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Today I visited 2 places viz; Emporium and KI Royal:
1. Emporium:
Received David's number from one of the forum members through pm along with his reference, I messaged David accordingly and reached the place, met one mamasan in the lift itself while going up to the 1st floor, while getting out of the lift she started explaining the whole proposition, while I got my wristband and mobile phone sealed in a packet, I initially thought this is a water proofing solution (having the pool activity in mind), but it dawned upon me while exiting that this is a anti-camera / picture taking precaution (I liked it). While this mama was accompanying me while I was figuring out what's next, I saw a man sitting on the couch next to reception, gauging by his attire etc, I just asked if he was David, we exchanged pleasantries and the mama with me was pissed, David shrugged her off with smiles and humouring her off. We went to the seating area, he showed me the girls and prices (the known 1. 2 and 1. 4 M), the selection of ladies as mentioned by others is very limited, and ofc not everyone in the line-up is gold and diamond (if you know what I mean), I had a hard time choosing one, because nothing really struck my eye as oh yeah! She is the one, also the girls are in their own zone, I didn't notice anyone making eye contact or a smiling gesture when pointed at or being chosen by customer, anyways I called one up that looked like one of the prettier options (slim, young (she was actually 25 which I asked during latter conv.)), David recommended me someone, he said she is more obedient etc, but I am not a very demanding customer, only assurance I need is of a DFK (which is a must have for me to get in the act) and also the girl needs to meet my fancy of beauty (height, weight, service level take a backseat for me in comparison) so I chose the first girl that I had called (Gia or DIA something), she spoke little english so that was a plus, while she went on to get her package, I had a little chit chat with David and asked for the drinks menu etc, drinks are reasonably priced (ofc higher than other places, but still ok) e. G. A Pint of Bintang was 65 k and Bintang Raddler Lemon was 75 k followed by Heineken being slightly higher, but choices were limited for beers. Once the girl came back after 10 odd minutes we went on for the ride, first to the changing locker, got the right size of shorts. As mentioned by others the infrastructure of the place is top notch, in the locker room, you have everything from shaving kits to perfumes, hair lotions, whatever you could think of, its there. The locker locks and opens by scanning the wrist band which was a good security feature and I felt safe as I am cash only guy and also had my phone and everything stashed in the locker. After changing we went to the pool, which is a hot water pool (so takes a little getting used to), one improvement that they could do is introduce some form of stairs to the pool, as I found it very risky to get in the pool, you need to land directly on the seating area with one leg which is about 2 feet deep in the water, and god forbid if you slip you are in for a severe injury and with my swimming pool experiences till date it is not that much of a stretch. Good thing is they have hot and cold water pools separated within the pool itself (main pool is hot water and then there are small jacuzzi style mini pools with different temp. Water. Anyways once I got in the pool, seated she sat one level higher so she could massage my shoulders (namesake massage, felt like a ritual more than anything else), but combined with the hot pool it was relaxing enough, after some time she came down and sat on my lap, we kissed for few seconds, but she disengaged immed. (saying we do this in room), there guys around ofc since it was evening, but she grinded on johnny for a while and looking at her body up and close got Johnny boy excited (her skin was flawless), she was complaining of being cold throughout the experience got me worried whether she is under the weather / sick or something but she was just feeling cold apparently, once out of the pool, I saw the sauna and steam rooms, and also read the instructions outside, I like to take a steam bath whenever it is available at a massage place, sat in the steam room for 10 odd minutes (felt like I was sweating through all my pores), then as per instructions I went in the cold pool (one with blue lights), to my surprise it was actually ice cold water, so it was more like taking a ice bath afer the steam, but I liked the experience (sat for about 5 minutes in it, dipped my face in the water just for the fun of it), she seemed surprised that I was not feeling cold. I noticed she was being passively distant from the get go (which is usually a sign of a not so good performance later), so I tried my best to cheer her up, bought 2 Bintang Raddler Lemon beers for both of us, and later on got a surprise that she doesn't drink LOL. Went to the showers, where a dry short was equipped on each door (again I liked how well thought out the entire infrastructure and experience is), post shower moved to the room, I couldn't carry my Durex so had to make do the with the Vivo condoms that they have, BTW the room was also very good and clean, equipped with mouthwash for both and everything else that you would need (David tried to pitch a better room at 200 k also, if anyone likes that).
Now on to the act, once in our birthday suits, I noticed that she has a fantastic body, she allowed some kissing but as expected from earlier signs she was distant and avoided getting too much into the act, she was just eager to play with my Johnny and ready to put it in by getting into position (We all know what that means, get in and get out quick) but I am not one to give up so easily, I laid her down, kissed some more, her lipstick smeared of a little on top of her upper lips (a pretty sight), but she didn't open her mouth enough for the DFK, instead kept playing with my lower lips (girls do this to avoid the full DFK experience), anyways I am not one to force my agenda in this regard, so moved on, once I started kissing her neck her body started reacting even if she didn't want to, once I got to her boobs, that is when the fun started, and she started moaning and twitching frantically, my initial thought given the experience so far was that it was probably fake but oh what a joy it was to be wrong about this (hmm! Why? you ask, keep reading!!). Once I was done with her boobs for the time, I went downwards as I liked her body I performed DATY she really started to shake by that time, I also slipped one finger in while my mouth was at work (I was very slow and careful not to hurt her with my fingernails as she was moving uncontrollably), kept one hand on her belly to keep her lower half grounded, I wanted to see her facial expressions so I got up, and loving the sight of her beautiful facial expressions and movement, I slipped another finger in (first time I did this again mostly because of the caution of girl getting hurt by fingernails although they are trimmed I usually only go with 1 finger) but she was wet down there so it was no problem getting 2 fingers in, watching her reactions, I increased the intensity of my strokes after some time almost to a machine like speed and then to my surprise. Pause for effect. Ding, ding, ding. Something wet started coming out of her pussy, I have never experienced it with any of my mongering excursions till date but I had an inkling that she has started squirting and man oh! Man was I right or what, it was like straight out of a porno, she started squirting hard all over my hand and as high as my shoulder (glad I had my face out of the way by now) it was a visible stream after stream spectacle, my entire hand was wet, I was just enjoying the sight while my hand was still at work with the same intensity, she squirted hard 3 times back to back after few seconds intervals. The entire bed was wet and she was a little embarrassed later, but I assured her it was all good, after noticing that she was exhausted, my hand train slowly came to a halt, and as if she was waking from sleep she came to me saying your turn now, rolled on the Vivo condom (I am durex guy, as I have had condom break experiences previously but since my stuff was in the locker, I had no choice here. But I have seen this vivo brand across all establishments in Jakarta so far so its probably popular locally), did CBJ in 2-3 positions, did her in missy (her reactions were ecstatic), I could have finished in missy but decided to vary it to doggy, after another 10 minutes of heavenly pleasures I released in doggy (one thing I noticed in this and my prev. Classic experiences, releasing in doggy feels a bit constricted because of the girls small frame, and it hurt a bit both times while releasing like the nerves were getting jammed while releasing or something). After we got up, she noticed the mess she made of the bed, and she was all giggly and cuddly after the act, we showered together, I finished another bottle of beer that she didn't have dressed up back in the kimono and left the room. She accompanied me till the changing room, I tipped her the mandatory 200 k. Went to the billing counter, got my phone out of the pouch, they apparently added 50 k cover charge+taxes to an already high amount of a bill which was a little prickly. Total damages towards the end was 1. 8 M including the 150 k for 2 beers.
All in all the facilities are top notch 10/10, the girls quantity and quality could use a boost (avg. 6. 5/10), although the girl I picked would be a 8/10.
2. KI: Royal:
Thought I would give second innings a try since I had a day's break yesterday, I went to KI at 12 am, was in no mood to waste time, place was packed with no free seats or couches in sight, strange enough for a weekday if they say that the crowd is all local (I would assume a local crowd has to work the next day). Was accompanied by a mama and finally settled at a bar stool at the bar, I got drink, told mama give me some time to drink first, said ok ok, but came back after 5 minutes, I saw lot of SEA crowd just spending time with the girls in the bar itself rather than taking them to rooms some in large groups and some solo as well, maybe this is why mamas are excited to see foreigners, since Bahasa isn't our forte, we tend to skip to business directly and maybe this is a quicker business for them. Anyways picked a girl from second line-up shown (Chi-chi), I actually came to find the girl that I missed out couple of days back, but neither the mama nor the girl was anywhere to be found, and it was like a zoo in there with so many girls, you may never find the same girl again unless connected on whatsapp or numbers exchanged. The girl I picked on this day was tall and a (6. 5-7/10), since this was my second wind, I wasn't too picky, we had a quick chat, smoked 1 cig each, got her a beer, confirmed on my requirements (her reactions weren't giving me the vibe that I wanted), but just went with the flow. Called mama after some time, and went upstairs (the stairs here were very tall to climb (like each stair was 1+foot high), room was ok with curtain separated shower, door had a glass window which we had to cover up with our clothes. This girl also spoke some english, so points were easier to get through than others, her body was smoking hot and on the fairer side, bigger everything compared to the small frame girls I had till now, but not on the bustier side (I don't like too big). As expected she was a little cold at the beginning and did lot of nakhras (Hindi word for 'no this, no that' very little kissing and wanted me to get straight to business, but I ask her to lay down, kissed for a bit and then sucked her ample but shapely boobs to my heart's content, she started gasping at this point, then moved on to CBJ which she did for very little time and went to throw up multiple times, excuse given was it is too big, as mentioned before I didn't care too much for this encounter to be perfect, so said fine, took her from behind while she leaned on the bed, I was standing up, her one leg was on the floor and one on bed (hope that makes sense), this is more like how 'PublicAgent' does in his videos, learning from my previous encounters this time I went for doggy / this position first, I started getting the reactions that I wanted once I was inside her, while working this semi-doggy positions she didn't leave a single english swear word behind (fuck-fuck-fuck-oooo-oh God, etc. Etc.), I asked her if I can hold her hair while doing it, got an affirmation from her and, took her for a ride while holding her hair (noticed that that these girls use extensions as I could see the clips while I was holding her hairs), this went on for 15 minutes, while I slapped her milky white butt, got some visible finger marks on, switched to missy by this time, I started sweating like crazy and realized that the ac in the room doesn't work, my sweat started dripping on her face (these girls are very conscious about their make-ups, so she turned her head aside, but was still moaning hard, I decided to end it, comfortably unloaded in missy. Showered together, tipped her a 50 k and got out of the place sweating and tired (the weather outside was also pretty hot and humid, unlike other days so far). This is where going out at night is also helpful, there is virtually no traffic, if you don't wear helmet on Gojek bike, you can feel the wind caress your face.
Total damages: 400k (girl)+50k tip, 2 beers (90k)+some taxes=5052000.
BTW while coming back on a Gojek bike, I noticed intermittent big groups of young guys spread across 1-2 km stretch on footpaths on the Khusus expressway / highway, some drinking on the street, then there were some agent / broker kind of people in-between, some guys with jackets and bikes, It was a little intimidating and I was curious since I move around in late hours. I asked my Gojek driver and confirmed my suspicion that they were illegal bike racers, that is better ofc than thugs.
Overall a day of highs and lows but all good in the hood.
I'm writing this after the fact as I couldn't get this forum to load whatever VPN I used.
After a brutal early flight I had many hours to kill then finally checked into Classic. The rooms are basic with no kettle, a fridge / safe that didn't work. The first room had a noisy aircon so I had to change. The design isn't modern so don't expect to find any sockets near the bed.
I went to the 2nd floor at 4. 30 or so and or was pretty quiet. Estimate around 50 girls, quite an aggressive MMS approach me and proceeded to introduce me to every single girl in her harem. Except there was only 7 of them who bothered to show up so early. It was quite funny as she introduced me to a blonde one with perky boobs not once, twice but Four times. The MMS name is Anna, as you're looking at the bar this would be like a 5 pm to locate where her sofa is at, so next to the entrance.
I decided to move around & spotted a sofa with almost 20 ladies then found MMS DIA who intro me to Muti, she looks Chinese had perky boobs & fairly decent legs. Quite pale, I prefer tanned but she just had a healthy look about her. Her English wasn't bad & she had a best friend who was taller & more Indonesian look but she was shy and her body language suggested starfish so I kept Muti & got rid of the other one. I then saw this very curvy tanned girl in white dress and I just thought I'm going to go with the booty. Spoke to her and she's 18, Bingo off we go.
Not sure if Muti was a bit peeved I didn't go with her friend but she seemed to be quite keen to get on with it in the room. She's experienced sure which was the opposite of Natalie the tanned girl. Let's say she almost tried to give me a HJ to get me hard, her BJ was average and she tried to get on top when I wasn't fully hard. Fair enough I was a bit tired for the 2nd round but even if this wasn't the case when I saw she had a bit of baby fat round her tummy and clothes off seemed chubby. Not only that but after 2nd time of trying to get on when I was almost hard enough there was a small blood stain on the bed behind her, she said her period was over but a bit more of a turn off and I just ended the session. Muti asked me for a tip but I just said overall the session wasn't great for me, and I wasn't leaving a tip and walked out.
Went to the showers, where a dry short was equipped on each door (again I liked how well thought out the entire infrastructure and experience is), post shower moved to the room, I couldn't carry my Durex so had to make do the with the Vivo condoms that they have, Another good report. Next time, just unlock your locker after your shower to get your stuff. I take out my phone, and sometimes K-Y (in case of anal), and bring it with me to the room.
Another good report. Next time, just unlock your locker after your shower to get your stuff. I take out my phone, and sometimes K-Y (in case of anal), and bring it with me to the room.That is a useful tip, thank you!.
Nothing much to report as I repeated at Emporium with yesterday's girl.
I tried getting cash from a CIM Niaga ATM in the underground floor at Plaza Indonesia. After I changed the amount 1500000 to 3000000 the machine displayed "processing your transaction". I waited for what felt like ages, no money came. Eventually the machine asked "do you need more time? I chose "no" and got my card back. Luckily I now see no charge or pre-authorisation in my banking app, so at least I didn't lose any money. This incident incentivates me even more to patronise places where I don't need to pay cash.
Along the way I had a long chat with a taxi driver about girls. He recommended 2 venues:
Fashion Hotel.
Maxwell Hotel.
Join the club. My sex-drive falls off a cliff as from early evening. That's why Jakarta might be just the ticket for me IF it is still like in the old days. I remember hitting kota indah (Sari Ayu) after lunch, around 3 pm. Likewise venues around Lokasari Plaza like Bintan Mawar and the infamous "Garage" (all defunct now I think).
I did have sex late, indeed overnight in Jakarta, but that was while ravin' & rollin'. I don't want to go down that road again though, too dangerous.
Paradise for me would be for venues to be in full swing right after breakfast, when I feel horny as a rat.Didn't you used to do around 6 ectasy per night at Stadium?
Do you know a girl named Elga?
This day was disappointing on all counts, but that is the cost of exploration beyond limiting oneself to conventional and known good options, so no sweat.
1. Malio Club: Getting here is tricky as you need to use a lift of adjacent building to get to this one. However it is best to put it in the avoid list if you are a VFM (Value for money oriented customer) This was a pure rip-off place, from waiters to the chicks that flock you, it all just felt like an elaborate scam. First of they handed me a number with a rubber wrist band (this is similar to Classic SOP), once I went in I chose a seat of my choice, then 1 chick came to me upfront explained me all the charges etc. (btw she was wearing a fishnet lingerie (comparable to a girls swimming costume), her nips etc were popping out of it and most of the ladies were scantily dressed in a similar fashion (see through lingerie, etc)) I was just trying to absorb the info. That she was giving and compare it with what I already knew about the place (thanks to this forum). She then called 4-5 other girls who also greeted me, I anyways chose her (thought since she is giving all info. In a detailed manner she may be honest in her approach) but alas that wasn't the case, she started with minimum 3 shots, which they guzzle down like water, in that she grinded me with clothes on (sort of a dry hump), promised me that for 5 shots she will kiss, provide service, let me play with the melons, but after 3 shots, started asking for 2 more (saying 5 are minimum for service), She just allowed me to touch one boob and never kissed. I could see where this was heading but in a pursuit to understand the working mechanism of the place I allowed it, and as expected she guzzled down those also and then got off my lap and started pitching me taking upstairs 3. 8 M for FS and 1. 8 for BJ, saying I am a dancer blah blah, she also called the waiter for 2 more shots and I just put my foot down then, said the waitress to stop. BTW when you ask the waiter for 2, they also try to upsell 3-4, the place was creeping me up. What was more is there was no attempt of justifying the cost of 5 shots (5*66 k) by means of service or anything. I just said to myself this is enough, the moment I said no to more shots, she got up and scurried away. I understood the modus operandi over here, and decided it was enough for me. I saw some good looking Russian / Ukranian / CIS chicks gathered at a table, one of them looked really pretty, while heading out I asked for prices what I got was Gold: 1. 2 M, Platinum: 1. 8 M and Foreigner: 3 M+something, but given the overall attitude of the place, I won't venture to try anything here. Besides I had about 10 encounters with CIS chicks while being in Prague last year at half the price and 0 attitude as well. Now comes the billing counter. For 1 single can of beer and 5 of those 66 k each ridiculous shots it cost me 556000, Drinks Cost+entrance 15 k+40% something tax + some other tax bullshit. If anyone was to ask me I would say stay away from this place like running away from plague or something. It is a place built for robbing you off of your money.
Malioboro / Malio Club.
Malioboro is a great place to go with buddies or business acquaintances. You can actually sit at some nice tables and have a good chat in between oogling the dancers. You definitely have to avoid their ridiculous scams with multiple shots. The girls there aren't cheap, but normally have less wear on them than the cheaper ones in other venues. In that one side room, they are fairly cheap. I think it was 700 k last time I was there, while the indo girls in the main room were 1 to 1. 5 juta. But I normally hang out in the main room because that side room bores me. They used to have sexy dancers down in the spa area too who would get in the pool with you and jerk you off. The problem with that is the pool filled up with a bunch of guy's cum. So I avoided it. LOL.
I think the girls on the Malio club side are often prettier, but it's damn loud in there.
I find this place less smokey than the cheaper places, so that's a huge plus.
Another good report. Next time, just unlock your locker after your shower to get your stuff. I take out my phone, and sometimes K-Y (in case of anal), and bring it with me to the room.How often do these brothel girls allow anal? I'm guessing the number is close to zero.
Free lancers, yes. But not the brothel girls.
Anyone visited deep spa recently? The place seems really good, and as I'm not really much into FS, seems like the best place for me. Do they do BBJ?
Nothing much to report as I repeated at Emporium with yesterday's girl.
I tried getting cash from a CIM Niaga ATM in the underground floor at Plaza Indonesia. After I changed the amount 1500000 to 3000000 the machine displayed "processing your transaction". I waited for what felt like ages, no money came. Eventually the machine asked "do you need more time? I chose "no" and got my card back. Luckily I now see no charge or pre-authorisation in my banking app, so at least I didn't lose any money. This incident incentivates me even more to patronise places where I don't need to pay cash.
Along the way I had a long chat with a taxi driver about girls. He recommended 2 venues:
Fashion Hotel.
Maxwell Hotel.I got recommended fashion hotel by a Chinese customer inside classic T2 he said it was better than classic. There is Bfashion not to be confused. I didn't get a chance to try them. Maybe you can give it a try.
Oh yes, I remember having a great session with DIA in Emporium. I also got her WA number and called her to my hotel net day. It was great session in hotel also.
She has smooth skin and squirts a lot. One of my favorite from Emporium.
Today I visited 2 places viz; Emporium and KI Royal:
1. Emporium:
.. first girl that I had called (Gia or DIA something), she spoke little english so that was a plus, while she went on to get her package, I had a little chit chat with David and asked for the drinks menu etc, drinks are reasonably priced (ofc higher than other places, but still ok) e. ...
How often do these brothel girls allow anal? I'm guessing the number is close to zero.
Free lancers, yes. But not the brothel girls.I went to Emporivum only once when I was in Jakarta for a week last month, and that girl did let me attempt anal, but I was too tired / too old / needed longer to reload, so suffered from limp dick syndrome before I could fully enter.
At Classic I did it with one other girl that same week, but I only tried to convince that one girl to let me try too, so not sure how many else would be open for it. I think at least one other girl would if I had pushed for it.
You mean MiChat or WeChat?Michat. Wechat is not reliable. Most time are used to scam chinese tourists in SEA.
Today I visited 2 places viz; Emporium and KI Royal:
1. Emporium:
Received David's number from one of the forum members through pm along with his reference, I messaged David accordingly and reached the place, met one mamasan in the lift itself while going up to the 1st floor, while getting out of the lift she started explaining the whole proposition, while I got my wristband and mobile phone sealed in a packet, I initially thought this is a water proofing solution (having the pool activity in mind), but it dawned upon me while exiting that this is a anti-camera / picture taking precaution (I liked it). While this mama was accompanying me while I was figuring out what's next, I saw a man sitting on the couch next to reception, gauging by his attire etc, I just asked if he was David, we exchanged pleasantries and the mama with me was pissed, David shrugged her off with smiles and humouring her off. We went to the seating area, he showed me the girls and prices (the known 1. 2 and 1. 4 M), the selection of ladies as mentioned by others is very limited, and ofc not everyone in the line-up is gold and diamond (if you know what I mean), I had a hard time choosing one, because nothing really struck my eye as oh yeah! She is the one, also the girls are in their own zone, I didn't notice anyone making eye contact or a smiling gesture when pointed at or being chosen by customer, anyways I called one up that looked like one of the prettier options (slim, young (she was actually 25 which I asked during latter conv.)).I like the facilty in Empo. But every time I went there, limited selection. 10-20 max. Compared to see / T / KI over 100.
Malioboro / Malio Club.
Malioboro is a great place to go with buddies or business acquaintances. You can actually sit at some nice tables and have a good chat in between oogling the dancers. You definitely have to avoid their ridiculous scams with multiple shots. The girls there aren't cheap, but normally have less wear on them than the cheaper ones in other venues. In that one side room, they are fairly cheap. I think it was 700 k last time I was there, while the indo girls in the main room were 1 to 1. 5 juta. But I normally hang out in the main room because that side room bores me. They used to have sexy dancers down in the spa area too who would get in the pool with you and jerk you off. The problem with that is the pool filled up with a bunch of guy's cum. So I avoided it. LOL.
I think the girls on the Malio club side are often prettier, but it's damn loud in there.
I find this place less smokey than the cheaper places, so that's a huge plus.Hi Smoothy,
Just wondering if you are aware of any good and reasonably priced places where I can find CIS chicks (Good looking Russian, Uzbek, Ukranian, etc.). I have been at the typical venues+some exploration, mild boredom is setting in and I still have week to go, so could shake things up a little. I don't mind spending slightly higher (as a one time exception) but at the same time don't want to waste my money, Malio seemed like a place that I could not trust (but as mentioned before, one of the CIS chick who was already with a customer did catch my eye), else I would have considered it. I have read about 1001 also having such options but it seems even more expensive than other places and doesn't exactly have that many reviews and ones that are there aren't glowing ones. Please let me know if you know of any other places that would have this offering, I like to explore, I will check it out, if it fits my bill great, if not I don't mind walking out just as easily also.
BTW I have copied the entire list of venues that you had once shared on this forum, let me know if any of them still active and good to try out (other than obv. ones like Classic, Emporium, Malio etc.)
As names mentioned by some members, I did lookup fashion hotel mentioned in some threads, so decided to check it out before I went to Classic, review below:
1. Fashion Hotel:
It is the big building with the blinking lights that you see when you pass on the Khusus expressway, but the entrance is from a secluded interior lane. Hotel is as big as any of the other entertainment, once you get on to the lift you will see the entertainment options inside the lift, I. E. Different options on different floors all under the Fashion brand ofc, there is a Spa on the 6th floor, Karaoke club on the 9th floor and Club on the 10th Floor. I first went to the club, the set up inside is similar to Malio's but instead of strippers there was a live band singing, girls in sexy dresses were moving around enough to drop a hint, one mama escorted me to the table, I asked everything upfront (if it didn't fit my bill I was ready to walk away without wasting time and money), there was a cover charge of 70 k, beers were priced as following big bottle of Guiness=95 k (reasonable and same as other places), since she didn't say anything about the ladies, I hahod to bring it up despite it being slightly awkward, we were using translate to communicate, she said 1. 3 m for girl just to sit and accompany you (I hope something was lost in translation here, but it is what she said). I walked out as this day I had budgeted not to spend more than 1 m, but maybe someone else who has been here can shed some light on the offerings provided by this place.
While in the lift, I decided to check out the spa section on 6th floor also, once in mama showed me options, 4-5 bored looking girls, one of them was asleep it wasn't an exciting sight, mama said come back during daytime, I just nodded, but noted the prices for information it was starting from 700 k Gold and there was something about Platinum for 900 k all the girls seated were platinum (but honestly nothing exciting). Decided to head to Classic as planned.
2. Classic T5:
First of all it is not at all obvious how to get to T5, I was roaming lost for few minutes, but then asked the gatekeeper to show me how to go to T5, I found multiple people (mostly watchmen / bouncers of T2 and T5) asking me why go to T5, T2 has so many girls etc, etc, my guess is that it is segmented for an internal or exclusive audience of some sort (maybe locals only or something else), anyways got my wristband, went in, here the only options available are the one on the couches, there was a live performance on center stage, the choices on T5 were very limited and were nothing to be excited about. I noticed a tiny girl in one of the corners and checked her out several times before making my decision, meanwhile had a beer and called her up finally, she was one on the younger side, said her age was 18, she was giggly and cuddly from the get go, kept caressing my leg while drinking, I ordered a non-alcoholic drink for her upon her request (one thing I like about Classic is that they don't try to rip you off, like the drink ordered by the girl was also only 27 k, although surprisingly my pint of Bintang Raddler Lemon cost 90 k but its ok), unlike T2, everything required my signature and no cash was paid upfront, entire billing was done at the end (which made me a little cautious for any surprises later).
Into the room and onto the girl, not much to say here honestly, she was sweet and giggly throughout the session, her boobs were little too saggy for an 18 year old, but her face was so cute that it didn't derail my motivation. She was amateur at everything, like I had to tell her how to put the condom on, take it out myself, BJ just like 10% of my tool etc. I had to guide her for everything. It was an average session. But I tipped her 100 k anyways as she was cheerful throughout the session.
While exiting, I had to ask for directions as the lift immediate next to the token counter was not available, one of the bouncers accompanied me and learning that I speak only english he exchanged some chit chat and then asked by action whether I came in for boom boom here, I didn't dignify that with a response and instead waited for the lift to arrive, he still asked for tip, I said next time and left. Although I have read multiple reports here on T5 from multiple members, I got a feeling that it is a place meant for certain audience only.
Thanks for checking Fashion Hotel. What time did you go?
Since when do indo girls not know how to fuck? That's not how I remember them from 20 years ago!
Had a session at Sari Ayu, then another one at Royal. I had to wade through water from Sari to Royal because of torrential rain.
Both girls were young, around 19-20, 400k each. Neither knew what 69 was, had to show them on my phone (luckily they don't seal your phone in plastic here). Neither could do doggystyle. The first one was ok trying doggystyle but kept her back convex upwards, in what I call dog's style (as opposed to doggystyle). What a turn off. The second girl didn't want to do doggystyle at all at first, and I didn't get much further by insisting as she also couldn't curve properly either. What kind of johns get what they want in this kind of joint? The only ones I can think of are men who just want to bareback young and inexperienced girls. Not my cup of tea. I need some kind of pornstar experience.
So it was back to Emporium where I sessioned the same girl as I had yesterday and before yesterday. Since I was there later than on my visits hitherto, I was able to see the full Emporium line-up. It didn't at all impress me. I didn't see any other tallish girl that caught my fancy, except the two I tried out already.
So far my good sessions in Jakarta have been with 1.5 juta girls, no luck with 400k girls. Given the underwhelming line-up I saw today at Emporium, I may give Malio or 1001 a try tomorrow.
Thanks for checking Fashion Hotel. What time did you go?I went around 11.30 pm, had planned to check out Maxwell hotel also today since it is not that far but I am going to rest up today, feeling a bit tired, will check and report back tomorrow.
BTW I contacted Collosseum /1001 via Whatsapp, couldn't get a lot of info. But they told me to check out the 3rd floor which is the spa, will check that out tomorrow too, it is a little far from my hotel but lets see. Maybe I will start a little early, hopefully traffic will be less on weekends. Anybody who has already been to 1001 and has a good know-how of the place, please share the price structure, what to expect once inside, I got one online site which says minimum spend is 1. 7 m (https://nightlifeasia.wiki/Jakarta), money is one thing, another thing is what services / length of time they are available for etc. I can obv. go in blind see what's what but it is a long trip and since I pay only in cash, guidance beforehand will help me go in prepared.
A few days ago I went to 1001. It was after a late afternoon session in Kota Indah. Current price is 1,6 Mio for the local girls. If you don't take a girl, the entrance fee is 200 k. There were almost 100 of them and I was quite impressed. I would rate most of them between 7 and 8.
I was tired and had no intention of taking a girl. I just wanted to get to know the place. I decided just to have a late lunch / early dinner there. I never asked for a "contest" (that's how they call it in Jakarta when they present a group of girls at your table). But my table was close to the fishbowl, and the girls had to pass by when they went to contests at other clients' sofas / tables. I've spent about one hour there, and during the entire time no more than 4 girls were picked by clients. These girls apparently don't get a lot of clients, which might give the clients a better chance of a decent service than what you get from the high volume girls at KI or Classic. Together with the nice ambience this might justify the higher price.
Hi, long time lurker here.
I don't know how people in Classic seem to have mostly good experiences (by reading this forum).
I have been in Classic more than 10 times in the last year, and most of my experiences have been varying levels of bad.
Overall I think I had 2 great experience in Classic, 1-2 ok ones, and about 7-8 bad ones.
The problem is that it is always something different bad next time, so its hard to know what to anticipate.
Some girls would have bad attitude in the room or just be a dead fish, some don't speak any English and then communication in the room becomes super awkward (and usually leads to bad experience), some girls would not want to kiss (which is important for me) despite promising otherwise, some kiss but super weirdly, like opening mouth really wide like a fish, etc.
For example one time in the room one girl in missionary during sex literally locked her arm around my neck using force and would not let me go (which was extremely off-putting). When I finally used a lot of force to pull away and was like WTF? Turned out she had some weird meat lump around her knee area that she didn't want me to see (ironically forcing me down was a lot more off putting than that thing on her knee).
Or the other time I tried a threesome with an ok girl from previous day and her friend which she recommended and I didn't screen properly (big mistake), which turned out to be absolute worst with 2 girls talking loudly with each other the whole time, insisting on swapping condoms in between, and in general very unsexy behavior in the room.
Or just having an attitude in some way, don't do this, don't want to do that, have you finished, etc.
Just today for example I selected a pretty looking girl named Emily which seemed to have a nice attitude, but just was not willing to kiss outside, saying she would kiss in the room.
Yeah right. In the room she was avoiding my face like a plague. But the worst part is that she had some of the most disgusting baby damage I've ever seen. Literally skin on the bottom part of her torso was super wrinkled like an old grandma, and the boobs were the same.
It was almost like a grandma's body with a young face. It was super weird and disgusting. Maybe I just didn't see much baby damage before, I don't know.
At the time though she still had a nice attitude throughout which helped to go along with the deed and finish, but oh my god, in retrospect I wish I could unsee that.
When I read this forum I always wonder how is it that most people seem to have amazing (or at least good) experience in Classic, but I always seem to stumble on bad ones?
Also considering that Classic setup with loud music where you cannot talk, dark lights and lots of smoking already makes it quite an unpleasant experience to begin with.
The value for money and the sheer amount of choice is what keeps me coming back again and again hoping against all odds that it will be good this time (it should be, right? So many girls to choose from), but somehow I mostly end up unsatisfied or unhappy in some way afterwards.
I feel like I now have to prepare a questionnaire or a checklist and thoroughly test potential girl on everything before taking her upstairs: does she speak English, did she have a baby, is she ok to kiss (and then try it with her), see if she is fun to talk with, is there a chemistry between us, are there any red flags, etc.
But when you just want to have some fun, thoroughly testing the girl is the last thing on your mind.
Oh, and don't start me on the tips. Somehow the ones with the worst service want tips the most (and also ask for more that usual).
In terms of other places, I haven't been to that many of them, but I haven't found anything consistently good, especially with a good value for money.
Travel is too dark everywhere except for sofas, so after going there a few times I gave up, as I simply can't see the girls on offer.
I had high hopes for Emporium, but their girls are nothing special in terms of looks (compared to what you may expect by reading this forum) and Classic girls are usually better in that sense.
However the service is much much better at Emporium. But I only been there 2 times, and I had 1 great experience and 1 OK one (which for that kind of money is actually bad), so not enough to be conclusive. And to be honest I am not really looking forward to go back as they don't have pretty girls there.
CJ was fun one time I went there, but I wasn't ready to take anyone that night and it was super cold inside which I did not expect, so didn't stay long. Worth coming back I think, but due to my living situation taking someone for the night is not an option for me.
Will try to reach more northern parts and check out 1001 and Kotah Indah at some point, but due to my location getting there from the south-west is a big commitment.
Just my 2 cents.
P.S. Registering and activating account on this forum seems to be quite a quest too. I wish it was easier to activate your account, as the experience is quite confusing and most email providers don't seem to receive emails from here.
A few days ago I went to 1001. It was after a late afternoon session in Kota Indah. Current price is 1,6 Mio for the local girls. If you don't take a girl, the entrance fee is 200 k. There were almost 100 of them and I was quite impressed. I would rate most of them between 7 and 8.
I was tired and had no intention of taking a girl. I just wanted to get to know the place. I decided just to have a late lunch / early dinner there. I never asked for a "contest" (that's how they call it in Jakarta when they present a group of girls at your table). But my table was close to the fishbowl, and the girls had to pass by when they went to contests at other clients' sofas / tables. I've spent about one hour there, and during the entire time no more than 4 girls were picked by clients. These girls apparently don't get a lot of clients, which might give the clients a better chance of a decent service than what you get from the high volume girls at KI or Classic. Together with the nice ambience this might justify the higher price.Thanks, I believe gathering from earlier posts that the room fee is separate so picking a 1. 6 m girl will actually cost you 1. 9 m as a final cost. Did you get a chance to enquire about the CIS girl prices at 1001?
Did you get a chance to enquire about the CIS girl prices at 1001?I didn't really really pay attention. I think it was more than 3 juta.
A few days ago I went to 1001. It was after a late afternoon session in Kota Indah. Current price is 1,6 Mio for the local girls. If you don't take a girl, the entrance fee is 200 k. There were almost 100 of them and I was quite impressed. I would rate most of them between 7 and 8.
I was tired and had no intention of taking a girl. I just wanted to get to know the place. I decided just to have a late lunch / early dinner there. I never asked for a "contest" (that's how they call it in Jakarta when they present a group of girls at your table). But my table was close to the fishbowl, and the girls had to pass by when they went to contests at other clients' sofas / tables. I've spent about one hour there, and during the entire time no more than 4 girls were picked by clients. These girls apparently don't get a lot of clients, which might give the clients a better chance of a decent service than what you get from the high volume girls at KI or Classic. Together with the nice ambience this might justify the higher price.At what time did you go? I'll visit too and will certainly session provided I can pay by "tap". That's how they call "tap-and-pay" (credit card or Google / Apple Pay). I see next to 1001 there's a place called Collosseum. Is that also a sex venue? Ok, I see it's the alternative name of 1001.
Travel Hotel.
Went here about 5-6 pm and quite surprised there seemed to be only 4 sofas of girls whereas we all know Classic has like 10 sofas in a circle. Strange because last time I visited Travel also had about 10+ sofas in a circle, now it's like a semi-circle or maybe it was too early. I tried to find the dancer that I had last time, she is a normal girl there but she has like a chunky dancer / cheerleader type figure but couldn't find her at all.
Spoke to Mamasan Tina, have to say her girls aren't great. Normal slim types but no-one really stood out.
Then MMS Nur, she said all her girls from Java but they were even worse.
MMS Kelly, chose 2 but then they said no kissing not even if one of the girls kiss the client so I got rid of them.
Finally MMS Titin & I saw this girl with huge boobs walking back to the sofa and just knew I had to take her. Even if she has a bad attitude I just thought wow her knockers are the biggest I've seen on a small girl. I think they were F cups but as it turned her attitude wasn't the best so I chose another girl who did have a better attitude and took both of them. Different to my last visits at Travel both girls joined me in the room at the same time but they seemed to be nattering away as they were best friends apparently. Normally I wouldn't choose girls who are best frds because of this exact reason but her friend was actually cute. But they were super OCD about the hygiene and really used the tissue soaked with listerine very thoroughly everywhere. The big boobed girl was relucatant for me to touch her boobs and avoided coming into the shower, it was only during sex that she let me touch them but they did feel so good. Then after she got me hard with the BJ she suddenly told me to wait, got her phone out using translation and asked me "how long you last during sex"? I was like wtf why ask me that right before we do it and obviously I'm going to go soft if she delays the act after the BJ.
She wasn't great on top but I think she got into it more when I drilled her in mish then reverse spooning when I came squeezing her boobs and sinking my teeth into her neck gently.
But the other girl Nita, it was a disaster. Inexperienced, teeth and nails scratching on my little bro as she was doing the BJ and getting on top when I wasn't hard enough which happened a couple of times. After the 3rd time, she tried to grind in CG but she wasn't very good. Then she got off and gasped as there was a small patch of blood behind her but she said her period definitely over so didn't know where it came from. After a while I just called it off.
On my way to the hotel but first impression of civvies at the airport leaves a lot to be desired. Really below average girls not worth a second look even and this worries me, though it seems too fast to judge. I have exactly 3 days here and 3 days in Bali before a 4 nighter in Pattaya.
I hope Indonesia doesn't disappoint.
At what time did you go? .My Grab history says I got there Wednesday at 19:41.
Expat American
01-19-25, 08:27
My Grab history says I got there Wednesday at 19:41.What exactly did you expect? A line up of bikini clad models greeting you at the gate?
On my way to the hotel but first impression of civvies at the airport leaves a lot to be desired. Really below average girls not worth a second look even and this worries me, though it seems too fast to judge. I have exactly 3 days here and 3 days in Bali before a 4 nighter in Pattaya.
I hope Indonesia doesn't disappoint.Huge difference between Civvies and ones that you will see in the clubs, Civvies I have seen on the streets and other places don't wear too much make up in general and also the Hijab covers them up completely. Disappointment is relative to expectations of course, so go through the thread (unless you already have), that should give you an idea of what to expect.
Personally I haven't come across anyone yet who is very skilled at the act (most are amateurs who wait to see what you do next, others are pros who want to gain a quick buck without putting too much effort. Story that echoes globally these days), but there is a good mix of beauty and differences lie in the scale of what they will allow you to do.
Happy hunting!!
Hi, long time lurker here.
I don't know how people in Classic seem to have mostly good experiences (by reading this forum).
I have been in Classic more than 10 times in the last year, and most of my experiences have been varying levels of bad.
Overall I think I had 2 great experience in Classic, 1-2 ok ones, and about 7-8 bad ones.
If you can accept this without taking offence, with those numbers, I'll say it's not them, it's you.
I'm not sure how many times I was in Classic during my two Jakarta trips so far, but I'm guessing somewhere around 10-15. Even my worst experience, two very mercurial girls in a BBFS, pussy-swapping threesome, was at least ok and left me happy enough, even though I'm fairly sure they said "well, fuck you" to me a few times while we were in bed, and I was thinking the same about them. I don't think I ever had what I'd rate as a bad session at Classic, as I'd not tip for a bad session, and I've tipped after every session at Classic I think.
Reading about your and the other guy's recent experience, I don't think I've just been really lucky and you have just been really unlucky.
What I do is spend a minute, or less, to gauge the girls I find attractive. At Classic, she's standing next to me, maybe standing between my legs as I sit on the bar stool. I speak zero Indonesian unfortunately, but during that one minute I get them smiling or laughing, and treat them more like a normal date that has progressed to the "being close together phase", than a p4p girl. We touch a little, maybe brush lips, etc. If I feel she's indifferent (or worse), I send her away and look for somebody else.
I never get the girl to promise kissing, or anything else* before going to the room with her. If I want to kiss her, I'll kiss her upstairs. If I repulse her so much she doesn't want to do that there and then, she's not going to suddenly start kissing me in the room just because she said she would.
My suggestion: work on getting some rapport with the girl from the time you meet upstairs all the way until you're naked on the bed downstairs. Get her laughing, smiling, hitting you playfully.
My #1 mistake when I started mongering, just a couple of years ago, was not doing that, and getting a lot of bad to so-so experiences in return. I was thinking since they're somebody I'm paying to bang, why should it matter if they like me or not? After I changed that, my experiences greatly improved, and equally importantly, it gave me a way to filter out many girls who would probably have ended up as a bad experience.
*the one exception to this I would make is BBBJ, but since that's the standard at Classic, I don't need to make sure of that, though I did see the report recently from one guy regarding that.
Day 1:
So after a redeye flight, with no sleep and energy reached the hotel around Noon.
Jakarta seems like a dump. I mean it's not a real dump but simply cannot be compared with Bangkok, just my opinion. For some reason I assumed both are similar. The sheer difference in standard of living is unbelievable. It just looks like a decaying inner city neighborhood with graffiti all over and just did not give any good vibes. But other than hotels, just about everything in Bangkok is miles ahead. I don't think I will ever come back here.
Reached the hotel couple of hours earlier but they didn't make me wait and gave the room right away.
Showered, changed clothes and immediately set foot outside and had fried noodles at a mom and pop shop. It was crazy busy being Sunday afternoon and lots of social family lunches and food was average with too much noodles and no meat. But the caramel green tea which I tried for the first time was bloody amazing. So worth the 100 k bill.
Came out and wondered what to do at 2 pm. Opened Google Maps and noticed a few KI bars were open. Randomly chose Sugar. The fucking grab app (similar to what another poster had mentioned, wanted to verify my card again) was useless and I ended up taking the Gojek ride which wasn't bad. Reached the bar and the receptionist immediately guided me to the 2nd floor which was a meeting place with sofas and a bunch of mamasans. This is the first time I am meeting an Indonesian pro so I was worried about the looks. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw a few girls with other customers and they seemed doable though in the dark room it was difficult to see. The mamasan open the tab and showed pictures of the available girls. I basically chose the youngest one and within five minutes she was there and I was relieved to know she indeed was an acceptable girl. Both the mamasan and the girl spoke broken English, enough to communicate. She said she was 25 yrs old and it could be true. No more than 30 for sure.
The rest was just the standard script- a quick shower, lame massage, few positions to finish, shower again and leave.
Couple of things I liked- the girl was very friendly throughout, spent time in the shower before and after together. The bed linen and pillow cover were changed in front of my eyes too.
On my way out, one Asian dude has asked for a lineup it seems and all the girls were paraded in front of him. So I got a chance to see about 8 or so girls. All were decent, mid 20's to mid 30's, lots of makeup, pure white skin and not a single brown colored one, no fatties or grannies, all were average and doable. I would rate then all 5-6's. A lot of them looked more like Thais than Indos, again my noob opinion.
Final bill was 1 M for 1 HR of total time spent from entering to leaving.
650 k for 1 hour, 220 k for drinks I bought for the girl and mamasan since they spent a good amount of time with me chilling on the sofa, plus miscellaneous bull shit tax I guess. I did not tip the girl (and neither did she ask) since the session was just average but it seems they have padded the bill by 100 k or so which I did not mind.
Overall experience - 5/10.
Girls quality - 5/10.
Girl attitude - 7/10.
Will I repeat. No, but if you just wanted to get rid of a boner then yes.
3 things I didn't like:
1) The security procedures were paranoid. They insisted I left my belt bag in a locker, alleging it had a "tali" ie a belt. Did they think I would use it to strangle the girl? After being seated I remembered I had left my sagami condom in my belt bag, so I asked to go down again. They didn't like this at all, hinting there was a 2000 IDR fine every time a customer needed to go down to the locker. Guards with talkie-walkies were everywhere like in a high-security prison. You couldn't open a door or walk ten feet without being ckecked and escorted. What was this all in aid of?
2) Compared to the luxury of the place, the room was disappoinging. It had no mirror and was dark. We fumbled with switches in the hope of conjuring up more light but to no avail. I was paying up to 2 million for this and I felt cheated not to be able to see clearly what I was putting my dick into. There were 2 celing lamps above the bed but the light bulbs were dead. Maybe this room was the one to which they sent customers they didn't want as repeat customers (more of this below).
3) When I asked for 69 the girl warned me BJ had to be covered. I told her in that case to stick to using her hand. To her credit she ended up doing some kind of BBBJ. There was the possibility that covered blowjob was part of the house rules.
On the positive side:
1) The line-up seemed better than Emporium's. Taller girls on average. I was early so the full line-up was perhaps stunning if you came late.
2) I could pay everything by NFC, including the girl's tip. Good as I wanted to hoard my cash.
I'm glad I visited but I won't be back. Too expensive, not so good vibe, unerotic rooms. If you didn't take a girl there was a cover charge of 300k (this included one drink if I remember right). I didn't feel totally welcome and had the impression they wanted me to know they could do without a cheapskate of a bule like me for a customer. After I paid the final bill they refused to give me the receipt from the machine. They said blankly I was not allowed to have the receipt.
P.S. It dawns on me in the old days there was a 1001 club near Stadium. I remember visiting said 1001 and feeling so unwelcome I didn't even ask to see the girls. Afterwards one of my regular girls told me this 1001 near Stadium was not for westerners.
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Jakarta seems like a dump. I mean it's not a real dump but simply cannot be compared with Bangkok, just my opinion. For some reason I assumed both are similar. The sheer difference in standard of living is unbelievable. It just looks like a decaying inner city neighborhood with graffiti all over and just did not give any good vibes. But other than hotels, just about everything in Bangkok is miles ahead. I don't think I will ever come back here...
.Yes, much more poverty in the street than in Bangkok. It may have to do with the higher Indonesian birthrate. Which birthrate may have to do with .... Jakarta having fifty times more to offer to a western monger than Bangkok. Relax, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Didn't you used to do around 6 ectasy per night at Stadium?
Do you know a girl named Elga?
I knew one Ella.
If I remember right you are the ISG member who doxxed me back then on this forum after asking for info about me at Maribaya's.
I went to BATS Friday night and CJs Saturday night. BATS was like a reunion of girls I knew 20 years ago. Haha. It's amazing those same girls are still going at it....Is that so? Well well well, I must pay BATS a visit then. How I'd love to meet Nikken, Vika, Shanty, Iis, Sophie, Judith, Ella ...
Had one hell of a session at Classic, detailed write up later.
I went with very little expectations and ended up with an extremely satisfying session.
Girl, early to mid 20's - 5/10 .
Attitude - 11/10.
Value for Money. Unfuckingbelievable.
Also, I don't understand why everyone here is complaining about mamasans. Yes they want to increase business for their groups but 4 or 5 of them spoke to me and all of them were super friendly. I just overall had a very positive experience here. Except for the really weird way of them trying to hide T5 from visitors. WTF is that all about?
... Except for the really weird way of them trying to hide T5 from visitors. WTF is that all about?I think T5 is not for us. It's for insiders or local guys. Goings-on requiring more secrecy than can be sustained if the door is wide-open to the likes of us?
I don't understand the problem. You enter the elevator, tell the guy "terminal lima" and he gets you to the place.
I'm just not going back because I had one of my worst experiences of my P4 P life there.
3 things I didn't like:
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3) When I asked for 69 the girl warned me BJ had to be covered. I told her in that case to stick to using her hand. To her credit she ended up doing some kind of BBBJ. There was the possibility that covered blowjob was part of the house rules.
.Yes, that is exactly what I was told by the mamasan when I was there. Covered BJ is the rule in 1001. Of course the girl always may choose to disregard that when in the room, but CBJ is the standard going in and that is indeed what I had received from my girl when I was there.
I knew one Ella.
If I remember right you are the ISG member who doxxed me back then on this forum after asking for info about me at Maribaya's.
Wow, really? That's disgusting if true. Hope S. responds and tells us you must be confusing him with somebody else.
3 things I didn't like:
1) The security procedures were paranoid.
2) Compared to the luxury of the place, the room was disappoinging.
3) When I asked for 69 the girl warned me BJ had to be covered.
On the positive side:
1) The line-up seemed better than Emporium's. Taller girls on average. I was early so the full line-up was perhaps stunning if you came late.
2) I could pay everything by NFC, including the girl's tip. Good as I wanted to hoard my cash.
I'm glad I visited but I won't be back. Too expensive, not so good vibe, unerotic rooms. If you didn't take a girl there was a cover charge of 300k (this included one drink if I remember right). I didn't feel totally welcome and had the impression they wanted me to know they could do without a cheapskate of a bule like me for a customer. After I paid the final bill they refused to give me the receipt from the machine. They said blankly I was not allowed to have the receipt.
Thanks for the report. I was planning on visiting 1001 next time, but with both you and the other guy confirming CBJ is the norm there, and all the other things you list, I'm happy to save myself both the time and money.
I think T5 is not for us. It's for insiders or local guys. Goings-on requiring more secrecy than can be sustained if the door is wide-open to the likes of us?I only went to T5 once, on my last night, but I did not feel that at all. I thought it had considerably less girls than T2, perhaps because it had fairly recently re-opened when I went there in mid-December, and especially since I didn't understand there's another half to the "stage" with all the girls that I didn't see until too late. Apart from that it felt better organized in that you don't have to chase one particular mamasan for your chosen girl, and also easier to see all the girls, with half being on the left side of the stage, and the other half on the right side. Mamasans also much less annoying.
Girl I finally chose also ended up being the sweetest I met at Classic, though she also spoke the least English. One of the few times I bothered whipping out google translate.
I skipped day 8 because I was feeling a bit tired and bored, I wanted to shake up things a bit so thought of trying out the CIS chicks aspect in Jakarta, there are only 2 options that I have discovered for it so far I. E. 1001 and Malio's, I had posted a few messages asking for help on the topic, as I had a bad experience at Malio club earlier so wanted to give 1001 the first priority, thanks to Safado for giving some baseline information on 1001 and Superlove for sharing 1001 info, who provided me with all the information that I needed. I contacted the 1001 person on Whatsapp and the cost over there is 1. 6 for local + 300 k for Cover charge + 300 k for mandatory tip, this is for 1 hour, and for CIS or foreign girls is it 3. 6 juta +300 cover+300 mandatory tip, which puts it in a very high cost spectrum, so I decided to give Malio a try first as I saw the charges over there to be on the lower end and the girls I saw at the club were not bad. Following is the review from Malio:
1. Malio:
I went in slightly early as I wanted to do some shopping today as well, so at 6-6. 30 pm I took the wrist band and as per the experience before I tried to get to the club in the adjacent building, but numerous watchmen and lift boys told me that club opens at 8 pm, I went back to the ground floor tried to return the badge stating that there is nothing for me to do, they advised me to check out floor 2 which is a lounge / restaurant and there is also a sauna on floor 1, following this advise I went to floor 2 in the lounge area, I thought I was just entering a restaurant to kill some time but to my surprise a mama followed me and asked me about ladies, I also saw the CIS chicks available having some meal (not sure if it was lunch or dinner or something else), I knew I was at the right place, exploration is such an important facet in this foreign land, where sometimes by just fluke or stroke of luck you may find yourself in the right place, since I was one of the only few customers there, mama asked me for the ladies, she didn't understand much english, so she called another papi (Ivan), he understood some english, I clearly asked him about the prices and would there be any tips or cover charges over and above what he is quoting, he said an all incl. Price of 3. 1 M which seemed way better than the 1001 deal, I told him I will have a beer first and then decide, they left me alone for some time and was sitting at a table behind me, I scanned the available CIS girls (I am happy with the local girls available at Classic and KI and only reason for me to be at Malio was the CIS chicks on this day), after a beer of Guiness, I called him and told him that I need DFK but he said that the girls don't do it on the first encounter, I said ask or I am walking out, he pointed to one girl that did, she wasn't my first choice as she was kind of a big girl for me (don't get me wrong but CIS girls come in all shapes and sizes and while I was in Prague their websites let you see the height, weight, bust size of the girl on the website itself before selection so I chose the smaller options who would work better with me), but this one was big and on top of that she was wearing tall heels, she mentioned her age was 20, I said ok (what a stark difference between 20 year old SEA and CIS chicks), but I believe life is about experiencing the variety of things. She didn't speak much english but luckily I have Russian language downloaded on my translate along with bahasa, so it was a smooth sail, she confirmed of the 10-15 CIS chicks available only approx. 4 are Russian others are Uzbeks, few Ukranians etc, I took her word for it, I prefer my girls smaller as I myself am 5'6 and while some times taller girls are fun, most of the times I prefer girls who are smaller in size (height as well as other aspects than me, I even like the bust size to be not huge), anyways since she was the only one who would do DFK she became a natural selection, she was nice to give me company while I finished my existing beer and took the time to finish another one, I popped the V while I ordered my first beer so wanted to buy some time before it kicked in. I asked her whether she would like a drink, she said no alcohol and didn't order anything, didn't even take my cigs (what a nice girl!! Genuinely).
No payments were made beforehand, they made me sign all the orders and while we exited the lounge area the papi gave me something else to sign and it turned out to be 'how much would I tip the papi', starting price 200 k, I said no thanks, if anything I will consider tipping the girl if the performance goes well, not to anyone else, mind you while taking the lift guys surrounding the lift on the floor we were on till the floor we went expected tips, I just ignored them, we went straight to the room, where she went to the washroom first (I expected this to be similar to Indo girls, where we shower together) but once she was out in towel, I asked her to join me and also asked her to bathe me, sometimes you need the handholding to get them to your wavelength right?, anyways started kissing in the bathroom itself, she responded well, but not as good as the Indo girls I have been with, I have been with many CIS girls and they can tend to be completely business like (which takes the fun out of the act and the language barrier doesn't help), I ensured that she bathed me and got involved a bit while bathing me, at the end I had to push her out as I wanted to pee LOL.
Once out of the bathroom, we were both on bed in our towels, I started kissing her, while she responded well, she shut off opening her mouth afte some time, but she didn't disconnect, instead she played with my ears in a very sexy way (Russian / Ukranian girls are good at this (most of the ones I have been with), she bit, gasped, licked the insides of my ears, not sure how else I explain this without being literal), it was very sexy then played with my nips licked me from my face till my Johnny, when I interrupted her and asked her to put on the condom, she sucked well (better skill than any Indo girl I have encountered before), after she was done, I took charge, started with kissing again (no objections, but didn't open her mouth), I reciprocated the ear play, and then went down on her neck (her skin was the perfect amount of white for a blonde girl (yep that's right!, she was blonde)), sucked her ample boobs to my heart's content and then went down towards her pussy when she started gasping, I took a break from the direct tour and went for starting from her legs (calves and upwards) instead, I could sense that she liked it when my mouth was close to her pussy, so I was building the anticipation, once I reached the endopoint of her legs (in upward direction), I went in with a ferocious intent on her pussy and licked the hell out of it (unlike Indo girls I didn't have to go soft on her, she was beefy chick and I knew she can handle the intensity), while my mouth was at work I fancied slipping a finger in (generally none of the CIS girls I tried before allowed this, just a personal experience), and she allowed it, despite her big frame she was surprisingly tight down there and the way she reacted to my finger in was astonishing, I never expected a CIS girl to react with this much passion, and I was loving it, after 8-10 minutes I could actually feel the juices flowing, it was hot, but she stopped it at this point and as I use a separate condom for fucking, we switched to Durex Intense, and I started ploughing her in missionary, the moans that she was producing were awesome and I didn't miss the opportunity to kiss her lips neck and her entire face, but I slowed down eventually as I didn't want to nut in one position, so switched to doggy, she knew how to arch her back for this position perfectly and we went at it with a high intensity (including butt slapping, etc.) for 10-15 minutes, I warned her before cumming and I released in doggy, she knew how to adjust her body for receiving the release so is was no problem.
Once we went to shower everything was again business like, final bill at the checkout, it was only 3. 3 M, 3. 1 for the girl and 200 k for the 2- 99 k / Guiness beers I had. Overall a very good experience from a very good girl at Malio Lounge, I noticed they waived off the cover charge of 150 k also so this was a delightful experience as compared to the club one earlier.
I don't understand the problem. You enter the elevator, tell the guy "terminal lima" and he gets you to the place.
I'm just not going back because I had one of my worst experiences of my P4 P life there.Bro same experience, as mentioned in earlier posts, if you know it good, but it is not apparent for a first time visitor as compared to T0 (I. E. The ground floor) and T2 which one can easily locate going up the escalators.
Bro same experience, as mentioned in earlier posts, if you know it good, but it is not apparent for a first time visitor as compared to T0 (I. E. The ground floor) and T2 which one can easily locate going up the escalators.This really just proves that you all aren't RTFF.
I posted extensively in November and December about T2 and T5 and posted very specific directions about finding the elevator and telling the elevator man "lantai lima" and I also posted about the opening time of 6 pm.
LoveItHere also posted about T5 and how there are 2 separate fishbowls on either side of the stage.
I even took ISG member Pokeris to Terminal 5.
It is not only for locals and it is not hidden either.
Sometimes you just need to do a little research.
-Gabacho.
P.S.: To XXL I wouldn't give up quite yet on Classic. I had a cpl bad experiences there too but overall, the vast majority of experiences there were great in both T2 and T5. Also the sheer number of girls all in one place you are bound to have a few bad apples but you may be missing out on some great experiences based on bad experience, just my humble opinion. One thing for sure is that classic was better than both travel and Starmoon.
Wow, really? That's disgusting if true. Hope S. responds and tells us you must be confusing him with somebody else.Yeah, plenty of similar-sounding handles.
Axel Heyst
01-19-25, 23:04
Arnold, glad you had a good time, but the place you are describing is Malioboro Lounge eg you entered the building through the first door on your right as you walked down the driveway and the lounge was on the 2nd floor. The outside entrance to Malio Club is through the 2nd door on your right further down the driveway and to be absolutely clear, Malio Club IS on the ground floor.
Both bordellos are great and worth checking out. The protocol as you posted is that as soon as you enter the building from either entrance customers are given a numbered ID bracelet which works in both bordellos and to which ALL subsequent charges are posted. You pay your tab before leaving the building.
Now once inside the building you can travel from Malio to Malioboro by taking the Malio elevator up to the 3rd floor and walking down the hotel hallway with rooms on either side and then following a grand staircase one floor down to Malioboro Lounge or reverse this path to go the other way. You won't get lost. There is always some hotel staff to point the way. 555.
Malioboro vs. Malio:
Malioboro has a bar and attractive Indonesian dancers. Malio has a bar and attractive Indonesian dancers. I think there are more dancers in Malio, but I have had great times with smoking hot dancers from both locations. The dancers are the top of the Malioboro / Malio pyramid. Now some of the differences: Malioboro has two levels, the mezzanine level from which you enter and the lower level with many, many more mamasan managed girls of varied national origins including several tables or seating arrangements with Indonesian girls. Each table or seating arrangement features girls of different country origins. I have sampled the Indonesian mamasan managed girls whom I highly recommend, but I have also sampled a couple of Chinese mamasan girls and one time an Asian looking Kazakstani mamasan mananged girl. (A 1st).
Malio Club has mamasan managed girls as well, but far, far fewer. I call them couch girls, and incidentally Malio Club does not have any mamasan managed foreign girls. Malio also has a mezzanine, but it is reserved for BJ sessions with the dancers. So, like I said, both bordellos are pretty great IMHO. If you want a foreign girl or some late night dinner then Malioboro is where to go. Malio Club has more dancers suggesting more lookers, but this is not always the case. And Malioboro Lounge has many more mamasan managed girls (couch girls) of various national origins. Personally, I slightly prefer Malio over Malioboro and I usually start my nights entertainment in Malio around 9 pm. But if I don't see what I like or I am looking for more action after my 1st girl, I will follow the labyrinth described above to check out the other bar and vice-versa.
P.S. The internal route is the only way to check out both clubs without having to pay two separate cover charges. All of the mamasan managed girls are pre-priced. There is no negotiation. The Indonesian mamasan managed girls have a two-tiered pricing system depending on who knows what. Local demand? I don't know. With the dancers there is room for a little price negotiation with the girl during the audition and before you commit. What you pay a dancer varies depending on how busy the place is, whether the girl likes you or not, and what she thinks her price should be. I have been offered various prices from the dancers and sometimes there is as much as a 1000 k price difference between 2 dancers. Wow!
1. Malio:
I went in slightly early as I wanted to do some shopping today as well, so at 6-6. 30 pm I took the wrist band and as per the experience before I tried to get to the club in the adjacent building, but numerous watchmen and lift boys told me that club opens at 8 pm, I went back to the ground floor tried to return the badge stating that there is nothing for me to do, they advised me to check out floor 2 which is a lounge / restaurant and there is also a sauna on floor 1, following this advise I went to floor 2 in the lounge area, I thought I was just entering a restaurant to kill some time but to my surprise a mama followed me and asked me about ladies, I also saw the CIS chicks available
BenderOver
01-20-25, 01:59
As names mentioned by some members, I did lookup fashion hotel mentioned in some threads, so decided to check it out before I went to Classic, review below:
1. Fashion Hotel:
It should be noted that there's a FASHION hotel northeast of MONAS and a be-FASHION hotel west of monas. I thought be-FASHION was better than FASHION, but you'll find a few posts where I've had several bad results from be-FASHION that I may have banned them from my rotation. Be-FASHION is near Taman Anggrek Mall and Central Park Mall. The malls are right next to each other but they couldn't be more different from each other.
ArnoldNE.
About the CIS girl, the covered BJ was your idea, not hers, right?
And I hope it's okay to ask a sexual health question in this thread: what's the point in asking for a covered BJ if you DATY anyway? You have way more mucous membrane in your mouth than you have on your dick.
ArnoldNE.
About the CIS girl, the covered BJ was your idea, not hers, right?
And I hope it's okay to ask a sexual health question in this thread: what's the point in asking for a covered BJ if you DATY anyway? You have way more mucous membrane in your mouth than you have on your dick.CBJ was my idea.
Why CBJ? And then do DATY, we all have our personal style of doing things, and I believe that it is hard to know if a girl has a open sore or cut in her mouth and hence doing BBJ is like going in blind, whereas when it comes to DATY I know my mouth does not have any open sores / cuts, If I do then I don't perform DATY or avoid sex with a working girl altogether. I also clean my mouth with Listerine blue (contains alcohol) after the act, and usually have some form of alcohol (beer etc, before the act also) and just to be on safer side I am also taking Doxy 100 MG every 2 days apart to avoid any bacterial infections, this is new for me and it is a precaution that I picked up from Gabacho's posts.
These are just personal practices and I haven't come across any STI / DS over past 20+ years of mongering, but a feedback on improvement is always welcome.
It should be noted that there's a FASHION hotel northeast of MONAS and a be-FASHION hotel west of monas. I thought be-FASHION was better than FASHION, but you'll find a few posts where I've had several bad results from be-FASHION that I may have banned them from my rotation. Be-FASHION is near Taman Anggrek Mall and Central Park Mall. The malls are right next to each other but they couldn't be more different from each other.Yes, I have been to Taman Anggrek mall yesterday only and it is pretty far from where I am staying, so I can confirm that I have been to Fashion hotel only not B / be-fashion, as fashion hotel is very close from my hotel, I have shared ample description for anyone to differentiate and not be confused. I have never been to B or be fashion, went to Taman angrekk yesterday just for shopping, I saw Central Park next to it also, never been in that area for mongering.
Thanks for explaining Arnold, I understand your reasoning.
Actually, By this logic, BBBJ is safer than DATY for the girls. I will use your argument next time a girl refuses BBBJ after having received DATY, which sadly enough, has happened to me a few times.
CBJ was my idea.
I am also taking Doxy 100 MG every 2 days apart to avoid any bacterial infectionsI would like to be corrected if I'm wrong, but afaik, the current consensus is one of these:
a) 200mg as soon as possible after unprotected sex (as a PEP, post exposure / after sex). Repeat after 24 hours if having had unprotected sex again since the last time you took doxycycline.
Reference: https://www.cdc.gov/sti/prevention/doxy-pep.html#text=Take%20200%20 MG%20 of%20 doxycycline, have%20 sex%20 in%20 a%20 day.
b) 100mg every 24 hours (as a PrEP, pre exposure / before sex). A less researched alternative, though tests seem to indicate it is no less effective than a).
Reference: Bottom of https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/rr/rr7302a1.htm, plus various other smaller sites.
I'm not aware of any 100mg every 48 hours regime.
In spite of Malioboro being 800 m as the crow flies from my hotel, it took the taxi 50 minutes to get there. The driver kept straying from the itinerary, not sure he knew what he was doing. Lesson: in Jakarta don't swallow your viagra before setting out, it may have ceased to work by the time you take a girl to the room.
No NFC payment at Malioboro's. This alone for me would justify not coming back. I expect high-end (expensive) venues to do NFC payments.
I settled for a girl who warmed up to me as soon as I set eyes on her. I took her straight to the room. I needed my coffein shot so I asked for a coke to be brought to the room. Without consulting me they asked the girl what she wanted to drink and added 150 k to the bill.
Once naked the girl turned out to have not such a great figure. Oddly she was good at blowjobs (BBBJ no questions asked) but she couldn't do doggystyle, something that doesn't surprise me in Jakarta any more by now. From my heroic days in Jakarta I don't even remember coming across a single girl who couldn't do doggy. Did they pass a law?
All Malioboro staff - every last one of them except the cashier girls - expected a tip from me. Even the security guard outside kept pestering me while I was waiting for my ride home.
The only positive thing about Malioboro was the spacious well-appointed room. Otherwise the line-up didn't strike me as any better than in the cheap joints.
From now on I'm going to stick to Emporium for my high-end (expensive) sessions. Otherwise I'll do cheap sessions in places like Classic and Kota Indah, never mind if I have to try out several girls before hitting on one who delivers. Yesterday's experience at 1001 and today's at Malioboro have shown me that expensive places can also be hit and miss. Hit and miss at cheap venues doesn't break the bank. Hit and miss at expensive venues hurts.
I wonder what day of the week would be best to visit BATS? I don't want the place to be dead, on the other hand I'd rather avoid a sausage fest.
This doggy problem in Jakarta is crazy.
I had 5 (girls that said they didn't like it and / or were really bad at it.
What's going on here?
I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong, but afaik, the current consensus is one of these:
a) 200mg as soon as possible after unprotected sex (as a PEP, post exposure / after sex). Repeat after 24 hours if having had unprotected sex again since the last time you took doxycycline.
Reference: https://www.cdc.gov/sti/prevention/doxy-pep.html#text=Take%20200%20 MG%20 of%20 doxycycline, have%20 sex%20 in%20 a%20 day.
b) 100mg every 24 hours (as a PrEP, pre exposure / before sex). A less researched alternative, though tests seem to indicate it is no less effective than a).
Reference: Bottom of https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/rr/rr7302a1.htm, plus various other smaller sites.
I'm not aware of any 100mg every 48 hours regime.I am just doing it as an additional precaution, so far I hadn't even used Doxy, I don't have unprotected sex anyways except for DFK and DATY (which are relatively low risk activities), the best way to stay safe of course is not have sex at all LOL, but that being said these activities always come with a certain amount of risk but that ofc can also be true of any sexual encounter, all you can do is stay as safe as possible without taking unnecessary risks. Science these days makes one argument one day and next day they will say something else about their own argument ('all under the name of Research shows this / that' bottomline if they have something definitive then we will be the first ones to know but unfortunately there is no silver bullet that prevents it all. Taking too many antibiotics in short amount of time will lead to bad stuff that will come with a 100% certainty (like impact on your liver) so I avoid dosing myself with too much of that stuff.
Just read this:
'Recent research shows that taking doxycycline within 3 days (or 72 hours) after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting syphilis, chlamydia, and, in some studies, gonorrhea. This prevention strategy is called doxy PEP. '.
You think this is a definitive statement?
I have taken my cue with a pinch of salt from one of such websites as you had shared even on the links that you shared, see what is the key highlight:
'Taking the antibiotic doxycycline within 72 hours after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting sexually transmitted infections (STI). This is called "doxy PEP. '.
If I take this statement as a baseline, why take one everyday? 72 hours is a good enough window isn't it?
I am just doing it as an additional precaution, so far I hadn't even used Doxy, I don't have unprotected sex anyways except for DFK and DATY (which are relatively low risk activities), the best way to stay safe of course is not have sex at all LOL, but that being said these activities always come with a certain amount of risk but that ofc can also be true of any sexual encounter, all you can do is stay as safe as possible without taking unnecessary risks. Science these days makes one argument one day and next day they will say something else about their own argument ('all under the name of Research shows this / that' bottomline if they have something definitive then we will be the first ones to know but unfortunately there is no silver bullet that prevents it all. Taking too many antibiotics in short amount of time will lead to bad stuff that will come with a 100% certainty (like impact on your liver) so I avoid dosing myself with too much of that stuff.
Just read this:
'Recent research shows that taking doxycycline within 3 days (or 72 hours) after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting syphilis, chlamydia, and, in some studies, gonorrhea. This prevention strategy is called doxy PEP. '.
You think this is a definitive statement?
I have taken my cue with a pinch of salt from one of such websites as you had shared even on the links that you shared, see what is the key highlight:
'Taking the antibiotic doxycycline within 72 hours after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting sexually transmitted infections (STI). This is called "doxy PEP. '.
If I take this statement as a baseline, why take one everyday? 72 hours is a good enough window isn't it?Different dosages. Within 72 hours is a double dose (200 mg). This is for use after sex by those not taking it daily.
Daily is 100 mg.
Different dosages. Within 72 hours is a double dose (200 mg). This is for use after sex by those not taking it daily.
Daily is 100 mg.Noted bro.
I am just doing it as an additional precaution, so far I hadn't even used Doxy, I don't have unprotected sex anyways except for DFK and DATY (which are relatively low risk activities), the best way to stay safe of course is not have sex at all LOL, but that being said these activities always come with a certain amount of risk but that ofc can also be true of any sexual encounter, all you can do is stay as safe as possible without taking unnecessary risks. Science these days makes one argument one day and next day they will say something else about their own argument ('all under the name of Research shows this / that' bottomline if they have something definitive then we will be the first ones to know but unfortunately there is no silver bullet that prevents it all. Taking too many antibiotics in short amount of time will lead to bad stuff that will come with a 100% certainty (like impact on your liver) so I avoid dosing myself with too much of that stuff.
Just read this:
'Recent research shows that taking doxycycline within 3 days (or 72 hours) after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting syphilis, chlamydia, and, in some studies, gonorrhea. This prevention strategy is called doxy PEP. '.
You think this is a definitive statement?
I have taken my cue with a pinch of salt from one of such websites as you had shared even on the links that you shared, see what is the key highlight:
'Taking the antibiotic doxycycline within 72 hours after sex can help some people reduce the chances of getting sexually transmitted infections (STI). This is called "doxy PEP. '.
If I take this statement as a baseline, why take one everyday? 72 hours is a good enough window isn't it?While I was on my SEA trip I took 100 MG Doxycycline everyday from August thru December while barebacking in Thailand, Philippines, and Jakarta.
Now that my trip is over I had full blood work done and the everything came back good. My doctor even was like HIV negative, Gonorrea negative, chlamydia negative, kidneys good, liver good, thyroid good.
One indicator of the liver called ALT was a little bit high at 52 as the range is supposed to be 9 - 48 according to Quest Diagnostics but my AST was 29 which is good, my alkaline phosphate was 63 which is good and my bilirubin total is 0. 8 which is also good. So he said my liver is functioning great and the ALT being a little high he said was probably from past alcohol drinking.
Also my absolute lymphocytes was right at 4000 which is like perfect and my blood platelets and red and white bloodcells were all good as well.
And my testosterone level was 311 (which I thought was on the lower side of the range) however, my doctor said that was prerty good for my age (almost 40).
So taking Prep / Doxy / Acyclovir and Viagra and Tadafil on a regular basis have yet to have a detrimental effect on my liver or kidneys or anything.
Gabacho.
Hi fellas, so I decided I will take one for the team (just joking) and went to checkout Maxwell yesterday, review follows:
Yesterday I went to try out Maxwell, it is a posh setup, good facilities the lounge area is small but good, girl choices were also limited to approx. 7 and most were not that attractive, anyways I picked one out of the line-up after spending some time with my beer, mama Angel never left my side and just waited for me to choose, girl I chose was distant from the beginning and the moment I sat down girl waiter jumped out of nowhere for girl drink order, I thought order something light but her drink turned out to be 300 k later in the bill, price for the girl was 550 k and this included 40 minutes of bar sitting and drinking time + 1. 5 hours in the bedroom, it is a good deal if the girls were prettier or more options were available and if you can simply chuck the girl drink (which is ridiculously priced, or she intentionally ordered a cocktail), so after killing some time with the drinks we went upstairs.
I was getting some very cold vibes from the girl, but hoped she will open up once in the room, while I changed out of my clothes she was already done with the shower and expected me to take one alone, but I insisted that the joined (she obliged), after the bath once we were on the bed, we started with some kissing, she disconnected immediately, I said ok and moved on to her neck which she just shrugged off, I took some time with her boobs and when started moving downwards she started twitching and said no, no. I thought she is warming up but no she just wanted me to stop. I saw where this was heading and stopped immediately, told her if she didn't want to come why didn't she say no downstairs, she asked for translate, I handed over the phone and told her that I don't like the way things are going, you are just saying no to everything, why waste my time if you are not comfortable. To all this her only response was 'Mama will scold if we go out now' (this showed she has no remorse for how she is behaving and won't do anything to fix the situation, only concern was for saving her own ass), this was end of the line for me, I started dressing up, said I will talk with mama, gathered all my gear and just closed the door behind me while she went for another shower.
My preference was to get my money back or at least some reduction in the girl price for this abyssmal experience, BTW the guy in the lobby was funny and we had some good laughs even though we didn't understand a word the other one spoke. I went down took mama outside the room to explain the situation, I tried hard not to throw her under the bus, but it wasn't a conversation that would have happened without that, I explained her the situation and asked her of how do we resolve this situation, she thought for a while and then mentioned that I will have to pay the bill, I said I don't mind paying the bill even though the girl didn't confirm before buying an expensive coctail, but she needs to make some adjustment in the girl bill, then she called her manager who spoke a decent amount of english, I spoke with the guy for some time and asked him to just make some adjustment in the bill (920 k) as a gesture of good will and to compliment wasting my time, he was in between yes and no, I knew I could see a window so I pressed on the issue, but then he took me to the billing counter and again I saw the same bill, again some discussions to and fro, then he said bill already generated and he cannot reverse entry in the system, I said really!! Asked him for a final time if he wants me to pay the whole bill or will he make some adjustment, I was ready to give up and go out by this time, meanwhile they had some discussion the mama and the manager and they offered a fix for me to take another girl within the same bill, I said ok that sounds like a fair fix so got the cavalry out again chose a girl who was smiling from the beginning but wasn't a stunner (nobody in the lineup was), so up we go again.
BTW the rooms at Maxwell are top notch, they are very spacious have a TV running, bathroom is equipped with a bathtub, bed is pretty big. It is a cozy setup. This girl was very good in comparison, we took bath, she had some weird marks on her back (from neck till her ass in shape of bone outlines like somebody had beat her up) but she mentioned it is some Indonesian therapy. She was very nice in the sack, good 15-20 minutes DFK, did CBJ in a very submissive deepthroat position while I played with her V, didn't DATY her (wasn't that attracted to her), but she was good in service, fucked in 3 positions, had exit showers. I tipped her 50 k and she said more money? I just laughed it off and said ya ya everybody wants more money honey, now take a hike! LOL, but it she was a very good fix for the whole debacle earlier, mama also asked me on Whatsapp if this ladies was good, I confirmed and said thank you for the fix, she apologized for earlier issue, I said no problem and left for the night.
I was having an urge for getting a good massage and was checking some options out at late hours, unfortunately I was trying to find options at 11 pm and thought most shops would be closed by then, when searching on gmaps, I found several home massage options which are open 24 hrs (all for home/hotel room service), I chatted with them on Whatsapp and rates start from 200 k / 2 hours, but they don't have any locations, the website etc, is just an intermediary, interestingly enough they also offered me an ultra sensual massage option for 850 k for 2 hours, I don't prefer calling anyone to my hotel but if anyone is interested in such a service, knock yourself out, they also share pics of the therapist on Whatsapp, so it should give you an idea of what to expect. Link: https://massageoilhomespa.com/.
Hi fellas, so I decided I will take one for the team (just joking) and went to checkout Maxwell yesterday, review follows:
I knew I could see a window so I pressed on the issue, but then he took me to the billing counter and again I saw the same bill, again some discussions to and fro, then he said bill already generated and he cannot reverse entry in the system, I said really!! Asked him for a final time if he wants me to pay the whole bill or will he make some adjustment, I was ready to give up and go out by this time, meanwhile they had some discussion the mama and the manager and they offered a fix for me to take another girl within the same bill, I said ok that sounds like a fair fix so got the cavalry out again chose a girl who was smiling from the beginning but wasn't a stunner (nobody in the lineup was), so up we go again.
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mama also asked me on Whatsapp if this ladies was good, I confirmed and said thank you for the fix, she apologized for earlier issue, I said no problem and left for the night.
Excellently handled.
While I might have gotten a refund once or twice in a similar situation (and sometimes not got anything at all, simply being out of pocket for it all), the best one can normally hope for, once things have progressed to that point with the girl, is exactly what you got: a different girl. Aim for a refund, expect to get a different girl instead, and you both will feel somewhat ok about it after the negotiation. Also sends a clear message to the first girl.
In those situations, I'd probably tip the mama or manager something too, as they could have just left me high and dry. That will help them remember me, and also give me some extra goodwill from them next time.
Very interesting to read about these places that don't have many recent reports about them, from you, XXL, and others. Lets me know if I should just stick to Classic and Emporivum on my next trip, or if there are other places worth trying too.
MohdirFan82
01-21-25, 13:08
Most of my encounters with Indos were, they loved doggy. Maybe you picked the most skinnest one?
Indos love doggy in my experience.
This doggy problem in Jakarta is crazy.
I had 5 (girls that said they didn't like it and / or were really bad at it.
What's going on here?
Excellently handled.
While I might have gotten a refund once or twice in a similar situation (and sometimes not got anything at all, simply being out of pocket for it all), the best one can normally hope for, once things have progressed to that point with the girl, is exactly what you got: a different girl. Aim for a refund, expect to get a different girl instead, and you both will feel somewhat ok about it after the negotiation. Also sends a clear message to the first girl.
In those situations, I'd probably tip the mama or manager something too, as they could have just left me high and dry. That will help them remember me, and also give me some extra goodwill from them next time.
Very interesting to read about these places that don't have many recent reports about them, from you, XXL, and others. Lets me know if I should just stick to Classic and Emporivum on my next trip, or if there are other places worth trying too.I do it for the joy of exploration / variety and to avoid things being too repetitive in a small frame of time, if you are in it for the short haul, I am yet to find anything better than Classic (it is a well rounded place for everything you need under one roof, and their way of doing business is surprisingly honest for such a large establishment). But if you have time and want to mix things up, give the other places a go, the prices don't really pinch pockets compared to rest of the world, only thing that you may run out of is energy LOL.
I went to Soho mall today for some touristy activities, man the traffic in day-time is crazy, tried looking up a decent massage place, but ended up at a happy ending massage place instead. These places are very close to Soho mall (walking distance), they are in the building where King's karoke and lounge is there, but on the left side of the building from the main gate. There are 3 massage shops lined up at a distance of one or 2 shops in between, one of them is Mango, One Wijaya 57 and another one is Glow. Below is a quick review from Wijaya-57 (which I regretted later).
Wijaya-57: They had only 3 girls available which they showed on a tab, cost for 1 HR of massage with HJ was 250 k, I said ok lets try it out, place is an outright dump compared to all the other venues that we talk about here, room had a floor mattress, bathroom was a bucket and mug based bathroom (no shower), walls were made of single layer ply, AC was shared between rooms, girl was ok not too different from what was displayed on the photo. She was chatty spoke some english, we started massage, her first question was whether you want a massage or want to upgrade to boom-boom, I said massage dulu. She massaged my legs well (well as well as you could expect from these places), then asked me about Shiatsu (I wasn't sure what that was, she helped clarify it), so she put a towel on my back and walked over my back while putting pressure on neck and back area but I felt the intensity was too strong, so asked her to stop, she didn't bother to massage the front side at all, even on the back side it was just legs and back. Once turned over she was ready to finish with the HJ, put some oil on johnny and started stroking, without removing a single piece of clothing or allowing me to touch her, while her handjob skills were good it was not enough motivation for me, so I asked about touching her boobs, she asked for money in return, I promised her the tip that I was going to give her anyways, and with some motivation I finished with the HJ, got showered, had some chit chat she again asked why not boom boom, I said maybe later but asked her about the cost out of curiosity, she mentioned 518k. Handed her a 50, and paid the counter amount while leaving.
While I was moving towards the exit having no intention of returning back, I thought why not check out the other stores too, and so I did first Glow and then followed by Mango, I just wanted to gather info. From the counter and leave, these 2 were significantly different than Wijaya-57, they had everything on the menu written outright there were bunch of abbreviations for each package, Glow starting with 330 k - 50 mins, this had something about girl being topless, BJ, CIM but no massage, I am not sure they mean the same CIM as we do but if it is then it could be worth checking out as some of the girls in pics were hot and both Glow and Mango had many more options than Wijaya, they showed me at least 10-15 girls in photos. There was an option of 'all in' which I have learnt means FS in massage parlance here. That had a price tag of 440 k. Once again these are small shops / a bit sleazy even for the lack of a better word and they don't compare even remotely with the standards of Classic and other places that we talk about but CIM is rare even in Indo, I didn't read it in any of the reports and I am doing CBJ in all places, topic of CIM has never come up yet. They had bunch of other abbreviations on the menu like CK and what not, which I didn't understand but I have taken numbers of both places and read through their packages well, they were kind enough to share all information requested.
On my way back I saw Delta spa and one more next to it (Fenix or something, don't recall the name) both 2-3 floor sized buildings, Delta I remember has been discussed on this forum as a high cost option, but the building looks shabby from outside in comparison with venues like Classic, Empo, or Malio etc.
At last I scored a good session at Classic's. No problem with doggystyle. The girl had a shaven pussy. Maybe in the future I should ask mamasan for girls with a shaven pussy. They are more likely to be minimally more experienced than girls with a bush.
The condom broke. I made the mistake of trying out a Vivo 0.01 "non-latex". This condom is a scam. It is in no way "non-latex", it's latex allright, latex that breaks easily.
While I was waiting for the taxi outside Classic, guys (pimps? Brothers? Husbands? Just motocycle taxis?) kept bringing in girls. They kept coming in in twos and threes on each bike, I'd say at the rate of 5 girls a minute. Wow. At that rate Classic would soon have 100+ girls.
I took a ride to Taman Anggrek. Traffic was at a standstill most of the way. One third of the way to my destination I had to step out of the taxi in one of the alleys to have a pee. Do not drink abundantly before a taxi ride in Jakarta because you never know how long the ride will last.
Twenty years ago Taman Anggrek, a shopping mall inaugurated by Suharto, had dazzled me by its spendour. Now it was just an empty shell. Time passes indeed.
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So taking Prep / Doxy / Acyclovir and Viagra and Tadafil on a regular basis have yet to have a detrimental effect on my liver or kidneys or anything.
Gabacho.I'm not sure Acyclovir can protect you from catching herpes simplex like doxocycline does for chlamydia and syphillis.
LetMeIn6969
01-22-25, 01:11
While I was on my SEA trip I took 100 MG Doxycycline everyday from August thru December while barebacking in Thailand, Philippines, and Jakarta.
Now that my trip is over I had full blood work done and the everything came back good. My doctor even was like HIV negative, Gonorrea negative, chlamydia negative, kidneys good, liver good, thyroid good.
One indicator of the liver called ALT was a little bit high at 52 as the range is supposed to be 9 - 48 according to Quest Diagnostics but my AST was 29 which is good, my alkaline phosphate was 63 which is good and my bilirubin total is 0. 8 which is also good. So he said my liver is functioning great and the ALT being a little high he said was probably from past alcohol drinking.
Also my absolute lymphocytes was right at 4000 which is like perfect and my blood platelets and red and white bloodcells were all good as well.
And my testosterone level was 311 (which I thought was on the lower side of the range) however, my doctor said that was prerty good for my age (almost 40).
So taking Prep / Doxy / Acyclovir and Viagra and Tadafil on a regular basis have yet to have a detrimental effect on my liver or kidneys or anything.
Gabacho.Would you mind telling me what your steps for taking these drugs? PREP 30 days before the trip then Doxy everyday during your trip; finally, PEP for 30 days after your trip? At Gabacho Mucho gracias!
While I was on my SEA trip I took 100 MG Doxycycline everyday from August thru December while barebacking in Thailand, Philippines, and Jakarta.
Now that my trip is over I had full blood work done and the everything came back good. My doctor even was like HIV negative, Gonorrea negative, chlamydia negative, kidneys good, liver good, thyroid good.
One indicator of the liver called ALT was a little bit high at 52 as the range is supposed to be 9 - 48 according to Quest Diagnostics but my AST was 29 which is good, my alkaline phosphate was 63 which is good and my bilirubin total is 0. 8 which is also good. So he said my liver is functioning great and the ALT being a little high he said was probably from past alcohol drinking.
Also my absolute lymphocytes was right at 4000 which is like perfect and my blood platelets and red and white bloodcells were all good as well.
And my testosterone level was 311 (which I thought was on the lower side of the range) however, my doctor said that was prerty good for my age (almost 40).
So taking Prep / Doxy / Acyclovir and Viagra and Tadafil on a regular basis have yet to have a detrimental effect on my liver or kidneys or anything.
Gabacho.Thank you for sharing that information Gabacho, it is definitely reassuring.
BenderOver
01-22-25, 07:32
Hi fellas, so I decided I will take one for the team (just joking) and went to checkout Maxwell yesterday, review follows:
BTW the rooms at Maxwell are top notch, they are very spacious have a TV running, bathroom is equipped with a bathtub, bed is pretty big. It is a cozy setup. This girl was very good in comparison, we took bath, she had some weird marks on her back (from neck till her ass in shape of bone outlines like somebody had beat her up) but she mentioned it is some Indonesian therapy. She was very nice in the sack, good 15-20 minutes DFK, did CBJ in a very submissive deepthroat position while I played with her V, didn't DATY her (wasn't that attracted to her), but she was good in service, fucked in 3 positions, had exit showers. I tipped her 50 k and she said more money? I just laughed it off and said ya ya everybody wants more money honey, now take a hike! LOL, but it she was a very good fix for the whole debacle earlier, mama also asked me on Whatsapp if this ladies was good, I confirmed and said thank you for the fix, she apologized for earlier issue, I said no problem and left for the night.If the marks are perfectly circular bruises 2 to 3 inches in diameter, it's cupping. If they're bruises 2" wide from spine it to ribcage both sides on the back at several starting points up and down the spine, it's scraping. Both are homeopathic detox therapies that I don't personally think offer any benefits but certainly uglies up the girl's back.
Did you choose CBJ or was that the only option available?
If the marks are perfectly circular bruises 2 to 3 inches in diameter, it's cupping. If they're bruises 2" wide from spine it to ribcage both sides on the back at several starting points up and down the spine, it's scraping. Both are homeopathic detox therapies that I don't personally think offer any benefits but certainly uglies up the girl's back.
Did you choose CBJ or was that the only option available?I think it was the latter, sort of like somebody wearing a skeleton printed t-shirt.
CBJ was my choice, but I didn't enquire about BBJ or BBBJ, but judging from the confused reaction of most girls here, when I ask to put condom first, I think most of them are ready for BBJ but don't expect anyone to do it covered, when I put cover on they get into a position of fucking (assuming I am ready to fuck), even this one stood in a doggy position when I asked her to put cover on.
I will be in Jakarta for a few days starting Jan 27th. I am sure I will try places like the Emporium and Classic -- thanks for all the reviews of those places.
But sometimes I just like to have a girl to my hotel for a couple hours or all night if it's going well. In Thailand, I just get on Thai Friendly and it's no problem. Or I'll call one of the many escort agencies, if I strike out on Thai Friendly.
Does Jakarta have a Thai friendly equivalent?
And could anyone suggest a decent escort agency? I went back a while and I see no mention of any.
BTW, I'm happy to provide info on Bangkok if anyone has questions. I live there now.
Captain Solo
01-23-25, 03:07
Terminal 2 on Classic hotel 2nd floor, had 7 groups of girls sitting on couches, about 20 girls in each, about half decent slim spinners.
Entry fee 3750 are or 20 cents, beers 44 K are or $3. 50, girls drinks are same prices as guys. Live band was playing very loud, guys were smoking heavily, not a very pleasant environment.
Mamasan ChaCha was very aggressive, took my arm to show off her.
" Baby Group" mostly young spinners. I ordered a beer, sat and looked. Chacha made girls stand and smile for a lineup, pushed a few girls on me. I finally invited Putri, a hot spinner from Jakarta, to sit, but she declined drinks.
Chacha insisted sex with condom, but BBBJ and DFK are OK. Session on site is 49 K are or $27 . We went to the room.
Putri squatted down in the shower and washed her pussy, not a very polished girl. She refused DFK but I did it anyway, kissing her all over, toying with her G spot. She took out a condom but I just went on top and penetrated BB her tight pussy, took some effort to get in.
I pumped her a while. She was passive not showing any passion. I took a whip of her crotch, detected fishy odors which killed my mood. I pumped her quickly to get off, CIP.
Not A sensuous session. She did not ask for tip; I would not give one anyway. Will try another girl, get her drunk first. Classic 2 is the easiest and cheapest venue in Asia with decent girls.
Hotel 49 K are or $27 a night incl decent buffet breakfast, booked via Agoda. Half dozen Japan / Korea AYCE grills and shabus within walking distance, $5-10, bring your own booze.
KrisMonger
01-23-25, 07:50
I will be in Jakarta for a few days starting Jan 27th. I am sure I will try places like the Emporium and Classic -- thanks for all the reviews of those places.
But sometimes I just like to have a girl to my hotel for a couple hours or all night if it's going well. In Thailand, I just get on Thai Friendly and it's no problem. Or I'll call one of the many escort agencies, if I strike out on Thai Friendly.
Does Jakarta have a Thai friendly equivalent?
And could anyone suggest a decent escort agency? I went back a while and I see no mention of any.
BTW, I'm happy to provide info on Bangkok if anyone has questions. I live there now.Use Devzoki or tinder. You will be pretty happy.
I have decided to spend the last 3 days of my vacation at Classic, won't go into too much details just brief highlights as everyone on this forum is aware of Classic SOP, and the hit and miss that you may have with the girls.
Did 2 rounds yesterday:
1. First girl I chose in a little bit of haste and once off the dark lights, I realized that I didn't like her that much, her approach was also tentative and she wasn't fully giving into the act, so I did my usual stuff and since I wasn't much turned on by her and what she was doing, I decided to take a little different route, I went in with the HJ route, she wasn't too good at it either so I decided to take matter into my own hands (literally and figuratively), and as a twist to the climax I asked her about CIM, she hesitated ofc, but then saw a window to get tip, I said ok, her only concern was don't do it on my face (make-up worries), I assured her that definitely wasn't my intention (hehe), she had braces so I had to be careful, I threw the condom away and only pressed tip of Johnny inside to ensure complete CIM, she wasn't a swallower (rare to find those), but did ok with it, showered and matter concluded with a 50 k tip, I would have tipped more if our experience would have been better and CIM would have been the cherry on the cake, but rest of the experience was meh.
2. This girl was tallish and had a great figure, she was also a little tentative to begin with but her figure was turning me on, she insisted on doing BBJ as she doesn't like the taste and feel of rubber, so I took that liberty this day, she did her listerine routine before taking it in and did a fine job doing it, I had sanitizer with me (with 90%+alcohol) so cleaned johnny with it after, after this she immediately wanted to fuck, but I told her to wait, I wanted to appreciate her body first, she had fantastic boobs (a perfect handful and youthfully tight), she slowly started to get into the act, going down slowly, I got my claws in, this got her in the game finally, she was literally fucking herself on my fingers (hip thrusting back and forth), I playfully bit her ass also after some time, while this was going on she licked and played with my nips too, this was finally the time that we got in a passionate kiss (whole process continued for 15 odd minutes), till she was fully wet and had her final vibrations (she was holding on to my fingers very tight with both legs fully closing any space inbetween to ensure she could get the maximum squeeze, this finally got my Johnny running for the fences, so we fucked in 3 positions I took my sweet time delaying the climax, but released in doggy after 20 odd minutes of play. Tipped her a 50 k too, exchanged numbers and she is pinging to be at my hotel from yesterday night, but I probably won't do that. Once we came up all lights were on and it was Classic closing time (3 am), all the girls were leaving along with me.
I really liked on other girl while a line-up of girls passed by, unfortunately the customer for whom the lineup went by also selected her, but I couldn't get my eyes off her so had to chase her around, Even after asking couple of times I couldn't get her name right. Luckily while heading out I again saw her dressed in everyday clothes, and asked her for phone number but there were many people around including club staff so she gave me her mama's number. Hope I get to meet her tonight (chances are slim, since I dont have her name but lets see).
BTW I went to the golf course today to check things out, wanted to experience playing golf for a long time now, but don't have any feasible options back home. This one was in Kemayoran area, the pricing is slightly high i.e 1. 3 m (different rates for Monday, Tue-Thu, Friday and weekends), I wasn't carrying enough cash so I will go there again tomorrow. Price break-up goes this way 586 k (For Friday) for the game / or 4 hour experience (this is what the receiptionist told me), 234 k for the Caddie, 300 k for renting the clubs and mandatory tip of 300 k to caddie (I don't like this mandatory tipping part) but the overall experience costs 1. 3 m on a Friday, there were 2 areas that I saw people playing one was a straight ground with large nets on the side (so ball doesn't go out) and another one was a proper golf course with varying ground level, sand patches etc. Not sure which one do we get for the price, the straight one didn't look exciting BTW.
Went to Fashion Hotel at 20:30, first to the spa.
The place where the girls are seems more like a club, with little light and loud music. There were about 18 girls in 3 price ranges: 700,900 k and 1050 k. Picked a girl for 700, because she seemed to have the best body. But when she sat at my side I realized she had bad skin, which was impossible to see before because of the poor lighting. And I didn't like that she would always put a hand in front of her mouth when she smiled. This is never a good sign, so I sent her away. After that, I decided to check the rest of fashion.
I paid my 150 k entrance fee and my drink to leave the spa and went to the club on the 10th floor. By the time it as 20:50 and there was nobody. The club only opens at 9 pm. On the other hand, it stays open till 4 am, on weekends till 5 am. 1,3 mio pays the company of one of the girls just while partying. If you want to take her home, it's 2,8 mio more. Makes a total of 4,1 mio. And the manager even explained that this is only for short time!! Crazy. This place is not going to see me again. While leaving, I saw 2 girls arriving. One might have been an 8, the other more like a 6.
They both allowed doggy, at the same time both adamantly refusing 69. The nay-saying about one thing or another puts a damper on the eagerness to try out new girls, which is a bit of pity given the quantity to choose from. While waiting for the girl to finish showering, I ask myself "what is it going to be this time?". So far I have 2 girls at Emporium's and 1 at Classic's who are yes-sayers.
Classic's Mamasans seemed more eager to show girls to some other customers than to me. This must be because I don't tip them. My stinginess towards Mamasans already went through the grapevine.
I saw one absolutely stunning girl (very tall and very nice face and body!) being brought to the table of two Asian men. Where did the mamasan get her from? I hadn't seen her sitting anywhere when I scanned the ranks. Is there a secret stash of such girls for selected customers?
Went to Fashion Hotel at 20:30, first to the spa.
The place where the girls are seems more like a club, with little light and loud music. There were about 18 girls in 3 price ranges: 700,900 k and 1050 k. Picked a girl for 700, because she seemed to have the best body. But when she sat at my side I realized she had bad skin, which was impossible to see before because of the poor lighting. And I didn't like that she would always put a hand in front of her mouth when she smiled. This is never a good sign, so I sent her away. After that, I decided to check the rest of fashion.
I paid my 150 k entrance fee and my drink to leave the spa and went to the club on the 10th floor. By the time it as 20:50 and there was nobody. The club only opens at 9 pm. On the other hand, it stays open till 4 am, on weekends till 5 am. 1,3 mio pays the company of one of the girls just while partying. If you want to take her home, it's 2,8 mio more. Makes a total of 4,1 mio. And the manager even explained that this is only for short time!! Crazy. This place is not going to see me again. While leaving, I saw 2 girls arriving. One might have been an 8, the other more like a 6.So this confirms what I heard from the manager or mama was right, I thought something was getting lost in translation, good thing I left before spending anything there, bullet dodged!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhI5noE8FY
This is a bunch of little bars with some girls sitting outside waiting for customers to pass by. I am sure there are some more girls inside. Never been here but know where it is. Far away and not so easy to get to. Being a white guy walking to get there everyone will know why I am there which is super awkward and being alone in such a secluded location where anything can happen is a no-no for me. Also, any money saved will be spent on transportation getting there and back to my hotel. I assume most the girls will not be interested in me like the rail road tracks. I assume foreign Asian guys will have a higher success rate but not sure how much better. Maybe next year I will check it out if I get bored and find a wingman for this location.Hey Mate, Thanks for sharing this video. I've passed through Cibitung station during the daytime but had no idea this place was here. I noticed that once you move beyond Jakarta's inner circle, the quality of places tends to decline in the outskirts even if the girls look good. There are similar spots in the narrow alleys of Bandung, but the room infrastructure is so poor that I chose not to partake. I'll be sure to check it out when I'm there next time.
Terminal 2 on Classic hotel 2nd floor, had 7 groups of girls sitting on couches, about 20 girls in each, about half decent slim spinners.
Entry fee 3750 are or 20 cents, beers 44 K are or $3. 50, girls drinks are same prices as guys. Live band was playing very loud, guys were smoking heavily, not a very pleasant environment.
Mamasan ChaCha was very aggressive, took my arm to show off her.
" Baby Group" mostly young spinners. I ordered a beer, sat and looked. Chacha made girls stand and smile for a lineup, pushed a few girls on me. I finally invited Putri, a hot spinner from Jakarta, to sit, but she declined drinks.
Chacha insisted sex with condom, but BBBJ and DFK are OK. Session on site is 49 K are or $27 . We went to the room.
Putri squatted down in the shower and washed her pussy, not a very polished girl. She refused DFK but I did it anyway, kissing her all over, toying with her G spot. She took out a condom but I just went on top and penetrated BB her tight pussy, took some effort to get in..Chacha is the pushiest and most aggressive MMS at Classic imo. I remember she kept on introducing girls to me and I didn't really pick anyone I fancied. Then I saw a girl from another MMS who I got talking to and no exaggeration there was almost a punchup between Chacha & this other MMS. I think she was accusing her of stealing her customer (ie. Me) and she was none too happy about that.
They both allowed doggy, at the same time both adamantly refusing 69. The nay-saying about one thing or another puts a damper on the eagerness to try out new girls, which is a bit of pity given the quantity to choose from. While waiting for the girl to finish showering, I ask myself "what is it going to be this time?". So far I have 2 girls at Emporium's and 1 at Classic's who are yes-sayers.
Classic's Mamasans seemed more eager to show girls to some other customers than to me. This must be because I don't tip them. My stinginess towards Mamasans already went through the grapevine.
I saw one absolutely stunning girl (very tall and very nice face and body!) being brought to the table of two Asian men. Where did the mamasan get her from? I hadn't seen her sitting anywhere when I scanned the ranks. Is there a secret stash of such girls for selected customers?There's a changing room behind the cashier area (the door is literally to the right of where you pay the exit fee) and there are more girls in there in the back that you can't see.
One day when I went early and I didn't see anything I really liked, one of the mamasans went in the changing room and brought out 19 year old Lala who turned out to be fantastic booth in looks and performance.
Went to Fashion Hotel at 20:30, first to the spa.
And I didn't like that she would always put a hand in front of her mouth when she smiled. This is never a good sign, so I sent her away.
Maybe, but note that this is quite common in at least some asian countries. In Thailand, if you see girls doing this while in public it's usually a sign of a slightly above average upbringing.
I paid my 150 k entrance fee and my drink to leave the spa and went to the club on the 10th floor. By the time it as 20:50 and there was nobody. The club only opens at 9 pm. On the other hand, it stays open till 4 am, on weekends till 5 am. 1,3 mio pays the company of one of the girls just while partying. If you want to take her home, it's 2,8 mio more. Makes a total of 4,1 mio. And the manager even explained that this is only for short time!! Crazy. This place is not going to see me again. While leaving, I saw 2 girls arriving. One might have been an 8, the other more like a 6.Ugh, that does not sound good at all. Thanks for reporting.
Classic's Mamasans seemed more eager to show girls to some other customers than to me. This must be because I don't tip them. My stinginess towards Mamasans already went through the grapevine.
LOL. I doubt it, as I only tipped one mamasan during my 12-15 Classic visits, and that was one of my last days to a mamasan (Chacha) that I did not see again during my stay, because I went to Classic earlier than she started working. Just because I thought she was the only half-decent human amongst the mamasans there, though I see others here had a different experience with her.
I saw one absolutely stunning girl (very tall and very nice face and body!) being brought to the table of two Asian men. Where did the mamasan get her from? I hadn't seen her sitting anywhere when I scanned the ranks. Is there a secret stash of such girls for selected customers?Probably somebody who had recently returned from somewhere (another customer, bathroom, changing room, wherever). If you can remember / recognize the mamasan that brought her, you could of course try describing the girl to her next time, and I'm sure she'll bring her to you if she understands who you mean.
Use Devzoki or tinder. You will be pretty happy.Prices on Devzoki seem a bit. Over the top no? 1 hour 100-200 USD that's crazy to me or is that the norm?
I have no experience regarding Jakarta yet.
Captain Solo
01-24-25, 01:29
Day time went to Chinatown for lunch at a couple places. Sampled street food and fruits at markets. Food was greasy but good.
Went back to the huge National Mosque and the equally huge Orthodox church but with taller bell tower across the treet. Grabbikes are cheap, about $1 a ride everywhere. Traffic was very bad. Dust and smoke blew hard. In the filthy sewage canals blackened with waste there were people wading, swimming, catching fish. The poverty and hardship here is very sad. Streets around the mosque and main bus terminal were packed with little food stalls all night.
Went back to Classic to party, over 100 girls lounging on couches, some sleeping or dozing off. Chacha was walking around spraying air freshener on them. They look pretty bad under the bright unflattering lights showing lots of skin blemishes like pale sides of beef. They were mostly small girls but I did not see a single pretty face. They would look more appealing in soft indirect dance floor lighting.
In contrary most Asian girls in Sydney were tall, slim, nice, clean with pretty faces worthy of movie stars. Chacha was pushing girls on me aggressively but I did not feel the passion so just drank all night.
Met a fun Aussie surfer named Andy, facebook KRUI SURFING COMMUNITY. He has been living here 15 years and knows all workers at Classic. He was drinking heavily and popping girls all night. 5 AM he staggered out of the club, carrying 5 large Bintang beer bottles to feed security guys at Classics front gate. What a fun and sexy life.
Day 1 - session 2.
Delayed by a few days. Detailed field report on classic T5.
Based on the reports on ISG, I decided to visit classic terminal five post 5 PM and actually reached at 6:30 pm.
First impression- this place is massive and blows the Sopies of Thailand out of the water in terms of sheer size and the number of girls. I was not even there during peak hours so I can't even imagine what this place looks like when full.
Being so early, only about 30 girls were there at the time. Counting myself there were probably 10 customers. May be 5 or so Koreans or East Asians and couple of locals. The emptiness of this arena just didn't feel right.
Within the first 10 minutes of entering the place, I was greeted by two mamasans back to back. They weren't pushy and just left me alone when I said I wanted to walk around and see since this is my first time. After that, they left me alone and did not even ask me to buy any drinks.
I walked close to the fish bowls to take a closeup look at the girls. I wanted to bang indo looking girls and not Thai looking. I immediately had a liking to a young girl but her mamasan was nowhere to be found. One thing I did not like is the fact that mamasans are totally not helpful when you ask for a girl that does not belong to her team. May be they need to have some type of floor manager to make this work. Otherwise it is just irritating for newbies to wonder where that person is.
After a 10 min wait, I was able to find the mamasan and I sorted out the formalities to take the girl. First, I asked the girl to come sit with me in a sofa all the way in the back. Spent some 10-15 minutes with her and though she had zero English skills, she was quite friendly to touch and smiled for just about everything. At that time I did not know how great this girl was going to be. She wore a single piece dress but really tight fitting so when she was climbing up or down, the way her ass jiggled was an awesome sight to see.
I chose this girl named Niha, who looked exotic in the sense that she looked different. It's like in Thailand you can say a girl is from Isaan region by her looks. I believe this girl is from such a place because she stood out. Her mama's name was Rizi or Riza.
The room was quite clean and had a decent shower. As always I like the room not very dark, so left the lights as is. Niha had a banging young body. She responded very well and got turned on immediately after I started sucking her perky boobs. My hands wandered to her pussy and started rubbing it slowly which caused her to moan a little bit. I was worried she would ask me to stop as girls don't like being fingered much but she was enjoying it and slowly I had about 2 fingers in and she had a good amount of natural lube that made it easier. All the while I was sucking her nipples alternatively and her moans only became louder. I got a little bit greedy and started rubbing her butthole. To my surprise, she did not mind at all when I slowly stick a tip of my finger inside. With her eyes closed and arching back, she was taking it nicely inside. Within a few minutes I was knuckle deep inside her asshole and she was clean like a clock down there and enjoying it like anything. All this time I had a finger from my left hand inside her pussy. I have never done this in life before to be honest. This was a dream come true for me. I slowly increased the pace and the girl just kept rocking her body and moaning all the time and did not even ask me to slow down or stop. Only until I got tired, I pulled the fingers out of both her holes, went to the shower, washed my hands with soap and came back to her. In fact she could have lasted for a very long time with fingering alone. She was smiling and started playing with my cock. At this point, the girl basically was ready to do as told. I fucked her in missionary for some time giving some dry kisses and turned her around to do lazy dog which is my favorite position. After a few minutes of pounding I pulled the rubber out and came all over her plumpy youthful ass.
Nothing was rushed by the girl and after a very long time I enjoyed a nice butthole session. Fingering both holes crossed off my bucket list too! The girl, the body, her age, her cooperation etc all made this one extremely memorable session for life.
After a slow shower together, got dressed and tipped her 300 k. Yes she was super happy about it and I told myself I am coming back to see this girl again for sure but unfortunately it did not happen since Jakarta again wowed me with another great experience at Malio.
Neither mamasan or the girl asked for tips. I did not tip the mama or someone who brought my juice. The girl did not want to drink anything even though I asked her through the translator multiple times. Very surprising indeed.
Total damage - 700 k -800 k incl the 300 k lady tips.
Extremely satisfied!
For fuck sake, Why does my best experience always happen too late when I have a flight to catch early morning? I came back to the hotel from Malio and hit the bed at 2 am and had to wake up around 5 am to catch a flight.
In Summer 2024 my best time was in Windmill and it was well past 12 am and I had to leave from the hotel at 4:30 am and so either I had to barfine my hot find and do an all-nighter and rush to the airport with no sleep or skip fucking an extremely affable and young thing. In my 20's or 30's I would have chosen the first option. But not anymore. I chose the second option and still regret to this day.
Anyways, back to Malio!
Malio. I don't know if it's called the club or the lounge and it really doesn't matter. It's the one with hot white chicks. You can move back and forth between the two any number of times you want as other posters have mentioned here. It's the same building with one exit, and there are many staff to assist you and show the directions.
I spent a good 90 minutes before choosing a girl.
The lower floor bar has no white chicks, and only local girls wearing see through dresses. The girls quoted 3-4 M, yes you read that right! For that price you are getting a 6-7 at best, many in 5-6 scale. I bought a few LDs for 66 k each and sent them off since none were to my liking. The hottest girls here were comparable to the hottest girls in KI or Classic. So fuck the 8 x prices. And the dark surroundings and loud music. Guys selecting chicks here are doing without getting proper looks at them because the sofa areas are so dark. I don't even know why I stayed here for half hour. You can see the boobies and nipples and their entire bodies clearly though unlike the upper floor where the girls are elegantly dressed like going to a high end party.
But upstairs, the story is a bit different. Here the prices are clearly set when the mamasans walk to you, ask for your drink order and explain the 1. 2, 1. 8 and 3. 1 M tiers.
I spent a good hour or so here. The place was extremely well lit which I like and live music wasn't so loud at all. Not too crowded and mostly Asian or local customers. At any given time no more than 20 customers and half of them just drinking and bored while the other half is quick to ask for a lineup and dash to the rooms.
The girls. Most were good looking, probably a bit taller than classic girls, with whiter skin. Still I don't think 1. 2 or 1. 8 is worth spending here unless you specifically prefer the taller and whiter skins. They were in the 6-7 scale and probably one 9 which was absolutely stunning. A Chinese or Vietnamese may be but she had implants which I hate so I waited. I almost chose her until something else caught my mind.
I actually went here to only bang Asian chicks, but after a while my attention turned towards the 15 or so white girls just because I haven't fucked one in a very long time. Some of the girls were quite hot looking from a distance. Since the floor was so well lit it was very helpful. I spent a good 15 minutes scoping them out and shortlisting my top three. The girls were mostly talking to themselves, watching phones and sipping whatever they drink. Some looked bored while others listening to music or playing on iPads etc.
Meanwhile, other mongers had also requested the white girl lineups and I was able to see them faces and bodies and body language much better. There were a few very good looking girls. And by that I mean, solid 8's and one girl who just came back from fucking an Asian could be a 9 with a beautiful sexy face, slim waist and blue eyes just totally fuckable. Most girls in their 20's, mostly bleached blonde hair, pure white skin, no tans, no tattoos that I could see, all in good shape except the tallest one who had tummy sticking out like a sore thumb. Unlike the Asian chicks who wore beautiful gowns, the CIS girls are wearing varied outfits.
I am comparing them to the hottest strippers in the US strip clubs. Not the cheap trashy ones you see near the inner city hoods. Or they could be similar tot the varsity coeds playing softball or volleyball. I have never mongered in Europe so I have only the stripper scale and coed scale to compare.
As usual, the mamasans weren't helpful when I asked for a lineup because they apparently belonged to a Papasan. So after the second try, the Papasan came and spoke to me in length. I told him about my dislike for implants. He said none of the white chicks had implants. That was reassuring, but I did notice one or two had lip fillers.
I asked the Papasan for a lineup and immediately the 15 girls surrounded my table. It was an absolute fucking sight to behold! A dozen or so gorgeous girls looking at you straight in the eye asking you to choose them!
For 3. 1 M all in, this is one of the best values for money. Yes, I truly feel that way. Young, hot white girls command good prices anywhere in the world. And the ability to pick and choose in this easy, professional, safe and comfortable setting must be appreciated! I don't know where else you have this setup for CIS or European chicks in Asia and if you do please PM me or share here. I am NOT interested in pickup clubs or free lancers. Hate that shit, I love the fish bowl selection process. Quick, simple and effective. No bull shit talks or drinks and wandering around in dark clubs with ear piercing music.
For those who either don't want to travel to EU / CSI countries or are bored of banging Asian chicks, this is a great option for sure!
Even though I went to Malio hell bent on banging a hot Indo or Viet chick, I ended up choosing a white girl for the difference and value it offered. Though the overall bill was much higher which I will explain later. Not due to the club but by my own free will.
To get to see a lineup of young hot white girls and get to choose the one you like, then get to sit and drink with them and a little chit chat and then bang them in a decent room is amazing!
So was the actual experience in the room, again a very lucky encounter to remember for a very long time! Some hiccups due to my dick not cooperating towards the end but still I had a good time. Detailed report on that to follow.
I couldn't get the one girl from day before yesterday out of my mind, so I had decided to find her (I had her number, but it was to no avail), spend some time with her and spend 1 more hour with another faviorite girl of mine. But these girls don't carry their phones with them while working. Luckily I remembered the mama that had brought the line-up to another customer in which I noticed her.
This mama was also hard to find as she was not one of the pushy ones or one who approached me upfront, anyways she came to a nearby table to show line-up that is when I showed the girl name and number to her, she confirmed that the girl is in room with another customer and that I could wait if I want her. The wait time turned out to be 2 hours apparently, I was getting tired just guzzling beers and looking around, my goal was to get out of the place early but my patience paid off and she finally did bring the girl who I wasn't even sure because there are so many common names. Perhaps it was the waiting time and me obsessing over her but I really felt happy seeing her, we talked for a while, she seemed to be disconnecting in between conversations, I felt something was off but dismissed it as her being shy. Once mama came around she offered me to take her to my hotel (I was surprised to hear mama offering this) but I had checked this with the girl before mama came and she was like maybe tomorrow, so finally we settled at 2 hours with her at Classic (I thought it would go till closing hours as it was already 12.45 am). 2 hours doesn't have any discount tag and costs straight up (365*2=730 k), mama also asked for a tip of 1 bundle I. E. 35 k, I hesitated as I am not accustomed to tipping mamas, so she went away but later thought that she did bring me the girl that I wanted so called her back, said sorry and gave her the 35 k, this made her happy and then there were laughs and giggles.
Onto the room, this girl was very sweet and delicate like a barbie doll, so I was being very careful with her, she confirmed her age was 22, we had some sweet kissing moments, but she seemed to be scared of something throughout the interaction and she was avoiding eye contact, I played some songs on my phone, we danced for a bit (I am a very poor dancer) but thought it would loosen her up a bit, we showered together and I could see her amateur hands wandering about very tentatively on my body. Once onto the bed we started with kissing again and she was very soft and delicate as mentioned before, so I was taking confirmation for every action and although she was saying yes, I could sense reluctance in her body language. Once I started caressing her pussy, that is when she started shaking and trembling but not in a sexual way, but in a way that she was afraid. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that this girl has gone through some trauma, my desire for sex had gone out of the window by now and was instead replaced with concern. I stopped proceeding ahead, just laid there waiting for her to react something but she was quiet as a mouse, I got up and indicated her that should I get dressed? Her initial reaction was why? I told her that she seemed to be too scared and I don't want to make things worse for her.
She seemed to be lost in thought, I started dressing up, I assured her that I won't complain to mama and instead we could just spend some time in the room before the clock runs out, asked her if we can order food or drinks in room, she said no, we got dressed up but there were still 45 minutes to kill, so I told her that she could sleep, we both laid on the bed fully clothed, asked to rest her head on my shoulder while being enveloped in my arm, I kept playing and singing some romantic songs on my phone in a soft volume (which I am sure were alien to her), played game on my phone while doing this, woke her up at 2. 45 am, told her it was time to go. I know this goes against the mongering instincts, but I thought it was more important to be supporting shoulder in this instance.
Once I reached my room, surprisingly I started getting messages from her on Whatsapp, her first message was 'forgive me', She later apologized for disappointing me etc. I assured her that it was ok, later she admitted that she had been through a traumatic experience earlier that day and also had a rude customer just before me, we chatted for about half an hour, it was getting late so called it a night.
I think it was the latter, sort of like somebody wearing a skeleton printed t-shirt.
CBJ was my choice, but I didn't enquire about BBJ or BBBJ, but judging from the confused reaction of most girls here, when I ask to put condom first, I think most of them are ready for BBJ but don't expect anyone to do it covered, when I put cover on they get into a position of fucking (assuming I am ready to fuck), even this one stood in a doggy position when I asked her to put cover on.I may have had the same girl. Was this the girl?
I may have had the same girl. Was this the girl?Yes marks were exactly like this, but I am not sure about the girl.
The one I got was a 30 year old girl with a kid and divorced (just sharing so you can identify with other attributes, don't remember her name), reports to mama Angel (BTW she follows up with me everyday to come to Maxwell).
Day 1 - session 2.
Delayed by a few days. Detailed field report on classic T5.
Based on the reports on ISG, I decided to visit classic terminal five post 5 PM and actually reached at 6:30 pm.
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Total damage - 700 k -800 k incl the 300 k lady tips.
Extremely satisfied!Great report! So T5 is already doable as early as 6:30 pm. Good to know! Total damage with tips around 800 k, does this means the asking price is in the same ballpark as at T2?
Great report! So T5 is already doable as early as 6:30 pm. Good to know! Total damage with tips around 800 k, does this means the asking price is in the same ballpark as at T2?Actually I paid only 365 k in T2 in another encounter for which I haven't written a FR yet.
Total was around 420 k included tips. That's all I paid in T2.
I have no idea for what reason the prices are different. There could be many factors such as time of the day, tier of girls etc.
But I found mamasans extremely aggressive in T2 compared to T5. Day and night difference! Girl quality was the same.
In T5 the girls are sitting under really bright white lights so you can go to the front and see their faces very clearly which to me is extremely important. T2 on the other hand was slightly dimmer with warm yellow lights along the edges where the girls are seated in the sofas.
Finding a good girl at Classic's is no problem. Having a good session at Classic's is a different kettle of fish. Today the girl accepted 69 but only for a very short time, after which she wriggled out of it. She proceeded to give me an ok blowjob but insisted on putting on the condom before my cock was hard enough.
Rather than risk another so-so session at Classic's I decided to "finish the viagra" at Emporium's. Emporium's Diva was my 3rd Emporium girl. She was good. First-rate blowjob, no problem with any position. Karin and Novi had been good too. Three out of three girls, 100%. As far as I'm concerned the price differential between Emporium and Classic has been worth it. It is however not out of the question for my predilection for taller girls being more of a game-changer fetish for me than I have been hitherto aware. All these my 3 Emporium girls have been "taller" girls. And the only girl who worked 100% for me at Classic's was among Classic's tallest: she was not working today, mamasan gave me her Whatsapp so that I can liaise about when she'll be available again.
I just got a list from Sari of all the girls that are working today at Emporium. 47 in total. Impressive! V is VIP 1,43 Mio.
ABSENSI THERAPIST.
JUMAT, 24 JANUARI 2025.
G. Locker: 8.
T. Vcr: 8.
V: 24.
V 355 Tari.
V 000 Novi.
V 329 Nabila.
V 312 Neli.
V 332 Meysha.
V 356 Michele.
V 344 Sila.
V 345 Nada.
V 222 Niki.
V 352 Carisa.
V 325 Selly.
V 318 Pingkan.
V 311 Hanna.
V 304 Lulu.
V 317 Reva.
V 335 Jenifer.
V 327 Lili.
V 320 Sona.
V 360 Bulan.
V 354 Vanesa.
V 343 Via.
V 303 Kenzi.
V 363 Aletha.
V 331 Karin.
Be: 23.
Be 115 Diva.
Be 166 Ginsa.
Be 107 Raya.
Be 142 Jihan.
Be 118 Naura.
Be 148 Nana.
Be 163 Melisa.
Be 132 Sekar.
Be 152 Nindi.
Be 120 Nadin.
Be 168 Rosa.
Be 113 Feni.
Be 105 Tasya.
Be 136 Velis.
Be 135 Monic.
Be 156 Berlin.
Be 154 Agnes.
Be 157 Cecil.
Be 117 Lea.
Be 123 Laura.
Be 143 Salsa.
Be 138 Clara.
Be 110 Ayumi.
Total: 47 Therapist.
KrisMonger
01-24-25, 12:21
Prices on Devzoki seem a bit. Over the top no? 1 hour 100-200 USD that's crazy to me or is that the norm?
I have no experience regarding Jakarta yet.100/200 bucks for 2-3 hours in your room ain't bad.
I just got a list from Sari of all the girls that are working today at Emporium. 47 in total. Impressive! V is VIP 1,43 Mio.
ABSENSI THERAPIST..Kkkkkk. And now? With a pay-back card you pay less?
MohdirFan82
01-24-25, 16:41
Alomost all girls at Classic are there for money, Indon have genetically built in ability to feel victom. Girls look to work at classic cause its easy money, So she made easy money by making you feel victom of trauma. Brothels are not the place to feel bad for girls, you are their to have good time. You paid for sex instead you turned into nice guy.
I bet after making you fool she called her favorite client and fuck the hell of him or her boyfriend.
No one is holding girls hostage, or at gun point to work here. Next time, take girl first for short time, and get your deed done and start a fling with girl if she provided great service.
I couldn't get the one girl from day before yesterday out of my mind, so I had decided to find her (I had her number, but it was to no avail), spend some time with her and spend 1 more hour with another faviorite girl of mine. But these girls don't carry their phones with them while working. Luckily I remembered the mama that had brought the line-up to another customer in which I noticed her.
This mama was also hard to find as she was not one of the pushy ones or one who approached me upfront, anyways she came to a nearby table to show line-up that is when I showed the girl name and number to her, she confirmed that the girl is in room with another customer and that I could wait if I want her. The wait time turned out to be 2 hours apparently, I was getting tired just guzzling beers and looking around, my goal was to get out of the place early but my patience paid off and she finally did bring the girl who I wasn't even sure because there are so many common names. Perhaps it was the waiting time and me obsessing over her but I really felt happy seeing her, we talked for a while, she seemed to be disconnecting in between conversations, I felt something was off but dismissed it as her being shy. Once mama came around she offered me to take her to my hotel (I was surprised to hear mama offering this) but I had checked this with the girl before mama came and she was like maybe tomorrow, so finally we settled at 2 hours with her at Classic (I thought it would go till closing hours as it was already 12.45 am)..
Alomost all girls at Classic are there for money, Indon have genetically built in ability to feel victom. Girls look to work at classic cause its easy money, So she made easy money by making you feel victom of trauma. Brothels are not the place to feel bad for girls, you are their to have good time. You paid for sex instead you turned into nice guy.
I bet after making you fool she called her favorite client and fuck the hell of him or her boyfriend.
No one is holding girls hostage, or at gun point to work here. Next time, take girl first for short time, and get your deed done and start a fling with girl if she provided great service."Almost all"? You mean there are some who are not there for money, but instead are there because they can't get enough dick in their life otherwise?
I'm sure bad stuff happens to these girls sometimes. Classic is not the place for girls to invent trauma, and my bet is on something happening to this girl.
He was not made a fool, but rather did a good thing. Probably better than most of us would have done. ArnoldNe, my respect, and drinks on me if we ever happen to be in Jakarta / Classic at the same time.
MohdirFan82
01-24-25, 21:16
Been loyal custumer of classic for past 12 years, I have seen and heared everything. Pardon my English Grammer as English is not my first language.
Almost all girls at classic are at there at their will cause spreading legs for an hour is better than working 10 to 12 hours odd job, there are some who use classic as stepping stone to go abroad, Tempary in between jobs, paying off brother or father debt or run away from home.
How many girls at the bars, clubs, online told you painful traumatic stories? They all have stories cooked up for you feel bad for them, squeeze money without putting any work.
I work 8 to 10 hours a day on my feet, at the end of the day I barely can stand and in pain from hard work, I earn my money very very hard way.
More power you OP giving his money away for free cause some working girl initially agreed to have sex, and later express her traumatic past.
"Almost all"? You mean there are some who are not there for money, but instead are there because they can't get enough dick in their life otherwise?
I'm sure bad stuff happens to these girls sometimes. Classic is not the place for girls to invent trauma, and my bet is on something happening to this girl.
He was not made a fool, but rather did a good thing. Probably better than most of us would have done. ArnoldNe, my respect, and drinks on me if we ever happen to be in Jakarta / Classic at the same time.
Captain Solo
01-25-25, 01:58
Day time went to Chinatown for lunch at a couple places. Sampled street food and fruits at markets. Food was greasy but good.
Went back to the huge National Mosque and the equally huge Orthodox church but with taller bell tower across the treet. Grabbikes are cheap, about $1 a ride everywhere. Traffic was very bad. Dust and smoke blew hard. In the filthy sewage canals blackened with waste there were people wading, swimming, catching fish. The poverty and hardship here is very sad. Streets around the mosque and main bus terminal were packed with little food stalls all night.
Went back to Classic to party, over 100 girls lounging on couches, some sleeping or dozing off. Chacha was walking around spraying air freshener on them. They look pretty bad under the bright unflattering lights showing lots of skin blemishes like pale sides of beef. They were mostly small girls but I did not see a single pretty face. They would look more appealing in soft indirect dance floor lighting. Counted only a dozen guys, about 1/3 last year. Business seemed very slow.
Found a tall, slinky blonde, walking around, smiling, flirting. Picked her but she said going out with customer. Old men were dining with sweet, young girls in the steakhouse on ground floor.
In contrary most Asian girls in Sydney were tall, slim, nice, clean with pretty faces worthy of movie stars. Chacha was pushing girls on me aggressively but I did not feel the passion so just drank all night.
Met a fun Aussie surfer named Andy, facebook KRUI SURFING COMMUNITY. He has been living here 15 years and knows all workers at Classic. He was drinking heavily and popping girls all night. 5 AM he staggered out of the club, carrying 5 large Bintang beer bottles to feed security guys at Classics front gate. What a fun and sexy life.
I knew 8:30 pm was too early but I availed myself of the good BATS pizza. Food as I remembered had always been good at BATS. Alas two hours later I still saw no more than 5-6 MILFs, so I decided to leave. No staying up until all hours for me, thank you. While waiting for the taxi I saw another 8 or so MILFs arrive. MILFs are not on my to-do list in Jakarta. I'm up to my neck in MILFs in Thailand already. Poor sightings for a Friday. My impression is that BATS is no longer half as popular with girls as it used to be. Not many normal customers either, come to that. The glamourous Shangri-La lobby felt empty. Is Shangri-La going down? The location is even worse than it was because of new building sites. The traffic jams during office hours must be awful around here.
I stayed here a couple of times at Shangri-La in the first decade of the century. I was getting superb long-stay deals, with breakfast + 2 pieces of laundry a day thrown in. Of course in those days the Euro was kicking the Dollar's ass. This helped make deals look good.
That sounds about right for Tinder. SA is $200 and above. Course the hotter the more expensive. I am hearing lot of men from Singapore come to Jakarta on weekends to sex. Driving up prices.
But of course YMMV. If you are somewhat attractive and white, its much easier to pick up at a bar / club. Or if you read the forum there are many stories of men picking up civvies. All lasses want is nice dinner and to treated w / respect. Good lucks!
Prices on Devzoki seem a bit. Over the top no? 1 hour 100-200 USD that's crazy to me or is that the norm?
I have no experience regarding Jakarta yet.
Irish Mongrel
01-25-25, 08:08
Has anybody on here ever tried this site for a pick-up (https://sanggadis.com/). Girls look top notch, just wondering how much editing there is. Looks more focused for Indonesians as site is in Bahasa but good old automatic translation works wonders, and certainly not for the Classic regulars, but it may offer something for those that may want to play in the high-price end of town.
You need to pay to access the main escort list, only get access to independent escorts with initial registration. Some interestring rates for 1 hour.
BrandNewMonge
01-25-25, 19:49
she was afraid. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that this girl has gone through some trauma, my desire for sex had gone out of the window by now and was instead replaced with concern. I stopped proceeding ahead, just laid there waiting for her to react something but she was quiet as a mouse, I got up and indicated her that should I get dressed? Her initial reaction was why? I told her that she seemed to be too scared and I don't want to make things worse for her.
She seemed to be lost in thought, I started dressing up, I assured her that I won't complain to mama and instead we could just spend some time in the room before the clock runs out, asked her if we can order food or drinks in room, she said no, we got dressed up but there were still 45 minutes to kill, so I told her that she could sleep, we both laid on the bed fully clothed, asked to rest her head on my shoulder while being enveloped in my arm, I kept playing and singing some romantic songs on my phone in a soft volume (which I am sure were alien to her), played game on my phone while doing this, woke her up at 2. 45 am, told her it was time to go. I know this goes against the mongering instincts, but I thought it was more important to be supporting shoulder in this instance.
Huge respect to you for handling this the way you did. At the end of the day we have to remember all of us are humans after all.
NoGermaphobe
01-25-25, 21:48
Found a tall, slinky blonde, walking around, smiling, flirting. Picked her but she said going out with customer.The "going out with customer" or "waiting customer" is just a polite way for them to say they won't go with you.
I had two ladies from Classic last month tell me this. They were both from the first couch on the right immediately upon entering. One that told me something similar meets your description. A blonde hardbody named Risma who almost always shows off her curves and body with bikini tops and short, tight skirts. Her face is kind of weird looking, but her body is rocking. There is another hot lady on that couch named Laura who is also selective about her customers. Asians no problem. Bule and others probably not.
Locamotive
01-25-25, 22:10
I couldn't get the one girl from day before yesterday out of my mind, so I had decided to find her (I had her number, but it was to no avail), spend some time with her and spend 1 more hour with another faviorite girl of mine. But these girls don't carry their phones with them while working. Luckily I remembered the mama that had brought the line-up to another customer in which I noticed her.
This mama was also hard to find as she was not one of the pushy ones or one who approached me upfront, anyways she came to a nearby table to show line-up that is when I showed the girl name and number to her, she confirmed that the girl is in room with another customer and that I could wait if I want her. The wait time turned out to be 2 hours apparently, I was getting tired just guzzling beers and looking around, my goal was to get out of the place early but my patience paid off and she finally did bring the girl who I wasn't even sure because there are so many common names. Perhaps it was the waiting time and me obsessing over her but I really felt happy seeing her, we talked for a while, she seemed to be disconnecting in between conversations, I felt something was off but dismissed it as her being shy. Once mama came around she offered me to take her to my hotel (I was surprised to hear mama offering this) but I had checked this with the girl before mama came and she was like maybe tomorrow, so finally we settled at 2 hours with her at Classic (I thought it would go till closing hours as it was already 12.45 am). 2 hours doesn't have any discount tag and costs straight up (365*2=730 k), mama also asked for a tip of 1 bundle I. E. 35 k, I hesitated as I am not accustomed to tipping mamas, so she went away but later thought that she did bring me the girl that I wanted so called her back, said sorry and gave her the 35 k, this made her happy and then there were laughs and giggles.
Onto the room, this girl was very sweet and delicate like a barbie doll, so I was being very careful with her, she confirmed her age was 22, we had some sweet kissing moments, but she seemed to be scared of something throughout the interaction and she was avoiding eye contact, I played some songs on my phone, we danced for a bit (I am a very poor dancer) but thought it would loosen her up a bit, we showered together and I could see her amateur hands wandering about very tentatively on my body. Once onto the bed we started with kissing again and she was very soft and delicate as mentioned before, so I was taking confirmation for every action and although she was saying yes, I could sense reluctance in her body language. Once I started caressing her pussy, that is when she started shaking and trembling but not in a sexual way, but in a way that she was afraid. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that this girl has gone through some trauma, my desire for sex had gone out of the window by now and was instead replaced with concern. I stopped proceeding ahead, just laid there waiting for her to react something but she was quiet as a mouse, I got up and indicated her that should I get dressed? Her initial reaction was why? I told her that she seemed to be too scared and I don't want to make things worse for her.
She seemed to be lost in thought, I started dressing up, I assured her that I won't complain to mama and instead we could just spend some time in the room before the clock runs out, asked her if we can order food or drinks in room, she said no, we got dressed up but there were still 45 minutes to kill, so I told her that she could sleep, we both laid on the bed fully clothed, asked to rest her head on my shoulder while being enveloped in my arm, I kept playing and singing some romantic songs on my phone in a soft volume (which I am sure were alien to her), played game on my phone while doing this, woke her up at 2. 45 am, told her it was time to go. I know this goes against the mongering instincts, but I thought it was more important to be supporting shoulder in this instance.
Once I reached my room, surprisingly I started getting messages from her on Whatsapp, her first message was 'forgive me', She later apologized for disappointing me etc. I assured her that it was ok, later she admitted that she had been through a traumatic experience earlier that day and also had a rude customer just before me, we chatted for about half an hour, it was getting late so called it a night.You are a gentleman sir, many treat them very badly, evil men are in this world. It can and does ruin their perception of men, shame for them and the rest of us. I now if possible when entering bars, got any new ones with no foreign exposer. They may be shy but not scared of me.
I have 9 days to kill during April. Is that too long just to hang out in Jakarta? How long do you usually stay?I typically stay for at least 5 days, considering the time and expense involved in getting here from where I live. Ideally, 7-10 days is perfect, as it gives enough time to explore without getting bored or feeling limited by the traffic and available places to cover.
Does anyone know of a map that lays out the most common clubs / brothels / massage places? I'm particularly interested in Classic and Emporium. I'll only be there for 4 full days, so I'll probably stick to those two places and then maybe an escort or two.
I used maps that people put together for Berlin and Prague and they're pretty useful in terms of saving time. It also helps to know if there's another place right around the corner in case there are no appealing girls at the first stop.
Or I would settle with just a street name or something for the main two. I don't want to waste time fighting the traffic only to find out there are two Classic clubs and I happened to choose the one that sucks.
Looking forward to giving my first reports in Jakarta. It's a new destination for me.
I'm absolutely amazed by the reports Zippos shared about his Bekasi / Cikarang expedition back in September. Now, I'm really intrigued to spend a few days there, escaping Jakarta's bustling traffic for some laid-back punting around Cikarang, Cibitung. Does anyone else similar or have a different take on it?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2948370&viewfull=1#post2948370
So my Christmas and new year Jakarta trip is over with not much to report. Visited blok m a few times but it's hit and miss. On Friday's it rocking with a lot of personnel but not so on Saturday.
However there are lots of SW around the area at all the back and front of Jl falethan. Some were not interesting but there were a few lookers early. When I passed by late most were gone.
There is one that sits on a motorcycle real looker but seriously bad attitude I have seen her around for years. In my bar the asking rate by some is over 1 M which I find a bit over priced for the quality but there were a few 8/9 on Friday but they were occupied very quickly. I did try massage from different places but the room condition were a bit off. Not a turn on atmosphere.
Blok M tends to be a love-it or hate-it kind of place. In my opinion, the best way to truly experience it is by staying at a nearby hotel, like Sotis Falatehan or M Hotel, and stroll the area. From bars and restaurants to shops, spas, and the Blok M Square mall, there's plenty to enjoy. Many people here, especially for first-time visitors or those on short trips, prefer to stick to North Jakarta, which I completely understand, as most of the action is concentrated there. However, you're missing out on the unique vibe and fun that Blok M, Kemang and South Jakarta has to offer. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Alomost all girls at Classic are there for money, Indon have genetically built in ability to feel victom. Girls look to work at classic cause its easy money, So she made easy money by making you feel victom of trauma. Brothels are not the place to feel bad for girls, you are their to have good time. You paid for sex instead you turned into nice guy.
I bet after making you fool she called her favorite client and fuck the hell of him or her boyfriend.
No one is holding girls hostage, or at gun point to work here. Next time, take girl first for short time, and get your deed done and start a fling with girl if she provided great service.Dear Brother,
I hear what you are saying, and while nobody can ascertain except herself ascertain whether she was telling the truth or not, I am someone who goes with my instincts / or gutfeel if you will.
I too had to work very hard to get where I am at, and to be in a position to afford these vacations, life is not easy on anyone some are born with money and some have to work for it but I can assure you it is not easy on anyone. While we work hard to get the money to spend on these activities, the girls have to sacrifice their bodies to earn our money risking diseases, rough clientale, being in an environment filled with smoke and drinks for their 10-12 hour shifts.
I have just as equally quit on a girl and complained to her mama, if you read my previous reports. The difference is this girl was trying to get by without putting any effort, bought a costly drink without confirming with me first, and in the room she became a dead fish. Whereas the Classic girl didn't say no to anything, she was participative but was being held back by fear and was naturally shaking when I moved to a particular part of her body (it wasn't a trying to get by case). I have been mongering at various places for more than 20 years now and have seen my share of the garden variety of girls that the mongering scene offers and the kind of drama that they can put up. So if my instinct tells me that something is wrong I trust it.
It is possible that I may be wrong, but even if I was I don't feel any remorse or regret for how things went. Her trying to connect with me later also means that she couldn't just forget our time together and made an effort to say something about it by connecting with me later, which she didn't have to, the hit and run types generally don't look back on their victims, they will generally have a laugh with their pals and boast of how big of a fool they made out of me.
Thanks to Werqweq and others who have mentioned the positive comments, appreciate it brothers (We are all Humans before anything else and if we don't feel compassion for one of our own then we are no better than wild animals).
Sorry about posting this slightly late, travelling back home was a bit hectic and I got my recovery rest, so posting last day at Jakarta report.
I played golf at the Kemayoran Golf course, a worthy experience for almost 1. 5 m (including 10 golf balls for 150 k). It is a 4-5 hours experience depending on how quickly you finish each game but there were at least 12 odd courses, with caddie being your chaperone. I played for the first time and it was an aweome experience.
I had decided to finish my closing day with a flourish and while I have been texting my known ones to and fro to meet again, I have learned that girls at Classic have to keep their phones in locker while they are working, so it proved to be difficult to find them in the jungle during Classic business hours. I had decided that I will have 2 sessions today regardless, so after few drinks and smokes picked a pretty little girl with some tats.
This girl turned out to be a no this no that kind of girl and was in a rush for me to finish, she was an amateur who couldn't even handle a simple miss fuck properly, and she continued with the no, no approach even after I switched to minimalistic mode. I was getting bored, but somehow finished the session without my heart being in it. After this she had the audacity to ask for tip, I clearly told her tips are for good performers and asked her if she thought that she did well, she made a bit of face, but I locked the door behind me and didn't look back.
Moved to the main area which got crowded by now (about 11.30 pm on a Friday night), it was hard to find a table and I shared it with Indonesian gentleman who was kind enough to give me the affirmation to sit while he was with his girl, later on he moved out with his girl and 2 more Indo guys came to the table they seemed more into music than the girls so we enjoyed a cool vibe together offering each other cigs, while I was getting recharged, by the time I was done, I couldn't find any good looking girls around (12.30 am), so called one mama, saw her line-up and selected the least rejectionable option, some mamas I observed only cared about the Indo. Clientale and were intentionally not paying attention to foreigners.
Anyways the second option also turned to be rush rush one, but got synced to my momentum once I penetrated her, I ploughed her hard (not rough) thinking that this is my last experience and I need to make it count, I got the moans that I was looking for but it wasn't as magical a feeling as some of my early encounters. Tipped her a 50k since she got into the act a little later. Last day was turning out to be a disappointment.
While I was at the cashiers at Classic closing time, I made one more attempt to connect with my first good encounter at Classic, we had been playing the catch-up for 1 whole week, unfortunately neither of our schedules allowed for us to get back together on any day until now. This time however she responded immediately since her shift was over, I called her over to the counter, our eyes lit up once we saw eachother and after a warm embrace we sat down chatting, I asked her what was her plan after the shift, she gave a smart response as she was not sure, I took the hint and made her an offer to come back to my hotel just to give me company with my packing, she happily accepted, I warned her that my room would be a mess, she smiled, I asked her for charges and she said nothing (as in no charges), I confirmed again and she assured me that my understanding is correct, she is the best girl that I met at classic calm, quiet, smart, matches my wavelength in the bed, dare I say a love connection (as far as one in such places go). She asked me to wait while she changes, I waited at the table, later got a message from her to meet outside as the supervisors may not like her leaving with me. I started moving outside, while going downstairs one other girl started hitting on me and held my hand forcibly hinting that we are going home together, I just smiled but she kept complimenting how handsome I am et all, I just enjoyed the attention and waited for my girl at the exit. After some more wait she asked me to meet directly at hotel (I got an eerie feeling whether her plans are changed or something).
I reached my hotel, waited at reception and ordered the as best as possible desserts available at 3 am from Buger king (some choclate toasties, etc) (LOL I know), she was texting me of her movement, which assured me that she was coming, received her from reception and went to my room, I just wanted her company as a lasting thought of my trip's closure, and my mind was occupied with packing and getting enough sleep before I left the hotel for good, so once she was in, I hooked her onto my laptop to play something on youtube to her liking and asked her if she want to order some food, she chose some rice option and also helped me coordinate with the delivery guys for both deliveries. She had her food while I packed and once I was done by 4 am or so, we had the dessert and asked her if she wants to lay down for couple of hours, she agreed. Once we were a little relaxed and she was in my arms on the bed we started an intense make-out session (a never ending kissing marathon with her soft and scrumptious lips, our hands wandering all around each other's bodies (but I was too drained for sex with 2 sessions earlier), so we fell asleep in each other's embrace after 45 mins or so, I had an alarm set for 8 am, I woke her up after the alarm went off, but she was holding me even harder and wasn't letting go, I turned off the alarms and another intense make-out session started, I have never kissed anyone before brushing in the morning but this wasn't one of those moments, her mouth felt as beautiful as it was 3 hours ago and surprisingly enough she wasn't repulsed by my mouth, I had a raging boner so we dry humped in different positions with the last one being her in a cow girl topless position and a few other times with her being naked. I was aware of the passing time and had to make it stop after some time but the chemistry between us was magic. Once our morning routines were settled we had breakfast in the hotel restaurant. Once back to our room I handed her a 400 k + 50 k for her taxi fare, she happily accepted looking a little surprised that I was giving her the money.
I saw her off till the lift with a heavy heart, asked her to message me once she reached her place, which she did. This was the flourish that I was looking for and I left Jakarta this time a very happy man. There was one more girl at classic who had exchanged numbers with me and she had been texting me continously for 3-4 days to meet at my hotel or at Classic, not sure if she got a little obssessed or was just hunting for business (but it felt a little more than just business).
Huge shout out to this very active and helpful forum, you have been the walking stick to this silly old blind man.
That is all from my Jakarta diaries for this time, signing-off for until next time.
I am here if anyone needs any information that is not mentioned already.
Cheers and peace out!!
Does anyone know of a map that lays out the most common clubs / brothels / massage places? I'm particularly interested in Classic and Emporium. I'll only be there for 4 full days, so I'll probably stick to those two places and then maybe an escort or two.
I used maps that people put together for Berlin and Prague and they're pretty useful in terms of saving time. It also helps to know if there's another place right around the corner in case there are no appealing girls at the first stop.
Or I would settle with just a street name or something for the main two. I don't want to waste time fighting the traffic only to find out there are two Classic clubs and I happened to choose the one that sucks.
Looking forward to giving my first reports in Jakarta. It's a new destination for me.Emporivum and Classic are a 12 minute walk apart. Lookup Redtop hotel Jakarta. It's an easy 10 minute walk from Classic, and two minutes from Emporivum. If you don't care about gym, many people have also recommended the Luminor hotel, which is even closer to Emporivum. If you have enough money and want to mainly visit Emporivum and Classic, I'd stay at the Movenpick, which is right next to Emporivum, and a 12 minute walk from Classic.
Except for the horribly repetitive and boring breakfast, I like Redtop for the price / value / location. I have stayed there two times, but thinking about Merlynn Park next time (and probably motobiketaxi to Classic), mainly as Movenpick is both a bit too expensive, but also rooms there lack a bathtub it seems.
Does anyone know of a map that lays out the most common clubs / brothels / massage places? I'm particularly interested in Classic and Emporium. I'll only be there for 4 full days, so I'll probably stick to those two places and then maybe an escort or two.
I used maps that people put together for Berlin and Prague and they're pretty useful in terms of saving time. It also helps to know if there's another place right around the corner in case there are no appealing girls at the first stop.
Or I would settle with just a street name or something for the main two. I don't want to waste time fighting the traffic only to find out there are two Classic clubs and I happened to choose the one that sucks.
Looking forward to giving my first reports in Jakarta. It's a new destination for me.This is a bit dated but remains largely accurate.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1otTyUwFhqAMfy3fA8NDfarH5RkBEnTA&ll=-6.194299726540923%2C106.7812375&z=11
Emporivum and Classic are a 12 minute walk apart. Lookup Redtop hotel Jakarta. It's an easy 10 minute walk from Classic, and two minutes from Emporivum. If you don't care about gym, many people have also recommended the Luminor hotel, which is even closer to Emporivum..Luminor hotel Pecenongan that is.
MohdirFan82
01-27-25, 00:47
After reading your report, I can tell you have great time in Jakarta, not all experiances were great but mostly you had a blast. Thats how it should be, we all work hardcore to affort these little happiness. I do have heart and compassion, Once I came across to a situation where I took a girl inside, while I was busy sucking her boobs she was crying. I immidiatly stopped and ask if everything was ok? She said her mom is really sick and her agent wouldent let her go till she pay off her cost coming here and so on. I just sat with her, comforted her and even gave her tipped her.
Hope next time you explore Jakarta and other part of Indonesia aswell. People say its more fun in the Phillipines, but they don't know, Its more fun in Indonesia.
Dear Brother,
I hear what you are saying, and while nobody can ascertain except herself ascertain whether she was telling the truth or not, I am someone who goes with my instincts / or gutfeel if you will.
I too had to work very hard to get where I am at, and to be in a position to afford these vacations, life is not easy on anyone some are born with money and some have to work for it but I can assure you it is not easy on anyone. While we work hard to get the money to spend on these activities, the girls have to sacrifice their bodies to earn our money risking diseases, rough clientale, being in an environment filled with smoke and drinks for their 10-12 hour shifts.
I have just as equally quit on a girl and complained to her mama, if you read my previous reports. The difference is this girl was trying to get by without putting any effort, bought a costly drink without confirming with me first, and in the room she became a dead fish. Whereas the Classic girl didn't say no to anything, she was participative but was being held back by fear and was naturally shaking when I moved to a particular part of her body (it wasn't a trying to get by case). I have been mongering at various places for more than 20 years now and have seen my share of the garden variety of girls that the mongering scene offers and the kind of drama that they can put up. So if my instinct tells me that something is wrong I trust it.
It is possible that I may be wrong, but even if I was I don't feel any remorse or regret for how things went. Her trying to connect with me later also means that she couldn't just forget our time together and made an effort to say something about it by connecting with me later, which she didn't have to, the hit and run types generally don't look back on their victims, they will generally have a laugh with their pals and boast of how big of a fool they made out of me.
Thanks to Werqweq and others who have mentioned the positive comments, appreciate it brothers (We are all Humans before anything else and if we don't feel compassion for one of our own then we are no better than wild animals).
MrHappyKat
01-27-25, 04:31
Thank you for the collective trip reports. Very informative as well as entertaining.
I appreciate the time and attention to detail, not to mention your transparency about disappointing results along the way, required to document your experiences.
Safe travels back home.
Sorry about posting this slightly late, travelling back home was a bit hectic and I got my recovery rest, so posting last day at Jakarta report.
Cheers and peace out!!
After much internal debate, I've decided on and booked a trip to Jakarta, mid April. My arrival will be somewhat late, so I've decided on the first night in south Tangerang (hoping on a quicker trip from the airport). Gained some knowledge from Arnoldne's reports and also from Zippos September reviews. Noticed Orchid Spa, in a building with several other spas. Any recent intel on these?
Also saw a Red Light Hotel and Sps in the area wondering if anyone has info about that? Might minimize my stay in Jakarta and move out to Cikarang for a few days before heading to Yogokarta, then on to Bali. Finish up in Jakarta early May. Wouldn't mind starting my trip off right.
Anyone in town feel free to hit me up for a beer.
Sorry about posting this slightly late, travelling back home was a bit hectic and I got my recovery rest, so posting last day at Jakarta report.Thank you for taking the time to write about your experiences in such details. I thoroughly enjoyed your reports. Kudos!
After reading your report, I can tell you have great time in Jakarta, not all experiances were great but mostly you had a blast. Thats how it should be, we all work hardcore to affort these little happiness. I do have heart and compassion, Once I came across to a situation where I took a girl inside, while I was busy sucking her boobs she was crying. I immidiatly stopped and ask if everything was ok? She said her mom is really sick and her agent wouldent let her go till she pay off her cost coming here and so on. I just sat with her, comforted her and even gave her tipped her.
Hope next time you explore Jakarta and other part of Indonesia aswell. People say its more fun in the Phillipines, but they don't know, Its more fun in Indonesia.Awesome man, I too had a hard time deciding between Pattaya and Jakarta, I am glad I chose the latter.
JonesLover
01-27-25, 17:48
Hi,
You have more experience than me because I don't know Indonesia, so I would like to ask a question: if I were to find a regular girl online 20-24 yo), not a pro, and we are together for 10 days full time, that is, I meet her every day or she comes to live with me in my rented comfortable apartment, how much money could I give her when I leave, but without exceeding? I am quite old.
Thank you for your suggestions.
Irish Mongrel
01-28-25, 04:12
Hi,
You have more experience than me because I don't know Indonesia, so I would like to ask a question: if I were to find a regular girl online 20-24 yo), not a pro, and we are together for 10 days full time, that is, I meet her every day or she comes to live with me in my rented comfortable apartment, how much money could I give her when I leave, but without exceeding? I am quite old.
Thank you for your suggestions.You're looking after her for 10 days, feeding her, taking her out at night, maybe buying her the odd present. Dresses, sexy undies, some nice perfume. No need to pay.
I had a regular Uni student who I initially met thru Tinder. I used to meet her all the time and take her to other places in Asia. She was extremely hot and crazy in bed, and I knew nobody I would meet elsewhere could better her. And basically, she was not after money. She was after the travel and the pictures for her Instagram account! 30+ years age difference.
LoveItHere69
01-28-25, 07:32
My arrival will be somewhat late, so I've decided on the first night in south Tangerang (hoping on a quicker trip from the airport).You need to RTTF. Jakarta traffic is horrible. Why on earth would you stay near the airport when your plane arrives late when you could zip down the streets with little traffic. But instead you want to wait until the next day when the streets are packed to get to your real desired location. Good idea!
Hi,
You have more experience than me because I don't know Indonesia, so I would like to ask a question: if I were to find a regular girl online 20-24 yo), not a pro, and we are together for 10 days full time, that is, I meet her every day or she comes to live with me in my rented comfortable apartment, how much money could I give her when I leave, but without exceeding? I am quite old.
Thank you for your suggestions.The question is a bit weird. A regular/normal girl is not going to expect any less or more money from you in Jakarta than she would in New York, Paris, Madrid, etc., which is zero as she's not a hooker.
Since you're talking about paying I'm guessing you're thinking of someone who is at best a freelancer. A part-time hooker. If you were to find one, she will tell you herself in the beginning, when you suggest she stays with you for the next 10 days.
If she instead asks you what you will give her I'd offer her 500,000 per evening/night (presumably she has normal work/school during the day if she's only hooking part-time) as a start, and take it from there. More than 1,000,000 per night for such a long duration I think would be overpaying unless there's something special, as a guaranteed 10 M for 10 days is pretty good. I'd also add round-trip taxis for her to you and back to work/school in the morning if she's staying with you like that. You can book for her yourself via the grab app on your phone, and then you will also know when she will arrive.
JonesLover
01-28-25, 12:27
The question is a bit weird. A regular/normal girl is not going to expect any less or more money from you in Jakarta than she would in New York, Paris, Madrid, etc., which is zero as she's not a hooker.
Since you're talking about paying I'm guessing you're thinking of someone who is at best a freelancer. A part-time hooker. If you were to find one, she will tell you herself in the beginning, when you suggest she stays with you for the next 10 days.
If she instead asks you what you will give her I'd offer her 500,000 per evening/night (presumably she has normal work/school during the day if she's only hooking part-time) as a start, and take it from there. More than 1,000,000 per night for such a long duration I think would be overpaying unless there's something special, as a guaranteed 10 M for 10 days is pretty good. I'd also add round-trip taxis for her to you and back to work/school in the morning if she's staying with you like that. You can book for her yourself via the grab app on your phone, and then you will also know when she will arrive.First of all, thank you for your kind reply. However, I understand that you have never been to the Philippines. In the Philippines, but not only there, you can go with all the regular girls you want, but they all expect some money when you leave. Since I do not know Indonesia, for this reason I had asked this question that you find weird. However, your answer leaves me a bit perplexed. Beyond all, I am not young.
The question is a bit weird. A regular/normal girl is not going to expect any less or more money from you in Jakarta than she would in New York, Paris, Madrid, etc., which is zero as she's not a hooker.
Since you're talking about paying I'm guessing you're thinking of someone who is at best a freelancer. A part-time hooker. If you were to find one, she will tell you herself in the beginning, when you suggest she stays with you for the next 10 days.
If she instead asks you what you will give her I'd offer her 500,000 per evening/night (presumably she has normal work/school during the day if she's only hooking part-time) as a start, and take it from there. More than 1,000,000 per night for such a long duration I think would be overpaying unless there's something special, as a guaranteed 10 M for 10 days is pretty good. I'd also add round-trip taxis for her to you and back to work/school in the morning if she's staying with you like that. You can book for her yourself via the grab app on your phone, and then you will also know when she will arrive.Logically that's sound but perhaps you'd need some luck to find someone like that to be willing to spend time continuously and that's rather a low rate IMO. Because just playing devils advocate a girl even from Lokasiri would be 350-400 k per 45-60 minutes. To take out from Classic for example would be far more than their rate onsite for one session like 2 or 3 x from other bros reports.
Just from dating multiple girls in Jakarta over the past few months and chatting to dozens more I rarely found anyone who wasn't working full time. Students would be working part time. Many of them take their job very seriously as they well might.
SA might be your best bet, I'm not an expert on this as I use the dating apps but from other bros reports it's 1. 5-2 m for the night or more.
RockyBhai85
01-28-25, 15:02
Hello guys,
I am a senior member from India and need suggestion for a bachelor night at Jakarta and Balu.
We, six of us, are planning for a bachelor party in Bali and to Jakarta. To make it interesting, we are looking to rent a pool villa and arrange a party for a night. Looking for contacts / mamasan who can provide 3-4 girls for the night in Bali. Any contacts please DM.
Thanks.
Hello guys,
I am a senior member from India and need suggestion for a bachelor night at Jakarta and Balu.
We, six of us, are planning for a bachelor party in Bali and to Jakarta. To make it interesting, we are looking to rent a pool villa and arrange a party for a night. Looking for contacts / mamasan who can provide 3-4 girls for the night in Bali. Any contacts please DM.
Thanks.Your host got a budget of 5000 $?
Then this villa may fit, 6 bedrooms, all luxury and secluded with pool, location near Bogor (50 km on highway).
Be ready to pay 1000 EU a night, min 3 nights. Caterer for food and drinks in Bogor available.
Girls check with escort agencies, 3 Mio Rupiah a night per girl will get you some selection. They can easy come to Bogor.
Crocodilexp
01-28-25, 20:57
Alomost all girls at Classic are there for money, Indon have genetically built in ability to feel victom. Girls look to work at classic cause its easy money, So she made easy money by making you feel victom of trauma. Brothels are not the place to feel bad for girls, you are their to have good time. You paid for sex instead you turned into nice guy.
I bet after making you fool she called her favorite client and fuck the hell of him or her boyfriend.
No one is holding girls hostage, or at gun point to work here. Next time, take girl first for short time, and get your deed done and start a fling with girl if she provided great service.You're so deeply wrong, and lack any semblance of empathy. Working girls at places like Classic or Travel have had hard lives, might be in debt, and therefore make the faustian bargain of working the job they do. I can't stand those rude, gnarly, pushy mamasans for 10 minutes, and the girls have to endure them riding their ass for months. Preman (gangster) types running those venues are not pleasant employers who respect their workers.
Indonesia is not Pattaya. Society deeply disapproves of what they do, and Indonesians do care what others think. These are not the carefree Thai girls who make a quick buck for a while, don't feel bad about it, and then go on with their lives, maybe dabble again when money is short. They're deep outcasts.
As for "no one is holding girls hostage", I have my doubts. Obviously, I have no solid proof, but given the attitudes compared to many other types of working girls across SE Asia, I suspect not all are willingly there. There are shades and degrees of coercion. While they are obviously not literally held at gunpoint, there might be "debt" (real or invented) involved, and some real threats.
First of all, thank you for your kind reply. However, I understand that you have never been to the Philippines. In the Philippines, but not only there, you can go with all the regular girls you want, but they all expect some money when you leave. Since I do not know Indonesia, for this reason I had asked this question that you find weird. However, your answer leaves me a bit perplexed. Beyond all, I am not young.I visited the Philippines for some training about four times during a period of two years while living in Thailand, though only for a couple of weeks at a time, so hardly an expert.
Except for hookers in some shape or form, no girl there expected any money from me however, so I don't think there's anything special about the pinay darlings in that regard.
Didn't really feel I could go with all the regular girls I wanted either, even though I was still relatively young and handsome at the time. Go with any hooker I wanted? Yeah, maybe.
Logically that's sound but perhaps you'd need some luck to find someone like that to be willing to spend time continuously and that's rather a low rate IMO. Because just playing devils advocate a girl even from Lokasiri would be 350-400 k per 45-60 minutes. To take out from Classic for example would be far more than their rate onsite for one session like 2 or 3 x from other bros reports.
Just from dating multiple girls in Jakarta over the past few months and chatting to dozens more I rarely found anyone who wasn't working full time. Students would be working part time. Many of them take their job very seriously as they well might.
SA might be your best bet, I'm not an expert on this as I use the dating apps but from other bros reports it's 1. 5-2 m for the night or more.
LOL. I agree completely. The chance is almost nonexistent that the OP will manage to find a normal girl who will want to stay with him like that during a short visit. A paid hooker / holiday-GF is the only possibility I can see for the OP.
Afaik, the Classic girls themselves only get around 100k per session, even though we pay three-four times that. So 1M is 10 sessions per day for them, and 10M would be a 100 sessions. I'm sure many of them would be overjoyed to spend 10 days and nights in OP's cave for 10M, presumably with much nicer food and company than they otherwise would get from getting banged by 100 different weirdos. Unfortunately I don't think the girls can simply take 10 days off, so that's not possible without going through the Classic setup, which would 10 x the cost, minus whatever discount you can get for taking her for 10 days rather than just one night.
If SA girls are asking for 1. 5-2M per night, 10M for 10 nights straight also seems realistic to me, especially as I doubt they have customers every night, or even most nights.
You need to RTTF. Jakarta traffic is horrible. Why on earth would you stay near the airport when your plane arrives late when you could zip down the streets with little traffic. But instead you want to wait until the next day when the streets are packed to get to your real desired location. Good idea!I've been reading the forum and I know traffic is horrible. It doesn't take the forum to understand the traffic situation in a city the size of Jakarta. Did you have some information to share, or were you looking for an argument?
"My desired location" happens to be near the airport. After 24 hours travel, I want a quick shower and maybe some convenient fun. Right now, I'm planning on flying right back out to do some diving, making Tangerang a better idea. If nobody has checked out the large number of spots all bunched together there, maybe I'll have some useful intel.
Coming back to Jakarta, I'll probably use the other airport, which is convenient to Cikarang and Bekasi. If I fly out of there (airport code HLP) and back to CGK after my last island hop, I can avoid almost all of the Jakarta traffic although I might miss out on the small number of places which get frequently reviewed.
So, if anyone has some useful intel on Tangerang or Cikarang (although Zippos did a great job covering the latter) send it my way. I'm also open for any favorite "other areas" you can recommend.
...girls at places like Classic or Travel have had hard lives, might be in debt, and therefore make the faustian bargain of working the job they do. I can't stand those rude, gnarly, pushy mamasans for 10 minutes, and the girls have to endure them riding their ass for months. Preman (gangster) types running those venues are not pleasant employers who respect their workers.
Do you have more information who owned Classic and Travel? I was thinking there were some politicians, senior army officer, or even Chinese businessman, not sure locals criminals gangs or mafia can rivalise with them.
But in other way the barrier is thin between those categories.
I think girls are better treat in Classic and Travel than streets hookers in Europe, but have less liberty than in Pattaya girls bar.
MohdirFan82
01-29-25, 15:25
Have you ever stayed in Classic or Travel till the End of the day? I have, if you stand outside when the establishment closes you will notice some girls are picked up by their brothers, boyfriends, some use gojek and some stay in classic itself with pimp or have their own rooms. In Jakarta, majority of brothels are not like Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong or Taiwan where girls are not hostage, they are working in these establishments for whatever reason that I don't really care.
I go to brothels to pay and get service, I am not there to save a Hoe, listen to their pathatic stories, find a wife, girlfriend be a hero. When I choose a girl at classic, I tell her in advance what I want, what kind of service I am looking for and I don't take any bullshit and if they pull any bullshit in the room I stop, ran to mama and complain.
I also do listen to their stories and bullshit After the service provided, and sometimes I reward them with nice tip. I have tipped up to 500,000 to few for them for going above and beyond my expectations.
Go ahead and be hoe saver and a nice guy, you will always get run over, and ruin your day.
You're so deeply wrong, and lack any semblance of empathy. Working girls at places like Classic or Travel have had hard lives, might be in debt, and therefore make the faustian bargain of working the job they do. I can't stand those rude, gnarly, pushy mamasans for 10 minutes, and the girls have to endure them riding their ass for months. Preman (gangster) types running those venues are not pleasant employers who respect their workers.
Indonesia is not Pattaya. Society deeply disapproves of what they do, and Indonesians do care what others think. These are not the carefree Thai girls who make a quick buck for a while, don't feel bad about it, and then go on with their lives, maybe dabble again when money is short. They're deep outcasts.
As for "no one is holding girls hostage", I have my doubts. Obviously, I have no solid proof, but given the attitudes compared to many other types of working girls across SE Asia, I suspect not all are willingly there. There are shades and degrees of coercion. While they are obviously not literally held at gunpoint, there might be "debt" (real or invented) involved, and some real threats.
After much internal debate, I've decided on and booked a trip to Jakarta, mid April. My arrival will be somewhat late, so I've decided on the first night in south Tangerang (hoping on a quicker trip from the airport)..You never been there. And your assumption is based on what info?
Going by taxi to a reasonable hotel (if any) in Tangerang takes you 15--20 minutes.
Going to the Lokasari area with many hotels to select from takes you 30 minutes.
If you travel under that stress to gain 15 minutes -- you do not now how to enjoy the life: relax and stay in an area where you get plenty of entertainment.
If this has been covered before, sorry for the intrusion. It's probably only of interest to the guys who like to explore outside the box.
As I'm trying to learn as much as possible, I've found many, old Kaskus threads, especially on Zanny's map. Some of posts linked are several years old, which isn't much help to anyone. If you scroll down you'll find a page list, similar to the one here. Hit the double right arrow to go to the most recent page and you can check the dates to see if it's still an active location.
ThreeInches
01-30-25, 06:39
You're so deeply wrong, and lack any semblance of empathy. DEI is dead move on no one cares about "feelings" merit based everything.
Guys, does it really matter if a forum member wants to book into a hotel closer to the airport rather than taxi straight into the city after 24 hours travelling? I believe the original question was whether there was any fun to be had in that area. And it takes far longer to get to say Lokasiri than 30 minutes, just a cursory search on google right now, which isn't rush hour timing is stating 54 minutes from the airport pickup point. And we are talking about just the 1st night where that OP is arriving late.
Today I woke up with mild flue symptoms, no doubt caused by the icy airconditioning in taxis, brothels, restaurants and hotel lobbies. Despite feeling under the weather I still managed to have a fullfilling session thanks to the skills and sexyness of Karin at Emporium. I strongly recommend this girl if you like a full bush between a woman's legs and a super tight pussy. She is also a great actor for a porn star experience.
Whenever you have the choice between tipping the girl in the room (in cash) and tipping on the invoice to be settled at front desk, do the former because if you do the latter the House will take a cut on the tip.
Yesterday the girl I sessioned at Classic's told me barfining a girl for the night at Classic's will set you back 3 million. Not really worth it unless you really fancy a girl. This figure also provides a basis for estimating a girl's typical number of customers.
LoveItHere69
01-30-25, 17:16
Whenever you have the choice between tipping the girl in the room (in cash) and tipping on the invoice to be settled at front desk, do the former because if you do the latter the House will take a cut on the tip.The only reason to give a tip on a final bill is because you have no cash at all and must pay 100% by credit or debit card. Everyone should know that already. Everyone should bring enough cash for tips in any situation (waitress, hotel staff, etc).
You never been there. And your assumption is based on what info?
Going by taxi to a reasonable hotel (if any) in Tangerang takes you 15--20 minutes.
Going to the Lokasari area with many hotels to select from takes you 30 minutes.
If you travel under that stress to gain 15 minutes -- you do not now how to enjoy the life: relax and stay in an area where you get plenty of entertainment.What assumption? I made a statement of intent then asked a question.
There are several spas in the area I'm looking at and plenty of hotels, running from $10-$15 per night at an OYO and up to a 5 star, well reviewed JHL hotel for $73 and up. Information is easy to find.
Between Google Maps and Kaskus, it's not difficult to find locations for my interests. However, Google reviews aren't full of details. That's where ISG used to be a great source. All you had to do was ask a simple question and someone would either answer, or give an alternate, relative suggestion. Here's an example:
I've read Zippos report on Orchid Spa in Tangerang. I noticed several other spas in the area. Does anyone have any information on them?
Possible responses:
1. I haven't been there, but I've heard good things about El Casa and Dice spas, which are in the area.
2. My preference is Loksari. Here are some of my favorite places:
Either one adds useful information, not just to the OP, but for anyone else considering a visit.
Sadly, the responses tend towards insults with no relative information. The insults don't bother me, and I've learned to expect the majority of responses to be useless. However, new members are discouraged from asking their questions, and often will drop their travel plans. Perhaps you can take that into consideration in the future.
In the interest of sharing and gathering information, here is a partial list of options in Tangerang. All are searchable by name on Google Maps and Kaskus, with recent posts:
1. Fee Massage Alam Sutera.
2. Orchid Massage Alam Sutera.
3. Lunatic Massage Alam Sutera.
4. Blow Art Alam Sutera.
5. Cheese Massage BSD.
6. Orchid Spa BSD.
7. Mahjhong Massage.
8. Alaska Massage (last post in November).
9. Romeo 2 Health Massage.
10. Mochi Massage and Lounge BSD.
11. Dragon Shiatsu and Traditional Massage.
12. El Casa Massage and Lounge.
13. De Bale BSD.
14. Dice Men's Healthy Massage.
15. WS Massage and Bar.
Other than names, I have no info on these places, except they appear to be still open. There are a few areas where several places are grouped together, although some I didn't list have no current reviews. A quick glance at prices shows they fall within normal ranges, average might be slightly higher than Classic.
Any reports would be greatly appreciated.
Guys, does it really matter if a forum member wants to book into a hotel closer to the airport rather than taxi straight into the city after 24 hours travelling? I believe the original question was whether there was any fun to be had in that area. And it takes far longer to get to say Lokasiri than 30 minutes, just a cursory search on google right now, which isn't rush hour timing is stating 54 minutes from the airport pickup point. And we are talking about just the 1st night where that OP is arriving late.Midnight, travel time isn't a big difference, although I hope to be in my hotel by 9:30. However, since my first night is just a refresher before a short island hop, the morning traffic back from Loksari could easily add an hour or more.
There is much more to the Jakarta area than just Loksari. I know exactly what to expect at the handful of places that get reviewed. It's convenient and easy, but there's no real thrill. I'd rather get turned down in 5 places that get 3 bules per year, before finding a gem who is somewhat interested in the activities. Why travel halfway around the world to eat at McDonald's, sleep at Holiday Inn and fuck in the same spot as every other visitor?
The only reason to give a tip on a final bill is because you have no cash at all and must pay 100% by credit or debit card. Everyone should know that already. Everyone should bring enough cash for tips in any situation (waitress, hotel staff, etc).I've still got so many things to learn then since everyone should know things I didn't. I wasn't overly surprised when the girl told me, but, silly me, I'd have thought management wouldn't be be so mean as to scrounge on girl's tips.
Midnight, travel time isn't a big difference, although I hope to be in my hotel by 9:30. However, since my first night is just a refresher before a short island hop, the morning traffic back from Loksari could easily add an hour or more.
There is much more to the Jakarta area than just Loksari. I know exactly what to expect at the handful of places that get reviewed. It's convenient and easy, but there's no real thrill. I'd rather get turned down in 5 places that get 3 bules per year, before finding a gem who is somewhat interested in the activities. Why travel halfway around the world to eat at McDonald's, sleep at Holiday Inn and fuck in the same spot as every other visitor?There is nothing wrong with your motivation, but since you've asked three specific questions, here is my take.
Because Holiday Inns tend to be a solid yet reasonably priced choice in Asia; because spots that attract a lot of mongers are usually successful for a reason; and even McDonalds in foreign lands can provide some interesting experiences due to local culinary twists.
Offshore Swell
01-30-25, 23:57
Midnight, travel time isn't a big difference, although I hope to be in my hotel by 9:30. However, since my first night is just a refresher before a short island hop, the morning traffic back from Loksari could easily add an hour or more.
There is much more to the Jakarta area than just Loksari. I know exactly what to expect at the handful of places that get reviewed. It's convenient and easy, but there's no real thrill. I'd rather get turned down in 5 places that get 3 bules per year, before finding a gem who is somewhat interested in the activities. Why travel halfway around the world to eat at McDonald's, sleep at Holiday Inn and fuck in the same spot as every other visitor?Full points to you for wanting to explore the less beaten pathways.
Your question was valid. Unfortunately, the first answer. To which you appear to have taken offence. Was the most correct.
Doing your thing around the peripheries of Jakarta is noble and OS can understand how from the comfort of your computer in whatever distant land you sit, it looks easy. But it is lined with frustrations and pitfalls.
There is a reason why everybody flocks en masse to Tamansari / Mangga Besar / Lokasari. Since the days of the Dutch, it has been the Sodom and Gomorra of Indonesia. It's simple there. Plenty of selection, good prices and open till 4 AM, you do your thing and go home.
It's also simple in those other locations but in the middle of the night, without any language skills you are just as likely to spend the night bumping around in some mosquito ridden taxi getting disappointed and frustrated. Most of the places you list as being still operating will close at 10 PM leaving you at the mercy of a taxi driver or hotel security to organise your long anticipated release and which will come at triple the price of what you might get in town, with ladies of considerably less selection and quality.
To get into the groove you may be smarter to hang up your boots for the first night and get a ride into town, do your thing and ride back to your subsequent travel plans.
Alternately try to find somewhere nearby to Soekarno Hatta in PIK which has a nightlife scene.
King Squared
01-31-25, 03:23
Today I woke up with mild flue symptoms, no doubt caused by the icy airconditioning in taxis, brothels, restaurants and hotel lobbies. Despite feeling under the weather I still managed to have a fullfilling session thanks to the skills and sexyness of Karin at Emporium. I strongly recommend this girl if you like a full bush between a woman's legs and a super tight pussy. She is also a great actor for a porn star experience.
Whenever you have the choice between tipping the girl in the room (in cash) and tipping on the invoice to be settled at front desk, do the former because if you do the latter the House will take a cut on the tip.
Is this at Emporium? I don't know that. I've only been once and at the end of the session, the girl gave me a little slip of paper that asked how much I would like to tip and to rate the girl. I don't know if that is the standard protocol or if the girl was new. I then settled the bill at the counter after using the dressing room.
I guess you wanted to tip the girl in cash, you would have to grab your wallet from the locker after you use the pool and before you go to the room.
Is this at Emporium? I don't know that. I've only been once and at the end of the session, the girl gave me a little slip of paper that asked how much I would like to tip and to rate the girl. I don't know if that is the standard protocol or if the girl was new. I then settled the bill at the counter after using the dressing room.
I guess you wanted to tip the girl in cash, you would have to grab your wallet from the locker after you use the pool and before you go to the room.Yes it was at Emporium's. I never use the pool so I always bring my cash with me into the room. At 1001 they hadn't let me keep my belt pouch so the only way to tip was on the slip.
Yesterday the girl I sessioned at Classic's told me barfining a girl for the night at Classic's will set you back 3 million. Not really worth it unless you really fancy a girl. This figure also provides a basis for estimating a girl's typical number of customers.Yes, the girls tell you a lot if, for example, they are not interested in you or if they are new. Ask them when they have their day off and the price should not be more than 1 million. Anything else really doesn't make sense in a city like this.
Guys, watch your travel time to and from the airport. The current floods impact the tall road going to the airport.
If you want to keep using your phone in the room, Let's say to use the translation app or get the girls contact, ask reception to put stickers on your camera holes instead of locking your phone in this plastic bag.
Guys, watch your travel time to and from the airport. The current floods impact the tall road going to the airport.Thanks for the reminder. It seems Google Maps keeps up to date with floodings. Still, I hope it doesn't get out of control.
Thanks for the reminder. It seems Google Maps keeps up to date with floodings. Still, I hope it doesn't get out of control.Wow to have it appear on the news like that it must be horrendous.
I was caught up in a downpour a few weeks back, roads near WTC mangga dua turned into a river. No kidding I was 15 minutes walk away from my hotel ended up taking 2 hours. Even stranger as one side of the was fine but the other side was a river. Nothing in the news about that but the drains in Jakarta can be terrible, that seemed to be the root cause of those conditions. If the forecast is bad for next few days, I'the advise anyone who can flexibly change their flight to do so.
Yes, the girls tell you a lot if, for example, they are not interested in you or if they are new. Ask them when they have their day off and the price should not be more than 1 million. Anything else really doesn't make sense in a city like this.I think the number XXL heard was correct for arranging it formally, as others have reported similar. On their day off, if you can wait till then, it is as you indicate up to the girls themselves.
I've still got so many things to learn then since everyone should know things I didn't. I wasn't overly surprised when the girl told me, but, silly me, I'd have thought management wouldn't be be so mean as to scrounge on girl's tips.Not overly surprised myself either, but since in both cases you need to fill out a paper slip stating at least some of the tip amount for management to see, I was hoping the difference would be minimal.
Did you happen to ask how much they took away? Last time I only brought enough cash for tips at Classic, and tipped via card at Emporivum, which is much easier of course.
There is nothing wrong with your motivation, but since you've asked three specific questions, here is my take.
Because Holiday Inns tend to be a solid yet reasonably priced choice in Asia; because spots that attract a lot of mongers are usually successful for a reason; and even McDonalds in foreign lands can provide some interesting experiences due to local culinary twists.Point, counterpoint:
For someone who collects IHG points, and spends a lot of time in hotels, Holiday Inn is a good choice, plus you know what you're getting. No argument there. However, I've had some interesting experiences in little, locally owned hotels, or even in a country's own luxury chain.
The spots that attract lots of mongers tend to be easier to handle. Many mongers want a solid routine, in a place where they feel comfortable. If it's a low cost option, even better. My mood changes. At times I want to slum it, roll into the lowest dive I can find and search for a diamond. Other times I want to get dressed up and spend some money. I like rolling into a spa not knowing if it's legit. If the girl is hot, I'll find out if she's corruptable.
I've added Hatch green Chiles to my Big Mac in Albuquerque. I'd rather sit down in a family run place and learn about the food.
The girls look VERY happy every time I tell them that tip will be in cash. It seems management is taking a lot.
LoveItHere69
02-01-25, 08:18
I've still got so many things to learn then since everyone should know things I didn't. I wasn't overly surprised when the girl told me, but, silly me, I'd have thought management wouldn't be so mean as to scrounge on girl's tips.You read about how mamasans and management treat the girls like crap in all the mongering countries. Yet you somehow believe that they will happily hand over all that money to the girl when they make a small portion of what that girl makes? The cashier and mamasans see the young girl's one hour tip which could be more than they make in a day or even a few days. The mamasan or cashier gets jealous of how such a young girl can make so much more than them. They change the amount saying the customer changed their mind.
You think these girls keep a list of each customer and each tip on a spreadsheet or something? Let's say the girl keeps a spreadsheet of all her tips and even takes picture proof. How hard do you think she is going to fight for her rightful money in these countries? You really think once they stole the money they will return it?
The most common way that mamasans steal money from the girls is after the girl gets a big tip or on payday the mamasan asks her underling for a small loan which most girls will give. What percentage of girls do you assume get paid back because it would be so mean not to do so?
Yes, all of you guys should know this.
I was with this 19 why / o at Kota Indah today who was such a bad performer that I stopped the session and just asked her to cuddle. Call me a sucker, but I truly believe that she didn't do it on purpose, it was lack of experience and my (medium size) dick seemed to hurt her. This is why I didn't complain, tried to hide my disappointment and just told her that I was tired. But she realized that it was because of her, became worried and insisted on suggestions how she could improve her performance. Out of her many problems I picked the topic of how to arch in doggy. She didn't really grasp the problem. In the end I took photos of her in the right and the wrong position. Once she saw the pictures, she finally understood. I hope she remembers the insight she gained today.
I was with this 19 why / o at Kota Indah today who was such a bad performer that I stopped the session and just asked her to cuddle. Call me a sucker, but I truly believe that she didn't do it on purpose, it was lack of experience and my (medium size) dick seemed to hurt her. This is why I didn't complain, tried to hide my disappointment and just told her that I was tired. But she realized that it was because of her, became worried and insisted on suggestions how she could improve her performance. Out of her many problems I picked the topic of how to arch in doggy. She didn't really grasp the problem. In the end I took photos of her in the right and the wrong position. Once she saw the pictures, she finally understood. I hope she remembers the insight she gained today.Very nice pussy and asshole in the second photo!
Which establishment at Kota Indah?
I was with this 19 why / o at Kota Indah today who was such a bad performer that I stopped the session and just asked her to cuddle. Call me a sucker, but I truly believe that she didn't do it on purpose, it was lack of experience and my (medium size) dick seemed to hurt her. This is why I didn't complain, tried to hide my disappointment and just told her that I was tired. But she realized that it was because of her, became worried and insisted on suggestions how she could improve her performance. Out of her many problems I picked the topic of how to arch in doggy. She didn't really grasp the problem. In the end I took photos of her in the right and the wrong position. Once she saw the pictures, she finally understood. I hope she remembers the insight she gained today.Ah-ah!
Indeed I also think most of those girls don't know any better. Kota Indah girls may on average be even worse than Classic girls in that respect. Note that if a girl doesn't arch properly she is not going to get properly stimulated either. It's a sure sign she isn't going to really be "into it".
Talking of Kota Indah, I don't remember rooms there having mirrors. That's a minus point compared to Classic. All rooms I've had at Classic's had a mirror alongside the bed.
Very nice pussy and asshole in the second photo!
Which establishment at Kota Indah?Sari Ayu. They have the biggest lineup at the moment.
Sari Ayu. They have the biggest lineup at the moment.The line-up I found at Royal was puny compared to Sari Ayu's. I thought this was owing to my being too early (4 pm).
Sari Ayu. They have the biggest lineup at the moment.I went there one night and there was a girl there I really liked I think her name was vanilla LOL she had on a white dress. I ended up pulling from Starmoon tho and had a bad experience from there so I just started sticking to classic.
I'll try Sari Ayu when I get back tho. I just bought my flight today for in May.
-Gabacho.
Point, counterpoint:
For someone who collects IHG points, and spends a lot of time in hotels, Holiday Inn is a good choice, plus you know what you're getting. No argument there. However, I've had some interesting experiences in little, locally owned hotels, or even in a country's own luxury chain.
The spots that attract lots of mongers tend to be easier to handle. Many mongers want a solid routine, in a place where they feel comfortable. If it's a low cost option, even better. My mood changes. At times I want to slum it, roll into the lowest dive I can find and search for a diamond. Other times I want to get dressed up and spend some money. I like rolling into a spa not knowing if it's legit. If the girl is hot, I'll find out if she's corruptable.
I've added Hatch green Chiles to my Big Mac in Albuquerque. I'd rather sit down in a family run place and learn about the food.Good points!
Today I walked out of a session at Classic's. I should have seen it coming for it was a girl brought to me by mamasan. Usually the mamasans bring me girls who are so remote from what I'm looking for that there's no risk of my taking the girl to the room. This time alas the girl brought to me was my type.
She started going on my nerves with the toilet paper & Listerine. She took ages. She scrubbed my cock for a while then stared at it, then scrubbed again, then stared... She looked disappointed that my cock didn't dissolve under the Listerine. When I explained to her what 69 ("enam sembilan") was she didn't take long to grasp but then she went "tidak boleh" (= "not allowed"). I ended the session there and then, paid my bill and ordered a Gojek to Emporium.
Emporium didn't disappoint. I am not at all into kissing and girlfriendliness is not essential for me, but if you are into kissing and if you like the girlfriendlier type, I warmy recommend Silvi (or Silvie?). I didn't test her English but she told me her English was good because she had a degree.
Comparing Classic to Emporium, a pattern seems to emerge.
1) Emporium doesn't have more lookers even if it has more tallish girls.
2) Emporium girls are skilled providers who will not say no to basic services like doggystyle and sixty-nine (I didn't test any of them for anal but I wouldn't be surprised if anal too was Ok.).
3) Emporium customers are spared the irritating Listerine ritual.
LoveItHere69
02-02-25, 16:23
She started going on my nerves with the toilet paper & Listerine. She took ages. She scrubbed my cock for a while then stared at it, then scrubbed again, then stared... She looked disappointed that my cock didn't dissolve under the Listerine. When I explained to her what 69 ("enam sembilan") was she didn't take long to grasp but then she went "tidak boleh" (= "not allowed"). I ended the session there and then, paid my bill and ordered a Gojek to Emporium.I hate when the girls try to waste time by using Listerine on my meat after I just took a shower. I agree with you. But 69 is not a normal request for most women in most countries that I am aware of. So it was your fault for not asking her for that before taking her. Something like that I would ask the mami which girls were most likely to offer that and still ask the girl. Now if she denied you doggie or getting on top position I would have made it a point to complain to the mami because not doing so just teaches the girl to piss off the customer so she does not have to do anything.
VictorHugo99
02-02-25, 17:51
Thanks Mr W for the awesome advise.
Would you recommend certain areas in Jakarta to have these prices, or just Lokasi?
Victor.
Good summary. I suspect what helps keep the prices good is indeed that we are fishing in the same pool as the locals, unlike e.g. Thailand. Once that changes I suspect it will be goodbye Jakarta for many of us.
After my first trip I asked whether I was overtipping or not, without getting any clear answers here, but on my second trip I think I've got a better understanding of things as far as Classic and similar lower priced places are concerned. Others here have visited many more times than me and may provide corrections, but I think the following guidelines are ok based on the responses I received from the girls.
Should put you in the "ok guy" category at Classic. Neither notably overpaying nor underpaying, which is where I aim to be.
- Nothing special, no tip. I never had this happen I think. Even the one girl who insisted on condom did something else to receive an extra tip. Also, while I now prefer BBFS, for most of my life I always used condoms outside ongoing relationships, after std testing for us both together, so I'm trying to not feel negative towards a girl who wants to be more careful about her health with a stranger she has no idea of whether even has HIV or not..
When I explained to her what 69 ("enam sembilan") was she didn't take long to grasp but then she went "tidak boleh" (= "not allowed"). I ended the session there and then, paid my bill and ordered a Gojek to Emporium.
Emporium didn't disappoint. I am not at all into kissing and girlfriendliness is not essential for me, but if you are into kissing and if you like the girlfriendlier type, I warmy recommend Silvi (or Silvie?). I didn't test her English but she told me her English was good because she had a degree.
Comparing Classic to Emporium, a pattern seems to emerge.
1) Emporium doesn't have more lookers even if it has more tallish girls.
2) Emporium girls are skilled providers who will not say no to basic services like doggystyle and sixty-nine (I didn't test any of them for anal but I wouldn't be surprised if anal too was Ok.).Except the word sixty-nine isn't Enam Sembilan, whenever you add a zero onto the end of a number (for example adding 0 to 2 to make 20) you have to add the word "puluh" you can see this on the money written on the bottom of the bills. So Enam is 6 but 60 is Enam Puluh. Sembilan is 9 so to say 69 correctly it would need to be "Enam Puluh Sembilan".
But more important than saying 69 correctly, I think that phrases or idioms in one language do not necessarily translate into the same meaning in another language. Just how doggy style or estilo perrito is not understood in Colombia, they say "en los cuatro" so even had you said 69 correctly, odds are she wouldn't know why this bule is saying 69 and that you wanted her to suck your cock while eating her pussy.
They probably have an entirely different phrase to convey this sexual act and this is a prime example of why mongers should invest a little time and effort into learning at least some basics of the language, if you have been able to convey your thoughts message, the session may have not been bust.
Today I walked out of a session at Classic's. I should have seen it coming for it was a girl brought to me by mamasan. Usually the mamasans bring me girls who are so remote from what I'm looking for that there's no risk of my taking the girl to the room. This time alas the girl brought to me was my type.
She started going on my nerves with the toilet paper & Listerine. She took ages. She scrubbed my cock for a while then stared at it, then scrubbed again, then stared... She looked disappointed that my cock didn't dissolve under the Listerine. When I explained to her what 69 ("enam sembilan") was she didn't take long to grasp but then she went "tidak boleh" (= "not allowed"). I ended the session there and then, paid my bill and ordered a Gojek to Emporium.
Emporium didn't disappoint. I am not at all into kissing and girlfriendliness is not essential for me, but if you are into kissing and if you like the girlfriendlier type, I warmy recommend Silvi (or Silvie?). I didn't test her English but she told me her English was good because she had a degree.Oh wait I see that you said she did understand and said not allowed. I would have just switched to another girl within classic, would have been a hell of a lot cheaper than emporium.
Except the word sixty-nine isn't Enam Sembilan, whenever you add a zero onto the end of a number (for example adding 0 to 2 to make 20) you have to add the word "puluh" you can see this on the money written on the bottom of the bills. So Enam is 6 but 60 is Enam Puluh. Sembilan is 9 so to say 69 correctly it would need to be "Enam Puluh Sembilan".
You're technically correct. However, Indonesian numbers, when said in full get so long that colloquially they are often shortened.
'tiga lima' is commonly used and could be 35, 35,000, 350,000 or even 3,500,000 depending on context.
I think it was more likely that she feined lost in translation so that she didn't have to do something she wasn't keen on anyway. Some english positions or sex acts don't translate directly or may not be widely understood eg I've had a lot more success asking for a 'blowjob' rather than a 'headjob'.
Enjoy. G.
BenderOver
02-03-25, 02:22
Wow to have it appear on the news like that it must be horrendous.
I was caught up in a downpour a few weeks back, roads near WTC mangga dua turned into a river. No kidding I was 15 minutes walk away from my hotel ended up taking 2 hours. Even stranger as one side of the was fine but the other side was a river. Nothing in the news about that but the drains in Jakarta can be terrible, that seemed to be the root cause of those conditions. If the forecast is bad for next few days, I'the advise anyone who can flexibly change their flight to do so.Honestly, I have such mixed feelings about the flooding aspect of Jakarta.
O We all know about the geographic crisis Jakarta is going through with it sinking, bad infrastructure, and prone to flooding.
O It's actually such a powerful site to see a culture of people constantly accept just being massively flooded out.
O Kids going to school like normal, just take their shoes off, put it in a plastic bag, and off they go!
O Ever try to traverse through 12" deep water in a taxi? It's scary shit!
O I don't mind the flooding, even if it's an inconvenience, because it almost feels like it's part of the adventure of being outside of your comfort zone, but when you see the black floating stuff in the water. Oh no.
Except the word sixty-nine isn't Enam Sembilan, whenever you add a zero onto the end of a number (for example adding 0 to 2 to make 20) you have to add the word "puluh" you can see this on the money written on the bottom of the bills. So Enam is 6 but 60 is Enam Puluh. Sembilan is 9 so to say 69 correctly it would need to be "Enam Puluh Sembilan".
But more important than saying 69 correctly, I think that phrases or idioms in one language do not necessarily translate into the same meaning in another language. Just how doggy style or estilo perrito is not understood in Colombia, they say "en los cuatro" so even had you said 69 correctly, odds are she wouldn't know why this bule is saying 69 and that you wanted her to suck your cock while eating her pussy.
They probably have an entirely different phrase to convey this sexual act and this is a prime example of why mongers should invest a little time and effort into learning at least some basics of the language, if you have been able to convey your thoughts message, the session may have not been bust.Thank you but the recommendation is hardly relevant in my case. I am fluent in bahasa, have been since the first decade. Enam puluh sembilan would be a literal translation, not necessarily correct to convey the mental picture of two bodies aligned along opposite directions. Enam is one body, sembilan is the other body. Two digits. Puluh is a distraction. By the same token, if you have say room number 523 you say lima-dua-tiga (5-0-3) not lima ratus dua puluh tiga. For shortness' sake.
Except the word sixty-nine isn't Enam Sembilan, whenever you add a zero onto the end of a number (for example adding 0 to 2 to make 20) you have to add the word "puluh" you can see this on the money written on the bottom of the bills. So Enam is 6 but 60 is Enam Puluh. Sembilan is 9 so to say 69 correctly it would need to be "Enam Puluh Sembilan".
But more important than saying 69 correctly, I think that phrases or idioms in one language do not necessarily translate into the same meaning in another language. Just how doggy style or estilo perrito is not understood in Colombia, they say "en los cuatro" so even had you said 69 correctly, odds are she wouldn't know why this bule is saying 69 and that you wanted her to suck your cock while eating her pussy.
They probably have an entirely different phrase to convey this sexual act and this is a prime example of why mongers should invest a little time and effort into learning at least some basics of the language, if you have been able to convey your thoughts message, the session may have not been bust.Not only that but since when 69 is considered a basic service? And just thinking aloud how many bros on here want to be in a 69 with one of these ladies who are having up to 8 clients a day? For me personally hell no which is perhaps why she was surprised / reluctant.
Not only that but since when 69 is considered a basic service? And just thinking aloud how many bros on here want to be in a 69 with one of these ladies who are having up to 8 clients a day? For me personally hell no which is perhaps why she was surprised / reluctant.Bollocks. Never mind whether basic, 69 is service like you get as a matter of course in Germany, Thailand, Brazil. In fact in all the countries where I remember mongering (including Jakarta 2 decades ago). That's enough guarantee of basicity for me.
As to who wants to be in 69 with ... ladies who have up to 8 clients a day, maybe the "bros" (including yourself?) who overwhelmingly like Jakarta for its BBFS can answer the question. Who wants BBFS from ladies who have up to 8 clients a day?
LoveItHere69
02-03-25, 06:59
Honestly, I have such mixed feelings about the flooding aspect of Jakarta.Sadly, it is hard to care. The people here always throw trash on the ground which blocks drainage and goes out to the sea. The government should stop all new building construction which add weight and causes further sinking, but they do not. Like a certain group in the USA that complain about no money but do not want to work, just sell drugs because it is easy.
LoveItHere69
02-03-25, 07:09
Never mind whether basic, 69 is service like you get as a matter of course in Germany, Thailand, Brazil. In fact in all the countries where I remember mongering (including Jakarta 2 decades ago). Wow. So far from the truth!
I am fluent in bahasa, have been since the first decade.Very odd. Your posts sound like you are a newbie and now you speak the language fluently. How sad because of all people this should have never happened to you but it did. A dim bulb comes to mind.
Answer Is Here:
I can not understand many people in my own country (USA). Texas accent, Boston accent, and blacks that think they developed a new language because they dropped the "are" in words. So girl becomes gil and car becomes ca. Brilliant! I hate the accent from the country of England because it is so hard to understand and they are speaking the same language. Learning the language would not have helped me with the deaf and mute girl I was once with. But I found a universal answer that you all can use.
You see I heard a rumor that a picture is worth a thousand words so you have to learn a thousand words versus I just simply show a picture. See below for added effect!
Not only that but since when 69 is considered a basic service? And just thinking aloud how many bros on here want to be in a 69 with one of these ladies who are having up to 8 clients a day? For me personally hell no which is perhaps why she was surprised / reluctant.I don't see anything wrong with him wanting 69 and I myself have gone down on more than a few girls at classic.
When I posted my first comment that was before I read all of XXL's post (my fault, I was in the hot tub and just glancing thru). After I read the rest of his post I made a second comment saying it would have saved money just getting another classic girl rather than going to emporium. But if is happier with emporium then that is fine too. His money his dick, or in this case his money, his mouth.
By the same token, if you have say room number 523 you say lima-dua-tiga (5-0-3) not lima ratus dua puluh tiga. For shortness' sake.At one of the hotels I would frequent off of Mangga Besar I liked to use room 12 and would always ask for room 12. I'm pretty sure the hotel staff referred to it as kamar duabelas, not kamar satu dua. LOL.
'tiga lima' is commonly used and could be 35, 35,000, 350,000 or even 3,500,000 depending on context.
When negotiating BBFS at classic I learned how to say dua ratus ribu and seratus lima puluh ribu. After saying it enough it just rolls off your tongue. I will admit that sometimes I would leave off the ribu as I was confident that the girls knew I wasn't talking about coins LOL. I didn't find these words that hard to pick up at all and the language is much easier than trying to learn something like Thai for example.
Also saying just "tigga lima" as in your example could lead to confusion. I personally like the puluh, ratus, and ribu words because it makes it so there can be no confusion.
Respectfully,
Gabacho.
Alternately try to find somewhere nearby to Soekarno Hatta in PIK which has a nightlife scene.Hi OS,
Do you have some information about action and nightlife in PIK? I feel like the three weeks I spent in north Jakarta cost me one week of my life because of the polluted air. For my next trip I'm looking for alternative locations. And PIK, being a chiq area close to the sea might be an option. The area seems very expensive. The way people are talking about it a simple apartment there might be more expensive than a four star hotel in North Jakarta. But it might still be worth it. I would love to stay in an area where I can actually walk around a bit.
Bollocks. Never mind whether basic, 69 is service like you get as a matter of course in Germany, Thailand, Brazil. In fact in all the countries where I remember mongering (including Jakarta 2 decades ago). That's enough guarantee of basicity for me.
As to who wants to be in 69 with ... ladies who have up to 8 clients a day, maybe the "bros" (including yourself?) who overwhelmingly like Jakarta for its BBFS can answer the question. Who wants BBFS from ladies who have up to 8 clients a day?A lot of assumptions, not many facts unfortunately.
I've never done BBFS with any P4 P. Maybe you should stay mongering in those countries then and as another post quoting yours, again "so far from the truth". Maybe you should recognise mongering in Brazil / Germany etc isn't exactly the same as in Jakarta at a specific place which is probably why you had that dud session.
At one of the hotels I would frequent off of Mangga Besar I liked to use room 12 and would always ask for room 12. I'm pretty sure the hotel staff referred to it as kamar duabelas, not kamar satu dua. LOL.Absolutely, probably because dua belas is nearly as short as satu dua, not much to win in opting for the latter. Indonesian has its everyday usage on a case-by-case basis, like any other language. Readability and audibility entail certain limitations and practices. That's why in any language, phone numbers with 9 digits will never be read out as billions (thousand millions), although they will per se be written as such.
Wow. So far from the truth!
Very odd. Your posts sound like you are a newbie and now you speak the language fluently. How sad because of all people this should have never happened to you but it did. A dim bulb comes to mind.
I mongered in Jakarta when you didn't know Jakarta existed and I have more posts in the Jakarta forum than you've had hot dinners:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2699-2002-2006-Jakarta-Reports/page8
I happened to see this handle in the Medellin thread and wondered if it is the same XXL I met years ago in Jakarta. So I did a search and ended up in this thread I didn"t know exists.
So, yes, he is the legendary XXL. The 10 Stadium girls in one night XXL!
Best Brothel / Bar - Tiara Ciera, or something like that, in a shopping mall just off of Jalan Mangga Besar. Back in 1998, when the Rupiah was extremely weak, you could spend time with a gorgeous hottie for less than 10 USD.
Best Woman - Dia in Maribaya, the 6th floor brothel and bar in Hotel Melawai in the Block M area. She had it all -- a "10" in looks, personality and performance.
Best Reports - XXL's. They were few and far between compared to some of the Jakarta regulars. But he gave people like me a vicarious thrill with his adventures in huge north Jakarta night clubs, teeming with Javanese poontang. I was always in Jakarta on business and so not inclined to keep late hours. And don't live life on the edge like he does. But his reports were always a great read. He could have strung some Jakarta experiences together and come up with a book that would rival anything Hunter S. Thompson wrote.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3988-Indonesian-Old-Timers
I have been taught some basic vocabulary by the girls, mainly body parts because it's easy just pointing at them and saying the name, like susu for tits, memek for pussy, kontol for dick, pantat for ass. But I have no idea how the positions are called. Does anybody have some insight here? How you call doggy? Girl on top? Or basic service like tea-bagging? .
I have been taught some basic vocabulary by the girls, mainly body parts because it's easy just pointing at them and saying the name, like susu for tits, memek for pussy, kontol for dick, pantat for ass. But I have no idea how the positions are called. Does anybody have some insight here? How you call doggy? Girl on top? Or basic service like tea-bagging? .Doggy = nungging. Blowjob = main karaoke (literally "do karaoke"). Girl on top I'd just say "wanita di atas" for want of a more idiomatic expression. DATY = jilmek (contraction of "jilat", lick, and "memek", pussy).
I didn't know about "tea-bagging", in fact never heard the term before in English.
I mongered in Jakarta when you didn't know Jakarta existed and I have more posts in the Jakarta forum than you've had hot dinners:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2699-2002-2006-Jakarta-Reports/page8
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3988-Indonesian-Old-TimersYea man, when I was doing my research on Jakarta (starting last April) I ran across some of your posts in particular in regards to the old train tacks. I don't think it's the same as the current train tracks. I saw several posts of yours in the Jakarta oldtimers section too.
Anyways back to the numbers and seeing them spelled out, I managed to bring back three of these older rupiah notes that I think are being phased out. The 5 k and 10 k which I have placed under the glass on my grandma's early twentieth century desk and a 1 k with a dude with a machete that I have in my the back of my phone case.
-Gabacho.
Thanks a lot XXL!
Actually, I asked a mami. She had no idea.
A regular of mine told me nanggung and 69. So apparently the term 69 is somehow known. For Mish and cowgirl she only used top and bottom too.
About tea-bagging: the stupid auto correct of this forum deleted my irony-marker. I hate this software from the last millennium.
Thanks a lot XXL!
Actually, I asked a mami. She had no idea.
A regular of mine told me nanggung and 69. So apparently the term 69 is somehow known. For Mish and cowgirl she only used top and bottom too.
About tea-bagging: the stupid auto correct of this forum deleted my irony-marker. I hate this software from the last millennium.Most girls understand "Ice cream" for giving BJ and "keluar perut" if you do her raw and cum outisde.
Thanks a lot XXL!
A regular of mine told me nanggung and 69. ..Nungging, not nanggung. Nanggung is a town.
Thanks a lot XXL!
Actually, I asked a mami. She had no idea.
A regular of mine told me nanggung and 69. So apparently the term 69 is somehow known. For Mish and cowgirl she only used top and bottom too.
About tea-bagging: the stupid auto correct of this forum deleted my irony-marker. I hate this software from the last millennium.One way to handle it is by, before you post anything that's longer than a few sentences, do a copy of the whole text you are about to post. Then immediately afterwards, click "edit", paste in the text you copied, remove the old text, and post it again.
Yea man, when I was doing my research on Jakarta (starting last April) I ran across some of your posts in particular in regards to the old train tacks. I don't think it's the same as the current train tracks. I saw several posts of yours in the Jakarta oldtimers section too.
Indeed the old rail tracks were within walking distance of Shangri-La hotel. When rail track denizens asked me where I came from, I pointed to the Shangri-La building proudly standing out in full light. It felt like I was telling them I came from the moon. I remember many years ago reading some news about those older rail tracks having been evacuated and shut down at city council's behest. The ground where they stood may have been engulfed by the vast contruction works now going on in a wide perimeter around Shangri-La.
BenderOver
02-05-25, 07:29
Nothing much to report as I repeated at Emporium with yesterday's girl.
I tried getting cash from a CIM Niaga ATM in the underground floor at Plaza Indonesia. After I changed the amount 1500000 to 3000000 the machine displayed "processing your transaction". I waited for what felt like ages, no money came. Eventually the machine asked "do you need more time? I chose "no" and got my card back. Luckily I now see no charge or pre-authorisation in my banking app, so at least I didn't lose any money. This incident incentivates me even more to patronise places where I don't need to pay cash.
Along the way I had a long chat with a taxi driver about girls. He recommended 2 venues:
Fashion Hotel.
Maxwell Hotel.I actually wrote a report about a bunch of ATM's and included this one in my write up.
Right after you change the amount to 3,000,000 it may ask you for which account you want to draft it from and most choose "Current". Then it asks you if you want to use the exchange rate, and if you touch the left side it's NO and you pay the 75,000 fee which if you're lucky you have a bank that will refund ATM fees.
Then it does this "Waiting" or "Processing" thing and nothing happens. HERE IS THE SECRET.
The program is working on a touch screen, and it's written for a push button. If you go somewhere and find a CIMB push button, you'll see the same screen program, same waiting. The thing you're waiting for is to push for the "ACCEPT FEE" button which isn't on the screen.
So if you just touch the screen, far right, about 60% of the way down, just touch the screen, touch 1/2 inch to the left, up, down, just try to find on the screen where that stupid touch screen is waiting for you to accept the 75,000 fee, you will know you found it when you hear the money counter spin up inside the ATM.
Yeah that's my favorite ATM also. Next to the PUYO pudding kiosk, right?
The mamasan warned me up front the pool was not available because of a private party. This, maybe, should have been a redflag. Not because I wanted to use the pool - I never do, I always take the girl direct to the room - but because this may have meant all the good girls were taken. Indeed the line-up looked shabby. Girls with big heads and rectangular body-shape.
I picked a girl with a pretty face. In the room she turned out overly shy, obviously 100% inexperienced. She knew what 69 and doggystyle were but she could do neither. In 69 she tensed away from me when my face got too near her pussy. In doggy she twisted and didn't arch properly. My cock went limp for good. This was worse than a bad session at Classic's because here there was drama. She kept begging me to try again, to stay longer, asked whether I was disappointed etc. She acted like in terror I would complain. I didn't though, what for? I felt sorry for her. She was friendly and acted like she wanted us to cuddle and kiss. Alas, I'm anything but the cuddling kissing type.
Lesson learnt. Better stick to downmarket venues like Classic, where I can have 4 sessions for the price of 1 Emporium session, and where the line-up is, on closer scrutiny, not worse and maybe even better.
Changing the subject: if any of you guys have ExpressVPN, do not set in to "Indonesia". My Telkomsel internet suddenly ceased to work. I cursed Telkomsel for a while before it worked again after I switched the server to another country. This is silly because ExpressVPN has "Indonesia" as default (recommended) server.
The mamasan warned me up front the pool was not available because of a private party. This, maybe, should have been a redflag. Not because I wanted to use the pool - I never do, I always take the girl direct to the room - but because this may have meant all the good girls were taken. Indeed the line-up looked shabby. Girls with big heads and rectangular body-shape.
I picked a girl with a pretty face. In the room she turned out overly shy, obviously 100% inexperienced. She knew what 69 and doggystyle were but she could do neither. In 69 she tensed away from me when my face got too near her pussy. In doggy she twisted and didn't arch properly. My cock went limp for good. This was worse than a bad session at Classic's because here there was drama. She kept begging me to try again, to stay longer, asked whether I was disappointed etc. She acted like in terror I would complain. I didn't though, what for? I felt sorry for her. She was friendly and acted like she wanted us to cuddle and kiss. Alas, I'm anything but the cuddling kissing type.
Lesson learnt. Better stick to downmarket venues like Classic, where I can have 4 sessions for the price of 1 Emporium session, and where the line-up is, on closer scrutiny, not worse and maybe even better.
Changing the subject: if any of you guys have ExpressVPN, do not set in to "Indonesia". My Telkomsel internet suddenly ceased to work. I cursed Telkomsel for a while before it worked again after I switched the server to another country. This is silly because ExpressVPN has "Indonesia" as default (recommended) server.I hate the private party scenario, I got kicked out half way of my sauna session.
Before you go inside, you can ask mamasan how many girls available, then you can have a ballpark idea whether there are good girls left. I would left if there are less than 15 girls available. Just 10 minutes walk and you can have over hundred options in classic.
I actually wrote a report about a bunch of ATM's and included this one in my write up.
Right after you change the amount to 3,000,000 it may ask you for which account you want to draft it from and most choose "Current". Then it asks you if you want to use the exchange rate, and if you touch the left side it's NO and you pay the 75,000 fee which if you're lucky you have a bank that will refund ATM fees.
Then it does this "Waiting" or "Processing" thing and nothing happens. HERE IS THE SECRET.
The program is working on a touch screen, and it's written for a push button. If you go somewhere and find a CIMB push button, you'll see the same screen program, same waiting. The thing you're waiting for is to push for the "ACCEPT FEE" button which isn't on the screen.
So if you just touch the screen, far right, about 60% of the way down, just touch the screen, touch 1/2 inch to the left, up, down, just try to find on the screen where that stupid touch screen is waiting for you to accept the 75,000 fee, you will know you found it when you hear the money counter spin up inside the ATM.
Yeah that's my favorite ATM also. Next to the PUYO pudding kiosk, right?Why not use an ATM where there are no fees charged such as BRI and then just do 3 withdrawals of 1200 k? Wouldn't that make more sense? Even if you have schwab you still have to wait for the fee to be reimbursed, it isn't instant.
Just wanted to know how likely would it be to get girl that would be into it? I know these girls probably have around 5 men seeing them everyday but is it just a pump and dump?
Also, I understand that the time for one person is an hour but say you finish with the first half and hour, are you allowed to go again? Or at least play with the girl even if you can't get it up?
Do they just rush you out after you ejaculated?
Has anyone been to this area and share location and any kind of information or the girls thanks.
Why not use an ATM where there are no fees charged such as BRI and then just do 3 withdrawals of 1200 k? Wouldn't that make more sense? Even if you have schwab you still have to wait for the fee to be reimbursed, it isn't instant.If I had to withdraw cash again I'd use one of the CBA ATMs upstairs at Grand Indonesia Mall. I was able to get 2 millions at one go there. Not to be mixed up with the CIMB ATMs downstairs at Plaza Indonesia where I got no money at all, only "waiting for transaction to complete" with no end in sight. I won't need to withdraw cash again though. I brought enough euros in cash. There's nothing more stress and hassle free for me than exchanging hard currency at Dolarindo near Classic.
If you change more than 15 juta the dolarindo even comes to your place if you want.
One repeat girl from Classic gave me her whatasapp as we seem to get along fine. However I notice Whatsapp flagged the number as "professional number" or "business number". I now suspect she gave me the Whatsapp of the mamason, not her own. There are no free or even half-free agents in Jakarta, apart from freelance MILFs in town.
If you change more than 15 juta the dolarindo even comes to your place if you want.If you are exchanging USD 500 or more, you can ask for a better rate.
First confirm the exchange rate for your Currency.
Then tell them you are changing US$ 500 (or whatever the amount) and ask for a better rate.
I stopped changing at Dolarindo because different locations provide a different negotiated rate.
It depends on who is working behind the counter.
~BKK
One repeat girl from Classic gave me her whatasapp as we seem to get along fine. However I notice Whatsapp flagged the number as "professional number" or "business number". I now suspect she gave me the Whatsapp of the mamason, not her own. There are no free or even half-free agents in Jakarta, apart from freelance MILFs in town."Business number" has become very common in Jakarta.
Semi-pros and students also use Business WhatsApp accounts.
~BKK
One repeat girl from Classic gave me her whatasapp as we seem to get along fine. However I notice Whatsapp flagged the number as "professional number" or "business number". I now suspect she gave me the Whatsapp of the mamason, not her own. There are no free or even half-free agents in Jakarta, apart from freelance MILFs in town.Android phones are usually dual sim enabled. So to get whatsapp accounts for both numbers, you gotta install "Whatsapp" for SIM 1 and "Whatsapp Business app" for SIM 2. Maybe she is using one sim for personal and the other for discreet purposes. Messages sent from Whatsapp Business app usually have that tag shown.
Android phones are usually dual sim enabled. So to get whatsapp accounts for both numbers, you gotta install "Whatsapp" for SIM 1 and "Whatsapp Business app" for SIM 2. Maybe she is using one sim for personal and the other for discreet purposes. Messages sent from Whatsapp Business app usually have that tag shown.Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
Android phones are usually dual sim enabled. So to get whatsapp accounts for both numbers, you gotta install "Whatsapp" for SIM 1 and "Whatsapp Business app" for SIM 2. Maybe she is using one sim for personal and the other for discreet purposes. Messages sent from Whatsapp Business app usually have that tag shown.That's not true. I have dual SIM and use the same WhatsApp app with both numbers. If you google it you will see what WhatsApp is for business. Anyone can set it up if they want to.
Anyone going Classic this coming Sunday 9 Feb 2025 . ? Hope to party with new friends.
That's not true. I have dual SIM and use the same WhatsApp app with both numbers. If you google it you will see what WhatsApp is for business. Anyone can set it up if they want to.You misunderstood what he said. He never said you couldn't use your same WhatsApp number with data from two different Sim cards. He said if you have a phone with dual Sim you can download regular WhatsApp and activate it with one Sim and then download WhatsApp business and activate it with the other Sim. Iitterally have an android dual Sim phone and have WhatsApp with a Colombian number and WhatsApp business with a Mexico number and they both work perfectly on the same phone.
You can even download an app called parallel space and have a 2nd WhatsApp and WhatsApp business within the parallel space app and swap out Sims to activate them with numbers 3 and 4 and you can have 4 different WhatsApp accounts simultaneously all on the same phone.
"Business number" has become very common in Jakarta.
Semi-pros and students also use Business WhatsApp accounts.
~BKKWow cool. Where can I get these semi-pro and students. I used to hang around Citraland Mall and manged engage some.
Anyone want to try with me. Going Jakarta on Sunday 09 Feb for 2 days.
You misunderstood what he said. He never said you couldn't use your same WhatsApp number with data from two different Sim cards. He said if you have a phone with dual Sim you can download regular WhatsApp and activate it with one Sim and then download WhatsApp business and activate it with the other Sim. Iitterally have an android dual Sim phone and have WhatsApp with a Colombian number and WhatsApp business with a Mexico number and they both work perfectly on the same phone.
You can even download an app called parallel space and have a 2nd WhatsApp and WhatsApp business within the parallel space app and swap out Sims to activate them with numbers 3 and 4 and you can have 4 different WhatsApp accounts simultaneously all on the same phone.Okay, now I understand it. I'm not sure why you would do something like that. But I am also single and unmarried and have no secrets from myself.
Okay, now I understand it. I'm not sure why you would do something like that. But I am also single and unmarried and have no secrets from myself.Newer android phones (as of some years ago) supports something called "dual messenger" (or similar. Names vary based on vendor, but if you search for this term, you might find how to do it on your phone), and which is much easier to use.
I prefer to keep a separate "mongering" phone number, and accompanying whatsapp installed (and line via parallel space, as "dual messenger" does not support line last I checked). I do this since I do not feel any need to share more than necessary about my life, my photos, my private phone number, etc. With p4p-girls. Especially if mongering in my own local city. Never had any problem, but one never knows.
Okay, now I understand it. I'm not sure why you would do something like that. But I am also single and unmarried and have no secrets from myself.One good example I can think of:
I know a woman who runs 2 separate businesses, each with their own WhatsApp, plus another number for family and friends.
One bad example:
Girls, or guys pretending to be girls, either scamming or selling content, will often have a business account, so they can pretend to be multiple girls.
Yes very correct. Best is Samsung galaxy phones. They have something called "secure folder" where you can have 2 separate phones running on same phone.
Newer android phones (as of some years ago) supports something called "dual messenger" ...
Transporter
02-07-25, 18:41
Yes very correct. Best is Samsung galaxy phones. They have something called "secure folder" where you can have 2 separate phones running on same phone.This is something that was extremely useful a while back first with the huawei p10 phone. It basically is 2 different operating systems on the same mobile phone. You can set it up with 2 different passwords or using different finger prints. One password or fingerprint will open phone A and the other will open phone be on the same mobile phone. It was quite awesome and useful when I first started using it. I am sure it still exixts, but I have since moved to using multiple phones as it suits my needs better in the present.
This is something that was extremely useful a while back first with the huawei p10 phone. It basically is 2 different operating systems on the same mobile phone. You can set it up with 2 different passwords or using different finger prints. One password or fingerprint will open phone A and the other will open phone be on the same mobile phone. It was quite awesome and useful when I first started using it. I am sure it still exixts, but I have since moved to using multiple phones as it suits my needs better in the present.I used to live my Huawei P30. I had that phone for like 3 years, I actually still have it but just haven't used it since 2023. I'm now using a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's I picked up in Bogota for $200 usd. It has all the same specs as a more expensive Samsung phone but for like 1/4th the price.
Transporter
02-08-25, 08:37
I used to live my Huawei P30. I had that phone for like 3 years, I actually still have it but just haven't used it since 2023. I'm now using a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's I picked up in Bogota for $200 usd. It has all the same specs as a more expensive Samsung phone but for like 1/4th the price.I still have my p30 pro, loved that phone. It was the last one that had google on it. After that the phones just sucked. Too bad I can't use it any longer as it does not support 5 G.
JackDanielss
02-08-25, 14:43
Gentleman. Currently in philippines and bored and missing indo, I've only ever been to bali but spent alot of time there, a few questions I hope you can help with.
Hotels around mangga look like incredible value compared to philippines, I did great in bali with just normal girls off apps, but love having the back up of going to fishbowls. Is there any problems bringing normal girls back to a average hotel e. G. A red planet or oyo, or is Jakarta completely different when it comes to what's allowed, read through the forum and mapped out the area, but probably just better to ask yu regulars straight up?
Obviously not after your guys exact locations, but do you regulars stay in and around travel hotel, basically between Classic and Starmoon or do you stay far away and travel in for fun?
Majority of the girls I seen in bali fish bowls were from Jakarta, can I expect the same type of line up or is Jakarta its own world, I originally assumed they just got moved around and they would hae previously worked in Jakarta places before being shipped off to bali?
Love reading your posts lads, learnt alot, thanks boys.
I'm actually shocked how much a let down Philippines is compared to my years in Bali, can't wait to get to Jakarta, but I'm over bali.
Yesterday at Classic I saw some white tourists being given a low priority and several pretty girls wouldn't go into the room with the tourists.
I asked the mamasan and she said maybe the girls were afraid of big dicks.
Is it really true that if you want to go with a lady they can object on such grounds?
That's not true. I have dual SIM and use the same WhatsApp app with both numbers. If you google it you will see what WhatsApp is for business. Anyone can set it up if they want to.This seems to be recently introduced in Oct 2023. I was never aware of this until I googled it today. I have been using Whatsapp Business app for my second SIM since 2018 and I have never changed it since then. I jsut use Two apps, Whatsapp for personal number and the second sim on Whatsapp Business. I am sure that's the case with most people.
Yesterday at Classic I saw some white tourists being given a low priority and several pretty girls wouldn't go into the room with the tourists.
I asked the mamasan and she said maybe the girls were afraid of big dicks.
Is it really true that if you want to go with a lady they can object on such grounds?I have also noticed girls flocking to Asians or being presented to Asians and not to me. However contrary to Thailand where that too happens, in Classic I could still get the girls I wanted if I singled them out. You need to be a bit pushy if you don't want be get stuck each time with only girls some mamasans want to sell you.
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CodeName47
02-09-25, 03:07
You misunderstood what he said. He never said you couldn't use your same WhatsApp number with data from two different Sim cards. He said if you have a phone with dual Sim you can download regular WhatsApp and activate it with one Sim and then download WhatsApp business and activate it with the other Sim. Iitterally have an android dual Sim phone and have WhatsApp with a Colombian number and WhatsApp business with a Mexico number and they both work perfectly on the same phone.
You can even download an app called parallel space and have a 2nd WhatsApp and WhatsApp business within the parallel space app and swap out Sims to activate them with numbers 3 and 4 and you can have 4 different WhatsApp accounts simultaneously all on the same phone.Agree android devices have SecondSpace works great to have same app running multiple instances under another account. Switching spaces are easy and quick.
Gents.
I have been hears from local Indo-Chinese friends that Sun City Luxury Club is the place to be. Very pretty girls.
Any intel on this? Is this foreigner friendly? This place sounds crazy. Its on top of a low clas mall for constructions equipment. And the top flor is a massive stunning beautiufls Chinese dim sum resturant for families of elite chinese peoples. Felt like someihtng from Shanghi. Above is the luxury club. Please share any intel.
Yesterday at Classic I saw some white tourists being given a low priority and several pretty girls wouldn't go into the room with the tourists.
I asked the mamasan and she said maybe the girls were afraid of big dicks.
Is it really true that if you want to go with a lady they can object on such grounds?Of course a girl can object to going with you. Would you prefer she is forced to have sex with you?
Fortunately it only happened to me once (at the ground floor, the one time I went just to see what it was). That time too the mamasan said the girl was scared of big dick, but could be she just thought I was too ugly. Myself, I'm glad the girls can refuse.
I have also noticed girls flocking to Asians or being presented to Asians and not to me. However contrary to Thailand where that too happens, in Classic I could still get the girls I wanted if I singled them out. You need to be a bit pushy if you don't want be get stuck each time with only girls some mamasans want to sell you.Recently in Thailand and it's the same thing there. I went to ye olde Thermae a number of times and although I got a good amount of attention it was nowhere near as much as asian dudes. Asia produces some very handsome men like any other place but this bunch wasnt blessed to be members of that group. A few of the ladies who entertained me told me Asian dudes are popular because they nut fast, pay good tips and don't have big western the. It works out for the girls from a business perspective because they get faster turn over and get through the evening with less wear and tear. I am newly getting used to having a big the being a mark against you.
Yesterday at Classic I saw some white tourists being given a low priority and several pretty girls wouldn't go into the room with the tourists.
I asked the mamasan and she said maybe the girls were afraid of big dicks.
Thankfully, this never happened to me. I wonder how these tourists picked their girls. It seems to me that a situation like that is easy to avoid. When the mamasan presents the girls just pay attention to their behaviour. When the girl doesn't want to stay with you, she will make it quite obvious. Looking down, avoiding eye contact, no smiling at all. I'm actually very grateful for these clear signals some of these girls are sending.
Giovanni Volo
02-09-25, 22:26
Also, I understand that the time for one person is an hour but say you finish with the first half and hour, are you allowed to go again? Or at least play with the girl even if you can't get it up?
Do they just rush you out after you ejaculated?You can stay in the room a full hour, shower included.
Shot included in 365 k is one. If you like 2 in an hour you can agree with the girl for a tip, if she want. Use translator.
In both case, after you ejaculate you can stay till the end of the hour. Phone will ring. One time I booked 2 hours but the girl never want to live after, and the phone rings a lot of time. The arrive a guy to toc toc the door.
Very good place, Classic.
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Gents.
I have been hears from local Indo-Chinese friends that Sun City Luxury Club is the place to be. Very pretty girls.
Any intel on this? Is this foreigner friendly? This place sounds crazy. Its on top of a low clas mall for constructions equipment. And the top flor is a massive stunning beautiufls Chinese dim sum resturant for families of elite chinese peoples. Felt like someihtng from Shanghi. Above is the luxury club. Please share any intel.I just go to the spa, but no take girls. The spa itself is basic, try the cold pool, is extremely cold!!
It's foreigner friendly, because they explain me at the reception all kind off package but I was already empty and it was quite expensive, don't remember the price, but all include was something like 1 M. At Emporium, I pay more than Classic to enjoy the swimming pool with a girl, but here I don't see the interest. Maybe they are special things with the girls, I don't know.
The location is good, close to Jayakarta Hotel, not far from Mangga Besar, and yes, the Chinese restaurent is impressive, the menu looks appetizing, I will try it in my next visit, in April.
When leaving, I saw 2 "terapists", they were young and beautiful, but you can find girls like that in classic sometimes.
If you are ready to spend money, just try.
For the anecdote, I arrive the opposite of the mall, security take me to main entrance in a sort of golf cart, they are friendly and helpful.
When you go in those place, just try to be well dressed, they judge us.
Second anecdote, in the spa, there was local who phoned it's friend (the speaker was on), the conversation was something like: "Where are you? I am In Jakarta. Haaa Jakarta, girls. Hé hé hé".
We are not the only ones, who enjoys Jakarta.
Thanks for the intels. Very helpful. I am curious to check out based on feedback from local friends.
But it sounds like its not that preimum from your discripion. But maybe therapist are attractive.
That might be a bit far for me. I usually go to overpriced Fortune Spa in sudirman. Its expensive and I hear women are not as attractive as Emporium or other places. However, the location is very central biz area. And nice spa area. Jajaja. Don't want to sit in traffic for 30 minutes when I am hornies!
Thank you.
I just go to the spa, but no take girls. The spa itself is basic, try the cold pool, is extremely cold!!
It's foreigner friendly, because they explain me at the reception all kind off package but I was already empty and it was quite expensive, don't remember the price, but all include was something like 1 M. At Emporium, I pay more than Classic to enjoy the swimming pool with a girl, but here I don't see the interest. Maybe they are special things with the girls, I don't know.
The location is good, close to Jayakarta Hotel, not far from Mangga Besar, and yes, the Chinese restaurent is impressive, the menu looks appetizing, I will try it in my next visit, in April.
When leaving, I saw 2 "terapists", they were young and beautiful, but you can find girls like that in classic sometimes.
If you are ready to spend money, just try.
For the anecdote, I arrive the opposite of the mall, security take me to main entrance in a sort of golf cart, they are friendly and helpful.
When you go in those place, just try to be well dressed, they judge us.
Second anecdote, in the spa, there was local who phoned it's friend (the speaker was on), the conversation was something like: "Where are you? I am In Jakarta. Haaa Jakarta, girls. H h h".
We are not the only ones, who enjoys Jakarta.
BenderOver
02-13-25, 13:00
Thankfully, this never happened to me. I wonder how these tourists picked their girls. It seems to me that a situation like that is easy to avoid. When the mamasan presents the girls just pay attention to their behaviour. When the girl doesn't want to stay with you, she will make it quite obvious. Looking down, avoiding eye contact, no smiling at all. I'm actually very grateful for these clear signals some of these girls are sending.Was at KI and one of the five girls actually hid behind the other 4. Unfortunate too, because she was the prettiest one with the nicest body. But I got the message and moved on to the next place.
PartyAnimal
02-14-25, 09:01
Guys. Looking forward on a good rimming experience. Any leads?
Guys. Looking forward on a good rimming experience. Any leads?Just make sure your bung hole is clean, tongue worthy! And at least half an inch inward too, if you happen to cum across a "prober".
Guys. Looking forward on a good rimming experience. Any leads?Can't help you but what you need to ask for is "Mandi Kucing" or "Mandi Kucing Total". The one's in classic and the like do not generally do it as far as I know. Maybe someone else can give more meaningful intel. Let us know how you get along.
Hi,
May I ask where to get std test in Jakarta as a foreigner without getting that weird look by the medical staff?
Can I buy rapid test from pharmacy?
Where to buy antibiotic?
HarryReams
02-15-25, 04:38
Hi,
May I ask where to get std test in Jakarta as a foreigner without getting that weird look by the medical staff?
Can I buy rapid test from pharmacy?
Where to buy antibiotic?What tests are you looking for? Covid for example isn't much of an issue these days.
Where to buy antibiotic?If you have gonorrhea, in most pharmacy (apotek) you can find azithromycin to treat it, no need to have a prescription, takes 2 days to heal, but even after it's recommend to have no sex at least 5 days. Enjoy a surfing trip to Bali while healing.
I read azithromycin it's not as efficient as before, don't be shy in the pharmacy to describe your problem, they are here to help you and health is important.
You have "Super Saver Pharmacy", next to Lokasari Plaza, they know that kind of problems.
Be a nice guy, buy a treatment to your partner too.
It was months ago but I am*writing for my record in case of any future visit.
I went there on Monday night at 11 pm. It was right after checking at Classic, which had a lot of girls but disappointing looks for me (maybe because I*was*too late?
At a large hall, around 15 girls were shown to me. *Two groups of girls had a different price but I could not distinguish any difference between the two*groups.
Many of them looked similar to me so it was a bit hard to pick one. But they generally looked better than Classic.
I liked the system. Changing into a gown, having relaxed time with a girl in the pool and going to*a room.
My spending was:
Entrance fee 50,000 + Tax 20,000 = 70,000.
Service 800,000 Room 300,000 And I ordered some food and drinks for us.
They added 21% tax to this subtotal of service / room / food.
They*accept credit cards without an upcharge.
What tests are you looking for? Covid for example isn't much of an issue these days.Just as a side note it's so difficult to find a pharmacy that sells a Covid test in Jakarta. Not kidding I went to 12 different pharmacies before I found one that had them in stock.
Muzungufotsy
02-16-25, 00:10
Hi,
May I ask where to get std test in Jakarta as a foreigner without getting that weird look by the medical staff?
Can I buy rapid test from pharmacy?
Where to buy antibiotic?For STD test you go to clinic. For antibiotics you go to pharmacy. Isn't that obvious?
Muzungufotsy
02-16-25, 00:11
Just as a side note it's so difficult to find a pharmacy that sells a Covid test in Jakarta. Not kidding I went to 12 different pharmacies before I found one that had them in stock.Why in hell do you want to test for COVID in 2025? It s useless anyway.
For STD test you go to clinic. For antibiotics you go to pharmacy. Isn't that obvious?Whats the procedure for foreigner? Can any clinic take foreigner bloodtest?
Any std friendly clinic?
Looking for general std test, Chlamydia, gnorrhea, urea plasma, herpes etc. Not HIV.
Most pharmacy don't well antibiotic without doctor prescription.
JohnWick6969
02-16-25, 13:57
Whats the procedure for foreigner? Can any clinic take foreigner bloodtest?
Any std friendly clinic?
Looking for general std test, Chlamydia, gnorrhea, urea plasma, herpes etc. Not HIV.
Most pharmacy don't well antibiotic without doctor prescription.Why the procedure should be different for foreigner? It s a business here. You pay you get what you want. Easy.
You have many clinics. Just Google it. Depends where you stay.
As for buying antibiotics nobody ever asked me for prescription here. So easier for foreigner than for local.
Why you try to make it complicated dude?
Why in hell do you want to test for COVID in 2025? It s useless anyway.After my trip I had elderly grandparents visiting. Usual post lunar new year thing.
Whats the procedure for foreigner? Can any clinic take foreigner bloodtest?
Any std friendly clinic?
Looking for general std test, Chlamydia, gnorrhea, urea plasma, herpes etc. Not HIV.
Most pharmacy don't well antibiotic without doctor prescription. That comment right there tells us that you haven't even been to Indonesia.
PartyAnimal
02-19-25, 11:29
Emporium. Met Michel. Nice experience. Went during the day so was empty. Therefore the pool / jacuzzi experience was less awkward. While Michel doesn't have a great body or face vs some of the best looking ones, her service was very good. She still needs to learn avoiding teeth while BJ, her riding skills are insane. Never did once she ask for me to be on top / do the hard work. Infact after 15 minutes I asked if she was tired, said no and started grinding harder. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and later came in doggy. Only thing was she took a very quick shower which made me a bit concerned for hygiene. But overall good experience. Still looking for a rimming queen.
PartyAnimal
02-19-25, 11:31
Can't help you but what you need to ask for is "Mandi Kucing" or "Mandi Kucing Total". The one's in classic and the like do not generally do it as far as I know. Maybe someone else can give more meaningful intel. Let us know how you get along.Thanks. I think China and middle eastern girls spoiled my habits. Doesn't seem to be a big thing in Jakarta.
LetMeIn6969
02-20-25, 06:11
Thanks. I think China and middle eastern girls spoiled my habits. Doesn't seem to be a big thing in Jakarta.Go to Classic, ask mama Cha Cha for Nia. She does rimming. One thing that I usually do is that while taking a shower together, I made her wash my ass real good. That way she knows that it's clean and won't hesitate to Mandi Kucing.
MrHappyKat
02-21-25, 02:27
At Gabacho,
I saw in one of your recent posts that you had to get a Visa extension.
I will be arriving from Thailand in Jakarta on 4/1/25 and plan on getting a Visa On Entry as a US citizen. But my total stay will be 35 days.
Were you able to use a service like https://www.letsmoveindonesia.com/ to handle your extension process? Or did you do something else?
I don't mind paying a premium price for a service provider, considering they have the experience and can make it easier and faster.
What do you think?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
At Gabacho,
I saw in one of your recent posts that you had to get a Visa extension.
I will be arriving from Thailand in Jakarta on 4/1/25 and plan on getting a Visa On Entry as a US citizen. But my total stay will be 35 days.
Were you able to use a service like https://www.letsmoveindonesia.com/ to handle your extension process? Or did you do something else?
I don't mind paying a premium price for a service provider, considering they have the experience and can make it easier and faster.
What do you think?
Thanks for any help you can provide.I didn't use any third party service to do my EVOA or the extension. I did them both entirely on my own through the Imigrasi Indonesia website.
https://www.imigrasi.go.id/
At the top right hand corner you can chose English.
You will want to fill out the EVOA before you arrive to Indonesia but not more than 90 days in advance. As a rule of thumb most people do it within a week or so of their arrival. Everything is pretty straightforward. You need to show proof of plane tickets (arrival and departure from Indonesia) and travel dates and type in an address to a hotel or airbnb. Upload pictures of your passport information page, and a recent photo. Answer all the questions which are basic questions about your travel plans, and then after you have submitted everything you have to pay a 500 k IDR ($32 usd) fee with a visa or mastercard.
While everything is pretty simple, the website itself is very finicky. Often times you will have to go back to fill in a field you missed and then all the other fields will get erased and you find yourself having to redo everything a cpl times to get it right, but once you get it all filled out correctly and submitted it will take you to a different landing page to make the payment and a 60 minute timer will appear. Again the payment page is finicky and it kept declining one of my debit cards eventhough I had sufficient funds available to cover to 500 k IDR ($32 usd) fee. Luckily, I have more than one card, so I tried it with a back up card and then it finally charged me and went through. So if you run into that problem just try using a different card until one works.
After making the successful payment I received an email pretty much instantly and inside that email was my Electronic Visa On Arrival (EVOA). Once you arrive you just show the immigration officer your phone with that on the screen and they put a sticker in your passport and let you right in. There are also some E-Gates you can use too and you just scan the barcode from the bottom of the EVOA document and then the gates open up and you don't even have to talk to an immigration officer, but I think someone reported recently that due to construction the E-gates were closed but that was a while back so it could be open again.
After 14 days have passed since your arrival to Indonesia you can go back to the imigrasi Indonesia website and go back into your account to look up your EVOA (the same document from the email is also stored in their website) and there will be a button that says "extend" or "extension" if I remember correctly. Just click on that and then it's basically like doing the same process a second time. I even used the same onward plane ticket and everything from the first one, and I think everything was prefilled when I did the extension so that made it a little easier. Then you have the same landing page again with the same 500 k IDR fee again. Once you successfully get the payment to go through then it will say processing but unlike the first one I didn't get an instant email with the extension. It didn't arrive until 9 days later actually. However I have read on reddit that once they take the 500 k fee from your card you are good. Just screen shot that receipt page and keep that to show imigrasi when you leave. They cannot charge you for overstaying if you paid for an extension. Since your only staying 5 days more than the original 30 you may not get the new extension document before you leave but if you show them that you paid for the extension you will be fine.
Also the reason why I recommend doing it thru the website as opposed to just showing up with nothing but your passport and then paying for a VOA in person is because then you cannot extend it online and you will have to physically go to the imigrasi office to pay for your extension in person and that may be a hassle. For example depending on which address you give them for your hotel it will assign you to a specific imigrasi office of which there are many for example Jakarta Barat and Jakarta Pusat are two different locations and if you may end up at the wrong one and have to go to the other one and wasting a considerable amount of time.
-Gabacho.
A little update in my Indonesia trip I am having good time almost every day I go to classic when I am in Jakarta, I have visited Surabaya and had good experience in Superior spa and Bali Rps spa, but I am having bad experiences almost in every city in Indonesia through Mi chat girls they want me to call incharge person Aka pimp to confirm booking, in Bali when I went to a hotel they want me to deposit 500 k in bank and will be return when I leave, I walk away and someone was calling me on WhatsApp video call and saying in Indonesia which I did not understand he had a uniform kind of police or security hidding his face with mask, I immediately block him I got a message from some other number saying to sort it out before they pick me up from my hotel, I was not scared but just worried since I did not do anything wrong or involve in any act and they don't know where I am, and in Surabaya also same thing happen but story was different there I call a girl to my hotel but she was not the same as photo, luckily I did not gave her my room number, after some time they started calling me on what's app I ignore them.
So long story short is it normal in Indonesia to call person incharge / pimp to book freelancer girl, anyone also experienced such thing or it's just me, let me know if any one has reliable contact pimp who does not want any advance or to extort money, I wanted girl to stay with me in hotel for few days, Tinder did not work for me so far not too many matches. Thanks.
A little update in my Indonesia trip I am having good time almost every day I go to classic when I am in Jakarta, I have visited Surabaya and had good experience in Superior spa and Bali Rps spa, but I am having bad experiences almost in every city in Indonesia through Mi chat girls they want me to call incharge person Aka pimp to confirm booking, in Bali when I went to a hotel they want me to deposit 500 k in bank and will be return when I leave, I walk away and someone was calling me on WhatsApp video call and saying in Indonesia which I did not understand he had a uniform kind of police or security hidding his face with mask, I immediately block him I got a message from some other number saying to sort it out before they pick me up from my hotel, I was not scared but just worried since I did not do anything wrong or involve in any act and they don't know where I am, and in Surabaya also same thing happen but story was different there I call a girl to my hotel but she was not the same as photo, luckily I did not gave her my room number, after some time they started calling me on what's app I ignore them.
So long story short is it normal in Indonesia to call person incharge / pimp to book freelancer girl, anyone also experienced such thing or it's just me, let me know if any one has reliable contact pimp who does not want any advance or to extort money, I wanted girl to stay with me in hotel for few days, Tinder did not work for me so far not too many matches. Thanks.Big issue with fakes in Indonesia from my experience.
Even when you ask them repeatedly if they are real pics, they will out and out lie to you.
I also went on an "authentic" Tinder date with someone which was a complete disaster.
You just have to keep your wits about you and know this is part of the practice in Indonesia. Still not as dodgy as in Vietnam.
MrHappyKat
02-22-25, 08:36
Thank you. Great intel.
I didn't use any third party service to do my EVOA or the extension. I did them both entirely on my own through the Imigrasi Indonesia website.
https://www.imigrasi.go.id/
At the top right hand corner you can chose English.
You will want to fill out the EVOA before you arrive to Indonesia but not more than 90 days in advance. As a rule of thumb most people do it within a week or so of their arrival. Everything is pretty straightforward. You need to show proof of plane tickets (arrival and departure from Indonesia) and travel dates and type in an address to a hotel or airbnb. Upload pictures of your passport information page, and a recent photo. Answer all the questions which are basic questions about your travel plans, and then after you have submitted everything you have to pay a 500 k IDR ($32 usd) fee with a visa or mastercard.
While everything is pretty simple, the website itself is very finicky. Often times you will have to go back to fill in a field you missed and then all the other fields will get erased and you find yourself having to redo everything a cpl times to get it right, but once you get it all filled out correctly and submitted it will take you to a different landing page to make the payment and a 60 minute timer will appear. Again the payment page is finicky and it kept declining one of my debit cards eventhough I had sufficient funds available to cover to 500 k IDR ($32 usd) fee. Luckily, I have more than one card, so I tried it with a back up card and then it finally charged me and went through. So if you run into that problem just try using a different card until one works.
After making the successful payment I received an email pretty much instantly and inside that email was my Electronic Visa On Arrival (EVOA). Once you arrive you just show the immigration officer your phone with that on the screen and they put a sticker in your passport and let you right in. There are also some E-Gates you can use too and you just scan the barcode from the bottom of the EVOA document and then the gates open up and you don't even have to talk to an immigration officer, but I think someone reported recently that due to construction the E-gates were closed but that was a while back so it could be open again.
After 14 days have passed since your arrival to Indonesia you can go back to the imigrasi Indonesia website and go back into your account to look up your EVOA (the same document from the email is also stored in their website) and there will be a button that says "extend" or "extension" if I remember correctly. Just click on that and then it's basically like doing the same process a second time. I even used the same onward plane ticket and everything from the first one, and I think everything was prefilled when I did the extension so that made it a little easier. Then you have the same landing page again with the same 500 k IDR fee again. Once you successfully get the payment to go through then it will say processing but unlike the first one I didn't get an instant email with the extension. It didn't arrive until 9 days later actually. However I have read on reddit that once they take the 500 k fee from your card you are good. Just screen shot that receipt page and keep that to show imigrasi when you leave. They cannot charge you for overstaying if you paid for an extension. Since your only staying 5 days more than the original 30 you may not get the new extension document before you leave but if you show them that you paid for the extension you will be fine.
Also the reason why I recommend doing it thru the website as opposed to just showing up with nothing but your passport and then paying for a VOA in person is because then you cannot extend it online and you will have to physically go to the imigrasi office to pay for your extension in person and that may be a hassle. For example depending on which address you give them for your hotel it will assign you to a specific imigrasi office of which there are many for example Jakarta Barat and Jakarta Pusat are two different locations and if you may end up at the wrong one and have to go to the other one and wasting a considerable amount of time.
-Gabacho.
Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.
Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?
Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.
Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?It lies South of Monas. It is not too bad a location but not the very best either. By very best I mean Moevenpick, Red Top, Luminor Pecenongan. However is is reasonably well-located with respect to the Grand Indonesia shopping mall where you may want to hang out for meals and for withdrawing cash.
Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.
Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?I stayed there I didn't like the hotel at breakfast time it was very minimal and didn't ebony the food think corn flakes but worst tasting no flavour.
Had girls back here no problem.
Outside can't walk anywhere need transport.
Hi you can use your points at Four seasons Sheraton as well. Aloft is a few minutes walk from the main road whereas Sheraton is on the main road opposite the busway and around the 24 HR restaurants.
No issue in either place with guests you may find sometimes a few mamasan around the Ibis hotel. Aloft is cleaner more quieter and more comfortable.
Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.
Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?
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