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01-01-07, 02:00
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Azn Playa
01-01-07, 07:07
If the girls think they can squeeze more money out of someone they will always try. It could have something to do with christmas/NYE though as the demand from mongers is at its peak and the girls can afford to be choosy. A freelancer at another bar said $40LT to me and I laughed. She then dropped to $30 and I said that I only pay $20. So many guys were in the bar she decided to take her business elsewhere which I suppose is understandable. I never ask them the price and have always paid $20 the next morning. Occassionally I have been really tired and given them $10 after one shot and will hand them 2000-4000riel to get back to the bar. The best thing to do is to not appear too eager otherwise you will get taken. If a FL refused to give me 2 pops for $20 then I wouldnt pay her the full amount. Remember there are several places in Cambodia where a ST on their premises (for a barang) goes for $5 so anything more than $10ST is a rip-off (and I'm sure the girls are well aware of this).

One Wing Low
01-01-07, 10:58
I was trying to have Tina for two pops at $20 but she just laughed. I then tried her for all night for $30 but she would rather do ST then come back to Martini to make more money. I would not want an unknown girl in the same room all night anyway for potential theft problem.

The prices seem to be standard for all girls at Martini. One night sitting at the next table to me was an old guy, 3 different girls came by begging him to take them without success. The mamasan kep encouraging other girls to convince this guy. So you could probably get lower prices if you drive a hard bargain.

Remember a bowl of noodle soup will cost about $3.00, sandwich $1.50, beer $1.50 in a bar. So $20 ST is still a very good deal relative to local costs of living, especially when these girls provide good service with no attitude problem.



One Wing Low,

Did you try to bargain?

$10 ST & $20 LT at Martini's?

MisterMax808
01-01-07, 18:22
I guess the prices have gone up now for ST at Martini's. Well, I will expect it then. I leave in 2 weeks for PP.

Thank You for your efforts. And you are right about life. Max

Oyster Lover
01-01-07, 23:43
I think your right that the girls should be happy with $20 ST. No matter the number of pops. $20 LT is more like it. Last year the girls at Martini would go for $20 LT. They might start at $30 but came down to reality quickly. The girls working in hotels and restaurants average monthly salaries is $20 A month.. If they can live off this at then $20 bucks a night is pretty good money .

Michi Michi
01-02-07, 10:46
The girls working in hotels and restaurants average monthly salaries is $20 A month.. .I know that monthly salaries for a girl working in hotel or restaurant, even in place like Shangai Bar, is $60 a month but they NEED to add some income from tips or late activities.

One Wing Low
01-02-07, 12:34
Did try that one but the girls were not attractive. The whole gang with about 5 kids were having lunch on the filthy kitchen floor. The were a few farangs sitting in the pink lighted rooms gawking the few girls.

My girl took me to a small, well-worn room where we fucked. I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. Sovann warned me about this problem and was waiting in the car, but there is not much anyone can help when your wallet is stolen. I fucked her for the experience but would not come back to the meat markets on 63rd st.

You get what you pay for. I think the $20 girls from Martini are better deals than the $5 girls on 63rd st.



If the girls think they can squeeze more money out of someone they will always try. ....Remember there are several places in Cambodia where a ST on their premises (for a barang) goes for $5 so anything more than $10ST is a rip-off (and I'm sure the girls are well aware of this).

Dysfunctional
01-02-07, 14:59
Just had excess bodily fluids drained at Cyrcee. I would say there was only one girl who would classify as being beautiful - but everyone was playful and friendly.

It's a bit disconcerting to enter and be literally swarmed by approximately ten girls, but once I figured they weren't going to pickpocket me I was able to relax, and quite enjoyed the experience. My girl gave me a quite pleasant oral examination, and could not have been more friendly.

Well worth it.

MisterMax808
01-02-07, 18:13
One Wing Low,

That is too funny! You got some kind of experience. I will be hiring Sovann too in a couple of weeks, so I will be curious about the 63rd street scene too! . Likely, I will have the same opinion as you do.

Cheers!

Phantomtiger2
01-02-07, 20:26
. I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. Sovann warned me about this problem and was waiting in the car, but there is not much anyone can help when your wallet is stolen. .


If a local driver tells you to beware, then its something that all should pay attention to as this driver is being very honest with his warning to stay away from St 63 brothels.
Note: I had some motodops trying to drive me and lure me to St 63 as some are in on the scam and takes a profit from your stolen goods.
Like I said, Sovann is honest about this.

PT

Ekspat
01-03-07, 02:18
I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport.
Why the hell do you take your passport in 63rd?? That's a no-no.

Once I went there with 5$, some 1$'s, cigs and lighter.
After the shower even the cigs were gone. :D

Cheers!

MisterMax808
01-03-07, 03:11
by all the descriptions here, i know that i will not be visiting sophie's. it all sounds too insane & maddening for me to comprehend right now. but will just stop in to take a peek at 63rd street. but then remain at the regular gathering places. martini's, shanghai, sharkey's, rose bar, dv8, etc. i hope that some others describe a few more trip reports before i leave in a couple of weeks. cheers!

Prince Harry
01-03-07, 05:24
I know that monthly salaries for a girl working in hotel or restaurant, even in place like Shangai Bar, is $60 a month but they NEED to add some income from tips or late activities.

Shangai girls are being dudded by the arsehole new pommie manager.
Wages have been lowered form 80 to 70 to 50 and last week a girl broke an already chipped mug and had 50 cents deducted from her wages.The girls get a dollar of every drink that you buy them so be fair.
The new manager has a rule that if a girl sits with you for more than ten minutes and you don't buy a drink then she moves on!
This guy put a barang customer in hospital a few weeks ago so beware,he is a ****.
I just had a call from a really beautiful khmer girl from shanghai inviting me to go her home in the bush for a few days.These young girls "never go with customer" except when they do.I have taken her and her viet mate out dancing a few times and paid for english lesons for one of them and driving lessons for the other.If one has the time to court these girls they can be very obliging and comparitively low maintenance.

Barri
01-03-07, 17:54
So I found my way up the shady staircase to Sophies Club and knocked at the door. I had never been to a fuck bar before and with the extras that was to be provided on the other side of the door (according to many excellent reports) I had mixed feelings of excitement and worry, to say the least. A smiling girl welcomed me inside and led me to the bar; the room is maybe 5 x 3 m. with the bar disk along half the right hand side and opposite this two sofas. There was only one other guy at the bar, and as I sat down next to him I was immediately surrounded by 8 – 10 girls, all looked quite OK. They chatted very amiable and obliging and as soon as I ordered a beer one of them opened my fly and started a BBBJ, oh so weird and nice! All other girls around me were asking “Go to room with me?” While I had a good look around and chatted with these girls, several girls took turn with the BBBJ without a word. Amazing! When I had made up my mind (a cutie who spoke good English), I gently said "Enough" and zipped my fly. The girls who had done the job said "I'm number one", "I'm number two" etc. and I gave each one a dollar.

My girl took me to the room opposite the bar disk; this room has quite a big bed and a washbasin, so she started by cleaning both herself and me briefly. DATY, cowgirl, doggy and mishy, I think I was overexcited and came a bit too quick. The girl was very nice all the time and we had a cuddle time afterwards; no hurry. I gave her one dollar tip, paid the mamasan 10 USD + 2 for the beer and knew I would come back soon.

MisterMax808: you really should try this!

MisterMax808
01-03-07, 21:19
How busy are the PP bars now after the new year's holidays? Is it slow or bustling?

How's the current economy in PP? Are there many tourist after the holidays in PP?

Anyone there who can answer?

MisterMax808
01-03-07, 23:33
Off Topic. I know I might get banned from here because of it, BUT...

Any one up for tennis in PP during the week of January 15th? I enjoy playing doubles or singles tennis and I am looking for any who would enjoy playing tennis each day of that week? I am an above average tennis player. Anyone available for tennis in PP? I am willing to meet at any of the tennis courts in PP. Now, don't ban me from this website because of this. Thanks!

You can email me at [Email address deleted by Admin] for your number if you can join me for tennis that week.

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Phantomtiger2
01-04-07, 00:01
Shangai girls are being dudded by the arsehole new pommie manager.
Wages have been lowered form 80 to 70 to 50 and last week a girl broke an already chipped mug and had 50 cents deducted from her wages.The girls get a dollar of every drink that you buy them so be fair.
The new manager has a rule that if a girl sits with you for more than ten minutes and you don't buy a drink then she moves on!
This guy put a barang customer in hospital a few weeks ago so beware,he is a ****.
.

Damn Harry,
I heard rumours that the Shanghai owner was a bit rough but never expect him to be that bad. I'll have to make a note of him the next time I visit PP.


PT

Phantomtiger2
01-04-07, 00:06
By all the descriptions here, I know that I will NOT be visiting Sophie's. It all sounds too insane & maddening for me to comprehend right now. !


Don't write Sophies off your list before you even arrive there. I may not have had the best time while I visited (maybe an off day for them), but in general its not a bad place to go as they will give you an honest bang for your buck--no cheaters or thieves here so good place to relax and enjoy.

PT

Barri
01-04-07, 18:11
I have added some more details to the excellent map (which I had great use of) by That Asshole 03-18-06. I much prefer walking to taking a moto or a tuktuk, so that map came in handy.

This map is of course not 100% accurate: I have simpified the street grid by making all streets in right angle to each other (it was just much easier to draw it that way) but I don’t think you will notice the difference when you walk ;).

If you find any error (maybe Heart of Darkness is in the wrong block) please tell me and I’ll correct.

Traffic777
01-04-07, 19:54
Have you guys had any problems with getting a "visa on arrival" at PP airport?
http://www.mot.gov.kh/visa.asp

1. What kind of proof of sufficient funds do I need?

2. Website says 4x6cm (2"x3", I guess) photo is required, will they take normal US passport size photo 2"x2"?

Thank you.

Phantomtiger2
01-04-07, 23:37
Have you guys had any problems with getting a "visa on arrival" at PP airport?
http://www.mot.gov.kh/visa.asp

1. What kind of proof of sufficient funds do I need?

2. Website says 4x6cm (2"x3", I guess) photo is required, will they take normal US passport size photo 2"x2"?

Thank you.

Unless you have a suspicious or fake passport, Cambo visa at PP airport is a breeze. Just hand them your passport and $20 and passport size photo and you are good to go. Takes about 10-15min (depending on how many people in front of you). Best to bring your own photo as it takes alot longer and about $10 more for them to take your mug shot.

Not sure what you meant by "having proof of sufficient funds"? as I assume you are not planning to retire there. No need to show any proof of money. Only funds I know of is to have the $20 for the visa and some money to get out of airport to your hotel.


PT

Phantomtiger2
01-04-07, 23:43
I have added some more details to the excellent map (which I had great use of) by That Asshole 03-18-06. I much prefer walking to taking a moto or a tuktuk, so that map came in handy.

This map is of course not 100% accurate: I have simpified the street grid by making all streets in right angle to each other (it was just much easier to draw it that way) but I don’t think you will notice the difference when you walk ;).

If you find any error (maybe Heart of Darkness is in the wrong block) please tell me and I’ll correct.


Although the simplified drawing of the map not a bad idea, I still think its much better to pick up the free canby PP city map (at any hotel or bar). The scale is exact and you will know exactly how far everything is. The free map covers the whole city and list most of the important places you need. It also folds very nicely to fit in your back pocket. I only used that map (made little marks of places not listed) when I was in PP and never had any trouble as the canby map is 99% accurate (at time of printing of course).


PT

Lee66
01-05-07, 05:51
all brothels on 63 st have been closed, due to ngo activity and us money. the pimps yell at male passers by yo,yo,yo. ngo's complaned to govt. Also us embassy says they have to close some brothels every time they dish out some money. this time may be closed a while, as a corner brothel is under some major renovation.

King Dong
01-05-07, 09:05
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Remember a bowl of noodle soup will cost about $3.00, sandwich $1.50, beer $1.50 in a bar.[QUOTE]A bowl of noodle soup costs 2500 to 4000 in an ok vietnamese restaurant and 1000 to 2000 riel on the street.

Anyway. One place I did not dislike in PP (chickenfarms, mostly vietnamese, some very beautiful ones) is called toul kok. It is on the street north of the (atleast spoken like Bangkok) lake. Just vis a vis the city guest house. The good places are 4 to 6 farms in a sidestreet just after some karaoke places. Not to oversee at night.

The normal price is 3 to 5 dollars. There is one place I only got down to 15 dollars for 40 minutes with 2 girls. But the girls and the blowjobs were worth it to me.

In the town Sisophon, the places near the railway (the street going to battambang) have also some very good looking girls that give good service. No rush at 150 baht. But no BJ.

MisterMax808
01-05-07, 11:06
all brothels on 63 st have been closed, due to ngo activity and us money. the pimps yell at male passers by yo,yo,yo. ngo's complaned to govt. Also us embassy says they have to close some brothels every time they dish out some money. this time may be closed a while, as a corner brothel is under some major renovation.Aare you serious? . Is 63rd really closed now? Are you in pp now? Where will all the business relocate to now?

Barri
01-05-07, 18:38
Coming back to PP after Siam Reap I stayed at Big Luck Hotel: 10 minutes walk to the main P4P area and with a swimming pool on the roof, 20 USD/night, very girl friendly. Unfortunately I had caught a flu, which had a severe effect on my activities.

However, just to check the scene I visited Cyrcée. Same friendly atmosphere as at Sophies: plenty of girls but more customers. In an instant I was surrounded by a handful of girls, but when I told them I had a flu and didn't want to pass it on, all of them but one moved off. The one who stayed had a real beautiful face, although not typical Asian, and when she sat on my lap I noticed she had no panties: she had the most soft pussy hair I've ever touched, like silk. Ada was her name, from Siam Reap, and I almost fell in love with her. Just for the sake of her soft pussy hair I gave her a tip as I left. When I was OK a few days later and returned to Cyrcée, she unfortunately wasn't working that night. Never mind, I picked another girl, and went to a room. Nice and clean room with painted stucco in the ceiling but no bath room: we had to sneak upstairs for a quick wash. The girl said that the bottom room was the best; had shower and AC. Great french kissing, good session and afterwards some cuddling; no hurry at all. Paid the girl 15 + tip and then at the bar 4 for room and beer.

Before going to Cambodia I never thought I'd enter a fuck bar (I absolutely prefer LT), but after a couple of visits at Sophies, Cyrcée and Blue Wave (in Siam Reap) I'm hooked. I have been lucky with nice and friendly girls and got first class treatment from all of them.

At Martinis there are a lot of mama-sans trying to introduce their ladies, but to me they only showed old, ugly ones. After some time I spotted a dark skinned petite girl at the pool table, bought her a drink and chatted with her for a while. She was hesitating in coming with me to the hotel, but one of her friends (a girl that I had rejected) persuaded her. We agreed on 20 for the night. At the hotel I got a surprise: She said "No boom boom, only massage"! She said she was sick in the pussy. I sent her out with a dollar for the moto. The reception actually called back to check if it was alright for the lady to leave.

Next time at Martinis I also took my time. The occasional stunner passed by, but showed no interest. Saw a petite cutie, agreed on 20 USD till 7 in the morning, and off to the hotel. When she had washed the cream off her face she was not that cute any more: a lot of scars after pimples. Sex was lukewarm and I fall asleep after one session. In the morning, when she had woken up I said "Boom boom?" and she said ""Why?". Quite a turn off, but I had a good hard on and fucked her quickly. No tip for that girl, but I gave her a T-shirt, because she had only a night club top and was worried about going out with bare shoulders.

Conclusion: I had a good time with ST pros, but with LT free lancers not so good. Why?

(Maybe 548267 ;) )

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Phantomtiger2
01-05-07, 23:19
Aare you serious? . Is 63rd really closed now? Are you in pp now? Where will all the business relocate to now?

Dont worry Max,
You're not missing much if they are closed. Just hope they dont relocate to another place (unknown to us) to scam mongers all over again.
At least at St 63 we all knew where they were.


PT

Lee66
01-06-07, 05:16
Yes all of them are closed. I was just there ,left on January 6 2007. Does not matter, as they have been going down hill for quite somtime.

Barri
01-06-07, 13:41
... I still think its much better to pick up the free canby PP city map (at any hotel or bar). The scale is exact and you will know exactly how far everything is. Phantomtiger2, is the canby PP city map same as the 3D PP map? I got that at my hotel but couldn't find e.g. Cyrcée. Even my moto driver didn't know where it was; he had to ask his collegues two times before he found the way.

Barri
01-06-07, 13:52
I had bought a pack of each Kamagra 100mg, Zeagra 100mg, and also Apcalis 20mg (a member once called this "the week end pill") at pharmacy Socheat on street 136 near the market. Five years ago I had erectile problems, and since then I've used a blue pill I found in China. I don't think I really need it nowadays, but I don't take chances ;). Now I wanted to test these pills, especially since the prices are so low in Phnom Penh.

I took the yellow pill at four occasions, all when I planned for a LT; once in Siam Reap and thrice in Phnom Penh.

Now I put it to you that Apcalis has a possible, hitherto undocumented side effect: deteriorated discrimination alternatively bad luck.

For the lady I picked at these occasions see following reports:
1. Phnom Penh: Did not write a separate report. Picked her up at Sharkys, she changed mood totally at the hotel and became very cold and rejecting. After the first session she spent 5 minutes in the shower, cleared her throat over and over again though we not even had had a proper French kiss, far less a BJ or CIM. After a boring second session I got fed up with her and sent her packing. Saw her circling at Sharkys every time I was there.
2. Siam Reap: Zone One Princess 547958
3. and 4. Phnom Penh: Martini Dry 547961

So I ask the ISG panel: deteriorated discernment, bad luck or just a coincidence?

Thierry I
01-07-07, 09:27
[QUOTE=Barri]..... Now I wanted to test these pills, especially since the prices are so low in Phnom Penh.[QUOTE]Believe my friend, if they are cheap, they are fake and you don't want to try them.

It is very hard to get genuine medicines in Cambodia, apart from one or 2 pharmacies in Phnom Penh that sell Western imported medicines at western prices.

Phantomtiger2
01-07-07, 18:32
Phantomtiger2, is the canby PP city map same as the 3D PP map? I got that at my hotel but couldn't find e.g. Cyrcée. Even my moto driver didn't know where it was; he had to ask his collegues two times before he found the way.

No, 2 different maps. The canby map is very detail with exact scale of almost every street in PP. Also list almost every place you need to go (listed location on Canby map will show locations for: Sophie, Cyree, Flamingo hotel, Sharky, Shanghai, Hearts of Darkness, Walkabout, Martini etc.
Note: Also very important as you may need it in an emergency is that the map also shows where all the Embassies are located (hope you wont need that info but nice to know its available).
Like I said (almost) all you need are on this map. Anything thats left out that you may want to visit, just take a pen and mark it on the map (like I did).
You may have missed it as the actual folded map is very small, only about 3inx3in.- but unfolds to reveal lots of info.
Remember the map is FREE, so dont let anyone con you into paying for it.


Cheers.

PT

Phantomtiger2
01-07-07, 19:09
Conclusion: I had a good time with ST pros, but with LT free lancers not so good. Why?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


Its the same everywhere. It really depends on the gal and your luck. Some good ST f**ks turn out to be bad LT. And some LT are just scams.
As you become more experienced monger (hopefully) you will just let it go, make a note to never pick her up again (report it here of course) and move on to your next target.

PT

Girlfinder
01-08-07, 00:19
So I ask the ISG panel: deteriorated discernment, bad luck or just a coincidence?

I think both bad luck AND coincidence :)

My experience in PP a year ago was quite different:
Some $7 girls was really good was only ST, but I meet LT girls at Martinis for $25 LT having nice nights.

And I met this cutie 21 yo Ina, sorry friends nonude, who stayed several days. She cried when I wanted a brake for some days, did not ask for money at all. But I tipped her, of course.

Barri, better luck next time I hope !

NanaHawk
01-08-07, 01:18
Phantomtiger2, is the canby PP city map same as the 3D PP map? I got that at my hotel but couldn't find e.g. Cyrcée. Even my moto driver didn't know where it was; he had to ask his collegues two times before he found the way.Hi there Barri,

In my experience the motodups know where most places are but problems occur with Western pronunciation. I was feeling lazy the other week, ok very lazy, and took motodup from Shanghai to Soria centre. I could not believe it when the driver did not know where it was until it was pronounced with a very great emphasis on the final "A" to make it SoriAA Centre.

I have heard some strange pronunciations of Le Cyrcee including something like La Sharee; it even had me wondering if there were two clubs being discussed.

MisterMax808
01-08-07, 05:42
Girlfinder,

Where does "Ina" work at now?

I'd like to look her up when I'm in town next week!

Azn Playa
01-08-07, 14:35
Did try that one but the girls were not attractive. The whole gang with about 5 kids were having lunch on the filthy kitchen floor. The were a few farangs sitting in the pink lighted rooms gawking the few girls.

My girl took me to a small, well-worn room where we fucked. I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. Sovann warned me about this problem and was waiting in the car, but there is not much anyone can help when your wallet is stolen. I fucked her for the experience but would not come back to the meat markets on 63rd st.

You get what you pay for. I think the $20 girls from Martini are better deals than the $5 girls on 63rd st.

If you take a girl from Martini's for ST its $10. I have never paid more than that (but usually take the girl all night for $20 which includes three rounds). If I'm tired or the girl's attitude changes after the first round (or she looks like she wants to get back to the bar) I will give her $10 and some riel for a moto.
I dont use St 63 but have been to other places in Cambodia where the price is definately $5 and they dont try to scam you or steal from you as they are usually thinking about your repeat business.

In regards to Sophie's and Le Cyrcee bars, I think Sophie's is better value. If Cyrcee is charging $2 for the room on top of $15 for the girl (and the almost obligatory $2 beer/coke) then its starting to get too expensive for the quality on offer. I asked about LT and the girl told me $30 for her and $7 for the mama - and as its been mentioned before, these arent lookers! One girl tried persuading me that she would do everything I wanted all night, which is possible, but I have that available from Vietnamese girls who are happy with $20. It seems as though a drink at Sophie's IS expected unless you are a regular there and then the mama wont force the issue. If you are the only guy in there you will get a lot of attention for the price of a $2 drink and the sample BJs for $1 are your call. Show interest in one girl quickly and the others will back off. The sofas are more comfortable to scope out the girls than the bar stools too.

And hats off to those of you who DFK/DATY with these girls - you've got more guts than me! One girl at Sophie's hardly washed after I had finished with her and she gave me one of the best BJs I've had in a long time. After a quick splash of water she dressed and just sat down with her friends and waited for the next guy. The last thing I would want is a bad throat infection (or worse) spoiling the next week of my holiday there.

Barri
01-08-07, 17:14
.... problems occur with Western pronunciation...Hi NanaHawk,
Yeah, could have been: First he drove to FCC. Then the guy we asked emphasized LE Cyrcée.

Can't find it in my dictionary either.

Barri
01-08-07, 17:24
Its the same everywhere. It really depends on the gal and your luck. ...As you become more experienced monger (hopefully) you will just let it go, ...Phantomtiger2, I appreciate your mature, balanced and knowledgeable comments and replies (this is absolutely not ironic!). Yes I know it is like rolling a dice. As you say, with more experience I might know better when to roll. I suppose one has to gain that experience in each country. But actually I had planned to insert a link to a future report, the "Side effect", after the "Why" as a self ironic grimace, but I got distracted by another discussion. The link is there now.

As for the canby map I had missed that, but will keep it in mind next time.

Phantomtiger2
01-08-07, 18:29
Phantomtiger2, I appreciate your mature, balanced and knowledgeable comments and replies (this is absolutely not ironic!). Yes I know it is like rolling a dice. As you say, with more experience I might know better when to roll. I suppose one has to gain that experience in each country. But actually I had planned to insert a link to a future report, the "Side effect", after the "Why" as a self ironic grimace, but I got distracted by another discussion. The link is there now.

As for the canby map I had missed that, but will keep it in mind next time.


No problem Barri,
More experience will definitely help in each country you visit as some are better than others but dont let that fool you either as many of us senior mongers get burn once in a while despite all our precautions, its the nature of the game (with experience you will win alot more but can also lose on occasions).



PT

NanaHawk
01-08-07, 19:04
There is lots of discussion of Sophies and Le Cyrcee but I have seen no mention of the re-opened SOHO2.

SOHO2 is a second floor bar on the same street as Howie and Heart of Darkness. It is in the next block as you walk away from Heart of Darkness.

The bar used to have the theme of the girls being dressed in nurses uniform but it closed down a little while ago. When it re-opened, just before Christmas, it had a new theme and is now a BJ bar run in the same manner as the Star of Light in Bangkok's Patpong.

All of the girls working there are Vietnamese, though the selection was a little limited while I was there. I was told that a recruitment drive will increase the options by now.

There are two tables with curtains hanging from their edges. The girls enter a room marked 'Office' where they can gain entry to a hatchway that allows access to the space beneath the tables.

It's all a little more discrete than Sophies and allows the more shy among us to partake of a BJ while enjoying a beer and continuing our conversations.

Mai Yao
01-08-07, 22:33
Shangai girls are being dudded by the arsehole new pommie manager.

Wages have been lowered form 80 to 70 to 50 and last week a girl broke an already chipped mug and had 50 cents deducted from her wages. The girls get a dollar of every drink that you buy them so be fair.

The new manager has a rule that if a girl sits with you for more than ten minutes and you don't buy a drink then she moves on!

This guy put a barang customer in hospital a few weeks ago so beware, he is a ****.He was an asst. manager at Sharky's for a couple of years, actually worked at Shanghai Bar for a while before that but had a falling-out with the owner. Shanghai's gone thru 6 or 7 managers since, I guess he's recycling them now. He's an ok guy when sober but that's a pretty rare event.

Mai Yao
01-08-07, 22:42
There is lots of discussion of Sophies and Le Cyrcee but I have seen no mention of the re-opened SOHO2.

SOHO2 is a second floor bar on the same street as Howie and Heart of Darkness. It is in the next block as you walk away from Heart of Darkness.

The bar used to have the theme of the girls being dressed in nurses uniform but it closed down a little while ago. When it re-opened, just before Christmas, it had a new theme and is now a BJ bar run in the same manner as the Star of Light in Bangkok's Patpong.

All of the girls working there are Vietnamese, though the selection was a little limited while I was there. I was told that a recruitment drive will increase the options by now.

There are two tables with curtains hanging from their edges. The girls enter a room marked 'Office' where they can gain entry to a hatchway that allows access to the space beneath the tables.

It's all a little more discrete than Sophies and allows the more shy among us to partake of a BJ while enjoying a beer and continuing our conversations.Went in there last spring, the stairway up was easily the filthiest I've seen in Phnom Phen; a true distinction. The Nurses uniforms were so dirty and stained that the girls wearing them reminded me more of morgue attendents than nurses.

Good to read that they've cleaned it up. They did clean the stairway, didn't they?

Pak Mike
01-09-07, 00:28
It's all a little more discrete than Sophies and allows the more shy among us to partake of a BJ while enjoying a beer and continuing our conversations.

So there is a trapdoor under the floor?

Continue conversations while enjoying a BJ..... Mmmm, could be difficult!!!!

OK, am looking forward for a FR, and may be on my list on my next visit. I have had a few drinks at SOHO in the past, a couple of cuties there, but was never sure about take-outs or any on premise activities, place always seemed quiet so maybe why it has closed and re-opened with a new theme. Same owner as previously, a Brit I beleive?

NanaHawk
01-09-07, 07:51
So there is a trapdoor under the floor?

Continue conversations while enjoying a BJ..... Mmmm, could be difficult!

OK, am looking forward for a FR, and may be on my list on my next visit. I have had a few drinks at SOHO in the past, a couple of cuties there, but was never sure about take-outs or any on premise activities, place always seemed quiet so maybe why it has closed and re-opened with a new theme. Same owner as previously, a Brit I beleive?Continuing conversation just adds to the fun (with the right company).

There is no room available for additional services but I believe that the girls can be taken out, if that's what you want.

I'm pretty sure that the ownership has changed, though I heard a rumour that it was picked up for a song due the previous owner/manager just walking out. I don't think I ever met the previous owner but the new owner sounds British.

They also had some problems with the police a few days after they opened but now that they have been resolved I reckon they could become a fixture on the scene.

BangBangBang
01-09-07, 13:41
Hello,, folks

2 recommendations, based on bad experiences I recently had in PNH. Note that these represent a small % of my totalexperiences, so overall, it's been good over the past 10 years.

But I thought I'd share. And mayeb make yo smile.

BJ Bars: I had a BBBJCIM at Sophie's, two days later, drip drip drip, go to the doctor. I am rather confident that BJ was the origin of my buring/spewing. Not sure how to prevent that for next time. Was it an isolated incident? Maybe. It just feels like russian roulette.

SW Pickup: I picked up a SW along national monument. Great looks, no makeup, sweet smile, all I like. While in the room, she wanted to smoke, not cigarettes, but smoke Yaba and some other sort of stuff. What the hell, it was year end so I let it happen.

That stuff is in form of pills or powders, which she burns on an aluminum foil, while she (and later I) inhale through a bang made of a plastic bottle and straws. Needless to say that stuff is great. Happy, love, all great, singing, dancing. But no hard-on: (I must have tried it all, for hours, but could not conclude. So I played with the gurl for hours. She had a fantastic body, but it was frustrating not to execute. Later, she wanted more of that yaba stuff, so I sent her out, and in the meantime, reached for my emergency kit of Cialis, Livitra and Viagra. Took Levitra, nothing happened for 2 hours. Smoked more, then tried boom boom again. No way. Finally resigned to take 50mg Viagra. 1 hour later, the effects appeared, but as usual, weak sensitivity. It was 4 AM. Now she wanted to sleep, so she did, but I could not sleep at all for the whole night.

Woken up by the honking around 7, I insisted to go on and try again. I had to manually conclude, spraying her back. What a shame.

The lesson: (1) Never take that yaba (or whatever) shit. It took me 3 days to come down, during which my emotional barometer was +100 to.10 every 10 seconds. Needless to say, I could have done her 2 or 3 times and enjoy it.

(2) If you do take yaba, do not pay 20 bucks for it. It should be a few bucks at most.

I am sure you guys are more resonable than I was, so no need to remind you of the dangers. And missed opportunities!

Cheers,

BangBangBang

Girlfinder
01-09-07, 23:10
Girlfinder, Where does "Ina" work at now? I'd like to look her up when I'm in town next week!
Try asking for Apple, at a freelance place Hearts of Darkness. She likes playing pool! Maybe you are lucky, would like to hear from you if you find her, good luck :)

MisterMax808
01-10-07, 03:10
Thanks girlfinder, I shall put her on my "list to do" when I am there next week.

I will let you know if I was successful or not.

Blackangst
01-10-07, 04:19
Hello,, folks

2 recommendations, based on bad experiences I recently had in PNH. Note that these represent a small % of my totalexperiences, so overall, it's been good over the past 10 years.

But I thought I'd share. And mayeb make yo smile.

BJ Bars: I had a BBBJCIM at Sophie's, two days later, drip drip drip, go to the doctor. I am rather confident that BJ was the origin of my buring/spewing. Not sure how to prevent that for next time. Was it an isolated incident? Maybe. It just feels like russian roulette.

SW Pickup: I picked up a SW along national monument. Great looks, no makeup, sweet smile, all I like. While in the room, she wanted to smoke, not cigarettes, but smoke Yaba and some other sort of stuff. What the hell, it was year end so I let it happen.

That stuff is in form of pills or powders, which she burns on an aluminum foil, while she (and later I) inhale through a bang made of a plastic bottle and straws. Needless to say that stuff is great. Happy, love, all great, singing, dancing. But no hard-on: (I must have tried it all, for hours, but could not conclude. So I played with the gurl for hours. She had a fantastic body, but it was frustrating not to execute. Later, she wanted more of that yaba stuff, so I sent her out, and in the meantime, reached for my emergency kit of Cialis, Livitra and Viagra. Took Levitra, nothing happened for 2 hours. Smoked more, then tried boom boom again. No way. Finally resigned to take 50mg Viagra. 1 hour later, the effects appeared, but as usual, weak sensitivity. It was 4 AM. Now she wanted to sleep, so she did, but I could not sleep at all for the whole night.

Woken up by the honking around 7, I insisted to go on and try again. I had to manually conclude, spraying her back. What a shame.

The lesson: (1) Never take that yaba (or whatever) shit. It took me 3 days to come down, during which my emotional barometer was +100 to.10 every 10 seconds. Needless to say, I could have done her 2 or 3 times and enjoy it.

(2) If you do take yaba, do not pay 20 bucks for it. It should be a few bucks at most.

I am sure you guys are more resonable than I was, so no need to remind you of the dangers. And missed opportunities!

Cheers,

BangBangBangDude. A couple of things.

First, yuba is meth. I'm suprised you couldn't finish the deal as most guys stay hard for days, but I digress.

Second and most importantly. Stay away from that shit man. If you don't know about meth, read up. I don't mean the stuff you see on the news, but scientific stuff. There really arent too many things more harmful OR ADDICTIVE than meth. Seriously. I enjot a recreational pill now and thewn, and based on accounts of the high I would love to try it. But hell no. I have too much to lose and so do you. Stay the hell away man.

Denom
01-10-07, 07:47
When it re-opened, just before Christmas, it had a new theme and is now a BJ bar run in the same manner as the Star of Light in Bangkok's Patpong.Better than Star of Light I would say, because, strangely, Star of Light has now made a concrete bar so no more hanky panky when you get your drink. You have to sit on the couch and that takes a bit the charm off.

Forever69
01-10-07, 13:26
BBB. Sounds to me the girl was smoking heroin. We all like to play with fire sometimes, but not standing ankle deep in gasoline.

Mangga
01-11-07, 02:53
A new BJ bar in PP! Wow, that is good news. I'm getting over that way soon, so keep up the detailed reports, oh my brothers....

Lone Punter
01-11-07, 04:41
Time was due for such confessions. 2 years ago I lost almost 10 days of precious holidays in Thailand after developing some kind of ulcer after beeing serviced at a most famous BJ-bar. It scared the shit out of me as I thought it might be syphilis or so. But this was not confirmed at Bumrumgrad. Last year I l enjoyed the welcome at Sophies. 3 girls competing to suck me just after arriving at the bar, had to push one of them away after I felt some "itch", later at the hotel I discover a very superficial bite mark. Believe me, you would not be relaxed until you get your negative HIV test as I did.

When several girls are just to eager to gain your favors, this might just happen but you are definitively at risk places like that. As great as the service basically is, I now totally stay out of BJ-bars now, those girls are bottomline and do nothing else. BBBJ with a casual freelancer is much lesser of a risk. Just my few cents.

MisterMax808
01-11-07, 10:05
In just 8 hours, I will be flying out to Phnom Penh. It will be my first trip to PP, which I hope to share a good experience with this board. In the meantime, thank you all for each post here.

Max!

That Asshole
01-11-07, 11:32
Varies with taste I guess, but I did not like the Sharky bar, neither the Rose Bar or the kind. I thought the St.63, 130, 136, 144, 154 areas were a lot nicer with less farang (barang). Also, there were a lot of beautiful girls for a reasonable price, with looks that the farang bars would just dream to have. Posted complete report incl P.Pen and other areas in the "general section".
TA

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549335&postcount=249


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549334&postcount=248

Azn Playa
01-11-07, 13:42
catching a disease from a bbbj is something that i have thought about but never considered a real possibility of occuring to me. if its going to happen anywhere then sophie's, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or soi 6 pattaya will certainly be the places to get it! hasn't stopped me from visiting bj bars occasionally but i try not to make it a habit and i might need to resist the impulse for a quick release in the future. to think that some guys dfk these girls - damn!!!

if a girl takes $20 from you and returns with some shit to smoke then its likely she has keep most of it herself and made up a story about the price. ok it could have been heroin which would cost a lot but more likely yaba. a girl i used to see regularly played that scam on me often (but never gave the reason she was buying drugs) saying that the stuff from the market cost way more than i know it did (or she owed someone money and they tracked her down). the only person she owed money to would probably have been her drug dealer, as over the period of a year or so she kept losing body weight to the state of emaciation. the fact she would disappear for no apparent reason for hours then return in a different state of mind (or would cry at any time without warning) eventually made me realise there was something suspicious going on. yeah it was probably obvious to anyone else many months earlier but when a girl has (had) an ultra hot body and a passion for sex, even the best of us can get blinded by lust!

Gaudente
01-12-07, 05:23
Just arrived in PP two days ago. Tried Sophie and indeed it is fun to see the girls struggling to smoke your cock but the place is quite sleazy, I strongly suggest you to take your private small towel for your cleaning there (and to keep a Zitromax box in your luggage)
I walked along the river yesterday afternoon to check for freelancers like on Pattaya Beach Road but none of the girls sitting there seemed to be looking for bucks. Should I retry in the evening ?
In a previous post here I read about a SW found near the "national monument".Is that the Independence Monument at the end of Norodom Boulevard ? Any other places to look for SW ? Any places with afternoon action ?
Also yesterday evening walked along Str 63 but was unable to spot any brothel ...only deep darkness !

Lee66
01-12-07, 06:19
not a great place for street walkers, you can still find some at riverside in evening, at wat phnom in afternoon, and near independence monument in evening, here they have pimps.

BangBangBang
01-12-07, 10:37
You may have troubles for SW in the afternoon, unless they are Vietnamese. Cambodian would never approach you during daytime on the street, fearing to be seen & looked down by a fellow Cambodian.

Around Sharky's I saw a bunch around 8 pm. Also, there are a group of guest houses near the Central market. I would walk around, circling around, one street away from the market, and try my luck. I saw many girls waiting in front of the guest houses after hours.

I guess the key is to invest some time and get a few phone numbers in the evening, even if you don't bang them, then call them the next day, for a snack :) then.... BANG.

Good luck

BBB

First Lover
01-12-07, 13:28
this media and guide seems really a good source of information before going on holiday. i have never been to phnom penh but have been reading some of the reports here and have a question as to wether k11 svay pak is permanetly finished and closed? if so has, has the action that took place there just moved to the bars in town?

and i do not mean the alledged **** action, leave that out, please...
i don´t want to know.

do other such "party" villages exist?

Phantomtiger2
01-12-07, 18:24
. I have never been to Phnom Penh but have been reading some of the reports here and have a question as to wether K11 Svay Pak is permanetly finished and closed? If so has, has the action that took place there just moved to the bars in town?

?

Actually, if you have been reading this further back, you will see K-11 closed down permanently at least years ago (thanks to NGO weenies and your govts). Many then moved to St 63 brothels and even thats suffering the same fate. Only difference was K-11 were mostly honest brothels and St 63 are not.


PT

Ipohdog
01-13-07, 06:00
Barri, appreciate your map.

The other option, which I have used, is to use satellite photos from Google Earth. Then you can really see the layout of the city. I've done that & then put the bars & my hotel in position. I don't think I can attach that link. I think in the future, people will be able locate bars by the exact longitude & latitude using Google Earth. Its an amazing tool for when I travel. When in SR you can locate all the temples as well.

Tom


I have added some more details to the excellent map (which I had great use of) by That Asshole 03-18-06. I much prefer walking to taking a moto or a tuktuk, so that map came in handy.

This map is of course not 100% accurate: I have simpified the street grid by making all streets in right angle to each other (it was just much easier to draw it that way) but I don’t think you will notice the difference when you walk ;).

If you find any error (maybe Heart of Darkness is in the wrong block) please tell me and I’ll correct.

Krum Lov
01-13-07, 15:10
hi lone punter, thought i'd post after reading your posting. glad to hear your HIV test was negative! has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ,as lone punter attests. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.

Gaudente
01-13-07, 15:32
Yesterday evening I entered Heart of Darkness (like if there was not enough darkness in PP at night) and found absolutely no girls there, only young male cambodians.
This evening I visited Soho 2 , another useless place, just two girls dancing on the table , both unavailable until 2.a.m. !
Shall I go to Sophie for forth time in a row ???

NanaHawk
01-13-07, 22:19
hi lone punter, thought i'd post after reading your posting. glad to hear your HIV test was negative! has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ,as lone punter attests. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.If you were to find a report as you outline I would probably discount it; the reason being that unless you have only been partaking of a single activity with a single individual then it would be almost impossible to attribute the transmission of the disease to that activity.

Circumcised males are thought to be at less risk than uncircumcised due to their being less chance of the skin tearing when the penis is put somewhere under great force. I would expect that a graze on the penis caused by teeth could be an entry point for anything carried in the blood of someone giving a blow job, all they need is to have scoured their gums recently, even using a tooth brush, and bloody saliva could be at large.

Is there a high risk of such infection, probably not else we would hear far more about it, but there is a chance. I do not feel the odds are high enough against me to stop me partaking but everyone will need to make their own choice.

MisterMax808
01-14-07, 13:51
I am here now. Have been with a thai girlfriend for the past 2 days. But she's gone back to BKK now, so it's off to see the sights. I wanted to tell anyone who has never been to PP, it's chaos in form here. I haven't really settled down yet because of the shock to my mind from all the dysfunctionality which seems to function here. Will report more later.

Barri
01-15-07, 00:09
Barri, appreciate your map.

The other option, which I have used, is to use satellite photos from Google Earth. Thanks Ipohdog.
Yes, Google Earth is amazing in detail! The other day I got an idea: Wouldn't it be great to be able to upload Google Earth Placemarks: the .kmz file? Just testing it for Sophie now...

No, couldn't do it. I have just suggested to Jackson to add the file type .kmz as a valid file type for uploading: 551232. I hope I put it in the correct forum ;)

I mean, if you have Google Earth installed and click the placemark you will have a fantastic trip round the world and hit the place like magic.

Barri
01-15-07, 00:44
...Circumcised males are thought to be at less risk than uncircumcised due to their being less chance of the skin tearing when the penis is put somewhere under great force.I read this about a month ago: New York Times http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9905E0D71531F937A25751C1A9609C8B63 which says: "...The trials were stopped this week by the N.I.H. Data Safety and Monitoring Board after data showed that the Kenyan men had a 53 percent reduction in new H.I.V. infection. Twenty-two of the 1,393 circumcised men in that study caught the disease, compared with 47 of the 1,391 uncircumcised men.
In Uganda, the reduction was 48 percent..."

And BBC : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4719409.stm. In the BBC report it says: "...It is thought that the cells of the foreskin are much more susceptible to HIV than cells on other parts of the penis, so by removing the foreskin, the likelihood of infection drops..."

Less skin tear or less susceptible cells? Maybe I try circumcision when I've had my ear piercing...

MisterMax808
01-15-07, 02:41
Met a couple of great Ex pats here. Very helpful guys. Staying at the Big Luck Hotel. It's a very good hotel. Convenience, well run, breakfast included, secure, honest, & privacy and some great rooms. Martini's is the only game in town. 63rd closed down. K-11 mostly closed down. Touk Kol? . Too scared to venture to. The best lookers going for $20 ST at Martini's. You can always get the less all appealing for $10 ST. It's all about first come first served. But with a competitive price structure.

The Khmer girls are very beautiful. But sometimes they give you trouble. Or extortion. The viet girls are very fair & tiny. They don't give any trouble to the BM. 104 street appears a bit run down. Not really the highlight that people say. Maybe I will explore it more today.

NanaHawk
01-15-07, 07:36
..... 104 street appears a bit run down. Not really the highlight that people say. Maybe I will explore it more today.Give it a chance MisterMax. St. 104 has a few good bars and some that are trying to improve.

Colonial Bar & Flower Bar always seem very quiet.

Rose Bar has lots of girls but they are not all available to take out, some only available to whet your appetite. I have stayed in the rooms above here and have not been dissappointed with them but never did work out which girls would not come upstairs.

Pickled Parrot (?) always seems a little sterile and sometimes raucous. Not one of my favorites but may appeal to you with the sports theme.

Power Bar, on the corner at the end, has a lot of girls and can be good fun.

Bar 104 - never been inside but looks like a nice relaxing bar to have a drink in.

Zanzibar - for me this is the pearl in the street with lots of girls and a lively atmosphere. Coyote Ugly theme is enacted here as some of the most enthsastic bar dancers appear on a regular basis. Try at weekends and weekdays as the ex-pat crowd appear to make it busier at weekends. Because the bar is popular you sometimes find that a lot of girls have been taken and some of the atmosphere is lost. Don't forget that they have an upstairs area and a massage parlour next door.

With all bars, I would suggest trying more than once (may not need more than popping your head thru the door) before writing it off, as no bar is continually brilliant at all times of the night on every night of the week.

Some of the prices being charged by the girls on 104 are a little high with LT being between $30 and $50. When you put a bar fine on top of this then it really starts you wondering if they are worth it.

Have fun.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Gaudente
01-15-07, 08:52
two days ago went to wat phnom in the afternoon. Appearently no available girls, was instead hooked by a beggar with child, who followed and harassed me for half the circle of the place endlessly blabbering...until I spotted a girl - surely not a beauty but with a charming smile - who agreed on a $5 ST. Boarded a mototaxi and back to the hotel. Naked was surely uglier then dressed, but even worse her BJ skills really SUCKED...impossible to do anything, gave her 5$ the same just to avoid troubles, but she was not worth even 5 riels.
In the evening went to Sharkeys and spotted a viet gal, asked "how much for short time, blow job only ?" "she answered "15$" "should be 10""I replied "OK,OK 10$for you" she agreed.
Back in room, just after shower and before BJ, she DARED TO ASK "How much you give me ?" "10$ as we agreed" was my answer...."no,no, I told you 15$" she started bitching....after both of us repeating 10 times the same sentence I told her " if you insist on 15$ you can dress up and go" that finally ended the ridicolous discussion and she gave me a so-so blow job.
I wonder was it worth to wake up at 3.30 in the morning in Pattaya to get the fucked Airasia plane at 7 a.m. just to have to argue with a such a spoiled ***** for a blow job ? The only attraction Cambodia had to offer was the fine attitude of sex workers, where has it gone ?
Should I rename Cambodia "Italy 3" (being "Italy 2" taken by Romania already), that is another "land of taxes and self made hand jobs"?

Gaudente
01-15-07, 09:06
Yesterday evening went to Independence Monument to look for SW. Found one, she asked 20$ (!!!!) for ST . Replied 5$ and went to hotel. Here she started blabbering she did not want make blow job (after promising the opposite before),asked her to make hand job, but even for that her skill sucked. Being her rather cute, I just hugged her on the bed and cuddled a few minutes before sending her away with her TOTALLY UNDESERVED 5$ (again she was not worth even 5 riels).
Went to Sophies, took a girl inside room and after say 20 minutes she started complaining that I was taking too much time, in the other room the light had been switched on/off two times , meaning 3 customers had done their deed there already, while me was slowing down business. Gave up the come, dressed up, paid the bill to mamasan , one of the girl who DID NOT GIVE ME the sample blow job tried to scam me 1$ mixing with the 3 who actually did, moved out of the place determined to never come back.
Now I am trying to anticipate my return flight to Thailand, but being this Cambodia their website does not work correctly and could not change the date of my flight. I am waiting for a reply to the e-mail I sent them to see if I can get out of this shit hole somehow....

Ekspat
01-15-07, 09:11
Hmmm,
I've been quite regular in PP in 2002-2004, once in 2005, none in 2006 and was seriously considering to return to Cambodia for some fun soon. Have many very pleasant memories abt Martini, Sophie etc. But reading all this it seems not worth it. Better I stick with Manila/AC/Jakarta so far until more promising reports come in here again.

Cheers!

Ekspat
01-15-07, 09:15
I am waiting for a reply to the e-mail I sent them to see if I can get out of this shit hole somehow....
Call them, man. From the website:
Malaysia +60 3 8775 4000
Thailand +66 2 515 9999
Others +60 3 8660 4343
Hope it helps.
Cheers!

BangBangBang
01-15-07, 15:18
i have stayed there a few times, ok location, and also because the staff kinda knows me and they speak chinese (i'm not chinese but 3 years in china did that to me). they use to broadcast porn for free on their tv system...nice. i sometimes take the vip room, which i like because of mirrors all over. great for photos or just enjoying multi-angle action.

during my last stay i was surprised to see on the night table the typical hotel guide with phone dialing instructions, emergencies, laundry service,.... and also 'woman or men to sleep with". bellman advertises that at $40. avoid.

in the afternoon, i tried the in-room $5 massage service. a beautiful, brown skin and perfect body cambodian girl in her 24's came by. her massage, as expected, was sub-standard, but i needed one. towards the end of the session, we started talking massaging the central unit. she started at $40, we closed the deal at $15. we quickly showered, and got under the bedsheets. well, was that girl difficult... could not touch her or kiss anywhere. ok, i understand, sometimes they are reserved. then, when i started banging, she refused doggy style. i only had that one time in japan, and had to pay to get the girl to flip over, but here, no way.... she just would not give me doggy... maybe she was shy of showing her anus, or scared i would try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her anal? maybe the experts can share light. i sent her back, frustrated.

next day, wanted to give it another chance and specifically asked a vietnamese girl, knowing they are usually less fussy. well, after a lousy massage, she asked for $45. i said $10, expecting her to come back with some more reasonable number, but she did not. i sent her back, with difficulty as she wanted moto money, refusing to leave the room,... angry.

morality: i have not found the recipe to get good in-room afternoon massage and action. 100% hit or miss. but if you get a good one, get her number for repeats, and sharing here!

bbb

MisterMax808
01-16-07, 03:32
A brief report. There's so much to tell, but just a bit of dark humor here. One australian said, "the Khmer girls here lie when the truth would do"! . And that is what I am quickly finding out about PP. The khmer girl will tell you boom-boom, yum-yum, & LT is okay. Agree upon a price. And then when they return to your room with you. They say no do yum yum. Not viet. No LT. Got to go home.

When you push the long term part as agreed upon and pair already to their pimp. She ends up crying all night until you give in & let her go home! . That is life here. Yes, the Philippines is better for one other reason. Some of the girls in the PI are still "soft". Not hardened. In PP, by the time they are "legal" or 18 y/o, they are hardened "Pros"! No shit!

Live & learn. Max

Gaudente
01-16-07, 05:03
Yesterday evening went to Le Circee : three cute girls, everyone asking $30 for a short time. I wonder if I have "idiot" written on my face.Moved to Sharky, some cute girls there too, everyone asking $20 up for a short time.
What can I say ? Sometimes a good day of abstinence is healthy, and the pleasure of denying such stupid greed people your money far greater of the lousy services they provide.

Gaudente
01-16-07, 05:09
Call them, man. From the website:
Malaysia +60 3 8775 4000
Thailand +66 2 515 9999
Others +60 3 8660 4343
Hope it helps.
Cheers!
With a 2$ minute rate I do not dare to try to change my itinerary by phone.That might easily cost me 40 bucks (just think to spelling your credit card number,your name to someone that speaks Thainglish...)
Yesterday evening I asked a travel agency that told me where the Air Asia office is here in PP, unfortunately it was closed already (closes at 5 p.m.) so I am going there now.
Thx anyway for help.

Gaudente
01-16-07, 06:23
Just changed my return flight at Air Asia office. It costed me 63$ , about 10 more bucks then the 2,040baht stated by their website that conveniently stops working just before the payment page. Who says that efficiency earns money? inefficiency gets it, if the website had worked correctly Air Asia would have earned 10 bucks less!

On my way back to the hotel the moto driver of course proposed me to see "beautiful girl for 10 bucks" . Said OK ,and indeed the girl was beautiful, but once inside the room the papasan asked for forward payment of 15$...that would have meant 20$ for sure as I did not have 15$ change and who could believe he would have given my 5$ change ? Also, what kind of service may I expect in a place where I am asked to pay in advance an amount higher then the one agreed just one minute before ? Needless to say, I walked away.

Indeed the NGO made a great job in this country. By destroying the sex scene leaving only scammers they created a place that supplies you with both the discomfort of a 3rd world country and a sex life worse then Wasteland. This way they crippled both tourism and retirement revenue ensuring forever misery for this people, and foverer huge salaries for them. Their deadly grip on the country is stronger then ever.

We surely have a lot to learn from those guys.

Cam Bodia
01-16-07, 18:10
My wife and I have just returned from another fantastic trip to Phnom Penh. Whenever we go we always stay at the Intercontinental. We know there are less expensive places to stay but we feel the extra comfort and superb service more than makes up for the cost which is a very reasonable 70$ per night and they turn a blind eye to you taking girls back.

On this trip we went back to Le Cyrcee, which as usual was great, fantastic choice of girls, about 30 to choose from, all in the 7-10 range. The charge for short time is 10$ for the girl and they have rooms upstairs very clean. All the girls we had gave both of us oral, plus I had full sex with them while they performed oral on my wife. We find that in Cambodia the girls are a lot more willing to have a girl on girl scene than in Thailand, plus a lot cheaper.

We also went back to Sophies, which can be very off puting from the outside, but do venture up the stairs because its great once you get inside. Not as good decor as Cyrcee, but really good fun. We sat in the bar, the girls took turns giving us both samples of their oral skills. They charge $3 for a sample blow job and they licked my wifes pussy free. The other two guys in the bar seemed to appreciate the show as well.

We also got a driver to tale us to Tuol Kork, only 10 mins by car from centre. This area has certainly taken over from Svay Pak. The road must be a mile long with girls standing on both sides of the road, just cruise along slowly and if you see something you like ask your driver to pull over and then you negotiate the price, short time was $5 they do have their own rooms which are very dirty so we took the girl to a short time hotel on the same road which cost $6 very clean, we had three different girls from this area and were not dissapointed with any of them. I would recommend you try it, but get a driver to take you as lots of Cambodian guys also use this area. We also went to a great fishbowl bar during the day which opened at 2pm and had about 20 very beautiful girls, short time was $5 and the room was another $5 sorry I can't remember the name but I have got a card from this place so I will put its name and address on a future post.

All in all another great trip and we are already planning another visit the end of August so if your in sophies and see a girl getting her pussy licked and screaming in orgasm say Hello.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Phantomtiger2
01-16-07, 19:43
Yesterday evening went to Le Circee : three cute girls, everyone asking $30 for a short time. I wonder if I have "idiot" written on my face.

Not sure why they gave such a high price for ST, maybe they meant this rate for LT as I've been offered that before.
Normal ST rates (depending on which gal) should be $10-15 ST when I visited last month.


PT

Phantomtiger2
01-16-07, 19:49
.... she just would not give me doggy... maybe she was shy of showing her anus, or scared i would try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her anal? maybe the experts can share light. i sent her back, frustrated.



bbb

had this happen to me several times when i was in cambo (only happens in cambo and nowhere else). i did ask one of the papa about it and was told its not a position some of these gals are use to (maybe taught about missionary only)and also said it hurts them more in that position when some dicks are too big.


pt

MisterMax808
01-17-07, 02:38
Many of the riverside girls at "104" bar, etc. Are asking for $30 to $35 ST. Plus barfine. Many of the girls at the bars are asking for $20 ST.

Nearly all girls just do ST now. Just like Thailand. You can bargain hard, but the more you bargain her down, the quicker her fondness of you disappears! Heheheheheheeee!

New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. They are asking for $30 LT. You can negotiate to $20 LT. However, here is the scam. As soon as you get her back to your hotel, she will tell you "no sleep". No LT. You come, she go. You tell that was not the bargain between you & her pimp.

And she immediately starts crying. All the way through the BOom Boom period! Heheheheheeee! . What actresses? . But annoying nonetheless. But to cap everything off. Her Pimp is right downstairs your hotel lobby and calling her every 10 minutes to ask her when's she's finished! . During your Boom Boom and her crying, she is stopping to answer her pimp's cellular phone calls! . Anyway, she leaves quickly.

It's all so funny when you think about it. So long as you take everything with a grain of salt & humor. MAX!

NanaHawk
01-17-07, 07:10
New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. And she immediately starts crying. All the way through the BOom Boom period! Heheheheheeee! What actresses? But annoyng nonetheless. But to cap everything off. Her Pimp is right downstairs your hotel lobby and calling her every 10 minutes to ask her when's she's finished!I agree with you Max that you have to treat it all as a bit of a joke and not get too uptight about it. Negotiate down a little more and agree just for ST. Time it right and go and find some afters/dessert.

Where is Lucky Hotel, which street corners, I'm game to sample these Khmer beauties?

Qiao Han
01-17-07, 13:04
went back to Le Cyrcee, which as usual was great, fantastic choice of girls, about 30 to choose from, all in the 7-10 range. The charge for short time is 10$ for the girl and they have rooms upstairs very clean. All the girls we had gave both of us oral, plus I had full sex with them while they performed oral on my wife. What's that old expression - the family that plays together stays together or something like that? Makes marriage all seem worth it after all!

Phantomtiger2
01-17-07, 19:25
New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. They are asking for $30 LT. You can negotiate to $20 LT. However, here is the scam. As soon as you get her back to your hotel, she will tell you "no sleep". No LT. You come, she go. You tell that was not the bargain between you & her pimp.

!

Best way around this is the tried and proven way. Take unknown gals and negotiate for ST and agree on price. Then tell her (and the pimp) if you like her performance, you may consider LT (also agree on LT price).
Remember not to pay upfront until the actual deed is done.



PT

Traveler1234
01-17-07, 20:09
My wife and I have just returned from another fantastic trip to Phnom Penh. plus I had full sex with them while they performed oral on my wife. We find that in Cambodia the girls are a lot more willing to have a girl on girl scene than in Thailand, plus a lot cheaper.

We also went back to Sophies, they licked my wifes pussy free. The other two guys in the bar seemed to appreciate the show as well.

All in all another great trip and we are already planning another visit the end of August so if your in sophies and see a girl getting her pussy licked and screaming in orgasm say Hello.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Welcome to ISG, great post!

Not sure if this rates ROD but you should post before your next trip....am sure there'll be a line to sophies to take turns giving free DATY your lovely spouse :)

RLMAO

Sigui
01-18-07, 14:39
Anyone around on Saturday (afternoon onwards)? Will be arriving in town and fancy a trip to Tuol Kork but heard so many dodgy things about PP don't won't to go alone. Also up for trying Sophies, Le Cyree etc. later!

Sigui

MarkLatham
01-19-07, 01:18
Hey campers, haven't posted for a while and I see some horror stories here recently. Prices are a little higher than normal because of the busy season but the rip off stories are new to me.

I have been staying at my usual haunt which is chock a block with men from all over the world. When one sits out the front of the hotel at any time o0f day thr procession of beauties is awesome. And I have not heard one word of complaint from any barang man. On the contrary everyone is very, very happy.

I would suggest that some of you chaps are doing something wrong.

I have been here nearly two months now and my language skills are improving so I am now something of an insider and I know and like many of the girls from sharkeys, walkabout, shanghai etc.

The girls suffer from ripoffs as well by areshole men. I know a lovely sweet khmer girl from kompong cham who was in the movie city of ghosts-everyone should watch it. It is PP to T so to speak.

THis girl was in tears at the hotel yesterday because an arsehole italian paid her only 8000 riel long time, I gave her $20 so she could eat yesterday.

She also told us that a few months ago an areshole pom kept her for four days then stole her money and cell phone. When she told the walkabout manager or owner that she wanted to call the police he threatened that she would never work the walkabout again-classy eh?

By thje way this girl is one of the sweetest, most enthusiastic girls that I have met with a killer body.

Anyway back to the thread title-the brothel crawl.

We set off into the heart of darkness the other night, four of us and walked down rue pasteur towards the central market stopping firts at soho2 the blow job bar. Up the dirty stairs and knock on the door to be greeted by the site of sveral sweet viets dancing on the bar top. One was naked-unknown in PP really. A dollar tip ensures that the clothes come off, not bad value really.

There are two long bars with stools and curtains hanging beneath, the girls enter via tunnel. As my mate said viets and tunnels are the perfect match, they would crawl through there with the AK on their back, do the blow job and crawl back.

Then onto to sophies for my first time, I had been put off by some stuff on this board-disinformation by those who want to keep PP to themselves in my opinion. Up the grimy stair, knock on the door and bingo! Several real sweeties including one from kompong cham-always stunning. They were most persuasive and wanted ten dollars which is double the real price as far as I know. But the place has great ambience and some nice women. The KC girl stayed at opur hotel the other night.

My french friend michelle who has serious form in Thailand and cambodia rates sophies blow jobs as the best in the world. We wanted sophies t shirts but they donm't exist. Howver for $1. 80 one can get t shirts made over by the monument to one's own design. Sophies logo is a rabbit with a drink, we would change that to a carrot and put the obviuos slogan on the back, brief and to the point-I GOT SUCKED OFF AT SOPHIES.

The night went on, over the river to PPs best kept secret, the most beautiul bar in an old wooden house on the river opposite what pnom. The sunset is marvellous and the ambience is staggering, no food and take your own girl to experience heaven. However I cannot reveal it's location and no moto knows where it is. Then off to sharkeys, chockas with vietnamese, some stunners. They are asking for $30 but be patient and they will come around. Remember the old adage-in PP you never miss out, you just misss your turn.

Martinis was full of girls in the disco, the new happy man bar run by an ex sharkeys moto is jumping with some nice girls including a stunner from, yeah you guessed it-kompong cham.

Now I am back on line I have much more to report next time including the deaths of three barangs on motos last week and some nasty gun play at the heart.

MarkLatham
01-19-07, 01:36
Anyone around on Saturday (afternoon onwards)? Will be arriving in town and fancy a trip to Tuol Kork but heard so many dodgy things about PP don't won't to go alone. Also up for trying Sophies, Le Cyree etc. later!

SiguiI am in town mate but on saturday night I am taking out three women,one white chinese accountant,one brown kamong cham girl and one black as black and very tall girl from svay rieng.Eating and dancing and then who knows.I have hired sok, $25 for the night and gas-he is the cyclo in the movie city of ghosts,watch it to get a real feel for PP.

So the long and the short is I can't catch up but PM me and I will give you some good info including the two bars with the best women,the most expensive women.They ask for $40 to $50 but I believe that they are real top shelf.

This town has so much to offer that I have barely scratched the surace after two months.

Stay off the motos,three dead this week.There are no hospitals here,never forget that.

Gaudente
01-19-07, 05:01
Many of the riverside girls at "104" bar, etc. Are asking for $30 to $35 ST. Plus barfine. Many of the girls at the bars are asking for $20 ST.

Nearly all girls just do ST now. Just like Thailand. You can bargain hard, but the more you bargain her down, the quicker her fondness of you disappears! Heheheheheheeee!

New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. They are asking for $30 LT. You can negotiate to $20 LT. However, here is the scam. As soon as you get her back to your hotel, she will tell you "no sleep". No LT. You come, she go. You tell that was not the bargain between you & her pimp.

And she immediately starts crying. All the way through the BOom Boom period! Heheheheheeee! . What actresses? . But annoying nonetheless. But to cap everything off. Her Pimp is right downstairs your hotel lobby and calling her every 10 minutes to ask her when's she's finished! . During your Boom Boom and her crying, she is stopping to answer her pimp's cellular phone calls! . Anyway, she leaves quickly.

It's all so funny when you think about it. So long as you take everything with a grain of salt & humor. MAX!

I wonder where is the fun in being scammed 20$.Cambodians seems good only to whining and scamming. I strongly advice to avoid Cambodia as a mongering destination.

Gaudente
01-19-07, 05:15
Hey campers, haven't posted for a while and I see some horror stories here recently. Prices are a little higher than normal because of the busy season but the rip off stories are new to me.

I have been staying at my usual haunt which is chock a block with men from all over the world. When one sits out the front of the hotel at any time o0f day thr procession of beauties is awesome. And I have not heard one word of complaint from any barang man. On the contrary everyone is very, very happy.

I would suggest that some of you chaps are doing something wrong.

I have been here nearly two months now and my language skills are improving so I am now something of an insider and I know and like many of the girls from sharkeys, walkabout, shanghai etc.

The girls suffer from ripoffs as well by areshole men. I know a lovely sweet khmer girl from kompong cham who was in the movie city of ghosts-everyone should watch it. It is PP to T so to speak.

THis girl was in tears at the hotel yesterday because an arsehole italian paid her only 8000 riel long time, I gave her $20 so she could eat yesterday.

She also told us that a few months ago an areshole pom kept her for four days then stole her money and cell phone. When she told the walkabout manager or owner that she wanted to call the police he threatened that she would never work the walkabout again-classy eh?

By thje way this girl is one of the sweetest, most enthusiastic girls that I have met with a killer body.

Anyway back to the thread title-the brothel crawl.

We set off into the heart of darkness the other night, four of us and walked down rue pasteur towards the central market stopping firts at soho2 the blow job bar. Up the dirty stairs and knock on the door to be greeted by the site of sveral sweet viets dancing on the bar top. One was naked-unknown in PP really. A dollar tip ensures that the clothes come off, not bad value really.

There are two long bars with stools and curtains hanging beneath, the girls enter via tunnel. As my mate said viets and tunnels are the perfect match, they would crawl through there with the AK on their back, do the blow job and crawl back.

Then onto to sophies for my first time, I had been put off by some stuff on this board-disinformation by those who want to keep PP to themselves in my opinion. Up the grimy stair, knock on the door and bingo! Several real sweeties including one from kompong cham-always stunning. They were most persuasive and wanted ten dollars which is double the real price as far as I know. But the place has great ambience and some nice women. The KC girl stayed at opur hotel the other night.

My french friend michelle who has serious form in Thailand and cambodia rates sophies blow jobs as the best in the world. We wanted sophies t shirts but they donm't exist. Howver for $1. 80 one can get t shirts made over by the monument to one's own design. Sophies logo is a rabbit with a drink, we would change that to a carrot and put the obviuos slogan on the back, brief and to the point-I GOT SUCKED OFF AT SOPHIES.

The night went on, over the river to PPs best kept secret, the most beautiul bar in an old wooden house on the river opposite what pnom. The sunset is marvellous and the ambience is staggering, no food and take your own girl to experience heaven. However I cannot reveal it's location and no moto knows where it is. Then off to sharkeys, chockas with vietnamese, some stunners. They are asking for $30 but be patient and they will come around. Remember the old adage-in PP you never miss out, you just misss your turn.

Martinis was full of girls in the disco, the new happy man bar run by an ex sharkeys moto is jumping with some nice girls including a stunner from, yeah you guessed it-kompong cham.

Now I am back on line I have much more to report next time including the deaths of three barangs on motos last week and some nasty gun play at the heart.

This is pure misinformation, probably by some hotel or bar owner.
There is NOTHING AVAILABLE at Soho 2 ,apart two girls dancing DRESSED and NOT BARFINABLE. To call the Sophie girls "sweeties" someone must be seriously eye troubled, anyway at least they do smoke your dick (something most other girls will never do, or will do lousely).I renew my call to AVOID Cambodia.

Gaudente
01-19-07, 05:57
When I travel abroad, I always use my Bangkok Bank ATM card. It worked with most ATM machines, the circuit is PLUS. Can someone living in Phnom Penh confirm me there are ATM displaying the PLUS logo ?
I answer to myself here just to help others who might have my same doubt.
In PP there is now a decent supply of ATM machines, very few compared to Pattaya where there's one each 100meters, but enough to draw your money with reasonable comfort. Both Canadian Bank and ANZ Royal have their ATM machines. In Sorya Market building (it's a 6 story building near Central Market) there are 2 Canadian Bank ATM machines ,one on the ground floor and one on first floor, serving VISA and therefore also PLUS ATM cards (so if you have a Bangkok Bank ATM like me it does work in PP).
On the free PP map you should find in your hotel hall also all ANZ Royal ATM locations are marked with a small light blu diamond.They also serve VISA and PLUS circuits.
Now if just also the sex scene was easy as banking....

One Wing Low
01-19-07, 06:22
Sorry to say, but my first impressions were that those girls did not look like humans. However Cambodia is one of the best mongering place thanks to the aggressive Viet girls.

I would avoid Vietnam due to strong anti-prostitution policies that give rise to lots of scams, abuses, and drive up the price of pussies. It's not worth the time, money and hassle to hunt for pussies in Vietnam.


This is pure misinformation, probably by some hotel or bar owner.
There is NOTHING AVAILABLE at Soho 2 ,apart two girls dancing DRESSED and NOT BARFINABLE. To call the Sophie girls "sweeties" someone must be seriously eye troubled, anyway at least they do smoke your dick (something most other girls will never do, or will do lousely).I renew my call to AVOID Cambodia.

Opebo
01-19-07, 06:33
I used to go to Cambodia frequently, but stopped soon after K11 was closed. Nowadays it is a very mediocre destination, though certainly much better than Vietnam, which as OWL has pointed out, is a hassle and rip-off. He is also correct that if one does go to Cambodia, it is best to focus on the Vietnamese girls, who provide, generally, good service. For the most part the Kmers do not, and are also very condom-insistent.

Buko Max
01-19-07, 12:00
For the most part the Kmers do not, and are also very condom-insistent.Any responsible person in their right mind would insist on a condom in PP!

Phantomtiger2
01-19-07, 23:49
Aside from Africa, Cambo reported to have the next highest incidence of HIV, so odds are not in your favor for going bareback here.

Taking extra precaution should be the standard practice here.



PT

MarkLatham
01-20-07, 07:39
Yesterday evening went to Le Circee : three cute girls, everyone asking $30 for a short time. I wonder if I have "idiot" written on my face.Moved to Sharky, some cute girls there too, everyone asking $20 up for a short time.
What can I say ? Sometimes a good day of abstinence is healthy, and the pleasure of denying such stupid greed people your money far greater of the lousy services they provide.Maybe your name should be rodent not gaudente.

You must be doing something wrong bproh.

MarkLatham
01-20-07, 07:42
I used to go to Cambodia frequently, but stopped soon after K11 was closed. Nowadays it is a very mediocre destination, though certainly much better than Vietnam, which as OWL has pointed out, is a hassle and rip-off. He is also correct that if one does go to Cambodia, it is best to focus on the Vietnamese girls, who provide, generally, good service. For the most part the Kmers do not, and are also very condom-insistent.Khmers condom insistent?

Well I should fucking well hope so, bproh.Obviuosly they are better educated than you!

If you don't use condoms then you are a threat to all of us,khmer and barang.

Shame on you.

MarkLatham
01-20-07, 07:52
This is pure misinformation, probably by some hotel or bar owner.

There is NOTHING AVAILABLE at Soho 2 ,apart two girls dancing DRESSED and NOT BARFINABLE. To call the Sophie girls "sweeties" someone must be seriously eye troubled, anyway at least they do smoke your dick (something most other girls will never do, or will do lousely).I renew my call to AVOID Cambodia.Listen mate,I am just another barang here except that I spent the five months since my last visit learning khmer and it makes a huge difference.

I am barely fluent yet I have become something of an insider here in the last two months.I have helped many girls and one boy from the better known bars to go to school and learn english and computers.

I am starting to understand these people as I understand the thai having lived in bangkok in the dark ages and living with the ex and living with my thai born son for 25 years.My son has overcome his thai genes and is on his way to being a millionaire options trader.

The thai and the khmer are human beings just like us and should be treated as such,not purely as sex objects.When one behaves like a human being and treats others as human beings it is amazing how they respond.

I hope that you never come back to cambodia but if you do you can pm me and I will show you places that you would otherwise never see.

By the way the owner of soho 2 is a nice chap and a mine of information and yes for a dollar the girls will dance naked.

MarkLatham
01-20-07, 08:07
I keep forgetting to mention this little place that maost people are unaware of-the wonderfully named chip lay hotel. Get it?

It is such a good name that the name on the business card has been changed and the photo of the sign on the business card has been altered to the new name!
It is virtually next door to the walkabout and has the massage on level 5.

As one waits for the lift in the lobby there is a sign on the wall that says NO SEX!
There is a fishbowl with around twenty girls when me and my belgian mate visited one afternoon.The girls all seem keen and a few real sweeties give one the evil eye.My mate went back and dragged hiis mates out of the sad and sorry walkabout and they all had a crack.

It is $3 an hour for the massage and my mate got the BJ for $6 and claimed that it was all very nice.

I trust this guy as I had two khmer women that he recommended and they were indeed very nice.

So there you are another option just off street 51,if my very tall very black khmer girlfriend moves on then I shall give a personal road test report.

Niknoy
01-20-07, 13:13
I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.

Phantomtiger2
01-20-07, 19:47
Hey campers, haven't posted for a while and I see some horror stories here recently.
but the rip off stories are new to me.

.

Hey Mark,
Thought you a newbie by your # of post but guess you had another ISG name before?

Yeah, I could confirm ripoffs (as I posted some of those beware of ripoff cautions), but they all occurred at those St 63 brothels. I tested 5 places at random there and all 5 brothels stole my money---For the survey:I deliberately left a few dollars in my pant pockets as bait to see if there were rats in the house and sure enough when I left ,the money was gone. Bastards didnt even leave me a 2000r tip for my moto fare home--ha ha
I had done that random survey so I could write a detail report on such St 63 ripoffs but now a mood point as St 63 is in the shut down phases.

Too bad you didnt post earlier when I was still in PP. Could've hooked up for a beer and exchanged stories.
Maybe next time when I visit PP you can show me "those places that I might otherwise never see".

Cheers

PT

NanaHawk
01-20-07, 21:50
I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.Good luck to you Niknoy, from my experience a lot of the Vietnames girls are introduced to sex at an early age, and by the time they arrive on the Pay-For-Sex scene they are far from being virgins. I have found some exceptions to this but they are the exception.

Personally, I will always use a condom, and so feel that you are only putting yourself at risk, just do not be under mis-apprehension about the majority of the Vietnamese girls that find themselves in PP. If you are always paying some exhorbitant sum to ensure a virgin bed-partner then maybe my opinion would change but, in general, it does sound like a great big risk to not use a condom in PP.

NanaHawk
01-20-07, 22:07
I'm really interested to understand other people's viewpoint in relation to overpayment in Phnom Penh.

I have been visiting PP for a few years now and have become accostemed to the $10 ST and $20 LT framework of charges. Requested charges seem to have been increased in the last year or two and now seem to rival the salary achieved by top ministers of the country.

What do we think is causing this and what can we do to stop the charges rising still further?

On my last visit I was surprised to hear of a Belgian fellow who was buying $600 phone for a girl and was then going to visit her brother who had 'some financial problems'. As the Belgian had only been in the country for two days the money involved was fantastic in the extreme.

When I visited Golden Vine Bar the girls were asking for $40 / $50 LT and a bar fine of $10. This seems higher than the expected norm but may be becoming standard.

Am I alone in thinking that we should be trying to keep the rates down to a level commensurate with the average wage for the country?

What thoughts do the rest of you guys have?

Native Humper
01-20-07, 22:34
I first traveled to Cambodia in 1993 when the Khmere Rouge was on the way out and the United Nations troops were there. I have been told by locals that the presence of the UN troops is the reason for the escalation of the prostitution trade in PP at that time. I have returned 7 times since and I have seen many changes in the sex scene there and most of these changes have been positive.
I have seen some scams and some great deals every trip and this is what I would expect in any country. As the saying goes YMMV. Gaudante makes many comments stating that Cambodia should be avoided and I really do not understand his reason to say this. Yes you can get scammed in Cambodia the same as you can get scammed in any country. However to only point out the negative and ignore the positive does not make any sense to me. A report should also tell of the good finds as well and if it does not then it is only a biased and incomplete report.
If everything that Gaudante found in Cambodia was negative then I would wonder why this happened as the rest of us have all found so much positive in our visits.
JMHOP

Naughty
01-21-07, 03:06
I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.

Nik, new to the scene is no indication a girl is not infected. She may have lost her cherry to a carrier.

Also, no one has good enough eyes to see viruses. You oughta get a checkup and be more careful.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Gaudente
01-21-07, 06:27
Maybe your name should be rodent not gaudente.

You must be doing something wrong bproh.

The ones doing wrong are they. Why ask 30$ if the going rate is 10$ ? This way you lose the customer and earn no money.They rode, while I am "gaudens" here in Pattaya now with my girlfriends .Unless , of course, there are many fools ready to pay their scam prices.

Gaudente
01-21-07, 06:34
By the way the owner of soho 2 is a nice chap and a mine of information and yes for a dollar the girls will dance naked.
I wonder why they did not offer me the service. Perhaps I look too poor and they did not bother offering. PP with its [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) stinking walls , garbage obstructed and deep darkened roads is too classy for me, better I stay in Pattaya among other farang keenaw like me.

Phantomtiger2
01-21-07, 23:01
The ones doing wrong are they. Why ask 30$ if the going rate is 10$ ? This way you lose the customer and earn no money..


Although I do sympathize with your bad experiences and not having a better time while in Cambo, its just a fact in this whole country that they will try to extract as much money as possible from any monger. I have yet to be quoted the proper initial price , only after several minutes of haggling that a lower price will be accepted. This forum teaches all what the correct prices should be but its always up to the individual to negotiate it. Remember that this is SE Asia and the 1st price is never the true price.

But on the upside: once the mamasan or papa knows that you now know the correct price, you never have to hassle price again on a return visit to same place.

BTW: "Lose the customer"--they already know that most farangs are there only for Short visits in Cambo (few days on avg) so if they can get 3x the cost for your one visit then they are already ahead of the game as they dont need your return visit.

Hope you have better luck on your next trip.

PT

Phantomtiger2
01-21-07, 23:17
I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.


As you are a newbie, I sure hope you will not become a monger based solely on how she looks or "pretend" to be how new to the scene. Otherwise it may be a very disasterous future for you.
Remember, Cambo has one of the worst HIV infection rates in Asia and you cant SEE the virus just by looking.

Dont forget that their definition of "new" is very different from ours. I once picked a gal who said was very new, upon further questioning I found out new for her meant she was there under 1 month. Now being a cutie, how many guys do you suppose she had in under 30 days?



Just my thoughts


PT

Gaudente
01-22-07, 06:04
Remember that this is SE Asia and the 1st price is never the true price.

On Pattaya Beach Road (which is not exactly the Country Club)they quote the right price (500 baht for short time) up front. And if the girl says she smokes your dick, she will do it. Thais may be greedy sometimes, but most of the times they upkeep their word. It is really astonishing that a Thai yaba girl is more reliable and trustworthy then a Cambo girl, but that's what reality slapped on my face.
To my opinion Cambodian have been teached by NGO and western medias that whining (first thing a taxi driver wants you to visit are the Killing Fields, so that they can take profit from your pity and guilt complex) gets much more then providing services. Once this bad notion is put into daily practice, it's quite difficult to reverse it. We could only if we were allowed to beat them, but that's what corrupted NGO paid police is just waiting for , so they can jail you and extort money.
I really can't see any solution for Cambodia apart forgetting it.

Gaudente
01-22-07, 06:14
I'm really interested to understand other people's viewpoint in relation to overpayment in Phnom Penh.

I have been visiting PP for a few years now and have become accostemed to the $10 ST and $20 LT framework of charges. Requested charges seem to have been increased in the last year or two and now seem to rival the salary achieved by top ministers of the country.

What do we think is causing this and what can we do to stop the charges rising still further?

On my last visit I was surprised to hear of a Belgian fellow who was buying $600 phone for a girl and was then going to visit her brother who had 'some financial problems'. As the Belgian had only been in the country for two days the money involved was fantastic in the extreme.

When I visited Golden Vine Bar the girls were asking for $40 / $50 LT and a bar fine of $10. This seems higher than the expected norm but may be becoming standard.

Am I alone in thinking that we should be trying to keep the rates down to a level commensurate with the average wage for the country?

What thoughts do the rest of you guys have?

The same as yours. Unfortunately it seems that when people are on vacations they want to have fun no matter the cost.However I still wonder where is the fun in being conned by such low people (the Cambo), capable of betraying the word they gave just one minute before with absolute nonchalance.

MisterMax808
01-22-07, 08:17
Thanks to everyone for their contributions here. I just returned from my long anticipated trip to PP. It was a very interesting overall experience. Before going on my trip, I had read everything from his board as well as many others as well as the history of Cambodia over the past 200 years. My readings gave me the opportunity to understand more of the people and their habits in PP. As for BM, the girls were more beautiful than I had come to believe from my readings. While many girls were rural in looks, there was always a few who were outstanding, perhaps even better than most thais & filipino ladies.

I saw and shag some of the most beautiful Khmer & viet girls in PP. However, PP has a very dark side to it's history & overall feeling of the city. Sadly, I did not fall in love with PP as I did with Thailand or the Philippines. The people living in PP appear harsher and more sinister. The predatory acts are performed by locals upon locals. It's not a place to ever relax. You must be on your guard most times. PP does exist to serve a minority of foreigners who have found someone that fits their unique personalities. But PP is definitely not for all. I may never again visit PP, but for the purpose of this board, some of the Khmer & viet girls who live & work there are simply outstandingly beautiful! Lastly, it is very hard to fall in love with any girl from any country who lies so persistently & consistently. I found that lying was a deep cultural practice in these very beautiful woman. Thanks to All!

MarkLatham
01-22-07, 08:46
It has been interesting to read so many so so reports about Cambodia-personally I am for them if they keep people away.

Yahoo-more for us.

Rodent and others complain of rip offs,yeah well this is asia and we are talking of the sex trade-what a surprise- NOT!

Some of you guys should spend your free time at home learning to speak some khmer or thai. It pays off in spades, at least one should learn the numbers.

You know how it is,if you speak some then they think that you must be able to speak more and prices come down. I mean it is 5 bucks at the chicken farms - how much cheaper do you want it boys?

And if the price in PP goes to 30 bucks in the peak season so be it.

These girls have to survive the off season, you know.

What is wrong with free enterprise anyway-are you guys all communists?

Have you heard of supply and demand, it is basic economics.

I have been in phnom penh for many weeks this time and I can honestly say that I have not heard one complaint from a barang.

Every man that I speak to has had a damn good time, bar none.

And as for the whingeing about the street walkers who hang around the monument-I would never pick up a girl off the street in Australia or Cambodia.

Why would you with so many available, pretty women here.

Filipix
01-22-07, 12:32
Dear Surfers,

I like to know if dangerous to visit PP now.

I like to stay in PP 1 or 2 days only for fucking.

I read about Le Cyrcee, and Skarky and Martini.

Pls, send me information about this places and how much I pay normally for ST.

Thank's I wait.

Sorry for my bad english

Phantomtiger2
01-22-07, 19:51
Some of you guys should spend your free time at home learning to speak some khmer or thai. It pays off in spades, at least one should learn the numbers.

.


Anyone have a decent website that have learning the basic Cambo lingo for free. Did a basic google but nothing good came up.(some of the "free" sites were not free). I'm only interested if they have translating the words/phrases with sound. I could easily get all the written words but with language, I could never get the sound right.
May need it for my next trip.


PT

Phantomtiger2
01-22-07, 20:20
Thanks to everyone for their contributions here. I just returned from my long anticipated trip to PP. It was a very interesting overall experience. . Thanks to All!


No problem Max,
Be sure to find some time and write some of those experiences.

PT

Phantomtiger2
01-22-07, 20:27
On Pattaya Beach Road (which is not exactly the Country Club)they quote the right price (500 baht for short time) up front..


I'm a regular in Patts when I do my vacations to Asia. And not everyone I met in LOS gave me a proper price without negotiating at times. Yes, sometimes a few will quote correct prices but even in LOS its never like that all the time. A few even said 3000b ST? So even in LOS, they will try to get as much as they can, but again, if they know you know the correct prices they will back down. Even some of the popular MPs in BKK will try to rip you off with prices if they feel you are new there. So, it may not be as bad in LOS but price gouging still exist as this is SEA.

PT

Phantomtiger2
01-22-07, 22:49
Dear Surfers,

I like to know if dangerous to visit PP now.

I like to stay in PP 1 or 2 days only for fucking.

I read about Le Cyrcee, and Skarky and Martini.

Pls, send me information about this places and how much I pay normally for ST.

Thank's I wait.

Sorry for my bad english


No real dangers if you stay away from some rougher neighborhoods at nite, but since you only plan to be there 1-2 days?--too short a time to get to know city so best to take moto or taxi everywhere, especially at nite.

LeCyree and Sophies =mainly ST with on site rooms.

Sharky and Martini are usually places for LT pick ups (about $20)


PT

Filipix
01-23-07, 10:47
Thank's Phantomtiger2.

Yes, I have only 1 or 2 days to stay.

Short visit, but next visit will be longer, may be.

For LeCyrcee and Sophies how much ST?

And is possible to 'take away' ladies?

And other interestin bars for ST where in the city?

Thank's again, I wait,

Filipix

Denom
01-23-07, 12:45
I'd like to contribute my 2 cents to this thread.

Dunno why Circee quoted $30. When I was there in mid December I was quoted $15. Found out that better to get there early as later on the girls are tired and may not swamp you (which is a nice experience by itself).

Otherwise, I would agree that to call the Sophie girls "sweeties" is overdone. The girls were wearing so much make-up that I was wondering at one point if they were travestites. I did not find them attractive but then of course YMMV.

Prices are naturally overblown but can go down quickly when they see you know the real prices.

Hope I said enough of bad and good things to balance a bit the debate.

BangBangBang
01-23-07, 14:12
And as for the whingeing about the street walkers who hang around the monument-I would never pick up a girl off the street in Australia or Cambodia.

Why would you with so many available, pretty women here.Hi ML

Do you suggest that with so many women, fellow mongers should try meeting them for GF type relationships, or would you suggest pickup from the 'houses' or Disco/bars for ST or LT?

I have no experience with making GFs in Cambo (some folks call them freebees). Wondering if its easy as in China (with little to no strings attached) and what would the best hunting places would be?

For picking up locals, some of us may not have the time, patience, language skills, or even looks to do so :) Not to mention the desire for variety.

Also, has anyone scored in Cambo through the Internet, like dating sites, or Chatrooms? I tried to Meetic but did not get a single hit :(

Cheers,

BBB

Nautilus
01-23-07, 16:57
Hi,

Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. Why you think thats normal to pay 30 $ for a fuck. I can't understand this. I stayed 4 years in PTy, and a can speak Thai. Of course I have to spend money to. The girls fuck for money and nothing other.

Phantomtiger2
01-23-07, 19:32
Thank's Phantomtiger2.

Yes, I have only 1 or 2 days to stay.

Short visit, but next visit will be longer, may be.

For LeCyrcee and Sophies how much ST?

And is possible to 'take away' ladies?

And other interestin bars for ST where in the city?

Thank's again, I wait,

Filipix


Yes, gals can be taken out (about $35 LT I think-as I never took any LT from these places)

Sophie ST is $10 (no room charge) , LeCyree have $2 room charge


PT

Matt Navan Man
01-25-07, 00:13
Yes, gals can be taken out (about $35 LT I think-as I never took any LT from these places)



Interesting idea. Can someone please enquire as to what Cyrcee charges to take one of the girls out and for how long they'd stay out!

Much obliged.

Matt

Orleans
01-25-07, 01:54
Been unable to contact Flamingo Hotel. Does anyone have info on Big Luck Hotel and Paris hotel? Close to action, clean, safe?

Thanks

Azn Playa
01-25-07, 11:27
Interesting idea. Can someone please enquire as to what Cyrcee charges to take one of the girls out and for how long they'd stay out!

Much obliged.

Matt

The girls at Cyrcee told me $30 (+$7 to mama) = $37LT
They claimed it would be for as long as I wanted (eg until 3pm)
but it can depend on the girl (or the orders they are given by the mamasan).

For me this is too much money for these girls - they aren't worth it.
Same goes for $17ST (incl $2 for room) - too much for the quality of girls on offer
(there is rarely anything I want for that money esp. considering Sophie's is $10).

Paul3456
01-27-07, 17:44
Been unable to contact Flamingo Hotel. Does anyone have info on Big Luck Hotel and Paris hotel? Close to action, clean, safe?

ThanksBig Luck Hotel: http://bigluckhotel.com/

Flamingos Hotel: http://www.flamingos.com.kh/index.php

Paris Hotel: http://www.penhball.com/paris/

Too Jaded
01-28-07, 04:53
I arrived in PNH recently from BKK. Overall I am enjoying myself, but am disappointed by the Hotel Cambodiana. I originally tried to stay at Bougain-Villier, but they were full, and figured I "What the Hell" and decided to spring for opulence.

The outside of the hotel is, of course, beautiful, as is the lobby. The room they had available has a view of the river, available in room internet, et cetera, all for $120/night. A little steep, but I am on vacation and can afford it.

I checked into the room, and it is not bad, but it is NOT five star material. It uses the 1970's motel style lighting controls and fixtures. The bathroom is in no way luxurious.

The staff are however top notch, and the room service's 24 hour menu is not bad. Bed's are comfortable and the room is clean.

In room wireless internet is $15 for 24 hours but the staff taught me that if I log out of the login timer page then I am only charged for the minutes I used, so a 24 hour card could last, well, as long as it takes to surf the net for 24 hours.

$120 ++ is just too much for this room. I could get nearly the same for half at another place. Those who are not backpackers or budget travelers should book ahead.

2J

Sigui
01-28-07, 18:07
I am in town mate but on saturday night I am taking out three women,one white chinese accountant,one brown kamong cham girl and one black as black and very tall girl from svay rieng.Eating and dancing and then who knows.I have hired sok, $25 for the night and gas-he is the cyclo in the movie city of ghosts,watch it to get a real feel for PP.

So the long and the short is I can't catch up but PM me and I will give you some good info including the two bars with the best women,the most expensive women.They ask for $40 to $50 but I believe that they are real top shelf.Well, I didn't manage to log back into the forum in time to meet up with Mark but still managed to find Sophies. GOD! That place is amazing! Okay, you go up some dodgy looking flight of stairs and knock on a random door but once you're inside! It's definitely a great feeling to have a whole group of girls all rushing over to you, stroking your dick and then taking turns sucking on it! I chose one who was tall and skinny, checked she did anal (she'd already told me she did "cum in mouth"!) and headed to one of the bedrooms. Quick shower (she made me go first and then not look whilst she had a shower because she was shy! This from a girl who's just been sucking my dick and was wearing a miniskirt with no panties!) and then onto the bed. She must have got a lot of bj practice because it I had difficulty in avoiding cumming there and then but will power one the day and the little chap was soon trussed up in a plastic bag.

We tried a few positions and then I wanted to do anal. '30 dollars!' What? This wasn't part of the deal, a moment before she'd been proudly proclaiming that she'd do anal as part of the package and now was trying to up the rates mid-coitus. A quick no was all that was needed though and then we went straight in with no lube. I don't how they do it.

She gave quite a gf-type experience and sat with me whilst I finished my beer and showed me to the door. USD10 for the ST and a dollar for each of the girls who sucked me off earlier plus USD2 for the beer. Pretty good value and just an unbelievable experience!

Orleans
01-28-07, 18:35
Which is a better choice, Big Luck or Paris hotel for 4 nights in March?? Anyone has any personal experience? Have a better suggestion?

Thanks

MisterMax808
01-28-07, 19:21
Which is a better choice, Big Luck or Paris hotel for 4 nights in March?? Anyone has any personal experience? Have a better suggestion?

ThanksBig Luck is a great place to stay. I was there in January 2007. It is well located. The staff is helpful and courteous. The rooms are clean and nice. The breakfast is well done. There is an internet shop in the back of the hotel for cheap. There is a big grocery store across the street. The two main mongering places (ie. Martini's & the rest) are in opposite directions equal distance. Ask for Room 206. It was the best room with a view & jacuzzi! . Good luck!

Fiddler
01-29-07, 16:18
Big Luck is a great place to stay. I was there in January 2007. It is well located. The staff is helpful and courteous. The rooms are clean and nice. The breakfast is well done. There is an internet shop in the back of the hotel for cheap. There is a big grocery store across the street. The two main mongering places (ie. Martini's & the rest) are in opposite directions equal distance. Ask for Room 206. It was the best room with a view & jacuzzi! . Good luck!One question: In Cambodia can you normally bring girl in the hotel free (like in many places in Thailand)? Big Luck is guest-friendly?

Phantomtiger2
01-29-07, 20:07
One question: In Cambodia can you normally bring girl in the hotel free (like in many places in Thailand)? Big Luck is guest-friendly?


Most (90%) are, but not all places are gal friendly. I've come across a few Guesthouses that didnt allow unregistered ladies in. Most of these places also lock their doors early (by 11pm). Always best to check before paying for the nite.

Yes, Big Luck was GF last time I checked.



PT

Phantomtiger2
01-29-07, 20:13
The outside of the hotel is, of course, beautiful, as is the lobby. The room they had available has a view of the river, available in room internet, et cetera, all for $120/night. A little steep, but I am on vacation and can afford it.




$120 ++ is just too much for this room. I could get nearly the same for half at another place. Those who are not backpackers or budget travelers should book ahead.

2J

Dont know how you initially decided to book a $120/nite room for Cambo? I wouldnt do that unless I was on a honeymoon and then she better still be worth it.
Agree that spending that amount of money for a room in Cambo is way out of price for mongering purposes. Normally for the average monger in Cambo for A/C room with hot water it should be in the $20-40 range.(at least thats for me).


PT

Barri
01-29-07, 21:24
Big Luck is guest-friendly?Absolutely, Fiddler! I was there in December 2006: never any problem bringing a girl, and when the girl was leaving, the reception always called my room to check if it was alright for the girl to leave.

Close to action, good price and pool on the roof, too.

Have fun,
Barri

Prince Harry
01-30-07, 00:17
Hi,

Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. Why you think thats normal to pay 30 $ for a fuck. I can't understand this. I stayed 4 years in PTy, and a can speak Thai. Of course I have to spend money to. The girls fuck for money and nothing other.

Try living in phnom penh of $50 a month brother.
these working girls have phones,hair dressing and makeup expenses as well as needing nice clothes.
Then there is the cost of getting around,particularly late at night when prices go up.
They are often the sole bread winner for the family who can have medical expenses apart from luxuries like food and water.
You may speak thai brother but you still have the falang mindset,try actually living with or amongst thais and cambodians-it may turn you into a human being....

Orleans
01-30-07, 03:37
Thanks for the information everyone, Big Luck it is.

MisterMax808
01-30-07, 18:50
Orleans,

Big Luck Hotel will also pick up you at the airport for FREE! . You must simply arrange it with them in advance. Further, they have laundary service (possibly for free) if you negotiate with them in advance. The only bummer is that they do have a pool upstairs on the roof top, but you have to pay $2 to use it! I did put in a suggestion that they waive the $2 fee. It's just not consistent with their other hospitality services which are free of charge.

Phantomtiger2
01-30-07, 20:34
Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. .



Only a local born Cambo can live on $50/month, but then its living in a tin roof shack 8'x8'. I've been all around the countryside and I've seen it first hand.--IMO




PT

Dinghy
01-30-07, 21:02
Hi,

Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. Why you think thats normal to pay 30 $ for a fuck. I can't understand this. I stayed 4 years in PTy, and a can speak Thai. Of course I have to spend money to. The girls fuck for money and nothing other.

pom gor pood thai dai nit noi - khun pood pasa thai ti PP MAI DAI!! ( I could write it in Thai if anyone's interested - but it wouldn't show in this forum)

I also speak Thai a bit - YOU CAN'T SPEAK THAI in Cambodia (or PP) it does NO GOOD WHAT EVER - a FEW words may be comparable try this "moi bee bai.." that's 1, 2 3 in Khmer "neung song saam" - not even CLOSE! (yes, locals pay $1 or 2 for a screw - so what? - I don't mind $5, thogh

Cam Bodia
01-31-07, 01:02
Its a shame some people have not been happy with their experiences in pp.

My hubby and I have found 90% of the girls give a good honest service for very little money, compared to the last time we were in Thailand the rates in pattaya as far as I can remember were 500bt bar fine plus a minimum of 1500bt for short time.

Consequently sophies and cyrcee seemed a real bargain at only 10$ plus the girls don't seem to have any inhibitions about going with a girl which is great for me.

So don't be put of give pp a try and we might see you there.

Azn Playa
01-31-07, 14:37
Its a shame some people have not been happy with their experiences in pp.

My hubby and I have found 90% of the girls give a good honest service for very little money, compared to the last time we were in Thailand the rates in pattaya as far as I can remember were 500bt bar fine plus a minimum of 1500bt for short time.

Consequently sophies and cyrcee seemed a real bargain at only 10$ plus the girls don't seem to have any inhibitions about going with a girl which is great for me.

So don't be put of give pp a try and we might see you there.

'Cam Bodia' (interesting name - sounds like a marketing ploy for the country's Department of Tourism).
Your first post was a very interesting and enjoyable read,
almost in the same way that I used to enjoy reading Penthouse letters!
Any chance you have any pics of your ground breaking PP girl-on-girl action? I would applaud such a post which included graphic shots.

Sophies is technically $12 as there is a mandatory pre-fuck drink that the bar almost insists that you purchase. Cyrcee is $17ST and is bound to hit $20ST this year. A Cyrcee LT is approaching $40 which is NOT good value for these girls (if the owner got some really cute girls or some stunners then I could be tempted, but girls like that don't last long in a bar like Cyrcee).

Pattaya beer-bar barfines are around 200B. These girls will go LT for 1000B.
Freelancers are hard to find these days with the police presence on the beach, but there will inevitably be another easy way to get a quick fix of Thai meat for the all inclusive price of 500B.

Yes, a jaw-dropping uber-babe gogo dancer from walking street might hit you up for 1500ST +500bf. This is common around Christmas/New Years. Go back in June/July and see how much cheaper these same girls are. LT is much more readily agreed upon too. These girls have possibly the best bodies of any asian hookers and will happily dance naked in front of you while you relax with a beer. Hard to find that anywhere else!

Opebo
01-31-07, 15:35
Freelancers are hard to find these days with the police presence on the beach, but there will inevitably be another easy way to get a quick fix of Thai meat for the all inclusive price of 500B.

Please post directions if you ever find such a way, Azn. So far in several visits since the crackdown I have not found a worthy replacement for what has been lost on the beach.

As for Phnom Penh, I always found it a fairly expensive destination - hotels being around $15, and girls not very easy to find now that K11 is gone. The biggest price increase over Thailand however is the food.

Too Jaded
01-31-07, 16:25
Agree that spending that amount of money for a room in Cambo is way out of price for mongering purposes. Normally for the average monger in Cambo for A/C room with hot water it should be in the $20-40 range.(at least thats for me).
PT

PT,

I didn't decide, I made no reservation and found PNH to be more popular than to be expected. I kind of said fuck it and just went with what was open, looked to be of good quality (I am not a budget traveler), and had in-room internet.

I was not in Cambo for mongering, actually. I just came from the LOS so coming to Cambo strictly for poon would be illogical. Plus I think I broke my cock during my final week, I've had almost zero libido for the last few days! God bless those Thai spinners!

My primary purpose was local PNH tourism (I shot a rocket launcher, tossed some grenades, and went to S-21), and also went to Siem Riep.

I did hit one Khmer gal though and would repeat the experience. I like the skin color and that straight pussy hair just made me want to go yum yum on her. Unfortunately the place was very run down and the girl was not in her best mood (and looked badly bruised from being beaten by her pimp, which I am not down with), so it could have been better, but I could sense that the opportunities are there and the khmer girls have multiple qualities I find appealing.

On a side note, I hired driver Sovan Mee who was an asset and a friend. I recommend him for any newbies or folks who want to have a loyal ride and guide.

2J

Johnny Drama
01-31-07, 20:09
Too Jaded,
Please elaborate on tossing grenades and firing a rocket launcher please. I've always wanted to do this, and almost had the chance in the Czech Republic, but the place was closed on the day I went. I would seriously consider canceling my trip to Hua Hin Thailand in March for pussy and guns in Cambodia. If you could give me an idea where the places are located, and what the costs were, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Drama

Phantomtiger2
01-31-07, 20:18
Too Jaded,
Please elaborate on tossing grenades and firing a rocket launcher please. I've always wanted to do this, and almost had the chance in the Czech Republic, but the place was closed on the day I went. I would seriously consider canceling my trip to Hua Hin Thailand in March for pussy and guns in Cambodia. If you could give me an idea where the places are located, and what the costs were, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Drama

There are places just outside of PP city limits that you can "rent" guns of all sorts, pistols up to full auto machine guns. You pay for the bullets you use which adds up very quickly on full automatic. Rockets and grenades are also available but cost much more. Dont know about rocket cost but tossing a grenade cost me $10.
All taxi drivers know the locations as they speak some english, but motodops may not fully understand so speak to an ex-pat or hotel clerk to recommend a motodop for you.
But between the 2, I would prefer pussy over the guns and bombs.--IMO


PT

Johnny Drama
01-31-07, 21:15
PT,
Yeah, I can't really decide on what to do... I've been to Thailand a few times, so thought I'd try Hua Hin in March since it hasn't been overthrown with tourists and the Sheraton's new 5 star property opens a few days before I arrive. I am tempted, though, by the prices and amount of women dancing around PP on any given day. I know I can get decent accomodations for $40-50 a night, and plenty of girls, but I'm still undecided. Have you mongered much in Thailand, and if so, whats your comparison with Cambodia? Do you find the girls are more GFE in Cambodia? I'd really appreciate your thoughts

Thanks

Drama

Member #4351
01-31-07, 22:46
When I went to the range, they told me they´d throw in a skinny cow to blow up with the grenade launcher for another couple of hundred bucks. Supposed to be popular with the Japanese tourists.

NanaHawk
01-31-07, 23:25
The official government line on the cow thing is that they really frown on this activity. Supposedly, they have closed down all of the shooting ranges but they are still in open operation near to the airport (run by the army!!).

I seem to recall that the rocket launcher was $400 and they drive you to some more secluded spot. This was quite a relief, when I heard, as it didn't seem like the sort of activity to be taking place so close to the international airport.

The grenade throwing, at the site near the airport, involved throwing the grenade into a large pond, and so it lost some of its appeal.

Running up a large bill through using gun set to automatic hasn't been an issue when I've been there as they give you a magazine containing the number of rounds you want to purchase. A dozen rounds in an AK47 set to automatic was enough for me to realise that I wasn't cut out to be a soldier and that my ears and shoulder are made of schoolboy-like material.

The AK47 and M16 are things that I do not think I would get to try anywhere else in the world but even the revolver and shotgun are things that I could not achieve easily here in the UK. I'd suggest it as somewhere experience and it is just another of those things to act as an interlude from mongering. (Probably sacrilege suggesting that anyone might want a break from mongering but there you go!!)

Phantomtiger2
01-31-07, 23:29
When I went to the range, they told me they´d throw in a skinny cow to blow up with the grenade launcher for another couple of hundred bucks. Supposed to be popular with the Japanese tourists.


Hey David,
When I went, a cow wasn't offered for target practice but pretty much everything else was. I guess steak wasn't on the menu that nite--ha ha


Cheers

PT

Phantomtiger2
01-31-07, 23:45
PT,
Yeah, I can't really decide on what to do... I've been to Thailand a few times, so thought I'd try Hua Hin in March since it hasn't been overthrown with tourists and the Sheraton's new 5 star property opens a few days before I arrive. I am tempted, though, by the prices and amount of women dancing around PP on any given day. I know I can get decent accomodations for $40-50 a night, and plenty of girls, but I'm still undecided. Have you mongered much in Thailand, and if so, whats your comparison with Cambodia? Do you find the girls are more GFE in Cambodia? I'd really appreciate your thoughts

Thanks

Drama

Yup, LOS was my primary mongering location followed by Singapore. I only recently "discovered" Cambo last year and spent 3.5 weeks there (mid Nov-Dec). I had an ok time in Cambo but for comparison, I'd say the women in LOS are more GFE (this of course is a general thought as you will come across a few that breaks the rules--but that happens everywhere).--IMO
The only "true" GFE I had while in Cambo was the BJ/sex bars in PP, at Sophie, LeCyree, Mikado etc. as the management makes "sure" you are king.
As I said, this is just a general observation as you could come across some that will treat you right and this theory goes out the window.


BTW: there are way more women available for P4P in LOS than in Cambodia. The total number of WL I'd come across all over Cambo that I'd visited dont even come close to 1/4 of the WL just in Pattaya alone.

Cheers.

PT

Paul3456
02-01-07, 01:05
PT,

Yeah, I can't really decide on what to do... I've been to Thailand a few times, so thought I'd try Hua Hin in MarchI spent 12 days in Hua Hin in February 2005. It was about 7-8 days too many. Hua Hin is very quiet and unless you are big golfer I think you will be bored rather quickly. The nightlife is limited to one main street and some side streets, and the quality of the bargirls was extremely poor, IMHO. It is rather upscale (the King has a home there that he uses regularly) and you don't see the total scumbag tourists that you find in Pattaya, but the nightlife is very limited.

Phantomtiger2
02-01-07, 19:49
Wow - I've been to PP countless times and have never done that (probably never will either).
Hope you don't think that this is all PP has to offer!


The gun/rocket/grenade thing wears off quickly--especially after they hand you the bill (like I said, firing machine guns on full auto and tossing a few grenades adds up to a huge bill), but fun if you never tried it before.

BTW: still alot of illegal (or legal?) gun dealing in PP. I was on motodop on the other side of the river and going toward the south side of PP when he diverted off to a side street where another man tried to sell me his AK-47 assault rifle and 2 full ammo clips. He also said it was ok for me test fire the weapon (in the middle of the street?). I declined of course. So guns still abound in PP, so be careful out there.




PT

Dinghy
02-01-07, 22:59
The gun/rocket/grenade thing wears off quickly--especially after they hand you the bill (like I said, firing machine guns on full auto and tossing a few grenades adds up to a huge bill), but fun if you never tried it before.

BTW: still alot of illegal (or legal?) gun dealing in PP. I was on motodop on the other side of the river and going toward the south side of PP when he diverted off to a side street where another man tried to sell me his AK-47 assault rifle and 2 full ammo clips. He also said it was ok for me test fire the weapon (in the middle of the street?). I declined of course. So guns still abound in PP, so be careful out there.

PT

Yeah - $200 IIRC to blast an unsuspecting cow with an RPG - make instant hamburger. IIRC $1/ round of anything up to .45 cal (might be fun to play gangster and shoot a tommygun, though..nah.). Waste of good meat after the RPG - too much schrapnel (sort of like a VERY one-sided bullfight - the cow is teathered - great sport for 20 somethings). A guy could go broke shooting all the firepower available - BUT - some of us have had our fill of the "real thing" (and no special desire to go "do it again") M1A1 carbine, M-79, M-60, M-16, M-14, M-60 tank 105MM, M-1914... except for the tank, all "small arms"...

"GUNNER! FIRE MISSION - azimuth...Depression... "ON THE WAY!" been there, done that...

Prince Harry
02-02-07, 01:11
My mate paul asked for the chicken and for $15 they produced the duck and put him down the far end of the range.
A few shots from the AK had the duck dancing and then one beneath him blew him two meters into the air.
All good fun really,except for the duck....

Phantomtiger2
02-02-07, 01:12
. IIRC $1/ round of anything up to .45 cal ...



$1 a bullet sounds about right and toss in $10/grenade and the steep bill should be hung out and shot as target practice.
Yup, much cheaper just to join the army and get all the weapons free of charge----IMO


Cheers


PT

Phantomtiger2
02-02-07, 01:19
My mate paul asked for the chicken and for $15 they produced the duck and put him down the far end of the range.
A few shots from the AK had the duck dancing and then one beneath him blew him two meters into the air.
All good fun really,except for the duck....


Damn good shooting-especially if the duck was a moving target.
I've seen tourist shooting AK's and couldnt hit a 5x5 foot board just 20 feet away.
BTW: did they at least offer to cook the duck--

Cheers


PT

Vittu
02-02-07, 03:47
For a description of the scene read Amit Gilboan's "Off the Rails in Phnom Penh: Into the Dark Heart of Guns, Girls and Ganja." Should be available in the region.
I bought a copy through Amazon in the U.S. in 1998 for $18. I now see a paperback copy offered for $47 by Amazon. The book is not so great but offers a few insights into the Cambo society.

Shamas
02-02-07, 10:41
Hi all
I woul like to have some business from you guys.
Hopefully someone will employ me this week.
Cheers

I used SovanMee and I can and will state he is an excellent guide, trustworthy, loyal and all the good stuff that makes a big difference to us.

Use him, you'll like him

If you PM him, he'll send his phone #. Airport pick up is available.

Shamas O'Dognasty

Prince Harry
02-02-07, 10:48
For a description of the scene read Amit Gilboan's "Off the Rails in Phnom Penh: Into the Dark Heart of Guns, Girls and Ganja." Should be available in the region.
I bought a copy through Amazon in the U.S. in 1998 for $18. I now see a paperback copy offered for $47 by Amazon. The book is not so great but offers a few insights into the Cambo society.

Wow $47!
The book is still available here for three or four dollars.....

Too Jaded
02-02-07, 13:49
Wow - I've been to PP countless times and have never done that (probably never will either).
Hope you don't think that this is all PP has to offer!

No, that is not what I meant to say. But as they say 'to each, his own". PNH does not offer the type of mongering experience I typically seek, but for other adventurers it is perfect.

Nothing is absolute, and everyone has their own preference. I for one prefer BKK, MNL, or DXB for mongering (I must caveat that with the statement that I did not sample much in PNH, so perhaps I missed out). Others like the exotic experience of PNH or Vietnam.

My primary purpose for visiting Cambodia was not for rocket launchers, it was actually more cultural vis a vis the ethnic lifestyle and history, particularly around Siem Reap. Next time I am in the neighborhood I will spend more than four days, and try and sample more while I am there.

2J

Qiao Han
02-03-07, 14:07
First time in Phnom Penh, had a great time, 4 girls in 3 days. First girl I met at Mikado club, a little chubby but horny as hell all the way. Good BBBJ, but a little afraid I would cum in her mouth (I did) so she kind of tried to point didi away from her. She enjoyed DATY, doggie, mish, but no kissing. Her name was Linda from Kompon Cham, about 20 yo. Great rooms upstairs, soft warm lighting and mirrors all around and above. You can rent a room all night for $8. ST 15, LT 30.

Also went to Cyrcees, I didn’t think the girls were more beautiful than Mikado, and had to wait for a room. The way it works with these high turnover bonk bars is you walk in and sit down, and the really cute girls refuse to make eye contact unless you’re a regular (well I am 58 and bald) so a fat girl sat down next to me and immediately tried to get me upstairs with “I do anything for you I take care of you anything you want yum yum boom boom etc etc. Eventually a beautiful tall blonde came over and suggested a 3 some. I should have stood my ground and went with just the blonde, but upstairs we 3 went. Turns out the fat girl wouldn’t do yum yum or DATY, so I turned my attention to the blonde. It seems that the function of the 2nd girl is to get you to come right away and out the door. It was hilarious, I was fucking the blonde and the other girl was behind me pushing my hips up and down into the blonde trying to get me to come, but of course it had just the opposite effect and I took my time waiting for the blonde to come. Finally I just ignored the other girl and thought about the excellent BBBJ the blonde was giving me, with great suction. I tried to warn her I was coming but got caught up in the moment and couldn't get the words out. But I jerked it away from her just in time and she thanked me for not CIM. Spent some time downstairs talking to the blonde, she is from Siem Riep, and offered to show me her hometown next time I’m in Cambodia. $15 to each girl but then they ask for $5 tip by reflex. I reached inside my pocket for $5 and by the time I swung around to give it to the blonde, she was already humping some other guy’s knee. Well if this is how fast they turn you around, I can imagine what Sophie’s is like, so I passed on that. Had a good time at Cyrcees but feel that I got stuck paying for a girl I didn't want, just to get the girl I did want.

The other girl I met at DV8 definitely a different experience, she said boom boom OK but didn’t seem really interested, so I changed my mind and we just cuddled all night, nice GFE. Vietnamese and the only word she knew in English was “tip”. Sorry honey, no yum yum no boom boom no $10 tip. But she thanked me anyway for $5 tip.

I was quite impressed with the city, everything is so cheap. I stayed at the Chi Cha hotel on 110th st next to the Happy Man biker bar. $4 a room with an attached bathroom with squat toilet, cold water shower. View of the Mekong river from the balcony next to my room. Full Indian lunch or dinner downstairs for $2 with all the rice and homemade chapati bread you can eat.

European style bistros, restaurants and cafes, French colonial architecture, even the street signs are in French and Khmer, as this was all part of French Indochina. I think the riverside is the most pleasant place to stay, you’re closest to the best food, bars, the river. No street lights, but I never felt nervous walking around at night. Of course I stayed around the tourist zones and didn’t stumble around drunk at 2am, not a good idea in any city.

Cambodia is a great place for a vacation and looking forward to spending some more time there but dollar for dollar I still think Thailand has the best girl experience. Just my POV.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

NanaHawk
02-03-07, 20:31
......... Turns out the fat girl wouldn’t do yum yum or DATY, so I turned my attention to the blonde...................It is commendable that you worry about the pleasure your lady is experiencing but I really would suggest that the likes of Sophie and Le Cyrcee are not the place to be the gentleman; they are both quick turnover brothels , though I do accept that there are sometimes some nice 'new' girls in Le Cyrcee.

My opinion of Le Cyrcee was lowered when I started getting friendly with a girl a while ago. While I was touching her underneath her skirt I was surprised to feel her getting wet so soon. I was more than a little shocked to find my fingers covered in blood as she was working there while having her period.

Basic standards of hygeine do not exist here and so be very careful if you feel you must do the old DATY. I am sure that all of our experiences of bars are different but pass on mine of this bar as a small warning.

Phantomtiger2
02-05-07, 23:04
. $15 to each girl but then they ask for $5 tip by reflex. I reached inside my pocket for $5 and by the time I swung around to give it to the blonde, she was already humping some other guy’s knee. Well if this is how fast they turn you around, I can imagine what Sophie’s is like, so I passed on that. Had a good time at Cyrcees but feel that I got stuck paying for a girl I didn't want, just to get the girl I did want.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.First I like to welcome you to the ISG forum. Enjoyed your post and must say you did well as the prices you paid as a newbie was spot on and didnt get ripped off like most newbies. I suspect you did some research here before going to PP?

Only could comment on that you did not need to hire a gal you didnt want just to get one that you desire, it don't work that way. Simply walk or call over to the one you desire. LeCyree is a "business" thats set to please the customer (dont matter if you're older or bald) just have $ ready as no one here have turned down a customer. But its good you brought it up as now you'll know what to do on your return visit.
Enjoy.

Cheers

PT

Fast Eddie 48
02-06-07, 17:58
Wow $47!
The book is still available here for three or four dollars.....To Vittu,

Most of this book is out dated and useless PP have change alot the last ten yr and you can pick up this book cheap in Bangkok under 400 bht, you get more info here on ISG.

Fast Eddie 48

Azn Playa
02-07-07, 14:28
Yet again you have missed the point of someone's post.

Any monger that visits PP (or plans to) should read Off The Rails... - a humourous and entertaining book.

The writer never imagined it would remain current for long or intended it to be used as a PP monger's guide anyway.

Qiao Han
02-07-07, 16:31
I suspect you did some research here before going to PP?
Only could comment on that you did not need to hire a gal you didnt want just to get one that you desire, it don't work that way. Simply walk or call over to the one you desire.PTThanks to you and everyone in this thread for all the information, everything went just as expected after RTFF - from the airport to the best nightlife spots, the prices, and you're right, I should have insisted on just the girl I wanted. Guess I'm a sucker for the smile, the "you're so handsome sir" etc, these girls are really pros. But I’d still like to send all the Khmer girls to LOS and have the girls there teach them about CIM. Seems the Thai girls already understand “don’t worry honey I promise I won’t come in your mouth” is the biggest lie ever perpetrated, and by now they’ve learned to just kinda shrug and resign themselves to the inevitable.

Definitely going back to PNH first week in May, maybe this time I'll make it to S'ville like I originally planned.

Phantomtiger2
02-08-07, 18:40
to send all the Khmer girls to LOS and have the girls there teach them about CIM.

Definitely going back to PNH first week in May, maybe this time I'll make it to S'ville like I originally planned.QH,

Glad you benefited from all we have done as that is the true value of ISG.--
Just to give you a heads up: PP BJ bars are the exception as once you leave PP, its a bit harder to find gals willing to even give BJ, let alone CIM. Definitely much more starfishes and deadfish here than in LOS. But cheap enough to do a few to find out which have skills to your fancy and just go back to those that pleased you most.

Will wait for your reports on Snooky.

Have fun in May.

Cheers

PT

Loso69
02-08-07, 20:10
The original posts by Silly Puppy were deleted by Jackson. Quotes of his posts were edited out as well.

Biffy
02-08-07, 22:17
The statistics assume we're totally random when we choose girls.

This is absolutely not the case.

Phantomtiger2
02-08-07, 22:59
Did I miss something?

I go away for a little while and all of a sudden I'm a criminal?

Very difficult to tell in Cambo as the viets with some sort of IDs (not all of them have IDs as many are illegally in Cambo) but all who had IDs were ok in age (cant read them but my driver could and desk clerk) so most I took back to my hotel were legit (not sure if IDs were real or fake as I can't tell anyway).

Only ones in doubt were at the chicken farms as absolutely no one had an ID (young or old) but all the ones I asked said they were at least 19. As far as I'm concern, I'm not guilty.

Cheers,

PT

Niknoy
02-08-07, 23:43
i go to cambodia on a regular basis, and can say that i've never seen a child prostitute in cambodia, i know about svay pak, but never went there, but i do know svay pak is closed and there's no ****d girls there.

NanaHawk
02-09-07, 08:11
all was quiet on the board and then the cat is thrown amonst the pigeons.

in order for the conclusions to be valid the facts need to be taken to a lower level. by this i mean that you need to distinguish between 'tourist brothels' and 'locals brothels'. it is a generally accepted fact that the locals brothels contain a far higher proportion of indentured and **** girls; as we, on this board, would not even be able to find most of these the chances of encountering **** girls is greatly diminished.

when we do choose girls we use our discretion as to who we select and so even if there are **** girls working in tourist brothel, most of us would leave them alone.

there is always a chance that one of us has taken an **** girl as it is accepted that asian ladies always look younger than western equivalents and ids can be faked very easily.

when the above is taken into account does it make you a paedophile for taking a girl who 'tricks' you into believing that she is older than she really is? by not visiting locals brothel and always asking for a girls age, when there is any doubt, surely we are being reasonable in our actions.

i, for one, know that i have refused taking girls for a year as i have doubts about her age (one, in particular, will be looked at again when i visit in may). i also know of girls who have been around for a few years who are still claiming to be 18. the ids are not legible by the majority and, you can be sure, that a girl's friends will support her claims of whatever age she wants to be that day.

bottom line is that we must all be careful and take whatever steps we can to stay within the law. if we do this then we can refute the sort of allegations that started this discussion and take our holidays without having to lie about our destination!

Phantomtiger2
02-09-07, 22:45
The original posts by Silly Puppy were deleted by Jackson. Quotes of his posts were edited out as well.Wiped clean by the hands of God = (Jackson)

Well, looks like I didn't miss anything afterall.

PT

Cam Bodia
02-12-07, 04:18
the **** girl reports about cambodia on other forums are greatly exagerated,

we have been several times now and as a female can honestly say i have not seen any **** girls in any of the bars we frequent.

i get really annoyed by people thinking that the place is full of paedophiles which anbody who has actually been can see it isn't.

as for the argument of girls selling themselves being used by men i hate to break it to you guys its more like the other way round most of them try to do as little as possible for as much money as possible,

and yes guys i've had the looks which i'm sure you've all had from fat european women probably even worse, as we go back to our hotel with a beautiful girl sat between my hubby and i, but hubby does seem to enjoy the looks from their husbands (envy).

Cambo Lover
02-12-07, 20:45
Niknoy,

If you a regular visitor of PP then or you blind or you stay all day in your hotel.

Cambo Lover
02-12-07, 20:56
How can I contact you?

I am coming over soon and my old driver isn't pickup his phone.

Phantomtiger2
02-13-07, 03:40
How can I contact you?

I am coming over soon and my old driver isn't pickup his phone.

Hi Cambo Lover,
Ask and thou shall receive.

Sovan Mee, as taxi driver in PP. I would like to request some business from you guys.

Please fell free to call me at: 012 428 007

Cheers


PT

Derim
02-15-07, 15:29
I was able to get a threesome for $10 to each girl after a very short negotiation, gave each a $1 tip because I was satisfied with the service.

Afterwards, one of the girls said that she was leaving home since she already got a customer (me). Obviously, she was fully satisfied with $11 she received from me and did not want to do any more work that night. Think twice before paying $20 ($15 + $5 tip) per girl :)

To put prices in perspective: I visited Martini and asked out of curiosity how much a cute 20yo. would charge for the whole night. At first she quoted $25 but later she admitted that she would go for $20.

Barri
02-16-07, 00:28
To put prices in perspectiveDerim, really great reports from both PP and Siam Reap! But to put prices in perspective: Are you a 25 yo hunk or a 50+ fat guy? ;)

Phantomtiger2
02-16-07, 18:48
Derim, really great reports from both PP and Siam Reap! But to put prices in perspective: Are you a 25 yo hunk or a 50+ fat guy? ;)

Barri,
It does not matter if the monger is 25y/o or 50y/o (unless you look like Jabba the Hut and built like that monster--then no gals will have them even for $100 bucks)
The prices Derim posted are more or less correct as these were in line with what I would and have paid myself. Of course there will always be a slight variations as some gals may demand $2-3 more (because they know they can) but never by much. Its when people pay $10-20 more then what I had posted or recommended that I start scratching my head and wonder what happened.
Ex: Derim was spot on and obviously read my previous posts about the 3 massage brothels near the Temple Villa in SR, they will always try to tell you FS for $15-maybe $20, but as I had warned, correct price for FS is $10 only at those places and thats what Derim got.

I always post only the prices I paid myself and if its within range (+/- a few bucks) then thats the correct amount.

Cheers


PT

Derim
02-17-07, 18:08
Derim, really great reports from both PP and Siam Reap! But to put prices in perspective: Are you a 25 yo hunk or a 50+ fat guy? ;)Somewhere between :) But it doesn't matter, girls want to make money and even in the high season it seems that the supply is much higher than demand. Thus for the most girls it's either $10-15ST/$20-25LT or $0 for sitting/sleeping alone, it's not suprising that most girls will choose the first alternative. Of course they try to get high price if possible, but they quickly agree to a going rate. You can see same behaviour in the market: tourist will be initially quoted 2-3x price for t-shirts, souvenirs etc.

It think that I was able to get good prices for following reasons:

- I learned a few words of Khmer, not much just basic words like "hello", "how much" and numbers

- I knew prices from earlier reports and sometimes I didn't even ask "how much", I just offered my price

- I told usually that I have been many times in Cambodia. Once I made a mistake and told a girl in New York hotel massage that I was for a first time in Cambodia, and she quoted me $30 for boom boom on top of $5 massage! LOL! Then I said that I just wanted a massage, and pretended to be disinterested, in about 10-15 minutes she agreed to $10 which was much reasonable.

I think it's important to give impression that you know the prices and you aren't a newbie tourist, it will save lot of time and hassle. This also applies to other countries and other bargaining situations (not just P4P).

Niknoy
02-18-07, 02:36
Niknoy,

If you a regular visitor of PP then or you blind or you stay all day in your hotel.Well cambo lover, if you found it, you must of been looking for it, need I say more.

NanaHawk
02-18-07, 09:16
Well cambo lover, if you found it, you must of been looking for it, need I say more.Come on Guys, don't let this forum turn into a slanging centre. We all have different points of view and have had different experiences.

It's very easy to make cheap shots at each other but I have seen other boards fall by the wayside because of such actions. Accept what others have to say and think of everything as if it was said in conversation while having a beer.

I know that I could be called a f*****ing C*** while having a beer, with no offence taken, but would take umbrage if someone said so in a formal letter.

This is a great place to share experiences so let's use it for that and not get so personal. Please.

AncntFornicatr
02-19-07, 05:21
Will be arriving in Phnom Phen on Tuesday morning and will be staying at the Paragon by the river as California 2 is full until 26th.

Anybody familiar with this hotel and where it is for mongering?

Hotels are filled up with Chinese New year although I thought it would be over by Tuesday and back to normal.

Jack

Muleface
02-19-07, 14:12
Hey guys,

I'll be at the Imperial Gardens hotwl for a week next month.

Do any of you guys know it's GF, or if the NGO crowd is there?

Thanks in advance

Primmage1
02-20-07, 19:08
Hello,

I have heard good things about Sovan Mee. I would like to add another driver to the list. His name is Mr. Ben Wee. He has car with ac and cell phone. He charges 25 a day and speaks good English. I have used him many times and consider him a friend. Please help him if you can. PH. [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. If I cab fugyre it out you can PM me for his email address.

Thanks

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Niknoy
02-20-07, 22:31
Will be arriving in Phnom Phen on Tuesday morning and will be staying at the Paragon by the river as California 2 is full until 26th.

Anybody familiar with this hotel and where it is for mongering?

Hotels are filled up with Chinese New year although I thought it would be over by Tuesday and back to normal.

JackThe Califoria2 is a nice Hotel, always full up, the first time i was in there the children beggers came inside the bar, i looked at one of the bar servers, thingking they would tell the begger to go away, but did not, so i stayed chatting to a little girl, who I ended up buying a can of drink for and bought a little gift from her that i didnt need, just to pass the time.

Niknoy
02-20-07, 22:35
Hey guys,

I'll be at the Imperial Gardens hotwl for a week next month.

Do any of you guys know it's GF, or if the NGO crowd is there?

Thanks in advanceThe more expensive Hotels would have NGOs in them, as they take a lot of money for themselves from donations, and also they seem to drink at bars on the river front.

Pirate1
02-21-07, 01:10
After 6 months of delay I am here in PP.

This is my 1st Field Report so must go easy with my mistakes.

I must start by thanking you PhantomTiger2 (PT2) for all your time spent on information you had sent me. It made it very easy for me to be comfortably go around the city. Too bad no mongering members Hall of Fame on this forum. You are one worth honoring as I notice you have help many many other newbies like myself out all over this forum and never flame us for being newbies.

Also have to thank others for all the updates. Its a great forum for our interesting hobby.

Arrive PP by Airasia by BKK at 830am. No delays.

Immigration was no problem. Procedure is pay $20 and 1 passport size photo. Then must wait 10-15min until officier call out your name to pick up visa at the counter. It is a big visa sticker attach to my passport page, take up one whole page.

As recommend by PT2, Walk out of airport and already have car from Flamingo Hotel waiting with sign with my name, made me feel important already. Drive to hotel very short, takes 15 min with no traffic early morning.

Check in and room was nice for the excellent price.

Go downstairs and lobby clerk helpful to recommend moto-dop outside. He tell me all day with driver is only $9 until midnight. If I want later then will be $3 more. I ask if I pay gas, answer no, driver pay gas. Driver name is Metta. Young man I say maybe 20years old.

As advised by PT2, already pick up free PP map at airport. It is the folding Canby map. Very small but good map. It have all I want to visit.

I point to Metta to places I want to visit and he takes me. His english is limited but understands mostly I say--mostly I think he understand where I point to and go. Went to all usual places, Palace, Killing fields and more. PP Very interesting because very different from home. I don't think I will last 1 week in PP before get hit by moto-dop and cars crossing streets. Very dangerous even when careful. They do not stop for anybody.

Need a break from all the sights. Stop to have lunch by the river. Go to California hotel for food. It is not bad. Prices not high. Lunch cost $4, but I'm no big eater. Told Metta I want to have girl fun. He smiles, I think he knows it will be extra money for him for commission. As long as its not too much, I don't mind. If he honest then he deserve to make a good living too. So far he is honest.

I have a compass with me and notice he take me south, seems far, go past all the memorials. Stop at a street with many houses. Not many standing outside but still early in day. Metta points for me to go in one house as he park motobike. I hesitate because house donn look safe. Metta walk by me and I follow him. Outside look broken but inside house look clean and lots of lights. I see 10 girls sitting watch TV. Most are average 5 or 6 but one I like look like a 7. I point her to Metta. He speaks to Mama.come back tell me $15 for 1 hour. I say too much. I tell Metta if price no lower we will leave. Metta try talking again and final price $10. I understand Metta get commission so maybe no lower. I agree as it is fare for me. He did drive long way so donn want to waste more time.

Girl name "Fun", she is Vietnam. Metta say she is 22 but I say look 19.

I already ask to be sure she will BJ and for me to touch her as I understand many will not allow. Metta talk to mama and said she not allow touch her ass or finger her pussy, but BJ ok. I say ok as I donn care to much.

Go upstair, she ask take clothes off and shower, not shower as it is a big bucket full of water and pail to wash water over body. Water seem clean but very bloody cold. I was hard but cold water make me go soft again.

I did not carry too much money as clothes in room away from me, I do have camera in my hand. I start to worry steal my money while I'm away ($40 in pockets). I did not check back inside room as she starts to give me BJ and I start to be hard again. BJ was very soft, no suction. I donn think she is too experience in this as I feel her many teeth also. She try hard but I stop her before she injury my dick with her teeth. I touch her tits, very soft and natural but not large, be size at most. I try to touch her bottom but she push hand away, no matter.

I tell her to be on top but she didn't like after few min. I did her missionay and flip her over to finish doggie as I want to see her cute ass as I plug her harder until I release my load in the condom. They provide condom in room.

She is fare with me and smiles so although she donn do everything I want she is ok with decent attitute.

Here I am little scare when I reach into pants and expect to be stolen empty, but everthing still there.

I give her $2 tips as recommended by PT2 and others as fare amount. She seem ok with this.

Go out back to driver Metta and we go back to hotel for wash and afternoon rest until evening after dinner I plan to go to visit Walkabout, Sharkie and Shanghai. He drop me off and will return at 5pm to pick me up again.

I finish wash and plan on little nap but then I not too sleepy. Still 2 hours before Metta pick up so I walk around.

Decide to go St 63 as I read so much about this place. I walk around but donn see any houses with girls. I thought the many streets here have tons of girls but didn't see any. I about give up but walk up one more street and then have young man wave to me and ask want lady. I say yes, but donn see any. He say many police so doors are close. He knock and door open. Man come out check streets and check me. Ok, let me in doors. I see maybe 5 or 6 girls here. Very short girls but 1 or 2 still cute so I point to her and tell papa $5. He wave hand for no. I tell him no driver with me. He say ok $7. Not bad price so we go upstairs. But strange, as papa say make me pay 1st. I say no but he say no pay, no go upstairs. Its only $7 so ok..-Big mistake, Take clothes off and put on chair next to bed. She say to shower. I say no because donn want to leave clothes (remembering this is St63 and all the cautions PT2 had warned all of us about on this forum.) Girl name Min. , also Vietnam girl about 21. Girl attitute poor. Can't touch tits, no touch ass or pussy. No BJ. Maybe because she knows I always looking for problem in the room. Everytime I look at my clothes, she try to turn my head and body away. I now feel very tight as I know this is one place PT2 must have visited and will steal from me. I try not to let bother me or I will go soft again so I pump harder and faster to finish and get out. My moment of distraction looking at her to finish I hear my pants fall to floor as I have a big metal buckle on belt. Then I hear door close. That did it, dick goes soft and I jump out of bed, girl held my arms tight to hold me in bed but I push her besides. I see a trail of money leading from my pants going to door. I pick up all my things and put on clothes. Look in pocket and count it, had $10 less than before. MotherFker stole about $10 from me. I walk downstair but girl grap me and demanded a tip (her hands out)--WTF! , I ignore her as she yells at me. I confront papa downstairs and tell him someone stole from me and want money back along with my $7 deposit for not finishing. He laughs at me and say no steal from me. I continue to argue and He knocks on door and then 3 other guys came inside door and I saw 2 holding metal pipes and one guy had knife in belt. Bloody outnumbered, I knew to shut up now and just try to get out in one piece. I pointed to door and one guy open door and wave for me to go. I step outside all sweating even though not too hot outside and I know I got scam $17 but still feel very lucky as it could be much worse if I made a bigger stink. Not worth losing my life over $17-20 bloody dollars.

PT2, so sorry I didn't take your advice and avoid St63--I was just too bloody curious about this place, I didn't want to post this in beginning as I was very embarrass and I feel I had made a big mistake even after all the warnings from you but then decided it would be an error on my part not to further warn about the dangers of St63. So please learn from my mistake, As PT2 had warned, do not go without a knowledge guide but if you go then you are on your own and nobody to blame but yourselve if trouble happens.

Now I know why Metta drive me far to a place for girls but he knows it was a safe and honest place. From now on, I only go where he takes me to find girls. Few extra dollars in commission to him is worth it for not having to worry about my money or my life.

No longer urge to monger today so when Metta came for pick up, I went just to dinner and return to hotel for early rest.

Will post on day 2 later--to be continue.

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Member #3443
02-21-07, 04:57
nana hawk quoted "it is a generally accepted fact that the locals brothels contain a far higher proportion of indentured and **** girls" unquoted.

i will disagree. there are "upscale" local brothels that are not. you would not even know about these ones unless an "upscale" local took you.

Niknoy
02-21-07, 10:09
Pirate1,

I always avoid street 63, mind you i did go there last time i went to PP, because i was doing a taxi driver a favour, and the service was similar to yours pirate1, i ask for a young girl and they got me an 18 year old, which surprised me, she was hidden between the 40 year old line up of woman LOL, for some reason the young girl was intent in giving me a massage, and all i wanted to do was enjoy her young body, in the end i gave her a few dollars to let me feel her up.

I would have not said anythink, if my $10 had gone missing, people have this mistaken belief, that asians are good people, but they can turn very nasty if they want to, like you experianced.

Towoldse
02-21-07, 12:14
Is there anywhere in PP we can pick up some sex toys, or sexy lingerie?

Niknoy
02-21-07, 22:37
Is there anywhere in PP we can pick up some sex toys, or sexy lingerie?LOL, usualy I get a flight from London always via Bangkok, so I spend a couple of nights in BKK, get my sexy lingerie from there and take it to PP to dress my ladies up in, but I have never seen sex toys in BKK or PP.

Phantomtiger2
02-21-07, 23:13
After 6 months of delay I am here in PP.

This is my 1st Field Report so must go easy with my mistakes.



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Dude,
So glad you finally made it to PP.
I was reading your post and was happy for you as the info I sent seems to be working (at least the 1st half of your report) then saw you ignore my warnings (2nd half of report).
Despite all that happened, still glad you were not hurt or worst (dead). Loss of $20 is a small price for a hard lesson learned.
Don't feel too embarrassed about it all even though you knew it could happen. You took a gamble, you lost some money but gain back your life--given the odds, I still think you came out ahead. So thanks for posting your experiences for others to heed your warnings about more potentially dangerous happenings at St 63 brothels.
Stay safe and keep up your good reports.

Cheers

PT

Phantomtiger2
02-22-07, 01:15
There are "upscale" local brothels that are not. You would not even know about these ones unless an "upscale" local took you.


You caught my attention as I certainly don't know of any upscale locals when I visited.
Care to enlighten us where these nice places are located and what the "higher" scale prices would be in case any of us decide to go for a visit.

Cheers

PT

Pirate1
02-23-07, 00:00
Dude,

So glad you finally made it to PP.

I was reading your post and was happy for you as the info I sent seems to be working (at least the 1st half of your report) then saw you ignore my warnings (2nd half of report).

Despite all that happened, still glad you were not hurt or worst (dead). Loss of $20 is a small price for a hard lesson learned.

Don't feel too embarrassed about it all even though you knew it could happen. You took a gamble, you lost some money but gain back your life--given the odds, I still think you came out ahead. So thanks for posting your experiences for others to heed your warnings about more potentially dangerous happenings at St 63 brothels.
Stay safe and keep up your good reports.

Cheers

PTThnxs,

I wuz rather shaken by that whole ordeal. There was a good chance I do not make it out of that house. Nobody saw me go in and nobody know I go there. Because of all the crackdowns, some place like this one locks doors. No way for me to get out without fight 4 armed guys. They could easy kill me or someone else and nobody will know or find.

Yes, $20 not much and I wuz expecting to have them clean out all my money. Surprise they let me go and not ask for all my money I still have in pockets.

I almost did not write about experience at ST63 but decide it is best to add the bad with the good so no other newbies will have to experience all I had to. I now believe it is best for others to also post bad experiences alone with the good ones so others will not follow same mistakes. I also know many will not because I also read how many are flamed for posting bad experiences.

Pirate1
02-23-07, 00:42
Continue PP trip: Finish all my plan tourist sights and over the fright from St63 experience. Time to pick up action.

Went to the riverside for a walk but no find any SW for fun. Not sure if Im to early. Will come back later for another look. Maybe Im in wrong location. I am walking near California hotel.

Decide to go LeCycree for a look. Go in and sit down. Place not bad. Clean and friendly people. Another bloke inside already with beer in hand. I think one of you but it wuz the owner, a Frenchguy. He wuz friendly and talk english well. I order a beer and ask him questions to loose myself for action. He make 2 recommendations but I have eye on this cutie. He said she is good and bin there long time now. I notice her when I walk in by the nice rack she have with cute face. http://www.bayonpearnik.com/cyrceeclub/index.html

The internet site with Le Cyrcee club. She is the 1st girl in front in the picture. Bloody shit, I cant recall her name?--just remember her nice racks.

She get off chair. Shit, very very short girl. No longer than 4'8" at best. but no matter as I continue to stare at her racks. She have tatoo on body also.

Finish beer and go upstairs. She wash me and we go to bed. She give me nice BJ. Last over 5min. I start to finger her and touch them nice racks. Very soft and smooth. She have good attitute, alwaz smiling at me. We cover many position as possible but her small height made many position difficult. Have her in doogie but she way too low. Have to stand outside bed to do her doggie but worth it. She not thin, little bit chubby but I like it because different. I think too many girls in Cambodia too skinny. This one have meat on her. I keep pumping her but take bit longer time, she is not very tight. no matter because need the extra exercise. Finally come on her nice titty racks.

Give her $3 tips and go down to pay rest of bill.

Total was $2 beer+ $12 for girl + $3 tips=17 and I was out the door happy.
This wuz about how much I lost yesterday at ST63 house and I didnt even get to finish and come. F**k those places there.

Here at Cycree, I leave happy and no rip off and safe place.

I walk back to riverside but alwaz looking around, very dark. Very little lights, only from some stores but most closed. I make it to river and start my walk again but still cant find any SW anywhere. I decide to try Walkabout.

I flag down motodop, not correct, motodop flag me. I say Walkabout, he sez ok and knows. He drive on but notice in wrong direction? I stop him and point that way, he turn and go. Bloody donn know where he was going. I have to direct him. I seem to know PP better than him. Make it to Walkabout bar. I give him 1000riels but he call me back, give him another 500r and he seem ok.

Walk inside and see tables but not much action. Several blokes having drinks and only 3 FL about, non to my liking. I sit anyway and have a beer and see if anything nice come in. 30min later still no action so I pay for beer and leave.

Shanghai not far so I walk over. Some nicer ones here. I sit down and order beer. Girls come over to talk and sit next to me. Bloody nice. But many donn speak english well. Decided on one cutie. I think they all work for bar. Shit, Could not decide early enough and the one I want already pick up by another guy , maybe one of you?
No one else interest me so I pay beer and leave.

Heart of darkness also close. I walk over. They body search me before I enter? Never have that before. Walk in and place wuz dead. Only 2 people in place but maybe too early at 11pm.

I walk back to the Flamingo Hotel, not far and call it a night.

Too be continue

Pirate1 out for now.

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Benny09
02-23-07, 07:33
Thanks for your straight up reports. Sorry about 63rd st,they do take the fun out of p4p. Give Martinis and Sharkys a go ,also try Sophies and soho2. Some nice bars/girls 104 st. The Heart from 12-4 am.

Good luck.

AncntFornicatr
02-23-07, 09:23
they were there last nite. i am staying at the paragon hotel and i was not sure until last nite if they are girl friendly. was knocking around the quay, drink a beer here and there. can't make up my mind if i want to go to sharky's or not. crossed the street (that can be a bit intimidating) to walk along the river. a guy jumped up from the grass, asked if i wanted a lady. she also got up and made the offer clearer. maybe a 6 or 7 but i was not interested in having her up in my room and him downstairs telling her to hurry up. politely declined.

continued my walk and a little later as i was walking next to the wall along the river a couple of seemingly shy types whispered/shouted "hello mister" but it was not a "for sure" invitation so i kept walking.

ten minutes later a cute little thing walked directly up to me and said, "where you go" and i said here i go. we sat down on the wall and she agreed to cim for $10. started at $20 but when i said ten she said ok. said she was 21 and that looked reasonable to me. all of this talk about **** has me spooked.

walked across the street where the young guy who is usually at the door of the hotel opened it without batting an eye. good sign i thought, hope they don't pitch a ***** about a girl. usually there is the whole family sitting around the lobby from grandma to a little kid or two.

walked past the desk, said hi to the kid behind the counter and up we went. nobody batted an eye. then it is up the craziest staircase i have ever been on. steps are different heights and if you are drunk it can be a real challenge. not to mention that when they say you are on the third floor, it means you have three more floors to go as they don't count the ground floor. elevator is a word that doesn't exist in this part of the world. so i have a fourth floor walkup which in ny would be cheaper but that doesn't cut the mustard here. the view is nice from my balcony though.

so i take the little lady into the room and she immediately drops drawers and says "yum yum now". i say well wait until i get my camera out and my pants off. she is very obliging for the camera. gyno shots seem like the norm. she helps spread for an internal. for such a little girl she seems to have a pretty big hairy pussy. she also has baggy tits which she blames now on a two year old kid. her english is spotty so i am not sure how much we are comunicating.

with my pants off we do communicate that it is time to do some yum yum. she gets with the program pretty well for a couple of minutes. then starts mumbling about more money and i am suggesting that if she stays with the program and gets her mouth back where it belongs we will both get out of here quicker.

at this part of the show she opens her mouth and sticks out her tongue for me to look at. a quick glance and i tell her all it needs is some white stuff running over it and it will be fine. she then comes up with the magic word as she points again to her tongue.

hiv

well, that was all it took to get my dick in a reclining state. we use condoms because we are afraid of the possability of running into hiv positive women. but when one says she is, and points to her tongue which you now realize does have a coating of something white and it ain't mine, that elicits a different response.

so i gave her $5 and she begged another buck for a moto and she headed for the door. after she was out and i was washing my dick i realized that i didn't know where my camera was. quit washing and started looking. no camera.

the phone rings. can't really understand what is being said but i assume it is instgiated by the girl showing up downstairs. "she stole my camera, dont let her go" and i am out the door. she is coming back up the stairs, reaching into the pocket of her shorts to get out my camera while begging me not to tell them downstairs that she had it.

in the lobby there are two guys and a women behind the counter and one guy at the door. the girl looks scared and i hope somebody kicks her ass. i repeat that she stole my camera and the older guy behind the counter really gets on her ass. i can't understand a word but he is not complementing her on her good looks. then the woman gets into the act and chews her out. they ask me if she stole any money and should they search her. finally they throw her out.

so much of the question of "are they girl friendly". not if she is a thief. i thanked them and went out and drank a beer which is what i am going to do now. i still like phnom phen. cool place but as others have warned, pay attention. this is not bangkok.

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Phantomtiger2
02-23-07, 20:08
Glad you didn't let your setback at St 63 the other night stop you from having more fun.
Another great report, couldn't have done it better myself.

I see you took my advice and picked the small girl with the big tits, fun girl. Funny thing is I can't remember her name either but only the tits.

Like many have also concur--Keep up the good reports.


Cheers

PT

Pirate1
02-23-07, 20:32
Thanks for your straight up reports. Sorry about 63rd st,they do take the fun out of p4p. Give Martinis and Sharkys a go ,also try Sophies and soho2. Some nice bars/girls 104 st. The Heart from 12-4 am.

Good luck.Thnx,

These are place I plan to cover on my list to do.

Seems I was to early at Hearts of Dark., maybe I give another look if have time later in the night.

Benny, are you also newbie in PP?

Also thnx to PT2 for recommend my reports for Distinction. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.

To be continued,

Pirate1

Phantomtiger2
02-24-07, 00:52
. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.

To be continued,

Pirate1


Hey Dude,
Thanks for the compliments. No need for me to take any of your good credits. Afterall, I only gave you info/hints/tips but its up to you to make them work.


PT

Benny09
02-24-07, 05:28
Thnx,

These are place I plan to cover on my list to do.

Seems I was to early at Hearts of Dark., maybe I give another look if have time later in the night.

Benny, are you also newbie in PP?

Also thnx to PT2 for recommend my reports for Distinction. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.

To be continued,

Pirate1Pirate1,

Glad to hear you're back in the game.Please avoid the SW, they are scammers as is 63rd st.PT2 and others have all stated the risks hear.SW are even worse because they are in your room! 90% are yama addicts,not even slightly interested in your needs. To answer your question,i have been to PP a few times now and am somewhere between a newbie and a regular.Some locals remember me and that helps alot.Forgot to mention Mikado, same as LC but more layback.1 min walk from LC.

Happy hunting

Gohan39
02-25-07, 14:53
You caught my attention as I certainly don't know of any upscale locals when I visited.

Care to enlighten us where these nice places are located and what the "higher" scale prices would be in case any of us decide to go for a visit.

Cheers

PTHello PT2,

I hope this from my collection is the info you seek.

I copied this from the DV8 website nightlife link 6 months ago or so but don't
see it there now.

So please excuse my posting this long post instead of a convenient link.
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High End Escort Services (These places run out of girls by 12:00 midnight,
except Casa which is open until 3:00 a.m. and Holiday International Manhattan Club)
Casa Hotel Night Club and Restaurant No. 5 France Street 47 Near What Phnom Girls
arrive at 8:00 pm, all independent escorts with one mamamasan

Vietnamese $67 a night ($50 if you rent a karoke room)

Chinese $150 a night

Cambodians $67 a night (no negotiation on the prices)

Karoke room is $8 all night, girl is $7 plus tip of at least $10.

What you do is between each other, no sex in the room.

You can take her home for $50.

Club 99 No. 10 Street 252 Girls arrive at 8:00 p.m. Cambodians girls Vietnamese girls One mamason $70 a night (negotiated down to $60 a night)

Holiday International Manhattan Club Street 84, off Monivong Girls do not arrive until late at 1:00 a.m. Vietnamese, Chinese and Cambodian dance on the disco floor.

Tell the waiter you want to speak to the mamasan. Tell her who you want. $50 a night (I did not negotiate).

XO Club, No. 85 A, Street 163 By far the best looking girls, Vietnamese and Cambodian.

This is NOT an escort service. The rooms are $8 an up a night. The girls are free but expect a tip.

You sing karoke and hug them. They make money off the food and drinks. The girls drink what you buy them.

Many married women work here to make ends meet. The girls and beer girls will go home with you if they like you.

There is no pressure to go home with you. If you want a girl right away, ask to see the mamasan. Girls are $70 to

$100 a night. See also the Yellow Pages under nightclubs and karoke. "Karoke" is a code word for escort service and places like XO.

Low end escorts

Martinis - This is a freelancer bar and prices are negotiable, there are a couple of mamasans with a few girls.

There is no recourse on the bar if you stuff is stolen by any of the girls you may pick up here. Prices are around $10-$20.

The girls standing at night near the Independance Monument, near Wat Phnom and along street 106.

Be careful if you go to these places as you could easily be robbed. The girls on 106st are most pick pockets.

Walkabout.- Same as Martinis

Sharkies Bar.

Heart of Darkness. - You'll probably see many of the same girls you'd meet in Walkabout and Sharkies.

Le Crycee - Closest thing you'll get to a brothel.

Sophies Club - An experience, a BJ bar. STD's can be transmitted thru a BJ.

Mid Range Hostess bars.
There are about 20 or so hostess bars aimed at westerners, prices are negotiable and the girls are generally a better standard. Bars do not charge for sex services provided by the girls as this is illegal.

Hostess bars do have a bar fine that covers the loss of income created by not having the staff member in the bar.

Middle range escort services.

The Cambodian brothels are all located near the Lucky Star Hotel No 14 Street 336. At night, the brothel owners rent space at the hair salons. When you drive by, the pimps will call you in. The brothels are open during the day as well.

You have to knock on the doors. The girls are all Cambodian. Prices are $10 to $25. There are also girls that stand in groups of threes on the street corners nearby.

The Vietnamese brothels (there are four of them) are all located on Street 63Sangkat Phsar Thmei Ti 3. No. 40 is a brothel.

During the day it is a haircut shop. Knock on the door during the day. The girls are $30 a night. You can negotiate.

The girls at the brothels work harder to please you than the independents because the pimps actually beat them up if you complain, so don't support these places.
Motodops / Tuk Tuk Drivers.

Usually a good source of local knowledge, you'll never pay local prices but you will get to see a few places not generally talked about.

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Gohan39
02-25-07, 19:42
One of the establishments from the "High End" places file I did visit.

The Casa Had Viet girls upstairs in a room, well-lit and must have been just over a hundred of them.

The girls were all wearing a number but very few bothered to make eye contact with me. I was a little early at about 8pm so they were still filing in and primping themselves infront of mirrors.

Some looked good, but what seperated these from the lower priced viet girls was they had money for beauty parlors and dressed better. Dosen't matter how good they look if they aren't showing any interest in me I wouldn't want them to go with me.

Left after 15 minutes and never asked (because nobody bothered to make an offer) if the $65 price tag was correct.

I do believe it was going to cost more than I would be willing to pay, lots of signs advertising Hennesy cognac if that tells you anything.

This Club Casa is also a nightclub and hotel, I recall when checking for wifi hotspots this place is one of them. Not sure what staying here would be like costwise, what the rooms are like or if the nightclub would be too noisey for sleeping.

Walked through the nightclub on the way to and from the viewing room with the viet girls and it was not opened yet and was extremely dark even though what appeared to be the staff, working, setting up the place for the opening.

It's located in the circle that goes around that park with the lite blue Wat off Sisowath Quay. Sorry don't have my map handy.

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Dveight Bar
02-26-07, 23:23
Bar 104 - never been inside but looks like a nice relaxing bar to have a drink in.At the time of your visit to 104 street OneZeroFour had about 26 girls in the bar, now it's down to about 17 but the number fluctuates.

Most go out, except for the manager and cashier and one other girl.

The bar has been gaining a lot of popularity over the last fews months and now is as busy as Zanzibar. Over the last month or so Zanzibar seems to have lost most of their better girls, including the 3 I liked.

Rising Son
02-27-07, 08:11
Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.

It's taken me this long because I was searching for good news, but there's not much to be had. The sad fact is that the town is in a long, slow decline on the International Boom-Boom Scale and there are few signs that things are turning around.

Here are the three most important things I've noticed.

Fewer girls.

Somewhat less attractive girls.

Higher prices.

Before I go any further with this, I should probably say that I've been spending substantial amounts of time here – anywhere from 2 to 6 months a year – since 1997, which puts me in a relatively small group of people. So I actually do have a frame of reference. I knew the place when it was at its best, and I know it now.

And it ain't the same.

That doesn't mean that someone who's never been here, or has been here only a couple of times in the past two or three years, shouldn't come. There's more than enough available material, and it's still a bargain compared to other, um, shopping districts in Asia. You can still have a good time here.

Before we move on to some of the action spots, let me take a minute to compare the two varieties of companionship available here: Viets and Khmers.

Generally speaking, the Viets are more adventurous and more commercial. The Khmers take a narrower view of things. They tend to believe, for example, that the mouth is to be used for eating and talking. It's relatively rare to have a Khmer girl spend any time doing the Hoover on your little brother. On the other hand, the Khmers tend to be sweeter and cuddlier.

So if you want proficient, adventurous, and professional, go Viet. If you want a GFE (with a GF who doesn't do all that much) go Khmer. There are exceptions, of course. As Mark Twain said, no generalization is worth a damn, including this one.

Nevertheless, give me a Viet, every time.

And that's one of the problems. In the old days, the infamous Svay Pak served as a sort of farm team, the minor leagues in which Viet freelancers learned their skills. Now that it's gone, the continuous flow of new Viet talent has narrowed to a trickle. There are a few new faces, but only a few.

And several ladies of my acquaintance have told me that there are new problems for Viets trying to enter Cambodia. This has happened before, but it seems to be more of an issue now. A few girls coming back from their Viet New Year trip home had to try several times before getting back in.

Okay. The venues.

Martini is still the mother load if what you want is an evening doing the horizontal bop that doesn't require you to take out a second mortgage. There are still some beautiful girls here, about 60% Khmer and 40% Viet. (If you want to find out who's who, talk to a girl, find out which camp she belongs to, and then look to see who she hangs with. Generally speaking, there's not much international fraternization.) Set the price up front, get it clear which specialties you expect, and how long you want her to stay. These rules apply for everyplace on this list. If you think the price is too high, bargain. She'll either walk away or agree. But get it straight in advance/

Sharky is (I think) a pretty dreadful bar, but that's mostly because the guys who own it are really, really fond of 1980s big-hair metal and AC-DC. The music seems to start out reasonably acceptably and then get louder and worse as the evening wears (and I do mean wears) on. Still, the food here is pretty good – best Tex-Mex in PP – and there are some honeys in attendance. I'd say the mix is 65% Khmer and 35% Viet. More tattoos in evidence here than in Martini, along with whatever that implies.

Walkabout remains in business solely, I'm convinced, because it's open 24/7 and there are always girls there, although sometimes it should be written “girls” because many of them are well into their fourth decade. (For those of you who are counting, that's the thirties.) One other appealing thing about Walkabout is that there are short-time rooms upstairs. On the less appealing end of things, the quality of the talent is generally lower than at Martini or Sharky, and they wash the tables approximately once a year, whether they need it or not. The damp “cleaning towels” at Walkabout are among the world's most fearsome objects. One note – there's generally a slump in the number of females present from about 4:30 PM until about 6:30 as the ladies go to make up and dress up for the evening.

Sophie remains Sophie. It still offers suck-the-knob contests at the bar and a couple of really awful rooms in the back. There's nowhere else like it, which may or may not be a bad thing. Most of the talent has been there an awfully long time. 100% Khmer, but all bets are off, since Sophie's girs are famous for being willing to do anything. Anything at all.

Le Cyrcee has gotten some bad-mouthing lately because of rises in the room and service rates, but don't miss it. The girls have gotten well beyond the friendly stage, and there are now some Viets available – maybe 4 or 5 out of about 30. Once again, though, unless you simply have a genetic preference for Viets, it doesn't matter here – these girls are up for pretty much anything you can think of.

Mikado gets my vote as most improved bar. Last time I was in there (last night) there were 30-some Khmer girls hanging around doing nothing. One of the wonderful things about Mikado is that the young ladies are apparently prohibited from wearing panties and are not shy about demonstrating the fact. Take a seat at the bar, do a survey of what's available, and then take her (or them) and adjourn to one of the little booths along the wall opposite the bar while you check out your mutual chemistry and the absence of her underwear. Then take her upstairs to the best short-time rooms in PP – cleaned between sessions, with sparkly lights and mirrors literally everywhere, including on the ceiling. Of course, if it turns out your choice has had three or four children, you'll get multiple-camera coverage of her stretch marks, but nothing is perfect. Standard of service is very high.

DV8 has some of the friendliest girls in town – not always the most attractive, but really sweet. And it would seem (ssshhhhhh) that rooms are once again available on the premises for those of you who may have a sweetie asleep at home.

Other bars: Golden Vine says it has girls dancing (clothed) on the bar, but every time I go in it just ended for the evening. Girls are okay, nothing to make you make a deposit in the memory bank, but not all of them are available. Same is true of the bar next door with a Mexican name I can't remember at the moment – bar dancing that always seems to have just ended, and a yes/no situation with take-out. On the same little block is Voodoo, which is same-same except it doesn't claim to have girls dancing on the bar. Some pretty girls in here. Happy Man Bar is a relative newcomer. Lots of girls, generally in the 5-7 area, mostly available for further exploration elsewhere.

This could go on forever. In fact, it already has. On the brothel front, 63rd Street remains (mostly) closed, and foreigners are not made to feel welcome in the places that are still in business. Toul Kork is dirty and dangerous. There are some beautiful girls here, but there's always a chance that you'll just get one glance as the mama-san slams the metal doors shut in your face. Svay Pak is a ghost town, with some rumored action off the main street, but I think you'd have to be crazy to go there.

So my tips: find half a dozen girls you like, get their phone numbers, and then work to make your phone book ever thicker. Treat the girls nicely, and word will get around: you'll get attention from some of the better-looking talent in the venue of your choice.

You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.

RS

Muleface
02-27-07, 11:47
Great report, but a little discouraging, as I'm off to PP in 2 weeks for the first time. Is there a chance you just happen to hit at a bad time?

Here are the three most important things I've noticed.

Fewer girls.

Somewhat less attractive girls.

Higher prices.

Hollow Man
02-27-07, 15:38
Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.
You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.

RSRS,

Excellent report man. Great info. I'm headed back in a few months so the update is really helpful. Price hikes suck though. PP has gotten alot of international attention recently.

Ipohdog
02-27-07, 15:50
You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.

RSRS, thanks for the great report. I'll be in SR & PP in April. I'm a regular monger around Asia but my first visit to Cambodia.

Your post kind of solidified some of my choices after reading this forum for the past few months. As I can't take girls back to my room, my plans were: Sophies, Cyrcee & Mikado. Based on your post, looks like these are a good match for my tastes. I'll move Mikado to the top of the list. I gotta go to Sophies (I got this vision of this place with guys getting sucked off at the bar. Gotta see it for myself). Then if I've got steam left I'll head to Cyrcee.

Thanks again for taking the time to post.

I'll give a F and SR once I'm back.

Bow Wow

NanaHawk
02-27-07, 20:12
Hi Rising Son,

That is a really great report that is packed with information and is a good read. I agree with everything you say and would add that, apparrently, the Viets who did not have 'work permits' were kicked out of Phnom Penh and this explains the smaller numbers than previously.

I found that the Golden Vine prices were much higher than other bars, and wouldn't say that I was the ugliest, fattest and fattest person to visit Phnom Penh. Are you able to say what price you negotiated here?

Your post is as worthy as any to be posted as a Report of Distinction, does it need to be recommended by the editor?

Phantomtiger2
02-27-07, 21:00
Your post is as worthy as any to be posted as a Report of Distinction, does it need to be recommended by the editor?No, ROD don't need to be approved or recommended by the author or by ISG management. Simply follow the directions for posting on the ROD thread. If a post is worthy then it should be in the ROD for easy reference but take notice that many have been flamed in the past for posting ROD that were unworthy. So always make sure it is informative and will be useful for your fellow mongers.

BTW: I also read Rising Son's post and was about to post it in the ROD but AZN already beat me to it.

Cheers,

PT

Phantomtiger2
02-27-07, 21:43
Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.

RSHey RS,

Spending 4 weeks in PP, damn do I envy you. Nice report.

Last I heard, you were in the hospital recovering and after getting kicked out of hospital I thought you were heading for Chinese food (oops-I mean pussy)--ha ha.

Glad you made it to PP.

Cheers

PT

Ekspat
02-28-07, 02:29
Great report, but a little discouraging, as I'm off to PP in 2 weeks for the first time. Is there a chance you just happen to hit at a bad time?I'm afraid the report is pretty accurate and I saw the same trend.

I've been to PP many times from 2001-2004, then in 2005 only once and since then never again. And I don't see any reason to visit PP nowadays.
But for first-timer it's an interesting place, no doubt.

Cheers!

Niknoy
02-28-07, 14:07
Comments on RisingSons great report: The bar with the Mexican name you don't recall is the Zapata bar. The owners here also own the Zanzibar in st 104, the girls in this bar and the Rose Bar in the same street, go into The Pickled Parrot after work. The Pickled Parrot is a 24 hour bar. Some of these girls are looking for a place to sleep of a night, so if your offering your bed untill the morning. Here's your chance, some will have sex with you, some will not.

Hollow Man
02-28-07, 17:49
As I can't take girls back to my room, my plans were: Sophies, Cyrcee & Mikado. Based on your post, looks like these are a good match for my tastes. I'll move Mikado to the top of the list. I gotta go to Sophies (I got this vision of this place with guys getting sucked off at the bar. Gotta see it for myself). Then if I've got steam left I'll head to Cyrcee.

Bow WowOther option is getting a room short time. just ask the hotel guy how much for 1-2 hrs. they'll give you a reduced rate (around 50%) prob 3-7 bucks depending on the place.

Phantomtiger2
03-01-07, 00:49
post is as worthy to be posted as a Report of Distinction, ?NanaHawk,

I've copied the simple directions for posting in the ROD thread.

In the future, if you feel any post should be posted there, then just follow the instructions below. Cheers.

PT

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Rising Son
03-01-07, 06:08
-- for all the nice words about my earlier report. I wish it had been more positive, but I thought it was more important to be honest than to be entertaining.

I never actually took anyone out of Golden Vine, so can't help with the prices there. And, of course, the bar near GV and VooDoo is called Zapata. Thanks for the prod. I think I'm short-circuiting lately.

By the way, I want to say that Casa (mentioned earlier) is a nightmare -- too loud, too dark, too unfriendly, too jittery. It eats it. And I have always found the disco in what used to be the Holiday International (now renamed the Oasis) to be full of girls who are really interested only in heavyweight Khmers or well-heeled Chinese, especially since the hotel is (or was) owned by Singaporean Chinese, who also accounted for most of their guests.

I have to say that the best-looking Viet girls I've seen this trip are at Moscow, and they cost plenty: $75 to $100. At that price I haven't bitten, but it's not because my mouth wasn't hanging open. There are some real stunners there.

On the other hand, I left out one piece of good news. The season is finally coming to an end. Thus, due to the classic capitalistic economic model, PP is shifting from a seller's market to a buyer's market. Many of the best-looking girls at Martini are spending most of the evening sitting on the wall.

Bad bargaining position for them, good bargaining position for us.

On Sunday I'm going to the Dongguan-ChangPing area of China for a couple of weeks (or more) before coming back here. Will do some sort of report after I've sorted out my impressions.

RS

Ibeme
03-03-07, 16:10
Has anyone ever been to the Sugar Shack bar? Also what kind of bar is it and are all the girls available for take out? Their website looks appealing.

NoCBJ4Me
03-04-07, 15:19
Phantomtiger2,

The links in your Feb 28 post do not work.

nocbj4me

AncntFornicatr
03-05-07, 08:12
Has anyone ever been to the Sugar Shack bar? Also what kind of bar is it and are all the girls available for take out? Their website looks appealing.If you go thru the alleyway next to California 2 and make a left turn as you exit you will be right ihn front of the Sugar Shack.

It is a smallish bar that has reinvented it's self from a wine bar that was going broke to a comfortable place that at times has some lovelies available to bar fine.

Phantomtiger2
03-05-07, 18:14
Phantomtiger2,

The links in your Feb 28 post do not work.

nocbj4meHi NoCB,

If you are refering to the ROD links, then the links are just examples( not real links) Jackson had used to show how it would look when a ROD is correctly posted. I had simply copied the step by step instructions for others that had inquired how to post a ROD.

Cheers

PT

Saint Jack
03-06-07, 09:21
This is the report on my February visit to Phnom Penh.

Lodging was at Flamingo hotel as recommended by many on ISG. 20 USD per night for room adequately furnished; A/C, TV, shower & phone.

One way airport transfer is included in the hotel price so you can either email and inform the hotel of your arrival flight detail or have them deliver you to airport free of charge but the other way you have to pay for it.

Thogh the hotel location is very close to many actions but I did not take the advantage as nothing particularly interesting appealed to me either at Walkabout (many girls but no one particularly attractive) or Shanghai.

Decided that Martini should be the best bet, took a moto there for 1 USD. Drink price is reasonable at 1.5-2 USD for beers. Many girls with mix of Viets and Khmers around half half. Many of them just standing, sitting to wait for customers but only a few would actively come to you to offer themselves except some mamasan whom would ask what type of girl you like and she would try to arrange for you.

Went into disco but a bit difficult to distinguish how good they will look like under brighter lighting. Also, heavily polluted with smokes with loud music so I decided to return to the garden. Spotted a young Viet girl so smiled to her and she came to me. But not just herself but also mamasan as she is said to be new to the scene and not able to speak much English. I realized from the moment that this would not come down to the price of 20 USD LT as stated on this firum since it's going through middlewoman; but what I can do as not seeing better one I'd like to spend the night with. Agreed to 30 USD LT to keep her until 8 AM for this 21 yearsold whom later told me she started to work for just one month and used to work at hair salon.

The girl was good in the way that she's fresh but this also means inexperience in service so not much to talk about on that. But at least she's friendly and had no refusing my requests so I rate this as OK.

Sophie was on my agenda since reading so many reports here good and bad. So, the best is to see it first hand myself. Went there around 11 PM and had to knock on door to be opened from inside.

2 guys sitting there but just drinking and no actions seen as expected. One was farang waiting for room to be available and the other was a Cambodian guy. My assumption of no action going on which was verified later by the moto man downstair is that they don't want local people to see what is going on for fear of security. They seem to have policy of not servicing locals and not let them see what the bar usually does.

So, unfortunately I did not have the chance to try each girls before selecting one by instinct. All girls here are Khmers with no Viets. As this is a BJ bar so level of service for BJ is good. The girl I chose did it for quite sometime and asked if I want to CIM or FS for which I said the latter. It was quite a good experience for the service but one thing I don't quite like is quality of room. Very simple and probably overused and a bit doubtful hygiene level as bed sheets not seem to be replaced.

If the management can refurbish the rooms it will make it a more enjoyable experience.

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Phantomtiger2
03-06-07, 23:31
2 guys sitting there but just drinking and no actions seen as expected. One was farang waiting for room to be available and the other was a Cambodian guy. My assumption of no action going on which was verified later by the moto man downstair is that they don't want local people to see what is going on for fear of security. They seem to have policy of not servicing locals and not let them see what the bar usually does.

So, unfortunately I did not have the chance to try each girls before selecting one by instinct.


EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.I actually didn't know this part as no one before had mention that locals were not serviced at Sophies. I'm only guessing this is meant for the average local worker off the streets. Although the prices here are way above what an average local worker can afford, I truly wonder if this non-local policy is true as many locals in PP have more money than we do (I've seen them with their fancy cars, bodyguards etc) . Not sure they will get turned down when they start flashing their money around at Sophies.

Also Not really sure about the part that Sophies don't want locals to know what goes on in Sophies because if every motodop/ taxi in PP knows about this place then its not a secret anyway.

They may not like to service a poorer local guy (remember locals are famous for not tipping) but I'm fairly certain he already knows what goes on there---IMO

PT

Goa Master
03-10-07, 09:43
First trip to Cambodia.

Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.

I will go from Bangkok to Cambodia by airplane.

I will go to PP Phnom Penh.

I read a lot off PP her one the board and I am pretty sure I going to like it.

But to make sure I have all the Wright info on PP I will tell you guys how I am going to do it in general line I mean.

So her goes:

I com to PP airport and there I am going to take a taxi to my hotel (Flamingos Hotel) 20$ for one night.

I hoop this info is correct and I will pay for the taxi 5$ to 10$ something in-between. Or do I have to take an other hotel in PP but it have to be girl friendly off cores? There I will go look for some nice girls on the board thy say grab a motorbike taxi and he get you everywhere you want for the price of 5$ for the day is this info correct to?

So when I take a lady I like for a short time I suppose to pay 15$ to 20$ ST yes or no guys?

And when I take a lady long time to say to spend the all day and night whit me I pay 30$ to 40$ is this info correct to?

I will go on 24 or 25 this month and I going to stay for about 5 days in PP my pocket money I am going to take is 1250 $ will this be ok or chute I take more money? This money is for 5 or 6 days off drinking, hotels and lady’s will this be in off. If there is any off you guys in PP that time please tell me I will happy to go along and enjoy whit him and its my first time in PP so I can need a guide over in PP. That’s it guys I hoop all my info on Cambodia PP is correct when not please tell me what I have to do ok.

Thanks guys need all the info I can get so tell me more ok.

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CoolDudecoco
03-11-07, 02:18
Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.

Taxi to hotel should be no more then seven dollars s/t 10 tip if you are happy l/t is 20 tip if happy, let me say that this is a base line you will run into other factors for price increases, bars on 102, 104, have bar fines. Around six dollars. There are superstars out there (I have not seen any so far) but I am sure there out there and I am sure they price accordingly I will be there in same hotel the week of the 18th thu 24th but I think I will travel south to the beach then back to Thailand.

Azn Playa
03-11-07, 04:17
First trip to Cambodia.

Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.

I will go from Bangkok to Cambodia by airplane.

I will go to PP Phnom Penh.

I read a lot off PP her one the board and I am pretty sure I going to like it.

But to make sure I have all the Wright info on PP I will tell you guys how I am going to do it in general line I mean.Before anyone reponds to this guy, I recommend you read his other 9 posts on ISG. It all looks very suspicious.

In Aug 2006 he asks similar questions saying that he is about to arrive in PP:
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=499792

and he then thanks everyone for their help:
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=500370

Although now he says it is his first time to come to PP.

Also, very similar posts have been made on these boards:

Bratislava
Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Vienna (twice)
Manila (twice)

Goa Master
03-11-07, 10:07
Sorry but this is really going to be my first trip to PP.

And about all the other treats you right I ask it because I have to bring back some lady to BKK and I was thinking off only take the airplain to Vienna and get some mongering there but what the fuck I am going all the way to BKK for one week and now I am alone so I can go everywhere.

This explain the treats Azn Playa.

But ok when nobody whant to help ok for me I take car for it myself I am a fast learning guy.

Forever69
03-12-07, 08:17
All your questions are answered if you know how to read the information on this thread. You don't have to ask over and over the same questions already answerd by others postings, just read and try tounderstand. St is 10 and 15, lt 20 to 25 no tip required, your payment is the tip. Do not shower people with your money it is very bad for everybody.

Phantomtiger2
03-12-07, 17:23
First trip to Cambodia.

Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.

I will go from Bangkok to Cambodia by airplane.
I com to PP airport and there I am going to take a taxi to my hotel (Flamingos Hotel) 20$ for one night.

I hoop this info is correct and I will pay for the taxi 5$ to 10$ something in-between. [Text deleted by Admin]

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No taxi needed for pickup from airport if you are staying at Flamingos. Just let them know ahead which day and time your plane arrives and its a free pickup to their hotel.



PT

NoCBJ4Me
03-13-07, 15:36
...very similar posts have been made on these boards:

Bratislava
Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Vienna (twice)
Manila (twice)

Azn Playa,

I agree with you. All the same type questions, and in a relatively short period of time. Maybe he runs a sex travel website and is trying to get us to update his prices/info for him.

nocbj4me

Ekspat
03-14-07, 01:42
I take car for it myself I am a fast learning guy.
Seems you have to be. Good luck!
Cheers!

Pokey Penguin
03-14-07, 16:05
I was in PP a few months ago, and went to a place I read about called...new world massage if I remember correctly. Well, it was a big fishbowl with the best looking girls seated outside the fishbowl. Those girls, I was told, were all from China, and the girls inside the fishbowl were local Cambo girls.

I picked a Chinese girl. In the room, I asked her about boom boom, and she seemed surprised, then said "one hundred dolla." I made a counter offer of ten dolla. Well she wouldn't go any lower than 70 dolla!

So I am wondering, is this normal for this place? You have to be nuts to pay a price like that in Cambodia.

I took her back to the front desk and asked to choose somebody else. I ended up choosing a local girl and she agreed on $20 for the extras.

Anyway, can anyone else confirm that these "sideline" girls at New World are really all charging that much?

As for the rest of my recent PP trip, the best girls were at Martini and Mikado, IMO. The girl named "Mom" at Mikado is a super sweetie.

Pirate1
03-14-07, 21:59
I was in PP a few months ago, and went to a place I read about called...new world massage if I remember correctly. Well, it was a big fishbowl with the best looking girls seated outside the fishbowl. Those girls, I was told, were all from China, and the girls inside the fishbowl were local Cambo girls.

I picked a Chinese girl. In the room, I asked her about boom boom, and she seemed surprised, then said "one hundred dolla." I made a counter offer of ten dolla. Well she wouldn't go any lower than 70 dolla!

So I am wondering, is this normal for this place? You have to be nuts to pay a price like that in Cambodia.

I took her back to the front desk and asked to choose somebody else. I ended up choosing a local girl and she agreed on $20 for the extras.

Anyway, can anyone else confirm that these "sideline" girls at New World are really all charging that much?

As for the rest of my recent PP trip, the best girls were at Martini and Mikado, IMO. The girl named "Mom" at Mikado is a super sweetie.I came by place when I wuz in PP. Many lookers look hot. Prices high so dunn pickup. Some willing to go for $40-50 but only ST, never ask LT so dunn know LT pricing.

Like you, think ask to much for PP.

Dunn know if ladies chinese ,viet or khmer but price dunn attract me to stay. Also dunn think service at this place can be better than Sophie and cheaper.

PT

Pokey Penguin
03-17-07, 15:27
Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?

Phantomtiger2
03-17-07, 18:44
Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?


Depends pal.
Seen some NGO drive in 4x4 usual white cruisers but don't remember if Lexus--doubt it though.
Have many rich Khmer officials and business like people who are rich even by our standards. Easy way of telling is see if passenger in Lexus is farang (NGO) or khmer looking dude.

PT

Pirate1
03-17-07, 21:20
Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?Seen many rich khmer clowns with family living in mansions and driving big Lexus all livin near the Royal Palace area. All think own the streets of PP, maybe they do?

Not Ngo, all Khmer.

Pirate1

NanaHawk
03-18-07, 08:20
Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?Hi Gumbyy,

Cambodia has a system of colour coding that exists on car registration plates. From this you can tell the vehicles registered as military, private or NGO. I'm struggling to remember the details but am thinking that white background is 'Private', Green background is NGO and Blue is military[Can anyone else help out here?].

As PhantomTiger says, the white Land Cruiser is almost standard issue to NGO and I think you will find the more flash, 4x4 and Hummers, belonging to private individuals; the gap between the rich and the poor in Cambodia is flaunted so blatantly!

Hawk

Member #3443
03-18-07, 10:24
Yes, the military plates are blue and say RCAF on them.

Kavorka341
03-18-07, 18:14
Hey guys,

Thanks for all the good info here, I think I have almost all the information I need for my first trip to PP next month.

One thing I haven't been able to find is any information about the FCC. Foreign Correspondents Club. I have been booked to stay here by the guys I am travelling with and would like any info anybody has on location for nightlife and whether it is girl friendly etc.

Cheers

Kens14
03-18-07, 22:14
Kavorka,

the FCC is right in the middle of the Riverside cafes, restaurants & bars. In PP nothing is too far by moto. From the FCC it's about 5 mins to St51, 10 mins to St104/108 and about 10-15 mins to Martini's.

I'm not sure how GF the rooms at the FCC are, I doubt whether I would feel comfortable bringing a girl back there. Nice place though.

enjoy, enjoy,

Kens.

Matt Navan Man
03-19-07, 03:07
One thing I haven't been able to find is any information about the FCC. Foreign Correspondents Club. I have been booked to stay here by the guys I am travelling with and would like any info anybody has on location for nightlife and whether it is girl friendly etc.
Cheers

No problems whatsoever in FCC. As they are restaurant based what goes on in the room side of the business goes largely unnoticed. Well done scoring a room there - they are booked solid most of the time!

Location is good. Timings to the various haunts as per Kens below (less a couple of minutes on each journey).

Member #3443
03-23-07, 11:05
FCC is in one of the most picturesque parts of the city. Excellent location. You overlook the Tonle Sap River, food is great, beer cold, and no issues with guests. You are in walking distance of many restaurants and bars. Also within 5-15 minutes by motobike to the other bars and nighclub areas in PP. Enjoy it ! !

Traffic777
03-24-07, 12:47
Hi boys,

I heard there were some hairdressing salons in PP where you get bj to go with your haircut. Can somebody tell me where exactly are they? I saw some on St. 63 that I wasn't sure about, but it's not like I can walk in and ask "Excuse me, miss, will you blow me afterwards?"

Hope you can help, I really need a haircut :)

Xdentx
03-25-07, 02:19
I sent an e-mail to FCC via their web site regarding "joiners". They very quickly replied "I would like to inform you there is no problem for that". So indeed there is no problem bringing ladies back for an overnight.

Gonad Man
03-25-07, 11:59
Ok, so I had already read all the reports against going to St 63. But I was curious...

So I had a walk down from Sorya shopping center, to see what I might find. After about 15 mins of walking, I wasn't seeing anything interesting, so headed back on the other side. Passed a place with motos sitting around. One called out 'massage'. I asked him how much and where they were. Upstairs, $10. Fine, I'm not going to haggle.

He opens those big metal doors in front of every shop and then closes them behind me. I'm on my guard, my boxing training always present and ready, should something untoward happen. I was wearing a pouch with my $1400 camera in it too, perhaps this wasn't wise. Anyway, I'd rather have it with me, than in my hotel which anyone could get into. I sat down and looked at the available talent. 4 girls, a couple cute. Choose one, go upstairs into a seedy little room with condoms on the floor.

Clothes off, hang them on the wall next to the door. Interesting, I note how she moved mine closer to the door. Alarm bells were going off, probably should've been going off louder come to think of it. So anyway, I declined her suggestion of a massage with my face down. So i jumped on top and started plowing her. I don't know what triggered me to look behind, for there was no sound, but I did and saw a hand reaching into the room. I yelled and jumped toward the door, the hand disappeared quickly and was gone. I checked my stuff. All there. I wasn't done, but still hard. Maybe excitement like this is really my kind of thing, but I wasn't going to gamble further. I ripped the condom off and got dressed. I knew this must've been the same place that ripped Pirate1 off, so I was expecting pipe-weilding thugs to be hanging around. As it happened, no-one was around. I left, not before letting the guy know my feelings about his style of business.

I feel pretty stupid. People who run businesses like these with a crowd of girls in a squalid little shack, certainly are a little low on moral fiber. Putting yourself behind their closed doors, will very certainly lead to no good. I'm still wondering how I managed to escape with everything. Maybe it's their system, get someone in, try to steal, if there's trouble, call the heavies. My girl, just as much a victim I guess, although complicit in the whole operation, was nonetheless cute. I guess, though I didn't ask at the time given my fury, it might have been better as a take-out rather than dine-in. Either way, I'm sticking to more up-and-up establishments from now on.

Big thank you to Pirate1 and Phantomtiger2 for their reports. Without the underlying sense of insecurity that those posts gave me, I might have lost everything. For those wondering where this place was, it was on St 63 around St 174 or 178 intersections. All I can remember is the gates to the shop were light blue.

Traffic777
03-25-07, 13:21
Ok, just like Gonad and many others I have read scam reports about St. 63, but decided to go anyway today and be careful. BAD idea.

A guy at the door told me I can't go in with the camera, so I give it to my buddy along with the extra cash and go through huge metal doors. My friend waits outside. 5 girls come downstairs, I take a cutie up. She goes in the shower and in the room I put my pants with $20 on the floor where I will see them. The girl starts putting my clothes on the hooks by the door. Oh no, honey, I read ISG and know better than that!

I put them on the floor again. She asks why won't I hang them on the wall. I tell her straight up that it's becausese somebody can steal my shit this way. She goes to the "shower" (again!).

Comes back, I lock the door, I definitely lock the door and I checked whether it opens from the outside w/o a key, it doesn't. I checked whether that plywood wall had anything funny about it, but didn't find anything suspicious.

I recall she was hugging my head harder than normal, so I took the eyes off the floor. We're at it and not 1 minute goes by, I hear door shutting behind my back! I immediately jump up and my pants are gone - fucking magic! Somebody must've crawled on the floor right beside me to get them. I jump outside (and note that the button that locks the door from the inside is in the "open" position. Balls naked with a rubber on my hard-on. Nobody's there. I'm like "ok, fuck it I'm screwed, just get me my pants back, keep the money". Another girl comes up and they're both saying "after, after" and try to entice me to go back with the girl and finish the deed. I'm pissed, but calmly and firmly tell them to get me my pants back, keep the fucking money.

So finally another girl comes up and gives me my jeans, but you know what's fucking weird? THE MONEY IS STILL THERE! All $20 of it and the batteries in another pocket. We go back in the room. I was shocked, I'm like "HUH? Why didn't they take the $?", but she doesn't understand me. She tries to fuck again, but I'm too wound up, so I just leave, who knows what other scams they got up their sleeve?

So, I got 2 questions for the experts out there:

1. Why didn't they take the money?
2. If they were going to rob me from the start why did the guy tell me to not bring the camera inside?

I'm staying away from St. 63 from now on. Be safe.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.