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I'm going on my third month back and I have nothing new to report. The bars are mostly just lady drink places anymore. I don't mind buying lady drinks if the girl is accommodating, but I'm certainly not going to waste my time and money to watch a girl drink. It's also true, but as it's been said, the girls start off asking over the top prices for short time. It gets frustrating! I'm thinking about moving to Thailand for a couple months just to have some fun because Cambodia is losing its thrill real fast.
Anyway, I'm headed down to street 172 right now and spend the afternoon in that area. I'll start off with a Khmer massage at my favorite massage place, Aurora (it's not really spelled that way) and then see what's up. I saw advertised on a message board about a new freelancer bar and hotel that's kind of across the street and I'll see what's up there. I check this site between stops daily. The name of the bar is floozies and apparently the girls aren't going to show up until around 7:00. I told the lady that I spoke to you that if I were going to wait until 7:00 I will go down to 136.Just curious. Did you get to Floozies and if so, what can you report, what were your impressions??
Thanks in adavance!!
Nice. Very clever and witty response. Who wants to cop a golden shower from two blokes not only on a different page, but reading two completely different books!!
Anyways. Back to PP for me in 4 weeks. Looking forward to some fun times with some field reports to follow!!
Buck fifty cans and 2:50 mee cha. How can you go wrong.. Oh yeah- padded bar tabs in dodgy girly bars.LOL. Ill keep my wits up!!
Thanks for the reports and the banter gents.
DingoD.If you are not coming here for another reason, I would change my reservation to BKK.
if you really thought this was a pissing content, why would you want to get in the middle of it? You might get wet.Good advice.
You might even take it yourself.
Mongering1
02-22-24, 03:14
I stayed in the room a couple times, but as far as freelancers I didn't see any at any time. Apparently the freelancers are able to get lady drinks there so it's a unique situation. I wouldn't go out of my way for this place as a venue for sure. The last time I stayed there the lady which was about a three, older chubby, quoted me $50 for an hour. I'm not completely sure if her status there since she was the one to clean my room. I didn't take her up on it obviously.
Just curious. Did you get to Floozies and if so, what can you report, what were your impressions??
Thanks in adavance!!
I stayed in the room a couple times, but as far as freelancers I didn't see any at any time. Apparently the freelancers are able to get lady drinks there so it's a unique situation. I wouldn't go out of my way for this place as a venue for sure. The last time I stayed there the lady which was about a three, older chubby, quoted me $50 for an hour. I'm not completely sure if her status there since she was the one to clean my room. I didn't take her up on it obviously.So she cleans the room and changes the sheets etc. AND THEN offers to contribute to soiling the sheets? Hahahaha-that's one way to keep yourself in a job!
I think I had seen the advertising for this pre opening perhaps in the same Facebook group? It's certainly sounds like something not to go out of your way for, but invariably I find myself down on 172 for one reason or another so if I see it and it looks worth dropping in for a beer or two I will check it out!
Thanks for the reply at Mongering1.
Cheers.
When reading here and hearing on youtube about PP barscene I hear that ST is 50 US dollars + 15 US dollars for the barfine. It seems like alot for Cambodia and what the average monthly salary is there. Is it really true? Or is it just that the women try 50 dollars but will accept 30 if you insist on paying 30? 30 dollars is 10% of an average monthly salary in PP.Price of prostitutes has nothing to do with "average monthly salary" in Cambodia or any other part of the world.
Does not have to be exactly what the local guys pay but we can not go in to an amount of money that is DOUBLE or more than what the local guys pay. You might be surprised that "local guys" routinely pay $100-200 or more for prostitutes. Especially in KTV. If you've ever been here you'll notice a very high number of luxury vehicles driven by "local guys. " What you won't see is many white guys driving them.
KrumeLurer
02-26-24, 22:06
You might be surprised that "local guys" routinely pay $100-200 or more for prostitutes. Especially in KTV. If you've ever been here you'll notice a very high number of luxury vehicles driven by "local guys. " What you won't see is many white guys driving them.You really think that most cambodians pay that? And that is the standard price? Almost a monthly salary? You are talking about the few few rich people in Cambodia.
You really think that most cambodians pay that? And that is the standard price? Almost a monthly salary? You are talking about the few few rich people in Cambodia.Most cambodians pay 10 bucks or 20 bucks for a quickie in a tin Chicken Shack on a stained mattress without air conditioning or shower. You don't get a blowjob either. The cambodians who can afford it will drop hundreds of dollars in ktvs. If you want to minimize your costs, go find yourself a tin Chicken Shack somewhere. If you're going to exploit, exploit hard I always say. I hear you can get it for five bucks down by what Phanom.
Philosophus
02-29-24, 00:07
When reading here and hearing on youtube about PP barscene I hear that ST is 50 US dollars + 15 US dollars for the barfine. It seems like alot for Cambodia and what the average monthly salary is there. Is it really true? Or is it just that the women try 50 dollars but will accept 30 if you insist on paying 30? 30 dollars is 10% of an average monthly salary in PP.
https://checkinprice.com/average-and-minimum-salary-in-phnom-penh-cambodia/
It does not seem to me that with so many girls sitting around that it should be hard to find any girl that is ok with 30 us dollars. It just seems very very strange that you should be turned down by an average looking girl (6/10) for 30 dollars in a country with little customers and low wages. Accroding to what I hear the local cambodian guys pays around 20 dollars.
Or is this reports about some guy wanting a really good looking girl and getting a price of 50 dollars for ST? Sure of she is 8+ then she will proberbly ask more.ST is uniformly quoted at 50 US $. When a Cambo girl says "LD only", "no boomboom", that is just a front. Some gals live on LD and will not go with you. But if you have game, patience and a little money. Most gals can be wooed in PP. After all, they are bored, they all like money, they like safety, health, discretion, money and romance. Let the mama san and the tuk tuk driver know what you need and good things will happen. Go out for dinner with her and ask her again to join you in your hotel room. When you pay 1000 US $ to fly there, why not use the charmof an additional 50 $ bill to make the young bird give in? The market in PP is not entirely efficient. In the tin shacks sometimes a gem can be found and wooed. It does not matter what the local guy pays, neither do national income averages matter. If you require top slim young talent, get the help of a tuk tuk driver and romance the lass you are after.
KinkiTourist
03-04-24, 17:34
Hello and welcome to the first of many of my field reports, and I start with my favorite city for it.
I've been to PP for a couple of months and now coming back, I'm loving it, great vibe, good English, and interesting creative mongering.
After coming from Thailand I was very surprised with the market prices for ST and LT here, but after some time I figured you could still get better deals here, with normal hot girls, mostly on Tinder, but also in the great city night life adventures.
From browsing the famous streets with bars I realized you need a lot of luck to come up with something, there are a lot of beautiful girls that besides drink and talk would do nothing with you and a big waste of time.
But sometimes you just sit and a unique girl would approach that you can spend a lot of time with. Just need to be strong and not buy LD to whoever asking because it can escalate very fast to buy 4 LD at a time.
My approach this time would be to scan all the bars, sit for beers in as many as I can to look for catches from the great sea of amazing beauties Thailand can only dream of. These girls are not as experienced and commerce savvy as the Thai girls and they are more emotionally involved which adds some fun to me at least.
5 $ Massage places are a one big scam, of course didn't let them take my stuff to the notorious locker, but still got scammed with a miserable hand job for 30 $ even without massage.
Sour Amara Spa on Riverside has many beautiful girls, I've spent some time there with few girls, all good massages for 10 - 11 $ , some are only doing only hand jobs, some more, generally prices as I understand are 20 handjob 30 BJ 40 FS.
Silk Route got some nice girls sometimes and an upside room you can use for a changing price, but again, the cute beautiful girls only talk and drink. They also have Karaoke sometimes. Very nice bar.
That's it, was enough to satisfy me and also give me appetite to come back, continue and explore, would love to to connect to co. Mongers in PP for to join forces and look for the golden chicks.
Hello and welcome to the first of many of my field reports, and I start with my favorite city for it.
I've been to PP for a couple of months and now coming back, I'm loving it, great vibe, good English, and interesting creative mongering.
After coming from Thailand I was very surprised with the market prices for ST and LT here, but after some time I figured you could still get better deals here, with normal hot girls, mostly on Tinder, but also in the great city night life adventures.
From browsing the famous streets with bars I realized you need a lot of luck to come up with something, there are a lot of beautiful girls that besides drink and talk would do nothing with you and a big waste of time.
But sometimes you just sit and a unique girl would approach that you can spend a lot of time with. Just need to be strong and not buy LD to whoever asking because it can escalate very fast to buy 4 LD at a time.
My approach this time would be to scan all the bars, sit for beers in as many as I can to look for catches from the great sea of amazing beauties Thailand can only dream of. These girls are not as experienced and commerce savvy as the Thai girls and they are more emotionally involved which adds some fun to me at least.
5 $ Massage places are a one big scam, of course didn't let them take my stuff to the notorious locker, but still got scammed with a miserable hand job for 30 $ even without massage.
Sour Amara Spa on Riverside has many beautiful girls, I've spent some time there with few girls, all good massages for 10 - 11 $ , some are only doing only hand jobs, some more, generally prices as I understand are 20 handjob 30 BJ 40 FS.
Silk Route got some nice girls sometimes and an upside room you can use for a changing price, but again, the cute beautiful girls only talk and drink. They also have Karaoke sometimes. Very nice bar.
That's it, was enough to satisfy me and also give me appetite to come back, continue and explore, would love to to connect to co. Mongers in PP for to join forces and look for the golden chicks.If you think Khmer girls in general are better looking than Thai girls I feel bad for you.
KinkiTourist
03-06-24, 02:55
If you think Khmer girls in general are better looking than Thai girls I feel bad for you.Feeling bad for me is a weird choice of words I guess. But I like natural unexperienced young girls which I find common and accessible, don't like the slutty and professional type. These girls are perfect, in Thailand most girls had some flaws to my taste in face or body.
Philosophus
03-06-24, 10:52
Feeling bad for me is a weird choice of words I guess. But I like natural unexperienced young girls which I find common and accessible, don't like the slutty and professional type. These girls are perfect, in Thailand most girls had some flaws to my taste in face or body.I agree with both of you. Generalizations muddy the water. There are cute, young Thai birds just as there are such Khmer birds. Cambo is poorer than Thai, so you find less food addiction, less Miss Piggy, less tattoo craze, less professional jaded sex workers. On average more amateur, more try and see, less reliable to get the average punter where he or she wants to go, but if you have game and are willing to sacrifice "service" for "vacation roamance", Cambo is rewarding.
I agree with both of you. Generalizations muddy the water. There are cute, young Thai birds just as there are such Khmer birds. Cambo is poorer than Thai, so you find less food addiction, less Miss Piggy, less tattoo craze, less professional jaded sex workers. On average more amateur, more try and see, less reliable to get the average punter where he or she wants to go, but if you have game and are willing to sacrifice "service" for "vacation roamance", Cambo is rewarding.Khmer girls age out fast and are usually thicker and more "natural" looking. I've smashed Khmer girls in the past but now I save my cash for monthly BKK runs.
KinkiTourist
03-07-24, 10:58
I agree with both of you. Generalizations muddy the water. There are cute, young Thai birds just as there are such Khmer birds. Cambo is poorer than Thai, so you find less food addiction, less Miss Piggy, less tattoo craze, less professional jaded sex workers. On average more amateur, more try and see, less reliable to get the average punter where he or she wants to go, but if you have game and are willing to sacrifice "service" for "vacation roamance", Cambo is rewarding.Well said, bottom line for me, after spending months in both countries. Like many other things, in Thailand I know what's waiting for me is comfort and fun. Girls who want purely my money or to be my exclusive GF.
In Cambo, what's waiting for me is cute young normal girls, students and such, who like to have fun, going out, and have amazing sex and fun while I support them, not much for me but they have to work a week for it.
In Thailand I can schedule with 3 girls and neither will show up as they might have got better offers, In Cambo, Girls reach out to me and then I pay less and they even stay the night.
In Thailand for every hot chick I'm competing with many other men while in Cambo the hot girls are competing for me.
So maybe not as much comfort but much more exciting.
And yes the girls are much hotter, In Thailand from 50 girls you see 2-3 hot ones, In PP you only need only around 10 for that.
Well said, bottom line for me, after spending months in both countries. Like many other things, in Thailand I know what's waiting for me is comfort and fun. Girls who want purely my money or to be my exclusive GF.
In Cambo, what's waiting for me is cute young normal girls, students and such, who like to have fun, going out, and have amazing sex and fun while I support them, not much for me but they have to work a week for it.
In Thailand I can schedule with 3 girls and neither will show up as they might have got better offers, In Cambo, Girls reach out to me and then I pay less and they even stay the night.
In Thailand for every hot chick I'm competing with many other men while in Cambo the hot girls are competing for me.
So maybe not as much comfort but much more exciting.
And yes the girls are much hotter, In Thailand from 50 girls you see 2-3 hot ones, In PP you only need only around 10 for that.To each his own. No accounting for taste.
To each his own. No accounting for taste.More like no accounting for respect.
Why do you care what his preferences are and insist on belittling him? He's providing good reports with thoughtful reasoning.
More like no accounting for respect.
Why do you care what his preferences are and insist on belittling him? He's providing good reports with thoughtful reasoning.Agree I like the Phnom Penh and riverside.
Any one will be there to night?
More like no accounting for respect.
Why do you care what his preferences are and insist on belittling him? He's providing good reports with thoughtful reasoning.What are you the Forum police? Doesn't matter about the quality of his reports, the girls are ugly. I think if you surveyed a thousand random board members who have experience both in Cambodia and in Thailand as to where the better looking girls are, it sure as hell isn't going to be Cambodia. I don't particularly care about his preferences, I just don't want newcomers here to think that there walking into a Miss Universe pageant.
I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.
NRandom940
03-09-24, 04:24
I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.What's your method of getting the good ones in Cambodia?
HanoiMongers
03-09-24, 16:08
I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.I have been going to Cambodia for 15 years, I live in Vietnam and have traveled all over SEA and know the scenes in each country. PP is by far my favorite place ,2nd to Hanoi, PP is absolutely amazing and there are some really hot girls there. It blows Thailand out of the water. What happens inside the bars in PP does not happen in Thailand. I have shot so many loads inside the bars in PP, have had so many great girls over the years.
WintersLight
03-09-24, 22:30
I'm kind of with you, Kinki. I've spent a lot of time in Cambodia since the early '90's, including a 5-year work / study stint. I've lived even longer in Thailand. My Thai is good and my Khmer is reasonable. And while Bangkok still obviously has far more quantity and variety than PP, over the past few years I find myself enjoying PP more. The girls generally are just less spoiled and more authentic. Bangkok can feel brutally commercial by comparison. The main caveat is that many of the nicest Cambodian girls speak little or no English. It also takes longer to learn how to get the good ones. Bangkok is much more point-and-shoot, so for most people it's an easier recommendation.Thanks Betong, Nyezhov, HanoiM, and KinkiT. Only limited experience in PP and BKK (see my posts from a few weeks back), and taste / desire is entirely personal, but for me the main difference was the relative lack of plastic surgery, implants, and excessive tattoos in Cambodia compared to Thailand. Sure there's certainly plenty of young, un-modified women in Thailand who are genuine, but they tend to be overshadowed by so many ladies with bodies that look like lampposts with watermelons tied to the front and stickers stuck onto the back, LOL. The P4 P scene in Bangkok is so much easier and simpler to navigate overall, though, and the sheer # of options overshadow PP, and of course many mongers prefer that thin, enhanced look anyway, so it's easy to say BKK wins out overall in terms of visiting.
We could debate the pros / cons of the girls forever, though, and in PP I kind of avoided the busy riverside streets (130,136) that seemed to have more the more jaded girls. But along those streets, what are the bars that are the best to find friendlier girls that are open to ST / LT, and which are the ones where the girls are mainly just hostess types, ready to string you along and flirt while you buy them drinks, but then send you home alone while they go back to taking pictures of themselves and playing with filters on their phone? I know much of it just depends on personal connection, but if there are particular bars that the veterans here recommend (or recommend to avoid), it'd be good to hear.
Speaking of bars, what's up with White Cats / Blue Cats? I've been checking out their FB feed now and again, where a lot of their admittedly cute girls dance in front of the camera, but it seems like they're all just happy doing that. Sometimes they'll be customers in there for like 30-45 mins or longer, which seems about 25-40 mins too long if there's any hope of taking girls home.
Thanks all.
What's your method of getting the good ones in Cambodia?The main thing is just putting in time on the ground. Basically, like someone else said here, I seldom bother with the big flashy bars with dozens and dozens of girls out front looking all tarted up. I try to get to know the smaller places along St. 5 or around the corner on St. 118 and 110. Turnover is pretty rapid and when I go back they'll often introduce me to a new girl or two. But of course the good ones get snapped up quickly, often never to return. And as I say, many speak almost no English.
I have been going to Cambodia for 15 years, I live in Vietnam and have traveled all over SEA and know the scenes in each country. PP is by far my favorite place ,2nd to Hanoi, PP is absolutely amazing and there are some really hot girls there. It blows Thailand out of the water. What happens inside the bars in PP does not happen in Thailand. I have shot so many loads inside the bars in PP, have had so many great girls over the years.Any useful intel on Hanoi would be appreciated. I often go to HCM but have Viet partner & family in tow, which makes things very difficult. Been trying to get to DaNang & Nha Trang.
Didn't know the scene was so good in Hanoi or is it a case of a lot of groundwork to find the gems?
NI.
HanoiMongers
03-10-24, 13:17
Any useful intel on Hanoi would be appreciated. I often go to HCM but have Viet partner & family in tow, which makes things very difficult. Been trying to get to DaNang & Nha Trang.
Didn't know the scene was so good in Hanoi or is it a case of a lot of groundwork to find the gems?
NI.I spent a lot of time figuring out the scene. There are many different types of scenes in Ha Noi, a lot of underground shit going on. I have been here almost 11 years and I speak Vietnamese so that is a huge huge plus. I have some local Vietnamese friends where I have taken them to areas and they were blown away that I knew about this place, as they didn't. Ha Noi has the best talent I have ever seen, you just have to know where to go, who to deal with and how to navigate, it is nothing like the south at all. But the girls here are amazing, plus I bang a lot of normal girls for free.
I have been going to Cambodia for 15 years, I live in Vietnam and have traveled all over SEA and know the scenes in each country. PP is by far my favorite place ,2nd to Hanoi, PP is absolutely amazing and there are some really hot girls there. It blows Thailand out of the water. What happens inside the bars in PP does not happen in Thailand. I have shot so many loads inside the bars in PP, have had so many great girls over the years.I have been going to Bangkok for 30 years and I can assure you, if your fetish is public sex you can find it, although it was far more prevalent in the old days. What folks tend to ignore when they are trying to show how cool and on the cutting edge they are by licking their mongering chops about Jakarta, Hanoi, PP etc, is that in Bangkok, you are getting a world class city to monger in, with so much to do you won't be able to do it all. That shows in the number of tourists who flock there. Don't know many folks outside the backpacker crowd who say, oh lets go see the sights of Phnom Penh or, hey lets hang out in commie Hanoi.
But hey, folks go / live in cities other than Bangkok for a variety of reasons and if you are living in Hanoi or PP for whatever reason, you can navigate and take advantage of the mongering scene there, just like I do in BKK.
Again, the girls aren't hotter in PP, or Hanoi, they just suit your taste better. Keep in mind that in Cambodia, 90% of your bar girls are Khmer and will look Khmer. Meanwhile, over in Bangkok, your girls will be one of all the various ethnicities of Thailand, so if you like Khmer looks, you will find them or Lao, Hmong, Burmese, Chinese, Mon, Tai, Mien, Malay. Even Vietnamese: usually on Soi Nana. Got Thai gilrs in Hanoi?
The main thing is just putting in time on the ground. Basically, like someone else said here, I seldom bother with the big flashy bars with dozens and dozens of girls out front looking all tarted up. I try to get to know the smaller places along St. 5 or around the corner on St. 118 and 110. Turnover is pretty rapid and when I go back they'll often introduce me to a new girl or two. But of course the good ones get snapped up quickly, often never to return. And as I say, many speak almost no English.That's the problem: time on the ground. You will spend all your time in bars. That's fine if you live there, not so much as a tourist, although why anyone would go to PP as a tourist is beyond me. Meanwhile, I leave for the Siem Reap airport at noonish, land at DMK at 5, unpacked and showered by 7, and by 9:30 I've already eaten, hit the weed store and short timed. Tourist life, although I've got years of BKK under my belt. That's not what is going to happen for newbies to Cambo.
And while Nana is sleazy and BKK is dirty, IMHO PP is a shithole.
The bottom line for newbies: No dudes, the girls aren't hotter in PP or Hanoi. There is more of a variety and selection of girls in BKK. If ya don't like roboboobs or back tatts, there are tons of girls without them. Its far more civilized for newbies. It has better infrastructure. The hotels, dollar for dollar are nicer. The food is far far better. If you know the rules (which are discernible from this forum), its easy to get laid with minimal effort. Hell, if you have minimal standards, you can get your willy gobbled in BJ bars with no effort other than unzipping.
And for you lonely-hearts searching for the one and only in various dives, its easier to marry them in Thailand as you need govt permission in Cambo.
For you Indian guys: you will find less prejudice in Cambodia.
For you potential retirees: Here where it gets interesting. Cambodian rules: be 55 and give us $290, see you next year. Need I go over the rules in Thailand, with bank deposits, exit permits, mandatory reports, etc? So, if you want to take advantage of both countries, get a Cambodian visa and go back and forth as you please. You won't get hassled at the borders either. If you want to have two big cities to monger in, base yourself in PP. If you need mongering breaks, then go to Siem Reap or Battabang and chill in between sprees. Oh and after the first year, you get a free temple pass, an enormous value considering that it costs like $79 a week for the hoi polloi. I'm out there 3 x plus a week, only costs about $8 for the round trip tuk tuk.
BTW, For anyone that goes to Cambodia / PP without traveling up to Siem for Angkor: shame on you.
HanoiMongers
03-10-24, 17:38
I have been going to Bangkok for 30 years and I can assure you, if your fetish is public sex you can find it, although it was far more prevalent in the old days. What folks tend to ignore when they are trying to show how cool and on the cutting edge they are by licking their mongering chops about Jakarta, Hanoi, PP etc, is that in Bangkok, you are getting a world class city to monger in, with so much to do you won't be able to do it all. That shows in the number of tourists who flock there. Don't know many folks outside the backpacker crowd who say, oh lets go see the sights of Phnom Penh or, hey lets hang out in commie Hanoi.
But hey, folks go / live in cities other than Bangkok for a variety of reasons and if you are living in Hanoi or PP for whatever reason, you can navigate and take advantage of the mongering scene there, just like I do in BKK.
Again, the girls aren't hotter in PP, or Hanoi, they just suit your taste better. Keep in mind that in Cambodia, 90% of your bar girls are Khmer and will look Khmer. Meanwhile, over in Bangkok, your girls will be one of all the various ethnicities of Thailand, so if you like Khmer looks, you will find them or Lao, Hmong, Burmese, Chinese, Mon, Tai, Mien, Malay. Even Vietnamese: usually on Soi Nana. Got Thai gilrs in Hanoi?
That's the problem: time on the ground. You will spend all your time in bars. That's fine if you live there, not so much as a tourist, although why anyone would go to PP as a tourist is beyond me. Meanwhile, I leave for the Siem Reap airport at noonish, land at DMK at 5, unpacked and showered by 7, and by 9:30 I've already eaten, hit the weed store and short timed. Tourist life, although I've got years of BKK under my belt. That's not what is going to happen for newbies to Cambo.
And while Nana is sleazy and BKK is dirty, IMHO PP is a shithole.
BTW, For anyone that goes to Cambodia / PP without traveling up to Siem for Angkor: shame on you.That is your personal preference. Hanoi is by far better than Bangkok in every single way. I would never want to live in Thailand, I think Vietnam is the best place in the world, I prefer Hanoi and the north. There are some of the hottest girls in the world in Nam Dinh and Hai Phong. That is what makes us all different, we all have our own opinions. I have been to Thailand many times, but as far as the people, culture, travel, food, girls, you can't compare the two, Vietnam wins by a mile and I am very happy that it is not a comfortable scene for mongering here, I hope it is kept that way. It is a gem if you know what to do, but I will say speaking Vietnamese is essential to get into the deep depths of mongering.
Banana Boi
03-10-24, 19:12
My problem with PP is there is absolutely nothing to do until the bars open at night. I was always bored out of my mind. Le Cyrcee was the only thing I enjoyed opening late afternoon. Maybe it's changed now but when I last visited there wasn't even a shopping mall half the size of Terminal 21 in PP.
I'd only return there if a group of my friends all went at the same time and I would hang with them.
I spent a lot of time figuring out the scene. There are many different types of scenes in Ha Noi, a lot of underground shit going on. I have been here almost 11 years and I speak Vietnamese so that is a huge huge plus. I have some local Vietnamese friends where I have taken them to areas and they were blown away that I knew about this place, as they didn't. Ha Noi has the best talent I have ever seen, you just have to know where to go, who to deal with and how to navigate, it is nothing like the south at all. But the girls here are amazing, plus I bang a lot of normal girls for free.Yeah there is a HUGE difference in mongering opportunities for guys who regularly visit or live in a place vs those who pop in for 2/3 wks. Local Knowledge + speaking the language is a big plus.
I don't think I am the average type of monger and require modifications to the usual service. I find this difficult to communicate to the ladies who can't speak English.
Appreciate reply.
My problem with PP is there is absolutely nothing to do until the bars open at night. I was always bored out of my mind. Le Cyrcee was the only thing I enjoyed opening late afternoon. Maybe it's changed now but when I last visited there wasn't even a shopping mall half the size of Terminal 21 in PP.
I'd only return there if a group of my friends all went at the same time and I would hang with them.Yes this tends to be my bugbear when I travel too. I'm not a stay up to 3 am big drinker, sleep till 12, wake up eat, watch some TV, lay by the pool and then repeat type of guy. I'm a into bed by 12, body clock goes off at 7, to the gym and by 10 ish what are we going to do? The in bed by 12 is a major bummer as in many places the real fun starts after 12. I've started a list of things to occupy me incl going to movies, bowling, sight seeing, shopping, etc etc. That's why I love beach side locations. Snokelling, scuba, swim, paddle.
NI.
That is your personal preference. Hanoi is by far better than Bangkok in every single way. I would never want to live in Thailand, I think Vietnam is the best place in the world, I prefer Hanoi and the north. There are some of the hottest girls in the world in Nam Dinh and Hai Phong. That is what makes us all different, we all have our own opinions. I have been to Thailand many times, but as far as the people, culture, travel, food, girls, you can't compare the two, Vietnam wins by a mile and I am very happy that it is not a comfortable scene for mongering here, I hope it is kept that way. It is a gem if you know what to do, but I will say speaking Vietnamese is essential to get into the deep depths of mongering.LOL, and Hanoi is your personal preference. OK. But don't try to convince the world that Hanoi is better than BKK, the tourist numbers alone decry that ego boosting assertion.
As you say, you are happy that's Hanoi is not a comfortable mongering scene. Well it sure is in BKK. Winner.
That is your personal preference. Hanoi is by far better than Bangkok in every single way. I would never want to live in Thailand, I think Vietnam is the best place in the world, I prefer Hanoi and the north. There are some of the hottest girls in the world in Nam Dinh and Hai Phong. That is what makes us all different, we all have our own opinions. I have been to Thailand many times, but as far as the people, culture, travel, food, girls, you can't compare the two, Vietnam wins by a mile and I am very happy that it is not a comfortable scene for mongering here, I hope it is kept that way. It is a gem if you know what to do, but I will say speaking Vietnamese is essential to get into the deep depths of mongering.LOL, and Hanoi is your personal preference. OK. But don't try to convince the world that Hanoi is better than BKK, the tourist numbers alone decry that ego boosting assertion.
As you say, you are happy that's Hanoi is not a comfortable mongering scene. Well it sure is in BKK. Winner.
Regardless, this is a Cambodia forum. You going to make yourslef look sillier by telling folks PP is better than BKK.
HanoiMongers
03-11-24, 05:41
LOL, and Hanoi is your personal preference. OK. But don't try to convince the world that Hanoi is better than BKK, the tourist numbers alone decry that ego boosting assertion.
As you say, you are happy that's Hanoi is not a comfortable mongering scene. Well it sure is in BKK. Winner.Anyone I have taken to my spots in Hanoi and Nam Dinh, they could not believe it. Bangkok is a shitty place, keep going to BKK, you wouldn't know what to do in a city like Hanoi, you seem like a real idiot. BKK sucks.
Anyone I have taken to my spots in Hanoi and Nam Dinh, they could not believe it. Bangkok is a shitty place, keep going to BKK, you wouldn't know what to do in a city like Hanoi, you seem like a real idiot. BKK sucks.LOL. Validation from your friends. How scientific.
Bet you dollars to Donuts that you're one of the many expats in Vietnam and Cambodia who can't get into thailand. Seen a lot on the message boards, Thailand tossed you out out or won't let you in, and you spend your time bashing the place. Interesting that you're doing it on a Cambodian board. They must have really hurt your feelings a little fella, you're stuck in a second rate City while everyone else goes to Bangkok haha sucks to be you.
For those of you interested in Hanoi now that Mr expert has come over here, I suggest you read the first three to five pages of the Hanoi forum. Remember such comments from reputable posters such as no infrastructure, mercenary people, traffic, crappy hotels etc. Remember such comments from reputable posters talking about how bad the scene is there and how nasty and rude the people are. Absorb, with bated breath, Mr Hanoi mongers statement that he knows where to get sex from ugly girls for $8. I dare say he's probably a Vietnamese American with a little bit of national pride, low standards and a lot of ego.
Based on the comments I saw over there, I will venture to say that Phnom Penh is probably a superior mongering venue to hanoi.
Mind you, nothing affects me since I live in Siem Reap and Monger in Bangkok, quite successfully I may add. I guess some folks don't like the fact they can't find $8 ugly girls there.
HanoiMongers
03-13-24, 03:16
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Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.
Appreciate.
NI.
Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?Le Crycee and Pontoon are walkable, but not really near the riverside. Street 130 is on the northern edge. IMO, Street 136 is the heart of the hostess bar / riverside area. Note, since the Streets run perpendicular to the riverside, your hotel on Street 136 (or any other street) can be either next to the riverside, or fairly far away.
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.From your stated preferences, I would recommend Amanjaya Hotel. Check Agoda or https://www.amanjaya-suites-phnom-penh.com/.
Standard room is around $85. It is a 4 star hotel. Large rooms. Guest friendly. Short walk to Street 136. Faces the riverside. Very comfortable beds. Since there are no bars facing the hotel, it is fairly quiet. You get some traffic noise, but it isn't that bad; a lot better than before; it seems people do not honk as much as before.
There are a lot of good 3 star options on / near Street 136 at half the price as above. Lux Hotel has a great location on Street 136. The rooms in the front is probably noisy, but the rooms in the back are quiet. Guest friendly. But the problem is that the beds are not that good. There are numerous other 3 star hotels around that area that has comfortable beds.
Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.
Appreciate.
NI.Sun and Moon is a 4* hotel about 2 blocks from the Riverside IIRC. Excellent, large rooms, $10 joiner fees (at least it was years ago). Rooms were around $60. For a quiet room, though, you'll need to specifically ask for an interior room (not a winner in terms of the view, LOL).
The best feature of this hotel is an amazing roof pool, but according to a recent report you must now pay for a spa entrance to use it. Don't know how much. I'd probably pay for the pool if stayed there, it's that good.
Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night..I was very happy with the Lux 2 months ago, very large room at the back of the hotel, quiet good large bed, girlfriendly and less than 50 $.
Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.
Appreciate.
NI.It's not too late to change your plans.
I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.
It'll be for work but at least 95% of my time will be my own.
The problem in that I visited PP around 15 years ago (my pre-mongering days) and although I didn't dislike the city, there wasn't a whole lot to do and I feel like 5 weeks may be longer than I'd care to stay there. The only thing that's giving it some interest is the thought of banging some cheap young Khmer girls. But truth be told, I've no idea what the scene is like.
I like 18-21 year olds. Assuming I'm able to bring girls back to wherever I'm staying, is there a steady supply of girls in that age range? I'm assuming I'd need to find them in bars. What is the usual price for girls to stay all night and into the next morning?
Also, are there many massage parlours there these days?
I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.
It'll be for work but at least 95% of my time will be my own.
The problem in that I visited PP around 15 years ago (my pre-mongering days) and although I didn't dislike the city, there wasn't a whole lot to do and I feel like 5 weeks may be longer than I'd care to stay there. The only thing that's giving it some interest is the thought of banging some cheap young Khmer girls. But truth be told, I've no idea what the scene is like.
I like 18-21 year olds. Assuming I'm able to bring girls back to wherever I'm staying, is there a steady supply of girls in that age range? I'm assuming I'd need to find them in bars. What is the usual price for girls to stay all night and into the next morning?
Also, are there many massage parlours there these days?There hasn't been a lot of changes in the last 15 years except for the explosion of shopping malls. And and internet booking for local transportation via taxi or tuk tuk. Some of the old hangouts are gone but your weren't familiar with them in your pre-mongering days.
Main mongering venues are the hostess bars that have women / girls who are mostly 20-35 years old. Not a lot of 18-19, but you can find them. Bar fines are $10-$15; Overnight is always negotiable, but normal range is $50 and up. Most of the women shoot for $100. Unless you resemble Quasimoto, you can get acceptable for less.
Do not "assume" all hotels are guest friendly, though most are. Query the hotel directly via email. Some will allow outside guests, but charge a joiner fee.
Most massage joints are pretty lame compared to in Bangkok. Fishbowls, for instance, are relatively rare. The Street 63 massage joints full of Viets are a thing of the past.
SS.
Banana Boi
03-25-24, 01:31
I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.
All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?
I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.
It'll be for work but at least 95% of my time will be my own.
The problem in that I visited PP around 15 years ago (my pre-mongering days) and although I didn't dislike the city, there wasn't a whole lot to do and I feel like 5 weeks may be longer than I'd care to stay there. The only thing that's giving it some interest is the thought of banging some cheap young Khmer girls. But truth be told, I've no idea what the scene is like.
I like 18-21 year olds. Assuming I'm able to bring girls back to wherever I'm staying, is there a steady supply of girls in that age range? I'm assuming I'd need to find them in bars. What is the usual price for girls to stay all night and into the next morning?
Also, are there many massage parlours there these days?Jump on it. Seek and ye shall find. Its been awhile since I was there but in five weeks I'm sure you will find a special one or several. I had several in three days so you should be able to.
The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.
All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?I hear what you're saying but it's not that straightforward. Hobbying is undoubtedly better in PP but if I'm specifically wanting girls in their late teens or very early 20's, I'm not sure whether PP will be able to offer me enough to make it worthwhile. I'm in my early 40's and in my home city, while there's no mongering to be found, I can usually still manage to pull girls in their late 20's / early 30's without having to pay them. Most importantly, my home city offers a whole lot more than sex to keep me entertained.
I have gone back through this forum and I guess I've learned all I can about pricing. But I'm still uncertain about the availability of girls in my preferred age range. Most of the reports I've read (amongst the bickering) involve girls who are a little older. I'm still keen to learn whether I could feasibly bang a different 18/19 yo every second night. Of my stay.
It's all slightly academic at the moment since there's no guarantee that my work would put me up in a girl friendly hotel. I wouldn't have much say in that matter, although I could potentially request an airbnb over a hotel.
Does anyone know if Sun & Moon Urban still charge the $10 fee for joiners?
When are US dollars used and when is riel used? When I change money there should I just get US dollars??
Where is there a secure money changers near S & M?
How much to tip. Both girls and service staff / housekeeping.
Good English breakfast / English Pub food.
Appreciate.
4 FoW2.
P.S. Nyezhov. Have cut back to 5 days.
There hasn't been a lot of changes in the last 15 years except for the explosion of shopping malls. And and internet booking for local transportation via taxi or tuk tuk. Some of the old hangouts are gone but your weren't familiar with them in your pre-mongering days.
Main mongering venues are the hostess bars that have women / girls who are mostly 20-35 years old. Not a lot of 18-19, but you can find them. Bar fines are $10-$15; Overnight is always negotiable, but normal range is $50 and up. Most of the women shoot for $100. Unless you resemble Quasimoto, you can get acceptable for less.
Do not "assume" all hotels are guest friendly, though most are. Query the hotel directly via email. Some will allow outside guests, but charge a joiner fee.
Most massage joints are pretty lame compared to in Bangkok. Fishbowls, for instance, are relatively rare. The Street 63 massage joints full of Viets are a thing of the past.
SS.Thanks for the thorough reply.
I didn't expect much to have changed. Hence my reluctance to accept the offer. As much as I like the idea of banging one girl after another for five weeks, I'd need something else to occupy my time. For the sake of my bank balance aswell as my sanity. I'm just not sure PP offers enough because I'm not much interested in shopping malls.
Having said that, I'm still undecided. If there were plenty of younger girls readily available, I wouldn't hesitate. Personally, I just don't have much interest in paying to be with anyone over 25 unless they are incredible looking. And even the 22-25 year olds would need to be fresh faced to get my interest. Ideally, I only want 18-21 year olds. I'll admid that I'm probably too picky for my own good. Do 18/19 year olds use Tinder much?
As far as massage parlours go, I've never really liked the fish bowl types anyway. And I don't usually go to massage parlours for FS. It's mostly just to lie back and be pampered for an hour without expending any energy. Obviously a happy ending is necessary. And I'll usually seek parlours that offer prostate massages.
And after making enquiries, I'm fairly sure I'd be staying in an airbnb near Tuol Tompoung Market. Would the bar girls be ok with that or do they only go to nearby hotels?
Does anyone know if Sun & Moon Urban still charge the $10 fee for joiners?
When are US dollars used and when is riel used? When I change money there should I just get US dollars??
Where is there a secure money changers near S & M?
How much to tip. Both girls and service staff / housekeeping.
Good English breakfast / English Pub food.
Appreciate.
4 FoW2.
P.S. Nyezhov. Have cut back to 5 days.Sunday& moon, still the 10 usd, needed, and strict ID requirement policy.
Money exchange everywhere, 1 usd - 4050 are around, but day time. Recommend some riel in hand. Mostly 1000 riel, sometime when tuktuk, street food or shopping in tiny store, they will say no small changes trying to high price, even you give a 20 k bill.
Recommend Okay boutique Hotel. More friendly, khmer style decoration, but not enough place to parking cars. 4000 to tuktuk to bars riverside, Potoon. Breakfast there is ok. Nice sky bar and pool.
Most time I tip 500 or 1000 to service staff, as girls, it depends.
Tinder is a spp for booking 25-35 girls, most half or semi SW. And pics are always fake somewhat. Mostly 100 usd expected. I am a chinese guy in 50's.
Girl bar, 10-15 bar fine, 50-100. Some 18-19 girls not BJ. And most do not require condom if you do not ask to use.
Q: does anyone here has some ideas to find a regular local girls, long term, travel together, english spesking. ?
Q: does anyone here has some ideas to find a regular local girls, long term, travel together, english spesking?First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.
If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.
Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.
Sam Sanuk.
First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.
If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.
Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.
Sam Sanuk.Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.
First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.
If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.
Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.
Sam Sanuk.Thanks, Bro. Have been Coffee shops, nothing happened, maybe wrong location.
Philosophus
04-02-24, 20:08
The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.
All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?So true! Atta boy, Banana Boy. Also: don't make age a fetish. I consider myself picky, but a 25 yo stunner can be more memorable that 18 yo street meat. And Cambo has variety, just look for it.
Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.I think you came to your conclusion without considering the original poster would be in country for several weeks with a lot of free time. Indeed, he would not be visiting Cambodia to seek a GF here. As stated, his purpose would be for work, NOT for the purpose of seeking a GF. Aside from that, I have known (and currently know) quite a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English. They are a lot of fun and would be good companions--at least for a few weeks. LOL.
SS.
Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.The original poster clearly indicated that the purpose of being in Cambodia for several weeks was for work with a lot of free time. The purpose NOT being there to "seek a GF". I have known and do know a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English; they are a lot of fun and have helped me from time to time negotiate everything from prices to travel plans. And they are not gold-diggers.
Sam Sanuk.
The original poster clearly indicated that the purpose of being in Cambodia for several weeks was for work with a lot of free time. The purpose NOT being there to "seek a GF". I have known and do know a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English; they are a lot of fun and have helped me from time to time negotiate everything from prices to travel plans. And they are not gold-diggers.
Sam Sanuk.You do know what I am searching. It is boring, fucking a girl who come and leave after fucking. I just need more communicate.
Have to say that I am not a winner in seeking a GF in my own country. I like a girl submissive, and I like to have a sugar baby. Haha, but not a GF.
I like long term GFE, not a long term fuck. And it is nice to be with a girl who speak good english in phnom penh, yeah most time I stay weeks in Cambodia.
ManMountain
04-10-24, 01:59
Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.
I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.
For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.
Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.
I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.
I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.
I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.
They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.
To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.
Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?
Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?
Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.
Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.
I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.
For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.
Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.
I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.
I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.
I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.
They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.
To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.
Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?
Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?
Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.My mongering advice: go to Thailand once a month.
HG weed should be between $8-12 a g. I'm smoking basic Bangkok at $3. There is delivery there too.
There are no BJs in Cambodia.
Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.
I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.
For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.
Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.
I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.
I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.
I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.
They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.
To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.
Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?
Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?
Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.Sure, Thailand is better, thai girls are more understanding, not only boom boom and go. And easy to find one who speak english.
My mongering advice: go to Thailand once a month.
HG weed should be between $8-12 a g. I'm smoking basic Bangkok at $3. There is delivery there too.
There are no BJs in Cambodia.Could you please recommend someone in Bangkok for HG weed. Thank you.
Could you please recommend someone in Bangkok for HG weed. Thank you.I assume you mean down by the fun area, try the Dutch seed place near Thermae. If you're going to leave The Tourist district, you can go to happy cannabis in bang pho or Fat Buds in Ekkamai. If the Nepalese kid on the corner of soy Arab is back in operation, which depends on the cops, he has super quality weed, tell him that you were referred by the old American guy that lives in Cambodia.
WintersLight
05-29-24, 00:41
Poor Phnom Penh can't get much love in these forums, it seems. Last post was more than a month ago. I recently returned from a week in the city, my second long-term visit in 2024. (You can find my earlier report in January). While I spent five of the seven nights with my regular, a bargirl I had met in January and kept in touch with through WhatsApp, I did have time for a couple of other experiences. Here are some notes from the ground.
Regular bar streets of 136/130 still give the illusion of being busy, with lots of girls out front all shouting for your attention, little kids running around, vendors selling whatever, etc, but walk around a couple of times and you'll notice there aren't that many other customers on the street. Maybe they're all inside the bars already, but it does seems like a quiet time period, even for the low season. News reports indicate that the city has plans to upgrade the 136 area and turn it into a more high-class pedestrian area, with plans for higher-class shops and businesses, so it makes you wonder how long it will stay around?
136 and even 130 are still too busy for me, and while many of the girls do look young (in the 18--21 range that is, not underaged young), most didn't appeal that much to me. Instead I checked out the bars on 110,118, and even 104, which are a bit quieter. (Strangely the freelancers standing outside Oscar's On the Corner on 104 looked really good this time, but they may have also been staff for the new bar right underneath it, called Tinder.) A young woman sitting outside of Double the Bar on Street 110 finally caught my eye, for her somewhat decently sized breasts that were well displayed by her outfit. (They weren't double the's, that's for sure, and whatever they were disappeared in half once she took off her push-up bra, LOL). There were about five women out front, one of whom may have been a railthin LB, but I went into the bar with my new friend and sat down at a booth to have a drink. You can drink at the bar there, but they do have more private booths, and a pool table in the back. My new friend didn't speak much English, but we muddled through with Google Translate. I could tell she was shy, so I didn't press things much at first, but I soon put my arm around her, caressed her neck, and later put my other hand along her bare leg. After a bit we were kissing, and then after that I asked her if she was interested in going out with me. I think it's important to first see what the girl is like before asking this, and spend some time warming her up or chatting her up, as the answer may be different if you ask the question immediately after meeting her. But you don't have to buy her 3-4 drinks before doing this; sometimes it only takes one drink, but sometimes it might take two. I only buy two if I know the first drink has gone well. She shyly said, 'for you, $80. ' I laughed and said, 'Well I am flattered, but usually it is $45?" (I knew we'd meet in the middle, but wanted to start low, but not low enough that she'd be insulted). So she countered with, 'well, up to you,' and we agreed on $55 for two hours. I made sure to clarify that DFK and a few other things were on the menu for no surprise charges, she agreed.
We headed back to the hotel and things went well, lots of joking in the shower and some lengthy foreplay / kissing / DATY, though by the time FS started I probably took longer than she expected / wanted / was used to, as after about 10 mins of penetration she looked like she was in discomfort. I volunteered more lube but quickly finished, as she was saying she was "sick. " (Always good for your ego, to have a girl say how sick she suddenly is, haha). She may have meant her period had started, as there was a bit of blood on the sheets. Things then got rushed, as she wanted to leave, and I wasn't in the mood to keep her around. (Remember its in your best interest to delay coming if you want a longer session, as it's a steep slope from orgasm to shower to out the door.) I assumed she wanted to leave to get back to work, but maybe her period had started, or maybe she was ill, who knows, but it felt rushed. (It was about a 90 min session, though). Overall the girl was cute, she was only 22 so maybe inexperienced (it was her first month there, she said, but it's always every bargirls first month there, isn't it? But I wouldn't repeat, or even recommend Double the. There seemed to be no mamasan there (which to me seems important as it's a figurehead to guarantee some level of service), it felt more like an assortment of freelancers there than a working crew of ladies, and most of the other girls didn't seem that attractive. Oddly, two days later I was walking by, and she gave me the biggest smile and wave I've ever seen. Said she had been thinking of me, but I wasn't falling for it.
Another night I walked into the reincarnated Cyrcee's Secret Bar, way off the main drag towards the Central Market. Zero foot traffic there. I had actually stopped by to check out the bar around the corner, Sona Horny Secret Bar, as I had a good experience there in January, but this time it was pretty quiet. The mamasan did remember me though and we talked for a bit, and she even brought out one of the girls I had taken out last time (the less attractive one, alas). Walking by Cyrcee's, though, it started pouring rain, and I paused to fist-bump and joke with a little Blasian kid out front, and then talk with who I thought was his mom or the mamasan, but who turned out to be a bargirl. As the rain wasn't stopping, I went inside to have a drink with her. She was mid-30's (I know, I know), and with two VERY young looking, very cute girls of 18, one of whom was the bartender / cashier. I figured they were just for display and turns out I was right, as mid-30's lady gave me a full rundown on the system of most bars in the city. Turns out that most bars offer up some "originals," 18-year-old eye-candy virgins, to draw the punters in and get their hopes up. The virgins continue to just look at their phones while the guys buy them drinks, offer their virginal states up for an outrageous price, and then when they still turn the customers down, the older ladies in the room sweep in to snare the men. She had previously worked at Ostro on 136, and noted that most of the 136 bars operated on that principle.
Anyway, she was fun to talk with and spoke excellent English, and in the soft light of the bar started looking pretty nice, especially as it was my last night in PP. (My regular had gone down to Kampot for a friend's birthday). Same courtship idea: one drink, some light caressing and heavy flattery, and then the question. She offered $60, I countered with $40, and she agreed to that, though I did say that I'd tip well if she was nice to me. As it was her first month at the bar (LOL, again? What a coincidence! And I didn't want to go to my hotel (too far), she had to ask the bartender / cashier where the shorttime hotel was. It turned out to be on the same street as the one I had gone to in January with the SoNa Horny girls, so I just took her there myself. We had a very nice three hours there, for $40, plus $8 hotel, $10 drinks, and $10 barfine.
With my regular girl, she'd either come over to meet me at my hotel around midnight and stay until 5 am (when she would turn into a pumpkin, or have to get home to facetime her mom, or help her little brother wake up for school, or some other excuse), or she'd come over even earlier and we'd have dinner together somewhere nice, or, twice, I even went over to her bar to pick her up. This was mainly for me to pay respects to her mama-san, buy some drinks for them, and be polite, so that the mama-san wouldn't mind that I was taking her best money-making girl out of the bar early every night. Cambodians, even bargirls, seem to really be into the collective and into treating coworkers like family, so if you make an effort to understand that, and buy a couple of $5 drinks for your lady's friends and bosses, it will pay off for you very well in the long run. Costs for her were $50 for a 4-6 hour session, and sometimes a $15 barfine, and once or twice some drinks of about $12-$20. (Out of five evenings with her, I paid the barfine just twice). Having a regular was very nice, BTW, a guarantee that you'd have a good solid connection with someone, an evening that would always work out well, etc.
All told, Phnom Penh is a rewarding spot if you have the patience to play the bargirl game: don't storm in there hoping to pull a girl out immediately, but expect to spend a bit of time sitting with them, be patient and polite, and especially polite to the mamasan, and you'll be fine. But if you're on drink #3 or 4, though, and haven't gotten any clearer with what's going to happen afterwards, then pull out. They'll be another girl, another bar, that will work. PP is also an evening game, as most bars only open at 4 pm or 6 pm, so it's not really an all-day kind of scene like Bangkok. Plastic surgery and tattoos aren't QUITE as prevalent, so if you like more natural girls it's an especially nice place. Cambodian attitudes (in general) remind me more of Filipinos than Vietnamese or Chinese or even Thai, that's for sure; super friendly and laid back, with a very easy-going vibe all round. Along the riverside you'll encounter the usual hustle culture, especially from the tuktuk drivers, but a 'no thank you (At te, orkun", Bong," usually chills them out.
Finally, I stayed mostly at the Tao Riverside, great rooms overlooking the river and a good location a couple of blocks from 136. But a bit awkward as it's a narrow entrance and you have to walk right by the front desk to get to the elevators, so staff will definitely see and meet everyone you're bringing in. Also, they seem to lock the door around 2 am, so you have to buzz the intercom and wake up the (always) sleeping guard to let you and your date in. He's usually less than enthused about being woken up, and may be a bit grumpy while checking your girl's ID. (They will just take a photo of it). This also means that if the girl is leaving from 2 am-6 am, they will then have to wake the guard up so he can let them out.
Philosophus
06-03-24, 20:29
Nice report. Well observed. Well written.
Exoticspirit
06-08-24, 00:54
I'll be coming as a first timer later this year and just booked at the Center Point hotel on 136 - hope it's a decent hotel that's girl friendly since I found it via a girl friendly hotel info website. I see that this country uses both their own currency as well as US $ and that most rates quoted are usually in US $. Is there a reason for this? Can the girls and bars quote in their own currency?
It is a lot easier to pay girls, bars and hotels with dollars, as they amount of riels corresponding will be quite high. Riels are good to pay drinks, tuktuks and tips.
ThatGuy101
06-09-24, 11:07
I'll be coming as a first timer later this year and just booked at the Center Point hotel on 136 - hope it's a decent hotel that's girl friendly since I found it via a girl friendly hotel info website. I see that this country uses both their own currency as well as US $ and that most rates quoted are usually in US $. Is there a reason for this? Can the girls and bars quote in their own currency?What's the hotel names? I'm thinking of coming her instead of Philippines. The tread saying it's dead and Manila chicks want 200+LOL but bro tip I learned early on is never ever talk in USD. Your in their country learn the conversion rates, or at google it for a rough estimate. If you talk usd price they'll know your a first timer and get quoted way higher I learned that in the DR threads if they quote you high than laugh it off and say ohh it's not my first time here ( she will know right away you know the game even if u dont dont mess it up for everyone else ) some new timers paying 5500 peso ( DR) that's 100 usd ( shell say oh 5500 peso is only 100 usd.. id respond.. no I'm Canadian that's 135 $ Canadian thats to high im okay.. what I'll pay is 15-2500 pesos which is 45-70 CAD ( normal rate they will try their luck to get u for higher if ur a first timer or weekend warrior ) just say it's not my first time I don't talk usd we're in Dominican ( this case Cambodia ) I talk pesos ( or whatever country our in) and they say oh okay yes I'll take it with little negation from ur price which was already cut in half but if ur talking usd ahaha good luck to you!! ( already know this guy never been here hes new to the game hes talking usd easy money ) when i high my price in pesos after they try the usd game on me and I say nah not my first time here im good. They respond okay 50-60 ( 2000 pesos ish )where's your hotel?? Never ever talk usd in a country that's main currency is something else not my fault last sucker paid in usd. Talk currency in the country your in. If you get a high price laugh it off sip your beer LOL look at other girls and watch her tone change and watch her be on you ( she doesnt love you she loves ur wallet simple ) that little trick I use shows her u tried to rip me off I didnt fall for it ill go for a different girl these girls can read body language easily ( well it is there job to be fair but dont be cheap but dont over pay and mess up the spot for the regulars ) Play it cool don't look desperate you got the cash you got the options you don't need to fight for her if you miss oh well there's 100 others just look around after you enjoy your beer ahaha.
Thats why I stopped with DR going to Asia same chick u could have for 50-60 now wants 100+! All these new guys coming in paying the ugly chicks more now the cute girls want double I love sharing info with new guys and have when people dont than complain prices got raised ahaha wonder why? Met people on my stay from 20-50 year old talking usd paying double the rates I told them cut that shit out and only talk pesos they were skeptic but they tried it which they thought was low but they normal prices we were all paying they were so happy with next few days we all shared beers throughout the days each of them thanked me for the info which I had no problem with it helps us all in the long run
Exoticspirit
06-09-24, 12:52
Talk currency in the country your in. This is an interesting tip and kind of makes sense. I'll be ready to negotiate in both currencies if needed then. By the way I actually tried this similar strategy while in Panama recently where they use US $ as their main currency but most of the working girls were from Colombia. Since I had both US $ and Colombian currency on me from a stay in Colombia just a week prior, I asked the girls if they preferred US $ or Colombian pesos (assuming they want to bring pesos home with them). Interestingly all the Colombian girls in Panama said they preferred US $.
Exoticspirit
06-09-24, 12:55
It is a lot easier to pay girls, bars and hotels with dollars, as they amount of riels corresponding will be quite high. Riels are good to pay drinks, tuktuks and tips.Thanks, this makes sense for bigger cost items like hotels and girls for US $ payments. For the tuk tuks, do we know if ride fares are cheaper through Grab / Pass or if the cash quotes from drivers are better? Also should I convert all my remaining Cambodian riels while still in Cambodia before boarding my outbound flight? I'm flying out to Thailand next after Cambodia and wondering if the money changers in Thailand will take riels?
ThatGuy101
06-10-24, 09:38
This is an interesting tip and kind of makes sense. I'll be ready to negotiate in both currencies if needed then. By the way I actually tried this similar strategy while in Panama recently where they use US $ as their main currency but most of the working girls were from Colombia. Since I had both US $ and Colombian currency on me from a stay in Colombia just a week prior, I asked the girls if they preferred US $ or Colombian pesos (assuming they want to bring pesos home with them). Interestingly all the Colombian girls in Panama said they preferred US $.I learned this the hard way if they want usd they can get higher rates for the usd from local spots ( Conversion rates ) they know than you will ever get of course they want your USD! But you're paying higher! I went to DR 8 years straight (beside covid only one year break ahahah got the jab fuck it I want to fuck me some latinos now regret the jab but I was young stupid pussy on my mind) but yea 2022 planned 3 trips there 30 days each a lot of them regulars and got to know me by the second trip opened up (no I never buy the bullshit ohh send me money when you're home) fuck no you can provide a service for the money I ain't giving you shit I got my own problems back home ahahah (not that rude but they get the point) never ever had a chick message me for money because they know I know the same and whenever I land they see my WhatsApp stories hey your back? Let's meet! While some simp might be send cash ahaha sucks brooo you got. GOT. Man I am just sharing my own experience from my own experience and what I had to learn the hard way I love this website it started my journey hell I lost my virginity because of this site wild night wild story never ever forgot it always grateful but let's say you talk usd to a street vendor or or the beach guy you think you going to get a fair price? LOL cmon use the same common sense youd use for them for the girls yea they are good at their jobs but it's our job to be one step ahead of them. I have paid usd ( I never tell them this ) but I always always negotiate in their currency than I say ohh okay thats X amount of usd correct they say yes than before I do the deed thats the price that ( peso etc price =( that to usd right ? they yes thats right pay them that in usd or pesos ( never say negotiate usd before than ur good.. but if your charge in usd youre seen as a first timer and will be taken for a ride ( higher prices ) good luck ! Safe monger hopefully my last 2 drunk reports helps someone much love from Canada boys!!
I do wanna add to to it in Colombia DR nickels dimes matter not to us but your in third world country they will take back to a spot they know to get few extra dollars it’s 3rd world of course the want usd when their currencies are worth shit
Exoticspirit
06-10-24, 16:46
What's the hotel names? Actually I made a mistake in the hotel name I booked as I've been booking so many for my trip. I booked at the Point Boutique hotel in PP on 130. Anybody here stayed there?
Banana Boi
06-10-24, 18:40
Actually I made a mistake in the hotel name I booked as I've been booking so many for my trip. I booked at the Point Boutique hotel in PP on 130. Anybody here stayed there?I don't know what your budget is and what your standards for cleanliness are but all I will say is you basically get what you pay for in PP hotels. If you can afford nicer stay somewhere nicer. It's like your buddy saying why don't we stay at Yorkville and you reply nah I'm cheaping out and staying beside Filmore's.
WintersLight
06-10-24, 20:03
Actually I made a mistake in the hotel name I booked as I've been booking so many for my trip. I booked at the Point Boutique hotel in PP on 130. Anybody here stayed there?I have not, but its rooftop bar, Juniper Gin Bar, is pretty nice and well-regarded. Has kind of a classy art-deco inspired bar and good views of the riverside and the city. You'll definitely be in the heart of the riverside bar action there, that's for sure; several bars within like fifty feet of you (Sweet Lady, Lucifer, Golden Frog, Beautiful Bar, etc etc) and even more around the corner. Maybe some of the veterans here can chime in with any suggestions for the bars. It may be kind of loud there, since the whole block doesn't start up until 6 pm and then goes until 3 am.
Watch Tower
06-12-24, 11:34
Thanks, this makes sense for bigger cost items like hotels and girls for US $ payments. For the tuk tuks, do we know if ride fares are cheaper through Grab / Pass or if the cash quotes from drivers are better? Also should I convert all my remaining Cambodian riels while still in Cambodia before boarding my outbound flight? I'm flying out to Thailand next after Cambodia and wondering if the money changers in Thailand will take riels?USD-Riel is pegged at 4150 so there should be no difference in price. Just do the math. If talking to a driver, you might bargain down a little versus the price on the app which deducts a commission to Grab, Move or whichever company.
And a little more on topic. Are there business cards with contact info? Where might these cards be found? In some countries they're slipped under the door.
Slightly off topic. Where are the nerds with glasses? Cafes near unis? Names? Rather give a civilian 20,50 or a 100 versus going to a bar. At night. In BJ, got lucky a few times at English Corner language exchanges. Found long termers there or they found me.
And back on topic. Are there any FREE local websites in PP with "personals"? Miss those days, it was easy, and free.
I learned this the hard way if they want usd they can get higher rates for the usd from local spots ( Conversion rates ) they know than you will ever get of course they want your USD! But you're paying higher!You can talk in USD without looking like a newcomer, all the girls will quote in USD anyway.
The only place I saw you're paying a bit higher by using USD was a restaurant for locals, where they quote in Riel and when they see a foreigner customer they show him the price in USD which has been converted on the average a bit higher (but you can still give them the amount in Riel if you've got them).
For the tuk tuks, do we know if ride fares are cheaper through Grab / Pass or if the cash quotes from drivers are better? Also should I convert all my remaining Cambodian riels while still in Cambodia before boarding my outbound flight? I'm flying out to Thailand next after Cambodia and wondering if the money changers in Thailand will take riels?Grab and pass will always be cheaper than the driver in the street.
Change your remaining Riels while you're still in Cambodia.
ThatGuy101
06-13-24, 11:17
You can talk in USD without looking like a newcomer, all the girls will quote in USD anyway.
The only place I saw you're paying a bit higher by using USD was a restaurant for locals, where they quote in Riel and when they see a foreigner customer they show him the price in USD which has been converted on the average a bit higher (but you can still give them the amount in Riel if you've got them).I won't front like I know what goes down im Cambodia because I don't ( talking my experience in DR) but in Dominican if you ever speak in usd first you will look like a new Comer only exceptions when I negotiate it in their currency than clarify that in usd but why talk in usd when your in a country that has a diffrrrnt currency? Even anywhere else if I girl talks in usd I'll shit that shit down and say no we're are (in this country I'll talk this price) it helped me a lot in DR by doing that but like I said I won't front I haven't been to Cambodia but I'll never talk usd up front if you have and that's worked for you well that's great for you but personal I won't ever do. Same reason why I wont negotiate taxis in usd or street food in usd etc ..
I’ll never say Paying in usd I'll clarify what it is in usd but never say I am until I got to
why talk in usd when your in a country that has a diffrrrnt currency?Cambodia use 2 currencies, not only Cambodian riel.
The good thing is you have the choice to use anyone of them. It's just more convenient to use USD for amount over 4000 riels, and use riel for under 4000 riels.
Everybody use both currencies except locals with little money.
Cambodia is not DR, no need to compare both countries.
Cambodia use 2 currencies, not only Cambodian riel.
The good thing is you have the choice to use anyone of them. It's just more convenient to use USD for amount over 4000 riels, and use riel for under 4000 riels.
Everybody use both currencies except locals with little money.
Cambodia is not DR, no need to compare both countries.I don't ever use USD anymore because I have a Cambodian Bank account and I don't do Cambodian Bar girls. Every few weeks I get $50 worth of 5000 reil notes, that covers rides, coffee, noodles, tips, etc.
ThatGuy101
06-14-24, 13:08
Cambodia use 2 currencies, not only Cambodian riel.
The good thing is you have the choice to use anyone of them. It's just more convenient to use USD for amount over 4000 riels, and use riel for under 4000 riels.
Everybody use both currencies except locals with little money.
Cambodia is not DR, no need to compare both countries.Yes obviously not Dr but great to know bro thanks for the report let's keep adding to the forums much love Canada All I'm saying is.. I don’t recommend using using Usd.
But every man to his own.
ThatGuy101
06-14-24, 13:14
You can talk in USD without looking like a newcomer, all the girls will quote in USD anyway.
The only place I saw you're paying a bit higher by using USD was a restaurant for locals, where they quote in Riel and when they see a foreigner customer they show him the price in USD which has been converted on the average a bit higher (but you can still give them the amount in Riel if you've got them).It's just a personal experience and what I saw in DR once you talked usd you were looked at as a ATM and don't know the game and get higher price but maybe it's different there I can't say as I won't lie I haven't been but my past experience in DR if you talked usd your gringo get the cash ahaha so I never talked North America currency we are in their country I'll talk their currency and negotiate theirs if you feel different that's cool bro I'm not here to fight or argue but to share what worked for me in other parts of the world if it works for you to talk usd there that's great and I won't tell you to change that but I won't talk usd from my experience.
It's just a personal experience and what I saw in DR once you talked usd you were looked at as a ATM and don't know the game and get higher price but maybe it's different there I can't say as I won't lie I haven't been but my past experience in DR if you talked usd your gringo get the cash ahaha so I never talked North America currency we are in their country I'll talk their currency and negotiate theirs if you feel different that's cool bro I'm not here to fight or argue but to share what worked for me in other parts of the world if it works for you to talk usd there that's great and I won't tell you to change that but I won't talk usd from my experience.I've been to PP.
Is your plan to negotiate in riel and then pay with USD?
Exoticspirit
06-14-24, 17:25
I've been to PP.
Is your plan to negotiate in riel and then pay with USD?I would be inclined to ask what prices are without referring to one currency or the other and see what they say. If they quote me in US $ then I'll ask what the rate is in riels. If the exchange rate is roughly factor of 4, then I'll go from there to see if there is any significant difference on what they quote me and if I have enough in either currencies, then I'll opt to pay the lower of course.
ThatGuy101
06-15-24, 10:51
I've been to PP.
Is your plan to negotiate in riel and then pay with USD?Ahaha nooo I was responding to a different report and telling them if all they had was usd talk the price in the local currency and then double confirm that's the amount in usd than you can pay it in usd but don't negotiate in usd to start with if they that's all they had my last drunk report didn't make sense but as long as you confirm. That's what it = to in usd than that's what you give them they have no problem With it (from my experience if I ever negotiate in a different currency they always want higher amount) hope it makes sense and I cleared it up.
Houston Player
06-15-24, 11:51
Ahaha nooo I was responding to a different report and telling them if all they had was usd talk the price in the local currency and then double confirm that's the amount in usd than you can pay it in usd but don't negotiate in usd to start with if they that's all they had my last drunk report didn't make sense but as long as you confirm. That's what it = to in usd than that's what you give them they have no problem With it (from my experience if I ever negotiate in a different currency they always want higher amount) hope it makes sense and I cleared it up.I've never had a girl in Phnom Penh ask for anything but USD. Low of $60ST and high of $100 LT. My first visit to PP was 6 years ago after moving to Bangkok so I'm sure others have received lower prices.
I've never had a girl in Phnom Penh ask for anything but USD. Low of $60ST and high of $100 LT. My first visit to PP was 6 years ago after moving to Bangkok so I'm sure others have received lower prices.I paid USD $50ST and US $100 LT last November. As stayed below, girls negotiate in USD.
Riel to USD has been virtually pegged for at least 10 years. The rate fluctuates depending on the time of the year from 4000 to 4100. Not a big difference. If you know where to go (like certain gold or phone shops in particular markets) you might get as much as 4110. Unless you're changing huge amounts, it doesn't matter. USD is still easy and good.
HanoiMongers
07-06-24, 04:37
I am here for two days. I went out last night, great time. Lots of people out last night watching the games too. Will head out tonight again. Anyone around?
I am here for two days. I went out last night, great time. Lots of people out last night watching the games too. Will head out tonight again. Anyone around?Tired of the fabulous scene in Hanoi LOL?
Hello guys,
I am going to Phnom Penh on upcoming week, it will be good if you seniors suggest good location / hotel to stay there which is good to find birds. .
Thanks in advance.
Hello guys,
I am going to Phnom Penh on upcoming week, it will be good if you seniors suggest good location / hotel to stay there which is good to find birds. .
Thanks in advance.Any of the hotels down in the area are OK, use Agoda or something.
Hello guys,
I am going to Phnom Penh on upcoming week, it will be good if you seniors suggest good location / hotel to stay there which is good to find birds. .
Thanks in advance.Best tip I ever got from an PP expat was the Lux Hotel on Street 136. In the heart of the action. Sun and Moon hotel is often also mentioned by mongers (also on Street 136). As I've said before, the Lux is at ground zero. Couldn't be more convenient unless there was a hostess bar in the lobby. As it is, it's about 80 feet from the closest bars. I think you might like it.
SS.
Philosophus
07-16-24, 16:41
When to travel? In the river bar district centered around 136 street, summer is considered low season and Northern hemisphere winter high (er) season. Summer temperatures are above 90F or 30 C, yet I find the summer just as enjoyable as the winter. Hotel rooms are air conditioned. The sun sets around 6 pm. When the rain falls, and fall it does, torrential rains, the temperatures drop, the air clears and the streets become clean. Driving in a tuktuk during these rainfalls is a spectacular experience. And afterwards all is cool and clean.
Hotel choice? I stayed at Lux Riverside every time I travelled. Why? One: I repeat patterns I have explored. My fault. Two: I like to be near 136 street and the river for easy access, Khmer food stalls, Western style open breakfast and dinner bars, sports bars and big screens, Karaoke and girly bars. Three: Lux Riverside is run by likeable Cambodians, English speaking clerks, ladies and gents, family oriented side conversations. Every room has a safe. Service technician is not allowed to enter unless you are in the room. Room service comes at any time of your choosing. Lux Riverside is professionally safe. This matters to me who works perennially on a number of laptops when I am not out exploring the scene. That said, Lux Riverside is jaded. I book a suite on the 8th floor to have window and terrace access. Other floors have rooms without windows or windows with a 3 ft view of a concrete wall. The hotel may have lost its shine to the many competitors who have been built around swimming pools with spectacular window views.
Why repeat to go to Cambodia? I enjoy the laid back variety PP offers. Some punters on this forum call it a trash can. It is, but it looks awesome at night after the rain, LED light etc. I have just a little understanding of Bangkok. PP does not have the crowds. It is one more flight away. It is not cheaper than Bangkok. The scene is a little younger and more pristine than in Bangkok. There are less choices not for the mongers but for the young girls, which makes it the more promising vacation location to me. Some punters say Bangkok is more easily accessible for the average monger. Maybe, cannot judge, but romance takes effort anywhere. Some mongers say there is not much to do in PP. That is nonsense. I go to Khmer box, to world class Karaoke, to world class food landscapes (Bassat lane e. G.). The day goes fast in PP.
Philosophus
07-16-24, 16:42
Korean complex? One punter on this forum complains that Korean mongers claim their stake by limiting access to certain KTV (Karaoke clubs). I can confirm that Korean KTV Sony (232 street near Monivong Blvd.) security rejects Caucasian looking guests. Tuktuk driver says they are afraid of Western journalists, maybe NGO, and maybe also of Western punters' competition. NGO play a minor role today, as underage depravity has been routed out by Khmer police. Preemption of Western competition is real, not only in PP, but there are so many other choices in PP. Also, each girl that does p4 p has an adventurous streak. I had a sterling experience in Shanghai with a 24 yo Viet stunner, a straight 10 for 250 US $ for 3 h, who never had been with a Westerner but liked the premiere. I wager, the girls serving Sony KTV also venture to other places to find clients.
Originals? Cambodians, I understand, call girls who sit in the bars and are not available for outcall originals. They tend to be younger (18 -19) and much prettier than the average bar girl. They are there to lure customers in. The phenomenon is real. Originals can be stunning and outshine the others. Mamasans in many bars repeat the call that they are available for 5 000 US $, and that they market off their self-declared virginity. I believe there is a market for this, but I do not know how liquid it is on the demand side. After all, there are many stunners available for outcall. But the mamasans I befriended tell the story with panache and conviction. There is empathy in the system. Mamasans often explain that the girls are dirt poor when they come to the big city. The girls decide for themselves which services they want to render and let mamasan know. And they can be wooed in some cases by money, patience, perseverance and discretion.
Prices? I am not a good negotiator. I refuse because negotiating has the tendency to deionize the sex in the air and the respectfulness of the situation. Then there is the margin consideration: 2 thousand plus US $ fixed cost to get and stay there. How much hurt can a 5 US $ bill lost in foregone negotiation exert? Safe statements on PP: LD 5 US $. Girl I find acceptable ST 50 US $ per hour. Market North of this figure exists at Nagaworld, but not sure how liquid the demand side is North of 50 US $ an hour.
Philosophus
07-16-24, 16:44
Day 1: Spent a full 25 US $ on two extended tuktuk trips. Tuktuk driver recorded my preferences (natural, petite, slim, mild mannered, 18 - 21) and is hunting for talent. Nice. That evening I was surprised how many good looking 19 – 23 yo were available in various parts of the city. Did not pick one, for I reconnected with a 24 yo super beauty later that night. 160 cm. 44 kg. Shoe size 35. Shapely legs and anything else on her. Breast 1. 5. Natural nails. Fully depilated. Dressed immaculately in a short black dress and sandals. Works as a hairdresser. Cannot connect with mortal men, too into herself and creating her own barriers, but a straight 10 in the looks department. She was finally able to relax in the room, no condom asked, yamyam and bumbum delivered. Really relaxed only when sitting with me and her (real) sister in the bar and had too much wine and beer. Creeping alcohol addiction of all too many bar girls. I refrain. My advice goes unheeded. As usual in life.
Day2: A very short, girly and slim waitress with an average face, earrings and a pristine shapely body otherwise approached me. Concise straight info and questions with sex in the air: Studies English at university, used to have an American boyfriend, maybe she was not good enough for him, she said, currently no boyfriend, whether I want to meet with her. Perfect. Dinner date set with a girl 30+ years my junior. She is 22. Unlikely to become a mongering experience is my hunch, and that is also good. Variety counts.
When to travel? In the river bar district centered around 136 street, summer is considered low season and Northern hemisphere winter high (er) season. Summer temperatures are above 90F or 30 C, yet I find the summer just as enjoyable as the winter. Hotel rooms are air conditioned. The sun sets around 6 pm. When the rain falls, and fall it does, torrential rains, the temperatures drop, the air clears and the streets become clean. Driving in a tuktuk during these rainfalls is a spectacular experience. And afterwards all is cool and clean.
Hotel choice? I stayed at Lux Riverside every time I travelled. Why? One: I repeat patterns I have explored. My fault. Two: I like to be near 136 street and the river for easy access, Khmer food stalls, Western style open breakfast and dinner bars, sports bars and big screens, Karaoke and girly bars. Three: Lux Riverside is run by likeable Cambodians, English speaking clerks, ladies and gents, family oriented side conversations. Every room has a safe. Service technician is not allowed to enter unless you are in the room. Room service comes at any time of your choosing. Lux Riverside is professionally safe. This matters to me who works perennially on a number of laptops when I am not out exploring the scene. That said, Lux Riverside is jaded. I book a suite on the 8th floor to have window and terrace access. Other floors have rooms without windows or windows with a 3 ft view of a concrete wall. The hotel may have lost its shine to the many competitors who have been built around swimming pools with spectacular window views.
Why repeat to go to Cambodia? I enjoy the laid back variety PP offers. Some punters on this forum call it a trash can. It is, but it looks awesome at night after the rain, LED light etc. I have just a little understanding of Bangkok. PP does not have the crowds. It is one more flight away. It is not cheaper than Bangkok. The scene is a little younger and more pristine than in Bangkok. There are less choices not for the mongers but for the young girls, which makes it the more promising vacation location to me. Some punters say Bangkok is more easily accessible for the average monger. Maybe, cannot judge, but romance takes effort anywhere. Some mongers say there is not much to do in PP. That is nonsense. I go to Khmer box, to world class Karaoke, to world class food landscapes (Bassat lane e. G.). The day goes fast in PP.If as you say you only have a little understanding of Bangkok, how can you compare the two. As to your assertions, I can tell you that there are far more younger young ladies in Bangkok alone then probably in all of Cambodia. And if there is plenty to do and I'm paying, tell us, do you live there full time, which I can Define for you as 10 months plus a year?
Philosophus
07-19-24, 12:37
Day 3: Went out with super beauty and her sister for dinner. Expensive rooftop dinner meal 65 US $ for the three of us. It was fun and worth it. Met a bunch of Russians. Nice young folks, hard working, anti-war patriots. They work in software in Cambodia. Super beauty called me at midnight to come drink with her. Real purpose was I pick up the tab of her drinking with her sister. I declined, which was not received kindly. There is no such thing as mild addiction. Addicts lose sight of their priorities, lose their friends and then their livelihoods. So sad.
Day 4: All day work. New insight: When you book a hotel in PP, don't overvalue the "breakfast included" option. Hotel breakfast stops around 10:30 am. Working late on the laptop and nightly adventure walks mean I go to bed rather late. Breakfast at 13:00 in an open bar is reliably less than 10 US $ incl. Coffee and real orange juice. Keeps your day diet lighter. Old insight: You got to make it happen yourself. So after a very productive about of writing (working), I took a walk around the district at 2:30 am. Some bars closed, most still open. Two bar girls walk passed me to buy something in the convenience store. One just exactly my type. Slim. 5 ft petite. 20 yo but looking younger, short skirt, small everything like small feet and small hands, unvarnished nails, flip flops, big head framed by long black hair, very good English, smily personality, lovely face. I ask her if she wants to go with me or have a drink. I spend like 20 US $ in the bar for 5 drinks for me, her and her friends, who are also lovely and fresh, but I am hooked on her, the smallest frame. 15 US $ bar fine and 70 US $ for her for 3 h. 10 US $ for dry chicken soup, some nuts, some milk, some gift (cosmetics) from the convenience store and up to my apartment. Very nice 3 h hours until it is bright outside, shower and dinner and talk and she has given me all a girl can give a man. Very nice, deep and gooey sloppy blowjob and cif. The quintessential Cambo story of a mother whose husband left, mother taking two of three children and grandmother to PP. Daughter offers herself as 19 yo original to client. Some wealthy Chinese monger pays 2000 US $ and she takes the plunge. Experience not pleasant but also not terrible for her. Since then in a year's time she went with maybe 20 clients, she says, every other week, if she likes the man. In the bar, given her youth and physique, no question she is popular and a sure lady drink earner. She insists on condom and plays it safe. Says sometimes client is rough with her, sometimes does not pay. She calls the police and gets money with the help of police, but not the agreed sum. Police cases are the rare exception, she says, and adds, it was a Korean client. Shame on him. The Koreans I know are cool cool cool. The money she makes sustains the family of five, and her mom is fully aware of the source of her income. Her brother is in high school. She insists he graduate and go to college. She had to drop out of high school one year prior to graduation for lack of money. Her structured and nuanced English tells me she will make it allright.
Day 5: Dinner date with a 24 yo acquaintance, an English teacher. Cute slim and petite as a button, but non-sexual relationship, which I find more durable. I helped her in the past by gifting her a laptop computer and showing her how to write concisely. She represents the 95% of Cambo society who would never accept p4 p. Any Cambo monger should be keep this is mind. If you want a great, inexpensive dinner experience, go to Bassat Lane, 308 Norodom Blvd. You can also google Orkide headquarters, a real estate developer / builder, beautiful modern office building. Bassat Lane was recently developed and features 20 or more open air restaurants. You can have a light dinner for 2 for 15 US $, and will have trouble spending more than 40, I reckon.
HanoiMongers
07-19-24, 17:33
Tired of the fabulous scene in Hanoi LOL?Are you in Siem Reap? I am coming there and not that familiar with the scene, you around to buy you lunch?
When to travel? In the river bar district centered around 136 street, summer is considered low season and Northern hemisphere winter high (er) season. Summer temperatures are above 90F or 30 C, yet I find the summer just as enjoyable as the winter. Hotel rooms are air conditioned. The sun sets around 6 pm. When the rain falls, and fall it does, torrential rains, the temperatures drop, the air clears and the streets become clean. Driving in a tuktuk during these rainfalls is a spectacular experience. And afterwards all is cool and clean.
Hotel choice? I stayed at Lux Riverside every time I travelled. Why? One: I repeat patterns I have explored. My fault. Two: I like to be near 136 street and the river for easy access, Khmer food stalls, Western style open breakfast and dinner bars, sports bars and big screens, Karaoke and girly bars. Three: Lux Riverside is run by likeable Cambodians, English speaking clerks, ladies and gents, family oriented side conversations. Every room has a safe. Service technician is not allowed to enter unless you are in the room. Room service comes at any time of your choosing. Lux Riverside is professionally safe. This matters to me who works perennially on a number of laptops when I am not out exploring the scene. That said, Lux Riverside is jaded. I book a suite on the 8th floor to have window and terrace access. Other floors have rooms without windows or windows with a 3 ft view of a concrete wall. The hotel may have lost its shine to the many competitors who have been built around swimming pools with spectacular window views.
Why repeat to go to Cambodia? I enjoy the laid back variety PP offers. Some punters on this forum call it a trash can. It is, but it looks awesome at night after the rain, LED light etc. I have just a little understanding of Bangkok. PP does not have the crowds. It is one more flight away. It is not cheaper than Bangkok. The scene is a little younger and more pristine than in Bangkok. There are less choices not for the mongers but for the young girls, which makes it the more promising vacation location to me. Some punters say Bangkok is more easily accessible for the average monger. Maybe, cannot judge, but romance takes effort anywhere. Some mongers say there is not much to do in PP. That is nonsense. I go to Khmer box, to world class Karaoke, to world class food landscapes (Bassat lane e. G.). The day goes fast in PP.I've been to Phnom Peng. I agree with your report! Except I wouldn't say Bassat Lane is world class food.
Many young and beautiful girls. There's an elite level of.
Girls that are well dressed, stylish and probably educated. I would love to penetrate (haha!) that group of girls. But I think I need to speak Khymer.
And you're right about original girls holding out for a $5 K payout. I met one. About 18.
Philosophus
07-20-24, 06:20
I really cannot compare using the merits of my personal experience. Nyezhov is not wrong. But I have an image in mind: Thai 70 million people, Cambo 15 million people. US GDP/capita 65 000 US$/a. Thai GDP per capita 6 900 US $/a at PPP (purchasing power parity), Cambo 1800 US $/ a at PPP. Cambo junior elementary school English teacher's monthly salary 3 648 US$/a. Average age in US: 39 yo. Average age in Thai: 39 yo. Average age in Cambo: 27 yo. I can imagine Cambo getting boring for an expat. Poverty can be boring. But quotes by some punters on this thread like "nothing to do", "Khmer not interested in sex", "no BJ available" are misleading. Generalizations don't help and don't apply. Make it happen before Cambo catches up with Thai or Western vices.
Watch Tower
07-21-24, 06:53
Perfect. Dinner date set with a girl 30+ years my junior. She is 22. Unlikely to become a mongering experience is my hunch, and that is also good. Variety counts.A dinner date in my apartment I'll brag about. Then again, having a gal meet for coffee was kind of nice. The frap probably cost as much as a dinner.
Philosophus
07-21-24, 17:03
Day 9: Went to Khmer boxing, called Kun Khmer, at Town TV, Street 1711 B in Phnom Penh. I understand it is on every Sat and Sun starting at 3 pm. Tuktuk from river district takes 20 min, 2. 5 US $ per trip on pass app. Seating opens around 2 pm. TV ring can accommodate about 500 spectators – it was a full house. Very professional ring, refs, LED screens, air condition, music, lighting – just amazing how much private fight sports television has come along. The promotion company is called MAS fight. They produce live video content for big screen clients in Macao, Manila, Bangkok, Pattaya, Hongkong and many other places. There certainly is a Chinese investor on the board, but they announce bilingually in Khmer and English. Dell computers dominate the score board. A modern American-infused Asian entertainment venue. MAS fight sponsors farms of fighters in Cambodia, Thailand, China, Iran, . One of the main sponsors, maybe a co-owner, sat on the VIP terrace with his family and entourage. Handsome well dressed tough guy type, household name over here. I was the only Westerner in the arena, spotted and quickly ushered up to the VIP section with my two Cambo friends and placed on a couch, free of charge. We looked pretty sharp, my translator girl, my security and my modest me. The refs and fighters showed their allegiance to the tycoon, and the winning Cambodian fighters got up to 1500 US $ tips from the VIP terrace. The tycoon was sincerely impressed by my interest and enthusiasm for the sport and kept signaling his respect and appreciation, had us supplied with water, directed the fighters to us and shook our hands in the end. Nice interplay.
Watch Tower
07-21-24, 17:27
Day 9: Went to Khmer boxing, called Kun Khmer, at Town TV, Street 1711 B in Phnom Penh. I understand it is on every Sat and Sun starting at 3 pm. Tuktuk from river district takes 20 min, 2. 5 US $ per trip on pass app. Seating opens around 2 pm. TV ring can accommodate about 500 spectators it was a full house. Very professional ring, refs, LED screens, air condition, music, lighting just amazing how much private fight sports television has come along. The promotion company is called MAS fight. They produce live video content for big screen clients in Macao, Manila, Bangkok, Pattaya, Hongkong and many other places. There certainly is a Chinese investor on the board, but they announce bilingually in Khmer and English. Dell computers dominate the score board. A modern American-infused Asian entertainment venue. MAS fight sponsors farms of fighters in Cambodia, Thailand, China, Iran, . One of the main sponsors, maybe a co-owner, sat on the VIP terrace with his family and entourage. Handsome well dressed tough guy type, household name over here. I was the only Westerner in the arena, spotted and quickly ushered up to the VIP section with my two Cambo friends and placed on a couch, free of charge. We looked pretty sharp, my translator girl, my security and my modest me. The refs and fighters showed their allegiance to the tycoon, and the winning Cambodian fighters got up to 1500 US $ tips from the VIP terrace. The tycoon was sincerely impressed by my interest and enthusiasm for the sport and kept signaling his respect and appreciation, had us supplied with water, directed the fighters to us and shook our hands in the end. Nice interplay.Once did a judging for a tv talent show and BJ, some of my other buds were more active on the foreigner giving face circuit there.
Those days are almost gone there.
Good to hear they still live somewhat in PP.
Are you in Siem Reap? I am coming there and not that familiar with the scene, you around to buy you lunch?There is no scene in Siem Reap. There is weed, food and Temples.
There is no scene in Siem Reap. There is weed, food and Temples.Hmmmm. I know you live there and probably have a very good sense of availability. It is true that opportunities in SR that you find in Thailand (and even PP) don't come close. But I disagree that there is "no scene" in SR. I haven't been "on the hunt" there for several years, preferring the company of a local I've known for a long time and importing a former go go dancer from BKK last year. Years ago, there were a couple of "dance clubs" where a barang could score. One was the old branch of Martini across the river; the other was a small venue in the center of SR. My last "score" was from New Star KTV maybe 5 years ago. Thida, without my expressing interest, volunteered her phone number and name on a slip of paper which she discretely put in my hand. I have absolutely no idea if New Star has survived, but there were quite a few do-able chicks in there. No idea if they were all up for action.
SS.
Made a secret silent trip to Phnom Penh recently over the weekend while I was away to Singapore for work trip. Early evening around 7 ish was walking by lanes and stumbled upon this decent looking bar, Hostess sat outside yawned and looked disinterested, walked in place was high end, apparently it was much talked about on this forum mayazone. Cigar and whiskey lounge. Ordered a drink which was affordable but on a higher side compared to city standards. Only guest there with 2 hostesses and a female bartender. Offered a drink to both hostesses and they gladly accepted. Owner maya came in an hour later, beautiful I say end 40's or early 50's woman. Sat with her and had a very nice conversation about Cambodia, she is well travelled herself. Asked the hostess about her plans for the evening and she was available. Finished her shift and had a drink each at a nearby bar and then made it to my room. She was wild in bed, flat no tummy (1 kid popped out) decent breasts and an attitude to keep me happy. Looked like she didn't get any for months, no need for cover and I banged her for good 2-3 hours. Gave her taxi money and she promised to see me in the morning for the whole day. We met at breakfast and she gave me the bad news that she is red, but this did not stop her from hitting my room again. Delivered a non stop BBBJ, in between I tried her virgin ass but it was very small tight and she was scared to death. Promised me for next time and keeps messaging me & wants me to come back. I agree with some punters, this city is slow and relaxed but is anything but Dull!
P.S. - try the hostesses at all bars / restaurants, I believe they are available.
Hmmmm. I know you live there and probably have a very good sense of availability. It is true that opportunities in SR that you find in Thailand (and even PP) don't come close. But I disagree that there is "no scene" in SR. I haven't been "on the hunt" there for several years, preferring the company of a local I've known for a long time and importing a former go go dancer from BKK last year. Years ago, there were a couple of "dance clubs" where a barang could score. One was the old branch of Martini across the river; the other was a small venue in the center of SR. My last "score" was from New Star KTV maybe 5 years ago. Thida, without my expressing interest, volunteered her phone number and name on a slip of paper which she discretely put in my hand. I have absolutely no idea if New Star has survived, but there were quite a few do-able chicks in there. No idea if they were all up for action.
SS.Dude before Wuflu the scene wasnt rocking, but when desperate you could find something, especially backpacker girls and a few quality freelancers. One of my top memories was a fab 25 year old freelancer that looked like a supermodel and who I taught how to Yamyam but once the plague arrived poof she was gone.
These days, freelancers are scarce and hideous. The large TVs are shut down the ones on Khmer Pub Street are dead. Loads of ugly trannys on tourist Pub Street. Pretty much all that's left are chicken shacks. Thats what the tourist gets in Siem: chicken shacks. $50 plus transport.
I'm lucky because I live there and can work locals (if I want). But f there is effort involved beyond pulling cash out of my wallet, Ill stick to Backpackers.
And just go to Bangkok, regardless. 7 hour trip $20.
But living 2 miles from the temples well compensates me for the lac of mongering.
Planning my first trip to Phnom Penh. Any tips or must do suggestions from those who have more experience that I have?
Planning my first trip to Phnom Penh. Any tips or must do suggestions from those who have more experience that I have?List the main topics of interest and how long you will be staying. If strictly interested in nightlife and mongering, there are tons of reports here. Also, a lot of info on YouTube.
SS.
Banana Boi
07-24-24, 18:54
Planning my first trip to Phnom Penh. Any tips or must do suggestions from those who have more experience that I have?I may not have been to PP for a while but I know many guys who have made PP their number 1 choice.
Hotel. Find a place in your budget range near or along the Riverside and 136 or 130. Lux riverside is a budget friendly favorite. If you want a much nicer place nearby you can PM me.
RLD. Main area is Street 136 to 104 and Riverside to Street 13. There is Le Cyrcee nearby and Pontoon disco, if still open, if you like the "freelancer" scene. Also, Darling Darling at the casino.
Biggest tip. If you see a girl you want to barfine make sure she does barfine before buying any drinks for her. She may be an "Original". Ie. Virgin. Yeah, right! Of course it's ok to buy cheap drinks and DFK, grope the girl.
Biggest tip 2 - if you pay a bill with $100 US bill make sure your change is not counterfeit. Lots of that going. Even if bill is legit make sure it's in pristine condition of no one will accept it. Needless to say, make sure your US bills are pristine too.
OohxTasty10
07-24-24, 21:54
I'm doing a SEA trip soon and was planning to stop in PP. Of course, I'm interested in mongering.
Anyone here want to provide best tips on where to go, how much things cost, etc?
How common is it for girls to do BBFS and allow cip?
I'm also interested in threesomes, how common is that?
I may not have been to PP for a while but I know many guys who have made PP their number 1 choice.
Hotel. Find a place in your budget range near or along the Riverside and 136 or 130. Lux riverside is a budget friendly favorite. If you want a much nicer place nearby you can PM me.
RLD. Main area is Street 136 to 104 and Riverside to Street 13. There is Le Cyrcee nearby and Pontoon disco, if still open, if you like the "freelancer" scene. Also, Darling Darling at the casino.
Biggest tip. If you see a girl you want to barfine make sure she does barfine before buying any drinks for her. She may be an "Original". Ie. Virgin. Yeah, right! Of course it's ok to buy cheap drinks and DFK, grope the girl.
Biggest tip 2 - if you pay a bill with $100 US bill make sure your change is not counterfeit. Lots of that going. Even if bill is legit make sure it's in pristine condition of no one will accept it. Needless to say, make sure your US bills are pristine too.Do not pay with 100's. Cyrecee is closed. Pontoon is closed. Darling is worthless.
I can't stand Phnom. Horrible place. Filthy too.
WintersLight
07-25-24, 18:40
Do not pay with 100's. Cyrecee is closed. Pontoon is closed. Darling is worthless.
I can't stand Phnom. Horrible place. Filthy too.As of 2024 May, Pontoon was still open. Definitely not long for this world as the entire block that it's on is a vast abandoned development site, all fenced up with signs advertising a promised Chinese-built future of luxury condos, but Pontoon is still hanging on, in all it's teeth-rattling bass soundsystem and beefy testosterone dudes on the dance floor. Still a smattering of free-lancers, especially during the Lady's Nights, which are most of the weekdays.
Cyrcee closed down, in its place is Sona Horny Secret Bar, which has much of the same strengths and weaknesses: mainly older bargirls (early to late 30's, a scattering of late 20's), no stunners, but who are very friendly and forward, and very quick to get down to business. You can tell they've been working the scene for awhile, but unlike many of the women in Thailand / Vietnam / etc they still seem friendly and unjaded.
I would recommend Sona to any first-timer in PP as it's a near-guarantee of success. You can figure out how the whole 'walk into bar, spend some time getting the woman a drink and talking a bit, negotiate, then head out the door' system that nearly every other bar uses. Women aren't the hottest but they are friendly and easy-going, and the short-time hotel nearby makes it convenient as well.
Cyrcee actually resurrected itself (or the name anyway) just around the corner from its old location; I walked by in 2024 May, ducked in to avoid a rainstorm, and talked to a 33-year-old barlady there, who I thought was the mamasan but was actually a worker. She was only one on duty besides an attractive young cashier and a very attractive 18-year-old 'original', who barely looked up from her phone. (As discussed in earlier posts, 'originals' are what they call virgins, there to lure customers in, but never really available for outcall unless you are willing to spend a very large amount of money). She looked like trouble to me anyway, so I didn't bother. Wound up taking the woman out to the same short-time hotel around the corner that the Sona staff uses.
Barfines in both Sona and New Cyrcee were $10-$15 depending on night / busy-ness of bar / etc. Shortime fees (which equates to about three hours, so long enough really) was $35-$50 there, but remember that those spots are outside the tourist zones, where fees may be higher (and the women prettier / younger, to be fair). Factor in 1-3 lady drinks (pretty much mandatory in PP) at about $3. 50-$5 each, then the short-term hotel of $8 for three hours, and it adds up.
I'm doing a SEA trip soon and was planning to stop in PP. Of course, I'm interested in mongering.
Anyone here want to provide best tips on where to go, how much things cost, etc?
How common is it for girls to do BBFS and allow cip?
I'm also interested in threesomes, how common is that?Threesomes were definitely available at Sona, on my first visit I wound up sitting with two women ("sisters" from Kampot, though the odds of them really being sisters are as high as one of them still really being in her 20's, LOL), and they were really pushing it. But a lot of Khmer girls are a little more shy, so I'd say it's not that common? I don't ask for BBFS / CIP but it's probably YMMV. Sex education is pretty low in Cambodia so a lot of the girls may not be too aware of the risks involved. For other tips, lots of info on here already. Riverside area has most of the bars. Street 136 has the biggest, blingiest, with many set up more as KTV-style catering to Chinese / Korean / Japanese tourists, with women who are more there to get the customers drinking. Girls get a percentage of every lady drink price they're bought, and often that's enough $$ for them. Bars along Street 130,118, 110 will have a higher percentage of women who will leave the bar with you.
Planning my first trip to Phnom Penh. Any tips or must do suggestions from those who have more experience that I have?I see you post in the Thai forums a lot, so my only other addition is that PP is nothing like Thailand. No massage spots, no gogo bars, no Thai Friendly, etc. Just the hostess bar scene which will probably be disappointing, as Nyezov notes, but it's rewarding if you have the time and don't mind talking to the women a bit first, getting to know them. A bit of kindness and friendship to the girls (even if its fake) goes a long way there, but most visitors don't have the patience for that. (And there will always be the girls who just want your $$, of course, but maybe not as much of a percentage as in Thailand?
If you're asking about non-P4 P suggestions, there's also Bassac Lane, where the international set goes to drink, flirt and vomit; lots of hipster bars, restaurants, etc, in a convenient walking-street kind of setup. Often local girls and guys there too. A few big malls if you're into that (nothing like BKK of course), and the riverside area can be pretty during sunset / sunrise. Everyone loves a good sunset cruise along the Mekong / Tonle Sap rivers, too.
WintersLight
07-25-24, 18:43
Do not pay with 100's. Cyrecee is closed. Pontoon is closed. Darling is worthless.
I can't stand Phnom. Horrible place. Filthy too.As of 2024 May, Pontoon was still open. Definitely not long for this world as the entire block that it's on is a vast abandoned development site, all fenced up with signs advertising a promised Chinese-built future of luxury condos, but it is still hanging on, in all it's teeth-rattling bass soundsystem and beefy testosterone dudes on the dance floor. Still a smattering of free-lancers, especially during the Lady's Nights, which are most of the weekdays.
Cyrcee closed down, in its place is Sona Horny Secret Bar, which has much of the same strengths and weaknesses: mainly older bargirls (early to late 30's, a scattering of late 20's), no stunners, but who are very friendly and forward, and very quick to get down to business. You can tell they've been working the scene for awhile, but unlike many of the women in Thailand / Vietnam / etc they still seem friendly and unjaded.
I would recommend Sona to any first-timer in PP as it's a near-guarantee of success. You can figure out how the whole 'walk into bar, spend some time getting the woman a drink and talking a bit, negotiate, then head out the door' system that nearly every other bar uses. Women aren't the hottest but they are friendly and easy-going, and the short-time hotel nearby makes it convenient as well.
Cyrcee actually resurrected itself (or the name anyway) just around the corner from its old location; I walked by in 2024 May, ducked in to avoid a rainstorm, and talked to a 33-year-old barlady there, who I thought was the mamasan but was actually a worker. She was only one on duty besides an attractive young cashier and a very attractive 18-year-old 'original', who barely looked up from her phone. (As discussed in earlier posts, 'originals' are what they call virgins, there to lure customers in, but never really available for outcall unless you are willing to spend a very large amount of money). She looked like trouble to me anyway, so I didn't bother. Wound up taking the woman out to the same short-time hotel around the corner that the Sona staff uses.
Barfines in both Sona and New Cyrcee were $10-$15 depending on night / busy-ness of bar / etc. Shortime fees (which equates to about three hours, so long enough really) was $35-$50 there, but remember that those spots are outside the tourist zones, where fees may be higher ($50-100 for short-time, but the women are usually prettier / younger, to be fair). Factor in 1-3 lady drinks (pretty much mandatory in PP) at about $3. 50-$5 each, then the short-term hotel of $8 for three hours, and it adds up.
I'm doing a SEA trip soon and was planning to stop in PP. Of course, I'm interested in mongering.
Anyone here want to provide best tips on where to go, how much things cost, etc?
How common is it for girls to do BBFS and allow cip?
I'm also interested in threesomes, how common is that?Threesomes were definitely available at Sona, on my first visit I wound up sitting with two women ("sisters" from Kampot, though the odds of them really being sisters are as high as one of them still really being in her 20's, LOL), and they were really pushing it. But a lot of Khmer girls are a little more shy, so I'd say it's not that common? I don't ask for BBFS / CIP but it's probably YMMV. Sex education is pretty low in Cambodia so a lot of the girls may not be too aware of the risks involved. For other tips, lots of info on here already. Riverside area has most of the bars. Street 136 has the biggest, blingiest, with many set up more as KTV-style catering to Chinese / Korean / Japanese tourists, with women who are more there to get the customers drinking. Girls get a percentage of every lady drink price they're bought, and often that's enough $$ for them. Bars along Street 130,118, 110 will have a higher percentage of women who will leave the bar with you.
Planning my first trip to Phnom Penh. Any tips or must do suggestions from those who have more experience that I have?I see you post in the Thai forums a lot, so my only other addition is that PP is nothing like Thailand. No massage spots, no gogo bars, no Thai Friendly, etc. Just the hostess bar scene which will probably be disappointing, as Nyezov notes, but it's rewarding if you have the time and don't mind talking to the women a bit first, getting to know them. A bit of kindness and friendship to the girls (even if its fake) goes a long way there, but most visitors don't have the patience for that. (And there will always be the girls who just want your $$, of course, but maybe not as much of a percentage as in Thailand?
If you're asking about non-P4 P suggestions, there's also Bassac Lane, where the international set goes to drink, flirt and vomit; lots of hipster bars, restaurants, etc, in a convenient walking-street kind of setup. Often local girls and guys there too. A few big malls if you're into that (nothing like BKK of course), and the riverside area can be pretty during sunset / sunrise. Everyone loves a good sunset cruise along the Mekong / Tonle Sap rivers, too.
Do not pay with 100's. Cyrecee is closed. Pontoon is closed. Darling is worthless.
I can't stand Phnom. Horrible place. Filthy too.Hi Mr Nye.
Have noticed your responses are quite negative on a number of topics so was wondering where you would suggest the best mongering lies? And why?
I'm not a big bar girls, big spender type of guy and 6-8 standard FL will do.
Appreciate.
Hi Mr Nye.
Have noticed your responses are quite negative on a number of topics so was wondering where you would suggest the best mongering lies? And why?
I'm not a big bar girls, big spender type of guy and 6-8 standard FL will do.
Appreciate.Unless you want to go to Rio, Bangkok.
Hi Mr Nye.
Have noticed your responses are quite negative on a number of topics so was wondering where you would suggest the best mongering lies? And why?
I'm not a big bar girls, big spender type of guy and 6-8 standard FL will do.
Appreciate.I don't know anyplace anywhere where you can get 6-8 quallity freelancers for the price of a 4-5. In PP, you might try a few of the large beer gardens, though there might be a language challenge. Often, the beer promotion girls can be wooed.
I went to such a place a few years ago with a couple of Khmer buddies and made a short video. If you are familiar with a Tawang Dang set up in Thailand, you'll know what I'm talking about. A combination variety dinner show / drinking venue open to all. Including mixed groups on dates. In PP, we had one of the servers sit with us for awhile. We were told we could have the girls come sit with us after their set on stage. There were some absolute 7-9's up there. I have no idea about guaranteed availability for take out or prices. I gathered that some will go and some will not.
SS.
Banana Boi
07-26-24, 03:54
Do not pay with 100's. Cyrecee is closed. Pontoon is closed. Darling is worthless.
I can't stand Phnom. Horrible place. Filthy too.I didn't realize Cyrcee Secret Bar in the new location closed down too.
Darling is worthless because the girls are ugly now or just too expensive? Imo it was one of the few places in PP years ago where you could find half decent looking girls but at double or triple the cost (ie. still cheap). Again, have not been to Darling for a long while.
Appreciate the responses. Will RTTF more deeply. Just being lazy. I value the opinions given. Thank you!
Philosophus
07-26-24, 06:18
Got to head home. It was another great trip. Lux Riverside recommended. You are in the center of things and get the feel, get the vibe, how it is done in PP. Hotel is safe, not seedy. Families also staying in the hotel. If you want window sight, got to check prior with reception not to be disappointed. Pontoon, Darling, Nana: Expensive and offputting. Forget them. For the well heeled who understands nuthin about PP. Keep in touch with mama sans. Instead of giving LD, give a 5 dollar bill. This doubles her take and you don't feed the alcohol addiction lurking everywhere over here. It is also worthwhile observing who leaves Lux. Some gems can be connected with on their way out. Sin city on 118 has young ones, but was not good to me. Too passive and untalented. Got to reckon that Cambo means analphabetism in some quarters. So when a young bird needs the read out loud function on her smart phone, she probably has a hard time reading. She will likely also be terrible at pleasing you. Girls love to go two on one with you in the room. I decline. Waste of money, less concentration on you than there should be. A mama san introduced me to a 20 why 157 40 kg spinner. Youth really does it. 60 US $ short time. Barfine 15, Was a good experience, but not stunning. I was lucky to pick up another stunner, though, 18 y, 145 cm, 37 kg, 1 month in pp. Shoes size 5 UK, 35 Euruope. Natural nails, no tattoo, big head, long hair cutie. English not bad. 80 US $ 2 h. Dedicated gal who liked the experience. I understand some mates on this forum could not connect with PP. Maybe BK is more accessible. But for me, who is not shy to spend a third of the trip budget on female company (rest is airfare and hotel), PP has been bringing up gems every time. I can relate to the statement that Khmer are prudish. But that does not pertain to every impressible young bird. What I do know is demographics, opportunity and lack thereof. From what I have seen, I am sure these are golden times in PP for the hobby.
Philosophus
07-26-24, 08:28
Supercutie came to meet again. Goes to English school every day. Salary of security and restaurant server is 170 US $ per month. She can make that in two ST stints. She will do allright.
Watch Tower
07-26-24, 09:38
Do not pay with 100's. Cyrecee is closed. Pontoon is closed. Darling is worthless.
I can't stand Phnom. Horrible place. Filthy too.50's are ok. 20's and 10's better. You don't like a place with a 4th grade graduate whose been dictator for 30 years? Wow.
On topic somewhat, the search function doesn't work for me so. Are there English Corners in PP? Or Expat / Internatons type meetups.
Prefer semi-pros who are smart and discreet.
Philosophus, hand off your supercutie to me. I'm good for 100 a month and unlimited baths.
Supercutie came to meet again. Goes to English school every day. Salary of security and restaurant server is 170 US $ per month. She can make that in two ST stints. She will do allright.Big thanks for sharing his current reporting. I'd welcome more. Actually, the "golden years" in PP were 20+ years ago when you could score cute freelance Viets for $10-$15 all night. .
SS.
Watch Tower
07-30-24, 10:22
Big thanks for sharing his current reporting. I'd welcome more. Actually, the "golden years" in PP were 20+ years ago when you could score cute freelance Viets for $10-$15 all night. .
SS.Yeah, a friend told me China was like that 20 years ago. $20 nights.
So in 2024, since I really don't like the idea of walking the streets.
With the expectation of paying somewhere between 30 and 100, in which of the girly bars would I be most likely to find a gal sitting in the corner reading a paper book? Or at least wearing glasses? Heh.
Yeah, a friend told me China was like that 20 years ago. $20 nights.
So in 2024, since I really don't like the idea of walking the streets.
With the expectation of paying somewhere between 30 and 100, in which of the girly bars would I be most likely to find a gal sitting in the corner reading a paper book? Or at least wearing glasses? Heh.I was curious about 2004's $20 present worth so I asked chatgpt. Its $30 today so yes, hobbying was cheaper 20 years ago.
Big thanks for sharing his current reporting. I'd welcome more. Actually, the "golden years" in PP were 20+ years ago when you could score cute freelance Viets for $10-$15 all night. .
SS.You mean cute 18 year olds that graduated from the K11 brothels they were trafficked to at age 12.
Watch Tower
08-02-24, 08:32
I was curious about 2004's $20 present worth so I asked chatgpt. Its $30 today so yes, hobbying was cheaper 20 years ago.I'm comparing $20 in 2004 in Asia to the $100 outcall HJ / BJ / $200 FS incall rates I was paying in the States back then, for semipros off craigslist.
Beijing rates were about $40 short time to $150 (for all night) about 10 years ago. Tantan, momo, thebeijinger. All free anon sites back then.
In Phnom Penh if there's a college gal semipro who can speak English; $100 for an overnight, $50 for repeats, seems more fair. Others here say <$200 a month is the average wage.
0 interest in the bar girls who do this as a job.
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In Phnom Penh if there's a college gal semipro who can speak English; $100 for an overnight, $50 for repeats, seems more fair. Others here say <$200 a month is the average wage.
0 interest in the bar girls who do this as a job.I would also prefer college semipro over bar girl. I've been once to PP. Scroll back a few pages to see my reports. I like PP.
How would you meet a college semipro? I tried FB. Friended many girls but only one replied to my message. There are a few on TF and Date in Asia.
Watch Tower
08-03-24, 07:27
I would also prefer college semipro over bar girl. I've been once to PP. Scroll back a few pages to see my reports. I like PP.
How would you meet a college semipro? I tried FB. Friended many girls but only one replied to my message. There are a few on TF and Date in Asia.Online's glory days are done.
It's a longshot but I've been going to http://nerdnightphnompenh.com/ a sort of ted talk gathering wth about 100 people at a bar. If a girl flirts with me at one of these, she's done for. Heh.
I'd go to university events if there are any, maybe at American University, or amcham (American chamber of commerce) meetups (they charge too much here, $25-$35. Some in BJ were free).
English corners if there are any, another obvious possibility.
Philosophus
08-04-24, 01:22
Sure, semipro sounds better than pro sounds better than hardened pro.
What is important, though, is a grasp of the transitory nature of the young bird's behavior. They hail from the province, are desperate, try to practice safe sex, try that the client does the work and roger her pussy covered, making some money, then settling in between maximising LD income, and topping it off with one or two johns a month who bed them. Some are pro for a month, then fall back to semi pro, some quit, some live off money dudes send them, all depends on youth, looks and natural horniness of the chicks. Factory girls have less choices than college girls. Girls who have had local high school Khmer boys hammering them from young age on are more experienced, adventurous and horny, even when they go for the occasional p4 p once they turn 18. So do not limit your ventures to college beauties, I had wonderful times with factory gals. English through the translator app is quite enough, and nonverbal communication is good any time when your are banging away deep inside an orgasmic super petite no fat small tit angel below you.
Watch Tower
08-06-24, 10:43
Sure, semipro sounds better than pro sounds better than hardened pro.
I had wonderful times with factory gals. Good for you.
I'll stick with what I like. Not sure I'll find it in PP though.
ShinyCrazy
08-07-24, 23:21
I tried to scour the internet and ISG for daytime options in PP, and I found these:
Fishbowl at Eclipse /"Massa" massage on St. 252.
Sour Amara Spa.
2nd floor of Hotel Luxury World.
Mean Haur Hotel.
Any experiences with any of these? Other ideas?
I realize 99% of the action will come from the bars on 136,130, 118, and 104. I just want something to entertain me during the day.
I tried to scour the internet and ISG for daytime options in PP, and I found these:
Fishbowl at Eclipse /"Massa" massage on St. 252.
Sour Amara Spa.
2nd floor of Hotel Luxury World.
Mean Haur Hotel.
Any experiences with any of these? ...OMG! Luxury World Hotel "massage" is back up and running. My one and only visit there was with a buddy over 20 years ago. We were staying at the Hong Kong / Big Luck hotel across Monivong. It was lunch time and we took a walk to find a place to eat. That is how we came across Luxury World. We were sitting in the restaurant on the ground floor and I noticed that a couple of tables nearby were occupied by young women with red short shorts and white tops. They were a bit flirtatious, making eye contact and with big smiles. As they left, my friend and I followed them up a staircase to what turned out to be a fishbowl with at least 20 gals. All were 5-7's. As I recall, the cost was $10 per hour / shot. I didn't partake, but my friend did. He said it was ok for $10. His gal, he said, was a bit "shy".
A few years later, Cambo authorities started deporting Viet ho's en masse. All of the "massage" shops on Street 63 disappeared overnight. I think that the Luxury World "spa" got wrapped up in that sweep also.
Doesn't cost anything to look. It's near St 198 and Monivong.
Sam Sanuk.
I didn't realize Cyrcee Secret Bar in the new location closed down too.If you mean Sona, it was open last time I went by, a couple weeks ago.
Been a few years since I was last in PP and I was curious to see what has changed. First things to notice is that the drive in from that airport is faster since the roadworks were completed. A lot of new and much bigger buildings along the way in. Riverside and the back streets are still as I recall. We arrived late and I decided to take my wingman to Airforce One as it was a bar I enjoyed last time around. To my surprise some of the older, less attractive girls were still in that bar and even remembered me they claimed. Anyway the talent was not a good as last time but there were a few worth drinking with. The better looking ones did not speak english which was a real shame. So I picked one that did and decided to ask early if she went with customers. She confirmed she did and after a few hours of playing billards and drinking we headed back to the hotel. Normally I would not take a girl from a girly bar who was not hand-ONS or showed any affection while in the bar, however it was getting late and I was tired and did not want to go to another bar. So knowing she was not going to be a GFE I readied myself for some starfish sex. Back in the room I decided to see if DATY would fire her up and while she got soaking wet, she claimed she did not really like DATY that much. She had a very large set of natural breasts which is odd for a Cambo girl. So then popped the cap on and proceeded to missionary position and finished with a doggy. WIR, no because there are way too many bars here with a lot of girls.
The next day we decided to head out earlier and went to a few bars to test out the talent. First stop was Xanadu. We arrived a little early so there was not a lot of girls in but over the hour we were there they started to drift in. Some of them seemed to be worth another look on another day. We decided to head to Baccara Bar. This bar had a lot of girls and were slightly younger than the girls at Xanadu. Nice billard table and the girls take the game very seriously. So we played a fair few games and I while playing I spotted one that was my type. I brought her a drink and asked her if she goes with customers to which she answered yes. So I told her it was still a little early and that I would come back for her. My wingman had his eye on a girl he saw at Airforce One the night before so we went back there again. We drank with the girls for a few hours and the he asked the girl he spotted if she would go with him to which she said yes. He paid the barfine and we left and on the way back to the hotel he dropped me off at Bacarra Bar. The girl was happy to see me and was very affectionate. The good thing about the Baccara bar was that the girls were not overly pushy for drinks whereas I felt that Airforce One they were just after the drink and were very pushy.
So we went back to the hotel after a few hours. Back in the room she was a pleasure to see naked. Nice natural small breasts, tight arse and curvy waist. She provided a very nice GFE with long, multiple sex positions for a very nice doggy finish. Fell asleep for a few hours before heading home. WIR, yes because she was a no stress and fun to be with girl.
What we did notice hopping between the bars was that vast number of girls sitting out the front of the bars and the really low number of punters. They say it is low season but there was not that many punters in any of the bars we visited on a Saturday night. We will see what the next few days bring. As usual, days in PP can be long if you are not working or not sight seeing. Massages and sitting by the pool are at least one way of passing the time. Happy Hunting.
WintersLight
08-12-24, 08:21
I tried to scour the internet and ISG for daytime options in PP, and I found these:
Fishbowl at Eclipse /"Massa" massage on St. 252.
Sour Amara Spa.
2nd floor of Hotel Luxury World.
Mean Haur Hotel.I also found a lot of references to these places before I went to PP, but I think that most online info is heavily outdated for the city; Massa on Str 252 closed either during or before the pandemic. And I think that Hotel Luxury World is also still closed; last google or TripAdvisor reviews were three years ago. And if you see any references online to the Golden Sorya Mall for freelancers, that's also been closed and in fact torn down, so don't get your hopes up.
For daytime action, I have heard of a newer spot in the BKK area (that's Beung Keng Kang, not Bangkok) that offers, well, Bangkok or Japanese-style nuru massage with FS. It's called Sky Massage Phnom Penh. It has an active Telegram channel which does appear very, um, appealing.
Also scattered around the city, most massage places next to a KTV may offer more than just massage. (They are banking on all the blue-balled KTV customers looking for the release they never got while losing their $$$ with the KTV girls). But, for the most part, Phnom Penh is a city for the night. Good luck, enjoy.
So having survived the long day of sitting by the pool and recovering, we decided to do some bar hopping. As it was Saturday night I was expecting to see a lot more punters out and about. The bars had a lot of girls but the punters were thin on the ground. We walked along 130 and 136 and dropped into a bar called Xanadu. It was a little early but the number of girls was growing and some very attractive ones were making their way in. We drank with a few of them and enjoyed some billards. The girls are a little more pushy for drinks than normal but are not overly aggressive. We stayed about 1 hour and then left for Baccara in 118. Nice bar with a decent billard table and some cute but younger girls. One older girl did catch my eye and I bought a few drinks and played some billards with her. Nice body and pretty face with a good attitude. Told her my wingman wanted to head to another bar and that I would be back to collect her later. We went back to Xanadu and the place was full of girls and a few punters as well. My wingman grabbed a cute girl and off he went for some fun. I played billards and got the names of a few that could be worth a shot over the coming days. Ended up back at Baccara where I met up with the girl and we had few more hours of drinking and billard playing. The girls in the bar take their billards seriously so if you are not a good player you will be buying drinks a lot. They are not as pushy as the girls in Xanadu. We went back to the hotel and my girl did not disappoint. GFE with many positions and a lot of DFK. Stayed a few hours after for a short cuddle and sleep. WIR, yes because of good service and nice attitude.
Day 3 we bar hopped a few of the bars on 136 but all were the same. Pushy for drinks with girls demanding you buy a drink before you even sit down. We went back to 104 and went into Airforce Bar. Was a slow night and hard to be the only two punters in the place. After a few drinks we left and decided to go to Xanadu. Was full of girls and a lot of punters. I had my eye on one that I was drinking with the day before but sadly was told that she does not go with customers. However all was not lost as I spotted a taller girl with a really nice figure. Quickly ordered drinks and began to get settle with her. I then remembered the golden rule to ask if she goes with customers to which she smiled back and said yes. Well I reckon my dick grew six inches when she said yes and I so looking forward to our time in the room later in the night. Xanadu was loud and rocking and while it has a good atmosphere the number of women in there makes it challenge as they all push you for a drink even if you have a girl in hand. It is constant and they also try to move in on each others claim. Interesting to see that they have no ethics about moving in on another girls catch.
My wingman and I grabbed our girls and headed back to our rooms for some fun. Mine promptly jumped in the shower and then came out to reveal a great figure to match a pretty face. After I showered we hopped under the sheets and began a great sesssion. DATY, DFK and lots of positions. Finished with doggy looking at her great arse. WIR, yes and I intend to tonight.
PP days are long but the nights make it worthwhile. You need to spend time bar hopping to find what you want in PP. Watch the bill tab and stay firm on telling the girls that you are not interested in that you will not buy them drinks. Reckon 4-5 days is about the perfect length of time. Happy Hunting.
Nuttin Serious
08-13-24, 23:22
So having survived the long day of sitting by the pool. Happy Hunting.Thanks for the. Planning on exploring PP for some variety in a few weeks, encouraging to know theres some worthwhile fishing grounds.
ShinyCrazy
08-14-24, 01:13
For daytime action, I have heard of a newer spot in the BKK area (that's Beung Keng Kang, not Bangkok) that offers, well, Bangkok or Japanese-style nuru massage with FS. It's called Sky Massage Phnom Penh. It has an active Telegram channel which does appear very, um, appealing.
Excellent! Thanks for the tip. Trip is planned for November. If I find Sky Massage, I'll post a trip report.
ShinyCrazy
08-14-24, 01:22
Excellent! Thanks for the tip. Trip is planned for November. If I find Sky Massage, I'll post a trip report.I searched Google maps and found:
Sky Massage Phnom Penh Saint 398.
SKY TK Massage.
Sky Massage & Sauna.
LE SKY Massage Studio.
They all look like erotic massage, and the first two are actually open 24 hours. Guessing that "Sky Massage" is like "Happy Pizza". Wink wink. Once the name means something to foreigners, everyone uses the name in order to attract a crowd.
Mosquito2002
08-14-24, 02:10
So having survived the long day of sitting by the pool and recovering, we decided to do some bar hopping. As it was Saturday night I was expecting to see a lot more punters out and about. The bars had a lot of girls but the punters were thin on the ground. We walked along 130 and 136 and dropped into a bar called Xanadu. It was a little early but the number of girls was growing and some very attractive ones were making their way in. We drank with a few of them and enjoyed some billards. The girls are a little more pushy for drinks than normal but are not overly aggressive. We stayed about 1 hour and then left for Baccara in 118. Nice bar with a decent billard table and some cute but younger girls. One older girl did catch my eye and I bought a few drinks and played some billards with her. Nice body and pretty face with a good attitude. Told her my wingman wanted to head to another bar and that I would be back to collect her later. We went back to Xanadu and the place was full of girls and a few punters as well. My wingman grabbed a cute girl and off he went for some fun. I played billards and got the names of a few that could be worth a shot over the coming days. Ended up back at Baccara where I met up with the girl and we had few more hours of drinking and billard playing. The girls in the bar take their billards seriously so if you are not a good player you will be buying drinks a lot. They are not as pushy as the girls in Xanadu. We went back to the hotel and my girl did not disappoint. GFE with many positions and a lot of DFK. Stayed a few hours after for a short cuddle and sleep. WIR, yes because of good service and nice attitude.
Day 3 we bar hopped a few of the bars on 136 but all were the same. Pushy for drinks with girls demanding you buy a drink before you even sit down. We went back to 104 and went into Airforce Bar. Was a slow night and hard to be the only two punters in the place. After a few drinks we left and decided to go to Xanadu. Was full of girls and a lot of punters. I had my eye on one that I was drinking with the day before but sadly was told that she does not go with customers. However all was not lost as I spotted a taller girl with a really nice figure. Quickly ordered drinks and began to get settle with her. I then remembered the golden rule to ask if she goes with customers to which she smiled back and said yes. Well I reckon my dick grew six inches when she said yes and I so looking forward to our time in the room later in the night. Xanadu was loud and rocking and while it has a good atmosphere the number of women in there makes it challenge as they all push you for a drink even if you have a girl in hand. It is constant and they also try to move in on each others claim. Interesting to see that they have no ethics about moving in on another girls catch.
My wingman and I grabbed our girls and headed back to our rooms for some fun. Mine promptly jumped in the shower and then came out to reveal a great figure to match a pretty face. After I showered we hopped under the sheets and began a great sesssion. DATY, DFK and lots of positions. Finished with doggy looking at her great arse. WIR, yes and I intend to tonight.
PP days are long but the nights make it worthwhile. You need to spend time bar hopping to find what you want in PP. Watch the bill tab and stay firm on telling the girls that you are not interested in that you will not buy them drinks. Reckon 4-5 days is about the perfect length of time. Happy Hunting.If you don't mind, can you provide costs of drinks / BF / ST / LT.
If you don't mind, can you provide costs of drinks / BF / ST / LT.That was probably a $200 night.
WintersLight
08-14-24, 19:44
I searched Google maps and found:
Sky Massage Phnom Penh Saint 398.
SKY TK Massage.
Sky Massage & Sauna.
LE SKY Massage Studio.
They all look like erotic massage, and the first two are actually open 24 hours. Guessing that "Sky Massage" is like "Happy Pizza". Wink wink. Once the name means something to foreigners, everyone uses the name in order to attract a crowd.Yeah, it's the one on 398. No 17, Str 398, according to their Telegram channel. Channel is mainly filled with photos of what appear to be Vietnamese girls, so I can't tell if they're importing them from VN or if they're just reusing photos from spas there.
Sky was recommended on another Telegram channel devoted to Phnom Penh nightlife. That user noted the price was equivalent to higher-end nuru places in Bangkok. I haven't tried them yet, but hope to visit when I'm back in a few months.
Thanks.
That was probably a $200 night.A bar hop night, BF and a long time will be around the $150 per night depending on how much you drink and how many girls flock around you to get a drink off you. We did buy a lot of drinks but remember, we are on holiday and come to play. I am a sure that locals would pay much less and that is fine. YMMV. Happy Hunting.
So our last night in PP was well planned out, or so we thought. We planned to bar hop and end up at Xanadu to grab the girls we had the night before. Started off at Cowgirls but it was not happening there and the girls were so so. Walked along 130 and 136 and while there was a lot of girls outside each bar, we just could not find anything that caught our eyes. Then decided to head to 104 to check out NaNa bar. We knew there was a billard table upstairs so we decided to grab two girls and take them upstairs to play pool. Interesting set-up having the upstairs table as there is a lot of privacy. Now it is fair to say that the girls were more interested in playing with our balls than the pool table balls. A lot of hand action and the girls even decided that the table was better to dance on than play billards. After a few too many drinks we bar fine them and took them back for the night. Golden rule is never let the girls drink too much otherwise they will not perform. Now while mine was not too drunk, it was enough to make for sex that was just ok. Standard stuff, DATY and many positions, but somehow it was not what the night promised, WIR, no because there was no real GFE and PP has way too many girls to repeat an average performer.
So our trip to PP has ended and we fly back to BKK tomorrow. Not much has changed aside from the lack of punters and the big increase in girls and bars. The girls on average appear to be younger and there are some cute ones to be found. Daytime is tough but the nights make up for it. Would I come back again? Maybe for a few days, but I prefer Pattaya and a few days in BKK these days. Happy Hunting.
Banana Boi
08-15-24, 02:41
We did buy a lot of drinks but remember, we are on holiday and come to play. I am a sure that locals would pay much less and that is fine.I agree totally with this. I don't understand guys who are on vacation for a week or two and penny pinch. You're on vacation. Overspend if you're having fun.
Having been out with Axiata and his Wingman before I can say there are very few guys I know who have as good a time as they have when they go to bars.
I agree totally with this. I don't understand guys who are on vacation for a week or two and penny pinch. You're on vacation. Overspend if you're having fun.
Having been out with Axiata and his Wingman before I can say there are very few guys I know who have as good a time as they have when they go to bars.Thank BB. Been a while since we have bar hopped with you. We must do that when we are next in Pattaya. Keep well and Happy Hunting.
Explorer8939
08-17-24, 02:09
First night in Phnom Penh, on 136 street.
Tons of young spinners. ST is 3000 baht or $100 US.
Customers in the bars are mostly Chinese, with lots of Indian guys walking around. Just a handful of Farangs.
First night in Phnom Penh, on 136 street.
Tons of young spinners. ST is 3000 baht or $100 US.
Customers in the bars are mostly Chinese, with lots of Indian guys walking around. Just a handful of Farangs.Last November I paid US $50 for short time. Have prices increased?
First night in Phnom Penh, on 136 street.
Tons of young spinners. ST is 3000 baht or $100 US.
Customers in the bars are mostly Chinese, with lots of Indian guys walking around. Just a handful of Farangs.Hell, those are BKK prices! LOL Last time I paid from St 136 was about 4 years ago. $30ST was considered generous. The most I paid was $70 LT and readily accepted after compromising by both parties.
Like I said before, these gals must consider their customers to be mercy fucks, when the truth is the opposite. Most would have to pay me and then I would have to put a bag over their heads. LOL.
A bar hop night, BF and a long time will be around the $150 per night depending on how much you drink and how many girls flock around you to get a drink off you. We did buy a lot of drinks but remember, we are on holiday and come to play. I am a sure that locals would pay much less and that is fine. YMMV. Happy Hunting.I'm not criticizing, just putting things in perspective for the rookies. You ain't getting it cheaper than in Bangkok if you are a partier.
Watch Tower
08-18-24, 14:32
Tons of young spinners. ST is 3000 baht or $100 US.
Hell, those are BKK prices! LOL Last time I paid from St 136 was about 4 years ago. $30ST was considered generous. The most I paid was $70 LT and readily accepted after compromising by both parties.
Like I said before, these gals must consider their customers to be mercy fucks, when the truth is the opposite. Most would have to pay me and then I would have to put a bag over their heads. LOL.$100? Those are western rates.
First time in Cambodia so would like to thank the posters before me and especially World Traveler 69 for his wonderful map. I have to admit the only bar that I can add to his list is Tiger bar 136. I was more focus on which girl I would take than the bar where she worked at. Since me and my friend were there only for three nights, we just pulled from either street 136 or 130. We did take a walk down to 104 but mostly older ladies there.
First impression. Many many young attractive girls in front of the bars. If they bar fine and not only drink girls, I would like it here. Here's some practical information. Most bars charge $1. 50 to $3. 00 for the regular drinks and $4. 00 to $5. 00 for lady drinks. Bar fine was anywhere between $15.00 to $30.00 with Friday and Saturdays mostly at $20.00. As far as the girls go, the price was anywhere between $50.00 to $100.00 for short time.
Our trip was for cultural and nocturnal experiences. For me it didn't start off so good and almost gave up after the first night. The hotel we stayed at was the Tao Riverside hotel only a block away from the redlight district. Girl friendly when booking for two and they pointed out that there was a $10.00 extra charge if you brought in a second girl with your first and if she stayed after midnight. I didn't think nothing of it until during the course of my stay I saw three different guys bringing two girls, all during the day. Good on them.
We did find an excellent Mexican restaurant about a block and a half away from the hotel called Mexicano. This place is legit with home made salsas and much needed air-conditioning. It's weird because it was so hot and humid in P / P we only ate one meal a day. Twice was at this restaurant.
Day 1: This was a long day because we arrived late afternoon and the flights from the USA Is long. From the hotel we walked to redlight district a block away and basically made a couple of loops just to get a feel of the place. As our t-shirts were starting to get wet from our sweat we headed into one of the bars with young looking girls sitting out in front. We had to ask the mama san if all these girls were of legal age because some look like they were only 15. She said yes and we settled in. After a while we brought a couple of girls to our table. We asked the mama san what the barfine was and she said since it's Friday the barfine would be $20.00. The girls we negotiated by ourselves. Mine started at $100. I countered with $50, no. $60 no, $70 no, she wouldn't bulge from $100 so I left the bar. Later when I saw my friend, he said his girl started at $100 but settled on $60. After leaving that bar I ducked into another bar with young and attractive girls in front. I just pointed to one and got her a drink. I asked about the barfine and here to it was $20. This girl started at $80 but we settled on $60. This is where it got confusing. As I was going to pay the barfine, the cashier said the barfine was $30. I told the cashier the mamasan said $20. The cashier held her ground so I looked at the girl and said sorry, I cannot take you when this cashier is trying to rip me off. She kind of had a sad look, since she wouldn't be getting any kind of payment from me. I felt bad for the girl but I just thought it was BS to pull this kind of stunt after agreeing to a certain price. Since this left me in a foul mood, I walked back to the hotel thinking maybe P / P isn't for me.
Day 2 After doing some of the sights in the day, off we go to the red light district. We go into the only bar I can remember the name of, Tiger bar 136. I remember it because it reminded me of a regular bar. When we walked in all the girls followed us in. We told the mama san we would like some private time before we pick a girl and the mama san sent the girls back outside. The music was at a level where you can talk and listen without yelling. On the table were little dishes of peanuts and at the end of the table were bags of microwave popcorn it you wanted. One of the better clubs imop. So after a while we ask the mama san to bring the girls in. Some new faces from before and two of them looked like 16 and 17 years old. I picked a young looking one and told me she was 18. After a while I asked if she barfined. I know, that should have been my first question but she said yes. Again, started off at $100 and settled at $70. Barfine was $20. Here's the only negative about this bar, there was a three drink minimum before you could barfine. This was the only bar that had the three drink rule that we went to.
She wanted to tuk tuk back to the hotel but I convinced her the hotel was only a block away so we walked. In the room there is nothing like seeing a very young girl naked next to you. Skin so smooth and tight. You could tell she was inexperienced but it didn't matter, it was nice. She would kiss but no DFK and also no BJ of anykind. What she did offer was BBFS. I never ask for this but if it happens I just go with it. I guess this girl hasn't had sex in a while because during our foreplay she got very wet. I was on top of her when she just kind of squirm and I felt that warm feeling of being inside of her. I wasn't planning on BBFS but since she initiated it, off we went. I finished on her stomach and she seemed disappointed that I didn't finish inside of her. I'am used to South American women who mostly want you to finish on the outside. Not all but most in my encounters. After, we shower together and I told her I would walk her back to the bar. We get downstairs and instead of turning left to go back to the hotel she turns right. I raise my voice to get her attention but what she was doing was going to a tuk tuk to get a ride back to the bar. So after a disappointing first night, the second night gave me good feelings for P / P.
Day 3 and final night. So after more touring during the day, we headed out around 20:00 and hit a couple of bars. The last bar we went into was on street 130. Again I picked a young good looking hottie. She said she was 19 and it showed back in the room. Since it was Sunday the barfine was $15. I don't believe there was a drink minimum but we were in the bar for a while so if there were we probably reached it. Again she started at $100 but settled for $60. Back in the hotel this girl was better at dfking but again no BJ of any kind. Good thing that doesn't bother me. Not sure what it is with these Cambodian girls but this one got just as wet as the other girl. Both left water stains on the sheets which in my opinion is good. Also just like the girl from the night before, without even trying, I was inside of her warm body. This time I finished inside of her and no complaint. This was a nice ending to my short trip to P / P.
Summary.
After the first night I wasn't sure P / P was for me but that changed in a hurry after the second night. I do agree that after doing the tourist stuff, there isn't much to do in the day. If that changed I would schedule a return trip soon but for now, it will be a wait and see.
I didn't realize how young and beautiful the girls at the bars would be. A very pleasant surprise.
If you haven't been here, you do need to adjust your expectations a bit and you will be fine. Fortunately, we didn't run into those so called original girls or only drink girls. With the girls sitting in front of the bars it kind of reminded me of Thaniya Road. In Bangkok. IMHO, I would've taken most of the young girls in front of the bars where as in many other place I would only find one or two that I would take.
Finally, I didn't realize that BBFS was so easy here. I know my sample size is small and again, I wasn't looking to have BBFS but it did happen.
Hopefully this helps for anyone thinking about visiting P / P.
Nice reports.
All that traveling, time, money and Heat and not even one blowjob to report.
If you like getting your dick sucked, Cambodia is not the place for you. In fact, Cambodia is not even a decent-mongering destination. Of course I've said this numerous times in the past yet people still drop thousands of dollars to go to Phnom Penh and not even feel the tip of the tongue on their pulsating manhoods. Maybe after these two fine reports folks will listen.
Nice reports.
All that traveling, time, money and Heat and not even one blowjob to report.
If you like getting your dick sucked, Cambodia is not the place for you. In fact, Cambodia is not even a decent-mongering destination. Of course I've said this numerous times in the past yet people still drop thousands of dollars to go to Phnom Penh and not even feel the tip of the tongue on their pulsating manhoods. Maybe after these two fine reports folks will listen.Indeed, two nice reports. FWIW, I crave having my dick sucked. And have never had trouble finding a bar girl unwilling to provide that service. All I have had to do was conduct a rudimentary pre-employment interview. That is not to say that all will oblige. And I'm not talking about LE Cyrcee or other "secret" bars where the ho's would line up to taste one's meat while you sat at the bar. Not for the price of a drink, but with the hope you would give them a $1 tip. I agree with your assessment about Cambodia not being a bucket list destination for mongering. But it's far from being a desert in that regard (in my opinion).
Also, for those who insist on bareback service, Khmer providers (in 100% of my encounters) don't think twice about obliging. Even with a condom prominently displayed on a nightstand, they've ignored it. (100% of the time.) It's as though they don't know what it is! Above are just my personal experiences. As always, your mileage may vary.
Sam.
Any news on the guest friendliness of the Hyatt Regency? I did a search here and didn't find anything.
Watch Tower
09-13-24, 21:37
Any news on the guest friendliness of the Hyatt Regency? I did a search here and didn't find anything.Hotels. Have them walk 10 steps behind or in front of you and head to the elevator. Have never had a problem. Then again, the girls I like are in flats with no makeup.
She wanted to tuk tuk back to the hotel but I convinced her the hotel was only a block away so we walked. Did the hotel ask for her ID?
FYI, I've been to PP. Click my profile to see my field reports.
Arrived late afternoon. Checked in at naga 2.
Headed to happy paradize pizza. Had a Hawaiian chicken pizza small size plus with the happy option for usd 4 along with anchor beer.
Pizza was good the effect started kicking in after 1 hour.
Then I headed down to street 136 and 130. Enteres a place called Charlie chan. Nice setup with 3 girls on the dance poll.
Called down a dancer for a drink. She was with the red tagg and say no barfine for all the red tag. Can only barfine the ones with green tagg. Didn't see anyone interesting there.
Then I continued walking along those street forgot the name of the shop. Met a nice 27 yo lady can speak a bit English not an issue can use google translate.
Agreed for 100 usd long time stay till 9 am. Paid the 20 usd barfine and bill for the beers. In total around 40 usd.
Headed back to room boom boom one round then we headed to phontoon for more drinks.
Round 2 in the morning 8 am. She got ready and left.
Overall streets 136/130 many available young pretty girls. Have to use google translate.
Nuttin Serious
09-30-24, 21:47
Thank you for the update, please keep them coming! I'm planning to visit pnhom penh nexr month so am grateful for any fresh info
Arrived late afternoon. Checked in at naga 2.
Headed to happy paradize pizza. Had a Hawaiian chicken pizza small size plus with the happy option for usd 4 along with anchor beer.
Pizza was good the effect started kicking in after 1 hour.
Then I headed down to street 136 and 130. Enteres a place called Charlie chan. Nice setup with 3 girls on the dance poll.
Called down a dancer for a drink. She was with the red tagg and say no barfine for all the red tag. Can only barfine the ones with green tagg. Didn't see anyone interesting there.
Then I continued walking along those street forgot the name of the shop. Met a nice 27 yo lady can speak a bit English not an issue can use google translate.
Agreed for 100 usd long time stay till 9 am. Paid the 20 usd barfine and bill for the beers. In total around 40 usd.
Headed back to room boom boom one round then we headed to phontoon for more drinks.
Round 2 in the morning 8 am. She got ready and left.
Overall streets 136/130 many available young pretty girls. Have to use google translate..
Thank you for the update, please keep them coming! I'm planning to visit pnhom penh nexr month so am grateful for any fresh info.I spent the remaining days exploring the girly bars on street 104,118, 130,136.
Prices almost same in all the bar. Mostly st I picked from 60-80. Long time 80-120.
Barfines are 20 usd. Beers 1.5-2.5 usd.
One of the nights I went to a club nearby nagaworld. Its called edm6 I think. Not many foreigners in there. Had a few drinks and back to hotel.
The bar inside naga called dalin dalin filled with Chinese patrons. Went once and didn't bother. Had a few nice girls inside.
Banana Boi
10-02-24, 22:21
The bar inside naga called dalin dalin filled with Chinese patrons. Went once and didn't bother. Had a few nice girls inside.Why didn't you bother at Darlin Darlin? Girls only paid attention to Chinese guys? You were being rejected from those you asked? Too expensive?
DD has reputation as a place for girls to hopefully catch someone who won it big at the casino.
Why didn't you bother at Darlin Darlin? Girls only paid attention to Chinese guys? You were being rejected from those you asked? Too expensive?
DD has reputation as a place for girls to hopefully catch someone who won it big at the casino.Great points BB.
I stay in an Air BnB walking distance to Naga, and although I enjoy the interactions in the Riverside bars, I have frequently decided on a whim to drop in to' Darlin Darlin' to check out the line up and 9/10 times I have brought someone home. Some of the girls see themselves as prima donas and will ask top price but I have always had no problems getting someone for anywhere between 50 - 100 usd for ST action.
Before anyone starts jumping up and down, think about it. No BF. No string of expensive drinks for mamasans etc. No tutktuks to a hotel. Just point and click. To my mind, $100 plus $5-10 for a couple of drinks is good value for me. I prefer ST too. I am always working when in PNH so I need a good sleep and don't need any dramas or distractions in the morning.
The biggest negative of Naga in general and DD in particular is the cigarette smoke. It is sometimes like a London fog in there.
FlyingSparkz
10-09-24, 04:05
Good folks of this forum could you please advice on where to find older women in PP. Most places seem to be having only young girls. While young ones are a refreshing change for me, my go to remains MILF'S in the 35-40 years range.
Any pointers to specific establishments would be greatly helpful.
TIA.
Iskederxxx
10-10-24, 05:04
I'll be in PP for the 1st time in Dec, and I've read that a typical LT time is 2-3 hours. Does this time include as many shots as you can fit into the agreed time slot?
Iskederxxx
10-10-24, 05:48
I'll be in PP soon and I've learned fron the forum that a typical ST session is 2-3 hours. Does that include as many shots as I can fit in the agreed time slot? Many thanks for your help!!
I'll be in PP soon and I've learned fron the forum that a typical ST session is 2-3 hours. Does that include as many shots as I can fit in the agreed time slot? Many thanks for your help!!Best, these days, to discuss that with the service provider before a deal is made.
Sam.
Any news on the guest friendliness of the Hyatt Regency? I did a search here and didn't find anything.To answer my own question, it's been completely girl friendly so far. That includes going in through the central, royal villa entrance, or the side entrances. Nobody has made any move to check ID or otherwise impede progress to the elevators.
Nuttin Serious
10-13-24, 13:02
I'll be in PP soon and I've learned fron the forum that a typical ST session is 2-3 hours. Does that include as many shots as I can fit in the agreed time slot? Many thanks for your help!!You're english comprehension is off.
A TYPICAL ST sessiom is the same as anywhere else. One shot, "you come I go". Time isn't strictly defined but they arnt interested in wasting more than necessary with you. In more rural areas a ST is going to be more like 30 minutes. Or 20 minutes.
You can negotiate price for a longer session with multiple shots of course, up front, and people do. But that's not the default option.
Nuttin Serious
10-13-24, 13:03
Phnom Penh thoughts and rambling.
After 4 nights in the rivedside 130-136 area, some honest observations.
As many have said, plenty of slim young girls to choose from.
Also plenty of older fatties too.
Some attractive ones.
Plenty of ugly ones.
Some call out to you.
Some glued to phones.
Some happy to just watch you walk by. Maybe I'm not east asian enough for those ones.
Its simple. Theres more girls than punters every day of the week it seems. That of course means the less attractive older woman harassing you for drinks and making sad faces.
ID guess the average age at 27, and the median at 24.
Modus Operandi- same as anywhere else in the world. Pretend they have been waiting all night for you to show up, and they just fell in love with you, you hansom devil, welcome you into their bar and try to gently empty your wallet.
I've had a great time overall, and its easy to reel off a highlights package that gives a false impression, but its not disneyland and theres a few negatives.
Theres a variety of bars, but a majority are cookie cutter clones. An led lit Bar with stools, some couches / booths, drinks $2 -2. 5, lady drinks $4 - 5. Barfines $15-20. Deafning music, but if not many customer they may back it off a notch on request so you don't have to yell.
Biggest difference in bars come with owners / mamas attitude. Some run a tight ship, match you up with girl (s) of your taste, make sure you are happy, translate / negotiate if desired and stay close enough to answer any questions happily. They mostly tilt towards the east asian market, and attract the younger / better looking girls. I guess you could call it the more premium end if such a word is appropriate. Certainly mama adds value to your experience.
Some mamas are a bit crazy,* get in your face, request lady drinks, and are downright annoying and in one case decided to put a non existant drink on my tab as well. At check time I challenged it, it got zeroed off and the girl sitting with me was very apologetic. Theres nothong to gain by buying mama a drink I've found, so consider mama asking for a drink a red flag. Probably not worth naming the bar since girls / staff move between bars a lot it seems.
Finally, some mamas are disinterested and leave you right alone. In one case thay was perfect because 2 very lovely hostesses piled right on, in a dark corner. One drink each, and it was close encounter time. Generously they would lift my glass for me to drink since both my hands were busy. One 19 yo MILF with a very cute face (like those apsara dancer sterotype looks) and nice enough figure, and a neat slim 21 yo with a cute ass and a weird face who didn't object to my hand going straight into her underwear on arrival. After 3 drinks each and a good 45 minutes of fun I tipped the MILF and took the slim one ST for $50. Next night I popped in and got even better mileage out of both drinks wise. MILF wasnt wearing panties tonight and was grinding on me hard before drinks were even considered. Then 30 minutes later she got her period in the middle of it. Eh. Bad luck.
Girls:
Not many I would consider objectively pretty working riverside. Lots look good from 10 meters away, and theres many a great figure, but not so cute close up. Speaking of figure, I expected most to be short and stout, but there is a surprising number of suprisingly tall, slender young ladys with long legs, flat tummies and creamy smooth skin. Many different face shapes, unfortunately half or more quite plain or unattractive to me anyway, and too much plastered on makeup doesn't fix it all at. Some look quite manly, some with quite deep voices. Some with a bit more body hair than I like. Some I would have defo picked as ladyboys. But I checked and they were born with lady bits and bad luck in the looks dept.
Slim, Young, AND Attractive actually reduces the talent pool down to less than 5% IMHO. Half of those will be mercenaries.
Bars. Prime real estate is 136 - 130 centred on 5th. The quality seems to slip towards the ends of those streets and around 118 and 110, but the sleeziness seems to rise a bit too.
Day 1: tried to visit a number of bars and get a feel for the place. Took a 19 yo with super slim body but face 4/10. $50ST. Insisted on condom, and provided herself. Shaved puss. Showered together in ST hotel, no BJ, loose pussy, mediocre fuck. WNR.
Day 2: 21 yo slim girl mentioned earlier with slightly alien but pleasant enough looking features, great figure with long legs, slim waist with smooth tummy and be cups. Much more fun. $50ST again. Short, half hearted BJ only, no condom mentioned. Would repeat if bored.
Day 3: 18 yo, tall, slim, long legs, again 5/10 in looks. She was my 2nd choice, but her better looking colleague claimed period. I think BS, she just was politely refusing me. $80ST from this place. Don't think she had been in a hotel before, seemed fascinated by everything, scared of the shower, and took a tiktok of herself in the bathroom mirror before leaving. Commented she pays $80 a month for her room. Insisted on condom. Complained about everything, loudly, was very tight, didn't like the lube. Between that and me being tired and a bit drunk couldn't finish the job. Novel experience but WNR.
Day 4: less jetlag now, and better orientation. Headed out after a nice dinner, and had some good fun with a very cute 19 yo and her chubbier18 yo friend on the couches at a 118st bar. Agreed to take both ST for $50 each. Lots of giggles. Again condom required, and again, I don't think either had been in a hotel before. But quite fun regardless. Both a bit shy, but no complaining and positioned as directed. Only banging one while fingering the other, no girl on girl action. Would repeat. Well, intend to visit again anyway.
Not all girls will go with you. The younger ones don't seem desperate for money at all, but the oldies areans know their shelf life is running out and are keener. Girls seem to be very loosely tied to the bars, shifting bar easily, and going home early if they choose. Lineup changes daily at some. A lot of places try to start at $100ST and then 'discount' to 80. In the case of the pair they stood firm on 80 for one or 50 for both. It seems that the good looking young ones will (or their mama will) stand firm at $80 even if you walk away. The slightly flawed gems, or mid 20's will take $50 ok. I was able to to find exactly what I wanted but it would be fair to say I had to sift through a few dozen girls to find them.
Day 5 to come. Now I have the additional problem of navigating without girl A seeing me with girl be. Although I'm not convinced they get mad about it it may save some face.
Phnom Penh thoughts and rambling.
After 4 nights in the rivedside 130-136 area, some honest observations.
.As it has been for the last decade or so, providers in Southeast Asia have no concept of supply and demand; no appreciation of "something is better than nothing"; or the likelihood of getting barfined as the night wears on gets smaller and smaller. $100ST should generate a lot of falling-down belly laughs. I've never been insulted with such a quote, but came close once in BKK. My response was "5000 baht? For a week?
Thanks, again, for taking the time to relate you experiences.
SS.
Nuttin Serious
10-14-24, 06:16
Thinking today, maybe I was a bit harsh with my 5% assessment. A couple of drinks and there is a lot of quite doable girls here. Anyway.
Neils mini mart on 136 is well stocked with pills, potions, lubricants and condoms including 003,002 & 001 varieties. $8 for brand name cialis I see. Also does coffee and usual minimart stuff.
Ostex does 24 HR food, which is welcome when you need a hot snack at 4 am.
Theres a massage place on 130 near the riverside end that can do a decent legit massage. Called something spa. They may do more.
I can't imagine any place here that doesn't. But it was the proper massage I was after without getting robbed.
For research purposes I asked about how long ST would be. An hour is normal expectation. I bartered with a syt for a 3 hour /2 pops session at $100 - one of the 'will not go ST less than $80' variety of cute 19 yo. After the first shot she showered, dressed and unsuprisingly enquired if she could leave. I reminded her of our deal and she didn't argue. After round 2 I let her go a few minutes early.
My take is that condom use demands in the 20 and younger bracket is high. In the mid 20's and older its not.
Exoticspirit
10-14-24, 13:05
Phnom Penh thoughts and rambling.
After 4 nights in the rivedside 130-136 area, some honest observations.
As many have said, plenty of slim young girls to choose from.
Also plenty of older fatties too.
Some attractive ones.
Plenty of ugly ones.
Some call out to you.
Some glued to phones.
Some happy to just watch you walk by. Maybe I'm not east asian enough for those ones.
Its simple. Theres more girls than punters every day of the week it seems. That of course means the less attractive older woman harassing you for drinks and making sad faces.
ID guess the average age at 27, and the median at 24.
Modus Operandi- same as anywhere else in the world. Pretend they have been waiting all night for you to show up, and they just fell in love with you, you hansom devil, welcome you into their bar and try to gently empty your wallet.
I've had a great time overall, and its easy to reel off a highlights package that gives a false impression, but its not disneyland and theres a few negatives.
Theres a variety of bars, but a majority are cookie cutter clones. An led lit Bar with stools, some couches / booths, drinks $2 -2. 5, lady drinks $4 - 5. Barfines $15-20. Deafning music, but if not many customer they may back it off a notch on request so you don't have to yell.
Biggest difference in bars come with owners / mamas attitude. Some run a tight ship, match you up with girl (s) of your taste, make sure you are happy, translate / negotiate if desired and stay close enough to answer any questions happily. They mostly tilt towards the east asian market, and attract the younger / better looking girls. I guess you could call it the more premium end if such a word is appropriate. Certainly mama adds value to your experience.
Some mamas are a bit crazy,* get in your face, request lady drinks, and are downright annoying and in one case decided to put a non existant drink on my tab as well. At check time I challenged it, it got zeroed off and the girl sitting with me was very apologetic. Theres nothong to gain by buying mama a drink I've found, so consider mama asking for a drink a red flag. Probably not worth naming the bar since girls / staff move between bars a lot it seems.
Finally, some mamas are disinterested and leave you right alone. In one case thay was perfect because 2 very lovely hostesses piled right on, in a dark corner. One drink each, and it was close encounter time. Generously they would lift my glass for me to drink since both my hands were busy. One 19 yo MILF with a very cute face (like those apsara dancer sterotype looks) and nice enough figure, and a neat slim 21 yo with a cute ass and a weird face who didn't object to my hand going straight into her underwear on arrival. After 3 drinks each and a good 45 minutes of fun I tipped the MILF and took the slim one ST for $50. Next night I popped in and got even better mileage out of both drinks wise. MILF wasnt wearing panties tonight and was grinding on me hard before drinks were even considered. Then 30 minutes later she got her period in the middle of it. Eh. Bad luck.
Girls:
Not many I would consider objectively pretty working riverside. Lots look good from 10 meters away, and theres many a great figure, but not so cute close up. Speaking of figure, I expected most to be short and stout, but there is a surprising number of suprisingly tall, slender young ladys with long legs, flat tummies and creamy smooth skin. Many different face shapes, unfortunately half or more quite plain or unattractive to me anyway, and too much plastered on makeup doesn't fix it all at. Some look quite manly, some with quite deep voices. Some with a bit more body hair than I like. Some I would have defo picked as ladyboys. But I checked and they were born with lady bits and bad luck in the looks dept.
Slim, Young, AND Attractive actually reduces the talent pool down to less than 5% IMHO. Half of those will be mercenaries.
Bars. Prime real estate is 136 - 130 centred on 5th. The quality seems to slip towards the ends of those streets and around 118 and 110, but the sleeziness seems to rise a bit too.
Day 1: tried to visit a number of bars and get a feel for the place. Took a 19 yo with super slim body but face 4/10. $50ST. Insisted on condom, and provided herself. Shaved puss. Showered together in ST hotel, no BJ, loose pussy, mediocre fuck. WNR.
Day 2: 21 yo slim girl mentioned earlier with slightly alien but pleasant enough looking features, great figure with long legs, slim waist with smooth tummy and be cups. Much more fun. $50ST again. Short, half hearted BJ only, no condom mentioned. Would repeat if bored.
Day 3: 18 yo, tall, slim, long legs, again 5/10 in looks. She was my 2nd choice, but her better looking colleague claimed period. I think BS, she just was politely refusing me. $80ST from this place. Don't think she had been in a hotel before, seemed fascinated by everything, scared of the shower, and took a tiktok of herself in the bathroom mirror before leaving. Commented she pays $80 a month for her room. Insisted on condom. Complained about everything, loudly, was very tight, didn't like the lube. Between that and me being tired and a bit drunk couldn't finish the job. Novel experience but WNR.
Day 4: less jetlag now, and better orientation. Headed out after a nice dinner, and had some good fun with a very cute 19 yo and her chubbier18 yo friend on the couches at a 118st bar. Agreed to take both ST for $50 each. Lots of giggles. Again condom required, and again, I don't think either had been in a hotel before. But quite fun regardless. Both a bit shy, but no complaining and positioned as directed. Only banging one while fingering the other, no girl on girl action. Would repeat. Well, intend to visit again anyway.
Not all girls will go with you. The younger ones don't seem desperate for money at all, but the oldies areans know their shelf life is running out and are keener. Girls seem to be very loosely tied to the bars, shifting bar easily, and going home early if they choose. Lineup changes daily at some. A lot of places try to start at $100ST and then 'discount' to 80. In the case of the pair they stood firm on 80 for one or 50 for both. It seems that the good looking young ones will (or their mama will) stand firm at $80 even if you walk away. The slightly flawed gems, or mid 20's will take $50 ok. I was able to to find exactly what I wanted but it would be fair to say I had to sift through a few dozen girls to find them.
Day 5 to come. Now I have the additional problem of navigating without girl A seeing me with girl be. Although I'm not convinced they get mad about it it may save some face.Thanks for your great report. I'll be there in a month.
SouthEaster
10-14-24, 14:48
You are so right. Even back almost 30 years ago riding up the highway in northern VN with a buddy we would stop at small places along the way and see what kind of talent was there. Bear in mind then the going rate was around 5 bucks (I once paid around 2, she just wanted to fuck a foreigner). Lots of success but we did encounter places with no business that would quote 2-3 times that (and the locals were probably paying less!) and they would not budge. Sitting around all day with no customers is preferable to making some coin. Encountered similar all over SEA and the present is no exception.
Don't get me started on price inflation. 30 years ago a can of beer in Cambodia was a dollar. Today you can still get a can of beer for a dollar. Try getting that 3-5 dollar ST now!
Street 136 Xanadu Bar definitely caught padding the bill. Avoids.
To expand on yesterday's report. Xanadu Bar tried to charge me $106 for a tab that was actually about 50. I stayed in the bar an extra 30 minutes trying to get them to give me a correct bill. They wouldn't even show me the chits that I had supposedly ordered. They weren't budging. . Then I told them I was going to the bar next door and they could come and find me. But nobody from Xanadu came. I would pay a reasonable bill but not an outlandish scam. So I just walked. Be alert out there and it's probably better to just pay as you go each round.
Nuttin Serious
10-17-24, 17:15
Final thoughts.
Very telling. There were a couple of occassions where I was plodding along, when the usual steady stream of catcalls and yells would suddenly hit turbo mode and reach scream phase.
ID look up, and sure enough theres some japanese gent (s) moved within a couple of meters of me. Yep. These girls are keen on the East asians alright. One BG told me her bar was owned by Japanese.
Girl A was well informed that I took a threesome with girl be and girl see, even thou she was off thay day. I got her tiktok but the next day she blocked me after seeing me with girl the. Yep. Some of them do get bent out of shape about this, and they run an effective intel network.
Shots are fun but the bill escalates quickly. Keep that firmly in mind. Also when I got the bill (from Cross on 136) they confusingly put down all the shots as ladydrinks on the bill, including my shot. It was accurate in the end and I paid, but at first glance it didn't seem right.
Banana Boi
10-17-24, 17:58
Xanadu Bar tried to charge me $106 for a tab that was actually about 50. <snip> Then I told them I was going to the bar next door and they could come and find me. But nobody from Xanadu came. I would pay a reasonable bill but not an outlandish scam. So I just walked. You paid the $50 you thought the bill was or you paid $0 and walked? I'm surprised if they let you walk paying $0.
You paid the $50 you thought the bill was or you paid $0 and walked? I'm surprised if they let you walk paying $0.Just paid 0 and walked. Like I said, I gave them plenty of time to fix the bill. About an hour. Maybe I shouldn't have walked. But I was drunk and mad. And they were doubling down on their scam. They never even produced the chits to back up their claim.
SouthEaster
10-20-24, 16:09
Amazed you got away with that. In fact I don't think I have ever heard of anyone that did. At the very least they normally would call the cops to help "extract" money owed. At worst they could have beaten the shit out of you. Are you 2 metres tall and a hundred kilos? You are a very lucky man.
Cornerstore
10-29-24, 09:15
I came back from PP about 2 weeks ago. I stayed there for 4 nights /5 days.
It's very late where I'm at now, but I'll say this I've motivated myself to go back to PP in 1 year.
The time before I go I want to befriend some of you and learn from what you may know. I want to educate myself with where to go and how to ask for what I'm looking for. I'm a younger lad (low 30's) and it was all kind of intimidating. I know they know why I'm there and they've seen it all. I just need to go back with a little more knowledge, money, and confidence. I did do some research before I went. I do think I stayed in the right area it's just I didn't speak my mind. If you're interested with where I stayed it's called Sun and Moon Urban Hotel.
Oh, I guess another reason I was shy is that they have to show ID to front desk. That's always embarrassing for me. Wish I knew of a place I could be more private with my guest.
But the food was good in PP.
Anyways, looking forward to reading past post and talking with you all.
Thank you.
I came back from PP about 2 weeks ago. I stayed there for 4 nights /5 days.
It's very late where I'm at now, but I'll say this I've motivated myself to go back to PP in 1 year.
The time before I go I want to befriend some of you and learn from what you may know. I want to educate myself with where to go and how to ask for what I'm looking for. I'm a younger lad (low 30's) and it was all kind of intimidating. I know they know why I'm there and they've seen it all. I just need to go back with a little more knowledge, money, and confidence. I did do some research before I went. I do think I stayed in the right area it's just I didn't speak my mind. If you're interested with where I stayed it's called Sun and Moon Urban Hotel.
Oh, I guess another reason I was shy is that they have to show ID to front desk. That's always embarrassing for me. Wish I knew of a place I could be more private with my guest.
But the food was good in PP.
Anyways, looking forward to reading past post and talking with you all.
Thank you.Why the hell would you go to PP to monger when you can go to Bangkok.
Watch Tower
11-05-24, 19:03
Why the hell would you go to PP to monger when you can go to Bangkok.For the same reason someone will stay at a Motel 6 instead of a nice be&be for $5 more. It's not the money. Some are intimidated by quality and class.
Walking by the $5 and $10 massage place on my routine walks, not tempted. At all.
Would much prefer an incall gal if anyone knows how to connect with them.
Nuttin Serious
11-07-24, 10:18
I came back from PP about 2 weeks ago. I stayed there for 4 nights /5 days.
Thank you.You may be overthinking things way too much. The problems in your mind. Maybe try going to Bangkok, and visit some massage places to clear your head of doubts and fears. Read all the forums.
Exoticspirit
11-07-24, 13:06
Oh, I guess another reason I was shy is that they have to show ID to front desk. That's always embarrassing for me. Wish I knew of a place I could be more private with my guest.This is going to be the case in many places including Thailand and Colombia. When I first encountered this, I too was a bit embarrassed. But I soon got over it because I realized that having the girls to submit their IDs to hotels is actually a good thing for our protection. If something goes wrong in your room when your girls are there, ie. , theft or they get aggressive with money demands or they try to drug you, hotel staff will know about it and they know who the girls are. This acts as a big deterrent for the girls to misbehave. I've even been to some hotels where staff will actually call you to make sure everything is fine before allowing the girls to leave the premises with their IDs. So you have to start thinking in your head that all this is a good thing. For me when I travel to monger countries and bring girls back to my hotel (or Airbnb rooms for that matter), I'm going to see ID security as a requirement much of the time now.
If you are still not willing to go through with this ID arrangement yet, then stick to the mongering venues where instead of bringing girls back to your hotel room, you use onsite rooms of an establishment like massage places and brothel type of venues which are common in many countries.
Exoticspirit
11-20-24, 01:07
So after my two nights in Vietnam (also posted report there), I flew out to Phnom Penh for my very first trip to Cambodia. First the entry was a pain in the butt. Much like with Vietnam, I needed to get an evisa in advance which is a money grab. Upon check in for me flight at the Ho Chi Minh airport, I was instructed to do a second visa which is the arrival visa. Good thing I did this while still in Vietnam because upon landing in Phnom Penh I was sort of fast tracked into a shorter immigration line. The poor folks who did not have this nor the evisa had to endure a much longer line to buy a visa on arrival. Anyway, I ordered a Grab tuk tuk and took an entertaining ride to the city.
Much like in Ho Chi Minh, motorbike were zipping side by side with the tuk tuks and cars. I could touch those zipping along side of our tuk tuk as I watch at times entire families with toddlers all without helmets on same scooters as well as those who decide to drive up along sidewalks before finding an opening to swerve back onto roads. Safety standards are indeed different here as both guys and gals were equally aggressive on the roads.
Made it to my hotel Point Boutique which I would totally recommend for mongers. It's right at the start of street 130 at the waterfront. Street 130 is one of the main girlie bar streets while the adjacent streets 136 and 118 with 130 in the middle are the other two main ones with 136 being the one with the most girlie bars. So this was a great home base for my next two nights with lots of food spots all in the area too. The waterfront is also a nice spot to just chill out and I was able to walk to tourist attractions like what Phnom where the bats tree is as well as the Royal Palace.
Of course the main attraction for us with the girls, this was the prime spot. Even other girlie streets like 110 were within easy walking with street 5 criss crossing all the main streets. The overall vibe I got was that the PP scene was an old frontiers type of red light area. At night, all the girls were sitting outside their bars and as soon as I walked by, the cat calling started. And they are loud too. Much like with other reports, there are not a ton of mongers here so the ratio of girls to customers is very lop sided in our favour. Been like that for awhile and I do have a theory why. Outside of mongering, I personally did not find much else of tourist interest to me. I'm not into the genocide attractions and the two I already mentioned could be seen within a morning. So I actually got a bit bored here. Also the place overall is a bit on the dumpy side with bad infrastructure for pedestrians and smell of garbage at times. I even saw bags of garbage floating down the river.
Back to the girls. I found whenever there were huge masses of girls together calling for your attention, it's sometimes awkward to approach to single one out for a private conversation. Although they were trying to get me in for drinks first, I resisted since I'm really not interested in drinking with the girls. On my first night I did spot a MILF at one bar who was a bit separated from her colleagues and therefore was an easy approach. I inquired about short time after reading that some girls might not go out with customers and wanted to screen out these drink queens. My MILF agreed to $50 after initially quoting $70 with $20 as the bar fine. I'm glad I took her as it ended up being a great unrushed total GFE session back at the hotel. Also my hotel told me all we had to do is have the girls submit ID and we were good to go up without any extra charges.
After our session and we parted back on the street, she suggested we get together for dinner the next day and I was thinking of doing this but since I had only two nights here, I wanted to try another girl. For my next night I took a young looking girl with glasses from another bar and to keep this short, I got her for the same $50 and $20 bar fine without drinks after being turned down by another at another bar who wanted $100 for short time. This young thing with glasses turned out to be a disaster session as she became quite non communicative as soon as we left the bar for my hotel. There was zero passion and although it seemed she was just going to rush things, I ended the session early which surprised her. She actually seemed disappointed and didn't even shower up afterwards and left as soon as she put on her clothes without even saying goodbye.
So one win and one lost for me here in PP. Maybe I should have done a screening drink after all so I'll re-evaluate my own strategy. Or maybe just not pull any girl that looks too young as they might be too inexperienced.
Overall, at this point of my four country trip with Cambodia being the second one, I prefer Vietnam. I'm sure that Thailand will be awesome so it's unlikely I'll return to Phnom Penh. I'm off to Siem Reap for the Angkor what temples and I already know that mongering will be almost nonexistent there but that's okay since my plan all along was to do the tourist things there before moving onto Thailand. Thanks for all those who answered my many questions here this year and I hope my report here was worthwhile.
Where are you getting your info from? Svay pak pretty much died 20 years ago when foreign dogooders and the government combined to close the place almost completely. If it ever came back it can only be a shadow of it's former glory and the girls are probably the same ones from 20 years ago! But hey, head out and give it a look and report back. If you have anything good to report I will be amazed but appreciative of the info. One thing is for sure, you ain't going to be screwing hot young Vietnamese chicks for 5 bucks a pop.Its not in svay pak but it's still easy to get, expensive but I've had my fun.
LetMeIn6969
12-11-24, 21:22
Phnom Penh.
Dec 9.
I arrived at noon and took a Grab taxi to Naga 2. Traffic was terrible! I got a room on the 10th floor and took a shower then hit the street for a late lunch. I ate at Titanic restaurant and got a haircut then back at the hotel for a nap.
Around 8 pm I went to Ostex Bar and sat at the balcony with Emily and her coworker for people watching. Nothing at Ostex caught my eye so I went to the street. Mamasan at Diamond bar called me over and offered me two young girls (19 and 21) for $100 each plus $20 BF. I told her that I don't want deadfish and she talked to the girls in Khmer and I had no idea what she said. She then told me that she said to them to listen to me and do what I told them to do. We took a tuk tuk back to the room and disaster struck:
Everyone jumped into the showered, I cleaned one girl real good and started on the second one. I told the first girl to kneel down and give me BJ. She told me no BJ. WTF? I told the second girl to suck me and she said no BJ. I got out of the shower and called mamasan but she didn't pick up. I told the girls to get dress and get the fuck out! They left and I'm out $60 for BF and tip to mamasan.
With a hardon, I went down stairs to hunt. I found four girls eating at the restaurant in the basement and they called me over. I asked them how much and they said $200 each, I told them I only want ST and I finish quick. I offered $50 each and I will take all four of them right now. I guess it was a slow day (Monday) and they agreed. We went back up to my room.
Handling four girls at the same time was a handful. I had one sucking one licking my balls, the other two on my nipples. Then the ball sucking girl started to lick my ears. Talking about sensory overload. This went on for half an hour but they kept stopping to clean my dick each time they swap to suck. I started to lose wood after all the cold towel cleaning off my dick so I ask who will be ok with one condom fucking because I ain't going to lose wood changing condom. Two agreed and I sent the other two packing with $50 each and the two who stayed will get $100 each.
We started again with the usual dick sucking, ball licking and shit. Then I fucked two of them, switching ever so often. Then I had one girl deepthroat me and I came in her mouth.
Dec. 10.
I went to Ostex again to look but nothing caught my eye. I'm saving my money for Jakarta this Friday so I just sat and watched the street screen.
Dec. 11.
I went on a guided tour all day then came back, took a showered and went to the basement to find a girl. We agreed on $50 for short time but back in the room I asked for anal and she said $100. I think she's a ladyboy because her pussy looks a bit weird but I'm already hard so what the hell I just fucked her in the ass then came on her tits.
Overall, I don't think Cambodia is a good place to spend your money on working girls. The girls are expensive and didn't want to do anything. The good looking ones at Naga are asking $200-$300 a pop.
I've been all over the world mongering (Cuba, Colombia, Mexico, Germany, Sing, Malay, Bali.) and I think Tijuana, Mexico is the best. If you're familiar with Hong Kong club, that's my choice. Hong Kong club has plenty of girls of different shapes everyday, the cost is $100-$200 and the majority of them will listen to you. If you're really cheap, then street girls right outside of the club for $20-$40 but you have to negotiate hard: how many positions, clothes on or off, BJ or not. BTW, I don't speak Spanish but Google translate will work.
Would I go back to Cambodia again? Probably not, the government doesn't put money into tourism and has nothing to do during the day.
JohnWick6969
12-12-24, 12:51
Cambodia is not worth it for mongering anymore. It was heaven some decades ago though.
SouthEaster
12-13-24, 11:07
I t sucks big time now, although apparently not all the girls do. One of the reasons is guys like the one who posted before you. And you know what I mean.
I t sucks big time now, although apparently not all the girls do. One of the reasons is guys like the one who posted before you. And you know what I mean.Well to the previous poster who has been mongering all around the world, why are you paying them in USD? Pay them local currency. I saw an absolute stunner girl in Germany, in a resturant, I tried to pull her but she blew me out, but I did find out she was from Cambodia, and thought if they all look like her I'm going to Cambodia next. Well going by the reports Cambodia is crap then and expensive. Pity.
Watch Tower
12-16-24, 09:29
Walking around PP after dark alone is not my thing. Is it possible to barfine a gal at 3 pm on a weekday?
Suggestions for the best street and bar for early afternoon action?
I'd pay 50 + the BF for a few hours.
WintersLight
12-17-24, 00:25
Well to the previous poster who has been mongering all around the world, why are you paying them in USD? Pay them local currency...Well going by the reports Cambodia is crap then and expensive. Pity.Just a quick heads-up: I understand the suspicion of foreigners coming in and refusing to use the local currency, but in this case the USD is accepted official currency in Cambodia, and widely used even by most locals for any cash purchase over $50 US. The biggest Cambodian paper denomination is only equal to about $25, and that's the 100 k riel note, which is pretty rare to begin with. You'll usually only come across the 10 k or 20 k notes, which are just $2. 50-$5, so that's a lot of paper to be waving about and tallying up while you're paying that barfine; most bars and bargirls prefer the simplicity of the USD, as do pretty much any other business. If it's under $20 USD, then better to use riel, so a handful of drinks at a bar, or that short-term hotel / dive you're 'impressing' your new friend with, is fine.
WintersLight
12-17-24, 00:40
Finishing up another week-long visit to PP, my third trip in a year. Had tried out the bar scene on past visits (you can follow my username for those posts), but decided to check out Sky Massage Nuru this time, as it's one of the few places that offers daytime services. (Most bars don't open until 5 pm-6 pm, and don't get going until 8 pm-9 pm). This the Sky Massage nuru spot on Str 398, not to be confused with the similarly named 'Sky Massage & Sauna," on Str. 310, which I haven't been to. The one on Str 398 is more well-known now, due to its highly active Telegram channel that will feature the girls (or the heavily photoshopped / Beauty Cam'd version of them). You can use their booking channel to make an appointment, or just show up; they're in a reasonably quiet area of BKK1. (That's a neighborhood in Phnom Penh, not 'Bangkok,' BTW).
Sky Massage on Str 398 offers an all-Vietnamese staff, with prices at either $100 FS (60 min oil massage) or $130 (70 min "nuru special"), with discounted rates for just BJ or HJ. So a steep rate for the city, or compared to a nuru spot in say, Bangkok. And just in case anyone wonders: FS is part of the price, there is no uncertainty about that. I went a few days ago: made an appt by reaching out to the Telegram channel, who basically just said to come over. I arrived in afternoon, no one else seemed to be around. Huge construction site going on next door, though, with insane levels of noise. (A Mercure hotel is being built, I think). Enter through open gate facing street into an open outdoor lounge area, with a pool, bar, and lounge area. One staff member will show you a menu of prices and offer a drink, then use a walkie-talkie of all things (what is this, the 1980s?) let a girl know to get ready. There's no lineup, but they said that you can choose another girl if you don't like the one offered.
Went upstairs where another staff member escorted me into a weirdly overlarge room, where after a minute the girl arrived. I was half-expecting some middle-aged crone, figuring that the Vietnamese pros who wind up in Cambodia aren't exactly top of the line, but was surprised to see an attractive girl in her mid-20's. Good figure, nice face, lots of tattoos as is customary for Viet girls. Got everything I wanted during the session; girl wasn't into kissing at first, but soon loosened up a bit. When I started DATY, she even dragged me back to the bathroom tub so that I could eat her out without fear of getting the bed wet. We went the full 70 mins, no cutting it short or rushing, so that was nice to see. At the end she gave me her personal Telegram contact, and said she'd take me to get Vietnamese food one night.
All in all the session was a good one, but I don't think I'd repeat due to price. Main reason to come here would be for daytime action, as most of Phnom Penh p4 p activities are in the evening, when the bars open. Picking up girls at bars is about $50-$70 for short-time action, about 1-2 hours, though you also need to factor in barfine ($20'ish) and 2-3 lady drinks (another $20'ish), which works out to about $110, so about the same price as Sky Massage. But with the bargirls, you can take them back to your hotel and spend more than an hour, whereas at Sky you're always on the clock, and on their turf. And compared to Bangkok nuru or massage FS options, it's far more expensive; most Bangkok spots are about $70-$90 for one hour, unlike Sky's $100 oil or $130 nuru.
If you've got a thing for Viet girls while you're in Cambodia, though, or if you're unable to bring girls back to your hotel, it may be worthwhile. And if you can only monger in the daytime, it's one of the few games in town. However, that construction noise next door, damn. I haven't been to the Sky on Str 310, so cannot comment on its service, or what kind of girls are there.
Hope this review is somewhat useful for mongers. I'll follow up with an update on my experiences with the bar scene shortly. This time I braved the blinginess of Street 136, with some surprisingly good luck.
Philip Marlow
12-19-24, 06:07
Well to the previous poster who has been mongering all around the world, why are you paying them in USD? Pay them local currency.The dollar is the local currency. To get a visa on arrival, immigration will only take good old American dollars. It seems that the government is trying to get the KHR more widely used, but the dollar is accepted everywhere, and prices are always in USD. Sometimes USD / KHR.
<SNIP> It seems that the government is trying to get the KHR more widely used, but the dollar is accepted everywhere, and prices are always in USD. Sometimes USD / KHR.I have been working in PNH for extended periods and it's true that the government is trying to get the KHR more widely used but, as PM says, the USD is still king.
However, Grab quotes fares in KHR and I always carry plenty of both currencies. I tend to use KHR more than USD these days but there is no hard-and-fast rule.
SouthEaster
12-20-24, 10:41
The dollar (USD) IS NOT the local currency. It is widely accepted, especially for larger transactions but the Riel is the local currency. And no, prices are not always in US dollars. Get your facts straight.
SouthEaster
12-20-24, 10:47
Well Fosi my friend, you missed the golden days by about 20 years I am sorry to say. Cambodia is not crap but for mongering it is not the best destination. More beauties in VN and cheaper if you can avoid all the scams. Similar money and way more options in Thailand. Goos luck wherever you end up!
Philip Marlow
12-20-24, 15:30
The dollar (USD) IS NOT the local currency. It is widely accepted, especially for larger transactions but the Riel is the local currency. And no, prices are not always in US dollars. Get your facts straight.This is the Phnom Penh forum. The USD is the local currency there. I didn't say it is the official currency. And is absolutely accepted there, for large and small transactions. One of us has our facts wrong.
I can't recall seeing prices in only KHR there, but I'm probably wrong about that.
Watch Tower
12-20-24, 18:24
The dollar (USD) IS NOT the local currency. It is widely accepted, especially for larger transactions but the Riel is the local currency. And no, prices are not always in US dollars. Get your facts straight.The previous poster is correct. You pay for your visa on arrival with US Federal Reserve Notes to the smiling uniformed employee of the Cambodian government.
It's the de facto local currency. Bro.
Prices are in dollars every store I've been to, and I'm sure 99% of the gals will happily take a 50 or a 100.
BlackCat1971
12-26-24, 03:38
I'll be traveling in a month to Phnom Penh. I'm looking for a couple of recommendations. The first is the best club to checkout for non-pros. So amateur college girls who might be interested in normal one-night stand without paying. Just curious if there is such a place.
And then what recommendation for a place with LEGAL girls.
My experience of PP was not so good, perhaps because I had recently been in Laos where the girls were prettier, younger and slimmer. And cheaper. Yes, there are lots of beer bars in the centre of PP, all with plenty of girls sat outside, but the quality just isn't there. I paid $30-50 (+beer fine of $10-20) for a number of girls but none were amazing. It was very good to be able to take them back to my girl friendly hotel just round the corner. Knowing that the girl had handed her ID in to reception was reassuring. Reception always gave me a call before handing back the ID.
I'm not one for sitting in a bar talking to a girl, buying her lady drinks. The girls don't speak enough English anyway. I'd rather get straight in to the deed!
The street walkers along the Mekong came out later on and were nothing special and some were a bit aggressive.
2 nights was enough for me.
SouthEaster
12-27-24, 10:58
You seriously think people straight off the plane are going to have a pocket full of Riel to pay for their visa? Of course they take USD. How do you think they pay for their Range Rovers? As for dollar prices, how many times have you received US quarters, dimes and nickels back in change? Didn't think so.
I'll be traveling in a month to Phnom Penh. I'm looking for a couple of recommendations. The first is the best club to checkout for non-pros. So amateur college girls who might be interested in normal one-night stand without paying. Just curious if there is such a place.
And then what recommendation for a place with LEGAL girls.Why not do some research in the 581 pages of experiences here. .
The street walkers along the Mekong came out later on and were nothing special and some were a bit aggressive.
.You will not even get close to the Mekong; I assume you mean the streetwalkers along Tonle Sap.
Philip Marlow
12-28-24, 07:35
You seriously think people straight off the plane are going to have a pocket full of Riel to pay for their visa? Of course they take USD. How do you think they pay for their Range Rovers? As for dollar prices, how many times have you received US quarters, dimes and nickels back in change? Didn't think so.Can't argue with that.
You will not even get close to the Mekong; I assume you mean the streetwalkers along Tonle Sap.You are right. It was around 3-4 km from the Mekong.
I'll be traveling in a month to Phnom Penh. I'm looking for a couple of recommendations. The first is the best club to checkout for non-pros. So amateur college girls who might be interested in normal one-night stand without paying. Just curious if there is such a place.
And then what recommendation for a place with LEGAL girls.Lots of luck. And using the search function on this board will NOT provide the info you are seeking. So don't waste your time trying that.
It is very unlikely that you will find any Khmer uni girls up for a one night stand with a foreigner in any club. Khmer uni girls (and I know some) are not into that scene. They will go clubbing (if at all) in packs and are not likely to let their friends know they're going to go to bed with an unknown foreigner after knowing him an hour or two.
You might check out Bassac Lane; there are a few bars (somewhat "hidden") that might offer some possibilities, but not likely uni girls. Think "office" girls. Query Google or YouTube.
Sam.
I was enticed in to a MP in PP with the promise of cheap sex. In to a room, stripped down and she asked me to put my clothes in a cupboard by the bottom of the bed. Having read about this scam, I declined and asked her to get undressed too. She said "massage first" and was determined for me to put my clothes in the cupboard.
So I got dressed before starting to look inside the cupboard for the secret passage. She became very angry and I left.
It was in the central area where all the action is. I can't remember the name but I suspect that there are quite a few like this.
I always put my clothes where I can see them during the massage.
Watch Tower
12-31-24, 16:21
I'll be traveling in a month to Phnom Penh. I'm looking for a couple of recommendations. The first is the best club to checkout for non-pros. So amateur college girls who might be interested in normal one-night stand without paying. Just curious if there is such a place.
And then what recommendation for a place with LEGAL girls.You might find freelancers at clubs like Heart of Darkness or Love but free one night stands are not a thing in Cambodia.
The working gals in PP are at the least de facto legal.
KrumeLurer
12-31-24, 20:28
When reading the posts here I am just amazed at the prices asked and being paid. The big majority of wages in Cambodia is between 200 to 400 USD a month. So if we say 300 USD for a month work, then guys are paying 1/6 of a monthly wage for one time sex. Theya re paying the same as for around 4 days of work for 1 sex that might not even take one hour. That is just insane.
FilthyBeaver
12-31-24, 21:45
Out of curiosity, what's your point and why do you care what other people are doing with their hard earned money?
When reading the posts here I am just amazed at the prices asked and being paid. The big majority of wages in Cambodia is between 200 to 400 USD a month. So if we say 300 USD for a month work, then guys are paying 1/6 of a monthly wage for one time sex. Theya re paying the same as for around 4 days of work for 1 sex that might not even take one hour. That is just insane.
Watch Tower
01-01-25, 05:22
When reading the posts here I am just amazed at the prices asked and being paid. The big majority of wages in Cambodia is between 200 to 400 USD a month. So if we say 300 USD for a month work, then guys are paying 1/6 of a monthly wage for one time sex. Theya re paying the same as for around 4 days of work for 1 sex that might not even take one hour. That is just insane.In 2001 the US minimum wage was about $200/ week (for a 40 hour week) and the going rate for an hour of full service was $200.
Today in Cambodia, $50 for a few hours seems reasonable.
Cheap charlies can go to the $10 massage places which are all over town.
SouthEaster
01-01-25, 08:57
I would think it obvious. For a dirt poor country the pay for pussy rate is ridiculous. And it got that way because so many people and their "hard earned money" piss it away like drunken sailors. Not difficult to understand.
Out of curiosity, what's your point and why do you care what other people are doing with their hard earned money?Actually, the poster didn't express "care" or concern how a monger spends his money. He just gave his opinion that some amounts, in his opionion, are insane. I've never criticized or defended how much someone pays for services. But if I can help another monger new to a venue, while not duty-bound, I would not hesitate to provide my experiences if solicited. I agree that some payments are "insane", but I have no concern. Ain't coming out of my wallet. LOL.
Sam.
FilthyBeaver
01-01-25, 21:02
It's no obvious to me at all. Someone I've never met has arbitrarily set an acceptable rate to pay for the use of someone else's body and has found it necessary and / or a useful public service announcement to say anything over that amount is insane. From now on I'll just say I pay a dollar LT and watch the market fall with me.
I would think it obvious. For a dirt poor country the pay for pussy rate is ridiculous. And it got that way because so many people and their "hard earned money" piss it away like drunken sailors. Not difficult to understand.
CallSignRomeo
01-02-25, 14:01
Darling Darlin Lounge has some freelancers. Lady drinks around 10-15 $ . Normal beer rates around 10 $ . Ladies follow dynamic pricing model so it varies from time, day, client. Most of the ladies are there to serve clients from nearby East Asian country so will not go out with everyone. YMMV. Prices from 100 $ onwards. Some ex KTV ladies to be found here.
Pontoon nightclub and Love club also has some freelancers. It all depends on what you are looking for and if it fits with your requirements. Normal beer prices from $6- $ 7.
Some ladies walking riverside are rough and whilst others are lbs. No intel on other locations.
Watch Tower
01-02-25, 17:55
Pontoon nightclub and Love club also has some freelancers. It all depends on what you are looking for and if it fits with your requirements. Normal beer prices from $6- $ 7.Suggestions for the best time of day or night, and best day of the week, for Love. Pretty loud there. Do the two adjacent semi-open bars / cafes see any freelancers?
My experience of PP was not so good, perhaps because I had recently been in Laos where the girls were prettier, younger and slimmer. And cheaper. Yes, there are lots of beer bars in the centre of PP, all with plenty of girls sat outside, but the quality just isn't there. I paid $30-50 (+beer fine of $10-20) for a number of girls but none were amazing. It was very good to be able to take them back to my girl friendly hotel just round the corner. Knowing that the girl had handed her ID in to reception was reassuring. Reception always gave me a call before handing back the ID.
I'm not one for sitting in a bar talking to a girl, buying her lady drinks. The girls don't speak enough English anyway. I'd rather get straight in to the deed!
The street walkers along the Mekong came out later on and were nothing special and some were a bit aggressive.
2 nights was enough for me.Hi Stevie, I fly next week to PP, can you please give me some info, where did you stay, and hotel which is girl / joiner free without headaches? Flying first time, I understand the area is near Street 132, correct?
Many thanks.
Hi Stevie, I fly next week to PP, can you please give me some info, where did you stay, and hotel which is girl / joiner free without headaches? Flying first time, I understand the area is near Street 132, correct?
Many thanks.In case Stevie does not see your inquiry, allow me to butt in. Street 135,130, 110, and 104 are where the hostess bars are concentrated, starting from the riverside. Lux Riverside Hotel is at ground zero on St. 136, and checks the boxes you seem to want checked. Sun and Moon Hotel is also a favorite for a lot of hobbyists and is also on Street 136.
Same.
Watch Tower
01-08-25, 13:16
Hi Stevie, I fly next week to PP, can you please give me some info, where did you stay, and hotel which is girl / joiner free without headaches? Flying first time, I understand the area is near Street 132, correct?
Many thanks.Been told Gastro on 130 is a bar / hub if you're looking for a hq in the area. For hotels, a short grab car away (5 minutes tops) is Mansions and also, Raffles.
If you want a 4 or 5 star hotel experience.
Watch Tower
01-13-25, 07:39
Found this on a review site:
Phnom Penh hostess bars on Street 130.
Top hostess bars.
1 – Loco bar.
Loco and Cherries have the same friendly owner, Jim from France. The bars have a hassle-free policy and spotless toilets. There is probably the most extensive whisky collection in a hostess bar. Jim also offers excellent French wine. The bar is now open during the daytime.
2 – Cherries.
The prices are the same as in Loco Bar, but there is also an extended rum menu.
3 – Honey Pot.
Honey Pot was sold recently, but it is still worth checking. It has the same friendly service as before.
4 – Angry birds.
The friendly Australian / UK owner sold his other two bars and now owns only this bar. It's one of the best-run bars in Phnom Penh, with beautiful hostesses and a no-hassle policy. The famous Joker draw moved here after Honey Pot was sold. Lady drinks cost $5, draft beer $1. 50, and spirits $4. The barfine is $10 on weekdays and $15 on weekends. It's now open from 2 pm.
More hostess bars.
A – Wonderful Girls.
The former New Barbados Island and Barbados bar.
Be – One Three Six Bar.
The bar is definitely worth a visit. It's a lovely place with a friendly atmosphere, nice girls, and a Cambodian owner.
F – Pub 130 Bar.
The former Lolita bar.
H – Pour Hub.
Pour Hub is the former Queen Girl and has a friendly owner. The girls are nice, and they often dance on the bar.
K – Ponytails.
They have a lot of girls and a pool table. Lady drinks cost $4. 50 and no drink pressure; spirits are $3. 50, and promo draft beer is only $0. 75.
https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/phnom-penh-hostess-bars/
Philip Marlow
01-15-25, 05:01
Found this on a review site:
Phnom Penh hostess bars on Street 130.
Top hostess bars.
https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/phnom-penh-hostess-bars/That is some seriously good information. Thanks for posting it and providing the link.
Found this on a review site:
Phnom Penh hostess bars on Street 130.
Top hostess bars.
1 Loco bar.
Loco and Cherries have the same friendly owner, Jim from France. The bars have a hassle-free policy and spotless toilets. There is probably the most extensive whisky collection in a hostess bar. Jim also offers excellent French wine. The bar is now open during the daytime.
2 Cherries.
The prices are the same as in Loco Bar, but there is also an extended rum menu.
3 Honey Pot.
Honey Pot was sold recently, but it is still worth checking. It has the same friendly service as before.
4 Angry birds.
The friendly Australian / UK owner sold his other two bars and now owns only this bar. It's one of the best-run bars in Phnom Penh, with beautiful hostesses and a no-hassle policy. The famous Joker draw moved here after Honey Pot was sold. Lady drinks cost $5, draft beer $1. 50, and spirits $4. The barfine is $10 on weekdays and $15 on weekends. It's now open from 2 pm.
More hostess bars.
A Wonderful Girls.
The former New Barbados Island and Barbados bar.
Be One Three Six Bar.
The bar is definitely worth a visit. It's a lovely place with a friendly atmosphere, nice girls, and a Cambodian owner.
F Pub 130 Bar.
The former Lolita bar.
H Pour Hub.
Pour Hub is the former Queen Girl and has a friendly owner. The girls are nice, and they often dance on the bar.
K Ponytails.
They have a lot of girls and a pool table. Lady drinks cost $4. 50 and no drink pressure; spirits are $3. 50, and promo draft beer is only $0. 75.
https://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/phnom-penh-hostess-bars/And the girls? How much is ST (1-2 hours) and LT (overnight)?
NRandom940
01-23-25, 22:01
My experience of PP was not so good, perhaps because I had recently been in Laos where the girls were prettier, younger and slimmer. And cheaper. Yes, there are lots of beer bars in the centre of PP, all with plenty of girls sat outside, but the quality just isn't there. I paid $30-50 (+beer fine of $10-20) for a number of girls but none were amazing. It was very good to be able to take them back to my girl friendly hotel just round the corner. Knowing that the girl had handed her ID in to reception was reassuring. Reception always gave me a call before handing back the ID.
I'm not one for sitting in a bar talking to a girl, buying her lady drinks. The girls don't speak enough English anyway. I'd rather get straight in to the deed!
The street walkers along the Mekong came out later on and were nothing special and some were a bit aggressive.
2 nights was enough for me.I know this isn't the Laos forum, but where did you look in Laos? Only place I could find was a hotel massage place with $60 usd Viet girls.
It's no obvious to me at all. Someone I've never met has arbitrarily set an acceptable rate to pay for the use of someone else's body and has found it necessary and / or a useful public service announcement to say anything over that amount is insane. From now on I'll just say I pay a dollar LT and watch the market fall with me.The simple economic theory of supply and demand. You pay for services rendered. If you pay premium money for a regular / average service. Thats on you. But smart it is certainly not.
Watch Tower
01-26-25, 16:45
And the girls? How much is ST (1-2 hours) and LT (overnight)?Reading a few pages would inform you the rate is 50 to 100 for girls not bright enough to print a hotel card and use email.
BrownMickey
01-29-25, 10:16
Arrived in Phnom Penh at 7 pm, in the streets by 10. Did a few rounds of 136,130 and 118 to check out the vibe. They run parallel and it's not a long walk.
All are lined up with bars, girls standing outside, screaming to get you inside (the bar.
Leveraged the hard-work of previous mongers on this forum, take a bow folks!
Entered Wow and Amazing, similar setup. Couches laid out, pick a girl to sit and drink or just walk out. I chose the latter.
Meanwhile, switched on people nearby on wechat and voila, tons of Vietnamese beauties showed up. Sent everyone a Hi and moved on.
Next entered Croco. Girls dancing on the poles, $2 for a draft. Took a seat, two girls swooped right, in one on left and one on right. Sadly none caught my eye. They tried their best but I skimped on that lady drink even though it was just $5. Finished the beer and out.
Just realized almost all the wechat girls had replied. Soon realized the pattern. They will start at $200 for night, you negotiate to whatever works (I usually prefer not to negotiate with working girls but had to understand the laws of the land here). They won't video call, what a bummer, it has been such a saver for TF in Thailand. Meet me downstairs and if you don't like, I will go back, is what they all say. Finally narrowed down on a fairly pretty one for $70 short time (2-3 boom boom). Told her to meet outside the hotel first. She was quick to arrive and went to the lobby. Damn! She was quite off her prime as seen in pics. I said a polite sorry and she asked politely for taxi money $10. I wanted her out of the lobby ASAP so handed her the money and off she went.
In the streets again, and a cute one outside a small bar (forgot the name, will check out today) caught my eye. Couch setting, got her a beer $5, manager pulled the curtains and she was all over me, teasing with all her might. Took her to the hotel after a drink ($50 for 2-3 boom boom, $20 bar fine). Short walk to the hotel, in the room, a rushed round one and long satisfying round 2 later, escorted her out. Value for money experience. Hungry, back in streets, ate some noodles. It was around 2 am and the vibe was much livelier so walked some more. A stunning one outside Alaska (136) asked $100 for short time. Tempted, but also smelled a dead-fish inside her. Decided to call it a night.
First impression- Maybe Phnom Penh doesn't deserve all that hate. Could be a seeker's paradise, and maybe seeking is where the real fun is anyway. What do I know though, still my first day. Maybe I paid more at times, or maybe I skimped where it wasn't needed. Lets see how tomorrow goes, too many bars to check. I seek and I may find.
BTW, I do plan to try out a few more VN girls from wechat. They are too stunning to give up on, that easily. Maybe will talk first about the taxi money. Or maybe will charge a few more $10 bills to experience.
Watch Tower
01-29-25, 18:10
Arrived in Phnom Penh at 7 pm, in the streets by 10. Did a few rounds of 136,130 and 118 to check out the vibe. They run parallel and it's not a long walk.
All are lined up with bars, girls standing outside, screaming to get you inside (the bar.
Leveraged the hard-work of previous mongers on this forum, take a bow folks!
Entered Wow and Amazing, similar setup. Couches laid out, pick a girl to sit and drink or just walk out. I chose the latter.
Meanwhile, switched on people nearby on wechat and voila, tons of Vietnamese beauties showed up. Sent everyone a Hi and moved on.
Next entered Croco. Girls dancing on the poles, $2 for a draft. Took a seat, two girls swooped right, in one on left and one on right. Sadly none caught my eye. They tried their best but I skimped on that lady drink even though it was just $5. Finished the beer and out.
Just realized almost all the wechat girls had replied. Soon realized the pattern. They will start at $200 for night, you negotiate to whatever works (I usually prefer not to negotiate with working girls but had to understand the laws of the land here). They won't video call, what a bummer, it has been such a saver for TF in Thailand. Meet me downstairs and if you don't like, I will go back, is what they all say. Finally narrowed down on a fairly pretty one for $70 short time (2-3 boom boom). Told her to meet outside the hotel first. She was quick to arrive and went to the lobby. Damn! She was quite off her prime as seen in pics. I said a polite sorry and she asked politely for taxi money $10. I wanted her out of the lobby ASAP so handed her the money and off she went.
In the streets again, and a cute one outside a small bar (forgot the name, will check out today) caught my eye. Couch setting, got her a beer $5, manager pulled the curtains and she was all over me, teasing with all her might. Took her to the hotel after a drink ($50 for 2-3 boom boom, $20 bar fine). Short walk to the hotel, in the room, a rushed round one and long satisfying round 2 later, escorted her out. Value for money experience. Hungry, back in streets, ate some noodles. It was around 2 am and the vibe was much livelier so walked some more. A stunning one outside Alaska (136) asked $100 for short time. Tempted, but also smelled a dead-fish inside her. Decided to call it a night.
First impression- Maybe Phnom Penh doesn't deserve all that hate. Could be a seeker's paradise, and maybe seeking is where the real fun is anyway. What do I know though, still my first day. Maybe I paid more at times, or maybe I skimped where it wasn't needed. Lets see how tomorrow goes, too many bars to check. I seek and I may find.
BTW, I do plan to try out a few more VN girls from wechat. They are too stunning to give up on, that easily. Maybe will talk first about the taxi money. Or maybe will charge a few more $10 bills to experience.On wechat, they're replying in English, viet or chinse?
BrownMickey
01-30-25, 08:32
On wechat, they're replying in English, viet or chinse?Mostly viet, replying in English. There is a similar pattern to the replies though. A handful of Chinese too but I guess they are also traveling.
BrownMickey
01-30-25, 17:45
Phnom Penh is so boring in the day. The palace, the temple, the market and I was done.
Lying by the pool, sipping a beer, the itch for Vietnamese beauties started again so I decided to give it another shot. Fixed a short time for $75,2 boom boom. Told her I won't even pay for taxi if she is not the same. I was waiting outside and she arrived in a tuk tuk. A totally different person and definitely not my type. Sent her back. No more viet hunting on wechat, just a waste of time.
A few more beers at the hotel pool, followed by a sumptuous cambo meal. By 10, I was out for hunt again. At 10.30, Pontoon and Heart of Darkness were both quite dead. Seems still early, so back to the streets.
Saw the same cutie from last night outside the bar, Lucifer is the name. Quickly waved her a goodbye. The office was mostly empty, same for Baccara. Entered pourhub and decided to finally sit down and have a beer atleast, $2 for draft. Quickly a number of girls came by, asked a cutie to join. Lady drink for $5, got her one. She was quick with her hands, getting straight to the bulging thingy in my pants. Quickly moved from bar stools to the couch. And Damn these girls drink fast, she asked for another, I got her another. She was up for going back to the hotel but I wanted to venture out more. Paid by $12.5 and out.
Checked out a few more bars, had a few more beers, paid a few more lady drinks and in hindsight, yes, they do add up. Entered Charlie Chans, they had a $2 draft promo, mamasan brought a few girls but none caught my eye, so I sipped my beer when a petite cutie dancing at the pole caught my eye. Asked her over, offered her a drink, $6 for lady drink, relatively steep huh. Told me she is new, but was a solid kisser, seals the deal for me. Took her back to the hotel, $50 for short time, $20 bar fine. A good round 1 and a splendid round 2. At one point, she was ok with me going in without protection, but sanity prevailed. Though for ones who like it raw, cambo girls seem game for it.
At one point, I felt like asking her to stay the night. But then I rarely do that. Takes a lot more for me to share my bed while I sleep.
Off she went and a few minutes later, I was back in the streets. A few more bars, a few more lady drinks, a lot of good time in the couch, but decided to not take anyone back. Decided to call it a night.
Reflections from Day 2. Too many bars but quality is scarce, if you like one, get her. I personally enjoy the old school grind, but after a couple of days it might lose its charm, quality is scarce. Let's see.
Heading to Koh Rong tomorrow. Serenity, beaches and water sports are my thing too. Will be back in Phnom Penh for another night before flying back to Shanghai. Will report!
First impression- Maybe Phnom Penh doesn't deserve all that hate. Could be a seeker's paradise, and maybe seeking is where the real fun is anyway. What do I know though, still my first day. Maybe I paid more at times, or maybe I skimped where it wasn't needed. Lets see how tomorrow goes, too many bars to check. I seek and I may find.
PP doesn't deserve the "hate". Been coming here since 1999 and the scene has changed a lot. Some good, some bad. Today is my 3rd day here in PP. Haven't got past checking out the 136 bars so far. Sorry to read Wow and Amazing didn't have anything appealing to Mickey. I'll have to check it out just for drill. So far, I liked Xanadu. Past visits didn't disappoint and current line up has more than enough girls from which to choose. Some are very "hands on" and not adverse to diddling at the bar. Surprised they only wanted short time. Didn't negotiate because I don't normally do short time except for an afternoon session. Lady drinks were "only" $3. 50. My Angkor draft was $2. 50 In my opinion. Good line up.
A number of reports have noted that many stores, bars and restaurants are refusing to accept some US bills unless "new" or almost pristine condition. It is really ridiculous. For the fourth night out of 5, I went to a bar in which I spent an average of $60. Not a huge amount, but considering there is a 10 to 1 ratio of hostesses to customers at most bars (and few customers).
Last night I decided to move on. Offer up 3 20's. Only one was acceptable to the cashier. Finally, the manager / mamasan intervened. She accepted them by changing from her personal bag. I should note that she is a definite 9 or 10 on anybody's scale. Ha ha ha.
Tonight I will put down 3 $20 bills before ordering and ask if acceptable. If they reject, I will promptly leave. Report to follow. If enough patrons do this, the word will spread.
Sam.
A number of reports have noted that many stores, bars and restaurants are refusing to accept some US bills unless "new" or almost pristine condition. It is really ridiculous. For the fourth night out of 5, I went to a bar in which I spent an average of $60. Not a huge amount, but considering there is a 10 to 1 ratio of hostesses to customers at most bars (and few customers).
Last night I decided to move on. Offer up 3 20's. Only one was acceptable to the cashier. Finally, the manager / mamasan intervened. She accepted them by changing from her personal bag. I should note that she is a definite 9 or 10 on anybody's scale. Ha ha ha.
Tonight I will put down 3 $20 bills before ordering and ask if acceptable. If they reject, I will promptly leave. Report to follow. If enough patrons do this, the word will spread.
Sam.This is a problem in China also. Easy to avoid! Just inspect the bills before trying to us them. I take $100 dollar bills to China on my multiple trips and always change them for RMB at a bank. But recently I have been using my debit card at a bank ATM which works well. Maybe the exchange rate is not perfect but, for me, it avoids any hassle for a few RMB more or less. What is a much bigger hassle is the P4 P rates have really increased, but I only do KTV for entertainment and will reduce my participation accordingly.
Watch Tower
02-03-25, 19:16
This is a problem in China also. Easy to avoid! Just inspect the bills before trying to us them. I take $100 dollar bills to China on my multiple trips and always change them for RMB at a bank. But recently I have been using my debit card at a bank ATM which works well. Maybe the exchange rate is not perfect but, for me, it avoids any hassle for a few RMB more or less. What is a much bigger hassle is the P4 P rates have really increased, but I only do KTV for entertainment and will reduce my participation accordingly.The US dollar is widely accepted everywhere in Cambodia. The problem is about 10% of the people enjoy nitpicking if the bill has a slight fold. 90% don't care but the 10% seem to really enjoy being jerks about it.
TravelBless
02-03-25, 23:24
Hi guys heading for Phnom Phen in May. Was looking for a girl friendly hotel near not far from the nightlife area.
Stayed in Citrus Sukhumvit 11 By Compass Hospitality last Year in Bangkok which was very good.
This is a problem in China also. Easy to avoid! Just inspect the bills before trying to us them. I take $100 dollar bills to China on my multiple trips and always change them for RMB at a bank. But recently I have been using my debit card at a bank ATM which works well. Maybe the exchange rate is not perfect but, for me, it avoids any hassle for a few RMB more or less. What is a much bigger hassle is the P4 P rates have really increased, but I only do KTV for entertainment and will reduce my participation accordingly.Using a local ATM is certainly an option. Updating my previous. Before ordering I put down 3 20's before ordering at the same bar. Bar manager said they checked my bills at the bank from the night before and determined that my dollars were good. No need to check in future.
Off to BKK tomorrow, not anticipating the same problem. Ha ha ha.
Sam.
Hi guys heading for Phnom Phen in May. Was looking for a girl friendly hotel near not far from the nightlife area.
Stayed in Citrus Sukhumvit 11 By Compass Hospitality last Year in Bangkok which was very good.Lux Riverside, Harmony, Sun & Moon, all good and in the middle.
BrownMickey
02-07-25, 05:26
Hi guys heading for Phnom Phen in May. Was looking for a girl friendly hotel near not far from the nightlife area.
Stayed in Citrus Sukhumvit 11 By Compass Hospitality last Year in Bangkok which was very good.I stayed in Sun & Moon Urban Hotel, just a few days ago. It's right there on street 136 where the action lies. Decent price, good facilities, no issued with bringing guests plus the rooftop pool is nice. There is another Sun & Moon so be careful when booking. Heard that Lux riverside is also great, also right there in the middle of action, maybe will try next time.
Watch Tower
02-07-25, 14:41
Was told on another board that 5 pm is "hooker rush hour" and he knows someone who pulls freelancers from Gastro all the time.
Went there on a Friday at 5 pm and there were the usual veteran girls across the street and next door on 130.
But in Gastro, a sausage fest plus 1 or 2 couples. No freelance part time grey semi-pros.
Hi folks, The last time I visited Phnom Penh was pre-covid. I recall there was a French bakery in the main drag, that I enjoyed visiting in the morning.
They had French news papers and French coffee and pastries. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of that place.
Anybody knows of similar places? Thanks a lot.
Hi folks, The last time I visited Phnom Penh was pre-covid. I recall there was a French bakery in the main drag, that I enjoyed visiting in the morning.
They had French news papers and French coffee and pastries. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of that place.
Anybody knows of similar places? Thanks a lot.Probably Eric Kayser's but there are a few others.
Check out this link https://wanderlog.com/list/geoCategory/43655/les-meilleures-boulangeries-fran%C3%A7aises-%C3%A0-phnom-penh.
I stayed in Sun & Moon Urban Hotel, just a few days ago. It's right there on street 136 where the action lies. Decent price, good facilities, no issued with bringing guests plus the rooftop pool is nice. There is another Sun & Moon so be careful when booking. Heard that Lux riverside is also great, also right there in the middle of action, maybe will try next time.Yeah here for my 4th visit. Each time stayed at this Sun & Moon on St. 136. Great spot.
Pulled a sweet little spinner from Alaska Bar last night, for the first night. She was awesome.
Anyone know of an inexpensive breakfast in this area? Spoiled by Pattaya's $3 breakfasts all over town.
Also: got some friends down on Street 78 in an AirBnB. Any good action down that way?
Got some friends down on Street 78 in an AirBnB. Any good action down that way?I always stay in the Bridge Apartments on Street 78 on my frequent business trips.
Chinatown central but OK for me.
I get a cheap tuktuk up to the bars on Riverside (Street 136 etc) but there are a few massage places close by St 78 (Bassac Lane especially).
Your friends might like to try Nagaworld just a short walk away. Darlin' Darlin' nightclub has worked for me in the past if you don't let the women rip you off.
Barter hard and rewards are possible.
Quick report on my first night back after 2 weeks in Bangkok (since nobody else has posted here lately and maybe something is better than nothing).
I hit only 3 bars last night. Pussy Cat, 69, and Xanadu. ALL had a lot of mutual gropping between some customers and some hostesses. Personally had my dick massaged in each joint while grabbing some bare titty.
All three bars had a spectrum of chicks, but I didn't see any elephant-sized damsels.
Lowest price draft was $1. 75 and lowest was $3. 50 for a lady drink. Most lady drinks run $5.
Didn't ask barfine price, but I suspect it was $15 for a weekend night.
Did a "drive by" of Amazing and Wow bars and confirm another posters dismal report. Neither Amazing nor worthy of a Wow. Disappointing line up outside with loads of thirsty girls who are not ready for prime time.
Sam.
TravelToLove
02-23-25, 06:40
Sun & Moon is shit. ID nazis at the counter.
SouthEaster
02-24-25, 11:34
Those ID nazis just may save your ass sometime. You do not want to be the victim of some scam with a 17 year old with fake ID.
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