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Verde99
07-09-07, 21:01
i read this two days ago and can't get it out of my mind.

"special condomns" page 26


more on the subject. appears the girls who work in the parks and brothels are the biggest victims.

http://www.alternatevisions.org/publications/cambodiarapereport.pdf

Elmerfud
07-10-07, 05:58
I read this two days ago and can't get it out of my mind.

"SPECIAL CONDOMNS" PAGE 26That report is completely insane, what a sick world we live in.

Verde99
07-10-07, 10:26
in response to a pm about my post, some clarification:

it was a reaction to the description of the use of condoms specifically designed to inflict vaginal damage on the victim. see page 20 for descript of "tiger fur" condoms coated with sand.

in the worst case, the resulting injuries can lead to serious medical complications due to infections not to mention the accompanying pain and suffering. in the not so worse case, such an attack can prevent the sw victim from working. medical complications can result in death. not working can result in death.

the article describes a culture of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and abuse of sws, which i expected to be disturbing enough. but i guess that i was taken aback by the crossing of the line from [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) to attempted murder.

i can personalize this when i think about the contact that i have with sws. and then i think about the contact and interaction i have with the police, pimps, brothel owners, and gangsters who may be the perpetrators.

it is not news to say that the world can be a rough place. but it is still sometimes difficult for me to absorb information like this and to reconcile the depravity of it especially with my proximity to it. but i guess my problems are not so dire.

it is also not my intention to create a thread for "humans doing bad things". i won’t shy away but i won’t wallow in it.

back to the business at hand.




i read this two days ago and can't get it out of my mind.

"special condomns" page 26

Retgilpo
07-11-07, 14:27
I stayed 4 days in Phnom Penh. One good thing is the cheap and good street restaurants. Second good thing is you can be there quick by airplane.

For the rest Phnom Penh was nothing for me. Hard to find nice hookers. Most are Vietnamese who think they are better then Cambodian hookers (we do blowjob Cambodian not, we have whiter skin) and a cute asks 40$ long time.

Cambodian hookers go to sleep at 10 PM. Vietnamese at 4 am! A lot of Phnom Penh hookers go work out of the city so the family does not know what they do. So best follow these nice friendly ladies to Sihanoukville (where also the temperature is much better, hotels much cheaper and finaly a lot of fierndly mamasan hookers ask only 15$).

Maybe if you are younger (max 37) and can speak local language (Khmer) then you can find a local jewel.

Along the river swetting you pay 2$ for a beer, siting at the beach in Sihanoukville you have a pint of beer for 50 dollarcents in a nice breaze.

That Asshole
07-14-07, 14:50
That report is completely insane, what a sick world we live in.Gentlemen,

If you have been shocked then that article has served it's purpose well. But do you always believe everything you read and hear?

1./Do you believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by "terrorists"?

2./ Do you believe that AIDS is actually an "illness"?

3./ Do you believe that smoking causes cancer?

If you do believe all those than you are like children.

Did you notice the name of the author? It is some "Carol" , - a woman. Did you notice who it was commissioned for? For USAID, a well known feminist "charitable" (charitable??) organisation. This organisation is run by people who in fact derive their income from the "charitable work" they do. The greater the shock, the greater the donations they receive (mostly from women). Especially if the story mentions "sex, abuse, evil men, etc".

These are the same people riding around Phnom Penh in Landcruisers and Lexus 4WD trucks. They receive 5 figure salaries, in dollars. Have a look at St. 240 and around in PP.

Please, be realistic. Couldn't we write a report to prove anything we want to prove? Even the total opposite as they did? Of course it could be done. If someone would pay me as much as they did get paid for it, I promise I will make a report just as long, just as convincing and full of "facts" that I gather - stating the exact opposite of it all.

Please be men and don't act like children. If you believe all that crap than legally you shouldn't be able to view this, because it's only for over 18's.

Killer condoms, my knee. Be real. It was written to shock and to raise more funds. Wake up, wake up. Are the feminists successful again in making us become total fools?

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Think, please think!

Rubber Nursey
07-14-07, 17:44
not true, that asshole. if that [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) report was written by 'feminists' (and by that, i assume you mean the anti-sex work radical feminists), then it would not use the words 'sex worker' or sex work' - they use the term 'prostituted women'. they also would not subscribe to a 'rights based' approach - feminazis believe the only rights sex workers have is the 'right' to be forcibly removed from the sex industry and rehabilitated.

this report was written by ngos, including a prostitutes collective. (i also know one of the reviewers listed, personally). if they were paid any money for it, it would have been a nominal amount in the form of a grant. and usaid is not a 'feminist charitable organisation' - it is a united states government department that distributes us aid funding. it's also the american president's master plan to force countries around the world to criminalise and/or abolish prostitution (hence the 'we don't support prostitution' disclaimer at the start of a report written, in part, by prostitutes). but that's a whole other rant.

the chances of these people getting any money - donations or otherwise - are slim to none. people do not give money to groups who want to help hookers work in the industry safely. usaid sure as hell won't - it's against us policy. people will only donate money to organisations who want to 'rescue' sex workers and 'retrain' them to be 'useful' members of society. they are the groups that women support in droves, because they think they're doing a good thing, saving the poor prostitutes from exploitation. (the other article mentioned below is a perfect example of feminazi propaganda with a primary aim of soliciting donations).

the people who wrote the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) report, however, have no reason to lie or embellish. they just want the story out there in the open, in the hope that someone will take it seriously and eventually, policy will change.

Correspondent
07-15-07, 10:42
* Sightseeing: Hopefully everyone who goes to Phnom Penh will take the time to see Tuol Sleng and the killing fields. I'the recommend paying the $5 for the guide at the killing fields since there isn't a lot of signage and you'll get more out of it. Think of it as two fewer drinks and supporting a good cause. Some of the other sites were nice to see, but nothing else is a must see.I've visited PP a dozen times and have never been to S21 or the k-fields.

So it's strange to read here that you are 'hoping' all tourists see both of these 'sights'. I never will.

On a side note, someone reported a few weeks ago how Martini's still has the same run of girls working there with very few fresh faces appearing. This remains true.
Kind of unfortunate as you witness the degeneration of these girls' faces and bodies over time.

If you stay away from Sharkey's long enough, it can be fun to go back there and see who is new. I occassionally get lucky and find a young cutie.
Some of the girls are great pool players but as always, most of them said goodbye to their youth many years ago.

With regards to all of the recent back-n-forth banter here on the PP board, perhaps it's time for Cambodia to have a 'News Board' and keep PP free for mongering/nightlife/eating info? Just a thought.

Prince Harry
07-15-07, 12:29
i'm afraid that "that arsehole" has shown his true colours and is indeed an arsehole.his lack of knowledge of the true situation in cambodia is obvious.i have spent quite some time in cambodia and i know that this report on gang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and abuses by the police,gangsters and the sons of influential people is all true.
that arsehole has always disturbed me by his lack of compassion and feelings for the cambodian people,they are not just there for our gratification but they are in fact human beings.
i have met several men in cambodia who believe that the cambodian people should never be lifted out of poverty and ignorance because that will lessen our opportunites for sexual abuse at bargain basement prices.
call me a bluff old traditionalist but i am firstly a human being and i resent people like that arsehole who have no humanity.

Tiger 888
07-15-07, 13:19
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That arsehole has always disturbed me by his lack of compassion and feelings for the cambodian people,they are not just there for our gratification but they are in fact human beings...Not only Cambodians but females in general are not acknowledged as human beings by him. This name is not a coincidence, but neither self-reflection I am afraid.

Barri
07-15-07, 23:33
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That arsehole has always disturbed me by his lack of compassion and feelings for the cambodian people,they are not just there for our gratification but they are in fact human beings.Yes, the asshole's ranting is as disturbing as the report itself.

Hutsori
07-16-07, 02:52
Can anyone out there confirm whether or not Billabong is GF or not? Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

To an extent it is, but it isn't set up as a place for the punters. It's a quiet place catering to couples and families, so exercise good judgment. I'd bring back a girl after midnight and have her out before 7 am, and I kept it low key. The front desk clerk didn't give me or the girls any hassle. Nice place w/ friendly staff. Rooms from $36 to $52.

Pure Logic
07-18-07, 08:49
Pure Logic Philosophy presents

That Asshole's Right

I recently read some of That Asshole's posts. He has many good ideas. ISG reports from all over the world tell the same story of increasing prices and decreasing quality. The market is shifting in favor of women. As women earn more and more money, they expect more and more money from men, as their values remain roughly the same (they continue to regard men as a source for material wealth). In the US, this has led to a large percentage of women who choose to remain single and those who are in a relationship often leave men sexually starved. This intensifies competition for the few available females.

See this Marketwatch article from Nov 11, 2006 (http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/survey-finds-percentage-first-time-home/story.aspx?guid={94A34A1B-6FCF-44B5-98D1-B8BB100ABCB3}) and note the trend. There are more than twice as many single females who buy homes as there are single males who do.

The reason why women's power is increasing is that they collaborate and work together while men senselessly compete against one another. Women's collaboration consists of capitalizing on their monopolistic powers in the sex market. They overwhelmingly agree that chastity is virtuous. They insist that sex be based on true love, and if there's any doubt would rather err on the side of avoiding sex just in case. Heaven forbid they sleep with a guy who's in it "just for the sex". Thus the demand for sex increases, allowing women to control men like puppets.

In the past, a kind of balance of power was achieved by not allowing women to work, making them financially dependent on men. If men had acted in unison, they would have bargained for greater openness towards sex for each incremental increase in women's employment, in order to maintain a balance of power. Now we're seeing our bargaining power erode.

Girls grow up seeing an insatiable demand for sex-filled media (pornography, Baywatch, MTV, and what not). Everyone else is so obsessed with sex! They want to be different. They think they're not that crazy about sex. No way! They convince themselves they're the only virgins left in the world. Boys grow up unable to get real sex and consume the cheapest substitute, usually some form of video. Girls become all the warier of this sick obsession.

This system can be viewed as essentially enslaving all men at the mercy of women. Think of it this way. If all we cared about was to produce enough food, shelter, and other necessities to live comfortably, 5% of the population working full-time would be plenty. The reason why nearly all of us work is to accumulate a little more wealth than the guy next door. It's to show that cute blonde that you have an even better lifestyle, a little higher social status, a bit more education, etc than the rest. Many of us pay for the more attractive pussy by literally spending a whole lifetime working.

What makes That Asshole stand out is not the particular solution he recommends, but the very idea of suggesting a solution in the first place. Our failure to collaborate is the result of a near total lack of passion and will. That Asshole exudes a hope and optimism that nearly everyone has already lost a long time ago as a child. It's not about being 100% factually accurate and objective, don't you see? It's about feeling the right emotions and acting on those emotions. We've been conditioned our whole lives to pit ourselves against each other and to use our emotions to try to outdo or outsmart other men. He's offering you an alternative.

Pure Logic

Prince Harry
07-18-07, 11:33
An alternative?
Thinking or behaving like that like that arsehole-no thanks brother.
I am a human being.

Forever69
07-18-07, 15:41
Although I agree with you about That Asshole most of what you write, and is too lengthy to get into it sentence by sentence, sounds good but has nothing to do with any reality neither here nor there. Woman in general are more competitive with/against each other than men, for example. And yes their power in the western christian world is based on withholding sex to the point were they rather shrivel up and get implants. And to bring this back to where it is, your ass esment has thank the lord buddha nothing to do with reality here in pp. I have never seen the girls gang up or even tell each other the truth about the johns ever. We would be so out of luck if they ever did. The raising of the prices is just something the individuals learn by watching that more money can be made in sales than in services. This is why it is so important to keep the prices where they belong. Because instead of providing their service as they have learned and being paid and trying to get ahead by getting more customers and doing a better job to get more customers they start to focus on haggeling over the price. Because some idiots feel that it was just so worth it to them to get off, finally, that they throw a months salary at a hooker! Not mother theresa, no, a hooker who just happens to be the one that saved their little weiner from the burning desire to have SEX, FINALLY! And with their stupid christian background they try to save themselves from their feelings of guilt by throwing handfulls of bills around and mess up everything as usual. Wherever the tourist goes and whatever they do they leave a path of destruction by messing with a delicate balance wether it is in nature or society makes no difference. When you go to a foreign environments tread lightly, very very leave no traces behind, do not change or alter anything, start thinking now! It's too late any way.

And most of all leave your superior view on things you do not understand anyway AT HOME.

After I read yor post again I realixed that I might have missed the angle of your intend but after all the typing and the good feeling I got from it I will now post it anyway. It is the truth.I swear it!

NanaHawk
07-18-07, 19:49
An alternative?
Thinking or behaving like that like that arsehole-no thanks brother.
I am a human being.

I'm with you Prince,

we all have a choice as to how we behave and can choose to behave in accordance with the standards that are acceptable to us. It is an unfortunate fact of life that men like 'That Arsehole' give us all a bad name and we continually need to be on the defensive.

I gave up, a long time ago, trying to persuade anyone that their point of view might be offensive but commend anyone else's attempt at doing so.

Hawk

That Asshole
07-19-07, 07:23
RE: That disguisting feminist article, "killer condoms crap", etc.

Dear Hypocrite Self Made Royal friend,

Please ask yourself: Why did you come here? For the food? For sightseeing? For the nice people? My friend, please don't be a hypocrite.

You did not come for the food, because it sucks. Not to see the Killing Fields either because it's crap, there is nothing there. And the nice people? Come on baby, you had enough of that after 3 days. (BTW now you are spending most of your waking time with foreigners anyway.)


*****To play billiards?*****
And yet you come back year after year, to slurp beer at the Walkabout Hotel and to grab young girls asses at the pool table all day long. My friend, are here any things that you cannot get at home? You can get the beer and the pool - but grabbing young girls' asses....hmmmm maybe in your wet dreams.

Why is that? My dear gentleman friend, who are sooooo very keen to stand up for your lovely womens' rights. How come that it is so different over here than at your home? If it wasn't so very different then you would be grabbing young girls asses at home and saving the trouble and expense of travelling.


*****Built on "Respect"*****
The meat trade that you came here to enjoy existed long before you could even pronounce "Khmer" properly. It was built for the locals, by the locals and in fact was much better before you ever came this way. There was no naked dancing and cock-sucking bars but the girls were much more plentiful, much prettier, younger and nicer personality - lot more respectful.

It was not built by you, and neither by me. It was built for local men by local men. Should I say, that among others, by the very policemen, the Khmer policemen that you despise so much and against whom that whole "shameful woman's whingeing article" is directed.

*****Built on Strenght*****
It was built on respect and strenght. Sorry to inform you that respect does not come from the law. It comes only from conscious, long time effort and hard work. There is no "respect-pill", that you take after meal and you will be respected by women. It is not laid down in the written law either, but simply everyone knows it when there is and so does everyone know when there isn't any. Like in your famous, enlightened and civilised homeland. Should I repeat? There isn't any respect for men. And so aren't any brothels either with beautiful young girls working for the price of an evening-meal.


*****'cos Mama told me so....*******
The Khmer Policeman.... The Khmer Man..... Do you hate these? Why do you hate them? Because mama told you so? If mama tells you anything, will you do it? My dear distinguished friend, how on earth did you manage to get a passport if you are still sitting on your mama's skirt?

As I said, it was much better years ago and still not too bad if you get out of the tourist centres (where the kind like you gathers). Yet, the respect that had been laid down by generations, is currently being eroded at a fast pace. The "respect" is never laid down in law, yet everyone knows it. It is strenght! The Khmer woman knows about the brothels and yet can do nothing. She gets disciplined regularly by her husband at home , yet she can do nothing about it.

*****Mens' Unity*****
She never acts "big mouth" in public because it would lead to severe consequences. When one man here is humiliated by a woman, she is faced with a strong, united class-action by all men, and even by her parents. She doesn't risk it. This is how the meat-trade is built and is supported. This is respect. Based on strenght. Not on law. It works, you can see, that's why you came here, dear Hypocrite. The alternative would be your home style. Where do you come from? How many young beautiful girls work in brothels there for a pittance (price of couple of meals, 3 beers)?

No doubt, you hypocrite and your friends will destroy it soon. Good luck to it. Welcome to Khmer America, Khmer England, Khmer Europe. Please don't forget to follow what the women order you to do. After all you are a slave anyway, you can't deny it.

*****One sided portrait******
The acts attributed to some policemen may have happened, however are far from typical. They portray one sidedly and simply from the view of women. They do no justice and are deeply biased. I any case, no matter what happened or not, we have to realize who we are. Either we are with the system or against it. Those being criticized are men. So are we (though not sure about you). Fighting them will earn us no respect. We are men. We want more brothels, more beautiful young women working in the sex-trade for a pittance. Not only in Cambodia but anywhere in the world, in America and England too. Even if some of us get too extreme sometimes, certainly we do not let any woman criticize us. Full stop.


*****Sparkling logic******
That disguisting article was aimed to destroy the respect towards men. Your comment is fascinating: Oh yeah, the writer was a woman but not a feminist? Sure, "she" was a "man-ist" then. Must have been. Working to empower men? How did'ya figger that out? Your great logic is sparkling and fascinating. Will look out for the flame at Walkabout next time. Also the fact that you may personally know one of the authors has no meaning. How much credible does that make them? You are a nobody as far as we know, no more than a faceless handle on a sextourist dirt-forum. I am sure that NGO author wouldn't be so proud of admitting to know you.
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I hope you might become a real person, a "man" some day, and cease to be a "slave" of women. The day to start is today. It's simple. Just stop fighting men. So simple.....


Some travels: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=622003&postcount=200

Member #3443
07-19-07, 09:48
let's put things in their proper perspective - there is a huge difference between enjoyment and arrangements between consenting adults and nonconcensual abuse, assault, theft, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), pillaging and murder.

Opebo
07-19-07, 09:57
let's put things in their proper perspective - there is a huge difference between enjoyment and arrangements between consenting adults and nonconcensual abuse, assault, theft, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), pillaging and murder.

alas, perhaps not to the student of foucault, marx, etc. in any case, while as an american i was bred with a 'liberal mind' (a sort of brain damage, or anyway hubris), i can do nothing but applaud humble turd's wonderful posts. we would all like to apply principles, ideologies, and 'fairness', but i fear mr. turd's brute analysis is closer to how the world really works, and his prescriptions will lead to a lot more of what we want - cheap sex with young women.

Verde99
07-19-07, 22:56
I know what a dollar is and what it can and cannot do where I live. Dollars and their equivalents are very important to me and you.

When I can enjoy a decent meal sitting in a café in Zhanjiang for 5 RMB, I feel more than my satiated appetite, I feel powerful. I feel weak when someone checks me into a Crowne Plaza for $120/USD per night and I receive in exchange the opportunity to eat scrambled “Army-style” eggs for breakfast as a way to have a bit of my USA home offered to me as a condolence for being so far from “the freest and greatest country in the history of the world”. My sense of power comes from the perception that I have “beaten the system”. No one got rich on my 5 RMB meal except me. I got richer on the savings. Other people involved only survived and they were grateful for that.

To remain an endeavoring foe of hypocrisy, I must seek to understand and accept all of the factors that lead up to this satisfying transaction. When the café owner’s wife gave birth and there were complications, the baby died. Then the café owner severely twisted his ankle and misaligned his kneecap, it was set by the local medicals. There were no x rays taken and the latest medical advances were far from available. The failure to achieve an accurate set will cause the café owner pain regularly in his leg for the rest of his short (by western standards) life. He may be in pain as he stands in front of the pot of roasted pork scraps from which I will receive my lunch. This is the circumstance of my 5 RMB meal. And I will enjoy them (the meals not the circumstances) as often as possible accepting that the “differential in wealth” i.e. poverty is what made this possible.

I will also use women for purely sexual purposes without hesitation. She is, by nature of her makeup, the compliment to my natural sexual needs. I did not choose these needs nor did I choose her being the ideal solution for fulfilling those needs. This previous sentence may imply that I am somehow shirking responsibility for my actions. I assure that is not the case. My actions are mine, which is the basis of everything that I hold dear.

When my sexual needs require fulfilling, I do my best to preserve my integrity even in the face of powerful urgency. My integrity will demand that if I am asked and feel compelled to answer, I will be perfectly forthcoming about the fact the she, upon being hired, will completely exist for my satisfaction. During the duration of her hire, she will have no other reason for existence. Differential in wealth make this possible.

I was told once that I objectify woman for sex. I thought about this and decided that the opposite is truer. I actually personify her. I will take whatever personality she has on display and then impose thoughts and attributes of my desiring onto her and take all this concoction into the sexual act. If could be satisfied with an object, I could save a lot of money and effort.

I will be the last one to support and encourage the NGO-types who want to change and effect the culture from their outside perspective. I do not think, throughout history there have been any successful examples of forcing a change on a culture from the outside except through brutal force. Perhaps the NGOs should get some tanks and concentration camps and do this job right. In modern history, atomic bombs were used on one particular culture with reasonable success.

Perhaps I should accept the gangsters’ cultural right to treat their females the way they deem fit. And I on several levels, I do. As I had previously mentioned, I do not think it is possible or even ethical to impose social change on a culture.

But the practical side of all this is that if my pursuit of the fulfillment that I need is thwarted by the encounter with a scabbed and bruised vagina, then I am injured. And the attack that caused the damage was on me.

Perhaps I should be more humble and accepting of the brutality inflicted by some men of a culture towards some women of that culture. But if I am attacked should I not at least have reason to be upset?

I do hope that we can some day live in a world where men do not attack other men in this way.

Brenno
07-23-07, 23:51
Good evening Gentlemen, I'm new writer here but definitly not new reader. I can describe myself as a self-made monger who lately discover ISG and its precious services for whom I would like to thank you all of you fellows of this fine art that is "fucking around". In these days I'm RTFF of Indonesia and Philippines as are my next targets. After Reading some like 1000 reports on Sunday I decided to have a rest for a while and write something. Closing this short introduction of me I must say my personal hero here is That Asshole unless I'm not sure he would like to be defined as an hero. With him I share a personal angriness against female-world, but I must say to him that it doesn't really matter how one is, wether kind or bad, ugly or handsome, clean or smelly. Me I'm a 45 good looking man but this had never helped me. It must exists some sort of secret recipe, some men has some has not to deal with females. The ones who has it, just rock over one after one after one, the others, just hang on window and look at the scenary. That's it. As a friend of mine say "If for some misterious reason she likes you, you can even dance on the table with smelly socks and burping bier around, they will say you are great man, if she doesn't like you, you can be as kind polite rich and whatever you want, it doesn't matter".

First time mongering I went to Thailand, 3 years ago, the only information I had was "Pattaya", wich in the case of Pattaya it is all you need, I wonder why there is a forum about Pattaya, there is nothing to explain or secrets to be discoverd. You go there, soon you know, everything is under the sun, the only thing missed is people fucking right on the beach. I was shy and unexperienced at the time, Pattaya is the right place to start. Anyway I'm proud to have discovered by myself, Bangkok, patpong, soi cowboy, nana. Obvious yes, try yourself without map.

I've been recently to a tour Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, so here is my report about Phnom Penh.

First of all: Sophie Club. Yes, everthing said about that place is true, the very first need is knowing exactly where it is. If you don't have the right address and the description of the stair to get in, you won't find it. There is this small door, look like a private apartment. You knock on and soon you fill find yourself seated down with a bunch of meat in between your legs. For shy people, you don't really need to do nothing, they will do everything. Just let them do. You don't have to ask, neither to speak. I was just laughing at the experience. Not a really god meat, didn't see any cute. It doens't matter, having that bunch of young girls on their knees in front of you, barking like dogs for having the bare possibility of sucking your little brother, is great. Made me think "Oh god, what a wonderful world will be if everywhere were like that". Can you imagine western women do that? 15$ the BBBJ on the back room, 4$ for four tips at the dogs and 5$ to mamasan for beer and tip, just in case I come back.

Mikado. Great service at Mikado. Tough papasan and young chickens, like father with many daughters. Use their rooms at first floor, they are clean and well furnisched. The one where I've been had mirror full wall and ceiling, the big tits of the gal with me reflected infinite time in them, it was like being surrounded by tits, as I would have payed for 50 of them. 25$ and I got her the day after at my hotel for free. Tipped with dinner.

Walkabout. My experience with freelancers. Just wait, sooner or later someone will come to you. I just don't know how to deal with them at first. A thin, light, small and wavy girl came next to me, soon followed by her friend wich was same. Two little cicks I could lift up with just one hand. They asked 30$ each, I gave her 35 for the couple. Very fun fucking one while the other was watching tv right next to us on bed, then changed, the second doggy style, the first watching tv. When over, they start to jump like they would had springs in their feet asking for tip. I told them, next time do not watch tv. They cried a little bit. (the day after they found me same place, had same course without watching tv and I tipped 10$ for the two. What I've learned in this experience: being kind won't worth, meat need to be trained, and never never trust in tears, the more tears they do, the more kindness will be next time).

Heart of darkness is a huge mess. Tons of tourist, even western women. Useful only after midnight, some very young little chiks at that time, all packed in the corner at the right after entrance (toilets way). High heels, very porno look, stunners. Unfortunetly I was coupled that night, big mistake.

Hotel Flamingo is definitly the best choice. You can rest in your room and as you feel horny just go downstairs, cross the road and pick up one at walkabout wich is right in front, like a supermarket, but wait until late afternoon. We were all going up and down with girls, almost continuosly, like a railway station. It doesn't exist a place more GF then this.

Along riverside I didn't see nothing, neither street walking activity on 51 or wherever. Maybe I'm not able to, after all I've just started my career.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Verde99
07-25-07, 04:18
Nice report. Either that or I want to be a "senior member" and I only need two more posts. It is like the PRIZE at the bottom of a box of sugary cerial. I gotta have it now!

Seriously, nice post.

Me I'm a 45 good looking man but this had never helped me.

Story of my life!

I told them, next time do not watch tv. They cried a little bit. (the day after they found me same place, had same course without watching tv and I tipped 10$ for the two. What I've learned in this experience: being kind won't worth, meat need to be trained, and never never trust in tears, the more tears they do, the more kindness will be next time).

Yes. And I want to point out that not every man would give them a second chance. But, this was the right thing to do and you were rewarded with their improved service.

Heart of darkness is a huge mess. Tons of tourist, even western women.

Story of my life.

Useful only after midnight, some very young little chiks at that time, all packed in the corner at the right after entrance (toilets way). High heels, very porno look, stunners.

Good advice. Note to self: Don't get too drunk. Stay up late.

Hotel Flamingo is definitly the best choice. You can rest in your room and as you feel horny just go downstairs, cross the road and pick up one at walkabout wich is right in front, like a supermarket, but wait until late afternoon. We were all going up and down with girls, almost continuosly, like a railway station. It doesn't exist a place more GF then this.

You sold me. But is there turn-down service in the evenings?

Prince Harry
07-25-07, 07:27
Yeah,yeah,yeah TA.
I wasn't trying to change your attitudes,that is impossible.
I think I feel sorry for you,really.
I have been living and travelling in asia for more than thirty years and I don't need any lectures from you as to how things really are.
I obviously indulge in young women but I treat them well as I treat all people well in the third world.Last time in cambodia I helped many people,men and women with education expenses,medical procedures,tuk tuk repairs etc etc.
The world would be a very sad place if we all dis respected people as you do,wouldn't it?

Noman2
07-25-07, 08:06
Nice report Brenno.

I'll be there in 2 months, can't wait anymore, LOL.

Gangles
07-25-07, 18:31
Hello gents,

Great to read the posts, keeping info up to date. I have been to Phnom Penh on three occasions and I will be there soon for a week or so.

I am looking for advice.

My chemical enhancement of choice is Levitra. Expensive. The generic is Vardenafil.

Does anyone know a pharmacy which sells them? Preferably the generic?

Thanks in anticipation.

That Asshole
07-26-07, 17:46
Dear Opebo,

Thanks for the support. I would just like to make a note that "Humble Turd" is dead. He passed away about 6 months ago. Now sure he must be in Hell, where he deserves to be by his evil life. Before he passed out, he handed me his Will. And that was to follow in his footsteps.

Maybe one day we will meet again, possibly being chained to the same rock and an ever hungry eagle eating out our livers every day for eternity. Let's admit it, we are no saints. We are rotten as it gets. To pretend to be good would be hypocrisy and also we would be fooling ourselves.

For a human it is not possible to be good. Maybe only to "look good", and even that just temporarily. I always marvel at people how hard they try to "look good", and fearing that their dirt comes to light. They are fooling themselves, most of all.

So, the point is: Humble Turd is dead. Thanks for noting it. (Nobody else knows by now who HT is anyway.)
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And just one more thing: "aids" - (note, all lower case!)

It is not reciprocating defense for defense but I really mean it. I have noticed the criticism against you, as being irresponsible and even criminal for preferring "bareback". Rest assured that those people know not what they are talking about.

I have seriously thought about it for a very long time and had to finally conclude the whole "aids issue" a big hoax. It is not by analysing the "scientific" facts. I am not qualified to do that. It is totally confusing anyway and I doubt that anybody really understands it. (As I have noted in the relevant chapter of this forum.)

The correct approach is from the human side. From logic and common sense. It is simply business, to make more money and to lead the masses of brainless sheep is so easy. They know nothing, just follow and repeat what they hear. The same goes for "cancer, terrorism, child abuse, etc".

So, I don't think you are "irresponsible" or "evil". But simply maybe you watch less television, read less the news and perhaps you have more of your own mind than the average "sheep".

So, good luck to your "uncovered adventures". It will never-ever make you sick and never will you make anyone sick by it. Disease comes from lot deeper than a cock, a **** or a bacteria. In fact the real sickening thing is the keenness of the masses to follow and repeat stupid messages what they understand nothing about.

It needs no explanation that taking care of your "health" means a lot more than just covering your cock, popping a pill, getting an injection, or receiving a "magic spell". Anyone would be a fool relying on such things to stay healthy. "Health" means a lot more than that. To believe in such things, one must be a woman or similar kind of creature.

Brenno
07-26-07, 22:22
Nice report. Either that or I want to be a "senior member" and I only need two more posts. It is like the PRIZE at the bottom of a box of sugary cerial. I gotta have it now!

Seriously, nice post.

Yes. And I want to point out that not every man would give them a second chance. But, this was the right thing to do and you were rewarded with their improved service.


You sold me. But is there turn-down service in the evenings?Thank you. I bet 80% of people in Flamingo were nick of ISG, talked with someone, we are all there, looks like a convention, you will see. Staff simply don't bother. Don't remember in the evening, I've never been there in the evening, actually I don't know. The reason I often give a second chance is because I travel slowly, usually my trip last 40 days at least, then I'm not in a hurry like being there just for one week and have to fullfill sensations for the winter of solitude when I come back home.
Brenno

Robarts
07-27-07, 06:44
Hi All. I have found this forum very informative and used this resource in planning accomodation and nights out in PP last year. I will be in PP again this November and cant wait to have a beer at Shanghi Bar, a steak at Rose bar and more importantly, smack some yound firm ass!

Prior to arriving in PP this time I will continue to check this forum for your thoughts and advice. The only reports that I dont bother to read are the ones that refer to the women we enjoy so much as "meat" or engage in socio-political theories that argue that women are inferior etc. I would prefer to hear about good value accomodation, good place for a beer or some food and most importantly, where to meet the fairer sex in PP.

Having said all this it would be hypocritical for me not to share some of my experiences in PP last year.

Sophies: Have to go but be prepared to be molested (not a bad thing!) as soon as you buy a drink at the bar. Easiest way to find it from Flamingos is to head up Street 51 in the opposite direction from the Walkabout and turn right when you get to Cat House Tavern (10 minute stroll) head down that street and 100 metres down, look for a the Sophies sign at the intersection on the far right corner as you enter the intersection. Enter via stairway on the side on the building). The girls at sophies are into anything and the relatively cheap prices and convienience has to be noted
Flamingos: Cant beat the location and rooms range from $20-30 per night. If you walk out of Flamingos turn right on the road and head down over 2-3 intersections, you will find Super Star hotel on the right hand side of the road. Similar (a little bigger and lighter) rooms to Flamingos but at $12 per night is great value although slightly further from the action.

Shanghi: Great place to have a beer and a chat to the girls. Can bar fine the girls for $5 after 10pm or $10 prior to 10pm. Food is ok

Rose Bar: Near the river. Quality of girls is good. Girls behind the bar sometimes wont go out but the girls wandering around (the majority) are fair game:
Walkabout: Graet Loction but quality of girls is not so good

Sharkies: Good fun. Good music and a couple of pool tables with drink speacials every night. Heaps of Freelancers and a good place to negotiate a threesome as the girls here often hang out in pairs. $20 LT is the norm. If you want to take a couple of girls make sure that you ask if they will do "pussy yum yum" if you want to see a really good show prior to getting involved yourself. Only problem is is that if you spend too much time watching the girls getting it on, when you jump in you mighten last that long.

Martini: Huge place a fair way from Flamingos but worth checking out. Lots of girls and if you like dancing there is plenty of room to bust some of your favourite moves
Heart of Darkness: Gets busy after 1am. Heaps of people every night and is the choice PP nightclub of back packers when they manage to drag themselves away from their happy pizza shops and bars around the lake. Drinks are expensive and you have to leave your bags at the door. However, plenty of local girls out having fun and looking for guys like us to buy the drinks, have a chat and take them home (often for free if you some some interest in them and make them laugh)

Anyway, I hope you can pick up a bit of info from this report. I certainly have gained a comprehensive insight into the night life of PP through your reports so thankyou to all of you. Finally, without trying to sound too high and mighty, lets try and treat the women we travel great distances for to have a whole lot of fun with with a little more respect.

Cheers,

Robarts

PS If anyone is going to be in PP in November, let me know if you want to catch up for a few beers and a laugh.

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Spokaneman35
07-28-07, 23:59
I am thinking of staying at the Asia Palace hotel I was wondering if it is GF, location, and any other information would be great.

Thanks for the help

SaltyDog
07-31-07, 08:03
And elevatorIs the Asia Palace the same as the Asia Hotel?

GreenBud
07-31-07, 18:18
I am thinking of staying at the Asia Palace hotel I was wondering if it is GF, location, and any other information would be great.

Thanks for the helpAsia Palace is GF.

It is on Monivong, with a view of the Central Market.

Asia Hotel is different, but close by on the same street.

Asia Palace was spectacular a few years ago when they just remodeled it, but now it is not as new. Kind of worn. Hotel rooms gets quickly thrashed. But it is still decent. One bedroom suites are expensive (in Cambodian terms), but the balcony view is nice.

Here is there website: http://www.asiapalacehotel.com.kh/En/index.htm

SaltyDog
08-01-07, 08:01
The more expensive Hotels would have NGOs in them, as they take a lot of money for themselves from donations, and also they seem to drink at bars on the river front.Is the Imperial Gardens a nice place to stay and how about the room rates. What is a NGO ?

Saibb
08-01-07, 18:33
Asia Palace is GF.

It is on Monivong, with a view of the Central Market.

Asia Hotel is different, but close by on the same street.

Asia Palace was spectacular a few years ago when they just remodeled it, but now it is not as new. Kind of worn. Hotel rooms gets quickly thrashed. But it is still decent. One bedroom suites are expensive (in Cambodian terms), but the balcony view is nice.

Here is there website: http://www.asiapalacehotel.com.kh/En/index.htm

The Big Luck is also on Monivong. Just wondering does it overlook central market or do I need a long range telescope to see it?
Thanks, SB

AdHome01
08-02-07, 02:45
Is the Imperial Gardens a nice place to stay and how about the room rates. What is a NGO ?NGO = Non-Government Organization

SaltyDog
08-02-07, 08:57
I'm just curious as I will be in PP the 1st week of October. I've read many reports of the Flamingo with cell phones, cameras missing, too many people in room while cleaning and people wearing your clothes and not their's (I didn't hear of money missing though). I've never heard of that going on in VN. I've always felt secure leaving my stuff in the room or hotel. So, what is the fascination with this hotel? No reports like that in SR though. I've done my homework and read that the Flamingo has in room safes. Is that true. It it now does now have then I can understand staying there but without I have many doubts. How about the boat that leave the Royal Star Hotel. How long does it take to get from PP to SR? Thank you I WILL stay away from St 63, thanks all. I've learned something from your lesson, don't try and be so damn cheap! Bleached sheets are not bad, just very clean. Having done my homework "Sharkies" has a star next to it and "Heart of Darkness" night club just to hang out and check out the party people of PP. Any other GF Hotels? Looking foward to visiting Ankor what.

Later

Ekspat
08-02-07, 12:04
The Big Luck is also on Monivong. Just wondering does it overlook central market or do I need a long range telescope to see it?
Thanks, SB
Even with telescope you can't see the market from Big Luck.
Long time not been in PP, but I guess it's 2-3 km from Market southwards.

Cheers!

Forever69
08-02-07, 16:27
I stayed in Flamingo several times and never had a problem. Just stick to the usual precautions as everywhere and yes they have safes, not sure in room but they had them at the front desk which is sufficient. Good location, airport pick up nice rooms elevator girls and so on for 20 or 25$. You can book online-and no I don't work there and don't stay there either. too much money.

Prince Harry
08-02-07, 17:05
[QUOTE=Blueskies]I'm just curious as I will be in PP the 1st week of October. I've read many reports of the Flamingo with cell phones, cameras missing, too many people in room while cleaning and people wearing your clothes and not their's (I didn't hear of money missing though). I've never heard of that going on in VN. I've always felt secure leaving my stuff in the room or hotel. So, what is the fascination with this hotel? No reports like that in SR though. I've done my homework and read that the Flamingo has in room safes. Is that true. It it now does now have then I can understand staying there but without I have many doubts. How about the boat that leave the Royal Star Hotel. How long does it take to get from PP to SR? Thank you I WILL stay away from St 63, thanks all. I've learned something from your lesson, don't try and be so damn cheap! Bleached sheets are not bad, just very clean. Having done my homework "Sharkies" has a star next to it and "Heart of Darkness" night club just to hang out and check out the party people of PP. Any other GF Hotels? Looking foward to visiting Ankor what.

Flamingos does have in room safes and it's main advantage is it's central position and it is pretty quiet around here compared to the riverside.Nowadays it is nearly always full so that has to say something.
104 bar has many lovelies at the moment,sharkies and the walkabou have the same old faces.

SaltyDog
08-03-07, 08:51
Yeah, thanks Prince Harry. I'll be there the first week of October on my way to Angkor what. Looks like a good place to reserve a room once I get my flight confirmation. Is it GF? I know there's flights going there, you know how much from PP to Angkor. I have even heard of a boat that travels up the river. Is it a good way to travel to Angkor and how long does it take to take a slow boat to SR. I don't think the boat will be too expensive but the thought just popped up. I went to their website and the rooms look much better than the reports said. The location looks very good. But still I have to see Angkor.

Gohan39
08-03-07, 11:29
How about the boat that leave the Royal Star Hotel. How long does it take to get from PP to SR? The boat is not a good way to go, the road to SR is a good one and the bus made it in about 5 hours my last trip. Take the Mekong Express bus, located on riverfront. Get a moto to take you there 1day before you leave and buy the ticket. These buses are popular so tickets can be soldout if you just show up expecting to get onboard.

Don't take the cheap buses that leave from the Capitol guest house. The Mekong charges more but you get what you pay for and it's still cheap, under $10 sorry I don't remember exact prices even though it's less than 1 year still.

The boat costs over $20 and takes around 7 hours. In this case you don't get what you pay for since it's overpriced and a miserable trip. IMO.

Mega
08-03-07, 18:07
The so call fast boat costs USD25.00 and Mekong Express Bus at USD10 per seat with a little refreshment given.

Both are from Phnom Penh to Siem Reap or vs.

lastlap
08-04-07, 06:40
To an extent it is, but it isn't set up as a place for the punters. It's a quiet place catering to couples and families, so exercise good judgment. I'd bring back a girl after midnight and have her out before 7 am, and I kept it low key. The front desk clerk didn't give me or the girls any hassle. Nice place w/ friendly staff. Rooms from $36 to $52.I would agree with that assessment of the Billabong. Terrific breakfast BTW. I arrived on a Sunday with a small supply of US dollars and plenty of US Travellers Cheques. Unlike Flamingo's they do not negoiate travellers cheques except when paying the bill on departure. The nice lady on reception also told me that I would be unable to cash T/C's anywhere on Sunday. In my room I perused the yellow pages and found entries for several banks which were open on Sunday. I strolled out to Monivong to the Cambodia Asia Bank and had no problem changing TC's with the usual 2% commission. I took great delight in informing the recepionist.

Jaimito Cartero
08-04-07, 18:44
Just saw this posted on Flyertalk. I know it works for October dates, but possibly some September and early November flights too. Bookable on www.travelocity.com and cheaptickets.com

This will probably disappear quickly, so jump on it.

Kniom
08-08-07, 09:49
What's the problem about Capitol Busses? I always took them to S.R., Poipet or Sihanoukville. Always on time. Never expierienced any problems like theft, breakdowns etc.

Vnmonger
08-08-07, 14:06
In late June I stayed at the Flamingo. After checking in, I tried to use the safe in the room. As usual I tried the safe first before putting my valuables inside. After locking the safe with my "secret" combination I cannot open the safe using the same combination. So I called reception and they duly send a staff. The staff easily opened the safe using the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6. He left the room and I was feeling rather happy that I can use the safe. I proceeded to use the safe by selecting another "secret combination". Before going out of the room I tested the safe by using 1,2,3,4,5,6 to open it and guess what? The safe opened! Later I asked the staff why he used 1,2,3,4,5,6 as his master combination number. He said it is supposed to be a secret and he asked me not to tell others. How to explain to him? I hope Flamingo have changed the "master combination" to a more random number. Sufficient to say I dare not use the safe. My old bag with 4-digits key combination felt safer. Brothers, beware of safes in budget hotels. In Kunming I had a similar safe story but that time the hotel staff carried away the safe to be repaired just like a rather heavy box. Would you feel "safe"?

Anyway Flamingo remain my favored place to stay in PP.

Niknoy
08-09-07, 06:38
[QUOTE=That Asshole]Dear Opebo,

Thanks for the support. I would just like to make a note that "Humble Turd" is dead. He passed away about 6 months ago. Now sure he must be in Hell, where he deserves to be by his evil life. Before he passed out, he handed me his Will. And that was to follow in his footsteps.

Long live humble turd as we say in England, but why should mongers go to hell, its only because christain and other religions have decided that johns and prostitutes are against the law, and of course we get the witch hunts.

We mongers are giving money to poor woman, building up the economys of 3rd world countrys, "man" we mongers are life savers.

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Greetings Niknoy,

It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Fast Eddie 48
08-09-07, 16:58
In late June I stayed at the Flamingo. After checking in, I tried to use the safe in the room. As usual I tried the safe first before putting my valuables inside. After locking the safe with my "secret" combination I cannot open the safe using the same combination. So I called reception and they duly send a staff. The staff easily opened the safe using the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6. He left the room and I was feeling rather happy that I can use the safe. I proceeded to use the safe by selecting another "secret combination". Before going out of the room I tested the safe by using 1,2,3,4,5,6 to open it and guess what? The safe opened! Later I asked the staff why he used 1,2,3,4,5,6 as his master combination number. He said it is supposed to be a secret and he asked me not to tell others. How to explain to him? I hope Flamingo have changed the "master combination" to a more random number. Sufficient to say I dare not use the safe. My old bag with 4-digits key combination felt safer. Brothers, beware of safes in budget hotels. In Kunming I had a similar safe story but that time the hotel staff carried away the safe to be repaired just like a rather heavy box. Would you feel "safe"?

Anyway Flamingo remain my favored place to stay in PP.To VNmonger,

I never trust the in room safe in a 2-3 star hotel ,put your money in the hotel safe instead and I have got money stolen in a Pattaya Hotel few month ago lucky they only take 2000 bht I know it is done by hotel staff, I compain to owner and got a discount for my room so I know this happen before.

Fast eddie 48

Denom
08-09-07, 19:41
Very bad news, guys. Sophie Club is no more, at least no more like we used to know. No more blow jobs, that is. I just came out from that club and am using the internet cafe next door. Apparently, since two days they are not allowed to engage in that activity anymore. I came here last Sunday and was still serviced, but today, Thursday night, I've got nothing at all apart from invitation to buy ladies' drinks.

After the two last drunkards got out the bartenders finally explained it to me. As long as there were people they only pretended not to speak English. They really should fucking be more explicit right away. Instead, they accept orders for drinks and say nothing unless you virtually torture them into explaining what happened.

When I came in today there was four people quietly speaking at the bar. At first I thought the girls would not do anything because these four were just hanging out there. I was kind of pissed and took a walk. When I came back, two drunkards were sitting there, just as unserviced as I was and as the four previous guys were. I started to hit the two ladies behind the bar with questions and only got the answer when the two drunkards went out.

This is very bad news and goes a step further in making Cambodia more and more boring as a sex tourism destination. Who knows whether normal activities will resume later or not. May or may not be, depending probably on proper protection money paid or not or maybe on so-called political will.

To be honest the blow jobs you would get there were not as good in quality as the ones you would get in Bangkok or Pattaya blow job bars but it was better than nothing and the sampling system was really kind of fun. Now you'll have to get your blow jobs the normal way, hiring a hooker or otherwise. No more cheap and quick jobs when you felt like getting some with your drink.

Denom
08-10-07, 04:20
I came here last Sunday and was still serviced, but today, Thursday night, I've got nothing at all apart from invitation to buy ladies' drinks.A rather disturbing details one way or the other. It was not Sunday when I was still serviced it was the day before, Wednesday night!! I remembered correctly this morning. Yesterday my brain was still kind of foggy it seems. I indeed went to Sophie on Sunday night but it was well after closing time at 1am and so the lights were off and stairway door closed. I went back Wednesday night at around 12h and it was then that I was serviced.

But then, how come I was still serviced with five sample BJ on Wednesday night when the ban was supposedly two days before Thursday night? It therefore either is not true (and would be a very bad joke indeed) or since I was the only one on Wednesday and it was near closing time they made an exception to the rule.

There were only about 7-8 girls when I arrived on Wednesday and the ambiance was closing time ambiance. I sat down, ordered drink, then the pant was unzipped and they started the show. Samples were OK but nothing outstanding so I passed over the actual deed. When I passed on the going to back room offer (I never do in Sophie) one of the older girl made a comment that if they knew I would not go to the back room they would not have given me sample. This was bullshit and I told her in no mild terms. I also ignored their claim for $3 a sample and just gave them the normal $1 price, which they seemed happy with. They also proposed to go all the way with the BJ after I declined the room, so everything seemed like normal on that day. I declined this last offer as well as I had great plans for the next day, and I am very happy I did as my plan turned out just that great indeed. The only reason I went to Sophie on Thursday night was because I was still horny just thinking about my experience during the day so I felt a second quick release was needed.

It seems strange that they would say sampling is only if you go to the back room. This has never been so in Sophie. Might be because they were going against the "new ban"? Or did they give me the cold shower on Thursday because of my behavior on the previous day? But then none of the six guys I saw there on Thursday seemed to have been serviced either...

Because of all this I am a bit in doubt about what is the real deal after all.

We therefore would need more confirmations than just my experience.

Who's next?

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First Lover
08-10-07, 13:49
Oh no can it really be true? SOPHIES closed? I was so looking forward to go to PP for party and play and so on, and one of the real attractions were, after reading this forum, to go to SOPHIES for the samples at the bar and so on.

What happened? NGO? Does anyone have opinon if it will regain its former working order?

What a pity. Change is usually not for the better.

Now that I come to think of it, do the girls in Cyrcee Club wear underwear now or not. I read in here that it use to be "not" and was changed to "on".

Denom
08-11-07, 08:39
Now that I come to think of it, do the girls in Cyrcee Club wear underwear now or not. I read in here that it use to be "not" and was changed to "on".I have been to Cyrcee and checked under the dresses and there was a panty there.

Am in Siem Reap now no more PP so somebody else needs to check what's really happening or not at Sophie's.

Sicer
08-11-07, 16:14
Gentlemen,

Here is a field report that I have finally gotten around to writing after being back almost a month! My apologies if the information is a bit stale, but I think most of it will still be relevant.

I was in PP the first part of July for 3 nights, coming from BKK. I took the Air Asia flight, which has progressively gotten more expensive over time. $20 for the visa, but stupid me, for some reason I had no cash and I thought they would take my credit card. Fortunately, the visa guy, and the immigration official, allowed me to go beyond the immigration counters, into the area close to the baggage pick up, and use the ATM! Then I reversed back through immigration and paid for my visa, then walked back thorough immigration again! Very strange, but at least they used some common sense and let me at the ATM so I could enter their country and spend lots of my money.

I jumped on a motor bike, and he took me to Big Luck / Hong Kong for $2. The hotel was nice; I stayed on the 4th floor, king size bed, breakfast included, $25 a night. The pool was $2 extra, but not ‘per day’ as I mistakenly thought, but $2 ‘per session’. On my last day I used it twice, once in the afternoon and once in the evening, and they tried to charge me $4 on check out. However, to their credit, they waived it off as a mistake on my part, and only charged me $2. No in-room safe, but what appeared to be fairly secure lock boxes behind the front desk. No idea about WIFI, as I don’t travel in PP with a laptop, or even camera.

My first afternoon I walked around looking for something to do, and found out the Soho2 is closed. Knocked on the door, but was told by some westerner that he was just living there now, and not open. I thought it was just the time of day, but a later visit in the evening bore it out; sadly closed. I was looking forward to checking out the ‘tunnels’.

That same evening I went to Sophie’s. I have been to PP a few times, and know the system well enough, but this time, just as I’m settling in at the bar with my $5 'chosen one', I made the mistake of popping a vitamin V. The girl suddenly turns cold, figuring I’m going to take hours to shoot, and starts talking about ‘$5 for 5 minutes’ and ‘$10 till you pop’ etc. I politely decline the hard sell for the back room, finish my beer, and leave, clearly indicating I was not impressed with the new pricing structure, and vowing to tell all my friends on the internet about the poor service.

The rest of my time I spent mostly in the brothels, where the best value is to be had IMHO. I does take a clear head to avoid the rip offs, however. I find the best way to prevent them stealing money out of your pockets is to not take off your pants! I have done this countless times, and no money ever stolen. The girl lays down, I unzip, whip it out, and the deed is done. Often the girl complains because she knows that they won’t get any extra from my pockets, but I stand firm and get the job done. I have found that after visiting the same place few times, they don’t try to rip you off anymore. I do take off my kit for subsequent visits, and am usually shown to a regular room as well. I believe they have certain rooms that are set up for the rip off action; the regular rooms are where the girls actually live too.

I visited the place on the corner of 154 and Norodom about 6 times. There are two places side by side there, but I patronized only one. All girls $5 each, very cute, and they open early. I even went there about 11am on the second day. Another place I went to was on 63st and about 242st. The papa wanted $5 for the regular girls, but he wouldn’t budge from $10 for the cute ones. With much reluctance, I broke down and paid the money, but it was well worth it!

I hired a motorbike one night and he drove me all around town for some reconnaissance. We went to all the usual bars and areas, and some places off the track, like Tol Kouk. One new place (to me) he took me to was an area just south of Sihanouk Blvd on Sothearos. The driver told me it used to be some sort of dormitory or school for fine arts students. We stopped and I had a look around; not for the faint of heart! Some cute girls, but the conditions seemed lacking, and one mama quoted me $15. I did not even bother negotiating, but continued on my way. Perhaps on another visit I may come back to this area and investigate further. That evening I managed to poke my head into almost all the spots around town; $3 well spent.

I also patronized the 63st area around 184st. No problems, but I kept my pants on; $5 a pop. However, one establishment in this area I went into gave me a very bad feeling. I asked the girl for a BJ, but once she realized I was not going to remove my pants, she refused the deal. I simply walked out. On my way out I met another monger coming in and advised him to be careful with this place. Sure enough, about one minute later, he walked out too. Better safe than sorry, and there are lots of other providers.

I had dinner and beers many relaxing evenings on the riverfront, Tex Mex at Sharkey’s and nights under the PP stars. I also stocked up at the pharmacy; regular and generic Cialis, 4 caps, $5 and $4 respectively, generic Vitamin V, $9 for 20. $2 moto back to the airport, $25 departure tax, and I’m off back to BKK. Another great holiday in PP! I hope you find this information useful.

Sicer

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John Jr
08-11-07, 19:44
Im interested in a nice place where the action is simple and the girls are sweet and freindly .

Cambodia is an option but are there nice hotels that let the girls in .

John Jr

John Jr
08-11-07, 20:19
Looks like a nice place , any info or alternatives ?

Cam Bodia
08-11-07, 23:48
can somebody who's in phnom penh now please check out sophies?

we can't believe that it could change.

we are going to be in pp in two weeks time, so some speedy info would be much appreciated.

Shamas
08-12-07, 02:17
Looks like a nice place , any info or alternatives ?Dear JJr,

Most hotel in PPtown are GF. As far as B'villier goes, I suspect strongly that it is, just bring in a gal and see what comes down. For sure, Calif2, Cara, Flamingo, Walkabout, Imperial Princess, New York and geeze take an hour and scan these reports for Hotel info.

NOT GF is the oddity.

Shamas O'D

Xdentx
08-12-07, 05:31
While you're in SR, maybe you could check out Steung SR Hotel in the French Quarter and Angorland hotel. I'm looking for a good location within walking distance of the central market and mid priced, girl friendly. Any comments or suggestions appreciated. Thanks

Correspondent
08-12-07, 11:23
In late June I stayed at the Flamingo. After checking in, I tried to use the safe in the room. As usual I tried the safe first before putting my valuables inside. After locking the safe with my "secret" combination I cannot open the safe using the same combination. So I called reception and they duly send a staff. The staff easily opened the safe using the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6. He left the room and I was feeling rather happy that I can use the safe. I proceeded to use the safe by selecting another "secret combination". Before going out of the room I tested the safe by using 1,2,3,4,5,6 to open it and guess what? The safe opened! Later I asked the staff why he used 1,2,3,4,5,6 as his master combination number. He said it is supposed to be a secret and he asked me not to tell others. How to explain to him? I hope Flamingo have changed the "master combination" to a more random number. Sufficient to say I dare not use the safe. My old bag with 4-digits key combination felt safer. Brothers, beware of safes in budget hotels. In Kunming I had a similar safe story but that time the hotel staff carried away the safe to be repaired just like a rather heavy box. Would you feel "safe"?Sophies closing down is a bummer for sure, but what is really disturbing is this recent report.

Flamingos used to have a fairly decent lock-box system behind the reception which never failed for me (although anyone in the lobby might see what you have stored in it, so discretion was advisable) where the box was sealed with your signature. When I recently stayed there again and found they have in-room safes I was very pleased they had modernised their sytem. It is a shock to discover that their 'master key' is just another 6-digit code. I thought that they also required a real key in combination with a code. And in terms of it being 'a secret' I can guarantee that at least three people from the hotel know the combination, not just one. Eg. The owner, head manager, assistant manager, (night manager? ).

This makes me wonder how many other hotels use this same system; a simple code which will unlock all the safes in the hotel. Many safes only use a 4-digit combination.

I remember a story about a guy staying in Angeles City who lost $1000s that was locked in his in-room safe. He was certain the safe was locked and that it was 'cracked' by a bargirl whom he had left in his room. Have also heard about security guards stealing from safes at a major hotel in AC and as a result they were subsequently fired (but the patrons didn't get their cash/belongings back). Perhaps the first story had the bargirl working with someone from inside. The girl was never seen again.

Dinghy
08-12-07, 15:15
Cyrcee is up to the girl - some do some don't

That Asshole
08-13-07, 06:24
Tomato Sauce Cock in Phnom Penh....


**** Brothel on 154 Street ****
It started in a "no-name" brothel on 154 street in Phnom Penh. There was something unusual about the condom. The contents looked strange. Unusually tinted, never seen it before. Anyway, went down the toilet, without much consideration. Then as the night was still young, That Asshole opted for another three-some with a couple of beauties at Circee Club.

It all went quite allright, lots of moaning, groaning and pussy pumping action. Then the time came for the finale, a huge farewell shot onto one of the Viet girls' cute young face. She wasn't quite sure about if she wanted to do it or not, budged a bit and when she agreed it was already too late, the contents got emptied all into the rubber bag, while nstill inside the juicy ****-hole of the bustier one.


***** Tomato-sauce Cock *****
It was strange again, and even more than before. That Asshole decided to sneak into the toilet alone and examine it. By the looks of it the useless rubber apparat was filled with some sort of "tomato-sauce" looking thing.

Where would that come from? Normally tomato does not form part of the Khmer diet and he had been staying there for a couple of weeks, the last remains of any saucey hot-dog from home would have been emptied out through his bowels ages earlier.

Nevertheless it seemed fortunate that the shot ended in the rubber, otherwise might have become an embarrassment in front of the two girls. They might think that he is strange or something, shooting red sperm instead of the ugly shade of grey most men do even in international sex-tourist circles.


***** Frothy Liquid ****
That was enough action for the day so he retired to his hotel room and just out of curiousity started to gently massage his own wrinkled, age-ridden sausage by his nicotine yellowed arthritic fingers. After all, that is what he was used to do for many years and it still felt a lot better than sex with any woman in any country. The outcome was as expected, pure tomato sauce looking, frothy liquid.

He frustatedly held in his hand the now useless meat-loaf. Made him think a bit too. What's going to happen next. He cannot go on fucking like this, as every time he shoots they would look at him strangely. Surely, Red Sperm is odd. Even in Pol Pot country.


***** Man-Struating? *****
Otherwise from the color change in penile-excrement he felt no different than usual. However he arrived in his thinking to the point that women apparently experience tomato-sauce like excrement from their cunts every month. That made him scared a bit. He caught something.

He was starting to menstruate like women do. Except that he was a man. So, he must have been "Man-struating". That's it! He must have been spending too much time with them "female animals" by doing 2-3 "short-times" every day and their dirty customs started to rub off on him too. That's scary. Soon was he gonna grow tits too? And start to paint his face? And lie? Fuck, no,no!!


***** Medium Sized Carrot *****
So, he decided to just take it easy for the next few days and avoid "contact". See what happens. But soon he also noticed another development. On one of those happy occasions when he managed to pass some motion through his shithole (quite constipated), drops of tomato-sauce looking stuff appeared on the tip of his cock. That's amusing. What's the connection?

The same thing happened when he attempted to please himself by inserting a medium-sized carrot - that he bought at the vegetable section of "Psar Tmei" (that is New Market in Khmer) - into his lower opening. This always used to be fun time but now made a mess of the white bed linen.


***** Infected....with Death *****
Not to worry, women do go through it every month, if they can bear it then so can he. At the end instead of total abstinence, he decided just to talk less with them and concentrate more on his pumping action. Anyway, there were still some moves to perfect and this seemed the perfect time to do it.

So, instead of 3 "short-times" a day he opted for 4 but with less talking or no chat whatsoever. After all, he argued that the "infection" always comes through the brain and by the ears. Also - to avoid embarrassment - he trained himself to withhold his sperm at each fuck and only massage it out in the privacy of his own bathroom at the end of the day.

Days and some weeks passed. The tomato sauce slowly dried out, first became substance like fine coffee granules and then totally disappeard. What was it all about? He still wonders. He is not a smart man, so he doesn't worry about things unnecessarily. However it was an interesting experience. Happened to anyone else?


BTW this was about a year ago. Ever since it's all just an ugly shade of gray like most men do even in international sex-tourist circles.

Towoldse
08-13-07, 14:20
I recently (April 2007) Spent my first time in cambodia, but not my last time. I actually did not like so much, do not know why, maybe I have spent so much time in Thailand over the years, that I prefer I certan standard.

I have been to Thailand more than 40 times, I have a condo and a brand new car in Pattaya, and have a Thai girlfriend here in Norway. My Girlfriend and I, have lived toghether for more than 7 years now, and now I am getting really pist up about the hole situation. I have many Thai friends in Norway, and in Thailand. And know alot of people. I speak Thai, and now learning to read the shit too. Well as I have been there so much, and know all there litle secrets here in Norway, I have decided to Get the hell away from Thai people. In my city in Norway, I know about 200 Thai ladys, and ONLY 1 is a good lady, and thats NOT my girlfriend. This is no lie. All the others are out selling there bodys, lying to there husbands, playing cards, and talking lies with in there different groups, having huge fight with each other, involving knifes and broken botles. All of them have had contact with the local police, cause they have serius problems with anger managment. They have a fuse shorter than 1 mm. OK Many of them have bad husbands, but many of them have to good husbands too, the have 1 child togheter, and she have 3 more with 3 other Norwegian men, and he is staying home, paying for it all, while she is out, gambling away all the money she can find. They are lying to there husband, some times in the mobile, when I sit right next to them, and there husband is my friend, and she knows I speak Thai. She still will say " I stay with Thai friend" while she is with a new boyfriend. This have put me in many disturbing situations over the years, and now, I am just fed up with all of them. I have always thought that we must never judge a hole nation as the same, but now I have my doubts, I really think when it comes to Thai lady, about 95 % is the same. This is not my oppinion, but my experience.

So now to the question, as I sad before I did not really got the vibes in cambodia, but I REALLY loved the people, the smiles, there respect, and openes, and honesty.

I only spend 3 days there, so this is my first impression, and on my first day, meet this beutiful lady working in my hotel. We have since stayed in touch, and I can not forget her, now I am thinking of sell everything I have in Thailand, and stop going to that hell hole of a place. I am serius thinking of going down to cambodia, and take this lady back to Norway with me, and maybe later get married. I have never been married before, and turning 36 years now, I feel its about time.

As of cambodia, am I wrong about this, or are cambodian people much better than Thai people, or is it just me going to this country with me eyes shut?

What problem can I expect if married to a cambodian lady?

I doubt, it will be nearly as much as Thai ladies.

Is there anybody here who are married to a cambodian, and can give me a litle advice? In Return I can give advice on Thai ladies " Stay away, go on holiday with money, and live heart and brain home"

Sorry for any miss spelling, but english is not my first language, and this report was written in anger. But still true.

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Opebo
08-13-07, 15:04
Tomato Sauce Cock

...he.. gently massage[d] his own ..'After all, that is what he was used to do for many years and it still felt a lot better than sex with any woman in any country.

That's only because you're using condoms. Masturbation will obviously be superior to plastic sex, simply because there is actual sensation.

As for the blood in your semen - I've had that before, usually after flying. It will normally last at most a day or two. A friend of mine had the same problem from taking lots of ibuprophen over a long period of time. Basically what is happening is small hemorages, apparently in your sperm-manufactories.

You are quite correct, nothing to worry about, and certainly no reason to visit a doctor (though I will admit I learned what I reported above from one, though not without suspecting it myself beforehand).

Niknoy
08-14-07, 05:30
[QUOTE=Towoldse]I recently (April 2007) Spent my first time in cambodia, but not my last time. I actually did not like so much, do not know why, maybe I have spent so much time in Thailand over the years, that I prefer I certan standard.

I have been to Thailand more than 40 times, I have a condo and a brand new car in Pattaya, and have a Thai girlfriend here in Norway. My Girlfriend and I, have lived toghether for more than 7 years now, and now I am getting really pist up about the hole situation. I have many Thai friends in Norway, and in Thailand. And know alot of people. I speak Thai, and now learning to read the shit too. Well as I have been there so much, and know all there litle secrets here in Norway, I have decided to Get the hell away from Thai people. In my city in Norway, I know about 200 Thai ladys, and ONLY 1 is a good lady, and thats NOT my girlfriend. This is no lie. All the others are out selling there bodys, lying to there husbands, playing cards, and talking lies with in there different groups, having huge fight with each other, involving knifes and broken botles. All of them have had contact with the local police, cause they have serius problems with anger managment. They have a fuse shorter than 1 mm. OK Many of them have bad husbands, but many of them have to good husbands too, the have 1 child togheter, and she have 3 more with 3 other Norwegian men, and he is staying home, paying for it all, while she is out, gambling away all the money she can find. They are lying to there husband, some times in the mobile, when I sit right next to them, and there husband is my friend, and she knows I speak Thai. She still will say " I stay with Thai friend" while she is with a new boyfriend. This have put me in many disturbing situations over the years, and now, I am just fed up with all of them. I have always thought that we must never judge a hole nation as the same, but now I have my doubts, I really think when it comes to Thai lady, about 95 % is the same. This is not my oppinion, but my experience

As of cambodia, am I wrong about this, or are cambodian people much better than Thai people, or is it just me going to this country with me eyes shut

Is there anybody here who are married to a cambodian, and can give me a litle advice? In Return I can give advice on Thai ladies " Stay away, go on holiday with money, and live heart and brain home"

What kind of Thai woman has your friends chosen to date with, some men will go with these ladys like this, because the man wants to butterfly or go with other woman himself,

You have said yourself that you do know a nice thai lady.

As for cambodian woman some can be like Thai woman, I have dated a Cambodian woman, who in the end I told her that I was not in love with her, so I paid her money and never saw her again, I met one of her friends who works in sharky bar in Phnom Penh and said that she married a german man.

I went to send you an E mail but could not, I could have given you more information choc dee, nicknoy.

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Tcvve
08-14-07, 08:25
I am a Black American. Went over to Heart on Monday and was refused entry.
Just was told you cannot enter. Went there the previous week and had no problem getting in.

Either something occurred within that 1 week span or management feels too many minorities are frequenting the place and the demographic population of minorities are not in their best interest. When I have visited, there were quite a number of Africans customers. But their friendly chatting up the girls and other customers. Anyways, if someone is in PP now and has the “skinny” on what went down, I would appreciate it.

TC.

Sammon
08-15-07, 04:15
it is unusual to see recognisable blood in semen or [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109). please go to a doctor and get it checked out. it could be as simple as passing a stone or as serious as cancer.

DK Lee
08-15-07, 05:08
Last week, I went for a massage after a long over-land trip from Ho Chi Minh city, so surprise I saw a young and sexy russian girl there, I took her out to my hotel room just a few doors from there, clean and girl-friendly hotel Frangipani Villa, I had a 1 hour massage for only $6, then sex with her for another $30, she ask for $50, really great experience with russian girl at that price.

Yang Chou Massage - No. 28R, Street 252, Sangkat Chaktomuk, Khan Daun Penh, Phnom Penh.

Frangipani Villa - 20R, St. 252. Sangkat Chatomuk, Khan Daun Penh.

Have Fun.

DK Lee
08-15-07, 05:12
Sorry, I promised her to inform everybody her name is VICTORIA.

King Squared
08-15-07, 22:00
I have been to Thailand more than 40 times, I have a condo and a brand new car in Pattaya, and have a Thai girlfriend here in Norway. My Girlfriend and I, have lived toghether for more than 7 years now, and now I am getting really pist up about the hole situation. I have many Thai friends in Norway, and in Thailand. And know alot of people. I speak Thai, and now learning to read the shit too. Well as I have been there so much, and know all there litle secrets here in Norway, I have decided to Get the hell away from Thai people. In my city in Norway, I know about 200 Thai ladys, and ONLY 1 is a good lady, and thats NOT my girlfriend. This is no lie. All the others are out selling there bodys, lying to there husbands, playing cards, and talking lies with in there different groups, having huge fight with each other, involving knifes and broken botles. All of them have had contact with the local police, cause they have serius problems with anger managment. They have a fuse shorter than 1 mm. OK Many of them have bad husbands, but many of them have to good husbands too, the have 1 child togheter, and she have 3 more with 3 other Norwegian men, and he is staying home, paying for it all, while she is out, gambling away all the money she can find. They are lying to there husband, some times in the mobile, when I sit right next to them, and there husband is my friend, and she knows I speak Thai. She still will say " I stay with Thai friend" while she is with a new boyfriend. This have put me in many disturbing situations over the years, and now, I am just fed up with all of them. I have always thought that we must never judge a hole nation as the same, but now I have my doubts, I really think when it comes to Thai lady, about 95 % is the same. This is not my oppinion, but my experienceBefore you paint a population of over 60 million with that wide stroke of yours, think about where you are finding these girls?

You can take the girl out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of ther girl

Niknoy
08-16-07, 12:33
Before you paint a population of over 60 million with that wide stroke of yours, think about where you are finding these girls?

You can take the girl out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of ther girlThis was not written by me, it was written by Towoldse a man from Norway, my submit is at the bottom of this piece.

Mature Man
08-16-07, 13:07
Am glad to see that there are people in this forum who question what the Main Stream Media pushes down your brains.

And like they say- When the asshole shuts up- the body system blows. So keep talking. Dont ever stop.




Gentlemen,

If you have been shocked then that article has served it's purpose well. But do you always believe everything you read and hear?

1./Do you believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by "terrorists"?

2./ Do you believe that AIDS is actually an "illness"?

3./ Do you believe that smoking causes cancer?

If you do believe all those than you are like children.

Did you notice the name of the author? It is some "Carol" , - a woman. Did you notice who it was commissioned for? For USAID, a well known feminist "charitable" (charitable??) organisation. This organisation is run by people who in fact derive their income from the "charitable work" they do. The greater the shock, the greater the donations they receive (mostly from women). Especially if the story mentions "sex, abuse, evil men, etc".

These are the same people riding around Phnom Penh in Landcruisers and Lexus 4WD trucks. They receive 5 figure salaries, in dollars. Have a look at St. 240 and around in PP.

Please, be realistic. Couldn't we write a report to prove anything we want to prove? Even the total opposite as they did? Of course it could be done. If someone would pay me as much as they did get paid for it, I promise I will make a report just as long, just as convincing and full of "facts" that I gather - stating the exact opposite of it all.

Please be men and don't act like children. If you believe all that crap than legally you shouldn't be able to view this, because it's only for over 18's.

Killer condoms, my knee. Be real. It was written to shock and to raise more funds. Wake up, wake up. Are the feminists successful again in making us become total fools?

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Think, please think!

SoftLover
08-16-07, 15:14
I walked into La Cyrcée one Sunday at 18:00. Friendly place, friendly owner. The girls were getting ready for work and my favorite soon appeared dressed in a luscious robe.

From what I learned, http://www.4womenoftheworld.com is the culprit. Some American, it says, took pictures of girls from Sophie's, Walkabout and Mikado and published them on his site. The Cambodian authorities didn't like the publicity and threatened to close down these establishments. Two of them paid - and one didn't and is now closed. Now don't ask me how the city fathers should have known about this site, but that's the story I got and there may be many more. At any rate, there is no sign of any other crackdown.

There were many girls around trying to push very gently for a threesome, foresome or handsome, but me and my sweetheart stayed firm. I payed for the drinks and the fees for a short-time upstairs when the lights went off. A ten minute wait and I could convince my darling to move to my hotel. She chose the moto outside and we had a wonderful time until the morning. There is nothing like a warm, open, good smelling young body next to yours in the middle of the night.

Jaimito Cartero
08-18-07, 21:53
I tried searching, but couldn't find any info. I'll be coming to PNH in October, and usually get some shirts done in Bangkok. I'd prefer to keep the money in Cambodia if I can find a good quality/price in a local tailor.

If anyone has firsthand knowledge, I'd love to hear from them.

Niknoy
08-19-07, 00:17
I tried searching, but couldn't find any info. I'll be coming to PNH in October, and usually get some shirts done in Bangkok. I'd prefer to keep the money in Cambodia if I can find a good quality/price in a local tailor.

If anyone has firsthand knowledge, I'd love to hear from them.The free magazines in PNH bars have a [small] list of tailors.

it is nice of you to take your money to Cambodia, but Bangkok really is the best place to get your tailored shirts done.

Prince Harry
08-19-07, 02:47
In reply to towoldse re thai v cambodian women,in my experience the cambodians are vastly different.
I,too have observed a community of thai women in australia for more than 25 years.I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling,constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children.I know thai born kids in jail,dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.
I believe that the cambodians are missing many of the thai traits,some women gamble but the stakes are modest,they are less vain and self centred and less likely to blatantly lie.
In common with the thai is the responsability that they feel for the family and the family often take advantage of the working girl who has the capacity to earn good money.Less cambodian taxi girls have children,very few have tatoos and they spend far less on jewellry,makeup and their hair.
I took a cambodian girl to australia and the culture shock was as extreme as it is with a thai,they are not adaptable.
To me the cambodians character reflects their history of being sandwiched between the greedy thai and the voracious vietnamese.

Nite_Runner
08-19-07, 10:26
The free magazines in PNH bars have a [small] list of tailors.

it is nice of you to take your money to Cambodia, but Bangkok really is the best place to get your tailored shirts done.Ditto on the BKK Tailors... I travel to BKK once a year just to get suits made because of the quality and the price...

N_R

Towoldse
08-19-07, 10:35
Thanx man, just what I needed to hear, I think I will forfill my Cambodian "dream girl" and see what happend. My biggest problem amongst thai, is the lie and lie and lie. They soon forget what they lie about, so then come another lie. What can I expect from a Cambodian? You know? I am ready to help with family and all that, but I will not stand another lie. In my oppinion, I do not think Cambodian are the same as thai in this point. But what the hell do I know, I only been there for 3 days.


In reply to towoldse re Thai v Cambodian women, in my experience the Cambodians are vastly different.

I, too have observed a community of Thai women in Australia for more than 25 years. I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling, constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children. I know thai born kids in jail, dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.

I believe that the Cambodians are missing many of the thai traits, some women gamble but the stakes are modest, they are less vain and self centred and less likely to blatantly lie.

In common with the thai is the responsability that they feel for the family and the family often take advantage of the working girl who has the capacity to earn good money. Less Cambodian taxi girls have children, very few have tatoos and they spend far less on jewellry, makeup and their hair.

I took a Cambodian girl to Australia and the culture shock was as extreme as it is with a thai, they are not adaptable.

To me the Cambodians character reflects their history of being sandwiched between the greedy thai and the voracious vietnamese.

Niknoy
08-19-07, 10:38
In reply to towoldse re Thai v Cambodian women, in my experience the Cambodians are vastly different.

I, too have observed a community of Thai women in Australia for more than 25 years. I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling, constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children. I know thai born kids in jail, dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.

I believe that the Cambodians are missing many of the thai traits, some women gamble but the stakes are modest, they are less vain and self centred and less likely to blatantly lie.

In common with the thai is the responsability that they feel for the family and the family often take advantage of the working girl who has the capacity to earn good money. Less Cambodian taxi girls have children, very few have tatoos and they spend far less on jewellry, makeup and their hair.

I took a Cambodian girl to Australia and the culture shock was as extreme as it is with a thai, they are not adaptable.

To me the Cambodians character reflects their history of being sandwiched between the greedy thai and the voracious vietnamese. About 10 years ago i come into a bit of money,i went to Amsterdam which was OK, but boy when i went to Thailand i went nuts, throwing money at bargirls,

since the 1970`s this is what happend in Thailand, poor woman suddenly getting loads of money from sex tourist, and like you said there family`s take advantage of the girl which makes her act like she doe`s

Cambodia only came out of the Khmar Rouge since the 1970`s and is still developing, Cambodian goverment will not allow Gogo`s like Bangkok/pattaya, and of course you have vietnamese woman muscling in, in the night life

I have met a few cambodian woman that are a "little" like there Cambodian sisters, but you know, we all need to get money from somewere.

oh and by the way, i don`t have any money to go to SE asia next year, so if any mongers want to put a few thousand dollars my way, only joking mr jackson LOL.

El Greco
08-19-07, 13:19
Last week, I went for a massage after a long over-land trip from Ho Chi Minh city, so surprise I saw a young and sexy russian girl there, I took her out to my hotel room just a few doors from there, clean and girl-friendly hotel Frangipani Villa, I had a 1 hour massage for only $6, then sex with her for another $30, she ask for $50, really great experience with russian girl at that price.

Yang Chou Massage - No. 28R, Street 252, Sangkat Chaktomuk, Khan Daun Penh, Phnom Penh.

Frangipani Villa - 20R, St. 252. Sangkat Chatomuk, Khan Daun Penh.

Have Fun.


Nice report, thank you. Thinking for a side trip from BKK mid September.
Any further info on the hotel? Prices, Tel, pictures of the facilities etc?

Thanks

El Greco

Fast Eddie 48
08-19-07, 23:57
I tried searching, but couldn't find any info. I'll be coming to PNH in October, and usually get some shirts done in Bangkok. I'd prefer to keep the money in Cambodia if I can find a good quality/price in a local tailor.

If anyone has firsthand knowledge, I'd love to hear from them.To jamito,

Yes you can get a good deal and quality suite in Cambodia and bangkok but the best taylor is in Hong kong and singapore , I purchase 2 suite in bangkok a few yr ago they just don't fitted right , yes you can saved a few buck but why not spend a few more dollar it is still alot less than you pay in US .

Just my IMHO

Fast eddie 48

Benny09
08-20-07, 05:35
Generally speaking the Khmer people are more lay back and friendly than their thai counterparts, although they can get as pissed off as anyone can if you treat them badly. Acid attacks happen in Cambodia. We are all defined to a certain level by our experiances. Thailand was once a great place for a good genuine holiday. Times have changed for various reasons especially for mongers. The lies/scams are all to common. This is also true in Cambodia to a smaller extent. I have been lied to many times by girls but only the more harmless stuff like " I stay you long time ". This may/may not change in the futue as it did in Thailand. The common thread is they are all working girls with a limited time to make money. If you want a girl to marry then take your time and find yourself a non " working girl ".

Forever69
08-20-07, 10:39
Towoldse,

I read your post about the thai girls and your dream to get married to a Cambodian. I can only guess its a taxi girl of sorts since you only spent a few days here and are looking for a sex shop also. If you had a regular girl you would now teach her french kissing. From your thai experiences I deduct that you might not have the deepest understanding of the asian mentality and culture. Blaming everything on the thai liers is not the answer to your ignorance. The fact that you want to marry a girl you just met in April shows that you might not really know much about marriage and women in general. When people, and not just girls tell you things here the truth as you know it varies quite a bit. I find it hard to explain I've only been here 5 years myself but they have a different take on things like that. And not to screw you over necessarily. If you want to really be with them and enjoy it you have to be cool and learn how to be a player. Not just assume people are the same the world over. It is a very complex topic but to make it simple: you should not marry anybody unless you know them well, lets say 3 years or so and you know what you're getting into. On the other hand you should also understand that there has to be symmetry for it to work. If your girl is a lot younger and better looking than you you have to make up for it in cash. Take your time there is always a lot more where the last one came from. Avoid drama.

Jaimito Cartero
08-22-07, 15:14
To jamito,

Yes you can get a good deal and quality suite in Cambodia and bangkok but the best taylor is in Hong kong and singapore , I purchase 2 suite in bangkok a few yr ago they just don't fitted right , yes you can saved a few buck but why not spend a few more dollar it is still alot less than you pay in US .




I only need shirts, nothing more. I'm going to be in PNH, and was planning on not going out of the country. I've been to HK before, and the hard sell tailors there are not of my liking. Maybe their product is fine, but I'll never know, since they they're so aggressive trying to get you in the door.

I'm looking for a local PNH tailor. Got a recommendation?

Jaimito Cartero
08-22-07, 15:16
The free magazines in PNH bars have a [small] list of tailors.

it is nice of you to take your money to Cambodia, but Bangkok really is the best place to get your tailored shirts done.

Yeah, I know, but I'd rather not pay $200 to fly to BKK, stay a few days to get $200 worth of shirts made. Especially with the dollar/baht ratio these days.

Jaimito Cartero
08-22-07, 15:37
I always brough my repeat customers to tailors shops around independent manument along Sihanouk BLV. He's always satified with quality and prices. Everytimes he's in PP order 3suites, 10shirts, 3pants and 1 sarfary. So, I would like recomment that places to you. Sir.

Thank you! At least you didn't tell me to go to BKK! :)

Niknoy
08-23-07, 15:20
Yeah, I know, but I'd rather not pay $200 to fly to BKK, stay a few days to get $200 worth of shirts made. Especially with the dollar/baht ratio these days.I did not know that you was in PP, I assumed you was in Bangkok.

RonnieMonger
08-23-07, 17:15
I haven't been for a few months. But newbies to PP may be interested.

In Phnom Penh, this is my take after half-a-dozen trips (thanks to other posters who've sure helped me).

Stayed once in the place that used to be called the Sharaton Hotel (no relation to US chain. Name changed now anyway). Has a big gangster-style disco on main floor next to lobby. Really hot Vietnamese babes there waiting for the corrupt-rich-bureaucrat-son to arrive. Seriously. Body guards the lot. It's around the corner from what Phnom Penh. Needed ear plugs to sleep. But very GF.

Up side was I found a P4P girl at one of the bars on the roundabout by the what, took her back. Popped her twice that night. Sownside was I had be'fast with her and returned to the room to realise she stole the TV remote. Yes, the remote control for the TV. She seemed a reluctant shag. Maybe that's why she took an extra 'tip' on her way out the door. Also shows you how desparately poor some of these people are. I forget how much for LT but probably around 20USD

Another time I stayed at the Phnom penh Hotel. Quite an upmarket joint except for the Chinese sex tourists. Drunk, loud and spitting in the hallways. Sure there's where you want your tourism industry headed! Was with biz folks so didn't partake. I reckon it was GF though.

Another time I stayed at the Goldiana. A real fleebag used by NGO types etc. Had a VN girl from Martinis there. 20 USD LT. GF.

Sophies is the best though. Walk in sit down at the bar and they are giving you BBBJ at the bar and taking turns at it.

Chose two sisters! Yup. The palce had a side room. It was great. Hear it may be shut down. Check location on the other posts here.

Massage: Forget it. Unless others know better than me. You just get an expensive massage. Not worth it

RM

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Noman2
08-24-07, 00:56
Massage: Forget it. Unless others know better than me. You just get an expensive massage. Not worth it

RMThere is very good massage place in PP just cros the street from Flamingo hotel.

$10 for 1.5h

Phantomtiger2
08-27-07, 01:09
In reply to towoldse re thai v cambodian women,in my experience the cambodians are vastly different.

I, too have observed a community of thai women in australia for more than 25 years.I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling, constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children.I know thai born kids in jail, dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.In my long job career, I had the opportunity to work with some Thai people (both men and women) at my work site once in my life back in the states (I now live/work in Canada).

My impression: Fairly lazy bunch. Tried to do less than minimal work (just barely enough not to get fired). Made faces when you ask them to do a little extra to help as sometimes we all needed to fill in when others are either on vacation or out sick. This was just my own impression of the 5 or so Thais I had to work with, your experiences may vary. So, I'm not saying this reflects all Thais in general, just the ones I had to work with.


PT

Minimus
08-30-07, 08:16
I understand the going price for LT is about $20. What would you guys consider fair for a girl from a bar like Dollhouse, staying overnight for the course of a few days like a Pattaya girl?

Mind you she is getting meals and shampoo and all that other shit as a consequence of being my GF for the time being. Should the LT fee be the extent of it?

Kniom
08-30-07, 10:03
I understand the going price for LT is about $20. What would you guys consider fair for a girl from a bar like Dollhouse, staying overnight for the course of a few days like a Pattaya girl?

Mind you she is getting meals and shampoo and all that other shit as a consequence of being my GF for the time being. Should the LT fee be the extent of it?Two PP girls once gave me a number for (very) LT-Rate. One asked for 150$/month after being kicked out of her family's home. The other asked for 300$/month.

Both were freelancers mostly hanging out at Walkabout/Martini.

BangBangBang
08-30-07, 11:55
hi fellow mongers (and ngos)

trip after trip, i find pp a harder and harder place to monger. yes, there are the martinis (overpriced and mechanical service) and the in-room massages ($40 for fs, cbj), the few vietnamese brothels (100% chanced of getting your stuff stolen), occasional street walkers (drug users and smelly under-ams), the bbbj bars (russian roulette, a recipe for burning urinairy track). closing k11 was probably right, but we (mongers and probably ngos) know where to find exactly the same girls. it just moves to another place. a big waste of time and the wrong methods, of the goal is to address ****philia and drug abuse.

i support keeping children safe and avoid drug rampage, but what is going on with trying to stop the oldest business on the world? are the ngos in lack of usefull projects to tackle? what about people in need of clean water and energy? what about refugees? what about malaria, hiv, ? border crossings? orphans? . how come countries like thailand are able to manage well and cambodia not?

i feel disappointed when i find a nice 'guest house' with smiling service, even with my cambodian friends, but we get rejected because they are affraid i am an ngo and will report the place or other malicious threat.

or am i just in the wrong places or misunderstand the whole thing? ngos feel free to comment.

cheers.

bbb

Tcvve
08-30-07, 12:35
Nothings changed, although I am a regular the last few years. Brought a friend and got the usual sampling and offer for the back room. took her in worked the poll a bit more and then nailed her.

The girls are a mixed bag.

Cyrcee, took a set that bragged about the lesbian show they did , the one had a nasty white discharge and luckily for the other girl she just faked it by puttinjg her finger there and making load ass licking sounds which drew my attention to the scam.

Been great but after this I may or may not be back. Was told at the end my friend was waiting and was going to leave, so hurry and catch him, I was almost done and popped and got out. He was just relaxing and explained he had said no such thing. In fact still had a nearly full beer.

Best o' luck,

off to Sharkeys for a Burrito.

Barang

Sok Ok
09-05-07, 21:24
Very sad news guys, the lovely Srey Lisa from Barbados just passed away very suddenly 8 days ago from dengue fever.

She was one of my regular and I just had spent a very nice afternoon 2 days before she died. She was a nice fine girl, I just wanted to pay her a little tribute her, she really deserves it. Another shattered life in Cambodia...I never thought at that age she died suddenly.

Are you sure it's a dengue fever?

Member #3443
09-06-07, 01:19
There are 4 types of Dengue virus'. If you survive it the 1st time you gain immunity from that version of the virus, but it also weakens your resistance to the other 3 versions of Dengue.

Saint Jack
09-10-07, 05:45
I spent this last weekend in PP staying at Flamingo Hotel.

There is an ANZ Royal Bank ATM in hotel lobby, the hotel staff said it can dispense in both Riel & USD. Should be convenient to hotel customers.

On my arrival, I had my transportation thus did not use hotel's free pick-up service, I thought that this complimentary one way transfer is in either direction but found out that it is not the case.

When I checked out to go to airport, I was asked to pay for 7 USD transportation fee. Tried to argue that it supposed to be in eother way but the hotel staff insisted that it is free for only airport pick-up but not vice versa.

Nearby the hotel, there is a mini mart next to Shanghai bar supplying daily necessities and some snacks. But if more variety is sought then best bet is to go for the Sorya shopping center which is 5 minutes walking distance from the Flamingo.

The Lucky super market on ground floor of Sorya is big and probably has best stock of all imported food stuffs and daily necessities. I found price to be reasonable and the goods originated from various countries like China, Korea, Thailand, France, Germany, etc.

Food court on 4th floor of Sorya is not bad as well, it is the same type as those you would find in other Southeast Asian countries where you buy coupons and browse through 30-40 or so shops to buy and brong your food to look for table to dine yourself. It is a place where reasonably priced food can be found in better hygiene and in A/C area if you are tired with street side vendors or food in the market.

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Saint Jack
09-10-07, 06:53
As mentioned by several forum members, I found the So Cheat pharmacy loacted close to Central Market and the Sorya shopping center.

Latest price quoted for Kamagra was 2 USD / pack of 4 tablets and Zeagra 1.8 USD / pack.

Upon enquiring on bulk of 10 each, Kamagra dropped to 1.8 USD / pack and Zeagra 1.5 USD / pack.

Other pharmacies nearby quoted something like 2.5 - 3 USD.

PP is probably one of the cheapest place to get these pills IMHO.

Stew2
09-11-07, 01:36
As mentioned by several forum members, I found the So Cheat pharmacy loacted close to Central Market and the Sorya shopping center.

Latest price quoted for Kamagra was 2 USD / pack of 4 tablets and Zeagra 1.8 USD / pack.

Upon enquiring on bulk of 10 each, Kamagra dropped to 1.8 USD / pack and Zeagra 1.5 USD / pack.

Other pharmacies nearby quoted something like 2.5 - 3 USD.

PP is probably one of the cheapest place to get these pills IMHO.


Thanks Saint Jack - those posts have helpful info for visitors to PP. Do you know if the kamagra and zeagra are standardly available without Rx in Cambodia, or is that an under the table deal?

Lazy Lover
09-11-07, 02:04
I am returning to Phnom Penh mid october..ready to run wild again after 9 months! i have a new user name..but if you read about "S-ville teenybopper"
or this story: (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=937&page=22&pp=15)

You know I'm up to something good.

PM me if interested in beers, happy pizza, and bars.

Saint Jack
09-11-07, 03:58
Thanks Saint Jack - those posts have helpful info for visitors to PP. Do you know if the kamagra and zeagra are standardly available without Rx in Cambodia, or is that an under the table deal?As far as I know of or from my past experience, buying medicines in Cambodia never requires a prescription (in practice), though the law may regulate it? ( or not I don't know)

It's not like Thailand where there is enforced regulation on these medicine control thus you have to aquire it under the table, but in Cambodia pharmacies are openly selling it.

Prince Harry
09-11-07, 04:47
The flamingo only provide transport one way free,from the airport.the standard fee is $7 from the airport with a cab from there and the is the same price as the hotel charges.
Phnom penh now has a fleet of twenty metred,air con cabs.I think that it is a vietnamese company and it should be a big improvement for us here.

SoftLover
09-11-07, 08:27
Thanks Saint Jack - those posts have helpful info for visitors to PP. Do you know if the kamagra and zeagra are standardly available without Rx in Cambodia, or is that an under the table deal?No prescription needed. I saw some of these drugs even at Orange supermarket, including Apcalis (a generic of Cialis). I would stay away from the latter as it may be a fake or has probably lost its activity in storage. Cialis should be stored at temperatures below 26°.

Saint Jack
09-11-07, 18:10
Hopped on Air Asia for a weekend trip to Phnom Penh, stayed at Flamingo Hotel as usual at 20 USD / night.

Spending most of the day wandering around town for work related activities, but couldn't wait for the night to come down for more interesting activities.

Rented car with driver and went for dinner on the other side of Tonle Pasak river wehre there are tens of restaurants lying on both side of the road going out of town to Siemreap. My driver took me to one call "Tata" where they have stage with live band and singer, dancers entertaining the guest.

Food was OK with 3 dishes ordered to be shared by 2 costing almost 20 USD.

Upon heading back to town, requested for a stopover to pick up some night time companion. The driver stopped at a shophouse around 144th or 154th street not far from Flamingo.

There is pink neon light coming out from the house to give you some sort of hint that lady is provided inside. All girls are Vietnamese and they quickly lined up in chairs to let me scrutinize. Asked through the driver for price and was quoted 10 USD ST on the spot including A/C room upstairs and 50 USD LT.

I said there must be some misunderstanding as I never paid that much, finally settled for 30 USD LT but mamasan did not go lower as the night was still young (sometime after 9pm) so there is some opportunity cost in the price. Driver said it's posisble to come down to 20-25 USD if it is later in the night.

My companion of the night was not smiling much but has egg shaped face with hair partly highlighted to be light brown or like blonde. With my limited Vietnamese skill, I only manage to know that her name is Loen, 18 yearsold from Chau Doc. She seemed to be quite happy that I speak some Vietnamese, but that all I can speak and the rest of the night it was mostly action and sign language plus simple words like "Good!", "No Good!"

She happened to be more GF like than I thought; French kissing and that seemed to turn her on. It was good fun that we both enjoyed in various positions; the only drawback was when I asked for BJ and she said NO and YOU, NO GOOD!

I did not want to ruin the good atmosphere thus not pushing to go for BJ but still able to enjoy in other different ways. After the deed is done, she curled herself like a small kitten into my arm and used one of my arm as pillow while having my body wrapped around her. I felt just like lying with my girlfriend and she behaved like needing warmth from a man; it made me feel so good and we just slept like that.

Occasionally changing the pose but still hugging her in some way, sometimes I careless her and she responded to move closer to me. At one point, feeling that my little brother got aroused once again and she noticed that and we started kissing again and go for it.

Another good session and I checked my watch which said it's just before 5 am; I felt good that she did not refused or show any dissatisfaction for an early morning session like that. Probably she had the same feeling and enjoyed it too so that's why.

Sending her off in the morning and soon receive call from hotel clerk as usual

"Sir, your lady go home OK?"

"OK, no problem"

Went back to bed to get some more rest as I know that I have to spare energy for more actions when the night falls. To be reported in Part II to come.

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Saint Jack
09-14-07, 14:23
As I started this trip, I have the intention to try out new venues other than Martini or Sophie which I went last time; so the first night I got the driver took me to one of the lady house with all Vietnamese girls as in my earlier report.

The following night I didn't want to go too far from the hotel thus decided to try Shanghai bar just next to Flamingo. I got some suggestion earlier that girls there are not bad at all so wanna check it out.

Inside the bar there are small and large TV screens showing scoccer match, but since it's dark and I want to see girls clearer so I chose to sit in couches outside. Was escorted by a small and rather fair skin Khmer girl - Heng to the seat.

Ordered my beer - Angkor draft which is reasonably priced at 1.5 USD and started some chat with the girls as there were 2 who came to sit at my table.
One acted as translator as the other almost speak no English except for just a few words.

Small talk and sipping beer to while away time. I asked the girl who can speak English how much does the other one want if I want to take her back to my place. She purposedly say "Me?" and I said "No, the other one" and pointing to the one I am interested. So, she translated and exchanged a few words.

Then the girl asked her friend how to respond to my question in English "Up to you", so I took her words and soon after asked for the bill. Once the bill came and also another girl who speaks English to explain me that there is 5 USD bar fine to take out the girl, but the bar management usually not agree to bar fine giel if the bill is so little as mine (1 beer @ 1.5 USD), they are looking for more spending from customer before taking out thier girl. So, she advised me to take more beer or order ladt drink for the girl.

I thought for a moment and agreed as suggested, later to find out that lady drink (soft drink like cola, etc.) is more expensive than my drink @ 2 USD each.

Anyway, I felt OK with this as the girls did not impse or ask for lady drink even though sitting with me for an hour or so.

Finally we went back to the hotel and hugging and not much word spoken as we have language barrier. This is the girl who welcomed and escorted me to sit when I first got into the bar and the chemistry seems to be matching and lead to finally having her in my room, my sixth sense was not wrong for this; except for the breast which look like reasonable size was by the aide of some stuffing or so.

She showed me her ID card which indicates that she's 27 instead of 25 as she told me at the bar; I asked here about this and she smiled. As the chemisty was right, I think we both enjoyed and it was quite GFE.

Early morning my little brother stood up again so I went for the second session; but this is time it took quote long time (for me) more than 45 minutes of pumping from different angle by both her and me but I could not finish it. My first time ever that got so tired and called it quit without coming.

But we hugged again and I have to prepare myself to fly back, so gave her 100,000 Riels (around 25 USD) and kissed her goodbye.

Overall, my weekend trip to PP was very satisfactory on mongering aspect and I got on plane with my tired body but filled up feeling.

FritsVanegter
09-14-07, 15:35
Hello,

I will be visiting PP in december because I live in the Netherlands I wonder what is the easiest way for paying. Get $ in my country and pay things like hotels and girls with$ or just use atm over there and get Cambodian currency?

Thanks a lot in advance,

Frits

Happy Harry
09-14-07, 16:37
Fantastic report SJ. Thanks for the details.

I was wondering how do you go about asking for only viet brothels?

Do you simply say viet or is there a translation term.

Thanks,

Harry

Fast Eddie 48
09-15-07, 03:58
Hello,

I will be visiting PP in december because I live in the Netherlands I wonder what is the easiest way for paying. Get $ in my country and pay things like hotels and girls with$ or just use atm over there and get Cambodian currency?

Thanks a lot in advance,

FritsTo Frits,

Bring US currency or thai baht and carry small bill one dollar us or 20 baht for moto bike , there are a few bank in town will cash euro or traveler check but you will have a hard time .

Fast eddie 48

Blunderer
09-15-07, 04:00
There's a fair old range of ways of getting money in PP.

Bring cash as you suggest.

ATMs

Quite a few of the moneychanger types/banks will do cash advances on Visa/Mastercard paid out in $.

Basically treat it as a normal trip overseas and try and have a range of options available to you.

One thing that is unusual in Cambodia generally is that US$ are completely interchangeable with Riel. You even go to the supermarket with dollars or riel or a combination of both and get change back in dollars or riel or a combination of both (at random depending on what is in the till).

All shops, hotels, girls, fruit vendors in the market, taxis. Anyone in the country really, will treat $1 as 4000 riel and vice versa. The only exception to this is more formal places (bank, places with an electronic till that handle 2 currencies) where the exchange rate will be (I think) 3950 to 1.

For all intents and purposes, having a pocket full of Riel is a more voluminous way of having a pocket full of dollars.


Hello,

I will be visiting PP in december because I live in the Netherlands I wonder what is the easiest way for paying. Get $ in my country and pay things like hotels and girls with$ or just use atm over there and get Cambodian currency?

Thanks a lot in advance,

Frits

Kniom
09-15-07, 09:49
Don't change Euro to Dollars in Europe. If you get money (US$) via ATM-Card you get a much better exchange rate. Maybe depending on your Bank conditions. Don't even think about bringing cash Euro. You will lose about 10 cents per Euro due to horribly rates.

Saint Jack
09-16-07, 16:32
Fantastic report SJ. Thanks for the details.

I was wondering how do you go about asking for only viet brothels?

Do you simply say viet or is there a translation term.

Thanks,

Harry

In fact I did not specify to look for only Viets, but the place my driver took me to have only Viets.

I think most people there understand if you say Viet girls or Khmer girls.

FritsVanegter
09-16-07, 21:37
Hello,

I was thinking that because of the weak position of the dollar in relationship to the euro getting dollars in the netherlands would be the cheapiest way. The cambodian banks have to pay these dollars i will get from their atm by paying them with their own currency. Or will it be cheap because in fact i am taking money from my own account and the Cambodian bank just works like a kind of agency.

Yours sincerely,

Frits

Logos
09-17-07, 02:46
If some of you guys are coming to PP in early october and want to hook up, feel free to PM me.

Logos
09-17-07, 09:48
Frits,

I'd advise you to buy $$ in Holland. Cash is king, and you'll need lots of small notes such as $1 and 5. You can easily break the big notes at hotels etc or even at most bars.

When I'm in Cambo (twice a year for about 15 yrs) I use several pockets, one for larger notes (50/100), one for mid range (5/10/20) and one for monopoly money (riel/$1). When you go out at nights take max $50 with you unless you plan a night of boozing & partying away from your hotel.

Butt Ugly
09-17-07, 14:22
Usually what I do for money is go to a full service ANZ bank during business hours and use the ATM. Not sure why but there is no user charge to my account. The ATM will pay out in $20 and $50 dollar bills. Then I take my money to a window and ask to have it changed into mostly $10 dollar bills with some $5. Smaller bills seem to be less hassle in the markets and I don't need to always be breaking larger bills into smaller.

Another thing I do is get $10/$20 changed into 1000 R notes for use on the street and for moto rides. The ANZ on the Riverfront around the corner from ST 148 works well for me.

Will be returning to PP in about two weeks and wondering if Sophie Bar is the same ? I read that they closed, then they didn't operate at the bar the same as before. Anyone been there lately?

Prince Harry
09-18-07, 13:53
Very quiet here at the moment,mid september must be the slowest time of year for barang.
The word for vietnamese is yuon,it is derogatory but it is the word that the khmer use-srey youn=vietnamese woman or women.
Sophies is open but the word around town is that sophies,mikado and le cyrcee have had to introduce a BYOB policy.
There is a police crackdown because of NGO pressure and beds have had to be removed from premises,hence bring your own bed.
Hopefully our favourite couch will survive.

Dinghy
09-18-07, 14:37
Pretty much you need 1s and 5s with of course a 20 if you fly in. Myself, I go with a thick pile of bills (but all 1's - maybe 300 of them, a few 5's and that all important 20) new if you can get them, otherwise with no tears or worn too much.

10 or 20 in real is enough - and the restaurant prices are not quoted in $ anyway, so you will be spending it

The reason you might have not been charged is because the machine dispensed $$ (you American by any chance? - most US banks that have free withdrawals from ATMs don't charge if the currency is dispensed in $$)

Beds at Mikado aren't on premises anyway - how could they make them stop? It's a hotel with a separate payment

Prince Harry
09-23-07, 10:58
Just seen the flamingos van disgorge a record nine customers fighting over a few rooms.A couple of chaps complained that they had booked but never received the return email,sorry that's not a booking then.
One pommy bloke was muttering that he would never stay here again...
Can't say that he'll be missed,occupancy here is 90% plus all year round now.
Don't just assume that you can turn up and get a room even at this time of year,things change.
This is another community service announcement on behalf of mr kim.
PS don't worry about having riel,riel is given as change for small amounts.The ATMs do NOT dispense riel.

El Greco
09-23-07, 17:22
Just seen the flamingos van disgorge a record nine customers fighting over a few rooms.A couple of chaps complained that they had booked but never received the return email,sorry that's not a booking then.
One pommy bloke was muttering that he would never stay here again...
Can't say that he'll be missed,occupancy here is 90% plus all year round now.
Don't just assume that you can turn up and get a room even at this time of year,things change.
This is another community service announcement on behalf of mr kim.
PS don't worry about having riel,riel is given as change for small amounts.The ATMs do NOT dispense riel.

Got instand reservation last Tuesday for Wednesday morning which I changed on Wednesday morning for the same evening with no problem.
Checked out today early morning.

As a newbie in town I had to try Sophies. No beds only matresses on the floor. Had to pay $10 to have the job done but I made it last for ever.

Didn't liked the girls at Shangai. They all looked like kids to me. Monkey kids to be precise. Not my cup of tea. It seems that I am spoiled too much from the latinas.

Thanks

El Greco

Jaimito Cartero
09-23-07, 23:45
As a newbie in town I had to try Sophies. No beds only matresses on the floor. Had to pay $10 to have the job done but I made it last for ever.

So I take it that Sophie's has reopened? $10 is the price if you get a room, or $5 if you let them just blow you at the bar.

Logos
09-24-07, 00:46
So I take it that Sophie's has reopened? $10 is the price if you get a room, or $5 if you let them just blow you at the bar.Business as usual, less the bedframes.. same thing as LCC, Mikados wasn't affected.

To be accurate the usual going rate at the bar is $1/head (litteraly:-) but as 4 or 5 of them take turns, your rate is right on.

Stew2
09-24-07, 07:22
Business as usual, less the bedframes.. same thing as LCC, Mikados wasn't affected.

To be accurate the usual going rate at the bar is $1/head (litteraly:-) but as 4 or 5 of them take turns, your rate is right on.
well, it's $1/head as a tip for samples.... but the whole deed is as Jamito said - $5 - or at least it was last tme I was there (admttedly a while ago).

More importantly, it's good news that Sophie's is open!

BananaNl
09-24-07, 16:50
What is the deal on LCC now without beds?

- matresses like Sophies
- to your hotelroom
- to the hotel which you use for Mikado's ($?)
- Other

Logos
09-25-07, 01:02
this is a copy of a report i posted on another board last december and that could be of interest to newbies and expats alike if you take the occasional motodop at night.

2 nights ago after a romp with the gf she fell asleep and i went out for a quick bite at martinis (why is it you're often famished after sex in the middle of the night). i hailed a motodop on str 63 to go north towards mao tse toung. it was late at night, about 1 am.

i was tired after a gruesome day and didn't notice it fast enough -more accurately i noticed something was awry but didn't react fast enough- when he swerved right then left and took street 95, that runs parallel to monivong.

that long street was pitch dark and totally deserted.

when he slowed down after another lone motodop came from the opposite direction i was fully awake. i jumped off and tried to walk away fast in the opposite direction but it was too late, we were too far out from the lights.

they followed me slowly and shouted something in khmer so i then turned around and walked back towards the guy handing out his fare - take your fucking 2000 riel - but by that time 2 other motos had arrived in my back with 3 guys on them.

shit, was that for real ? was i going to be beaten to a pulp, stabbed to death, gang-raped and left out bleeding ?

i could and probably would have taken 1 against 2 but against 5 the odds didn't seem too good. at least one of them was also carrying some kind of baton. so i just stood still and made no sudden moves while they were circling me then nervously going through my pockets. they deftly relieved me of the day's change, around $50-60. left me my keys. stole the brand new watch i'd bought in china last week, a magnificent omega with a real leather brown bracelet. bastards, i was down another 5 buck.

even showed khmer compassion when they handed me back the 2000 riel for a ride back to the appartment. i thought i heard the words in khmer "be careful on the way home" and muffled laughter. then they were gone.

the whole episode must have lasted 2-3 minutes, but it felt like slow motion.

no amount of pepper spray or weapon, short of a subcompact machine gun, would have changed anything, actually not carrying anything probably avoided a bad beating or more. i had never been mugged before in my life (except once in pre-giuliani nyc when it was a routine event so that doesn't count) so i consider myself lucky to have lost just a small amount of money. for once i didn't carry either cellphone nor camera, which would have amplified my loss tenfold.

will i avoid motodops in the future?

no, but i'll certainly be cautious and alert at all times and jump off much faster at the first hint of foul play.

does that make pp or cambo an unsafe place?

not more than your average 3rd world city. just keep your eyes open, play it as safe as possible, and direct your motodops rather than being led by them.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Kniom
09-25-07, 09:09
During the last 3 years I spent about 15 months in PP. Twice I had problems with attempted muggings. One happened at 3 am when 2 ladyboys approached on a motorbike. Well why did I walk on one of the unpaved side roads near Sharky's at that time. Stupid just to save 2000 riel for the ride to Walkabout. Got out of the situation by making use of the "surprise effect" and knocking out one of them and hit the road immediately afterwards.

Second time was quite more surprisingly. Went to Walkabout at 10pm when one single guy came right towards me and hit me without any warning or hesitation just 20m off Rue Pasteur. Fortunately I stumbled but didn't fell. So I just shouted at him like being a stone-age man facing a mammoth. Maybe he felt intimidated by that but he turned around an ran like being chased by a pack of bull terriers. Never saw him again.

In any other areas (Siem Reap, Battambang, Snooky etc.) luckily nothing like that happened at all.

Butt Ugly
09-26-07, 15:44
I've lived in PP off and on for the last year and half. Three times I've had incidences occur. The first time a friend and I were walking towards Sharky Bar from Indochine Restaurant and had 6 young males come up behind my friend and try to circle around him. I yelled for him to "watch his back" and we backed up against a wall. They left us alone when they saw we were ready to go at it. The second time I was getting on a moto, and there was a girl already setting on the moto. A street rat reached up to grab her gold chain and I got it first. He walked away like nothing happened. The last time I was ripped off at the beach. The child vendors will take you down in a heartbeat. They were all around us and I saw a local I knew and got up to speak to her. That fast they emptied the pockets of the shorts I had lying on the table. Now, I don't let them close to where I set and I put my stuff up in the spokes of the umbrella when I set on the beach. In PP I try to only use motodops from the neighborhood, I have there numbers in my phone or motos that hang out in front of where ever I need a ride from. Seldom will I use a moto that stops me on the street and asks if I need a ride. The motos in front of places seem to be more traceable if something happens.

At night I try not to travel alone. If I'm out and about I will have a driver I know and usually have him wait for me. Again I use some one that I know and is traceable. It helps if I treat him right, that way he will look out for me.

Montecristo
09-27-07, 12:50
Last year seemed perfectly safe, but perhaps i was simply unconscious and lucky, always picking the first motodop available.

Its true , at night with almost no light in the streets, the environment seemed a little bit "strange", but i never felt in danger.

In Brazil i thought about safety everytime, but everything seemed calm in PP.

It will be important to receive more reports from mugging, because PP can become very fast a dangerous place to visit.

Prince Harry
09-29-07, 01:31
Is it safe,hell no.
Everywhere you go the girls are trying to take your pants off,who knows what may happen next.
Only last night we were in sophies and a man was being attacked by several girls,it was shocking the things they were doing to him-there should be a law against it.

Ekspat
09-29-07, 02:39
Only last night we were in sophies and a man was being attacked by several girls,it was shocking the things they were doing to him-there should be a law against it.
What the girls do in Sophies is clearly sexual harassment.
I just want to have a beer at the bar and what happens?
Everytime the same...... :D
We should get them to court. :D

Cheers!

Member #3443
09-29-07, 12:26
Agree, the motos like in front of the Himawari Hotel want repeat customers. They will take care of you. I have used the motodop named Tim who works out front of the Himawari extensively, especially at night. He takes me to all the places I want to go safely and waits for me outside. When I get outside a bar or MP he revs right up and makes sure another moto doesn't get me. He took me on all well lit streets etc.. at night. I have never had a problem because I used him. Another I used was outside of Island Massage on Sisowath Quay. Again, took me where I wanted to go, waited for me and used well lit streets. Get to know one , keep his cell, and call him when you need him.

Tim Bone
09-29-07, 16:26
It's a year ago since I was there now and I never encountered any problems. But when I went out to hit the bars I actually hired the guy with the tuk-tuk outside Flamingos to take me around for a few hours. It was raining a bit. Negotiated 10 USD. It's worth paying some extra $ for the added safety. And it was quite convenient when I left Sharkeys with my catch to have a transport waiting for me. No need to haggle with the motos outside. Especially if you are two hunting together a tuk-tuk may be a good choice. Also paid one of the motos 10 USD to take me around to all the tourist spots for a whole day at daytime. One evening I took a cyclo back from FCC to the hotel. Nothing happend, but I really felt exposed sitting there in this slow moving mode of transort.

El Greco
09-29-07, 18:20
So I take it that Sophie's has reopened? $10 is the price if you get a room, or $5 if you let them just blow you at the bar.

i had to pay $10 for the room. Tried to negotiate several times with no luck. Paid $2 for a rum & coke and gave another $2 to the attackers. Don't think I could have done it in the bar. Doesn't work for me like that.

El Greco

Jaimito Cartero
09-29-07, 18:26
If there any of you guys that are in pp now and staying or visiting the flamingo hotel, could you ask them to email me, as i am unable to get a email to them. It comes back "unknow host".

I would like a room for the 21st November to depart on the 25th Nov, with wi-fi std room. if you are about pm me and i will give my email address!


When I sent my email confirmation earlier this week, it sent an email authentication back that I had to reply to before my email was forwarded to them.

El Greco
09-29-07, 18:27
Spent 4 days there last week. Hired tuk-tuks from outside Flamingos or the nearby shopping mall with no problems.

Need caution in the nights. Use a known driver and don't worry for some extra bucks spent. Safety comes first.
No reason to spoil your vacations at the least.

Thanks

El Greco

Jaimito Cartero
09-29-07, 18:27
i had to pay $10 for the room. Tried to negotiate several times with no luck. Paid $2 for a rum & coke and gave another $2 to the attackers. Don't think I could have done it in the bar. Doesn't work for me like that.

$10 for the room and girl, or a total of $15?

Michael 1973
09-29-07, 20:03
Hi all,

I will go begining next year first time to cambodia and pp. Are there websites about the girls and are there apartment girls like in HK?

Ty for help,

Michael

Franckbon
09-30-07, 11:09
Hi,

Is it possible to buy a sim card in Pnom Penh. If not,is it possible to buy international phone cards to use in public phones.

Thanks

Hummer Bird
10-01-07, 01:41
Hello a friend of mine travel a lot and he has just told me Cambodia and Vietnam are the best countries for mongering and fucking. I mean fucking with passion, I don't like mechanical sex of Pattaya. I don't know Cambodia or Vietnam, could you tell me if where it is easier to fuck regular girls? I need to know a country very easy to fuck regular girls and cheap.

I thank youI spent two months there this summer, with an entire month in Vietnam. Vietnam sucks for getting chicks. Very expensive, hard to find, massage parlors are a complete rip-off (unless you love uninspired hand jobs). I traveled all over Vietnam and was completely disenchanted with the girl scend when compared to Cambodia and Thailand. Now I do not enjoy spending hours talking and courting girls, so if you do maybe you would have better luck in Vietnam than I did.

Nonetheless the V girls when pretty are stellar compared to the Cambodian'ss and Thai's. Vietnam nature is gorgeous, so if you need a break check it out.

Lee66
10-01-07, 05:26
You can buy sim card from phone shop with ID it can be complicated, better yet buy one from a girl or moto driver (need to give tip). International phone cards available may be easyer to use an internet phone at an internet cafe. Some have high quality others not.

NanaHawk
10-01-07, 06:25
Hi,

Is it possible to buy a sim card in Pnom Penh. If not,is it possible to buy international phone cards to use in public phones.

Thanks

Hi Franckbon,

buying a SIM card in Cambodia used to be very difficult but things have changed......
I read that there is a new 'tourist' SIM card that can be bought easily. I have never investigated as I have my own but I recall that it is only valid for one month (as would be sufficient for most tourists).

I did recently buy a SIM card in one of the small phone shops and it was as painless as would one would hope. 'Enter shop' | 'Select Number' | 'Pay' | 'Buy Top Up' and leave.

One of the strange things about SIM cards in Cambodia is that they expire after a period of non-usage. This presents problems to some infrequent visitors and should be looked at closely if you plan using a card repeatedly.

Another option would be to 'rent' a SIM card - try the hotels for this service. An advantage of this might be that you receive calls from girls from the moment you switch on your phone!!!!

I have not detailed the hotels or shops that can specifically help you as they are providing an illegal service and there is no guarantee of who is reading this but asking questions quietly of other mongerers when you arrive will provide the detail you require.

Hope this helps
Hawk

El Greco
10-01-07, 06:54
$10 for the room and girl, or a total of $15?

I was attacked by 3 girls as soon as I entered the place. The rest 3-4 of them were occupied to two other customers.

I ordered a Cuba libre and I choose the one giving the best blow. She told me several times that the price was now $10.
I did't buy it but it was 21:15 raining and I had to go before 22:00 to the Titanic restaurant on the beach front for dinner. Highly recommended for its location. Their kitchen closes at 22:00. So I gave up.

So my final cost was 10 for the girl 2 for the drink and another 2 to the other two attackers. Total $14. No big deal.

Check your PM's for more tips.

El Greco

Blunderer
10-01-07, 08:49
Actually, I've never found it that hard... the trick seems to be to comply with the letter of the rules rather than the spirit of them.

The rules are something along the lines of SIMs can only be given to residents who can prove their address. It seems that technically you are resident the moment you check into a hotel. Just get the hotel management to print a letter saying 'XX has been living in this hotel since <date>' where date can be today.

Armed with letter and passport, head down to one of the phone company offices in PP (I couldn't get the little shops to sell me one). Smile politely, tell them you have proof of address etc and $10 or so later, you'll have a shiny new SIM.

I have heard about the tourist SIMs mentioned below, but, from what I heard, calls are ridiculously expensive on the tourist SIMs (and they ain't that cheap in Cambodia to start with). I am happy to be corrected if this last is not true.


Hi Franckbon,

buying a SIM card in Cambodia used to be very difficult but things have changed......
I read that there is a new 'tourist' SIM card that can be bought easily. I have never investigated as I have my own but I recall that it is only valid for one month (as would be sufficient for most tourists).
Hawk

Bold Focker
10-01-07, 10:44
Pre pay card are of no use, as in PP they do not have public phones. If you want to make a call, you have to go to these glass boxes with number on at side of path. Say to the guy you want to make a call, he will call the number on his mobile and then charge you accordingly.
as previously stated local sim you need id (I got my driver to get one and gave him a $1) but it is expensive, it cost me $25 with top up!

sofies has always been $10 for room and girl. BBJ at bar used to be $1. last time i went in June they wanted $3, I said no and gave them $2. lets face it you don't want to over pay do you!

Never been to Vietnam, but reading post i heard it is expensive.
From my experience in PP and snooky the Vet girls are more money orientated, but i do find them more appealing as they are generally on the slimmer build. Cheapest place to monger imho is cambodia, then phils, thailand. best gfe in order phils, thailand then cambodia.
but it all depends on who you meet and how you treat them!

Godd luck

will be in PP 21st nov if anyone about!

Bold Focker
10-01-07, 13:50
problem sorted, I was already booked in, but i never received thier email!
looks like one of our servers were down at some point!

BF

[QUOTE=Bold Focker]If there any of you guys that are in pp now and staying or visiting the flamingo hotel, could you ask them to email me, as i am unable to get a email to them. It comes back "unknow host".

I would like a room for the 21st November to depart on the 25th Nov, with wi-fi std room. if you are about pm me and i will give my email address!

thanks BF

Saint Jack
10-01-07, 17:08
Hi,

Is it possible to buy a sim card in Pnom Penh. If not,is it possible to buy international phone cards to use in public phones.


There are public payphones using prepaid IC chip phone cards, not as many as in other countries but usually you would find them around markets like Central market, Russian market and at the post offices. There are 2 provider of these phone booths :
- EasyCard having phone cards in 3, 5, 10, 20 USD
- UGR (?) with phone cards of 2, 5, 10, 20 & 50 USD (at post offices)

If your call is just for domestic, then look for the small booth with large font numbers of 011, 012, 016 with operator sitting. They will dial the number for you using their mobile phones for 300 Riels / minute from their cell phones.

For international call , try look for internet cafe which very often provide internatinal calls using voice over IP thus making the call much cheaper than through conventional phone. Instead of paying over 1-2 USD / minute from public phones, the rate would drop to something like 1,000 Riels / minute (0.25 USD) but depending on country you are calling to.

SIM card can be bought, just ask any local to get one for you. But if your stay is not long enough it may not justify the cost.
Once a locals moto driver near the hotel used to offer his spare SIM for me to use so I can become his regular customer; calling him to pick me up whenever I need a lift. Not a bad marketing tool, huh?


SJ

ParnellCat
10-02-07, 13:14
It was over 10 years ago since I first found myself in 63 St and even though I pass through Phnom Penh on business I haven't mongered along that path for years. But a few nights ago I found myself with a bit of time on my hands so I thought I'd go for a walk.

So after a big rain shower I set off.

It was dark and suspect in a way that only PP can be and fuelled by cialis I found myself happily sprinkling 5 and 10 dollars in buildings with the ambience of toilet blocks.

Visited a couple of places filled with Vietnamese girls and a couple with Khmer. One place wouldn't let me in saying " Khmer men only. "

So kept walking.

Anyhow found myself at one filled with Viet girls and saw one I liked, about 20 yrs old I'd guess. She had a straight cut Cleopatra fringe and longish hair.

So we climb up the stairs to the room and automatically she wants me to hang my pants by the door.

Now I fell for that trick years ago so I thought lets see what happens, because unlike then, now I can speak Vietnamese well enough and I hadn't let on.

I asked her name and she said 'Chim', which means pussy in Vietnamese but I didn't say anything, although admired her sense of humour.

In English I say, "Hello Chim".

She smiles a little cold wry smile and I put my pants under the pillow.

In the room one wall is a sliding frosted window panel with some small holes (eye holes) and I see a small eye appear and disappear as I'm looking straight at it. So I hang my T shirt over the hole.

Next thing the 2 girls start talking, yelling to each other in Vietnamese. Here's the conversation between the girls.

Girl outside.

He hide the holes.

Girl inside. He put pants under pillow.

Girl outside.

Give him massage.

Girl Inside.

He doesn't want.

Girl outside.

Sit on his face.

Me thinking. Now you're talking.

Girl inside. O. K

Girl attempts to sit on face but I reach under the pillow and move the pants to end of bed under my feet.

Lights go out.

Girl inside. He move pants to feet.

Lights go on.

Me. (in Vietnamese). Enough now. Do Mar moi sau! (phonetic like the Vietnamese, not literal)

Translation: MotherfK. G Liers.

Actually this can be pronounced 2 ways, one jokingly, one, threateningly, but I used the joking expression. A warning this expression said the wrong way would get you severely harmed in the wrong company.

Me: Now. He wait to catch you by door with big net. .

Huge silence.

Girl inside. Western man speak Vietnamese!

Girl outside: Western man speak Vietnamese?

Me: Western man speak Vietnamese when he about to be robbed.

Then: Long stream of too fast for me to understand conversation between the 2 girls.

Me: Come in I give you $ 1. 00.

More too fast, excited, very loud conversation between girls.

Me. He very nice man and you sound like a very beautiful girl.

Maybe I give you 2 dollars.

Girls now laughing.

Door opens a little.

Me: Come in I won't bite.

I was expecting a battle hardened Vietnamese pro but in comes the sweetest thing, who I hadn't seen at the showroom downstairs. Again about 20 years old.

So I offer an extra $5 for her but she says her boss says $10 for foreigner.

Me: But foreigner who speaks Vietnamese $ 5. 00.

So we haggle in Vietnamese, laughing now, and I agree to $6. 00

What followed after was an incredibly good session. Largely I think because the girl outside was so pumped with adrenaline at the whole almost being caught thing. To cut a long story short, they never admitted to what was obviously going on. So I talked about how other girls did it, the pocket robberies and they opened up a little about 'the other girls' activities.

Not all of them do it, just some. For some of the girls it's seen as a legitimate bonus as none of these girls are there by choice. They have to share any bonus with the touts if the touts find out.

Actually it was a fun experience but it shows 2 of the golden rules of mongering:

1, Never monger with anything you're afraid to lose, as you'll almost certainly lose it.

2, If you can, learn to speak the language.

On the way out they asked me my name.

I said. "Coo. "

It means cock.

Then "Coo yeu Chim".

Yeu means love.

They laughed a lot.

Jaimito Cartero
10-02-07, 19:00
That's a nice story, PC. I've never been ripped off by a chica inside a room, but am always pretty careful with where my money is. When I'm smart (about 80% of the time), I only take $40-$50 with me.

Bold Focker
10-03-07, 10:07
I have never been down 63 str, but as a matter of interest, can you take girls back to your hotel?
I did two girls in sofies last year, only cause the friend i was with, went into a room. It was not a plesent experience, It was musty, dark and i would hate to think what the mattress would have looked like under close inspection? I could not bring myself to look!
I can only assume 63 street is the same or worse!
I do prefer the comfort and safety of my own hotel!

BF

Phantomtiger2
10-04-07, 00:15
I have never been down 63 str, but as a matter of interest, can you take girls back to your hotel?
I did two girls in sofies last year, only cause the friend i was with, went into a room. It was not a plesent experience, It was musty, dark and i would hate to think what the mattress would have looked like under close inspection? I could not bring myself to look!
I can only assume 63 street is the same or worse!
I do prefer the comfort and safety of my own hotel!

BF


From my past experiences (about a year ago so things might have changed by now), some but not all the places will allow some (again not all) the girls to be taken out. I guess their best money makers are not allow out unless its very late at night--just a guess. Of course ,It will cost more for take out.
Although I did ask about take out I never did so and I have to warn anyone not to do so because most of them were trying to steal from me while I was in their room, so can't even imagine what they will do if you took them back to your well stocked hotel room. Best free advice I can offer, don't do it.


PT

ParnellCat
10-04-07, 06:11
Phantomtiger, Yes you can take girls out in most places but not all. Boldfocker's comments are right. Everything is negotiable for the right price and there are some genunely nice girls to be found. The risk in your hotel room I think is probably much the same as any working girl you take back.

I saw one girl I wanted to take short time but she's already been booked long time.

Logos
10-06-07, 09:58
For information, all places are open and business as usual at Mikados and La Cyrcee (didn't check out sophies).

Mikado $15 girl included
LCC $15/girl + $4 for the room.

I prefer the rooms at mikados but the girls from LCC are more fun and generally had better experiences there.

Jaimito Cartero
10-06-07, 21:16
In most cases, I'd prefer taking a girl out, as opposed to doing the deed on a worn out bed, up a bunch of flights of stairs. Is the take off fee the normal price, or are you paying a surcharge?

I'd be most interested at Sophie's and La Cyrcee, since those are places I'm familiar with. I can't say I was that impressed with Martini, when I went last year.

Gangles
10-06-07, 23:19
Last time I asked, the takeout fee for sophies was $30. I was sorely tempted, because I had just had the most remarkable blow job from a real stunner, just started there.

G

Jaimito Cartero
10-06-07, 23:28
Last time I asked, the takeout fee for sophies was $30. I was sorely tempted, because I had just had the most remarkable blow job from a real stunner, just started there.



$30 was for TLN? Probably worth it. If for just an hour or two, probably not. Thanks for the "heads" up.

Prince Harry
10-08-07, 14:23
Takeout fees at cyrcee and mikado are $7,I doubt the $30 at sophie but may depend on the time of night.

FreakFunk
10-08-07, 21:30
Since the brothel town has closed are the girls moved anywhere else? Where do you find fresh meat in Cambodia? I hvae never been but I am thinking about it. I would like nice fresh girls and nice bodies.

Dinghy
10-09-07, 10:28
I sort of thought the words "stunner" and "Sophies" were mutually exclusive

FreakFunk
10-09-07, 20:20
Is the above good? I read Svay Pak has reopened. What is Marini's like? Stickman said he hates it because the girls are as young as 12 is this correct?

Phantomtiger2
10-11-07, 00:58
Phantomtiger, Yes you can take girls out in most places but not all. Boldfocker's comments are right. Everything is negotiable for the right price and there are some genunely nice girls to be found. The risk in your hotel room I think is probably much the same as any working girl you take back.

I saw one girl I wanted to take short time but she's already been booked long time.


Yes, I already mentioned not all places will allow all their gals to be taken out, of course everything can be bought but I was just referring to the fact may not be able to do so at the usual rates, but if willing to pay 5-10x normal prices will get you any gal.

Just to clarify, there is a big difference in what the original question was asking, as I've taken gals from other well known bars back to hotel overnite and never had a problem. Difference is that the St 63 brothels (original question)and street hookers are taught to outright steal from you. I should know as they have tried this stunt often from me. Just read my past reports on this subject.

Regardless of who you take out, take care. But known and honest bars with their gals are usually safer as the bosses will not tolerate stealing from their workers. They don't want to earn a bad rep. So the risk factor is very different depending on where and who the gal is working for.--IMO


PT

Ljohnson
10-11-07, 03:25
I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.

But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.

Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?

Prince Harry
10-11-07, 04:49
There is no K11 anymore,but plenty of chicken farms throughout the country.Also plenty of cheap brothels but most only an option if one can speak some khmer.
The city is eeerily quiet at the moment for the climax of the fifteen day pchum ben festival.Many establishments are closed and others lightly staffed as many khmer go home to the village.They go to the temple early this morning to leave food for the wandering souls of people who haven't been reincarnated.
The slaughter of people in the KR years means there must be many of these unfortunates.In vietnam it is worse because there are at least 100,000 missing from the war years,victims who were never given a burial.
The americans whinge about a handful of missing and never consider the huge number of vietnamese who suffered due to the invasion of their homeland.

Asian Rain
10-11-07, 07:05
I visited Phnom Penh this year in January. My friend and I decided to visit the place just to see what is there. To give an indicator, it took us three tries just to find a moto driver who even knew where k11 was located! As a location, the place is still physically there, but the brothels are CLOSED. The pool hall, the cafes and the Home Away From Home restaurant are all closed. So many memories I had of sipping Vietnamese coffee between shags. All history now.

YES, if you walk around you might be able to find some girls on offer, but the situation where you had 4-5 houses offering 10-20 girls each at US$5/pop are definitely gone. Any service you are going to get is going to be a hurried session in one of the houses off the main street and you will be humping on top of a straw mat. There is simply no advantage to making the long moto ride out to k11 for that level of experience, especially when there are so many nice options in the city.

That's the true status of this FORMERLY interesting and rather bizarre place.

I do hear that there are other close-to-k11 type places popping up, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of information sharing. This time the locals, who need some access to super cheap pussy to make it thru the day, are keeping things to themselves. They realise that loose-lipped foreigners looking for cheap pussy just attract NGOs, so I don't expect those places to welcome foreigners any more. Enjoy PNH, AsianRain+


I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.

But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.

Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?

NanaHawk
10-11-07, 18:57
I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.

But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.

Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?

I was in Phnom Penh in September and talking to someone who had visited Svay Pak just for 'old times sake'. I'm not sure he posts here so will pass on what he said.

He said that the Home Away From Home cafe was still there and he sat and enjoyed a beer. There is not the volume of girls that it was known for but, disturbingly, the pimps were still trying to sell the services of the children.

I, personally, have thought this to be a very unsafe place to visit for a few years now; there really does not seem to be anything to tempt me to risk being photographed by NGO types and then posted internationally as a Paedophile.
Hawk

Jaimito Cartero
10-12-07, 02:02
I went to PNH last year for 6 days, and hit Sophies, Martini's, Paris Hotel and Cyree, and had moderate to good success at these places. This time, I'll be in town for 15 days, and want to experience more interesting places. I don't mind the cot on the floor, if the ladies are nice looking. I'm thinking about going to the beach, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort, lady wise. If it's a carbon copy of Pattaya, I'd probably skip it.

I'll be arriving in about a week, so any "must not miss" places, would certainly be appreciated.

Blunderer
10-12-07, 02:21
You do have to be *very* careful.

There was an Australian guy a few years back who was photographed walking through PP (I think, but it might have been Southern Vietnam) hand in hand with a young boy. One of the international mags picked it up and splayed it across the cover with a caption to the effect that paedophilia was running rife in Cambodia (true from what I have seen - read on) and the story was about how open and notorious it was, look at what their photographer saw just outside his hotel walking along the street.

Suffice to say, this guy's life suddenly turned into a particularly vile form of syphilitic shit. It turns out the poor bastard was just there sorting out the final batch of papers for his son (the kid in the picture) that he and his wife had adopted from Cambo a couple of years previously. This sort of stuff can easily be explained away to friends and family, but what about those who just happen to recognize you from the photo on the street.

In an unrelated incident a few years ago in the UK, a guy got his office torched and the living hell kicked out of him by a bunch knob-ends, he might have even been killed - his crime, he had a sign outside saying 'Paediatrist'! Surely the fact that he was advertising what he was should've given them a bit of a clue that maybe they'd misunderstood.

My point is, when it comes to this stuff, there is no benefit of the doubt, there is no fair trial, you are guilty until proven innocent, and, even then the stigma could remain. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guys to be honest, they are sick bastards in need of psychiatric help more than vilification. Part of the point of having a society of laws is to prevent this mob mentality of vengeance. While there are plenty of other criminals that are more deserving of hospital than prison, paedophiles are the only ones I can think of where we all seem to secretly approve of the fact that they'll have the everloving shit kicked out of them, or worse, while incarcerated. We don't want to help these guys with what I imagine must be a pretty fucking debilitating sickness (I am guessing of course, I don't know any), we simply want them to suffer. Furthermore, I would guess that some of these guys are as horrified by what they do as the rest of us are - they simply have a screw loose that causes them to be attracted to the wrong people, and, they probably know it. The guilt of a catholic wanking multiplied by a few million.

OK - please don't take all this as a pro-paedophilia rant. I am disgusted by the fate of the victims of these guys, I just think as a society we need to deal with everyone with compassion - both victims and criminals, irrespective of our personal disgust. Without compassion we'd descend into a society of vengeance - there's a reason we don't let victim's family members sit on the juries of the accused.

Anyway, I digress... I am reminded of a time when, upon reflection, I could have landed myself in very hot water had someone viewed it wrong. I was with my girlfriend at the time and we were quite drunk walking through PP somewhere. This little girl came up to me, trying to sell me something and she really was as cute as a button. I wanted to get her something rather than money that her 'handler' wouldn't be able to take from her, so, said come with me and walked her to a stand that sold icecreams about 20m away (leaving the girlfriend sitting at a table - not wise!). So, just me and this little girl, me buying her an icecream.... take a polaroid of me just then and it doesn't look good at all now does it?

A few seconds later, some moto guy came up to me and asked me if I liked her and how much would I pay? It was only then that how the situation I'd placed myself in looked became clear to me. I took his registration number and gave it to a friend who knows some NGO people, but, to this day, I really wish I'd clocked him.

What was that I was preaching about tolerance above? :) Still a man who claims not to be the least bit hypocritical is either a saint or a liar.



I, personally, have thought this to be a very unsafe place to visit for a few years now; there really does not seem to be anything to tempt me to risk being photographed by NGO types and then posted internationally as a Paedophile.
Hawk

Phantomtiger2
10-13-07, 02:54
I do hear that there are other close-to-k11 type places popping up, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of information sharing. This time the locals, who need some access to super cheap pussy to make it thru the day, are keeping things to themselves. They realise that loose-lipped foreigners looking for cheap pussy just attract NGOs, so I don't expect those places to welcome foreigners any more. Enjoy PNH, AsianRain+Well, there is always some truth in all rumors. It is true that K11 places do exist but must be found with a good local guide, but don't expect these places to be as big and noticeable as the old K11. Mostly 3-4 houses at most linked together. I've seen about 2 locations last time I visited. Both locations were on the opposite side of the river away from all the usual places we all visit. Wish I knew exactly where but only have some idea as a local motodop took me there last year. And yes, due to NGO's even those places may have moved by now.

PT

Gohan39
10-14-07, 13:58
I went to PNH last year for 6 days, and hit Sophies, Martini's, Paris Hotel and Cyree, and had moderate to good success at these places. This time, I'll be in town for 15 days, and want to experience more interesting places. I don't mind the cot on the floor, if the ladies are nice looking. I'm thinking about going to the beach, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort, lady wise. If it's a carbon copy of Pattaya, I'd probably skip it.

I'll be arriving in about a week, so any "must not miss" places, would certainly be appreciated.Hi Jaimito,

Sihanookville is not Pattaya. Very cheap, few tourists to compete with. Mostly brothels you would be visiting instead of bars like in Pattaya. Anyway with 15 days you can go to Siem Reap for a few days and also Sville. They are both no more than 6 hours on the bus from PP.

While in PP I would suggest you pay a driver with a car to take you around to all the places tourists don't go. Now that's an adventure.

Jaimito Cartero
10-17-07, 09:08
Sihanookville is not Pattaya. Very cheap, few tourists to compete with. Mostly brothels you would be visiting instead of bars like in Pattaya. Anyway with 15 days you can go to Siem Reap for a few days and also Sville. They are both no more than 6 hours on the bus from PP.

While in PP I would suggest you pay a driver with a car to take you around to all the places tourists don't go. Now that's an adventure.

Sounds good. Thanks for the heads up. I did a tour around PP last time, but not of the mongering type. I need a *big* tuk-tuk, if it's going to take me. :) I find that if I take too many side trips, that at the end of it, I'm just tired out, so would prefer to take one side trip, and see how I like the other city. Is there enough action in Siem Reap to make it worthwhile?

Kniom
10-17-07, 13:48
Is there enough action in Siem Reap to make it worthwhile?Zanzybar is still a popular place for freelancers, despite the new owners. There is a club called "Blue Wave" - but I've never been inside. Reports in the Siem Reap Forum are not that enthusiastic about it. Same about Sok San. Martini was pretty quiet when I last visited.

So enjoy but watch carefully!

Phantomtiger2
10-18-07, 01:57
Is there enough action in Siem Reap to make it worthwhile?


I've contributed some info on SR along with another buddy monger (pirate1--who is no longer on this forum due to all the harsh treatment he received).
The bottom line is this about SR. You should really be going there to visit the Angkor temple sites and along the way as a side adventure only--seeking gals. 1) gals and mongering activity is not as many as in PP 2) everything including prices for mongering more expensive. Hope this helps.

PT

Noela
10-18-07, 02:53
Hi all,

This is my first chat.

I will be in Phnom Penh on Monday 22nd, staying at the Walkabout. Would love to catch up with anybody next week, then going down to the beach the following week.

Jaimito Cartero
10-21-07, 15:40
Made it in the other day, and have been mostly recovering from the long flight so far. PNH is not appealing at the moment, so will probably head to the beach in the next couple of days.

I'm heading off to Le Cyrcee in a few minutes.

Shamas
10-21-07, 18:11
A few places in PP to consider:

Sakura hotel MP, Navy Club MP and New World MP?

When I stayed at Flamingos I went to a MP that was close to Walkabout, 2nd floor around the corner. Walkabout has a few rare hotties.

There are numerous MPs that cater to the mid level Chinese in PP. I went to one just off Morivan (Sp suxs) @ "fuck can't remember the cross Street number, it was a major intersection, think it was road to Russian market or Mao Road.

Early evening I cruised up and down the river front road up to the Japanese Bridge. Saw a few very sharp cuties heading to the casino boat. I also saw MPs to $1.25 US in the industrial port area.

Snooky still has good reputation

Koi Kong got some bad reports a week ago. Chicken farm, 1st house on the R has a new owner who's got the girls ripping off customers.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Phantomtiger2
10-22-07, 00:54
Koi Kong got some bad reports a week ago. Chicken farm, 1st house on the R has a new owner who's got the girls ripping off customers.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Hey Shamas, long time since we last communicated.
KK 1st house- my old reports already warned everyone about this house as they were ripping off everyone regardless of old or new owners. Some folks told me pimps working at some PP brothels that steal from us are now relocating to other areas of Cambo--including KK. So stay safe.



PT

Member #4175
10-23-07, 13:45
I think the information in my post already appears in this forum, but I write shortly anyway.

I went to Svay Pak in the afternoon a couple of weeks ago. No signs of brothels on the outside, but I was immediately invited into one of the houses on a sidestreet. After some negotiations I overpaid for a nice vietnamese girl. Definitely legal age. However, I can't really see the reason for going all the way to Svay Pak. Since they bring you a few girls into a normal house choice is not very varied. When you have gone all the way there you also think you should "get to it" even though price is high. So all in all I don't think I will go back. Whether it is dangerous, I don't know. I don't think an NGO could take the picture of a Westerner and publish it on the internet only because he has visited SVay Pak. But I could be wrong about this.

By the way. Does anyone know good places on 63rd st. Or Toul Kork. By good places I mean having stunning 19-20 y. O. Vietnamese girls. I have visited 63rd st. And Toul Kork in the daytime without finding any places of interest. F. Ex I didn't see anything obvious around TK market or 70th st.

First Lover
10-23-07, 17:10
Less than a month now till I get to PP. Can hardly wait now. How is the wireless internet in Flamingo these days? Is it working and would it support a voice conversation on Skype? I have not decided yet if I should bring my laptop or not.
I hope to make some nice (and some dirty) pictures when in PP for later view and show.

Not sure if it is smart to upload them directly in to own laptop after reading the forum.

Prince Harry
10-26-07, 03:36
Internet at flamingo generally OK nowadays and does support skype on wireless in the rooms.
Just posted on cambodia forum re GGC,do some of you guys belong to both?
Which is the best resource?

Kenny Rogers
10-28-07, 03:55
Hi folks,

I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me.

I have been in Thailand more times than I can count and been in Phom Penh once for a week last July. I know Sharky's and Martini's plus a few other places but wondered if someone could update me where the action now is.

I have a bit mixed feelings about Martini's-cool at times, but on other days the Mama-San is trying to set you up with some butt-ugly Chick and one seem unable to get rid of them.

I'll be back in PNH mid of November. Does anyone know what's recently going on? And whether the Bougainvilliers Hotel is girl-friedly? Stayed the last time at the River-Star hotel (NOT to be confused with the Riverside Hotel). OK, but a bit too much low-end. I found Shanghai Bar to be mainly a scam. Girls pushy and expensive, is it worth to give 63rd and 104th Street a try?

Some "local" tip, maybe?

Xdentx
10-29-07, 05:22
I was assured by Giotto of the Thailand thread that the Bougainviller Hotel is girl friendly. However, they do ask to see the ladies documents. I'm booked in one of the suites in early Janurary...based on Giotto's comments.

Kenny Rogers
10-29-07, 23:32
I was assured by Giotto of the Thailand thread that the Bougainviller Hotel is girl friendly. However, they do ask to see the ladies documents. I'm booked in one of the suites in early Janurary...based on Giotto's comments.Thanks. If they check the girls ID that's actually a benefit. I Choose the Bougainvillier because Sisowath Quay is close to the action and the suites have a stunning view overlooking the Mekong River. Plus, for additional 5$ you have reliable Broadband internet which I need and a room safe.

I can let you know how it's been when I'm back.

Prince Harry
10-30-07, 11:02
So, kenny you are bringing your love to town. I don't frequent the cheapies but there are plenty around and you will probably be robbed.

Just down street 51 and around the corner from the ELT english school I counted five places on one side of the road on one block. Around there are heaps of cheapies either with coloured lights, a 5000 riel sign or a karaoke sign.

Khmer language may be required but sign language will probably suffice and you will probably get robbed.

There is a new bar on 136, called guess what-136 bar. Many lovely girls and a good vibe. They are looking at stocking up with 55 girls on hand-is that enough?

Bar 104 is still good as is DV8, zapata, golden vine and of course the old favourite LCC(le cyrcee). Mikado is patchy at best and the shanghai is the same.

Walkabout, sharkey and martinis still the home of the skanks, but occasionally there is something nice.

Had a lovely, cheap meal at bojangles last night. A khmer owned bar / restauarant on the riverside just north of the 148 corner. The riverside bistro on the southern corner is a bit expensive but they have some of the loveliest waitresses in PP in those sexy uniforms-well worth a perve.

Roguesta
11-01-07, 16:13
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but does anyone have any information on Chip Lay Massage? I'll be staying the Walkabout Hotel later this month, and I believe that Chip Lay is within a block of the hotel.

Dinghy
11-01-07, 22:39
BLOCK?? How about right around the corner? If you go out the corner entrance on Street 51, turn right and go to the next building (right next door) THAT'S CHIP LAY. They have rooms, too

Donnylad
11-02-07, 04:33
Sorry this is so late, but due to lack of internet access and other issues I have been unable to do this until now. It's a lengthy and detailed review of my experiences in PP and SR (which will be posted in that forum). Apologies if some details and names are no longer clear.

3/9/07 - Arrived in PP at 7:30pm. Raining. Had booked at Asia Hotel and presumed my original booking at Flamingos had been cancelled. In a mix-up, only the Flamingos driver had showed by mistake, so I went with him. Saw the room and agreed to stay. Arranged my room for 2nd stay later in the week too.

Decided to hit Sharkys first and got a tuk tuk. Not too busy as it was a Mon night. Spoke to a couple of girls, but wanted to check the field. Did notice a modestly dressed, quiet girl in a corner on her own. Eventually she came up to me. Spoke a little english and I started trying out some Khmer so we had a few laughs. Turns out she was 32 (my age) with kids but single. Eventually got her a drink after deciding to leave with her. I think she went to the ladies as I started talking to a couple of Irish lads sitting next to me. She returned and then seemed to be getting bored as I talked to these guys. I started to worry she would just walk away. Just then she started massaging me all over, much to the guys' amusement. Eventually I got talking to her again. I don't think we went into the specifics, but I just asked how much to go to my hotel. With translation the responded was 'whatever you wish to give me'. Which I hate!! I offered 20 and she bit my hand off. I said it was for a couple of hours but she persuaded me for an all nighter as she didn't want to travel alone at night. I don't like this as I canm't sleep without worrying about my stuff.

Back at the hotel she blankly refused to shave her hairy pussy. I found this to be a general problem. She loved DATY and also the pics. Her oral was very intensive and no probs with BBBJ. Her ball sucking was pretty good, but I didn't go for the rimming. Sex was fine but no anal. I couldn't cum for the life of me and she was genuinely upset about this. Can't remember if I made her cum again before we fell asleep. Terrible night sleep so I got her up early. I went down on her again before we repeated what we did night before but still no cum for me. She was upset again but took her money and left. At one point I thought she was gonna let me try anal but I think I misunderstood. She also snogged from what I remember. A decent start, I felt.

4/9/07 - Spent the day sightseeing around PP. In the late afternoon, decided to check out Walkabout. It was pretty quiet and I was soon accosted by this short, very young-looking Khmer with this older, bigger woman. She later told me she was half Viet/half Khmer. We played pool (which I soon found out is a 'courting ritual' over there. Ended up agreeing to take the younger one for 15. At this point I agreed she could call me on my newly acquired SIM card on the Sat, mainly cos I wanted to do her friend then. I soon found out she was a single mother too and was fromk Siem Reap. Made out she was v. new to PP but didn't believe it. I started then to appreciate the almost obsessive craze these girls have on cleanliness. Not a bad thing. The cool thing about her was she was lactating. DATY was ok as was BBBJ I think. However, it turned out she didn't have any rubbers (the girl night before did have them). After an argument it was decided she would go with just $10.

After dinner decided to check out Martinis. It was pretty packed and I got swamped at the bar by 3 or 4 Khmer girls. They were all over me and I think there started the general fascination between girls and my man boobs and my hairy arms!! There was one who wasn't a great looker but the way she moved just made me think she'd be great. I wasn't about to fold just yet though. Wandered around but decided to seek shelter mostly in the coolness of the raging disco. Didn't really get approached by too many girls after that. Saw a frew older dsinterested types sitting outside. At one point, this tallish, thin, young girl bumped into me and shook my hand. I think she asked my name and how old I was. I'm sure she said she was 23 too, but I thought she was strange and discarded the incident. However, later, she approached me as I was sat outside. We got talking and eventually agreed to it all for 20. I think she may have agreed to shave too.

Got a cab back to the hotel. She had darker skin and I amazing cup-shaped, natural tits. I now realise it is the girl reported by Boldfocker on -

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=623203&postcount=484

Anyway, we showered as is standard after she let me shave her. However, she seemed to bleed loads at one point and I was really worried I'd cut her. As it turned out, she was on her period. Whilst she was very enthusiastic, I couldn't concentrate properly as it all got pretty messy. I didn't cum again. No anal, needless to say. She left at the agreed time and I got some sleep.

5/9/07 - Flight to Siem REap early in the morning.

7/9/07 - Returned from Siem Reap in the early evening. Due to a problem with Flamingos transfer vehicle, I ended up getting a cab and the whole process delayed me too much. The hotel had screwed up my room as they didn't have any spare standard singles except on the half landing. This wasn't suitable cos of my disability (no lift access) so they agreed to put me in a deluxe that night at standard rate. Next night I would have to move to a standard. I agreed.

Hit Sharkys and it was buzzing!! I soon had this titchy, slim Viet woman sitting next to me. She looked a bit older and turned out she was 35!! Oldest I'd seen yet. Got talking as she spoke great English. She had kids too. Agreed to everything for $15 and we were soon off. If I remember correctly, her body was pretty good and BBBJ was excellent with ball-sucking. More importantly, she was already shaven!! DATY was fine too. Sex but no anal. Did not cum again, much to her dismay. Think she kissed too, but can't be sure.

Decided the night was still young and went to Walkabout. Buzzing there too at 1am. Stayed for an hour and noticed this incredibly short, slim Khmer girl. Think one of the girls told me she had a girl and I forgot about her. Ended up noticing this girl that looked familiar. Eventually she came up to me and I realised it was the bleeding girl from Martinis. We had a chat about it and a laugh. She said she had been off work cos of it until that day. She was all over me like a rash and I knew she wanted to repeat. I decided I wouldn't unless I got her for peanuts. When it came to the crunch I said I only had $10 until the next day as I was out of money (a total lie!). She said she couldn't do it. Only problem was that I couldn't keep on trying to get other girls there so I left.

Got an unfamiliar tuk tuk and decided boldly to seek out more women. This guy then took me all the way to the monument to a shack area. It was the only time I felt remotely unsafe during my trip. There various young Khmer girls were paraded. The only girl I liked turned out to be the mamasan!! She was relatively young though. Anyway, we then found the only genuine SWs I saw the whole time I was there along the street by the monument. None of them were up for it although there were some young cuties. Went back to the shacks and saw a girl who they said was mamasan's sister (there were similarities). She did look ridiculously young but they assured me she was 19. I don't think we discussed what I wanted but agreed a price. It was either 20 or 25. Like in SR, I paid some to them mamasan and the rest to the girl.

Back at the room, we showered and she had such an underdeveloped body it worried me. She started calling out on my phone, which annoyed me a little. She wouldn't allow shaving either. DATY was ok but we had some probs with BBBJ. After getting her to play ball, I think we ended up doing it covered and then sex. Her technique confirmed that she must be quite experienced and, hopefully, older than she looked. No anal again and no cum for me. She couldn't care less and left.

8/9/07 - Next day got up bit late and did Toul Sleng/Killing Fields/firing range circuit. Got back to PP and it decided to downpour for about 30 mins. Went straight to Walkabout and it was moderately busy. Soon clapped eyes on this incredibly featured Khmer girl who was big. Her tits were huge and her face had this indescribable allure. Her butt wasn't bad either, but probably not most guys' type. Anyway, strangely she would not discuss details there and said she would be at my hotel in 10 mins. I went and waited for her and she arrived. We negotiated on the way to my room. She eventually agreed to everything except anal for 20. We showered and it turns out she'd just had a baby and was seriously lactating. I was in milk heaven!!! DATY was ok. No DFK I think. Didn't do BBBJ and had similar probs getting her to fulfill the service. Eventually achieved it after much coaxing. Didn't cum with her either. Very average except for the lactating.

Later that evening I went back to Walkabout to watch the All Blacks rugby game. Met up with a Kiwi and American 'teachers' who were based in PP for a few months. Had a few beers with them. The Kiwi duly left with his regular girl. The American said he had to meet his 26 yo girl after her work. A few more beers later we were chatting away and he said he was cheating on her with a 19yo bar girl. He then decided he had to see her and I agreed to join him. He warned me it was a hostess bar and that they girls would be all over me. He highlighted one that apparently had an amazing rack. We were greeted like kings at the small bar a short ride away (can't remember name). I had 4 girls around me. One who seemed affectionate but could tell she wasn't interested. She was the translator. Another was a short, thin but oldish looking cheeky one. She was my favorite and it turned out she was 31 and a senior girl there. Another was the 'rack & booty' girl and the 4th was of no importance. Needless to say the American was lost in his own world with his 19yo. I had wanted to get a girl in before the England game at midnight but time was running out. The dancing started and soon I had rack girl's bosom rubbing against my face and head. The cheeky one kept pinching my man boobs and I kept pinching her back. Suddenly she said she was leaving and gave me a full on snog before she left!!! In the meantime I had bought all 3 girls drinks on basis that it was $3 for the lot. It turned out they were $3 each. Didn't break the bank though. I ended up leaving empty handed and got back to the hotel in time to change for the game.

I had hoped to go to Walkabout but didn't have time so decided to check out Shanghai's just across the road. It was busy with their famed 60 girls. Chatted to the Aussie manager for most of the game. At the end of the game one of the girls sat with me with her own beer (not paid by me!). We started talking and soon were kissing and cuddling. Despite negotiations she would not budge from $25 for her and $5 for the bar to go to my room. I left empty handed and went to Sharkys. It was 10 to 2 and didn't realise it closed at 2. Anyway, there were quite a few older Viet women trying to peddle younger ones to guys. I declined. However, I was soon approached by a younger/older couple of girls. The older one did all the talking and I should've got suss when she agreed to everything without even talking to the younger one. I had decided to treat myself to a double and the American's advice had been to 'go Viet' if doing a double. As it was closing time, the deal was done swiftly. The main point being they would go down on each other.

Back at the room the usual ensued. Refusal to shave down there. DATY by me on them went ok. Then they started faking going down on each other. Eventually they wouldn't do oral together on me. Then ensued a drawn out process involving mediation by one of the guys from the hotel. Eventually, they agreed to give me oral and sex for the $15 each that had been agreed and I kicked them out.

As it was my last night, I decided I wasn't going to sleep at all as that might help jet lag. I decided to go back to Walkabout at about 4am. Remembering the American saying that there were dodgy types there in the early hours, I wasn't expecting much. I couldn't believe it when I got there to find it was probably busier than it had been at 7 pm!!! I sat downstairs and decided to wait for something to happen. Sure enough, that really short girl from the night before showed up. Soon after she came and sat next to me. Then ensued a wonderful conversation as she spoke pretty good English. Said she was a mother of 29. Anyway, my biggest regret was dallying for the next hour before suggesting we go back. We agreed everything before hand I think. We didn't set a price though. The size of this girl was turning me on right from the start! We didn't get to my room till about 5:30 and it was already light again.

Her reasonably shaven pussy was shaven off again. She loved DATY and talked dirty all the way through it. Don't think she came though. She was seriously into DFK and photos. Her oral was excellent too. As I started fucking her in all different positions she said she wanted me to fuck her ass too!! That sent me over the edge and she practically begged me to cum on her face!! Couldn't believe it as I got a great cum shot. Don't think she was a swallower though. We cleaned up and I gave her $30 for her troubles. She agreed to accompany to the airport (I delayed my transfer by 30 mins half way through the session!!). I also gave her my SIM card (which I barely used - waste of $23 in total). She later told me she loved anal and did it regularly. We agreed it would be left for 'next time'. In closing, I can't believe I was so rushed with the most amazing woman I saw the whole time!! I could easily have spent every night with her and got action in the morning too (after having had at least one ST girl every night too, of course!). Never mind, but it was an amazing trip and I recommend it to anyone.

AncntFornicatr
11-02-07, 08:47
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but does anyone have any information on Chip Lay Massage? I'll be staying the Walkabout Hotel later this month, and I believe that Chip Lay is within a block of the hotel.

Roguesta, as was pointed out it is right around the corner. You walk in and go up a stairway to the elevator. It kind of looks like you are entering a mausoleum. Take the elevator to I think it is the 5th floor and it will dump you out in a room with the fish bowl on your left and a counter straight ahead.

Pick a number from the bowl and you might get a good massage as well as anything else you put on the menu. When I was there in Feb/Mar last year I found a fantastic lady whose name and number have disappeared with the hangover I later had. She did not cause it.

She shows up in a little white uniform and starts the massage. As the relationship develops the white clothes disappear, the relationship deepens, pun intended, and after tipping her $!0 or $15 bucks, either of which was appreciated, you proceed back to the counter in the main room and pay the lady something in the neighborhood of $5, depending on the length of the massage.

Although I couldn't convince either one that yum yum was a good way to complete a massage the full service was great.

After eliciting a back arching orgasm in the second masseuse I was rewarded with a softly spoken "thank you" as she kicked back on the pillow. I believe most of the clients are Chinese or Khmer and I suspect her orgasm is not on their mind most of the time.

A few days later I was coming down the steps of my hotel and a lovely creature all decked out in a sailor suit type of outfit that looked spectacular stopped and said she was going to SR for four days with a German but she would be back and would I be sure to come and visit her. At first I couldn't figure out where and when I was so stoned or drunk that I met this lovely creature and couldn't remember her. The next day I recalled it was the "thank you" girl.

I'll be be back in February and will be looking for her.
AF

Bold Focker
11-03-07, 18:36
I have a hand held and down loaded skype mobile2.2 onto it.

It works fine and is a dam sight lighter than a laptop!

If I take any photos I email them to a dummy email account and pick them up when back home. I'm not going to risk the PP Hilton!

BF



Less than a month now till I get to PP. Can hardly wait now. How is the wireless internet in Flamingo these days? Is it working and would it support a voice conversation on Skype? I have not decided yet if I should bring my laptop or not.

I hope to make some nice (and some dirty) pictures when in PP for later view and show.

Not sure if it is smart to upload them directly in to own laptop after reading the forum.

Carlos Spain
11-04-07, 00:41
Someone may send information about Casa Hotel in Phnom Penh?

It is friendly?

In the nightclub, there are girls freelancers? The price for freelancers in disco and Karaoke?

Kenny Rogers
11-05-07, 01:52
I have a hand held and down loaded skype mobile2.2 onto it.

It works fine and is a dam sight lighter than a laptop!

If I take any photos I email them to a dummy email account and pick them up when back home. I'm not going to risk the PP Hilton!

BFWell, you would in any case have to observe great care not only to delete temporary copies of these pics and the originals, you also have to wipe them.
Option 1: Encrypt your Mobile's staorage card (needs extra software) so that anything on this card is automatically encrypted.

Option 2: Use a laptop, download the pics, compress the pictures in encrypted *.exe or *.zip files, then wipe the Original pictures and wipe (not format) the camera's storage card.

Either way, if you want certain data not to be found on your gadgets it'll take a bit more than just uploading them - the upload process could be easily compromised, unless you use a VPN.

Vista with BitLocker is Okay, but although no one can view the pictures the presence of such files is obvious, and all it needs is your password.

Kenny Rogers
11-05-07, 02:10
RE: That disguisting feminist article, "killer condoms crap", etc.

Please ask yourself: Why did you come here? For the food? For sightseeing? For the nice people? My friend, please don't be a hypocrite.

Some travels: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=622003&postcount=200Well, I agree with you - mostly. But I guess we all have our own approach when it comes to "why do we travel and where".

I've visited the Killing fields and Tol Slueng. Not at all a waste of time. But hell, deep inside me is some Redneck asshole who needs some quality time from time time. Yes, I DO want to stare at a woman's boobies if I want (and when was the last time you could've done that in North America? ). Grab her ass, you got that right, LOL. I also want to go to a bar, have my beer AND my goddamn cigarette without getting my ass booted after 30 seconds.

I do enjoy getting my business suits and shoes made to order for a fraction of the price I'd pay at home. And last but not least, I enjoy banging three chicks a day or at a time if I"m in the mood.

I do treat people with the same respect they show me, and making the world's oldest business a crime is indeed hypocrisis, I couldn't agree more.

Yes, indeed, one could blame us for "taking advantage" of the poverty in countries such as Cambodia. However, those who do must have two things in mind: First that we bring our money to these countries for a purpose. Second, we don't take more advantage of a willing girl than the average wesern company takes of its employees. Better to blame these NGO-guys who make a gorgeous way of living just by blabbering barely understood phrases all day.

Roguesta
11-05-07, 06:33
For me, mongering is only one of many reasons why I go to Cambodia. I'm going again next week.

PinkPearl
11-05-07, 09:14
I have a hand held and down loaded skype mobile2.2 onto it.

It works fine and is a dam sight lighter than a laptop!

If I take any photos I email them to a dummy email account and pick them up when back home. I'm not going to risk the PP Hilton!

BFJust taking the photos may be a risk.

What if the model reports you?

PinkPearl
11-05-07, 09:29
I've visited the Killing fields and Tol Slueng. Not at all a waste of time. But hell, deep inside me is some Redneck asshole who needs some quality time from time time. Yes, I DO want to stare at a woman's boobies if I want (and when was the last time you could've done that in North America? ). Grab her ass, you got that right, LOL. I also want to go to a bar, have my beer AND my goddamn cigarette without getting my ass booted after 30 seconds.

Yes, indeed, one could blame us for "taking advantage" of the poverty in countries such as Cambodia. However, those who do must have two things in mind: First that we bring our money to these countries for a purpose. Second, we don't take more advantage of a willing girl than the average wesern company takes of its employees. Better to blame these NGO-guys who make a gorgeous way of living just by blabbering barely understood phrases all day.In Canada I can stare at internet boobs all day long for free, whereas in Thailand this is illegal & many sites are blocked by the police. Not sure where Cambodia stands on this, but since my PC is not mobile it is a non issue.

In Vancouver if I want some tail to handle rather than just see it is easily available in abundance for 3-10 times what I'd pay for the Thai meat. Some bars there also have smoking rooms. That is, for cigarettes not BJs.

Re poon in poor countries, I like to think that I am supporting some of these ladies families and they are taking advantage of me for the same. LOL

PinkPearl
11-05-07, 09:31
For me, mongering is only one of many reasons why I go to Cambodia. I'm going again next week.I hear you can find Mary Jane there.

Blunderer
11-05-07, 15:17
<snip>

Yes, indeed, one could blame us for "taking advantage" of the poverty in countries such as Cambodia. However, those who do must have two things in mind: First that we bring our money to these countries for a purpose. Second, we don't take more advantage of a willing girl than the average wesern company takes of its employees. Better to blame these NGO-guys who make a gorgeous way of living just by blabbering barely understood phrases all day.

You make some interesting points, both in the section I've snipped and the section I've quoted - I largely agree with you on most of it (although questions of morality are almost by definition uncertain things).

I would caution you on your last paragraph though... one of the scariest things I see people do is justify their own behavior on the basis that another accepted or common practice is just as bad or worse - or, simply because someone else is behaving worse than you. You justify your actions twice in the last paragraph by comparing yourself to others (western companies & NGO guys). Once you get onto that sort of logic, it is pretty easy for the next guy to come along and say 'well I'm not much worse than him', then another and another and, standards of behavior keep slipping because morality is no longer something that is thought of as intrinsic, but rather something that is thought of as nothing more than relative to others (both of which are partly true anyway).

Bah... not explaining myself well... anyway, wasn't an attack in any sense, just cautioning you that in my opinion justifying ones ideals and morality on the morality or actions of others is a pretty fucking slippery slope.

Kenny Rogers
11-06-07, 00:33
Once you get onto that sort of logic, it is pretty easy for the next guy to come along and say 'well I'm not much worse than him', then another and another and, standards of behavior keep slipping because morality is no longer something that is thought of as intrinsic, but rather something that is thought of as nothing more than relative to others (both of which are partly true anyway).

Bah... not explaining myself well... anyway, wasn't an attack in any sense, just cautioning you that in my opinion justifying ones ideals and morality on the morality or actions of others is a pretty fucking slippery slope.Again, I agree. But I don't say "well, I do it because the other guys do it, too, it can't be TOO bad". I just say that moral standards may differ in different countries and societies. I have noticed that the sexual abuse of minors is obviously not welcomed in this forum, something I absolutely appreciate. However, what consensual adults do is something different.

My point is simply that although being employed in a "Management position" I'm forced literally every day to do things I don't believe to be right. Insofar I find it truly hypocritical to apply different standards to "moral issues".

BTW, there seems to be scientific consensus that women are suppressed most in societies where sexual conformity is an issue (such as Muslim states).

I guess what I want to say is: It basically comes down to price. A 20$ job in Phnom Penh is of drastical better value than a 150 $ "Short time" with a North Americal needle *****. I guess the girls there also spend the money in a more useful way, at least generally speaking (never asked, LOL. I too don't want to get too much involved and hear those sad stories, whether true or made up).

I'm not sure whether you've catched up that story about the prostitutes forced out of business in Chiang Mai by well-meaning NGO's who then started a big protest. Although this is certainly not a good example it at least indicates that Prostitution basically IS a business, and that there seems to be no reason why you should not treat a prostitute with respect, provided her services are worth the money paid.
Overreading my answer I'm also not satisfied with what I expressed. I'm not trying to come up with pseudo-moral excuses, I don't think we need one.

However, one more point: The Germans don't get much on track, but their decision simply to legalize Prostitution was truly some hands-on approach. Taking away the illegality of this has also taken away many related problems.

Last but not least... have fun ;-)

Gohan39
11-06-07, 01:15
Someone may send information about Casa Hotel in Phnom Penh?

It is friendly?

In the nightclub, there are girls freelancers? The price for freelancers in disco and Karaoke?Hi Carlos,

Looks like you may be the 1st here to stay at the Casa club.

I would imagine it's girl friendly since the fishbowl exists inside the place.

I visited the fishbowl lat February and left after 15 minutes.

I was there at night about 8pm and it was early. Probably too early.

Was looking at over 60 viet ladies that totally ignored this barang.

Some of the girls were pretty enough to take out but I have the impression that the Asian businessman big spenders are what they're used to going with.

I've read it may be $60 for one of them. The hotel is also a wifi hotspot (you still have to pay for the access) but with the nightclub at street level it could be too noisey for sleep.

Dinghy
11-06-07, 19:05
pearl - "Happy Herb Pizza" by the river, street 176? and Sisowath.

How do you like your "oregano" - "happy" or "extra happy"? (Sihanoukville is a "home grown" operation - better quality - though) Sniff and ye shall find.

AncntFornicatr
11-07-07, 00:04
pearl - "Happy Herb Pizza" by the river, street 176? and Sisowath.

How do you like your "oregano" - "happy" or "extra happy"? (Sihanoukville is a "home grown" operation - better quality - though) Sniff and ye shall find.
If you plan to walk within the next four hours I would recommend against the Extra Happy at either of the pizza places.

Dinghy
11-07-07, 01:23
not if one is "extra large" (no, not there, just the rest of me...) You think WALKING is a p-p-p-problem - just try operating a MOTO. "Extra happy" only did a slight buzz - good stuff.

Wow - look at all the pretty colors...

Carlos Spain
11-08-07, 00:13
Thanks for your answer!

Sophisticated
11-12-07, 03:26
Looking for the ultimate large nippled babe in Phnom Penh.

Yougn or old.

Got any clues

AlLostInSpace13
11-12-07, 17:05
Just came from Siem Reap and checked into the Walkabout... what? what do you mean there's no wireless internet? I see. The room rate is only $15 and so to expect a little less. But in Siem Reap the room rate was $20 and there was wireless internet and the bathroom didn't stink.
For those who have heard of the Walkabout from this forum, let me forewarn you that the Walkabout is very basic. Too bad the Flamingos was fully booked! But I must say that the Walkabout is very conventientally located, shouting distance to the Shanghai bar and the Heart of Darkness disco, however nothing can make up for the stinch in my room... I digress.
First night I visited the Shanghai bar, which appeared to be similar to the Walkabout bar, so I didn't go in. I walked over to the Heart of Darkness and it's a smallish disco with a pool table. Ok, there seems to be some nice looking figures inside, but when comes to discos, size matters, so I asked a Walkabout frontdesk and was recommended Spark.
A $2 motor ride got me to Spark and it's comparable to zone1 in Siem Reap, but twice as big. The place was full of Khmer guys and gals and yet again I ran into the same problem as with zone1 - what is the protocol to discover and pick up working chicks? I didn't see no mamasan at the door.
No luck at Spark and returned to Heart of Darkness. Saw this cute chick and as soon as I told her I stayed at the Walkabout, she frowned and said she would meet me there later. So I went to the Walkabout bar and started drinking. After a few beers the cute chick appeared but declined any engagement for the night and gave me her number instead. After a few more drinks the skanks started to look more appealling (that's always a bad sign). I ended up screwing someone that I normally wouldn't have and let's just end it at that.
Second day. Went to the Toul Sleng genocide museum. Lost my appetite. Back to the hotel for a nap. Woke up and went downstairs to grab a bite to eat. Saw this young thing. Her name was Mia, age 25. Off we went to the Spark. Again the place was rocking, but Mia refused to dance, so we left after a beer. Went back to the hotel and shagged. The next morning I asked her how much and she said whatever you want - that's music to my ears. I gave her $15 but she frowned, so I gave her $20 instead, plus all my leftover soft drinks in the fridge. She was the highlight of my trip to PP. I'm flying out to Bangkok.
Someone in this forum should recommend another more decent girlfriendly hotel, so there will be more choices.

Prince Harry
11-12-07, 17:28
Maate, the walkabou has no class.

There are numerous girl friendly hotels, but they don't have hot and cold running women on tap like The Walkabou.

There are better areas to enjoy like the Midway bars, Street 104, Street 136. Mr Kim has just bought the old bar 51 on the corner opposite the Shanghai and is rebranding it as The Black Cat. He is after 20 girls.

Friend of mine enjoyed the Hotel Cara at $30 something, sounds good to me and near street 136.

Didi Vise
11-13-07, 12:41
Was alive and kicking when I visited PP,
The minute you enter the bar you are surounded by cute small Khmer girls and before you drink the first aip from your beer you find yourself being blown by 3 girls on the bar, I took this 3 girls to the backroom and had a lot of fun with them.

PinkPearl
11-13-07, 21:29
Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?

Didi Vise
11-14-07, 07:16
Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?

Buisness, sight seeing and places like Sophie's that don't exist in Bangkok
and the Khmer girls are smaller in size, gentler in look and different from the Thai girls.

Prince Harry
11-14-07, 10:08
Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?Mmm, maybe because the Khmer are nicer people, it is cheaper, and the girls don't have tatoos and attitude.

And the police are not out to entrap or arrest people for anything. That's important to me.

Cheap Meat
11-14-07, 10:24
Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?Because poor guys like me can't afford anything else! If you only have $50 a day to live on, you have to spend it wisely. Even in Pattaya, it takes a minimum of $30 for a night with a girl. If I go to cambo, I can get a girl for $10 a night. That leaves a lot left over for my living expenses. I can get LT every single night like that and it'd be within my budget. Could you do that in Bangkok?

AlLostInSpace13
11-14-07, 11:09
Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?

Was just trying to experience the monger-side of PP, but I guess having only 2 days just didn't do it justice. I'll give it another try later.

Member #3443
11-14-07, 11:16
And if you really want to take a girl off the market, it is only 1/3 to 1/4 the cost than to do the same with a Thai Girl or a filipina.

Kenny Rogers
11-14-07, 11:46
thanks. if they check the girls id that's actually a benefit. i choose the bougainvillier because sisowath quay is close to the action and the suites have a stunning view overlooking the mekong river. plus, for additional 5$ you have reliable broadband internet which i need and a room safe.

i can let you know how it's been when i'm back.well, i have to correct myself. bougainvillier hotel is nice and staff friendly, but not girl friendly.

thing is, 70 to 80 % of the girls (especially in martini's and sharky's) do not have id-cards. no id-card, no girl. i once bribed the security guy with 5 $, but he insisted on maximum of one hour. and that's not wahy you take a girl out.

also, be warned: the building right next to the bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. from 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. this is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when i booked and said nothing. i had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise. as it is main seasons everything in phnom penh is booked out, so it had to be the interconti for the double cost. at least they're more girl friendly here. prices seem to go up here lately, probably because of much traffic from thailand diverting here. girls demand 20$ for short time, although most will still settle for 15 $. tuk-tuk driver scams gotten worse, especially late at night drivers demand 4 or 5 $ out of martini's. hire a good driver for the whole afternoon, 7 to 10 usd. it's worth it. i may be wrong, but to me it appears like there are a lot more **** girls working since i've been here the last time in july. even in martini"s the mama-san's try to hook you up with girls which are **** (and yes, they are. simply ask the girl for her age, compliment her on how gorgeous she looks and then ask her for her chinese horoscope. 99% of all case this won't match with the birthday she's told you before. one girl yesterday appeared to be no older than 13). back off, ngo people are everywhere. i may report more when i have the time.

c'u, kenny

Chaos Theory
11-15-07, 08:32
Just come back from a few days on a business trip in PP. Had a lot of meetings during the day but as I was travelling alone I was free in the evening to do what I wanted.

First night I had dinner with some friends and afterwards, as time was getting on, went for the easy option of Cyrecee. Had visisted once before back in August and nothing seemed to have changed in operational terms though prices semed to have gone up a touch. Was swamped with girls as I came through the door. Standard was 6-7 (YMMV) and soon had selected two and went upstairs. Was in the room almost at the top which had no shower. We all had to go up another floor for that. Girls were good and enthusiastic. Can't fault the place, offers an excellent no fuss service and I had a lot of fun.

Next night went over to Walkabout to check it out. Never been before and did not intend to pick up here. Was quite early (say 8pm) but a reasonable number of girls some of very high standard. Was approached a number of times but refused. Didn't enquire on prices. Food was crap.

Decided to move on and headed to Bar 104. Loved it. Girls, once again in my opinion, of very high standard, though some a bit plump. My eye was caught by what I rated an 8 who turned out to be Vietnamese. Her and some firends sat with me and we had a few laughs. They weren't too pushy for drinks and had a good time. I wan't quite sure of the form here so at about 11pm just whispered to the Viet girl asking if she wanted to come back to my hotel. She said yes and went off to get changed. No problem with bar fines or anything like that. So much easier than the Ha Bai Trung bars in HCMC. Back at the hotel she turns out to be the nearest I have ever come across to a nyphomaniac. No rest that night and a great GFE. She left at 9am when I had to start work

Was knackered so although I went back to 104 the next night I didn't take her out again as needed to sleep.

Looking forward to my next trip in the New Year.

CT

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PinkPearl
11-15-07, 12:45
well, i have to correct myself. bougainvillier hotel is nice and staff friendly, but not girl friendly.

thing is, 70 to 80 % of the girls (especially in martini's and sharky's) do not have id-cards. no id-card, no girl. i once bribed the security guy with 5 $, but he insisted on maximum of one hour. and that's not wahy you take a girl out.

also, be warned: the building right next to the bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. from 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. this is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when i booked and said nothing. i had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise. as it is main seasons everything in phnom penh is booked out, so it had to be the interconti for the double cost. at least they're more girl friendly here. prices seem to go up here lately, probably because of much traffic from thailand diverting here. girls demand 20$ for short time, although most will still settle for 15 $. tuk-tuk driver scams gotten worse, especially late at night drivers demand 4 or 5 $ out of martini's. hire a good driver for the whole afternoon, 7 to 10 usd. it's worth it. i may be wrong, but to me it appears like there are a lot more **** girls working since i've been here the last time in july. even in martini"s the mama-san's try to hook you up with girls which are **** (and yes, they are. simply ask the girl for her age, compliment her on how gorgeous she looks and then ask her for her chinese horoscope. 99% of all case this won't match with the birthday she's told you before. one girl yesterday appeared to be no older than 13). back off, ngo people are everywhere. i may report more when i have the time.

c'u, kennythis post reveals a few of the reasons {id, booked up, ngo, ****, etc}

why bkk is a superior choice to pp.

PinkPearl
11-16-07, 09:43
Buisness, sight seeing and places like Sophie's that don't exist in Bangkok and the Khmer girls are smaller in size, gentler in look and different from the Thai girls.Those sound like valid reasons for some people preferring PP over BKK.

Personally I am in SE Asia for one purpose, and it's not sight seeing, unless you are talking about the meat that you don't eat.

Sophies, the BJ bar where several ladies take turns sucking your bare dick for two minutes each? Not my thing, but to each their own. I'm not so sure this kind of fun isn't available in a bar in Pattaya. In BKK one could always negotiate a deal with several girls for the same type of session, though probably pay much more.

Smaller size would be of interest to me. On a recent visa run to PP airport I noticed that most of the people were smaller, although I have seen quite a few women this size in BKK, and have had no problem getting together with some.

I cannot comment on the gentler, different look of Khmer females, but maybe after checking out the photo section I'll have an idea. At the airport I saw at least two very attractive young ladies working in food services. The abundance of Vietnamese might be even more of an attraction to spend some time in this country.

PinkPearl
11-16-07, 10:43
Mmm, maybe because the khmer are nicer people, it is cheaper, and the girls don't have tatoos and attitude.

And the police are not out to entrap or arrest people for anything, that's important to me. Nicer certainly goes a long ways. Though I don't find the Thai people so bad, I mainly deal with and spend time with the P4P ladies. While many of them have attitude issues or are not submissive, my modus operandi is to weed through the rotten apples till I find some worth sticking to. Then whenever I get horny I simply phone one to cum to my hotel room.

But I don't know how well this plan would fare in Penom Penh. To succeed ideally the ladies would need a phone and to be allowed into my hotel room for several hours at a time. Failing that they would need to be able to contact me in some way and stay at least one hour. Being able to speak a modicum of English wouldn't hurt either.

I understand that PP is generally cheaper than BKK. As a Canadian who can buy USD at at least par now, it is especially economical, since the USD along with the Riel is the currency of Cambodia. However reading about $30 ST and the same for a room does not inspire confidence that I will get a deal in PP, since I am typicly paying that in BKK. Would the service and accomodation be much better for those prices in PP?

Regarding the police in BKK, I have read that some like to pull over drivers for nothing and threaten them with a fine they can pay on the spot or at the cop shop. Aside from that I am not aware of any concerns for travellers and have not had any trouble. There are also stories about the tourist police being very helpful. PP, on the other hand, concerns me, with the recent report in this thread of one who was imprisoned and bled of his finances. Though perhaps that was his own fault for illegally taking nude photos of Cambodian women?

PinkPearl
11-16-07, 10:52
Because poor guys like me can't afford anything else! If you only have $50 a day to live on, you have to spend it wisely. Even in Pattaya, it takes a minimum of $30 for a night with a girl. If I go to cambo, I can get a girl for $10 a night. That leaves a lot left over for my living expenses. I can get LT every single night like that and it'd be within my budget. Could you do that in Bangkok?Very unlikely for any half decent looking P4P chick. Maybe some 60 year old grandma would take you up on it. What are you getting for $10 LT? I guess that same babe would be $5 ST.

PinkPearl
11-16-07, 11:22
And if you really want to take a girl off the market, it is only 1/3 to 1/4 the cost than to do the same with a Thai Girl or a filipina. Does off the market mean that she lives with you 24 hours a day like a girlfriend or wife? Or can you just see her every day when you're horny and she goes home after the deed is done, or maybe after dinner and a movie?

Speaking of movies, BKK has many theatres and English TV channels. In my area there are internet cafes and Seven Elevens every block, plus many Western restaurants nearby. My hotel is very convenient, located within the huge P4P scene and offers laundry and food services. I have no worries about the security of my person or stuff, and understand that hotel security will side with me if a problem arises with a lady. The security guards take incuming ladies ID cards.

How does PP compare? Can one buy a DVD player there to hook up to the TV in their hotel room?

Xdentx
11-16-07, 20:20
well, i have to correct myself. bougainvillier hotel is nice and staff friendly, but not girl friendly.

thing is, 70 to 80 % of the girls (especially in martini's and sharky's) do not have id-cards. no id-card, no girl. i once bribed the security guy with 5 $, but he insisted on maximum of one hour. and that's not wahy you take a girl out.

also, be warned: the building right next to the bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. from 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. this is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when i booked and said nothing. i had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise. as it is main seasons everything in phnom penh is booked out, so it had to be the interconti for the double cost. at least they're more girl friendly here. prices seem to go up here lately, probably because of much traffic from thailand diverting here. girls demand 20$ for short time, although most will still settle for 15 $. tuk-tuk driver scams gotten worse, especially late at night drivers demand 4 or 5 $ out of martini's. hire a good driver for the whole afternoon, 7 to 10 usd. it's worth it. i may be wrong, but to me it appears like there are a lot more **** girls working since i've been here the last time in july. even in martini"s the mama-san's try to hook you up with girls which are **** (and yes, they are. simply ask the girl for her age, compliment her on how gorgeous she looks and then ask her for her chinese horoscope. 99% of all case this won't match with the birthday she's told you before. one girl yesterday appeared to be no older than 13). back off, ngo people are everywhere. i may report more when i have the time.

c'u, kenny

thanks for the heads up. looks like i need to rebook somewhere else.

Saibb
11-17-07, 00:07
Just got back from 5 days in Phnom Penh and would give this hotel 2 thumbs up.
25 bucks a night felt like a bargain. Rooms like this in the French Quarter would cost 10 times that amount. Nice pool but, too cold for me. No restaurant even though they advertise one. Room service was cheap from a restaurant near by. 3 bucks a meal. The front desk will order for you. A few pics enclosed.
Later, Saibb

Member #2453
11-17-07, 07:43
Just got back from 5 days in Phnom Penh and would give this hotel 2 thumbs up.

25 bucks a night felt like a bargain. Rooms like this in the French Quarter would cost 10 times that amount. Nice pool but, too cold for me. No restaurant even though they advertise one. Room service was cheap from a restaurant near by. 3 bucks a meal. The front desk will order for you. A few pics enclosed.
Later, SaibbIt would be great if you could post a trip report with the latest updates. 37 days to go

Gohan39
11-17-07, 10:48
Nicer certainly goes a long ways. Though I don't find the Thai people so bad, I mainly deal with and spend time with the P4P ladies. While many of them have attitude issues or are not submissive, my modus operandi is to weed through the rotten apples till I find some worth sticking to. Then whenever I get horny I simply phone one to cum to my hotel room.

But I don't know how well this plan would fare in Penom Penh. To succeed ideally the ladies would need a phone and to be allowed into my hotel room for several hours at a time. Failing that they would need to be able to contact me in some way and stay at least one hour. Being able to speak a modicum of English wouldn't hurt either.

I understand that PP is generally cheaper than BKK. As a Canadian who can buy USD at at least par now, it is especially economical, since the USD along with the Riel is the currency of Cambodia. However reading about $30 ST and the same for a room does not inspire confidence that I will get a deal in PP, since I am typicly paying that in BKK. Would the service and accomodation be much better for those prices in PP?If you've been curious about Cambodia then you should make the effort and check the place out. I like it there and have visited around 5 times now. If you don't like it after a few days you can return to Thailand.

Alot more girls are getting phones and the $25 rooms at the Angkor international Hotel are only $10 on 4th floor. In some hotels without a lift the higher the floor the deeper the discount. 5 minute walk to by the riverfront.

The bars on the riverfront (most are advertised in the free tour booklets) are within walking distance and good chance of finding girls that can speak English. $20 and up depending on the girl and your negotiating skills.

My advise would be on the 1st day or 2 hire a Driver with a car and pay $20-25 to get the lay of the land.

Cepu19
11-17-07, 10:55
Just got back from 5 days in Phnom Penh and would give this hotel 2 thumbs up.

25 bucks a night felt like a bargain. Rooms like this in the French Quarter would cost 10 times that amount. Nice pool but, too cold for me. No restaurant even though they advertise one. Room service was cheap from a restaurant near by. 3 bucks a meal. The front desk will order for you. A few pics enclosed.

Later, SaibbThe double doors next to the reception is into the dinning room. Breakfast there (I think included in room?), but don't think they have a resturant as such.

It got the name when some joker dropped a grenade in to the foyer in the 1990s, it blew up but no one were killed. I suppose that was "big luck"!

Cepu19
11-17-07, 11:06
I was in PP a few weeks ago. Not much punting possible in my circumstances but the Walkabout seemed to have the best selection for a long time. Went to Martinies which also seemed ok. Maybe things are getting a bit better in PP now? On the not so good side the river resturants on the other side of the bridge had no action at all only food! The selection in Sophies did not seem as good as last time. I missed Srey Phea my favorite. Never went to Sharkies this time but did do a bit of brothel stuff in Toul Kork and on the toll road near the airport (271 I think it is).

I have stayed at Big Luck, New York, Asia Hotel, Flamingos and Lucky Lucky. I find Flamingos best value for money and best position. However the suite rooms in Asia Hotel are interesting with mirror walls and ceiling. New York good for the 7th floor MP. Easy but a bit expensive for what it is. The attraction of Lucky Lucky is that it is only $10 incl AC but out of the way and pretty basic rooms. Big Luck has got decent rooms but I don't think it got that little bit of "extra" the other places have.

Patarse
11-17-07, 14:02
Just got back from 4 weeks in Asia.

Went to Bangkok first just couldn't handle the mercinaries, so after 3 days decided to try Cambodia.

What a place, nearly every doable female is available, if the price is right.

Waitresses hotel staff, nurses (had a 2 day stay in hospital) hairdressers.

Unbeleivable!

And a few of the most atractive women I've seen in asia.

That doesn't go for places like Walkabout, what a load of skanky ice and yuma freaks in there. 99.9 are addicts. If you want a long time from there you have to pay part up front so they can score enough to last the distance.

But if something takes your fancy go for a short short time and you'll be ok.

Had a couple of reasonable lookig ones when i first arrived. they bounced up and down at 100mph trying to get me to unload in 5 minutes so they could get out and score.(or maybe to get awayfrom me) Doesn't work for me.

They got pissed off when I started laughing at them and told them it would take a bit more than that to finish me. Gave them $10 and told them to fuck off.

Had some good pickups from Martini's. But sometimes can be hit and miss.
Had the best threesome every with 2 ladies from Martini's. Had to repeat the following night to make sure I hadn't dreampt it. I hadn't.

Sharkys has an occasional good looker but didn't take any just played some pool.

Enjoyed a couple of nice ones from Rose bar too.

I had to return home early because of family reasons. So i'm off again on Monday for a couple more weeks.

I'll do a bigger trip report when I return.

You only live once enjoy while you can.

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Cheap Meat
11-19-07, 04:39
Just got back from 4 weeks in Asia.

Went to Bangkok first just couldn't handle the mercinaries, so after 3 days decided to try Cambodia.

What a place, nearly every doable female is available, if the price is right.

Waitresses hotel staff, nurses (had a 2 day stay in hospital) hairdressers.

Unbeleivable!

And a few of the most atractive women I've seen in asia.Wow. Next time I'd like to try the freelancer scene much more. Dealing with brothels and mamasans is not the way to go (too many ripoffs). With the average daily wage hovering around the $2 mark, our financial power is just awesome. Can't wait to wave $10 bills in front of the waitresses and maid girls. Man, is it going to be fun seeing them wilt under the temptation! I'm going to book at least two months in phnom penh. Can't wait to get back to the sleaze (and weed! ). LOL.

Member #3443
11-19-07, 10:30
You can do it any way you want taking a girl "off market". You can have her live with you 24/7 or just have her visit you when you want.

I suggest buying a "Region Free" portable DVD player if you are passing through Narita Airport in Japan. It will play all DVD's. I have bought DVDs from Japan, Korea, Thailand, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Mongolia, Chinese imports and all work on the "Region Free" DVD play I bought at Narita.

Xdentx
11-19-07, 18:52
Bougainviller Hotel Problems

I booked a suite at the Bougainviller Hotel on October 20, 2007. One month later the following current information on the hotel came to my attention through this forum: "be WARNED: The building right next to the Bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. From 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. This is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when I booked and said nothing. I had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise." In light of these problems, I tried to cancell my reservation (for January), but they declined to refund my deposit. I had to contact my credit card company to help resolve the issue. Nowhere on their web site does it say a deposit is nonrefundable.

NanaHawk
11-19-07, 21:18
There has been a little talk recently about reliable MotoDups in Phnom Penh and I can personally vouch for the service provided by Someth and attach his business card so that you also make use of him.

His command of the English language is as good as you will find and this will ensure that he understands your requests (believe me, this is a huge bonus in a city where there a lot of MotoDups but most seem to not know the tourist haunts). I remember on my last trip a request to be taken to the Boom Boom Room being greeted, by two different MotoDups, by a question asking if I wanted a Lady!! [For those of you not familiar, the Boom Boom Room is a shop to buy cheap music in MP3 or standard audio formats].

If you should decide to use him then please agree a price beforehand so as to avoid any misunderstanding and unpleasentness afterwards. And if you could just tell him that you saw his business card online then I will claim my free ride on my next trip.

Hawk

Mikespencer53
11-20-07, 04:07
I am planning a trip to Phnom Penh next month and will be staying for a week. I usually stay at the Phnom Penh hotel. I notice on my visit early this year that the Naga casino is building a hotel beside the casino. Does anyone know wether the hotel is ready for booking?.

Anonymous
11-20-07, 10:03
Howdy Folks,

This is my first post so I hope you find it useful. I have been living in Cambodia for a year now so I will endeavor to give an overview of the current situation. Bare in mind things change very quickly here! If it helps you to know – I am a 39 year old male in good shape and I speak reasonable Khmer.

There are many new hostess bars opening up. The newest include Manga Bar (Opposite Happy Man / next to Love Story) which has stacks of shy looking girls dressed as Japanese school girls with white shirts and black skirts. They look like they have been brought in from the provinces and have no idea what they are in for. I have not bothered to go back as I have my favorites – more on them later. DV8 is still a winner. Why bother getting a room when you can take two girls upstairs for a "game of pool" and roger them while they are bending over the pool table ($10 each). Slide the panites aside and BAM. Don’t get caught by management though! HAHAAHAHAA. The owner of 104 has opened 136 on St 136 next to Great Palm Bar. Same recipe as 104. Lots of pretty girls, most of whom you can BF ($5) and then fuck senseless for $10-$20 LT. Beware the Khmer ploy of "I never do BJ"which later becomes "ok I try with you for $10 extra". Fuck that. Suck it or walk *****. Clear things in advance. Dingo Bar (St 108 but soon to be renamed) now has some nice young girls in the bar who you can molest. The other night I fingered one while I drank my beer and she gave me a hand job under the counter while I chatted up a Japanese Dental Doctor with big tits! ; . P ($2 tip). Rose Bar on st#104 has some honies. Ask for Anny. Ex Pattaya ***** who will take it in the arse and fuck and suck you all night for $10. Great tits. All of these girls will bang for $10-$20. $30 is waaaaay too much. Don’t ruin it for everyone by overpaying. Walkabout is still skanksville. The other day I went in there with a colleague for a beer after getting pissed at a work lunch and this big titted Viet ***** got me so horny I broke my golden rule and took a Walkabout ho upstairs for ST. When she unstrapped what looked like big firm tits, they were actually low hangers AND. A first for me. She was lactating heavily. Far out man! I spent the next hour getting drenched and giving myself a titty job milkshake. File that one under E for experience. ($5 room / $10 milkshake). Be very careful in Walkabout. A lot of skinny HIV infested tramps. Sugar Shack has reopened under the watchful eye of an ex DV8 girl. Plenty of poontang to be fined and fucked. Sorry. I don’t do Martinis and I don’t do Sharky’s but I know that a stunning little Viet ***** called Janto who I banged a few times is freelancing at Sharkys so try find her. 41/2 feet of hard, smooth, tight asian honey with almond eyes that men would die for. Fuck she is so hot. I even got busted in bed with her by my missus. Not happy Jan; . Both Cyrcee and Mikado are going strong with lots of girls. $15 for an hour upstairs in a room but if you want to just fool around, lick your fingers at the bar and slide them right on in to those nasty little natches. At Cyrcee, Dee and Rose will chew each other out while you ream their holes. Nice work if you can get it.

It is easy as shit picking girls up off the streets in Phnom Penh. Hell, last week I even boned a young ***** who was working the counter at Pencil Supermarket! She gave me her number as I checked out a box of condoms. I rang her the next day and we went to a hotel in my lunch hour. ****! ($free) Prime areas are around Psar Kandal and along St#136. Just walk up and down on dusk and when you get eyed off by a little *****(s), engage her/them in conversation. Do what I did a month ago – take two of them into an alley and have them both suck your cock for $3 each. I cannot wait for water festival – it is going to be street meat heaven. Plus these girls will do anything for a few extra dollars. Photos, movies, shaving, lesbian doubles, your ironing. Enjoy.

The other day I was so fucking horny because my GF was on the blobs. So I decided to try my luck in one of the foot massage parlours on Monivong. Went in and picked out a Viet girl from the gaggle sitting in the foot massage room and without hesitation or asking I get taken upstairs to a private room. 20 mins later she is taking it so far up her arse her eyes were in danger of popping. I got fleeced though. $12 for the hour massage and then $20 for the anal reaming. Still, she wasn’t sitting down for a month so I was happy; .) There are many of these parlours along Monivong to explore. Another great spot to let the fur fly is the street#49 (same street that Cyrcee and Mikado are on). If you come out of Cyrcee, turn right and head over street #136 until you find yourself in a stretch of brightly lit parlours. Tonnes of young (but legal) girls calling you in. Take 4 of them for $5 each and play a round of 12 hole golf. Lots of corn holing and giggles all round. They are also available during the day.

The best thing to do if you are here is find somewhere/someone you like and get their cell number. The bitches here are as unreliable as hell though. One moment they are in the game and the next moment they aren’t. I have a core of ST bangers in my phone who I can call when I get the urge and if they won’t put out I ask them for a friends number for a bit of "surprise party"fucking. You never know what you will get.

All in all, Phnom Penh is pussy heaven for the hardcore. Cheap and truckloads of it with more arriving with stars (and soon my cum) in their eyes.

Hope this helps.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Toptraveler1
11-20-07, 23:28
Lord Smutty,

Thank you for your report but may you send some pictures of these girls?

Jazzy Daddy
11-21-07, 19:59
I was there in PP this past March and had a blast. I'll be there again in March '08. Janto worked at Le Crycee then and I just had to have her for a couple of nights(so cheap). You're absolutely right, she's a real hot spinner and great company too!

Howdy Folks,

This is my first post so I hope you find it useful. I have been living in Cambodia for a year now so I will endeavor to give an overview of the current situation. Bare in mind things change very quickly here! If it helps you to know – I am a 39 year old male in good shape and I speak reasonable Khmer.

There are many new hostess bars opening up. The newest include Manga Bar (Opposite Happy Man / next to Love Story) which has stacks of shy looking girls dressed as Japanese school girls with white shirts and black skirts. They look like they have been brought in from the provinces and have no idea what they are in for. I have not bothered to go back as I have my favorites – more on them later. DV8 is still a winner. Why bother getting a room when you can take two girls upstairs for a "game of pool" and roger them while they are bending over the pool table ($10 each). Slide the panites aside and BAM. Don’t get caught by management though! HAHAAHAHAA. The owner of 104 has opened 136 on St 136 next to Great Palm Bar. Same recipe as 104. Lots of pretty girls, most of whom you can BF ($5) and then fuck senseless for $10-$20 LT. Beware the Khmer ploy of "I never do BJ"which later becomes "ok I try with you for $10 extra". Fuck that. Suck it or walk *****. Clear things in advance. Dingo Bar (St 108 but soon to be renamed) now has some nice young girls in the bar who you can molest. The other night I fingered one while I drank my beer and she gave me a hand job under the counter while I chatted up a Japanese Dental Doctor with big tits! ; . P ($2 tip). Rose Bar on st#104 has some honies. Ask for Anny. Ex Pattaya ***** who will take it in the arse and fuck and suck you all night for $10. Great tits. All of these girls will bang for $10-$20. $30 is waaaaay too much. Don’t ruin it for everyone by overpaying. Walkabout is still skanksville. The other day I went in there with a colleague for a beer after getting pissed at a work lunch and this big titted Viet ***** got me so horny I broke my golden rule and took a Walkabout ho upstairs for ST. When she unstrapped what looked like big firm tits, they were actually low hangers AND. A first for me. She was lactating heavily. Far out man! I spent the next hour getting drenched and giving myself a titty job milkshake. File that one under E for experience. ($5 room / $10 milkshake). Be very careful in Walkabout. A lot of skinny HIV infested tramps. Sugar Shack has reopened under the watchful eye of an ex DV8 girl. Plenty of poontang to be fined and fucked. Sorry. I don’t do Martinis and I don’t do Sharky’s but I know that a stunning little Viet ***** called Janto who I banged a few times is freelancing at Sharkys so try find her. 41/2 feet of hard, smooth, tight asian honey with almond eyes that men would die for. Fuck she is so hot. I even got busted in bed with her by my missus. Not happy Jan; . Both Cyrcee and Mikado are going strong with lots of girls. $15 for an hour upstairs in a room but if you want to just fool around, lick your fingers at the bar and slide them right on in to those nasty little natches. At Cyrcee, Dee and Rose will chew each other out while you ream their holes. Nice work if you can get it.

It is easy as shit picking girls up off the streets in Phnom Penh. Hell, last week I even boned a young ***** who was working the counter at Pencil Supermarket! She gave me her number as I checked out a box of condoms. I rang her the next day and we went to a hotel in my lunch hour. ****! ($free) Prime areas are around Psar Kandal and along St#136. Just walk up and down on dusk and when you get eyed off by a little *****(s), engage her/them in conversation. Do what I did a month ago – take two of them into an alley and have them both suck your cock for $3 each. I cannot wait for water festival – it is going to be street meat heaven. Plus these girls will do anything for a few extra dollars. Photos, movies, shaving, lesbian doubles, your ironing. Enjoy.

The other day I was so fucking horny because my GF was on the blobs. So I decided to try my luck in one of the foot massage parlours on Monivong. Went in and picked out a Viet girl from the gaggle sitting in the foot massage room and without hesitation or asking I get taken upstairs to a private room. 20 mins later she is taking it so far up her arse her eyes were in danger of popping. I got fleeced though. $12 for the hour massage and then $20 for the anal reaming. Still, she wasn’t sitting down for a month so I was happy; .) There are many of these parlours along Monivong to explore. Another great spot to let the fur fly is the street#49 (same street that Cyrcee and Mikado are on). If you come out of Cyrcee, turn right and head over street #136 until you find yourself in a stretch of brightly lit parlours. Tonnes of young (but legal) girls calling you in. Take 4 of them for $5 each and play a round of 12 hole golf. Lots of corn holing and giggles all round. They are also available during the day.

The best thing to do if you are here is find somewhere/someone you like and get their cell number. The bitches here are as unreliable as hell though. One moment they are in the game and the next moment they aren’t. I have a core of ST bangers in my phone who I can call when I get the urge and if they won’t put out I ask them for a friends number for a bit of "surprise party"fucking. You never know what you will get.

All in all, Phnom Penh is pussy heaven for the hardcore. Cheap and truckloads of it with more arriving with stars (and soon my cum) in their eyes.

Hope this helps.

Lord Smutty

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Kenny Rogers
11-22-07, 00:25
this post reveals a few of the reasons {id, booked up, ngo, ****, etc}

why bkk is a superior choice to pp.i see your point, traveled to thailand quite a few times, but i still must say that i had some real nice encounters in pnh. picked up a nice girl at martini"s - she must've been early 30, but she was simply gorgeous looking, friendly and fun to be with, even out of the bed. there were a number of short-times with girls ranging from "so-so"over average to "whow". i wouldn't want to miss either bkk or pnh...both are nice if you know where to go.
i'm not into going with **** girls, although it seems to me (and i hope my fellow mongers here will excuse that statement, it is in no way meant to excuse exploitation of children) that because of their presence and the dudes being into that you get even better service from a goodlooking, 30ish lady.

Happy Harry
11-22-07, 01:16
Hi,

Ticket and tour booked in PP for 2 days at the end of this month.

Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?

Is there a good driver that you'll recommend? I've checked the ads and "Sam" is definitely making his own testimonials.

Lastly, if any1 would like to meet up for a drink and maybe monger 2gether, then i'll be happy to shout the drinks =D

Harry

Lee66
11-22-07, 05:36
And if you really want to take a girl off the market, it is only 1/3 to 1/4 the cost than to do the same with a Thai Girl or a filipina.
they really don't go off the marked, just become cherry pickers. Not a good idea as it helps drive up the price.

Tim Bone
11-22-07, 20:24
Hi,

Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?

Harry

Well my experience was they would take me there even though I didn't want to. Probably a good provision. There is one close to Choeung Ek the Killing Fields.

NanaHawk
11-23-07, 07:33
Hi,
Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?

Is there a good driver that you'll recommend? I've checked the ads and "Sam" is definitely making his own testimonials.
Harry

Hi Harry,

check out http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=671261&postcount=732 he really is very good.

Hawk

AncntFornicatr
11-25-07, 07:05
Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF

PinkPearl
11-25-07, 09:34
Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.

AFFrom a Google search, this seems to be their website:

http://www.flamingos.com.kh/

Tel: (855) 23 221640
E-mail: info@flamingos.com.kh
#30, St. 172, Sangkat Phsar thmey 3, Khan Daun Penh,
Phnom Penh, Cambodia

Kurt1962
11-25-07, 10:38
Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.

AFThese are the address details of the hotel

www.flamingos.com.kh/index.php
E-mail: info@flamingos.com.kh
Flamingos Hotel
#30, St. 172, Sangkat Phsar Thmey 3, Khan Daun Penh
Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Tel: +855 23 221 640

Kurt

Cepu19
11-25-07, 10:54
Not allowed to post e-mail addresses so not possible. Do a search on google and you will find their site simply their name followed by com dot kh. You can reserve there too. Find it a nice place near ground zero.

Bambuu
11-25-07, 13:10
http://www.flamingos.com.kh/

Happy Harry
11-25-07, 14:01
You could GOOGLE it.

Lol, otherwise if you're lazy then here's the w/s:

http://www.flamingos.com.kh/

Hope that helps,

HH

p.s. You need to verify your email b4 they will contact you directly.

NanaHawk
11-25-07, 14:08
Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF

Hi there Ancient One,

the Flamingo can be contacted here,

"Tel: (855) 23 221640
E-mail: info@flamingos.com.kh
#30, St. 172, Sangkat Phsar thmey 3, Khan Daun Penh,
Phnom Penh, Cambodia"

this is straight off of the Flamingo web-site so should be current

Hawk

RetiredForever
11-26-07, 16:02
Howdy Folks,

This is my first post so I hope you find it useful. I have been living in Cambodia for a year now so I will endeavor to give an overview of the current situation. Bare in mind things change very quickly here! If it helps you to know – I am a 39 year old male in good shape and I speak reasonable Khmer.Thanks for information very useful. Will be in PP sometime early January. Send me a PM if interested in letting me buy you a few drinks in exchange for a little local info.

Phantomtiger2
11-27-07, 01:23
Hi,

Ticket and tour booked in PP for 2 days at the end of this month.

Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?

=D

Harry


Harry, there are several ranges around PP. Some are bigger than others with alot more weapons of mass destruction to choose from. The big ones are actually outside the PP city limits, beyond the airport. Telling a driver may do no good as he may only take you to a place that is closer and may not be the best one.
Best bet is go to one of the ex-pat hotels (ex. Flamingo hotel) and other mongering holes/bars and let someone there tell them in native Cambo which one you are interested in.


PT

Lord Smutty
11-27-07, 02:19
Just a quick little update. Visited the following last night;

104; Most uninterested bunch of scrubbers I have come across in one year. Maybe it was exhaustion due to the Water Festival but they all needed a good rocket up the arse. One eventually came and sat next to me.I was watching the telly and every time i looked over at her she put on a lovely FAKE smile and then when i would look away she almost went to sleep. What a fucking disaster.

Rose Bar ; See above. Same Same.Bunch of dead above the shoulder bitches . One was even picking her nose for all to see.

Bar 136; The bar was PUMPING !! Stacks of chicks. Stacks of guys and basically a great night ! Had a handjob at the bar from my special little friend.Definately a favourite now.

Shanghai ; First time i have ever been there. Quite a few nice loooking girls but all a bit goody goody two shoes for my liking.

Home drunk as hell around....er.....not sure!

LS

Lvr37
11-27-07, 02:47
I have been to Phnom Penh for a few times.

I normally went to Shanghai karaoke with my buddy and at the end of the session took the girl who sit with us back to the hotel.

Here are some of the girls

Name: Victoria
Race: Russian
Age: 25
Face: 5
Body: 5, Skinny
Breast: Small
Skin: Rough
Pussy: Wet
BBBJ: 6
DATY: Yes
FK: Yes
GEF: 3
FJ: 5
Damage: USD100

It was out of ego that I took this Russian girl since I have never tried one before. My buddy took one too.

These two girls seems to be on drugs and hid in the toilet for a long time before coming out. Really a bad choice. Price was supposed to be LT but we let them go after the first shot.

Name: Han
Race: Vietnamese
Age: 23
Face: 7
Body: 6
Breasts: 32A
BBBJ: 3, reluctant
Pussy: Hairy
Daty: Not allow
FK: None
GEF: 2
Damage: USD50

A bad choice either despite the pretty face. She was so cuddly during the karaoke session but attitude changed totally once we got back to the hotel. She was just lazy. I asked her to leave after the first shot. She asked for tips but I refused.

Name: Cheng Mong
Race: Vietnamese
Age: 23
Face: 8
Body: 7
Breasts: 33B
BBBJ: 7
FK: 7
DATY: Yes, no smell
FJ: 8
GEF: 8
Damage: USD50

This is the best girl I ever had in Phnom Penh. She stayed till the following morning. We had two wonderful session.

Lord Smutty
11-27-07, 08:07
Damage: USD50Why in the hell are you paying so much money?

It is no wonder PP is getting expensive!

ls

Gohan39
11-27-07, 10:40
Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.

AFJust FYI but I had some things stolen from my bags on the 1st day I checked in to the place. The place has some bad seeds and I'm guessing it's staff. The door lock/latch can easily be opened with a coat hanger as I observed afterwards.

The room has a safe so I am at fault for being careless but nonetheless someone was in the room going through all my stuff.

Cowboy Brew
11-27-07, 12:51
Why in the hell are you paying so much money?

It is no wonder PP is getting expensive!

lsHe is referring to Shanghai KTV, NOT Shanghai Bar. Shanghai KTV is a more upmarket KTV joints near Phnom Penh hotel, with rows of girls, mostly Vietnamese, to choose from. The girl will accompany you for drinks inside a KARAOKE ROOM and the establishment charge USD6 per girl for them to accompany you in the KTV room to drink and sing song the whole night. But you are still expected to tip the girl USD5 to USD10 when you leave without her AND if you are taking her back for overnight, it is USD50, standard market rate. Heineken is USD3 to 3. 5 per can and Johnnie Walker Black Label is USD35 excluding mixer, which is charged on per can basis. The girls can speak Mandarin and Cantonese as the clientele are mostly Malaysia, Singaporean although the occasional Cambodian, Japanese and Koreans and the girls are mostly Vietnamese precisely because of these reasons. Most Vietnamese girls have fair skin!

Similar type of KTV include CASA, Mega, 99.

In fact, these KTVs are considered mid-range in term of pricing of drinks, girls, rooms etc as there are KTVs that cater exclusively to rich Cambodians that charge room by the hour with even higher prices for drinks. Example, ROCK KTV, X2, X0.

From Asian's point of view, the quality of the girls there are of course, mostly better than girls that you can find in Walkabout, Martini, Cycree. Fill in the blanks. And other pick-up joints in the mostly Westerner scene where the standard market rate is USD15 to USD30, all inclusive.

I hope this clear things up.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

MerryPenguin
11-27-07, 15:32
Why in the hell are you paying so much money?

It is no wonder PP is getting expensive!

lsAmen brother. Guys who pay over the odds spoil it for everyone. Let's work together to keep the prices low. If we all walk when the prices go up then they'll quickly drop them again!

Blunderer
11-27-07, 17:59
I too am a bit startled at the idea of anyone paying $50.

Was this a joke?