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I'm kind of a newbie to this board (but have over 100 reviews on *** of US girls). Quick question first. At the end of the week, whould I stay at the Hilton or the Great Wall Sheraton. I know the latter has the great Passions, but its kind of pricey and supposedly the hotel itself isn't that girl-friendly. Should I stay there anyway? What about the Hilton? Anyone want to meet Friday 30 March?
So this is my first time to BJ (hence the above questions) and unfortunately soon off to the barren wasteland of Wuhan. Though haven't had any time at all to sightsee. Which is really ugly American of me, business seems to be going well so that I might be coming back more regularly.
Haven't had the opportunity to search out talent, and given my hours, out for dinner and sometimes drinks and all day meetings beginning in the morning, I have stuck with hotel service at the Crowne Plaza downtown (I know, I know, sounds like the Wuzhou location is the place to be for mongering). Still the health club is pretty mediocre, but the in-room massage is decent. Both nights I've ordered in and struggled with language and negotiation. But finally ended up with expensive but good service.
First night, girl with pretty much the biggest breasts of any Chinese girl I've been with, could have been Mongol, but she was pretty pale and more delicate features. She was slightly thicker builld (compared to other Chinese girls), but fine and did I mention the breasts? I wanted to take a pic of just the breasts, but she wasn't having it. These were a large see/small-D cup, the kind that were firm but when she lay on her back, slightly spread to each side. Great! She also gave a very firm oil massage, then a CBJ and lay on her back to let me in. I kind of expected CG, as in Korean places, but this was plenty good. Though I was still slightly drunk and jetlagges, so was quick. Price 1300 (down from 1500).
Next night, I ran into the manager in the elevator and instead of the health club, he brought me to the beauty salon to pick. And I chose a very cute little girl with nice little body. Alas, her breasts were enhance by her bra, but still very cute. She was a teaser, but spoke more english and we joked a lot and negotiated 1700 for a 2-time session with a promise that I'd only pay her 1500 if it was bad and more if it was really good. We jumped in the sack for #1 and it was good. Rubbing, tugging, CBJ and not a short missionary, then doggie. Then talking, joking, laughing, she showed me her private website (sorry guys, password protected) and then oil massage. She seemed interested in penetrating me (actually so did yesterday's girl), but I was having none of it. Then she got me hard with a HJ and seemed to want to get me off. I knew that I'd never get it up again in the hour (rare these days for 3/hr) so I insisted on getting with the main event, which she poutedly agreed. So cute. CBJ and then banging away. I simply couldn't come, but I didn't stop banging away in every position, till almost 25 minutes of non-stop pounding later (I was facing the clock), the explosion ensued. Not a word of complaint from her, took it like a champ. Yes, I tipped her. Too much? I know most will think so, but it was an investment for tonight!
Doc
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Doc
If I am not mistaken the Hilton is undergoing some major expansion or reconstruction now, so you may be able to get a better construction rate. It's only a 5 or 10 minute stroll from Passion anyway. Hilton has a trendy swish bar that has gotten some good reviews recently. Sheraton is nice too but in an early 1990's sort of way.
BTW, with the prices you seem to be willing to pay, I think you'll enjoy Passion. It's your business what you pay, and ocassionally I have paid that kind of money, but in Beijing you can get seriously fine tang for 600 to 1000 rmb.
Lao Ma:
Thanks, I knew I was overpaying for convenience, but I didn't think it was double! Perhaps, I just get too tired of the constant haggling in BJ.
Of course, I got this note after I just got serviced too, by another cute, tall, thin 'masseuse' who I could only negotiate down to 1200. Somehow, at the health club the 800 RMB I had agreed to, became 1600 in my room and finally 1200. She did give me the best massage so far, but still too much butt play, but otherwise good with no complaining about how long I was taking!
Hey Lao Ma, or anyone else, are you interested in mongering Friday 30 March?
Doc
Disaster53
03-27-07, 14:28
Sorry guys but I need your help again.
Not so long ago I asked if any of you could suggest me a cheap hotel and you gave me a lot of good info, but now, after a quick search on the net, I found out that is possible to rent an apartment at hotel prices.
Can someone suggest me a trusted agency to book with?
There are quite few on the net and I do not know the one I can trust and the one I can't.
There was one apartment suggested to me in a previous message but the adress is in chinese caratters and so I cannot find it on the net.
Any help will be aprecciated.
Member #2041
03-27-07, 16:31
I'm kind of a newbie to this board (but have over 100 reviews on *** of US girls). Quick question first. At the end of the week, whould I stay at the Hilton or the Great Wall Sheraton. I know the latter has the great Passions, but its kind of pricey and supposedly the hotel itself isn't that girl-friendly. Should I stay there anyway? What about the Hilton? Anyone want to meet Friday 30 March?
FYI, in the same general area as the Hilton and Sheraton, one can normally book the Renaissance on Priceline for $97 U.S. per night plus tax. I just dumped my Starwood points reservation with the Sheraton because I was able to get this rate with a successful Priceline bid for a 5* in the Sanlitun area in mid-April, IMHO, the Starwood points that I would have had to use to stay in the Sheraton were worth $140/night, and the rate with cash money was nearly 2000 Yuan/nt.
I also have heard that the Renaissance is more girl-friendly than the Sheraton.
After 3 days in Beijing, I don't really get what is going on here. I have been to Maggies and to Hollywood, each place twice. In both places, I had to look hard to find really good looking girls. When I finally found one the first evening, I took here out without talking details of the service, just to find out that she only gave CBJ.
Second evening, in Hollywood, I tried to be smarter, asking girls before what they do - with the result that the only 3 really attractive girls made it very clear that they would never do BBBJ. As I was a little tired anyway, I left alone.
Tonight, I went to Hollywood again, asking two of the few attractive girls the same question. With the first one, I received the same answer as the day before: "BJ no problem, but only condom." With the second one, it got worse - when I asked about blow job, she told me "no, I don't do - you need other girl". Finally, as I did not want to spend the whole night there, I just took the next good-looking one without even discussing details. Turned out that although overall she was quite good, she again rejected even a covered blow job.
What is going on here? In this city, I can drive in a taxi for an hour for just 50 RMB, but for one shot, I pay 800 RMB, and I have to get lucky to even get a CBJ? Isn't that the developing world, where things should be cheaper? In my home country (Germany), I get BBBJCIM for 75 Euro with much better looking girls... Am I doing something wrong here?
Albert Punter
03-27-07, 20:28
No need for agencies, I think you can do by yourself.
Just look into asiatravel.com or just google for "beijing & service & apartment" and you will find plenty of options.
Sorry guys but I need your help again.
Not so long ago I asked if any of you could suggest me a cheap hotel and you gave me a lot of good info, but now, after a quick search on the net, I found out that is possible to rent an apartment at hotel prices.
Can someone suggest me a trusted agency to book with?
There are quite few on the net and I do not know the one I can trust and the one I can't.
There was one apartment suggested to me in a previous message but the adress is in chinese caratters and so I cannot find it on the net.
Any help will be aprecciated.
Papi Putito
03-28-07, 19:37
Vino,
Don't despair. I know the FKK clubs in Germany are a pretty good deal, the best in the world maybe for a huge supply of white girls, all walking around in nothing but high heals. That is my only experience in Germany and I am very fond of those places. Very fond indeed! Hard to compare that with Maggies or Hollywood but they are truly different experiences. In China, these girls will go back to your hotel with you and in my experience, will always spend much more time with you and often spend the night giving you a second, third or ??? pop later.
I have found a few girls that don't give BBBJ and fewer still that won't give a BJ at all but I have also found many willing to do anything I wanted. I agree that you have to search for the ones many western men would consider hotties but they are around and come in all flavors. Over all, I prefer the experience I get in China as compared to the FKK clubs and the cost is comparable. Of course, you probably have much more knowledge of what is available in Germany than I but don't give up on china so soon.
You also need to try a Shanghai sauna. Its good to be a man in China.
Vino-try the bar in the lounge at SAS Radisson. Be patient, polite and generally unobtrusive, You may be plesantly suprised at what turns up.
I've been to a few places in the world, but I have to admit I love the FKK. The Germans make the whole thing VERY organized, what else would you expect? Though I speak some German, even my friends who only speak English, get along quite well.
But I love ALL beautiful women, and am hot for the ones I see on Chinese TV, and haven't given up on China yet!
Doc
Does anyone know of any girls that do massages in your hotel room + extras? Are there agencies for this kind of stuff. What's the price range?
Thanks!
I have always enjoyed reading various postings in this forum. Great stuff.
After nearly 4 years absence, I am finally heading to Beijing on April 18th for a couple of weeks. I was borned and raised in Beijing, but spent last 17 years in the States.
I have always kept a special relationship with my ex girlfriend in china. Everytime I go there, we hang, we bang.
I asked her about having a white guy joining us for a MFM session, and she is excited about it. She is in her early 30s, petite, cute, horny as hell, yet appear shy on the outside. (don't they all?)
PM if you are interested, maybe you can come to my hotel, (or we go to yours), have a drink or two, then let the fun begin. If you have a gf want to do a 4sum, even better.
Sebastian My
03-30-07, 01:41
After 3 days in Beijing, I don't really get what is going on here. I have been to Maggies and to Hollywood, each place twice. In both places, I had to look hard to find really good looking girls. When I finally found one the first evening, I took here out without talking details of the service, just to find out that she only gave CBJ.
What is going on here? In this city, I can drive in a taxi for an hour for just 50 RMB, but for one shot, I pay 800 RMB, and I have to get lucky to even get a CBJ? Isn't that the developing world, where things should be cheaper? In my home country (Germany), I get BBBJCIM for 75 Euro with much better looking girls... Am I doing something wrong here?
Most of the girls who speak english are educated - thus they understand herpes, clamyidia, thrush, etc. The cost of the antibiotics to resolve the curable diseases is very high - higher then the RM800 they earn. (Even treatment for Thrush sets the girls back RM400) Thus they tend to not do it. You need to find girls who are lower down the socio-economic ladder - but they typically don't speak much english. I would suggest getting a girl from the sheraton parking lot - you may have a better chance of getting a BBBJ.
For the incurable diseases - well down south i spend a lot of time making sure the girls don't have Herpes simplex-I on their lips - because they do BBBJ. So i would suggest it may be safer to cover up. As for the Russians, who do the best BJ's in town - asking for a BBBJ will probably guarentee no BJ that night - they will be scared you will force it. Most of these girls are not "professional" so tend to be very cautious.
SidTheSexist
03-30-07, 06:39
Guys,
Surely someone must have given the new russian girl who is working the den, a go? Admitedly, I havent yet, but I would certainly consider her the best looking thing thats been in the Den for a long while. The other girls just sit there with their tails between their legs. I believe her name to be Erina. Very good body, good rack, and weird kind of hair which makes her look even better IMHO. She's pretty much in there all the time. When she's drunk, she makes no doubt about what shes there for. Last night she dissapeared with a guy and was back in a very short hour.
Sid
As some of you may know, i have been contemplating this fro awhile.
Finally made the decision (the company got off a few more ducks) and I will be in Beijing end of June 2007 -2008.
Anyone on the ground in Bejing want to give a newbie some advice now and eventually meet up let me know.
Thanks,
Oreally
Sebastian My
03-31-07, 04:17
As some of you may know, i have been contemplating this fro awhile. Finally made the decision (the company got off a few more ducks) and I will be in Beijing end of June 2007 -2008. Anyone on the ground in Bejing want to give a newbie some advice now and eventually meet up let me know.
Thanks,
Oreally
If you try the monger trail - pig-hardrock-den-hollywood-maggies you will be ok by yourself. Remember never go with touts, but roaming mama-san's are ok as long as you ask for the selection only, don't walk far, pick a girl and go - don't go to any bars in this case. Also, if a pair of girls want to practice english with you, just say you are busy and walk away. Nothing is free in this world.
Superforce99
04-04-07, 07:58
I usually stay at the Wuzhou Crowne Plaza and I always knew the P4P options were expensive here, but I had no idea until I read some earlier reports...ouch. But then I guess that is Beijing in general.
The touts who used to hand out business cards outside are very spotty now, you might see them 2-3 times per week. They used to be a quick and convienent way to arrange for a gal to come to your room for 500-800 RMB ST, depending on your negotiation skills. And the girls who do come are not directly affliated with the pimps and will gladly re-negotiate to come at a later/earlier time with a lower price and cut out the original pimp, ha ha...
1314*020004
13366655*79
(missing digit for both..."the number of the Beast is 66*")
Here are the only two numbers I have for these pimps, I can't vouch for them, they are from 2 cards I got last time in Beijing and might help some desperate monger out there staying at the Crowne and doesn't want to spend in the neighborhood of 1500-2000 RMB ST for in-room service. Their English sucks but I bet you could get by with simple descriptions and clear agreement on price. I used Chinese after some initial testing of waters in English so I had no problems.
J
I went to try this but it seems that chat.tom.com is gone. I automatically redirects to bbs.tom.com, which is the forums.
Anyone know of anyplace similar?
Today as I had time to kill, I went again on www.tom.com to have a look (see my previous posts for details). I was there only to chat and decided not to go out for a SP quest, whatever the girls promise. The main reason is I have been disappointed each time before :
1- The girls are usually not the girls on the pictures
2- They say they live alone but you find at least 2 girls when you arrive
3- Their service is different from what they told you on the net
4- They may refuse to provide or overcharge the service if you are a foreigner
One Eyed Man
04-05-07, 05:03
It's been well established in the Forum (and thanks from the PMs I've received from some of you) that the Great Wall Sheraton is not girl friendly.
Does anyone have any opinions regarding any of the Starwood properties in Beijing in terms of location (close to Maggie's, etc.) and girl friendliness?
The Starwood hotels are:
* Westin Financial Street
* St. Regis
The reason I'm asking is that I have status with Starwood and get bonus points and upgrades (and want to maintain my status next year), so I'd have to throw away good points by staying at another chain's hotel.
Ontario Boy
04-05-07, 10:09
In a recent report I reviewed the Regency Sauna near Guomao ( China World) where red rope service was possibly available.
Today I went back and found the place was closed - can't tell if it was for renovation or demolition. As it is in the middle of a development zone I suspect the latter.
Typical, you find a place that you like and are comfortable with and it closes.
That's Beijing !!
St. Regis is walking distance to Maggies. Nice hotel; maybe 30% overpriced. But you are using points, so no worries. The embassy neighborhood is really pleasant to walk around in duing the springtime - quiet, nice greenery.
Cannot vouch for the girl-friendliness of the place - its pretty high brow clientelle
OldAsiaHand
04-05-07, 14:37
My experience is dated, but it was not girl friendly when I stayed there a couple of years ago. We had to bring the girls up from the side entrance on the left end of the building as you are facing the hotel. The rooms were nice but a little dark. May have been the furniture.
Just my POV
OAH
St. Regis is walking distance to Maggies. Nice hotel; maybe 30% overpriced. But you are using points, so no worries. The embassy neighborhood is really pleasant to walk around in duing the springtime - quiet, nice greenery.
Cannot vouch for the girl-friendliness of the place - its pretty high brow clientelle
Stayed at Swissotel and was feeling lazy to go out. Found Lily Massage in the Yellow pages and called up. The mamasan speaks good english. The girl arrived in 30 minutes to my room. The massage is just a front - the action started from the time the girl walked into the room. She was a 6 to 7 in looks and body but was very responsive in action (she did not speak a word of english although the mamasan said she could speak a bit). Did a nice slow CBJ and did another BBBj in the shower. She was wet all the time but extremely tight so the first part of banging her started slow. Overall it was a good experience with a total cost of RMB 1200.
I have stayed several times at the St Regis recently and had no trouble bringing in a girl at all though I did use the side entrance by the Sizzlers to avoid any problem.
One time one of my Mongolian girlfirends was escorted up to my room by one of the butlers and I had no problem at all with Chinese girls from CWTC either. It is much easier than the Sheraton where I used to stay until they started stopping me from taking girls up to my room.
Love Sex 22
04-06-07, 06:21
Stayed in Jinglun Hotel 5 nights . After one hour of checking in some one inserted a card for a massage under the door , I didn't even call them because i remember from my last visit that out side around the hotel the lady pimps offering girls . I went out around 10 PM and this girl approached me and ask if i need a sex massage , I said i am looking for a young and beautiful girl for all night she asked for 1000 rmb and i said 700 RMB we agreed on 700 . She asked me for my room # and said she would send the girl to my room .She said if you don't like the girl i will send you another one . After about 20 minutes knock in my door and 3 girls showed up.
i picked the one that i liked she was about 20 years old and really nice , but hardly spoke a word of English but the sex was great .The only draw back that the mama sun wanted the money up front that i refused first but she told me in the phone just pay her 400 now and the rest in the morning because i don't know you , and from tomorrow you don't need to do that . I didn't want to loose that sweet girl so i agreed even it was against my policy , but every thing worked out well .
she sent me new girls every night to my room and it was great experience . I really wanted to go to maggys because i never been there but maybe next time .
Stayed in Jinglun Hotel 5 nights. After one hour of checking in some one inserted a card for a massage under the door, I didn't even call them because I remember from my last visit that out side around the hotel the lady pimps offering girls. I went out around 10 PM and this girl approached me and ask if I need a sex massage, I said I am looking for a young and beautiful girl for all night she asked for 1000 rmb and I said 700 RMB we agreed on 700. She asked me for my room # and said she would send the girl to my room. She said if you don't like the girl I will send you another one. After about 20 minutes knock in my door and 3 girls showed up.
I picked the one that I liked she was about 20 years old and really nice, but hardly spoke a word of English but the sex was great. The only draw back that the mama sun wanted the money up front that I refused first but she told me in the phone just pay her 400 now and the rest in the morning because I don't know you, and from tomorrow you don't need to do that. I didn't want to loose that sweet girl so I agreed even it was against my policy, but every thing worked out well. She sent me new girls every night to my room and it was great experience. I really wanted to go to maggys because I never been there but maybe next time. Hi Love Sex 22,
I will be in Beijing sometime mid April 07, can PM me mama sun name and contact no? Thank you.
Typical Tourist
04-07-07, 16:13
Sorry to bother you guys. Does anyone know if Howard Johnson Paragon on Jianguomen (lu/jie/dao?) is girl-friendly? I searched the thread, but could find only one comment by someone who visited the KTV there. Appreciate any help you can give.
Member #3421
04-08-07, 02:11
I'm a Newbie to the Beijing board, with my first visit scheduled for the summer. I've made minor contributions on the Prague and Vienna boards, with most of my "activity" being back on USG.
Partly as a service to this community, partly to prove I'm not a LAZY WANKER, I'm working on a series of "cliff notes" from my research. I started at the beginning of the thread, realized that some of the info was dated and that there were too many pages for this approach. More recently, I started working backwards, and did some searches based on topics that interested me.
Anything I post in my cliffnotes is intended to guide conversation and give attention to what (in my humble opinion) were particularly deserving posts. I apologize for errors or omissions.
I'm sure I'll have questions down the line, and I'm sure the regular members will make helpful comments to supplement this little list of mine. Thanks in advance.
Painfully Obvious Observation #1. Sammy T and Intransit rock, with more than a few others deserving mention in the same paragraph. Albert Punter? I'm going to risk offending a few by exclusion (Hello23 from many older posts, for example), but c'est la vie. Do you realize that Sammy T has a mere 149 (and slowly counting) posts, most of which are substantial? I'm not talking "dude, I agree, she rocked!" So, at the risk of getting my nose even browner than it is, but let's face it -- reports of substance, with thought and integrity, will keep this board hopping.
Which brings me to:
----- Installment #1 of Newbeijingguy's cliffnotes. -----
Don't read further without reading Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=571272&postcount=5152
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- Topic #1. Afternoon mongering.
Not all of us can stay up until the wee hours at Maggies, and the potential late-night hotel difficulties lurks in the back of my mine. Here's a few thoughtful posts that caught my eye:
Post #1. Hello2003 on an afternoon with a Passions girl. I can already see that as soon as I arrive in Beijing, I'll need to buy a SIM for my cell phone so I can start storing numbers as the opportunities arise.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=542021&highlight=afternoon#post542021
Post #2. Sammy_T's report on daytime fun with colleagues at a sauna, including a meal. Now, I wish I had colleagues like that! Maybe I can connect with one of you guys during my visit.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=562030&postcount=5072
Post #3. Xingjiao's post, where the theme was partly "afternoon mongering has its charms".
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=467856&highlight=safety#post467856
NBG
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Sorry to bother you guys. Does anyone know if Howard Johnson Paragon on Jianguomen (lu/jie/dao?) is girl-friendly? I searched the thread, but could find only one comment by someone who visited the KTV there. Appreciate any help you can give.Last time (late 2006) I went, mamasan told my friend that he can take a KTV girl to a hotel room and the room fee was rmb 600. I think the hotel should be girl-friendly.
Vino-try the bar in the lounge at SAS Radisson. Be patient, polite and generally unobtrusive, You may be plesantly suprised at what turns up.
Econ Man,
Went to the SAS Radisson Saturday night (arrived close to 10 p.m.). Stayed for an hour in the lounge, and took a look in the bar (both on the first floor). There were many hotel guests in the lounge and bar, but little else (and Singapore Airlines flight attendants on their way to the airport). Was I too early/not patient enough? What should I be looking for?
Thanks
Last time (late 2006) I went, mamasan told my friend that he can take a KTV girl to a hotel room and the room fee was rmb 600. I think the hotel should be girl-friendly.
Absolutely girl friendly. I have been there many time and NEVER have had anyone stop or question me.
ES
Hi
I've just returned home after being in Beijing.
Here is my trip report.
I will say that this is my findings and based on not ever being in China before or speaking any Chinese.
So you may have a different view and better time than me.
Let me start by saying that I underestimated how hard it would be to travel to Beijing with no knowledge of Chinese.
There are some simple things I would do differently and this would make a big difference if I go back.
The main problem is that very few people speak english and every taxi I took spoke no english.
That left me in a postion where I could not get about by myself or even go and get something to eat.
Even in Macdonalds I had to point to pictures to order something.
So for anyone esle wanting to go, let me give you a quick survival guide, that will work.
1. Phrase book with Chinese characters, as you will have to point and show words.
2. Camera Phone, so you can take pictures of things like a hotel or shop and then show this to people and the taxi.
3. Street map in Chinese and have places of interest marked out, so you can show people and they can understand (I had an english map which was no good)
4. Collect the Chinese names of where you want to go, as they are not transaltions of the english name, so if you say Holiday Inn Hotel, you will get no where.
5. Get a local GSM SIM at the airport with EXTRA credit, (as how will you buy more after) this will save money.
6. If you have a Pocket PC phone, then you can get the Dictionary, camera and phone and have less to carry about.
Anyway back to the report.
I stayed at the New world Apartments ($60 per night) pleasent enough, but nothing 5 star (but I would stay again as good location and lots of modern shops) As it was an aprtment the Girls had no procedure to go through, so great for me.
During my time I only went to 2 places. The Pig and Maggies.
Let me start with a warning:
I found a Thai ladyboy in Maggies who got upset when I said that "IT" had a Thai accent and features.
I did not have to look too hard to see it was a LadyBoy.
So every evening for me started at around 22: 00 at the pig which is about 15 mins from my apartment.
It has a few Chinese and a lot more Mongolian.
Its a small place, around 50 people would fill it up, but I nice friendly atmosphere in the Lido hotel (Lee Doo for the taxi)
From here I took a Mongolian for RMB 800 (may be too much, but I was not sure) Good GFE and well spoken, BBBJ etc.
The next day I started at the Pig but wanted to go to maggies.
I mentioned this to a few girls at the Pig who said If I go, they will come with me as I would then pay for the taxi (about 0 mins from the Pig).
This was ok for me as they would know where to go and Taxis are very cheap. I tried to tell the Taxi driver "Maggies" and he did not understand!
Maggies is a disco as against a bar and inside I found all the working girls are Mongolian all the Chinese are there to sell yuo drinks or make you buy them. It was a god atmosphere, but as it is a long bar, you will find that you end up in one place and not able to easily see what is at the other end of the room.
The quality is very good, but that also means that they can reject you (or at least me)
Rates here I found were around RMB 900. 1000.
Experience was again good, but I did find that one evening when I took one of the better looking ones I got a lesser experience, wanted me to finish quickly then wanted to sleep etc.
So after that I tended to go with ones that were cute and talked well.
The surprise for me on this trip was that I came to China, for Chinese girls, but found very few in the Pig, none and Maggies and the Mongolian girls were much much better looking, In fact I did not have a Chinese girl at all in my entire stay.
Maybe I'll add a part two to this, but wanted to get something down quick, before I forget.
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Member #3421
04-09-07, 03:32
Hi
I've just returned home after being in Beijing.
Here is my trip report.
I will say that this is my findings and based on not ever being in China before or speaking any Chinese.
So you may have a different view and better time than me.
Let me start by saying that I underestimated how hard it would be to travel to Beijing with no knowledge of Chinese.Thank you for this report, which I placed in the "distinction" area as Jackson requested. My first reaction was "holy crap, what am I in for?" My second reaction was "wait a minute, it can't possibly be that bad." I'm guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle and would be interested in the experiences of other non-Chinese-speakers visiting Beijing.
Many of these tips are quite good (some appear elsewhere in the thread but should probably be repeated frequently). For instance, some of the members have previously attempted to post "business cards" of useful places, which would obviously be helpful with taxi drivers. If any of you guys in Beijing happen to get hotel business cards, please post them. The more the merrier!
However,
0. Chinese street map: great idea. In fact, I'm thinking one in Chinese, and one as similar as possible in English.
1. I have no intention of staying in the hotel. I'd rather walk around, get lost, and have to bail out, getting a taxi or doing whatever it takes to find some notable, easily described landmark. Tiananmen Square, for example? Then take it from there once back on familiar territory. Life should be an adventure!
2. I intend to avoid MacDonalds as long as possible.
3. Come on, saying "IT" would offend many people in most countries around the world. I'm not sure what the point of that warning was. Is there some significance to TS in TSLondon, or is that a wild coincidence? I tend to think it's a coincidence, given your choice to use "IT" in public. So I think I'm trying to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you (translation: make fun of you in a good-natured way, no offense intended).
4. I like your take that going with the ones that were "cute and talked well" is probably the way to go. Again, probably true in most places, not unique to China.
My apologies, this isn't a report, just a collection of random thoughts based on TSLondon's report. I'm more interested in hearing how others have managed as non-Chinese-speakers in Beijing.
NBG
Dear All ,
I will be transit in Shanghai for one night,so not much time to search around. Therefore try to find a good hotel with a lot of extra activities.
The forum did mentioned Shanghai Hotel ? Is there any other recommendation?
Thanks in advance.
Cheer
I went to Korea back in 1998 for the first time.
Damned if those people there only spoke korean ! No one spoke english !
I was surprised. It was difficult to get around
1. i have no intention of staying in the hotel. i'd rather walk around, get lost, and have to bail out, getting a taxi or doing whatever it takes to find some notable, easily described landmark. tiananmen square, for example? then take it from there once back on familiar territory. life should be an adventure!
2. i intend to avoid macdonalds as long as possible.
3. come on, saying "it" would offend many people in most countries around the world. i'm not sure what the point of that warning was. is there some significance to ts in tslondon, or is that a wild coincidence? i tend to think it's a coincidence, given your choice to use "it" in public. so i think i'm trying to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you (translation: make fun of you in a good-natured way, no offense intended).
hi,
just to be clear, as i do not want to offend.
the single thread format of this site, makes it difficult to find information and related posts ie, this reply will be some posts after the reply to my post.
the biz cards would make a good "sticky" and then it is there as a reference and not a post in rep001tered in am larger thread.
(but i know im not the 1st to say this and the pros outweigh the cons)
finding a landmark is a good idea, but saying the english name, will get you now where, even the chinese / english translation was no good as the accent was so far out.
i tried saying "ritan" and "lee doo fian dian" and got no where.
also beijing is a big place and even though i was near tiananmen square, you would still need a taxi and then at least learn "left, right straight, go back...."
a camera phone picture of tiananmen square would solve that in one hit.
the ladyboy.
i only said "it" here in this group.
to the person (he she) i said where are "you" from?
are "you" from thailand?
"you" have a thai accent.....
this ladyboy was trying to pass it self off as a woman.
but don't get me wrong, i did enjoy myself and if the oportunity presents itself, i would go again and be prepared.
I agree Beijing is a more difficult mongering destination since the language is a bigger barrier there. It is the only place I can think of where many taxi drivers don't understand the word "hotel". I would not recommend an apartment for a first time visitor because of this. In a hotel you can ask the front desk to write the name of your destination on a business card. Then just hand it to the taxi driver.
Beijing is an exotic city with great places to visit as a tourist. Potential language problems should be anticipated, but it shouldn't stop any of us from visiting.
Thanks for your report.
Fast Eddie 48
04-09-07, 16:50
I went to Korea back in 1998 for the first time.
Damned if those people there only spoke korean ! No one spoke english !
I was surprised. It was difficult to get around
to Lao ma
Do you mean south korea not north korea , if you go to Seoul today many people speak some english south korea have change the last 10 yr many people are well educated . I think you will have a easier time there than in bejing .
fast eddie 48
Traveler1234
04-09-07, 17:00
to Lao ma
Do you mean south korea not north korea , if you go to Seoul today many people speak some english south korea have change the last 10 yr many people are well educated . I think you will have a easier time there than in bejing .
fast eddie 48
English is a difficult language for Koreans to master, don't know why, just know it's hard for them to learn how to speak. Taxi understand hotels but not much else; and while English better than in Beijing, don't expect to get around easily without having a lot of hand written notes re where to go, etc.
From reading the board, i think Seoul prices for BBS are also higher...no personal experience for comparison??
English is a difficult language for Koreans to master, don't know why, just know it's hard for them to learn how to speak. Taxi understand hotels but not much else; and while English better than in Beijing, don't expect to get around easily without having a lot of hand written notes re where to go, etc.
From reading the board, i think Seoul prices for BBS are also higher...no personal experience for comparison??
English is difficult for them because grammatical patterns and phonics are very different than Korean. That said, almost everybody under the age 35 can speak basic English. One reason Korea it's easier than most other Asian countries is that things don't change their name in Korea. For instance, in China, they call Starbucks by the Chinese name, Xing ba, in Korea, they call it Starbucks. The same goes for everything else. A Red Bull is a Red Bull and not Hong Niu.
Traveler1234
04-09-07, 17:23
That said, almost everybody under the age 35 can speak basic English.
From my experience, 'basic' is being complimentary :)
Most companies I deal with have at least one junior exec, fresh out of school usually who does nothing else but translate for the senior guys :(
Hi Fast Eddie
My last post was written in sarcasm. I read a post about being frustrated that chinese people speak chinese, and taxi drivers not understanding english, and it makes me roll me eyes :)
Member #3421
04-10-07, 02:37
Thanks, London, for the clarification. I took "IT" out of context, my bad. I'm already trying to figure out whether my cell phone is "unlocked" and will be receptive to a SIM card immediately upon arrival. And it has a camera, so I'll start snapping pictures and collecting business cards as quickly as possible. Good tips.
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Anything I post in my cliffnotes is intended to guide conversation and give attention to what (in my humble opinion) were particularly deserving or interesting posts for one reason or another. I apologize for errors or omissions. Don't read further without reading Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing. I posted this advice before, and will do so again until someone manages to top Sammy's work. Yeah, right!
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- Topic #2. Safety, scams, etc...
In a nutshell: don't get lured into bars for high-priced drinks and chat with girls. Don't follow men (particularly, but I suppose the same caution should be taken in general) to someplace (e.g. a dark basement) where there will be lots of beautiful girls. Duh. Back when I was young-20s, I got nailed on this in London, and counted myself lucky to get away with all my ID and credit cards, only 50 pounds lighter in the wallet. Can happen anywhere, not just Beijing.
Post #1. Maybe a scam, maybe not, but a possibility for us all to be aware of. See the Maggies reference, too.
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Post #2. Funinchina.com: stay away unless you need a tour guide or translator? This is an old 2002 post, and the site seems to be a collection of links now, rather than anything real. However, it might be interesting to get together a little collection of web sites that people have had luck with (or not).
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Posts #3-5. Dealing with police? This could be an interesting topic to discuss, as a "just in case...". I wonder how many guys have had real problems with police? The second post brings up the possibly getting stopped travelling at night with a Chinese girl? And, of course, the hotel access topic, which seems to be discussed about every week in this forum. Best to search on the hotel name if you have questions.
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Post #6. Word of advice: when someone offers to take you someplace, avoid it (2002 post by Dick Johnson). I think he was lucky to get away as he did!
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Post #7. Health cautions (not specific to China, though perhaps some places CBJ is the default, BBBJ unusual, and I gather this isn't true in China). Note the credit due to Intransit in the post re: safety and different types of girls and their willingness.
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Posts #8-10. Art student scam. The first post because it's such a great post (lots of other things discussed) by Hello2003 with a nice little warning about the student scam. The second (and related posts immediately adjacent) about this scam. The third, by Sebastian My, is a little goldmine with nuggests of wisdom. It quotes a Badboy27 post that also talks about "English Practice" scams. This hits home with me because I've recently tried making a few connections over the internet with girls supposedly interested in language exchange, or tour guide work, etc... and I realize I need to be really careful. Sort of partway between a freebie and a WG. I've gotten the feeling that 3/4 of them are fishing, and 1/4 seem pretty sincere. I worry about this latter 1/4 because the last thing I need is a clingy GF. I may just give it up. Impossible to know how much time I'm wasting or which might be a real risk, even if one or two might pay off.
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A question: I would think that it's wise to leave the passport/visa locked in the hotel safe, and carry photocopies around town? A variant on this question: I may have a business location, but then take off and check into another hotel now and then for fun (business location is not discreet). Is the original passport/visa a requirement for hotel check-in, or is any photoid (US drivers license) good enough? Or copies of passport/visa? I don't remember reading this anywhere.
NBG
Ace Gallant
04-10-07, 05:59
From my experience, 'basic' is being complimentary :)
Most companies I deal with have at least one junior exec, fresh out of school usually who does nothing else but translate for the senior guys :(
Excuse me for putting my head into this, if I am not wrong, English is one of the compulsory language in Japan, Korea and China hugh school.
All of them learnt the language understand basic English however a lot chose not to practice or use it. Before they knows it, they lost it!
Enjoy.
AG
Seoul is becoming an English friendly city, especially when compared with Beijing. Its very easy to get around town as the modern subway system has signs in English. And younger people know a little bit of English, too.
The biggest problem with the English language in Seoul is that none of the hotter girls in the Red Light Districts will do white men.
P.S. In no way do I mean to criticize a country where English is not widely spoken. I don't fly to the other side of the world looking for McDonald's and English speakers.
Don't read further without reading Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing. I posted this advice before, and will do so again until someone manages to top Sammy's work. Yeah, right!
Thanks! I am here to help! I like your clift's notes version of the forum. It certainly highlights the gems that are worth re-reading for both information and enjoyment!
A question: I would think that it's wise to leave the passport/visa locked in the hotel safe, and carry photocopies around town? A variant on this question: I may have a business location, but then take off and check into another hotel now and then for fun (business location is not discreet). Is the original passport/visa a requirement for hotel check-in, or is any photoid (US drivers license) good enough? Or copies of passport/visa? I don't remember reading this anywhere.NBG
I think it is a good idea to carry a copy of your passport rather than the real thing. I have checked into a hotel before with just a copy, but in addition to your photo page and visa page you need to be sure and also copy the page that has your entry "stamp" on it. The hotel needs to know the date of your arrival in China for their paperwork. I have actually checked into hotels without any documentation, but that is always a big hassle. I guess you could always give the money to the girl for the room and have her register it in her name.
When is your expected arival in Beijing?
SidTheSexist
04-10-07, 11:04
Guys, Come on! Lao Ma was joking. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=249
Member #3421
04-10-07, 13:47
I have checked into a hotel before with just a copy, but in addition to your photo page and visa page you need to be sure and also copy the page that has your entry "stamp" on it.
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When is your expected arival in Beijing?That extra page of photocopying may save me several hours of trouble. Thank you!
I arrive in late July, but it will probably be into August before I'll be able to shake free and get down to the business of fun. But I'll be there for over a month (barring unforseen circumstances). Plan of attack: learn the lay of the land even before I can start to partake. Visit and scope out the well-documented destinations, the hotels I've already booked for weekends away from work, and collect business cards and snap pictures. Confidence and comfort is everything in this game.
NBG
I went to Korea back in 1998 for the first time.
Damned if those people there only spoke korean ! No one spoke english !
I was surprised. It was difficult to get aroundI've always tried to learn a few phrases of the local tongue prior to my arrival or during my stay in a foreign country. I've often found that if they think you know some of the language, they'll be less likely to steal from you.
Better luck next time.
Guinness
Excuse me for putting my head into this, if I am not wrong, English is one of the compulsory language in Japan, Korea and China hugh school.
All of them learnt the language understand basic English however a lot chose not to practice or use it. Before they knows it, they lost it!
Enjoy,
AGElementary school students are learning English now in Korea.
Fast Eddie 48
04-10-07, 22:36
Hi Fast Eddie
My last post was written in sarcasm. I read a post about being frustrated that chinese people speak chinese, and taxi drivers not understanding english, and it makes me roll me eyes :)
to lao ma
You are lucky if taxi driver in Bejing even know where to go , most taxi driver in big city are new from small town outside of the area and don't know most of the street , I have been on a taxi in Shanghai or Shenzhen I know the city better than they do and I speak good mandarin and fluent cantonese , I think you Lao wai will be in trouble next yr 2008 olympic so learn some mandarin.
fast eddie 48
I am a long time watcher but rare poster. I have a general question I'd like to put out there first, and then some notes about Beijing.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. Anyway---just looking for more discussion, info about these types of spots. There are old posts but I think many are out of date in this fast-changing market.
Notes:
A couple of brief notes that answer some questions posted in here and may give others some helpful info.
Six Club: Total disappointment. This place (in Jian Wai SOHO) does not seem to offer anything more than straight up massage (unless I missed something huge). I went around the new year's holidays and ended up paying more than 600 for what I thought must be an oil massage plus...and ended up being an oil massage where I wasn't even allowed to remove my shorts----? Very weird.
A Sauna: Ok, this seems to be a standard place for cab drivers to take you to if you ask for a bathhouse really late at night. I am sorry to say that I am always drunk/exhausted when I end up there and I truly can't remember the name. All I know is that the middle character in the 3 character name is "long" (dragon). Anyway, this place is highly variable but generally crappy. In one visit, the girl looked good, but would not stop trying to convince me to pay 1500 for FS (which she said she wasn't allowed to do there but would with me because she liked me. Yeah, right). It got to be really obnoxious, then on top of it all she tried to add in an additional 300 for a tip which hadn't been mentioned at all to begin with. I refused to pay this, we ended up at the desk with me asking to see a manager and no managers would come out. I finally paid the originally agreed upon price and left. The next time I went there the girl was not as good looking but much more chill. Ended up sticking with a full oil massage and an HJ for a few hundred.
Another Sauna: I've got to start writing down the names of these places. This one is on Guang Qu Lu. Just head east from the third ring and you'll get there in just a few minutes. It's huge and on the right. This place has some very cute girls and the regular sauna routine. Straight, quick FS with no BJ or extras is 488, throw in some body to body oil rubbing and a CBJ (or BBBJ if you can convince her) and pay 688, add in a tongue bath (which may or may not be delivered) and pay 888. Some nice kissing from one girl here. One came to my apartment another day for a mere 300, another wanted some crazy amount and wouldn't bargain.
I'll try to add in the names of these places when I get them. Finally, anyone have info on Chongqing Fan Dian (Chongqing Hotel) or Da Du Hui (another sauna)---these also seem to be in the repertoire of places taxi drivers know.
Be safe. Be nice. Good luck.
SidTheSexist
04-11-07, 04:01
I think you Lao wai will be in trouble next yr 2008 olympic so learn some mandarin.fast eddie 48Its unbelievable how much trouble we're/they're going to be in! And even more unbelievable how much they (chinese) dont seem to care.
Sid (suffering post thailand blues)
I am a long time watcher but rare poster. I have a general question I'd like to put out there first, and then some notes about Beijing.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. Anyway---just looking for more discussion, info about these types of spots. There are old posts but I think many are out of date in this fast-changing market.
Notes: A couple of brief notes that answer some questions posted in here and may give others some helpful info.
Six Club: Total disappointment. This place (in Jian Wai SOHO) does not seem to offer anything more than straight up massage (unless I missed something huge). I went around the new year's holidays and ended up paying more than 600 for what I thought must be an oil massage plus. And ended up being an oil massage where I wasn't even allowed to remove my shorts----? Very weird.
A Sauna: Ok, this seems to be a standard place for cab drivers to take you to if you ask for a bathhouse really late at night. I am sorry to say that I am always drunk/exhausted when I end up there and I truly can't remember the name. All I know is that the middle character in the 3 character name is "long" (dragon). Anyway, this place is highly variable but generally crappy. In one visit, the girl looked good, but would not stop trying to convince me to pay 1500 for FS (which she said she wasn't allowed to do there but would with me because she liked me. Yeah, right). It got to be really obnoxious, then on top of it all she tried to add in an additional 300 for a tip which hadn't been mentioned at all to begin with. I refused to pay this, we ended up at the desk with me asking to see a manager and no managers would come out. I finally paid the originally agreed upon price and left. The next time I went there the girl was not as good looking but much more chill. Ended up sticking with a full oil massage and an HJ for a few hundred.
Another Sauna: I've got to start writing down the names of these places. This one is on Guang Qu Lu. Just head east from the third ring and you'll get there in just a few minutes. It's huge and on the right. This place has some very cute girls and the regular sauna routine. Straight, quick FS with no BJ or extras is 488, throw in some body to body oil rubbing and a CBJ (or BBBJ if you can convince her) and pay 688, add in a tongue bath (which may or may not be delivered) and pay 888. Some nice kissing from one girl here. One came to my apartment another day for a mere 300, another wanted some crazy amount and wouldn't bargain.
I'll try to add in the names of these places when I get them. Finally, anyone have info on Chongqing Fan Dian (Chongqing Hotel) or Da Du Hui (another sauna)---these also seem to be in the repertoire of places taxi drivers know.
Be safe. Be nice. Good luck.
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Wow, this discussion about the English language and its use in China is so enthralling that I may never want to nail a Mongolian woman ever again! Can we please get back to the topic?
Yours truly fought off the urge to take one of any of four Mongolian hotties from the Cathedral last night (Lent is over! Yay!). Willpower...failing...blood flowing to extremities...I think the spring mating season is nigh, not to mention that Intransit will likely have to add seven new experiences to the forum in celebration of his upcoming 700th post.
Hey Fast Eddie
What's up with you attacking me ? WTF is your problem ? I lived in BJ for years and years and now I live in Shanghai. My chinese is just fine, thank you. Point me to a post where I have attacked chinese people, or deserve to be mocked by you and I'll apologize. Until then, fu$# off.
Hey Fast Eddie
What's up with you attacking me ? WTF is your problem ? I lived in BJ for years and years and now I live in Shanghai. My chinese is just fine, thank you. Point me to a post where I have attacked chinese people, or deserve to be mocked by you and I'll apologize. Until then, fu$# off.I don't think Fast Eddie has a problem with your Chinese speaking skills. Rather, he seems to be taking issue with you being a taxi driver from a small village. You've got nothing to be ashamed of, we all put our pants on one leg at a time.
Guinness
Typical Tourist
04-12-07, 01:19
Asbguy and Eaglestar, thanks for the reply. Hope I have something to report soon!
Absolutely girl friendly. I have been there many time and NEVER have had anyone stop or question me.
ES
I have always enjoyed reading various postings in this forum. Great stuff.
After nearly 4 years absence, I am finally heading to Beijing on April 18th for a couple of weeks. I was borned and raised in Beijing, but spent last 17 years in the States.
I have always kept a special relationship with my ex girlfriend in china. Everytime I go there, we hang, we bang.
I asked her about having a white guy joining us for a MFM session, and she is excited about it. She is in her early 30s, petite, cute, horny as hell, yet appear shy on the outside. (don't they all?)
PM if you are interested, maybe you can come to my hotel, (or we go to yours), have a drink or two, then let the fun begin. If you have a gf want to do a 4sum, even better.Hi Luster,
I would like to join your MFM session but I have never done this before. I don't know if this will work for me or us. I came here to Beijing 6 weeks ago and will stay for 1 year to learn Mandarin. I don't have sex for more than 1 month so I'm quite horny and ready to try almost everything. It is so hard to get sex without knowledge in speaking mandarin and not staying in a hotel downtown.
I'm 29, but I'm not a white guy. I do not look like Brad Pitt but also not like Dr. Frankenstein. My father is chinese and my mother is vietnamese. I grow up in Europe and do speak German and English as well. Do you look for a white guy only? I'm glad when I can join your session or we can also go out to have some fun together.
Be safe. Be nice. Good luck.
Ontario Boy
04-13-07, 18:42
To night I was out walking and found a large sauna in the Yabao Lu ( Russian Street) area to the north and west of Ritan park. It was a largish building and had three large signs on the roof, Sauna in English, Russian and Chinese. There was also a sign out front with some english and I think I read " Golden ...."- something. It appears to have been there for a while. There are lots of Russian stores and restaurants in the immediate area.
I did a search on the Beijing Forum but was unable to find anything about it. As it is in the Russian area I was a little leery about going in on my own . Has anone anything to report on facilities, costs and type of girls?
thank you
Lustforthrust
04-14-07, 11:11
but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.
I am a long time watcher but rare poster. I have a general question I'd like to put out there first, and then some notes about Beijing.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. [/blue][/size]I've not known takeout to be an option, but in Beijing anything is possible.
As for services beyond HJ, you just need to try some more BBS. I was recently in Beijing and by wandering around the neighborhood of my hotel I found 5 BBS. At 3 of them I got HJ, with my hands on bare breasts, and with their pantyhose down and my fingers in both their front and back sides. At the fourth one I was offered the opportunity to put the little bot between her thighs (but no penetration). At the fifth I was offered BBBJ and FS.
There's another BBS I know of not too far from Wanfujing where I've always been able to get FS, and occasionally anal, depending on the girl.
So there is more than HJ out there, it just takes some trying places out.
Hi,
Finding a landmark is a good idea, but saying the english name, will get you now where, even the Chinese / english translation was no good as the accent was so far out.
I tried saying "Ritan" and "Lee Doo Fian Dian" and got no where.Certainly knowing some Chinese is useful, but one option is to use the internet. For example: go to the Lido hotel's website, and click on the flag of China. That will take you to their page in Chinese. Print it out, and show it to the cab driver.
I've used this technique to get to many places in Beijing despite my deplorable Chinese language skills.
To night I was out walking and found a large sauna in the Yabao Lu ( Russian Street) area to the north and west of Ritan park. It was a largish building and had three large signs on the roof, Sauna in English, Russian and Chinese. There was also a sign out front with some english and I think I read " Golden ...."- something. It appears to have been there for a while. There are lots of Russian stores and restaurants in the immediate are.
I did a search on the Beijing Forum but was unable to find anything about it. As it is in the Russian area I was a little leary about going in on my own . Has anone anything to report on facilities, costs and type of girls.
thank youOntario Boy,
I lived in that area for a while last year. It was some time before I discovered the sauna, and was fascinated by its size. It's big as you know, and right in the Russian area. I have had unfortunate meetings with Russians and generally avoid, so I didn't sample the sweeties, but I can say it stays open until well after midnight, having walked past it on my way home on several occasions.
A continual irritation in that area for any white-skinned person is the horde of bicycle taxis. Drivers will always hail you with 'hunda, biackerley' and expect business. I don't know what hunda biackerley means, but I guess it must be Russian. These guys could take you to xiaojie if you wished but I wouldn't trust them. Yabaolu itself, where they gather in the late afternoons looking for work, is a dodgy area at times, where you could get pick-pocketed if you are not careful. This only applies to Yabaolu, the rest of the area is very safe.
Within a quarter mile of that sauna I found about 9 or 10 bbs, quality varied from a top of 8 down to 5, with more at the lower end. There was also one place which had Russian women, if you like them.
If you stand in front of the sauna, then turn left and walk on to the nearest road and then turn right you should see a couple of bbs ahead of you on a tree-lined street branching off to the right. This is a pleasant place to do on-street shopping, but I can't vouch for the quality of the goods in the bbs. The girls always looked very bored. Some looked young and inexperienced, others looked like seasoned pros, the mamasans I guess.
At the back of this street and heading north to Chaoyangmen ditie and the foreign ministry is a residential area called San Feng Li. It's a quiet, safe area, with a couple of bbs and independent girl suppliers working out of whatever room with a roof they can get. One bbs in there continually had good quality girls. The independents would set up alone, sometimes in condemned rooms, and I guess they were providing a cheap hand-job service to the temporary construction site workers who worked round the clock on several large sites close by. They lived 8-10 to a room and I suspect they also had their beds on a shift basis. A HJ from a xiaojie would be one of their few luxuries.
Good luck with the sauna if you choose to go!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Tallguy2004
04-14-07, 20:38
Have any of you heard of InterLingvo dot com? I signed up because one girl sent me there for translation. It has some incredible women's profiles and they keep writing to me, but you must pay for the correspondence service.
Ripoff or legit?
If there is a more gracious and generous host in Beijing than our brother Sammy T, I have certainly not met him. Saturday at his kind behest, I had the opportunity to try the Chun Xiu Lu sauna, also known as the Ou Lu Jian Kang Hui Suo.
For those who've been to red rope saunas in Shanghai, this sauna pales in comparison. There's nothing wrong with it, but it is smaller and less opulent. Actually the sauna rooms are quite nice, and there are a variety of them. Connoisseur that he is, Sammy insisted upon us having the VIP room, but someone has booked it for a month, and as such, was not available.
Sammy's eye for quality and his demand for it ultimately resulted in him wanting to change venues. I give him real credit for that--it's not easy to turn down a bunch of girls when you're already in the room and decide that you're going to leave.
However, Intransit chose to accept our brother's hospitality and selected #820, a Harbin girl with average height. When we saw the original afternoon line-up, which included a total of five girls--one who looked downright terrified--#820 stood out as the best looking. Undressed, she has quite a nice body and a butterfly tattoo on her right breast.
I had an evening appointment and therefore didn't have the full 80 minutes to enjoy the full massage/body lick/baby powder body rub/blow/etc., so she gave me an abbreviated version of each. Service was very satisfactory, and as it ends a long Intransit dry spell, it was about time. Because the sauna is walking distance to one of my favorite hangouts, it will now be added to regular rotation.
If the sauna visit taught Intransit anything, it is that the de facto leader of the Beijing board is Sammy T, without doubt. His informative reports, his eye for quality, but more than anything, his generosity as a friend and fellow hobbyist are are unmatched.
Newbies, if you wish to study at the foot of the master, his name is Sammy T.
Ace Gallant
04-15-07, 09:34
If there is a more gracious and generous host in Beijing than our brother Sammy T
I cannot agree with you more. Mock-A-Bee and I was up in Beijing the last few days, met up with Sammy T. He proves to be a great host and 100% fun guy to hang around with.
Unfortunately I did not get a chance to PM you , Intransit in advance but will certainly look you up when I come back up to Beijing soon. I am back in my home base; please feel free to PM me if you are coming down to Shanghai or South China and may be we can grab a beer together.
My reports on my Beijing trip will follows in the next few days. Sorry for the delays.
Enjoy!
AG
Intransit made it two for two today, by boinking an old favorite of many members of this board--although at her request, I will not mention her name. I ended up partially shooting in her eye; apparently that burns.
I had thought jokingly about doing seven for my upcoming 700th post, but I didn't think I'd actually start making progress towards it.
but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.A big WOW.. she is gorgeous.
Can I plz have her numbers?
BTW, was she worth?
SidTheSexist
04-16-07, 07:42
Because the sauna is walking distance to one of my favorite hangouts, it will now be added to regular rotation.Just wondering which hangout that would be? The den?
but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.Dear Lustforthrust,
Coming to Beijing on 17 April 2007 , so can PM me the number
Andreas Wang
04-16-07, 18:20
Take out? Well, just yell "da bao" and wait for the styrofoam boxes ... oh no wait, we talk girls again ... my bad.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. Anyway---just looking for more discussion, info about these types of spots. There are old posts but I think many are out of date in this fast-changing market.I posted one, but that was in January.
BBS are exactly what you call them: hit and miss. Read my post about them and you will see your experience with them is very normal.
Btw, my last post was just the first time I got my ass of the ground and wrote a report. I have checked these places since 1997 and whenever I come back it is the same. A numbers game, a numbers game. But oh so much fun: P
Regarding the take out option. It is AGAIN a numbers game. I only once encountered that a girl came home with me right the first time I hired her. All the other times it was girls who I had visited before.
That said, I have the impression it is mainly a security issue. I. E. They do not go with you the first time around because they do not know you. You could be a sicko or maybe have your three drinking buddies at your place waiting for you to bring some hapless girl along. That one story of a trick turning into an involuntary gangbang I heard from a couple of directions.
Once they know you though I had the impression they actually LIKE you to take them along. And not just for the money extra money. The reason is that your place is probably nicer than theirs, curiosity and then of course again safety. I mean. When was the last time the police raided your flat. I mean real police. Not your mama telling you to clear out your pigsty.
Another reason is that they maybe see you as a potentional regular if you bother to show up a second time. And from this regular routine there is always this road to become "second wife" "side wife" "mistress" whatever.
One girl I had over at my place three times in a row offered free service the fourth time around. I was off to travel South and I forgot why, but I had to meet her because of some non-sex related issue before that trip. She was also nice in many other regards like telling me "you should not pick me up at the shop, pick me up after my work, then you can save the fee to the shop. "
Anyhow when I returned from the South I found out she had been arrested meanwhile. There is only one girl I personally know about to get arrested and it of course had to be this one. : (
To this day I wonder what this offer of free sex at the last meeting was all about. Opinions?
Andreas Wang
04-16-07, 18:27
A big WOW.. she is gorgeous.I definitely concur. With the glasses she definitely has this naughty secretary / personal assistant look.
Filming her in the nude? Yawn.
You get her in a smart suit, high heels and a bit more from the side then post the results here.
Pretty please.
Nightwing88
04-17-07, 14:39
Visited a sauna that I don't think has yet been reported on in Beijing, called Jin Hai An. It's in the Chaoyang district. Address from the business card is as follows:
金海岸商务会馆
潮阳区亚运村慧忠北里418号楼
Phone: 010-6488-1122
Cost was 600 RMB for one pop (I think via HJ) and 800 RMB for one pop with BM, BJ, and FS. The environment was clean and even came with a nice buffet dinner (38RMB) between 6:30PM to 8:00PM. So, you can get your pipes cleaned, and then have a small snack afterwards.
For this place, it helps to speak Chinese. Not too many laowais at this place.
Nightwing
Ontario Boy
04-18-07, 15:16
Visited a sauna that I don't think has yet been reported on in Beijing, called Jin Hai An. It's in the Chaoyang district. Address from the business card is as follows:
金海岸商务会馆
潮阳区亚运村慧忠北里418号楼
Phone: 010-6488-1122
Nightwing
Hi Nightwing
I would like to take a taxi but, as you know, Chaoyang is a huge district .Is it possible to either provide a Pinyin translation of the address or an approximation of where the sauna is located ? is this the one on Guangoumen Waidajie ??
thank you
Crazy Jim Wood
04-18-07, 18:40
Hi Nightwing
I would like to take a taxi but, as you know, Chaoyang is a huge district .Is it possible to either provide a Pinyin translation of the address or an approximation of where the sauna is located ? is this the one on Guangoumen Waidajie ??
thank you
Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Chao Yang Qu -- 潮阳区
Ya Yun Cun -- 亚运村
Hui Zhong Bei Li -- 慧忠北里
Si Bai Shi Ba Hao Lou -- 418号楼
You can also have the taxi driver call for directions, have the concierge at your hotel call for directions and show you where it is on the map, etc.
Nightwing88
04-19-07, 10:31
Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Chao Yang Qu -- 潮阳区
Ya Yun Cun -- 亚运村
Hui Zhong Bei Li -- 慧忠北里
Si Bai Shi Ba Hao Lou -- 418号楼
You can also have the taxi driver call for directions, have the concierge at your hotel call for directions and show you where it is on the map, etc.
Thanks for the translation; you beat me to it; your Pin Yin is quite good! When I went, I didn't even know the address; I was just given the phone number. Just get into a taxi, call the place, and give the phone to the driver. It's off the North 4th Ring Road.
A couple of things to note: Go in, check all your stuff at the locker, take a nice bath (also has a hot pool and sauna as well). Change into their pajamas, and head up to the 2nd floor. I was surprised in that this is a mixed-sex sauna place. There are male and female customers here! On the 2nd floor, you can get some small snacks to eat. Afterwards, ask for a private room for massage. In the room, they will show you a menu with massage options. Ignore the menu, and tell them that you want full service massage ("quan2 tao4 an4 mo1"). The waiter will then go back out, and bring back in a parade of girls (I picked one out of seven). Have fun picking. After you're done, relax, go back downstairs, shower and leave. Price is either 600 or 800 depending on the service you select.
No one speaks English here, so good luck if you don't speak Chinese!
Nightwing
Travelin Guy
04-20-07, 14:21
For Ontario Boy and others looking to translate chinese characters into pin yin, I posted a link to a nice site on the Chinese Words & Phrases page
Lustforthrust
04-21-07, 13:13
A big WOW.. she is gorgeous.
Can I plz have her numbers?
BTW, was she worth?
You see that? I gave her # to 11 mongers (with reporting history) and not one has reported back. Here's the butterball again in Siam. Gosh, she's putting on weight by the day!
Crazy Jim Wood
04-21-07, 21:45
I haven't actually been to this place, but here's some linguistic info:
"Quan tao an mo" means "complete set massage". In this place it may just mean fucking, but in some places I have been it includes other things than fucking (the guy drying your back after the bath, fruit platter, deluxe pajamas, masseuse, etc) that wil raise price.
You can ask "quan tao an mo bao kuo shenme fu wu?" (what services does the complete set include?) tu see what you are actually paying for.
"Ru guo wo jiu yao zou ai bu yao bie de fu wu duo xiao qian?" can clarify how much it is just for sex.
Thanks for the translation; you beat me to it; your Pin Yin is quite good! When I went, I didn't even know the address; I was just given the phone number. Just get into a taxi, call the place, and give the phone to the driver. It's off the North 4th Ring Road.
A couple of things to note: Go in, check all your stuff at the locker, take a nice bath (also has a hot pool and sauna as well). Change into their pajamas, and head up to the 2nd floor. I was surprised in that this is a mixed-sex sauna place. There are male and female customers here! On the 2nd floor, you can get some small snacks to eat. Afterwards, ask for a private room for massage. In the room, they will show you a menu with massage options. Ignore the menu, and tell them that you want full service massage ("quan2 tao4 an4 mo1"). The waiter will then go back out, and bring back in a parade of girls (I picked one out of seven). Have fun picking. After you're done, relax, go back downstairs, shower and leave. Price is either 600 or 800 depending on the service you select.
No one speaks English here, so good luck if you don't speak Chinese!
Nightwing
SidTheSexist
04-23-07, 09:56
Just a quickie!
Chun Xiu Lu Sauna over the weekend. Not 100% sure but I think number 823. Absolutley brilliant service. She started with the usual cat bath and really couldnt get enough of rimming me. She dragged me off the bed and made me stand as she administered a wonderful BBBJ. Followed by great FS and finished with a complimetary load all over her tits. And just as I thought it was time to crash out and fall asleep, she jumped back on board and would not let me settle until she HJ'ed another shot. Wow! I thought this was a strict 1 shot session so for no extra tip or rip off, I have to say that was the best time yet. Total damage, 2300rmb for my mate and myself.
Got mixed up with a couple of Uzbeks from Maggies over the weekend too. Really nice girls and one of them has a great dark complexion. Almost Indian looking from what I remember. We all went back to their place down near Blue castle. Lovely international apartment, fully stocked with all sorts of wine and booze. Enjoyed a really fun session alongside my mate who had the other one. Damage was 800 each but they squeezed us for an extra 200 each as a tip for the orgie. Not too sure what the story is with their apartment though. Got the feeling there was a lot more behind the scenes than met the eye (organised work) although their GFE was unbeatable and no hints of being forced. They also speak good english, much better than the mongies and chinese.
Sid
After agonizing over this report for several weeks I decided that I should share it with the brothers, having made few contributions in the past few or so.
I was in Beijing for two nights about a month ago and had a great experience with an outcall provider. Her name was Wang Xiaoli, and she worked for one of those home-style massage places in the Soho area. It was called Charming Massage, if my memory is correct, and you can find its ad in one of those directories like That’s Beijing. According to the ad, they provide a one-hour “royal treatment” (massage by two girls) for 400 yuan.
After dinner that night, I called the number in the advertisement and asked for a two-girl massage. The woman at the other end of the line, who was able to speak decent English, told me she would get me two girls in about 15 minutes. I called back a while later, and was told that one girl had arrived at my hotel and that the other girl would get there in another five minutes. I called her again to confirm that both had arrived, and went downstairs to pick them up. (I was staying at the Grand Hyatt. For better security, the lifts must be activated by room keys after 11pm. That’s a bit inconvenient, especially if you’re traveling with some business associates).
The older girl, who seemed to be in her early 20s, was of medium built and looked barely okay. She’s just a 5 or 6 – no pretty face, no tits, no ass – and I don’t even remember her name. The other girl, Wang, at first glance looked like she was about the same age, but when you looked closer you could see that she was actually very young. She confessed to be just over 18, or 19 by Chinese way of reckoning (you’re one year old as soon as you’re born). She was quite pretty and sweet – the girl next door type – and was tiny – barely five feet tall. The tall girl could speak some English, but Wang could not.
The two girls got into my room without any problem. I then undressed (but still with my underwear) and got on bed. They got to work right away, one on each side, one doing my thighs and the other my back. The older/taller girl took off her jeans after getting on the bed, but the tiny sweetie remained full clothed except for her overcoat. After a few minutes of massage the tall girl asked if I wanted any extra service, and started to sell me a threesome for 3,000 yuan all in. I countered 1,000 yuan, and after a bit of haggling settled for 800 each.
The tall girl suggested that we all washed up, so we headed to the bathroom which had a tub and a shower. She jumped into the tub to wash her private part, and I went to the shower room. Wang came in last, and I was amazed to find that even though she was so tiny her body was actually well proportioned. Now of course she’d only got A-sized tits, but they looked great on her. I pulled her into the shower room, and she reluctantly allowed me to wash her. Then I found another pleasant surprise – she had virtually no pubic hair. We washed each other, it was fun but not really a hot session, probably because she was still quite shy.
We then congregated on bed again. Before they started to caress and blow me, I had Wang lying on her back and kissed her silky body all over. Their sex skills were just so-so, and Wang was clearly not very experienced. After a short while I decided that I must eat Wang, because her **** was so pink and tender and clean. I lied on my back and got her to sit on my face, and soon she was jumping up and down on me.
After I finished my meal I told the tall girl to put a condom on me, and entered her in missionary style. I only fucked her for some three to five minutes, and switched to work on Wang. The tall girl changed the condom, and I enter Wang’s incredibly tight hole. After a little bit of action on bed I decided to move to the sitting room. I picked her up with her legs wrapped around my waist and my dick firmly in her hole, and went out to continue the action on the sofa. The tall girl thought she had done her job, and started to put on her clothes. So I told her to come to the sitting room and sit on the coffee table with her legs wide spread. It was great to be fucking Wang’s tiny tight hole and fingering another **** at the same time. Then I got a bit tired, and sat down on the sofa so that Wang could ride me. As she wasn’t very experienced, the ride was no good and after only a few attempts I picked her up again and put her on the dinner table to continue with the action. It also proved a bit tricky for her, so I carried her to the single-seat sofa, and started to really work her hard. Finally I exploded violently in her, after what must have been half an hour of pure ecstasy. It was certainly my best session in a long time.
I have used outcall services in Beijing several times in the past couple of years, but they were nothing to write home about, except for this encounter with Wang. With these kind of massage places, I guess it really is a matter of luck.
After agonizing over this report for several weeks I decided that I should share it with the brothers, having made few contributions in the past few or so.
I was in Beijing for two nights about a month ago and had a great experience with an outcall provider. Her name was Wang Xiaoli, and she worked for one of those home-style massage places in the Soho area. It was called Charming Massage, if my memory is correct, and you can find its ad in one of those directories like That’s Beijing. According to the ad, they provide a one-hour “royal treatment” (massage by two girls) for 400 yuan.
After dinner that night, I called the number in the advertisement and asked for a two-girl massage. The woman at the other end of the line, who was able to speak decent English, told me she would get me two girls in about 15 minutes. I called back a while later, and was told that one girl had arrived at my hotel and that the other girl would get there in another five minutes. I called her again to confirm that both had arrived, and went downstairs to pick them up. (I was staying at the Grand Hyatt. For better security, the lifts must be activated by room keys after 11pm. That’s a bit inconvenient, especially if you’re traveling with some business associates).
The older girl, who seemed to be in her early 20s, was of medium built and looked barely okay. She’s just a 5 or 6 – no pretty face, no tits, no ass – and I don’t even remember her name. The other girl, Wang, at first glance looked like she was about the same age, but when you looked closer you could see that she was actually very young. She confessed to be just over 18, or 19 by Chinese way of reckoning (you’re one year old as soon as you’re born). She was quite pretty and sweet – the girl next door type – and was tiny – barely five feet tall. The tall girl could speak some English, but Wang could not.
The two girls got into my room without any problem. I then undressed (but still with my underwear) and got on bed. They got to work right away, one on each side, one doing my thighs and the other my back. The older/taller girl took off her jeans after getting on the bed, but the tiny sweetie remained full clothed except for her overcoat. After a few minutes of massage the tall girl asked if I wanted any extra service, and started to sell me a threesome for 3,000 yuan all in. I countered 1,000 yuan, and after a bit of haggling settled for 800 each.Dear WV,
800 yuan each is definately on the high, i can speak very well Chinese, so i pay 300 yuan for ST and 500-600 yuan for threesome. PM me if you need the Mamasan contact, but provided you can speak Chinese. On my recent trip i event got a young 18 years old student for 300+ 50 tips.
Dan Hawaii
04-25-07, 15:05
TSLondon,
Another good advice is to grab several of your hotel's business cards so you can give one to your taxi.
Second, if you found a good place to monger where there are lots of pretty girls, get there business cards as well.
Harley Man
04-25-07, 22:34
Just want to share my experience with you.
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "
Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her.
I ended up with another Zaya and took her to my room. Since I learned from the previous night, I locked up everything that may be interesting to this Zaya. I am sure she tried to do the same thing to escape in the middle of the night. I can tell because she opened the room door without unlocking the security chain. I purposely locked the security chain before we go to bed. I believe she searched around but couldn't find money so just stay until when I waked up.
So. Lock valuable stuff including money before go to bed and play safely.
SidTheSexist
04-26-07, 07:41
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her..This is unjust IMO. You obviously took her from maggies very early, if you then fell asleep and woke up at only 3am. Yikes, I usually dont even get to Maggies till this time. She had every right to walk out on you. You had agreed to pay her the 1K, and taking an extra 100rmb (even though wrong of her) is surely not the end of the world if you had 1K to splash out anyway. She even left you a note telling you! And the next night, she wanted to go with you again. Ive absolutely no doubts you could have gotten her for half price that night if you had of worked it correctly.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too. Ive been robbed plenty of times to know that this is not the mark of a thief. They wouldnt even look you in the eye the next night, never mind offer to go again. You could have easily agreed to take her home and then beaten shit out of her in you pad. Which sensible thief is going to fall for that???
Sid
This is unjust IMO. You obviously took her from maggies very early, if you then fell asleep and woke up at only 3am. Yikes, I usually dont even get to Maggies till this time. She had every right to walk out on you. You had agreed to pay her the 1K, and taking an extra 100rmb (even though wrong of her) is surely not the end of the world if you had 1K to splash out anyway. She even left you a note telling you! And the next night, she wanted to go with you again. Ive absolutely no doubts you could have gotten her for half price that night if you had of worked it correctly.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too. Ive been robbed plenty of times to know that this is not the mark of a thief. They wouldnt even look you in the eye the next night, never mind offer to go again. You could have easily agreed to take her home and then beaten shit out of her in you pad. Which sensible thief is going to fall for that???
Sid
But she agreed to over-night, not short-time, right? :confused: It's not "obvious" he took her "very early", he didn't say, right?
Anyway, she wasn't so bad, another girl might have robbed him. His post is a useful warning. LOCK IT UP!!!
Bit on the pudgy side.
but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.
Hi Lust,
I think she looks cute. I will be in town on the 28th. Appreciate if you could PM me her contact. Promise to follow up with FR.
*Sorry but I did not pay for the private PM services. Wanted to. Anyone care to share what will appear on the credit card statement. My wife is always on the lookout on this due to my poor history ;) *
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Thanks,
Jackson
Ace Gallant
04-26-07, 08:51
Just want to share my experience with you.
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "
Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her.
I ended up with another Zaya and took her to my room. Since I learned from the previous night, I locked up everything that may be interesting to this Zaya. I am sure she tried to do the same thing to escape in the middle of the night. I can tell because she opened the room door without unlocking the security chain. I purposely locked the security chain before we go to bed. I believe she searched around but couldn't find money so just stay until when I waked up.
So. Lock valuable stuff including money before go to bed and play safely.
IMHO:
Most girls will try to get out early if you take them early. They can pop back to Maggies or whereever in order to try to get a second customer. I can say 100% of the Mongolians or working girls are there to make their money fast, if not what will they be there for?
Having said that, I have a question for you; Did you negotiated for a "over night" or "one night" and told her that you want her to stay till morning?
If yes, it is for "overnight and you told her that you want her to stay till morning"; likely they will asked for more than 1000 if you take them early, If no, they have all rights to leave.
On the second girl, since she did not find any money, why would she try to leave? I don't understand?? May be she was trying to go out to get something? Rightfully, at that point she would wake you up and try to get her money before trying to leave.
IMHO: Rule of thumb; Always lock everything up if you are bringing girls back. Even if she is your regular.
Enjoy!
AG
Bad Boy Billy
04-26-07, 08:56
Just want to share my experience with you.
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "
Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her.
I ended up with another Zaya and took her to my room. Since I learned from the previous night, I locked up everything that may be interesting to this Zaya. I am sure she tried to do the same thing to escape in the middle of the night. I can tell because she opened the room door without unlocking the security chain. I purposely locked the security chain before we go to bed. I believe she searched around but couldn't find money so just stay until when I waked up.
So. Lock valuable stuff including money before go to bed and play safely.
Mate was this the Zaya who 'absconded' early after agreeing to all night?
If yes then I had a similar experience with her a month or so back.
She agreed at about 3am to ALL NIGHT for RMB1,000.
After fucking for an hour or so she decides she wants to leave because she must get up early in the morn.
I gave her RMB500 and booted her arse out.
It is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE for the girl to change her mind after agreeing to a deal and expecting full payment.
If this is the girl then she should be 'outed' and fellows mongers warned.
BUT
For fucks sake - Rule #1 as AG said - lock everything up - if you do not you are begging to be robbed.
A FOOL and his money are soon parted.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too.I agree with Sid that Harley Man was not "robbed", but I will say he was "ripped-off". Harley Man state in his post that she agreed to stay all night for 1000 RMB. A reasonable price, even if it was early take out from Maggie's. She ended up getting paid 1100 RMB for short time when the going rate for short time is from 600 - 800 RMB. Leaving a note makes things a little better (did she put her mobile number on it?), but taking 100 RMB extra "taxi money" is out of line in my book unless Harley Man was staying out by the airport.
Since she made more than the going rate the first time I am not surprised she offered to go with him again. Plus, as Sid points out, he proved to her that he was not crazy. Girls would much rather go with a guy they know not to be crazy for a repeat then risk taking someone new and a potential pervert. I think he was right to turn her down as everything else aside she was dishonest.
Lesson here is - lock up your stuff. After you do the deed if the girl seems restless tell her if she wants to leave early (after committing to all night) she can go, but you will not pay her the full amount. Don't try to force her to say if she does not want to as you will not get anything out of it and just be looking over your shoulder all night. Certainly don't offer to pay her more money to stay - you have already closed the deal for a specified price.
Another good point that Sid makes is that the regular girls will almost certainly take less money for the 2nd and successive nights should you choose to take them. They know that "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush". Now the young, new, or very popular girls will probably not lower their price for you the 2nd time, but I have found that taking a girl a 2nd or 3rd time almost always leads to better performance on her part. She is more relaxed and knows what to expect from you, and you know what to expect from her. Watch out though - if you take the same Mongolian girl several times, say every night when you are in town for a week, you might get elevated to "boy friend" status. Along with this come some perks - true GFE and rock bottom prices, but at the same time word will get out that you are her boy friend. Her friends become your friends, and her enemies become your enemies. They will remember this even if you go away 6 months and then come back. Trust me, I have been there.
No matter what they say, some girls will simply not stay all night. Some have family/kids here in Beijing and need to get home (a lot more than you think). Others cannot resist the call of Maggie's and 1 more potential customer that night. Still others want to take their new earned money back to the bar and spend it on drinks. I have had a girl tell me straight up that once finished she will make up an excuse after committing to all night, like "my girlfriend called and needs my help" just to get out of the room. She said the guys expect to do her all night long if she stays, and she can't get any sleep. Needless to say, I have never taken her again after that, and have made it clear to anyone who has asked me about her that she is only good for short time, no matter what she says.
Sammy
Ace Gallant
04-26-07, 09:50
Sorry I was too held up and had to delay my trip report till now.
My trip was 2 weeks ago. It is nice to meet up with Sammy T at Maggies and ISG friend Mock-A-Bee was kind enough to make this trip together, who again was kind enough to show me around.
Maggies....What can I report? I am sure whatever needed to know about Maggies was well covered by members of the board who are here in Beijing. Except that interesting enough; I did not pick up any working girls from there!
On the first night, when I was with MAB, I was told the rules of the house; Those girls wearing a tag that shows they are waitress, bar-tenders work for the bar. They are good to chat with, you buy them drinks, they make the commission. BUT they do not go out with you! If they do, and the management found out, they get fired. Those girls that don't work for the Bar will out with you, but if you are not interested in bringing them out, don't buy them drinks and chat up with them, cause if you do, they will try to convince you to take them out!
I look around, as it was dam early! 9pm! Obviously its too early for a take out. I landed chatting up with a Waitress buying a few drinks. At this point, Our Man; Sammy showed up! He, who spotted MAB (old friends), came and immediate took me in; this poor dieing soul who was barking up the wrong wall.... (No just joking back to the real stuff....) We introduce each other. I continue chatting up with this waitress of mine and the conversation had leaded us into this talk about her going to Shanghai to find work in the bar. In which I had “kindly” offered her B&B (Bed and Breakfast) while she comes to Shanghai! (Of course I’ll have her for Breakfast on my Bed!.... hmhmhmhahaha!!!! “Evil laugher”) I think it is true that they are not allowed to sleep with the customer or at least not during work hours??? Why I said so? She reminded me that she only get off work at 4:30am. We continued chatting for a while exchanged cell#, breaking off only when MAB came to get me to join Sammy at his private booth. Before we parted she told me that she will call me later. At that point, I thought she was referring to arrangement to meet in Shanghai!
I must say, Sammy was more than accommodating, he, on seeing that I was empty handed, went off to pulled some girls to join us in the booth and encourage them to chat with me. Well… Sammy if you are reading these Thanks! However I was not in the naughty mood that night. I sent two of those girls off and Sammy started asking me: what king of girls you like?” I told him not to worry…. I am no newbie; I’ll get my girl if I want to. At 1am I left Maggies with MAB heading back to my Hotel.
Here is the strange part; at 4am I received a call from my little waitress telling me that she is off work in half an hour and asked me whether I would like to have something to eat, she will bring it over. Of course earlier on, she had asked and I had told her which hotel and room number I was staying in. I do not get to bed early but I don’t really eat in the middle of the night so I told her no, I do not want anything. She said, “See you later!” and hung up. At 4.45am… she was at my door. I was puzzled totally as I was “educated by MAB that they are not to sleep with customer. I was wondering what this lady wants with me? There were no negotiations of any kind. She got in, started asking for a shower, came back out with Bathroom robe and went straight to bed asking me to join her, exclaiming “Why are you not in bed at this time?” At this point I cannot hold it back longer but to ask her, “What you want me to do? I did not agree to buy any service from you… what are you doing here and naked under my blanket?” She answered; “Must two good friends sleeping together naked on the same bed have sex? Come, all I need is some loving care from man; it’s been over one year since I left my BF that I have a shoulder to lean on to sleep.” With that, I was more comfortable and went to bed with her.
I know a lot of you guys will start saying that I am bullshitting but that night, although I was naked with her on bed, I did not fxxk her. As a regular monger, I don’t have to fxxk every girl that sleeps on my bed do I? She woke up at about 12pm saw me working on my computer; (I don’t sleep a lot). Asked me for the time, on knowing the time, she said she got to leave because she has to arrange for her trip. (I was wondering what trip?). She left my hotel at 1300 after washing up. She did not ask for money, but just said “If I don’t see you tonight, I’ll call you when I am in Shanghai.” At this point she left me wondering; what’s the deal?
To be continued……
AG
I have recently been going to the Cafe Del Mar near the Lido hotel. You go out the main lobby door and turn right. Cafe Del Mar will be on the right had of the street in the little shopping center. If you get to the traffic light you have gone too far.
They have a nice little setup there. First, the draft beer is only 10 RMB all night long (unlike the 40 RMB draft beer at the Lido). After around 7 pm there will be Chinese girls hanging around to drink with you, and they are all on the game. You can tell them apart from the wait staff as the wait staff all wear the same shirt. If it is early and there are not any girls there you can tell the bartender that you want a "massage" and they will call some girls in. It takes about 5 minutes for them to start showing up. In the basement they have a "VIP" area where you will find several individual "massage rooms". Each has a bed and a sliding door which offers a decent amount of privacy. You can take one of the girls from upstairs down to the basement for a "massage", or even take them out of the bar all night. In each case you give the bar 200 RMB, and you negotiate separately with the girl for her service. I negotiated a hj from 2 girls for a total of 400 RMB (the house did not charge me that night), and a simple massage with bj for 200 RMB to the house and 300 RMB to the girl (I know, a little high, but I was in research mode).
I have seen some Mongolian girls in there, but only once in a blue moon. The bar certainly does not run them out when the do come in. I have taken Mongolian girls from The Pig to Cafe Del Mar for a drink, but I have not yet tried to then take her down to the basement. I am sure the bar would not care as long as they got their 200 RMB. This might be a good alternative for you guys that otherwise have no place to take a girl.
Since you have to pay the house to use the room the prices are a little higher than the if you went to one of the rub-and-tug shops directly across from the Lido (there you would pay 200 RMB total for a hand job only), but it is a much better atmosphere and more services are available (depending on the girl). In addition, the bar has recently been black-listed by the US Embassy so the construction works cannot go there anymore. Something about drugs, which the bar denies. I love going to the Pig, and am happy to buy a beer for just about any other American I come across, but sometimes the young, brash construction workers who hang out at The Pig are a bit too much to take. After the Pig starts to fill up it is nice to have someplace else in the area to escape.
Speaking of The Pig, is it 5 o'clock yet?
Happy Hunting!
Sammy
Ace Gallant
04-26-07, 10:05
Its funny while I am writting my second day report and was mentioning about Pigs, when I saw Sammy posted about Pig here....:D:D
Day two …. Or shall I say; Night two?
Met up with MAB again and headed out to PIG. It’s a long ride there but we got there. We got our drinks and I was immediately surprise by the slight of so many girls in a small little place! I guess there is no place in Shanghai compared to this. Even the famous Manhattan Bar on TRL, Shanghai is a far cry from t e PIG. There are lots of Mongolians and Chinese Pros. Upon eye to eye contact, they will approach you for a drink. (I guess the system is the same, these girls will get a commission out of the drinks). MAB and I chatted up with two Chinese girls. Negotiation time; we are surprise they asked for 1500 – ST, We told them they are fxxking crazy! They started giving us the crap about they working there part time, they need to pay bar fines to get out, blah blah blah… yah right! Further negotiation brought us to 1000 for my girl and 1200 for MAB girl. That was 1 hour later. Seeing that the negotiation is getting nowhere, we call it quit. I was told that Mongolian is between 600 – 800 for ST and a little less for Chinese. (Courtesy of good ISG members on Beijing Board, efforts appreciated). The girls wouldn’t let us go as they were giving us all sort of excuse that they were sitting with us for over an hour. I nicely told them that that was 2 two drinks each for them totaling up 24RMB on Commission for them. They were a little surprised but continued to pester us to bring them out. Not wanting to be held back any longer, I gave my girl a 50 RMB, stood up and left. MAB on seeing that, he tips his girl too and we headed out. Of course we don’t need to tip them but I don’t like to feeling of girls pestering me. I would like to apologize to members here who think I am spoiling the market.
Leaving PIG, we headed out to Hollywood to check out the Russian chicks. Advice needed here: The entrance fee, I was told that it includes one drink or does it not? MAB told me that the waiters at the entrance will take away the coupon and not let you have the free drink if you are not the regular there. We asked likewise but they said there is no free drink and just snatch away our coupon. But if there is no free drink, why do we even bother to pay and get a coupon? Just pay and enter! Anyways… what the hell… not going to kick up a fuss over a 40RMB drink. But I am just curious to know.
Once in Hollywood, we were in little Russia! Scouted around, there are some pretty nice ones and a lot of Fat or Old or Ugly or All of three . I think the main problem here is communication; the nice one of my type all does not speak enough English! Stupid me… I do not speak Russian. Should had beef up my Russian when I had that Russian GF back than! Again after 30 mins, we gave up! But its nice to finally made it into Hollywood after my first 2 attempts failed. In all my previous trip I’d ended up been hijacked outside Hollywood, by Russian girls going to work, while I was walking towards Hollywood. (Had reported that previously).
Once again, we were on the street walking towards Maggies. Made it in at around 22:30, it’s a Thursday night, the place is half filled. My little waitress came to me on the slight of me entering the bar. Gave me this strange grin in her face and said “Its all done!” Again she left me wondering “What the Fxxk is she talking about?????”
Chatted up with a couple of Mongolians, brought a few drinks here and there just enjoy the chat with a couple potentials take outs. Got Hungry, had a Hotdog at the Counter near the Entrance of Maggies. Saw a number of fresh girls coming to “work”. Its 00:30 MAB left as he had a long day. I return back inside chatted with one of the previous Mongolian girl, strike a deal at 700 for ST. Headed back to hotel. I will spare the details for the deed.
Personal Details
Name is Winnie or Wendy or some fxxking name that I did not catch… must be the Hot Dog! (not the Alcohol!)
Breast Size: 38C bra size (checked it while she was in the showers).
GFE rate: 7/10
Looks: 7/10
About: 168m
Weight: 50 – 55KG
Hair: Long and Black
Language: English – good, Chinese – Sucks
Others: BJ – 5/10, Sex – 5/10, She must be rushing to get back to Maggies for second customer!
Finished off at around 3:30, gave her 700 + 50 for Taxi (Although she pester me for more, sorry … not that great service, so I told her she should be lucky I even gave her the cab fare!)
End of Part two…. To be continued
AG
Bad Boy Billy
04-26-07, 10:14
I love going to the Pig, and am happy to buy a beer for just about any other American I come across, but sometimes the young, brash construction workers who hang out at The Pig are a bit too much to take. After the Pig starts to fill up it is nice to have someplace else in the area to escape.
Speaking of The Pig, is it 5 o'clock yet?
Happy Hunting!
Sammy
What about buying a beer for your Australian mates?
Ace Gallant
04-26-07, 10:45
Part 3 and final part.
The Mongolian left at 3:30 so I thought I should take some rest. Guess what? At 4am, I received a call from my little waitress; she said that she will come over in 30 mins. Now I was thinking… shit! Am I going to be stuck to this one or what? If she get down to Shanghai, looks like she is never going to leave??? I decided to state it clear to her tonight.
She arrived at around 4:50 and did the same thing as what she does the night before. But this time, I made my move, I ask her: “You are a nice girl and I like you, but can I know what you want from me? Let’s be direct!” Her answer was; “Nothing! I just found that you are a nice guy, I felt safe with you, I’ll will take up your offer for a Bed when I am going down next week to look for a Job, I find a job there, all I need from you is to temporary put me up till I find a place to stay. You are a good friend to me.” I was still not convince so I further asked her: “I think this is a bit crazy… but we only know each other less than 48 hours, how can you say we are good friends, how can you trust me?” Her answer: “Because you did not took advantage of me last night!” My next question: “What if I did take advantage of you?” Her answer: “Consider it as advance payment for Shanghai” With that, we went off the sleep till we got up at 1000 she left for home while I headed to the airport. Yes, yes, I did not fxxk her again! This is because I am still suspicious of her.
This is not the end of the chapter!
When I was back in Shanghai, I received a text message from her that she will be arriving Shanghai the next day and hope that I have my bed ready. She got into town, got into my house, got onto my bed and this time I knew for sure she was not lying about payback with her body for taking her in. I will cut the story short on what happened in Shanghai and post it separately in Shanghai thread, and yes I finally decided and fxxk her in Shanghai! For this case, I am not sure shall I classify her as freebie or paybie as I did put her up in Shanghai for 2 nights.
Enjoy!
AG
I nearly always seem to have trouble with long-time arrangements. Usually, they want to get up early and leave quickly. Sometimes the girl is not as good as I had hoped and I wish I had only agreed to short-time.
I think it is always better to negotiate for short-time only. If the girl is great in the room, very girlfriendly and good sex, then you can offer to give her extra money to stay the night.
Harley Man
04-26-07, 21:02
This is unjust IMO. You obviously took her from maggies very early, if you then fell asleep and woke up at only 3am. Yikes, I usually dont even get to Maggies till this time. She had every right to walk out on you. You had agreed to pay her the 1K, and taking an extra 100rmb (even though wrong of her) is surely not the end of the world if you had 1K to splash out anyway. She even left you a note telling you! And the next night, she wanted to go with you again. Ive absolutely no doubts you could have gotten her for half price that night if you had of worked it correctly.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too. Ive been robbed plenty of times to know that this is not the mark of a thief. They wouldnt even look you in the eye the next night, never mind offer to go again. You could have easily agreed to take her home and then beaten shit out of her in you pad. Which sensible thief is going to fall for that?
SidIt is about 5 mins drive from Maggies to my hotel. I took her to my room around 2am. She agreed 800 for one hour but willing to stay for overnight with 1000. She agreed to stay until 6am or later in the morning. I don't mean to blame anyone but just want to share the experience with you guys - lock up your valuable stuff. You never know what could happen. Since there are so many Zaya in Maggies, I don't think putting her name here will make anything different to her.
Bad Boy Billy
04-26-07, 23:49
AG
Definitely no free drink at Hollywood with your 40RMB entrance fee.
Now doesn't that place just have the coldest and weirdest atmosphere for a bar full of hookers you ever seen?
It is primarily aimed at Chinese customers - make no mistake about that - non-Chinese are tolerated but certainly not warmly welcomed by either management OR the hookers.
Many Russians, quite a few Uzbeks, some Chinese, some Mongolians, the odd Korean, quite a smorgasboard of nationalities in terms of providers.
BUT
The 'Terms of Engagement' are quite definitive here:
1. Short time only - 1 shot RMB800
2. No kissing
3. No pictures
YES YES YES - I know many have negotiated variations to this - but as a GENERAL RULE these are the terms that most girls will ask / demand.
Why is it aimed at Chinese customers - simnple - they DO NOT argue over price and they are finished fucking in about 2 mins flat and the girlie gets back for a second or third 'sucker' each night.
Still Billy goes there most nights he is in Beijing - just love looking at the blonde Russians - and I try toi get best deal I can out of whoever I choose.
Footnote: Watch your change here - change delivery after buying drink is conveniently delayed / forgotten about by bartenders if they can.
I went Hollywood on Monday night briefly, so my surprise, I saw many familiar faces even though I haven't been there for almost 7 months. I guess not much new blood coming from USSR and the current selection is as good as previous times. After circled around several times, I spotted a 22 yr old Russian baby called Svetlena with good figure and friendly attitude. Once agree at 800rmb (not much room for negotiation), we went back to my hotel. Oh, boy she has got real nice body with a pair of beautifully hung boobs and shapely ass. One drawback, she had pretty bad breath from smoking (a common defects in Russian girls in Hollywood). Throughout the act, she was accomodating and slow to warm up and refuse to kiss. However, she wanted cuddle after I came but I declined as I feel she wasn't too engaging enough at the beginnning. Anyhow, her nice body and ok attitude made up for the worth.
Ace Gallant
04-27-07, 03:42
AG
Definitely no free drink at Hollywood with your 40RMB entrance fee.
Now doesn't that place just have the coldest and weirdest atmosphere for a bar full of hookers you ever seen?
It is primarily aimed at Chinese customers - make no mistake about that - non-Chinese are tolerated but certainly not warmly welcomed by either management OR the hookers.
Many Russians, quite a few Uzbeks, some Chinese, some Mongolians, the odd Korean, quite a smorgasboard of nationalities in terms of providers.
BUT
The 'Terms of Engagement' are quite definitive here:
1. Short time only - 1 shot RMB800
2. No kissing
3. No pictures
YES YES YES - I know many have negotiated variations to this - but as a GENERAL RULE these are the terms that most girls will ask / demand.
Why is it aimed at Chinese customers - simnple - they DO NOT argue over price and they are finished fucking in about 2 mins flat and the girlie gets back for a second or third 'sucker' each night.
Still Billy goes there most nights he is in Beijing - just love looking at the blonde Russians - and I try toi get best deal I can out of whoever I choose.
Thanks Billy for these great tips!
I had found these to be very true for at least those two Russians that on both accassions "hijacked" me on my previous trip, outside Hollywood.
Footnote: Watch your change here - change delivery after buying drink is conveniently delayed / forgotten about by bartenders if they can.
Yes, MAB told me this. We actually prepared small change and paid the exect amount when he delivered our drinks. Not that we are cheap but I think this sort of behaviour is acting like thieves and should not be courage. If he ask for a tip or deliver the drinks with a smile, I am sure we are more willing to ask him to keep the change.
Unfortunately my schedule was too tight to PM you and perhaps meet up with you in my last few trips. But I am sure I would love to hang out for a drink with you. Till next time!
Enjoy!
AG
Ace Gallant
04-27-07, 03:49
Oh... just in case you guys are wondering what's the name of the "Little Waitress" from Maggies, that I had as freebie; Sorry, I promised her not to tell anyone that she came to my Hotel after work. This is because after the trip to Shanghai, she returned to Beijing and is still working there till End of April. If she got fired by the manangement, she will get a lot of salary deductions (Bar fines).
A fellow member here just asked me over MSN; why I keep referring her as "Little Waitress" instead of naming her.
Enjoy!
AG
Silver Guy
04-27-07, 04:59
This week in Beijing.
I was exploring the Hollywwod a couple of nights ago (11:00pm) and I can confirm it was a "cold" environment and girls were mixed and nothing to bring back home. I just chatted to Dely (UZB) and Maya? (MON) and they both asked for 800 ST and 2500 ST. Bargained only on LT but then left them in and I went back to the hotel as I was not in the right mood.
I'm staying at Park Plaza hotel in Jinbao road (10 min taxy to Ritan Park) and I've tested the in-house massage service as it's a very nice 4 star hotel. I went to the health centre and asked for a massage and I kindly asked for a "relaxing and pleasuring ending" and the lady asked me "go to the room" "go to the room speak there". Finally I got my good oil-massage by a very shy young lady and she was happy to provide the "HJ" after seeing the 200 RMB for her. Nice experience.
P.S. :
I wanna try HRC or Maggie's tonight but I'd like to have a beer-mate to make the right choice for the night. Someone wants to helping me in choosing the right chick? I'd appreciate it.
Bye
Beijing girls want 800 ST and 2500 LT? That really sucks!
SidTheSexist
04-27-07, 07:35
Hi Guys,
Just to clarify. I did not mean to come across as an all out flame. I just thought there were a feew discrepencies in Harleys post that needed questioning. Its fine to warn fellow mongers about potential traps and rip off girls, but sometimes it can be your own stupidity that leads you to believe you were done; when actually you werent. Now that Harley has cleared a few grey areas, it does appear that she was acting rather out of turn on this occassion. We still dont know if he had already given her the money upfront or whether she took it from his pockets? If it was the latter, then this is out of hand. But had she already received the 1K and only took a sly 100, then although still not on, its maybe not quite as bad as helping herself to an undeserved 1K. "Taxi money" is the biggest rip off going. 100rmb would get you from Guo Mao, to the Airport. None of the Girls live this far away. I would rather they just asked for a tip than this stupid Taxi money bullshit. Whats 20rmb from the 1K you've just paid?? Dont say, "a lot to them."
To conclude, I do agree with the overall message which is keep your valuables out of site and that the girls can be very well known for taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). However, without condoning the "grab and run" behaviour, when outlining an individual case, lets just take a look at all the factors, before jumping to general conclusions.
Peace :D
Sid
PS May hols approaching. Anyone staying in town?
Bad Boy Billy
04-27-07, 07:42
Thanks Billy for these great tips!
Unfortunately my schedule was too tight to PM you and perhaps meet up with you in my last few trips. But I am sure I would love to hang out for a drink with you. Till next time!
Enjoy!
AG
AG
I am not a Beijingite - I actually live in Australia - but am lucky enough to get to Beijing 5 or 6 times each year - I have been coming here for 10 years - I am far from the most knowledgeable guy on the Beijing scene but I have gained a fair amount of experience in that time.
I will actually be in Shanghai May 3 to 7 - will be in Manhattan Bar on Thuir night May 3 - maybe we can catch up whilst I am there.
Ace Gallant
04-27-07, 07:48
AG
I will actually be in Shanghai May 3 to 7 - will be in Manhattan Bar on Thuir night May 3 - maybe we can catch up whilst I am there.
Darn.... Its long holidays and I am returning to States during that time. Sorry miss you this trip... next time ok?
Just a little on Shanghai since you are on this subject; Last night we were out mongering and we had found that a lot of nice girls, who had made their money before, had left for home early for this holiday season. I am referring to the Bars in TRL, the girls in BBSs, the KTV too!
Enjoy!
AG
Bad Boy Billy
04-27-07, 07:58
Beijing girls want 800 ST and 2500 LT? That really sucks!
Santa that has been the going rate for the Ruskies in Beijing for several years - they are not the easiest people in the world to negotiate with - especially out of Hollywood.
Regularly there are a few working Hard Rock - these girls are all 'freelancers' where most of the Hollywood girls are working for pimps - the Hard Rock girls can and will bend a bit if negotiations are done sensibly.
I have found that rather than try to 'discount' price - try to get them to 'up' what they deliver slightly for same money.
They will want RMB800 for ST which will not include kissing - offer them RMB800 with kissing - or even RMB800 for 2 shots - trust me both these offers have been accepted on several occasions from the Russians inside Hard Rock - but I only ever once got 1 Russian out of Hollywood to kiss and allow pics - even video of the blow job - 18yo Lola - pics attached - just be nice - negotiate - you mighht get a surprise.
Bad Boy Billy
04-27-07, 07:59
Darn.... Its long holidays and I am returning to States during that time. Sorry miss you this trip... next time ok?
Just a little on Shanghai since you are on this subject; Last night we were out mongering and we had found that a lot of nice girls, who had made their money before, had left for home early for this holiday season. I am referring to the Bars in TRL, the girls in BBSs, the KTV too!
Enjoy!
AG
Thanks mate - I am sure I can still find a 'mattress worker' or 2 that will occupy my time.
Last time I went to Beijing, a few years ago, I was shocked by the high prices. I went to Maggies, Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe and Pig, didn,t like any of them. Some of the girls were ok but I refused to pay their prices. I did manage to find a few bbs girls that were ok, but it took many many hours of searching, and the service was only so so. I also found a nice girlfriend, but I ran away when she became too clingy.
I did post, but I did not want to be critical. I think Beijing is a great city with lots of interesting places to visit and a good nightlife. However, I don't think it's a good mongering town, unless you have lots of money to spend and don't mind spending it.
The first time I went to Beijing was 25 years ago. I have since been there several times.
Peroxide blonds from Russia are not part of my fantasy.
Bad Boy Billy
04-27-07, 08:51
Last time I went to Beijing, a few years ago, I was shocked by the high prices. I went to Maggies, Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe and Pig, didn,t like any of them. Some of the girls were ok but I refused to pay their prices. I did manage to find a few bbs girls that were ok, but it took many many hours of searching and the service was only so so. I also found a nice girlfriend, but I ran away when she became too clingy.
I did post, but I did not want to be critical. I think Beijing is a great city with lots of interesting places to visit and a good nightlife. However, I don't think it's a good mongering town, unless you have lots of money to spend and don't mind spending it.
The first time I went to Beijing was 25 years ago. I have since been there several times.
Peroxide blonds from Russia are not part of my fantasy.
Santa all valid points - but different strokes for different folks.
I have been in China 5 to 8 times each year for last 10 years - I am not a BBS type of guy - I just love to get the girls back to my hotel room - shower them up nice and clean - and spend a few hours with them to 'savour' the experience.
RMB800 for 1 shot is high end for me also - but I now have a 'group' of Mongolian, Chinese, Uzbek girls in Beijing who will willingly come to my hotel during day / early evening for RMB800 for 3 hours - 3 shots - that is the ground rules I have laid out for them - all are fantastic providers or the get the boot.
LT or overnight from Maggies now costs RMB1,000 min - too much I think - but I am not one of the guys paying over the odds.
But yoiu either pay what is now the gooing rate - or you go home I alone - Billy never goes home alone.
Sounds like you are doing it right Bad Boy Billy. Good on ya mate. If I go to Beijing again Santa will buy you a pint.
The real problem with Beijing is the big spenders who fuck-up the market. I expect it will get even worse with the Olympics.
Bad Boy Billy
04-27-07, 09:39
Sounds like you are doing it right Bad Boy Billy. Good on ya Ozzie. If I go to Beijing again Santa will buy you a pint.
The real problem with Beijing is the big international spenders who fuck-up the market. I expect it will get even worse with the Olympics.
Yes those with way too much money do make it kinda difficult.
My daytime 'playmates' all work Maggies or Hard Rock - they tell me stories of what some of these guys pay them - UNBELIEVABLE.
In some cases - 100's of US $'s without any negotiation at all - it does make it a tad difficult for those who want some fun at a reasonable price.
Still we gotta soldier on right - treat the girls nice - pay a fair price - and in most cases you will get a great time.
Gamma Ray 007
04-27-07, 13:21
Another Sauna: I've got to start writing down the names of these places. This one is on Guang Qu Lu. Just head east from the third ring and you'll get there in just a few minutes. It's huge and on the right.
Hi MaxMaxMax--no offense, and I'm never one to turn up my nose at great intel, but could I use your post to illustrate something that really bugs me? To wit: posting great adventures with inadequate "how to get there and do it myself" information.
So here's my advice to all: let's provide more and better location information. Check out my recent post here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=588707 for a sample: complete "how-to-get-there" and even a couple of pictures.
As an alternative, and possibly more practical possibility, consider firing up Google Earth, zoom in to the place, and once you are staring at the building from our eye-in-the-sky note the latitude and longitude and post it in your report.
I'm aware that in some circumstances it may be desirable to prevent the MIB from *easily* knowing the locations about which we post, but that can be handled on a case-by-case basis.
I remember an overweight and ageing mongolian lady telling me she charges 1500 rmb for short-time. Fucking unbelievable! Of course she negotiates down from there, but I'm sure some guys are happy to pay that and give a big tip.
I later met an Exxon executive at an english pub who had no idea about "where the pussy's at". I'm sure he would have been happy to pay.
I do not know if this is normal, but what I saw in HRC was pathetic. The girls were mostly ugly and even 4 whiskey-colas did not change that fact.
I came with an idea to pick up a Russian or Mongolian. 1 good Mongolian, big tits, good body, wearing striped shirt. I saw three guys approach her, but I guess she wanted too much - they all left her alone. There were 7 Russian girls in the place: 1 - 2/10 (looked like mamasan actually), 4 - 6/10, 1 - 7/10 and 1 - 8/10. 8/10 got picked up before i made a move, the 3 of 6/10 got themselves a bunch of Indian or Pakistani dudes, 1 6/10 and 2/10 continued to hang at the bar with typical Russian ***** faces - so sad, you want to give them money for not fucking them. The 7/10 stood by herself and I made a move. Name was Katherina from the City of Irkutsk, 23 y.o. Dressed in 1992 and forgot to change. Peasant hands. Everything was fine until she smiled: one of the front teeth was black. Spoke some English. I am a native Russian speaker, but never told her that. Announced 1000 ST, 2000 LT. I said thank you, I'm going to pass and went back to hotel empty handed.
I'm staying at Holiday Inn, Temple of Heaven. No action here at all, however I did go to the street next to the hotel where I saw a number of BBS. Most were closed, but one was open. Please note, I passed it a few times today and there were customers getting haircuts there. I figured out nobody will cut hair at 01:30 in the morning and went in. A so-so HJ cost me 200 - more than norm, but considering time. The girl was fat and ugly, but it still was better than to give a HJ to myself - I'm even uglier.
Good hunting!
Ace Gallant
04-28-07, 05:08
Thanks mate - I am sure I can still find a 'mattress worker' or 2 that will occupy my time.
Billy,
Good news for you.
I had just confirmed last night with several managers, Mama sans of KTV, Bars and BBSs that most of the girls had gone home this week and will be back to work next week. This is to catch the holiday crowd.
So ditch your dreams about doing those mattress worker!
Enjoy!
AG
Sebastian My
04-28-07, 05:21
This week in Beijing.
I was exploring the Hollywwod a couple of nights ago (11:00pm) and I can confirm it was a "cold" environment and girls were mixed and nothing to bring back home. I just chatted to Dely (UZB) and Maya? (MON) and they both asked for 800 ST and 2500 ST. Bargained only on LT but then left them in and I went back to the hotel as I was not in the right mood.
P.S. :
I wanna try HRC or Maggie's tonight but I'd like to have a beer-mate to make the right choice for the night. Someone wants to helping me in choosing the right chick? I'd appreciate it.
Bye
You don't really need a buddy at maggies, solo works very well in this establishments. I would suggest trying the Pig at Lido first. You will have to beat the women off with a bat. As for HRC, i typically don't like it very much for many reasons, main one is supply and demand, so if you see lots of punters and a few girls, having a buddy with you is of minimal use. Vica versa, you don't need a buddy.
As for Hollywood, i was at Hollywood last night and the girls are very aggressive - basically business is not so good and i assume over golden week it will get worst. Just remember there is no negotiation, you will have to fork out RM800 for ST - if that works out you can ask what the LT upgrade price is before she goes. If you try and negotiate they will think you are cheap and likely to rip them off, thus you will get crap service and they will ask for money up front.
The aggressive ones provide very good service, but they can be very business like and quick - the shy ones provide not so good service, but if you treat them nice will stay around longer. Make it clear you are not Russian or eastern European and walk around the bar until you see someone you like - and go for it. If you get a reject, don't worry - its not personal - normally its because the girl is being forced to turn up by her mama-san and does not really want any business that night - or she suspects you are Russian.
Update - I did a detailed check last night and i have to agree with an earlier post, the quality is not very good. I could not find any new nice Uzbeks and there is only a few nice Russians - one short blond bird with a massive exposed mid-rift was very nice, but she was selected rather early in the evening.
One auxiliary comment, my main thing is Chinese birds, but i always like having at least one regular Russian - i suppose to remind me what European women are like. As a result i like and get on rather well with the Uzbeks and reasonably well with the Russians, so i am definitely a russianphile. However saying this there is one thing about there girls which is rather unfortunate - they age very quickly. I use to have a model type regular about 3 years ago, i saw here again recently and she has not weathered very well. Still great body, but 3 years of this business has not been kind to her face. As a result i normally stay with the amateurs, even though the service level is not so good. They tend to not age as quickly.
Another comment, these girl remember everything they see – i did not recognise my regular from 3 years ago (combination of poor eye sight, poor lighting and the fact her face had aged) but she proceeded to tell me what i had been doing in Hollywood's for the last 2 years and had demanded to know why i had not approached her. (Lets ignore the fact she could of approached me?) Christ – i think i need to lay off Hollywood for a while. So let this be a lesson – if you go to somewhere like Hollywood all the girls know you and they remember everything you had done in previous visits – so if you treat a girl badly – all the other girls will know it.
Ace Gallant
04-28-07, 05:25
Hi MaxMaxMax--no offense, and I'm never one to turn up my nose at great intel, but could I use your post to illustrate something that really bugs me? To wit: posting great adventures with inadequate "how to get there and do it myself" information.
So here's my advice to all: let's provide more and better location information. Check out my recent post here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=588707 for a sample: complete "how-to-get-there" and even a couple of pictures.
As an alternative, and possibly more practical possibility, consider firing up Google Earth, zoom in to the place, and once you are staring at the building from our eye-in-the-sky note the latitude and longitude and post it in your report.
I'm aware that in some circumstances it may be desirable to prevent the MIB from *easily* knowing the locations about which we post, but that can be handled on a case-by-case basis.
GR007,
I am not flaming you but just my POV:
This is ISG, this is an open board, not everyone are writers here. It is very often; while out mongering, we forgot our cameras or the girls bang the shit out of us and we totally forgot what is the street name we had just returned from. :D
But to some sense you are right, there are calls for more informative posts here however, if the poster did not post sufficient information you can always post your questions. Which in turn you may get your answers from members that not neccessary is the original poster. This is what kept the board alive!
As for the newbies to posting a good report, I had highlighted it before in one of my post. Read it if you have time.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=514572&postcount=75
A true monger can be parachuted down into an unknown city and sniff out the pussies by himself.
Enjoy!
AG
I hope anyone who reads this board will strive to keep the 'gifts' in line! I saw many chumps dishing out 1000 - 2000 st to maggies girls. Jeez!! This is insane by any place in the planet - let alone prc!
Some tips -
1) If you take them early, then do a dinner or drink somewhere else. Like pick them from the Pig and go to a dumpling place. Get a little personal. Then back to the hotel/apt for a little fun time. Pay no more than 500 total. And make sure you go back to Mags or the Pig or wherever with them. Key is - develop a little BFE and you'll get alot more mileage and lower costs.
2) If you take them late (3am +) Then don't discuss any prices at all until you're back to the pad. Then , just undress and get in bed. They'll eventually bring it up and probably ask something crazy like 1500 or whatever. Thats fine. Just say, 'if you want to stay with me tonite, you're welcome'. 'but I will pay you xxx (300-600) plus breakfast in the morning if you're nice'. 'Otherwise, you're free to go and here's 50rmb for your taxi. 9 out of 10 they'll stay. If not - so what - you can go back to M's and find one that will.
Personally I prefer the late takes as opposed to the early ones. They are either hungry, already been paid at least once, a little drunk, tired or combination. So , if it's a girl I dont know, this is the safest and least risk way to check her out.
I know alot of you guys are coming from FAW's, stretches with only left-hand sally as your fun, padded expense accounts, etc -- but you don't need to raise the prices by stupid spending.
That's my 2rmb worth..
S.
El Frances
04-28-07, 15:59
Last year I took some girls in Wangfujing street. They hanged around at night and worked with a mamasan. I found some cute young slim girls (like 18/20 y.o.) and paid 500 RMB for ST. It was not a GFE but the girls tried to do a good job and had a good attitude. I will try again next month.
Is it the right price for this type of girls, or should I negotiate better?
Playboy2000
04-28-07, 16:58
I've been reading this thread, getting ready for my first trip to Beijing in July. But I have not seen the following issue addressed:
Suppose you take a Mongolian out of Maggies, say at 1PM, for LT (say, agreed until 9PM). After a night-time romp and then some sleep, is it standard to have another romp in the morning?
Thanks, Race
Member #3421
04-28-07, 19:38
1) If you take them early, then do a dinner or drink somewhere else. Like pick them from the Pig and go to a dumpling place. Get a little personal. Then back to the hotel/apt for a little fun time. Pay no more than 500 total. And make sure you go back to Mags or the Pig or wherever with them. Key is - develop a little BFE and you'll get alot more mileage and lower costs.
S.S,
Thanks, this one is interesting. By early (given the dinner/drinks comment) do you mean 7PM-10PM? Take them for dinner, pay ST rate, might occupy 3 hours of their time and yet get them back to Maggies/Pig before midnight? This has the advantage of (a) avoiding late-night hotel trouble, and (b) still getting to bed early. Total cost: dinner plus ST (500 seems lower than I remember in other posts, am I wrong for early ST)? Do you negotiate this whole thing up front? "Let's get something to eat, then go back to my place for an hour?"
On a somewhat related note: what would 2-3 hours, 2 shots translate as?
NBG
Bad Boy Billy
04-29-07, 00:17
I've been reading this thread, getting ready for my first trip to Beijing in July. But I have not seen the following issue addressed:
Suppose you take a Mongolian out of Maggies, say at 1PM, for LT (say, agreed until 9PM). After a night-time romp and then some sleep, is it standard to have another romp in the morning?
Thanks, Race
Absolutely - confirm it with her before closing the deal - DO NOT PAY UNTIL SHE IS READY TO LEAVE.
Make it clear to her - 1 or 2 pops tonight - another fuck in the morning before you leave - payment then.
If she does not agree - [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off and grab another one.
DO NOT RELENT BACK IN ROOM IF SHE ASKS FOR MONEY FIRST - NEVER PAY UPFRONT.
Bad Boy Billy
04-29-07, 00:19
Last year I took some girls in Wangfujing street. They hanged around at night and worked with a mamasan. I found some cute young slim girls (like 18/20 y.o.) and paid 500 RMB for ST. It was not a GFE but the girls tried to do a good job and had a good attitude. I will try again next month.
Is it the right price for this type of girls, or should I negotiate better?
Sounds like you are doing a pretty good job - yes of course try to get the price down a bit if you can - but most of all ENJOY if this is what you are after.
Quck calculation:
2 x girls @ 500ea = RMB1,000
3 x girls @ 300ea = RMB900
Get the picture?
Bad Boy Billy
04-29-07, 00:23
I hope anyone who reads this board will strive to keep the 'gifts' in line! I saw many chumps dishing out 1000 - 2000 st to maggies girls. Jeez!! This is insane by any place in the planet - let alone prc!
S.
A Maggies regular who I have been 'doing' for 3 years now - and whom I trust implicitly - told me in March that the previous night some dumb ass guy just walked up to her and said "US$300 for 1 hour - take it or leave it".
Guess what she did?
Now how fucking stupid is that guy?
Remember - most of the girls will hit the Pig earliest at around 7 or so - this is what I mean by 'early'. After you know the girls and call direct - then 'early' could mean just about anything from noon on. BTW - Mongolian girls don't like butterflies too much - so if your started to seeing many girls differently, they'll eventually start to diss you. Put them on your side by developing a less sexual friendship with one or two. Then just clearly explain that you love sleeping with Mongolian girls and ask 'your friend' to help you find the good ones you can both trust. They respect more a man who is a good friend and relatively upfront about his lust. Once you get this kind of rapport, you'll be lucky to spend a night alone under any costs, and keeping them out of your room will be your biggest hassle.
BTW - Mongolian girls don't like butterflies too much - so if your started to seeing many girls differently, they'll eventually start to diss you.
You hit the nail on the head Soujourn. When I lived in BJ I took a Mongolia one night and she ultimately became a freebie. That is until one day she found a pair of ladies shoes another girl had left in my apartment. She dropped me like a bad habit. Butterflies are definitely at the bottom of their list.
ES
I'm noticing a lot of the guys on the board here keep mentioning dinner plans with some of the local providers. I'd like to ask you guys how often you run across someone you know during these plans? And how do you introduce the person you're with? As far as I can tell the expat community is tightly knit, so it would seem easy to be caught out an about with one of the ladies. Certainly it's none of their business who you are with, but some of you must still share this concern. Any advice to offer?
Pro Hunter
04-29-07, 16:20
Recently I was approach by girls outside Lufthansa shopping mall, 5 minutes walk towards the north of Hardrock cafe when I was there for "Marlboro"shopping.
I chat with them. Some dont speak english but 1-2 of them speak little english.
I ask them and come to know that they are the gang from "Sichuan". Anyone tried before and has any interesting story to share?
What is the price, compare to HRC? and is it safe to pick them on the street?
Pro Hunter,
In the past, I had some SW from the street in front of LH shopping mall and HRC. All my experience there is negative. They might charge you less than a HRC girl (e.g. 400 for ST), but the quality and / or attitude is low. Once I had a quite pretty one of about 20 years. But she was so horribly dry that event the condom broke. Not a nice imagination.
On the other hand, I had several girls from the HRC and was never really disappointed. The prices were somewhat higher, though (e.g. 800 for LT).
I also had once a girl from the Pig. She was really great.
From Maggies I also had a few, and the experiences were mixed. One agreed only to ST, and then when we wanted to start, she received (or pretended to receive?) a phone call from a "good customer". I.e. she told me that she has only limited time, because she needs to see him. I was so pissed off and was about to through her out. But then, she agreed to stay for 2 hours, which was enough for me. Then, her attitude and talent was not even so bad.
My next try is probably the Pig again.
Wonderer
Old timers on this board will remember Intransit's long-standing fornication with one of the industry's all-time greats: Kitty. If you don't know who Kitty is, go back into the 2003-2004 posts and look it up.
Anyway, Kitty is coming out of retirement, and as an old friend I got a preview. I can tell you that her skills are as fine as they have ever been. She is enthusiastic, talented, and intelligent, as appropriate and comfortable at your dinner table as in your bed, an excellent escort and far more than just a good lay.
She's around during May 1 for those of you with free time and looking for someone truly extraordinary. PM me for contact info.
Bad Boy Billy
04-30-07, 04:30
Recently I was approach by girls outside Lufthansa shopping mall, 5 minutes walk towards the north of Hardrock cafe when I was there for "Marlboro"shopping.
I chat with them. Some dont speak english but 1-2 of them speak little english.
I ask them and come to know that they are the gang from "Sichuan". Anyone tried before and has any interesting story to share?
What is the price, compare to HRC? and is it safe to pick them on the street?
Mate the 'price' is whatever you can negotiate.
I have had double headers off the street for RMB300 each - these girls are all freelancers and free to charge whatever the 2 of you agree on.
Go for it - it is little money - if the experience is no good what have you lost?
I’M going to be in Beijing the week of May 20th, after coming from Japan. I heard its pretty rough in Tokyo for foreigners to find some action. I have never been to China before and this is my first time in BJ, so I don’t have much information to share with you. I’ve done some in-depth research reading through this message board, and I read the "Beginners Guide", which I’m very grateful for. I’m just looking to have a good time, and want to see if anybody wants to meet up while they are mongering.
I was wrong, I will be in BJ the week preceding May 20th, I leave on the 20th.
Sebastian My
04-30-07, 08:30
I’M going to be in Beijing the week of May 20th, after coming from Japan. I heard its pretty rough in Tokyo for foreigners to find some action. I have never been to China before and this is my first time in BJ, so I don’t have much information to share with you. I’ve done some in-depth research reading through this message board, and I read the "Beginners Guide", which I’m very grateful for. I’m just looking to have a good time, and want to see if anybody wants to meet up while they are mongering.
Good Lord, if you are coming from Japan and have no issue in the land of the rising sun, you will find Beijing a breeze. It will take only a few nights to assemble a brevy of young female friends if you follow the beginners guide.
JohnThomas0519
04-30-07, 21:29
Flying into BJ on May 2nd for short visit. Did not realize that it is a holiday. Can anyone tell me if the young ladies will be gone. Or will they be in greater demand due to the holidays?
Flying into BJ on May 2nd for short visit. Did not realize that it is a holiday. Can anyone tell me if the young ladies will be gone. Or will they be in greater demand due to the holidays?
Things are generally "quieter" since many head home to be with their families. What you'll find are the die-hard pros left
Sebastian My
05-01-07, 02:55
Flying into BJ on May 2nd for short visit. Did not realize that it is a holiday. Can anyone tell me if the young ladies will be gone. Or will they be in greater demand due to the holidays?
Based on my observations yesterday The Pig at Lido had a good supply of mongolians - i must admit i did not speak to any Chinese so the number of them may have been down. As i am in my "Russian" phase right now (I go though this each 2 months for about a week) Hollywood had about 50 girls last night - which is down, but the number of Chinese customers was dramatically down. At 9pm there were only two Chinese customers - by 10pm this had grown to about 20. So i would suggest that these two venues will be ok over the holiday period. Any other comment i could make would only be a guess, so i will refrain. However i will ask my regular Chinese friend this evening what she thinks - but as she is not a professional i will probably not get any good info about supply over the Golden Week from her.
My careful investigation of Hollywood last night has caused me to re-assess my last posting on this venue, where i indicated there were not many nice looking girls.
Between 9pm and 10pm all the girls who work this place will arrive, and because of the low number of customers almost all are present as a group during this period. Thus i was able to observe and speak to an average sample, and i can say their are some very nice ones working.
Of the Russians on the entrance side of the bar i observed 1 very young and cute thing with frizzy blond hair - which actually looked natural. She was tall and thin and while not model quality, was almost their. Her two friends were also very nice, as were at least another 3 girls. On the other side of the bar i observed at least 3 almost model quality Russian girls.
The uzbecs had a good supply of less than attractive girls, but there was one tall, blond model type and at least 4 other very nice. One of these girls had the most beutiful face i have seen for a while, she was also taken out by 9:30pm and was the only girl i saw who got any business before 10pm.
In summary i would say there was a nice mix. I suspect when business is good the good looking girls go quickly, so if you turn up after 10pm on such a night you will not see a good selection.
As Golden week is normally very quiet at Hollywood i would suggest this is a good time to drop by - before 10pm if you wish to see the full range.
Answer to your question concerning going home - PRC gets about 2-3 week long holidays - everyone tries to go home for these periods if possible as its the only chance they get of seeing their mothers, fathers, etc. Thus the girls and local mongers go home if possible. The issue is that you can get a lot of tourists in town, the police and security makes it hard for the providers and the guys who normally go home in china target a different, lower cost, girl than the laowai's - so its normally not a great time for mongering if you are a laowai looking for Chinese providers. But you can still be serviced if the price is right - i just suspect the low cost options are less - but this is my opinion and other may disagree.
JohnThomas0519
05-01-07, 02:58
Things are generally "quieter" since many head home to be with their families. What you'll find are the die-hard pros leftThis is Labour Day, not Chinese New Year. Why would they go home to be with family? Are all the mongers gone to be with families also.
That might improve my odds :)
JohnThomas0519
05-01-07, 03:04
Based no my observations yesterday The Pig at Lido had a good supply of mongolians - i must admit i did not speak to any Chinese so the number of them may have been down. As i am in my ....
As Golden week is normally very quiet at Hollywood i would suggest this is a good time to drop by - before 10pm if you wish to see the full range.Thanks to last two posts. Maybe I'll run into you guys. Hope so since i could use some pointers. You will recognize me since I will be completely jet-lagged out.
I'm noticing a lot of the guys on the board here keep mentioning dinner plans with some of the local providers. I'd like to ask you guys how often you run across someone you know during these plans? And how do you introduce the person you're with? As far as I can tell the expat community is tightly knit, so it would seem easy to be caught out an about with one of the ladies. Certainly it's none of their business who you are with, but some of you must still share this concern. Any advice to offer?
If you have a real job here, you can be certain that you will be seen by someone. I am convinced that I cannot go anywhere without having someone report to my Taiwanese wife that they saw me, even when all I am doing is shopping or going to the bank. I can't tell you how many times I have heard a story about how so and so was seen in the elevator of his building, out to dinner, or at Maggies etc. If you are dumb enough to take one home, you can be certain the entire building and everyone who knows anyone in the building will know. I have heard about so many of my friends from my Ayi, who heard it from another Ayi, who heard it from a security guard.
So, if you want to get laid, do it discretely in a sauna, and try not to get seen going in or out. Even then, you are taking a chance. Or just wait till you can get out of town, where the odds are better.
Those of us who have professional reputations to uphold must be careful. BTW, if you have not noticed, Maggies is a popular drop in destination for expats with wives and friends in tow. Show them the freak show, and when they see you there, you bet the wives are talking.
Last week I went to a sauna near the Xibahe bus stop. I forget the name, but one the outside of the building it says KTV and has Korean lettering, the only one in the area. Oddly enough there's a police station right by there.
I went in for the sauna, and chatted with the attendant for a while. There aren't a lot of foreigners around Xibahe so it was kind of new for them. The guy says he loves foreigners, but I imagine he loves all foreigners. Did a quick shower and asked my "helper" for a massage. Took him a few minutes to understand what I meant when I asked for a "terbie" (special) massage.
At that point he told me I had to go to the 3rd floor and I had to buy some clothes. I had my choice of the silk pajamas or paper. If my local gf didn't come over all the time I would have bought the silk ones and used them at a lot of places, but seeing as I know if she saw them I'd be busted, I went for paper. I think it was 5 kuai.
Went up to the 3rd floor, I asked for a line up, but the guy said no. He said he'd send in a good girl and if I didn't like her I could change. I might have gotten a line up if I went later, but it was at about 3:30 in the afternoon. The girl came in and she was pretty cute so I decided to keep her. About mid 20's, nice ass, fairly thin, but not sick looking. Her tits were a little small, but ok.
I went for the 80 minute massage and fuck. It started with an oil massage, she started on my back, payed a lot of attention to my ass. Later she slid under me and fingered my ass. She asked first, which was nice, and I don't mind. She did a little rimming too, good thing I washed up earlier. Flipped me over, massaged me and eventually got to my dick. Then a little tit fucking, followed by bbj then capped me for some fs. She'd be worth a repeat if I could remember her number.
After I finished she stuck around and continued to massage me for the rest of the time. After I went back down, showered off and paid. My "helper" didn't ask for a tip and he really didn't do anything so I didn't feel a need to. Next time I'm hoping he'll get me something nicer, then I'll tip. All-in-all I paid 500 kuai. A little expensive, but the massage was really good and it was fun because they more than happy to help a foreigner since we're so rare around there.
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SidTheSexist
05-03-07, 04:14
Theres a WG operating in the alley which leads to the tree, in sanlitun. She's offering 50rmb BBBJs and will go as low as 30. Dont worry, this is not from experience, rather a very reliable source. She'll take you into one of the dark corners. This has to be the lowest I've ever heard of.
Sid
KingDiamond
05-03-07, 12:18
Hi guys,
I am new here! I am planning to visit Beijing. Can someone tell me some sauna's addresses?
Thanks
Whcih hotel have you stayed in that has the most comfortable western (relatively soft) beds?
Thanks
Member #2041
05-03-07, 20:25
Theres a WG operating in the alley which leads to the tree, in sanlitun. She's offering 50rmb BBBJs and will go as low as 30. Dont worry, this is not from experience, rather a very reliable source. She'll take you into one of the dark corners. This has to be the lowest I've ever heard of.
Sid
Try back country Cambodia or Bangladesh if you want even cheaper.
SidTheSexist
05-03-07, 21:17
Sorry "Member 2041," I am so sorry to actually specify on the BeiJing board that I actually meant IN BEIJING! So sorry that I didnt mention my umpteen experiences in Isaan or Sunuk'ville.
JohnThomas0519
05-04-07, 00:40
This might sound strange. But can someone recommend a nice clean legit massage establishment near the Forbidden City or Kerry Center.
Went to Hollywood a couple of nights ago at about 8 PM. Very slow. How far is Maggis from Hollywood? The old place is an ice cream polor.
You're joking, right? Hi, I'm new, can you guys do all my homework for me?
RTFF.
Hi guys,
I am new here! I am planning to visit Beijing. Can someone tell me some sauna's addresses?
Thanks123 Fake St.
JohnThomas0519
05-04-07, 11:21
Hey, give me a break. Thought this is a forum to share and help minimize legwork. Especially for us visitors on sever jet lag. I am perfectly capable of taking a cab to Maggies. Actually walked over there this afternoon. There are plenty of comments and advice on the how to have fun. At least for me, a legit massage is part of the visit.
In terms of contributing, go to the Berlin site. You'll enjoy some of my recommendations. It is a big world and there are far too many opportunities. We can't do homework at each site. Think it as contributing to the collective good.
Cheers
JohnThomas0519
05-04-07, 11:24
Speaking from my limited number of visits here, Hilton, St. Regis, Raffles, Beijing Grand.
For my education, where do you normally stay?
Typical Tourist
05-04-07, 11:25
Report on recent trip to Shanghai. Not much time to explore, so all of the places I went to were previously mentioned in the forum. I still hope it is useful to some. My tastes in girls might also be different from some (I prefer “girl next door” to “model” type) so I found about half of the girls below the age of 30 that I saw on the street in China attractive. So take my ranking with a grain of salt. Advice to novices like me: get a good map with English and Chinese names of the streets and you will be able to find most of the places described in the forum.
Free lancer: First night, decided to go to the Pig at the Holiday Inn Lido. All the taxi drivers seem to know it (just say “lee doo fun dee ann”). The driver was lazy so he dropped me off on the street at the front entrance. I walked a few meters and saw two slender young ladies standing at the beginning of the drive way before the gate. One tall, the other medium height. I smiled at the shorter one, and she smiled back and asked me if I wanted her tonight. I took one look at her and thought: I would not mind that at all. I asked how much, and she replied “do you have a condom”. I said yes, and asked the price again. She said 600, I said 500 and she said yes right away. She said that she is from Beijing, college student, 21 or 22 can’t remember. Decent English, without the usual bar English repertoire. Judging from her body, face, clothes, behavior, way of talking, very believable story. She was worried that my hotel was far away. Did not shower, but wash clothed herself (was clean anyway). Washed her feet in the sink. Kept on text messaging her friends in the taxi. Very non professional, and therefore refreshing, but also not interested in acting as a girlfriend to any extent. Asked for money first. I put it on the table, and she was ok. No attempt at BJ, and I did not insist. Reasonable willing sex. The whitest skin on an Asian girl I’ve seen in a while. Left right away. Seemed to be in a hurry to get back. Left me her number without me asking for it. I might have given her 30 for taxi. Overall looks 8, mediocre service, but very refreshing.
The Pig: Next day I decided to try a Mongolian, so I went to the Pig again. This time I made it (it is actually closer to the back entrance of the hotel where the starbucks is). It was a weekday, but the male-female ratio was not impressive. The quality was not great either. Many 6s, though some 7s and a few 8s. Seemed to be a number of past 30 types. One Russian girl that was not bad. Girls are fairly aggressive in approaching you. Was able to talk to a couple while waiting for a beer. Both Chinese. One girl (a 7) approached, saying that she liked my body and few seconds later her friend joined. The friend had an extremely beautiful face and smile. Just a shade darker than average urban Chinese. Not fashion model type, but the type of girl that all the guys in the school dream of having for a girlfriend. So I aborted the Mongolian plan, and started gradually concentrating on the friend. I eventually asked how much, she said 1000, I said that last night I went for 500, she said that street girls are not trustworthy and countered with 800. I said 700. She said 800, but her friend said right away that she will go for 700. So I went with the cutie for 800. None of the other girls in the bar seemed that interesting. Arrived at the hotel. She puts glasses on before entering the lobby. Very cute! Money first routine. Shower. Bed. No BJ, did not insist. Nice body even with a tiny bit of fat. Very pleasant. Very passionate and responsive in bed. Gets the most passionate girl in China award. The only thing is that she kept on trying to get more money any way she could, even if in a cute joking way. I joked that I wanted to watch her shower and she said ok for 100. When we were done, she wanted to give me a massage for 200. I asked for a good bye kiss before she left and she “joked” that it would cost me another 20. Bargained the taxi money up to 50 too.
Maggie’s: Next night was my last chance for a Mongolian experience. Went to Maggies around midnight. Told the driver south gate of Ritan park. Did not see any park or gate, but he took me to right to maggie’s. Nice bar, decent music, good guy to girl ratio. All the girls were Mongolian, I was told, ranging from 5-9, many 8s. Two western girls dancing (not p4p, but you could probably pick them up). Did not have the feel of a hostess bar at all, but more of a freelance joint. Got approached by a girl that was a 5 right away, but other girls were not aggressive, just responsive. Saw a cute one in a flower print dress, and approached. Started talking. Good English. She is a student in Mongolia. Just came back from there after extending her visa. Bought her a drink – only 30rmb. Danced with her. Extremely charming! A lot of fun! Asked about going back with me. She said 800. I agreed thinking it was LT. I would have probably agreed anyway because I was falling in love. Got to the hotel at 2am. In the light, she did not seem as good looking, but still pretty and charming. She did not seem in a hurry. Started talking about Mongolia, etc. Then when she realized that I was ready for more than talk, she asked for money in advance. Kind of killed the mood. She did not shower, though she was clean. She said no kissing, which turned out to mean she did not want me to go down on her. Kissing, BBBJ, and various positions. Willing, but not very passionate or responsive. She got a call after we were done. Said it was another client and that she needed to go. It was 4am! Did not ask for taxi money.
Qianmen BBS: Checked out BBSes reported in the forum. I went there one day to check and next day for service. Very easy to find. Qianmen subway station. Go to the southwest corner of the intersection that itself forms the southwest corner of the TianAnMen square. Walk south two small blocks, and turn right. You will be in a small local street, very busy right after working hours – restaurants, shops, beauty salons, and a few BBS. You should see a public toilet on your right 30m from the big street. In a couple of BBSes the girls will even wave at you. The quality is poor mostly 6s. The first day I saw a pretty girl (8) in a red evening dress sitting in one place (way down the street on the south side of the street), but she did not wave to me, and next day I did not see her. Also, the first day, saw a girl (7) walking down the street, but could tell that she was a working girl. She saw me looking at her and invited me for massage. Next day I could not figure out where she was going to lead me to (a small alley). So there is probably more there than meet the eye. Anyway, the day that I went there for real I went into one place on the north side of the street. One girl that was 6, who actually turned out to have a decent body pulled to the back room right away. She offered HJ for 100. I asked for FS, she wanted 300, I countered 150, and settled on 200. She brought tissues and a condom lifted her skirt, pulled down her underwear and took a quick turn to let me look. I started to take off my shoes, but she said no! Strictly keep your shoes on place. At times like this Scottish kilts have a definite advantage. A few hand strokes, condom on, legs spreading, and off you go. Did try different positions (limited by my pant width, of course). Must admit. Very tight, however. The tightest equipment I had in China. Very satisfying because of that and the novelty of the situation. Also a good effort on her part to be responsive.
Overall opinion from my limited experience is that all p4p girls in china have their own agenda. The lower down the service pole you go, the more straightforward that agenda becomes. No really positive experiences with saunas! Overall, the best service I got on this trip was not in China, even though I spent the most time there. There was an amazing amount of beautiful girls in china to fit the taste of any asiaphile, so maybe worth exploring more.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Typical Tourist
05-04-07, 11:26
Report on recent trip to Shanghai. Not much time to explore, so all of the places I went to were previously mentioned in the forum. I still hope it is useful to some. My tastes in girls might also be different from some (I prefer “girl next door” to “model” type) so I found about half of the girls below the age of 30 that I saw on the street in China attractive. So take my ranking with a grain of salt. Advice to novices like me: get a good map with English and Chinese names of the streets and you will be able to find most of the places described in the forum.
Free lancer: First night, decided to go to the Pig at the Holiday Inn Lido. All the taxi drivers seem to know it (just say “lee doo fun dee ann”). The driver was lazy so he dropped me off on the street at the front entrance. I walked a few meters and saw two slender young ladies standing at the beginning of the drive way before the gate. One tall, the other medium height. I smiled at the shorter one, and she smiled back and asked me if I wanted her tonight. I took one look at her and thought: I would not mind that at all. I asked how much, and she replied “do you have a condom”. I said yes, and asked the price again. She said 600, I said 500 and she said yes right away. She said that she is from Beijing, college student, 21 or 22 can’t remember. Decent English, without the usual bar English repertoire. Judging from her body, face, clothes, behavior, way of talking, very believable story. She was worried that my hotel was far away. Did not shower, but wash clothed herself (was clean anyway). Washed her feet in the sink. Kept on text messaging her friends in the taxi. Very non professional, and therefore refreshing, but also not interested in acting as a girlfriend to any extent. Asked for money first. I put it on the table, and she was ok. No attempt at BJ, and I did not insist. Reasonable willing sex. The whitest skin on an Asian girl I’ve seen in a while. Left right away. Seemed to be in a hurry to get back. Left me her number without me asking for it. I might have given her 30 for taxi. Overall looks 8, mediocre service, but very refreshing.
The Pig: Next day I decided to try a Mongolian, so I went to the Pig again. This time I made it (it is actually closer to the back entrance of the hotel where the starbucks is). It was a weekday, but the male-female ratio was not impressive. The quality was not great either. Many 6s, though some 7s and a few 8s. Seemed to be a number of past 30 types. One Russian girl that was not bad. Girls are fairly aggressive in approaching you. Was able to talk to a couple while waiting for a beer. Both Chinese. One girl (a 7) approached, saying that she liked my body and few seconds later her friend joined. The friend had an extremely beautiful face and smile. Just a shade darker than average urban Chinese. Not fashion model type, but the type of girl that all the guys in the school dream of having for a girlfriend. So I aborted the Mongolian plan, and started gradually concentrating on the friend. I eventually asked how much, she said 1000, I said that last night I went for 500, she said that street girls are not trustworthy and countered with 800. I said 700. She said 800, but her friend said right away that she will go for 700. So I went with the cutie for 800. None of the other girls in the bar seemed that interesting. Arrived at the hotel. She puts glasses on before entering the lobby. Very cute! Money first routine. Shower. Bed. No BJ, did not insist. Nice body even with a tiny bit of fat. Very pleasant. Very passionate and responsive in bed. Gets the most passionate girl in China award. The only thing is that she kept on trying to get more money any way she could, even if in a cute joking way. I joked that I wanted to watch her shower and she said ok for 100. When we were done, she wanted to give me a massage for 200. I asked for a good bye kiss before she left and she “joked” that it would cost me another 20. Bargained the taxi money up to 50 too.
Maggie’s: Next night was my last chance for a Mongolian experience. Went to Maggies around midnight. Told the driver south gate of Ritan park. Did not see any park or gate, but he took me to right to maggie’s. Nice bar, decent music, good guy to girl ratio. All the girls were Mongolian, I was told, ranging from 5-9, many 8s. Two western girls dancing (not p4p, but you could probably pick them up). Did not have the feel of a hostess bar at all, but more of a freelance joint. Got approached by a girl that was a 5 right away, but other girls were not aggressive, just responsive. Saw a cute one in a flower print dress, and approached. Started talking. Good English. She is a student in Mongolia. Just came back from there after extending her visa. Bought her a drink – only 30rmb. Danced with her. Extremely charming! A lot of fun! Asked about going back with me. She said 800. I agreed thinking it was LT. I would have probably agreed anyway because I was falling in love. Got to the hotel at 2am. In the light, she did not seem as good looking, but still pretty and charming. She did not seem in a hurry. Started talking about Mongolia, etc. Then when she realized that I was ready for more than talk, she asked for money in advance. Kind of killed the mood. She did not shower, though she was clean. She said no kissing, which turned out to mean she did not want me to go down on her. Kissing, BBBJ, and various positions. Willing, but not very passionate or responsive. She got a call after we were done. Said it was another client and that she needed to go. It was 4am! Did not ask for taxi money.
Qianmen BBS: Checked out BBSes reported in the forum. I went there one day to check and next day for service. Very easy to find. Qianmen subway station. Go to the southwest corner of the intersection that itself forms the southwest corner of the TianAnMen square. Walk south two small blocks, and turn right. You will be in a small local street, very busy right after working hours – restaurants, shops, beauty salons, and a few BBS. You should see a public toilet on your right 30m from the big street. In a couple of BBSes the girls will even wave at you. The quality is poor mostly 6s. The first day I saw a pretty girl (8) in a red evening dress sitting in one place (way down the street on the south side of the street), but she did not wave to me, and next day I did not see her. Also, the first day, saw a girl (7) walking down the street, but could tell that she was a working girl. She saw me looking at her and invited me for massage. Next day I could not figure out where she was going to lead me to (a small alley). So there is probably more there than meet the eye. Anyway, the day that I went there for real I went into one place on the north side of the street. One girl that was 6, who actually turned out to have a decent body pulled to the back room right away. She offered HJ for 100. I asked for FS, she wanted 300, I countered 150, and settled on 200. She brought tissues and a condom lifted her skirt, pulled down her underwear and took a quick turn to let me look. I started to take off my shoes, but she said no! Strictly keep your shoes on place. At times like this Scottish kilts have a definite advantage. A few hand strokes, condom on, legs spreading, and off you go. Did try different positions (limited by my pant width, of course). Must admit. Very tight, however. The tightest equipment I had in China. Very satisfying because of that and the novelty of the situation. Also a good effort on her part to be responsive.
Overall opinion from my limited experience is that all p4p girls in china have their own agenda. The lower down the service pole you go, the more straightforward that agenda becomes. No really positive experiences with saunas! Overall, the best service I got on this trip was not in China, even though I spent the most time there. There was an amazing amount of beautiful girls in china to fit the taste of any asiaphile, so maybe worth exploring more.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
KingDiamond
05-04-07, 22:16
[QUOTE=Spooje]Last week I went to a sauna near the Xibahe bus stop. I forget the name, but one the outside of the building it says KTV and has Korean lettering, the only one in the area. Oddly enough there's a police station right by there.
Which district spooje? Is there a metro station close??
I checked out Hollywood a couple of days ago around 10 pm. The ratio of guys to gals was about 1:3. Most of the Russians were about 5-7, their were a few Mongols and Koreans, but I since I was there for the Ruskies, I ignored the Mongols and Koreans. It was hard to miss a stunning 19-20 yr old peroxide blond model type sitting by the bar, who was clearly the only 10 in the joint. Unfortunatly she was a cold fish. I saw a few guys try to chat her up but she just ignored them and smoked her cigarettes. She must have the older woman as her agent because the older woman would always speak with the guys. She must have a lot of special conditions for this model because none of the guys ended up taking her out. I didn't want to waste my time with a cold fish so I walked around and saw a friendly looking 8 who had just walked in. Before she could put her purse down, I approached, struk a deal and we were out the door. She said we had to take the club's taxi, which cost 50rmb, otherwise the club would get mad. Having no choice, we jumped in one and went to the Grand Hyatt. She was very friendly, was a student studying medicine in Russia and on her second trip to Beijing. I can't remember her name, but she had nice firm be cups and a beaurtiful body. The best part was she spoke perfect english which was very helpful. CBJ, Doggie (her favorite) and then pounded her hard in missonary to completion. We cuddled after I finished and then both jumped into the shower. She kissed me goodnight and asked that I see her again at the Hollywood as she'd be here for 3 months. Definitely will!
Does anyone know whether what she said about the 50rmb club taxis is true?
LittleGoomba
05-05-07, 09:13
She was very friendly, was a student studying medicine in Russia and on her second trip to Beijing. I can't remember her name, but she had nice firm be cups and a beaurtiful body. The best part was she spoke perfect english which was very helpful. CBJ, Doggie (her favorite) and then pounded her hard in missonary to completion. We cuddled after I finished and then both jumped into the shower. She kissed me goodnight and asked that I see her again at the Hollywood as she'd be here for 3 months. Definitely will!
Can you tell us how much you paid for your lovely doctor?
I was in Beijing for a week last year. The maid came into my room and I tipped her, because I knew it was unlikely I would see her again.
This may have been a coincidence but that evening two cards had been slipped under the door of my room. No doubt the maid noticed that I was a foreigner and I was generous! One was for a Chinese girl and the other for a Russian. I was too busy to bother last year. I will be going to Beijing again in a few weeks and I want to be more adventurous this time. Has this happened to anyone else? If so did you make use of the offer and how successful was it?
Unfortunately, I cannot venture out of the hotel because I will be with a female colleague who happens to be Chinese. She would either worry like hell or would know what I was up to if I left the hotel for any length of time.
I would appreciate any advice and of course would report back on my experience.
[QUOTE=Spooje]Last week I went to a sauna near the Xibahe bus stop. I forget the name, but one the outside of the building it says KTV and has Korean lettering, the only one in the area. Oddly enough there's a police station right by there.
Which district spooje? Is there a metro station close??Guanximen station isn't too far. Xibahe is on 3rd ring road, in the North East corner.
Sebastian My
05-05-07, 23:41
She said we had to take the club's taxi, which cost 50rmb, otherwise the club would get mad.
Does anyone know whether what she said about the 50rmb club taxis is true?
Yes, Hollywood will threaten to not renew her "membership" card if she does not use the official cars for the clients on a regular basis. Sometimes the cars will take the girl back as well, for an extra RM50, so you may occasionally be asked for this as well - but normally the girls don't bother as they even consider the cars a rip off. If no-one is looking the girl will sometimes sneak you past the cars - but as bussiness is slow right now its unlikely this is possible right now. Too many Club Taxi drivers waiting for business.
JohnThomas0519
05-06-07, 01:05
"who was clearly the only 10 in the joint. Unfortunatly she was a cold fish. I saw a few guys try to chat her up but she just ignored them and smoked her cigarettes. She must have the older woman as her agent because the older woman would always speak with the guys. She must have a lot of special conditions for this model because none of the guys ended up taking her out. I didn't want to waste my time with a cold fish"
Good call. I was also there. She was in a cluster. Being from the States and lusted all over Europe, she was a 8 at most. Nice little body though. Long legs etc. But why would anyone want to bone someone with an attitude like that. She is a hooker for Christ's sake. Attitude is critical for me. Given how slow that night was, I hope they went home dry and broke. What's with the 800 RMB and 1 pop thing?
Thanks for info on the hotel limo service. Also fell for waiter selling me a warm beer for 35RMB. Like they say, a sucker born every minute.
For me this is as much sport as getting laid. Happy hunting.
Pro Hunter
05-06-07, 20:02
Pro Hunter,
In the past, I had some SW from the street in front of LH shopping mall and HRC. All my experience there is negative. They might charge you less than a HRC girl (e.g. 400 for ST), but the quality and / or attitude is low. Once I had a quite pretty one of about 20 years. But she was so horribly dry that event the condom broke. Not a nice imagination.
On the other hand, I had several girls from the HRC and was never really disappointed. The prices were somewhat higher, though (e.g. 800 for LT).
I also had once a girl from the Pig. She was really great.
From Maggies I also had a few, and the experiences were mixed. One agreed only to ST, and then when we wanted to start, she received (or pretended to receive?) a phone call from a "good customer". I.e. she told me that she has only limited time, because she needs to see him. I was so pissed off and was about to through her out. But then, she agreed to stay for 2 hours, which was enough for me. Then, her attitude and talent was not even so bad.
My next try is probably the Pig again.
Wonderer
Hi Wonderer,
Good to have your reply at this hour as I am about to try those on the street. You are right. They charge from 300-600 but I guess they will ask for more when they are in the room.
I have nto been to Pig and think of explore one day after seeing a lot of positive feedback abt the girls in pig.
Pro Hunter
05-06-07, 20:08
Mate the 'price' is whatever you can negotiate.
I have had double headers off the street for RMB300 each - these girls are all freelancers and free to charge whatever the 2 of you agree on.
Go for it - it is little money - if the experience is no good what have you lost?
Maybe you are right, what we have to lose is the price is only 300, but just wonder if any syndicate or gangster that will "follow" to the room after you both entered. That is another worry.
If you have heard anything abt that, do you mind to share?
Sebastian My
05-07-07, 03:05
"who was clearly the only 10 in the joint. Unfortunatly she was a cold fish. I saw a few guys try to chat her up but she just ignored them and smoked her cigarettes. She must have the older woman as her agent because the older woman would always speak with the guys. She must have a lot of special conditions for this model because none of the guys ended up taking her out. I didn't want to waste my time with a cold fish"
Good call. I was also there. She was in a cluster. Being from the States and lusted all over Europe, she was a 8 at most. Nice little body though. Long legs etc. But why would anyone want to bone someone with an attitude like that. She is a hooker for Christ's sake. Attitude is critical for me. Given how slow that night was, I hope they went home dry and broke. What's with the 800 RMB and 1 pop thing?
Thanks for info on the hotel limo service. Also fell for waiter selling me a warm beer for 35RMB. Like they say, a sucker born every minute.
For me this is as much sport as getting laid. Happy hunting.
Just a note, sometimes the girls act "cold" because they are very new to the game and are afraid. I am not sure which "10" or whatever is the "Cold Fish" in this posting, but there are 2 tall (175cm+), thin girls with long blond hair working right now, who are model, or close to model class.
1. One stands near the bar near the entrance, normally with 2 other girls. She is about 19yr old, has long frizzy blond hear (real) and comes from St Petersburg and has been working for about 3 weeks. Because she does not speak much english one of her friends, a tall older olive skinned girl helps out. She certainly acts like a cold fish, but after speaking with her, she becomes very friendly. Her problem is she is new to the game and scared. If you go up to her and ask how much, try and negociate, ask for any strange sexual service, or you appear rough and scary - she will be too scared to say yes.
2. On the other hand the other girl is uzbek, stands around the pool table, or the tables close to the pool table, or sometimes at the bar on the corner closest to the pool table. This girl is a real professional, speaks good english, is in my opinion model class, has a very nice face and is also tall and thin and is about 21. If she is cold, its because she thinks you are a bad risk. She also prefer's chinese customers and she tends to get several tricks an evening. Best time to tackle her is about 11:00.
So, while i agree these girls are not the best sales folks, they often are remote and cool to hide their fear or to maximise their revenue and minimise their risks.
One other note, once you find someone you like "Be Quick". These girls observe all the new customers as they come, they may make eye contacts or move around in a sexy manner for about 5 min, if you do not approach them they think you are only their to look and they ignore you for the rest of the evening. I know this is a pain, i like to observer for a while, but them are the rules it seems.
Maybe you are right, what we have to lose is the price is only 300, but just wonder if any syndicate or gangster that will "follow" to the room after you both entered. That is another worry.
If you have heard anything abt that, do you mind to share?
Pro Hunter -
Assuming you are staying in a 3+ star hotel I think there is very little chance of gangsters following you to your hotel room. Even if the girl called them and told them what room you were it, they would be taking a big risk as the hotel would be on your side.
If you went with the girl back to her place, then that would be a different story. You are then taking a risk that her "brother" or "boy friend" will bust in and try to get more money from you. This has never happened to me, but one time I went with a Chinese girl back to her apartment and she locked her front door on me. She then tried to extort more money from me. I told her that if she did not open the door I would just start shouting. I knew her neighbors would not be too pleased with a visitor shouting in the middle of the night, even if they already knew what she did for a living. Needless to say, she opened the door up very quickly for me.
Sammy
Hollywood Experts -
I have been to Hollywood several times at different times in the evening, and it is always hit-and-miss for me. Can someone help me out by answering the following questions:
What time do the girls start to show up at Hollywood, ie. the absolute earilest you would every want to go and have someone of a selection?
When is the "peak" time when there is the best representation of girls?
When does it empty out, ie. the latest you would ever want to go and still have somewhat of a selection?
Does a drink come with the cover charge, or not? I seem to remeber that it did in the past, but on my last visit I do not think it did.
Are the taxi's that the girls are required to take real taxis, or just guys in cars? Is it a flat 50 RMB anywhere in the city, or if they take me to the lido area are they going to hit me for 100 RMB? I do not want to get the girl in trouble, but at the same time I am not going to pay some taxi to rip me off when I know better.
Sammy
Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Went there a bit before the may holidays. As this was the first sauna I've been to. I have no comparision. But I thought the place was relatively clean but rather a bit small. The sauna is at least 2 floors. Checked in. Showered. Went up. Ordered the 600 service. That included BJ and fs. The girl asked me if I wanted a BBBJ at no extra charge. But I declined. Don't know if thats offered to everyone. But hey. I like to be safe. As reported before. There is a 800 service. But that only includes getting oiled down and having your own hole played with on top of the 600 service. I heard there was a 1000 service. But I have no idea what that throws in. As I mentioned earlier the place isn't that big. And so they only have around 10 girls to choose from. At any given day they have around 7-8ppl to choose from. They do let you choose who you want but the choices arent many. Though there are pretty good looking for the most part. Which brings me to my question. Which sauna in beijing is relatively bigger with a more diverse pool of ladies to choose from? I don't like the whole we'll just send some random chick to your room. And you can keep turning them down until you find the right one. That wastes a lot of time.
Pro Hunter,
Wish you good luck at the Pig, and don't forget to report about your experience. It's all learning from each other.
Pro Hunter and Sammy_T,
I have been hunting in China for many years and have never had any bad experience with the "brother" or "boyfriend" threatening me. I have to admit that it was very rare, though, that I followed to her (or their - if they were two) room.
Only once, many, many years ago, I think it was in 1994, I followed a pimp in Beijing. They brought me to a remote place in a dark street. As soon as I was in that dark bar, two girls were around me and started to drink. One promised to visit me in my hotel - all BS, of course.
After about 5 minutes the situation was clear to me, and I wanted to leave. At the end I was lucky that they "only" wanted about 1000 Rmb... As I refused, a number of tall guys were around, and I decided to give in. It was certainly better like this.
Then, I was lucky again. When I left the bar, a taxi just arrived bringing some 4 Japanese to the bar. I immediately jumped into the taxi and left the place of horror. Had there been no taxi just arriving, I still don't know how I could have found my way out in a street without any light and without knowing where the hell I am.
This was an important lesson, and I'll never forget.
Wonderer - and safe hunting!
Pro Hunter
05-07-07, 17:35
Pro Hunter -
Assuming you are staying in a 3+ star hotel I think there is very little chance of gangsters following you to your hotel room. Even if the girl called them and told them what room you were it, they would be taking a big risk as the hotel would be on your side.
If you went with the girl back to her place, then that would be a different story. You are then taking a risk that her "brother" or "boy friend" will bust in and try to get more money from you. This has never happened to me, but one time I went with a Chinese girl back to her apartment and she locked her front door on me. She then tried to extort more money from me. I told her that if she did not open the door I would just start shouting. I knew her neighbors would not be too pleased with a visitor shouting in the middle of the night, even if they already knew what she did for a living. Needless to say, she opened the door up very quickly for me.
Sammy
Shout it out loudly is a good one. I like it, yeah!
I am not staying in hotel. I work here as expat and stay in my own apartment. I have never followed a girl back to her house as I know the risk is there. I used to take them back to my apartment and now I started to feel bad as they will come back to disturb sometimes.
Thanks for the follow up threads, guys.
LittleGoomba, I paid 800RMB for the Russian medical student (not yet a doctor). It's the same for all the girls at Hollywood.
Sebastian, thanks for the info on the club taxi.
JohnThomas, that 10 that I didn't go after was not a 8, but a true 10. She had a knockout face and looked like she should be in a magazine covershot. She was wearing a dress tht night and looked very high class--almost the opposite of all the other girls that night. She may be the first one Sebastian mentioned in his 2nd post. She sat with 2 other girls at the bar. The difference is that she sat on the inside part of the bar facing the tables to the back and she had curly blond hair. But no way was that natural blond. It was too bright. She wasnt there when I went last night.
SammyT, the club cabs are regular cars parked in front of the club entry. They have no markings and no meters. Their were 4 parked in front when I came out, my girl motioned to the group of drivers smoking cigaretes and one guy jumps up and drives us off. The driver was actually a nice and funny guy. I was there at 10 pm and it looked like most of the russians were already there. The place is dark and I dont feel particularly safe with the gangster looking "bouncers' at the front door. But it's interesting.
Most of these girls say they have an apartment that they share with another girl and we can use that if we don't want to go to a hotel. Has anyone done that and is it safe?
MikeInSeattle
05-07-07, 23:23
From the reports I have read, it seems that the best paces to visit in Beijing are:
The Pig
Hollywood
Maggies
Can some one please give me full addresses for these places as most taxi drivers in beijing don't speak english and probably won't understand just by name. Please list any other similar bars with top end girls if I missed in the list.
Sebastian My
05-08-07, 01:32
Hollywood Experts -
I have been to Hollywood several times at different times in the evening, and it is always hit-and-miss for me. Can someone help me out by answering the following questions:
What time do the girls start to show up at Hollywood, ie. the absolute earilest you would every want to go and have someone of a selection?
When is the "peak" time when there is the best representation of girls?
When does it empty out, ie. the latest you would ever want to go and still have somewhat of a selection?
Does a drink come with the cover charge, or not? I seem to remeber that it did in the past, but on my last visit I do not think it did.
Are the taxi's that the girls are required to take real taxis, or just guys in cars? Is it a flat 50 RMB anywhere in the city, or if they take me to the lido area are they going to hit me for 100 RMB? I do not want to get the girl in trouble, but at the same time I am not going to pay some taxi to rip me off when I know better.
Sammy
1. Girls start showing up from 8:30pm - but 9:00pm is the time most of the girls target on a reasonable day. IF business is bad the girls may come in at 10:00pm, but never later.
2. Between 9pm and 10pm is the best time - all girls are on deck and the number of customers are reasonable so not many of them would of gone. After 10pm the customers start taking the best one out, so by 10:30pm you may be left with only average girls.
3. By midnight its dead, the girls start existing from 11:30pm if it looks like there is minimal business, but they normally all go for dinner at midnight. They try and get a bite to eat next door before the russian guys get too drunk.
4. IF you are a western guy, you get no free drink. I am pretty sure if you are a local, or even if you are a russian girl doing a one-off, you get a drink.
5. Taxis are guys in cars. I have never had any issues. They charge RM50 if you are not too far away, RM100 if you are far away. Very rarely you will be asked for some money so the taxi can wait and take the girl back, but this has only ever happened once to me, out of about 50. If you are unsure ask for the price before you leave. One option i have tried is give the girl you hotel address and arrange to meet her 30min later in the lobby. The girls often prefer this, especially if the police are active. But the girl has to have good english and you may need to offer to pay the normal taxi fare.
But the situation changes so much from evening to evening its possible to turn up and have a crap time one evening, yet other times when all you wish to do is to have a drink and a perv, you are bombarded with such a good selection you end up taking out someone.
KingDiamond
05-08-07, 20:47
[QUOTE=KingDiamond]Guanximen station isn't too far. Xibahe is on 3rd ring road, in the North East corner.Thanks Spooje
JohnThomas0519
05-09-07, 02:21
You can walk to Maggies from Hollywood. Neighborhood is very safe since a number of embassies are there. Full of security. Only danger is being run over by the crazy drivers. No one seems to obey the traffic lights.
Hollywood is definitely full of russians. The range varies. Some real babes along with some dogs. Trouble with this place is attitude of doormen and staff. Air quality is another problem as it is defintely marlboro country.
Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this.
BTW, thanks for info on the bar taxis in front of hollywood. Was confused why all those cars are parked there with drivers. Also does anyone know what the going rate is for the russian girls for an overnite?
Hi all,
I will be staying at Tianlun beginning june and intend to visit the KTV. I was wondering how much I should prepare for a visit to the KTV. I did a search but it was rather old reports just hope to get an update. The prices stated are for groups of 5-6 guys also.
Since I intend to visit alone as I do not know anyone in Beijing - May i know if there are rooms for a small party (maybe 2-3 people) and how much will it cost. To my understand it will cost appx 1000RMB which will include 2 bottles? The next question is if I can't finish the liquour, will the KTV be able to hold it for a next visit and how much will this next visit cost me?
Just to re-confirm the appx amount is
Mami : 200-300RMB
Girl tips : 400RMB
Takeout (may i ask if this is LT?) : as high as 2000RMB?
Of course I take this chance to have any seniors to join me and show me the ropes if you are free and I am not bringing you any trouble. Also helps to split the cost :P Will post my FR for my 6 day trip to PEK. :)
Cheers!
Brass
[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]
Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this. QUOTE]
Maggies keeps the local authorities happy by only having Laowai working girls for Laowai guys, ie not a problem for China. Thats why they can operate openly and in the embassy area. If they had a lot of Chinese customers then I guess they would be closed down.
SidTheSexist
05-09-07, 07:10
I was approached by a mongolian in maggies (suprisingly) last weekend. It was about 4am. She asked me straight up, you want to go with me? I asked how much and she said 1000rmb. I said no, too much. She asked me how much I would pay. Told her 400, expecting a slap in the face. She came back with 600 so I said OK. She said, back to her place so I put her through the usual questioning of where abouts, roomates, chinese building etc? It was all good, so off we went. Intl building in WangJing, roomates out for the night, and 600rmb for LT.
Done the deed, which was nothing much, never mind memorable for me. I was out like a light on the bed and the next thing I know, its 7am and shes got me up. Theres two angry mongolian roomates (of whom, I think 1 I had, had previous dealings) sitting in the front room and my girl is zipping up the biggest suitcase Ive ever seen. We ended up rushing out of the apartment and down to the taxi rank where she jumped in and sped off to the airport to catch her flight to Ulan Bator!!!! so much for my LT!!!
Another Maggies experience ticked off the list!!
Sid :D
From the reports I have read, it seems that the best paces to visit in Beijing are:
The Pig
Hollywood
Maggies
Can some one please give me full addresses for these places as most taxi drivers in beijing don't speak english and probably won't understand just by name. Please list any other similar bars with top end girls if I missed in the list.Easiest way is to go to the conceirge desk at the hotel you are at, and ask him to write directions to each place on separate hotel cards. Write a note in English on them so you know which one is which, and you can easily go from one place to another. Have one for the Pig, Suzy Wong's and HRC too. And you should be able to find someone during the course of the night.
I came back from my first time holidays in China 3 weeks ago. Not a mongering holiday but I keep my eyes open. Priority was being a regular tourist. My first stop was Beijing with the regular tourist sites, the Wall, Forbidden City. I did some reading in the forum in advance, and I have to say the China forum very active. Thanks to you guys who invest your time in creating and posting maps with actual locations and even satellite images from Google Earth, just a fantastic tool for a guy who just landed in town. I had just one night out, Saturday. I started by going to Sanlitun, and I just landed in the middle of it. I was actually looking for an ordinary bar, but there was only ladybars. I walked the street from north to south and when I finally came to the end of the street, I took some time to talk to a mama. She claimed 800 for a night take-away, which didn’t sound to bad considering the prices stated in this forum. It’s still more than 100 USD. Actually find China quite pricy compared to other Asian destinations. According to the business card she is a Supervisor Manager at Beijing ShiXin Girl Club. But I had plans for the night so I walked to Mix, a potential freebee place? Well, not my kind of place really, one of those to noisy discos with bad music. Was a 50 RMB entry fee, no drinks included. Had a beer and looked around a bit. Took a taxi to Suzy Wong. Better place for me. Not so much people there, obviously ladies night on Wednesday is the night. Looked into a pub on the other side of the street, G&D, but was almost empty. It was late, so took a taxi back to the hotel. Very convenient using taxi inn Beijing. Never had any problems and they switch on the meter as soon as they start. Should have done my night out in the other directions, but had a good time.
Off to Yangshuo. See Guilin
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I love Mongolians and your city has a lot of hot ones to offer. I had the Pleasure of spending time with Erka and Onorro when I was in Beijing over a year ago. They were unfortgetable experiences.
I will be in town around May 20 and would love to get together with them again. Anyone knows if they are in town?
Thanks,
Joe
Steve Naive
05-13-07, 10:29
Saturday
Nothing doing - too early - on the 3rd Ring Road as we headed to a restaurant at 8pm... except guys who wanted to take us to bars for ladies. By 9pm one slim and reasonably ok lady was offering massage (means sex). But I'm with a colleague I don't know well, so I ignored her. Alone, I would be stopping to chat, at least.
Coming back to Hilton on Saturday night, three girls in the lobby, on a couch or chair not far from the elevator area, one giving me the look. I did not do more than get her number then, again trying to be discreet.
Later on, after a "clean" massage at the place next to Hilton, only one girl left in the lobby. How much? She said "two dollars" but I think she meant $200. I opened my wallet to show Chinese money and she said 1000.
These girls rated 5-6. With better ladies, good attitude on the sidewalk south of here towards Great Wall Sheraton / Hard Rock, it's generally 500-600, so I see little reason to pay more for less-attractive women in the Hilton lobby... well, there's the convenience factor, I suppose, which is why they command a higher price. And perhaps they had to pay someone to be there in the first place. I have never seen lobby girls here in previous visits.
Yes, I know about the bars and other options, but I like the convenience of the strip.
Sunday
Afternoon: called Lili. She wants 1000. Too much, I say, and hang up.
9pm: A walk along 3rd ring road, Luftansa in the direction of HRC. There are usually ladies on this strip between 9-11pm. Before I got to "the strip" proper, I was greeted by a cute petite Chinese girl, Li Xue, about a 7 on my scale. How much? You tell me. So I say 500. She asks 600 but settles on my offer. I figure if I'm totally pleased I tip her to her amount or more.
A happy, giggly, puppy dog of a girl, she is very pleasant to be with. Petite, ample boobs, small amount of chub on her waist. Smiles and laughs a lot, teases me a bit. Showers me nicely. No BJ, though, and I didn't ask. I like that as an appetizer, but it isn't a huge thing for me. She was enthusiastic enough but rushed me a little, so I was less than satisfied, but it was nice. Another shower. An offer to stay for another 400, but I have a long day tomorrow.
I have reasonably good luck on this strip, getting girls who are cute enough and have a cheerful attitude (one I reported last year was singing as we headed to the hotel). I have also talked to (and walked on from) girls who are a bit more hardened. Never a problem with security in my room, though I don't leave things out and they usually don't spend the night. Hilton staff greets me as I walk in with a girl, never a question.
What I especially like is that with a 7 minute walk I can quickly get company in the middle evening. The only thing better would be if they were available all day and night, but 9-11pm seems to be prime time here.
[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this. QUOTE]Maggies keeps the local authorities happy by only having Laowai working girls for Laowai guys, ie not a problem for China. Thats why they can operate openly and in the embassy area. If they had a lot of Chinese customers then I guess they would be closed down.To clarify further, prostitution is illegal in China. So Chinese men paying foreign (Mongolian) girls for sex is illegal. Sex between consenting foreigners even if one pays the other is tolerated.
I have stayed more than 100 nights at the Hilton and never had any problems bringing girls in. If you take one from Maggies after 1 am or so, reception is normally deserted. There will only be a guard who will look ostentatiously the other way.
Personally, I wouldn't touch the sidewalk girls as I don't think it is safe or even clean.
Besides, Mongolians are much more to my taste, both in physique and attitude. But 1000 RMB is indeed the price for LT, unless you are picking her up after 3 AM (beware you may be her second catch of the night).
Nothing doing on the 3rd Ring Road as we headed to a restaurant at 8pm... except guys who wanted to take us to bars for ladies. By 9pm one slim and reasonably ok lady was offering massage (which means sex). But I'm with a colleague I don't know well, so I ignored her.
Coming back to Hilton on Saturday night, three girls in the lobby, on a couch or chair not far from the elevator area, one giving me the look. I did not do more than get her number then, again trying to be discreet.
Later on, after a massage, only one left in the lobby. How much? She said "two dollars" but I think she meant $200. I opened my wallet to show Chinese money and she said 1000. The one whose number I got, when I called next day, also said 1000.
These girls were 5 or 6 at best. I have often found worthwhile ladies with a nice attitude on the sidewalk south of hear towards Great Wall Sheraton / Hard Rock, generally 500-600, so I see little reason to pay more for less-attractive women in the Hilton lobby... well, there's the convenience factor, I suppose, which is why they command a higher price. And perhaps they had to pay someone to be there in the first place. I have never seen lobby girls here before.
Yes, I know I can do much better by going farther afield.
If anyone has current numbers to get a girl sent to my room, I'd be grateful, as it is convenient when I have to be discreet. If you do PM me, please include expected price. Thanks.
I love Mongolians and your city has a lot of hot ones to offer. I had the Pleasure of spending time with Erka and Onorro when I was in Beijing over a year ago. They were unfortgetable experiences.
I will be in town around May 20 and would love to get together with them again. Anyone knows if they are in town?
Thanks,
JoeErka was still in Beijing a few weeks ago. I spent one evening with her at Maggies, and even if she ended a little drunk, she showed a very nice attitude, especially for the morning call :-)
Patricklim1234
05-13-07, 18:09
I was interested in how the Chinese scene here in Beijing works compared with the FKKs over in Germany. So I dropped by all three places, The Pig, Hollywood and Maggies to see what differences there would be.
The Pig - I did a quick drop by this place, the standard of girls was about a 5-6 to me when I went at about 10pm. There was a good selection, ranging from young to old, short to tall, etc. There were only 2 caucasian girls, I assume to be russian, I'd rate them an 8 and a 7. I didn't stay long as the place was too small and I wasn't interested in any of the women anyway.
The Hollywood - I spent more time here, so more comments. There was much more action here, the place seem to be a little bigger. I arrived here at 10.30pm. For both the asian / mongolian as well as the russian / caucasian women, I'd say there was a pretty good range of 4-9. The better ones get picked fast and go off to the hotels with their clients. Going early and hard in on the person that first turns you on might be a good idea, as you have no idea when she might be returning. The standard price here seems to be 800 ST, 2400 LT for both the asians as well as the russians. The turnover rate here seems to be very high, as in, people come in and leave fast. Once they've found their partner, they leave the place.
Maggies - I wasn't allowed in, I later found out from the Taxi driver that it was because they only allowed caucasians in (I am asian). No matter, from the outside I could more or less tell the situation, which I was more interested in. The women seem to only be chinese / mongolian, I was intrigued and asked the taxi driver who later sent me home, he said that that is the case for this club. So for those who like these kind of women, please go ahead. I saw about 10 girls total enter the club, they ranged from 4-7.5. The bad thing I noticed about this place was that there seem to be quite a number of men leaving alone. I only saw 2 guys leaving with women while about 6 guys left alone.
FKKs - For those who haven't been to the better FKKs in Germany, you are definitely missing out. After a 65 Euros entrance fee, for 50 Euros (~500RMB) you can get a good fuck with a girl of your choice and they parade around naked. I find the standard of women in the better FKKs definitely better than my experience here for the night. I'm personally more into caucasian blonds, so perhaps I'm a little bias and more suited there. One disadvantage I found in FKKs is that you can't go LT with them. But of course, there have been quite a number of horror stories regarding girls leaving early here in China.
Overall I think it is a matter of taste, in what kind of women you like. China is definitely a great place for asian pussy, and a lot of women seem to be throwing themselves at most caucasian men. Eithercase, good luck all.
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Hi Patricklim1234
the following is the best way to get in to Maggies if you are Asian
1. Walk in with a group of white guys, speak English to the bouncers IF they challange you. Normally the bouncers won't say anything if you are in a foreign looking group.
2. Show your passport
What ever you do, do not speak Chinese to the door staff if you are Asian looking.
Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.
66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?
MazterMac
Steve Naive
05-14-07, 11:03
I have stayed more than 100 nights at the Hilton and never had any problems bringing girls in. If you take one from Maggies after 1 am or so, reception is normally deserted. There will only be a guard who will look ostentatiously the other way.).
You have been to Hilton much more htan me, but I never had a problem bringing a girl into Hilton (or Sheraton GW or Trader's). At the latter two the same (invited) girl managed to get to my door with no problem. My only reason for being discrete at Hilton is a work colleague I don't know well.
Personally, I wouldn't touch the sidewalk girls as I don't think it is safe or even clean.
I keep reading that here, and I don't know why. My experiences, though limited, have been both safe and clean. I even made it a point to look and smell last night, even though there was no direct contact there. Sure, there have been some I have passed by that I could imagine neither clean nor safe. But I didn't take them to find out.
Besides, Mongolians are much more to my taste, both in physique and attitude. But 1000 RMB is indeed the price for LT, unless you are picking her up after 3 AM (beware you may be her second catch of the night).
I was quoted 1000 ST by two (separate) Chinese ladies in the Hilton. Not worth it to me, since I have better choices for less.
I've never had the pleasure of a Mongolian, but hope that might change during this trip. Attitude-wise, the sidewalk girls I have had have been pleasant, though this recent one rushed me a bit too much. GFE-wise, I still like Thai girls the best... in Thailand.
What's the EARLIEST time for reasonably getting one from Maggie's? I'm not a late night guy.
Steve Naive
05-14-07, 11:29
I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in July, but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?
The worker'S stadium is expending space for the Olympic Game in 2008. The current site of Maggie'S bar has been included in the expending area. As a result, we have found a new location in RiTan Park and we are moving in mid of July. We will keep updating the moving information on the web site and posters inside the bar.
Yes, this is old, Maggies is currently located near the South Gate of Ri Tan Park. It's at the intersection of Jian Hua Road and GuangHua Road. The place they're saying they "will be" moving to is the spot that they're been at already for a while. In fact it's been there since I first visited about 10 months ago.
G
This is perhaps old news to locals and regulars, but according to their Web site they will move again in July. It was news to me, but I'm neither local nor regular here.
Yes, this is old news. Maggies is directly next to the south gate of Ri Tan park, at the intersection of GuangHau Road an JianHau Road. It's been there for at least the last 10 months or so, which was the first time that I visited there.
G
I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in July, but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?
I reported a few months ago that Wangjing MP did offer FS when you call the girls to your place... Anyways, visited a soapland in Shanghai and they are kick ass, any place similar to those in Beijing?
Will be in Beijing and staying in Comfort inn & suites in Gongti Beilu. Anybody know if this is guest friendly place?
Next month I will stay at The Great Wall Sheraton - Beijing. Is there any night club inside the hotel building, where I can pick up girls to bring to my room? What are the girls rates?
Many thanks in advance.
I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in July, but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?Maggie's has been at the south gate of Ritan Park for almost two years now.
I've never had the pleasure of a Mongolian, but hope that might change during this trip. Attitude-wise, the sidewalk girls I have had have been pleasant, though this recent one rushed me a bit too much. GFE-wise, I still like Thai girls the best... in Thailand.
What's the EARLIEST time for reasonably getting one from Maggie's? I'm not a late night guy.Earliest to get one from Maggie's is probably 11 PM. But if you are in need of a Mongolian earlier than that, you can try either the Pig or Hard Rock. Not all of them go there though. They all go to Maggie's.
Allow me to disagree on the other point. Although I do like Thai girls in Thailand, GFE wise there is nothing like Philipinas. In Philippines (although cariocas can also be great. In Rio).
I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in July, but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?If you're in Hilton tonight I'll be glad to show you.
Erka was still in Beijing a few weeks ago. I spent one evening with her at Maggies, and even if she ended a little drunk, she showed a very nice attitude, especially for the morning call :-)Thanks Pier20, I hope Erka is still there next week. What a hot body and attitude. Can't wait.
SidTheSexist
05-15-07, 04:25
Nice to see the Wangjing MP is still turning over. I havent been for ages. Maybe even 1 year!
Sid
Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.
66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?
MazterMacIt's been some time since I last contributed to the board. Have been laying low. As per MazterMac report, yes, I did encounter the same incident, but it was only 1 girl. Guess you are either charming or handsome.
I suppose they have their needs as well, cause they don't demand extras, but of course I do give them some extra tips to make up for their GFE.
Have to thank Sid again for the information as he is the one that shared this information to all here in the board!
Sebastian My
05-15-07, 06:09
I was interested in how the Chinese scene here in Beijing works compared with the FKKs over in Germany. So I dropped by all three places, The Pig, Hollywood and Maggies to see what differences there would be.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Comparing these 3 establishments with FKK clubs in Germany (or Czech) may be a bit unfair. Maggies and the Pig are designed for foreign guys, rather than locals. Hollywood is designed for locals, like FKK clubs, but this is a unique establishment in China and only exists because of the large number of Russians in Beijing during the cold war. I think a better comparison would be KTV's, BBS and Massage places. While not Beijing, the massage in the shanghai hotel compares quiet favourably with FKK's and i bet you can't get girls swinging around like monkeys using red velvet ropes while servicing you in a FKK club - or girls licking out your anal passage.
Sojourner2
05-15-07, 07:50
Next month I will stay at The Great Wall Sheraton - Beijing. Is there any night club inside the hotel building, where I can pick up girls to bring to my room? What are the girls rates?
Many thanks in advance.I haven't been inside the Sheraton for a long time, and from what I recall here, the nightclub inside isn't to be recommended and is overpriced. However, if you step outside the Sheraton, especially late at night on the walk over to Hard Rock Cafe, chances are you'll be accosted by several madams and pimps with offers of girls that are waiting in cars nearby. Alternatively, head into the Hard Rock Cafe after 11 pm, and you may find some selections worthy of consideration. Finally, there is often street action along the walkway from HRC to Lufthansa Center, just up the road.
I have been to Beijing many times over the years. It is amazing how the city has been changing. Hotels get better, traffic gets worse, only the girls stay the same.
My time is limited this time, so after a customer dinner, I went to Maggie's last night. Also wanted to check the advice I had given Steve Naive about the earliest time to pick someone from there. So I got there just before 11 PM and I think I was right. There were a fair share of girls there, although, as usual, it only became busy around 00:30
I was disappointed though by the lack of quality. Perhaps because this was Monday, although I have been there before on Mondays when the quality was good. Now most of the Mongolians were 4-5 in my book, and I only take out 8 or 9 (tastes fortunately differ of course).
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
More Mongolians had arrived by 00:30 but still no one I truly liked. So I declined repatedly when I was sollicited. There was one girl with shorter false blonde hair that was striking. I learnt from the bargirls she was very popular and it showed in her attitude, so I didn't pay too much attention either. I had been hoping to meet one of my favourites, but they may not be in Beijing at all.
Anyway, after a while Anna slid into the seat next to me. She was obviously tipsy, drinking Gin & Tonic, but she was good looking enough to talk to. I was not showing too much interest, and she was grabbing my leg and moving and you know. Suddenly I had this very funny experience with her. Her friend came up to her with another guy in tow, whispered something to Anna, she turns around and lost all interest in me in a split second and started chatting him up. That was so funny. Particularly after 15 minutes or so, she did exactly the same thing to him, turned back to me and put her hands to work again.
Asked about her price, which she said was 1000 RMB, but over the next hour it decreased to 800, 700, 600, without me negotiating at all. I hesitated as she was pretty drunk by then, but as she hit me with 500 I thought, what the heck and went for it anyway. Took her back to the Hilton, no sweat to get in as usual, I didn't even spot a guard at that time (it was just after 2 AM). Hit the shower before her and when I came back into the room she was sleeping on my bed. Hmm, what to do? Switched on the telly and watched HBO for a while. She woke up after 30 minutes or so, but was not in a state for fun anylonger, so I sent her on her way with only taxi money (she was ok with that after having checked herself if we had had sex or not and obviously found out negatively).
So I went to sleep as well.
By the way, even if you don't take out anyone, Maggie's is a good and fun bar. The drinks are not too expensive, the music is very much to my taste, the bartenders are friendly and although I always run a tap for which I have to give them my visa in advance they have never cheated me.
Tonight I will try Hollywood as I have never been there. I don't expect to take out anyone though as when I want Russians, I go to Russia. Just want to see it once what it is like.
I've been in Beijing for the past week and I tried two nights at Hollywood without any luck. The place is a bit creepy; dark and smokey, with lots empty tables that make you question whether its a bar or a restaurant. Drinks were expensive. There were small groups of 3-6 Russian girls huddled together talking and chain smoking, with a few Mongolian girls sprinkled in. No one was really that friendly, and there wasn't a single stunner in the whole bunch. I'd say that they were mostly 5s and 6s, but the only ones with any rack at all were older or more manly than me!
Both nights I tried to stick if out and wait for "fresh meat" to arrive, but gave up about 90 minutes and walked over to Maggies.
This is my last night in Beijing this month, if anyone's in town and wants to meet up, send me a PM. I doubt you'll talk me into heading back to Hollywood though. I'd love to compare notes and prepare for my next trip. ;-)
I'll post a report of my antics in the next few days.
-G
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Tonight I will try Hollywood as I have never been there. I don't expect to take out anyone though as when I want Russians, I go to Russia. Just want to see it once what it is like.
Papi Putito
05-15-07, 20:10
The talk of Erka below reminds of a funny story.
A couple of years ago, after a wonderful couple of hours with Erka, she allowed me to snap a photo of her, waist-up in the nude on my cell phone. I completely forgot about it and I rarely use my cell phone as a camera or look in the archives. I have since gotten a new cell phone but last month, my 14 year old son lost his phone so I rumaged arouond and found my old phone for him to use. Low and behold he finds the picture in about 5 minutes and wonders what the heck? For some reason the date on the photo was wrong and read the year 2000, well before I had the phone, so I just shrugged and replied that it must have been a refurbished model that someone had used previously.
When he's 18 I just might have to take him to Maggies and tell him the real story! I don't want to expose him to the hobby just yet.
Hi folks,
I'm in Beijing and want to have some fun of course.
I tried yesterday to go to Chun xiu Lu Sauna but albeit I found the street, actually I didnt find the sauna itself.
I passed by the Red House Hotel but afterwards there was nothing similar to a Sauna.
Will you please give m e the exact address or further informations h ow t o reach it?
Any other useful sauna address will be warmly appreciated as well.
Many thanks to everybody .
Expatriate Guy
05-16-07, 04:35
Will be making my first visit to Beijing next week and would appreciate contact details of some massage parlours or outcall girls in Beijing. Anything similar to ****** website for Hong Kong?
Thanks and hope to return the favour
Will be making my first visit to Beijing next week and would appreciate contact details of some massage parlours or outcall girls in Beijing. Anything similar to ****** website for Hong Kong?
Thanks and hope to return the favourExpat,
I expect to be in Beijing for a few nights from the 24th through the 26th. Perhaps we can meet up and compare notes. Saturday night would be best for me.
I haven't booked my hotel yet but will stay probably depending on availability at the Beijing International Hotel, the Kerry Centre Shangri-La or the Traders hotel.
From my experience in Beijing, in terms of Sauna's etc. It makes one appreciate Zhuhai and Shenzhen.
If any other readers have some suggestions, I would appreciate them as well, particularly for a high end sauna with a real good massage and then the choice of extras as an option.
If you can send me a private message, if you are not a member it's not that expensive to join so that you can include in your private message to me an email where I can reach you without having to go through the forum.
Ontario Boy
05-16-07, 16:42
[QUOTE=Fredo24]
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
I found Fredo's comments to be interesting - the bar girls are quite nice and great to talk to. Do they get any commission on the 100 RMB drinks or only tips ?
SidTheSexist
05-17-07, 04:21
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
I found Fredo's comments to be interesting - the bar girls are quite nice and great to talk to. Do they get any commission on the 100 RMB drinks or only tips ?First of all, I dont know which bars you frequent to come up with the belief that 30rmb for a Tsingtao is cheap in Beijing. (unless you meant in the 3-4 mongering joints?)
Personally, I dont see the point in talking to the chinese girls in Maggies. Why visit Maggies to spend money on girls who will not leave with you?? I'd rather go to one of the hundreds of other joints in town where you do not have to pay extortionate rates to talk to a bird. They might be really nice girls, but if you want to give to the poor, no need to go to Maggies to do so. Most of them know me now too! So they wont even talk to me anyway :D
Sid
Dutchboy7908
05-17-07, 06:19
Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy!
Maztermac:
Great report and thank you for sharing. I do visit the Wangjing MP from time to time too. I also find a lot of the girls there to be very GFE. But I haven't yet got one that would do FS, even when I do an outcall. That's including a girl that I'm getting very intimate with.
Can you please share the numbers of the two girls that did it for you?
Thanks!
Sniffer
Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.
66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?
MazterMac
Steve Naive
05-17-07, 11:59
Next month I will stay at The Great Wall Sheraton - Beijing. Is there any night club inside the hotel building, where I can pick up girls to bring to my room? What are the girls rates?
Many thanks in advance.
Hi Atlante18,
All the information you want can be found in this forum without having to read too far back. Check out Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing a few pages back (or try the search feature). Read my report on the 3rd Ring Road sidewalk girls (a page or two back) that are near SGW for prices they charge. Find out about the favorite bars, and alternative places that offers services, like massage and sauna places.
You did not ask, but SGW is reasonably girl-friendly. I've never had a problem there.
And please, write a report about your experiences - where, when, who, what, and how much. This is a two-way forum.
Thanks, and welcome.
Steve Naive
As of the bargirls at St. Margarets and Bar One, they earn like a 5% commission per drink but they need to complete a quota. If they don't complete it, they get their salaries deducted. Actually coming to think about it, its quite tough for these girls to have to chump up $1500 per month for the bar only for her drinks and only take away at the most $200. Actually the 50rmb per day is quite high, of the girls I know, they only get rmb30 a day. That's why I always leave a small tip and they give me all the tips about the girls.
I suppose this is a funny question, but I am looking for a quality provider that is top of the line. Money is not a question, if the girl is worth it.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance for the suggestions.
SidTheSexist
05-17-07, 20:58
Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy!Hmmmmmm, Dutchboy, this LangFang spot sounds interesting as I have business down there too. If you have PM feature, I should maybe contact for more details.
AllDay,
I have a suggestion,
How about you use all this money you have to pay the forum $20 and take full advantage of the information on offer. Fuck sake!!!!
Sid
You are BRILLIANT! But, what happens if I have already done that, yet still hope that someone is nice enough to provide a little directed information my way. I guess, in such case, that nice person wouldn't be you.
Member #3421
05-17-07, 23:26
I suppose this is a funny question, but I am looking for a quality provider that is top of the line. Money is not a question, if the girl is worth it.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance for the suggestions.I realize this guy is a newbie (as am I, to Beijing anyway), but I think this is an interesting question. Most of the topics on this board are about a different market segment. I think Passions (still in business, I forget?) girls are pricey, I assume quality is pretty high. Sammy's guide has some mention, I think -- do a search AllDay. I'll go back when I get a moment.
If I were in Europe or the US, this would be easy. My googling of China has been unsuccessful. I also seem to remember some of the senior members saying something along the lines of "the really hot ones don't need to be WG with foreigners, they can do very well with some extremely wealthy Chinese."
But correct me if I'm wrong, further the discussion, etc.
NBG
Fast Eddie 48
05-18-07, 02:33
I suppose this is a funny question, but I am looking for a quality provider that is top of the line. Money is not a question, if the girl is worth it.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance for the suggestions.To all day,
Go to paradise ktv basement of landmark hotel , I was there 2 night ago many top quality model most want 1000rmb and up for LT and the ktv room cost 2000 rmb and up they even have some russian there.
Fast eddie 48
SidTheSexist
05-18-07, 06:14
You are BRILLIANT! But, what happens if I have already done that, yet still hope that someone is nice enough to provide a little directed information my way. I guess, in such case, that nice person wouldn't be you.Hmm, Suppose I do tend to over react sometimes. Especially if you note the time I posted and understand I was absolutely wankered.
I do believe there is a certain limit however. Passions for example being almost as high as you can possibly pay. Going above that would involve a money sucking Girlfriend which, unfortunately, would probably be the only thing she was good at sucking. I havent came across direct P4P much more than the 2500rmb LT you hear about for Russian girls. But then, their service is often nowhere near as good as it should be. For quality providers, I would actually recommend dropping your standards. You will actually SAVE money, and have twice the experience. You didnt specify the quality of looks after all.
Sid
Andreas Wang
05-18-07, 07:56
How did the story go on? Last thing I remembered she wanted to show up in Shanghai. Any news to tell.
Not to be pushy, but I really liked that story in the making. :D
[QUOTE=Fredo24]
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
I found Fredo's comments to be interesting - the bar girls are quite nice and great to talk to. Do they get any commission on the 100 RMB drinks or only tips ?
She told me she didn't get any commissions, except on Saturday when she would get 15%.
First of all, I dont know which bars you frequent to come up with the belief that 30rmb for a Tsingtao is cheap in Beijing. (unless you meant in the 3-4 mongering joints?)
Personally, I dont see the point in talking to the chinese girls in Maggies. Why visit Maggies to spend money on girls who will not leave with you?? I'd rather go to one of the hundreds of other joints in town where you do not have to pay extortionate rates to talk to a bird. They might be really nice girls, but if you want to give to the poor, no need to go to Maggies to do so. Most of them know me now too! So they wont even talk to me anyway :D
Sid
I should have qualified that 30 RMB is indeed cheap only for the mongering bars or hotel bars. Elsewhere you can drink cheaper.
I don't understand why you seem aggravated that I like to talk to the Chinese girls at Maggie's. I like to understand their world. They are also quite knowledgeable about some of the Mongolians, who is nice and who is not. For me it is part of the fun.
Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy!Langfang / Xianghe exit is about 35kms from BJ 3rd ring. I don't remember seeing BBS by going straight after the exit: it's a wide new road with nothing on the side except companies and a small countryside village at the end (T crossroad). Is it in this area? On my side, I would say you have to turn right at the exit and then go straight. You have BBS on this wide road, after the university city gate.
Bad Boy Billy
05-19-07, 00:47
To all day,
Go to paradise ktv basement of landmark hotel , I was there 2 night ago many top quality model most want 1000rmb and up for LT and the ktv room cost 2000 rmb and up they even have some russian there.
Fast eddie 48
Eddis yes I have seen the 'stunners' in basement of Landmark - literally dozens of them.
Can you arrange take-out without utilizing the KTV first?
Was getting bored, so went to Hollywood to pick up some chick. Ended up leaving with this russian girl name elaine/elena? Tall, skinny and really small boob. Bad skin, but she looked better at hollywood when its dark. She doesn't speak any english at all and it was difficult to communicate. Standard price, no kissing, everything is safe.
I wandered in there once on my own. Since I can't speak a word of Mandarin, I had a hard time figuring out exactly what the options were. After a couple of false starts trying to get information out of the staff, I found out that you could take out the girls but that is cost 3000 RMB to do so. Maybe it's less if you speak the language. I never did figure out the protocol for choosing a girl.
The KTV seemed prohibitively expensive to do on my own, and frankly didn't seem like it would be all that fun to be "singing and drinking" with half a dozen girls that couldn't really speak English.
Maybe it would be worth trying the KTV experience with couple of ISG buddies...
G
Eddis yes I have seen the 'stunners' in basement of Landmark - literally dozens of them.
Can you arrange take-out without utilizing the KTV first?
Hi,
May I know if the Holiday Inn Central Plaza is girl friendly?
Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy!Hello Dutchboy,
Is this the area near the Oriental University town ? I mean...the wide road on the right just as one exits the toll gate.
JackAndSally
05-19-07, 23:20
Thank you to anyone for tips here. I'm going to land in BJ in 10 days. Its my first time coming to China, I'm a caucasion english speaking guy. One goal for my holiday in PRC is to fullfill my lifelong fantasy of having 2 women at once, and having them be completely interactive with each other. Anything goes. Its something I want to experience at least once in my lifetime!
So my question is where would I go to fullfill such a quest. I'm assuming that in the MP/BBS its a 1 on 1 experience. I guess I'm hoping that someone experienced in BJ can point me in the right direction.
JS
Hi there,
Im a newbie in Beijing hanging out until May 28th. Is there anyone in Beijing now that wouldn't mind I tag along to hang out? Im from the states in my early thirties, pretty easy going.
From what i read in the forum, it seems Pigs, Hollywood and Maggies are places to go. Can anyone recommend any good sauna or massage places as well?
Thanks in advance,
Pete
I would also be interested in forming a group for the Landmark KTV. PM me and we'll talk about it.
Hi,
May I know if the Holiday Inn Central Plaza is girl friendly?They all are. According to local rumors, 50% of the guests at the Holiday Inn Lido are there with local talent.
Gary,
I would be interested in going with a group to 'inspect' and report on the situation. Any other takers? PM me, Gary, and we'll work on setting up a time.
I have been to Beijing many times over the years. It is amazing how the city has been changing. Hotels get better, traffic gets worse, only the girls stay the same. .
Not really. Quality of St. Margaret BAR girls definitely went down after Tony, the previous manager, left, and his successor made some not so brilliant staffing changes. Quality of Mongolian workers still same, YMMV.
Anyway, after a while Anna slid into the seat next to me. She was obviously tipsy, drinking Gin & Tonic, but she was good looking enough to talk to. I was not showing too much interest, and she was grabbing my leg and moving and you know. Suddenly I had this very funny experience with her. Her friend came up to her with another guy in tow, whispered something to Anna, she turns around and lost all interest in me in a split second and started chatting him up. That was so funny. Particularly after 15 minutes or so, she did exactly the same thing to him, turned back to me and put her hands to work again. Ah, what you experienced was the attempt to set up a 3some. The other guy (it may have been me) had picked the friend and instructed her to pick another girl she's comfortable to get naked with. Obviously in your case, that transaction wasn't closed, and attention reversed back to you.
Hit the shower before her and when I came back into the room she was sleeping on my bed. Hmm, what to do? Switched on the telly and watched HBO for a while. She woke up after 30 minutes or so, but was not in a state for fun anylonger, so I sent her on her way with only taxi money.That's the risk of doing business a bit too late. Some of the Mongolians have been in the sauce quite heavily at that point. This can either get you a low priced LT .... or nothing at all.
Fast Eddie 48
05-20-07, 10:26
Eddis yes I have seen the 'stunners' in basement of Landmark - literally dozens of them.
Can you arrange take-out without utilizing the KTV first?To bad boy silly
If you slip a bill to the host and let them know you just want a take out and have done this without getting a room and I don't even drink but the girl want 2000 rmb for all night and the hot one will not go for any less than 1500 rmb even if you try to bargin, you can also try the lobby or outside the hotel some freelancer but quality is only 5-6 I even saw a few russian .
Fast eddie 48
Bad Boy Billy
05-21-07, 00:40
To bad boy silly
If you slip a bill to the host and let them know you just want a take out and have done this without getting a room and I don't even drink but the girl want 2000 rmb for all night and the hot one will not go for any less than 1500 rmb even if you try to bargin, you can also try the lobby or outside the hotel some freelancer but quality is only 5-6 I even saw a few russian .
Fast eddie 48
Thanks for the info mate.
I actually sat at a table at the top of the excalator with a friend of mine about 12 months ago - we were there about from 7pm on for 2 hours waiting for 2 girls to show up to go to dinner.
I just could not believe the continual stream of stunners going down the escalator - we went down the following night and said we just wanted to drink at the bar but could get virtually no service at all.
I will try again next visit - thanks again.
SidTheSexist
05-21-07, 05:42
I don't understand why you seem aggravated that I like to talk to the Chinese girls at Maggie's. I like to understand their world.Im not aggravated at all. I was only stating that I find no point in going to Maggies to talk to a "normal" girl. If you think about it, it does seem a bit odd. I have been through it already. They respond to adverts for waitress work in a expat/international club. The adverts play on their desire to practice English and the interview basically involves some guy deciding whether she is good enough looking. They then get the job and go on to shit themselves on the first night when they discover what they have signed up for. Very nice girls, but they are by no means WGs.
Just trying to help the newbies.
Sid
Dutchboy7908
05-21-07, 09:12
Hello Dutchboy,
Is this the area near the Oriental University town ? I mean...the wide road on the right just as one exits the toll gate.Yes its just after the toll. Anyway there are two exits both called langfang if I'm not mistaken. It should be the second one. It is very obvious. Really a street full!
Dutchboy7908
05-21-07, 09:15
Hello All,
Just went for my lunchbreak to the Wangjing MP. It's difficult to find but the reward is big. I had girl No. 9 a slim petite who licked me while see was giving me a HJ. And a nice massage as well! Really worth trying!
Grtz,
Dutchboy
Albert Punter
05-21-07, 12:21
Some time ago it was debated the obvious here: it is hghly recommendable to have chinese address written down for taxi drivers in order to get to desired destination.
Therefore, I remembered that some time ago I had posted a few business cards.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=537505&postcount=4853
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=541067&postcount=4905
Some I had taken, some I had stolen from someone else's report.
I don't know the number in BJ, but in Shanghai you can send a text message to 85887 and give the name of the hotel, restaurant or bar and you will receive a return message with the address and phone number in English.
Then if you "reply" the letter "C" you will receive the same info in Chinese which you can then show the taxi driver.
Work well.
ES
Well, i'll tell you that I haven't been to BJ in about 2 years since I moved away. I had lived there for about 5 years.
Went to a few regular haunts-
-a great KTV place down south of Guomao by about 3 km
-The Den
-Maggies
--the usual
-- Also, I attempted to chat up a few locals in ICQ to get a freebie or two.
1. KTV- as usual, it was a great place. Girls will easily get naked for you, go out with you for 600 rmb, good looking girls, it's just out of the way so it's a little less expensive than the norm in Chaoyang.
2. The Den- Other than the surrounding buildings, not much has changed. A boatload of Russians one night, a few very nice looking too.
3. Maggies- Now, for those of you that think the quality is down, alL I can say is I think you're wrong. After not having been there for a couple of years, I was amazed at how good looking the girls were. It was a pleasant surprise as I was expecting the same old gals. Although, there were still a few I banged a couple of years ago, so not all has changed.
4. ICQ, I chatted up a girl on ICQ that lived near Chaoyang and 4th Ring. We chatted for about 1 hour and I told her to come on over and I'd teach her some things. She's 32, fairly good looking, and very nice. She says she can't, cuz she's on her period, I told her OK, that I only expected a blow job then.
next day, she shows up, gets to the BJ and takes it like a champ.
Next day, she does it again, but during the BJ, asks if I want to try anal sex. Now, I wasn't sure if she was talking about me or her. Luckily she meant that I'd bang her. So, I did. she was great.
She knew I didn't live there any more and she was coming to a hotel for a evening of fucking a stranger. hhmm, this place is great, what an easy place to get laid......
5. Next night, coming home alone- and a little drunk, I was accosted by one of those little tout gals- You know the ones- "lady bar", "massage",
"young beautiful chinese girl" ringing in your ears as you try to ignore her. well, she was actually OK looking. A little older, about 30, but cute looking. I told her I didn't want a young girl, I wanted her. She said no, she's not a xiaojie and that she would call one for me. Nope, want YOU, if not you, then don't bother. Then, I walked to my hotel as she walked behind me. She repeated that she was not a hooker (year right) but, since i looked nice, she'd go with me. 400 rmb. Nope, too much.
At this point, i was just trying to get my drunk ass to my room and go to sleep. She said, 300rmb, nope, gotta go.......followed me to my elevator and said 200rmb....OK, hell...that's almost free.......
She came up, bbbj, fuck, bbbjtc-----said she loves me..gave her 200, CYA later.
What a great city.
Good luck brothers
Just Me
Here is my first report at Dadi Garden Hotel in Haidian District near Beijing DaXue:
They appear to be girl friendly. The lobbyists and security dont seem to care whenever girls come along with me late at night. Im sure they must know whats going on. You can get rooms at this hotel at bargain prices at around 280 yuan/night or something. But dont expect a five star hotel.
They apparently have a massage clinic on the first floor that has "terbie de" service. I dont know the name of it, because I dont read a lick of chinese. Every night the mamasan calls my room asking if I want a massage. Originally I thought it was a legit place with regular massages and the girl that came to my room was very attractive. But after massaging for about 30 minutes, she starts massaging my special area and asks if I want other services. She wasn't cheap though, HJ 400, BJ 600, and FS is 1000. Her name was Li Feng and she has a good attitude but unfortunatley pushes a lot for FS in an alluring way. She has pretty face and very nice slim body, unfortunately I haven't learned how to coerce girls into letting me take their pics, so I can show you guys to see. Unfortunately she had small boobs and which Im a boob lover, but the rest of her was hot enough to get me going.
If anyone knows of any hot girls with biguns and a good body in Beijing please let know. Also the mamasan herself charges 168 an hour, so you're gonna have to learn how to negotiate with the girl to bring the price down.
Disaster53
05-22-07, 21:19
I just spend a week in beijing and I would really reccomend to all of you this agency, the adress is: www.stayinbeijing.com.
You will interact with a girl named cin that speak perfect english and she is willing to help you with all you need.
The apartment that I booked was 5 min (with taxi, or 15 walking)from tiennamen square and the forbidden city, and if you stay for a week or more there is also a free tour of the great wall of china.
I payed 235 for a one bedroom apartment cleaned everyday and I had not problem with guest!
I needed to go to the train station to buy a ticket for shanghai and cin did it for me without asking any extra money and she gave me all the info I needed. She told me that she manage about 25 different apartment all close to the touristic staff, if you want a place to bring your chinise conquest without worrying about anything check the site out, I was very happy about the all thing and I hope you will be too.
As for the mongering I was a bit disappointed with what was on offers, the girls were really good looking and willing to please me in any way I wanted but what I really wanted was chinise pussy and what I got was a lot of philippinas and russians.
Hi folks,
I'm in Beijing and want to have some fun of course.
I tried yesterday to go to Chun xiu Lu Sauna but albeit I found the street, actually I didnt find the sauna itself.
I passed by the Red House Hotel but afterwards there was nothing similar to a Sauna.
Will you please give m e the exact address or further informations h ow t o reach it?
Any other useful sauna address will be warmly appreciated as well.
Many thanks to everybody .If you are standing on the street looking at the Red House, the sauana is down the street to the left. The sign is all Chinese. There are glass doors on the entrance, and you see a fairly large lobby with a desk to the left side. This is the place. Someone will be standing in the lobby and take you to the desk for you to tell them what you want.
Hello Folks,
I just got to Beijing on business and am staying at the Ritz. Anyone want to hang out and have a drink or so, or may be get me initiated to the pleasures this wonderful city offers?
Shoot me a PM, I usually get done around 5:30p and have really not much to do after that.
Thanks
Okzgen
Bad Boy Billy
05-23-07, 23:20
I just spend a week in beijing and I would really reccomend to all of you this agency, the adress is: www.stayinbeijing.com.
You will interact with a girl named cin that speak perfect english and she is willing to help you with all you need.
The apartment that I booked was 5 min (with taxi, or 15 walking)from tiennamen square and the forbidden city, and if you stay for a week or more there is also a free tour of the great wall of china.
I payed 235 for a one bedroom apartment cleaned everyday and I had not problem with guest!
I needed to go to the train station to buy a ticket for shanghai and cin did it for me without asking any extra money and she gave me all the info I needed. She told me that she manage about 25 different apartment all close to the touristic staff, if you want a place to bring your chinise conquest without worrying about anything check the site out, I was very happy about the all thing and I hope you will be too.
As for the mongering I was a bit disappointed with what was on offers, the girls were really good looking and willing to please me in any way I wanted but what I really wanted was chinise pussy and what I got was a lot of philippinas and russians.
Disaster - you paid 235 what? RMB? US$? Euro?
You were disappointed in the girls on offer where?
Filipino girls in Beijing - have I missed something - I know there is a shitload in Shanghai but Beijing?
Where did you get the Russians my friend?
If you wanted Chinese girls did you not RTFF?
Chinese girls in droves at Lido, Hard Rock, outside Lfthansa Centre / Sheraton areaor just walk any street in Beijing and make eye contact with every cutie - tell us more please.
This place is easier to find at night. The first time I went there I walked past it 3 times and finally ended up going down the alley next door to the building to a different (low end) massage place. I punted and went to the Pizza Hut across the street for dinner; when I came out I figured I'd take one last look around. It was starting to get dark then and they had turned on their neon lights so it was easy to spot. I went in, confirmed it was the place I was looking for, and got a business card from them so I could show it to a taxi driver to get back there again.
Good luck trying to navigate without speaking Mandarin. I went very late at night for my visit there, and I ended up buying a set of ridiculous, ill fitting pajamas that I wore to walk up the stairs then later discarded when I came back down to get showered and changed back into my street clothes. Since I was the only person in the Sauna (so I couldn't copy what others were doing) and couldn't speak the language, I didn't know the protocol. I would have saved a few bucks and been much more comfortable showering, getting redressed in my own clothes, then going upstairs. Is this acceptable? Without being able to communicate I just ended up going with the flow.
I hesitant to go back until I can get some local help ;-)
G
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