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Free2
11-27-17, 17:59
Heading to Phnom Penh Feb. 14 - 18,2018 for the first time.

I have been following the PP and Sihanoukville threads for a while. My question to the veterans is this: as a 1st-timer, would you do a side trip to Sihanoukville if you only had 4 days in Cambodia? I am leaning towards no.

AskeAske
11-27-17, 18:24
Heading to Phnom Penh Feb. 14 - 18,2018 for the first time.

I have been following the PP and Sihanoukville threads for a while. My question to the veterans is this: as a 1st-timer, would you do a side trip to Sihanoukville if you only had 4 days in Cambodia? I am leaning towards no.If you only have 4 days, no. If you have one week, yes.

DonzieBhoy
11-27-17, 19:42
Hi guys,

arrived in PP tonight. Had a little poke about staying on 130 street at Lux hotel. Just to see if 252 massage wasAstill open and if there was any more near by that offers the same.

Thanks in advance.

AskeAske
11-28-17, 06:00
Hi guys,

arrived in PP tonight. Had a little poke about staying on 130 street at Lux hotel. Just to see if 252 massage wasAstill open and if there was any more near by that offers the same.

Thanks in advance.In 2013 you was a newbie in Budapest, but no reports. You have also been in Thailand. Also no reports. Now you go to Phnom Penh. Again only question and no real report. Why should we answer your questions?

WingMancbe
11-28-17, 18:01
Hello,

I am visiting Phnom and Siem for a week in December.

Would love to know the best places to monger and some direct contacts also please. I RTFF but couldn't find anything solid. Please guide me. Will reciprocate when you guys visit India anytime.

Zman429
11-28-17, 20:30
Hello,

I am visiting Phnom and Siem for a week in December.

Would love to know the best places to monger and some direct contacts also please. I RTFF but couldn't find anything solid. Please guide me. Will reciprocate when you guys visit India anytime.There is plenty of info just Google Penom Penh redlight, bar girls. Etc. And check youtube. A lot of that info was verified in posts here a couple months ago. P.S. I don't remember it directly just researched but never went decided Thailand was smarter choice.

Franga
11-29-17, 11:06
Yes, 252 is still open.

Here's what I now do to avoid being gouged on prices. First, say to the mamasan and the guy on reception that you are only willing to pay $7 usd for the room rent /"massage". They will agree to this. Last time in February they charged me $15 and I stupidly agreed.

Second, tell the mamasan that you will only pay $25 usd for boom boom. She will say that you will have to ask the girl first. So pull a chick out of the fishbowl, and then in front of the mamasan and the reception guy start bargaining with the chick for the boom boom price. The first chick I pulled out said she wanted $50 usd. I said no, $25, so chucked her back in the pond. What is her pussy lined with gold dust? Guess she took one for the team.

Next girl agreed to my very generous offer of $25 usd. So that was it. Do all the negotiations in the waiting room. Don't go up to the room after having paid the room, or the girl will treat you like a fool and say that boom boom is $80 usd. Then you will have all sorts of problems trying to negotiate her down to a reasonable price.

I have done this 3 times now. Walked out $32 lighter, and no nasty price surprises. Pretty good fuck each time. Girls are in the 6 to 7 range but all are young. Bed is clean and there is aircon, and a cold water shower. I recommend you bring your own condoms as theirs are too small and too thick. BYO lube too.

XiaomingZhang3
11-29-17, 18:20
This is my first time to Phnom Penh, the first 2 days I tried tinder and I got 10+ matches.

Most are "normal" girls who looking for serious relationship.

With 2 of the matches are working girls who go direct to the business, quote me $100 and $150 for going to my place.

The one who quote $150 are stunning (at least in the pictures) among those matches.

And she told me she is working in "Daring" and everybody pay this range.

I am not sure if it worth the price so just tell her I got other appointment and wish her good luck.

I picked the $100 offer, and on her way to my hotel she offered me $200 for threesome.

And I accepted (I don't know why I was doing this.) and after 15 minutes the hotel front desk asked me am I expecting "visitors".

The ladies are around 25-28 years old. One of them can speak a little English and the others are zero English.

4 hands Massage BJ make love. And I feel it like going to Gym for exercise, more than enjoyment.

The next day I rather go massage / sauna. I will post my other report on Hotel Luxury World massage if I have chance.

XiaomingZhang3
11-29-17, 19:13
I was looking for massage and wondering if Mean Haur, Hotel Luxury World or Massa.

Found out Hotel Luxury World is just within 7 minutes walk from my place so try it.

After a long day working. I got there around 8:15 pm. 1 F is the reception and Fish Bowl. There are around 20+ girls with a number tag, Khmer dress in pink while Vietnam dress in blue.

My rule for fish bowl selection is: Pick the one who keeps smiling to you and have eye contact with you.

The one I pick is blue no 18, 20 24 yo, very nice figure.

Pay $10 to the reception for 1 HR massage / sauna room rent.

And follow the girls upstair to a room, with bed, shower, and a small sauna / stream chamber.

After Stream (I have been inside for 5-8 minutes but the stream is not hot enough) shower by yourself (I heard report say some will help you shower or shower together after FS) massage (it just about 10-15 minutes and so so).

Then she offered $80 for FS. I try to negotiate but she is really firm on it, so I accepted.

GFE Kiss (I did't expected that, it really turned me on) Body lick CBJ FOV until she really wet Missionary finish.

There still 15 minutes left and she offer one more time at $150 in total.

I was not in the mood (I feel really tired and hungry) but her GFE kiss turned me on again. And she accepted $130 in total, and start with fierce cowgirl and finished with doggy.

I will proper try a Khmer (I heard they cost less) next time.

It seem the massage here is actually side dish and not really helping you refresh, but and the FS are the main course.

MichelJ
11-29-17, 20:37
Heading to Phnom Penh Feb. 14 - 18,2018 for the first time.

I have been following the PP and Sihanoukville threads for a while. My question to the veterans is this: as a 1st-timer, would you do a side trip to Sihanoukville if you only had 4 days in Cambodia? I am leaning towards no.4 days is too short for visiting Phnom Penh AND Sihanoukville. It takes about 4 hours to drive from PP to Sihanoukville by taxi (and around 5,5 hours by minivan). I like Sihanoukville much more than PP but both cities are worth to vsit. If you will stay in PP a must see are the killing fields (around 15 km). Sihanoukville has a nice (small) waterfall.

AskeAske
11-30-17, 13:17
Pay $10 to the reception for 1 HR massage / sauna room rent.

Then she offered $80 for FS. I try to negotiate but she is really firm on it, so I accepted.

There still 15 minutes left and she offer one more time at $150 in total.

I was not in the mood (I feel really tired and hungry) but her GFE kiss turned me on again. And she accepted $130 in total, and start with fierce cowgirl and finished with doggy.You pay that if you want, but in all 140 dollar for one hour. Why go to Cambodia for that?

Eszpresszo
11-30-17, 14:40
You pay that if you want, but in all 140 dollar for one hour. Why go to Cambodia for that?My first thought was "That's a West European price in a poor Asian country" except I've always gotten away with less under 100 Euros in Germany. And we wonder how prices get exorbitant in SE Asia?

JamessPlats
11-30-17, 22:14
I'm going to Phnom Penh and staying at Comfort House (see here: https://www.agoda.com/comfort-house/hotel/phnom-penh-kh.html?searchrequestid=0783f3ca-95a9-436a-ad79-0aea0a83dc37) for a month. Will I have any trouble bringing girls up to my room?

GreenBud
12-01-17, 03:47
My first thought was "That's a West European price in a poor Asian country" except I've always gotten away with less under 100 Euros in Germany. And we wonder how prices get exorbitant in SE Asia?He way overpaid.

He should have paid between $7-$10 for the massage. My guess is that he should have paid between $25-$50 for the tip. Maybe some girls might hold out for more if you're a tourist; not sure. Note sure if you can low-ball and get it for $20. Franga wrote that most girls will accept $25 at the other massage parlor. $40 should be a great price for her; she should be very happy. You need to be prepared to walk out to get the normal price. Obviously the guy never was prepared to walk out.

Member #4531
12-05-17, 01:02
I realize that for those of you who've been mongering for a while, this information is old news and much of it can be gleaned from other corners of the internet. But for those folks new to mongering or unsure how things work in PP I hope this info will be helpful.

I've lived in PP for +6 months now and gotten dozens of oil massages around town (and in Siem Reap). I've gotten a happy ending in +90% of my oil massages by following a few basic rules. If others have pointers to add please respond. I'm sure different techniques work for different folks. Below is what nearly always works for me.

1) Select a massage parlor in the tourist areas along the river. The 10% of places where I was unsuccessful were all in established neighborhoods. In the tourist areas, I'm pretty much at 100%.

2) Go during off-hours or be the only customer. I prefer to go mid-day on a weekday and I check to see how many pairs of shoes are at the front door. If I see Western style shoes I either come back another time or pick a different place. An empty massage shop means ladies are not making any money and my thought is they're more willing to work for a tip to make some money during slow times.

3) Select a 1 hour oil massage. You will not get a happy ending with a foot massage.

4) Be friendly to the masseuse. If you are friendly and maybe can say a few words in Khmer, you will make the lady more comfortable and with her comfort comes her willingness to be nice back to you.

5) Oil massages are done totally nude. When you go into the room you will be told to take off your clothes and lay down. Do not leave your underwear on, do not put the towel over you or even next to you, do not put on the massage shorts. Lay on your stomach totally nude and when the lady comes in say Hello, in Khmer, but do not make eye contact.

6) If she covers your ass with towel all is not lost. Let her cover you. She may ask if it's ok to cover you. Ask if it's ok to leave it off. If she covers you let the tower stay there. When she works her way up to your ass, slide the towel up a bit to let her have more to work with. Then you can ask if it's ok to remove the towel. If she agrees and starts massaging your butt, this is a great sign. If she start massaging your inner thigh near your balls. You're in.

7) The flip. She may cover you again for the flip. It's OK, flip over with the towel, but then ask if it's ok to remove it. If she agrees to remove it that's great. Do not worry if you're hard as a rock and throbbing. Let me say it again. It's ok if you are totally hard and erect. Massages are very relaxing and a women is rubbing oil all over your body. How do you not get hard? If she let's you remove the towel you're going to get a HJ so relax. I often wonder if they let *me* make the suggestion to remove the towel so it's not her being the naughty girl and initiating something sexual.

8) Don't rush her to jack you off. Ignore your hard on and do not ask her to finish you off. It's obvious what you want so lay there and enjoy the oil massage. It's called a happy ending because it's supposed to happen at the end. So enjoy letting a woman see you manhood while she is massaging you. This is also good practice at letting sexual tension build and you will have a much stronger finish if you don't rush into the ending. You paid for an hour so get an hour.

9) I don't ask for a happy ending. She see's you're hard on and you're naked. When she is ready she will ask. You want massage here? Yes. You give me tip? Yes. I do not discuss price unless she does. I pay $10 for a HJ. If she insists on $15, it's your call. I would never pay $20.

10) Cum quietly. Do not make a lot of noise. She may get in trouble or you may alert other customers of what's going on. Keep the sounds in, but enjoy what you're getting. Don's say shit like "that was good" or "oh my god" or "of shit" or something that another person might think means you're getting sexual services. Keep it down. I will whisper "slowly please" if she's hammering away trying to make me cum. The best oil hand jobs are the ones that are slow and build up.

11) Tip discreetly. Once she wipes you down and you get dressed, she will likely leave the room. Unless she is the cashier and no one else is around, I wrap a $10 bill in a $1 bill so all anyone sees is the $1 (OK so I guess I'm paying $11 for the HJ). Again, I don't want to get her in trouble. This isn't Star of Light you know. I go to a few places where the owner is the masseuse and the cashier so I can get give her $20 and walk out. If the girl stays in the room before going to cashier, I give her the $10 there and then I still give a $1 at the end so as to look like I'm tipping her. It depends on the place, situation, and how accepted happy endings are at that shop.

12) I don't go back t the same place more than a couple times per month. I am going to a massage parlor to get a massage that also includes a happy ending. I am not going to a brothel. Two of the places I go have high ratings on tripadvisor and the lady who gives me HJ's is mentioned by name in some of the reviews as being a good masseuse. Nothing sexual. I don't want to show up every week or every few days and treat her like I'm there just so she can jack me off. She is a good masseuse and I don't want to make her feel like a prostitute.

13) Be clean. This should be an earlier bullet point, but let me say it now. The more presentable (dare I say better looking) you are the more likely she will be to service you. She is a woman and a sexual being after all. I am just shy of 2 meters tall, fairly muscular, with a few cool tattoos. I am trimmed up all over my body. When she has a young-ish, tall, muscular man laying in front of her with a throbbing cock, very likely she's going to be a little turned on. If you're not in that great of shape, you can compensate by being friendly and at least clean and well groomed.

14) Do not expect full service at a tourist massage parlor. I have never gotten a BJ or FS and I've tried different techniques. Once I got the girl to kiss the end of my cock, but she wouldn't go further. If you have a technique to get FS let me know, cause I can't figure out a way. I've felt up their ass a few times will getting the HJ, but I've never gotten them naked either.

Feel free to add other pointers. Cheers.

Muzungufotsy
12-05-17, 05:11
Never understood the point of paying for a HJ. Most of the girls don't know how to do it and I can do it myself anyway. In most countries you take the girl s number and you fuck her later on but in PP forget it so massage in PP is useless if you want sex IMHO.

Franga
12-05-17, 11:10
Nice report there Baghda. Personally I feel you are being too liberal with the removal of the towel at the start. I always start an oilie with the towel covering my ass. The chicks almost always then lift the towel into the air and have it fall back down on me. That way they see that I am naked.

So two nights ago I was angling for a massage with HJ finish so I went to Riverside massage on the riverfront. On the flip she asked if I wanted my stomach and chest massaged. As this is quite stimulatory I said yes. I was wondering if she would ask me if I wanted my dick massaged like they do in Kuala Lumpur, but no, she did not ask. I decided not to ask anyway.

Oilie cost $8 usd for one hour. I decided not to tip as I only like paying for extras and will hopefully motivate the woman to be more proactive in providing extra services. But I can fully understand that she would not want to initiate a conversation about providing a HJ in case I turned out to be some sort of tourist prude who will report her to her boss for inappropriate behaviour with the possible loss of a job. So, I think it is up to the punter to be proactive in asking.

Anyway, after the massage I wandered up Sisowath quay, and just shy of the bridge I found a real down and dirty little brothel. I was too scared to do FS as there was no wash room, which puts me at risk of an STD. So got a really great HJ from a cute little provider with nice pert little titties. Cost me 60 k riel (=15 usd). Will report on this later.

AskeAske
12-06-17, 13:36
Never understood the point of paying for a HJ. Most of the girls don't know how to do it and I can do it myself anyway. In most countries you take the girl s number and you fuck her later on but in PP forget it so massage in PP is useless if you want sex IMHO.Have you ever been in Phnom Penh? What you say make no sense.

Muzungufotsy
12-06-17, 13:54
Have you ever been in Phnom Penh? What you say make no sense.Probably more than you buddy. It makes perfect sense on the contrary.

AskeAske
12-06-17, 16:47
Probably more than you buddy. It makes perfect sense on the contrary.You don't know what you are talking about. Thats why I ask you if you ever have been in Phnom Penh. I have fuck many massage girls in my room after the shop closed. Maybe they don't want with you?

Muzungufotsy
12-07-17, 02:58
You don't know what you are talking about. Thats why I ask you if you ever have been in Phnom Penh. I have fuck many massage girls in my room after the shop closed. Maybe they don't want with you?Ahahah dude you have a high opinion of yourself ah? Want to count how many Cambodian visas I have on my passport? Be my guest. Like I said FS with massage girls in PP is useless unless you have low expectations and are willing to pay too much for a Khmer girl who won't give BJ. That's not my case so they are all yours. Show me how they look like I m curious.

SouthEaster
12-07-17, 06:19
This is one of the few times I agree with STB, at least in part. Cannot understand why you would pay for something you can do yourself. If the happy ending is a blowjob or fuck, by all means. I don't partake of massages anywhere including PP so I can't say much on the success or lack thereof in getting girls back to your room after she finishes work. Having walked past innumerable massage places and seeing the girls out front I would imagine your success would be based on the amount of English the girl knows and if she is agreeable or not. And I have been in / through PP about a hundred times.

SE.

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12-13-17, 09:45
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Member #4531
12-15-17, 11:43
This is not Bangkok. This is not Bangkok. Repeat this before you go in. This is not Bangkok.

Visited today at 3 pm. Tuk Tuk dropped me at the corner of 252 and 63. Enter at right side of building up the steps. Turn left and the guy running the place was there waiting. He sat me down in front of fishbowl. About 25 girls there many smiling and waving. He suggested one girl, but I selected 39 with big tits. Mamasan called her out and before she could get to me he wanted me to pay for the room. I said I needed to talk to the girl first. I told her I wanted her to nyam-nyam me and me to nyam-nyam (pointing to her crotch) and boom-boom. "Ok, ok $50. " I said normally it's $25. She acted surprised and said she was good st boom-boom. I countered at $30 and she said $50 so I said no thank you.

Selected 19 a lady from Kampot. Again, nyam-nyam me, nyam-nyam you, boom-boom. "OK, $50. " No, normally $25. She countered with $35 so I agreed before it got weird. Greasy owner guy says you pay now so I hand him $7. He says it's $10. I saw it's always $7 and he mumbles to himself in Khmer and agreed.

She leads me to a well lit old, but clean room and I chat a bit in what little Khmer I know. I undress and I step into the shower and rinse off. She rinses off after me. Before I lay down for massage I kiss the back of her neck and tits which makes her giggle. Trying to keep it friendly. She tells me to lay on my stomach and I get a silly excuse for a massage. She's a little bit dumpy in the ass and small tits, but good enough looking. Two minute faux-massage and flip. Two minute faux-massage and a couple of strokes on cock. Then she tries CBJ, but I tell her no condom, but she refuses. Hmmmm. OK, I tell her I nyam her and she refuses. We'll fucking hell that's what I specifically asked for. Asked again and she refused. We'll lay on your back and let me look. She agrees and after a couple of kisses on her inner leg she's into it and let's me eat away. Nice box, no smell, but Bush on top not on pussy lips. Her pussy hair was very soft and nice. She got very wet and was into it. I don't think she would let herself cum because after a lot of licking and teasing her back started to arch and she suddenly made me stop. I got what I wanted.

Started with missionary, then sideways, and doggie. She brought the condom. I appreciate the well lit room so I could peak at the action. Dumpy ass was fun to squeeze when I popped. I was a bit disappointed that after I came she was so quick to clean up and get dressed. I paid her $35 and she walked me to top of stairs and said bye bye.

Debating if a return visit to her would ever yield a BBBJ or should I just try another girl next time. Any idea if these girls agree to go bareback for extra or if any will agree to A+? Oh yeah. This is not Bangkok. This is not Bangkok.

Franga
12-17-17, 06:59
Baghda, Lucky you didn't go with number 39, as she was the worst chick I took in all my visits. She couldn't take a cock. In doggy and flat dog she kept trying to rotate her body sideways to avoid the penetration, which I just hate. Got her for $25 usd like the other 6 I took. Funny story, I was joking with her about having my baby. She thought I was serious and said that it would cost me $1000 usd for her to give me a baby, but then quickly indicated that the kid would be handed over to me immediately on birth!

Also, at Massa make sure you make the first offer to the chick. Don't ask them their price first as it will always be a ridiculous $50 or $80. I always get them out of the fishbowl and then say directly to her "$25 dollars boom boom okay? They will consider for a second and say "$30". To which I shake my head sternly and say "no $25". Then they agree immediately. Then pay the reception guy his $7.

Of course a $25 session will mean no 5 to 10 minute oil-less back rub, which they would probably do for $30, but that is fine with me as I am only there for the bang.

I kind of got to like this brothel. Chicks were always young, with everyone under 25 yrs. And some reasonable quality too. But my all time favorite brothel still remains New Life in Medellin, Colombia.

Meo Den
12-18-17, 04:33
Of course a $25 session will mean no 5 to 10 minute oil-less back rub, which they would probably do for $30, but that is fine with me as I am only there for the bang.

I kind of got to like this brothel. Chicks were always young, with everyone under 25 yrs.You can take your own oil and they will give you a 10-30 minute massage by way of fluffing.

I think 'chicks were always young' is very misleading. Very few under 25, the majority 30+.

At least it appears to be easy enough to get sensible prices. I hear they have fewer Chinese customers now. No doubt the Chinese have much better options.

Eszpresszo
12-18-17, 20:19
I think 'chicks were always young' is very misleading. Very few under 25, the majority 30+.Misleading? Or just a different perception? Maybe Franga just had a better choice overall that you did. There are not too constants in the world of mongering. When we went and who we are is a big factor on how we report things. If you noticed the women being older, that probably tells us the quality can vary from one visit to another. Both of your experiences add to some insight, as opposed to contradicting each other.

Case in point: I visited Medellin a while back on a short tour of the casas. I came away impressed with the looks of the girls and the overall operations of the casas. However, I didn't get any extraordinary service from any of the girls. I wasn't in a hurry to go back. I've tried other destinations since then, and still Colombia has left me the least impressed in regards to service. Yet, most other mongers will give a different account. They will greatly disagree with what I perceive to be the norm.

So, how am I am supposed to take all this in? Obviously, I need to go back to Medellin, spend more time there, try different girls, different casas and experience what the average monger seems to be reporting.

It's probably not you. Its me that's the problem.

Cheers.

Franga
12-19-17, 10:38
This will probably be of no use to 99% of mongerers out there, but between street 82 and 78 on Sisowath key there are a number of cheap local massage shops with girls sitting outside. I ventured into one that was an obvious knock shop, as one of the girls first called out "boom boom" to me. This was No. 11 Sisowath Key from the sign out front.

I ended up taking a HJ twice from the same chick. Cost $10 usd HJ plus $5 usd to take her top off. Or 60,000 riel total in local currency. FJ's are available for $15 usd I was told. But their english is poor to non-existent.

Inside are about 3 small rooms with only space for a mattress. 2 upstairs and one downstairs. The steps are almost vertical, and wooden. There was a fan so it was not too hot while I was getting my HJ. When I returned back to my hotel I had to extract 4 long strands of women's hair from my socks, underwear and shirt, which I must have picked up from the mattress as I was putting my clothes back on. Kind of grossed me out. Looks like no cleaning is ever done on the mattresses.

For those who like it down and dirty only. Personally I wouldn't risk a BJ here for risk of gonnorhea, or FJ for risk of herpes as there is no wash room to soap off immediately after.

Franga
12-19-17, 10:47
I think 'chicks were always young' is very misleading. Very few under 25, the majority 30+.I had seven chicks at massa 252 and these were the ages quoted to me by each chick: 21,22, 22,22, 22, 23, 24.

Maybe they are lying, but to me they all actually looked quite young. Including everyone I saw in the fishbowl each time, of which there were about 20.

Some of the ones I took said they had one kid. Others said no kid, maybe 50/50 on kids.

I would be very surprised if there were any chicks over 30 yrs working there at all.

Franga
12-19-17, 11:27
I have always wondered what is the correct price for a pack of boner pills. Last February I went to a pharmacy in Phnom Penh and they sold me a pack (4 pills) of Zeagra for $2.50 usd. Tried it and seemed to work. But recently in December this year I found that these Zeagra packs are now sold in all of the Smile convenience stores around town along with a nice selection of condoms.

Well, in the Smile stores the price of the Zeagra was $1.96 usd for a pack. So looks like I got ripped off at the Phnom Penh pharmacy (as expected). Anyway, $1.96 usd equates to about 63 baht.

Previously, I had been buying a 4 pill pack of Kamagra in a non-chain pharmacy in Pattaya for 200 baht, which is about $6. 25 usd. So looks like they must be making a killing on that stuff too. Another Thai ripoff? Looks like it to me.

Member #4531
12-19-17, 11:46
I had seven chicks at massa 252 Any success with BBBJ or A+?

Franga
12-20-17, 04:02
Any success with BBBJ or A+?Sorry, can't help you there as I am strictly safe sex these days. Didn't ask any of the chicks.

GreenBud
12-20-17, 04:12
I have always wondered what is the correct price for a pack of boner pills.You paid the correct price. You paid $2.50 for Zeagra at a pharmacy. You paid $1.96 at Smile Mart. There can be small price differences for many items depending on where you buy it.


Previously, I had been buying a 4 pill pack of Kamagra in a non-chain pharmacy in Pattaya for 200 baht, which is about $6. 25 usd. So looks like they must be making a killing on that stuff too. Another Thai ripoff? Looks like it to me.The non-chain pharmacies in Pattaya will rip you off. I couldn't find any of them to sell me Sidegra (generic Viagara) at close to the retail price. In Pattaya, you need to go to the chain pharmacy to get it at retail price.

GreenBud
12-20-17, 04:24
This will probably be of no use to 99% of mongerers out there, but between street 82 and 78 on Sisowath key there are a number of cheap local massage shops with girls sitting outside. I ventured into one that was an obvious knock shop, as one of the girls first called out "boom boom" to me. This was No. 11 Sisowath Key from the sign out front.

I ended up taking a HJ twice from the same chick. Cost $10 usd HJ plus $5 usd to take her top off. Or 60,000 riel total in local currency. FJ's are available for $15 usd I was told. But their english is poor to non-existent.You're a lot braver than me.

Assuming the girl was on the ugly side. You probably could have gotten FS from a similarly ugly freelancer along the riverside for the same $15.

Franga
12-20-17, 08:34
You're a lot braver than me.

Assuming the girl was on the ugly side. You probably could have gotten FS from a similarly ugly freelancer along the riverside for the same $15.Yes, the chick I took was a bit on the ugly side, and wouldn't have been my first choice, but she was the first to offer me the HJ service. She did have nice pert tits though. There were in fact two other reasonably hot chicks there who would put most of the Pattaya freelancers to shame. I would do them if I could take them to a ST hotel, but didn't even try. Some of those riverside chicks are reasonable in the looks department. Not all, are ugly.

Noobmonger
12-21-17, 09:39
I not really had much luck with 3 somes in the past in PP. Usually the girls take turns to hide in the bathroom whilst one is on her back. They never play together. So I'm not really expecting a positive response to this question but what the hell I might as well see if anyone has some recommendations.

A friend and I will be in PP in a few weeks and I have something to celebrate so figured it would be nice to arrange a small party with some girls.

Basically I'd be looking for 4 girls to join the two of us. They can't be shy, we'd want them to all get involved. Ideally if some will even play with each other that would be perfect.

We'll be in PP for a few days before hand and will ask around at the bars near the Riverside, but if anyone here can give suggestions or advice I would really appreciate it.

GreenBud
12-21-17, 11:19
Basically I'd be looking for 4 girls to join the two of us. They can't be shy, we'd want them to all get involved. Ideally if some will even play with each other that would be perfect.Easy answer. Cyrcee (Secret Bar). Most girls will do lesbian stuff.

http://www.bayonpearnik.com/cambodia/places/phnom-penh/bars-nightclubs/cyrcee-club.php

https://www.facebook.com/Cyrcee-Secret-Bar-1562602580436388/

Noobmonger
12-21-17, 11:27
Easy answer. Cyrcee (Secret Bar). Most girls will do lesbian stuff.
Great, I had a feeling this might be the answer but haven't been there for a few years so wasn't sure if the girls were still so accommodating.

Will head down there when we arrive and check out the talent.

Many thanks.

GreenBud
12-21-17, 11:39
Will head down there when we arrive and check out the talent.Just note that some girls are fighting with each other, and won't play with each other. Just ask them. Easy to match 4 girls.

SacredMan
12-25-17, 16:34
After living here for five years, here are some tips and recomm.......

14. Try not to be walking alone in darker streets after 2 am if you are very drunk, or you risk being mugged by ladyboys or guys on motorcycles.About a year ago, in what Phnom, around 1 am, a ladyboy snatched my wallet and ran away. 5 minutes later, a motorcyclist pretending to help me, snatched my iphone and sped off.

After this incident, I always put my money in my shorts with zip, then wear my jeans.

JesseJames
12-28-17, 06:33
About a year ago, in what Phnom, around 1 am, a ladyboy snatched my wallet and ran away. 5 minutes later, a motorcyclist pretending to help me, snatched my iphone and sped off.

After this incident, I always put my money in my shorts with zip, then wear my jeans.To walk around, drunk or otherwise after midnight is a suicide mission. You may get your throat slit. Go with a tuk tuk or motorcycle that.

S connected to a club or real bar. A wiseguy who is armed and pay them whatever they ask.

GreenBud
12-29-17, 09:25
To walk around, drunk or otherwise after midnight is a suicide mission. You may get your throat slit. Go with a tuk tuk or motorcycle that.Might have been correct in 1997 during the coup / civil war, but definitely not the case right now in Phnom Penh.

I don't think there have been many tourist getting mugged and killed this year. But after Hun Sen took out the Cambodia Daily (a real newspaper, hence it was opposition since it told the truth and didn't toe his official line), it is hard to get Cambodian news.

Completely safe in the tourist areas, where many eyes are on you. It's not that the locals like the foreigners, but they hate the criminals, and the mob element will try to catch and beat up common criminals.

IMO, even the deserted streets won't be that bad. Although I wouldn't walk around Tuol Kork late at night (actually Tuol Kork is getting developed, should be safer than the old days). But note, logically, since you have money, you will always be a target, especially if you out staggering drunk on a deserted area. But the good news is that crime against the tourist will generally be non-violent.

JesseJames
12-29-17, 16:06
Might have been correct in 1997 during the coup / civil war, but definitely not the case right now in Phnom Penh.

I don't think there have been many tourist getting mugged and killed this year. But after Hun Sen took out the Cambodia Daily (a real newspaper, hence it was opposition since it told the truth and didn't toe his official line), it is hard to get Cambodian news.

Completely safe in the tourist areas, where many eyes are on you. It's not that the locals like the foreigners, but they hate the criminals, and the mob element will try to catch and beat up common criminals.

IMO, even the deserted streets won't be that bad. Although I wouldn't walk around Tuol Kork late at night (actually Tuol Kork is getting developed, should be safer than the old days). But note, logically, since you have money, you will always be a target, especially if you out staggering drunk on a deserted area. But the good news is that crime against the tourist will generally be non-violent.I'm talking today. In any area. They may even follow your tuk tuk, if you can find a straight one after 1 AM. The mob element will look after those that frequent their clubs and use their drivers. Otherwise, they don't give a damn whether you live or die. After midnight it is completely unsafe in any part of Phnom Pehn. Don' be a fool with your life. You may get lucky but be careful PP is extremely dangerous overnight.

Roaming Viking
12-30-17, 11:03
I am back in Phnom Penh again. Yesterday's bus ride from HCM with Sapaco was hell. Bus had a flat and we waited for two hours on the roadside. A similar thing happened last year with Giant Ibis. Coming back from HCM is always worse than going there. I wonder why. And it is more expensive too. $17 from HCM but only $12 going out from Phnom Penh.

Too tired to shag when I finally got in last night.

This afternoon I walked down by the Japanese bridge. There are a few MPs down by street 82, number 29, I think, right on the corner. A sweet looking 30 something girl took me upstairs for a $3 massage. She had me undress completely and we spent 45 minutes or so her jacking me off. She gave me free access to her boobs, which were OK, but nothing more. I gave her $10 and expected change but alas. Stupid me, I should have more change. But it was still money well spent. We spent our time cuddling, she jerking me off the whole time. But I aborted since I am still quite tired and plan to hit Cyrcee tonight.

Pipe Layer99
12-30-17, 13:49
I am back in Phnom Penh again. Yesterday's bus ride from HCM with Sapaco was hell. Bus had a flat and we waited for two hours on the roadside. A similar thing happened last year with Giant Ibis. Coming back from HCM is always worse than going there. I wonder why. And it is more expensive too. $17 from HCM but only $12 going out from Phnom Penh.
Too tired to shag when I finally got in last night.Next time FLY. 45 minutes or 7 hours. Just $50 more.

Brn Beck
01-03-18, 08:25
I'm talking today. In any area. They may even follow your tuk tuk, if you can find a straight one after 1 AM. The mob element will look after those that frequent their clubs and use their drivers. Otherwise, they don't give a damn whether you live or die. After midnight it is completely unsafe in any part of Phnom Pehn. Don't be a fool with your life. You may get lucky but be careful PP is extremely dangerous overnight.I've spent a lot of late nights in Phnom Penh. Months on end. I've only ever heard of one violent mugging in 5 years.

I'm not saying it doesn't ever happen or that there's no risk or need to be on alert, but it's just not been my experience. I've been all over the city and done some admittedly dumb things, late at night, alone, walking home. Could be I'm lucky.

Extremely dangerous? Suicide mission? Meh.

BB.

Member #4531
01-03-18, 14:09
Can someone tell me phonetically how to say.

1) I want to perform oral sex on you / eat your pussy. Whatever expression makes my point.

2) I want you to suck me without a condom.

3) Go slowly.

DingoD
01-07-18, 11:53
I've spent a lot of late nights in Phnom Penh. Months on end. I've only ever heard of one violent mugging in 5 years.

I'm not saying it doesn't ever happen or that there's no risk or need to be on alert, but it's just not been my experience. I've been all over the city and done some admittedly dumb things, late at night, alone, walking home. Could be I'm lucky.

Extremely dangerous? Suicide mission? Meh.

BB.I was going to reply to this in nearly the exact same way when I read the original post. Like you I have walked around numerous parts of town in the early hours of the morning when I didn't have the patients to deal with tuk tuk driver bullshit, never had a problem of the past 10 years.

I think like anywhere, if you use a bit of common sense, exercise some caution and aren't a loud mouthed trouble seeker Phnom Penh is no more dangerous than say, Melbourne or Singapore.

Cheers.

DingoD.

AussieGuy100
01-11-18, 14:38
Can someone tell me phonetically how to say.

1) I want to perform oral sex on you / eat your pussy. Whatever expression makes my point.

2) I want you to suck me without a condom.

3) Go slowly.1) knyom chong see k'doey on.

2) Som on see k'dor ut meen srowm (sound as in row. Argument).

3) twer yute yute.

JesseJames
01-11-18, 16:17
I was going to reply to this in nearly the exact same way when I read the original post. Like you I have walked around numerous parts of town in the early hours of the morning when I didn't have the patients to deal with tuk tuk driver bullshit, never had a problem of the past 10 years.

I think like anywhere, if you use a bit of common sense, exercise some caution and aren't a loud mouthed trouble seeker Phnom Penh is no more dangerous than say, Melbourne or Singapore.

Cheers.

DingoD.Good Luck.

JesseJames
01-12-18, 15:55
More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. www.khmertimes.com/50101659/deaths-foreignors-increase/.

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.

BabaGanoosh
01-12-18, 20:47
FWIW I walked all around the Patoon area and up to 136st tonight and it felt exceedingly safe. Actually feels safer at night, than the day because every st is fairly quiet. During the day feels like a motorcycle driver might drive by and steal your phone if given the opportunity.

AskeAske
01-12-18, 22:49
More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. www.khmertimes.com/50101659/deaths-foreignors-increase/.

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.If you are so scared, then stay at home. If that is more safe? If you are a little streetwise, PP is safe. But nothing is 100 % safe. When I go out drinking all night in PP I always take a safe tuk-tuk. One I know. I pay him all night. We go to a place, I come out, we go to the next place. I have never any problem in PP. JesseJames, stay at home. Then nothing happen at all.

Eszpresszo
01-13-18, 00:33
More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women.Did the article say how they died? Why do you assume they died as a result of criminal activity? Are you sure some of them didn't die a natural death (heart attack, stroke, chronic or malignant illness), drug overdose, traffic accident, suicide, or plain old "death by misadventure" (common for tourists who don't know their limits)?

Maybe you should look at the number of foreigners who die in Thailand each year and tell us why Thailand is safer.

GreenBud
01-13-18, 00:35
More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. www.khmertimes.com/50101659/deaths-foreignors-increase/.

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.You're full of shit! You even got the website wrong. The correct website is: http://www.khmertimeskh.com/50101659/deaths-foreigners-increase/.

Out of the 119 foreigner's death, 1 was from murder. Most (86) were from illnesses. 6 were unexplained. Out of approx 5 million foreign tourist plus the ex-pats, there was 1 official murder. Not bad. Wondering if that murder was caused by a local or another foreigner. Locals do not kill tourist. We tourist are protected. The government / country needs our tourist money.

86 were injured officially, out of 5 million. The article does not break out the numbers between crime from locals, crime from other foreigners, and accidents. I would be curious on the number of non-violent petty crime.

GreenBud
01-13-18, 00:47
The US state department just put out a good map indicating 7 levels of safety for travel. Note: it is not all inclusive. There will be areas of safety and danger. You still have to use your brains.

https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/

Interesting to note that Cambodia is grouped together at the 2nd level of safety with Thailand and Laos. Also interesting is that Vietnam is lumped together with South Korea and Japan at the 1st level. As expected, the Philippines is more dangerous at the 4th level.

JesseJames
01-13-18, 05:43
If you are so scared, then stay at home. If that is more safe? If you are a little streetwise, PP is safe. But nothing is 100 % safe. When I go out drinking all night in PP I always take a safe tuk-tuk. One I know. I pay him all night. We go to a place, I come out, we go to the next place. I have never any problem in PP. JesseJames, stay at home. Then nothing happen at all.Get drunk like a fool and wander around. I don't care about PP sexpat rummies. This is a warning for those who go for short times. PP is a dangerous sh-thole. I don't have to be scared because I'm not a drunk and don't stroll around after midnight.

AskeAske
01-13-18, 10:10
Get drunk like a fool and wander around. I don't care about PP sexpat rummies. This is a warning for those who go for short times. PP is a dangerous sh-thole. I don't have to be scared because I'm not a drunk and don't stroll around after midnight.You don't know what you are talking about. Yes, Cambodia and the rest of Asia are dangerous. But not because of crime. But because of the traffic. Be careful in the traffic, because that is the real killer.

Banana Boi
01-13-18, 19:28
I have never felt unsafe in Phnom Penh. There is no reason to unless you wander off the beaten path. Same applies to Pattya and Bangkok. Stay where there are people and you are good. Just don't act like a fool or p1ss people off.

AskeAske is exactly correct. Traffic should be anyone's main concern in the SE Asia countries.

Nounce
01-14-18, 03:23
Not sure what is the definition of "safe" here. One can google "Phnom Penh robbery" or "Bangkok robbery" to get an idea about safety level. If you can read Chinese, robbery and briberies and reported quite often in Chinese forum. Maybe the robber only target Asian with a pack or showing a phone, but who knows.

NewImage
01-16-18, 12:29
Been looking at hotels in Cambodia for maiden trip.

So far LE Grand Palais looks promising esp due to closeness to Crycee (breakfast ok? But. Seeing cheap & safe transport is by tuk tuk my question is does it really matter as long as you stay around central market or Riverside?

Pontoon seems close too.

My wishes. Decent sized room, pool, decent Western breakfast options and quiet at night. Prefer FL or pick ups and bring home to hotel room so obviously GF. Price range 60 -80 US.

Read about delivery by Tuk tuk drivers so just wait in room and see what turns up?

Any assistance appreciated.

Fast Eddie 48
01-17-18, 22:28
Been looking at hotels in Cambodia for maiden trip.

So far LE Grand Palais looks promising esp due to closeness to Crycee (breakfast ok? But. Seeing cheap & safe transport is by tuk tuk my question is does it really matter as long as you stay around central market or Riverside?

Pontoon seems close too.

My wishes. Decent sized room, pool, decent Western breakfast options and quiet at night. Prefer FL or pick ups and bring home to hotel room so obviously GF. Price range 60 -80 US.

Read about delivery by Tuk tuk drivers so just wait in room and see what turns up?

Any assistance appreciated.To New Image.

I like the Riverside area many nice new hotel w pool been open up in the last few yr, many bar and pick up place are in walking distance also like the central market area near shopping during the day but most hotel is age but cheap getting around is cheap motorbike taxi is all over the place or you can hire one for the day or half day cheap.

Fast Eddie 48.

DanTheMan
01-20-18, 07:16
I realize that for those of you who've been mongering for a while, this information is old news and much of it can be gleaned from other corners of the internet. But for those folks new to mongering or unsure how things work in PP I hope this info will be helpful.

I've lived in PP for +6 months now and gotten dozens of oil massages around town (and in Siem Reap). I've gotten a happy ending in +90% of my oil massages by following a few basic rules. If others have pointers to add please respond. I'm sure different techniques work for different folks. Below is what nearly always works for me.

1) Select a massage parlor in the tourist areas along the river. The 10% of places where I was unsuccessful were all in established neighborhoods. In the tourist areas, I'm pretty much at 100%.

2) Go during off-hours or be the only customer. I prefer to go mid-day on a weekday and I check to see how many pairs of shoes are at the front door. If I see Western style shoes I either come back another time or pick a different place. An empty massage shop means ladies are not making any money and my thought is they're more willing to work for a tip to make some money during slow times.

3) Select a 1 hour oil massage. You will not get a happy ending with a foot massage.

4) Be friendly to the masseuse. If you are friendly and maybe can say a few words in Khmer, you will make the lady more comfortable and with her comfort comes her willingness to be nice back to you.

5) Oil massages are done totally nude. When you go into the room you will be told to take off your clothes and lay down. Do not leave your underwear on, do not put the towel over you or even next to you, do not put on the massage shorts. Lay on your stomach totally nude and when the lady comes in say Hello, in Khmer, but do not make eye contact.

6) If she covers your ass with towel all is not lost. Let her cover you. She may ask if it's ok to cover you. Ask if it's ok to leave it off. If she covers you let the tower stay there. When she works her way up to your ass, slide the towel up a bit to let her have more to work with. Then you can ask if it's ok to remove the towel. If she agrees and starts massaging your butt, this is a great sign. If she start massaging your inner thigh near your balls. You're in..Excellent advice. I'm going to use it when I go in pp in Feb.

Thanks again.

Punk Boulala
01-27-18, 12:21
Hey Everyone,

I used to visit Cambodia and have great fun. It has been close to ten years since I've had action. Can anyone give me a quick update on prices so I don't get ripped of on my upcoming trip. What I'm looking for is:

ST / LT from Girl Bar.

ST / LT Freelance from Pontoon or other club to take home.

I can never work the search function and scrolled back about 8 pages without an answer. Your help is appreciated and I'll try to post a report when I can.

SlowAndEasy
01-31-18, 20:11
Hey Everyone,

I used to visit Cambodia and have great fun. It has been close to ten years since I've had action. Can anyone give me a quick update on prices so I don't get ripped of on my upcoming trip. What I'm looking for is:

ST / LT from Girl Bar.

ST / LT Freelance from Pontoon or other club to take home.

I can never work the search function and scrolled back about 8 pages without an answer. Your help is appreciated and I'll try to post a report when I can.I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.

Punk Boulala
02-03-18, 11:04
I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.That is interesting. Way more than I used to pay in 2007-10. I guess that's the way it is and if they can get it then that's the market price. I'll try dating apps or go without.

SacredMan
02-04-18, 00:47
I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.For LT in hostess bars, I won't pay more then usd60 plus barfine $10.

ST max I pay is usd25.

For any freelancers in phnom penh, ST USD20, LT Usd40.

In fact, in what phnom, I pay only ST 10, LT 35.

This is Cambodia, and if I'm a Cambodian, I too will quote as high as possible to a foreigner, just trying my luck.

We live in a world survival of the fittest. May the best man win.

SouthEaster
02-04-18, 06:32
SacredMan has the price right. That said he obviously knows the score and is willing to walk away from bullshit overpricing. Slowandeasy is paying way too much so he is either a newbie or doesn't care to bargain. 100-120 bucks for a girl in PP is over the top but many will pay it. Especially true of newbies / one week millionaires. If you are not desperate you should end up paying somewhere in between. Have a look at SMs view on Sihanoukville. I live there and have to agree. It is a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor destination these days. You can still get laid but it is not the easy laid back place it once was. I am leaving end of April.

SE.

SacredMan
02-05-18, 05:45
SacredMan has............ Have a look at SMs view on Sihanoukville. I live there and have to agree.....poor destination these days. You can still get laid but it is not the easy laid back place it once was. I am leaving end of April.
SE.Its quite sad you finally decide to leave after staying in Sihanok for so many years.

I don't live in Sihanok but I've been to Sihanok so many times within these 3 yrs that I lost count. And each time I stayed in Sihanok about 2-3 weeks.

And I'm very familiar with sihanok as I always rent the bike from Mr Mohn whose shop is directly opp Fortuna Casino resort to roam everwhere into the rice fields and into hilltops.

Sihanoukville:

Sihanok is a money laundering paradise. And so there's a big wave of China people coming to wash their money and turn it into gold. As you already know, almost all casinos (now at least 15 legitimate casinos) in SÓhanok have very very little gamblers playing. In fact most of these casinos don't have any gamblers at all. In spite of the fact that almost all casinos have extremely poor business, yet more new casinos are being built, obviously money laundering is the key reason for such bloom. And so with the influx of China-manned-casinos, it brought along many China staffs into Sihanok thus inflating prices. It was so ridiculous that in shanghai KTV, next to fortuna casino, they charge a China hostess usd300-500 for take away.

However, in spite of the influx of China people, I still enjoy going to Sihanouk because I enjoy fucking pussies just by paying usd 5-15 for st. My friend love fucking 3 wls one after the other, and he only blast his missile on the last wl. I encourage members to take advantage of cheap ST as in what Phnom (in PP) and in Sihanouk (chicken farm and KTV street), to crank yr manhood into as many pussies as possible before you download yr bullets into yr last WL. Its really quite fun, funny, adventurous and v satisfying.

In sihanok KTV street, try not to pay more than usd10 for ST. Of course its also v gd to be generous.

The ambience in Phnom Penh is v different from Sihanouk. PP is more rowdy whilst Sihanouk is more quiet but it have many nice beaches. In Sihanok I love enjoying seafood at night in orchestral beach. Anybody that come, its a must to enjoy yr seafood by the orchaeuteal beach to enjoy the ambience. When I left Sihanouk on 2/1/2018, my friend told me orchaeuteal beach is now under intensive renovation. Anyway in 2 weeks time I will be back in Sihanouk and PP.

Phnom Penh:

I really enjoy the ambience of the hostess bars around s136 in pp as I got the chance to oggle those ladies sitting outside.

There are many places in pp to get cheap ST (usd10-20) eg in what Phnom, svay pak (there's about 8 KTV along the road with gals sitting outside), and along st2004 not far fm pp airport.

For those who have time and love backpacking, I recommend the following route, to stop and stay at each town: start from Pattaya -Bangkok-Poipet (Thai Cambodian border) - Siem reap. Phnom penh- Sihanoukville- Bavet (Cambodia Vietnam border) - Ho chi Minh.

Onico
02-05-18, 07:29
I would like to send you my review of different spots of Phnom Penh, and then, discuss together about it.

We are now in 2018. I am a 29 years old (charming man, sorry but it is). I like to catch middle-range girls under 25 years old.

Let's discuss.

*Hostess bars.

In the dry season (no rain) and week-ends, I discovered that it's actually very difficult or even no more possible to barfine an attractive girl at a reasonable price. The most part of the lady "only drink". The salary of 100 $/ month and 1. 50 $ extra bonus (lady drinks) are enough for these girls. And, if you search enough in plenty bars, you will find someone "ok for barfine", usually a not really young and beautiful girl, at the price of: 50 $ for short time; and 100 $ for long time; "boom boom 2 times maximum" ! (passive sex).

New 2018 rule, I promise.

I feel that in the week (Monday to Thursday) and during the rainy season (August to November) it's easier to get a girl "out" and don't "over pay" because there is no one tourist customer. Only the old selfish expats:-the or at least, people not in the rush and people aware of the cost of life in Cambodia.

I meet last week-end so many tourists so frustrated in the street at around 2 AM saying things like that: " We want find girls for boom boom! It's so easy in Thailand! Here, girls only drink WTF?"

Hum, you seems right, welcome to the new Cambodia.

Something scammy is very new to me and I experiment it a lot during my last evenings there. Here the story: girls drinks with you and * do no say "no for barfine" do not say " I only drink ". Good good, I found it!

"Are you ok for long time 50 $ ?" "Humm humm, why nit why not? # drink drink ". And then! After few lady drinks paid generously and getting horny, when you want " Check bill and bar fine ". Oops, the girl no more go outside. Now changing mind. Have blood period, need to take care baby-mama, miss buffalo or other b.

Now: " I only drink sorry. Or at least 100 $ you know, Cambodia is like that ". Huch!

I am not used to this kind of cheating in Cambodia. But, my bad, I experiment more and more, time to time here:

I guess the prime minister ask the working girls to increase their prices, conspiracy, inside job.

*Massage for foreigners.

The experience it's not so sweet and colorful than in Thailand.

Here the common experience of massages in Phnom Penh:

1 - walking around the streets near the river side of Sisowath Quay, get sweat (f* hot country).

2 - putting my head behind the doors of massage parlor (usually, no body catch you outside).

3 - asking, "you have young girls for massage?? I don't like massage with grand-ma LOL LOL."

50% of massage parlors do not even understand the request and look me "confused" .

25% of parlors have only old-fat-dirty ladies available.

In the 25% left with one young girl available: many time, I order 1 girl downstairs (" you can oil massage me? You? You! OK, massage with you so " go up, get naked and then, they change me the girl by a granny and I have to / grumble-growl / to get my girl back; a young girl who cannot give decent massage and 80% of the time, do not provide any extra-special-happy-happy.

I think around 10 $ for 5 minutes working hand it's a fair deal for massage girl who earn less than 100 $ for a month of 27 days staying at work.

In Siem Reap, you can get a hand job pretty easy near the Angkor Night Market.

* Massages for Asian people in big luxurious building:

I plan to have a look at this kind of shops, but I am a shy Westerners. I need to be caught up on the street and I don't feel comfortable to go inside a big luxurious building with storefront written in Chinese only: " is it secure? They speak English? As a white skin prince charming they will try to scam me or not? Have young girls inside and if not, will be confident to say goodbye save my time and keep my money? ".

I hear about the places in Sothearos Boulevard: "Soul Golden City" ; "Elephant massage" .

Other, where?

Customers Chinese, Vietnamese, Japaneses are used to manage with that kind of place.

What about you western guys?

* KTV.

Same problem here. It's "Asian customers oriented". I guess you have to pay for room, box of drinks, rent girl (s) (100 $ burned already) and then. What? Maybe the girl do not go out?

* Darlin Darlin, Ponton:

Do we really need to pay 100 $ for a short time in Darling Darling?

Or to wait till 3 AM to meet a girl who smokes ice in Ponton?

* Brothels: Massa; shed-garage (next to the Chinese House Restaurant) ; massage parlor for "10.000 RIELS".

I have a look outside that places already and only seen fat dirty ladies who cannot speak a little word of English.

* Street: what Phnom, 51 Golden Sorya Mall.

(Promotion) you can take the risk to get HIV for 10 $ with a dirty lady without teeth anymore. She will be happy to stole everything in your home if you sleep well.

* To conclude:

I stay in this country for few time now. I really love Cambodian people, I am sweet and respectful with any of them. I am used to pay extra money for a job well done.

I understand first they miss some "ambition" : eating chicken feet everyday is enough.

I think also they have cultural mind of "lazy people". OK, they suffer of war 40 years before.

But, they are so poor. The globalisation is here right now! They don't do anything with their country, then, Chinese buy everything: open casino-brothel and put Khmers at work for a nasty salary, when they don't forget to pay them; Chinese also kill khmer motorbike drivers every weeks in the busy streets, driving so fast.

I feel so upset to see people who can potentially get 1000 $/2000 $/3000 $/ month as freelancers (like in Thailand) get scammed by other Asian people who take advantage of the political situation of Cambodia. So sad to see that Cambodians working better as slaves than they work good as entrepreneur, for their own pocket.

Thailand is a modern copy of Cambodia and the land of smile long time taken advantage of the neurotics Westerners to get so many money, building all the Issaan with our perversion.

It seems Cambodia will remain empty. A Chinese annex, like the Tibet.

Thanks for reading, hope to collect a lot of opinion here.

Punk Boulala
02-05-18, 11:41
Hey Everyone,

Thanks for the details on pricing. I'm not one to overpay. I will always walk away if I think I'm being treated like a sucker. I've been doing this in Asia for about 15 years, but slowed down a lot recently. Anyway, is it still a pain in the ass to change $100 bills in PP? The money changer only gave me hundreds. It was a great rate, so I didn't complain.

I'm interested in meeting friends, so if anyone wants to meet-up, please inbox me. I'll be arriving on the 14th. I'd like to do some clubbing and bar hoping.

Muzungufotsy
02-05-18, 12:28
I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.These prices are just ridiculous.

SlowAndEasy
02-05-18, 14:12
For LT in hostess bars, I won't pay more then usd60 plus barfine $10.

ST max I pay is usd25.

For any freelancers in phnom penh, ST USD20, LT Usd40.

In fact, in what phnom, I pay only ST 10, LT 35.

This is Cambodia, and if I'm a Cambodian, I too will quote as high as possible to a foreigner, just trying my luck.

We live in a world survival of the fittest. May the best man win.I guess I am over paying. I will try out your pricing the next time I am in PP.

Franga
02-05-18, 18:19
Anyway, is it still a pain in the ass to change $100 bills in PP? The money changer only gave me hundreds. It was a great rate, so I didn't complain.
To change $100 usd cash notes just change your money at one of those street money changers that seem to be all over the place. But this is to receive Cambodian Riels. The rate is more or less fixed most of the time and there is only a very small buy / sell spread. So there is no risk in holding riels.

You see, everyone in Cambodia will accept riels just as gladly as they will accept your dollars. In fact the restaurant that I usually eat at in Phnom Penh actually prefers that you pay in riel. And my guesthouse has no problem accepting either riels or dollars. Sometimes I pay them in dollars and sometimes I pay them in riels. Its pretty much 4000 riels to $1 usd, so easy to work out in your head how much to pay in riels.

The money changer will usually give you a mix of 20,000 (worth $5 usd) and 10,000 (worth $2. 50 usd) riel notes. That way you always have a supply of low denomination notes to pay for all your daily needs.

Just remember that it is illegal to take riels out of the country so spend or convert them before you depart Cambodia. But no-one has ever checked me at the airport on exit.

SlowAndEasy
02-05-18, 21:21
These prices are just ridiculous.Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided the prices that you feel is fair.

SouthEaster
02-06-18, 06:32
Slowandeasy. Have another look at SMs prices. Add 20%. Stick to that unless you are willing to walk away. Enough said.

SE.

Onico
02-06-18, 09:29
Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided the prices that you feel is fair.My concern is Cambodia will never attract our kind of visitors till:

* the price of entertainment is 2 or 3 times more expensive than neighbour countries (Thailand.) for less quality of service.

* real estate 5 o 6 times expensive for more dirty cities.

* street local food is less safe and tasty.

* cost of living is up.

- hopefully, with mobile apps like PassApp we now have good prices and facilities for transportations. No need to bargain venal tuktuks anymore.

- also, we still have easy long term visas, but, for how long?

Please, look at my long long review of the situation now in Cambodia / Phnom Penh here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?937-Phnom-Penh&p=2137290&viewfull=1#post2137290.

AskeAske
02-06-18, 13:34
These prices are just ridiculous.Before I paid 20 to 30 dollar + BF for a girl from a bar in PP. Cheaper if it was one of my regulars. Now it is difficult to take a new girl for less than 40 dollar and many don't go for less than 50 dollar. The going rate is not 100 dollar, but it is also not 20 as before. What is your experience, Bob?

Fast Eddie 48
02-08-18, 22:51
Hey Everyone,

Thanks for the details on pricing. I'm not one to overpay. I will always walk away if I think I'm being treated like a sucker. I've been doing this in Asia for about 15 years, but slowed down a lot recently. Anyway, is it still a pain in the ass to change $100 bills in PP? The money changer only gave me hundreds. It was a great rate, so I didn't complain.

I'm interested in meeting friends, so if anyone wants to meet-up, please inbox me. I'll be arriving on the 14th. I'd like to do some clubbing and bar hoping.To Punk Boulala.

I been to Cambodia 3 time never need to change money I always just use USD bring small bill one and five for motor bike and hotel will also change your 100 usd bill to smaller usd bill, the THB is also widely use I use 50 bht for short trip on motor bike most vendor will give you small change in Riel and I just give it to the kid on end of my trip.

Fast Eddie 48.

Mr Enternational
02-17-18, 07:05
For LT in hostess bars, I won't pay more then usd60 plus barfine $10.

ST max I pay is usd25.

For any freelancers in phnom penh, ST USD20, LT Usd40.

In fact, in what phnom, I pay only ST 10, LT 35.

This is Cambodia, and if I'm a Cambodian, I too will quote as high as possible to a foreigner, just trying my luck.

We live in a world survival of the fittest. May the best man win.Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?

And bar girls are still running the drink scams. The other night 5 of us were on 104. Chicks lured us into Rose Bar. We are trying to talk about getting some ass. They always pressure you by saying buy a drink first, then we talk about it. As soon as we bought drinks those biches left us and headed to the other side of the room never to return. 48 more hours until I am back home in Pattaya. This place can go to hell.

Punk Boulala
02-17-18, 07:27
Last night I visited some places at the main intersection on 136. I ended up bar fining a girl from a place, but I forget the name. It is across from Mr. Butterfly.

Cost:

- Beer for me $2.

- Drink for her $3. 75.

- Bar fine $10.

- Her ST ask $50.

I agreed to her asking price of $50. All in this cost me $65.75. My guess is you won't get much cheaper from any of the main bars at that intersection. I'd say the girl was an 8 as far as looks and body go. She let me do whatever I wanted during our ST together and she had a good attitude with good English skills. ST in this case included two shots and she left shortly after the second shot, which was exactly what I wanted. Overall, it was a good experience and I'll probably try different one tonight.

Kazeu
02-17-18, 08:30
The prices are totally out of whack with what is on offer. Who is paying these prices? I've been to Cambodia / Phnom Penh many times over the years, and it was never a great place to monger in my opinion and add to that its deteriorated at a greater pace than all other countries (from a monger perspective). I struggle to find a cause for this. Is there a way for us to fight back against this? Maybe a monger's guild / union that blacklists certain bars / girls? Or approves certains bars?


Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?

And bar girls are still running the drink scams. The other night 5 of us were on 104. Chicks lured us into Rose Bar. We are trying to talk about getting some ass. They always pressure you by saying buy a drink first, then we talk about it. As soon as we bought drinks those biches left us and headed to the other side of the room never to return. 48 more hours until I am back home in Pattaya. This place can go to hell.

SacredMan
02-21-18, 09:25
Last night I visited some places at the main intersection on 136. I ended up bar fining a girl from a place, but I forget the name. It is across from Mr. Butterfly.

Cost:

- Beer for me $2.

- Drink for her $3. 75.

- Bar fine $10.

- Her ST ask $50.

I agreed to her asking price of $50. All in this cost me $65.75. My guess is you won't get much cheaper from any of the main bars at that intersection. I'd say the girl was an 8 as far as looks and body go. She let me do whatever I wanted during our ST together and she had a good attitude with good English skills. ST i...........ht.At $40, I believe she will readily agree.

At $30, she may or may not agree.

At $35, I believe she will give in too.

Tcvve
02-21-18, 22:33
Can anyone confirm if the GSM Bar complex (st 51) is completely torn down now?

Renovation is supposedly ongoing.

Was there in October 2017 and 2 bars remained open, but now read they are gone.

Where have the bars / freelancers relocated?

Thanks.

TC.

Mr Enternational
02-21-18, 23:09
Can anyone confirm if the GSM Bar complex (st 51) is completely torn down now? Renovation is supposedly ongoing. Was there in October 2017 and 2 bars remained open, but now read they are gone. Where have the bars / freelancers relocated?Why do people always assume that when something is closed down / torn down that the bars and hookers relocate? You can read some threads and see that mongers are anxiously waiting the return of some place that closed down 10 years ago. From my mongering experience around the world, when that shit is gone then it is gone. Nobody is building new mongering venues. They may recycle an old one, but new ones just don't happen. Just be thankful that you got to enjoy it while it lasted. Those chicks are probably somewhere waitressing now.

Tryntry
02-22-18, 16:34
Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?Unfortunately, this is the new reality of the scene. Am not sure what's causing the spike in prices, but what you posted is the norm. Some guys just overpay and don't care.

A buddy of mine last December took a bar girl $70ST and gave her $30 tip!

She was really cute and great service, when I BF her earlier this month. Gave her $70 and $10 for her great service. Yeah I am overpaying, but she remembered me and said my buddy gave her $100. F me!

SacredMan
02-23-18, 04:15
Unfortunately, this is the new reality of the scene. Am not sure what's causing the spike in prices, but what you.....

A buddy of mine last December took a bar girl $70ST and gave her $30 tip!

She was really cute and great service, when I BF her earlier this month. Gave her $70 and $10 for her great service. Yeah I am overpaying, but she remembered me and said my buddy gave her $100. F me!Many times when I book a girl, I bargained but after the deed, I paid more then what they asked.

In Cambodia, everything we need to bargain. For eg, 1 yr ago, I wish to take a taxi from pp airport to sihanok, the taxi man quoted me usd120. After a series of bargaining, the taxi finally agreed at usd60.

Meo Den
02-23-18, 04:46
Yeah I am overpaying, but she remembered me and said my buddy gave her $100. F me!Did your buddy admit / confirm this?

Tryntry
02-25-18, 15:48
Did your buddy admit / confirm this?Yes, I knew that going in but her service was way above the normal bar girls. I had bargained another girl from the same bar for $50ST, but she ended up to be a dead fish.

But that's the fun of what we do. Sometimes good sometimes bad, sometimes you over pay, sometimes you luck out.

ButtLover
02-25-18, 17:04
Yes, I knew that going in but her service was way above the normal bar girls. I had bargained another girl from the same bar for $50ST, but she ended up to be a dead fish.

But that's the fun of what we do. Sometimes good sometimes bad, sometimes you over pay, sometimes you luck out.Hi.

I meet a nice girl at Black cat bar a couple of mounth ago. She wanted 30 USD for ST.

I think the barfine was 10 USD.

BL.

Blanquiceleste
02-26-18, 08:17
A post after a long time, and I see this PP thread sounding just like the one for Pattaya. Mongers lamenting over prices. Get over it guys. People pay what they think they should and what they can afford. There is no more science to this, than a bar of soap.

I have a question for expats living here or mongers who have frequented PP several times. I have visited 3 times and I am no expert.

April 29 is the Visaka Bucha day. What does this mean for bars, girls and alcohol? I know what happens in Thailand but I do not want to extrapolate that knowledge to this market.

NewImage
02-26-18, 13:19
Hi.
I meet a nice girl at Black cat bar a couple of mounth ago. She wanted 30 USD for ST.
BL.Sorry had to do it but did you mean. Met a nice girl a couple of "mouths" ago? Seems like Freud is slipping again. LOL.

Meo Den
03-02-18, 11:47
It looks like Yang Mei on st 252 is being squeezed.

It was open this afternoon but only a handful of masseuses were present. Possibly the more desperate ones. And they were in their street clothes.

I took a new one (blonde) and after considerable time-wasting with a pointless attempt at massage and numerous phone calls she indicated she would have to check downstairs if sex was allowed. She came back and told me no, not on the premises, but we could use the guest house across the road ($5). She offered to pay for the room herself but by then I wasn't interested as all the bad signs were there: pathetic massage, telephone, moaning about money etc. She wanted me to take her mobile number as she seemed keen to do home visits.

Downstairs I paid the $7 and the papa / mama confirmed what she had told me.

Given that they were still open it looks like they are being leaned on by the powers that be, looking to increase their tea money rather than to close them down altogether.

It may blow over. If not they will be back to turning street tricks which is where most of them came from.

I also noticed that most of the pimps were absent, just the doorman and two tuktuk drivers on the street.

AussieGuy100
03-04-18, 03:27
Yes, I knew that going in but her service was way above the normal bar girls. I had bargained another girl from the same bar for $50ST, but she ended up to be a dead fish.

But that's the fun of what we do. Sometimes good sometimes bad, sometimes you over pay, sometimes you luck out.The range of prices is quite wide depending on how much the girl needs the money, the bar she works in, and how much she likes the customer.

If she quotes a very high price it is her polite way of telling you she doesn't want to go with you. Even if you agree to this high price she's likely to give you a very basic service.

If you stagger into the bar half drunk wearing old clothes and smelling bad, she will adjust her prices up accordingly. Though if you go too far the other way and arrive wearing an expensive watch, jewelery and tell her you are staying in a hotel she knows is very expensive then similarly she will initially quote a high price.

The girls really do place a lot of importance in your personal presentation, whether you buy them just one drink or three, and how you treat them when you are negotiating a price with them (do not negotiate aggressively).

The last week of any month is when you will get cheaper prices. The girls have run out of money and need some to pay for food and make up.

In Phnom Penh hostess bars the ST price that the girls are happy with is from $30-$60 depending on the factors above, long time from $40-80. Yes some girls ask for (and sometimes get) $100 for ST or LT. That's up to you if you think that girl's energy, enthusiasm and beauty is worth it.

AussieGuy100
03-04-18, 04:12
Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?
As a bar owner who has talked to dozens of girls about their feelings towards customers, I have to sigh a little when I see threads like this about how much or little everyone thinks the girls should get!

Imagine YOU have very little money and a customer comes into your office and asks how much for your building services, accounting services, whatever it is your expertise is in.

When you tell them, they suggest a much lower price. You eventually agree on a much reduced fee because you really need the money for your mortgage and children's school clothes.

But you give your customer a very basic service with no frills and a slightly resentful attitude because they just wanted the lowest possible price rather than seeming to appreciate you and your skills. Had they shown some appreciation and offered you slightly more, you would have thrown in all sorts of extras and been a lot happier. So it is with most of the bar girls.

Their difference in attitude and performance is amazing for the sake of an extra $5 or $10.

I'd suggest you remember this the next time you are hassling a gorgeous 22 year old girl to accept $10 less for the privilege of having her take care of you for an hour or a night.

Mr Enternational
03-04-18, 06:49
Their difference in attitude and performance is amazing for the sake of an extra $5 or $10.

I'd suggest you remember this the next time you are hassling a gorgeous 22 year old girl to accept $10 less for the privilege of having her take care of you for an hour or a night.The difference is that I don't look at it as a hooker doing me a favor. I look at it as me doing her a favor. See, I have a pocket full of money, but she does not have a bar full of customers wanting to take her. She needs money more than I need pussy. Things would be different if this was the grand opening of Cambodia and there was no bench mark, but like I said I had been there before, so I did have something to compare it to. For prices to have gone up 400% was preposterous.

I never stated having a problem with performance. If you look throughout various threads, guys generally have problems with chicks they are paying too much. I paid the one chick at Tiger 30 plus 12 barfine. I paid another chick that I met close to Pontoon 30, and I paid another chick 20. I did not have a problem with the performance of either chick. And they keep messaging me even though I have no plans to return to Cambodia.

And even if you did pick up a chick that gave a bad performance, thinking that if you had given her more money she would have been better is 100% speculation. Neither can you say had you given a great performer less money that she would have been worse. That is a strawman argument. You could just as well say that a cheap chick will perform well in order to get you as a regular customer or show you that she is worth more.

As a matter of fact, I had a hooker in the Dominican Republic once give me free services (and this is not the only time one has done that) just to show me how good she was. She was confident that if she gave me a sample, I would be back for more. Performance is simply not tied into price when you are talking about hookers. I have had top notch for free and shitty for $60.

P. S. As a bar owner that employess these women, I assume that you give them a higher salary to get better performace out of them in the bar as well.

I am back home in Thailand. I met a chick at 7:30 last night. It is now 1 in the afternoon and she is still here. She has not wanted anything to eat and has not even taken any water and has been a total GFE. When she finally decides to leave, I will hand her $30 and more than likely she will ask when she can come back. I could have just as well gone to a gogo bar last night and gotten a chick that would be well over $100 and she would have been gone by now.

AussieGuy100
03-04-18, 23:36
The difference is that I don't look at it as a hooker doing me a favor. I look at it as me doing her a favor. See, I have a pocket full of money, but she does not have a bar full of customers wanting to take her. She needs money more than I need pussy.

And even if you did pick up a chick that gave a bad performance, thinking that if you had given her more money she would have been better is 100% speculation. Neither can you say had you given a great performer less money that she would have been worse. That is a strawman argument. You could just as well say that a cheap chick will perform well in order to get you as a regular customer or show you that she is worth more.

As a matter of fact, I had a hooker in the Dominican Republic once give me free services (and this is not the only time one has done that) just to show me how good she was. She was confident that if she gave me a sample, I would be back for more. Performance is simply not tied into price when you are talking about hookers. I have had top notch for free and shitty for $60.
Generally everything you say is true and obviously based on many years of mongering in Asia.

And yes of course you have all the power. Money talks. As in the tag line of this website. That was my point. To suggest to all these guys that they take a moment to think about this power and not abuse it. And also suggesting ways of getting a lower price.

I was just offering my personal observations from running bars here in Phnom Penh for five years and living here for seven years. But of course different people will have different experiences and form different views. My main point was to suggest that punters remember that the bar girls are people rather than just meat, and that they will often respond very positively to a nice approach from a customer. I've certainly found that countless times here. But yes there certainly are girls who are basically hopeless or indifferent however much you give them. And some girls who turn out to be unexpected gems. There are always surprises. Thatís part of the fun I think.

DoowahDiddy
03-10-18, 05:05
Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum but an experienced monger all over the world. Will be in PP this coming week. Will report on my experiences there with an update on some places I have learned about after having RTFF (thanks guys!

Anyone who wants to hang out and share stories, drinks, laughs, etc. In PP this coming week, just let me know.

Banana Boi
03-12-18, 00:32
I noticed that April 14th to 16th are holidays for Khmer new year. Are the bars open or closed in PP on these days?

Kniom
03-12-18, 19:13
I noticed that April 14th to 16th are holidays for Khmer new year. Are the bars open or closed in PP on these days?Anybody who can afford to go to the provinces will go. So PP will be a kind of ghost town.

AussieGuy100
03-15-18, 06:12
Anybody who can afford to go to the provinces will go. So PP will be a kind of ghost town.But it's a very nice ghost town. Most restaurants and bars are still open, the traffic is very light, there are street parties going on, and most importantly almost all the girly bars are still open. Sure there are fewer girls in them, but it's easy to move from bar to bar until you find a girl you like. It's actually one of my favourite times of year in Phnom Penh. Quiet streets but lots of bar action.

DoowahDiddy
03-15-18, 11:41
Hi guys,

As promised an update on PP:

GSM: Indeed completely torn down. Reconstruction is ongoing and from the pictures on the fence it looks like it will be nice. When? Nobody knows. Streets around are sleezy though, with a lot of drug hookers and ladyboys.

Darlin Darlin in the Nagaworld casino. Filled with absolute stunners, but prices are sky high. 150 USD easy, sometimes more for ST. The Chinese are taking it over, and prices rise accordingly, spending their gains from the casino.

104 Street and 136 street: It looks to me as though 104 street has lost its edge a bit. But I could be mistaken. To me it looks like 136 street has taken over with a lot more bars now, some with girls aggressively (but nicely) trying to take guys in but some are more relaxed, although the same rules apply as for taking the girls home. The pool tables are a nice touch as well. After a bit of bargaining I have been offered 30 USD for ST and 70 USD for LT. Nice girls, not the sleezy ones. Be advised that Mrs. Butterfly and Mr. Butterfly and one or two other bars at 136 (same owner) have a lot of ladyboys around.

Mao's (right next to the Night Market) also should be mentioned. Much bigger and more relaxed atmosphere as in the gogo bars, but with the same possibilities. Sort of my favorite, although it depends upon the night how crowded it gets. It closes also sooner, 1 AM I believe. But is it near to the gogo bars (either at 104 or 136) so you can walk over there after Mao's if your looking for something more. Or go directly to Pontoon.

Pontoon: Will try to check out tonight, wanted to go there every night but each time my business was concluded before 2 AM, which is when it gets crowd they say. Will try to hold on tonight until that time.

Hope this helps guys. PP is still a great mongering destination as far as I'm concerned.

Muzungufotsy
03-15-18, 18:41
Hi guys,

Hope this helps guys. PP is still a great mongering destination as far as I'm concerned.Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.

Lefeu
03-16-18, 06:45
Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.But he is talking about Darlin Darlin. Are you implying that you can get a stunner from there for 3 $ ST, or close to that? Not a chance my friend.

Muzungufotsy
03-16-18, 07:24
But he is talking about Darlin Darlin. Are you implying that you can get a stunner from there for 3 $ ST, or close to that? Not a chance my friend.Darlin or not it s still PP so this price is ridiculous considering we are talking about f. G Cambodia and yes a few years ago stunners could be found in PP for a few bucks believe it or not.

SouthEaster
03-16-18, 08:23
You could indeed screw stunners in the past for $3. However saying a few years ago is being disingenuous. 20 years, yeah. These days 30 bucks for a ST from one of the girlie bars is pretty good. You did well if you are a visitor to the city. Now about these gogo bars. The only gogo I ever heard of was tried around 8-9 years back and was closed by the cops almost as soon as it opened. Where are these gogos? To me a gogo is what you find on Walking Street in Pattaya.

SE.

Rocinha
03-19-18, 11:22
Reasoning that most Phnom Penh punters are familiar with Bangkok (as this writer is) I would be interested to hear some comments about how the bar scene in Phnom Penh differs from Bangkok?

The kind of comparison I am referring to is street 136 v Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy or Pontoon v Insanity. I should add that I have been to Bangkok several times but have never set foot in Phnom Penh.

DingoD
03-22-18, 14:03
Been coming to Cambodia for 11 years, approx 18 trips in that time and never has the prices I've been exposed to since 2007 even been within 75% of this $3 stunner rate??

Absolute garbage OR are we referring to late 80's / early 90's??

If so, what if any purpose does talking about prices 25+ years ago serve, assuming that they even once existed!

$3!! Hahahaha-you are a wonderful comedian!


Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.

Kazeu
03-22-18, 17:34
Night and day, I'm afraid. Night and day. Bangkok being much much better. Cambodian culture is much more conservative. None of the bars that you hear about in these forums have girls dancing on poles. They're not even scantily clad. They serve as hostesses that try to milk you for drinks. Soi Cowboy bars have topless and bottomless dancers in them. Nothing like that in Phnom Penh as far as I'm aware. Bangkok beats PP any day. Stay in Bangkok if you can.


Reasoning that most Phnom Penh punters are familiar with Bangkok (as this writer is) I would be interested to hear some comments about how the bar scene in Phnom Penh differs from Bangkok?

The kind of comparison I am referring to is street 136 v Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy or Pontoon v Insanity. I should add that I have been to Bangkok several times but have never set foot in Phnom Penh.

Goatscrot
03-22-18, 18:51
Been coming to Cambodia for 11 years, approx 18 trips in that time and never has the prices I've been exposed to since 2007 even been within 75% of this $3 stunner rate??

Absolute garbage OR are we referring to late 80's / early 90's??

If so, what if any purpose does talking about prices 25+ years ago serve, assuming that they even once existed!

$3!! Hahahaha-you are a wonderful comedian!ST was 5 USD in the late 90's to early '00's. Gals from Sharkys and Martinis were 20 USD LT. You could head out to Toul Kork and go really low budget; get laid and have a beer for 2 USD then. Have not been to Cambo since '04.

Member #4698
03-22-18, 19:28
ST was 5 USD in the late 90's to early '00's. Gals from Sharkys and Martinis were 20 USD LT. You could head out to Toul Kork and go really low budget; get laid and have a beer for 2 USD then. Have not been to Cambo since '04.I remember the good old days in Phnom Penh. I first started going there in 2002 and I wish I had gone earlier. But it was the bar raids in the fall of 2009 that marked the final end of the golden era. In spring of '09 I was still doing really sexy / pretty hostess girls for "up to you" price with no time limit or max number of shots per session. That spring I used to give my favorite girl $20 per session plus a small tip and we would shag 3 times before I would say good night to her. The next spring, after the raids, everything had changed; it was now one shot per ST for around $30. A few years after that Darling Darling opened up in NagaWorld stocked with attractive and well coiffed FL's asking $100 for ST and Phnom Penh became like the rest of capital city SE Asia more or less.

Only a little different ie you can still have a really good time in Phnom Penh with a young pretty girl for a relatively low cost with just a little luck. Last year, for example, my #1 New Girl of 2017 was a lovely 18 year old hostess girl that I met in Rose Bar. I think I gave her $40 or $50 for ST plus a barfine of $10. Our ST was only 1 shot, but she was the best New Girl shag I had in 2017, I kid you not, the sex with her was outfuckingstanding and 2017 was a very good year for me with a bunch of high quality New Girls I met in Jakarta, MNL & yes, Patpong.

DingoD
03-22-18, 21:49
ST was 5 USD in the late 90's to early '00's. Gals from Sharkys and Martinis were 20 USD LT. You could head out to Toul Kork and go really low budget; get laid and have a beer for 2 USD then. Have not been to Cambo since '04.Ok-so we have observers interjecting and calling pple out for overpaying and then quoting some mythical price of $3 from the best part of 20 years old? Somewhat puzzling and without doubt of no use to anyone at all.

20 years ago I could've purchased property in Melbourne AUS for 150 K which is now worth over a million dollars! Helpful huh?? If anyone wants to hear my stories of the cost of stuff from 20 years ago please PM me. LOL!

Anyways, back to PP in a month, looking forward to some fun times with reports to follow.

Cheers, DingoD.

Sam Sanuk
03-23-18, 02:06
Reasoning that most Phnom Penh punters are familiar with Bangkok (as this writer is) I would be interested to hear some comments about how the bar scene in Phnom Penh differs from Bangkok?

The kind of comparison I am referring to is street 136 v Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy or Pontoon v Insanity. I should add that I have been to Bangkok several times but have never set foot in Phnom Penh.After a couple of years of lurking here, this is my inaugural post on ISG. But I feel competent to address your inquiry. I'll try to be as direct as possible.

As background, I'm 75 years old and first became enchanted with the offerings of BKK over 40 years ago. For four decades, I have made the Nana Hotel in BKK my base station. I have witnessed the changes in the mongering / Sanuk scene in all of its evolution and have historically preferred Soi Cowboy over Nana Plaza. I first visited PP in early 2000. In PP, I now stay on Street 136 at the Lux Riverside.

Differences between the bars in BKK and PP can be broken down in several ways.

1. Ambience of the total venues. Cowboy and the Plaza are more brightly lit and vibrant, with girls in skimpy outfits doing the touting. Street 136 is quieter and not nearly the "neon" factor that can be overwhelming on Cowboy. Still, a lot of street activity.

2. The bars on 136 are almost sisters to small Cowboy bars like Toy Bar, Fanny Bar, Jungle Jim's. But without the overt diddling; also, without so-called "go go" dancers found on Cowboy or in the Plaza. Dancing is done when a solo girl or group of girls decide they want to dance (impromptu) . There are no rotating line ups; their attire will usually be their street clothes. This might be, at its most daring, short shorts and a cropped top. There are 2 bars on 136 that are heavy with lady boys, some of which are as initially deceiving as some can be in BKK. Those two bars are the Butterfly bars across the street from each other. I haven't noticed any lady boys in the other hostess bars. But I haven't been in all of the bars. There are a couple of bars open 24 hours and feature different shifts of girls. Candy Bar is one of them. You can check out YouTube videos for Candy Bar and Corner Bar. Corner Bar, by the way, was featuring maybe the most "risque" dancing featured as a "show".

3. Prices in the bars are substantially cheaper than in BKK bars. Barfines are generally 10 USD. I've heard that on weekends they maybe be 15 USD, but can't confirm that. Beer will range from $ .75 (75 cents) for an afternoon draught to 1.5-2 USD for a soft drink or a bottled beer in the evenings. "Lady drinks" 2. 5 USD I've never had a bar tab padded in PP. Maybe they notice that I check every piece of paper stuffed in the check bin when it is presented. LOL.

4. The prices for getting laid are substantially lower out of the bars in PP. $30 for ST; $50-70 LT. Like everywhere, you can negotiate. Until my most recent visit in August 2018, I never paid more than $60 LT. But there was one chick I wanted; She wanted $80 and I wanted to pay $60 We both compromised for $70 LT. In retrospect, I got a bargain at $70 on the basis of performance, attitude, and fun.

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"; have very little ability to speak English (compared to their sisters in BKK). Some of the girls are almost shy; In PP, they are generally less pushy than in BKK bars nor are they as "thirsty". I find the Khmer girls more "sweet". Calling some of them "girl next door" types might be a stretch, but maybe you get the idea. There are certainly sharks in all waters who know the "tricks" of the trade.

6. I can't comment on the discos and clubs, as they aren't my preferred destinations. (No country for old men and all that. LOL).

DingoD
03-23-18, 05:47
After a couple of years of lurking here, this is my inaugural post on ISG. But I feel competent to address your inquiry. I'll try to be as direct as possible.

As background, I'm 75 years old and first became enchanted with the offerings of BKK over 40 years ago. For four decades, I have made the Nana Hotel in BKK my base station. I have witnessed the changes in the mongering / Sanuk scene in all of its evolution and have historically preferred Soi Cowboy over Nana Plaza. I first visited PP in early 2000. In PP, I now stay on Street 136 at the Lux Riverside.

Differences between the bars in BKK and PP can be broken down in several ways.

1. Ambience of the total venues. Cowboy and the Plaza are more brightly lit and vibrant, with girls in skimpy outfits doing the touting. Street 136 is quieter and not nearly the "neon" factor that can be overwhelming on Cowboy. Still, a lot of street activity.

2. The bars on 136 are almost sisters to small Cowboy bars like Toy Bar, Fanny Bar, Jungle Jim's. But without the overt diddling; also, without so-called "go go" dancers found on Cowboy or in the Plaza. Dancing is done when a solo girl or group of girls decide they want to dance (impromptu) . There are no rotating line ups; their attire will usually be their street clothes. This might be, at its most daring, short shorts and a cropped top. There are 2 bars on 136 that are heavy with lady boys, some of which are as initially deceiving as some can be in BKK. Those two bars are the Butterfly bars across the street from each other. I haven't noticed any lady boys in the other hostess bars. But I haven't been in all of the bars. There are a couple of bars open 24 hours and feature different shifts of girls. Candy Bar is one of them. You can check out YouTube videos for Candy Bar and Corner Bar. Corner Bar, by the way, was featuring maybe the most "risque" dancing featured as a "show".

3. Prices in the bars are substantially cheaper than in BKK bars. Barfines are generally 10 USD. I've heard that on weekends they maybe be 15 USD, but can't confirm that. Beer will range from $ .75 (75 cents) for an afternoon draught to 1.5-2 USD for a soft drink or a bottled beer in the evenings. "Lady drinks" 2. 5 USD I've never had a bar tab padded in PP. Maybe they notice that I check every piece of paper stuffed in the check bin when it is presented. LOL.

4. The prices for getting laid are substantially lower out of the bars in PP. $30 for ST; $50-70 LT. Like everywhere, you can negotiate. Until my most recent visit in August 2018, I never paid more than $60 LT. But there was one chick I wanted; She wanted $80 and I wanted to pay $60 We both compromised for $70 LT. In retrospect, I got a bargain at $70 on the basis of performance, attitude, and fun.

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"; have very little ability to speak English (compared to their sisters in BKK). Some of the girls are almost shy; In PP, they are generally less pushy than in BKK bars nor are they as "thirsty". I find the Khmer girls more "sweet". Calling some of them "girl next door" types might be a stretch, but maybe you get the idea. There are certainly sharks in all waters who know the "tricks" of the trade.

6. I can't comment on the discos and clubs, as they aren't my preferred destinations. (No country for old men and all that. LOL).Great, well written, duly considered balanced and logical post.

Sure to be a good 'on point' reference guide to any newbies to the delights of Phnom Penh.

Kudos to you Sir!!

Uncle Volodya
03-23-18, 05:57
5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"; have very little ability to speak English (compared to their sisters in BKK). Some of the girls are almost shy; In PP, they are generally less pushy than in BKK bars nor are they as "thirsty". I find the Khmer girls more "sweet". Calling some of them "girl next door" types might be a stretch, but maybe you get the idea. There are certainly sharks in all waters who know the "tricks" of the trade.

6. I can't comment on the discos and clubs, as they aren't my preferred destinations. (No country for old men and all that. LOL).Nice post! Very informative. Good stuff for newbies. And a very good comparison.

For 5. I'd also add that girls tend to be a bit more conservative and many won't do BJs. BBFS however is much more common. Though I really try not to fall into that temptation. Khmer girls are also less hardened and more clingy.

All in all I think I prefer Thailand, But PP is a nice change of pace for a few days :)

SouthEaster
03-23-18, 06:28
Have to say SS's post is the nearest thing to reality on the ground these days. Well done. A couple of things.

I have seen and heard on this board and other places that many girls in PP girlie bars will stitch you up with getting LD's out of you and then claim they don't go. Depending on your budget and attitude (BS meter) you may want to stop at one and pop the question before getting soaked for several and ending up disappointed. I rarely go to these places so YMMV.

In my experience (going back to 1996) one could get ST in a couple of well know locations though if you didn't care to bargain it was 5 bucks straight up. Tip was dependent on service (which was better than what you normally get now! $2 for a beer and a fuck? No. Even most Khmer guys were paying 8-10,000 back then. And for the record I was still getting LT from Martini in 2010 for 25 bucks. Happy hunting guys.

SE.

Banana Boi
03-23-18, 07:10
Great first post, Sam. Please don't be shy in reviewing your adventures in PP and Thailand. We need straight shooters like yourself here.

I agree with Uncle V about being clingy. There are girls who I haven't even seen for 2 years who are still messaging me and sending me photos. I'm assuming I overpaid them.

It's tough to compare PP to gogo bar areas in Bangkok or Pattaya. If I were to compare PP bars to anything it would be to Soi 6 in Pattaya. The difference is the Soi 6 bars are conveniently situated on one single street and PP is spread out, albeit not over a large area. There are probably around the same number of bars on Soi 6 compared to the entire main PP RLD. BBFS is commonplace in PP but it also is on Soi 6 especially if you see the same girl more than say 2-3 times. PP is much more laid back. PP is very limited so a 3 or 4 night stay is all you really need. Good food in PP around the RLD is also a struggle but a cheap tuk tuk ride to Street 302 or Street 360 can solve that.

BaddHabbit
03-23-18, 08:05
Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.You seem to be missing the fact that he said prices are 'sky-high' - in other words, expensive. In other words he was NOT saying that is good!

BlazeJohnny03
03-23-18, 08:24
Hey,

Been to Cambodia about 3 times and yet could not find one girl or place where they give solely blowjobs. Does Cambodian girls not like giving out blowjobs? Does anyone know a spot by any chance?

GreenBud
03-23-18, 21:05
Been to Cambodia about 3 times and yet could not find one girl or place where they give solely blowjobs. Does Cambodian girls not like giving out blowjobs? Does anyone know a spot by any chance?Easy answer. Le Cyrcee. A lot of info on this bar in this forum. All girls will do BBBJs. Not all will do CIM. Surprised you couldn't find 1 girl to do BJs on your previous trips. Are you shy? At the other bars, you have to keep on asking. You have to ask all the necessary questions. BJ for 1 hour? CIM? Etc.

- I enjoy talking about the old days. IMO, the last year a foreigner could have gotten a cutie for $3 was around 2004. But you had to negotiate and get the local price. At that time, the price was $5 for a foreigner at K-11. The local price was 10,000 riel or $3. This was the time when the brothels on the main street had its door closed due to NGO / government pressures. You had to knock and they would let you in.

- I prefer Thailand's go-go bars, but Cambodia's hostess bars are a great change of pace. Cambodia is a little cheaper. Thailand is so much more raunchy. You have naked girls you can fondle. In Cambodia, the "worst" you have are girls in shorts that will dance on top of the bar.

- Talking abut the old days, remember when short time was 2 or 3 hours. In Thailand during the 90's and Cambodia in early part of this century, short time wasn't short. That was the draw of Thailand. Now it's an hour. Last year, I couldn't get a girl from Nana to accept 1.5 hours. She wanted extra. But not really complaining. It is still so much better than the US.

Aussie Fella
03-24-18, 13:32
I agree with Uncle V about being clingy. There are girls who I haven't even seen for 2 years who are still messaging me and sending me photos. I'm assuming I overpaid them.I've also found the clingy thing. In my mind, if I have sex I've paid for, it should be clear that it was just a transaction for a service and not an indication of ongoing love. Still, I have the same issue of girls I've paid to sleep with constantly messaging me and hurt if I don't want to make the arrangement something more permanent. Needless to say, I made the mistake of sleeping with a couple of girls for free in my early days and that was a disaster.

Sam Sanuk
03-25-18, 06:20
PP is very limited so a 3 or 4 night stay is all you really need. Good food in PP around the RLD is also a struggle but a cheap tuk tuk ride to Street 302 or Street 360 can solve that.What Banana Boi says is true. As BB noted, PP's RLD iis a fairly small area. The area can be navigated on foot almost anywhere in about 20 minutes (ok, 30-40 minutes by me). Or, a tuk tuk will take you anywhere in this area for $1. I would define the boundaries of this RLD as Sisowath Quay (riverside) on the north, Street 104 on the west, Street 136 on the east and Street 51 (Pasteur) on the south. Most of the pussy palaces are on Streets 104,110, 130,136, and 5. I have only eaten at three places within this area: "Ohlala" on the corner of Street 136 and Sisowath Quay and "Ostro" a block away on the corner of 135 and 5. Ostro is open 24 hours. Both serve good western food and offer entertaining people watching. Both have a wide selection of grub available at reasonable prices. On the corner of Street 110 and Street 5 I would recommend "Larry's 110". There is a big sign outside with a "110" on it. (clever, eh?) Nice pub-type atmosphere and lots of choices of food at moderate prices. At all three places noted above, there are a lot of westerners and a few locals; Larry's has a large expat clientele. If you are "adventurous", maybe you'd like to sample Srey Mom or Srey Thida. LOL.

If you crave some good Mexican grub, I can recommend a couple of places outside of the RLD. Only about a $2 to $2.50 tuk tuk ride away. I really, really like Mexican food. The first is "Mexicano". Warning: I found the servings to be generous. I'd advise ordering a main item and waiting to see if you really want or need more. Mexicano is on Street 288 between Streets 57 and 63. The other is called Tacqueria Corona on the corner of Streets 51 and 254. It is owned by an American expat and managed by his Khmer wife. Both places are popular with expats, tourists and local Khmer.

All places noted above are moderately priced. I've added some links referencing the above for a quick look. Chow down!

Ohlala: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d8329169-Reviews-Olala_Restaurant_and_Bar-Phnom_Penh.html.

Ostro: http://ostro.asia/.

Larry's: https://www.facebook.com/110-Street-Bar-Grill-551097138316269/?utm_source=tripadvisor&utm_medium=referral.

Mexicano: https://www.facebook.com/MexicanoCambodia/.

Tacqueria Corona: http://taqueriacoronaphnompenh.com/menu.html.

Tcvve
03-25-18, 22:53
Hi guys,

As promised an update on PP:

GSM: Indeed completely torn down. Reconstruction is ongoing and from the pictures on the fence it looks like it will be nice. When? Nobody knows. Streets around are sleezy though, with a lot of drug hookers and ladyboys.

Hi DoowahDiddy.

Is the replacement going to be a new Bar complex?

Do you have a link to the "fence" site having pictures of the current GSM area?

Thanks.

Blanquiceleste
03-26-18, 01:09
Ok-so we have observers interjecting and calling pple out for overpaying and then quoting some mythical price of $3 from the best part of 20 years old? Somewhat puzzling and without doubt of no use to anyone at all.

20 years ago I could've purchased property in Melbourne AUS for 150 K which is now worth over a million dollars! Helpful huh?? If anyone wants to hear my stories of the cost of stuff from 20 years ago please PM me. LOL!

Anyways, back to PP in a month, looking forward to some fun times with reports to follow.

Cheers, DingoD.Post of the decade! Well said!

Say, how much was the cost of a round trip from Melbourne to Singapore back in 2000? Business class?

Sock111
03-26-18, 03:29
Just landed last night and decided to see how things have changed since I was here 2 years ago. To sum it up, it was a good night. Ran into a girl I met last year and she was more than happy to tell me how things have changed since I was here last, as well as what happened to the girls I took last time. All it took was a group photo to jog her memory. I did notice that there are alot more younger girls, 19-22 fresh from the provinces. As it still stands, I'm a handsome man here, so I was well received at the bars I visited.

I went to 104 and it took me only 2 bars to find a girl whom I sessioned with last time. Now 22, at first she didn't remember me so I played along, until our conversation started to feel like de ja vu to her. It was amusing to see the look on her face of "I've heard this before" several times. When she did finally remember, she spewed out all the things we did last time and was very happy to see me back. She even made me add her to my facebook. I barfined her and she delivered, BB was on the table, which it was not last time. Although it was only short time because she wanted to sleep at home (which she informed me at the bar), there was no limit to the number pops and I got my money's worth. Worked out well because I was still tired from my flight and I feel sorry for the girls that listen to me snore.

It is now the next morning that I write out this report, going to freshen up and look for breakfast.

Uncle Volodya
03-26-18, 06:48
When she did finally remember, she spewed out all the things we did last time and was very happy to see me back. .More importantly did she let you spew in her mouth. LOL Seriously though, was BBBJ on the menu?

THanks for the post. Good to see 104 is going strong. Love the girls at that bar. Some real hottie. Makes me want to be there so bad.

Uncle Volodya
03-26-18, 06:51
If you crave some good Mexican grub, I can recommend a couple of places outside of the RLD. Only about a $2 to $2.50 tuk tuk ride away. I really, really like Mexican food. The first is "Mexicano". Warning: I found the servings to be generous. I'd advise ordering a main item and waiting to see if you really want or need more. Mexicano is on Street 288 between Streets 57 and 63. The other is called Tacqueria Corona on the corner of Streets 51 and 254. It is owned by an American expat and managed by his Khmer wife. Both places are popular with expats, tourists and local Khmer.

All places noted above are moderately priced. I've added some links referencing the above for a quick look. Chow down!

Ohlala: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d8329169-Reviews-Olala_Restaurant_and_Bar-Phnom_Penh.html.

Ostro: http://ostro.asia/.

Larry's: https://www.facebook.com/110-Street-Bar-Grill-551097138316269/?utm_source=tripadvisor&utm_medium=referral.

Mexicano: https://www.facebook.com/MexicanoCambodia/.

Tacqueria Corona: http://taqueriacoronaphnompenh.com/menu.html.Great list!

I'd also add Dot Grill on 144. They do all the local favorites BBQed on skewers. The Duck and Squid are particularly delicious. One of my and Banana Boi's favorites. I hope this gives them some more business.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d7080949-Reviews-Dot_Grill-Phnom_Penh.html

Banana Boi
03-26-18, 07:14
As uncle V says, Dot Grill is great. My favorite restaurant in the RLD hands down is the Riverhouse Bistro Restaurant at the corner of Street 1 and Street 110. First floor, not the Lounge upstairs. The 'Riverhouse Black Beef Blue' is delicious. For 24/7 food in the RLD the best option is likely the Mekong River Restaurant at the corner of Street 1 and Street 118. If you prefer Asian, there is the Noodle House on the corner of Street 130 and Street 5(?) across from Loco and beside Bluebird(?) bar. Not a ton of good options but hope this helps those who are hungry.

the best restaurant I've been to in Phnom Penh is Uraetei Japanese restaurant on Street 360 and Street 41. Be prepared to pay a Darling Darling LT rate for your dinner for 2. For a much cheaper Japanese option there is an ok Japanese AYCE named Yuzu right beside Uraetei or Marugame Udon at Street 302 and Street 63. These may seem far away but the tuk tuk ride through the Royal Palace and the Independence Monument makes it a worthwhile trip, especially if you've been trapped in the ghetto RLD more than 2 days.

Mr Enternational
03-26-18, 08:04
After a couple of years of lurking here, this is my inaugural post on ISG. But I feel competent to address your inquiry.
There are 2 bars on 136 that are heavy with lady boys, some of which are as initially deceiving as some can be in BKK. Those two bars are the Butterfly bars across the street from each other. I haven't noticed any lady boys in the other hostess bars. But I haven't been in all of the bars. There are a couple of bars open 24 hours and feature different shifts of girls. Candy Bar is one of them.

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"I guess at 45 I am not too old to have new idols. You are spot on in your report. I just want to add that there are plenty of lady boys in other places. Last month they were only in 1 of the Butterflies. I didn't look too close because there were so many, but I don't even think there were any women in there. (The other Butterfly had this young chick that was definitely mixed with White, but when I went back the next night to get her she was not there.) There were also several in Tiger Bar and Candy Bar. At Candy Bar there was one that appeared to be East African. I was curious as to where he was from but I did not ask because I didn't want him to get any ideas.

I stayed at Lux too. The only scantily clad chick I saw was a chick in Candy Bar that had on lingerie. She would go around to different guys at the bar doing her nasty dance. I think she was even on top of the bar at one point. I thought one guy was going to bar fine her the way they were making out. Next thing I knew she was over at my table dancing on me.

I also noticed one chick in there. The next day she was with one of my wingmen (there were 6 of us that all live in Pattaya). I thought he had gotten her from the bar, but he said he found her walking around. He gave her $40. One of my wingmen's son lives there so he had a van come pick us up the next day and take us around. We went to the other side of the river where they have built that new hotel. It is fucking nice on that side. When we got back to the Lux that chick came up to the van when we got out. I told her that it was my turn, but unlike my buddy I was only giving her $20. I fucked the dog shit out of her. She actually tried to go back to yum yum but I told her I wanted that pussy. She said your friend is nothing like you. He is too gentle with them and tries to cupcake them. When I finished with her, I told my buddy that he would not be seeing her around for a while. He did hit her again the next day before we left. He said he gave her $20 that time. I told him that he could not be living through the deals I make.

I also had the chick that I met on her motorbike outside of Pontoon. All the chicks that I was with started off with BBBJ without being asked and this chick didn't want to stop. I had to make her get to the main event. Also she kept sending me messages after I had left. I told her that I was gone and never coming back but she would still send messages. I finally had to block her.

Let me also add that it was the chicks at Rose Bar that lured us all in and would not discuss anything until we bought drinks. They didn't ask for drinks for themselves, just for us to buy for us. As soon as we ordered those drinks all of them went to the other side of the room never to be seen again!

Banana Boi
03-26-18, 08:49
the chicks at Rose Bar that lured us all in and would not discuss anything until we bought drinks. They didn't ask for drinks for themselves, just for us to buy for us. As soon as we ordered those drinks all of them went to the other side of the room never to be seen again!Wow that's pretty bad. Imo Rose bar is so overrated.

Uncle Volodya
03-26-18, 10:36
Wow that's pretty bad. Imo Rose bar is so overrated.100% agree. For me 104, Top 10, and Airforce are the best bars on 104.

Banana Boi
03-26-18, 10:51
100% agree. For me 104, Top 10, and Airforce are the best bars on 104.Airforce adds drinks to your tab BTW. Just be careful there.

Sock111
03-27-18, 02:58
Well, second day didn't go too well, but not terrible. I decided to meet up with another girl I met left time but didn't get the chance to session. I had her friend at the bar contact on facebook and she agreed to come to the bar since she no longer worked there. I had a fun time catching up and buying many lady drinks for her and her friends, which I did not mind as long as I was entertained. Through some kind of miscommunication she didn't want to come back to my hotel with me, she gave me the excuse of being on the rag, but I think I'm just not her type of customer. So what I thought was going to be a great night ended up being lonely as I went bar hopping after that. I gave her taxi money for her time and bid her farewell, and won't be bothering with her again.

Now for the reason I ended up alone. For research purposes I went to several more bars to check out the scene. After initially reporting a lot of younger girls have started working, which is still true, their inexperience and lack of enthusiasm is very apparent. I spoke with many, and most were their for the salary, rarely getting taken out. Most answered honestly and said that they did not enjoy working in the bar, they did it for the money to send back home. Since I feel old and look more for GFE than quantity, I decided to just save my shots for the next day.

Fortunately the girl I met up with the first day was more than happy to meet up after I messaged her on facebook. I learned an interesting thing, the khmer written language sucks, so everyone just sends voice messages in khmer, or short common English phrases. Never paid much attention until I had to do it myself. Learn something new everyday.

Sam Sanuk
03-27-18, 08:04
I learned an interesting thing, the khmer written language sucks, so everyone just sends voice messages in khmer, or short common English phrases. Never paid much attention until I had to do it myself. Learn something new everyday.Actually, the written Thai language doesn't suck. I have a lot of Khmer friends who message in Khmer (and English). They have no problems at all of which I am aware in communicating in Khmer. I'm completely illiterate in Khmer. I was taken back when I was trying to conduct a pre-employment interview with a chick in a bar. Her English was as limited as my Khmer. Basically, zilch. She pulled out her iPhone--probably 3rd or 4th hand and 5 years old. She punched something in the Khmer language and it translated wonderfully. I replied in English and she understood completely. I have no idea what app she was using. I should have found out. Now I'm thinking of trying to get a similar app for my Samsung (Android).

Fast Eddie 48
03-27-18, 22:40
Been coming to Cambodia for 11 years, approx 18 trips in that time and never has the prices I've been exposed to since 2007 even been within 75% of this $3 stunner rate??

Absolute garbage OR are we referring to late 80's / early 90's??

If so, what if any purpose does talking about prices 25+ years ago serve, assuming that they even once existed!

$3!! Hahahaha-you are a wonderful comedian!To Dingo.

The first time in PP is back in 2000 cheapest st from a low end brothel in town is 5 usd a white skin Viet girl, I have heard about K11 girl are as cheap as 3 usd back in the days but I never went there heard all girl are [CodeWord903] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903), but now days is not many white skin Viet and girls price are 6 time more expensive and quality is poor.

Fast Eddie 48.

Amnesia
03-28-18, 04:36
I'll be in PP for some hours business trip. Going to fly in during late evening and should be ready to go out after midnight. Going to stay somewhere around the independence monument.

What would be the best opportunities to get a girl after midnight? I prefer 18-22 age range, slim body, nice attitude. Can be either ST in my hotel or some kind of massage parlour. Don't want to walk around and drink all night long, because I have business meetings the next day. Something easy and convenient would be good.

Last time I been to PP is already 6 years ago so I believe the scene changed quite a bit. That time, I pulled a girl from one of the bars and she turned out to be a Disaster. A girl from Heart of Darkness / Pontoon turned out great.

Damone123
03-28-18, 14:17
I moved this from Siem reap forum for lack of response. I will be in Cambodia In June and was wondering what my best option for foot fetish activities would be? Freelancers, bar girls, massage salons. Also If anyone had any experiences with this, info would be appreciated. I've been to Thailand and most providers had experience with foot jobs and foot fetishes in general, never been to Cambodia so was wondering.

Sam Sanuk
03-28-18, 22:28
I'll be in PP for some hours business trip. Going to fly in during late evening and should be ready to go out after midnight. Going to stay somewhere around the independence monument.

What would be the best opportunities to get a girl after midnight? I prefer 18-22 age range, slim body, nice attitude. Can be either ST in my hotel or some kind of massage parlour. Don't want to walk around and drink all night long, because I have business meetings the next day. Something easy and convenient would be good.You might want to consider Soul KTV and Massage. AKA Soul Restaurant and KTV. It's in the area you are talking about. Has some very nice offerings and the price point isn't too bad. Full service was on the menu last visit. It's mostly a 4-story brothel. LOL.

Fast Eddie 48
03-30-18, 01:47
You might want to consider Soul KTV and Massage. AKA Soul Restaurant and KTV. It's in the area you are talking about. Has some very nice offerings and the price point isn't too bad. Full service was on the menu last visit. It's mostly a 4-story brothel. LOL.To Sam.

Is this the soul gold Korean KTV my friend went there last yr by himself girls very pushy for drink in 2 HR he got a 50 usd bar bill, he told me he only have a few beer the girl did most of the drinking yes girl are available for take out most taxi driver like to take you there and get a big cut but girl there are hot but expensive.

Fast Eddie 48.

Sam Sanuk
03-30-18, 07:50
To Sam.

Is this the soul gold Korean KTV my friend went there last yr by himself girls very pushy for drink in 2 HR he got a 50 usd bar bill, he told me he only have a few beer the girl did most of the drinking yes girl are available for take out most taxi driver like to take you there and get a big cut but girl there are hot but expensive.

Fast Eddie 48.I don't know if it is the same place or not, to be honest. It is possible, but my experience was not quite the same. I went with my Khmer girl friend's brother. He had taken a massage gal to a room upstairs on a previous visit. He showed me a photo he had taken. Looked very nice. I think he said he paid $40 all in. He isn't a rich guy. When we went to the KTV, we had 2 girls sit with us. Easy 7's. English challenged for sure. They shared our beers pulled from a bucket. So no lady drinks involved or pushiness from these two. No trying to up-sell food, etc. That said, except for the eye candy, I decided KTV is not my cup of tea. A farang friend says "I don't see the point of paying some chick to eat my food or drink my beer". LOL I think the payment to the lady is $10/ hour, room charge was $10/ hour (nice room); mamasan $5/ hour; beers about $1.50 each. I just remember that it was kind of like getting a $50 handshake. LOL The gal with me slipped me her cell number with a name for future contact. (I never did call her). Basically, my experience was it was a good place to get horny before going "bottom feeding". Kind of like going to a good go go in BKK and then pulling from the street. LOL.

Sam Sanuk
03-30-18, 07:52
I moved this from Siem reap forum for lack of response. I will be in Cambodia In June and was wondering what my best option for foot fetish activities would be? I've heard of "foot fetishes", but don't know what they are. I guess that means I can't help you. But maybe you can describe for those desiring enlightenment.

Amnesia
03-30-18, 09:49
You might want to consider Soul KTV and Massage. AKA Soul Restaurant and KTV. It's in the area you are talking about. Has some very nice offerings and the price point isn't too bad. Full service was on the menu last visit. It's mostly a 4-story brothel. LOL.Thanks! Can you provide more information, especially Modus operandi and pricing?

And can anyone recommend a few hostess bars that I should visit? There seem to be so many these days, and I really want to optimize time.

Sam Sanuk
03-30-18, 21:56
Thanks! Can you provide more information, especially Modus operandi and pricing?

And can anyone recommend a few hostess bars that I should visit? There seem to be so many these days, and I really want to optimize time.I can't provide any more info about Soul than I already did. I didn't go for a massage and didn't inquire about "take out" from the KTV. The Red Light District as far as hostess bars. I defined my personal description a few days earlier: Streets 104-136; the first 2 blocks starting from Sisowath Quay (riverside). Everybody has their own preference or favorite bar. I pretty-much limit my itinerary to Street 136; my home bar, if I have one, is Candy Bar. 136 Corner Bar (across the street) is another I have enjoyed. I suggest you query YouTube. For example: "Candy Bar Phnom Penh". There are a lot of videos for both bars and others. Of course, 99% of the girls working at a bar when these videos were made are probably working at different bars or are retired. The RDL isn't really too far from the Independence Monument area. Depending on time of day, maybe a 10 minute tuk tuk ride. Figure $2-$3 for a tuk tuk depending on your negotiating skills PP is a lot smaller than BKK. To get you started on researching, here are a couple of links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlYD-NDFZ8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo9fOxjsDhA

Amnesia
04-01-18, 07:46
I can't provide any more info about Soul than I already did. I didn't go for a massage and didn't inquire about "take out" from the KTV.I didn't necessarily mean for take out. You recommended this place as a kind of brother with some nice offerings and FS on the menu. So I was just curious about how it works. Did you just go there, picked a girl, and took her to one of the rooms? What was the pricing like? Just asking because I've never been to a KTV, and I don't want to sit and sing with a girl LOL.

Also, how was the performance? I've been to places in Phnom Penh and it was often quite a mechanical deadfish performance with lots of "not this" and "not here".

Sam Sanuk
04-02-18, 08:11
So I was just curious about how it works. Did you just go there, picked a girl, and took her to one of the rooms? What was the pricing like? Just asking because I've never been to a KTV, and I don't want to sit and sing with a girl LOL.I don't know how it works in this KTV because neither my friend nor I pursued taking a girl out of the KTV part of Soul. My friend did pull from the 5th floor massage. He says it's a fishbowl arrangement; pick a girl; he paid $7 for the room; negotiated "about $50" for full service (blow job and a fuck). He said his particular girl wasn't very "skillful". He says $50 was the going rate at the time (about 2 years ago). The room looked small, but like a nice hotel room. The gal had a nice body, but I couldn't see her face in the photo well. Knowing my friend, she would have had to be at least a 7 in the face.

We went to another place that was basically a brothel advertised as a hotel, KTV. It was busy with a lot of Asian customers. We got there kind of late, so I'm hoping that the "good" talent had already been kept busy, as the available chicks were certainly less than that needed to get me an erection. Prices for KTV room and drinks were cheaper than Soul, but we chose not to stay after seeing the lineup. I ran across this place while doing a bit of internet research. A review on Trip Advisor made it sound like a great place to book. Ha ha ha http://chea-rithy-heng-hotel-k-t-v-phnom-penh.phnompenhbesthotels.com/en/ https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293940-d3223513-Reviews-Chea_Rithy_Heng_Hotel_KTV-Phnom_Penh.html.

Sam Sanuk
04-03-18, 00:54
As I often do prior to a trip across the Pacific to Asia, I do a bit of recon. This includes checking boards such as ISG for current info, surveying YouTube videos, and corresponding with guys I know who have boots on the ground or who have made recent visits.

While checking out one of many YouTube videos, one caught my eye. At first blink, it seemed to resemble those "fashion shows" for which Yangon is famous. Check out the link here before reading on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFQxeL4NRo.

My usual sources were unable to provide me with any help in identifying the venue or confirming that my instincts were correct. After a few weeks, I turned to my Khmer girlfriend's brother for help. (he's single, a part time monger, and knows Phnom Penh.) he advised that he had no firsthand knowledge of the place, but one of his associates, had, indeed been there. His associate reported that he "pulled" a chick for $40 short time. The associate is Khmer, and my source did not know if the girls would be eager to go with a farang that they did not know. The name of the place is New Night World. It is located very, very close to the Chinese embassy.

Within the first couple of nights of my next visit to PP, I was accompanied by two of my girl friend's brothers to New Night World. The interior of the place is basically laid out like a dinner theatre. There is seating for several hundred guests. But this was a Sunday night and there were only about 70-80 (mostly small groups of Asian guys) sitting around tables. Some of the guys had obvious "hostesses" sitting with them. The three of us basically could sit anywhere we wanted. Though food was available, we only ordered beers which were relatively inexpensive. As I recall $1.50-$2. We were asked if we would like any female company, but we declined at the time, wanting to get an idea of what might be available. (The Khmer speaking person who escorted us to a table said that there were a few ladies who spoke a little bit of English.) We had observed a large number of nicely dressed and very attractive damsels sitting near the entrance, but it was at least 30 minutes before any of them made their way to the stage as backups to a couple of singers.

Turned out that the entertainment heavily featured some serious singers, as well as the "comedy" routines enjoyed by Thais in Tawan Daeng venues in BKK. It isn't a mongering destination primarily, as the local Khmers take their families and mixed groups there for parties and normal dinner dates.

I'the just gotten a new mobile phone that day and was anxious to give the video feature a tryout. Here is a very short 15-second video I made. I posted it on YouTube just for this report. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEdZy9y1X6Q.

I might mention that the "star" of the group (in my opinion) was the rather buxom beauty at the front in a red dress. I was considering have her sit with us ("sitting fee" unknown), but she was already committed to another table. The waitress who kept pouring beer into our glasses and keeping ice in them was really cute and friendly (and had a nice body). To say that she was English-challenged would be accurate, but she did try. I got the impression she wasn't on the game and I wasn't either-- that night. My married girlfriend was due to visit my room the next morning and I needed to conserve my "precious bodily fluids".

My overall impression is that the New Night World is primarily a Khmer venue (I was the only farang in the place). I would probably consider it a hybrid of the so-called "fashion shows" in Yangon and the Thai variety shows in Bangkok. IF most of the gals are "on the game" (not at all confirmed), they are collectively quite fuckable in terms of looks. And, if $40 is the price for short time, I saw many I would rent.

New Night World has a Facebook page which describes it as "beer garden adult entertainment service".

NewImage
04-04-18, 14:14
Have done some background research and RTFF. In my previous destinations, Bangkok, Bali, KL, Pattaya, Phuket, Cebu, Manila etc it was safe to walk around esp at night.

It appears due to spread of bars and safety aspect that tuk tuk door to door is better option.

So does it really matter (within reason) where hotel is, seeing there and back should be by tuk tuk.

Looking at either around Central market or Riverside.

LE Grand Palais looks good as close to Crycee but no pool and a little down market.

Am a FL type of guy so disco ala Pontoon and bars are my hangout.

Require decent size room, Western bfast, pool, quiet at night, 60 - 80 US. Any ideas or just point me into general area I should stay.

Okay Boutique has good reports?

Appreciate.

GreenBud
04-04-18, 20:11
Have done some background research and RTFF. In my previous destinations, Bangkok, Bali, KL, Pattaya, Phuket, Cebu, Manila etc it was safe to walk around esp at night.

It appears due to spread of bars and safety aspect that tuk tuk door to door is better option.

So does it really matter (within reason) where hotel is, seeing there and back should be by tuk tuk.If you thought Manila was safe to walk around during the night (I thought Ermita was sketchy), then Phnom Penh will be safe per your standards. IMO, Phnom Penh is more safe than Manila. Last year, there was only 1 murder of a foreigner (and that was an inside job).

If you do the tuk tuk option, then it doesn't matter where your hotel is.


Am a FL type of guy so disco ala Pontoon and bars are my hangout.

Require decent size room, Western bfast, pool, quiet at night, 60 - 80 US. Any ideas or just point me into general area I should stay.There's a few new hotels around Street 51 (near Pontoon). I would be cautious of the potential noise.

I usually stay at the Lux Riverside Hotel on Street 136. For the Superior King you get a large comfortable room, very quiet since the window faces the inside courtyard, with good buffet breakfast for $50. But it has no pool.

You can check out some other hotels to get the pool option: http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/phnom-penh-hotel-price.htm.

ItIsMe83
04-06-18, 00:06
Anyone know if the Palace Gate Hotel & Resort is GF? Last time I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel and altho nice and in middle of the RL district they charge you 10 Usd every time you bring someone in. The money isn't so much a issue but the policy is so odd for the kind of place and location so I'm up for a change.

Pinche Gringo
04-11-18, 01:12
You often hear of places in PP but they never actually true. Any BJ Bars in PP these days?

Sam Sanuk
04-11-18, 06:02
Anyone know if the Palace Gate Hotel & Resort is GF? Last time I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel and altho nice and in middle of the RL district they charge you 10 Usd every time you bring someone in. The money isn't so much a issue but the policy is so odd for the kind of place and location so I'm up for a change.Yeah, I've read that Sun and Moon charges extra. As for the Palace Gate, I suggest that you email the place and ask them directly. If I'm in town and considering booking a new place, I call and ask.

In my mind, there are two kinds of "guest friendly" policies: that which allows you to bring a guest without charge and that which charges for a guest (even if you've booked a double room). Like you, I avoid those that charge extra. Too many places that don't charge extra. (I don't mind a hotel requiring the guest to leave an ID or show ID upon arrival. The Lux on Str. 136 is in that category. That is, no extra charge, but must leave ID).

NewImage
04-12-18, 00:17
Yeah, I've read that Sun and Moon charges extra. As for the Palace Gate, I suggest that you email the place and ask them directly. If I'm in town and considering booking a new place, I call and ask.
In my mind, there are two kinds of "guest friendly" policies: that which allows you to bring a guest without charge and that which charges for a guest (even if you've booked a double room). Like you, I avoid those that charge extra. Too many places that don't charge extra. (I don't mind a hotel requiring the guest to leave an ID or show ID upon arrival. The Lux on Str. 136 is in that category. That is, no extra charge, but must leave ID).Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?

Cheers.

Mr Enternational
04-12-18, 00:33
Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?It was quiet enough for me. I had a king suite in the back. Maybe 318 or something. Breakfast sucked to me. A big complaint I had was there wasn't much light in the room. They did bring me an extra lamp though. And those mosquitos in the room ate me alive.

Banana Boi
04-12-18, 03:53
Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?

Cheers.The apartments there are very old and outdated. The kitchen I had was covered with baked on grease and not a kitchen you want to cook in. Get the normal room or the king suite.

You are literally 20 feet from the bars on street 136.

Breakfast isn't special but good enough if you want some bacon and eggs.

Noise is not a factor in pp. It's not like Thailand.

Sam Sanuk
04-12-18, 11:20
Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?

Cheers.I have exclusively booked Room 168. It is on the top floor on the back side. I'm sure that all rooms on the back are quiet, as the street activity isn't deafening even if you are standing in front outside. Room 168 has a very big balcony which has room probably for 10 people. LOL Also, a walk-in shower big enough for two (insert a thumbs up here). The entire room was spotless. I don't know from personal experience about the quality of the breakfast, as I don't get up early enough to try it. LOL As you can read from other responses, the breakfast is food. Whether you like it or not, is another story. I've read that others have not been particularly impressed with the selection or quality, but it may have improved since those reports were published. As noted, the bars start across from the front door of the hotel. Couldn't be more convenient unless they started in the lobby. Also, a number of places to get good food within 200 yards. I make my reservations directly with the hotel. "Srey Mom" handles the reservations and is very quick in answering or responding to emails. And she writes and speaks English pretty well. (I think she is a shift manager for the hotel).

GreenBud
04-12-18, 21:12
Breakfast sucked to me.I could see that. But that breakfast buffet is above average for what you get from the hotels costing $30 - $60 in Southeast Asia. Although that's not saying much. A good point is that the kitchen never runs out of bacon. In other places in Southeast Asia, I've come to breakfast late, and they run out of bacon, and all they say is, "sorry". But they have lousy coffee and juices.

I like that breakfast buffet because that's where I load up on my veggies / salad for my diet requirements.


And those mosquitos in the room ate me alive.You could have asked them to spray your room. But I hate to do that. And I also hate to put on deet.

What I do every time I check into a room in Southeast Asia is to go mosquito hunting. Since my hand speed is slow, I also will offer a $1 or $2 bounty for every mosquito my girls catch and kill.


I make my reservations directly with the hotel. "Srey Mom" handles the reservations and is quick in answering or responding to emails. And she writes and speaks English pretty well. (I think she is a shift manager for the hotel).

Srey Mon is efficient. It was $50 for the King Superior. No need for credit card to reserve. After check-in, you can leave and cancel anytime without fee.

But if you reserved on Agoda.com and prepay, then the room (last year) was $1 or $2 cheaper. Plus you get Agoda and credit card points.

What I did was to reserve it with Srey Mon, and then after I get there and spend a night, I cancel and reserve the rest of the stay with Agoda (assuming Agoda has that particular room available).

GreenBud
04-12-18, 21:35
You often hear of places in PP but they never actually true. Any BJ Bars in PP these days?I don't hear of BJ bars these days. In the old days, ya.

The government wants to be conservative. There are no BJ bars, no go-go bars, no bars with short time rooms, no bars that are naughty.

That being said, you can get BJs at some of the places. You probably can get a BJ at a K-TV, but I don't do those.

You can also get a BJ at bars that has a salon or a karaoke room.

Punk Boulala
05-02-18, 13:31
You often hear of places in PP but they never actually true. Any BJ Bars in PP these days?I went to one called Sophie's somewhere between 2008-2010. It very much was a BJ bar in exactly the way you'd imagine one to be in Phnom Penh. Beer was $2. Every woman gave me a $1 sample and the one I chose cost me maybe $5 or so. Real down and dirty shit. It was awesome.

Blanquiceleste
05-06-18, 16:00
I have just returned after a week of fun in PP. I was on ground from 30 Apr to 06 May. This report will be my third on PP and not much has changed since.

Hotel.

I stayed at The Lux Riverside, where I had booked a 1 bedroom apartment. $50 per night, not bad. As others have pointed out, this is a pretty basic apartment room, but it is very spacious. One can easily entertain around 6 guests at a time. Comes reasonably well appointed, with plates, bowls, dishes, cutlery, etc. The gas oven in my room was not as bad as BB describes, but I am not going there to cook, so I did not bother much about its working condition. The fridge is a nice big one, and can easily accommodate a full week's supply of water and beer. The only gripe I have of the living room area is the air-conditioning. It takes forever to cool down, and the 96 degree afternoons did not help much. The bedroom is very good in my opinion and the A/C is great. But I would like more than just 2 pillows and I prefer the benefits offered by blackout curtains for a late morning in bed. The breakfast was a bit disappointing. The hotel does not have its own kitchen for room service, but they will bring you a menu from the Olala Restaurant next door where the food is good, but on the slightly expensive side. No pool. I had trouble with the electronic locking system on my door that took nearly half a day to fix, but that can happen anywhere.

Overall verdict. Not as fancy and plush as The Quay Boutique Hotel, which IMHO is the best hotel one can find under $100. Lux might perhaps be comparable to Ohana Phnom Penh on St 148 which has a small pool and an impressive breakfast spread on the rooftop. The Bougainvillier is actually the closest comparison from a price point, but the rooms there are nicer, specially the Superior Suite. But at the price point Lux operates at it is hard to find faults. The big draw of Lux is that it is right on the strip, an advantage that no other hotel offers at that price range and quality standard. On my subsequent visits I might try the Riverside Suites which was getting renovated on this trip.

Food.

I absolutely ADORE Asian food, so I am never too far away from a good meal in PP. In general theory as one walks away west from the riverside, the prices get cheaper and crowds more local. One notable mention is a Chinese restaurant called Herk Fung which is at the western end of 136 (after Central Market) where it intersects with Street 93. There is a great Thai restaurant too a couple of doors down on the opposite side. The other place that became a mainstay for dinner is Oyster Restaurant at the intersection of Street 154 and Street 49. The BBQ seafood there is simply mindblowing. Also, the Fish Amok at Olala Restaturant is well worth its price although I do believe there is scope for a better portion size, given the price they charge.

I get all my consumables and supplies at the market on Street 13, mainly because of the pricing. For instance a 6 pack of 2 litre water bottles cost around $2. Buy this at any convenience store and that will cost you $0. 80 a bottle. You do the math. And I drink a lot of water. Likewise for beer, cigarettes, instant coffee, ice, snacks and other supplies. The only effort involved is in carrying it all back to the room in the sweltering heat.

Raison d'Etre.

My pickings on this trip were all mostly from bars around the main RLD drags with the odd treat from Darlin Darlin. A 10 bar summary in the order for best to worst IMHO:

1. Rose Bar. Located on Street 104, this place was a revelation to me. On previous trips I have not found atmosphere, quality, quantity or attitude here, but this trip was a turnaround. All boxes were ticked. Plenty of cute young girls, willing to barfine and delivering the promise made. My best performer on this trip was from Rose.

2. One Three Six. Funnily, this bar is located on Street 130 right across The Noodle House restaurant. They have a live band play 3 nights a week and the bar is always buzzing. Some really good girls in here, watch out for a few sharks. One incredibly hot chick I got a couple of drinks for turned out to be a virgin who did not go out with customers. I tried cross referencing this with 3 different girls at the same bar and they all said the same thing. Maybe true, guess I will never know. But in the future, when she is broken in I will try and make sure I sample her goods.

3. Angry Birds. Located on Street 130, this bar has few girls but the are all pretty fun. I got a very cute 5" tall spinner with a dazzling smile and superb tight body from here. She spoke practically no English, but Google came to my rescue. Plus asking for pussy does not need much language skills.

4. Corner Bar. Big bar, very good music and a fantastic place IF you want to party and have fun at the bar. Plenty of cute young doable chicks, but most of them are sharky and they clearly have a preference for Asian customers. They have a couple of dancers who are insanely hot and one of them will let you do anything to her over a few drinks and in between her dance routines. I had my fingers up her twat, face between her ass cheeks and hands inside her bikini top right there in the middle, at the table next to the raised dancing enclosure. I am not sure she is available to take out. She did not even shake my hand before I agreed to buy her a drink and when the drink arrived she sipped off nearly nearly three quarters of it before telling me "Why you so Hansum?" But it is a fun place and if you got the cash you can have a real ball here.

5. 69 Bar. This one is on Street 136 right across from Lux. Lots of promise, low on delivery. Needs some serious working on quality of girls. But there is the odd gem to be found in this bar.

6. Intoxica. Street 130 next to Angry Birds. I dunno what the fuck is wrong with this bar. One night they have a ton of chicks and the next day they are swatting flies in the bar. The bar has a weird odour inside and I did not stay for long.

7. Airforce. On Street 104, at the west end of the strip, this bar has promise but the mamasan makes it really hard for you to make conversation with a girl of your choice.

8. Honeypot. Again on Street 130, this has all the makings of a great bar. Some really cute girls outside reeling the customers in. Cheap drinks inside. Good aircon and and general clean feel. Decent music. And then the dogs take over inside. The girl for who you came inside is back out luring the next fool in.

9. Star Bar. This is a tiny bar tucked in the street connecting 136 and 130, just next to Mme Butterfly. I wonder why they are still in business. The Fish and Chips seller on the opposite side of the road seems to be more enthusiastic. My bad.

10. Loco Bar. And the worst bar for me on this trip is unequivocally Loco Bar. Things are wrong at multiple levels here. The owner / manager runs the place with a tight fist and this attitude will ensure the fate of this bar is sealed quickly. So, as you walk inside you will be greeted by this musty atmosphere, because the aircon is shut and the fans are wobbling about. Girls are not enthusiastic. It seems one has to buy a girl at least 3 drinks before you can barfine her. And on weekends no barfine can be accepted before 1 am. Might as well hit the bloke over his head and steal his cash, right?

So there we are. I did weave through a dozen more bars or so, but none are worth a mention. I also walked in and straight out of a few others. For those who are looking for a good time the above list should provide reasonable direction.

I also hit Darlin Darlin on a couple of nights and got myself a rental from there on one night. I know guys will say I took sand to the beach, but from DD we went to Pontoon to shake a leg before we called it a night. She was great in bed and stayed till 10 am next morning without a whimper and had no complaints when I handed her $120. This pick was on impulse and there was something about this girl I found strangely intriguing. Otherwise, while the quality of chicks at DD is head and shoulders above any other place in Phnom Penh, I find it hard to justify the asking prices to myself.

Apart from this all other picks were from bars and I paid $40 for ST and never more than $80 for LT, including tips. Only one exceptional performer got a big upgrade and I paid her $100.

Side Trip.

I took a day trip to Kep Beach and that was pretty good fun. $100 for the transport. The food at the Crab Market is great, but all said and done it is a long trip for one meal, making it a ridiculously expensive one. To top it all, my driver appeared to be on steroids and was driving like an F1 driver.

I am back in SG today and I am already thinking about the next trip. And my phone is still blowing up with messages from chicks I have met over the past few days. Paradise.

Paulr1950
05-06-18, 21:13
Thanks for detailed report I will try the food places next time I am there.

Muzungufotsy
05-07-18, 08:51
She was great in bed and stayed till 10 am next morning without a whimper and had no complaints when I handed her $120..How can a Khmer girl complain when you hand her over 2 months salary? Just F. G ridiculous.

Tryntry
05-07-18, 23:30
Anyone know if the Palace Gate Hotel & Resort is GF? Last time I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel and altho nice and in middle of the RL district they charge you 10 Usd every time you bring someone in. The money isn't so much a issue but the policy is so odd for the kind of place and location so I'm up for a change.I've never had to pay extra at the Sun & Moon for a guest. As I always book a room there for 2 persons. I'm assuming you booked a single?

In fact I was there 4/25-4/30 with two of my buddies - 3 rooms for double occupancy. They just asked for the girl's ID and other info.

I do walk down with the girl to make sure she gets her ID back (someone told me that the guys will ask the girls for a kickback) and they don't have to call my room. Am booking them again on my next visit.

Mr Enternational
05-08-18, 00:02
How can a Khmer girl complain when you hand her over 2 months salary? Just F. G ridiculous.Because the last guy handed over 3 months salary to her!

Uncle Volodya
05-08-18, 02:22
Haha! Blanky, don't sweat the haters my friend! Living well is the best revenge and it sounds like you guys sure did your fare share this trip!

Great report and full of very useful intel. I just have a couple of questions.

Do you find it is getting easier to find BJs in PP? Seemed kind of tough to find in the past. Especially form the new farm fresh girls. Is this changing?

You did not mention 104 bar or Sweet Lemon bar (right across form Lux hotel). Both of these have been good to me in the past (especially 104). Any news on these places?

Your report really whetted my appetite for PP. Perhaps we can coordinate a trip next time ?

Standing by in sultry Havana.

Uncle-V.

Xpartan
05-08-18, 03:59
I've never had to pay extra at the Sun & Moon for a guest. As I always book a room there for 2 persons. I'm assuming you booked a single?

In fact I was there 4/25-4/30 with two of my buddies - 3 rooms for double occupancy. They just asked for the girl's ID and other info.

I do walk down with the girl to make sure she gets her ID back (someone told me that the guys will ask the girls for a kickback) and they don't have to call my room. Am booking them again on my next visit.That's because the Sun & Moon charges extra $10 for double occupancy, or at least that was my experience.

If you pay single you'll pay $10 less per room per night, so if you don't bring a guest to your room every single day, that's a better deal, IMHO. Other than that, they'll part you with $10 one way or another.

Still highly recommend the place -- the rooftop pool alone is worth the price of admission. Pure heaven!

SouthEaster
05-08-18, 05:12
For the record I have lived in Cambodia for 8 years and had a restaurant for 5 so I know a little bit about prices and salaries. $120 a month is about right for a sit on your ass no talent required job, like most girls employed in bars. So yes, the posts about 2 or 3 months salary are erroneous. That said $120 for any girl in Cambodia is over the top and I am not surprised some guys are saying so.

No one hates a person for overpaying (at least I don't) but it is not just ridiculous, it spoils the girls and ensures that ridiculous prices will head to ludicrous!

SE.

Sam Sanuk
05-08-18, 05:41
I have just returned after a week of fun in PP. I was on ground from 30 Apr to 06 May. This report will be my third on PP and not much has changed since.Nice report! Sounds like you had a good trip without breaking the bank.

Blanquiceleste
05-08-18, 12:10
Haha! Blanky, don't sweat the haters my friend! Living well is the best revenge and it sounds like you guys sure did your fare share this trip!

Great report and full of very useful intel. I just have a couple of questions.

Do you find it is getting easier to find BJs in PP? Seemed kind of tough to find in the past. Especially form the new farm fresh girls. Is this changing?

You did not mention 104 bar or Sweet Lemon bar (right across form Lux hotel). Both of these have been good to me in the past (especially 104). Any news on these places?

Your report really whetted my appetite for PP. Perhaps we can coordinate a trip next time ?

Standing by in sultry Havana.

Uncle-V.Hey UV, have a cigar on me, I am told the best ones are rolled by nubile young girls against their inner thighs. Yummy!

To address your questions -.

1. No, getting a BBBJ was not hard for me. Every chick I picked did Yum Yum without much hassle. One girl was reluctant but eventually came good. Some were weaker than others though and had to be coached actively. One girl absolutely refused to do a 69 but was OK for me to eat her pussy while she lay eagle-spread. Strange, no?

2. I did not venture into Sweet Lemon, so I really do not know. As for OneZeroFour that bar has absolutely gone down the tube. The mamasan has changed, the girls are new but awful. It was my first stop in Street 104, given how good it was on my previous visits. I remember taking an amazing three holer from there. SAdly, things have changed for the worse.

Yea, we should coordinate a trip. Good luck mate.

Blanquiceleste
05-08-18, 12:14
Don't ever post the contents of a PM, that's why they are called PRIVATE messages. If there is an issue you contact me.

A3

Uncle Volodya
05-08-18, 14:59
Hey UV, have a cigar on me, I am told the best ones are rolled by nubile young girls against their inner thighs. Yummy!

Yeah. I am having a good time rolling my cigar between some honey colored cubanita thighs! LOL.

Thanks for answering my questions. Sad about 104. But from your report it sounds like a few of the other bars have really picked up.

Uncle Volodya
05-09-18, 01:05
For the record I have lived in Cambodia for 8 years and had a restaurant for 5 so I know a little bit about prices and salaries. $120 a month is about right for a sit on your ass no talent required job, like most girls employed in bars. So yes, the posts about 2 or 3 months salary are erroneous. That said $120 for any girl in Cambodia is over the top and I am not surprised some guys are saying so.

No one hates a person for overpaying (at least I don't) but it is not just ridiculous, it spoils the girls and ensures that ridiculous prices will head to ludicrous!

SE.100 USD plus has been the norm at Darling Daling for a few years now. I remember first hearing about at least back in 2014 or even 2013 when I first read about it in one of Natty Bumpos excellent TRs. Confirmed several times during my trips there.

Anyone that knows a little about the scene in PP should know that.

Blanquiceleste
05-09-18, 05:24
For the record I have lived in Cambodia for 8 years and had a restaurant for 5 so I know a little bit about prices and salaries. $120 a month is about right for a sit on your ass no talent required job, like most girls employed in bars. So yes, the posts about 2 or 3 months salary are erroneous. That said $120 for any girl in Cambodia is over the top and I am not surprised some guys are saying so.

No one hates a person for overpaying (at least I don't) but it is not just ridiculous, it spoils the girls and ensures that ridiculous prices will head to ludicrous!

SE.Appreciate the feedback. I have mentioned in my report that all my ST were $40 and LT around $80 maximum, barring one girl who I gave $100 to. These girls were all from bars along 136,130 and 104.

The girl I paid $120 to was from Darlin Darlin where the norm has been $100 for ST, sometime with just one pop. This girl stayed with me for nearly 10 hours which is considered LT and the starting point for a LT discussion with a DD girl is usually $200.

One should go there and talk to the chicks themselves before shooting off the hip like BM69 did. You may not agree with their price and walk away abusing mongers who pay that price. Or you could be a hard negotiator like Mr E and beat her down to $50. Or you could pay the price as a tourist who does not care what he spends as long as he is having a good time.

The other point is if you live in Cambodia then you have several advantages over being a tourist. You are better informed of market dynamics, you possibly know the language and you might even have a few hot chicks on speed dial. When you are visitor you have little time to waste and want to make the most of the available opportunities within a rough budget. And this is what I did.

Finally, a few of us here not paying $100 to a DD girl won't bring down the prices. Nor will my paying $120 raise it overnight.

Sam Sanuk
05-09-18, 06:30
1. No, getting a BBBJ was not hard for me. Every chick I picked did Yum Yum without much hassle. One girl was reluctant but eventually came good. Some were weaker than others..
2. I did not venture into Sweet Lemon, so I really do not know. As for OneZeroFour that bar has absolutely gone down the tube. The mamasan has changed, the girls are new but awful. It was my first stop in Street 104, given how good it was on my previous visits. I remember taking an amazing three holer from there. SAdly, things have changed for the worse.Likewise, I've never had a problem getting a BBBJ. Part of that is because I conduct pre-employment interviews. But during the interview process, it has always been confirmed. Was a time when Khmer working girls were problematic when wanting a BJ. Kind of like BKK in the 70's and early 80's. Now, it seems that they'd almost rather suck than fuck. LOL As for technique and experience, just remember, "there is no such thing as a bad blow job; some are just better than others". Also worth noting, most of the time the gals have been ready to mount bareback rather quickly. I keep a condom handy on the table next to the bed for a quick response.

As for the rosters of the bars, changes in the lline-ups can happen from night to night. A few might leave for another bar and some new ones (from another bar?) will take their place. I haven't been in PP in 8 months. I doubt if half of the damsels are still employed in the same bars. Doesn't matter to me. Go inside. Look around. Turn around and walk out if nothing pulls your heart strings. LOL.

Blanquiceleste
05-10-18, 00:35
Likewise, I've never had a problem getting a BBBJ. Part of that is because I conduct pre-employment interviews. But during the interview process, it has always been confirmed. Was a time when Khmer working girls were problematic when wanting a BJ. Kind of like BKK in the 70's and early 80's. Now, it seems that they'd almost rather suck than fuck. LOL As for technique and experience, just remember, "there is no such thing as a bad blow job; some are just better than others". Also worth noting, most of the time the gals have been ready to mount bareback rather quickly. I keep a condom handy on the table next to the bed for a quick response.

As for the rosters of the bars, changes in the lline-ups can happen from night to night. A few might leave for another bar and some new ones (from another bar?) will take their place. I haven't been in PP in 8 months. I doubt if half of the damsels are still employed in the same bars. Doesn't matter to me. Go inside. Look around. Turn around and walk out if nothing pulls your heart strings. LOL.Speaking of BBBJ there is one instance I must report, one of a girl from Loco bar on Street 130. As mentioned earlier, I walked out after just one drink because of the awful atmosphere in the bar and the ridiculous rules around drinks and barfines. But not before I slipped my number to a girl named Teay. This one is easily recognisable. She has colored her hair with some green tints, making her look like a peacock. Also has a tattoo on her thigh. Dresses pretty provocatively. I met her later only to find out that her pussy stinks, so I asked her to do a BJ only. And boy did she deliver, or did she deliver. Easily among the best on this trip, though not the absolute best. I gave her $30 for her 1 hour effort. So, those of you who want a NSA BBBJ you have been forewarned.

Speaking of rosters, I observed the situation of ground quite differently. I noticed that most bars had the same set of girls working night after night. In fact 80% of the bars I visited had the same roster from my last trip in October 2017. The ones that had changes were Rose and OneZeroFour. Rose had traded up while OneZeroFour had gone to trash.

Sammon
05-10-18, 02:02
Speaking of BBBJ there is one instance I must report, one of a girl from Loco bar on Street 130. As mentioned earlier, I walked out after just one drink because of the awful atmosphere in the bar and the ridiculous rules around drinks and barfines. But not before I slipped my number to a girl named Teay. This one is easily recognisable. She has colored her hair with some green tints, making her look like a peacock. Also has a tattoo on her thigh. Dresses pretty provocatively. I met her later only to find out that her pussy stinks, so I asked her to do a BJ only. And boy did she deliver, or did she deliver. Easily among the best on this trip, though not the absolute best. I gave her $30 for her 1 hour effort. So, those of you who want a NSA BBBJ you have been forewarned.
.If her pussy stinks it is possible she is carrying the same germs in her mouth, throat and tonsils. So generally better to avoid BBBJ. I generally do finger and smell test on every girl I am interested. I have been known to send them away even after paying the bar. Nothing is totally safe but smelly pussy is a big turn off for me and I want nothing to do with her. Big percentage of Girls I have met in Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, China among other places do not have pussy smell. Some have musky smell which I attribute to condom, sweat smell.

Member #4698
05-10-18, 02:22
Great reportage Blanquiceleste. Your posts have brought back fond memories of my last side trip.

Loco on 139 was the 1st bar I went to on my 1st night back in town after a local dinner. It was around 8:30 pm. As you described, Loco is a small bar and it seemed to me to be primarily set up as a clubhouse for the owner and his friends, who while I was there, were monopolizing the best girls in the bar. I sat down at a table along the wall and as I said, there were a couple of nice looking girls in the bar, but the nicest one, the only one, really, I would have been interested in getting to know, was already taken by one of the owner's friends. I selected the 3rd best looking girl in the bar who was only ok looking, IMHO, but had a decent body and a nice smile. Through her I ordered a coke light, but the order got mixed up and she brought me a Jack coke by mistake. I sent the drink back and the girl changed the bill with no muss or fuss. I gave her a small tip for her trouble / confusion and after a while I asked her to join me. So, I bought her a drink and she stood close with my arm around her while we talked a little and I made a few jokes. But the girl was not good enough to derail my plans for the evening, so I paid the tab and left.

I suppose on another night the good looking one would have been available and things might have ended up different, but I didn't care because eventually I made it over to Rose Bar where I ran into 2 sisters and they occupied my time 3 nights in a row. In fact, it was the younger Rose Bar sister who turned out to be my #1 new girl of the trip beating out super strong competition from a few new BKK girls (Kings Castle & Twister), 3 amazing new Jakarta girls (Alexis & Malio Club), and a couple of new Pinays (Cotton Club & Burgos St.). Phnom Penh can be that way sometimes. It is a funky and off beat town, but the girls can be simply amazing at times.

I was planning to go back to Cambodia this year, but then I heard from the older sister that her younger sister had quit the business and gone back home. I am not 100% sure this is true, but it is understandable if it is true. Younger sister burned too bright and so she burned out too fast had no staying power. I wish her well and hope she is happy wherever she is.

So, I am doing a visa run to Yangon this year. I don't think Yangon will be even half as good as Phnom girly wise, but I have never shagged a Burmese girl so, I got to try. 555! I will let you guys know how I make out. I am staying at Park Royal Hotel for only one reason; they have a well-known FL pick up bar in the hotel called Club 5. I wonder how it will compare to Darling Darling? LOL. And then there is a famous or infamous darkly lit palace of a FL pick up bar called the Emperor a few blocks away. So one way or another, I know I am going to have a good time in Yangon even as I miss Phnom a little bit. Next year I will go back to Khmerland! Definitely.

Stay thirsty,

NB.

Blanquiceleste
05-10-18, 13:42
Great reportage Blanquiceleste. Your posts have brought back fond memories of my last side trip.

SNIP

So, I am doing a visa run to Yangon this year. I don't think Yangon will be even half as good as Phnom girly wise, but I have never shagged a Burmese girl so, I got to try. 555! I will let you guys know how I make out. I am staying at Park Royal Hotel for only one reason; they have a well-known FL pick up bar in the hotel called Club 5. I wonder how it will compare to Darling Darling? Thank you for the appreciation Natty.

Speaking of Burma, I must get my ass around to Yangon for a short weekend this year. Never been there. A shame.

Blanquiceleste
05-10-18, 13:43
If her pussy stinks it is possible she is carrying the same germs in her mouth, throat and tonsils. So generally better to avoid BBBJ. I generally do finger and smell test on every girl I am interested. I have been known to send them away even after paying the bar. Nothing is totally safe but smelly pussy is a big turn off for me and I want nothing to do with her. Big percentage of Girls I have met in Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, China among other places do not have pussy smell. Some have musky smell which I attribute to condom, sweat smell.It has been a full week since she gave me a BBBJ and till now I have not experienced any symptoms of any infection. Touchwood.

But I will keep this advice in mind. Thanks you.

Franga
05-10-18, 15:02
It has been a full week since she gave me a BBBJ and till now I have not experienced any symptoms of any infection. Touchwood.

But I will keep this advice in mind. Thanks you.I took a BBBJ from a hooker in Phnom Penh one evening. The next morning when I woke up the gonorrhea was already waiting for me. I am sure you are in the clear by now.

Blanquiceleste
05-10-18, 17:44
I took a BBBJ from a hooker in Phnom Penh one evening. The next morning when I woke up the gonorrhea was already waiting for me. I am sure you are in the clear by now.Now that is a fuckin relief, ain't it!

I can go and happily bang the Indo cutie I have lined up for this weekend in SG.

Nazgylg15
05-16-18, 21:52
Thank you for the appreciation Natty.

Speaking of Burma, I must get my ass around to Yangon for a short weekend this year. Never been there. A shame.Burma is really a wonderful country but things are more difficult outside Yangon for getting WG's. The Burmese women are sweet and relatively less spoilt than their Thai or Asian sisters. Emperor club is the place to be at Yangon. Plenty of girls (almost 1:10) but the club is very dark and quality varies. Emperor is more like Darling Darling (not cost or quality wise) where almost everyone is available and there is no pressure of lady drinks. From reading the forum, it seems HIV is also quite high in Yangon (debatable).

SexInStl
05-21-18, 10:14
Looking to take a flight to Phenom Penh in a week or two for the passport stamp, and I'm starting to put together my plans. Looking at staying around the 130/136 street area.

I'm so spoiled by Bangkok and the variety of ways to pick up girls, AND the variety of girls. Somebody please tell me the Bar Girl scene is decent.

I'm not super picky. I LIKE 1500 Baht ($46 US) BKK SW's sometimes.

Any help would be appreciated.

Mr Enternational
05-21-18, 10:57
Any help would be appreciated.What kind of help are you looking for? All you need to know has been posted here in the last couple of months.

Global Citizen
05-22-18, 12:29
Just a quick quesion: Is "Happy" food still available in PP?

Thanks in advance.

GC.

Trevor2522
05-22-18, 15:21
Has anyone tried approaching, possibly with a Viet-speaking assistant or driver, the Vietnamese communities of Phnom Penh, in search of adult sex workers? Such groups, although long-established, are still marginalised by the Khmer government and thus in need of extra income. Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.

Mr Enternational
05-22-18, 15:49
Has anyone tried approaching, possibly with a Viet-speaking assistant or driver, the Vietnamese communities of Phnom Penh, in search of adult sex workers? Such groups, although long-established, are still marginalised by the Khmer government and thus in need of extra income. Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.Long time ago there were Vietnamese chicks in Martini when it was open. The first Vietnamese chick that I fucked was at a fuck house in Siem Reap for $20. You can always try there.

SouthEaster
05-22-18, 19:11
Not very many Viet establishments any more and the ones that exist are not that interested in foreigners showing up because they prefer to remain under the radar. As you mention they are subject to discrimination by the government and many have been booted or left of their own volition. The only joint I know of (vaguely) is called Golden Vine I think on 110 or thereabouts. It used to be stocked with Vietnamese but I haven't bee there in a few years. BTW, if you live there shouldn't you be telling US where they are?

SE.

Banana Boi
05-22-18, 23:01
.

I'm not super picky. I LIKE 1500 Baht ($46 US) BKK SW's sometimes.46 USD will more or less get you any girl in PP other than one who works at Darling Darling.

The bars can be fun. There are lots of them in a small concentrated area. You can't compare PP to Thailand. It's a fraction of the size and number of girls.

Imo a top Thai girl is far superior to a top khmer girl lookswise. This is where your being not picky will be a great advantage. Pp is worth a visit at least once if you need to make a visa run.

Blanquiceleste
05-23-18, 01:14
Not very many Viet establishments any more and the ones that exist are not that interested in foreigners showing up because they prefer to remain under the radar. As you mention they are subject to discrimination by the government and many have been booted or left of their own volition. The only joint I know of (vaguely) is called Golden Vine I think on 110 or thereabouts. It used to be stocked with Vietnamese but I haven't bee there in a few years. BTW, if you live there shouldn't you be telling US where they are?

SE.In one of my previous reports I mentioned that I followed some lead and headed to Golden Vine. That place is a dump. Don't bother. There are a couple of bars next door, I peeked into those as well. Nothing to see.

Tercar 66
05-23-18, 12:40
Hi guys,

I will be visiting Phnom Penh next week and staying at the Garden City Hotel. I believe that is far from the bar street riverside. Are there any pick up bars or nightclubs or massages with extras near the hotel. If going to Riverside for action is the only option then how much will a tuk tuk cost me. Is also the hotel girl friendly.

I will also be staying for a couple of days at the white mansion, I would appreciate similar info for that too.

Thanks.

Franga
05-23-18, 19:19
Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.There are always two or three viets mixed in with the Khmers at Massa on Street 252. They even give them a red number badge whereas the Khmers get a blue one. Remember it's $7 for the house and offer $25 to the chick. If you don't bargain then the house will want $15 and the chick from $40 to $80, which is a complete ripoff but naive punters have paid this, so beware.

Banana Boi
05-24-18, 05:06
There are always two or three viets mixed in with the Khmers at Massa on Street 252. I still never went to 'Massa'. Are the Viets usually young and, if so, half decent looking?

Franga
05-24-18, 08:39
I still never went to 'Massa'. Are the Viets usually young and, if so, half decent looking?I would say they are "moderate" in looks. One small chick I took told me that she was 22 yrs old, but then another member with good intell told me she was actually over 30. There are usually better looking Khmers so I generally take one of them instead.

BTW the chicks now no longer use the upstairs rooms, but will take you downstairs and out the door to the adjoining guesthouse. The rooms there are normal guesthouse rooms. But there is no extra charge for these rooms.

Meo Den
05-24-18, 16:52
BTW the chicks now no longer use the upstairs rooms, but will take you downstairs and out the door to the adjoining guesthouse. The rooms there are normal guesthouse rooms. But there is no extra charge for these rooms.Franga's information is good but to update it, they are back to working as before, so use massage rooms upstairs for FS with no need to go outside. Prices still $7 + $25 (or what you negotiate).

But as to Viets, I haven't seen any on recent visits. One or two may claim 'mixed race' or may be ethnic Khmers from Vietnam. They don't look like Vietnamese.

This can of course change from day to day. Quality has been poor this year. I have a hunch that you might have more luck after 6 pm. I often visit Sonoma Oyster Bar near Bassac Lane for their $1 Vietnamese oysters (20% discount between 4 pm and 6 pm) before heading over.

http://www.sonomaoyster.com/index.html

Enjoy!

Sam Sanuk
05-26-18, 05:08
Hi guys,

I will be visiting Phnom Penh next week and staying at the Garden City Hotel. I believe that is far from the bar street riverside. Are there any pick up bars or nightclubs or massages with extras near the hotel. If going to Riverside for action is the only option then how much will a tuk tuk cost me. Is also the hotel girl friendly.

I will also be staying for a couple of days at the white mansion, I would appreciate similar info for that too.

Thanks.Lots of hotels and guest houses in PP. I suggest that you email each to see what their policy is regarding bringing guests to your room. That is my M. O. And it works. Garden City is quite far from the bars, clubs, discos. Probably 12-15 km from the riverside bars. I'm just guessing a $7-$10 tuk tuk fare. White Mansion is on the edge of what I think most would consider ground zero for my idea of Sanuk. For $1 tuk tuk. A quick ride up Street 51 to Pontoon and Heart of Darkness and a few hostess bars. From there, maybe another $1 ride to the streets that have the most hostess bars.

Have fun and don't be afraid to share your adventures here.

SS.

Pinche Gringo
05-31-18, 23:43
Will be traveling to PP soon. Was wondering if any of you have been to any of the new hostess bars in the city? I am wondering if the talent is being spread thin?

Blanquiceleste
06-01-18, 13:36
Will be traveling to PP soon. Was wondering if any of you have been to any of the new hostess bars in the city? I am wondering if the talent is being spread thin?Which new hostess bars are you referring to specifically? Can you name the bars and their location? I was there just at the end of April and all the bargirl talent was concentrated around 136,130 and 104. Maybe 110 and 51 if you want some more variety.

Peter20
06-02-18, 00:43
Does anyone know if or when Soroya Mall reopens?

Forever69
06-02-18, 07:17
Does anyone know if or when Soroya Mall reopens?It did. 7.

Rick Rock
06-02-18, 15:45
Has anyone tried approaching, possibly with a Viet-speaking assistant or driver, the Vietnamese communities of Phnom Penh, in search of adult sex workers? Such groups, although long-established, are still marginalised by the Khmer government and thus in need of extra income. Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.Vietnamese beauties really have no reason to go to Phnom Penh when they have options like Saigon, Kuala Lumpur or. HCMC.

A few places staff Viets still to this day:

Golden Vine bar on Street 108.

City Bar on Street 110.

Ben's Bar on Street 110.

Tanabata on Street 63 is Viets only.

Mao's on 106.

At least three of the fish bowl massages including the "massa" place on 252 often mentioned have Viets. So do many of the super cheap boom boom massages on the ring road.

There are also Vietnamese karoke joints on Street 15, Street 136 and others, but they don't take kindly to people who can't at least speak Tieng Viet.

Luckily there are plenty of Khmer beauties in Cambodia. Millions in fact.

Blanquiceleste
06-02-18, 18:24
Vietnamese beauties really have no reason to go to Phnom Penh when they have options like Saigon, Kuala Lumpur or. HCMCAren't Saigon and HCMC the same place?


A few places staff Viets still to this day:

Golden Vine bar on Street 108.
City Bar on Street 110.
Ben's Bar on Street 110.
Tanabata on Street 63 is Viets only.
Mao's on 106.

At least three of the fish bowl massages including the "massa" place on 252 often mentioned have Viets. So do many of the super cheap boom boom massages on the ring road.
There are also Vietnamese karoke joints on Street 15, Street 136 and others, but they don't take kindly to people who can't at least speak Tieng Viet.No offense meant but when was the last time you were on ground? I can confirm from my last trip in April that Golden Vine, City Bar and Ben's have NO Viet girls. I have never been to Tanabata or Mao's, thank you for the intel.

Fishbowl massage shops are not my cuppa tea, so I will pass that one.

Also, I have never seen a Karaoke joint on 136, unless you are referring to places that are further to the west, away from the riverside. Would be keen to explore.


Luckily there are plenty of Khmer beauties in Cambodia. Millions in fact.God bless them for that. Love the cuties.

Rufuss818
06-04-18, 20:28
I don't think I've ever seen a bar where it was all milfs. Just wondering if you guys knew of an area or bar where you can find them. Would GSM be a viable spot?

UsaInEurope
06-07-18, 08:44
Hi: Looking for a hotel that doesn't have security / front desk people / doormen looking every time I come in and out. Really makes it uncomfortable for me. Suggestions? Should I just get an airbnb instead?

Run Mann
06-07-18, 12:55
Hi: Looking for a hotel that doesn't have security / front desk people / doormen looking every time I come in and out. Really makes it uncomfortable for me. Suggestions? Should I just get an airbnb instead?Security and front desk people know what you and most everyone else is doing so relax those people are there help not judge you.

Shadow6491
06-08-18, 09:00
No offense meant but when was the last time you were on ground? I can confirm from my last trip in April that Golden Vine, City Bar and Ben's have NO Viet girls. I have never been to Tanabata or Mao's, thank you for the intel.

Fishbowl massage shops are not my cuppa tea, so I will pass that one.

Also, I have never seen a Karaoke joint on 136, unless you are referring to places that are further to the west, away from the riverside. Would be keen to explore.

Mate there are definitely Viet girls in Golden Vine I have known the owner there for 18 years and some of the girls there are good friends that have been there for about 8 years and more. Also quite a few Viet Karaoke places on 130 and 136

ItIsMe83
06-08-18, 11:27
Just a quick report. Did stay again at Sun&Moon despite wanting to try something new. They do insist on telling you they charge a 10 $ fee per guest. But even tho registering a few girls on checkout there was no sign of it again on bill. Last time this was the same. No idea why. Maybe the guard at night registering guests doesn't bother. You could even give a fake room number anyway. No check done.

If you don't want the reception asking you to register the guest- before 10/11 nobody bothers asking you anyway.

For those wanting 'new' girls (with zero English) that are completely new to it all: the bar on 136 with two levels (where you can sit on 2 d floor) have 'many'of them and they are lovely altho obv. Shy as. But if you hit the right note with them and can make some sort of connection it can be fun times. Nice place anyway with lovely staff. Also the cutest cashier who unfortunately as the only one in this place can't be 'taken'. Very intelligent Uni student.

Oh the reception girls at Sun&M told me they are planning to build a high-rise new S&M hotel close to the bridge. Planning is underway but they are awaiting elections which are next month as apparently this can have a big effect on the economy / tourism etc.

Oh and there is now a new mega mall. Aeon 2. It's '30 minute' outside the main bar area so not the most convenient for visitors however it is beautiful. It's funny seeing some of the visitors. Many of them apparently never seen a escalator and were too scared to get on it: the Great pick-up place for day-game I imagine and fun to take a girl. Much more vibrant then the original Aeon 1.

Rufuss818
06-09-18, 13:52
I know its a new place, new building. But I kinda of like the old one. I like the sleaziness and the mature women who were there. I'm wondering if those girls are still there or is it cleaned up?

Rufuss818
06-09-18, 20:27
I want to really see everything. I love the sleaziness of the nightlife. I guess its a fetish of mine. I heard about svay pak but heard its closed to all foreigners. Are there places or areas in PP where you have ventured to and thought Jesus I wouldn't want to come here again?

Blanquiceleste
06-10-18, 04:33
Mate there are definitely Viet girls in Golden Vine I have known the owner there for 18 years and some of the girls there are good friends that have been there for about 8 years and more. Also quite a few Viet Karaoke places on 130 and 136I am simply recounting my experience. Unless the Viet girls were really ugly and I simply did not cast more than a fleeting glance, there were none there at the time I visited.

Could you please share the coordinates of these Karaoke joints on 130 and 136 please? PM me if you would like some discretion.

Nazgylg15
06-15-18, 10:28
I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly.

Rose bar: I had picked two girls from here. One on the first day. She said she was around 25 and had a great body. Stayed till 11 am. Was wonderful company and two slices of beef steak I got her for dinner must have had something to do with it. She was really hungry and almost finished the first serving before my food was served. 70 $ LT and 35 $ dinner. I went looking for her on third day but could not find her and but picked a girl with nice tits and half of her ass was popping out of her tiny trousers. Oh man, lot of cat calls from tuk tuk drivers. The hotel receptionist were not very happy. $70 for stay till 2 am. No dinner for her as I spent most time feasting on her. She had a bit of attitude and bit of bad breadth. Another great night.

Dragon fly bar: This bar was my second choice. On street 130 next to 136 corner bar. It had almost half of dozen girls that can be picked up. I picked up a girl who I thought was beautiful and a great smile. We just clicked. Spent couple of wonderful nights with her. 70 $ each night and couple of dinners.

Darlin Darlin: Went there on a Sunday. Decent crowd and lot of eye contact. I got along nicely with a bit of thick girl with great tits and ass. She was in no way fat or even.

Close to being one. May be a 7. I got her couple of glasses of wine. I played the game a bit different. I did not ask her to come with me but started to leave saying I wanted to spend some time in casino and later leave to hotel. She said she wanted to spend some time with me. I offered her $100. She countered with $150 but then accepted when I just started leaving. Mind you she knew there were couple of other girls eyeing me (my $). Another good night. 3 shots in little over an hour and she left around midnight. Very hurried but very co-operative. Strong bbj and I sneaked in a bit of anal action as well. She always had her hand or mouth around my dick to get it hard. No complains.

Apart from the above bars, I visited a lot of bars in 104,136,130,172,110,118 (- LOCA, aArforce, Yellow bar, Tokyo bar, Corner 136, Butterfly, Xanadu. No Cyrcee or Pontoon this time. Overall a good trip. I tried to get a new girl every day and when I didn't, I went back to one of the girls from previous night. My strategy with Darlin Darlin worked. I was able to get a girl with $100 . All my three bar girls were far superior to most girls in Darlin Darlin Darlin. Mind you I did visit a lot of bars. A couple of girls at the pool bar at Okay gave me an impression that they were up for it. They had seen my spending decent on my bar girls in dinner and drinks but I was not in that frame of mind to pick them up.

Sam Sanuk
06-15-18, 23:22
I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly..You seemed to have made maximum use of your 5 days! Good work! I like your wage scale and the mixture of sweet girls and [Deleted by Admin]. LOL I've been yearning for my return trip to PP from the time I was departing the PP airport last time.

Thanks for your report.

SS.

Blanquiceleste
06-16-18, 10:40
I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly.

Rose bar

Dragon fly bar

Darlin Darlin.................I offered her $100. She countered with $150 but then accepted when I just started leaving. Mind you she knew there were couple of other girls eyeing me (my $). Another good night. 3 shots in little over an hour and she left around midnight. Very hurried but very co-operative. Strong bbj and I sneaked in a bit of anal action as well. She always had her hand or mouth around my dick to get it hard. No complains.
My strategy with Darlin Darlin worked. I was able to get a girl with $100 .

A couple of girls at the pool bar at Okay gave me an impression that they were up for it. They had seen my spending decent on my bar girls in dinner and drinks but I was not in that frame of mind to pick them up.Great report mate. Thanks.

Good to see you had luck at Rose Bar. Something has definitely changed up there, and for the good. Never tried Dragonfly before. Will make a note for my next visit, however, we all know things can change by then.

At DD the norm is $100. So you paid the on-par price. But what you got in return seems to be a real bargain. Most girls at DD want to scoot after you drop a load.

The girls at the pool bar, were they employed by the hotel? I cannot imagine FLs hanging out by a pool bar inside a hotel like Okay Boutique.

Nazgylg15
06-17-18, 10:35
Great report mate. Thanks.

Good to see you had luck at Rose Bar. Something has definitely changed up there, and for the good. Never tried Dragonfly before. Will make a note for my next visit, however, we all know things can change by then.

At DD the norm is $100. So you paid the on-par price. But what you got in return seems to be a real bargain. Most girls at DD want to scoot after you drop a load.

The girls at the pool bar, were they employed by the hotel? I cannot imagine FLs hanging out by a pool bar inside a hotel like Okay Boutique.For Darling Darling girl, she asked for $100ST and I wanted that price LT. In the end I think both of us compromised a bit but got what we wanted. So win, win.

The girls at the bar were waitress and cashier cum waitress. Generally taking the hotel waitress / maids is NO NO for me as it puts them in danger of job loss and other consequences. But they did look very tempting and lots of eye contact and smiles. May be they were just encouraging me to spend more time in bar and buy drinks and I was thinking too much with my dick. Anyway was fun.

NormanBrightside
06-19-18, 05:00
Hi,

Does anyone know whether the Palace Gate hire is guest friendly? There is no information either way in taker website and thus far I haven't got a response to an email I sent.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Norman.

Blanquiceleste
06-19-18, 13:51
Hi,

Does anyone know whether the Palace Gate hire is guest friendly? There is no information either way in taker website and thus far I haven't got a response to an email I sent.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Norman.Unless specifically stated, all hotels in PP are guest friendly. Don't worry too much, just walk in confidently.

NormanBrightside
06-19-18, 15:54
Thanks buddy. There's a bit of talk here about non girl friendly hotels so I wanted to double check. But I'm used to the walk of shame in Dubai so I'm sure it will be fine😀.


Unless specifically stated, all hotels in PP are guest friendly. Don't worry too much, just walk in confidently.

Blanquiceleste
06-19-18, 16:14
Thanks buddy. There's a bit of talk here about non girl friendly hotels so I wanted to double check. But I'm used to the walk of shame in Dubai so I'm sure it will be fine😀.Cool. Just one observation though. If you are head to PP for mongering (which I presume you are), then this hotel may not be your best choice from a location and convenience perspective. Unless you are focused on picking up chicks from Darlin Darlina and Epic. A a bit of a ride to the sleaze streets like 136 or 130 or further. Even more to places like Pontoon.

NormanBrightside
06-19-18, 16:47
No I'm here on business but have some free time in the evening. Which is why I was a little worried. So much appreciation for your advice so I will post on my experiences. Thanks again.


Unless specifically stated, all hotels in PP are guest friendly. Don't worry too much, just walk in confidently.


Cool. Just one observation though. If you are head to PP for mongering (which I presume you are), then this hotel may not be your best choice from a location and convenience perspective. Unless you are focused on picking up chicks from Darlin Darlina and Epic. A a bit of a ride to the sleaze streets like 136 or 130 or further. Even more to places like Pontoon.

FairFromJerz
06-20-18, 18:22
Gents,

Anywhere near 136 where I could get a couple vitamins to help in my longevity?

Blanquiceleste
06-21-18, 02:06
Gents,

Anywhere near 136 where I could get a couple vitamins to help in my longevity?On 136 if you walk west away from the riverside, you will encounter a rash of pharmacy stores around 500 m down that road. You will find your stuff, no prescriptions needed.

Sam Sanuk
06-21-18, 02:12
On 136 if you walk west away from the riverside, you will encounter a rash of pharmacy stores around 500 m down that road. You will find your stuff, no prescriptions needed.And about 100 m on 136 from the riverside there is a small convenience store (similar to 7-11) that has a very complete selection of the same type of "vitamin"located at the check out. The different brands are displayed much like packs of gum so easy to read the labels. I think the name of the store is "Neil's" and might be next door to the "69 bar".

FairFromJerz
06-21-18, 03:07
On 136 if you walk west away from the riverside, you will encounter a rash of pharmacy stores around 500 m down that road. You will find your stuff, no prescriptions needed.Blanquiceleste, thank you for the info! I know exactly where you are talking about! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

Banana Boi
06-21-18, 06:58
And about 100 m on 136 from the riverside there is a small convenience store (similar to 7-11) that has a very complete selection of the same type of "vitamin"located at the check out. The different brands are displayed much like packs of gum so easy to read the labels. I think the name of the store is "Neil's" and might be next door to the "69 bar".Sam is referring to the store directly across from Lux Riverside hotel. V and C are located right at the cash register.

Blanquiceleste
06-21-18, 10:23
And about 100 m on 136 from the riverside there is a small convenience store (similar to 7-11) that has a very complete selection of the same type of "vitamin"located at the check out. The different brands are displayed much like packs of gum so easy to read the labels. I think the name of the store is "Neil's" and might be next door to the "69 bar".That is good to know. Never needed any supplements till date, but good information for future reference. I have bought stuff like ice, beer, chips, soft drinks, etc from Neil's but never once noticed that they sell "vitamins".

Thanks.

Peter20
06-24-18, 12:49
I know its a new place, new building. But I kinda of like the old one. I like the sleaziness and the mature women who were there. I'm wondering if those girls are still there or is it cleaned up?I was there last week. They made the place huge with a lot of small bar blocks inside. I think 90% is not occupied so it's a boring place now. No more pool tables and TV screens. Just a few FL girl at the bars on the street side.

Tercar 66
06-25-18, 13:50
I visited Phnom Pneh last week after 3 years. It is still the same story on 136 street or 140 street. If someone wants to pay 3.5 usd just for chit chat or pay for company to play pool. There are massages, the ones with Uniform will not entertain extras. I went to a massage near the 136 street where it was mentioned usd 3 for casual massage. Before entering I told offered her 5 USD for HJ and she agreed.

Having said there the best place to pick up is at Darlin Darlin at Naga hotel with good music and more than 30 to 40 very beautiful girls. The second place I recommend is Sharkys, they too have some good choices. If you plan to go to Ho Chi Minh by bus, I suggest Mekong express, they have good bus service with just 20 USD approx. Cost and they will do all your visa process if you have the original visa letter for Vietnam.

Finkel60
06-27-18, 09:33
I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly.

Rose bar: I had picked two girls from here. One on the first day. She said she was around 25 and had a great body. Stayed till 11 am. Was wonderful company and two slices of beef steak I got her for dinner must have had something to do with it. She was really hungry and almost finished the first serving before my food was served. 70 $ LT and 35 $ dinner. I went looking for her on third day but could not find her and but picked a girl with nice tits and half of her ass was popping out of her tiny trousers. Oh man, lot of cat calls from tuk tuk drivers. The hotel receptionist were not very happy. $70 for stay till 2 am. No dinner for her as I spent most time feasting on her. She had a bit of attitude and bit of bad breadth. Another great night..I have been doing Cambodia since 2001 and I must say that the monger or visitor paying more than 50 dollar for fuck is completely idiots, believe me I live in PP and if you know how shit the girls talk about stupid Barangs pay a fortune for dirty pussies. 100 dollar + barfine and some idiots money just for talk or pool is far more expensive than Europe or the states, it people like you idiot who pay this money and then write about it her that destroy for everybody, even the girls!

Fast Eddie 48
06-28-18, 02:11
I visited Phnom Pneh last week after 3 years. It is still the same story on 136 street or 140 street. If someone wants to pay 3.5 usd just for chit chat or pay for company to play pool. There are massages, the ones with Uniform will not entertain extras. I went to a massage near the 136 street where it was mentioned usd 3 for casual massage. Before entering I told offered her 5 USD for HJ and she agreed.

Having said there the best place to pick up is at Darlin Darlin at Naga hotel with good music and more than 30 to 40 very beautiful girls. The second place I recommend is Sharkys, they too have some good choices. If you plan to go to Ho Chi Minh by bus, I suggest Mekong express, they have good bus service with just 20 USD approx. Cost and they will do all your visa process if you have the original visa letter for Vietnam.To Tercar.

How much they charge for viet visa process if you don't have the Vietnam visa letter how much extra is that.

Fast Eddie 48.

Blanquiceleste
06-30-18, 09:56
I have been doing Cambodia since 2001 and I must say that the monger or visitor paying more than 50 dollar for fuck is completely idiots, believe me I live in PP and if you know how shit the girls talk about stupid Barangs pay a fortune for dirty pussies. 100 dollar + barfine and some idiots money just for talk or pool is far more expensive than Europe or the states, it people like you idiot who pay this money and then write about it her that destroy for everybody, even the girls!Here comes another self-appointed price policeman. 6 posts to his credit, nearly all of them complaining about prices. Not one report to his credit. And he comes out to abuse another BM who is taking effort to write a report. Do we really need such pricks on these threads?

I bet this guy won't even get an entry to Darlin Darlin, let alone pick a girl from there. What a wanker.

Fast Eddie 48
06-30-18, 21:58
Here comes another self-appointed price policeman. 6 posts to his credit, nearly all of them complaining about prices. Not one report to his credit. And he comes out to abuse another BM who is taking effort to write a report. Do we really need such pricks on these threads?

I bet this guy won't even get an entry to Darlin Darlin, let alone pick a girl from there. What a wanker.To Blanquiceleste.

I think Mr Finkel mean he have not been back to PP since 2001 my first trip here is back in 2002 you can get young Viet girls at brothel all over the city for 5 usd, everything have gone up all over SEA since then so live with it.

Fast Eddie 48.

Blanquiceleste
07-01-18, 04:59
To Blanquiceleste.

I think Mr Finkel mean he have not been back to PP since 2001 my first trip here is back in 2002 you can get young Viet girls at brothel all over the city for 5 usd, everything have gone up all over SEA since then so live with it.

Fast Eddie 48.That may be true, but no one is interested in what happened 10,15, 20 years ago. What people are interested in is what is happening now.

Sure, if you are a resident, there are some advantages you can enjoy over 1 week tourists, like.

1. You probably speak the language.

2. You have no time pressure to pick a girl. If not today, tomorrow, else day after and so on.

3. You have already built up a list of viable options.

4. People in town get to know you and that can have some benefits (or not depending on the reputation you build).

That said, I want to see if anyone walk into Darlin Darlin and pick a girl for under $100. You may argue the girls are not worth that price, that is another subject.

KingAmongKings
07-04-18, 19:33
Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?

Also, to any suggestions on the best way to go to Angkor is bus, tuk tuk, etc.

Sam Sanuk
07-05-18, 09:32
Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?

Also, to any suggestions on the best way to go to Angkor is bus, tuk tuk, etc.I don't know if you've ever arrived at the Phnom Penh airport from another country. But the best way to describe the entry process involving the visa on arrival is a bit chaotic and inefficient in my opinion. The last 2 times I've arrived internationally, I have used the online visa service on the official government site. It costs a few dollar more, but worth it (again, in my opinion). You go straight to the desks where passports are stamped in. Get your checked bag. And go. You bypass all of the crowd still waiting for their visa on arrival when you exit the hall. Just make doubly sure you are using the Official government visa website, as there are a number of services / re-sellers of the same visa. I got my online visas by email within 24 hours; printed them out; and presented them to immigration with my passport and landing card.

My Cambodian friends who travel between PP and SR usually take a "VIP" mini-van. It's faster than the bus and only about $10 US. I've never gone overland. Only flown between the 2 places. Tuk tuk? LOL Even if I could get a driver to do that trip, you couldn't pay me enough to do that. Consider the potential of a serious accident, the snail's pace, heat, and grime. No thank you. Ha ha ha.

Sam.

DzikaBomba
07-05-18, 10:14
Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?

Also, to any suggestions on the best way to go to Angkor is bus, tuk tuk, etc.The best way is to get the online Visa before. Less hassle and also cheaper and you don't have to stay on queue at the airport.

You can go by bus to Siem reap. The tuk tuk drivers will Catch you there.

(I hope this is acceptable for my first post).

KingAmongKings
07-05-18, 19:52
Yeah I was thinking about flying given I have limited time. Aslo, I noticed Sihanoukville and Siem reap don't have maps on here like Phnom Penh. If anyone has one to share that would be awesome. Looking at the Sihanoukville thread, it seems to be dead there. But the beach sounds attractive. Anyways looking forward to my trip and potentially partying with some fellow mongers. See why'all soon enough.


I don't know if you've ever arrived at the Phnom Penh airport from another country. But the best way to describe the entry process involving the visa on arrival is a bit chaotic and inefficient in my opinion. The last 2 times I've arrived internationally, I have used the online visa service on the official government site. It costs a few dollar more, but worth it (again, in my opinion). You go straight to the desks where passports are stamped in. Get your checked bag. And go. You bypass all of the crowd still waiting for their visa on arrival when you exit the hall. Just make doubly sure you are using the Official government visa website, as there are a number of services / re-sellers of the same visa. I got my online visas by email within 24 hours; printed them out; and presented them to immigration with my passport and landing card.

My Cambodian friends who travel between PP and SR usually take a "VIP" mini-van. It's faster than the bus and only about $10 US. I've never gone overland. Only flown between the 2 places. Tuk tuk? LOL Even if I could get a driver to do that trip, you couldn't pay me enough to do that. Consider the potential of a serious accident, the snail's pace, heat, and grime. No thank you. Ha ha ha.

Sam.

KingAmongKings
07-05-18, 20:08
Awesome. Will do the online Visa. Is happy pizza / happy food as prevalent in siem reap / sihanoukville as Phnom Penh?


The best way is to get the online Visa before. Less hassle and also cheaper and you don't have to stay on queue at the airport.

You can go by bus to Siem reap. The tuk tuk drivers will Catch you there.

(I hope this is acceptable for my first post).

Xpartan
07-06-18, 03:06
Guys, do not waste your precious time on ground transportation. A flight is less than 1 hour, and yes, Bangkok Air can cost a lot, but check smaller airlines--Bassaka, Cambodia Airways, Cambodia Angkor Air, Cambodia Bayon Airlines, Sky Angkor, and I'm sure I've missed a few others. I flew there for $40-50 OW.

Blanquiceleste
07-06-18, 11:31
The best way is to get the online Visa before. Less hassle and also cheaper and you don't have to stay on queue at the airport.

You can go by bus to Siem reap. The tuk tuk drivers will Catch you there.

(I hope this is acceptable for my first post).Applying for a visa online costs $35. Getting a visa on arrival costs $30. So it is not cheaper, but definitely more convenient. Get a bus to SR.

Michelangelo
07-07-18, 04:39
Just visited PP one year after my last visit. Bad start. My favorite hotel is now closed (Bougainvillier) - building is for rent. Less beggars in the streets than last year, but more motorbike drivers and tuk-tuk drivers harassing you as you walk around. One evening I made a 1 km walk on the quay and was asked 29 times! OK, you can ignore them, but it is a real pain.

Coffee shops all over the place now, with Starbucks, Amazon, Gloria Jeans, Boss and dozens of small independent outfits. That is on the positive side. Hooters apparently has given up and will not open.

Many new bars on street 130 and a few new ones in the little side streets. 136 not very busy, same for 104. Nice, but girls have turned into drink sluts and pressure to buy drinks has increased to a level which makes it unpleasant, especially if you walk into a bar on your own. Bar fining is not a problem. Prices negotiable but 30 $ for ST and 50 $ LT still applicable (of course, in one of the bars a first time Japanese visitor was quoted 50 $ ST and he went for it without discussion). Many girls willing to go, but performance is lousy. Picked a nice one from a small bar in a side street of 136. Very GF in the bar with a shy attitude. Once in the room she would not take off her cloth without turning off the light, shower alone and hide under the bed cover with a towel! Any attempt to remove the towel would generate a scream! Finally managed to have her naked on the bed, but I got fed up with it, threw her cloths at her and kicked her out. Wasted barfine! It was late already, but could not end the evening without getting laid properly, so went straight to Cyrcee and took 2 nice ones to the hotel next door. No fuss, straight to business and a great attitude of both girls in a perfect threeseome.

Will not waste any time in the bars anymore next time, unless I want to go for drinks.

NewImage
07-07-18, 05:20
Just visited PP one year after my last visit. Bad start. My favorite hotel is now closed (Bougainvillier) - building is for rent. Less beggars in the streets than last year, but more motorbike drivers and tuk-tuk drivers harassing you as you walk around. One evening I made a 1 km walk on the quay and was asked 29 times! OK, you can ignore them, but it is a real pain.
Coffee shops all over the place now, with Starbucks, Amazon, Gloria Jeans, Boss and dozens of small independent outfits. That is on the positive side. Hooters apparently has given up and will not open.
Will not waste any time in the bars anymore next time, unless I want to go for drinks.Performance down, scams up, WTF even Phil & now Malaysia. Playground is becoming a lottery and we know who odds are usually in favour of. Geezzzzzz.

Blanquiceleste
07-07-18, 12:17
Will not waste any time in the bars anymore next time, unless I want to go for drinks.


Performance down, scams up, WTF even Phil & now Malaysia. Playground is becoming a lottery and we know who odds are usually in favour of. Geezzzzzz.No offense meant, but once in a while it might be good to introspect and see if there is anything wrong you are doing as a monger. A short list of possibilities.

1. Are you giving off the wrong vibe?

2. Are you being cheap?

3. Are you groomed properly, do not smell or look unclean?

4 Are you being rude or high-handed with the wait staff and the bar girls?

5. Are you haggling over a few dollars? Remember you have more, the girls have less. I read Michelangelo's post where he quotes ST at $30 and LT at $50. I think this may be a tad less than expectations on the street.

6. Do you have unrealistic expectations in terms of performance? This is not an oily massage parlor in BKK.

7. Are you doing stuff to girls in your room that make them uncomfortable? Remember, words gets around quickly in these parts.

8. Are you staying in a really cheap dive of a hotel? This should not matter much though.

9. Do you treat the your date for the night well? Like feed them, etc.

10. Are you smiling enough?

Franga
07-07-18, 14:00
Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?
It's not a problem to get a visa on arrival at the airport. Takes about 5 minutes. Bring a photo. But be aware that if you give them $100 usd cash for the tourist visa they will try and scam you for $5 and only give you $65 change instead of $70. Just tell them to give you the extra $5, and they will give it back. This happened twice in a row to me so it is an obvious scam by the immigration officials.

Bubba999
07-10-18, 12:37
Popped into Honeypot on Street 130 - always found this a good, well-run bar.

But a bit different last night as there was a european hostess working. Blonde girl prob mid 20's. She was with a customer and so I did not talk to her but one of the local girls said she was from Europe and spoke english.

Dunno. Maybe a backpacker who lost her way (or maybe lost her wallet! Will try to get back and have a chat but others might like to check her out and update us.

KingAmongKings
07-11-18, 13:50
Hey guys,

I wanted to play some Texas hold them in Phnom Penh. I found riverking and nagaworld. Wondering I anyone can give me info on the situations at these places. Pros and cons etc.

Thanks.

KingAmongKings
07-11-18, 16:04
I just got a noticed saying my evisa status is "skip" and that my processing has been postponed. Has anybody had this before?

Trafukin
07-12-18, 02:40
Hotels? Area? Ride from airport? Are there clubs as well as bars? Do we exchange money or use US dollars?

Blanquiceleste
07-12-18, 04:30
Popped into Honeypot on Street 130 - always found this a good, well-run bar.

But a bit different last night as there was a european hostess working. Blonde girl prob mid 20's. She was with a customer and so I did not talk to her but one of the local girls said she was from Europe and spoke english.

Dunno. Maybe a backpacker who lost her way (or maybe lost her wallet! Will try to get back and have a chat but others might like to check her out and update us.Some BM on the Bangkok, Thailand forum wrote about a fair skinned Cambodian girl who spoke impeccable English (with an OZ accent). Could be her? Matches the other parts of your description.

Keep the thread informed.

Blanquiceleste
07-12-18, 04:32
I just got a noticed saying my evisa status is "skip" and that my processing has been postponed. Has anybody had this before?This is a first! I think you should call the Embassy and ask them for details after a day or two if nothing moves. I would not take this lightly.

Blanquiceleste
07-12-18, 04:56
Hotels? Area? Ride from airport? Are there clubs as well as bars? Do we exchange money or use US dollars?Evidently you have not RTFF. But here goes, so more members will benefit.

Hotels: Assuming you want to stay close to the girly bar action. Depends on your budget too. Amanjaya Pancam is probably the only $100+ hotel in that vicinity. Next come hotels like Sun & Moon Urban and The Quay Boutique. These will be $70-$90 depending on what kind of rooms you want. After that you will find several in the $50 range. Lux Riverside is a tried and tested option. There is also Ohana Phnom Penh, Harmony, Panorama, etc. Run a search on Agoda / Booking / Hotels and you will get a sense of the place. All are Guest Friendly. There are other hotels too, but I have not stayed in them, so you can go by reviews on the internet.

Ride from airport: Take a state run taxi. $12 fixed price from airport to riverside. Follow the signs, it is not hard. Walk outside the airport and hail a tuk-tuk if you want to save $4-$5. If it is raining this will be a big hassle. There is an ride sharing app called PassApp. Works like Uber. A bit cheaper than the regular taxi.

Clubs: Of course there are clubs in Phnom Penh. Darlin Darlin at NagaWorld is the place to go if you want to pick up WGs. Best chicks in town, $100 for ST at your hotel. Then there is Epic, F-Club (in NagaWorld), Pontoon, Heart of Darkness, Eclipse Sky Bar, Club 88, Boss, V Club, Muse, Vito, Club Love, etc. Take your pick. YMMV.

Currency. US Dollars work just fine everywhere. You get return change less than a dollar in local currency. Keep that to pay tips at all places you visit. People expect to be tipped.

Now that you have taken, make sure you give back by writing a report after you visit.

Banana Boi
07-12-18, 05:34
Currency. US Dollars work just fine everywhere. Make sure yout USD or any other acceptable foreign currency is in very good to excellent condition or the bars and restaurants will not take them. I still remember one incident I had using a pretty good condition USD. The guy at the cashier said he can't accept it since it was wrinkled. I had to talk to the manager at length to accept my 50 USD. When they finaly accepted it the same cashier started handing me USD change in far worse condition that he would not accept just a few minutes earlier. I gave him an earful and he just laughed and reached in for crisp new bills.

I also still have a souvenir from Cambodia. A possible counterfeit 50 USD bill. I think this is what happened. Was at Bar 104. Handed them a good 50 USD I just took out of the ATM earlier in the night. They came back to me and asked it I had smaller bills since they didn't have change. I managed to find smaller change. They handed me 50 USD back. I didn't check it. I went home and took my money out of my pockets and immediately noticed the 50 USD from Bar 104 was either counterfeit or was an odd looking 50 USD bill. Management knows me at Bar 104 but I didn't go back to complain about it as I don't know who the culprit in the bar was. Chalked it up to a lesson learned and now I check all bills of value I receive in Asia.