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Nazgylg15
03-16-19, 08:20
Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?I heard some nasty stuff about touristy getting into trouble from my tuk tuk guy. WG had trapped them with drugs. I know the tuk tuk guys talk a lot of shit, but it sounded scary.

Skyboy23
03-17-19, 12:52
Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.


Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.

Skyboy23
03-17-19, 13:01
I have tried many girls in Phnom Penh:

1. St 130 Girls.

2. Disco Bar girls.

3. Darlin Darlin, Naga World Girls.

Generally.

1. St. 130 Girls USD 30-60. Plus Bar fine. Ok Ok types girls.

2. Disco Bar Girls. A bit better than St 130 girls. (Freelancers).

3. Darlin Darlin Girls. Best of all the Phnom Penh Girls I could Spot. - Price Starts USD 100. Some girls even demand USD 200.

I prefer to take the Darlin Darlin girls. They are Sexy but downside is their tantrums.

Sky Boy.

LoveVegas
03-18-19, 00:01
Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.Thanks for your post good info. I'm staying at the point hotel next month.

BillyJ
03-23-19, 12:32
I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

Blanquiceleste
03-23-19, 17:54
I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?By design a nightclub is a place where one socializes meets new people that might lead to other things. Freelancers working in nightclubs are there for one reason only. Money in exchange for sex. So having game or no game in nightclubs which are known for hosting working girls is irrelevant.

You say the music in DD is way too loud, while you find the music at Pontoon acceptable? Most folks would think the other way round. DD is classy, Pontoon is a dive. In all the times that I have been to DD not once as a girl asked me for money to sit with me or talk to me. And I am not Chinese or Korean. The MO is as simple as it gets. Grab a beer at the bar, scan the place for talent that appeals to you. Find one, talk to her and make the deal. $100ST is the norm, although some folks claim to pay lesser or higher. No judgment. Pontoon OTOH does not get going before 1 am. The place is full of cheap twatpackers trying to land a freebie. I can't see the fun in waiting up till 3 am to pick up a drunk chick.

Not sure if you have read the thread here, but there are several clubs that have been mentioned and reviewed by seasoned forum members.

P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.

Forever69
03-24-19, 06:12
Billy.

I can give you a very good hint.

But I will not post it here it is a smaller venue. PM me.

When you can.

Paolo99
03-24-19, 15:05
P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.I'm pretty sure that he will not be comfortable in LE Cyrcee with many girls rounding you once you enter the place, and he will probably be scammed at 252 because he wouldn't take the step to talk about payment to the girl before going up in the room.

It seems to me that he doesn't want to pay also, but if he is willing to pay I would say the best thing to meet girls is not discos but bars on the riverside.

It's surely intimidating for a shy guy to go there alone when all the girls are already there, so the best thing in my opinion would be to go in any of the bars in the evening (around 5 or 6), pretend to be there just for the happy hour, and then when the girls will slowly arrive at work they will notice him and make the first move without intimidating him. And if he doesn't like the girls in that bar, just have a look at which girl looks good in other bars and go and sit in that bar the next days until he finds one that he likes.

WrongGuy
03-26-19, 12:32
Just wondering what is Thai friendly equivalent for Cambodia. I am visiting PP for a week. Have had a bit of success at thaifriendly for BKK and Pattaya but none for Cambodia.

Thanks.

DingoD
03-28-19, 07:21
Mate-I appreciate that you might be shy or lack confidence, but don't confuse this site with a dating site. As much as I and most other posters on the forum might think I have the charm, body and looks of Chris Hemsworth, it's the money in your pocket that these girls are interested in, so your lack of so-called "game" is irrelevant if you have the right amount of money to pay the right girl for whatever it is you are looking for.

Don't confuse dating with banging. Read the forum, take a deep breath, order a strong drink if that helps you and enter one of the 100 hostess bars and see if you can find yourself a good time, but expect to pay. Unless you are the ugly Hemsworth brother??

Have fun and be sure to post your outcomes.

DingoD.


I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

MikeM488
03-30-19, 04:28
Hi a few brief comments re this 1. See heading. Prob very unlucky if this happens but see point 2, 3 etc.

If you go hunting for young girls (you know what I mean) increases likelihood.

Found that although young ones are good for ego slightly older in safe range 20 - 28 give better perf.

Some in 20 - 28 range look young so.

If it looks like a scam walk straight away. Anything that doesn't seem just right. Walk - there are plenty others. Use your radar.

I deal direct with girls. Pimps for me = trouble. (not always but "cut out the middle man".

ID's can be fake but check if worried then ask questions like so what year were you born? When did you turn 18? Etc etc. You are smarter than then. Any hesitation = walk. Classic one tell them you can tell how old they are by the length from the wrist to the elbow (BS) tell you have medical training. See how much they protest. You are smarter than them remember.

Be careful of " can my sister come too" or doing doubles.

Pick up from bars and established places not FL or pimps.

Don't drink / smoke too much. Keep your wits about you.

Main thing is always keep your radar up and monitoring- as said before if it looks not right = walk. Remember you always hear about the plane crashes not the hundreds that fly safely every day.

NI.Just a little advice from somebody who has put in 60 days a year for ten years in the Philippines and then 120 days the last five years. If you think the girls is under 18. Don't go there. 90% chance she probably is. I can spot them and will just move on to other hundreds or thousands of girls. If you are not sure. Take a photo of the ID. It could be fake. So that is no guarantee. But it is better than no photo.

Not an expert on Cambodian ID. But the Philippines just pass a new law that make a national ID mandatory. Of course knowing the Philippines that will take three years to issue.

Under American law. Doesn't matter what the country allow on age. It is 18 minimum for United State citizen.

Cucumber
04-01-19, 19:47
I stayed in the Sun and Moon Hotel on 136 Street, known by locals (who often didn't understand which hotel I was talking about) as "Sunmoon". The rooftop pool has a nice setting, but is a little short for laps (ca 16 m), but ok for light swimming. The hotel requires all guests to present original ID and register upon entry. If one has not booked the room for two people, there is a surcharge for the guest.

The hotel is right in the middle of the biggest action. Lots of girlie bars. Not really my kind of thing, because you have to walk a lot, there is a lot of bait and switch (prettiest girls outside to lure you in, but they won't go home with you) and difficult to get an overview of where the girls you really like are. But the sum of all the bars is a lot of girls, and there are some gems among them.

Prices are not low. USD 50 for girl, 10 for barfine, and often it would turn out the girl didn't have an ID (in spite of me asking her in advance), so 10-15 for a short-time hotel.

But a great grungy atmosphere walking around the streets.

On the last night I made it to Cyrcee. They only took 40 USD for the girl and 10 (USD for barfine. Great lineup, not a single other customer in there, some very cute and friendly girls. Three of them massaged me for 15 minutes trying to get me to choose them. The spinner I finally choose was one of my two best lays in Phnom Penh.

RjToons
04-03-19, 09:47
Hello.

Right now I am in Pattaya and planning to go to Cambodia for a week and back to Pattaya. I need the help regarding hotel to stay and enjoy with girlfriends. As I read the thread there are several places and streets for action in Phenom Penh. Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? I would really appreciate the response from seniors and Phenom Penh experienced one and all. Thanks.

Blanquiceleste
04-03-19, 15:59
Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? Stay at any of the hotels on the riverside.

1. Hotels on streets 130,136, 144,148, 110 etc.

2. Hotels facing the river between street 110 to 148.

Price range hovers between $20 a room night to $100 a room night. Use Agoda or Booking to check out the hotels for pics, room size, amenities, etc. Book online.

Top recommendations would be Lux Riverside, Point Boutique, Harmony, Ohana PP, Quay Boutique, Amanjaya Pancam, Sun Moon, Grand Mekong etc.

If you like gambling stay at Nagaworld, they have a pick up nightclub too.

XBoyX
04-03-19, 18:44
Planned a trip to Cambodia from April 13 and just found out it going to be the Khmer new year from 14 to 16th. Anyone been there during that time of year? Any different in quality of bar girls? Are girlie bars open during that time of year? Any recommendation? Thanks!

Skyboy23
04-03-19, 20:23
To the point Info provided by Blanquiceleste.

RjToons, you donot have to look any where else.

Enjoy.

Skyboy23.


Stay at any of the hotels on the riverside.

1. Hotels on streets 130,136, 144,148, 110 etc.

2. Hotels facing the river between street 110 to 148.

Price range hovers between $20 a room night to $100 a room night. Use Agoda or Booking to check out the hotels for pics, room size, amenities, etc. Book online.

Top recommendations would be Lux Riverside, Point Boutique, Harmony, Ohana PP, Quay Boutique, Amanjaya Pancam, Sun Moon, Grand Mekong etc.

If you like gambling stay at Nagaworld, they have a pick up nightclub too.

Skyboy23
04-03-19, 20:28
Yes, very true Cucumber.

I too experienced this may a times. Initially I thought they may not have liked me but slowly I understood it's way of there doing business.

They give lot of excuses. Busy, No time, Menstruation period, USD 200 , have to go Home early blah blah. Then they would say take my friend - so clearly bait and switch strategy.




there is a lot of bait and switch (prettiest girls outside to lure you in, but they won't go home with you) and difficult to get an overview of where the girls you really like are. But the sum of all the bars is a lot of girls, and there are some gems among them.


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Sam Sanuk
04-03-19, 23:14
Hello.

Right now I am in Pattaya and planning to go to Cambodia for a week and back to Pattaya. I need the help regarding hotel to stay and enjoy with girlfriends. As I read the thread there are several places and streets for action in Phenom Penh. Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? I would really appreciate the response from seniors and Phenom Penh experienced one and all. Thanks.I often recommend the Lux Riverside Hotel. It is at ground zero for sanuk (bars along Street 136 and only a block of so from many other bars). Couldn't be more convenient unless there was a bar in the lobby. Rates from about $45 and up. Several different options for a room. Can book using the hotel website or through the popular online booking agencies. I'm booked there for the 5th time next month--for 3 weeks.

The info provided by other board members is all correct.

After doing the BKK and Pats scene for over 40 years, PP has become my new playground for a lot of reasons. I hope you enjoy the difference--and it IS different. (Well, "same, same but different).

SS.

XBoyX
04-07-19, 06:51
Does anyone has an idea how Phnom Penh bar scene will be during the Khmer new year? Anyone has been to Phnom Penh in that time period? Should I stay in Phnome Penh or go to Sinhanoukvill during that time for mongering? Do bars stay open?

RjToons
04-08-19, 16:12
Sam, I really appreciate your reply. Thank you.

RJ.


I often recommend the Lux Riverside Hotel. It is at ground zero for sanuk (bars along Street 136 and only a block of so from many other bars). Couldn't be more convenient unless there was a bar in the lobby. Rates from about $45 and up. Several different options for a room. Can book using the hotel website or through the popular online booking agencies. I'm booked there for the 5th time next month--for 3 weeks.

The info provided by other board members is all correct.

After doing the BKK and Pats scene for over 40 years, PP has become my new playground for a lot of reasons. I hope you enjoy the difference--and it IS different. (Well, "same, same but different).

SS.

NewImage
04-08-19, 23:54
Stay at any of the hotels on the riverside.

1. Hotels on streets 130,136, 144,148, 110 etc.

2. Hotels facing the river between street 110 to 148.

Price range hovers between $20 a room night to $100 a room night. Use Agoda or Booking to check out the hotels for pics, room size, amenities, etc. Book online.

Top recommendations would be Lux Riverside, Point Boutique, Harmony, Ohana PP, Quay Boutique, Amanjaya Pancam, Sun Moon, Grand Mekong etc.

If you like gambling stay at Nagaworld, they have a pick up nightclub too.Hi be, would appreciate your thoughts.

Would like to stay at Lux but need a pool. Was looking at Sun & Moon but bit costly. Okay or Harmony? Thoughts please. Like quiet at night, walk to bars, good buffet bfast and POOL.

Appreciate any comments.

SouthEaster
04-09-19, 05:09
Unless you speak Mandarin and don't mind staying in a giant construction site you would be mad to go to Sihanoukville.

SE.

AskeAske
04-09-19, 15:38
I have not been in PP long time, but probably go some days next month. Do any have experience with Secrets, st. 136?

Sam Sanuk
04-09-19, 23:38
I have not been in PP long time, but probably go some days next month. Do any have experience with Secrets, st. 136?I can only provide a small bit of info I've read on another board. Drinks are among the highest among the RLD bars in PP. Not all females can be barfined. If wearing a red costume, they are supposedly available. If wearing white, probably not available for take out. You might want to check out this facebook page where Secrets and other bars advertise and you can read comments by punters. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1062695980532551/.

Coincidentally, I'll be staying on Street 136 (Lux Riverside Hotel) in May for 3 weeks. I hope I (and my wallet) survive. LOL.

SS.

Sam Sanuk
04-09-19, 23:48
Hi be, would appreciate your thoughts.

Would like to stay at Lux but need a pool. Was looking at Sun & Moon but bit costly. Okay or Harmony? Thoughts please. Like quiet at night, walk to bars, good buffet bfast and POOL.

Appreciate any comments.I don't know about the Okay hotel, but a friend has stayed at the Harmony. Relatively quiet and only a long block or 2 to Street 136. Same price range as the Lux. I have been in the room my friend had and it was nice. Not sure if the Harmony is guest friendly if that is a requirement. My friend had his "anchor" (wife) with him, so he can't say. I almost always email a hotel directly and inquire about any policies they have regarding guests. I ask a direct question and get direct answers.

SS.

Paolo99
04-10-19, 10:47
I don't know about the Okay hotel, but a friend has stayed at the Harmony. Relatively quiet and only a long block or 2 to Street 136. Same price range as the Lux. I have been in the room my friend had and it was nice. Not sure if the Harmony is guest friendly if that is a requirement. My friend had his "anchor" (wife) with him, so he can't say. I almost always email a hotel directly and inquire about any policies they have regarding guests. I ask a direct question and get direct answers.

SS.Harmony is shit. I stayed there one night and will never go there again.

Everything sucks in that place.

The guy at the front desk is an asshole, rooms are small, pool is small and full of people inside, breakfast sucks, the lift is always busy so you end up taking the stairs every time.

It's also way overpriced, but it's probably guest friendly as I saw some old barangs with some bar girls inside.

Okay is better but it's far from the river side, the pool is small also and breakfast was not the best but at least you've got a big room and the staff is professional.

Tomasb
04-10-19, 18:30
I stayed the Hotel Ok in the winter of 2016 and liked it quite a bit. The lobby is a bit ostentatious, and kind of Chinese looking, but cool and different in its own way. I did not think the pool was all that small and really enjoyed the rooftop view from there. I think it's on the 12th floor. Agree that the breakfast was mediocre amd it's a good distance from the river but there were always tuk tuk guys outside the hotel. The rooms had nice nice wood paneling and no problem bring girls in and they take their ID as extra precaution. I initially had stayed my first night in PP in a two story level type hotel next door with a nice garden level pool until I noticed a sign over the front desk saying all guests had to be registered beforehand. I moved out the next morning to the OK.


Harmony is shit. I stayed there one night and will never go there again.

Everything sucks in that place.

The guy at the front desk is an asshole, rooms are small, pool is small and full of people inside, breakfast sucks, the lift is always busy so you end up taking the stairs every time.

It's also way overpriced, but it's probably guest friendly as I saw some old barangs with some bar girls inside.

Okay is better but it's far from the river side, the pool is small also and breakfast was not the best but at least you've got a big room and the staff is professional.

Cucumber
04-11-19, 20:27
Hi be, would appreciate your thoughts.

Would like to stay at Lux but need a pool. Was looking at Sun & Moon but bit costly. Okay or Harmony? Thoughts please. Like quiet at night, walk to bars, good buffet bfast and POOL.

Appreciate any comments.I did a good bit of research trying to find a girl-friendly hotel near the action with a pool long enough to do proper laps (minimum 20 meters). In the end I gave up. The Raffles (reasonably central) may have a long enough pool (not clear), but is super expensive and not quite in the action. Across the river there is a one or more huge hotel complexes with big pools, but that is far away. In the end I gave up.

Member #4698
04-11-19, 22:41
I recommend the Himawari. The rooms are super large. The pool is great! And I mean great! The location is on the river in between Darling Darling and the Hostess bars which is not bad. The rates this time of year run between $92 - $100 for a deluxe suite w / bfst and the hotel is girl friendly (most important as many Phnom Penh boutique hotels with pools are not gf).

If money is no object, you can spend a lot more for more luxury at the Sofitel (great pool & gf), but the Sofitel location is not as good as the Himawari IMHO.

P. S. On those visits when I chose to stay at another hotel which did not have a swimming pool, I frequently paid $8.00/day for guest pool privileges at the Himawari. A pool in Phnom Penh is almost a necessity. 555

Hummer Bird
04-12-19, 02:46
Hello,

Been forever, but is Sharky's and Martini Club still flying? What about Heart of Darkness. Back in 2010 it was like 40,000 for a top caliber girl. What's the jam now?

Cheers.

Sam Sanuk
04-12-19, 04:00
Hello,

Been forever, but is Sharky's and Martini Club still flying? What about Heart of Darkness. Back in 2010 it was like 40,000 for a top caliber girl. What's the jam now?

Cheers.Sharkey is alive at same location on Street 130--different biz model now under newer barang ownership; Viet freelancers are gone. Customers are no longer mobbed when sitting down. Martini is gone--history; Heart is reportedly a primarily a gay venue now. Top caliber girls? Depends on when and where and whether short time or long time. Since 2010, pricing structure has changed. Influx of Asian punters has pushed up the price of poker. For instance, in Nagaworld, top caliber can cost $100 for short time or up to $200 for LT. Some of the same gals can be had later at Pontoon for maybe 1/2 that. In the hostess bars, you can get most gals for $30-$40ST; $50-$70 LT.

SS.

SouthEaster
04-12-19, 05:04
Sorry to burst your bubble but you are in for a rude surprise. Sharkey is a pale imitation of what it was. Martini, can't even recall if it is still going on 174 (but was shit a couple of years ago) and HoD is full of gays. As for 40,000 for a stunner? Knock off 3 zeros, make it US dollars and you may get a ST with a 7 or 8 unless you are a very hansome man. Good luck and report back.

SE.

Xpartan
04-12-19, 06:03
I did a good bit of research trying to find a girl-friendly hotel near the action with a pool long enough to do proper laps (minimum 20 meters). In the end I gave up. The Raffles (reasonably central) may have a long enough pool (not clear), but is super expensive and not quite in the action. Across the river there is a one or more huge hotel complexes with big pools, but that is far away. In the end I gave up.I'm honestly not sure if it's 20 meters long, I thought it was large enough. But it's absolutely gorgeous, and I've been told by other punters it's the best pool in town. Take it for what it's worth. And the hotel is in the midst of everything, couple of blocks from the river.

MikeM488
04-13-19, 07:41
S For instance, in Nagaworld, top caliber can cost $100 for short time or up to $200 for LT.

SS.I travel around a lot. Angeles city, Sosua, Pattaya. I never give a ten. Rare I see a nine (maybe in gogo bar Pattaya which I cannot afford). Some eights. More 5-7. I went to Naga world around nine and hung out to 10:15. Did not see any girl above a seven. Most were sevens and less. But if your rich hanging out in the casino. What $100 or more. Just a little effort will find better for cheaper. But its not my money.

Banana Boi
04-13-19, 21:58
Sun and Moon hotel. Agree definitely one of the top hotels in the RLD.


I never give a ten. Rare I see a nine (maybe in gogo bar Pattaya which I cannot afford). Some eights. I'm more restrictive to just the main RLD and Cyrcee but I have only seen one single girl who I would rate over a 7 in all my trips to PP. I haven't been recently but from photos I see of other's conquests I don't believe the PP girls became miraculously prettier. I hope I am wrong as I may be heading to PP as early as a couple more days as I am already sick of bloody Songkran in Pattaya.

Thanks Mike for pointing out the real issue with guys rating girls in Pattaya Lots of arguments on the Pattaya forum about no girls over a 7 but when you dig deeper the main reason is those guys who claim this do not barfine girls from the top gogo bars. I agree it's rare to find any girl above a 7 on Soi 6, Beach Road, beer bars, G clubs, etc.

LoveVegas
04-13-19, 23:04
I'm staying at the point next week and know it does not have a pool but for price and the room I got I booked it and no second thoughts. Has anyone found hotel you can go to during the day your not staying at and can drink and eat and its OK if you spend certain amount use the pool.com. I know in ac and subic they have some like wild orchard lets you. Thanks for any info.

Lucky Nuts
04-14-19, 06:55
In Feb I spent a few nights in PP. Went to the new Cyree which looks exactly like the old one inside. When I entered about 9 PM I was the only customer. I remembered how several of them immediately circled me a couple years ago so this time I quickly waved them back to their seats so I could enjoy a beer and make my selection. Yeah almost all were all 7's and below but at the far right was one that looked much hotter for my taste which is young and thin. It wasn't easy but finally I caught her eye and waved her over. She looked shocked and came over with a huge smile from ear to ear. Her english was only very basic. But she was able explain she had never worked before this night. After a few minutes I asked her about barfine and "for lady" and she didn't know. I waved over mama behind the bar and she said the barfine was $10 (I think) and she told me this girl had never worked before. She said $40 would be fair so that's what we agreed on. The girl could not stop smiling she was so happy or proud to have been selected out of all the girls working. It felt so good to see how happy this girl was to go with me. After a while she waved over her cousin that told her she should come work here. The cousin spoke good english so helped with our conversation. As you might have guessed we had an awesome session to remember. It was like she wanted sex more than me. While sometimes this game gets old experiences like this great night keep me in the hobby.

Jktnoobie
04-15-19, 09:54
Spent a few days in PP, I haven't visited for over 10 yrs.

Generally, the girls in the bars on St 104 down to St 130 were 6's or 7's, with the occasional 7. 5. All the 7. 5's and many of the 7's did not go out with customers. I'm told that most of the 7. 5's - 9's are in Sihanoukville or Naga casino where they are asking $100 for ST. In terms of prices and quality of girls, I would say the air-conditioned bars here are comparable to the beer bars in Bangkok / Pattaya.

Air Force bar St 104 Took a skinny and cute one for $40ST, barfine was $10. Maybe 3-4 pretty ones in this bar, but forgot to ask if the others will go with customers.

Heart Break (bar first cross street (parallel to Sisowath Quay) between St 110 and St 118. Has 3 cuties but none will go out with customers. Ask first, they will tell you which ones will go with customers.

LE Cyrcee bar St 130 all the girls here will go with customers, the downside is that most are 6's with maybe only two 7's. Took a pretty one for $70 LT, barfine was $10. Very skilled, great BJ. She left after 4 hrs and 2 rounds.

Black Pearl bar St 172 found a cute Vietnamese girl here, a solid 7+ with great boobs and speaks decent English. Agreed on LT for $80, barfine was $10.

OneZeroFour bar St 104 seems to be many Korean or Japanese customers here. 3-4 pretty ones but unfortunately a chubby one latched on to me and I had to make a run for it. : the Not sure if the pretty ones go with customers.

Food.

Many similarities to Vietnamese food (sour soups with fish and vegetables, grilled beef / pork) and Thai food (the curries are much less fiery and the amok is similar to Thai hor mok). The desserts also look similar to Thai desserts but I wanted to avoid ice and didn't try any.

-Romdeng (St 174) has high end Khmer food. It's not air-conditioned like most Phnom Penh restaurants, but it was very cool in the garden. Food was OK, I only went there for the tarantula.

-Food court at Sorya Centre Point is a good place to eat Khmer food in an air-conditioned environment.

-I also ate at various local restaurants between St 130 and St 172. The grilled beef is very good, not sure if this is Khmer or Vietnamese. The noodles were disappointing, not as good as Vietnamese or Thai noodles.

-Sara Ethiopian restaurant (St 172, near corner of St 13) was surprisingly good.

Transport.

I used PassApp for tuktuks and Grab for cars. A Grab car from Riverside area to the airport was about $7. I was quoted $12 for a taxi from airport to Riverside.

SIM card.

The Smart shop at Sorya Centre Point got me a good deal, $2 for SIM card and 10 GB data, good for 7 days. Better than the packages they had at the airport which cost $6 and up.

Fast Eddie 48
04-18-19, 00:17
Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?To Sandy1984.

Just be careful ask the girl how old she is and ask to see a ID and returning to hotel ask the security to hold the girl ID and allow anyone enter your room and call the security if you think it is a scam you will be scam newbie.

Fast Eddie 48.

Banana Boi
04-18-19, 13:13
Sandy1984, further to Fast Eddie's reply if you are concerned about scams you're likely much safer taking a girl from one of the many bars in the RLD. Chances of a scam not as likely if there is a bar involved. Keep in mind working in a bar in PP does not necessarily mean she is of legal age. If she looks close to legal age check her ID or better yet let your hotel check her ID.

Banana Boi
04-18-19, 14:30
Thanks for your review Jktnoobie.


I'm told that most of the 7. 5's - 9's are in Sihanoukville or Naga casino where they are asking $100 for ST.

Yes, the girls in Darling Darling at Naga World are generally better than the ones in the RLD bars. Interesting about Sihanoukville. Can anyone confirm nice girls are actually leaving PP to work there?


Heart Break (bar first cross street (parallel to Sisowath Quay) between St 110 and St 118. Has 3 cuties but none will go out with customers. Ask first, they will tell you which ones will go with customers.Is this a new very bad trend happening in PP? I know there are some bars that may have a couple of girls who are 'original' but I haven't come across a bar where the entire lineup does not barfine. I can see why a bar would prefer girls not to barfine but girls make so little on drinks that they don't make jack unless they barfine.



I used PassApp for tuktuks and Grab for cars. A Grab car from Riverside area to the airport was about $7. I was quoted $12 for a taxi from airport to Riverside.
Are Grab cars allowed to pick up passengers at PP airport?

Fast Eddie 48
04-18-19, 22:15
Thanks for your review Jktnoobie.To Banana boi.

I think taxi need to paid a fee to pick up inside the airport that is why they charge so much more, if you go outside the gate and get a taxi is much ness I was offer by a motobike last yr 2 usd to central market if you have only a small pack is OK but I have one large luggage.

Fast Eddie 48.

Blanquiceleste
04-20-19, 10:25
Is this a new very bad trend happening in PP? I know there are some bars that may have a couple of girls who are 'original' but I haven't come across a bar where the entire lineup does not barfine. I can see why a bar would prefer girls not to barfine but girls make so little on drinks that they don't make jack unless they barfine.I think he meant the 3 cuties would not go out with customers. He follows up by saying you can ask them which ones will go. I think.


Are Grab cars allowed to pick up passengers at PP airport?Yes, no problem at all. $7 to riverside hotels on Grab or PassApp. I have used both.

GreenBud
04-20-19, 22:32
Are Grab cars allowed to pick up passengers at PP airport?When you call a Grab, the App will say meet at the preferred location which is just outside the main gate. The distance from the airport door to the main gate is very short. But it is still a pain to walk outside.

I'm not sure if the Grab car is allowed inside the airport parking lot, or if it is just more convenient for him to meet his customer outside the main gate. If you want, I guess you can call him to meet you at the airport drop off / pick up curb.

LoveVegas
04-23-19, 03:25
Where is the best place get massage in this area 130 136 street thanks.

Blanquiceleste
04-24-19, 00:42
Visiting PP between 27 Apr and 05 May.

A while ago Sam Sanuk had reported on a place named New Night World, a local music / karaoke bar scene. Does anyone know the exact coordinates to this place!?

And are there other local bars / clubs / karaoke joints off the beaten path? Looking to explore a bit beyond the obvious. All suggestions welcome.

Jktnoobie
04-24-19, 06:14
Visiting PP between 27 Apr and 05 May.

And are there other local bars / clubs / karaoke joints off the beaten path? Looking to explore a bit beyond the obvious. All suggestions welcome.While not exactly off the beaten path, I saw 4-5 (Vietnamese-style?) KTVs on St 118, near the junction with St 13 or St 15. No names, just a large number (the address) on the front followed by the word KTV. I only say Vietnamese because the outside reminded me of the naughty KTVs in HCMC.

Please note I have not been inside, it was only a short trip and me mates preferred to spend time in the tried and tested bars.

Jktnoobie
04-24-19, 06:20
I think he meant the 3 cuties would not go out with customers. He follows up by saying you can ask them which ones will go. I think.That's right, there're maybe 6-7 girls in the bar and only the 3 cute ones do not go with customers. There others were maybe 5's or 6's so I passed.

Poon Hunter
04-24-19, 11:39
Where is the best place get massage in this area 130 136 street thanks.Yesterday, I went to Monsoon Massage on st. 130. Had two MILFs working and smiling. Started the oil massage, was rubbing my legs and brushing up on the balls. Typical upsell, but crazy prices. I was laughing. They would not budge. Quoted FS $100 and BJ $50, must be at your hotel. She was telling me she would totally hang out with me all night.

I told her I would rather get a young hot chick at a bar on 136 for LT $70+10. She would not budge from her prices as she was giving me a $15 HJ which was excellent!! She wanted $5 more for rubbing her ass and pus.

Overall: $12 oil massage for a full hour and $20 for a great HJ and playing with her ass.

Blanquiceleste
04-24-19, 15:26
While not exactly off the beaten path, I saw 4-5 (Vietnamese-style?) KTVs on St 118, near the junction with St 13 or St 15. No names, just a large number (the address) on the front followed by the word KTV. I only say Vietnamese because the outside reminded me of the naughty KTVs in HCMC.

Please note I have not been inside, it was only a short trip and me mates preferred to spend time in the tried and tested bars.Thanks. I will give them a spin and report back.

Jktnoobie
04-24-19, 15:36
I think he meant the 3 cuties would not go out with customers. He follows up by saying you can ask them which ones will go. I think.That's right, there're maybe 6-7 girls in the bar and only the 3 cute ones do not go with customers. There others were maybe 5's or 6's so I passed.

LoveVegas
04-28-19, 21:17
I was at point last week and checking in late night around 11 pm this room I booked 3 months in advance and payment then at booking so I thought everything should be real smooth. First the guy at front desk at night late is just a moron. Every night I came in 3 or 4 am he is dead sleep and never knew anyone had came in that's every night. But when I checked in went to room totally wrong room I had paid for the king suite they nicest room they had with king bed which I had emailed them and confirmed and all was good too go. After saw the room came back down told him this is not the right room he gave me keys to another room this was room with king bed but still not the king suite. I said its late I'm going take it and go out bars deal with this in the morning someone else that can help me better. I wake up and its 8 am and hot as crap in the room I dint notice it when I went out figure took awhile to cool down the A/C not working at all in room 903. Went downstairs told the lady working, she said yea I'm sorry we already called about it we know its not working. I'm like wtf why would you put me in that room then if A/C not working she said guy at night should have known about it but then again hes moroon. So move again around 1 first day and my king suite room 701 was good went to the frig and it don't work at all. Its over 100 everyday and when I paid said had frig so I go back downstairs and ask about that she said all the frigs int he hotel don't work we have none that work but they are still in the rooms and all? Sorry but when you come in and at night want something cold to drink its nice having a frig. Other than all that my room was good. Place just need some better help at front desk and spend some money just on frig in every room at least if you advertise you are getting one.

Paolo99
04-29-19, 07:57
Its over 100 everyday and when I paid said had frig so I go back downstairs and ask about that she said all the frigs int he hotel don't work we have none that work but they are still in the rooms and all? Sorry but when you come in and at night want something cold to drink its nice having a frig. Other than all that my room was good. Place just need some better help at front desk and spend some money just on frig in every room at least if you advertise you are getting one.How can they have all the frig in every room being out of service at the same time? It's impossible.

LoveVegas
04-30-19, 01:05
How can they have all the frig in every room being out of service at the same time? It's impossible.Its so true I talked to 3 people at front desk and all told me that. I was in three rooms all them didn't work at all. Also saw the owner or general manager that owns point and the lavona I think is the name of it. He asked me how things going just told him the short version of my first day but told him that I was upset that my room has frig and it don't work. He said yea the y'all dint work and trying to get new ones or something, this might seem small point but its over 100 every day and you come to room you have nothing. Or wake up with your gal and have nothing cold freaking sucks. No idea what's the hold up or why you still have them even in the rooms and don't work. But yes every one tell me how I could be in 3 rooms and all them don't work even that is hard to believe.

Blanquiceleste
05-06-19, 03:48
This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer – My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.

Top Ten Highlights.

1. The market is distinctly dominated by groups of young to middle-aged Chinese men, flush with money to blow. And the market is responding.

2. This dominance is slowly but surely spreading into the mongering world too. In my last visit here in Aug 2018, this was not so prominent (except in Nagaworld), but this time almost every single bar, disco, club, or lounge had a significant Chinese population who were indulging the top girls and having a ball, throwing around money like it were going out of style.

3. The older (read above 60) Western monger has been relegated to a distant third spot, having to only satisfy his urges with the ugliest available women. Purely my observation. Disagreements are welcome. It's one man's view of the world.

4. That leaves the shallow middle to every one else. This means younger Western dudes, well dressed, well groomed, well behaved Indians, Malaysians, Arabs, etc.

5. A disturbing fact I encountered with several girls in my conversations (in specific places only)– a three-tiered pricing structure seems to have emerged. The standard ST of 1 hour, negotiable to 2 hours with 1 pop. The LT which we all expect to be a long and leisurely session usually lasting overnight with 2 to 3 pops is now being interpreted by the girls as 4-5 hours, with no more than 2 pops. Which means, girl comes in at 12 midnight, wants to leave by 4 am or 5 am. And this gives passage to the third price point – presenting the "Overnight", for which the girls ask for even more money. And we think the girls are dumb! Of course, some of them do come back to earth once they know you are not a pushover, but there are the divas and golden pussies who don't budge. So while the basic service and price has not moved much at the lower end, the higher segment's services have been redefined and a repackaged service at even higher price segment has been introduced. Marketing genius.

6. The food in PP continues to enthrall me and I am an absolute sucker for Asian food. Although on this trip I did not get to sample too many new places. Just 3 new places. At other times I stuck to some tried and tested places.

7. There is nothing to do in PP till the bars start opening up and girls start coming in by 7 pm. This is purely from a hobbyist's perspective. If you like those rub and tug massage shops, or places like LE Cyrcee then more power to you. Not my gig. Pickings online are very very slim. Recommendation would be to build up a small reliable list of girls who can come in the afternoons to help beat the monotony. Or you manage to keep the overnight picking long enough (won't happen).

8. Expect at least 40% to 50% of the girls in bars to say NO to barfine. This is a growing trend, one that is dangerous and has the potential to completely disrupt this market for us. The reason for this is often repeatedly discussed here ad nauseum. Hence, my recommendation would be to ask the girl that captures your fancy right up front, about her willingness to go out with you. Else, you will be poorer by $10 to $12 on each encounter, with nothing to show for it. You might think it's a kinda dick move to ask the girl up front without building chemistry, as PP is not Pattaya or Angeles where girls are more realistic about their line of work, they need to be made comfortable, yadda yadda. Your choice.

9. Pontoon has has a new owner and with that comes new rules. More on this later.

10. Petty crime rate is probably up. More than 70% of the girls I spoke to said they had either themselves been a victim of phone or chain snatching or they knew a very close friend or relative who was a victim. So if you are on ground stay sharp, never take your phone out on the road, do not dress flashily (some folks need a serious upgrade though), never carry more cash than you need and never trust anyone you speak to for the first time.

Over an eight day period I managed to meet several girls from different sources – bars, clubs, online, etc. I won't go into details of which girl came from where and what we did and how much I paid her. All that is YMMV frankly. But I will write about my observations of each place I visited and of course my opinions and recommendations. I base my opinions on a few criteria in the order priority for me.

1. Quantity of girls.

2. Quality of girls.

3. Aircon and general cleanliness.

4. Staff friendliness.

5. Pushiness for drinks.

6. Pricing.

7. Added attractions like a pool table or live band.

Based on these, I think Darling Darling wins hands fucking down by a mile. Except for the prices, they have it all and more. Frankly, its like comparing a Ferrari with with a Proton Saga and there is nothing quite like it in Phnom Penh. But there is an emerging contender IMHO, and has potential. More on that later.

So let us move to the bars, which are accountable for 80% of the working girls in Phnom Penh. I am breaking it down into best bars, middle ground and worst bars to keep it simple.

The best bars.

I think in terms of both quantity and quality among conventional bars the top prize goes to Tokyo Bar and Alaska Bar, both sitting side by side on St 136. The ladyboy mamasan in Alaska can be terribly annoying and you just have to deal with that, no way around it. Even if you buy him / her a drink he / she will continue to behave annoyingly. The girls at Tokyo Bar look exceptionally young, if you know what I mean. Be careful, use your common sense and rely on evidence alone. Lady drinks are $3. 5. A draft costs $1. The pool table at Alaska is bad. Aircon is just OK in both places, maybe because they are not fit to handle the crowd that comes in each night. Every night they were packed wall to wall with girls and customers. Hard to get a place to sit sometimes.

Not quite in the same league but I would include bars like Xanadu, Angry Bird, Intoxica, OneThreeSix, Corner 136 Bar, and Route 136. Although, Corner 136 Bar is a total rip off and quality is far more worse than average in Route 136. OneThreeSix bar has a live band playing 3 days a week, girls are quite nice and friendly. There is a stunner there who continues to elude me for over a year now, says she does not barfine and this statement has been corroborated by other girls at that bar. Intoxica has been in the press for all the wrong reasons in the past, this time they were OK, girls are a bit pushier than other bars here.

The wide and shallow middle bars.

This is where 80% of all bars will fall, instinctively. Firstly none of them have more than 8 to 12 girls at any point in time. Not more than 2 to 3 of them will be worth buying a drink for. Probably 1 or 2 of these will agree to a barfine. Almost all of them have similar infrastructure in terms of seating, aircon, cleanliness, staff behaviour and so on. But we aren't ranking bars, we are grouping them. I must have gone inside 80% of the bars on Streets 136,130, 118,110 and 104. You do the math. A few that I remember (for obvious reasons) are Dream, Jacky, Helicopter, 69 Bar, Tiger, Crazy Dog, Yellow, Top Ten, Na Na, Rodeo, Utopia and Honeypot. They were probably the better ones among this lot, for varying reasons.

The worst bars.

Now these deserve to be grouped among the worse simply because they perform very poorly on each of the above criteria and you would wonder how they are still in business. I know this might offend some folks, but here goes.

1. Airforce – This bar should be shut quickly. Situated on St 104, this place smells like a dungeon. The women inside look like prisoners. Staff need some lessons in how to smile even when they don't want to. Prices on par with other bars.

2. OneZeroFour – This used to be a great bar back in 2017 when I was there, but now this place is a shithole. Its on St 104. The fat mamasan will get herself a drink even when you tell her no drink. Bill can be padded. You can stay and argue, I consider my time more precious. One of the days I went there, and 3 girls followed me inside. Couple of them were OK. I asked them "Do you barfine? They did not even reply, just turned and walked back out.

3. Rose Bar – I never thought I would ever say this, as Rose was my top bar last year in PP. Sadly they have just fallen off a cliff. One day while at St 104 I peeked inside, there were 5 girls (if you can call them that), 1 customer (the poor sod), no music, no aircon. Why will anyone want to look any further?

4. I Get You Bar – St 136. Uggghhhh! What did I just see? One of the ugliest collection of girls. End of story.

5. Frog Skin Bar – St 5. Just 1 doable girl, who does not barfine. Why stay in business?

6. Bird in Hand – St 5. A name like that generates hope. But that is as far as they get. And the music is WAY too loud.

7. All the bars at Golden Soraya Mall in the new Pub Street complex. What an abomination.

Moving on to KTV's. I simply wanted to explore what might be available but quickly realized that I wasn't about to get any poon in these places without dropping a decent dollar. Plus some of the larger places are good only if you are in a group, willing to blow money, out to have a good time and have a local guide of sorts who can speak the language. Else you won't know what hit you.

Next up, clubs and discos. Apparently ownership of Pontoon has changed hands and the new Chinese-Cambodian owner is out on a mission to gentrify the place. So, grandpas and grannies out. Guys in shorts and flip flops out. Provocatively dressed working girls out. I wonder who is left, who might go to Pontoon. By the way all this information is coming from an assortment of the girls I met during my stay. All of them together would not lie.

I could not find time to go to Epic, Paradise, Club Love, etc. In any case, picking up a drunk chick from a club and 4 am is not my gig.

And finally, the rising star, the worthy competitor to Darling Darling I mentioned about earlier. Secrets on St 136. Very classy club by PP standards, spacious, clean, great aircon, excellent toilets, superb sound and visuals, live band (a bit off key but that is pardoned). A bit pricey, a draft is $3 while a JD+Coke is $5. Hendricks is $7. A Guinness is $5. Now onto the scene of real interest. I sat for a while sipping on my beer to take in the surroundings and understand how things work here. The club or super-bar (as one waitress referred to it) has been open for around 8 months now. There are 2 categories of girls who are on the club payroll. One are the waitresses in smart black skirts and crisp white shirts. These girls are strictly waitresses and they do not go out with customers. Then there are several girls in a black and red figure hugging sleeveless dress hanging about. You can buy them staff drinks at $4. 5 apiece. If things click between you two and you want to take her out, you have a buy a special staff drink for $20. Aka barfine. What you pay the girl is between her and you. Some very hot girls in there, a few would actually give some DD girls a run for their money. And finally, I am told, freelancers come into the club later as it stays open till 5 am. Naturally, for these FL there is no lady drink rule or barfine rule. I did not hang around to find out if the FL information was true. I did buy a hot girl a couple of drinks to glean all this information and also verified this with the bartender with a well-timed tip. This was a reconnaissance trip to Secrets for me, as I see a lot of promotion on FB for this club, but I have not seen any reports. I like what I see and I will be back here next time.

So that is all folks. Enjoy reading!

Sam Sanuk
05-06-19, 09:57
This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.So that is all folks. Enjoy reading!Great field report!

I'm currently in PP at the Lux. Been here for 3 nights. About my 10th time to PP. For various reasons, only pulled one night. Cute 20 year old (near virgin) from Pussy Cat bar on 136. A range of ones in their 20's and up. Newbies to hardcore. No padding of bill in my visits. A few worth shagging. Didn't negotiate price. Took her at 1 am and released at 9 am. Put $60 next to her purse and she smiled and said thank you. That was the extent of her English. LOL Another gal said it was only my partner's 12th day on the job, so you get the picture. LOL.

There is a facebook page called Phnom Penh Hostess and Girly Bars some might want to check out.

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Whoreman
05-23-19, 15:30
Top Ten Highlights.

1. The market is distinctly dominated by groups of young to middle-aged Chinese men, flush with money to blow. And the market is responding.

2. This dominance is slowly but surely spreading into the mongering world too. In my last visit here in Aug 2018, this was not so prominent (except in Nagaworld), but this time almost every single bar, disco, club, or lounge had a significant Chinese population who were indulging the top girls and having a ball, throwing around money like it were going out of style.
Phnom Penh sounds rubbish now compared to when I was last there a decade ago where there were plenty of brothels and hassle free freelancer venues. Who wants to waste time 'chatting up' some harlot in a bar? Surely there must be a few no nonsense brothels left with nice young girls.

Sam Sanuk
05-25-19, 10:23
Phnom Penh sounds rubbish now compared to when I was last there a decade ago where there were plenty of brothels and hassle free freelancer venues. Who wants to waste time 'chatting up' some harlot in a bar?Just returned from 3 shitty weeks in Phnom Penh. For sure, mongering for bargain prices has ended. Even average drink sluts in the hostess bars are quoting $100 (USD) for long time and many $50 for short time. Stupid money. Of course you can negotiate, but in over 40 years engaged in this hobby, that isn't my style. This is not just my experience, but that of many other trusted sources and reports. Even beer prices are way over-priced. Prices have increased at least 50% since I last visited PP 20 months ago! I just don't get it.

SS.

Blanquiceleste
05-28-19, 01:13
Just returned from 3 shitty weeks in Phnom Penh. For sure, mongering for bargain prices has ended. Even average drink sluts in the hostess bars are quoting $100 (USD) for long time and many $50 for short time. Stupid money. Of course you can negotiate, but in over 40 years engaged in this hobby, that isn't my style. This is not just my experience, but that of many other trusted sources and reports. Even beer prices are way over-priced. Prices have increased at least 50% since I last visited PP 20 months ago! I just don't get it.

SS.Hey Sam. I am really keen to know which bars you visited. I was on ground probably 4 weeks ago, and not one girl asked me anything more than $70 for LT. As for ST, I believe $50 is a fair rate so I did not bother to bargain. And in most places local draft beer is still $0. 75. If that is considered expensive, I am wondering what should be called economical. And if I remember right, 20 months ago was not that different. Hell, even the girls were the same in many bars. I have written reports in Sep 2017, Oct 2017, Apr 2018. They were not so different in pricing. I am wondering is I am missing anything.

The only place I got quoted $100 for LT is Secrets. But I thought the girls there looked better than the ones in the surrounding bars. With a bit of haggle they might have accepted $70-$80. I did not pick from there though.

LingBong
05-28-19, 01:48
This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.

Top Ten Highlights.^
GREAT REVIEW.
NOTHING BUT GREAT INFO

1. The market is distinctly dominated by groups of young to middle-aged Chinese men, flush with money to blow. And the market is responding.

2. This dominance is slowly but surely spreading into the mongering world too. In my last visit here in Aug 2018, this was not so prominent (except in Nagaworld), but this time almost every single bar, disco, club, or lounge had a significant Chinese population who were indulging the top girls and having a ball, throwing around money like it were going out of style.Great review!

Great read and great info.

Last time I was there was '96.

Things have changed.

Sam Sanuk
05-28-19, 15:21
Hey Sam. I am really keen to know which bars you visited. I was on ground probably 4 weeks ago, and not one girl asked me anything more than $70 for LT. As for ST, I believe $50 is a fair rate so I did not bother to bargain. And in most places local draft beer is still $0. 75. If that is considered expensive, I am wondering what should be called economical. And if I remember right, 20 months ago was not that different. Hell, even the girls were the same in many bars. I have written reports in Sep 2017, Oct 2017, Apr 2018. They were not so different in pricing. I am wondering is I am missing anything.

The only place I got quoted $100 for LT is Secrets. But I thought the girls there looked better than the ones in the surrounding bars. With a bit of haggle they might have accepted $70-$80. I did not pick from there though.I don't think you are missing anything.

Unfortunately, I only visited about a half dozen bars and only on Street 136. Advanced arthritis severely limited my travels on foot. If anybody saw an old fart hobbling around with a cane, it was probably me. LOL Should've had a cortisone injection before my trip. Also, a case of the shits kept me sidelined for a few days. The bars I patronized were the Pussy Cat, 69 Bar, Candy Bar, Moonrise, Sweetie and one or two others. Didn't try Secrets. I was aware of the pricing there. If you are missing anything, it is maybe the recollection of what the pricing has been historically in PP. Sure, the price of pussy has gone up everywhere. But it just seems like the prices in PP have escalated disproportionally in PP compared to other venues. I only barfined once. Cute 19 year old, 2 weeks on the scene. She was quite thankful for the $60 I put next to her purse in the morning. I, personally, did not get quoted $100. But my wingman was quoted that at 3 different bars. Yeah, the girls who quoted that were one of the top 2 (in my opinion) in each of the bars. You are right about $. 75 beers. Can't be beat except at a convenience store. LOL Fortunately, a former Soi Cowboy dancer I've known for 3 decades flew over to visit for a few days. And my married Khmer "girlfriend" of 22 years stopped by when she could. I'll be 78 in a couple of weeks, so I have about 50 years of fucking my way around SEA. Old school. With indelible memories of when "sanuk" was really "sanuk" and not like buying / renting a used car. I don't need a Ferrari to get me from Point A to Point be. LOL.

SS.

Blanquiceleste
05-29-19, 00:34
If you are missing anything, it is maybe the recollection of what the pricing has been historically in PP.

I'll be 78 in a couple of weeks, so I have about 50 years of fucking my way around SEA. Old school. With indelible memories of when "sanuk" was really "sanuk" and not like buying / renting a used car. I don't need a Ferrari to get me from Point A to Point be. LOL.I am relatively an infant to the PP scene, so my experiences are not clouded by history. For me, PP is currently the cheapest place to monger conventionally in SEA.

#RESPECT for the Golden Jubilee of your career. Keep it going.

Sam Sanuk
05-30-19, 03:52
I am relatively an infant to the PP scene, so my experiences are not clouded by history. For me, PP is currently the cheapest place to monger conventionally in SEA.

#RESPECT for the Golden Jubilee of your career. Keep it going.I'm older, but not yet senile. I can still recall my "infant years" of mongering and cherish them. And you and others here will also. Rarely, does anything stay the same. When I compare the current P4P scene with that of yesteryear, I don't complain. I accept it for what it is. In many ways the scene is much better: nicer venues, more options, the convenience of electronic communication, and the ease of getting a blow job. LOL.

In the 70's, getting a go go dancer in BKK who would give head could be a very real challenge. (True). Even in PP a decade or so ago, mongers used to complain about the Khmer girls not giving head—thus one of the reasons the Viet freelancers at Martini were often favored. The Viet girls knew how to perform and did without hesitation. Now, it seems the gals in both BKK and PP would rather suck than fuck, and that suits me fine. LOL.

So guys in PP in their 30's, 40's, and 50's should appreciate what they are experiencing at the moment: the lowest cost for mongering in SEA. For, in another 20 or 30 years, the bars will probably be outfitted with "virtual" bargirls and cost $300 per hour. (I'm sure the Japanese are onto this already. LOL).

SS.

Amanut
06-05-19, 22:25
My experience is dated to October and I have added my experience in the Vietnam threads. I am a tourist type who enjoys seeing the sites. I am not a monger, but am a man who enjoys playing Dating Site Roulette. I had spoken to three ladies who agreed to meet me. As luck would have it I landed in PP during Pchum Ben, a major Buddhist holiday where friends and family leave the cities to visit their families in the provinces. I was totally unaware of this and two said they were out of town. Number three was very welcoming but our interaction involved me to traveling with her and her family to visit a Pagoda and giving them rice and pretend money at the temple. A great cultural experience but it was clear that was not going anywhere so off to Angkor Wat I went for a few days of sight seeing.

I generally keep my plans very open so as not to get trapped and this time it back fired on me. The second lady told me that had she known when I was arriving she would have accommodated me however she was away with her family and was following her family's plans.

I got the same story from the third lady, but she messaged me later saying she would be arriving back to Phenom Penh while I was still in Cambodia. We met and she matched her pictures of a short, attractive, slim Khmer lady in her early forties with one child who did not live in her city. We made a quick stop to my room to change clothes at which point she sat me on the bed and demurely let me know that this would not be a free encounter. I believe the way she laid it out was that if I was looking for a relationship she was interested but needed to be looked after, and if I was not looking for a relationship she was interested but needed to be looked after. lol No terms were discussed, but from that point on it was clothes off reveling a very good body, fully and smoothly shaved covered only with a red g string. She seemed wide open to anything I was interested in trying. What followed was a passionate full GF BB session complete with BBBJ and CIP. We stayed together the next two nights and days, toured the sites outside the room, and slept naked together at all times allowing and encouraging me to nudge her wake at any time I had an inkling. The only times she wasn't naked were when we left the room. For this I paid the princely sum of $50 US when we parted ways. As I said money was never discussed and she seemed satisfied with my parting gift. She said she had only done this three times previously. Two times did not involve sex because her partner lacked the ability, and the third time was a one shot encounter.

She seems to have enjoyed herself enough to recently agree to meet me in Ho Chi Minh City for my upcoming trip in September. I am grey haired and older than many mongers, but for me Dating Sites with ladies who are mid thirties into their late forties are my preferred MO. From my experience these are very enthusiastic and giving ladies.

Blanquiceleste
06-06-19, 08:04
She seems to have enjoyed herself enough to recently agree to meet me in Ho Chi Minh City for my upcoming trip in September. I am grey haired and older than many mongers, but for me Dating Sites with ladies who are mid thirties into their late forties are my preferred MO. From my experience these are very enthusiastic and giving ladies.Seems like you have found a keeper. Good on you mate!

WilhemVonN
06-20-19, 19:08
This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.

Top Ten Highlights...Thank you Blanquiceleste for this super useful report.

I went to PP a couple of weeks ago (first time) and here's a few things from the trip:

Tuesday night:

First went to Street 136 around 9 pm I think.

Checked Secrets: nice and classy as described (for PP standards), live music going on, hardly any customers. Waitress jumped on me and wanted me to sit, I don't like being pushed so I stood for a couple of minutes just to feel the ambiance. Half a dozen girls in red top (aka barfinable) sitting nearby, nothing overly attractive, few couples or small groups in couches. I left and returned to street 136.

Streets were empty, bars too. Went to 136 bar (corner street 130 I think), live music - 1 girl singing and 1 guy playing, half the girls busy with a group of Chinese men in the back room. Left after a short while, returned later. Chatted with a nice-looking girl (7/10), good English, unfortunately had her periods. Not pushy at all for drinks, so just nice chat. A couple of other girls joined, eventually not possible to take them out. A really pretty one declined to make herself available. Lady Drinks were 3.75 $.

In between I went to Tokyo Bar, seeking shelter from the rain. Some girls outside were having dinner or not doing much, none approached me. Inside were a small group of young Asian men, who left apparently without any girl.

Tried next door Alaska bar, had a peak inside: completely empty, looked depressing as hell, so I stayed outside. Offered a LD to a very cute and very young girl (said she was 19, looked even less) who could not speak English, after 10 minutes of difficult exchange I asked her several times if she wanted to go with me or could barfine, but "no". Apparently the daughter of someone working at the bar (according to another girl). Other girls hanging around were not really attractive (for me a least) and they did not try to approach me.

Lady Drinks were 4 $.

General ambiance in both Tokyo and Alaska bars seemed to be of a rest day for the girls, clearly not looking too hard to get laid.

At the end (after leaving 136 bar for the second time), I went back to Secrets. This time at the entrance were about 5-6 girls in red tops clearly looking to attract the few potential clients. Two immediately grabbed my arms. They were pretty good looking (and young) so we went inside. Bought them LD, chatted like 15 min while live band playing well enough to be pleasant.

One of the girls was 21, name "Nin", pretty face and of course hot body at this age. Spoke average English. The other one I can't remember her name, a bit complicated. A tad below her friend face-wise, but 19 or 20 yo and eager to please. Could hardly speak English. Both were the "petite" type.

Around they were not many other red top girls and none as attractive as mine. It was around 23 or 23:30 so maybe the best-looking ones had gone with clients already?

Decided to take the two. They were surprised. Asked if I wanted ST or LT. 50 $ for ST, 100 $ for LT. Took LT for both. Barfine was indeed 20 $ each.

Decent experience in bed. "Nin" was not much into it but no problem to hug her naked in bed and to fuck, although quite passive (but what a hot body! The other was much more active, kissing, moving etc. Hardly any interactions between them, but I didn't care for that. Overall good fun, we fell asleep around 4 am. They were young and not much experienced, which was fine with me but if you're into PSE you would have been disappointed.

Next evening (Wednesday) I went out late (around 22:30) and went straight to Circee as I wanted to repeat the threesome experience but less costly and short time only. Was assaulted by 8-9 girls immediately (some others were upstairs with a group of Japanese men, as per the owner). If you're on the shy side, it can be a bit bothersome to be surrounded by girls begging to be picked (rubbing cock etc.). Chose two, paid 40 $ each for ST.

Next two days I spent with a girl I met on a dating site. But that's a different story and not needed here.

Cheers again for the information provided, really helpful especially for a newcomer.

JbbFourU
06-22-19, 08:35
Hello all,

I'm new to this forum.

I'm visiting to Phnom Penh next weekend and appreciate if you can share some contacts. Interesting to meet khmer girl.

Seeking advice where to stay and where to go.

I will start contributing once I make this first visit.

Thanks in advance.

Blanquiceleste
06-23-19, 16:35
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Sam Sanuk
06-26-19, 01:00
Did you bother to read the one post before your own? It has enough information to get started. And if you read a bit further back there is plenty more that will help you.Amen! A+ for being concise and on point. LOL.

Kyra89
06-26-19, 09:16
Hey guys,

As the title state I have a severe allergy to peanuts but decided to book my trip to Phnom Penh later next month. I do not speak any Khmer unfortunately.

After doing some searches on google I found that there were no specific recommendations as to where I could find a peanut free restaurant.

They did mention that I should only eat at restaurants that are owned by westerners so I would be able to communicate my allergy better. So I was wondering if there were any that you guys knew about?

I will be staying at Point Boutique hotel but am willing to travel to the end of the world (or at least Phnom Penh) for safe options! I am more than happy to eat strict western diet.

I've found that they have Burger King and I was wondering if anyone happened to come across items on their menu that would cause me some concern? Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?

I've learned so much on this thread about my main interests while in Phnom Penh and although this is a bit off topic and a shot in the dark I hope that I can get some information from people that have been on the ground.

Thanks in advance!

Kyra.

Blanquiceleste
06-27-19, 01:18
Hey guys,

As the title state I have a severe allergy to peanuts but decided to book my trip to Phnom Penh later next month. I do not speak any Khmer unfortunately.

After doing some searches on google I found that there were no specific recommendations as to where I could find a peanut free restaurant.

They did mention that I should only eat at restaurants that are owned by westerners so I would be able to communicate my allergy better. So I was wondering if there were any that you guys knew about?

I will be staying at Point Boutique hotel but am willing to travel to the end of the world (or at least Phnom Penh) for safe options! I am more than happy to eat strict western diet.

I've found that they have Burger King and I was wondering if anyone happened to come across items on their menu that would cause me some concern? Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?.You should be good sticking to strictly Western fare. Take different photos of peanuts in various forms and show them to the waiter / waitress and then cross your arms and vigorously shake your head to indicate "NO PEANUTS".

Stay safe and report back on your trip.

Another word of advice. The girls. Now they will eat peanuts. Local Khmer food uses peanuts in plenty of ways. If you are going to visit bars and expect to DFK girls, that could become a problem. Think about a strategy to overcome that.

Sammon
06-27-19, 01:46
Hey guys,

As the title state I have a severe allergy to peanuts but decided to book my trip to Phnom Penh later next month. I do not speak any Khmer unfortunately.

After doing some searches on google I found that there were no specific recommendations as to where I could find a peanut free restaurant.

They did mention that I should only eat at restaurants that are owned by westerners so I would be able to communicate my allergy better. So I was wondering if there were any that you guys knew about?

I will be staying at Point Boutique hotel but am willing to travel to the end of the world (or at least Phnom Penh) for safe options! I am more than happy to eat strict western diet.

I've found that they have Burger King and I was wondering if anyone happened to come across items on their menu that would cause me some concern? Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?

I've learned so much on this thread about my main interests while in Phnom Penh and although this is a bit off topic and a shot in the dark I hope that I can get some information from people that have been on the ground.

Thanks in advance!

Kyra.Peanut is a staple food in Asia. They make sauces, use in curries, roasted and mixed in fried foods. You should stick to salads without dressing. Fruits as is. Fast food joints may mix peanuts in their fare. Just because it said McDonald's or Burger King does not mean it is the same as USA. All brands vary their food according to local taste.

I suggest you carry epipen.

Kyra89
06-27-19, 08:55
You should be good sticking to strictly Western fare. Take different photos of peanuts in various forms and show them to the waiter / waitress and then cross your arms and vigorously shake your head to indicate "NO PEANUTS".

Stay safe and report back on your trip.

Another word of advice. The girls. Now they will eat peanuts. Local Khmer food uses peanuts in plenty of ways. If you are going to visit bars and expect to DFK girls, that could become a problem. Think about a strategy to overcome that.Thanks for the tip about having a picture. Definitely won't be any DFK and I'll probably buy some mouth wash to leave in my hotel bathroom for them to rinse. Do you think the girls will be okay with that? Don't want them thinking I put something in there.

Kyra89
06-27-19, 08:57
Peanut is a staple food in Asia. They make sauces, use in curries, roasted and mixed in fried foods. You should stick to salads without dressing. Fruits as is. Fast food joints may mix peanuts in their fare. Just because it said McDonald's or Burger King does not mean it is the same as USA. All brands vary their food according to local taste.

I suggest you carry epipen.Thanks for the heads up about the fast food places. I will be carry a couple epipens with me at all times!

Sam Sanuk
06-27-19, 09:56
...Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?...I suspect that "chains" in general should be good in that it is likely there is an employee on the premises who speaks and understand English. (Chains are usually franchise operations licensed by Western firms.) For starters, KFC and Pizza Company come to mind, although I believe Pizza Co. Is a Thai company that emerged from a dispute with Pizza Hut a couple of decades ago. If you are "adventurous" enough to stray from a "chain", I highly recommend Lone Pine Caf้. Owned and operated by a California man and his Khmer wife who are both on the premises during hours of operation and very "hands on". https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d7261942-Reviews-Lone_Pine_Cafe-Phnom_Penh.html Also, Mike's Burgers. Have been told that a Khmer dude who immigrated from the USA Started this place. No idea if he is still associated. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d2269904-Reviews-Mike_s_Burger_House-Phnom_Penh.html I know from personal experience and word of mouth that both Lone Pine and Mike's are well patronized by expats, tourists, and Khmer locals.

SS.

Kyra89
06-27-19, 17:57
I suspect that "chains" in general should be good in that it is likely there is an employee on the premises who speaks and understand English. (Chains are usually franchise operations licensed by Western firms.) For starters, KFC and Pizza Company come to mind, although I believe Pizza Co. Is a Thai company that emerged from a dispute with Pizza Hut a couple of decades ago. If you are "adventurous" enough to stray from a "chain", I highly recommend Lone Pine Caf. Owned and operated by a California man and his Khmer wife who are both on the premises during hours of operation and very "hands on". https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d7261942-Reviews-Lone_Pine_Cafe-Phnom_Penh.html Also, Mike's Burgers. Have been told that a Khmer dude who immigrated from the USA Started this place. No idea if he is still associated. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d2269904-Reviews-Mike_s_Burger_House-Phnom_Penh.html I know from personal experience and word of mouth that both Lone Pine and Mike's are well patronized by expats, tourists, and Khmer locals.

SS.Thanks a bunch man!

I'll check those places out and I've sent out emails to them as well as the big chain restaurants. Don't know why I didn't think to do it before.

DingoD
06-28-19, 01:04
Thanks a bunch man!

I'll check those places out and I've sent out emails to them as well as the big chain restaurants. Don't know why I didn't think to do it before.Also a great place for good food and service, and whilst I have no allergies, the staff here all hold a strong command of English that you should be right in communicating any concerns with certain dishes should you need to ask questions!

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d6414520-Reviews-Larry_s_110st_Bar_Grill-Phnom_Penh.html

Enjoy your trip and have fun.

DingoD.

Forever69
06-28-19, 02:41
Another option is eric kayser by the river. A french bakery with nice baguette, then there is lucky market with cheese dairy cold cuts.....

Kyra89
06-28-19, 04:55
Thanks for the food reccos! Please keep them coming if you guys remember any more.

I've been reading mixed reviews about Point Boutique hotel about AC not working, not being clean, them being overbooked. I was curious to see what you guys thought about going for the higher options to try and avoid these issues. I was going to either book the Deluxe Queen with window or the Junior Suite- King bed. Have any of you stayed At both or either that can provide me with some distinctions between both?

Thanks!

Sam Sanuk
06-28-19, 08:58
Also a great place for good food and service, and whilst I have no allergies, the staff here all hold a strong command of English that you should be right in communicating any concerns with certain dishes should you need to ask questions!

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d6414520-Reviews-Larry_s_110st_Bar_Grill-Phnom_Penh.html

Enjoy your trip and have fun.

DingoD.I have no idea about Larry's incorporating peanuts in their food. But, having eaten there many times, I can highly recommend it for it's moderate pricing, ambience, service and tasty food.

DingoD. Good recommendation!

SS.

Nazgylg15
06-28-19, 16:32
I have also read that medical facilities in Cambodia aren't that great and most tourist get airlifted or prefer to go Bangkok for treatment in case of emergencies. I would buy a travel insurance that covered airlift and has decent hospitalization benefits. Not to induce panic but just to be on safer side. I have visited Cambodia twice and bought the insurance both times. Doesn't cost much. The restaurants on the riverfront serve decent Western food. Stick to breads, bagel and pizza. Most times, especially on St 172 , the restaurants are run by family where family members work as waiters, cooks, cashiers etc. They might not be trained for such situations and I think the onus would be upon you to go through the menu and select the proper dish. Be vigilant and wish you enjoy your trip.

Blanquiceleste
06-29-19, 04:42
Another option is eric kayser by the river. A french bakery with nice baguette, then there is lucky market with cheese dairy cold cuts.....Eric Kayser is fantastic, a bit pricey though. Love their salads, sandwiches and quiches. And the coffee is great too.

Ekspat
06-30-19, 12:15
Eric Kayser is fantastic, a bit pricey though. Love their salads, sandwiches and quiches. And the coffee is great too.Yes, indeed a great shop. My favorite is the sourdough bread.

Kyra89
07-09-19, 03:23
Hey guys,

Am I okay leaving my passport at the hotel or should I keep it on me at all times?

Liggi1
07-09-19, 18:32
Hey guys,

Am I okay leaving my passport at the hotel or should I keep it on me at all times?Leave at the hotel and take copy with you.

Blanquiceleste
07-09-19, 23:16
Leave at the hotel and take copy with you.Needless to say, in a safe with other valuables such as spare cash, laptop, etc.

If there is no safe, keep inside your luggage and lock it. No need to carry it with you for any leisurely reason.

Amanut
07-17-19, 19:02
Hey guys,

Am I okay leaving my passport at the hotel or should I keep it on me at all times?When I have traveled to Vietnam and Cambodia I have simply brought a large handful of photocopies of my passport. When I checked in I just handed them one of the photocopies. I do the same for other things when a passport is requested. I have never been asked to leave my original passport when I simply provided them a copy at check in. I think most countries advise their citizens to never ever release possession of their original passport. That's a citizen's ticket home. If any hotel insisted that I turn over my original I would simply find another place to stay.

The ladies always dutifully handed over their original ID cards to the front desk receptionist except in Hoi An where the owner simply took a picture of her ID card. She then immediately handed it back to the lady.

The lady I stayed with in Phnom Penh was never asked for her passport at all, however she arrived early in the day so perhaps it was just overlooked later as I had booked double occupancy.

IAmTrout
07-18-19, 03:53
I'm having a hard time finding exact information on where the "chicken farms" are located. The best I've been able to do is find the location of the one in Sihanoukville, but apparently most cities (not just the popular tourist ones) have a chicken farm area where the locals go and pay local rates? Is this correct?

Is there a post or maybe even a list of the chicken farms in Cambodia and their *exact* locations like on Googlemaps or something?

IAmTrout
07-18-19, 04:17
Also, are there any websites in Cambodia that the locals use where you can see working girls, their prices, and arrange somehow to meet them? It's OK, and even preferable, if the website is in Khmer because I would prefer a site that to locals use rather than one with inflated prices for foreigners.

Equivalent examples would be Kynu.com in Vietnam and ****** in Hong Kong.

Ragnarok42
07-18-19, 19:23
At my hotel, was hit upon by numerous girls on the Wechat find friends nearby function. Finally got a girl to agree to come near midnight and had to sign some silly thing at the front desk. Girl had lots of makeup on and braces. Fake but pretty soft breasts and had a "funny" looking pussy, almost like a tube with an almost invisible clitoris (post op? Nevertheless she did slightly cream because I tasted her while it was doing DATY, she even watched a porno of a Japanese girl being fucked while she held my head on her pussy. She finally came quietly and pushed me away.

The sex itself was pretty boring and she pretty much was a dead fish during the sex, even refusing to ride me. Didn't really enjoy the sex and glad that I only wanted her for one shot and not all night. Paid 60 for one shot and I know I overpaid, tomorrow I will go looking for street walkers for some cheap pussy. Hopefully make up for the sub-par experience I just had.

Qxeau
07-19-19, 06:53
Greetings all.

It's been some 5 years, maybe more, since I was regularly visiting PP and enjoying the treats.

I note, with sadness, that Walkabout closed a few years back. I may be unusual, but I thoroughly enjoyed letting time drift by over drinks, pool and the odd liaison with a cute girl. I shall reminisce quietly.

My question is: has an alternate Walkabout sprung up? Or is it just the 136/51 outlets plying their trade these days?

Apologies in advance for current ignorance.

Grateful for any guidance.

TJ222
07-19-19, 15:13
Just a quick rundown of a night I had in PP.

I hit 3 bars all kind of grouped together.

1. I think it was called One 3 Six or maybe 1 Three 6. This place was tiny but the AC was cranked, which was a big plus as I wanted to get out of the humidity after walking around for a bit.

Women were sparse and not great. Beer was $2 a draft.

I had one, cooled off, and left.

2. Tokyo Bar. I believe that was the name. It was empty of guests but plenty of female attention. One girl has great English and was not bad on the eyes but also came off a bit annoying. Another sidled next to me. She was pretty cute, maybe 22 and 8/10. But, she has 0 English. Not necessarily a bad thing but hard to communicate at all. And she was yawning about to fall over. A couple others would walk by and bicker with the first girl as the tried to push her side.

Not bad but I wanted to check out more.

Had one pricey $4 beer.

3. Island Bar. This was another small place. I guess that's a recurring theme? It was dead when I got there but had ebs and flows over the time I stayed.

An attractive 26 year old jumped at the chance to get she lady drinks. She was dressed cuter rather than sexier, which I have no problem with. She was not pushy either.

I ended up playing some table games with her and a gay bartender. He also might have been the best Jenga player I have ever seen.

Anyway they weren't pushy at all, which I appreciate. I bought them and myself 4 rounds which came to $34. It was more than I wanted to spend on drinks but it was pretty cheap overall. And we played games and bullshitted for a few hours. Well worth the $ for the time.

It was getting late so I was ready to go. The lovely lady asked 50+10 for LT. It seemed low but it was late so maybe that's why. That was impossible to pass up.

We grabbed some food on the way back and one in the room she was even more affectionate. She was warmer than many actual girlfriends I've had, so a full on GFE.

We slept way too late the next day, but she was completely in dream land so I just let her rest up.

3 vastly different experiences in 3 bars that were all within a 5-20 minute walk from one another.

Ragnarok42
07-20-19, 17:41
Have been hit up a lot on Wechat and got this girl that seemed really interested, quoted me 200 US but I got it down to 60 after much negotiation. Was staying at Nagaworld and she said I would have to meet her to take her up. Time comes and she says she is downstairs. First girl I see is really tall and a model, but turns out wrong girl (oops) back downstairs to pick her up. This girl comes up the escalator, I show her our Wechat talk history and she says it is her. She has a really hoarse voice that at first made me think Ladyboy (but no Adams apple so I thought I was safe).

In the room she keeps asking for more after I pay her the 60, says 20 for make love and I say no, price was already agreed on. So she starts to give me a rather clumsy hand job with condom on and no BJ. She finally gets on me, reverse cowboy but no penetration, just a lot of yanking and pulling WTF?. After a bit of this she gets off and keeps on trying but I am so distracted by this weirdness that nothing happens. So I just say Fuck it and tell her to leave. I look at my phone and its the other girl saying where am I? She has been waiting 20 min for me and was knocking on my door (which I did not hear). Other girl keeps on looking at my phone and nosing in. While she is getting dressed doorbell finally rings, the real girl is outside with one of the hotel staff. Oh shit.

I push the girl out the room, and she says the oddest thing, "tell them you pay me 100 not 60" and she is gone. Other girl is still waiting in elevator lobby with hotel guy. I have her come in but close the door on the guy who was following a little too close. Inside other girl acts really mad, saying she wait for 20 and demands I pay her. I act poor and say I have no more, other girl took it. So she starts to type on phone and a voice message comes over, I am guessing to say have me go to ATM to take out cash, NO FUCKING WAY I AM DOING THAT. So I have some extra British pounds on me, about 150 Pounds and I give it to her saying it all I have. She asks if its China money and I say no, England, She then takes a pic and sends it out, guess her "boss" says the money is good and she smiles and relaxes visibly (even though her tantrum seemed a little weak and only for show. Anyway she pockets the money and leaves.

I get the distinct feeling halfway through this that it was an elaborate setup to get more money out of me. They did get an extra 150 pounds, which is much more than the 100 US they were asking and which is hopefully why they are not bothering me now.

Brothers please be careful out there, lots of different scams and other traps set up, if all we have to do is pay more then we are lucky. As for me, no more pussy finding on this trip or my following trip to Vietnam tomorrow. For now its me in the hotel room re-watching Chernobyl and wacking off to perverted Japanese porn.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-20-19, 17:55
Have been hit up a lot on Wechat and got this girl that seemed really interested, quoted me 200 US but I got it down to 60 after much negotiation. Was staying at Nagaworld and she said I would have to meet her to take her up. Time comes and she says she is downstairs. First girl I see is really tall and a model, but turns out wrong girl (oops) back downstairs to pick her up. This girl comes up the escalator, I show her our Wechat talk history and she says it is her. She has a really hoarse voice that at first made me think Ladyboy (but no Adams apple so I thought I was safe).

In the room she keeps asking for more after I pay her the 60, says 20 for make love and I say no, price was already agreed on. So she starts to give me a rather clumsy hand job with condom on and no BJ. She finally gets on me, reverse cowboy but no penetration, just a lot of yanking and pulling WTF?. After a bit of this she gets off and keeps on trying but I am so distracted by this weirdness that nothing happens. So I just say Fuck it and tell her to leave. I look at my phone and its the other girl saying where am I? She has been waiting 20 min for me and was knocking on my door (which I did not hear). Other girl keeps on looking at my phone and nosing in. While she is getting dressed doorbell finally rings, the real girl is outside with one of the hotel staff. Oh shit.

I push the girl out the room, and she says the oddest thing, "tell them you pay me 100 not 60" and she is gone. Other girl is still waiting in elevator lobby with hotel guy. I have her come in but close the door on the guy who was following a little too close. Inside other girl acts really mad, saying she wait for 20 and demands I pay her. I act poor and say I have no more, other girl took it. So she starts to type on phone and a voice message comes over, I am guessing to say have me go to ATM to take out cash, NO FUCKING WAY I AM DOING THAT. So I have some extra British pounds on me, about 150 Pounds and I give it to her saying it all I have. She asks if its China money and I say no, England, She then takes a pic and sends it out, guess her "boss" says the money is good and she smiles and relaxes visibly (even though her tantrum seemed a little weak and only for show. Anyway she pockets the money and leaves.

I get the distinct feeling halfway through this that it was an elaborate setup to get more money out of me. They did get an extra 150 pounds, which is much more than the 100 US they were asking and which is hopefully why they are not bothering me now.

Brothers please be careful out there, lots of different scams and other traps set up, if all we have to do is pay more then we are lucky. As for me, no more pussy finding on this trip or my following trip to Vietnam tomorrow. For now its me in the hotel room re-watching Chernobyl and wacking off to perverted Japanese porn.1) Never pay in advance. It does not end well.

2) You never talked to her face to face over the phone? You asked her to come over without knowing what she looked like?

3) You paid her 150 pounds when 50 pounds is more than the $60 you committed to?

Member #4698
07-20-19, 18:23
To Ragnarok42,

Ya think you were scammed? No, you did it to yourself mate.

#1 I don't know how you could have mistaken the girls. I have never done that in over 30 years of fooling around, (even in my Quaalude days) ha ha, and no wonder the 2nd girl, the intended girl was pissed off.

#2 if I am reading your post correctly, you paid 1st girl in advance. You should have known that PAYING a FL, SW, Hostess Girl, or Bar Girl IN ADVANCE IS ALWAYS a BIG MISTAKE!. The Cardinal Rule of mongering is Never Pay in Advance even if it means losing the girl. If a girl leaves because she won't accept payment after service is rendered it is a sure sign that she was not going to be good in the 1st place, so no loss. Plus there is always a good girl or many good girls just around the corner.

#3 The 2nd girl: well I guess by this time you were shell shocked or something, so I won't go into how or why you parted with your British Pounds except to say it was crazy.

Now here is what you must do: get up, dust yourself off, and get back on the horse that threw you. In other words go down to Darling Darling and pick up a girl or go to one of the many hostess bars instead and do likewise. Be friendly and after one drink ask the girl to come with you if you like her. Settle on the price before you leave the bar. That's all there is too it. You just had a very bad experience. Don't let it ruin your outlook or spoil your whole trip. There are a ton of really nice Khmer girls in Phnom. Yours was an anomaly, bad luck, although the bad luck was seriously compounded by your mistakes. Put it behind you. Just make sure you never repeat those mistakes ever again.

TJ222
07-21-19, 07:29
What was the purpose of giving the second girl extra money? If it was some kind of shakedown, even giving her the original fee for "wasting her time" should have been sufficient. Going well over the top of that doesn't seem to make sense at all.

Strange shit can happen when flustered I guess.


Have been hit up a lot on Wechat and got this girl that seemed really interested, quoted me 200 US but I got it down to 60 after much negotiation. Was staying at Nagaworld and she said I would have to meet her to take her up. Time comes and she says she is downstairs. First girl I see is really tall and a model, but turns out wrong girl (oops) back downstairs to pick her up. This girl comes up the escalator, I show her our Wechat talk history and she says it is her. She has a really hoarse voice that at first made me think Ladyboy (but no Adams apple so I thought I was safe).

In the room she keeps asking for more after I pay her the 60, says 20 for make love and I say no, price was already agreed on. So she starts to give me a rather clumsy hand job with condom on and no BJ. She finally gets on me, reverse cowboy but no penetration, just a lot of yanking and pulling WTF?. After a bit of this she gets off and keeps on trying but I am so distracted by this weirdness that nothing happens. So I just say Fuck it and tell her to leave. I look at my phone and its the other girl saying where am I? She has been waiting 20 min for me and was knocking on my door (which I did not hear). Other girl keeps on looking at my phone and nosing in. While she is getting dressed doorbell finally rings, the real girl is outside with one of the hotel staff. Oh shit.

I push the girl out the room, and she says the oddest thing, "tell them you pay me 100 not 60" and she is gone. Other girl is still waiting in elevator lobby with hotel guy. I have her come in but close the door on the guy who was following a little too close. Inside other girl acts really mad, saying she wait for 20 and demands I pay her. I act poor and say I have no more, other girl took it. So she starts to type on phone and a voice message comes over, I am guessing to say have me go to ATM to take out cash, NO FUCKING WAY I AM DOING THAT. So I have some extra British pounds on me, about 150 Pounds and I give it to her saying it all I have. She asks if its China money and I say no, England, She then takes a pic and sends it out, guess her "boss" says the money is good and she smiles and relaxes visibly (even though her tantrum seemed a little weak and only for show. Anyway she pockets the money and leaves.

I get the distinct feeling halfway through this that it was an elaborate setup to get more money out of me. They did get an extra 150 pounds, which is much more than the 100 US they were asking and which is hopefully why they are not bothering me now.

Brothers please be careful out there, lots of different scams and other traps set up, if all we have to do is pay more then we are lucky. As for me, no more pussy finding on this trip or my following trip to Vietnam tomorrow. For now its me in the hotel room re-watching Chernobyl and wacking off to perverted Japanese porn.

Buksida1
07-21-19, 13:55
As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:

I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant. As I booked right before the trip the room I wanted was taken, so I chose the King Suite room. It was very spacious but extremely dark, no ceiling lights. I asked to switch but all they had was the VIP suite but I had to pay 30 dollars extra per night. As I was not on an extreme budget constraint I obliged (after verifying that the VIP suite on Agoda indeed costs more than 30 bucks extra). It was an awesome suite, one large bed room and a humongous living room and kitchen. It included balcony facing the bars right opposite side of the street. As the VIP suite is on the 2nd floor I had a great view of the action from the balcony.

My mission on this trip was to find some spinners who wore sexy lingerie and high heels and boy, PP did not disappoint. I just never found what I was looking for in Thailand or Phili but here in PP a number girls were dressed quite nicely and looked very appealing. Additionally, I wanted to bareback the girls I chose as I really prefer it that way. When I bareback I generally prepare very well to protect myself and the girls. This may sound crazy to some but I go the extra mile when I bareback girls. I started taking my Tenvir-them pills daily 7 days before the trip. Tenvir-them has a high success rate of preventing HIV infection. I ordered my meds from a clinic in Thailand online a while ago and also order refills from there since (happy to share with anyone if you contact me via PM). I also bought HIV-test kits that show results 20 minutes after injecting a blood drop onto the test bed. Then I got STD test kits as well and I bought Morning-After emergency pills for the girls to prevent pregnancy. This is my usual 4-level protection Of course a small risk remains of HIV or STD infections but I believe the risk is incredibly low with the precautions I generally take. I also screen the girls and do not choose those who look like they had too much mileage. It is all worth it for me to shag a sexy girl bare back. Nothing beats that feeling to cum inside of her. In addition, with the girls knowing how I prepare they are much more relaxed in doing bare back and actually enjoy it..Thank you! Very good info! Your detailed report was interesting as I am facing a similar situation. Is it lust or love? As I have aged, I am more and more attracted to the 25 to 30 year old ladies instead of the 30+ age group that I usually hang out with. It seems to be lust so just one more trip to HCMC to visit her. Last trip for me and then move on? Maybe.

Ragnarok42
07-21-19, 18:08
Hello brothers,

Thanks for all the good advice, I am now in Hanoi but business should bring me back to PP soon enough.

Will put all your advice to practice when I get back to town.

Cheers.

MeatMan
07-22-19, 02:32
I'm having a hard time finding exact information on where the "chicken farms" are located. The best I've been able to do is find the location of the one in Sihanoukville, but apparently most cities (not just the popular tourist ones) have a chicken farm area where the locals go and pay local rates? Is this correct?

Is there a post or maybe even a list of the chicken farms in Cambodia and their *exact* locations like on Googlemaps or something?Its been a few years since I was there but, if you head over to Kampot which, isn't far from Sihanoukville, you'll have a better chance of checking out the farms. Also, there is an area called the 'Durian Roundabout' in Kampot where streetwalkers mill around looking for customers. It's been a while since I was there so, I would think not much has changed.

IAmTrout
07-24-19, 00:20
Its been a few years since I was there but, if you head over to Kampot which, isn't far from Sihanoukville, you'll have a better chance of checking out the farms. Also, there is an area called the 'Durian Roundabout' in Kampot where streetwalkers mill around looking for customers. It's been a while since I was there so, I would think not much has changed.I'm in Kampot right now.

I didn't see any SWs in the Durian Roundabout, just locals lounging about at night.

I also took a motorbike and cruised everywhere. I couldn't identify any particular place with working girls, like cafes or shacks where scantily-dressed girls wait around. Nothing that would indicate a red light area like neon lights or posters of hot girls. All I saw were a few KTVs with a lineup of girls sitting together in the lobby, but doing karaoke just to get laid is the last thing I want to do.

I did see one or two white older expats with sexy-looking Cambodian women though just walking around town.

Sam Sanuk
07-24-19, 07:57
I'm in Kampot right now.

I also took a motorbike and cruised everywhere. I couldn't identify any particular place with working girls, like cafes or shacks where scantily-dressed girls wait around. Nothing that would indicate a red light area like neon lights or posters of hot girls. All I saw were a few KTVs with a lineup of girls sitting together in the lobby, but doing karaoke just to get laid is the last thing I want to do.You'll probably have moved on by the time this gets posted. However.

Across the river is a big open beer bar / restaurant type venue where freelancers ply their trade.

You might want to check out Cambodia Redcat. The admin of the site has some good info regarding many destinations, including Kampot. It could save you some time. Here is a link regarding Kampot. https://www.cambodiaredcat.com/kampot-highlights/.

SS.

https://www.cambodiaredcat.com/kampot-highlights/

AskeAske
07-24-19, 18:51
Its been a few years since I was there but, if you head over to Kampot which, isn't far from Sihanoukville, you'll have a better chance of checking out the farms. Also, there is an area called the 'Durian Roundabout' in Kampot where streetwalkers mill around looking for customers. It's been a while since I was there so, I would think not much has changed.A lot has changed in Kampot. I don't know when you have seen FL walking around at Durian Roundabout. I have been in Kampot many times and never seen one. No, the big change is all the girlie-bars. Now Kampot have more 12. Easy, easy.

Biffduff
07-24-19, 19:41
Hi pals,

I've posted a lot in the Thai and Indo forums (you can take a look at my contributions by clicking on my username), but haven't contributed here at all (despite about 15 trips to Phnom Penh over the last decade). Just thought I'd mention that I'll be arriving tomorrow (today -- July 25) afternoon with my brother for four nights. We'll be staying at the Lux on 136 and we're both up for hitting up the regular spots -- Tokyo, Xanadu, Cyrcee, the 104 list, etc -- just wondering if anyone is up for meeting a couple of Canadian lads with a few days and cash to burn and similar hobbies. If you've got anything more 'exotic' to share, I'm all ears. I don't currently have PM abilities, but I'm sure we can work something out as I'll be checking this lovely forum frequently.

Happy hobbying, all!

MeatMan
07-24-19, 20:19
A lot has changed in Kampot. I don't know when you have seen FL walking around at Durian Roundabout. I have been in Kampot many times and never seen one. No, the big change is all the girlie-bars. Now Kampot have more 12. Easy, easy.I would say it's been about 3.5 years since I was in Kampot. I stayed at the Rikitiki Hotel which wasn't far. Had a motorbike rental, passed the roundabout and saw 3-4 girls milling about. I will take your word that things have changed.

Nazgylg15
07-25-19, 18:18
I'm in Kampot right now.

I didn't see any SWs in the Durian Roundabout, just locals lounging about at night.

I also took a motorbike and cruised everywhere. I couldn't identify any particular place with working girls, like cafes or shacks where scantily-dressed girls wait around. Nothing that would indicate a red light area like neon lights or posters of hot girls. All I saw were a few KTVs with a lineup of girls sitting together in the lobby, but doing karaoke just to get laid is the last thing I want to do.

I did see one or two white older expats with sexy-looking Cambodian women though just walking around town.I think one of the ways to find about chicken farms or girly bar in most places in Asia, is to politely enquire with tuk tuk guys or bellboys at the hotel. I wouldn't recommend it as mostly you end up with meeting women of their taste than yours. But it does work.

IAmTrout
07-27-19, 03:36
I think one of the ways to find about chicken farms or girly bar in most places in Asia, is to politely enquire with tuk tuk guys or bellboys at the hotel. I wouldn't recommend it as mostly you end up with meeting women of their taste than yours. But it does work.What is the Khmer word (s) for these establishments or areas? Is "chicken farm" literally just called or "ksedthan chenhchum mean" (a direct translation of chicken farm)? Or do you just go up to tuk tuk drivers and ask them "where are the prostitutes?

Nazgylg15
07-27-19, 19:01
What is the Khmer word (s) for these establishments or areas? Is "chicken farm" literally just called or "ksedthan chenhchum mean" (a direct translation of chicken farm)? Or do you just go up to tuk tuk drivers and ask them "where are the prostitutes?Mostly you get accosted by these guys. In Siem reab, it has happened multiple times to me. In pub street and areas around, you get asked "Sir, you want lady? In Phnom Penh, they are even worse "Want lady? Small little lady? I never entertain these people and would never recommend as well. In Phnom Penh, I had a tuk tuk guy who took me around to killing fields, museum and local city tour. He was a decent guy and we talked on various things during the trip and slowly I asked him about local girls and girly bar during casual drink. He then told about the what Phnom massage bars and girls around what Phnom etc. He said he could get me girls but I declined politely. He even tried to set me up with young cute waitress I was eyeing in the restaurant. Same was the experience in Colombo and Yangon. Sometimes these guys can be your wingman.

In short,

1) There are guys who accost you for women. Never entertain them.

2) Befriend a local guy (not just for this purpose) and ask him casually.

And never ask a random stranger "Where are the prostitutes". Many would get offended that the foreigner does not have respect for local women and culture. Lot of people consider the hobby immoral.

Paolo99
07-27-19, 21:12
What is the Khmer word (s) for these establishments or areas? Is "chicken farm" literally just called or "ksedthan chenhchum mean" (a direct translation of chicken farm)? Or do you just go up to tuk tuk drivers and ask them "where are the prostitutes?Khmer use the word "moaan" for "chicken" so it might be the word "mean" in your direct translation but I don't know how they say "farm". Don't even know if they use something as "chicken farm".

You could say " where are the cheap prostitutes?" by saying "srey nii man tlaay neu aye nah?

Ryoma Aldini
07-30-19, 00:06
Can I actually post my experience in Cambodia here?

Like the full on details. Names and places I have been to and even add pictures?

Ryoma Aldini
07-30-19, 00:31
Been here the past 1 year, interesting experience I would say. Pardon me for the long post. Just sharing information about Phnom Penh.

Night live.

Basically, st 136 is still bustling with the bars and plenty of bargirls. Some more vocal than others.

136 best bars I would say is.

136 corner bar. Has a 2nd floor with KTV rooms. Live dancing sexy dance shows. Plenty of beautiful ladies.

Xanadu bar.

Spiderman bar.

Hello sweet bar.

Generally has the cute looking ones.

To avoid.

Candy bar. Tends to rip you off.

St 5.

A great night bar.

Angels bar.

Basically, LD is about 3.75.

Short time is from 50-60.

Long time is 100.

There are also walkers near the what Phnom area, but caution they can be a bit of a risky choice. Bar girls tend to be safer.

Clubs.

Pontoon.

Darling Darling.

Club love.

Filling station (Filipina) a bit on the expensive side.

You can find girls freelancing and yes ladyboys as well so you got to keep your eyes peeled.

Social escorts.

No many of these on Phnom Penh, but there is one that I think is safe and worth the try.

I did and I must say they are pretty top notch and discreet.

Deals mostly local and Filipina and the occasional Thai and Vietnamese.

They have a facebook page too and a neat booking system.

I think their girls can be taken out long term as well in case you fancy them and would them to follow you around on your travels or trips.

Stykler
07-30-19, 08:03
Can I actually post my experience in Cambodia here?
{Snip} Please do so.

DingoD
07-31-19, 02:07
Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.


Been here the past 1 year, interesting experience I would say. Pardon me for the long post. Just sharing information about Phnom Penh.

Night live.

Basically, st 136 is still bustling with the bars and plenty of bargirls. Some more vocal than others.

136 best bars I would say is.

136 corner bar. Has a 2nd floor with KTV rooms. Live dancing sexy dance shows. Plenty of beautiful ladies.

Xanadu bar.

Spiderman bar.

Hello sweet bar.

Generally has the cute looking ones.

To avoid.

Candy bar. Tends to rip you off.

St 5.

A great night bar.

Angels bar.

Basically, LD is about 3.75.

Short time is from 50-60.

Long time is 100.

There are also walkers near the what Phnom area, but caution they can be a bit of a risky choice. Bar girls tend to be safer.

Clubs.

Pontoon.

Darling Darling.

Club love.

Filling station (Filipina) a bit on the expensive side.

You can find girls freelancing and yes ladyboys as well so you got to keep your eyes peeled.

Social escorts.

No many of these on Phnom Penh, but there is one that I think is safe and worth the try.

I did and I must say they are pretty top notch and discreet.

Deals mostly local and Filipina and the occasional Thai and Vietnamese.

They have a facebook page too and a neat booking system.

I think their girls can be taken out long term as well in case you fancy them and would them to follow you around on your travels or trips.

Ryoma Aldini
07-31-19, 02:45
Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.Yeah, they have some new faces and tight ones. Some of the other bars has also step up.

Especially in st 108 and st 118.

If you are ever do look me up, I might be able to surprise you with some goodies. Hahahah.

Personalized goodies.

Goatscrot
07-31-19, 02:48
Short time is from 50-60. Long time is 100.Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.

Sam Sanuk
07-31-19, 03:33
Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.I was there in May. I can confirm the relative quality of the offerings. When I and my wingman sat down, we weren't greeted by a flash mob. The two girls we invited to sit with us weren't pushy or thirsty. Nursed their drinks at a leisurely pace. I'm guessing that there were 12-15 girls in the joint at the time. 80% doable.

Sweetie Bar gets little attention. However, the average age of the hostesses seemed to be about 21. And, yes, there were some cute ones there you could call "sweeties". LOL.

Many of the pics posted from Xanadu were also posted on another facebook page. Some interesting discussions (sometimes) regarding the PP hostess bar scene. You might want to take a look. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1062695980532551/.

SS.

Sam Sanuk
07-31-19, 03:44
Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.Indeed, shocking compared to 15 years ago. But I also get sticker shock in BKK when compared to 15 years ago. LOL Viets seem to be relatively rare today in PP compared to yesteryear. Many were sent packing back home by the authorities. You see some wild prices quoted here. But I think they are more anecdotal than what is actually negotiated (except as paid by monied Asian punters on a biz trip). For the last 2-3 years, I've consistently scored ST for $30 and LT for $60-$70. Granted, none were Miss Universe, but none were dogs either. And service was as advertised.

SS.

Houston Player
07-31-19, 04:10
Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.You can still find 40 short time and 60 long time if you're willing to negotiate.

Run Mann
07-31-19, 06:13
Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.So 18 to 20 years later you expect the price to be the same? In 2040 you will be shocked to death at prices then, that's if you can still get the product you're getting now.

Paolo99
07-31-19, 08:09
Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.His pics were taken from a social account media so you might have a hard time trying to find these beauties in your next trip.

SouthEaster
07-31-19, 09:19
He didn't say he expected the prices to be the same. I think most people would find an 800% rise in price for a ST if not shocking, a bit over the top. In 2000 you could buy a beer for a dollar. In 2019 you can still buy a beer for you guessed it, a dollar. As for 2040, forget it. Either we will be dead or the scene will. Or maybe it will be $320 for ST!

SE.

BamFurlough
08-03-19, 07:00
Hello!

I'm spending a weekend in PP during late October. The primary purpose of my visit isn't mongering, but if I have the opportunity I'll take advantage. My limiting factor is that I'm staying at the new Courtyard by Marriott. The hotel looks lovely and I'm sure I'll enjoy my stay, but I find it extremely unlikely that they will allow a local lady friend as a guest. Anyone have experience with hotels like that?

My understanding is that there are plenty of short stay places if I want a couple hours with a lady. I'll probably hit up Darlin and Secrets as they sound like a sure place to find some quality talent. I'm sorry if this angers the negotiators and bargain hunters but I'm definitely not interested in finding the best deal. My usual haunts are strip clubs in the US because that's what I have regular access to. It cracks me up to read people complaining about 100 USD to spend an entire night with a girl. I'll bargain, but 100 is a steal for a hot woman. Especially if I only have one night to find her.

At the same time I totally get it. If you are devoting a week to the hobby it makes sense to get the very best price.

Either way, any info regarding the Marriott and short stay places is appreciated. If I get up to anything I'll leave a report.

SouthEaster
08-03-19, 20:55
"I'll bargain, but 100 is a steal for a hot woman." It sounds like you'll fold faster than a wet cardboard box. The chicks are going to love you!

RunMemphis
08-04-19, 19:08
All — I would love your help as I am looking at spending about 10 days in Cambodia June 2020. A single 40 ish, fit, male traveling solo. After a long school year, I think I would like to see 2 places within this journey. Phnom Penh is definitely one. Being the capital with hostess bars, Palaces, Killing fields, etc. I'm asking where else would you see for stop #2?

I'm typically a beach person and am leaning that way. I also don't want to take up a whole day traveling. I like sun, fun, beach, beach bars, and some good mongering places to hang out!

Thanks in advance for your advice. My search is on!

Blanquiceleste
08-05-19, 01:25
All I would love your help as I am looking at spending about 10 days in Cambodia June 2020. A single 40 ish, fit, male traveling solo. After a long school year, I think I would like to see 2 places within this journey. Phnom Penh is definitely one. Being the capital with hostess bars, Palaces, Killing fields, etc. I'm asking where else would you see for stop #2?

I'm typically a beach person and am leaning that way. I also don't want to take up a whole day traveling. I like sun, fun, beach, bAt least in my opinion. each bars, and some good mongering places to hang out!

Thanks in advance for your advice. My search is on!Sihanoukville or Kep (and Kampot). Neither the beaches nor the mongering is worth the trip though. At least in my opinion.

SouthEaster
08-05-19, 08:04
Did you do any research on the country at all? You can not reach any of the beaches without a full days travel. The only one that had a pussy presence (and still does although in a different form) is Sihanoukville which is one giant Chinese construction site. Enter at your own risk. The other options are Koh Kong, a sleepy town with little pussy available, and Kep, an even smaller sleepier town with no pussy available. If beaches and pussy are your thing then Cambodia is the wrong destination.

BamFurlough
08-05-19, 08:31
"I'll bargain, but 100 is a steal for a hot woman." It sounds like you'll fold faster than a wet cardboard box. The chicks are going to love you!I'm not going to argue with that assessment. The question is, will I like the chicks?

RunMemphis
08-05-19, 20:47
Did you do any research on the country at all? You can not reach any of the beaches without a full days travel. The only one that had a pussy presence (and still does although in a different form) is Sihanoukville which is one giant Chinese construction site. Enter at your own risk. The other options are Koh Kong, a sleepy town with little pussy available, and Kep, an even smaller sleepier town with no pussy available. If beaches and pussy are your thing then Cambodia is the wrong destination.Yes! That's all I have been doing is reading and research. It doesn't have to be Beach. I have spent the last decade of trips beachside in Sosua, DR and Negril, JA.

Is Siem Reap worth discussing?

I know I could always hop a quick plane to Thailand but trying to convince myself that something else may be worthwhile!

RunMemphis
08-05-19, 20:48
Sihanoukville or Kep (and Kampot). Neither the beaches nor the mongering is worth the trip though. At least in my opinion.Thank you. That was the same as I have been reading.

SaigonTM
08-06-19, 05:57
Sihanoukville or Kep (and Kampot). Neither the beaches nor the mongering is worth the trip though. At least in my opinion.I love Cambodia but the only beach area that I like is Koh Rong which can be fun. The best way to do it is find a girl in PP and take her with you. Just spend two nights in PP and you can definitely find a girl to go to the Islands. Also. I think Kep and Kampot are beautiful and fun. Just bring a girl. I've done that every time. I bet you can find girls in Kampot now be / see a lot of expats moved from Sihanoukville and I bet there are bar girls. I will report back on that as I will be there this weekend.

RainmanSahut
08-06-19, 09:15
Many Viet girls At Serendipity Beach Sihanoukville Looking for Customers.


Thank you. That was the same as I have been reading.

SouthEaster
08-06-19, 11:34
Siem Reap is a bucket list destination. It is worth a visit but the town is packed with tourists from all over, especially China Korea and Japan although less so for rainy season. And there is pussy.

Bam. I don't know your tastes but if you like Asian girls $100 will get you a very fine piece of tail in PP. Just look before you leap.

Nazgylg15
08-09-19, 15:49
I was there in PP for 6 nights and stayed at ohana. Had a very good time.

Girls:

Lot of pretty ones in bar. I mainly visited Loco (130), Wild orchid (130/136 not sure), Alaska (136), office (118) ,airforce (104), marine (104) and old favs Rose (104). Things have changed quite a lot since last visit. Girls no more show preference for LT. ST 2 -3 hrs ,2 shots ,50 $ is prefered. But if you get girl around midnight, she will stay till breakfast. 2 -3 shots,$50-70. It kind of worked for me as well. I usually start the night early at 8 pm and complete the first ST around 10-11 pm. So with bar fine, drinks this costed me around $70-90 on average. Girl $50,BF $10-$15,drinks $15-$30. Then I spent some time in Darling-Darling or casinos in Naga world for a hour or two. Then I would again visit the bar to get the girl for the night. Again $60-$80 on average. Girl $50-$60. BF $10. Drinks $10-$20. So I had two girls, although at different times, on most nights with 2-3 shots each. Cost $130 -$180 per night. Once, I picked a girl from Darling-Darling to just see how she does. She was no different to bar girl, just better dressed and better communication but costed me around $125.12 pm -9 am.

GFE:

All the bar girls were very sweet. Though they preferred to stay only 2-3 hrs except after 12 pm, all of them never rushed and were accommodating. Same with Darling Darling girl except she was pricier.

Bars:

Forget St 104. The quality and atmosphere is not up to my liking. Ones on St130 and 136 were good.

Girly drinks and bar fines:

Most of the bars charge $4 for girly drink. I had mostly two girls with me drinking as I felt the table was more live with couple of girls. At least, I wouldn't be expected to drive the conversation. Costed me $40-$50 per night.

Overall Cost:

I bhad a budget of $125 for the night and $150 for the complete day. I ended up spending $130-$175 for night and around $150-$225 for the day. I did some unplanned day trips as well. The entire trip costed me a little over $1000 which I least expected. Looking back at the numbers, had I restricted myself to one girl, it would have been $600-$650.

Ohana:

Girl friendly. Decent rooms but outdated. Not so good WiFi. Below average breakfast. Lovely pool and roof top jacuzzi.

Phnom penh is still a lovely place but fast changing.

Swpc10
08-10-19, 00:50
I will be in PP in a week or so.

Any recommendations for a place for a good massage with a BJ CIM end?

Or it that pretty much anywhere?

Thanks.

Axiata
08-10-19, 13:04
Been 2 years since last PP visit. Noticeable difference is a lot more high rise. Changing the landscape a lot. The bar streets are the same and girl quality is the same. Visited only two street bars along with Pontoon and Darlin Darlin so far. Route 136 was Ok but only a couple of ones that caught my eye. Air Force One on 104 was fun with a lot of girls and some worth another visit. Pontoon seemed very light on talent. Darlin seemed a little short on talent as well.

Took a spinner from Route 136 who was not normally my type but very keen to please. Ended up A great GFE with a lot of DFK and DATY which juiced her up. Lots of positions and no rush at all. Two shots and sent on her way around 10 am the next morning. Worth the money and time.

PP is still a good place to hunt and find a gem, which is part of the fun. Have a few more nights so will provide FRs as I go.

Happy Hunting.

Spamx
08-10-19, 14:07
Have anyone seen a place where to find a pregnant girl in PP?

It seems that as soon as a Cambodian girl get pregnant, she stops working unlike in Philippines for example.

Axiata
08-11-19, 13:50
Decided to try street 130: again. Hopped into the bar next to Aifroece One which I think was 121 bar. Small and a few lookers. One cutie caught my eye and asked her to drink with me. Spent time talking to her and while she was a looker, I quickly decided that the vibe was not working for me. Left and hopped into Airforce One. Has a few girls worth a look and while playing pool I spotted one that was my type. Unfortunately she was already being entertained behind a curtain with a group of guys and girls. Interesting setup that area. The guys were having fun groping and the girls were having fun returning the favour. Waited a while to see if she was going to be bar fined and unfortunately she was. Keep this one in mind for tomorrow.

Left and decided to look at Darlin Darlin again. After looking around I spotted a looker with a good package. A few drinks and took her back. So the performance was OK with good BBBJ and nice DATY action. A few positions and she was very wet which helped me to fire the shot. Darlin Darlin is a typical high end bar and the girls are pretty but most have eyes for the Asian guys. Nothing wrong with that at all as it is their bodies and for them to decide who they sell to.

Will head to a few of the other bars tomorrow night. More to come.

Happy Hunting.

Balongtong
08-21-19, 06:20
Started bar hopping along at 9 pm at about 3 am in the morning my drink was spike by someone and follom me back to hotel and robbed me of my cash. So be careful if you are along drinking you never knoen when its will happen to you. Lucky only my cash is lost. My passport, handphone and my health is alright. Been to Phnom Penh many many time but still happen. Takecare.

WildBillLewis
08-22-19, 17:36
This is exactly the kind of report that I find helpful when scoping out a trip myself. I was in Phnom Penh myself about two years ago and was wondering how things had changed. At the time, I found a girl in Phnom Penh, kicked around with her for a few days and then took her to Sihanoukville for a few more days, then sent her home so I could explore Sihanoukville on my own. I am now contemplating a return, and your report has been helpful. Thanks.

WildBillLewis
08-22-19, 17:50
Befriend a local guy (not just for this purpose) and ask him casually.

WildBillLewis
08-22-19, 19:25
When I bareback I generally prepare very well to protect myself and the girls. This may sound crazy to some but I go the extra mile when I bareback girls. I started taking my Tenvir-them pills daily 7 days before the trip. Tenvir-them has a high success rate of preventing HIV infection. I ordered my meds from a clinic in Thailand online ... and also order refills from there ... I also bought HIV-test kits that show results 20 minutes after injecting a blood drop onto the test bed. Then I got STD test kits as well and I bought Morning-After emergency pills for the girls to prevent pregnancy.Very prudent. Very thoughtful.


So, after all I ended up with only 2 girls but it was one of the best short trip experiences. Especially the second girl …. I will definitely head back to PP soonish in the new year to keep my promise to meet this second gal …. why pay Hong Kong or Singapore prices when you get lucky and have an 8 or 9 in your bed who is willing to give you the total girl friend experience …. Perhaps some experienced punters call me stupid to fall for a working girl.I've something similar happen to me on three occasions on visits to Thailand and those deeper connections have been truly special; memories that resonate still.

Great report. Thanks.

Member #4698
08-22-19, 20:57
Perhaps some experienced punters call me stupid to fall for a working girl. Well I did not fall in love but I definitely like her. It happens I guess, it is life. I have punted for 2 decades and it did happen a few times in my past. So, why not. Perhaps there is a continuation to this story. Good trip report. I like Khmer girls too. Many have unique personalities and can be very GFE, sometimes too GFE, ha ha, if you know what I mean, but I also like Filipinas, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Burmese, Chinese, Korean AND Thai girls. Incidentally, I have shagged more Thai girls by a long shot than any other nationality including my own, American. My current group of repeat favorites include 3 Thai girls (BKK, BKK & Phuket), 2 MNL girls, and a Burmese girl. That's a pretty full dance card with several more very nice girls just under the cut off point to make my favorite's list, but despite that, I always find the time to make new acquaintances too. Thus I never know what is going to happen on one of my trips until it is well under way and I like it that way.

But it is definitely not stupid to concentrate on the girls you like best for however long it lasts. The rewards are great, although it is also very satisfying to hook up with NEW girls too. As you can see, I enjoy a healthy mix of the two, but I have found that long time sexy friends wander off, go back home, find a BF or you lose track of them. Others get old and put on weight, or get stale and you lose interest in them. Eventually we all have the need and desire to find NEW. So enjoy your Khmer girl for however long it lasts and Rock On!

Tomasb
08-22-19, 22:34
I think we would all like more details such as where the drink spiking occurred? Was the thief alone and did he have a weapon? Where did the robbery actually happen? Did you pass out before you arrived at the hotel or were you just incapacitated to the point you could not resist? Nothing good usually happens at 3 am. Regardless of where you are.


Started bar hopping along at 9 pm at about 3 am in the morning my drink was spike by someone and follom1 me back to hotel and robbed me of my cash. So be careful if you are along drinking you never knoen when its will happen to you. Lucky only my cash is lost. My passport, handphone and my health is alright. Been to Phnom Penh many many time but still happen. Takecare.

Rick Rock
08-28-19, 09:38
Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.Viets are basically gone from the bars. Still some in the brothels, but not many white guys go to them. Of course you can still get ST for 20 and LT for 30-50 in Phnom Penh quite easily. But wouldn't expect one week tourists with more money than sense to know how haggling and prices work in Southeast Asia. A lady not really into them says "100" and they pay it. It is what it is.

Also, Cambodia has one of the fastest growing economies in the entire world. Phnom Penh has been totally transformed in a matter of a decade. Low level factory workers have had their incomes quadruple, and so have most others. There's serious inflation, which western people haven't seen in a while. Plus Chinese money is flooding in with the casinos and big buildings they're putting up, and along with that, Chinese guys and their local connections splashing big bucks around everywhere. It's nothing for guys to drop hundreds of dollars in a local KTV these days, and the girls know that.

Blanquiceleste
09-02-19, 10:43
Just finished a short 5 day trip to PP. Had an absolute blast. In my several times of visiting PP this has possibly been the best. I stayed at Tao Riverside Residence on St 144, my second time here and will be my go to place for times to come.

This time I pretty much hung around the infamous Riverside bars. 😅. Did not go to Pontoon or Darlin Darlin or Epic or any other club. Did not bother with the GSM bars either, I was pretty disappointed from my last experience there. Speaking of bars on the riverside, I peeped into nearly every bar on St 136, St 130 and St 104. Plus a few on St 5, St 118 and St 110.

I found the bars on St 104 the most laid back although there was one annoying lady at Boss Bar. Was another extremely annoying hostess at Xanadu who simply refused to go away even after being told to leave me alone. I got the impression there are more bars that have LBs now than before. There needs to some sort of clear messaging about a bar having ladyboys. Speaking of which, the LB manager at Alaska can really get on your nerves.

My money is on Tokyo, Crazy Dog, Loco (a welcome change from my last trip), and Moonrise, where I had a good time besides barfining girls. I also like Airforce on this trip where there was no LD pressure and the girls were definitely pleasant looking (in my last FR I had reported that place to be a cess pool of the ugliest women in PP). I also barfined from Angry Bird, Boss Bar and Xanadu. No bars padded my tab, although a couple of girls at Sexy Night bar on St 5 helped themselves to a couple of extra drinks without asking. I paid and made a mental note to never go in there again. Some bars still try to pull the trick of minimum number of lady drinks before leaving with the girl, despite charging a barfine. Extortion. I had to firmly but politely tell the waitress at a couple of places that I am not a noob and they can stuff those silly rules in their panties. If I remember right, this was Loco and Angry Bird.

Dodging a barfine is easy. Nearly every girl you meet will happily give you her number and come around in the daytime before heading to work. Or come over after the bar closes. Just make sure you tip them well for that effort.

I also was quite disappointed with Secrets. The quality of women seems to have just fallen off the cliff. On my last visit there were several girls worth barfining. None on this trip. Pontoon seems to be back in action as before although I did not get around there on this trip, had my hands full with just the riverside lasses. This is hearsay from the girls.

All in all a short but satisfying visit to Phnom Penh.

Sam Sanuk
09-03-19, 11:22
Just finished a short 5 day trip to PP. Had an absolute blast. In my several times of visiting PP this has possibly been the best. I stayed at Tao Riverside Residence on St 144, my second time here and will be my go to place for times to come.
Dodging a barfine is easy. Nearly every girl you meet will happily give you her number and come around in the daytime before heading to work. Or come over after the bar closes. Just make sure you tip them well for that effort.

All in all a short but satisfying visit to Phnom Penh.Curious about current ST and LT asking rates, if any. I was there in May. Confined to St. 136. All of the girls except 1 asked "how much you pay"? Only 1 did not ask. 90% of the time I do LT. Maybe an occasional afternoon ST. I always ask how much they want (if they ask) and I always must negotiate down. I've never paid more that $70 LT and that was for the best looking girl in Candy Bar. (She started at $80; I countered with $60; finally compromised at $70) Most seem to start at $100, which is stupid money in my opinion.

Bottom line: how much were they asking and how much were you paying this trip?

Thanks,

SS.

Blanquiceleste
09-05-19, 04:56
Curious about current ST and LT asking rates, if any. I was there in May. Confined to St. 136. All of the girls except 1 asked "how much you pay"? Only 1 did not ask. 90% of the time I do LT. Maybe an occasional afternoon ST. I always ask how much they want (if they ask) and I always must negotiate down. I've never paid more that $70 LT and that was for the best looking girl in Candy Bar. (She started at $80; I countered with $60; finally compromised at $70) Most seem to start at $100, which is stupid money in my opinion.

Bottom line: how much were they asking and how much were you paying this trip?

Thanks,

SS.Thanks for your kind words. I deliberately did not mention prices in my report, lest it set off a 2 page argument on you know what. All I will say is that you paid what you thought was a fair price for time with a girl you considered worthwhile to pay for. And if you feel you got your money's worth, nothing else should matter. However, I am happy to drop you a PM and discuss pricing.

Sam Sanuk
09-05-19, 14:20
Thanks for your kind words. I deliberately did not mention prices in my report, lest it set off a 2 page argument on you know what. All I will say is that you paid what you thought was a fair price for time with a girl you considered worthwhile to pay for. And if you feel you got your money's worth, nothing else should matter. However, I am happy to drop you a PM and discuss pricing.Wise words in your reply. What you said is 100% correct. Some probably think $70 LT is too much; some might call me a "Cheap Charlie". I try to stay the "in range" that my expat friends living there offer me. Thanks for the invite for a PM; unfortunately I don't have PM authorization. Not that I'm a "Cheap Charlie". LOL It's just that it's kind of like jumping through a bunch of hoops to make payment.

Thanks for your reply.

SS.

Qeast
09-06-19, 06:51
Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.

SirWilliam4
09-06-19, 18:05
Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.What difference does that make? This is a dual currency country. You can have single US bill or a large stack of Riel. Up to you.

Nazgylg15
09-07-19, 08:21
Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.For tourist and mongers, financial transactions are mostly in USD. Barfines, drink and lady charge. Its very convenient to pay in USD and most ATMs dispense USD. All prices mentioned in site are USD. Sometimes you may get the change in Riel and you can use I to pay very small bills like a short tuk-tuk ride or food from hawker etc.

Qeast
09-07-19, 10:35
What difference does that make? This is a dual currency country. You can have single US bill or a large stack of Riel. Up to you.I didn't know. After your feedback, I did a quick google inquiry. I was shocked to see a report that *84% of all domestic transactions were done in "greenbacks".

Sam Sanuk
09-07-19, 10:38
Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.As another responder noted, Cambodia uses both riel and dollars. And in some provinces, baht are also often used. (Siem Reap, for instance, as well as the Cambodian towns along the border with Thailand.).

With respect to payment in the bars and girls, US dollars are used almost exclusively. This isn't to say riel could not be used; they just are not (normally). Drink prices are listed in USD, girls quote prices for their services in USD; most menus in restaurants quote USD.

Hope that clarifies for you.

SS.

PedroT97
09-20-19, 18:34
Cambodia, Phnom Penh dealing with bars / girls is entirely conducted in $US in my experience. The various ATMs dispense US Dollars. The Rials are only used for small transactions. Any bargirl will quote $100 LT as an opener. I just frown and pointedly finish my drink and indicate I'm going somewhere else. They do try the minimum LDs trick as well in many of the bars. I've never had one on 5/6 trips that held out for the $100. I just tell them that a fictitious 'last night girl' was $50 but I'm OK to pay a little more as "you're so cute. When that fails it's time to move on.

BkkVistor77
09-20-19, 19:19
I was in PP early this year and spent a great night at Oscar's On the Corner, live music and very friendly women. One of whom promptly sat on my lap after I came back from a breather outside, grabbed my crotch and said take me home. $50 and she stayed all night, we fucked twice that night, and once again the next morning. I'll never forget her!

Balongtong
09-26-19, 06:48
I think we would all like more details such as where the drink spiking occurred? Was the thief alone and did he have a weapon? Where did the robbery actually happen? Did you pass out before you arrived at the hotel or were you just incapacitated to the point you could not resist? Nothing good usually happens at 3 am. Regardless of where you are.Beware of this man he spike your drink and rob and follow you back to hotel and rob you. I was drinking in street 130 1 of the bar when I met him and we talk (normal) and then proceed to st 148 bar when I was drugged and he follow me back to hotel and clear all the cash. Partly my own fault for letting my guard down. So just be careful of this man.

Paolo99
09-28-19, 08:27
Beware of this man he spike your drink and rob and follow you back to hotel and rob you. I was drinking in street 130 1 of the bar when I met him and we talk (normal) and then proceed to st 148 bar when I was drugged and he follow me back to hotel and clear all the cash. Partly my own fault for letting my guard down. So just be careful of this man.So you've been drinking in a bar in street 130, befriended a man that you've never met before, let him have access to your drink when you've been in toilet maybe, and then went in another bar with that same guy and finally the guy followed you to your room and took all your cash. How did he come to your room? There was no reception desk to the place you were staying?

You've got to keep your gard up every where you go, not only in PP.

I don't know how you ended up doing this, but I would never befriend any man in any bar. Even if I had a few talks with him in the bar I would never go in another place with that guy.

Another thing is to never get drunk when you're traveling alone, this is calling for shit to happen to you. I've seen so many drunk guys being beaten really bad in Pattaya that it's a good reminder for me every time I start drinking. The first time I've been traveling like that I was with two friends of mine, every time one of us was getting drunk the two others were careful to not get drunk also, that's how we could take care of each other.

Anyway thanks for sharing your experience.

Sammon
09-28-19, 15:05
Beware of this man he spike your drink and rob and follow you back to hotel and rob you. I was drinking in street 130 1 of the bar when I met him and we talk (normal) and then proceed to st 148 bar when I was drugged and he follow me back to hotel and clear all the cash. Partly my own fault for letting my guard down. So just be careful of this man.Was this man western guy or local?

Never ever befriend anybody. Just go enjoy. I am surprised how he got into your room drugged or not? Maybe you are looking for ladyboys.

Golfinho
09-28-19, 19:13
In 2000 you could buy a beer for a dollar. In 2019 you can still buy a beer for you guessed it, a dollar. As for 2040, forget it. Either we will be dead or the scene will. Or maybe it will be $320 for ST!.You are failing to factor in how much your own income has increased (or will) during this time span, both as business or professional success, as well as investment income adds to your net worth and disposable income.

SouthEaster
09-29-19, 00:27
I can assure you my income did not increase 800% in 19 years. In fact now that I have retired my income is probably less than it was in 2000!

SE.

Member #4675
10-01-19, 02:21
Yeah, they have some new faces and tight ones. Some of the other bars has also step up.

Especially in st 108 and st 118.

If you are ever do look me up, I might be able to surprise you with some goodies. Hahahah.

Personalized goodies.At ryoma, I tried DMing you but it says you are currently not receiving any messages. I am visiting PP in November and I would love to have a wingman, get your contacts.

MikeLodge
10-08-19, 13:16
Thanks for your kind words. I deliberately did not mention prices in my report, lest it set off a 2 page argument on you know what. All I will say is that you paid what you thought was a fair price for time with a girl you considered worthwhile to pay for. And if you feel you got your money's worth, nothing else should matter. However, I am happy to drop you a PM and discuss pricing.I live in Angeles City PH so I can get ST for 1 k which is 20 bucks and sometimes even less which is online hookups and FL so my first question here since I forgot my old login is can the same still be had if one is not really afraid (too much) of FL street meat?

Member #4667
10-08-19, 19:29
I live in Angeles City PH so I can get ST for 1 k which is 20 bucks and sometimes even less which is online hookups and FL so my first question here since I forgot my old login is can the same still be had if one is not really afraid (too much) of FL street meat?There are places locals go for 10 usd but unless you into adventure sex and no BJ though slim and attractive etc its just a experience. Forget about looking for ST for 20 usd in places accessible by foreigners, also you need to factor in looks, as I have seen pics of cheap girls guys talk about and honestly many I wouldn't do if it was free eg soraya mall.

Blanquiceleste
10-14-19, 00:46
I live in Angeles City PH so I can get ST for 1 k which is 20 bucks and sometimes even less which is online hookups and FL so my first question here since I forgot my old login is can the same still be had if one is not really afraid (too much) of FL street meat?Cheap charlies, bottom barrel scavengers, bargain basement hunters. Here is one for you to answer.

Blanquiceleste
10-14-19, 01:03
Nothing really new to report. 3 nights in PP for fun, followed by a couple of days of work.

Mostly hung around bars on St 136 and St 130. In and out of half a dozen or so bars on each night, and stayed for a drink or more in the same number of bars. Barfined every night. Had a couple of cuties on call to take care of the afternoons. Stayed at Ohana, which IMHO is great VFM. A good breakfast, two pools, nice clean spacious rooms with a balcony. The housekeeping game needs to improve.

Best bars on this trip by far was Loco and Alaska for me. No LD pressure, good air-conditioning and friendly girls. The music in Alaska is a tad too loud for me.

Worse bars on this trip for me were Intoxica, Dragonfly, Tokyo (a you turn from my previous trip), Helicopter and Xanadu. Pushy girls, crowded with chain smoking Asian punters and insanely loud music.

Most consistent bar over the last 3 trips has been Angry Bird. The rest are not even worth a mention.

MutantChicken
10-14-19, 18:57
Cheap charlies, bottom barrel scavengers, bargain basement hunters. Here is one for you to answer.I would be called a bargain basement hunter / cheap charlie I suppose but what is there to be ashamed of when I can pay only 10 usd for girls like this. I have seen the girls at the bars you posted about and I can say they are not definitely not superior in looks or attitude. What is the word to describe someone paying top dollar for someone else rubbish but thinks he somehow more classy because he pays more?

Blanquiceleste
10-15-19, 01:00
I would be called a bargain basement hunter / cheap charlie I suppose but what is there to be ashamed of when I can pay only 10 usd for girls like this. I have seen the girls at the bars you posted about and I can say they are not definitely not superior in looks or attitude. What is the word to describe someone paying top dollar for someone else rubbish but thinks he somehow more classy because he pays more?Oh, don't hold back. You can say anything you please, that is the very idea of this board. I don't care what I am called on an anonymous board. But if you consider $50-$70 as top dollar then I feel for you.

The OP asked about FL street meat and I graciously passed on that query to the champions in that department.

As someone right said, one man's trash is another's treasure. So I wish you good luck with your treasure.

AskeAske
10-15-19, 12:42
I would be called a bargain basement hunter / cheap charlie I suppose but what is there to be ashamed of when I can pay only 10 usd for girls like this. I have seen the girls at the bars you posted about and I can say they are not definitely not superior in looks or attitude. What is the word to describe someone paying top dollar for someone else rubbish but thinks he somehow more classy because he pays more?The chicken is always so funny. Off course he can find a girl for 10 dollar, when I have to pay 30 dollar. The only thing is that he never tell us where he find these beutiful girls, who want to fuck for 10 dollar. Please, chicken, tell me where to find. But you can not tell me, because you are just a troll.

MutantChicken
10-15-19, 15:04
The chicken is always so funny. Off course he can find a girl for 10 dollar, when I have to pay 30 dollar. The only thing is that he never tell us where he find these beutiful girls, who want to fuck for 10 dollar. Please, chicken, tell me where to find. But you can not tell me, because you are just a troll.Continue thinking that I'm a troll and that 10 dollar options are just my lies if that makes you feel better, and please don't compare my young 10 fucks to your drug addicts you pay 30 dollars for at Soraya mall. You should maybe look at yourself in the mirror and go back and look at your posts and maybe you can see why I wouldn't tell you where to find it, hint I find you particularly odious and I just don't like you. Or maybe I have seen too many guys with the "I pay what I want I don't care what others are paying or should be paying" and thus the price as inflated way beyond anything it should be.

Blanquiceleste
10-16-19, 00:06
Continue thinking that I'm a troll and that 10 dollar options are just my lies if that makes you feel better, and please don't compare my young 10 fucks to your drug addicts you pay 30 dollars for at Soraya mall. You should maybe look at yourself in the mirror and go back and look at your posts and maybe you can see why I wouldn't tell you where to find it, hint I find you particularly odious and I just don't like you. Or maybe I have seen too many guys with the "I pay what I want I don't care what others are paying or should be paying" and thus the price as inflated way beyond anything it should be.How should what others pay bother you? You are still getting your so called beautiful fucks for $10, right? Or did you want them at $2, and now $10 is top dollar?

Aviator12
10-22-19, 01:55
As a firsttime visitor to Cambodia and Phnom Penh I was looking forward to compare the bar scene with Pattaya and Bangkok. I had spent 4 days in Pattaya and was very happy with the outcome there. Had good times in LK Metro area and soi6. Arrived from Bangkok with AirAsia. Paid 18 USD for taxi from the airport to LeVincent hotel in street 130. Phnom Penh was actually a lot bigger than I had expected. The trip is only 9 km or so, but heavy traffic made it seem longer. You can take cheaper tuk-tuk's from the airport of course, but with heavy luggage and nice air-con the taxi option is way better.

First impression of the bars at 130 and 136 street is that you are literally attacked by the girls from you enter till you leave. The Corner 136 Bar was first stop and I had 6 girls surrounding me at the balcony on second floor. I had 4 pairs of hands at me the whole time I sat there, providing massage, touching my body etc. Very friendly girls and one of them a real stunner. Did not give LD as it was just too overwhelming. Continued drinking in 5-6 other bars in the area and it was an amazing level of energy in all bars. Loud music, girls screaming and dancing and some very pushy for LD. Alaska seems like the most popular bar. Some guys had to leave because there was no seats and the bar is quite small. Prices for beer around 1,5 USD, drinks 3-4 USD. I thought the Angkor beer was quite flat and tasteless really, but the drinks were good. The general quality of girls could be compared to Pattaya soi6 girls, but the real gems was better looking than you find in soi6. Not many of them, but those were real goodlooking ladies. Girls are a lot more pushy than in Thailand. I like to sit and observe in bars, but not possible here. Girls wanted to talk and drink, like a frenzy. I was very tired and decided not to barfine this night. Ended up in Sharkys's Bar close to my hotel in 130 street, wich was a pleasant change of ambience. Large bar with a different music and no pressure from ladies. They have live music some nights with jam sessions on Sunday nights.

I'm sure it is possible to have some good times in these bars and there should be no problem to find a girl to barfine. I'm looking forward to my next days here.

Sam Sanuk
10-23-19, 00:36
As a firsttime visitor to Cambodia and Phnom Penh I was looking forward to compare the bar scene with Pattaya and Bangkok. I'm sure it is possible to have some good times in these bars and there should be no problem to find a girl to barfine. I'm looking forward to my next days here.Reads like you've got a first glimpse of PP hostess bars. Things can be a bit over-whelming at first. LOL I've found that telling the flash mob that I'm buying only one lady drink disperses the crowd fairly quickly. There will be a few who still hang around. Best to just stick to your guns while being friendly. Sad faces don't get any slack. LOL.

After BKK being my favorite destination for several decades, I've found the PP scene a refreshing / different experience.

SS.

Aviator12
10-24-19, 10:00
Wanted to give street 104 a try, so went there early around 7. 30 PM. I had envisioned this street to be longer, after some you-tube vids, but was amazed it was just a small stretch of a street. Bars was emty at that time, but after the first bar TopTen I went to Rose Bar. This bar had 2-3 customers when I arrived. Two very sexy girls took all the attention in this bar. The other bunch just seemed to have given up, LOL. These two girls were dark skinned and sexy. Had one drink with one of them. Very talkative, good English, even spoke some Scandinavian words, beautiful skinny body and nice ass. Said she drink around 20 drinks per night, the night before she was drinking until 5 AM. What an energy these girls have! Suddenly the bar was filled up with a gang of what looked like a rugby team, 20 big guys in all. That certainly got the girls going. Everybody very happy! I left the bar and headed for another just across the street. Met a nice girl there, sweet and a little shy, 25 years old. Decided to barfine her short time. Agreed to 40 USD. She came with me for some barhopping in street 130 and 136. She was cute, but for some reason she gave off some vibes that I could not really understand; like she was too shy or too conservative for this game. Anyway, after some pool at Sharkey's took her to the room for some fun. First; she insisted on shower alone, walking wrapped in towel, asked me to turn off all light etc. That is a warning sign that the girl is really not a pornstar! But I hade been warned from reading this forum that some Cambodian girls are conservative, so I was prepared for that. Once the action started, she was really into it, so no complaints. She left after spending a total of aprox. 5 hours with me so I was happy.

MrClen
10-24-19, 22:34
Wanted to give street 104 a try, so went there early around 7. 30 PM. I had envisioned this street to be longer, after some you-tube vids, but was amazed it was just a small stretch of a street. Bars was emty at that time, but after the first bar TopTen I went to Rose Bar. This bar had 2-3 customers when I arrived. Two very sexy girls took all the attention in this bar. The other bunch just seemed to have given up, LOL. These two girls were dark skinned and sexy. Had one drink with one of them. Very talkative, good English, even spoke some Scandinavian words, beautiful skinny body and nice ass. Said she drink around 20 drinks per night, the night before she was drinking until 5 AM. What an energy these girls have! Suddenly the bar was filled up with a gang of what looked like a rugby team, 20 big guys in all. That certainly got the girls going. Everybody very happy! I left the bar and headed for another just across the street. Met a nice girl there, sweet and a little shy, 25 years old. Decided to barfine her short time. Agreed to 40 USD. She came with me for some barhopping in street 130 and 136. She was cute, but for some reason she gave off some vibes that I could not really understand; like she was too shy or too conservative for this game. Anyway, after some pool at Sharkey's took her to the room for some fun. First; she insisted on shower alone, walking wrapped in towel, asked me to turn off all light etc. That is a warning sign that the girl is really not a pornstar! But I hade been warned from reading this forum that some Cambodian girls are conservative, so I was prepared for that. Once the action started, she was really into it, so no complaints. She left after spending a total of aprox. 5 hours with me so I was happy.As I really only do KTV's, and only in China, if you get to any let me know what you find out. First time in Cambodia coming up in mid December.

Mr More
10-31-19, 07:02
Coming for conference in mid-November. Venue is Phnom Penh Hotel. Is it girl friendly? Any chance there are girls onsite? (No time to go out hunting really.) How about nearby massage? (With happy ending) Doing my due diligence but most of the posts are bar related. Any recommended websites for independents? (Not services.) Have read of the various cheap KTVs but this trip isn't for exploration! (Maybe next time.) I am able to receive PMs so feel free to answer that way. Maybe recommend someone specific and where to find / contact her.

Blanquiceleste
10-31-19, 15:19
Coming for conference in mid-November. Venue is Phnom Penh Hotel. Is it girl friendly? Any chance there are girls onsite? (No time to go out hunting really.) How about nearby massage? (With happy ending) Doing my due diligence but most of the posts are bar related. Any recommended websites for independents? (Not services.) Have read of the various cheap KTVs but this trip isn't for exploration! (Maybe next time.) I am able to receive PMs so feel free to answer that way. Maybe recommend someone specific and where to find / contact her.I don't know of any place called Phnom Penh Hotel. There is Ohana Phnom Penh Hotel and Harmony Phnom Penh Hotel that come closest in name. Are you sure this is the right place?

Most hotels will have an in-house spa but they are more likely to be clean massages. No extras. PP is not a very developed market for organised P4P except for the bar scene and a couple of night clubs / discos. So there is almost nothing online.

You might have to do some legwork if you want some results. No pain, no gain. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Banana Boi
11-01-19, 00:28
Paid 18 USD for taxi from the airport to LeVincent hotel in street 130. Is this the new taxi rate? Was 12 USD for the longest time.

SreyMun
11-01-19, 02:06
Is this the new taxi rate? Was 12 USD for the longest time.If you do a lot of traveling around Phnom Penh it's worth to download Grab or the local app PassApp. You can order a car or a tuk tuk anywhere in the capital. To / from the airport will cost you about 8-9 USD. Short trips 1-3 USD.

Kazeu
11-01-19, 05:00
Is this the new taxi rate? Was 12 USD for the longest time.Its only 18 if you don't know how to bargain. My advice is to just use grab for all transportation. Their pricing is quite competitive.

Mr More
11-01-19, 06:37
Thanks for jumping in. The hotel is http://phnompenhhotel.com/# and the banner says Phnom Penh Hotel. Maybe you know it under one of the other names. I will let you all know the neighborhood after my visit.


I don't know of any place called Phnom Penh Hotel. There is Ohana Phnom Penh Hotel and Harmony Phnom Penh Hotel that come closest in name. Are you sure this is the right place?

Most hotels will have an in-house spa but they are more likely to be clean massages. No extras. PP is not a very developed market for organised P4P except for the bar scene and a couple of night clubs / discos. So there is almost nothing online.

You might have to do some legwork if you want some results. No pain, no gain. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Houston Player
11-01-19, 07:12
Is this the new taxi rate? Was 12 USD for the longest time.I was there a month ago and it was $15. The drivers all had this card they were handing out showing the price so as to try to stop negotiating. Like it was an official airport rule. Anyway I didn't care because there were two of us and we split the fare.

The problem with Grab is I don't think they will let the Grab drivers come inside the airport to pick you up, so you have to lug you luggage outside the airport to find your ride. Also it's usually hot as hell, LOL. There may be a way around this but it's just not worth the hassle for $15. I guess I should clarify it's not worth it to me.

Blanquiceleste
11-01-19, 13:44
I was there a month ago and it was $15. The drivers all had this card they were handing out showing the price so as to try to stop negotiating. Like it was an official airport rule. Anyway I didn't care because there were two of us and we split the fare.

The problem with Grab is I don't think they will let the Grab drivers come inside the airport to pick you up, so you have to lug you luggage outside the airport to find your ride. Also it's usually hot as hell, LOL. There may be a way around this but it's just not worth the hassle for $15. I guess I should clarify it's not worth it to me.I was there in August and also just a month ago. Grab and Passapp work just fine. Both are permitted to drive right inside and pick you up right outside the terminal where you buy local SIM cards from. And they both charge roughly around $7. The cars I got on both visits were a Toyota Landcruiser. So comfortable ride to the Riverside in sweltering heat.

Kazeu
11-01-19, 16:13
I just use the grab for one of the 3 wheelers. They sometimes call them tuktuks still. They are motorbikes with a covered seat for 2 or 3 people in the back. They don't have aircon but they definitely pick you up inside the gate. Last time it was $7 and we went 16 km according to google maps. I don't really find the heat to be an issue. But I'm used to southeast asia.


I was there a month ago and it was $15. The drivers all had this card they were handing out showing the price so as to try to stop negotiating. Like it was an official airport rule. Anyway I didn't care because there were two of us and we split the fare.

The problem with Grab is I don't think they will let the Grab drivers come inside the airport to pick you up, so you have to lug you luggage outside the airport to find your ride. Also it's usually hot as hell, LOL. There may be a way around this but it's just not worth the hassle for $15. I guess I should clarify it's not worth it to me.

Axiata
11-02-19, 12:17
Arrived yesterday and by late afternoon hit 136 street. Only a few bars open mid afternoon and there was not much worth barfining so decided to leave and rest up. Decided to hit Darlin Darlin and take a dressed up doll for a short time. Arrived about 10 pm and the pickings were not bad. Usual small chat with a few girls and then met one that was eager and pretty. Not really my type but as it was only a short time decided to give her a fly.

In the room she was fun and good to performer but not a GFE. Sent her on her way after an hour and decided to hit Pontoon. Arrived there about 1 am but it was a little quiet. Had a few drinks watching out for any decent talent but after one hour decided nothing was worth the punt. Headed back to 136 to see if anything was left there to grab. Stopped by a bar in the middle of three that I think was Tiger Bar. It had a lot of girls and some were cute. One in particular grabbed my attention. Had that look and manner of a girl who was a little naughty and fun. Nice face and body. Decided to buy her a few drinks and play some pool. After about an hour I bar fined her and we went back to the hotel. She was a great performer. Total GFE and did not hesitate to please. Would definitely see her again. What I found surprising is that the two girls both gave BBBJ without me asking, and that is not common in Cambodia. The Darlin Darlin girl did it well whereas the bar girl was a little less experienced with it. However who can complain about a sweet young giving you a BBBJ even if they are not that good at it. Certainly not me!

So day 1 was off to a good start. Will file more reports as I go.

Happy Hunting.

Aviator12
11-03-19, 17:11
Spent 5 days in Phnom Penh, for mongering only. Tried bars in street 130,136 and 104. Did not try the nightclubs like Pontoon or Darlin Darlin. I would describe Phnom Penh like a mix of a Thailand and Philippines. I was surprised that bargirls speak English better than expected. It is a poor country and some of the life and family stories these girls tell you is really sad. Some of them have no money at all. In that way it is similar to the Philippines. A Thai bar girl will normally be better off and I guess the average income for people in Thailand is quite better than in Cambodia. But the girls are lovely and the price level is still acceptable. 1 USD for a beer, 3-4 USD for a drink and almost the same for LD. Barfines 10 USD and LT can be had at 40-50 USD, depending on how desperate the girl is. The most sexy girls will ask for more. The vibe especially in street 130 and 136 is a barfly's heaven. Some bars are open 24 hours. But the scene is small. Riverfront area have cosy cafes and hotels in French colonial style. Quite nice to sit there and relax with a cold beer or a good wine. Stayed at LE Vincent hotel. Basic and fast internet, but not much else. Will stay another place the next time. Streets full of garbage and some rats, so if that put you off you should go elsewhere. I am sure I will return, but maybe only for 3-4 nights over a weekend. The nightlife options in Bangkok and Pattaya is so much bigger, so staying longer in PP means you will need to visit the same bars again and again. I did not visit tourist places. And there are not many. Decided not to visit the Killing Fields or related museum as this periode in Cambodian history (1974 - 1979) is really just a national tragedy. Anyway, I am glad I made the trip and would be happy to re-visit maybe next year.

Sam Sanuk
11-04-19, 09:37
Spent 5 days in Phnom Penh, for mongering only. Tried bars in street 130,136 and 104. Did not try the nightclubs like Pontoon or Darlin Darlin. I would describe Phnom Penh like a mix of a Thailand and Philippines. I was surprised that bargirls speak English better than expected. It is a poor country and some of the life and family stories these girls tell you is really sad. Some of them have no money at all. In that way it is similar to the Philippines. A Thai bar girl will normally be better off and I guess the average income for people in Thailand is quite better than in Cambodia. But the girls are lovely and the price level is still acceptable. 1 USD for a beer, 3-4 USD for a drink and almost the same for LD. Barfines 10 USD and LT can be had at 40-50 USD, depending on how desperate the girl is. The most sexy girls will ask for more. The vibe especially in street 130 and 136 is a barfly's heaven. Some bars are open 24 hours. But the scene is small. Riverfront area have cosy cafes and hotels in French colonial style. Quite nice to sit there and relax with a cold beer or a good wine. Stayed at LE Vincent hotel. Basic and fast internet, but not much else. Will stay another place the next time. Streets full of garbage and some rats, so if that put you off you should go elsewhere. I am sure I will return, but maybe only for 3-4 nights over a weekend. The nightlife options in Bangkok and Pattaya is so much bigger, so staying longer in PP means you will need to visit the same bars again and again. I did not visit tourist places. And there are not many..Your observations and experiences are almost exactly the same as mine. Not that much to do in PP in terms of tourist stuff, though I did enjoy going out to "Silk Island". After visiting the former Khmer Rouge prison I was depressed enough that the Killing Fields wasn't going to have me as a visitor. After mongering in Thailand since the 70's I've now decided to spend most of my trips in Cambo. I used to love the BKK go-go's, but now favor the less expensive and less blood-thirsty damsels of PP. In fact, my next trip will be 7 nights in Siem Reap (have an old "friend" there), 3 or 4 nights in BKK, and 6 nights in PP.

I'm glad you had a good time and experienced the difference in offerings. Excellent thumbnail description of the scene.

SS.

RunMemphis
11-04-19, 23:32
Aviator and Axiata — thanks for reporting on your experiences!

I will take my virgin trip to PP in July and have been reading up and watching the YouTube videos. I have a pretty good feel and plan on enjoying those streets, hanging out with hostess girls and pulling a few! Cheap drinks, laughs, and Asian poon will fit me just right!

Did you find many drink working girls that wouldn't barfine?

What time did you start your night?

Aviator12
11-05-19, 13:23
Aviator and Axiata thanks for reporting on your experiences!

I will take my virgin trip to PP in July and have been reading up and watching the YouTube videos. I have a pretty good feel and plan on enjoying those streets, hanging out with hostess girls and pulling a few! Cheap drinks, laughs, and Asian poon will fit me just right!

Did you find many drink working girls that wouldn't barfine?

What time did you start your night?I obviously did not ask all the girls in every bar about barfine, but I would guess maybe 60% of them will go? Bargirls have many reasons for NOT going and they can change their opinion from day to day. And also the attitude and appearance of the man influence her reply. I only met one girl that actually told me from the start that she only drink with men in the bar. The other girls clearly signalled they wanted a barfine. So I guess it is my luck, or whatever. I started my night normally around 9 PM and the bars would fill up by then (the busy bars). If you go at 6 or 7 PM the girls will be there but most bars are quite empty. Be prepared to be surrounded by many ladies asking for LD, providing massage etc. The girls are great fun and you can enjoy a game of pool in most bars. Only one bar (Corner bar 136?) had dancing girls on stage, so it is not a go-go style set-up like in Thailand.

Paolo99
11-05-19, 13:40
Only one bar (Corner bar 136?) had dancing girls on stage, so it is not a go-go style set-up like in Thailand.I think that "The Office" on street 118 is also like that. I didn't go there myself, but a girl told me it's like that.

Nazgylg15
11-05-19, 16:51
I think that "The Office" on street 118 is also like that. I didn't go there myself, but a girl told me it's like that.The office at 118 has a neat set up. There is a dance area on the first floor with a few poles. It a small area and customers can watch the girls dance seated in the ground floor. I visited the bar at around 11 pm and saw set of three girls with skimpy clothes, almost bikini, dancing. All of them had nice racks but no nudity or exposure.

RunMemphis
11-06-19, 01:29
I like to enjoy my day and afternoon and then lay down for a Quick nap and then head out for beers, flirting and fun! Any crime or sketchy situations? I'm staying on St 172 and will grab a tuk tuk in the evening to bounce around.

Liggi1
11-06-19, 04:40
This Tour is not important and the sell clothes only with 1 percent silk but tell you is 100 % silk.

SreyMun
11-06-19, 05:35
I like to enjoy my day and afternoon and then lay down for a Quick nap and then head out for beers, flirting and fun! Any crime or sketchy situations? I'm staying on St 172 and will grab a tuk tuk in the evening to bounce around.Be careful with your bag (loads of thieves on motorcycles cruising for victims) and phone, and don't trust the in-room safe too much. Cases of staff opening it and exchanging 100 $ note for ones with 'COPY' on it have been reported (with most victims blaming the ATM). If you use a safe, use the big hotel safe and use a sealed envelope with (at least the last) numbers of your 100 $ notes written on the envelope as proof.

About a tuk tuk, from 172 it's a short walk to 136-130-118 street. 172 has a selection of bars as well.

SreyMun
11-06-19, 05:40
I just use the grab for one of the 3 wheelers. They sometimes call them tuktuks still. They are motorbikes with a covered seat for 2 or 3 people in the back. They don't have aircon but they definitely pick you up inside the gate. Last time it was $7 and we went 16 km according to google maps. I don't really find the heat to be an issue. But I'm used to southeast asia.Grab drivers, or PassApp, are allowed in the airport, but they're charged 2000 r now. It's not yet implemented in the app so you might want to give them some compensation for that. Just select the airport pick up point (on the main road in front of the terminal) in the app and you'll be fine. 4-5 USD into town.

Paolo99
11-06-19, 09:20
I like to enjoy my day and afternoon and then lay down for a Quick nap and then head out for beers, flirting and fun! Any crime or sketchy situations? I'm staying on St 172 and will grab a tuk tuk in the evening to bounce around.If you read news about Cambodia you'll see that there are a lot of crimes over there (and some of the most horrible ones) but it's mostly between Khmer people.

As a tourist I've never felt unsafe there, and I've been walking down all the streets at night and even the darkest owns, only in the touristic areas though but I doubt you'll find yourself wandering in places other than the touristic ones in your first trip.

Crimes that foreigners might be victim of are usually snatch bag, snatch phone, having your money stolen in a massage parlor or being caught in an argument in a shitty bar (Candy bar as an example, fights broke often in such places).

As for everywhere else usual recommendations are to not get overly drunk, don't take strange substances, keep an eye on your food and drinks, beware of people that want to befriend you for no reason, keep calm and be polite in all circumstances and I'm sure you'll have a great time in PP.

Street 172 is not far from the action, it's just a 5 or 10 minutes walk, you'll need a tuktuk only if you bring a girl back with you.

As always, don't forget to report back and have a nice trip in PP.

Axiata
11-06-19, 11:50
Aviator and Axiata thanks for reporting on your experiences!

I will take my virgin trip to PP in July and have been reading up and watching the YouTube videos. I have a pretty good feel and plan on enjoying those streets, hanging out with hostess girls and pulling a few! Cheap drinks, laughs, and Asian poon will fit me just right!

Did you find many drink working girls that wouldn't barfine?

What time did you start your night?Have been to PP many times and never had a bar girl say no to a bar fine. However I have had a mate be rejected by a good looker from Corner Bar. I did warn him that she was likely to be someone's girl. Just way too good looking to be turning tricks. More likely having fun with her girlfriends knowing that she had a boyfriend who was taking care of her. So she danced and got tips but did not bar fine.

Anyway back to the scene. My recent trip I bar fined girls from 104 bars and during the day from 136 bars late in afternoon. And Darlin Darlin which is a pickup bar so not really a bar fine place. No issue at all. It could be different for others and yes, the girls can sometimes be as picky as we are. Depends when their rent is due! Things were quiet as well so maybe the girls needed the money more!

Happy Hunting.

Banana Boi
11-06-19, 17:12
Did you find many drink working girls that wouldn't barfine?I had a great time with 2 girls from a bar on 136. Great DFK, mutual groping, photos, etc. from both girls for hours. Don't remember the bar name but we went to the private upstairs area. I recall my drink bill ended up being $60 USD. My intentions were not to barfine either girl that evening since I had a date lined up already but I asked the ladyboy bartender how much for the girls. My answer was they are "ORIGINAL" and they do not barfine. I wasn't too upset but I still yelled at the ladyboy for a bit. One girl was the prettiest facially I had ever seen in PP. Should have known something was up. I continued to see both girls in the bar for 2 years after that but made sure I only bought 1 drink each. They would hang out well over an hour each time for 1 drink. Worth it just to DFK them and get a new set of photos.

RunMemphis, the above is surely a rare occurrence in PP. Girls and bars are so desperate for cash they can't afford to reject a customer.

Blanquiceleste
11-07-19, 00:49
I had a great time with 2 girls from a bar on 136. Great DFK, mutual groping, photos, etc. from both girls for hours. Don't remember the bar name but we went to the private upstairs area. I recall my drink bill ended up being $60 USD. My intentions were not to barfine either girl that evening since I had a date lined up already but I asked the ladyboy bartender how much for the girls. My answer was they are "ORIGINAL" and they do not barfine. I wasn't too upset but I still yelled at the ladyboy for a bit. One girl was the prettiest facially I had ever seen in PP. Should have known something was up. I continued to see both girls in the bar for 2 years after that but made sure I only bought 1 drink each. They would hang out well over an hour each time for 1 drink. Worth it just to DFK them and get a new set of photos.

RunMemphis, the above is surely a rare occurrence in PP. Girls and bars are so desperate for cash they can't afford to reject a customer.BB how long back was this? A lot has changed in over the last 2 years in PP and IMHO is the most dynamic mongering market in SEA. It is not uncommon to find bars with nearly 50% of the girls refusing a barfine, but only available to drink. Because many of them make a decent buck per night without having to spread their legs. And you know who is to thank for letting this practice hold root and flourish. To top it all, girls are getting increasingly tech savvy, and they manage to engage a "boyfriend" or two online who are happy to send them money and gifts without ever meeting them. Insane.

A lot more bars that have ladyboys mixed with the girls now too.

Paolo99
11-08-19, 11:49
Girls and bars are so desperate for cash they can't afford to reject a customer.This is probably the case for most of the bargirls in PP, but these desperate girls might be the ones that nobody want to barfine.

Example, around ten days ago I entered Route 136 at 2 am and took a seat near a girl that I wanted to interact with, she didn't give a shit about me taking directly the seat next to her. She was looking her facebook stuffs on her phone and her body was turned on the other side of the bar, I was facing her back.

I decided that I would try to talk with her anyway and gently put my hand on the left side of her back.

She immediately stood up, acted as if she was fed up, went directly to the opposite side of the bar and talked with one of the bargirls. She pointed at me and said something like " it's time for me to go now, even that asshole thinks he can touch me like that" (I didn't hear or understood what she said but it was definitely something like that).

She then put her jacket on, helmet on, took her bike and moved on. She was far from being the most beautiful girl in PP, she even wear glasses and was probably 30+ and I'm sure she is a WG because I saw her a few times while I was walking in front of the place.

I thought WTF is that, the girl is supposed to entertain guys and she acts like a princess.

It was not even about barfine, some girls even put attitude just for talking with some customers.

I think these kind of girls are very few though.

In previous visits I also met some girls that openly say they won't barfine.

Most of the time the issue was the difference of age, if she is on the young side (around 20+) and you're on the other side of the scale (I'm not even that old, just 40+) that can happen, or it might also happen with girls that cannot speak English (given that the guy is clean, put good clothes on and bla bla bla). If anyone is concerned about that, you can ask her directly in the beginning or at the moment she asks for a LD. I doubt she would lie about that.

Compared to previous visits, I found that generally the quality of the girls was lower this time, and girls are putting a lot more attitude than before so I don't think they are that desperate even though they look like they need some cash.

MrClen
11-13-19, 22:28
I don't think you are missing anything.

Unfortunately, I only visited about a half dozen bars and only on Street 136. Advanced arthritis severely limited my travels on foot. If anybody saw an old fart hobbling around with a cane, it was probably me. LOL Should've had a cortisone injection before my trip. Also, a case of the shits kept me sidelined for a few days. The bars I patronized were the Pussy Cat, 69 Bar, Candy Bar, Moonrise, Sweetie and one or two others. Didn't try Secrets. I was aware of the pricing there. If you are missing anything, it is maybe the recollection of what the pricing has been historically in PP. Sure, the price of pussy has gone up everywhere. But it just seems like the prices in PP have escalated disproportionally in PP compared to other venues. I only barfined once. Cute 19 year old, 2 weeks on the scene. She was quite thankful for the $60 I put next to her purse in the morning. I, personally, did not get quoted $100. But my wingman was quoted that at 3 different bars. Yeah, the girls who quoted that were one of the top 2 (in my opinion) in each of the bars. You are right about $. 75 beers. Can't be beat except at a convenience store. LOL Fortunately, a former Soi Cowboy dancer I've known for 3 decades flew over to visit for a few days. And my married Khmer "girlfriend" of 22 years stopped by when she could. I'll be 78 in a couple of weeks, so I have about 50 years of fucking my way around SEA. Old school. With indelible memories of when "sanuk" was really "sanuk" and not like buying / renting a used car. I don't need a Ferrari to get me from Point A to Point be. LOL.

SS.Now you are one guy I would like to meet. 78 years old! Well I am 79 (didn't think it would come this soon) but am still active an am told I look about 65 or so. I love the KTV atmosphere, singing and playing and getting to know my evenings entertainment. I will be going to PP in early December and staying at Naga World but only for the weekend. I will be going with some Korean friends who may know their way around a bit, but if you happen to be there leave a post.

Banana Boi
11-14-19, 09:43
It is not uncommon to find bars with nearly 50% of the girls refusing a barfine, but only available to drink. Because many of them make a decent buck per night without having to spread their legs.Haven't been to PP for some time and this is not a motivator for me to return any time soon. I'm one who takes pride in being able to barfine a girl who many are unable to but when the number is nearly 50% that would be annoying and more effort and time than I care to spend.

Are these girls absolutely unattainable or does it depend on the guy and, more importantly, the money that is offered?

Axiata
11-14-19, 10:07
Haven't been to PP for some time and this is not a motivator for me to return any time soon. I'm one who takes pride in being able to barfine a girl who many are unable to but when the number is nearly 50% that would be annoying and more effort and time than I care to spend.

Are these girls absolutely unattainable or does it depend on the guy and, more importantly, the money that is offered?BB, I have been to PP a lot and most times the girls are up for extra cash. It does depend on which bars but that is no different to Pattaya or BKK. Cambos are good fun, sweet and not as hardened as Thais or Viets. They are still playful and when they like you give a great GFE. Most of the girls I have been with and still see when I go there are bar fined girls. Now I do spend a little bit of money when on tour (as you know) so that I think that helps as well. Helps me at least and I need all the help I can get!

My last trip was three weeks ago and it was a blast. Barfined girls from 136 in late afternoon and 10 at night. Found one that I repeated a few times as well. Even grabbed one from Darlin Darlin but she was nothing special in bed although she was pretty.

There is no Soi 6 like Pattaya has and no Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza like BKK. However if you look in enough bars, find the target you like, you will most likely get a bar fine. That said, the quality can vary a lot as well. This trip I thought it was low but the bars on 104 did have some younger cute ones. Not a lot of customers on 104 so that also helps. At my age I cannot argue about spending time with younger girls who want to take my money and please me. If they do not want to I move on to one that does and PP has a lot of girls.

Happy Hunting.

Sammon
11-14-19, 12:30
I think it is happening everywhere. Women these days are empowered to certain extent even if they are working in a bar. They get to pick and choose who they want to have sex and who they do not want. It is not like dipping in a candy box and take home your pick anymore. Some mongers will have good success and some will not. All girls need sex and want to make money.

I would not go with a girl who is not interested. It will definitely affect the service. Gone are the days when the girls are desperate for money and will open their legs for anybody. All the mongering destinations have the same issue. Bars used to be strict but anymore in making girls go. I prefer meeting and getting together on social media. After chatting and talking we seem to connect and sex is much better although money changes hands. Unfortunately not all the world's girls speak English to make the connection.

Blanquiceleste
11-14-19, 15:55
Haven't been to PP for some time and this is not a motivator for me to return any time soon. I'm one who takes pride in being able to barfine a girl who many are unable to but when the number is nearly 50% that would be annoying and more effort and time than I care to spend.

Are these girls absolutely unattainable or does it depend on the guy and, more importantly, the money that is offered?Well, I will be on ground mid-December. Even though that 50% hit rate is a bummer, I still like the vibe and non-sharky demeanor of the Khmer girls.

I cannot say if the girls who refuse to barfine are absolutely unattainable or whether they will go out with the right guy for the right price. Simply because I do not chase such girls, unless I have been struck by lightning. And that has happened just once. I met a girl at Xanadu on my trip in April 2019, who refused to go out. I was totally besotted by her, dunno why. So I took her Line ID and kept in touch. When I returned in August, I asked her out again and she refused. And finally when I went back in early October and asked her out for the third time, she caved in.

Was she good?

Absolutely thrilling. Not a very talented BBBJ but the GFE was top notch and kinda genuine.

Was the chase worth it?

Sometimes its all about the chase.

Will I do it again?

Hell, if I find another girl like that, by all means.

CIMguy
11-18-19, 18:37
Anyone try Massa or Hotel Luxury World or Mean Haur Hotel for a soapy massage?

Do they do actual soapy massage or is it just called that because of the fishbowl when choosing a girl?

Good / Bad experiences with these places?

Thanks.

GreenBud
11-24-19, 13:17
- Happy Herb Pizza was an institution. It was the first one that sprinkled weed on the pizza. It was listed in every travel book. Many copy-cats popped up.

- Last year, the stored was closed. Now, that place has been replaced by Happy Paradise Pizza.

- This is the story I heard from the tuk-tuk drivers that sold / sell weed. The owner of pizza place next door was arrested. They found 5 kilos of weed at his house. Then they arrested So-Pal, the owner of Happy Herb Pizza. They followed him and found his stash. So-Pal never sold weed himself. It was always his employee.

- The owner of the pizza place next door supposedly paid a large bribe to get out of jail. One person said $50K. Another said $10K. They are still selling, but supposedly they are paying the police every month. (So fucking CORRUPT!) Happy Herb owner, So-Pal got out of jail after paying bribe, but he closed his shop.

- The reason I heard on why they got arrested was because they sold to Cambodian students (high school kids). They said there was high traffic going there.

- I'm hearing contradictory things about the tuk-tuk sellers and the foreigners. One person said the police are going after the sellers and foreigners. Another said that they don't bother anyone as long as they sell only to foreigners. I believe the later because as a tourist walks along the riverside, he is constantly asked if he wants weed. The tuk-tuk drivers will show you the weed somewhat out in the open.

- As always, it's caveat emptor. The days of open smoking along the riverside is gone. People needs to be discreet.

- On a side note, the Dirty Sailor (on St 172) used to sell indoor quality weed. But the price was ridiculous ($20 per gram), more than California. That place got busted. It closed. People speculated that the owner from Amsterdam paid a large bribe. Indoor quality is still available from somewhere else, but price is still ridiculous.

Lifeingr
11-26-19, 10:48
Anyone try Massa or Hotel Luxury World or Mean Haur Hotel for a soapy massage?

Do they do actual soapy massage or is it just called that because of the fishbowl when choosing a girl?

Good / Bad experiences with these places?

Thanks.I went to the Hotel Luxury World but the quality was very low and didn't choose any girl. Then I tried to go to the 252 massage. I didn't even bother to go inside. The building itself looks so bad and dirty that turned me off completely. I must say that most places in Cambodia are very dirty.

Paolo99
11-27-19, 09:42
I went to the Hotel Luxury World but the quality was very low and didn't choose any girl. Then I tried to go to the 252 massage. I didn't even bother to go inside. The building itself looks so bad and dirty that turned me off completely. I must say that most places in Cambodia are very dirty.You're wrong, massage 252 was not dirty when I've been there. I went there multiple times during one my trips in PP and the rooms were clean.

The thing that I didn't like there was to have to negotiate the price directly with the girl before taking her in the room.

And it's not a soapy place, it's just a basic fuck and go place. My experiences there were not very good but I guess it depends on the girl you chose.

Meo Den
11-28-19, 04:48
You're wrong, massage 252 was not dirty when I've been there. I went there multiple times during one my trips in PP and the rooms were clean.

The thing that I didn't like there was to have to negotiate the price directly with the girl before taking her in the room.

And it's not a soapy place, it's just a basic fuck and go place. My experiences there were not very good but I guess it depends on the girl you chose.252 was refurbished three years ago and they cleaned up the rooms, but it's grungy again. Holes in the ceilings, and they don't change sheets between customers. One time I walked into a shower and found a girl (or a punter?) had left a shit balanced on the toilet seat. I'd say that was filthy.

Chinese are paying $15 just for the room (there is really no massage). There's a very slim chance you would find a girl there worth as much as $30. Many of the Chinese are happy to pay $70-100.

I realise people don't want to hear this, but 15 years ago cute girls were available in central Phnom Penh. Foreigners generaly paid $5. Check out the movie City of Ghosts, part filmed in an MP on street 63 using actual massage girls.

The rooms at Luxury World (sold and rebranded I think) are decent enough $10. They have a lot of girls in the fishbowl but the line up is very unappealng. They look like they rarely get a customer, and if they do they want to maximise their take on the transaction.

There has been an explosion of Chinese MPs around town, some fairly upmarket in their facilities. Enthusiasts may like to investigate. If they are welcome.

Meo Den
11-29-19, 01:49
The rooms at Luxury World (sold and rebranded I think) are decent enough $10. They have a lot of girls in the fishbowl but the line up is very unappealng. They look like they rarely get a customer, and if they do they want to maximise their take on the transaction.
Update: Luxury World now renamed Luxury City. About 20 women in the bowl on the first floor, 6 of them Vietnamese. Nothing very interesting. Maybe 97.

The hotel itself looks a little run down but rooms are going for $17 right now, not the worst deal. Some construction work nearby.

What I did notice was ther are 3 floors of massage, the topmost one 'VIP'. Bell hop said 'ladies more beautiful' there. But neither reception nor mamasan were inclined to let us have a look. Maybe not open until later, or maybe they prefer Chinese clientel.

If you stay there you can get the massage girls to come to your room, but $10 charge remains.

Redwing
12-01-19, 07:10
Now you are one guy I would like to meet. 78 years old! Well I am 79 (didn't think it would come this soon) but am still active an am told I look about 65 or so. I love the KTV atmosphere, singing and playing and getting to know my evenings entertainment. I will be going to PP in early December and staying at Naga World but only for the weekend. I will be going with some Korean friends who may know their way around a bit, but if you happen to be there leave a post.This is inspiring! I'm 60 years old & thought my mongering days were numbered but now I'm reading about 78 & 79 year olds who are still active! What's the secret guys, leading a clean healthy life or just lot's of little blue pills? LOL. Whatever it is I wish you both many more happy years in the sport!

JoeTexas69
12-01-19, 15:05
Looking for any advice on a Phnom Penh Airbnb's or Hotels that are OK with me bringing more than 1 or more ladies back to my room?

Perennial
12-02-19, 10:27
Air travel via China is dirt cheap. Checked bag arrived reliably. Food on Southern China Air was very good. Lux Riverside is a good place to stay. Many cheaper, smaller, more discrete guesthouses available.

City is pleasant, in Nov / Dec dry with occasional rain shower, 30 C, sunny. Mekong river brings fresh air. People are friendly and relaxed. Lots of smiles. In overwhelming majority of encounters non-sharky, cheerful attitude.

Cambodia is in the least developed country category. There are 100's of Western companies whose revenues are higher than this country's GDP (generated by 13 million Khmer. In exchange rate terms about 1300 US $ per capita in 2017. In purchasing power parity terms at a less ridiculous 4 000 US $.

97% of the country are of Khmer ethnicity and Buddhist religion. Stable, apparently autocratic government. Longest-serving non-royal prime minister in the world, basically in power since 1985. Apparently very corrupt country to do business in. But relatively low Gini coefficient, meaning relatively even distribution of wealth.

If you are street wise, a safe place to be as a foreigner. Carry no ID, no credit card, but 100 US $ in cash and even the worst case scenario (robbery) is merely a running expense. But I witnessed none of that.

Some on this forum say the bar district is small. It is not. It may be smaller than the bar ecosystems in Bangkok or Pattaya, but larger does not mean better. Pnomh Penh offers a more relaxed atmosphere at somewhat lower cost and with Khmer peculiarities. About 100 000 Cambodian girls turn 18 each year. If the parents of only a tenth of them cannot pay for schooling, they must make a choice. Especially the pretty skinny once feel drawn. Their language is fiendishly difficult for an outsider, and their script is obscure and, of course, non-Latin / Greek / kyrillic. So the overwhelming majority of girls speak no English. Those who want to take the plunge, earn real money, monetarize their youth and beauty and support their parents are basically bound to be hanging out in Pnomh Penh, as the other cities are minor.

Blanquiceleste
12-03-19, 01:22
Air travel via China is dirt cheap. Checked bag arrived reliably. Food on Southern China Air was very good. Lux Riverside is a good place to stay. Many cheaper, smaller, more discrete guesthouses available.

City is pleasant, in Nov / Dec dry with occasional rain shower, 30 C, sunny. Mekong river brings fresh air. People are friendly and relaxed. Lots of smiles. In overwhelming majority of encounters non-sharky, cheerful attitude.

Cambodia is in the least developed country category. There are 100's of Western companies whose revenues are higher than this country's GDP (generated by 13 million Khmer. In exchange rate terms about 1300 US $ per capita in 2017. In purchasing power parity terms at a less ridiculous 4 000 US $.

97% of the country are of Khmer ethnicity and Buddhist religion. Stable, apparently autocratic government. Longest-serving non-royal prime minister in the world, basically in power since 1985. Apparently very corrupt country to do business in. But relatively low Gini coefficient, meaning relatively even distribution of wealth.

If you are street wise, a safe place to be as a foreigner. Carry no ID, no credit card, but 100 US $ in cash and even the worst case scenario (robbery) is merely a running expense. But I witnessed none of that.OK. Thanks for the history and economics 101 lessons. How about a real report now?

Sam Sanuk
12-03-19, 03:47
This is inspiring! I'm 60 years old & thought my mongering days were numbered but now I'm reading about 78 & 79 year olds who are still active! What's the secret guys, leading a clean healthy life or just lot's of little blue pills? LOL. Whatever it is I wish you both many more happy years in the sport!Redwing. I don't know any "secrets". If you having a good time at age 60, just keep doing what you've been doing. You'll probably learn, as the years pass, that your desire lessens; maybe your alcohol tolerance isn't what it once was. My "m. O. " is to take a shower just before going out; wear clean clothes (no tank tops, shorts, or flip flops). Be interactive with the damsels, joking and smiling; I'm not overly active with my hands unless a chick starts it or I'm in a bar where it seems encouraged or tolerated. Not every bar is a "diddling bar". I conduct a satisfactory pre-employment interview. I don't need to pay a girl a fortune; just fair compensation. (The girls do exchange information about how much you paid and what your requirements are.) I don't need a Ferrari to get from Point A to Point be, but a Yugo won't cut it. If I want a "Superstar" I can get one. And it probably won't cost me more than what the 30 year old next to me would need to pay. (The girls surely know old dudes won't bang them all night. LOL).

Sam.

Berrys66
12-03-19, 12:56
This is inspiring! I'm 60 years old & thought my mongering days were numbered but now I'm reading about 78 & 79 year olds who are still active! What's the secret guys, leading a clean healthy life or just lot's of little blue pills? LOL. Whatever it is I wish you both many more happy years in the sport!Eating lots of garlic keep the old fella hard. I usually wake up with a stiffy most mornings after eating garlic. Cycle regularly too. Most mates have a limp dick though due to unhealthy lifestyle.

Perennial
12-03-19, 23:55
OK. Thanks for the history and economics 101 lessons. How about a real report now?At the gate of patience there is no crowding.

More bluntly: Don't hastle those who enliven this forum.

Your comment is no better than the umpteenth girl harrying me for another lady drink. Be ashamed. Get over it. Stay tuned. OK mate?

Perennial
12-03-19, 23:59
It is not necessary to learn the bar names before your trip. There are so many, the endeavor would be futile. Just go with the flow. Let visual impression guide you. No cover charge. Juice at 2 US $. Beer at 3.25 US $. It is very easy to sit down an get a feel for the scenery without spending yourself into oblivion. Some folks on this forum chastise one or the other mama san (manager). Maybe they have a point. But to get to the best girls, and to keep the fun rolling, a drink here and there works wonders.

Some folks say the best looking girls are not available for take out. Let me refine that. The bar district on the river between 104 and 138 street is taxed. Police enforce 18+ policy. The bars hire very pretty newbies just to sit outside and show their face. And yes, a fair share of these princesses refuse when asked to be bedded. But patience, and, as always, money are the best aphrodisiacs. Avoid drinking alcohol. Dress lightly (foreigner with jackets look so ridiculous) but nicely (long pants, shoes or sneakers, a short sleeve shirt or polo) . Show up several days in a row. Establish eye contact. Let her know how pretty she is. Let the mama san know you want her. Eventually I found even the prettiest stunners will quote a price (short term) and will give in to your charms.

The service side suffers tremendously when picking the prettiest, 18 yo stunners. Often in Cambodia, no blow job, just touching and covered sex. You can choose the other side, full service, but looks and age bracket suffer accordingly. The ratio of stunners to all girls is one in 30 I would guess. Most girls have average Asian bodies and character. There are many more jaded chubbies than stunners. So choose what you want.

To be continued. Stay tuned. Don't argue. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. If you like this train of reports, send a thumbs up to our impatient friend.

Perennial
12-07-19, 04:21
My week revolved around the stunning Loley, by far the prettiest love bird I saw in Pnomh Penh, 20 yo, 156 cm, 42 kg, shoe size 34, breast size 1, pristine body, no tattoo,1 naval piercing, earrings, light makeup, natural finger nails, a variety of wonderful white and black dresses, beautiful ballerinas, simply a perfect tight light brown body framed by an exquisite Khmer princessy face. 70 US $ damage for two hours, 105 US $ for 4 hours incl. 2 hours of Karaoke 2 days later, and then 60 US $ damage for 1. 5 h. Looks 10. Service 7. Wow factor 10. Will never forget.

Loley (name changed) is a soft spoken slender girl at a bar whose name I withhold, one of two top lookers there, both easily 10's, the other one being Aloo (name changed), 19 yo, 154 cm, 40 kg. Loley and Aloo sit outside to attract customers, who are often handed to other girls inside the bar. They wear nice dresses and flat shoes and look like perfect dating material were I 30-some years younger. Not a yota of vulgarity. English is very basic, but google translate works wonders. Both girls are in the league of Jane March who played the lover in the filmed version of Marguerite Duras' "L'amante". Highly recommended reading au l'Indochine.

I was able to take Loley three times to my hotel room, but Aloo refused. I was infatuated with Loley anyway and ended up spending much less than I budgeted on pussy, but a little more on girly drinks to keep the good times rolling with her band of not quite so doable friends. They all need moeny and there is a strong social bond among these love birds. You got to invite the uglies also to make everybody feel nice.

Loley has had two men in her life, the guy who bought her virginity and me. No BJ. No kissing. Just touching and caressing and covered sex. Lights she wanted out first time, but could be talked into keeping them on. Loley is a good karaoke singer, very sweet. She tells she was offered to a man as a virgin at age 19 for 5000 US $. Steep price, but likely true. The guy must be filthy rich or an idiot. I saw photos, probably more the former than the latter. The experience was no good, she said. No orgasm for her. Afterwards she went home for 3 months and was depressed. Her family built a house for the money. She had not been with a man for a year afterwards, but went with me as the first man she has been with voluntarily and after her paid defloration.

Her younger sister also works at the bar but as a bartender. She is also pretty by any means but not quite at Loley's standard. She is also a bit taller, stronger and rasher.

Loley takes a shower and comes back wrapped in a towel. Takes effort to remove it. Loley is very responsive to caresses and massage and gets wet down below, is open to cuni and finger penetration, spreads nicely. A see e l e s t I a l bodyscape. I lick and caress her forever and can gauge the reaction on her lips, which she bites, and from her quickening breath.

Loley takes instructions how to carress dick and balls, but stares and smiles at you only on request. But it is sexy to give her orders and see how she responds. Once Johnny is up to form, cover on and the fun starts. Deepest vaginal penetration with her legs over my shoulders. She is so fucking tiny and cute that even the condom does not damage Johnny's stamina. She sweats and bends nicely under prolonged thrusting, and I make sure with high energy that she feels her body is being used to give pleasure. I bend and stretch her and enjoy her beautiful muscles responding to my every move. She breathes deeply. Roll into cowboy, her on top, great in and out moves, dick fully visible (she is shaven). Fantastic body. Reverse and more of the same. Finally the condom tears, grrrrrreat feeling, and I enjoy the ride for a while. Pull out and place her opposite of me, her legs spread, my legs spread, she working Johnny with one hand and the other hand reversed with a finger on and one joint in my anus, the hand caressing the balls. I was surprised given her general reticence how well she picked up that technique. She learned to lube the deepest finger and created a great sensation that led me to effortless orgasms. I remind her to smile and stare and jerk, to spit on the glans, and to continue no matter what. Keep jerking even if a bomb went off a floor above us. When she smiles, she looks several years younger. Very sweet. I move my fully erect dick close to her face, and as she responds coyly to smile and stare in my eyes I cum very strongly in several spurts. It is a pity I did not hit her face, but the optics were breathtaking anyway. She continues jerking for the longest time until we collapse, take a shower, collapse again. Sterling experience. I accompany her back to the bar and continue sweating and am somewhat breathless for the next hour. The girls in the bars know we had a good time and enjoy a late party with some food and drinks which I gladly sponsor. Post orgasmic bliss with such a stunner can last hours. To run a 2 h party costs about 50 US $.

This experience was repeated three times, with her coming during our third encounter. Her small muscled body allows exceptional penetration and I got her over the cliff. Herr sex trauma of one year ago has been relieved. Good. Now she likes. Really safe sex. She feels a purpose in her life under city glamour lights.

Since I was so taken with Loley, I did not spend time with any other spinner. Just a little GFE love affair for a small week.

Notable is also the stamina of the girls. In the oxygen rich, warm night air they keep partying until the sky turns blue again, consuming not so little beer and lots of and sea food. Great partying around the pool table. The motor cycle driven food stalls keep arriving until dawn breaks with delicious sea food, steamed rice, grilled vegetables and the like.

Barfine 10 US $. Long time is not even on offer. The birds prefer to fly back to their cage. And I pay them to leave, not to come. Don't take it against them if they whisper „can I go home now?" 15 min after getting you off. They are just a social flock. And they will gladly repeat the next day if you are nice and they feel appreciated.

Blanquiceleste
12-07-19, 05:41
At the gate of patience there is no crowding. More bluntly: Don't hastle those who enliven this forum. Your comment is no better than the umpteenth girl harrying me for another lady drink. Be ashamed. Get over it. Stay tuned. OK mate?At the gates of patience, there are often no girls either. LOL. Shame on an anonymous forum? You got to be kidding me dude. You know what happens to Lookie Lou in bars when they don't buy lady drinks?


It is not necessary to learn the bar names before your trip. There are so many, the endeavor would be futile. Just go with the flow. Let visual impression guide you. No cover charge. Juice at 2 US $. Beer at 3.25 US $. It is very easy to sit down an get a feel for the scenery without spending yourself into oblivion. Some folks on this forum chastise one or the other mama san (manager). Maybe they have a point. But to get to the best girls, and to keep the fun rolling, a drink here and there works wonders.

Some folks say the best looking girls are not available for take out. Let me refine that. The bar district on the river between 104 and 138 street is taxed. Police enforce 18+ policy. The bars hire very pretty newbies just to sit outside and show their face. And yes, a fair share of these princesses refuse when asked to be bedded. But patience, and, as always, money are the best aphrodisiacs. Avoid drinking alcohol. Dress lightly (foreigner with jackets look so ridiculous) but nicely (long pants, shoes or sneakers, a short sleeve shirt or polo) . Show up several days in a row. Establish eye contact. Let her know how pretty she is. Let the mama san know you want her. Eventually I found even the prettiest stunners will quote a price (short term) and will give in to your charms.

The service side suffers tremendously when picking the prettiest, 18 yo stunners. Often in Cambodia, no blow job, just touching and covered sex. You can choose the other side, full service, but looks and age bracket suffer accordingly. The ratio of stunners to all girls is one in 30 I would guess. Most girls have average Asian bodies and character. There are many more jaded chubbies than stunners. So choose what you want.

To be continued. Stay tuned. Don't argue. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. If you like this train of reports, send a thumbs up to our impatient friend.More preaching. Awaiting a real report. But not holding my breath.

Perennial
12-07-19, 22:08
Sperm ducts can apparently crowd out cerebral synapses. Stop being judgmental, Blanquiceleste. The Pnomh Penh forum is very quiet already, so it does not help if you think your expectations are the yard stick here, for they are not. Pnomh Penh is worth a visit, for this hobby or for general tourism. I wish more lads would share.

Blanquiceleste
12-08-19, 12:19
My week revolved around the stunning Loley....

SNIP

And they will gladly repeat the next day if you are nice and they feel appreciated.At last a report. And a pretty good one. Thank you. Credit must be given where its due.


SNIP.... is a soft spoken slender girl at a bar whose name I withhold, What a buzzkill.


Loley has had two men in her life, the guy who bought her virginity and me. No BJ. No kissing. Just touching and caressing and covered sex. Lights she wanted out first time, but could be talked into keeping them on. Loley is a good karaoke singer, very sweet. She tells she was offered to a man as a virgin at age 19 for 5000 US $. Steep price, but likely true. The guy must be filthy rich or an idiot. I saw photos, probably more the former than the latter. The experience was no good, she said. No orgasm for her. Afterwards she went home for 3 months and was depressed. Her family built a house for the money. She had not been with a man for a year afterwards, but went with me as the first man she has been with voluntarily and after her paid defloration.I don't know about the guy who paid for the defloration, but this little para tells me a few things about P.


Long time is not even on offer. The birds prefer to fly back to their cage. And I pay them to leave, not to come. Don't take it against them if they whisper can I go home now?" 15 min after getting you off. This is true for quite a few girls, but then most of them will stay long time on the second or third encounter. Of course, there will be exceptions.


Sperm ducts can apparently crowd out cerebral synapses. Stop being judgmental, Blanquiceleste. The Pnomh Penh forum is very quiet already, so it does not help if you think your expectations are the yard stick here, for they are not. Pnomh Penh is worth a visit, for this hobby or for general tourism. I wish more lads would share.LOL. Since when did making comments on reports become "judgmental"? I am aware PP is a rather quiet thread compared to Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, etc. So all the more reason to write good field reports rather than mindless meandering. I am on ground from 17 to 22 Dec. Let me know if you want to trade stories in person.

Danubius
12-08-19, 15:21
Sperm ducts can apparently crowd out cerebral synapses. Stop being judgmental, Blanquiceleste. The Pnomh Penh forum is very quiet already, so it does not help if you think your expectations are the yard stick here, for they are not. Pnomh Penh is worth a visit, for this hobby or for general tourism. I wish more lads would share.There is a rare, almost literary quality to your reports, I thoroughly enjoy reading them, they are an uncommon but welcomed experience on this site. Keep them coming please. Great writing!

Lefeu
12-09-19, 03:55
There is a rare, almost literary quality to your reports, I thoroughly enjoy reading them, they are an uncommon but welcomed experience on this site. Keep them coming please. Great writing!Yeah, great writing. Keep them coming.

Perennial
12-09-19, 08:52
Marguerite Duras' novel is entitled "L'amant'. She recounts among other things how a local businessman seduces her. The book makes for great reading, French colonial era, Mekong river. I only read it in French. The enticing Jane March starred in the filmed version. I share my experiences under several pseudonyms. That's the only reason why you see so few Perennial reports. I suspected the Cambodian sections of this forum to be so quiet because of the sad history of Cambodian sex with minors. Truth be told, that sector may exist and I will not go into that. But there is a much larger legal sector where girls have choices: 1 work in a restaurant as a server. No sex work involved. 2 work in a bar. It is totally up to them whether they go with a guest or not. In that respect the Cambodian bars give much more freedom than brothels in other places. Many bar girls live on the lady drinks and the food that guests sponsor. I wager they can live on 5 US $ earnings per day in central Pnomh Penh, meaning they need to earn merely 3 lady drinks per day. The country's per-capita GDP (in real exchangeable money) is less than 4 US $/ day, and that includes all the rich and all the companies! The Mekong brings fresh air, the climate is super. Local SIM card 12 US $ for 30 days and close to unlimited data (80 Gigabyte). Get it at the airport. Airport to city center takes 1 hour in worst traffic and 30 min in least traffic. They will charge 8 US $ at the airport and 5 US $ if you hire a tuk tuk in the city to go back to the airport. Another fun aspect was, that you can give your local cell phone number to any girl, also the restaurant server, and they'll be happy. If they are not interested, they will not call you, but smile at you if you come the next day again to their restaurant. If they like you, they will text you. All of them are 18+. Many of them are 18 and so tiny that you can play out any fantasy you may harbor in your brain without breaking any law anywhere. Keep that in mind before you make bad choices. I would love to meet be. In December, but am tied up in another part of the world. Thanks for the challenge.

Blanquiceleste
12-10-19, 01:38
Marguerite Duras' novel is entitled "L'amant'. She recounts among other things how a local businessman seduces her. The book makes for great reading, French colonial era, Mekong river. I only read it in French. The enticing Jane March starred in the filmed version. I share my experiences under several pseudonyms. That's the only reason why you see so few Perennial reports. I suspected the Cambodian sections of this forum to be so quiet because of the sad history of Cambodian sex with minors. Truth be told, that sector may exist and I will not go into that. But there is a much larger legal sector where girls have choices: 1 work in a restaurant as a server. No sex work involved. 2 work in a bar. It is totally up to them whether they go with a guest or not. In that respect the Cambodian bars give much more freedom than brothels in other places. Many bar girls live on the lady drinks and the food that guests sponsor. I wager they can live on 5 US $ earnings per day in central Pnomh Penh, meaning they need to earn merely 3 lady drinks per day. The country's per-capita GDP (in real exchangeable money) is less than 4 US $/ day, and that includes all the rich and all the companies! The Mekong brings fresh air, the climate is super. Local SIM card 12 US $ for 30 days and close to unlimited data (80 Gigabyte). Get it at the airport. Airport to city center takes 1 hour in worst traffic and 30 min in least traffic. They will charge 8 US $ at the airport and 5 US $ if you hire a tuk tuk in the city to go back to the airport. Another fun aspect was, that you can give your local cell phone number to any girl, also the restaurant server, and they'll be happy. If they are not interested, they will not call you, but smile at you if you come the next day again to their restaurant. If they like you, they will text you. All of them are 18+. Many of them are 18 and so tiny that you can play out any fantasy you may harbor in your brain without breaking any law anywhere. Keep that in mind before you make bad choices. I would love to meet be. In December, but am tied up in another part of the world. Thanks for the challenge.Without doubt you come across as a well read, well traveled gent. And your writings do have that rare literary quality as pointed out by a couple of other BMs. However, I must remind you that this is a sex forum. People visit this site to learn about places to go to and things to do from a singular perspective. Not to ponder over Faust or debate over Marx or critique Hugo.

So my humble request to you again is to contribute in a way that is meaningful to other mongers. Like this one here definitely has some value, when prices and being shared, strategies to engage with civvies are discussed, etc.

Lastly, I was no challenging you to meet up. It was a simple invite to connect and trade stories. Well, maybe another time. This time I will be connecting on ground with 3 other BMs who also happen to be in PP around the same time.

YngMong
12-10-19, 18:29
Hello gents,

Anxiously awaiting my first visit to Phnom Penh in a few weeks in time. I have 10 days total allocated as part of a larger SE Asia trip. I am looking forward to give fellow members some great reportage. I would like to experience all the lovely action the city has to offer from FL's to Bar Girls. I have a pretty good list of places to visit for night time fun, but I was just wondering if there was any decent place for a massage with he option during the day to kill some time as I wait for the sun to set. Arriving second week of January and would be happy to buy a round or two if anyone wants to join me for some debauchery.

Blanquiceleste
12-11-19, 01:03
Hello gents,

Anxiously awaiting my first visit to Phnom Penh in a few weeks in time. I have 10 days total allocated as part of a larger SE Asia trip. I am looking forward to give fellow members some great reportage. I would like to experience all the lovely action the city has to offer from FL's to Bar Girls. I have a pretty good list of places to visit for night time fun, but I was just wondering if there was any decent place for a massage with he option during the day to kill some time as I wait for the sun to set. Arriving second week of January and would be happy to buy a round or two if anyone wants to join me for some debauchery.I think there are a few fishbowl type massage places. Massa 252 has been mentioned a few times, also LE Cyrcee. Quality is a subjective matter. Apart from that nearly every single massage place around the riverside will probably give you a HJ or a BJ for some extra cash. Its all YMMV.

Looking forward to the reports as promised.

SreyMun
12-11-19, 03:51
Hello gents,

Anxiously awaiting my first visit to Phnom Penh in a few weeks in time. I have 10 days total allocated as part of a larger SE Asia trip. I am looking forward to give fellow members some great reportage. I would like to experience all the lovely action the city has to offer from FL's to Bar Girls. I have a pretty good list of places to visit for night time fun, but I was just wondering if there was any decent place for a massage with he option during the day to kill some time as I wait for the sun to set. Arriving second week of January and would be happy to buy a round or two if anyone wants to join me for some debauchery.Avoid the 10.000 r / 3 $ massage places you'll seeeverywhere, they are aiming to exchange the 100's in your wallet for fakes. Other regular massage joints are OK but keep an eye on your wallet, or just bring some small cash.

RunMemphis
12-11-19, 04:27
Hello gents,

Anxiously awaiting my first visit to Phnom Penh in a few weeks in time. I have 10 days total allocated as part of a larger SE Asia trip. I am looking forward to give fellow members some great reportage. I would like to experience all the lovely action the city has to offer from FL's to Bar Girls. I have a pretty good list of places to visit for night time fun, but I was just wondering if there was any decent place for a massage with he option during the day to kill some time as I wait for the sun to set. Arriving second week of January and would be happy to buy a round or two if anyone wants to join me for some debauchery.I can't wait to hear about your trip and experiences! My trip is the same as you but 6 months behind you. Be safe, enjoy, and tell us all about it!

Danubius
12-11-19, 04:57
Any reliable info out there regarding the guest policies of the top tier hotels like Rosewood, Raffles, Sofitel etc. ? Couldn't find anything anywhere. Thanks in advance!

Sam Sanuk
12-11-19, 08:35
Any reliable info out there regarding the guest policies of the top tier hotels like Rosewood, Raffles, Sofitel etc. ? Couldn't find anything anywhere. Thanks in advance!Basically, "guest friendly" hotels are of three types: those which allow guests without any questions (other than maybe requiring a guest to leave ID at security or reception); those which only allow guests who are registered; those which allow a guest for an extra fee. If I have any question in my mind, I email the hotel directly and inquire if I can bring a guest to my room overnight without extra charge. I have always received a reply. 4 and 5 star hotels are usually pretty good at responding to inquires.

I don't have experience in Phnom Penh regarding 5 star properties. But I have personal knowledge of a few BKK hotels as a result of just asking directly and receiving a prompt response.

SS.

YngMong
12-11-19, 18:09
I think there are a few fishbowl type massage places. Massa 252 has been mentioned a few times, also LE Cyrcee. Quality is a subjective matter. Apart from that nearly every single massage place around the riverside will probably give you a HJ or a BJ for some extra cash. Its all YMMV.

Looking forward to the reports as promised.Thanks Blanquiceleste, I figured there would be no shortage of places offering such services. I will checkout 252 and definitely LE Cyrcee is on my list.

Cheers.

YngMong
12-11-19, 18:17
Avoid the 10.000 r / 3 $ massage places you'll seeeverywhere, they are aiming to exchange the 100's in your wallet for fakes. Other regular massage joints are OK but keep an eye on your wallet, or just bring some small cash.Thanks SreyMun, I saw that mentioned in forum. I will definitely be carrying only what I need and have and eye on it when possible. A little trick I learned is putting set amounts of cash ex $100 in the little change envelops you get from the bank and sealing them that way you can know if it's been tampered with don't have to pull out a whole wad of bills to take out a a few bills. Some extra bulk but a good measure of security.

YngMong
12-11-19, 18:21
I can't wait to hear about your trip and experiences! My trip is the same as you but 6 months behind you. Be safe, enjoy, and tell us all about it!RunMemphis I will make sure to get some good intel for you.

Perennial
12-11-19, 18:51
Reg. Massage places, befriending a tuk tuk driver is a good idea.

Tuk tuk drivers are notorious liars. They will drive you to a long distance venue to earn money. The karaoke bars in Cambodia are called KTV, just like in China. They are located on 118 street, there are many of them, open 10 am to 4 am the next day. 3 US $ per hour. Drink 1 US $. Dirt cheap. They have enough English language songs to impress your conquest. KTV really is fun to extend the time with your girl. The tuk tuk driver wanted to drive to a far away "romantic" KTV and flatly denied the existence of KTV on 118 street. Liar.

Never pay up front before seeing your girl or massagist. All guys asking for money up front are scammers. All.

The post on this forum that 104 street has better looking, younger girls I found inaccurate. Some shill for those bars posted it, I suppose.

The district between 104 and 138 street is discrete. No cameras. No hassle from the backbacker folks. No preaching by anybody. No do gooders. No me too nonsense. Good.

I went to Khmer boxing. In my case to CTN TV station, Cambodia television network. They produce the content right near their headquarters. 10 min by tuk tuk, 2 US $. Ask the hotel reception. They check their online TV guide. Be there at the time of the live broadcast. No cues, but plenty of spectators, food stands, the real deal. Great boxers, great athletes and a real show, even though this is a male sport. Plenty of brutality when the champs knock out the fair ground losers with their elbows. They weaken them and in the final round brutalize them. Exciting in a way I have not yet understood, but also inhumane and brute. It is not high culture like soccer or tennis. One remedy is to go see youth khmer boxing. Between 12 and 16 there are few knockouts. Thai boxing is on at least 4 days a week. Go for it with your conquest. You might get your and her face on Cambodian TV for a split second.

The bar district gets percolated by very poor, dark skin, sullied, peddling kids. They swarm in from the river to beg. The police ride 3-pickup-caravans through the bar district with, say, 15 men on the pickups. Speakers mounted on the pickups remind everyone that the district is 18+. The begging kids hide behind cars and are just as soon on the streets again as the caravan has left. They are a real nuisance.

Finally to my friend be. I understood your offer as an invitation. Challenge was poor wording on my part. I have never shared in person and cannot really get comfy with the wing man concept. For me the hunt is at least half the fun. Lots of experience. I have always had game with shy, inexperienced pretties in my life. Dunno why. I never give away my conquests' coordinates. I get asked and pm'ed a lot. I found that some very precise hints on this forum are posted by shills for the venues in question. I also found that many forum users get a kick out of the explicit descriptions of other mongers. I like the polymath approach of understanding the settings, the romantic approach how to attract or loosen up a love bird, but just as much the pornographic approach to explain how I make sure the little butterly perfectly understands what I need and that she goes about achieving that end. And that has earned me many reports of distinction awards. I love Vladimir Nabakov. I love The Doors, when Jim Morrison sings he doesn't know why he is attracted to girls. I love it when Sting sings „don't stand so close to me". I love David Hamilton and Marguerite Duras. Or Emmannuelle. The romantics, legal age of course. But I also love the explicit description and depiction of orgasmic bliss.

Finlayson
12-12-19, 04:04
Anyone around in PP during Christmas?

Does it affect much on bar activities there?

I will be around Dec 20-28.

WarmGun
12-13-19, 08:17
My week revolved around the stunning Loley, by far the prettiest love bird I saw in Pnomh Penh, 20 yo, 156 cm, 42 kg, shoe size 34, breast size 1, pristine body, no tattoo,1 naval piercing, earrings, light makeup, natural finger nails, a variety of wonderful white and black dresses, beautiful ballerinas, simply a perfect tight light brown body framed by an exquisite Khmer princessy face. 70 US $ damage for two hours, 105 US $ for 4 hours incl. 2 hours of Karaoke 2 days later, and then 60 US $ damage for 1. 5 h. Looks 10. Service 7. Wow factor 10. Will never forget.

Loley (name changed) is a soft spoken slender girl at a bar whose name I withhold, one of two top lookers there, both easily 10's, the other one being Aloo (name changed), 19 yo, 154 cm, 40 kg. Loley and Aloo sit outside to attract customers, who are often handed to other girls inside the bar. They wear nice dresses and flat shoes and look like perfect dating material were I 30-some years younger. Not a yota of vulgarity. English is very basic, but google translate works wonders. Both girls are in the league of Jane March who played the lover in the filmed version of Marguerite Duras' "L'amante". Highly recommended reading au l'Indochine.

I was able to take Loley three times to my hotel room, but Aloo refused. I was infatuated with Loley anyway and ended up spending much less than I budgeted on pussy, but a little more on girly drinks to keep the good times rolling with her band of not quite so doable friends. They all need moeny and there is a strong social bond among these love birds. You got to invite the uglies also to make everybody feel nice..I would strongly encourage you, to avoid believing anything that come out of a bar girl's mouth. These girls will tell you anything, to get away from giving you good service. Sob stories, kids waiting for them at home. Most constantly lie, about anything and everything.

To me it's totally mind boggling how folks accept this stuff. You rent a hoe and she gets away with giving you close to nothing for $50 to $70 and hour? No BJ or kissing because she's a delicate flower? What the heck? You picked her up in a brothel? What is happening to folks when they get to PP? They leave their minds at home?

And some of these guys are super happy with being scammed by these little thieves, amazing. Do no accept or support this kind of behavior please!

Perennial
12-13-19, 17:00
I would strongly encourage you, to avoid believing anything that come out of a bar girl's mouth.I love how lively the PP forum has become lately. That was the purpose. Your warning falls on fertile ground, WarmGun. I am aware of and sensitive to slight inconsistencies. But I will say this: First: All girls lie. Not only bar girls. Second: This is 2019. A ticket to the New York Patriots costs. North of 200 US $? So the price I paid for the entertainment I received was bargain bargain bargain. Third: Romantics and mutual confusion add to the fun. Fourth: Not meaning to boast, I am a ladies' man not only when mongering. I can still be wowed and be surprised about myself. The reaction I had to this stunner, despite limited service, was rather spectacular. Reliving on this forum is part of the fun. And fifth: If anybody finds this gem and will try to go about it differently, she will kindly tell him she does not go out with men. LOL. Thanks for the heads up. Great.

Perennial
12-13-19, 17:04
New York Giants, New England Patriots. No insult meant to the East Coast cognescenti.

Frankfurter
12-13-19, 17:13
The PP bar scene is fairly well covered here. A small additional piece of info of the inner workings is the fact that the more upscale bars have a well organized 'Class system's what the girls are concerned. There are classes ranging from A to the, A being a girl which isn't even present at the bar at most times. Customers who dress and smell nicely and, most importantly, have set up a confidence arrangement with the lady boss or owner, have A-Class girls call in for them, or delivered directly to the hotel. That ain't cheap, go figure. Be and lower class girls fulfill their duties as described in this forum, get customers spend on ladydrinks, and in most cases don't even go with them for ST.

Peter20
12-13-19, 17:37
Any reliable info out there regarding the guest policies of the top tier hotels like Rosewood, Raffles, Sofitel etc. ? Couldn't find anything anywhere. Thanks in advance!I usually stay in Sofitel PP. They fill in a registration form and the girl leave her ID at the desk. No fee to be paid.

Banana Boi
12-13-19, 17:49
Anyone around in PP during Christmas?

Does it affect much on bar activities there?

I will be around Dec 20-28.I haven't been myself but I know guys who have gone to PP from Dec. 26 til after New Year's and said it was great.


If anybody finds this gem and will try to go about it differently, she will kindly tell him she does not go out with men. LOL

Now that was funny.

Paolo99
12-13-19, 18:28
And fifth: If anybody finds this gem and will try to go about it differently, she will kindly tell him she does not go out with men. LOL. Thanks for the heads up. Great.How do you know?

You've sent a few of your friends to check her out?

Perennial
12-14-19, 02:16
How do you know? There are known known, known unknowns and unknown unknowns, as a former US secretary of defense liked to point out. Truth be told, I do not know. But I was there 8 nights and had the tiny skinny stunner a mere three of them. The other were good for recharging to the point where my wants turned to dire desperate needs. I simply saw how she handled dozens of guys who wanted to bed her but didn't. She is picky. She is not working in a brothel. She exercises her right to say no many times a day. Judging from her cell phone model she does not earn a high income. She does not have a bank account. She lives like most of these girls with many other girls in an apartment near by. All the money she has she carries with her or she gives it to her parents. Do I necessarily believe I was her second man? No. But I was her only one those eight nights. I see her facebook friends list. She is not brain dead promiscuous. Comments like Banana Boi's or even WarmGuns have a strand in them to which I do not agree. Sure the girls screw with our minds. But so do we with theirs. I spent 10 to 1000 times 50 US $ to influence outcomes with females on various occasions in life. So what a bargain to influence a reticent girl of stunning beauty (a known known) and intense tacit budding sexual lust (a known known) for a mere 50 to 100 US $. Her very pretty hands ended up deeply covered in my cum. My helpless lost thank you was answered by a genuine thank you form her. One lesson from this forum is that money is the best aphrodisiac (a known known). Another is that when you have set your sights on a willing true beauty, do not be shy to spend a little. Don't succumb to your stingy silly instincts when a truly memorable time can be head (a known known). And do not let misogyny or harsh judgement of your mates on this forum poison your contributions.

Blanquiceleste
12-14-19, 05:11
One lesson from this forum is that money is the best aphrodisiac (a known known). Another is that when you have set your sights on a willing true beauty, do not be shy to spend a little. Don't succumb to your stingy silly instincts when a truly memorable time can be head (a known known). And do not let misogyny or harsh judgement of your mates on this forum poison your contributions.Some very good musings here. I am with you on this. I still cannot understand how folks spend 1000's of $$ to get to Asia and then try and save on a $4 lady drink of complain when the tuk tuk guy asks for an extra $1. Or worse yet, walk away from a girl who they really wanted to go out with because she asked for $10 more than what they are willing to pay. And then rationalize it by saying well she wasn't that hot anyway. It is beyond me.


And fifth: If anybody finds this gem and will try to go about it differently, she will kindly tell him she does not go out with menBut P, one thing has to be said. There is no way to judge or conclude how that girl will react to a different monger's different approach or a different week. Unless you want to believe that for your own ego massage. Nothing wrong with it though.

Taiwan Laowai
12-14-19, 05:20
Anyone around in PP during Christmas?

Does it affect much on bar activities there?

I will be around Dec 20-28.I plan to be there during at least some of those dates.

Perennial
12-14-19, 07:37
Rhapsody, known, had. Sorry for the typos. Was too tired. I am sure some mates don't even like this correction. I love the many, many well written accounts on this forum. By the way, Christmas is a mere drive by in Pnomh Penh. Holy season does not mean low season in the red light district. Recall also that the Chinese and Japanese are the biggest customer group over there. For them Christmas is also drive-by. Go see the inner city temples at juletide. And watch a Steven Seagal movie. A little Buddhist spirituality is really cool and can be had with your conquest. Happy hunting.

CIMguy
12-14-19, 17:53
Anyone around in PP during Christmas?

Does it affect much on bar activities there?

I will be around Dec 20-28.I'll be there from 24-28. I'll be with some people from work and will need to be discrete, but I plan to find some spinner to give me pleasure.

MeatMan
12-14-19, 21:27
New York Giants, New England Patriots. No insult meant to the East Coast cognoscenti.Except one is a TRUE Dynasty!. P.S. Paying some floozy Khmer bargirl who's gonna give you all sorts of restrictions of "No, I don't do that" and, no, no aaaaaaand no?. To hell with her!. $70 for lackluster sex is laughable. I could give one flying fuck HOW she looks. If she doesn't deliver, cancel her and move on to the next!. Grow some balls, man!. White Knighting for pussy is a joke.