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TesterTester
01-23-15, 08:04
Does anyone know if you can pay for your visa with Thai Baht instead of USD when arriving at Phnom Penh airport?

Information on the net is dated or ambiguous.You definitely have to pay with USD.

BiziBoy2012
01-23-15, 09:14
Does anyone know if you can pay for your visa with Thai Baht instead of USD when arriving at Phnom Penh airport?

Information on the net is dated or ambiguous.Alternatively get your visa online and breeze through.

Cheers.

Happy mongering.

Pogostick
01-23-15, 14:35
Does anyone know if you can pay for your visa with Thai Baht instead of USD when arriving at Phnom Penh airport?

Information on the net is dated or ambiguous.I got lucky with that. All I had was Thai Baht. I gave them a 1000 baht bill. They handed back my passport, visa and US $25 change! I thanked them and moved on.

Shivajii
01-24-15, 06:09
You definitely have to pay with USD.Maybe he has to pay definitely with USD. I paid with yesterday. (but exchange rate 1:1 so not good).

And as stated above. Thai bhat also accepted, but 'course exchange advantage.

Is on their side.

Mogwai
01-25-15, 04:18
Thanks for your replies guys. I have already bought some USD here in Pattaya where I am now.

For a better rate than I thought. The difference between selling or buying USD is really small.

Ekspat
01-25-15, 08:56
Maybe he has to pay definitely with USD. I paid with yesterday. (but exchange rate 1:1 so not good).
Maybe a few months down the road with Mario Draghi we can consider 1:1 an excellent rate.

Kenny Rogers
01-27-15, 21:55
On my last day in PP I was strolling through riverside area about 7 pm, dropping into some of the bars. Gave The what Phnom area a try and found a rather cute 22-25 year old girl. 10 $ Shorttime in some nearby 2 USD hotel. Not really my style but warmed up to the evening.

Walking down the lower end of 110 street, some motodop approached me and tried to lure me into ""see nice girls". Alrite, why not, I thought.

After offering me a whole s*load of drugs (which I politely declined) he told me to give him my cell so that he could take some pics of the girls and then introduce me to the one I liked.

Well both my suspicions and my curiosity was aroused. Of course I did NOT give him my cell, although I carry an outdated and cleansed device with a 10 USD prepaid card and with NO personal data at all.

Well he reconsidered, took me around what Phnom (where I just got from), parked nearby and left to"get pics". Got back with an Iphone 3 and about 15-20 pics of girls. Some really cute 18-25.

Offered "100 USD". I turned away, he offered 50 and then 30. Apparently the deal was that I pick my girl, he drops me off at short time hotel and mamasan would bring the girl.

Well I gave him 2 USD for his troubles but decided to walk back to riverside, it sounded all too much like some kind of setup.

I do not carry much cash and no wallet, watch or fancy phone, and I am actually not afraid of strongarming a bit. Still. I would advise fellow punters to stay out of such deals.

BTW owing to handy biz travel (yay) I"ll be back in PP March 14th. If anyone would like to meet for a cold one I'm game.

Kenny Rogers
01-27-15, 21:57
Maybe a few months down the road with Mario Draghi we can consider 1:1 an excellent rate.Well a few YEARS from now on Italians might readopt the Lira. Euro goes down the drain in a hurry.

Mogwai
01-28-15, 14:26
Arrived in Phnom Penh Monday with Air Asia around 4:30 PM. Took a tuk tuk to my hotel around 5:15 PM so in the middle of rush hour. It took about one hour to get there. Now I don't mind that so much but the down side is you're inhaling 99% exhaust fumes and maybe 1% oxygen.

I was very tired so I didn't go out Monday night.

Tuesday night I went to Wat Phnom around 8:30 PM. Just out of curiosity. I didn't expect much of it based on the reviews here but I just wanted to know what the SW scene is like here in Cambodia compared to Thailand and the Philippines. Well, the quality and quantity were both not too bad. I think there were about 20+ girls sitting at the 'inner circle' of the roundabout around the Wat. No lookers of course but some were rather cute and I had a chat with 3 of them. I finally made a deal with a little spinner: 12 USD + 4 USD for a ST hotel. We took a motorbike and she directed him to a street about 10 minutes away (not far from Sorya Mall as I later found out). I think it was a bad sign that it was so far away so I was wary. But the ST hotel, a guesthouse, and the owners looked OK so I went upstairs with her.

But when I asked her for yum yum (BJ) she suddenly started to renegotiate. Probably because she had only offered massage + boom boom; I should have known. She wanted 20 USD but I didn't want to offer more than 15. She declined and when I found out I was not allowed to touch her anywhere and she refused DATY I had enough of it. So I got dressed again. She started yelling at me that I had to give her 10 USD for her time and the motorbike back. I said I would only give her 5 and that was already too generous. She called somebody and tried to block the door but that did not intimidate me. I gave her 5 dollar, pushed her aside and went downstairs. I could hear that someone answered her call and was a little worried that he (most likely) would await me downstairs but that was not the case. I walked a couple of blocks, nobody was following me, and I took a motorbike to the riverside. Phew!

To be continued....

Mogwai
01-28-15, 15:25
I popped into the Angry Birds Bar at Street 130 only to find out, once again, that I really don't like these hostess bars. But I just wanted to give it a try one more time. I guess I like to be more 'anonymous' and be able to pick a girl myself. In these hostess bars I get too much attention from girls that are not to my liking most of the time. And I have to admit I'm a little bit shy and not much of a talker.
The quality in the Angry Birds Bar was quite good but nevertheless I didn't feel at ease so I left after 10 minutes.

I went down the street to Sharky. Now that's a place that hasn't changed a bit in 6 years, everything looks still the same! Except for the ladies, the quantity and quality has certainly gone down compared to 6 years ago and the average age has gone up. Nevertheless there were a few cuties, maybe 3 or 4, and after my first drink I approached the youngest and prettiest one, an 8 in my book. (Yes, I know what you want to say but I'm not always shy. I feel more at ease in a place like Sharky, I'm more in control myself there.)
I could tell she was a bit surprised that I approached her but nevertheless she accepted it, I offered her and the friend she was with ('only' a 7) a drink and we had a chat. Initially the conversation was a bit stiff but the more we got to know each other the better it went. She was a typical Cambodian beauty, not a stunner but simply beautiful. Long black silky hair (not died in some strange colour), beautiful dark brown eyes and a sweet smile. And she was also a nice girl and quite intelligent and witty.

So far so good. But then after about 45 minutes she asked, suddenly a bit shy, if she could go with me. I said 'maybe' and asked how much she wanted for a ST of 1 or 2 hours.
She said 'how much can you give me?
Hmmm, always tricky. I thought about it for a moment and decided to start the negotiation quite low, so I said '20 dollars'.
She was shocked. Really, it was not an act. She was really shocked. She said 'look at me!'.
So I asked 'how much do you want then?'
She said '60, for 1 hour'.
Now I was the one who was shocked. I'm willing to pay that for an agogo stunner in Thailand (and then I negotiate 2 hours) but not for a FL in Cambodia, pretty or not (and in Sharky of all places, not really high end after all).
We negotiated a little bit more and finally she dropped to 50 but that was it. I said 'no way' and she went to the bathroom and didn't return to our table. End of story.

Muzungufotsy
01-29-15, 03:51
But when I asked her for yum yum (BJ) she suddenly started to renegotiate. Probably because she had only offered massage + boom boom; I should have known. She wanted 20 USD but I didn't want to offer more than 15. She declined and when I found out I was not allowed to touch her anywhere and she refused DATY I had enough of it. So I got dressed again. She started yelling at me that I had to give her 10 USD for her time and the motorbike back. I said I would only give her 5 and that was already too generous. She called somebody and tried to block the door but that did not intimidate me. I gave her 5 dollar, pushed her aside and went downstairs. I could hear that someone answered her call and was a little worried that he (most likely) would await me downstairs but that was not the case. I walked a couple of blocks, nobody was following me, and I took a motorbike to the riverside. Phew!Excuse me but you are telling me you are afraid of a 18 yo girl from the countryside and you gave her 5 $ for yelling at you and no service?

I would have kicked her out and give her nothing period.

I pay for a service not for BS excuse. Khmer girls can miam miam if they want to. They use that as an excuse because they are lazy and want money for nothing.

You gave her 5 $ for nothing then she would try that scam with another foreigner next time.

Be sure she wouldn't try this with a khmer guy because she would get a slap in her face.

Of course I would never do that but I would make sure she understands I'm in charge and not her.

In that case you call security and send her packing period. This is your room not hers.

Mogwai
01-29-15, 04:11
After the girl in Sharky 'ditched' me it was around 12 PM, the place was getting empty and all of the cuties were gone. So what next? I didn't have much luck this evening and I was a bit fed up with that. I thought about Martini but that's quite far away and I wasn't in the mood for the trip. So I decided to go to the Walkabout.

The 'line up' there was nothing to write home about and I was out of luck once again when another punter approached the only real cute girl present just a second before I was about to make my move. Damn!
I looked around, saw only a few doable girls, selected one with a sweet smile, made sure she would give me a BJ, agreed on 20 USD and off we went.
She was 26, her face was a 7 and she was friendly but her body was only a 6. She had quite severe stretch marks on her titties and belly. Her BJ was only average but she enjoyed DATY and she had a smooth and tight pussy that really 'grabbed' my dick. The harder I bonked her the harder she grabbed me and it felt great. I was horny after 2 days of 'celibacy' so I shot my load pretty quick. Ah, that's better!

The next day (yesterday) I took a look at Golden Sorya Mall. Tuesday afternoon I already went to Sorya Shopping Center because I thought that the reports here were referring to that Sorya. I was wondering 'FLs in Sorya? I can hardly believe that but okay let's have a look'. Of course I found nothing. So I re-read the reports and found out that you guys were talking about Golden Sorya, LOL!
Well, they can better replace 'golden' with 'bronze' or some other cheap metal. Geez, what a dump this place is. There were about a dozen girls hanging around there and they were nothing special. But maybe I was a bit too late (around 5 PM) so I might give it another try one of these days.
And maybe it was just a coincidence but the majority of these girls looked rather skinny.

Yesterday evening I was more lucky when a motorbike drove me to a local brothel. To be continued....

Mogwai
01-29-15, 05:59
Excuse me but you are telling me you are afraid of a 18 yo girl from the countryside and you gave her 5 $ for yelling at you and no service?

I would have kicked her out and give her nothing period.

I pay for a service not for BS excuse. Khmer girls can miam miam if they want to. They use that as an excuse because they are lazy and want money for nothing.

You gave her 5 $ for nothing then she would try that scam with another foreigner next time.

Be sure she wouldn't try this with a khmer guy because she would get a slap in her face.

Of course I would never do that but I would make sure she understands I'm in charge and not her.

In that case you call security and send her packing period. This is your room not hers.Of course I was not afraid for this tiny Khmer girl. But I was afraid for whoever she was calling (a male friend or pimp or more than one) would show up and beat the shit out of me. Things like that happen here as we all know.

And calling security? In a ST hotel run by Khmer guys? I don't think so.

But if you take the risk in such a case and kick her out, be my guest. I'm not such a hero (or fool).

Mogwai
01-29-15, 08:53
I wanted to find out if there are still 'barang friendly' local brothels, as a follow up to post #5739 up to and including #5742. So yesterday evening I went to street 63 where there used to be at least two back in 2009. They are indeed gone, as reported by Kenny Rogers, but I figured if I would ask a motorbike driver right there on the spot (they are always around after all) where all the ladies have gone he might point me in the right direction. And I was lucky. Although his English was limited the guy I asked apparently understood what I was talking about and mentioned the name of a place in Khmer. I said 'whatever, please take me there'.

At first I thought he was taking me to what Phnom but he drove further and went down Sisowath Quay. Aha, I think I know where we are going. And yes, he was going in the direction of the Cambodia-Japan Friendship Bridge. Not far before that bridge, after a school on the left side of the road, there are some 'massage parlors' (yeah right). Back in 2009 I went there a couple of times to 'do' a real sweety pie. So they are still there and if I remember correctly there are even a couple of parlors more now.

He stopped in front of one of the parlors, somewhere in the middle. It was clear he was going to get commission so I was prepared to pay a high(er) price. The friendly man and woman that run the place had 3 'sisters' as the man called them jokingly. Only one of them was pretty and although she didn't really smile she didn't gave me an unfriendly look either so I chose her. The woman quoted me 25 USD, I said 20 and she agreed.
The girl was 19, a little spinner with a flawless body and reasonably sweet and friendly. Her BBBJ was, once again, only average. To my surprise she accepted DATY and seemed to like it very much. I was even allowed to lick her sweet little butt hole, which she seemed to like even more. Pussy and butt hole were both immaculately clean by the way so it was a real pleasure to DATY.
CFS was OK. She was not really tight and didn't want to do doggy because of my size but her pussy felt good enough for me to finish after about 5 minutes.

I think I will go back there tonight to check out the other parlors.
On the way there I also saw girls sitting on benches on the right side of the road (Sisowath Quay). They must be working girls as I can think of no other reason for them to sit there. There's nothing to see or do around those benches.
However the bike was driving too fast and it was too dark to see their age and 'quality'.

Samui69
01-29-15, 13:36
Although I do walk a different path when I was in PP last November, I really do like your very detailed reports. Keep them coming Mogwai.


Arrived in Phnom Penh Monday with Air Asia around 4:30 PM. Took a tuk tuk to my hotel around 5:15 PM so in the middle of rush hour. It took about one hour to get there. Now I don't mind that so much but the down side is you're inhaling 99% exhaust fumes and maybe 1% oxygen.

I was very tired so I didn't go out Monday night.

Tuesday night I went to Wat Phnom around 8:30 PM. Just out of curiosity. I didn't expect much of it based on the reviews here but I just wanted to know what the SW scene is like here in Cambodia compared to Thailand and the Philippines. Well, the quality and quantity were both not too bad. I think there were about 20+ girls sitting at the 'inner circle' of the roundabout around the Wat. No lookers of course but some were rather cute and I had a chat with 3 of them. I finally made a deal with a little spinner: 12 USD + 4 USD for a ST hotel. We took a motorbike and she directed him to a street about 10 minutes away (not far from Sorya Mall as I later found out). I think it was a bad sign that it was so far away so I was wary. But the ST hotel, a guesthouse, and the owners looked OK so I went upstairs with her.

But when I asked her for yum yum (BJ) she suddenly started to renegotiate. Probably because she had only offered massage + boom boom; I should have known. She wanted 20 USD but I didn't want to offer more than 15. She declined and when I found out I was not allowed to touch her anywhere and she refused DATY I had enough of it. So I got dressed again. She started yelling at me that I had to give her 10 USD for her time and the motorbike back. I said I would only give her 5 and that was already too generous. She called somebody and tried to block the door but that did not intimidate me. I gave her 5 dollar, pushed her aside and went downstairs. I could hear that someone answered her call and was a little worried that he (most likely) would await me downstairs but that was not the case. I walked a couple of blocks, nobody was following me, and I took a motorbike to the riverside. Phew!

To be continued....

Mogwai
01-30-15, 04:02
Although I do walk a different path when I was in PP last November, I really do like your very detailed reports. Keep them coming Mogwai.Sure, I will keep me... sorry 'them' coming!
And I know you walked a different path, I've read your great stories on the Dutch forum. You focus more on the high end of P4 P.

Mogwai
01-30-15, 10:26
Last night I went back to Sisowath Quay near the Friendship bridge. However I could not find a girl to my liking, most of them were quite old and dogs, and I didn't want to repeat the girl I had yesterday. I'm trying to avoid repeats as I'm only here for one week. I could have booked for a longer time but I wasn't so sure if I would still like Phnom Penh after 6 years of absence. And I'm still not sure to be honest, despite the good experience I had later on last night. Things have definitely changed here and you can either choose to adapt to that, which takes time and effort, or not and move on.

As said I could not find a girl to my liking so I asked the motor driver if he knew similar places. 'Khmer or Vietnamese girls?' he asked. 'Doesn't matter' I said. Later I realized I should have said Vietnamese because the old brothels that are gone now had mostly (or even exclusively) Vietnamese girls.
He said he knew a place with pretty young girls. OK, go for it. He drove back to the centre and stopped in a small alley not far from Central Market. There was a mamasan with one girl: big breasted, a bit chubby, only average looking and around 25 yo. I asked if she had any other girls (I didn't want to say 'prettier'). Big breasted girl looked disappointed and the mama didn't look very pleased either but nevertheless she went away to 'collect' some other girls from god knows where. They showed up one by one but unfortunately they were all quite average.
There was one pretty girl. She came from upstairs in the brothel but she walked away quickly and shook her head when I pointed at her, LOL!
I decided to give it a try anyway and picked a sweet looking girl. Well, she was indeed very sweet and her body was OK but she really didn't have a clue how to turn on a man. Yum yum and DATY were not on the menu and she tried to get me hard with an unskilled HJ. In vain, it was useless. So I gave up after 5 minutes and left the place, leaving behind a puzzled looking Khmer girl.

It was around 9:30 PM and I decided to go to Sharky. It was quite full, there was a live band playing and the atmosphere was good. Apparently it's still a popular place. But the average age of the punters is 50 I think and the average age of the ladies is 35. But maybe I'm too kind here and it does not include the young girls who work there (some really cute).
About 80% of the ladies was MILF and average or below average, 10% was MILF and (reasonably) good looking and the remaining 10% consisted of younger girls who were average or good looking. All in all there were maybe 35 or 40 girls.
What strikes me was that the younger good looking girls were not 'jumped upon' by the punters. Apparently we have different taste or they were too shy. Good for me!

I was sitting close to the pool table and an attractive young and cheerful girl who was playing a game started to flirt with me. I liked her at first sight. In between the games she was playing she was sitting with me and we had a nice chat. It 'clicked' almost right away.
She told me she was from the province, 40 km from Phnom Penh, and was only in town for 3 days. She's 23, works in the textile industry and earns 200 USD a month. She lives with her mother and some siblings and has a 2 yo baby girl. The father ran off after 4 months of marriage. 'Cambodia men no good, drink too much, smoke too much, hit me, butterflies' etc. We all know the stories.
At first I was drinking orange juice and when I ordered a beer later on she looked concerned. Bad experiences with the combination men & alcohol I suppose. She looked reassured when I told her I would only drink one (I hardly ever drink more).

I took her to my hotel and we had a great session. She had a firm slightly chubby body, was a good kisser, and loved DATY. But above all she loved to fuck. Man, this was one of the horniest girls I've ever met. We fucked like rabbits for half an hour until I shot my load on her firm but nicely shaped butt.
We both cleaned up, laid down on the bed and cuddled a bit. After 5 minutes she started playing with my dick and wanted a second round already. I hardly ever do that, one round is usually enough for me, but she was so damn horny that I gave in. We fucked for another 15 minutes and then I had enough. She didn't but hey who's paying who here? LOL!

I slipped 20 USD in one of her trouser pockets. We had not discussed a price beforehand. In the elevator downstairs she asked for another 10 USD. '20 for mama and 10 for me' she said. Who can resist that when you just had a great session with a lovely sweet lady. I can't. And beside that I can understand she wants to make as much money as possible in the 3 days she's here.

Muzungufotsy
01-31-15, 04:31
Of course I was not afraid for this tiny Khmer girl. But I was afraid for whoever she was calling (a male friend or pimp or more than one) would show up and beat the shit out of me. Things like that happen here as we all know.

And calling security? In a ST hotel run by Khmer guys? I don't think so.

But if you take the risk in such a case and kick her out, be my guest. I'm not such a hero (or fool).It doesn't happen to me because I try not to find myself in this kind of situation.

You did 2 mistakes. The first one you already told about it you weren't precise enough about the service she would provide.

If a girl tells me she will provide miam miam and boum boum (they all understand that here more than BJ for sure) once in the room if she doesn't provide what she promised the deal is off. I kicked her out. Period. That way they will understand we are in charge not them.

Second mistake you let her choose the ST hotel. So she s still in her comfort zone and you are not because you are afraid she might call a guy she knows. In that case if you don't want to bring her back to your hotel choose a ST hotel yourself give the guy 1 $ at the reception and tell him if there s problem with lady you come to help me. That way you feel safe and you can enjoy.

Mogwai
01-31-15, 08:20
It doesn't happen to me because I try not to find myself in this kind of situation.

You did 2 mistakes. The first one you already told about it you weren't precise enough about the service she would provide.

If a girl tells me she will provide miam miam and boum boum (they all understand that here more than BJ for sure) once in the room if she doesn't provide what she promised the deal is off. I kicked her out. Period. That way they will understand we are in charge not them.

Second mistake you let her choose the ST hotel. So she s still in her comfort zone and you are not because you are afraid she might call a guy she knows. In that case if you don't want to bring her back to your hotel choose a ST hotel yourself give the guy 1 $ at the reception and tell him if there s problem with lady you come to help me. That way you feel safe and you can enjoy.Yes I know yum yum and boom boom (or however you spell it) are the appropriate words to use here.

I'll keep your advice in mind about the hotel. This was the first time I picked up a SW in Phnom Penh and I don't know any ST hotels around here. So that's why I asked her but with hindsight I should have taken her to my own hotel.

Mogwai
01-31-15, 14:11
Yesterday evening I asked one of the tuk tuk drivers in front of my hotel if he knew houses with Vietnamese ladies. He was hesitating for a moment but said yes finally.
First he drove me to Wat Phnom and pointed out the ladies hanging around there. I said 'this is not what I meant' and I tried to explain it again. Then he drove to Sisowath Quay. I asked him if he was heading for the bridge and he said yes. By then it was really clear that he didn't understand what I was talking about.
He said he could 'deliver' Vietnamese girls to my hotel but I declined and asked him to bring me to Martini.

By the way, I can now confirm that the ladies sitting on the benches at Sisowath Quay are indeed WGs. A couple of them said hello and waved at me when we passed them. The quality was not too bad I think. Most of them were alone or in small groups of 2 or 3 girls. One bench with 3 girls was accompanied by a man, most likely their pimp.
They are sitting on the right side of Sisowath Quay, not far from street 94.

Furthermore I think there are some brothels (maybe 2 or 3) in street 49, between street 154 and 144 on the left hand side. This is close to Golden Sorya and the Heart of Darkness.
There are girls sitting outside in front of a few houses. Now that is not unusual of course but these girls look very much like WGs. However they did not invite me in although some of them made eye contact for a brief moment. So it looks like barangs are not welcome.
So basically I'm making you guys happy with a dead sparrow now, as the saying goes in Holland LOL! (that is if you like these kind of venues anyway).

I arrived at Martini around 10:15 PM and the place was packed. OK, I'm exaggerating a little bit but there were not that many empty tables anymore. They had live music and a magician. The music was rather good, the magician not really (but who cares?).
And that nice short guy (short in the meaning of Randy Newman's song Short People) is still sitting in front of the entrance asking for some change. People who go there frequently will know who I mean. (Now you can't get that song out of your head for the rest of the day, sorry for that.).

Quite a lot of Korean / Japanese blokes there and the type of girls they like. Quite a lot of cuties.
One girl was eying me and trying to get my attention from the moment I arrived and since she was rather good looking I invited her over to my table. We had a chat for about half an hour and seemed to have some chemistry so I took her to my hotel. But the session was only mediocre. She was a nice girl with a good body but she was also a real pro. It was not bad but it was far from a GFE. Damage 30 USD.

Buko Max
01-31-15, 15:05
The next day (yesterday) I took a look at Golden Sorya Mall. Tuesday afternoon I already went to Sorya Shopping Center because I thought that the reports here were referring to that Sorya. I was wondering 'FLs in Sorya? I can hardly believe that but okay let's have a look'. Of course I found nothing. So I re-read the reports and found out that you guys were talking about Golden Sorya, LOL!
Well, they can better replace 'golden' with 'bronze' or some other cheap metal. Geez, what a dump this place is. There were about a dozen girls hanging around there and they were nothing special. But maybe I was a bit too late (around 5 PM) so I might give it another try one of these days.
And maybe it was just a coincidence but the majority of these girls looked rather skinny.Nice series of reports Mogwai! From my experience, the activity at Golden Sorya mall gets going in the evening and many of the skinny girls are on drugs! The disco there which gets going quite late can yield good results.

James02
02-01-15, 01:36
Hi,

Is it true they have girls that are pimped from the back of a motorbike in this area.

Mogwai
02-01-15, 03:21
Nice series of reports Mogwai! From my experience, the activity at Golden Sorya mall gets going in the evening and many of the skinny girls are on drugs! The disco there which gets going quite late can yield good results.Thanks. I had understood from some reports here that Golden Sorya is a place to go to in the afternoon.
And the disco you're talking about is Pontoon I suppose? That's not my thing but thanks for the tip anyway.

Mogwai
02-01-15, 08:51
Hi,

Is it true they have girls that are pimped from the back of a motorbike in this area.If you mean the Golden Sorya Mall area: I don't know. But anyway it's not advisable because you'll be dealing with greedy pimps most of the time.

Kenny Rogers
02-01-15, 14:26
If you mean the Golden Sorya Mall area: I don't know. But anyway it's not advisable because you'll be dealing with greedy pimps most of the time.If you scroll down this thread you'll see that this topic was raised before.

First, your motodop or Tuk-Tuk driver will get a commission. Second, the pimps want to get paid in advance which is unusual in Cambo. Third, you'll more likely NOT Get what you want-a mediocre short-time pop at best.

If you're into the cheap lane, go to the inner circle of Wat Phnom between 6 and 9 pm.

Kenny Rogers
02-01-15, 14:27
Thanks. I had understood from some reports here that Golden Sorya is a place to go to in the afternoon.
And the disco you're talking about is Pontoon I suppose? That's not my thing but thanks for the tip anyway.It's either Pontoon around the corner or HoD (Heart of Darkness) just opposite of Sorya mall.

Kenny Rogers
02-01-15, 14:30
Nice series of reports Mogwai! From my experience, the activity at Golden Sorya mall gets going in the evening and many of the skinny girls are on drugs! The disco there which gets going quite late can yield good results.My experience is that not just the skinny girls are on drugs. The real skinny ones are just into that for a longer time.

Probably 75% of the working girls are taking something at least every now and then. If that's a no-go factor for you than you'll really need to look long and hard over there.

James02
02-02-15, 03:04
If you mean the Golden Sorya Mall area: I don't know. But anyway it's not advisable because you'll be dealing with greedy pimps most of the time.I don't know which area it is in but I have just heard stories about it that is all.


If you scroll down this thread you'll see that this topic was raised before.

First, your motodop or Tuk-Tuk driver will get a commission. Second, the pimps want to get paid in advance which is unusual in Cambo. Third, you'll more likely NOT Get what you want-a mediocre short-time pop at best.

If you're into the cheap lane, go to the inner circle of Wat Phnom between 6 and 9 pm.So are you saying I'm just going to get ripped off!

In this instant I was not inquiring about the cheap lane I was more after the specialized sacred girl.

LifeIsABeach
02-02-15, 06:07
It's either Pontoon around the corner or HoD (Heart of Darkness) just opposite of Sorya mall.Recent reports say that HoD is more gay than straight.

Mogwai
02-02-15, 07:38
My experience is that not just the skinny girls are on drugs. The real skinny ones are just into that for a longer time.

Probably 75% of the working girls are taking something at least every now and then. If that's a no-go factor for you than you'll really need to look long and hard over there.Do you mean 75% of the girls hanging around at Sorya? Or 75% in general? That sounds like a lot but 75% of the Sorya girls could be true.

Yes, junkies are a no-go factor for me. Real junkies anyway, I don't mind if they take some party drug occasionally.

I was at Sorya yesterday evening and although some of the girls look rather cute I still had my doubts and didn't take one. The whole scene is a bit seedy, including most of the punters I must say.

AskeAske
02-02-15, 20:41
Do you mean 75% of the girls hanging around at Sorya? Or 75% in general? That sounds like a lot but 75% of the Sorya girls could be true.

Yes, junkies are a no-go factor for me. Real junkies anyway, I don't mind if they take some party drug occasionally.

I was at Sorya yesterday evening and although some of the girls look rather cute I still had my doubts and didn't take one. The whole scene is a bit seedy, including most of the punters I must say.Many of the girls from Sorya is addicted to drugs, but not 75%. I have repeatedly taken different FL home from Sorya. Must of them I meet in bar in Sorya. $ 20 LT. Cute and sweet girls. Some of them have been more semi-pro. Working as FL once a week to get the money to strike. It's easy to avoid the drugsheads.

Kenny Rogers
02-02-15, 23:42
Do you mean 75% of the girls hanging around at Sorya? Or 75% in general? That sounds like a lot but 75% of the Sorya girls could be true.

Yes, junkies are a no-go factor for me. Real junkies anyway, I don't mind if they take some party drug occasionally.

I was at Sorya yesterday evening and although some of the girls look rather cute I still had my doubts and didn't take one. The whole scene is a bit seedy, including most of the punters I must say.Mogwai, I trust that you've been around long enough to identify a real junkie. These however are rare and not very visible in Asia.

Even the girls in Martini, LE Cyrcee and the bars around 13 o street like to do some "ce" as meth is called there. This goes in particular for those girls whom you would NOT suspect to do it since they're real pretty and quite lookers. Some. Maybe most? - of these have regular dayjobs, though and ice gets you going.

If you can identify a girl from 1st or 2nd look as a druggie then she's likely on the road to hell for good. As for those who like sometimes or more often to snort, well, I don't care, although I usually make clear that I do not want to be associated with drugs of any kind.

I had to laugh when you said that "the whole scene is a bit seedy". It's not meant as an offense, quite the contrary, but what's seedy or not depends on one's personal judgment, and probably guys like you and me look quite seedy to some do-gooders.

Kenny Rogers
02-02-15, 23:47
Many of the girls from Sorya is addicted to drugs, but not 75%. I have repeatedly taken different FL home from Sorya. Must of them I meet in bar in Sorya. $ 20 LT. Cute and sweet girls. Some of them have been more semi-pro. Working as FL once a week to get the money to strike. It's easy to avoid the drugsheads.AskeAske,

I'm not saying that I have it all figured out, but I noticed that some girls which I've met occasionally for 2 years or more do it occasionally, although they always insisted they don't. I guess the girls adapt to punter's expectations. Some of us are against drugs of any kind and some like to use it for a better kick. A friend of mine is into that and he hung out with some of the girls I was with, too.

But then, there definitely ARE the semi-pros or amateurs who steer clear of anything drug related. You're definitely right there.

Kenny Rogers
02-02-15, 23:53
Recent reports say that HoD is more gay than straight.I've been to HoD about a dozen times in mid-December and mid-January. On a few occasions I have indeed seen gays, although being gay is mostly frowned upon in Asia and definitely is in PP. On other occasions I haven't. I can"t say whether PP has a gay scene who meets there every now or then, but from what I had seen the gays are not dominating that club. You can still go there, have a few drinks and look for hot chicks without feeling displaced or weird.

As long as a club is not dominant gay (which indeed would make me feel weird and taking business elsewhere) I say "to each his own".

Goatscrot
02-03-15, 02:37
I've been to HoD about a dozen times in mid-December and mid-January. On a few occasions I have indeed seen gays, although being gay is mostly frowned upon in Asia and definitely is in PP. On other occasions I haven't. I can"t say whether PP has a gay scene who meets there every now or then, but from what I had seen the gays are not dominating that club. You can still go there, have a few drinks and look for hot chicks without feeling displaced or weird.

As long as a club is not dominant gay (which indeed would make me feel weird and taking business elsewhere) I say "to each his own".Being gay is frowned upon in Asia? Have you spent any time in Bangkok?

Simian
02-03-15, 20:27
Being gay is frowned upon in Asia? Have you spent any time in Bangkok?And what about all the ladyboys? They are in Phnom Penh too.

And the monarch?

Kenny Rogers
02-12-15, 22:25
Being gay is frowned upon in Asia? Have you spent any time in Bangkok?LOL yes, I have. Maybe too much time in Khrung Thep. I am with the Thais there and see Kathoeys as the 3rd gender. Ladyboys are ladyboys. That's not gay to me.

You would be surprised how many Thais accept Kathoeys as they are but frown about about men doing men.

Sure PP and Philippines have their share of Ladyboys too, but again, it is, or is at least seen as, something different.

Buko Max
02-13-15, 09:17
Thanks. I had understood from some reports here that Golden Sorya is a place to go to in the afternoon.
And the disco you're talking about is Pontoon I suppose? That's not my thing but thanks for the tip anyway.Golden Sorya has activity at all hours of the day and night! The disco I'm referring to starts up very late (or early as the case may be) in Golden Sorya. It is a drinking establishment that morphs into a disco. Forgot the name of the place.

Kenny Rogers
02-13-15, 19:44
Golden Sorya has activity at all hours of the day and night! The disco I'm referring to starts up very late (or early as the case may be) in Golden Sorya. It is a drinking establishment that morphs into a disco. Forgot the name of the place.I guess you mean Mao's. They have moved to Sisowath (upper part near night market). All the bars at Golden Sorya Mall ahve music but none would qualify as a disco or club. You can sit, watch TV, play pool, eat and drink and hook up with girls. Open from about. 3 pm to 3 am or thereabouts, I think.

In the non-open parts (corridors right and left of the open atrium) there are gaming rooms which attract mainly young locals.

Forever69
02-14-15, 12:04
I guess you mean Mao's. They have moved to Sisowath (upper part near night market). All the bars at Golden Sorya Mall ahve music but none would qualify as a disco or club. You can sit, watch TV, play pool, eat and drink and hook up with girls.G-Pub? Some go there when pontoon closes.

Georgie45
02-20-15, 10:59
Hi all,

I will be visiting Phnom Penh soon. I was wondering how big the P4P scene in Phnom Penh. How many hostess bars are there and how many freelancers are there in the discos and riverfront?

ThomKatt
02-20-15, 11:40
Hey Brothers,

I just wanted to post this quick cautionary tale of my experience last night. I had arrived into PP during the day, and was going to check out a few of the sites that were discussed here. I am staying at the nana hotel. Funny story, while I got out of my clothes and just layed in my boxer briefs to cool off on the bed, a cute cleaning lady walked right in to drop off a towel. She was surprised and shocked to see someone in here, and even more shocked to see me almost nude. But she noticed that I was not embarrassed by it, and that I was a fit and handsome man. So she came back in, and left the towel on my feet, giggling and saying sorry the whole time. Anyways, This was Thursday, and as expected, not all the places were busy. It's around 9, so I first went to the Golden Sorya mall, which isn't a bad place to just hang out. I ate at cafe 51, had a jug of Cambodia beer and some beef loklak. Service was decent, the dish was good, but the beer was bad. It's expected in Southeast asia, all of the beer in hot and humid areas are for refreshment purposes. Not a lot of girls here, and the ones that were, were occupied with older caucasion men, sometimes two guys to one girl. I got zero attention here. Also, the girls werent good looking, they were either old, chubby, or both. Some of them were super thin, looked like they may be drug addicts.

Anyways, so I make my way over to pontoon club, the place was pretty empty. I say about 20 people in total were in here. It's not a bad dance club, the service is pretty good here. Ordered a beer, and checked out the talent. The girls were a lot better looking here, but they just gave me long distance glances, no smiles or stares, which made me think that they may not be WGs. I had a couple of cute chinese girls sit right next to me, which one of them spilled their drink on me. I spoke to them for a little bit with my broken mandarin, but I wasnt really interested in hooking up with tourists, as my priorities always lie with local women or the local scene.

I then head over to Shanghai bar. Not a lot of people in here either. I thought it was closed based on how dark the doors and windows were. I had a conversation with some fellow mongers about the experiences in saigon. The girls here weren't great looking. They were on the older or heavy side. But they had a really friendly demeaner, and I ended up chatting one up. I bought her a angkor stout so I can try it without having to drink the whole thing myself. I ordered a shot of vodka for the both of us and headed to Heart of Darkness. It's about midnight now.

This was a pretty packed place. However, this is a gay club. I saw so many guys grinding up on each other. I was super shocked. I talked to one of the girls sitting at the bar, she was a local and spoke no english, and asked her if this was a gay club. She didn't understand. So I go to the dance floor and point to two dudes trying to set their pants on fire with their crotches. She laughed pretty hard. I asked the bartender if this was a gay club, he said he can't stop them from coming in. They are paying customers. I'm not offended that it's a gay club or that there are gay patrons, I was wondering if it's "THE" club for gays to hangout. Anyways, I finish my drink and leave.

I'm in a pretty good and fun mood right now. So I grab a tuktuk to street 104. My driver was a pretty cool guy, so I offered to buy him a drink. We head into Air Force one bar. It wasn't that busy, so immediately, I got the attention of most of the girls in here. There was an absolutely gorgeous girl here, and her name is Anna, or maybe spelled Anh Nah. I said I don't believe her, and she says I will bet you a drink if my name isn't Anna. I say ok, if you can prove it, I will buy you a drink. Here's when things get crazy:

Somehow, she forgot her I'd, so she "buys" me a drink. I watch her get this beer, but there's something being said to the bartender. I drink the beer, but something wasn't right, I started to feel hazy, but I thought it was because of all the drinks I had. I've been binge drinking for the past month, and I weigh 185 lbs of muscle, with a super fast metabolism, and did 7 years in the military. I can handle my alcohol, and definitely know my limits and know when to stop. Another girl comes and bets me a shot to play connect four. I'm getting slow, and hazy, and lose. I had to buy her a shot, and she brings one for me, jaegermeister I believe. Anna asks if I want to play pool and I agree. She bets me 2 shots that she can beat me. I'm pretty damn good at pool, so I agree. During this time, I chit chat with her and asks if she barfines, and she says: "Of course! So I was dead set on sessioning with her later in the night. She's got a beautiful face, and curvy hips, bcup boobs, and a friendly and fun personality. I then beat her at pool. She brings me two shots of vodka, and takes two herself. I then play another girl, but I'm getting dumb, and my vision is cloudy. I lose. I had to buy her two shots, but she brings two shots for me. Tequila this time. I'm starting to feel pretty sick in my stomach. I stop playing pool and let my driver take over for me so I can have a rest. If my driver beats them, they buy us drinks, but if we win, they buy us drinks. He wins one and loses the other. However, when I was playing pool, he was cheering for them to win. I was having a good time with the guy, and he was nice. He was going to take me sight seeing tomorrow. So I thought I had a wingman for the night. After drinking more shots, and them taking more shots, I get super sick and go to the bathroom. I puke my guts out. My driver comes in to see if I'm okay, I'm not. I will need a few minutes to recover. However, now my stomach is erupting, and I have diarhea. I sit on the toilet to sh*t, at the same time, throwing up in the waste basket. Here's where the real con takes place. One of the trolls that works there, short and ugly, starts pounding on the door. I tell her give me a minute. She yells that she has to use the toilet. But there are other toilets available! I'm super sick at this point, and she can use a toilet anywhere else, I need to use this one. I'm assuming she wants me to pay the bill, so I took out one of my $100 bills and throw it over the top, and tell her to go away. But she throws it back to me. Which is strange, and I think she really needed to use the toilet. This enrages me. I finish up, and storm out to pay my bill and leave. When they bring me the bill, I handed them $100 without looking at it, assuming it will cover all of it. The troll ***** says no, it's $295! I can't believe this. That's ludacris. Apparently, all of the drinks that were "betted" were not payed for by the girls. They were just bringing them over to me, and charged ridiculous prices for them and leaving me to pay the whole thing. I didn't win any free drinks. And if my drinks were spiked, then I was too drugged to notice. Or if they wanted to get me too drunk to realize what was happening, which is why she rushed me out of the bathroom, so I'm in a terrible state to know. I got conned big time. Infuriated, I took out another $200 and threw it at her face, making her pick it up. I said: "you're a dumb, cheap, working girl. I'm going to tell all of my friends, and everyone about this place to not come here. ".

She brings me my change, and I storm out with my driver. He brings me back to nana, and I'm bitching him out the whole time for not watching my back, and for letting me get ripped off. I don't pay him anything at the end of the night, he can go collect it from those girls.

I haven't had the greatest experience in south east asia, and this is just another hiccup in my secret mongering life. I know getting scammed and ripped off with bad experiences is expected, it comes with the territory. To be honest, $300 is not a lot of money. On average, that's how much the girls in San Francisco get for 1 hour of service. Also, I blow through more than that when I go to the clubs, or go out drinking. I did have a good time, and the girls had a good outgoing attitude, I would have loved to session with anna though. At the end of the day, it's money. I payed a price to learn a lesson.

What I feel upset about is that I fell for the trap. I've mongered in 12 different countries. Some very dangerous and super sketchy, so I'm always on my wits. But I think I let my guard down when anna smiled at me, and I didn't think tiny khmer girls can hustle a hustler. It's really the principle, if they were upfront about it, we all could have had a great time, but they had to pull the fast one on me. I also feel bad that I probably jacked up the prices for people who will visit the place after me, since they got away with it. I'm sure I'm not the first that they did this to, and certainly not the last. But if I put this information out there, it will help a lot of you to avoid situations like this. I never thought I'd be the one writing about it, I always thought guys that writes posts like these were suckers. Guess I'm the sucker now!

I'm going to try again tonight, and will post a FR soon after. Happy mongering!

PolyOrchid
02-20-15, 12:05
I just wanted to post this quick cautionary tale of my experience last night. Drink like a fish, and you become shark bait. Most problems I have seen all over the world involve stupid amounts of alcohol. Better luck tonight.

ThomKatt
02-20-15, 13:42
Just a few edits.

I called her a "dumb, cheap, hoar". ISG edited my word that begins with a W.

Also, at the end of the day, it's JUST money. I'm not going to cry over it. I've spent more on dumber things.

Member #4351
02-20-15, 15:30
Also, at the end of the day, it's JUST money. I'm not going to cry over it. I've spent more on dumber things.It could have ended up much worse for you. You were lucky you got off just paying $300.

Surfer500
02-20-15, 19:12
Arrived about 3 PM today with my wingman. Hired a tuk tuk driver for $ 10 to give me and my wingman a tour of the places with girls near the Ohana hotel. My wingman pulled a girl out of Walkabout Bar who quoted him $ 20 short time and overnight $ 40.

I went down to the Sorya mall on the opposite side of the street from the Heart of Darkness to check it out. An interesting place with a game arcade, bars, eating places, etc. I was there about 11 PM and there where some cute girls in the place sitting around and playing pool and games. Some of the girls looked as though they might be drug addicts. I walked around and came upon a girl sitting alone drinking a beer who was cute with a nice body. She invited me to join her, and after some small talk I asked her if she wanted to go with me. I asked her how much she wanted and she said whatever. Since I speak no Cambodian I had the waitress tell her I would giver her $ 20 for a few hours. She immediately accepted and off we went to my hotel. Wow, passionate and loving with nipples double the size of eraser heads.

Got her number and will hookup with her again. Also went to Sharkys around 10 PM and it was a sausage fest and will not go back. Also was not impressed with the girls in Walkabout Bar.

AussieGuy100
02-21-15, 02:48
It could have ended up much worse for you. You were lucky you got off just paying $300.That's right. There have been many reports locally of customers' bills being 'padded' or inflated at Airforce Bar and a few others nearby. And if you try and leave without paying the full amount there, Airforce has a very nasty security guy who can beat the sh*t out of you.

Airforce used to be THE bar to go to, but no longer.

Whilst I realise you are going round the hostess bars to have a great time, either have a wingman who will look after you or try and not get absolutely, paralytically, vomiting drunk in them. You leave yourself wide open to get cheated, mugged, or beaten up.

Bundanko
02-21-15, 06:15
Hi all,

I will be visiting Phnom Penh soon. I was wondering how big the P4P scene in Phnom Penh. How many hostess bars are there and how many freelancers are there in the discos and riverfront?Try the bar streets around Street 136 Phnom Penh. There are hundred of bars, some open for 24 hours and drink as cheap as US75 cent a bottle. Girls are plenty and many look below 18, and price is about US50. Just ask for prices before ordering or bar fining the girls to avoid being ripped off.

ThomKatt
02-21-15, 07:06
I pretty much knew that the expats and veterans of this city would be quick to come and give me $h!t about my experience. That's how people are, they see the place they chose to live or retire and someone talks bad about it, it's like a direct assault on them personally. Am I new this whole thing? I know what the effects of alcohol are, and the situations that can arise from too much of it. Try mongering in the most dangerous non-warzone country, and being the only asian in a 1000 mile radius. I know what I'm doing. I've read all of the posts from the past 10 pages, and I have not seen anyone write anything about that bar padding the bill, unless there's another forum that I'm unaware about.

I woke up yesterday with no hangover, and no stomach ache. I think I might have had food poisoning from the beef luklak. Unfortunately, I have a pretty sensitive stomach ever since my appendix burst, even the slightest contaminated food will destroy me. Regardless, I wasn't going to let that bad night bring me down. I'm looking for some local talent, and was determined to bang my frustration out. But my God, was I ever love struck with that girl Anna. After some sight seeing, I head out to get some dinner at Sophy's noodles. There's a super cute tiny girl that works there, with excellent English skills. I have some mixed vegetables with rice, and a raw beef khmer salad, with a jug of beer. Afterwards, I head out to nay nay star. It was empty, just a couple of guys in there, and they were occupied with most of the girls. Most of the girls in here weren't attractive, but they're not pushy at all. I order a beer, and one of the girls sits with me. She's cute, super thing, but very limited english. We talk for a bit, but I'm exhausted from all of the sight seeing, so I wasn't really in the mood to do much. So I order a red bull to help perk me up. A nap would have been amazing right there and then. I met an expat there, and he told me about the scene, and which bars were good. The girl I was with kept asking me to go smoke with her, something called Ai, or yamai, or something. I'm thinking she's a drug addict, which probably explains why she's so skinny. For 20 minutes she kept asking me to go do this. I get annoyed, pay my bill and head out to street 104.

I told myself I was not going to go back to air force bar, but I had a desire to get an explanation for what the hell happened last night. At a minimum, I was going to walk by and wave Hello, to show that it didn't really bother me. I start at Rose bar. This place was packed and lively. Tons of girls, a good amount of guys. I order jack and coke, and will be drinking that for the rest of the night, as the beer in Cambodia is horrendously bad. A few good looking girls, but the rest were okay looking. The bartender wanted me to play jenga with them, and if I lost, I have to buy a round, but if I win, they all buy a round for me. Yeah, been there, done that. No way, jose. Not falling for that again. Some of the girls try talking to me, but I wasn't really interested. I leave and head to zanzibar.

Come in, 2 guys in the corner were occupied by about 6 girls. I have one girl on me the entire time, giving me a massage, but I was definitely not interested at all. I even jokingly told her that I was gay, she got the hint. A couple of other girls come and try to chat me up. Once again, the girls in here weren't great looking. It's about 10 pm on a Friday night. I was expecting the bars to be more lively and packed. Where is everyone? I finish my drink and head to the next place, which was onezerofour.

This place had about 6 girls, and only 1 other guy in here. I had a cute girl sit next to me, but she spoke zero english. I'm starting to wonder if this is going to be a recurring theme all night. Some okay looking girls in here, right now, I'm thinking I will either return to rose bar or here to pick a girl. But I wanted to see what other options are available, there's a lot of bars left to go, but they could all be empty as well or not have great looking girls. I hear live music coming from a bar near the end of the street, it's Oscars, which is right next to Air Force. As I walk past Air Force, there were 2 girls sitting outside, but none of them were from the night before. I wave Hello, with a smile. Oscars was packed and had a live band that was playing covers and I think their own songs. A cambodian group, which is cool to see. I saw a beautiful girl sit outside with another girl. She was the best looking girl I've seen all night. I was going to get a drink and go chat her up. Unfortunately, as she came in, a guy grabbed her up. And she was occupied with him the rest of my time there. Damn. No one came to talk to me, all the same, I wasn't interested in any of them. The bartenders are pretty cool here.

As I leave, and was going to head to top ten bar, I walk past air force bar, the troll from the night before comes out and spots me and starts yelling to me. In a calm manner, I came over and asked her what happened last night. She told me that I got super drunk and was being disrepectful and made a mess in the bathroom. I asked her why she didn't just let me use the bathroom. She tells me it was the tuktuk driver that was banging on the door, and forcing the girls to bang on the door and yell at me. They said they were "concerned" about me, they thought that I might be dead. How can I be dead, if I'm responding to them, and yelling back at them? All I wanted was some time to use the bathroom. I asked them why my bill was $295? And they explained that the bill was only $94, but apparently the first $100 bill that I gave them were in a terrible condition, so they wanted other ones, thinking I was trying to pay with counterfeit bills. I never bring my wallet with me, only keep enough cash on me all day, so it's in my back pocket getting soaked in sweat and me sitting on them all day. Sometimes it gets crumpled or folded up. Cambodia has this law where if the bills aren't brand new, they won't take it, especially the case for large bills. I had this issue in PP airport when I tried to pay for my visa with $100 bills. They said the first one was "too old", referring to the old style $100 bills. And didn't take the new version because it was a little worn. I had to pay the visa fee in dong, but got duped on the currency exchange at 800,000 VND. Anyways, I asked her then where is the $200? She said she gave it to the tuktuk driver. I ask her why the hell did you do that? She said "he's your friend, I thought he was taking care of you". This was the same excuse she used as to why she was banging on the door, because he told her to, and she thought he was my friend. How can he be my friend? He's my driver, and a local. I'm the paying customer, not him, you do what I say, not him. I did feel that I handled the situation the night before immaturely, and being raised by women, I shouldn't have disrepected them, by throwing money in her face, and telling them all to fuck off. The whole bar saw that happen.

After some more talking, some of the other girls from the night before comes out, and we all talk for a while about what happened. I apologized for my behavior, asked them if we were okay, and if we can put it behind us. They accepted and invited me in to hang out. And then anna comes out, and right then and there, I didn't care what happened last night. I immediately fell in love. My goodness, I honestly haven't felt this way about a girl since a few years ago in central america. I had to have this girl, and I had to make sure I was in good with the other girls to make sure I can barfine her. It's the equivalent of disarming the mother hen or the fat girl to get to her hot friend (s). I accepted their invitation and ordered another jack and coke. We sit down and start chit chatting, I offered to buy all the girls from the night before a round of drinks to show my sincerity in my apology. Which they gladly accepted. After awhile, and talking the troll up, we talk about the bar, the history of the bar, and I show them a photo of when I was in the US Air Force. This was key, as it was a way for me to be in good standing with the manager. They told me how much they love american guys, and how they are always respectful, have a great time with them, and spend a lot of money there. I was the first to act a fool. I played pool with one of the other gorgeous girls that works there. She's tall, slim, got great hips, and perky boobs. Model type beauty, but didn't seem fun or feisty, which is what I look for in a girl, because they will have that same attitude in the boudoir. Unfortunately, while this was happening, anna got snatched up by another guy. Seeing that my window was closing, I had to act fast. I felt like he situation has gone from red to green, and everyone was having a good time, so I ask to barfine anna. She says yes. Anna comes over and we talk about time. I ask for long time, they said they had a birthday party to get to at 2 am. It was 11:45 at this point. Then I ask how long short time will be, she says she can give me two hours, with two pops. Anna then asks me how much will I pay, I tell her we can negotiate at my hotel. I pay my bill, go and hug all the girls, and leave. We arrive at nana, and the guy at the reception had the biggest grin and approving nod of me when he saw anna. Haha.

Get up to the room, we start negotiating. I always have 3 requests, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM. Man, this girl is amazing. She explains that kissing without frenching is worthless. And a BJ with a cover on is pointless. She was on the fence about the CIM until we can determine a price. I ask her how much for all of this. In my head, I was willing to pay $100 max. That's exactly what she wanted. I tried to low ball her at first, and then incrementally increase it, she was not willing to budge. When I offered $80, she still wouldn't budge. I told her goodbye then, and was going to hand her taxi money, and she was ready to leave. She's calling my bluff. I even offered her $99, and she still wouldn't budge. I ask her for a discount, because I'm muscular and handsome. She says: "do I look like a girl who barfines with ugly or fat people?" Point taken. We agree. We both get cleaned up.

That a $$ has me praising the lord. We start making out like we were in highschool. And then she starts with the BBBJ, and sticks that delicious rump in the air, while making deep eye contact. She takes me deep, but her teeth sometimes get involved. After a few minutes, I'm ready to go and need to be inside of her. We start off in mish, one of my favs, because of the view and the ability to make out. She stares lovingly into my eyes the whole time. We tried to switch positions a few times, but it wasn't working, our body anatomies weren't clicking. So I go back to mish, and I take her to pound town. We have a playful conversation during the whole time, me asking her to marry me and me telling her that I love her. She calls me a liar. Hahaha As I increase my speed and power, she starts to enjoy it. When I was ready to nut, I took too long to pull out, and nutted some inside of her, and when I tried to take the condom off the rest dripped out on her chest. This is not how I wanted my first shot. I mustered all of my strength and while on top of her, stroked myself while looking at this marvelous woman, who stared into my eyes deeply, smiled, flirted, caressed me, and massaged my family jewels. It's a serene position to be in, she readied herself for my load, and I shot a big load across her face and into her hair. She was surprised by it, and didn't think I was going to get it into her hair and face. What did you think was going to happen? I was jerking it 2 inches from your chin and aiming for your face. She thought I was aiming for inside of her mouth, which she left her mouth open for, but my load too powerful to be controlled. Like a hose with full pressure, it just goes everywhere. She tried to nudge me from on top of her so she can clean her hair and makeup, which she wanted intact for the party later that night. But I wasn't moving until every last drop of me was emptied onto her, even wiping the tip on her boobs. She cleans up, I clean up. She tells me her real name, it's Sonrita. She told me she saw me go into rose bar, and oscar bar. Asked why I didnt barfine girls from there. I told her that she was my true love, no girl in cambodia is as beautiful as her. She calls me a liar. She gives me a kiss and leaves.

Cloud 9.

front desk calls up to see if everything was good, which i had anticipated. told him everything was good to go.

I really don't care who has the money. I had a good time, just ended on a bad note that one night. Why have money if you can't enjoy it? Whoever has it, will have problems trying to use it, as noted earlier. If not, then I did my humanitarian deed for the year, feeding a poor person in an impoverished country for 2-3 weeks.

Happy Mongering! Off to Pattaya.

LifeIsABeach
02-21-15, 08:21
Anyways, so I make my way over to pontoon club, the place was pretty empty. I say about 20 people in total were in here. It's not a bad dance club, the service is pretty good here. Ordered a beer, and checked out the talent. The girls were a lot better looking here, but they just gave me long distance glances, no smiles or stares, which made me think that they may not be WGs. I ordered a shot of vodka for the both of us and headed to Heart of Darkness. It's about midnight now. I say ok, if you can prove it, I will buy you a drink. she "buys" me a drink. I watch her get this beer, I can handle my alcohol, and definitely know my limits and know when to stop. I know getting scammed and ripped off with bad experiences is expected, it comes with the territory. I've mongered in 12 different countries.
Happy mongering!Sorry to say that from your FR that you had too much alcohol written all over it. I don't even think that you were even drugged. You just could not stop drinking. People say that they know their limits but it does not take a lot of drinks for people to lose control of their actions. I never had any problems in whole of Cambodia. Plus I keep my limit for drinking a total of 2 beers in a night out. Also, it has to be bottled beer or unopened bottle of wine. Drink less, enjoy more. Plus, you went to Pontoon way too early. If You left HoD around midnight, then you were at Pontoon may be around 10.00 pm. It does not get going till after midnight or 2 .00 AM. Majority of the girls in Pontoon are working girls. Plus no need to blame the Tuk Tuk driver for your drinking. Life is good out there. Enjoy it.

ThomKatt
02-21-15, 09:18
Sorry to say that from your FR that you had too much alcohol written all over it. I don't even think that you were even drugged. You just could not stop drinking. People say that they know their limits but it does not take a lot of drinks for people to lose control of their actions. I never had any problems in whole of Cambodia. Plus I keep my limit for drinking a total of 2 beers in a night out. Also, it has to be bottled beer or unopened bottle of wine. Drink less, enjoy more. Plus, you went to Pontoon way too early. If You left HoD around midnight, then you were at Pontoon may be around 10.00 pm. It does not get going till after midnight or 2 .00 AM. Majority of the girls in Pontoon are working girls. Plus no need to blame the Tuk Tuk driver for your drinking. Life is good out there. Enjoy it.Did everyone just miss the part that I said I had a good time? I know a lot of alcohol was involved, but if I had too much, why did I remember the whole night? Almost every single detail of it, including what was said? I had almost the same amount last night in an even shorter time span, and was perfectly fine. 2 beers a night out? Why bother drinking? You can do without the extra calories.

I know more of you guys will come in here and give your 2 cents about alcohol and getting drunk, but it's not necessary. It happened, it was a bad situation, not everything is perfect, and nothing can be. I'm now smarter about it. I ended up having a better time the very next time at the same place. I'm just posting a report on my experiences there.

Luke Skywalker
02-21-15, 11:22
Did everyone just miss the part that I said I had a good time? I know a lot of alcohol was involved, but if I had too much, why did I remember the whole night? Almost every single detail of it, including what was said? I had almost the same amount last night in an even shorter time span, and was perfectly fine. 2 beers a night out? Why bother drinking? You can do without the extra calories.

I know more of you guys will come in here and give your 2 cents about alcohol and getting drunk, but it's not necessary. It happened, it was a bad situation, not everything is perfect, and nothing can be. I'm now smarter about it. I ended up having a better time the very next time at the same place. I'm just posting a report on my experiences there.I enjoyed your post ThomKatt. Live and learn as they say. At least you had a good time and hopefully helped some others avoid any bill padding.

Luke Skywalker
02-21-15, 11:30
Cyrcee Club (secret bar) for noobs.

When you are horny as hell and absolutely positively have to drain every last ounce of Jizz out of your one eyed trouser snake, then (LE) Cyrcee Club has the release valve you are looking for.

The Cyrcee Club is one of the long time survivors of the mongering scene. When I first visited in the early 2000's it was drab and quite Spartan with a few stools by the bar and a staircase to heaven at the back. There were always 20 or so girls in there. They would wear t-shirts and denim skirts, no make-up and very little English. Doesn't sound appealing right? Wrong! They didn't wear panties. Yes, I'll repeat that, they didn't wear panties. The girls would perch themselves, either side of you, up on the side of your stool and lean on the bar. So my fingers would be in each of the girls pussies while another girl had her hand down my pants giving me a handy J. Heaven. Of course in those days you could go upstairs and give your lady of the night a good throat bruising. Not anymore. One of the rooms had a Cincinnati Reds bed sheet which I swear never got changed! Made me like the Reds though.

These days though, things have changed a lot, but then again they haven't.

Gone is the dark interior, replaced by a fairly stylish bar draped in burgundy red with and a wood finish that suits the style of girls a little better. Gone are the denim commando brigade and the girls are well made up, little black dresses abound and it looks like any other run of the mill 136 hostess bar.

First time to Cyrcee Club?

Here's what to expect when you enter:

Enter the Noo be:

The red drapes have been thrown open and the lionesses see their prey, unsure of himself the noob slowly gravitates to the nearest barstool as the leaders of the pride jostle their way to the front and move in. The noob orders his beer, turns around, and suddenly! The pride moves in. Hands pawing at his legs, back, hair, crotch, the Noob is startled. Takes a deep breath. Remembers his answers to the 3 most burning issues on the mind of all Cambodian bargirls; 1. Where am I from 2. Where I am staying and 3. How long I'm staying. (With the knowledge of how many times I've been to Cambodia in my back pocket just in case we reach question 4). The Noob is ready. But before he can speak the Cambodian lioness with her silky mocha skin, her big round eyes and slightly figure, looks up at him and says. "Sir you like blow job"? "I blow job very good". Another catches his attention. "Sir, you like 2 girls, can lick pussy for you" and yet another pipes up "Sir, can take 3 girl, sexy show lesbian for you". In the distance a little glowing Yoda and Obi Wan nod him their approval. He sips his beer and smiles.

Other than the deceased Jedi, that's pretty much exactly how it goes. It can actually be quite daunting for a first timer when you first enter and get bull rushed, but that's all part of the experience I guess.

Once the herd is around you, see who speaks the best English. The ones just pawing you or giving you puppy dog eyes don't speak much English. Someone will stand out from the crowd though. This doesn't mean you going to take her out, it means she can better fill you in on what girl does what and with who.

- Everyone has their own way of doing it, but here's what I did in Feb 2015:

Entered the bar, took my [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) like a man, had a few cuddles with a large chested woman. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer and turned to face the hoard.

One girl had really good English (Girl 1) grabbed her and told her I'll buy her a drink. The hoard dispersed. Her first question was in fact "Do you like blow job"? Then asked if I wanted 2 ladies. I said probably only one was enough, but tell me who you go with and who goes with who, and who does what. She gave me a good rundown of which girls go with who by awkwardly pointing around the room, but I got the info I needed. Why did I do this? I think a common rookie mistake is taking 2 girls who are not friends and won't be into nympho lesbo stuff because of this. There's no Yellow line on the wall either so if you want something specific, ask if they do it and gauge the response.

Girl 1 introduces me to her friend girl 2, a bubble butt cutie with a nice chest and a hint of porn in her eyes. They then detail what they do as a selling point for me to upsize my fries and take 2 girls.

BTW: these girls had no problem with me groping them (in a nice way) as far as rubbing their minge in the bar. These 2 were horny little fcukers indeed.

On the threesome menu this evening:

Deep frenching by them and with me.

Lesbian show.

They will lick each other out. I can also dine at the why.

CIM.

2 girl BJ (BBBJ of course).

69.

Shower together for a nice handy J warmer up!

Fingering.

Ball licking.

Masturbation (by them!) and each other.

Just wish I had brought a twister mat. There were tongues and fanny going all over the place.

I can safely say all items on the list were ticked off and then some. In 30+ visits to this place I've never been let down.

I don't watch alot of Cinemax so I am unskilled in writing soft core porn for you, so I'll skip ahead to pricing:

How much!?

I know that's what you are thinking.

Barfine: $10 USD each girl x2 = $20.

Drinks: 2 beers and 2 lady drinks. This was $5.

Total $25. (This final drinks bill seemed very odd to me. It should have been a little more I thought. Perhaps even double, but that's the bill I got. Was it happy hour? Didn't ask just paid).

Girls $30 each plus small tip.

All up $85 for Phnom Penh night of porn star whoring. (when compared to taking out 2 starfish 136 ers + their endless drinks bill, it's a bargain).

There is a short time hotel across the street, the rooms are $5 and quite basic, but you are not there for the ambience. Or you can chariot them back to your boudoir for some naughtiness.

The address is 49th street. Coming along 136 street from the river, head straight towards the market, after you get to a wide busy street, cross it, then take the first right. Its a dark street and you will see a glowing pink light above the large glass doors with the bar hidden by a red curtain. The doorman will open the door for you. Any moto driver round 136,108, 130,51 etc should know Cyrcee Club. They may pronounce it Sexy Club or say LE Sexy.

Have fun and be nice to the girls.

Traveler1234
02-21-15, 15:14
Cyrcee Club (secret bar) for noobs.

How much!?
All up $85 for Phnom Penh night of porn star whoring. (when compared to taking out 2 starfish 136 ers + their endless drinks bill, it's a bargain).Nice update! But it's for ST and not LT at the room across the street, right? Plus condoms are sold for $5 each so make sure to bring your own. ;)

Luke Skywalker
02-21-15, 16:51
Nice update! But it's for ST and not LT at the room across the street, right? Plus condoms are sold for $5 each so make sure to bring your own. ;)100% correct sir. It was ST. All my whoring is ST, I'm a one shot wonder who likes waking up to a pillow next to me. $5 for a condom!? That's rich! I hope it's ribbed for her pleasure.

Also one more correction. The Angkor beers were $2. 50 each and the Lady drinks were included in the barfine it would appear.

Also I embellished myself RE the red drapes. Wish they'd bring them back!

Simian
02-21-15, 18:56
Cyrcee Club (secret bar) for noobs.

When you are horny as hell and absolutely positively have to drain every last ounce of Jizz out of your one eyed trouser snake, then (LE) Cyrcee Club has the release valve you are looking for.

The Cyrcee Club is one of the long time survivors of the mongering scene.

Have fun and be nice to the girls.Great post, LS. When I used to go to Phnom Penh years ago, there were a few places like that. Great that LE Cyrcee has survived to provide fantastic quality and value.

When I was there a few years ago, there was a European chap there crying into his beer over some bar girl who has dumped him after he had spent a small fortune on her. Apparently his mates had brought him there in order to cheer him up. And while he was crying into his beer, there were two or more girls trying to console him or at least take his mind off his troubles. Some joker commented, "You have two hotties massaging you while you are drinking a cold beer that is half the price in your home town in a bar where you can take home any of the women for the price of a taxi fare in your country. Yeah, isn't life sh1 t!

I took out a really great looker that evening. We did not go across the road but to another place nearby which was a little more expensive after some negotiation but much better quality. The lady had a really great latina look going, with long black hair, tight bod, lovely ass and gorgeous Khmer dark skin who loved her work. If I remember correctly, she let me have two shots after which I gave her a nice tip. She has probably moved on long ago.

DingoD
02-23-15, 11:59
As the title suggests I have just returned from yet another trip to Cambodia (a quick check of passport reveals this one the be the 14th visa sticker), the majority of the time spent lazing in Phnom Penh with a couple of trips out to the province to do weddings, visit relatives and get some sun and sand in Sihanoukville. Due to me being with the Mrs (a local gal) the majority of my free 'play time' is generally during the afternoon, so this report might be of most interest to mongers looking for some day light fun and inspiration.

Being a creature of habit I tend to crawl back to places of previous conquests and success, and with that rational the first place I hit up when I had the chance was Nay Nay Star (street 102). Its definitely seen batter days, its getting tired and old BUT the onsite room option is great for the day punter. Got chatting to a petite skinny little spinner that introduced herself as Sreyma. Nice province girl, limited English, my above average Khmer comes in handy, a few drinks and then she lets me know that she can provide me with nice massage and uncovered nyum nyum. Bar fine paid ($10) and upstairs we go. A good session was had, it was by no means mind blowing PSE stuff but she performed well and did all that was required and even got to sneak in a little nap, which I think was as equally high on her agenda and the BBJ was on mine. Damage was $30, I repeat sessioned her about a week and a half later and that session was even better. The number of girls and talent was thinner this time at Nay Nay Star then previous visits from myself, but I guess the nature of this work and the girls moving not only from bar to bar, but city to province and vice versa means the girls change pretty fast and visits with gaps of 6 odd months means you never know who will be there and who has moved on.

Another old haunt that is on the quiet side but that I've scored well before is Zambezi (cnr 136 and 49), dropped in there one late afternoon, think that they had just opened, only a couple of girls working, I got stuck with a bit of an ugly one who I couldn't shake and she spoke no English, I played the me speak no Khmer card and I drank my one Cambodia Larger and was out of there and didn't return. The place really isn't too flash and the sewerage smell was not overly welcoming either. This bar is about 30 seconds walk from LE Cyree and basically the girls will take you virtually right across the street to the same short time hotel, as mentioned in other recent reports, its a dive but you don't go for the room. Unfortunately LE Cyree is one I can't visit at the moment as I am known by the cashier who is a friend of the Mrs. I won't go into the embarrassing story of how I discovered this out last time but unfortunately until I get the scoop that she has moved on that little pearl of a bar isn't the safest bar for me to partake of my hobby in.

Scoured the street 136 places and ended up spending a bit of time in Moon Rise, good place and some damn fine looking girls. For the mongers that find language to be a stumbling block at times I would say from my recent visits that English was spoken by a good selection of the girls and there are some stunner in there. I had some fun, treated the girls nice and even got shouted a drink by a lovely girl there by the name of Ahleak. Bar fined Ahleak and on another occasion another girl whis name escapes me (but whos body is burnt into my memory for a long time) - both girls where reasonable performers and again I stick to a pretty standard pricing policy of $30ST.

One bar I stumbled across and found late in the piece, had I found it earlier might have been my default option, was a bar named Cool and Cozy (on street 118) - again this is a good afternoon venue, think the girls told me it opens at 12 pm. Well on the times I went there were only a handful of girls on, not sure what its like when the sun goes down, next trip I will find that out with repeated visits. Anyways, sessioned a 2 girls from here on 2 separate times. First girl was by no means the best looking girl in the bar but was probably the best performer I had during my holiday. Skinny little thing from Prey Veng province but she knew how to use her tongue and I am always a sucker for a good cat bath in the bar. Hands all over me and I was convinced after one drink it was time that myself and Srey Tiot (that's the name she uses, translates as small girl and she is tiny, 37 kgs) needed to leave and visit short time hotel around the corner. 2 pops and a very good session again for $30 plus the bar fine of $10. The day I took Srey Toit there was another smoking hot girl in there, a better looking and a bit more meat on the bone (by no means fat) than Srey Toit. Because I didn't want the pressure and awkwardness of two girls sitting there with me in a quiet bar (me the only one in there, actually maybe the male owner on a table out back with his laptop crunching the numbers) I told the other girl that I was just going to by one girl a drink. She graciously ubderstood my motives and left us alone and went back to a solo seat near the bar and buried her face in her phone. She had introduced herself, goes by the name of Chanda, I gave her a sneaky little slap on the ass as I left and a good bye and a promise that Ill return another time and have a drink with her. Well lucky my found a few hours spare on my second to last day before heading home and sure enough I returned to Cool and Cozy Bar and Chanda was working and was happy to see me. Again the bar was empty, so I got myself and Chanda a drink and we fooled around a little like high school kids and then I asked if she wanted to go out with me and sure enough she picked up her drink, slammed down the half glass remaining and off we went. A very attractive girl and I enjoyed her nimble body in various positions.

So overall I found I had a fun time at the bars mentioned above, and as I said, these will be useful as daytime treats (not Moon Rise, opens at 3 pm but the girls I sessioned where during the early evening.

For what its worth, my two cents worth on the street 51 scene, Golden Sorya mall is a bit of a sad place and probably not for me, I need a bit more privacy due to my situation and a bar during the afternoon offer me that privacy. The girls during the day at GSM generally appear to be the girls that are barred or not permitted into Walkabout. I sat at black cat one afternoon and it was quiet funny watching the same 3 or 4 girls stalking street 51 walking up and down tirelessly between GSM and Walkabout but never actually going into to Walkabout. I paid one quick one beer visit to Walkabout, and the place never changes, I guess its like the old 'shooting fish in a barrel' clich, it is what it is and from a finance perspective you probably save $20, that is the girls are generally available for $20ST, and no cost of bar fine or lady drink so you can get you load unleashed for $20 as apposed to the standard $40 for ST with girls from hostess bars ($30 for the girl, $10 for the barfine). I don't want to get into or start a pricing debate here, I've just posted these prices as a guide for any new Phnom Penh visitors. Anyone reading this who has experience in this city knows that there are a reasonable number of factors depending upon, how many bar fines the girl has had in recent times, if the girl likes you (this will influence the price), your ability to impress with speaking Khmer and so on and so forth.

Hope this makes reasonable reading and is of use to new punters to Phnom Penh. And to close, a question, I have visited a fish bowl a couple of times on previous visits which had a not too bad selection, the place is on street 252 close to the crn of street 63. Can anyone tell me if it is still operating as I ran out of time to drop in? On fishbowls, are there any other that have sprung up or can anyone report and list some worth checking out?

I had fun as always and look forward to next trip back to PP. Safe punting DingoD.

SoundOn
02-28-15, 03:51
This is my first time in Cambodia and first time mongering. Have to say without ISG I'm sure I would have gone to the wrong places, gone with the wrong girls, been ripped off and spent way too much time just finding somewhere for these privileges!

Anyway visited Walkabout, NayNay Bar, a bar on Send Thuon (136St?) and a few others. What I found was exactly as described under Reports Of Distinction, spot on as of Feb 2015. As a newbie it was frustrating going 'is she here just for drinks? 'does the Manger know all she talks about is her ex? Etc. And to be honest this and the banter is all part of the fun for me. Eventually though you want to stop playing games and just get naked. Enter LE Crycee. It is up front and simple. Walk in, get surround by 8 attractive women, buy a drink for one, the rest leave you alone, chat and quickly get down to negotiating, pay 1 drink for you ($2), pay 1 lady drink ($3), pay bar fine ($10), walk across road to guesthouse, pay for room ($5), go up to basic but clean room, shower, get down to business without having to remind her agreed time and pay for company ($30 for ST). From entering club to entering guesthouse it can take less than 10 min. Nice and straightforward!

Sean EZ
03-01-15, 01:00
Are hotels in PP girl-friendly? I searched the forum only ST hotels are mentioned. Is it ok to bring girls to top hotel? Thanks.

LifeIsABeach
03-01-15, 02:34
Are hotels in PP girl-friendly? I searched the forum only ST hotels are mentioned. Is it ok to bring girls to top hotel? Thanks.Most hotels are girl friendly in Cambodia. Just to make sure, I always asked the hotel by e-mail before booking if I could bring back legal age Cambodian girlfriends back to the room.

Traveler1234
03-01-15, 04:25
Most hotels are girl friendly in Cambodia. Just to make sure, I always asked the hotel by e-mail before booking if I could bring back legal age Cambodian girlfriends back to the room.Really? I thought many of the higher stars are NOT GFE. The two I've stayed at required you signing a waiver and damage document, plus get a photocopy of the girl's I'd. But no extra fee.

Oorvampu
03-01-15, 07:47
Really? I thought many of the higher stars are NOT GFE. The two I've stayed at required you signing a waiver and damage document, plus get a photocopy of the girl's I'd. But no extra fee.Generally the smaller ones are girl friendly. I stayed at hotel serendipity in Sihanoukville and they said no guests unless checked in together. They also had a big poster saying the hotel is not a brothel. The hotel I stayed in Siem Reap asked $15 for extra person, but they said it is for breakfast. I argued, the girl argued saying we don't need breakfast but to no avail. Other than these two I might have stayed in four other hotels and none had this problem. So it varies and better to check beforehand.

Smily59
03-01-15, 10:14
LE Crycee. It is up front and simple. Walk in, get surround by 8 attractive women, buy a drink for one, the rest leave you alone, chat and quickly get down to negotiating, pay 1 drink for you ($2), pay 1 lady drink ($3), pay bar fine ($10), walk across road to guesthouse, pay for room ($5), go up to basic but clean room, shower, get down to business without having to remind her agreed time and pay for company ($30 for ST). From entering club to entering guesthouse it can take less than 10 min. Nice and straightforward!Although I saw some posts in the past with 10 $ BF and 30 $ST these were mixed with others stating still the old 20 $ST 3 $LD 5 $ Guesthouse sheme.

So is that still negotiable?

In my understanding at least ST should be negotiable to 20 or 25 $.

Surfer500
03-01-15, 11:53
Really? I thought many of the higher stars are NOT GFE. The two I've stayed at required you signing a waiver and damage document, plus get a photocopy of the girl's I'd. But no extra fee.I stayed at the Ohana hotel which is girl friendly and my buddy had to sign a waiver for one girl where as I was bringing them in with having to do nothing with the front desk.

Great location by the Riverfront, about $ 60 a night with the rooms in the back being quiet. They also have a great swimming pool.

Traveler1234
03-01-15, 15:49
I stayed at the Ohana hotel which is girl friendly and my buddy had to sign a waiver for one girl where as I was bringing them in with having to do nothing with the front desk.



Generally the smaller ones are girl friendly.Exactly what I experienced. The smaller ones are and larger hotel chains are not?

Sean EZ
03-01-15, 17:06
Found this link a few pages back actually.

http://www.guestfriendlyhotel.com/guest-friendly-hotel-phnom-penh/

Some hotels check I'd's some don't. I would think for safety it is a good thing when they check / keep girls I'd's.

LifeIsABeach
03-02-15, 00:28
http://www.guestfriendlyhotel.com/guest-friendly-hotel-phnom-penh/

Some hotels check I'd's some don't. I would think for safety it is a good thing when they check / keep girls I'd's.I had no problems in PP. NANa Hotel near Street is no extra joiner fee and also do not check I'd. But they will call you when the girl leaves to check. I think NaNa is about $20.00 / night. Not bad for being cheap. In Snookey, only one hotel did not allow girls but all the others I called said it is my business and no extra charge. No issues in Siem Reap either. If the expensive hotels are more restrictive, stay at smaller cheaper hotels and they are not bad at all. Why pay more?

Sean EZ
03-03-15, 22:37
I had no problems in PP. NANa Hotel near Street is no extra joiner fee and also do not check I'd. But they will call you when the girl leaves to check. I think NaNa is about $20.00 / night. Not bad for being cheap. In Snookey, only one hotel did not allow girls but all the others I called said it is my business and no extra charge. No issues in Siem Reap either. If the expensive hotels are more restrictive, stay at smaller cheaper hotels and they are not bad at all. Why pay more?You are right. But the most expensive hotel in the capital is like 100 bucks per night and I'm curios what the place would be like and to relax by the pool during the day, get massage in the spa. Who's staying in those hotels, maybe a couple of hot European girls) Nana looks good BTW, great location.

AssGuy26
03-04-15, 11:41
Can anyone recommend the best place to discreetly engage in our hobby that doesn't require more than an hour or so? Can't go back to the hotel for obvious reasons.

From reading the forum I'm guessing either a massage place (anyone have any specific examples?) or club Cyrcee and a short time hotel are my best bets. My hotel is about 1 km south of the riverside so I'm guessing Tuk Tuks are my best option.

Thanks in advance!

WildHawk
03-05-15, 07:08
You are right. But the most expensive hotel in the capital is like 100 bucks per night and I'm curios what the place would be like and to relax by the pool during the day, get massage in the spa. Who's staying in those hotels, maybe a couple of hot European girls) Nana looks good BTW, great location.After reading some great recent reports here about action in Phnom Penh (and Stickman's Bangkok column talking up the bars in PP as part of the usual bemoaning of the decline in LOS), I'm giving serious thought to a return trip to Cambodia. As for most expensive hotel, there's a Raffles that's going for about $160 US on Agoda (which is probably comparable to the Metropole in Hanoi) -- not bad at all, relatively speaking, for a luxe place. I wonder if anybody has any experience bringing in outside talent if booked as a double.

My previous experience in Cambodia, dated as it is, was about five years ago at one of the top-rated hotels in Siem Reap (amazing, amazing place for tourism, but everybody knows that). Major pain in the ass sneaking in a girl (Top Town, if that's the takeout establishment -- cannot recall, as I also partook in the big fishbowl place in Siem Reap.) A bellhop ran after us as we entered the elevator. Demanded to know my room number. I provided a wildly off-number one. Wouldn't have doubted if the moron knocked on two dozen doors trying to track me down. Soooo, No. 1, I'm soliciting advice if our fair readers (ya, ya RTFF) if PP is worth the trip, and 2. If major precautions are still needed in the nicer hotels.

FreebieFan
03-05-15, 07:45
After reading some great recent reports here about action in Phnom Penh (and Stickman's Bangkok column talking up the bars in PP as part of the usual bemoaning of the decline in LOS), I'm giving serious thought to a return trip to Cambodia. As for most expensive hotel, there's a Raffles that's going for about $160 US on Agoda (which is probably comparable to the Metropole in Hanoi) -- not bad at all, relatively speaking, for a luxe place. I wonder if anybody has any experience bringing in outside talent if booked as a double.

My previous experience in Cambodia, dated as it is, was about five years ago at one of the top-rated hotels in Siem Reap (amazing, amazing place for tourism, but everybody knows that). Major pain in the ass sneaking in a girl (Top Town, if that's the takeout establishment -- cannot recall, as I also partook in the big fishbowl place in Siem Reap.) A bellhop ran after us as we entered the elevator. Demanded to know my room number. I provided a wildly off-number one. Wouldn't have doubted if the moron knocked on two dozen doors trying to track me down. Soooo, No. 1, I'm soliciting advice if our fair readers (ya, ya RTFF) if PP is worth the trip, and 2. If major precautions are still needed in the nicer hotels.Totally recommended. And there are a vast number of hotels to choose from. PP specialises in smaller more boutique hotels than the large chain affiliated hotels and seems better for it. Similar to Hanoi. Much nicer once in a while to be in smaller place.

Rewsna
03-06-15, 08:28
Thanks for posting this up. Too bad some people were judging you for it. But I hope no one's afraid to write even about his own mistakes for fear of being flamed. Because it could happen to the best of us when we put our guard down. Good reminder for the rest of us.


Hey Brothers,

I just wanted to post this quick cautionary tale of my experience last night. I had arrived into PP during the day,

ThomKatt
03-07-15, 07:34
Thanks for posting this up. Too bad some people were judging you for it. But I hope no one's afraid to write even about his own mistakes for fear of being flamed. Because it could happen to the best of us when we put our guard down. Good reminder for the rest of us.Thanks man. I wished more people had the guts to post information like this all the time. It would help everyone out in the grand scheme of things. We're on the internet, it's anonymous. I rather have my ego hurt a little than my wallet, or my body.

Redim
03-08-15, 05:18
Before visiting Sihanoukville, I did hangout at walkabout a few times. Most of the FLers are khmer. I was surprised one afternoon to start talking to one Viet girl (Viet FLers are increasing rare these days in PP). She as their with her chubby Viet friend. But my target was my type, slim and cute. It was refreshing to chat to a Viet girl. Her English was better compared to her khmer sisters. When asked how much she would like to share an hour of her time with me, she declined to start the negotiations, rather she insisted that I state my offer. With some experience of the walkabout scene, I offered $20. She smiled and replied quickly with a resounding 'yes'. I doubt if an offer of <$20 would have tempted her.

Back in my hotel, we got down to business. I have to say, from my khmer FL encounters in Phnom Penh, this Viet girl was a refreshing energetic delight. Good service for Cambo.

Before she left we exchanged numbers and I invited her to return a few days later. Like a good Viet girl, she was quick to reply to my sms messages and arrived on time at the next meeting time. Although a little business like in her style, the service was far superior compared to the khmer style I have experienced in Phnom Penh so far. But then again, I have not bothered to avail of the hostess bar talent. Maybe the service improves if you pay 3 times the FL rate.

Unfortunately the little Viet princess returned to Vietnam for Chinese new year and her cambo sim card has been dead for the past 3 weeks. So maybe she is still in Vietnam and not yet returned to Phnom Penh. Pity, hehehe.

CockTeased
03-13-15, 06:01
Just a few edits.

I called her a "dumb, cheap, hoar". ISG edited my word that begins with a W.

Also, at the end of the day, it's JUST money. I'm not going to cry over it. I've spent more on dumber things.I would call her a smart, expensive hoar.

I would never give away a three months salary voluntarily.

Then they would have to call the criminals to physically rob me.

CockTeased
03-13-15, 08:16
Also, a lot of you guys in here should at least try to think in terms of relativeness. $10 barfine and $30 short time?

That is $45 including the room or two weeks salary for a local worker. Back home in western Europe I get short time for $50 which is just $5 more.

Compared to what many of you guys pay in a very poor developing country such as Cambodia. I would say that you over paying punters are the ones.

Who get screwed here.

The Khmer punters pay $5 for short time here in Cambodia while many of you pay almost the same price as back home.

Muzungufotsy
03-13-15, 14:57
+1.

Couldn't agree more with you CockTeased.

ThomKatt
03-13-15, 16:55
I would call her a smart, expensive hoar.

I would never give away a three months salary voluntarily.

Then they would have to call the criminals to physically rob me.If they called the criminals to physically rob you, that would be a dumb a $$ move. Your life isn't worth a few hundred dollars.

3 months salary? For them right? I'm sure they make more than that in a week dude.

LukeSkywalker
03-13-15, 20:12
Khmer girls are way to shy and reserve. They always hide themselves behind their wais, peeking at you.

Viet girls are more cheerful, outgoing and flirty.

Most girls I met in Pnompenh and Siemreap were Viets.


Before visiting Sihanoukville, I did hangout at walkabout a few times. Most of the FLers are khmer. I was surprised one afternoon to start talking to one Viet girl (Viet FLers are increasing rare these days in PP). She as their with her chubby Viet friend. But my target was my type, slim and cute. It was refreshing to chat to a Viet girl. Her English was better compared to her khmer sisters. When asked how much she would like to share an hour of her time with me, she declined to start the negotiations, rather she insisted that I state my offer. With some experience of the walkabout scene, I offered $20. She smiled and replied quickly with a resounding 'yes'. I doubt if an offer of <$20 would have tempted her.

Back in my hotel, we got down to business. I have to say, from my khmer FL encounters in Phnom Penh, this Viet girl was a refreshing energetic delight. Good service for Cambo.

Before she left we exchanged numbers and I invited her to return a few days later. Like a good Viet girl, she was quick to reply to my sms messages and arrived on time at the next meeting time. Although a little business like in her style, the service was far superior compared to the khmer style I have experienced in Phnom Penh so far. But then again, I have not bothered to avail of the hostess bar talent. Maybe the service improves if you pay 3 times the FL rate.

Unfortunately the little Viet princess returned to Vietnam for Chinese new year and her cambo sim card has been dead for the past 3 weeks. So maybe she is still in Vietnam and not yet returned to Phnom Penh. Pity, hehehe.

Simian
03-15-15, 20:37
Can anyone recommend the best place to discreetly engage in our hobby that doesn't require more than an hour or so? Can't go back to the hotel for obvious reasons.

From reading the forum I'm guessing either a massage place (anyone have any specific examples?) or club Cyrcee and a short time hotel are my best bets. My hotel is about 1 km south of the riverside so I'm guessing Tuk Tuks are my best option.

Thanks in advance!Massage Parlours with extras are designed especially for husbands (both expat and local) in SE Asia. You can also avail of the couple of places where ST FS is available on site. You can find all of this and feedback on performance etc by searching the forum.

Doinky
03-24-15, 22:05
Newbie here,

Anyone know if Intercontinental hotel is girl friendly? I know its way out there and pricey but able to score it for dirt cheap on their sales. If not, then I might have to cancel it.

Tomasb
03-25-15, 04:22
While on subject, I reserved a room at the Blue Lime as it was decently priced and came with a nice pool. It's 37 centigrade there now! But no notice on their webpage regarding their GF policies, however, some of their sister hotels listed on the site I know are against 'sex tourism' as they refer to it.


Newbie here,

Anyone know if Intercontinental hotel is girl friendly? I know its way out there and pricey but able to score it for dirt cheap on their sales. If not, then I might have to cancel it.

AussieGuy100
03-25-15, 04:33
While on subject, I reserved a room at the Blue Lime as it was decently priced and came with a nice pool. It's 37 centigrade there now! But no notice on their webpage regarding their GF policies, however, some of their sister hotels listed on the site I know are against 'sex tourism' as they refer to it.The Blue Lime is definitely not girl friendly. It has a big sign on the front gate that says "Sex tourists not welcome".

It has a great swimming pool. The rooms are ok but the towels provided in the rooms can be old and don't smell good.

LifeIsABeach
03-25-15, 06:14
I have to say, from my khmer FL encounters in Phnom Penh, this Viet girl was a refreshing energetic delight. Good service for Cambo. Although a little business like in her style, the service was far superior compared to the khmer style I have experienced in Phnom Penh so far.I have to agree with some exceptions. In PP, I did meet some Viet FLs, one pure Viet and another Viet / Chinese mix. Both of these girls provided very good service and I also got their friends to come down the following days. With some Kmer girls, it seemed more like a rip-off even if they had agreed to LT, they wanted to get away after the first shot. That's fine with me as they would then only get ST money. The skin is also silkier on the Viet and Chinese girls. The smoothest skin is the Korean's.

Tomasb
03-25-15, 06:36
Good to know. I am arriving later tonight so for one evening it does not matter. However, for the rest of my stay in PP, I will have to look elsewhere.

Do you have any recommendations in this price range with a pool? I am paying $50 per night and prefer to stay under or at this level.


The Blue Lime is definitely not girl friendly. It has a big sign on the front gate that says "Sex tourists not welcome".

It has a great swimming pool. The rooms are ok but the towels provided in the rooms can be old and don't smell good.

Bubba999
03-25-15, 08:35
Hi all.

Just a few notes on my recent week in PP. Been a few times before and so know the lay of the land a bit. I must say that in contrast to other places in Asia, it is definitely worth putting in a bit of time to build rapport with some girls. Of course there is LE Cyrcee for those times when you can't wait but some of the very attractive girls in bars do require a bit of coaxing.

The best times I had were at the Angry Bird Bar on Street 130. Giant sign you can't miss after the first intersection down from the river. Really liked the bar and atmosphere there and the girls were great and did not bug you for drinks. The owner William and his wife keep things running well and are great hosts and the attitude of the girls is outstanding. A few absolute stunners amongst the Angry Bird girls and plenty of others ranging from experienced girls up for anything down to shy girls who are very enthusiastic once you crack them open! Music not too loud and a good mix of visitors and local expats. Def my number one bar experience in PP! Plus really clean toilets. A plus in PP!

Also did the rounds of a few others. Loco in the same street was Ok but felt a bit exclusive for the local ex pats, Dream bar on 136 was fun; picked up some girls at Soraya Mall easily at about 11 pm and also found some eager girls at Pontoon. Prices are always argued here but most girls were happy with $40-50 for a long night and next day. Most cleaned my room as well which I am always happy with. !

Like I say PP is one place that is worth building a bit of a pattern by going to a bar several times and maybe just buying your target 1 drink over a couple of nights and reap the GFE a night or so later.

James02
03-27-15, 01:34
I have googled Martini and Golden Soraya and can't find an address for them.

As I plan to visit PP in the next 6-12 month I would like to visit these 2 clubs.

Also I have been told that there are some good clubs around what Phnom and Independence monument.

Anyone have any further info please.

Thanks

James02
03-27-15, 02:01
Can anyone vouch that that?

Pricing policy of Khmer (Cambodian) prostitutes is quite clear. Prices are basically determined by the nationality of the customer. Minimal, basic service cost. Twenty dollars for a date. There is a lot of countries, and Cambodia is not an exception, where it is possible to negotiate with the girl and try to go with her for less money, but it is considered as a mauvais ton, and to get paid less than twenty mean now to lose the face and respect. Usually, twenty dollars price is only for Khmer people and the foreigners, long time living in Cambodia. It has been said that local men can sometimes get it much cheaper (for example less than $5).

Fee for travelers is a little bit different. For the barangs. The white tourists - 20 - 30 dollars to pay, the Chinese and Japanese are even more expensive. Up to $50.

Finally, the highest fee is established for black skin tourists. A hundred dollars and not a cent less. This is due to the fact that for some reason them causes Khmer woman absolutely sincere, undisguised disgust. To go with a black man for less than a hundred dollars and all the girlfriends will be laughing! Incidentally, is blaming Khmer prostitutes for racist behavior.

Tomasb
03-27-15, 03:40
When I arrived at hotel, the front desk clerk asked me if I was expecting someone else to arrive later. The answer was no though later I thought perhaps I should have said yes but then perhaps she would have wanted more information like her name. While I was sitting in the lobby filling out my registration forms, the same girl came over and asked me again if I was expecting a fried to arrive later. I suppose this is to ensure that there are no misunderstandings because there is a sign on their sliding front door that says 'No sex travelers allowed'.

I kind of understand why some more expensive hotels put this policy in place. It may be a social and moral statement but they may also have encountered problems with girls leaving the room in the middle of night arguing about money or they are drunk and shouting etc. disturbing other residents who pay a pretty penny to stay there.

Anyway, it's a nice hotel and I stayed there an additional night because I was too lazy to move. However, after visiting Pontoon and Heart of Darkness last night, I realized there is quite a bit of talent in PP and I need to find another hotel. There is a large hotel next door to Blue Lime called Okay Boutique Hotel. It covers 14 floors with a pool on top floor and very nice large rooms and the front desk offered me the room for $45 per night, after initially quoting $50. I see nothing on their website or signs around the front desk discussing/forbidding bringing girls or joiner fees and fairly certain I read something in this thread where a poster noted it was GF though can't find it.

I did not care for Heart of Darkness very much though there were a team of local hotties at this disco I later saw at Pontoon. It may be partially gay as there were quite a few local guys there dancing around and not chatting with the girls.

Pontoon, on the other hand, had a multitude of hot girls. One girl sat next to me after a while and we ended up kissing and light petting after only a few minutes of sitting together. I told her about my predictament with the hotel. After an hour or so, she left due to the late hour but we exchanged numbers. My guess is she went elsewhere as the punters were few and far between. There were quite a few girls, more or less during this time, getting in line and eyeing me. After the first girl left, a very attractive Viet girl sat next to me as I had moved to the couch. She had a large tatoo on her back of a lotus flower. Think she said her name was Lan and had been in PP for a three months. After a few minutes, I told her about the hotel situation and she said that she had a room nearby. Doubt if it was her room but a short term place she knew. Not really my favorite venue to pay $5 for a crap room to do the deed. I probably should have asked her if her toothbrush was there in this room. Next time, I will ask that question. She expertly maneuvered herself out of the situation but we spoke again before I left.

Still, there were many, many girls in there and some quite hot. The male side of the equation seemed to be a few locals, younger looking ex-pats who appeared pretty experienced with his place, and then the usual assortment of backpacker types.

Looking forward to a return tonight once I get my hotel situation resolved.


Good to know. I am arriving later tonight so for one evening it does not matter. However, for the rest of my stay in PP, I will have to look elsewhere.

Do you have any recommendations in this price range with a pool? I am paying $50 per night and prefer to stay under or at this level.

Riverstar
03-27-15, 03:53
Have you noticed how a lot of slim young Khmer girls walk as if they have something large in their pussy especially when wearing flip flips.

Tomasb
03-27-15, 07:18
Speaking of walking, I always prefer to walk rather than deal with taxi or tuk tuk drivers regardless of my location. In many ways, I feel safer than getting in a random taxi or tuk tuk.

Case in point -- last night. When leaving Pontoon, I decided to make an exception to this rule by availing myself to the many tuk tuk's parked outside. It's only a short distance to my hotel but it was quite late so thought maybe safer just to get a ride. I asked the driver if he knew the location of the Blue Lime. He said yes and wanted $3, which is a ridiculous price for a 3 minute ride. I said no deal. Then he came down to $2. I said no deal. I walked away and he quickly agreed to my original stated price of 1. 50.

Climbed in the tuk tuk. Next thing I realize is we are down on the Quay by the riverfront far from my hotel. Realized he did not know the location of the hotel and told him let me out. He asks another guy with a tuk tuk where the hotel is and this guy does not admit he knows location either, though I ask the second tuk tuk guy if he knows location and he says yes. I climb in. But the 2nd tuk tuk guy won't leave because the first driver wants to be paid for taking me to the wrong location due to his bald faced lie. 2nd driver sits there. I tell him start driving or I walk. Guess he is protecting some doofus he does not even know. Finally, the 2nd guy drives as the other guy is following us yelling about being paid. When I saw my approximate street location, I asked the tuk tuk to turn left as the first tuk tuk had passed us unaware of where I was going.

I had to take a quick right in a side alley to arrive at my hotel and the 2nd guy hangs at the front of alley while I am yelling at him to continue up alley to hotel. He is waiting for other driver to realize where I am going.

The door was locked to my hotel when I arrive so had to bang on it several times to wake security but fortunately never saw first driver again. Next time I walk.

Liggi1
03-27-15, 12:35
I have googled Martini and Golden Soraya and can't find an address for them.

As I plan to visit PP in the next 6-12 month I would like to visit these 2 clubs.

Also I have been told that there are some good clubs around what Phnom and Independence monument.

Anyone have any further info please.

ThanksMartini is a little far away and not so good location now!

ThomKatt
03-27-15, 13:07
Speaking of walking, I always prefer to walk rather than deal with taxi or tuk tuk drivers regardless of my location. In many ways, I feel safer than getting in a random taxi or tuk tuk.

Case in point -- last night. When leaving Pontoon, I decided to make an exception to this rule by availing myself to the many tuk tuk's parked outside. It's only a short distance to my hotel but it was quite late so thought maybe safer just to get a ride. I asked the driver if he knew the location of the Blue Lime. He said yes and wanted $3, which is a ridiculous price for a 3 minute ride. I said no deal. Then he came down to $2. I said no deal. I walked away and he quickly agreed to my original stated price of 1. 50.

Climbed in the tuk tuk. Next thing I realize is we are down on the Quay by the riverfront far from my hotel. Realized he did not know the location of the hotel and told him let me out. He asks another guy with a tuk tuk where the hotel is and this guy does not admit he knows location either, though I ask the second tuk tuk guy if he knows location and he says yes. I climb in. But the 2nd tuk tuk guy won't leave because the first driver wants to be paid for taking me to the wrong location due to his bald faced lie. 2nd driver sits there. I tell him start driving or I walk. Guess he is protecting some doofus he does not even know. Finally, the 2nd guy drives as the other guy is following us yelling about being paid. When I saw my approximate street location, I asked the tuk tuk to turn left as the first tuk tuk had passed us unaware of where I was going.

I had to take a quick right in a side alley to arrive at my hotel and the 2nd guy hangs at the front of alley while I am yelling at him to continue up alley to hotel. He is waiting for other driver to realize where I am going.

The door was locked to my hotel when I arrive so had to bang on it several times to wake security but fortunately never saw first driver again. Next time I walk.F**k those tuk tuk drivers. They will do whatever it takes to scam you. They are dumb if they try to out muscle me for money. I would have knocked both of these guys out for trying something like this. Luckily I rarely have problems because of my size and physique.

ThomKatt
03-27-15, 13:08
Can anyone vouch that that?

Pricing policy of Khmer (Cambodian) prostitutes is quite clear. Prices are basically determined by the nationality of the customer. Minimal, basic service cost. Twenty dollars for a date. There is a lot of countries, and Cambodia is not an exception, where it is possible to negotiate with the girl and try to go with her for less money, but it is considered as a mauvais ton, and to get paid less than twenty mean now to lose the face and respect. Usually, twenty dollars price is only for Khmer people and the foreigners, long time living in Cambodia. It has been said that local men can sometimes get it much cheaper (for example less than $5). Fee for travelers is a little bit different. For the barangs. The white tourists - 20 - 30 dollars to pay, the Chinese and Japanese. Are even more expensive. Up to $50. Finally, the highest fee is established for black skin tourists. A hundred dollars and not a cent less. This is due to the fact that for some reason them causes Khmer woman absolutely sincere, undisguised disgust. To go with a black man for less than a hundred dollars and all the girlfriends will be laughing! Incidentally, is blaming Khmer prostitutes for racist behavior.This is a very old and very outdated article from wiki sex, with nothing but incorrect and blatantly wrong information.

CockTeased
03-27-15, 13:50
I got robbed by him and his two friends at Christmas day.

Everything started out good, the music was good, quite some people and a decent number of attractive ladies.

After midnight I have had one drink too much so I dropped my glass on my way out from the toilet. Big mistake.

I was calm and said I was sorry, but even so I got brutally dragged in to a small room back side by the security guard and his two staff friends.

"You broke a glass!" he told me "and now you have to pay $20 because of that!

Once again I said I was sorry but he would not accept that for an answer and would not let me walk away.

I tried by giving him the money I had in my front pocket which was almost $10. Now remember that a glass in Cambodia costs around $1.

Then he searched all of my pockets for money and found my $20 bill in another pocket.

He took it away from me and then, after taking $20 away from me even though a glass is just $1 in Cambodia, they finally let me go.

Since I will be living here in Phnom Penh I would have been spending my money in their nightclub twice a week for a year or two, but since they could not treat me fair and had to rob me, I will Never go back there.

The first impression of Pontoon is that it is a good nightclub but no, if you make a small mistake, it's a very dodgy place, especially towards foreigners.

Finnish Fucker
03-27-15, 17:51
I visited PP for 3 days in March. Here is a quick review.

I visited the following bars:

1. Darling Darling. Nice bar with many freelancers, young girls. I was there on Monday night. Some of the girls clearly seeking for asian customers and gave me bad eye. I bought some drinks to a cutie but did not take her to my hotel since this was my first night and I was tired after travelling a long way.

2. Bars on streets 104,136. Many bars and girls but the quality of the girls was not that good IMO. Took one girl, 27 years from Sweet Lemon bar on 136 street to my hotel for LT. A picture of her boobs attached.

3. Shanghai bar. This bar has many girls and is a bit more upscale compared to the others. I played billiard with some girls but did not ask for a takeout. Quality of the girls was OK.

4. Sorya mall. Girls not so nice here, some real dogs. This place is for budget mongers, for real Spertos, who want cheap pussy and don't care for looks so much. Not my cup of tea.

5. LE Cyrcee. I visited this place on Tuesday night. Maybe 10 girls available. None of them appealed to me enough to take them into the room. I took a drink with Abby and left.

6. Pontoon. This disco was pretty good on Wednesday evening, many girls. I took a busty one to my room for ST. Picture attached.

This was my first time in Cambodia, probably the last as well. There are much better options and better looking girls in other countries in Asia.

Cheers,

FF.

Simian
03-27-15, 22:42
Have you noticed how a lot of slim young Khmer girls walk as if they have something large in their pussy especially when wearing flip flips.But if they had something large in their pussies, they would not be able to walk. At least that is my experience. . . .

Bubba999
03-28-15, 04:33
I visited PP for 3 days in March. Here is a quick review.

4. Sorya mall. Girls not so nice here, some real dogs. This place is for budget mongers, for real Spertos, who want cheap pussy and don't care for looks so much. Not my cup of tea.

FF.Hey FF. First time I have seen the word "sperto" used this way. Hope it does not refer to our friend in the Brazil board! He'd be disappointed!

Bubba.

ThomKatt
03-28-15, 07:44
I got robbed by him and his two friends at Christmas day.

Everything started out good, the music was good, quite some people and a decent number of attractive ladies.

After midnight I have had one drink too much so I dropped my glass on my way out from the toilet. Big mistake.

I was calm and said I was sorry, but even so I got brutally dragged in to a small room back side by the security guard and his two staff friends.

"You broke a glass!" he told me "and now you have to pay $20 because of that!

Once again I said I was sorry but he would not accept that for an answer and would not let me walk away.

I tried by giving him the money I had in my front pocket which was almost $10. Now remember that a glass in Cambodia costs around $1.

Then he searched all of my pockets for money and found my $20 bill in another pocket.

He took it away from me and then, after taking $20 away from me even though a glass is just $1 in Cambodia, they finally let me go.

Since I will be living here in Phnom Penh I would have been spending my money in their nightclub twice a week for a year or two, but since they could not treat me fair and had to rob me, I will Never go back there.

The first impression of Pontoon is that it is a good nightclub but no, if you make a small mistake, it's a very dodgy place, especially towards foreigners.ROFL. What happened bro? You just willingly gave up one month's salary so easily? AND they didn't even have to call criminals to physically rob it from you? Damn, I would have at least put up a fight.

Tomasb
03-28-15, 07:56
I was there Thursday evening and the goons were giving a barang a very hard time about his bill. It appeared that he had bought some drinks for a girl who in turn got some more for her friends without his consent. He was objecting to the size of the bill. Perhaps, the waitress did not clue him in though not sure. The goons were pushing him around and roughing him up as he objected vociferously to the bill. In the US, this type of pushing would be called assault. Not sure how it was resolved except he probably just paid as he was outnumbered five to one.

This place does have that vibe. Keep an eye on your things. I was sitting with a Khymer girl who had her pocketbook on the bar top and a security guy came buy and told her not to place it there.


ROFL. What happened bro? You just willingly gave up one month's salary so easily? AND they didn't even have to call criminals to physically rob it from you? Damn, I would have at least put up a fight.

Tomasb
03-28-15, 08:57
I wanted to nominate report #5565 for ROD by Lathano. It's around Page 20 of this thread.

Good and quite helpful and accurate. First, I moved hotels to a GF place directly next door from Blue Lime called Hotel Okay Boutique. Usually, a 14 story hotel with an elaborately decorated Asian style lobby is not for me. However, this place, which only opened four months ago has a lot of interesting design and archtectural features. It is designed Khymer style so lots of wood floors, interesting wood carving reliefs on walls and large rooms with stone bathtubs and wood plank floors. Also, confirmed GF as I discovered later in evening. It also has a gorgeous pool and view from top floor. Originally was quoted $50 but they knocked off $5 since I am staying three nights.

After relaxing in room away from tropical heat, I strolled the riverfront in early evening and found the Rose Bar on Street 104 listed and recommended on Lanthano's report. Lots going on in here with good music and energy and quite a few hot and friendly girls. After getting a drink at bar, I noticed quite a few hotties behind bar dressed in either black and orange or blue and black dresses. A little 42 k spinner came over and after I bought her a drink, she explained these girls were more expensive. Apparently, $100 US for LT. Sort of PP's coyote version of Bangkok.

One in particular had caught my eye earlier. Tall, thin, gorgeous, and young looking, probably around 20 yo. I pointed to her after first entering the bar but she said no and pointed to her other colleagues behind bar.

I asked the spinner now sitting on my lap why this girl was not available as I assumed she must be a BMD girl but the girl told the other girl she was expecting her period soon. Nice to know. In the Philippines, you don't find out until the actual event occurs!

My new friend was not available LT as she had a child at home but she had no problems searching for other prospects for me. However, the few that I liked also could not do LT presumably for same reason so seeing this was a dead end, I decided to try my luck at Pontoon. Upon arrival, I found out that Friday and Saturday they charge a $8 cover but a drink is included even if it's a premium such as Bacardi and coke.

Lots of girls in here as the previous evening. Most on prowl but some had dates so proceed cautiously. While sitting at bar and dance area near entrance. Thinks it's called Vibe, a girl started to chat me up. Not generally my type but attractive enough so after an hour dancing and some making out, she agreed to accompanying to my hotel. She was real careful negotiating with the tuk driver making sure I did not overpay so good sign. When we got to hotel Okay, she told front desk that she didnot have her
I D.

I thought this was not such a good sign but recalled some Siem Resp I met last week also were not carrying their identification docs so perhaps this is not unusual. The front desk made me sign a waiver assuming responsibility for girl but really no issue as she had a certain regal and classy way about her. After the standard shower, we got down to business. Very receptive to DATY, which I performed admirably for quite some time and also discovered no objection to a finger in other orifice. Good to know for future encounters. Nice sex and total GFE. She stayed for rest of night and we had a repeat in morning.

When she was in bathroom after morning romp, I dropped $50 USD on her pocketbook. No comment from her was made so all good. Think that's the standard LT price for good service here. In fact, the GFE does not get better than this.

Will I repeat? Hard to say. So many options and I leave for BKK on Monday.

CockTeased
03-28-15, 09:24
ROFL. What happened bro? You just willingly gave up one month's salary so easily? AND they didn't even have to call criminals to physically rob it from you? Damn, I would have at least put up a fight.You will, get robbed, sooner or later by the criminals who runs the place with the 150 kg muscles bouncer as the leader of the gang.

No point to call the police, they are for sure all involved in this criminal activity.

What is ROFL?

I have already written what happened. No, I did not give my money away voluntarily, they had to physically rob me in that small room backside by using force. $20 is not one month salary, but $100 is for the local working class. They are the criminals, who do you mean they should have called for?

ThomKatt
03-28-15, 10:21
I was there Thursday evening and the goons were giving a barang a very hard time about his bill. It appeared that he had bought some drinks for a girl who in turn got some more for her friends without his consent. He was objecting to the size of the bill. Perhaps, the waitress did not clue him in though not sure. The goons were pushing him around and roughing him up as he objected vociferously to the bill. In the US, this type of pushing would be called assault. Not sure how it was resolved except he probably just paid as he was outnumbered five to one.

This place does have that vibe. Keep an eye on your things. I was sitting with a Khymer girl who had her pocketbook on the bar top and a security guy came buy and told her not to place it there.Most of the guys in Asia aren't big enough, or strong enough to warrant any type of fear. I mean, don't be stupid, they are locals and the police will always side with them and a business of operation. I'm 6 feet and 185 lbs of muscle (hit the gym 4 x a week), combat trained US veteran, most security / bouncers are wise enough to know to not f**k with me. But I was making fun of Cockteased for making a dumb post earlier in regards to what had happened to me.

Tomasb
03-28-15, 10:32
As has been mentioned in several Asian threads, if there is a dispute involving a farang, rest assured the Asian guys will come at you in a group thereby eliminating any disadvantage as to their size. It will not be a fair fight.


Most of the guys in Asia aren't big enough, or strong enough to warrant any type of fear. I mean, don't be stupid, they are locals and the police will always side with them and a business of operation. I'm 6 feet and 185 lbs of muscle (hit the gym 4 x a week), combat trained US veteran, most security / bouncers are wise enough to know to not f**k with me. But I was making fun of Cockteased for making a dumb post earlier in regards to what had happened to me.

Forever69
03-28-15, 12:13
F**k those tuk tuk drivers. They will do whatever it takes to scam you. They are dumb if they try to out muscle me for money. I would have knocked both of these guys out for trying something like this. Luckily I rarely have problems because of my size and physique.This is the dumbest thing I read here in a long time. Just remember the guy working for caterpillar in BKK, in his 40's, fit and over 200# who had a dispute with the cabbie over 2 $. The cabbie took a tire iron and hit him over the head killing him on the spot. Fights in Cambodia must be avoided at all cost. They will gang up on you and ruin your trip for good.

The thing to do if you want to take it out on the tuk tuk guy is to sit in the tuk tuk until he finds the place or runs out of gas. Better though to let him know where your place is. Having a business card of the hotel with you in a situations like that is good also.

If you wonder if a hotel is GF, ask them.

D Cups
03-28-15, 16:04
Have you noticed how a lot of slim young Khmer girls walk as if they have something large in their pussy especially when wearing flip flips.Yes, it is the deposit of mine and several others' schwantztookas.

Peribe
03-29-15, 00:21
Totally recommended. And there are a vast number of hotels to choose from. PP specialises in smaller more boutique hotels than the large chain affiliated hotels and seems better for it. Similar to Hanoi. Much nicer once in a while to be in smaller place.Stayed there in November for 5 days. No questions asked. Had a girl practically living there with me. But, yes, I always book a room for 2 persons (not that they checked).

LifeIsABeach
03-29-15, 07:11
You will, get robbed, sooner or later. No point to call the police, they are for sure all involved in this criminal activity.It's not a good idea to get in a fight in a foreign country. Everything is stacked against. They'll gang up and beat the shit out of you. The Police will take their word. Yes, we'll get robbed here and there but try and stay street smart and courteous. I understand that your glass fell and broke. I personally would have offered to pay for the glass before the whole drama got out of hand. They would have asked for more than it's worth, so be it. It's only money. Enjoy the visit and forget about the incident. I have never had any problems in Pontoon.

ThomKatt
03-29-15, 07:21
You will, get robbed, sooner or later by the criminals who runs the place with the 150 kg muscles bouncer as the leader of the gang.

No point to call the police, they are for sure all involved in this criminal activity.

What is ROFL?

I have already written what happened. No, I did not give my money away voluntarily, they had to physically rob me in that small room backside by using force. $20 is not one month salary, but $100 is for the local working class. They are the criminals, who do you mean they should have called for?ROFL = rolling on the floor laughing. 150 kg? That's an obese man. They didn't physically rob you, you let them take the money from you. Physically robbing you means holding you down and snatching it. They aren't criminals, although their actions were criminal in nature. They took exactly how much the glass you broke was worth to them. If they robbed you, they would have taken all of your money, your watch, your phone, and your shoes.


As has been mentioned in several Asian threads, if there is a dispute involving a farang, rest assured the Asian guys will come at you in a group thereby eliminating any disadvantage as to their size. It will not be a fair fight.I'm fully aware of this. I'm Asian myself. I've been in several situations like this all around the world, including the States (I don't go looking for fights, people always start with me because they see that I am Asian, so they assume I cannot pose any threat, which is their first mistake). Once you take out the first guy easily, the rest will most likely back off. In group fights, they are never coordinated enough to attack at once, it usually serves as a disadvantage. When I was deployed, to kill time, we would get into fist fights (it was a good way to build camaraderie and exercise our frustrations and rage), and sometimes we would do 3 vs 1, or if really bold, 5 vs 1. I always got my sh! T kicked in, but I became better and smarter every time. I won a 3 vs 1 fight a few times. And these guys were fully trained and at peak fitness (we lift heavy weights to kill time). I doubt most Asians can even match up. I always try to deescalate situations, but if I'm pushed to the brink, I won't hesitate. Even the big ass bouncer at Air Force bar didn't come to help the women when I was making a scene and getting physical when I was disputing the bill. I think if they are alone, with no help, they aren't going to risk it.


This is the dumbest thing I read here in a long time.
That's like your opinion, man! It's dumb, for 99% of you guys. But I was replying to the original poster's situation. If the tuk tuk drivers tried to surround me over a dispute over a few dollars, I would assess the situation as being hostile and take action to defend myself. As in, knock one out and take the other one out soon after, and then scram. It's not dumb, because you really don't know what they're capable of or willing to do. I'm not going to find out! They're poor and desperate, and not very bright. Hopefully, it will make them think twice before trying to use violence or threats of violence as a means of coercion. Live by the sword, be prepared to die by it.

Oorvampu
03-29-15, 08:23
I have never had any problems in Pontoon.True that totally. Getting into a brawl in a foreign country for a few dollars is not really worth it. I have never had any issues with bouncers in Pontoon. They have always been polite. I have heard of these bills going high in LD places where I used to keep a watch. For e. G in 136, they keep kind of a bowl infront of you as a tab, where they keep on adding the drinks bills as and when you order. You can always check it.

Bottomline, how ever built you are, and how much ever a** you can kick, being a bit watchful will always make sure that you don't get into a situation.

Have fun guys. Cambodia is generally a nice place to chill out and especially Sihanoukville. Looking forward to my next trip there.

James02
03-29-15, 20:07
This is a very old and very outdated article from wiki sex, with nothing but incorrect and blatantly wrong information.So as a ball park figure what is the going rate?

James02
03-29-15, 22:55
So I can get a flight from London to Bangkok for 500 with Turkish airlines.

But Turkish airlines don't fly to Cambodia.

So I need cheap airlines from Bangkok to Phnom Penh but I can't find any!

Any help please.

FreebieFan
03-30-15, 02:00
So as a ball park figure what is the going rate?US $20 short. US $ 40 overnight. And upwards. Depends what you got, where you got them from and how good they look, how well they performed, how good they made you feel and all the other variables.

Thats all I've paid in past few trips.

FreebieFan
03-30-15, 02:25
So as a ball park figure what is the going rate?US $20 short. US $ 40 overnight. And upwards. Depends what you got, where you got them from and how good they look, how well they performed, how good they made you feel and all the other variables.

Thats all I've paid in past few trips.

LifeIsABeach
03-30-15, 03:53
So I can get a flight from London to Bangkok for 500 with Turkish airlines.

But Turkish airlines don't fly to Cambodia. So I need cheap airlines from Bangkok to Phnom Penh but I can't find any! Any help please.You will find airlines that go to Siem Reap from Bangkok. Short flight. You could spend about 3 days there visiting the temples and some mongering action. Then take the 14 person van to PP for about USD $10.00.

MaxMM
03-30-15, 13:05
Hi all,

I will be visiting PP in April with a big client and need to entertain him the few nights we're spending there.

I was wondering whether there are some high-end joints with more up-scale girls in PP? I've been told Pontoon used to be the place to to go to to pick up up-scale ladies couple of years ago but might not be the case anymore. Any advise mates? Bars, nightclubs, KTVs, escort agencies, anything that is Worth trying is fine for me as I need to pull out all the stops.

Thanks,

Max

James02
03-30-15, 21:06
US $20 short. US $ 40 overnight. And upwards. Depends what you got, where you got them from and how good they look, how well they performed, how good they made you feel and all the other variables.

Thats all I've paid in past few trips.Has the price gone up in recent years?


You will find airlines that go to Siem Reap from Bangkok. Short flight. You could spend about 3 days there visiting the temples and some mongering action. Then take the 14 person van to PP for about USD $10.00.How much do you think a flight is for that? And with whome.

LifeIsABeach
03-31-15, 00:21
How much do you think a flight is for that? And with whome.Prices varies for the time of the year. Look up the internet and do a search for flights from BKK to Siem Reap for the time you will be flying. Prices will vary again from airline to airline. My buddy from US is going to BKK and then flying to Siem Reap to see the temples. I do not know what airline he is using.

Sean EZ
03-31-15, 00:46
I spent two days in PP, so others may have different view on this but I don't think you'll find it there. Pontoon is happening every night, most girls are P4 P and attitudes are great but I honestly can't say anyone blew my mind in the looks department as well as other girly pickup places mentioned here. By comparison Bangkok is where you find upscale ladies in a sense that they can afford to look better and look after themselves but the price is also multiply by at least 5. The country is still very poor.


Hi all,

I will be visiting PP in April with a big client and need to entertain him the few nights we're spending there.

I was wondering whether there are some high-end joints with more up-scale girls in PP? I've been told Pontoon used to be the place to to go to to pick up up-scale ladies couple of years ago but might not be the case anymore. Any advise mates? Bars, nightclubs, KTVs, escort agencies, anything that is Worth trying is fine for me as I need to pull out all the stops.

Thanks,

Max

Tanman005
03-31-15, 00:51
Hi all,

I will be visiting PP in April with a big client and need to entertain him the few nights we're spending there.

I was wondering whether there are some high-end joints with more up-scale girls in PP? I've been told Pontoon used to be the place to to go to to pick up up-scale ladies couple of years ago but might not be the case anymore. Any advise mates? Bars, nightclubs, KTVs, escort agencies, anything that is Worth trying is fine for me as I need to pull out all the stops.

Thanks,

MaxPM me and I'll give you some recommendations.

SirWilliam4
03-31-15, 03:33
Air Asia is often the cheapest. Bangkok Air is a nice airline and normally a good value.

SW4.


Prices varies for the time of the year. Look up the internet and do a search for flights from BKK to Siem Reap for the time you will be flying. Prices will vary again from airline to airline. My buddy from US is going to BKK and then flying to Siem Reap to see the temples. I do not know what airline he is using.

GreenBud
03-31-15, 05:16
I need cheap airlines from Bangkok to Phnom Penh but I can't find any!

Any help please.The cheapest airline for the flight between Bangkok and Phnom Penh will usually be Air Asia Airline: http://www.airasia.com/ot/en/home.page?cid=1.

GreenBud
03-31-15, 05:30
I was wondering whether there are some high-end joints with more up-scale girls in PP?I am not familiar with the high end scene, but these are the basic facts. Maybe someone can expand and add.

There is a scene at Darlings, the night club / bar in the Naga Casino. I was there couple of times, and I wasn't impressed.

It seems to be common sense that the high end scene will be in the KTVs. Just look at the cars parked outside, very high end luxury cars. Places like? Napoleon, XO, 333?

When I used to rent car and driver, the driver all knew the KTVs. Assuming this will be the same. Your driver who is not on the commission hunt is your best bet for info.

Many years ago, there was the Casa night club. Is that place still open?

Tomasb
03-31-15, 06:34
I flew back yesterday on Bangkok Air and the price was $70 USD plus $61 in taxes or $131. And another $6 fee to buy from website. The $61 tax includes Cambodia airport exit country fee, which used to be about $20.

The airline has a little boutique cafe next to their gate for all customers. For a one hour ten minute flight, they also served a free full meal (Chicken Kiev), and complimentary drinks including wine. Try to find that in the US!

Air Asia has the same route for approximately the same price though doubt chicken Kiev is on menu. Cambodia Angkor Air also has flights but price was slightly higher. I am not aware of any others. There is always the multi-hour bus trip via the fun border town and immigration crossing at Boi Pet.


The cheapest airline for the flight between Bangkok and Phnom Penh will usually be Air Asia Airline: http://www.airasia.com/ot/en/home.page?cid=1.

Tomasb
03-31-15, 07:39
I left PP yesterday but wanted to document my final 24 hours in this peculiar and exotic south east Asian capital city.

It's quite hot there now with temps hovering around 38 centigrade or 98 F. I found myself spending most of my time by the rooftop pool of my hotel with occassional forays out during the day. Really, there is not a lot to do there besides avoiding heat stroke.

However, the evenings offer some diversions. For my last night, I stopped by for happy hour at the legendary Foreign Correspondents Club, the former haunt of Vietnamese wartime journalists. It's situated on the riverfront with nice views and decent happy hour prices. It was still hot at 7:30 pm there as it is an outside venue with fans that barely evaporate the humid air.

Still looking for something to eat and wishing a cooler environment to relieve the sweat dripping off my neck, I came across a modern restaurant bar and cafe called Metro on a corner location about two blocks north of the FCC. This place had decent a / c -- still a rarity in PP -- and also featured some nice small plates, a regular full dinner menu, and well priced wine by the glass. The contemporary designed cafe could have been in any modern Western or Asian city.

The only notable incidents in the restaurant came when a cute young waitress engaged me in a conversation towards the end of my meal. It crossed my mind to ask her to meet me later at Pontoons but since I was leaving the next morning, I did not want to get into a dating type situation. Later on, I wanted the sure thing. Also, two very attractive Khmer women came in wearing beautiful silky dresses and sat down for cocktails. The waitress told me they had been at a wedding. These women, both in their late 20's, were stunning and I exchanged glances with one of them. They looked very HiSO, as they are called in Bangkok, so decided to let that situation stay as it is.

Then I returned to the Rose Bar on 104. The place was quite a bit more sedate than my last visit probably since it was a Sunday. For whatever reason, the women did not strike my fancy and oddly enough no one approached me so perhaps I already have a cheap Charlie reputation. Consuming one drink, I walked over to the Beach Club or some similar sounding name on another side street as some girls had passed their card to me earlier. In this place, a half dozen of them descended on me as I walked into the bar. I sent several on their way and bought LD for the two remaining girls. This was followed by liberal kissing, feeling them up, etc. They said the bar fine was $10 per girl, the upstairs room was $10, and they were $30 each so $90 all in for two girls. But I really lost interest when I determined through conversation that not everything was on menu. For example, one girl offered BJ only while I could bang the other girl. BTW, upon my abrupt departure, I noticed several LB's amongst the other real girls sitting outside. Amazing to me now how they all work together.

Now it was time for Pontoons. Determined to find exactly what I wanted on my last evening or go home empty handed, I took a seat at the end of the bar, near the restrooms, in the space they call the Vibe. The music is not quite as loud and the lighting is better in here. First, part of my deterrence strategy was to tell all girls I wanted to shoo away that I was unavailable because my wife was in my hotel room and gave me a hall pass. This white lie was surprisingly effected and several came by and left quickly upon hearing this misinformation. My girl, who I picked up a few nights ago, also came by. I told her that I was broke and waited to see if she would still hang with me. No, she left upon this news so I guess the romance is over?

Finally, BINGO! I spotted a beautiful looking young Khmer girl, perhaps about 20 yo, dressed in a slinky cocktail dress standing on the opposite side of bar and clearly traveling solo. I caught her eye and within moments she was by my side. She quickly told me she could not speak English. I was going to dismiss her but she kept hanging around, then kissing me and engaging in some dirty dancing. All, I could think was she was clearly starfish material. Too young, too beautiful and to top it off, she only did short time as she lived with her parents. Using my calculator, I determined she would do short time for $40 for one hour. But being the greedy bastard I am, I wanted more than an hour and almost blew the vibe as a result. She eventfully found an older gal in the club who spoke English and was probably one on their 'union' leaders who emphatically told me and her that for more than one hour, it was $50. I never got it straight if that included two pops. When I mumbled something about that was more expensive than Bangkok, the older gal suggested I go back to Bangkok. LOL.

My new friend seemed a bit off put by these negotiations and discussions. Clearly, a newbie and again I thought my starfish early warning alert system had moved the bar to about 80%. Nevertheless, I just had to see this girl naked so agreed to the inflated
price. Upon arriving at my hotel and waiting on line at front desk to provide her I D, I struck up a conversation with a guy in front
of me with a date from Pontoons as well. He looked over my date and complimented me on my choice and perhaps appeared a bit envious.

Finally, in the room she showered first and climbed in the bed wrapped in the towel. After showering, I unwrapped her like a little kid at Christmas and was delighted to see that she had shaved her pussy. Her body was amazing. You could bounce a wet 100 riel bill off her belly. I also was delighted to find that my rough translations earlier reconfirmed she was fine with DATY, which I proceeded to do for quite some time. She became very, very moist and though did not allow fingers seemed fine with my fingers and tounge toying with the outside of her alternate entry. She then slipped my new Japanese condom on my quite stiff member and started pumping away, slowly at first and then deeper and deeper thrusts. Remarkably, I looked at her and she was exchanging these wondrous and rapturous eye to eye long stares with me. I have never experienced this type of look, even with the ex, long time girl friends, casual pickups, and certainly not with WG's. Quite amazing...

Wow! So not a starfish at all. I finally came with a shuddering climax but did not announce anything to her and continued going at it. And, I stayed hard (thanks, Kamagra) though finally rolled off her. Not fully aware I had come, she eyed my engorged member and remounted me, first in straight cowgirl and and then Asian cowgirl. Fantastic! She seemed to come also. Finally, when I rolled her in her back for further fun, she realized I had come and that ended my excursion.

Putting an end to my fantasy, shortly thereafter, I noticed her glancing surreptitiously at her watch. Oh well...

She then sat up for a while with her towel wrapped around her and I was wondering (and hoping) if she was planning to stay longer. But, a weird thing happened. She started to choke and cough, first a little bit, and finally ran to the bathroom to throw up. This happened several more times and I was starting to get concerned as I did not understand the origin or cause. She would return to the bed and sit for a while and then run to the bathroom to throw up. She was not drunk so that was not the cause either. It was almost like she had acid reflux but she is too young for that affliction. Clearly, in some sort of physical distress she announced 'me go now' and put on her clothes. I gave her the $50 and she also asked for a tuk tuk fee. This request for tuk tuk money had not happened before to me either in PP so all in all and end to a peculiar P4P in PP. I would take her again in a New York minute but don't see myself returning to PP any time in near future. Her name Ndine.

James02
03-31-15, 23:20
Prices varies for the time of the year. Look up the internet and do a search for flights from BKK to Siem Reap for the time you will be flying. Prices will vary again from airline to airline. My buddy from US is going to BKK and then flying to Siem Reap to see the temples. I do not know what airline he is using.Done all that before mate prices still coming up 100.


The cheapest airline for the flight between Bangkok and Phnom Penh will usually be Air Asia Airline: http://www.airasia.com/ot/en/home.page?cid=1.Tried that one as well prices still about 100 out of season.


I flew back yesterday on Bangkok Air and the price was $70 USD plus $61 in taxes or $131. And another $6 fee to buy from website. The $61 tax includes Cambodia airport exit country fee, which used to be about $20.

The airline has a little boutique cafe next to their gate for all customers. For a one hour ten minute flight, they also served a free full meal (Chicken Kiev), and complimentary drinks including wine. Try to find that in the US!

Air Asia has the same route for approximately the same price though doubt chicken Kiev is on menu. Cambodia Angkor Air also has flights but price was slightly higher. I am not aware of any others. There is always the multi-hour bus trip via the fun border town and immigration crossing at Boi Pet.Which airports did you fly to and from.

I like the idea of the bus though; dose that run from Bangkok to Phnom Penh; do you need a visa in Bangkok to travel as well as Cambodia?

How much dose the bus cost and who with?


Then take the 14 person van to PP for about USD $10.00.

LifeIsABeach
04-01-15, 03:43
I like the idea of the bus though; dose that run from Bangkok to Phnom Penh; do you need a visa in Bangkok to travel as well as Cambodia?

How much dose the bus cost and who with?The 14 person vans are faster and better than the bus. There are many companies that do the route from Siem Reap to PP and back. You can go to a travel agent or your hotel will know about them. Hotels usually take a small cut. Either way, the vans will pick you up from the hotel. I did it when I went from SR to PP. The flight being BP100.00 sounds cheap to me. I flew from Shookey to Siem Reap on the return and one way fare for a flight less than 1 hour on Cambodia Ankor was over USD200.00 one way. The total by 14 person van would have been USD20.00 but I was not looking forward to the long trip back, over 9 hours on bumpy roads.

Tomasb
04-01-15, 03:47
Most of your questions can be answered on your own by researching the Internet. For example, try wiki travel for Phnom Penh. Nevertheless, the flights with Bangkok Air are from BKK. A 30 day visa is given for free upon arrival in Thailand. If you want 60 days then you have to apply to the Thailand embassy in your home country. A Cambodian visa is issued at one of three border posts if traveling by land or at their airport in Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. It's better to apply on line for their E-Visa -- very efficient site. The Phnom airport appears new and is surprisingly nice given the deplorable infrastructure in the rest of the country.


Done all that before mate prices still coming up 100.

Tried that one as well prices still about 100 out of season.

Which airports did you fly to and from.

I like the idea of the bus though; dose that run from Bangkok to Phnom Penh; do you need a visa in Bangkok to travel as well as Cambodia?

How much dose the bus cost and who with?

James02
04-01-15, 23:48
Does anyone know if the K-11 is still open or not?

Shadow6491
04-02-15, 04:49
Sorry you are about 9-12 years late.

Buko Max
04-02-15, 06:53
I like the idea of the bus though; dose that run from Bangkok to Phnom Penh; do you need a visa in Bangkok to travel as well as Cambodia?

How much dose the bus cost and who with?http://www.capitoltourscambodia.com/index.php?page_id=4

GreenBud
04-03-15, 21:15
This site has good info on Cambodia:

http://www.canbypublications.com/

Hobo0848
04-05-15, 10:14
I'm going to PP during June.

But I have no idea about the place and have no friends there.

Can anyone recommend / PM me a tour guide that knows his way around sex industry in PP?

Or just point me in the right direction on where to get started.

I've seriously read a few hundred posts on this thread and did plenty of Google, but can't get a vague idea.

Everyone seems to know exactly where to go.

Finnish Fucker
04-05-15, 13:26
Finally, BINGO! I spotted a beautiful looking young Khmer girl, perhaps about 20 yo, dressed in a slinky cocktail dress standing on the opposite side of bar and clearly traveling solo. I caught her eye and within moments she was by my side. She quickly told me she could not speak English. I was going to dismiss her but she kept hanging around, then kissing me and engaging in some dirty dancing. All, I could think was she was clearly starfish material. Too young, too beautiful and to top it off, she only did short time as she lived with her parents. Using my calculator, I determined she would do short time for $40 for one hour. But being the greedy bastard I am, I wanted more than an hour and almost blew the vibe as a result. She eventfully found an older gal in the club who spoke English and was probably one on their 'union' leaders who emphatically told me and her that for more than one hour, it was $50. I never got it straight if that included two pops. When I mumbled something about that was more expensive than Bangkok, the older gal suggested I go back to Bangkok. LOL.
One girl asked me 8000 baht in Bangkok in Spasso for short time. I told her I had a girl from Climax for 2000ST. She told me "well you should go back to Climax" LOL. I leaned my lesson. Not to mention prices with 2 different bars to a hooker. It will not help at the end and most probably the price won't come down.

GreenBud
04-05-15, 21:10
Can anyone recommend / PM me a tour guide that knows his way around sex industry in PP?

Or just point me in the right direction on where to get started.

I've seriously read a few hundred posts on this thread and did plenty of Google, but can't get a vague idea.

Everyone seems to know exactly where to go.If you read a few hundred posts, then you should have the names of the establishments / areas.

Then when I get there, I would hire a tuk tuk driver (or a moto driver if you want to save a few dollars) who hangs around your hotel with a decent knowledge of English. The tuk tuk driver will know most of the P4P places.

You can get the tuk tuk driver for approximately between $12 and $20 for 8 hours. I would pay $15. You can also get a car and driver for approximately $30-$35 a day (just google it and find the drivers). Just like the bar girls, make sure you negotiate everything with driver. Transport drivers in Cambodia don't understand the concept of customer service. Make sure they know the hours they are expected to work, and make sure they don't leave you briefly to take a quick transport job for another tourist.

Traveler1234
04-05-15, 22:36
I've seriously read a few hundred posts on this thread and did plenty of Google, but can't get a vague idea.
Be glad to help out, send me a pm and will ping back with details, phone numbers, private recommendations.

Johnny Rocket
04-06-15, 18:00
A bit of topic but I'd like the PP residents' opinions on something. There's a bar in Naga casino on the first floor near where the tuk tuks drop off. A business associate of mine, a Chinese, married a hostess from that bar. She is GORGEOUS and much younger than him, I think about 25. I don't know much else. Would you guys say he married a WG?

Traveler1234
04-06-15, 19:08
A business associate of mine, a Chinese, married a hostess from that bar. She is GORGEOUS and much younger than him, I think about 25. I don't know much else. Would you guys say he married a WG?Quite a few of the hostess girls don't go out with customers and get their income entirely from lady drinks. So I guess it's possible she's not the typical WG.

Sammon
04-06-15, 20:48
Quite a few of the hostess girls don't go out with customers and get their income entirely from lady drinks. So I guess it's possible she's not the typical WG.My experience with living in China and knowing many beautiful hostess girls it is hard to say. Most girls do go with customers. Money is irresistible. In Cambodia it is very much possible the girl went with customers. Whether she did or not the guy married her knowing her line of work and accepted her. There are plenty of people who have married bargirls and happy.

AzhaLover
04-07-15, 06:45
Hi all,

I will be visiting PP in April with a big client and need to entertain him the few nights we're spending there.

I was wondering whether there are some high-end joints with more up-scale girls in PP? I've been told Pontoon used to be the place to to go to to pick up up-scale ladies couple of years ago but might not be the case anymore. Any advise mates? Bars, nightclubs, KTVs, escort agencies, anything that is Worth trying is fine for me as I need to pull out all the stops.

Thanks,

MaxIf your client is Asian, you will want to plan a night at a swanky KTV. Choice of place depends in part on his nationality. Suggest you ask for 2 or 3 possible KTVs at your hotel and then check these out in person prior to client's arrival. The KTVs vary with respect to food, music, and quality of girls. To really impress the client you might make arrangements for a girl or two to join you at the hotel and accompany you to dinner and then the KTV. The KTV will arrange and make sure the girls wear business suits, etc. At the KTV, be prepared to splash out several hundred dollars, all in. You will be buying alcohol by the bottle (Johnny Walker or better) and the price will be a multiple of what you pay in a liquor store. Quality food also will cost. But that's the scene when you are entertaining an Asian client. You got to lay on the bling.

If your client is Western and just wants to play up a bit in PP, your choices are more limited. Some KTVs welcome Westerners, but without some local language and knowledge of KTV customs, you will struggle a bit. Many Westerners do not get the scene for a night at a KTV. There are no interesting upscale P4P places in PP that cater for Westerners. Beer gardens can have interesting girls, but you need to speak Khmer and know how these work. PP does not have the equivalent of a London lap dance club, at least not for Westerners. There are upscale places where you can take your chances on picking up a non P4P lady. But this is probably not what your client expects to do.

I live here for years and never go anywhere near Riverside or St 51 bars; they are all pretty much downmarket and cater to the Cheap Charlie Westerners who get a thrill out of paying $10ST for an illiterate village girl. If your client is important, I would avoid any and all in these areas.

AskeAske
04-07-15, 21:07
Hi all,

I will be visiting PP in April with a big client and need to entertain him the few nights we're spending there.

I was wondering whether there are some high-end joints with more up-scale girls in PP? I've been told Pontoon used to be the place to to go to to pick up up-scale ladies couple of years ago but might not be the case anymore. Any advise mates? Bars, nightclubs, KTVs, escort agencies, anything that is Worth trying is fine for me as I need to pull out all the stops.

Thanks,

MaxI can se you got some answer om this site. No I try. Phnom Penh is not a very good town for mongering, if you are HiSo. If your custommer want to se how Phnom Penh realy is, many from ISG can help you. If he is HISO you can only go to Naga World. Here you can find the more expensive FL.

If he want to se Phnom Penh for real, you have many choices. Show him the more sleazy places, Walkabout and Heart of Dearknes. Go to disco, Poontoon is the best. Take him to the bars. Here you se Phnom Penh when it is at the best. If you want to imprees him, then make agrement with the bar. When you guys come, he will feel like a rockstar. I can recommend Angry Bird and Loco Bar.

MutantChicken
04-08-15, 10:28
I can se you got some answer om this site. No I try. Phnom Penh is not a very good town for mongering, if you are HiSo. If your custommer want to se how Phnom Penh realy is, many from ISG can help you. If he is HISO you can only go to Naga World. Here you can find the more expensive FL.

If he want to se Phnom Penh for real, you have many choices. Show him the more sleazy places, Walkabout and Heart of Dearknes. Go to disco, Poontoon is the best. Take him to the bars. Here you se Phnom Penh when it is at the best. If you want to imprees him, then make agrement with the bar. When you guys come, he will feel like a rockstar. I can recommend Angry Bird and Loco Bar.The problem is the the really hot model type girls are targeted by the rich khymer and the work in the high end KTV that westerners don't frequent due to lack of English ability of the girls, due to the fact its often much more pricier than the riverside bars and the general anti kareokeness of Caucasian westerners which most users of ISG are.

Further the rich kyners don't want their places of fun sullied by foreigners so its unlikely you will get much info generally. I would suggest you make friends with a kymer businessman or ask on a more Asian themed sex forum.

WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 00:32
I left PP yesterday but wanted to document my final 24 hours in this peculiar and exotic south east Asian capital city.

Finally, in the room she showered first and climbed in the bed wrapped in the towel. After showering, I unwrapped her like a little kid at Christmas and was delighted to see that she had shaved her pussy. Her body was amazing. You could bounce a wet 100 riel bill off her belly. I also was delighted to find that my rough translations earlier reconfirmed she was fine with DATY, which I proceeded to do for quite some time. She became very, very moist and though did not allow fingers seemed fine with my fingers and tounge toying with the outside of her alternate entry. She then slipped my new Japanese condom on my quite stiff member and started pumping away, slowly at first and then deeper and deeper thrusts. Remarkably, I looked at her and she was exchanging these wondrous and rapturous eye to eye long stares with me. I have never experienced this type of look, even with the ex, long time girl friends, casual pickups, and certainly not with WG's. Quite amazing...

Wow! So not a starfish at all.

I would take her again in a New York minute.Congratulations on telling a good story well. Those are the kinds of reports that I like to read and try to write myself.

P.S. I'm with you 100% on the eye-to-eye thing. Add in some hot wet kissing, plus some panting and moaning at the right time and it's nirvana. I was lucky enough to rack up a few of those experiences in Pattaya just recently. Luck of the draw: there is no way to tell beforehand.

James02
04-09-15, 19:42
Sorry you are about 9-12 years late.So what did they do with it?

Did they bulldoze it down or do people still live there?

Haikuzo
04-12-15, 10:20
Hi,

I'm in search of girl friendly hotel in PP. Have you a list?

I found the plantation urban resort, I like but I don't know if it's GF.

I searched in forum but I didn't find hotel lists.

Thank you

James02
04-13-15, 07:52
Is Sihanoukville still a good place to visit for finding girls?

Forever69
04-13-15, 11:52
Hi,

I'm in search of girl friendly hotel in PP. Have you a list?

I found the plantation urban resort, I like but I don't know if it's GF.

I searched in forum but I didn't find hotel lists.

Thank youWhy don't you e-mail them and ask them before making your reservation?

James02
04-13-15, 23:48
Any info on Tual Kork please.

If its still going?

AussieGuy100
04-14-15, 04:52
Any info on Tual Kork please.

If its still going?Why not look through the last 10-20 pages on this forum or do searches for Sihanoukville bars, K11, Toul Kork etc. Lots of useful information.

LifeIsABeach
04-14-15, 06:05
Is Sihanoukville still a good place to visit for finding girls?James I's all in the posts. RTFF.

PolyOrchid
04-14-15, 16:23
James I's all in the posts. RTFF.Hi James. I visited for the first time a few weeks ago and, personally, would not waste another trip to the city. Beaches are dirty, restaurants pretty unimpressive, and many p4 p girls markedly underwhelming.

Having said that, I did discover Victory Hill on the last few days of my visit. I went there to a wonderful restaurant, the Corner Bar, and when passing by found that the street / area is filled with street girls.

A couple stunners, but mostly vacant eyes, fake smiles, or none at all. In its defense, I will say Victory Hill was heavily loaded with Frenchmen, a positive for me. But, as for mongering, I'd definitely give Snooky a pass.

YMMV.

Biffduff
04-15-15, 05:44
Just finishing up four nights in PP before heading back to BKK this afternoon. All in all, a great time had, although I went a bit over budget. However, that's what vacations are for!

Day 1:

Get in at about 5 pm. $30 visa (2 for a damn 'picture' that they never take). $5 simcard. $12 taxi to hotel on 108St. Not much that night, just get hammered on 136St at a couple of bars. I was pretty hungover, so my mood wasn't matching the party scene. My fault, not theirs. Have a slight suspicion that my bill was padded at Mr Butterfly, but have no hard evidence.

Day 2:

Sleep in late, then hit up 104St in the evening. Meet an absolute stunner in Air Force Bar, named Ajarn. I didn't intend to find a companion so quickly, but it was too difficult to resist. Brought her back for short time (2 shots was denied when we were in the bar, but she ended up wanting a second round when we were in the hotel). $10 bar fine and $45 for her company. Head back out to 136St and get drunk again and in a much better mood.

Day 3:

Hit up The Killing Fields and S21. Definitely not for the faint of heart if some members here haven't partaken, but a pretty important piece of history that can't be forgotten. End up drinking on 118 that night and then head to Pontoon. Tons of hotties there, but my pal was quoted $100 for an hour. I didn't see anything that warranted that kind of price, so I slept alone.

Day 4:

Again head to 136 and drink at the place across the road from Mr Butterfly. Meet a super cute petite gal, but can't remember her name now (something like Sarinot). Bring her home for long time. $10 bar fine and $60 to the girl. I'm pretty pleased with this price, since she was hot, a good performer, and we did the deed a total of four times. Had a brief moment of doubt when she said she had to quickly go back to the bar after our first round (apparently, she had mistakenly taken her friends keys). I thought she'd be gone for good, but she left her purse and various other things, saying that she'd be back in 30 minutes. She was true to her word, so no harm done.

Once again, not revolutionary information, but I enjoyed my time. I'll be back in June or July, I'm sure.

Ctr David
04-15-15, 23:00
Hey,

I was wondering if anybody has tried this place out recently, I couldn't seem to find anything when using the search facility.

I have read some good reviews on this place elsewhere and, apparently, the girls are separated in to Viet and Khmer, many of which are beauties (see below).

Looks like a nice place to visit in the day time whilst sight seeing, call it a siesta! Anyhow, unless somebody responds telling me I'm better placed finishing myself off in my hotel, I shall report my findings in a couple of weeks.

Many thanks and kind regards!

"There are more than two dozen of extremely hot and white skinned girls in the "show room" at any time of the day (though slightly more in the evening). They are divided into two categories: Cambodian Girls who have blue numbers and Vietnamese Girls who have red numbers. There are usually more Cambodians than Vietnamese in the fishbowl and the reason for this might not be that they have more Cambodian girls but because the majority of the customers prefer the Vietnamese type of girls so they are more busy.

The price for a one hour body massage is 10 USD for all girls. This obviously doesn't include any extras as they have to be negotiated later with the girl. ".

Shadow6491
04-22-15, 07:05
So what did they do with it?

Did they bulldoze it down or do people still live there?They concreted the roads made it nice and people live there like any other neighborhood.

Shadow6491
04-22-15, 07:08
Any info on Tual Kork please.

If its still going?Really Is K11 still going is Toul Kourk still going is Snooky still going. Senior Member? Read some reports and a few pages.

Artyali
04-22-15, 11:59
Hey,

I was wondering if anybody has tried this place out recently, I couldn't seem to find anything when using the search facility.

I have read some good reviews on this place elsewhere and, apparently, the girls are separated in to Viet and Khmer, many of which are beauties (see below).

Looks like a nice place to visit in the day time whilst sight seeing, call it a siesta! Anyhow, unless somebody responds telling me I'm better placed finishing myself off in my hotel, I shall report my findings in a couple of weeks.

Many thanks and kind regards!

"There are more than two dozen of extremely hot and white skinned girls in the "show room" at any time of the day (though slightly more in the evening). They are divided into two categories: Cambodian Girls who have blue numbers and Vietnamese Girls who have red numbers. There are usually more Cambodians than Vietnamese in the fishbowl and the reason for this might not be that they have more Cambodian girls but because the majority of the customers prefer the Vietnamese type of girls so they are more busy.

The price for a one hour body massage is 10 USD for all girls. This obviously doesn't include any extras as they have to be negotiated later with the girl. ".I've been to Massa a few times. I got a tuk-tuk to take me to the street, then walked up the stairs to the first floor. There I was met by the mamasan, who took me to a sofa to sit in front of a fish bowl. There were about 30 women, all dressed in similar fashion (low-cut red tops with jeans) and looking very sexy. They wore numbers and the mamasan told me the blue numbers were khmer and reds Vietnamese. They all smiled and waved, but one came in the room and sat down and I immediately saw her great tits. I picked her within seconds and I paid 10 dollars. She took me to a room that had a bed and shower, but all very run-down. I showered and then she massaged me thoroughly. Then she asked if I wanted 'boom-boom', I said no just handjob. After (lots of negotiating), she wanted 40 dollars, I said no. Eventually agreed 30 but no taking her top off, which was disappointing, but she would let me play with them. She rubbed me while I squeezed and groped her beautiful tits (the best ones I have ever felt-natural, big, beautiful)! She made me cum very nicely and although she spoke almost no English, it was an enjoyable time. The bargaining is annoying and I over-paid. This was a few months ago so that girl has probably moved on.

Enjoy!

Muzungufotsy
04-22-15, 13:56
40 $ for a handjob by a girl with clothes on? WTF?

What s wrong with mongers in Cambodia these days?

I believe in Cambodia in 2015 you can get a night of non stop fucking for less than that right?

Some guys are really desperate I think.

Ctr David
04-22-15, 21:08
I've been to Massa a few times. I got a tuk-tuk to take me to the street, then walked up the stairs to the first floor. There I was met by the mamasan, who took me to a sofa to sit in front of a fish bowl. There were about 30 women, all dressed in similar fashion (low-cut red tops with jeans) and looking very sexy. They wore numbers and the mamasan told me the blue numbers were khmer and reds Vietnamese. They all smiled and waved, but one came in the room and sat down and I immediately saw her great tits. I picked her within seconds and I paid 10 dollars. She took me to a room that had a bed and shower, but all very run-down. I showered and then she massaged me thoroughly. Then she asked if I wanted 'boom-boom', I said no just handjob. After (lots of negotiating), she wanted 40 dollars, I said no. Eventually agreed 30 but no taking her top off, which was disappointing, but she would let me play with them. She rubbed me while I squeezed and groped her beautiful tits (the best ones I have ever felt-natural, big, beautiful)! She made me cum very nicely and although she spoke almost no English, it was an enjoyable time. The bargaining is annoying and I over-paid. This was a few months ago so that girl has probably moved on.

Enjoy!Hey Artyali,

Many thanks for your report! I have read a few good stories so may give it a punt but, even by your own admission, $30 is steep for a HJ. Call me naive but I would have expect ST for that! I'm not too well drilled when it comes to negotiating, so I'll probably be catching an early flight home haha! I suppose if you're getting a good massage out of it for $10, you can always pass up on the extra's without leaving disappointed.

I arrive late evening so I'm going to hit up Angry Birds on my first night, I like the sound of the place with its chilled out music and vibe. I understand it's women are meant to be pretty good too!

Artyali
04-23-15, 09:11
40 $ for a handjob by a girl with clothes on? WTF?

What s wrong with mongers in Cambodia these days?

I believe in Cambodia in 2015 you can get a night of non stop fucking for less than that right?

Some guys are really desperate I think.As I said, I overpaid. You can see from the amount of posts (3 total) that I'm not exactly a hardcore monger, just a beginner. When you're horny / desperate then negotiation sometimes goes out the window.

Muzungufotsy
04-23-15, 15:08
That's what this board is for: to give beginners information so they don't do mistakes and don't overpay.

I guess you didn't read Phnom Penh thread before going there.

AussieGuy100
04-24-15, 03:53
That's what this board is for: to give beginners information so they don't do mistakes and don't overpay.

I guess you didn't read Phnom Penh thread before going there.Some info about Massage 252.

The massage is actually $6, not $10. You pay after the massage. Just say to the cashier "Massage $6" and hand her that amount.

The $10 rate is for tourists. Can't blame the cashier for trying to earn a little extra!

Often there is a young guy there to help you rather than a mamasan. Listen to his advice on which girls are good! Some of the girls are real starfish, despite looking beautiful.

The usual rate for full service is $25-35 depending on your negotiating skills and on the girl. They vary quite a bit depending on how much they need the money.

Don't expect the whole GFE here. The girls are mostly reasonably friendly but you won't get a cuddly, kissing type experience. It's basically go the the room, negotiate the price (don't bother with the hopeless massage, you're only wasting valuable banging time) and bang away. A few of the girls will do blow jobs but negotiate this beforehand.

AussieGuy100
04-24-15, 04:02
Hey Artyali,
I arrive late evening so I'm going to hit up Angry Birds on my first night, I like the sound of the place with its chilled out music and vibe. I understand it's women are meant to be pretty good too!Good choice. It has a fun atmosphere in there, the twenty or so girls are attentive and friendly but they won't hassle you for drinks. The music is not played super loud which is nice and as a bonus the toilets there are very clean and modern - not like many of the bars.
Island Bar in 118, and Cosy Bar, VVIP and Xanadu in 136 can be fun too.

Bubba999
04-24-15, 09:21
Hey Artyali,

Many thanks for your report! I have read a few good stories so may give it a punt but, even by your own admission, $30 is steep for a HJ. Call me naive but I would have expect ST for that! I'm not too well drilled when it comes to negotiating, so I'll probably be catching an early flight home haha! I suppose if you're getting a good massage out of it for $10, you can always pass up on the extra's without leaving disappointed.

I arrive late evening so I'm going to hit up Angry Birds on my first night, I like the sound of the place with its chilled out music and vibe. I understand it's women are meant to be pretty good too!I can second AussieGuy's recommendation on Angry Birds Bar. Def laid back and friendly place and you don't get bugged for drinks all the time. Girls friendly and lots of hottie. And yes they do have super clean toilets which is a relief after the wildlife I have seen in some others!!

Ctr David
04-24-15, 22:41
I can second AussieGuy's recommendation on Angry Birds Bar. Def laid back and friendly place and you don't get bugged for drinks all the time. Girls friendly and lots of hottie. And yes they do have super clean toilets which is a relief after the wildlife I have seen in some others!!Dear Bubba & AussieGuy's,

Sounds great, thank you for your comments! I am arriving from SR in the evening, plus it'll be my first ever night in PP, so a nice chilled vibe surrounded by beautiful women is just the ticket! By nature I'm a chilled person and can be a little overwhelmed. I'm not ashamed to admit my only visit to Pattaya was quite overwhelming, I actually approached a couple of guys on Soi 6 (I heard them speaking English) and asked if I could walk up the street with them. All my pre-visit thoughts of alpha-male, fuck everything in sight, soon when to shit when I came to "walk the walk" - so to speak haha!

Anyway, I will be sure to share my experiences in Angry Birds and elsewhere upon my return. Only 6 days to go, I can't wait!

Further to Massage 252, where else would you suggest for a day time, short time, session?

Member #4530
04-28-15, 05:59
Guys just curious. Its been a few years since I've been to PP. Does Martinis still exist? Anything going on there?

Thanks,

Waffles.

FreebieFan
04-28-15, 06:53
I can second AussieGuy's recommendation on Angry Birds Bar. Def laid back and friendly place and you don't get bugged for drinks all the time. Girls friendly and lots of hottie. And yes they do have super clean toilets which is a relief after the wildlife I have seen in some others!!Theres another cool bar near there called Simply the best. Or something like that. Was cool, easy, fun place with no pressure at all and a couple very nice ladies.

Aussie Fella
04-29-15, 10:26
Dear Bubba & AussieGuy's,

Sounds great, thank you for your comments! I am arriving from SR in the evening, plus it'll be my first ever night in PP, so a nice chilled vibe surrounded by beautiful women is just the ticket! By nature I'm a chilled person and can be a little overwhelmed. I'm not ashamed to admit my only visit to Pattaya was quite overwhelming, I actually approached a couple of guys on Soi 6 (I heard them speaking English) and asked if I could walk up the street with them. All my pre-visit thoughts of alpha-male, fuck everything in sight, soon when to shit when I came to "walk the walk" - so to speak haha!

Anyway, I will be sure to share my experiences in Angry Birds and elsewhere upon my return. Only 6 days to go, I can't wait!

Further to Massage 252, where else would you suggest for a day time, short time, session?I know how you feel. I felt a bit overwhelmed the first time I went to Angeles City. There's no shame in it as different people react in different ways. Once I got the lay of the land and found out how things work it was fantastic but the first few bars I went into were a bit intimidating.

Oorvampu
05-02-15, 13:41
I know how you feel. I felt a bit overwhelmed the first time I went to Angeles City. There's no shame in it as different people react in different ways. Once I got the lay of the land and found out how things work it was fantastic but the first few bars I went into were a bit intimidating.It won't take long. A couple of bars and you get a hang of it. I had a good time in 136, where one of the girls accompanied me for 3 days. First day when I went there, was quiet tired and just had a couple of beers and chatted a while. Next day when I went the girls were super friendly. In my second trip, met a hottie in Pontoon, who actually was from one of the bars in street 136. Had a good time and then she asked me to come to the bar the next day. Had a great time with a couple of her friends, at a place in first floor. All it costed was a couple of lady drinks for her friends to be there with us. Just the day before leaving PP, she was pretty high having drank a lot of shots, and came with me. Awesome time we had. And both the times I was alone and never felt out of place or overwhelmed. So, chill, and take it easy. Khmers are very polite and friendly people.

Shyam.

AyranMan
05-03-15, 14:33
I am travelling alone. If my hotel said out of the blue when I was checking in, "if you bring a friend here, they need to check their passport in at the front desk", does that mean it's a bar girl friendly hotel? It's a more expensive hotel.

Ersnh
05-03-15, 21:31
I'm thinking of taking a trip to either Phnom Penh or Saigon, never been to either one. Has anyone been to both? What's been your experience?

AussieGuy100
05-04-15, 01:38
I am travelling alone. If my hotel said out of the blue when I was checking in, "if you bring a friend here, they need to check their passport in at the front desk", does that mean it's a bar girl friendly hotel? It's a more expensive hotel.It means the hotel is definitely not bargirl friendly. They are hoping that any girl you bring back from a bar won't have a passport, ie they can refuse her entry to the hotel. Unfortunately for them quite a few bargirls do have passports these days as they get taken on holidays to Thailand, Singapore and other countries by guys they meet here.

The vast majority of hotels and guesthouses in Cambodia are girl friendly, so maybe choose another one. Some still ask if you "need a girl" as you are being shown your room.

Oorvampu
05-04-15, 04:44
I am travelling alone. If my hotel said out of the blue when I was checking in, "if you bring a friend here, they need to check their passport in at the front desk", does that mean it's a bar girl friendly hotel? It's a more expensive hotel.They might ask for some kind of ID, not necessarily passport. If they insist on passport, it is a clear sign that they are not girl friendly. But you can always move to other hotels if that is the case. One hotel I stayed in Siem Reap asked for a joiner fee of $15, but they said it is essentially for the buffet breakfast which to me sounded cannot argue with it. They did not ask for her passport but some ID. One hotel in Sihanoukville had a board that was outright derogatory saying that the hotel is not a brothel and unless the guests check in together, no one will be allowed into the rooms. Luckily I booked only for one day and next day moved to Coolabah. It is not worth loosing your sleep arguing with the hotel guys when you just want to do your thing.

Fast Eddie 48
05-05-15, 20:15
I'm thinking of taking a trip to either Phnom Penh or Saigon, never been to either one. Has anyone been to both? What's been your experience?To Ersnh.

I been to Phnom Penh 2 time and HMC 3 time will I go back maybe for business, if you just want to go there for p4 p for the cheap only there are much better country in SE Asia you can go to.

Fast Eddie 48.

Ersnh
05-06-15, 02:23
Thanks, which other SEA countries would you recommend? I've gone to Thailand frequently and while I enjoy it, I'm open to other options. FYI the Philippines is next on my list.

Fast Eddie 48
05-07-15, 02:11
Thanks, which other SEA countries would you recommend? I've gone to Thailand frequently and while I enjoy it, I'm open to other options. FYI the Philippines is next on my list.To Ersnh.

I been all over SE Asia if you read some of my post you might find some useful info.

Fast eddie 48.

Goons
05-13-15, 10:09
I was in PP last year initially staying at a 13 usd place that did not allow for girls which was fine at first since I just took them to the short time places for quickies until I moved to Nana / Circuit Hotel for 19 usd. I'm OK with Nana but it's a bit far from the bars and the rooms are tiny. I'll be staying for three weeks in PP this time so I'd like something affordable, preferably 20-30 or even less if anyone knows.

Thanks

Titanio
05-13-15, 22:51
I was in PP last year initially staying at a 13 usd place that did not allow for girls which was fine at first since I just took them to the short time places for quickies until I moved to Nana / Circuit Hotel for 19 usd. I'm OK with Nana but it's a bit far from the bars and the rooms are tiny. I'll be staying for three weeks in PP this time so I'd like something affordable, preferably 20-30 or even less if anyone knows.

ThanksTry the Pillar Hotel corner of street 102 and River Side. Around 20 dollars a night including breakfast, and no issues to take girls back to your room at all. In the middel of the scene and no crampie rooms. Great place, friendly staff and good breakfast.

Shron
05-14-15, 06:17
Hello friends.

I will be traveling to pp through June 5th to 9th. And plan to stay golden house international at riverside. Please let me know if anyone available there at that time to catch up for coffee or drink.

BTW is golden house is green for girls? Please advise.

Regards.

Shron.

Ito038
05-15-15, 11:57
I went to Phnom Penh during Vietnamese big holiday in the end of April with my Thai friend. As this is our first trip to Phnom Penh, RTTF proved to be very useful (I read up to 30 pages). We stayed at Home feel hotel on booking, lovely hotel and very girl friendly (they actually said that in the respond email I asked them if they are girl friendly LOL.

Not so bad city, a much fresh scene compared to the overcrowded Hochiminh city, and the people are very laid back or kinda lazy. Start the bar hunt at 9 pm. Went through the usual Air force, colonial, Rose, Smile girl, oasis, Lemon Sizzlers, the quality is actually pretty bad by Asian standard LOL. Maybe there are 1 decent ones in some of them but there are 2 of us so we keep on moving. Trying to walk to LE cyrcee from street 136, turn out to be a very bad idea, took the tuk tuk when there s only 2 block away (2 big blocks). Slightly better selection, but the girl caught my interest has small boobs. The night still young so we moved on. It s bad luck that Pontoon was closed for the week (renovation or something, don't want to see the gay bar Hear of darkest so we headed to Naga to gamble and check out the talents.

Gambling proved to be the even worse idea so went to the club to check the girls, turn out the best girls in Phnom Penh by concentration and average hotness is nested here. The score is starting from 7, there s no 10 but many 8's. Asking price is steep 100- 150 all night, many Viet but since I just came from Vietnam, I focused on Khmer talents. Pick a slim tall tanned one for $120 while my friend s sticking to the vanila Viet, brought home and fucked her senseless. Very GFE, decent English compared to bar girl. The funny thing the girl has her own car- a Toyota Camry and she drove us back LOL.

Cheers

Roderick
05-17-15, 16:34
Unfortunately, the PC Hotel no longer operates.


Next time you can try PC Hotel, opposite Walkabout. Bigger bathrooms with separated showers. And the issue with the breakfast in Circuit hotel, very well know. I always tell them that I booked a double room, only consumed one breakfast so they should at least give me a refill for free, otherwise I order the second breakfast. Never a problem then anymore, apart from Hong Kong where normally only one breakfast is included in the room price.

BeachBoy46
05-19-15, 02:39
Unfortunately, the PC Hotel no longer operates.The French arsehole that owned it was such an ignorant prick, its no surprise that it went down the gurgler.

SaintSeiya
05-20-15, 09:18
Hi Folks,

I will be in PP for some days early June!

Since it's my first time there, may I know if there is any call girl agency?

Where can I find the WG easily? Any suggested hotel that I can find them?

Is there any sauna place like those in BKK?

Thanks all brother!

AskeAske
05-20-15, 13:37
Hi Folks,

I will be in PP for some days early June!

Since it's my first time there, may I know if there is any call girl agency?

Where can I find the WG easily? Any suggested hotel that I can find them?

Is there any sauna place like those in BKK?

Thanks all brother!Saint, you are a regular member with 19 postings. Most of them with a lot of questions. Read back in this thread and you have answer to all your questions. When you have been in Phnom Penh, write a rapport. Next time you ask questions, maybe some want to help you.

Member #4698
05-20-15, 17:37
Hi Folks,

I will be in PP for some days early June! Where can I find the WG easily? Any suggested hotel that I can find them? Is there any sauna place like those in BKK?
SaintSeiya, I tried to send you a Private Message, but apparently you are not a subscribed member of the forum. Sign up and pay your membership dues and I will send you some suggestions. Otherwise go back 9 months or so and RTFF. Everything you are asking about has already been discussed multiple times by various board members. At the very minimum check out the ROD thread.

Titanio
05-21-15, 22:13
The French arsehole that owned it was such an ignorant prick, its no surprise that it went down the gurgler.Yes, I agree about that prick. Cyclo Hotel more or less the same. But in that price range you won't have so many options in that area. Whenever I am in Phnom Penh, I stay away from that area and reside on River side. Slightly more expensive but some nice hotels around sleazy bars fir a night of fun once in a while.

Hunt Now
05-25-15, 11:12
Hello friends.

I will be traveling to pp through June 5th to 9th. And plan to stay golden house international at riverside. Please let me know if anyone available there at that time to catch up for coffee or drink.

BTW is golden house is green for girls? Please advise.

Regards.

Shron.Yes, Golden house international is girl friendly. I'm here then and happy to meet up.

Shron
05-26-15, 10:59
Yes, Golden house international is girl friendly. I'm here then and happy to meet up.Thank you so much Hunt now. Let us catch up for drink in PP. Appreciated!

BillyJ
05-26-15, 14:05
Wondering if anyone has advice on the best time / season to go to PP. I have never been, was thinking it may make sense to wait until the cooler season like around November, when the weather would be more tolerable. It seems quite hot right now, though if one stays indoors in an air conditioned hotel during the day, the evening temperatures seem fairly tolerable.

I'm wondering if perhaps the "hot" season, now, might actually be a good time to go, with tourism low and smaller crowds to compete with, perhaps the gentleman to lady ratio is more favorable now? Or does it not make much difference, hot season versus "cool" season?

Thanks for any tips, if I wind up going will post a report.

Fast Eddie 48
05-27-15, 02:32
Wondering if anyone has advice on the best time / season to go to PP. I have never been, was thinking it may make sense to wait until the cooler season like around November, when the weather would be more tolerable. It seems quite hot right now, though if one stays indoors in an air conditioned hotel during the day, the evening temperatures seem fairly tolerable.

I'm wondering if perhaps the "hot" season, now, might actually be a good time to go, with tourism low and smaller crowds to compete with, perhaps the gentleman to lady ratio is more favorable now? Or does it not make much difference, hot season versus "cool" season?

Thanks for any tips, if I wind up going will post a report.To Billy J.

If you go in the summer month it is so hot and rainy there are a lot of dirt road here and it turn to mud after a heavy rain, I been to PP in Jan there are still a lot of girl avalible.

Fast eddie 48.

Sammon
05-27-15, 16:13
Wondering if anyone has advice on the best time / season to go to PP. I have never been, was thinking it may make sense to wait until the cooler season like around November, when the weather would be more tolerable. It seems quite hot right now, though if one stays indoors in an air conditioned hotel during the day, the evening temperatures seem fairly tolerable.

I'm wondering if perhaps the "hot" season, now, might actually be a good time to go, with tourism low and smaller crowds to compete with, perhaps the gentleman to lady ratio is more favorable now? Or does it not make much difference, hot season versus "cool" season?

Thanks for any tips, if I wind up going will post a report.It is a hot country any time you go. Winter months are little better in the evening but daytime is same with hot sun.

If you are going for girls air con is everywhere. Never there is a short supply of willing girls.

If you are going for sightseeing do it early morning hours when it tends to be cooler all year around. Afternoons can be hell.

Pinche Gringo
05-28-15, 09:21
Mid to late June starts the rainy season in Cambodia. The roads in PP and the surrounding areas can flood at times. I would wait until November if it was me.


Wondering if anyone has advice on the best time / season to go to PP. I have never been, was thinking it may make sense to wait until the cooler season like around November, when the weather would be more tolerable. It seems quite hot right now, though if one stays indoors in an air conditioned hotel during the day, the evening temperatures seem fairly tolerable.

I'm wondering if perhaps the "hot" season, now, might actually be a good time to go, with tourism low and smaller crowds to compete with, perhaps the gentleman to lady ratio is more favorable now? Or does it not make much difference, hot season versus "cool" season?

Thanks for any tips, if I wind up going will post a report.

Shron
06-06-15, 12:10
Having great time at PP. Checked in yesterday 5th 10 am and after had nice shower hit candy.

Spent two hours with bar girls and picked up one cute 21.

Spent 90 min and Had two pop up and gave 40 USD. Slept after couple of beers.

Went to foot massage at 7. 30 pm and cuty agreed to do body massage at my room. Waited for her and when she arrived it was 9 pm. Having good conversation she was ready to do full service with lot of shy.

Had good time with her and sent off, had couple of more beer and slept like pig.

Dear Hunt now and other ISG friends, willing to have drink with you if you are available. Please let me know.

Shron.

Kniom
06-07-15, 11:10
Does Martinis still exist? Anything going on there?I went to Martini 4 weeks ago. It is almost dead! No one inside the disco and only Chinese / Korean guys inside the beergarden.

SaintSeiya
06-08-15, 05:23
Was in PP last week about 2 days!

Found 2 young ladies in Cycree 1 night, 30 USD each with very proactive service! I love it.

But the tuk tuk request 5 USD for a 5-8 minutes distance to my hotel.

Another night in Pontoon, but no action since will leave early next morning!

Overall, good rate in my experience!

Bule2004
06-17-15, 05:00
The last report on Solun's Place was almost exactly two years ago (see below).

During 2009 - 2011 I stopped by Sokun's Place every time I traveled to Phnom Penh. After a long dry spell, I went there again last week and learned the following:

* The salon / massage parlour has been renamed Srey, and Sokun is no longer part of the business.

* Sokun's girlfriend, Srey, took over the business and renamed it, but I do not know the details of their split (seems not friendly!

* There were 8 girls on duty for regular salon duty, and massage. They were not nearly as cute as the ones before, and I get the sense Srey has downplayed the massage activities for the salon services.

* I have now visited Srey's Place (nee Sokun's Place) a total of three times. The quality of girls did not vary but Srey's skills at shaving, etc. Are great and worth the visit. NB: At NO TIME was there another customer present.

* I did not partake of a massage.

How does my recent experiences with Srey's Place compare to other customers?

The 2013 posting:

Sokun's Place A massage parlor and saloon near Street 108 (just before the Night Market) on riverside. Staffed by a dozen Khmer girls, most of whom are around 20 years old, pretty, petite and light skinned. Get the oil massage for $7 (I think). Head upstairs. Negotiate directly with the girl for a hand finish. You have to be quiet and they will sometimes look around like they're afraid to do it, but it's a standard option. Most report giving a $10 tip, and that works, but you may have to negotiate. Some will try to start out as high as $30! Their tops don't come off. Open 11 am 11 pm. Higher score just because most of the staff is attractive. (3. 5/5).

Card Boy
06-17-15, 23:10
Was in PP last week about 2 days!

Found 2 young ladies in Cycree 1 night, 30 USD each with very proactive service! I love it.

But the tuk tuk request 5 USD for a 5-8 minutes distance to my hotel.

Another night in Pontoon, but no action since will leave early next morning!

Overall, good rate in my experience!Usually Khmer girls are somehow reluctant in doing threesomes. Your experience?

Lefeu
06-18-15, 00:07
Usually Khmer girls are somehow reluctant in doing threesomes. Your experience?Not at Cyrcee. The last time I was in PP with my wingman. We were there every night, 3 days in a row. My wingman had 3 girls one night. I had the same girl every night, but she picked another girl for 3-some. All girls seemed very comfortable with the set up.

Card Boy
06-18-15, 00:11
Not at Cyrcee. The last time I was in PP with my wingman. We were there every night, 3 days in a row. My wingman had 3 girls one night. I had the same girl every night, but she picked another girl for 3-some. All girls seemed very comfortable with the set up.I should pay LC a visit then. Usually I do spent my time beginning in 136 bars ending up in Pontoon with bottle service at the table and one particular girl (= a regular) next to me. Always fun.

Want to share some drinks next week?

Member #4530
06-24-15, 11:41
I went to Martini 4 weeks ago. It is almost dead! No one inside the disco and only Chinese / Korean guys inside the beergarden.Thanks for the update Kniom. Death of a 20-year-old institution. Sad.

Card Boy
06-24-15, 12:15
Thanks for the update Kniom. Death of a 20-year-old institution. Sad.Same experience last night. Damned sad, the good times seem to be gone😰.

Rstoff
06-28-15, 13:20
Can anyone tell me why it is so difficult to Barfine a stunner from Loco Bar. I have given up trying know.

Member #4698
06-29-15, 04:01
Can anyone tell me why it is so difficult to Barfine a stunner from Loco Bar. I have given up trying know.Nowadays there are a number of attractive hostess girls that refuse to barfine and prefer to make a living selling drinks rather than selling their pussy. I think it is a foolish career decision for an attractive young girl to make because drinking multiple Tequila shots every night is a lot rougher on the body and the looks than shagging and it earns less. But that is what some hot Khmer girls prefer to do. They are BMD (Buy Me Drink) girls.

I have known this one particularly hot hostess girl for two years now. She originally worked in Oasis Bar when I first met her in 2014 and recently she moved along with her entourage to Rose Bar. She does not barfine, believe me, I have tried to get her and failed on many occasions. But I still had some good times hanging out and drinking with her and her gang. Ha Ha. She attracts a lot of customers, myself included, who are willing to buy her and her friends rounds of drinks due to her exotic good looks and sexy personality. This girl's friends are not anywhere as attractive as she is, but they are more than willing to barfine and shag a customer after the customer has had a few drinks and been turned down by the stunner. I am pretty sure that my little miss stunner gets a cut from her friend's barfine and tip. She is the honey rainmaker and leader of the group. They work as a team and their system is well designed. But, in only a few years my stunner's looks will fade due to all the booze she consumes and her rainmaking days will be over. She will barfine then. I am sure of it.

If you want to drop all this BS and find a stunner who will shag and provide GFE like it was in the good old days (pre 2009), go to Darling Darling. There are boatloads of well dressed FL stunners there and they all will want to shag you. You don't have to buy them a drink or nothing. Just smile and say hi. The only problem is they all want $100. BKK Go Go prices more or less.

Traveler1234
06-29-15, 15:20
Can anyone tell me why it is so difficult to Barfine a stunner from Loco Bar. I have given up trying know.Hehe, welcome to PP style. In many bars, many can be BF but there are those who only sit and drink. I know the owner quite well and he says some of his girls are there only to get LD commissions.

I ran into the same my last visit. The stunner drank and was very very GFE but said she was on 'mems', code word for NO. So I got #2 and had a great time back in my room. YMMV.

AskeAske
06-29-15, 17:12
Hehe, welcome to PP style. In many bars, many can be BF but there are those who only sit and drink. I know the owner quite well and he says some of his girls are there only to get LD commissions.

I ran into the same my last visit. The stunner drank and was very very GFE but said she was on 'mems', code word for NO. So I got #2 and had a great time back in my room. YMMV.If you are a regular in a bar, then sometimes you can BF one of those stunners. Some of them do accept to be BF sometimes. Most offen in low season, if they need money. Not many custommers, not so many LD.

I prefer the other girls. Stunners are very offen starfish.

Rstoff
06-30-15, 20:16
Yes Loco Bar does appear to be a little Conservative. My No 1 Lady just upped and left over a Month ago. No text. No calls. No email and her facebook page blocked to everyone? Mystery. Still many fish as they say.

Rstoff
07-05-15, 14:41
Can anyone tell me when the High Season starts in Phnom Penh and when it officially finishes. I ask this question because according to some people March is regarded as Low Season. But I have been to Phnom Penh many times during March and it always seems busy to me. Surely the rains don't arrive till late May. Just a technicality.

AskeAske
07-06-15, 11:21
Can anyone tell me when the High Season starts in Phnom Penh and when it officially finishes. I ask this question because according to some people March is regarded as Low Season. But I have been to Phnom Penh many times during March and it always seems busy to me. Surely the rains don't arrive till late May. Just a technicality.Wet / low season is May to October (most rain in July to September).

Dry / high season is November to April (March and April can be very hot).

Most tourist come in December, January and February.

Kniom
07-07-15, 10:53
Can anyone tell me when the High Season starts in Phnom Penh and when it officially finishes. I ask this question because according to some people March is regarded as Low Season. But I have been to Phnom Penh many times during March and it always seems busy to me. Surely the rains don't arrive till late May. Just a technicality.Most Hotels that divide between high and low season declare "High Season" November to March.

Member #4589
07-08-15, 00:44
So this is my first time to PP, 3rd time to SEA. Last time I was in BKK & KL for some weeks and had a ball. This time I'll be in PP for sometime and unlike those other SEA cities, PP isn't the best for the P4P market, especially when it comes to variety.

Long story short, while I do enjoy Khmer women, I'm not one for the skinny type. I prefer fuller ladies with round butts (I. E. Latina or African ladies). From what I encountered in other SEA cities, African girls seem to roam these parts pretty well. BKK probably has the best supply of African ladies (especially around Sukhumvit Road) and KL is respectable as well. PP, not so much. I've checked out a good number of bars as well as HOD and Pontoon. No Luck, albeit I haven't checked out Do It All club on a Friday night (that is supposed to be the premier Afro-Caribbean scene). Again, I know PP isn't the big draw in SEA but any guide to where I should look or any info on where to find African ladies would be nice.

Mozam.

AskeAske
07-08-15, 09:06
So this is my first time to PP, 3rd time to SEA. Last time I was in BKK & KL for some weeks and had a ball. This time I'll be in PP for sometime and unlike those other SEA cities, PP isn't the best for the P4P market, especially when it comes to variety.

Long story short, while I do enjoy Khmer women, I'm not one for the skinny type. I prefer fuller ladies with round butts (I. E. Latina or African ladies). From what I encountered in other SEA cities, African girls seem to roam these parts pretty well. BKK probably has the best supply of African ladies (especially around Sukhumvit Road) and KL is respectable as well. PP, not so much. I've checked out a good number of bars as well as HOD and Pontoon. No Luck, albeit I haven't checked out Do It All club on a Friday night (that is supposed to be the premier Afro-Caribbean scene). Again, I know PP isn't the big draw in SEA but any guide to where I should look or any info on where to find African ladies would be nice.

Mozam.You can find African Ladies in Africa, not in Phnom Penh.

Member #4589
07-08-15, 12:02
You can find African Ladies in Africa, not in Phnom Penh.Most definitely AskAske. But for the time being I'm not in any African country. I understand that there are pockets of African ladies in SEA, and I'd like to know where the ones in PP are. I'm all for variety.

Kniom
07-08-15, 13:58
You can find African Ladies in Africa, not in Phnom Penh.As far as I know there is one African Lady and you can find her in PP. Lovely body but slim.

Member #4589
07-09-15, 02:50
As far as I know there is one African Lady and you can find her in PP. Lovely body but slim.Kniom,

I actually believe I know who you are talking about. She's got a slim body, round but small bubble butt and some large breasts for her body. Correct me if I'm wrong. I saw her at Pontoon a few nights ago.

Member #4589
07-09-15, 03:00
As far as I know there is one African Lady and you can find her in PP. Lovely body but slim.If this is the lady I have in mind she is quite nice visually from what I've seen but I do prefer better endowed women, I'm a sucker for a big booty. Like a really big booty.

Member #4589
07-09-15, 12:19
As far as I know there is one African Lady and you can find her in PP. Lovely body but slim.Kniom,

I do believe I know the girl you are talking about. She's slim, small booty, pretty big rack for her frame, petite. I saw her at Pontoon a few nights back. Not bad. I prefer the thicker ladies with the huge booties however. I know that's going to be tough to find.

Rstoff
07-09-15, 18:53
I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.

Rstoff
07-09-15, 23:31
I would also like to ask Aske Aske (I value your option). If a Hostess leaves the Bar of her own freewill with no explanation to the Bar owner, lets say in the Low season May. Can she return to the same Bar in the High season lets say November and continue her employment in the same Bar with no penalties. Or doe's the Bar owner say NO you owe $10 Bar fine for every day you where absent?. Will she have to find work in another Bar and explain why she left her last employer. Sorry for being naive but this is all new to me.

SportMongr
07-10-15, 05:01
I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.Best advice, try your best not to be embarrassed and coy when asking the important questions. That alone indicates to the girl you are a push over and perhaps can lead to getting the starfish service. I too feel a bit awkward with those questions. ,but they are a must unless you like bad surprises. I just try to ask with a sort of friendly joking and smiley attitude. If possible I try to ask in a private setting. Or even better get real close to them like telling them a secret in their ear and making it romantic;) it's all in how you ask. Do it in a friendly and loving way. Like "you are so sweet etc. I want to have a great time with you," pull in close for a peck on the check and ask directly in ear, I love BJ,is that something you can do for me?" In your gentle man voice. In that same voice. Are you a 3 holes? Sometimes that is too coy. They don't understand. So in your sweetest voice In Her ear. You have a beautiful body do you F ass?. It's all how you approach, don't be shy. You would not be shy ordering food at a restaurant. And if you don't ask you don't get. It's like public speaking. Just dabble the more you do. The less uneasy it becomes. Understand this is the game. You can't play it coy silent and embarrassed. If so you will lose. That's all. Enjoy!

SportMongr
07-10-15, 05:25
After hearing many nice stories about PP etc. I arrived yesterday. Was expecting good stuff. Had a beer at scores bar and asked a local living here for 10 yrs. Where to go. Sorry I do not have much time to research on this site,barely enough time to post and read the latest few posts. His advice. With a smile "tons of bars" first go to street 51, more bars on 136 the best "my type" are on 104.

So I followed his plan, started at like 10:30 pm. Had a beer at Shanghai. Many average ladies there I did not get into any talks with them. Headed to Pontoon which is a disco. Hardly anyone in there. As I was leaving a few decent ladies were walking up but seemed to have a big hip-hop club style attitude as they walked in.

Went to 104. Now it's 11:30. 1st stop is rose bud pop in. It's dark many girls good music nice vibe. But didn't see anyone that caught my eye as special. Walked out and to the left was a younger lady spinner type. So she got me talking. $10 bar fine. I believe quoted me $50 for short time. And her friend inisisted that I need to get her and I a beer. I did the math. That is around $65 for St with in Cambodia (this girl had a baby too) I asked. That factors in. To the net worth;).

Checked out a few other bars. All average ladies. The ones that were above average seemed to be hardened and not the sweet types I have heard were down here. And that I go for. To me $60-80 for a hardened vet in Cambodia seems like a bad deal. So, I saw a nice looking lady. She obviously a bit older 30 's. Mama as well, but pretty. Said $40? I was a bit tired. So forking over over 50 for a mild did not excite me.

Fella's. Local's is this it? Did I head out too late? Is Cambodia land of the expensive hardened milfs? Or are these ladies overcarching me with thie $40-50 quotes. ? The $10 barfine seems legit.

Any advice greatly welcomed. I have 3 more nights to make this a good experience and not a waste. Happy hunting!

Uncle Volodya
07-10-15, 06:13
After hearing many nice stories about PP etc. I arrived yesterday. Was expecting good stuff. Had a beer at scores bar and asked a local living here for 10 yrs. Where to go. Sorry I do not have much time to research on this site,barely enough time to post and read the latest few posts. His advice. With a smile "tons of bars" first go to street 51, more bars on 136 the best "my type" are on 104.

So I followed his plan, started at like 10:30 pm. Had a beer at Shanghai. Many average ladies there I did not get into any talks with them. Headed to Pontoon which is a disco. Hardly anyone in there. As I was leaving a few decent ladies were walking up but seemed to have a big hip-hop club style attitude as they walked in.

Went to 104. Now it's 11:30. 1st stop is rose bud pop in. It's dark many girls good music nice vibe. But didn't see anyone that caught my eye as special. Walked out and to the left was a younger lady spinner type. So she got me talking. $10 bar fine. I believe quoted me $50 for short time. And her friend inisisted that I need to get her and I a beer. I did the math. That is around $65 for St with in Cambodia (this girl had a baby too) I asked. That factors in. To the net worth;).

Checked out a few other bars. All average ladies. The ones that were above average seemed to be hardened and not the sweet types I have heard were down here. And that I go for. To me $60-80 for a hardened vet in Cambodia seems like a bad deal. So, I saw a nice looking lady. She obviously a bit older 30 's. Mama as well, but pretty. Said $40? I was a bit tired. So forking over over 50 for a mild did not excite me.

Fella's. Local's is this it? Did I head out too late? Is Cambodia land of the expensive hardened milfs? Or are these ladies overcarching me with thie $40-50 quotes. ? The $10 barfine seems legit.

Any advice greatly welcomed. I have 3 more nights to make this a good experience and not a waste. Happy hunting!Thanks for the post. This is not good news as I plan to spend a few days myself there next month. Please keep posting your experiences.

Good hunting!

Uncle-V.

Forever69
07-10-15, 10:47
Fella's. Local's is this it? Did I head out too late? Is Cambodia land of the expensive hardened milfs? Or are these ladies overcarching me with thie $40-50 quotes. ? The $10 barfine seems legit.

Any advice greatly welcomed. I have 3 more nights to make this a good experience and not a waste. Happy hunting!I have been there several times this year and had some 10 $ girls many 15's and some 20's. That is where I draw the line. 20 $ st. I have great expectations too. BBBJ. Nice face- slim body. Very slim. Nice personality. 7.5 to 8.5. mostly between 20 and 35 year old. I find more than I can do. But no bar fines, only streetwalkers or freelancers. Like myself, always self employed my whole life.

When going to the different places timing is of the essence. Pontoon after midnight. Walkabout late afternoon. Days / evenings at Sorya mall or around what Phnom etc. Go to walkabout for example and find out from one of the expats there, you know the old western guys swilling beer. They will be happy to fill you in. I like the white cobra bar next to hod on 51st, ask the owner there, Pancho. Nice girls there too, no BF. .

If you have a ST now it can easily turn into LT since there are no prospects at the moment. This is also the time when many girls like to sleep in your room for free. No free sex though. But cheap. I give my girl 20 us every morning. For that I get her undivided attention. Almost, I have to say. Not sure what she does when I go through the bars. And again, performance has nothing to do with how much you pay. La Cyrcee, if you want to pay premium for guaranteed service. 40. - happy hunting.

IllusionHeart
07-10-15, 18:09
Thanks for the post. This is not good news as I plan to spend a few days myself there next month. Please keep posting your experiences.

Good hunting!

Uncle-V.

Indeed not good news Uncle V. I am booked for mid August to PP. Decided to visit over Pattaya and AC. Hope i wont regret.

If you are joining in then am sure trip will become interesting and we can both go hunting for girls across the city.

Fast Eddie 48
07-10-15, 23:29
Indeed not good news Uncle V. I am booked for mid August to PP. Decided to visit over Pattaya and AC. Hope i wont regret.

If you are joining in then am sure trip will become interesting and we can both go hunting for girls across the city.To Illusionheart.

That is why I have not be back since 2008 too expensive now you are better off go to AC, there is no reason to come back to this shit hole of a country to bang a girl for 50 usd st.

Fast eddie 48.

Kniom
07-11-15, 02:43
to bang a girl for 50 usd st.I agree with Islandboy 54.50 $ for ST is ridiculous. I was in PP during April / May and paid between 20 and 25 $ without negotiations.

SportMongr
07-11-15, 04:03
I have been there several times this year and had some 10 $ girls many 15's and some 20's. That is where I draw the line. 20 $ st. I have great expectations too. BBBJ. Nice face- slim body. Very slim. Nice personality. 7.5 to 8.5. mostly between 20 and 35 year old. I find more than I can do. But no bar fines, only streetwalkers or freelancers. Like myself, always self employed my whole life.

When going to the different places timing is of the essence. Pontoon after midnight. Walkabout late afternoon. Days / evenings at Sorya mall or around what Phnom etc. Go to walkabout for example and find out from one of the expats there, you know the old western guys swilling beer. They will be happy to fill you in. I like the white cobra bar next to hod on 51st, ask the owner there, Pancho. Nice girls there too, no BF. .

If you have a ST now it can easily turn into LT since there are no prospects at the moment. This is also the time when many girls like to sleep in your room for free. No free sex though. But cheap. I give my girl 20 us every morning. For that I get her undivided attention. Almost, I have to say. Not sure what she does when I go through the bars. And again, performance has nothing to do with how much you pay. La Cyrcee, if you want to pay premium for guaranteed service. 40. - happy hunting.Good info, thanks:) I checked out Pontoon bar fri. Last night. Arrived at like 1:30 am. The entire 51st. Scene Different from Thursday. At 10-11 pm. Yes, timing is everything. I found pontoon to be like a junior high party, " I remember when I had my first beer" lots of people. All acting super cool. Many westerner- backpacker. Vacationers mixed in. Guys on dates. Or just guys. Few "available" single ladies. The ones that are. Are shaded in the darkness, not looking worth the effort in such a loud chaotic silly environment. Ugh. I guess it might be ok if you are 25 and under and need to relive the days you turned 21.

Spent many hrs. On 104 in Rosebar getting smashed. By far the only place on 104 worth sticking around in. The lady DJ. Ie you tube song finder let my friend choose the music all night. So we ended up there A long time. A few nice lookers. All seemed to wear black dresses. 1 cute girl I liked gave me a nasty attitude as she was sitting next to me. " I'm on Facebook" as I tried to show interest. She ended up getting hammered I. The night as well. And never left the bar. She was not drinking only cokes. Most of the ladies have pro like attitudes. Did not want to explain to me the black dress phenomenon. I assume it means. I do not go or I need extra $ because I am a slight level above. Of course the uglies very friendly. And like 2 girls that were slightly above average. Let me know directly they were interested to leave. But no go. Did not want a 10 barfine, and negocios from 40-50. Plus my Johnson stops working after 6-7 beers.

After 104 on 51 stumbled into a massage parlor. $15 30 minutes. Shady and dirty. I was mentally preparing myself to be robbed as took the massage and was left in the room above and out of site. Luckily I only had like $30 left. So it would not have been a big deal. I had found out trying to hide my $50 bill in my sock. That I must have paid the rosebar tab of $23 with $20 and a $50 thinking I was leaving a $2 tip. With a 20 and a 5. Agh the price you pay for drinking to much. Didn't finish my massage. Had drank way too much beer.

In all PP interesting place. So far a bit too obscure, random, minimal, run of the mill. For my liking.

SportMongr
07-11-15, 05:48
After. Reading some posts on vietnam my next destination. And recovering from my fog. I realized I was robbed. Luckily not by force, but a sneak attack from the shady massage parlor. As I stated before. This was a shady operation. A tuck tuck driver told me FS massage and it so happened to be right across from pontoon club. A few girls sitting out in front at a table. And a strange white and light up cafe 999 sign, I remember. Room open air entrance to the building behind them. I got bad vibes from the start. The door shuts. And I have to talk my way out. But dude insists. Choose girl, massage. My mistake. Asking how much. $15 " too good to, be true, " But I'm a newbie. Didn't realize the scam. I thought. This is very shady, I want to leave. ,but $15. So what the hell? I hope I can walk out of here uninjured.

When I enter the upstairs massage rooms. Girl insists that I undress and that I hang my clothes on the rack right next to the door. I know better, decline and fold up my pants and place them to the left of the bed. Thinking that I had a better eye on it there. Stupid thinking. I should have placed my pants right on the bed! I want to get right into the service. Girl is adamant about having me flip, over on my stomach to massage my neck etc. I agree. And since I have had drinks relax close my eyes and enjoy the massage. At some point she does the wacky wacky claps on your back. Probably the time when the little guy crawling on the floor going into my wallet lifted. For sure a $50 bill, probably at least 1-2 20's. And left me with 3 10 dollar bills and some Cambodian $. I call quits with the girl and she immediately storms out. At that point I got cock in hand and think. Uh oh, I'm about to get robbed. Had a sense someone was about to come in. So I went to grab my at least my $50'to hide in my sock. And I would give them the rest. At that point I realized I only had 30 bucks. WTF? At the time I was drunk, had not done the math or even thought about the parlor. As I walk out. I see no one. No, see you next time. Come again. ,did you enjoy. At the time I was just happy to walk out but was wondering what happened to my $50 bill. Now I did a bit of math. Before the night started had changed a $100. Had a $50. Spent $25 at rose bar.

Point of story is just to warn all about the parlor across from pontoon. And all others for that matter. I did have a few drinks but I was in no way out of my mind. I added up all my drinks at rosebar in my head ranged from lady drinks 3. 25 to my drinks 2. 50. Arrived at $23 before the lady with the calculator gave me the total. I most like like gave her $25 correct. The reason why I know I was robbed is because they took more than the $50 in the parlor. LOL, greedy bastards. If they only took the 50 I would have thought a mental error.

A very small small price to pay. But I hope this helps someone. And it is a good lesson learned for me. I am just happy I was only carrying that amount. Sometimes I accidently end up with more in my wallet. Carry as little cash as you need. Rule # 2 or #3 I suppose. Anyhow. Chuck those assholes! I am going back for a $ 15 massage and I will bring in a Cambodian dollar and write gargle on my balls on it and lay it in my wallet for them to take and read. I'm a bit angered I got duped. Not really with the loss of $.

Blanquiceleste
07-11-15, 06:08
I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.Interesting approach, worth trying. But I still believe the time test "interview" never fails. Take your time to talk to the lady and make sure you get a vibe going. If the chemistry ain't there, then there's no fun in the sack. Specially if you are bringing her back to your hotel room. Massage parlors are a different story. You take a look, hang on a smile and go all in. Its always a 50:50 chance that you get a lousy girl with more attitude than skills.

IllusionHeart
07-11-15, 15:32
To Illusionheart.

That is why I have not be back since 2008 too expensive now you are better off go to AC, there is no reason to come back to this shit hole of a country to bang a girl for 50 usd st.

Fast eddie 48.Thanks Eddie, your advice has always been great, really appreciate. I have trips lined up in October and December, plan to visit LOS and PH in those trips.

I just wanted to experience Cambodia once hence decided on this visit. By the look of it I hope I don't return only with images and thoughts of Angkor wat.

I am also not too sure on creating a backup plan (Snooky). If PP is not upto expectations snooky surely won't be better either.

I will continue to keep reading the FRs in the meantime.

Thanks mate.

AskeAske
07-11-15, 15:57
After.

A very small small price to pay. But I hope this helps someone. And it is a good lesson learned for me. I am just happy I was only carrying that amount. Sometimes I accidently end up with more in my wallet. Carry as little cash as you need. Rule # 2 or #3 I suppose. Anyhow. Chuck those assholes! I am going back for a $ 15 massage and I will bring in a Cambodian dollar and write gargle on my balls on it and lay it in my wallet for them to take and read. I'm a bit angered I got duped. Not really with the loss of $.Hello Sport.

Many other have tried this. I had the same experience first time in PP. Never thrust a tuctuc-driver you don't know.

Here is from my report:

"I asked a tuktuk driver for a place with massage and bumbum. He drove me to a fishbowl with very young Vietnamese girls. I chose the one that seemed to be 18 years. Paid $ 25 upfront (stupid me).

She started the massage. It seemed a little strange and noisy lot. It was to her pimp could open the door and list in and steal my bag with money, passports etc. (stupid me). Fortunately I discovered him and got out of bed and after him and my bag. He dropped the bag and ran away. I went back to the room. Shortly after we started bombom. Very bad experience. She only wanted the missionaries, no BJ, etc. The $ 25 was lost and I went of without shoot. She was maybe trafficing girls. I will never go to a similar place. ".

And here is the answer from GooberMonger:

"Aske, sorry about your mishap. Your lucky you got your stuff back. A little advice when your out mongering; don't carry your passport, get photocopies made of it and your Visa and carry them as you will need them to rent a room in most cases. Don't carry your wallet and other I'd I. E. DL, birth certificate, SIN card. Don't wear any jewelry that you care about. Only carry enough cash that you can afford to lose or spend that day / night.

This doesn't just apply to Cambodia; it's a good rule of thumb for most countries. Even countries in Europe.

Happy mongering,

Cheers."

AskeAske
07-11-15, 16:01
I would also like to ask Aske Aske (I value your option). If a Hostess leaves the Bar of her own freewill with no explanation to the Bar owner, lets say in the Low season May. Can she return to the same Bar in the High season lets say November and continue her employment in the same Bar with no penalties. Or doe's the Bar owner say NO you owe $10 Bar fine for every day you where absent?. Will she have to find work in another Bar and explain why she left her last employer. Sorry for being naive but this is all new to me.Hi Rstoff.

In most bars the girl can leave and come back after some time. If she only leave for maybe two days with no explanation she owe the bar the BF.

AskeAske
07-11-15, 16:24
I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.I don't know why, but in Cambodia many girls are starfish. I have not spend much time in Thailand, so I don't know how it is there. In the Philiphine girls are much better. You ask the girls "are you a starfish". Brilliant. I will do that next time.

Rstoff
07-11-15, 18:49
I don't know why, but in Cambodia many girls are starfish. I have not spend much time in Thailand, so I don't know how it is there. In the Philiphine girls are much better. You ask the girls "are you a starfish". Brilliant. I will do that next time.Yes It worked well with me. 69 bar on Street 136 certainly lived up to it's name. I remember I BF a cute 23 year old from there in March and she was awesome. Never shy, just GFE all night for $60. Unfortunately it was my last night in PP, otherwise I would have had a 2nd helping. I was a little surprise when she understood the meaning of the word "Starfish". A lot of the younger girls did not. I also noticed if you dress well (I had shirt and loose tie most nights) the girls seem to go crazy for me. Just shows women appreciate someone who makes the effort no matter where they in the World.

Member #4589
07-12-15, 10:26
So I've been here for about 2 weeks and so far I will say PP is not the premier location for P4P, at least for black guys. If you are looking for great options and good service then BKK is the best in SEA. KL is probably next and then Manila.

My scenario: it had been a long night on town and I had a want to find a companion for the night. As mentioned in my earlier posts, I like big butts. Really big butts. But this isn't BKK or KL so for the most part I'll have to settle for a Khmer. Girl.

Night started out nice. Went out to a few regular bars just to juice up. Got down to Pontoon around 1:30 am when the club was fully ablaze. Started off well, danced and made some good convo. Then I went in for the kill.

I went to the bar and looked at girls who seemed interested. Found some decent looking girls but nothing with that wow factor. Finally spotted 2 ladies who were willing for a 3 some. Damage, 60 a piece. Not bad, not bad. We agree and head back to my place. From the moment I got back I knew I picked the wrong deal.

The girls were very picky about minute things. One would suck while the other one watched. They were very disengaged and when it got time for the actual sex, they would just watch one as the other one looked. There wasn't much by the way of mutual fondling or touching. The head was lackluster and they always wanted to wipe by Johnson every single time. To top it all off I could not stroke properly because they complained I'm too large. This is not the first time.

After about 15 min of BS I decided enough was enough. I paid them both and accepted the night for what it is.

So unless I'm find myself an African lady or an attractive Khmer girl that is good with her service, I think I'll stick to BKK and the other hot spots in SEA.

This is my personal experience, I know many guys that have had better.

By the way, what is a "starfish".

AskeAske
07-12-15, 18:22
By the way, what is a "starfish".A starfish is girl that has no talent or technique for sex. That is, she just lays there spreed out dead in the water, like a starfish.

Advantageous
07-14-15, 04:19
So I've been here for about 2 weeks and so far I will say PP is not the premier location for P4P, at least for black guys.As a black guy who will be visiting SR+PP in a little over a week from now, I'm curious by what you mean when you say this--is it because girls in general /9-10's don't take Black customers as proactively as they do White guys, or is it just that you don't think Khmers have the body type Black dudes stereo typically prefer (e. G. - Dominicanas)?

No tone on the internet, so it's worth noting I'm not saying this with any implied malice or spite towards your tastes (I like 'them thick too, but variety is the spice of life); I just would really like a head's up as to what I'm getting myself into, and a lead as to whether or not I should divert any of my PP / HCMC days to a KL side-trip.

Uncle Volodya
07-14-15, 13:35
Gentlemen:

I will be in PP for 3 nights in mid-August for 3 nights and I am looking for a hotel. I'd like something girl friendly, in the Riverside area and my budget is around $50 a night. Can anyone recommend a place?

I've RTFFed but there really isn't much hotel info here.

Many thanks and I will post my adventures (as always)!

Uncle V.

D Cups
07-14-15, 14:12
UV, I stayed at a place called BJ's House near the river in PP in 2012. Look it up on agoda. As I recall, it was inexpensive, clean, good staff and close to bars like Dream Bar and Rose Bar (where they use to have a busty one named Dina and maybe she is still there. Good luck.


Gentlemen:

I will be in PP for 3 nights in mid-August for 3 nights and I am looking for a hotel. I'd like something girl friendly, in the Riverside area and my budget is around $50 a night. Can anyone recommend a place?

I've RTFFed but there really isn't much hotel info here.

Many thanks and I will post my adventures (as always)!

Uncle V..

Member #4698
07-14-15, 14:25
Gentlemen:

I will be in PP for 3 nights in mid-August for 3 nights and I am looking for a hotel. I'd like something girl friendly, in the Riverside area and my budget is around $50 a night. Can anyone recommend a place?

Uncle V.Uncle V,

Check out the Riverside Suites. I just noticed that Agoda has a deal on the deluxe suite with a large riverside balcony for $67/ night. I have stayed at this hotel in this room and it is very good for the money. The hotel is girl friendly AND very secure.

You should also check out the Lux Riverside Hotel and Apartments. I have not stayed here, but a friend has and he highly recommends it. Rooms start on Agoda for $40/ night, but I would recommend upgrading to a one bedroom apartment for $53/ night. The Lux ain't fancy, but it is nice, friendly, and clean plus it is right in the heart of the action. But so is the Riverside Suites.

Have a great trip. I know you are going to enjoy Phom Penh.

NB.

Member #4589
07-14-15, 15:26
As a black guy who will be visiting SR+PP in a little over a week from now, I'm curious by what you mean when you say this--is it because girls in general /9-10's don't take Black customers as proactively as they do White guys, or is it just that you don't think Khmers have the body type Black dudes stereo typically prefer (e. G. - Dominicanas)?

No tone on the internet, so it's worth noting I'm not saying this with any implied malice or spite towards your tastes (I like 'them thick too, but variety is the spice of life); I just would really like a head's up as to what I'm getting myself into, and a lead as to whether or not I should divert any of my PP / HCMC days to a KL side-trip.Hey Advantageous,

I'm glad you're deciding to check out the PP area for your time down here. I'll use this time to clarify my statement.

So as a black guy (6'0 ft, in pretty good shape, still pretty young) , it's not so much that you won't score with Khmer girls, but just be prepared for an upsell in their services. I have a buddy who wingman with me sometimes (he's white, same physical stats as myself) and he pays 30% less for the same girls (we've both tested this numerous times at Pontoon). You will score no doubt, but you may have to go an extra mile, and you may not get as many of the outward "signs" of intent from the freelance girls. No lie, I had a situation where both of us went to a girlie bar and he got the attention and I got the attention from the lesser looking girls.

So a theory as to why this might be the case. Many of the black guys found in Phnom Penh and SEA for the matter of fact, are usually from Sub-Saharan Africa and have come here looking for better opportunities. Often time, those opportunities they hope for don't come as expected and these men are forced to "other" sources of income. It reflects negatively on them and from there the stereotype is born. Mind you, I'm from the states, but get clumped into the same category. Also, my friend told me that one of the girls that didn't want to come back with me was scared because she'd never been with a black guy and was "intimidated". I guess she's been watching too many pornos if you get my drift.

So I'll leave you with this. Still come to PP. Even with my hiccup I've still scored and no I can still score easily, just with a little more effort in comparison to BKK or KL (where the girls are a bit more "seasoned" PP has the charm of being easily navigable but still being large enough to explore. Obviously the market isn't has famed as BKK, Pattaya, Angeles City or KL, but it will do you plenty of fun (I have yet to encounter a street like Sukhumvit Road in BKK that has an abundance of Freelancers). Just follow this guide and hit the spots people talk about (51st, Pontoon, 136 etc).

Lastly, yes, I love them thick. I'm still looking forward to finding a girl of that frame. I will still look and I'm sure if / when I find. It will be well worth the wait.

Uncle Volodya
07-15-15, 05:52
Thanks for the tips Natty and the-Cups.

I think I may try Lux or one of the options next to it, LE Grand Mekong, River 108 Boutique Hotel or the Ohana Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if these two are Girl Friendly?

Thanks for the help!

Uncle-V.

Advantageous
07-15-15, 06:58
Hey Advantageous,

I'm glad you're deciding to check out the PP area for your time down here. I'll use this time to clarify my statement.

So as a black guy (6'0 ft, in pretty good shape, still pretty young) , it's not so much that you won't score with Khmer girls, but just be prepared for an upsell in their services. I have a buddy who wingman with me sometimes (he's white, same physical stats as myself) and he pays 30% less for the same girls (we've both tested this numerous times at Pontoon). You will score no doubt, but you may have to go an extra mile, and you may not get as many of the outward "signs" of intent from the freelance girls. No lie, I had a situation where both of us went to a girlie bar and he got the attention and I got the attention from the lesser looking girls.SNIPThanks for the handy primer! As a fellow Black guy (5'10, kinda-let-himself-go-after-becoming-a-vet-but-not-completely-fucked-yet, sub-30's) that's a bit of a relief to hear, seeing as PP is pretty much dead in-between my arrival airport of SR and my departure point to AC / intermediary stop, HCMC. I'm really interested in Pontoon based on all the TRs I've read--if you don't mind me asking, what were you averaging in there? I hope dressing half-decent and some spritzes of Jimmy Choo can help differentiate me from the average African castaway pimp lurking the back alleys of BKK, but I'm expecting my wallet to do 90-97.5% of the heavy lifting, depending on the girl.

Also, any chance you have experience in the area of Vietnam? I've noticed that I haven't been able to find a Black perspective on comparative rates and general reception from girls (at least not from someone who has openly disclosed their race in their description or story), and I'd be a little relieved to hear that moderate price bumps will be the most of my worries ("The locals are always getting it cheaper" is one of my mantras).

Card Boy
07-15-15, 14:07
Thanks for the tips Natty and the-Cups.

I think I may try Lux or one of the options next to it, LE Grand Mekong, River 108 Boutique Hotel or the Ohana Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if these two are Girl Friendly?

Thanks for the help!

Uncle-V.Hi Man,

Stayed already twice there. Girls no problem. Need to register the Girl and once she will leave you will be called by the receiption.

However Ohana is undergoing a Renovation Right now. Was there 3 weeks ago and the noise was totally disturbing.

Rstoff
07-15-15, 20:26
Hi guys,

I am sorry if this topic has already been discussed in previous posts, but I am new to the PP scene. And I am thinking of locating to PP one day (Maybe?). So I just wondered. Do PP ex pats ever take a Hostess from a bar, to go and live with them permanently? If so, what percentage do? I was thinking, maybe it makes economic sense to take a girl of your choice, away from the bar scene. I'm sure the girl would jump at the chance at least. Surely she would do everything a man asked of her. (Boom Boom on tap every night WOW). Then maybe just take her out on the town once a weekend. Or do you prefer your bar hopping Macho image too much.

Rstoff

Uncle Volodya
07-15-15, 20:39
Hi Man,

Stayed already twice there. Girls no problem. Need to register the Girl and once she will leave you will be called by the receiption.

However Ohana is undergoing a Renovation Right now. Was there 3 weeks ago and the noise was totally disturbing.Thanks for the heads up. I think I will avoid and call some of the other places to see if they are GF.

I hope I find enough good action to make some good posts for you guys.

Uncle-V.

BostonGuy
07-17-15, 05:17
Hello fellow Mongers,

In 2008 I had a great first-time experience in Thailand and Laos. Now I'm making my way to Cambodia in November. I'll have no problem finding an average girl for quick pump and dumps but I'm looking for kinky action. BDSM, Maledom, etc. Any other mongers in the Phnom Penh interested in bi action? Sometimes sitting back with a buddy, jerking off, while we watch a few girls go to town on each other is fun; or, watch each other go to town on our guest.

Looking forward to hearing from everyone. Happy hunting!

Uncle Volodya
07-17-15, 10:20
So I went ahead and booked an executive suite with riverview at this hotel. 168 US for 3 days, I think its a good deal.

I called the reception to check if they are GF and the guy laughed and said I could bring up to 2 "guests" at a time.

Works for me! LOL.

In any case, if anyone has a nightmare story about the hotel or thinks this is a bad idea please let me know. I can always cancel the booking.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

Scorchin
07-17-15, 10:41
Hi guys,

I am sorry if this topic has already been discussed in previous posts, but I am new to the PP scene. And I am thinking of locating to PP one day (Maybe?). So I just wondered. Do PP ex pats ever take a Hostess from a bar, to go and live with them permanently? If so, what percentage do? I was thinking, maybe it makes economic sense to take a girl of your choice, away from the bar scene. I'm sure the girl would jump at the chance at least. Surely she would do everything a man asked of her. (Boom Boom on tap every night WOW). Then maybe just take her out on the town once a weekend. Or do you prefer your bar hopping Macho image too much.

RstoffYou do not seem to recognise that any bar girl will welcome a chance to live with you. Plus her nuclear family, plus her extended family, plus her village friends, plus her sick cow and then payments for her grandmother's funeral, and repairs to her parent's car, house.......

All the time she will of course be milking three or four other suckers outside the country.

The problem comes when boy friend comes to PP and wants full time servicing.

Please wise up - "take her to on the town once a week" - to her old bar (where you will have a bar bill the like of which would buy you a apartment in NYC).

Member #4589
07-17-15, 13:49
Thanks for the handy primer! As a fellow Black guy (5'10, kinda-let-himself-go-after-becoming-a-vet-but-not-completely-fucked-yet, sub-30's) that's a bit of a relief to hear, seeing as PP is pretty much dead in-between my arrival airport of SR and my departure point to AC / intermediary stop, HCMC. I'm really interested in Pontoon based on all the TRs I've read--if you don't mind me asking, what were you averaging in there? I hope dressing half-decent and some spritzes of Jimmy Choo can help differentiate me from the average African castaway pimp lurking the back alleys of BKK, but I'm expecting my wallet to do 90-97.5% of the heavy lifting, depending on the girl.

Also, any chance you have experience in the area of Vietnam? I've noticed that I haven't been able to find a Black perspective on comparative rates and general reception from girls (at least not from someone who has openly disclosed their race in their description or story), and I'd be a little relieved to hear that moderate price bumps will be the most of my worries ("The locals are always getting it cheaper" is one of my mantras).Advantageous,

My apologies for the late reply.

You seem to get the drift pretty well, if you're wallet is doing the talking, you should be good.

As for pontoon. I've had 3 pickups from there, 1 great, 1 decent, 1 horrible (it was a poorly run 3-sum, I think I reviewed it earlier. 15 min in I told the girls to just leave). You should be able to score some 6-7's pretty easily in Pontoon. 8-9's may require bottle service and clear indication that you are a cut above the rest. Note: some hot girls you see in Pontoon are just regular Khmer girls that came to have fun. Not everyone is working, but even at that it's pretty easy to note who is working and who isn't.

I would actually recommend Cyree bar for pickups. I went there a few days ago and the service I got was phenomenal. 2 girls for 30 apiece, 5 for a room close by, 20 for the bar fine. Both girls gave the best head I've received so far in PP. They were actually into each other, and they "worked" me at the same time. Note: Cyree bar has (at least at the time I went) 10 girls working. So the girls where a bit aggressive. I suggest you go there and take your time with your selection. I slightly rushed without properly assessing the field.

As for Vietnam, I'm not to versed on that area. I'm actually planning to take a trip there in the coming weeks.

While I'm not too well versed in that area I do know this. HCMC's population is almost 11 x greater than that of PP, so I'd imagine there is a bigger scene. Additionally, HCMC is better developed so I can also imagine there will better amenities and such. You should have a good time in both cities.

Advantageous
07-18-15, 07:36
Advantageous,

My apologies for the late reply.

You seem to get the drift pretty well, if you're wallet is doing the talking, you should be good.

As for pontoon. I've had 3 pickups from there, 1 great, 1 decent, 1 horrible (it was a poorly run 3-sum, I think I reviewed it earlier. 15 min in I told the girls to just leave). You should be able to score some 6-7's pretty easily in Pontoon. 8-9's may require bottle service and clear indication that you are a cut above the rest. Note: some hot girls you see in Pontoon are just regular Khmer girls that came to have fun. Not everyone is working, but even at that it's pretty easy to note who is working and who isn't.

I would actually recommend Cyree bar for pickups. I went there a few days ago and the service I got was phenomenal. 2 girls for 30 apiece, 5 for a room close by, 20 for the bar fine. Both girls gave the best head I've received so far in PP. They were actually into each other, and they "worked" me at the same time. Note: Cyree bar has (at least at the time I went) 10 girls working. So the girls where a bit aggressive. I suggest you go there and take your time with your selection. I slightly rushed without properly assessing the field.SNIPThanks for the information on Cyree; got one more day of work and an intentionally boring weekend ahead of me before it's time to leave, but I can almost see the home stretch! If you don't mind me asking, did you happen to get the average price on bottle service at Pontoon?

Riverstar
07-18-15, 08:18
You do not seem to recognise that any bar girl will welcome a chance to live with you. Plus her nuclear family, plus her extended family, plus her village friends, plus her sick cow and then payments for her grandmother's funeral, and repairs to her parent's car, house.......

All the time she will of course be milking three or four other suckers outside the country.

The problem comes when boy friend comes to PP and wants full time servicing.

Please wise up - "take her to on the town once a week" - to her old bar (where you will have a bar bill the like of which would buy you a apartment in NYC).Don't tar every girl with the same brush. There are a number of reasons that girls drift into bar work a lot see it as a easy life, some do it as a necessity and some are persuaded to leave their job in a garment factory and follow a friend.

I met a girl who had just started work in a bar I used to visit and eight years later we are still together, I help out with her expenses including $160 per month for a simple apartment which I use on my regular visits to PP I also help her family with things such as a water pump and building a toilet to save them and me shitting in the fields. They have asked to borrow small amounts on occasions but have always repaid promptly but they have never asked for me to just give money.