise) and was even able to discuss international politics. My guess is that she had a cultured Western boyfriend at some point, though I never came out and asked her.

AussieGuy100
02-12-13, 21:01
Thank you for the information. I was reading many pages back, but often guys write something like "I payed her not too much". And a information like you have done was really missing.

I just took a girl from Walkabout, she asked 30 Dollar, but than agreed to 20 Dollar for Short time. But in the room she was really not good; she could not remember that she agreed to do a uncovered BJ etc etc, and her technical knowledge was very poor also. After we finished (around 30 minutes) she asked for a tip.

I don't tell any girl that I am first time in Cambodia. Thats the reason why I also not discussed with them about the prices.It doesn't matter if you don't tell the girls that it's your first time in PP. They will be able to tell from the way you act. Anyway it doesn't matter. Now you know the approximate prices you hopefully won't be paying too much.

Another suggestion: stop taking girls from Walkabout. They don't care about their performance, they just want the money quickly. Go to the Golden Sorya Mall, about 200 metres north of Walkabout on St 51. Lots of reasonable looking freelancers who are more likely to give you a better time than the Walkabout girls. Or try Pontoon disco or Heart of Darkness after midnight.

Pak Mike
02-12-13, 22:14
I have made a few visits to PP for longish periods (working) , and would say that Rick Rock's experience is fairly similar to my own. I also have been described by the gals as a guy "with a good heart" and this counts for a lot in these places, I think our attitude counts for a lot more than many mongers realise.

Shadow6491
02-13-13, 01:00
This is not a boast or a go at what anybody pays. I would just like to let people know what I pay and the girls are very happy to go with me any and every time.

I now have to pay $15 at the WA but I give no tip. Any freelances are the same. Unless I was going to a brothel or a off the street girl and then that would be less At the Hostess bars I still have girls that will go for $15 others I pay $20, eventually it will be all $20.

Barfines they do vary and sometimes are not required. The boss is not always in the bar and if the girl wants to go for a ST well the girls all seem to have this understanding in some bars.

Not many if any girls will understand Thai so use the word yum yum not smoke if referring to BJ and it is a good idea to ask first.

FruitNinja
02-13-13, 03:50
In Cambo it's Yom Yom. I'm not getting into a war about this but if you're expecting to go to PP and get 30 out of 30 to automatically go down on you you're going to be disappointed. I'm in my 50's shower twice a day, not overweight, told I'm good looking, have 20 somethings that see me at home. P4P but not a lot as most like hanging out with me. Prefer P4P because women here are totally f*ked up and I don't need a full time gf to have a life. But if you read the forum you will see that there has been issue with certain things in certain places. The general consensus in PP was that oral was not a given. So for someone to state outright that they are batting 30 for 30 is at best suspect to me."I'm a stud" talk. I have no problem calling it as I see it.

AC has some of the most stuck up bar girls I've seen. I got turned down a few times but I was always gunning for the hottest girl on stage. I'm secure enough in myself to admit getting turned down. No hurt feelings, shit I turn down half the bar. I keep forgetting I'm not 20 anymore.

Vietnam is a pain in the ass but can be manageable with some work and the Hot Tocs are great. Loved the food.

Love Manila! DIA can be a lot of fun.

All I'm saying is if you pin your monger money on a guy that's thumping his chest in every post, even his last, you're going to be disappointed.

It's the old duck story.

Rick Rock
02-13-13, 07:08
It doesn't matter if you don't tell the girls that it's your first time in PP. They will be able to tell from the way you act. Anyway it doesn't matter. Now you know the approximate prices you hopefully won't be paying too much.

Another suggestion: stop taking girls from Walkabout. They don't care about their performance, they just want the money quickly. Go to the Golden Sorya Mall, about 200 metres north of Walkabout on St 51. Lots of reasonable looking freelancers who are more likely to give you a better time than the Walkabout girls. Or try Pontoon disco or Heart of Darkness after midnight.You would know better than I, but I've heard that most of the girls in Sorya Mall are banned from Walkabout. Any truth to that? Clearly some of them are drugged out, including one pregnant one who looks like she's wearing rags yet still tried to get me to take her (in between scratching herself). Poor thing.

Rick Rock
02-13-13, 07:15
In Cambo it's Yom Yom. I'm not getting into a war about this but if you're expecting to go to PP and get 30 out of 30 to automatically go down on you you're going to be disappointed. I'm in my 50's shower twice a day, not overweight, told I'm good looking, have 20 somethings that see me at home. P4P but not a lot as most like hanging out with me. Prefer P4P because women here are totally f*ked up and I don't need a full time gf to have a life. But if you read the forum you will see that there has been issue with certain things in certain places. The general consensus in PP was that oral was not a given. So for someone to state outright that they are batting 30 for 30 is at best suspect to me."I'm a stud" talk. I have no problem calling it as I see it.That's because you have some weird irrational dislike of me despite never meeting.


AC has some of the most stuck up bar girls I've seen. I got turned down a few times but I was always gunning for the hottest girl on stage. I'm secure enough in myself to admit getting turned down. No hurt feelings, shit I turn down half the bar. I keep forgetting I'm not 20 anymore.Another example of YMMV. Very, very rare to be turned down by bargirls in AC in my experience. In fact they aren't even allowed to turn you down in most bars, so if they absolutely don't like you they have to come up with another excuse about being sick or on their period.


Vietnam is a pain in the ass but can be manageable with some work and the Hot Tocs are great. Loved the food.Agree with you there. Food is great, hot tocs are great. I also like the hostess bars because some of the girls are absolutely stunners, even though the prices are nuts.


Love Manila! DIA can be a lot of fun.Hate Manila. Like Mumbai or another one of these massive polluted overcrowded dumps.


All I'm saying is if you pin your monger money on a guy that's thumping his chest in every post, even his last, you're going to be disappointed.You're losing it. Aren't you the same guy a few posts back who was crying because I complained about PP and said repeatedly I don't like the place? Is that chest thumping when I talk about going back to my hotel alone several times because I'm shocked by quoted prices?

Plenty of non chest thumping posts and reports by me in Japan (when I got a nice STD) , South Korea, Costa Rica (when I got ripped off) , Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Thailand and the Philippines.

Get a job. Hounding me on an internet forum doesn't pay.

Leftfield1965
02-13-13, 09:21
but I've heard that most of the girls in Sorya Mall are banned from Walkabout. Any truth to that? Clearly some of them are drugged out, including one pregnant one who looks like she's wearing rags yet still tried to get me to take her (in between scratching herself). Poor thing.Some freelancers from Sorya Mall have indeed been banned from the Walkabout, but I wouldn't say most of them. I know plenty of girls who rotate between WA, GSM, HOD, Pontoon and Martinis.

I know the pregnant one, she looks like she hasn't had a shower since 2008. Also saw the father of her unborn baby a few times, what a fine specimen he seems to be. With those 2 as his / her parents the kid is going to have a mighty fine future indeed. It's terribly sad.

FruitNinja
02-13-13, 11:04
That's because you have some weird irrational dislike of me despite never meeting. Get a job. Hounding me on an internet forum doesn't pay.I prefer others working for me. Do you need a job?

I have no dislike of you. I just think you're narrow minded and make statements that are absolutes when you really don't know what your talking about. Saying that a girl in AC must go with a customer is so off that mark it's ridiculous. That would be "prostitution." I was there with guys that are regulars. One guy owns a club in Manila. So I'm not sure where you got that idea or some of your other ideas but they are just wrong. 30 for 30 in PP. Guys come here for information and telling them they can expect 30/30 is just wrong. Telling someone that the girls in AC have to go with them is an outright fabrication.

I respect the fact that you've been to all these places and I'm sure you have some useful information but when you do shit like complain about prices going up $3 and then in another area talk about paying 14, 000 baht for a limo ride it just doesn't add up.

It seems you know a lot and have been to many destinations, I just like to know what is reality and what is fabricated fantasy. Some people are on a very limited budget and save all year to be able to do a week or two in paradise. They need to know what to expect. I've been at this for a long time, and although my time in PP was short, based on what I saw you're not going to get willing head from 30 women in a row unless you've got a gun to their heads.

Mr Enternational
02-13-13, 13:14
Very, very rare to be turned down by bargirls in AC in my experience. In fact they aren't even allowed to turn you down in most bars, so if they absolutely don't like you they have to come up with another excuse about being sick or on their period.Read the AC forum and you will see guys getting turned down everyday. Not every girl who works in the bars work there for the purpose of going with customers. And those that do still get to choose which customers they will go with. Just ask Maestro Boy. He and I were in I think it was Babydolls (or whichever bar that is open 24 hours) yesterday at noon. I was making advances on a chick but she fended me off to the utmost.


Is that chest thumping when I talk about going back to my hotel alone several times because I'm shocked by quoted prices?Who cares what is "quoted". Learn to negotiate.


I've been at this for a long time, and although my time in PP was short, based on what I saw you're not going to get willing head from 30 women in a row unless you've got a gun to their heads.Don't know if I even saw 30 fuckable chicks the 5 days I was in Cambodia. The numbers would really drop if I didn't count the Viet chicks.

GooberMonger
02-13-13, 18:38
Yes, it true I got over 30 girls to BBBJ too Rick.

Your not the only player mate, I even got a couple girls both fighting to get my cock in their mouth. The girls were Khmer and Vietnamese. The VN girls were better all were ST and cheap too. Had some real lookers, this one girl named Yang had a beautiful set of tits, great BBBJ and her sister was a real looker too.

Ran into this one American while taking a break and he tells me he tipped one of the girls $100; what an asshole. I said to him why would you do that? He said because she was really good, like he must have been a virgin getting his first lay. I explained to him that it's bad enough that the girls already think we're rich, but your going to push prices up doing stupid shit like that.

So to get back on topic here if you were in PP ten years ago you could have experienced shit that puts Thailand in the dust. Thailand has their US Naval ports. In Cambodia we want our UNTAC back so we can have our cheap working girls back with the excellent service they use to provide.

I really miss those days, but at least I was here for them. I've heard you might still get 100% BBBJ service from all the girls working at the same place, but it's too young a crowd for this old man.

From some one who has lived in Thailand for 3 years and I think 8 years I've lived in PP for now it's not a givin that you'll get BBBJ from any girl here or in Thailand. Always ask before, hell I'm usually asking them for anal because most of them can't suck dick very good anyway.

I talked to one of my GF's today about Khmer girls and BBBJ. She told me that it's because K'mai girls don't think Barangs are clean, they also like clean shaven men. I get BBBJ all the time now, but only from my GFs, which I maintain 5 girls right now. Plus I take something strange or switch GFs for new GFs. It's just my thing because I don't like bagging it all the time. I have a hard enough time getting off without bagging it. All my GFs will do 3 hole, but not all of them like it.

One day I'm going to settle down with one girl, yeah right maybe when I can't get it up any more. Mongering is an addiction and I've been this way since my teens when one GF couldn't keep me satisfied, it all started. LOL.

Cheers,

Rick Rock
02-13-13, 19:29
Sorry bro, but I don't know what you have to say about anything. Frankly, you're weird. You live in the sex tourism capital of earth and take holidays to other sex tourism capitals but post all day on mongering boards about not mongering or wanting to go to mongering spots. Bizarre.

Also hate to tell you but you being black is going to eliminate tons of options for you in much of the world, especially Asia. Over the last few years I can't even count how many working girls in the Philippines, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong and now Cambodia have told me without any solicitation on my part that they refuse to fuck a black guy or even that they "hate" black people. I think it's bullshit and I definitely don't agree with it, but I'm telling you the truth. It actually turns me off when they lace into these diatribes. I actually had the owner of one place in Phnom Penh tell me she would never visit America because she doesn't like Africans after asking where I lived. Guess where I never ate again?

In fact most Cambodians I talked to refused to believe that black people could come from the US. They kept insisting,"but their parents are from Africa. They are African, not USA." I guess they think all Americans have blond hair and blue eyes.

Anyway, according to your reports you went to places like Walkabout to fuck drug addicts for $10. Not many lookers there? You don't say?

In the 50-60 hostess bars there are plenty of gems. You should have tried some places like Shanghai or Rose Bar.

RE: Angeles City, yes yes it's all unofficial. Prostitution is officially illegal. Mamasans officially can't control the girls in the bars. But guess what? They do, even during their off time. If they are seen in the street meeting a guy they can be fined or lose their job and salary.

The bars want their half of that barfine and so there are unofficial rules in most bars that all but the cherry girls have to go out with a customer in almost all cases. If they don't they need a damn good reason. I got that from working girls and mamasans. There are probably exceptions, and I'm sure any white bar owner isn't going to admit that even when it's the case. They might not even know. But between the mamasans and the girls, that's the reality.

Rick Rock
02-13-13, 19:36
Guys come here for information and telling them they can expect 30/30 is just wrong.Show me where I wrote "they can expect 30/30" and I will immediately apologize.

You can't because I didn't.

I relayed my experience, which is the purpose of this board.

There wasn't a single time I didn't get blown. I was with 30 girls in 3 weeks. Thems the facts.

I say again: YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY.

The fact that some guys couldn't buy a blowjob and I got one for free sure proves that.


Telling someone that the girls in AC have to go with them is an outright fabrication.If you want to be a dick: Next time you're refused ask why, then tell the mamasan about the situation and look at the reaction on her face. Let me know how it works out.

GooberMonger
02-13-13, 20:47
There wasn't a single time I didn't get blown. I was with 30 girls in 3 weeks. Thems the facts.I believe that there wasn't a single time you didn't get blown when you were with 30 girls in a row; I bet you got blown off quite a few times. LOL.

Sorry Rick couldn't resist that one. Your my hero managing to bust a nut 30 times in 21 days, hell I'm impressed. I figure I'm doing ok to bust a nut once a day. Use to like it 3 times a day, everyday.

Happy Valentine's Day,

Tiger 888
02-14-13, 01:03
...In fact most Cambodians I talked to refused to believe that black people could come from the US. They kept insisting,"but their parents are from Africa. They are African, not USA." I guess they think all Americans have blond hair and blue eyes...That is a strange concept because the only difference is that the white ones came from somewhere else and how they came. There are neither white nor black true Americans.

Shadow6491
02-14-13, 04:28
There are most defiantly girls at the mall that have been banned from the WA. I know a lot of them and would go with them. But then I know why they have be banned on an individual basis. I never go with girls that have been banned for being a thief or if they have stolen from my friends. We all have that rule and the girls know it we will also call them Srey Jow in public. It stops a few of the girls at least from thieving from the locals. Others that have been banned for drugs well, who gives a fuck what do you expect. I also know a very cute little viet that was banned for smashing an ash try over a friends head. She was over the top but he was as drunk as a skunk and being a fuckwit. I still go with her she is not a crazy even if she is a meth head I don't think I will end up glassed.

Leftfield1965
02-14-13, 04:47
That is a strange concept because the only difference is that the white ones came from somewhere else and how they came. There are neither white nor black true Americans.What do you strange about that statement or concept?

I find it perfectly normal that the average Khmer would come up with this kind of logic. But perhaps you don't realise how retarded some of these people are.

AussieGuy100
02-14-13, 05:57
There are most defiantly girls at the mall that have been banned from the WA. I know a lot of them and would go with them. But then I know why they have be banned on an individual basis.
...over a friends head. She was over the top but he was as drunk as a skunk and being a fuckwit. I still go with her she is not a crazy even if she is a meth head I don't think I will end up glassed.Good post. Tells it like it is. Too many posters on here are softies who get all nervous about taking out girls with a bit of 'edge' to them like most of the girls in GSM have. They end up getting an average to mediocre performance from a hostess bar girl. Some of the GSM girls are very enthusiastic performers as most of them are obviously very experienced. And sometimes it's good to live near the edge a little!

Red Kilt
02-14-13, 09:24
There are most defiantly girls at the mall that have been banned . "I like defiant girls, as long as they are definitely girls.

Rick Rock
02-14-13, 10:54
I believe that there wasn't a single time you didn't get blown when you were with 30 girls in a row; I bet you got blown off quite a few times. LOL.

Sorry Rick couldn't resist that one. Your my hero managing to bust a nut 30 times in 21 days, hell I'm impressed. I figure I'm doing ok to bust a nut once a day. Use to like it 3 times a day, everyday.

Happy Valentine's Day, Yea man. Life is too short not to cum every day, at least once.

I'm insatiable. Even when I bust two nuts a day I often find myself wanking off again late at night.

Scorchin1470
02-14-13, 12:26
What do you strange about that statement or concept?

I find it perfectly normal that the average Khmer would come up with this kind of logic. But perhaps you don't realise how retarded some of these people are.That was civilized before there were any white or black people in the USA.

Cambodians are not retarded; no, rather many are rather brighter than the tourists who think that they are more intelligent.

Maybe lacking sophistication, maybe not 'westernised, ' maybe not graduates, but retarded. No way.

Leftfield1965
02-15-13, 04:15
Cambodians are not retarded; no, rather many are rather brighter than the tourists who think that they are more intelligent.

Maybe lacking sophistication, maybe not 'westernised, ' maybe not graduates, but retarded. No way.Dude, open your eyes.

I'm not trying to insult Khmers, I'm actually quite fond of them giving their history of the last 40 years. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

The reality is that a large proportion of Khmers have never seen the inside of a school. Many can't read or write their own language let alone English. Most know nothing about the outside world, nor do they care. Sure, they are street smart, they have to be to survive.

But being street smart doesn't make them intelligent, far from it.

Having lived in Thailand for a number of years I used the scratch my head in bewilderment at the stupidity displayed by some of the natives here.

Khmers just take it to another level.

Perhaps it's no surprise given the fact that the KR exterminated the smarter ones all those years ago.

Tiger 888
02-15-13, 10:46
...Most know nothing about the outside world, nor do they care...So they have something in common with many Americans.

Mr Enternational
02-15-13, 12:05
So they have something in common with many Americans.Amen to that. When I travel overseas and call myself Black people say you are Brown not Black. I say well when you come to my country there will be three kinds of people: White, Black, and Mexican. You will be considered Mexican. Americans can't think beyond those three.

Scorchin1470
02-15-13, 12:14
Dude, open your eyes.

Many can't read or write their own language let alone English. Most know nothing about the outside world, nor do they care. Sure, they are street smart, they have to be to survive.

But being street smart doesn't make them intelligent, far from it.

Having lived in Thailand for a number of years I used the scratch my head in bewilderment at the stupidity displayed by some of the natives here.You first paragraph covers many nationalities and is a vague generalisations. Much is true of Americans. Despite the noise they make overseas many Americans never travel outside their home state.

Education and intelligence are two separate things.

Glad ou think the natives are 'stupid. ' Must endear you to many!

FreebieFan
02-15-13, 12:54
Had a few happy days in phnomh penh recently. Stayed near Walkabout.

First afternoon on arival sat in walkabout, chatting to a gal who looked fine, offered "massage" she had nice body. US$25 settled it.

That night wanderd asround a few bars, HOD, getting my bearings etc.

Next day, for lunch went to walkabout and yesterdays "friend " was there, she offered servicesagain but told her I wanted fresh girl so she called her freind over. And made her friend pay a US$2 intro fee LOL. Back to room, this gal good and adventurous. US$ 25 again.

That night made a date with bartender in Shanghai for after work, but took home a gal from Black Cat. Small cute with happy smile and those silver waist chains they have for luck.

Thiungs start to get hazy thereafter as before I went to Cambodia I had two nights in Thailand. Late nights, beers etc all take their toll.

I do recall that the next afternoon I went into walkabout (the Hell Angels chapter there every day?) and some ropey ladies there seemingly fixed in their concrete seats. Anyways found the one rorm dy before, she volunteered a freind come along and we had a nice 3 some. US$40. Oh and I shaved them both.

That night was one of those strange nights. I rearranged the date with the SHanghai bartender gilrl but wanted another from Balck cat. So barfined the Balck cat girl from 11pm till 130 then she left my bed and room. Go out to meet Shanghai bartender and she's fine to go with mre, but not to my hotel. She says she has a relative working there etc. So we try 3 guest houses. 2 are full and one had no person to ask for a room. By now its 3am and my need for sleep is greater than my need for a root so I went home alone. Sometimes sleep better than sex. But only sometimes!

By now I've didcoverd the bars near the river so next day I stop by candy bar in morning. Some rough girls there but a smal cutie took my eye so I got her number. Headed back to walkabout to see who was around as I liked the 2 girl thing but neither girl there. Called the candy bar gal and she came over. 40kgs and happy. Oh and I shaved her too.

THAt night went out and about and had a nice chat with a cute gal in Vixens then another in Dreams. WAs thinking which one to take so headed to vixens and mine is with a young stud, never mind, then the dreams girl is also ocupied. Hmm headed to a restaurant (as needed the wifi) and whn I looged in there a message from wechat with a gal in a bar near candy bar. We do the hello, hi where you work thing and I get there (street 136 I think). She has great legs, one drink bar fine and we head to my hotel. And yes, she hadsnt shaved for a while so I obliged. Overall great times. Willl make another post about thoughts of Phnomh penh

FreebieFan
02-15-13, 13:01
Have lived and worked in asia for many years so have seen all the fleshpots. Found PP to be a place eith fantastic value. Breakfast for less than US$5. Dinner same, cheap beers, ok prices for ladies drinks. Nice staff in most places. Overall I realyl enjoyed and probably more to do than Angeles. Ok so on beach as in Pattaya but overall, very happily impressed. I think will have one month a year in Cambodia when retirement comes.

Sa and had late breakfast most days on 126 street (same street as Gladiator bar ). And I say thousands of "me's". Guys between 45 and 65, standard uniform of shorts, tshirt and sandals. With that hunting look in their eyes. Yes lots of older couples who looked bored with each other and the wives watching the husbands eyes like hawks.

Most places had nice fun friendly staff, not in the loud brash way they can be in Thailand.

Ok the streets have lots of garbage but wandering around BKK today I realised the streets in BKK are all broken, pavements all cracked, drains as dirty so maybe not much difference.

As I sad, overall good impression, great prices and for sure I iwll be back to Cambodia for many more adventures. My wallet was happy and I never felt anyone was taking advantage!

FruitNinja
02-15-13, 14:48
So they have something in common with many Americans.This statement is sooo true.

FruitNinja
02-15-13, 14:58
What do you strange about that statement or concept?

I find it perfectly normal that the average Khmer would come up with this kind of logic. But perhaps you don't realise how retarded some of these people are.Do you think that of African Americans? Do you actually think that education is the only way to success? I don't have a degree. Poor child born in the hills of eastern Europe and I'll bury 95% of the US population in net worth and my knowledge of culture and history. Given an opportunity to hire someone I would hire that street smart Khmer before I would hire a know it all with 20 pieces of paper telling him "how smart he should be" If you look around you it's the racists that are usually of inferior brain power because they can't think reality but only heed the line they have been feed. Dust off that KKK outfit. I'm sure you're one of those that think the south will rise again.

Red Kilt
02-15-13, 15:28
Had a few happy days in phnomh penh recently. Stayed near Walkabout.

SNIP.

. Headed to a restaurant (as needed the wifi) and whn I looged in there a message from wechat with a gal in a bar near candy bar. We do the hello, hi where you work thing and I get there (street 136 I think). She has great legs, one drink bar fine and we head to my hotel. .FF.

I realise you posted this in haste (because of the typos hehehe) but are you saying that you logged in to wifi and used the "wechat" app to find a girl somewhere close?

How did that go? Useful app?

How many did you meet that way?

Rick Rock
02-15-13, 16:05
Amen to that. When I travel overseas and call myself Black people say you are Brown not Black. I say well when you come to my country there will be three kinds of people: White, Black, and Mexican. You will be considered Mexican. Americans can't think beyond those three.Are you from Ohio or Arkansas?

New York is the cultural and financial capital of the United States. Even a bus boy in Brooklyn will know the countries of Latin America, Asia, etc, better than the average Thai, Italian or Korean office worker.

The essence of America is diversity. It lacks in middle America only because middle America lacks in everything, including a viable economy to attract immigrants.

In America "brown" is usually the term used for Latinos.

Rick Rock
02-15-13, 16:07
BTW, Leftfields opinions are shared by I guess 95% of the foreigners living and working in Cambodia if my experience is anything to go on. So if this kind of stuff puts you off (as it should) , you'll want to avoid getting into conversations with the expat crowd. Not much different than the majority of the expats in Thailand, Philippines, etc, who all seem united in their hatred from the "lazy" locals (makes you wonder why they don't go the fuck home).

FruitNinja
02-15-13, 16:26
Are you from Ohio or Arkansas? New York is the cultural and financial capital of the United States. It lacks in middle America only because middle America lacks in everything, including a viable economy to attract immigrants. In America "brown" is usually the term used for Latinos.Try telling that to the Close to 10 Million people living in NE Illinois. That would be Chicago and the collar counties. Probably the most diverse city in the country. And that's a fact. With a continuing growth in Hispanic and Asian population of about 3% yearly.

I don't get where you get your information. You're about the knowingest guy in the world but 1/2 the sh*t you know is false.

Ohh wait? You live in NY so how could anything come close to where the incredible GaRRp lives.

Paul Kausch
02-15-13, 17:23
BTW, Leftfields opinions are shared by I guess 95% of the foreigners living and working in Cambodia if my experience is anything to go on. So if this kind of stuff puts you off (as it should) , you'll want to avoid getting into conversations with the expat crowd. Not much different than the majority of the expats in Thailand, Philippines, etc, who all seem united in their hatred from the "lazy" locals (makes you wonder why they don't go the fuck home).Have a friend who recently retired to Ecuador. He's in a charming town at about 3500 meters. About 400 expats mostly from the US live there. He bemoans the fact that they live in walled compounds which they never leave and spend most of their time complaining about Ecuadorians and watching MSNBC.

Rick Rock
02-15-13, 17:35
You just made my argument for me. Chicago is the armpit of America. No one cares about it. Full of ignorant fat sweaty middle America neckbeards. Next time you're in Phnom Penh see how many bar girls have heard of it and then get back to me.

The NYC metro is home to close to 10% of the US population, and is the world capital of finance, trade, media, entertainment and biotechnology. So yeah, it matters a little bit. Find someone in the world who hasn't heard of it and then get back to me.

Now go eat some greasy disgusting deep dish pizza and put a flannel shirt on for me and stop jocking my posts would ya? .


Probably the most diverse city in the country. And that's a fact.No, that's an incorrect assertion, not quite the same thing as a fact, but judging by your posts I could see where you'd be confused.

America's Most Diverse Metros.

1. San Jose, CA

2. New York, NY-NJ

3. Oakland, CA

4. Houston, TX

5. Honolulu, Hi,

6. Fort Lauderdale, FL

7. Orange County, CA

8. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

9. San Francisco, CA

10. Albuquerque, NM

No mentioned of Shitcago or any other Midwestern city. What a surprise!

Rick Rock
02-15-13, 17:37
Have a friend who recently retired to Ecuador. He's in a charming town at about 3500 meters. About 400 expats mostly from the US live there. He bemoans the fact that they live in walled compounds which they never leave and spend most of their time complaining about Ecuadorians and watching MSNBC.That's pretty much the archetype of the Western expat, judging from my experience. Sadly it's the same thing is pretty much every country I have ever been to, which is a lot. The imperial-colonial mindset dies hard.

GooberMonger
02-15-13, 20:41
Have lived and worked in asia for many years so have seen all the fleshpots. Found PP to be a place eith fantastic value. Breakfast for less than US$5. Dinner same, cheap beers, ok prices for ladies drinks. Nice staff in most places. Overall I realyl enjoyed and probably more to do than Angeles. Ok so on beach as in Pattaya but overall, very happily impressed. I think will have one month a year in Cambodia when retirement comes.

Sa and had late breakfast most days on 126 street (same street as Gladiator bar ). And I say thousands of "me's". Guys between 45 and 65, standard uniform of shorts, tshirt and sandals. With that hunting look in their eyes. Yes lots of older couples who looked bored with each other and the wives watching the husbands eyes like hawks.

Most places had nice fun friendly staff, not in the loud brash way they can be in Thailand.

Ok the streets have lots of garbage but wandering around BKK today I realised the streets in BKK are all broken, pavements all cracked, drains as dirty so maybe not much difference.

As I sad, overall good impression, great prices and for sure I iwll be back to Cambodia for many more adventures. My wallet was happy and I never felt anyone was taking advantage!I've been semi-retire in SEA for over 10 years now, first 3 in Thailand and last 8 or so in Cambodia.

I love PP my neighbours are excellent, most of them work for the government and have helped me more than anyone ever did back home.

Just wait if you learn to speak K'mai you get most things for about half price that tourists are paying. Come here and retire and I'll get you set up brother with a few girlfriends, virgins if you want.

I go back to Thailand a few times a year to visit friends and do some mongering and I can't believe how much the prices for some shit has gone up there. Other stuff is the same price as 10 years ago, like rent, hotel rates, but food, beer, cars and girls wow prices have gone way up. Just a regular bar on Sukhumvit is over $3 now. In PP at a night club you'll pay less. I got a 6000 baht bill at I love NY in Pattaya. I'd be dead if I spent that much in a bar in PP.

I keep wanting to be a member here so I can PM people, but I don't like it takes so long for posts to go up. It is a good site though and most of the guys have had similar experiences as myself in the same countries. Others have help by stopping me from wasting my time by going to countries I've been curious about.

Cheers,

PS Chicago rocks, prefer it over NY, but that's just my opinion.

PSS Fuck the pizza, Blues clubs, Outlaws, steak houses and prime-rib at Lowery's, almost as much fun as BKK, but without the rats. PSSS Seen the sun come up many a morning in BKK.

Tiger 888
02-15-13, 23:27
...New York is the cultural and financial capital of the United States. Even a bus boy in Brooklyn will know the countries of Latin America, Asia, etc, better than the average Thai, Italian or Korean office worker...When I was there in 1989 for the first and only time I had quite the opposite impression. I was shocked by the ignorance of the average people I met.

Titanio
02-16-13, 00:21
That's pretty much the archetype of the Western expat, judging from my experience. Sadly it's the same thing is pretty much every country I have ever been to, which is a lot. The imperial-colonial mindset dies hard.You seems to know everything, but please be aware that it is not so pleasant to pass all your invalid information about Cambodia.

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Scorchin1470
02-16-13, 02:19
Even a bus boy in Brooklyn will know the countries of Latin America, Asia, etc, better than the average Thai, Italian or Korean office worker.I have no wish to sound rude but.

I doubt many of them know where Staten Island is. My experience is that Americans can tell you by rote the capitals of the US States but won't know where theAtlantic and Pacific oceans are. Asto the countries of Asia and Latin America.

Rick Rock
02-16-13, 07:45
When I was there in 1989 for the first and only time I had quite the opposite impression. I was shocked by the ignorance of the average people I met.Tiger, as you know I respect your experience and opinion. But I've lived in NYC for decades and talked with thousands from all walks of life. I speak the truth as always.

BTW, NYC has massively transformed since 1989. You owe it to yourself to see.

AlBundy6600
02-16-13, 11:14
I took the last days some girls from Sorya Golden Shopping center and around. After 2 pm you find some girls walking around. But the best time in my opinion is from 2 a. M.3 a. M. If the girls get nervous with successless hunting. I paid 15 Dollars for ST, a good BJ and Fuck. Long time they asked 30 but would also accepted 25 Dollar.

Some girls I saw after 11 pm at Corner Street 154 with street 63; they also asked 30 Dollar but I could not discuss with them about the exact service because lack of english language. But seems also to be not-drugged-girls.

2 days I saw a very beautiful, but unfortunally totally drugged girl, also in Golden Sorya. So sad she was really crazy.

If I read this threat, I don't understand what have to discussed here about NYC, Ecuador, Chicago. I mean. Can you not share your contacts and discuss this privately? This make the Forum very hard to read!

FritsVanegter
02-16-13, 11:28
Dude, open your eyes.

I'm not trying to insult Khmers, I'm actually quite fond of them giving their history of the last 40 years. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

The reality is that a large proportion of Khmers have never seen the inside of a school. Many can't read or write their own language let alone English. Most know nothing about the outside world, nor do they care. Sure, they are street smart, they have to be to survive.

But being street smart doesn't make them intelligent, far from it.

Having lived in Thailand for a number of years I used the scratch my head in bewilderment at the stupidity displayed by some of the natives here.

Khmers just take it to another level.

Perhaps it's no surprise given the fact that the KR exterminated the smarter ones all those years ago.Hello,

Have been to Thailand and Cambodia several times. To me many Thai people are not that willing to learn English. I Cambodia I did meet a lot of young people willing to learn. Some don't have enough money to pay for some extra education. Did meet loads of Thai hotel staff who didn't improve their English skills while working in the tourist industry. They rather play with their latest phone or read cartoons.

Greetings, Frits

Rick Rock
02-16-13, 12:25
I took the last days some girls from Sorya Golden Shopping center and around. After 2 pm you find some girls walking around. But the best time in my opinion is from 2 am3 am If the girls get nervous with successless hunting. I paid 15 Dollars for ST, a good BJ and Fuck. Long time they asked 30 but would also accepted 25 Dollar.

Some girls I saw after 11 pm at Corner Street 154 with street 63; they also asked 30 Dollar but I could not discuss with them about the exact service because lack of english language. But seems also to be not-drugged-girls.

2 days I saw a very beautiful, but unfortunally totally drugged girl, also in Golden Sorya. So sad she was really crazy.

If I read this threat, I don't understand what have to discussed here about NYC, Ecuador, Chicago. I mean. Can you not share your contacts and discuss this privately? This make the Forum very hard to read!No more than your illegible English does.

There is a natural flow to this forum and that is what makes it better than the others available.

Adapt.

Old New Guy
02-16-13, 12:56
New York is the cultural and financial capital of the United States. Even a bus boy in Brooklyn will know the countries of Latin America, Asia, etc, better than the average Thai, Italian or Korean office worker.Maybe you picked the wrong example, but an average Italian is better educated that your bus boy, and knows the countries of the world, also because money permitting, will like to travel there sometime. And the (public) school system is also pretty good, check again where US stands for education ranking.

FruitNinja
02-16-13, 14:16
You just made my argument for me. Chicago is the armpit of America. No one cares about it. Full of ignorant fat sweaty middle America neckbeards. Next time you're in Phnom Penh see how many bar girls have heard of it and then get back to me.

The NYC metro is home to close to 10% of the US population, and is the world capital of finance, trade, media, entertainment and biotechnology. So yeah, it matters a little bit. Find someone in the world who hasn't heard of it and then get back to me!As usual you just sprout off facts as you see them with little thought to reality. It's how the grand wizard RR see's it so it must be. I'll pass on the flannel shirt, I get my shirts at Hugo Boss on Michigan Ave. Where do you shop Rick? You strike me as one of those know it all guys from the south. And you're having trouble keeping your honey in clothes because you're spending all your cash mongering. Kmart? Walmart? I got ya Ricky, little fat kid that git bullied around and now is the biggest baddest anonymous mofo in the world. Yeah you're bad. You're a bad joke.

FruitNinja
02-16-13, 14:20
You just made my argument for me. Chicago is the armpit of America. No one cares about it. Full of ignorant fat sweaty middle America neckbeards. Next time you're in Phnom Penh see how many bar girls have heard of it and then get back to me.

The NYC metro is home to close to 10% of the US population, and is the world capital of finance, trade, media, entertainment and biotechnology. So yeah, it matters a little bit. Find someone in the world who hasn't heard of it and then get back to me.

Now go eat some greasy disgusting deep dish pizza and put a flannel shirt on for me and stop jocking my posts would ya? .

No, that's an incorrect assertion, not quite the same thing as a fact, but judging by your posts I could see where you'd be confused.

America's Most Diverse Metros.

1. San Jose, CA

2. New York, NY-NJ

3. Oakland, CA

4. Houston, TX

5. Honolulu, Hi,

6. Fort Lauderdale, FL

7. Orange County, CA

8. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

9. San Francisco, CA

10. Albuquerque, NM

No mentioned of Shitcago or any other Midwestern city. What a surprise!My guess is you don't even live in New York. I mean hell, you get upset when they overpay $3 at a Hot Toc, no way you're paying NYC prices. You're probably NJ with that other east coast big mouth Chris Christy. Talk about armpit.

Tiger 888
02-17-13, 01:16
I believe we should get back to pussy in PP and not talk about things completely irrelevant to this part of the world. Not to mention the personal attacks that are most uncalled for.

FreebieFan
02-17-13, 02:59
FF.

I realise you posted this in haste (because of the typos hehehe) but are you saying that you logged in to wifi and used the "wechat" app to find a girl somewhere close?

How did that go? Useful app?

How many did you meet that way?Tired, sleepy and was using a stone age computer when I typed. And yes I know lots of typos. 6 days of intense mongering took away the ability to spell check LOL.

I'm saying I logged into wechat, using the free wfi, did the " look around " thing and got chatting with a few Chinese in town for the holidays and a few Cambodians. Two were 17 and I had fun one evening whilst semi drunk, waiting for my lady of the night, teaching one 17 year old the correct meanings, useage of words such as "asshole, jerk, prick, pissed off " etc. She knew the words but wasnt sure of when and how to use." Was fun for 10 minutes.

I ended up meeting one Cambodian from a bar (best legs I ever saw, with bullet nipples that were really nice rubbing on my balls) and one Vietnamese who I decided against doing.

The look around function allows you to see how close a girl is.

Note though that many girls have stone age phones. Remember the old Nokia phones, that could ONLY talk and text, one battery charge would last 3 days. Those phones. Only the richer ones obviously have smart phones with internet capability.

Hopefully not a typo in site this morning. !

FreebieFan
02-17-13, 03:02
I've been semi-retire in SEA for over 10 years now, first 3 in Thailand and last 8 or so in Cambodia.

I love PP my neighbours are excellent, most of them work for the government and have helped me more than anyone ever did back home.

Just wait if you learn to speak K'mai you get most things for about half price that tourists are paying. Come here and retire and I'll get you set up brother with a few girlfriends, virgins if you want.

I go back to Thailand a few times a year to visit friends and do some mongering and I can't believe how much the prices for some shit has gone up there. Other stuff is the same price as 10 years ago, like rent, hotel rates, but food, beer, cars and girls wow prices have gone way up. Just a regular bar on Sukhumvit is over $3 now. In PP at a night club you'll pay less. I got a 6000 baht bill at I love NY in Pattaya. I'd be dead if I spent that much in a bar in PP.I have already put 2 months a year in Cambodia on my "to do " list. Manila 5 months a year, Pattaya 3 and PP 2 are now the certain ones. Just looking for one more place to round out my year.

Leftfield1965
02-17-13, 07:23
Do you think that of African Americans? Do you actually think that education is the only way to success? I don't have a degree. Poor child born in the hills of eastern Europe and I'll bury 95% of the US population in net worth and my knowledge of culture and history. Given an opportunity to hire someone I would hire that street smart Khmer before I would hire a know it all with 20 pieces of paper telling him "how smart he should be" If you look around you it's the racists that are usually of inferior brain power because they can't think reality but only heed the line they have been feed. Dust off that KKK outfit. I'm sure you're one of those that think the south will rise again.Do I think what of African Americans?

Yeah, I do think that most of the time education is the way to success, although there are of course exceptions.

You'd hire an illiterate street smart Khmer before you'd hire a university educated one? Good luck with your future business plans, but If I were you I'd think again before you head down that road.

And thanks for calling me a racist pal.

Been with my current Thai girlfriend for 6 1/2 years (and bought her a business to run) and have had a Khmer bit on the side for the last 12 months (whom I've also assisted in setting up a small business). So, that's at least 2 people (of different skin color) that I've helped out and who are now living a better life than the life they had before they met me. And that's not even counting their other family members who also benefit in some way.

Dust of my KKK outfit? Pfft, you might want to think twice next time you accuse someone of racism.

Leftfield1965
02-17-13, 07:45
BTW, Leftfields opinions are shared by I guess 95% of the foreigners living and working in Cambodia if my experience is anything to go on. So if this kind of stuff puts you off (as it should) , you'll want to avoid getting into conversations with the expat crowd. Not much different than the majority of the expats in Thailand, Philippines, etc, who all seem united in their hatred from the "lazy" locals (makes you wonder why they don't go the fuck home).Where have I ever stated my 'hatred' for lazy locals Rick?

The only hatred I have is hatred for the greedy corrupt arsholes in power who make sure the rich get richer and the poor stay poor (and uneducated).

And by the way, perhaps some (if not all) of those 95% of expats that you mention have every right to be bitching if they don't agree with something. Because you know, they actually live their daily lives there. As opposed to someone who forms an opinion because he's had a 2 week holiday in Cambodia.

FreebieFan
02-17-13, 07:48
Do I think what of African Americans?I'm always happy when the chat veers here and there, and have participated in discussions about driving styles, toilet styles, ATM machines, passports, car radios, sporting icons, etc etc in these ISG forums BUT. Will all participnts move the discussion about the US / Racism and whatever your various beefs are somwhere else. The forum doesn't have to be solely about sex as thats boring and lacking in interest, but enough of this " he said / she said " back and forth please.

Rick Rock
02-17-13, 08:02
My guess is you don't even live in New York. I mean hell, you get upset when they overpay $3 at a Hot Toc, no way you're paying NYC prices. You're probably NJ with that other east coast big mouth Chris Christy. Talk about armpit.Sure thing Simon.

FreebieFan
02-17-13, 09:13
Sure thing Simon.Jackson where are you when we need you. (and yes you just cashed my 10th year of US$19. 95 membership ). Can you moderate this ceaseless squabbling PLEASE.

Leftfield1965
02-17-13, 10:00
I'm always happy when the chat veers here and there, and have participated in discussions about driving styles, toilet styles, ATM machines, passports, car radios, sporting icons, etc etc in these ISG forums BUT. Will all participnts move the discussion about the US / Racism and whatever your various beefs are somwhere else. The forum doesn't have to be solely about sex as thats boring and lacking in interest, but enough of this " he said / she said " back and forth please.

No problem.

No more off topic stuff from me.

FruitNinja
02-17-13, 11:11
Tired, sleepy and was using a stone age computer when I typed. And yes I know lots of typos. 6 days of intense mongering took away the ability to spell check LOL.

Wechat.

Hopefully not a typo in site this morning. !One of the guys in our trip had it was pretty slick. It was in Vietnam so language was a big issue.

Cool

GooberMonger
02-17-13, 18:11
I have already put 2 months a year in Cambodia on my "to do " list. Manila 5 months a year, Pattaya 3 and PP 2 are now the certain ones. Just looking for one more place to round out my year.Sounds pretty good to me, like I said before I flip back and forth between Thailand and Cambodia.

The Philippines is ok if you can avoid the hurricane season and some other things that have turned me off a little. Other than Laos or Vietnam I don't think anywhere else is really worth the plane ticket, but Laos can be and hit and miss. Vietnam is a diamond in the ruff I think. Lots of potential and I love VN girls; it's just not too consistent right now. It does have a few spots that are getting better and better. Need some help from some other Mongers that know some good spots. Just watch the Internet Police when your there. Could be why places come and go so fast, big brother is watching you or maybe I'm just paranoid.

Nosy Be and surrounding countries are pretty good, but are they worth the flight? When your in Thailand I'd have to say no, because you can have lots of fun in counties next door or just the next town can have hidden treasures.

The Philippines have never been that popular for me, seems like every girl is a mother, married, divorced or has a pimp, unless she's twelve-teen. Even then you never know. Could be just my bad luck or shopping in the wrong area.

Cheers

AussieGuy100
02-18-13, 01:17
I have already put 2 months a year in Cambodia on my "to do " list. Manila 5 months a year, Pattaya 3 and PP 2 are now the certain ones. Just looking for one more place to round out my year.You could always have a couple of months away from Asia each year for some variety.

Brazil has some amazing adventurous girls, Kenya has gorgeous soft skinned beauties, and Peru can yield threesomes with mothers and daughters.

FreebieFan
02-18-13, 01:46
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The Philippines have never been that popular for me, seems like every girl is a mother, married, divorced or has a pimp, unless she's twelve-teen. Even then you never know. Could be just my bad luck or shopping in the wrong area.

CheersPhilippines is great for me, and as I have property there I will have no living costs. I know my way around, have friends and possible part time work there, know how to get ladies on a whim there, and all in all an ok place. As long as I have regualr trips out of the place.

FreebieFan
02-18-13, 01:48
You could always have a couple of months away from Asia each year for some variety.

Brazil has some amazing adventurous girls, Kenya has gorgeous soft skinned beauties, and Peru can yield threesomes with mothers and daughters.Good call. Kenya is probably top of that list. Will have to check out ISG. Have only been once.

GooberMonger
02-18-13, 06:16
Philippines is great for me, and as I have property there I will have no living costs. I know my way around, have friends and possible part time work there, know how to get ladies on a whim there, and all in all an ok place. As long as I have regualr trips out of the place.Yeah I have almost the same thing in Cambodia; I have property here, my house is paid for and I have work offered to me all the time. Not that I want it, I work for myself here and have good connections and good friends too. I had a friend tell me I'd like Cebu, but haven't had a chance to visit yet. He use to live there and I learnt a lot about SEA from him. R. I. P. My good friend; cancer is a terrible thing.

Cheers,

Dante2
02-19-13, 02:46
My first short impression of PP is that pontoon, walkabout, sorya mall etc. Are all much closer together than I expected, thats not something that is easily picked up on when reading this board, you can literally walk from one to the other to the other in 5 mins.

I don't know this to be true but that makes me think that the whole "sorya mall is only ugly fat washed up methheads" is probably an overreaction from some guys who walked through there one time and thats all they saw, but if its a 2 minute walk from these other "hot spots" its hard to believe that cute girls don't wander through there occasionally, in fact I saw a couple of decent ones in there last night, went with one she didn't rob me or seem like a druggy at all, was a little older with a recent baby but still not a bad experience.

But still calling total BS on rickrocks 30/30 BJ claim since both girls I asked last night said no, he says its just YMMV, I say he is talking out of hisatss because 30 is a pretty good sample size when just about everyone else finds things differently, my advice to you rick is that if you are going to lie at least try and make them believable, better yet don't so its easier for the casual readers to see through.

Oh and BTW is goober still banging 5 virgins in all 3 holes? He isn't mentioned it in the past 72 hours which is like a record I hope everything is still alright

Wendella
02-19-13, 08:12
If anyone can give info about Sihanoukville current status, please jump over to the Sihanoukville thread where I just posted my question.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3273-Sihanoukville&p=1388480#post1388480

Appreciate any news you have to share.

Please don't answer about it here though, best to keep the S'ville info over in that thread.

(sorry for posting here, just wanted to drum up some responses because it is pretty dead over in that thread, lots more people seem to check in over here lately)

THANKS

FreebieFan
02-19-13, 08:34
[QUOTE=Dante2; 1388414]My first short impression of PP is that pontoon, walkabout, sorya mall etc. Are all much closer together than I expected, thats not something that is easily picked up on when reading this board, you can literally walk from one to the other to the other in 5 mins.

I don't know this to be true but that makes me think that the whole "sorya mall is only ugly fat washed up methheads" is probably an overreaction from some guys who walked through there one time and thats all they sawQUOTE]

I walked through Soraya on a Sunday afternoon. Lots of uglies there, both men and women. Normal bald fat guys with wife beaters uniform, and the girls were very skanky. But on Monday night totally different crew both M / F sitting there, so yes YMMV.

The whole city is very small (at least as far as our interests are concerned).

I often walked from Walkabout to the River hotspots both night and day time with a US$ 0. 50 Anchor Draft beer break somewhere in the middle.

20 minute walk at most.

Much to the annoynce no doubt of the motorbike driver opposite Walkabout who EVERY time I walked out my hotel revved up and rushed up to offer me his services. I would often just glance at my legs, but he never quite got the message after 5 days and 15 tries that I preferred to walk.

Backtobasics
02-19-13, 09:41
I hope this doesn't trigger a barrage of claims, and counter claims, like the BJ discussion has done, but. It's a few years since I was in PP, and then I got around on motos. On my forthcoming trip I will switch to tuk tuks, and I'd be grateful if someone could tell me the going rates (day and night time) for trips between st 51 and the Riverfront, & between st 51 and the Hotel Cambodiana area.

Many thanks.