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BSticks
10-25-16, 16:37
Hey vets,

After years of playing in the Philippines and the occasional Thai trip I have decided to do a quick 3 day weekend in PP. I've tried to keep an eye on this thread for the past year as Cambodia has always been interesting to me and apparently a cheap alternative to Pattaya. I do have a few quick questions that I am hoping vets can answer:

1) Any pay for play or areas of fun I should check out during the day time activities?

2) When I am at the airport, should I just keep USA currency or convert to local currency? This is probably the most important so I know how to deal with taxis / tuk tuks, tips, restaurants, etc.

3) Any advise on where the best freelance club would be? I'm only 29 and look way younger than that so I do want to try a night of bars and one night of clubs.

Major thanks ahead of time. Really-really pumped for this upcoming initial trip.

Titanio
10-25-16, 22:12
Where are the really, really pretty girls? I saw one at the Sun Moon. She was very beautiful. Will ask her to have dinner with us next time I see her. But I want to find lady boys but have yet to spot one. Any suggestions?

Otherwise this is a very cool place. I've seen lots of nice looking older white men though. Looking very happy and having fun!Some bars in Street 104 have them. They can be real fun in PP, just for a chat and a drink.

Banana Boi
10-26-16, 02:37
US currency is the main currency used in PP. All transactions done in US bills. You will get Cambodia money back as small change. Use that to pay your tuk tuks and tipping at restaurants if you feel the need to do so.

As for regular night clubs to pick up girls, why waste time unless you're trying to save $40 on a freebie. Hit 104,130, and 136 and you're good to go. You can add Darling Darling, Pontoon, and Cyrcee too. You'll have fun there. Please report back.

Red Kilt
10-26-16, 03:35
US currency is the main currency used in PP. All transactions done in US bills. You will get Cambodia money back as small change. Use that to pay your tuk tuks and tipping at restaurants if you feel the need to do so.I spent 3 weeks in PP in 2013 working, and I never saw any local currency. It was all small USD bills for tuk tuks etc.
In fact, I just checked my stash of left-over currencies that I bring back after various stints abroad, and I don't have an envelope of Cambodian money.

I paid every charge in USD, including my regular tuk tuk driver who used to wait for me outside my hotel.

Bring a pocket full of your small bills and hang on to them for all purchases.

Banana Boi
10-26-16, 07:31
I spent 3 weeks in PP in 2013 working, and I never saw any local currency. It was all small USD bills for tuk tuks etc. What happened when you went to a store, restaurant, or bar? They rounded up to the next US dollar?

NewImage
10-26-16, 08:50
I spent 3 weeks in PP in 2013 working, and I never saw any local currency. It was all small USD bills for tuk tuks etc.
In fact, I just checked my stash of left-over currencies that I bring back after various stints abroad, and I don't have an envelope of Cambodian money.

I paid every charge in USD, including my regular tuk tuk driver who used to wait for me outside my hotel.

Bring a pocket full of your small bills and hang on to them for all purchases.So if I'm coming from Australia to Cambodia is it best just to convert to US dollars when I arrive and not even worry about local currency.

I imagine like most asian countries better to exchange in Cambodia.

Red Kilt
10-26-16, 09:04
So if I'm coming from Australia to Cambodia is it best just to convert to US dollars when I arrive and not even worry about local currency.

I imagine like most asian countries better to exchange in Cambodia. Yes, but remember you need USD cash to pay for your visa on arrival.

Much better idea to go straight to a ATM after arrival, and the ATMs that I used dispensed USD. I stuck to ANZ (Australian bank) ATMs and tended to use them all the time, even though my cards are from HSBC Philippines. Rarely did I find one that didn't work, and you know thy are configured for international currencies.

Restaurant bills all had several options for payment (I think it was Thai baht, USD and, as I recall, Cambodian rial).

Make sure you know the respective forex rates so you can do quick computations in your head.

My recollection is hazy now, but I think I gave my friendly regular tuktuk driver 3 usd for whatever short trip we took. He was very "protective" of me and gave me lots of great advice, so I tended to look after him.

I remember I gave him 25 usd to take me to the Killing Fields (Cheung Ek) and Museum (Tuol Sleng) and wait for me. He was happy about that. I was distraught by what I experienced (easily the most distressing day of my visit to PP).

DingoD
10-26-16, 12:07
So if I'm coming from Australia to Cambodia is it best just to convert to US dollars when I arrive and not even worry about local currency.

I imagine like most asian countries better to exchange in Cambodia.Yeah if you have AUD it's easy to just exchange, I would recommend though avoiding really shitty rates at the airport exchange places and getting your taxi / tuk tuk driver to stop at anyone of the many jewellery shops around central maker for a much much better rate, like I am taking airport offering. 70 USD / AUD compared to 0.752 offered at said jewellery stores. This was 2 weeks back when official cash exchange was approx 0.7580, so depending how much you are changing definitely worth the slight trouble! Just ensure you at least have the $30 USD for visa and $7 USD /$12 USD also depending on your choice of tuk tuk or taxi.

Uncle Volodya
10-26-16, 17:41
I think almost all of the Khmer bar girls I have ben with wore a chain around their waist (gold colored and about the same thickness as the kind of chain girls wear around their necks).

Have you guys had the same experience?

Is it a Khmer thing?

AskeAske
10-26-16, 19:56
I think almost all of the Khmer bar girls I have ben with wore a chain around their waist (gold colored and about the same thickness as the kind of chain girls wear around their necks).

Have you guys had the same experience?

Is it a Khmer thing?It is a kmer thing. It is for for good fortune. Not many in real gold. To expensive. Can also be in silver, other metal or just in twine. Also "good" girl wear them. Many time they get them from their mother or another close female relative.

Lonely566
10-26-16, 21:56
I think almost all of the Khmer bar girls I have ben with wore a chain around their waist (gold colored and about the same thickness as the kind of chain girls wear around their necks).

Have you guys had the same experience?

Is it a Khmer thing?But they are beads and enhance fertility. I bought a bunch home a few years ago, and gave a few to my daughter. She now has five kids!

Uncle Volodya
10-26-16, 22:44
It is a kmer thing. It is for for good fortune. Not many in real gold. To expensive. Can also be in silver, other metal or just in twine. Also "good" girl wear them. Many time they get them from their mother or another close female relative.Thanks. I forgot to add that it is very sexy. Especially when the girl is wearing nothing else. Ooh la la.

Tonga1234
10-27-16, 08:27
Hello,

I stay around Russian market. Someone knows a place to have an happy massage around here?

Thanks in advance.

Tonga1234
10-27-16, 12:35
Is there a happy massage around Russian market? I mean only HJ you know.

BSticks
10-28-16, 17:23
Hey guys,

I got a really important question about Cambodia in regards to condom usage from hostess girls. I know if I'm in Pattaya, Thailand a significantly large percentage of gogo girls will require condom for boom boom and will usually carry backups in their purse in case you don't have one. Likewise, I know if I'm in Angeles, Philippines a condom is rarely required and bareback is preferred by many of the girls who rarely have spare condoms on them.

How are the girls in Cambodia in regards to this practice for boom boom as well as the casual BJ? P.S. I'm fully aware of the elevated HIV risks but I want to know exactly what the expectations most hostess girls are like before I get there.

Lonely566
10-28-16, 23:58
Is there a happy massage around Russian market? I mean only HJ you know.You just have to ask.

Banana Boi
10-29-16, 01:19
Bsticks,

Massage places around town appear to be the only daytime fun. You've likely jotted down a few names in reading this thread. If you find a good place let me know.

We just discussed the US money question.

Darling Darling inside the Naga World casino is a good place from 8 pm. Like Ipanema in Singapore but way prettier girls in DD. I never went but Pontoon is the night club to hit after hours, ala iBar/Insomnia in Pattaya.

As for the condom question, keep a few on hand of your desired brand. If your desire is to do BBFS, ask the girl in the bar before you barfine her. Many Khmer girls do not give BJ either CBJ or BBBJ and if they do it's very short. Some girls tell you they love giving BJ's as part of their sales pitch because they know so many don't do BJ's. Again, clarify with the girl.

If you've been to Pattaya you may be disappointed on how small PP is.

ButtLover
10-29-16, 08:17
Hi.

I heard that walkabout was closed! I really going to miss it for daytime action. Someone know were the girls are now? Has they moved to soraya shoppingmall? I am just intrested in daytime action.

BL.

CannonCam
10-29-16, 19:47
Hello guys,

I have been travelling since a month in Vietnam and been dry no FS here, have had chances if being looted.

I went thru the forum got to knw about few bars I have been to Pattaya so would like to know is the same scene like I bar.

Or there is some different way to approach.

As tired to get gals in vietnam my trying was not that successful.

Will appreciate some help from you all and my pm is active. If there is any direct contact it will be really helpful.

I know one should take efforts on his own but I am really frustrated with the scene in Vietnam & don't wish to take any wrong step any more.

Awaiting for positive reply.

Paulr1950
10-29-16, 21:01
Hi.

I heard that walkabout was closed! I really going to miss it for daytime action. Someone know were the girls are now? Has they moved to soraya shoppingmall? I am just intrested in daytime action.

BL.Ye its been closed for, maybe 4/5 months?? I think, ye I would have at a guess they all go to GSM now, or around there.

Lonely566
10-30-16, 01:38
It's right next to Sun Moon hotel. It was full of the most beautiful girls I ever saw anywhere in the world. I left scoreless but with a head full of eye candy. I don't know if it was a one off thing just for the grand opening but I intend to return tonight and find out. I will hit the ATM today to improve my looks. Pray for me to the vagina God.

Banana Boi
10-30-16, 04:35
Nice. I like Sweet Lemon. Can have some nice girls. Hopefully Sweet Lemon 2 isn't just moving the girls from Sweet Lemon 1. With a bar right there I wonder if Sun and Moon will become a girl friendly hotel.

GoodTimeTrvlr
10-30-16, 12:12
I spent 4 night in PP upon arrival and then 3 more after trip to SR and was definitely disappointed with the scene in both cities. Mostly because the services are extremely over priced, especially for the level of service. I tried the Wechatt option first which was a bunch of photoshopped pics and lady boys, even when searching "females only" in the filter. Upon questioning they'd admit to being LB and annoyingly ask "don't you want to try? No and you deserve to be poor for your annoying deception. Actual females were quoting everywere between $50-150 usd ST, Vegas prices IMHO. I passed.

Worked the cafes and streets for free lance action, and scored a 21 yo waitress for a GF experience for a few days but got sick of her attitude after a few days. Checked the bars on st 136, which had ample girls to select from, but once again, shouldn't we be paying less than $50/ HR in a country far more under developed than Thailand or the philppines? I passed as the philppines is on the itinerary in a week or so and the quality of service was questionable.

Got lucky my final night at Ostra bistro, not a girl bar, but regular pub next to them. Pure Khmer waitress was extremely friendly. I asked my drinking mates how it worked here as it's not a bar fine joint, nobody knew. Held court with her and her coworker who was totally hot and friendly, and got their fb, line, and wechat contacts and immediately started messaging both of them while they worked right there. Guy from France at my table asked the super hot one to go buy him a condom at the minimart and she emphatically refused and exclaimed "I'm not bar girl, I've never bought condom ever", so quickly realized neither of these waitresses were WG. The super hot one had to leave relatively soon after her shift, approx 2:30 am, but she did accept free drink from the same French guy, and hung with Us for an hour. Still chatting with her using Line app, and setting up GF experience for next trip as she wants to go to the islands with me next time, but we know those deals only pan out some times but worth keeping in touch as she is 23 and A material looks. Meanwhile, her coworker was also pure 23 yo Khmer with a rad body, big boobs, average face, but incredibly sweet attitude. She agreed to message me after work, which was going to be 3:30 am at this point. I had hotel two blocks down the street. Indeed she did message me, and got her to come to my room. Got her naked within minutes and she had amazing body, see cups with wonderful perky nipples, hour glass shaped body, firm round ass. She explained she had only one Cambodian BF '9 years ago, but he died'. She giggled and smiled a lot. She was very particular with how I could touch her, she only liked slow soft touching, but completely got her wet, pussy was super tight, and she confirmed no sex since first BF. She openly stated she wanted to 'have baby' with me to 'bring back to my homeland' and repeatedly pointed to my white skin and nose. I told her we just practice this time. She agreed, and began with DATY which she came hard just after 30 seconds or so, maybe her first orgasm ever. Used condom and got full service twice during her stay, very nice tight pussy, but had to do it 'her way' basically fuck her gently, no problem as this was confirmation she was regular Khmer girl and not a WG. Also tittie fucked her and taught her some BJ action. Both of us happy and satisfied. She stayed until 12 noon the following day, and gave her $8 usd for lunch which she was fine with. She also insisted on 'helping me pack' as I was checking out, but I sent her along after a few minutes. Of course lock up anything valuable, but she was not a thief, just truly curious young woman wanting her own exotic sexual experience. Me, I'm 50 yo but in great shape (told world wide I appear in my late 30's, good genes I guess, but I'm fit as that's what keeps my pecker up the best and don't want to die young like half my hs buddies) so luckily the GFE option worked out for me in PP. I only monger when I can be guarenteed good service at a decent price. So holding out for some threesome action in the philppines soon. I wouldn't go back to PP for mongering, Siem Reap was even worse, but only explored there one night. In Snookyville at the moment, and already met cheaper options, almost free, regular girls with sob stories looking for husbands and sugar daddies, so will report later.

I agree with many posts the prices guys are paying here are way too much, but mongers appear more decrepit here too, LOL. Sorry just my opinion.

Went for regular massage one day to and was offerred a hand job for "100 $" got up and left. They think we're ATM I guess. I live in Cali so I could go to Vegas for cheaper and better service IMHO. Trip is still been worthwhile for sparodic GFE experience so far, quit paying so much for lawd's sake.

Lonely566
10-31-16, 08:21
LMAO. Sweet, sweet man. Are you in 6th grade? These are overpriced working girls. Of course they want to have your baby. They want your money and that is all. But its OK to pretend but please use a condom. It's obvious these girls have seen more asses than a toilet seat. And if anyone is paying $50.00 your being taken. I know they have a short shelf life but I can't imagine paying more than $20.00. And for what your getting. (well I guess it depends more on what your not getting). I've had a few offer me a good time for much less. And I'm a woman. (unfortunately I'm not into girls). I see you guys everywhere I know your here for a good time. You cannot travel anywhere anymore without seeing sex tourists. And surely you are kidding about being the first boyfriend ever after her dead boyfriend? I've seen some nice looking men about but. I've met quite a few of you guys here. And have enjoyed talking to you. You deserve to have a nice time. A good bank for your buck (so to speak). But make no mistake they will steal, lie and do whatever to snag a man. Have fun but be real!

Banana Boi
11-01-16, 03:37
And if anyone is paying $50.00 your being taken. I know they have a short shelf life but I can't imagine paying more than $20.00. Curious to see if you're getting $20 ST for the top end bar girls on 104,130, and 136.

RacShack
11-01-16, 07:33
I spent 4 night in PP upon arrival and then 3 more after trip to SR and was definitely disappointed with the scene in both cities. Mostly because the services are extremely over priced, especially for the level of service. I tried the Wechatt option first which was a bunch of photoshopped pics and lady boys, even when searching "females only" in the filter. Upon questioning they'd admit to being LB and annoyingly ask "don't you want to try? No and you deserve to be poor for your annoying deception. Actual females were quoting everywere between $50-150 usd ST, Vegas prices IMHO. I passed.

Worked the cafes and streets for free lance action, and scored a 21 yo waitress for a GF experience for a few days but got sick of her attitude after a few days. Checked the bars on st 136, which had ample girls to select from, but once again, shouldn't we be paying less than $50/ HR in a country far more under developed than Thailand or the philppines? I passed as the philppines is on the itinerary in a week or so and the quality of service was questionable.

Got lucky my final night at Ostra bistro, not a girl bar, but regular pub next to them. Pure Khmer waitress was extremely friendly. I asked my drinking mates how it worked here as it's not a bar fine joint, nobody knew. Held court with her and her coworker who was totally hot and friendly, and got their fb, line, and wechat contacts and immediately started messaging both of them while they worked right there. Guy from France at my table asked the super hot one to go buy him a condom at the minimart and she emphatically refused and exclaimed "I'm not bar girl, I've never bought condom ever", so quickly realized neither of these waitresses were WG. The super hot one had to leave relatively soon after her shift, approx 2:30 am, but she did accept free drink from the same French guy, and hung with Us for an hour. Still chatting with her using Line app, and setting up GF experience for next trip as she wants to go to the islands with me next time, but we know those deals only pan out some times but worth keeping in touch as she is 23 and A material looks. Meanwhile, her coworker was also pure 23 yo Khmer with a rad body, big boobs, average face, but incredibly sweet attitude. She agreed to message me after work, which was going to be 3:30 am at this point..You keep referring to Vegas for 50-100 $ pussy, I've been numerous times and never seen or heard of these prices, please fill us "all" in, thanks for reporting on pp I hope I have a much better time while their, BB and U, V. Seem to have had a awesome time, I'm going to follow their reports! Still trying to figure out where to stay while their, I want location location location and prefer to have a pool, any and all suggestions?

Lonely566
11-02-16, 21:45
Curious to see if you're getting $20 ST for the top end bar girls on 104,130, and 136.I don't know what she's talking about. I told her to get her own account. Lonely.

Lolas
11-03-16, 03:35
A good place to stay in Phnom Phen is Queen wood Hotel. It's right across from Sun Moon. Has a rooftop bar. Restaurant (not so good).

Drinks are good and cheap as well. Balcony is a good place to watch the coming and goings. It's about $30.00 a night for 2 beds and couch. Girl friendly.

Lolas
11-03-16, 03:59
Prefer to have a pool, any and all suggestions?

Queen wood.

It's on 136th St. Has it all. Right across from Sun Moon.

Lolas
11-03-16, 04:24
Well, I've yet to see any really pretty girls. Not outside or inside the bars. A few are OK. But then I'm not looking for girls. But I talk to them while Lonely flirts. I think maybe because I look and smell good they may want to go with us and that's why they may be cheaper. I have seen some of them make faces and roll their eyes at some guys, I do the same face back at the girls and we laugh. And the guys end up going away alone. Most of them look dirty and drunk.

I think even the sad badly made up girls don't want to have some of these guys touch them. (I know I wouldn't even consider 75 percent of some of these guys I've seen). And I think what most men don't understand about women is that we don't judge men so much by their looks. Not like men judge women. I enjoy being around men who take as much care with their appearance as I do. I've always received lots of attention from men (much of it unwanted). I can't take credit for that it's genetics. And I'm a professional person who's worked around many "pretty" professional men. But was not attracted to most of them. So I guess if you want a top notch girl you should be a top notch guy.

I want Lonely to find really beautiful girls. Frankly I don't care what he pays for them. But I want to be at least a little jealous of them. LOL. Not feel sorry for them. And so far nada. What I want to find are those elusive lady boys I've heard about! I'm going for adventure here! I grew up in Huntington Beach California. The women there are beautiful and are everywhere you looked! I'm thinking were going to leave here and go somewhere else. Because so far I'm not impressed. But maybe I'm missing something?

Banana Boi
11-04-16, 07:18
I want Lonely to find really beautiful girls. How was Darling Darling for your search?

Banana Boi
11-04-16, 09:38
A good place to stay in Phnom Phen is Queen wood Hotel. Just read some Trip Advisor reviews and over and over again it says the rooms are dirty. Some guy even posted photos of bug bites he got. Rooms seem very tiny as well. My girls enjoy running around the room taking selfies. It's dirt cheap though. May consider it as an hourly room for a Cyrcee girl since it's almost the same price as the Cyrcee hourly room. A Darling Darling girl would cringe.

Lolas
11-04-16, 12:20
Well I'm very picky. But since Sun Moon was booked decided to stay there for a night or so until we could get a room. Our room was very large. No bugs.

So perhaps they changed something. Anyway I found it comfortable enough there. It's a shame they got a bad review. We're going to Darling Darling before then off to the coast. But I would definitively stay there again. LOL. I find it funny that ladies of the evening wouldn't stay there considering where they have been and who they have been with. Funny. That after that they would care about much of anything. Well I guess if they are husband hunting it's best to at least pretend you've a bit of class.

Banana Boi
11-06-16, 08:15
Interested in checking out an upscale KTV. Anyone have a suggestion of something good not to far from Riverside? How much can I expect to pay?

Arrived last night. Some bars were packed. Others only lonely girls. It wasn't consistent on the talent level either. I predict Sweet Lemon 2 is going to have a tough go in that location. no reason to walk up that way unless you're walking to Cyrcee. Not a fan of weekend nights here. My girls got barfined pretty quickly.

TesterTester
11-06-16, 11:31
Interested in checking out an upscale KTV. Anyone have a suggestion of something good not to far from Riverside? How much can I expect to pay?

Arrived last night. Some bars were packed. Others only lonely girls. It wasn't consistent on the talent level either. I predict Sweet Lemon 2 is going to have a tough go in that location. no reason to walk up that way unless you're walking to Cyrcee. Not a fan of weekend nights here. My girls got barfined pretty quickly.There are a ton of KTVs. There is one called Prince KTV on Monivong, near Mao Tse Teng. I have never been inside that one but my local friends take their overseas clients there. Should cost $100 for the girl if you take her out.

Banana Boi
11-06-16, 11:36
There are a ton of KTVs. There is one called Prince KTV on Monivong, near Mao Tse Teng. I have never been inside that one but my local friends take their overseas clients there. Should cost $100 for the girl if you take her out.Thanks. Just checked out their Facebook and not my type. I'm looking for top end DD quality girls.

TesterTester
11-06-16, 11:42
Thanks. Just checked out their Facebook and not my type. I'm looking for top end DD quality girls.Nearer riverside another higher end one is X2. Not far from riverside. Corner street 55 and 214. It's well known but maybe considered outdated. I went inside a few times a year ago. Pretty girls at the time. Not sure now.

Aussie Fella
11-07-16, 12:24
Meanwhile, her coworker was also pure 23 yo Khmer with a rad body, big boobs, average face, but incredibly sweet attitude. She agreed to message me after work, which was going to be 3:30 am at this point. I had hotel two blocks down the street. Indeed she did message me, and got her to come to my room. Got her naked within minutes and she had amazing body, see cups with wonderful perky nipples, hour glass shaped body, firm round ass. She explained she had only one Cambodian BF '9 years ago, but he died'. She giggled and smiled a lot. She was very particular with how I could touch her, she only liked slow soft touching, but completely got her wet, pussy was super tight, and she confirmed no sex since first BF. She openly stated she wanted to 'have baby' with me to 'bring back to my homeland' and repeatedly pointed to my white skin and nose. I told her we just practice this time. She agreed, and began with DATY which she came hard just after 30 seconds or so, maybe her first orgasm ever. Used condom and got full service twice during her stay, very nice tight pussy, but had to do it 'her way' basically fuck her gently, no problem as this was confirmation she was regular Khmer girl and not a WG. Also tittie fucked her and taught her some BJ action. Both of us happy and satisfied...I'm glad you had a good time with this chick but please tell me you're kidding. I know that mongers are experts at self-deception, but surely no 50 yo could possibly be this naive. She hasn't had a boyfriend or sex since she was 14 but hops into bed with you at the drop of a hat? She had her first orgasm ever after 30 seconds DATY? Come on man, enjoy the flattery these girls lay on but don't take it seriously; it's all an illusion and a bit of fun.

Aussie Fella
11-07-16, 12:37
Hey guys,

I got a really important question about Cambodia in regards to condom usage from hostess girls. I know if I'm in Pattaya, Thailand a significantly large percentage of gogo girls will require condom for boom boom and will usually carry backups in their purse in case you don't have one. Likewise, I know if I'm in Angeles, Philippines a condom is rarely required and bareback is preferred by many of the girls who rarely have spare condoms on them.

How are the girls in Cambodia in regards to this practice for boom boom as well as the casual BJ? P.S. I'm fully aware of the elevated HIV risks but I want to know exactly what the expectations most hostess girls are like before I get there.I've found girls demanding condoms vs not demanding them to be around 50/50. I always have good intentions and bring my own but don't always maintain discipline. Even in Pattaya I found there were plenty of girls who didn't demand condoms but, again, I tried to be disciplined.

Banana Boi
11-12-16, 03:28
For anyone lucky enough to be here this weekend (Sunday to Tuesday) during the Water Festival, take a walk along the riverside near the Royal Palace. All lit up. A beautiful site. Dragon boat races as well for those into that.

Banana Boi
11-12-16, 21:25
Cute girls everywhere tonight even on the side streets. Some nice ones in those big corner restaurants on 136. Went to "Same Same but Different" bar on 110 and some nice girls in there. Oddly one obvious ladyboy as well but no mistake the rest were cute girls in early 20's. Then hit "Pretty woman" on 110 and 2-3 very nice girls, one is likely the best I've seen in PP. Looks Korean / Japanese. Hit Cavalry bar on 136 more decent girls. Good time to be in PP. Not many guys either in the bars I visited other than my favorite bar which is always packed for good reason.

TesterTester
11-13-16, 01:47
Cute girls everywhere tonight even on the side streets. Some nice ones in those big corner restaurants on 136. Went to "Same Same but Different" bar on 110 and some nice girls in there. Oddly one obvious ladyboy as well but no mistake the rest were cute girls in early 20's. Then hit "Pretty woman" on 110 and 2-3 very nice girls, one is likely the best I've seen in PP. Looks Korean / Japanese. Hit Cavalry bar on 136 more decent girls. Good time to be in PP. Not many guys either in the bars I visited other than my favorite bar which is always packed for good reason.Which bar is your favorite bar which is always packed?

Butirka
11-13-16, 03:10
I am in Phnom Penh for the first time.

Its a interesting city.

I am not so into the sex thing, but I have a big fetish for hands.

Yesterday I went to Golden Sorya mall.

There was a freelancer who asked me if I wanted to come with her and I said yes.

We went to a room somewhere and she told me it would cost 30 dollar + room fee.

I asked her to wash her hands and told her that I only wanted to caress and kiss her hands.

After the session we went out to a café. She wanted a beer and I had an espresso.

She asked me for my phone number, but I told her I didn't had any.

She went away to bring a cellphone and asked again for my number.

I told her that I didn't had any phone.

Then she left and didn't come back haha.

Later that day I met a older women at the Boardwalk.

She asked me if I wanted massage.

I agreed, and we went away. She told me that it would cost 7 dollar.

I only had 50 dollar bills so I tried to change it in a store, but it was not possible.

I asked the women if she was hungry or thirsty. We went to a hotel, but they didn't had any food, so we bought some soda and sat down and talked for a couple of hours.

Later today I am going out and look fore some more.

Manfield04
11-13-16, 05:31
Good first report. Cambodians are generally nice people. Phnom Penh is a wonderful place to hang around. Very cheap by any standards. Good food. Transport also is easily available and cheap. Once, I hired a car for the whole day for just $50.00 and visited so many places around. Enjoy your trip and I'm sure you would want to come again.


I am in Phnom Penh for the first time. Its a interesting city. I am not so into the sex thing. Yesterday I went to Golden Sorya mall.

Kniom
11-14-16, 19:03
Good first report. Cambodians are generally nice people. Phnom Penh is a wonderful place to hang around. Very cheap by any standards. Good food. Transport also is easily available and cheap. Once, I hired a car for the whole day for just $50.00 and visited so many places around. Enjoy your trip and I'm sure you would want to come again.Just go to Lucky Supermarket. They accept even 100 $ bills.

Butirka
11-15-16, 15:16
Thank you.

I had a very nice stay here in PP.

Going home tomorrow.

I spent time with the older freelancer every day.

Rented her a room in a hotel somewhere and stayed there with her three hours per day.

We also went out and eat together.

I really enjoyed her company. She was more of a GFE then anything else.


Just go to Lucky Supermarket. They accept even 100 $ bills.

Manfield04
11-16-16, 02:50
I think you didn't read my post attentively or did not understand it at all. Why do I have to go to Lucky Supermarket? To change $100 bills. I can do it anywhere.


Just go to Lucky Supermarket. They accept even 100 $ bills.

Cordonier
11-17-16, 15:53
Is it possible to buy Viagra (or cialis) in Phnom Phen? In pharmacy?

Banana Boi
11-17-16, 23:22
I see them on display at family run mini marts in the hobbying areas like 136. There's one beside Sweet Lemon. $5 Kamagra, $8. 20 V, don't recall Cialis price. I didn't notice them at Panda, Smile, Kiwi Mart, etc.

Manfield04
11-18-16, 02:22
Is it unit price or for a pack of 4? Is it 100 MG? Could you please give some more details?


I see them on display at family run mini marts in the hobbying areas like 136. $8. 20 V.

Banana Boi
11-18-16, 04:17
Package of 4 100 MG tablets. Store beside Sweet Lemon bar on 136, across from Lux hotel.

Banana Boi
11-18-16, 11:32
Just completed another 12 night visit in PP. Talent level just a tad better than last month but I found myself sticking to the girls I had met previously. I find myself more attracted to the bars on Street 104 and 110 rather than the more populated streets 130 and 136. Because there are fewer customers the girls are more attentive to you. Overall for my taste I prefer the girl's looks on 104 and 110 as well. I will revisit again in a few weeks.

I wish the restaurants around this area were better. Any recommendations would be great for Japanese or good old American food. I find every night I need to take a $4 20 minute tuk tuk ride to Street 360 area to find cool restaurants.

Paolo99
11-18-16, 13:03
I wish the restaurants around this area were better. Any recommendations would be great for Japanese or good old American food. I find every night I need to take a $4 20 minute tuk tuk ride to Street 360 area to find cool restaurants.I also thought that eating in a good place late at night was an issue in PP. Don't know if you will consider this a good place but there's a small restaurant selling noodles on the riverside that close around midnight. From street 136 you have to walk on the left side for a few minutes. Their food is good, clean (went there many times and never had a problem) and relatively cheap (4-5 $). But it's not Japanese noodles, more like Chinese style foods.

Manfield04
11-18-16, 16:17
Thanks for sharing the information. It is better to buy it there rather than carry it through customs at the airport.


Package of 4 100 MG tablets. Store beside Sweet Lemon bar on 136, across from Lux hotel.

Cordonier
11-18-16, 16:23
Thank you for the answer. I will probably go to PP in January. As I feel tired (52 years too! Maybe I will try the Kamagra, to enjoy my stay.


I see them on display at family run mini marts in the hobbying areas like 136. There's one beside Sweet Lemon. $5 Kamagra, $8. 20 V, don't recall Cialis price. I didn't notice them at Panda, Smile, Kiwi Mart, etc.

Riverstar
11-19-16, 03:48
Thank you for the answer. I will probably go to PP in January. As I feel tired (52 years too! Maybe I will try the Kamagra, to enjoy my stay.A lot of what you can buy locally is fake better to buy from a reliable source even if it is more expensive in order to avoid disappointment.

Forever69
11-19-16, 07:54
Viagra under the name seagra is sold all around the central market ,4/100 MG for 1. 40 $. And in many regular pharmacies in other areas as well. Ask the locals, there is nothing fake about it.

Good food can be found in a variety of places on pop street, st 172. I find phnom penh has a nice choice of eateries reasonably priced. I also recommend the pink elephant happy pizza for the food. Near 178 by the river, beer at 50 cents a mug. When I stay I pnom penh I have a budget of 100 us a day which gets me really everything quite nicely including girls.

AskeAske
11-19-16, 16:50
Viagra under the name seagra is sold all around the central market ,4/100 MG for 1. 40 $. And in many regular pharmacies in other areas as well. Ask the locals, there is nothing fake about it.

Good food can be found in a variety of places on pop street, st 172. I find phnom penh has a nice choice of eateries reasonably priced. I also recommend the pink elephant happy pizza for the food. Near 178 by the river, beer at 50 cents a mug. When I stay I pnom penh I have a budget of 100 us a day which gets me really everything quite nicely including girls.Why do you guys buy this at the street? No reason for that. You can buy V in every pharmacy with no problems. You can buy the original Pfizer or another brand for cheap.

Manfield04
11-19-16, 18:58
Babana Boi suggested to buy V from store beside Sweet Lemon bar on 136, across from Lux hotel. Do you have any suggestions of a reliable source from where one can buy genuine V?


A lot of what you can buy locally is fake better to buy from a reliable source even if it is more expensive in order to avoid disappointment.

GreenBud
11-20-16, 06:03
- Pfizer produces sildenafil under the brand name Viagra.

- Indian companies have been producing sildenafil under names such as Zeagra, G-Force, etc. They seem to work. No reported health problems. There has been reports that those aren't as strong as the genuine Viagra; there has been reports of occasional duds. They are cheap. Zeagra (for a pack of four 100 MG tablets) ranges from around $1.50 (at Panda Mart) to $3.50 (at the mini-mart next to Sweet Lemon on St 136). Zeagra is "real" Zeagra. Note: Panda Mart (there's 1 about a block away from ST 136 at the Riverside) seems to have cheaper goods than the other mini-marts, from drinks to Zeagra.

- The Viagra packages you see at some of the min-marts (maybe around $8) are all fake. They are pirated with even the fake hologram mark on the package. They are the same as the ones you see on the streets of Bangkok and Angeles. But from reports, they do work, with the same caveats of strength and duds. Real Viagra is always more expensive. In Thailand, Pfizer reduced their prices due to competition from legal generic Sidegra that came into the market. But the prices are still 1000 something Baht (more than $30 for a pack of four 100 MG pills). Anything you see cheaper has to be fake.

- If you want genuine Viagra in Cambodia, I would be very leery. IMO, you can't trust 3rd world. For the best chances, I would go to some fancy pharmacy, maybe in a mall, where rich Cambodians go to. But if you want genuine Viagra, Bangkok would be a better bet if you go to a reliable pharmacy. Even then the question arises, why? Legal generic Sidegra is available at a retail price of 180 Baht for a pack of four 100 MG pills.

GreenBud
11-20-16, 06:29
- I like to recollect the old days, and yearn for it. Maybe I'm a sadist. LOL!

- In the old days, 25 was considered old for working girls. Many girls were of dubious age. Once I asked for an ID. She produced a piece of paper, which I couldn't read, which didn't have a picture. These days, you definitely don't have that problem. LOL!

- It seems many girls are old. Many are moms. You're lucky if you find one that is 25. In Le Crycee, a few of them are the same girls I saw 8 or 9 years ago.

- On another note, you see a lot more ladyboys on St 136 than the old days. Previously, only Candy Bar had them. Now more bars have some mixed in. I don't mind pure ladyboy bars. Some guys like them. People have a right to dress however they want to and fuck any adult in any position they want to. But ethically, IMO, it is almost like sexual assault if the bar/ladyboy doesn't tell the customer.

- Fuck Xanadu Bar! There is a chubby ladyboy who is very aggressive. I don't like to kissed or touched by faggots. Yes, that term is not PC, but IMO, a gay person who is trash should be called a faggot.

Manfield04
11-20-16, 06:42
Your report is very informative. Thanks very much for that. One question: How does anyone distinguish between the fake Viagra with the real one since both will have holograms? Is price the only consideration given that the holograms may look similar?


The Viagra packages you see at some of the mini -marts (maybe around $8) are all fake. They are pirated with even the fake hologram mark on the package. They are the same as the ones you see on the streets of Bangkok and Angeles. But from reports, they do work, with the same caveats of strength and duds. Real Viagra is always more expensive. In Thailand, Pfizer reduced their prices due to competition from legal generic Sidegra that came into the market. But the prices are still 1000 something Baht (more than $30 for a pack of four 100 MG pills). Anything you see cheaper has to be fake.

Banana Boi
11-20-16, 15:41
It seems many girls are old. Many are moms. You're lucky if you find one that is 25.I hang out with about 8 girls in PP and all but one is under 25. That one is 27 but looks as young as the others. Yes they are not easily found but they are there. Key is not to go to the bars that are often mentioned on ISG.

Forever69
11-20-16, 17:32
Why do you guys buy this at the street? No reason for that. You can buy V in every pharmacy with no problems. You can buy the original Pfizer or another brand for cheap.I buy everything on the street, food, viagra, pussy, beer, anything. Love it! Sleep in a room though.

I see girls from sorya mall dress up like cinderella and take motorbikes to darlin darlin.

I bought viagra a couple times in the us and then seagra in phnom penh, the only difference to me aside from the huge price difference is that seagra seems not as strong.it is never fake.

I take two. 70 cents. Thats my report.

Titanio
11-20-16, 23:10
Your report is very informative. Thanks very much for that. One question: How does anyone distinguish between the fake Viagra with the real one since both will have holograms? Is price the only consideration given that the holograms may look similar?On the corner of streets 108 and 13 there is a very reliable pharmacy that sells generics and originals. A little more pricey that the supermarket stuff but it works according to my own experience.

Logos
11-22-16, 20:24
Just completed another 12 night visit in PP. Talent level just a tad better than last month but I found myself sticking to the girls I had met previously. I find myself more attracted to the bars on Street 104 and 110 rather than the more populated streets 130 and 136. Because there are fewer customers the girls are more attentive to you. Overall for my taste I prefer the girl's looks on 104 and 110 as well. I will revisit again in a few weeks.

I wish the restaurants around this area were better. Any recommendations would be great for Japanese or good old American food. I find every night I need to take a $4 20 minute tuk tuk ride to Street 360 area to find cool restaurants.Best food on 104 is at the pickled parrot, middle of the street on the left when coming from the riverside. Their steak is pretty decent.

For general info on visas, hotels, getting around and such I'd recommend you check khmer440, it's a non mongering website with good intel for tourists and expats.

Manfield04
11-22-16, 20:36
Thanks for sharing the info. I'll report after I try it.


On the corner of streets 108 and 13 there is a very reliable pharmacy that sells generics and originals. A little more pricey that the supermarket stuff but it works according to my own experience.

Banana Boi
11-22-16, 21:45
I was told by my girls to try Pickled Parrot. I just assumed they were pointing at it for me to eat at so they could keep an eye on me. I will try it next time.

Thanks for the tip on khmer440. Will check it out tomorrow.

Banana Boi
11-30-16, 20:30
On the corner of streets 108 and 13 there is a very reliable pharmacy that sells generics and originals. If it's on 108 visited this pharmacy tonight. Viagra sold under the name Maxigra 4 x100 for $4.

Roaming Viking
12-02-16, 04:11
Gentlemen! I always used to stay at Flamingos right opposite Pontoon. But when I tried to book today planning ahead for my bi-annual visit to Cambodia my friend the manager confirmed that Flamingos will be closed for renovation for three months beginning today, December 1. He told me last summer they were going to do some work but I never imagined it would be this extensive.

So, I'd like to stay I the general area of Sorya Mall / Pontoon / Shanghai / Black Cat / and the now defunct Walkabout. I have dinner on Sisowath Quay (I love FCC) and drink in the bars down there, but I prefer to live uptown if you will. I always like to be close to Cyrcee. Marc is a great guy and always takes good care of me.

So, where am I to stay?? I am not a cheap Charlie but prefer to spend my money on P. As long as my accommodations are clean and safe. I am looking for $25-35 price range and maximum GF friendly.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

LifeIsABeach
12-02-16, 05:31
Gentlemen! I always used to stay at Flamingos right opposite Pontoon. But when I tried to book today planning ahead for my bi-annual visit to Cambodia my friend the manager confirmed that Flamingos will be closed for renovation for three months beginning today, December 1. He told me last summer they were going to do some work but I never imagined it would be this extensive. So, I'd like to stay I the general area of Sorya Mall / Pontoon / Shanghai / Black Cat / and the now defunct Walkabout. I have dinner on Sisowath Quay (I love FCC) and drink in the bars down there, but I prefer to live uptown if you will. I always like to be close to Cyrcee. Marc is a great guy and always takes good care of me. So, where am I to stay?? I am not a cheap Charlie but prefer to spend my money on P. As long as my accommodations are clean and safe. I am looking for $25-35 price range and maximum GF friendly. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks in advance.Have a look in this publication. I stayed at Circuit Hotel, now called NaNa Hotel a few years ago. It is cheap but rooms clean, safe and asian style shower. I had no issues. GF also. Breakfast included and just ok. For the price, nothing to complain. If you do not like the room, you can ask them for a better room for same price.

http://www.nanahotelpp.com/

http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/ppintro.htm

Pinche Gringo
12-02-16, 08:19
I always stay at A1 hotel. Far away from everything. Clean, with breakfast. Girl friendly as well.


Gentlemen! I always used to stay at Flamingos right opposite Pontoon. But when I tried to book today planning ahead for my bi-annual visit to Cambodia my friend the manager confirmed that Flamingos will be closed for renovation for three months beginning today, December 1. He told me last summer they were going to do some work but I never imagined it would be this extensive.

So, I'd like to stay I the general area of Sorya Mall / Pontoon / Shanghai / Black Cat / and the now defunct Walkabout. I have dinner on Sisowath Quay (I love FCC) and drink in the bars down there, but I prefer to live uptown if you will. I always like to be close to Cyrcee. Marc is a great guy and always takes good care of me.

So, where am I to stay?? I am not a cheap Charlie but prefer to spend my money on P. As long as my accommodations are clean and safe. I am looking for $25-35 price range and maximum GF friendly.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

Kniom
12-02-16, 12:14
Gentlemen! I always used to stay at Flamingos right opposite Pontoon. But when I tried to book today planning ahead for my bi-annual visit to Cambodia my friend the manager confirmed that Flamingos will be closed for renovation for three months beginning today, December 1. He told me last summer they were going to do some work but I never imagined it would be this extensive.

So, I'd like to stay I the general area of Sorya Mall / Pontoon / Shanghai / Black Cat / and the now defunct Walkabout. I have dinner on Sisowath Quay (I love FCC) and drink in the bars down there, but I prefer to live uptown if you will. I always like to be close to Cyrcee. Marc is a great guy and always takes good care of me.

So, where am I to stay?? I am not a cheap Charlie but prefer to spend my money on P. As long as my accommodations are clean and safe. I am looking for $25-35 price range and maximum GF friendly.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.I stayed at New Castle Guesthouse I many times. 100% GF, friendly staff and save. Due to the location some rooms are quite noisy.

Paulr1950
12-02-16, 20:56
I stay at blue tounge cafe all the time, rooms about 20/25, next door to where the walkabout was.

Banana Boi
12-03-16, 04:42
The bars on 136 were busy last night. Even at 8 pm the street was flooded with girls. Busiest I have seen it. By 2:30 am when bars were closing still girls everywhere excluding the ton of ladyboys around Candy.

Oddly Street 104, 110, and Street 130 seemed rather quiet in comparison. Visited a new bar for me Heartbreak bar on Street 118. Worth a visit. Some fun girls.

Roaming Viking
12-03-16, 06:36
I stayed at New Castle Guesthouse I many times. 100% GF, friendly staff and save. Due to the location some rooms are quite noisy.Thank you for all the posts. This is the kind of intell I appreciate. Is it safe? And do the rooms have wifi? I will be sure to try it out in December. Basically I just need a comfortable room and knowing that no one will steal from my room. Bringing in a lady or two for some fun and games is a must. No guest fee. In this respect Flamingo was great. I prefer to spend my money o other things. Thanks again.

Roaming Viking
12-03-16, 06:38
Thank you. I sure appreciate your post.

Cheers and happy mongering!!


Have a look in this publication. I stayed at Circuit Hotel, now called NaNa Hotel a few years ago. It is cheap but rooms clean, safe and asian style shower. I had no issues. GF also. Breakfast included and just ok. For the price, nothing to complain. If you do not like the room, you can ask them for a better room for same price.

http://www.nanahotelpp.com/

http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/ppintro.htm

LifeIsABeach
12-03-16, 08:20
Thank you. I sure appreciate your post. Cheers and happy mongering!!I meant safe in room to keep your valuables and also safe! Walk to your mall, right across the street.

CamboSoup
12-03-16, 09:52
Hello punters,

I arrived late last night (12/1/2016) because China Eastern airlines sucked. I checked into the Local Riverside Hotel because it was a good deal on Agoda but they locked their gate at midnight and I don't think it's guest friendly due to the sign they have on my room door. I had to ring the doorbell for them to let me in because it was well after midnight, and wake up the kid to let me roam the streets at 3 in the morning. They were happy to oblige but it seems like such a hassle. Anyway, I started my night at Mr. Butterfly Bar as LE Cyrcee was closed. This cute, skinny, little of a thing named Ah the followed me in and asked what I'd like to drink. I ordered an Angkor and thought I'd buy her one too. I'm Cambodian and I speak Khmer well enough to carry a conversation but needless to say, we were hitting it off. It was a very rowdy atmosphere inside the bar but everyone seemed to be in good spirits. Ah D's friend comes over and introduces herself and starts speaking English. Dope! It could never hurt to have a translator when you're unsure of words. I decide to buy her a drink as well and 2 more friends came over. They were decent looking girls but I just didn't want to have that feeling like they were trying to pull a fast one on me. I didn't buy them drinks but gave them both a couple dollars and they were fine with it. These girls were calling themselves the, "Us four and no more" crew and they were entertaining. It was fringing on 4 am and the girls will soon be off the clock. For some reason I didn't feel like smashing so we all wanted to and ended up at a KTV. It was pretty darn fun, and we sang our lungs out. We got a big old' water cooler of a beer tap, some sweet & spicy mango and an hour of karaoke. I didn't end up taking Ah the to my hotel since it wasn't GF but I still ended up having an awesome night.

Since I didn't hit that morning, I've always wanted to go to Massa. The fishbowl experience is something I've always wanted to experience and the closest thing that comes to it is where the bring out a line up of girls in a massage parlor in Tijuana. I arrived at noon and they were 3 ladies working and none to my liking so I told the Mamasan I'll be back when she has more girls. She informed me that more girls will be there in an hour, so if any of you guys decide to go 1 pm is a good time for selections. I have to admit that having all of the girls pining for your selection through a glass feels pretty good. I selected a 22 year old girl who's massage skills were lackluster but way better than the experiences I've had in Tijuana. We carried on conversations during the massage which I feel kills the mood, but I also wanted to establish some atmosphere and have both parties feel comfortable. It's always a plus to speak the same language but I'll admit there were times when I couldn't understand a single word she was saying. Anyway, long story short she gave her sales pitch and asked how much I'd be willing to offer. I told her 40 dollars as she was cute and we had a good vibe going. She didn't seemed to thrilled about my offer (and I had much more money in my wallet than that) so she started telling me about the 1 time someone gave her 100 dollars. I told her great, let's go get him! She realized she wasn't getting much more out of me and we proceeded with the deed. She did a good job kissing me in places like my nipples and around my junk but wouldn't give me a blowie because she didn't like it. We get it on and I blow my load (covered of course), and we showered together. It was a good experience to where I think I'd go back.

All in all good day of hunting so far. Looking forward to LE Cyrcee tonight and some dancing at Pontoon. I leave for Sihanoukville on Monday morning and Ah the is coming with me. Anyways be safe my brothers and also I've attached a picture of what the Massa building looks like as it was hard to find and explain to Tuk Tuk drivers when I was last here in May.

Forever69
12-03-16, 13:38
Thank you for all the posts. This is the kind of intell I appreciate. Is it safe? And do the rooms have wifi? I will be sure to try it out in December. Basically I just need a comfortable room and knowing that no one will steal from my room. Bringing in a lady or two for some fun and games is a must. No guest fee. In this respect Flamingo was great. I prefer to spend my money o other things. Thanks again.I stayed there too a few times but was stolen from out of the safe box in the lobby twice! No safe in the room. Beware. Very loud until 6 am! The staircase is also murder.

Axiata
12-04-16, 06:22
Spent a week in PP recently and sampled a lot of the bars. Rose bar was the most lively and had girls eager to drink and take my money. Did not take from there but managed to get some numbers for the next trip.

Went instead to a few other bars and took a familiar face from a bar on 136 street. Great GFE that lasted well into the afternoon which was great because there is not much to do in the day time.

Second night I went to Darlin Darlin. Usual high end bar with lots of well dressed girls but in truth, you will see them at Pontoon later anyway. Went to Pontoon which is by far the best place to pickup a freelancer of quality. Found a sweet thing that looked like she was out of her depth. Dressed well and I could tell from the way I touched her that she had a tight body. Took her back from a short time but got her number for next time. GFE and I will see her again.

The bars in PP can be hit and miss. Tried Candy Bar and Angry Birds to name a few. In the end went back to Rose Bar and grabbed one of the familiar faces. Not as good as the girl from Pontoon but maybe she set the bar too high, The girls from Rose Bar have seen some miles even though they are pretty.

PP is a fun place to party and take part in our hobby. Just got to find the gems which on this trip I managed to find one. She kept me busy for the next few nights.

Happy hunting.

Kniom
12-08-16, 19:40
I stayed there too a few times but was stolen from out of the safe box in the lobby twice! No safe in the room. Beware. Very loud until 6 am! The staircase is also murder.I've been staying there twice a year for around 5 years now. NEVER had a problem with lost stuff. Sometimes I even forgot to hide my tablet / camera / Khmer-Riels but when I came back the room was cleaned and I didn't miss anything. As said I have no experience with the lockers opposite the reception but a friend always use it and he never told me about lost things.

Banana Boi
12-10-16, 08:39
went to Darlin Darlin. Usual high end bar with lots of well dressed girls but in truth, you will see them at Pontoon later anyway. Are their prices lower at Pontoon?

RacShack
12-10-16, 09:15
I stayed there too a few times but was stolen from out of the safe box in the lobby twice! No safe in the room. Beware. Very loud until 6 am! The staircase is also murder.So you put your stuff back in their after being robbed the first time?

Axiata
12-11-16, 04:49
Are their prices lower at Pontoon?Banana Boi,

It depends on a few things. Time of night, if they already have had a customer and whether they actually like you. If it is late then a very good offer is $50 usd and see how that goes. I have offered that at around 3 am and they are OK with that especially if they like the hotel you are staying at. That said, there is as good if not better mix of girls at Pontoon at that time of night so the girls from Darlin Darlin have a lot of competition. Love Pontoon, just a great place to hook up with freelancers who are hot. My friend picked up a part timer a few weeks back and paid less than $30 usd for short time. She was very cute and a great body and face. Well worth it.

Happy hunting.

LifeIsABeach
12-11-16, 08:00
If it is late then a very good offer is $50 usd and see how that goes. I have offered that at around 3 am and they are OK with that especially if they like the hotel you are staying at. That said, there is as good if not better mix of girls at Pontoon at that time of night so the girls from Darlin Darlin have a lot of competition. Love Pontoon, just a great place to hook up with freelancers who are hot. My friend picked up a part timer a few weeks back and paid less than $30 usd for short time. She was very cute and a great body and face. Well worth it. Happy hunting.Paid usd $30.00 in Pontoon for LT many times. Some girls may ask for more if they sense your are a newbee but ignore them and also "It's up to you". They know what they are asking. LOL.

Manfield04
12-11-16, 08:21
Can you tell whether this information is a recent one? Because I met girls asking for US $ 30 for ST and US $ 50/60 for LT.


Paid usd $30.00 in Pontoon for LT many times.

AskeAske
12-11-16, 19:40
Can you tell whether this information is a recent one? Because I met girls asking for US $ 30 for ST and US $ 50/60 for LT.I paid 30 dollar most times. One time 35 dollar. Always LT.

LifeIsABeach
12-12-16, 07:58
Can you tell whether this information is a recent one? Because I met girls asking for US $ 30 for ST and US $ 50/60 for LT.As we well know, girls asking something and agreeing to something else is well known. Also, as I mentioned, If a girl senses a monger to be acting like a newbee, they are going to ask for a lot. A seasoned monger will bring them down to sanity dollar mark. A newbee may pay a lot for the same. Sometimes with these Cambodian girls, even if there agree to LT, they will try to leave after one shot. They'll come up with all kinds of stories and if you get fed up, just pay for the single shot about usd $10-15 and kick her out.

FeelBait
12-12-16, 09:45
Are you wondering what is going on with the sharp decline in the quality of 'available' women?

Let me tell you, because I saw it happen to a large degree in the Philippines over the course of a few years, and I see the same signs here.

The 8-10's have been systematically herded into upscale KTV's / Casino scenes, to cater to rich Asians on holiday, or his locals. This is because they pay $200 for 5 minutes of fucking, after consuming $500 worth of watered down drinks. They also have almost zero expectations of performance from the girls, so of course the girls are thrilled to have a few minutes of covered sex, and make enough to keep their family flush for a couple months. 1 rich Asian might spend as much as 20 (or more) white foreigners, gambling and everything included. The math is simple.

If you can somehow get yourself into one of these establishments (you had better look like a million bucks, and / or have rich local friends), you will see nothing but beautiful women. Not a single dog in sight, not even the waitresses.

Depending on your disposable income, you can attract a 'manager' that will invite you into the hiso P4P scene. Gambling and drinking away a few hundred dollars like it is nothing will catch the right eyes. Even better if you are willing to dump around $1000. Soon you will be surrounded by very friendly men who will offer you all sorts of material delights. Tell them you want 'the best women', and you will enter the circle. Again, you have to be dressed nicely. Dress like a rich Asian, and it will be no problem.

Now you may be wondering 'why would I want to get into the Cambodian hiso sex scene? Especially when the girls usually only beautiful starfish? The only real answer is curiosity, and a burning desire to understand how rich Asians destroy the type of scenes that western travelers used to flock to. You will also be a novelty, which could get you some genuine warmth from these hostess girls. Just don't expect them to speak much English.

I am not posting locations. "Upscale gambling" should provide enough of a starting point for those who are genuinely curious. Go and hang out, see how things work on the floor, and decide if 'buying in' is worth it to you or not.

Axiata
12-13-16, 00:36
Are you wondering what is going on with the sharp decline in the quality of 'available' women?

Let me tell you, because I saw it happen to a large degree in the Philippines over the course of a few years, and I see the same signs here.

The 8-10's have been systematically herded into upscale KTV's / Casino scenes, to cater to rich Asians on holiday, or his locals. This is because they pay $200 for 5 minutes of fucking, after consuming $500 worth of watered down drinks. They also have almost zero expectations of performance from the girls, so of course the girls are thrilled to have a few minutes of covered sex, and make enough to keep their family flush for a couple months. 1 rich Asian might spend as much as 20 (or more) white foreigners, gambling and everything included. The math is simple..Your observations are interesting. Having played in China for many years in the KTV scene I totally understand your views. We would spend a lot of money but generally the girls performed. I do not do KTVs anymore but see so many in PP these days that it makes sense the stunners would choose that over dive bars with drunken groping westerners. I know I would! I am back home for the Christmas break and recently was quoted $900 usd for two hours by an Asian call girl. So paying a few hundred is peanuts compared to that. It is all relative. I spend what I think the girl is worth. Good attitude, good body and good fun. Our asian friends are no different to us poor westerners. Pussy in Korea and Japan is very expensive. Places like Cambodia are bargain hunting grounds. It is inevitable that prices will rise.

Happy hunting.

Banana Boi
12-13-16, 06:12
Anyone been to any of the 15 or so KTV's on Street 118? There's a bunch up near Cyrcee too. Wondering what the girls are like inside and the prices. They look very run down from the exterior anyways.

One of my girls works at one of those high end KTV's being discussed, She is a very good singer. She is definitely in top 5 lookswise of all the girls found between 104 and 136.

Forever69
12-17-16, 12:12
Anyone been to any of the 15 or so KTV's on Street 118? There's a bunch up near Cyrcee too. Wondering what the girls are like inside and the prices. They look very run down from the exterior anyways.

One of my girls works at one of those high end KTV's being discussed, She is a very good singer. She is definitely in top 5 lookswise of all the girls found between 104 and 136.Why would you not step inside the KTV's you're interested in yourself, look at the girls and ask for the price since you are there anyway ? Don't forget to report afterwards.

Roaming Viking
12-18-16, 16:37
Hi all, I am back in town. Anyone who like a wing man up please PM me. I know the city well but for once thought I would some company.

Take care and enjoy this beautiful city with ll that it has to offer.

Cheers!

Roaming Viking
12-19-16, 15:34
Cheers fellows! Back in Phnom Penh again. I have been here so many times it feels like home. This afternoon, to get in the mood, I went for a nice massage at Mango Spa in 144 Street, adjacent to Sisowath Quay and around the corner from the outdoor market.

Today I sampled the second of two sisters, Mam. Her younger sister was great but is now at university. I am glad for her. Boy was she a cutie! At any rate, I had never been with her older sister, all of thirty-four years old, but I had a good time. She is quite pretty in her own right with large breasts that are surprisingly firm. At first, things went slowly but she soon let me roam and soon I had her jeans pulled half way down her legs and was licking her as I lay on the massage sideways bed with her standing next to me. It only took her a minute or so to climax, which was extraordinary. Her pussy lips were so puffy and nice and she was absolutely clean shaven with no noticeable stubb.

At first she said she does hotel but then after we got started and she saw what I could do to pleasure her, she said no. Boy friend of hers apparently does not like other men to molest his woman. Imagine that! So she obeys, scared of what she might do and like doing. But she asked for my hotel and room number, so we will see what happens later tonite. Anyway I liked my experience and tipped generously. Oil massage was $12 but I gave her $20. Maybe it will pay off and she come around my hotel? She is leaving this MP next week so hurry up guys. She is not sure where she will work next or if she will work.

They use to have massage in a big room upstairs but that has now been converted into a dorm for the girls. Massage rooms are downstairs and each bed has drapes around it. No other customer today so I was free to roam, but girl unwilling to go too far beyond the point of no return.

Her sister was far more compliant but was never there for take-out when I stopped by. I reported on her last year.

There was another very cute youngish thing outside when I left, Jenn? Really sexy, I mean, wow. But she said she does not go to hotel.

I had dinner at Sorya Mall, my usual haunt when I am mongering. I used to stay at Flamingo's but they are closed for repairs so now I am at Boli (y) na's not so "grand" hotel in 154 street next to Sorya. Okay for twenty bucks and totally GF friendly. We just marched in but the front desk did call afterwards to check that I was OK, but Flamingo was far better overall.

Anyway, this impish little twenty-something working girl with that cock-sucking look in her eyes hooked on to me as they always do at Sorya and wouldn't let go until I relented and took her back to my hotel. $10, she said, to eat her pussy, which I did with gusto, making her come in about 10 minutes. She let me take pics but wanted $10 for that too. Now for the killer: she wouldn't blow me for less than another ten or boom boom. So it could have gotten way too expensive. Yet she promised to blow, bragging how she would make me come in her mouth, but I guess I didn't make up a contract for her to sign. She was cute in a slutty sort of way with pert little boobies and a delectable, almost hairless little snatch, and squeaky clean. Overall the girl looked healthy or I never would have gone with her, nice teeth, no blemishes or signs of drug use. Otherwise some of the girls at Sorya are very jaded druggies and I never go. Her name is ARE if you are curious, but beware of her upsell tricks. Not bad but I hate negotiating for everything and finally told her to leave. I am saving myself up for Cyrcee later tonite. Report to follow.

Roaming Viking
12-20-16, 17:14
Greetings fellows! Last night I headed off to Cyrcee for a fishing expedition. The place is always jam packed with mostly cuties, who attack you like piranha when you enter. I found APPLE and took her to my hotel. I had already had one pop earlier in the day but felt like in the mood and had prepped with a large dose of K*. Several girls were groping a very happy junior in the bar so I didn't think twice. But back in the room was another matter. Now Apple is a gorgeous specimen of the female sex with the most perfect breasts I have ever laid my eyes on. High, firm, proudly standing straight out, well-defined light brown nips and quite a handful too. But I just couldn't get it up long enough to preform and she finished me with a quick hand job and splash over those fabulous tits. In part she kind of killed the mood the way some really pretty girls do, showering and washing my wedding tackle for an eternity until I just lost my focus. It is hard for me to maintain an erection and be spontaneous when she is staging every move. But I will say that she is very, very, pretty. Not an ounce of fat anywhere and tits to kill for. There were several other cuties as well but they all wanted to go to that short time dive across the street for another $10. The Frenchman wasn't there tonite. He does an awesome job and deserves credit. My girl from last year had left, however. Too bad. They never stay long. Tomorrow is another day.

Banana Boi
12-20-16, 22:52
I've been with Apple at Cyrcee. I had a great time with her. You have good taste, RV.

Never had a problem with a girl only wanting to stay at the ST motel. I stay at a nice place in Riverside so girls are more than happy to take a motorbike 3 minutes to the hotel.

Banana Boi
12-21-16, 14:07
FYI I thought I should clarify for anyone wanting to look for Apple. Her name is not really Apple but with her accent it sounds like she is saying Apple.

She's so cute can't wait to see her again. Tried to set up another ISG member with her but he surprisingly rejected her.

Roaming Viking
12-21-16, 17:17
Thanks for your post. You are perfectly right. Her name is probably not Apple. But her breasts are the size of ripe apples. Wow! Incredible. I will go back next week and hope to perform better.


FYI I thought I should clarify for anyone wanting to look for Apple. Her name is not really Apple but with her accent it sounds like she is saying Apple.

She's so cute can't wait to see her again. Tried to set up another ISG member with her but he surprisingly rejected her.

Simian
12-27-16, 06:46
Greetings fellows! Last night I headed off to Cyrcee for a fishing expedition. The place is always jam packed with mostly cuties, who attack you like piranha when you enter. I found APPLE and took her to my hotel. I had already had one pop earlier in the day but felt like in the mood and had prepped with a large dose of K*. Several girls were groping a very happy junior in the bar so I didn't think twice. But back in the room was another matter. Now Apple is a gorgeous specimen of the female sex with the most perfect breasts I have ever laid my eyes on. High, firm, proudly standing straight out, well-defined light brown nips and quite a handful too. But I just couldn't get it up long enough to preform and she finished me with a quick hand job and splash over those fabulous tits. In part she kind of killed the mood the way some really pretty girls do, showering and washing my wedding tackle for an eternity until I just lost my focus. It is hard for me to maintain an erection and be spontaneous when she is staging every move. But I will say that she is very, very, pretty. Not an ounce of fat anywhere and tits to kill for. There were several other cuties as well but they all wanted to go to that short time dive across the street for another $10. The Frenchman wasn't there tonite. He does an awesome job and deserves credit. My girl from last year had left, however. Too bad. They never stay long. Tomorrow is another day.So many things from years ago have disappeared from South East Asia but one that endures is LE Cyrcee. Probably the best lay I ever had in Cambodia came from that stable about 5 years ago. She looked like a dusky Asian from South America, nice tits, nice curve to her hips and wearing a red dress and reasonably tall for a local. Despite being a great looker and not a scar or blemish on her skin, she was also into the sex (or should have deserved an Oscar for her performance!

The only thing that has changed is that you used to be able to do the deed upstairs. Now you have to go to a nearby short-time place. But that is a small quibble.

AussieGuy100
01-09-17, 23:04
Hello,
1) The bars I would frequent- Honeypot, Loco, angry birds, Rose, LA cyrcee (for apple) . Would try to visit Xanadu bar, office bar, Airforce, Barbados (busty chick? Moepara (Jap theme),136 bar, Candy and butterfly (ogling at ladyboys, I swear just ogling. Just for laughs, no offense meant to anyone.). Can anybody please suggest hostess or hostess bars with thick / booby / nice ass WG's. And also the special ones who go above and beyond expectations in customer satisfaction. (Nudge! Nudge! Wink! Wink! You know what I mean). Please PM contacts.

NazgulYes street 130 is a good place to start. Both Angry Birds and Honeypot each have a couple of friendly, pretty girls with spectacular boobs who may be willing to display them in return for a couple of ladydrinks. In Angry Birds ask for Ah Ga, or Ah Tay. In Honeypot it's Ah Reem and Ah Net. Then head to 'Double D' bar in street 110 where as the name suggests, there are some well endowed girls who can be quite enthusiastic. Just watch for bill padding there if you're buying several ladydrinks.

Xpartan
01-13-17, 21:26
In Phnom Penh now, staying at Sun & Moon. Went to VIPP and Helicopter on 136th. Selection wasn't too big for Fri night. Liked a petite tiny thing by the name of Ailee or something at VIPP, bought 2 LDs, was quoted $70ST. Countered with $35, she went down to $50. I raised by a fiver, she wouldn't budge. Thought about BFing her anyway, but decided to go to more bars. Bid her farewell and went to Helicopter.

Ari was a little taller, and she was sweet. Bought her an LD and was quoted $50; Countered with $40, she wouldn't budge. Kind of liked her, and it was late anyway, so paid the BF and off we go. In the room, she's all shy, tits are almost non-existent, and she made huge eyes when asked for BJ, as if I put a fear of God into her. Sex was OK, although lacking any initiative, she did follow the directions, and got into multiple positions without a fuss. After that, she turned on the TV and we cuddled a little.

I'm thinking of starting a petition to ban push up bras. They are a crime against mankind.

Anyway, I wanted to shoot another one to get my money worth, and she would've obliged, but she was hungry, and, to be honest, I was tired too. So let her go, to her delight.

So far, I'm not overwhelmed. We'll see what tomorrow will bring.

To add some context to the story, though, I'm in my 50's and overweight. So YMMV.

And I've been out of commission for quite a long time. If you've got game, YMMV.

Although I don't know what kind of game that would require, since they barely speak a few words in English.

Prices for first-timers like me.

Sun & Moon hotel room: $75 without breakfast.

Breakfast buffet: $12. Didn't partake. Went to the barista coffee shop across the street.

Drinks, including lady drinks: $3-4. 50. Beers are cheaper, but I don't drink beer at night.

Bar fine: $10.

Sun and Moon:

1. Love the rooftop pool and the bar, especially at night. One of the top hotel pools for me.

2. Great location on 136th street.

3. Guest-friendly, but charges $10 if you book a single. Girls must leave their ID, and they call you when she leaves. IMHO, worth extra security.

One more thing. Perhaps, I am paranoid, but when I was done, she immediately took off my condom and went to throw it out. The layout of the room is such that the sink and the trashcan are separated by the curtain. I went immediately after her, and she moved to the bathroom. I thought I got fucked, but after she left, found the condom wrapped in a tissue inside the can. Again, don't know if I thwarted her evil plans, or if I'm just paranoid. I probably am, because the girl was pretty sweet, didn't really look like a shark. But FWIW. Better be safe.

Hope it helps.

I've read the last 10 or so pages, but if you, gents, have any tips, I'm all ears. I love them sweet and gentle, and don't mind them older as long as they look good.

P.S. Went to a massage parlor yesterday, the name escapes me right now, but it's across from the hotel and slightly behind if you look from the direction of the riverside. In any case, I think it's the only parlor on 136th that advertises $10 oil massage. Had Sraila (Average technique, but did a HJ for an extra $20. And they charge me $8 for the massage instead of $10, go figure.

Nazgylg15
01-14-17, 15:34
Yes street 130 is a good place to start. Both Angry Birds and Honeypot each have a couple of friendly, pretty girls with spectacular boobs who may be willing to display them in return for a couple of ladydrinks. In Angry Birds ask for Ah Ga, or Ah Tay. In Honeypot it's Ah Reem and Ah Net. Then head to 'Double D' bar in street 110 where as the name suggests, there are some well endowed girls who can be quite enthusiastic. Just watch for bill padding there if you're buying several ladydrinks.Wonderful information. I will update the forum with more info from my findings.

Paolo99
01-16-17, 17:50
One more thing. Perhaps, I am paranoid, but when I was done, she immediately took off my condom and went to throw it out. The layout of the room is such that the sink and the trashcan are separated by the curtain. I went immediately after her, and she moved to the bathroom. I thought I got fucked, but after she left, found the condom wrapped in a tissue inside the can. Again, don't know if I thwarted her evil plans, or if I'm just paranoid. I probably am, because the girl was pretty sweet, didn't really look like a shark. But FWIW. Better be safe.What could she possibly do with it? Take your sperm and put it in her pussy? And then what? Does she got your ID details or something like that? Otherwise I think you've been a little bit paranoid on that one, but the report was nice, thanks.

Xpartan
01-17-17, 13:41
What could she possibly do with it? Take your sperm and put it in her pussy? And then what? Does she got your ID details or something like that? Otherwise I think you've been a little bit paranoid on that one, but the report was nice, thanks.Exactly! That's why I said, "perhaps paranoid. " But far-fetched as it sounds, my hotel knows a lot of things about me, including my real name and my billing address. Is it too far-fetched to presume that she might've been able to convince an underpaid front-desk clerk share this info? Maybe it is, but there was something alarming about how quickly she pulled it off and jumped to the sink. Just saying.

Muzungufotsy
01-17-17, 14:13
Exactly! That's why I said, "perhaps paranoid. " But far-fetched as it sounds, my hotel knows a lot of things about me, including my real name and my billing address. Is it too far-fetched to presume that she might've been able to convince an underpaid front-desk clerk share this info? Maybe it is, but there was something alarming about how quickly she pulled it off and jumped to the sink. Just saying.Maybe she was paranoid about being pregnant. Maybe she had a broken condom inside before and she wants to be sure it doesn't happen again.

Dalia
01-17-17, 17:55
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Many thanks.

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AskeAske
01-21-17, 20:57
I don't understand why people complain so much over the bars in Phnom Penh. I stayed one night last week. I stayed at hotel in street 130. Visited some close by bars. Took a real spinner, very good body. LT 40 dollar. A little old but very good in bed. A real three holler.

There was many girls in the bars. Very easy to find what you want. All ages, all shapes. I love Phnom Penh.

Muzungufotsy
01-21-17, 21:07
I don't understand why people complain so much over the bars in Phnom Penh. I stayed one night last week. I stayed at hotel in street 130. Visited some close by bars. Took a real spinner, very good body. LT 40 dollar. A little old but very good in bed. A real three holler.

There was many girls in the bars. Very easy to find what you want. All ages, all shapes. I love Phnom Penh.A little old which means?

Member #4698
01-21-17, 21:07
I don't understand why people complain so much over the bars in Phnom Penh. I stayed one night last week. I stayed at hotel in street 130. Visited some close by bars. Took a real spinner, very good body. LT 40 dollar. A little old but very good in bed. A real three holler.

There was many girls in the bars. Very easy to find what you want. All ages, all shapes. I love Phnom Penh.I am looking forward to my return visit to Phnom Penh. I really like Khmer girls and their charming ways. It is just that things were so fucking fantastic here from the mid 90's all the way up to the bar raids in late 2009 that by comparison things have gone done hill very dramatically. It is still nice to come here and have a good time. You have to let the past be the past and live in the now.

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01-22-17, 18:01
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DingoD
01-23-17, 13:16
It is still nice to come here and have a good time. You have to let the past be the past and live in the now.So well put! Unfortunately too many people bang on about "the good old days" but they've now passed so we all have to find our fun in the environment that is PP monger world 2017! Been traveling to this great county since 2006, sure things have changed but it's still a place for fun if you are prepared to dig a bit! Back in late Feb for 3 weeks so I'm sure I'll have some great nights-anything new and exciting I'm sure to post a report for fellow punters to get some tips and enjoy!

Stay safe and have fun.

AskeAske
01-23-17, 14:23
So well put! Unfortunately too many people bang on about "the good old days" but they've now passed so we all have to find our fun in the environment that is PP monger world 2017! Been traveling to this great county since 2006, sure things have changed but it's still a place for fun if you are prepared to dig a bit! Back in late Feb for 3 weeks so I'm sure I'll have some great nights-anything new and exciting I'm sure to post a report for fellow punters to get some tips and enjoy!

Stay safe and have fun.Exactly, DingoD. Phnom Penh is a lot of fun. I prefer Phnom Penh from Bangkok. Much more relaxed. The girls are never dick scared. No girl say no to you and in the next second go with a Japanese guy. I know that it was even better before, but Bangkok was also better before.

If some one go to Phnom Penh first time, then read this tread back min. 1 year. There is a lot of information. Very easy to have a good time in Cambodia. For a monger very easy to have a good time in Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville.

Infedel
01-25-17, 00:57
First things first I have indeed RTFF multiple times. This is my first time in Cambodia so I wanted to be prepared.

Things did not get of to a great start for me tbh. Thought I established a connection with a massage girl at mango spa. She agreed to visit me that night. No hanky panky during the actual massage as there was another gentleman in the room also getting a massage. I'm guessing both of us left with blue balls. Unfortunately the silly girl didn't show up that night. Got a msg from her the next day that she fell asleep after work and forgot. To be fair I was fairly wiped as well so probably a good thing.

Second day in and I've got massage lady to agree to come tonight. Magic hour arrives and I get a call asking for directions. During this call the discussion turns to payment. Negotiations break down fairly quickly. She doesn't budge from $100 for LT and I don't budge from $60 because IMHO she wasn't that hot. Backup plan is to hit pontoon. Arrive and the club is doing well for a Tuesday. Interestingly, all 3 girls I interviewed also quoted $100 for LT. Tried every trick I could think of including waiting till it got closer to closing time. Managed to pick uo a cute petite thing for $80 LT. Get back to the hotel and do the deed. Quite enjoyable as I get a BBBJ and she does anal too (yay). Big minus in that she tries to bail after the first pop. Uh-uh. Not happening. Hold her to the LT and manage to squeeze in another pop around 6 am. Again she requests to leave after. By now am fed up and agree just to get her out of there.

I'm pretty sure I am making a few rookie errors here but nothing obvious IMHO. For reference I'm 30 and look younger, dress fairly well with a slightly chubby body shape. Comments and advice appreciated.

AskeAske
01-26-17, 13:47
Big minus in that she tries to bail after the first pop. Uh-uh. Not happening. Hold her to the LT and manage to squeeze in another pop around 6 am. Again she requests to leave after. By now am fed up and agree just to get her out of there.

I have only tried that a couble of times. I always let her go. I don't want to be with a woman, who don't want to stay. But I only pay 1/2 of what we agreed.

Infedel
01-26-17, 15:05
I have only tried that a couble of times. I always let her go. I don't want to be with a woman, who don't want to stay. But I only pay 1/2 of what we agreed.I considered that. But worried that if I insisted on only paying half it would trigger an argument. Didn't want that at 4 am in the morning. My hotel is in st 302 which is a bit further out from the bar areas. Caters more to actual tourists, couples etc. Although they were guest friendly I'm pretty sure mongers are not their target demographic for guests. And they had treated me very well so didn't want to make things difficult for the hotel staff.

Member #4698
01-26-17, 15:54
I'm pretty sure I am making a few rookie errors here but nothing obvious IMHO. For reference I'm 30 and look younger, dress fairly well with a slightly chubby body shape. Comments and advice appreciated.I never take a girl I have not had before LT unless LT is the default time as in AC or Subic. Thus, I strongly recommend that you arrange all your initial sessions as ST. Later after the 1st go round, if you and the girl are getting along and having a good time you can then invite her to stay all night or arrange a 2nd date with her for LT. This way you will have less invested going in and never have a runner or girl who wants to leave or be stuck with a girl you no longer want.

Remember, girls are like a box of assorted chocolates. You never know what you are going to get until you open the box and sample them. You may find you like some but you don't like others. Some girls do not wish to go LT, but agree to it to make the sale. Usually the girls I like and who I want to keep overnight feel the same way so the price is more user friendly too. But no one knows nothing until after the 1st shag.

Earlier in the night try the waterfront hostess bars. There are lots of bar recommendations here on the forum. Later, if you have not found what you are looking for or your ST has left, Ha Ha, head over to Pontoon. Keep the reports coming. You are doing ok. Things will get better.

MongerTron
01-27-17, 08:47
Hi all,

First of all thanks to everyone who has contributed to this forum, I've spent many hours reading with interest and appreciate people sharing their experiences.

I'm heading to pp on Saturday, staying in the Riverfront area for 4 days, then up to SR for 3 days and then finally back to PP for the last 4 days, staying near Street 51.

Haven't got many questions at the moment but very excited, I've been with lots of wg's before but only window girls in the Netherlands and Belgium. I'm not specifically after GFE but if it happens great, but I'm hoping for some LT and maybe even a threesome which is a yearning of mine.

I will give regular updates, my only question at the moment is:

If you BF a girl mid evening and agree LT are they more likely to want to scoot back to their employer after the first pop as opposed to a FL who isn't tied?

Natty Bumpo gave some wise advice to infidel just below so maybe St is the best course of action for starters.

Anyway thanks for reading any comments are welcome.

Forever69
01-27-17, 09:52
I never take a girl I have not had before LT unless LT is the default time as in AC or Subic. Thus, I strongly recommend that you arrange all your initial sessions as ST. Later after the 1st go round, if you and the girl are getting along and having a good time you can then invite her to stay all night or arrange a 2nd date with her for LT. This way you will have less invested going in and never have a runner or girl who wants to leave or be stuck with a girl you no longer want.
This cannot be repeated enough.

Also noteworthy in phnom penh is that viets usually do only ST while cambodians can be more cuddly and consider you a BF after the first time if things work out and get better on repeat. Ymmv however.

Another thing I did not understand is infidels remark of rtff-ing and then try to get a lay from a massage parlor in pp! This works in chiang mai or bkk, but pp's massage parlors with extras are all ripoff joints. His other statement that all the providers in pontoon quoted 100 tells me he asked them for the price which is also a mistake. This is asia, you tell women how much you give them, if you not just pay them later without negotiating. Do not ask them!

I had a viet just last week and gave her 15. - just to see the look on her face. I had her number from a bar without barfines. Then the next time I gave her 20 as she is beautiful, skinny,young,childless, very leggy and into ass play and well worth the 20. She thanked me with the same genuine smile both times and all I have to do now is to send her an sms to come running to my room.

Muzungufotsy
01-27-17, 10:09
This cannot be repeated enough.. His other statement that all the providers in pontoon quoted 100 tells me he asked them for the price which is also a mistake. This is asia, you tell women how much you give them, if you not just pay them later without negotiating. Do not ask them!Best advice ever.

If every guy on this board would follow it then we wouldn't have working girls quoting ridiculous prices.

Banana Boi
01-27-17, 12:12
Also noteworthy in phnom penh is that viets usually do only ST while cambodians can be more cuddly and consider you a BF after the first time if things work out and get better on repeat. Ymmv however.Can I ask you where all the Vietnamese girls are working? I've spent around 25 nights in PP in the past 6 months and I have only met 1 Vietnamese girl in the bars between 104 and 136.

Infedel
01-27-17, 12:55
This cannot be repeated enough.

Also noteworthy in phnom penh is that viets usually do only ST while cambodians can be more cuddly and consider you a BF after the first time if things work out and get better on repeat. Ymmv however.

Another thing I did not understand is infidels remark of rtff-ing and then try to get a lay from a massage parlor in pp! This works in chiang mai or bkk, but pp's massage parlors with extras are all ripoff joints. His other statement that all the providers in pontoon quoted 100 tells me he asked them for the price which is also a mistake. This is asia, you tell women how much you give them, if you not just pay them later without negotiating. Do not ask them!

I had a viet just last week and gave her 15. - just to see the look on her face. I had her number from a bar without barfines. Then the next time I gave her 20 as she is beautiful, skinny,young,childless, very leggy and into ass play and well worth the 20. She thanked me with the same genuine smile both times and all I have to do now is to send her an sms to come running to my room.In relation to the massage parlors. There is a recent post saying that someone got lucky at Mango spa. So I went to Mango spa to give it a go and to see if I could get the same result.

Re Pontoon, I got the same prices no matter whether I offered first or they started negotiations. To give a bit more context, 2 girls I would rate a 7 and the other was a 8 or 9. Also I was fairly tipsy at that time and unfortunately suffer from Asian flush so maybe they thought I was a sucker.

DingoD
01-27-17, 13:20
Can I ask you where all the Vietnamese girls are working? I've spent around 25 nights in PP in the past 6 months and I have only met 1 Vietnamese girl in the bars between 104 and 136.Try Golden Vine on St 108-large selection of girls and accounting for the Vietnamese owner generally more than half the staff are Viet dolls.

Enjoy!

Riverstar
01-27-17, 13:48
I have noticed that over the past year there have been some discussion about the availability and cost and of Viagra or its equivalent in Cambodia so here is a tip for all you UK based chaps. My NHS GP provides me with a private prescription for Sildenafil which is the generic version free of charge and although I only need 50 MG he prescribes 100 MG so I can cut a tablet in half as this is cost effective. He also suggested that I use a Tesco pharmacy as they are the cheapest and I have just picked up my latest supply which works out at 7 pence per 50 MG I. E 7 pence or about 10 US cents per pop and I have reassurance in knowing that I have the genuine article.

Dinghy
01-27-17, 15:57
I have noticed that over the past year there have been some discussion about the availability and cost and of Viagra or its equivalent in Cambodia so here is a tip for all you UK based chaps. My NHS GP provides me with a private prescription for Sildenafil which is the generic version free of charge and although I only need 50 MG he prescribes 100 MG so I can cut a tablet in half as this is cost effective. He also suggested that I use a Tesco pharmacy as they are the cheapest and I have just picked up my latest supply which works out at 7 pence per 50 MG I. E 7 pence or about 10 US cents per pop and I have reassurance in knowing that I have the genuine article.Based on previous experience, most of the viagra and the like are CHINESE copies. Including whatever hologram the 'real' package has, not the 'real' thing. Not even the Indian version. AND THE 'BLUE DEVILS' FROM China MIGHT AS WELL BE COMPRESSED CORN STARCH.

Opebo
01-27-17, 16:37
Based on previous experience, most of the viagra and the like are CHINESE copies. Including whatever hologram the 'real' package has, not the 'real' thing. Not even the Indian version. AND THE 'BLUE DEVILS' FROM China MIGHT AS WELL BE COMPRESSED CORN STARCH.I've been using some viagra-knock-offs a friend brought me from Phnom Phen, and even using only 1/4 of a 100 MG tab I'm redily enorm and rigus for two days. Ultra powerful stuff.

Bumholes1
01-28-17, 10:36
I've been using some viagra-knock-offs a friend brought me from Phnom Phen, and even using only 1/4 of a 100 MG tab I'm redily enorm and rigus for two days. Ultra powerful stuff.I buy mine in Siem Reap in a pharmacy near the market close to pub street $2 ,50 for a pack of 4 x 100 MG. Work well.

Aussie Fella
01-28-17, 11:48
Based on previous experience, most of the viagra and the like are CHINESE copies. Including whatever hologram the 'real' package has, not the 'real' thing. Not even the Indian version. AND THE 'BLUE DEVILS' FROM China MIGHT AS WELL BE COMPRESSED CORN STARCH.I tried buying some Kamagra Oral Jelly from a store on Victory Hill in Snooky (yeah, I know this is the PP forum but it may also be applicable here) and found it did absolutely nothing. I'd never had it before so didn't really know what to expect. I then continued my trip on over to Pattaya and bought some from a street vendor there which worked a treat. It was only when using that Jelly that I realized it had a completely different taste to the ones I'd bought in Snooky. Basically, the good Pattaya ones and a kind of medicine-why taste whereas the ones in Snooky were very sweet.

MongerTron
01-29-17, 19:56
Arrived this morning in PP, very tired after flying but unable to sleep due to a combination of jet-lag and excitement!

I'm staying on the Riverfront Street 136, a few nice looking girls around but I decided to go straight to Cyrees after such positive remarks from other mongers. I wasn't disappointed, 5 hotties clustered around me, I bought 4 of them a LD and spent about 45 minutes enjoying their attention. I narrowed my choice to 2 24 yr old, one was very slim which is my preference but the other was not only bustier but was trying harder to grab my attention. I got the waitress to draw lots and ended up picking the voluptuous one, promising the slim one I'd be back for her tomorrow. They both wanted to come along together but I'm building up to that.

In the ST room around the corner we showered each other and she had a killer curvy body, no fat, boobs were a tad saggy but still nice.

On the bed she launched into BBBJ with lots of ball licking and sacking. I swung her round for 69, tight little pussy neatly trimmed with no shaving.

She started getting going herself and was trembling about while her juices flowed, I could probably have made her come had I persevered but instead to get inside her tight hole. A good pounding missionary with her legs up in the air, then her on top squatting and then some doggy. She was fine with me playing with her ass, but I decided to flip her back over so I could enjoy her sweet face as I came. We showered again and that was that.

She wasn't in a rush, did whatever I wanted and was a perfect GFE in my opinion. We exchanged numbers and have arranged for her to visit my hotel for LT later in the week. I'll get slated for this but instead of giving her $30 which I'd mentally decided I was going to give, I gave her $40 instead.

Other costs:

4 lady drinks, 2 beers for me and BF= $29.

St room $7.

My prior mongering was in The Netherlands and Belgium, €40 to €50 for 20 odd minutes so this was my cheapest and most enjoyable so far.

Afterwards around midnight I fancied a bit of FL action, so got a tuc tuc to Street 51 with the intention of checking out pontoon, but I didn't and, well things didn't go swimmingly. I'll finish this day 1 report tomorrow after. Some sleep.

BierkeRid
01-30-17, 05:30
Due to a delayed flight I got one unplanned evening and night in PP. I'm 50, European, and far from athletic.

As usual, I scanned the forums and decided to stay close to the riverfront.

As the sun was about to set I decided to take an evening walk on the riverbank before heading to any massage place, bar or club. I found that the riverbank to be a perfect place to pick up a decent girl at a very competitive rate.

I met Lydia, a nice 21 year old girl living about an hour away from PP, with a face I would rate 4-5, but a body I can easily give a 9. She quoted $20 for ST and we went to have a bit of dinner before heading to my room. She was very active and wanted more right after the fist pop. Either she really enjoyed it, or I would rate her acting skills at a 10. Total spend $40, including the food and small tip.

After Lydia took a motorbike back home I headed out to visit some of the local lady bars. I visited several bars in the area, no names worth mentioning here, and bought one beer and one lady drink at each place. 7 places in total. Spent a total of $50 on that adventure. I learnt that $100 was the starting offer at all the clubs I visited, and rarely it was possible to bargain below $80. One time I got it down to $70. I left the area.

I got to Monsoon club at about 2-3 am. Still quite a few hotties, but only one exceptional. I talked to a few girls and they all started out at $100. Probably standard price here. I watched the one exceptional girl say no to so many men during this hour, so I decided not to ruin my mood by asking her. Spent $50 total again.

At closing time I headed out on the street to find a tuk back home. The exceptional girl from inside the club was sitting in one of the tuks. As I was a bit drunk and not really in the mood for going home, I asked her I she new any place to go at this late hours.

"Yes, there are a few 24 h bars, but your room is probably better as you're already drunk, let's go". I ended up with this exceptional recently divorced 22 yr girl for the rest of the night. No money discussed or exchanged. $3 for the tuk and $10 for extra guest in room.

DingoD
01-30-17, 13:26
Afterwards around midnight I fancied a bit of FL action, so got a tuc tuc to Street 51 with the intention of checking out pontoon, but I didn't and, well things didn't go swimmingly. I'll finish this day 1 report tomorrow after. Some sleep.LE Cyree never disappoints but this smells of a dodgy Golden Sorya Mall story in the making. We wait with baited breathe.

Eszpresszo
01-30-17, 15:10
Can I ask you where all the Vietnamese girls are working? I've spent around 25 nights in PP in the past 6 months and I have only met 1 Vietnamese girl in the bars between 104 and 136.Can I ask why people are even looking for Vietnamese girls? I just spent a year in a suburb where there is a large Vietnamese population. Half the people on my block. Their girls were very plain. Am I missing something?

There are other SE Asian people in the area, and I have noticed some striking Cambodian girls, but I guess there is the matter of personal taste.

Member #4698
01-30-17, 16:18
Can I ask why people are even looking for Vietnamese girls? I just spent a year in a suburb where there is a large Vietnamese population. Half the people on my block. Their girls were very plain. Am I missing something?

There are other SE Asian people in the area, and I have noticed some striking Cambodian girls, but I guess there is the matter of personal taste.Hear Hear! I have never done a Viet girl in Cambodia. I like Khmers. That is not to say I do not enjoy Vietnamese girls. I do. I have enjoyed a few in Singapore (Brix + Ipanema), HKG (Wanchai Bars), Macau (Familia Nobre), and one time in Jakarta (Alexis Hotel). But there is something unique and special that I find in Khmer girls that makes me want them and no one else in Khmer Land.

Goatscrot
01-30-17, 16:39
Hear Hear! I have never done a Viet girl in Cambodia. I like Khmers. That is not to say I do not enjoy Vietnamese girls. I do. I have enjoyed a few in Singapore (Brix + Ipanema), HKG (Wanchai Bars), Macau (Familia Nobre), and one time in Jakarta (Alexis Hotel). But there is something unique and special that I find in Khmer girls that makes me want them and no one else in Khmer Land.Interesting. I went to Cambo for Viets. Had some Khmers and was never impressed with then looks wise or performance wise. Stopped going to Cambo when most of the Viets disappeared in the mid 00's.

Goatscrot
01-30-17, 16:40
Can I ask why people are even looking for Vietnamese girls? I just spent a year in a suburb where there is a large Vietnamese population. Half the people on my block. Their girls were very plain. Am I missing something?

There are other SE Asian people in the area, and I have noticed some striking Cambodian girls, but I guess there is the matter of personal taste.Viets- White skin, slim bodies, Chinese features, nice breasts, and really fun and aggressive in the sack.

MongerTron
01-31-17, 00:21
DingoD is correct, I went to Golden Sorya Mall instead of Pontoon and played pool with a nice girl who worked at the sports bar there. The girls around the area weren't anything special, there were one or two good looking ones but many were frankly quite haggard.

I was about to go into Pontoon when a girl in her mid 20's approached, slim and good looking. I got her a drink in a streetside bar and looked her over; she was undoubtedly a natural beauty but seemed a little shifty, she wouldn't hold eye contact for long but I naively put it down to shyness.

She accepted my offer to come back to my hotel, we hailed a tuk tuk and I realised I'd forgotten to check if she had ID before getting in. Turns out she didn't, so as an alternative she offered to take me to a nearby ST location. My willy finally stopped making the decisions and I used her lack of ID to bin her off, I'd realised she was on something. I got the driver to go back to Sorya Mall but she wouldn't get out of the tuk tuk unless I gave her 10 dollars, I gave her $5 to get rid of her but with hindsight should have just given her a dollar.

The tuk tuk driver, obviously knowing I was looking for action, said he'd take me to some nice pussy. I declined, asking him to take me to 104 Street instead. He plodded along talking to me about how nice the girls are he could get me. I wasn't particularly interested, he got on his phone but was headed in the correct direction. Just before 104St he pulled into an unlit side street and a moped driven by a particularly unsavoury looking man pulled up with 2 girls on the back, both looked very young. The tuk tuk driver said they were 19, but neither could provide ID. No sooner had I declined the moped driver went off and in less than 1 minute was back with another 2, both I was told had ID and were 19. They were very pretty but neither looked that keen, I was beginning to get tired of these two men pushing for a deal and commented that the girls looked a bit forlorn. "I know what you want!" exclaimed the tuk tuk driver, and after a few words in Khmer the moped man went of yet again around the corner. He must have had a stack of girls in an alley or something because less than a minute later he was back with another girl who was admittedly very pretty and animated, her eyes were clear and she was very hot. I was told she was 21 and had ID.

I considered my options: They'd both done some running around for me (not that I'd asked them to do so) and had come up with a girl that was to my liking. I was in a dark unlit street with no foot or road traffic. The tuk tuk driver was amiable enough but only because he was in for some money. The moped driver however looked very shifty indeed and kept fiddling with something through his zipped up puffer jacket. A refusal at this point would have led to an escalation in my opinion, so I accepted I'd been railroaded and asked to see the girl's ID. The tuk tuk driver was offering LT for $80, he finally agreed $30ST and $5 for the driving around.

After being dropped back at the hotel and depositing her ID card with reception it was only in the room that I realised she didn't speak a word of English! She was jabbering away at me, obviously asking for money. I had to accept I'd been had by that bloody tuk tuk driver. I couldn't convey my intention to pay afterwards. Another $20 dollars lighter and we finally got down to business.

Her performance was adequate but to be honest I'd become worn out by all the bartering and just wanted to empty my balls into her. She refused BJ, we began in missionary and then she was flipped up on top, to her credit she was enthusiastic, her body was tight, small but nice neat tits and a lovely ass. I gave her a real pounding in doggy to finish and that was that.

Tons of takeaway points for my first day here, I'll report on day 2 when I can access a proper keyboard instead of a smart phone.

BierkeRid
01-31-17, 05:25
Went to Pontoon again yesterday around 2 am. Immediately got approached by an eager girl that offered ST at $80. She looked on and I was tired so I went for it. On the way back to hotel I found that she tried to steal some of my money out of my bag. I asked her to leave tuk tuk and went to hotel on my own. Be careful out there!

An hour or so later I went back again. It was now 4 am. I young slim girl was standing outside talking in her phone. I waited for her to finish the call and asked if she felt like going back with me instead of going inside again. She hesitated for a moment, almost looked chocked, but then she called her friend and said ok to me. She asked for $60 only but said she could only stay max one hour. When we got back to hotel and handed over her ID it turned it she just turned 18 two weeks ago. I would have guessed 20. She was so sweet and caring. A bit shy in the beginning but it went away. All of a sudden she changed her mind and asked if she could sleep in my arms all night. I did not say no. In the morning I found that the mattress had quite a few blood stains. I asked her if it was time for women's week, but she said it was because she was all new to sex. True or not I don't know, but honestly I don't care if she lied a bit after such a wonderful night! We had breakfast together before she went back to her parents home.

MongerTron
01-31-17, 13:33
I'm staying on St 136 and popped into the helicopter bar, had a game of pool with a very pretty girl and bought her a LD but she spoke practically no English and I found out from a girl serving at the bar that she wasn't bar fineable. They pointed out who was available to take away, but I passed and went up to St 104.

Apologies I can't remember the name of the place but it was about half way along the north side of the street. Anyway inside I was accosted by a bunch of sexy looking girls, but again I went for the prettiest young one who spoke barely any English. The mamasan was whispering into her ear training her up. This girl was 21 and scorching hot, so I paid the BF drinks bill which was $16 and we took a tuk tuk back to my hotel for $2. This girl was very shy, trying to disguise her nervousness by messing about and cracking jokes in Khmer which I couldn't understand. Finally got her on the bed after a shower and she was super tight, did several positions, she wasn't very flexible but did her best to accommodate. Gave her 30 and sent her away.

After a shower and a bit of food I went to Cyrees at about 11.30 pm. The thing about this place I've noticed both both my visits there is that tuc tuk tuk drivers don't know where it is. I've had to direct them on both occasions.

Once inside I took a seat and scoped out the talent, plenty there. It finally dawned on me that going for the youngest and prettiest has many drawbacks: They speak little or no English, are inexperienced and can be annoying in a teenager kind of way. A little slim one was making conversation and I asked her name. Apple. Well after people here saying how good she is I had to sample her myself. Over to the ST room and a shower where she gave my genitals the most thorough clean they'd ever had. Apple kept fiddling with her phone, I had to tell her off and she put it away. Good BBBJ and sex in several positions, she practically had her legs behind her neck as I pounded her and came.

Gave her $30.

My 2 girls per day target is on track however I might reduce that to 1 and spend some time with them to build up a bit of a rapport, so going FL seems the way forward.

Adee from Sunday rang me after we'd agreed Tuesday night and I think she's coming over to my hotel for LT, however the language barrier meant I can't be sure she knew what I was on about when I said my hotel needs her ID.

Will report back.

Member #4698
01-31-17, 19:57
Interesting. I went to Cambo for Viets. Had some Khmers and was never impressed with then looks wise or performance wise. Stopped going to Cambo when most of the Viets disappeared in the mid 00's.One of my all-time favorite Asian girls was a hostess girl I found in Rose bar back in the good old days. She had a pretty face (6. 5 conservatively speaking) and her tight little body was almost perfect to my spec (8. 7). LOL. Anyway, her price and time was "up to you" and she meant it. I always gave her $20 + a $5 tip knowing I was slightly over paying, but that I could not get a girl this nice for twice the price back in BKK.

We had a little routine: two drinks, kisses & fondling in the bar, then adjourn to my room, more kisses, soapy shower play time with a BJ in the shower, more fooling around on the bed, BJ's & DATY or 69, followed up with sex in 2 or 3 basic positions. Afterwards we would cuddle and kiss for a very short time before we would adjourn to the shower and start it up all over again. I usually repeated this routine 3 or 4 times with no more than a 10-minute cuddling break in between. Then I would let her go for the night. There was nothing real fancy or notably advanced about her service. It was just honest, good old fashioned, Khmer, girl next door, passionate love making and I loved it. Like I said, this girl is in my all-time hall of fame.

Today unfortunately, the Phnom Penh girls have learned from their Thai sisters and the internet to be bold and ask for real money so it is not as good here as it used to be, but I can still find what I am looking for usually after a 1st night /1st time get to know you sex when out of the blue the girl forgets all about her business plan and wants to be my temp GF for the rest of my visit. This is why I still like it here.

I know girl next door Khmer GFE is not what you are looking for and that you prefer more professional expertise and service. Sometimes I want that too which is why I go to certain BKK oilys and of course pay up large in various Macau Saunas. Finding quality good looking Khmer girls is not easy either. I reject over 90% of what is available and a significant number of the 10% acceptable ones do not barfine. I am just pointing out what I like here in Cambodia and that quality girls offering this style of sex are still on the menu in PP if one desires it. You just have to look around a little.

My last Khmer repeat girl liked to turn down the lights low so the shadows of palm trees played on the wall while she sang traditional Cambodian love songs softly in my ear as we laid together in each other's arms naked on the bed for half the night stopping only for a little tender sex now and then. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I enjoyed it. I initially picked her up in Darling Darling.

MongerTron
02-01-17, 11:54
The kid in a sweet shop feeling is still there, however resisting the urge to grab the nearest pretty one is becoming easier.

Popped back into the helicopter bar, there were several good looking girls and a few average ones. The 3 that latched onto me looked very young, 2 looked about 18 and the other about 22, which was initially disappointing because I'd set out to get a more mature girl, mid to late 20's.

They were asking for lady drinks, I'd arranged to meet Adee from Cyrees at 1 am and it was about 11:00, I was just killing time really and none of the girls jumped out at me, but I accepted their offer of a game of pool. During the game I confirmed they were all Bar Fineable and all had ID. Having confirmed the criteria for ST back at my hotel, all of 30 meters away, I agreed to a round of lady drinks.

At the pool table it was easier to check out their bodies; the two youngest were very slim and looked well endowed, but there could be clever bra technology going on there. The older girl had a nice small to medium sized rack, which was confirmed as genuine when she popped one out and started tweaking a nipple to try and distract me from my shot. The ball wasn't potted.

This girl was becoming likable. She was playful yet quite funny, knew enough English for us to get by and appreciated my rudimentary efforts at speaking Khmer. Also she was much more touchy feel than the other two, and from what I could garner from their conversations, had claimed me.

They were asking for more ladydrinks, I agreed to get my girl one and had one myself. We finished the game of pool and I told her to get ready for me to take her away to my hotel.

As she was putting on something more respectable I noted the good vibe in this place, the girls were all laughing and joking and it seemed quite homely. Bill including barfine was $31.

Back at the room we showered and I got to examine her properly. Medium pert tits, lovely ass and trimmed Bush with nice large labia.

On the bed she said "You boom boom me, not me boom boom you". I moved as if to enter her (she didn't seem to mind I wasn't wearing a condom yet) but instead started sucking her little pert tits, perfectly symmetrical and facing front like little soldiers. Then it was time to move down and suck on those lovely labia lips, which got a very positive reaction. She was bucking and writhing about so much it was difficult to hold her in position but perseverance paid off and she came, very vocally.

I lay back for a breather and she moved in for BBBJ, slow hard sucking which nearly made me come in her mouth there and then, but thankfully she stopped after a few minutes and lay back to receive.

Once the condom was on I finally got inside her, she was very tight and wet and I was again quickly close to coming, so kept switching positions to prolong the experience. My default finishing position over here seems to be missionary with her legs high and wide, preferably up around her ears. This allows me to stare down at myself entering their pussy, see their breasts bouncing about and look at those beautiful exotic Khmer faces all at the same time This time however I was mindful of her "You boom boom me I don't boom you" comment, so got her up on top to do some boom booming herself! She didn't have to work hard for long, by this point I was ready to explode!

A quick note about condoms. I brought along a dozen Durex elite and a dozen extra safe. The elite are thinner but less flexible and I've had a couple of instances of girls complaining it hurts (though this was the 2 young ones from days 1 and 2 who were very tight indeed), whereas the extra safe seem so much more supple and I've had no complaints. No condom I've ever used replicates bareback but the Durex extra safe is a comfortable experience for both parties in my opinion.

Quick shower together and then she wanted to go out for a drink, so took us to Corner 136. They play loud music running via YouTube and have girls dancing up on stage.

My girl knew a waitress there and just as I agreed to get her a drink too the girl who came off the podium also knew my girl so I ended up buying the round. Top marks to my girl for drumming up business for the area! I wasn't fussed, still buzzing from one of the best shags I've ever had, surrounded by beauties and chatting with an exotic dancer isn't the worst place to be!

My phone began buzzing, music was too loud to hear it but it was 1:15 so could only be Adee. I felt rather guilty as I put the phone on silent. I'd lost track of time and decided I wanted another go on my current girl. She agreed, but wanted another drink first. So we went back to helicopter bar, got a drink each and the girls were running Khmer love songs through the sound system via YouTube. Everyone was having a singalong, I tried joining in but was, as expected, useless.

We got up to leave and I suspected her decision to take me back to her bar was a ploy for me to pay another barfine, but was pleased when the bill came in at $5.10.

Back at the hotel I had a brainwave: Run Khmer love songs on my phone via YouTube and my bluetooth speaker! This went down really well, I sucked hard on those lovely dark labia lips and nipples while she sang her heart out.

Again, once inside that tight pussy I wanted to come straight away, but held out long enough to switch to a few different positions before pounding her really hard from behind. She was playing with herself when I came and seemed disappointed it was over, so I laid her out close to me and played with her breasts while she stimulated herself, she kept pressing her forehead into mine so we were eyeball to eyeball, then she finally came to the chorus of a Khmer love song.

After some cuddling I gave her $50 which she was delighted with and sent her away. As usual hotel reception rang asking "girl can go? "Yes, she may leave".

God I love this place.

Hope other newbies can learn something from my mistakes and flukes.

P.S. As I write this Adee just rang back, she's heading over to my hotel in 2 hrs, knows where it is and has ID, I'm going to give her a little extra for standing her up last night (19 missed calls).

Will report back on day 4.

Member #4698
02-01-17, 23:03
Nice report MongerTron. You are getting the hang of Phnom Penh all right. Ain't Khmer girls charming and so much fun? They are unique among Asian girls.

We are all waiting to see what happens next. Will you go back to Helicopter Bar, or see Adee again, or find another NEW one? Rock on Broheim.


The kid in a sweet shop feeling is still there ...
Popped back into the helicopter bar, there were several good looking girls and a few average ones. ...
This girl was becoming likable. She was playful yet quite funny ...

Back at the room we showered and I got to examine her properly. Medium pert tits, lovely ass and trimmed Bush with nice large labia.
On the bed she said "You boom boom me, not me boom boom you". I moved as if to enter her (she didn't seem to mind I wasn't wearing a condom yet) but instead started sucking her little pert tits, perfectly symmetrical and facing front like little soldiers. Then it was time to move down and suck on those lovely labia lips, which got a very positive reaction. She was bucking and writhing about so much it was difficult to hold her in position but perseverance paid off and she came, very vocally ...

Quick shower together and then she wanted to go out for a drink, so took us to Corner 136. They play loud music running via YouTube and have girls dancing up on stage. My girl knew a waitress there and just as I agreed to get her a drink too the girl who came off the podium also knew my girl so I ended up buying the round. Top marks to my girl for drumming up business for the area! I wasn't fussed, still buzzing from one of the best shags I've ever had, surrounded by beauties and chatting with an exotic dancer isn't the worst place to be!

My phone began buzzing, music was too loud to hear it but it was 1:15 so could only be Adee. I felt rather guilty as I put the phone on silent. I'd lost track of time and decided I wanted another go on my current girl. She agreed, but wanted another drink first. So we went back to helicopter bar, got a drink each and the girls were running Khmer love songs through the sound system via YouTube. Everyone was having a singalong, I tried joining in but was, as expected, useless ...

Back at the hotel I had a brainwave: Run Khmer love songs on my phone via YouTube and my bluetooth speaker! This went down really well, I sucked hard on those lovely dark labia lips and nipples while she sang her heart out.

Again, once inside that tight pussy I wanted to come straight away, but held out long enough to switch to a few different positions before pounding her really hard from behind. She was playing with herself when I came and seemed disappointed it was over, so I laid her out close to me and played with her breasts while she stimulated herself, she kept pressing her forehead into mine so we were eyeball to eyeball, then she finally came to the chorus of a Khmer love song.

After some cuddling I gave her $50 which she was delighted with and sent her away ...
God I love this place ...

P.S. As I write this Adee just rang back, she's heading over to my hotel in 2 hrs, knows where it is and has ID, I'm going to give her a little extra for standing her up last night (19 missed calls).

Will report back on day 4.

RockyHardy21
02-02-17, 04:25
GuyS,

Before I post my reports for my PP trip. I want to share one scam.

Tuk tuk driver around st 130, 136 104 will offer you some VIit gals and will say good gals, came for holiday and bla bla.

I thought to try and went with him. He took me somewhere near Central. One guy came on bike with two gals. Nothing to my like.

Then I asked him to go, then he start saying wait sir. He will get more.

Two more gals comes. Nothing to eye. He keep forcing me. I was saying no no but still he was like sir 40 UDS full night. Good service bla bla. Finally I thought OK let me try.

Then he ask me money and give change for my 100.20 *3 dollar notes. All were fake if you don't feel the paper they look like original (I was already scammed with Fake currency in Sinaukville so I was a bit cautious). I said no. I will give you change later. OK somehow he agreed and come to my hotel. I paid him. And enters inside with gal.

Now Gal says lets do it fast, I have to go home. What the heck I brought you for entire night. But she says no. She don't do BJ, no kissing. Just boom boom.

By this time I was so angry. I said call your boss to give my money back or else I will call reception not to give ID back. Her boss don't pick the call. Finally I threw her out and it was such a bad experience.

Never go with any TUK TUK driver to get gals. Always hunt yourself. Be aware about the fake notes they will give when you are drunk.

Banana Boi
02-02-17, 04:43
Helicopter Bar really has some fun girls. Not all pretty by any means. I met a nice young one named Rayon.

Asian Rain
02-02-17, 13:29
Then he ask me money and give change for my 100.20 *3 dollar notes. All were fake if you don't feel the paper they look like original (I was already scammed with Fake currency in Sinaukville so I was a bit cautious). I said no. I will give you change later. OK somehow he agreed and come to my hotel. I paid him. And enters inside with gal.Good share and good advice. I personally would have bailed once the counterfeit money was detected. Immediate indicator of a rip-off. If I took the girl, then I would have told the pimp to wait outside and pay the girl after the deed was done. Paying a dodgy pimp in advance is a gamble which usually does not pay off. Enjoy, AsianRain.

RacShack
02-02-17, 15:51
Helicopter Bar really has some fun girls. Not all pretty by any means. I met a nice young one named Rayon.Anybody going to Phnom Penh just read back some reports from banana boi and uncle Volodya, they pretty much spot on of what to do and which bars to go to, and where to stay, Lux, bb even say get the apt for girls to take selfies and at first I did not get it until the second girls walk in apt "you'll see" LOL! Not much else to say when they really laid it all out, thanks guys!! I had a blast could never get going though (had a bad cold) I could only imagine how much fun these cuties are if I was a full speed! Oh and make sure you have a pink elephant pub happy pizza.

And if some reason Lux riverside dose not work out, hears a couple more girl friendly hotels (just by walking in and asking. The Quay suite 83.25 standard 56.25 a night, The Point st 130, can't find rates at this moment.

DingoD
02-03-17, 05:49
Great set of reports MongerTron, really enjoyed reading them and the reports were very informative! Looking forward even more to my soon upcoming trip back!

Cheers.

DingoD.


The kid in a sweet shop feeling is still there, however resisting the urge to grab the nearest pretty one is becoming easier.

Popped back into the helicopter bar, there were several good looking girls and a few average ones. The 3 that latched onto me looked very young, 2 looked about 18 and the other about 22, which was initially disappointing because I'd set out to get a more mature girl, mid to late 20's.

They were asking for lady drinks, I'd arranged to meet Adee from Cyrees at 1 am and it was about 11:00, I was just killing time really and none of the girls jumped out at me, but I accepted their offer of a game of pool. During the game I confirmed they were all Bar Fineable and all had ID. Having confirmed the criteria for ST back at my hotel, all of 30 meters away, I agreed to a round of lady drinks.

At the pool table it was easier to check out their bodies; the two youngest were very slim and looked well endowed, but there could be clever bra technology going on there. The older girl had a nice small to medium sized rack, which was confirmed as genuine when she popped one out and started tweaking a nipple to try and distract me from my shot. The ball wasn't potted.

This girl was becoming likable. She was playful yet quite funny, knew enough English for us to get by and appreciated my rudimentary efforts at speaking Khmer. Also she was much more touchy feel than the other two, and from what I could garner from their conversations, had claimed me.

They were asking for more ladydrinks, I agreed to get my girl one and had one myself. We finished the game of pool and I told her to get ready for me to take her away to my hotel...

RockyHardy21
02-03-17, 13:22
I went Phnom Penh in second week of Jan. And report as follow:

Reached quite late to hotel on st 126 took shower had food and started journey.

Few beers at angry bird, honey pot, helicopter and some bars on street 118 island bar, double the. Planned to go for live music and reached Oscar (the one on st 104 not on the river front). Good music good beer and was approached by two cuties one slim one and one a bit chubby. Offered them lady drinks and they were fun (little English but OK I can talk in signs) . Asked the slim one to join for some dance later.

She agreed for 10+50 for long time. Next place is pontoon, it was quite empty that day, had some beers and then she took me to some more girls bars to check more girls.

Back to hotel and nice hour of hearts content boom boom. Damn she was too tight for me and it was first night. Then around 2 she again wanted to go out for some beers. We went to Xandu and she invited some gals to join us and had lot of cheap thrill. Back to hotel and slept. Morning she wanted to go home early, had a early morning boom boom and dropped her.

Day 2-

Again started with dinner at Riverside Resto and some beers and went to honey pot, where I saw one cuties. Asked her to join. She came but then two monster looking gals also joined us on the same sofa. I tried to sue them away but they were super adamant to go. I paid for the lady drinks and left the place in fury.

Next was angry bird. Found one Chinese looking gal, had beer and lady drink for her and she was showing me her entire body. Wow asked the cost. 10+70ST (sorry baby I am not a super rich).

Went to Cycree and surrounded by all gals, none of my like one little cute was there but she was with a Korean guy. Now one och looking came and sat with me. Explored her body and offered her some LDs and left the place.

Now back to ST130 corner bar, all the young cute gals but none of them available for BF. Tried to ask the waitress who came to my hotel in my last visit but she was leaving home next day early morning.

Xandu. Found a beautiful gal outside and grabbed her to inside and then lots of lady drinks and she was exploring my body inside the bar.

She was super cute and new to trade. I asked how much she showed 5 fingers first then trying to show 2 more before I stopped her 40 and she agreed. Hahaha.

10 + 40 for ST. She was 20 years old and was so shy and naughty in the bed. No BJ but I was super horny as she was super young and cute that I don't care.

Dropped her around 4 and slept.

Day 3-

I was quite tired with all 130,136 and 104 so planned to try pontoon. It was Friday night I reached around 11 . If you go after 12 then you have to pay 6 USD as entrance with one free drink. Drinks are generally 4 USD per glass or beer. Many cute gals and most of them were passing smiles. Spoke to some and all wanted 100 for ST. No way. While going toilet I met one nice looking gals and she wanted 70ST. I was like no way. Finally she wanted 50 and we were back in tuk tuk. She gave me a good time and it was funny night.

She left around 2.30. I wanted to try one more time. So went to Airforce bar on 104 and met one Viet looking gal. She wanted 40 + 10 for 3-4 hours. Had two beers and bring her home back. A good and hard pounding in night and one BJ before she left around 6.

DAy 4-

Was planning to try some new, went to Saraya mall (nothing good, all were looking like drug addicts) then heart of darkness. It was empty around 11 PM. While coming back one tuk tukguy offered some viet gals (I have already written my bad experience in previous post). Went to Bar 136 . Saw gals were too loud and dancing. Went inside and saw two guys offering continuous lady drinks to gals so all gals were super happy. One Korean looking gal joined me, had some beers with her and she offered me to join later in my room as it was already around 3. She wanted 60 but I managed to 40 for ST.

She comes to my hotel around 4 and stayed till 6 and again a great fun. She was like a BJ queen. Sucked me sucked me and again. Hahahah. What a night.

Next day I left for Sinaukville with my GF and had three days there.

Some points for first time visitors:

1. other then st 130 corner bar no gal denied to be barfined. Smile at them, offer them drink and you can explore the whole body inside bar itself.

2. 10 (BF) +40ST has become a standard price though they ask 70-80 , if they think you are new but easily come down to 40.

3. Oscar bar on 104 , you can get gal for 50 for LT.

4. Make sure gals take shower. Out of my 6 gals, all went to bathroom to wash but none of them was taking shower. I had to plead and force them to take shower before act.

5. girls are like Asian girlfriend (shy+cute+friendly). If you visit them next time, their friend will join you for drink but will stay away thinking you are a BF to her.

6. don't ever go with Tuk Tuk guy, they will try to lure you by offering Viet gals and bla bla and try to give you fake currency. Please never go even if they offer stars.

7. pontoon is OK if you want to stay till late but seriously if they want to go they will go in first hour. Anyhow if you stay till late you will end up spending same as other bars.

8. unlike Malaysia where short time means 1-1. 5 hour one shot, in PP its like one shot, not about the time. I always took 2-4 hours and they were happy.

9. after Philippines I felt, in bed Philippines are the best but when it comes to true GFE I still feel Khmer gals are the best. They treat you like their BF or husband.

Thanks and have fun.

Banana Boi
02-04-17, 01:04
Make sure gals take shower. Out of my 6 gals, all went to bathroom to wash but none of them was taking shower. I had to plead and force them to take shower before act.Are other guys finding this an issue? I believe all my PP girls have always showered.

Excellent report, Rocky.

Uncle Volodya
02-04-17, 17:03
Thanks for this excellent report. It brings back some good memories of PP. I love those sweet Khmer girls. There really is something unique and beautifully naive about them.

I didn't know you could find FLs at Oscar. This is good info. I will check out out the next time I am in PP.

Incidentally, I have also had girls who didn't want to shower (just washed pussy with the toilet hose). Mostly its the younger fresh off the boat ones that do this. But they will take a shower if you tell them too. They are very obedient. :D.




9. after Philippines I felt, in bed Philippines are the best but when it comes to true GFE I still feel Khmer gals are the best. They treat you like their BF or husband.

Thanks and have fun.

Eszpresszo
02-04-17, 17:49
Are other guys finding this an issue? I believe all my PP girls have always showered.

Excellent report, Rocky.I don't understand why this is such an issue. In Berlin, there were no showers given, taken, though one freelancer offered me a shower on the way out of her apartment. Now, nobody will accuse Germans of being dirty or unhygienic, either. And all of the girls I hooked up with were fresh smelling, as you would expect someone you engaged in her apartment of the brothel where she worked. I take a shower before I set out, she takes a shower at her domicile and its all good.

Yes, I understand that in a hot, humid climate that showers take on a special importance. And I can understand that prostitutes that work the streets have a different set of concerns as far as health and hygiene. But, I find the ritual of a shower before an a shower afterwards, to be a bit much for me, both in Thailand and in Colombia. As a result of this practice, I once had three showers in a two hour period, which is actually not good for your skin. No wonder the girls in Medellin were so aggressively putting moisturizer on their skin after their showers.

Maybe I 'm missing something, but if the girls smells fresh and I'm fresh then why bother? If I am the least bit sweaty, though then give me a shower, please.

AskeAske
02-04-17, 19:44
Maybe I 'm missing something, but if the girls smells fresh and I'm fresh then why bother? If I am the least bit sweaty, though then give me a shower, please.Every man, up to his own. If I am with a new girl, I prefer that both of us shower. If I am with my girlfriend, I enjoy if she not shower. I love her smells. Her sweat, her pussy..................

NewImage
02-05-17, 01:42
The kid in a sweet shop feeling is still there, however resisting the urge to grab the nearest pretty one is becoming easier.
Will report back on day 4.I've shunned away from Camb & PP because of previous posters hit or miss reports. But you're making it sound enticing.

Appreciate your efforts. Keep it up. In both ways.

Forever69
02-05-17, 02:14
Maybe I 'm missing something, but if the girls smells fresh and I'm fresh then why bother? If I am the least bit sweaty, though then give me a shower, please.That's just the point. I had a few real khmer girls who, young and pretty enough did not speak english and they stank from the tiny tight hole. They also did not french kiss or blow like they didn't with the cambodian boyfriend either. Just came to bed with panties and bra which you have to peel off yourself. Would have and did not go down on them. But then there is the shower together where you show them that the pussy must be clean.

Stykler
02-06-17, 07:25
Can any of the forums PP experts advise if they have indulged themselves with one of these, and was it edible? Curious to know.

http://herb.co/2015/11/08/pizza-joint-in-cambodia-offers-amazing-happy-herb-pizzas/

GreenBud
02-06-17, 18:58
Can any of the forums PP experts advise if they have indulged themselves with one of these, and was it edible? Curious to know.

http://herb.co/2015/11/08/pizza-joint-in-cambodia-offers-amazing-happy-herb-pizzas/Pizza is OK. It has a slight aftertaste of the weed, but not too noticeable. It is low quality weed. You only get a mild buzz (from the perspective of a stoner).

Happy Herb Pizza was the first one. It was listed in all the tour books (when there used to be books around). Then many copycats popped up.

When you go there, you just have to tell them, "Make it happy".

Member #4698
02-06-17, 20:33
Pizza is OK. It has a slight aftertaste of the weed, but not too noticeable. It is low quality weed. You only get a mild buzz (from the perspective of a stoner).
Yeah, the weed is definitely low THC quality thus ordering happy pizza in Phnom is a very newbie, touristy thing to do. What is the point other than to send a selfie back to your straight friends showing them how "avant garde" you are. Its ridiculous. When I want a pizza, I want a good tasting, reasonably authentic pizza not a weak buzz and a case of diarrhea.

Try Lemonchellos between 102 and 100 St. riverside. They serve a pretty good pie, but don't be a clown and ask for a happy topping here because you won't get one. Order a good bottle of Chianti instead. Your gastronomy will thank you and you will have a better high. And go to Amsterdam or Aspen if you want to sample some decent quality bud.

Banana Boi
02-06-17, 23:01
I've shunned away from Camb & PP because of previous posters hit or miss reports. But you're making it sound enticing.Imo no one should skip PP. Let's be clear it's definitely not Pattaya and not even Bangkok in terms of quantity but it's still a great place to be in for 3-4 nights. Nothing to do in the day time though so either keep your girl from the night before or write a very detailed ISG report for us. The bars are fun and dirt cheap. They are indoor and all air conditioned. Khmer girls are all friendly but be warned some do get extremely clingy. The hotels are nice and cheap. Airfare from Bangkok $100 and a 1 hour plane ride. My big negative is food around the main bar isn't high quality.

NewImage
02-07-17, 12:04
Imo no one should skip PP. Let's be clear it's definitely not Pattaya and not even Bangkok in terms of quantity but it's still a great place to be in for 3-4 nights. Nothing to do in the day time though so either keep your girl from the night before or write a very detailed ISG report for us. The bars are fun and dirt cheap. They are indoor and all air conditioned. Khmer girls are all friendly but be warned some do get extremely clingy. The hotels are nice and cheap. Airfare from Bangkok $100 and a 1 hour plane ride. My big negative is food around the main bar isn't high quality.In response to above then. If you had 3 wks to spend. How would you break it up in Camb, considering PP, Sihanook & SR were your go to places? It would appear 3 wks is too long. My thoughts 4 days PP, 3 days SR and maybe 5 days Sihanook (I like beaches) and then off to Thai, Phil etc.

Aim: 3/4 mongering 1/4 sightseeing. Thoughts?

AskeAske
02-07-17, 13:16
In response to above then. If you had 3 wks to spend. How would you break it up in Camb, considering PP, Sihanook & SR were your go to places? It would appear 3 wks is too long. My thoughts 4 days PP, 3 days SR and maybe 5 days Sihanook (I like beaches) and then off to Thai, Phil etc.

Aim: 3/4 mongering 1/4 sightseeing. Thoughts?Arrive in Phnom Penh. Stay 3 or 4 days. Go to Siem Reap, where you BYO. Find a nice bargirls and ask her to go with you to Siem Reap. Many would love to go. Stay 4 nights in Siem Reap. Then go to Sihanoukville. Stay 3 or 4 days. Find a nice bargirl. Take her to island, Koh Rong or Koh Rong Samloen. Then back to Sihanoukville. Go to Kampot. BYO again. Spend the last days in Phnom Penh. Catch up with "old" friends from 2 weeks before.


Very easy to spend 3 weeks.

Dont forget to report on ISG.

Member #4698
02-07-17, 14:37
Arrive in Phnom Penh. Stay 3 or 4 days. Go to Siem Reap, where you BYO. Find a nice bargirls and ask her to go with you to Siem Reap. Many would love to go. Stay 4 nights in Siem Reap. Then go to Sihanoukville. Stay 3 or 4 days. Find a nice bargirl. Take her to island, Koh Rong or Koh Rong Samloen. Then back to Sihanoukville. Go to Kampot. BYO again. Spend the last days in Phnom Penh. Catch up with "old" friends from 2 weeks before.

Very easy to spend 3 weeks.

I totally agree with it is "very easy to spend 3 weeks," but differ slightly with AskeAske on the finer points. I would recommend spending at least a week in Phnom Penh and more if possible. It's a great town and chock full of friendly Khmer girls.

3 nights (2 whole days dedicated to visiting the archeological complex) is the minimum for Siem Reap. Actually, Siem Reap is a nice town and I like it better than Chiang Mai, but girl wise it is pretty dry these days and I would not recommend bringing a girl from Phnom unless she is a special girl because your average bar girl will get tired of touring the archeological complex in a hurry and as a result she will dampen down what should otherwise be a remarkable experience.

I really like Kampot and Krep, but there is not much to do there except rent a motor scooter and tour the countryside. One of the best meals I ever had was at the Krep Crab Market where I feasted on Kampot Peppercorn Crab in one of the adjacent sit down restaurants. The meal was spectacular! Kampot and Krep are definitely a BYO girl kind of place for 3 or 4 days of sightseeing and doing nothing at all. I have heard of a couple of brothels in Kampot, but I did not investigate when I was there assuming quality would be real iffy.

I have never been to Snooky because I question whether the beach is worthwhile in itself and because I assume the bar girls are pretty low on the totem pole based on the pictures I have seen and their low low asking prices. Snooky in my opinion is another BYO girl kind of place unless you want to sample the local lesser quality (my assumption only) fruit.

Battambang is another worthwhile destination in Cambodia. It's not for everybody especially guys only interested in mongering, but it is an interesting town and worth a couple of days to check it out if you have other things on your mind besides nooky. I assume there must be a local brothel or two, but again I suspect quality would be real spotty to say the least.

This is why I spend most of my Cambodian time in Phnom where the finest Khmer honey is located, but it is rewarding to check out the rest of the country, especially Siem Reap and Kampot / Krep if you have the time and inclination.

AskeAske
02-07-17, 14:53
I totally agree with it is "very easy to spend 3 weeks," but differ slightly with AskeAske on the finer points. I would recommend spending at least a week in Phnom Penh and more if possible. It's a great town and chock full of friendly Khmer girls.

3 nights (2 whole days dedicated to visiting the archeological complex) is the minimum for Siem Reap. Actually, Siem Reap is a nice town and I like it better than Chiang Mai, but girl wise it is pretty dry these days and I would not recommend bringing a girl from Phnom unless she is a special girl because your average bar girl will get tired of touring the archeological complex in a hurry and as a result she will dampen down what should otherwise be a remarkable experience.

I really like Kampot and Krep, but there is not much to do there except rent a motor scooter and tour the countryside. One of the best meals I ever had was at the Krep Crab Market where I feasted on Kampot Peppercorn Crab in one of the adjacent sit down restaurants. The meal was spectacular! Kampot and Krep are definitely a BYO girl kind of place for 3 or 4 days of sightseeing and doing nothing at all. I have heard of a couple of brothels in Kampot, but I did not investigate when I was there assuming quality would be real iffy.

I have never been to Snooky because I question whether the beach is worthwhile in itself and because I assume the bar girls are pretty low on the totem pole based on the pictures I have seen and their low low asking prices. Snooky in my opinion is another BYO girl kind of place unless you want to sample the local lesser quality (my assumption only) fruit.

Battambang is another worthwhile destination in Cambodia. It's not for everybody especially guys only interested in mongering, but it is an interesting town and worth a couple of days to check it out if you have other things on your mind besides nooky. I assume there must be a local brothel or two, but again I suspect quality would be real spotty to say the least.

This is why I spend most of my Cambodian time in Phnom where the finest Khmer honey is located, but it is rewarding to check out the rest of the country, especially Siem Reap and Kampot / Krep if you have the time and inclination.Always good with a second opinion. I love Phnom Penh and are happy if I can stay for weeks.

I have 2 time taken girls with me to Siem Reap. One from Sihanoukville and one from PP. For both their first visit. They loved it. If the girl is a active budhist, it bring in another dimension to the visit. The temples is build for hinduism, but now taken over of budhism. Siem Reap is in my opinion not a good destination for mongering.

There is no reason to BYO to Sihanoukville. There are many options there. Sihanoukville is very underrated in my opinion. I can always find really nice company there. Very easy to find beautiful girl for LT, 30 dollar a day. Most girls very GFE.

I have never been in Battambang, but it is on my "to do list".

I love Cambodia and Cambodian women.

Member #4698
02-07-17, 17:20
Always good with a second opinion. I love Phnom Penh and are happy if I can stay for weeks.

I have 2 time taken girls with me to Siem Reap. One from Sihanoukville and one from PP. For both their first visit. They loved it. If the girl is a active budhist, it bring in another dimension to the visit. The temples is build for hinduism, but now taken over of budhism. Siem Reap is in my opinion not a good destination for mongering.

There is no reason to BYO to Sihanoukville. There are many options there. Sihanoukville is very underrated in my opinion. I can always find really nice company there. Very easy to find beautiful girl for LT, 30 dollar a day. Most girls very GFE.

I have never been in Battambang, but it is on my "to do list".

I love Cambodia and Cambodian women.Hear Hear on Cambodia and Cambodian women!

Siem Reap: I remember back in the good ol' days there used to be a nightclub (disco)/ massage parlor called Sok San where I met a bevy of nice girls. The place was expensive especially in those days at $50 per girl but always with unlimited number of shags per session. I used to have a real good time there with some pretty high quality girls. I don't think there is anything close to that going on in Siem Reap now. I think you are fortunate to have taken some nice girls interested in the temples and the culture with you. I am sure that with the right girl it can add an extra dimension to the trip.

Sihanoukville: I know I will eventually go there and check it out, but tell me, what is the beach like? I mean is it nice? Clean? Unpolluted? I expect it must be cleaner than Pattaya Beach with respect to water pollution, but how would the Sihanoukville beach compare say to Chaweng or Lamai, Koh Samui, which are pretty nice beaches, though a tad over developed IMHO, but where there is also a fairly decent nightlife? And where would you recommend going to find "nice company" as you put it in Snooky?

AskeAske
02-07-17, 20:26
Hear Hear on Cambodia and Cambodian women!

Sihanoukville: I know I will eventually go there and check it out, but tell me, what is the beach like? I mean is it nice? Clean? Unpolluted? I expect it must be cleaner than Pattaya Beach with respect to water pollution, but how would the Sihanoukville beach compare say to Chaweng or Lamai, Koh Samui, which are pretty nice beaches, though a tad over developed IMHO, but where there is also a fairly decent nightlife? And where would you recommend going to find "nice company" as you put it in Snooky?I know that this is the PP thread, but I tell you a little bit about Sihanoukville.

The night life in Sihanoukville is not concentrated. There are at least 4 areas: Two main areas for hostesbars, Golden Lion area and Victory Hill. There is also bars downtown, but I am not to familiar with them. And the beach bars.

Victory Hill is my favorite area. A small street with some girliebars. Very friendly girls. Thise bars are very good for a fun night in town. Take a girl with you at home, if you want. I never tried a girl say no.

The bars close to Golden Lion are also nice. Maybe more stunners. Most of them also a little more expensive.

At the Serendipity Beach there are some beach bars. Also a fun place for a night out drinking. Just be aware of the stoned backpackers. Easy to find FL there. Just be aware that many of them are drugusers, which I prefer to avoid.

Just remember that Sihanoukvilles nightlife is not that big. You can in no way compare with Pattaya.

There are many different beaches in Sihanoukville. They are very different. The main beaches are Serendipity and Ochheuteal Beach. I never swimm there. Is you want better beach, then go to Otres2 Beach. Just only go for dayvisit. It is very boring at night. Another nice beach is Hawaii Beach. This beach most atract locals. Not many foreigner go here.

If you want really nice beach, then go to one of the islands. Find a nice bargirl and take her to Koh Rong Samloen. An island perfect for GFE. I always stay at Freedom Island Bungalow.

Koh Rong is another island. I normaly avoid this island, because of the many backpackers. I hate all their drugs and noise.

I have not been at the other parts of this island. Maybe more quiet there.

Sihanoukville can be a little rough. Be aware of the police, normaly they are not your friend. Be aware of the tuk-tuk and motodrivers. They always try to scam you a little bit. Normaly I rent a motobike and only use tuk-tuk when out drinking.

Any way, if you are streetwise, you never have big problems.

Natty, I look forward to your report from Sihanoukville.

NewImage
02-08-17, 10:42
I know that this is the PP thread, but I tell you a little bit about Sihanoukville.
There are many different beaches in Sihanoukville. They are very different. The main beaches are Serendipity and Ochheuteal Beach. I never swimm there.
Natty, I look forward to your report from Sihanoukville.I am sure NB and I are thinking the same question re " I never swim there" in relation to Serendipity & Ochy Is it the pollution? The beach contours? Dangerous swells?

I see on vids people swimming there. What exactly s your reason for this comment?

And also thankyou for your time and info.

AskeAske
02-08-17, 13:03
I am sure NB and I are thinking the same question re " I never swim there" in relation to Serendipity & Ochy Is it the pollution? The beach contours? Dangerous swells?

I see on vids people swimming there. What exactly s your reason for this comment?

And also thankyou for your time and info.There are several reasons why I never swim there. Most important, there are too many people. It is a beach filled with beach bars and restaurants at the beach, waterjets in the water etc. Whether they are pollution, I don't know.

I prefer more quiet beaches without too many humans.

DingoD
02-08-17, 13:55
I am sure NB and I are thinking the same question re " I never swim there" in relation to Serendipity & Ochy Is it the pollution? The beach contours? Dangerous swells?

I see on vids people swimming there. What exactly s your reason for this comment?

And also thankyou for your time and info.I have been to Sihanoukville many times, generally stay in the Ochheuteal Beach area, and whilst it's a long way from the most beautiful beaches in the world, ultimately it still sits within the gulf of Thailand and is a decent beach, both for swimming and also enjoying cheap decent food and drinks within 10 metres of a beach which I don't think can be enjoyed for this value for money in too many parts of the world. Throw in the lovely Khmer women available and all things considered it's a pretty sweet setup!

AskeAske
02-12-17, 09:47
Hello all,

I will be visiting Cambodia from Jan 21- 29, 2017. I will be in Siem reap (21-25) and in Phnom penh (25-29) . I have figured out most of bar scene in PP but will be much obliged if you any of you (kind souls) could message me wechat / line / tinder ID of semi professional / amateur WG's. I am looking for a partner to accompany me for entire trip (possibly or PP leg or SR leg) and thus want some credible contacts. I am 29 / Indian fairly athletic and decent looking. I have already started looking on my part but could do with some help. Shall pay standard LT rates. Not into any fetishes / fantasies but would like an occasional anal and regular BBJ.

BR,

NazgyulYou can ask a lot of question. You can send PM and ask for contacts. But you can not write a report. This forum is give and take. I don't think you understand that.

Forever69
02-12-17, 17:41
You can ask a lot of question. You can send PM and ask for contacts. But you can not write a report. This forum is give and take. I don't think you understand that.We share the hobby but we are not pimps.

AskeAske
02-12-17, 21:40
We share the hobby but we are not pimps.I agre with you F69. I never give out contact info. Other guys can find their own taxi-girls.

Member #4698
02-12-17, 22:41
I agre with you F69. I never give out contact info. Other guys can find their own taxi-girls.


We share the hobby but we are not pimps.Yo tambien. Me too! I don't share contact information about my girls over the public forum. Isn't it more than enough that we share our adventures and inform newbies of the places and venues where we have good times as well as bad times? I can't transfer the vibe I establish with a particular girl onto someone else even if I tried. Make your own magic a reality is the message.

I remember the good old days before the internet. The dark information age. I would arrive in a new place, didn't know what to expect, went out and explored and found GOLD! Or I didn't find gold. Today it's like shooting fish in a barrel with all the precise information available on the ISG and other internet sites. What more can we or should we do? You have a gun, now go out there and use it.

I will be visiting Phnom again in a few weeks. I plan to hit all bars I usually go to, but in addition I want to check out a few new places (to me) that I know exist, but haven't really heard much about. Places like the Rock Entertainment Center, Soul Golden City, and Casa Boutique Hotel. I have a rough idea of what I will find, but not really. I may walk in, see nothing interesting, and walk out again in 5 minutes, or I may find something more to my liking and stay for a while. Either way it is all part of the adventure of travel. I will let you guys know what I find in a future trip report.

Forever69
02-13-17, 11:08
.....I have a rough idea of what I will find, but not really. I may walk in, see nothing interesting, and walk out again in 5 minutes, .......And I might walk in 15 minutes after you left with the girl I would have wanted and find nothing for me, timing is really unpredictable but of the essence.

Tonga1234
02-14-17, 12:02
Hello,

My girlfriend and I are looking for a short term hotel nearby Poontoon. We only have a couple of hour from 11 am to 1 pm to do our business. Someone knows where. Where are on foot, and our time is precious.

Thanks in advance.

Nazgylg15
02-14-17, 17:28
You can ask a lot of question. You can send PM and ask for contacts. But you can not write a report. This forum is give and take. I don't think you understand that.Hello,

Thanks for your unsolicited advise. Appreciate it. I did visit PP but didn't see anyone interesting. I bar fined a girl from a loco but she was in mid twenties nothing much to write about. Two visits to Naga world didn't yield much. I did visit Pontoon but again nothing happened. Didn't feel very enthusiastic to put in a report, given I didn't do much. I refrained from st 104 bars as I thought the girls were too young and from 136 bars as they were too old. That left me with only St 130, naga world and pontoon.

Nazgyl.

AskeAske
02-15-17, 08:04
Hello,

Thanks for your unsolicited advise. Appreciate it. I did visit PP but didn't see anyone interesting. I bar fined a girl from a loco but she was in mid twenties nothing much to write about. Two visits to Naga world didn't yield much. I did visit Pontoon but again nothing happened. Didn't feel very enthusiastic to put in a report, given I didn't do much. I refrained from st 104 bars as I thought the girls were too young and from 136 bars as they were too old. That left me with only St 130, naga world and pontoon.

Nazgyl.This is not a report. Tell us about how man girls in the bars. What bar. Age, how they look etc. Tell us about the girl you BF. How much BF. How much to the girl. How long did she stay etc.

You have to do better. If you can not do better, then never ask again.

Banana Boi
02-15-17, 11:49
I refrained from st 104 bars as I thought the girls were too young and from 136 bars as they were too old. That left me with only St 130, naga world and pontoon.
There are many many young girls on Street 136 and a handful of older ones on Street 104. Imo most of Street 130 is a write off especially the most discussed places like Loco and Angry Birds so I understand why you said you didn't see anyone interesting. What about Street 110 and 118? Both those streets have fun bars to visit except Street 110 may have too many young ones for you. Le Cyrcee is a good mix.

Lassecph
02-16-17, 11:06
Hi Askeaske,

Why so negative? You are not to decide what one should or should not do. You are a senior member with lots of reports. Maybe lots of time to write them I don't know. But if I or someone else I asking a question are you the one to decide if we are allowed or not. If it provokes you, someone asks a question, without having written a report first, then just don't answer.

You are not the admin here, or are you?

Nazgylg15
02-18-17, 06:13
Banana Boi,

110 - Spent some time in Double the on couple of days but there was a girl who pretty much cock blocked me. She clung on to me and wouldn't go away.

Office bar was busy when I visited and I was straight in and out.

I suppose I had pretty high expectations. The south east Asian physique is different from European build or Indian build. I don't prefer skinny girls or girls who are too elder or too younger to me. And beer belly is definitely turn off. It 's that moment, when you look at the girl, I decide if I want to take her. I just make the decision in few seconds and usually avoid staring. And not lot of girls prefer Indians, so are usually cold.

Street 104- I hit Rose bar. Lot of pretty girls but I thought they would, possibly be teenagers. Airforce and Xanadu. Straight in and out.

Street 110- Double the, described as above.

Street 136- Butterfly and candy. Straight in and out.

Street 130- angry birds, loco, honeypot.

Naga world. I went to Darling Darling on Friday, Chinese new year. Didn't find lot of WG but couple of girls were very interested. One was a mature Japanese woman and another girl had signs of drug use. (or at least I thought so). I really liked a waitress there and ended up going the next night, just to see her. The second night, Saturday, Japanese men kept most of WG busy. I was more stealing glances at waitress.

Pontoon-The first time I went there, I was with WG I picked up from LOCO. She was very particular that I visit pontoon in shorts, sandals, round neck and shouldn't wear a watch. I was interested in a tall booby girl and she was interested too. But I didn't want to make a move since I was with a WG. I went back on Saturday after Naga world but it was too crowded and she wasn't there. A couple of WG's expected 70 for ST but wasn't interested.

I was looking for LT and didn't consider LACyrcee.

During the visit, I must have spent close to $150 on drinks, I paid $30 to WG from loco for LT on top of $40 bar fine and $20 at pontoon. We had sex twice and she was with me till evening next day.

Franga
02-24-17, 15:10
Here's the deal at LE Cyrcee. When you enter you have to buy a drink. $2. 50 usd for a softdrink. You can't just barfine a chick and head out the door without buying a drink first. Barfine costs $10 usd. When you barfine a girl you also have to buy a lady drink. $3. 50 usd, even if you are heading out the door straight away. Barstaff will also ask for a tip. I left $1 usd. Total so far = $17 usd.

The girl will take you to the Happiness Guesthouse on St 51, a short walk away. Nice room with aircon and hot water, $7 usd. Girl will ask $40 usd to do the deed, but when offered $30 usd will agree immediately. Of course this negotiation is done in LE Cyrcee before agreeing to take her. Upon finishing the deed the girl will say how most mongerers will give her $40 usd, because they are so nice! As if I hadn't heard all this BS before. Ask for a photo and tell her that you will give her one dollar for the photo as a tip, and that will shut her up (as they won't agree to a photo).

Total spent $54 usd. Too much. I need to find a cheap freelancer somewhere next time.

Eszpresszo
02-24-17, 17:21
Total spent $54 usd. Too much. I need to find a cheap freelancer somewhere next time.Thanks for your input on pricing. I am very interested in visiting PP and Cambodia in general, which might be another year out, unfortunately. In your experience, how does PP compare to BKK in terms of price overall? I know its a much, much smaller scene and I realize it is not a Top 10 monger destination. But, that is no my sole reason for visiting Cambodia. I am getting the feeling that Cambodia is the place where a lot of extra costs (tips, mandatory payments etc.) add up and reduce the value of the mongering experience, and possibly non-mongering activities. It is always useful to get feedback on one's options.

BTW, I just back from the DR, which is a wonderful place to monger and relatively cheap. But, you have that problem with various parties wanting a "propina", not to mention each girl will almost hitting you up for one, before leaving.

Banana Boi
02-24-17, 21:07
I am getting the feeling that Cambodia is the place where a lot of extra costs (tips, mandatory payments etc.) add up and reduce the value of the mongering experience, Don't recall where you hobby in BKK but there aren't many bars in BKK that do not have a barfine or allow you to sit down and not order a drink. The $1 tip to the bar staff and $1 tip for a photo is optional, same as it would be in BKK. Using a $7 ST hotel is not necessary if you just go back to your own hotel. ST is $30-40 and LT is $40-70 in PP. Cyrcee is a bit different since they prefer not to go LT. I wasn't aware of a 1 drink lady drink minimum at Cyrcee. I usually have no issues buying a lady drink for 10-15 minutes of DFK and HJ / BJ in a PP bar. Maybe not so much at Cyrcee but most bars have some nice girls. Khmer girls are way more genuine than those BKK girls. In all my Cyrcee visits I've only seen 2 nice girls, Ah Pov and Sela. If you took away Thermae in BKK, I'd much rather spend a week in PP than BKK.

Eszpresszo
02-25-17, 05:23
Don't recall where you hobby in BKK but there aren't many bars in BKK that do not have a barfine or allow you to sit down and not order a drink. The $1 tip to the bar staff and $1 tip for a photo is optional, same as it would be in BKK. Using a $7 ST hotel is not necessary if you just go back to your own hotel. ST is $30-40 and LT is $40-70 in PP. Cyrcee is a bit different since they prefer not to go LT. I wasn't aware of a 1 drink lady drink minimum at Cyrcee. I usually have no issues buying a lady drink for 10-15 minutes of DFK and HJ / BJ in a PP bar. Maybe not so much at Cyrcee but most bars have some nice girls. Khmer girls are way more genuine than those BKK girls. In all my Cyrcee visits I've only seen 2 nice girls, Ah Pov and Sela. If you took away Thermae in BKK, I'd much rather spend a week in PP than BKK.My experience in BKK is limited and I quickly decided I don't like the hustle of dealing with girls out of bars, and no I don't really like the go-gos and girl bars. Either. Some guys like those places, some of us don't.

However, I got the feeling from other sources that PP might be a bit more laid back, and there are good bars that are primarily for the purpose of drinking and some bar girls are on hand if you are interested. And yes, I had heard the girls are an attraction in themselves. I just want to get a feel for any annoyances and nasty vigs pushed on you. In any case, I appreciate your input.

Did you really like Thermae that much? I did take a girl out of there my first night in town, but I think the girls there are mostly wasting their time. I liked the convenience of taking a girl to my room up in the Ruamchitt Plaza and then sending her on her way, while I crashed hard after a 30-hour journey in those wonderful pitch dark rooms with no windows. For me, that's a package in itself.

AskeAske
02-25-17, 14:38
Hi Askeaske,

Why so negative? You are not to decide what one should or should not do. You are a senior member with lots of reports. Maybe lots of time to write them I don't know. But if I or someone else I asking a question are you the one to decide if we are allowed or not. If it provokes you, someone asks a question, without having written a report first, then just don't answer.

You are not the admin here, or are you?Thank you for giving me the right to remain silent. I thought that I should comment on all the stupid questions, Kobenhavner Lasse.

MongerTron
02-25-17, 17:47
Hi mongers,

Sorry for the delay in posting, I'm back from PP and and the memories are fading but thankfully I took notes so will carry on with the trip report on a day-by-day basis.

The main reason I enjoyed myself so much is undoubtedly thanks to the members of this forum posting about their experiences and by doing so giving me tons of pointers and tips, so I'll carry on posting about my experiences in PP and hopefully someone will benefit.

PP day 4.

Adee from Cyrees was due at my hotel at 4 pm so there wasn't much to do until then other than go out for a wander, get some food and withdraw some cash. It was a hot day and I bought a couple of bottles of water from a street vendor. They were sealed bottles and I swilled around the top but after necking them a strange taste remained, which I put down to the exhaust fumes from the traffic. Little did I know what was in store.

I'd told Adee the name of my hotel but wasn't certain she knew what I was on about due to the language barrier, so at 3:45 I headed down to hotel reception and sat out on the balcony to wait. Sure enough the phone rang before long and Adee was looking for me. Both the language and the noise were barriers this time, but thankfully her moto rider came on the line: "I have your girl, where are you?" Two minutes later they pulled up outside.

Adee looked fantastic, grinning away in the sunshine as she jumped off the bike. At first I couldn't work out why she looked so much hotter than before until I realized: No make up (she doesn't start at Cyrees until 6 pm). Just a naturally beautiful Khmer girl with no red lipstick or other cosmetics. She was really excited and bouncing about as we went up to my room. It dawned on me that booking in bar girls before they start work has a few benefits: They're not plastered in makeup, they're more energetic because they're not tired, and I suspected that because they've not earned any money yet that day they're more likely to put in a good performance to get well paid by their first customer.

Upstairs in the room as we showered together I feasted my eyes on her curvy body and pretty smiling face. After she'd finishing washing me I hung around in the bathroom just so I could watch her.

On the bed we kissed and cuddled for a while before she got down to business with a slow BBBJ, really wet and sloppy with lots of ball licking and kissing. She got me to the verge of ejaculation so I switched her to missionary and donned a condom. I forgot how tight she was the first time we were together, but she was hot and juicy and I eased my way into her. That's another thing I like about Khmer girls: The majority of them (though not all) get really naturally wet. Adee was no exception and was squelching away as we spent a few minutes going really slowly and kissing, then I ramped up the tempo, got her legs up behind her ears and gave her a really hard reaming.

Again it was getting to the point where it was going to end, so I switched her to all fours ready for some doggy action. Rather than keeping her pussy tucked away and me having to probe my way into her Adee is one of those girls who spreads her cheeks wide and pokes out her pussy ready to receive. Yummy! I knelt behind her on the bed and got back inside that hot, wet, dark Khmer hole. I started really slowly again, savoring the sensation and then very slowly sped up until she was getting pounded really hard from behind, with me gripping onto her tiny waist and occasionally peeking round to the side to see her medium sized breasts flying about. It wasn't long before yet again I was close to coming, so I withdrew, stood over her on the bed and entered her on a downward angle with me in a semi crouch, squatting up and down to penetrate her. Adee obliged by arching her back inwards and pushing her pussy upwards even more. I wanted to keep this session going by switching to another position but it just felt too good to stop, I was lording it above her, drilling downwards with all my weight into her and all of a sudden just exploded inside her. My balls must have been completely emptied into her because I kept pulsing away, a wave of giddiness overcame me and I nearly fell off the bed!

Afterwards we showered and got dressed, it was about 5.30 and Adee had to go to work. I gave her $40 which she gratefully accepted with a bow, I felt guilty about standing her up the night before so gave her another $10, bowing with my hands held high and apologizing. She squealed, pulled down my hands and pressed them into her chest saying "You are in my heart! Yeah right, she'd just been paid really well and knew it! I was off to Siem Reap the next day for 3 nights and then returning to PP afterwards so we agreed for her to visit me again at 1 am after she finished work in 4 days time, and she left.

After giving hotel reception permission for her to go (the novelty of that never wears off) I needed to decide what to do next, the whole evening awaited but I felt a bit tired and that giddy feeling was back. I hadn't eaten since lunchtime and still didn't feel hungry, but decided to go out for food anyway and then visit a couple of new bars to see what was on offer there. After food the nausea remained, I was in mongering heaven but just wanted to lie down. I decided to call it a day and get an early night, ready for the flight to Siem Reap the next day.

Day 5 to follow.

Banana Boi
02-26-17, 01:50
However, I got the feeling from other sources that PP might be a bit more laid back, and there are good bars that are primarily for the purpose of drinking and some bar girls are on hand if you are interested.

Did you really like Thermae that much? I did take a girl out of there my first night in town, but I think the girls there are mostly wasting their time. I liked the convenience of taking a girl to my room up in the Ruamchitt Plaza and then sending her on her wayI guess there are a couple of large outdoor type bars on Street 136 where you can drink and have only a few girls around. Guys in those bars always look like they're having fun.

As for laid back, it may be the case but the issue with PP you may have is that many times when you walk into a bar you will be the only or one of 2-3 customers. Girls are on you like stink. At Cyrcee for example you will usually be the only guy in the bar and I still remember the first time I walked in and 20+ girls swarmed me and a few were fighting for pole position. I look back and laugh because the only one who wasn't desperate and sat back was the one I chose, Ah Pov. This happens at many bars in PP. It's a bit awkward if you like a few of the girls but only want one for that particular night.

Thermae is great. I can sit in there for hours and just people watch. It's a human social experiment in itself! I find the girls hot and if you hook up with the right one it's great. There are mechanical duds in there though so go on chemistry more than just looks. It's a tad expensive to experiment.

Nokbkk
03-03-17, 18:19
When entering the bar, you get surrounded by 7 or 9 beauties, a warm welcome.

However I prefer a slim beauty, but like this, you can not mark the slim from the chubby ones.

So I ordered a beer, thought give it some time so I can choose better.

No way, all the ladies stayed wrapped around me, all trying to get my attention.

Finally, picked a pretty face, gave her a drink.

I know I don't have to give her I drink, but it offers some get-to-know time, some decency.

1st surprise:

I never ask the lady how much she wants; I offer myself. Asked if she agreed on 20 usd ST. She could not, 40 dollars would do. Gave her a surprised look, but she held on her 40 dollar.

Then, the yes or no is up to me, I will not discuss for 5 or 10 dollar discount. Keep it nice and friendly, even I know I overpay.

2nd surprise:

Asked for the bill, 17 dollar. Guess barfine included. Took the change, and 3-4 girls started shouting tip-tip-tip!

Never saw this in Cambodia, never payed any 'tip' as expected in Thailand. I gave 1 dollar tip.

3rd surprise:

Not a room upstairs, had to go out, a 5 minutes walk, payed 7 dollars for a room.

4th surprise:

Gave her the 40 dollar but she wanted 2 dollar extra for motorbike taxi.

Damage: 17 + 1 + 7 + 40 + 2: 67 dollars.

Think I better stick to the freelancers as in Martinis, Walkabout or Sharky. Many available for 15 usd, I always give 20. Sometimes they stay till morning, despite the agreement on ST.

The girl was good, but not worth the triple price. For me, LE Cyrcee is a place to miss. I don't care I payed to much, they can do that once: I won't go back, they will not see me anymore.

Have to remember a rule: never enter an empty restaurant. If no one inside, get out.

Indeed, I was the only customer at that time.

Banana Boi
03-04-17, 03:59
Think I better stick to the freelancers as in Martinis, Walkabout or Sharky. Many available for 15 usd, I always give 20. Where are these places and what are the best hours to visit them? Are the girls as hot as the top Street 104 girls?

DrPecker
03-04-17, 07:53
Where are these places and what are the best hours to visit them? Are the girls as hot as the top Street 104 girls?Martinis used to be a great FL venue I used to visit every trip, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading that it had closed down a few years ago.

Walkabout was near the Shanghai bar / Pontoon area about a block away from that intersection but also closed I think.

TimTimGuy
03-04-17, 08:53
When entering the bar, you get surrounded by 7 or 9 beauties, a warm welcome.

*snip*

1st surprise: I never ask the lady how much she wants; I offer myself. Asked if she agreed on 20 usd ST. She could not, 40 dollars would do. Gave her a surprised look, but she held on her 40 dollar. Then, the yes or no is up to me, I will not discuss for 5 or 10 dollar discount. Keep it nice and friendly, even I know I overpay.

2nd surprise: Asked for the bill, 17 dollar. Guess barfine included. Took the change, and 3-4 girls started shouting tip-tip-tip! Never saw this in Cambodia, never payed any 'tip' as expected in Thailand. I gave 1 dollar tip.

3rd surprise: Not a room upstairs, had to go out, a 5 minutes walk, payed 7 dollars for a room.

4th surprise: Gave her the 40 dollar but she wanted 2 dollar extra for motorbike taxi.

Damage: 17 + 1 + 7 + 40 + 2: 67 dollars. Think I better stick to the freelancers as in Martinis, Walkabout or Sharky. Many available for 15 usd, I always give 20. Sometimes they stay till morning, despite the agreement on ST.

Indeed, I was the only customer at that time.Hi NokBKK. None of these things are surprises. The $40 is the standard, has been for a while (I first paid that in April last year). The bar charge does include the bar fine, and the short term room is to the right and across the street as you leave Cyrcee. The 2 dollars she hit you up for, for motorbike, was just her way of getting a little cash from somebody who didn't look inclined to tip! So, don't feel bad--you didn't overpay. From your references to Martini's and Walkabout, I think your Cambodia knowledge is a bit dated. TTG.

Simian
03-04-17, 11:51
When entering the bar, you get surrounded by 7 or 9 beauties, a warm welcome.

However I prefer a slim beauty, but like this, you can not mark the slim from the chubby ones.

So I ordered a beer, thought give it some time so I can choose better.

No way, all the ladies stayed wrapped around me, all trying to get my attention.

Finally, picked a pretty face, gave her a drink.

I know I don't have to give her I drink, but it offers some get-to-know time, some decency.

1st surprise:

I never ask the lady how much she wants; I offer myself. Asked if she agreed on 20 usd ST. She could not, 40 dollars would do. Gave her a surprised look, but she held on her 40 dollar.

Then, the yes or no is up to me, I will not discuss for 5 or 10 dollar discount. Keep it nice and friendly, even I know I overpay.

2nd surprise:

Asked for the bill, 17 dollar. Guess barfine included. Took the change, and 3-4 girls started shouting tip-tip-tip!

Never saw this in Cambodia, never payed any 'tip' as expected in Thailand. I gave 1 dollar tip.

3rd surprise:

Not a room upstairs, had to go out, a 5 minutes walk, payed 7 dollars for a room.

4th surprise:

Gave her the 40 dollar but she wanted 2 dollar extra for motorbike taxi.

Damage: 17 + 1 + 7 + 40 + 2: 67 dollars.

Think I better stick to the freelancers as in Martinis, Walkabout or Sharky. Many available for 15 usd, I always give 20. Sometimes they stay till morning, despite the agreement on ST.

The girl was good, but not worth the triple price. For me, LE Cyrcee is a place to miss. I don't care I payed to much, they can do that once: I won't go back, they will not see me anymore.

Have to remember a rule: never enter an empty restaurant. If no one inside, get out.

Indeed, I was the only customer at that time.If you read the forum, even going back a few posts, you would see precisely how the pricing and the system works at this old establishment. If you put LE Cyrcee into the search engine on this site, you would see that they used to have an onsite room but have not had onsite room for years. I heard that this has as much to do with the local authorities as anything else.

Yes, of course you can find freelancers who might go with you for less although I think you will find that not only is the $20 fee for the girl a thing of the past, so is Martinis and I think Walkabout. The latter was known to have the highest incidence of HIV and other STD nasties around.

While freelancers in the old days were sometimes shy but always willing to spend long time with barang who had enough money for beer, food and something for the lady, nowadays you may find that your phone or money may also have gone walk about along with your freelancer. Which is why so many of us like to stick to bars where at least in theory there is comeback, even if only through reputation of the bar.

The great thing about LE Cyrcee is that it is open in the afternoon (when most freelancers are still in bed) and unlike various massage places is not hit or miss and you can make your choice. The costs are well-known too and you don't have to bring the lady back to your room. The girls are vetted and clean and know their work well. And long may it stay that way.

I think you will find that your freelancer is going to cost you something like the same, maybe $30-40 (she may say LT but mean ST) plus drink / food plus taxi plus whatever she can steal back at your place while you are in the shower. It could cost you a lot more and the experience be a lot worse.

You can of course go to the local brothels and find much cheaper especially if you can speak Khmei and have some front but IMHO that is not the experience that most Western men are going to relish where the girls are going to be rough, the decor nasty, a higher chance of being robbed and rushed action.

GreenBud
03-05-17, 00:14
Here's the deal at LE Cyrcee.Accurate info.


The $40 is the standard,They will ask for $40, but they should all still accept $30 (for 1 hour; actually some will say it's for a 50 minute "professional" hour).

Nokbkk
03-08-17, 18:52
Where are these places and what are the best hours to visit them? Are the girls as hot as the top Street 104 girls?Sharky: street 130, nr 126. FL bar.

Walkabout: closed for now, but being renovated at this time. (street 174/51).

Martini: closed, reopened as New Martini on street 174 (near Walkabout) Best time starting from 8 pm.

Riverside: all day, all night. All kinds of FL. Some are low level, others are stunners.

Mondeoman
03-08-17, 23:00
Firstly, apologies for asking for information but I have just had an opportunity to visit PP next week & I don't have long to make the bookings. I have read back over several pages to find hotels recommendations but I'm having a bit of trouble finding many. I've seen the Lux Riverside on ST 136 mentioned & being completely new to PP it seems that would be a good start.

Is this correct & are there any others that might be better that I should consider?

Thanks for any assistance & to the who say RTFF I'm trying but time is a bit against me. If I don't manage to get this booked I'll be stuck In KL & the description of the punting scene there isn't very encouraging.

NewImage
03-09-17, 11:52
Firstly, apologies for asking for information but ............................ If I don't manage to get this booked I'll be stuck In KL & the description of the punting scene there isn't very encouraging.Yeah BC & TC, the spa's, the massage places, the pimps, even the freelancers. Are yeah shocking place to be stuck. LOL.

Fast Eddie 48
03-10-17, 00:02
Firstly, apologies for asking for information but I have just had an opportunity to visit PP next week & I don't have long to make the bookings. I have read back over several pages to find hotels recommendations but I'm having a bit of trouble finding many. I've seen the Lux Riverside on ST 136 mentioned & being completely new to PP it seems that would be a good start.

Is this correct & are there any others that might be better that I should consider?

Thanks for any assistance & to the who say RTFF I'm trying but time is a bit against me. If I don't manage to get this booked I'll be stuck In KL & the description of the punting scene there isn't very encouraging.To Mondeoman.

Most of nicer hotel is near Riverside area and the budget hotel is near the central market, It all depend on your budget cost of hotel is much cheaper than other city like Bangkok, if you want a nice hotel the Naga World casino hotel is about 100 USD a night with a night club where you can pick up girl.

Fast Eddie 48.

Eszpresszo
03-10-17, 05:53
Yeah BC & TC, the spa's, the massage places, the pimps, even the freelancers. Are yeah shocking place to be stuck. LOL.I've made KL a priority for my next trip. I am eager to check out the Richmoore / Ace Elektronik scene on the way to the LOS.

Haokool
03-13-17, 15:45
The $40 is the standard, has been for a while (I first paid that in April last year)The standard is $25.

Haokool
03-13-17, 15:54
Keep it nice and friendly, even I know I overpay.

Asked for the bill, 17 dollar. Guess barfine.
Took the change, and 3-4 girls started shouting tip-tip-tip!
I gave 1 dollar tip.
payed 7 dollars for a room.
Gave her the 40 dollar but she wanted 2 dollar extra for motorbike taxi.
67 dollars.Jeezz, must be a pleasure to do business with you The kind of guy that just doesn't know how to say no.

Morality she will be asking the next chap 50, and he will end-up with a 80 USD bill. 67?

FYI, you'll get a stunner in Europe, the US, and she would rock your world.

Hope you had fun.

Banana Boi
03-13-17, 22:20
The standard is $25.Curious as to which year were you last in PP?


Morality she will be asking the next chap 50, and he will end-up with a 80 USD bill. 67?

FYI, you'll get a stunner in Europe, the US, and she would rock your world.


You can get a stunner in the US for $80?

MikeM488
03-14-17, 06:50
Has the Flamingo Hotel re-opened.

Read on the board they were doing remodel December thru February.

Forever69
03-14-17, 10:46
Is a ripoff place. I still get real nice pussy in pp 15st in my room. I just call in.

NewImage
03-14-17, 12:25
I've made KL a priority for my next trip. I am eager to check out the Richmoore / Ace Elektronik scene on the way to the LOS.Come on. Spend a little more and sample the delights of Beach Club & Thai club et al. Unless you like a quick F & go with sub standard merchandise BYVMD.

MutantChicken
03-14-17, 14:04
Curious as to which year were you last in PP?

You can get a stunner in the US for $80?Guys,

Who have overpaid for the last few years are now staying that its standard, I was in pp 6 months ago and tried a girls there for 30 dollar with little bargaining and she new I wasn't a regular I'm sure if I was a reg and I bargained 25 dollars is standard not the 40 dollars you guys are paying, just to remind you that the standard local places are 10-15 dollars ST and the girls are better looking, tho admittedly the service is pretty basic.

Banana Boi
03-15-17, 05:01
I'm sure plenty of girls/women can be had for $15-25 USD. However, are these the TOP looking girls in PP? If so I'm interested in which bars have top looking $25-30 girls?

Franga
03-15-17, 09:09
Has the Flamingo Hotel re-opened.

Read on the board they were doing remodel December thru February.Passed by there a few days ago, and it is still closed. As is Walkabout.

Member #4698
03-15-17, 09:57
I'm sure plenty of girls/women can be had for $15-25 USD. However, are these the TOP looking girls in PP? If so I'm interested in which bars have top looking $25-30 girls?I am highly skeptical of these claims of "TOP" looking bar girls available for $25 - 30 unless the Punters making these assertions are ex-pats living in Phnom and happen to have long running relationships with these girls and can arrange to see their girls before and after working hours. But hey, I would love to be proven wrong in my assumptions. So to you guys making such claims, post some pictures of your $25 - 30 girls and if they are doable I will stand corrected.

Incidentally I will be making a short 3 day visa run to Phnom Penh in a couple of weeks. I am looking forward to seeing two of my sexy little Khmer friends again (they are definitely high quality and ask significantly more than $30, but they like to spend the night so that somewhat mitigates the cost) and I will most likely find some time to meet one or two new girls as well. I will be searching in some new venues I haven't tried before. I am only interested in very pretty, very sexy BKK / Jakarta equivalent high quality Khmer girls with no tummie trouble, no ta ta's trouble, no acne trouble, and no smelly pussy trouble. So I think I am going to be paying more than $30 unless the pussy market has crashed since 2015, the last time I was in Phnom Penh. 555.

MutantChicken
03-15-17, 12:02
I'm sure plenty of girls/women can be had for $15-25 USD. However, are these the TOP looking girls in PP? If so I'm interested in which bars have top looking $25-30 girls?The issue was what was claimed as the standard price in LE Cyceee, that being 40 dollars, when someone said that it was not 40 and was 25, you then asked when was the last time he was in PP. Now you changing the bar and saying it applies to the top looking girls.

TimTimGuy
03-15-17, 12:04
I am highly skeptical of these claims of "TOP" looking bar girls available for $25 - 30 unless the Punters making these assertions are ex-pats living in Phnom and happen to have long running relationships with these girls and can arrange to see their girls before and after working hours. ... So I think I am going to be paying more than $30 unless the pussy market has crashed since 2015, the last time I was in Phnom Penh. 555.Hi Natty. I enjoy your posts -- have a great time in PP and report back as you usually do.

This note is sort of a left-handed apology as I started this price discussion about 10 days--and I never engage in price discussion in the open forum. (I actually set out to correct a bunch of misinformation about LE Cyrcee, including price-for-the-deed.) I tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.

Best, TTG.

Banana Boi
03-15-17, 12:36
Natty, clear your inbox. Tried sending you some PP recommendations.

Uncle Volodya
03-15-17, 13:15
So I think I am going to be paying more than $30 unless the pussy market has crashed since 2015, the last time I was in Phnom Penh. 555.It has not. Prices are the same as before, if not a little bit more. I was there for new Years and paid $60 to $80 LT for my top quality bar girls from 104 bar and Sweet Lemon. My $80 Sweet Lemon girl stayed with me until she had to go to work at 5 the next day and we had many great shags. I think my friend paid $40ST for the best looking girl at Cyrcee. I did not find her or any of the girls there attractive at all.

I am sure that you can find assorted fugglies for $30. But knowing the discerning gentleman that you are this is not an option.

It is amazing the nonsense that some people post on this forum.

I will be in BKK April 29. Let me know if you will still be around!

Member #4698
03-16-17, 12:05
I will be in BKK April 29. Let me know if you will still be around!


Natty, clear your inbox. Tried sending you some PP recommendations.


Hi Natty.
This note is sort of a left-handed apology as I started this price discussion about 10 days--and I never engage in price discussion in the open forum. (I actually set out to correct a bunch of misinformation about LE Cyrcee, including price-for-the-deed.) I tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.

Hi guys, I am beginning the 4th week of my trip (3rd week in BKK) so to commemorate the occasion I moved from the Marriott Park Exec Apartment Hotel to the Fraser on Soi 11. All I can say is; how times flies when you are having fun! Good thing I still have 6.5 weeks left to my travels. 555 or I might feel a little blue about this.

Please pardon the following out of topic paragraphs that rightly belong in the BKK Reports forum.

Last night my cute little P, my favorite Crazy House girl, was back in town after attending her father's funeral for 5 or 6 days. I stayed on the wagon for the 2nd night in a row and did not consume any tequila. As a result I was in very good form and we had a very tender one on one in my loom and really connected. Afterwards I took her to the 57th Restaurant on Sukhumvit Soi 57, ha ha, for some great Thai Food. I had one beer with dinner.

Tonight I find myself free and open to anything and anyone that strikes my fancy. Mini is still on her mens. D, my little Twister girl, is on her mens too. How odd. Her flow began Tuesday night with some spottings all over my sheets after an incredible 3 way session (YIKES!) with D and Nn, my Twister girl #2. I want to save both of them for a 3 way pool party tentatively scheduled for this Saturday or Sunday afternoon. And my other favorite repeat girl, B (Crazy House #2), currently has no working phone so I can't get a hold of her unless I go to CH for a 2nd night in a row. Not tonight, so I think I might just hit a soapy and let the girl do most of the work or maybe I will just hang out on Soi 11 and see what happens. I don't know.

Oh yeah, I have cleared out a few PM's from my inbox and can receive your generous messages and suggestions. Uncle V, I will be back in Manila on April 29 winding things up on my last week on the road 2017. Looks like we failed to cross paths one more time. But I remain optimistic that one day we will meet up, have a drink or two, and talk about wine, women, films, and great places. Same Same to you Banana Boi. I am thinking I will have to go back to Pattaya for a week or so on my next trip. NEXT TRIP! I am already in the planning stages. Buddha Help Me!

Franga
03-16-17, 20:42
Visited Massage252 on Street252, close to the intersection of Street63. Also known as "Massa" I believe. There is a guy outside directing the punters in, up the stairs, and to a nice little fishbowl of about 20 chicks. Mostly Khmer with blue tags, and a few Viets with red tags. Picked a chick and went to pay the "massage" fee of $15 usd. Room is clean and has a double sized bed. Aircon in the room. Attached bathroom with what seemed to be cold water only. On all of the doors of the rooms there is a very tiny window, about 2 inches by 4 inches, so people can see in. Must be some regulatory requirement I suppose, but funnily enough when the action begins the girl places a "No sex" laminated sign over the window, to ensure privacy.

I have got to stop doing this (ie asking first, because they all overprice) but I asked the chick how much she wanted. $80 usd she replied. I countered with $20 usd, and eventually agreed on $30 usd FS. Massage is non-oil, and I stopped it after about 10 minutes and got on with the good stuff. Paid in the room after all was finished.

Overall not a bad option (considering) for an all in cost of $45 usd. Clean and safe. Open from midday to 1 am I was told. Room picture attached.

Franga
03-16-17, 21:02
Took a look around what Phnom at 9 pm recently, and went into one of the 6 or7 massage parlors on the northeast side of the circular road around the what. Thinking I might be able to get a handie, but alas, not even close. Took a one HR oil massage for $7 usd, which was okay, but the chick made me leave my shorts on! The door of the massage room was mostly all frosted glass but at head level there were several strips of clear see through glass. Obviously no hanky panky available here.

After, at about 10 pm, I strolled around the what. About 10 to 15 FL chicks, some doable. Asked one cute thing how much she wanted, so she looked at her smartwatch and keyed in "20" and showed it to me. I didn't partake as I had read a negative report on the board about these FL's.

Titanio
03-17-17, 23:48
Took a look around what Phnom at 9 pm recently, and went into one of the 6 or7 massage parlors on the northeast side of the circular road around the what. Thinking I might be able to get a handie, but alas, not even close. Took a one HR oil massage for $7 usd, which was okay, but the chick made me leave my shorts on! The door of the massage room was mostly all frosted glass but at head level there were several strips of clear see through glass. Obviously no hanky panky available here.

After, at about 10 pm, I strolled around the what. About 10 to 15 FL chicks, some doable. Asked one cute thing how much she wanted, so she looked at her smartwatch and keyed in "20" and showed it to me. I didn't partake as I had read a negative report on the board about these FL's.Although already 2 years ago, I think I have been in the same shop. And indeed no hanky panky. But everything possible when you were a returning customer. But as you mentioned 45 $ all inclusive in Massage 252 nowadays. Wow! That is 1500 Baht. In Pattaya in the soi next to Soi Lengkee you will get a perfect one hour massage including FS for 1000 Baht, and you do not have to negociate as hard as it always have been in those places in Phom Penh. The times of the 10-20-30 dollar FS activities seem to be long gone by now. But as it is always fun in PP, I have to go back soon.

Meo Den
03-18-17, 02:57
Visited Massage252 on Street252, close to the intersection of Street63. Also known as "Massa" I believe. There is a guy outside directing the punters in, up the stairs, and to a nice little fishbowl of about 20 chicks. Mostly Khmer with blue tags, and a few Viets with red tags. Picked a chick and went to pay the "massage" fee of $15 usd.The massage fee is $7, which you would know if you read.

Hint: take your own oil.

FS $25.

Betong
03-19-17, 04:34
The great thing about LE Cyrcee is that it is open in the afternoon Really? I've never seen it open earlier than 6 pm, and most of the girls aren't out and ready till closer to 7.

Riverstar
03-20-17, 09:45
Really? I've never seen it open earlier than 6 pm, and most of the girls aren't out and ready till closer to 7.Same here also the hotel which used to be opposite is gone.

Cordonier
03-22-17, 13:56
Martini and Walkabout are closed.

And I don't like girl sfrom Sharky: too old.


Where are these places and what are the best hours to visit them? Are the girls as hot as the top Street 104 girls?

Member #4698
03-24-17, 10:44
Hi Guys, I just wrapped up my 3rd week in Bkk (4th week of my trip) and I am now in Phnom. I had a great time last night and I could really kick myself in the ass for scheduling so little time here this trip. Oh well. Next trip I will schedule at least a week here.

1st night: after having some really good Lok Lac with rice and Chicken Amok at Khmer Surin I headed to 130st. It was around 8:30 I first went to Loco, a nice friendly little bar. Unfortunately or fortunately as things later turned out, the two best looking girls there were already attending to other customers. I had a coke light and bought a drink for the 3rd best looking girl in the bar. Although she was nice and friendly I knew I wanted to check out some other places so I remained respectful (didn't feel her up too much) and left after a little while. Next bar I checked out was Honey Pot. I joked with some of the girls outside by asking them if this really was Honey Pot Bar. A couple of the girls here were pretty attractive IMHO, but a plump girl decided to stake her claim on me and wouldn't leave my table. I had the impression that she was preventing the other much cuter girls from coming round. Anyway when I finally extricated myself, but it seemed like the two cuties I liked were not interested any longer, so I paid my tab and left.

The next and final bar I paid a visit to was my all time favorite PP hostess bar, Rose Bar, and as soon as I walked in, I knew I was in the right place. I immediately spotted a very sexy little spinner with brownish blond hair. I sat down at the bar and then another very sexy, but slightly older, more mature, black haired girl sat beside me and struck up a conversation. She was wearing a tight fitting black dress and had a smoking hot body. At this point my story of the night could run on for at least 8 or 9 long paragraphs. I just finished writing it up in my trip journal. But the title of this post is a "short postcard" so I will get down to the nitty gritty.

It turned out the young blond spinner and the black haired temptress were "sisters" or that is what they claim. In any case, I was offered either one (not sure but a threesome might have been originally offered), but when the time came to decide, the older "sister" asked me to barfine and take care of her younger "sister" tonight because she was new to the game and a couple of other reasons, I don't remember what, yada yada yada. But the gist of it was that younger "sister" seemed more than willing for a barfine so I went along with the suggested program even though I was not totally convinced I wanted another young one so soon after my Mandarin 19 year old I had enjoyed on Tuesday in BKK. But I did tell older "sister" that I would come back for her the next night and we exchanged Line ID's to facilitate that engagement. So off I went with the 20 year old and to my complete surprise it turned out that shy little "sister" in the bar was a real sex kitten in the bedroom and back in the loom we had a wild orgasmic time. Here is the short version:

It began with a lugubrious kissing session on the bed. Then we disrobed and the reveal was impressive with little "sister" having very pretty small papaya shaped breasts with big puffy brown nipples, a flat little tummy, and a very nice rounded little ass. In the shower more kissing and soapy shower fun that culminated with little "sister" impaling herself on my dick and the two of us shagging bareback while the water ran down on us from the shower head. After 5 minutes or so I could no longer support her weight so we disengaged, dried off, and then continued the action on the bed with more very wet kissing and tongue sucking before I went down town on her and gave her 20 minutes or longer of extended cunnilingus ending with her having an intense orgasm. I am not kidding. It was awesome! And when she had recovered, I wiped my face on her inner thighs and I moved up between her legs and began shagging her in mish for another 10 minutes or so before picking her up, rolling over onto my back, and finishing with a really satisfying cowgirl until I came.

Leaving out a lot of detail here in order to keep this report somewhat short, but in the end I took her back to the Rose Bar where we hooked up with older "sister" and the three of us had a little Tequila party. I had gotten up at 4:30 am early in the morning to catch the 7 am flight to PP. It was now around 1:30 and I was getting tired, so I reluctantly took my leave of the girls to catch a little shut eye. But I told them I would see them tomorrow night and as of this posting, I have no idea who I will shag tonight. I would love to do a repeat with little "sister", but at the same time, I am very into shagging the older one too. Older "sister" is very alluring and sexually provocative if you know what I mean. 555. So I will just have to see what happens. My initial thought back when the older one first introduced me to the younger one was that she was suggesting a menage a trois. It remains a definite possibility. So far I have enjoyed many threesomes on this trip so one more with these two seems very likely. All I do know is I am looking forward to tonight whatever happens. LOL.

Best wishes from Phnom.

NB.

D Cups
03-24-17, 14:52
Hey Natty, glad you are having a good time. I did one from Rose Bar about five years ago. Big tits. Can't recall her name but she took good care of me. I wonder if she's still there. Cheers.



Best wishes from Phnom.

NB..

Uncle Volodya
03-24-17, 15:07
Hi Guys, I just wrapped up my 3rd week in Bkk (4th week of my trip) and I am now in Phnom. I had a great time last night and I could really kick myself in the ass for scheduling so little time here this trip. Oh well. Next trip I will schedule at least a week here.

1st night: after having some really good Lok Lac with rice and Chicken Amok at Khmer Surin I headed to 130st. It was around 8:30 I first went to Loco, a nice friendly little bar. Unfortunately or fortunately as things later turned out, the two best looking girls there were already attending to other customers. I had a coke light and bought a drink for the 3rd best looking girl in the bar. Although she was nice and friendly I knew I wanted to check out some other places so I remained respectful (didn't feel her up too much) and left after a little while. Next bar I checked out was Honey Pot. I joked with some of the girls outside by asking them if this really was Honey Pot Bar. A couple of the girls here were pretty attractive IMHO, but a plump girl decided to stake her claim on me and wouldn't leave my table. I had the impression that she was preventing the other much cuter girls from coming round. Anyway when I finally extricated myself, but it seemed like the two cuties I liked were not interested any longer, so I paid my tab and left.

The next and final bar I paid a visit to was my all time favorite PP hostess bar, Rose Bar, and as soon as I walked in, I knew I was in the right place. I immediately spotted a very sexy little spinner with brownish blond hair. I sat down at the bar and then another very sexy, but slightly older, more mature, black haired girl sat beside me and struck up a conversation. She was wearing a tight fitting black dress and had a smoking hot body. At this point my story of the night could run on for at least 8 or 9 long paragraphs. I just finished writing it up in my trip journal. But the title of this post is a "short postcard" so I will get down to the nitty gritty.

It turned out the young blond spinner and the black haired temptress were "sisters" or that is what they claim. In any case, I was offered either one (not sure but a threesome might have been originally offered), but when the time came to decide, the older "sister" asked me to barfine and take care of her younger "sister" tonight because she was new to the game and a couple of other reasons, I don't remember what, yada yada yada. But the gist of it was that younger "sister" seemed more than willing for a barfine so I went along with the suggested program even though I was not totally convinced I wanted another young one so soon after my Mandarin 19 year old I had enjoyed on Tuesday in BKK. But I did tell older "sister" that I would come back for her the next night and we exchanged Line ID's to facilitate that engagement. So off I went with the 20 year old and to my complete surprise it turned out that shy little "sister" in the bar was a real sex kitten in the bedroom and back in the loom we had a wild orgasmic time. Here is the short version:

It began with a lugubrious kissing session on the bed. Then we disrobed and the reveal was impressive with little "sister" having very pretty small papaya shaped breasts with big puffy brown nipples, a flat little tummy, and a very nice rounded little ass. In the shower more kissing and soapy shower fun that culminated with little "sister" impaling herself on my dick and the two of us shagging bareback while the water ran down on us from the shower head. After 5 minutes or so I could no longer support her weight so we disengaged, dried off, and then continued the action on the bed with more very wet kissing and tongue sucking before I went down town on her and gave her 20 minutes or longer of extended cunnilingus ending with her having an intense orgasm. I am not kidding. It was awesome! And when she had recovered, I wiped my face on her inner thighs and I moved up between her legs and began shagging her in mish for another 10 minutes or so before picking her up, rolling over onto my back, and finishing with a really satisfying cowgirl until I came.

Leaving out a lot of detail here in order to keep this report somewhat short, but in the end I took her back to the Rose Bar where we hooked up with older "sister" and the three of us had a little Tequila party. I had gotten up at 4:30 am early in the morning to catch the 7 am flight to PP. It was now around 1:30 and I was getting tired, so I reluctantly took my leave of the girls to catch a little shut eye. But I told them I would see them tomorrow night and as of this posting, I have no idea who I will shag tonight. I would love to do a repeat with little "sister", but at the same time, I am very into shagging the older one too. Older "sister" is very alluring and sexually provocative if you know what I mean. 555. So I will just have to see what happens. My initial thought back when the older one first introduced me to the younger one was that she was suggesting a menage a trois. It remains a definite possibility. So far I have enjoyed many threesomes on this trip so one more with these two seems very likely. All I do know is I am looking forward to tonight whatever happens. LOL.

Best wishes from Phnom.

NB.Natty good buddy!

I am glad you are having a great time in PP.

I have a few girls I think you may want to check out. I will email you their pics and which bars you can find them.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

Banana Boi
03-24-17, 18:08
I know Uncle V and I love PP. Glad to see others enjoying this hidden gem. Thanks for the review, Natty.

IllusionHeart
03-24-17, 19:27
Best wishes from Phnom.

NB.Excellent brief description of your sojourn NB. Really glad to see you rocking PNH. My second visit has been long overdue and I am surely going to be visiting PNH combined with snooky on my next holiday trip, hopefully August.

It sure is going to get crowded here in the next few months considering how things have been going or rather expected to go in near future in PYX. PNH definately makes a great option to spend few days apart from Philippines. Keep rocking.

Felrops
03-25-17, 17:46
At Nattty Bumpo: very informative. Thanks. I will be in PP later this year. I surely will visit the Rose Bar.

Macottar
03-28-17, 06:10
Anybody know the going rate in Phnom Penh these days?

I went 7 years ago and the GR at places like sharkys was like 20 usd ST and 30 for LT. Is it the same these days?

I want to be sure when a bargirl comes up to me so I know and don't over pay.

MutantChicken
03-28-17, 18:22
Anybody know the going rate in Phnom Penh these days?

I went 7 years ago and the GR at places like sharkys was like 20 usd ST and 30 for LT. Is it the same these days?

I want to be sure when a bargirl comes up to me so I know and don't over pay.That's what I'd still be aiming for with a +10 on both ST / LT if she is one of the hotter ones (the real hot ones prob all have sponsors and are there just for drinks anyway) but don't be one of the mongers who pays top rates for some fat single mom, then claims that's the going rate for the last 10 yrs etc etc.

Johnie
03-29-17, 06:10
Arrived in Phnom Penh last Friday and usually spend the afternoon drinking the cheap beer at GSM. Currently there is a 37 year old Viet who is 7 months pregnant asking for money for food. She first tells people she is not pregnant, but has retained a lot of "water" - cannot [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), but this is bullshit. I usually give her $1 and pat her taught bare belly.

I told her I know she is pregnant and then she admits it but wants to sell the baby as soon as it comes out. I asked her how much she expected to get for the baby. She told me that if it is a boy she will sell him for $500, but if it's a girl she will sell her for $700. I asked why the difference in price and the girl says "she have pussy". Says it all really.

Yours in mongering.

Johnie.

Axiata
03-29-17, 06:35
Great report Natty.

Been to PP a few times and agree that Rose bar is one of the best. Girls are good fun and also mostly good at their craft. Arrive there today so will be checking it out later. May well look out for the sisters!

Keep up the good work.

Happy hunting.


Hi Guys, I just wrapped up my 3rd week in Bkk (4th week of my trip) and I am now in Phnom. I had a great time last night and I could really kick myself in the ass for scheduling so little time here this trip. Oh well. Next trip I will schedule at least a week here.

1st night: after having some really good Lok Lac with rice and Chicken Amok at Khmer Surin I headed to 130st. It was around 8:30 I first went to Loco, a nice friendly little bar. Unfortunately or fortunately as things later turned out, the two best looking girls there were already attending to other customers. I had a coke light and bought a drink for the 3rd best looking girl in the bar. Although she was nice and friendly I knew I wanted to check out some other places so I remained respectful (didn't feel her up too much) and left after a little while. Next bar I checked out was Honey Pot. I joked with some of the girls outside by asking them if this really was Honey Pot Bar. A couple of the girls here were pretty attractive IMHO, but a plump girl decided to stake her claim on me and wouldn't leave my table. I had the impression that she was preventing the other much cuter girls from coming round. Anyway when I finally extricated myself, but it seemed like the two cuties I liked were not interested any longer, so I paid my tab and left.

The next and final bar I paid a visit to was my all time favorite PP hostess bar, Rose Bar, and as soon as I walked in, I knew I was in the right place. I immediately spotted a very sexy little spinner with brownish blond hair. I sat down at the bar and then another very sexy, but slightly older, more mature, black haired girl sat beside me and struck up a conversation. She was wearing a tight fitting black dress and had a smoking hot body. At this point my story of the night could run on for at least 8 or 9 long paragraphs. I just finished writing it up in my trip journal. But the title of this post is a "short postcard" so I will get down to the nitty gritty.

It turned out the young blond spinner and the black haired temptress were "sisters" or that is what they claim. In any case, I was offered either one (not sure but a threesome might have been originally offered), but when the time came to decide, the older "sister" asked me to barfine and take care of her younger "sister" tonight because she was new to the game and a couple of other reasons, I don't remember what, yada yada yada. But the gist of it was that younger "sister" seemed more than willing for a barfine so I went along with the suggested program even though I was not totally convinced I wanted another young one so soon after my Mandarin 19 year old I had enjoyed on Tuesday in BKK. But I did tell older "sister" that I would come back for her the next night and we exchanged Line ID's to facilitate that engagement. So off I went with the 20 year old and to my complete surprise it turned out that shy little "sister" in the bar was a real sex kitten in the bedroom and back in the loom we had a wild orgasmic time. Here is the short version:

It began with a lugubrious kissing session on the bed. Then we disrobed and the reveal was impressive with little "sister" having very pretty small papaya shaped breasts with big puffy brown nipples, a flat little tummy, and a very nice rounded little ass. In the shower more kissing and soapy shower fun that culminated with little "sister" impaling herself on my dick and the two of us shagging bareback while the water ran down on us from the shower head. After 5 minutes or so I could no longer support her weight so we disengaged, dried off, and then continued the action on the bed with more very wet kissing and tongue sucking before I went down town on her and gave her 20 minutes or longer of extended cunnilingus ending with her having an intense orgasm. I am not kidding. It was awesome! And when she had recovered, I wiped my face on her inner thighs and I moved up between her legs and began shagging her in mish for another 10 minutes or so before picking her up, rolling over onto my back, and finishing with a really satisfying cowgirl until I came.

Leaving out a lot of detail here in order to keep this report somewhat short, but in the end I took her back to the Rose Bar where we hooked up with older "sister" and the three of us had a little Tequila party. I had gotten up at 4:30 am early in the morning to catch the 7 am flight to PP. It was now around 1:30 and I was getting tired, so I reluctantly took my leave of the girls to catch a little shut eye. But I told them I would see them tomorrow night and as of this posting, I have no idea who I will shag tonight. I would love to do a repeat with little "sister", but at the same time, I am very into shagging the older one too. Older "sister" is very alluring and sexually provocative if you know what I mean. 555. So I will just have to see what happens. My initial thought back when the older one first introduced me to the younger one was that she was suggesting a menage a trois. It remains a definite possibility. So far I have enjoyed many threesomes on this trip so one more with these two seems very likely. All I do know is I am looking forward to tonight whatever happens. LOL.

Best wishes from Phnom.

NB.

Banana Boi
03-29-17, 13:53
Personally I have not seen a hot girl at Rose bar but I admit they are a pretty friendly bunch. I almost bought one a ladydrink but even though I didn't she just hung out with me. I tipped her $2 for being fun and she was super happy.


wants to sell the baby as soon as it comes out.I find this really depressing but I guess that's the realities of a poor country.

Axiata
03-30-17, 11:48
A few days to kill in PP so did a few of the bars. Grabbed a spinner who I knew from Helicptor Bar. Lots of girls in the bar but not many worth grabbing. Very few punters around also.

Went to a few clubs to listen to music and grind. Found our way to Naga and I must admit that the girls were plenty but not many punters. Some good lookers but had one in hand so was set.

Back to hotel for a fun session with plenty of oral finished by good range of positions. Funny thing was that this girl normally stays all night for a follow up morning session but decided to leave at 3. 30 pm. Not sure what to make of it but also happy to have a night in bed on my own given the nights of partying in Pattaya. Cambodian girls are a nice change from the usual Thai but I love them both!

Will try out a few other bars tonight and report.

Happy Hunting.

Tasss
03-31-17, 09:52
Reporting on my first trip to Phnom Penh in hopes of helping others who are similarly new. I'm sure those who are experienced will have some different opinions, but I think some first timer tourist perspective is also important. Not everyone plans to live in PP long term or come very frequently. I'm mostly going to focus on logistics. I think the girls are going to vary from day to day and bar to bar so I'm not going to go into too much detail on that. For example I've read generalizations on the forum about the bars on Street XYZ have girls who are older or younger or prettier or whatever, and I just didn't find that to be the case. Sometimes a guy finds a girl at Bar XYZ but she might not be there on that day you visit or she might not treat you like she treated another guy, so while I'll talk about the girls, I'll mostly focus on the facts.

I'll post a separate report detailing my opinion about Angeles City vs Phnom Penh and another for PP daytime activities so check out my other posts.

To give you some background, I normally visit Shanghai and more recently took a couple of trips to Angeles City just to see what everyone else was talking about. You can check out my previous trip reports for info on both cities. I'm in my 30's and not fat. I had a 2 week break between jobs, so why not take a trip to SE Asia before life gets busy again? And that's what I did.

I was deciding between a third visit to AC in the span of 15 months, Phnom Penh and Pattaya. I quickly ruled out AC since, at least for me, there wasn't enough to do in the city to justify going there so frequently. Pattaya will always be there, and it probably changes less than AC / PP since it's more developed, so I wasn't in a hurry to visit it. Which leaves PP as my choice. I also chose PP because I expected there to be a lot more to do during day time unlike in AC.

I had to go late March, not really by choice, but as I explained my new job starts in April. I heard late March-early April is the dry season which isn't the most desirable time of the year to visit. Indeed, a restaurant owner I spoke to said that business is slow at this time of the year. I'm from a part of the US with mild winters and not terribly hot summers, so arriving at PP was a big change in climate. However I'd say around 6 pm the weather becomes bearable and by day 3 I'm mostly used to the sweat and clothes clinging to my body. Still I'd avoid being under direct sunlight for longer than 10 minutes at a time. At least I'm not getting heat and humidity at the same time, which is supposed to start in May and lasts to November.

Tourist visa at the airport is $30 with a photo that you bring yourself (otherwise they charge you). Outside the airport I was offered a motorcycle ride to the riverfront but I'm glad I declined it, choosing a tuk tuk instead. The trip took about an hour and I couldn't imagine spending that time at the back of a motorcycle. The tuk tuk trip was $6. If you tell them "Riverfront" they'll know approximately how much to charge you. Due to the vibrations coming from the tuk tuk, my face got all numb and added to the vehicle fumes, it was really uncomfortable. My later rides in tuk tuks didn't have the same vibration so could be just that one. But still it might be worth it for a lot of people to take a regular taxi instead.

I stayed at the Lux hotel. Booking on Agoda saves quite a bit of money vs reserving with them directly. The location is pretty convenient, right on street 136 where a lot of the bars are. The room is a bit dated, but very spacious. Some rooms don't have enough lighting due to the lack of a ceiling light. I had to change out of my first room for that reason. They're also girl friendly. As in no other fees to bring a girl inside. One thing about Lux (I'm not sure if it's standard in PP) is that reception doesn't necessarily call you when a girl leaves. This leaves it open to having your stuff get stolen so lock anything up that's valuable. However you can ask the girl to leave her ID with the front desk and if that's the case they will give you a call. The guys who work at the front desk also can call over girls for you, but I didn't want to waste time having a girl come and either not liking her or not coming to an agreement on price.

The girls:

Night #1 I went to a bar right across Lux, Sweet Lemon I believe it's called. Immediately was approached by a pretty cute girl who spoke little English. Before paying anything I asked whether she'd barfine and she said yes. Her friends came by and begged for drinks as well but I declined. To kind of cut things short, I negotiated $70 LT for her which is the highest girl fee I ended up paying on this trip. Being a newb and all. With the $10 BF and several drinks (somewhere later in another bar), the total was $95 for the night. Her face was I'd say 7/10 but her body was around 5.5-6 as she has had a kid already. That is one downside of PP vs AC as you don't see her body before you take her. However she was a very sweet girl and perhaps a little clingy. Her English was extremely basic, but not the worst that I'll encounter in PP. I agreed to let her go at 1 am after 2 sessions since I was getting tired and I wanted a good night's rest. We originally agreed to 5 am but I was fine with her leaving earlier. I'm pretty sure she'd stay if I insisted on it though.

Night #2 I looked around St. 104. After peeking into a few bars with nothing interesting inside I settled on a girl from the Airforce Bar. Again I asked straight away whether she barfines. She's not the prettiest girl but had a look that was kind of exotic to me. I didn't see anyone who looked like her in the Philippines for example. Her English was better than average and I had trouble communicating with a couple of other girls in the bar before settling with her. We agreed to $40 for ST. Drinks + BF is another $16. The sex was enjoyable but nothing special. I might have been a little worried about not finding anything for the night so I was thinking to myself I should take more time in choosing the following nights.

Night #3 (scam night) I wanted to try the freelance scene. Basing my decision off my experience in AC, FLs were a great way to get ST for lower than bar prices. The FLs in AC were generally at the same quality level as the bargirls. When deciding where to go for FL action in PP, I read about how Pontoon FLs charge even more than bargirls and the poor quality in Golden Sorya Mall, so I went to check out the what Phnom area. The FLs were around the ring road that surrounds the park and on St 41 that leads up to it, so just walk around it and you'll find them. The results were pretty disappointing though. They were cheaper than bargirls, but the 10 girls that I saw around were mostly either older, fat or ugly. I also encountered my first scam there which I'll detail in another section. After the scam incident, I walked along St 5 between St 136 and 110, found a really cute 20 yo with huge boobs working in one of the bars. She was a a tiny girl with about see sized tits. Very large beautiful eyes and could pass for northern Indian. Again she spoke barely any English but we worked it out to $60 LT. Turns out she was only 1 month on the job and supposedly only barfined once. With some food (after our first session), BF and drinks, the total was $78 for the night. She also doesn't do BJs, which I was fine with. She was very shy and took a bit of effort to get her to disrobe. We had a second session the next morning and she left at 7 am. So the night ended well despite getting scammed out of $35 earlier.

Night #4 I tried to do a bit of exploring again. I started out at around 10:30 pm. First up is Cyrcee which was talked about by several people in this forum. It's on St 49 close to St 130. From Lux, it was about a 10 minute walk, which isn't too bad at night. On Google Maps it's called Cyrcee Secret Bar and the signage outside just says Cyrcee. Anyways, the bar seems out of place on St 49 where there are no other bars surrounding that area. Walking in I was surrounded by 7 girls. There were one or two girls who were doable, but I'd rate them maybe 6.5. Nothing that you can't get on the regular bar areas, so I walked out. I'm not sure why this place is popular, but I didn't see the appeal. Going to Golden Sorya Mall which was about another 3-4 minute walk, I didn't see much of a selection there. There were 4 girls maybe that looked like unoccupied freelancers and none of them were attractive. Then going in the reverse direction, I went to Sharky's. The place was pretty lively at that time of the night with many regular tourists there. But the FL selection was crappy though, I think there were about 5 old or unattractive ladies. Having no luck at these out of the way locations, I went to the bars on St 130. One of them, I think Cheries or something, there's no barfine but you're required to buy 6 drinks before the girl can go back with you, which is effectively the same thing as a BF. Then add the fee for the girl herself. Declined that. In another bar, I chatted up a girl with a thin body and delicate features. Not much English as usual. She said she barfines but unfortunately after spending about an hour with her, she wouldn't go under 50 for ST. Maybe if she was stunningly beautiful I'd do it but she's probably just a 7 at best. Paid 5. 50 for the drinks and left. Next bar I went into I saw another girl who's about a 6.5-7 and I just wanted to close things out quickly at that time. I've been walking and chatting with girls unsuccessfully for the last couple of hours. We negotiated for $30ST. She said she can do $50 for LT but I wanted to rest afterwards so I declined. Her manager came up with a $15 BF "because it was Saturday". Never heard of this before but maybe that's a thing now. I didn't want to argue too much. With drinks, the total was $52. Tipped $1 to a girl who translated for me as she spoke barely any English. She was quite shy in bed but did a cute (though weak) BJ and several positions. I gave her the choice to leave but she stayed til the next day probably because she was tired. I didn't ask for a second session the next morning, although we probably could have worked it out.

Night #5 went around the bars of 136 and 118 and found nothing great. A few doable but nothing really stood out. One girl I was interested in doesn't barfine. Thankfully not a single riel spent in those bars. Right at the end of 118 though a tuk tuk driver asked if I wanted Vietnamese girls. Reading from previous reports I knew this was risky, so I had my guard up. Plus I was scammed just a couple of night before which made me more cautious. The only reason why I considered it was because Viet girls typically are better looking than Khmer girls. But I discussed with the tuk tuk driver that I don't pay anything unless I find a girl I like, and I pay afterwards. He didn't like the post-pay idea, but we went to go see the girls first and decide later. We agreed to $2 for the ride itself and I would not pay unless I find a girl I liked. Somewhere around Central Market in an area without lighting, there's a motorcycle guy waiting with 2 girls. One of them looked young and the other one looked like she was in her 30's. I'll call the younger one Rina (not her real name). Then I discussed the price with the tuk tuk guy since Rina didn't speak much English. I couldn't get it lower than $40ST since it's actually the motorcycle guy (the "papa") setting the price. But before settling I asked to see some more girls. Papa then brought another girl who also looked kind of old, which made me settle on Rina. Now that I've chosen, the tuk tuk guy wants me to prepay. I refused. First this place is dark as hell and if I pay now, it would be easy for them to dump me here and run. So I told them I'm not going to pay unless they take me back to the hotel, and after some lengthy discussion and a stopover at St 118 where he asked me to prepay again, the driver finally did what I asked. During the ride back I figured out Rina wasn't Vietnamese, at least not pure Vietnamese, but not a big deal. Then in front of the hotel we settled on a plan where neither of us gets cheated. First the girl has to leave her ID with the hotel, then I prepay $30 of the $40 to the tuk tuk driver, and the girl collects the rest. Again, after some wrangling he agreed. I gave him a $20 and a $10, he comes back and tries to tell me the $20 is ripped and wants me to exchange for another $20. But I realized he changed it to a fake bill and told him to fuck off. He could have gotten $2 more for the actual ride, but that was that. Rina all this time stayed pretty quiet, so she doesn't seem to be a part of the tuk tuk guy's schemes. I had some faith in that she won't cheat me. Anyways it turns out she was quite the nympho in bed, did a good long BJ session with some deep throat and gave me lots of kisses and hugs after we finished. She treated me like a boyfriend or husband which was pretty interesting. The bad thing was that she looked more like a 5-5.5 instead of maybe a 6. 5 under proper lighting. Even though she was 22 (according to her ID) her wrinkles were starting to show. Her performance made the whole thing kinda worth it though. I gave her the final $10 before she left. So in general, if you don't like doing these shady deals, don't go with tuk tuk guys, but I suppose if you protect yourself well enough it might turn out OK.

Night #6 was full of fail. First stop was Candy Bar right on St 136 and surprisingly, many hotties were there. I counted at least 5 that were lookers. I talked to one girl who seemed to be very enthusiastic and lively in the bar. We agreed to 35ST + 15.5 for BF and drinks. However when we got back to the room, she pulled out all sorts of rules and became a diva. I couldn't even get started banging her because of her attitude and rules, despite that she's quite good looking. After 2 hours, I asked her to leave, but she wouldn't do so unless I paid her $60. I've dealt with this kind of stuff in Angeles, so I called security and they were able to get her out of the room. In the lobby, they tried to talk to her some more and she still insisted getting paid $60. She must have been really upset that I didn't melt under her demands. Anyways I paid her $30 in the lobby, and left it up to her to stay or leave, then went back to my room. This sort of thing does happen and I suppose you just have to use your gut feeling to avoid these divas. I've had them elsewhere too so it's not just PP. At 12:30 am I wanted to try again. I was intending to walk to St 110 but I crossed over to the Riverside on the way there. I walked along Riverside a few times during this trip, but usually around 9-10 pm and I never saw any FLs there. After midnight there seems to be some lone girls going around but on closer inspection, they mostly seem to be ladyboys. Decided to get away from that area. A motorcycle guy then stopped me and asked if I want girls. Using my previous night's experience, I negotiated with him $30 for ST and post-pay. $1 for the ride if I don't find any girls and $2 if I find someone I wanted. He took me to around Central Market again. Another motorcycle guy brought 1 girl and another, neither of whom were attractive. I told my driver to take me to St 104. Paid him $1 when I arrived. Thought about going to Airforce Bar and finding the girl from Night #2 again but thought I'd check out the other ones instead. In a bar with an orange sign, I forgot the name, there was a pretty attractive girl with quite a nice body. We agreed to $30ST + 13.5 BF / drinks. She also seemed to have a good attitude. On our way back, the girl from Night #2 saw me and smiled. When we got to the hotel, the girl was indeed very friendly and gave me a good BJ. But during the middle of the session I saw blood. It appears her period started and she had to leave. She asked for some money and I only wanted to give her $5 since I was super frustrated at that time. She asked for $10 and I refused, but thinking about it now I kind of regret it because she was a nice girl and it's not entirely her fault. She left without taking any money. Anyways the end of a really shitty night.

Night #7 I'm actually getting used to how the tuk tuk / motorcycle girls work. One guy stopped me on my way back from dinner. We agreed to $30ST. He said he'll bring a girl and if I didn't like her we can go somewhere else to pick some more. Note that this time I didn't have to go to some shady place and he'll bring the girls to the lighted areas near the riverfront. Fortunately the first girl he brought wasn't bad looking so I agreed to take her. Based on her body language though I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get a sweet one, but she'll be quite doable. As usual he still wants me to prepay. I guess it's not a bad thing, but I said the girl has to leave her ID at the hotel before I pay anything. So we went back to Lux. She actually didn't have her ID but the hotel reception spoke to her and assured me she'll go up and do her thing. I paid the motorcycle guy $15 per our agreement. In my room, she asked me to prepay. I refused and she didn't argue much. She seemed to be kind of in a rush and she kept getting calls from her mom. I asked if she can turn off her phone and she didn't want to. But oddly I kind of got turned on by her talking to her mom while I was drilling her. We also agreed to $5 more for BJ. We finished fairly quickly and I paid the other $20. But for $35, a fairly decent looking girl, and no need to pay for drinks and BF that's not too bad. A couple of hours later I decided to go check out Cyrcee again. As usual I first want to ask a girl whether she barfines before buying drinks for her or myself, but the French owner or manager forced me to buy a drink. I tried to explain to him that I will once I can confirm they can barfine, but he wasn't having it. He was going to kick me out of the bar and I hadn't spent more than 30 seconds looking at the girls' faces and asking a few questions. At that moment the girl I was interested in said she does barfine so I said OK get her and myself something. The girl turned out alright, $40ST (+16 BF and drinks), she didn't have a diva attitude but it was clear she wanted to leave as soon as possible. Basically a pretty forgettable experience. I can sort of understand why old timers like this bar since it's been there for nearly two decades (so I was told), but I don't see any good reason for new guys like myself to pick this over the riverside bars. The bar owner / manager was rude and the girl confirmed that he can be like this to other customers as well. Neither are the girls prettier on average than the riverside bargirls. It's also really out of the way so you can't easily go to another bar if there's no one inside you like.

Night #8 this is the last night in PP so I kind of wanted a relaxing evening. My first choice is going to see the girl from night #4, but she wasn't there that day. Then I poked around different bars around 110,118 and and 130. One girl doesn't barfine (always helps to ask before buying a drink). Another I confirmed will barfine but she charges $100 for LT, no thanks to idiots who pay these prices. That's just a great example of the main downside of PP's scene, which is different from the other places in Asia I've done p4 p in, China and the Philippines. In both China and the Philippines, you know before you choose a girl how much she costs. In PP it's always a negotiation and if you don't come to an agreement often you've already put money down on some overpriced drinks. In this particular case I paid 5. 5 for drinks for her and myself already. One of my final stops of the night, I saw a girl who was attractive enough for me to talk to her but the way she spoke to me made me concerned about whether she'll be a ***** in the hotel room. Well what's left? Tuk tuk drivers! However this one was a little more disappointing than the previous experiences. I agreed with the driver for $60 LT and $15 prepay ($45 to the girl later). He brings 2 girls, one was fat, even though I told him I don't like fat girls. The other was slim and not bad looking so I went with her. She said she was 18 but looked like 23-24. Tuk tuk driver took me back to my hotel where I agreed to pay the $15 and he wanted more. I refused, but I guess he knew he was not in a good spot to negotiate (since we're in the hotel lobby) so he let the girl go with me. The girl and I went up, but when I took off her clothes, I saw her body was pretty beat up from giving birth. That cut down my libido by a large margin, but still I managed to complete a session with her. Then she starting putting on her clothes to get ready to leave. I was sort of glad that she's going actually because I don't think I'd be able to do a second session given all those scars. However I told her it was 60 for LT not ST. Apparently the tuk tuk guy didn't give her that detail. I offered her $40 for the ST service (with 15 already paid to the tuk tuk guy) and after some negotiation she agreed. In these situations where there's some disagreement I always try to get the girl out of the room first before paying. Well anyways a pretty mediocre end to my trip but there were enough highlights to consider it enjoyable. I think I've learned a lot which will influence where I decide to go next time I make such a trip.

Getting scammed:

Every place has its scams and you learn something each time. In Angeles, I learned to keep my valuables in a safe and to meet girls who I encountered online in the hotel lobby to avoid situations where the girl doesn't look like her pic. In China, you need to avoid calling the outcall services advertising on the business cards that get slid into your hotel room. In PP, it's to be very suspicious of the freelancers at what Phnom and Riverside. When I was looking around Phnom for freelancers, as I mentioned earlier, none of the first 10 girls I saw were really doable. Then I encountered a girl who has had obvious plastic surgery. She was very pretty though, pretty enough that I was kind of suspicious that she was a ladyboy. But her voice sounded feminine enough and she had some boobage. As I was speaking to her, a tuk tuk driver came around and started translating for me. I asked whether she's a ladyboy and she said no. In Angeles, the ladyboys were usually easy to tell because they looked pretty manly, so I thought I knew what they looked like in PP as well. We then agreed to $35ST. I was aware from reading other reports that you shouldn't go with tuk tuk drivers but this one gave the impression that he just came by and wasn't associated with her. Well we went back to my hotel, the driver demanded $10 up front. Unfamiliar with this prepay tactic I gave the money to him. What I learned later on though, with prepay situations, it means the driver's working together with the girl and I should have been on high alert already. In the room the girl asked for the rest of the money up front. Again, a huge red flag. But at the same time, in China the better looking Vietnamese and Venezuelan girls working freelance also ask for money up front so I thought it wasn't necessarily bad. After giving her the money, I asked her to take off her clothes and she refused to do so, even getting angry with the request. I now realize that I made a mistake and she is very likely a ladyboy. She wanted to turn off the lights and blow me and I refused. After an argument, she left the room. I had the hotel stop her but they weren't able to do anything. In the hotel lobby, the reception guy and a few other workers tried to work out the situation, but she refused to return the money, and the hotel wouldn't call the police. They also confirmed she was indeed a ladyboy. The reception guy recommended that I have the girl give them her ID so they have some negotiation power in case shit happens. Plus the ID would also identify their real gender. So, I hope that's a mistake others on the forum will never have to make. There were a lot of things I could have done to prevent this situation but I was using knowledge gained from other places and not PP, which is a big mistake.

My overall impression of the PP bar scene is that it's got some charms. Some guys are drawn to unpredictability but I'm not one of them. It can be exciting the first couple of days though just exploring and seeing what you can get. But especially if you don't repeat with girls, the negotiation, sometimes failing sometimes succeeding routine can be annoying, especially if you just want a good fuck without the hassle. It's not just the negotiations but also the girls' looks aren't as good as in Angeles City or, I assume, Thailand. My immediate post-trip thoughts is that I wouldn't come back again given the other choices in Asia, but I won't say never, and I think everyone should give it a try though.

Axiata
04-01-17, 04:06
Decided to skip the bars tonight as I had finished dinner a lot later than I had hoped. Went to Darlin Darlin to start the night off. Had no interest in taking from there. Done the high end hotel bar thing across asia and was not interested. Just wanted to see the quality and on this night it was average. Girls looked a lot younger than normal. Left and headed to Pontoon. A lot of good lookers there and I met up with one of my regulars. Has a great body and pretty face. Noticed a high ratio of girls to guys so if FLs are your thing then it is a great place to hunt. My date provided her usual great performance and her body is built to please. Cambos are not tigers in bed like Thai girls or good Viets, but I think if you get the right one that they are sweeter.

PP is a fun place for a few days. This trip was no different. Look forward to coming back.

Happy hunting.

Meo Den
04-02-17, 01:54
Reporting on my first trip to Phnom Penh in hopes of helping others who are similarly new.Excellent, detailed report.

You handled the bad situations you encountered as well as anyone could.

I think your conclusions are well-balanced and fair. But sadly it's more evidence of what a p4 p wasteland Phnom Penh has become. Scamming pimps, early leavers, ladyboys, continuous requests for prepayment, gouging bar owners, low quality and generally poor service.

And above all the disrespect from sex workers and their managers.
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Tasss
04-03-17, 03:58
Thanks Meo. As PP develops I'm sure the sex industry will play an ever smaller role in the local economy. I feel like developing Angeles City isn't a big priority of the Philippines government, so that'll probably stay around for a while. PP meanwhile is the jewel of the Cambodian economy and I think that'll lead to the bars getting pushed out from prime real estate eventually.

Anyways I wanted to write a report about the daytime activities around PP. I personally think if you come to PP just for the women it's not really worth it. I came here to see the city as well, and I'm sure a lot of guys want to do other things around town just like I did. There's a lot of information around the web for these touristy items below but I'll give you guys my 2 cents.

Overview: my overall impression of PP is that it's about as developed as a third tier Chinese city and there's probably nothing very comparable in the western world. You can see signs of development starting to happen with modern and sometimes luxury cars on the road, the expensive merchandise at Aeon Mall, and actually the attitudes of some of the girls. But in terms of infrastructure, it's still probably 25 years behind first tier Chinese cities like Beijing and Shanghai. Most of the foreign investment seems to come from China / HK / Singapore, whereas in the Philippines it's mostly Korean. This means you'll see lots of Chinese signage everywhere in PP. Another thing I noticed was that prices had gone up big time compared to some fairly recent guidebooks I've read. One place in my list below didn't even charge admission before, and now it's $1. The Royal Palace increased its entrance fee from $6 to $10.

The sites.

National museum. It's a rather small museum that you can probably finish in about 30 minutes if you hurry. Audio guide and entrance ticket was a total of $10 (5 for the smartphone containing the audio guide and 5 for the ticket). There's unfortunately no AC inside which made touring around kind of tiring. Around half the museum are artifacts after the 18th century and half before. Not as much ancient history as I'd have liked, but I suppose you can go to Siem Reap for that. You can walk there in about 15 min from the Lux hotel or take a $1 tuk tuk. Honestly because of how hot it was even inside, I spent a little less time than I wanted to there, getting through everything in about an hour and a half.

Traditional dance. Located in a small stage off to the side of the national museum. I believe it's a daily show starting at 7 pm, which is after the museum closes. Tickets cost between $25-15 depending on the location of the seat and the show goes for about an hour. I think it's worth the ticket price, but if you're not into that kind of choreographed cultural stuff, don't go. Again, no AC but it does have several large fans which kept things relatively comfortable. One thing you could do is to visit the museum at 3 or 4, when it closes, grab dinner around, and come back for the show instead of coming here twice.

Killing Fields, S21 Prison. I group these two together because often people visit these on the same day and their themes are closely related. Note however they're not close to each other. There's a tour available from my hotel which costs $15 per person which takes you to both. However as it is a tour, your times are strictly guided by the van operator. I think it's cheap enough to reserve a tuk tuk driver to take you to both places. From Lux, reserving a driver for half a day going to both costs $25. If you do them separately, which isn't a bad choice, then going to Killing Fields would have cost me $20 and S21 $4 each way. Killing Fields you can finish in about 30 min if you rush, but I think 1 HR and a half is enough to take in most of it. The place is smaller than I expected. S21 is the more disturbing site as you can see the cells where they kept the prisoners and photos of dead victims. S21 you probably need at least 1 HR even rushing and 3 hrs if you take your time. There are a lot of stories in the audio guide and they're all worth listening to. The only thing about S21 is that there appears to be a bar blasting dance / pop music close by which kind of tones down the darkness of this place. After visiting these places, it makes you appreciate your life in a western country a bit more.

Din Art Gallery. Located right above Feel Good Cafe on St 136 and St 15 I think it was. This was recommended on TripAdvisor, but it's just a small studio with about 15-20 paintings the artist has been working on or recently finished. You can only maybe spend 30 min there if you're not a huge art buff. If Din (the artist) is there you can certainly strike up a conversation. I would not recommend it unless you're within walking distance.

Kanika boat tour. For $7 you can spend about an hour on a boat ride along the Tonle Sap River while watching the sunset. Drinks and meals are also available on the boat ride but there's no need to purchase anything. The river breeze makes this relaxing and peaceful, and you can observe the riverside huts and ferries that bring people and cars across. Located near the Himwari Hotel, you can reach the dock by going through the hotel lobby and going left then down some stairs. Probably you should get there by 4:40 pm to make sure you get the starboard (right side when facing forward) seats, which are better than the left side imo. The boat departs at 5 pm. From Lux, the tuk tuk fee is $2.

Aeon Mall. Everything you'd expect from a modern mall. Includes many food options, a supermarket, live bands performing on the weekends, a movie theater, at least 2 arcades. You can definitely spend half a day there. It was a good break away from the tourist sites to see regular middle class Khmer people enjoying themselves. I watched a movie in the top floor theater and the ticket was $5. The screen and seats were as good or better than many of those found in the US. Besides that and food, everything else is more expensive than in an American mall. Highly recommended if you have a lot of time to kill.

Royal Palace / Silver Pagoda. You can find a lot of reviews online but I'll just add a few of my own notes. The entrance fee is now $10. The tour guide is also $10 which I'd recommend using because explanations on the exhibits are sparse. Not a huge complex but well planned and magnificent to look at. How long you stay there depends on the weather and your heat tolerance. You spend about 50% of the time inside and and 50% outside (mostly under some shade) so temperature is important. For me in 90+ degree Fahrenheit ( 33 C) not so humid weather, I could spend about an hour and a half to two hours there.

Central Market. A typical Asian flea market with souvenirs, clothes, counterfeits, etc. The lack of air conditioning made this place pretty stuffy and uncomfortable mid day. Possibly better during the afternoon, but I've seen enough Asian flea markets (with air conditioning) so it's not interesting enough to make me stay in those weather conditions. A lot of guide books will recommend this place, but maybe only if you've never been to markets like Waigaoqiao in Shanghai where you can shop for fakes in air conditioned malls. The building itself has nice architecture but it's gotten quite dirty and has got cracked walls in some places. Left in about 15 minutes. There's a dim sum place called Dim Sum Emperor next to the market on St 130 which made the trip less of a waste of time.

Ta Khmau Zoo / Prasat Tamao (temple)/ Ta Prohm (near Tonle Bati) - I grouped these together since they're all close and I would recommend seeing them all in one day instead of taking multiple trips to see them separately because each one by itself isn't worth the length of the trip. I would not recommend going there if you're going to Siem Reap since you'll see a lot better ruins there. For me I'm only staying in PP so it was OK. I got there via tuk tuk for $35 for all 3 sites. Actually it's 2 since Prasat Tamao is right outside the zoo. I personally enjoyed the tuk tuk ride since in America it's cars and more cars. The fact that the tuk tuk goes relatively slowly means you can take in the countryside views and check out the roadside villagers without any barriers. A lot of them stare at you since there are relatively few foreigners going that direction. In fact I think I saw just two foreigners during the entire trip. However if you're sensitive to dust, car fumes and bumpy rides, I'd strongly suggest a private car which the hotel can book for you. If you take a tuk tuk, you really have to be tolerant of dust and fumes because it's 2 hrs each way, but for me it's not that bad. Maybe I'm just used to Asia. For private car, I was quoted $50 for Tonle Bati only. Anyways, the zoo itself is not bad. The entrance fee is $5. I kind of had to rush a little bit because there were 2 other sites to see during the trip and I started a little late in the day. However, the zoo is in a forested area which made it more humid than PP, so it wasn't a bad thing to hurry either. Lots of monkeys and wild boars run freely and the monkeys aren't that scared of people. I think what separates this zoo from western zoos is that you can get a little closer to the animals, but it certainly doesn't have the variety of a major western zoo. I spent about an hour in the zoo. At the beginning some women pestered me to buy animal food but I just ignored them. Prasat Tamao is a temple right next to the zoo. Had to really rush this one and spent only 10 min there. But the complex is pretty small and you're going to spend maybe max 20 minutes there even if you had a lot of time. I believe the actual temple is the ruined pile of bricks in front of a more modern structure which isn't much to look at. You're mostly going to be looking at the more modern structures and scene around the hill. It's about 30 min from the zoo / temple to Tonle Bati, specifically Ta Prohm which is the Angkor era ruins (not to be confused with the more famous Siem Reap Ta Prohm). Entrance is $1. Tonle Bati itself is a lake and I skipped it because it's not as much for sightseeing, more for outdoors activities like picnicking. The ruins are quite beautiful to look at and this being not a huge tourist destination helps you take in the scenery slowly. However there are old ladies asking for money and women selling flowers there, and if you ignore them they'll leave you alone after a while. Don't even acknowledge them by saying no or shooing them away. Just pretend they're not there. Very nice daytrip and recommended for if you have a lot of time but aren't interested in overnight trips.

That's all the places I've visited as I only had 7 days / nights. I skipped places like the Russian Market, Night Market, and the various monuments because they're basically repeats of what I've already seen.

Axiata
04-03-17, 10:26
Thanks Meo. As PP develops I'm sure the sex industry will play an ever smaller role in the local economy. I feel like developing Angeles City isn't a big priority of the Philippines government, so that'll probably stay around for a while. PP meanwhile is the jewel of the Cambodian economy and I think that'll lead to the bars getting pushed out from prime real estate eventually.

Anyways I wanted to write a report about the daytime activities around PP. I personally think if you come to PP just for the women it's not really worth it. I came here to see the city as well, and I'm sure a lot of guys want to do other things around town just like I did. There's a lot of information around the web for these touristy items below but I'll give you guys my 2 cents.

Overview: my overall impression of PP is that it's about as developed as a third tier Chinese city and there's probably nothing very comparable in the western world. You can see signs of development starting to happen with modern and sometimes luxury cars on the road, the expensive merchandise at Aeon Mall, and actually the attitudes of some of the girls. But in terms of infrastructure, it's still probably 25 years behind first tier Chinese cities like Beijing and Shanghai. Most of the foreign investment seems to come from China / HK / Singapore, whereas in the Philippines it's mostly Korean. This means you'll see lots of Chinese signage everywhere in PP. Another thing I noticed was that prices had gone up big time compared to some fairly recent guidebooks I've read. One place in my list below didn't even charge admission before, and now it's $1. The Royal Palace increased its entrance fee from $6 to $10.

The sites.

National museum. It's a rather small museum that you can probably finish in about 30 minutes if you hurry. Audio guide and entrance ticket was a total of $10 (5 for the smartphone containing the audio guide and 5 for the ticket). There's unfortunately no AC inside which made touring around kind of tiring. Around half the museum are artifacts after the 18th century and half before. Not as much ancient history as I'd have liked, but I suppose you can go to Siem Reap for that. You can walk there in about 15 min from the Lux hotel or take a $1 tuk tuk. Honestly because of how hot it was even inside, I spent a little less time than I wanted to there, getting through everything in about an hour and a half.

Traditional dance. Located in a small stage off to the side of the national museum. I believe it's a daily show starting at 7 pm, which is after the museum closes. Tickets cost between $25-15 depending on the location of the seat and the show goes for about an hour. I think it's worth the ticket price, but if you're not into that kind of choreographed cultural stuff, don't go. Again, no AC but it does have several large fans which kept things relatively comfortable. One thing you could do is to visit the museum at 3 or 4, when it closes, grab dinner around, and come back for the show instead of coming here twice.

Killing Fields, S21 Prison. I group these two together because often people visit these on the same day and their themes are closely related. Note however they're not close to each other. There's a tour available from my hotel which costs $15 per person which takes you to both. However as it is a tour, your times are strictly guided by the van operator. I think it's cheap enough to reserve a tuk tuk driver to take you to both places. From Lux, reserving a driver for half a day going to both costs $25. If you do them separately, which isn't a bad choice, then going to Killing Fields would have cost me $20 and S21 $4 each way. Killing Fields you can finish in about 30 min if you rush, but I think 1 HR and a half is enough to take in most of it. The place is smaller than I expected. S21 is the more disturbing site as you can see the cells where they kept the prisoners and photos of dead victims. S21 you probably need at least 1 HR even rushing and 3 hrs if you take your time. There are a lot of stories in the audio guide and they're all worth listening to. The only thing about S21 is that there appears to be a bar blasting dance / pop music close by which kind of tones down the darkness of this place. After visiting these places, it makes you appreciate your life in a western country a bit more.

Din Art Gallery. Located right above Feel Good Cafe on St 136 and St 15 I think it was. This was recommended on TripAdvisor, but it's just a small studio with about 15-20 paintings the artist has been working on or recently finished. You can only maybe spend 30 min there if you're not a huge art buff. If Din (the artist) is there you can certainly strike up a conversation. I would not recommend it unless you're within walking distance.

Kanika boat tour. For $7 you can spend about an hour on a boat ride along the Tonle Sap River while watching the sunset. Drinks and meals are also available on the boat ride but there's no need to purchase anything. The river breeze makes this relaxing and peaceful, and you can observe the riverside huts and ferries that bring people and cars across. Located near the Himwari Hotel, you can reach the dock by going through the hotel lobby and going left then down some stairs. Probably you should get there by 4:40 pm to make sure you get the starboard (right side when facing forward) seats, which are better than the left side imo. The boat departs at 5 pm. From Lux, the tuk tuk fee is $2.

Aeon Mall. Everything you'd expect from a modern mall. Includes many food options, a supermarket, live bands performing on the weekends, a movie theater, at least 2 arcades. You can definitely spend half a day there. It was a good break away from the tourist sites to see regular middle class Khmer people enjoying themselves. I watched a movie in the top floor theater and the ticket was $5. The screen and seats were as good or better than many of those found in the US. Besides that and food, everything else is more expensive than in an American mall. Highly recommended if you have a lot of time to kill.

Royal Palace / Silver Pagoda. You can find a lot of reviews online but I'll just add a few of my own notes. The entrance fee is now $10. The tour guide is also $10 which I'd recommend using because explanations on the exhibits are sparse. Not a huge complex but well planned and magnificent to look at. How long you stay there depends on the weather and your heat tolerance. You spend about 50% of the time inside and and 50% outside (mostly under some shade) so temperature is important. For me in 90+ degree Fahrenheit ( 33 C) not so humid weather, I could spend about an hour and a half to two hours there.

Central Market. A typical Asian flea market with souvenirs, clothes, counterfeits, etc. The lack of air conditioning made this place pretty stuffy and uncomfortable mid day. Possibly better during the afternoon, but I've seen enough Asian flea markets (with air conditioning) so it's not interesting enough to make me stay in those weather conditions. A lot of guide books will recommend this place, but maybe only if you've never been to markets like Waigaoqiao in Shanghai where you can shop for fakes in air conditioned malls. The building itself has nice architecture but it's gotten quite dirty and has got cracked walls in some places. Left in about 15 minutes. There's a dim sum place called Dim Sum Emperor next to the market on St 130 which made the trip less of a waste of time.

Ta Khmau Zoo / Prasat Tamao (temple)/ Ta Prohm (near Tonle Bati) - I grouped these together since they're all close and I would recommend seeing them all in one day instead of taking multiple trips to see them separately because each one by itself isn't worth the length of the trip. I would not recommend going there if you're going to Siem Reap since you'll see a lot better ruins there. For me I'm only staying in PP so it was OK. I got there via tuk tuk for $35 for all 3 sites. Actually it's 2 since Prasat Tamao is right outside the zoo. I personally enjoyed the tuk tuk ride since in America it's cars and more cars. The fact that the tuk tuk goes relatively slowly means you can take in the countryside views and check out the roadside villagers without any barriers. A lot of them stare at you since there are relatively few foreigners going that direction. In fact I think I saw just two foreigners during the entire trip. However if you're sensitive to dust, car fumes and bumpy rides, I'd strongly suggest a private car which the hotel can book for you. If you take a tuk tuk, you really have to be tolerant of dust and fumes because it's 2 hrs each way, but for me it's not that bad. Maybe I'm just used to Asia. For private car, I was quoted $50 for Tonle Bati only. Anyways, the zoo itself is not bad. The entrance fee is $5. I kind of had to rush a little bit because there were 2 other sites to see during the trip and I started a little late in the day. However, the zoo is in a forested area which made it more humid than PP, so it wasn't a bad thing to hurry either. Lots of monkeys and wild boars run freely and the monkeys aren't that scared of people. I think what separates this zoo from western zoos is that you can get a little closer to the animals, but it certainly doesn't have the variety of a major western zoo. I spent about an hour in the zoo. At the beginning some women pestered me to buy animal food but I just ignored them. Prasat Tamao is a temple right next to the zoo. Had to really rush this one and spent only 10 min there. But the complex is pretty small and you're going to spend maybe max 20 minutes there even if you had a lot of time. I believe the actual temple is the ruined pile of bricks in front of a more modern structure which isn't much to look at. You're mostly going to be looking at the more modern structures and scene around the hill. It's about 30 min from the zoo / temple to Tonle Bati, specifically Ta Prohm which is the Angkor era ruins (not to be confused with the more famous Siem Reap Ta Prohm). Entrance is $1. Tonle Bati itself is a lake and I skipped it because it's not as much for sightseeing, more for outdoors activities like picnicking. The ruins are quite beautiful to look at and this being not a huge tourist destination helps you take in the scenery slowly. However there are old ladies asking for money and women selling flowers there, and if you ignore them they'll leave you alone after a while. Don't even acknowledge them by saying no or shooing them away. Just pretend they're not there. Very nice daytrip and recommended for if you have a lot of time but aren't interested in overnight trips.

That's all the places I've visited as I only had 7 days / nights. I skipped places like the Russian Market, Night Market, and the various monuments because they're basically repeats of what I've already seen.Thanks for the report Tasss although I think it is more suited to a travel agent website not a mongering one. In terms of the sex industry in PP, the Chinese are investing big into Cambodian infrastructure and bringing in their own workers. They tend to like the KTV scene and I expect that while remain a strong source of attraction for the girls. Over time I think Riverside will be cleaned up but there will be other areas for P4 P. Poverty in the rural areas will mean that the girls will come into the city to look for money and not all like the KTV scene.

PP is still a good hunting ground if you are prepared to accept the good with the bad. Happened to me in my early days in Changping and after a few visits I learned the ropes. Scams, runners, starfish and STIs are all part of the perils of the monger scene.

Happy Hunting.

Red Kilt
04-03-17, 11:17
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Anyways I wanted to write a report about the daytime activities around PP. I personally think if you come to PP just for the women it's not really worth it. I came here to see the city as well, and I'm sure a lot of guys want to do other things around town just like I did.
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That's all the places I've visited as I only had 7 days / nights. I skipped places like the Russian Market, Night Market, and the various monuments because they're basically repeats of what I've already seen.Great report Tasss.

I was there working for almost a month back in 2014 and never saw half the things you saw.

The Killing Fields and S21 are definites, if only to make you realize the background to the present-day country and society.

I had a local resident expat workmate who took me around to a different restaurant every day and evening. There are 100's of excellent restaurants dotted all over PP, serving the french-influenced cuisine and with outstanding wines available (mostly French but others available too).

I didn't enjoy ANY of the bars (I might be spoiled living as I do in Manila) but the few I visited I disliked. Poorly run; swarming women, many of them not attractive at all (to me of course).

I made friends with one of the young guys on the front desk (night staff) of my hotel and he gave me the best mongering experiences. He called in massage girls for me from time to time (to my specifications), and they were all very good (and the massage was good too). A couple of them came back in the early morning around 2 am after their work shift in the parlor had finished too for freebies because they liked having somewhere nice to sleep. God only knows where they normally stay. I didn't want to know that detail.

Tasss
04-04-17, 04:33
Great report Tasss.

I was there working for almost a month back in 2014 and never saw half the things you saw.

The Killing Fields and S21 are definites, if only to make you realize the background to the present-day country and society.

I had a local resident expat workmate who took me around to a different restaurant every day and evening. There are 100's of excellent restaurants dotted all over PP, serving the french-influenced cuisine and with outstanding wines available (mostly French but others available too).

I didn't enjoy ANY of the bars (I might be spoiled living as I do in Manila) but the few I visited I disliked. Poorly run; swarming women, many of them not attractive at all (to me of course).

I made friends with one of the young guys on the front desk (night staff) of my hotel and he gave me the best mongering experiences. He called in massage girls for me from time to time (to my specifications), and they were all very good (and the massage was good too). A couple of them came back in the early morning around 2 am after their work shift in the parlor had finished too for freebies because they liked having somewhere nice to sleep. God only knows where they normally stay. I didn't want to know that detail.Thanks Red. I can imagine if you're working during the day it'll be hard to visit these places. But in reality, a lot of these places are really for people like me to kill time in. PP has a pretty weak day scene as far as I can tell, and both night and day can be disappointing if you've experienced PI heh. If I ever come back I might try the hotel service too, although I purposely avoided them this time.

SirWilliam4
04-04-17, 21:44
I made friends with one of the young guys on the front desk (night staff) of my hotel and he gave me the best mongering experiences. He called in massage girls for me from time to time (to my specifications), and they were all very good (and the massage was good too). A couple of them came back in the early morning around 2 am after their work shift in the parlor had finished too for freebies because they liked having somewhere nice to sleep. God only knows where they normally stay. I didn't want to know that detail.My first visit to PP is coming up fairly soon. Is there a hotel (central location, quiet, good internet, reasonably priced) that you (or anyone else) could recommend?

SW4.

Roaming Viking
04-09-17, 05:51
Hi, I am often in PP and am dying to find out which hotel you are talking about. I usually stay in a low cost close to the Sorya Mall.

Thanks for your help.


My first visit to PP is coming up fairly soon. Is there a hotel (central location, quiet, good internet, reasonably priced) that you (or anyone else) could recommend?

SW4.

Tomasb
04-10-17, 02:00
Try the Okay Boutique Hotel. It has a rather ornate lobby and nice wood paneled rooms. Also, good wifi and cable tv. On a side street so quiet as well. The best feature is their roof top pool on the tenth floor or so. I stayed there two years ago and they had reasonable rates ($50). They are also girl friendly as I brought a girl back from Pontoon though ID is required. The location is a short walk to the National Museum. A couple of times I walked to Pontoon or to the Riverside walk area though it's probably not recommended to walk late at night to either area. I found out later there are quite a few Cowboys roaming about looking to relieve you of your belongings.

The first night I stayed at the Blue Lime Hotel, which is right next door to the Okay. However, it became quickly apparent that it was not GF as there is a big sign on the front desk explaining their onerous policies. Too bad as they had a nice pool too.


My first visit to PP is coming up fairly soon. Is there a hotel (central location, quiet, good internet, reasonably priced) that you (or anyone else) could recommend?

SW4.

Axiata
04-10-17, 10:58
Try the Okay Boutique Hotel. It has a rather ornate lobby and nice wood paneled rooms. Also, good wifi and cable tv. On a side street so quiet as well. The best feature is their roof top pool on the tenth floor or so. I stayed there two years ago and they had reasonable rates ($50). They are also girl friendly as I brought a girl back from Pontoon though ID is required. The location is a short walk to the National Museum. A couple of times I walked to Pontoon or to the Riverside walk area though it's probably not recommended to walk late at night to either area. I found out later there are quite a few Cowboys roaming about looking to relieve you of your belongings.

The first night I stayed at the Blue Lime Hotel, which is right next door to the Okay. However, it became quickly apparent that it was not GF as there is a big sign on the front desk explaining their onerous policies. Too bad as they had a nice pool too.My go to place is Ohana. Try and get a room on sixth floor residence. Only issue of note is that they have now added a roof top dining area so can be a little noisy. However if you have had a big night it is not an issue. They are GF but ID is needed. Pool is nice and staff are ok. Short walk to action and also plenty of places to eat. Right on the waterfront and all Tuk Tuk drivers know it. Short walk to Palace if you are interested in that stuff.

Happy Hunting.

Metalkid1
04-10-17, 15:35
Reporting on my first trip to Phnom Penh in hopes of helping others who are similarly new. I'm sure those who are experienced will have some different opinions, but I think some first timer tourist perspective is also important. Not everyone plans to live in PP long term or come very frequently. I'm mostly going to focus on logistics. I think the girls are going to vary from day to day and bar to bar so I'm not going to go into too much detail on that. For example I've read generalizations on the forum about the bars on Street XYZ have girls who are older or younger or prettier or whatever, and I just didn't find that to be the case. Sometimes a guy finds a girl at Bar XYZ but she might not be there on that day you visit or she might not treat you like she treated another guy, so while I'll talk about the girls, I'll mostly focus on the facts.

I'll post a separate report detailing my opinion about Angeles City vs Phnom Penh and another for PP daytime activities so check out my other posts.

To give you some background, I normally visit Shanghai and more recently took a couple of trips to Angeles City just to see what everyone else was talking about. You can check out my previous trip reports for info on both cities. I'm in my 30's and not fat. I had a 2 week break between jobs, so why not take a trip to SE Asia before life gets busy again? And that's what I did.

I was deciding between a third visit to AC in the span of 15 months, Phnom Penh and Pattaya. I quickly ruled out AC since, at least for me, there wasn't enough to do in the city to justify going there so frequently. Pattaya will always be there, and it probably changes less than AC / PP since it's more developed, so I wasn't in a hurry to visit it. Which leaves PP as my choice. I also chose PP because I expected there to be a lot more to do during day time unlike in AC.

I had to go late March, not really by choice, but as I explained my new job starts in April. I heard late March-early April is the dry season which isn't the most desirable time of the year to visit. Indeed, a restaurant owner I spoke to said that business is slow at this time of the year. I'm from a part of the US with mild winters and not terribly hot summers, so arriving at PP was a big change in climate. However I'd say around 6 pm the weather becomes bearable and by day 3 I'm mostly used to the sweat and clothes clinging to my body. Still I'd avoid being under direct sunlight for longer than 10 minutes at a time. At least I'm not getting heat and humidity at the same time, which is supposed to start in May and lasts to November.

Tourist visa at the airport is $30 with a photo that you bring yourself (otherwise they charge you). Outside the airport I was offered a motorcycle ride to the riverfront but I'm glad I declined it, choosing a tuk tuk instead. The trip took about an hour and I couldn't imagine spending that time at the back of a motorcycle. The tuk tuk trip was $6. If you tell them "Riverfront" they'll know approximately how much to charge you. Due to the vibrations coming from the tuk tuk, my face got all numb and added to the vehicle fumes, it was really uncomfortable. My later rides in tuk tuks didn't have the same vibration so could be just that one. But still it might be worth it for a lot of people to take a regular taxi instead.

I stayed at the Lux hotel. Booking on Agoda saves quite a bit of money vs reserving with them directly. The location is pretty convenient, right on street 136 where a lot of the bars are. The room is a bit dated, but very spacious. Some rooms don't have enough lighting due to the lack of a ceiling light. I had to change out of my first room for that reason. They're also girl friendly. As in no other fees to bring a girl inside. One thing about Lux (I'm not sure if it's standard in PP) is that reception doesn't necessarily call you when a girl leaves. This leaves it open to having your stuff get stolen so lock anything up that's valuable. However you can ask the girl to leave her ID with the front desk and if that's the case they will give you a call. The guys who work at the front desk also can call over girls for you, but I didn't want to waste time having a girl come and either not liking her or not coming to an agreement on price.

The girls:

Night #1 I went to a bar right across Lux, Sweet Lemon I believe it's called. Immediately was approached by a pretty cute girl who spoke little English. Before paying anything I asked whether she'd barfine and she said yes. Her friends came by and begged for drinks as well but I declined. To kind of cut things short, I negotiated $70 LT for her which is the highest girl fee I ended up paying on this trip. Being a newb and all. With the $10 BF and several drinks (somewhere later in another bar), the total was $95 for the night. Her face was I'd say 7/10 but her body was around 5.5-6 as she has had a kid already. That is one downside of PP vs AC as you don't see her body before you take her. However she was a very sweet girl and perhaps a little clingy. Her English was extremely basic, but not the worst that I'll encounter in PP. I agreed to let her go at 1 am after 2 sessions since I was getting tired and I wanted a good night's rest. We originally agreed to 5 am but I was fine with her leaving earlier. I'm pretty sure she'd stay if I insisted on it though.

Night #2 I looked around St. 104. After peeking into a few bars with nothing interesting inside I settled on a girl from the Airforce Bar. Again I asked straight away whether she barfines. She's not the prettiest girl but had a look that was kind of exotic to me. I didn't see anyone who looked like her in the Philippines for example. Her English was better than average and I had trouble communicating with a couple of other girls in the bar before settling with her. We agreed to $40 for ST. Drinks + BF is another $16. The sex was enjoyable but nothing special. I might have been a little worried about not finding anything for the night so I was thinking to myself I should take more time in choosing the following nights.

Night #3 (scam night) I wanted to try the freelance scene. Basing my decision off my experience in AC, FLs were a great way to get ST for lower than bar prices. The FLs in AC were generally at the same quality level as the bargirls. When deciding where to go for FL action in PP, I read about how Pontoon FLs charge even more than bargirls and the poor quality in Golden Sorya Mall, so I went to check out the what Phnom area. The FLs were around the ring road that surrounds the park and on St 41 that leads up to it, so just walk around it and you'll find them. The results were pretty disappointing though. They were cheaper than bargirls, but the 10 girls that I saw around were mostly either older, fat or ugly. I also encountered my first scam there which I'll detail in another section. After the scam incident, I walked along St 5 between St 136 and 110, found a really cute 20 yo with huge boobs working in one of the bars. She was a a tiny girl with about see sized tits. Very large beautiful eyes and could pass for northern Indian. Again she spoke barely any English but we worked it out to $60 LT. Turns out she was only 1 month on the job and supposedly only barfined once. With some food (after our first session), BF and drinks, the total was $78 for the night. She also doesn't do BJs, which I was fine with. She was very shy and took a bit of effort to get her to disrobe. We had a second session the next morning and she left at 7 am. So the night ended well despite getting scammed out of $35 earlier.

Night #4 I tried to do a bit of exploring again. I started out at around 10:30 pm. First up is Cyrcee which was talked about by several people in this forum. It's on St 49 close to St 130. From Lux, it was about a 10 minute walk, which isn't too bad at night. On Google Maps it's called Cyrcee Secret Bar and the signage outside just says Cyrcee. Anyways, the bar seems out of place on St 49 where there are no other bars surrounding that area. Walking in I was surrounded by 7 girls. There were one or two girls who were doable, but I'd rate them maybe 6.5. Nothing that you can't get on the regular bar areas, so I walked out. I'm not sure why this place is popular, but I didn't see the appeal. Going to Golden Sorya Mall which was about another 3-4 minute walk, I didn't see much of a selection there. There were 4 girls maybe that looked like unoccupied freelancers and none of them were attractive. Then going in the reverse direction, I went to Sharky's. The place was pretty lively at that time of the night with many regular tourists there. But the FL selection was crappy though, I think there were about 5 old or unattractive ladies. Having no luck at these out of the way locations, I went to the bars on St 130. One of them, I think Cheries or something, there's no barfine but you're required to buy 6 drinks before the girl can go back with you, which is effectively the same thing as a BF. Then add the fee for the girl herself. Declined that. In another bar, I chatted up a girl with a thin body and delicate features. Not much English as usual. She said she barfines but unfortunately after spending about an hour with her, she wouldn't go under 50 for ST. Maybe if she was stunningly beautiful I'd do it but she's probably just a 7 at best. Paid 5. 50 for the drinks and left. Next bar I went into I saw another girl who's about a 6.5-7 and I just wanted to close things out quickly at that time. I've been walking and chatting with girls unsuccessfully for the last couple of hours. We negotiated for $30ST. She said she can do $50 for LT but I wanted to rest afterwards so I declined. Her manager came up with a $15 BF "because it was Saturday". Never heard of this before but maybe that's a thing now. I didn't want to argue too much. With drinks, the total was $52. Tipped $1 to a girl who translated for me as she spoke barely any English. She was quite shy in bed but did a cute (though weak) BJ and several positions. I gave her the choice to leave but she stayed til the next day probably because she was tired. I didn't ask for a second session the next morning, although we probably could have worked it out.

Night #5 went around the bars of 136 and 118 and found nothing great. A few doable but nothing really stood out. One girl I was interested in doesn't barfine. Thankfully not a single riel spent in those bars. Right at the end of 118 though a tuk tuk driver asked if I wanted Vietnamese girls. Reading from previous reports I knew this was risky, so I had my guard up. Plus I was scammed just a couple of night before which made me more cautious. The only reason why I considered it was because Viet girls typically are better looking than Khmer girls. But I discussed with the tuk tuk driver that I don't pay anything unless I find a girl I like, and I pay afterwards. He didn't like the post-pay idea, but we went to go see the girls first and decide later. We agreed to $2 for the ride itself and I would not pay unless I find a girl I liked. Somewhere around Central Market in an area without lighting, there's a motorcycle guy waiting with 2 girls. One of them looked young and the other one looked like she was in her 30's. I'll call the younger one Rina (not her real name). Then I discussed the price with the tuk tuk guy since Rina didn't speak much English. I couldn't get it lower than $40ST since it's actually the motorcycle guy (the "papa") setting the price. But before settling I asked to see some more girls. Papa then brought another girl who also looked kind of old, which made me settle on Rina. Now that I've chosen, the tuk tuk guy wants me to prepay. I refused. First this place is dark as hell and if I pay now, it would be easy for them to dump me here and run. So I told them I'm not going to pay unless they take me back to the hotel, and after some lengthy discussion and a stopover at St 118 where he asked me to prepay again, the driver finally did what I asked. During the ride back I figured out Rina wasn't Vietnamese, at least not pure Vietnamese, but not a big deal. Then in front of the hotel we settled on a plan where neither of us gets cheated. First the girl has to leave her ID with the hotel, then I prepay $30 of the $40 to the tuk tuk driver, and the girl collects the rest. Again, after some wrangling he agreed. I gave him a $20 and a $10, he comes back and tries to tell me the $20 is ripped and wants me to exchange for another $20. But I realized he changed it to a fake bill and told him to fuck off. He could have gotten $2 more for the actual ride, but that was that. Rina all this time stayed pretty quiet, so she doesn't seem to be a part of the tuk tuk guy's schemes. I had some faith in that she won't cheat me. Anyways it turns out she was quite the nympho in bed, did a good long BJ session with some deep throat and gave me lots of kisses and hugs after we finished. She treated me like a boyfriend or husband which was pretty interesting. The bad thing was that she looked more like a 5-5.5 instead of maybe a 6. 5 under proper lighting. Even though she was 22 (according to her ID) her wrinkles were starting to show. Her performance made the whole thing kinda worth it though. I gave her the final $10 before she left. So in general, if you don't like doing these shady deals, don't go with tuk tuk guys, but I suppose if you protect yourself well enough it might turn out OK.

Night #6 was full of fail. First stop was Candy Bar right on St 136 and surprisingly, many hotties were there. I counted at least 5 that were lookers. I talked to one girl who seemed to be very enthusiastic and lively in the bar. We agreed to 35ST + 15.5 for BF and drinks. However when we got back to the room, she pulled out all sorts of rules and became a diva. I couldn't even get started banging her because of her attitude and rules, despite that she's quite good looking. After 2 hours, I asked her to leave, but she wouldn't do so unless I paid her $60. I've dealt with this kind of stuff in Angeles, so I called security and they were able to get her out of the room. In the lobby, they tried to talk to her some more and she still insisted getting paid $60. She must have been really upset that I didn't melt under her demands. Anyways I paid her $30 in the lobby, and left it up to her to stay or leave, then went back to my room. This sort of thing does happen and I suppose you just have to use your gut feeling to avoid these divas. I've had them elsewhere too so it's not just PP. At 12:30 am I wanted to try again. I was intending to walk to St 110 but I crossed over to the Riverside on the way there. I walked along Riverside a few times during this trip, but usually around 9-10 pm and I never saw any FLs there. After midnight there seems to be some lone girls going around but on closer inspection, they mostly seem to be ladyboys. Decided to get away from that area. A motorcycle guy then stopped me and asked if I want girls. Using my previous night's experience, I negotiated with him $30 for ST and post-pay. $1 for the ride if I don't find any girls and $2 if I find someone I wanted. He took me to around Central Market again. Another motorcycle guy brought 1 girl and another, neither of whom were attractive. I told my driver to take me to St 104. Paid him $1 when I arrived. Thought about going to Airforce Bar and finding the girl from Night #2 again but thought I'd check out the other ones instead. In a bar with an orange sign, I forgot the name, there was a pretty attractive girl with quite a nice body. We agreed to $30ST + 13.5 BF / drinks. She also seemed to have a good attitude. On our way back, the girl from Night #2 saw me and smiled. When we got to the hotel, the girl was indeed very friendly and gave me a good BJ. But during the middle of the session I saw blood. It appears her period started and she had to leave. She asked for some money and I only wanted to give her $5 since I was super frustrated at that time. She asked for $10 and I refused, but thinking about it now I kind of regret it because she was a nice girl and it's not entirely her fault. She left without taking any money. Anyways the end of a really shitty night.

Night #7 I'm actually getting used to how the tuk tuk / motorcycle girls work. One guy stopped me on my way back from dinner. We agreed to $30ST. He said he'll bring a girl and if I didn't like her we can go somewhere else to pick some more. Note that this time I didn't have to go to some shady place and he'll bring the girls to the lighted areas near the riverfront. Fortunately the first girl he brought wasn't bad looking so I agreed to take her. Based on her body language though I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get a sweet one, but she'll be quite doable. As usual he still wants me to prepay. I guess it's not a bad thing, but I said the girl has to leave her ID at the hotel before I pay anything. So we went back to Lux. She actually didn't have her ID but the hotel reception spoke to her and assured me she'll go up and do her thing. I paid the motorcycle guy $15 per our agreement. In my room, she asked me to prepay. I refused and she didn't argue much. She seemed to be kind of in a rush and she kept getting calls from her mom. I asked if she can turn off her phone and she didn't want to. But oddly I kind of got turned on by her talking to her mom while I was drilling her. We also agreed to $5 more for BJ. We finished fairly quickly and I paid the other $20. But for $35, a fairly decent looking girl, and no need to pay for drinks and BF that's not too bad. A couple of hours later I decided to go check out Cyrcee again. As usual I first want to ask a girl whether she barfines before buying drinks for her or myself, but the French owner or manager forced me to buy a drink. I tried to explain to him that I will once I can confirm they can barfine, but he wasn't having it. He was going to kick me out of the bar and I hadn't spent more than 30 seconds looking at the girls' faces and asking a few questions. At that moment the girl I was interested in said she does barfine so I said OK get her and myself something. The girl turned out alright, $40ST (+16 BF and drinks), she didn't have a diva attitude but it was clear she wanted to leave as soon as possible. Basically a pretty forgettable experience. I can sort of understand why old timers like this bar since it's been there for nearly two decades (so I was told), but I don't see any good reason for new guys like myself to pick this over the riverside bars. The bar owner / manager was rude and the girl confirmed that he can be like this to other customers as well. Neither are the girls prettier on average than the riverside bargirls. It's also really out of the way so you can't easily go to another bar if there's no one inside you like.

Night #8 this is the last night in PP so I kind of wanted a relaxing evening. My first choice is going to see the girl from night #4, but she wasn't there that day. Then I poked around different bars around 110,118 and and 130. One girl doesn't barfine (always helps to ask before buying a drink). Another I confirmed will barfine but she charges $100 for LT, no thanks to idiots who pay these prices. That's just a great example of the main downside of PP's scene, which is different from the other places in Asia I've done p4 p in, China and the Philippines. In both China and the Philippines, you know before you choose a girl how much she costs. In PP it's always a negotiation and if you don't come to an agreement often you've already put money down on some overpriced drinks. In this particular case I paid 5. 5 for drinks for her and myself already. One of my final stops of the night, I saw a girl who was attractive enough for me to talk to her but the way she spoke to me made me concerned about whether she'll be a ***** in the hotel room. Well what's left? Tuk tuk drivers! However this one was a little more disappointing than the previous experiences. I agreed with the driver for $60 LT and $15 prepay ($45 to the girl later). He brings 2 girls, one was fat, even though I told him I don't like fat girls. The other was slim and not bad looking so I went with her. She said she was 18 but looked like 23-24. Tuk tuk driver took me back to my hotel where I agreed to pay the $15 and he wanted more. I refused, but I guess he knew he was not in a good spot to negotiate (since we're in the hotel lobby) so he let the girl go with me. The girl and I went up, but when I took off her clothes, I saw her body was pretty beat up from giving birth. That cut down my libido by a large margin, but still I managed to complete a session with her. Then she starting putting on her clothes to get ready to leave. I was sort of glad that she's going actually because I don't think I'd be able to do a second session given all those scars. However I told her it was 60 for LT not ST. Apparently the tuk tuk guy didn't give her that detail. I offered her $40 for the ST service (with 15 already paid to the tuk tuk guy) and after some negotiation she agreed. In these situations where there's some disagreement I always try to get the girl out of the room first before paying. Well anyways a pretty mediocre end to my trip but there were enough highlights to consider it enjoyable. I think I've learned a lot which will influence where I decide to go next time I make such a trip.

Getting scammed:

Every place has its scams and you learn something each time. In Angeles, I learned to keep my valuables in a safe and to meet girls who I encountered online in the hotel lobby to avoid situations where the girl doesn't look like her pic. In China, you need to avoid calling the outcall services advertising on the business cards that get slid into your hotel room. In PP, it's to be very suspicious of the freelancers at what Phnom and Riverside. When I was looking around Phnom for freelancers, as I mentioned earlier, none of the first 10 girls I saw were really doable. Then I encountered a girl who has had obvious plastic surgery. She was very pretty though, pretty enough that I was kind of suspicious that she was a ladyboy. But her voice sounded feminine enough and she had some boobage. As I was speaking to her, a tuk tuk driver came around and started translating for me. I asked whether she's a ladyboy and she said no. In Angeles, the ladyboys were usually easy to tell because they looked pretty manly, so I thought I knew what they looked like in PP as well. We then agreed to $35ST. I was aware from reading other reports that you shouldn't go with tuk tuk drivers but this one gave the impression that he just came by and wasn't associated with her. Well we went back to my hotel, the driver demanded $10 up front. Unfamiliar with this prepay tactic I gave the money to him. What I learned later on though, with prepay situations, it means the driver's working together with the girl and I should have been on high alert already. In the room the girl asked for the rest of the money up front. Again, a huge red flag. But at the same time, in China the better looking Vietnamese and Venezuelan girls working freelance also ask for money up front so I thought it wasn't necessarily bad. After giving her the money, I asked her to take off her clothes and she refused to do so, even getting angry with the request. I now realize that I made a mistake and she is very likely a ladyboy. She wanted to turn off the lights and blow me and I refused. After an argument, she left the room. I had the hotel stop her but they weren't able to do anything. In the hotel lobby, the reception guy and a few other workers tried to work out the situation, but she refused to return the money, and the hotel wouldn't call the police. They also confirmed she was indeed a ladyboy. The reception guy recommended that I have the girl give them her ID so they have some negotiation power in case shit happens. Plus the ID would also identify their real gender. So, I hope that's a mistake others on the forum will never have to make. There were a lot of things I could have done to prevent this situation but I was using knowledge gained from other places and not PP, which is a big mistake.

My overall impression of the PP bar scene is that it's got some charms. Some guys are drawn to unpredictability but I'm not one of them. It can be exciting the first couple of days though just exploring and seeing what you can get. But especially if you don't repeat with girls, the negotiation, sometimes failing sometimes succeeding routine can be annoying, especially if you just want a good fuck without the hassle. It's not just the negotiations but also the girls' looks aren't as good as in Angeles City or, I assume, Thailand. My immediate post-trip thoughts is that I wouldn't come back again given the other choices in Asia, but I won't say never, and I think everyone should give it a try though.That's an insightful FR. Applause.

I would love to see you draw out comparison between AC and PP. (From your experience and travel so far).

I'm somehow unable to decided amongst the two.

Macottar
04-12-17, 14:35
Spent 4 days in PP.

Last time I was here was 10 years ago. The place has changed. Atmosphere not as it used to.

The bargirls have local boyfriends who they take care of. So much attitude amongst many of them.

Also the Chinese / Japanese / Korean guys just throws money at them. They are truly the most evil plague that have infested the SEA nightlife the last 10 years.

Quality is not great. Many fatties. Or with a belly.

Lot of bars, but not much going on inside them. Pretty dead. Mongers are gone.

And this so called "amazing" Rose Bar was a huge disappointment. Quality stunk. Yellow Bar had a few lookers, but nothing special. 136 corner bar overrated. Good old Sharkys still has great food. Quality of the girls not even close to mediocre.

Price: They always start at 50. That is what they are being told I guess from owners and friends. And 10 for the bar fine. Guess you can negotiate, but I hate to be forced in that position. Specially when you have to buy her a drink to even talk with her.

Also, there is a lot of stinky backpackers everywhere. Bunch of freaks that you avoid in Pattaya or Angeles.

Won't be coming back.

Banana Boi
04-12-17, 16:33
And this so called "amazing" Rose Bar was a huge disappointment. Quality stunk. I think you're the first guy on here that agrees with my assessment of the great Rose Bar. What a disappointment whenever I walk in there. The other popular bars on here like Loco and Angry Birds also a major disappointment talent wise. I guess my taste differs.

So you didn't partake in any girls at all?

Forever69
04-13-17, 01:57
So you didn't partake in any girls at all?The good old days are gone.

Axiata
04-13-17, 07:50
The good old days are gone.Interesting to read about the demise of PP bars. I used to monger in Changping in its heydays and the crackdown ended that in a hurry. Was a place in its heyday with a lot of very pretty girls, heaps of KTVs and bars. Same in Beijing when Maggies bar was at its peak was the best bar for Mongolian girls. China is dead now for our hobby.

Been to AC many times and find it to be disappointing. Just the quality of the girls and their eyes for the 333's makes it no fun at all.

Pattaya is still fun but like PP you need to pan to find gold. The old timers there tell me Pattaya is also not a patch on what it once was. I still enjoy the hunt there regardless.

I guess things have changed right across SE Asia. Girls want more because the 333's throw more at them. Not hard to understand why. Even 4000 bht is cheap compared to what western and Korean and Japanese guys have to pay for sex back home with average girls. I do not mind PP but it has limited options and is good for a few days of fun.

Hard to know where the new hunting grounds will be. In the meantime I will continue to do what our hobby demands. Seek out the gems from the fakes.

Happy hunting.

FunExplorer
04-25-17, 13:14
This sounds like great advice and reflects me and BB's experience thus far. Thanks for posting this!

I'd only add that we really like the bars on 104 . Younger girls that are more action oriented at the bar. Though we also had a wild time at a 130 bar last night too. That bar last night would have put even Windmill to shame. 555.Can you please let me know which one was that? Also, I would appreciate your recommendations of other bars for girls.

Banana Boi
04-25-17, 21:50
The bar on 130 was Intoxica. Uncle V and I were raped! I won't name the common bars but another fun one no one mentions is Heartbreakers (across from Pasha) on 118. Don't expect top lookers at either bar by any means.

MikeM488
04-30-17, 20:17
Flamingo hotel will not be open for 9 to 12 months. They are basically tore down most of the walls.

Walkabout- 6 to 9 months. The windows are all gone. I was in town for a week. Never saw any workers and my hotel was down the street.

Blue tongue hotel- 3 to 6 months. They are working at the site.

Forever69
05-03-17, 02:36
Flamingo hotel will not be open for 9 to 12 months. They are basically tore down most of the walls.

Walkabout- 6 to 9 months. The windows are all gone. I was in town for a week. Never saw any workers and my hotel was down the street.

Blue tongue hotel- 3 to 6 months. They are working at the site.Word on the street has it that walkabout will never reopen, why should it? Nobody went there in the end. It went out of business as did martini. It was dead.

McSkillet
05-06-17, 04:53
Hey erm Jorya,

Do you still have contact for all the girl in Phnom Penh? I would like to take some of them.

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