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Banana Boi
05-06-17, 17:12
Do you still have contact for all the girl in Phnom Penh? I would like to take some of them.If you share some field reports on the forum, then guys on ISG are more inclined to share info with you. However, as Jackson pointed out, you also need to purchase a membership for PM privileges.

Forever69
05-07-17, 15:51
Hey erm Jorya,

Do you still have contact for all the girl in Phnom Penh? I would like to take some of them.

We might share a hobby- but we're certainly not pimps.

Hey erm Jorya- is that another language? IF SO. SPEAK ENGLISH PLEASE.

Tcvve
05-14-17, 11:07
Flamingo hotel will not be open for 9 to 12 months. They are basically tore down most of the walls.

Walkabout- 6 to 9 months. The windows are all gone. I was in town for a week. Never saw any workers and my hotel was down the street.

Blue tongue hotel- 3 to 6 months. They are working at the site.Thanks for the update Mikem488.

Any recommendations on a GF Hotel near the Flamingo Hotel area price range $35.00 max?

TC.

Syzygies
05-15-17, 07:36
I don't have much to offer anyone who knows PP.

I make a comparison for those normally in Bangkok.

Phnom Penh is hardly developed. No freeways, hardly any traffic lights, cars low, motorcycles high. Tuks Tuks have very low power compared to Bangkok but you can get a better price. Taxis are very low also. SIM bought at airport was a scam. I wanted just Data. It functioned in the airport but no where else that I noticed it working. Spend money in US dollars with any change less than 1 US dollar being in Riel, where I gathered was like 45000 Riel = US$1.

Hotel De Art tried to look arty but some basic errors. Bedside light is almost falling off, wires hanging out, and doesn't really work. Electric jug has Europe plug but Sockets are U.K. Only place could plug it in was at beside multi purpose socket. Be prepared with all types of socket adapters. The restaurant served a soggy burger and the ketchup was a strange brown transparent colour and did not taste at all like tomatoes, faintly vinegar, and non descript.

Many girls faces have dingy dirty coloured look, very bland. The better looking girls with a different tan do not look very Thai, perhaps slightly like Buriram girls, even more different to Thai looks than Indonesian and Filippina girls, to my eye.

In the bars, it's pretty much half of Bangkok prices, for drinks, BFs, ST, etc. , was my impression.

I looked at some bars in 104 road / street. Most had ugly girls. "One Zero Four" bar had a lot of girls probably 20 at the time. Mamasan says 35 work there. Much better looking than the other places I had a peak in. However quite a few were having tummies. Mamasan assured me that there were no surgeries girls at all, although some tits looked very suspicious to me, could have been a push-up job I guess.

Took a long time for any girl to really stand out. When I saw A-keo, she was clearly much prettier and very good body with luscious looking tits partly covered. Tan skin, nose cute and small but slightly too broad as normal for Cambodian.

Was just my bad luck turned out she was a 2nd day newbie, and very nervous and shy. I hoped a few leg opener drinks would work wonders, but not really. No way was she going to go for a fuck. Would not even sit in the bar leaning against me or even touching. She admitted to having a baby but would not say how recently. Could be her tits still have milk. Spoke English a bit, and admitted a past BF had taken her to Bangkok and Pattaya. She could work in a top Thai bar and get customers easily despite the tan skin, as just looked classy and pretty. Very nice girl but she was just not yet getting into hooker mode. So she has to live on drinks alone for the moment. Mamasan felt so sorry for me. LOL I was getting on much more famously with the mamasan but she was too fat for me.

Banana Boi
05-15-17, 08:36
Would not even sit in the bar leaning against me or even touching. Hopefully you moved on quickly from her. Except for one horrible girl at Loco every single bar girl in PP will let you grope them to your desire and DFK them for a lady drink, at least from my experience. Bar 104 is one of the more tamer bars though.


45000 Riel = US$1.4,000.


SIM bought at airport was a scam. I wanted just Data. It functioned in the airport but no where else that I noticed it working. Metfone or bust.


I was getting on much more famously with the mamasan but she was too fat for me.The mamasans at Bar 104 are pretty cool.

RonnieMonger
05-19-17, 15:58
It is OK by Cambo standards. Not the big selection it once had. Anything similar particularly with VN girls?

Pana Nyc
05-22-17, 22:27
What's up fellas looking to do Phnom Penh for 3 nights and I wanted to know what 4-5 Star hotels are girl friendly would anyone recommend out there?

Member #4698
05-23-17, 00:37
I recommend the Himawari, the Amanjaya Pancam, and the Sofitel in the 4 to 5 star girl friendly hotel category. The Himawari because I like their large rooms and great swimming pool. The Amanjaya because it is a real nice boutique hotel close to all the hostess bars and has very nice rooms with balconies and a touch of class, but sadly no pool. And the Sofitel because it is new and above the rest, but also the most expensive on this list.

I have stayed at the Himawari (deluxe suite w / bfst) for around $92 and the Amanjaya (Panoramic suite w / bfst) for $95. See if you can find rates like these on Agoda or Expedia. I have not stayed at the Sofitel Phnom Penh, but I did stay at the Sofitel Siem Reap and it was great, so one day I might just try the Sofitel Phnom for a change and a little bit of luxury. The best rate I have seen for the Phnom Sofitel was around $135. The only downside I see with this hotel besides the price is its location, but that might be an asset in disguise because it's location opens up new possibilities in Phnom Penh that you might not otherwise check out. Ha Ha. And besides its only a tuk tuk ride away from all the usual places you might want to go.

I can confirm that these 3 hotels above are all girl friendly most especially the Amanjaya. They don't bat an eye when you take a girl or girls up to your room. The Himawari security guy sometimes requests a girl's ID and sometimes he does not, but he was always cordial and respectful to me in either case and my girls were always allowed entry at no additional cost. Just book your reservation for two wherever you decide to stay.

Take note: a Hyatt Regency is under construction right across the street from the National Museum. Talk about the changing skyline of Phnom Penh. Wow - not good IMHO. But that high rise hotel will not be ready for occupancy until sometime in 2020.

AskeAske
06-02-17, 10:39
Do any one know if Sarys Guesthouse is closed? It is on street 130, close to Loco Bar.

Their home page is closed and they are not on www.booking.com.

Eszpresszo
06-03-17, 06:33
Interesting to read about the demise of PP bars. I used to monger in Changping in its heydays and the crackdown ended that in a hurry. Was a place in its heyday with a lot of very pretty girls, heaps of KTVs and bars. Same in Beijing when Maggies bar was at its peak was the best bar for Mongolian girls. China is dead now for our hobby.Question for veteran mongers: in these cases, have you ever witnessed what is called "reversion to the mean" in destinations you have visited? I am always reading reports about crackdowns, and MSM stories that report them after the fact. But, politicians come and go. And news gets old. And maybe the action moves elsewhere, though not always far. Sometimes nefarious activities are allowed to resume, albeit quietly. Some Vblogger made the comment that in Cambodia it is always one step forward followed another step backwards. Any attempt to make "progress" in one direction is eventually undermined by internal politics and things end up back to to the way they were. Comments?

Rick Rock
06-05-17, 10:28
The times of the 10-20-30 dollar FS activities seem to be long gone by now. But as it is always fun in PP, I have to go back soon.In the local $3 massage places a lot of women will do FS for $10-30. Thirty is actually on the high side. $3 massage price included.

In the 5 fish bowl places including on the one on 252 often mentioned here the price is $30-40.

At Cyrcee price is $30, but there is a bar fine and cost of hotel to add on.

Of course these places aren't found on the Riverside and the women in them often start out by quoting high prices to foreigners. But these are the usual prices paid by most customers.


The better looking girls with a different tan do not look very Thai, perhaps slightly like Buriram girlsThat would make sense since Buriram is home to many of the 1. 4 million ethnic Khmer in Thailand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Khmer_people.

AskeAske
06-05-17, 16:37
In the local $3 massage places a lot of women will do FS for $10-30. Thirty is actually on the high side. $3 massage price included.

In the 5 fish bowl places including on the one on 252 often mentioned here the price is $30-40.

At Cyrcee price is $30, but there is a bar fine and cost of hotel to add on.

Of course these places aren't found on the Riverside and the women in them often start out by quoting high prices to foreigners. But these are the usual prices paid by most customers.

That would make sense since Buriram is home to many of the 1. 4 million ethnic Khmer in Thailand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Khmer_people.Yes. You can still find FS for low prices in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh most bargirls will go with you for 30 or 40 dollar + BF. Very easy to find massagegirl who come to your hotel after work for 20 or 30 dollar. No BF.

In Sihanoukville the same.

But of course if it is your first visit and the girls know that, they try to get more.

All this for LT. I never ask for ST.

Eszpresszo
06-05-17, 17:30
Yes. You can still find FS for low prices in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh most bargirls will go with you for 30 or 40 dollar + BF. Very easy to find massagegirl who come to your hotel after work for 20 or 30 dollar. No BF.

In Sihanoukville the same.

But of course if it is your first visit and the girls know that, they try to get more.

All this for LT. I never ask for ST.Glad to hear these are prices for LT. But another question I have: where is there to monger at besides PP and Sihanoukville, where the pricing is more "local". Both have been cited as being very fun places. Siem Riep is said to be overpriced. I am expecting one would need to get off the beaten path and find out for himself, but I have to wonder if Cambodia has other destinations beyond the popular three cities I just mentioned.

Banana Boi
06-05-17, 21:57
In the local $3 massage places a lot of women will do FS for $10-30. Thirty is actually on the high side. $3 massage price included.

In the 5 fish bowl places including on the one on 252 often mentioned here the price is $30-40.
If you don't mind, can you be more specific on where these places are or the names of the places so I can Google map them. Is the place on 252 named 252 massage? Will be heading back to PP for my next Thailand Visa run. PM is fine as well. Thank you.

Axiata
06-07-17, 11:56
Question for veteran mongers: in these cases, have you ever witnessed what is called "reversion to the mean" in destinations you have visited? I am always reading reports about crackdowns, and MSM stories that report them after the fact. But, politicians come and go. And news gets old. And maybe the action moves elsewhere, though not always far. Sometimes nefarious activities are allowed to resume, albeit quietly. Some Vblogger made the comment that in Cambodia it is always one step forward followed another step backwards. Any attempt to make "progress" in one direction is eventually undermined by internal politics and things end up back to to the way they were. Comments?I have not been back to China for a few years but my colleagues tell me that Maggies is back in action but super expensive compared to the past. Prices are over the top. Getting any p4 p action costs a lot in China these days so they do not bother and take trips to AC, PP and Pattaya. My understanding is that the KTV scene is also truly dead and buried and the only action up is via online. China is a thing of the past.

So I suspect that the reversion back is not going to happen there. I am sure over time PP will also become more sterile but how long that takes is anyone's guess. For now PP still has some cheap and very nice girls to sample.

Happy Hunting.

Titleist19
06-22-17, 16:25
I was in PP about 3 weeks ago for 2 nights, I did not have time to hit up everything but will report on what I did manage to see. I stayed at Vacation Boutique Hotel for about $35 USD per night, great hotel, really nice rooms and showers, the smoking room with a balcony came with robes and great air conditioning. The only drawback is there is no elevator so it is a bit of a pain getting up and down the stairs, but probably one of the best hotels I've stayed in for that price.

Day 1:

During the day I went to 2 fishbowl style massage places. First was Mean Haur hotel, located at the NW corner of intersection St. 122 and St. 221. I went at around 4 or 5 pm and there was about 18 girls to choose from. Viets have a green badge and Cambos have a red badge. There was only 1 Viet. The talent wasn't all that great, the majority of them older and they looked quite happy they had a customer as I was the only one there. I stood there for a few minutes but could not get excited about the lineup and left. You have to pay $10 for massage and then negotiate with the girl while in the room. Did not partake.

Went over to Massa 252, located NW of the Independence Monument on St 252. Here the lineup was similar to Mean Haur with a few Viets and the rest Cambos. Probably about 12 girls, but there were other customers around and seemed more popular than Mean Haur. I ended up taking a Cambo girl whose name escapes me. They charged $15 for massage, which I thought was pricey, rooms were quite basic but had a shower (or hose). In the room, massage was crap, and she offered extras. Asked me $80 for boom boom and $60 for a BJ. I quickly said no to those levels and it seemed she did not want to come down from her initial offer. I held me ground and low balled her for $20ST. We sat there for 30 minutes and could not come to an agreement, throughout all this I was playful and joking around with her, but I know prices aren't that high. After 30 mins of bargaining, which really just killed the mood, she finally came down to 40, which I still thought was really high but caved as it had been a long day. Honestly, if she didn't come down in price I was ready to just sit there to wind down my hour because it was raining. BBBJ was pretty good and we had a decent session (very tight) before heading to the showers. She was quite sexy and playful but for the life of me I can't remember her name. For those of you who said I paid too much, yes you are correct, how on earth you get girls for cheaper than that I applaud you. 30 straight, no fun, minutes of bargaining. 30!

Hit up the bars on 104 at night. The best I found was Oscars as it had the best looking girls. In particular, Aka and Aga, cousins whom I bought drinks for. Aka was really hot and Aga was the cuter of the two, super super tiny, looked a little [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902). I was chatting with Aka, and was introduced to her mother (who also works at the bar, I almost spit my drink out. The family affair will be a recurring theme. Played pool with the girls and after we sat down, found out that Aka does not barfine, and since I had showed so much interest in her, Aga wasn't quite as receptive. Again, my mistake as I should've immediately found out if Aka will BF. I've learned that if the girl isn't giving you a good vibe, than don't BF her no matter how good she looks. So I walked away empty handed. Went to a few more bars on 136 but nothing really noteworthy and retired.

Day2:

Hit up the markets and Golden Soriya mall. At GS mall, there's a few restaurants opposite a few of the girly bars where girls hang out during the day. Played pool with a few of them, generally just enjoying the relaxed atmosphere. The girl I was playing pool with, introduced me to her brother and we had a few games of pool. It was a bit odd as clearly I wasn't interested in the brother LOL. Around 7 pm I walked across the street to Plan be bar. 3 girls immediately latch onto me, all quite good looking and young. Turned to the best looking one and asked immediately if she BF'D and she said yes. OK you get a lady drink. Had a good time with her in the bar, playing pool, and joking around. Then it was bargain time. 45 minutes of bargaining! 45! I remained playful and all smiles the whole time, but she started out at $60ST and $100 LT, WTF. Thought PP was suppose to be cheap. My final bid was $35ST and $45 LT with a $5 tip if she was really fantastic. She debated this bid for like 15 minutes. Asked all the other girls in the bar if she should go with me LOL. In the end she accepted, thank god, it was a tug of war for a long time, its not exactly how I want things to start out. All the girls at the bar told me she never went for that low, no idea what to believe. Anyways, back in the room, we showered separately (no big deal) and I gave her a robe a note on this, if your room has robes give her one, she'll really appreciate it as most of the girls are shy right out of the shower (in most SE Asian countries) and it'll really warm and soften her up, I've tried this tactic mongering across 5 cities and it never fails. She was total GFE and treated me really well. BBBJ and pretty much good with everything other than anal, no CIM though but didn't ask. Total sweetheart. Shot 4 x and she wanted to stay, seemed like she wanted to stay all day, but I had a flight to catch and had to kick her out at noon. Exchanged contact with her and she still messages me.

So my thoughts to wrap up. PP is a little hit and miss. Its wise to find out if the girl BF's quickly, even before you buy her a lady drink if you can. I felt like each place I went it was never a sure thing, so point and click folks may not like the scene. I wish I had another night to go check Pontoon club because I love picking up freelancers. One thing I did read was that Cambo girls don't like giving BJ's, but also read that its really cheap this was opposite of what I found. I don't think I did particularly well at Massa ($40ST) but OK with the bargirl ($50 LT, 15 hours and 4 shots). Maybe others can chime in with prices, both girls were about 22 or 23.

ItIsMe83
06-23-17, 23:07
Nice report Titleist19!

I am going to Phnom first time late July / early August. Now I booked the Sun&Moon hotel. I saw it first on one of those 'girlfriendly hotel' websites. Got good review there so I checked tripdvisor etc. Where it got nice reviews as well plus I liked the rooms / and look of it all.

However I just saw one of the bangkok112 vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI7bfm2gCLI at 06:30 it states it's not girlfriendly and a 10 $ fee applies for a guest. Anyone stayed recently and can fill me in on it?

Looking forward to the visit.

Rick Rock
06-24-17, 07:04
In Cambodia and Vietnam if you don't know the going rate they will ask for whatever they think they can get from you.

There is no place called "massa" in Phnom Penh. That's the way Khmer people say massage. The place on Street 252 is called "252 Massage". There's even a big sign in front of the place in English.

The house fee at 252 Massage is $7. It's not 10 or 15, but if you volunteer they will gladly take the extra money. If you ask what the price is in English they will probably make something up based on what they think they can get from you.

Local guys, Chinese, Japanese and Western expats who speak the language pay 30-50 to the girls. Tourists pay whatever the girls can get out of them.

Other fish bowls in the city charge $6-8. Only one charges 10, and that's in Luxury World. But again, most places will ask whatever they think they can get out of people. That's how it works in this part of the world.

MayBee1632
06-24-17, 19:02
I agree with Rick, been there many times, and price fluctuates with your ability to haggle.

I don't post much here, as I don't get there as often as I like. On that note, will be in Siem Reap, Phnom Penh and maybe Sihanoukville. Have set up some dares already, but would like to meet up and have a beer with some members!

Meo Den
06-25-17, 13:53
The house fee at 252 Massage is $7. It's not 10 or 15, but if you volunteer they will gladly take the extra money. If you ask what the price is in English they will probably make something up based on what they think they can get from you.I've posted this information more than once: it has just been ignored.

Another point that should be made is that if a punter agrees to pay $10 or $15 for the room it's no wonder the girl will try to hold out for a ridiculous amount for herself.

As to current prices, I have heard of people paying $30 or more, even $80, but they perform perfectly well for the $25 that I give them, price current as of today when I got excellent service 'from soup to nuts' you might say.

Uncle Volodya
06-25-17, 21:59
I was in PP about 3 weeks ago for 2 nights, I did not have time to hit up everything but will report on what I did manage to see. I stayed at Vacation Boutique Hotel for about $35 USD per night, great hotel, really nice rooms and showers, the smoking room with a balcony came with robes and great air conditioning. The only drawback is there is no elevator so it is a bit of a pain getting up and down the stairs, but probably one of the best hotels I've stayed in for that price.

That's a good deal with the Hotel. I've stayed at Riverside Suites and Grand Mekong and paid a lot more.

Rooms look nice too. And I take it form your report its girl friendly. No hassles bring girls up to your loom?

Banana Boi
06-27-17, 06:30
Anyone know if Point Boutique Hotel on Street 130 is girl friendly with no joiner fee?

Titleist19
06-28-17, 14:42
That's a good deal with the Hotel. I've stayed at Riverside Suites and Grand Mekong and paid a lot more.

Rooms look nice too. And I take it form your report its girl friendly. No hassles bring girls up to your loom?Apologies for the delay in responding. I usually write a report and then forget that I ever did. No issues with bringing girls up in vacation boutique hotel, though admittedly I did get a small discount on the room as I frequently book through agoda and it was on promotion. I think the regular rate for that room is $40 per night.

Thanks to the others for the info on the massage fee. However, when I went there were signs clearly posted at each. At mean hour, massage was $10 and the sign was posted on the right wall as you enter the lineup room. At 252 the sign was on the reception counter. I saw both these signs as I walked in. Though if you are saying that I can pay $7 and just ignore the sign than I will try that next time.

Meo Den
06-29-17, 04:25
At 252 the sign was on the reception counter. I saw both these signs as I walked in. Though if you are saying that I can pay $7 and just ignore the sign than I will try that next time.I have never seen a sign at 252. Is it possible that some punters are taking tukuks there and the driver is calling ahead to get commission, then the staff quickly stick a bogus sign on the desk?

As with any other purchase in SEA, just let them know that you know the price, flinch if they ask for more and after politely giving them the opportunity to climb down walk if necessary.

As to getting a lower price next time, the main benefit of getting it right the first time is that is that generally you will always pay the same thereafter.

The issue here, and the issue with the scene in Cambodia, is that these women are not remotely worth more than around $7+25. I completely understand guys paying $50 for great service from stunners but that is not what we are talking about here. And $7 for that quality of st room is more than enough.

Tryntry
06-29-17, 15:29
Anyone know if Point Boutique Hotel on Street 130 is girl friendly with no joiner fee?Yes, girl friendly, nice hotel. But when I was there last year, I saw cockroaches in the bathroom as they are entering from the drain.

Hope they have addressed that since.

DocInHeat
06-29-17, 22:08
First night of two in Phnom Penh and arrived at NagaWorld at midnight. No time to go anywhere but Darlin' Darlin' and so I did. Yes, the place was hopping and crowded, perhaps 50% Cambodian guys and the rest foreigners. I spent some time talking and drinking with a few Australians and a Canadian. They all say that yes, this is the most expensive place in PP, but the girls are the prettiest.

And the girls are definitely very pretty. After an hour talking with the guys and looking, I started getting serious and made a few quick walks through the place to try to get some targets. After a couple misses, I settled on Ah Ching. She was very pretty, very thin Cambodian girl with a big smile on her face, which was what attracted me to her. Besides that model figure. We talked and drank and then had some negotiations outside; though the band was solid they were way too loud (and occasionally horribly off key! She wouldn't budge on $150 LT and I was ok with that.

Upstairs, she was great at first. We had great introduction making out and then showered separately and then more bedtime activity with her giving me a solid BBBJ. She covered me up with one of the rubbers I brought and then got on board with some nice riding and then I got on top and then finally finished with a doggie bang. I was tired and we slept. Though she did mention that her grandfather was sick in the hospital and would I like to go visit him with her? What now? Yes, she said. NO, I said! It was kind of funny, but also a little annoying.

So we went to sleep and then I woke up early of course because of jet lag and she was sound asleep. So I kind of puttered around reading emaisl on my phone and then napped and when I woke up an hour later, I was starving and she was still sleeping. So I got up and then started doing some real work on my laptop and then when I couldn't stand it, I decided I had to eat breakfast, especially since the buffet would close in half an hour. But what to do? I didn't want to leave her in my room with all my stuff. Yeah, all the real valuables and money were in the safe, but a lot of other stuff was available for the taking. Finally, I came up with the brilliant plan (if I do say so myself) to put her clothes in the safe! And so I did. Had a good breakfast and came up and she was still sound asleep! More and more I made more noise and even shook her gently, all to no avail!! So I opened the curtains and started back again to catch up on work. For several hours! Finally it was almost 2 and I had it. I was no longer even wanting to get one more morning shot in; hell it was even morning anymore. So I started shaking her again and she finally started waking up more; especially when I told her it was 2 pm. She started asking about a tip or a present (my spare portable phone battery) and I almost blew up. No morning sex and the inconvenience of her sleeping so late and she had the audacity to ask for extra. Pretty funny now, but I wasn't too happy then.

Banana Boi
06-30-17, 00:31
But what to do? I didn't want to leave her in my room with all my stuff. Yeah, all the real valuables and money were in the safe, but a lot of other stuff was available for the taking. Finally, I came up with the brilliant plan (if I do say so myself) to put her clothes in the safe! And so I did. Had a good breakfast and came up and she was still sound asleep! OMG awesome.


Yes, girl friendly, nice hotel. But when I was there last year, I saw cockroaches in the bathroom as they are entering from the drain.

Hope they have addressed that since.

WTF. This hotel looks nice and the reviews are amazing. One of the highest rated hotels in the area on all sites. Maybe I'll double book for a night and check it out.

Forever69
06-30-17, 04:59
First night of two in Phnom Penh and arrived at NagaWorld at midnight. No time to go anywhere but Darlin' Darlin' and so I did. Pontoon is open til 3 and then pontoon vibe around the corner til 6 I think. Pontoon vibe is much like thermae bkk and you will find many darlin darlings there for less. I was there 3 weeks ago and was surprised at the amount of poon I saw.

Gmsboi
06-30-17, 15:40
After a couple misfiring and spending girl drinks on the ones that do not barfine I decided to check Rose bar. I came across 104 (diagonally opposite to Rose bar). Decided to go with Nana (Cambodian) thin 25 yr old.

She started with $100 for LT for which I immediately countered with $30. She agrees on $40 LT. Made sure she carried her ID and stated that payment would be made before her departure.

Cost: $10 barfine+$10 her and mine drink + $40 For LT.

Name: Nana.

Age: 25.

Boobs: B cup.

Body: thin, light Bush and tight pussy.

She was cooperative and left only after 10 in the morning.

Banana Boi
06-30-17, 20:16
She started with $100 for LT for which I immediately countered with $30. She agrees on $40 LT. <snip> She was cooperative and left only after 10 in the morning.Good work. I'm definitely overpaying at 104 bar. Need to readjust on my next trip. No wonder my girls love me so much and will leave any customer when they see me.

Titanio
06-30-17, 22:23
After a couple misfiring and spending girl drinks on the ones that do not barfine I decided to check Rose bar. I came across 104 (diagonally opposite to Rose bar). Decided to go with Nana (Cambodian) thin 25 yr old.

She started with $100 for LT for which I immediately countered with $30. She agrees on $40 LT. Made sure she carried her ID and stated that payment would be made before her departure.

Cost: $10 barfine+$10 her and mine drink + $40 For LT.

Name: Nana.

Age: 25.

Boobs: B cup.

Body: thin, light Bush and tight pussy.

She was cooperative and left only after 10 in the morning.That is a bargain at Rose Bar. Normally they do not come down to under 60 $. But again, 10 $ for 2 drinks? I don't like Rose Bar, very pushing. 104 bar is more relaxed to me, same as Oskar. It is already almost a year ago I was there but now and the old days you just told the girls to get upstairs and for sure no one else was going upstairs within the next hour. No idea what the quality of the Bunny's bar is nowadays but that was always fun on the couches in the back of the bar. I never experience that much from a first visit, but when returning the night after as a returning customer it is a different world.

DocInHeat
07-01-17, 18:10
Had a great 4-hands massage at Naga World and it was very great and at the end, there was definitely was some attempt at getting my little guy to wake up by brushing up and down and all around with grabbing him directly. But me and my little guy were a little tired and we both knew we had a full night ahead of us.

Went to Darlin' Darlin' and immediately noticed a stunner who had some European genes mixed in to her tight Khmer package. I stupidly decided to get my beer first at the bar before walking over. What was I thinking? By the time I got my bar and turned back to walk to her, someone else was talking to her. What an idiot I am? Where were my priorities?

So I sat around downing Tigers and pining away as I saw the girl entertain this guy and his friends, but I knew she would have been much happier with me! Finally after some time, the cutest little Khmer girl came next to me at the bar. She had a tight little dress that outlines ther very nice curves and had cornrows-rarely see this in Asian girls. This time I didn't hesitate and I immediately offered to buy her a drink. She mentioned that she was looking for a friend, but accepted. Apparently, she usually goes to Pontoon, but her friend convinced her to meet together at DD. That was fine with me as we chatted awhile, but finally her friend came and they quickly decided to move onward into the night and asked me to join them. I was a little hesitant-who knew where they were going to take me, but I decided I'd see some more of the city at night. She first drove us to Epic. This looked like a pretty hip club, but it was a little slow and the girls (there were now a total of 4 in the car) didn't like the fact that most of the guys there were Khmer. So we moved on to Pontoon. This is a combination of 3 clubs, 1 of which was closed. This also was pretty slow, but the girls decided to stay-one of them had a leftover bottle of Chivas saved, so I bought all the mixers and food for everyone and sure enough, it became pretty full with a wild mix of locals, expats and WG.

But soon enough, I was interested in some more fun activities and my friend and I headed out. Got back to Naga and lifted up this tiny girl for some kisses and quick visits to the shower for the both of us. This tiny girl had a tight, little, rockin' body that I had squeeze and kiss all over and she returned the attention. Then she pushed me back for a great BBBJ. Then she asked for the condom, put it on and got on top. After some gymnastics moves, she told me to get on top and I said no. Instead, without pulling out, I got to the edge of the bed and stood up with me still in her. Now I did a little workout, doing curls lifting her up and down onto me in front of the mirror. This was great, and she seemed to be into it, but I decided to move back to the bed and commenced onward to a variety of different positions and a big finish. We were both beat and after my experiences with the girl who wouldn't wake up the night before, I let her go for this great ST visit.

Doc.

Banana Boi
07-01-17, 18:16
Prices for the massage at Naga and ST with the DD girl?

BlueBaron
07-01-17, 20:09
Great reports, DocInHeaat! Thanks very much. I also want to know the DD prices. You should go back and try to meet that same Euro looking girl you spotted again.

DocInHeat
07-01-17, 23:15
Prices for the massage at Naga and ST with the DD girl?The massage was 2 hours 4-hand with salt scrub and oil massage. It was around $65 and the masseuses were fully clothed. I came mainly for legit massage since I was a hotel guest.

The DD girl ST price was $100 and I didn't negotiate, since that's what I mainly saw posted here.

I only had 2 free nights in PP before I had to start work, so I didn't explore too much and just stayed at Naga World. Next time, I'm going to do more!

Doc.

Member #4698
07-02-17, 15:52
The DD girl ST price was $100 and I didn't negotiate, since that's what I mainly saw posted here.

I only had 2 free nights in PP before I had to start work, so I didn't explore too much and just stayed at Naga World. Next time, I'm going to do more! Doc.Sounds like you had a pretty good time in Phnom Penh. I have three comments that relate to your experiences with DD girls:

1. $100 for ST has been the price the girls have asked for a long time. It's standard and I wouldn't try to negotiate them down. As many have noted, many of these same girls show up at Pontoon later in the night, so if you are willing to wait and take your chances you will find the same girl later, then go for it. I will stick with the bird in the hand concept.

2. I have never had a bad time with a DD girl and a number of them have been outstanding. What I have found is that when the 1st night goes really well (a ST or a voluntary overnight extension), the girl will always want to see me again, so we exchange Line accounts yada yada yada and begin chatting. On ALL (100%) of my follow up 2nd times with these girls, they voluntarily (no negotiation, no suggestion on my part) spend the whole night with me, never, never ask for more money, and they usually throw in a couple of extras, if you know what I mean, ha ha, like bareback, so the GFE green light is turned on bright.

3. In general, no matter what country I am mongering in, except the AC, Philippines, I only want to do a ST with a girl on our first night. If things are really good, then longer times are easily be arranged. And that is how Natty Bumpo almost always gets his desired modified ST (3 to 5 hours) with his repeat girls with little or no effort and no extra costs except drinks and food. Modified ST is not for everybody. Some guys like shag and leave. Some guys prefer LT. But I like modified ST because it creates the illusion reality of a night out on the town ie a date - again that GFE thing. LT is only good for me if I really, really like the girl and there are fewer opportunities in the daytime.

Muzungufotsy
07-02-17, 16:29
The massage was 2 hours 4-hand with salt scrub and oil massage. It was around $65 and the masseuses were fully clothed. I came mainly for legit massage since I was a hotel guest.

The DD girl ST price was $100 and I didn't negotiate, since that's what I mainly saw posted here.

I only had 2 free nights in PP before I had to start work, so I didn't explore too much and just stayed at Naga World. Next time, I'm going to do more!

Doc.100 $ for a ST with a khmer girl? WTF? You have a pic of this girl? Are khmer pussies in gold these days?

BlueBaron
07-02-17, 18:15
What time do the DD girls tend to show up at Pontoon?

Natty Bumpo, you say that is your M. O. Everywhere except Angeles City? Why is it different for there?

I also like a long ST, not a LT. But maybe 2 or 3 hrs, more than that and start to feel trapped, wish I was alone again to relax more, maybe go out and buy snacks, watch something on cable tv alone. I hate lying there while she watches some Khmer music videos or whatnot. And only have her there longer time so I can get in another round. Not keen on dinner or anything with her, prefer just my own company for that.

SockBoy50
07-02-17, 18:22
Does nagaworld charge a fee for bringing glas to the room. As ahardcore mongerer would this hotel make me feel comfy or would it be a hinderance?

Forever69
07-03-17, 03:24
I hate lying there while she watches some Khmer music videos or whatnot. And only have her there longer time so I can get in another round. Not keen on dinner or anything with her, prefer just my own company for that.Take the remote control and change the channel, if she's hungry give her 2 bucks and send her to a street stall. Don't import your meek habits here. You're the man. You rule. This is asia.

DocInHeat
07-03-17, 05:05
100 $ for a ST with a khmer girl? WTF? You have a pic of this girl? Are khmer pussies in gold these days?When I look at the posts, that seemed to be the going rate at DD these days, and since I was staying at Naga, it was convenient. And she was very pretty. If I was in PP longer, I would take my time and go to other places and negotiate more. This time, I took the expensive, sure thing, option.

Doc.

DocInHeat
07-03-17, 05:07
Does nagaworld charge a fee for bringing glas to the room. As ahardcore mongerer would this hotel make me feel comfy or would it be a hinderance?No fees for bringing her to your room! For mongering, not a problem. The biggest problem for me was 1) should I gamble or should I be spending time with the girls, 2 of my favorite activities and 2) there are NO non-smoking rooms.

Member #4698
07-03-17, 13:10
What time do the DD girls tend to show up at Pontoon?

Natty Bumpo, you say that is your M. O. Everywhere except Angeles City? Why is it different for there?
Pontoon: the action starts at 12, and gets better and better from 1 am to 3 am as the bar girls begin to arrive.

My strategy in Phnom Penh is threefold. 1. I like to spend some time in the hostess bars early in the evening say from 8:30 to 11 pm flirting and drinking with some of the girls. If I meet Ms Right my search is over and I take her back to my hotel. 2. If by 11 pm nothing substantive has happened in the hostess bars then I head over to Darling Darling at Naga World. The good thing about Darling Darling is its a sure thing. Every girl there wants to get picked up. There are no buy me drink girls. There is no barfine. You don't even need to buy these girls a drink. They are sipping on one already. 3. But once in a rare while I feel like making it a late night, so I will postpone my gratification on purpose and go to Pontoon after midnight. Like I said above, by 1 am to 1:30 in the morning Pontoon is in full gear and it really does not begin to slow down until after 3am.

AC is different because the default takeout is LT. This is slowly changing now, but in the good old days take out was always LT. They even had a different word for a barfine. It was called EWR (early work release) and it was all incliusive (barfine + sexual service). A punter pays the bar, not the girl and then he has her for the rest of the night and morning. Even now many AC girls don't want to leave until late morning (11am to noon). I have not been back to AC since 2015 when I met my two favorite Makati girls, but I have a lot of fond memories of AC. I fell in love there many times, 555.

BlueBaron
07-03-17, 17:35
Take the remote control and change the channel, if she's hungry give her 2 bucks and send her to a street stall. Don't import your meek habits here. You're the man. You rule. This is asia.Nah it isn't that. I don't want to watch something with her. If there is something on that I like, she would just be a distraction and I'd enjoy watching it less. It's more that after the deed, I have this urge to be alone, to have the girl gone. And I don't' want to have dinner with her, hang out with her, nothing. The typical situation is, I spot her in a bar and immediately feel the urge to be in bed with her. So I keep moving toward that. When that's been done, well, I don't want that any more, at least not right away, and actually I do get this feeling of wanting to be on my own, just totally relax channel surfing, snacking, etc. Alone.

I used to like overnight, look forward to 2nd go in the morning, but over time it got to feel not worth it. Don't sleep soundly when I'm with a hooker.

BlueBaron
07-03-17, 17:41
Pontoon: the action starts at 12, and gets better and better from 1 am to 3 am as the bar girls begin to arrive. Thanks for that thorough reply. Very helpful.

So are there fairly standard rates at Pontoon these days? What might one of those DD girls charge later at Pontoon?

If you take them at DD for $100, is that ST or LT?

Been a few years since I've been back to PP.

SockBoy50
07-03-17, 22:34
Staying at Sundance in. Lets meet up and have a beer. Quick question. Do the massage girls int the parlors charge less for st and LT and are there some cuties to be found in the massas?

Gmsboi
07-04-17, 16:17
Good work. I'm definitely overpaying at 104 bar. Need to readjust on my next trip. No wonder my girls love me so much and will leave any customer when they see me.Have fun cheers.

LifeIsABeach
07-06-17, 04:14
Thanks for that thorough reply. Very helpful. So are there fairly standard rates at Pontoon these days? What might one of those DD girls charge later at Pontoon? If you take them at DD for $100, is that ST or LT? Been a few years since I've been back to PP.If you pay usd 100.00 for ST or LT, you are being taken for a ride and not the other way around. Read the posts and you will find the rates.

Member #4698
07-06-17, 04:40
If you pay usd 100.00 for ST or LT, you are being taken for a ride and not the other way around. Read the posts and you will find the rates.Bull! Do you live in Phnom Penh? Do you speak Khmer? Are you good looking and under 30? If not then you don't know what you are talking about. The price in Darling Darling for a DD FL is $100 period unless you have answered yes to one of the three questions I just posed. Expats and good looking young men do have privileges. Otherwise waiting until 3 am for the same girl at half the price is not the same as picking her up at 11. Time is money. You ought to know that.

Now if you believe girls are fungible or looks don't matter, then I can understand your objection to giving any Phnom Penh girl $100 when $25 to $30 will do crosstown. But, the subject was; what do Darling Darling FL's cost, not anything else and as for Darling Darling; every night I have been there, that place was packed with paying customers (90% of customers are NE Asians and I guess some local hot shots) and girls. It is usually standing room only and definitely another world compared to the hostess bars and brothels you are probably referring to.

Everything is relative. When I was a young man and travelling around the CR, Colombia and Brazil, I never paid for sex. Never! I used to think that guys that paid for sex were suckers. What did I know? The girls all gave it to me free, but I did have to wait for closing time at their bars and meet them down the block, so nobody they knew from the bar would see us together. Not much has changed since then except I have gotten older, I do not usually like to wait until 3am to get my rocks off, and it is now much easier, thank Buddha, to just pay for what I want, where and when I want it.

Oh yeah, one more thing; I was around Phnom in the good old days and I intimately know what the girls used to be like then and what they cost back in '02 all the way up to '09 before the bar raids changed everything. I used to think Phnom was way better than BKK. I do not think so anymore, but I still like the place. My point is it is not 2002. Nothing will ever bring back "up to you" prices and "up to you" time. Phnom today is what it is. Get used to it.

Wendella
07-06-17, 08:12
Bull! Yes actually I'm interested in the idea of grabbing a stunner, hopefully earlier than 1 am. I did look through the forum and see that the DD price for LT is more like $150 (is that correct?

Another good thing would be to see what these girls DD actually look like, something the forum isn't especiall good at. Long time ago I was in Martini one night and there was one Viet stunner dancing away with her girlfriend. I danced over and tried to make some contact but was brushed off, and I saw her dance away for the whole time unwilling to talk to any guys, just there for her dancing I guess. She was tall, slim, pale skinned, beautiful, deiicious body, made up like a model, just a huge difference between her and any other girl there. In fact I never saw a more gorgeous girl in Cambodia or Vietnam.

It sounds like Pontoon has turned into what Martini used to be, but with double or triple the price. No more $20 LT.

D Cups
07-06-17, 15:22
Hi Natty,

I've been reading all your recent posts about your travels. If I understand you correctly the two best places in terms of overall quality and lower price are are still PI and Indonesia, right? It appears Thailand and Cambodia have gotten as expensive as Vietnam (which I no longer go to because they all want minimum $100/ night now). Even Burma has gotten more expensive. In contrast I can still go to Dominican Republic for some real fine snatch and giant boobs for about $50/ night. By the way clear out your inbox.

Cheers.


I used to think Phnom was way better than BKK. I do not think so anymore, but I still like the place. M

Member #4698
07-06-17, 19:02
Hi Natty,

I've been reading all your recent posts about your travels. If I understand you correctly the two best places in terms of overall quality and lower price are are still PI and Indonesia, right? It appears Thailand and Cambodia have gotten as expensive as Vietnam (which I no longer go to because they all want minimum $100/ night now). Even Burma has gotten more expensive. In contrast I can still go to Dominican Republic for some real fine snatch and giant boobs for about $50/ night. By the way clear out your inbox.

Cheers.Hi DCups, I think everywhere has seen a rise in prices over the last 5 to 10 years. I still like Thailand and BKK in particular because I like the girls and the country has everything I need; lots of girls, venues, great food, culture when I want it, well priced hotels and lodging in every category, AND it's relatively safe.

Jakarta has been my great new discovery over the last 4 years. Jakarta girls really blow me away; they are so sexy and attractive, amply breasted (ha ha), and they have really great personalities. Who knew? I wished I had known 10 years ago when prices were much more reasonable. Today Jakarta can be very expensive. The 4 and 5 star hotels are 25% more expensive than comparable BKK hotels and the local girls in the top brothels cost anywhere from 900,00 rp ($67) to 2,000,000 rp ($150,000) in the same brothel depending on their category. So not cheap for top quality. But they are very sexy and overall very passionate in bed. Of course you can always go low budget. There are still a ton of girls available in the $20 to $25 price range. Its like looking for a diamond in a haystack, but the diamonds are out there. But overall despite the wonderful girls, Jakarta is not a very welcoming city for farangs. It seems kind of cold and distant. There is not that much to do there when not mongering and I think I would feel the isolation if I were to live there for a prolonged time.

Prices have risen a lot in the PI as well. Look at what's going on in AC since 2010. But I do love Filipinas. They can party and shag with the best of them, but they can also be devoted, loyal girlfriends. I know you are thinking of retiring there. It sounds good if you find the right spot in a beautiful location and can settle down with one or two special girls. I think I would go crazy living in AC or Manila. LOL.

I have often thought Phnom Penh or other parts of Cambodia would be a good place to live. Once off the tourist merry go round prices are pretty good. As for Khmer girls; I think they are delightful and a lot of fun. I have a friend who lives in Phnom. I like to see him and catch up whenever I am in his neck of the woods. He speaks fluent Khmer. He now has a local GF, but in his monger days he paid next to nothing for his girls and some of them were gorgeous and worked in bars charging tourists the going rate. They would Line him or before the internet call him and ask if they could come over and make him breakfast or something. What a life!

But again, I come back to Thailand. For all its faults, it just seems to me to have it all especially for long term expat residents. I don't know. I am just thinking out loud. First I would want to live in BKK for a year or two and learn Thai. But one day perhaps 10 years from now I could see myself living on a southern Thai Island with a Filipina or Indonesian GF. Taking short getaways to all the great watering holes whenever I get bored. Life is full of possibilities.

Stay thirsty,

NB.

LifeIsABeach
07-07-17, 07:08
Bull! Do you live in Phnom Penh? Do you speak Khmer? Are you good looking and under 30? If not then you don't know what you are talking about. The price in Darling Darling for a DD FL is $100 period unless you have answered yes to one of the three questions I just posed. Expats and good looking young men do have privileges. Otherwise waiting until 3 am for the same girl at half the price is not the same as picking her up at 11. Time is money. You ought to know that. I do not live in PP nor do I speak Khmer. Neither am I under 30 but over 50. The difference. I exercise and workout and am in very good shape and look younger and good looking. I wear good quality designer clothes and shower enough. I smell good. Next, I am pleasant and respectful to everyone, not just the WGs. I have been to Cambodia from top (Siem Reap) to bottom (Snookey) many times. I do not have to go to places like newbees like you and pay a lot more for pussy that is available cheaper everywhere else. I think you failed in every respect and have to pay high prices. Neither do I have to go across town and wait till 3. 00 AM. My usually with a woman no later than 10.00 pm or 11.00 pm at the latest. Enjoy life.

PolyOrchid
07-07-17, 17:28
But again, I come back to Thailand. For all its faults, it just seems to me to have it all especially for long term expat residents. I don't know. I am just thinking out loud. First I would want to live in BKK for a year or two and learn Thai. But one day perhaps 10 years from now I could see myself living on a southern Thai Island with a Filipina or Indonesian GF. Couldn't agree more, NB. I've been coming to Thailand since the mid-80's and living there most of the time for the past 5 years. I love the Philippines but I prefer a cleaner environment and a country where I can pick from 5-10 great restaurants within a mile. And in the Philippines, I may travel most of the day before finding even one local restaurant I would eat in. I'm no culinary historian and will never understand how two countries with similar climates and geography can have such different food offerings.

But the Pinay, in spite of her horrible diet, continues to be one of the best women in the world. So, your thoughts about living in Thailand with a Pinay (or Indo) GF makes sense to me. All the best in achieving it. And the sooner the better.

Titanio
07-08-17, 22:57
Couldn't agree more, NB. I've been coming to Thailand since the mid-80's and living there most of the time for the past 5 years. I love the Philippines but I prefer a cleaner environment and a country where I can pick from 5-10 great restaurants within a mile. And in the Philippines, I may travel most of the day before finding even one local restaurant I would eat in. I'm no culinary historian and will never understand how two countries with similar climates and geography can have such different food offerings.

But the Pinay, in spite of her horrible diet, continues to be one of the best women in the world. So, your thoughts about living in Thailand with a Pinay (or Indo) GF makes sense to me. All the best in achieving it. And the sooner the better.Living in Phuket with a devoted Cambodian GF and a decent pension is even better, IMHO.

Nokbkk
07-10-17, 08:58
Jeezz, must be a pleasure to do business with you The kind of guy that just doesn't know how to say no.

Morality she will be asking the next chap 50, and he will end-up with a 80 USD bill. 67?

FYI, you'll get a stunner in Europe, the US, and she would rock your world.

Hope you had fun.You forgot to copy 'LE Cyrcee is a place to miss. I don't care I paid too much, they can do that once: I won't go back'.

Banana Boi
07-10-17, 23:11
You forgot to copy 'LE Cyrcee is a place to miss. I don't care I paid too much, they can do that once: I won't go back'.You didn't get ripped off by LE cyrcee. You were charged the going rate there for some time. Tipping and hourly room were your choice.

10 barfine 40 short time pretty standard at most pp bars if you want someone under 25 and decent looking. Drinks can vary but I don't recall le cyrcee prices being inflated for drinks.

I like le cyrcee since price is never discussed with the girl. If only I liked more girls there.

AskeAske
07-14-17, 19:39
You didn't get ripped off by LE cyrcee. You were charged the going rate there for some time. Tipping and hourly room were your choice.

10 barfine 40 short time pretty standard at most pp bars if you want someone under 25 and decent looking. Drinks can vary but I don't recall le cyrcee prices being inflated for drinks.

I like le cyrcee since price is never discussed with the girl. If only I liked more girls there.Yes, it was the going rate. But Cyrcee is overpriced. I never go there now. It is so easy to find better and more cheap women in other bars.

Meo Den
07-15-17, 04:14
I have never seen a sign at 252. Is it possible that some punters are taking tukuks there and the driver is calling ahead to get commission, then the staff quickly stick a bogus sign on the desk?At 252 this week. As I was leaving an older black guy came in with a tuktuk driver. I overheard 'dop-bram' ($15) mentioned and it was like feeding time at the zoo. The women in the fish bowl were waving and smiling, even the colder bitches who tend to sit on the lower right side. The cashier gave me the nod to pay my $7 quickly while the new customer's back was turned.

It looked very like the women were tipped off to the effect that the new guy was a rube: like I said, if they see you being charged double for the room, they will more likely hold out for double for themselves.

FTR I had a good experience, got everything I wanted and paid the girl $25.

Eszpresszo
07-22-17, 01:19
I do not live in PP nor do I speak Khmer. Neither am I under 30 but over 50. The difference. I exercise and workout and am in very good shape and look younger and good looking. I wear good quality designer clothes and shower enough. I smell good. Next, I am pleasant and respectful to everyone, not just the WGs. I have been to Cambodia from top (Siem Reap) to bottom (Snookey) many times. I do not have to go to places like newbees like you and pay a lot more for pussy that is available cheaper everywhere else. I think you failed in every respect and have to pay high prices. Neither do I have to go across town and wait till 3. 00 AM. My usually with a woman no later than 10.00 pm or 11.00 pm at the latest. Enjoy life.I hear you on this one. I am pushing 60, but I and jog each day except for the days I work out at the gym. I eat healthy, take my vitamins and pay close attention to my grooming. I also wear nice clothes and understand well that the older you get, the harder it is for you to dress sloppy or forgo good grooming without looking like a bum. Its true. I can't wear the same clothes as a 20-something (not that I would I want to) but I can also capitalize on my age by dressing nicely in a fashion that also makes one look both stylish and dignified. You won't see me in shorts, t-shirt and sandals unless I am on a beach. I also try to be respectful to all locals and watch my level of intoxication. The only people who like a drunk are those ready to take advantage of a drunk. And I was told long before I ever became a monger that if you are drunk, you will always pay more.

I was a total newbie in Thailand last fall, yet in BKK and Patts, I ended paying the lower end of the price range. I did not have to negotiate hard, I simply negotiated and I did it politely, while walking away from girls who assumed I didn't know what the going rate was. I had similar luck in the DR last February. Clearly we are doing something right.

Golfinho
07-22-17, 03:24
I do not live in PP nor do I speak Khmer. Neither am I under 30 but over 50. The difference. I exercise and workout and am in very good shape and look younger and good looking. I wear good quality designer clothes and shower enough. I smell good. Next, I am pleasant and respectful to everyone, not just the WGs. I have been to Cambodia from top (Siem Reap) to bottom (Snookey) many times. I do not have to go to places like newbees like you and pay a lot more for pussy that is available cheaper everywhere else. I think you failed in every respect and have to pay high prices. Neither do I have to go across town and wait till 3. 00 AM. My usually with a woman no later than 10.00 pm or 11.00 pm at the latest. Enjoy life.And yet here you are in Cambodia, and not in your homeland having your choice of all available alpha females. The difference: you're in a country poor with an unfortunate recent past, but full of impoverished women. Sheesh, another charmer who's lost all sense of reality.

CarnaTj
08-01-17, 15:07
Has anyone been there? They have pretty good looking girls when driving by, but I've never gone in. Any advice would be great.

ItIsMe83
08-03-17, 11:04
Just got back from PP. Really really really loved the city. Girls are super sweet, not pushy (for drinks or anything basically) and overall a good time. Oh and they have many more games in the bars then the ones in Thailand haha. Seeing the poverty sometimes get's real sad tho. I have a hard time sometimes handling such things and you do notice a lot of it here compared to some other places but well. That's for other forums.

Note do: I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel which is perfectly located and of course has the great Skybar / pool. Tell a girl your staying there and she will def. Happily come with you. Altho in PP not all girls even want to be barfined (or like many have mentioned are very selective).

Now Sun&Moon has amazing staff but if you want to take a girl it will cost you 10 USD $. But. If you take a girl back before midnight just walk in and they usually won't say anything or say you are going to the skybar and then you can just take her to your room without the fine. After midnight when walking in they will call you and you will have to fill in your details and she will have too and leave ID. They do call in the morning 'if it's okay your girlfriend can leave'. Now at the end bill they didn't put any 10 $ fines on it. Maybe they removed it because I spend a considerable amount in F&B or they just do a bad admin. Hotel is def worth the money tho so stay there if you'd like the look / price of it.

Meo Den
08-04-17, 10:31
Has anyone been there? They have pretty good looking girls when driving by, but I've never gone in. Any advice would be great.Do you mean 'V' KTV (the 12 storey brown and cream building)?

I had a look at the massage on the 8th floor. One hour body massage $8. Didn't see any private rooms, only communal areas. Was told there were five masseuses but wasn't shown any (in the afternoon). No fishbowl selection. Only saw cashier. No English spoken.

Where did you see the girls, and at what time?

CarnaTj
08-05-17, 02:25
Do you mean 'V' KTV (the 12 storey brown and cream building)?

I had a look at the massage on the 8th floor. One hour body massage $8. Didn't see any private rooms, only communal areas. Was told there were five masseuses but wasn't shown any (in the afternoon). No fishbowl selection. Only saw cashier. No English spoken.

Where did you see the girls, and at what time?Yes, that one. Usually after about 8:00 pm the girls are all sitting downstairs so you can see them through the front doors. I talked to one of the "security" guys and he said you can have any of the girls for KTV, massage or they can go with you to the sky bar. I haven't seen anything about this place or East Massage on any message boards, although they are always busy. So

Belvaros
08-05-17, 08:02
Hi Natty,

I've been reading all your recent posts about your travels. If I understand you correctly the two best places in terms of overall quality and lower price are are still PI and Indonesia, right? It appears Thailand and Cambodia have gotten as expensive as Vietnam (which I no longer go to because they all want minimum $100/ night now). Even Burma has gotten more expensive. In contrast I can still go to Dominican Republic for some real fine snatch and giant boobs for about $50/ night. By the way clear out your inbox.

Cheers.I travel a lot and live in quite a few different places and almost everywhere I go the norm circa 2017 seems to be US $100 give or take.

Girls in Budapest used to be about $12 k Forints now $25 k ($100 approx), Morocco 500 Dhs now 1000 Dhs ($100 approx), PP for quality it is $100, broads in Hanoi, Saigon and other in Vietnam were asking $100++, Kiev for quality women it seems to start at $100+, rub and tug in Australia $70 for massage and $30 for the tug = $100, Costa Rica glamours want $100 LT yada yada yada.

I try to stand firm to my prices but I am no longer a Robert Redford type so like others here mentioned I have to pay $100 (YMMV). I used to get GFE and semi-pro action in most cities but that works out way more expensive even over a 1 week period.

At least in Pontoon and DD etc there are some absolute glamours that perform at a level worthy of $100. Had one young lass 4-5 times in a 15 hour session this week (from DD) and I had to throw her out because I wanted to watch the pre-season ARS-CHE game. I gave her $104 total as it was all I had left.

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Fast Eddie 48
08-05-17, 21:23
I travel a lot and live in quite a few different places and almost everywhere I go the norm circa 2017 seems to be US $100 give or take.

Girls in Budapest used to be about $12 k Forints now $25 k ($100 approx), Morocco 500 Dhs now 1000 Dhs ($100 approx), PP for quality it is $100, broads in Hanoi, Saigon and other in Vietnam were asking $100++, Kiev for quality women it seems to start at $100+, rub and tug in Australia $70 for massage and $30 for the tug = $100, Costa Rica glamours want $100 LT yada yada yada.

I try to stand firm to my prices but I am no longer a Robert Redford type so like others here mentioned I have to pay $100 (YMMV). I used to get GFE and semi-pro action in most cities but that works out way more expensive even over a 1 week period.

At least in Pontoon and DD etc there are some absolute glamours that perform at a level worthy of $100. Had one young lass 4-5 times in a 15 hour session this week (from DD) and I had to throw her out because I wanted to watch the pre-season ARS-CHE game. I gave her $104 total as it was all I had left.To Belavarlo.

Mongering is up everywhere in the world the first time in PP 15 yr ago I can get Viet girl at low end brothel everywhere in town for 3-5 usd and you can get girl at the Martini for 15 usd a night whose days are over.

Fast Eddie 48.

Meo Den
08-06-17, 08:32
Yes, that one. Usually after about 8:00 pm the girls are all sitting downstairs so you can see them through the front doors. I talked to one of the "security" guys and he said you can have any of the girls for KTV, massage or they can go with you to the sky bar. I haven't seen anything about this place or East Massage on any message boards, although they are always busy. SoAll you can do is go at night and ask the prices. I wouldn't have high hopes but you don't know if you don't try.

They charge $20 for a ST room. $15 for an oil massage. Their mission statement is 'By researching, practicing and promoting Cambodian cuisine, we aim to safeguard the nation's food heritage for years to come!

http://viennetower.com/index.php

ButtLover
08-09-17, 13:20
Hi!

Does anyone know if Flamingo's hotel is going to open again. There is no information on their website. I really liked this hotel and their staff particularly. Flamingos Hotel and Walkabout was one of the main reasons for me to visit Phom Penh.

BL.

Fast Eddie 48
08-10-17, 01:50
Hi!

Does anyone know if Flamingo's hotel is going to open again. There is no information on their website. I really liked this hotel and their staff particularly. Flamingos Hotel and Walkabout was one of the main reasons for me to visit Phom Penh.

BL.To BL,

I don't know why you like this hotel that much other than is cheap and at a good locations, I stay here one night 8 yr ago small room and very age, there been many new nicer hotel opening in PP most of the old one have been closing and being rebuild.

Fast Eddie 48.

Titanio
08-10-17, 22:34
Hi!

Does anyone know if Flamingo's hotel is going to open again. There is no information on their website. I really liked this hotel and their staff particularly. Flamingos Hotel and Walkabout was one of the main reasons for me to visit Phom Penh.

BL.At the other end of the Golden Soriya Mall around the corner in Street 154, the Na Na hotel is a way better option for the same price as what they charged in Flamingo's. The new Na Na is the renovated combination of Circuit and old Na Na hotels.

DingoD
08-11-17, 04:40
At the other end of the Golden Soriya Mall around the corner in Street 154, the Na Na hotel is a way better option for the same price as what they charged in Flamingo's. The new Na Na is the renovated combination of Circuit and old Na Na hotels.Do the rooms in the renovated Na Na have windows or still the same windowless prison cell feel about the rooms? Also, for folk that frequent GSM, get ready for some changes. Probably not before time, very low end shitty area.

http://m.phnompenhpost.com/business/golden-sorya-mall-get-fresh-start?utm_source=Phnompenh+Post+Main+List&utm_campaign=17 d40377 c8-20170811&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_690109 a91 f-17 d40377 c8-58581861.

Titanio
08-11-17, 23:38
Do the rooms in the renovated Na Na have windows or still the same windowless prison cell feel about the rooms? Also, for folk that frequent GSM, get ready for some changes. Probably not before time, very low end shitty area.

http://m.phnompenhpost.com/business/golden-sorya-mall-get-fresh-start?utm_source=Phnompenh+Post+Main+List&utm_campaign=17 d40377 c8-20170811&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_690109 a91 f-17 d40377 c8-58581861.Rooms are still same same. I have stayed in both, without a window as most are, or at the front with a window. Advantages of this hotel are the room size, good and silent A/C and although I hate a room without a window, here it was not too bad. Bit everything comes with a price and this is value for (little) money. There are way better places to be found, either starting at triple the price or out of the area. Nowadays I prefer BKK1 area and when an opportunity, I hideaway in Street 104.

Axiata
08-12-17, 09:58
After a night in BKK I was looking forward to PP. There is just something nice, sweet and different about Cambos. Landed at the airport and as usual the traffic out was bad. Finally got to my hotel and after a quick shower and change of clothes went to Rose Bar for a drink and some pool. The girls there are good fun and while not stunners are better than the beer bar girls in BKK IMHO. Played pool with two and I will go back tomorrow and try one of them for a short time as she was keen and had a tight body. After a few hours of pool and grinding I decided to head to Darlin Darlin. Have not taken out from there but it is ok to stop before heading to Pontoon. As usual the girls were dressed to impress and there were some good lookers however I had set my sights on hitting Pontoon and grinding with some girls there.

Arrived in Pontoon a little early at 11.30 pm and of course the back packers were making fools of themselves on the dance floor. Feel sorry for the poor guys who have all these stunning Cambos around them and they are stuck with muffin pants western women. Still, their loss is our gain.

Checked out the scene and after about 30 minutes spotted a real cutie with a great tight body that was dancing with her girlfriend. Once they sat down to drink I waited for a while and then made my move and asked her to dance. Although a little hesitant at first she accepted and we then spent the next 3 hours dancing and grinding. Not overly affectionate in the club however a lot of Cambos are like that the first time you meet them. Back at the hotel was a totally different story. She had a really nice rack and very firm body and her pussy was so tasty. A very long session followed and she was very into the night. Got her wechat number and will try again later.

Good start to 4 days in PP.

Happy Hunting.

Banana Boi
08-12-17, 13:43
Thank you for a much needed update on PP. What is the current rate at Pontoon?

Tcvve
08-13-17, 13:35
Rooms are still same same. I have stayed in both, without a window as most are, or at the front with a window. Advantages of this hotel are the room size, good and silent A/C and although I hate a room without a window, here it was not too bad. Bit everything comes with a price and this is value for (little) money. There are way better places to be found, either starting at triple the price or out of the area. Nowadays I prefer BKK1 area and when an opportunity, I hideaway in Street 104.At Titanio.

Thanks for the info at Na Na hotel. I'll be in PP during October. I'm also an an ex Flamingo Hotel stayer looking for a new place around the GSM area.

A couple of quick questions regarding the Na Na hotel:

Where do you put valuables. In-room safe or lobby downstairs? Any rumors of thief reported there?

One of the advantages of staying at the Flamingo hotel is servicing Thai Tourist Visa for customers. Does the Na Na hotel have business contacts to get 60 day Thai Tourist Visa? I assume there is no cover charge bringing in a female friend for the evening.

Thanks.

TC.

Titanio
08-13-17, 22:27
At Titanio.

Thanks for the info at Na Na hotel. I'll be in PP during October. I'm also an an ex Flamingo Hotel stayer looking for a new place around the GSM area.

A couple of quick questions regarding the Na Na hotel:

Where do you put valuables. In-room safe or lobby downstairs? Any rumors of thief reported there?

One of the advantages of staying at the Flamingo hotel is servicing Thai Tourist Visa for customers. Does the Na Na hotel have business contacts to get 60 day Thai Tourist Visa? I assume there is no cover charge bringing in a female friend for the evening.

Thanks.

TC.Na Na has in room safe. I always felt very safe in there. Leaving any stuff on the table, was not even touched by the very friendly cleaners. In all that kind of local hotels I make sure to say Hello, to the cleaners so that they know who I am, but more important, that they know that I know them. Sometimes with a lame excuse if I can get an extra set of towels every day, just give them 5 dollar once or twice. This always worked for me and they don't expect any further tip.

There is no joiner fee, but the girl has to register and leave her ID at reception. If the girl arrives by motorbike at ground floor, where there is also an elevator, security won't let her leave before they phone you in your room to check if OK to let her leave.

I never used their Thai Visa services, but for sure they know and will do for you, as every receptionist needs to earn a few dollars more. All hotels in this price range and area will do.

I will be back this Thursday but stay far south from this area as I met a "good" girl and thus have to keep up my appearances. Have still to fabric some stories about previous trips.

Tcvve
08-14-17, 13:38
Na Na has in room safe. I always felt very safe in there. Leaving any stuff on the table, was not even touched by the very friendly cleaners. In all that kind of local hotels I make sure to say Hello, to the cleaners so that they know who I am, but more important, that they know that I know them. Sometimes with a lame excuse if I can get an extra set of towels every day, just give them 5 dollar once or twice. This always worked for me and they don't expect any further tip.

There is no joiner fee, but the girl has to register and leave her ID at reception. If the girl arrives by motorbike at ground floor, where there is also an elevator, security won't let her leave before they phone you in your room to check if OK to let her leave.

I never used their Thai Visa services, but for sure they know and will do for you, as every receptionist needs to earn a few dollars more. All hotels in this price range and area will do.

I will be back this Thursday but stay far south from this area as I met a "good" girl and thus have to keep up my appearances. Have still to fabric some stories about previous trips.Thanks Titanio your feedback was very helpful. Will make reservations next month. I do know a couple of girls w / o ID's, will have to figure out how can I resolve that with the hotel.

Enjoy your time with that good girl.

TC.

Dive Monger
08-14-17, 21:46
At the other end of the Golden Soriya Mall around the corner in Street 154, the Na Na hotel is a way better option for the same price as what they charged in Flamingo's. The new Na Na is the renovated combination of Circuit and old Na Na hotels.I stayed at the Na Na a couple of years ago, and it worked out very very well. Crap breakfast, but that is to be expected; I usually skipped it and ate a block away at an outdoor restaurant which was excellent. A decade ago on a couple of trips I stayed at the Flamingo, which was great as I often pulled from the Walkabout LOL. Now that the Walkabout is gone, the location of Na Na is not all that great, unless you are a GSM during the day and Pontoon for late night only monger, in which case the location is still pretty ideal. I may stay closer to the 130/136 or 104 area next time I'm in town, not sure what I'll do. As I have now ripened to a wrinkly old age, my mongering habits (and the prices I am forced to pay) have changed dramatically from 20 years ago.

Titanio
08-14-17, 23:02
I stayed at the Na Na a couple of years ago, and it worked out very very well. Crap breakfast, but that is to be expected; I usually skipped it and ate a block away at an outdoor restaurant which was excellent. A decade ago on a couple of trips I stayed at the Flamingo, which was great as I often pulled from the Walkabout LOL. Now that the Walkabout is gone, the location of Na Na is not all that great, unless you are a GSM during the day and Pontoon for late night only monger, in which case the location is still pretty ideal. I may stay closer to the 130/136 or 104 area next time I'm in town, not sure what I'll do. As I have now ripened to a wrinkly old age, my mongering habits (and the prices I am forced to pay) have changed dramatically from 20 years ago.Pillar Hotel corner of Riverside and street 102 is a nice 30-40 dollar hotel. I have stayed there a couple of times. Complete girl friendly, good breakfast included and last time a free 90 minutes massage as a promotion. Lovely massage girl but even for 40 dollar she did not fall. Proper massage only.

Breakfast at Na Na and former Circuit is crap indeed, toast with some egg smeared on it. But proper Italian coffee. One day I ordered a 2nd coffee and they want to charge me extra for that. Hey come on, zi boomed a double room, that's 2 persons. The manager understood directly. I always took breakfast on the terrace straight opposite the hotel. That is top of GSM. And although Walkabout is gone, there is still Black Cat where YMMV and some more further down that block, or the next. Girls there are less picky than in 130/136 and 104 where all bars next to each other. I prefer 118 where you are more happily invited. But some in 104 are also OK like Bunny, if you know the owner, or Oscar. In Bar 104 you must be lucky that there is no Two Weeks Millionaire around and then it is all OK. Have fun. Oh ever been to the Viets bars, 3rd block in 136? No idea about today's quality but it was always fun. I think I will not come any further than a Viets day massage past street 90 or so, where the Viet coffee house is on the corner. You should try.

Titanio
08-14-17, 23:06
Thanks Titanio your feedback was very helpful. Will make reservations next month. I do know a couple of girls w / o ID's, will have to figure out how can I resolve that with the hotel.

Enjoy your time with that good girl.

TC.No problem w / o ID. Don't walk passed reception, but take the elevator at ground floor while you give a dollar to the guard. He will be happy. And on the way out the girl should walk pass the reception. But all on your own risk of course.

Axiata
08-15-17, 12:10
Thank you for a much needed update on PP. What is the current rate at Pontoon?Pontoon is like every other freelance club around the globe. The later into the night and the more the girl likes you the less the cost. I have never managed no lower than $50 US for the whole night until mid afternoon. Others may be able to get lower. I have a set expectation of what I want and what I will pay. If the girl performs she earns more. I do not mind paying for service that is exceptional.

Pontoon still has the best girl ratio of many of the clubs I go to around Asia. So many pretty Cambos. Around 1. 30 am is the best time.

Happy Hunting.

Axiata
08-15-17, 12:30
Well the trip has ended. But as usual PP lived up to expectations. PP is not for everyone. Not a lot to do during the day and the heat makes sure that you need to have access to a pool.

However the girls are something else. The more I visit the more I become enchanted by there sweetness.

So to the trip. I visited Rose Bar a few times but did not take out. I think it has the highest number of above average girls and also has a very good pool table. Be careful though. There is one ladyboy in there and she is hard to pick out so young players may get caught.

I also visited 136 bar on the corner. Has girls dancing on a small stage. Girls were pretty and fun. I barfined one that was a stunner and we headed back for a short time play. While very willing and able there was no real spark. The sex was satisfying without being anything special. Still getting to fuck a beautiful 22 year old is magical in itself.

I also visited helicopter bar but did not find anything there worth taking out. The stunner from 136 just raised the bar too high.

Visited Pontoon on every night and grabbed a different girl each time. The great thing is that they were all very different but I found them all very willing to please and stay well into the day.

Cambos are sweet and if you have time will treat you like a boyfriend. Treat them like GFs and they will love you more. Look forward to my next trip.

Happy Hunting.

Sammy1968
08-16-17, 07:38
I have visited BK and other Thai places several times so have some insight into mongoring.

I am going to spend 5 nights in PP in October, staying at the OKAY Boutique (OKAY Suite).

My goal is to sample as much Khmer pussy as possible.

I have RTFF and researched online about the bars in PP which takes care of my nocturnal prowlings.

What I don't know much about is the massage scene (similar to Bangkok ones) I am hoping to have an afternoon daliance each day aswell.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Reports will follow my visit.

Cheers.

Copenhagen
08-16-17, 18:59
What I don't know much about is the massage scene (similar to Bangkok ones) I am hoping to have an afternoon daliance each day as well.As I remember there are plenty of pretty good massage places. Enjoyed them and the prices were pretty reasonable. Was there 2 years ago. Have a great stay.

Cheers from Copenhagen.

Axiata
08-17-17, 10:37
I have visited BK and other Thai places several times so have some insight into mongoring.

I am going to spend 5 nights in PP in October, staying at the OKAY Boutique (OKAY Suite).

My goal is to sample as much Khmer pussy as possible.

I have RTFF and researched online about the bars in PP which takes care of my nocturnal prowlings.

What I don't know much about is the massage scene (similar to Bangkok ones) I am hoping to have an afternoon daliance each day aswell.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Reports will follow my visit.

Cheers.Sammy, the best way to secure afternoon services is via online or get numbers of the girls from the bars. I have found both very good. PP is not BKK and options for massage with extras are not that many. However you will find that most girls will be up for afternoon activity if you have connected via wechat, DIA or Line. I have found grabbing their numbers after buying a few drinks at bars is a great way of connecting for the next day. Of course the girl you take home from the bar or clubs will stay and play for most of the day if you have connected.

Happy Hunting.

Member #4531
08-19-17, 13:40
Any recent reports for Massa? Thanks.

SenatorDavis
08-22-17, 21:26
Well the trip has ended. But as usual PP lived up to expectations. PP is not for everyone. Not a lot to do during the day and the heat makes sure that you need to have access to a pool.

However the girls are something else. The more I visit the more I become enchanted by there sweetness.

So to the trip. I visited Rose Bar a few times but did not take out. I think it has the highest number of above average girls and also has a very good pool table. Be careful though. There is one ladyboy in there and she is hard to pick out so young players may get caught.

I also visited 136 bar on the corner. Has girls dancing on a small stage. Girls were pretty and fun. I barfined one that was a stunner and we headed back for a short time play. While very willing and able there was no real spark. The sex was satisfying without being anything special. Still getting to fuck a beautiful 22 year old is magical in itself..Thanks for the info. Will definitely book a room with a pool.

I usually hobby in BKK and found that getting LINE contact info works best for daytime fun as well.

Can I ask what prices you were paying in general in PP? The Japanese are driving up prices in BKK and was looking for other options. Any comparisons with PP girls and Thai girls would be appreciated as well; I. E less jaded?

Have Hobbied in Siem Reap at the karaoke bars there and found some half French / Cambodian talent-- truly stunning. Hopefully more of that in PP and Snookie.

Hope to visit in early December. Thanks, Senator.

Axiata
08-24-17, 13:04
Thanks for the info. Will definitely book a room with a pool.

I usually hobby in BKK and found that getting LINE contact info works best for daytime fun as well.

Can I ask what prices you were paying in general in PP? The Japanese are driving up prices in BKK and was looking for other options. Any comparisons with PP girls and Thai girls would be appreciated as well; I. E less jaded?

Have Hobbied in Siem Reap at the karaoke bars there and found some half French / Cambodian talent-- truly stunning. Hopefully more of that in PP and Snookie.

Hope to visit in early December. Thanks, Senator.Senator, prices vary based on the girl and place. In average bars you can take out short time for about 30 usd plus 10 usd barfine. Better bars will be about 50 usd and 10 usd bar fine. Locals will argue that they pay a lot less but for tourists that is what the girls will demand. Not all girls will go with you and some will want a little spent on drinks. However it is still very cheap. Pontoon is hit and miss for price depending on the time. I have not managed to grab a long time for less than 70 usd early in the night but they stay well into the next day so it is good value for the monger. You get many shots and can have fun in the pool if your hotel has one.

Of course price is always negotiable and depends on your wallet. I have a level of service and type of girl I look for so I tend to pay more anyway. Wechat has options and so does grabbing numbers at bars and calling them the next day. Prices are then up to you to negotiate although some may just want to get laid. My colleague spent 4 days there and only got wechat girls. Cost drinks and a meal and he got laid each night. So it is up to you as to how you hunt and what you outlay.
In terms of comparison. Well both Thai and Cambos are great fun. On average the Cambos are not as savvy IMHO as the Thais and I think not as aggressive in the sack, but they are sweet, eager and provide GFE on par with the best Thais. Some Cambos are stunning and have bodies as good as Thais. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder so each man to themselves. Pontoon has a mix a jaded and fresh as do the bars. It is well worth the trip before the Japanese ruin it as well....

Happy Hunting.

MichelJ
08-27-17, 09:13
Can I ask what prices you were paying in general in PP? The Japanese are driving up prices in BKK and was looking for other options. Any comparisons with PP girls and Thai girls would be appreciated as well; I. E less jaded?ST 25-30 USD, LT 40-50 USD and barfine 10 USD.

SenatorDavis
08-27-17, 23:05
Senator, prices vary based on the girl and place. In average bars you can take out short time for about 30 usd plus 10 usd barfine. Better bars will be about 50 usd and 10 usd bar fine. Locals will argue that they pay a lot less but for tourists that is what the girls will demand. Not all girls will go with you and some will want a little spent on drinks. However it is still very cheap. Pontoon is hit and miss for price depending on the time.

Of course price is always negotiable and depends on your wallet. I have a level of service and type of girl I look for so I tend to pay more anyway. Wechat has options and so does grabbing numbers at bars and calling them the next day..Thanks for the price ranges and comparisons. Always helpful when visiting a new place, don't want to be that guy that resets market rates. When the bar girls Speak far better Japanese then English, it may be time to move on. I did hear that Japan was cracking down and trying to clean up the country a little bit prior to the Olympics so that and I stronger yen may be driving things in BKK.

Wow, 50 for LT, that's a lot of cuddling. I tend to go for the higher end spinners so have had better luck in Thailand where the woman are generally taller and fairer skin, at least Northerners, than other parts of SE Asia, e. G. , Manila.

I will try Wechat, etc. And report back, just found Wechat was Full of ladyboys in BKK, so am weary of that.

Sammy1968
08-28-17, 20:09
Cheers and thanks to everyone who gave me advice. Appreciate it. 38 days and counting.

Axiata
08-29-17, 12:41
Thanks for the price ranges and comparisons. Always helpful when visiting a new place, don't want to be that guy that resets market rates. When the bar girls Speak far better Japanese then English, it may be time to move on. I did hear that Japan was cracking down and trying to clean up the country a little bit prior to the Olympics so that and I stronger yen may be driving things in BKK.

Wow, 50 for LT, that's a lot of cuddling. I tend to go for the higher end spinners so have had better luck in Thailand where the woman are generally taller and fairer skin, at least Northerners, than other parts of SE Asia, e. G. , Manila.

I will try Wechat, etc. And report back, just found Wechat was Full of ladyboys in BKK, so am weary of that.Senator, pay for what you think the girl is worth and is prepared to supply. Your taste will dictate your spend and do not stress about upsetting the market. Still a little way to go before PP becomes an expensive place for our hobby. It will happen but not just yet.

Happy Hunting.

Member #4531
08-30-17, 11:52
Wondered if anyone here had any success shagging tourist girls? I'm still within striking range of the backpackers and wanted to mix it up a bit from the local ladies. Any particular bars to find willing tourist girls?

GreenBud
08-30-17, 19:03
Wondered if anyone here had any success shagging tourist girls? I'm still within striking range of the backpackers and wanted to mix it up a bit from the local ladies. Any particular bars to find willing tourist girls?Bangkok's Khoa San Road would be your best bet.

In Phnom Penh, there was a similar, smaller scene by the Boeung Kak Lake, but those corrupt officials filled up most of the lake to build a massive complex (how does a politician's company always gets the permits and rights to build). Most of the businesses that catered to the backpackers had to close or move. I liked that scene, although many people hated it.

Many of the businesses moved to Street 172. It's spread out, but the street is short. Just walk the street, and hang out at the bars/restaurants that has the backpackers.

In Siem Reap, Pub Street has all the bars with the backpackers. There's potential over there.

Vijai
08-31-17, 02:32
A big thank you to all those who have posted info here, it was invaluable during my recent trip to PP. Thank you again.

I found the pace of PP to be very relaxed and was also pleasantly surprised by the dining options in the city. The locals I met were very polite and friendly. I stayed at Okay Boutique. The room was spacious and clean and included a decent breakfast. Good value for money & girl friendly. The reception calls to check if everything is OK when the girls leave, nice touch.

Fun and games.

Darling Darling. I enjoyed my 3 visits to DD, the place has a great ambience and the girl line up is good. I had 2 X threesomes and 1 X 1-on-1 session with DD girls. The 1 on 1 session with Nana was memorable. Nana is tall. About 5'10" and has a warm smile. Very good company. Had 2 sessions with her and she left the next day around noon (Cost -USD 150 for LT). The other chicks were USD100/ chick for 2 hour sessions.

Intoxica Bar on 136 - I had 2 excellent threesome sessions with girls from Intoxica; the girls were friendly and sexy in bed. USD10/ chick barfine + 50/ chick for 2 hours + 10/ chick -tips. Excellent value. I promised myself that I will spend more time at the beer bars during my next trip. I also visited 136, Xanadu (lots of ladyboys), Rose etc, but did not find any interesting chicks during my visits.

Pontoon. I visited Pontoon twice for a look, noticed some spillover from DD post midnight. Will spend more time here during my next trip.

Soraya Mall. Walked into Soraya one day and walked out 2 minutes later. The scene did not appeal to me.

It was a toss between Bangkok & PP when I was planning a trip. I am glad I visited PP and plan to visit again. A big thumbs up to PP.

Betong
08-31-17, 13:46
Senator, pay for what you think the girl is worth and is prepared to supply. Your taste will dictate your spend and do not stress about upsetting the market.I don't look in here much these days but these are words of real wisdom. Know the market price but then pay whatever the hell you want. It's your money.

EliteCeasar
08-31-17, 14:06
Hi guys!

I'm new to here plus I'm a local guy. I'd like to share my report on Massa. I've been there last week. The place is now renovated. Facility is nice, there are about 20+ girl to choose but only few will catch your eyes. I pick one girl who gave a decent massage but won't give me any happy ending as she said she's on period and recommend me to her friend which look horribly ugly. I end up getting nothing from that visit (my first time looking for a fun time was a failure).

Can anyone recommend me about these place below:

- Mean Haur Hotel.

- Hotel Luxury World.

- Soul Garden City.

Are those place worth a visit? And Wechat, as I seen many people bringing it up. Can we trust those photo? I mean some of them look fake.

MutantChicken
08-31-17, 17:15
I don't look in here much these days but these are words of real wisdom. Know the market price but then pay whatever the hell you want. It's your money.Whilst its true it is your money and you can pay whatever you want for my part with that attitude I'll be keeping the location where I found these girls for 15 usd 1 HR st no barfine a tight secret.

Member #4698
09-01-17, 00:20
Fun and games.

Darling Darling. I enjoyed my 3 visits to DD, the place has a great ambience and the girl line up is good. I had 2 X threesomes and 1 X 1-on-1 session with DD girls. The 1 on 1 session with Nana was memorable. Nana is tall. About 5'10" and has a warm smile. Very good company. Had 2 sessions with her and she left the next day around noon (Cost -USD 150 for LT). The other chicks were USD100/ chick for 2 hour sessions.

Intoxica Bar on 136 - I had 2 excellent threesome sessions with girls from Intoxica; the girls were friendly and sexy in bed. USD10/ chick barfine + 50/ chick for 2 hours + 10/ chick -tips. Excellent value. I promised myself that I will spend more time at the beer bars during my next trip. I also visited 136, Xanadu (lots of ladyboys), Rose etc, but did not find any interesting chicks during my visits.

Pontoon. I visited Pontoon twice for a look, noticed some spillover from DD post midnight. Will spend more time here during my next trip.

Soraya Mall. Walked into Soraya one day and walked out 2 minutes later. The scene did not appeal to me.

It was a toss between Bangkok & PP when I was planning a trip. I am glad I visited PP and plan to visit again. A big thumbs up to PP.A big thumbs up for your report. Sounds like you had a great time. Ain't Khmer girls sweet and a lotta fun!

1) 3 way: a novel approach for DD. I have never thought of it. Nice! Were all you DD girls Khmer? I like DD. Its another world there compared to the hostess bars. I think it is a better 5* Hotel FL pick up bar with younger sexier girls than Spasso at the Hyatt in BKK, but CJ's at the Mulia Hotel in Jakarta is the best and Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore has the most beautiful girls.

2) I don't think I ever checked out Intoxica Bar. Oasis was my favorite 136 ST bar back a few years ago when Avin, my super hottie worked there. She moved to Rose bar in 2015, but I lost track of her after that and sadly I didn't see her anywhere in 2017.

3) Pontoon has possibites, but such a long wait till it gets going. My idea for next time is an early ST with a hostess bar girl and then a 2nd session with a Pontoon FL later.

4) Soraya Mall - 555!

It sounds like you are hooked on Phnom. That's cool, it is a very funky city, but I would suggest spending a little time in BKK too on your next trip if you have the time. I really like the big mango.

Banana Boi
09-01-17, 04:58
Pontoon has possibites, but such a long wait till it gets going. My idea for next time is an early ST with a hostess bar girl and then a 2nd session with a Pontoon FL later.I think I am going to try this approach on my next PP visit as well. ST with a bar or DD girl then hit Pontoon.


I don't think I ever checked out Intoxica Bar. An action bar on Street 130 beside Angry Birds. Girls aren't great though unless things have changed.


ill be keeping the location where I found these girls for 15 usd 1 HR st no barfine a tight secret.

I like pic 3 but the photo is useless to me if I can't find her.

Paulr1950
09-01-17, 06:01
I always used to go to GSM about 5 am after I woke up an see all the girls that had not picked leaving, an there was no probs to get a girl for a good price, but the last yr or so its been bit of a hassel sittin a a bar in GSM that early, so have been goin later but not much goin on then as I used to stay at blue tounge but its closed now so not sure where I stay next week when I in pp again.

DingoD
09-01-17, 13:23
Whilst its true it is your money and you can pay whatever the hell you want for my part with that attitude ill be keeping the location where I found these girls for 15 usd 1 HR st no barfine a tight secret.As much as I could be bothered, and that wasn't a great deal, perused your Phnom Penh recent posting history and as I suspected, absolutely nothing of value in the past 2 plus years other than letting everyone know how little you pay for such a higher quality girl but yet never provide any detail of where this apparent gold mine of cheap hot pussy us available?? Even went to the trouble of adding some stock photos to this recent post?

No value to anybody at all if you aren't going to provide and share shit!!

Useless is being polite.

MikeM488
09-02-17, 04:24
Hi!

Does anyone know if Flamingo's hotel is going to open again. There is no information on their website. I really liked this hotel and their staff particularly. Flamingos Hotel and Walkabout was one of the main reasons for me to visit Phom Penh.

BL.When I was there in late April. They had taken down all the walls in the hotel. The only thing remaining were the floors. By now there should have been done some major remodeling or they took down the floors. I am sure somebody give you the current update on the building.

The website remains. They never answers any email. I tried in March.

MikeM488
09-02-17, 05:19
Thanks for the update Mikem488.

Any recommendations on a GF Hotel near the Flamingo Hotel area price range $35.00 max?

TC.Guys are writing that NA NA hotel down a block from Pontoon. Has safe in room. $27 for double bed.

AskeAske
09-02-17, 20:27
As much as I could be bothered, and that wasn't a great deal, perused your Phnom Penh recent posting history and as I suspected, absolutely nothing of value in the past 2 plus years other than letting everyone know how little you pay for such a higher quality girl but yet never provide any detail of where this apparent gold mine of cheap hot pussy us available?? Even went to the trouble of adding some stock photos to this recent post?

No value to anybody at all if you aren't going to provide and share shit!!

Useless is being polite.MutantChicken is a welknown troll. Don't waste any time on his nonsense.

Banana Boi
09-04-17, 20:10
Should there be any concerns travelling to PP given the events over the past couple of days?

MutantChicken
09-06-17, 13:53
If this is one on your bucket list 40 usd each no barfine as I didn't get them from those rip off bars.

EliteCeasar
09-06-17, 15:59
Can anyone tell me whether I should trust the girl's photo on WeChat?

IllusionHeart
09-09-17, 10:18
August 17 to 23 (6 days).

This was my second visit to Phnom Penh after a gap of two years. My earlier trip had been decent and hence decided to revisit. I also needed some variety from AC and Pattaya. This trip I had planned for stay of 2 days in Phnom Penh (Ohana, Residence room, approx. 60 SGD per night including breakfast) 2 days at Sihanoukville (Serendipity Resort, approx. 50 SGD per night) and 2 days back in Phnom Penh (Quay Hotel, approx. 90 SGD per night). I had stayed at Amanjaya Pancam last trip and it was luxurious, wanted to explore some of the other options hence did not commit to a single hotel for the entire stay this trip.

I wasn't expecting too many changes compared to my earlier visit and I was right. Rather than delving into day wise itinerary I thought it would be apt to summarize my experiences briefly as most of the information is already shared in recent FRs and I don't have anything special or extra to add.

Hostess Bars:

The bars get going after 5/6 pm but I saw the streets come alive only after 8/9 pm.

Street 104: Bar 104 remains the best bar on this street in terms of atmosphere and attitude of girls. Quality is decent if you are used to Khmer faces. The bill can quickly get out of control if you don't contain your emotions. The girls can drink very fast and there is no defined time between drinks. All said the fun element is highest in this bar. ST was 50 + 10 BF. Didn't ask or negotiate for LT but it would have been between 70 to 80 I presume.

Some other bars such as Top 10, Airforce, Bunny, Oscar etc were just worth a peek in, not more than 3 or 5 girls inside. Issue was many of these were very young girls. It is probable that they might not barfine hence wise to ask upfront before investing too much into drinks. The worst experience was Rose bar. I felt that this bar has been hyped a lot in previous FRs or maybe I was here on a wrong day wrong time. Nonetheless I will not bother if I visit again. Girls seem to appear drugged and lazy, atmosphere was gloomy, slow service and no energy in the bar not to mention the cost of drinks compared to other bars on the street. Not worth my time and money.

Street 130 and 136:

Bars on these street are better in terms of quantity and quality of girls, sharkiness element for drinks is considerably higher. I visited a few, avoided candy for any encounter with LB. Surprisingly two more bars I entered Tiger and Xanadu also had LBs mixed in the crowd. This is not a good trend if it's evolving. I prefer clear segregation. This streets are where I would spend most of my time if I wanted to go bar hopping.

Other bylanes and street:

All bylanes connecting the main streets house bars which are worth a peek if you like someone. Most of the times its in and out buying just a bottle of water. I do not have any specific recommendations like Angry birds or honeypot or Loco, etc. I think you should get into a bar wherever you find any girl to your liking and walk away if you don't like rather than sticking to specific names which you would have read or heard.

Clubs:

Darling Darling:

This still remains one of the premium pick up clubs. Choices were good but preference to Chinese men is notable as some girls would like to restrict themselves and will quote non negotiable high price in case you engage. I picked up two ST gals from here, decent experience, nothing outstanding. Quotes for ST started at 150 USD but girls generally agreed at 100 USD. Service was templeted. Girls will hit the shower as soon as you get back, finish the job and go away, similar to LOS. I did repeat one girl for LT which was 200 USD and overheads were approx. 50, I. E. Food, drinks, tip, etc. By the time we finished the first pop it was already 1 am and most of the regular clubs close early so we could not go anywhere out. Going to pontoon with her would have been like taking sand to the beach which I consciously avoided. This experience was an exception and decent encounter for me but albeit expensive considering I was heading for a 9 day stay in Pattaya from here.

I took a look around the Casino floor, there were few girls available at the bar near the performance stage but nothing worth engaging with. This seems to be a pit stop for all working girls on the Casino floor and Darling Darling. Difficult to not get attracted to hot casino staff walking around. DD also has some good looking girls working for the bar but they don't converse much except for the bill you have to pay for the drinks. Always are in rush considering the crowd in the bar.

Pontoon:

It seems this is the only late night pick up club in town. I did see one or two Daring Darling girls turn up here but these ones I didn't want earlier either. It would not be fair to compare this club to Insomnia in pattaya as the quality and no of girls is significantly less comparatively. There aren't more options in this city hence I was here most of the nights. Some of the good ones start at 100 USD and I had one who walked away when I tried to negotiate. Other girls do agree on 70 or 50 depending upon the time of the night / early morning. Club stays open till early mornings but it gets boring after 3 or 4 am when the crowds thin out hence if you haven't found someone by this time you should call it a night. I repeated a girl from here and she was good experience.

There are some other clubs namely Epic, Club Cambodia, Royal, etc but I did not bother as these would be mostly local clubs and not worth the time and energy as I was alone.

Daytime Action (1 pm till 7 pm):

This continued to be a problem for me. The LT girl was out by 12 or 1 am and there was nothing to do till the bars got going in the evening. I had visited all key massage places earlier trip and did not want to repeat considering the cost and infrastructure at these places. Wechat girls start responding in the evening and it's not as quick and efficient as LOS. I had visited LeCyrcee last trip and wasn't keen on visiting again neither Shanghai. Golden Sorya mall is best avoided, nothing but dregs there. Unless you are really lucky and have time to kill, not worth.

I never made it to Sihanoukville as it was raining every day and I was advised that the roads would not be good and drive dangerous.

Prices are creeping up in Phnom Penh. Girls are asking more, drinks are more, tuck tuck guys want 2 USD for every ride. Food is not exactly cheap.

I like the afternoon G clubs, Soi 6 or Soi full love inn kind of scene which does not exist here. Besides going to Aeon mall you are stuck in the room in the afternoons due to heat or rain outside. Criminal waste of time when on a short trip. Night time club options are also limited. So is quality and quantity.

Phnom Penh continues to remain an option for short visit whenever I want break from Philippines or Thailand but will not substitute them for a long stay. Comparatively Jakarta has better looking girls, good infrastructure in terms of sauna Joints and Clubs but is closed environment hence not comparable.

IllusionHeart
09-09-17, 10:18
Can anyone tell me whether I should trust the girl's photo on WeChat?You should not. Get into a video chat with the girl and if she's refusing avoid her.

Krum Lov
09-09-17, 10:59
There used to be a great place in PP called Sophies. It was a BJ bar. BBBJCIM, for $10 a pop. I went there in 2006. But alas, it has since closed. It was a classic place. Are there any other type of places like this now in PP? I may visit PP again soon.

Thanks.

Pipe Layer99
09-09-17, 12:33
August 17 to 23 (6 days). This was my second visit to Phnom Penh after a gap of two years. My earlier trip had been decent and hence decided to revisit. I also needed some variety from AC and Pattaya.... Phnom Penh continues to remain an option for short visit whenever I want break from Philippines or Thailand but will not substitute them for a long stay. Comparatively Jakarta has better looking girls, good infrastructure in terms of sauna Joints and Clubs but is closed environment hence not comparable.Great post! I have been living in Pattaya for 4 years and have never been to Cambodia for fun. I have been to Thailand, Indo, PI, HK. Macau, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, and Laos.

I will make my first trip to PP next month. I'm on a multiple entry visa, so I will travel near the 90 day mark, then return with another 90 days. I have a Canadian buddy who ownes a bar in PP, so I will probably stay at his place unless he is booked or has another recommendation for me. I figure a little 7-10 day get-away is fine for a side trip.

Thanks for the update.

IllusionHeart
09-09-17, 14:25
Great post! I have been living in Pattaya for 4 years and have never been to Cambodia for fun. I have been to Thailand, Indo, PI, HK. Macau, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, and Laos.

I will make my first trip to PP next month. I'm on a multiple entry visa, so I will travel near the 90 day mark, then return with another 90 days. I have a Canadian buddy who ownes a bar in PP, so I will probably stay at his place unless he is booked or has another recommendation for me. I figure a little 7-10 day get-away is fine for a side trip.

Thanks for the update.Thank you for reading my FR. I would recommend coming to PNH on one of your VISA runs for approx 2 to 3 days initially. Things are quite different and slow paced. Prices are not cheap for all things comparatively. Besides nothing much to do except bars and if you like to gamble then Naga Casino is also an option to spend time. Food scene ain't as great as LOS. If you like it here in your first trip then can definately revisit for a longer stay.

EliteCeasar
09-10-17, 05:10
You should not. Get into a video chat with the girl and if she's refusing avoid her.Thank you! I'll try finding one this next holiday.

Blanquiceleste
09-10-17, 05:52
This was my second visit to Phnom Penh after a gap of two years.

SNIP

Phnom Penh continues to remain an option for short visit whenever I want break from Philippines or Thailand but will not substitute them for a long stay. Great report, very informative. I have never been to PP before, though I have visited Siem Reap a couple of times. Maybe I should start with a weekend jaunt later this month.

Darling Darling is a $100 for ST? Are the ladies worth it? Only one way to tell. Inspect them yourself. 5555.

I was under the impression that Cambodia is the cheapest of all SEA countries to live in. Seems like that is changing fast.

IllusionHeart
09-10-17, 06:08
Great report, very informative. I have never been to PP before, though I have visited Siem Reap a couple of times. Maybe I should start with a weekend jaunt later this month.

Darling Darling is a $100 for ST? Are the ladies worth it? Only one way to tell. Inspect them yourself. 5555.

I was under the impression that Cambodia is the cheapest of all SEA countries to live in. Seems like that is changing fast.Cambodia has and is changing fast. Besides if you are after quality like me you will have to pay a premium irrespective of the country.

Darling darling girls are a mixed bag like everywhere else. A beer (Heineken) is approx 6 USD and couple of drinks trying to check the girls sets one back by 20 to 30 USD. ST being around 100 and other misc exp like travel, food, etc makes it a 150 to 175 USD experience. Definately not cheap for ST.

Naga is a predominant Chinese playground hence you also need to overcome that by spending time and money to find the girl you want.

All said a visit is definately recommended. You never know what might work for you when down there.

Axiata
09-11-17, 04:17
August 17 to 23 (6 days).

This was my second visit to Phnom Penh after a gap of two years. My earlier trip had been decent and hence decided to revisit. I also needed some variety from AC and Pattaya. This trip I had planned for stay of 2 days in Phnom Penh (Ohana, Residence room, approx. 60 SGD per night including breakfast) 2 days at Sihanoukville (Serendipity Resort, approx. 50 SGD per night) and 2 days back in Phnom Penh (Quay Hotel, approx. 90 SGD per night). I had stayed at Amanjaya Pancam last trip and it was luxurious, wanted to explore some of the other options hence did not commit to a single hotel for the entire stay this trip.

I wasn't expecting too many changes compared to my earlier visit and I was right. Rather than delving into day wise itinerary I thought it would be apt to summarize my experiences briefly as most of the information is already shared in recent FRs and I don't have anything special or extra to add.

Hostess Bars:

The bars get going after 5/6 pm but I saw the streets come alive only after 8/9 pm.

Street 104: Bar 104 remains the best bar on this street in terms of atmosphere and attitude of girls. Quality is decent if you are used to Khmer faces. The bill can quickly get out of control if you don't contain your emotions. The girls can drink very fast and there is no defined time between drinks. All said the fun element is highest in this bar. ST was 50 + 10 BF. Didn't ask or negotiate for LT but it would have been between 70 to 80 I presume.

Some other bars such as Top 10, Airforce, Bunny, Oscar etc were just worth a peek in, not more than 3 or 5 girls inside. Issue was many of these were very young girls. It is probable that they might not barfine hence wise to ask upfront before investing too much into drinks. The worst experience was Rose bar. I felt that this bar has been hyped a lot in previous FRs or maybe I was here on a wrong day wrong time. Nonetheless I will not bother if I visit again. Girls seem to appear drugged and lazy, atmosphere was gloomy, slow service and no energy in the bar not to mention the cost of drinks compared to other bars on the street. Not worth my time and money.

Street 130 and 136:

Bars on these street are better in terms of quantity and quality of girls, sharkiness element for drinks is considerably higher. I visited a few, avoided candy for any encounter with LB. Surprisingly two more bars I entered Tiger and Xanadu also had LBs mixed in the crowd. This is not a good trend if it's evolving. I prefer clear segregation. This streets are where I would spend most of my time if I wanted to go bar hopping.

Other bylanes and street:

All bylanes connecting the main streets house bars which are worth a peek if you like someone. Most of the times its in and out buying just a bottle of water. I do not have any specific recommendations like Angry birds or honeypot or Loco, etc. I think you should get into a bar wherever you find any girl to your liking and walk away if you don't like rather than sticking to specific names which you would have read or heard.

Clubs:

Darling Darling:

This still remains one of the premium pick up clubs. Choices were good but preference to Chinese men is notable as some girls would like to restrict themselves and will quote non negotiable high price in case you engage. I picked up two ST gals from here, decent experience, nothing outstanding. Quotes for ST started at 150 USD but girls generally agreed at 100 USD. Service was templeted. Girls will hit the shower as soon as you get back, finish the job and go away, similar to LOS. I did repeat one girl for LT which was 200 USD and overheads were approx. 50, I. E. Food, drinks, tip, etc. By the time we finished the first pop it was already 1 am and most of the regular clubs close early so we could not go anywhere out. Going to pontoon with her would have been like taking sand to the beach which I consciously avoided. This experience was an exception and decent encounter for me but albeit expensive considering I was heading for a 9 day stay in Pattaya from here.

I took a look around the Casino floor, there were few girls available at the bar near the performance stage but nothing worth engaging with. This seems to be a pit stop for all working girls on the Casino floor and Darling Darling. Difficult to not get attracted to hot casino staff walking around. DD also has some good looking girls working for the bar but they don't converse much except for the bill you have to pay for the drinks. Always are in rush considering the crowd in the bar.

Pontoon:

It seems this is the only late night pick up club in town. I did see one or two Daring Darling girls turn up here but these ones I didn't want earlier either. It would not be fair to compare this club to Insomnia in pattaya as the quality and no of girls is significantly less comparatively. There aren't more options in this city hence I was here most of the nights. Some of the good ones start at 100 USD and I had one who walked away when I tried to negotiate. Other girls do agree on 70 or 50 depending upon the time of the night / early morning. Club stays open till early mornings but it gets boring after 3 or 4 am when the crowds thin out hence if you haven't found someone by this time you should call it a night. I repeated a girl from here and she was good experience.

There are some other clubs namely Epic, Club Cambodia, Royal, etc but I did not bother as these would be mostly local clubs and not worth the time and energy as I was alone.

Daytime Action (1 pm till 7 pm):

This continued to be a problem for me. The LT girl was out by 12 or 1 am and there was nothing to do till the bars got going in the evening. I had visited all key massage places earlier trip and did not want to repeat considering the cost and infrastructure at these places. Wechat girls start responding in the evening and it's not as quick and efficient as LOS. I had visited LeCyrcee last trip and wasn't keen on visiting again neither Shanghai. Golden Sorya mall is best avoided, nothing but dregs there. Unless you are really lucky and have time to kill, not worth.

I never made it to Sihanoukville as it was raining every day and I was advised that the roads would not be good and drive dangerous.

Prices are creeping up in Phnom Penh. Girls are asking more, drinks are more, tuck tuck guys want 2 USD for every ride. Food is not exactly cheap.

I like the afternoon G clubs, Soi 6 or Soi full love inn kind of scene which does not exist here. Besides going to Aeon mall you are stuck in the room in the afternoons due to heat or rain outside. Criminal waste of time when on a short trip. Night time club options are also limited. So is quality and quantity.

Phnom Penh continues to remain an option for short visit whenever I want break from Philippines or Thailand but will not substitute them for a long stay. Comparatively Jakarta has better looking girls, good infrastructure in terms of sauna Joints and Clubs but is closed environment hence not comparable.Great report and spot on with what PP is about. Have been there many times and agree that it is limited in terms of day time action and night time has only a few options at best. Still for a short time it is fun. Girls are sweet and can please. I agree that Pattaya has a lot more daytime action and easy to navigate around the city. PP hotels can also be a little tricky for taking girls back. What I enjoy about Pattaya is the soi 6 scene, G clubs and the beer bars. Just good fun before hitting the gogos and then clubs. So much to do in Pattaya but PP can also help to break things up, just like AC used to before the Koreans changed it.

Happy Hunting.

Uncle Volodya
09-11-17, 05:15
Cambodia has and is changing fast. Besides if you are after quality like me you will have to pay a premium irrespective of the country.

Darling darling girls are a mixed bag like everywhere else. A beer (Heineken) is approx 6 USD and couple of drinks trying to check the girls sets one back by 20 to 30 USD. ST being around 100 and other misc exp like travel, food, etc makes it a 150 to 175 USD experience. Definately not cheap for ST.

Naga is a predominant Chinese playground hence you also need to overcome that by spending time and money to find the girl you want.

All said a visit is definately recommended. You never know what might work for you when down there.Great report buddy. Very informative. It was great to have a chance to hang out in Pattaya last month.

Hugs,

Uncle-V.

IllusionHeart
09-11-17, 16:51
Great report and spot on with what PP is about. Have been there many times and agree that it is limited in terms of day time action and night time has only a few options at best. Still for a short time it is fun. Girls are sweet and can please. I agree that Pattaya has a lot more daytime action and easy to navigate around the city. PP hotels can also be a little tricky for taking girls back. What I enjoy about Pattaya is the soi 6 scene, G clubs and the beer bars. Just good fun before hitting the gogos and then clubs. So much to do in Pattaya but PP can also help to break things up, just like AC used to before the Koreans changed it.

Happy Hunting.Thank you for reading the FR. Let's hope things change for better in PNH.

IllusionHeart
09-11-17, 16:54
Great report buddy. Very informative. It was great to have a chance to hang out in Pattaya last month.

Hugs,

Uncle-V.Thank you UV. Are you back in pattaya?

Hope your Malaysia experience was first and last. Read your FR. Keep exploring for all of us buddy.

SlowAndEasy
09-11-17, 18:49
Great report, very informative. I have never been to PP before, though I have visited Siem Reap a couple of times. Maybe I should start with a weekend jaunt later this month.

Darling Darling is a $100 for ST? Are the ladies worth it? Only one way to tell. Inspect them yourself. 5555.

I was under the impression that Cambodia is the cheapest of all SEA countries to live in. Seems like that is changing fast.I will visit PP on my next trip, but my trip to Siem Ream was not that impressive as far as mongering was concerned. I find that the Cambodians have over priced themselves, and are much more sharky than Thai.

Sammy1968
09-15-17, 19:47
Hello,

First visit to PP coming up in three weeks.

Staying at Okay Boutique Hotel on 174 Street.

Wanting advice, is this OK in terms of taking the girls back to?

Not too far away from the action?

Assumed we could just grab a tuk tuk?

Advice and opinions gratefully accepted.

Cheers.

Vijai
09-16-17, 03:27
Thank you Natty. The girls I met during this trip were super sweet & sexy and all the girls were Khmer. I am hooked on Phnom; I will definitely stopover in BKK during my next trip.

Massa.

I popped into Massa one afternoon for a look; there were about 15 girls and I picked 2 cute girls for a massage. USD15 per girl for 30 minutes of massage. The massage was a damp squib. I enquired about 'boom boom' and was quoted USD60 per girl. I was not impressed by the massage hence did not partake.


A big thumbs up for your report. Sounds like you had a great time. Ain't Khmer girls sweet and a lotta fun!

1) 3 way: a novel approach for DD. I have never thought of it. Nice! Were all you DD girls Khmer? I like DD. Its another world there compared to the hostess bars. I think it is a better 5* Hotel FL pick up bar with younger sexier girls than Spasso at the Hyatt in BKK, but CJ's at the Mulia Hotel in Jakarta is the best and Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore has the most beautiful girls.

2) I don't think I ever checked out Intoxica Bar. Oasis was my favorite 136 ST bar back a few years ago when Avin, my super hottie worked there. She moved to Rose bar in 2015, but I lost track of her after that and sadly I didn't see her anywhere in 2017..

Pipe Layer99
09-16-17, 15:19
Thank you for reading my FR. I would recommend coming to PNH on one of your VISA runs for approx 2 to 3 days initially. Things are quite different and slow paced. Prices are not cheap for all things comparatively. Besides nothing much to do except bars and if you like to gamble then Naga Casino is also an option to spend time. Food scene ain't as great as LOS. If you like it here in your first trip then can definately revisit for a longer stay.Thanks. I appreciate your input. Being an expat staying overseas is cool. Then after 3 months in one place, it's nice to see a new place. I don't only travel for the visa run per se. I see it as an opportunity to see a new country and take a break from the norm. Plus I have done my homework on PP for the past two years. I have notes, places of interest all mapped out, and a buddy who lives there. So 1 week will be a nice little beak and a chance to try some Khmer girls. ;)

Tomasb
09-16-17, 15:33
Hello,

First visit to PP coming up in three weeks.

Staying at Okay Boutique Hotel on 174 Street.

Wanting advice, is this OK in terms of taking the girls back to?

Not too far away from the action?

Assumed we could just grab a tuk tuk?



Advice and opinions gratefully accepted.

Cheers.Great hotel and no issues bringing girls back. They collect her ID and she picks it up when she leaves. No joiner fee that I recall. The pool on top floor is great with nice view of PP. Find a girl who would look good in a bikini.

There tuk-tuk's outside the hotel and and any driver should know this hotel and street. There is a hotel next door to Hotel OK but they do not allow overnight guests. It's about a 5 minute tuk tuk to most places in the downtown area.

Roaming Viking
09-17-17, 05:44
Hi all, Check out youtube day time action. "You want boom boom?" Hey, I know this gal. Although I did not go with her, I remember her vividly. Actually there are some nice looking girls hanging around Sorya Mall; many of them come over from Pontoon next door or when they finish work at one of the many girlie bars around. They will come up to your table and just kind of sit down. $20 and up is a typical tip, everything included. Depending on the time of day, I should add. Late night hours are best for mongering, but be prepared to negotiate if you are dealing with Pontoon FLs. As for the others, who are available anytime, really, "up to you" seems to be the codeword.

I am worried about news about the renovation of Sorya mall. I hope they leave the food court alone. As I said, there some cuties around, but buyers beware. There some real skanks as well. Trust me, you will see the difference.

Anyone in the know please communicate with me by PM or post an update. I plan to be back in December.

Blanquiceleste
09-17-17, 16:15
Formula 1 weekend in Singapore. The whole world seems to be flying in here. What better time to get out of the Little Red Dot.

Day 1 - 14 Sep.

Flew in from Singapore and landed at around 2:30 pm. $30 for VoA. Cleared immigration and collected bags in no time. I paid the fixed fare of $12 for a taxi ride to the hotel. I was booked at Ohana PP Palace Hotel. More details in the hotels thread. Since this was a 3 day trip, I did not bother getting a SIM card, but it's roughly $4 for a week long plan.

Checked in at around 4:00 pm. After a quick shower, I stepped out to take in the sights the city has to offer. Wandered around the grid between 148 and 104, ducking in and out each street. Not much gets going before dusk in this city I guess. A few bars that were open on 136 had scant attendance.

Walked into a random bar on 136 and got a cold beer. As I was the only customer in that bar, the 6 girls in that bar surrounded me. I got a couple of them a drink each and waved the rest away. With this new found privacy (5555) I started fooling around with both girls. One of them was naughtier than the other. So I asked her for barfine and ST. $10 for barfine + $50 for ST. I offered $40 plus a good tip if I was happy. Since business was slow she accepted. Within 5 minutes we were back in room for my first taste of Khmer pussy in years.

A couple of hours later, I let her go, fixed myself a drink and relaxed for a while. I was biding my time for Darling Darling later that evening. By 8. 30 pm I stepped out again for some grub and then got a tuk tuk to Naga World. This being my first ever visit, I was quite impressed with the place. Now it is a far cry from Vegas or Macau but the place held itself nicely. However, I was not here for the slot machines or the blackjack tables. I was here for the chicks. And in that department they do not disappoint. There are chicks hanging out in the lobby, in the coffee shop lounge area and on the gambling floors. After a brief reconnaissance of the place I entered DD. I saw a bevy of beauties lined up against the bar table. At the far end of the room there were another bunch of girls lined up. Judging by the way they were dressed and how they were being directed by the staff, they appeared to be employed by the management for "services" while the ones against the bar table were likely freelancers. Within 15 minutes I was approached by 3 different girls. I decided to play ball with one of the cuties and offered to buy her a drink. As the drink arrived the girl got frisky and started grinding her ass against me. I responded by running my hands all over her lithe body. Then I started talking about services and investments. $100ST. At first I could not believe my ears but since I had RTFF, I was not fazed. I told the girl that money was not a problem but I wanted top notch service if she wanted a good tip. Before the clock struck 11:00 pm I was out from there with girl in tow. Went back to hotel and banged the daylights out of this awesome Khmer girl who took it like a real trooper. Took a break after round 1 and went to town again. But, sadly the experience was quite professional. Not the GFE we have grown to love in other SEA countries. Maybe I picked the pro. By 1. 30 am I let the girl go with $110. She was neither overjoyed not upset.

Time for Pontoon. Another tuk tuk and I was there in 10 minutes. As you enter the main door leading down a passage, to your left is a lounge / dance room that was empty. At the end of the passage was the main dance floor / bar which was packed. Very loud music, smoke hanging in the air and a general sausage fest. Curses! Across from the bar area, is another room that played different music and that was rather empty. I was told that place gets full after 3:00 am. Since it was my first night and my first time at Pontoon I decided to wait and check the place out. And it indeed filled up by quarter past 3 am. But nothing that caught my eye. Now fatigue was beginning to set on me so I decided to call it a night and headed back to the hotel, alone. Slept well.

Day 2 - 15 Sep.

Woke at 10:00 am and headed for breakfast on the rooftop. Nice serene views of the river, but too hot for open air dining. But there was nothing else to do in the city at least till 2 pm so I hung around with a coffee and fired up social media. Totally dead!! Pick any random app and it will draw a blank. So I went back to the room, changed and took a dip in the pool. Killed a couple of hours this way.

As 2:00 pm came around I went back to the room, showered and changed and stepped out again. Found a lovely noodle soup place close to the hotel. Filled up. Walked around. The place was very quiet, almost deserted. I was starting to get anxious about an afternoon session. I did not want to go back to the bar I went to yesterday. And it was really hot to continue walking around this way. So after an hour of wandering, I went back to the hotel and got a nap. Headed out again by 6:00 pm. By now the bars were coming to life and nearly all of them were inviting customers to come in and have a drink. I went from bar to bar ordering only a bottle of water till I found a really cute chick I wanted to take out at Xanadu. This is a mixed bar, so keep your eyes and ears open. I got a couple of drinks for her and her friends (one of who was a LB). But I had a really good time fooling around and playing whatever music I liked. I think close to $30 in drinks alone. $10 for the barfine. $70 for LT. And boy or boy, this one was a fantastic decision. Everything about the girl and the time we spent was memorable. Just one complaint. She is a bit aggressive when it comes to DFK. And while kissing all over the body, she bites!

We headed back to the room by 8:00 pm for a romp. Since she was now my "girlfriend" I took her out to dinner and then took a nice long walk holding hands along the riverside. By 11:00 pm we were at it like rabbits again. After that we went to Pontoon and shook a leg. Stopped by a local stall near GSM for some food at 3:00 am. Returned to the hotel and slept like babies. Woke by noon to a great BBBJ that finished in doggy. At this point I was ready to cut her loose, but she just did not want to leave. I had make some lame excuse to get her going. Paid her $80 including the tip and kissed her goodbye. Went back to sleep.

Day 3 - 16 Sep.

Woke after a couple of hours to the realization that it was already my last day here. I had a flight back the next day at 12 noon. Got some food and again walked around the grid of bars. This time nothing caught my fancy for an afternoon session. Probably because I was so spent from last night.

The day was very quiet again. After 4 pm I got out and ducked in and out of bars for a few hours. Finally made my way to Street 104 and peeped into the bars there. I had read a lot about Rose bar (courtesy Natty) but on my visit, I could see only sad sullen faces inside. No customers.

Stopped at One Zero Four where I spotted a real hot chick. Again splashed cash on drinks for girls and picked the one I wanted. Rinse and repeat from Day 2.

Day 4 - 17 Sep.

In the morning by 9:00 am I let go with $80, packed up, checked out and headed to the airport. I took a tuk tuk back for $7. Flight was on time and as the aircraft pushed back I made a mental note to come back here soon.

SIDE NOTE. I managed to catch the Formula 1 race in the evening. Mighty disappointing for a Ferrari fan, but a race in wet weather can always be tricky. It is incredibly hard to get a photograph of the cars whizzing past, unless you have a real professional camera. And skills.

In summary. PP is great but only for a short time. There is absolutely nothing to do between 12 noon and 6 pm, assuming you have a LT staying over from the previous night at least till noon. If not, then you are staring at a prospect of going without a pussy for nearly 18 Hours on a mongering trip. Sacrilege.

As Illusion has pointed out the place is not exactly cheap anymore. Flights roughly cost $200 round trip from SG. Could be more depending on when you book. Visa costs $30. Good hotels with a river view will cost you $60-$75 a night. Tuk tuks will haggle for $2 on every ride. DD girls won't budge from $100 for ST. They might agree to $150 for LT, but $200 is the norm. Girls in the bars around 136 and 130 will ask $50 for ST and $80 to $100 for LT. But you can negotiate here. $10-$12 barfines. Drinks are not expensive but the tab can easily get out of hand if you are not paying attention. Food is still very cheap IMHO. If you eat only Western food then be prepared to fork out more $$ All in all, a cool $1000-$1500 for a weekend of fun. Not very different from LOS. But the beauty of LOS is that one can have fun for roughly half this amount throughout the day. But the Khmer girls are a refreshing change from the Thai girls, most of whom have long forgotten the art of GFE. Exposure and market advancement does wonders to the service population, NOT.

IllusionHeart
09-17-17, 17:13
But the Khmer girls are a refreshing change from the Thai girls, most of whom have long forgotten the art of GFE. Exposure and market advancement does wonders to the service population, NOT.This was a real quick and short trip. You have managed to cover all types of venues this city has on offer except massage places which even I won't bother again with after my experience in the first trip.

Mixed experiences with girls also made me consider PNH as an option but the prices are something to be really factored in comparison with LOS. They do add up eventually. $1000 for a 3 day trip is fairly expensive in my opinion.

The limited options might make a long stay slightly monotonous and boring. I may have to consider living a nocturnal / vampirish life here and sleep in the daytime if I do ever get bored with LOS, Philippines and Jakarta and end up here for a longer stay. The other option is to club a few days side trip to Sihanoukville and I have been advised by my close buddies to take girl along with from PNH and not risk on finding one there.

But appreciate that you have taken this trip, shared with all. This intel like other posted on board will surely benefit someone who plans to or is visiting in near future.

PommyChris
09-17-17, 23:39
Hi guys,

About to make my first visit to town, and have been told the sun and moon hotel is good. Anybody know if its guest friendly? (I'd hate to waste my time on a hotel that was not).

Cheers in advance.

Blanquiceleste
09-18-17, 01:54
You have managed to cover all types of venues this city has on offer except massage places which even I won't bother again with after my experience in the first trip.

The limited options might make a long stay slightly monotonous and boring.

This intel like other posted on board will surely benefit someone who plans to or is visiting in near future.Thank you for the kind words Illusion. Frankly, I do not think I can ever do a trip here that is longer than a weekend. The sheer paucity of options make a full holiday to this city very difficult.

Sure, one can go to Darling Darling every night and pick a girl. The quality is pretty good there. But the price tag of $100 for ST is eye watering. Not to mention the additional $20 you will spend on drinks. And there is no guarantee the girl will turn out as good in bed as advertised.

Pontoon for poontang is not my idea of fun. I have stated this previously on the LOS forum as well. Going to a disco and staying up till 5 am to pick up a drunk chick does not work for me.

As for the bars on the grid between 136 and 104, you will grow tired after 2 rounds. Only a few have talent that is worth any consideration.

One could cut a side trip to Snooky, but only if you have a reliable performer with you who will not chew your brain when not fucking.

So, once again I will say this. LOS is by far the most favorable mongering destination in Asia, perhaps the world for a variety of reasons. Simply unrivaled.

Xpartan
09-18-17, 06:16
Hi guys,

About to make my first visit to town, and have been told the sun and moon hotel is good. Anybody know if its guest friendly? (I'd hate to waste my time on a hotel that was not).

Cheers in advance.I highly recommend it. It's a solid 3. 5-4 star hotel with an excellent rooftop pool. I felt it was important in that climate.

They charge $10 for a girl unless you book double occupancy (which will cost you $10 more per night). If you pull girls more than once a day, booking double makes sense.

The breakfast was decent, but pricey for PP. Right across the street there is a coffee shop. Also kinda pricey, though.

If you want quiet, ask for the internal room. No view, but quiet as it gets.

If I went there again, though, I would splurge for a suite. Just a little more expensive, but looks very nice in the picture.

Free2
09-19-17, 12:47
So, once again I will say this. LOS is by far the most favorable mongering destination in Asia, perhaps the world for a variety of reasons. Simply unrivaled.Am I the only one wondering what the heck "LOS" is?!

Member #4698
09-19-17, 13:32
So, once again I will say this. LOS is by far the most favorable mongering destination in Asia, perhaps the world for a variety of reasons. Simply unrivaled.LOS is Numero Uno. No question about it. The Land of Smiles: I can't think of another place that has it all. Of course, you can always compare LOS 2017 to LOS 1992 and '92 comes out on top or you can compare Phnom Penh 1995 to BKK 2017 and I think Phnom '95 was more fun too, but this type of comparisons is pointless really because we are living in 2017 and have no choice about it. Truth be told, no destination today is better than it was 20 years ago. But I like visiting Jakarta, MNL, & Macau today as well as LOS because the local girls are sexy and friendly and I like variety in my Asian cuisine, but those cities do not have as much to offer as BKK especially in the afternoons unless you invite your favorite girls over for pool parties. 555.

And I still like Phnom. The girls are unique and very nice and I like the food & culture. One of these days I might invite a favorite Khmer girl to come along with me on a short trip to Battambang or one of the islands. Kampot & Kep are pleasant and I highly recommend Siem Reap if you have never been there.

On Phnom Penh: I still can't think of a better place for a 3,4,6-day visa run although next trip I am going on a visa run to Yangon instead. I went to Burma (Mandalay, Bagan, Yangon) around 7 years ago before the country opened up and I had a good time. I particularly enjoyed the sights and liked the people, but I did not fool around back then. So, I am going back for a taste of Burmese girls and to check out one of the Andaman beaches.

P.S. I enjoyed reading your trip report. You described everything just the way it is.

SlowAndEasy
09-19-17, 13:44
Thank you for the kind words Illusion. Frankly, I do not think I can ever do a trip here that is longer than a weekend. The sheer paucity of options make a full holiday to this city very difficult.Wow, great review. I will spend 2 nights in PP at the end of October.

Have you been to Bali? Bali will be more for sightseeing, but any recommendations would be appreciated.

Blanquiceleste
09-20-17, 01:42
LOS is Numero Uno. No question about it. The Land of Smiles: I can't think of another place that has it all. Of course, you can always compare LOS 2017 to LOS 1992 and '92 comes out on top or you can compare Phnom Penh 1995 to BKK 2017 and I think Phnom '95 was more fun too, but this type of comparisons is pointless really because we are living in 2017 and have no choice about it. Truth be told, no destination today is better than it was 20 years ago. But I like visiting Jakarta, MNL, & Macau today as well as LOS because the local girls are sexy and friendly and I like variety in my Asian cuisine, but those cities do not have as much to offer as BKK especially in the afternoons unless you invite your favorite girls over for pool parties. 555.

And I still like Phnom. The girls are unique and very nice and I like the food & culture. One of these days I might invite a favorite Khmer girl to come along with me on a short trip to Battambang or one of the islands. Kampot & Kep are pleasant and I highly recommend Siem Reap if you have never been there.

On Phnom Penh: I still can't think of a better place for a 3,4,6-day visa run although next trip I am going on a visa run to Yangon instead. I went to Burma (Mandalay, Bagan, Yangon) around 7 years ago before the country opened up and I had a good time. I particularly enjoyed the sights and liked the people, but I did not fool around back then. So, I am going back for a taste of Burmese girls and to check out one of the Andaman beaches.

P.S. I enjoyed reading your trip report. You described everything just the way it is.Thanks Natty for your kind words. Very valuable suggestions for a quick getaway from PP, if I were staying longer. I would love to go to Myanmar as well, but the scene there seems pretty dull? At least the intel on the net suggests so. Do you think people are keeping things to themselves there?

Banana Boi
09-20-17, 05:07
Thanks for the report, Blancqui. A great resource for those who have never been to PP. Like yourself, Pontoon is not my style. I'd prefer to have my Khmer girl planted in my room well before Pontoon gets going. DD and bar girls are better looking too imo. Daytime is a struggle unless you know PP girls who will grab some lunch with you for free. Kudos to you guys for looking around in the day. I'd rather save my energy and head out when the bars get going at 8 pm.


$1000 for a 3 day trip is fairly expensive in my opinion.


All in all, a cool $1000-$1500 for a weekend of fun. I must be a damn Cheap Charlie in PP compared to you guys. I can't even fathom being able to spend this much money on a 3 day trip to PP and that includes me going to higher end restaurants in the Street 360 area.

EliteCeasar
09-20-17, 08:26
Just try out one Wechat girl. Did a video call she's very good looking but turn out she's a he. Just got my good time ruin by that bastard. Recommend check everything out before taking them.

IllusionHeart
09-20-17, 12:50
Just try out one Wechat girl. Did a video call she's very good looking but turn out she's a he. Just got my good time ruin by that bastard. Recommend check everything out before taking them.Thanks for sharing. This is all part and parcel of the game or hunt. Happens at some point to many of us.

I was stood up by a girl from wechat in PNH during my last. She kept sending me location update on Wechat till the last 15 minutes. She never turned up and I wasted good hour or two, must have got a better paying customer then me I thought. I was right as she didn't unfriend me and later I saw her posting pics of dinner and gifts with what seemed to be one of her regular customers from Thailand. I kept wondering why would a Thai guy come to PNH and have a Khmer girl when his own kind are plentiful and easily available back home. Guess everyone craves for variety at some point of time.

Besides you were smart enough to do a VC beforehand. Some guys end up having the girl coming in the room directly or creating a scene in the lobby.

Hence my recommendation to all is to always meet a girl in the lobby despite all chats and video engagements, etc and then take things ahead from there. Especially for the girls from social media you have to be slightly more patient and careful.

Blanquiceleste
09-20-17, 13:22
I must be a damn Cheap Charlie in PP compared to you guys. I can't even fathom being able to spend this much money on a 3 day trip to PP and that includes me going to higher end restaurants in the Street 360 area.At first I thought it is ridiculous too, but here is the math.

Flights $200.

Visa $30.

Airport transfers by Taxi (to and fro) $24.

Hotel $120.

Room Service + Tips $20.

Food $60.

Bar Entertainment $150.

Chicks from DD $300.

Chicks from Bars $240.

Miscellaneous $50.

Total of $1200 rounded off. Tell me where is the play? Am I splashing too much on drinks in the bars and entertainment? Am I splashing on DD girls? Or am I overpaying the LT chick from a hostess bar?

IllusionHeart
09-20-17, 13:40
I must be a damn Cheap Charlie in PP compared to you guys. I can't even fathom being able to spend this much money on a 3 day trip to PP and that includes me going to higher end restaurants in the Street 360 area.You definately are not a cheap Charlie and we all know that buddy. Its individual preferences that come into play here regarding visiting entertainment places. If you exclude DD and Pontoon then your expenses automatically will be down to $100 or $150 per day on entertainment.

I burned through an average of almost $300+ every day for 6 days. I was doing hostess bars, DD and Pontoon almost every night. I sure did spend less than half on a daily basis in PYX.

Member #4698
09-20-17, 13:58
At first I thought it is ridiculous too, but here is the math.

Flights $200.
Visa $30.
Airport transfers by Taxi (to and fro) $24.
Hotel $120.
Room Service + Tips $20.
Food $60.
Bar Entertainment $150.
Chicks from DD $300.
Chicks from Bars $240.
Miscellaneous $50.

Total of $1200 rounded off. Tell me where is the play? Am I splashing too much on drinks in the bars and entertainment? Am I splashing on DD girls? Or am I overpaying the LT chick from a hostess bar?You tell it like it is, but I always play a little trick on my expenditure account. I count separately Hotel, Food, Drink, and Misc charges because they would be roughly the same amount anywhere. It is kind of like a fixed cost of travel although certain cities have higher fixed costs than others obviously. The variable cost is how much I spend on girls. So, by my rose-colored cost accounting method PP cost you $540 or $90/ day. This sounds so much better. Ha Ha.

In answer to your questions: No, no, & no although I would add that in my limited experience with DD chicks, the 1st night is ST and 100 bucks with no one watching the clock and whenever I chose to see a particular DD girl a 2nd time, ST always turned into LT and the price remained the same at 100 bucks although a romantic dinner at a nice Khmer restaurant was part of the 2nd get together. But since I don't count dinner as a part of my chick expense account there was no increase in cost. 555.

Banana Boi
09-20-17, 14:41
The variable cost is how much I spend on girls. So, by my rose-colored cost accounting method PP cost you $540 or $90/ day. $90 per day is fine but Blancqui's numbers are based on a 3 day trip making his average on girls $180 USD per day. When most bar girls other than DD girls go for $40-50ST and $50-70 all night the number is more than I'd likely be spending in PP.

Blanquiceleste
09-20-17, 14:53
You tell it like it is, but I always play a little trick on my expenditure account. I count separately Hotel, Food, Drink, and Misc charges because they would be roughly the same amount anywhere. It is kind of like a fixed cost of travel although certain cities have higher fixed costs than others obviously. The variable cost is how much I spend on girls. So, by my rose-colored cost accounting method PP cost you $540 or $90/ day. This sounds so much better. Ha Ha.

In answer to your questions: No, no, & no although I would add that in my limited experience with DD chicks, the 1st night is ST and 100 bucks with no one watching the clock and whenever I chose to see a particular DD girl a 2nd time, ST always turned into LT and the price remained the same at 100 bucks although a romantic dinner at a nice Khmer restaurant was part of the 2nd get together. But since I don't count dinner as a part of my chick expense account there was no increase in cost. 555.You're THE man! 5555.

I must borrow a page from your entertainment guide on my upcoming trip in October.

Blanquiceleste
09-20-17, 14:59
$90 per day is fine but Blancqui's numbers are based on a 3 day trip making his average on girls $180 USD per day. When most bar girls other than DD girls go for $40-50ST and $50-70 all night the number is more than I'd likely be spending in PP.My budgeting is based on one DD girl and one girl from a hostess bar each night, which amounts to $180 per day. It is obviously not what I would like to spend, but then as the old saying goes.

"I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted. ".

- WC Fields.

EliteCeasar
09-20-17, 16:40
Thanks for sharing. This is all part and parcel of the game or hunt. Happens at some point to many of us.

I was stood up by a girl from wechat in PNH during my last. She kept sending me location update on Wechat till the last 15 minutes. She never turned up and I wasted good hour or two, must have got a better paying customer then me I thought. I was right as she didn't unfriend me and later I saw her posting pics of dinner and gifts with what seemed to be one of her regular customers from Thailand. I kept wondering why would a Thai guy come to PNH and have a Khmer girl when his own kind are plentiful and easily available back home. Guess everyone craves for variety at some point of time.

Besides you were smart enough to do a VC beforehand. Some guys end up having the girl coming in the room directly or creating a scene in the lobby.

Hence my recommendation to all is to always meet a girl in the lobby despite all chats and video engagements, etc and then take things ahead from there. Especially for the girls from social media you have to be slightly more patient and careful.I've chat with 3 other account who claimed to be Mommy and offer me alot of nice girl with the price of $120 per shot. I'm still considering about this. Should I try again and hope this one is good or shall I try ST at DD for once?

Member #4698
09-20-17, 20:03
$90 per day is fine but Blancqui's numbers are based on a 3 day trip making his average on girls $180 USD per day. My bad. I wonder how I came up with the idea it was a 6-day trip? Note to self; don't do any number crunching until that 2nd cup of coffee kicks in. Still, Blancqui did all right in my book. 2 girls a night; 1 DD girl & 1 hostess girl - that's a full dance card.

WC Fields was a very funny guy. I still enjoy his comedies. "Never Give a Sucker an Even Break" & "The Bank Dick" are my favorites among many. Both films are completely, unapologetically, politically incorrect and hilarious.

MichelJ
09-20-17, 20:25
Three months ago I never paid more than $30 for ST and $50 voor LT. Some girls will ask more but. Take it or leave it.


Girls in the bars around 136 and 130 will ask $50 for ST and $80 to $100 for LT.

Blanquiceleste
09-21-17, 01:45
Three months ago I never paid more than $30 for ST and $50 voor LT. Some girls will ask more but. Take it or leave it.I will take it. Thanks for the insight.

Banana Boi
09-21-17, 05:15
Three months ago I never paid more than $30 for ST and $50 voor LT. Some girls will ask more but. Take it or leave it.Would be helpful to the rest of us if you named some of the bars where girls are going for $30 US ST. It's not my experience in PP bars in the main RLD. TIA.

IllusionHeart
09-21-17, 16:14
I've chat with 3 other account who claimed to be Mommy and offer me alot of nice girl with the price of $120 per shot. I'm still considering about this. Should I try again and hope this one is good or shall I try ST at DD for once?I would recommend going to DD to check out the scene atleast once if you have the time and can spend as it will eventually cost you approx $150 considering the transport, girl, drinks and tips if any. Do note that there is no assurance of service despite spending that amount of money. There is an advantage of having checked the goods in person and spent some time over drinks compared to social media.

However if you have the time and energy you can try the mommy route. I have always preferred interacting with individuals on social media. This is primarily to avoid the intermediaries else hostess bars are always a better bet. $120 is a lot of money to be spending on Wechat. I have had good experience at $50 and you can get good girls at this price in PNH. I would really want to spend time and check the girl out in person over a few drinks if I am to shell out $120. Start low at around $40 and see where it takes you. I am sure some option will arise from these mommies as well at a price which is not as crazy as $120.

I use social media as a filler and not my main scene hence less disappointments and wastage of time and energy. Try all options and decide what suits you the most in this city.

You have mentioned being a local guy, suggest you start exploring the Khmer beer houses. Better option and choices going there with locals. If you can speak the local language even basic then opportunities will be endless.

Blanquiceleste
09-21-17, 16:15
Would be helpful to the rest of us if you named some of the bars where girls are going for $30 US ST. It's not my experience in PP bars in the main RLD. TIA.Must be the chicken farm girls or the ones standing under Japanese Friendship Bridge. But hey! What do I know? I just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) away my money! 5555.

Forever69
09-21-17, 23:27
Would be helpful to the rest of us if you named some of the bars where girls are going for $30 US ST. It's not my experience in PP bars in the main RLD. TIA.It's not so much where you get them but how. If I get to talk to one I never ask about prices. I chat with them or have a drink and get their number as I never have time today.
I call them another day early afternoon and ask them to my guesthouse. After they relax and have sex I give them 15 or 20 $. Depending on performance. They all come back another afternoon. They give good service too. Try it.
i come to phnom penh frequently ,my budget there is 100 a day for everything but the flight.

EliteCeasar
09-22-17, 08:15
I would recommend going to DD to check out the scene atleast once if you have the time and can spend as it will eventually cost you approx $150 considering the transport, girl, drinks and tips if any. Do note that there is no assurance of service despite spending that amount of money. There is an advantage of having checked the goods in person and spent some time over drinks compared to social media.

However if you have the time and energy you can try the mommy route. I have always preferred interacting with individuals on social media. This is primarily to avoid the intermediaries else hostess bars are always a better bet. $120 is a lot of money to be spending on Wechat. I have had good experience at $50 and you can get good girls at this price in PNH. I would really want to spend time and check the girl out in person over a few drinks if I am to shell out $120. Start low at around $40 and see where it takes you. I am sure some option will arise from these mommies as well at a price which is not as crazy as $120.

I use social media as a filler and not my main scene hence less disappointments and wastage of time and energy. Try all options and decide what suits you the most in this city.

You have mentioned being a local guy, suggest you start exploring the Khmer beer houses. Better option and choices going there with locals. If you can speak the local language even basic then opportunities will be endless.I prefer quality instead making the beer house is not on my list to finding girls. Plus some of those beer house are messy which is not my preference. How much do you usually pay for SNS girl? Do they go out for the afternoon session?

Sammy1968
09-22-17, 20:15
Will be my first time in PP / Cambodia.

A question, can you get US $ at the airport from cash machines using a credit card?

What about in the city?

Bringing what I think I need, but thinking in case I need more. When that ST becomes a LT.

Thanks.

MichelJ
09-23-17, 18:33
Would be helpful to the rest of us if you named some of the bars where girls are going for $30 US ST. It's not my experience in PP bars in the main RLD. TIA.All girly bars I visited in Street 136 and 130, for example Candy Bar, The Corner, Helicopter Bar, Fuel, Loco, Angry Birds, etc.


Will be my first time in PP / Cambodia.

A question, can you get US $ at the airport from cash machines using a credit card?

What about in the city?

Bringing what I think I need, but thinking in case I need more. When that ST becomes a LT.No problem to get USD from the ATM at the airport. Also in the city you will get USD. At the river side near Street 130/136 you can change EUR into USD or change 100 USD notes into smaller notes.

Blanquiceleste
09-24-17, 05:38
Will be my first time in PP / Cambodia.

A question, can you get US $ at the airport from cash machines using a credit card?

What about in the city?

Bringing what I think I need, but thinking in case I need more. When that ST becomes a LT.

Thanks.ATM's will dispense cash as you need. But I did not see many Money Exchange booths in the city. Best to bring what you need and ration it out for the trip.

IllusionHeart
09-24-17, 12:46
I prefer quality instead making the beer house is not on my list to finding girls. Plus some of those beer house are messy which is not my preference. How much do you usually pay for SNS girl? Do they go out for the afternoon session?For ST $40 to 60 range and for LT $60 to 100. I have never got any afternoon session only evenings and night.

However YMMV.

Tcvve
09-27-17, 14:46
Will be in Phnom Penh next month. Staying 30 days near the Sorya Mall.

Looking for reliable Visa Shop in PP to handle my paper work getting a new 60 day (single) Tourist Visa for Thailand. Normally my hotel did this for me but currently closed for renovation.

Address for moto driver would be helpful.

Thanks.

TC.

Kniom
10-02-17, 10:39
Will be in Phnom Penh next month. Staying 30 days near the Sorya Mall.

Looking for reliable Visa Shop in PP to handle my paper work getting a new 60 day (single) Tourist Visa for Thailand. Normally my hotel did this for me but currently closed for renovation.

Address for moto driver would be helpful.

Thanks.

TC.For years I always extended my Visa at "Lucky Lucky Motorbike Shop". Never had any problems. Always proper service. They are located at Monivong Blvd. Not far from Capitol.

Mark Inspire
10-03-17, 15:04
Hello,

I will be getting an opportunity to visit Phnom Penh soon in this month.

I have gone through the various reports here. Have a few queries:

1. Is Dara Airport Hotel girl-friendly?

2. Are the rates for both Mean Haur & '252 Massa' same. Namely $7 for massage and $25-30 for FS? Or have the rates gone up?

3. Heard that the bar girls and FL have rooms near the bars that can be used for ST. Will those rooms be having basic cleanliness and are they safe?

Thanks in advance!

Mark.

Banana Boi
10-04-17, 18:56
Do bars all close during stat holidays in PP?

JesseJames
10-05-17, 03:55
Do bars all close during stat holidays in PP?What's a stat holiday?

SoundGuy1202
10-05-17, 04:09
Newbie in PP. Need a transport for a party of 5 from airport to Nagaworld hotel. Any suggestions? A Toyota Alphard quoted by the hotel cost usd 55. Do I have any other options? Thanks in advance.

Banana Boi
10-05-17, 04:46
Statutory holiday aka National Holiday aka Public holiday.

https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/cambodia/2017

HansOuchi
10-05-17, 12:22
Hello,

2. Are the rates for both Mean Haur & '252 Massa' same. Namely $7 for massage and $25-30 for FS? Or have the rates gone upI just went there couple days ago.

1. Massage 1 HR asked for $15, and it has to pay first. - I paid $10, and it can be cheaper if you spend more time barging, I guess.

2. Asked $50 & 60 for FS, I paid $40, and it can be cheaper if spending more time to bargain, I guess.

It's my first time going massa, I had a long day working, and it was the reason that I didn't spend more time barging.

Hope it helps.

Mark Inspire
10-06-17, 06:44
I just went there couple days ago.

1. Massage 1 HR asked for $15, and it has to pay first. - I paid $10, and it can be cheaper Thanks a lot for the info. Will certainly try for the best possible rates.

Do you know if Hotel Mean Haur is better or is 252 Massa better? Or are there any other places like this with decent rooms?

Thanks!

Banana Boi
10-06-17, 10:27
Newbie in PP. Need a transport for a party of 5 from airport to Nagaworld hotel. Any suggestions? A Toyota Alphard quoted by the hotel cost usd 55. Do I have any other options? Thanks in advance.Standard rate for taxi from PP airport to Riverside area is flat rate $12. Just confirm with the taxi driver when you get in. You will need 2 taxis so $24 total. Not sure if the driver will charge $1 or $2 more for additional passengers.

Sammon
10-06-17, 13:34
Newbie in PP. Need a transport for a party of 5 from airport to Nagaworld hotel. Any suggestions? A Toyota Alphard quoted by the hotel cost usd 55. Do I have any other options? Thanks in advance.Transportation request from hotel always costs more but you arrive in style. Since you are 5 persons sharing it maybe worth it.

No need to haggle with the taxi drivers outside. Considering you are staying at Naga and it is expensive for drinks, food, girls you should not be looking for saving few dollars.

Member #4531
10-07-17, 14:04
Two unrelated questions.

1) Can someone suggest a dance club (not DD or Pontoon) with nice local ladies who like to dance? I'm not necessarily looking for WG, I just want to buy her some drinks and dance the night away.

2) Anyone got a list of ST rooms with rates in 51 or BKK1 area. A place that won't require ID or ask questions about my guests?

Thanks.

Kniom
10-07-17, 22:54
Two unrelated questions.

1) Can someone suggest a dance club (not DD or Pontoon) with nice local ladies who like to dance? I'm not necessarily looking for WG, I just want to buy her some drinks and dance the night away.

2) Anyone got a list of ST rooms with rates in 51 or BKK1 area. A place that won't require ID or ask questions about my guests?

Thanks.New Castle Hotel. Opposite Sorya Mall.

Meo Den
10-08-17, 05:19
I just went there couple days ago.

1. Massage 1 HR asked for $15, and it has to pay first. - I paid $10, and it can be cheaper if you spend more time barging, I guess.

2. Asked $50 & 60 for FS, I paid $40, and it can be cheaper if spending more time to bargain, I guess.

It's my first time going massa, I had a long day working, and it was the reason that I didn't spend more time barging.

Hope it helps.I was there yesterday afternoon.

I took the lone Viet No. 21 (red badge). Mid-20's, nice body if a bit chunky around the middle. Three tattoos (right wrist left breast tramp stamp).

Friendly enough, decent massage, good deep sucking but not much of it, tight covered boomboom. She was happy with $25. I paid $7 at the desk on the way out.

She isn't a bad choice. Currently the selection there is dreadful.

Meo Den
10-08-17, 05:46
This is strictly for newbies. Others please ignore.

Massage brothel variously known as '168' '252' 'Yang Mei' 'Yang Chou'.

1) Do not arrive by tuktuk or motodop.

2) Have $7 exact change for massage.

3) Do not approach the desk. Sit at fish bowl and make selection. Casually confirm with staff you know the price is $7 / hour.

4) Once in room with girl, tell her you want a massage. Fairly early in the proceedings let her know that you pay $25 for nyum nyum boom boom. Add that you pay the cashier $7.

5) Give her time to agree. Usual rules of negotiation: be pleasant, friendly, stick to your price.

6) Afterwards, give her the agreed fee, as opposed to more than the agreed fee.

7) Walk with her to the cashier and hand him the $7. They may try to charge you more if you overrun the 60 minutes, so you might like to note the time.

Banana Boi
10-08-17, 22:04
1) Do not arrive by tuktuk or motodop.Is there an extra fee and, if so, how much? Is there somewhere nearby we can tell them to drop us off at?

I notice you describe the girl you chose as chubby. Are the hot girls $25 USD?

I've never visited a FS massage parlor in PP and still contemplating if it's worth the effort to get to one.

Meo Den
10-09-17, 04:33
Is there an extra fee and, if so, how much? Is there somewhere nearby we can tell them to drop us off at?

I notice you describe the girl you chose as chubby. Are the hot girls $25 USD?

I've never visited a FS massage parlor in PP and still contemplating if it's worth the effort to get to one.There were no hot girls there. She was the most attractive, 7-.

I think it's important to make it clear to them that you 'pay all girls the same'. Certainly negotiations won't work if some think you pay others more. And they will tell each other what you pay.

There have been hot girls occasionally, and I pay them $25.

Most recently No. 11 'Davy' - about 21, cute with big eyes, pale skin, slim long legged with bouncing tits. 9-. Could be a model. She would wave to me from the bowl on return visits, so the price must have been mutually satisfactory.

Most of these girls (including the ones who are not hot) have told me they have got $60 for covered bjs, $80 for FS from some punters. One very nice but definitely not cute girl showed me $100 she had just got from a Russian. And that was a couple of years ago.

Undoubtedly there is strong upward pressure on prices. Just look at this forum. So even more need to be sensible I would suggest.

SoundGuy1202
10-09-17, 04:50
Standard rate for taxi from PP airport to Riverside area is flat rate $12. Just confirm with the taxi driver when you get in. You will need 2 taxis so $24 total. Not sure if the driver will charge $1 or $2 more for additional passengers.Thanks. At least I know the going rate. Appreciate the response.


Transportation request from hotel always costs more but you arrive in style. Since you are 5 persons sharing it maybe worth it.

No need to haggle with the taxi drivers outside. Considering you are staying at Naga and it is expensive for drinks, food, girls you should not be looking for saving few dollars.Many thanks. I would probably choose this route as is my first time there. Just wanted to know how much I am being fleeced for. :

Actually, my party likes to go KTV. Me more curious on St136 type bars. Maybe because of my liking of Angeles City, PH. Haha.

UsaInEurope
10-11-17, 11:13
So these Cambodian hotties are AMAZING. I had such a much better time than in Bangkok. But I love the Cambodian look the best. Breasts, darker skin, rounder bodies. And to be surrounded and felt up in the bar by 3 girls with more coming over all the time and girl drinks are only $3 each.

Anyway, after a couple girls drinks on my first night there, I ended up with this 20 year old amazing girl with maybe the best natural breasts I've ever had the pleasure of playing with. Fooled around in Intoxica for a while then went to my hotel.

NOTE -- Intoxica had the best looking women both nights I went out.

NOTE -- Point Boutique Hotel is right on the red light drag and is girl friendly.

I could have held out for $50 long term but she wanted $60 and WTF. I'm not a cheapskate, doesn't mean much to me, means a ton to her. So, fine. $60. Cheap by any international standard. Shoot me if you want for "Raising the rate for everyone else. ".

She went in back after we made the deal and I paid the $10 bar fine and I expected her to change. Nope! Walked straight into my hotel with her boobs nearly completely hanging out the side. Handed her ID to the front desk guy and we went up. She must have taken 3 showers but then came out in a towel and did the usual -- make out, much boob play, gave her oral, BBBJ, put the rubber on, lots of positions, came hard.

Now, the surprise of the night was -- her right breast lactated! She said she was surprised by this and said she wasn't pregnant and didn't have a kid. She didn't look like she had a kid but who knows about 1-3 months pregnant. Anyway she seemed somewhat legitimately surprised by the milk coming out but I couldn't lap it up fast enough! She even got into it a bit, spraying everywhere hahahaha.

NOTE -- these girls don't carry condoms. Provide your own!

Then we laid there for a bit talking about how she likes white guys and wants a boyfriend. I was already getting hard a second time and just slid it right in and came again quickly. Repeat in the morning and I send her on her way.

HIGHLY recommend Phnom Penh. So much cheap sex everywhere in this area with the smoking hottest babes I've seen.

Adventurer1
10-11-17, 16:50
At UsaInEurope.

Good review! This bar is at 136st? And the other girls was that hot? Remember name of the girl in photo?

UsaInEurope
10-12-17, 06:51
At UsaInEurope.

Good review! This bar is at 136st?



And the other girls was that hot? Remember name of the girl in photo?
**No 57 Street 130 Sangkat Phsarkandal 1, Phnom Penh, Cambodia
**No, I didn't understand it. But she is short (maybe 5'0) and wears her dress with her big naturals half hanging out the sides. She's very sweet in the club, too.

Banana Boi
10-12-17, 18:07
In PP now. I'm not an expert by any means I think this is trip #5 to PP in 2 years. What I do know is this is by far the best lineup of girls I have ever seen. Almost every non ladyboy bar had something decent.
Even the bars that used to be filled with old chubby ladies like on Street 118 have younger girls now.

Banana Boi
10-15-17, 05:05
Saturday night bars were not nearly as good as Thursday or Friday. Not even close to half the girls around so I ended up going to visit my regulars at a small bar with only 6 girls.

ScottoD
10-18-17, 12:38
Apologies for the delay in responding. I usually write a report and then forget that I ever did. No issues with bringing girls up in vacation boutique hotel, though admittedly I did get a small discount on the room as I frequently book through agoda and it was on promotion. I think the regular rate for that room is $40 per night.

Thanks to the others for the info on the massage fee. However, when I went there were signs clearly posted at each. At mean hour, massage was $10 and the sign was posted on the right wall as you enter the lineup room. At 252 the sign was on the reception counter. I saw both these signs as I walked in. Though if you are saying that I can pay $7 and just ignore the sign than I will try that next time.Good report. When you brought girl back to vb did you give front desk her ID?

Goatscrot
10-18-17, 12:52
In PP now. I'm not an expert by any means I think this is trip #5 to PP in 2 years. What I do know is this is by far the best lineup of girls I have ever seen. Almost every non ladyboy bar had something decent.
Even the bars that used to be filled with old chubby ladies like on Street 118 have younger girls now.Have not been to PP since 04. It was amazing in the late 90's and early 00's. Viets galore. Now I hear there are very few. Never liked the Khmers. A bit to dark for my liking. And nowhere near the performance of the Viets.

Adventurer1
10-18-17, 13:30
Have not been to PP since 04. It was amazing in the late 90's and early 00's. Viets galore. Now I hear there are very few. Never liked the Khmers. A bit to dark for my liking. And nowhere near the performance of the Viets.So much difference between Viets and Khmer? As I read things are more difficult in Vietnam.

Todden Kopf
10-18-17, 21:28
Are there any fetish clubs or other more kinky places in PNH? I visit for the first time and would love to experience something a bit different from what Thailand has to offer. Any interesting shows beyond pussy ping pong for example?

AskeAske
10-19-17, 11:41
Are there any fetish clubs or other more kinky places in PNH? I visit for the first time and would love to experience something a bit different from what Thailand has to offer. Any interesting shows beyond pussy ping pong for example?You are going to the wrong country / town. You can find that in Bangkok, but not in Phnom Penh.

GreenBud
10-19-17, 12:14
1) Can someone suggest a dance club (not DD or Pontoon) with nice local ladies who like to dance? I'm not necessarily looking for WG, I just want to buy her some drinks and dance the night away.1) Riverside Lounge.

2) Sparks (if this place is still around). Years ago, this disco was the place for locals to go to drink and dance with their friends / dates. Now I heard the new hot place is some other disco.

3) The new hot disco. Most young locals should know where it is at.

But note that dance clubs are not like the US. There is not much mingling with people you don't know. But if you have game as a foreigner, you can have fun.


Looking for reliable Visa Shop in PP to handle my paper work getting a new 60 day (single) Tourist Visa for Thailand. Normally my hotel did this for me but currently closed for renovation.

Address for moto driver would be helpful.Any travel agency will be able to do it. There are many along the riverside.

I use the one close to Street 136. From Street 136 as you hit the riverside, turn right. It will be the second travel agency you pass. I use this agency because the Vietnam visas is a little cheaper than the other ones.

Goatscrot
10-19-17, 12:59
So much difference between Viets and Khmer? As I read things are more difficult in Vietnam.Viets are white skinned and to my eye far better looking. As a rule I don't find Khmer gals attractive. The one that have a lot of Chinese in them are ok. Also a very different culture. Different attitudes towards sex as well. You did not go to Vietnam for Viet gals back in the day; you went to Cambo.

Mark Inspire
10-19-17, 15:42
First time at PP for the last three days, primarily for work related travel. Had some fun in the nights:

1. 252 Massa.

Directions are easy and there are enough indicators as well.

Walked in and sat at the sofa. Three Viets and about 10 Khmers. Decent line up at 7 pm. Picked up Viet No. 21.

Walked to the counter directly and paid $7 in exact change. When he protested, I acted confident and told him that last time I gave $6 and now I know its $7. He was OK.

After a non existent massage the negotiations started. I was keen on only BJ and after a few minutes of haggling, settled at $30 for two BJs. What followed was a good session of deep BJs. The first was easier for her but she really had to work hard for the second!

Looks 6/10.

Attitude 7/10.

Skills 7/10.

2. Second night was quite late due to work as well as a long time at Naga casinos. So ended with a massage near the river side for two hours. Massage was good with the standard rates and a happy ending.

3. Third night was back to the Naga Casinos for more time. At 2 am the crowd was thin at DD and picked up Annie who came back with me to the hotel. Very petite 22 yo. I was staying near the airport and felt safer when she was asked to deposit her ID with the security. In the room it was a good GFE with some time in the tub followed by session 1. Then a break for chat over some wine and then onto session 2. Sent her off at 6 am since I had to leave for the airport at 7.30.

Looks: 7/10.

Body: Petite 8/10.

Attitude: 8/10.

Damages: $80.

Managed to catch the flight just in time!

ScottoD
10-19-17, 18:16
Hopped around the bars tonight on street 136 and vicinity. Not a big fan.

As USAinEurope mentioned Intoxica had hot girls.

Going rate all along was $50 for short time plus $10 for barfine. I could not get anyone to budge. Actually I got one down to 40 but didn't think it was worth it. I insisted that I always pay $30 but no go.

I met this girl Ahny on Tinder that said she works at Candy Bar. Dressed sexy but something was off, think she may have been a ladyboy. Then I ended up going across the street where there were some hotter girls. Again one average girl, who was acceptable for short time inisted on $50 + 10, then she tried to pass me to another girl who would go for $40 + 10 but didn't speak any English and felt like I was being manipulated. Not to be cheap but I'd also not like to help support these inflated prices. But at the end of the day it is only $10 and when I go back to USA these kind of prices for sex are still unheard of.

The freelancers seemed a bit skechy and a lot of ladyboys mixed in.

Another tinder girl, Theary, worked at a hair salon off 136. After a bit of a chat I asked if she was ladyboy. What can I say, I am a bit paranoid because they are everywhere, try swiping in Pattaya or Bangkok, 90% of the smoking "hot" girls will be ladyboys. Anyway, she avoided the question, and when putting her on the spot she said she was a lady. She did not ask for any money and said she wanted to meet for drink. I met her by her salon and smoking hot body but of cause my ladyboy radar was beeping like crazy. Could not help but bring it up again even though I pissed her off to the point of f'king it up. No matter how hot she looked, no regrets, always would have been on back of my mind.

Trying to find 252 area, looked on map and it seems kind of far. Not sure if I am looking at right spot. Is it parallel to 274 right off 63?

GreenBud
10-19-17, 20:20
Trying to find 252 area, looked on map and it seems kind of far. Not sure if I am looking at right spot. Is it parallel to 274 right off 63?Street 252 - Yes, that is the area. Google map works well. Just type in Street 252, and it comes up.

It's only about a mile away. A $2 tuk-tuk ride from the riverside.


You did not go to Vietnam for Viet gals back in the day; you went to Cambo.Yup, the good old days. I still like to talk about the good old days, even though some people on this board whine about talking about the past.

ScottoD
10-20-17, 02:39
Street 252 - Yes, that is the area. Google map works well. Just type in Street 252, and it comes up.

It's only about a mile away. A $2 tuk-tuk ride from the riverside.
.Where dol you normally tell the tuk tuk to drop off? Since advised not to arrive by tuk tuk.

GreenBud
10-20-17, 03:18
Where dol you normally tell the tuk tuk to drop off? Since advised not to arrive by tuk tuk.I don't normally go to that area, but I would just say Street 252, and say stop away from that place. Street 252 is a very short street. Note: some transport drivers won't know where it is if you say Street 252. One advantage of taking a tuk tuk from a tourist area (such as Street 136) is that the driver will ask other drivers where it is if he doesn't know where it is. You can potentially get the tuk tuk for $1.25 or $1.50, especially if you get the tuk tuk away from the local team that hangs around Street 136. During the night, there will be tuk tuks that hang around on the other side of riverside, but those drivers normally will not speak any English. The solution is to get a smart phone with Google maps, and you tell them where to go.

If you take the tuk tuk to that place, or if the tuk tuk driver follows you there, you can probably get the normal price by just standing you ground and stating that you will pay the normal price (with a smile) and be prepare to walk out. But not sure since I've never been to that place.

Meo Den
10-20-17, 03:59
If you take the tuk tuk to that place, or if the tuk tuk driver follows you there, you can probably get the normal price by just standing you ground and stating that you will pay the normal price and be prepare to walk out. But not sure since I've never been to that place.If you let any driver (especially from the riverside) take you to st252 you will be walking out.

Take a tuk to Lucky Supermarket on Sihanouk. It's a short walk from there.

ScottoD
10-20-17, 08:17
This is strictly for newbies. Others please ignore.

Massage brothel variously known as '168' '252' 'Yang Mei' 'Yang Chou'.

1) Do not arrive by tuktuk or motodop.

2) Have $7 exact change for massage.

3) Do not approach the desk. Sit at fish bowl and make selection. Casually confirm with staff you know the price is $7 / hour.

4) Once in room with girl, tell her you want a massage. Fairly early in the proceedings let her know that you pay $25 for nyum nyum boom boom. Add that you pay the cashier $7.

5) Give her time to agree. Usual rules of negotiation: be pleasant, friendly, stick to your price.

6) Afterwards, give her the agreed fee, as opposed to more than the agreed fee.

7) Walk with her to the cashier and hand him the $7. They may try to charge you more if you overrun the 60 minutes, so you might like to note the time.I tried to follow this advice. I went there around 1 pm, hopefully correct place, diagonally across from a Thai restaurant. I walked up the steps and I sat down. Mamasan sat down next me and I said $7 per hour, she nodded and told me about the Vietnamese and Cambodians colors. There were not many Vietnamese and none seemed interesting. This girl in the front, skinny, dark eyebrows, I forget her number 31 maybe. Could not speak english, When she got up I did not think she was as skinny from bottom, she was not bad but kind of had 2nd thoughts. Male cashier asked to pay first and I said pay after and he said ok.

Anyway went to room. She started giving me shitty massage clothed. Tried to tell her I wanted boom boom and she said $80 . I insisted on $25 and said I come here alot (even though first time). Anyway, she would not budge, maybe she said $60 but I was like $25. Finally I got annoyed and said $25 or $0. She still did not agree so I got up and walked out. I told mamasan I was not happy and wanted another. This time I chose #4 who was my 2nd choice initially. She was not even visible but I remember her and told mamasan. She was cuter than the first. Her name was something like Malai. As 15 minutes I spent with first girl had passed, the cashier insisted I pay, I gave him $7.

We get to the room and this girls english sucked too but at least she could converse. She starts massaging, better than the first girl. And then I ask about boom boom. She says $60 , I say $25 , finally she says $30 and for the $5 I was not going to waste any more time. This negotiation was killing the fun. This is why I like Soi 6 in Pattaya better.

Then when were about to start I realized my mistake. Stupid of me to assume that boom boom includes blow job. I forgot the nyum nyum. She would not do it. I kept saying for $30 I want nyum nyum boom boom but she said that's not what we agreed. This went back and forth for a bit and totally killed mood. She was saying something like no boom boom you still pay $30 cause we agreed or outside. That did not sound pleasant so forked up another $5 to add in the nyum nyum. She then started and rectified the mood kill. It was good, tried a few positions and then finished and paid. Enjoyed it but was not worth the hassle for sure. Though slightly more expensive the soapies I've tried in Thailand and Soi 6 I've had better experience.

She said most people do pay her $50 for both nyum nyum and boom boom

Had to give her $40 because I did not have any 5's but she gave me $5 change in real so it was fine. I thought desk was going to milk me for another $7 because I tried two girls but I just walked down the steps and out without even going back to fishbowl room.

So all in all maybe I overpaid $10 but no tip so not too off.

@Greenbud thanks . I did not see your reply til after the fact. I ended up walking there. It was far and hot but pleasant. On return I told driver $1, showed him gps and he said $3. I said $2 which is what I intended to pay and started to walk. He stopped by and said he'll take you , passing me to another driver. I got rid of some of the Cambodian change I got from Malai.

Adventurer1
10-20-17, 15:39
Viets are white skinned and to my eye far better looking. As a rule I don't find Khmer gals attractive. The one that have a lot of Chinese in them are ok. Also a very different culture. Different attitudes towards sex as well. You did not go to Vietnam for Viet gals back in the day; you went to Cambo.OK just wondering. I will taste by myself at both places.

UsaInEurope
10-20-17, 18:38
Hopped around the bars tonight on street 136 and vicinity. Not a big fan.

As USAinEurope mentioned Intoxica had hot girls.

Going rate all along was $50 for short time plus $10 for barfine. I could not get anyone to budge. Actually I got one down to 40 but didn't think it was worth it. I insisted that I always pay $30 but no go.
This is where being cheap fucks you. It's a smoking hot very young woman who you're forcing to some extent to fuck you. And not only fuck you but do it to your happiness and be totally into you as well.

Look. I get it. If I don't feel like she's a super fuck then I'll be the first to rip her on here.

But man. Mongers turning away sex for $10 just makes no sense. For a stupidly hot and enjoyable experience. But I read it all the time. Thing is, if you overpay the "inflated price" and don't even haggle in these 3rd world poor cities, you're going to get 10 x the experience. At least that's what I've learned. My amazing all-timer from PP was $60ST but it turned into all night, suprise lactation, as much sex as we could have, and the feeling that she'the drop everything and be my GF if I asked.

So all I'm saying (not blasting you at all as I've done the haggle that gets me with my own hand that night) is just pay the extra almost nothing amount and help the poor girl out. It's not like she's asking $400/ HR.

Meo Den
10-21-17, 04:37
I tried to follow this advice...... On return I told driver $1, showed him gps and he said $3. I said $2 which is what I intended to pay and started to walk. He stopped by and said he'll take you , passing me to another driver. I got rid of some of the Cambodian change I got from Malai.Good report. That is the place. Selection may well be better after 5 pm.

Note that the girls may change their numbers, and obviously new girls may be given the numbers of others who have left.

It's refreshing that you had little difficulty getting the correct $7 price. So many reports here of the desk ripping off newbies. Simply saying 'I always pay $7' or 'I paid $6 before' seems to work.

I believe the second girl was telling the truth about what she gets ($50). Some of these girls will not do BJs and some who will agree will only do covered BJs. My view is that if they are reluctant it isn't going to be any good. Offering them a lot more can be unfairly coercive, and can backfire.

There is no comparison between this kind of place and Soi 6 in Pattaya. The average quality and performance of these girls just can't be worth $7+50 or $15+80, although good luck to them if / when they get it.

The only quibble I have is you mentioned not tipping. Tipping here is only seen as an indication that you want to pay more than the agreed price of anything, and can have very negative repercussions.

What you did with the tuktuk works perfectly well with the girls. You stood firm on $2 and got the ride you wanted. Did it cross your mind that you should tip him an extra dollar? He would only have seen you as finally paying $3.

Don't worry about those drivers. They do OK. Most have a girl in the MP they are pimping.

ScottoD
10-21-17, 06:03
This is where being cheap fucks you. It's a smoking hot very young woman who you're forcing to some extent to fuck you. And not only fuck you but do it to your happiness and be totally into you as well.

Look. I get it. If I don't feel like she's a super fuck then I'll be the first to rip her on here.

But man. Mongers turning away sex for $10 just makes no sense. For a stupidly hot and enjoyable experience. But I read it all the time. Thing is, if you overpay the "inflated price" and don't even haggle in these 3rd world poor cities, you're going to get 10 x the experience. At least that's what I've learned. My amazing all-timer from PP was $60ST but it turned into all night, suprise lactation, as much sex as we could have, and the feeling that she'the drop everything and be my GF if I asked.

So all I'm saying (not blasting you at all as I've done the haggle that gets me with my own hand that night) is just pay the extra almost nothing amount and help the poor girl out. It's not like she's asking $400/ HR.I thought you were saying you got $60 LT off the bat, that's why I thought $50 short time was inflated. I guess its normal on 136. Its not really my scene though. I think I prefer to meet freelancers in a club. In these bars I felt a lot of pressure to buy drinks, people standing over you, asking you to sit. Trying to sit you next to ugly girls. Etc. Ironically I liked Mickeys in Siem Reap which I walked into by mistake. Much more low key.

You were dead on though as far as Intoxica having better looking women in general compared to others.

Stykler
10-21-17, 09:05
I could have held out for $50 long term but she wanted $60 and WTF. I'm not a cheapskate, doesn't mean much to me, means a ton to her. So, fine. $60. Cheap by any international standard. Shoot me if you want for "Raising the rate for everyone else. ".That's the way I look at it. Well done.

KB Tahoe
10-22-17, 15:07
Located on Pasteur- Across the street from Pontoon.

Very nice and low key place. Music is not too loud. Girls are friendly. Nothing superstar quality. Ages from 19 to 36. Seemed to be about a dozen on duty, Friday and Saturday night.

Interesting place if you want to take a girl out. No traditional straight barfine. Instead girl can leave if you run up a sufficient tab. Requirement is that you buy her at least 5 lady drinks (these are $3.50 or $4.50) and also that the tab totals at least $30 dollars. So getting the girl out can cost a lot more than at the traditionally structured beer bars.

I found a girl I liked on Friday night and returned on Saturday to pull her out for the evening. 5 drinks for her $17.50- 2 drinks for each of two friends- $14.00 Plus one coke for me $2.50? Total was about $34.00 Then we left.

Based on this pricing structure most of these girls are not taken out very often. Possibly never. Not a real monger's destination.

Charm City Dave
10-22-17, 22:49
Doesn't seem to be a hotel thread for PP. I searched on hotels and did see a few recommended, but specifically I'm looking for a hotel recommendation for a 5 night stay in January. My must have list includes comfortable bed, good AC, fridge, no hassles having a girl over, good location and most of all quiet (I'm a light sleeper). 3 to 4 stars is always my sweet spot not not opposed to paying a little more to get a splash of luxury.

Thanks in advance, I'll post a detailed trip report when I get home.

Member #4531
10-23-17, 01:31
I got the recommendation for a ST hotel near 51, but there's got to be something around 136 that won't ask for my ID. Sorry I keep noting that I don't want to be carded by the front desk, but a ST hotel on Patpong once requested an ID from me and I don't need that kids the of exposure.

GreenBud
10-23-17, 02:16
I'm looking for a hotel recommendation for a 5 night stay in January. My must have list includes comfortable bed, good AC, fridge, no hassles having a girl over, good location and most of all quiet (I'm a light sleeper). 3 to 4 stars is always my sweet spot not not opposed to paying a little more to get a splash of luxury.Lux Riverside Hotel. It is on Street 136, very near the riverside.

For a quiet room, you need to ask for the rooms that has the inside windows, facing the courtyard. The rooms facing Street 136 might be noisy.

It has everything you ask for, except maybe the frig. It is the small fridge that most other hotels have.

I always get a King Superior for $50 per night. You should be able to get that rate if you email the hotel. If you get it via Agoda, it is a few dollars more.

FreebieFan
10-23-17, 03:28
Located on Pasteur- Across the street from Pontoon.

Very nice and low key place. Music is not too loud. Girls are friendly. Nothing superstar quality. Ages from 19 to 36. Seemed to be about a dozen on duty, Friday and Saturday night.

Interesting place if you want to take a girl out. No traditional straight barfine. Instead girl can leave if you run up a sufficient tab. Requirement is that you buy her at least 5 lady drinks (these are $3.50 or $4.50) and also that the tab totals at least $30 dollars. So getting the girl out can cost a lot more than at the traditionally structured beer bars.

I found a girl I liked on Friday night and returned on Saturday to pull her out for the evening. 5 drinks for her $17.50- 2 drinks for each of two friends- $14.00 Plus one coke for me $2.50? Total was about $34.00 Then we left.

Based on this pricing structure most of these girls are not taken out very often. Possibly never. Not a real monger's destination.Last years met a friendly bar tender there (female! We seemed to get on well and agreed to meet after her shift. Met after her shift, but she wouldn't come to my hotel (Blue Frog nearby to Shanghai bar) as she knew a relative there, so she said. So we take tuk tuk and find 3 short time hotels but in most cases the staff were asleep. By now it was 4 am and I was kind of tired too. So I let it go. No idea if she wanted money or what.

Blanquiceleste
10-23-17, 17:33
I was on ground for 4 days from 18 to 22 October. Overall a very enjoyable trip.

All my picks were from bars along 104,130 and 136.3 girls were ST while 3 others were LT. The ST sessions were a result of careful collection of numbers of girls, done while bar hopping and hunting for LT prospects. Prices were $40 for ST and $70 for LT. I tipped the girls $3-5 depending on service quality.

I made one schoolboy error with one of my encounters that skewed the average price of fucks on this trip.

I visited Darling Darling and Epic on two nights. Did not see anyone worth $100 at Darling. Epic is good too, but it's a place to go clubbing with friends. More like Hollywood in Pattaya. Plus I had a girl in tow, so any potential hunting was ruled out.

Girls in the bars on 130 and 136 in particular are getting smarter and pricier. Most bars will pad bills if you are not paying attention. I thought I saw a lot more ladyboys on this trip than in my last trip (in August).

But I will go back in April. I like the Khmer girls and their attitude.

Blanquiceleste
10-23-17, 17:41
This hotel is on the Riverside (Sisowath Quay, Doun Penh) right next door to Eric Kayser, the French Bakery & Restaurant. In fact there is an entrance to the hotel through the restaurant.

Ayes:

- Large rooms, period wooden furniture, well equipped, good lighting, great balcony, decent aircon, all appliances in working order, friendly staff and excellent prices. I stayed in the Superior Suite, facing the river at $50 per night.

- Completely girl friendly, ID collection and call back system in place.

- Good breakfast on the rooftop.

Nays:

- The hotel does not have an elevator. YES! One has to climb a staircase to get to the room. So insist on lower floor if you choose to stay here.

WhatDHell
10-25-17, 04:59
A short trip with family coming up. A couple of days in PP and a couple in Siam Reap.

Went through the forum and it would appear that most action is to be found in the bars along streets 104,130 and 136. Unfortunately, I don't believe I'll be able to get away for too long.

The only other option I could figure out was massa 252, though it appears it could be hit or miss.

I plan to sneak away for a couple of hours for a 'drink'.

Are there any options for a quickie that I'm missing out?

GreenBud
10-25-17, 05:36
A short trip with family coming up. A couple of days in PP and a couple in Siam Reap.

Went through the forum and it would appear that most action is to be found in the bars along streets 104,130 and 136. Unfortunately, I don't believe I'll be able to get away for too long.

The only other option I could figure out was massa 252, though it appears it could be hit or miss.

I plan to sneak away for a couple of hours for a 'drink'.

Are there any options for a quickie that I'm missing out?Le Crycee. On Street 49. All girls are available.

You go there. Point and snap your finger. Agree to terms and price. Buy them the mandatory lady's drink. Pay the barfine. Then go to the short time hotel.

Why can't you go to Streets 104, 130 or 136? Just go there, choose a bar, and pick out a girl. She may or may not be available. Find a girl that is available. Negotiate and go. It will only take several minutes longer because not all girls are available. But it seems doable in less than 2 hours.

YetAnotherGuy
10-25-17, 06:30
Le Crycee. On Street 49. All girls are available.
I agree that LE Cyrcee is good. Another option is Soul Golden City massage (in the Nagaworld vicinity), which has a fishbowl.

WhatDHell
10-25-17, 18:00
I agree that LE Cyrcee is good. Another option is Soul Golden City massage (in the Nagaworld vicinity), which has a fishbowl.I thought it might be too much hassle to first find a gal in the bars, then agree a price, find a ST hotel, etc. Maybe its possible.

Thanks for the information on LE Cyrcee and soul garden city. Will research these. I'm assuming ST should be available within USD 50-60?

GreenBud
10-25-17, 20:03
information on LE CyrceePrices from last year. Should still be the same.

You need to buy the girl a mandatory lady's drink. I think it was $3.50. Barfine is $10.

For short time, most girls will ask for $40. Depending on the girl, you should be able to get it for $35 or $30.

Short time hotel nearby is $7 or $5.

Most girls will do lesbian shows. Some will do CIM. From what I was told, only the old ones do anal.

WhatDHell
10-26-17, 03:17
Most girls will do lesbian shows. Some will do CIM. From what I was told, only the old ones do anal.Thanks mate, that sounds very promising. I noticed LE Cyrcee is close to 'central market'. Perhaps I can leave the missus there for a couple of hours while I sneak into Cyrcee.

GreenBud
10-26-17, 03:39
I noticed LE Cyrcee is close to 'central market'. Perhaps I can leave the missus there for a couple of hours while I sneak into Cyrcee.Not possible.

Central Market closes around 5 PM.

Le Crycee opens at 6 PM. Girls comes in between 6 to 7 PM.

WhatDHell
10-26-17, 04:00
Not possible.

Central Market closes around 5 PM.

Le Crycee opens at 6 PM. Girls comes in between 6 to 7 PM.That's good information. Thanks.

Between Massa 252 and the girlie bars, on average, which will have the prettier, GFE girls?

Blanquiceleste
10-26-17, 16:13
That's good information. Thanks.

Between Massa 252 and the girlie bars, on average, which will have the prettier, GFE girls?Simple rule of thumb. There are simply many more bars and thus many many more girls in those bars along 130,136 and 104. Massa is just one venue.

Take a wild guess where the prettier ones are likely to be.

P.S. - Do not, for a minute, compare Massa with any of the oilies / soapies in Thailand or the spas in Shanghai, Taiwan or Jakarta.

Mention of a spa creates an imagery of plush settings with lustful skimpily clad women hanging on your every word and doing your every biding. This is not the case in Massa.

WhatDHell
10-27-17, 03:41
Simple rule of thumb. There are simply many more bars and thus many many more girls in those bars along 130,136 and 104. Massa is just one venue.

Take a wild guess where the prettier ones are likely to beThat sounds logical.

Normally I'd spend time looking around and see where I can find the best girls and more importantly where I am most comfortable, unfortunately I shall not have the luxury of time on this trip so I'm trying to find an option that will guarantee me reasonable quality, with minimal chance of failure.

Sometimes I wonder where would I have been had I put in so much thought and effort into my job.

Blanquiceleste
10-27-17, 10:52
unfortunately I shall not have the luxury of time on this trip so I'm trying to find an option that will guarantee me reasonable quality, with minimal chance of failure.If you are not short on budget, just go to Darling Darling. You will not be disappointed. And the girls won't play games.


Sometimes I wonder where would I have been had I put in so much thought and effort into my job.Tell me about it!

WhatDHell
10-27-17, 19:51
If you are not short on budget, just go to Darling Darling. You will not be disappointed. And the girls won't play games.That's where I'll go then. Budget is not an issue. I did put some time and effort into my job!

I shall post my experience; though unfortunately it appears I need to postpone my trip by a month.

Thanks for the responses gents.

JakeGatsby
10-29-17, 01:19
Anybody heard anything about this? I recently ran across what looks like a woman interested in casual sex on Tinder. Our back and forth has been explicit and she's coming to my hotel tonight with the expressed interest to fuck. Too good to be true? She's beautiful and 23.

My fear is that this is some sort of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) scam where I'll get her up to my room, bang her, and then have a group full of dudes waiting to threaten me the following morning when I go to get in my car for work. Anybody have any experience with something like this? At the end of the day, I guess it comes down to whether pussy is worth risking this kind of consequence. Unfortunately for me, it usually is.

WhatDHell
10-29-17, 05:09
Anybody heard anything about this? I recently ran across what looks like a woman interested in casual sex on Tinder. Our back and forth has been explicit and she's coming to my hotel tonight with the expressed interest to fuck. Too good to be true? She's beautiful and 23.

At the end of the day, I guess it comes down to whether pussy is worth risking this kind of consequence. Unfortunately for me, it usually is.Meet her in a public place and then take her to a hotel. That should protect you to some extent I think.

GreenBud
10-29-17, 05:15
Anybody heard anything about this? I recently ran across what looks like a woman interested in casual sex on Tinder. Our back and forth has been explicit and she's coming to my hotel tonight with the expressed interest to fuck. Too good to be true? She's beautiful and 23.

My fear is that this is some sort of ... scam where I'll get her up to my room, bang her, and then have a group full of dudes waiting to threaten me the following morning when I go to get in my car for work. Anybody have any experience with something like this? At the end of the day, I guess it comes down to whether pussy is worth risking this kind of consequence. Unfortunately for me, it usually is.Hmm...You have a car...You work over there. Aren't you experienced in Cambodian culture / life?

Of course you "hear" about these type of scams (not with Tinder), although most people just repeat things they hear and don't have any "real" evidence. There has been newspaper articles about foreigners getting busted in the guesthouse by police with the girls during the night when they are together with the girl. It is never in the morning after she is gone. Tinder is new, so these type of scams have probably not been "reported" yet.

BTW, are there many girls listed in Cambodia Tinder?

A woman interested in casual sex (without payment) is very unusual in Cambodia. There are no pick bars in Cambodia. Cambodian locals think they are either "good" girls or "bad" girls. But of course there are girls that want to fuck, even without payment. Hard to find them. Curious if it's a real girl (not tranny), and if she won't ask for payment.

Any type of scam, including Tinder, is possible in EVERY country in the world.

The easy solution is just make sure your hotel will check / keep her ID. Good thing you have a hotel instead of an apartment.

Always be smart. Enjoy.

Dragonfly22
10-29-17, 10:10
I've visited twice and I'm amazed at how many more hostess bars popped up since my last visit. My take after my last 5 day stays was this. I tried the popular bars and found a lot of the real hotties will work you for lady drinks, even try to get you to by their friends a drink or two but when it comes time to bargain or get down to business they call in a professional worker. It happened a few times to me. So I drifted down to the less busy bars where the girls are hungrier. True, not as many hotties but the attitudes and service were way better. They were farther away from riverside, I'd pop my head in and most were empty which made for a quieter atmosphere with more attention to you by your choice of girls. 69, Candy Bar, Lady Butterfly were too pushy and bait and switch for me. Just my opinion.

Dragonfly22
10-29-17, 10:16
Are there certain bars or areas that have Viet girls? I've heard many go to Cambo to work anonymously to make some money. Just curious to find out if they gravitate to a certain area or bar / bars.

Adventurer1
10-29-17, 11:14
I've visited twice and I'm amazed at how many more hostess bars popped up since my last visit. My take after my last 5 day stays was this. I tried the popular bars and found a lot of the real hotties will work you for lady drinks, even try to get you to by their friends a drink or two but when it comes time to bargain or get down to business they call in a professional worker. It happened a few times to me. So I drifted down to the less busy bars where the girls are hungrier. True, not as many hotties but the attitudes and service were way better. They were farther away from riverside, I'd pop my head in and most were empty which made for a quieter atmosphere with more attention to you by your choice of girls. 69, Candy Bar, Lady Butterfly were too pushy and bait and switch for me. Just my opinion.What about prices? Any difference between popular & non pop. Bars?

Blanquiceleste
10-29-17, 16:08
Are there certain bars or areas that have Viet girls? I've heard many go to Cambo to work anonymously to make some money. Just curious to find out if they gravitate to a certain area or bar / bars.There was a sole report of a bar named Golden Vine on 108, in a complex next to the CamEd Business School.

I swung by one day during my recent trip. No Viets there. I did not stay long as the aircon was quite bad and the bar felt quite stuffy. A couple of decent looking Khmer girls. Pool table at hte back. Music of your choice played on Youtube. Couple of other bars adjoining this one. Nothing in there to stop for.

YourBoyRoc
10-31-17, 08:22
Am I the only one wondering what the heck "LOS" is?!Not at all, I am as well.

Dick Hertz
10-31-17, 09:57
After dozens of trip to both Thailand and the Philippines I decided to try here. I am not impress by what I have seen. The weekend was an even Halloween was slow. The quality of the girls is just okay but not for the price. Now on my way to Siem Reap.

Adventurer1
10-31-17, 13:27
After dozens of trip to both Thailand and the Philippines I decided to try here. I am not impress by what I have seen. The weekend was an even Halloween was slow. The quality of the girls is just okay but not for the price. Now on my way to Siem Reap.You tried with bars? Prices? Write some details if you want. I'm also interested in Siem Reap. How things are.

Banana Boi
10-31-17, 19:40
Not at all, I am as well.LOS is Land of Smiles aka Thailand.

Member #4698
10-31-17, 19:55
I'm also interested in Siem Reap. How things are.The Archaeological Park is amazing. The food is very good. The town is pleasant. The P4 P is not worth pursuing.

AussieDoug
11-01-17, 12:20
Are there certain bars or areas that have Viet girls? I've heard many go to Cambo to work anonymously to make some money. Just curious to find out if they gravitate to a certain area or bar / bars.Ten years ago the place was teaming with Viet girls, all of which would do bareback. But for some reason they have been cleared out, very sparse indeed, they were certainly too much competition for the locals.

Golfinho
11-01-17, 13:31
Now on my way to Siem Reap.S. Reap is a mass market tourist ghetto, the kind of place people either see in their 20's, of if they started families prematurely they see it in their 50's-60's with your (still) first wife. Have fun, Dick hertz!

AskeAske
11-02-17, 08:36
S. Reap is a mass market tourist ghetto, the kind of place people either see in their 20's, of if they started families prematurely they see it in their 50's-60's with your (still) first wife. Have fun, Dick hertz!Siem Reap is a great place. I love the temples. I like the Artisans etc. But it is bring your own place.

Papae Noel
11-07-17, 08:44
Now on my way to Siem Reap.Probably already had your visit?

I will check out Siem Reap early 2018. No plans to see Phnom Penh for now. Angkor Wat has been on my must do list. Being a single guy, maybe I will get some nice attention in the Spa / Massage. Still trying to decide on a hotel. Maybe hotel that offers in room massage, as well as an on site Spa. Have read many good reviews, but the problem is that looking for reviews with a google search, it is 95 percent Tripadvisor content (nothing sensual or sexual).

Blanquiceleste
11-08-17, 16:14
Probably already had your visit?

I will check out Siem Reap early 2018. No plans to see Phnom Penh for now. Angkor Wat has been on my must do list. Being a single guy, maybe I will get some nice attention in the Spa / Massage. Still trying to decide on a hotel. Maybe hotel that offers in room massage, as well as an on site Spa. Have read many good reviews, but the problem is that looking for reviews with a google search, it is 95 percent Tripadvisor content (nothing sensual or sexual).Good luck! Be prepared to face a lot of disappointment.

MichelJ
11-08-17, 20:24
Have read many good reviews, but the problem is that looking for reviews with a google search, it is 95 percent Tripadvisor content (nothing sensual or sexual).Be smart, Google for: hotel massage Siem reap-site: tripadvisor.

Riverstar
11-11-17, 00:50
Ten years ago the place was teaming with Viet girls, all of which would do bareback. But for some reason they have been cleared out, very sparse indeed, they were certainly too much competition for the locals.Maybe they contracted aids.

Member #4531
11-14-17, 11:28
Curious if anyone can recommend any of the 10,000 riel massage parlors and prices for FS or BBBJ.

Thanks.

Manfield04
11-14-17, 17:18
10,000 riel is equivalent to US $ 250. I don't think you cane massage for that price.


Curious if anyone can recommend any of the 10,000 riel massage parlors and prices for FS or BBBJ. Thanks.

Fast Eddie 48
11-16-17, 02:38
10,000 riel is equivalent to US $ 2.50. I don't think you cane massage for that price.To Manfeid04.

There are low end place all over PP back in 2002 my first Viet girl cost me 5 usd for FS no BJ, if you go to svap pak 11 km outside of town even cheaper as low as 4 usd but those days are over.

Fast Eddie 48.

GreenBud
11-19-17, 06:55
Curious if anyone can recommend any of the 10,000 riel massage parlors and prices for FS or BBBJ.The 10,000 Riel massage parlors are more for local people. Seems like a bed with a curtain around it. It has no air-con.

I was told by a friend the following. You need to tip for get extras. For 10 K riel, you just get a massage. Not all girls will do everything. You need to talk to them. Obviously, the tip requirements will be a lot less than the hostess bars.

Girls will probably not speak English. Girls will probably be ugly. But it might be fun to try to talk to them using hand signs.

I'm on a budget, but I am not that desperate.

Goatscrot
11-19-17, 11:01
Maybe they contracted aids.Uh, no, they were thrown out by the Cambodian gov.

Forever69
11-19-17, 11:42
Uh, no, they were thrown out by the Cambodian gov.Plenty of them around. Some for as little as 10 $ all in.

NZSmith
11-21-17, 09:54
Apparently some people here have picked up girls (from bars) on PP to take with them to Angkor what. Can anyone who has successfully pulled this off explain how they vetted these women and done this?

Thanks.

Member #4531
11-21-17, 15:03
In Vietnam a hot toc barbershop often offers BJs in back rooms by older women not working in better places. I've seen a few barber shops in PP with "hot toc" on the door plus Khmer writing. Wondered if the hot tocs here in PP offer back room BJs?

SlowAndEasy
11-21-17, 20:41
Apparently some people here have picked up girls (from bars) on PP to take with them to Angkor what. Can anyone who has successfully pulled this off explain how they vetted these women and done this?

Thanks.Vetting? Unless you get a recommendation from one of the guys on this forum, the vetting process is far from good.

In PP, I visited the bars on 104,130, and 136. I just had to mention to the girls that I was going to Siem Reap, and I had a number of offers from girls who wanted to travel with me. My suggestion is to first find a girl that you like, take her for a night and see how you get along. Make sure that your room has a safe and you should be fine. If you got along well with the girl then ask her if she wants to travel with you. Remember most girls will expect to be paid their overnight rate regardless whether you have sex or not. You can negotiate this a bit if she will be with you multiple days.

Franga
11-22-17, 18:35
Started off about 8 pm in St 51 at the old Golden Soriya Mall area. A few semi doable FL's here offering FS for $20 usd. Apparently there is a ST room inside the complex somewhere for $3 usd. Girls look a bit skanky and drugged up so didn't partake.

The old Walkabout hotel has been demolished and is now a vacant lot. I tried to find the old Flamingo hotel but couldn't see it. Maybe it has been demolished too, or redeveloped into something flashier?

Continued on to the St 130 area. A massage chick offered me a $1 usd discount on a 1 hour $11 usd oil massage. Will have to try another day. Lots of chicks waiting at the bars outside for customers.

The promenade next to the Mekong was pretty deserted as it was around 9 pm. Two obvious trannies and one fat chick looking for customers. One of the trannies followed me up to the night market, and then gave up.

The road (st94) leading into what Phnom had quite a few freelancers, with some trannies in the mix. One chick offered up boom boom for $25 usd and pointed to a ST hotel down a side road. I kept walking and did a loop around the what. More FL's here, some doable. Back out towards Sisowath Quay, there was a cute looking FL chick on the cnr with st94 who offered up boom boom for $25 usd with a $5ST hotel nearby. I countered with $10. She came down to $20. No deal. I walked off. Looks like $20 usd is the price as she didn't call me back. Headed back to my guesthouse with the intention of hitting Massa the next night as a more salubrious choice.

GreenBud
11-23-17, 13:47
Started off about 8 pm in St 51 at the old Golden Soriya Mall area. A few semi doable FL's here offering FS for $20 usd. Apparently there is a ST room inside the complex somewhere for $3 usd. Girls look a bit skanky and drugged up so didn't partake.The main area of Soriya Mall for the Freelancers (across Heart of Darkness, under the metal dome) is currently be renovated. All the tables are not there. When they finish, more girls should be there. Why did they wait until high season to do the remodel.


I tried to find the old Flamingo hotel but couldn't see it. Maybe it has been demolished too, or redeveloped into something flashier?It is on Street 172, just 100 meters east from Pontoon. It is gutted right now. Seems they are totally remodeling it.


Back out towards Sisowath Quay, there was a cute looking FL chick on the cnr with st94 who offered up boom boom for $25 usd with a $5ST hotel nearby. I countered with $10. She came down to $20. No deal. I walked off. Looks like $20 usd is the price as she didn't call me back.There are some SWs along the riverside (Sisowath Quay). Not too many, or else, IMO, the government will crack down. But they are on the ugly side. Last year, I overheard 2 Africans talking. One of them told the other guy that the girls can be had for $15. That price seems right for the stuff you see on the riverside.