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NanaHawk
11-27-07, 20:10
I have been to Phnom Penh for a few times.

Damage: USD100


Hi there Lvr,

Was this a typo? You really meant $10, right?

I have heard the girls claim to be paid $50 and more and always thought the punter must be drunk or something.

Why would you pay so much for what you claim to be poor service?

I really am interested why someone who has been to Phnom Penh previously would still think it right to pay so much money.

Hawk

NanaHawk
11-27-07, 20:16
Just a quick little update. Visited the following last night;

Bar 136; The bar was PUMPING !! Stacks of chicks. Stacks of guys and basically a great night ! Had a handjob at the bar from my special little friend.Definately a favourite now.

Home drunk as hell around....er.....not sure!

LS
Hi LS,

good to hear that you are having fun. After reading Lvr's piece I have ask how much you gave the poor little thing for the service at the bar, this is certainly not the normal service to be provided.

I don't think that is why the tissues are provided though.

I was going to ask where, at the bar, you were sat, but have decided that it is best not to know!!

Hawk

P.S. if that is what you use the tissues for may I ask what you did with the pea-nuts?

Lvr37
11-27-07, 22:46
He is referring to Shanghai KTV, NOT Shanghai Bar. Shanghai KTV is a more upmarket KTV joints near Phnom Penh hotel, with rows of girls, mostly Vietnamese, to choose from. The girl will accompany you for drinks inside a KARAOKE ROOM and the establishment charge USD6 per girl for them to accompany you in the KTV room to drink and sing song the whole night. But you are still expected to tip the girl USD5 to USD10 when you leave without her AND if you are taking her back for overnight, it is USD50, standard market rate. Heineken is USD3 to 3. 5 per can and Johnnie Walker Black Label is USD35 excluding mixer, which is charged on per can basis. The girls can speak Mandarin and Cantonese as the clientele are mostly Malaysia, Singaporean although the occasional Cambodian, Japanese and Koreans and the girls are mostly Vietnamese precisely because of these reasons. Most Vietnamese girls have fair skin!

Similar type of KTV include CASA, Mega, 99.

In fact, these KTVs are considered mid-range in term of pricing of drinks, girls, rooms etc as there are KTVs that cater exclusively to rich Cambodians that charge room by the hour with even higher prices for drinks. Example, ROCK KTV, X2, X0.

From Asian's point of view, the quality of the girls there are of course, mostly better than girls that you can find in Walkabout, Martini, Cycree. Fill in the blanks. And other pick-up joints in the mostly Westerner scene where the standard market rate is USD15 to USD30, all inclusive.

I hope this clear things up.Thank you for the explanation,Cowboy Brew . It was exactly the situation.

Fast Eddie 48
11-27-07, 23:52
Hi there Lvr,

Was this a typo? You really meant $10, right?

I have heard the girls claim to be paid $50 and more and always thought the punter must be drunk or something.

Why would you pay so much for what you claim to be poor service?

I really am interested why someone who has been to Phnom Penh previously would still think it right to pay so much money.

HawkNanahawk,

That is highend KTV price 100 USD is for russian rare in PP , I know that is high but the guy can afford it more power to him , everything is going up here and $10 p4p is getting harder and harder to find .

Fast eddie 48

Ekspat
11-28-07, 02:34
I too am a bit startled at the idea of anyone paying $50.
Was this a joke?
Maybe because of the USD depreciation?
Some days ago USD was called a worthless piece of paper.
I don't see it that extreme, but it's some truth or tendency in it.

Cheers!

AncntFornicatr
11-29-07, 00:24
Hi there Ancient One,

the Flamingo can be contacted here,

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Thanks to everyone for the Flamingo address. I got booked in for three weeks in February. Looking forward to catching up on all I have been missing since last year.

Will spend a few weeks in LOS visiting some friends as well as a bit of mongering but expect PP to be a better venue.

THANX
AF

Dinghy
11-29-07, 22:54
$50 is at least 3X what it was worth. The $$ is their defacto currency. Pay what you want - the rest of us will have to suffer later...

Robarts
11-30-07, 07:39
US$ 20 LT, US$10 ST. All of us need to stick to this. The girls are happy with this arrangement. Buckle up and have some fun in PP (the good times capital of the world). Will be over visiting again late feb/early march and am going to go downstairs right now and cross off another day on the count down calander. Can't wait to get there! Take care and I hope to bump into some of you for a beer or fifty when I get there. Have fun and be good(ish).

Cowboy Brew
11-30-07, 11:14
US$ 20 LT, US$10 ST. All of us need to stick to this. The girls are happy with this arrangement. Buckle up and have some fun in PP (the good times capital of the world). Will be over visiting again late feb/early march and am going to go downstairs right now and cross off another day on the count down calander. Can't wait to get there! Take care and I hope to bump into some of you for a beer or fifty when I get there. Have fun and be good(ish).Such comment and the rest that followed immediately after my post explaining the differences and the asian scene and the western scene seem to indicate that my explanation is either ignored or unappreciated. Please go back and read my post before commenting but remember the two scenes are different.

The girls in the KTV I have described will not even entertain you and negotiate if you want to go below usd50. They may be willing to go lower if they already knew you beforehand and you are a returned customer.

Please do bear in mind, this is not the usual scene where the westerners go in, sit on a stool on a bar, order a beer, look around, chat up the bargirls or freelancers and negotiate the price. The prices in that scene is still pretty much the same since 2000. Usd10 st, usd20 to 30 lt.

Shanghai bar is part of that scene.

Shanghai KTV is not! The whole modus operandi of the mid-range KTV in Cambodia have remain the same pretty much since they were opened. They have never been willing to go with customers at usd10 st. In fact, the customers tip the girls usd10 just for sitting with them, drinking, chatting, dancing in the KTV room and the tip is standard and non-negotiable. There are a few less popular outlets that will accept usd5 but rarely.

Let me ask all of you who blindly comment one simple questions? Have you guys ever been to one any of those KTV I have mentioned?

The two scenes are different. I am sure you all agree in most countries, there are different scenes of p2p with different level of pricing. The price of streetwalker is different from brothels and those from upmarket escorts anywhere in the world and. Some of you seem to assume the phnom penh is still a shithole like it was before in the early 90s and that everywhere is the same, one size fits all.

As to the comparison of the quality of girls in the western bar scene and the KTV scene, it is a matter of personal taste but ask any asians this side of the world, including Cambodians and the preference will be toward girls in the KTV regardless of whether they can afford or willing to pay that price. And as to variety, the mid-range ktvs definitely have more girls.

Go ahead, patronise a upmarket Cambodian KTV like x2 and the rock. No, the girls in there are definitely not happy with these so-called "arrangement". They will probably ask you to fuck off.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Cowa Banga
11-30-07, 19:01
Robarts,

You are kind of right about your price structure. If you shop only at the Martini's, Sharky's or anything western style bar, those are the prices. However, in my opinion, the girls there aren't very pretty compared to other places.

Cowa Banga
12-01-07, 05:09
Cowboy,

Most of the guys on this board are westerners so they have a certain paradigm when it comes to mongering. For many of them, women are all the same so why pay a higher price for the same thing? Like you, I believe there are many levels of beauty which warrants a different price structure.

I have a story about pizza which relates to taste and perhpas women. When I was in college, my roommate was from NY who loved his pizza. He asked me where he could get decent pizza so I took him to my favorite pizza joint. Well, he wasn't impressed at all. That summer, I visited him in NY. We went drinking, girl hunting, and he took me to a 'real' pizza joint around his neighborhood. In my opinion, it was just like CA pizza. What is the point of this story? For most Cali boys, pizza is pizza while a New Yorker will tell you differently.

Gangles
12-01-07, 12:47
Pharmacies

I needed to buy some unusual medications, so I got a recommendation from a local friend and went to Pharmacie de la Gare, corner Moniving boulevard and Str 106. Very professional operation.

Second best I #50, Str 136, similarly professional.

There is a cluster of pharmacies around Str 51 and Str 136, all seem to have a good range of stock.

None of the above stocked Vardenafil, the generic for Levitra.

AncntFornicatr
12-01-07, 21:46
Cowboy,

For most Cali boys, pizza is pizza while a New Yorker will tell you differently.

CB

While I agree that pizza is pizza I can't agree that pussy is pussy. There is definitely good, better and best. And on rare occasions I must admit there is bad.:-)

Cowa Banga
12-02-07, 04:03
Ancientsan,

I agree when it comes to trim. There is OK, good, and great trim hence the price structure. However, there is a shit of load of guys who go to Pattaya who will tell you differently. In my view, if wasn't for the tourists, ugly Thai women wouldn't get laid.

Cam Bodia
12-02-07, 05:42
Hey Guys if anybody is in PP at the moment you have got to try this girl out you will find her in Cyrcee her names Mailin mid 20s good body quite pretty face.

But wow I went upstairs with her and man she was a right horny and dirty little ***** she started off with a BBBJ, then ar I was so horny I thought I would come their and then, so I told her I had enough pleasure now it was her turn I ddp her It was amazing an experience I will never forget, infact I am planning my next trip very soon just to see her.

So go on guys go into le cyrcee and give her a right old rodgering from me, This girl just loves sex.

Let me know what you think.

PinkPearl
12-02-07, 08:53
CB

While I agree that pizza is pizza I can't agree that pussy is pussy. There is definitely good, better and best. And on rare occasions I must admit there is bad.:-)No doubt. Like it has been said:

"No need to tell em anything. Giving head on demand should be a requirement for any woman.

And it should be killer head, not just good head. But how do you know the difference if you ain't ever had either?"

Cam Bodia
12-03-07, 22:44
I am thinking about staying at the Sunway on my next trip to pp does anybody know if this hotel is girl friendly, please let me know.

Cepu19
12-04-07, 11:19
I am thinking about staying at the Sunway on my next trip to pp does anybody know if this hotel is girl friendly, please let me know.Yes - I don't really know too many hotels that are not.

Csun213
12-05-07, 05:06
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.

I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.

Fast Eddie 48
12-05-07, 08:02
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.

I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.Csun213,

Dragon air have 2 flight a day to PP they are own by cathay pacific you might able to book a flight in the US from SFO to PP with stop over in HKG .there are also many air line from Bangkok cheap airline like airasia cost only 120 usd round trip .

Fast eddie 48

Cepu19
12-05-07, 09:09
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.

I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.Dragon Air and Siem Reip air have a direct service from HK to Phnom Penh. China Southern Air also have a service from Guangzhou.

THe PP airport web site tells you which services arrive and depart - http://www.cambodia-airports.com/phnompenh/en/info.asp?region=int&type=arr&timetables=go%21

JeanClaude
12-05-07, 15:09
Dragon Air has driect flights HK-PP.

Phantomtiger2
12-06-07, 01:42
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.

I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.


Not sure how long you plan to be in HK but I found the easiest and cheapest way to go onward to Cambo is by booking a "package" deal with the tons of travel agencies in HK. Many times (especially in off -season) these packages=include flight and hotels in 4 stars, and transport cost just a little more than booking a RT flight on your own. But these packages usually will include 1 or more destinations as a tour with a set # of days. If you only want to go to a specific place with specific # of days in just that destination then you may not have any other option than booking a RT ticket on your own. Even so, sometimes the HK travel agents can often find cheaper last minute tickets than you can book on your own.
Hope this helps.


PT

Csun213
12-06-07, 07:23
Thanks guys for all the information. I will look into them. Thanks again.

Cepu19
12-06-07, 11:22
Looked at the prices it is very expensive from HK to PP. You might find Airasia from Sezhen to BBK and to PP may be cheaper.,

Daddy San
12-06-07, 19:54
Hi guys,

I'll be in PP & SR in February/March for a week and this forum provides great info.
The US$ seems to be the de-facto mongering currency.

Do you carry a wad of small $-bills around? $5 denominations seem to be appropriate.

If so, do you bring them from the USA, or where do you get them?

Do the ATMs dispense US$?

Do the bars/hotels/restaurants/shops/banks give out change in US$?

I am from Europe, have 'enough' US$ for my mongering needs, but it's all in 20$ bills. I don't want to start an inflation, so how do I get it changed?

Thanks for your input.

Lee66
12-07-07, 07:21
you can change them at banks(wait in line) or at mony changers around markets also everyone uses us dollars. use $20bill to pay at restaraunts , etc will give change in usd. taxi drivers and motos (NEVER have change). always give them correct amount 2000 riel for motos.

Daddy San
12-07-07, 08:54
@ Lee66: Thanks for your reply .

I have another, more delicate question.

Occasionally, I like to enjoy backdoor fun (strictly hetero!).

From reports here, I undestand that it is sometimes available. I also understand that everything needs be negotiated upfront, to avoid 'misundestandings' later.

Given the probable language problems, a delicate broaching of the subject will not be possible.

A blunt and direct approach like 'hi beautifull, my name is John, will you let me do your ass?' will put the lady off straight away. Is it a no-no in Khmer culture?

So how to go about it?

Cepu19
12-07-07, 09:01
Money can be a bit messy in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh the economy is in both riel and dollars although more so in dollars for tourists. In the more remote areas it is much more in riel.

I usually have my money in three different places. One for larger denominations dollars which I change in resturants etc (or in regional areas moneychangers/ gold shops).

I have a vat of 1 and 5 dollar notes for bits and pieces

Finalyl i keep the riel for tips, and moto drivers.

I often end up with packs of 100 riels (they do have 50 riel but no one seem to like them) which I keep seperate again for beggars etc.

If dollar notes are the least bit damaged you may have problems passing them off. On the other hand the riel notes are sometimes so torn you cannot read them without problems.

Cepu19
12-08-07, 02:43
@ Lee66: Thanks for your reply .

I have another, more delicate question.

Occasionally, I like to enjoy backdoor fun (strictly hetero!).

From reports here, I undestand that it is sometimes available. I also understand that everything needs be negotiated upfront, to avoid 'misundestandings' later.

Given the probable language problems, a delicate broaching of the subject will not be possible.

A blunt and direct approach like 'hi beautifull, my name is John, will you let me do your ass?' will put the lady off straight away. Is it a no-no in Khmer culture?

So how to go about it?The culture is universal. Show $10 point to the arse and the deal will be done. If you are an arse fucker then it is probably the simplest way to do it. Don't kid yourself the $ are the key in the transaction any turn off by too direct questioning will be solved by the willingness to pay the going fee.

Seriously I seems harder to get good anal in Cambo but absulutely not impossible. The girls seems a bit more shy at least the Khmers. Sophies had a few which were three holers.

It has always been a bit take it or leave it for me as there seems to be perfectly good alternatives only millimeters away.

Fast Eddie 48
12-08-07, 04:32
Money can be a bit messy in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh the economy is in both riel and dollars although more so in dollars for tourists. In the more remote areas it is much more in riel.

I usually have my money in three different places. One for larger denominations dollars which I change in resturants etc (or in regional areas moneychangers/ gold shops).

I have a vat of 1 and 5 dollar notes for bits and pieces

Finalyl i keep the riel for tips, and moto drivers.

I often end up with packs of 100 riels (they do have 50 riel but no one seem to like them) which I keep seperate again for beggars etc.

If dollar notes are the least bit damaged you may have problems passing them off. On the other hand the riel notes are sometimes so torn you cannot read them without problems.Cepu,

Most business and moto driver prefer usd or thai baht because riel is not a stale currency ,I carry 20 bht bill for moto driver One dollar usd is too much for short trip ,most business give you change in riel even they have usd on hand give you bull shit like no have .

Fast eddie 48

Sunlion X
12-15-07, 08:53
I've emailed the flamingo twice, and got back some auto computer message. Asking if I was a real person or if its spam. Tonite I tryed to call the phone # off the website. (855) 23 221640 and I get a message that it not working.

I would like to stay there again. If any you guys are staying there please give Mr. Kim a shout, to checkout his email from Mr. Chris. Or maybe you have a phone # thats works.

Thanks

PinkPearl
12-15-07, 10:59
Hi All,

I would like let all of you know. Currently, Cambodia and Thai Goverment has agreed to use one visa for Western visitor to both coutries. I think. They going to operate early next year.

OH, don't forget me if you need taxi driver.

CheerYes, this week the Bangkok post reported the same thing.

The article stated the purpose being to increase tourism.

Redfield10
12-15-07, 19:15
I am going to visit Siem Reap and PP in Feb. My first time in Cambodia. Can anyone tell me the best flight to take from SR to PP? Is there just one airline flying that roure? I see Siem Reap airways. Any others?

Thanks.

You can PM me if you want.

Channy
12-15-07, 19:28
Hi All,

I would like let all of you know. Currently, Cambodia and Thai Goverment has agreed to use one visa for Western visitor to both coutries. I think. They going to operate early next year.

OH, don't forget me if you need taxi driver.

CheerI heard about this from 2 years and nothing appeared. Unfortunatly.

It will be a good thing for boosted the tourism in Cambodia, avoiding the corrupted immigration officers operated at thai/Cambodian borders. But the big question is: the same visa for Thailand and Cambodia? Which mean 1 month to spend between Cambodia and Thailand? 1 months for visited 2 country. So few it can be ok for a short trip in angkor. But for the rest of the country?

Redfield10
12-15-07, 19:30
Where is a good place to stay in PP that is close to action and is fairly nice. I don't mind paying 25-30 bucks for a decent place, etc. Will o nly be there two nights. Oh, close enough to museum, tour things, too. Thanks.

Fast Eddie 48
12-16-07, 04:12
I am going to visit Siem Reap and PP in Feb. My first time in Cambodia. Can anyone tell me the best flight to take from SR to PP? Is there just one airline flying that roure? I see Siem Reap airways. Any others?

Thanks.Redfield,

Check with Siem riep air but I recommended try the fast boat service up the tonle sap is a great trip 6hr and take the vip bus back 5 hr back to PP cost much less and you can see the country.

Fast eddie 48

Shamas
12-18-07, 01:07
Where is a good place to stay in PP that is close to action and is fairly nice. I don't mind paying 25-30 bucks for a decent place, etc. Will o nly be there two nights. Oh, close enough to museum, tour things, too. Thanks.

Hotels in PP, try Flamingos or Cara, I've stayed at both. I know a driver who's top notch, honest, trustworthy and knows every hoot and holler in the place.

If I was traveling from SR to PP, I'd take Bangkok air. It's a 45 min flight.

http://www.talesofasia.com/

http://www.canbypublications.com/

Here are two good links, one of them has all of the airlilne timetables for Camboland.

Shamas O'D

Velvet Ground
12-19-07, 23:37
cambodia are a very nice contry to visit but take care?

-police arrested henning after they observed him bringing the girls, aged 10 to 14, to his phnom penh apartment. while police were searching the apartment, he tried to escape by jumping from his balcony to the ground, some four meters (13 feet) below, but crashed into a metal canopy and was arrested. the court also handed a 12-year prison term to thomas sigwart eugen, 42, on debauchery charges. eugen was arrested after police saw him having sex with two of the girls on a videotape confirep001ed from henning. "the two germans committed the crimes because they figured cambodia is a poor country and that they could just use their dollars to buy sex to fulfill their urges, " judge ke sakhan said. "these are illegal acts cambodia cannot tolerate. " both men worked as private english teachers in phnom penh. the germans denied sexually abusing the girls during their trial march 1. henning said the four girls had come to his house to learn english and computer skills from him. a vietnamese couple that acted as sex brokers for the germans received 17-year prison terms each on charges of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). the couple worked with one of the girl's mothers, who was sentenced to 15 years in jail, also on [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) charges. phnom penh's anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) police arrested the two germans in separate raids of their rented apartments in the capital, phnom penh, in august. eugen, speaking to reporters at the court friday, said he was "quite shocked" by his prison sentence. child rights advocates say cambodia's lax law enforcement has made it a destination for foreign ****s. however, police have recently stepped up action against offenders. on tuesday, the same court sentenced a swiss man to 11 years in prison for sexually abusing a 12-year-old cambodian girl.

Elmerfud
12-20-07, 16:01
cambodia are a very nice contry to visit but take care?

-police arrested henning after they observed him bringing the girls, aged 10 to 14, to his phnom penh apartment. while police were searching the apartment, he tried to escape by jumping from his balcony to the ground, some four meters (13 feet) below, but crashed into a metal canopy and was arrested. the court also handed a 12-year prison term to thomas sigwart eugen, 42, on debauchery charges. eugen was arrested after police saw him having sex with two of the girls on a videotape confirep001ed from henning. "the two germans committed the crimes because they figured cambodia is a poor country and that they could just use their dollars to buy sex to fulfill their urges, " judge ke sakhan said. "these are illegal acts cambodia cannot tolerate. " both men worked as private english teachers in phnom penh. the germans denied sexually abusing the girls during their trial march 1. henning said the four girls had come to his house to learn english and computer skills from him. a vietnamese couple that acted as sex brokers for the germans received 17-year prison terms each on charges of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). the couple worked with one of the girl's mothers, who was sentenced to 15 years in jail, also on [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) charges. phnom penh's anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) police arrested the two germans in separate raids of their rented apartments in the capital, phnom penh, in august. eugen, speaking to reporters at the court friday, said he was "quite shocked" by his prison sentence. child rights advocates say cambodia's lax law enforcement has made it a destination for foreign ****s. however, police have recently stepped up action against offenders. on tuesday, the same court sentenced a swiss man to 11 years in prison for sexually abusing a 12-year-old cambodian girl.well, good sentence for those two low life kiddies molester and what about the high rank cambodian who are abusing child we never heard about that. wonder why? what a fucken corrupted country.

Dinghy
12-20-07, 22:18
OK, velvet - and YOUR POINT IS?

"Keep away from young stuff"?

Gee, what an interesting concept - nothing under the age of consent... (18 according to the forum rules...)

Sunlion X
12-21-07, 09:17
First off I've read alot of useful infro here. Thanks to all.

This will be my 5th trip to PP.Not new to PP but its still like a new toy to me. I've been around the track a few times,to the same places.

I would like to meet up with others while in PP to do al ittle barhopping and show around to other places.

I'll start this trip like this..

Jan 15-19 Bkk.Nana hotel

Jan 19-25 PP Flamingo hotel

Jan25-Feb1.??Siem Reap or Nookieville??

Feb1-11 Angeles City,Pacific Breeze hotel

Feb 11-18 Pattaya.

Its like a E ticket for SEA. LOL

I've been to the more popular places like Sophies, Cyrcee, Martini's, Sharkies DV8, Walkabout, ect, ect, ect. But would like some other ideas on where to go.

Anyway I know Pattaya and AC pretty well. As well as most you you do. But would like to meet up with others who know PP better than me.

Happy Holidays To All.

SunLion

PS,

Any suggestions where to go to SR or Nookievile?

Thanks~

Orange Sunshine
12-22-07, 18:25
I was there in PP this past March and had a blast. I'll be there again in March '08. Janto worked at Le Crycee then and I just had to have her for a couple of nights(so cheap). You're absolutely right, she's a real hot spinner and great company too!Spinners.

Does anyone know if a photo of Janto exists in the gallery? Or where she's employed now? freelance hangout. e.g. Sharky's?

Also, I recall a post mentioning a FB down on Monivong and St.282 or 284, $30-40 all in, supposedly stunning Viet girls, but search comes up empty. Does anyone know the name of this place? is it somewhat high end? recommended? I'm flying in late next week.

Thanks.

Bold Focker
12-25-07, 03:41
Jan25-Feb1.??Siem Reap or Nookieville??

Feb1-11 Angeles City,Pacific Breeze hotel

Feb 11-18 Pattaya.

I think you would be beter off going to...

Sihnoukville (12hour bus trip to pattaya) or boat to KO Kong and then to trat and onto Pattaya
Pattaya to BKK (Taxi 800bt)
BKK to manila Cebu pacific $90
Manila to AC. (Taxi & rabbit bus)

I dont know how you will get Sihanoukville to AC unless there is a boat?

I would do it later in the year, but i have to go skiing in Jan and FEB

RetiredForever
12-25-07, 08:08
First off I've read alot of useful infro here. Thanks to all.

This will be my 5th trip to PP.Not new to PP but its still like a new toy to me. I've been around the track a few times,to the same places.

I would like to meet up with others while in PP to do al ittle barhopping and show around to other places.

I'll start this trip like this..

Jan 15-19 Bkk.Nana hotel

Jan 19-25 PP Flamingo hotel

Jan25-Feb1.??Siem Reap or Nookieville??

Feb1-11 Angeles City,Pacific Breeze hotel

Feb 11-18 Pattaya.

Its like a E ticket for SEA. LOL

I've been to the more popular places like Sophies, Cyrcee, Martini's, Sharkies DV8, Walkabout, ect, ect, ect. But would like some other ideas on where to go.

Anyway I know Pattaya and AC pretty well. As well as most you you do. But would like to meet up with others who know PP better than me.

Happy Holidays To All.

SunLion

PS,

Any suggestions where to go to SR or Nookievile?

Thanks~
Sounds like a friend of mine and I will be in PP and Snookyville same time as you. PM me or whatever if you want to catch up. Tried PM but you have shut off. Read my recent posts about SR they may help your visit there. Another friend who use to live in PP is giving me a whole list of places to be sure and check out while in PP.

RetiredForever
12-25-07, 08:10
Have not been there yet but thought I would past along what I found out from friend that lives in SR that use to run tours in PP. Since so many members have asked about this I thought preliminary info might help until I get there and can provide full report.
Go down to the waterfront across from the Paragon hotel. Grab a boat and tell them you want to go to Kens Vie. He recommends taking the New Paris 2. Use to cost about $5 per hour to rent boat. They will take you down to a bunch of house boats on the river. You can apparently also take a taxi down to some Buddhist Wat on the river and they are on other side. I guess the most important point is to ask for Kens Vie.You go inside and order meal off of the menu. Girls will serve you. If do not like the particular one you get ask for another. When you get done with meal the girls hopes you will select her for a private session. He personally recommends the girl on boat 666 with the reddish hair and pigtail. No telling if still there but worth the suggestion. He also recommended boat 552. Says girls use to cost $10 but who knows now

Qiao Han
12-26-07, 15:25
...Go down to the waterfront across from the Paragon hotel. Grab a boat and tell them you want to go to Kens Vie. That's something I haven't tried yet, I know there is plenty of action across the river but I haven't ventured there because I really don't know where to go. I guess it helps to have a local guide. Maybe Sovanmee knows more about it. Definitely will check it out on my PP trip Jan 25-31.

Thanks for the tip

QH

Wendella
12-29-07, 19:30
Cowboy Brew mentioned these KTV places in an earlier post, and I was hoping to find out a bit more about them:

MID RANGE
Shanghai KTV (NOT Shanghai Bar! different place)
Casa (not the disco, the KTV upstairs)
Mega
99

HIGH END
X2
XO
The Rock

I have been in PP a few times, and the only one of these I've seen is Casa. How do these other places compare to Casa? Is there anything that would make the higher end places worth visiting?

Finally, where are these places?

Thanks!

Sunlion X
12-30-07, 11:11
Sounds like a friend of mine and I will be in PP and Snookyville same time as you. PM me or whatever if you want to catch up. Tried PM but you have shut off. Read my recent posts about SR they may help your visit there. Another friend who use to live in PP is giving me a whole list of places to be sure and check out while in PP.I think Iam going to Snookieville. And if you around in PP the 19 25 Feb. Or Snookyville the 25 1Feb. PM me and we, ll down a few beers and play grab ass with the girls. I paid for the sub, so you sould be able to PM now.

Xdentx
12-31-07, 11:56
Arriving in PP on Jan 5 and have hired Sovanmee to drive me around for three days. He's asking $30/day. Staying at the Haw....something Hotel Apartments. PM me if anyone's in town. While I usually fly solo, would'n mind meeting some guys for a beer and exchange of info.

Prince Harry
01-01-08, 03:27
Cowboy Brew mentioned these KTV places in an earlier post, and I was hoping to find out a bit more about them:

MID RANGE
Shanghai KTV (NOT Shanghai Bar! different place)
Casa (not the disco, the KTV upstairs)
Mega
99

HIGH END
X2
XO
The Rock

I have been in PP a few times, and the only one of these I've seen is Casa. How do these other places compare to Casa? Is there anything that would make the higher end places worth visiting?

Finally, where are these places?

Thanks!I think that X2 and XO are franchised, there are several of them but there is only one rock. I have been to rock and it is an incredibly loud khmer disco for rich kids.

If you have no Khmer language skills I think that you would be wasting your time at these joints and may even get into serious trouble if you were to accost the girl of some rich / connected / milttary / police Khmer.

As for kien svay, it has been cleaned up. The girls may be still available if you were to aks for them, but they are not as obvious as they were.

Wendella
01-01-08, 05:07
Thanks for that. I had the impression before that XO and X2 were karaokes, but it sounds like that might be wrong.

But does anyone know where they are? That is what I'm mainly trying to find out. Or some way that I could find out (phone book? I don't see them in the Canby guide)

I think someone else, not me, was asking about Kien Svay -- that's nothing I'd be very interested in. Different strokes though.

Thanks

Tony Mint
01-01-08, 09:46
Arriving in PP on Jan 5 and have hired Sovanmee to drive me around for three days. He's asking $30/day. Staying at the Haw....something Hotel Apartments. PM me if anyone's in town. While I usually fly solo, would'n mind meeting some guys for a beer and exchange of info.Hi,

I am a new member here and am visiting PP for the first time. I spoke to couple of drivers and all of them are quoting 30 - 35 USD for 10 hour in the city.

I will be arriving into PP on 4th and will staty there until 8th jan'08. It will be pleasure to meet you for a beer.

Cheers,

Joyra

Bowerboy
01-01-08, 12:14
I just got back from 4 days in Phnom Penh and here are a couple of observations:

Sophies - Always a moving target, this place was not so good this time around, Mikado had a much better selection of girls.

Cyrcee - This is the easiest and best no nonsense bar in Phnom Penh in my opinion at the moment. Great selection of girls, take them up to the room upstairs or barfine them out, great attitude and great performance. I took a girl called Janto upstairs on the first night. She was absolutely great. Then on the scond night I bar fined a girl called Phuong (I think that was her name) and she was absolutely top shelf in performance and with a great ody and very atractive face..ver happy.

Martini's - Business as usual with plenty of girls, reasonable selection but nothing really oustanding although that will always depend on timing.

Sharkeys - Same same as Martinis but not quite so straightforward and seems like you have to put a bit of effort into catching a girls eye and then negotaite a deal with here generally while eveyone is watching on (particularly if they are playing pool). Reminded me a bit of trying to pick up girls in Gullivers in Bangkok, similar sort of situation.

Heart of Darkness - After 1am this place is heaving and seems to be the place where all the girls come to after the normal bars have closed. If you havent found what you are looking for before 1am then chances are you will find it here.

Street 63 - Plenty of venues but need to be careful with your money. No real problem if you keep your pants next to the pillow on the bed though and do not let them out of your sight at any time. Loads of nice looking Viet girls but performance varies a lot. I used these venues every day and didnt have any problems as there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet. Used a number of different places but the best one was the last one on street 63 on the right hand side as you are heading in the direction away from the morning market. I did not note the cross street unfortunately but it is probably 2 kilometeres past the area on 63 where 3 or 4 places are congregated together.

Driver: If you want a really reliable and trustworthy driver then try Jack. He is very well known and is always outside Sharkeys from 6pm onwards, all the drivers know him and he has a card with his name on it if you are in doubt. The card actually says his name which is Savoeun.

Man, you cannot beat those Vietnamese girls, they are the absolute best when it comes to taking a pounding. They can take it as hard as you can possibly give it and just have a completely passive look on their face. Fantastic

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Pokey Penguin
01-01-08, 14:10
Are any adult CDs for sale in PP and if so, where?

Thanks

Member #3443
01-02-08, 07:37
Many of the DVD vendors in the "New Market/Central Market" and "Russian Market" have adult DVDs.

Member #3443
01-02-08, 08:12
XO Club KTV is located at, No 85 A, Street 163.
Prince Harry is correct. It is high end, girls are $75-$100 IF they decide to go with you and you need a high end friend to get the deal done. There are multiple private Karoke rooms for rent. The mamasan brings in girls. You usually take 2 for each person. Then these 2 help prepare your drinks as usally there are a couple of hostesses that help with this also. The 2 girls with you also help you to eat when dinner or other type foods arrive. Think like you only use your hand to roam a little and to take a drink.

X2 Club is located at, No 36, Samdech Pan (St. 214)

Casa Hotel Night Club and Restaurant is located at, No 5 France Street 47 Near Wat Phnom

Club 99 No. 10, Street 252

Wendella
01-03-08, 07:20
Taloha, Cowboy Brew, or anyone with experience in these places:

Are the girls there much better than in the expat type spots (Martini, etc.)? When I say better, I mean prettier/younger/more attractive.

I had a chance to see the 'stock room' at Casa one night, it looked like it was 60-70 girls in there at one time, leaving in lines to go to the different karaoke rooms to do a lineup for customers. But this gives me a reference point: are the ones in these other places a good step up from what's available in Casa? (Casa didn't blow me away, by any means) Or about the same?

In that place, it seemed as if take-out was available at the customer's option -- 'up to you'. It sounds like that's not the case in some of these places though.

Any good info appreciated....thanks.

Member #3443
01-03-08, 12:46
Yes, in the places like XO Club etc.. they are prettier, younger, and more attractive. Even the beer girls (the ones serving drinks) are prettier. The girls are not pressured to go home with an ex-pat or tourist and will generally cost a min of $70 if they do decide to go home with somebody. Though I got one as a semi girlfriend (did not report it here) who after awhile came over after work at night sometimes for less funds. But again, I was introduced by a Khmer etc....


Taloha, Cowboy Brew, or anyone with experience in these places:

Are the girls there much better than in the expat type spots (Martini, etc.)? When I say better, I mean prettier/younger/more attractive.

I had a chance to see the 'stock room' at Casa one night, it looked like it was 60-70 girls in there at one time, leaving in lines to go to the different karaoke rooms to do a lineup for customers. But this gives me a reference point: are the ones in these other places a good step up from what's available in Casa? (Casa didn't blow me away, by any means) Or about the same?

In that place, it seemed as if take-out was available at the customer's option -- 'up to you'. It sounds like that's not the case in some of these places though.

Any good info appreciated....thanks.

Redfield10
01-04-08, 03:14
I tried to register on-line for Flamingo's using their web site...all I got back was this..

"This message is notify you that your verification has been recieved and
that
your email address has been white listed.

All pending messages from your address have been delivered to
info@flamingos.com.kh.

No action is needed on your part.

The headers of the message sent from your address are show below:"

Does anyone know what this means or/and has had a similar experience when trying to reserve room there online?

Also, if it's too much hassle, I can just stay at the CA II Hotel...which do you guys (who haven't answered me yet) prefer and why?

Thanks...

Wendella
01-04-08, 07:12
It sounds like Flamingo is popular these days and so maybe they're not doing everything they can to close the deal on reservations. If it was me, and I was dead set on staying there, I'd just phone them. I've seen reports of non-connection when making reservations there, can't remember if it was on this forum or another one. And also of people showing up to find out they had no reservation (when they hadn't received clear confirmation).

Cepu19
01-04-08, 08:57
I have never made a reservation with Flamingos I just turn up. Never had a problem and if I did then New York, Asia and Big Luck Hotel are all good alternatives. Don't get to hung up in reservations in Cambodia they would have forgotten about it before you turn up on 50% of the cases anyway.

Cowboy Brew
01-04-08, 11:27
Taloha, Cowboy Brew, or anyone with experience in these places:

Are the girls there much better than in the expat type spots (Martini, etc.)? When I say better, I mean prettier/younger/more attractive.

I had a chance to see the 'stock room' at Casa one night, it looked like it was 60-70 girls in there at one time, leaving in lines to go to the different karaoke rooms to do a lineup for customers. But this gives me a reference point: are the ones in these other places a good step up from what's available in Casa? (Casa didn't blow me away, by any means) Or about the same?

In that place, it seemed as if take-out was available at the customer's option -- 'up to you'. It sounds like that's not the case in some of these places though.

Any good info appreciated....thanks.Allow me to clarify a few things. you are right about Casa being a virtual take-out place at the customer's option.

The same goes for 99 Club, Shanghai KTV and Mega.

Casa, 99 Club, Shanghai KTV and Mega are the in the same mould and staffed by girls who are almost certain to go out with customers, unless a customer are particularly unappealing to the girl he choose, which rarely happens.

The girls there are mostly Vietnamese, and ranked 6 to 7 and is available for USD50 LT. on rare occasion, there are girls costing USD100 LT for long-time, which generally are taller, younger and prettier.

These KTVs cater almost exclusively to Chinese (Malaysian, Singaporean, Taiwanese etc) and therefore, most of the girls can speak functional Mandarin other than Vietnamese.

For Cambodians, there are the X0 Club, X2 and the Rock on the high-end side and a multitude of mid-range KTVs. example.. Champ Elyssee near Lucky Market, The Boss near the Wat Phnom. Difference between the KTVs for the Cambodian locals and the four KTVs catering for Chinese are

1) Girls are mostly Cambodians and speak Cambodian ONLY. (the KTVs for Chinese are staffed mostly by Chinese-speaking Vietnamese)

2) Most girls are unwilling to go out or sleep with clients, unless the girls really like you OR you are regulars and have befriended them for a long time or through special arrangement by someone who is a regular or friend of the girl. It is the same situation with girls in local beer gardens OR with Vietnamese girls in KTV or beer om in Vietnam whereby special services are available ONLY AFTER long-term engagement and investment.

Tahola is right about the girls in the Cambodian KTV being much prettier and classier but only if one is not particular about the girls being fair skin. Cambodian girls are mostly of darker skin, BUT there are exceptions and a handful of Cambodian girls working there that are really good-looking AND with fair skin would be in very high demand as Cambodians, like most East Asians, find fair-skin girls more appealing. As expected, fair-skin girls are more likely to be found in the high-end Cambodian KTV than the mid-range ones.

And the ROCK is BOTH a disco and a KTV. If one ever goes to the toilet inside the disco, one will notice the private KTV rooms dotting the hallway leading to the toilet. Rooms are also available on the second level and is accessible by the stairs beside the disco entrance.

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Cowa Banga
01-04-08, 23:02
Cowbow Brew,

You REALLY know your shit.

Have you been across the bridge where the beer promotion girls work?

I like Holiday disco as well.

Once again, great stuff.

Xdentx
01-05-08, 03:42
As I wrap up my first visit to Phnom Penh, I have a couple of thoughts for other newbees. First and foremost, hire a driver for the first couple of days to get the lay of the land. That's going to allow you to do and see a whole lot more than you would on your own. But don't blame me when you decide to use the driver for the whole trip. I contacted Driver Sovan Mee on the recommendation of Shamas. He's courteous, relyable, honest, flexible,knows the city well, pretty good English and $30/day. Pick up at the airport (which is nice when you fly into a place like PP), tour of the sites and bars that you want to check out, waits or sleeps in the car while you do your thing, and makes recommendations if asked.

To give you an idea of the possibilities, say you want to visit a whole list of hostess bars or other venues on your first night to find your kind of place. Of course,these places all want you to sit down and have a drink ect. However I walked through a place first and if the vibe was right and the ladies looked good, I'd sit down. Some places you just walk into
and exit two minutes later. If you're relying on a motodriver, its not that safe or convenient. Plus, these bars are farther apart and more difficult to find than I thought they would be from a map. A good driver knows which bars are grouped together and how to route things efficiently.

Here's what I visited on my first night...7:30 to 1 am. Mikado, LeCyree, DV8 Bar, Rose Bar, 104th Bar, Zanzibar, Martini's, Sharkies, Walkabout, Shanghai Bar, and 136th St Bar. The second night was fine tuning the original list plus adding in ....... Heart of Darkness, Casa KTV, Nice Nice Bar, Golden Wine Bar, Happy man Bar, Flower Bar, Zapata Bar, and Colonial Bar. Because transportation was so convenient, I could afford to spend 60 seconds on a look/see and exit if I wished. With a driver, you're out of the car before he parks. You have instant transportation when you leave with your lady for the night. No negotiation every time you change venues and no searching for a difficult to find place. Time is money when you have traveled a long way to get to PP. Plus, when you exit a bar and 6 moto drivers vie for your business, there's something satisfying in knowing your "car and driver" are standing by.

A word about the traffic/driving situation: incredible and dangerous on a moto. Most intersections have no traffic signals and the mass of cars and motos somehow get through an intersection intact. Lighting can be dim, headlights of motos not functional, and bicycle reflectors nonexistant. You have to experience it to believe it. (The night market is lighted by kerosene lamps, not electric bulbs.) I did a lot of video footage of the traffic from the car because it was so amazing.

Hopefully another report on PP to follow. But now I have to pack for Siem Reap. My driver is picking me up in 1 hour!

Shamas
01-05-08, 05:23
Xtendx

Glad you hooked up with Sovan Mee and also happy you were so pleased with him.

I like your discription of traffic in PP, It's as wild as I've ever sceen and I've been all over the world.

Have a good time in SR, the Temples are one of the wonders of the world.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Butt Sniffer to the Stars

Wendella
01-05-08, 06:36
A huge thanks to Cowboy Brew and Taloha, who do indeed really know their shit. ;-) I think I have a very good idea what to expect in these KTV's now.

Cowa Banga, I'd be game to hear more about these beer girls across the river.... are these beer company promotion girls wearing the uniform of Tiger, etc., pushing their brand at restaurants or beer-drinking places? If so, Vietnam has the same thing. In VN they are generally nothing amazing, though the ones promoting higher priced stuff like Johnny Walker or Hennessy (in nightclubs) tend to be a good step up. Holiday disco is the one up a ways north of Casa, right? If so, I've been there, but never sure what is the best time to arrive. Not sure if I've been unlucky but when I've gone there, the selection and quality seemed to be lower than at Martini. Things change though. This place has been going since at least 2000, same as Casa, when I went there the first time. On one visit to Casa disco (2003?), it had a dance floor that was ALL working girls (and not too many, maybe 10), and just 2 or 3 customers sitting in the shadows on stools at small round tables. Mamasan circled the room to stir up interest.

Xdentx: Since you seemed to spend a pretty short time in most of those places (how else to get your list that long!), you said you would leave in 60 seconds if it wasn't interesting, I guess we can presume these places mostly weren't doing it for you? It makes me curious which ones you did spend more time in. Or which you went back to on Night #2.

Cepu19
01-05-08, 08:07
Xtendx

Glad you hooked up with Sovan Mee and also happy you were so pleased with him.

I like your discription of traffic in PP, It's as wild as I've ever sceen and I've been all over the world.

Have a good time in SR, the Temples are one of the wonders of the world.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Butt Sniffer to the StarsMust admit I don't find PP traffic too bad. HCMC and Mumbai are IMO far worse. In PP I have hired my own moto to drive around. As long as it is locked to something or under watch when ever not in use it is convenient. I don't drink too much so I find it safe and romantic to drive my love of the night home on the back.

I would never to that in either HCMC or Mumbai.

Sunlion X
01-05-08, 08:41
I tried to register on-line for Flamingo's using their web site...all I got back was this..

"This message is notify you that your verification has been recieved and
that
your email address has been white listed.

All pending messages from your address have been delivered to
info@flamingos.com.kh.

No action is needed on your part.

The headers of the message sent from your address are show below:"

Does anyone know what this means or/and has had a similar experience when trying to reserve room there online?

Also, if it's too much hassle, I can just stay at the CA II Hotel...which do you guys (who haven't answered me yet) prefer and why?

Thanks...I got the same reply, but try this e~mail address.

They responed the next day.

"kumnith" <info@flamingos.com.kh>

Xdentx
01-05-08, 18:11
Since I'm in SR now, doing exhaustive work, I can only briefly comment on PP bars. The ones I liked the best were DV8 Bar, Rose Bar, 104th Bar, Zanzibar, and 136th St Bar. In my three nights there, I did three LT...all for $50 (sorry bout that). The three came from DV8, Rose Bar, and 104th Bar. Two were Cambo girls with average uninspired performances. The third was half Cambo half Viet and was much more oral and exciting! At this point, I find the Thai and Philippina girls (of Wan Chai HK) much more responsive. These Cambo girls are not very vocal or responsive in my experience compared to other countries. I made a second visit to Mikado on day two and discovered the ladies were without panties. They encouraged me to handle them and that was nice! However, I still wouldn't bar fine them for LT. I hit Walkabout on inpulse one afternoon day two and found a short time for $15. When I got her to the hotel, turns out she was 3 months post delivery and still lactating. Small but very perky breasts. She was rather uncomfortable with the sex and it was an average session. I found the girls at Martini's rather low quality in the two times I dropped in. Sharkey's didn't do anything for me on the two times I visited and I never saw Sophies because I was so focused on LT. I hit Casa and went up to the second floor of the hotel to check out the lounge where about 60 or 70 ladies wait to go to the disco or KTV. Didn't see anything particularly classy or interesting...lower quality than the hostess bars in my opinion. Plus, I have no clue how you would pull one of these girls out of their lounge...or even engage them in conversation. The hostess bars, in my opinion, allow you to chat with the girls while they massage you and otherwise make you feel like a king. The problem with these bars is that they are open until 4 am, so the girls are used to going to sleep at 6 or 7 am. If you go LT with them, they're not ready to sleep when you are. More later.

Wendella
01-05-08, 18:59
Interesting. In the past my luck has been best at Martini, but maybe it's gone downhill since then.

About Casa, I think you could go in and get yourself a karaoke room, which isn't much. Can order cheapish drinks like beers if you don't want to splurge on a bottle -- and they would bring in a lineup for you to choose from. Otherwise you are allowed to just get takeout -- and I guess they would also line them up for you for that.

I talked to reception and they seemed to be saying that it was my choice whether to get a room and spend time there or just take a girl out. Price I was quoted was $15 for the room, $50 to take the girl home (which I think was for overnight, but not sure). If you just get the girl, it's $65. If that's the case, may as well get the room since you pay for it either way.

Robarts
01-06-08, 01:35
Hi All,

Can anyone tell me when the peak tourist season in PP starts to wind up? Booked for the last week of Feb and hoping that it won't be too busy. Was in PP in June last year and was very quiet however, I am aware that this may not be the case in late Feb. Finally, if anyone is keen to catch up for a beer, let me know (will be at Flamingos).

PS If staying at Flamingos make sure you confrim your booking as both times I stayed there I had trouble getting a room despite booking weeks in advance. On one occaision I had to stay at a sister hotel for a night before they had a room available for me. Also print out the email they send back confirming your booking at take it when you check in. infoatflamingos.com. Kh has always got back to me within 24hrs in the past.

Tcvve
01-06-08, 17:24
I just got back from 4 days in Phnom Penh and here are a couple of observations:

Sophies - Always a moving target, this place was not so good this time around, Mikado had a much better selection of girls.

Cyrcee - This is the easiest and best no nonsense bar in Phnom Penh in my opinion at the moment. Great selection of girls, take them up to the room upstairs or barfine them out, great attitude and great performance. I took a girl called Janto upstairs on the first night. She was absolutely great. Then on the scond night I bar fined a girl called Phuong (I think that was her name) and she was absolutely top shelf in performance and with a great ody and very atractive face..ver happy.

Martini's - Business as usual with plenty of girls, reasonable selection but nothing really oustanding although that will always depend on timing.

Sharkeys - Same same as Martinis but not quite so straightforward and seems like you have to put a bit of effort into catching a girls eye and then negotaite a deal with here generally while eveyone is watching on (particularly if they are playing pool). Reminded me a bit of trying to pick up girls in Gullivers in Bangkok, similar sort of situation.

Heart of Darkness - After 1am this place is heaving and seems to be the place where all the girls come to after the normal bars have closed. If you havent found what you are looking for before 1am then chances are you will find it here.

Street 63 - Plenty of venues but need to be careful with your money. No real problem if you keep your pants next to the pillow on the bed though and do not let them out of your sight at any time. Loads of nice looking Viet girls but performance varies a lot. I used these venues every day and didnt have any problems as there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet. Used a number of different places but the best one was the last one on street 63 on the right hand side as you are heading in the direction away from the morning market. I did not note the cross street unfortunately but it is probably 2 kilometeres past the area on 63 where 3 or 4 places are congregated together.

Driver: If you want a really reliable and trustworthy driver then try Jack. He is very well known and is always outside Sharkeys from 6pm onwards, all the drivers know him and he has a card with his name on it if you are in doubt. The card actually says his name which is Savoeun.

Man, you cannot beat those Vietnamese girls, they are the absolute best when it comes to taking a pounding. They can take it as hard as you can possibly give it and just have a completely passive look on their face. Fantastic

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


Hi.

At the 63rd street houses, did you have to pay for the girl up-front or after the deed was done? How much was for a short-time (one shot)?

Thanks.
TC.

Wendella
01-07-08, 00:36
Street 63 - Plenty of venues but need to be careful with your money. No real problem if you keep your pants next to the pillow on the bed though and do not let them out of your sight at any time. Loads of nice looking Viet girls but performance varies a lot. I used these venues every day and didnt have any problems as there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet.

Sorry, what do you mean "there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet"?

Tom, they always try to rob you at these places. That's no exaggeration, if you do a search on '63' in this thread, you'll see one story after another about it. My own story is nothing spectacular, just caught the guy reaching into the door and grabbing my pants off of a hook they were hanging on. It seems to happen something like 100% of the time. There have also been some stories of customers spotting someone creeping around on the floor to get at pants if they were put on the bed.

Ekspat
01-07-08, 05:30
At the 63rd street houses, did you have to pay for the girl up-front or after the deed was done? How much was for a short-time (one shot)?
Don't remember exactly but I think it was upfront and back in 2003 it was 5$ per shot and maybe 1-2$ tip for the girl. Never been back there since then.

Agree with the others, simply avoid 63 street.

Back then I read all the information and went there with nothing else in the pocket than less than 10$, cheap lighter and some cigarettes.
After the deed was done, they've even stolen the cigs and lighter, and I was happy that at least my pants were still there. :D
Not to be unfair, I have to say, the BBBJ and CFS was pretty good.

Good luck!
Cheers!

Wendella
01-07-08, 07:00
After the deed was done, they've even stolen the cigs and lighter, and I was happy that at least my pants were still there. :D

It'd be interesting to try to think of a way to put one over on these guys -- nothing too serious, but just something that sends the message. Maybe wrap something up in your pocket that has a gob of Krazy Glue in it or something. Or maybe something more harmless than that (and therefore less dangerous for you), since I wouldn't be surprised at all if your head would run into a pipe on the way out of the room. That's what these guys are like, though. There were some reports here awhile back of a guy getting attacked with pipes in one place for arguing over being ripped off (that report got deleted for breaking a forum rule regarding grammar and vocab).

So maybe a cigarette lighter with a remote control bomb in it. Yeah, that would do it. ;-)

Patarse
01-07-08, 14:38
Must admit I don't find PP traffic too bad. HCMC and Mumbai are IMO far worse. In PP I have hired my own moto to drive around. As long as it is locked to something or under watch when ever not in use it is convenient. I don't drink too much so I find it safe and romantic to drive my love of the night home on the back.

I would never to that in either HCMC or Mumbai.I really don't care where you've been.

Cambodian traffic is different, mad, crazy anything you want to say but fuckin g mental on ts own.

Franga
01-07-08, 16:45
The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.Today I partook at 99D and gave him $10 as I was entering the room. He then asked for $20 and laughed. So did I. He walked away with his $10.

I made sure I locked the door, and put my bag on the bed in full sight, and I had no problems. The girl even gave me a half decent 5 minute massage. Remember to be very wary in these places. Even check under the bed for a theif, and be sure to lock the door. If the girl makes an excuse to go out for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), then lock the door when she comes back in.

Opebo
01-07-08, 17:58
The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.

I haven't been to PP in a couple of years, but they always quoted $10 then too. If you came on a motorbike taxi there was no getting out of this ripoff price, as they had to pay $5 to your Cambodian keeper. However once I learned to walk there on my own it was easy enough to bargain to $5 by offering to leave if they did not meet that price. Of course things may have changed.

ButtLover
01-07-08, 19:46
The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.Today I partook at 99D and gave him $10 as I was entering the room. He then asked for $20 and laughed. So did I. He walked away with his $10.

I made sure I locked the door, and put my bag on the bed in full sight, and I had no problems. The girl even gave me a half decent 5 minute massage. Remember to be very wary in these places. Even check under the bed for a theif, and be sure to lock the door. If the girl makes an excuse to go out for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), then lock the door when she comes back in.

Hi
When i was in Singapore a couple of years ago, there must had been a theif under the bed, the girl pointed at a place on the floor (very close to the bed) and said put your clothes her.
Later i discovered that a big part af my money was gone !!
This was at Desker road.

BL

Muzungufotsy
01-08-08, 23:26
The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.Today I partook at 99D and gave him $10 as I was entering the room. He then asked for $20 and laughed. So did I. He walked away with his $10.

I made sure I locked the door, and put my bag on the bed in full sight, and I had no problems. The girl even gave me a half decent 5 minute massage. Remember to be very wary in these places. Even check under the bed for a theif, and be sure to lock the door. If the girl makes an excuse to go out for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), then lock the door when she comes back in.Sorry to tell you this but the price for barangs (foreigners) is 5$. And never pay upfront. This is Cambodia not Philippines.

Phantomtiger2
01-09-08, 01:26
Tom, they always try to rob you at these places. That's no exaggeration, if you do a search on '63' in this thread, you'll see one story after another about it. My own story is nothing spectacular, just caught the guy reaching into the door and grabbing my pants off of a hook they were hanging on. It seems to happen something like 100% of the time. There have also been some stories of customers spotting someone creeping around on the floor to get at pants if they were put on the bed.


One of my experiences that I posted a while back included a place with a trap door on both the floor and wall. That's why I stated that ALL non-local -mainly tourist (like us) are always put into the same special room so they can get to our money/belongings easier. Think of it as the same trick magicians use to make things "disappear".
All the locals get to use the regular rooms.

PT

Phantomtiger2
01-09-08, 01:37
It'd be interesting to try to think of a way to put one over on these guys -- nothing too serious, but just something that sends the message. Maybe wrap something up in your pocket that has a gob of Krazy Glue in it or something. Or maybe something more harmless than that (and therefore less dangerous for you), since I wouldn't be surprised at all if your head would run into a pipe on the way out of the room. That's what these guys are like, though. There were some reports here awhile back of a guy getting attacked with pipes in one place for arguing over being ripped off (that report got deleted for breaking a forum rule regarding grammar and vocab).

So maybe a cigarette lighter with a remote control bomb in it. Yeah, that would do it. ;-)


It's a nice thought but anything above that is just trouble. I met that monger you are referring to (Name was Pirate, nice guy and very honest and willing to help everyone almost everywhere he went but was run off the forum by all the stiffs here not looking at the great information he provided but by his style of writing.-too bad as I actually liked his posts and his wacky Pirate of the Caribbean style and grammar.) On one of his great post, He had simply complained about having things stolen at one of these brothels and was immediately confronted by several thugs with knives and pipes at the door. He kept calm and was allowed to leave -minus his money but kept his life. Like most brothels around the world, they are usually protected by some local mafia and police (via payoffs). In Cambo, some of the brothels are even owned by the police (one of the bartenders told me this in PP).
Bottom line, I just pay a few extra bucks and enjoy a better and safer experience away from the St 63 brothels (if anyone reads back, there is almost Never a monger that reported good service at any 63 borthel)---IMO.


PT

Wendella
01-09-08, 05:41
The other reason why they're just not worth it is because the quality of girls is just not up to par. I have never seen anything remarkable in any of those places, ever, and I have checked out probably most of the ones over there. Maybe others' experience differs, but I would say you are near certain to find better at almost any other venue. Potential risk high, potential reward low. Anything that sounds too good to be true...

Yes, here's one to the Pirate, may he fare well as he sails upon distant seas. Aargh.

Bowerboy
01-10-08, 14:16
We went to Street 63 with our Moto Driver and he even warned us to be careful with our belongings! There is a group of places in 63 in a very close proximity to each other and we did go in their one day but the service was terrible (quite good looking girls though). I think this particular grouping of brothels would be the ones that rip you off. There is one place on its own right at the other end of street 63 and that place for sure is fine and you can see the difference in attitude immediatley... I was with my freind (both took girls, seperate rooms obviously), I put my wallet in my shorts pocket and then bundled up my shorts and put them right next to my hand by the pillow...I used the street 63 brothels probably 6 times in 3 days and never any problem or feeling that there may be a problem... I payed $15 a pop for the girls and maybe that is part of the reason I didnt feel there were any problems..if you insist on haggling like crazy and getting it for $5 then maybe they feel they need to get their money one way or the other!!! I really believe you need to be careful with haggling too much in Asia, you can just end up making your life difficult...normally if everyone is happy then things go smoothly, if someone feels hard done by then problems occur....$15 is 500THB, they could charge me $20 and I would pay no problem if it means no hassles...I really like the brothels in St 63 and it always forms an integral part of any trip to Phnom Penh...best off though avoiding that group of 3 or 4 brothels that are in close proximity (I reckon you can tell immediately that they could be troublesome).

Gagoo
01-10-08, 15:12
Hello a friend of mine travel a lot and he has just told me Cambodia and Vietnam are the best countries for mongering and fucking. I mean fucking with passion, I don't like mechanical sex of Pattaya. I don't know Cambodia or Vietnam, could you tell me if where it is easier to fuck regular girls? I need to know a country very easy to fuck regular girls and cheap.
I thank you


I've had great sex with girls in Pattaya and Bangkok. I'm in Pattaya right now that I think of it. This trip is about 50/50 as far as getting an enthusiastic girl.
I like the way some of the young, 20 year old, innocent looking girls with firm bodies look, but they tend to be shy or not experiened to do anything but let you screw them how you want to if you are lucky. I've had some cute girls saying they were from Isan, they looked good and were nice, but they wouldn't give any BJ and I pretty much had to do all the work except for maybe them on top a couple minutes. If A girl looks happy in the bar and seems to truelly like you, you will most likely have a great time. I agre with others that Vietnam is not a great place to monger. I'll be in Cambodia tomorrow, so I'll see how that goes. From what I heard Indonesian girls really love to have sex. I never been there, but I had a good time with a couple of them in Singapore.

Bold Focker
01-11-08, 02:57
I arrived in PP on the 21st November. I did not know this at the time but the "festival of life" or water festival starts on the 23rd Nov. I had two days before the mayhem started!

I stay at Flamingos Hotel on 170 x 51 Street $25 pn.

It is a clean and tidy hotel with in room safes now, as well as Cable TV, Air con, on-suite with hot water, fan and fridge. Completely girl friendly!

As a general rule I start of at Walkabouts! Which is just over the road from Flamingo hotel? This place is always good to kill a couple of hours. There can be anything from 3 to 15 FL girls in there; in general the rate is $10 ST & $20LT. Best always to tell them what you are going to pay. If you ask they will know you are a newbie, and then silly talk starts like $30ST.

I wanted to hit Sharkys and the bars on 104 Street as these would be harder to get to when the "Water Festival" really kicks in.

In Sharky’s I meet a English guy who was new to PP we had some drinks and I played pool with a couple of FL girls. They told me that Sharky’s has a room that can be rented for $3 and the girls wanted $10 ST. Did not see the room or take the girls, but can anyone confirm this.

Next off I wanted to go to 104 Street, I asked the English guy if he wanted to come and he said yes.

I had booked the tuk tuk for the night ($8), so we jumped in and off we go. It was lucky we made it on first night as never got a chance to get there again because of the traffic.

My remaining days were spent between Walkabouts, martinis, sharkys, Chillys. Here are Just a few of the girls I had in PP!

Robarts
01-12-08, 06:38
Hi All,

When I was in PP last (late 2006) I visited Street 63 on a couple of occaisions. Service and choice was average at best with both places I visited $10 short time inc BBBJ. Service mechanical at best although nothing stolen (I was careful). Good for a quick day time fix but nothing else.

Personally I prefer FL girls/girls at hostess bars e. g. Rose, shanghai, sharkeys etc. The advantage I feel is that you can chat for a while/build rapport, and fine tune the points of the contract that you intend to enter into e. G. BBBJ, anal, photos etc. Furthermore, these establishments allow one the opportunity to meet, exchange infomation, and have a beer with those with similar intentions for being there.

Although in the past I have been very happy with the FL/hostess bar scene-$20 LT, after reading through the last couple of pages I might try out the KTV scene just for the experience when I am in PP in Feb. Thanks for the advice re KTV joints for those that posted earlier. Although because $50-$100 sounds a little excessive (considering I believe that some real gems can be found at FL/hostess bars in PP for $20LT), and the fact that karaoke sucks arse, I am sure my experience with KTV's will be fleeting. However, you can't knock it until you try it.

Just read some PP reports on another site. General theme indicated concerns re mongering in PP over the last 12 mths. One report noted that it was now normal to pay $20-25 ST/$40 LT at many FL bars such as Martini. Personally I can't see how prices could have risen so much since I was last in PP and this trend, as far as I can tell is not supported in the ISG forum. However, can anyone please confirm/deny based on recent adventures?

Finally, a good alternative to hiring a driver for $30 per day is to employ the services of a moto driver $8-10 per day. It pays to employ one that hangs around a well known/established bar or hotel (eg Shanghai bar or flamingo hotel) as they would be aware that they could be tracked down if the need arose. Prior to agreeing to anything ensure they have a decent handle of the English language, they have a good understanding of the layout and bar scene of PP, and that you are clear about the fee.

Thanks in advance

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Hollow Man
01-13-08, 03:39
Hi All,

Just read some PP reports on another site. General theme indicated concerns re mongering in PP over the last 12 mths. One report noted that it was now normal to pay $20-25 ST/$40 LT at many FL bars such as Martini. Personally I can't see how prices could have risen so much since I was last in PP and this trend, as far as I can tell is not supported in the ISG forum. However, can anyone please confirm/deny based on recent adventures?Hah! Lies! It is NOT normal to pay $20-25 ST/$40 LT. However it IS normal for the girls to ask for it. Way too many people with money to throw away are paying it.

I'll be back in Feb. Hell. My Chinese/khmer friends still think I'm fucking out of my mind when I pay $15 for good service ST. Nothing I guess anyone can do about it though. Noobs will always pay noob prices. As the guys with money to throw around will come here to learn the ways of mongering then push prices up for the people that showed them the way.

Asian Western
01-13-08, 05:06
Last night I visited Cyrcee for first time. Picked up a good one Seradee not sure of spelling but thats what it sounds like. She says 22 but who can tell she was very short. She will do anything. I had her all night for $30 plus $7 bar fine. It was certainly worth it. Very cooperative. Since my other bar excursions have been more expensive this was a welcome change. Im a great believer you get what you pay for. Sure you can get $20 all night but what quality? Seradee was good value. Anyone care to comment on the short girls in PP. When very short (4'6"") I always equated that to age but tell me if Im wrong. When Seradee came she was super juicy.... white all over the place. Her English is good enough. She would be 7 on looks and body. Also visited yesterday the massage center in hotel next to Walkabout. Not many good quality girls and none speak English. Settled in the end for $4 massage and $20 fuck which lasted one hour. Looks and body about 6. Few young girls.

Robarts
01-13-08, 07:54
Dont know if this is appropriate and in line with ISG rules. I cut and pasted the info below from another forum. I can recall some ISG members enquiring about floating restaurants in PP so thought I would add it here. Report was dated early last year.

"Taxi drivers will offer to take you to the "floating restaurants" at the other side of the river over the bridge. There are several restaurants over what was once water. The water has now far receded and the place is not that nice at all. The food is expensive and horrible. After lunch you have the option to take the waitress to one of the rooms and fuck her for US$10. Since I was there, and it was only 2 PM, I had to try. It was my worst fuck in Cambodia. My advise, avoid the floating restaurants and don't waste your time".

Wendella
01-13-08, 09:23
Can anyone recommend a pharmacy in central Phnom Penh that has a reputation for carrying only real drugs, no fakes?

I say that because I'm in Saigon now where there is one pharmacy (My Chau on Hai Ba Trung street) that's always recommended by doctors in western clinics, and lots and lots of them that will sell you anything.

Asian Rain
01-13-08, 16:21
Can anyone recommend a pharmacy in central Phnom Penh that has a reputation for carrying only real drugs, no fakes?
Try Pharmacie Socheat at #50 Street 136. Its a 30 second walk from Central Market. Check out my previous post at:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491051&postcount=1214

I have bought generic Cialis, Roche-branded Valium, antibiotics, etc. from them. Always good stuff, but check the expiration dates just to make sure. My mate picked me up a stash of generic C when he went there last and gave it to me when we met up in Manila. Keeps my pecker full of wood when I need it. Good luck, AsianRain

Wendella
01-14-08, 06:46
Try Pharmacie Socheat at #50 Street 136. Its a 30 second walk from Central Market.

Many thanks. Will check it out.

Shearer68
01-14-08, 12:37
Managed to spend a few days in Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville recently. Nice to get away from the hustle and bustle of Saigon.

Phnom Penh

I stayed at the Phnom Penh hotel, which was excellent and like most hotels in the city is very girl friendly [didnít phone up as girl was leaving as they had done on previous visits]. Room on the 4th floor was very nice and club privileges good. Girls were very impressed with rooms especially the space age bathroom.

First night traveled round a few bars: Sharkeyís Ėone beer only. I donít mind the place but just not into it that night and my previous FLíS from there have been disappointing. Next onto 104 Street to watch footy at the Parrot, which was ok but I think essentially itís a sort of expat bar. Moved next door to Rosieís which was very busy and the girls were certainly having a good time, bought a few lady drinks for a girl behind the bar but decided to move on to Martinees. I like this place and have had some good luck in the past but some of what was on offer was not of the highest quality to say the least. Approached by quite a few but clicked with a lass called Da[ khymer] who was around a 7 in looks and turned out to be really sweet. Back in the room she was good, but BJ poor. After a session in the morning she was off and I think if I was staying a bit longer I would have tried her again.

Second day bought DVDíS and lunch at The Rising Sun [excellent food]. Went out late that night and revisited Rosieís and chatted to a couple of the girls and shared drinks for about an hour but was due to meet friends at Zanzibar across the road. Definitely my favourite bar Ė it was really good fun with the girls dancing on the bar. A few shots were downed and I took a fancy to one of girls dancing, it was only when she got down I realized she was really small less that 5 feet. Anyway barfined her [canít remember her name but you canít miss her ] and apart from being scared of the lift, she was bloody great and a great little fuck and very energetic. If I get back soon, she would definitely be worth looking up again. No BJ offered but the rest made up for that Ė a real load of fun in a little package.

Phnom Penh has changed a little since I was last there but is still a great place for a bit of fun. Prices for the girls seem to have risen a little, 25LT Martinees and 30 LT at Zanzibar, one mate was asked for 40USD at one of the hostess bars!

Joe Nailer
01-14-08, 15:45
Can anyone recommend a pharmacy in central Phnom Penh that has a reputation for carrying only real drugs, no fakes?

I say that because I'm in Saigon now where there is one pharmacy (My Chau on Hai Ba Trung street) that's always recommended by doctors in western clinics, and lots and lots of them that will sell you anything.Wendella,

This post may be in HCMC thread, but some may find it useful if coming to HCMC...

I have been to My Chau on Hai Ba Trung as I was recommended. I went there not for enhancers, but other medications I need. But there were so many people when I went there, and not a VN speaker, it could not put a word in. So I gave up.

Have you actaully bought V or C or generics there? If you have, how much did you pay?

Thanks

SoftLover
01-14-08, 17:36
Try Pharmacie Socheat at #50 Street 136. Its a 30 second walk from Central Market. Check out my previous post at:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491051&postcount=1214

I have bought generic Cialis, Roche-branded Valium, antibiotics, etc. from them. Always good stuff, but check the expiration dates just to make sure. My mate picked me up a stash of generic C when he went there last and gave it to me when we met up in Manila. Keeps my pecker full of wood when I need it. Good luck, AsianRain
If you ask me, the "generic Cialis" at $ 3.50 for 4 pills, is simply a fake. Compare the box with the originals with the holographic logos. The packing sheet, the color of the pills are different. Above all, the effect was zero in my case. I threw the remaining tablets away.

Franga
01-15-08, 16:30
I was in one of the 63 st brothels today. Met a Khmer guy, who was most likely a moto driver. He told me that the prices of the girls are $3 to $5. Probably the $5 girls are the cute ones. However it appears that the falang price is $10, and this is what I have paid every time in 5 different brothels in this area.
Good luck getting the local price. If you are a hard-assed bargainer it might work for you. There seems to be a fair bit of tourist traffic through these brothels so I am led to believe that the people running the brothels will be all working together to extract the falang price from the tourist mongerer.

Phantomtiger2
01-16-08, 00:47
I was in one of the 63 st brothels today. Met a Khmer guy, who was most likely a moto driver. He told me that the prices of the girls are $3 to $5. Probably the $5 girls are the cute ones. However it appears that the falang price is $10, and this is what I have paid every time in 5 different brothels in this area.
Good luck getting the local price. If you are a hard-assed bargainer it might work for you. There seems to be a fair bit of tourist traffic through these brothels so I am led to believe that the people running the brothels will be all working together to extract the falang price from the tourist mongerer.

If moto tells you $3, then this is only a price a local Cambo will get (local pay about $2-3 on avg). $5 can be had only at some places and only with certain gals within the place and only after a bit of haggling and sometimes only if you are a repeat customer. But since you are referring to St 63 brothels, bottom line is don't bother wasting any money feeding those stealing bastards, best to put them out of business than giving them your business-IMO


PT

Prince Harry
01-16-08, 17:47
You guys are such tight areses. I appreciate that the PT knows Cambodia well, but actually he doesnt.

Inflation is rampant here and one can't expect to pay the price that motos pay. These poor buggers make a few dollars a day and we make hundreds-get real here.

Cambodia is still great value, but why do people still go to the old haunts like Walkabou, Sharkey and Martini?

Pay a bit more and meet fine young women at 136 street, 104 street etc etc. Learning a little of the language makes a huge difference, ask any resident. Don't be a typical dickhead tourist and expand your horizons-there are beautiful women available everywhere.

Franga
01-17-08, 14:45
Today I went off for the usual bang at the 63 st brothels. Funny thing was that they wouldn't let me into 4 of the brothels that I tried.
I am being led to believe that I am being blacklisted, possibly because the pimps realise that it is not possible to steal from me (because I am ultracautious with my gear) while I am doing the deed in the room.

When I asked why at one place the guy said ""$15 massage boom boom", even though last time I was there they let me in for $10usd.
At least the brothels in 154st still let me in!

Opebo
01-17-08, 15:02
These poor buggers make a few dollars a day and we make hundreds-get real here.


I think, perhaps, Prince Harry, that you overestimate the affluence of the membership here.

Mai Yao
01-18-08, 18:42
Several days ago, the BANGKOK POST carried a short report about a foriegn (western) Phnom Penh bar owner who, along with his Cambodian GF (also business partner) was sentenced to eight years in prison for requiring his "waitresses" to have sex with customers in upstairs rooms over the bar.

The report made no mention of the bars name. This certainly describes a number of well known P.P. venues but I have seen no reports of any of these establishments being closed. Does anybody know who the owner was and which bar???

Mart Cham
01-18-08, 23:01
Several days ago, the BANGKOK POST carried a short report about a foriegn (western) Phnom Penh bar owner who, along with his Cambodian GF (also business partner) was sentenced to eight years in prison for requiring his "waitresses" to have sex with customers in upstairs rooms over the bar.

The report made no mention of the bars name. This certainly describes a number of well known P.P. venues but I have seen no reports of any of these establishments being closed. Does anybody know who the owner was and which bar???The bar they mentioned was called APOCALYPSE NOW and was managed by a Frenchman, along with his khmer girlfriend. The last news concern the appeal trial as the first judgment was given in december of 2006.

Dinghy
01-18-08, 23:47
must have just not paid enough to the POLICE - it's virtually a condition of employment - "Go upstairs with customers"; "Go out with customers".

Prince Harry
01-19-08, 23:34
Went out for a look around with my fat friend last night,I don't get out much any more.

We started at the khmer beer garden on 172 which had warm beer and ten khmer singers,not a great start to the night.

We then strolled down to the shanghai where I had been told there had been a huge staff turnover,again.This would have been due to the fact that they had too many beautiful girls who would not go with customers,again.

Not a problem for residents who could use it as a local and cultivate girls over time,but no good for those who blow through(so to speak).

I was told that they had been recruiting at Martini!

Well the story was true,oh my god it was awful.

Instead of the bar being lined with beauties,it was lined with horrors apart from a few of the old guard-STAY AWAY.

Next we ambled down to 154 where my fat friend had been propositioned by a spruiker earler in the night.Sure enough the same chap ushered us into one of those little karaoke joints where a group of disinterested young girls sat.

There were also several young khmer men inside who may have been the boyfriends-not a great look.

Anyway we were offered girls for ten dollar which is a surprisingly cheap openning price for what appeared to be a couple of tourists.

This scene not being our cup of tea we decided to walk over to the lady boy bar on 19 behind the palace,whilst over there we had a look at the opulent new boutique hotel,the pavilion-WOW.

The lady boy bar is a large disco/night club which has a stage and a floor show but it was completely deserted at 9 o clock-must come back at midnight another night.
Into the tuk and off to the usual haunts,mikado and cyrcee,the tuk of course had no idea where to go and blundered off towards the riverside.Don't all tourists want to go to the riverside-well actually you dickhead-NO.

Le cyrcee had fewer girls than usual due to a birthday party and several barang but it still had it's share of stars.

My mate who is a regular pointed out three lovely girls,two of them vietnamese who have star quality-one lithe stunner in short shorts and a smaller top he claims she gives one of the best blow jobs in the world!

But were we distracted-not your intrepid reporter,one campari and we strolled up to the mikado along the newly sealed road.

Yes,for all you old hands,phnom penh is changing,they have tar sealed 49!
No more potholes that would swallow a small sedan,no more jumping over huge puddles in a wet season downpour,no more wet feet on the way to the short time hotel across the road.

Mikado had a reasonable number of girls and only one barang so we sipped campari and played with breasts and genitalia.My mate couldn't help himself and went upstairs briefly-still 15 bucks but he got a dud.

I made a date to return to my little companion who promised a superior yum yum including CIM.

I have promised my american friend who has been here for yonks but never visited the holy grails of cyrcee and mikado that we shall visit next week and I can then post a report with some actual action not empty rhetoric.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

ButtLover
01-20-08, 20:05
Hello
I am going to PP in late Mars.
I want to try groupmongering, but i dont want to try it with other ISG members.
I am thinking of "picking up" --if you can say so, 1-2 local cambodiaguys (not gay) and then let them help me to find one or 2 girls willing to do several guys, photo is a must !

Advices are velcome !

BL

Orange Sunshine
01-22-08, 02:05
The report made no mention of the bars name. This certainly describes a number of well known P.P. venues but I have seen no reports of any of these establishments being closed. Does anybody know who the owner was and which bar???I don't know if this a reliable source:

http://www.adetocqueville.com/200801150528.m0f5suh26614.htm

Gagoo
01-22-08, 05:06
Me and a fellow mongerer I met a couple months ago met up again and went from Thailand to PP for one night, then went to Siem Reap for 2 nights and then back to PP for one more night before heading back to Bangkok.

We made the trip to Cambodia with little planning so we didn't know what to really expect.

We only had one night so we wanted to check out as many places as we could. Stayed at the Cara hotel, it is a pretty nice place and didn't mind letting my buddy take a girl to his room overnight. I think her name was Aren or Alen or something, more on that later.

First we walked around and didn't know where to walk to, so we finally agreed to pay a tuk tuk about $3 an hour. I had made a list of places to go from info I found here on the forums. First place we went to was Mikado's. Well we were the only 2 guys there and we were both swarmed with about 6 girls each. I was suprised none of them asked us to buy them drinks. Anyways it was fun being groped, fed peanuts and girls sitting on my lap feeding me and feeling me up and getting all mushy. They kept saying let's go up stairs and I said how much. They said $15 short time... that kind of blew my mind. I was paying much more in Thailand which I know is cheap in the first place. They offered LT for $30. They suggested I take 2 or 3 girls if I want. My buddy wanted one of my girls versus his girls, so I let him choose the one he wanted and I took 2 girls for my self. I noticed that it seems like most working girls in Cambodia have a baby already, didn't bother me though, the girls pretty much only took turns on me versus both all over me like I wish they would have been, but it was a good time and they did not rush at all. OK, had a good time and left to find more places, we asked the bartender, who was probably the owner where Cyrcee's was, he was nice enough to tell us it was right down the road.

We walked to Cyrcee's and pretty much the same seen as Mikado's, I think the owner was French or something, nice guy though. I saw quite a few cuties in there, but we had just finished with girls in Mikado's so we had no interest in taking girls upstairs for boom boom. It was tempting to try because I saw a few I really liked. Some of the girls in there seemed kind of young though, maybe borderline 18. And it seems like when you ask most ladies in Cambodia how old they are, the answer is 20. Anyways the girls started out sweet then got sour after awhile since we showed no interest in taking them for boom boom. An interesting thing happened, about 6 Japanese guys walked in, and walked straight up stairs with girls going with them. Me and my buddy were wondering what just happened. Then a minute later they all come downstairs and the guys leave. I guess they had no clue about what was going on. Anyways left and went to Martini's.

Got to Martini's and found it quite a change of pace. We got swarmed as soon as we got there. I couldn't figure out why some guys get left a lone and we are targets of the ladies desires..haha Anyways had Cambodian girls and Viet girls, we just wanted to check it out, not take any girls. After some Cambodian girls spent time with us, we decided it was time to leave, well momasan said we had to give the girls a couple bucks since they spent time with us.. we were thinking crap!! Well we gave them 1 dollar each and left, they didn't seem happy, but me and my friend didn't mind losing a buck.

Next place was Sharkey's. Nice sports bar kind of place. Had some food, flirted with the girls behind the counter, then some girls asked us to play pool, so decided to go a head and play. They seem to play by the same rules they play with in Thailand. Anyways had various girls looking at me as if I could go get them if I wanted to, but.. I had no power, especially after being in Thailand for awhile already. When it came to closing time 2AM I think, one of the girls, who I later found out has someone that I think is a twin sister, asked me to go to a disco with her, and she could show me around PP. I asked my friend if he wanted to go, but he took an offer from a girl named Aren, or was it Alen. He just wanted to go back to the hotel, so I went back to the hotel too, without a lady for myself. I later found out she has a hot sister, which I took on out last night in PP, that will be in a different report.
Oh...my friend didn't talk money with the girl, he just gave her $20 in the morning and she didn't complain and didn't seem to look to see what he gave her, he ended up getting her number for our final night in PP.

Overall a good time in PP, the front desk arranged a taxi for us to go to Siem Reap for an agreed price of $55. We didn't mind paying since we had such a short time in Cambodia. If you ask around most guys will want more than $100 to take you there.. You can take a bus for $10 or less, but if you try to book late at night, it might be full for the next day as it was in our case.

El Greco
01-22-08, 07:55
Overall a good time in PP, the front desk arranged a taxi for us to go to Siem Reap for an agreed price of $55. We didn't mind paying since we had such a short time in Cambodia. If you ask around most guys will want more than $100 to take you there.. You can take a bus for $10 or less, but if you try to book late at night, it might be full for the next day as it was in our case.


Hi Gagoo

Nice report and thank you for sharing.

Can you please advise how many hours was your drive to Siem Reap and drivers info maybe?

Thanks

PinkPearl
01-22-08, 13:32
The mosquitos looked awful at the airport a few weeks ago. As they swarmed the outside ceiling lights I was reminded of the machines entering the loading dock of Zion in The Matrix trilogy. Of course they were inside the nearby restaurants area and the airport bath- room as well.

Traveler1234
01-23-08, 00:57
The bar they mentioned was called APOCALYPSE NOW and was managed by a Frenchman, along with his khmer girlfriend. The last news concern the appeal trial as the first judgment was given in december of 2006.

Owner is 'Bruno'....

Owl_
01-23-08, 03:01
Now that would be a sight to see!!! LOL


The mosquitos looked awful at the airport a few weeks ago. As they swarmed the outside ceiling lights I was reminded of the machines entering the loading dock of Zion in The Matrix trilogy. Of course they were inside the nearby restaurants area and the airport bath- room as well.

Jeff7669
01-23-08, 14:19
Brothel in Phnompen especially at the places where it looks like a shop house with part of the door is close is stealing your money. Boom boom cost at this place will cost you around 15 to 20 usd.

We initially did not realise this and thought that we have overspend it some where else. So we put a trap and really count our money before going for a boom boom. True enought, whey you are scre*** the girl or when the girl give you a massage ( with you head down facing the pillow ), someone from outside will open the door and will go thru you wallet. They will always leave some money behind in order for you not to be suspicious.

So guys - be extra carefull when you doing your bussiness at this brothel. You have been warned. It is safe to bring just enought money for the tuk tuk + boom boom and return. Or hold to your money in your hand while your boom boom the girl.

Hollow Man
01-23-08, 17:44
so guys - be extra carefull when you doing your bussiness at this brothel. you have been warned. it is safe to bring just enought money for the tuk tuk + boom boom and return. or hold to your money in your hand while your boom boom the girl.in places of high corruption it's always better to be safe than sorry.

it's one reason i pack light and am ready to move with my 1 duffel luggage. case in point, there was this one time i took a khmer girl from sharky's back to the room and she seemed nice although she refused bj and then when leaving i gave her $10. she insisted that short-time was $20 and i told her it was $10. she then proceeded to tell me how i gave her friend $20. i replied with the fact that her friend did yum-yum and also let me take pictures (which this girl refused). after another futile attempt she realized i'm a pro too so she made a face and left but i noticed that when outside my room she looked up at my room number for a few seconds before she left.

i sighed and just packed my bag and moved to another nearby hotel. no use griping about shit like this. just consider it common sense.

although most times things are fine. there may be that one time you take a chick to your room and she later comes with the cops and has your ass arrested and claims [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) (or she may have lied about her age) so you have to pay $2000 in bribe money which goes to her, the cops (who are in on the whole thing) and possibly a judge. this has happened and still happens.

no need to be phobic paranoid but just have some common street sense and stay safe. tourists are considered pinatas. better to be hit for $10-20 than hit for $1000-2000.

lesson on cambodian police. it a purchased position so they ave to pay a few hundred to a few thousand dollars to get the job. they are paid like $50 a month. so how do they make money? . they stop people on the street to claim violations and fine them. $. wealthy khmer pay (bribe) cops to do muscle work for them which at times is throwing people off their farm and claiming it as their own (land-grabbing). $$. someone wants to report a crime. they have to pay the cops to look into it. $. by some grace of god they catch someone they think is the culprit. the accused's family pays (bribes) the cops to let him go $$$.

i don't really use the word bribe since i have to wonder can you call it a bribe if it's part of their standard method of salary?

with all this said. the khmer people are generally good people and i have several very good khmer friends. its the officials that are the corrupt ones unfortunately.

Matt Navan Man
01-23-08, 20:22
Owner is 'Bruno'....

Don't you mean "Owner was Bruno". LOL

Apocolypse Now is surely confined to the film version forever more!

Traveler1234
01-23-08, 20:26
Don't you mean "Owner was Bruno". LOL

Apocolypse Now is surely confined to the film version forever more!


He he....having lunch w/ one of the owners of Sharkey next week and will ask him for the real story - Bruno probably forgot to make his monthly 'donation'.

Giotto
01-23-08, 20:39
The bar they mentioned was called APOCALYPSE NOW and was managed by a Frenchman, along with his khmer girlfriend. The last news concern the appeal trial as the first judgment was given in december of 2006.I thought APOCALYPSE NOW was in HCM? There was one in PP, too?


Giotto

Chukichz
01-23-08, 20:42
My 2nd trip to Cambodia but 1st to PP. I'm not that much of a bar monger. I much prefer the AMP scene. Similar to SR, there are many AMPs in PP that do not offer even HJ. Very much different from BKK. I was staying at the Bougainvilla Hotel. I would definitely not recommend. Very unfriendly, poor service and at a higher rate. Room was nice, however, but constant construction noise. Personally, I think PP is a shithole and I would not return. Touts everywhere, you can't walk a few feet without somebody hitting on you for something. Over crowded and traffic that is as close to anarchy as you can get. I thought the traffic in China was bad but it's pretty tame compared to PP. I chose my hotel because it was on the river and I was taking a boat the next day. I've stayed in many places around the world many of which are 3rd world, but I have to say PP is probably the worst place I've encountered.

That Asshole
01-24-08, 01:09
phnom penh cambodia 2008. (classified secret information! )

- for sex-tourists.

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1. / general

one long time classic in sex-tourist circles, phnom penh the capital of cbs "cambodia beggar state" is always sure to please. it has everything: short time joints, dirt shit, gore. whatever you want. it is overwhelming, noisy, arrogant but never boring. guaranteed! i personally found out in a unique way on this trip. apart from the sex there is not much to do, except maybe strolling around town and trying to avoid the hateful motos. at the end of the day, trying to wash off all the dirt, crap and shit from your clothes and feet will also fill a fair amount of time.

the "beggar state of cambodia" is geographically well blessed and visually pleasing. it has a blossoming tourist industry, well based on "dead rocks and dead bones", apart from the lucrative trade of living female flesh. it's only problem is that it is inhabited by cambodians who when not busy annoying tourists, enjoy robbing each other silly and littering dirt around. don't blame me, this is what i observed. tell us if it isn't so and why not. however, apart from these negatives, the sex is good. all you need to do is avoid the cambodians and concentrate on the guest vietnamese workers. are they pretty! and they have culture too.

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2. / travel

arriving at phnom penh airport, you can purchase cambodian tourist visas for the prescribed $20 fee. there is a slow moving queue but few hassles. the airport now has a tourist bus that runs to downtown. apart from that a moto costs $2-3, and a taxi $7. arriving by land, the town has several bus transport companies, each one with it's own terminal. luckily, most (but not all) are found around the central market (psar tmey).

here moto taxi drivers will throng you, but a fare to one of the many hotels nearby shouldn't be more than 50c or so (2000 riels). there is also one daily boat arriving from siem reap (angkor ruined tourist gimmick town). for connections to battambang and thailand, see separate recent postings in "other areas" chapter.

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3. / accomodation, food, money, etc

official currency is the cambodian riel. closely fixed to the usd, around the rate of $1=4000riel. however, usd notes are generally accepted everywhere, even by beggars. (they prefer the larger notes). beggars also take large usd notes with small tears in them, however other shops do not. so it is worth to examine your change. changing money is easy, either at market money changers, jewellery shops, minimarts and many other places. phnom penh is overwhelmed by accomodotation choices.

a basic fan room starts from $5 and a simple but comfortable aircon from $15. looking around the central market area is a good start. especially streets #118, 130, 136 etc. yes, most streets are numbered so easy to handle by the mathematically minded. a few of them have names also. many khmer restaurants do not have english menus and do not welcome foreigners, unless they speak khmer. this limits your choices in terms of price, as tourist restaurants charge 2-3 times as much for exactly the same dishes. still, it's reasonably inexpensive to dine well. about $5-8 for a dinner with one drink, per person. the central sorya shopping center has an inexpensive foodhall and psar olympic has many cheap noodleshops in the evenings.

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4. / entertainment and sex venues in phnom penh

this used to be much better years ago. phnom penh's famous sophie club bj joint seem to have closed down recently (at least i haven't seen their ads for a while), which is a great loss. what is left is a couple of foreigner oriented st knocking shops, the ever growing multitude of female-chat bars (not recommended) and the traditional khmer/viet brothels. the good old peaceful times of k11 long gone, and now you must be very aware when visiting these. as foreigners seem to be welcome only to the extent of robbing them. haven't heard of anyone getting killed yet, however this might follow sometime. of course, it seems this is the result of pushing the trade underground.

taking it out of the hands of honest businessmen and throwing it to the dogs of maffia. beware, beware, it seems wherever the cops step in, the dirt will just grow uncontrollably. it would be much more sensible to legalize the trade and end the troubles. yes, that does might not fit in with the armed police of course who might suspect their business being cut in effect. what a world this is (and i not only mean cambodia)!

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some lovely sex stories

*** cute viets ***

after settling in to a reasonable room, went to change some thai bath to usd at the markets. luckily i counted it, as got $10 short changed.complained, and received the missing bill, but not even an apology. yes, just a mistake. so far i had lots of favorable experiences at the #63 street area, so went to have a look as the sun set. found one vietnamese brothel quite easily. had been here before but the papasan had changed since. all very pretty young chickens, 18-20yo looking. the deal was $7 for st which is very cheap (about 230 thai bath) and the girls very pretty, though not extremely keen.

i was asked to pay up front which i refused. just paid $2 and said that will give the rest to the girl when finished. service not famous but still good value for the price. walking along further, came across one khmer brothel which i also used to visit years ago. the old boss was great, but again there was a new manager this time. i don't like the kanbo fuckers at all, they give shitty service but as they were all cute i gave in and tried. as the previous pop was a hassle-free one, i sort of relaxed and complied with the request of paying $10 up front. the young girl attractive but rather unfriendly.

*** robber story ***

as i said i was so totally relaxed, i did not care any more and just threw all my belongings on the floor, next to the door. then instead of just playing around a bit, she insisted on giving a massage. sitting on my back. i tried to play with her soft skin behind me but was rebuffed every time. massage was crappy, but she kept it going. for too long. i got bored but was pushed back forcefully every time i attempted to turn. now this made me sort of annoyed and i did eventually turn, just to see the door closing. sound of feet running outside.

*** unbelieving ***

it was so totally unbelievable like a fucking car-accident on a beautiful sunday morning. "this is not real! ". was all i could think. because not being a first-timer but having visited these dirty fuck-joints so many times over the years. without any problems ever and ever! i had read the reports by others but as i never actually experienced anything than honest business, i did not care.

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having just arrived and freshly changed the money, i did not even sort out the bundles. there was quite a bit of money there. usd, thai bath, euros. as i shook her off, my girl made for the door. the towel covering her fell off and she ran naked for her life. i just jumped into my jeans and right after her in hot chase. that big house is like a labyrinth. stairs up and stairs down. of course, chasing her i could not run after the thief, which was already gone anyway. i was just wondering in unbelief: "where is all that money now? " it is not gonna send me broke but still so silly story.

*** big trouble ***

i do not want to hate these people. hate having to hate anyone. so many years and they had been good. i did make up my mind that this story had to be sorted out. right on the spot. the more delay the worse it is. i did make a terrible big scene. shouting and, well other things. my principles tell me that i cannot hit another man. it would feel like hitting my own head to the wall. so, i did not hit men. big-big trouble, the whole place turned upside down. i did not care, was sort of prepared to die (mind pretty clouded with adrenalin). finally one old woman appeared from somewhere and with authoritative voice told me to stop. my wallet would be returned soon.

*** wallet walks back ***

i was sort of unbelieving but did stop raging. she made one call on her mobile. one young khmer boy came with my wallet. mamasan (that old woman) in english, asked me to count it if it was all there. i looked inside. there was some bath, dollars and euros but i didn't actually know how much i had. so, only answered that "i don't know". i got dressed. then remembered my $10 that i paid for the fuck, which was aborted. mama gave that $10 back from her own purse. i handed her $3 and said a vague "thankyoo" for her help. than she examined my injuries (some minor scratches) and said goodbye. i walked out and left that fucking joint.

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*** better than sex ***

i wasn't really devastated. rather felt euphoric. wow, how exciting! it is like the movies, except for real! beats watching bruce willis shooting dead 200 men like himself within 2 hours. back in the hotel i added up the amounts i changed, etc and it seems all i had lost was about $25 + 1000b. amazing! for the price of two cinema tickets plus popcorn, i got all this real excitement. i would do it again. things like this give real spice to your trip.

and really there was no harm done. apart from the approx $55. but that's entertainment money. cheaper than a bad, impersonal fuck in pattaya. or a lot cheaper than the $60 i gave to the doctor to sew my head together in thailand some time before. i did not regret those. why should i regret this one? this one's a winner. try it for yourself! recommended. i marked it on the map below.

*** no harm done ***

on top of that, justice had already been served. i surely had stolen lots of things in my life. from individuals, shops, companies, our government. everyone has. even the cops. it's like the story with wanking. if you say you never, then you are a lier. no one is clean. so, what the fuck can i say? they did the same to me? well done, things put right again.

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- part 2.

*** micado root ***

to be honest this one was the very first of this kind of incident in 10 years of visiting cambodia. it is just losing $5/year. hardly worth the sweat. so, continued walking around the small streets of #154, 136 and side alleys. there are so many chicken shops everywhere. all pretty and inviting. just this language issue is in the way. without communication there is no trust. how can we do business with these khmer gentlemen? eventually made it to the circee/mikado area on #136 street.

sat down at mikado. all kambos here but some attractive. chose a cute young one. fuck, in the room turned out she had a kid. only the face was pretty. but service is still good, and one of the nicest, friendliest khmer females i ever met. we also watched some stupid porn which was something to fill the time after the root. just cuddling up on the bed. $15 total inc room +2 for drink. cheaper and better than pattaya. this was all the action for the first day. needless to say, i had a rotten sleepless night. replaying the events again and again. but still exciting. not ordinary or boring.

my fault, i simply grew careless after so many good times and many years. but good fun, nevertheless.

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next day:

*** barbers love foreigners ***

had to get a haircut (still have a few white strands left around the back). i usually i pay $1 in phnom penh. nowadays however nearly every barber in the central area has added to their list in english: "foreigner $2". what da fuck is that? welcome idiots, we love you? it is not the money but the bad feeling. had to walk far to find one for $1. 25. normal price, only khmer pricelist. as i said, it is not the money.

who will explain to them that you cannot just jack up the price without jacking up the service too. of course they cannot speak english. just point. look, "foreigner $2". excuse me, what if in the us a barbershop would charge $10 for everyone for a haircut, except $20 for khmers? every year the less i like these people. if it wasn't for the beautiful viets, i would never come back.

*** walkabout pick-up bar ***

after this sat down at the famous walkabout hotel. price of draft beer used to be an easy $1. now 1. 25. this place is real easy to find. right next to the "chip lay hotel" (really! ) which is across the road from "girl style" beautysalon. early afternoon, various quality of women. as expected, the men actually talk to them here as equals. one spoiled young khmer female comes over and offers a "short-time" for $20. plus she seems to expect me to court her too.

yes girl, move on. to your boyfriend who spoiled you. last time i paid $6 here for st. a year or two ago. another older viet woman is much nicer, real friendly. at her age must be. one joy is that age humbles all women. but i really did not come to kanbo and put up with all the shit, just to root oldies.

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*** language mix-ups ***

in the evening went back to the #63 street viet chicken-shop again. same deal $7. papasan is nice but the girls complain. no wanna root farang. what the fuck is this? papa shouts with the girl so she finally gives in. average service. but "cheap lay".so to speak. i only come back for the papasan. he is a nice guy. speaks a bit of english too. i am rather careful to choose, as some seem a bit young. not because i give a shit. just hate troubles. let's follow our laws and stay away from hungry dogs.

after finishing round one, we come down and i ask papa for one more, a real 19 year old. not younger! saying in khmer: "ayoo dop bram boon". papa seems to misunderstand and says "dop boon? " (meaning 14 year old). "sure will be here soon. " and makes one quick call on his handphone. fuck, i am frustrated with all this language barriers. my nice papa is gonna lay me now with a 14 yo? no way! i apologise and sneak out in a hurry, as fast as i can. who wants the shit. too old for this.

*** circee, in undies ***

i aim for the "circee bar" instead. the place has it's ups and downs but presently quite well supplied with beauties. and attitudes are good. i ask for a viet chick. they have two. they come around to sit in my lap. i check, now they have to wear undies in the bar. that's disguisting. last year they were nude under. but i see one khmer, more pretty than these two. lovely sweet young face. nice personality too. i send away the viets and chat with this one a bit. i take my chances and pay for this kanbo chick.

*** hot kanbo sperm-eater ***

turns out to be a knockout. horny as it gets. as we get into the room just pull each others clothes off and mouths are busy with cock and pussy. we didn't even wash at this stage. one nice fun splash follows in the shower with the cat. i like her playfulness. hardly 19 yet. very good hot fuck follows. as hot as an old ugly, hairy geriatric ever likely to get. surely she was a good choice. still cheap, $4 room, $15 girl and $2 drink. just 700 baht. i ask "sperm on face okay? ". she says "sure" and takes position lying on her back. sticky, smelly gunk flows all over her lovely mouth and neck. what a nice girl.

does everything to please old idiots. this place is good. the best in whole phnom penh. it has class. the boss must be a real genious. there should be so many more like it. but instead it's all just "chat-bars" that open. men are afraid of women. afraid of sex. so, they chat instead. and get mentally damaged in the process. isn't it much nicer to fuck first, and chat later. just a little bit.

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after circee i peep into a few "chat-bars" around st#118, 108, 94, etc. but it's scary. like most of us here on this forum, i never actually had a gf in my long life. we don't know what to chat with them. that's why we are sex-tourists! we prefer to root first and chat after. a little chat only. so, we can keep our sanity. women cannot say anything meaningful anyway. that's why they paint their faces instead. so, we talk with them. otherwise w/o tits and paint they would be just ignored. tell me if it isn't so, but that's what i have observed in the world.

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end phnom penh 2008 report. map attached

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Phantomtiger2
01-24-08, 01:39
Brothel in Phnompen especially at the places where it looks like a shop house with part of the door is close is stealing your money. Boom boom cost at this place will cost you around 15 to 20 usd.

We initially did not realise this and thought that we have overspend it some where else. So we put a trap and really count our money before going for a boom boom. True enought, whey you are scre*** the girl or when the girl give you a massage ( with you head down facing the pillow ), someone from outside will open the door and will go thru you wallet. They will always leave some money behind in order for you not to be suspicious.

So guys - be extra carefull when you doing your bussiness at this brothel. You have been warned. It is safe to bring just enought money for the tuk tuk + boom boom and return. Or hold to your money in your hand while your boom boom the girl.


Since you didn't name the location you visited, I assume you had the St 63 brothel experience. If that is the case then you have not read back on the many older posts that warn of such thefts (many of those warnings were from me by the way).
Also the normal prices for St 63 houses are $10 (and under), not the $15-20 you had mentioned as these are the starting prices are for the more honest places in PP.


PT

Gagoo
01-24-08, 02:19
Hi Gagoo

Nice report and thank you for sharing.

Can you please advise how many hours was your drive to Siem Reap and drivers info maybe?

Thanks


The first taxi was a little slow and cautious, it took him about 4 hours and 40 minutes. I had a feeling a taxi could do it in 4 hours. On the way back we had to negociate a taxi for $55 also, even though it was harder to find one for that price. The driver only took 4 hours flat and that was with a 10 minute stop. It seems like they aren't actually taxi's as in a business, just people using their cars or someone elses car to make a little money.

If it was just me I would have just taken the $10 bus, but I think that takes 5-6 hours. We looked in to the bus when we arrived in PP, but the morning one was full, they only had open seats on the afternoon one, but I didn't want to waste the whole day away on a bus.

I didn't take down any info about the drivers. I think any front desk, knows someone who will take you there for that price. The guy at Cara hotel said no problem when we asked him, so he has a friend or family member take you or something. The owner of the Golden Orange in Siem Reap was also able to find someone for the $55. He tried to change it to $60 when we got in, but my friend was firm on telling him $55, so we had no problems when we paid him. We didn't give any tip, we probably would have gave him $5 if he didn't try to change the price on us.

Chukichz
01-24-08, 08:20
Thanks Asshole. That was a great report. I obviously don't have your cojones. I guess I'm just getting too old for all the hassle. Again, interesting report and it expresses my thoughts exactly. You just put a better spin on it.

Jazzy Daddy
01-24-08, 19:11
Sophies has closed? I can't bear the thought, I arrive March 6. I just returned home from Rio and can't wait to hit PP, but if Sophies is closed...

Roguesta
01-25-08, 01:18
Sophie's was open as of a month ago when I was there.

Gagoo
01-25-08, 07:20
Sophies has closed? I can't bear the thought, I arrive March 6. I just returned home from Rio and can't wait to hit PP, but if Sophies is closed...


I was in Sophies on 14 January. It was open on that day. I didn't find it interesting. The momasan and ladies were suspicious of me and my friend for some reason. Momasan tried to talk to me in Khmer 2 times and asked me if I was Cambodian. Also no ladies would even come up to me. I'm half asian-caucasian and can pass many things; but I never have a lack of attention. This was the first time I wasn't approached in such a place. The girls were a little cautious of my white Canadian friend too. A fellow mongerer in Siem Reap said we should check out Sophies and all kinds of dirty deeds would happen to us in Sophies. No such luck for us, also they said no short time in the place. I think they offered my friend $30 LT takeout.

One thing I can say is, the drinks were cheap and very strong. Momasan accidently almost completely filled my glass with Jack, then put barely any coke in the glass, she asked if it was OK,.. I had no complaints. It was open on 14 January though.

Roguesta
01-25-08, 07:56
I didn't like it, either. I had one beer, with my friend, and left.

Jazzy Daddy
01-25-08, 18:31
Thanks for the info. I'm asian/american also and the only place I've found in all my travels where no less than 3 girls will have you unzipped, in their mouths and tag teaming you by the time your drink arrives, has been Sophies. I just returned from Rio and spent the majority of my mongering in Centro and Villa Mimosa, some don't like those venues but I like variety when I travel. Thanks again for the quick response.

AncntFornicatr
01-25-08, 22:09
The momasan and ladies were suspicious of me and my friend for some reason. Momasan tried to talk to me in Khmer 2 times and asked me if I was Cambodian. .

I suspect what you ran into was a fear on mamasan's part that you were a Cambodian working with one of the NGOs that tried to shut them down some time ago. An Asian with a Honky would fit that profile. Sorry about that.

RonnieMonger
01-26-08, 04:27
Interesting reading all these reports about robberies at 63 st. But it isn't just the brothels to worry about.

I once stayed at Casa (the hotel near what Phnom) and picked up a cute take-away LT from a bar on the roundabout across from what Phnom (next to that little place that does good pizza) the bar may have been called Cayote Ugly. Or it may have been another one next to it. Was a couple of years back. Anyway. The theft:

Brought the (Khmer) girl back banged her twice. Got a reluctant BBBJ and then called it a night. In the morning we had b'fast together and I considered another round with her next time (was leaving that day).

Back to the room to pack and shower and realized the TV remote control was gone. I searched every inch of the place over and over. It was gone and since we watched TV together several times, it was clear she took it. Hotel didn't notice. And I paid cash. No credit card.

Didn't try the disco or KTV there. To be honest it was a little intimidating. Sort of Asian gangster style with expensive cars and bodyguard drivers. Not worth the hassle/risk IMO.

Also the hotel was really noisy even on upper floors due to the disco. Needed ear plugs to sleep. Smae story in Phnom Penh Hotel. From the drunken Chinese sex tourists.

Mangofan
01-26-08, 09:50
About a year and half ago I was here and took a moto to Street 63. Went up the stairs, saw a bunch of Viet girls sitting around the room. The taxi driver was with me (he insisted on going up) The papasan quoted me $30!!! I assume that this was because the taxi driver was with me. I quickly walked out. Any way around this? How do I get there without having the taxi driver come up with me? (Last time I told him to stay put but he insisted on coming). I'd consider walking there (I"m staying at the Paragon at the moment), but don't really want to walk around this city at night.

Mangofan
01-26-08, 10:24
A brief report thus far....

Sharky's - walked over there last night about 10 pm. Had one drink then walked out as didn't see any lookers. No Vietnemese were there for some reason.

Rose - took a motodop over to Rose and sat down at the bar. Quite crowded. All of the girls working behind the bar are real lookers, and most have fucking huge tits. Sadly I don't think any of these girls are available for ST or LT. Chatted up a cute Khmer girl but it was quite clear from her push-up bra and stretch marks that she has a kid and was trying to hide the fact (wouldn't let me look at her stomach). It was raining so I ran over to Zanzibar

Zanzibar - great bar but I think most of the girls here are hostesses. A few of the girls here are sisters. Chatted with a few of them for a while but all of them wanted me to buy them drinks. I bought two of them drinks and the other two turned bitchy. Finally got down to one that I really liked but when I invited her home with me she told me that she had to stay and work until 5 am. No idea on prices. Left at 1:30, was going to go to Le Cyrcee but just said fuck it and went home.

Gonna try Martinis tonight and hopefully will have better luck.

Gagoo
01-27-08, 00:25
i suspect what you ran into was a fear on mamasan's part that you were a cambodian working with one of the ngos that tried to shut them down some time ago. an asian with a honky would fit that profile. sorry about that.


i've seen a few shows on tv lately that where some westerners would go around with some cops and go around busting places in asia for having **** girls. one show was in india and the other show was in cambodia.
sometimes the westerner guy would waste too much time talking and doing no action to the **** girls, then the momasan or papasan would get pissed and accuse them of being cops, or even threatened to kill them.

i figured me and my friend sort of fit in to the profile of being under cover.

Cepu19
01-27-08, 01:14
you could hardly suggest that the sophies girls were ****!

Gagoo
01-27-08, 11:56
you could hardly suggest that the sophies girls were ****!


none onthe girls looked **** to be, so i don't know why they are so cautious, and i don't know why they lock the front door. as first timers there, we thought they were closed but decided to knock on the door and they opened it. then , they locked the door again.

my overly cautious friend felt some of the girls were borderline, i didn't pay much attention as i wasn't interested in anything there.

Cepu19
01-27-08, 12:02
Considering prostitution and assisting prostitution is illegal in Cambodia that might be why they prefer LE not to come in while someone is getting a BJ sample in the bar.

This is why they have beds in the back rooms and then take them out, only to put them back in and take them out again.

Some of the place get around the law by seperating the rooms from the bar, others by paying off the cops, there has been constant roumours that Sophies failed to pay off the cops enough and hence the frequent problems

Hollow Man
01-27-08, 12:40
About a year and half ago I was here and took a moto to Street 63. Went up the stairs, saw a bunch of Viet girls sitting around the room. The taxi driver was with me (he insisted on going up) The papasan quoted me $30!!! I assume that this was because the taxi driver was with me. I quickly walked out. Any way around this? How do I get there without having the taxi driver come up with me? (Last time I told him to stay put but he insisted on coming). I'd consider walking there (I"m staying at the Paragon at the moment), but don't really want to walk around this city at night.You would need to find a new moto driver . But seriously, if it really is an issue then I'd suggest directing him. Just get on and tell him go. Direct him on which turns to make and then tell him to stop when you are about a block away and then pay him. You walk a block and that should be the end of it. Knowing the directions shouldn't be too hard since everything is within 10 blocks and if you are staying further out then that's probably because you know the hotels and your way around already.

Cepu19
01-28-08, 02:28
I had a quick overnight trip to PP, r&r on a business trip. You just got to love the place.

I arrived and hired a small motorcycle to make me more mobile. I stayed at Asisa hotel this time. I had one of the rooms with mirrors all over.

Toul Kork and the Toll Road
First I inspected a few of the places for daytime action. A trip down through Toul Kork demonstrated a place that is not what it used to be. There are houses but the girls are not as keen on white fellows and there seems to be less girls of less Quality.

I have a place on the Toll road on the way out towards the mass graves. I canít remember the exact name but I think it is on 271 just next to the two sharp bends in the road. There is a cluster of 4 to 5 houses on the road side. I cruised through a few times but found a bit of reluctance to take me.

I was waved in by a sweet young thing about 20 who was competing for my attention with two other girls available in this house. I turned out to be a decent choice. She was sweet. A bit reluctant to do a BJ but with a bit of coaching she did perform ok. Nice solid banging showing that fun can still be had for $5 plus $2 tip.

Walkabout Girl
Early afternoon I went to the Walkabout for a beer. There seem to be new talent in the old zest pool. There I saw probably the best ST I have had in PP for years. Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height letís say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers.

I sat down and her radar quickly got locked in. She never approached but made it clear she was there for the taking. I approached her with ST $10 her reply was no I donít go for less than $25!!! By then the one eyed monster was doing most of the thinking. I bargained and bargained but she was not moving. I ended up with $20 for two pops. Too much I know, but she had me mesmerised.

We are back on my bike but I have to wait while she SMSed her boyfriend! I presume it might have been her Khmer pimp although I donít think the Walkabout girls generally are pimped Ė maybe it is only the boyfriend. She said she always did that before going.

As we entered the room she was confident but yet demure. I suggest that I only do bareback; she tells me that she only do condoms and offer to do a BBBJ but not sex. She is prepared to walk out on that one so I agree. Here she breaks the mole from many other PP girls.

She really genuinely seems horny and starts to undress me. In no time we are both naked on the bed. She had a very hairy pussy which I like and I quickly start to eat her pussy. She really gets very horny and wet. I move back up on her and kiss her tits and mouth. Suddenly but assertively she pulls me over her and I enter her bare back!!!! Why all the arguing first? She makes it clear that I have to cum outside which I respect.

She does a mean cowboy in an effort who would put many rodeo riders to shame, she cum a second time in a very strong orgasm. I am getting close to my destination and roll her over so I can exit at the appropriate time. The sex was simply such that despite only having had sex a few hours before I came in a strong orgasm. She was smiling at me with cum across her nose and hair. A memory I will carry with me forever.

We shower and return to bed. She is not in a hurry and we talk about life and everything. I ask her to stay long time and to go out dancing with me but she say she canít as she has some family commitments at home. Ok I suppose even working girls have a private life.

Second round starts slow and loving growing increasingly passionate. I think the arse would have been open to inspection but it is not my thing so I did not ask. She has clearly been on the scene for some time but still seem fresh and open.

We part ways and I give her $20 which she is perfectly happy with.

A quick scan of the scene
I have a quick look down 63rd street without seeing anything of interest. I cruise around Hun Sen Park and in this late afternoon a surprising number of street workers are out. My Walkabout girl session had taken it out of me, so I did not buy, just checking out.

Next trip I will return to Svay Pak for a look, this time I did not have time and I am sure I missed nothing.

I had my meal at the Riverside restaurant. Just love their German sausages. After a bit of hostess bar hopping I hit Martini around 9 pm.

Martini
The place was rocking ok but still not as it used to be. I quickly committed to a sweet Viet girl, skinny but with a really sweet face. We settled on $25 LT and set on drinking and dancing the night away. Best as things were going; my Walkabout girls come into the disco. She sees me and proceeds to claim me as a long lost boyfriend. My Viet girl had different intentions and it almost ended up in a cat fight. Out of the two I would have taken the Walkabout girl. The Viet girl had the looks but the Walkabout girl the personality and she really had rocked my world. At that point in time I had committed to the Viet girl and I thought it wrong to change. Also the Walkabout girl made it clear that only ST was on the menu.

I returned to base around 1 am with my Viet girl. This turned out to be a mistake. In the room she turned hard and business like. She undresses and hit the shower and after splashing water everywhere returns towel wrapped and I did my ceremony too before returning to unwrap her. The blow job is mechanical and to pussy licking only a gesture. No bareback problem here, but it was just one of those sessions that never really happened. After one shot I decide to call it the day, choosing good sleep before my onward journey over bad sex. Just at that stage I would have given a kingdom for the phone number of my Walkabout girl.

A brief 24 hours in PP to show the town although not its former self still have a lot to offer. I wish I had the phone number or even the name (she told me but I forgot) on my walkabout girl. A photo of her just now would capture my memories of a great 24 hours when I go back to work slaving away waiting for the next opportunity to go to paradise but my broken camera broke that dream.

If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Romeo Blue
01-28-08, 21:04
Guy, i know this Girl!
I hope you used Condomes, since she is HIV psitive for about 6 month.
Be carefull with her.




A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass? ) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers.

Gagoo
01-29-08, 01:05
Considering prostitution and assisting prostitution is illegal in Cambodia that might be why they prefer LE not to come in while someone is getting a BJ sample in the bar.

This is why they have beds in the back rooms and then take them out, only to put them back in and take them out again.

Some of the place get around the law by seperating the rooms from the bar, others by paying off the cops, there has been constant roumours that Sophies failed to pay off the cops enough and hence the frequent problems


Some fellow mongerers told us we could get BJ samples in Sophies, we thought that would be something interesting to check-out. Well, it didn't happen for us. I don't know if it was only for us that they didn't do it, or if they where just careful for the time being.

Gagoo
01-29-08, 01:16
I had a quick overnight trip to PP, r&r on a business trip. You just got to love the place.

I arrived and hired a small motorcycle to make me more mobile. I stayed at Asisa hotel this time. I had one of the rooms with mirrors all over.

Toul Kork and the Toll Road
First I inspected a few of the places for daytime action. A trip down through Toul Kork demonstrated a place that is not what it used to be. There are houses but the girls are not as keen on white fellows and there seems to be less girls of less Quality.

I have a place on the Toll road on the way out towards the mass graves. I canít remember the exact name but I think it is on 271 just next to the two sharp bends in the road. There is a cluster of 4 to 5 houses on the road side. I cruised through a few times but found a bit of reluctance to take me.

I was waved in by a sweet young thing about 20 who was competing for my attention with two other girls available in this house. I turned out to be a decent choice. She was sweet. A bit reluctant to do a BJ but with a bit of coaching she did perform ok. Nice solid banging showing that fun can still be had for $5 plus $2 tip.

Walkabout Girl
Early afternoon I went to the Walkabout for a beer. There seem to be new talent in the old zest pool. There I saw probably the best ST I have had in PP for years. Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height letís say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers.

I sat down and her radar quickly got locked in. She never approached but made it clear she was there for the taking. I approached her with ST $10 her reply was no I donít go for less than $25!!! By then the one eyed monster was doing most of the thinking. I bargained and bargained but she was not moving. I ended up with $20 for two pops. Too much I know, but she had me mesmerised.

We are back on my bike but I have to wait while she SMSed her boyfriend! I presume it might have been her Khmer pimp although I donít think the Walkabout girls generally are pimped Ė maybe it is only the boyfriend. She said she always did that before going.

As we entered the room she was confident but yet demure. I suggest that I only do bareback; she tells me that she only do condoms and offer to do a BBBJ but not sex. She is prepared to walk out on that one so I agree. Here she breaks the mole from many other PP girls.

She really genuinely seems horny and starts to undress me. In no time we are both naked on the bed. She had a very hairy pussy which I like and I quickly start to eat her pussy. She really gets very horny and wet. I move back up on her and kiss her tits and mouth. Suddenly but assertively she pulls me over her and I enter her bare back!!!! Why all the arguing first? She makes it clear that I have to cum outside which I respect.

She does a mean cowboy in an effort who would put many rodeo riders to shame, she cum a second time in a very strong orgasm. I am getting close to my destination and roll her over so I can exit at the appropriate time. The sex was simply such that despite only having had sex a few hours before I came in a strong orgasm. She was smiling at me with cum across her nose and hair. A memory I will carry with me forever.

We shower and return to bed. She is not in a hurry and we talk about life and everything. I ask her to stay long time and to go out dancing with me but she say she canít as she has some family commitments at home. Ok I suppose even working girls have a private life.

Second round starts slow and loving growing increasingly passionate. I think the arse would have been open to inspection but it is not my thing so I did not ask. She has clearly been on the scene for some time but still seem fresh and open.

We part ways and I give her $20 which she is perfectly happy with.

A quick scan of the scene
I have a quick look down 63rd street without seeing anything of interest. I cruise around Hun Sen Park and in this late afternoon a surprising number of street workers are out. My Walkabout girl session had taken it out of me, so I did not buy, just checking out.

Next trip I will return to Svay Pak for a look, this time I did not have time and I am sure I missed nothing.

I had my meal at the Riverside restaurant. Just love their German sausages. After a bit of hostess bar hopping I hit Martini around 9 pm.

Martini
The place was rocking ok but still not as it used to be. I quickly committed to a sweet Viet girl, skinny but with a really sweet face. We settled on $25 LT and set on drinking and dancing the night away. Best as things were going; my Walkabout girls come into the disco. She sees me and proceeds to claim me as a long lost boyfriend. My Viet girl had different intentions and it almost ended up in a cat fight. Out of the two I would have taken the Walkabout girl. The Viet girl had the looks but the Walkabout girl the personality and she really had rocked my world. At that point in time I had committed to the Viet girl and I thought it wrong to change. Also the Walkabout girl made it clear that only ST was on the menu.

I returned to base around 1 am with my Viet girl. This turned out to be a mistake. In the room she turned hard and business like. She undresses and hit the shower and after splashing water everywhere returns towel wrapped and I did my ceremony too before returning to unwrap her. The blow job is mechanical and to pussy licking only a gesture. No bareback problem here, but it was just one of those sessions that never really happened. After one shot I decide to call it the day, choosing good sleep before my onward journey over bad sex. Just at that stage I would have given a kingdom for the phone number of my Walkabout girl.

A brief 24 hours in PP to show the town although not its former self still have a lot to offer. I wish I had the phone number or even the name (she told me but I forgot) on my walkabout girl. A photo of her just now would capture my memories of a great 24 hours when I go back to work slaving away waiting for the next opportunity to go to paradise but my broken camera broke that dream.

If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

I can't believe you go around screwing all these girls without condoms.
I never found a really hairy pussy attractive either. I prefer bald as it can get. Everyone has their preference though. But I only do bareback with non-working girls.

Ekspat
01-29-08, 02:05
Some fellow mongerers told us we could get BJ samples in Sophies,
Not just samples, they do it to completion. :D
At least the last time I've been there.
Cheers!

Cepu19
01-29-08, 02:25
People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.

We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.

I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.

By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.

Romeo Blue
01-29-08, 12:39
Walkabout girl

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I am not that concerned about that from my side. Risk of transmission from a HIV positive female to a male (with out sores or active venerial diseases) is 1 in 2000. Given I am circumcised the risk if further extended by up to 60%. So yes she could have infected me but the likelyhood from a single intercourse is very low.



People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.

We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.

I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.

By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.

Roguesta
01-29-08, 15:51
People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.

We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.

I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.

By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.


Cepu19: Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong. It is very early, and I just woke up. Are you saying that you are HIV positive? If you are, then it is correct that you will not get it again, but you'll certainly be able to pass it on to someone else. The chances of an infected male passing it along to a female are much higher than the reverse.

I am hoping I read this wrong.

Erik
01-29-08, 16:09
Exactly. Me too, I can't believe what I have just read. No, Cepu19, HIV risk is fully part of the discussion about sex and prostitution, since if you contaminate our playground because of your selfishness there will be in the future less sex and prostitution here.
And also, 1 in 2000 is actually a very high risk fctor, given the large number of girls most of us on this forum "do" every year in Asia.

Cepu19
01-29-08, 18:09
The remark about "not getting HIV again" was made as a joke! Sorry if it missed the target!

I didn't really post the report to get a lecture from my learnered friends about their view on the safe sex agenda. I already know those arguments and would never post on a site like this to have them restated to me again.

If you are worried about getting HIV I strongly recommend that you use condoms at all times. HIV could theoretically transmit even during oral sex (although no proven cases have been found) but many other venereal diseases will transmit through oral sex. See regardless of what I do it will not affect your safety as long as you use condoms.

So here we like to moralise as to what others should or should not do. Dody67 do it to a point where, without any factual basis whatsoever, he suggests that an identifiable girl in a bar has HIV. It is done in some perverted attempt just to drive the safe sex message home. See now we all know she has HIV Ė Dody67 knew her HIV status but not her name (thank you to the member who pm'ed her name to me). She will surely be welcomed back at the Walkabout hotel.

If the Safe sex discussion is part of the discussion about sex and prostitution then why is there a separate part of the board for "safe sex" discussion? Anyone who feels like entering into a moral discussion about condom use are free to go there why do we have the same discussion here?

Some NGOs estimate that 120 out of 100 prostitutes in Cambodia are HIV positive (WARNING. This was a joke! ) while others suggest it to be as low as 2 out of 100. Whatever the true infection rate is the chances of catching HIV as a man from a HIV positive woman on average without any other factors (other infections, cuts, circumcision, high viral load due to recent infection etc) is as low as 0. 05%.

I am not condemning anyone who wishes to use a condom, I will encourage you to. If everybody used condoms then my risk would be even lower. However for lectures on sexual morals I sugest "right to life" or similar sites and the discussion here could be limited to punting venues, nice girls and good experiences. This will most likely be the last experience of mine I will be sharing with this forum. Thank you for your kind attention.

Hollow Man
01-29-08, 18:52
Sounds like an instigation topic but it doesn't matter if it's serious. You can't change people's choices. Over half the mongers have something permenant and infectious like HPV, HSV-1 or 2, Warts, HIV, HepB/C. Condoms, if they chose to use them, don't protect against the first 3. If you are in the hobby then know the risks you take before you take them. You don't know what 100 guys have used the chick (if it's really a chick _) before you. Assume the worst and fuck away.

Have carrageenan/microbicide lotions and condoms yourself and that's all we can hope to do.

If any of you are interested is stats. I have already discovered 2 girls that used to be in walkabout (but I haven't seen FL in the past year) with oral herpes. 2 girls with HIV in Martini (one no longer is a FL and the other I posted of earlier). 3 Deaf chicks (only one left in sharky who is not attractive) not an uncommon circumstance I discovered when visiting locals in the countryside. Aand here's the kicker, If you see an exceptionally tall chick in Martinis who is the quiet type. She a hermaphrodite born with both male and female parts. There are 2 tall chicks there. 1 is really cool and the other taller one is a he/she. I learned some guys get a kick out of trying something new.

Pierre Le Ski
01-29-08, 19:57
People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.

We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.

I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.

By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.Please keep me informed of all your exploits, I will find the information very useful.

You would do well to revisit you doctor and have him explain fully the implications of your health.

Gagoo
01-30-08, 01:17
Sounds like an instigation topic but it doesn't matter if it's serious. You can't change people's choices. Over half the mongers have something permenant and infectious like HPV, HSV-1 or 2, Warts, HIV, HepB/C. Condoms, if they chose to use them, don't protect against the first 3. If you are in the hobby then know the risks you take before you take them. You don't know what 100 guys have used the chick (if it's really a chick _) before you. Assume the worst and fuck away.

Have carrageenan/microbicide lotions and condoms yourself and that's all we can hope to do.

If any of you are interested is stats. I have already discovered 2 girls that used to be in walkabout (but I haven't seen FL in the past year) with oral herpes. 2 girls with HIV in Martini (one no longer is a FL and the other I posted of earlier). 3 Deaf chicks (only one left in sharky who is not attractive) not an uncommon circumstance I discovered when visiting locals in the countryside. Aand here's the kicker, If you see an exceptionally tall chick in Martinis who is the quiet type. She a hermaphrodite born with both male and female parts. There are 2 tall chicks there. 1 is really cool and the other taller one is a he/she. I learned some guys get a kick out of trying something new.


2 weeks ago I saw 2 deaf chicks in Sharkey's. I didn't know at first. I ask one of the female bartenders why they don't talk. The bartender said they must be dumb or crazy. I wonder why the bartender didn't know. Anyways, one of the Westener guys told me they were deaf.. then I felt stupid because I should have known.

Gagoo
01-30-08, 01:23
The remark about "not getting HIV again" was made as a joke! Sorry if it missed the target!



There are other diseases to worry about other than HIV.
Anyways, I have to appreciate you not keeping anything out of your report, it give more facts so others can know what's going on.

Enjoy your life as you wish. I'll be wearing condoms with these girls.
I have known a couple normal, non-working girls in Thailand lately that I have started out the sex without condoms, but only becuase I was 100% sure they weren't sex workers.

Pierre Le Ski
01-30-08, 01:33
The remark about "not getting HIV again" was made as a joke! Sorry if it missed the target!

I didn't really post the report to get a lecture from my learnered friends about their view on the safe sex agenda. I already know those arguments and would never post on a site like this to have them restated to me again.

If you are worried about getting HIV I strongly recommend that you use condoms at all times. HIV could theoretically transmit even during oral sex (although no proven cases have been found) but many other venereal diseases will transmit through oral sex. See regardless of what I do it will not affect your safety as long as you use condoms.

So here we like to moralise as to what others should or should not do. Dody67 do it to a point where, without any factual basis whatsoever, he suggests that an identifiable girl in a bar has HIV. It is done in some perverted attempt just to drive the safe sex message home. See now we all know she has HIV Ė Dody67 knew her HIV status but not her name (thank you to the member who pm'ed her name to me). She will surely be welcomed back at the Walkabout hotel.

If the Safe sex discussion is part of the discussion about sex and prostitution then why is there a separate part of the board for "safe sex" discussion? Anyone who feels like entering into a moral discussion about condom use are free to go there why do we have the same discussion here?

Some NGOs estimate that 120 out of 100 prostitutes in Cambodia are HIV positive (WARNING. This was a joke! ) while others suggest it to be as low as 2 out of 100. Whatever the true infection rate is the chances of catching HIV as a man from a HIV positive woman on average without any other factors (other infections, cuts, circumcision, high viral load due to recent infection etc) is as low as 0. 05%.

I am not condemning anyone who wishes to use a condom, I will encourage you to. If everybody used condoms then my risk would be even lower. However for lectures on sexual morals I sugest "right to life" or similar sites and the discussion here could be limited to punting venues, nice girls and good experiences. This will most likely be the last experience of mine I will be sharing with this forum. Thank you for your kind attention.In your original report you did "miss the target" for me,however this report sets things straight for me. Thank-you for you candidness and i appoligies for my Knee-jerk responce. In my experience, if something can be miss-interpreted, it will be. Be aware of that .

Hollow Man
01-30-08, 07:00
See regardless of what I do it will not affect your safety as long as you use condoms.Excellent quote. It sums up everything very nicely.

Add in a check for smells, leaks, dryness, cuts, and sores as further protection against the items that condoms don't prevent. I am one of the few mongers who are completely clean (no HSV-1/2 nothing, nada, completely clean), have never caught anything in 8 years of mongering, and plan to keep it that way.

How many of us have gotten a girl to find out she's on the rag then decide "Oh what the hell, I'm already paying for it. "? Or maybe she smells funny bad or has a weird discharge so we put her in the shower and wash her up and slap on a condom before going in? DFK? All personal choice.

The biggest secret which most people fail to do is. Here's the biggest and best secret. "Don't be hesitant to give her $5 for nothing and kick the ***** out. " THAT's RIGHT. If she smells funny or doesn't let you check down there then KICK THE ***** OUT. It costs me $25 co-pay to see my doc. Thats the equivalent of kicking 5 bitches to the curb. Way easier to kick them and get something better.

Keep safe, stay happy.

Phantomtiger2
01-31-08, 00:15
Some fellow mongerers told us we could get BJ samples in Sophies, we thought that would be something interesting to check-out. Well, it didn't happen for us. I don't know if it was only for us that they didn't do it, or if they where just careful for the time being.



No more round the room BJs, Sadly, this seems to be the current trend at Sophies as the open BJ samples of the past was also lacking the last time I visited--due to more crackdowns by the police/Ngo. They don't seem to blow you at the bar as much as you have a beer, but do it more in the back away from prying eyes.
Sophies is far different from my 1st visit years ago when open BJ samples from all the gals were the norm (and $1 tip for each).



PT

Roguesta
01-31-08, 01:05
To tell you the truth, Cepu19, I'm more concerned about the girls' safety. I can take care of myself.

Cepu19
01-31-08, 07:40
I am concerned about the girl too. I am happy to tell you that I am HIV negative so you do not need to worry about the girl in that department at all. I had my last test about 3 months ago so unless I have been unlucky very recently and further that she is extremely that our time together was her 1 in a 1000 chance of catching HIV from unprotected sex with a HIV positive male then she should be ok.

What I was more concerned about was to pay her the fee for the service as malnutrition combined with risks of typhoid and or malaria in her home village cause significantly higher mortality in Cambodia than HIV despite the NGO campaigns in this area.

I know, I promised not to bite and yet. I am a bad bad man.

Just one more thing I remembers, she had really bad dermatitis on one of her arse cheeks. It was very itchy and caused by eating too much beef she claimed. Just a bit of trivia.

Wendella
01-31-08, 09:40
This post may be in HCMC thread, but some may find it useful if coming to HCMC...
I have been to My Chau on Hai Ba Trung as I was recommended. I went there not for enhancers, but other medications I need.
Have you actaully bought V or C or generics there? If you have, how much did you pay?


Sorry I don't remember the prices exactly but I think it was about $13 for a box of Kamagra and $15 for Cialis. Much more expensive than in Phnom Penh, or Bangkok too I think.

Mauldid
01-31-08, 13:38
Just got back from PP a month ago. On the way to the many historic sights there, had my driver take me to a Sakura Massage. There were 3 girls in the lobby and had to pay $5 for the room. Picked a girl who was a 6 in my book. Tiny little thing but had a pretty smile. She took me to the 3rd floor where more girls were just hanging out watching tv. Made it in the room and lay on the bed and she gave me a half ass massage. Start working on my inner thighs and asked me if I wanted special. Asked how much, started at 40, I said no. First time there so didn't really know the price but brought her down to 25. She went out to grab a rubber, came back and showered. No yum yum so we did mission, cow girl and doggie. She was scared of little brother and asked me to pull out when I cum. She was a trooper because I was hurting her with my little brother .Shot me load, cleaned up and got in my ride. Overall, good experience. Check out Sakura if you have a chance.

Cepu19
01-31-08, 14:39
To tell you the truth, Cepu19, I'm more concerned about the girls' safety. I can take care of myself.I am concerned about the girl too. I am happy to tell you that I am HIV negative so you do not need to worry about the girl in that department at all. I had my last test about 3 months ago so unless I have been unlucky very recently and further that she is extremely unlucky that our time together was her 1 in a 1000 chance of catching HIV from unprotected sex with a HIV positive male then she should be ok.

What I was more concerned about was to pay her the fee for the service as malnutrition combined with risks of typhoid and or malaria in her home village cause significantly higher mortality in Cambodia than HIV despite the NGO campaigns in this area.

As serious as HIV is, as an occupational hazard I am sure that industries such as construction and transport would have higher fatalities than the prostitues from HIV, but that is just a gut feeling not facts to back it.

I know, I promised not to bite and yet. I am a bad bad man.

Just one more thing I remembers, she had really bad dermatitis on one of her arse cheeks. It was very itchy and caused by eating too much beef she claimed. Just a bit of trivia.

Dinghy
01-31-08, 19:04
$13? Only about 9X PP cost for Kamagra (big rip off)

Apsalis is about $5 or so

(in PP near central market)

Niknoy
02-01-08, 18:11
2 weeks ago I saw 2 deaf chicks in Sharkey's. I didn't know at first. I ask one of the female bartenders why they don't talk. The bartender said they must be dumb or crazy. I wonder why the bartender didn't know. Anyways, one of the Westener guys told me they were deaf.. then I felt stupid because I should have known.I always chat to one of these ladys in sharkys when I go there, if she spots me she gives me a low down about the lady's who scam monger's,

You know? Out of all 20 men I had last week I love only you, send me to much money into my bank account for me to stay at home whilst your in farangland.

I have to act out my speach, for her to understand me.

Franga
02-01-08, 18:41
I picked up some packs of Kamagra in Phnom Penh at a pharmacy on 182st directly opposite the Capitol Guesthouse. I have ďtestedĒ it and it is working. Cost was $3usd for a pack of 4 pills (100mg each). The packaging looks like it is the real stuff from India. Good value as Kamagra in Pattaya costs the equivalent of $12usd.

They also were selling Viagra for $8usd (1 pack of 4 pills of 100mg each), though I didnít buy any as I only use Kamagra. The packaging said that it was made in the USA but packaged in Australia. No Cialis was available there.

This pharmacy is on the north side of st182 and just to the west of st107. As you face across 182 st with the Capitol GH to your back, you will see the ABC Internet cafť. The pharmacy is 1 or 2 shops to the left (ie west) of the internet cafť.

Dinghy
02-01-08, 20:09
Go to street 136 between 53 and 51 (Pasteur). If you are leaving 53 toward 51, about 3 shops down from the corner on the right side there is a pharmacy with "boxes" of the K or Z displayed in the window (don't remember the name - but it's in here somewhere if you want to go look it up).

6 months ago the price was $2 for packs of 4 100mg K or Z Apcalis was $5 for pack of 2 20mg. there are several pharmacies - I've only dealt with this one.

street 136 is one of the streets surrounding the central market - it's the one at the bottom of the market in this map

http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/images/maps/central-market.jpg

Chaos Theory
02-04-08, 07:21
thought it was time i gave a bit back to the forum after a few years of mainly being a lurker. i live in london but my job mainly involves work in asia. i go on month long trips to se asia and china, heaven for someone like me who greatly favors asian women.

anyway, the following is a report on my activities since mid december 2007. it covers hong kong, malaysia and cambodia. future reports, if i get round to writing them, are likely to include vietnam, singapore, and indonesia as well.

i will post the whole report in each relevant section so please skip over any bits not relevant to the particular thread. for malaysia (kl) and cambodia (phnom penh) scroll down.

hong kong

i was in hk about a week before christmas. stayed at the novotel century on lockhart road, wanchai. very well placed relative to the wanchai bars, totally girl friendly and reasonably priced (not usually a major concern for me as my work is paying).

my favorite venue here is fenwicks. as someone noted recently mongering here is like shooting fish in a barrel. things donít really get started until 10pm so no point turning up earlier than that Ė go to one of the other bars or get a good mexican meal in coyotes. between 10pm and midnight a huge number of girls come in. a mix if filipina, thai, mainland chinese and a handful of russians and africans. bar closes at 3am i think.

on this trip i hooked up with a bunch of filipina girls who hung around the table near the dance floor. great bunch of girls, lots of fun and were not too pushy for drinks. i quickly focused a young, slim and, imho, very pretty one. turned out to be 19 years old and very new to the game. loved dancing and had a great time. asked her if she wanted to come back with me lt and she jumped at the chance. her friends were cheering her as they said it was her first hook up (she had arrived in hk two days before). back in the room it became clear that while she was no virgin i would say she wasnít experienced either. however had a lot of fun and she was also good to talk to too. in the morning i gave her hk$1000 and she looked delighted and off she went. this seems a bargain to me and evidence of her newness to the scene. i hooked up with her again every night for the rest of the trip, lt every night and just $1000.

returned to hk end of january. same hotel and wandered down to fenwicks at about 10pm on a thursday night. was quite quiet. kind of hoped the girl from before would be there but no luck. however spotted another filipina i thought was very attractive. good figure, pretty face. called her over, had a few drinks and a dance. she had arrived in hk two days before. however she didnít play the innocent but said back home she worked in bars called mascara and ivory. having made it clear that i would be taking her back to the hotel with me we then settled down to some partying. popped over to neptune 2 which she hadnít seen (very busy, good music and a lot of good quality girls), then to laguana (sp? ) (rubbish) and the back to fenwicks to see her friend. by now it was 1. 30am and much busier. i have to say i thought the quality of available talent was exceptional. what i would call 8ís and 9ís were available for anyone interested. my girlís friend was complaining there were too many girls and too much window shopping by the men Ė not enough genuine customers.

anyway took my girl back to the hotel and have to say, what ensued was the best p4p experience i have ever had. she was fantastic. great body, enthusiastic and very accommodating. i wanted to cim but got carried away and shot early while getting into position. fired all over her face. we laughed about it and she actually complained that she preferred me to cim as she didnít like having the ísticky stuffí on her face! never had someone complain about me not cimíing before! another session when we woke up and then took her for breakfast. overall excellent and gfe. paid her hk$2, 000 because i was just so pleased.

unfortunately i canít remember the names of either of the girls! i have an email address for the second but her name is not part of it.

malayisa

i was in kl for a few days in mid january. favourite hotel here is the concorde and, as iím sure you can guess, favourite bar is the beach club.

arrived late on sunday night. given a great suite in hotel with separate sitting room, bedroom, dressing room and two bathrooms! went straight to beach club (via garage to buy condoms, girls donít carry in malaysia so be prepared). quickly spotted the nights target, a hot bodied, reasonably pretty filipina called grace. was instantly attracted to her when she said to me "my names grace, and you should have grace before breakfast". couldnít agree more! she was a great dancer, as was her cute friend kyla. their easy to find. generally hang out near the platform where some of the girls "table top" dance. took her back st as i was tired and wanted some sleep. she put on a great performance though once clothes off did reveal some stretch marks but sexy none the less. rm300 for the st.

next night by the time i got to the beach club grace was busy and i hadnít made any plans to meet up with her so fair enough Ė she has a living to make. hooked up with another cute filipina (slightly fuller body but sweet face) called vanessa. took her lt (rm400). she got all shy back in the room. then all of a sudden she turned into a wild women, practically raped me, had a massive orgasm (or faked it well) and then went all shy again! a bit bizarre. continued shy act until left in morning. wouldnít take her again but the 20 mins of Ďactioní were pretty fantastic.

final night was grace again. met up early. left beach and checked out rum jungle for a bit. good bar but not many, if any, flís just some hot local girls having a good time. back to room, fell asleep but had a good session in the morning. (rm400)

as an aside i would expect grace and her friend kyla to make a great double act. will be my objective if they are still there next time i am in kl. overall quality of girls at beach 6.7 but with some gems if you look. also you have probably guessed by now that i am a filipina fan.

cambodia

i was in phnom penh in mid jan. stayed at himawari. good price (us$90) and very gf. the security guards stop girls when they leave and call you in your room to make sure you are ok to let them leave. problem with himawari is that you need to book early as it gets very full.

unlike previous trips i didnít make it to cyrecee this time. however based on my previous experience i would recommend it if you get the chance.

i spent my time this visit in bar 104. can be hit and miss here but i just got lucky on my first night and tied up with a group of girls who were very chatty and good fun. they had a friend who was very pretty, good body but spoke no english, mom i think her name was. while the chatty girls didnít seem available (though i didnít try very hard) mom was very willing. i had two nights of great gfe with her, despite the lack of english. sure i will be flamed but gave her us$40 per night in recognition of great performance.

one night i took the girls down to bar 136 which is 104ís sister joint. they were very excited by having a trip out and i think we all had a good time.

thatís it for now

ct

Chaos Theory
02-04-08, 07:25
Can anyone confirm whether either of these hotels is girl friendly.

Thanks

Chaos Theory
02-04-08, 09:36
Before I get flamed I have done a search of the thread and both hotels seem to be GF.

Thanks,

CT

Cepu19
02-04-08, 11:19
I think both are GF. Never had any problems with Cambodiana. Never heard about problems at Sunway but don't know first hand.

Hummer Bird
02-04-08, 14:54
Can anyone confirm whether either of these hotels is girl friendly.

ThanksConsidering the prices your paying these girls I should tell you nothing. That is totally ridiculous money. You must be loaded if you think $90.00 is a good price in Cambodia!!!! For that kind of money why don't you just pay the doorman and front desk people off and order out? Try Japan, or Rio, those are now ruined for normal pricing.

Getting to the point, Cambodiana has its own girls (and they are perfect for you $100.00 bucks a pop) and because of its own fishbowl they do not allow girls to come in. Try the basement.

Bring it down a notch, (I guess I am projecting)

Cheers,

Hummer

Punk Boulala
02-04-08, 18:51
Chaos Theory paid too much in Malaysia too. RM 300 is way too much for short time from Beach Club. He seems to be on a one man mission to ruin S.E. Asia.

Cepu19
02-04-08, 21:30
Considering the prices your paying these girls I should tell you nothing. That is totally ridiculous money. You must be loaded if you think $90.00 is a good price in Cambodia!!!! For that kind of money why don't you just pay the doorman and front desk people off and order out? Try Japan, or Rio, those are now ruined for normal pricing.

Getting to the point, Cambodiana has its own girls (and they are perfect for you $100.00 bucks a pop) and because of its own fishbowl they do not allow girls to come in. Try the basement.

Bring it down a notch, (I guess I am projecting)

Cheers,

HummerIf you are on expenseses or can afford it why stay at the WA for $15 per night if you can stay at a comfortable hotel? Why drive a Morris Minor if you can have a Rolls Royce? Is it part of dogma her that we have to rought it?

I didn't have any problems at Cambodiana so manby I was just lucky.

Cepu19
02-04-08, 21:35
Sorry never noticed the $40 per night line. That is a bit excessive but not miles away from what actually gets paid when the forum is cleaned out for bullshit. Most WA and Martini girls are trying pretty hard for $30 LT. The bar girls will try for a bit more. Should try not to pay that much, but what the H. If you have paid $1500 to get here, $90 per night for a hotel at the end of the day will you let $10 for a night spoil your fun?

Chaos Theory
02-05-08, 02:22
Thanks for the info on the Cambodiana. Have booked Sunway.

As for prices I wouldn't normally respond but , not sure where $90 came from, not even I would pay that in Cambodia!

CT

Fast Eddie 48
02-06-08, 00:32
Thanks for the info on the Cambodiana. Have booked Sunway.

As for prices I wouldn't normally respond but , not sure where $90 came from, not even I would pay that in Cambodia!

CTChaos,

I am not sure when is the last time you been to PP hotel price has double in about 8 yr , I stay at Cambodiana on my first trip to PP back in 2000 pay 48 usd for a standard room ,I think you can still get a decent room for about 20 usd place like flamingo or asia hotel but no swimming pool ,price has double for most thing in cambodia the last 10 yr good thing is they use US dollar so currency is not dropping like in most asia country for us americans.

Fast eddie 48

Redfield10
02-07-08, 04:06
Question: Am I allowed to bring in Cialis or Apcialis from Bangkok to Cambodia? Also, how about the reverse? Can I take it from Cambodia to BKK? Or must I buy it in the respective countries and only use it there?

Thanks, guys.

Ekspat
02-07-08, 07:09
Am I allowed to bring in Cialis or Apcialis from Bangkok to Cambodia? Also, how about the reverse?
I assume if you have a "normal" amount with you, lets say 10 or 20 pills, then it should be fine.
In case you have 10,000 pills it's probably a different story :D

Cheers!

Wendella
02-08-08, 08:59
My last time in PP a couple of weeks ago, I walked down St 63 at about 11.30pm, curious to take a look. Each shop just waved me away though, saying No.

I headed to Martini next. About an hour later I was returning to my hotel on a motorbike taxi, along with a girl I'd met, riding up St 63, and now all the guys in front of the same shops were trying to wave me down to come in as we rode past.

What gives? Is it still possible to just walk up to those places and be served?

Anyone else go to any of these places recently? What's a good time of day to go?

One more question.... at Martini, I actually went there first at about 10pm, and there were plenty of girls there by that time. I hung out awhile and didn't notice many more coming in. Then I went back to check out St 63 (see above), but then returned to Martini -- it was still all the same girls. I think Martini closes at 3am... is there much of an influx later on in the night at any point, or is it pretty much what you see at 10pm is what you see all night?

Cam Bodia
02-08-08, 16:02
We stayed at the sunway in December and had no problems taking girls back which we did most nights we were paying the girls on average 30 dollars but that was for both my wife and I.

In December sophies was buisness as usual so am suprised at some reports saying it is closed unless this has happened in the last couple of weeks.

We also found quite a few freelancers at heart of darkness but it doesnt start getting busy until 12pm.

Mikado martinis etc all buisness as usual.

We also saw girls working down at boung kack lake [probably wrong spelling ] but its directly behind the phnom penh hotel now this is a back packer area but there are some great bars right on the lake where you can sit and relax during the day and quite a few girls playing pool and obviously looking for daytime customers and we didn't see many back packers down there unless they were all out buying lentils or kramas.

We also went to a couple of Cambodian beer/karioki bars aparently the girls on stage singing are all available but I don't think europeans would stand much chance the place we saw the most beautiful girls all easily 10 or over was svensons ice cream parlour we didn't proposition any of them but if anybody has and succeeded please post a report.

And finally is it just us or is Thailand trying to put of as many tourists as possible starting at immigration where it now takes an hour to get through which is just what you need after a 12 hour flight.

The sooner international flights are going straight to phnom penh the better.

Niknoy
02-08-08, 21:37
My last time in PP a couple of weeks ago, I walked down St 63 at about 11.30pm, curious to take a look. Each shop just waved me away though, saying No.

I headed to Martini next. About an hour later I was returning to my hotel on a motorbike taxi, along with a girl I'd met, riding up St 63, and now all the guys in front of the same shops were trying to wave me down to come in as we rode past.

What gives? Is it still possible to just walk up to those places and be served?You don't want to go to Street 63, the girl you choose will insist you put your pants [trousers] on the door hook behind you, were the pimps will put there arm over the door and take your wallet [purse] out of the pockets and put your pants back on the hook, there very skilled at this.

Cepu19
02-08-08, 23:54
And finally is it just us or is Thailand trying to put of as many tourists as possible starting at immigration where it now takes an hour to get through which is just what you need after a 12 hour flight.

The sooner international flights are going straight to phnom penh the better.I have noticed that too, in the new airport it seems to take significantly longer to get through than it did in the old one. On one occation easily one hour! A pain in the arse if you are connecting on a point-to-point airline. My advise is to allow AT LEAST THREE HOURS before connecting if you have to re-check your luggage.

Roguesta
02-09-08, 00:47
I don't know where you're from, Cam Bodia, but you can fly from LAX to Taipei, and then on to Phnom Penh using China Airlines. They only fly from Taipei to Phnom Penh twice a week, however.

Cepu19
02-09-08, 02:23
There are plenty of alternatives to BKK when flying to PP. Airasia and Malasia Air fly KL to PP, JetStar and Silk Air from Singapore to PP, Dragon Air from HK, Eva Air and China Airways from Taipai, Korean Airlines from Seoul.

If you are really pissed off the the transit arrangements then Thai Airways will fly your straight through without any need to clear customs in Bangkok. Thai Airways have good connections to Europe, US and Australia. I am sure that is the case with Malasia Airlines and Korean Air as well. The discount airlines was different.

However, Singapore is relatively fast to get through in my opinion.

Wendella
02-09-08, 13:15
You don't want to go to Street 63, the girl you choose will insist you put your pants [trousers] on the door hook behind you, were the pimps will put there arm over the door and take your wallet [purse] out of the pockets and put your pants back on the hook, there very skilled at this.

I'm totally aware of the situation there, don't worry. One time victim myself of that scam (didn't lose anything, caught the guy in the act). I just wanted to check it out. If your trousers are empty, I don't think they'll keep the trousers. ;-)

Nobody has been there lately?

Cam Bodia
02-09-08, 23:28
We fly from the UK so we only have one choice and thats to fly into BK then onto PP but thanks for the reply

PinkPearl
02-10-08, 10:05
You don't want to go to Street 63, the girl you choose will insist you put your pants [trousers] on the door hook behind you, were the pimps will put there arm over the door and take your wallet [purse] out of the pockets and put your pants back on the hook, there very skilled at this.Next time fill the wallet with 100 Riel notes, photocopied US $100 bills, and monopoly money. Keep the real dough duck taped under your arm pits and in your ass crack.

Bayareapundit
02-10-08, 22:46
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.

Niknoy
02-11-08, 16:35
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.Most of the rich indians who visit thailand or Cambodia don`t drink beer, so they go into a Thai bar and of course get chucked out when they dont buy a beer, they also seem to think they can look and touch the girls for free,

Other indians in Thailand or cambodia are indians who are immagrants and have no money.

Cepu19
02-11-08, 23:58
If you have cash you will be welcomed in most places.

Ibeme
02-12-08, 02:30
Where on 63rd St. Are the "shops" located? I usually stay at Flamingo's. Is it close to the big market or further down the opposite way? I would never consider walking there and would take a moto anyway. I just never have heard where on 63rd they are located.

Bayareapundit
02-12-08, 03:49
Most of the rich indians who visit thailand or Cambodia don`t drink beer, so they go into a Thai bar and of course get chucked out when they dont buy a beer, they also seem to think they can look and touch the girls for free,

Other indians in Thailand or cambodia are indians who are immagrants and have no money.Thanks for responding pal, if you could just help me a little more. So, are you saying it's a complete no as it is in Thailand or is it a little better than Thailand? I am looking to spend money while looking for my money's worth in return, simple. In Thailand they would turn me down even before I get to spend any money. That's the reason I ask. Because that kind of situation is beyond repair. Can I expect the same in Cambodia or little better than that? Help a monger!

Xdentx
02-12-08, 06:34
I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.I was recently in Kuala Lumpur for four nights. The cab drivers are of Indian heritage, but born in Malaysia. They were all in an uproar when I was there because one of their people in the government had been shot. Long story short. They feel very discriminated against in their own homeland and are quite angry. One taxi driver told me quite seriously that Queen Elizabeth (of England) and the prime minister of Australia were going to come to Malaysia together and sort things out. I suspect you may have difficulties getting the service you desire in that country. Would definitely investigate a little further before you commit to a trip there.

Hollow Man
02-12-08, 07:36
As an indian in Phnom Penh you'll get some rejection. Africans and Indians have built a reputation for themselves (unfortunately) amongst the girls and bars but there are plenty of FL girls that will go with you. You're from Cali so if you speak with a perfect american accent then that will clear up alot for you. FL girls are desperate for customers so that should help, brothel girls have to go with you because there is no choice in the matter, as are massage girls.

So yes, you will be discriminated against somewhat $ and an american accent goes a loong way. Also hook up with an expat or a regular while you're there. If they introduce you to the girl then there should be no problem as well.

Ekspat
02-12-08, 08:09
I suspect you may have difficulties getting the service you desire in that country.
He'll get service but by Indian ladies then. Should be fine but don't expect lookers.
Otherwise maybe by a desperate Malay girl, but no chance to get a local chinese girl.

But also Viets, Thais and Indons hanging out here.
It'll work somehow.

Good luck!

Forever69
02-12-08, 10:14
I have read b-pundits report on Pattaya and can only warn somebody with an unchecked temper who thinks he can buy everything by throwing around money from visiting Cambodia. If you pull a stunt like he did in Pattaya you might really end up dead in the gutter. I would recommend a visit in india, with a guru perhaps, to work on some anger management issues.

The right personality and attitude a little humor and being self assured and not a foot stomping little kid will get you from a to be just about anywhere.

PinkPearl
02-12-08, 12:03
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.Some of the tips already mentioned would probably have worked for you in Bangkok, such as checking out freelancers on the street, and being with a more accepted farang. Apparently Arabs and Indians are classified together, but many Thai & Russian ladies work the Grace Hotel in BKK, which is a hotel that caters especially to Arabs. So although it may be hard to find a real hot lady there, that would have been another doable option for you.

Good luck with your trip.

Redfield10
02-12-08, 12:52
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.I am not stereotyping, but here's a fact. I met up with a guy a few months ago at a bar in BKK. He happenned to be of Indian ethnic origin and lives and works in the USA. I could care less if the guy is purple and has two heads. However.

The guy acted like a total asshole towards the w omen in the bar. And word got around right away and of course, the "stereotype" was alive. So at least in the one instance where I was having a beer with a guy who happenned ot be Indian origin even though I think he was a US citizen, he acted like a jerk and well, there you have it. We all have to police our brothers or fairly or unfairly we are sometimes judged by artificial means because we happen to belong to a certain ethnic group.

Mai Yao
02-12-08, 18:10
Where on 63rd St. Are the "shops" located? I usually stay at Flamingo's. Is it close to the big market or further down the opposite way? I would never consider walking there and would take a moto anyway. I just never have heard where on 63rd they are located.Turn left out of Flamingos, left onto #51, right at Walkabout, go one block and left onto #63; stroll on down the left side: the touts will let you know.

Not an unsafe walk in daylight. A moto dropping you off will raise the tab considerably.

Take only the money you need and no other valuables. Put your pants under the pillow, not on the rack.

Cam Bodia
02-12-08, 22:43
Bayareapundit

Really do youself a favour and stay away from Cambodia, I second what islandboy54 has already told you an agressive attitude in Cambodia could have very serious concequences.

In fact I am very suprised that in Thailand the police didn't charge you for tearing up their currency as that is an insult to their king, a swedish guy burnt a note a while ago and was sentenced to 3 months in prison.

If you want to come back to asia why not try india obviously no prejudice problems there and you will find plenty indian sluts there just like the russian and thai sluts you said you found in Bangkok only cheaper.

Having read your Pattaya report and as you say money was not an issue I can't understand why you stayed, just buy a airline ticket and move on somewhere where you feel welcome.

Crypton
02-12-08, 23:34
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.

I have never been to Cambodia but been to Thailand (Bangkok) many many times. I am the same ethnicity as you and also live in th US. I do not understand why you could not get laid in Thailand. When I go to Bangkok, I regularly do 2 girls a day (freelancers - I don't go to go-go bars because some of them discriminate). I have no problem picking up girls. Sure, some of them give me the cold shoulder - but there are SO MANY girls that I really don't give a shit. Once they start talking to me, they realize I am nice guy. More importantly, all working girls have a network and word spreads fast - good or bad. I have had girls tell their friends that I am nice guy, pay fairly, and clean. The friends then want to go out with me! This same thing happened to me in Dubai as well (where the racism is a million times worse than in Thailand). This PRC girl I took told her friend and that girl wanted to go with me (she was pretty good). In Dubai, CIS and PRC girls tend to stick to white customers mostly. In all cases,once they know you are from "America" (= $$$$$) they don't care about your skin color.

I am not going to judge you since I do not know you. But after reading the your report from Pattaya, I get the feeling you take things too seriously. Just relax and enjoy. You are there to have fun. What better revenge on people who discriminate than having fun IN SPITE of them? Also, the disparaging way your refer to the working girls speaks volumes about your attitude toward them and could be a major reason you had trouble getting your dick wet. This is typically Indian attitude: most Indians treat "help" as trash - whether be it domestic help, waiters, or working girls. I cringe every time I see that shit whether it is in India, the US or other countries.

I agree with whoever said not to be too aggressive in foreign countries. I had a close call in Brazil and learned my lesson. Better to walk away than be dead. And your (my) embassy won't lift a finger or give a shit.''

Why the fuck would you pay 10,000 baht to a CIS girl in BKK??? The going rate is 5000 baht at the most - from CM2.

By the way, the Indonesian girls in Jakarta loved me - because I looked so "exotic." But Indonesia is full of rip-off artists.

Cheers

First Lover
02-13-08, 00:12
There are in fact international flights going to PP.

If you have to change flight anyway, why not do that in Hong Kong and then go directly to PP.

Bayareapundit
02-13-08, 05:05
Thanks a lot for your responses. Words of wisdom taken and Cambodia is out of equation. I already had Cambodia out of my plans but I took fancy to occasional mention of Viet imports and was thinking - maybe ... somehow. But, oh well ... I will satisfy my Viet fetish in California itself. California is not bad at all, abundant supply of imports from China, Taiwan & Korea and occasional availability from Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia.

Secondly, why don't you question my Pattaya post in Pattaya forum?

Let me try to elaborate some more about that posting. That posting is not the entire experience I had; that posting has to do with the conclusion of my visit and is a statement of facts that might help some people (read Indian) make their mind. I doubt if such a categorical assessment of Thailand is available elsewhere from Indian perspective. I wish I had read such a statement before I made my trip.

Crypton - I did manage to get laid whenever I wanted. I had a girl every night, some of them for 2 nights which I found was the maximum I could stay with a particular one. I was an asshole only for 2 days and that was by design, all the other time I was a genuine monger on the hunt, taking chances - some successful and some not. I don't think I offended a single girl. I did not. I don't think I can ever offend a girl. In the worst case I would ask her to leave while cutting her payment short, which incidentally I happened to do on the very first night (what an initiation to (Thailand). At the end I had a huge list of telephone numbers which I had to dispose off at the airport.

Cam Bodia - I can't monger in India even though as you say it will take care of a lot of modalities because when I go to India I want to spend all my time with family. I could not be boozing and mongering full time which is what I want to do occasionally, to just set the spirit free. Secondly, money is not an issue but visa is. I have to plan my visit in advance, there are very few places I can just point my nose and go to. Thailand and Cambodia ruled out now. Man life is tough!

Redfield - My modus operandi is to first offer a drink to the lady when I want to talk. Usually another one also joins in. If I see some interest I hang around and keep compensating them for their time by buying them drinks or else I move on. I acknowledge there's definitely some part of Indian persona which makes them act in a certain way. It's not easy to get them to spend. When they spend they want to see concrete return upfront. I have had to adjust myself and I think I have been able to do it. But the Thai machinery is so setup that they would make it impossible for me to move to the next step. No problems here, I don't give a fuck what Thais want and don't want, I only wish I had known in no uncertain terms about it. I hope my report helps some people and makes them aware of the ground reality.

PinkPearl & Islandboy54 & Ekspat & Hollow Man & Xdentx - Thanks for sharing the pearls of wisdom!

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Member #3443
02-13-08, 10:39
Go to Cambodia. My friend is from India (born, raised, and lived his whole life) and had no problems out on his own without me when we were there together. He dressed in slacks and dress shirts or polo shirts like I usually do. Cambodians and Thais have a diferent culture from each other and are still antagonistic towards each other. I arrive 16 March in PP, meet me there for the week and I will make sure you have a good time. Hell, drunk Koreans in PP have the worst reputation.
Cheers, T.

Bayareapundit
02-14-08, 05:35
Go to Cambodia. My friend is from India (born, raised, and lived his whole life) and had no problems out on his own without me when we were there together. He dressed in slacks and dress shirts or polo shirts like I usually do. Cambodians and Thais have a diferent culture from each other and are still antagonistic towards each other. I arrive 16 March in PP, meet me there for the week and I will make sure you have a good time. Hell, drunk Koreans in PP have the worst reputation.

Cheers, T.Hey Taloha,

Thanks for encouragement. You know, my first question has basically gone unanswered, which will be the biggest factor in deciding whether is a go or no go. Am I going to be stopped right at the gate or not like in Thailand? Because in that case I am not going to care.

Secondly, what kind of action is there in Cambodia, do they have beer bars or only brothels and massage parlors?

Member #3443
02-14-08, 16:01
Hey Taloha,

Thanks for encouragement. You know, my first question has basically gone unanswered, which will be the biggest factor in deciding whether is a go or no go. Am I going to be stopped right at the gate or not like in Thailand? Because in that case I am not going to care.

Secondly, what kind of action is there in Cambodia, do they have beer bars or only brothels and massage parlors?

No you won't be stopped right at the gate. Cambodia has beer bars, brothels, and massage parlors. My friend hit the beer bars and massage parlors.

Ibeme
02-14-08, 16:36
Two more questions concerning 63 st.

What time of the day do they open? I've read the stories anout these places and would feel safer during the day.

Second, roughly how far down 63 st. Are they from the street that Walkabout is on? 100's of meters, half a mile?

I'll be in PP sometime in March and would like to give them a try.

Cam Bodia
02-16-08, 22:28
Is any mongers in PP right now , could you let us know if Sophies is still open, the wife loves going in to get her pussy licked. We will be in PP 2nd week in March.

Puchaidi
02-17-08, 06:48
Yes Sophie Club still open. I've been yesterday. They have one new girl coming from Battambang with excellent skills. If she can lick pussy like she sucks dick. I think you will enjoy.

Minimus
02-17-08, 08:06
Walkabout Girl
Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height letís say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers

If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.

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This sure sounds like a girl named Navi, A khmer girl whose barang husband recently left her, so she is back on the scene at Walkabout. Exaggerated orgasm noises, money grabbing, meatier than usual body, 5 diamonds in the teeth and all. I am not a fan, but you have the name. Plus she is usually there almost everyday alone, so you should have no trouble finding her.

Niknoy
02-17-08, 15:16
Thanks for responding pal, if you could just help me a little more. So, are you saying it's a complete no as it is in Thailand or is it a little better than Thailand? I am looking to spend money while looking for my money's worth in return, simple. In Thailand they would turn me down even before I get to spend any money. That's the reason I ask. Because that kind of situation is beyond repair. Can I expect the same in Cambodia or little better than that? Help a monger!Just buy a beer when you go into a bar, they just want to see that you will not take them for a ride,[or take one for a ride if you like her LOL] and cambodia`s the same, good luck.

Channy
02-17-08, 15:55
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.

I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.

I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.Why you just want to try gogo bar or bar beer in Thailand? This kind of place are farang oriented. I can tell you one thing: in the thai local scene, thai street hookers will never rejected you excepted if you re too" cheap charlie".

In Cambodia? I don't know about bar girls but in local brothels and with street hookers waiting on sisovath quay, you will have no problem. Be careful with your wallet if you take street hookers in Cambodia

Personaly Malaysia is good sex place a little bit more expansive than Thailand (due of high cost of rooms), the main problem is the action time no more than 20 minutes when you get 1 hours or more in Thailand. But Malaysia have thai, malay, Chinese (really appreciate by indians for what I saw), viet. But in Malaysia don t expected too much fromp bar scene it s really really expansive. Better to to go in spa, or local brothel or street hookers.

AncntFornicatr
02-17-08, 15:56
Is any mongers in PP right now , could you let us know if Sophies is still open, the wife loves going in to get her pussy licked. We will be in PP 2nd week in March.

Sophies was definitely in business as of Friday nite. They may be a bit more conservative than in the past but it still cost me $4 for the 4 samples and $12 for the BBBJ and a beer.

Pokey Penguin
02-17-08, 16:26
Sorry this is about an incident that happened about 6 months ago. I'm just getting around to posting it now.

I picked up a tall girl from Martini's who looked Vietnamese but was Cambodian. We went to the nearby short time guesthouse, I think called "shining star". When I got in bed with her, she would not let me kiss her face, and would not let me kiss her breasts. Not in the mood for this kind of bs, I quickly decided to cut my losses. I started getting dressed and gave her $5 compensation for the 10 minutes she spent with me. She became enraged and demanded I give her the entire $15 we had agreed on, even though no sex took place.

I told her that $5 was enough under the circumstances (I had also wasted another $5 for the hotel room), and she gets on her phone and starts talking to someone. We both walk downstairs and out of the guesthouse, arguing all the way, but the guesthouse had locked the front gate so I could not get out. A moto driver was there, apparently the guy she had called on her phone, and he menacingly demanded I give her $15. I refused. I told the guesthouse manager to call the police. The girl offered me her phone and said I could call the police if I wanted. That was pretty naive of me, of course, as the police would probably just try to extort even more money from me.

I negotiated with the moto driver and finally he agreed that I could leave if I gave the girl $7.50. So I did. She walked back to Martini's, screaming "You don't want to fuck me? Fuck your mother!"

Sometimes I think that one should ask the girl in advance, "do you kiss? Can I kiss you down there?" and other such questions before agreeing to go. But I hate to do that because it's not very romantic. Anyway, it's so rare that I see a girl I really find attractive in Cambodia that, when I do, I figure I'll just toss the dice and see how it goes. But sometimes it goes like this encounter, not very well.

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Hummer Bird
02-17-08, 19:01
Warriors come out and play eee a.

Can any supreme mongers comment as to whether or not Thailand and Cambodia outweigh the Colombian scene overall for mongering. This should include the ease, cost and beauties. I have experienced Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam, and can say forget V for mongering unless your Trump. What about the beach beauty in Colombia, any comparisons to Thai or Cam?

Thanks,

Hummer

Niknoy
02-18-08, 12:16
[QUOTE=Gumbyy]Sorry this is about an incident that happened about 6 months ago. I'm just getting around to posting it now.

I picked up a tall girl from Martini's who looked Vietnamese but was Cambodian. We went to the nearby short time guesthouse, I think called "shining star". When I got in bed with her, she would not let me kiss her face, and would not let me kiss her breasts. Not in the mood for this kind of bs, I quickly decided to cut my losses. I started getting dressed and gave her $5 compensation for the 10 minutes she spent with me. She became enraged and demanded I give her the entire $15 we had agreed on, even though no sex took place.

I told her that $5 was enough under the circumstances (I had also wasted another $5 for the hotel room), and she gets on her phone and starts talking to someone. We both walk downstairs and out of the guesthouse, arguing all the way, but the guesthouse had locked the front gate so I could not get out. A moto driver was there, apparently the guy she had called on her phone, and he menacingly demanded I give her $15. I refused. I told the guesthouse manager to call the police. The girl offered me her phone and said I could call the police if I wanted. That was pretty naive of me, of course, as the police would probably just try to extort even more money from me.

I negotiated with the moto driver and finally he agreed that I could leave if I gave the girl $7. 50. So I did. She walked back to Martini's, screaming "You don't want to fuck me? Fuck your mother! "

Sometimes I think that one should ask the girl in advance, "do you kiss? Can I kiss you down there? " and other such questions before agreeing to go. But I hate to do that because it's not very romantic. Anyway, it's so rare that I see a girl I really find attractive in Cambodia that, when I do, I figure I'll just toss the dice and see how it goes. But sometimes it goes like this encounter, not very well.

I have had problems with Cambodian woman similar to this, which is why I only go with viatnamese woman in Cams.

The Cambodian woman seem to only f**k like a robot and thats all you get. Cambodian woman are good for marriage, if any mongers are interested, I really mean this.

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Saint Jack
02-18-08, 16:58
Last Saturday night I went for dinner at Sharkey hoping that if some decent girl is found there I can accomplish 2 goals in one go; get my stomach filled and get a girl back.

The food was extremely slow but in very large portion, while waiting for my food to come, some glass breaking noise strikes. Seems like some customer had dispute and thrown the glass/bottle on the floor. People holding the 2 in disputes and finally peace came back to the scene.

Could not find anyone to my appetite, the most appealing girl there was the waitress who served me; so just asked for her name and gave her all the change and said goodbye to the place; bound for Cyrcee to fulfill my next objective of the night.

As soon as entering the club, I was surrounded by 3 girls at once. All hugging me and put my arms around their neck, legs or wherever they like. Kissing me all over and all telling that they would serve me well. Yum yum, fucking are offered right away and some jokingly said they need money to pay for phone bill. I told them that I need sometime to sip my drink and think about who to take. All girls at this club were Khmers with no Viet girls on site.

One of the girl wanted to know the result sooner so she asked me to choose who to go up with. I said I'm in no hurry and need my time so after awhile she left and the 2 other girls still surround me and either hug or massage me. So, I enquired about the rate and was told 15+4=19 USD. I told them that the rate I know of is 2 USD for the room but they said it was hiked sometime ago.

They urged me to go up soon as the better room with bathroom inside is still available. I felt it was about time so chose one with large exploding breast and large eyes. The other small and cute face girl was not bad either but I can take only one girl. Needless to say she was disappointed and did not hide her feeling as well as murmer something in her mouth.

The room is small in size but enough to serve the purpose, better and cleaner than Sophie's. The girl - Sunny? was quick in getting naked and helped me out as well. Showering together and she cleaned my body then hers before the action. Very accommodating girl and OK for any request made. Not too bad performance and soon we finished it downstair to get the bill. 15 USD directly to the girl and drink + room charge to the bar.

Can recommend to those who want the action outside of the hotel but girls can be taken back to your own place as well.

Saint Jack
02-18-08, 17:58
My stay last week was at Flamingo Hotel as usual and I went out to Martini around 10:20 taking tuktuk in front of the hotel. Being asked for 4 USD and negotiated it down to 10,000 Riels (probably could be down to 8,000 Riels)

Went inside to get my beer and found a place to sit down for monitoring. Girls passing by and some tried to make eye contact but I acted as if not seeing that if she does not catch my eyes. Found a long hair Viet dressed in black to my taste but wanted to see the whole available stock before making decision so I just continue with sipping the beer and people watching. It remind me of safari looking out for wildlife, but here we are to look for the night creature to spend the night with...

After awhile I was approached by a mamasan, offering me a girl who is guaranteed to provide very good service. Not bad looking at all and in afact quite match my taste. I hit my head how could I not seeing her until introduced by mamasan, but she was sitting a bit behind me in blind spot so can't help.

The girl is called Li and I asked for the price soon after talking to her. Was quoted ST 25 USD, LT 40 USD and of course I said No. Having to pay a cut of 5 USD to mamasan we settled at 30 USD LT and so we go to my hotel.

Li took quite sometime showering herself and when it comes to the action she is quite good in sucking. Ride on her and turn her backwards and so on; I did enjoy myself well until finishing it.

Soon after the shower she came back and told me that she did not feel well in the stomach due to my pumping. She said my little brother was big and she only had one barang customer before who was small and so are other Asian customers. I said sorry, I can't comment on my size because I never really see other men's member erected in full size and I did not mean to harm her. So, she said she'd like to go back and maybe see doctor and I said OK.

Paid her 20 USD for ST rate plus 5 USD tip/taxi, but she asked if I can give her 5 USD more for doctor as she may not be able to work the next day. I chipped in 10,000 R more and said goodbye to her. Quite satisfied with my pick of the night but it ended sooner than expected. Enough to give me a good sleep 'til morning fully refreshed the next day. In retrospect I may not be as fresh should I have her for the whole night and go for another session as it may drain my energy further to some extent...

Fast Eddie 48
02-19-08, 06:28
My stay last week was at Flamingo Hotel as usual and I went out to Martini around 10:20 taking tuktuk in front of the hotel. Being asked for 4 USD and negotiated it down to 10,000 Riels (probably could be down to 8,000 Riels)

Went inside to get my beer and found a place to sit down for monitoring. Girls passing by and some tried to make eye contact but I acted as if not seeing that if she does not catch my eyes. Found a long hair Viet dressed in black to my taste but wanted to see the whole available stock before making decision so I just continue with sipping the beer and people watching. It remind me of safari looking out for wildlife, but here we are to look for the night creature to spend the night with...

After awhile I was approached by a mamasan, offering me a girl who is guaranteed to provide very good service. Not bad looking at all and in afact quite match my taste. I hit my head how could I not seeing her until introduced by mamasan, but she was sitting a bit behind me in blind spot so can't help.

The girl is called Li and I asked for the price soon after talking to her. Was quoted ST 25 USD, LT 40 USD and of course I said No. Having to pay a cut of 5 USD to mamasan we settled at 30 USD LT and so we go to my hotel.

Li took quite sometime showering herself and when it comes to the action she is quite good in sucking. Ride on her and turn her backwards and so on; I did enjoy myself well until finishing it.

Soon after the shower she came back and told me that she did not feel well in the stomach due to my pumping. She said my little brother was big and she only had one barang customer before who was small and so are other Asian customers. I said sorry, I can't comment on my size because I never really see other men's member erected in full size and I did not mean to harm her. So, she said she'd like to go back and maybe see doctor and I said OK.

Paid her 20 USD for ST rate plus 5 USD tip/taxi, but she asked if I can give her 5 USD more for doctor as she may not be able to work the next day. I chipped in 10,000 R more and said goodbye to her. Quite satisfied with my pick of the night but it ended sooner than expected. Enough to give me a good sleep 'til morning fully refreshed the next day. In retrospect I may not be as fresh should I have her for the whole night and go for another session as it may drain my energy further to some extent...Saint jack,

You are being a nice guy but nice guy is the one that over paid and kill the market , I paid 20 baht for moto bike from central market to martini and I never paid the mommie the girl don't work for them they are freelance ad the girl will tell you anything just to go early so she can go back the bar for another customer I would just give her 15 usd and say good bye .

Wendella
02-20-08, 06:38
What time of the day do they open? I've read the stories anout these places and would feel safer during the day.

Second, roughly how far down 63 st. Are they from the street that Walkabout is on? 100's of meters, half a mile?


Not sure about the first question but if you walk down the Walkabout street, 63rd Street is the first intersection you reach, and the shops are on that first block when you turn left. Not sure exactly how many meters but maybe it's 3? 4? 5?

I posted awhile back about my own experience there and am pretty surprised I got no reply at all from anyone here. I walked past those shops at about 11.30 one night a few weeks back and was basically refused. The guys just kept saying No. About one hour later I happened to be driving by on the back of a motorbike taxi, and THEN the guys in front of the shops were calling for me to come in. The problem was that I already had a girl (sitting between me and the driver). Too late. So MY question is: what's up? Are they refusing people who just walk up these days? Are there certain times when farang are welcome, and times when they're not?

Saint Jack
02-20-08, 13:56
Saint jack,

You are being a nice guy but nice guy is the one that over paid and kill the market , I paid 20 baht for moto bike from central market to martini and I never paid the mommie the girl don't work for them they are freelance ad the girl will tell you anything just to go early so she can go back the bar for another customer I would just give her 15 usd and say good bye .

Fast Eddir 48,

May be I'm too naive to believe what these girls says. I have little resistance when being nagged or asked by girl for something hugging and smiling...


SJ

Kenny Rogers
02-21-08, 02:43
Can anyone recommend a decent hotel in Phnom Penh?

I've used the River Star (not Riverside) twice-its cheap & Clean, but VERY basic and not my style. Been to the Bougainvillier twice, nice but NOT Girl friendly (they demand girls ID card and bribing is both expensive & embarrassing).

Interconti was okay but costly, $1000 five days.

I do need Internet (willing to pay extra) and a safe in the room; the hotel should be girl friendly and preferably around Sisowath Quai. Anyone some idea?

Cepu19
02-21-08, 03:44
my company, a hotel chain is sending me over here, and i have several questions if somebody can help me out. as a newbie please don;t laugh.

1. are these girls in the bars only or in the streets like usa?
2. what is the legal age for intercourse?
3. is the trade(prostitution) legal?
4. can we the guys get in trouble for partaking in the act?

thanks bunches!1.. all of the above. walkabout and sharkyís are large freelance bars. at walkabout you will find girls 24/7 it never shut. you will also find freelance in martiniís and heart of darkness discos.

there are many hostess bars all over pp where there are girls available but you will have to bar fine them and will be hit up for lady drinks.

for street walkers go to hun sen park where you will find plenty late afternoon. you will also find them at riverside and 51 st up near sorea market. you will find them in the shopping centre if you have an eye for girls walking aimlessly around.

on 271 street toul kork and 63 rd street (careful scams are rife here) there are shop front knock shops. go pick, fuck and leave. some with very good selection. if you look around you will find similar cheap shops all around the place. after a while you will notice many advertise 5000 riel this and that.

there are several brothel bars. mikado, cyree and sophies to mention a few. the concept simple. sit have a beer Ė in sophies have a bj with your beer Ė pick and retire to a room either on premise or just next door.

2. Ė if you are paying for it 18 years is the only safe option. you can be prosecuted in the usa for doing a girl under the age of 18 so donít.

3. Ė no prostitution is not legal and neither is providing premises for it. the penalties are harsh as the fellow from listerine bar found out the hard way. it is however tolerated so take it easy. stay away from ****, pay the girl what you promised to pay her beforehand and you should be ok.

4. Ė as above Ė some care with taking pictures, but donít be paranoid. donít do **** stuff, be discrete, get away if there is trouble and unless you have been really stupid Ė there is nothing a bit of money wonít fix.

have a good time and report your finding back to us.

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BangBangBang
02-21-08, 09:37
Folks,

Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.

bbb

Bruce M57
02-21-08, 13:40
Wow thanks a whole bunch. Over here in USA, I love the asian women, and have been with several, OK. MANY! The younger ones seem to be more energetic, but lack the skills usually, the older ones tend to be more fun, but nearly as firm.

I prefer the smaller spinner types, LOVE the flat chested ones that shave below. I see many pics on here and it seems liek most girls DO NOT SHAVE their pubes but do shave under arms etc. I also see some small breasted girls but they seem very hard, and almost like a fake tit job. Or are they just so firm and beautiful?

Anyway thanks so much, can't wait to get over there and sample the ladies.

Bruce

Jazzy Daddy
02-21-08, 19:40
If your talking about SH bar across from Flamingo Hotel they certainly were last year and if they like you they'll give you their phone number for hook up after work or during the day. I arrive on the 6th of March, can't wait...


Folks,

Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.

bbb

Cepu19
02-21-08, 21:21
Only had bad experiences with SH girls. Would not worry about it again. Happened more than once that the girl did a runner even before the hotel. They seems to be looking primarialy for boyfriends.

Cam Bodia
02-21-08, 22:57
Hi there,

We've stayed at the Intercontinental very good but quite expensive. A good alternative is the Sunway Hotel very clean and spacious rooms, some with balcony, internet available safe in room and very girl friendly, when we took a girl back which was most nights they didn't ask for any id but when the girl was leaving they would ring to make sure everything was ok before she could leave.

Have also stayed at Phnom Penh Hhotel which was ok again very girl friendly but feel the position of the Sunway is better.

Southbound69
02-22-08, 06:51
Folks,

Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.

bbbYeah, I was at SH bar in November, spent a good part of the evening and early morning there. It seemed that the girls only wanted to be barfined to go dancing. They were also very pushy for the lady drinks. There was no sign of them willing to back to the hotel for P4P. Didn't return to SH because of that.

Southbound69

Mangofan
02-23-08, 02:45
Folks,

Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.

bbb


Yeah the Shanghai bar is one of the worst. I was there a little over a year ago. It has a nice atmosphere, and the girls are pretty, but I never had any luck at taking them out. I even spent my last night chatting one up, buying her drinks, etc. and when I asked her to come back to the room with me, her response was "I never go with customer."

Stay away.

Xdentx
02-23-08, 02:52
I stayed in the Himawari Hotel-Apartments for three nights in January and enjoyed it very much. It's definitely upscale and overlooks the river. My spaceous studio included a small kitchen, tv., internet at no extra charge, and an outstanding breakfast each day. Two monogramed cotton bathrobes in the closet were appreciated by the ladies. Not sure if I'd want to have breakfast there with my overnight guest however. They attract businessmen and familys. They are very guest friendly..don't ask for any id....no problem. They may ask which room you're registered in when you go up the elevator...which is in a fairly quiet and accessible part of the lobby. They always called the room to make sure everything was fine before letting the girl leave. Very courteous. In room safe, outdoor swimming pool, indoor recreation room. You can easily walk to the Palace grounds from there. Cost was about $128/day, but if that doesn't bother you, go for it. See their web site for pics and details. I would stay there again. Had been booked into the Bougainviller, but cancelled that after reading about the loud ongoing construction noise next door and the owner's lack of friendliness.

http://www.himawarihotel.com/

Saint Jack
02-23-08, 10:34
Folks,

Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.

bbb

I did barfines a girl last year; did ask for the price and she said it's up to me. Have to pay 5 USD barfine to the bar though. Please see my report in September 07.


SJ

Member #4364
02-23-08, 14:34
@ Mango; i took one from the Shanghai Bar; in the room; no service; worse
situation; i kicked her out. I will never visit that bar again

Bone M All
02-23-08, 15:50
What's the deal with these places?

Kenny Rogers
02-23-08, 23:53
@ Mango; i took one from the Shanghai Bar; in the room; no service; worse situation; i kicked her out. I will never visit that bar againI can confirm this- took a girl from Shanghai bar twice with pretty disappointing results. Martini or 63rd Street is much better.

Whoreman
02-24-08, 10:46
I agree that Shanghai Bar is a waste of time. I went in and sat down. None of the girls bothered to approach me. And no I'm not some hideous old man - I was the youngest customer in the bar. At least in the other "friendly hostesses" bars it's easy to pick a girl you want to "chat up". Shanghai seems to be popular with do-gooder English teacher and charity worker types rather than mongers. If I want to spend my time chatting up Khmer girls there are millions of them outside the "friendly hostesses" bars who are much better company. If I want P4P I'll go somewhere without all the bullshit you get in this bar.

HenryV
02-24-08, 17:58
I post regularly (when I visit) on the Filipina/Thai boards.

I actually enjoy the "interview" portion of mongering. It can be fun and stimulating, i.e., listening to the gal review her skills, accomplishments, and performance promises. It can also better position you for later disagreeements. You would be surprised how some of them wilt when you restate their own promises. Also, the increased conversation gives you more of a feel as to whether you should "have at it" at all.

By the way, I will be visiting Cambodia in a few months, and advice on a hotel in PP central to most of mongering opportunities.

Thanks.


[QUOTE=Gumbyy]Sorry this is about an incident that happened about 6 months ago. I'm just getting around to posting it now.

I picked up a tall girl from Martini's who looked Vietnamese but was Cambodian. We went to the nearby short time guesthouse, I think called "shining star". When I got in bed with her, she would not let me kiss her face, and would not let me kiss her breasts. Not in the mood for this kind of bs, I quickly decided to cut my losses. I started getting dressed and gave her $5 compensation for the 10 minutes she spent with me. She became enraged and demanded I give her the entire $15 we had agreed on, even though no sex took place.

I told her that $5 was enough under the circumstances (I had also wasted another $5 for the hotel room), and she gets on her phone and starts talking to someone. We both walk downstairs and out of the guesthouse, arguing all the way, but the guesthouse had locked the front gate so I could not get out. A moto driver was there, apparently the guy she had called on her phone, and he menacingly demanded I give her $15. I refused. I told the guesthouse manager to call the police. The girl offered me her phone and said I could call the police if I wanted. That was pretty naive of me, of course, as the police would probably just try to extort even more money from me.

I negotiated with the moto driver and finally he agreed that I could leave if I gave the girl $7. 50. So I did. She walked back to Martini's, screaming "You don't want to fuck me? Fuck your mother! "

Sometimes I think that one should ask the girl in advance, "do you kiss? Can I kiss you down there? " and other such questions before agreeing to go. But I hate to do that because it's not very romantic. Anyway, it's so rare that I see a girl I really find attractive in Cambodia that, when I do, I figure I'll just toss the dice and see how it goes. But sometimes it goes like this encounter, not very well.

I have had problems with Cambodian woman similar to this, which is why I only go with viatnamese woman in Cams.

The Cambodian woman seem to only f**k like a robot and thats all you get. Cambodian woman are good for marriage, if any mongers are interested, I really mean this.

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Cepu19
02-24-08, 21:27
By the way, I will be visiting Cambodia in a few months, and advice on a hotel in PP central to most of mongering opportunities.

[QUOTE=Niknoy]Central to mongering - Walkabout hotel is pretty central, well actually ground zero almost. However, it can be a bit busy and noisy. Some rooms were recently refurbished including some with spa.

Just across the road you will find Flamingo's. A much better choise in my opinion. It gets mixed reviews, management sometimes leave a bit to be desired. The advantages is close to WA, quiet, nice roof top resturant, little bar with pool table in lobby makes it a good place for a night cap before retireing with you girl for the night.

From either of these there are a few hostess bars and Walkabout, Heart of Darkness Disco as well as 63rd street within walking distance.

Any of the riverside hotels towards the 102st end will have you centrally placed as well. I have never stayed at DV8 but I have heard good and bad about it.

In essense you are never really far from the action in PP. I often stay at one of the hotels on Monivong road. No real action directly there, but if you hire a little motorcycle (or just use the hotel motodrivers) you are never more than 5 minutes away from the action.

New York Hotel has its own fish bowl on the top floor. A slightly more expensive proposition but nice for a change. The rooms a decent but a bit more expensive than the previous options.

Hotel Big Luck and Asia Hotel are also decent options.

So, for less than $40 per night you will get a decent bed with air con. Rooms are available for less (starting at $5 to $200 or more) depending on your style and budget.

Have a great trip.

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Orange Sunshine
02-24-08, 22:27
[QUOTE=Billpsu]New York Hotel has its own fish bowl on the top floor. A slightly more expensive proposition but nice for a change.Do you remember the rates for this fish bowl? Number of girls? Provider quality?

Thanks

HenryV
02-25-08, 16:52
Thank you for taking the time to put all the information together.

Appreciated.


[QUOTE=Billpsu]By the way, I will be visiting Cambodia in a few months, and advice on a hotel in PP central to most of mongering opportunities.

Central to mongering - Walkabout hotel is pretty central, well actually ground zero almost. However, it can be a bit busy and noisy. Some rooms were recently refurbished including some with spa.

Just across the road you will find Flamingo's. A much better choise in my opinion. It gets mixed reviews, management sometimes leave a bit to be desired. The advantages is close to WA, quiet, nice roof top resturant, little bar with pool table in lobby makes it a good place for a night cap before retireing with you girl for the night.

From either of these there are a few hostess bars and Walkabout, Heart of Darkness Disco as well as 63rd street within walking distance.

Any of the riverside hotels towards the 102st end will have you centrally placed as well. I have never stayed at DV8 but I have heard good and bad about it.

In essense you are never really far from the action in PP. I often stay at one of the hotels on Monivong road. No real action directly there, but if you hire a little motorcycle (or just use the hotel motodrivers) you are never more than 5 minutes away from the action.

New York Hotel has its own fish bowl on the top floor. A slightly more expensive proposition but nice for a change. The rooms a decent but a bit more expensive than the previous options.

Hotel Big Luck and Asia Hotel are also decent options.

So, for less than $40 per night you will get a decent bed with air con. Rooms are available for less (starting at $5 to $200 or more) depending on your style and budget.

Have a great trip.

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Cepu19
02-25-08, 17:15
[QUOTE=Cepu19]Do you remember the rates for this fish bowl? Number of girls? Provider quality?

ThanksLast time I took from the Fishbowl in NY was around May. From memory (not 100% sure) it was $20 ST but don't hold me to it. Nice selection about 10 or 15 girls in the afternoon. Not really my thing but a nice change.

LexLuther
02-26-08, 01:23
Can someone please answer a question for me? What is the drug the Cambo gals call "Ma"?

LexLuther

Roguesta
02-26-08, 02:08
It's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. It is smoked, and is very addictive. Very bad stuff.

Orange Sunshine
02-26-08, 03:46
Last time I took from the Fishbowl in NY was around May. From memory (not 100% sure) it was $20 ST but don't hold me to it. Nice selection about 10 or 15 girls in the afternoon. Not really my thing but a nice change.Thanks. Because the fishbowl is in the hotel, do you know if it's possible to choose a girl and then have her come to your room (some soapie facilities are quite cramped)? Also, the girls were Cambodians? Vietnamese? Both?

AncntFornicatr
02-26-08, 04:54
it's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. it is smoked, and is very addictive. very bad stuff.
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last week i picked up a pleasant faced lady from walkabout and took her back to flamingo. got into the room and she displayed a beautiful body as she headed for the shower.
when she came out she asked if i had any smoke. assuming she meant tobacco or pot i said no. she then asked me for $10 so she could go somewhere and she would be right back. yeah, been there.
when i declined, she pulled out a little tiny glass pipe and explained in very poor english that she needed some smoke.
at this point i gave her $5 to make my life easier, no arguments, and told her to get the hell out.
i have been around speed freaks before and i know they are completely unpredictable and easily get violent if they are out the drug and get frustrated.
hated to miss such a nice body but i like life in the easy lane. i will post some pictures when i get a good internet connection. that might be bangkok tomorrow.
having spent 3 weeks at flamingo i find that for $25 minus 10% for staying more than 15 days i got a bargain. the people are fun, the room is adequate and clean, and the security is good wthout being intrusive. they call when a girl leaves to verify it is ok.

LexLuther
02-27-08, 01:58
It's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. It is smoked, and is very addictive. Very bad stuff.

Thanks. I did not know it was meth. I have heard that is a very addictive and destructive drug. I've also heard a lot of Cambo working girls use it a lot.

LexLuther

Algol2000
02-27-08, 02:32
Who knows address of Cathay Hotel in Phnom Penh? This is a small cheap hotel; I was there last year, and on the corner there was a pub with few girls, I took one 23 y. O. For 30$ and she gave me a good blow job, pretty body, and action, I need to return there but lost the address, this was ver close to the river, and buses to Sieam Reap, street number 114, 144 or 120, but I forgot, mayby 1 km north of american embassy; ver close to his hotel, on the same street is hotel "lucky rooms" whatever it means; does anybody know?

NanaHawk
02-27-08, 06:21
Who knows address of Cathay Hotel in Phnom Penh? This is a small cheap hotel; I was there last year, and on the corner there was a pub with few girls, I took one 23 y. O. For 30$ and she gave me a good blow job, pretty body, and action, I need to return there but lost the address, this was ver close to the river, and buses to Sieam Reap, street number 114, 144 or 120, but I forgot, mayby 1 km north of american embassy; ver close to his hotel, on the same street is hotel "lucky rooms" whatever it means; does anybody know?
Hi Algol,

a search in the local yellow pages, yellowpages-cambodia.com, suggests #123 on St 110.

Hoping this is the one you were thinking of

Hawk

Daddy San
02-27-08, 13:46
I don't want to sound unfriendly, but GOOGLE would have given all the info you needed.
Why bother the community with such trivia?!

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Cathay Hotel

Nį 123-125, Ang Duong (St. 110)
12202 Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Tel023 722 471
Tel023 427 188
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Minimus
02-28-08, 16:23
It's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. It is smoked, and is very addictive. Very bad stuff.

For Walkabout rookies, there are TONS of girls there who are addicts. I would think that most of the girls who frequent there during the day are.

Patterson
02-28-08, 18:39
Just a quick post

Shanghai bar i had 2 girls from there LT $30

Walkabout is a dump stay away horrible girls look in bad health

Good Luck

Algol2000
02-29-08, 01:13
Thanks for answer

I asked because whenever I tried to find using google, I found many cathay Hotels around the world, in China, Hong Kong, Fiji, Malaysia, Slovenia, Lithunania, everywhere except Cambodia, so I aksed here, luckily I kno wnow;

Close to this hotel I found a pub with lovely girls, I don't remember the name, nice sexy girls were there, so I wanna go there again, mayby will be in PP in few next days;

Can you tell me which pubs I should avoid now? Something changed from last years and what was good now can be worthless, where is this Shanghai bar and Walkabout? Adressess needed; and whee I can buy original Kamagra in PP, real, original, not sugar or flour or panadol pills in kamagra box, and how it works?

Thanks guys

Dinghy
02-29-08, 05:17
you didn't try very hard because googleing "cathay hotel cambodia" it's the FIRST THING THAT POPS UP ON THE GOOGLE LIST

same thing "cambodia cathay hotel"

so lets not try to spread BS about not finding it...