Jakarta

[Expat American]

I have to agree with EA about Emporium. My first trip I balked at the prices there compared to Classic, but it really is like another level of quality and experience. Their MO is you arrive and you take the elevator to go upstairs and there's a big room with girls on one side and customers on the other side. There's an early shift that starts around 2 pm and then the main shift that starts around 6 pm more or less. There's two main couch areas with the 1. 2 M girls on the right side and the 1. 4 M on the left. Honestly I couldn't tell a major difference between the two, but I think the 1. 4 M were still marginally better. Anyways once you pick your girl, your 90 timer starts. Your options are you can drink with her there in the main room but it's part of your time. You can go downstairs to the spa and she will join you in the giant jacuzzi pool for about 30 minutes and give you a lap dance or massage you. Or you can go straight to the room for the full 90 minutes. There is also an option for a nicer room for a little extra, I forgot how much but it was less than 500.000 and it was worth it to me as the room seemed much larger and nicer. I'd also recommend getting the Papasan's whatsapp, they will post the list of girls who will be working that day to their daily stories if you are looking for a particular girl. And you can also message the papasan to reserve a girl for you before you arrive, and they will send photos of the girls if you ask politely. Also note that the jacuzzi is sometimes closed because it can be booked for a private party. That's on my bucket list but you basically pay for something like 4 bottles and it includes 3 or 4 girls and you get the whole spa area for yourself or your group for maybe 2 hours and also time in the room. I remember the cost being about just under 1,000 USD but it seemed reasonable if you're splitting it between a few people. Also just FYI, BBFS seemed harder to come by here than a place like Classic. Maybe that was just my limited experience but the girls here are either more strict or not as desperate for the extra money.

Quick question for more experienced Emporium mongers: what would be your standard tip here for BBFS? One girl was quoting me a seemingly extraordinary amount after giving her what I thought was already a very generous tip (she initially said the tip value was up to me).I wasnt aware your time starts at the drinks. I consider that the interview stage and off the clock. Time should start at the pool when she comes out in her bikini. Anyway the second girl I had at Emporium was super relaxed. At each step it was I who said lets go to the pool and I said lets go to the room and in the end I had to say okay we can leave the room now. The girl was completely unhurried and the house didn't bother us either. It was a slow night and I think they didn't care. I think Emporium is well worth the Price difference with Classic. This last trip Classic Spa collection was very mediocre at 5 pm. I found my regular so it was fine for me but otherwise there was maybe one or two other girls I could have picked. While at Emporium there were probably 30 to 40 girls and I could have easily done over 25 of them.

[D Cups]

I wasnt aware your time starts at the drinks. I consider that the interview stage and off the clock. Time should start at the pool when she comes out in her bikini. Anyway the second girl I had at Emporium was super relaxed. At each step it was I who said lets go to the pool and I said lets go to the room and in the end I had to say okay we can leave the room now. The girl was completely unhurried and the house didn't bother us either. It was a slow night and I think they didn't care. I think Emporium is well worth the Price difference with Classic. This last trip Classic Spa collection was very mediocre at 5 pm. I found my regular so it was fine for me but otherwise there was maybe one or two other girls I could have picked. While at Emporium there were probably 30 to 40 girls and I could have easily done over 25 of them.Sent you a PM, buddy.

[Giovanni Volo]

Hello Everybody.

Today at Classic there were very nice dancers.

Someones know if they do sex or just dancing and drinking? Price?

I never see their mamasan, so I never know who to ask. I be back to Classic in the next days. I will try to ask ti someone's.

For sure they cannot dance at all, there are here because are sexy.

[Pk099]

Sure man, I will report back my Jakarta experience from Seeking. I have good success rate on Seeking in other cities, and hoping same.


Thank you for your response. The hotties that I saw; if the pics are genuine and speak decent English, 3 mil is fine if the chick spends the entire day or a night as long as you get a good seeking experience. I crave and love that kind of stuff. Do report if you happen to meet any SA chick, the damages and experience. I do not need the contacts or their IDs at all. The hotties that I matched on dating apps and connected in CJs were ok to come to my room in 1 mil for one hour but since this was my first trip was trying to learn and understand. So IMHO, the 5 Mil chicks will be ok with your 3 mil offer for full day or night. Have fun.

Have fun.

Regards.

[ParSeeker]

Hello Everybody.

Today at Classic there were very nice dancers.

Someones know if they do sex or just dancing and drinking? Price?

I never see their mamasan, so I never know who to ask. I be back to Classic in the next days. I will try to ask ti someone's.

For sure they cannot dance at all, there are here because are sexy.Be very careful around the dancers. They are like vultures surrounding prey and will see that you are a newbie, surround you, molest you, put your hands on their boobs and the next thing you know you are buying 5 shots for each dancer.

I don't know if they participate in sex but after that experience I did not want anything to do with them.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went there last night about 7 PM. Maybe 80 girls, most of them not fuckable. Found one and went to the room with her, after showing her on my phone what I wanted in the session and she agreeing to it. The session was OK and at the end she asked for a tip. Based on posts here, I gave her a 100 K note. She insisted on 200 K so I offered her 50 K more. She repeatedly refused the extra 50 K, insisting on 100 K, until she gave up and we left the room. I thought the 200 K tip was for BBFS, not just regular service. Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?

[Muzungufotsy]

Went there last night about 7 PM. Maybe 80 girls, most of them not fuckable. Found one and went to the room with her, after showing her on my phone what I wanted in the session and she agreeing to it. The session was OK and at the end she asked for a tip. Based on posts here, I gave her a 100 K note. She insisted on 200 K so I offered her 50 K more. She repeatedly refused the extra 50 K, insisting on 100 K, until she gave up and we left the room. I thought the 200 K tip was for BBFS, not just regular service. Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?Locals give 50 k as a tip. I give the same and I get BBFS as well. My money my rules.

I don't care what the girl says or if she complains. How can she force me to give more tip? It s not going to happen in this life.

Many simps give 200 or even more because they are weak and dumb so of course girls try to get more now.

Just be firm. Easy.

[Expat American]

Went there last night about 7 PM. Maybe 80 girls, most of them not fuckable. Found one and went to the room with her, after showing her on my phone what I wanted in the session and she agreeing to it. The session was OK and at the end she asked for a tip. Based on posts here, I gave her a 100 K note. She insisted on 200 K so I offered her 50 K more. She repeatedly refused the extra 50 K, insisting on 100 K, until she gave up and we left the room. I thought the 200 K tip was for BBFS, not just regular service. Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?Did you go to the same Classic I did? At 7 pm there should be way more than 80 girls. There are 15-20 girls per sofa and there are 8 to 10 sofas. Did you walk around? And each sofa has at least a few hotter girls. Or are you going to expect 100% 10's in a brothel where you fuck a 19 yo for $25? As for tip 100 K is reasonable if no special service. But is it that hard to be generous with another 6 bucks? Out of your 375 K to the house, she gets less than 100. She spread her legs and sucked your dick for 6 bucks. I'm not one of those who think we should pay US prices in third world countries. But at the same time I'm okay being generous with small sums to make a girl who made me happy feel good. Now if she had a bad attitude or something, then its a different story. That's just how I do it though and I have not had a bad experience at Classic yet.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Did you go to the same Classic I did? At 7 pm there should be way more than 80 girls. There are 15-20 girls per sofa and there are 8 to 10 sofas. Did you walk around? And each sofa has at least a few hotter girls. Or are you going to expect 100% 10's in a brothel where you fuck a 19 yo for $25? As for tip 100 K is reasonable if no special service. But is it that hard to be generous with another 6 bucks? Out of your 375 K to the house, she gets less than 100. She spread her legs and sucked your dick for 6 bucks. I'm not one of those who think we should pay US prices in third world countries. But at the same time I'm okay being generous with small sums to make a girl who made me happy feel good. Now if she had a bad attitude or something, then its a different story. That's just how I do it though and I have not had a bad experience at Classic yet.It was a guess. There could have been more, I wasn't counting, but some couches had only 10 or less girls.

I wasn't expecting 10's but maybe more than just a few 7'.

I thought that they got 175 K of the 365 K. Why are they even there to get less than 100 K for an hour?

I certainly could afford the extra 50 K that she wanted but I didn't want to be the simp that ruins the market for other foreigners.

[NoGermaphobe]

It was a guess. There could have been more, I wasn't counting, but some couches had only 10 or less girls.

I wasn't expecting 10's but maybe more than just a few 7'.

I thought that they got 175 K of the 365 K. Why are they even there to get less than 100 K for an hour?

I certainly could afford the extra 50 K that she wanted but I didn't want to be the simp that ruins the market for other foreigners.It is my understanding there is at least a four way split of the fee you pay. But I don't know the exact breakdown.

Part goes directly to the lady.

Part goes to pay the debt her or her family borrowed.

Part goes to the house.

A small commission goes to the mamasan.

Anything you tip should be kept directly by the lady.

One lady told me she clears 20 million a month. (For comparison. An office worker I met on Bumble told me her monthly salary was 7 million and she went to university and had a degree.) I will let someone else do the math on how many guys a month that may be based on any assumed breakdown of the fee or tips.

Also consider that the lady can be "booked" to a table for the hour. This costs 1 voucher and is the same as the room price for sex, but she will just sit and drink with the customer for that hour or two before going to the room to fuck. So that is 3 vouchers she gets for 2 hours of drinking downstairs with the customer and 1 hour of fucking in the room. She gets paid the same either way for 1 voucher. Whether she is sitting and drinking or in the room fucking. This is not my vibe. But many of our Asian friends love to sit and drink with their buddies while they fondle a beautiful lady. This is also why many of the ladies gain weight during the course of their career as they drink their calories from sitting with the customer on a booked table/voucher.

[NoGermaphobe]

Here are a few reports from locals on what they actually tip.

If you tip 100 you are tipping like a local for standard service with no extras. 50 seems like the low end of the range while 150 seems to be the upper end of the range.

Noticed the covered BJ in one of the reports could be why the 50K tip.

See attachments below.

DC means Damage / Cost I believe and where amount they paid is located. Red is obviously 100 K and blue is 50 K.

[Zippos]

There is a price for everything and that's being said, they may look stunning and energetic on stage, tends to be quite the opposite on bed. If you must insist, trick is to get one of the Mama to negotiate for you for a finders fee for the mama aka tips.

Have fun and hope you enjoy your dancer.


Hello Everybody.

Today at Classic there were very nice dancers.

Someones know if they do sex or just dancing and drinking? Price?

I never see their mamasan, so I never know who to ask. I be back to Classic in the next days. I will try to ask ti someone's.

For sure they cannot dance at all, there are here because are sexy.

[Zippos]

You are reading too much into the forum post about tips. There is no set on stone rules to not to ruin the market. If you are happy with the service give 100 or 150 or even 200. You won't be ruining anything. That will actually motivate the girls to provide better service. Now, if service was horrible and she depends tips, well I don't know about other but she won't be getting a dime from me and I will make sure to tell that to her on her face and to mama because that mama will be back to my table before I finish my beer.

When it comes to making a deal for BBFS, that I don't know because I don't do that in a *****house like classic. That's just me.


It was a guess. There could have been more, I wasn't counting, but some couches had only 10 or less girls.

I wasn't expecting 10's but maybe more than just a few 7'.

I thought that they got 175 K of the 365 K. Why are they even there to get less than 100 K for an hour?

I certainly could afford the extra 50 K that she wanted but I didn't want to be the simp that ruins the market for other foreigners.

[Banana Boi]

Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?Tip is 100 k for good service. Girl was being greedy. I never go for girls begging for more than 100 k and imo they better appreciate that 100 k I gave her cause that doubles up on the amount she just made in that session. Now if you want to give more then that's ok too. But in your case you didn't really want to so her begging worked.


Did you go to the same Classic I did? At 7 pm there should be way more than 80 girls.I found the numbers to be fairly inconsistent at Classic last month. On a couple of nights there really were only around 80 girls at 7 pm and good nights had WAY more. Luckily most nights there were way more.


I wasn't expecting 10's but maybe more than just a few 7'..

I found this to be the same as quantity. There were a few very pretty girls I saw on night 1 of my trip and didn't see again until up to 10 days later even though her mamasan was working. I asked where they were the past 5+ days and they said working so unless someone booked them for hours at a time every time I was there she was lying. You barely see the best girls on the floor. Regulars like me have already told mamasan I want "Angela" so even if you see "Angela" momentarily on the main floor you won't get her over me. Stand by the VIP doors if you want to try to catch a girl. Doesn't always work cause sometimes they're just popping up for a pee break or something.

Yes, the talent level now has dipped over the years and there are nights when finding a '7' can even be difficult but there are also those nights when you are blown away by the talent especially given the price level. How many nights have you gone to Classic so far, JB? Will be interested to hearing what your thoughts are going at least 4 or 5 nights, not in a row, You can never judge any big bar on 1 night, not even a top gogo bar in Pattaya.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Tip is 100 k for good service. Girl was being greedy. I never go for girls begging for more than 100 k and imo they better appreciate that 100 k I gave her cause that doubles up on the amount she just made in that session. Now if you want to give more then that's ok too. But in your case you didn't really want to so her begging worked.

I found the numbers to be fairly inconsistent at Classic last month. On a couple of nights there really were only around 80 girls at 7 pm and good nights had WAY more. Luckily most nights there were way more.

I found this to be the same as quantity. There were a few very pretty girls I saw on night 1 of my trip and didn't see again until up to 10 days later even though her mamasan was working. I asked where they were the past 5+ days and they said working so unless someone booked them for hours at a time every time I was there she was lying. You barely see the best girls on the floor. Regulars like me have already told mamasan I want "Angela" so even if you see "Angela" momentarily on the main floor you won't get her over me. Stand by the VIP doors if you want to try to catch a girl. Doesn't always work cause sometimes they're just popping up for a pee break or something.

Yes, the talent level now has dipped over the years and there are nights when finding a '7' can even be difficult but there are also those nights when you are blown away by the talent especially given the price level. How many nights have you gone to Classic so far, JB? Will be interested to hearing what your thoughts are going at least 4 or 5 nights, not in a row, You can never judge any big bar on 1 night, not even a top gogo bar in Pattaya.She never took the extra 50 K. She just left with the 100 K. That's why I asked the question. I was wondering if she was so insulted that I wouldn't give her a 200 K tip because that is the normal tip she just walked out. However, you would think she would have taken the extra 50 K even if she was pissed off.

Only went there once. Arrived Tuesday midnight, went on Wednesday, wasn't up for a visit Thursday. Will check again tonight.

[SuperLove]

Looking forward to reading your reports from your trip especially with the Empo girl at your pad. How was the overall experience, and who was it.

Simply amazing, great move at the rodeo. Cheers.


Hye buddy, had a BBFS with a super hot girl in emporium & the tip I paid was 300 k only no cigarette or no hidden charges that too by the main bill so in short the answer to your question is yes emporium girls do BBFS & if you can negotiate better it will be as little as 200 k minimum & maximum 1 m. In my case girl was much impressed with my move that she happily accepted 300 k & she is now sleeping with me in my apartment for right now only for 1 m for a night. Go & try it's worth it. The full FR on my trip since 4 night journey will be posted by me soon. Maybe it help you or others.

Tarima kashis.

[Egy Monger New]

I personally have always tipped 100 k or 150 k and that includes BBFS + CIP. Nobody has ever complained.

[Vendelo]

Tip is 100 k for good service. Girl was being greedy. I never go for girls begging for more than 100 k and imo they better appreciate that 100 k I gave her cause that doubles up on the amount she just made in that session. Now if you want to give more then that's ok too. But in your case you didn't really want to so her begging worked.I keep checking the conversion rate. Just to confirm, a 100,000 IDR tip equals about US $6.00. Is that correct?

[Incrociatore]

Locals give 50 k as a tip. I give the same and I get BBFS as well. My money my rules.

I don't care what the girl says or if she complains. How can she force me to give more tip? It s not going to happen in this life.

Many simps give 200 or even more because they are weak and dumb so of course girls try to get more now.

Just be firm. Easy.I am confused about the prices. You guys talk about tips, but is that in addition? In addition to what?

I have never been in Asia, but I am considering Jakarta. How much does a girl cost there? And where I can find girls? I don't like sex clubs, I don't like professionals. Does Tinder work there, or maybe other apps? Or I should use Facebook?

I have a smoking fetish, and I saw a lot of videos of Indonesian girls smoking. Is that quite common?

[Vendelo]

I am planning my first trip to Jakarta.

Is there a difference between Jakarta and CGK?

Or is it negligible like Narita and Haneda?

[NoGermaphobe]

All the international flights go to CGK which is located in Tangerang a little north west of Central Jakarta. HLP is mostly a domestic airport served by three Indonesian airlines and for the president and visiting dignitaries. You will fly in to CGK.


I am planning my first trip to Jakarta.

Is there a difference between Jakarta and CGK?

Or is it negligible like Narita and Haneda?

[Goferring]

I am confused about the prices. You guys talk about tips, but is that in addition? In addition to what?

I have never been in Asia, but I am considering Jakarta. How much does a girl cost there? And where I can find girls? I don't like sex clubs, I don't like professionals. Does Tinder work there, or maybe other apps? Or I should use Facebook?

I have a smoking fetish, and I saw a lot of videos of Indonesian girls smoking. Is that quite common?Tips are paid, typically direct to the girl, in addition to the establishments' fees. Normally paid to girls who are employees rather than freelancers and it's not a large amount: 100 to 200 k.

Jakarta has one of the largest ranges of prices anywhere in Asia. 300 k isn't hard to find nor is a girl asking 3 million in a 5 star hotel's bar. RTFF for what to pay where.

Girls are everywhere: malls, online, bars, massage houses, bordellos, the list is endless. The only thing that Jakarta does not have is bars with barfineable gogos. Girls in bars are typically freelancers making their own arrangements.

Many civilians in Jakarta and girls are generally very approachable is you have the smallest amount of Game.

Tinder works but scammers of lady boys abound.

Lots of Indo girls smoke (cigarettes).

Enjoy. G.

[DevSagar]

You did right Jshah. My first and only trip to Jakarta; I fucked 2 chicks in Emporium. 1st girl I tipped 200 K. She Went happy, took her number and agreed to meet me in my private room. Yeah, good tip works; she made me happy and vice versa. 2nd girl, I tipped 100 K but she made a sorry face; gave her another 50 K. Same took her number and she too agreed to meet me privately. All these exercises were done for my next trip to Jakarta. I do repeat my chicks if I like them. Classic, I didn't go as was mighty pleased with my experience here. I look forward to catch up on your adventures and another Punter's SA reports of this city.

Regards.


Hye buddy, had a BBFS with a super hot girl in emporium & the tip I paid was 300 k only no cigarette or no hidden charges that too by the main bill so in short the answer to your question is yes emporium girls do BBFS & if you can negotiate better it will be as little as 200 k minimum & maximum 1 m. In my case girl was much impressed with my move that she happily accepted 300 k & she is now sleeping with me in my apartment for right now only for 1 m for a night. Go & try it's worth it. The full FR on my trip since 4 night journey will be posted by me soon. Maybe it help you or others.

Tarima kashis.

[Vendelo]

All the international flights go to CGK which is located in Tangerang a little north west of Central Jakarta. HLP is mostly a domestic airport served by three Indonesian airlines and for the president and visiting dignitaries. You will fly in to CGK.Thanks for the quick reply. Much appreciated.

[Expat American]

I am confused about the prices. You guys talk about tips, but is that in addition? In addition to what?

I have never been in Asia, but I am considering Jakarta. How much does a girl cost there? And where I can find girls? I don't like sex clubs, I don't like professionals. Does Tinder work there, or maybe other apps? Or I should use Facebook?

I have a smoking fetish, and I saw a lot of videos of Indonesian girls smoking. Is that quite common?If you have never been in Asia, I suggest going to Thailand instead. The scene is made for foreigners. Jakarta is a very local scene. You may or may not enjoy it. Many Westerners expect Thailand and then are disappointed. If you have never been to Asia, go to Bangkok and Pattaya. While they are not as good as they used to be, for a first timer they will blow your socks off. Jakarta not as much.

[Muzungufotsy]

I keep checking the conversion rate. Just to confirm, a 100,000 IDR tip equals about US $6.00. Is that correct?It s always a mistake to do the conversion in your own currency. It makes you overpay easily. Think local.

[Muzungufotsy]

I personally have always tipped 100 k or 150 k and that includes BBFS + CIP. Nobody has ever complained.Nobody complains if you just tip 50 k neither.

[Muzungufotsy]

I am confused about the prices. You guys talk about tips, but is that in addition? In addition to what?

I have never been in Asia, but I am considering Jakarta. How much does a girl cost there? And where I can find girls? I don't like sex clubs, I don't like professionals. Does Tinder work there, or maybe other apps? Or I should use Facebook?

I have a smoking fetish, and I saw a lot of videos of Indonesian girls smoking. Is that quite common?RTFF dude. This has been answered 100 times.

[Muzungufotsy]

Tips are paid, typically direct to the girl, in addition to the establishments' fees. Normally paid to girls who are employees rather than freelancers and it's not a large amount: 100 to 200 k.

Enjoy. G.200 k tip in a place like Classic or Travel is way too much. A tip should be 10% max not 50 % anyway. And tip is not mandatory in Indonesia. If service is normal I don't tip. I tip for specific service only. Locals don't tip at a restaurant or a cafe. This is not North America here!

I never tip for FLs and they always come back to me.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went back to the 2nd floor brothel at Classic about 7 PM last night. Counted 125 women (135 at 8 PM) so probably 150 in total (including the ones who were in the room or doing something else). Wasn't bothered by the mamasans too much this time as they knew I was going to take my time in choosing a girl. Circled the room a couple of times, trying to find someone I liked. One couch had some young ones I could do, so mamasan brought them up to me, I showed them on my cell phone my program, they agreed, so chose one, paid the mamasan the 365 K, went to the room. OK session, including um-requested BBFS. Gave her 150 K tip. She smiled and said thank you, so apparently the previous night's girl thought I was a sucker. Paid the 5 K entry fee and left.

Around 11 PM went to the Classic Club on the first floor. Dark as a cave, deafening sound volume, some dancers on stage. Asahi beer 110 K a bottle. Probably 65 girls, around 40 of them sitting in the back sofas, the rest sitting with customers and drinking. Not any better quality than the second floor. About half the girls sitting would occasionally get up to be presented to customers sitting in the dark. Don't know how they could even tell what the girls looked like given how dark it was. No reason to stay, so paid the 5 K entry fee and left after 10-15 minutes.

[Incrociatore]

Tips are paid, typically direct to the girl, in addition to the establishments' fees. Normally paid to girls who are employees rather than freelancers and it's not a large amount: 100 to 200 k.

Jakarta has one of the largest ranges of prices anywhere in Asia. 300 k isn't hard to find nor is a girl asking 3 million in a 5 star hotel's bar. RTFF for what to pay where.

Girls are everywhere: malls, online, bars, massage houses, bordellos, the list is endless. The only thing that Jakarta does not have is bars with barfineable gogos. Girls in bars are typically freelancers making their own arrangements.

Many civilians in Jakarta and girls are generally very approachable is you have the smallest amount of Game.

Tinder works but scammers of lady boys abound.

Lots of Indo girls smoke (cigarettes).

Enjoy. G.Prices are very good indeed. Looks as cheap as Africa. What is the English level? Can have a basic conversation? Any other countries I should consider in Asia?

[Giovanni Volo]

Hello everybody.

Yesterday I been in Mulia disco, and sound and everything was amazing. But price is high to go often. But the place has a crazy big value, price is understandable.

I would ask if in Jakarta they are place where you can meet all the same nice freelance, less 5 star, but still fun and safe. With girls more easygoing, but young all the same, g and with good price for the night.

I also will be back to Mulia another time for sure, music is crazy, But ai also looking for cheaper alternative.

I am also looking for other bar with just live music for the night, cheaper.

[AddictedToWomen]

I'm not a Tinder user, but might try it on my trip.

Any tips how to use it best?

[Goferring]

..And tip is not mandatory in Indonesia. If service is normal I don't tip. I tip for specific service only. Locals don't tip at a restaurant or a cafe. This is not North America here!

I never tip for FLs and they always come back to me.Agreed.

Upto you. It's your money.

Ditto.

Correct 90% of the time.

Really? I wouldn't know. I'm not American.

See the second sentence of my original post.

Enjoy. G.

[Zippos]

Prices are very good indeed. Looks as cheap as Africa.

Depends where in Africa but if you convert with USD then yes it's cheap.

What is the English level? Mostly novice to beginners level.

Can have a basic conversation? Mostly no unless you found a Pro FL. Basic level is stuck at very basic levels with use of common wording.

Any other countries I should consider in Asia? - Hell yeah, like others suggested, Go to Bangkok and Pattaya. Those pro will educate you and harden you for other Asian countries. Also, you will learn basic mongering rules of engagement there.

Jakarta is amazing and it has its own caveats but definitely not for first timer in Asia.

Another thing about Jakarta, 80% of its mongering scene is based on Massage, Spa, Sex club. Rest 20% is mixed of online and regular clubs with FL.


Prices are very good indeed. Looks as cheap as Africa. What is the English level? Can have a basic conversation? Any other countries I should consider in Asia?

[JohnIsFun]

Went back to the 2nd floor brothel at Classic about 7 PM last night. Counted 125 women (135 at 8 PM) so probably 150 in total (including the ones who were in the room or doing something else). Wasn't bothered by the mamasans too much this time as they knew I was going to take my time in choosing a girl. Circled the room a couple of times, trying to find someone I liked. One couch had some young ones I could do, so mamasan brought them up to me, I showed them on my cell phone my program, they agreed, so chose one, paid the mamasan the 365 K, went to the room. OK session, including um-requested BBFS. Gave her 150 K tip. She smiled and said thank you, so apparently the previous night's girl thought I was a sucker. Paid the 5 K entry fee and left.

Around 11 PM went to the Classic Club on the first floor. Dark as a cave, deafening sound volume, some dancers on stage. Asahi beer 110 K a bottle. Probably 65 girls, around 40 of them sitting in the back sofas, the rest sitting with customers and drinking. Not any better quality than the second floor. About half the girls sitting would occasionally get up to be presented to customers sitting in the dark. Don't know how they could even tell what the girls looked like given how dark it was. No reason to stay, so paid the 5 K entry fee and left after 10-15 minutes.I was there yesterday also. Got there around 9 pm and few mamasan were pushy and would call.

Random girls. I kept pushing back and said no. Most girls were young in 20's. For some reason my mind was playing tricks and only girls sitting with customers looked attractive. As they were laughing and carrying on. On the sofa it's were sitting looking bored. Being the first time found it hard to choose. I asked fe girls who were walking past but they would ignore you. Finally one agreed to go. Then there was waiting as she look for her mamasan, then the room voucher. This one was little curvy. Her name was Tristian. She had smoothin skin. Since she did not have to any effort to get me she was little subdued. She did not drink either. In the room.

She had huge boobs but they were not firm. She allowed touching. Little bit of kissing but was mostly starfish. After one round she got dressed and.

Said only one round. Well next time I will try two girls. Ok experience for the first time.

I had been to Royal VIP before classic as it was closer to my hotel. There must be 50 odd girls but they were sitting in the tables on the side.

Hard to see anyone. I did not ask for a lineup. This place was more expensive also. Asking 900 k instead of 365 k in classic. I found the girls in Classic no diffeeent than Royal. Only things is the Royal girls were dressed little better.

Thanks to the members here. The information was spot on and allowed me to taste the Jakarta night life. Will report back.

[Irish Mongrel]

I'm not a Tinder user, but might try it on my trip.

Any tips how to use it best?Do some prep work about a week before you go. Get a Tinder Gold subscription so you can set yourself up as being in Jakarta from wherever you are living. Yeah it's 40 $, but how much are you spending on your trip, and if you are going elsewhere use it for there as well. Put a proper picture in off yourself. Remember, you are only being seen in Jakarta. Put an honest comment in there. Visiting Jakarta, looking for some company / fun. I have a comment talking about traveling regularly to Jakarta, looking for dinner dates and fun. Start swiping and picking whatever meets your fancy. Remember to delete the account before you leave Jakarta, or suspend it until you want to use it again. You will get hit upon by plenty of lonely hearts. Lot's of ladies who have gone thru the Bule marriage grinder and are now back in Jakarta. I start to chat with the ones I liked and filtered out the out and out P4P - pretty easy to spot, they basically talked money from the start. Met some really interesting ladies who had fleeced their hubbies, set up in houses in places like Pondok Indah, not going to get anywhere with local guys so visiting expats provide their fun.

Haven't used it for a while as I picked up a nympho "freebie" student, that kept me more than satisfied for a long time. Thought there was zero chance, I'm in my 50's and just swiped right on a picture of an extremely fit looking 23 year old in a bikini. But she had a real daddy complex and replied immediately! Unfortunately she is now married to a Bule and popped out a couple or kids, and even then she still wanted to meet up. But it was becoming way to weird and the nympho sex drive had changed to the married mother drive which is probably why a lot of us are here. I'll be back on it (Tinder that is) on my next trip in, which will hopefully be next month.

[Rocinha]

Just a general enquiry- if one had only 4 nights in Jakarta would the Classic Hotel be a good option to stay?

And how far is the Classic Hotel from the good nightclubs?

[DiverOyster]

Just a general enquiry- if one had only 4 nights in Jakarta would the Classic Hotel be a good option to stay?

And how far is the Classic Hotel from the good nightclubs?I am planning to stay at the Luminor Hotel Pecenongan which is next door to Emporium. It's about a 10-minute walk to Classic per Google Maps.

[Banana Boi]

Around 11 PM went to the Classic Club on the first floor. Dark as a cave, deafening sound volume, some dancers on stage. Asahi beer 110 K a bottle. Probably 65 girls, <snip> No reason to stay, so paid the 5 K entry fee and left after 10-15 minutes.I know your review of The Bunker was a negative one but it's actually convinced me to try it next trip before leaving Classic. Guess it doesn't hurt to pay 31 cents US to go check out 65 girls. That's half a penny per girl.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I know your review of The Bunker was a negative one but it's actually convinced me to try it next trip before leaving Classic. Guess it doesn't hurt to pay 31 cents US to go check out 65 girls. That's half a penny per girl.I went to the Classic Cub on the 1st floor. The Bunker is in the basement but there is nothing there except a huge sign saying what is supposed to be there. Either it closed or never opened. There is also supposed to be the equivalent of the 2nd floor brothel on the 5th floor but everything above the 2nd floor is closed and there is no access to floors 3-5.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went to Sari Ayu and most of the clubs in that street, including Royal VIP, about 8:30 PM last night. No entry fee so no problem checking them out. Pretty much the same as Classic Club except maybe half the girls at Classic Club and girls either in the dark or packed into such a small area that you couldn't really check the girls out. Also, nothing special about Royal VIP. Don't know why they charge more.

Way too noisy to stay so just walked in, did a quick tour, and left each club. No need to return.

Then went to Travel Hotel. 14 K entry fee. Club on the ground floor, girls sitting on couches on the second floor. Lots of guys drinking in the club and watching the dancers. Drinks were cheaper than Classic Club. Only half the girls of the 2nd floor brothel in Classic and the same number as Classic Club. Saw one cute one as she was leaving the second floor with a guy. Might go back for her.

Came back to Classic since I am staying here and decided to check out the 2nd floor around 10 PM. Packed with guys. Almost the same number of girls as on Friday at 7 PM. However, fewer girls sitting on the couches, as they were either drinking with customers or in the rooms. Some couches were completely empty. Go before the drinkers arrive if you want to select from the full roster.

[Zippos]

It's a decent hotel. I've stayed there many times but not longer than 2-3 days. It's cheap, clean, decent breakfast and literally 50 step's away from the Terminal 2. I couldn't stand the not enough sunlight atmosphere for long.

In terms of night club, if you are looking for strictly clubbing experience then it's bit far. If you are looking for club with working girls. There several options within 20 minutes grab ride.


Just a general enquiry- if one had only 4 nights in Jakarta would the Classic Hotel be a good option to stay?

And how far is the Classic Hotel from the good nightclubs?

[Zippos]

Indeed it's 10-15 min walk but do factor in heat humidity and traffic leading to a sweaty discomfort unless you live in in Asia and used to the weather.

Luminor puts you within stone throw range with emporium but I don't exactly recall what else is there.

Do tell about your Luminot experience. I'm in need of 3 hotel change for my upcoming and so far I have 2.


I am planning to stay at the Luminor Hotel Pecenongan which is next door to Emporium. It's about a 10-minute walk to Classic per Google Maps.

[Expat American]

I know your review of The Bunker was a negative one but it's actually convinced me to try it next trip before leaving Classic. Guess it doesn't hurt to pay 31 cents US to go check out 65 girls. That's half a penny per girl.I checked out the bunker. Its not as good as the upstairs brothel. You can't see the girls easily and need to have mama sans bring a line up. Also loud and smokey. Girls have tiered pricing. A lot of the Spa girls come up after midnight to work there. ID rather fuck them in the Spa rather than upstairs after midnight when they are tired out and used up for the day.

[Giovanni Volo]

I been to Lokasari squadre today, following this post.

Around 9 pm a mamasan show me some girls. 400 k for 1 hour, plus 130 k hotel. 1. 5 million all the night in my hotel.

I like two and I took one.

Local hotel was disgusting. Just one towel for two. I ask for condom before pay. They told they look for it, but after nobody give me. Mamasan told to do not use condom finally.

I was disappointed.

I do everything because I already paid, but with no penetration.

Girls was nice. Room was too hot, air conditioner was working to less.

I like a lot the girl, also for habits. I am evaluating to take one in my hotel, with rela shower and condom.

What do you think about?

Better experience?

In your view I can just take girl for all the night, or also just 1 hour?

From tomorrow I am staying in Classic hotel for 4 night, then I will see.

The fact is that I like a lot the girl today, I think these are not really prof. But I will use condom for sure.

I also would try to go before, around 5 pm.

Not tomorrow: I would try therme of classic.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went to Classic Spa around 5:30 PM. Asked if I could check the lineup to decide whether I wanted to stay and pay the 125 K entry fee. Reception said OK but just 5 minutes. Walked in to where the girls were and there were only about 8-10 (even less than when I went Wednesday night and left because there were such few girls). Asked if there were going to be more available but apparently not, so left.

Walked to Emporium Hotel and went to the spa. Asked the same question there. Was told entry was 200 K but waived if I did a session. Wasn't going to pay 200 K just to see the lineup so left, which apparently surprised them.

Had dinner at a Vietnamese restaurant halfway between Emporium and Classic and then went to the 2nd floor at Classic. Not very many girls, maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of the number of girls the previous nights. Apparently a lot of them take off on Sunday. Did my walk around the club a couple of times and decided on a girl. Showed her my program. She agreed, so paid the 365 K and went to the room for an hour session.

She was very active and responsive in the session, especially during DATY. BBBJ but not BBFS. Seemed to enjoy being fucked, saying "yes baby, yes baby" while I was fucking her (she might have been faking it but if you can't tell the difference, it doesn't matter). Phone rang that time was up (15-20 minutes early appears to be the norm there). Since I was enjoying fucking her, I asked her if she wanted to stay another hour. She said yes, so she told reception we would be another hour.

We continued fucking, rested a bit when she got tired and chatted, then fucked some more when the phone rang (again 20 minutes early). She said time was up but I told her the time we arrived in the room and that we had 20 minutes left. She agreed and we fucked some more and I then had her try to suck me to completion but it didn't happen so we showered, I gave her 250 K tip and some chockolates, and we kissed goodbye.

Walked around the club and there were very few girls sitting on the couches, most of them at tables with customers. Again, get there early for a fuller selection.

When I went to pay my bill for the extra hour plus the entry fee, they gave me a copy of it (see attached). If I am reading it correctly, apparently the girls do only get about 90 K for the hour.

[AddictedToWomen]

Do some prep work about a week before you go. Get a Tinder Gold subscription so you can set yourself up as being in Jakarta from wherever you are living. Yeah it's 40 $, but how much are you spending on your trip, and if you are going elsewhere use it for there as well. Put a proper picture in off yourself. Remember, you are only being seen in Jakarta. Put an honest comment in there. Visiting Jakarta, looking for some company / fun. I have a comment talking about traveling regularly to Jakarta, looking for dinner dates and fun. Start swiping and picking whatever meets your fancy. Remember to delete the account before you leave Jakarta, or suspend it until you want to use it again. You will get hit upon by plenty of lonely hearts. Lot's of ladies who have gone thru the Bule marriage grinder and are now back in Jakarta. I start to chat with the ones I liked and filtered out the out and out P4P - pretty easy to spot, they basically talked money from the start. Met some really interesting ladies who had fleeced their hubbies, set up in houses in places like Pondok Indah, not going to get anywhere with local guys so visiting expats provide their fun.

Haven't used it for a while as I picked up a nympho "freebie" student, that kept me more than satisfied for a long time. Thought there was zero chance, I'm in my 50's and just swiped right on a picture of an extremely fit looking 23 year old in a bikini. But she had a real daddy complex and replied immediately! Unfortunately she is now married to a Bule and popped out a couple or kids, and even then she still wanted to meet up. But it was becoming way to weird and the nympho sex drive had changed to the married mother drive which is probably why a lot of us are here. I'll be back on it (Tinder that is) on my next trip in, which will hopefully be next month.Many thanks for all that! Really helpful!

[JohnIsFun]

Went to Classic Spa around 5:30 PM. Asked if I could check the lineup to decide whether I wanted to stay and pay the 125 K entry fee. Reception said OK but just 5 minutes. Walked in to where the girls were and there were only about 8-10 (even less than when I went Wednesday night and left because there were such few girls). Asked if there were going to be more available but apparently not, so left.

Walked to Emporium Hotel and went to the spa. Asked the same question there. Was told entry was 200 K but waived if I did a session. Wasn't going to pay 200 K just to see the lineup so left, which apparently surprised them.

Had dinner at a Vietnamese restaurant halfway between Emporium and Classic and then went to the 2nd floor at Classic. Not very many girls, maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of the number of girls the previous nights. Apparently a lot of them take off on Sunday. Did my walk around the club a couple of times and decided on a girl. Showed her my program. She agreed, so paid the 365 K and went to the room for an hour session.

She was very active and responsive in the session, especially during DATY. BBBJ but not BBFS. Seemed to enjoy being fucked, saying "yes baby, yes baby" while I was fucking her (she might have been faking it but if you can't tell the difference, it doesn't matter). Phone rang that time was up (15-20 minutes early appears to be the norm there). Since I was enjoying fucking her, I asked her if she wanted to stay another hour. She said yes, so she told reception we would be another hour.

We continued fucking, rested a bit when she got tired and chatted, then fucked some more when the phone rang (again 20 minutes early). She said time was up but I told her the time we arrived in the room and that we had 20 minutes left. She agreed and we fucked some more and I then had her try to suck me to completion but it didn't happen so we showered, I gave her 250 K tip and some chockolates, and we kissed goodbye.

Walked around the club and there were very few girls sitting on the couches, most of them at tables with customers. Again, get there early for a fuller selection.

When I went to pay my bill for the extra hour plus the entry fee, they gave me a copy of it (see attached). If I am reading it correctly, apparently the girls do only get about 90 K for the hour.Hi thanks for your reviews. It helps to have the upto date information. I left Jakarta for a customer visit and will be back. Maybe we will bump into each other on Wednesday. Planning to go back to Emporium and Classic as they are so close to each other. I wanted to try Emporium as reports say the girls are 8-9 there but not sure paying 3 times it will be fun also as it depends on the girl. My first experience at classic was literally a dud for me. Maybe I was tired from my long flight a lack of sleep. Partly she did not understand much English so no flirting happened except me telling her she is hot and pretty. That you can understand in any language. Haha But will see.

Can I ask you two questions. First one have you tried picking girls for the night club. My only problem is they get busy late after 11 pm. If it's going to be hard for someone over 50 yr to pick a college chick in 20. I rather go to either of the joints.

Secondly I am getting interested the thing on your phone that you show girls. Is it what you expect out of the girls translated in Indonesian.

[JohnIsFun]

First of all thanks to all the contributors. This thread has helped me use my first night in Jakarta well. Although I did not meet the right girl at Classic I am hopeful for the next visit. Could I ask for some advice to the more experienced Jakarta experts.

My hotel is in South Jakarta in Simatupang as I booked one close to the customer office. All the action is up north and the google maps shows Classic and Emporium over 45 min. Is there another place one can visit in the evening like 8 ish and save the taxi ride. I can see Jenja Jakarta and CJs, Dragonfly are closer. Immigrant is maybe next. So is it worthwhile trying to pickup a freelancer at one of those places.

Mars Spa Pandok is also not too far off. Would they have decent girls there. If it's pussy we are after and it's more how the girl perform then is it worth spending literally 2 hours in traffic.

I know it depends on personal preference. Since I am only get literally 3 more nights in Jakarta trying to best use my time.

Thanks, much appreciated.

[AresZ]

Went to Classic Spa around 5:30 PM. Asked if I could check the lineup to decide whether I wanted to stay and pay the 125 K entry fee. Reception said OK but just 5 minutes. Walked in to where the girls were and there were only about 8-10 (even less than when I went Wednesday night and left because there were such few girls). Asked if there were going to be more available but apparently not, so left.

Walked to Emporium Hotel and went to the spa. Asked the same question there. Was told entry was 200 K but waived if I did a session. Wasn't going to pay 200 K just to see the lineup so left, which apparently surprised them.

Had dinner at a Vietnamese restaurant halfway between Emporium and Classic and then went to the 2nd floor at Classic. Not very many girls, maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of the number of girls the previous nights. Apparently a lot of them take off on Sunday. Did my walk around the club a couple of times and decided on a girl. Showed her my program. She agreed, so paid the 365 K and went to the room for an hour session.

She was very active and responsive in the session, especially during DATY. BBBJ but not BBFS. Seemed to enjoy being fucked, saying "yes baby, yes baby" while I was fucking her (she might have been faking it but if you can't tell the difference, it doesn't matter). Phone rang that time was up (15-20 minutes early appears to be the norm there). Since I was enjoying fucking her, I asked her if she wanted to stay another hour. She said yes, so she told reception we would be another hour.

We continued fucking, rested a bit when she got tired and chatted, then fucked some more when the phone rang (again 20 minutes early). She said time was up but I told her the time we arrived in the room and that we had 20 minutes left. She agreed and we fucked some more and I then had her try to suck me to completion but it didn't happen so we showered, I gave her 250 K tip and some chockolates, and we kissed goodbye.

Walked around the club and there were very few girls sitting on the couches, most of them at tables with customers. Again, get there early for a fuller selection.

When I went to pay my bill for the extra hour plus the entry fee, they gave me a copy of it (see attached). If I am reading it correctly, apparently the girls do only get about 90 K for the hour.250 k is way too much a tip.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip.

Can I ask you two questions. First one have you tried picking girls for the night club. My only problem is they get busy late after 11 pm. If it's going to be hard for someone over 50 yr to pick a college chick in 20. I rather go to either of the joints.

Secondly I am getting interested the thing on your phone that you show girls. Is it what you expect out of the girls translated in Indonesian.I don't frequent night clubs so have no idea.

What I want in the session: shower together, kissing with tounge, give her massage, DATY, BBBJ, 69, covered fucking until time over.

[Expat American]

First of all thanks to all the contributors. This thread has helped me use my first night in Jakarta well. Although I did not meet the right girl at Classic I am hopeful for the next visit. Could I ask for some advice to the more experienced Jakarta experts.

My hotel is in South Jakarta in Simatupang as I booked one close to the customer office. All the action is up north and the google maps shows Classic and Emporium over 45 min. Is there another place one can visit in the evening like 8 ish and save the taxi ride. I can see Jenja Jakarta and CJs, Dragonfly are closer. Immigrant is maybe next. So is it worthwhile trying to pickup a freelancer at one of those places.

Mars Spa Pandok is also not too far off. Would they have decent girls there. If it's pussy we are after and it's more how the girl perform then is it worth spending literally 2 hours in traffic.

I know it depends on personal preference. Since I am only get literally 3 more nights in Jakarta trying to best use my time.

Thanks, much appreciated.Taxi to North Jakarta and back: 150 K. 19 yo slim Classic girl with BBFS including tip-600 K. Or YMMV with a 30+ hooker from CJ $1-$2 M. Your choice.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

250 k is way too much a tip.Did you notice in the bill that the girl gets not even $5 for the session (and that's probably before the mamasan's cut). The Jakarta brothels are apparently on the American restaurant system program: pay your employees minimum wage or less and let them depend on tips to actually make a decent living. Not leaving a good tip in a Jakarta brothel is the same as undertipping the server in an American restaurant. When I saw the bill I actually felt that I should have given her more.

[Irish Mongrel]

First of all thanks to all the contributors. This thread has helped me use my first night in Jakarta well. Although I did not meet the right girl at Classic I am hopeful for the next visit. Could I ask for some advice to the more experienced Jakarta experts.

My hotel is in South Jakarta in Simatupang as I booked one close to the customer office. All the action is up north and the google maps shows Classic and Emporium over 45 min. Is there another place one can visit in the evening like 8 ish and save the taxi ride. I can see Jenja Jakarta and CJs, Dragonfly are closer. Immigrant is maybe next. So is it worthwhile trying to pickup a freelancer at one of those places.

Mars Spa Pandok is also not too far off. Would they have decent girls there. If it's pussy we are after and it's more how the girl perform then is it worth spending literally 2 hours in traffic.

I know it depends on personal preference. Since I am only get literally 3 more nights in Jakarta trying to best use my time.

Thanks, much appreciated.8-ish is way to early to visit anywhere you mentioned above. CJ's isn't open till 9 pm and will have low volume of girls until much later. BATS in Shangri-la is open as it is also a general bar / restaurant, but FL not allowed in untill about 9:30 - 10 pm, then it's fun watching the parade of girls coming in from a seat at the bar opposite the stairs. If you are going to either and are not there at the weekend, then go Wednesday. Ladies night.

[Muzungufotsy]

250 k is way too much a tip.I agree and giving chocolates is even more shocking IMHO.

Why not a red rose next time?

[JohnIsFun]

8-ish is way to early to visit anywhere you mentioned above. CJ's isn't open till 9 pm and will have low volume of girls until much later. BATS in Shangri-la is open as it is also a general bar / restaurant, but FL not allowed in untill about 9:30 - 10 pm, then it's fun watching the parade of girls coming in from a seat at the bar opposite the stairs. If you are going to either and are not there at the weekend, then go Wednesday. Ladies night.Thanks Irish Mongrel for the reply. Agree night clubs only get busy late. I am back in Jakarta on Wed may try Emporoum or Classic Hotel.

[JohnIsFun]

Taxi to North Jakarta and back: 150 K. 19 yo slim Classic girl with BBFS including tip-600 K. Or YMMV with a 30+ hooker from CJ $1-$2 M. Your choice.Great advice Expat American. Thanks more risk with FL. At classic of the one girl does not work could go back for second.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I agree and giving chocolates is even more shocking IMHO.

Why not a red rose next time?I thought I was a Cheap Charlie but I am no match for you and AresZ.

[BKKguru]

250 k is way too much a tip.It is not!

I tip IDR 300 K or 400 K for excellent service and if the girl meets my expectations.

[BKKguru]

I am planning to stay at the Luminor Hotel Pecenongan which is next door to Emporium. It's about a 10-minute walk to Classic per Google Maps.Hotel Luminor is a solid 3 stars.

The location is A+. You can walk to Hotel Travel in 10 minutes.
If you are interested in streetwalkers, this is the best place to stay. Lokasari Plaza is next door.

Correction: Emporium is 3 Kms from Luminor. It is NOT next door. Short Taxi ride.

~BKK

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Hotel Luminor is a solid 3 stars.

The location is A+. You can walk to Hotel Travel in 10 minutes.
If you are interested in streetwalkers, this is the best place to stay. Lokasari Plaza is next door.

Correction: Emporium is 3 Kms from Luminor. It is NOT next door. Short Taxi ride.

~BKKThat is not correct. It is literally right next door.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Emporium+Hotel+-+Karaoke,+Club+%26+Griya+Pijat,+Pecenongan+Street,+RT. 1%2 FRW. 3,+Kebon+Kelapa,+Central+Jakarta+City,+Jakarta,+Indonesia / Luminor+Hotel+Pecenongan,+Pecenongan+St+No. 35,+Kebon+Kelapa,+Gambir,+Central+Jakarta+City,+Jakarta+10120,+Indonesia / at -6. 1646869,106. 8237548,17 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m14!4 m13!1 m5!1 m1!1 s0 x2 e69 f5 da58 eb7 f55:0 x938 d6 cd43 f7 ee6 d1!2 m2!1 d106.8263597!2 d-6. 1648186!1 m5!1 m1!1 s0 x2 e69 f5 da5 ecda557:0 x231 ad86 e140 e0 b89!2 m2!1 d106.8260866!2 d-6. 1645715!3 e2?entry=ttu.

[Zippos]

You are pretty much 40 min away from any action direction. I was going to suggest Bekasi or Cibinong but those are just massage places with action.

You are better off biting the bullet and head to north Jakarta.


First of all thanks to all the contributors. This thread has helped me use my first night in Jakarta well. Although I did not meet the right girl at Classic I am hopeful for the next visit. Could I ask for some advice to the more experienced Jakarta experts.

My hotel is in South Jakarta in Simatupang as I booked one close to the customer office. All the action is up north and the google maps shows Classic and Emporium over 45 min. Is there another place one can visit in the evening like 8 ish and save the taxi ride. I can see Jenja Jakarta and CJs, Dragonfly are closer. Immigrant is maybe next. So is it worthwhile trying to pickup a freelancer at one of those places.

Mars Spa Pandok is also not too far off. Would they have decent girls there. If it's pussy we are after and it's more how the girl perform then is it worth spending literally 2 hours in traffic.

I know it depends on personal preference. Since I am only get literally 3 more nights in Jakarta trying to best use my time.

Thanks, much appreciated.

[BKKguru]

I been to Lokasari squadre today, following this post.

Around 9 pm a mamasan show me some girls. 400 k for 1 hour, plus 130 k hotel. 1. 5 million all the night in my hotel.

I like two and I took one.

Local hotel was disgusting. Just one towel for two. I ask for condom before pay. They told they look for it, but after nobody give me. Mamasan told to do not use condom finally.

I was disappointed.

I do everything because I already paid, but with no penetration.

Girls was nice. Room was too hot, air conditioner was working to less.

I like a lot the girl, also for habits. I am evaluating to take one in my hotel, with rela shower and condom. <snip> If you like visiting Lokasari, you should stay in Hotel Luminor.
It is a 3 minute walk from Hotel to Lokasari.

You can bring the girl back to your Room. No time is wasted in Taxi ride and traffic.

Always bring the girl back to YOUR Hotel Room and stick to one hour.
The local Hotel you mentioned is disgusting and a mood killer.

~BKK

[BKKguru]

That is not correct. It is literally right next door.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Emporium+Hotel+-+Karaoke,+Club+%26+Griya+Pijat,+Pecenongan+Street,+RT. 1%2 FRW. 3,+Kebon+Kelapa,+Central+Jakarta+City,+Jakarta,+Indonesia / Luminor+Hotel+Pecenongan,+Pecenongan+St+No. <snip> Sorry, my bad.

I was referring to Luminor Hotel Kota on Jalan Mangga Besar.
From Luminor Kota (Mangga Besar) it is 3 Kms.

You are correct: Luminor Pecenongan is next door to Emporium.
Great choice if Emporium is your preferred destination.
You can walk to Emporium whenever you get the urge!

~BKK

[BKKguru]

First of all thanks to all the contributors. This thread has helped me use my first night in Jakarta well. Although I did not meet the right girl at Classic I am hopeful for the next visit. Could I ask for some advice to the more experienced Jakarta experts.

My hotel is in South Jakarta in Simatupang <snip> .Mr. Braid Bar and Lounge is in South Jakarta. You can read the Reviews on Google.
If you visit, please post your experience.

~BKK

[JSmithJ88]

It is not!

I tip IDR 300 K or 400 K for excellent service and if the girl meets my expectations.

250 k is a more than normal.
300-400 k is wayyy more than normal.

Ask any local dude in the bar next time how much they tip.
Its usually 50 k - 100 k.
Tell them you regularly tip 300+ and they will either get pissed at you or laugh at you.

Obviously you are going to do what you want with your money.
But it wouldn't surprise me when the girls start asking foreigners regularly for 300 k tips.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

250 k is a more than normal.
300-400 k is wayyy more than normal.

Ask any local dude in the bar next time how much they tip.
Its usually 50 k - 100 k.
Tell them you regularly tip 300+ and they will either get pissed at you or laugh at you.

Obviously you are going to do what you want with your money.
But it wouldn't surprise me when the girls start asking foreigners regularly for 300 k tips.The 250 K was for a 2 hour session.

[AresZ]

I thought I was a Cheap Charlie but I am no match for you and AresZ.What? You trying to be a savior, giving out above standard tip to save their asses? Don't let your fking sympathy ruin the market.

When asking for a big tip becomes the norm, people like you will be ones to be crucified.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Did a session last night at Classic 2nd floor. When the girl and I arrived in the room I showed the room attendant the time on my cell phone. The phone rang after about 50 minutes, the usual time to finish up, shower, and get dressed, not at about 40 minutes as before, so it seems showing them the time you enter gets you the full time.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Has anyone sessioned at Emporium? How many girls available when you went there. The girls worth the price difference? Thanks.

[Expat American]

Has anyone sessioned at Emporium? How many girls available when you went there. The girls worth the price difference? Thanks.Can you not even read a few pages back in the forum? I have posted recent TR of Emporium as has Super Love. But to answer you Yes, about 30 and Yes.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Can you not even read a few pages back in the forum? I have posted recent TR of Emporium as has Super Love. But to answer you Yes, about 30 and Yes.My bad. I have read back to the end of May but with so many posts I forgot the Emporium posts. However, rather than asking if there were posts about Emporium, I should have done a search for them and would have found your and Super Love's, as well as other posters, posts, and not needed to ask. Will keep this in mind for the future.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went to Classic Terminal on the 2nd floor about 6:30 PM. Found a girl but had to wait about 10 minutes for a room as they were all full. Apparently there is a rush of customers around 5:30 PM to get the girls while they are still fresh for the day.

[JohnIsFun]

Again the reviews other members have posted helped and I knew what to expect. My experience was great and would recommend at least visiting the place once. For me the biggest was the quality of girls and the setup.

Went to Emporium on Thursday. There were good 50 girls. The prices have gone up by 50 k. Now girls are 1. 25 m and 1. 45 m. The higher girls were are gorgeous except one or two. The 1. 25 were maybe had couple I would ignore. Mind you when you are sitting in front of 50 girls in red dresses all.

On their 20's it's hard to choose also. If any of these girls walked past in a mall definitely my eyes would follow. Couple girls had large boobs. I am not a big boobs guy so was not interested. Choose one young girl from the 1. 25 sofa. Her name was Kania. She was 20 and said she started working 4 months ago. She was not smiling before but when mama's a called her she was happy and giggling. We chatted for a while. The mamas an explained there is 30 min for the spa and 90 min for the room. I thought that was great as I don't like to rush and usually the 60 min session feels that way. The girl was happy to drink beer so we ordered one for her also. After 10 odd minutes decided to go to the Spa. There was a locker which opened from the sensor on the arm band. Changed into shorts and off we went to the pool which was heated. The water was warm and comfortable. They girl moved to a darker area and jumped in my lap. She squeezed by dick and was joking. Then she said it's big and wanted to see. She pulled my shorts down to have a look and giggled. I told her I also wanted to check her out and she pulled the top to side to show her perky boobs the way I liked. Then she said she does not have any hair in the pussy area and I asked to check. In the water I pushed the bikini to the side and felt the pussy, then touched her pussy lips. She was starting to get wet. I thought it was a good sign. Ticked her clitoris and had the tip of finger in. She then wanted to go to the room. I had to tell her it's 30 min for the spa and I want to enjoy. After another couple of minutes we decided to head to the room. Has a shower again and changed into a dry shorts. They seem to look after you. We went and the girl handed a voucher and was given a room. The room was pretty small. Just a doable bed and a large shower. There was a large mirror on the opposite side of the bed. Like most brothels. The girl cleaned herself in the shower. She may not have taken one after the spa. The sex was pretty standard. Except this girl said she could not take the dixk in the mouth as it was too big. So I told her she could just lick and kiss it. Which she did. She also sucked on the balls. I was tempted but did not do DATY. But I finger fucked her. She was so tight I could only get one finger in first. She was moaning and got excited. After coup of minutes I had the second fingers in and going fast. She was enjoying it and moaning louder now. I kept doing but she did not come. So after maybe 5 minutes got tired and stopped. We kissed for a while and then put the condom and did her in doggy. She was tight and I had to go slow. I asked her to stand next to the mirror as I wanted to watch her. She was tiny so this was probably not a good idea. The angle was not right for me. Any how pumped her for a while and I came. She said she was happy. Perhaps because I was gentle and not one of those guys who go hard. We changed after cleaning ourselves. All together it was a nice experience. The girl asked for a tip and I gave her 100. She was happy and left. I would recommend people going to Jakarta to try this place. Worth the extra.

[JohnIsFun]

After Emporium I was feeling fresh and thought of visiting the FL clubs. So here is my report. I did not want to pick but went for the experience.

Bats.

Entrance was 200 k and this get you a drink. I took the Bintang draft. There were about 20 girls. Mostly mid 30's. Band was playing. Fairly lively place. But talent was ordinary. Some girls were worth doing but not at the price they want. Will speak to few and see what they want. The band stopped after 10 min.

Tried to park myself in front of stairs and people watch. The talent was ordinary so left.

Went to Cj. Again entrance was 200 k which got you a drink. There was a pretty girl walking to the club so followed her and chatted to her. She was very present and would have takwn her of the balls were not empty. She sled for 3 m but would have come down to nearly half. She was with a friend who was more mischievous and wanted 4 m for both.

Then talked to an other girl Bianca who was in her 30 and said she is botiqur owner. There were good 5-10 girls doable. But not sure how enthusiastic they would be once inside the room.

Left around 1:10. The freelancer really try hard. Most girls would give you a smile. While others just ignore you.

For me if I had to pick up a freelancer I would fife Bats a miss. CJ was better. But again in a place like Jakarta when there is option of Classic and Emporium and the others does not pay to get a freelancer. You may be lucky and get one who is fun. But more chances of an ordinary experience.

[JohnIsFun]

The the last night in Jakarta. I was thinking of doing partying but since I had already seen the two clubs I thought going to Classic again. The price I paid to get into Bats and CJ's 200 k each would pay for 1 HR with a girl at Classic.

Went to Hotel Classic again. Got there 6:30. The place was full of girls and fewer customers. Second visit understood what was happening. Went in and ignored the first mama san. Told her need to have a drink first. One understood and offered a seat and sat next to me. These women must be on commission as they pounce on you before you know. She wanted me to pick girls from her lot. I did not like anyone so told her I am picking the girl from the other sofa. She went to call the mamasan for that group.

Finally they call the girl. Straight away the girl asks if we can two girls. The mamasan also chips in. I told them only one. This girl starts to get cosy. She was happy to come close. Since she was friendly I told her to call her friend. Doing threesome was on the bucket list and Classic only cost 500 k for two. The second girl was bit shy. I should have read the red flags as it was a bat choice to allow the girl get her friend. As we went in the room they both starting doing girl talk. Slow in staking shower. The language barrier did not help. The second girl was crazy, she pored disinfectant on paper towel to clean me and also had the condom in there.

In the bed they explained that one will be down giving blow job while the other kisses. Now the second girl refused to kiss. So I put the condom and sid the girl in doggy. Took a break asked both to massage me which was hopeless again. Then did the first girl in cow girl, missionary and doggy. Washed myself and walked out. The girls asked for tip and I gave 100 k to each. They may not get much out of the 500 that went to the club.

On the way out thought of popping in Club Classic on the ground floor. They had nearly 80 to 100 girls. The sitting area for the girls is like a cinema. The seats at the back are raised which allows to look at the girls to select. There were two girls dancing on the stage. I could not stand the loud thumping music so walked out. Took the grab back to the hotel at 8:40. Overall took longer to get there than my session. Ticked 3 some of the list but it was very ordinary.

[SuperLove]

Mentioned several times on the forum, Not all girls do all services. Always check with mamasan first and then select a girl. You paid the price of being a newbie.

It's not the money that hits the monger, the opportunity cost is his time and energy (in this case his finish).


In the bed they explained that one will be down giving blow job while the other kisses. Now the second girl refused to kiss. So I put the condom and sid the girl in doggy. Took a break asked both to massage me which was hopeless again. Then did the first girl in cow girl, missionary and doggy. Washed myself and walked out. The girls asked for tip and I gave 100 k to each. They may not get much out of the 500 that went to the club.

On the way out thought of popping in Club Classic on the ground floor. They had nearly 80 to 100 girls. The sitting area for the girls is like a cinema. The seats at the back are raised which allows to look at the girls to select. There were two girls dancing on the stage. I could not stand the loud thumping music so walked out. Took the grab back to the hotel at 8:40. Overall took longer to get there than my session. Ticked 3 some of the list but it was very ordinary.

[Doggus]

Hey folks,

I'm a decent looking native English speaking 40 yo white guy and am planning to visit the region for several weeks around September / October. I am specifically looking to visit a couple of cities (3 max) where I can meet local girls (non pro) via dating apps like Tinder / Bumble / Hinge. I'd like to visit cities where the girls are sexually liberal and not too conservative i. e. Where I have a shot at sleeping with them after say a couple of dates (I understand no guarantees in this regard). I also like visiting massage places from time time but only seek HJ ending and not full service.

Would Jakarta be a good suggestion or is more suited to guys are looking to pay for FS at venues such as Classic? I read that Jakarta can be a good hunting ground for Uni students and MILFS looking for some action from white foreigners. I'm also considering places like Manilla, Bangkok, KL and Taipei.

Any recommendations on where I should head based on the above would be much appreciated.

Many thanks!

[Zippos]

Needs some tweaking on your engagement rules. Tell mami what you desire and tell that to your girl / girls before closing the deal. 90% of the time, you would want your prime girl to choose her parted because if they are not comfortable being naked in front of each other, your entire session will be wasted.

Have a translated version of BJ or CBJ, FK or DFK ready to show it to the girl with a sentence stating " if I am happy with your services and you do what I desire, I will give you good tip".

Always worked for me. Hope these helps and better luck next time.

Another option if you really want a good 3 sum, explore those massage places that offers that. Massage gills tends be more friends with each other yielding in better chemistry throughout the session.

(not mamma san. Jakarta is not in freakin Thailand).


The the last night in Jakarta. I was thinking of doing partying but since I had already seen the two clubs I thought going to Classic again. The price I paid to get into Bats and CJ's 200 k each would pay for 1 HR with a girl at Classic.

Went to Hotel Classic again. Got there 6:30. The place was full of girls and fewer customers. Second visit understood what was happening. Went in and ignored the first mama san. Told her need to have a drink first. One understood and offered a seat and sat next to me. These women must be on commission as they pounce on you before you know. She wanted me to pick girls from her lot. I did not like anyone so told her I am picking the girl from the other sofa. She went to call the mamasan for that group.

Finally they call the girl. Straight away the girl asks if we can two girls. The mamasan also chips in. I told them only one. This girl starts to get cosy. She was happy to come close. Since she was friendly I told her to call her friend. Doing threesome was on the bucket list and Classic only cost 500 k for two. The second girl was bit shy. I should have read the red flags as it was a bat choice to allow the girl get her friend. As we went in the room they both starting doing girl talk. Slow in staking shower. The language barrier did not help. The second girl was crazy, she pored disinfectant on paper towel to clean me and also had the condom in there.

In the bed they explained that one will be down giving blow job while the other kisses. Now the second girl refused to kiss. So I put the condom and sid the girl in doggy. Took a break asked both to massage me which was hopeless again. Then did the first girl in cow girl, missionary and doggy. Washed myself and walked out. The girls asked for tip and I gave 100 k to each. They may not get much out of the 500 that went to the club.

On the way out thought of popping in Club Classic on the ground floor. They had nearly 80 to 100 girls. The sitting area for the girls is like a cinema. The seats at the back are raised which allows to look at the girls to select. There were two girls dancing on the stage. I could not stand the loud thumping music so walked out. Took the grab back to the hotel at 8:40. Overall took longer to get there than my session. Ticked 3 some of the list but it was very ordinary.

[D Cups]

Five days at Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. Very nice hotel included breakfast and dinner. Went to Classic twice to see the same girl, Fita, a spinner with big boobs for $27/ pop bareback. Girls at Emporium much better like everyone says but more expensive ($74). Got a beautiful busty one named Mega who spoke good English and was a really good lover so I had her spend the night with me at Holiday Inn for 2 M ($124) well worth it. Also went to Travel and had a slim busty for very cheap but she was unenthusiastic. Mustafa Inn is near Holiday Inn (walking distance) so I also had a massage there but not that great. I think Indonesian girls are very nice and many are quite attractive.

[Zippos]

Considering what you are looking for.

Jakarta has all that and added bonus majority of girls are pretty. May encounter some language barriers though. Also, plenty of massage places who would be happy to give a HJ for any package you pick.

Pinay loves to date blues and very active in dating apps. Though not sure how would be the quality of HJ massage places but I wouldn't be surprised if you could score that at a legitimate massage shop. Also, pinays are not as pretty as Indonesian.

Thailand would be third, plenty of HJ places and Thai women's are decent to date. Just watch out for ladyboys as they comes in disguise.

If this is your first time in South East Asia, have an open mind to embrace the traffic and women's asking you for money telling most heartbreaking stories you could possibly write a script for next Hollywood blockbuster.


Hey folks,

I'm a decent looking native English speaking 40 yo white guy and am planning to visit the region for several weeks around September / October. I am specifically looking to visit a couple of cities (3 max) where I can meet local girls (non pro) via dating apps like Tinder / Bumble / Hinge. I'd like to visit cities where the girls are sexually liberal and not too conservative i. e. Where I have a shot at sleeping with them after say a couple of dates (I understand no guarantees in this regard). I also like visiting massage places from time time but only seek HJ ending and not full service.

Would Jakarta be a good suggestion or is more suited to guys are looking to pay for FS at venues such as Classic? I read that Jakarta can be a good hunting ground for Uni students and MILFS looking for some action from white foreigners. I'm also considering places like Manilla, Bangkok, KL and Taipei.

Any recommendations on where I should head based on the above would be much appreciated.

Many thanks!

[Expat American]

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In the bed they explained that one will be down giving blow job while the other kisses. Now the second girl refused to kiss. So I put the condom and sid the girl in doggy. Took a break asked both to massage me which was hopeless again. Then did the first girl in cow girl, missionary and doggy. Washed myself and walked out. The girls asked for tip and I gave 100 k to each. They may not get much out of the 500 that went to the club.

.I have had many 3 somes. The trick is to not let the girls decide the script. You have to direct the action. Once you take charge, the girls will almost always comply with your directions. The problem with a lot of western men is that they are too timid. If you let the girls set the pace or decide on what to do, you will never get the best experience. Women (especially in Asia) are wired to respond to a mans lead in bed. This advice applies to all aspects of mongering as well as dating. Before I get flamed, this does not mean in any way to be coercive. No still means No. But most often you will not hear a No once you get going.

[Expat American]

Hey folks,

I'm a decent looking native English speaking 40 yo white guy and am planning to visit the region for several weeks around September / October. I am specifically looking to visit a couple of cities (3 max) where I can meet local girls (non pro) via dating apps like Tinder / Bumble / Hinge. I'd like to visit cities where the girls are sexually liberal and not too conservative i. e. Where I have a shot at sleeping with them after say a couple of dates (I understand no guarantees in this regard). I also like visiting massage places from time time but only seek HJ ending and not full service.

Would Jakarta be a good suggestion or is more suited to guys are looking to pay for FS at venues such as Classic? I read that Jakarta can be a good hunting ground for Uni students and MILFS looking for some action from white foreigners. I'm also considering places like Manilla, Bangkok, KL and Taipei.

Any recommendations on where I should head based on the above would be much appreciated.

Many thanks!Not really. The English level of most girls is not great. If you do meet some upper crust educated women, the English will be good but very low chance of bedding. The Philippines is the best country in the region for dating for a short term visitor. I have often found non paid hook ups and dates without too much effort. Taiwan is great if you live there like I did for two years, but it takes time and not suitable for a short visit.

[Zippos]

These are pure facts about Asian women. No reason to be flamed for laying it out bluntly. Timidness won't yield much success unless plan is to be submissive to a WG. I've met those odd ones (normal girl) who would just walk off for saying no but then the scene changes at places like classic or similar joint. That's why I came up with the strategy of laying out rules of engagement before hands both with Mami and the girl before paying. One thing I must mention, don't add RAW / BBFS to this strategy of pre-payment negotiations though, try luck in room for a decent tip. 99.9% of the time mami and girl won't buzz for BBFS simply because it's against their rules at most places.


I have had many 3 somes. The trick is to not let the girls decide the script. You have to direct the action. Once you take charge, the girls will almost always comply with your directions. The problem with a lot of western men is that they are too timid. If you let the girls set the pace or decide on what to do, you will never get the best experience. Women (especially in Asia) are wired to respond to a mans lead in bed. This advice applies to all aspects of mongering as well as dating. Before I get flamed, this does not mean in any way to be coercive. No still means No. But most often you will not hear a No once you get going.

[Banana Boi]

Also went to Travel and had a slim busty for very cheap but she was unenthusiastic. The story of Travel these days it seems. Has anyone here had better sessions at Travel lately than the other options in Jakarta? I don't mean only because they do BBFS I mean for a Travel girl to be a better fun session than say KI, Classic, Emporium, etc.

[Bkk212]

Quick report on the bar scene as I rarely visit massage a bit to untidy for me blok m is not quite the same.

Not much happening and ladies are more 5/6 quality.

I did try an ojek friend he was located by the Chinese area on hayam wuruk.

Quality was 8/9 friendly but lots of restrictions which is.

A turnoff ojek 500 k tip 100 k.

One suggestion don't give out your number to them.

As now they constantly SMS for rent money.

Bad move on my part. Anyway off to BKK and.

Hopefully the 9 on soi 23 sukhumvit.

More to post later.

[MrMiyaG]

First day.

This is my first post. First of all let me start by thanking all the members that have contributed to this forum.

I would have never been able to monger the way I had mongered on my recent trip to Jakarta.

I'm a regular In Thailand, the scene there is so easy because everything is out in the open but in Indonesia (Jakarta) it's a little different. *.

Without ISG I would have never known about the places like Classic and Travel and how they are set up. *.

So I felt obligated to write a report to help others planning a trip to Jakarta. *.

My first day in Jakarta I already had a rough idea how my day would be. Checked in Holiday Inn hotel, pretty good hotel with a gym, pool, good breakfast and in the center of the activities. Approx 10-15 min taxi ride to Hotel Classic, Travel and the same the north to RoyalVIP, Royal, Starmoon bar. Anyway took a shower went to a restaurant in City walk (shopping center) which is right next to Holiday Inn hotel and then took a little nap because I was exhausted from my trip. After that it was time for some play time.

Arrived at Hotel Classic at around 7 pm with Grab 40 k, walked in the lobby of the hotel on the right hand side you have classic ground floor aka the bunker (which I've never been in after reading the forum) In the lobby I was looking for the elevators to take me to the second floor on the back side of the lobby, but on the second day I found that taking the 2 escalators up on the left was much easier to reach the club on the second floor.

At the entrance they give you a little bracelet with a number on it so when you go with a girl or order drinks they know on which tab they put it on. *.

So here comes the fun part, when you are entering the premises, look I have RTTF so many time and I kinda knew what tot expect with the Mamas there and I was prepared to move a certain way dogging them, but say bye bye to my theories and knowledge from reading the forum LOL. It was very overwhelming for a first timer, they were fighting over me, pulling me left and right to meet their girls. I tried to sit down at one of the tables before you knew it a mama brought 10 of her girls for the line up, keep in mind I haven't even looked at the girls on the couches I was only fighting to get rid of the mamas LOL. *.

Well rookie mistake number 2, mama told me one girl 365 k (odd number but whatever) and 2 girls 500 k. Cute girls, but I think I would never picked them after seeing what was available in the club. Since a trio is like almost on every mans bucket list and also on mine I took 2 girls from that lineup. Paid mama 500 k on the spot and she disappeared with the girls. That was the only time I had a change to look at the talent in the building, ordered a coke and after the drink arrived the girls came back with their purses and we went to a room, the rooms were downstairs from the club, not big just a bed and a shower no toilet and ac. My first trio so I was excited one of the girls spoke a little English the other 0. I took a shower first and after that they took turn showering one was young, slim perky tits, the other clearly had a baby, with boobs beginning to sagg but still doable because she had a lovely ass. I was already hard at that point and ready, but then one of them started whipping me down with mouthwash on a paper towel which was weird and also a turn off. One started licking my nipples while the other was licking around my dick. After that she gave me a covered BJ for a couple of minutes after that showed pain in the jaw which indicates she's tired of sucking. I was like ok then let's f then. I did that for a couple of minutes while the other one was looking and touching my nipples (do men really get aroused by that? I know I don't LOL). So I ask to switch girl, but the other one said condom, so we switched condoms and I took her doggy for a couple of minutes and busted a load in the condom. After that we took separate showers and I gave them each 100 k tip they wanted more but 100 k looked to be a fair amount. *.

My take on the trio, it's good to get it checked off the bucket list and for that price I say yes. But my experience wasn't what I had in mind, maybe if you know the girl or if the girls are friends it's ok who are willing to touch and kiss each other. But here in this case 3 total strangers with no chemistry isn't really fun. *.

We went up and I walked a little on the floor and scoped the talent, I wasn't bothered by mamas this time. I saw a lot of beautiful ladies also some laying half dead (sleeping) on the couches but the jet lag was also taking a toll on me so I decided to go my hotel. Before you leave the place, you need to go to the counter and give them your bracelet and they will check if you have a open balance to you number. I only had a coke so I paid that and they will give you some kind of plastic board thing and now you can walk out and give it to the ladies at the front of the entrance. *Overall it was a decent night but journey will continue.

The next day. *.

[Doggus]

Thanks both for the intel.

Flying into BKK seems to work well from a price & logistics perspective and so I will probably spend a week or two there first. I think Manila sounds like a good bet to spend 2-3 weeks where I can hopefully find some joy from using the dating apps with massage+HJ places as a fallback option.

Cheers.

[Zippos]

Of course at any time. Keep an eye on Jakarta and Manila forums. I will be in Asia around September-October. I will try and test some non-regular joints on my upcoming trip and post FR here.

Just a food for thought, Why not make a short trip to Jakarta from Manila for 4/5 days just to test the water. By then, you will have some sort of idea of how things work in that part of the world. Cebu Pathetic (Pacific) has daily flights from Manila to Jakarta. Budget airline but not bad compared to PAL / Garuda.


Thanks both for the intel.

Flying into BKK seems to work well from a price & logistics perspective and so I will probably spend a week or two there first. I think Manila sounds like a good bet to spend 2-3 weeks where I can hopefully find some joy from using the dating apps with massage+HJ places as a fallback option.

Cheers.

[Vendelo]

Five days at Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. Very nice hotel included breakfast and dinner. Went to Classic twice to see the same girl, Fita, a spinner with big boobs for $27/ pop bareback. Girls at Emporium much better like everyone says but more expensive ($74). Got a beautiful busty one named Mega who spoke good English and was a really good lover so I had her spend the night with me at Holiday Inn for 2 M ($124) well worth it. Also went to Travel and had a slim busty for very cheap but she was unenthusiastic. Mustafa Inn is near Holiday Inn (walking distance) so I also had a massage there but not that great. I think Indonesian girls are very nice and many are quite attractive.Did you both leave and go to your hotel together?

Does Emporium frown upon girls going to a customer's hotel?

[Expat American]

Thanks both for the intel.

Flying into BKK seems to work well from a price & logistics perspective and so I will probably spend a week or two there first. I think Manila sounds like a good bet to spend 2-3 weeks where I can hopefully find some joy from using the dating apps with massage+HJ places as a fallback option.

Cheers.You're welcome. I am curious though about why straight P4 P is out of the question for you? Dating "nice" girls is dangerous if you lead them on with false promises (not saying you will). And the line between normal girl and prostitute is very thin in Asia. Money in exchange for sex is a well established tradition, and even the civilian girls are hoping for some financial gain. Sometimes its easier to fuck them, pay them and leave them with no drama. Just something to think about.

[MrMiyaG]

Woke up went to the gym and had a good breakfast at the Holiday Inn.

I thought it would be a good idea to hit up a massage parlor to start the day. Around 12 I found the number of Sugar and Spa massage and GLOW and send them both a message.

They send me a message with the available ladies for that day and the options:

-Sensation blow.

VIP 60' IDR 435 k (pm, blow, topless).

-Jackpot Express.

VIP 60' IDR 545 k (massage sensual, eksekusi).

-Full package.

Suite 90' IDR 645 k (massage tradisional, pm, blow, eksekusi).

-Double Jackpot.

Suite 135' IDR 905 k (standing massage, blow, eksekusi).

-NURU Black.

Suite 135' IDR 905 k (body massage, sensation nuru, eksekusi).

Also got a response back from Glow massage and lounge.

-GP IDR 360 k (90 min) : Massage, BJ, Topless, MMC, MK, CIM.

-Silver IDR 470 k (60 min) : ALL IN.

-Boom IDR 500 k (90 min) : Massage + ALL IN.

-BFJ IDR 540 k (90 min) : Massage + ALL IN + BM.

-BL IDR 340 K (60 min) : BJ, Topless, MMC, MK, CIM.

-3 Some IDR 770 k (120 min) : Massage, ALL IN, 1 Crot.

-All you can eat IDR 800 k (120 min) : ALL YOU CAN EAT, 2 Crot.

-NORMAL IDR 280 K (90 min): Massage + HJ.

-BENG2 IDR 400 K (80 min): Massage, BJ, Nacked, MMC, MK, FK, FF, 69.

I decided to go to GLOW. When I arrived at 1 pm the dude at the desk showed me the available ladies on a tablet, there were only 4 available at that time.

I choose short blonde girl with big tits and I went for the GP option. I was shown to a room, decent size. When my lady arrived we got undressed (my option said topless but she got fully naked). We got to talk a little bit, she didn't spoke much English but enough for some small talk. I laid flat on my stomach and got a pretty good massage from her after a while I turned around and she started massaging me on the front and then she slowly followed with a good no cover blowjob at that point we where already 1 hour in the session and busted a load in her mouth, which I think caught her by surprised, she immediately went to spit it out in the shower LOL. She didn't complained after that so I think it was ok for not warning her in advance. We cleaned up after, I gave her a little tip and took a grab to my hotel. Had something to eat and took a rest.

Later that day around 18:00 pm, I ordered Grab and went to hotel Travel. Walk around a bit, didn't see anything special, walked to the back where most of the ladies sit on caughes, got 2 line up from Mama but still wasn't impressed with the talent. So decided to leave, I paid 14 k on my way out.

Ordered a Grab and went to RoyalVIP, Starmoon, Royal and 1 other bar there can't remember the name all in the same square walkig distance from each other, but nothing that caught my eyes. I found that in RoyalVIP the ladies are dressed a little bit nicer and look a little more mature. If I'm not mistaken I was quoted prices of 900 k for a lady.

I ordered a Grab again to hotel Classic.

This time at classic I felt like I got hang of it, walked in the lobby, took the escalator on the left hand side and then the second escalator and reach the club. Took my bracelet at the entrance and walked in like I owned the place. Mamas came rushing to me but I politely shooked them off, sat down at a table and checked out the talent. My eye caught a pretty young slim girl with braces, don't remembered her name. Mama saw I was checking her girl out so she lazerd her to me (funny how the mamas point lazers to the girls to call them). She came to me real with real GFE hugged me, kissed me, rubbed against me all that right on the floor it felt good. It didn't took long for me to know this was the right girl for me and I gave mama the 365 k and we went to the room. P.S. Some mamas bring the change back to you, others keep it and don't say anything. It isn't a big deal only 35 k =2 euro. In the room she continued with the GFE, kissing, hugging me etc. We took a shower together and then went to bed. This time no whipping down with mouth wash (that's a fucking turn off). She continued kissing and gave a no cover BJ. I put on a condom and went all sort of positions, at some put she said no condom and I was like did I hear you correctly are you sure? Usually I don't go BB but the chemistry was there, she looked clean and smelled good so I went in without a rubber. Didn't took me long and I pulled out and busted on her stomach. Now that I think of it, it might've been a tactic of her to finish me quicker LOL (I don't care I loved every moment of it). We cleaned up and we laid a little on the bed before going back upstairs. I gave her a 200 k tip and she was happy she kissed me goodbye and we walked our separate ways. I think it was one of my best experience in classic.

To be continued.

[United1]

Hello Gents,

I am flying into CGK airport in a few days. Anyone fly in recently and can comment on their expereince with Immigration, Customs, Visa on Arrival, blah, blah, blah?

I heard because of cyber attack on immigration, there are maybe long lines for foreigners to come to Jakarta airport.

Thanks and appreciate.

[D Cups]

Did you both leave and go to your hotel together?

Does Emporium frown upon girls going to a customer's hotel?She met me there after her shift.

[Banana Boi]

I heard because of cyber attack on immigration, there are maybe long lines for foreigners to come to Jakarta airport.You didn't say which country you're from so I can't tell you exactly how things will go for you. Your first line up will be to purchase a Visa on Arrival if that is required by your country. That line up is never long. They collect your money and you get your Visa on Arrival. The next line is likely the one you are referring to. You will see signs that say Foreigners. That line is super slow and can be very long. There are also many machines to your left. I lined up for nearly an hour once in the Foreigner line cause I figured I'm not from Indonesia so I'm a foreigner. When I got to the front of the line the IO just rolled his eyes at me. He pointed to the automatic machines and laughingly tells me to not waste his time because I didn't need to line up in the Foreigners line. I assume it's because I got a VoA. My advice is always try to use the machines first.

Now here is the sucky part. If you end up lining up for an hour in the Foreigners line up you will notice your luggage will be missing when you try claiming it. You have to walk back to a room at the BEGINNING of the baggage carousels and prove that they have a piece of your luggage. I didn't know where it was so walked around and around until I found it.

[Vendelo]

She met me there after her shift.Thanks for your response. Much appreciated.

[WhoCaresReally]

Hello Gents,

I am flying into CGK airport in a few days. Anyone fly in recently and can comment on their expereince with Immigration, Customs, Visa on Arrival, blah, blah, blah?

You can buy the evisa online before you arrive. Else, you will have to stand in queue and pay in USD / EURO / IDR (Viet Dong Etc are not accepted). If you have a e-visa already with you, move to immigration directly which can be late sometimes. Also, there is a customs declaration that you have to make digitally. Connect to the Wifi CUSTOMS DEC, scan the QR code that is displayed all over the place, fill up your details and keep the screen shot of the QR code that is generated after submission. Scan this QR code at the customs exit post baggage collection.

Download GRAB app before you go or after your arrive for local transport, Food delivery which is very convenient.

[Jingo10]

You can buy the evisa online before you arrive.Has anyone else had problems with the evisa, I took many photos and tried to load and all got rejected. I tried for hours. The following day I tried again with the same photo and it read it successfully, I got through most of the screens and then it rejected me saying my email address wasn't a valid one and sent me back to the start again. I just got a VOA.

[Expat American]

You didn't say which country you're from so I can't tell you exactly how things will go for you. Your first line up will be to purchase a Visa on Arrival if that is required by your country. That line up is never long. They collect your money and you get your Visa on Arrival. The next line is likely the one you are referring to. You will see signs that say Foreigners. That line is super slow and can be very long. There are also many machines to your left. I lined up for nearly an hour once in the Foreigner line cause I figured I'm not from Indonesia so I'm a foreigner. When I got to the front of the line the IO just rolled his eyes at me. He pointed to the automatic machines and laughingly tells me to not waste his time because I didn't need to line up in the Foreigners line. I assume it's because I got a VoA. My advice is always try to use the machines first.

Now here is the sucky part. If you end up lining up for an hour in the Foreigners line up you will notice your luggage will be missing when you try claiming it. You have to walk back to a room at the BEGINNING of the baggage carousels and prove that they have a piece of your luggage. I didn't know where it was so walked around and around until I found it.I can confirm that US passport with VOA is eligible for automated gates. No need to stand in line. Also, I have never had a line for VOA either. For me CGK has always been a smooth experience flying in. Flying out with Air Asia though is a confusing mess. Multiple flights from the same gate at the same time, no clear announcements etc.

[Lumens]

I had problems renewing last week. It was scary because a delay of 24 hours meant overstaying. There was a big hack of imagrasi late June and they just announced they just moved their data to Amazon severs last week. I went to Kantor imagrasi to deal with it. Some offices will give you visa same day if you go there in person but not all of them do that. So you have to find out which ones are nearest to you that do that.


Has anyone else had problems with the evisa, I took many photos and tried to load and all got rejected. I tried for hours. The following day I tried again with the same photo and it read it successfully, I got through most of the screens and then it rejected me saying my email address wasn't a valid one and sent me back to the start again. I just got a VOA.

[SuperLove]

This is a freaking mongering forum and not visa counselling services. Get over this loser and move it to a different field.

One more reason why this forum has become uninteresting. Google your visa services needs and requirements elsewhere. Go get a life dude!


I had problems renewing last week. It was scary because a delay of 24 hours meant overstaying. There was a big hack of imagrasi late June and they just announced they just moved their data to Amazon severs last week. I went to Kantor imagrasi to deal with it. Some offices will give you visa same day if you go there in person but not all of them do that. So you have to find out which ones are nearest to you that do that.

[D Cups]

Hello Gents,

I am flying into CGK airport in a few days. Anyone fly in recently and can comment on their expereince with Immigration, Customs, Visa on Arrival, blah, blah, blah?

I heard because of cyber attack on immigration, there are maybe long lines for foreigners to come to Jakarta airport.

Thanks and appreciate.1. Get 500,000 Rupiah ($30.50 USD) for Visa on Arrival. ATMs at airport. 2. Wait in line at VOA. 3. Wait in line at Immigration. If anyone has a better way to do it please advise.

[DevSagar]

Jshah, you have literally screwed my happiness with your excellent feedback and FR of your experience's. At least, for me; you have raised the bar and added on to the forum. You have lit it up. This is what we strive for; pleasurable, memorable and fulfilling experience's of a lifetime which will be buried with you in your grave. Superb report.

Regards.


HI all,

As some of you know I had my first trip to Jakarta from 29 -7 of this month, I must say it's one of mongering paradise which have pretty much for every monger out there.

This forum is super helpful hat off to you guys for your contributions. Without the lights of Super, BB, Devsagar & many others this trip wasn't possible & maybe my soul will then be never unearthed heheh. So as promised here are the details & tips for this heaven.

First, ISG is banned so anyone trying to use it need to have a VPN, I used secure VPN as it was for free & worked great use banned sites like ISG.

Day 1. Travel.

Reached CGK airport at afternoon, did payment for VOA & got my passport stamped & proceeded to custom clearance which was smooth because of advance e-declaration which I did prior to my departure. Took a sim from airport, chit chatted with the girl on the counter a bit, asked her private number for further meeting & she helped me book a grab for my apartment near glodok mall. Tell you brother that feels great to hit the bull's eye on first strike. Any ways got in grab & changed my tinder location to Jakarta & chatted sim-girl all the way to my bnb in glodok. Took some rest, freshen up & went to travel as it was the closest destination. By 9 pm I was at travel, the setup is same as most of the brothers described sitted for some time in main hall sipped the beer & let mamas to show the lineup, unfortunately didn't like any from the lot so decide to move to the backroom where girls were sitting on sofas & punter were walking around to have a look. Selected a girl Wulan, slim & young & in her early 20's, proceeded to the room & cleaned up for the action. She cleaned up & came to the bed, started kissing & have lots of oral fun, she got aroused much by my finger actions & needed the penetration. She came up to me & started rubbing her clits on my tool & I felt the wetness of her, suddenly to my surprise she slipped tool inside her without using cover. This was new to me as from where I belog having a BBFS is dilemma for most of the girls. But she didn't shown any such issue & continued riding me on top. It was the time I lost control of decency & started fucking her wildly she enjoyed it & after a good 15-20 minutes of intense pounding / fucking I finally came inside her & she took it as champ & didn't complained. We got up cleaned up chatted for some time, exchanged contacts & I handled her a tip of 50 K which she took happy & kissed me to say bye.

It was 10.45 pm now & the jet lack made me call up for the night. Chatted some of the matches from tinder, also tried someone from MIchat to accompany me for night but option didn't worked up as most of the MIchat were bait & switch (Not matching in vdocall as per there pics) or tinder matches which were far from my location mostly south Jakarta.

Wulan.

Face 6.

Be**BS 7 small but firm & pressable.

Fig 8 slim & thin frame.

Attitude 8 friendly.

Exp 8.

WIR Nah many fish in pond.

Day 2.

Got up at around 10 am & hit the gym at bnb society to loosen up a bit, took my breakfast & started scrolling online option for monger as in day offline options are all dried up. Connected with some profile on tinder, MIchat & bumble most of the profile didn't want to come to outcall to my place or need advance to come up to my place without having any vdocall. I tried to filter out all of them as mongering first rule lies no advance and suddenly to my surprise a super-hot pic profiled messaged me & said 300 K for an hour in call with no advance but I need to visit to her hotel which was as per there saying Holiday Inn GM, for me it was next door to me so I said why not I reached Holiday at around 1 pm & called on the number provided on MIchat. Call picked by girl & saying she wants to meet me for fixed price (300 K an hour) but her handler needs to have some guarantee so that I don't do any harm to her as first time user of this service provide LOL. I was shocked & said this is not what I expected but with her sober story of safety & willingness to meet me I agreed. She messaged me a number whom I need to confirm my attendance to her & have to pay advance & so-called refundable guarantee money. I messaged & received a PDF of the service & guarantee money of 600 k refundable after deed within a minute. I suspected it which got more refrained after I sent my selfie standing near sign board of holiday inn hotel as asked by them. It was then I stopped any further commutation & started heading to my apartment, I received continues calls from the handler & the girl number and number of times which I ignored & reached my apartment. Settled down & was happy to not to be a victim of this trap, received a message of threat from girl number sending me my own selfie & telling me to send money or they will go to polisia (police). It was now confirmed that it was a MIchat spam to me. I didn't frightened-up & as an experienced monger I knew the things already & said the girl number & handler number to go & fuck themselves, next blocked them. No further communication & I think they got what they needed hehehe. After which I took bath & headed to Glow spa just infront of hotel travel just because a monger follower recommended it somedays back & it opens early at around 12 am. Reached there by 2. 30 pm & guy at counter shown me option in his mobile which I didn't got convinced so he said to get in to the main hall & he will call the lineup. Got the lineup & selected tall, young & puffy Putri. & headed for a 90 minutes package for 560 k. Had a good experience with her in the room & spent good 75-80 minutes with her before cleaning up.

Putri.

Face 7.

Be**BS 8 good size & round.

Fig 7 no belly & meat at right place.

Attitude 9 friendly.

Exp 7 (didn't liked the room ambience even though girl was new & too much submissive).

WIR no it's not a place for foreign monger it's a cheap setup for locals with only 5-6 selection & below average rooms.

Also, that was a covered FS as per girl insistence & no tip from me.

Got back to apartment & had my lunch ordered from grab & at around 5 pm reached Emporium.

Met David at 1st floor entrance & headed to see the lineup. There were around 11 girls in the room 5 in 1. 2 M & 6 in 1. 4 M category. Selected a 1. 2 M girl form the lot just because of her short appearance & larger than life smile.

That time I didn't knew this girl will rock my whole trip guys. Let's call her Miss be.

She took me to the pool with lots of kissing DFKs & of course boobs sucking, fingering all her holes & then after 30 minutes we proceeded towards room which was spacious & clean. We both got cleaned up with each other's lips locked together & after that jumped on the bed, she started kissing me all over & I enjoyed pressing & fingering her with all these long DFKs. I got to know that she is young & her V is smell free & fairly tight with super hygiene it was then I made her lay down & kissed her all along & started enjoying DATY, which made her so much horny & excited at the same. I must say she enjoyed it much & was about to cum when she stopped me for giving me a great sloppy BJ. It was all looking fantastic watching her sucking my tool in the wall / roof mirrors & letting her bounce her spotless glowing body all over me. Literally buddy that was an experience of lifetime for me. Anyways had the usual wild stuff but in the middle of it I thought to give it a try for BBFS & while stroking I stopped & took out the cover, started doing it bare from behind, she first got little uncomfortable but didn't stopped me as she also was enjoying it on the pick. Got the stuff done & both of us shattered on the bed, it was then she shared we that she didn't get DATY that often & her willingness to like it much. We exchanged contacts cleaned up & I started to leave when she asked me have a tip as it was BBFS. She had a receipt paper on which we have to mark the tip if we want to give which starts from 200 k, 300 k,500 k & 1 M. I ticked 200 k which she made sad face so I ticked 300 k as I was super happy with the experience. Got out & settled the bill of 1. 6 k including the 300 k tip & a beer.

Miss be.

Face 9 (natural cute face).

Be**BS 8.

Fig 9 right amount of meat at right place.

Attitude 10.

Exp 9.

WIR I already did repeat her.

Got out at around 7. 30 pm had some food next door as there are some good restaurants near EMP. Booked my grab & reached Royal bar in KI (next door to starmoon) at around 9. It has good ambience have around 40-50 girls around, I settled down & ordered my beer, mama came, discussed the type of girl I am looking & after 10 minutes came with a cute & tall girl named Nani or Nancy I guess. Tried to communicate with her through translator, she ordered a pack of cigarette & I continued with my beer, Mama told me it will be 400 k for a hour & I decided to go & settled the bill maybe around 570 k. Got in room, both cleaned up & proceeded to bed in which she started putting her tantrums of not letting her touched, only namesake BJ. I got the message that it will not be enjoyable one so I told her put the cover & started thrusting as much as quickly as I can. 5-10 mints of pounding & I was done, cleaned up & said no tip because of your bad attitude & she accepted her fault, came downstairs & started to leave, Mama got me on the bar door to ask about exp. I said it was not good & she apologized & said next time she will try to give good girl. Anyways its part of mongering You hit some good ones along with bad too.

Then headed to starmoon, similar setup but prices are 350 K & 400 K for FLs. Selected a girl from 350 K Anya, short slim girl with good assets, chitchatted her over the beer & proceeded to the room. Same routine of cleanup & the deed, I must say she was very friendly & great response in bed, DFK, BJ, DATY, multiple positions everything was great. After the deed, we spent some good 15 minutes cuddling each other in bed she wanted to stay with me more & said if can buy 5 vouchers (I. E. 350 kx5) for her she wants to join me in my room for night. I was exhausted & needed to rest as it was already around 2 am, told her will try to take her next night which she understood, exchanged contacts tipped her 50 k she got delighted & parted away.

Called for night & took a good sleep.

Day 3 Classic spa, EMP, MTR.

Got up at around 1 pm ordered my breakfast from grab & got freshen up. Today my plan was clear to burn calories / money to classic spa & 2nd floor, then hit to starmoon & take last night girl out to my apartment for night. Reached classic spa in basement at 3 pm, took badge enjoyed sauna & got sitted in main hall for having look on the available girls while slipping my beer. It was a bit early that time 8-9 girls that time & girls were still coming as it was nearing 4 pm only, mama called the lineup didn't liked any sent them back. Waited for some time & seen a new girl Venia waking in & sitting on the couch of 600 k tag called mam & selected her. Chatted with her for some time through translator & went to room. It was on the room when she took off her clothes I released I got a pearl there. She was not less then a 9 with 165 cm having DD on slim waist she was a rare found in classic, but shy as she was new there as she told. It was a blissful 50 minutes or so & I enjoyed it whole. Got contacts exchanged & tipped her 50 K on which she laughed so I added 50 k more & we parted with kiss. Got out & settled the bill & stopped on the ground floor to eat. It was around 5 pm & received a WA from Emporium girl which I met yesterday, she was interested in meeting me too for tonight if I want. I said why not deal fixed for 2 M from 7 pm to 8 am. I reached my apartment & waited for her she reached around 7. 30 pm, OMG she is was looking so cute in normal attires. It was a wonderful experience we drunk, ate danced & of course the intense love making in between, mind you it was all BBFS & it felt more like exchanging emotions not just stocks a pure GFE. I find out that she is very much fond of sex & likes it much if her partner knows how to play properly with tongue & fingers, it makes her so much wild & horny I just can't put that in words brothers. Anyways as all things needs to end the night ended & in morning we both didn't want to get away, but she needs to reach to EMP for work & I need to have some serious sleep we parted away.

It was a hell of experience which I will take to my grave, kind of makes me horny whenever I remembered it.

Day 4.

After last thrilling night took some rest got up at 2 pm, got ready & reached classic spa as it's the one which starts earliest for the action. Selected a girl from 600 k pool & she was a small size bomb in the room, small built but see cups & a tiny waist with cute face unfortunately I forget her name (my mind was still in shock of last night exp.) , refused to BBFS but it was fine for me stocked her properly & after some cuddling with 100 k tip for her performance & digits exchanged. Settle the bill & just before I was going upstairs to 2nd floor received the wa from last night / EMP. Girl again. She liked it so much she wants to meet me today also, but she can't come for night as her boss in EMP. Will not allow so she wants to come around 7 pm & will leave at 12 am midnight. I was thrilling from inside, but I told her babes we just spend last night doing the same stuff on which she offered she will bring her friend from EMP. With her if I want. A proper 3 some in my apartment, now that's what was new to me I said ok & deal set for 7 pm, frankly speaking I was a bit worried because of the reported 3 sum experiences of classic in this forum by some of the follow mongers. But it was all fumed away.

Girls reached my place on time & her friend named venicia was also pretty sexy with DDs & fair skin & nice figure little tummy but she was young & meat at right places must be a 8 or at least solid 7. In room we drink little bit chatted watched some videos & then I took the initiative & started kissing both of them, her goes the dress & motions getting intense & I started licking & finger action on Veni & got her aroused mean while my fav was working on me giving be a great sloppy BJ, kissing all over. Then I took attention of be. Made her horny & told her friend to play with other also which she first shy but was on toes after arousing. Pulled V. Down & inserted in her & kept on playing with be. She was already wet & I can feel it by my tool. Took turn & inserted in be. & stroked her. Next 25-30 minutes was intense sex in all possible position & manner. It was wild, it was wet & was amazing. We all shattered on the bed to catch up our breaths & laughing seeing each other face. Ordered sushi & had some more beer with cigs, enjoyed food & we all were ready for another round. It was an experience brother seriously no cover or any restriction I can simply pull out from one & insert in other no stopping or any consideration just wild fucking. Finished the deed, we all got cleaned up with our lips in each other. Dressed up & ready to part at around 12 am. They booked grab for themselves & I handed 1 M each to both of them (they didn't ask any amount from me, but I thought its worth tipping them).

I took a short nap to come over this mesmerizing encounter. Booked grab at around 1 am to MTR. Check out the collection & atmosphere which is better then others in KI. 400 k for 1 hour same here also but more girls like I guess 100-150 minimum & quality of girls is slightly better than royal or starmoon. Asked mama for a tall & slim girl, she shown line up selected one young girl with the cups bazookas just because she was smiling & hinting me to take her. Didn't remember the name but is was great in bed & attitude was much submissive & friendly, was ok with BBFS even I didn't bothered t ask just inserted the tool she didn't complained. Enjoyed for some time then finished in her, we cleaned up I tipped 50 k she was happy with it.

Came down to bar had another beer & called for night.

The FR is getting long brothers so needs to split it in another part. Will post it soon as I get time from workaholic lifestyle.

& yes I generously wants to share one tip with the fellow monger here that as far as I have observed girls in here are very much in sex & are truly very horny & they didn't get enough of it as much as they want not even WGs. Most of the girls didn't have a good DATY or someone them even don't know about it. But all these girls love it so much & that's the only reason I think most of them were very much involved in the act with me & that's the key of success here I guess.

Bro, if it smells good, looks good, feels good then why not do DATY & make her mad for you. I do it if girl is clean & smell good & I love it all this tongue action whether lips or p**sy.

Finally, I just loved Jakarta, it's a must go destination for all the monger. Yes things are not open as much open in BKK or Phil but girls over here are very much different they are shy in public but wild in bed & are very involved / generous towards the act, not like other destinations where most of the girls are too much mechanical.

Until next time have fun & fuck buddies.

& feel free to ask any query if I am able to help will feel grt.

Terima kasih.

[Pk099]

Great detailed report. Thank you. I am visiting next week, will try to post as much as possible.


HI all,

As some of you know I had my first trip to Jakarta from 29 -7 of this month, I must say it's one of mongering paradise which have pretty much for every monger out there.

This forum is super helpful hat off to you guys for your contributions. Without the lights of Super, BB, Devsagar & many others this trip wasn't possible & maybe my soul will then be never unearthed heheh. So as promised here are the details & tips for this heaven.

...

[Jingo10]

This is a freaking mongering forum and not visa counselling services. Get over this loser and move it to a different field.

One more reason why this forum has become uninteresting. Google your visa services needs and requirements elsewhere. Go get a life dude!What's with the aggressive post dude, way out of line. Just ignore if you ain't interested. He responded to my query which the mods could move to the general thread but relates to a post here. I assume you ain't one of the mods? No need to respond as this thread is for one purpose only in your eyes.

[Marceting]

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[MrMiyaG]

After breakfast I did a couple of touristy things and walked around in China town which isn't really that far from Holiday inn. Sinds Holiday Inn is one of the hotels that is mentioned a lot by ISG members I write this report. Went back to the hotel and saw some flyers for in-house massage so I made a appointment for 90 min Aroma Therapy. Traditional massage 60 min 250 k, 120 min 400 k, Aroma therapy 60 min 300 k, 90 min 325 k). The massage would take place in my room (the spa at the hotel was closed I assumed it usually takes place there). Either way I was fine with that, so went to my room and took a shower before the massage. After 15 min my doorbel ringed and a masseuse was standing at the door. Nice lady I think she was in her late 40's dressed nicely not to sexy but she looked good. Maybe in her prime years I would've totally do her, but not now. Any way I got fully naked, she didn't, and I laid face down (by the way the massage setup was just with a blanket on my bed). I got a real good back and leg massage after a while she asked me to turn and massages me on the front, I got a semi hard on and she noticed it then she asked if I wanted a HJ for 1 million, I think that would be the total price 325 k massage + 675 k for the extra service I laughed and said no thank you, she lowered her price to + 500 k for the extra service but still I declined. In the back of my head I thought there are 50+ young 20 year olds waiting for me in hotel classic or travel who provide more for less. So why waste my holly water on this? LOL. She finished the normal massage, gave her a little tip and of she went. So for those who are staying in Holiday Inn there is an extra option to bust a load if the price is ok for you and the masseuses are your type. I must admit it is very convenient to do it in your own room right on the spot (maybe on a rainy day) P.S. Sometimes some masseuse stand in front of the elevators in the early evening looking for clients.

Part2 at Hotel Classic.

[BKKguru]

Part1.
<snip>
I got fully naked, she didn't, and I laid face down (by the way the massage setup was with a blanket on my bed). I got a real good back massage after a while she asked me to turn and massages me on the front, I got a semi hard on and she noticed it then she asked if I wanted a HJ for 1 million, I think that would be the total price 325 k massage + 675 k for the extra service I laughed and said no thank you, she went to + 500 k for the extra service but still I declined. <snip> Good to know about the In-Room massage and the price drop to 500K for the "extra" service. LOL!
For 500K, I would expect her to get fully naked and allow me to touch her private parts etc.

Did she use oil OR just do a dry massage?

Thanks,
~BKK

[MrMiyaG]

Good to know about the In-Room massage and the price drop to 500K for the "extra" service. LOL!
For 500K, I would expect her to get fully naked and allow me to touch her private parts etc.

Did she use oil OR just do a dry massage?

Thanks,
~BKKYeah the price she quoted me wasn't worth it since I know what talent is out there. Maybe if I'the agreed to it she also would get naked and I would have acces to her? Guess we will leave that part for other ISG members to find out.

The massage on its own was a good oil massage (Aroma Therapy) with good pressure.

[SuperLove]

I was at grand hotel mercure harmoni and they had in room massage as well. I went to their fitness level and the manager showed me some 20-25 photos on the iPad and asked me for top 3. I did and selected one. Paid about 600 k-800 k. And she came to room and I asked her to undress immediately and she quote 1-1. 2 juta and I said no. She continued with massage but when she realised I wasn't falling for it she reduced the asking and offered HJ and undressed. I enjoyed but did not finish as I saved my holy cum for classic and emporium. She was of course not happy but I did give her some tip. Bucket list ticked off, but in my eyes not worth it. Better to go for a professional massage nearby unless you are really horny and cannot hold on. Girl was mid to late 30's and not worth the spending. To do or not to do your call. For me city has so much to offer, One advise for punters. Make your finish count because this city has endless opportunities and options. Enjoy and report.


Good to know about the In-Room massage and the price drop to 500K for the "extra" service. LOL!
For 500K, I would expect her to get fully naked and allow me to touch her private parts etc.

Did she use oil OR just do a dry massage?

Thanks,
~BKK

[Zippos]

It's becoming more and more common these days. I had once, a FUGLY 50+ quoted 800 k for HJ. I was like, I would take the money out from my right pocket and put it in left and give myself one. Won't say no to a young good looking one though.


Good to know about the In-Room massage and the price drop to 500K for the "extra" service. LOL!
For 500K, I would expect her to get fully naked and allow me to touch her private parts etc.

Did she use oil OR just do a dry massage?

Thanks,
~BKK

[TempStories]

Reached there just around 6 pm. There were 10-15 girls of both 1. 25 and 1. 45 m variety. Couldn't get myself to pick any in the lower priced category. In higher priced, only found 2 girls beautiful. The one who knew english refused to give BBBJ so I took a chance with the other one. I was in hurry, so skipped the spa. In the room, hhe told me her name is kelly and she is 20. Her boobs were large and natural, but service wise she turned to be horrible. Gave me BBBJ but it was very light. She allowed me to kiss her lips, but no where else on the face or neck, stating that her makeup will go bad.

When we started the main act, it was clear BBFS not even an option. She had trouble in missionary positioning after 5-7 minutes of fucking. There was some pre-cum in the condom and when I wanted to switch, she said I am done. It was a struggle explaining that I was not. I said I will finish in mouth, but there again after a minute of BJ, she said I am too big for her mouth. She did not have more than 1 condom, so we were at an impasse. She again insisted I was done. I was totally turned off by now and it did not make sense to argue further. Left the room, paid 1. 45 m and told mamasan that I was not happy.

Compared to Bangkok, I liked that girls are all natural boobs. Language is also an issue it seems. I know this was a single bad incidence, but I cannot convince myself to leave Bangkok and come to Jakarta for mongering.

[United1]

Quick one. Thanks everyone for inputs. I can confirm that Jakarta airport allows foreigners with EVOA to use the automatic gates. Just need the QR code (either on the mobile or the print out).

[TempStories]

Does anyone know from what time of the day are there enough girls here for a visit?

[MrMiyaG]

Does anyone know from what time of the day are there enough girls here for a visit?From my experience there is no set answer. Believe they open at 2 pm, girls come in different shifts, 2,4,5 and maybe 6 and later. If you are lucky you might find your dream girl at 2 pm sometimes you can't even find a girl that is ticking of all your boxes at the peak of the night. For me the sweet spot is between 4 and 6, when the girls are still semi "fresh", not to many other customers, not so much sig smoke in the room (I'm not a smoker) and music isn't that loud yet. Only downfall is the mamas will be little more aggressive pushing their girls because there aren't many customers yet.

[SuperLove]

You acted like a rookie. I mentioned on the forum many times not all girls will give all services and this happens everywhere classic travel emporium 1001 Jakarta Bangkok Manila. I think you acted like a newbie or played over smart, in either case this didn't help you. You should have read the forum and flipped a few pages, expected you'll get super par services in just a walk in. Most guys out here are extremely satisfied. Girl sensed you are a rookie punter and you got played. PM me. Cheers.


Reached there just around 6 pm. There were 10-15 girls of both 1. 25 and 1. 45 m variety. Couldn't get myself to pick any in the lower priced category. In higher priced, only found 2 girls beautiful. The one who knew english refused to give BBBJ so I took a chance with the other one. I was in hurry, so skipped the spa. In the room, hhe told me her name is kelly and she is 20. Her boobs were large and natural, but service wise she turned to be horrible. Gave me BBBJ but it was very light. She allowed me to kiss her lips, but no where else on the face or neck, stating that her makeup will go bad.

When we started the main act, it was clear BBFS not even an option. She had trouble in missionary positioning after 5-7 minutes of fucking. There was some pre-cum in the condom and when I wanted to switch, she said I am done. It was a struggle explaining that I was not. I said I will finish in mouth, but there again after a minute of BJ, she said I am too big for her mouth. She did not have more than 1 condom, so we were at an impasse. She again insisted I was done. I was totally turned off by now and it did not make sense to argue further. Left the room, paid 1. 45 m and told mamasan that I was not happy.

Compared to Bangkok, I liked that girls are all natural boobs. Language is also an issue it seems. I know this was a single bad incidence, but I cannot convince myself to leave Bangkok and come to Jakarta for mongering.

[BKKguru]

When we started the main act, it was clear BBFS not even an option. She had trouble in missionary positioning after 5-7 minutes of fucking. There was some pre-cum in the condom and when I wanted to switch, she said I am done. It was a struggle explaining that I was not. I said I will finish in mouth, but there again after a minute of BJ, she said I am too big for her mouth. She did not have more than 1 condom, so we were at an impasse. She again insisted I was done. I was totally turned off by now and it did not make sense to argue further. Left the room, paid 1. 45 m and told mamasan that I was not happy.

Compared to Bangkok, I liked that girls are all natural boobs. Language is also an issue it seems. I know this was a single bad incidence, but I cannot convince myself to leave Bangkok and come to Jakarta for mongering.In recent times, this is the first reported negative experience in Emporium.
If I paid 1.45 Juta, I would be pissed too.

You selected this girl on your own without consulting Mamasan. Is this correct? When you complained to Mamasan, what was her reaction?

The language barrier is a HUGE issue in Indonesia. For some reason, it does not get much coverage in this forum. Without Google Translator, I would not even bother visiting Indonesia.
Conversely, if you can speak Indonesian, you will be in the drivers seat.

Jakarta is NOT Bangkok. Not everyone will like Jakarta. This has been posted here multiple times.
Jakarta, as a city, is classic 3rd world: broken sidewalks, open sewers and perennial traffic jams. For those who love to walk, Jakarta is not for you.

~BKK

[TempStories]

Yes I did select on my own. Mamasan just smiled when I told her. May be I should have shown more disappointment. Most of my conversation with the girl was on google translate only, but language does create a big barrier in Jakarta.

I am sure both BKK and Jakarta are mongering heavens. I compared the two since I was seriously thinking of shifting my target to Jakarta after reading all the reports on the forum, but as you rightly said, Jakarta is not my cup of tea.


In recent times, this is the first reported negative experience in Emporium.
If I paid 1.45 Juta, I would be pissed too.

You selected this girl on your own without consulting Mamasan. Is this correct? When you complained to Mamasan, what was her reaction?

The language barrier is a HUGE issue in Indonesia. For some reason, it does not get much coverage in this forum. Without Google Translator, I would not even bother visiting Indonesia.
Conversely, if you can speak Indonesian, you will be in the drivers seat.

Jakarta is NOT Bangkok. Not everyone will like Jakarta. This has been posted here multiple times.
Jakarta, as a city, is classic 3rd world: broken sidewalks, open sewers and perennial traffic jams. For those who love to walk, Jakarta is not for you.

~BKK

[Delbo1]

In recent times, this is the first reported negative experience in Emporium.
If I paid 1.45 Juta, I would be pissed too.

You selected this girl on your own without consulting Mamasan. Is this correct? When you complained to Mamasan, what was her reaction?

The language barrier is a HUGE issue in Indonesia. For some reason, it does not get much coverage in this forum. Without Google Translator, I would not even bother visiting Indonesia.
Conversely, if you can speak Indonesian, you will be in the drivers seat.

Jakarta is NOT Bangkok. Not everyone will like Jakarta. This has been posted here multiple times.
Jakarta, as a city, is classic 3rd world: broken sidewalks, open sewers and perennial traffic jams. For those who love to walk, Jakarta is not for you.

~BKKHe paid 1. 45 he should have got top service. I don't see how consulting mama or papasan before picking would make any difference in this instance. The girls remain seated if they don't want to go with you.

He should have got a Decent service.

[BKKguru]

He paid 1. 45 he should have got top service. I don't see how consulting mama or papasan before picking would make any difference in this instance. The girls remain seated if they don't want to go with you. Please read Post# 18122 from SuperLove.

[DevSagar]

Honestly, my experience's at this place have been one of my best ones in my mongering journey. I was crystal clear cut and specific with my requirements openly stated to Mamasan what I was looking for and my message was conveyed to the chick in her native language. She delivered and made it a memorable and fulfilling experience. I do not know why you did not convey your needs to the Mamasan before finalizing the chick. I am damn sure if you would have, certainly it would not have happened what happened. I am truly amazed to see your FR of negative experience.

Regards.


Reached there just around 6 pm. There were 10-15 girls of both 1. 25 and 1. 45 m variety. Couldn't get myself to pick any in the lower priced category. In higher priced, only found 2 girls beautiful. The one who knew english refused to give BBBJ so I took a chance with the other one. I was in hurry, so skipped the spa. In the room, hhe told me her name is kelly and she is 20. Her boobs were large and natural, but service wise she turned to be horrible. Gave me BBBJ but it was very light. She allowed me to kiss her lips, but no where else on the face or neck, stating that her makeup will go bad.

When we started the main act, it was clear BBFS not even an option. She had trouble in missionary positioning after 5-7 minutes of fucking. There was some pre-cum in the condom and when I wanted to switch, she said I am done. It was a struggle explaining that I was not. I said I will finish in mouth, but there again after a minute of BJ, she said I am too big for her mouth. She did not have more than 1 condom, so we were at an impasse. She again insisted I was done. I was totally turned off by now and it did not make sense to argue further. Left the room, paid 1. 45 m and told mamasan that I was not happy.

Compared to Bangkok, I liked that girls are all natural boobs. Language is also an issue it seems. I know this was a single bad incidence, but I cannot convince myself to leave Bangkok and come to Jakarta for mongering.

[MrMiyaG]

Later that day around 3 pm I ordered Grab and went to hotel Classic. When I arrived the couches on the left hand side where basically empty with just a hand full of girls. Most of the girls where sitting on the right side of the entrance. Mamas came running to me but I ignored them and sat on one of the barstool to scan the talent. Ordered a drink and one mama called her girls for a line up. Without asking me what I'm looking or what my type is these line up are dumb and I decline most of them. Sometimes these poor girls have to walk all across the room in their heels (like recently born calves) just to walk back because the customer don't want them. Anyway with my drink I walked the room and got a little closer to the girls but couldn't find anything that I was looking for and sat down again (maybe I was to picky that day). One mama came to me and told me I think I have a girl for you, you would like. Her name was Kiki young, I think she said 19, slim, no baby showed me a picture of her on her phone but I couldn't see her clearly so I said ok let me meet her. Mama said she is still in the dressing room getting ready to start her workday, mama walked in a couple of times to check up on her and she send her straight to me. I was happy when I saw her, very cute girl ticked all of my boxes, "talked" (google translate) a little bit paid mama the 365 k and left her the change and went to the room. In my experience Kiki is the type of girl that knows she hot and act a certain way, a little full of herself checking herself out in the mirror playing with her hair, fixing her dress etc. Either way we got undressed got in the shower, nice slim body I played a little with her little tits and pussy she didn't mind. We went to bed got a little listerine wipedown and she gave a good no condom BJ. She put on the condom and went on top and rode me a good couple of min, I took control again and I fucked her this time in all other positions. Went to doggy she was loving it looking at herself in the mirror being rammed. I also liked the view, it's like watching your own porno movie. I finished in that position, we cleaned up, gave her a little tip and we walked our separate ways. Back on the floor I sat on one of the barstools again mama saw me and came back to me and asked me how Kiki was, I said she's good and I'm happy. I gave mama a 50 k tip. I talked a little with her she ended up giving me her WhatsApp number telling me when a new girl comes or one that is my type she will message me. I also asked her about taking girls out to my hotel. She said it is possible she then took out her phone calculator and wrote 6*365 k= 2190 k. That is the working time the girl has left on her shift that day. I don't know how much of that money goes to the girl. She did gave me a deal and removed one session and the take out price would have been 5*. I declined but it's good to know what is possible.

I did arranged something with a girl from classic but that is for another report.

[Scarer]

Yeah the price she quoted me wasn't worth it since I know what talent is out there. Maybe if I'the agreed to it she also would get naked and I would have acces to her? Guess we will leave that part for other ISG members to find out.

The massage on its own was a good oil massage (Aroma Therapy) with good pressure.Just wanted to add some info I have regarding this. I try this every time when there is an in-room massage option at the hotel as I prefer MILF type women. Trust me, Indonesian women are too soft when are aged. These hotel masseuses are mostly 35+ or 40+. Maybe they move to these chain hotel after they are too old and kicked out of sexy massage places. What I have tried is a handjob from these masseuses. I have never asked for sex so I am not sure if they offer it.

First time I in 2017 when I was in Bali, I had to re-route my return flight via Surabaya as there was a volcano eruption and flights were being cancelled from DPS. I was staying at Ibis Surabaya Airport Hotel. They did not have a in-room massage and said it is a separate place. When I visited their spa, it was a surprise. It was a normal guest room which they use solely for spa purpose. I was shy and did not initiate any talks but she asked if I want a "Special Service" for 2 mill. I was asking for 600 K but later negotiated it down to 800 k (Don't get angry. I know it is too high for a HJ. I was too young and did not know the local prices). I initially rejected the offer thinking it was 800 K+400 K spa fee. Later she was mourning that out of 800 K offer she gave, 400 k goes to hotel for the massage. That is when I knew it was including massage fee. Anyways it was a basic experience and I had less knowledge in mongering and more excited which led to lots of mistakes.

With respect to Jakarta, I have been twice so far. First time I stayed in Ibis Styles (Tanah Abang. Dec 2022) and the second time it was Holiday Inn (Gajah Madah. Mar 2024). Both hotels had this in-room massage option. Being an extreme introvert (sorry for my personal sob story), I was shy to ask the masseuse at Ibis but she initiated the talks when I turned around during the massage. The prices are always including the massage cost. At ibis, she undressed her top and gave me top access, BBBJ and HJ. She used some random jasmine oil.

Fast forward a year later (2024 March) I visited Jakarta for a short 3 day trip. This time I stayed at Holiday Inn and I was well prepared to ask straight away.

Day 1, when the masseuse arrived at the door I had my requirement written and translated on google translate. As soon as she entered, I confirmed her if she does extra service. My plan is not to proceed explaining or showing translation if they don't understand "extra service" in any country but so far it has never failed in any of the in-room massages because mostly they understand this word. She said yes, and I immediately showed her my translation of what I want on the app. They always quote 2 mil to start with. This time I had my negotiation arguments ready as I was following this forum before my second trip. I countered her offer saying Classic and Travel do everything including sex for 350 k-400 k. So I am not doing anything more than 400 k. She countered back saying 500 k (this is again including the 90 minute hotel spa fee). Deal accepted and I was excited as it was my first day of my trip. Fully naked, showered, hugged, kissed a lot, gave nice BBBJ and then a handjob to finish. There was time still left, so she did a basic massage using hands (no oil) while being naked. Job done. Tipped her extra 50 k as I liked it. Nice experience as I like such women with a comfort of my own room.

Day 3 of the same trip, I requested for another in-room service. Same process. This time there was some drama by the masseuse with negotiations starting with 2 mil which I rejected. So she started with massage first and almost 15 minutes later she kept asking for 1 mil. I repeated the same classic, travel - 350 k story to her and she was arguing back saying that is different and this is different. I did not care. I also told her that 2 days back even at Holiday Inn I did it for 400 k (I did for 500 K but I lied, haha) and later she was OK to do it at 500 k (again including 90 minute hotel spa fee). She was a drama queen. She did what I wanted but I did not like the negotiations and drama. Also, she did not allow me to kiss as good as the previous lady. So no tip. So in both cases at Holiday Inn, it was fully naked, BBBJ, HJ.

The experience is a hit and miss and depends on the girl but basic needs are sorted. I also collected numbers from both these ladies at Holiday Inn. When I texted the Day 1 lady (as I liked her experience a lot than the Day 3) if she was available to visit outside her work hours, she said she will be interested to visit but not while I was at Holiday Inn. My trip was a short one and I did not stay outside of Holiday Inn. So it was not possible for me. Next time I am planning to book mercure or some other hotel for one or two nights to try and invite her all included for a night. Lets see if it works.

I understand that there is an option to get a full on sex experience in Classic, Travel, Emporium but maybe there are someone like me who will find this useful as I prefer comfort of in-room options. Also, I am yet to visit Classic, Travel. I really want to visit but the experiences I read about these places make me feel that it will be overwhelming for me with mamasans forcing to pick their girl. Maybe I will get some courage to visit these places in my next trip soon.

[LoveItHere69]

If you go to a high end spa you expect a real professional massage for everyone that walks through the door. The same good service for a high end brothel. The same for a high end restaurant you expect plates and metal utensils and not styro foam plates and plastic utensils. But SuperLove and BKKguru you believe TempStories bad service is because he was a newbie? Unreal.

She seems like she gives bad service to most guys except the few she likes. Kind of like the "quiet quitting" working scenario. I had a girl a few days ago who did not want me to unzip her dress (red flag). She undressed in the shower (red flag). Came out with the towel on and her bra still on (red flag). Pulled her bra down like I was supposed to suck on them with her bra on (final straw). I got dressed quickly and ran downstairs to talk to the mamasan. They gave me a new girl with no additional payment. I have had 30 girls by this time so I know what I am doing. So my question for SuperLove and BKKguru. If I was a newbie this would be ok and be my fault?

Talking to the mamasan is mostly a useless endeavor with only a 20% success rate. They are always pushing girls with few customers or who need money and I do not want. I make motions of slim with big boobs like I am playing charades. You would have to be retarded to not be able to understand. No language or customs understanding required. When I reject the girl they send me they always say "good service, good service".

[Member #3088]

In recent times, this is the first reported negative experience in Emporium.
If I paid 1.45 Juta, I would be pissed too.

You selected this girl on your own without consulting Mamasan. Is this correct? When you complained to Mamasan, what was her reaction?

The language barrier is a HUGE issue in Indonesia. For some reason, it does not get much coverage in this forum. Without Google Translator, I would not even bother visiting Indonesia.
Conversely, if you can speak Indonesian, you will be in the drivers seat.

Jakarta is NOT Bangkok. Not everyone will like Jakarta. This has been posted here multiple times.
Jakarta, as a city, is classic 3rd world: broken sidewalks, open sewers and perennial traffic jams. For those who love to walk, Jakarta is not for you.

~BKKMr. BKK is correct. I'm a long-time resident and typically use tinder to identify girls to come to me. Let them deal with the traffic. Always VC beforehand and am clear about expectations (my Indonesian is good). Nonetheless, I still get a dud now and again, but my success rate is still well over 90%. I would not want to be a new visitor trying to negotiate the traffic in this megacity on my own. Bangkok is much easier to deal with even if you don't know much Thai.

[SuperLove]

This is how Jakarta is different or at least emporium. The Mamasan knows you are paying good money and would want good service so if you ask them in advance it always helps and they will go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied. I said not all girls will provide all services. Some are happy to provide BBFS and some don't, those who don't may offer anal. It's upto you what you want, don't be an expert I say just check with mama before you select and take her to room. Trust me Jakarta is different to thailand and mongers need to realise this. Don't let ego come in your way. Cheers.


He paid 1. 45 he should have got top service. I don't see how consulting mama or papasan before picking would make any difference in this instance. The girls remain seated if they don't want to go with you.

He should have got a Decent service.

[Vendelo]

This is how Jakarta is different or at least emporium. The Mamasan knows you are paying good money and would want good service so if you ask them in advance it always helps and they will go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied. I said not all girls will provide all services. Some are happy to provide BBFS and some don't, those who don't may offer anal. It's upto you what you want, don't be an expert I say just check with mama before you select and take her to room. Trust me Jakarta is different to thailand and mongers need to realise this. Don't let ego come in your way. Cheers.I will be visiting Jakarta soon. I've mongered all over. I presume anal is rare in Jakarta. Am I correct? Also, if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?

[Zippos]

If I may add few bullet points SuperLove.

1. Whatever the hunting and punting experience one has, should not be compared to Jakarta. Of course utilize that experience but what's the point of comparing to Apple with Orange. Won't be the same. Treat Jakarta like it likes to be treated.

2. Jakarta is unique its own way, we are not their major source of bread and butter, unlike Thailand Cambodia Laos Vietnam, Jakarta scene is dominated by locals. We only chip in a small percentage.

3. Most importantly, like SuperLove said, clarify your desire with Mami / Handler, specially if it's an High End place like Emporium KC Malio. People seem to overlook this part while reading reports.

4. Another key factor is timing. Thursday Friday Saturday some cases Sunday tends to be more full house compared to the rest of the week. Not saying any of these places are closed during weekdays but less quantity leading to decline in quality but then could be the opposite due to desperation of money.

5 lastly, there will always be a starfish whom you may get stuck with, that can happen in anywhere. Factor this in before shelling out cash.


This is how Jakarta is different or at least emporium. The Mamasan knows you are paying good money and would want good service so if you ask them in advance it always helps and they will go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied. I said not all girls will provide all services. Some are happy to provide BBFS and some don't, those who don't may offer anal. It's upto you what you want, don't be an expert I say just check with mama before you select and take her to room. Trust me Jakarta is different to thailand and mongers need to realise this. Don't let ego come in your way. Cheers.

[Delbo1]

This is how Jakarta is different or at least emporium. The Mamasan knows you are paying good money and would want good service so if you ask them in advance it always helps and they will go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied. I said not all girls will provide all services. Some are happy to provide BBFS and some don't, those who don't may offer anal. It's upto you what you want, don't be an expert I say just check with mama before you select and take her to room. Trust me Jakarta is different to thailand and mongers need to realise this. Don't let ego come in your way. Cheers.Not at all don't get me wrong I don't have ego I accept when I'm wrong, I'm trying to help it didn't make sense to ask the papasan, I'm definitely not an expert and always keen to learn.

I see your point now about asking what girl he would recommend. I wasn't aware you could ask the papasan which ones do anal, without condom etc I thought that was frowned upon.
I think you got me mixed up with replying to superlove69 post.

[Delbo1]

Honestly, my experience's at this place have been one of my best ones in my mongering journey. I was crystal clear cut and specific with my requirements openly stated to Mamasan what I was looking for and my message was conveyed to the chick in her native language. She delivered and made it a memorable and fulfilling experience. I do not know why you did not convey your needs to the Mamasan before finalizing the chick. I am damn sure if you would have, certainly it would not have happened what happened. I am truly amazed to see your FR of negative experience.

Regards.Forgive me for asking but what are your requirements when you talk to the mamasa? Do you ask for bare, anal etc? I was under the impression you can't ask for that as it's not allowed.

[Delbo1]

This is how Jakarta is different or at least emporium. The Mamasan knows you are paying good money and would want good service so if you ask them in advance it always helps and they will go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied. I said not all girls will provide all services. Some are happy to provide BBFS and some don't, those who don't may offer anal. It's upto you what you want, don't be an expert I say just check with mama before you select and take her to room. Trust me Jakarta is different to thailand and mongers need to realise this. Don't let ego come in your way. Cheers.I think you got me mixed up with loveithere69.

[DevSagar]

My first and foremost requirement is DFK; in fact, that's a need for me because without it I simply cannot perform. I have rejected many beautiful chicks including models during my travels, SA chicks and a lot of spa girls where I reside. My belief is that DFK is a first stage of intimacy. DFK, BJ without condom; I never do bareback as I am scared and never will. No anal as well as I am not a big fan of it. I convey this where ever and whomsoever I fuck. Basically, without DFK, it is not a GFE experience.

Regards.


Forgive me for asking but what are your requirements when you talk to the mamasa? Do you ask for bare, anal etc? I was under the impression you can't ask for that as it's not allowed.

[DevSagar]

Sorry mate, I replied to you already but forgot one line to add. I also convey to the mamasan that I do not need a petite, small, tiny or a slim girl, I like reasonably figured girls, big boobs and I was not disappointed with what was recommended to me. Post the recommendation, the girl was brought over to me, message conveyed to her and I did see the chicks nodding her head and off we went. So, no reason to drop her when I saw her saying yes to my desires and physically seeing her in front of me. How I wish Delhi had a better connectivity with Jakarta, Damn.


Forgive me for asking but what are your requirements when you talk to the mamasa? Do you ask for bare, anal etc? I was under the impression you can't ask for that as it's not allowed.

[Banana Boi]

if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?I certainly hope not.

[BKKguru]

I will be visiting Jakarta soon. I've mongered all over. I presume anal is rare in Jakarta. Am I correct? Also, if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?Yes, it is very rare. 90% of the girls in Jakarta will decline Anal.
They will not even allow you to touch the Anus.

Note: This is a general statement based on my own experience.

~BKK

[BKKguru]

If you go to a high end spa you expect a real professional massage for everyone that walks through the door. The same good service for a high end brothel. The same for a high end restaurant you expect plates and metal utensils and not styro foam plates and plastic utensils. But SuperLove and BKKguru you believe TempStories bad service is because he was a newbie? Unreal.

I will give you an analogy. Upscale Restaurants add a mandatory Tip of 18 or 20% to your bill.
As a Customer you expect A+ or excellent service. But many times, you do not get the service you expected or deserved.

Same with this high-end Spa. You are paying Top Dollar. However, there is NO guarantee you will get the best service. This can happen anywhere including Thailand, Phillipines, Venezuela, Peru and Colombia. By the way, I have been to ALL of these countries. But I digress.

You also missed the point in my last post. He used his instincts to select the girl and this is always hit or miss. If he would have consulted David (Papasan), it would have been a different outcome.

~BKK

[MichaelGrandus]

Hey community!

Sitting now on my balcony on the 20th floor, enjoying the amazing view of the sunrise over Jakarta with a cup of coffee, I realized that I am living not only the best years of my life but also a life that millions of men around the world cannot afford for one reason or another and can only dream about. For me, it is also not 100% possible to devote a lot of time to our hobby, so I really appreciate those short periods when I have the complete freedom to do what I want. This usually happens when my family and I are apart for a couple of months each year. The rest of the time, when we are together, the hobby is less accessible, but let's say, still doable in a "soft," safer mode. However, many men, even with such desires and freedom, don't pursue it due to moral principles or because they are too indecisive to take the first step toward trying our hobby. Thus, they miss out on a vast world of pleasure, freedom, and joy, with a relatively small community of participants in which we have chosen to be a part.

These thoughts visited me over a morning cup of coffee at the end of my trip to Jakarta, and I realized that I need to become a more active member of the community and share my experience too. In Southeast Asia, this is already the fourth country where I practice this hobby, and it comes close to first place in my ranking, primarily in terms of the quality of the girls, and second in terms of the price / quality ratio.

I flew here from Bangkok two weeks ago, having read on the forum about the huge selection of available women in Classic and Travel hotels.

Week 1:

I decided to start with the Classic Hotel since it was the first one I read about on the forum about Jakarta. The first time it was a bit uncomfortable going there, expecting that many mamasans would not let you look around calmly and choose your "pearl. " Having arrived on a Grab bike for 10 k (less than 1 dollar, hehe, for a trip of 3 km) at 6 pm on Sunday, I asked the security how to get into the club, and they immediately directed me to the 2nd floor, where loud music was coming from. Before entering the hall, they gave you a bracelet at the counter. There were about 7 mothers standing right outside the door, who, yes, attacked, but after a polite "thank you," I stepped aside and none grabbed my hands, as they wrote on the forum. Only one mamasan followed me, pointed to a table to sit at, and sat near me. I ordered a cola to spend some time and exchanged a few words with her. Then she asked - "Want a girl?" - I said, give me 10 minutes to decide. After that, she continued to sit with me, but I was not against it.

There were about 5-10 tables occupied in the hall, most of which were occupied by groups of locals, smoking like locomotives. Behind the rest sat lonely tramps. I expected to see them in the company of ladies, but no, everyone was sitting alone. Around the perimeter of the hall, there were sofas on which girls were clustered; I think there were more than 120 of them in all. Of course, I was shocked by the number, for the first time I saw such a number of women in evening dresses, each of which could end up on my arm in 5 minutes. Although most of them were not my type. I like thin, tall, and small-breasted girls, this atmosphere wildly excited me, and I decided not to linger here any longer and get to action.

I told his mamasan what I cherished, "show me your girls. " It was a little funny when she took out a laser and started shining it at the opposite end of the hall, at the sofa on which about 15 girls were sitting, who immediately perked up, came up and lined up in a line. Of the entire line, there were about 5 that were quite to my taste, and 2 real gems that more than met my criteria, one of which I chose as she seemed more welcoming. I gave mamasan 400 k rupees, and welcomed a girl who, as it turned out, did not speak a word of English, but this was not a problem for me.

She took me by the hand and led me across the hall to the stairs. Funny fact, walking through the hall with a bunch of girls, I had the feeling that I was walking with freshly caught prey hehe, and everyone seemed to envy me, although in fact, everyone was looking and envying her that she had a client, and the rest continued to be bored on the sofas. Going downstairs, the staff showed the room, and then extended their hand and said, "tip" This puzzled me a little and upset me, but I gave the 10 k that were in my pocket, it was clear that they were unhappy, but I didn't care.

I want to describe this time in detail so that you understand all the emotions that I felt in the room. I closed the door, the girl took off her shoes, sat down on the bed and that was it. This, guys, is where all the magic ends. For the next 40 minutes, she did not show any initiative at all, did not make any movements on her part. Okay, I thought, I think she's just started and is shy, reminded me of my first girl in school. Despite the fact that she did not react in any way to my hugs and caresses, she was wearing a very sexy dress, and to my taste, which turned me on very much. Slowly undressing her, I love to undress the girl myself, play with her body in her underwear and then slowly take it off. I gestured to her towards the shower, she shook her head. I didn't go either, since I washed myself in the room half an hour ago.

After that, I put her on the bed, spread her legs and caressed her for 10 minutes. All this time she didn't even touch me. I was still in shorts, I put her hand on my penis, which was noticeably protruding, in the hope that she would understand that she needed to start caressing me, take off my shorts, etc. But no, she just left her hand there, without any movement. I even began to think that she was some kind of weak-minded or something like that. If she were not so beautiful, I would immediately turn around and go for another one, but I just couldn't leave her pussy, which looked like just a strip on the body, without the slightest hint of protruding labia.

So, I took the phone and wrote in the translator, saying, let's do something, otherwise, you will be left without a tip at all. In response, she wrote "condom?" I nodded my head affirmatively, the first time I saw a working girl ask such questions herself. She gave me a condom, which I had to put on myself (the first time in my career myself). At this time, she lubricated herself and lay on her back with her legs spread. Okay, let's get started. She was very tight inside, which couldn't help but please me, and I could barely restrain myself from cumming after a week of abstinence. I thought that since she was so passive and asked about the condom, it would be possible to negotiate with her and dump my week's supply into her mouth, which I really love. I took out and motioned for her to go doggy style, she obeyed. I started fucking her, and she didn't move at all, although this position is very suitable for two people to move. Well, ok, I thought, I'll enjoy it this way.

And so, admiring her ass, the most epic of all fucked up began. A persistent, strong smell began to reach me, and it was not the smell of her pussy, which I had completely examined before, but the smell of working girl shit. I spread her buns and saw that everything was fucking brown there. And she * should have understood this before and refused to take a shower before the act! In general, it's hard to express my emotions in words, but I still decided to finish quickly, which took 15 seconds for me (I'm good at controlling this process after taking half of the pill of the Super Kamagra bought in BKK). Without saying a word, I went into the shower, quickly got dressed, and left, leaving her there alone. Went out into the hall, walked around it in search of my mamasan to scold her for the whole situation, but did not see her there. After sitting at the table for 10 minutes, I still didn't see her. I went to the cashier, paid about 30 k for entry and a coke, and left.

The first impression of Jakarta was a complete failure. After all this, I was depressed all week, I didn't want to go to such places anymore and was haunted by the thought that the best sex is sex with wife.

So, after losing a week of freedom, I decided to go to Emporium, which became one of the best experiences of my career, and made me go there every fucking day, during my second week in Jakarta.

To be continued.

[SuperLove]

Honestly I can't say if its rare or not. I can say I got it at classic & emporium. And monger friend, it was just analogy. I mean there may be some girls out there who are more comfortable and prefer anal to BBFS. Mind you I know a fair no of girls in middle east who will go anal and would prefer to keep their pussies covered for marriage. Better to PM me, cheers.


I will be visiting Jakarta soon. I've mongered all over. I presume anal is rare in Jakarta. Am I correct? Also, if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?

[SuperLove]

Bro, don't go around asking mama / mami as to who gives anal or BBFS, not on and you might just upset them. Alternatively, just ask who is more 'open minded', for example I told my guy I want a top girl with a great attitude and service levels must be a sure shot 9. And I leave it to him (in this case) to choose for me. So if she doesn't perform I can come back to him and complain. I remember, only that one time I selected and he just smiled back and let me be. Her attitude and performance was just ordinary in room and when I came back and told him, his reply 'what can I do mr you selected her, I knew she is not your type'. Conclusion, for me. At high end places leave it with mamis.


Not at all don't get me wrong I don't have ego I accept when I'm wrong, I'm trying to help it didn't make sense to ask the papasan, I'm definitely not an expert and always keen to learn.

I see your point now about asking what girl he would recommend. I wasn't aware you could ask the papasan which ones do anal, without condom etc I thought that was frowned upon.
I think you got me mixed up with replying to superlove69 post.

[Vendelo]

Yes, it is very rare. 90% of the girls in Jakarta will decline Anal.
They will not even allow you to touch the Anus.

Note: This is a general statement based on my own experience.

~BKKJapanese girls are similarThey don't even like rimming.

[Vendelo]

Sorry mate, I replied to you already but forgot one line to add. I also convey to the mamasan that I do not need a petite, small, tiny or a slim girl, I like reasonably figured girls, big boobs and I was not disappointed with what was recommended to me. Post the recommendation, the girl was brought over to me, message conveyed to her and I did see the chicks nodding her head and off we went. So, no reason to drop her when I saw her saying yes to my desires and physically seeing her in front of me. How I wish Delhi had a better connectivity with Jakarta, Damn.How did you communicate with the mamasan and girl? Via google translate on your phone? And how did you say / write "DFK"?

[Thommy84]

Reading through the last pages it seems that Emporium is getting some good traction these days.

I was wondering why the Spa scene in general seems to be a bit under the radar on this forum, since in principle there are plenty of options from low end (where "spa" / "massage" may be an overstatement) to medium and upscale locations which usually offer a wide range of services / packages with some spas specialising in specific service offerings (e. G. Double Bjs, CIM / BJ only, "Fire and Ice", "honey", .).

Often there is a low entry fee to the facilities (if the location offers them), maybe around IDR 200 k which would be waived if you proceed with a massage package. Those depend on location, but often again there are base packages (which usually include a handjob to finish) and most locations would also have some kind of "all in" package which would then include BJ and sex. Instead of the all in package it can also be negotiated directly with the lady instead which may save you a few bucks, but I usually don't bother. If my memory servces me well, then last year the all in package at the place I was ended up something like 800-850 k for 60-90 min in the room.

Having left Jakarta a decade ago, I am not that close to the current scene, but as far as I know there are still plenty of options around (which to be fair should all be similar to what you get also in Classic Spa etc.).

I know that information is fairly generic and may not be extremely helpful, but was just surprised to see (at least it feels like it) so little communication around that part of the market.

Best regards.

[Granite St8]

I was wondering why the Spa scene in general seems to be a bit under the radar on this forum I agree that the spa scene in the past year plus has not been reported on much. My first few visits to Jakarta I had to go the south and hit up a few spas out of convenience. Good experiences and around the price point you mention. The biggest drawback is that the five spots I have been to, the girls are chosen via photo on a device. Compare that to the many bars and clubs with a choice of between a dozens to well over a hundred girls right in front of you. So yeah, massage reports do seem vanilla to the other flavors Jakarta offers. Maybe if I lived there I would visit the spas but do not want to waste a punt by choosing a girl on a phone during the short time I am there.

[Attila The Hun]

I spend 4 months in Bali and 2 months in Jakarta.

I went to Kota Indah, Classic and often tried my luck on MiChat.

By far, Jakarta is the best spot for mongering I've been to.

Kota Indah is a bit dirty, I went to Royal quite often at the beginning, but the girls were not that good and the management is terrible as well.

I read about Classic here and for a good month I went there almost every day, to the extent that I even took the cutest mamasan back home (who turned out to be married. Outch!

I like the quantity of girls and among the 100 or 120 girls, there is always a handful of girls that I really like. Sometimes you have to wait until they come back from their previous booking. I would recommend to go around 5 or 6 pm, later than that is going to become more uncomfortable: more smoke, louder & shittier music, as well as fewer girls.

I always paid 365 k for the girl, 5 k for the club. And if the girl did a good service I always gave a tip as well. Overall, best experience I've had in Jakarta!

[Charlies4]

This is just a Thank you note for the all the mongerers who posted reviews and comments for Jakarta. Just had a visit.

I am completely sold on how everything is setup at Hotel Classic. 19 y old muslim chicks + a nice room with full size mirrors / shower for just 365 k IDR! This is the Best Value for Money Mongering destination hands down.

Will return and also explore other clubs discussed here.

[Delbo1]

Bro, don't go around asking mama / mami as to who gives anal or BBFS, not on and you might just upset them. Alternatively, just ask who is more 'open minded', for example I told my guy I want a top girl with a great attitude and service levels must be a sure shot 9. And I leave it to him (in this case) to choose for me. So if she doesn't perform I can come back to him and complain. I remember, only that one time I selected and he just smiled back and let me be. Her attitude and performance was just ordinary in room and when I came back and told him, his reply 'what can I do mr you selected her, I knew she is not your type'. Conclusion, for me. At high end places leave it with mamis.Understood thanks for the tip in future I will also ask the mamasan for heat service girl.

[DevSagar]

The mamasan knew English. I use the exact word - "TONGUE TO TONGUE KISSING" because a lot of chicks and their agents do not understand the full meaning of DFK. Some educated girls know deep French kissing but not these uneducated ones. But, still I do not take a chance and clarify in advance. In Jakarta, I wrote my message to Mamasan both in English and native language through google translate. I did not have to communicate with the girl as my message was clearly rubbed into her brain by mamasan though the girl knew a bit of English but not much; they do not hide this handicap.

This is my modus operandi wherever I travel outside my country. I even have a pic downloaded of a couple doing DFK with both their tongues locked up and send that pic across to independent chicks before meeting them of course after a bit of conversation on chat and they understand the message post my clarification. I do not take a risk regarding this service because without it I make a sorry sad face. Can compromise on everything but not this.

Hope it helps.


How did you communicate with the mamasan and girl? Via google translate on your phone? And how did you say / write "DFK"?

[Zippos]

Here is a fun fact, sometimes Dr Google alter the English word meaning to Bahasha Indonesia yielding in funny and confusing meanings. For example, I google big boobs and it's translated to payudara besar. I kid you not, every single mama I said that word, they burst out laughing. To this date, I don't understand the irony of it. I ended up messaging my local friend and after much laughter, he said the right term of describing big boobs is pabrik susu which literally translates to milk factory. Another word of big boobs is susu segar which translates to fresh milk.

Now, try that literal word in English in Western countries, best you are getting is a jug / jar / bottle of milk from the fridge.


The mamasan knew English. I use the exact word - "TONGUE TO TONGUE KISSING" because a lot of chicks and their agents do not understand the full meaning of DFK. Some educated girls know deep French kissing but not these uneducated ones. But, still I do not take a chance and clarify in advance. In Jakarta, I wrote my message to Mamasan both in English and native language through google translate. I did not have to communicate with the girl as my message was clearly rubbed into her brain by mamasan though the girl knew a bit of English but not much; they do not hide this handicap.

This is my modus operandi wherever I travel outside my country. I even have a pic downloaded of a couple doing DFK with both their tongues locked up and send that pic across to independent chicks before meeting them of course after a bit of conversation on chat and they understand the message post my clarification. I do not take a risk regarding this service because without it I make a sorry sad face. Can compromise on everything but not this..

[Vendelo]

The mamasan knew English. I use the exact word - "TONGUE TO TONGUE KISSING" because a lot of chicks and their agents do not understand the full meaning of DFK. Some educated girls know deep French kissing but not these uneducated ones. But, still I do not take a chance and clarify in advance. In Jakarta, I wrote my message to Mamasan both in English and native language through google translate. I did not have to communicate with the girl as my message was clearly rubbed into her brain by mamasan though the girl knew a bit of English but not much; they do not hide this handicap.

This is my modus operandi wherever I travel outside my country. I even have a pic downloaded of a couple doing DFK with both their tongues locked up and send that pic across to independent chicks before meeting them of course after a bit of conversation on chat and they understand the message post my clarification. I do not take a risk regarding this service because without it I make a sorry sad face. Can compromise on everything but not this.

Hope it helps.Helps a LOT. Thanks for taking the time to write.

[MrMiyaG]

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I read about Classic here and for a good month I went there almost every day, to the extent that I even took the cutest mamasan back home (who turned out to be married. Outch!Haha I wonder which one. I was also kinda play flirting with one Mama named Jeny she gave me her WhatsApp. She told me yeah you like slim, petite girls I said yes like you (she is also petite with glasses) I told her jokingly come to my room, then she replied what hotel and what time you want me. I didn't reply back because I was joking but I think the possibility was there if I wantend to.

Some Mamas are a real pain in the ass, but I have bonded with a few in classic and when they see me they know what I like and call their best girl to meet me.

[MrMiyaG]

This is just a Thank you note for the all the mongerers who posted reviews and comments for Jakarta. Just had a visit.

I am completely sold on how everything is setup at Hotel Classic. 19 y old muslim chicks + a nice room with full size mirrors / shower for just 365 k IDR! This is the Best Value for Money Mongering destination hands down.

Will return and also explore other clubs discussed here.Totally agree with you on this. I'm also thankful to ISG members because without this forum I wouldn't be able to enjoy Jakarta the way I did, it's not like Thailand where everything is out in the open. I hope it won't become a popular mongering destination and be ruined by mass tourist (I doubt that will happen, but let's enjoy while we can).

I just returned home and I'm planning my next trip to Jakarta again LOL.

[SuperLove]

Bro, I don't agree. Most girls I was with allowed me to touch caress and lick this 'no entry' zone, LOL. And in some bold cases I did finger or fuck them. Just treat them well, with love respect.


Yes, it is very rare. 90% of the girls in Jakarta will decline Anal.
They will not even allow you to touch the Anus.

Note: This is a general statement based on my own experience.

~BKK

[SuperLove]

Agree zippos completely, I just feel Jakarta is a special mongering destination and needs to be explored continuously and more regularly. Poor flight connections (as compared to Thailand) and weak infrastructure allows thousands of tourists to give it a miss, which is where us mongers pitch it. I am glad we are not their main source of bread & butter otherwise it becomes too commercial, look Thailand is a prime example, its gone southwards for me. One will experience a reluctant & passive girl in bed but the idea is to avoid it as much as possible. An experienced punter will always have less of it if his guard is up, that was my whole point.


If I may add few bullet points SuperLove.

1. Whatever the hunting and punting experience one has, should not be compared to Jakarta. Of course utilize that experience but what's the point of comparing to Apple with Orange. Won't be the same. Treat Jakarta like it likes to be treated.

2. Jakarta is unique its own way, we are not their major source of bread and butter, unlike Thailand Cambodia Laos Vietnam, Jakarta scene is dominated by locals. We only chip in a small percentage.

3. Most importantly, like SuperLove said, clarify your desire with Mami / Handler, specially if it's an High End place like Emporium KC Malio. People seem to overlook this part while reading reports.

4. Another key factor is timing. Thursday Friday Saturday some cases Sunday tends to be more full house compared to the rest of the week. Not saying any of these places are closed during weekdays but less quantity leading to decline in quality but then could be the opposite due to desperation of money.

5 lastly, there will always be a starfish whom you may get stuck with, that can happen in anywhere. Factor this in before shelling out cash.

[Pk099]

Thanks for great report. Heading to Jakarta tonight, looks like Classic may be hit or miss and hygiene quality of girls is not great.

I will be trying Emporium and other spas. I will try Classic just for sake of experience but with very low expectations.

Where is the best place to convert USD to IDR?


Hey community!

Sitting now on my balcony on the 20th floor, ...

[MrMiyaG]

Hey community!

I want to describe this time in detail so that you understand all the emotions that I felt in the room. I closed the door, the girl took off her shoes, sat down on the bed and that was it. This, guys, is where all the magic ends. For the next 40 minutes, she did not show any initiative at all, did not make any movements on her part. Okay, I thought, I think she's just started and is shy, reminded me of my first girl in school. Despite the fact that she did not react in any way to my hugs and caresses, she was wearing a very sexy dress, and to my taste, which turned me on very much. Slowly undressing her, I love to undress the girl myself, play with her body in her underwear and then slowly take it off. I gestured to her towards the shower, she shook her head. I didn't go either, since I washed myself in the room half an hour ago.

After that, I put her on the bed, spread her legs and caressed her for 10 minutes. All this time she didn't even touch me. I was still in shorts, I put her hand on my penis, which was noticeably protruding, in the hope that she would understand that she needed to start caressing me, take off my shorts, etc. But no, she just left her hand there, without any movement. I even began to think that she was some kind of weak-minded or something like that. If she were not so beautiful, I would immediately turn around and go for another one, but I just couldn't leave her pussy, which looked like just a strip on the body, without the slightest hint of protruding labia.

So, I took the phone and wrote in the translator, saying, let's do something, otherwise, you will be left without a tip at all. In response, she wrote "condom?" I nodded my head affirmatively, the first time I saw a working girl ask such questions herself. She gave me a condom, which I had to put on myself (the first time in my career myself). At this time, she lubricated herself and lay on her back with her legs spread. Okay, let's get started. She was very tight inside, which couldn't help but please me, and I could barely restrain myself from cumming after a week of abstinence. I thought that since she was so passive and asked about the condom, it would be possible to negotiate with her and dump my week's supply into her mouth, which I really love. I took out and motioned for her to go doggy style, she obeyed. I started fucking her, and she didn't move at all, although this position is very suitable for two people to move. Well, ok, I thought, I'll enjoy it this way.

And so, admiring her ass, the most epic of all fucked up began. A persistent, strong smell began to reach me, and it was not the smell of her pussy, which I had completely examined before, but the smell of working girl shit. I spread her buns and saw that everything was fucking brown there. And she * should have understood this before and refused to take a shower before the act! In general, it's hard to express my emotions in words, but I still decided to finish quickly, which took 15 seconds for me (I'm good at controlling this process after taking half of the pill of the Super Kamagra bought in BKK). Without saying a word, I went into the shower, quickly got dressed, and left, leaving her there alone. Went out into the hall, walked around it in search of my mamasan to scold her for the whole situation, but did not see her there. After sitting at the table for 10 minutes, I still didn't see her. I went to the cashier, paid about 30 k for entry and a coke, and left.

The first impression of Jakarta was a complete failure. After all this, I was depressed all week, I didn't want to go to such places anymore and was haunted by the thought that the best sex is sex with wife.

So, after losing a week of freedom, I decided to go to Emporium, which became one of the best experiences of my career, and made me go there every fucking day, during my second week in Jakarta.

To be continued.Thanks for the report. That is just nasty but sometimes shit happens (literally). The frequent mongers we all have experienced a girl that isn't willing to do work or hygiene wise isn't there. It's all part of the game, I do feel sorry for you experiencing this on your first girl at classic. I've had my fare share of girls at classic and from all of them only one had a funky odor coming out of her vagina, but I only could smell it when doing doggy (not a shit smell). She noticed it also that I smelled something and then she replied with that it is the condom that has the smell. Yeah right "condom", I couldn't finish but I was already 40 min in the session and took my lost. The beauty of classic is if the girls good in the room, just pay for another girl it's only 365 k. But in your case I would have definitely waited and searched for mama and told her because that is just gross. I'm glad you did find something good in another place, but you really should give classic another try.

[Scarer]

Thanks for great report. Heading to Jakarta tonight, looks like Classic may be hit or miss and hygiene quality of girls is not great.

I will be trying Emporium and other spas. I will try Classic just for sake of experience but with very low expectations.

Where is the best place to convert USD to IDR?Use an ATM if you have a no foreign fee debit card. Be sure NOT to select the ATM bank's conversion option, as it offers a poor exchange rate. There's an ATM right outside the Holiday Inn Suites Gajah Mada. Most hotels also have ATMs nearby, often right at the hotel or just across the road. Don't forget to collect your card after the transaction. Once, with all the exchange rate calculations and handling large numbered IDR notes, I forgot to take my card back from the ATM. Fortunately, I had a backup card, but it was still a bad experience.

When I stayed at the Ibis Tanah Abang almost two years ago, I exchanged GBP cash at Chandraprima, which offered a good exchange rate. I found two options through a quick Google search, and Chandraprima was conveniently close to the Tanah Abang hotel. However, it's quite far from the usual Holiday Inn Suites Gajah Mada area, which this sub tends to prefer.

Just make sure to bring only clean and unfolded currency notes, as most money exchangers in Thailand and Indonesia prefer brand-new notes I have no idea why. Hope this helps.

[Pk099]

Thanks my friend, I will search for exchange close to my hotel. I do not have bank card, just taking credit cards, so may be I will have to pay lot of fees, so avoid it.


Use an ATM if you have a no foreign fee debit card. Be sure NOT to select the ATM bank's conversion option...Hope this helps.

[MrMiyaG]

Thanks my friend, I will search for exchange close to my hotel. I do not have bank card, just taking credit cards, so may be I will have to pay lot of fees, so avoid it.Keep in mind most ATM in Indonesia have a small withdrawal amount you can take per transaction. BCA was for me the best with max 2.500.000 IDR per transaction. The ATM that is in Holiday Inn hotel BNI max 1.250.000 IDR per transaction and CIMB the max was 3.000.000 IDR but I paid 75.000 IDR fee. If members have better alternatives place share.

[LoveItHere69]

Where is the best place to convert USD to IDR?First building to the left of Classic Hotel. Supposed open 7 am and closes 3 am. I have used many times. Example, if www.xe.com says the rate is 16,200 IDR to 1 USD, you will receive roughly 16,000. Pretty sure is better than the airport rate.

[Thommy84]

I agree that the spa scene in the past year plus has not been reported on much. My first few visits to Jakarta I had to go the south and hit up a few spas out of convenience. Good experiences and around the price point you mention. The biggest drawback is that the five spots I have been to, the girls are chosen via photo on a device. Compare that to the many bars and clubs with a choice of between a dozens to well over a hundred girls right in front of you. So yeah, massage reports do seem vanilla to the other flavours Jakarta offers. Maybe if I lived there I would visit the spas but do not want to waste a punt by choosing a girl on a phone during the short time I am there.You are right. The picture / number based selection can be a disadvantage. I have however done well (in line with the recent discussion here related to classic) to build a bit of rapport with the GROs of some locations (both in person and via telegram where the locations often have groups where pictures / attendance lists etc. Are shared. Having said that, I guess it supports your statement that the SPA scene may be most suitable for residents / regular visitors. I usually like to at least get 1-2 SPA visits in though even during short trips, since I like the combination of hot / cold pool, sauna etc. To relax and then being pampered with a nice massage and more. If I was still living in Jakarta it would most likely be at least a weekly visit.

[Vendelo]

Bro, I don't agree. Most girls I was with allowed me to touch caress and lick this 'no entry' zone, LOL. And in some bold cases I did finger or fuck them. Just treat them well, with love respect.You, my friend. Are a god to me!!

[Zippos]

Definitely an unfortunate event. Not saying I have never had a starfish at Classic but then how the girls will act in room can't be controlled by mami. Surely they can be motivated or simply put to a different purpose. Give it another try.

Classic is not comparable to Emporium in any degree but classic is classic. Sadly, I'm seeing more and more of this types of negative Add your list of desires and translate that to Bahasha Indonesia and make sure to add shower in the list. Clarify with Mami, if girl doesn't do as asked, you would change the girl. Truth to be told, change may not happen but it will emphasize your level of seriousness.

By the way, if you liked Emporium, you will like KC and 1001 Colosseum.

Enjoy Jakarta, don't let that shitty starfish leave a dent on your Jakarta memorable experience.


Hey community!

although this position is very suitable for two people to move. Well, ok, I thought, I'll enjoy it this way.

And so, admiring her ass, the most epic of all fucked up began. A persistent, strong smell began to reach me, and it was not the smell of her pussy, which I had completely examined before, but the smell of working girl shit. I spread her buns and saw that everything was fucking brown there. And she * should have understood this before and refused to take a shower before the act! In general, it's hard to express my emotions in words, but I still decided to finish quickly, which took 15 seconds for me (I'm good at controlling this process after taking half of the pill of the Super Kamagra bought in BKK). Without saying a word, I went into the shower, quickly got dressed, and left, leaving her there alone. Went out into the hall, walked around it in search of my mamasan to scold her for the whole situation, but did not see her there. After sitting at the table for 10 minutes, I still didn't see her. I went to the cashier, paid about 30 k for entry and a coke, and left.

The first impression of Jakarta was a complete failure. After all this, I was depressed all week, I didn't want to go to such places anymore and was haunted by the thought that the best sex is sex with wife.

So, after losing a week of freedom, I decided to go to Emporium, which became one of the best experiences of my career, and made me go there every fucking day, during my second week in Jakarta.

To be continued.

[Pk099]

Thanks I will check. Just landed in Jakarta and converted some in airport, got rate 15890 for USD.


First building to the left of Classic Hotel. Supposed open 7 am and closes 3 am. I have used many times. Example, if www.xe.com says the rate is 16,200 IDR to 1 USD, you will receive roughly 16,000. Pretty sure is better than the airport rate.

[Vendelo]

If I have a good time with an Emporium girl and she would like to go to my hotel for overnight, is she free to leave Emporium right away or is she committed to stay until a certain time?

[Menteng]

Keep in mind most ATM in Indonesia have a small withdrawal amount you can take per transaction. BCA was for me the best with max 2.500.000 IDR per transaction. The ATM that is in Holiday Inn hotel BNI max 1.250.000 IDR per transaction and CIMB the max was 3.000.000 IDR but I paid 75.000 IDR fee. If members have better alternatives place share.I may have posted it before, but my solution for those who visit Jakarta regularly is as follows. You need a friend with an account and debit / credit card at one of the bigger banks (BCA, CIMB etc). Let him / her put 1000 dollars worth of rupiahs in that bank. Use the card during your stay. At the end of your stay, do the maths. At least you will not have to pay fees at ATM's.

[Gabacho]

I may have posted it before, but my solution for those who visit Jakarta regularly is as follows. You need a friend with an account and debit / credit card at one of the bigger banks (BCA, CIMB etc). Let him / her put 1000 dollars worth of rupiahs in that bank. Use the card during your stay. At the end of your stay, do the maths. At least you will not have to pay fees at ATM's.Or you could just get an account with Charles Schwab or Fidelity Cash Management (which reimburse all foreign ATM fees) and use that card to withdraw IDR at ATMs in Jakarta.

[Xoxo999]

I am planning to stay at park hyatt Jakarta for 4 nights. Is it girl friendly.

[D Cups]

If I have a good time with an Emporium girl and she would like to go to my hotel for overnight, is she free to leave Emporium right away or is she committed to stay until a certain time?Mine had to work til 10 PM.

[Werqweq]

Hey community!


And so, admiring her ass, the most epic of all fucked up began. A persistent, strong smell began to reach me, and it was not the smell of her pussy, which I had completely examined before, but the smell of working girl shit. I spread her buns and saw that everything was fucking brown there. And she * should have understood this before and refused to take a shower before the act! In general, it's hard to express my emotions in words, but I still decided to finish quickly, which took 15 seconds for me (I'm good at controlling this process after taking half of the pill of the Super Kamagra bought in BKK). Without saying a word, I went into the shower, quickly got dressed, and left, leaving her there alone. Went out into the hall, walked around it in search of my mamasan to scold her for the whole situation, but did not see her there. After sitting at the table for 10 minutes, I still didn't see her. I went to the cashier, paid about 30 k for entry and a coke, and left.

The first impression of Jakarta was a complete failure. After all this, I was depressed all week, I didn't want to go to such places anymore and was haunted by the thought that the best sex is sex with wife.

So, after losing a week of freedom, I decided to go to Emporium, which became one of the best experiences of my career, and made me go there every fucking day, during my second week in Jakarta.

To be continued.Ugh, what a disaster. I've never been to Indonesia, but was was hoping personal hygiene was somewhat similar to Thailand (which is great, as we all here know).

I'm maybe on my way to Jakarta from Bangkok myself in a week or two (or Japan. It's either that or spend half a day to extend my Thailand entry stamp for another 30 days), so looking forward to your next report.

[Zippos]

This was just an odd and disastrous case. I'm yet to find one Indonesian girl who lacks in hygiene. It's pretty standard for them to shower or at least wash up entire body before getting involved into act and same rituals after the act. I hope no one else experience such nightmare.


Ugh, what a disaster. I've never been to Indonesia, but was was hoping personal hygiene was somewhat similar to Thailand (which is great, as we all here know).

I'm maybe on my way to Jakarta from Bangkok myself in a week or two (or Japan. It's either that or spend half a day to extend my Thailand entry stamp for another 30 days), so looking forward to your next report.

[SuperLove]

I banged a chick on her first day at work, she was unbelievably good and I finished with her around midnight and asked mamasan if I could take her till morning. He quoted some figure of 4 mn and I said, thanks but no thanks. So I don't think its a good idea to check with emporium. Better if you strike a deal with her privately for the next day.


If I have a good time with an Emporium girl and she would like to go to my hotel for overnight, is she free to leave Emporium right away or is she committed to stay until a certain time?

[Irish Mongrel]

I am planning to stay at park hyatt Jakarta for 4 nights. Is it girl friendly.I'm thinking I should copy Nuttin Serious's reply from the hotels board into this. And maybe embellish it with the new laws about sex outside marriage and the trouble you can get into, and then you might get really worried. Maybe if you actually did a bit of research and not just put a question like this up for your first post. A quick search of the forum will very quickly answer your question. And yes, I could answer it for you. But then as the old saying goes "give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, tell him there's a search function - well you know where I am going with this " Even Dr. Google will give you the answer.

[Vendelo]

I am planning to stay at park hyatt Jakarta for 4 nights. Is it girl friendly.This is your first post. You couldn't even take the time to do read this f'in forum?

Many of us have posted field reports. The worst user is the one with one post who doesn't RTFF, receives positive responses to his question (s), goes to Jakarta and NEVER returns the favor by posting a field report. Are you that user?

[OohxTasty10]

I'm going to Jakarta soon for vacation and I'm going to be there at least 3 full days. Is there a guide or list somewhere for what the best clubs or hotels are for mongers? When I read others' reviews, sometimes they use abbreviations or shorthand names for certain places and I can't make out what they are supposed to be.

Also, best place / way to pay for a threesome?

Much appreciated, thanks!

[SuperLove]

Did you take the mamasan from classic terminal (2 floor) or classic spa in basement. Mamasan in basement spa are young & super hot, to the extent I have told one that I wish to bang her at my pad couple of times. Both times she said no but was willing to share her no. Do you guys think fucking her was a real possibility, I wasn't willing to spend time on her on the trip but hell yeah she was super hot and way better than the girls sitting in the fishbowl.


I spend 4 months in Bali and 2 months in Jakarta.

I went to Kota Indah, Classic and often tried my luck on MiChat.

By far, Jakarta is the best spot for mongering I've been to.

Kota Indah is a bit dirty, I went to Royal quite often at the beginning, but the girls were not that good and the management is terrible as well.

I read about Classic here and for a good month I went there almost every day, to the extent that I even took the cutest mamasan back home (who turned out to be married. Outch!

I like the quantity of girls and among the 100 or 120 girls, there is always a handful of girls that I really like. Sometimes you have to wait until they come back from their previous booking. I would recommend to go around 5 or 6 pm, later than that is going to become more uncomfortable: more smoke, louder & shittier music, as well as fewer girls.

I always paid 365 k for the girl, 5 k for the club. And if the girl did a good service I always gave a tip as well. Overall, best experience I've had in Jakarta!

[Menteng]

Ugh, what a disaster. I've never been to Indonesia, but was was hoping personal hygiene was somewhat similar to Thailand (which is great, as we all here know).

I'm maybe on my way to Jakarta from Bangkok myself in a week or two (or Japan. It's either that or spend half a day to extend my Thailand entry stamp for another 30 days), so looking forward to your next report.I can not imagine, ever (!!) what has happened to MichaelGrandus. In every toilet in Indonesia, be it in a house or elsewhere, there will be bottle or other means with water to clean your butt. (I'm born-Indonesian, that's why I am sure) I think it was an accident that happened during the action.

[Gabacho]

I can not imagine, ever (!!) what has happened to MichaelGrandus. In every toilet in Indonesia, be it in a house or elsewhere, there will be bottle or other means with water to clean your butt. (I'm born-Indonesian, that's why I am sure) I think it was an accident that happened during the action.Is it really even a big deal what happened to him? I have had plenty of times where I am doing BBFS-anal on a girl and shit ends up all over my dick. One time in Tijuana at hotel paraiso, I left the sheets and pillow on a bed all covered in shit after an hour long anal session with the chica named dulce. The smell didn't bother me in the least, I kept on going until I finished and got my nut.

I'm sure if I was in the same situation as Mr Grandus, it wouldn't have bothered me at all, I probably would have tried to Butt-fuck her, using her shit as lube. And I for damn sure wouldn't be wearing a condom. I think the fact that she made him wear a condom is much more annoying than the shit smell.

At any rate I for damn sure wouldn't be depressed and stuck in my hotel room for a week of an only 2-week-long trip because of it, that is just dumb. We must have different standards, but the starfish performance and condom are the two biggest problems I see, not the shit smell.

-Gabacho Out.

[Kctt1]

Awesome experience. Jakarta is destination of my next trip.


Got back to apartment & had my lunch ordered from grab & at around 5 pm reached Emporium.

Met David at 1st floor entrance & headed to see the lineup. There were around 11 girls in the room 5 in 1.2 M & 6 in 1.4 M category. Selected a 1.2 M girl form the lot just because of her short appearance & larger than life smile.

That time I didn't knew this girl will rock my whole trip guys. Let's call her Miss be.

She took me to the pool with lots of kissing DFKs & of course boobs sucking, fingering all her holes & then after 30 minutes we proceeded towards room which was spacious & clean. We both got cleaned up with each other's lips locked together & after that jumped on the bed, she started kissing me all over & I enjoyed pressing & fingering her with all these long DFKs.

[Gabacho]

I spend 4 months in Bali and 2 months in Jakarta.

I went to Kota Indah, Classic and often tried my luck on MiChat.

By far, Jakarta is the best spot for mongering I've been to.

Kota Indah is a bit dirty, I went to Royal quite often at the beginning, but the girls were not that good and the management is terrible as well.

I read about Classic here and for a good month I went there almost every day, to the extent that I even took the cutest mamasan back home (who turned out to be married. Outch!

I like the quantity of girls and among the 100 or 120 girls, there is always a handful of girls that I really like. Sometimes you have to wait until they come back from their previous booking. I would recommend to go around 5 or 6 pm, later than that is going to become more uncomfortable: more smoke, louder & shittier music, as well as fewer girls.Excellent report. I plan to be there soon. I'm excited to check out Classic (terminal). Everyday for a month straight? Who are some of the girls there that you would recommend?

[Werqweq]

Is it really even a big deal what happened to him? I have had plenty of times where I am doing BBFS-anal on a girl and shit ends up all over my dick. One time in Tijuana at hotel paraiso, I left the sheets and pillow on a bed all covered in shit after an hour long anal session with the chica named dulce. The smell didn't bother me in the least, I kept on going until I finished and got my nut.

I'm sure if I was in the same situation as Mr Grandus, it wouldn't have bothered me at all, I probably would have tried to Butt-fuck her, using her shit as lube. And I for damn sure wouldn't be wearing a condom. I think the fact that she made him wear a condom is much more annoying than the shit smell.

At any rate I for damn sure wouldn't be depressed and stuck in my hotel room for a week of an only 2-week-long trip because of it, that is just dumb. We must have different standards, but the starfish performance and condom are the two biggest problems I see, not the shit smell.

-Gabacho Out.When doing anal, getting feces on your dick is part of the risk you take, and it does not happen too often fortunately.

Nobody expects to be knocked out by the smell of shit while fucking a girl's pussy, look down, and see what appears to be strong signs the girl is not even toilet-trained, or indeed has some retardation.

We all have our own fetishes, and I'm not one to look down on yours, but that's just a scat-type fetish of yours, obviously not shared by the OP.

[Werqweq]

I can not imagine, ever (!!) what has happened to MichaelGrandus. In every toilet in Indonesia, be it in a house or elsewhere, there will be bottle or other means with water to clean your butt. (I'm born-Indonesian, that's why I am sure) I think it was an accident that happened during the action.That she shat herself while being fucked, and did not notice? Come on, man. Relieved to hear it's unusual enough for you to be so surprised too, however.

[Xoxo999]

I'm going to Jakarta soon for vacation and I'm going to be there at least 3 full days. Is there a guide or list somewhere for what the best clubs or hotels are for mongers? When I read others' reviews, sometimes they use abbreviations or shorthand names for certain places and I can't make out what they are supposed to be.

Also, best place / way to pay for a threesome?

Much appreciated, thanks!Classic hotel 500 k for 2 girls 90 minutes.

Hotel travel 510 k for 2 girls 90 minutes.

Kota indah bar area, many bars offer 2 girls for 400 k *2.

Here is the map.

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/zh-tw/map/indonesia-night-life_378341#10/-8. 6740/115. 1381.

[Zippos]

What are the abbreviations you are unable to decipher? Put a list down and we will try our best to clarify that.

To answer your other questions, utilize the same "search thread" button, make a list of places and ask specific questions regarding that.

Cheers.


I'm going to Jakarta soon for vacation and I'm going to be there at least 3 full days. Is there a guide or list somewhere for what the best clubs or hotels are for mongers? When I read others' reviews, sometimes they use abbreviations or shorthand names for certain places and I can't make out what they are supposed to be.

Also, best place / way to pay for a threesome?

Much appreciated, thanks!

[NRandom940]

I'm no expert on Jakarta (yet), but I've been there once and I remember going to Kings Cross and thinking it was the best place I've ever mongered in my life. A lineup of about 10 girls, 8 of them hot and a few of them super hot. Costs the equivalent of $25 usd if I remember correctly. I'm surprised it's not mentioned here more often.

Are all the other places even better? I look forward to finding out.

It's unfortunate that there's not much else to do in Jakarta. Traffic is terrible and I don't like spicy food so I don't think it could ever be a place I stay longer-term like I can in Thailand.

[Delbo1]

Classic hotel 500 k for 2 girls 90 minutes.

Hotel travel 510 k for 2 girls 90 minutes.

Kota indah bar area, many bars offer 2 girls for 400 k *2.

Here is the map.

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/zh-tw/map/indonesia-night-life_378341#10/-8. 6740/115. 1381.There's no way I got 90 minutes for 2 girls in classic felt like 30 minutes.

[Xoxo999]

There's no way I got 90 minutes for 2 girls in classic felt like 30 minutes.You can do 2 shots in 30 minutes! I am too old for that.

[SuperLove]

I am a big fan of anal and sometimes have gone BB too and you should be ready to face shit (pun intended, LOL). It becomes easy if you tell your chick to empty her stomach before the session. I say 50-50 success rate, I know won't work at classic. Knowing my love for her ass, one of my ex girls from Euro suggested we use this regularly, keeps the tool clean and prevents unwanted odour diseases. Good for he & she.


When doing anal, getting feces on your dick is part of the risk you take, and it does not happen too often fortunately.

Nobody expects to be knocked out by the smell of shit while fucking a girl's pussy, look down, and see what appears to be strong signs the girl is not even toilet-trained, or indeed has some retardation.

We all have our own fetishes, and I'm not one to look down on yours, but that's just a scat-type fetish of yours, obviously not shared by the OP.

[Delbo1]

You can do 2 shots in 30 minutes! I am too old for that.You misunderstand me, the ph Be started ringing at 30 minutes to vacate the room.

[Banana Boi]

There's no way I got 90 minutes for 2 girls in classic felt like 30 minutes.Then you got royally hosed because sessions at Classic are for 1 hour from when the housekeeper lets you in the room. What likely happened is while walking to the room one of the girls said to the cleaning staff or whoever to call the room in 30 minutes ie. they didn't want to be with you more than 30 minutes.

I don't find Classic girls to cheat me on time. In fact, the opposite is quite true. If they like you (or are after a bigger tip) many don't care at all if that phone rings and stay over an hour or answer the phone and you keep fucking for 10+ minutes after. That phone ringing doesn't mean the session ends rather it's a reminder to shower and get dressed. All the girl has to say is that her customer took 20+ minutes to shower and dress.

[Zippos]

Set a countdown timer on your phone and show it the room attendant when entering.

They rang the phone once 30 min in session I told my girl to convey the message of we got more time left. When coming out of the room, I saw attendant standing there smiling asking for tip. I took out the stash of cash, looked at her and said " I don't tip for a wake up call". My girl was laughing and I just put that cash back in my pocket. Never got a wake up call again during that week. Sometimes you need to teach them a lesson.

Also, just because they ask for a tip, you necessarily don't need to tip her for cleaning the room.


There's no way I got 90 minutes for 2 girls in classic felt like 30 minutes.

[Vendelo]

…
I read about Classic here and for a good month I went there almost every day, to the extent that I even took the cutest mamasan back home (who turned out to be married. Outch!

I like the quantity of girls and among the 100 or 120 girls, there is always a handful of girls that I really like. Sometimes you have to wait until they come back from their previous booking. I would recommend to go around 5 or 6 pm, later than that is going to become more uncomfortable: more smoke, louder & shittier music, as well as fewer girls.

I always paid 365 k for the girl, 5 k for the club. And if the girl did a good service I always gave a tip as well. Overall, best experience I've had in Jakarta!I have RTFF-ed the last 15-20 pages.

I understand some Classic girl are not allowed to leave Classic. But if I find one that may leave, may she leave to meet me right after our session?

[Zippos]

It appears every now and then. It's a must visit place for me on each trip to Jakarta. Reason why it's not heavily mentioned because, KC is in Kelapa Gading which is bit far away and can take between 30 min to an hour depending on the traffic. Also, besides KC and Summo, I think there is couple more spots there. Not as much happening place as Kota Indah or Classic area. Most guys tends to stay closer to more varieties of choices.

But yes, indeed they got some good collection at any given time. I saw more 8 at KC than I saw in Emporium.


I'm no expert on Jakarta (yet), but I've been there once and I remember going to Kings Cross and thinking it was the best place I've ever mongered in my life. A lineup of about 10 girls, 8 of them hot and a few of them super hot. Costs the equivalent of $25 usd if I remember correctly. I'm surprised it's not mentioned here more often.

Are all the other places even better? I look forward to finding out.

It's unfortunate that there's not much else to do in Jakarta. Traffic is terrible and I don't like spicy food so I don't think it could ever be a place I stay longer-term like I can in Thailand.

[Xoxo999]

Then you got royally hosed because sessions at Classic are for 1 hour from when the housekeeper lets you in the room. What likely happened is while walking to the room one of the girls said to the cleaning staff or whoever to call the room in 30 minutes ie. they didn't want to be with you more than 30 minutes.

I don't find Classic girls to cheat me on time. In fact, the opposite is quite true. If they like you (or are after a bigger tip) many don't care at all if that phone rings and stay over an hour or answer the phone and you keep fucking for 10+ minutes after. That phone ringing doesn't mean the session ends rather it's a reminder to shower and get dressed. All the girl has to say is that her customer took 20+ minutes to shower and dress.How to make sure we get the time we paid for? Any good strategies for dealing with the cheaters, other than cutting the loss and moving on.

[Scarer]

I can not imagine, ever (!!) what has happened to MichaelGrandus. In every toilet in Indonesia, be it in a house or elsewhere, there will be bottle or other means with water to clean your butt. (I'm born-Indonesian, that's why I am sure) I think it was an accident that happened during the action.This seems more like the girl doesn't want to be in this business and is being forced by family maybe. She is finding "shit" ways so that the customers will complaint and they fire her from work.

[D Cups]

This seems more like the girl doesn't want to be in this business and is being forced by family maybe. She is finding "shit" ways so that the customers will complaint and they fire her from work.I read that most of the girls are working off some debt.

[MrMiyaG]

I have RTFF-ed the last 15-20 pages.

I understand some Classic girl are not allowed to leave Classic. But if I find one that may leave, may she leave to meet me right after our session?I haven't done it but I assumed it is possible for all the girls. Because I once asked a Mama after my session about taking the girl out to my hotel she brought up her phone calculator and wrote 6*365 k= 2190 k IDR. The 6 was the worktime she had remaining on her shift.

Personally I wouldn't go that route. If you have the time and the girl likes you, just handle it with her directly and ask her to come on her day off. I did that and the girl asked me 1 juta.

[Werqweq]

This seems more like the girl doesn't want to be in this business and is being forced by family maybe. She is finding "shit" ways so that the customers will complaint and they fire her from work.Sounds like a plausible theory.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

How to make sure we get the time we paid for? Any good strategies for dealing with the cheaters, other than cutting the loss and moving on.From Zippos Post 18201.

"Set a countdown timer on your phone and show it the room attendant when entering. ".

[LoveItHere69]

There's no way I got 90 minutes for 2 girls in classic felt like 30 minutes.I have not been to Classic for months. I just visited and I too believe I was shorted on time by around 20 minutes. I am pretty consistent on walking out the door at the 40-45 minute mark. The phone rang at I am guessing the 25 minute point. It even rang again on our way out which I felt was at the 40 minute mark. The next day I told one of the mamasans about it but think she did not understand or give a crap. I told the guy leading us to the room and turning on the aircon that I was shorted time last time and showed him the time. Guess what? We walked out the door at the 45 minute mark. Not sure if there are certain girls telling them to ring to the phone early, or mamasans telling the girls to do this to certain customers (but this mamasan has seen me many times before), or if it is a new company BS thing they are trying out.

[Banana Boi]

Not sure if there are certain girls telling them to ring to the phone early, or mamasans telling the girls to do this to certain customers (but this mamasan has seen me many times before), or if it is a new company BS thing they are trying out.Damn that's not a good trend. Thanks for the update, LoveitHere. Was this a mamasan who "knows" you?

Are others on the ground getting the same crap? Time to start setting our phone timers from when the door closes. I always used the start time for my session once the housekeeper checks your number and you close the door. Kind of wish I was there now so I could have a few sessions and report back.

Shrinkflation has hit Classic.


I read that most of the girls are working off some debt.

None of us know what the real truth is but yes the most common story is girls end up at these places to pay off their father's or their own gambling debt.

[Vendelo]

I haven't done it but I assumed it is possible for all the girls. Because I once asked a Mama after my session about taking the girl out to my hotel she brought up her phone calculator and wrote 6*365 k= 2190 k IDR. The 6 was the worktime she had remaining on her shift.

Personally I wouldn't go that route. If you have the time and the girl likes you, just handle it with her directly and ask her to come on her day off. I did that and the girl asked me 1 juta.Thanks for your reply.

2 million IDR! That a savvy mamasan!

[Macau81]

HI Day 3 Classic spa, EMP, MTR.

Got up at around 1 pm ordered my breakfast from grab & got freshen up. Today my plan was clear to burn calories / money to classic spa & 2nd floor, then hit to starmoon & take last night girl out to my apartment for night. Reached classic spa in basement at 3 pm, took badge enjoyed sauna & got sitted in main hall for having look on the available girls while slipping my beer. It was a bit early that time 8-9 girls that time & girls were still coming as it was nearing 4 pm only, mama called the lineup didn't liked any sent them back. Waited for some time & seen a new girl Venia waking in & sitting on the couch of 600 k tag called mam & selected her. Chatted with her for some time through translator & went to room. It was on the room when she took off her clothes I released I got a pearl there. She was not less then a 9 with 165 cm having DD on slim waist she was a rare found in classic, but shy as she was new there as she told. It was a blissful 50 minutes or so & I enjoyed it whole. Got contacts exchanged & tipped her 50 K on which she laughed so I added 50 k more & we parted with kiss. Got out & settled the bill & stopped on the ground floor to eat. It was around 5 pm & received a WA from Emporium girl which I met yesterday, she was interested in meeting me too for tonight if I want. I said why not deal fixed for 2 M from 7 pm to 8 am. I reached my apartment & waited for her she reached around 7. 30 pm, OMG she is was looking so cute in normal attires. It was a wonderful experience we drunk, ate danced & of course the intense love making in between, mind you it was all BBFS & it felt more like exchanging emotions not just stocks a pure GFE. I find out that she is very much fond of sex & likes it much if her partner knows how to play properly with tongue & fingers, it makes her so much wild & horny I just can't put that in words brothers. Anyways as all things needs to end the night ended & in morning we both didn't want to get away, but she needs to reach to EMP for work & I need to have some serious sleep we parted away.What's EMP?

[NoGermaphobe]

What's EMP?Hi!

If you read just the entire post that you quoted to ask this question, it should be rather obvious what EMP is an abbreviation for.

[Banana Boi]

What's EMP?Emporivm Spa on Jalan Pecenongan. Guys on here call it Emporium Spa.

[Incrociatore]

Mr. BKK is correct. I'm a long-time resident and typically use tinder to identify girls to come to me. Let them deal with the traffic. Always VC beforehand and am clear about expectations (my Indonesian is good). Nonetheless, I still get a dud now and again, but my success rate is still well over 90%. I would not want to be a new visitor trying to negotiate the traffic in this megacity on my own. Bangkok is much easier to deal with even if you don't know much Thai.What prices I am expecting to pay for Tinder girls? I am currently in Uganda, and I think the next stop could be Jakarta. I don't speak the language, but there is ChatGPT, which is much better than Google Translate. I don't like brothels, that is why I am asking. Also I would like to know what kind of service they do offer. And if some do bareback as well.

[ZachyBoy]

I returned to Kota Indah for the second time to visit this girl. Her name is Lenta, about 22 years old from Banten.

The first time we met, she was okay, nothing special other than GFE and willing to serve. At the end of the session, she promised a lot of things if I came back to see her. From taking naked selfie, filming her when we fuck, bareback, cum in mouth, everything and anything except anal.

So I came to see her again two days ago. In my mind, I had nothing to lose if that didn't happen. I can move from one bar to another and keep looking.

Turn out she was a beast, end up with two sessions, and she sucked me dry until the last drop.

The problem is I didn't ask her mobile number or can't remember the name of the shop. But it was the one at the end, MRT or Grand MRT I think.

[DevSagar]

I just checked in on Monday at Holiday Inn Gajah Mada at around 6 PM and opened this site. I had read about it being blocked but experienced it now personally. In June, had no issues with the working of this platform but now, yes I have faced it. The message that comes is that the site is blocked due to trust issues by the government.

Any one here in Jakarta who would like to catch up as I am here for a couple of days, PMs welcome.

Regards.

[Delbo1]

I just checked in on Monday at Holiday Inn Gajah Mada at around 6 PM and opened this site. I had read about it being blocked but experienced it now personally. In June, had no issues with the working of this platform but now, yes I have faced it. The message that comes is that the site is blocked due to trust issues by the government.

Any one here in Jakarta who would like to catch up as I am here for a couple of days, PMs welcome.

Regards.You say it's blocked. Is it still blocked when using hotel wi-fi? It was working with holiday inn Wi-Fi last time I was there.

[DevSagar]

Same here mate; last time it worked like a breeze. I am able to use it but got to refresh the page again and again when I get the message. As of now, it is working but does hang up. I too read about it in the past but never faced the trouble till the time I personally faced it. As of now, I am sorted.

Regards.


You say it's blocked. Is it still blocked when using hotel wi-fi? It was working with holiday inn Wi-Fi last time I was there.

[Gabacho]

You say it's blocked. Is it still blocked when using hotel wi-fi? It was working with holiday inn Wi-Fi last time I was there.He can just use a VPN. I use one called Windscribe that works well. Alot of times on public Wi-Fi like for example at Dennys or Applebee's here in the states it will block ISG then I just turn on the Windscribe app and reload the page and it works like magic. Same thing with Pirate Bay too a website for downloading movies and TV shows.

[SuperLove]

Looks like a gem to me, kickass body looks and that ass is amazing. Hope she got a decent pounding. Looks like she was up for almost everything BB too. Great going and especially the pictures.


I returned to Kota Indah for the second time to visit this girl. Her name is Lenta, about 22 years old from Banten.

The first time we met, she was okay, nothing special other than GFE and willing to serve. At the end of the session, she promised a lot of things if I came back to see her. From taking naked selfie, filming her when we fuck, bareback, cum in mouth, everything and anything except anal.

So I came to see her again two days ago. In my mind, I had nothing to lose if that didn't happen. I can move from one bar to another and keep looking.

Turn out she was a beast, end up with two sessions, and she sucked me dry until the last drop.

The problem is I didn't ask her mobile number or can't remember the name of the shop. But it was the one at the end, MRT or Grand MRT I think.

[Vendelo]

He can just use a VPN. I use one called Windscribe that works well. Alot of times on public Wi-Fi like for example at Dennys or Applebee's here in the states it will block ISG then I just turn on the Windscribe app and reload the page and it works like magic. Same thing with Pirate Bay too a website for downloading movies and TV shows.Thanks!

I just downloaded Windscribe and am learning how to use it. Do you pay for a subscription or are you able to view ISG without a subscription?

[Giovanni Volo]

I stay 14 days in Jakarta in July and I would live a report useful for future travelers.

Classic.

Ground floor: disco with girls around 30 year hold. You pay the entrance, very little, the drink, normal price, and the girls, I never take it.

Therme: old. I never suggest it. You can also get a girl here, nothing special.

Terminal: girls around 19-23 years old. Some very beautiful. Service change a lot secodn the girls. 1 hours 365 k. 2 girls 500 l.

Girl in hotel all the njght: after 2 hours invented her mother died. Not suggested.

Mulia.

Free lance around 2. 5 - 3. 5 million for a night. Nice music.

Terminal.

Girls nice, lower level than classic. But with 500 k you can get 90 minutes with two girls.

Kota Indiah.

I take 1 nice girls for 3 hours at price of 2 hours, around 800 k.

19 years old, but nothing special. And room not clean. I never be back for hygiene.

Lokasari.

400 k nice free lancer offer by a old lady. 18 years old.

Hotel terrible.

After I was in the room women told she have not condom and to do without. Girl accepted I no.

To avoid for hygiene and safety.

City in general.

Ugly, disgusting. Aside some area, commercial center and hotel. Look safe at least. And good food everywhere.

[Gabacho]

Thanks!

I just downloaded Windscribe and am learning how to use it. Do you pay for a subscription or are you able to view ISG without a subscription?You get 2 gb free per month and 10 gb free per month if you register your email address. No need to pay unless you want access to the premium servers but the free ones work just fine for basic stuff like accessing ISG, geolocked websites or downloading torrents.

[Gabacho]

I returned to Kota Indah for the second time to visit this girl. Her name is Lenta, about 22 years old from Banten.

The first time we met, she was okay, nothing special other than GFE and willing to serve. At the end of the session, she promised a lot of things if I came back to see her. From taking naked selfie, filming her when we fuck, bareback, cum in mouth, everything and anything except anal.

So I came to see her again two days ago. In my mind, I had nothing to lose if that didn't happen. I can move from one bar to another and keep looking.

Turn out she was a beast, end up with two sessions, and she sucked me dry until the last drop.

The problem is I didn't ask her mobile number or can't remember the name of the shop. But it was the one at the end, MRT or Grand MRT I think.Excellent report brother. I was already planning on checking out Kota Indah when I get there, specifically Starmoon, Royal and Royal VIP. Now I will have to check out your new place as well. I like how she was open to taking pics that is awesome. How much IDR was this session?? Did you tip for the BBFS or pics or was that included in the base price?

[Gabacho]

Lokasari.

400 k nice free lancer offer by a old lady. 18 years old.

Hotel terrible.

After I was in the room women told she have not condom and to do without. Girl accepted I no.

To avoid for hygiene and safety.

City in general.

Ugly, disgusting. Aside some area, commercial center and hotel. Look safe at least. And good food everywhere.I too am interested in these Lokasari freelancers. Good price and always seems to be BBFS is the norm. Thanks for your report.

-Gabacho.

[Gabacho]

I returned to Kota Indah for the second time to visit this girl. Her name is Lenta, about 22 years old from Banten.

The first time we met, she was okay, nothing special other than GFE and willing to serve. At the end of the session, she promised a lot of things if I came back to see her. From taking naked selfie, filming her when we fuck, bareback, cum in mouth, everything and anything except anal.

So I came to see her again two days ago. In my mind, I had nothing to lose if that didn't happen. I can move from one bar to another and keep looking.

Turn out she was a beast, end up with two sessions, and she sucked me dry until the last drop.

The problem is I didn't ask her mobile number or can't remember the name of the shop. But it was the one at the end, MRT or Grand MRT I think.I found it on the map Grand MTR last bar on the north end exactly like you mentioned. Thanks for the info. We need more info and reports on all the bars in the kota Indah complex.

[Lumens]

I just finished my first time doing the rounds of some of places frequently mentioned in this forum. This is report is going to be a little different.

Classic.

I had read that lately the rooms get busy at 5:30 ish and so I decided to see what was going on there at 5. When I got here there was only about 50 girls. MS kept trying to get my attention. From reading this forum I expect this and told I want to drink a beer first to get my bearings. Their touting was slightly intrusive but mostly amusing. If you are not in a hurry the MS routine is no big deal. A The girls looked lively. However, the few really good looking ones seemed less lively so I left. I will add this. On a previous trip to Jakarta I vistied the ground floor space around 7 on a weekday. At that point I did not know there was an upstairs and I was just curious to see the infamous Classic. There were only 3 other dudes there at that time of day. I thought the girls there on the whole were consistently better looking than what I saw 2 floors above at around 5 ish. I did not partake as I had to be somewhere that evening. I will have to go back to terminal later in the evening to see if the overall selection improves into the night.

Emporium.

So I ended up at Emporium after Classic which is a short walk. Before I paid the entrance fee they they explained the pricing. Somehow 200.000 tip for the girl was part of the pricing which knew from reading this is BS. But do I really want to put a negative cast on this visit for the price 2 coffees in America? They should just be honest and say the entrance fee is 1. 8 and 1. 6. Before I paid entrance I asked how many girls and the MS said there are 28 and I said but how many available right now? She replied 20. When the line up came out there were maybe 10. Three of these were on the "higher" price range. There were a few that had certifiably amazing bodies. Faces not so much. I picked the tallest most hour glass shaped and she met me in the spa. One definite thing about this place is everything is very clean and classy. That alone made the higher price point worth it. The lady I was with definitely had a smoking body, we chit chatted in the pool. There was a lot of touching but according to her things can not get too freaky in the pool area. Shower 1 near the pool. We got to the room. Shower 2 in the room 3 minutes from the end of the first one because why? We do the deed. Body is smoking but she was just adequate action wise. Did just enough BJ and was not into receiving. After the deed she told me that usually there are more girls working. She asked me for tip which seemed silly as all my shit is obviously in the locker. This is after she told me she has been working there 2 years. I suspect if I try a newer girl there might be a little more passion. Either that I should just say tip at my discretion upfront. I will go back with adjusted expectations. Overall it was about 1. 8 with the "mandated" tip.

Kota Indah.

Went there and saw there are many more spots than are discussed on this forum. I could tell my gocek driver was kind of grossed out by me getting out there. I hit up Starmoon first. Fish bowl situation. Most of them looked really bored but were mostly sitting up and presentable. I was told it was happy hour and if I understood correctly it is 250 or 200 an hour during happy hour. Eventually I found out that happy hour starts most days at 2 and ends at 8 . MS kept shining the pointer on different girls asking if I want that one, or that one or that one. She was hitting them in the face with the laser and I kept telling her to stop. After a while I decided I could do better and moved on to Royal and got there at 8. Royal is f'ing insane. It is one part sports bar 2 parts brothel and one part flop house. Because they are not set up for fishbowl all the girls are sitting in one part of the bar in booths and at tables packed like sardines. They were so many packed so tightly with so little light I could barely see who was worth my time and money. Unlike the other places they were mostly in street clothes. Some are sleeping, most are on their phone, all of them look bored as hell. Very uninspiring. MS got in front of me and said this one. Out of reflex and general revulsion I automatically said no but then did a double take. The girl I initially said no to was cute as hell. Super charming, could really flirt, was dressed to impress and shaped like the number 8. We sat down drank a beer in another area and then took care of business in one of the squalid rooms upstairs. She was pretty good. Although the place is a dump this specific girl made it worth it. 450 + 50 tip.

[ZachyBoy]

Excellent report brother. I was already planning on checking out Kota Indah when I get there, specifically Starmoon, Royal and Royal VIP. Now I will have to check out your new place as well. I like how she was open to taking pics that is awesome. How much IDR was this session?? Did you tip for the BBFS or pics or was that included in the base price?I will start my reply with "don't get your expectations too high". To me that punting quality was very rare, more rare than the blue unicorns in mars. TBH, most of my experience at Kota Indah quite the opposite. She is extremely rare breed, YMMV tho. On the first session, I tip her 100 k idr. But I spent time after our session, drinking couple beers and pull her next to me. We talked, I asked a lot of questions about her, her family, etc. Kinda build connections. The fact that I'm asian who speak fluent bahasa really helps.

Second meet up, I tip her 400 k IDR. Since I took two vouchers, we end up use the full two hours, purely I'm no longer spring chicken. Spent 30-40 hours in between fuck where I massage her to make her relax, and eat her again to start round two.

Like I said, YMMV, she might not be open to anyone but good luck as you never know until you try.

[DevSagar]

3 days, 3 chicks and 3 outstanding experiences.

After a harrowing flight; waiting of 5. 5 hours for connecting flight to Jakarta in Saigon and then horrible customs clearance at Terminal 2 of Jakarta airport, my nightmare ended when I was informed that I had been upgraded to a premium 527 square feet room on 18th floor of Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. Awesome corner room with plenty of natural light and a wide window in washroom as well.

Monday checked in at 6. 30 PM. I was dead tired and sleep deprived; so, pinged my old chicks. One of them came at 10.15 PM and left at 10.45 PM, job done and me a happy satisfied man. I asked her do you want to go and she said up to you. I said leave and off she went.

2nd day, where else but Emporium. Reached at 4. 30. Very few girls on Tuesday. Mamasan knew my choice and suggested 2 girls. Brought them over to me. One was damn beautiful, sexy, and curvaceous but he was not sure of service as she was a new joiner. I wanted to take her but noticed the hesitation on Mamasan face. The 2nd chick name if I recall correctly was Risa, slim 20-year-old with big boobs and was constantly smiling. He said take her and obviously I knew from her demeanour that she was very friendly girl. I am not into petite girls but she was the best at that point of time. Mamasan explained to her my needs and when he said CIM, she laughed and used the word "CARE" twice and she nodded her head. I can only inform my colleagues here that we extended our 90-minute session and out of that time our tongues never moved away from each other. If I was tired of DFK, she simply did not give up and did her best to make me cum but ultimately had a CIM. She tried to take her face away but I did not allow her and held her face. She gave me a shower and was still playing with my dick from behind and kissing my body. No complaints and gave her a tip of 200 K. My legs were shaking as I fucked her in all positions, was dead tired; had zero energy and juice left in my body. Came to hotel, had a cup of coffee and Dunno when but dozed off for an hour to wake up at 10.15 PM. Got up, had my shower, and reached Bat's at 11.30 PM with the sole intention of enjoying the live band with a couple of drinks and no chick for the night.

Not many chicks in Bat's but I specifically counted that 5 were very cute and beautiful. One chick was being approached by a lot of punters, she was very cute and naughty but my guess was correct. Met a punter who had approached her and he told me she is asking 300 USD. A few approached me too but I politely said no. I left the club at 1. 30 am and saw one very beautiful girl sitting in lobby while I was waiting for my cab. Called her and took her number. I called her to my room today afternoon and what can I say, outstanding and wonderful experience with her. She is tall and typically the woman I like. Tall, Sweet, beautiful, wifey looks and humble with wow service. She also likes DFK and our tongues were inter locked forever. I could not cum in pussy but had a very wet, sensual, long, and loving BJ with CIM. She kept looking at my face even after I had discharged in her mouth to ensure that I was satisfied and nodded my head off to indicate that not even a drop left in my system. Wiped my dick with a tissue before her shower. We had a chat post my shower that she is 35 years old and has a 11-year-old son. I have no issues with that as she left me a satisfied and a contended man. Lovely woman indeed. The pics for your perusal Gents. Isn't that ass to die for?

Till my next Jakarta FR, Ciao.

Regards.

[United1]

Hallo. Any seeking.com users on this chatt? I have using the site for 3 years and in last year I beieve to be going downhill. Anyone else with similar expereinces? There are very few options and many of the girls are old timers. One suspect is many are on Tinder or other dating apps. I also got the intel that many of girls now post in Singapore because there is more money there and lads are flying girls up for the weekend. Damm rich people.

Any insights to shares? I check Bali and its stunning european girls who thereby charging so much money.

Time to delete app?

[Vendelo]

I just finished my first time doing the rounds of some of places frequently mentioned in this forum. This is report is going to be a little different.

Classic.

I had read that lately the rooms get busy at 5:30 ish and so I decided to see what was going on there at 5. When I got here there was only about 50 girls. MS kept trying to get my attention. From reading this forum I expect this and told I want to drink a beer first to get my bearings. Their touting was slightly intrusive but mostly amusing. If you are not in a hurry the MS routine is no big deal. A The girls looked lively. However, the few really good looking ones seemed less lively so I left. I will add this. On a previous trip to Jakarta I vistied the ground floor space around 7 on a weekday. At that point I did not know there was an upstairs and I was just curious to see the infamous Classic. There were only 3 other dudes there at that time of day. I thought the girls there on the whole were consistently better looking than what I saw 2 floors above at around 5 ish. I did not partake as I had to be somewhere that evening. I will have to go back to terminal later in the evening to see if the overall selection improves into the night.

Emporium.

So I ended up at Emporium after Classic which is a short walk. Before I paid the entrance fee they they explained the pricing. Somehow 200.000 tip for the girl was part of the pricing which knew from reading this is BS. But do I really want to put a negative cast on this visit for the price 2 coffees in America? They should just be honest and say the entrance fee is 1. 8 and 1. 6. Before I paid entrance I asked how many girls and the MS said there are 28 and I said but how many available right now? She replied 20. When the line up came out there were maybe 10. Three of these were on the "higher" price range. There were a few that had certifiably amazing bodies. Faces not so much. I picked the tallest most hour glass shaped and she met me in the spa. One definite thing about this place is everything is very clean and classy. That alone made the higher price point worth it. The lady I was with definitely had a smoking body, we chit chatted in the pool. There was a lot of touching but according to her things can not get too freaky in the pool area. Shower 1 near the pool. We got to the room. Shower 2 in the room 3 minutes from the end of the first one because why? We do the deed. Body is smoking but she was just adequate action wise. Did just enough BJ and was not into receiving. After the deed she told me that usually there are more girls working. She asked me for tip which seemed silly as all my shit is obviously in the locker. This is after she told me she has been working there 2 years. I suspect if I try a newer girl there might be a little more passion. Either that I should just say tip at my discretion upfront. I will go back with adjusted expectations. Overall it was about 1. 8 with the "mandated" tip.

Kota Indah.

Went there and saw there are many more spots than are discussed on this forum. I could tell my gocek driver was kind of grossed out by me getting out there. I hit up Starmoon first. Fish bowl situation. Most of them looked really bored but were mostly sitting up and presentable. I was told it was happy hour and if I understood correctly it is 250 or 200 an hour during happy hour. Eventually I found out that happy hour starts most days at 2 and ends at 8 . MS kept shining the pointer on different girls asking if I want that one, or that one or that one. She was hitting them in the face with the laser and I kept telling her to stop. After a while I decided I could do better and moved on to Royal and got there at 8. Royal is f'ing insane. It is one part sports bar 2 parts brothel and one part flop house. Because they are not set up for fishbowl all the girls are sitting in one part of the bar in booths and at tables packed like sardines. They were so many packed so tightly with so little light I could barely see who was worth my time and money. Unlike the other places they were mostly in street clothes. Some are sleeping, most are on their phone, all of them look bored as hell. Very uninspiring. MS got in front of me and said this one. Out of reflex and general revulsion I automatically said no but then did a double take. The girl I initially said no to was cute as hell. Super charming, could really flirt, was dressed to impress and shaped like the number 8. We sat down drank a beer in another area and then took care of business in one of the squalid rooms upstairs. She was pretty good. Although the place is a dump this specific girl made it worth it. 450 + 50 tip.I've read many reports over the years. Your report made me laugh out loud. Place is a dump. One part flop house. One of the squalid rooms.

Thanks!

I am going to Jakarta next week.

[Vendelo]

I'll be in Jakarta next wk for the first time. I'm a seasoned monger (USA Mexico Ukraine Asia).

I used SA before. Its expensive. US $130 a month. Sometimes its easy to meet girls but one problem is they message you after wanting to meet up again. I currently don't have a paid subscription so I can only browse and not send / read messages.

There's quite a few good looking Jakarta girls. See attached pics. I'm only going to be in Jakarta for maybe 3 full days before I go to Thailand. I really want to check out Emporium and Classic and give a shot of meeting girls in malls during the day. I feel like that's a better way to spend my time than hooking up with a SA girl (s). What are your thoughts?

[Zippos]

Entirely depends on what you prefer. Whether you want to occupy yourself with SA girls or go to the clubs and massage places. Only difference would be the price point. SA will definitely cost you more than any of these clubs guys usually resort to.

If 1/2 SA girls a day for longer periods of time satisfy your needs, then go for it. On the other hand, you want to be with as many girls possibly as you can get, go with massage for day game and clubs for evening. Alternatively, try both. What to loose!


I'll be in Jakarta next wk for the first time. I'm a seasoned monger (USA Mexico Ukraine Asia).

I used SA before. Its expensive. US $130 a month. Sometimes its easy to meet girls but one problem is they message you after wanting to meet up again. I currently don't have a paid subscription so I can only browse and not send / read messages.

There's quite a few good looking Jakarta girls. See attached pics. I'm only going to be in Jakarta for maybe 3 full days before I go to Thailand. I really want to check out Emporium and Classic and give a shot of meeting girls in malls during the day. I feel like that's a better way to spend my time than hooking up with a SA girl (s). What are your thoughts?

[Zippos]

I'm trying to put together some local wording / sentences which would benefit all here. Since you speak bahasa fluently, maybe you can help with the translation of below terms. I'm more curious to know the local terms / phrases / Slang for the below words. You don't need to translate word for word like google does and sometimes locals looks at us with confusion or simply don't understand what we are trying to say.

BBBJ. Bare Back Blowjob -.

BBFS. Bare Back full sex -.

DFK. Deep French Kiss -.

CIM. Cum in mouth -.

AFS. Anal sex.

Make love -.

Big Boobs -.

Small boobs -.

Spinner -.

Full Figured -.

Others feel free to chime in if you think of any other particular words.


I will start my reply with "don't get your expectations too high". To me that punting quality was very rare, more rare than the blue unicorns in mars. TBH, most of my experience at Kota Indah quite the opposite. She is extremely rare breed, YMMV tho. On the first session, I tip her 100 k idr. But I spent time after our session, drinking couple beers and pull her next to me. We talked, I asked a lot of questions about her, her family, etc. Kinda build connections. The fact that I'm asian who speak fluent bahasa really helps.

Second meet up, I tip her 400 k IDR. Since I took two vouchers, we end up use the full two hours, purely I'm no longer spring chicken. Spent 30-40 hours in between fuck where I massage her to make her relax, and eat her again to start round two.

Like I said, YMMV, she might not be open to anyone but good luck as you never know until you try.

[Sychip1]

Long time lurker, tried to register on here many times but it's strange as I don't get the activation email or other issues.

My report on Jakarta last week:

Day 1.

Touched down at lunchtime, checked into Classic Hotel. Got a great deal and it's not a bad hotel actually, a bit tired tho. Went straight to 2nd floor & surrounded by mamasans, a bit pushy but it's fine really. Really had a ball, must've been introduced to 10 girls or more. Chose 2 girls with 1 girl being really hot & spoke English, the other in miniskirt & curvier but not much English. I actually rejected the first friend she suggested, wasn't my type but made sure both girls fine with DFK. In the end I wished just gone for the 1st girl, the 2nd girl had a slight belly & without English skills she looked a bit bored. And she want skilful at BBJ at all.

Day 2.

Went to Classic again, just had a beer & talked to a few ladies but wasn't really feeling it.

Day 3.

Checked out Mali club, arrived at 715 but told its open at 8. They searched my bag and said I had to finish my drink which I did but tbh the vibes weren't great. Then when I went to reception they said the entry fee is 154 k but it's free if I take a lady my gut just told me to turn back. Maybe just a bit paranoid but with how the security guards acted I half expected them to say that I already came inside and couldn't turn back but they let me out.

In general Jakarta is very liberal, I found the dating apps pretty good tbh. Obviously Muslim ladies have to marry Muslim but for dating they are free to date as they please which kinda implies flings. And this was what I was told and felt when I met up with some dates. But obviously ymmv.

[United1]

If you are goings to sign up, make sure to use promo code. You can finds them online. Just search. You can finds 33% off discount plus plus.

Yes, there are the stunning ladies on SA in Jakarta. But they knows their worth, and are hired by rich Indos or rich expats. So the prices can range from 2. 5-5 M per hour. I have found models, actresses that in the 10 M range. So the YMMV.

My original points is that in Jakarta it has changed from 2 years ago. But for me, I prefer civil ladies vs the spas. But that is me.


I'll be in Jakarta next wk for the first time. I'm a seasoned monger (USA Mexico Ukraine Asia).

I used SA before. Its expensive. US $130 a month. Sometimes its easy to meet girls but one problem is they message you after wanting to meet up again. I currently don't have a paid subscription so I can only browse and not send / read messages.

There's quite a few good looking Jakarta girls. See attached pics. I'm only going to be in Jakarta for maybe 3 full days before I go to Thailand. I really want to check out Emporium and Classic and give a shot of meeting girls in malls during the day. I feel like that's a better way to spend my time than hooking up with a SA girl (s). What are your thoughts?

[JonnySutton]

Tell me how it goes. I'm heading to Jakarta soon too and will probably check out SA and maybe Tinder. SA has been excellent in London / Europe but strangely not so great in Thailand / Vietnam since the volume of girls is rather small and too many of them are just toe-dipping. IMO SA girls (the top tier ones) are usually hotter and more interesting than girls at the bars / clubs in SE Asia and often their English is OK or evengood.


I'll be in Jakarta next wk for the first time. I'm a seasoned monger (USA Mexico Ukraine Asia).

I used SA before. Its expensive. US $130 a month. Sometimes its easy to meet girls but one problem is they message you after wanting to meet up again. I currently don't have a paid subscription so I can only browse and not send / read messages.

There's quite a few good looking Jakarta girls. See attached pics. I'm only going to be in Jakarta for maybe 3 full days before I go to Thailand. I really want to check out Emporium and Classic and give a shot of meeting girls in malls during the day. I feel like that's a better way to spend my time than hooking up with a SA girl (s). What are your thoughts?

[Vendelo]

Tell me how it goes. I'm heading to Jakarta soon too and will probably check out SA and maybe Tinder. SA has been excellent in London / Europe but strangely not so great in Thailand / Vietnam since the volume of girls is rather small and too many of them are just toe-dipping. IMO SA girls (the top tier ones) are usually hotter and more interesting than girls at the bars / clubs in SE Asia and often their English is OK or evengood.So, I decided not to use SA. Girls look expensive. A few Europeans (why would I go to Jakarta to fuck a Rusky? Also, I don't like meeting girls that have pics from trips to Sydney, Singapore, Dubai, Paris, KL, etc.

My plan is visiting malls during the day and EMP and Classic in the evening. Will provide a report.

I arrive at CGK, 1:20 pm on Friday. I estimate I'll arrive at Luminor at 5.

[Amadeuss]

I'll be in Jakarta next wk for the first time. I'm a seasoned monger (USA Mexico Ukraine Asia).

I used SA before. Its expensive. US $130 a month. Sometimes its easy to meet girls but one problem is they message you after wanting to meet up again. I currently don't have a paid subscription so I can only browse and not send / read messages.

There's quite a few good looking Jakarta girls. See attached pics. I'm only going to be in Jakarta for maybe 3 full days before I go to Thailand. I really want to check out Emporium and Classic and give a shot of meeting girls in malls during the day. I feel like that's a better way to spend my time than hooking up with a SA girl (s). What are your thoughts?All your excamples are, by looking at their face, ice cold gold diggers.

Poor chap who has to pay $$ for those decoration girls.

[ZachyBoy]

I'm trying to put together some local wording / sentences which would benefit all here. Since you speak bahasa fluently, maybe you can help with the translation of below terms. I'm more curious to know the local terms / phrases / Slang for the below words. You don't need to translate word for word like google does and sometimes locals looks at us with confusion or simply don't understand what we are trying to say.Hi Zippos,

Not sure you will get what you looking for. Indo is a very diverse and Muslim country; they don't have the exact Bahasa for the above. Slang is different for every district or people who come from different backgrounds. Slang words for girls who come from Bandung will be different from the girls who come from Manado. For example, Make Love is 'Ngewe' or 'Ngentot' or 'Naek', or 'Maen', but 'Maen' is the same word that the locals use for playing 'Main'.

BBFS, is 'engga pake kondom' or if you translate it back to English means No condom. But like I said, the local might say 'terjun bebas' which is doesn't make sense if you translate it back to English.

Because 'terjun bebas' is jumping without parachute.

That's the first challenge, the other challenge is even if you know the word, you still can't pronounce it like a local does. If let's say you can, they still know that you are a blue / foreigner from your appearance and treat you as a non-local resident. My suggestion is to organise meet up with locals, organise / invite them as a tour guide. They will open a lot of doors for you.

[Medellin65]

I would like to contribute by reporting my discovery. By doing a search on telegram and cross-referencing it with the data from the map posted here a few pages ago I discovered the telegram account of the De Momo spa hotel. The account is called "DE FAMS" and refers to the two sister SPAs De Momo and De Nattsu. There are photos of the girls with rates for 90 min "full service" (all included), and at first glance the price seems excellent. I looked at the photos and the girls are all young and beautiful. They also have a 3 in 1 promotion, which if I understood correctly you save by paying for 3 services in advance to use with 3 different girls or as you prefer. I was also contacted by someone from the Maxwell hotel spa who showed me the photos of the Maxwell girls, also very young and beautiful, always 90 min full service but slightly higher price (contact found within the DE FAMS account [Deleted by Admin]).

[Vendelo]

All your excamples are, by looking at their face, ice cold gold diggers.

Poor chap who has to pay $$ for those decoration girls."Ice cold gold diggers. " Exactly!

When I see a pic of a girl in Dubai, KL, in business class on a plane, suite in a nice hotel, or holding a bouquet of flowers or Chanel shopping bag, etc, I just click "next. "

[Werqweq]

Like I wrongly posted in the general forum, my first day I went to
Emporivm, and had a great experience.

Next day, Friday, I took the 10 minute walk from Redtop hotel to Classic.
Traffic and bad sidewalks not withstanding, it's walkable, but keep your
eyes on the road, not your phone. I'd not want to walk there at night
if it was the first time though, as sidewalks are really bad and you
can step into something bad and hurt yourself.

I was going to post a description
of classic, but then I saw Nuttin Serious's post
(http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2757727&viewfull=1#post2757727),
and he says it a lot better than I could, and what he says about the
procedure is still as it is today, so I'll just add a few details about
my experience.

As Nuttin Serious says, there are several mamasans in the room, and each
seems to have her own herd of girls. My first day, Friday, I happened
to only deal with one mamasan, Cha-Cha she told me her name was the
next day, and I kinda liked her. A bit brusque and business-like, but
friendly enough and with some humour. The next day I got to experience
the other mamasans, and they were all annoying, pushy, and had trouble
understanding "no". So I recommend asking for mamasan Cha-Cha if
you want to get a good start.

So on Friday I entered at around 5pm, and the immediate impression,
after last nights evening at Emporivm, was that I was no longer flying
first class. If Emporivm is a luxury train moving at a comfortable
pace, Classic is a low-cost airline getting you to your destinations
more quickly, but also less comfortably. But: there are many more girls
at Classic. Easily 3-4 times as many as at Emporivm.

Mamasan Cha-Cha asked me what kind of girl I wanted, listing some
general terms for me to get the drift (thin, big boobs, no baby, etc.)
Thin and no baby was my answer, and she herded up 6-7 girls, none of
which I like much.

I'd rate the girls in general as something between "high-end" Bangkok
bar-girls, or low-end Bangkok go-go bar girls.

So I told mamasan to show me other girls, and she herded up another
10-12 girls. One quickly stood out to me, and after asking mamasan
to again use the flashlight on her phone so I could see something
in this dark and dingy hall, her light confirmed my choice
and eye contact indicated she was ok about me too.

I told mamasan I was interested in this girl, who turned out to have a
name starting with L. I'd rate her as a weak 8. Mamasan told the girl
something, I guess, "step up to this guy and be friendly". She didn't
speak much English at all, but I could test the waters for a few minutes
while she was standing between my legs.

Being satisfied, I indicated to mamasan I'd like to go with this girl,
and you can read in Nuttin Serious's excellent post how that procedure is.

L and I went down to the rooms, took a shower, and I laid down on the bed.
She started sucking my dick. After she had sucked my dick long enough,
I like the day before pulled her on top of me, but did not enter her
pussy. Instead we just grinded against each other.

Like the day before I was curious about whether condoms would be required
or not. I kept grinding against her, with her on top of me, and my
dick sometimes almost entering, and her moving away when it happened.
After a few more minutes of this, she said "condom", but I told her to
wait, and continued grinding, trying to arouse her a bit too. A few
minutes after that my dick entered her without any objections, and I
also came inside her without any objections.

Unlike the Emporivm girl, who was shocked/surprised when I did that,
and I had to calm her down by telling her I'd had a vasectomy, so not
to worry, the Classic girl did not react, and no explanation was needed.

After finishing, it was obviously time to leave, unlike the Emporivm
girl who seemed to expect that we lay in bed until time was up.

Anyway, service was good, girl was friendly, and I don't know if I got
extra good service or not with the BBFSCIM, but I tipped her 100,000,
which seemed to be enough based on her reaction.


Next day, Saturday, I again went to Classic, arriving there around 17:30.
I was beset on by another mamasan, showing me her herd. There were no-one
amongst her 10-12 girls I was shown that I thought were pretty enough,
so I moved to another area, and another mamasan repeated the procedure
with her herd.

I thought there was here one or two who I might want to bang, if nobody
better, but even they were no more than a weak 7 to me, so I again
moved to another area, which happened to be the area of the mamasan from
yesterday, Cha-Cha. She remembered me, and this time also introduced
herself. She then introduced her herd again, and I noticed L from
yesterday too.

I hadn't planned on taking L again, as I wanted a different girl for
variation, but sad fact is she was the most pretty. She could see I
wasn't planning on taking her, so just smiled and laughed a bit when
mamasan apparently remembered I took her yesterday, and tried to bring
her forward to me, hoping I'd take her again.

Anyway, L came up to me and we exchanged hello's. I was a bit unsure
about what to do. Yes, she was the most pretty one, but I didn't want
to take the same p4p girl twice in a row as it's a bit boring for me.

I had been thinking a bit about threesomes earlier today. The mamasans
at Classic are really pushing taking two girls.

I know any lesbian action will be virtually impossible, but even
without that, I imagine a random threesome will for sure involve a lot
of condom changes and tissue wipes for junior, which will of course ruin
the experience, as for many other brothers here, and I will be left with
thinking I should have taken just one girl.

But, being unsure about taking L again, or looking at more girls, I
started talking with her if she had any good friend amongst her group
of girls. After a bit back and forth she understood what I meant, and
pointed at a girl. I was not sure which one she meant as there were
about 15 girls sitting closely together, so she asked her friend to come
up to us. I'd rate her friend as a 6, so told L "no", and she sent her
friend back. I asked L what about girl X, a girl who I liked quite
a bit more. L was not sure who I meant, but mamasan could understand,
and brought the girl up to us.

I asked L, "what about this girl" as X was coming down, but L said she
did not know that girl. L and mamasan exchanged some words, not sure
what. I think I'm a decent judge of communication and body language,
even when I don't understand a word that was said, so when L said it was
up to me while laughing, it did not feel like she was being pressured
to do this by mamasan, but that in truth she did not know this girl
well and it would probably be a bit akward.


My instinct was however that this would then probably end up with a
lot of condom swapping and tissue cleaning between two girls that were
not friends. So I told mamasan to send X back, and again asked
L what other girl she liked. She again pointed to her 6' friend, again
talking with her and her getting up. Her 6' friend was frowning at us
quite a bit, but L indicated she smiles a lot and it was her best friend.

Well, I could not see much smiling, but L insisted the 6 was a happy
girl, so I thought perhaps the 6 is the type of girl who frowns more
than she smiles and laughs, which turned out to be true. In the end I
said to L ok, we go with your friend. I was thinking a good experience
with L and her 6 friend was better than a condom swapping tissue wiping
experience between L and X (who I'd rate slightly below L in looks).

I then paid mamasan just 150,000 more for two girls than for one girl
(total of 500,000, as I've read in other reports). That's really a
bargain compared to Thailand, were two girls are simply the price of one
girl multiplied by two.

In the room, while the other girl was showering and could not see, L
brought up two condoms, showing me we should use them, but I just turned
my head side to side for a no while laughing. She repeated this a few
times and I said no in various semi humorous ways, took the condoms out
of her hand and hid them under the towel.

When her friend came out of the shower L started a conversation with
her friend about this. I of course understood nothing of the words,
but it was pretty clear L was telling her friend I did not want to use
condoms, and her friend being a bit pissed about this, and L convincing
her friend to not use condoms.

I had been trying to get L's friend to warm up a bit up until now, and
pulled her down on the bed next to me, while I pulled L's head down on
my dick. I then started fondling L's friend (lets call her 6), while L
was sucking my dick. After a while I indicated for L and the 6 to swap
positions, which involved a little bit of tissue wiping which I quickly
stopped, pushing my dick into 6's mouth, while fondling L. L and
6 then swapped positions a few times, with me in a laughing way
throwing away any tissue they wanted to wipe junior with when
changing positions.

A bit later I pulled L on top of me and entered her pussy, while I pulled
6 next to me on the bed. After fucking L for a while with her on top
of me, I pulled L of, and entered 6, fucking her. At this point I was a
happy camper, and swapping back and forth between L and 6 was no problem.

I tried to get L to suck my dick after pulling out of 6, but that was
no go unfortunately. Same with pulling out of L and putting my dick in
6's mouth: no go, had to wash in shower first.

But ok, I could at least swap pussys without problems, which was the
most important thing, and enough to make me a happy camper.

In the end I finished in 6, which she was not happy about, and I then had
to explain to them both about the vasectomy. The 6 did not understand
my explanation it seemed, so L then explained it to her in Indonesian.

I was planning on fucking them both again, this time finishing in L.
The girls were ok about this, but I guess old age is starting to catch
up with me, and I would have needed more than the 60 minutes allotted me
for Junior to get ready again.

Anyway, the experience was really good for me, being able to
fuck them both without any condom swapping. I'm pretty sure
this was due to L persuading her friend, so in the end I tipped
L's friend 100,000, and L herself 200,000.

A few hours later I met a girl from online dating at shopping mall, but
she did not want to go to bed with me, so when back I instead went to
Emporivm, where I again fucked the girl from my first night. I had
brought with me some K-Y as I planned to finish in her pussy once,
and then try to do anal with her as an encore, but unfortunately it
seems I'm still struggling to adapt expectations to my new reality.
After finishing in her pussy again, junior did not wake up for a second
session withing the 90 minutes allotted.

Tomorrow/Sunday will be my last day here, as Monday I'm going back to
Bangkok for another month.

I'll probably go to Classic again around 5pm as today. I asked L
if she had other friends, and she said she had four good friends.
I think it will be a bit boring for Junior if I take L three days in
a row, even with a friend, so will probably try to find another girl.
When exiting with L and 6 today, I did notice there were more girls at
18:30 then when I arrived at around 17:30, and I saw some I liked.

For the evening, unless I happen to meet a regular girl via online dating,
I'm not sure if I'll go to Emporivm again, or Classic a second time in
the same day. Or maybe just work.

[Goferring]

I was planning on fucking them both again, this time finishing in L.
The girls were ok about this, but I guess old age is starting to catch
up with me, and I would have needed more than the 60 minutes allotted me
for Junior to get ready again.

A great report!!

Just so I'm clear, does the two-fer deal at Classic and Travel include two shots in the hour? My understanding was girl 2 came at a discount but only one shot was included.

Sounds like you got a great deal.

Cheers. G.

[Plant Smoke]

So it has been awhile for me. More than 10 years ago I went to Kota Indah? There was a club there that also had a location in kelapa gading as well. They were like a chain business at the time.

Could that club have been sari ayu? If it was, is sari ayu still located in kelapa gading?

What would be a list of bars / spots you would go to in kelapa gading aside from the following:

1. kings cross.

2. the' Heaven.

[NoGermaphobe]

Sumo is also in the same Kelapa Gading complex as King Cross. It's also a high end spa where you can get full service.

The bar you are thinking of is MTR2. The prices are more expensive there though. I believe around the 550 K range and I am pretty sure it has different owners now and is not affiliated with MTR any longer. But the setup is similar to what you would see in the KI places although with less ladies.

There is also another Spa in the complex called Vermouth where you can get a massage and full service. I don't think there is a the'heaven there. But there is a Delta Spa for a regular massage.

Just north of the King Cross complex is another complex that I believe has several spas that specialize in BJs. I can't recall all of their names. But one spa is named Blitz. I think there is a Glow Inc branch close to the Blitz as well.


So it has been awhile for me. More than 10 years ago I went to Kota Indah? There was a club there that also had a location in kelapa gading as well. They were like a chain business at the time.

Could that club have been sari ayu? If it was, is sari ayu still located in kelapa gading?

What would be a list of bars / spots you would go to in kelapa gading aside from the following:

1. kings cross.

2. the' Heaven.

[Werqweq]

A great report!!

Just so I'm clear, does the two-fer deal at Classic and Travel include two shots in the hour? My understanding was girl 2 came at a discount but only one shot was included.

Sounds like you got a great deal.

Cheers. G.Thanks. It's only one shot I believe. I think they get the condoms from management, so two girls, two condoms, and you can swap girls once, while also swapping condoms at the same time.

However, as always, the more the girl tolerates you, the better the experience, especially when a tip is included. I had tipped L 100,000 the day before, which I guessed is an ok tip for good service, but anyone with more Jakarta-experience please correct me if I'm wrong. She was GF-like enough to not mention anything about extra money, but I'm sure she expected there to be a decent tip for good service today also, which I'm sure was the reason for her minor arguments with her friend about condoms and sex twice.

L asked me at the beginning, while holding up the two condoms if I wanted to finish once or twice, and I tried to indicate once in 6, once in L. She laughed a bit about this, asking me if I was that strong, to which I responded not sure, will see. One or two times. She and 6 then had some minor argument about this, but it was all friendly, and it was at this time I found out that 6 was simply the type of girl who frowns a lot more than she smiles, even though she's a good enough sport when it comes to actually doing things. In the end, even though L on my request tried to wake up junior with a BJ for round two (after forcing me to wash him in the shower since I had been fucking 6 last), it was a no go due to my own fault.

6 and L were obviously good friends and were chatting and laughing a lot. I could force them playfully to some minor girl-girl interaction, but it was limited to them rubbing each others pussy or breasts in a playful manner, one girl smacking the ass of the girl I was fucking from behind, etc. They made sure to do all of that in a joking manner so there could be no confusion they were actually into each others in a lesbian way, and L a couple of times also said "no lesbian" while laughing.

Like I said, I also did have a fantasy of fucking one girl in the pussy, then the other girl in the mouth, and swapping back and forth a bit like that, but that was a definite no go, joking or not unfortunately. As I'm writing this I'm thinking if I had offered up an extra tip for that there and then, maybe they'd go for it. I however did not think about it at the time as I was happy enough swapping pussys back and forth freely.

[Zippos]

Thanks ZachyBoy for detailed explanation. I did ran into similar issues where meaning changes and differs from region to region. I do have local friends whom I hangout with once or twice per trip but due to timing and their family commitments, doesn't really happens every day. For the shits and giggle, I might try the jumping without parachute.


Hi Zippos,

Not sure you will get what you looking for. Indo is a very diverse and Muslim country; they don't have the exact Bahasa for the above. Slang is different for every district or people who come from different backgrounds. Slang words for girls who come from Bandung will be different from the girls who come from Manado. For example, Make Love is 'Ngewe' or 'Ngentot' or 'Naek', or 'Maen', but 'Maen' is the same word that the locals use for playing 'Main'.

BBFS, is 'engga pake kondom' or if you translate it back to English means No condom. But like I said, the local might say 'terjun bebas' which is doesn't make sense if you translate it back to English.

Because 'terjun bebas' is jumping without parachute.

That's the first challenge, the other challenge is even if you know the word, you still can't pronounce it like a local does. If let's say you can, they still know that you are a blue / foreigner from your appearance and treat you as a non-local resident. My suggestion is to organise meet up with locals, organise / invite them as a tour guide. They will open a lot of doors for you.

[Zippos]

Hey G,

In reality, if you can pop 2 x within the allotted time, 2 it is given girl is friendly and willing to go extra mile for some extra tip. I usually tip 100-200/ girl depending on her willingness and performance and they would always ask if I want to go second time or add more time. Never had an issue with that. I will clarify with Mama and my buddy there next month when I am in classic.


A great report!!

Just so I'm clear, does the two-fer deal at Classic and Travel include two shots in the hour? My understanding was girl 2 came at a discount but only one shot was included.

Sounds like you got a great deal.

Cheers. G.

[Zippos]

Just a suggestion, perhaps buy more time on your next trip to full-fill your fantasies. Extra always comes handy for a fraction of price.


Thanks. It's only one shot I believe. I think they get the condoms from management, so two girls, two condoms, and you can swap girls once, while also swapping condoms at the same time.

However, as always, the more the girl tolerates you, the better the experience, especially when a tip is included. I had tipped L 100,000 the day before, which I guessed is an ok tip for good service, but anyone with more Jakarta-experience please correct me if I'm wrong. She was GF-like enough to not mention anything about extra money, but I'm sure she expected there to be a decent tip for good service today also, which I'm sure was the reason for her minor arguments with her friend about condoms and sex twice.

L asked me at the beginning, while holding up the two condoms if I wanted to finish once or twice, and I tried to indicate once in 6, once in L. She laughed a bit about this, asking me if I was that strong, to which I responded not sure, will see. One or two times. She and 6 then had some minor argument about this, but it was all friendly, and it was at this time I found out that 6 was simply the type of girl who frowns a lot more than she smiles, even though she's a good enough sport when it comes to actually doing things. In the end, even though L on my request tried to wake up junior with a BJ for round two (after forcing me to wash him in the shower since I had been fucking 6 last), it was a no go due to my own fault.

6 and L were obviously good friends and were chatting and laughing a lot. I could force them playfully to some minor girl-girl interaction, but it was limited to them rubbing each others pussy or breasts in a playful manner, one girl smacking the ass of the girl I was fucking from behind, etc. They made sure to do all of that in a joking manner so there could be no confusion they were actually into each others in a lesbian way, and L a couple of times also said "no lesbian" while laughing.

Like I said, I also did have a fantasy of fucking one girl in the pussy, then the other girl in the mouth, and swapping back and forth a bit like that, but that was a definite no go, joking or not unfortunately. As I'm writing this I'm thinking if I had offered up an extra tip for that there and then, maybe they'd go for it. I however did not think about it at the time as I was happy enough swapping pussys back and forth freely.

[SuperLove]

Most girls survive on tips and that's what keeps them going. I believe if you get good service tip them well, helps the next monger as well. I believe each girl needs to do 5-6 sessions a day, so they make about 300 k that's nothing.


Thanks. It's only one shot I believe. I think they get the condoms from management, so two girls, two condoms, and you can swap girls once, while also swapping condoms at the same time.

However, as always, the more the girl tolerates you, the better the experience, especially when a tip is included. I had tipped L 100,000 the day before, which I guessed is an ok tip for good service, but anyone with more Jakarta-experience please correct me if I'm wrong. She was GF-like enough to not mention anything about extra money, but I'm sure she expected there to be a decent tip for good service today also, which I'm sure was the reason for her minor arguments with her friend about condoms and sex twice.

L asked me at the beginning, while holding up the two condoms if I wanted to finish once or twice, and I tried to indicate once in 6, once in L. She laughed a bit about this, asking me if I was that strong, to which I responded not sure, will see. One or two times. She and 6 then had some minor argument about this, but it was all friendly, and it was at this time I found out that 6 was simply the type of girl who frowns a lot more than she smiles, even though she's a good enough sport when it comes to actually doing things. In the end, even though L on my request tried to wake up junior with a BJ for round two (after forcing me to wash him in the shower since I had been fucking 6 last), it was a no go due to my own fault.

6 and L were obviously good friends and were chatting and laughing a lot. I could force them playfully to some minor girl-girl interaction, but it was limited to them rubbing each others pussy or breasts in a playful manner, one girl smacking the ass of the girl I was fucking from behind, etc. They made sure to do all of that in a joking manner so there could be no confusion they were actually into each others in a lesbian way, and L a couple of times also said "no lesbian" while laughing.

Like I said, I also did have a fantasy of fucking one girl in the pussy, then the other girl in the mouth, and swapping back and forth a bit like that, but that was a definite no go, joking or not unfortunately. As I'm writing this I'm thinking if I had offered up an extra tip for that there and then, maybe they'd go for it. I however did not think about it at the time as I was happy enough swapping pussys back and forth freely.

[LoveItHere69]

First off I finally got hit by a motorcycle. Facing 2 lanes of traffic trying to cross to the median so I can then cross the other 2 lanes. Motorcycle going along the side of the street going the wrong way can see me because he is behind me. I see an opeing and start to cross at the same time he reaches me and tries to go around me which puts him in my path to cross. He hits me and he and his motorcycle fall over. No damage to either of us or the motorcycle. A few guys nearby start to get a little close. The guy on the bike is mad but the others seem to feel that it was his fault so do not get involved (luckily). I try to cross again and he zooms his bike in front blocking me 2 times. I get angry telling him he fucked up. I cross and take a scenic route in case he gets any buddies nearby.

FYI I have not been showing the time on my phone or talking about shorted time to the cleaning crew of Classic and have had no more issues.

Mama Cha Cha (light brown / dark blnde hair) gave me new girl and she was pretty and friendly as we talked for a few minutes. Mama went to get the condom and room number. My girl got a mirror out of her bag and was checking herself out in the dark main room. Weird. Get to the bedroom and she takes off her shoes and mentions BJ. I said no need. Not my thing. She then brought it up 2 more times and I told her it is nearly impossible for me to cum that way so I bypass most times. Bad vibe begins. I start stripping. I have my not tight but not super baggy boxer shorts on. She says I am big and I show her my little finger and say no. She again says it is big. She has not even seen it and I am not hard. FYI I am not a big guy and my junk matches my size. Huge bad omen which always results in girls complaining after just 5-10 minutes of pain. She takes her mirror out of her bag and admires herself again as I jump into the shower. Bad mojo. I take a quick shower. Get out and she mentions BJ yet again. SOB! I dry off quickly. She has not taken any clothes off. WTFFFFF! The witch must think she will give me a BJ with her clothes on and jet out the door or something. She may be new to Classic but she has lots of experience in trying to give the least amount of service possible because she thinks she is a Princess. She was not new to the game what-so-ever. I grab my clothes and get dressed and out the door. Tell mama about the stupid witch. She gets me a new girl who was great. No extra fee. Just change of girls.

I wish I could have seen her walk of shame. I took many girls there with few problems. So the cleaning crew probably asked her what happened, then the girls she sits with asked her the same, and lastly the mama. Haha.

[JohnIsFun]

Thanks. It's only one shot I believe. I think they get the condoms from management, so two girls, two condoms, and you can swap girls once, while also swapping condoms at the same time.

However, as always, the more the girl tolerates you, the better the experience, especially when a tip is included. I had tipped L 100,000 the day before, which I guessed is an ok tip for good service, but anyone with more Jakarta-experience please correct me if I'm wrong. She was GF-like enough to not mention anything about extra money, but I'm sure she expected there to be a decent tip for good service today also, which I'm sure was the reason for her minor arguments with her friend about condoms and sex twice.

L asked me at the beginning, while holding up the two condoms if I wanted to finish once or twice, and I tried to indicate once in 6, once in L. She laughed a bit about this, asking me if I was that strong, to which I responded not sure, will see. One or two times. She and 6 then had some minor argument about this, but it was all friendly, and it was at this time I found out that 6 was simply the type of girl who frowns a lot more than she smiles, even though she's a good enough sport when it comes to actually doing things. In the end, even though L on my request tried to wake up junior with a BJ for round two (after forcing me to wash him in the shower since I had been fucking 6 last), it was a no go due to my own fault.

6 and L were obviously good friends and were chatting and laughing a lot. I could force them playfully to some minor girl-girl interaction, but it was limited to them rubbing each others pussy or breasts in a playful manner, one girl smacking the ass of the girl I was fucking from behind, etc. They made sure to do all of that in a joking manner so there could be no confusion they were actually into each others in a lesbian way, and L a couple of times also said "no lesbian" while laughing.

Like I said, I also did have a fantasy of fucking one girl in the pussy, then the other girl in the mouth, and swapping back and forth a bit like that, but that was a definite no go, joking or not unfortunately. As I'm writing this I'm thinking if I had offered up an extra tip for that there and then, maybe they'd go for it. I however did not think about it at the time as I was happy enough swapping pussys back and forth freely.It seems you may have got the two girls I also had. The friend was she a smaller young girl. I was only there for couple of days and managed to only get to classic twice. First time was single girl on the first night after a 9 hour flight. The second time I went there to try the double. Unfortunately I also asked the first girl.

To pick a friend which was a mistake. I should have clarified with the second girl on what I like. So this girl was not cooperative. Did not want to kiss, did not give blow job. She had a very tight pussy though and nice small firm boobs. I had taken my own condom and pplaced all four the table. They took two and placed in their bag. The other two opened and placed between the paper towel which was dipped in mouth wash. They also wiped my dick with the same mouth wash. The first girl was great and kissed, gave a decent blow job and allowed me to fuck her also. They did not object to the second round.

I think I read in one of the other reports of you take two girls the time is 90 min. Not sure of this was the case. But it was still fun having two girls. But the one choose did not perform like we see in the porns. Maybe I will have better luck next time.

[Werqweq]

Tomorrow/Sunday will be my last day here, as Monday I'm going back to
Bangkok for another month.

I'll probably go to Classic again around 5pm as today. I asked L
if she had other friends, and she said she had four good friends.
I think it will be a bit boring for Junior if I take L three days in
a row, even with a friend, so will probably try to find another girl.
When exiting with L and 6 today, I did notice there were more girls at
18:30 then when I arrived at around 17:30, and I saw some I liked.

For the evening, unless I happen to meet a regular girl via online dating,
I'm not sure if I'll go to Emporivm again, or Classic a second time in
the same day. Or maybe just work.To follow up on that, this afternoon I had a surprise date with a tinder girl (online dating app) who in all her tinder photos were wearing a hijab. When I first started checking out tinder / bumble here in Jakarta I saw that a lot, perhaps even a majority, of the girls are wearing those hijabs. Apart from not being able to see much of their body type, I've been a bit uncertain about whether there's any point in trying to even match with them, or whether Allah will prevent them from having any interest in meeting an infidel like me. So mostly I've been swiping "no" on them, but occasionally there's been one with a face cute enough for me to by accident swipe "yes".

Let me for other ignorant infidels like me confirm that it does not seem to mean all that much whether the girl is posing in hijab in all her photos or not, as we met at 1 pm, and at 2:40 pm (I had to keep track of time as she said she had to leave for work at 3 pm) I was banging her in my room. Supposedly I was the first infidel to bang her (believe it or not. I'm not sure, but maybe?), and the experience, for her at least, was so magnificent that she did not want to leave until I'd finished banging her a second time at 3:30.

So: hijab is apparently not the red flag I imagined, and I might have been wrong to swipe "no" on a lot of hijab-babes who would otherwise have been happy to experience some love from a visiting infidel.

For others staying in the area of Redtop / Emporivm / Classic and into dating apps, this area is apparently called "Jakarta Pusat", as that's what everyone you're talking with will ask you about to find out whereabouts you are staying.

[Expat American]

Anyway, the experience was really good for me, being able to
fuck them both without any condom swapping. I'm pretty sure
this was due to L persuading her friend, so in the end I tipped
L's friend 100,000, and L herself 200,000.

Well played. This is exactly how I got great BBFS swapping with two girls in Classic my very first trip to Jakarta. The key is to keep good humor and also take control. Its a delicate balance but if done well you will get a 80 to 90% success rate. Some girls may be firmly adamant on the condom but it will be a small minority, especially in classic when offered a reasonable tip.

[Plant Smoke]

Wow NoGermphobe; thanks alot for helping me out. Ok 10 years ago I went to kings cross and then a couple hours later to what you say is / was MTR2. But MTR2, as I remember was not in the same complex as kings cross. Also MTR2 had no fish bowl, was more like a bar in the normal sense. I had a pretty good time at MTR2. I sure would like to know what MTR2 is called now and its location?

I mispelled the' Heaven. Is that in Kelapa Gading as well?

It was a laborius hour journey on motorbike to kelapa gading; any hotels in kelapa gading you would recommend? Thanks a bunch.

[Werqweq]

After banging this hijab girl in the afternoon, I wasn't sure about what
I'd do in the evening.

I saw Expat American's recommendation of a Japanese steak house on the
second floor of Citiwalk Gaja Meda mall, so thought I'd go there after
finishing in the gym at Redtop hotel around 7 pm, but Google indicated
that mall closes at 7pm, so no go.

For those who enjoy a daily workout, I can recommend Redtop hotel btw. Gym
is as good as a low-end standalone gym, which is of course pretty good as
far as hotel gyms are concerned. Pool is also long enough for swimming
laps (around 20m I guess), and pretty empty most of the time.

Next up was Banana Boi's Holy Cow steak house, walking distance from
Redtop, and not far from Classic, so thought that sounded like a good
alternative, and I could drop by Classic on the way back if I wanted.

I agree with Banana Boi. My steak was cooked perfectly (medium raw),
and quality was decent. 255,000 for 400g of decent quality striploin,
so no complaints. Not sure if prices here are cheaper or more expensive
than Bangkok. My gut feeling it's the latter, but I haven't really
quantified it.

Hijab girl from earlier today messaged me while I was at Holy Cow,
as she had previously wanted to come over after work. She wanted to
come over and spend the night after finishing work, but she's not so hot
that junior would enjoy banging her a third time the same day, so I had
politely indicated while she was here that I could not. She was obviously
hoping I would change my mind, but alas, I was not in the mood for that.

Instead I slowly walked over to Classic after my dinner, got a bracelet
to keep around my arm and later pay 5,000 for, and entered the dimly
lit club. I entered around 9pm, and I'd say it's not the best time.
Some girls were half a sleep, mamasan Cha-Cha I could not see, and
instead I was set upon by a gaggle of other mamasans, one more annoying
than the other. At least this Sunday night at 9pm, the mood in the club
was rather sleepy. Better the other two days when I was there around
6 pm.

I rotated myself from spot to spot to have a look at all the girls,
each time being beset upon by the annoying mamasan guarding that
particular flock. I saw L again too, but she was too busy chewing on
a chicken bone to notice me in the dark. Her herd was rather thin at
the moment, with just 6-7 girls, and I could not see any mamasan to herd
them up in a standing position for me to have a better look at either.
Never mind that however, as I could easily see that apart from L, which
I would certainly not take for a third day in a row, there were nobody
there attractive to me.

I even did the round twice, and hung around for a bit, but could not
see anyone I liked enough to want to bang at the moment, so I went up to
the cashier, paid my 5,000, got some piece of wood to give the doormen
so they would not beat me up upon leaving, and exited the club.

On the ground floor of Classic there is another place, right by the
entrance. You can hear the music pumping. I've read some reports here
indicating it may possibly be a rip-off place, but the reports were
uncertain. I was therefor a bit wary, but went up to the reception
and asked what the price to enter was, and the girl pointed at the sign
directly in front of me saying 30,000. So 6 times the price of entering
two floors up.

I was not sure what kind of place this was, and asked the doorman if
it was the same type of place as upstairs, to which he indicated yes,
as I'm sure he would do if it was a rip-off joint too.

Anyway, I thought I'd enter and if nothing else, I could warn off other
brothers if indeed it was a rip-off joint, so I indicated I wanted
to enter, and got the same type of bracelet around my arm.

Upon entering I saw that the place is similar to the place upstairs
indeed, but a tiny bit more classy perhaps? Like flying coach, but
getting metal utensils with your food, rather than one-time plastic utensils
perhaps?

There was also some crappy live band playing crappy music, and a
group of annoying Chinese entered, displaying their uncouth manners.
Including one particular young idiot, who appeared to be treating his friends
to a girl each, putting his hand down every possibly candidate's bra to check
if her bra was padded and how big her breasts were.

The organization on this floor is more effective however, with all
the girls sitting in one location, and one or two mamasans handling
all of them. Mamasan told me the price was either 600,000 or 650,000,
depending on the girl. No idea what differentiates the girls.
For the price you get one hour, one shot. Like upstairs.

The mamasans here are laid back and not annoying and pushy like upstairs,
which is good, so you can just sit by yourself and have look while
enjoying a drink (I did not order anything, and that was fine too).

The mamasan all use some laser pen that they shine into the girls face
to indicate what girl they want to stand up however, which annoys the
girls every time and you can almost hear them swearing, even with no
sound or understanding of the language.

I was having some trouble understanding why the girls here cost twice as
much as upstairs. Upstairs at that time there were around 50-60 girls
I'd guess, and downstairs here around 30-40. After looking for a while,
I guess I'd agree the quality was on average perhaps slightly better, but
I'd not start a fight with anyone saying there is no difference between
the girls here and upstairs. I'm thinking if I'm going to pay double,
the difference should be pretty obvious, but to me it was very slight.

You can call for a lineup, which will bring all the girls up in front
of you in groups of 10-15 at a time. I did not ask for that, but other
guys did a few times while I was there, so I moved over to look when
that happened. I didn't notice anyone I wanted to bang all that much
in the beginning, but after a while I did notice on girl. Perhaps because
she was not bothering to join the multiple line-ups.

She did not want to make eye contact with me, nor get up for most of
the lineups, though she did get up once or twice and I thought, ok,
I'll go with her. Alas, it was not to be.

I asked mamasan a bit about the girl (age, baby or no baby), and then
told mamasan I'd like to talk with her. At that same time a new lineup
was called, and that girl also joined, walking over to the other side
of the club. Mamasan exchanged some words with the girl as she was
walking past us. What they said I do not know, but mamasan said the girl
was scared of me. I'm not sure if she meant scared of how ugly I was,
or of the huge dick she could perhaps see through my pants with her
x-ray vision, but mamasan was positive it was the latter and not the
former.

I suggested mamasan talk a bit with the girl, and that my dick was
rather small and it would not be a problem, while I hung around waiting.

Unfortunately it ended with mamasan telling me the girl was scared and did
not want to go with me, and that she could not force her (a good thing,
that, of course). But mamasan had many other girls I could choose from,
why I not choose someone else? Had I not banged hijab girl
twice that day already, I would probably have chosen another girl,
as there were one or two other girls there I thought also looked ok,
but I was not in the mood. Instead I went up to the cashier, paid my
30,000, and got a similar piece of wood to show the doormen upon exit.
So no problems experienced.


I could have walked over to Emporivm then, but it was already 10 pm, so
it would apparently be too late for me to combine banging a girl there
with relaxing half an hour in the pool first (as was the case yesterday
too, to my sad surprise), and I was too tired to spend around 1.5M, +/-,
with the tip included, to just bang a girl there. I'd probably have
gone over if I could have relaxed in the pool too. Not sure what time
it closes, but the girl yesterday, when we went to the room at 10:30,
said the pool was closed already, but did not know when.

Instead I just went back to Redtop and wrote this undoubtedly interesting
fieldreport. :-/

[Werqweq]

Just a suggestion, perhaps buy more time on your next trip to full-fill your fantasies. Extra always comes handy for a fraction of price.How does that work? AFAIK, two hours is double the price of one hour, or? At least that is what I was told by the mamasan.

Or do you mean the girls themselves will handle it some way? While they were joking around a bit and putting on their makeup the "get out" phone started to ring also, so not really sure what they could do.