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NRandom940
08-04-24, 18:00
To follow up on that, this afternoon I had a surprise date with a tinder girl (online dating app) who in all her tinder photos were wearing a hijab. When I first started checking out tinder / bumble here in Jakarta I saw that a lot, perhaps even a majority, of the girls are wearing those hijabs. Apart from not being able to see much of their body type, I've been a bit uncertain about whether there's any point in trying to even match with them, or whether Allah will prevent them from having any interest in meeting an infidel like me. So mostly I've been swiping "no" on them, but occasionally there's been one with a face cute enough for me to by accident swipe "yes".
Let me for other ignorant infidels like me confirm that it does not seem to mean all that much whether the girl is posing in hijab in all her photos or not, as we met at 1 pm, and at 2:40 pm (I had to keep track of time as she said she had to leave for work at 3 pm) I was banging her in my room. Supposedly I was the first infidel to bang her (believe it or not. I'm not sure, but maybe?), and the experience, for her at least, was so magnificent that she did not want to leave until I'd finished banging her a second time at 3:30.
So: hijab is apparently not the red flag I imagined, and I might have been wrong to swipe "no" on a lot of hijab-babes who would otherwise have been happy to experience some love from a visiting infidel.
For others staying in the area of Redtop / Emporivm / Classic and into dating apps, this area is apparently called "Jakarta Pusat", as that's what everyone you're talking with will ask you about to find out whereabouts you are staying.Did you pay hijab girl? Did you lead with that, or did you frame it more as a normal date initially?
It seems you may have got the two girls I also had. The friend was she a smaller young girl. I was only there for couple of days and managed to only get to classic twice. First time was single girl on the first night after a 9 hour flight. The second time I went there to try the double. Unfortunately I also asked the first girl.
To pick a friend which was a mistake. I should have clarified with the second girl on what I like. So this girl was not cooperative. Did not want to kiss, did not give blow job. She had a very tight pussy though and nice small firm boobs. I had taken my own condom and pplaced all four the table. They took two and placed in their bag. The other two opened and placed between the paper towel which was dipped in mouth wash. They also wiped my dick with the same mouth wash. The first girl was great and kissed, gave a decent blow job and allowed me to fuck her also. They did not object to the second round.
I think I read in one of the other reports of you take two girls the time is 90 min. Not sure of this was the case. But it was still fun having two girls. But the one choose did not perform like we see in the porns. Maybe I will have better luck next time.
Not sure. If you remember their names, you can message me, and I can confirm.
The friend was indeed a smaller girl, but not younger. I think mamasan said L was 23. I did not ask what age 6 was, but based on looks it would be the same IMO, +/- one year. Also, if what L said is true (not sure), she started working there a month ago. May or may not be true, as she later said she and her friend had had many threesomes. Not sure how many threesome a girl there would normally have in a month.
I suspect you had bad luck, and IMO, unless the friend is too ugly (e.g, , had she been a 5), it's better to let your girl pick her own friend. But I think you kind of need to have fucked at least one of the girls first and built some rapport. Even better if you've fucked both of course.
And like in a porn? No, I was not expecting that, so therefor I was also not disappointed. They'd have to be bona fide lesbians, or at least bisexuals, for that I suspect. There was one guy on the Thailand forum before who had some luck with that, by getting to know which girls actually liked having sex with other girls, and then arranging it that way.
AFAIK, it's the same time regardless of number of girls, and indeed the phone started ringing after one hour.
Motorcycle in Asia are literally hell on wheels to me. They are a risk to them and to others. One of the reason why I pretty much never walk on the streets except going to the dolarindo from classic or alfamart. Thankfully you were unharmed. Which would've been a different level of disaster on your sexpedition.
In regards to dumping the Blair witch, great work. Others should learn from this. These girls definitely needs to be put in to their places. Two thumbs up for you.
First off I finally got hit by a motorcycle. Facing 2 lanes of traffic trying to cross to the median so I can then cross the other 2 lanes. Motorcycle going along the side of the street going the wrong way can see me because he is behind me. I see an opeing and start to cross at the same time he reaches me and tries to go around me which puts him in my path to cross. He hits me and he and his motorcycle fall over. No damage to either of us or the motorcycle. A few guys nearby start to get a little close. The guy on the bike is mad but the others seem to feel that it was his fault so do not get involved (luckily). I try to cross again and he zooms his bike in front blocking me 2 times. I get angry telling him he fucked up. I cross and take a scenic route in case he gets any buddies nearby.
FYI I have not been showing the time on my phone or talking about shorted time to the cleaning crew of Classic and have had no more issues.
Mama Cha Cha (light brown / dark blnde hair) gave me new girl and she was pretty and friendly as we talked for a few minutes. Mama went to get the condom and room number. My girl got a mirror out of her bag and was checking herself out in the dark main room. Weird. Get to the bedroom and she takes off her shoes and mentions BJ. I said no need. Not my thing. She then brought it up 2 more times and I told her it is nearly impossible for me to cum that way so I bypass most times. Bad vibe begins. I start stripping. I have my not tight but not super baggy boxer shorts on. She says I am big and I show her my little finger and say no. She again says it is big. She has not even seen it and I am not hard. FYI I am not a big guy and my junk matches my size. Huge bad omen which always results in girls complaining after just 5-10 minutes of pain. She takes her mirror out of her bag and admires herself again as I jump into the shower. Bad mojo. I take a quick shower. Get out and she mentions BJ yet again. SOB! I dry off quickly. She has not taken any clothes off. WTFFFFF! The witch must think she will give me a BJ with her clothes on and jet out the door or something. She may be new to Classic but she has lots of experience in trying to give the least amount of service possible because she thinks she is a Princess. She was not new to the game what-so-ever. I grab my clothes and get dressed and out the door. Tell mama about the stupid witch. She gets me a new girl who was great. No extra fee. Just change of girls.
I wish I could have seen her walk of shame. I took many girls there with few problems. So the cleaning crew probably asked her what happened, then the girls she sits with asked her the same, and lastly the mama. Haha.
Picking a friend is not a mistake because you want both of them to be cooperative in action. It gets awkward for both if they are not comfortable with each other but yes, all the terms and conditions needs to be clarified and agreed before payment.
I don't think anyone of us ever have or will see porn type girls action at places like classic. Sure, I have seen some action in Maasage / Spa where girls are already paired for twin massage packages and sits together and hangs out together while waiting for clients. Perhaps explore that alley next time.
It seems you may have got the two girls I also had. The friend was she a smaller young girl. I was only there for couple of days and managed to only get to classic twice. First time was single girl on the first night after a 9 hour flight. The second time I went there to try the double. Unfortunately I also asked the first girl.
To pick a friend which was a mistake. I should have clarified with the second girl on what I like. So this girl was not cooperative. Did not want to kiss, did not give blow job. She had a very tight pussy though and nice small firm boobs. I had taken my own condom and pplaced all four the table. They took two and placed in their bag. The other two opened and placed between the paper towel which was dipped in mouth wash. They also wiped my dick with the same mouth wash. The first girl was great and kissed, gave a decent blow job and allowed me to fuck her also. They did not object to the second round.
I think I read in one of the other reports of you take two girls the time is 90 min. Not sure of this was the case. But it was still fun having two girls. But the one choose did not perform like we see in the porns. Maybe I will have better luck next time.
Indeed it was interesting to know more about bunker. Don't ask me where that name bunker was invented because I don't know. I agree 100% with you on girls standard / quality compared to terminal 2. I've been there handful of times and I think only reason they are still alive is because any newbie PRC contributors walks straight in upon entering the building. To me, it's simply a punters trap. Yes they do move those spa girls after it closes but then if you decide to compare dollar for a dollar, you still would find similar value in terminal 2 for half the price. End of the day, I would still venture to terminal 2 and deal with smaller losses if my girl turns out to be a starfish.
Great report on bunker 😁.
After banging this hijab girl in the afternoon, I wasn't sure about what
I'd do in the evening.
I saw Expat American's recommendation of a Japanese steak house on the
second floor of Citiwalk Gaja Meda mall, so thought I'd go there after
finishing in the gym at Redtop hotel around 7 pm, but Google indicated
that mall closes at 7pm, so no go.
For those who enjoy a daily workout, I can recommend Redtop hotel btw. Gym
is as good as a low-end standalone gym, which is of course pretty good as
far as hotel gyms are concerned. Pool is also long enough for swimming
laps (around 20m I guess), and pretty empty most of the time.
Next up was Banana Boi's Holy Cow steak house, walking distance from
Redtop, and not far from Classic, so thought that sounded like a good
alternative, and I could drop by Classic on the way back if I wanted.
I agree with Banana Boi. My steak was cooked perfectly (medium raw),
and quality was decent. 255,000 for 400g of decent quality striploin,
so no complaints. Not sure if prices here are cheaper or more expensive
than Bangkok. My gut feeling it's the latter, but I haven't really
quantified it.
Hijab girl from earlier today messaged me while I was at Holy Cow,
as she had previously wanted to come over after work. She wanted to
come over and spend the night after finishing work, but she's not so hot
that junior would enjoy banging her a third time the same day, so I had
politely indicated while she was here that I could not. She was obviously
hoping I would change my mind, but alas, I was not in the mood for that.
Instead I slowly walked over to Classic after my dinner, got a bracelet
to keep around my arm and later pay 5,000 for, and entered the dimly
lit club. I entered around 9pm, and I'd say it's not the best time.
Some girls were half a sleep, mamasan Cha-Cha I could not see, and
instead I was set upon by a gaggle of other mamasans, one more annoying
than the other. At least this Sunday night at 9pm, the mood in the club
was rather sleepy. Better the other two days when I was there around
6 pm.
I rotated myself from spot to spot to have a look at all the girls,
each time being beset upon by the annoying mamasan guarding that
particular flock. I saw L again too, but she was too busy chewing on
a chicken bone to notice me in the dark. Her herd was rather thin at
the moment, with just 6-7 girls, and I could not see any mamasan to herd
them up in a standing position for me to have a better look at either.
Never mind that however, as I could easily see that apart from L, which
I would certainly not take for a third day in a row, there were nobody
there attractive to me.
I even did the round twice, and hung around for a bit, but could not
see anyone I liked enough to want to bang at the moment, so I went up to
the cashier, paid my 5,000, got some piece of wood to give the doormen
so they would not beat me up upon leaving, and exited the club.
On the ground floor of Classic there is another place, right by the
entrance. You can hear the music pumping. I've read some reports here
indicating it may possibly be a rip-off place, but the reports were
uncertain. I was therefor a bit wary, but went up to the reception
and asked what the price to enter was, and the girl pointed at the sign
directly in front of me saying 30,000. So 6 times the price of entering
two floors up.
I was not sure what kind of place this was, and asked the doorman if
it was the same type of place as upstairs, to which he indicated yes,
as I'm sure he would do if it was a rip-off joint too.
Anyway, I thought I'd enter and if nothing else, I could warn off other
brothers if indeed it was a rip-off joint, so I indicated I wanted
to enter, and got the same type of bracelet around my arm.
Upon entering I saw that the place is similar to the place upstairs
indeed, but a tiny bit more classy perhaps? Like flying coach, but
getting metal utensils with your food, rather than one-time plastic utensils
perhaps?
There was also some crappy live band playing crappy music, and a
group of annoying Chinese entered, displaying their uncouth manners.
Including one particular young idiot, who appeared to be treating his friends
to a girl each, putting his hand down every possibly candidate's bra to check
if her bra was padded and how big her breasts were.
The organization on this floor is more effective however, with all
the girls sitting in one location, and one or two mamasans handling
all of them. Mamasan told me the price was either 600,000 or 650,000,
depending on the girl. No idea what differentiates the girls.
For the price you get one hour, one shot. Like upstairs.
The mamasans here are laid back and not annoying and pushy like upstairs,
which is good, so you can just sit by yourself and have look while
enjoying a drink (I did not order anything, and that was fine too).
The mamasan all use some laser pen that they shine into the girls face
to indicate what girl they want to stand up however, which annoys the
girls every time and you can almost hear them swearing, even with no
sound or understanding of the language.
I was having some trouble understanding why the girls here cost twice as
much as upstairs. Upstairs at that time there were around 50-60 girls
I'd guess, and downstairs here around 30-40. After looking for a while,
I guess I'd agree the quality was on average perhaps slightly better, but
I'd not start a fight with anyone saying there is no difference between
the girls here and upstairs. I'm thinking if I'm going to pay double,
the difference should be pretty obvious, but to me it was very slight.
You can call for a lineup, which will bring all the girls up in front
of you in groups of 10-15 at a time. I did not ask for that, but other
guys did a few times while I was there, so I moved over to look when
that happened. I didn't notice anyone I wanted to bang all that much
in the beginning, but after a while I did notice on girl. Perhaps because
she was not bothering to join the multiple line-ups.
She did not want to make eye contact with me, nor get up for most of
the lineups, though she did get up once or twice and I thought, ok,
I'll go with her. Alas, it was not to be.
I asked mamasan a bit about the girl (age, baby or no baby), and then
told mamasan I'd like to talk with her. At that same time a new lineup
was called, and that girl also joined, walking over to the other side
of the club. Mamasan exchanged some words with the girl as she was
walking past us. What they said I do not know, but mamasan said the girl
was scared of me. I'm not sure if she meant scared of how ugly I was,
or of the huge dick she could perhaps see through my pants with her
x-ray vision, but mamasan was positive it was the latter and not the
former.
I suggested mamasan talk a bit with the girl, and that my dick was
rather small and it would not be a problem, while I hung around waiting.
Unfortunately it ended with mamasan telling me the girl was scared and did
not want to go with me, and that she could not force her (a good thing,
that, of course). But mamasan had many other girls I could choose from,
why I not choose someone else? Had I not banged hijab girl
twice that day already, I would probably have chosen another girl,
as there were one or two other girls there I thought also looked ok,
but I was not in the mood. Instead I went up to the cashier, paid my
30,000, and got a similar piece of wood to show the doormen upon exit.
So no problems experienced.
I could have walked over to Emporivm then, but it was already 10 pm, so
it would apparently be too late for me to combine banging a girl there
with relaxing half an hour in the pool first (as was the case yesterday
too, to my sad surprise), and I was too tired to spend around 1.5M, +/-,
with the tip included, to just bang a girl there. I'd probably have
gone over if I could have relaxed in the pool too. Not sure what time
it closes, but the girl yesterday, when we went to the room at 10:30,
said the pool was closed already, but did not know when.
Instead I just went back to Redtop and wrote this undoubtedly interesting
fieldreport. :-/
Two ways to get it done.
1. Double time for double price with mama.
Or.
2. Tell mama, you will extend the session to double time if you like girl / girls. Make sure to get mamma to pass that message to the girls and insist them on providing much better cooperation and service. Once your time is nearly up (infamous phone ring) you just tell the girl to tell the room attendant, you will be extending the session to double time. Sometimes, you would get a in room call from mama to confirm or not. Your second slots gets added to your bill.
Don't worry, your room attendant won't come to you for money while you are naked, however they might come to the room to deliver more condoms unless it's not required.
How does that work? AFAIK, two hours is double the price of one hour, or? At least that is what I was told by the mamasan.
Or do you mean the girls themselves will handle it some way? While they were joking around a bit and putting on their makeup the "get out" phone started to ring also, so not really sure what they could do.
To follow up on that, this afternoon I had a surprise date with a tinder girl (online dating app) .I have the tinder app but never used it. Was the Tinder girl a freebie or did you agree on a price ahead of time? And why were you somewhat disappointed with her looks?
I'm not sure where does this confusion of timing originated, as far as I remember, 1 girl 1 hour, 2 girls 90 minutes. It's always has been like that and I don't expect it to be different when I'm there next month. This timing structure is pretty standard thought not just Jakarta but right across the country. Yes, some places will let you add 30-45 min for 40-80 k but that's optional when booked for 90 min to a longer session but not in classic.
Sure, the phone will ring as a wake up call / reminder to get ready to vacate the room but other than that, no one is going to break in to kick you out and if you decide to pump until the last minute. You just need to shower quickly and leave. There are countless of times girls has answered the phone out of breath while I'm pumping her and would get back in to the action.
If you feel awkward / guilty / uncomfortable while exiting the room, give that fugly room attendant 50 k, she will overjoyed over the moon.
AFAIK, it's the same time regardless of number of girls, and indeed the phone started ringing after one hour.
NoGermaphobe
08-04-24, 19:59
Hi Werqweq. Thanks for your contributions and reports.
Historically, Sunday is the worst day to hobby in Jakarta. Sunday is usually the slowest night in terms of customers and availability of ladies.
This is because Sunday is usually "family day. " Most locals are spending time and the day with their families and they have less time to go out and party. That being said, I still often go out Sundays and its fine for me. But just be advised the atmosphere and selection will be more muted compared to any other day of the week.
Instead I slowly walked over to Classic after my dinner, got a bracelet
to keep around my arm and later pay 5,000 for, and entered the dimly
lit club. I entered around 9pm, and I'd say it's not the best time.
Some girls were half a sleep, mamasan Cha-Cha I could not see, and
instead I was set upon by a gaggle of other mamasans, one more annoying
than the other. At least this Sunday night at 9pm, the mood in the club
was rather sleepy. Better the other two days when I was there around
6 pm.
I rotated myself from spot to spot to have a look at all the girls,
each time being beset upon by the annoying mamasan guarding that
particular flock. I saw L again too, but she was too busy chewing on
a chicken bone to notice me in the dark. Her herd was rather thin at
the moment, with just 6-7 girls, and I could not see any mamasan to herd
them up in a standing position for me to have a better look at either.
Never mind that however, as I could easily see that apart from L, which
I would certainly not take for a third day in a row, there were nobody
there attractive to me.
I even did the round twice, and hung around for a bit, but could not
see anyone I liked enough to want to bang at the moment, so I went up to
the cashier, paid my 5,000, got some piece of wood to give the doormen
so they would not beat me up upon leaving, and exited the club.
/
Nuttin Serious
08-04-24, 22:49
After banging this hijab girl
:-/Great report thank you. I'm hoping to visit Jakarata again in a couple of months, hVe put Emporium and club 1001 top of the list.
Just to add my experience on tinder in Jakarta, I managed to get 3 freebies so it's definitely pretty good for that in Jakarta. You do have to have some kind of game obviously but they're really liberal & like directness. I was going to have a 4th but I fell asleep when the girl was coming round (it was like 130 am in my defence). I was only there for 8 days.
But it's also a strange dynamic where if you meet them for dinner, choose a place which is at least somewhat presentable then the cost of that could be pretty close to getting 1 girl from Classic Hotel where that is guaranteed and obviously with the date far from it. So you have to weigh up your options but one things for sure, you will definitely be satisfied 1 way or the other. Which is a far cry from what I can say about even Bangkok these days with either tinder or the other options which are quite a lot more than the ones in Jakarta.
Excellent, you switched the be* and most importantly did not pay again, great. Mamas need to be told when a girl over or underperforms, if its latter she must stand behind in the queue for the next monger. Well done!
First off I finally got hit by a motorcycle. Facing 2 lanes of traffic trying to cross to the median so I can then cross the other 2 lanes. Motorcycle going along the side of the street going the wrong way can see me because he is behind me. I see an opeing and start to cross at the same time he reaches me and tries to go around me which puts him in my path to cross. He hits me and he and his motorcycle fall over. No damage to either of us or the motorcycle. A few guys nearby start to get a little close. The guy on the bike is mad but the others seem to feel that it was his fault so do not get involved (luckily). I try to cross again and he zooms his bike in front blocking me 2 times. I get angry telling him he fucked up. I cross and take a scenic route in case he gets any buddies nearby.
FYI I have not been showing the time on my phone or talking about shorted time to the cleaning crew of Classic and have had no more issues.
Mama Cha Cha (light brown / dark blnde hair) gave me new girl and she was pretty and friendly as we talked for a few minutes. Mama went to get the condom and room number. My girl got a mirror out of her bag and was checking herself out in the dark main room. Weird. Get to the bedroom and she takes off her shoes and mentions BJ. I said no need. Not my thing. She then brought it up 2 more times and I told her it is nearly impossible for me to cum that way so I bypass most times. Bad vibe begins. I start stripping. I have my not tight but not super baggy boxer shorts on. She says I am big and I show her my little finger and say no. She again says it is big. She has not even seen it and I am not hard. FYI I am not a big guy and my junk matches my size. Huge bad omen which always results in girls complaining after just 5-10 minutes of pain. She takes her mirror out of her bag and admires herself again as I jump into the shower. Bad mojo. I take a quick shower. Get out and she mentions BJ yet again. SOB! I dry off quickly. She has not taken any clothes off. WTFFFFF! The witch must think she will give me a BJ with her clothes on and jet out the door or something. She may be new to Classic but she has lots of experience in trying to give the least amount of service possible because she thinks she is a Princess. She was not new to the game what-so-ever. I grab my clothes and get dressed and out the door. Tell mama about the stupid witch. She gets me a new girl who was great. No extra fee. Just change of girls.
I wish I could have seen her walk of shame. I took many girls there with few problems. So the cleaning crew probably asked her what happened, then the girls she sits with asked her the same, and lastly the mama. Haha.
Here it is, possibly most completed TERMS AND ABBREVIATIONS IN THE WORLD OF SEXPEDITION Indonesia. Special thanks to fellow mongers, Kimochi, Classic, Segitia and KUY group to add their input and define most common words that can be understood by different regions of Indonesia.
1. BJ: Oral Sex. Seks oral.
2. HJ: Onani / Masturbation. Masturbasi.
3. FJ: Having Sex. Bersetubuh.
4. ML: Make Love (Having Sex) - Bersetubuh.
5. FK: French Kiss / Fucking Kiss. French Kiss / Fucking Kiss.
6. FF: Finger Fuck (Putting Fingers Into Vagina) - Masukkin Jari Ke Vagina.
7. MOT: Man On The Top. Co Di Atas.
8. WOT: Woman On The Top. Cw Di Atas.
9. DS: Doggy Style. Doggy Style.
10. DC: Damage Cost. Damage Cost.
11. GFE: Girl Friend Experience. Girl Friend Experience.
12. WP: Female Entertainer. Wanita Penghibur.
13. NPWP: Female Call Number. Nomor Punggung Wanita Panggilan.
14. PP: Massage Parlor. Panti Pijat.
15. SSI: Speak Speak Iblis. Speak Speak Iblis.
16. ST: Short Time. Short Time.
17. *LT*: Long Time. Long Time.
18. Polda: Kitchen Police (wife) - Polisi Dapur (Isteri).
19. *CT*: Classic Terminal.
20. *Blok T*: Travel Hotel.
21. *Blok see*: Classic Hotel.
22. *Blok A*: Alexis Hotel (RIP. A great loss to the punters).
23. *BB*: Bintang Baru Hotel.
24. *HS*: Hill Side Hotel.
25. *CIF*: Cum In Face. Keluar di Muka.
26. CIM: Cum In Mouth (Out in Mouth) - Keluar di Mulut.
27. Corn Fur: WP who is still a teenager. Bulu Jagung*: WP yang masih abg.
28. Panlok: WP of Chinese descent. Panlok*: WP Keturunan Chinese.
29. *BM*: Body Massage.
30. LC: Lady Companion (Usually found in karaoke places) -*LC*: Lady Companion (Biasanya ada di tempat2 karaoke).
31. BD: Back Door (Anal Sex).
32. *SHS*: Sex History Speak (don't know what that means!
33. Kondie / Caps / Tameng: Condom. Kondom.
34. *Toge*: Good. Toge*: baik.
35. Tobi: good Savage. Tobi*: baik Biadab.
36. Nocan: Beautiful Number (wp cellphone number / masseuse number at PP) - Nomor Cantik (no hp wp / no pemijat di PP).
37. Therapist: Female masseuse at PP. Therapis*: Wanita pemijat di PP.
38. RO: Repeat Order (FJ with the same girl at different times) -*RO*: Repeat Order (FJ dengan cewe yang sama dalam waktu berbeda).
39. *MMC*: Mimik mimik Cucu.
40. Good -.
41. FOC: Free of Charge (free ML) - ML gratisan.
42. TO: Operation Target. Target Operasi.
43. Red sheet = Rp 100,000 - lembar merah*= Rp 100.000.
44. Blue sheet = Rp 50,000 - lembar biru*= Rp 50.000.
45. Green sheet = Rp 20,000 -*lembar hijau*= Rp 20.000.
46. BSH = Barisan Sakit Hati. Barisan Sakit Hati.
47. PK*= Oversleep hero / loser who likes to report. Pahlawan Kesiangan / pecundang yg suka melapor.
48. *Mimin*= mindik-mindik.
49. *Anjelo*= pick-up and drop-off for housemaids. Antar jemput pramuria.
50. *BBW*= Big Beautiful Woman. Wanita Cantik dan Besar.
51. *Benerin tile*= going upstairs (entering the room with the WP) -*Benerin genteng*= naek ke atas (masuk ke kamar bersama sang WP).
52. *Big "O"*= orgasm. Orgasm, orgasme.
53. *Binor*= someone's wife. Bini orang.
54. *BU*= needs money (like a sales and buy) -*BU*= butuh uang (kayak iklan jual beli).
55. *Buang tai macan*= throw away / expel sperm or semen. Buang tai macan*= buang / keluarin sperma atau sperma.
56. *Maize hair*= smelly teenager who has just started growing hair. Bulu jagung*= abg bau kencur yg baru mulai tumbuh bulu.
57. *Diesel*= sucked until annoyed. Diisep sampe kesel.
58. *GRO*= Guest Relation Officer. Guest Relation Officer.
59. *MK: Cat Bath. Mandi Kucing.
60. *JM: lick miss v. Jilat miss v.
61. *LD*: Ladies Drink.
62. *STW*: Half Old -*STW*: Setengah TuWa.
63. *MILF*: Mom I'd like to fuck.
64. *PM: Pick Mango (either combined with massaging other vital parts around the penis) - Petik Mangga (baik yang dikombinasikan dengan mengurut bagian vital lainnya di sekitar penis).
65. *Kutilang*: THIN Tall SLIMMING. KUrus TInggi LANGsing.
66. *PHP*: Giver of False Hope. Pemberi Harapan Palsu.
67. *FL*: Free Lancer.
68. *SD*: Sexy Dancer.
69. *KC*: King Cross.
70. *MS*: Healthy Massage. Massage Sehat.
71. *JM*: Lick squid. Jilat cumi.
72. CK: Wash Under, lick the anus. Cuci Kolong jilat lobang anus.
73. Bookingan, Bispak, Bokep, Bisyar (basically hookers).
74. ABG (Anak Baru Gede: young girl).
75. Jak Sel (selatan: south), Pus (pusat: CBD).
76. Include / exclude (hotel cost).
77. DP (Deposit, NOT Double Penetration!
Happy Safe Mongering, Zippo.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-05-24, 08:00
Snip. On the ground floor of Classic there is another place, right by the
entrance. You can hear the music pumping. I've read some reports here
indicating it may possibly be a rip-off place, but the reports were
uncertain. I was therefor a bit wary, but went up to the reception
and asked what the price to enter was, and the girl pointed at the sign
directly in front of me saying 30,000. So 6 times the price of entering
two floors up. Snip./I was there early last month and I remember paying 5,000 the 3 times I went. Guess they jacked up the price.
Bro, I don't agree. Most girls I was with allowed me to touch caress and lick this 'no entry' zone, LOL. And in some bold cases I did finger or fuck them. Just treat them well, with love respect.I'm not that frequent a monger in Indo, but of the 20 or so Indo girls that I've had, there were only 2-3 that did not let me kiss or lick their anus. All the others were perfectly comfortable in letting me do what I wanted. There were some who were even quite turned on by it and kept moving their hips up and down on my tongue while I tongue fucked their assholes. If you're into it, you should knock on the door anyway. You don't have anything to lose.
JonnySutton
08-05-24, 12:08
OK no worries. I also avoid the girls with photos from Dubai or on yachts etc and always prefer the cute student types (in Europe too, not just Asia). I may also try Tinder and see what's available, or the Malls as you say. Have fun in Jakarta.
So, I decided not to use SA. Girls look expensive. A few Europeans (why would I go to Jakarta to fuck a Rusky? Also, I don't like meeting girls that have pics from trips to Sydney, Singapore, Dubai, Paris, KL, etc.
My plan is visiting malls during the day and EMP and Classic in the evening. Will provide a report.
I arrive at CGK, 1:20 pm on Friday. I estimate I'll arrive at Luminor at 5.
Most girls had never experienced this before and some went ecstatic. I remember that one time a girl actually didn't allow me to stop and take my tongue off, after a while I was gasping for breathe. But it had its rewards too, she allowed bb anal and asked me not to share this with her friends. Once you go back (ass) you don't come back LOL!
I'm not that frequent a monger in Indo, but of the 20 or so Indo girls that I've had, there were only 2-3 that did not let me kiss or lick their anus. All the others were perfectly comfortable in letting me do what I wanted. There were some who were even quite turned on by it and kept moving their hips up and down on my tongue while I tongue fucked their assholes. If you're into it, you should knock on the door anyway. You don't have anything to lose.
I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.
Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.
I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.
Regards.
I'm not sure where does this confusion of timing originated, as far as I remember, 1 girl 1 hour, 2 girls 90 minutes. It's always has been like that and I don't expect it to be different when I'm there next month. This timing structure is pretty standard thought not just Jakarta but right across the country. Yes, some places will let you add 30-45 min for 40-80 k but that's optional when booked for 90 min to a longer session but not in classic.
Sure, the phone will ring as a wake up call / reminder to get ready to vacate the room but other than that, no one is going to break in to kick you out and if you decide to pump until the last minute. You just need to shower quickly and leave. There are countless of times girls has answered the phone out of breath while I'm pumping her and would get back in to the action.
If you feel awkward / guilty / uncomfortable while exiting the room, give that fugly room attendant 50 k, she will overjoyed over the moon.Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?
When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.
Just to add my experience on tinder in Jakarta, I managed to get 3 freebies so it's definitely pretty good for that in Jakarta. You do have to have some kind of game obviously but they're really liberal & like directness. I was going to have a 4th but I fell asleep when the girl was coming round (it was like 130 am in my defence). I was only there for 8 days.
But it's also a strange dynamic where if you meet them for dinner, choose a place which is at least somewhat presentable then the cost of that could be pretty close to getting 1 girl from Classic Hotel where that is guaranteed and obviously with the date far from it. So you have to weigh up your options but one things for sure, you will definitely be satisfied 1 way or the other. Which is a far cry from what I can say about even Bangkok these days with either tinder or the other options which are quite a lot more than the ones in Jakarta.LOL. I never meet them at any fancy, or even presentable dinner, unless I've already banged them enough times to have started to like them.
The girl I mentioned that did not come back with me I met for coffee and cake, while the hijab girl I met for swimming in the pool of my hotel, after telling here there were changing rooms by the pool so she did not have to go to my room to change. She had earlier in the conversation said was not going to come to my hotel while we were trying to figure out what coffee shop to meet at during the three hours she had left before she had to leave for work. After we'd been in / around the pool for almost an hour I suggested she might want to try the non-alcohol soda (Singha lemon soda) I had brought with me from Thailand, which was in my room.
But it's also a strange dynamic where if you meet them for dinner, choose a place which is at least somewhat presentable then the cost of that could be pretty close to getting 1 girl from Classic Hotel where that is guaranteed and obviously with the date far from it. So you have to weigh up your options but one things for sure, you will definitely be satisfied 1 way or the other. Which is a far cry from what I can say about even Bangkok these days with either tinder or the other options which are quite a lot more than the ones in Jakarta.And just to add: at least to me there's a world of difference in banging a girl because she wants me to bang her, and banging a girl because I pay her to let me bang her. Girls that want to meet at some fancy restaurant for the first date I have fortunately rarely experienced, and I would just label them as gold diggers and suggest we meet at the cheapest noddle stand I can think of instead.
I have the tinder app but never used it. Was the Tinder girl a freebie or did you agree on a price ahead of time? And why were you somewhat disappointed with her looks?I don't think I said I were disappointed with her looks?
And no, I did not pay here any money, but I did book a taxi via the Grab app (I set it up in Thailand long time ago, and fortunately it also works in Indonesia.) for her to come to the hotel. When she left, I offered to do the same (bike in this case, as she was in a hurry). It was just a normal "date", except usually girls arrange their own transport rather than asking me to book / pay it for them. Not sure I've ever been asked that before, but I thought ok, I've never met a hijab girl either, so who knows? It was just 5-6 km each way I think and cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee or something like that, so not even sure why she asked. Guessing it made her feel better for some reason that I was paying for her to come.
We all learn at some point and somewhere. As far as I can tell, you did pretty well for being new to classic.
In regards to timing, it doesn't make sense but if you look at a different perspective, they are not dealing with 2 different rooms-cleaning and getting a bonus of 150 by giving you 1 girl who pretty much would sit on the couch staring at her phone. Also, classic isn't really loosing much after paying girls (few changes) whatever they are getting.
So, trick here as stated before, have mamma drill these key words in to the girls mind, "good service good tips" possibly "double time if they perform well". End of the day, they are there to make money for whatever financial constraints they are in and we are there to give them that in exchange of something they possess. Don't forget to show the countdown timer to the room attendant as you walk in 😁.
Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?
When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.
Here my friend, you made an historic milestone. Getting Tinder girls in exchange of Grab. Lucky you and happy for you.
I have had Badoo and Cupid girls for free but then I paid for their taxi and dinner but never a tinder. One of them actually accompanied me to Bangkok. My luck with Tinder being all high-fly golden pussy syndrome infected girls.
Keep her in loupe bud, will come in handy on a rainy day 😁.
I don't think I said I were disappointed with her looks?
And no, I did not pay here any money, but I did book a taxi via the Grab app (I set it up in Thailand long time ago, and fortunately it also works in Indonesia.) for her to come to the hotel. When she left, I offered to do the same (bike in this case, as she was in a hurry). It was just a normal "date", except usually girls arrange their own transport rather than asking me to book / pay it for them. Not sure I've ever been asked that before, but I thought ok, I've never met a hijab girl either, so who knows? It was just 5-6 km each way I think and cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee or something like that, so not even sure why she asked. Guessing it made her feel better for some reason that I was paying for her to come.
Looks like Emporium is trying to up their game as well. When you say Papasam / Handler, are we talking about David? As long as I've known him, he is very transparent and listens to what client desires.
I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.
Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.
I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.
Regards.
Forgot to respond on ChaCha, she is one of the nice ones there and doesn't work on a vulture style. Another one I like and trust is Jeni. Last one is Henni, she listens to me and finds what I desire even if she needs to get it from other Mamma. Only thing I don't like about her is her shark syndrome. She would sit in my table and ask for lady drink, smoke and anything else you can think off! I in-fact once told her, "let me take you to the room and milk you 😁.
Offer chacha if you desire, you never know, she might surprise you 😉.
Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?
When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.
Just got my E-Visa in 10 min after a bit of a hiccup. If you have one of those new passport with a privacy protection film on the photo page, just know, while taking picture of it to upload, glare will distort the image quality to a degree that uploading process will reject it. Only way around is to take a black and white picture then upload unless you have access to one of those high end photo scanners but you would have to reduce the file size.
Also, just to confirm, if your country is eligible to E-visa, you will have access to e-gate at immigration. It should say at the bottom of the e-visa page.
Hope this helps everyone.
Member #3088
08-06-24, 01:48
Here it is, possibly most completed TERMS AND ABBREVIATIONS IN THE WORLD OF SEXPEDITION Indonesia. Special thanks to fellow mongers, Kimochi, Classic, Segitia and KUY group to add their input and define most common words that can be understood by different regions of Indonesia.
1. BJ: Oral Sex. Seks oral.
2. HJ: Onani / Masturbation. Masturbasi.
3. FJ: Having Sex. Bersetubuh.
4. ML: Make Love (Having Sex) - Bersetubuh.
5. FK: French Kiss / Fucking Kiss. French Kiss / Fucking Kiss.
6. FF: Finger Fuck (Putting Fingers Into Vagina) - Masukkin Jari Ke Vagina.
7. MOT: Man On The Top. Co Di Atas.
8. WOT: Woman On The Top. Cw Di Atas.
9. DS: Doggy Style. Doggy Style.
10. DC: Damage Cost. Damage Cost.
11. GFE: Girl Friend Experience. Girl Friend Experience.
12. WP: Female Entertainer. Wanita Penghibur.
13. NPWP: Female Call Number. Nomor Punggung Wanita Panggilan.
14. PP: Massage Parlor. Panti Pijat.
15. SSI: Speak Speak Iblis. Speak Speak Iblis.
16. ST: Short Time. Short Time.
17. *LT*: Long Time. Long Time.
18. Polda: Kitchen Police (wife) - Polisi Dapur (Isteri).
19. *CT*: Classic Terminal.
20. *Blok T*: Travel Hotel.
21. *Blok see*: Classic Hotel.
22. *Blok A*: Alexis Hotel (RIP. A great loss to the punters).
23. *BB*: Bintang Baru Hotel.
24. *HS*: Hill Side Hotel.
25. *CIF*: Cum In Face. Keluar di Muka.
26. CIM: Cum In Mouth (Out in Mouth) - Keluar di Mulut.
27. Corn Fur: WP who is still a teenager. Bulu Jagung*: WP yang masih abg.
28. Panlok: WP of Chinese descent. Panlok*: WP Keturunan Chinese.
29. *BM*: Body Massage.
30. LC: Lady Companion (Usually found in karaoke places) -*LC*: Lady Companion (Biasanya ada di tempat2 karaoke).
31. BD: Back Door (Anal Sex).
32. *SHS*: Sex History Speak (don't know what that means!
33. Kondie / Caps / Tameng: Condom. Kondom.
34. *Toge*: Good. Toge*: baik.
35. Tobi: good Savage. Tobi*: baik Biadab.
36. Nocan: Beautiful Number (wp cellphone number / masseuse number at PP) - Nomor Cantik (no hp wp / no pemijat di PP).
37. Therapist: Female masseuse at PP. Therapis*: Wanita pemijat di PP.
38. RO: Repeat Order (FJ with the same girl at different times) -*RO*: Repeat Order (FJ dengan cewe yang sama dalam waktu berbeda).
39. *MMC*: Mimik mimik Cucu.
40. Good -.
41. FOC: Free of Charge (free ML) - ML gratisan.
42. TO: Operation Target. Target Operasi.
43. Red sheet = Rp 100,000 - lembar merah*= Rp 100.000.
44. Blue sheet = Rp 50,000 - lembar biru*= Rp 50.000.
45. Green sheet = Rp 20,000 -*lembar hijau*= Rp 20.000.
46. BSH = Barisan Sakit Hati. Barisan Sakit Hati.
47. PK*= Oversleep hero / loser who likes to report. Pahlawan Kesiangan / pecundang yg suka melapor.
48. *Mimin*= mindik-mindik.
49. *Anjelo*= pick-up and drop-off for housemaids. Antar jemput pramuria.
50. *BBW*= Big Beautiful Woman. Wanita Cantik dan Besar.
51. *Benerin tile*= going upstairs (entering the room with the WP) -*Benerin genteng*= naek ke atas (masuk ke kamar bersama sang WP).
52. *Big "O"*= orgasm. Orgasm, orgasme.
53. *Binor*= someone's wife. Bini orang.
54. *BU*= needs money (like a sales and buy) -*BU*= butuh uang (kayak iklan jual beli).
55. *Buang tai macan*= throw away / expel sperm or semen. Buang tai macan*= buang / keluarin sperma atau sperma.
56. *Maize hair*= smelly teenager who has just started growing hair. Bulu jagung*= abg bau kencur yg baru mulai tumbuh bulu.
57. *Diesel*= sucked until annoyed. Diisep sampe kesel.
58. *GRO*= Guest Relation Officer. Guest Relation Officer.
59. *MK: Cat Bath. Mandi Kucing.
60. *JM: lick miss v. Jilat miss v.
61. *LD*: Ladies Drink.
62. *STW*: Half Old -*STW*: Setengah TuWa.
63. *MILF*: Mom I'd like to fuck.
64. *PM: Pick Mango (either combined with massaging other vital parts around the penis) - Petik Mangga (baik yang dikombinasikan dengan mengurut bagian vital lainnya di sekitar penis).
65. *Kutilang*: THIN Tall SLIMMING. KUrus TInggi LANGsing.
66. *PHP*: Giver of False Hope. Pemberi Harapan Palsu.
67. *FL*: Free Lancer.
68. *SD*: Sexy Dancer.
69. *KC*: King Cross.
70. *MS*: Healthy Massage. Massage Sehat.
71. *JM*: Lick squid. Jilat cumi.
72. CK: Wash Under, lick the anus. Cuci Kolong jilat lobang anus.
73. Bookingan, Bispak, Bokep, Bisyar (basically hookers).
74. ABG (Anak Baru Gede: young girl).
75. Jak Sel (selatan: south), Pus (pusat: CBD).
76. Include / exclude (hotel cost).
77. DP (Deposit, NOT Double Penetration!
Happy Safe Mongering, Zippo.Thank you Zippo. Just a note that 'toge' does not mean 'good' in a literal sense, but rather 'toket besar' or 'big tits'. Not listed here is 'tobrut', which means 'toket brutal' or even bigger tits. Both are good, I suppose! SHS likely means 'Senior High School' or SMA in Indonesian.
Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them. Then the misunderstanding regarding the tip as I was not aware of the rule change. I have always paid 200 K but that was my choice not out of compulsion. Yesterday got to know of this rule so came as a bit of surprise. I had a polite discussion with him on the reception counter that I did not know all this hence the confusion. Called the chick down and handed her another 100 K as her tip. I will not be surprised if other clubs or bars also adopt the same strategy of minimum tip to the chicks. All in all, still a nice trip with a few minuses; part of mongering journey. It happens, so it's fine. Just wanted other members to be aware of before they take the call.
Regards.
Looks like Emporium is trying to up their game as well. When you say Papasam / Handler, are we talking about David? As long as I've known him, he is very transparent and listens to what client desires.
Here my friend, you made an historic milestone. Getting Tinder girls in exchange of Grab. Lucky you and happy for you.
I have had Badoo and Cupid girls for free but then I paid for their taxi and dinner but never a tinder. One of them actually accompanied me to Bangkok. My luck with Tinder being all high-fly golden pussy syndrome infected girls.
Keep her in loupe bud, will come in handy on a rainy day 😁.LOL, thank you.
I recommend giving tinder another go. IME, most of the girls on there in Jakarta are normal girls. As a white guy, I also got considerably more attraction in Jakarta on the dating apps than I do in Bangkok.
I recommend the Bumble app too.
It was difficult to meet these regular girls when I only had a few days though, since I'm not really handsome perhaps. The back and forth messaging goes on for days usually, and many just fizzle out, perhaps before contacting you again several days later. Like today and yesterday I got messages from several girls who I had been talking to while in Jakarta, but now there's no point.
Expat American
08-06-24, 08:11
I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.
Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.
I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.
Regards.Interesting. I had top customer service at Emporium. I tipped 200 K as my my normal tip for good service. The first girl seemed a little disappointed (because she gave me BBFS) but didn't make a fuss. The second girl was more than happy with the amount. But I don't like the idea of it being mandatory. Then just raise the price. Tips should be incentive for service. I'm hoping your case is not the typical and something just got lost in translation. Otherwise we should assume the price to be 1. 4/1. 6 which is still cheaper than Thailand and even Philippines for equivalent quality girls so still not a deal breaker.
Thanks much for the input. I will update the list.
Let me know if you think of anything else.
Thank you Zippo. Just a note that 'toge' does not mean 'good' in a literal sense, but rather 'toket besar' or 'big tits'. Not listed here is 'tobrut', which means 'toket brutal' or even bigger tits. Both are good, I suppose! SHS likely means 'Senior High School' or SMA in Indonesian.
I sure will give it Tinder a try this time as well bumble. I will just have to free up some time between meeting my both milfs and a very good friend. I think I can mange out of 2 weeks.
I think it was Westcoast or G or someone said, Indonesia always seems to be behind by a certain period. I guess same goes for Tinder girls too 😁. Like you said, there is absolutely no pint right now since you aren't even in the country.
Here is a fun fact, Indonesia is quoting IDR1,500,000 for 5 years tourist evisa. That's literally $930 and if you break it down that's equivalent to applying for 33 evisa! Whomever came up with that idea. Must be on some sort of special pills.
LOL, thank you.
I recommend giving tinder another go. IME, most of the girls on there in Jakarta are normal girls. As a white guy, I also got considerably more attraction in Jakarta on the dating apps than I do in Bangkok.
I recommend the Bumble app too.
It was difficult to meet these regular girls when I only had a few days though, since I'm not really handsome perhaps. The back and forth messaging goes on for days usually, and many just fizzle out, perhaps before contacting you again several days later. Like today and yesterday I got messages from several girls who I had been talking to while in Jakarta, but now there's no point.
I don't think I said I were disappointed with her looks?
And no, I did not pay here any money, but I did book a taxi via the Grab app (I set it up in Thailand long time ago, and fortunately it also works in Indonesia.) for her to come to the hotel. When she left, I offered to do the same (bike in this case, as she was in a hurry). It was just a normal "date", except usually girls arrange their own transport rather than asking me to book / pay it for them. Not sure I've ever been asked that before, but I thought ok, I've never met a hijab girl either, so who knows? It was just 5-6 km each way I think and cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee or something like that, so not even sure why she asked. Guessing it made her feel better for some reason that I was paying for her to come.Oops. You are correct. I reread your hijab post and you didn't say you were disappointed with her looks. I am very interested with hijab girls We all have our kinks!
Just got my E-Visa in 10 min after a bit of a hiccup. If you have one of those new passport with a privacy protection film on the photo page, just know, while taking picture of it to upload, glare will distort the image quality to a degree that uploading process will reject it. Only way around is to take a black and white picture then upload unless you have access to one of those high end photo scanners but you would have to reduce the file size.
Also, just to confirm, if your country is eligible to E-visa, you will have access to e-gate at immigration. It should say at the bottom of the e-visa page.
Hope this helps everyone.I second that. Seems there were some questions from guys in posts from recent months about logistical items re Jakarta. My experience getting set up last week was super easy and getting into / around Jakarkta is a lot easier than some posts led me to believe.
Getting set up and settled has been covered in various ways, but I think an occasional update helps for the un / less initiated:
1. Airport immigration and customs.
*eVoa.
- account. Set up an account at the Immigration website, but note that your information doesn't all transfer directly from account to eVOA application, and application has its own required information.
- application. Get your passport, passport-sized photo, and return / onward ticket docs ready in advance and you'll save time, but system seems stable now.
- I used Onward Ticket (US $16) for uploading an eTicket reservation and it worked no problem for getting eVOA; since the eVOA allows you to use the eGate at immigration; no one asked to see my onward ticket, but I had it printed and ready in case.
- definitely get eVOA in advance, there was a LONG line of people applying for VOA at airport around midnight, must have been 60-minute wait at least for them; I walked right past them and was out through eGate in seconds.
*eCustoms. I also filled out eCustoms form before I got on my flight; scanned me straight through at airport.
2. ATM. Used the HSBC ATM for my HSBC card before immigration, easy and less than 2 $ fee.
3. sim card and phone.
- Don't know what all the earlier fuss was about this. It works exactly the same as in Bangkok, Manila, etc. , super easy to set up.
- Around 5 sim card providers just outside arrival after customs, open 24 hours, got me set up with 65 GB for $30.
- Staff set up physical sim in my own phone, no special registration needed for 30 day stay (though they had to do the IMEI registration for the sim card only).
- Works immediately and I have exactly same data / calling in Jakarta as other major SE Asian locations.
4. Grab from airport. Super easy, convenient, and good service;.
- Grab has its own special stand (past Bluebird stand) to the left a ways out of airport exit; could add the highway toll in with the credit card payment, super nice staff and driver.
5. Traffic. Not as bad as some guys say; its like other Asian cities when they were building mass transit systems.
- Air is bad; recommend buying masks.
- Grab bike is easy, fun, and saves you half the time; usually arrives within 2 minutes; but your clothes will smell of exhaust.
6. Walking. Also not as bad as some guys say (wtf dudes); just walk on the edge of the street; exploring areas and smaller streets on foot has been fun and easy, but make sure you keep eyes in all directions for traffic, which is not difficult to adjust to.
7. ISG access. Easy access, same as everywhere (but with VPN). Using hotel wifi with my regular VPN.
My flight arrived at gate at 11:50 pm and I was checked into hotel room by 1:30 am. Imo smoother than Bangkok. These are my experiences coming in end of July. I'm enjoying city so much I'm giving dick a needed rest from July in PH before fully diving into Indo snatch.
Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them. Then the misunderstanding regarding the tip as I was not aware of the rule change. I have always paid 200 K but that was my choice not out of compulsion. Yesterday got to know of this rule so came as a bit of surprise. I had a polite discussion with him on the reception counter that I did not know all this hence the confusion. Called the chick down and handed her another 100 K as her tip. I will not be surprised if other clubs or bars also adopt the same strategy of minimum tip to the chicks. All in all, still a nice trip with a few minuses; part of mongering journey. It happens, so it's fine. Just wanted other members to be aware of before they take the call.
Regards.Surprised to hear that. I've only been to Emporivm twice, both last week, but I did not see any indication that a tip is mandatory, and indeed it would suck if it now is. I'm surprised because:
1) Neither David, nor the mamsan I dealt with two days later, as David was not working, mentioned any tip.
2) The girl I went with, she asked me at the end how I wanted to give her her tip (LOL, who says I am going to give you a tip, honey? Via coupon, or cash). At first I had no idea what coupon meant, but she showed me a small slip of paper that had four options for "tipping for service" that you could tick: 100,000, 200,000, 500,000, 1000,000. And I did not notice any mention of it being mandatory either, so had service been bad I would have tipped nothing (and perhaps then found out it is mandatory at the counter later? Dunno).
As it was, I banged the girl twice without condom during our 90 minutes, so I guesstimated that a 500,000 should be a decent enough tip for that. Next time I, purely by coincidence, tipped 200,000 (happened to be the same chick). Service was good (the same), but only banged her twice.
Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them.
This particular point I don't think there's any reason to blame the papasan / David for. I don't see why you had any more reason to assume the girls were 1. 2 M girls than 1. 4 M girls, so you should simply have asked IMO.
but only banged her twice.Only banged her once, that should have said.
No, it is not a typical case and is mandatory; no backing out. I have fucked 6 girls there and have given all 5 of them 200 K because I was super happy with the service. I do not do BBFS but was mighty pleased with what I got. The 6th girl attitude in the room and outside was not that warm; wouldn't call it cold as well but found her to be too commercial kinda chick. I gave her 100 K and that's how Papasan came to me at the counter and explained the rule to me that it has been changed only a month ago. Tips cannot be forced out of me if not informed earlier in advance. Honestly, it's not 100 K that bugged me as God's been kind but the rule change or no prior info that irritated me. Nothing got lost in translation as me and Papasan both can converse and understand English Language.
Interesting. I had top customer service at Emporium. I tipped 200 K as my my normal tip for good service. The first girl seemed a little disappointed (because she gave me BBFS) but didn't make a fuss. The second girl was more than happy with the amount. But I don't like the idea of it being mandatory. Then just raise the price. Tips should be incentive for service. I'm hoping your case is not the typical and something just got lost in translation. Otherwise we should assume the price to be 1. 4/1. 6 which is still cheaper than Thailand and even Philippines for equivalent quality girls so still not a deal breaker.
I wrote that I do not blame him. In my business, my customers trust me and I work on Pan country basis and likewise we share the same faith factor. It's the goodwill and faith. The only time he gave me a 1. 4 K girl in my last 5 sessions but not for the sixth chick, I was informed in advance about her price but not this time. I had taken the 1. 4 M chick as he chose it for me but when she came and sat with me, I observed she had a kind of a slight moustache and I sent her back before choosing a 1. 2 M chick. That was on my last trip. So, me or him assuming does not arise. He assumed that I would go with his choice which I did and I assumed that he would like a one time before inform me of 1. 4 M chick which he did not. So, that's my point but nevertheless, it's been a learning trip. He pinged me yesterday again to come but by that time I had emptied my juice in a Bumble chick. Sorry but my opinion is that as a customer I should be informed if the chick is of 1. 4 M. Have fun and enjoy. I depart.
This particular point I don't think there's any reason to blame the papasan / David for. I don't see why you had any more reason to assume the girls were 1. 2 M girls than 1. 4 M girls, so you should simply have asked IMO.
Please allow me to correct you. If my memory serves me right, there is no column of 100 K tip on that coupon which the girl presents to the client. It starts with 200 K, 300 K and so on and so forth. I have always been paying cash. Also, let me clarify that last time my colleague also went there on my last trip with me as he did not know about this place; he gave a tip of 150 K cash to the chick and took a food bill as he paid by credit card and debited the account to his company. That MF has a huge travelling budget and I pointed it out to him, you lucky bastard you fuck chick on company expense. Also, allow me to inform all gents here that Papasan specifically came to meet me at my time and preponed his visit to the dentist. He also informed me if he's not there, other Mamasans would take care of me as now they know me well too as in less than 2 months I have been there 7 times, one time with my colleague. Since, you paid 200 K or more; you were not informed of this rule but I gave the chick 100 K hence how it unfolded to me. Tip is for service; great or bad that's my luck and between me and the customer but how much I give is my choice not to be forced out of me till I know the rule. It's fine as now I know all the rules.
Surprised to hear that. I've only been to Emporivm twice, both last week, but I did not see any indication that a tip is mandatory, and indeed it would suck if it now is. I'm surprised because:
1) Neither David, nor the mamsan I dealt with two days later, as David was not working, mentioned any tip.
2) The girl I went with, she asked me at the end how I wanted to give her her tip (LOL, who says I am going to give you a tip, honey? Via coupon, or cash). At first I had no idea what coupon meant, but she showed me a small slip of paper that had four options for "tipping for service" that you could tick: 100,000, 200,000, 500,000, 1000,000. And I did not notice any mention of it being mandatory either, so had service been bad I would have tipped nothing (and perhaps then found out it is mandatory at the counter later? Dunno).
As it was, I banged the girl twice without condom during our 90 minutes, so I guesstimated that a 500,000 should be a decent enough tip for that. Next time I, purely by coincidence, tipped 200,000 (happened to be the same chick). Service was good (the same), but only banged her twice.
Zippos, check again please. IDR1,500,000 is $93 and not $930 unless you wanted to type IDR 15,000,000 and made an error. If its just $93 I am game.
Here is a fun fact, Indonesia is quoting IDR1,500,000 for 5 years tourist evisa. That's literally $930 and if you break it down that's equivalent to applying for 33 evisa! Whomever came up with that idea. Must be on some sort of special pills.
Please allow me to correct you. If my memory serves me right, there is no column of 100 K tip on that coupon which the girl presents to the client. It starts with 200 K, 300 K and so on and so forth. ... Since, you paid 200 K or more; you were not informed of this rule but I gave the chick 100 K hence how it unfolded to me. Tip is for service; great or bad that's my luck and between me and the customer but how much I give is my choice not to be forced out of me till I know the rule. It's fine as now I know all the rules.
One of us obviously remembers the listed tip possibilities wrong, and it may very well be me.
I agree with you. Tip should be for service, and it is unfortunate if that is not the case. So the price is then in practice 1. 433 or 1. 633 at Emporivm now, depending on the girl, + plus whatever extra tip-on-tip you want to give.
IMO this is a bad thing, as it removes incentive for the girls to provide good service if they are now guaranteed a "tip" regardless of their service. In your case, with that one girl, I would probably have given a tip of zero. It would certainly have left a sour taste in my mouth if I had then been forced to pay her a tip of 200 k by management.
LoveItHere69
08-07-24, 14:24
(nNrth side).
Glow Spa 500 k 1 hour.
Across from Travel Hotel. Opened early June and I went there late June. I walked into the entrance room 1.5 m x 1.5 m with a desk and 3-4 guys standing there making it very small. I did not like that. They have a list of 5-6 offerings (HJ, BJ, sex.). But I can get 2 girls for that across the street so I walked out.
Mari Enjoy 300 k 13 girls.
Three streets north of Burger King. Across from Paragon Mall. You are on the correct street when you turn around and see Abuba Steak sign across the street. Bar is on your left. Someone will greet you outside most times. Place is a dump. 1 towel. No tissue to clean up. I took a nice 5 foot girl there, an Oriental face tall girl who had baby damage but firm boobs and laughed a lot, and one other. They get up from sitting rather slowly so I thought they did not want me, but in the room they were fine. All 3 either liked sex or were great actresses that was the thing for me. It was like they had not had any for a while. There is a massage place just past it is just a massage place. The karaoke across is just a karaoke place.
Classic 1st floor club has indeed increased entrance fee from 5 k to 30 k. Communication issue so still unsure of girl costs.
XXX.
(South side) Pondok Indah.
Mr. Braid 350 k and 450 k 30 girls.
Across from Gandaria Mall (my favorite mall). Big sign. Girls upstairs Yellow tag 350 k and red teg 450 k. They sat in their colored groups when I was there. Not too dark so you can see the girls. The girls seemed a little thick. The girl I took kept looking at her boobs like I was leaving marks on them, tried to drive (which I hate), and moaned too much. I corrected her and was able to finish.
New Vins Spa 300 k and pricier levels.
Straight south on the same street as Mr. Braid. Walked past and did not see it twice. Third time was a charm. Dark small sign. Mamasan April nice and speaks English. Wanted to show pictures but I said show me the girls in real. Took a girl and she put her phone in a locker next the rooms. I think she asked me if I wanted to do the same. That would have been tremendously stupid of me! The girl I took spoke very little English yet she kept trying to talk every 3 minutes so could never concentrate. She also said condom twice before even undressing which is not a good sign. She checked her boobs like I was leaving marks on them and also checked the condom was on when trying to do doggie. The door did not lock and was a sliding door which would make it easy for someone to reach in and grab something. Midway all the lights turned off. I had my phone so turned on the flashlight. Lights out for 3 minutes. Kind of odd that the air conditioner light stayed on. The whole thing made my spider sense tingle so I could not get hard but twice for just a few minutes. At the end she asked if she was good and I shook my head no and put two thumbs down. No tip.
Mars Spa 455 k and pricier levels.
Never made it there.
XXX.
(west side) Just west of Royal Taruma Hospital. Info taken Friday starting 7:15 pm.
Hot Pants 350 k 0 girls.
Girls were supposed to be upstairs. There were 4 guys. 1 employee. 1 possible employee. 2 customers. No girls in the room.
Cahaya Arwana 350 k 4 girls.
5 second walk next door. 4 girls in the dark all sitting in different areas playing on their phones showing no interest. Mamasan motions more upstairs getting ready. I leave and she gets a little bitchy.
Wijaya 77 350 k 3 girls.
Another 5 second walk next door. 3 older little heavy / chubby sitting outside.
New Medika 400 k 35 girls.
Next street over closer to the hospital. Two entrances. One entrance across from Indramaret. The second on the back side which has the girls. It was two rooms connected with a hallway. Mamasan approaches me and I tell her what I want. She shows me the 2 girls closest to us. They were ok. I might have taken one but I said no because I am pissed off on how they just grab the first girl rather than what I asked for. She then yells out I want thin with big boobs which of course makes them shy. I walk away and look down the rows of girls. I see 2 with big boobs. Not sure if skinny or not. They are hiding form me. I make eye contact but they are shy now from the big mouth mamasan or just not interested. Wonderful damn start. I walk into the far room and sit down for 15 minutes to watch a few girls walk by. They show no interest and no mamasans come to talk to me so I leave.
I will return again next year on a Saturday night at 8:00 pm and see what happens.
XXX.
(east side) Kelapa Gading.
Almost straight east of Classic Hotel when looking on a map.
There is a street that runs in front of Mall of Indonesia with the brothel girls on the other side. I like to walk but it is near impossible to walk across that street. There are no stop lights for about 2 kilometers so everything is flying past you. So you have to walk 3 kilometers or more around just to cross the street!
One the right (east) side of the street all within a group like the girls on the other side in a group. I got the prices but not always the times and no idea how many girls. I was tired, got a late start, and the places closed earlier than expected. This info was taken on a Wednesday night.
550 k 90 minutes Mango Three Massage.
750 k D'Heaven.
430 k 1 hour Bro & Sis Massage (formerly Bosses).
315 k 1 hour Blow Art (BJ only). 10 pm only one girl who was small but sexy. I should have asked her if she would have had sex but didn't.
? Happy Massage across from Blow Art (HJ only).
The left (west) side of the street.
84 k entrance fee Kings Cross. I asked how much the girls were and she said I had to ask the mamasan. I do not know if the entrance fee includes free drink or can be applied to the cost of the girl if I take a girl. So many other places with free or super cheap fees and since she was stupid not knowing the cost of the girls I left. That was all I needed to know.
645 k 90 minutes Vermouth Lounge and Spa. There were 2 cashiers. I returned 20 minutes later and only the one sexy cashier was there. She was hot. I asked her if I could take her and she said no. I left crying.
570 k 1 hour MTR2. 7 girls at 10:45. I did not take inventory of their looks. Midnight is closing time so mentally they have already checked out and will rush it. They had 2 papasans rather than mamasans which I am not particularly fond of. Also, they asked me if I wanted a drink first versus the norm I am used to with asking me if I want a girl first.
500 k 1 hour Permata Karaoke and Spa. At 11:00 there were only 6 girls and none that I wanted. Closing at midnight. I asked where all the girls were and he said they went home already.
Sumo Spa told me no girls for fun, only massage. I do not believe.
Delta Spa. No damned idea. Place was already closed at 11:00.
Crossed "The Street" at 11:15 pm and still dangerous.
Seems as if Kelapa Gading all closes by 11 and midnight. All info gained in one day. I gave up rather quickly. Five cockroaches ran away when I turned on the light to my room at MP Hotel. I left the next day even though I paid for 2 nights. I ordered onion rings and calamari from the hotel restaurant but no calamari. I went to the mall and walked past a restaurant with several signs. One was orange chicken which I have not had forever. Can you guess what was out of stock? There was a 24 hour KFC and Taco Bell. Went there around midnight and of course the Taco Bell I wanted was closed but the KFC I did not want was open. Then there was the insanely impossible street I could barely cross. Higher prices of the girls with earlier closing times of the bars / spas. Everything screamed "get out" so I did. But before I left I scored my calamari at Master Squid in Mall of Indonesia. Thin strips in powder of seaweed, cheese, BBQ, or salt and pepper that they baked rather than battered and fried.
XXXXX.
Some guys say you will not be refused. BS. I have been refused 9+ times and even more silent rejections where I can tell they do not want to go with me. Several because I can take a long time to finish and they do not want to go through the same ordeal again. I get that and totally understand. They tell some of their friends and the friends refuse to go with me. I had trouble with a few girls and the friends believe her of course. Two (maybe more) yelled out I wanted thin with big boobs so that is demeaning and embarrassing so the girls hide like in New Medika happened to me. Some see me butterfly and refuse to see me again and the list goes on. Several I rejected because they never smiled or made eye contact. No words needed. I can read the signs.
Some guys say all the girls go no condom. BS. I have had several street girls and many spa girls demand it. In fact, there is a bar that demands it. Kota Indah 'V Four Club' nearest the entrance to the complex with door facing the street. Go to pay for the girl and the mamasan and female boss both say "cap" to me. What is that? That is their word for condom. Never heard that used anywhere else. Took another girl the next day and two of the mamasan types say "cap" to me again. I never tried to not use the condom so I do not know if the girl would let me or not. But if they are saying it to me twice each visit then they surely have most of the girls trained.
Some guys say the mamasans are so helpful. BS. Pay attention. Best seen at Kota Indah bars where the girls sit 6 deep. The mamas always grab the girls sitting at the customer tables or the closest girls meaning the first 1-3 deep. Never had them pull a girl from the back sitting at position 4, 5, or 6 in the very back.
Mama Cha Cha told me the girl I wanted to repeat with would be there at 4:00 the next day. Walked in at 4:10 to give her a few more minutes. Excuse is the girl is putting on her makeup. I said great I hate all the makeup. She can put it on after we are done. Mama says she is not ready and does not want to come out not looking pretty. I told her she (the mama) is lying. Now the story is the girl is at the salon. I was pissed and let her know it. Took a girl from a different mama.
Please do not tell long yellow fruit child I am here! Just kidding. I am not here.
Nuttin Serious
08-08-24, 00:33
LoveItHere69.Thank you for all the research and honest report.
What day of the week were you at Kepala Gading? Wondering if some nights close later than others.
Landing around August 18.
PM me if anybody wants to meet up.
Zippos, check again please. IDR1,500,000 is $93 and not $930 unless you wanted to type IDR 15,000,000 and made an error. If its just $93 I am game.The fee for the Multiple Visa is IDR 15,000,000 (15 Million).
~BKK
I definitely missed Zeros somewhere down the line 😁. Here the is screenshot.
Zippos, check again please. IDR1,500,000 is $93 and not $930 unless you wanted to type IDR 15,000,000 and made an error. If it’s just $93 I am game.
(nNrth side).
Glow Spa 500 k 1 hour.
Across from Travel Hotel. Opened early June and I went there late June. I walked into the entrance room 1.5 m x 1.5 m with a desk and 3-4 guys standing there making it very small. I did not like that. They have a list of 5-6 offerings (HJ, BJ, sex.). But I can get 2 girls for that across the street so I walked out.
Mari Enjoy 300 k 13 girls.
Three streets north of Burger King. Across from Paragon Mall. You are on the correct street when you turn around and see Abuba Steak sign across the street. Bar is on your left. Someone will greet you outside most times. Place is a dump. 1 towel. No tissue to clean up. I took a nice 5 foot girl there, an Oriental face tall girl who had baby damage but firm boobs and laughed a lot, and one other. They get up from sitting rather slowly so I thought they did not want me, but in the room they were fine. All 3 either liked sex or were great actresses that was the thing for me. It was like they had not had any for a while. There is a massage place just past it is just a massage place. The karaoke across is just a karaoke place..Thanks for those new places, I didn't ever go to Pondok Indah and places close to Taruma Hospital. It will change from Classic, Travel and KI.
In Kelapa Gading, I recommend you Blow Art where you get blow without condom, not the hottest girls, but cool girls, and very good experience! It is just so far away.
Granite St8
08-09-24, 01:51
Arrived 10 pm Thurs night. It's just one small room with loud music bumping, 15-20 girls sitting on a bench on one side and a few large booths across from them. There were a few large groups and dudes just lined up on the remaining wall bench space. Had a junior high school dance feel with all the girls on one side and the dudes on the other and nobody dancing yet. I repeated with a girl from last year so didn't have to stand on the sidelines to check out the talent. Quality of girls are nice but I would come early as it's not conducive to sit and hang if busy since it is a small spot. Session includes massage first, rooms are decent, 450 k.
You will be surprised to see the atmosphere hasn't changed when returning next year. Even local Jakartan struggled sometimes. If you are drinking, watch what you are paying for! I guess only reason they are still in business is a good percentage of 7/8 standard girls and it's more of a pub setup for you to eat drink and have fun with the companion of a pretty girl. And yes, you are paying for the time.
Sumo definitely offers full meal deal considering you get there noon to evening. I guess any later than that, their girls status goes to "Battery about to die ".
(nNrth side).
New Medika 400 k 35 girls.
Next street over closer to the hospital. Two entrances. One entrance across from Indramaret. The second on the back side which has the girls. It was two rooms connected with a hallway. Mamasan approaches me and I tell her what I want. She shows me the 2 girls closest to us. They were ok. I might have taken one but I said no because I am pissed off on how they just grab the first girl rather than what I asked for. She then yells out I want thin with big boobs which of course makes them shy. I walk away and look down the rows of girls. I see 2 with big boobs. Not sure if skinny or not. They are hiding form me. I make eye contact but they are shy now from the big mouth mamasan or just not interested. Wonderful damn start. I walk into the far room and sit down for 15 minutes to watch a few girls walk by. They show no interest and no mamasans come to talk to me so I leave.
I will return again next year on a Saturday night at 8:00 pm and see what happens.
Sumo Spa told me no girls for fun, only massage. I do not believe.
Please do not tell long yellow fruit child I am here! Just kidding. I am not here.
Returning the favor to those that provided field reports.
Visa.
I tried several times to obtain the evisa but could not figure out how to pay. So arrived at CGK with no evisa and expected to wait one hour in the VOA line. It took about 8 minutes and I had my visa. Don't forget to follow up by scanning the QR code. You'll know what I mean when you arrive.
Grab / Taxi.
I read a recent post about finding Grab past the "Bluebird stand. " I had no idea what is Bluebird so I found a taxi stand outside. 360,000 to my hotel in Central. Not a bad price. I then realized I was at the Bluebird stand LOL.
Hotel.
I checked into the Luminor Pecengognongogngognognnananan about 2 hours from deplaning. I saw a massage services sign in the lobby. Checked into my room and showered and then called for massage.
15 min later, knocking on my door. I expected a granny but was surprised to find a pretty 30's lady. I could tell her ass was about 10 pounds heavy. The massage was very good. Then she offered an HJ. I overpaid because I let the little head do the thinking.
Emporium.
After my massage I went to Emporium. It is literally next door to Luminor. I was introduced to David and he had me take a seat and sat with me to discuss what I liked. There were about 10 girls each for the 1. 2 and 1. 4 groups. I really could not tell the difference. I selected a thin and beautiful girl.
Locker. Pool. Then off to a room. Fun times!
I noticed: They have a very large staff. They are very organized. The facilities are very clean. [Deleted by Admin]
Tinder.
Later that night, Tinder1 arrived at my hotel for an overnight. She was tight! I needed a running start to bottom out my nuts. Sweet girl. I may see her again.
Saturday, met up with Tinder2. Age 22 but later when naked, her body looked older. If you take away the fake lashes, fake dyed hair, lipstick, etc, I think she was probably a 5.
Then I followed up with Tinder3. I thought it was strange she messaged me on Tinder and asked if I want a massage. I should have gone with my instincts and deleted her but the little head told me otherwise.
Then I thought it was strange that she asked for my name and room number instead of accepting my offer to meet her outside the hotel. Little head, again.
She texted me and said she was waiting in the lobby in front of the elevators. She wore a mask. Told her remove mask. Catfish! She said she was with an agency and then called them. I needed her to leave and I needed to avoid getting stabbed so I gave her some IDR and told her bye bye.
Then later I get a whatsapp from a "girl" that texted "Hi. Do you remember me?" Her whatsapp name is "Massage Traditional. " I replied "how did we meet?" She wrote back and said she saw my Tinder location was Jakarta. It must have been same scamming agency! So I blocked that a-hole.
The End.
I went back about 100 pages but the info I needed was not cut and dry. I was wondering if one of you kind gents could answer a question for me please. When it comes to Hotel Classic or the massage places and the like, is it possible to pay for all the services by card or better yet a mobile wallet app? Minus tips of course being in cash.
Considering the low amounts you can withdraw per transaction, I want to minimize my trips to the ATM.
Classic, Emporium, KC, MTR, 1001, Malio all takes cards. I remember seeing card options in other places like Kimochi, Groovy, Orchid too but I wouldn't use my card in Kota Indah or similar type places. You are better off using Visa instead MC / Amex. Go with Google Pay if you have that option. Unfortunately no Apple Pay available in Indonesia yet.
Don't just handout the card to hostess / receptionist. Ask to hand over the machine itself so that you can do the swipe or insert.
I went back about 100 pages but the info I needed was not cut and dry. I was wondering if one of you kind gents could answer a question for me please. When it comes to Hotel Classic or the massage places and the like, is it possible to pay for all the services by card or better yet a mobile wallet app? Minus tips of course being in cash.
Considering the low amounts you can withdraw per transaction, I want to minimize my trips to the ATM.
Or you could just get an account with Charles Schwab or Fidelity Cash Management (which reimburse all foreign ATM fees) and use that card to withdraw IDR at ATMs in Jakarta.To follow up on some of the ATM options, HSBC across and down from Grand Paragon Mall allowed 3 million withdrawal with US $2. 50 fee and no conversion. I suspect it might even allow a larger withdrawal if you have any HSBC affiliated account. It's about 10 minute walk from HI hotel.
Does anyone know from what time of the day are there enough girls here for a visit?A few guys already replied to this post, and loads of reports have covered Classic in detail, but from discussion several weeks ago it seems that there was still some confusion about specific names, times, and locations of the different Classic venues. The photo below is from the listing just inside the hotel lobby. I suspect most guys don't have any reason to venture to that back entrance unless they stay at the hotel. I popped the pic at 1 pm on an early Aug weekday and everything was absolutely empty. All the guards were saying come back after 2. There were a few hungry looking mongers seated about in different lobby spots, but cafes weren't even open yet.
The second pic below was a very small sign on the reception desk laying out Classic Spa prices.
Returning the favor to those that provided field reports.
Visa.
I tried several times to obtain the evisa but could not figure out how to pay. So arrived at CGK with no evisa and expected to wait one hour in the VOA line. It took about 8 minutes and I had my visa. Don't forget to follow up by scanning the QR code. You'll know what I mean when you arrive.
Grab / Taxi.
I read a recent post about finding Grab past the "Bluebird stand. " I had no idea what is Bluebird so I found a taxi stand outside. 360,000 to my hotel in Central. Not a bad price. I then realized I was at the Bluebird stand LOL.I guess the eVOA lines vary according to airline arrival traffic. They seem to arrive in batches at different times and on different days. The night I arrive I was surprised to see so many midnight arriving flights. I wasnt even sure anything would be open at that time, but much of the airport operated as usual after midnight. The eVOA was horribly long when I saw it. Glad you didn't need to wait.
Yeah the Bluebird stand is the Bluebird taxi. Its the first thing you see out of the exit. I think they use meters, 360 k seems a bit expensive. Its only around 200 k to HI with toll, give or take 20 k, and even though Luminor is a little farther than HI, it should only be an extra 30-40 k. So maybe its worth walking an extra minute down to Grab to get a lower price, but I'm not sure about that.
Expat American
08-11-24, 13:43
I went back about 100 pages but the info I needed was not cut and dry. I was wondering if one of you kind gents could answer a question for me please. When it comes to Hotel Classic or the massage places and the like, is it possible to pay for all the services by card or better yet a mobile wallet app? Minus tips of course being in cash.
Considering the low amounts you can withdraw per transaction, I want to minimize my trips to the ATM.Yes it is. Mamasan may prefer cash in Terminal but if you say you are out of cash and want to pay by card they will take you to the cashier to do that. In Classic Spa, Emporium etc the entire bill is settled at the end with your card or cash. Girls prefer tips in cash but will take them any which way. I've used my CC regularly and had no issues.
AddictedToWomen
08-11-24, 14:12
A few guys already replied to this post, and loads of reports have covered Classic in detail, but from discussion several weeks ago it seems that there was still some confusion about specific names, times, and locations of the different Classic venues. The photo below is from the listing just inside the hotel lobby. I suspect most guys don't have any reason to venture to that back entrance unless they stay at the hotel. I popped the pic at 1 pm on an early Aug weekday and everything was absolutely empty. All the guards were saying come back after 2. There were a few hungry looking mongers seated about in different lobby spots, but cafes weren't even open yet.
The second pic below was a very small sign on the reception desk laying out Classic Spa prices.Damn. There's more places on there than I was aware of! I guess I need to go through the posts again.
Many thanks.
I saw two old white guys walk in. I felt sorry for the girls they chose. Yuck!
.Nice report, but be careful what you write. There is a huge chance those are ISG members LOL. Yikes.
Nice report, but be careful what you write. There is a huge chance those are ISG members LOL. Yikes.Agreed. Enjoyed the report but bad comment.
Jakarta really is a place that drains you out, not only arguably the best value punting in Asia but another post mentioned Tinder a few times. Girls are pretty direct, there are quite a lot of freebies to be had.
I noticed: They have a very large staff. They are very organized. The facilities are very clean. I saw two old white guys walk in. I felt sorry for the girls they chose. Yuck!
Hopefully most of us will live to become old white / black / brown / yellow guys some day. You too my friend.
Hung Man 1808
08-11-24, 18:29
When it comes to Hotel Classic or the massage places and the like, is it possible to pay for all the services by card or better yet a mobile wallet app? Minus tips of course being in cash.Card. Yes.
Mobile wallet? Maybe. Or maybe not.
This ended up way longer than planned due to minimum characters.
Hi Vendelo, so you had 3 sessions on the first day post landing. And similar number or one less if I can understand from your post. Right is it? I am not even mid 50's and lead a healthy lifestyle and eating habits and look 10 years young but the body does not give me the desired result; my refractory period is long. Daily basis, I cannot sustain it. Mind sharing your age as I do wish to hit at least 2 or 3 next time when I am there. My problem I know is that I need intimacy and not slam bang thank you maam kind of sessions. Am I missing something? I did not go to classic or any other similar kind of places on my 2 trips to this city, spent nearly 20 days in totality. Stuck with only Emporium, Tinder and a few pick ups from bars like Bat's and CJs.
I did go to Sariayu once, spent approximately 2 hours and had my drinks of whiskey there and paid by Credit card. The chick price also I could have paid by card but did not muster enough guts to choose a girl and fuck in their room upstairs. No one bothered and disturbed me as I was simply sitting on the sofa and enjoyed my drinks.
Regards.
Hi Vendelo, so you had 3 sessions on the first day post landing. And similar number or one less if I can understand from your post. Right is it? I am not even mid 50's and lead a healthy lifestyle and eating habits and look 10 years young but the body does not give me the desired result; my refractory period is long. Daily basis, I cannot sustain it. Mind sharing your age as I do wish to hit at least 2 or 3 next time when I am there. My problem I know is that I need intimacy and not slam bang thank you maam kind of sessions. Am I missing something? I did not go to classic or any other similar kind of places on my 2 trips to this city, spent nearly 20 days in totality. Stuck with only Emporium, Tinder and a few pick ups from bars like Bat's and CJs.
I did go to Sariayu once, spent approximately 2 hours and had my drinks of whiskey there and paid by Credit card. The chick price also I could have paid by card but did not muster enough guts to choose a girl and fuck in their room upstairs. No one bothered and disturbed me as I was simply sitting on the sofa and enjoyed my drinks.
Regards.DS, I will send you a PM.
Update for what it is worth:
Tinder: This is my first time using Tinder. Indo girls will reply unlike Thai girls on TF. BUT! They are unreliable. You will be messaging a girl back and forth for a few minutes and then she disappears for days (as described recently by another poster). Be cautious, I was engaged by two Catfish. The sign: she will ask you right away if you want a massage and provide her WA. Ask her to vchat and I guarantee she will never contact you again.
Bakso: Evidently, bakso is a meatball dish you must try. Five! People have told me to eat Bakso and to visit Bali.
ATM: Previous poster was correct when he wrote ATM max withdrawal in 2,000,000.
Sidewalks: Prev poster was correct. Expect to sprain ankles and get run over.
Hello Honorable Gents.
Thanks for all the advice shared on this forum. I've done my RTFF over 100-200 pages and it helped get me ready for Jakarta touchdown. Even with all the info, there are still some things that creep up. I have a comment and question for those of you who have been posting about your Jakarta mobile app hookups in recent months.
Like some of you, even with all the cheap and accessible girls at the bars and spas in Jakarta, the wham bam thing isn't my first choice. ID prefer go go bars, but theyre not available here and going out of style. I'm old fashioned and would rather chat up girls at wild loud music bars, but those are nearly extinct too. Even though I f'ing hate texting, online meetups are more interesting for me for banging out 2-3 shots over a longer term session.
I've been hooking up with with civvie and PPM girls via mobile apps (Tdr / Wechat / TF) around Asia since they came out around a decade ago. It's bagged me some amazing freebie / WG Asian pussy in varying flavors, but it has not come without its risks, especially for WGs. I've had encounters that I barely squeezed out of: swarms of catfish; girls agreeing to one price upfront then changing the terms & conditions / price back at the room (even when naked); fights over paying before or after the deed; pre- and post-op LB shocks; runners, you name it.
Even as all the great sex has fed the addiction, the frequent bad experiences have really made me paranoid about taking strangers to my room. I now screen pretty heavily, insisting on video call first and then meeting nearby hotel for a 2nd check of the goods, still cautious until we get down to biz.
My comment is that in Jakarta, you get blasted with matches. On tdr, I limited my search to 18-27 yo within 5 miles and got 175 matches in 3 days. Around 25 of those pinged me immediately sending / asking for whatsapp and offering to come to my room. Same with MiChat People Around Me I couldn't even keep up with all of them. One whatsapp girl just flat out told me "I'm coming to your hotel" before I even said anything (I told her no and blocked). As Vendelo mentioned, requesting video calls will make most disappear. For me, once on whatsapp I requested video calls and all but 2 went silent. Of those 2, I had 1 good video call with potential freebie but she was a bit chubby for my taste, and another who just gave me visual but no audio then hung up. I blocked her because I insist on hearing voice in case of LB. (In PH there were LBs trying to fake a high pitched girls voice on the video call, fucking joke.).
Based on all the successful reports from bros doing mobile app mongering in this forum, the risks don't seem to be as high in Jakarta as in places like PH or TH, and even with all the catfish, there seems to be a pretty good balance between risk and return in Jakarta.
My questions:
- Specifically, a big question with pulling mobile FLs and WGs in many countries is when to pay? Business practices vary widely from place to place and can cause major probs. Of course I aint going to send any digital money and will only give tip at the end, but what is standard MO in Jakarta for cash transaction: to pay when she enters the room or when she leaves? I presume all payment is made just as she leaves, but I want to hear it from you fuckers mouths. And for the guys who will want to boast "I never pay up front anywhere", we all know its more complicated than that, so ID appreciate some practical advice here. I don't do much PM so preferably on discussion forum.
- And in general, would you guys who have done Tdr / Bumbl / Michat hookups in Jakarta say that risk level is lower for really bad shit happening than in TH / PH, or do you still need airtight security?
Thanks for advice men.
Banana Boi
08-12-24, 12:56
ATM: Previous poster was correct when he wrote ATM max withdrawal in 2,000,000.Was told by my friend who lives there that ATM's at the malls for certain banks usually allow you to take out more money.
Looked at some old bank receipts. In early 2024 I took out 3,000,000 From CIMB Niaga in the Harris Vertu Harmoni mall. In summer, 2024 took out 2,500,000 from BCA at Grand Indonesia mall.
No big deal even if it's 2,000,000 max you can do multiple transactions consecutively to load up like I do.
HSBC across and down from Grand Paragon Mall allowed 3 million withdrawal with US $2. 50 fee and no conversion.
Good to know. Thanks. Convenient for those who stay at Santika which seems popular here.
Here is my SOP for meeting FL / Tinder / Bumble / Cupid / Badoo.
1. Find out what is she offering and if she is expecting any money in exchange if so, how much.
2. Do a video call is a must. I used to give out my main WhatsApp number before but ended up finding spammers. Now a days I would open second WhatsApp with local number and only give that one. Also, I prefer telegram over WhatsApp. Easy to manage. Any girl who would not want to show herself full on video and speak, that's a catfish, Simple. If she says, she is shy, well good for you, find a different trade.
3. Definitely meet in a public place such as mall. Excuse is to grab a bite. More options for you to ditch that girl if that's not what you were expecting. Yeah, on occasions some might cause a racket, just walk away. Also, you can bring them to your hotel lobby if you are comfortable with the video chat. I simply never give room number despite they pull the "security" card.
4. I always make an agreement of payment at end of the session with an option of tips if good service is provided. "If you are expecting a payment upon entering the room, please don't come", that's my simple answer. Some might say, I don't have money to book a grab, simple solution is, either you book it for them or pay grab driver once she arrives but do check / ask how much would the fair.
5. Needless to say, keep your valuables in safe and don't have a stack of cash handy for her to pull any stunts. Just enough to pay her and some tips money just to keep her motivated.
Comparison: I find Indo risk factor is definitely lower than PH / TH / Malaysia. I have had many surprises in TH / PH. TH girls are not necessarily a scammer but more tricky with a percentage of being LB. PH are pure scammers with an odd percentage being real. I once told a LB, why impersonate as a woman and turn into a chaos, he / she answered, because they have needs and most cases people would pay just to get rid of them! I guess it works for them. In respect to airtight security, never let your guard down, doesn't matter if you are meeting the same person for 3rd time. Always keep your cellphone with you even if you are going to the washroom.
Often these girls would say, she is hungry and didn't eat anything. Game is to waste more of your time and money. Happened to me many times. My simple answer is, I have some leftovers or cookies or whatever I have and you can eat it. If she complains about the food, well "I am not a restaurant and you can have if you don't have energy to perform". 90% of the time this will solve the problem.
Another scenario is, girl would give you an impression of liking you a lot and would like to stay lover / overnight with you! Solution one, you are feeling sick / exhausted and you want to sleep peacefully and you will meet her again tomorrow. Solution 2, clearly get your expectations and number straightened out before accepting her offer. Now, some may say they really like you and won't need anything! Not saying it never happens but treat it as "too good to be true" and simply quote a number that you are comfortable with and clearly tell her that, you only have that much to give her in the morning as Taxi money. I had a girl insisted of going to ATM / money exchange to give her remaining, I simply told her let's go eat something and once out of my place in a mall, I simply told her to meet on a later time as I'm not feeling well and just walk away.
Hope these helps.
Hello Honorable Gents.
My questions:
- Specifically, a big question with pulling mobile FLs and WGs in many countries is when to pay? Business practices vary widely from place to place and can cause major probs. Of course I aint going to send any digital money and will only give tip at the end, but what is standard MO in Jakarta for cash transaction: to pay when she enters the room or when she leaves? I presume all payment is made just as she leaves, but I want to hear it from you fuckers mouths. And for the guys who will want to boast "I never pay up front anywhere", we all know its more complicated than that, so ID appreciate some practical advice here. I don't do much PM so preferably on discussion forum.
- And in general, would you guys who have done Tdr / Bumbl / Michat hookups in Jakarta say that risk level is lower for really bad shit happening than in TH / PH, or do you still need airtight security?
Thanks for advice men.
Expat American
08-12-24, 17:12
My questions:
- Specifically, a big question with pulling mobile FLs and WGs in many countries is when to pay? Business practices vary widely from place to place and can cause major probs. Of course I aint going to send any digital money and will only give tip at the end, but what is standard MO in Jakarta for cash transaction: to pay when she enters the room or when she leaves? I presume all payment is made just as she leaves, but I want to hear it from you fuckers mouths. And for the guys who will want to boast "I never pay up front anywhere", we all know its more complicated than that, so ID appreciate some practical advice here. I don't do much PM so preferably on discussion forum.
- And in general, would you guys who have done Tdr / Bumbl / Michat hookups in Jakarta say that risk level is lower for really bad shit happening than in TH / PH, or do you still need airtight security?
Thanks for advice men.If you truly have been playing the game in Asia as you say, you should know that you always pay after. If the girl asks for money up front worst case she's a total scammer and best case is she's a hardened pro. A true civvy will not mention any kind of money and will not even look at how much you hand her or discretely place in her purse. A decent FL will also accept payment after the deed but will discuss the price upfront. But honestly, why go all the way to Jakarta to just sit and scroll on a phone and hope for the best? The bars and brothels and Spas have thousands of girls you can actually see, talk to, touch and assess before turning over your $30 to go fuck them. You are missing the best of the city but to each their own. I would use Tinder etc strictly for non pros and on site venues for paid fucks. But to each their own I suppose.
I'd say Jakarta is even more like the Wild West than Bangkok but in reality it's pretty fine. You are much more likely to get run over than anything else bad happen to you in all honesty.
There are many Muslim girls who are wanting some fun, as they can only marry Muslim but can date anyone. Which kinda opens up the door for flings. On the downside typically out of every 100 girls I would swipe Left on probably 90% of them, I'm not super fussy but I do like an athletic build and vast majority do not have anything like that shape. But I also got quite a few matches with those that did.
My comment is that in Jakarta, you get blasted with matches. On tdr, I limited my search to 18-27 yo within 5 miles and got 175 matches in 3 days. Around 25 of those pinged me immediately sending / asking for whatsapp and offering to come to my room. Same with MiChat People Around Me I couldn't even keep up with all of them. One whatsapp girl just flat out told me "I'm coming to your hotel" before I even said anything (I told her no and blocked). As Vendelo mentioned, requesting video calls will make most disappear. For me, once on whatsapp I requested video calls and all but 2 went silent. Of those 2, I had 1 good video call with potential freebie but she was a bit chubby for my taste, and another who just gave me visual but no audio then hung up. I blocked her because I insist on hearing voice in case of LB. (In PH there were LBs trying to fake a high pitched girls voice on the video call, fucking joke.).
Wow, you must be one handsome devil. I didn't count the number of matches I got during my four-five days, but I don't think it was much above 20, which is rather good for ugly me.
Of those I think only 3-4 were p4 p girls, who I did not engage with. Two I met. One at a shopping mall (first time I went away from my hotel area during my stay, so though that was interesting enough), where we walked to a coffee shop and had some cake. Spent an hour together I guess, but she was immune to my charm and did not go back with me. One turned up at my hotel before work, rather ready to bang.
The rest of the matches just fizzled out. One actually messaged me some days ago, one week after I last messaged her. No idea what she's thinking, but I'm thinking I'll just keep those matches on my phone, unless they unmatch me. If I visit Thailand and Jakarta again in December, I'll just message them again like half a year did not pass between my message and their message.
My questions:
- Specifically, a big question with pulling mobile FLs and WGs in many countries is when to pay? Business practices vary widely from place to place and can cause major probs. Of course I aint going to send any digital money and will only give tip at the end, but what is standard MO in Jakarta for cash transaction: to pay when she enters the room or when she leaves? I presume all payment is made just as she leaves, but I want to hear it from you fuckers mouths. And for the guys who will want to boast "I never pay up front anywhere", we all know its more complicated than that, so ID appreciate some practical advice here. I don't do much PM so preferably on discussion forum.
- And in general, would you guys who have done Tdr / Bumbl / Michat hookups in Jakarta say that risk level is lower for really bad shit happening than in TH / PH, or do you still need airtight security?
Thanks for advice men.I have mongered asia, USA, mexico, ukraine.
Only a few times has the girl asked to be paid upfront. And yes, I paid upfront and was not ripped off.
Its my first time to Jakarta and day 1 was quite amazing.
Landed early at 7. 45, EOAV was quite quick, it took only three minutes to clear it and waited a bit to catch the Crab taxi to the Redtop hotel. Since its early, the room will be ready after 12. I decided to take the massage from the hotel. Went to the 5th floor and picked a girl who is quite tall compared to any local ones. They have converted a few rooms for massage. I waited in the room, she came and straight asked me any services do you want I said except sex. Where I was just landed thought to relax a bit to hold my energy for the evening. After a negotiation agreed 400 k one HJ and one solid BJ. She went outside and come back undressed and huddle for a few minutes, she was asking me to fuck for the same price, but I was not in a mood. After a few minutes HJ done in a standing position I like that. Then right after washed and started sucking my boy for a few minutes with various techniques, almost 10-12 minutes she was tired took a break and started again finally with some techniques she used on my balls and I cum in her mouth. She was shocked and didn't say anything. Paid the counter 350 k. Its bit expensive but I want to cover the time. Came down the room was ready.
I went to Classic hotel around 7 pm. They said only on 2nd floor. There were two girls sitting opposite to each other before entering the room. On the right side the girl put some robe with a number on my hand Then entered, a few old women came to me and try to impress with their girls. One of the women brought two young girls to my table without any questions. I liked both of them from the group. She quoted 500 k for both and its my long wish to spend time with two girls I decided to go with that option. Paid the fees and both of the grils took me to the basement one of the rooms. Angie and Abel (not sure real names) Angie have a baby and Able was 19 years old and has a tight pussy, it took me a few minutes to insert my dick to her. Undressed and one by one showered with me. Then came to the bed try to interact but couldn't be due to communication challenges. Angie was set the plan, First Able (young one) will suck my dick and Angie will suck my nipples to create mood then I fuck Abel and the change the position for the second round. Abel was started sucking my dick (my third time release) after a few minutes she put a condom (I insisted) and the came on top. Her pussy was tight, and it took a lot of challenges and put enough of gel on her and finally somewhat I inserted she was riding on top and other side Angie was sucking my nippes after a few minutes I came in her. Cleaned again and came to the bed and rested for a minute and the second round started with Angie, I decided to give a full BJ with her mouth if she can. She started sucking my balls and then dick, Abel was sucking my nipples and my hands were on Abel's body allover, After a solid 10 minutes she was tired and gave up, I asked Abel to swap and she cleaned my dick with wet tissue and started sucking for a while and went a below than my balls and I decided to fuck her again, put a condom and started doggy for a few minutes and removed the condom and put my dick to Angie's mouth who was watching us fucking, and cum in her mouth giving HJ to myself. Entire session took almost 50 minutes and gave some tips and left the room happily. The I went to counter paid the bills and got a boarding pass (yes boarding pass) to go out.
If you have two right girls and threesome is just magic It happened to me and they were requested to come again today.
If you truly have been playing the game in Asia as you say, you should know that you always pay after. If the girl asks for money up front worst case she's a total scammer and best case is she's a hardened pro. A true civvy will not mention any kind of money and will not even look at how much you hand her or discretely place in her purse. A decent FL will also accept payment after the deed but will discuss the price upfront. But honestly, why go all the way to Jakarta to just sit and scroll on a phone and hope for the best? The bars and brothels and Spas have thousands of girls you can actually see, talk to, touch and assess before turning over your $30 to go fuck them. You are missing the best of the city but to each their own. I would use Tinder etc strictly for non pros and on site venues for paid fucks. But to each their own I suppose.Another reason why a girl may ask for payment first is she may have been ripped off in the past. I've heard / read numerous stories like this.
You sir is a master gambler. I envy your luck. Me on the other hand got ripped of several times on my beginners sexpedition stage that led me to draw a conclusion of not worth the risk despite how small the amount is.
Nonetheless happy for you.
I have mongered asia, USA, mexico, ukraine.
Only a few times has the girl asked to be paid upfront. And yes, I paid upfront and was not ripped off.
Finally another positive report on Classic. Glad you enjoyed your session and luck was definitely on your side. Have fun on your remaining days.
Its my first time to Jakarta and day 1 was quite amazing.
Landed early at 7. 45, EOAV was quite quick, it took only three minutes to clear it and waited a bit to catch the Crab taxi to the Redtop hotel. Since its early, the room will be ready after 12. I decided to take the massage from the hotel. Went to the 5th floor and picked a girl who is quite tall compared to any local ones. They have converted a few rooms for massage. I waited in the room, she came and straight asked me any services do you want I said except sex. Where I was just landed thought to relax a bit to hold my energy for the evening. After a negotiation agreed 400 k one HJ and one solid BJ. She went outside and come back undressed and huddle for a few minutes, she was asking me to fuck for the same price, but I was not in a mood. After a few minutes HJ done in a standing position I like that. Then right after washed and started sucking my boy for a few minutes with various techniques, almost 10-12 minutes she was tired took a break and started again finally with some techniques she used on my balls and I cum in her mouth. She was shocked and didn't say anything. Paid the counter 350 k. Its bit expensive but I want to cover the time. Came down the room was ready.
I went to Classic hotel around 7 pm. They said only on 2nd floor. There were two girls sitting opposite to each other before entering the room. On the right side the girl put some robe with a number on my hand Then entered, a few old women came to me and try to impress with their girls. One of the women brought two young girls to my table without any questions. I liked both of them from the group. She quoted 500 k for both and its my long wish to spend time with two girls I decided to go with that option. Paid the fees and both of the grils took me to the basement one of the rooms. Angie and Abel (not sure real names) Angie have a baby and Able was 19 years old and has a tight pussy, it took me a few minutes to insert my dick to her. Undressed and one by one showered with me. Then came to the bed try to interact but couldn't be due to communication challenges. Angie was set the plan, First Able (young one) will suck my dick and Angie will suck my nipples to create mood then I fuck Abel and the change the position for the second round. Abel was started sucking my dick (my third time release) after a few minutes she put a condom (I insisted) and the came on top. Her pussy was tight, and it took a lot of challenges and put enough of gel on her and finally somewhat I inserted she was riding on top and other side Angie was sucking my nippes after a few minutes I came in her. Cleaned again and came to the bed and rested for a minute and the second round started with Angie, I decided to give a full BJ with her mouth if she can. She started sucking my balls and then dick, Abel was sucking my nipples and my hands were on Abel's body allover, After a solid 10 minutes she was tired and gave up, I asked Abel to swap and she cleaned my dick with wet tissue and started sucking for a while and went a below than my balls and I decided to fuck her again, put a condom and started doggy for a few minutes and removed the condom and put my dick to Angie's mouth who was watching us fucking, and cum in her mouth giving HJ to myself. Entire session took almost 50 minutes and gave some tips and left the room happily. The I went to counter paid the bills and got a boarding pass (yes boarding pass) to go out.
If you have two right girls and threesome is just magic It happened to me and they were requested to come again today.
Here is my SOP for meeting FL / Tinder / Bumble / Cupid / Badoo.
1. Find out what is she offering and if she is expecting any money in exchange if so, how much.
2. Do a video call is a must. I used to give out my main WhatsApp number before but ended up finding spammers. Now a days I would open second WhatsApp with local number and only give that one. Also, I prefer telegram over WhatsApp. Easy to manage. Any girl who would not want to show herself full on video and speak, that's a catfish, Simple. If she says, she is shy, well good for you, find a different trade.
3. Definitely meet in a public place such as mall. Excuse is to grab a bite. More options for you to ditch that girl if that's not what you were expecting. Yeah, on occasions some might cause a racket, just walk away. Also, you can bring them to your hotel lobby if you are comfortable with the video chat. I simply never give room number despite they pull the "security" card.
4. I always make an agreement of payment at end of the session with an option of tips if good service is provided. "If you are expecting a payment upon entering the room, please don't come", that's my simple answer. Some might say, I don't have money to book a grab, simple solution is, either you book it for them or pay grab driver once she arrives but do check / ask how much would the fair.
5. Needless to say, keep your valuables in safe and don't have a stack of cash handy for her to pull any stunts. Just enough to pay her and some tips money just to keep her motivated.
Comparison: I find Indo risk factor is definitely lower than PH / TH / Malaysia. I have had many surprises in TH / PH. TH girls are not necessarily a scammer but more tricky with a percentage of being LB. PH are pure scammers with an odd percentage being real. I once told a LB, why impersonate as a woman and turn into a chaos, he / she answered, because they have needs and most cases people would pay just to get rid of them! I guess it works for them. In respect to airtight security, never let your guard down, doesn't matter if you are meeting the same person for 3rd time. Always keep your cellphone with you even if you are going to the washroom.
Often these girls would say, she is hungry and didn't eat anything. Game is to waste more of your time and money. Happened to me many times. My simple answer is, I have some leftovers or cookies or whatever I have and you can eat it. If she complains about the food, well "I am not a restaurant and you can have if you don't have energy to perform". 90% of the time this will solve the problem.
Another scenario is, girl would give you an impression of liking you a lot and would like to stay lover / overnight with you! Solution one, you are feeling sick / exhausted and you want to sleep peacefully and you will meet her again tomorrow. Solution 2, clearly get your expectations and number straightened out before accepting her offer. Now, some may say they really like you and won't need anything! Not saying it never happens but treat it as "too good to be true" and simply quote a number that you are comfortable with and clearly tell her that, you only have that much to give her in the morning as Taxi money. I had a girl insisted of going to ATM / money exchange to give her remaining, I simply told her let's go eat something and once out of my place in a mall, I simply told her to meet on a later time as I'm not feeling well and just walk away.
Hope these helps.Excellent strategy, Z. Thanks for closely reading my post and to you & other bros for replying. Different Asian destinations have different mixes of civvie-WG culture With so many different mongering tastes / experiences and unpredictability of FL behavior from country to country, its useful to have a SOP like this that's tailored to Jakarta. I think I blew a couple good Tdr freebie opportunities in Jakarta this month because I went overboard on security measures. Shit.
Like Z & V show in the last couple posts, its not as simple as just saying that you should always pay afterwards. Its really more that even though you know you should pay after, a lot of the FLs are not as decent as they should be. V mentions that some girls may have been ripped off in the past. This is the #1 reason they give me when they ask for money up front. For some its true and others it's a BS excuse for them to rip me off. So then what the fuck do you do when they don't want to leave quietly and won't accept anything less than the extorted amount, now without sex? I'm glad for you guys that never faced such a situation in any of your Asian adventures and hope you never do.
In addition to strategy, some guys must have good fortune, charm, or some kind of natural skill and agreeable manner in person or online. I have none of that. Werqweq, I'm just an average mid 50 ish looking guy starting to slouch. I don't even have a profile pic on MiChat. But I spent a few $ for a 30 minute Tdr boost during evening rush hour, so that must have put my profile to the front of the line in Jakarta. I just swiped right on everything that wasn't obvious LB or chubby, so I guess a few bucks paid off. But of the 175, only about 25 really looked good and most of them probably photoshopped.
So then what the fuck do you do when they don't want to leave quietly and won't accept anything less than the extorted amount, now without sex? I'm glad for you guys that never faced such a situation in any of your Asian adventures and hope you never do.
I have fortunately never experienced that, but if I did, I would call reception and ask them to send security. Tell them there is a person in your room that refuses to leave.
Sorry to hear you may have lost some regular girls that just wanted to get laid due to being perhaps overly paranoid. Assuming it's a proper hotel, I wouldn't particularly worry about meeting anyone downstairs in the lobby, sans any possible embarrassment. If it there turned out to be a ladyboy or something else strange I'd either just go alone back to the elevator, or if the creature decided to follow me, up to security and say the person is following me. That is a very real benefit of a hotel vs an airbnb rental, and is what I would have done if the girl who came to my Redtop hotel (the hijab girl, though not dressed in hijab when she arrived at my hotel) had turned out to be something strange.
A much bigger problem is that most regular girls aren't all that interested in meeting a guy for the first time at his hotel, though in my life I have experienced many exceptions, including a really hot 24 year old nurse babe last year in Bangkok, with some of the prettiest boobs I've seen (I"m 49 BTW, though perhaps unlike you I enjoy exercise and keeping in shape, which does give me an advantage). Showed up outside my condo at midnight for the first time, and I kept on banging her twice a week for the remaining four or so weeks I had left in Thailand.
So: don't automatically rule out girls willing to come to your hotel for the first meeting, just be a extra vigilant and know that most, but not all girls, will not want to admit to themselves they are meeting a guy for what is obvious, without any doubt whatsoever, getting banged. Amongst those who do, there are probably more than a few scammers.
One key tell-sign is if they appear to be eager to come to your room/hotel/apartment. No regular girl will appear eager, possibly unless you look like Henry Cavill. Fortunately, with experience it gets easier to make a judgement, and I'd bang my head against the wall the rest of my life I'd knew I'd lost the chance to bang nursebabe twice a week due to being overly paranoid.
Another reason why a girl may ask for payment first is she may have been ripped off in the past. I've heard / read numerous stories like this.True, that. Sometimes it helps to show her the money, so she can see that yes, at least you have it ready for her.
Glad to be in assistance. Needless to say, you didn't blew any but it wasn't meat to happen. Simple is that.
Don't put your self in that corner alone. We all been subject of scam to a degree. If I start writing my list of griefs, it would fill up the entire page. We live and learn and evolve.
Next time a girl tells you she was ripped off in past, tell her, she can take a chance of meeting you in person or she can look for the next one. Ball is in her court. Even if she gets paid in advance, what's the guarantee of her not becoming a victim of force. They are in a profession by choice and risk comes with it. If she is at risk of losing her money, you are no different there either.
Lastly, you don't need special skills or charm when it comes to FL. For a non-pro local, you have the upper hand when they knows you are not just a regular horny man. Your biggest advantage is privacy and money that you are offering to them where locals can't.
Excellent strategy, Z. Thanks for closely reading my post and to you & other bros for replying. Different Asian destinations have different mixes of civvie-WG culture With so many different mongering tastes / experiences and unpredictability of FL behavior from country to country, its useful to have a SOP like this that's tailored to Jakarta. I think I blew a couple good Tdr freebie opportunities in Jakarta this month because I went overboard on security measures. Shit.
Like Z & V show in the last couple posts, its not as simple as just saying that you should always pay afterwards. Its really more that even though you know you should pay after, a lot of the FLs are not as decent as they should be. V mentions that some girls may have been ripped off in the past. This is the #1 reason they give me when they ask for money up front. For some its true and others it's a BS excuse for them to rip me off. So then what the fuck do you do when they don't want to leave quietly and won't accept anything less than the extorted amount, now without sex? I'm glad for you guys that never faced such a situation in any of your Asian adventures and hope you never do.
In addition to strategy, some guys must have good fortune, charm, or some kind of natural skill and agreeable manner in person or online. I have none of that. Werqweq, I'm just an average mid 50 ish looking guy starting to slouch. I don't even have a profile pic on MiChat. But I spent a few $ for a 30 minute Tdr boost during evening rush hour, so that must have put my profile to the front of the line in Jakarta. I just swiped right on everything that wasn't obvious LB or chubby, so I guess a few bucks paid off. But of the 175, only about 25 really looked good and most of them probably photoshopped.
I missed this part, if I may chime in werqweq.
Almost all the hotels would require you to get to the lobby to bring your guest up or if you insist, girl will be accompanied by security. As I said on my previous post, don't bother give them your room number. Tell her to msg you once she is in lobby or even better meet her at a public place.
Another trick I would use is sit on the couch next to front desk and tell front desk to call my room despite me being right there. If I intervene, no issues. If I don't, front desk will just have to say, sorry he is not in the room. A hateful text involving my mother is much more convenient to deal with instead of dealing with a LB aka creature (love the name W. Now, to many of you, this may sounds dramatic or too much of an hassle but it does gets entertaining once you spot the scammer. You aren't pulling that stunt on a normal girl.
This juggles the memory of my first visit in Manila. As always, I had lined up several girls plus backups. I think it was day 6/7 when my MILF left and I was bored out of my mind messaged my backup who was in Antipolo. She immediately responded saying she can't wait to me and she is on her way to manila right now which was almost midnight! As you all know, if it's too good to be true, it's mostly not true! I didn't respond to her right away but kept her waiting and did a video call, I guess she wasn't expecting that but at the same time eager to come over, answered my call, what I saw was a very pretty creature without much of a makeup and camera filter you can guess the rest.
Unless I have met the girl before, I never tell them my room number and don't meet them in my hotel. Always in a mall or a restaurant. Safer and easier to ditch them without causing any scene.
I have fortunately never experienced that, but if I did, I would call reception and ask them to send security. Tell them there is a person in your room that refuses to leave.
Sorry to hear you may have lost some regular girls that just wanted to get laid due to being perhaps overly paranoid. Assuming it's a proper hotel, I wouldn't particularly worry about meeting anyone downstairs in the lobby, sans any possible embarrassment. If it there turned out to be a ladyboy or something else strange I'd either just go alone back to the elevator, or if the creature decided to follow me, up to security and say the person is following me. That is a very real benefit of a hotel vs an airbnb rental, and is what I would have done if the girl who came to my Redtop hotel (the hijab girl, though not dressed in hijab when she arrived at my hotel) had turned out to be something strange.
A much bigger problem is that most regular girls aren't all that interested in meeting a guy for the first time at his hotel, though in my life I have experienced many exceptions, including a really hot 24 year old nurse babe last year in Bangkok, with some of the prettiest boobs I've seen (I"m 49 BTW, though perhaps unlike you I enjoy exercise and keeping in shape, which does give me an advantage). Showed up outside my condo at midnight for the first time, and I kept on banging her twice a week for the remaining four or so weeks I had left in Thailand.
So: don't automatically rule out girls willing to come to your hotel for the first meeting, just be a extra vigilant and know that most, but not all girls, will not want to admit to themselves they are meeting a guy for what is obvious, without any doubt whatsoever, getting banged. Amongst those who do, there are probably more than a few scammers.
One key tell-sign is if they appear to be eager to come to your room/hotel/apartment. No regular girl will appear eager, possibly unless you look like Henry Cavill. Fortunately, with experience it gets easier to make a judgement, and I'd bang my head against the wall the rest of my life I'd knew I'd lost the chance to bang nursebabe twice a week due to being overly paranoid.
I decided to go to Emporium hotel and connected to David, thanks one of the members shared his number. Its around 6 pm on Tuesday. Due to some party the pool was occupied. I sat with David and looking all the girls far from using binoculars After a few minutes selected a girl from 1. 4 range name Nelly (not sure how to pronounce) Got into the room. I would say all 1. 4 range grils are pretty compare to Classic. EMP is mostly for mid to high level customers and Classic is for low and local to hangout without using the girls. Also, EMP is cleaner and neater and no harassing by the folks. You sit and relax and find a girl to go to the room. So the cost is 1. 4 for one range that includes 90 minutes in the room with a girl that you can do twice cum I guess, I did that. 1. 2 grils are bit old its kind of Okayis compared to 1. 4. Threesome they are charging extra 250 k for bigger room. And there is a mandate tips of 200 k to the girls and the drinks are expensive and don't even drink from the room.
I guess enough of the details to visit. Once you paid they give a boarding pass to let you out.
In the room, we got in and she brush and cleaned herself. After a few minutes naked and laydown interacted a lot with translations app. She is tall around 5. 6 and good structure and big very big boobs I love those and almost 40 minutes my hands were there and she was insisting to suck her boobs continuously. She liked to have a French kiss I was bit hesitate and just a kiss. After 25 minutes sucking and huddling, she gave entrance BJ and missionary and doggy finished my first round. Washed and laydown again for the second round. After a few minutes, I insisted to give a BJ with CIM. It took a few minutes hard to give a full strength and then fucked her mouth, she was asking me to slow down and stopped, she took charge of giving deepthroat to finish and ended on her mouth. Its a great session and gave her tips and left the place.
Overall its a great experience. Next time will spend more time in EMP rather than Classic.
I became extremely bored of Angeles City really quickly. So decided to pop over to Jakarta for the first time in 5 years. VOA and Immigration were a breeze at midday. I would recommend filling out the customs form prior to departure and sending a screen capture of the QR code to your phone.
Booked 1 night in Classic Hotel. A bit run down but comfortable enough.
Went outside to the nearby BNI bank and had a pleasant surprise. I could only withdraw up to 1,200,000 per transaction in 100 k or 50 k notes, but was not asked about fees or exchange rates. After I took out 1. 2 I checked my bank and it was spot on the general Mastercard exchange rate. I am using a Starling Bank card so I don't know if it will be the same for everyone.
Popped into classic about 5:30. Same as described. I was expecting to be fighting off the mamasans, quite the opposite. When I came through the door the group just inside seemed to step towards me and then just stop or scatter. Strangest thing. I took a seat just outside the girls' locker room. I must say that sofa had the most appealing ladies and you can watch the others come and go. One MMS did come and sit with me and asked if I knew the prices, she had a list of 4 numbers written on the back of the pad. I just said yes. I saw the 365 mark and the 500 k but failed to ask about the other 2 higher numbers. Every now and again a MMS would trot up to me with a young lady they were never the bottom barrel ones that others have mentioned all very lovely. No matter how many times I asked them to not bring me girls one MMS kept going. I stayed for a while with one large bintang and left, the bill was 120 k.
As I was on recon I went to the Kota Indah area to check out those bars. Popped in and had a drink in pretty much all of them. Nothing has changed there apart from Starmoon now having a horseshoe double stacked sofa in place of the behind glass fishbowl.
Have now moved down south a bit to a condo near Kalibata City. Can actually see a bit of blue in the sky here. Right next to the commuter rail so Classic, Travel and Kota Indah are just a 20 minute jump away.
Sorry no details on the action as did not partake last night. I will take a look at Travel today.
Oh man, I have done this so many times. Instead of asking receptionist to call in the room I tell the girl I am in the coffee shop and so she would step in. I would glance at her in the lobby itself and decide to take her to room or not. Another one I pulled out was when I was in pattaya last year, I told the online girl I was in a coffee shop which was opposite my hotel. She reached and tried calling me and when I saw her I almost didn't recognize her, so much so for the filters. I felt really bad for the girl for wasting her time but I prefer it that way than to have a horrible time in the room.
And guys never share your room no first screen them and then take them up. Cheers.
Another trick I would use is sit on the couch next to front desk and tell front desk to call my room despite me being right there. If I intervene, no issues. If I don't, front desk will just have to say, sorry he is not in the room. A hateful text involving my mother is much more convenient to deal with instead of dealing with a LB aka creature (love the name W. Now, to many of you, this may sounds dramatic or too much of an hassle but it does gets entertaining once you spot the scammer. You aren't pulling that stunt on a normal girl.
Unless I have met the girl before, I never tell them my room number and don't meet them in my hotel. Always in a mall or a restaurant. Safer and easier to ditch them without causing any scene.
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Went outside to the nearby BNI bank and had a pleasant surprise. I could only withdraw up to 1,200,000 per transaction in 100 k or 50 k notes, but was not asked about fees or exchange rates. After I took out 1. 2 I checked my bank and it was spot on the general Mastercard exchange rate. I am using a Starling Bank card so I don't know if it will be the same for everyone.
.........1) CIMB Niaga is 3 juta (100 k notes).
2) Maybank Indonesia is 1. 5 juta (50 k notes).
3) BNI is 2 juta (100 k notes).
4) Mandiri is 1. 25 juta (50 k notes).
5) BCA is 2. 5 juta (100 k notes).
There is an extra charges by bank, but I can not remember the amount. Each bank charged differ amount.
Other Credit Card might had differ withdrawal limits or depend on bank / ATM.
That's the exact reason why I tell them upfront, if you don't look like the picture, I am sending you back and I won't pay for your transportation so be honest with me. Usually by then the girl will either send a real picture or just block me 😁 which I'm fine either way. Out of thousandss of girls, it's not difficult to find the next one.
Speaking of pattaya, I have a good friend who used to be WG then turn her life around and runs clothing business in BK, Pattaya and KL. I was taking to her few nights back, apparently Pattaya scene is heavily infested with tricksters and lowballers from both sides. As per her, she thinks it has becoming a mechanical meat market.
Oh man, I have done this so many times. Instead of asking receptionist to call in the room I tell the girl I am in the coffee shop and so she would step in. I would glance at her in the lobby itself and decide to take her to room or not. Another one I pulled out was when I was in pattaya last year, I told the online girl I was in a coffee shop which was opposite my hotel. She reached and tried calling me and when I saw her I almost didn't recognize her, so much so for the filters. I felt really bad for the girl for wasting her time but I prefer it that way than to have a horrible time in the room.
And guys never share your room no first screen them and then take them up. Cheers.
Just a general Question, why don't you guys bring cash? Or even use western union transfer to yourself form your bank accounts in US or other countries. If you factor in the bank withdrawals fees, that western union transfer is much cheaper. Also there is Remitly whose rates aren't too bad either. Just a thought.
1) CIMB Niaga is 3 juta (100 k notes).
2) Maybank Indonesia is 1. 5 juta (50 k notes).
3) BNI is 2 juta (100 k notes).
4) Mandiri is 1. 25 juta (50 k notes).
5) BCA is 2. 5 juta (100 k notes).
There is an extra charges by bank, but I can not remember the amount. Each bank charged differ amount.
Other Credit Card might had differ withdrawal limits or depend on bank / ATM.
Nice FR and good positive experience. Glad to hear you had double fun. So, 200 k tip has become mandatory now. Looking at girls with binoculars part was definitely hilarious.
I decided to go to Emporium hotel and connected to David, thanks one of the members shared his number. It’s around 6 pm on Tuesday. Due to some party the pool was occupied. I sat with David and looking all the girls far from using binoculars After a few minutes selected a girl from 1. 4 range name Nelly (not sure how to pronounce) Got into the room. I would say all 1. 4 range grils are pretty compare to Classic. EMP is mostly for mid to high level customers and Classic is for low and local to hangout without using the girls. Also, EMP is cleaner and neater and no harassing by the folks. You sit and relax and find a girl to go to the room. So the cost is 1. 4 for one range that includes 90 minutes in the room with a girl that you can do twice cum I guess, I did that. 1. 2 grils are bit old its kind of Okayis compared to 1. 4. Threesome they are charging extra 250 k for bigger room. And there is a mandate tips of 200 k to the girls and the drinks are expensive and don't even drink from the room.
I guess enough of the details to visit. Once you paid they give a boarding pass to let you out.
In the room, we got in and she brush and cleaned herself. After a few minutes naked and laydown interacted a lot with translations app..
Just a general Question, why don't you guys bring cash? Or even use western union transfer to yourself form your bank accounts in US or other countries. If you factor in the bank withdrawals fees, that western union transfer is much cheaper. Also there is Remitly whose rates aren't too bad either. Just a thought.Carry cash for the whole trip is not really smart. Have an amount secured stash away in case of emergencies.
To use transfer to you is an option if you are near places where you can pick up the cash. For the procedure you need internet, time and is is not for free.
Using ATM's is easy, on the go wherever you are even for small amounts and the rates are similar to the fees from WU or others.
Travelling without credit cards is backward. You need them at airlines, hotels, rent-a-car. So, why not use it at an ATM?
Don't count pennies when you travel. Make it easy and safe and enjoy your time.
Just a general Question, why don't you guys bring cash? Or even use western union transfer to yourself form your bank accounts in US or other countries. If you factor in the bank withdrawals fees, that western union transfer is much cheaper. Also there is Remitly whose rates aren't too bad either. Just a thought.For me I have been travelling all over for years so bringing my own currency is difficult. I have a Starling Bank account that gives me no charges for any foreign transactions including ATM withdrawals. The only costs are with the local bank ATM fees.
Just a general Question, why don't you guys bring cash? .I think the main reason is safety. Would you have the amount that you plan to bring, on you, even back home?
Hi I'll be in Jakarta in September and was wondering if anyone can advise. I would like to try some quite taboo stuff, in addition to the more vanilla stuff. Classic ect. I was wondering what the best way of doing this would be, I have spoken to a couple of girls on tinder and they seem relatively happy to go along with the stuff I want to try. Has anyone ever had a "GF" who spends time with them and other girls, and could you take a "GF" to somewhere like classic, and have a threesome? Sorry if this sounds mad, but I checked the forum and can't find any information. Probably cause no one is as weird as me. It's my first time in Jakarta and relatively new to this although I have travelled to Latin America before. I'm also wondering if there's much of a BDSM scene in Jakarta and also, what's the best way to get Kamagra and poppers. If anyone could offer any advice it would be really appreciated.
I've been traveling with cash all these years and knock on wood, no issues so far. Just needs to be cautious and to make sure there is a safe in hotel room. I would rather bring cash than compromise my bank card at one of the rigged ATM machines. Damages would be just too high if that happens.
Other downside of it is, my bank only allows 4 international transactions per month and after that it changes $5/ per transactions plus local bank transactions fees! So far Jakarta, once I withdraw approximately 6/7 million my free transactions will be maxed. Not enough for a week long sexpedition in Jakarta if I want to visit places like Emporium, KC, MTR.
I think the main reason is safety. Would you have the amount that you plan to bring, on you, even back home?
Banana Boi
08-15-24, 18:02
On my last trip I got some fraudulent charges on one of my major CC's. First time this has ever happened in nearly 10 continuous years of travel. I can pinpoint who got hold of this CC number as it's a card I rarely use. The charges were under "Uber Eats" on my CC and I never used Uber or Uber Eats on this CC for my last 3 trips at least. I thought it was just a mistake at first but every 2nd day I got another "Uber Eats" charge each one more than the last. By the 3rd charge I called my CC who blocked any more charges from "Uber Eats", immediately issued me all my charges back, and sent me a replacement card within a few days.
I primarily use my Wise wallet to take out money and pay as a CC. I transfer money online to Wise prn. This frees up my CC from being exposed as often. Like Zippos I carry cash in different currencies around.
Call me paranoid but this stems from a trip I made to Las Vegas many years ago. Found out when I arrived that none of the 6+ CC and bank cards I had on me worked. Lucky I knew a dancer in Vegas who let me borrow money from her.
I've been traveling with cash all these years and knock on wood, no issues so far. Just needs to be cautious and to make sure there is a safe in hotel room. I would rather bring cash than compromise my bank card at one of the rigged ATM machines.
I don't know how long your trips are but bringing your whole budget in cash is wild. Bringing a little bit cash for emergency is ok, but for the hobby that we have a quick 2 week trip you should have at least $2000 on you. If you are paranoid about using your credit card (which you shouldn't) because you are protected by the bank.
Try using a debit card most of them are free (for the basic service) and load up what you plan to spend that day. Most of them also have a phone app and you can see the transaction immediately, you can also change the PIN numbers daily. Banks like Wise, Revolut, N26 to name few I don't know what you Americans have over there.
So yeah Debit Card is the way to go if you travel imo.
I've been traveling with cash all these years and knock on wood, no issues so far. Just needs to be cautious and to make sure there is a safe in hotel room. I would rather bring cash than compromise my bank card at one of the rigged ATM machines. Damages would be just too high if that happens.
Other downside of it is, my bank only allows 4 international transactions per month and after that it changes $5/ per transactions plus local bank transactions fees! So far Jakarta, once I withdraw approximately 6/7 million my free transactions will be maxed. Not enough for a week long sexpedition in Jakarta if I want to visit places like Emporium, KC, MTR.Note that if you bring cash you still have to get the cash from somewhere and that will usually be from some ATM machine where the risk of losing your credit card is not zero. Of course losing your credit card and having it compromised is not the same but it is a hassle too depending on your travel plans and where the replacement card is sent to.
I can see the point of bringing cash though. If I could withdraw 9 million I'd bring only emergency cash, but 3 million rupiah is peanuts. It's not so much a question of fees, it's having to do multiple cash withdrawals every day, with each withdrawal carrying its own risk of the card being swallowed. ATMs doling out puny amounts is definitely a serious downside in any mongering destination.
On all my travels; business or personal and even on my last Jakarta trip all expenses were prepaid except the chick prices which I paid in cash. I carry much more than enough as I kind of feel secure with having money in hand just in case. Kind of a mindset thing or where I come from where cash is king though things are changing fast. Hotel stay pre-paid, linked my credit card with grab and my Bank always used to send OTP to authorize the transaction when driver stopped the trip, Clubbing in BATs / CJs all expenses CCs, could have paid EMP bill too by CC but preferred to pay by cash. Did not want to show that transaction in my statement. Dollar mart the exchange shop is hardly 5 minutes where I stayed in, in fact there are two just next to each other so no problems in converting currency. Of course, keep my cash and passport in my room locker.
I've been traveling with cash all these years and knock on wood, no issues so far. Just needs to be cautious and to make sure there is a safe in hotel room. I would rather bring cash than compromise my bank card at one of the rigged ATM machines. Damages would be just too high if that happens.
Other downside of it is, my bank only allows 4 international transactions per month and after that it changes $5/ per transactions plus local bank transactions fees! So far Jakarta, once I withdraw approximately 6/7 million my free transactions will be maxed. Not enough for a week long sexpedition in Jakarta if I want to visit places like Emporium, KC, MTR.
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I can see the point of bringing cash though. If I could withdraw 9 million I'd bring only emergency cash, but 3 million rupiah is peanuts. It's not so much a question of fees, it's having to do multiple cash withdrawals every day, with each withdrawal carrying its own risk of the card being swallowed. ATMs doling out puny amounts is definitely a serious downside in any mongering destination.Daily 9 million is Very possible if you had a local trusted friend, (trusted friendX3), very important that had to mention 3 times. But be very careful of your monies, trust nobody.
My thief beat your thief to it BB.
Mine was very highly ambitious. He / she was ordering Apple products from apple site. Highest was 5 k lowest was 600. I'm guessing he was gunning for entire Apple lineup until fraud department caught it and they called me. Luckily I was reimbursed for every penny but they couldn't recover the amount from apple due to some steps they had to follow. It's the worst thing to happen specially when traveling overseas. And I know exactly where it was compromised. Even cops knew the source but couldn't find out who was exactly. Lesson learned.
Another issue with ATM I read is, depending on the time, you can be a target of organized mugging. They moment you step in, group will follow and get money out of your card forcefully. I've seen that happen in India and friend of mine was subjected to similar incident. Never heard that happening in Indonesia, Malaysia or Philippines but wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
I definitely wouldn't call it paranoid but be cautious, we may not find the one friend in a place to help us out in similar situation. That's why cash is the king as long as it's kept safely and securely.
On my last trip I got some fraudulent charges on one of my major CC's. First time this has ever happened in nearly 10 continuous years of travel. I can pinpoint who got hold of this CC number as it's a card I rarely use. The charges were under "Uber Eats" on my CC and I never used Uber or Uber Eats on this CC for my last 3 trips at least. I thought it was just a mistake at first but every 2nd day I got another "Uber Eats" charge each one more than the last. By the 3rd charge I called my CC who blocked any more charges from "Uber Eats", immediately issued me all my charges back, and sent me a replacement card within a few days.
I primarily use my Wise wallet to take out money and pay as a CC. I transfer money online to Wise prn. This frees up my CC from being exposed as often. Like Zippos I carry cash in different currencies around.
Call me paranoid but this stems from a trip I made to Las Vegas many years ago. Found out when I arrived that none of the 6+ CC and bank cards I had on me worked. Lucky I knew a dancer in Vegas who let me borrow money from her.
I get my cash straight from teller before leaving country. I rarely use ATM machine. I don't even remember when was the las time I used one.
And you are correct on ATM"s dolling out punny amounts, imagine you went to Emporium and had few drinks and banged one for 1. 4 m, now that one session with drinks will consume your entire withdrawal. For next round, you would have to run to ATM while girl sits there waiting or went with someone else 😁.
Note that if you bring cash you still have to get the cash from somewhere and that will usually be from some ATM machine where the risk of losing your credit card is not zero. Of course losing your credit card and having it compromised is not the same but it is a hassle too depending on your travel plans and where the replacement card is sent to.
I can see the point of bringing cash though. If I could withdraw 9 million I'd bring only emergency cash, but 3 million rupiah is peanuts. It's not so much a question of fees, it's having to do multiple cash withdrawals every day, with each withdrawal carrying its own risk of the card being swallowed. ATMs doling out puny amounts is definitely a serious downside in any mongering destination.
Several of my CC's, including Wise which is perhaps the best (unless you are one of the the lucky ones who in the USA seem to be able to get cards that will refund ATM fees), allow you to easily turn off the card via a phone app. So if you want to be really careful, you'll keep that card disabled most of the time, and only temporarily enable it via your phone a few seconds before you are going to pay for something, and then disable it again. A bit unpractical, but that is usually the trade-off for security.
Another tip is to scratch out the CVC code at the back of all your cards (those 3 extra digits online shops asks you to provide when you buy something online), after writing it down somewhere for yourself. This will make it quite a bit harder for someone to do online purchases (but only online purchases) with your CC, even if they have all your other details because they copied them when you paid for something at their counter. Those digits are needed for online buying, but not for in-store purchases.
Had I know I could pay at Emporivm and Classic with CC and no extra fees (at least that's what I was told at Emporivm), sans Wise's fees, I would not have bothered to exchange a bunch of Thai baht to Indonesian and carry it with me.
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Had I know I could pay at Emporivm and Classic with CC and no extra fees (at least that's what I was told at Emporivm), sans Wise's fees, I would not have bothered to exchange a bunch of Thai baht to Indonesian and carry it with me.Now wait a minute, this could be a game-changer. Can anyone confirm you can pay with CC at no surcharge at those venues? Hopefully you can use you credit card contactless and they don't grab your CC to stick it into the machine.
Sticking a piece of paper over the 3 additional digits at the back of the CC may be a better idea than scratching it altogether.
Paying Grab Taxi by credit card is also interesting. Paying Ueber in Brazil with CC was a breeze. I tried paying Bolt in Thailand with CC but it failed because the taxi scammers told me during the ride they couldn't accept credit card payment, so I had to pay cash and recoup the amount from Bolt. Can someone confirm paying Grab by credit card in Jakarta goes smoothly?
One last question: do you guys go places in Jakarta with your passport? Or is it better to keep it under lock and key and possible pay off the police if there's a road block?
Irish Mongrel
08-16-24, 11:00
Just a general Question, why don't you guys bring cash? Or even use western union transfer to yourself form your bank accounts in US or other countries. If you factor in the bank withdrawals fees, that western union transfer is much cheaper. Also there is Remitly whose rates aren't too bad either. Just a thought.I always travel with a $1000 dollars in fresh 100 $ bills and a bunch of smaller bills. Have traveled all over the world and always had cash on me for that just in case time. We travel in a world that is wired to a cashless future. The problem occurs when your card does not work. Earthquakes, major power outages, revolutions anything is possible in some of the countries I travel in. If I need to get somewhere quickly I'll have the cash that will solve that, compared to somebody scratching their head wondering why the ATM isn't working. Just have to be able to get ti my hotel room. Some of that money will get used to P4 P, but I just restock before my next trip.
Credit card is used for everything else under normal situations. If it gets hacked, so what, the bank sends me a new digital card that I can use immediately via google pay and refunds all the purchases. I use WISE for personal purchases and bank credit card for company expenses. Probably had cards hacked 5 times in 30+ years in Asia. Once in Hong Kong in 1991, twice in Australia (1 x skim at an ATM), and WISE card done twice from god knows where, but purchases where attempted in the US (I now have the freeze feature activated unless making a purchase).
Now wait a minute, this could be a game-changer. Can anyone confirm you can pay with CC at no surcharge at those venues?
Can someone confirm paying Grab by credit card in Jakarta goes smoothly?
One last question: do you guys go places in Jakarta with your passport? Or is it better to keep it under lock and key and possible pay off the police if there's a road block?Yes, Classic, Travel and all the higher end places accept card. You can even add girls' tips at the better places.
Yes, I've added Wise to my default payment on Grab and Gojek without issue.
If you hand over your passport to anyone stopping you without cause ie fishing for bribes, what do you think your chances are of getting it back without payment? Never, ever, hand over your passport and there is no need to travel with it for regular daily activities, certainly not half tanked, with three hookers in the taxi, at 4 am.
Just a general comment that I was amazed at how little cash I went through on my last trip. Sure there are some cash only businesses & purchases but the level of credit card penetration is much broader now. I have no problems paying the majority of my expenses online (travel, hotels etc) or card (90% of daily expenses) and just withdraw cash as required. Bringing over several thousand, easily lost or stolen, dollars makes no sense to me.
Enjoy. G.
NoGermaphobe
08-16-24, 19:30
There is definitely a surcharge at all the main places that take CC like Travel / Classic / KI. I can't speak to Emporium. It is usually small. But it is there and most times they will ask you or inform you before you pay with CC. At KI it is 20 K I believe. At Travel, they add a charge called "biaya. " I forget the exact amount though. I think it's like 5 K per voucher?
Grab and GoJek with CC is a breeze and my preferred method now. Sometimes food delivery though is cash on arrival only. I think it depends on the place.
It is actually quite hilarious to see a whole bunch of $1.00 or less transactions for when I use Grab Bike or GoJek Bike for short motorcycle hop. The drivers don't seem to care and there is no surcharge even though the transactions are small. Just hop off the bike and say thanks.
I am still in the habit of carrying my passport in Jakarta. In the early to mid 2000's, checkpoints were quite frequent and I got dinged a few times for "not carrying your passport" and had to pay a couple of reds for "coffee. " But honestly, I haven't seen one or been stopped in a checkpoint now in at least 10-15 years. (Touch wood.) But old habits die hard.
Now wait a minute, this could be a game-changer. Can anyone confirm you can pay with CC at no surcharge at those venues? Hopefully you can use you credit card contactless and they don't grab your CC to stick it into the machine.
Sticking a piece of paper over the 3 additional digits at the back of the CC may be a better idea than scratching it altogether.
Paying Grab Taxi by credit card is also interesting. Paying Ueber in Brazil with CC was a breeze. I tried paying Bolt in Thailand with CC but it failed because the taxi scammers told me during the ride they couldn't accept credit card payment, so I had to pay cash and recoup the amount from Bolt. Can someone confirm paying Grab by credit card in Jakarta goes smoothly?
One last question: do you guys go places in Jakarta with your passport? Or is it better to keep it under lock and key and possible pay off the police if there's a road block?
Maybank also is 3 juta (100 k notes) without bank charge.
1) CIMB Niaga is 3 juta (100 k notes).
2) Maybank Indonesia is 1. 5 juta (50 k notes).
3) BNI is 2 juta (100 k notes).
4) Mandiri is 1. 25 juta (50 k notes).
5) BCA is 2. 5 juta (100 k notes).
There is an extra charges by bank, but I can not remember the amount. Each bank charged differ amount.
Other Credit Card might had differ withdrawal limits or depend on bank / ATM.
Allow me to clarify and add that except my punting expenses all my payments were through cards. The clarification is that all clubbing at BATS, CJs, my daily needs a few from Alfamart were through my debit card, bought whiskey from Jakarta Airport too as well on Debit card. The idea of buying liquor was that I could save a bit of money if the Chick wishes to drink in Club because the cost of 2 drinks in CJs? BATs is roughly equal to the cost of full bottle. The addition is that Grab; later on downloaded Bluebird as well and attached my credit card with it and with both taxi operators it worked like a breeze. Although, I used Grab for 90% of my trip and Bluebird in case of Grab not responding or ride cancelled. No hassle as I do not know local language and the drivers cannot converse in English. Also, I have shared before earlier; my colleague fucked in EMP and paid through his company CC and took a food bill. No surcharge. EMP you can pay the tip of the girl as part of the bill by card. I did not visit any other places for punting hence no comments. Bolt too my CC is linked and worked well during my last trip to Thailand. Kota Indah Sarivayu I went but did not fuck and had my drinks only and the option of paying 400 K for chick by card was available.
I did not carry my passport anywhere except for the currency exchange which they told me next time even a photo copy would work if I had it with me. The currency exchange shop was only a max 10 minute leisurely walk from the hotel.
Cannot get Jakarta out of my head.
Regards.
Now wait a minute, this could be a game-changer. Can anyone confirm you can pay with CC at no surcharge at those venues? Hopefully you can use you credit card contactless and they don't grab your CC to stick it into the machine.
Sticking a piece of paper over the 3 additional digits at the back of the CC may be a better idea than scratching it altogether.
Paying Grab Taxi by credit card is also interesting. Paying Ueber in Brazil with CC was a breeze. I tried paying Bolt in Thailand with CC but it failed because the taxi scammers told me during the ride they couldn't accept credit card payment, so I had to pay cash and recoup the amount from Bolt. Can someone confirm paying Grab by credit card in Jakarta goes smoothly?
One last question: do you guys go places in Jakarta with your passport? Or is it better to keep it under lock and key and possible pay off the police if there's a road block?
RodneyRude
08-17-24, 04:43
Hi Guys.
I just applied for the online Evisa, filled out all the forms and paid the 1. 5 juta only to have my application dissapear, googled up on it and apprently its quite common, be careful yeah, on that note how easy is it to extend a 30 day VOA in Jakarta? Thanks.
There is definitely a surcharge at all the main places that take CC like Travel / Classic / KI. I can't speak to Emporium. It is usually small. But it is there and most times they will ask you or inform you before you pay with CC. At KI it is 20 K I believe. At Travel, they add a charge called "biaya. " I forget the exact amount though. I think it's like 5 K per voucher?
Grab and GoJek with CC is a breeze and my preferred method now. Sometimes food delivery though is cash on arrival only. I think it depends on the place.
It is actually quite hilarious to see a whole bunch of $1.00 or less transactions for when I use Grab Bike or GoJek Bike for short motorcycle hop. The drivers don't seem to care and there is no surcharge even though the transactions are small. Just hop off the bike and say thanks.
I am still in the habit of carrying my passport in Jakarta. In the early to mid 2000's, checkpoints were quite frequent and I got dinged a few times for "not carrying your passport" and had to pay a couple of reds for "coffee. " But honestly, I haven't seen one or been stopped in a checkpoint now in at least 10-15 years. (Touch wood.) But old habits die hard.Indeed in the first decade of the century you would get stopped by police late at night one day out of three in the area Ayam Wuruk / Lokasari / Stadium. On one night I swear the Prestasi cab taking me back did a turn on purpose so that we would get stopped by police. The cabbie most probably got a cut of the baksheesh.
Expat American
08-17-24, 12:46
Several of my CC's, including Wise which is perhaps the best (unless you are one of the the lucky ones who in the USA seem to be able to get cards that will refund ATM fees), allow you to easily turn off the card via a phone app. So if you want to be really careful, you'll keep that card disabled most of the time, and only temporarily enable it via your phone a few seconds before you are going to pay for something, and then disable it again. A bit unpractical, but that is usually the trade-off for security.
Another tip is to scratch out the CVC code at the back of all your cards (those 3 extra digits online shops asks you to provide when you buy something online), after writing it down somewhere for yourself. This will make it quite a bit harder for someone to do online purchases (but only online purchases) with your CC, even if they have all your other details because they copied them when you paid for something at their counter. Those digits are needed for online buying, but not for in-store purchases.
Had I know I could pay at Emporivm and Classic with CC and no extra fees (at least that's what I was told at Emporivm), sans Wise's fees, I would not have bothered to exchange a bunch of Thai baht to Indonesian and carry it with me.Classic Spa charges a 3% surcharge for CC. But my bill is usually less than $100 so the extra couple of bucks for the convenience and reduced risk from carrying a large amount of cash is well worth it to me. I don't remember such a charge at Emporium. Grab works totally fine on my Singapore cards. Don't know about US cards. For cash I draw about 1 M per day for tips and misc and never really run out. Usually come back with a few hundred K for the next trip.
Here is another quick tip about Cash.
When getting USD100 bills, make sure to get 2009 or 2013 series. I know it doesn't make sense in perspective of what year bills were printed but I came across some money exchange specifically in Bali, Jak, KL, BK that they tend to offer a significant lower amount for any bills that's older than 2009 series.
I always travel with a $1000 dollars in fresh 100 $ bills and a bunch of smaller bills. Have traveled all over the world and always had cash on me for that just in case time. We travel in a world that is wired to a cashless future. The problem occurs when your card does not work. Earthquakes, major power outages, revolutions anything is possible in some of the countries I travel in. If I need to get somewhere quickly I'll have the cash that will solve that, compared to somebody scratching their head wondering why the ATM isn't working. Just have to be able to get ti my hotel room. Some of that money will get used to P4 P, but I just restock before my next trip.
Credit card is used for everything else under normal situations. If it gets hacked, so what, the bank sends me a new digital card that I can use immediately via google pay and refunds all the purchases. I use WISE for personal purchases and bank credit card for company expenses. Probably had cards hacked 5 times in 30+ years in Asia. Once in Hong Kong in 1991, twice in Australia (1 x skim at an ATM), and WISE card done twice from god knows where, but purchases where attempted in the US (I now have the freeze feature activated unless making a purchase).
Only time I would actually show my passport to anyone is at Airport and that to for Check-in and Immigration and Customs. Besides that, I keep a pick of my passport on my phone and that to strictly for money exchange in case they want to see it.
I was stopped at a roadblock many times while traveling late night in Havana, São Paulo, Cancun, Bali, Jakarta, Bangkok, Delhi and Kathmandu. Each time they asked me for my passport, my simple answer is "it's in my hotel room, want to come with me to verify! They kinda figured, there is no point shaking this tree and just let me go.
Yes, Classic, Travel and all the higher end places accept card. You can even add girls' tips at the better places.
Yes, I've added Wise to my default payment on Grab and Gojek without issue.
If you hand over your passport to anyone stopping you without cause ie fishing for bribes, what do you think your chances are of getting it back without payment? Never, ever, hand over your passport and there is no need to travel with it for regular daily activities, certainly not half tanked, with three hookers in the taxi, at 4 am.
Just a general comment that I was amazed at how little cash I went through on my last trip. Sure there are some cash only businesses & purchases but the level of credit card penetration is much broader now. I have no problems paying the majority of my expenses online (travel, hotels etc) or card (90% of daily expenses) and just withdraw cash as required. Bringing over several thousand, easily lost or stolen, dollars makes no sense to me.
Enjoy. G.
GhengisDong
08-17-24, 22:42
Trying to refresh my memory to prepare for an upcoming trip.
On my last trip I decided to check out Delta Spa. There are a chain of these and I don't remember which location it was.
I think I checked in at the counter and maybe they gave me some wristband or other way to identify me. I'm not sure if I chose the options (such as massage "plus plus") at this point or if that is negotiated with the girl. I think it's normally included in the price?
I entered a lounge area with a bar where you can get a drink. Then, I talked to the mamasan type lady who correctly guessed that I wanted someone "young" and "slim". She produced a girl who was in fact very cute, who led me up to the room.
The room had a bed, a tub with shower, and a urinal. While I was naked, the girl remained clothed and gave me a massage for an hour. Then, she asked if I wanted to extend the time. I guess anything beyond just a standard massage will take extra time.
She left the room for about 15-20 minutes and came back. Then, if I remember correctly, took off her clothes and then took a shower? She was shy about her "small boobs". The festivities amounted to a HJ from a very cute naked girl.
I think the price for a normal hour long massage was something like 500 k, but my bill came to over 1 m, I guess because of extending the time. Not sure why she was gone 15-20 minutes or if this is part of some delay tactic to run up the clock further. I don't know if I paid any tips directly to the girl. Maybe it's expensive by Jakarta standards but it's way cheaper than I could get at home.
Next time I'd like to see if the girl will get naked for the massage part as well, and if that costs extra.
Anybody have any advice with this place?
When getting USD100 bills, make sure to get 2009 or 2013 series. I know it doesn't make sense in perspective of what year bills were printed but I came across some money exchange specifically in Bali, Jak, KL, BK that they tend to offer a significant lower amount for any bills that's older than 2009 series.In general, money changers want the most recent issued bills, clean, untorn, unwrinkled. Bills prior to 2009 lack some of the security features and are more prone to being counterfeited. They prefer clean, untorn, unwrinkled bills as when giving them out, they are less likely to be rejected by the customer. Brand new bills have a very distinct look and feel; overly worn and dirty bills can also be harder to notice if counterfeit.
Getting a lower exchange rate just reflects the higher cost of business in taking in those less than ideal bills. On the flip side, when you accept local currency for your bills, you should insist on clean, new bills for the same reasons.
Since my last trip to Jakarta was brief just three days and had a great time—I've decided to spend five days in October and another five days in November during my stopover from USA to Sri Lanka. I'm curious if anyone has recommendations for places worth visiting beyond Jakarta for girls.
Since my last trip to Jakarta was brief just three days and had a great timeI've decided to spend five days in October and another five days in November during my stopover from USA to Sri Lanka. I'm curious if anyone has recommendations for places worth visiting beyond Jakarta for girls.Maybe just stick with Jakarta I would say. It's such an enormous place in itself that for girls it's the best place if you only have 5 days x2.
Indeed in the first decade of the century you would get stopped by police late at night one day out of three in the area Ayam Wuruk / Lokasari / Stadium. On one night I swear the Prestasi cab taking me back did a turn on purpose so that we would get stopped by police. The cabbie most probably got a cut of the baksheesh.I can't remember getting stopped, going to or from Jalan Hayam Wuruk or the Lokasari Plaza area. But then we roll differently. I would have been returning alone before 10:30 PM, with no more than a beer buzz. You on the other hand were likely traveling lit, with three or four hotties. Your adventures, especially at Stadium were among the most epic in the annals of ISG. The police probably smelled you coming a couple of kilometers away.
Classic Spa charges a 3% surcharge for CC. But my bill is usually less than $100 so the extra couple of bucks for the convenience and reduced risk from carrying a large amount of cash is well worth it to me. I don't remember such a charge at Emporium. Grab works totally fine on my Singapore cards. Don't know about US cards. For cash I draw about 1 M per day for tips and misc and never really run out. Usually come back with a few hundred K for the next trip.At 3% surcharge, considering Visa and Master give a better exchange rate on your CC than you get when changing cash, the nett loss reduces to less than 3%.
I suppose with Grab you enter your CC once and for all and it charges the CC on autopilot from then on. 2FA verification after each ride would be too much of a hassle.
Grab, Goiek is set once and changes occur on each ride / food order. My CC has this feature of approving a merchant as Trusted merchant and it will continue thereafter to a set limit. Anything over that limit, it would ask me for approval.
When it comes to using of physical CC for any purchase, often others don't pay attention is to what currency to select! Most cases it will ask for local currency being option one which in this case IDR, which is set by merchants bank at a very high exchange rate, second option is USD which is also set by merchants bank at a higher exchange rate and third option is home currency where CC is from. It's always best to choose home currency that way home bank does the conversion based on mid-day exchange rate. That way you won't loose much in the process.
Another great option is, no international transaction fees CC, otherwise that puts a huge dent on the total amount. If grab ride is to be $1 then it will be $1 for CC with no international transaction fees, otherwise it could be $1. 05 to $1. 15.
Many won't care about a small amount but it will make a big difference when paying hotel bills, airfare.
At 3% surcharge, considering Visa and Master give a better exchange rate on your CC than you get when changing cash, the nett loss reduces to less than 3%.
I suppose with Grab you enter your CC once and for all and it charges the CC on autopilot from then on. 2FA verification after each ride would be too much of a hassle.
Incrociatore
08-19-24, 12:16
Starling does not charge you any fee, no matter where you are, if the card is supported, you just pay the Mastercard conversion rate, but you have to pay a local fee, if the bank charges that. In Indonesia the cheaper is BCA, at least this is what I have found out:
Bank Central Asia (BCA)
BCA is one of the largest banks in Indonesia, and their ATMs are widespread. They typically charge a fee of around 30,000 IDR (approximately £1. 50) per withdrawal with a foreign card, which is on the lower end of the spectrum.
Bank Mandiri
Bank Mandiri also has a large network of ATMs, and the fee is usually around 30,000 to 50,000 IDR (approximately £1. 50 to £2. 50). Mandiri ATMs are reliable and widely available.
CIMB Niaga
CIMB Niaga often charges a fee similar to other major banks, around 30,000 to 50,000 IDR. However, some users have reported slightly lower fees at CIMB Niaga ATMs.
1) CIMB Niaga is 3 juta (100 k notes).
2) Maybank Indonesia is 1. 5 juta (50 k notes).
3) BNI is 2 juta (100 k notes).
4) Mandiri is 1. 25 juta (50 k notes).
5) BCA is 2. 5 juta (100 k notes)..
When it comes to using of physical CC for any purchase, often others don't pay attention is to what currency to select! Most cases it will ask for local currency being option one which in this case IDR, which is set by merchants bank at a very high exchange rate, second option is USD which is also set by merchants bank at a higher exchange rate and third option is home currency where CC is from. It's always best to choose home currency that way home bank does the conversion based on mid-day exchange rate. That way you won't loose much in the process.
Hey Zippo, sorry, but the opposite is true. If you chose the local currency, wherever you are (e.g., IDR in Indonesia), exchange rate will be set by card provider (i.e., visa or mastercard). The mechant in Indonesia will have nothing to do with that, so the exchange you get is the best possible. After that, your own bank usually tacks on an invisible currency conversion fee (around 2 percent is typical).
If you select anything other than the local currency, the merchant in Indonesia (or rather, whoever handles the transaction for them) will themselves decide the exchange rate to use for conversion to USD or your local home currency, and your home bank will not be involved. This will always be a rate way worse rate than the visa / mastercard rate, and usually much worse than the 2% currency conversion fee your own bank tacks on.
There are some cards that do not impose this conversion fee I've read, but those are not available to me unfortunately. I instead use Wise, which has a lower fee than most.
NoGermaphobe
08-20-24, 06:02
This is the correct answer. Always select the local currency and reject DCC (Dynamic Currency Conversion) to your home currency. Whether using a credit card or an ATM. Reject the automatic conversion to your home currency. Don't take my word for it either.
https://www.us.hsbc.com/international-banking/should-you-pay-in-local-currency-outside-the-us/
https://www.americanexpress.com/en-us/credit-cards/credit-intel/should-you-pay-in-local-or-home-currency-when-traveling/
https://www.cnn.com/travel/foreign-travel-pay-local-or-home-currency/index.html
Hey Zippo, sorry, but the opposite is true. If you chose the local currency, wherever you are (e.g., IDR in Indonesia), exchange rate will be set by card provider (i.e., visa or mastercard). The mechant in Indonesia will have nothing to do with that, so the exchange you get is the best possible. After that, your own bank usually tacks on an invisible currency conversion fee (around 2 percent is typical).
If you select anything other than the local currency, the merchant in Indonesia (or rather, whoever handles the transaction for them) will themselves decide the exchange rate to use for conversion to USD or your local home currency, and your home bank will not be involved. This will always be a rate way worse rate than the visa / mastercard rate, and usually much worse than the 2% currency conversion fee your own bank tacks on.
There are some cards that do not impose this conversion fee I've read, but those are not available to me unfortunately. I instead use Wise, which has a lower fee than most.
Let's say you pay Classic with CC, how do you go about avoiding the "currency conversion"? If you stick your CC into the machine (and enter your PIN) you have control over what happens and can deny the currency conversion. On the other hand, sticking your CC into the machine increases the risk of cloning etc. If you pay contactless, you may have no control over the currency conversion, indeed you may systematically get screwed by the house like what seems to happen in Brazil clubs (see Sao Paulo thread). If someone knows the Indonesian idiom for "currency conversion" I'd be interested.
Meanwhile the following school translation can be useful:
"Ku tidak mau konversi mata uang, ku ingin bayar dalam rupiah" ("I don't want a currency conversion, I want to pay in rupiah").
Sweet Jesus mother of God!
Your are telling me I've been doing this wrong all along! No wonder why my departments finance team were asking for clarification on actual receipts. Time to change my cabbage head financial advisor.
Thanks much Werqweq and NoGermaphobe. I will stick to local currency moving forward. I'm going to send those links to my Branch Manager and ask her to advise that dumb Financial Advisor.
Hey Zippo, sorry, but the opposite is true. If you chose the local currency, wherever you are (e.g., IDR in Indonesia), exchange rate will be set by card provider (i.e., visa or mastercard). The mechant in Indonesia will have nothing to do with that, so the exchange you get is the best possible. After that, your own bank usually tacks on an invisible currency conversion fee (around 2 percent is typical).
If you select anything other than the local currency, the merchant in Indonesia (or rather, whoever handles the transaction for them) will themselves decide the exchange rate to use for conversion to USD or your local home currency, and your home bank will not be involved. This will always be a rate way worse rate than the visa / mastercard rate, and usually much worse than the 2% currency conversion fee your own bank tacks on.
There are some cards that do not impose this conversion fee I've read, but those are not available to me unfortunately. I instead use Wise, which has a lower fee than most.
I guess we have the possibility of getting screwed regardless what menthol we employ. I had my CC compromised while using Tap / Contactless paying at a Chinese restaurant. As per Apple, Apple Pay is the most secure and it's paid using a different code. I guess whoever had my info from Tap, must've been very good at it. I ended up buying those NFC blocking sleeve for my cards.
And thanks XXL for the Bahsha translation. It will come in handy when I use it at duty free next month.
Speaking of duty free, anyone knows if Jakarta Airport Terminal 2 F (Cebu pacific and other budget airlines fly from) has duty free shops? Need to get some Tulamore Dew (if they have it) before my flight to Manila.
Let's say you pay Classic with CC, how do you go about avoiding the "currency conversion"? If you stick your CC into the machine (and enter your PIN) you have control over what happens and can deny the currency conversion. On the other hand, sticking your CC into the machine increases the risk of cloning etc. If you pay contactless, you may have no control over the currency conversion, indeed you may systematically get screwed by the house like what seems to happen in Brazil clubs (see Sao Paulo thread). If someone knows the Indonesian idiom for "currency conversion" I'd be interested..
FriendlyPlanet
08-20-24, 17:21
Let's say you pay Classic with CC, how do you go about avoiding the "currency conversion"? If you stick your CC into the machine (and enter your PIN) you have control over what happens and can deny the currency conversion. On the other hand, sticking your CC into the machine increases the risk of cloning etc. If you pay contactless, you may have no control over the currency conversion, indeed you may systematically get screwed by the houseRegardless of chip, swipe or pay wave (contactless) I always what will be charged to my card before tapping / inserting / swiping. And yes, always pay in local currency (and travel with a credit card that does not charge foreign transaction fees).
Yes mate, Jakarta Terminal 2 F has a duty free shop; I bought my whiskey bottle from there as I landed by VietJet Air. The shop is just close by opposite to conveyer belts before you exit.
Regards.
I guess we have the possibility of getting screwed regardless what menthol we employ. I had my CC compromised while using Tap / Contactless paying at a Chinese restaurant. As per Apple, Apple Pay is the most secure and it's paid using a different code. I guess whoever had my info from Tap, must've been very good at it. I ended up buying those NFC blocking sleeve for my cards.
And thanks XXL for the Bahsha translation. It will come in handy when I use it at duty free next month.
Speaking of duty free, anyone knows if Jakarta Airport Terminal 2 F (Cebu pacific and other budget airlines fly from) has duty free shops? Need to get some Tulamore Dew (if they have it) before my flight to Manila.
Rodney. Sorry to hears about yours experince with the elec visa.
Your Visa might still be there, the website is not intusitive. So sometimes you needs to exit, reload, or click on the email that was sent to you. Its a pain, but it will be there. You just need to make payment. And for everyone else, make sure you screenshot everythings, becaause yes there is not guaratee you will find the PDF again or can downlad. Just be safe.
Also, some of you will have issues taking photo of your passport due to glare. It so annoyings.
EXTENSION is quite easy. Everying is done online. I suggest you do 7 days in advance of expiry to be safes. But same issue as above. You will think it did nothing, but then you will have to go back to website (reload, exit and relogin, something!) and you will find it has been apporoved. Again, screenshot everything just to be safe.
The nice thing about eVisa is you can NOW use the Electronic gates. Just scan your passport. We are amazings. No need to deal with mean immigration people who sometimes gives hard time.
Goood luck.
Hi Guys.
I just applied for the online Evisa, filled out all the forms and paid the 1. 5 juta only to have my application dissapear, googled up on it and apprently its quite common, be careful yeah, on that note how easy is it to extend a 30 day VOA in Jakarta? Thanks.
Gents,
Can anyone recommend the higher class happy massage place near SCBD area in Central Jakarta? I have some times to kill between meeting and late dinner and very interested for relax and fun.
I have been to Fortune Spa on Sudirman. Nicer facilities, but expensive (starts at 1. 4 M, ok attractive women) and always government cars park outside. I have been to the'Heaven near Dharam area, but that place is too run down. Malio and classics to further for me.
Attila The Hun
08-21-24, 06:17
Haha I wonder which one. I was also kinda play flirting with one Mama named Jeny she gave me her WhatsApp. She told me yeah you like slim, petite girls I said yes like you (she is also petite with glasses) I told her jokingly come to my room, then she replied what hotel and what time you want me. I didn't reply back because I was joking but I think the possibility was there if I wantend to.
Some Mamas are a real pain in the ass, but I have bonded with a few in classic and when they see me they know what I like and call their best girl to meet me.Dude, that's the same one. Hahaha. Her (ex?-) Husband even wrote me. It's messed up! Hahahah.
Did you take the mamasan from classic terminal (2 floor) or classic spa in basement. Mamasan in basement spa are young & super hot, to the extent I have told one that I wish to bang her at my pad couple of times. Both times she said no but was willing to share her no. Do you guys think fucking her was a real possibility, I wasn't willing to spend time on her on the trip but hell yeah she was super hot and way better than the girls sitting in the fishbowl.
No. The one from 2nd floor.
Excellent report. I plan to be there soon. I'm excited to check out Classic (terminal). Everyday for a month straight? Who are some of the girls there that you would recommend?
376k for a pop? Ofc you go every day. Best price-performance ratio in the world!!!
I don't remember the names, but if you give it some time walking around you find them quickly!
I have RTFF-ed the last 15-20 pages.
I understand some Classic girl are not allowed to leave Classic. But if I find one that may leave, may she leave to meet me right after our session?Idk, I never met any of the girls outside of classic. They surely want 3 x the price (that's at least how much they wanted in kotah inda) and it's just not worth it if a short moto ride is only 30 k.
Will be in town for about a week if anybody is down to meet up.
Idk, I never met any of the girls outside of classic. They surely want 3 x the price (that's at least how much they wanted in kotah inda) and it's just not worth it if a short moto ride is only 30 k.It will depend on the chick and their situation.
Many of them are living in a group and are watched over.
So leaving to meet up with anybody off hours is GENERALLY not possible.
With that being said, I did have a chick meet up with me while in that scenario.
She told her "guardian" she was going to get cigarettes but came to my hotel for a quickie.
The chick was dressed in her PJs. LOL.
Expat American
08-21-24, 09:42
It will depend on the chick and their situation.
Many of them are living in a group and are watched over.
So leaving to meet up with anybody off hours is GENERALLY not possible.
With that being said, I did have a chick meet up with me while in that scenario.
She told her "guardian" she was going to get cigarettes but came to my hotel for a quickie.
The chick was dressed in her PJs. LOL.Depends on the girl. I have had nice relaxed sessions in my room with Classic girls on their day off. Paid the same as I would in Classic but no tip. So cheaper for me in the end and more relaxed. Of course this is with girls who know me and I have repeated in Classic first.
WildInstincts
08-21-24, 11:01
Hi Guys.
I just applied for the online Evisa, filled out all the forms and paid the 1. 5 juta only to have my application dissapear, googled up on it and apprently its quite common, be careful yeah, on that note how easy is it to extend a 30 day VOA in Jakarta? Thanks.Not sure which URL you used. Below is the official immigration site and they charge IDR 519,000. The eVisa was instantaneous at least in my case. When the payment transaction completed I got an email with the eVisa pdf file.
https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/
Not sure which URL you used. Below is the official immigration site and they charge IDR 519,000. The eVisa was instantaneous at least in my case. When the payment transaction completed I got an email with the eVisa pdf file.
https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/Which visa option did you choose? I don't see an option for tourist / vacation visa??
376k for a pop? Ofc you go every day. Best price-performance ratio in the world!!!
I don't remember the names, but if you give it some time walking around you find them quickly!
Fuck yes!! I'm currently in Thailand and Indonesia (Jakarta) is going to be the next stop on my Southeast Asia itinerary. Looking forward to sampling the goods on offer at Classic Terminal. I understand the mamasan named Cha Cha has the best girls.
-Gabacho.
Idk, I never met any of the girls outside of classic. They surely want 3 x the price (that's at least how much they wanted in kotah inda) and it's just not worth it if a short moto ride is only 30 k.Jakarta is not the venue to meet girls "outside working hours" in order to avoid "barfines". This is not Thailand. Girls in clubs are indentured labourers. If she comes to your hotel a mamasan will accompany her to collect the money. And when the paid time is over the phone will ring.
If you want free agents you can get them only at places like Bats.
Does anyone have any recent updates on the bars in Blok M, particularly on Jalan Melawai and Jalan Falatehan? Is it worth staying in this area for a change? Most of the nightlife seems to be concentrated on the North side, including Kota Indah, Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta, Kelapa Gading. My favorites are New Royal, Starmoon, Kings Cross, Hotel Classic in these areas.
Fuck yes!! I'm currently in Thailand and Indonesia (Jakarta) is going to be the next stop on my Southeast Asia itinerary. Looking forward to sampling the goods on offer at Classic Terminal. I understand the mamasan named Cha Cha has the best girls.
-Gabacho.Cha cha is a pushy mamasan she sulks if you choose another girl from another mamasan. She deliberately crashes into you when walking past to let you know she's not happy. I just laugh it off to defuse it. But she always gets in your face if you're not picking one of her girls. I have to keep telling her to slow down I need to recharge my dick. Hahaha.
The girls on the sofa on the right hand side of the door before exiting downstairs they look stuck up they don't want to go with me a white guy 35 average looking. Full sofa everyone one of them knocked me back. Said to mamasan she didn't seem bothered just shrugged her shoulders. Not sure what that's all about. Other sofas seemed more willing.
Now Cha Cha becomes famous here.
Not necessarily she has the best girls but she does have decent stock. Best girl is the one that you find and choose and how you mould her to be the best for that hour. Definitely Cha Cha is there for as long as the pillar stands and would pull some tricks on you but main goal is to not to let her dictate the game rather you tell her how it's going to be. Remember, you are the one with money. I once punished her by not taking any girls just because she was pushing me to take skeletons from her. Many guys will fancy that but I need some meat on my bones paired with big boobs.
If you want her to orship you, give her the change after paying for the girls, she might offer to give you a lap dance for that. All jokes aside, go early, grab a cold one and take your time. You can ask Cha Cha to follow you along if you want a particular girl. She won't hesitate to go on a witch fight with other Mami. Most importantly, have fun.
Fuck yes!! I'm currently in Thailand and Indonesia (Jakarta) is going to be the next stop on my Southeast Asia itinerary. Looking forward to sampling the goods on offer at Classic Terminal. I understand the mamasan named Cha Cha has the best girls.
-Gabacho.
LoveItHere69
08-22-24, 05:18
The girls on the sofa on the right hand side of the door before exiting downstairs they look stuck up they don't want to go with me a white guy 35 average looking. Full sofa everyone one of them knocked me back. Said to mamasan she didn't seem bothered just shrugged her shoulders. Not sure what that's all about. Other sofas seemed more willing.I think I (50's stall cracker) have taken 3 girls from that side (left side coming in / right side going out) towards the pool tables. I do not understand why the mamas try to give those girls when the girls say no. I have been refused 5 times. I go on that side to look but that is about all.
Average Geek
08-22-24, 06:30
Hello fellow mongers!
Will be spending a few days in Jakarta & Yogyakarta starting from tomorrow, and have been eagerly RTFF these past few days. I did have a couple of questions:
1. From what I've read it seems like Sundays are not a good day to be hitting a lot of the places recommended here. Unfortunately Sunday seems like the best day for me in terms of schedule, although I might be able to get away on Saturday. Any recommendations for places / timings if I do have to go on Sunday, so I can make best of the situation?
2. I haven't seen a lot of reports on Yogyakarta in the "Other Areas" thread. Any suggestions for places there or links to FR's?
Expat American
08-22-24, 06:51
Now Cha Cha becomes famous here.
Not necessarily she has the best girls but she does have decent stock. Best girl is the one that you find and choose and how you mould her to be the best for that hour. Definitely Cha Cha is there for as long as the pillar stands and would pull some tricks on you but main goal is to not to let her dictate the game rather you tell her how it's going to be. Remember, you are the one with money. I once punished her by not taking any girls just because she was pushing me to take skeletons from her. Many guys will fancy that but I need some meat on my bones paired with big boobs.
If you want her to orship you, give her the change after paying for the girls, she might offer to give you a lap dance for that. All jokes aside, go early, grab a cold one and take your time. You can ask Cha Cha to follow you along if you want a particular girl. She won't hesitate to go on a witch fight with other Mami. Most importantly, have fun.Some of you guys are being ridiculous. A while back everyone was chasing some particular girl and now everyone will go to classic chasing a particular mama san. Guys, there are dozens of bars, each bar has dozens of mama sans and each mama san may have dozens of girls. All of which change on a daily basis. Just go there and choose and enjoy. And one persons experience with a girl or mama or bar can be totally different than someone else. Its like sports. If every play and outcome is predictable what's the point in playing? The fun is in the discovery. While chasing another mongers experience you are missing your own amazing ones.
Delbo, totally man. Those girls in the extreme corner don't care a fuck and are least bothered / interested in customers. Some of them seem to be good, all said, I have never seen them going down with customers and don't know which mamas look after them. Has anyone ever selected from this line up, I am actually curious to know.
Cha cha is a pushy mamasan she sulks if you choose another girl from another mamasan. She deliberately crashes into you when walking past to let you know she's not happy. I just laugh it off to defuse it. But she always gets in your face if you're not picking one of her girls. I have to keep telling her to slow down I need to recharge my dick. Hahaha.
The girls on the sofa on the right hand side of the door before exiting downstairs they look stuck up they don't want to go with me a white guy 35 average looking. Full sofa everyone one of them knocked me back. Said to mamasan she didn't seem bothered just shrugged her shoulders. Not sure what that's all about. Other sofas seemed more willing.
WildInstincts
08-22-24, 07:42
Which visa option did you choose? I don't see an option for tourist / vacation visa??Screenshot attached.
Screenshot attached.Terima kasih. I didn't even think of selecting "family" for tourism visa.
Thanks again,
-Gabacho.
Banana Boi
08-22-24, 13:15
now everyone will go to classic chasing a particular mama san <snip> While chasing another mongers experience you are missing your own amazing ones.Agree. Guys seem to be overthinking Classic and all other bars in Jakarta. If you see a girl, approach her and ask her who her mamasan is. She will happily point out who her mama is. Doesn't matter where the girls are sitting. If she doesn't want you she will say she's busy. If she really was busy guaranteed she will remember your face and come back to you after she's done.
LoveItHere69
08-22-24, 14:29
Maybank also is 3 juta (100 k notes) without bank charge.Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown.
CIMB Niaga
CIMB Niaga often charges a fee similar to other major banks, around 30,000 to 50,000 IDR. However, some users have reported slightly lower fees at CIMB Niaga ATMs.Went there today. Took out max 3 juta 100 k notes 75 k / $5 fee.
LoveItHere69
08-22-24, 17:56
Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown..Remember now. Fee 50 k. Not free.
NoGermaphobe
08-22-24, 21:19
In my experience, each ATM (even from the same bank) can be different in terms of the maximum withdrawal limit and the denominations of bills it has. 50 K /100 K.
It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.
Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown.
Went there today. Took out max 3 juta 100 k notes 75 k / $5 fee.
For the sake of naming the side, let's call it Exile side as it seems girls in exile or time out tantrums.
TBH I've had several gem pulled from that side including a couple Threesome. I've never enquired to why girls are from exile side reluctant to spread their legs open but will definitely find out this time.
Delbo, totally man. Those girls in the extreme corner don't care a fuck and are least bothered / interested in customers. Some of them seem to be good, all said, I have never seen them going down with customers and don't know which mamas look after them. Has anyone ever selected from this line up, I am actually curious to know.
NoGermaphobe
08-22-24, 21:39
Just read this elsewhere. I didn't know it. But it makes sense.
50 K note ATMs will be 1.25 mil or 1.5 mil maximum withdrawal. Basically either 25 or 30 banknotes.
100 K note ATMs should be either 2.5 mil or 3 mil max withdrawal. With 30 banknotes being the max.
LoveItHere69
08-22-24, 23:11
It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.True. Plus, some guys are using credit versus debit cards at the ATM.
I tried an ATM app off Google Play. It was a joke. Only listed 3 different banks and only the ones at the bank locations from what I could tell. Not showing stand alone ATMs.
Not much but I have posted in other areas so that others can benefit from it.
2. I haven't seen a lot of reports on Yogyakarta in the "Other Areas" thread. Any suggestions for places there or links to FR's?
In my experience, each ATM (even from the same bank) can be different in terms of the maximum withdrawal limit and the denominations of bills it has. 50 K /100 K.
It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.Yes, very confusing. Not standardised.
I had shown with attachment file whereby BNI is 2. 0 jt for my WISE prepaid card. (20 pieces of notes).
You are right, in very generally the ATM dispensed 25 or 30 pieces of notes.
If you ask around, most people in Jakarta shall tell you 2. 5 jt or 1. 25 jt or they even do not know about this limit.
For them, they mostly only know BCA and will not do the maximum withdrawal at the ATM machine.
For amount of 2. 5 jt, mostly go to counter.
My experience of max ATM withdrawal is very bad. CRAPPP.
Average Geek
08-23-24, 12:34
Not much but I have posted in other areas so that others can benefit from it.Will take a look again. A lot of the reports seemed quite old which is not a great sign I guess.
Agree. Guys seem to be overthinking Classic and all other bars in Jakarta. If you see a girl, approach her and ask her who her mamasan is. She will happily point out who her mama is. Doesn't matter where the girls are sitting. If she doesn't want you she will say she's busy. If she really was busy guaranteed she will remember your face and come back to you after she's done.I also think that mamas aren't as bad for newbies as some guys have said, and that superstar Cha Cha has been overblown. (She seems to know that theres a buzz about her with foreign newbies.). On my first Classic visit, the mamas weren't nearly as aggressive as I expected. True, they were waiting like a wolfpack at the Terminal entrance and the past reports recommending that you walk immediately past them were good advice. They give up on you after 1. 5 seconds if you move fast enough and they even leave you alone for a good while if you don't look eager. Once they started approaching me, they were playfully pushy and would just move on if I didn't respond or directly but politely told them not right now.
In my brief experiences thus far, Cha Cha was the most aggressive, bringing new girls to my table every 5 minutes or so and even setting a couple down with me, but I just asked them to leave and they did. She tried to push them on me in pairs, some undesirables, which I usually declined. I only took her up on one of her 21 yo girls that I found to my taste but didn't agree to all my terms so left.
Other mamas also shifted between fine and annoying from moment to moment, so I find it hard to generalize for other new guys. I think you just need to go and get into it a few times, if you like it. My thing with Classic is that I just didn't find it that fun. The band is too loud but theres no good rocking going on because everyone just sits around. Then as others have said, its too dark to see what the girls really look like quickly. Yeah, you got to learn to weed them out, but it can be hit or miss like other parts of Asia, even when you think you got a gem, when you get down to the room you still see the baby damage, pear shape, sagging tits, or tooth misplacement that you swear wasn't there a minute before.
And the Terms & Conditions negotiation is much the same as anywhere I've been. Take a couple girls I went with for 3 some from mamasan Diamond (Inzan, not sure of spelling, but looks very masculine). Yuki is from countryside was 20 and F from Jakarta 22. F tried to tell me I would only get 60 minutes and 1 shot even though 2 girls BS, but when I told her that Mama confirmed 2 shots 90 minutes for the 500 k she changed her tune. Even then, once we got downstairs it was Nestles Quick and Instant Coffee. Yuki was somewhat lame attitude. She did get wet as I fingered her while F did BBBJ and BBFS cowgirl and she gave me decent BBBJ with aggressive ball sucking, but she wasn't much fun and rode a robotic cowgirl CFS. F wanted CFS but agreed to BBFS for an undefined tip (later gave her 150 k). Both had babies: F had baby damage but seriously fine ass to marvel at while pumping her from behind.
Neither allowed DATY in the end though both said it would be ok back at the table upstairs (wtf). This initially broke my heart LOL but Yuki was a bit smelly so no prob in the end. Their lack of interplay and mixed enthusiasm (F was fun and wild, but Yuki wasn't) stunted my growth so only did 1 shot and didn't want 2nd. I finished early by my choice, because the room was kind a rancid and they felt hurried. I gave 50 k tip to Yuki (she didn't deserve it) and 150 tip to F (well deserved). There was also an altercation in the room next door as I went back upstairs. A Chinese guy was having a major fight with mamasan. Thought it might escalate so I bolted.
I wouldn't repeat these 2, and sorry to say that I aint as mesmerized with Indo girls as a lot of guys are. IMHO, the real hotties are a small minority and fucking full of themselves. Classic and other downscale joints aren't really my thing either. Its just a bit chaotic without the crazy fun IMO, hit or miss with the girls, and then too rushed. I know most dudes don't care about the atmosphere, but I don't like fucking with mamasans clock ticking. However, I got to admit that the damage is very cheap, so nothing lost. Only cost me under USD100 over several hours for both Spa facility with food and drink and also Terminal threesome with 3 beers, bad nasi goreng dinner, water, 2 packs of cigs and tips.
Also, note that the basement Spa has suddenly upped its prices. New price list below. I protested like an SOB when they showed me but gave up after several tries and went upstairs, because wasn't impressed by spa girls.
"I also think that mamas aren't as bad for newbies as some guys have said, and that superstar Cha Cha has been overblown. (She seems to know that theres a buzz about her with foreign newbies.). On my first Classic visit, the mamas weren't nearly as aggressive as I expected. True, they were waiting like a wolfpack at the Terminal entrance and the past reports recommending that you walk immediately past them were good advice. They give up on you after 1. 5 seconds if you move fast enough and they even leave you alone for a good while if you don't look eager. Once they started approaching me, they were playfully pushy and would just move on if I didn't respond or directly but politely told them not right now.
In my brief experiences thus far, Cha Cha was the most aggressive, bringing new girls to my table every 5 minutes or so and even setting a couple down with me, but I just asked them to leave and they did. She tried to push them on me in pairs, some undesirables, which I usually declined. I only took her up on one of her 21 yo girls that I found to my taste but didn't agree to all my terms so left.
Other mamas also shifted between fine and annoying from moment to moment, so I find it hard to generalize for other new guys. I think you just need to go and get into it a few times, if you like it. My thing with Classic is that I just didn't find it that fun. The band is too loud but theres no good rocking going on because everyone just sits around. Then as others have said, its too dark to see what the girls really look like quickly. Yeah, you got to learn to weed them out, but it can be hit or miss like other parts of Asia, even when you think you got a gem, when you get down to the room you still see the baby damage, pear shape, sagging tits, or tooth misplacement that you swear wasn't there a minute before. ".
Also noticed the mamasans were less aggressive when I was there early this month. Maybe management got the word.
I always walk pass them and check out the inventory before I sit down tell, them I want to have a drink first.
Thanks for the report!
Member #3088
08-24-24, 04:34
Yes, very confusing. Not standardised.
I had shown with attachment file whereby BNI is 2. 0 jt for my WISE prepaid card. (20 pieces of notes).
You are right, in very generally the ATM dispensed 25 or 30 pieces of notes.
If you ask around, most people in Jakarta shall tell you 2. 5 jt or 1. 25 jt or they even do not know about this limit.
For them, they mostly only know BCA and will not do the maximum withdrawal at the ATM machine.
For amount of 2. 5 jt, mostly go to counter.
My experience of max ATM withdrawal is very bad. CRAPPP.You can do this: insert card. Withdraw limit (whatever it is). Repeat transaction. Withdraw limit. Etc.
The 'limit' is per withdrawal, but you can make multiple withdrawals at the same visit.
Strange. But true.
RodneyRude
08-24-24, 06:33
Not sure which URL you used. Below is the official immigration site and they charge IDR 519,000. The eVisa was instantaneous at least in my case. When the payment transaction completed I got an email with the eVisa pdf file.
https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/Yes that was the site I used, it took 4 days to come through for me.
RodneyRude
08-24-24, 06:35
Does anyone have any recent updates on the bars in Blok M, particularly on Jalan Melawai and Jalan Falatehan? Is it worth staying in this area for a change? Most of the nightlife seems to be concentrated on the North side, including Kota Indah, Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta, Kelapa Gading. My favorites are New Royal, Starmoon, Kings Cross, Hotel Classic in these areas.Onkly the dregs left in blok M and only 2 bars open well 3 if you count obamas, there empty most nights, Blok M has had its heyday unfortunatly.
True. Plus, some guys are using credit versus debit cards at the ATM.
I tried an ATM app off Google Play. It was a joke. Only listed 3 different banks and only the ones at the bank locations from what I could tell. Not showing stand alone ATMs.Didn't try in Jakarta, but other places I've been google maps works ok. Just enter "ATM near me".
You can do this: insert card. Withdraw limit (whatever it is). Repeat transaction. Withdraw limit. Etc.
The 'limit' is per withdrawal, but you can make multiple withdrawals at the same visit.
Strange. But true.This is not strange, they want to make you pay multiple ATM fees. When the ATM is of a kind where you can swipe the card instead of feeding it inside machine, I don't mind so much. It only takes a 2-second power cut or a random malfunction for your card to be lost inside an ATM.
If you actually rent a hotel room at Classic is it possible to bring girls from Classic Terminal back to your room or do you still have to use the short time rooms?
This is not strange, they want to make you pay multiple ATM fees. When the ATM is of a kind where you can swipe the card instead of feeding it inside machine, I don't mind so much. It only takes a 2-second power cut or a random malfunction for your card to be lost inside an ATM.I don't know if this works in Indonesia, but what worked in Thailand 10-15 years ago or so, when Thailand too introduced a similar fee for using ATMs with foreign cards, was to go inside the bank itself and say you want to do a "cash advance" at the counter with your foreign credit / debit card. They'd then swipe your card on their local machine, and I think I had to present my passport too, and sign the copy they made of it at the counter.
The benefits of this was two-fold (or three if you include your fear of the ATM swallowing the card): 1) no ATM fee. 2) no withdrawal limit as far as I could tell, except the one your own bank imposes.
Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown. You go to Novotel Jakarta Gajah Mada hotel, and next to it, there is a Maybank Bank. There are two ATMs there where you can withdraw 3 juta! The address is as follows:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/xk1EqntGdPpRFd9U7
Remember now. Fee 50 k. Not free.I used Wire debit Card in last week. 3,000,000 no fee.
Remember now. Fee 50 k. Not free.Get Schwab or Fidelity.
Yes. Very much possible. Been there done that and no issues. As long as you book your room for 2. Classic front desk really doesn't care much as long as there isn't any issues raising from it such as aggressive behavior or fighting. However you may be unsuccessful to bring in a mama if you fancy one.
If you actually rent a hotel room at Classic is it possible to bring girls from Classic Terminal back to your room or do you still have to use the short time rooms?
Returning the favor to those that provided field reports.
Visa.
I tried several times to obtain the evisa but could not figure out how to pay. So arrived at CGK with no evisa and expected to wait one hour in the VOA line. It took about 8 minutes and I had my visa. Don't forget to follow up by scanning the QR code. You'll know what I mean when you arrive.
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Then later I get a whatsapp from a "girl" that texted "Hi. Do you remember me?" Her whatsapp name is "Massage Traditional. " I replied "how did we meet?" She wrote back and said she saw my Tinder location was Jakarta. It must have been same scamming agency! So I blocked that a-hole.
The End.I was in Jakarta from a Friday to a Tuesday. Just a first time visit to satisfy my curiosity. Here's a brief report on Days 3-5.
TINDER
Tinder in Jakarta works very well. It was my first time using Tinder so I bought a one week subscription. I received many unsolicited messages immediately upon activation.
Some girls would abruptly stop replying while you're engaged in back and forth messaging. I already was aware of this based on FRs here so it didn't bother me. Lots of filtering so the 3 girls I met sort of looked like their pics.
Be careful of catfish and girls who 1) immediately offer a massage or 2) immediately ask to whatsapp or 3) ask for your name and hotel room number.
EMPORIUM
Highly recommend. Girls are higher quality than Classic. Couldn't real differentiate between the 1. 2 and 1. 4 groups. Only went once. Saw 1 girl. Got her WA. She came over to Luminor for a sleepover. I paid 3 M because 1) she's a 9. 5 in my book and 2) I don't like to take advantage over the currency exchange. Bad karma.
CLASSIC
Only one visit. Glad I went. Deliberately arrived at 5. Saw girls in first floor getting hair and makeup in hotel salons.
Went to Terminal 5 on 5th FL since they open at 3 pm. Backpack searched. Got a wristband. Entered. Immediately engaged by aggressive mamasan. Told her I wanted to walk around. She gave me hissy fit. Walked around. Many sofas. Maybe 90+ girls. Only 10% were worthy to me.
Re-engaged hissy fit mamasan. She brought me a thin and very good looking girl. She asked if I'm interested in a 3-some. Fuck yeah I am, lady! Brought another girl. Cute enough and thin. I pointed upwards indicating lets go to the fuck room.
When entering room, showed staff timer on my phone: ticking downward from 90 min.
Small room w shower and bed. Got nekkid. Showered w cute girl. Laid on bed and let her do her routine. Very sterile. Wiped me down. Condom was tight. Asian men must have really small dicks LOL.
Jammed her. Then swapped to jam Cute Enough Girl. Both fake moaning hoping I'the finish early. That ticked me off so hammered Cute Enough Girl while Cute Girl was fake moaning and tapping my ass.
More fake moaning from both. Continued jam session. Cute Enough Girl's fake moans turned to legit moans. More "are you finished?" which made me hammer harder LOL.
Done. They asked for tips. I said "you girls wanted me to finish early!" just to mess with them. They asked for 100 K each (US $6) so I acquiesced. Would I repeat? Yes. So cheap.
CIVIES
Many beautiful civies. I casually said Hi to a few. Not enough time to engage and groom.
WIR
Jakarta is not a beautiful city like Prague, Paris, etc. But since its cheap and easy to monger, I probably would repeat. However, I'the like to visit Bali even tho too touristy. I like beaches.
Yes. Very much possible. Been there done that and no issues. As long as you book your room for 2. Classic front desk really doesn't care much as long as there isn't any issues raising from it such as aggressive behavior or fighting. However you may be unsuccessful to bring in a mama if you fancy one.Thank you zippos for your response. I wonder why more guys don't do it that way. So in other words you can turn it into a set up not too dissimilar from the infamous mansion in Medellin. In which I have an on-site room and I can just go down (or up) to the terminal, find a girl I like, pay the 376 k IDR take out fee and then bring her back to my own personal hotel room to have my way with her for an hour.
The only difference being that Classic Terminal has what about 250 working girls (12 mamasans each with about 20 girls?) vs mansion has like 15 to 20 old hags that charge way more than 100 mil pesos (376 k equivalent over there).
And there is classic spa and a restaurant built into the same building as well?? And I wouldn't even need to take a gojek anywhere unless if I wanted to check out a different venue.
Staying at Classic Hotel sounds like a no-brainer to me.
-Gabacho.
Thank you zippos for your response. I wonder why more guys don't do it that way. So in other words you can turn it into a set up not too dissimilar from the infamous mansion in Medellin. In which I have an on-site room and I can just go down (or up) to the terminal, find a girl I like, pay the 376 k IDR take out fee and then bring her back to my own personal hotel room to have my way with her for an hour.
The only difference being that Classic Terminal has what about 250 working girls (12 mamasans each with about 20 girls?) vs mansion has like 15 to 20 old hags that charge way more than 100 mil pesos (376 k equivalent over there).
And there is classic spa and a restaurant built into the same building as well?? And I wouldn't even need to take a gojek anywhere unless if I wanted to check out a different venue..Classic is like an all-inclusive Fuck Resort. Outstanding business model.
Short report from a trip in August 2024:
- Travel Hotel did it for me twice (390 k FS +100 k tip), around 30 girls, last table from entrance had a few stunners of which I took one. Rooms are clean. You need "book" the package at the entrance and then tell the Mamasan that you have done so.
- Checked out Lokasari twice. Only spotted some girls whom I would never touch (looked like under age / drug addicts).
- Tinder is full of freelancers who ask you to pay for the trip into town (which might get more expensive due to traffic, blah, blah). I did this nevertheless for bareheaded GF experience. Girl (expectedly) was not as beautiful as in Tinder pics. Still enjoyed the time with her at my hotel and sent her home after the deed. Total damage same as in Travel (including her Grab bike), but you may well end up paying a lot more. Tinder also has a lot of girls who look for sugar daddies.
- Otherwise be. A. t. S. Seems to be the place for freelancers, but I didn't go.
Thanks for all the advice that I found in this forum.
AddictedToWomen
08-25-24, 23:12
Yes that was the site I used, it took 4 days to come through for me.Was immediate for me.
Expat American
08-26-24, 05:48
Thank you zippos for your response. I wonder why more guys don't do it that way. So in other words you can turn it into a set up not too dissimilar from the infamous mansion in Medellin. In which I have an on-site room and I can just go down (or up) to the terminal, find a girl I like, pay the 376 k IDR take out fee and then bring her back to my own personal hotel room to have my way with her for an hour.
The only difference being that Classic Terminal has what about 250 working girls (12 mamasans each with about 20 girls?) vs mansion has like 15 to 20 old hags that charge way more than 100 mil pesos (376 k equivalent over there).
And there is classic spa and a restaurant built into the same building as well?? And I wouldn't even need to take a gojek anywhere unless if I wanted to check out a different venue..That's not how Classic works. But go ahead and try and let us know what you find. There's a reason the very most experienced mongers never stay at Classic hotel.
Let me clarify few things before you pull the trigger.
Pros:
1. No questions asked it's a 1 stop shop / mall. I remember, my first trip (many moons back) I didn't leave Classic for good 4 days! Because they had everything I needed both for day game and night game.
2. Room: As I stated many times, it's basic room with king bed, safety deposit box, TV (shitty channels), it's clean and good water pressure in shower. Strong Air Conditioning and each room has exhaust if you are a smoker.
3. In room massage: I call it ugly massage. A good friend of mine who used to work there told me, our masseuse are ugly and that's why it's cheap (last time it was 150 k for an HR I think) compared to classic spa. Despite the sarcasm, these 30-40 yrs ages masseuse can give a decent to very good massage with an option of extra. You need to utilize your negotiation skills though. They would demand 1 million for extra. I usually get 3 hrs long massage with extra for 800 k.
4. Also beside the 2 in house restaurant, there is a Thai restaurant within Classic compound. Very good food.
Cons:
1. Room: yes I know, I just said it's decent room but the same room doesn't have source of day light. There are windows but only thing you can see is the next building and alley. It gets you eventually and make you feel like you are stuck in a dungeon. Now that's just me, I have friends who stayed there for week and longer and never felt like that. For that, I suggest to go out and spend more time outside.
In terms of bringing classic girls to your room, do know that, not every girl would want to come to your room simply because it's out of their comfort and safety zone. Most girls that I have taken to my room was for overnight and they knew me already. I'm not too sure if you can just pay for 1 service / HR plus the take out fee and go do your deeds. May not exactly happen that way but you never know. Chances of taking them out for a longer time has brighter possibilities rather than just 1 HR. But, since this topic appeared, I will explore that next month when I'm there. And yes, you can take the dancers out too but after closing for a hefty price (not worth it).
Medellin: you are absolutely spot on, Latina and Asian are 2 different breeds in shapes and sizes. Also, what each kind has on plate to offer. I have had Latinas who would offer A-level to start with where is in Asian, it requires a lot of convincing and most cases a big NO.
Thank you zippos for your response. I wonder why more guys don't do it that way. So in other words you can turn it into a set up not too dissimilar from the infamous mansion in Medellin. In which I have an on-site room and I can just go down (or up) to the terminal, find a girl I like, pay the 376 k IDR take out fee and then bring her back to my own personal hotel room to have my way with her for an hour.
The only difference being that Classic Terminal has what about 250 working girls (12 mamasans each with about 20 girls?) vs mansion has like 15 to 20 old hags that charge way more than 100 mil pesos (376 k equivalent over there)..
I once asked David jokingly "what's the difference between 1.2 and 1.4". He said, prices are set based on look, appearance and service provided by girls." I told him bullshit, it's determined based on what her pussy feels like.
David choked on the drink as he was laughing with me.
To this date I, I honestly couldn't tell the difference. Sometimes 1.2 looks more appealing than the 1.4.
Bottom line, you enjoyed and had fun and that's what it matters.
I was in Jakarta from a Friday to a Tuesday. Just a first time visit to satisfy my curiosity. Here's a brief report on Days 3-5.
EMPORIUM
Highly recommend. Girls are higher quality than Classic. Couldn't real differentiate between the 1. 2 and 1. 4 groups. Only went once. Saw 1 girl. Got her WA. She came over to Luminor for a sleepover. I paid 3 M because 1) she's a 9. 5 in my book and 2) I don't like to take advantage over the currency exchange. Bad karma.
Bro, you got a Tinder babe at a great price, 400 k is awesome, most girls ask anywhere between 1. 5 mn - 2 mn, and I do understand most of them are not going to be close to their pics they uploaded. How was Travel for you, can you share what all you got, I was unlucky at travel the last time. Almost all girls said no to DFK and BBBJ straight away and mamas didn't push them either.
Short report from a trip in August 2024:
- Travel Hotel did it for me twice (390 k FS +100 k tip), around 30 girls, last table from entrance had a few stunners of which I took one. Rooms are clean. You need "book" the package at the entrance and then tell the Mamasan that you have done so.
- Checked out Lokasari twice. Only spotted some girls whom I would never touch (looked like under age / drug addicts).
- Tinder is full of freelancers who ask you to pay for the trip into town (which might get more expensive due to traffic, blah, blah). I did this nevertheless for bareheaded GF experience. Girl (expectedly) was not as beautiful as in Tinder pics. Still enjoyed the time with her at my hotel and sent her home after the deed. Total damage same as in Travel (including her Grab bike), but you may well end up paying a lot more. Tinder also has a lot of girls who look for sugar daddies.
- Otherwise be. A. t. S. Seems to be the place for freelancers, but I didn't go.
Thanks for all the advice that I found in this forum.
I don't know if this works in Indonesia, but what worked in Thailand 10-15 years ago or so, when Thailand too introduced a similar fee for using ATMs with foreign cards, was to go inside the bank itself and say you want to do a "cash advance" at the counter with your foreign credit / debit card. They'd then swipe your card on their local machine, and I think I had to present my passport too, and sign the copy they made of it at the counter.
The benefits of this was two-fold (or three if you include your fear of the ATM swallowing the card): 1) no ATM fee. 2) no withdrawal limit as far as I could tell, except the one your own bank imposes.Yes I remember doing that some 20 years ago in Jakart. That was before ATMs, when credit cards were used only to pay for goods and services.
That's not how Classic works. But go ahead and try and let us know what you find. There's a reason the very most experienced mongers never stay at Classic hotel.Zippos just told me that you can bring girls from terminal back to your room and there's no problem with it unless if you are violent or fighting. Are you saying he was lying?
In terms of bringing classic girls to your room, do know that, not every girl would want to come to your room simply because it's out of their comfort and safety zone. Most girls that I have taken to my room was for overnight and they knew me already. I'm not too sure if you can just pay for 1 service / HR plus the take out fee and go do your deeds. May not exactly happen that way but you never know. Chances of taking them out for a longer time has brighter possibilities rather than just 1 HR. But, since this topic appeared, I will explore that next month when I'm there. And yes, you can take the dancers out too but after closing for a hefty price (not worth it).What if I explain to the mamasan, in Bahassa Indonesia, that I want the service in my own room and offer her a 100 k tip to convince the girls to go with me to my room and / or ask the mamasan to only bring me girls who would be comfortable going to my room?
Expat American
08-27-24, 06:01
The options are:
1. 1 voucher at 365 for service in the on site rooms only.
2. 6 or 7 vouchers, called "booking out" (depending on the time and your negotiation skills) at 365 each and the lady goes to your hotel room till 8 am the next morning.
There is no option for 1 voucher in your own room, even if it is the Classic Hotel. Regardless of what you tip or how you ask. At least I have never seen it or heard about it. I imagine Zippos confused your wanting ST in your room with the booking out option.
If you book out. I would recommend that you have at least tried 1 on site session with the lady so she knows you and you can see how she performs.I just don't understand why people can't come to a place like Classic and enjoy it for it is. A large brothel with many cute girls with on site service at a ridiculously affordable price. Why must you try to turn it into a Thai gogo bar which it is not? If you want take away to your room, there are other options. Tinder or one of the expat bars like BATS and CJs. I have got Classic girls to my hotel, but on their off days and after I have repeated with them multiple times. But I don't go to a business and try to have them change their business model to suit me. If you want LT, Jakarta is not the best place. Just go to Pattaya.
I also stayed at Classic Hotel & curious why more bros don't do the same. It's actually pretty easy to get there from the airport entirely by public transportation if that's your thing & obviously to get around in general. And I read that many people ask you for tips but it's easy to brush off.
Main bad thing for me was that I was running a tinder civvie game & when they found out where I stayed they were asking me if I knew it's basically a brothel.
EXTENSION is quite easy. Everying is done online. I suggest you do 7 days in advance of expiry to be safes. So I have my eVOA on my mobile phone. For an extension I'll have to scan a QR code at the bottom of that document. How to do that with the only mobile phone available?
AddictedToWomen
08-27-24, 11:17
when they found out where I stayed they were asking me if I knew it's basically a brothel.If it was good enough for Feynmann, it's good enough for me!
I just don't understand why people can't come to a place like Classic and enjoy it for it is. A large brothel with many cute girls with on site service at a ridiculously affordable price. Why must you try to turn it into a Thai gogo bar which it is not? If you want take away to your room, there are other options. Tinder or one of the expat bars like BATS and CJs. I have got Classic girls to my hotel, but on their off days and after I have repeated with them multiple times. But I don't go to a business and try to have them change their business model to suit me. If you want LT, Jakarta is not the best place. Just go to Pattaya.Please quote me where I said I was looking for LT?
I never said I was looking for LT I actually prefer ST. I just simply wanted to know if it was possible to bring the girls back from terminal to your own hotel room if you are staying in the on-site rooms there at Classic. I have my reasons for preferring to do the deed at my own place rather than in the short time rooms, mainly being if I don't use up the full 60 minutes I often like to ask the girl for a back massage and I have several different massage oils and balms for this and in my mind it would be easier to just keep those things in my room and pull them out when she does the massage rather than to lug them around with me in my pockets Every time I go to classic terminal.
Thanks for your response though, apparently Zippos misunderstood what I was asking about Classic. Although now I kind of don't see the purpose of staying in a hotel room at Classic if the best reason for staying there is something they do not allow. It's just another brothel in this case and it would make sense to stay in a regular hotel more centrally located between different venues maybe closer to the Kotah Inda Complex for more variety.
Gabacho.
So I have my eVOA on my mobile phone. For an extension I'll have to scan a QR code at the bottom of that document. How to do that with the only mobile phone available?Download this QR Code scanner app from Google Play store and then take a screen shot of the QR code you want to scan and then open up the scanner app and it has an option to scan a QR code from a saved picture. Click that option and select the screenshot from your gallery that it opens up and then it will scan the QR code from the picture and give you options to open the linked website.
Here's a screenshot of what app to look for:
If you want freelancers or independents, CJs, Bats or Eastern Promise are probably your best bet.Are these located in the kotah Inda complex?
Expat American
08-27-24, 13:52
I also stayed at Classic Hotel & curious why more bros don't do the same. It's actually pretty easy to get there from the airport entirely by public transportation if that's your thing & obviously to get around in general. And I read that many people ask you for tips but it's easy to brush off.
Main bad thing for me was that I was running a tinder civvie game & when they found out where I stayed they were asking me if I knew it's basically a brothel.Because for a few bucks more you can stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel that is not a brothel and doesn't smell of smoke and have stained bed sheets. And get a decent breakfast. How hard is it to get a 10 min grab from Gaja Medah to Classic anyway?
Are these located in the kotah Inda complex?Not at all. Bats is within Shangri-La Hotel, CJ is within another 5-star hotel (Mulia).
I also stayed at Classic Hotel & curious why more bros don't do the same. It's actually pretty easy to get there from the airport entirely by public transportation if that's your thing & obviously to get around in general. And I read that many people ask you for tips but it's easy to brush off.
Main bad thing for me was that I was running a tinder civvie game & when they found out where I stayed they were asking me if I knew it's basically a brothel.LOL. What did you answer?
Attila The Hun
08-27-24, 22:39
It will depend on the chick and their situation.
Many of them are living in a group and are watched over.
So leaving to meet up with anybody off hours is GENERALLY not possible.
With that being said, I did have a chick meet up with me while in that scenario.
She told her "guardian" she was going to get cigarettes but came to my hotel for a quickie.
The chick was dressed in her PJs. LOL.
Hahah, good trick, let me try that next time I am back in Jakarta. And next time I want to be close to Classic, rent a room right across the street. Sadly classic hotel itself has shitty internet.
Fuck yes!! I'm currently in Thailand and Indonesia (Jakarta) is going to be the next stop on my Southeast Asia itinerary. Looking forward to sampling the goods on offer at Classic Terminal. I understand the mamasan named Cha Cha has the best girls.
-Gabacho.
Ahw man, I had enough of thailand, just fucking trannies everywhere! And re classic mamas It doesn't matter which mamasan, as others here have already alluded to. Just walk in there early evening (later the good girls are all busy) and take enough time to look at all of them. The mamasan is only there to finalize the transaction. I know they like to think different. LOL.
Jakarta is not the venue to meet girls "outside working hours" in order to avoid "barfines". This is not Thailand. Girls in clubs are indentured labourers. If she comes to your hotel a mamasan will accompany her to collect the money. And when the paid time is over the phone will ring.
If you want free agents you can get them only at places like Bats.
I agree.
What if I explain to the mamasan, in Bahassa Indonesia, that I want the service in my own room and offer her a 100 k tip to convince the girls to go with me to my room and / or ask the mamasan to only bring me girls who would be comfortable going to my room?
Just go every day for a week and everyone knows you there and everyone is comfortable with you. Problem solved. If you see one girl a day for a week and each girl for 375 k IDR / pop, you are only down $170.
You sure can try. Mind though, Classic is setup to enjoy punters time at their establishment. I only took girls out at end of their shift when terminal 2 was closing and that too with mutual agreement between me-girls-mama.
What if I explain to the mamasan, in Bahassa Indonesia, that I want the service in my own room and offer her a 100 k tip to convince the girls to go with me to my room and / or ask the mamasan to only bring me girls who would be comfortable going to my room?
Very much true. Not just a Tinder FL but I could never get my kimochi and Orchid girls agree to come to Classic.
That's one of the reason why I change hotels between FL and Milfs.
For some reason, grips are not from classic don't want to enter the premises.
I also stayed at Classic Hotel & curious why more bros don't do the same. It's actually pretty easy to get there from the airport entirely by public transportation if that's your thing & obviously to get around in general. And I read that many people ask you for tips but it's easy to brush off.
Main bad thing for me was that I was running a tinder civvie game & when they found out where I stayed they were asking me if I knew it's basically a brothel.
BenderOver
08-28-24, 12:20
Landed in Jakarta almost two weeks ago.
Hit the BNI in front of my hotel.
Looks: 7 Nice and clean. Air conditioned. Buttons worked good.
Service: 7 - I pushed the right buttons and satisfaction. 1. 25 juta in 50's.
Entrance: I don't remember. Maybe 50 k.
Recommend / Return: Works in a pinch but I wouldn't return unless I had to.
CIMB in Grand Indo 3 LT.
Looks: 10. I got a line up and I picked number 3 from the left. Clean, smelled nice.
Service: 10 Professional. Be careful, almost stole my ATM card. Make sure you pay attention. Also, don't go for the upsell. I declined the conversion paket and went full service baby! 3 juta.
Entrance: 70 k.
Recommend / Return: Yes and yes.
CIMB in Plaza Indonesia LG.
Looks: 8. Lined up with a bunch of others, I picked this one because I heard of good reputation. But CATFISHED!
Service: 3. I pushed the buttons really good, but reached a point where I wasn't getting any response. Kept getting annoyed response "Are you done or do you need more time?" I didn't understand and just finished the session.
Entrance: 0.
Recommend / Return: NO, but I changed my mind later. See below for explanation.
BCA in Serinah:
Looks 8: In a dirty room, filled with mosquitos. Hard to concentrate and focus. Total turnoff!
Service: 5. I just jammed in my stiff one, pushed the buttons hard, got my 2. 5 jt and booked out as quickly as I could. Of course I declined the conversion. Tidak paket!
Entrance: I don't remember. Was trying to leave as quickly as possible.
Recommend / Return: Good deal but just have to pay attention to the blood suckers in the room.
CIMB in Plaza Indonesia LG:
Looks: See above. I came back to this one because I remembered how to stroke and push the buttons! You see, this one is all about touch. But there's no indication WHERE to touch after asked if you want the conversion paket. It's HIDDEN! Just keep touching around the right about 60% down and eventually, she'll release everything you were trying to get!
Service: Success! 3 jt.
Entrance: 70 k if you don't use the conversion paket.
Recommend / Return: Went back twice already. Would not recommend unless you have the magic touch.
There are two standing in front of Classic lobby, but I usually don't go to them.
Good luck! Happy Hunting!
My next post will be how to get Visas.
BenderOver
08-28-24, 12:47
Went to be-Fashion first. Last time, I had the BEST session there. This trip, my sessions were so bad, I am going to BAN be-Fashion for a long time.
I won't bother even naming girls, because you know by the time you go there, to coordinate shifts and if she's busy and all that, you'll likely never see the same girl anyways. But for some reason, be-Fashion girls are dropping service. I don't know if they are rich or something, but the attitude sucks.
Picked a tall Freelancer.
L: 8. 5 face, body 8. 5. She's slim and tall, huge natural boobs, tiny tiny nipples. Not my favorite way to stack a young lady. Can't remember the age, but somewhere from 19 to 22.
A: 7 Decent attitude but the service wasn't at the level to keep me turned on.
S: 20 minute massage was nothing to remember. Amazing cat licking skills all over. No DFK, actually not much kissing. She was upset whenever my nose touched her nose and told me to not mess up her make-up. BBBJ was ok. CFS just wasn't working out for me. Wouldn't take upsell to go BBFS. When my 60 minutes was up, I couldn't finish. So I got dressed, thanked her, ready to leave.
E: 1. 1 jt + 100 k. She kept trying to give me back the 100 k because she felt bad that she couldn't go BB and left me unfinished. I gave her the 100 k anyways for good cat skills. But I was ready to give her MORE if she would just go BBFS.
RR: No.
Went straight to KI. I think Grand. It's the one across the alley from Starmoon, but not LA. They changed names too. It's the one NEXT to LA.
L: 8 face 8. 5 body. Slim, short, mid but perky boobs. Small nipples. Bushy down there. Smooth skin. 19.
A: 9 No complaints, she must have liked me.
S: 9 Sensual DFK, responded well to DATY, best BBBJ ever. I had to slow her down she was going to make me pop in BBBJ within minutes. Ready for the task, she slid onto me with a naughty look.
E: 350 k earlybird special, 300 k tip.
Are: Yes, and Yes, but I have no idea what her name is and I don't even remember what she looks like. She was wearing cat ears in her hair. Duh, that's 15% of the girls in the fishbowl.
Several Trips to KI. Several Trips to Classic. Too many to review but I'll give the breakdown below:
1) I'm banning be-Fashion. At 800 k for Therapist and 1. 1 jt for Freelance, I had a 0 out of 2 sessions there. Cannot recommend anyone go to take the risk for that price point. If you like CFS, then you should check it out because there are beauties there. But everyone seems to be very arrogant and far too strict on their rules.
2) Classic. This place really turned out well on this trip. If you show up at 3:00 PM, there are about 50 girls working. I would say 5 out of 50 caught my eye. Most of the rest are your skinny young Indo cuties. I had 2 out of 3 good sessions here. The bad one was a girl that had a baby and her body was wrecked. Cute face, but wouldn't kiss, wanted to do a CBJ, when I told her BBBJ, it was a bad one. Of course, she wouldn't even let me near her without putting on a cover. So I just got dressed and walked out 10 minutes into session. I picked another girl and had a great time. Both times I went to Classic, I walked out at 5 PM and holy shit there are 400 girls lined up and so many are so hot! I walked outside and the girls were coming in to start their shift wearing their street clothes. They were riding in on a scooter. One male driver, 3 girls, all on one scooter. Scooter after scooter they were getting delivered to start their shift. So I imagine the place really starts to bounce at 6:00 PM. Really very pretty girls just based on sheer numbers game. Can't go wrong with 400 girls in one room. Oh, I forgot to mention, this was at Terminal 2. LT 5 is closed until December. Also, there is no more minimum 40 k charge now. It's a flat 5 k entry ticket that you have to pay even if you went to the room with a girl.
3) KI. For some reason, I didn't have a great time here this trip. All the girls seem so stuck up now. No DFK, only very light LFK, no response to DATY, some girls were just dry and couldn't even respond to the session. They had to pour the lube on just to make it through the session. Had 4 sessions and none were very memorable except for the first girl first night. I never go to V-Four. I ban that place from over a year ago. I downgrade KI for this session. Yeah, before I used to get smiles and winks and the girls had a crazy sexual time upstairs. Deep kissing, no restrictions on anything, crazy good sessions. This time, every girl had attitude. Still was able to BBFS all of them, but still it wasn't a fun time.
So I have my eVOA on my mobile phone. For an extension I'll have to scan a QR code at the bottom of that document. How to do that with the only mobile phone available?
Download this QR Code scanner app from Google Play store and then take a screen shot of the QR code you want to scan and then open up the scanner app and it has an option to scan a QR code from a saved picture. Click that option and select the screenshot from your gallery that it opens up and then it will scan the QR code from the picture and give you options to open the linked website.
Here's a screenshot of what app to look for:Google Lens can do this.
Irish Mongrel
08-29-24, 00:52
Bro, you got a Tinder babe at a great price, 400 k is awesome, most girls ask anywhere between 1. 5 mn - 2 mn, and I do understand most of them are not going to be close to their pics they uploaded. How was Travel for you, can you share what all you got, I was unlucky at travel the last time. Almost all girls said no to DFK and BBBJ straight away and mamas didn't push them either.Seems like the days of the Tinder freebie are long gone. Picked up an absolute cracker Uni Student in 2018 who I ended up taking all over Asia with me when I travelled, even though she was in a relationship with a bule (didn't know about that initially). Fit as anything, played sport to a high level, all demure on the outside, absolute porn star on the inside, up to threesomes and more. Covid then got in the way. First time we met after Covid she rocked up at my hotel about 5 months pregnant! She had married the bule but I knew nothing about the wedding at the time (was a shotgun arrangement). Punted her at the beginning of the year after she became pregnant with her second kid. Was just coming way to strange.
She is a bit fucked up, literally, even found a video of her on a well know porn site. Guessing she doesn't know about that as she would freak considering what she does now. Wondering if I should break the news to her gently. It's not her husband in the video with her and it is certainly after she had her first kid.
Personally I'd be surprised if some of the senior members in here haven't come across her, she was definitely getting around, and her overseas bule boyfriend / hubby was is very naive. Maybe you're one of the stars int he video. But hey, it was strange fun when it lasted, nothing like banging a girl in a hotel room knowing her husband is working just across the road.
Now it's time to keep it simple. So BATS & CJ's for LT, Classic for the quickie.
Seems like the days of the Tinder freebie are long gone. Picked up an absolute cracker Uni Student in 2018 who I ended up taking all over Asia with me when I travelled, even though she was in a relationship with a bule (didn't know about that initially). Fit as anything, played sport to a high level, all demure on the outside, absolute porn star on the inside, up to threesomes and more. Covid then got in the way. First time we met after Covid she rocked up at my hotel about 5 months pregnant! She had married the bule but I knew nothing about the wedding at the time (was a shotgun arrangement). Punted her at the beginning of the year after she became pregnant with her second kid. Was just coming way to strange.
She is a bit fucked up, literally, even found a video of her on a well know porn site. Guessing she doesn't know about that as she would freak considering what she does now. Wondering if I should break the news to her gently. It's not her husband in the video with her and it is certainly after she had her first kid.
Personally I'd be surprised if some of the senior members in here haven't come across her, she was definitely getting around, and her overseas bule boyfriend / hubby was is very naive. Maybe you're one of the stars int he video. But hey, it was strange fun when it lasted, nothing like banging a girl in a hotel room knowing her husband is working just across the road.
Now it's time to keep it simple. So BATS & CJ's for LT, Classic for the quickie.If it was a girl I was banging for free, as in a friend, I'd definitely help her get the video of the pornsites.
Tinder freebies are not gone. It's just us getting older. Most 20 year old girls would prefer to bang a fit 30 year old guy, rather than a 50+ guy, and who can blame them.
Just out of curiosity, does she goes by the name of Tasya or Maya by any chance I met a freak show once matches the characteristics, took my nerve pain medicine mistakenly thinking it's a regular painkiller mixed with alcohol! Was running around naked in my hotel room at Ascot for several hours, nearly trashed that place. Fun girl with very high ambitions that doesn't get anywhere!
She is a bit fucked up, literally, even found a video of her on a well know porn site. Guessing she doesn't know about that as she would freak considering what she does now. Wondering if I should break the news to her gently. It's not her husband in the video with her and it is certainly after she had her first kid.
2) Classic. This place really turned out well on this trip. If you show up at 3:00 PM, there are about 50 girls working. I would say 5 out of 50 caught my eye. Most of the rest are your skinny young Indo cuties. I had 2 out of 3 good sessions here. The bad one was a girl that had a baby and her body was wrecked. Cute face, but wouldn't kiss, wanted to do a CBJ, when I told her BBBJ, it was a bad one. Of course, she wouldn't even let me near her without putting on a cover. So I just got dressed and walked out 10 minutes into session. I picked another girl and had a great time. Both times I went to Classic, I walked out at 5 PM and holy shit there are 400 girls lined up and so many are so hot! I walked outside and the girls were coming in to start their shift wearing their street clothes. They were riding in on a scooter. One male driver, 3 girls, all on one scooter. Scooter after scooter they were getting delivered to start their shift. So I imagine the place really starts to bounce at 6:00 PM. Really very pretty girls just based on sheer numbers game. Can't go wrong with 400 girls in one room. Oh, I forgot to mention, this was at Terminal 2. LT 5 is closed until December. Also, there is no more minimum 40 k charge now. It's a flat 5 k entry ticket that you have to pay even if you went to the room with a girl.
Excellent report. I went Classic once around 2-3 pm, a Saturday or Sunday, but it looked empty except for the staff cleaning up, so surprised to hear it was so busy when you went there at 3 pm.
Are there any similar places open earlier?
I liked Jakarta a lot as far as p4p went for my first time, so thinking about spending some time there again next time, even though Thailand is my main destination (everything except p4p is much better in Thailand for me).
I'd like to know if there are places with plenty of girls (not just a few that arrived early) that are open around noon too, as it will probably affect how many days I'll devote to Jakarta on my next trip.
Landed in Jakarta almost two weeks ago.
Hit the BNI in front of my hotel.
Looks: 7 Nice and clean. Air conditioned. Buttons worked good.
Service: 7 - I pushed the right buttons and satisfaction. 1. 25 juta in 50's.
Entrance: I don't remember. Maybe 50 k.
Recommend / Return: Works in a pinch but I wouldn't return unless I had to.
CIMB in Grand Indo 3 LT.
Looks: 10. I got a line up and I picked number 3 from the left. Clean, smelled nice.
Service: 10 Professional. Be careful, almost stole my ATM card. Make sure you pay attention. Also, don't go for the upsell. I declined the conversion paket and went full service baby! 3 juta.
Entrance: 70 k.
Recommend / Return: Yes and yes.
CIMB in Plaza Indonesia LG.
Looks: 8. Lined up with a bunch of others, I picked this one because I heard of good reputation. But CATFISHED!
Service: 3. I pushed the buttons really good, but reached a point where I wasn't getting any response. Kept getting annoyed response "Are you done or do you need more time?" I didn't understand and just finished the session.
Entrance: 0.
Recommend / Return: NO, but I changed my mind later. See below for explanation.
BCA in Serinah:
Looks 8: In a dirty room, filled with mosquitos. Hard to concentrate and focus. Total turnoff!
Service: 5. I just jammed in my stiff one, pushed the buttons hard, got my 2. 5 jt and booked out as quickly as I could. Of course I declined the conversion. Tidak paket!
Entrance: I don't remember. Was trying to leave as quickly as possible.
Recommend / Return: Good deal but just have to pay attention to the blood suckers in the room.
CIMB in Plaza Indonesia LG:
Looks: See above. I came back to this one because I remembered how to stroke and push the buttons! You see, this one is all about touch. But there's no indication WHERE to touch after asked if you want the conversion paket. It's HIDDEN! Just keep touching around the right about 60% down and eventually, she'll release everything you were trying to get!
Service: Success! 3 jt.
Entrance: 70 k if you don't use the conversion paket.
Recommend / Return: Went back twice already. Would not recommend unless you have the magic touch.
There are two standing in front of Classic lobby, but I usually don't go to them.
Good luck! Happy Hunting!
My next post will be how to get Visas.Can someone translate this FR into English?
If it was a girl I was banging for free, as in a friend, I'd definitely help her get the video of the pornsites.
Tinder freebies are not gone. It's just us getting older. Most 20 year old girls would prefer to bang a fit 30 year old guy, rather than a 50+ guy, and who can blame them.Coincidentally, on my recent trip (see my two FRs), I asked one of my girls about indo girls' feeling about age difference. The response I received was not good for old guys. Indo girls are different than Thai girls. Thais don't care about age nor age gap. I've dated Thai girls 40 years younger than me. Indo girls from what I learned, don't like big age gaps.
LOL. What did you answer?Could've sworn I replied to this yesterday but this forum is a bit annoying, seems 20% of my posts are not approved or lost in a black hole. I would just plead ignorance and swear blind that I'm still a virgin too.
On the subject of tinder dates, very much a thing getting with civvies. I was in Jakarta for 8 days, had 3 freebies and could've had a 4th but fell asleep when she was wanting to come round (she gets off work at 1 am). Whereas I was in Bangkok recently, met up with 5 and was firing blanks. Another thing Thailand is great but I'm getting sick of Thai food and Indonesian food is more interesting / tasty.
Can someone translate this FR into English?I think he's talking about ATM machines.
Can someone translate this FR into English?The report is funny.
If I understand correctly, he's reporting his cash withdraw from ATM experience but writing like punting experience.
The report is funny.
If I understand correctly, he's reporting his cash withdraw from ATM experience but writing like punting experience.LOL. The first time it went straight over my head and I wondered wtf he was smoking, but re-reading it now, yeah, it's funny. Good job BenderOver.
Indo girls from what I learned, don't like big age gaps.This is bad news. Can other Jakarta veterans provide feedback?
Vendelo, you learned this from ONE girl? Or multiple girls told you this?
I am trying to understand the sample size of this information.
~BKK
Irish Mongrel
08-29-24, 17:18
Just out of curiosity, does she goes by the name of Tasya or Maya by any chance I met a freak show once matches the characteristics, took my nerve pain medicine mistakenly thinking it's a regular painkiller mixed with alcohol! Was running around naked in my hotel room at Ascot for several hours, nearly trashed that place. Fun girl with very high ambitions that doesn't get anywhere!Nah, first name began with a B, surname with a P, that's about as far as I will go.
Irish Mongrel
08-29-24, 17:23
Coincidentally, on my recent trip (see my two FRs), I asked one of my girls about indo girls' feeling about age difference. The response I received was not good for old guys. Indo girls are different than Thai girls. Thais don't care about age nor age gap. I've dated Thai girls 40 years younger than me. Indo girls from what I learned, don't like big age gaps.In contrary, I found they didn't mind. Actually the one I was talking about preferred older guys as they paid her more attention and just weren't interested in the gym and a quick fuck. We know what foreplay is. Her words, not mine. Anyway, she is probably 2 to 4 weeks away from dropping number 2, will keep the Internet surprise till later.
... Another thing Thailand is great but I'm getting sick of Thai food and Indonesian food is more interesting / tasty.Quite right. Problem is, depending on the venue you're ten times as likely to get food poisoning (bacteria) in Indonesia. I stopped eating the delicious "masakan padang" (Padang cuisine) in Indonesia for every time I did so I had 50% chance of spending the night on the shitter. In Padang cuisine people eat with their hands. By the way, do hotels like Hyatt, Meridien, Shangri-La ... still offer superb buffets at give-away prices like they did in the first decade of the century?
This is bad news. Can other Jakarta veterans provide feedback?
Vendelo, you learned this from ONE girl? Or multiple girls told you this?
I am trying to understand the sample size of this information.
~BKKIn Jakarta the mamasan calls the shots. If the mamasan doesn't care about age gaps, chances are the girl doesn't care either.
Coincidentally, on my recent trip (see my two FRs), I asked one of my girls about indo girls' feeling about age difference. The response I received was not good for old guys. Indo girls are different than Thai girls. Thais don't care about age nor age gap. I've dated Thai girls 40 years younger than me. ...Really? If only that were true. Living in TH I find Thai girls to care a hell of a lot about age gaps these days. Many girls on ThaiFriendly make in clear upfront they don't want older men (screenshot below). Note there's no reason why indonesian girls should be much different. However in many Indonesian venues girls may seldom be able to afford rejecting older customers. In our hobby this matters more than the frame of mind of today's teenage generation. And yes, this may be one more reason to ignore the online market when mongering in Indonesia.
All good bud. At least you had fun.
Nah, first name began with a B, surname with a P, that's about as far as I will go.
Depends on what is your goal and what you are looking for and who you get!
If you are after ONS with regular Tinder or any social media girls with no money exchange terms, probably not much of luck as Indo girls do tend to look for younger / less age gaps.
Now if it comes to P4 P, 90% would careless about the age as long as they get paid for it. Honestly I haven't come across any situation like that but any regular girl I would come across, would always ask for my age. I have had girls with age differences between 10-15 yrs and never had any issues.
This is bad news. Can other Jakarta veterans provide feedback?
Vendelo, you learned this from ONE girl? Or multiple girls told you this?
I am trying to understand the sample size of this information.
~BKK
Never been to Indonesia but by accident on my you tube a vlooger by the name Cam Nakal6.
A69 came up. He rides around Jakarta om motorcycle and shows all these girls working. Kinda of poor looking place but intet4 stnj. Any comme.
Nt on price.
NRandom940
08-30-24, 01:44
Quite right. Problem is, depending on the venue you're ten times as likely to get food poisoning (bacteria) in Indonesia. IOn my only trip to Jakarta, I took one bite of the "porridge" they served at hotel breakfast. Immediately I felt nauseous and vomited it back in the bowl. Who knows what my vomit reflex saved me from.
In contrary, I found they didn't mind. Actually the one I was talking about preferred older guys as they paid her more attention and just weren't interested in the gym and a quick fuck. We know what foreplay is. Her words, not mine. Anyway, she is probably 2 to 4 weeks away from dropping number 2, will keep the Internet surprise till later.It really depends on the girl & if you look your age / look younger & keep fit in my experience.
In Bangkok I was recently with a 21-year old for a month or so.
In Jakarta was with 22-25 range & even an 18- year old who worked at a hotel but I fell asleep when she wanted to come round as it was 2 am. These are civvies not FL, I'm telling you bros that Jakarta girls are gagging for it compared to Bkk ladies.
ChiliChill
08-30-24, 03:06
Hey,
I've spent a while reading the forums, and it looks like there's plenty of freelancers to be found in expat bars. I'll only be in town for a couple of days, and I'll be in business meetings all day, then staying at a hotel (don't know which one yet) provided by my employer. I'm not sure if I'll have time to get out to the bars and bring a girl back.
Are there agencies who can provide delivery girls to hotels? I'm hoping for a threesome.
I checked Smooci and there are a handful of girls on there, none with reviews, so it seems maybe Smooci hasn't hit Jakarta yet?
Any advice is appreciated.
Chili.
JonnySutton
08-30-24, 11:39
So it's my first time in Indonesia and wanted to get some advice; what are my best options. I am chatting to a number of girls on Seeking but wondered how they compared to tinder girls over there and to the girls at the clubs. I prefer the longer meets with dinner etc and Seeking has always been good for this (in Europe at least), but as I don't have loads of time I need tp prioritise and was wondering how the tinder girls and the girls at BATS / CJ might compare, and also, in terms of looks how do the club / spa girls at Emporium / Classic compare?
Google Lens can do this.As far as I know Google Lense (which is a function of the Google Translate App) is for using the camera of the phone to take a picture of something written (a restaurant menu for example) in another language / script (Such as Thai, Japanese, Mandarin, etc) and Google lense then translates the foreign text in the picture into English and overlays it on top of the original text. It has become quite here in Thailand where I currently am. However Google Lense is not capable of reading a QR code. For that he needs to use a QR code scanner such as the one I had mentioned in my previous post.
-Gabacho.
As far as I know Google Lense (which is a function of the Google Translate App) is for using the camera of the phone to take a picture of something written (a restaurant menu for example) in another language / script (Such as Thai, Japanese, Mandarin, etc) and Google lense then translates the foreign text in the picture into English and overlays it on top of the original text. It has become quite here in Thailand where I currently am. However Google Lense is not capable of reading a QR code. For that he needs to use a QR code scanner such as the one I had mentioned in my previous post.
-Gabacho.Quite helpful
Joe Brooklyn
08-31-24, 03:48
Quick question: Is mid to late October a bad time to visit Jakarta / Bandung in terms of rainfall? I don't want to get caught up in monsoon rains and floods in the city. Google gives me conflicting answers.
As far as I know Google Lense (which is a function of the Google Translate App) is for using the camera of the phone to take a picture of something written (a restaurant menu for example) in another language / script (Such as Thai, Japanese, Mandarin, etc) and Google lense then translates the foreign text in the picture into English and overlays it on top of the original text. It has become quite here in Thailand where I currently am. However Google Lense is not capable of reading a QR code. For that he needs to use a QR code scanner such as the one I had mentioned in my previous post.
-Gabacho.Google Lens doesn't only translate text. It can read / scan QR codes.
I've done it on my phone.
Check the internet.
Gonz0.
Joe Brooklyn
08-31-24, 14:48
Unfortunately, I have to cancel my mongering trip to Jakarta and Bandung scheduled for mid-Sep. Considering postponing it to mid-Oct.
Is this a good time to visit? Will there be heavy rains and flooding? I'm getting conflicting info about this on the internet. Please clarify. Thanks.
Unfortunately, I have to cancel my mongering trip to Jakarta and Bandung scheduled for mid-Sep. Considering postponing it to mid-Oct.
Is this a good time to visit? Will there be heavy rains and flooding? I'm getting conflicting info about this on the internet. Please clarify. Thanks.Hi Joe,
Only certain parts of Jakarta that would normally have regular flooding during heavy rain. However, they have improved significantly lately. Worst case scenario, you could always organise the girls to meet you at your hotel.
Joe Brooklyn
08-31-24, 20:58
Hi Joe,
Only certain parts of Jakarta that would normally have regular flooding during heavy rain. However, they have improved significantly lately. Worst case scenario, you could always organise the girls to meet you at your hotel.Hmm. That doesn't sound too good. I may just cancel my trip altogether, instead of rescheduling it, and go in June or July maybe in a year or 2.
I've been in Jakarta for the whole of August with work, flying back to the USA tomorrow. A friend of mine recommended Couchsurfing for finding college / uni girls in Indonesia as it's really popular with young people looking to make friends with foreigners and practice their English.
I hit the jackpot within 2 days of making an account. Put an advert out seeking a "tour guide" to show me around Jakarta, and in return I'd offer free meals and a chance to practice their English. Just kept it simple like that.
Received 17 replies (3 were from guys. Nothing homosexual, my advert was totally innocent and looking to meet anyone who wanted to practice their English). I was quite selective and picked the prettiest looking girl. She also had a great sense of humour chatting (we switched to Whatsapp after exchanging numbers). 19 years old, in a full-time minimum wage job as an office assistant, bored and looking to have some fun. Very curvy (but not fat), exactly 5 foot tall, model-esque face, massive natural knockers, full Bush (but I later got her to shave).
We met in a shopping mall for our first "date" and she could barely keep her hands off me. Went straight back to my hotel after dinner and fucked her all night. From then on she basically lived in my hotel, only going home to her family on the weekend. She still lived at home with parents so had to be creative about staying out during the week, told her family she was on some kind of training course just outside the city and the company were letting them sleep in the office to avoid commuting.
The first week the sex was pretty vanilla but she quickly became a sexual freak. I got her the birth control pill from a pharmacy, they take a week to start working so we waited, but the last 2 weeks have been creampie galore. I introduced her to anal, the first attempt was painful and put her off but she wanted to try again a few days later and it was amazing. Some of the things she did really surprised me, after 2 weeks she nervously asked "Can I try licking your ass, I've seen it in porn and I want to try. " needless to say that was music to my ears! She loved CIM and would literally wake up begging me to allow her to suck me off and drink my "milk".
The real highlight was 3 days ago though, I bought her some expensive gifts as we're parting ways soon, and in return she promised me a surprise before I left. She came back from work to my hotel with her best friend (not as good looking, but still 8/10 and bangable) and told me they wanted to try a threesome. Her friend was already on birth control so it was a total night of debauchery, I made them slurp my creampies out of each others' pussies. Finally fell asleep around 4 am with one girl sleeping either side of me. Heaven.
I'm going to miss Indonesia. I'm wondering whether to keep her contact details in case I return again, but thinking I'll just take the happy memories and walk away, otherwise I won't stop thinking about her and she may start asking for money.
Ultimately it's your decision on how to proceed but if this helps, I was stuck in middle of one of the worst flood Jakarta had experienced during 2019 Christmas to New year and I was still able to do my deeds without much issues. Yes, there were certain part that was affected but places we visit, not so much.
Hmm. That doesn't sound too good. I may just cancel my trip altogether, instead of rescheduling it, and go in June or July maybe in a year or 2.
I've been in Jakarta for the whole of August with work, flying back to the USA tomorrow. A friend of mine recommended Couchsurfing for finding college / uni girls in Indonesia as it's really popular with young people looking to make friends with foreigners and practice their English.
I hit the jackpot within 2 days of making an account. Put an advert out seeking a "tour guide" to show me around Jakarta, and in return I'd offer free meals and a chance to practice their English. Just kept it simple like that.
...
I'm going to miss Indonesia. I'm wondering whether to keep her contact details in case I return again, but thinking I'll just take the happy memories and walk away, otherwise I won't stop thinking about her and she may start asking for money.I was getting ready to ask her to marry before I was halfway through that story.
Couchsurfing, eh? Sounds interesting.
FFlintstone69
09-01-24, 09:00
I've been in Jakarta for the whole of August with work, flying back to the USA tomorrow. A friend of mine recommended Couchsurfing for finding college / uni girls in Indonesia as it's really popular with young people looking to make friends with foreigners and practice their English.
I hit the jackpot within 2 days of making an account. Put an advert out seeking a "tour guide" to show me around Jakarta, and in return I'd offer free meals and a chance to practice their English. Just kept it simple like that.
Received 17 replies (3 were from guys. Nothing homosexual, my advert was totally innocent and looking to meet anyone who wanted to practice their English). I was quite selective and picked the prettiest looking girl. She also had a great sense of humour chatting (we switched to Whatsapp after exchanging numbers). 19 years old, in a full-time minimum wage job as an office assistant, bored and looking to have some fun. Very curvy (but not fat), exactly 5 foot tall, model-esque face, massive natural knockers, full Bush (but I later got her to shave).
We met in a shopping mall for our first "date" and she could barely keep her hands off me. Went straight back to my hotel after dinner and fucked her all night. From then on she basically lived in my hotel, only going home to her family on the weekend. She still lived at home with parents so had to be creative about staying out during the week, told her family she was on some kind of training course just outside the city and the company were letting them sleep in the office to avoid commuting.
The first week the sex was pretty vanilla but she quickly became a sexual freak. I got her the birth control pill from a pharmacy, they take a week to start working so we waited, but the last 2 weeks have been creampie galore. I introduced her to anal, the first attempt was painful and put her off but she wanted to try again a few days later and it was amazing. Some of the things she did really surprised me, after 2 weeks she nervously asked "Can I try licking your ass, I've seen it in porn and I want to try. " needless to say that was music to my ears! She loved CIM and would literally wake up begging me to allow her to suck me off and drink my "milk".
The real highlight was 3 days ago though, I bought her some expensive gifts as we're parting ways soon, and in return she promised me a surprise before I left. She came back from work to my hotel with her best friend (not as good looking, but still 8/10 and bangable) and told me they wanted to try a threesome. Her friend was already on birth control so it was a total night of debauchery, I made them slurp my creampies out of each others' pussies. Finally fell asleep around 4 am with one girl sleeping either side of me. Heaven.
I'm going to miss Indonesia. I'm wondering whether to keep her contact details in case I return again, but thinking I'll just take the happy memories and walk away, otherwise I won't stop thinking about her and she may start asking for money.Share 1 face photo.
Lucky you for finding such companion. Does that mean you didn't get to visit any of those joints that we frequent?
Your happy memories will always be there whether you make a clean slate now or after many moons down the road. As long as you don't send her money and she ending up blocking you, which may indeed will turn into to bitter one.
I often say this, "once you open an account, you can always do transactions" why not just keep her in loop. Will definitely come in handy in future.
I'm going to miss Indonesia. I'm wondering whether to keep her contact details in case I return again, but thinking I'll just take the happy memories and walk away, otherwise I won't stop thinking about her and she may start asking for money.
I've been in Jakarta for the whole of August with work, flying back to the USA tomorrow. A friend of mine recommended Couchsurfing for finding college / uni girls in Indonesia as it's really popular with young people looking to make friends with foreigners and practice their English.
You posted pretty much the same report seven years ago. So was this your first time couchsurfing in Jakarta or the previous one. Sounds a little too good to be true.
You posted pretty much the same report seven years ago. So was this your first time couchsurfing in Jakarta or the previous one. Sounds a little too good to be true.My second time but I'd long forgotten about the previous time and my account on there was no longer active. Had to create a new one.
No face photos to respect her privacy, but here's a photo of her pussy. To be honest I hardly took any pics, and didn't take any videos of our sexcapades. Not my thing. I'm sure she'd have been up for it though.
No face photos to respect her privacy, but here's a photo of her pussy. To be honest I hardly took any pics, and didn't take any videos of our sexcapades. Not my thing. I'm sure she'd have been up for it though.Really pretty pussy. Looks like she waxes. Am I right?
... I'm wondering whether to keep her contact details in case I return again, but thinking I'll just take the happy memories and walk away, otherwise I won't stop thinking about her and she may start asking for money.I've been there. Keep the contact. I didn't bc I thought this will never work and have regret.
No face photos to respect her privacy, but here's a photo of her pussy. To be honest I hardly took any pics and didn't take any videos of our sexcapades. Not my thing. I'm sure she'd have been up for it though.Actually, it's difficult to get a good vagina lip (labia) for Indonesian women since they do female castration when they are born due to religious reason. I have seen many women has literally lost whole vaginas and looks very odd.
NoGermaphobe
09-02-24, 05:28
PSA for those interested. I have it on good authority that Classic Terminal 5 will re-open on Wednesday, 4 September, 2024.
Banana Boi
09-02-24, 05:41
PSA for those interested. I have it on good authority that Classic Terminal 5 will re-open on Wednesday, 4 September, 2024.Vendelo posted a week ago (see below) that it was already open and there were 90+ girls on 5th floor.
CLASSIC
Only one visit. Glad I went. Deliberately arrived at 5. Saw girls in first floor getting hair and makeup in hotel salons.
Went to Terminal 5 on 5th FL since they open at 3 pm. Backpack searched. Got a wristband. Entered. Immediately engaged by aggressive mamasan. Told her I wanted to walk around. She gave me hissy fit. Walked around. Many sofas. Maybe 90+ girls. Only 10% were worthy to me.
NoGermaphobe
09-02-24, 05:49
Vendelo posted a week ago (see below) that it was already open and there were 90+ girls on 5th floor.Interesting. So either the poster just confused Terminal 2 with Terminal 5. Or the Classic Marketing department is actively promoting a soft opening on September 4th for something that is already open. Guess I'll just check it out myself later.
BenderOver
09-02-24, 07:49
Coincidentally, on my recent trip (see my two FRs), I asked one of my girls about indo girls' feeling about age difference. The response I received was not good for old guys. Indo girls are different than Thai girls. Thais don't care about age nor age gap. I've dated Thai girls 40 years younger than me. Indo girls from what I learned, don't like big age gaps.I think like every situation, your mileage may vary. I'm pretty old and I don't get any issues from the under 20 crowd. I get that people look at me with the younger crowd and possibly think the H. A. risun Fyurd (spelling intentional) vibe. I get that I'm not everyone's flavor, but I haven't ever gotten flack for having salt pepper greys and mall dating of legal age.
BenderOver
09-02-24, 08:05
Vendelo posted a week ago (see below) that it was already open and there were 90+ girls on 5th floor.No, I was there a week ago and LT5 wasn't opened yet.
I wonder if maybe it was a confusion on what he's calling Terminal 2. You walk into the lobby, and you go up like 3 escalators to get to Terminal 2. I think lobby is G, then UG, then 1, then 2.
To get to 5, you can't take the escalators, it's elevators only. And the front counter ladies and security guys all told me that LT5 is closed and will open after the remodel is done.
Spa would be going down one level to LG I think. Which I did also check out. 400 for 90 min massage, 300 for HJ extra. I paid the full 700 just to try it out. Pretty decent massage on a really shitty massage bed. I'll describe the situation I thought was funny:
Funny Classic Spa Forum Review.
When I showed up at 1 PM there was no choosing any provider. One just got sent to me. She was a 7 in looks and built like a street walking line backer. I mean, think of athletic, but with broad shoulders, strong muscular legs, not fat, but big boned. I like indo girls very skinny, and my masseuse had to be at least 15 kg heavier in a blend of mostly muscle and fat to be considered skinny.
Walk into a room, maybe 10 ft by 10 ft. Shower enclosed by glass in the corner. Bed takes up literally the rest of the space, like 7 ft by 10 ft. WALL TO WALL. Imagine a faux leather massage table about 2 feet above the ground, surrounded by more similar tabletops also of the same faux leather, just completely making up the rest of any open space.
The masseuse tells me to lie down face down, and removes the pillow to reveal a "face hole" in the massage table. Now, in the dark, this oval shaped hole in a huge wall to wall bed just simply looks like a toilet from an ancient roman outhouse. The room is not well lit, and in the hole, which basically goes into the "under the table" area, is pitch black. I'm supposed to put my face into there? I do, and basically peer into darkness wondering if anyone turned on the light, I might have an Indiana jones moment with me staring at cockroaches or rats basically running all over the place. The light does go on during the massage and thankfully, it's just very clean floor tile underneath. Though I didn't much care for the smell in that face hole. It smelled like some older indo man who smoked a lot and had chronic bad breath was just there prior to me.
The massage was very decent, though 400 k for a 90 min massage is quite overpriced in Jakarta. The extra service was 300 k and didn't cost me any more money in regards to time extension. I chose to enjoy the edging which was quite good, and before I got to the point where I started to build up, I asked her to stop and thanked her. I really didn't want to shoot the moon during my Spa session and wanted to have some fun upstairs. I left the Spa after my session around 3 PM and went up to LT2, where I think my other post might have taken over as far as a review goes.
As a note, I did ask her about BBBJ and FS even though I didn't have any intention of trying to keep or use her as my session. Just curious what she would say. She said exactly what I guessed before hand based on most of the previous forum posts. Only massage and HJ.
BenderOver
09-02-24, 08:14
The report is funny.
If I understand correctly, he's reporting his cash withdraw from ATM experience but writing like punting experience.After about 7 pages regarding eVOA and ATM machines, I thought the board was losing interest in girls.
After spending July in PH and August in Jakarta, I've moved on to my next Asian point of conquest. I wanted to add some reports about my first Indo sexpedition in addition to the Classic post I already made on August 23: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2939441&viewfull=1#post2939441.
First off, I'm a Jakarta convert. Once I adjusted to the scene and took my time searching for the right one from night to night, I was damned impressed by the 20 yo offerings at the various clubs and spas. And even taking into account the more expensive clubs and extra tips, its still amounts to relatively little in dollar terms. My first Classic visit turned out to be the lowest quality of the entire month, and on one of the weeks I had 3 youngins over a 4-night span that were among the best ever in my book.
I shifted all my attention toward clubs and spas through the month and gave up on chasing online pussy after dozens of chicks disappeared when I insisted on video calls. Only 3 were willing to chat on video first and only 1 of those looked good but was a weirdo. This is much the same as in PH and TH. In my estimation, guys who dig texting have a knack for pulling online FLs and I aint 1 of them. But I broke the ice with lots of decent Indo civvies and will keep in touch for future benefits.
I haven't cracked the Classic nut yet. I understand its appeal to dudes because its big, accessible and cheap. But it's too crazy for me. I think having a bunch of different mamasans running their own dens and competing with each other in one big room under the same roof is fucked up. I much preferred places where multiple mamas help you pick from the same general set. I liked 1001 and EMP because they had calmer atmosphere and better chance of picking stunners (slim evening gowns and good stage lighting). Don't get me wrong, I love to party too, and for that I thought Royal was greasy good. It was the first time I recall having enjoyed fucking with music and partiers rocking just feet below me. But I aint giving up on Classic yet and will go back there to work on making it more fun next time too. The main challenge there is getting a knack for pulling out quality girls from the hordes of average ones who just look good at first glance in the dark but fail to impress in the downstairs rooms.
My top 10 on the August Jakarta charts is the following, ordered best to worst:
1. 1001 The Pool.
2. Royal (New Royal Bar).
3. Emporium.
4. Starmoon.
5. Classic Terminal and Spa.
6. Royal VIP.
7. Kings Cross.
8. Travel.
9. Hotel Mustika (massage).
10. Online apps Tdr / Wechat / Michat waste of time with catfish and princesses.
Every guy has their own tastes, so I aint sayin this should be the order for anyone else. Just that when guys do their RTFF through hundreds of pages and senior dudes bitching at them when they can't make heads or tails of the millions a bits of info, maybe it helps to see how other guys' tastes may align with or rub against your own as you plot out and prioritize your limited mongering time.
My individual reports from some (not all) August adventures coming in the next couple days. Revel on mates.
1001 Pool has gotten good reviews here and it got the gold medal for my visit. I went mid August on a weeknight around 8 pm. Going past the more expensive Colosseum club and into the hotel entrance beyond it, the security and reception staff is very professional. It's a bit of a maze getting up to The Pool up elevator and through corridors. (The reception / cashier desk noted that the minimum entrance fee was 200 k inclusive of 1 Corona beer, but I guess the fee gets waved if you take a girl and then you pay for the drink separately. The 1001 cost structure became confusing to me later between what ID read on ISG forum, what mamasan and reception told me, and what was listed on my final bill.).
On the way up, I accidently got in the elevator with the head mamasan, who was professionally dressed and good balance of proactive but not pushy. (Kind of wish I hadn't because I think she charged me higher for girls.) Once I stepped inside I knew it was exactly my style. Unlike the f'ing craziness of Classic, Travel, and other more budget friendly joints, it was more chill with music lite in the background, good ambience of darker guest area and well lit fishbowl. It was almost empty at 8 (got busier after 9) and I was the only 1 at the front tables facing around 50 stunning young fishbowl girls. They all dressed in slinky, tightly fitted black evening gowns so I could really get a good look at their figures.
Mamasan first escorted me to tables then fucked off when I told her I wanted time to myself to enjoy my drink and the view, but she repeated her name to me several times to make sure she got the call when I was ready to move. When I called mama back to discuss girl fees, she quoted me 1. 55 juta, which is higher than ISG reports from months back. I don't know if prices have gone up, or maybe she quotes higher because she's a lead mama, or she just took advantage of it being my first visit (and me being a horny green dumb shit).
When I pointed out to her that it should be 1. 2-1. 4, she then said it was 1. 2 for girl + 300 k + 50 k in some incomprehensible fees. (Foreign girls were quoted between 3-4 million, ridiculously expensive.) Stupidly, I was half focused on which girl I wanted and made an error in not politely but firmly pushing for details. The invoice from that night is equally mysterious because these places itemize things differently on paper than in person. I sure as hell couldn't tell and wasn't going to start pushing my first visit, so I went along for the ride with the knowledge I would try to clarify on ISG and prepare for billing the 2nd time around.
Fees aside, fuck the girls were steaming. I would put the 50 stage girls into 3 groups: 15 were extremely hot dreamgirls, 25 were very good and ID fuck any of them anyday, and another 10 had a few minor bulges and body / face blemishes but still acceptable in a horny stupor. They are not allowed to have mobile phones with them in the bowl which is a big plus for me, and I think this makes a big difference. They are more energetic (frequently getting up and coming back) and more focused. Really an amazing sight to see on one stage.
I also got a few looks at the foreign lineups that came out from nowhere a few times. They dress in their own fashions, mostly from Vietnam and noticeably tall. IMHO the foreign chicks were not as hot. They seemed fleshier and not really such beautiful faces when you see them up close. Back to the local girls, the big problem is narrowing it down to what you want with so many amazing distractions. One thing to note is how many of the local girls were slender but fucking busty, a couple couldn't even keep their cleavage in their gowns, their nipples kept popping out.
I'm a notorious tit squeezing boob maniac, but I wanted slender, sleek and beautiful that night. I had a working shortlist and when mama came back I ordered up Mali, a 20 yo, 155 cm, 42 kg girl from Sumatra. She came to Jakarta at the age of 16 to work a "normal job" in her words before joining the bar 6 months ago. She said an agency recruits girls for the bar. The Pool is open from 2 pm-1 am. Girls work 2-11 or 4-1 shifts, and she can work and take leave any days she wants. She's a really bright girl, picking up good English on her own and practicing with customers in Jakarta. She was a perfect spa companion: warm, professional, fun and friendly, sexy lite until she gets into bed then turns into adolescent tigress. We chatted on the couch around 20 minutes, and once she smiled and confirmed that she loved lots of DFK and DATY, off we went to the back and down.
You have to walk through the pool area before going to the very nice rooms downstairs. The pool is big and I enjoyed a swim and whirlpool later after the sex. It also has lots of empty cabanas at poolside and nobody was using them. I will take my girl to one of those for pre-pounding chat next time and highly recommend them. Mali also mentioned the private pool rooms available for extra fee "where you can do anything" but she said you can only get those if you take a threesome. She and I agreed that threesome is not for us, preferring 1 on 1 intimacy.
Fuck the next hour was your favorite JAV porn fantasy. Mali's face, makeup, hair, and honey-milky white body make her look Japanese. When the night gown dropped she had a fucking outrageous porn star body holding that lingerie in place. She was 9. 5 in my book from head to toes. Everything was right on skin, hair, face, shoulders, back, tits, ass, belly, pussy, arms, legs, hands, feet. She was an unbelievable shag and a perfect professional. The 1 hour was expertly utilized long BBBJs with tons of licking and ball sucking, DATY, 69, CFS (she wouldn't agree to BBFS but good thing I brought my own Magnum Bareskin, one of the few times I functioned normally with the dom) in many hot positions. It was PSE lite, but as she got more into it, she started rubbing her clit while I drilled her. I maintained myself unusually well and I finally blew at the 50 minute mark as I watched myself grabbing her thighs and pounding her lifted ass and arched belly in the mirror, with her nipples pointed slightly back and ankles dangling over my shoulders. And she really followed through with cordial service. I was still sweating when the 5 minute call came and she told me to take my time to catch my breath. No hurries at all and I tipped her graciously.
She went back to stage and I took a whirlpool and swim. Fucking nice as hell. After my swim, I was too love struck at the checkout cashier on my way out and made the mistake of not asking for detailed itemized rundown when the fee structure came up again. Looking at the final bill, it appears that the 200 k entrance fee was waived since I took a girl, and the Corona was then charged individually. But that obscure 350 k mentioned earlier by mama showed up as 300 k "RA Std 251" fee and 50 k "HTM The Pool fee". I paid 1. 9 juta in total. The bill showed 1. 2 juta for girl, 350 k unexplained fees, 250 k for 3 drinks, 100 k drink taxes.
Through August, I overpaid a few times, but only costing me an extra $30 or so in total, which I'll chalk up to experience. Would be good to hear from any of you recent 1001 veterans what the accurate current girl fee is. 1. 55 seems a bit high but in fact cheaper than top EMP girls and better quality / selection. But if it should be 1. 4 then be prepared to push when you go in. For me, 1001 still hits the mark for ST venues. In USD terms the $100+ I paid for 2. 5 hours with 1 goddess at 1001 was much better spent than the $95 for 3 hours for an unsatisfying threesome and food / drinks at Classic. Quality over quantity here. Ill do 1001 regularly alternating with other joints, but with longer recovery periods (2-3 days) between visits since I can't fuck 3 times everyday like the other randy a-holes on this forum.
At Jonny. INMO, seeking has gone down last 3 years I come to Jakarta. Is same girls, so after 1 week you will encounter everyone. All the hots are in Baii or Singapore. But at least expectations are clear. Tinder has a lot quanity, and they will find you. But you will probably spend a lot of time scan through fake profiles and fake photos. BATS / CJs full of 30-40 age washed out hags. That's not a good alternatives.
If I was in your shoes. I would try seeking (look for 33% promo code on googles) and if you have the local sim card, Tinder can be cheap. I usually pay 2. 5 M for seeking girls per sessun.
So it's my first time in Indonesia and wanted to get some advice; what are my best options. I am chatting to a number of girls on Seeking but wondered how they compared to tinder girls over there and to the girls at the clubs. I prefer the longer meets with dinner etc and Seeking has always been good for this (in Europe at least), but as I don't have loads of time I need tp prioritise and was wondering how the tinder girls and the girls at BATS / CJ might compare, and also, in terms of looks how do the club / spa girls at Emporium / Classic compare?
Banana Boi
09-02-24, 13:21
No, I was there a week ago and LT5 wasn't opened yet.
I wonder if maybe it was a confusion on what he's calling Terminal 2. You walk into the lobby, and you go up like 3 escalators to get to Terminal 2. I think lobby is G, then UG, then 1, then 2.
To get to 5, you can't take the escalators, it's elevators only. Only Vendelo can confirm this for us. When I originally read his post I was shocked to read there were 90+ girls at 3 pm on Level 5. I rarely go to Level 5 and haven't been since maybe 2017 or 2018 so never questioned the post.
TropicanGeorge
09-02-24, 15:21
1001 Pool has gotten good reviews here and it got the gold medal for my visit. I went mid August on a weeknight around 8 pm. Going past the more expensive Colosseum club and into the hotel entrance beyond it, the security and reception staff is very professional. It's a bit of a maze getting up to The Pool up elevator and through corridors. (The reception / cashier desk noted that the minimum entrance fee was 200 k inclusive of 1 Corona beer, but I guess the fee gets waved if you take a girl and then you pay for the drink separately. The 1001 cost structure became confusing to me later between what ID read on ISG forum, what mamasan and reception told me, and what was listed on my final bill.).
On the way up, I accidently got in the elevator with the head mamasan, who was professionally dressed and good balance of proactive but not pushy. (Kind of wish I hadn't because I think she charged me higher for girls.) Once I stepped inside I knew it was exactly my style. Unlike the f'ing craziness of Classic, Travel, and other more budget friendly joints, it was more chill with music lite in the background, good ambience of darker guest area and well lit fishbowl. It was almost empty at 8 (got busier after 9) and I was the only 1 at the front tables facing around 50 stunning young fishbowl girls. They all dressed in slinky, tightly fitted black evening gowns so I could really get a good look at their figures.
Mamasan first escorted me to tables then fucked off when I told her I wanted time to myself to enjoy my drink and the view, but she repeated her name to me several times to make sure she got the call when I was ready to move. When I called mama back to discuss girl fees, she quoted me 1. 55 juta, which is higher than ISG reports from months back. I don't know if prices have gone up, or maybe she quotes higher because she's a lead mama, or she just took advantage of it being my first visit (and me being a horny green dumb shit)..Great report, I'm looking forward to reading the rest of them!
During the month did you hit up Malio or was it not worth it?
Incrociatore
09-02-24, 23:09
Prices are insane, even compared to Thailand. 1. 5, 2, 3 millions IDR? That is crazy! I don't know if you guys are totally incompetent or if you are so ugly that you need to pay so much to get laid. Indonesia is cheap, and yet you pay prices that are absurd. You must be all dumb, with all due respect.
WestCoast1
09-03-24, 01:25
Through August, I overpaid a few times, but only costing me an extra $30 or so in total, which I'll chalk up to experience. Would be good to hear from any of you recent 1001 veterans what the accurate current girl fee is. 1. 55 seems a bit high but in fact cheaper than top EMP girls and better quality / selection. But if it should be 1. 4 then be prepared to push when you go in. For me, 1001 still hits the mark for ST venues. In USD terms the $100+ I paid for 2. 5 hours with 1 goddess at 1001 was much better spent than the $95 for 3 hours for an unsatisfying threesome and food / drinks at Classic. Quality over quantity here. Ill do 1001 regularly alternating with other joints, but with longer recovery periods (2-3 days) between visits since I can't fuck 3 times everyday like the other randy a-holes on this forum.Volt, great reports. Its been a decade since I was in Indo. So many fond memories. A few throwback pics for the gents.
My top 10 on the August Jakarta charts is the following, ordered best to worst:
1. 1001 The Pool.
2. Royal (New Royal Bar).
3. Emporium.
4. Starmoon.
5. Classic Terminal and Spa.
6. Royal VIP.
7. Kings Cross.
8. Travel.
9. Hotel Mustika (massage).
10. Online apps Tdr / Wechat / Michat waste of time with catfish and princesses.
Every guy has their own tastes, so I aint sayin this should be the order for anyone else. Just that when guys do their RTFF through hundreds of pages and senior dudes bitching at them when they can't make heads or tails of the millions a bits of info, maybe it helps to see how other guys' tastes may align with or rub against your own as you plot out and prioritize your limited mongering time.
My individual reports from some (not all) August adventures coming in the next couple days. Revel on mates.Great reports bro, I'm definitely a Jakarta convert too.
On the tinder / civvie game I find that video call probably is unnecessary, I normally call a girl out to a nice coffee shop near my place. If she is a catfish, no damage done & I tell her I have to go back to my hotel urgently to wash my hair or sth. Conversely if a girl asks me for a video call I would probably reject them as well because it's just a bit heavy before first meeting.
My favourite was Classic, I wouldn't worry too much about the MMS. I just sit there and chill & they don't bother me too much.
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