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Yes, Four points Sheraton is good option, very close to Sarinah mall (lot of food options).
Also I found best rate for USD near Sarinah mall.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rDUH4UWJG4d3UsHo8
When going to Classic, you can just get out of the hotel and catch Grab, but when coming back, make sure you put destination to Menara Cakrawala (quick walk to hotel), because Grab will need to make a you-turn from far away to get to hotel.
Also some girls working in hotel are available for dating. Some girls work there as intern who they live far away from city. I met one intern and she was up for spending night with me, only issue I had to book another hotel for that night as she could not stay in same hotel. But it was fun to date a hotel girl, never though that would even possible.
Hi you can use your points at Four seasons Sheraton as well. Aloft is a few minutes walk from the main road whereas Sheraton is on the main road opposite the busway and around the 24 HR restaurants.
No issue in either place with guests you may find sometimes a few mamasan around the Ibis hotel. Aloft is cleaner more quieter and more comfortable.
I have stayed at both places on points.
I do not recommend either.
The hotel and rooms at 4 points are dated.
Aloft rooms were a bit nicer, lobby was cool.
But I had roaches in my room.
Explorer8939
02-24-25, 15:40
If only there were a topic about Jakarta. Hotels!
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels
If only there was a section called Jakarta Hotels.
Any intel on whether our favorite places are open during the Ramandan. Any needs to worry about police busts or other public shaming during this holy timings?
MrHappyKat
03-01-25, 06:40
I had originally booked my visit for this March, until I realized that it corresponds with the month-long holiday. My research indicated that almost ALL businesses will be closed. Restaurants may be open after sunset. Businesses that cater to travel like hotels will be open. But many retail stores, spas and other adult-oriented venues will almost certainly be closed. In addition, or as a consequence, most girls will leave the city to stay with family.
I suggest that if you can wait, do so.
Any intel on whether our favorite places are open during the Ramandan. Any needs to worry about police busts or other public shaming during this holy timings?
Any intel on whether our favorite places are open during the Ramandan. Any needs to worry about police busts or other public shaming during this holy timings?A girl in Classic told me only 4 days closure during Ramadan. However, visiting Jakarta during Ramadan is unwise, bordering on foolish if you ask me. There's no upside, only downside.
A girl in Classic told me only 4 days closure during Ramadan. However, visiting Jakarta during Ramadan is unwise, bordering on foolish if you ask me. There's no upside, only downside.The advantages are very light traffic, and restaurants are almost empty prior to 6 pm. Then go home and jerk the gerkin.
What are the dates that places might be close during this? Planing in arrival March 12th. Thanks.
For the dates. Check the dates online. But I think its the last week of March and first week of April that will be closed.
However, in my past expereince of non sex stuffs. There is still resturants, malls, hotels places that are opens during time in Central Jakarta because there are many Indo-Chinese and non muslims living in city. So is stuff to do. I don't know about spas, gogo bars and other establishments.
Also know there will be girls on Tinder and SA looking for cash, esp in the days leading up to the final Ramandan days, so they can take money back home to the villages. So I would nots rule out Jakarta during March. Maybe just last week and first week of Aprils. And its great because there is NO traffic and less pollutions. Its great time.
Currently some places are open but at a greatly reduced staff and most are only open till 12 pm. Anything too local is a ghost town, the more Chinese oriented clubs like classic are open. Most of the girls I know are home with family for most of the month, not sure about the first week of April. Still fun to be had but considerably more punters then hot chicks at the moment.
GentileBear
03-06-25, 04:22
As embarrassing as it is. Thought I Would provide a newbie Caveat. Especially for us from USA who fly to Indo: (Feel free to roll your eyes, indeed I made a rookie move):
Important: Change your IDR back into USD prior to coming back. Prior to getting to CGK Jakarta airport!- IF you were like me and taking an early morning flight. I found myself in CGK around 4:30 AM with a fist full of IDR and no money changer kiosks were open. (This isn't the eye roll Que just yet) - I assumed that around 5 AM they would open. And my flight was leaving 6:10 AM. So plenty of time right? Nope. I even walked then briskly walked and none of the small kiosks are open. Not even the souvinere shops! Well, no problem. I'll just trade in my IDR in Japan at the Narita NRT airport! Time to eye roll!
The Japanese currency exchange shop in Narita airport should be an easy transfer. Especially since I am from USA and Japan and Indonesia are asian countries. How much could transferring IDR into YEN and then YEN into USD?
5,540,459 IDR was about $340 USD and I received about $123.00 USD! Lost about 70%! Yes, I should have said NO! And see what the rate would be in USA at LAX or even holding onto the IDR for future Info travels. But I was a dumbass!
Don't be a dumbass. Indonesia airports and Jakarta malls do not have 97 easy to transfer money shops like Pattaya! I did not exchange my USD while in Jakarta because they usually want your original passport to do any transactions and I assumed an airport kiosk money changer would be open.
Lesson Learned!
As embarrassing as it is. Thought I Would provide a newbie Caveat. Especially for us from USA who fly to Indo: (Feel free to roll your eyes, indeed I made a rookie move):
Important: Change your IDR back into USD prior to coming back. Prior to getting to CGK Jakarta airport!- IF you were like me and taking an early morning flight. I found myself in CGK around 4:30 AM with a fist full of IDR and no money changer kiosks were open. (This isn't the eye roll Que just yet) - I assumed that around 5 AM they would open. And my flight was leaving 6:10 AM. So plenty of time right? Nope. I even walked then briskly walked and none of the small kiosks are open. Not even the souvinere shops! Well, no problem. I'll just trade in my IDR in Japan at the Narita NRT airport! Time to eye roll!
The Japanese currency exchange shop in Narita airport should be an easy transfer. Especially since I am from USA and Japan and Indonesia are asian countries. How much could transferring IDR into YEN and then YEN into USD?
5,540,459 IDR was about $340 USD and I received about $123.00 USD! Lost about 70%! Yes, I should have said NO! And see what the rate would be in USA at LAX or even holding onto the IDR for future Info travels. But I was a dumbass!
Don't be a dumbass. Indonesia airports and Jakarta malls do not have 97 easy to transfer money shops like Pattaya! I did not exchange my USD while in Jakarta because they usually want your original passport to do any transactions and I assumed an airport kiosk money changer would be open.
Lesson Learned!YMMV as I'm based in Hong Kong and I get excellent rates when I change them back here.
SeanWilkds
03-06-25, 19:50
A girl in Classic told me only 4 days closure during Ramadan. However, visiting Jakarta during Ramadan is unwise, bordering on foolish if you ask me. There's no upside, only downside.I was there last year for a few weeks during Ramadan, and I seem to remember Classic being fairly decent actually. I was frustrated by the limited street foods available and feeling like the city was very quiet but from memory places like Classic and KI, and Kelapa Gading were operating pretty much as usual. Since then I returned twice and enjoyed it more because of the city being more busy and having more options of places to go etc. I am actually thinking of coming back again soon, but just hesitating a bit considering Ramadan and wondering if perhaps the girl situation was worse than I seem to remember. Any other members have similar / contrary opinions?
KaliSedang
03-07-25, 10:16
Guys. Looking forward on a good rimming experience. Any leads?Try Bulan in Classic Spa. I didn't try it myself, but she brought it up unprompted as she's proud of it among her other skills.
In other news, Kota Indah bars should be back to normal from March 8th, though I'll just stay in the Classic Spa for now. Much more relaxed and less smoke and drinks which I don't do.
Try Bulan in Classic Spa. I didn't try it myself, but she brought it up unprompted as she's proud of it among her other skills.
In other news, Kota Indah bars should be back to normal from March 8th, though I'll just stay in the Classic Spa for now. Much more relaxed and less smoke and drinks which I don't do.Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?
Member #3088
03-08-25, 03:01
Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?In this context, the meaning of Bulan is "Moon". "Fajar" is "Dawn". "Surya" is "Sun". Fajar can be male or female, Surya typically male.
KaliSedang
03-08-25, 08:25
Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?Just her stage name. I think she told me her real name as well but I didn't remember. It also means moon, and quite the common name here.
Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?Bulan can also mean "moon", anyway, it's not her real name.
Even no pro girls can have 2 name.
Every each Indo girls are in reality 2 girls inside, with 2 phone numbers, 2 facebooks ... one is the adventurous girl who you meet on dating app, in your hotel room, she wants everything, money, travel, muscular fit men or just fun. The other one is the girl who interact with her family, friends or her community, the wise one.
HolaaaaHiiii
03-08-25, 08:59
I really like a Mamasan at classic. She is a little fat but huge titties haha. And she is very friendly to me. I also have her whatsapp number.
Is it possible to hookup with mamasans when they are off work hours and should I take her to a lunch date and then the room or directly tell her I like her and wait for her to come up with an offer.
HolaaaaHiiii
03-08-25, 09:13
Second night in Jakarta and still haven't gone to the bars because there are so many options on Seeking. First night was a tall drink of water that works at a mobile phone kiosk and tonight was a hijabi that works at Gojek head office. Of course I asked her to keep her hijab on which was super hot, probably because it's so haram.
I very much prefer regular girls to pros even if they're not quite as skilled. Plus I got upgraded to a suite so it seems like a shame to not use it.
There must not be a lot of SDs in Indonesia because the girls are so responsive and it's hard not to line up one for everyday. The price range is all over the map (from 1-5 mill) but it's easy to just next the high asking prices because there are plenty who will accept 2 or 3. Not the 365 k at Classic mind you, and I will make it there to see what the fuss is about.
Can you get two at the same time?Can I ask if you asked out the girls directly or did you find them on some app.
I really like a Mamasan at classic. She is a little fat but huge titties haha. And she is very friendly to me. I also have her whatsapp number.
Is it possible to hookup with mamasans when they are off work hours and should I take her to a lunch date and then the room or directly tell her I like her and wait for her to come up with an offer.Is it too obvious to suggest you simply ... ask her? Ask her if she'd like to met you for lunch tomorrow at your hotel.
Just her stage name. I think she told me her real name as well but I didn't remember. It also means moon, and quite the common name here.Your name Kali ... any reference to the art? If so, any experience with practicing the indonesian equivalent in Jakarta?
BenderOver
03-09-25, 21:22
As embarrassing as it is. Thought I Would provide a newbie Caveat. Especially for us from USA who fly to Indo: (Feel free to roll your eyes, indeed I made a rookie move):
Important: Change your IDR back into USD prior to coming back. Prior to getting to CGK Jakarta airport!- IF you were like me and taking an early morning flight. I found myself in CGK around 4:30 AM with a fist full of IDR and no money changer kiosks were open. (This isn't the eye roll Que just yet) - I assumed that around 5 AM they would open. And my flight was leaving 6:10 AM. So plenty of time right? Nope. I even walked then briskly walked and none of the small kiosks are open. Not even the souvinere shops! Well, no problem. I'll just trade in my IDR in Japan at the Narita NRT airport! Time to eye roll!
The Japanese currency exchange shop in Narita airport should be an easy transfer. Especially since I am from USA and Japan and Indonesia are asian countries. How much could transferring IDR into YEN and then YEN into USD?
5,540,459 IDR was about $340 USD and I received about $123.00 USD! Lost about 70%! Yes, I should have said NO! And see what the rate would be in USA at LAX or even holding onto the IDR for future Info travels. But I was a dumbass!
Don't be a dumbass. Indonesia airports and Jakarta malls do not have 97 easy to transfer money shops like Pattaya! I did not exchange my USD while in Jakarta because they usually want your original passport to do any transactions and I assumed an airport kiosk money changer would be open.
Lesson Learned!I leave Indo usually assuming I'd be back and keep about 1 M to 2 M handy for cash the next time I'm back in town. There's a few reasons I've run into that require this backup:
1) I usually use Grab, but one time, I landed in Jakarta and the Grab App required that I authentic my form of payment, and the software glitched up. My credit card never asked for verification. So because Grab wanted to authenticate, and my credit card company refused to send me a code, I couldn't get the Grab App working. I was able to book, but I had to change my form of payment from credit card to CASH. Glad I had a few loose red bills on me.
2) In case Grab fails completely, at least I have enough loose red bills on me for a Bluebird to the hotel.
3) I'd love to start hitting the clubs right away like the day / night I land. Sometimes, the 1. 5 M limit at the really convenient ATM's just won't do. Glad I have a few extra red bills on me.
4) In case I land in Jakarta and my global bank card is glitched up. Code not working, insufficient balance, etc. Whatever can go wrong does go wrong. Glad I have a few loose red bills on me.
I start pacing my spending and conversions about 5 days before leaving so I don't end up with leaving Indo with 5 M IDR unspent, but it's not a huge deal if I did. I wouldn't have taken the 70% hit, kept the IDR, and started planning my next trip back to Indonesia while waiting at the airport.
BenderOver
03-09-25, 21:29
For the dates. Check the dates online. But I think its the last week of March and first week of April that will be closed.
However, in my past expereince of non sex stuffs. There is still resturants, malls, hotels places that are opens during time in Central Jakarta because there are many Indo-Chinese and non muslims living in city. So is stuff to do. I don't know about spas, gogo bars and other establishments.
Also know there will be girls on Tinder and SA looking for cash, esp in the days leading up to the final Ramandan days, so they can take money back home to the villages. So I would nots rule out Jakarta during March. Maybe just last week and first week of Aprils. And its great because there is NO traffic and less pollutions. Its great time.Remember that restaurants are nuts at dusk in the Malls. All the fasters are waiting for official sundown to start dining, but a good 30 minutes prior, the seats are already all booked up and filled, but nobody is eating. It's a nightmare. I recommend finding some non-halal place to eat (since the worshipers won't be dining there) so the restaurants that will have available seats would be like Korean BBQ and Song Fa, both great choices for dinner. Find them both at your big bad ass mall.
HolaaaaHiiii
03-10-25, 03:03
My mamasan contact from terminal-2 told me it's 1 pm-1 am, which is not the usual timing.
Does anybody know if the quantity of girls has gone down drastically? And is there any other terminal open until 3 am (which is the usual closure time).
I will be there 21st-24th. If any monger would like to share a drink.
Can I ask if you asked out the girls directly or did you find them on some app.I can second this. The girls on seeking are way more expensive than at classic but for me it's totally worth it. The way I look at it is I am spending the same amount I would back home to be with a low end trailer park chick for 30 minutes. For the same amount I get to be with a smoking hot 23 year old enthusiastic goddess for at least 4 hours of hardcore GFE and more often over night. Usually this entails at least 3 rounds. All of them have university degrees and are legit smart. When working out the arrangement I am very direct about what I want and so are they. I don't do the date stuff with them unti after we have have met for intimate meetings a few times. Most of the ones I meet with prefer to get down to business and skip the date part anyway. I think there is a lot of repressed sexual impulse with this demographics because their energy level is insane compared to when I was daing in college. Min asking on seeking in Jakarta is 2 mil. In Bali it's 3 mil or 200 USD. Often times they may ask more but you can bargain within reason. Yes its much more than classic but how much did you spend on your plane ticket? And the intimate time is several factors better.
Bulan can also mean "moon", anyway, it's not her real name.
Even no pro girls can have 2 name.
Every each Indo girls are in reality 2 girls inside, with 2 phone numbers, 2 facebooks ... one is the adventurous girl who you meet on dating app, in your hotel room, she wants everything, money, travel, muscular fit men or just fun. The other one is the girl who interact with her family, friends or her community, the wise one.Most of the seeking ladies live with their parents until they get married. In Jakarta a university educated woman might not get married until late 20's early 30's. I have had a number of sleep overs with friends who do all kinds of crazy stuff only to put in the hijab right before they leave because they are going home to their parents house where they live. The christian ladies seem less concerned about seeming publicly devout.
I leave Indo usually assuming I'd be back and keep about 1 M to 2 M handy for cash the next time I'm back in town. There's a few reasons I've run into that require this backup:
1) I usually use Grab, but one time, I landed in Jakarta and the Grab App required that I authentic my form of payment, and the software glitched up. My credit card never asked for verification. So because Grab wanted to authenticate, and my credit card company refused to send me a code, I couldn't get the Grab App working. I was able to book, but I had to change my form of payment from credit card to CASH. Glad I had a few loose red bills on me.
2) In case Grab fails completely, at least I have enough loose red bills on me for a Bluebird to the hotel.
....And that's why you should forget about Grab and use Gojek instead.
Does anybody know if the quantity of girls has gone down drastically?
.I'm not in Jakarta at the moment. But I have the WhatsApp of one of the mammies of Sari Ayu, KI. She frequently posts the current line up in her WhatsApp status. She just posted pictures of 85 girls. This is close to the maximum number she ever posted. I guess if KI is up and running, classic should be too. Go out and have fun!
I've been in Jakarta for a month and am treated well enough I don't care to go anywhere else, especially Bali. I'm pretty popular with certain locals but as I hang out up North (West), I'm starting to see more attractive pale women on the street and can't tell if they are available or not. Locals tell me they are Chinese, but these are real stunners and seem snobby. Can anyone shed light on these seemingly high class girls and what their jig is? I saw a tall busty 6'2" model type with hair down her back dressed down rather casually walk out of a nail salon and the worker there said she was from Thailand. Another one popped out of a streetside lingerie stand late at night. Supposebly this was in a red light district but she didn't seem the least bit friendly. Are these imported girls working at the clubs or what? I'll have to go check Club 36 and 1001 to see if they match up. There's also a tall girl selling 20 k juices dressed sexy and overly flirty roaming around at night but she turned me down in an instant!
HolaaaaHiiii
03-12-25, 03:27
I'm not in Jakarta at the moment. But I have the WhatsApp of one of the mammies of Sari Ayu, KI. She frequently posts the current line up in her WhatsApp status. She just posted pictures of 85 girls. This is close to the maximum number she ever posted. I guess if KI is up and running, classic should be too. Go out and have fun!Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.
NotConcerned
03-13-25, 00:01
I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.
Long report. Tl; dr Classic hotel was good. I got what I wanted. 365 k + 200 k tips for both nights, BBFS and CIP. No issues with the girl. Great deal.
Some background (or skip ahead if you want just the report):
To start, I'm late-30's East Asian guy and athletic looking and live in the West. I'm also on PrEP and tested regularly. I've been to many sex places throughout SE Asia, been mostly playing in Bangkok these days, I have a few regulars there. That said, I was optimistic and hopeful about Jakarta based on the reports here and was eager to try things out.
Based on what I've read, I was set on 2 things: 1) bareback sex with CIP, I have a thing for creampies. I also don't like condoms. I haven't used one in years. Of course, I was going to ask the girl for consent. If she refused, I was willing to tip. If she refused the tip, my 2nd option was to play out some of my kinks and fetishes: 2) teasing, kissing, oral, pussy eating, edging and orgasm denial. I also had some sex toys with me. Basically if the girl didn't want to have bareback raw sex then I would rather have a playful teasing session instead.
Friday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).
Arrived at 7 PM Friday night. Went up 2 sets of escalators to the bar. There were around 75-100 girls scattered all around the venue. I would say the girls were all under 30, skinny and slender looking but they all smoked. I would say they rated 6 to 8 out of 10 based on looks.
Around 60% of the tables taken. Customers were mostly mid-40's to mid-50's Asian men. They looked to be 70 local and 30 foreign based on the interactions (language fluency and hand gestures). I did not see a single white foreigner.
There was live music and karaoke until 930 PM and then the DJ started playing.
When I arrived, mamasan recommended a few girls to me. I didn't want to be rushed so I kind of batted them away. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with just a single girl. Her name was Eva, short at 5 ft2, she had pretty makeup, decent boobs, and looked like a university student. She was a smoker and had mediocre teeth. I didn't reject her and just let her stay next to me. She spoke no English. Had to rely on a translation app to communicate.
After 15 min later, I took pity on her and decided to fuck. Got a room, paid 365 K to mamasan and we went downstairs to a room.
We kissed immediately in the room, she started to open up and didn't really have any hesitations. She held a condom in her hand and I took it away and said "no condom". She said "why" and I just said "I give you tip. " She quickly agreed. Things were looking good.
We stripped. She had darker skin than I was expecting but not a dealbreaker. I showered first then she washed herself. Then got to bed, full GFE, lots of body contact, licking and teasing. I didn't make her give me BJ, that's not really my thing. I did go DATY and ate her pussy for a while then made her sit on me. She had a moderately 2-week old hairy but delicious pussy. I don't mind hairy pussies. She enjoyed the oral I gave her.
After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.
Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.
I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.
I wanted to fuck her again but I was jetlagged and tired. By 930 PM once the DJ started playing, I tapped out. I told the girl I would come back the next day.
Saturday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).
Returned the next night at 8 PM. There were more girls than the previous night. Probably over* 100 girls, same look as before. Around 80% of the tables taken. Customers were a bit more diverse but still around 70 local and 30 foreigners. They were younger 30 to 50 years old, some even in their 20's and lots of groups. Foreigners included mostly Chinese and Korean, but I saw a group of 4 white guys and 1 black guy with an Asian friend.
Mamasan wanted to recommend girls to me but I said right away I was looking for Eva again. First mamasan had no idea who that was. I walked around and didn't see her. I found another mamasan who knew her and waited a few minutes for her to come out from the back.
I had a drink with her before we went down to a room. 365 k again to mamasan. This time in the room things were a bit more relaxed. We did mostly the same as the stuff we did last night but she didn't get as wet as before.
I had a hard time penetrating her. I had lube but I wanted her to get naturally wet. It was an on and off 5-10 min of trying to get hard and trying to penetrate her bareback. Did some missionary then doggystyle then missionary before I came inside her again. Ate the creampie. I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.
The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.
I didn't have the energy to fuck again, so I left shortly after at 10 PM.
I only spent 2 nights in Jakarta but will return in a few months. I really liked the place and price. The only thing I didn't like was all the smoking but that's unavoidable in Jakarta. I also wish there was a system or separate area for people who want to return later and not have to hang out at the bar (I don't drink or party). Ideally, I'd like a place where I could go fuck in the afternoon then return later in the evening to fuck again without all the drinking, smoking, mamasan hassle.
Gaijin Gigolo
03-13-25, 01:22
I've been in Jakarta for a month and am treated well enough I don't care to go anywhere else, especially Bali. I'm pretty popular with certain locals but as I hang out up North (West), I'm starting to see more attractive pale women on the street and can't tell if they are available or not. Locals tell me they are Chinese, but these are real stunners and seem snobby. Can anyone shed light on these seemingly high class girls and what their jig is? I saw a tall busty 6'2" model type with hair down her back dressed down rather casually walk out of a nail salon and the worker there said she was from Thailand. Another one popped out of a streetside lingerie stand late at night. Supposebly this was in a red light district but she didn't seem the least bit friendly. Are these imported girls working at the clubs or what? I'll have to go check Club 36 and 1001 to see if they match up. There's also a tall girl selling 20 k juices dressed sexy and overly flirty roaming around at night but she turned me down in an instant!Where are you talking about exactly? Near Mangga Basar or further north in the PIK area? The latter is known as the 'new Chinatown' where a lot of wealthy Chinese Indonesians are living now.
HolaaaaHiiii
03-13-25, 03:44
Chindo is a thing I hear. Has anybody seen Chinese looking girls in Classic or the likes.
Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.He didn't mention KL (Kuala Lumpur) he mentioned KI (Kota Indah)and specifically Sari Ayu which is one of the larger bars in the Kota Indah compleks which is in north Jakarta.
I've never been to Malaysia but I met alot of Malaysians when I was in Jakarta who were there to monger in classic. Also reading the forums in the Malaysia section show that Kuala Lumpur is garbage compared to Jakarta.
-Gabacho.
FriendlyPlanet
03-13-25, 08:42
Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.
KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.
I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.
After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.
Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.
I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.
...
I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.
The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.
I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.
I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).
KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.You mean at Starmoon Bar.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bz9GEVGvDpVHRyKYA
NotConcerned
03-13-25, 16:00
I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.
I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.
Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.I have taken selfies with over 50 girls from classic whom I have also bareback CIPd.
First of all learn some basic bahasa phrases. Atleast tell her "kamu cantik" and be able to ask "Siapa namamu?" and "kamu darimana? And be able to make small talk like that. Contrary to what Werweq says, 200 k is not too much for bbfscip. It is within the range of what most girls at classic will accept (some will accept lower and some will demand higher). Also bbfscip is not a "basic service" such as Werweq says. Basic service is BBBJ after being wiped down with Listerine and then condom sex. And if you are getting only the basic service you shouldn't even tip 50 k. I never understood these guys tipping for nothing. Just because you do that in restaurants in the US and Canada doesn't mean you do it in a *****house in Jakarta.
That being said start out offering lower for BBFS start out at 100 k (try to learn how to say "Seratus Ribu" (Sare Ratoos Ree Boo) just like that. If she says no then go up to 150 k "Seratus, Lima puluh ribu" just like that. (this is also why it's important to get blue notes instead of red notes at the ATM. Use the machines with the Rp50,000 sticker on them). Anyways if she still says no then say 200 k duaratus ribu but don't just start out there right off the bat. That's going to give the girl all the leverage and you will miss out on paying less if she would have taken less. I was there for 2 months and found that many of them would accept 100 k or 150 k but some wanted 200 k or even more. The pretty Girl with the bow in her hair from terminal 5 for example, asks for 300 k. So you will find that there is not a set one price that they all accept for bbfscip.
Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.
Hope this helps.
Gabacho.
Source of information: Constantly going to Classic T2 and T5 in Nov and Dec 2024.
Plant Smoke
03-14-25, 05:28
How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".
Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.Please don't ruin the prices so we can have fun for a long time! I've never paid a single dollar for pictures. When you tip, which you probably do anyway, ask for a photo. They'll do it for you.
Plant Smoke
03-14-25, 08:09
Hi this is plantsmoke, I'm arriving at the end of ramadan to Jakarta. In my preparation I made a decision early between two: 1. Get info from kaskus indo. Forums 2. Translate indo. News reports.
Well I chose Indonesia news. I did not really understand kaskus. I have not seen any contributors on this forum translate kaskus reports. I guess I would not know if a report here came from kaskus or not.
Translating Indonesia news reports was extremely laborius. It started with typing psk, prostitusi Jakarta in a google box. Sorry I'm going to upload this now. I am a dumbshit andf don t know how to copy or to compose report in a email or notepad. Kind of stupid software that your log-in would time out and you would lose report. With life full of time outs such as the hour at classic and a phone call why can't WSG be differernt? There should be a tutorial here on how you keep from having yolur report dissappear.
Plant Smoke
03-14-25, 08:32
This is a add-on to JjBee62 1-30-25 tangerang massage report. I turned up this information translating Indonesia news reports. Obviously these are raw reports and because they are published.
The "powers to be" know about them too. However it is my experience that when a lokalisasi is raided, that vice does not just disappear, and when it does, it relocates usually not too far away.
Who wants to make a bet if you got a motobike in the old rawa malang cilincing lokalisasi site and asked your driver.
, "where are the girls" he would take you not very far away?
Tanjerang:
-mardigrass citra raya, panongan district. Supposedly there is a red light area here.
-kali mati area.
-pasar kemis area.
-kutabumi main market.
-cingluh factory area.
-selapajang next to gerendeng gas station.
-tanah tinggi market.
I believe this is the great equalizer to indonesias cleanse campaign. Obviously with PSK in the search box these "areas" are street hookers.
PartyAnimal
03-14-25, 09:01
Go to Classic, ask mama Cha Cha for Nia. She does rimming. One thing that I usually do is that while taking a shower together, I made her wash my ass real good. That way she knows that it's clean and won't hesitate to Mandi Kucing.Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.
PartyAnimal
03-14-25, 09:10
Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.
1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.
2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.
3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.
4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.
Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.
Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.
Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.
1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.
2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.
3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.
4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.
Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.
Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.Good to know. I'll stay away from Emporium during my forthcoming April trip. Even with the old pricing, I only found Emporium worthwhile because my hotel was a stone's throw away. I didn't find the line-up overwhelming. Also, the 2 good girls I sessioned turned out not to be available when I later wanted to repeat. Which implies, alas, that they may have plenty of overpaying customers and can afford to hike prices.
Steve 9696
03-14-25, 13:11
Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.
For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.
Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.
I don't think it's worth it to say you will tip X for that, Y for this, etc., if that's what you mean by a sliding scale. Easier to say what you want to do and that you will tip. From a negotiation point of view it reduces the risk of the girl agreeing to some of what you want, but not all, because she thinks you tipping just X for that is not worth it for her, and that instead you tipping Y for this is enough of a tip for her. When it's instead a package deal (BBFSCIP and photos for 200 k), it's easier to say yes and get the tip, than to say no and not getting the tip. If she says no to photos (I sure would if my face was showing) in the end, you can of course still offer her a lower tip for just the BB.
Except for one session (my last threesome), nobody at Classic ever demanded more than a 100 k tip from me I think. Many, maybe most, did not demand any tip upfront at all for BBFS, so I grew to consider that more or less normal service, for which they probably expected an extra tip, which I of course provided. As always, YMMV, and I had one or two girls who refused to drop the condom, even if I upped the tip.
Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.
1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.
2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.
3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.
4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.
Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.
Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.That's not nice to hear. I never cared before about the price difference between the categories much before (compared to my travel and room costs, it's too small to care about), but 1. 4 juta (with the mandatory tip) vs 1. 9 juta (with the mandatory) tip is a difference for me. Insisting you have to take a suit (no idea what I'd do there even, as it's not like you're going to spend much time in the room, especially as it's now just one hour (unlike a hotel suite) is just taking the piss IMO.
I really liked Emporivum for the pool, as it's really nice to sit and relax there with a pretty girl for 20-30 minutes an evening you're not busy, but with these extra charges I'm not sure I'll be visiting again. Maybe I'll do my part to confirm the new prices via whatsapp next summer, and then let them know I'm not visiting because of that, though I guess they've raised the prices because they have too many customers already.
Maybe I'll try 1001 for the first time instead, though one minus is, as far as I can tell from other reports here, the girl can for some reason not join you in the pool.
Expat American
03-14-25, 16:13
Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.
1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.
2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.
3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.
4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying..How recent is this? I was there less than a month ago and this was not the case at all. Firstly, the 200 K compulsory tip has been in place for awhile now but I have never had girls demand more. I have sometimes given 300 or even 500 if I got special services like BBFS or MSOG but in general 200 K is okay. I have also never been forced into a suite. They may ask but you can always ask for normal room. Threesome has always been optional. Just say no. For me the prices were simply 1. 4 or 1. 6 all in. So if things have changed it has to have been in the last couple of weeks or so.
Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.For what it's worth, it's the same at Emporvium (and everywhere else in Jakarta?), though I guess the price possibly leads the girls at Emporvium to have "less mileage". On the other hand, there are much fewer girls at Emporivum also.
NotConcerned
03-14-25, 18:28
Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.
Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.Thanks for all the feedback. I will stick to 200 k max for BBFS CIP and photos next time. Photos are just a nice to have, not a must-have. I really just want no-face nude photos together and another photo of her pussy and creampie. (I have my fetishes, please don't judge). I'll try with other girls next time.
Member #3088
03-15-25, 06:47
How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".Luckily 'tip' is 'tip' in indonesian (there are other words but "tip" is widely understood).
Also 'cash' is 'cash' in Indonesian (again, there are other words but 'cash' is widely understood).
Thus: "nanti aku kasi tip dalam bentuk cash sayang' (I will give you a tip in the form of cash my dear).
Or, less elegantly: "aku kasi tip cash sayang".
Master Monger
03-15-25, 08:40
Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.
For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!
First: You arrive in a new country start asking people how much they make a month. In Indonesia it is $200-400 a month! If we compare that to the USA or Europe where $300-400 will get you a girl in countries where the average income is $3,000-$4,000 a month then we can clearly see that ANYTHING over $20-40 in Indonesia is EXPENSIVE. The Cheapest high end place in Jakarta is be Fashion spa at 830,000 = $50 to 1. 2 m which is $74 and in my opinion it is overpriced. Paradise is 400 k which is $24 and has some of the same girls so you are obviously being overcharged. The solution is stop paying for ALL overpriced crap including FOOD! Prices have almost doubled in Indonesia in just one year! The equation works for food, hotels, and rent as well. $20 for food or $90 for hotels in countries where the income is $3,000 -4,000 a month.
Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.
PuneRomper
03-16-25, 02:14
I am visiting Ubud and Seminyak in May and would love to visit some spas where I can get action. Need to be discreet setups as I Am travelling with family and friends. Could someone recommend some places. Also would like to know typical rates for counter and for extras- would like B2 B, Blow job without condom and possibly FS.
Had posted on Bali forum, but realise it is not very active. Would appreciate some pointers.
Thanks.
I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!
First: You arrive in a new country start asking people how much they make a month. In Indonesia it is $200-400 a month! If we compare that to the USA or Europe where $300-400 will get you a girl in countries where the average income is $3,000-$4,000 a month then we can clearly see that ANYTHING over $20-40 in Indonesia is EXPENSIVE. The Cheapest high end place in Jakarta is be Fashion spa at 830,000 = $50 to 1. 2 m which is $74 and in my opinion it is overpriced. Paradise is 400 k which is $24 and has some of the same girls so you are obviously being overcharged. The solution is stop paying for ALL overpriced crap including FOOD! Prices have almost doubled in Indonesia in just one year! The equation works for food, hotels, and rent as well. $20 for food or $90 for hotels in countries where the income is $3,000 -4,000 a month.
Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.Paradise never heard of it where is it?
Master Monger
03-16-25, 04:36
Paradise never heard of it where is it?Just search Paradise spa it is close to Sunter mall. The owner is the same Chinese / Indonesian guy as be Fashion's.
Master Monger
03-16-25, 04:45
Met this cool guy named T on the street at abou 11:30 pm and we hung out around Mangga Besar til about 3 am just checking out the scene but travel wouldn't let me inside with my camera so I snagged a little cutie off the streets close by.
Looks: 6.
Attitude: 7.
DFK: 5.
BBFS: 6.
Damage: 100 to Mama, 200 to girl.
Pretty good. Not a bad value at $18.
Happy Mongering,
MM.
Thanks for all the feedback. I will stick to 200 k max for BBFS CIP and photos next time. Photos are just a nice to have, not a must-have. I really just want no-face nude photos together and another photo of her pussy and creampie. (I have my fetishes, please don't judge). I'll try with other girls next time.In Pattaya I had a girl to whom I promised 100 Baht extra for each good sexy pic (poor erased pics excluded!).This could amount to quite a lot but it motivated her no end.
Supposedly there is a red light area here.
-. Obviously with PSK in the search box these "areas" are street hookers.That shall be helpful? Third hand infos based on hearsay? Worse then a weather forecast. Kkkk.
Go there. Check it out --and then report your experience here.
Thank you!
PartyAnimal
03-16-25, 13:20
How recent is this? I was there less than a month ago and this was not the case at all. Firstly, the 200 K compulsory tip has been in place for awhile now but I have never had girls demand more. I have sometimes given 300 or even 500 if I got special services like BBFS or MSOG but in general 200 K is okay. I have also never been forced into a suite. They may ask but you can always ask for normal room. Threesome has always been optional. Just say no. For me the prices were simply 1. 4 or 1. 6 all in. So if things have changed it has to have been in the last couple of weeks or so.The 200 k tip was mandatory, but you used to write it down on the paper girl gave you or pay cash inside. Which essentially meant if the girl asked you then you could give the minimum 200 or more based on the service. With the new rule, 140+200 is without the paper. The girl after service will ask you for tip, if you write 200 on the paper you pay 140+200+200. So you have to say absolutely no tip to the girl and not write anything on the paper if you want to pay the mandatory 200 only. This from a perception perspective is hard because at the very least they become sad, or worse may pester you because the mandatory 200 k tip is not something you write in front of them. In a way it's more like 160 fixed. If you get what I mean.
Muzungufotsy
03-16-25, 13:59
Why so many mongers want to destroy this place and tipping for nothing? Locals don't tip or hardly like 50 k max.
Why people here talk about mandatory tip? There is no such thing.
Then some guys want to tip for naked pics.
Whats wrong with you people?
Nobody pays for naked pictures.
Its free all over internet.
If you want to take pics of the girl just ask her nicely and she will say yes most of the time.
No need to give the girls bad habits and tipping them for just being naked!
Punter6996
03-16-25, 14:29
I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!
Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.Which 4 star hotel is $16 a night?
Expat American
03-16-25, 16:10
The 200 k tip was mandatory, but you used to write it down on the paper girl gave you or pay cash inside. Which essentially meant if the girl asked you then you could give the minimum 200 or more based on the service. With the new rule, 140+200 is without the paper. The girl after service will ask you for tip, if you write 200 on the paper you pay 140+200+200. So you have to say absolutely no tip to the girl and not write anything on the paper if you want to pay the mandatory 200 only. This from a perception perspective is hard because at the very least they become sad, or worse may pester you because the mandatory 200 k tip is not something you write in front of them. In a way it's more like 160 fixed. If you get what I mean.This is news to me. Its more like a price hike than a tip in that case. A month or so ago, it was still 200 K on the slip they give you later (or more if you like). Whether its worth it or not is up to you I guess. Their business must be good to think this is a good idea. Anyway, I've mostly moved to other sources in Jakarta and hit Emporium just once or twice during my stays. So it doesn't move the needle for me that much.
Which 4 star hotel is $16 a night?I'the love to know that too holiday inn gets expensive fast but amazing breakfast.
was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. It's a club by itself. It's a boate and a terma with fishbowl. The ambience is toward high-end but with less girls. I think you might like it.
PartyAnimal
03-17-25, 07:19
This is news to me. Its more like a price hike than a tip in that case. A month or so ago, it was still 200 K on the slip they give you later (or more if you like). Whether its worth it or not is up to you I guess. Their business must be good to think this is a good idea. Anyway, I've mostly moved to other sources in Jakarta and hit Emporium just once or twice during my stays. So it doesn't move the needle for me that much.Can you share some locations similar to Emporium (except classic). Not really a fan for 1. 2 category girls there but the 1. 4 category is effectively 1. 9 now so very expensive. Thanks.
PartyAnimal
03-17-25, 07:22
Why so many mongers want to destroy this place and tipping for nothing? Locals don't tip or hardly like 50 k max.
Why people here talk about mandatory tip? There is no such thing.
Then some guys want to tip for naked pics.
Whats wrong with you people?
Nobody pays for naked pictures.
Its free all over internet.
If you want to take pics of the girl just ask her nicely and she will say yes most of the time.
No need to give the girls bad habits and tipping them for just being naked!Doesn't the tip change by which venue you are at?
Example emporium has mandatory 200 k, Girls at delta don't even smile if I tip them 100 k? What's the benchmark like? I typically give 5-10% of base price.
PartyAnimal
03-17-25, 07:28
For what it's worth, it's the same at Emporvium (and everywhere else in Jakarta?), though I guess the price possibly leads the girls at Emporvium to have "less mileage". On the other hand, there are much fewer girls at Emporivum also.Is it so? I have never asked but condoms have always been the norm at the few places I've been to. Infact some of the girls insisted CBJ as well, which I don't mind either. Never even got a hint at Emporium that BBFS was on offer. Never seen BBFS posts here except for classic on this forum, so I was assuming classic was an exception given low cost which incentivises girls for BBFS using tips.
Expat American
03-17-25, 07:46
Doesn't the tip change by which venue you are at?
Example emporium has mandatory 200 k, Girls at delta don't even smile if I tip them 100 k? What's the benchmark like? I typically give 5-10% of base price.You can tip whatever you want. Don't listen to the cheap charlie crowd here. If you think a few bucks will make the girl smile and make you feel better who is to say you shouldn't tip well? I will always tip generously for good service. But I won't be pressured into a tip if the girl shows a bad attitude. I have no problem saying no and I have no problem tipping 500 K. It just depends on what I feel the the girl deserves and my level of satisfaction. I'm not trying to get away with the cheapest $/ fuck ratio like some posters here. I'm trying to maximize the number of great fucks in the time I am there. This works for me and I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.
Is it so? I have never asked but condoms have always been the norm at the few places I've been to. Infact some of the girls insisted CBJ as well, which I don't mind either. Never even got a hint at Emporium that BBFS was on offer. Never seen BBFS posts here except for classic on this forum, so I was assuming classic was an exception given low cost which incentivises girls for BBFS using tips.Yeah, in my experience it is so. I think I've only been to Emporivum three times though, and one of the times I repeated with a girl from before, so my sampling size is rather limited.
I've not been to Travel myself, but from what I read here, price is about the same as Classic, but girls more or less insistent on condoms. If so I'm not so sure that price is the deciding factor, though I see the logic.
You can tip whatever you want. Don't listen to the cheap charlie crowd here. If you think a few bucks will make the girl smile and make you feel better who is to say you shouldn't tip well? I will always tip generously for good service. But I won't be pressured into a tip if the girl shows a bad attitude. I have no problem saying no and I have no problem tipping 500 K. It just depends on what I feel the the girl deserves and my level of satisfaction. I'm not trying to get away with the cheapest $/ fuck ratio like some posters here. I'm trying to maximize the number of great fucks in the time I am there. This works for me and I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.Theres nothing wrong with getting a good cost per fuck ratio. People play with what they got. Some have time. Some have looks. Others have money. No need to disparage others for how they game. Some guys can hit it 10 times a day. A good cost per fuck ratio is going to make sense. If you're older and can only do it once per day, sure, money is going to mean less, girls are probably less attracted to you as well, so you end up paying more generally. Everyone is trying to get laid, theres no one way to do it.
Alexandra2525
03-17-25, 18:41
I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.
Long report. Tl; dr Classic hotel was good. I got what I wanted. 365 k + 200 k tips for both nights, BBFS and CIP. No issues with the girl. Great deal.
Some background (or skip ahead if you want just the report):
To start, I'm late-30's East Asian guy and athletic looking and live in the West. I'm also on PrEP and tested regularly. I've been to many sex places throughout SE Asia, been mostly playing in Bangkok these days, I have a few regulars there. That said, I was optimistic and hopeful about Jakarta based on the reports here and was eager to try things out.
Based on what I've read, I was set on 2 things: 1) bareback sex with CIP, I have a thing for creampies. I also don't like condoms. I haven't used one in years. Of course, I was going to ask the girl for consent. If she refused, I was willing to tip. If she refused the tip, my 2nd option was to play out some of my kinks and fetishes: 2) teasing, kissing, oral, pussy eating, edging and orgasm denial. I also had some sex toys with me. Basically if the girl didn't want to have bareback raw sex then I would rather have a playful teasing session instead.
Friday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).
Arrived at 7 PM Friday night. Went up 2 sets of escalators to the bar. There were around 75-100 girls scattered all around the venue. I would say the girls were all under 30, skinny and slender looking but they all smoked. I would say they rated 6 to 8 out of 10 based on looks.
Around 60% of the tables taken. Customers were mostly mid-40's to mid-50's Asian men. They looked to be 70 local and 30 foreign based on the interactions (language fluency and hand gestures). I did not see a single white foreigner.
There was live music and karaoke until 930 PM and then the DJ started playing.
When I arrived, mamasan recommended a few girls to me. I didn't want to be rushed so I kind of batted them away. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with just a single girl. Her name was Eva, short at 5 ft2, she had pretty makeup, decent boobs, and looked like a university student. She was a smoker and had mediocre teeth. I didn't reject her and just let her stay next to me. She spoke no English. Had to rely on a translation app to communicate.
After 15 min later, I took pity on her and decided to fuck. Got a room, paid 365 K to mamasan and we went downstairs to a room.
We kissed immediately in the room, she started to open up and didn't really have any hesitations. She held a condom in her hand and I took it away and said "no condom". She said "why" and I just said "I give you tip. " She quickly agreed. Things were looking good.
We stripped. She had darker skin than I was expecting but not a dealbreaker. I showered first then she washed herself. Then got to bed, full GFE, lots of body contact, licking and teasing. I didn't make her give me BJ, that's not really my thing. I did go DATY and ate her pussy for a while then made her sit on me. She had a moderately 2-week old hairy but delicious pussy. I don't mind hairy pussies. She enjoyed the oral I gave her.
After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.
Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.
I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.
I wanted to fuck her again but I was jetlagged and tired. By 930 PM once the DJ started playing, I tapped out. I told the girl I would come back the next day.
Saturday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).
Returned the next night at 8 PM. There were more girls than the previous night. Probably over* 100 girls, same look as before. Around 80% of the tables taken. Customers were a bit more diverse but still around 70 local and 30 foreigners. They were younger 30 to 50 years old, some even in their 20's and lots of groups. Foreigners included mostly Chinese and Korean, but I saw a group of 4 white guys and 1 black guy with an Asian friend.
Mamasan wanted to recommend girls to me but I said right away I was looking for Eva again. First mamasan had no idea who that was. I walked around and didn't see her. I found another mamasan who knew her and waited a few minutes for her to come out from the back.
I had a drink with her before we went down to a room. 365 k again to mamasan. This time in the room things were a bit more relaxed. We did mostly the same as the stuff we did last night but she didn't get as wet as before.
I had a hard time penetrating her. I had lube but I wanted her to get naturally wet. It was an on and off 5-10 min of trying to get hard and trying to penetrate her bareback. Did some missionary then doggystyle then missionary before I came inside her again. Ate the creampie. I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.
The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.
I didn't have the energy to fuck again, so I left shortly after at 10 PM.
I only spent 2 nights in Jakarta but will return in a few months. I really liked the place and price. The only thing I didn't like was all the smoking but that's unavoidable in Jakarta. I also wish there was a system or separate area for people who want to return later and not have to hang out at the bar (I don't drink or party). Ideally, I'd like a place where I could go fuck in the afternoon then return later in the evening to fuck again without all the drinking, smoking, mamasan hassle.You wonder why the first girl didn't give you a post shot cuddle / GFE? Because she saw you eating your own cum out of her pussy ffs.
Doesn't the tip change by which venue you are at?
Example emporium has mandatory 200 k, Girls at delta don't even smile if I tip them 100 k? What's the benchmark like? I typically give 5-10% of base price.I think 100,000 is appropriate in Classic and Travel. 200,000 in Emporium. The men who recklessly tip don't understand that they're ruining the place for themselves. If women accept tipping insane amounts as normal, some men will stop coming because they won't be treated well, as they can't afford the amounts, and customers will be lost. If customers aren't available, fewer women will come, which is also bad for those who recklessly tip.
Expat American
03-18-25, 07:21
Theres nothing wrong with getting a good cost per fuck ratio. People play with what they got. Some have time. Some have looks. Others have money. No need to disparage others for how they game. Some guys can hit it 10 times a day. A good cost per fuck ratio is going to make sense. If you're older and can only do it once per day, sure, money is going to mean less, girls are probably less attracted to you as well, so you end up paying more generally. Everyone is trying to get laid, theres no one way to do it.You're correct. Nothing wrong in trying to get laid for the least possible. But what is wrong is those people telling others what they should or should not do with their own money and time. We don't need a tipping police. No single person's tips are going to change the market. Especially Jakarta which is primarily a local demand market. I'm all for people doing whatever they want with their time, money and dick. I will challenge the last statement though that older mongers pay more. That's really not true in any mongering market. If you are talking about dating apps, that's different. But when buying pussy it doesn't really change the dynamics much.
Mostly, this is a "pro-Classic" report. Just arrived and I'm enjoying what Classic has to offer. Coming from 10 days in the Philippines I was anxious to see something new and different. I think I found that here. My plane landed late, 11:30 PM. Easy to get through customs but very difficult to find a working ATM machine. I was approached by a helpful young man who told me the machine downstairs did not work and I needed to go upstairs. He guided me upstairs to the departure area where there were 3 ATM machines. The card did not work at the first two, so I was getting a bit anxious. The third was the charm. Collected a set of very old red bills and the young man offered to get me a taxi. I said, How much? He called up an app and showed me a set of figures starting at 550,000 are. (about 35 USD). I said that this seemed high. He said that the drive was an hour. I wasn't sure. He took my rolling suitcase and helped me downstairs. I asked if he was the taxi driver. Honestly, he said, No. He was a salesman. Downstairs, he began to run towards a series of private cars with my suitcase. I had to yell after him to come back. He did. I took my bag and left him, heading further down the rank of cabs to a lady who looked more official. 250 K to drive me to Classic Hotel. Still seemed high, (15 USD) but I agreed. At least it felt normal.
Next surprise -- they drive on the left side of the road in Indonesia. OK. Live and learn. About 45 minutes later the driver -- who spoke no English -- dropped me at the hotel. Upon check in, there was a 200 K cash deposit for some reason he could not explain. Then it was up to my room. I would not disparage the rooms. Yes, they are dated and could use new wall paper or a paint job, but everything else was first rate. All the amenities. Clean. Trouble with the WIFI for the start. Someone came to the room and did nothing special to make it better. Then, a moment later the WIFI connected and I was on line. No explanation. That's the way of technology in my experience. You play with the devil and sometimes you're going to get bad internet. With no explanation.
In my tattered, ketchup stained shorts and rumpled shirt, I was intent on checking out the girls. After all, that is why I booked into the Classic. Girls on site. It was after 1 AM but there were about 80 girls bouncing around. Literally bouncing in small groups, with friends at their table. I was the only white guy in there. And there may have been 10 dudes in total, apart from me, all drunk. An extremely aggressive Mamasan grabbed my arm and dragged me to a table with 10 girls. I tried to tell her that I was just going to spend some time looking. She would have none of it. She got the girls all up and in my face. They were all cute but not exactly what I was looking for. More to the point, I wanted to walk around and check out the talent. Not easy to disengage me from the Mamasan who insisted I take one of her girls. But I got away and was then free to walk around. FYI. There are quite a number of Mamasan's, each willing to help. I ignored most of them until I found a friendly looking woman named Rosa. I told her I wanted "small and young". She brought me a girl who was taller than me and maybe 25 years old. I repeated "small". She laughed. OK. The next girl she brought me was perfect. Looked very very young. Said she was 22, which, later in the light of the room, I believed. Now here's the thing I did not get. 365 K to fuck her on the premises -- rooms downstairs. I said I wanted to take her up to my room, in this very same hotel. She said that this would cost me 1. 1 million more. Almost 70 USD. Going from 22 to 70 was a bit of a shock. I asked for an explanation but she did not have the English to explain. It's just one of those policy things, I guess. I paid her 365 K and the girl went to grab her bag. Turns out that the rooms downstairs are quite nice. The girl was named Amoi and could not have been sweeter. A caring wash down of Mr. Happy and the general region. She washed herself. She used listerine on my little friend before taking him BB into her mouth. Went on for ages. Would not agree to BBFS. I didn't argue as she seemed adamant. And good for her for protecting herself (trying to put a positive spin on this.) She got on top for Cowgirl and transitioned to what I call Butterfly Cowgirl, where she moves back and sits at an angle and I lean up at an angle and we both move our hips inward. In that position, with her perfect face and skin, it looked like I was fucking one of those young AI generated beauties you come across. Had I a camera handy I would have loved to grab a photo (I will next time, believe me.) Great sex. Tried to get her to do ass play, but did not want to. Later agreed when using the condom on her tiny fingers. A large mirror beside the bed was also great. Different positions and she was very loving and cooperative. I moved around, removed the condom and fucked her mouth as she leaned her head back over the end of the bed. She fingered me and I should have been able to cum. But wasn't able to. Too much travel today and I'm an old guy. But I was OK with this. Here's the best part. We stopped and I lay down and spooned with her for about half an hour, each of us rubbing the other softly. It was so gentle and relaxing. It went on for ages and I thought I was in heaven. A knock at the door and it was time to wash up. It was over an hour and she did a wonderful job so I tipped her 100 K. A smile to hold on to for my later dreams. We walked hand in hand back upstairs and parted. I was directed to the cashier. While on line I noticed that the place was closing. It was 2:30 AM, so that made sense. I was charged 5000. About 30 cents. Paid and left. I suppose normally I would have had beer on my bill. My first St. Paddy's Day with no beer all day (due to the travel and stomach issues). Weird to have sex without being drunk. But that's just me.
To answer a question. No indication that service was cut back due to Ramadan. Dozens of girls here to party. And it was a Monday night. I give Classic Hotel full marks for the friendly staff, beautiful girls and a comfortable stay. Through the booking app I got this place for 28 bucks a night.
Tonight I will try other venues around town. If they are half as good as my time at the Classico Bordello I will be in hog heaven.
Question: It's been a while since anyone has reported on the sketchy area out by the railroad tracks. A while ago this was a hot topic with a lot of advice as to how to find the place and what to expect. If anyone has any updated experience on mongering out in those "local" areas near the train tracks, please let me know. I am looking for that kind of adventure.
Stay safe, mates.
EQ.
Theres nothing wrong with getting a good cost per fuck ratio. People play with what they got. Some have time. Some have looks. Others have money. No need to disparage others for how they game. Some guys can hit it 10 times a day. A good cost per fuck ratio is going to make sense. If you're older and can only do it once per day, sure, money is going to mean less, girls are probably less attracted to you as well, so you end up paying more generally. Everyone is trying to get laid, theres no one way to do it.Isn't that exactly what he said? You do you?
Plant Smoke
03-18-25, 13:07
I'm 21 pages into this and feel like I have a good image of 1001, malio, travel, classic, emporium. But is that it? Is that the only game in town? At 100 $ us dollars.
No one on motorbike down jalan tubagus angke onto daan mogot and checking things out reporting back. No one venturing into tanjung Priok or Cilincing. What about the streetwalker zone.
In front of the Cipinang prison?
There is one of three things goin on here:
1. members know, but are keeping their own little secrets.
2. these places, that are off the beaten path, are dangerous in the form of muggings / robberies?
3. there just isn't anything goin on elsewhere?
I don't really know the answer. The lack of breadth or lack of information has me thinking if I read another 20 pages will it be more of the same?
Anyone on here wants volunteer which / where the railroad tracks are that are mentioned? You mean the tracks near jatinegara?
Isn't that exactly what he said? You do you?The disdain for those who try to pay less was pretty obvious in my opinion.
You're correct. Nothing wrong in trying to get laid for the least possible. But what is wrong is those people telling others what they should or should not do with their own money and time. We don't need a tipping police. No single person's tips are going to change the market. Especially Jakarta which is primarily a local demand market. I'm all for people doing whatever they want with their time, money and dick. I will challenge the last statement though that older mongers pay more. That's really not true in any mongering market. If you are talking about dating apps, that's different. But when buying pussy it doesn't really change the dynamics much.I agree. People pay more, people pay less, not really anyone else's business. I appreciate the folks here who do report on what they pay. This you paid too much or you paid too little criticism just discourages people from doing so. They give us information we can use to make our own decisions.
I agree. People pay more, people pay less, not really anyone else's business. I appreciate the folks here who do report on what they pay. This you paid too much or you paid too little criticism just discourages people from doing so. They give us information we can use to make our own decisions.Like you, I welcome reports that include information about the tip, and also the girls reaction to it (happy, neutral, not happy). I don't think the problem is the criticism, but that some people here lack the basic manners to critique someone politely. For these people it's too easy to call people idiots, morons, etc. while criticising someone else for paying too much or too little and hiding behind a keyboard.
I think 100,000 is appropriate in Classic and Travel. 200,000 in Emporium. The men who recklessly tip don't understand that they're ruining the place for themselves. If women accept tipping insane amounts as normal, some men will stop coming because they won't be treated well, as they can't afford the amounts, and customers will be lost. If customers aren't available, fewer women will come, which is also bad for those who recklessly tip.I agree, with your numbers also as long as it's a tip for doing something more than just providing the minimal service. That's why it's good if people include the tip amount so those who care can educate themselves on what a normal tip is in a new place. Those who want to ignore it, for whatever reason, will do that of course, though I agree with you it is not beneficial and I try to avoid doing that myself.
MohdirFan82
03-18-25, 19:10
Same way Phillipines market got destroyed by hungry, thristy disabled westrens sending money for just telling them good morning.
I used to fuck a girl for 1500 peso and she would do anything, now she don't even talk unless I offer her 10,000 Peso.
Why so many mongers want to destroy this place and tipping for nothing? Locals don't tip or hardly like 50 k max.
Why people here talk about mandatory tip? There is no such thing.
Then some guys want to tip for naked pics.
Whats wrong with you people?
Nobody pays for naked pictures.
Its free all over internet.
If you want to take pics of the girl just ask her nicely and she will say yes most of the time.
No need to give the girls bad habits and tipping them for just being naked!
NotConcerned
03-18-25, 22:26
You wonder why the first girl didn't give you a post shot cuddle / GFE? Because she saw you eating your own cum out of her pussy ffs.Maybe, but guys cum inside a girl's mouth and are fine with post-sex cuddling, so not sure if that was really a factor. In any case, my point was it felt very rushed. After cumming, the girl wrapped things up quickly and was ready to dash. She cleaned and got dressed in a minute. I guess quick turnaround means more business / customers. But I asked her the next day and she said she only had 3 customers that night. Of course, no way for me to verify her statement.
At 6:00 I got a Grab taxi to check out Starmoon Bar in the Komplex. Thought I read they had a happy hour. Arrived and was the only one in the bar. And no happy hour to speak of. Only me and about 50 girls sitting on the couches. Saw they had Guinness, so I bought a can. Room temp. Tasted like shit. Talked to the waiter guy simply asking how young the girls are in this bar. He misunderstood, called to the Mamasan, and soon a cute, perky 19 year old named Lia was sitting next to me. She's the youngest, he seemed to say. That's not what I was trying to say, but whatever. I had no intention of doing the deed. Just wanted company. So I bought her a beer. She spoke pretty good English, "I learned in school. " She was joking with the waiter. I asked for a translation. She said, "he is a Christian so he is able to drink. I am Muslim, so I am not allowed to drink during Ramadan. " I pointed to the beer she was guzzling. She said, "Well, since I am going to have sex, I might as well have a beer. " I asked, "Girls can't have sex during Ramadan?" She said, No. I said, Well, you don't have to worry because we won't be having sex. She said, Yes we will be having sex. I said, No we won't. She said, Yes we will. I tried to explain that it was too early, I was not staying long, etc. She didn't understand and called over the Mamasan who could not translate anything to English. An odd moment because I insisted that we would not be having sex because I needed to go soon. Something was said by the Mamasan, and then Lia said, "If we don't have sex, I will go back there," meaning back to where the girls are. I said, OK. I paid for my beers and left. Me scratching my head. Lia was very very cute. But I did not want to finish my night at 6:00 PM. Across the street to Sari Ayu. Much cooler vibe here. More comfortable. Soccer on TV. And more than 100 girls all packed into one section of the room, all bunched together, on phones, putting on makeup, laughing. The Mamasan asked me to pick one. I told her "Maybe later. " She didn't like that answer. A bouncer dude who spoke English welcomed me. After getting a beer, I ask him about their policy. Can I buy a girl a drink without having sex with her? He said, No. If you buy them a drink you must pay 400 K to have sex. OK. I got to talking with another guy who did not believe that this was true. He called over the bouncer and then the Mamasan to confirm. Yes, if you buy a girl a drink, you must then pay to have sex with her. He spoke Indonesian well, so probed this a bit. There is a loophole. You can talk for 10 minutes and then not have sex, just by saying you did not like the girl. Wow. Choose your girls wisely, my friends. I will say, however, that the staff -- even later the Mamasan -- were very, very friendly and I could see hanging out here on a more regular basis. And, of course, the girls were all beautiful and young.
Took an ill-fated motor bike taxi, trying to head over to Raja Mas Club. The guy said he knew where it was. Turns out he didn't. Stopped a couple of times trying to tell me that we had arrived. I told him he was wrong. He knew he was wrong, just could not admit he was clueless. Asked men on the street and no one knew this club. Eventually, I took pity on the guy and paid him the negotiated 50 K and got off. Around the corner was the Fave Hotel and I found a proper taxi. He kind of knew where it was, but had GPS so he did find it. 20 K for that ride. Once inside Raja Mas I was surprised to see how small it was. About 12 girls sitting in a very dark room. Might have been cozy, but they all looked up at me -- old white guy in shorts and a t-shirt -- and said, "No thanks. " That was fine. I was really on this side of town in order to experience the train tracks open air bordello. So I left and started walking up to find the train tracks. More to follow.
After spending years trying to understand how Jakarta works, and in particular, the mysterious train tracks, I finally found it. By piecing together info on the forum and by using google maps, I located it and saw it was walking distance from Raja Mas Club. Google maps identified a nearby Dunkin Donuts -- huge, modern store in the middle of a run down set of buidings -- which was a landmark for me. I walked up that street, the street with Raja Mas Club, heading towards Gedong Panjang station. You see small roads to the left, but keep walking. Once under the train trestle -- a loud train rushed by to confirm what was above me -- I turned left, walked parallel to the train tracks, cut in through a gate that brought me close to the raised rail bed and then saw the ladder. Actually, what I did was follow a group of Indonesian guys who seemed to know where they were going. A precarious ladder up and into a hole in the wall. Suddenly you are up on top of the train tracks. Literally up on two sets of active -- bold face -- train tracks. A loud and dangerous train rushes by about every 15 minutes. Two sets of tracks -- east and west -- and along side, on the shoulders, are the small groups of people, under tarps that have been attached to the walls behind. You walk down the tracks and look for the groups of girls sitting together, in the dark, and hope you are not too drunk to hear when the train approaches.
One thing I will remark on. Some have said that "the place does not open until 10:00. " This always sounded odd to me. It's not a "place" like, a club with regular hours. It's always open. I'm sure more girls show up as it gets later, but I got there at 8:30 or so and there were a number of established groups of girls already sitting, waiting for action. I walked the distance until two old men told me not to go further because there were no more girls up ahead. I climbed down through two different holes just to see what life was like at ground level, along the tracks. Small shops and a couple mom and pop restaurants were there, getting ready for business. I passed a group of young teenage girls, giggling upon seeing me. They practiced their English on me and did a lot of smiling. Very cute but young, and certainly not "working girls. " More like, neighborhood girls. I climbed back up the walk back along the tracks, wondering if I was going to pick up a girl. The few I had seen via the flashlights of the men who stood out in front to show me looked bored and uninterested. I am sure I could have studied the different lots more and found a real beauty, but it was starting to drizzle and I knew I needed to make a move. As I walked along -- continually looking over my shoulder in case a train was coming -- a woman popped out in front of me. She shined her flashlight on three girls, sitting on chairs under a tarp. One was smiling broadly and giggling with laughter. Eager to entertain. I could not resist. How much? 200 K. Ok. The girl, named Reina, looked about 18 and lead me through yet another opening in the wall, down a ladder to a small area of rooms. More like closets, the dimensions of a standard mattress. Shoes outside, closed the door, dimmed the lights, undressed. She shrieked in delight upon seeing my penis. Not sure why, except she seemed a little bit silly. Could have been one of the first white cocks she'd seen -- wishful thinking here. She sucked eagerly. I knew there would be no discussion of condoms. DFK with genuine enthusiasm. When I touched her pussy she was very wet. So hot. She would not allow me to finger her, which is always weird to me, since in a few seconds something else was going to go in there. She lay down and I put it in. So tight. I spit on my cock to help it along and she started to moan loudly. While fucking her, I reached back and got my camera. Turned it on but the image was all dark. She understood. In Indonesion she pointed at the light. It turned out she was helping me locate the light switch. Flipped on the light, camera was all good to go and Reina performed like a champ. No hesitation. Great video. I tried to get her to finger my ass, but she was reluctant. I offered a tip. She compromised and tickled it a little, which is just what I needed to cum. I love to have a girl suck me after pulling out of her wet pussy, so I moved to her mouth and she accepted me for a nice mouth fuck. I pulled out to cum on her tits, but she balked at that. Napkins were placed on her chest with the directive to cum there. OK. A wild and crazy sex cat who draws the line at cumming on her tits. Whatever. We finished and I paid her the 200 K, then paid her a 100 K tip and she was extremely happy to receive it. Once again, giddy with laughter. We dressed and crawled up and out of the hole. She left with a kiss. I was feeling the afterglow and did not want to leave. A woman along the tracks called to me to ask if I wanted coffee. That sounded good, since it was starting to drizzle again. I sat and drank some pretty good instant coffee while the two woman tried to speak to me in Indonesian. Nice people who I did not understand. Time to go. I got turned around and had to back track to find the place where I had entered, so I was approached by several men who were offering me their girls. Shining the flashlight in their faces. They all looked OK. Not as cute as the girl I was with, nor as cute as the girls from Classic, but probably doable. If they had the right attitude. It would be hit or miss, I suppose. I was able to locate the same hole in the wall and went through, then down the precarious ladder and out. Upon leaving it was approaching 10:00, so I will confirm that good sex is possible even as early as 8:30, and on a Tuesday night. Also will state that I always felt safe. No worries anywhere I went in Jakarta, and the train tracks were no different.
The locations of the Dunkin Donuts was key since I did not have a SIM card and needed to find a taxi. Note: I was advised that it's good to get an Indonesian SIM card since, as I discovered, you will find yourself in the middle of no where and there might not be taxis around. There certainly were no rides around the Train Track area -- except maybe those blue tuktuk things. Dunkin Donuts has free internet, so I got on line and ordered a Grab taxi as the donut shop was about to close. Three minutes later I was cruising back to Classic hotel.
I hope this summary helps those who, like me, have wanted to understand this mysterious spot on the Train Tracks. For years I have wondered about what it's all about and, after experiencing it, I can say that it is pretty wild. I could become a regular, if I lived locally. I would like to return on a Saturday night to see how many girls are there. I recommend bringing your own small flash light to shine on their faces. And stick around to have coffee with one of the ladies who are trying to make money in a different way. I'll try to put a photo below showing the ladder that goes up to the hole in the wall. If you knew the area better, you could probably locate another spot to enter, perhaps on the other side of the railroad tracks. There is more than one way to get up there. But however you go, you still must climb to get up on top of the train tracks. And don't forget to look out for trains!
Plant Smoke
03-19-25, 09:26
Hi plantsmoke here. I'm arriving Jakarta after ramadan. Anyone kind enough to give me a short tutorial on getting out of Jakarta airport? I have 100 pounds of luggage. Is the grab app good for automobiles or only motobikes. ID rather not learn thru getting ripped off. Thanks.
After spending years trying to understand how Jakarta works, and in particular, the mysterious train tracks, I finally found it. By piecing together info on the forum and by using google maps, I located it and saw it was walking distance from Raja Mas Club. Google maps identified a nearby Dunkin Donuts -- huge, modern store in the middle of a run down set of buidings -- which was a landmark for me. I walked up that street, the street with Raja Mas Club, heading towards Gedong Panjang station.
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She would not allow me to finger her, which is always weird to me, since in a few seconds something else was going to go in there. LOL, what an excellent report.
About the fingering. Two good reasons why girls might not like that:
1) Lots of guys don't take care of their nails, and are not particularly careful about fingering, so many girls have probably experienced guys hurting them inside due small cuts caused by the nails.
2) Presumably you don't go around touching all sorts of things with your dick, but your hands and fingers will be very dirty unless you just washed them.
Edward Q:
Chapeaux: one of the really informative reports about a not so well known area. Only a few of the typical readers from here will dare to go there.
Just a little addon: there are entrances to the alley on the ground floor just left hand side when you see the portal of the road between the train line and the highway. It saves you climbing the ladder.
Had Chinese food for breakfast. I guess here they just call it food. Don't know why I was craving pork and noodles at 9 AM. Found a place where the locals eat at called Bakmi Aboen, tucked away in a little alley, 15 minute walk from Classic Hotel. It was OK and like everything else here, very cheap. I spent the afternoon walking around. Headed to the area with the big mall and US style fast food places, near the Four Seasons. Thought I might like a beer. Not easy to find a "bar" that looked like a bar. Finally found a local corner eatery where those fasting for Ramadan were arriving to get their fill. Fortunately, the shop owner sold beer. The large size Bali Hai went down smooth. All of this is to say that I learned it is not so easy to find a comfortable place to drink in Indonesia. Taxis and Grab cars, along with a little research in advance, is required. Fortunately they sell beer at the girlie bars.
Enough of that. Arrived at the Classic Hotel Bordello at around 7:30.100+ girls in attendance, most sitting on couches. Most bored. I got a few smiles from a few girls, which is a real turn on, but the ones who did not smile had the look of, "Don't even try it old man. " Once again accosted by the Mamasans. I hoped to find the woman I dealt with two days ago but there were just too many Mamasan's and it was too dark in there. Plus there was a live band playing. I will reserve my opinion on what I thought of their music. I noticed that the girls sitting at the tables seemed much more engaging than those on the couches. A Mamasan literally threw me at four girls who were sitting at a nearby table. All of them young and hot. I couldn't decide which to pick. All smiling and welcoming. The Mamasan suggested I take 2. Now that's an idea, I thought. 500 K for two girls, she quoted me. Since one girl is 365 K, I thought, Hey, that's a pretty good deal. I asked, "Will they kiss?" Meaning, each other. But she misunderstood it to mean will they kiss me, not each other. She said yes. I figured a girl-on-girl show would be a long shot anyway. I paid in advance and took the two girls who smiled the most downstairs. Or rather, they took me. In the room everyone showered. I finished first and watched the two of them shower. What beautiful bodies. I got out my camera and asked if I could take a photo. "No!" they both screamed. I offered a tip. They said No, then asked how much. I said 100 K each. They said, No. It's not enough. Then the blond girl said something like, All tipping must be 200 K each in this place. Not 100 K each. I said that was bullshit and that it was not true. They said that was their price. I told them to forget about it. I will emphasize that this was all playful banter back and forth. They were clearly testing the waters and were not trying to be mean about it. In a friendly way I just said, OK. We don't need to tip. Which sort of worked to my advantage in that they now knew that there might be extra money to be had here.
So we got down to business. The one girl that was dyed blonde was the aggressive one and after wiping junior down with listerine, went to town. Started low and worked her way up. The other girl spent her time sucking my nipples and kissing me. Also I finger fucked the tall one while she was licking my nips. At this point I stopped them and asked them to kiss each other. They laughed at that. Blondie said, "I kiss you. She kiss you. But friend don't kiss friend. " How about for a tip? No. They would not have it. After the BBBJ it was time to penetrate. I said no condom. They said that this means a tip. We agreed on a price and Blondie mounted me. Throughout the entire hour. More like 45 minutes. The two girls would not stop yapping with each other in their language. Commenting and reacting and clearly not including me in the conversation. This I suppose is the downside of having two girls who are friends. At one point I asked what they were talking about. They said they were talking about a mutual friend. Well, that's pretty typical for young girls, I thought. But during sex? Oh, well.
In any event, the BBFS was awesome. We swapped girls and I had the tall girl suck me. I directed her downward and she had no issue with rimming me as well. She then mounted me. At this point we had all begun to be playful. The mirror right beside the bed was so cool. While enjoying my copyrighted Butterfly Cowgirl move with the tall girl, I took Blondie's hand and had her rub her friend's pussy. Both girls reacted, startled, but Blondie did not pull her hand away. They just laughed about it, making comments in their language, but not stoppoing. I helped her rub her friends clit. Which got a positive reaction from both girls. While penetrating the tall girl and while Blondie rubbed her friend's pussy, I knew that my fuse was getting shorter. I pulled out and straddled the tall girl to cum on her tits while directing Blondie to finger my ass. She was now at a point where she wasn't going to argue any more. She even seemed to like doing it. Anyway, that's how it ended. With me blowing my meager load on those gorgeous tiny tits. The tall girl jumped up quick to shower, as did Blondie. I forced my way in there so the three of us could wash off together and I could rub their asses with soap just one more time. I don't know how these girls can so calmly shower naked together and not think about touching each other. Seems perfectly natural. Anyway, I tipped them each 200 for good service. No thank you or anything. This was the added cost of no condom, I suppose, plus the fingering that I enjoyed so much. Since the last girl I had at Classic would not do BBFS without protection, I was happy to have the pleasure of sticking it in both these girls sans rubber. Oh, and I was able to grab one parting shot --see below-- which I will enjoy for some time.
We walked back upstairs. I paid my bill of 47 K, which included a beer, and called it a night. On my way out I scanned the sea of beautiful girls before me, telling myself that Jakarta is amazing. Bless this awesome establishment and all the young girls who come here to earn their living. They made at least one old man very happy indeed.
Off to Bangkok tomorrow. Hope you all have fun with your dates. And stay safe.
EQ.
Captain Solo
03-19-25, 18:35
Avoid the cabbies and fake Grab touts at the exit. They will give you ever lies and charge you 2 x or 3 x Grab rate.
Book Grab and wait for it to arrive, may 5, 10 minutes max.
Gaijin Gigolo
03-20-25, 04:06
After spending years trying to understand how Jakarta works, and in particular, the mysterious train tracks, I finally found it. By piecing together info on the forum and by using google maps, I located it and saw it was walking distance from Raja Mas Club. Google maps identified a nearby Dunkin Donuts -- huge, modern store in the middle of a run down set of buidings -- which was a landmark for me. I walked up that street, the street with Raja Mas Club, heading towards Gedong Panjang station. You see small roads to the left, but keep walking. Once under the train trestle -- a loud train rushed by to confirm what was above me -- I turned left, walked parallel to the train tracks, cut in through a gate that brought me close to the raised rail bed and then saw the ladder. Actually, what I did was follow a group of Indonesian guys who seemed to know where they were going. A precarious ladder up and into a hole in the wall. Suddenly you are up on top of the train tracks. Literally up on two sets of active -- bold face -- train tracks. A loud and dangerous train rushes by about every 15 minutes. Two sets of tracks -- east and west -- and along side, on the shoulders, are the small groups of people, under tarps that have been attached to the walls behind. You walk down the tracks and look for the groups of girls sitting together, in the dark, and hope you are not too drunk to hear when the train approaches.
One thing I will remark on. Some have said that "the place does not open until 10:00. " This always sounded odd to me. It's not a "place" like, a club with regular hours. It's always open. I'm sure more girls show up as it gets later, but I got there at 8:30 or so and there were a number of established groups of girls already sitting, waiting for action. I walked the distance until two old men told me not to go further because there were no more girls up ahead. I climbed down through two different holes just to see what life was like at ground level, along the tracks. Small shops and a couple mom and pop restaurants were there, getting ready for business. I passed a group of young teenage girls, giggling upon seeing me. They practiced their English on me and did a lot of smiling. Very cute but young, and certainly not "working girls. " More like, neighborhood girls. I climbed back up the walk back along the tracks, wondering if I was going to pick up a girl. The few I had seen via the flashlights of the men who stood out in front to show me looked bored and uninterested. I am sure I could have studied the different lots more and found a real beauty, but it was starting to drizzle and I knew I needed to make a move. As I walked along -- continually looking over my shoulder in case a train was coming -- a woman popped out in front of me. She shined her flashlight on three girls, sitting on chairs under a tarp. One was smiling broadly and giggling with laughter. Eager to entertain. I could not resist. How much? 200 K. Ok. The girl, named Reina, looked about 18 and lead me through yet another opening in the wall, down a ladder to a small area of rooms. More like closets, the dimensions of a standard mattress. Shoes outside, closed the door, dimmed the lights, undressed. She shrieked in delight upon seeing my penis. Not sure why, except she seemed a little bit silly. Could have been one of the first white cocks she'd seen -- wishful thinking here. She sucked eagerly. I knew there would be no discussion of condoms. DFK with genuine enthusiasm. When I touched her pussy she was very wet. So hot. She would not allow me to finger her, which is always weird to me, since in a few seconds something else was going to go in there. She lay down and I put it in. So tight. I spit on my cock to help it along and she started to moan loudly. While fucking her, I reached back and got my camera. Turned it on but the image was all dark. She understood. In Indonesion she pointed at the light. It turned out she was helping me locate the light switch. Flipped on the light, camera was all good to go and Reina performed like a champ. No hesitation. Great video. I tried to get her to finger my ass, but she was reluctant. I offered a tip. She compromised and tickled it a little, which is just what I needed to cum. I love to have a girl suck me after pulling out of her wet pussy, so I moved to her mouth and she accepted me for a nice mouth fuck. I pulled out to cum on her tits, but she balked at that. Napkins were placed on her chest with the directive to cum there. OK. A wild and crazy sex cat who draws the line at cumming on her tits. Whatever. We finished and I paid her the 200 K, then paid her a 100 K tip and she was extremely happy to receive it. Once again, giddy with laughter. We dressed and crawled up and out of the hole. She left with a kiss. I was feeling the afterglow and did not want to leave. A woman along the tracks called to me to ask if I wanted coffee. That sounded good, since it was starting to drizzle again. I sat and drank some pretty good instant coffee while the two woman tried to speak to me in Indonesian. Nice people who I did not understand. Time to go. I got turned around and had to back track to find the place where I had entered, so I was approached by several men who were offering me their girls. Shining the flashlight in their faces. They all looked OK. Not as cute as the girl I was with, nor as cute as the girls from Classic, but probably doable. If they had the right attitude. It would be hit or miss, I suppose. I was able to locate the same hole in the wall and went through, then down the precarious ladder and out. Upon leaving it was approaching 10:00, so I will confirm that good sex is possible even as early as 8:30, and on a Tuesday night. Also will state that I always felt safe. No worries anywhere I went in Jakarta, and the train tracks were no different.
The locations of the Dunkin Donuts was key since I did not have a SIM card and needed to find a taxi. Note: I was advised that it's good to get an Indonesian SIM card since, as I discovered, you will find yourself in the middle of no where and there might not be taxis around. There certainly were no rides around the Train Track area -- except maybe those blue tuktuk things. Dunkin Donuts has free internet, so I got on line and ordered a Grab taxi as the donut shop was about to close. Three minutes later I was cruising back to Classic hotel.
I hope this summary helps those who, like me, have wanted to understand this mysterious spot on the Train Tracks. For years I have wondered about what it's all about and, after experiencing it, I can say that it is pretty wild. I could become a regular, if I lived locally. I would like to return on a Saturday night to see how many girls are there. I recommend bringing your own small flash light to shine on their faces. And stick around to have coffee with one of the ladies who are trying to make money in a different way. I'll try to put a photo below showing the ladder that goes up to the hole in the wall. If you knew the area better, you could probably locate another spot to enter, perhaps on the other side of the railroad tracks. There is more than one way to get up there. But however you go, you still must climb to get up on top of the train tracks. And don't forget to look out for trains!Would you be able to share e xactly where this place is on google maps?
Plant Smoke
03-20-25, 04:09
Hi this is plantsmoke; thankyou cap. Solo for clarifying the airport situation. However I have one more task that needs to be done at the airport. I need to get an unlimited indo. Sim card.
That allows hot spot data for my laptop at the airport. Which is the best sim card at the airport?
To use this forum another forum, in Jakarta I am going to have to use a VPN, no? What VPN company / site is rtecommended in Jakarta?
Plant Smoke
03-20-25, 05:05
This is Plantsmoke. I am arriving Jakarta at the end of ramadan. I am privy, after laborius work, to some information that would compensate for the.
"cleanse campaign" that Indonesia embarked on.
I briefly went to KASKUS indo. Language forum and for whatever reason could not navigate the website. One thing led to another and I started entering PSK, PROSTITUSI.
In a google search box. To my surprise what came back was indo. News media reports. These reports are very raw, need to be followed with google maps research, and then of course.
On-foot field research.
Why hasnt anyone else done this? Because it was laborius work, having to continually hit translate link. Laborius and time consuming.
I have decided to release these, in time, to this forum. Possibly under a new thread for the following reasons:
1. The power of this forum members' field research. If members here are willing to climb a treacherous ladder, within feet of a every-15 minute speeding train in north Jakarta.
Then they will do anything for pussy.
2. another forum members patronising these off-the-path areas will "push back" at the establishments' religious cleanse anti vice moverment.
3. I read often about classic horror stories. It is because those girls are being pounded on every day.
4. After Classic frustration, which on this forum I see frequently, and 100 $ emporium there is a need for alternative venues / areas.
5. For me personally, there is nothing more erotic than fucking in one of these make-shift 8-hour blue tents that seem edndemic in these reports I have.
6. patronising these areas, lokalisasis and streetwalker zones, will reduce the chatter in these areas, "holy shit there is a white man".
Note: these reports are raw, can include outdated info. Info that is out dated because of a police raid. However after a raid it seems the indo. Hookers always return to the area. Who iks game for this endeavor I / we are on?
Plant Smoke
03-20-25, 05:44
This is plantsmoke. I wanted to provide an example of a report (indonesian media) that I have acquired:
Even during the fasting month, prostitution activities on jalan Inspeksi Kali Sekretaris, grogol Petamburan, West Jakarta, are rampant.
Apart from these locations, PSKs were also seen hanging out on Jalan Daan Mogot, on the side of the road from grogol towards Kalideres.
,precisely next to the Padang restaurant, near the Top 1 discoteque.
MORE.
A number of "pockets" where commercial sex workers (csws) transit and transact in several corners of the city of Jakarta, are currently increasingly visited by sex-hungry.
Men. Ironically there haver been no significant actions to control them from Satpol PP (civil service police unit) officers or the Social service Sub-dept. Based on a brief.
Observation, the locations of "csws" . Pulogadung Industrial area (PT JIEP), The Gunung Antang Railway tracks on Jl. Mataram Raya, along the road in front of Cipinang Prison and.
Along the Cipinang Railway tracks. In the Pulogadung Industrial Area, tents and warem (dimly lit stalls) have been set up since the afternoon. "The sound of music like in a bar, can be heard clearly.
By motorcyclists and cars passing by because the warem is located on the side of the road to the Rawakepiting Chicken Slaughterhouse (TPA).
NOTE**These girls might try to blend in / conceal with the durian sellers / vendors.
In conclusion this new thread will feature locations and no story telling. You will be spared the novelist / storytelling that is painful as fuck on this site! Also I request no comments.
"Well he hasnt even done the research" . I AM TELLING YOU AHEAD OF TIME THESE ARFE RAW REPORTS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WEBSITE I AM CONSTANTLY HAVING TO LOG IN, AND IF I TAKE ON THIS ENDEAVOR AND AM CRAFTING A REPORT AND IT TIMES OUT (WHICH IS OUTRAGEOUS WEBSITE SOFTWARE) I WILL IMMEDIASTELY STOP THIS ENDEAVOR OUT OF FRUSTRATION.
Rocketeer666
03-20-25, 10:04
So I land on the 1st of April in Jakarta, I've texted my usual mamasan in Classic she told me is closed until the 3rd. What can I do for the first couple of days?
I understood it's a Muslim celebration so is there more Chinese oriented clubs opened on those days?
I would hate to loose 2 days of my sex holidays!
Thanks for the advice.
Muzungufotsy
03-20-25, 11:05
So I land on the 1st of April in Jakarta, I've texted my usual mamasan in Classic she told me is closed until the 3rd. What can I do for the first couple of days?
I understood it's a Muslim celebration so is there more Chinese oriented clubs opened on those days?
I would hate to loose 2 days of my sex holidays!
Thanks for the advice.You have been advised not to come at this time of the year so take your responsabilities dude!
Happy Gent
03-20-25, 13:47
Thank you for your reports.
Can I ask how old is old?
Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.
1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.
2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.
3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.
4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying..I agree with you. You can pick from way more girls in 1001 at same price range or even cheaper now. Better quality and plenty rooms. And you can choose imports if you want to change your taste.
The only edge Empo has is the pool time. Feel like watching orgy when many couples are in the pool at same time.
Hi this is plantsmoke; thankyou cap. Solo for clarifying the airport situation. However I have one more task that needs to be done at the airport. I need to get an unlimited indo. Sim card.
That allows hot spot data for my laptop at the airport. Which is the best sim card at the airport?
To use this forum another forum, in Jakarta I am going to have to use a VPN, no? What VPN company / site is rtecommended in Jakarta?Telkomsel si cards are sold at the airport right by the downstairs ATM that never has any money. You walk right by it after getting your luggage. They also have to register your IMEI number for it to work or something. You can however get this little box that you out the sim card in and then it puts out a wifi signal like a Hotspot.
Yes you will need to use a VPN to access ISG and also surprisingly Reddit. I recommend using Windscribe VPN. I used it the whole 2 months I was there and it worked great. It's a free app that gives you 2 gb of VPN usage (or 10 gb if you register your email) per month.
-Gabacho.
Would you be able to share e xactly where this place is on google maps?In google maps, write Gedong Panjang station Jakarta. It's right there.
So I land on the 1st of April in Jakarta, I've texted my usual mamasan in Classic she told me is closed until the 3rd. What can I do for the first couple of days?
I understood it's a Muslim celebration so is there more Chinese oriented clubs opened on those days?
I would hate to loose 2 days of my sex holidays!
Thanks for the advice.You can try to head to Kelapa Gading and to try your luck there. Look up Grand Sumo or Kings Cross. But as mentioned most places will be closed from 3/27-4/6.
Since a good amount of the workers are going to head home and see their family in this period, which includes the cashier / bouncer / barmen etc. Can't really run a business if there's no one to work it.
Some places may open up earlier by a couple of days, but you might just need to try your luck with dating apps.
PartyAnimal
03-21-25, 13:29
This is Plantsmoke. I am arriving Jakarta at the end of ramadan. I am privy, after laborius work, to some information that would compensate for the.
"cleanse campaign" that Indonesia embarked on.
I briefly went to KASKUS indo. Language forum and for whatever reason could not navigate the website. One thing led to another and I started entering PSK, PROSTITUSI.
In a google search box. To my surprise what came back was indo. News media reports. These reports are very raw, need to be followed with google maps research, and then of course.
On-foot field research.
Why hasnt anyone else done this? Because it was laborius work, having to continually hit translate link. Laborius and time consuming.
I have decided to release these, in time, to this forum. Possibly under a new thread for the following reasons:
1. The power of this forum members' field research. If members here are willing to climb a treacherous ladder, within feet of a every-15 minute speeding train in north Jakarta.
Then they will do anything for pussy.
2. another forum members patronising these off-the-path areas will "push back" at the establishments' religious cleanse anti vice moverment.
3. I read often about classic horror stories. It is because those girls are being pounded on every day.
4. After Classic frustration, which on this forum I see frequently, and 100 $ emporium there is a need for alternative venues / areas.
5. For me personally, there is nothing more erotic than fucking in one of these make-shift 8-hour blue tents that seem edndemic in these reports I have.
6. patronising these areas, lokalisasis and streetwalker zones, will reduce the chatter in these areas, "holy shit there is a white man".
Note: these reports are raw, can include outdated info. Info that is out dated because of a police raid. However after a raid it seems the indo. Hookers always return to the area. Who iks game for this endeavor I / we are on?Hi. Can you explain what you mean by horror stories at classic?
Plant Smoke
03-21-25, 17:42
Horror stories? Just read the forum. Seems every other girl is a starfish, puts two condoms on your joint.
Hi. Can you explain what you mean by horror stories at classic?He probably means the very few who absolutely insist on condoms and then give really bad service saying your dick is too big and not letting you fuck them right, squirming around and saying Saket. In my experience out of 50+ I only had one really bad one like this and one that did BBBJCIM because she refused bbfscip. I think 3 total made me use condoms. I know with civvies and lokasari the condom rate is 0% at classic it's not 0% but it's pretty close. If you get one that makes you wear a condom that is the outlier not the norm at classic.
Plant Smoke
03-22-25, 06:26
Plant smoke here. Allright well maybe I stand corrected. When you read these forums, there is a lot of reading "between the tea leaves" if you know what I mean? The only way ill know for sure is to sample it myself; in a couple of weeks. I have gotten into magic tricks. Some from the adams company. Hoperfully I will be able to hold off the mamasans with magic long enough to properly interview a girl. Picking them off the couch, sight mostly unseen, is a lottery. I will pay for a lady drink, but like others here, no shots.
As my indonesian adventure nears I have entertained the idea of returning to Batam, but it confuses me that in the batam thread there has not been a post in 6 months.
Plant Smoke
03-22-25, 07:13
This is plantsmoke. From memories of Pacific disco? Batam while in Indo it is a good idea to have a flashlight. Because some reports I have regarding dimly lit stalls, and hookers setting up 8-hour blue tents on the side-of-the-road in Jakarta.
I'm in Bangkok now. Should I get a flashlight here? Ideally I could buy a mini-mag light that would invert into a lamp? Do they have ace hardwares in Jakarta? Thanks.
Plant Smoke
03-22-25, 07:18
Ok thankyou; telkomsel sim card at the airport. I'm not going to get a black box for hotspot. I'm just going to use my smart phone as the hotspot. But the telkomsel sim has to be a 30 day unlimited plan thanks.
You can try to head to Kelapa Gading and to try your luck there. Look up Grand Sumo or Kings Cross. But as mentioned most places will be closed from 3/27-4/6.
Since a good amount of the workers are going to head home and see their family in this period, which includes the cashier / bouncer / barmen etc. Can't really run a business if there's no one to work it.
Some places may open up earlier by a couple of days, but you might just need to try your luck with dating apps.New Royal in Kota Indah is opening up 4/2 according to their telegram (which BTW is the best app I've found for just looking at talent in Jakarta at various places). It looks like other connected place are closed too: MTR, Mega, HR Vip but open 4/2. Other spots mention 4/3 on tele, it's probably not a total waste land but the weekend looks like it will be dead and Friday, Monday, Tuesday and probobly not back to normal until Saturday 4/5 or the following Monday. I'm in the same boat, had tried to plan ahead, but my time off got bumped forward 5 days. Luckily there are other places to go first like Bali or Singapore or Thailand for a few days, whatever.
Plant Smoke
03-22-25, 07:27
Plantsmoke. Amazing that this Indonesian cleanse campaign (the elimination of the lokalisasis e. G. Kalijodo) has mainly effected the local vendor / motobike rider out for a night. It would have been nice to see an uptick in rapes afterwards, as if to say, "see, see what you've done indo government"?
There was a lokalisasi north of the airport in Dadap that was destroyed. I wonder what would happen if you went there and got a motodriver to get you some girls?
Plant Smoke
03-22-25, 10:01
You know in a matter like this you have to be thick skinned. Especially if your website is having / experiencing glitches. Here I am diligently going back 35 pages here, with surprisingly little change in time.
(Imagine the poem writers on this thread if kalijodo, rawa malang, dadap was still alive today; time would virtually stand still when thread pages were turned.).
SO after 35 pagers were read, somehow I, the next day, got bogged down and started reading pages THAT I THOUGHT I had already read. Page 29 01-09-25 June Fly "What are some other bars near Block M in south Jakarta besides mr. Braid and mars"? An entry that I had never read!
It happened on other pages going back as well. I know what I have read! Do you know how frustrating this is? Trying to be thourough and meticulolus as you read this thread? This is really inexcusable glitching. I implore the administrators to let this post go through because it is from the heart.
Horror stories? Just read the forum. Seems every other girl is a starfish, puts two condoms on your joint.I take it when a girl asks for two condoms you can go back and ask the mamasan for a different girl without additional charge.
I take it when a girl asks for two condoms you can go back and ask the mamasan for a different girl without additional charge.I'm pretty sure you can't because they already write up the paper slip thing with that girl and go cash it out with the cashier before you even get to the room and then the room registers the girl's and and your number from your bracelet too.
Question, how do you know if a parlour offers extras?
If they are open 24/7 you can just assume you do and that there will be a line up?
I'm looking for places in the block M area. Are prices similar to North Jakarta?
And what should they be ± in 2025?
Thank you for the help.
What assumption? I made a statement of intent then asked a question...
I'm pretty sure you can't because they already write up the paper slip thing with that girl and go cash it out with the cashier before you even get to the room and then the room registers the girl's and and your number from your bracelet too.The secret to have fun in classic is to realise quickly if the girl is a dud. For me that was the case in almost 50% of new picks. Then just accept that your money is lost, go back straight to the main room and choose another girl. Once you know a couple of girls you like to repeat with as a backup plan, this procedure becomes actually quite smooth.
The secret to have fun in classic is to realise quickly if the girl is a dud. For me that was the case in almost 50% of new picks. Then just accept that your money is lost, go back straight to the main room and choose another girl. Once you know a couple of girls you like to repeat with as a backup plan, this procedure becomes actually quite smooth.I agree 100%.
This exact scenario happened to me at classic in November. I had picked a skinny pretty girl with more Chinese looking facial features, she also had crooked teeth (that didn't bother me). In the room she became a total ***** and demanded 500 k for BBFS and I told her no that the max I would giver her is 200 k. Then the whole rest of the session she was being stupid. Telling me I was too big and not letting me penetrate her right and saying sakit at any point I did penetrate her. I just ended the session and counted it as a loss.
I then went back out and explained to the mamasan what happened and I picked another girl from further back by the pool tables. I just went straight to her and she smiled at me and I picked her, I didn't wait for a mamasan to show me a line up.
Then as we were walking to the room the first girl was coming out and she told some thing to the new girl in bahasa. In the room I used Google translate to ask her what the first girl had said. And she replied that "she said you don't like to use condoms but I don't think that will he a problem" and she gave me bbfscip and great service. I believe I tipped her 150 k and she was very happy with that and I felt satisfied as well.
I posted a report about this when it actually happened should be sometime in November 2024.
So yea there can be some bad apples at classic but I feel they are not the majority. I later would pick girls who were friends of the girls that I would get BBFS from and that would work strategically to ensure that I get BBFS from the new one and less probability of a bad service.
There was one girl in particular named Shentiya who sat to the right of the cashiers on that couch right by the changing room. I fucked like 10 of her friends and they all were great. I would have her come to my table and say to her in bahasa "aku mau teman tanpa kondom" and she would introduce me to her friends, and they would always give me good service. The only thing I regret is there was one who got away named Nindy who I was supposed to fuck but I fucked her friend Lesta instead and then I told Nindy I would come back for her besok but when I came back the next day and subsequent days I never cound find her.
-Gabacho.
Gaijin Gigolo
03-23-25, 06:58
In google maps, write Gedong Panjang station Jakarta. It's right there.Thanks for sharing.
Plant Smoke
03-23-25, 11:19
50% of new classic picks are duds?. I don't know, is it just me, or are those classic horror stories?
50% of new classic picks are duds?. I don't know, is it just me, or are those classic horror stories?It's not 50% but it's best to weed out the bad ones. You can use strategies to avoid them such as making eye contact and seeing if they smile at you or not, or as I mentioned having one that gave good service introduce her friends from her group to you. Just try to pick girls that have a good vibe and this will decrease the chances of a bad experience.
Plant Smoke
03-24-25, 03:52
It's not 50% but it's best to weed out the bad ones. You can use strategies to avoid them such as making eye contact and seeing if they smile at you or not, or as I mentioned having one that gave good service introduce her friends from her group to you. Just try to pick girls that have a good vibe and this will decrease the chances of a bad experience.Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?
They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?
Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.
And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?
50% of new classic picks are duds?. I don't know, is it just me, or are those classic horror stories?What you're saying is strange. Yes, I've had bad experiences too. I think out of 10,5 are very good, 3 are so-so, and 2 are really bad. Along the way, there have to be some bad ones as well. If I were to compare it to the German clubs or Thailand, Classic would be better, if only because it doesn't hurt as much due to the money. But I always use condoms and don't demand anything extraordinary from the girls. What I would definitely do is complain to the mamasan. If you just accept it, you risk the girls learning to get away with it, a certain normality returning, and you getting the same woman next time.
Rocketeer666
03-24-25, 12:17
New Royal in Kota Indah is opening up 4/2 according to their telegram (which BTW is the best app I've found for just looking at talent in Jakarta at various places). It looks like other connected place are closed too: MTR, Mega, HR Vip but open 4/2. Other spots mention 4/3 on tele, it's probably not a total waste land but the weekend looks like it will be dead and Friday, Monday, Tuesday and probobly not back to normal until Saturday 4/5 or the following Monday. I'm in the same boat, had tried to plan ahead, but my time off got bumped forward 5 days. Luckily there are other places to go first like Bali or Singapore or Thailand for a few days, whatever.Ah cool I'll do some research on the telegram channels, if you have some hints let us know. P.S. If anyone is around beginning of April and want to bro up for drinks and talent scout let me know here or Dm. I'll be around fellas. Cheers!
Alexandra2525
03-24-25, 12:49
Hi all.
I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!
Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.
I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.
I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.
Thanks in advance.
SeaTraveler
03-24-25, 14:44
BATS & CJ'S.
I prefer CJ's, but have had good luck at both.
I was there quite a bit a year ago (Dec to March 2024).
I paid 1. 5 to 2 juta.
There have been no recent posts on either & I'm not sure why.
Good Luck.
Hi all.
Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.
I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT.
Thanks in advance.
Hi all.
I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!
Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.
I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.
I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.
Thanks in advance.If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.
CJ probably is your best shot where you can find some FL who have a normal job during daytime. But I know some spa girls will go there to make some extra money. So you need to figure out yourself.
I went there few months ago. It was very good. 2 juta for LT. Laid back and good music.
And if you meet a girl who was fucked 10 x a day, it is not bad at all. It means she is very popular, either she has a 10 look or she gives the top-tier service.
Banana Boi
03-24-25, 18:39
And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?You are allowed to talk to the girls after you pull them out of the fishbowl at Starmoon. In fact, the mamasan leaves you alone with the girl to do so. After that works the same way as Classic, Travel, etc. The girl will sit there and talk to you but be courteous to the girl and send her back in a couple of minutes if you don't plan on taking her.
Girls don't care about lady drinks like they do in Thailand. It's not a source of income for them. I never buy a lady drink in Jakarta unless it's for a girl I already know. You can tell in seconds if a Jakarta girl wants to go with you or not. It's not fake like Thailand where they all pretend to love you and want you to father their next child.
If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.
There are 2 Royal in KI. Royal VIP is high end and not busy, at least as of Summer 2024. Royal is a normal bar and busy.
Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?
They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?
Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.
And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?I don't buy them any drinks. I just talk to them and try to read their body language. I don't rattle off all my desires either. I just kind of go with the flow and try to feel the vibe. I usually will ask if they do pijit since I like massages too but I don't usually bring up condom talk until in the room.
This is for the newbies that are thinking about going to Jakarta. I'm going to give you the real impressions of the place from a guy that likes high quality living and high quality women. This is not from the perspective of a cheap charlie. When I go on a trip I expect to live like a king. I read the stories of some guys scraping up a few pennies to come here and live like a peasant, no thanks, that's not for me.
Airport.
First thing after getting off the plane, I bought the visa on arrival, I think it was equivalent to $30 USD. Passport check was easy, I went to the agent, she looked at my passport and said next time go through the machines and just scan and go. Ok cool will do.
All this talk about ATM's and low withdrawals. There are 3 ATM's before / after customs can't remember. The first machine is an HSBC and the other 2 are major Indonesian banks. The machines have a 3 mil IDR limit. Very easy to get all the cash you need from these machines. I did 4 transactions and took a total of $12 mil. No headache no hassle. Easy.
Customs, you have to scan one of the QR code signs hanging up everywhere, answer a few questions and then get your personal QR code to show the customs agent. Got a SIM card from the people waving signs at you after you exit. There are like 5 booths, I picked the one that had the most people buying. Talk, text, data was like $20 USD. I took Golden bird subsidiary of Blue Bird they have new, bigger, nice vehicles. The car was a new electric vehicle, I think it was like 380 k IDR or so.
1st Hotel. Movenpick.
This place was highly recommended on this forum as the nicest place to stay if you want to be close to the action. Check in was smooth, there is a lot to like about the place. The Good, everything is pretty much new! I ate at every restaurant multiple times (brought guests) great food. Fantastic gym, high end equipment. Decent pool. Very easy to bring as many female guests as you want. The reception is on the 2nd floor around the corner from the elevators. It's perfect. The only person who can see who you are bringing back is the bellhop. Nobody in your business or asking any questions.
The Bad, after about week I realized the location although close to action actually sucks and the rooms are just too small.
Classic:
This is only my opinion so for the gents who worship Classic, I don't want to hurt your feelings.
Honestly this place reminds me of an abandoned mall. The very dim lighting, random mongers walking around aimlessly, it's creepy as shit! Once you take a few escalators up to terminal 2 it doesn't really get any better. You check-in get your wrist band and you walk into this big room with sofa seating wrapping around the edges. You will be immediately approached by many mamasons. Like its so funny, you didn't even have a chance to look at any girls yet and mama is asking what girl do you like! You just have to not pay them any attention (I say, I need a drink, give me sometime to relax) and just go grab an open seat. When sitting there scoping out the room every time I went a lot of the girls had this awful dry terrible cough. I tried my best not to pick them even if they were cute.
It will be a constant battle with these mamasons, especially if it's early evening and things are a little slow. Usually it takes me a good 20 minutes or so to find a girl I like. I then flag a mama and if it's not a girl from her stable she will huff and puff but will eventually signal the girl you want down with a green laser.
I then hand the mama of the girl 400 k IDR she goes and fills out some paperwork and brings back change. I usually let mama keep the change and that makes her very happy. The lighting is purposefully very dark you really never know what you are picking until you are in that shitty roach infested room and you turn on all the lights. Then it will be revealed, what you thought you were getting is not exactly what you got! I think another member mentioned this in his reports. There is always something that reveals itself in the light. Bad teeth, too many layers of makeup, bad skin, face not as cute, etc.
Once in the room while you are getting acquainted with your lady you will be met with all sorts of interesting things, from bad breath, fishy vagina odor, dirty feet, a little bit of body odor. Yes even though they just took a shower in front of you. Very strange. I guess this is to be expected at this price point. It's basically free sex. Every Tom, Dick and Harry coming here from across the world BB'ing and dumping loads in these girls. I'm still scratching my head about the pricing. Every encounter is pretty much free. It's just a matter of can you find anything worth taking back to the room.
I tipped all girls that provided great service 500 k, girls who really worked hard but couldn't bring me to climax (because I just wasn't attracted to them when the lights came on) 300 k. And I even tipped the smelly girls $200 k, even though I cut those sessions short.
I can already hear the screams. Why are you destroying the market. Haha. I tip all the ladies because they have terrible lives and a terrible job and if some cash can bring a little joy into their lives than so be it. Please be nice to them. From my experience, they all were very sweet and really tried hard to give a good experience. More to come on just how popular I became here!
That brings me to my next point. I always felt dirty leaving the place. Like I needed one of those radiation containment showers. Popular girls are getting picked 5 to 10 times a day. A popular girl, even if she has only been there a month has an unbelievable amount of mileage on her already. To me it's a bit disgusting. So after my 4th or 5th visit (I was done with the place). On to greener pastures.
Next report will be a detailed review of all the girls I can remember, especially the ones who spent their days off with me! Plus adventures at the higher end venues as well as meeting a few girls from seeking! I met a lot of incredible girls from all over the place, they really made the trip great!
Hi all.
I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!
Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.
I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.
I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.
Thanks in advance.
then you are gonna have to go the FL/SA route
or go to malio and pick up a dancer, which is waaaayyy overpriced
i believe its close to 4M for a short time
but will likely not have many if any customers
Alexandra2525
03-25-25, 09:49
BATS & CJ'S.
I prefer CJ's, but have had good luck at both.
I was there quite a bit a year ago (Dec to March 2024).
I paid 1. 5 to 2 juta.
There have been no recent posts on either & I'm not sure why.
Good Luck.Thank you. Yes, have read about CJs and BATs but only people mentioning the name but not actual experience ie quality and quantity of ladies and cost. Your feedback was very helpful on price, can you give any further details on the quality and quantity? Are they more likely to speak some English as compared to Classic etc?
Thank you.
If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.
CJ probably is your best shot where you can find some FL who have a normal job during daytime. But I know some spa girls will go there to make some extra money. So you need to figure out yourself.
I went there few months ago. It was very good. 2 juta for LT. Laid back and good music.
And if you meet a girl who was fucked 10 x a day, it is not bad at all. It means she is very popular, either she has a 10 look or she gives the top-tier service.Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.
I hear you about the girl who fucks 10 times a day, I might agree if BB wasn't so common out there. But because I have a thing for DFK and DATY I'd rather do that on a girl who has one or two clients a day a few times a week vs ten clients six times a week.
Plant Smoke
03-25-25, 12:46
Damn it, it's taken years to get outsiders to only venture to Classic, Travel and Emporium and not even consider going elsewhere. Heck, we even had to wait years till Lokasari and surrounds had all the fun places die off leaving just the 'street scene'. And just about everyone has forgotten about Stadium. Ok well not everyone, but you get the point.
Keep this up and they might venture away from Mangga Besar and Pasa Baru areas.Pasar baru? Google mapped it. Its east of monas (the statue) Is there anything special about pasar baru district? I seem to be missing something here. Sorry goin back a bit here in this thread.
I'm 21 pages into this and feel like I have a good image of 1001, malio, travel, classic, emporium. But is that it? Is that the only game in town? At 100 $ us dollars.
No one on motorbike down jalan tubagus angke onto daan mogot and checking things out reporting back. No one venturing into tanjung Priok or Cilincing. What about the streetwalker zone.
In front of the Cipinang prison?
There is one of three things goin on here:
1. members know, but are keeping their own little secrets.
2. these places, that are off the beaten path, are dangerous in the form of muggings / robberies?
3. there just isn't anything goin on elsewhere?
I don't really know the answer. The lack of breadth or lack of information has me thinking if I read another 20 pages will it be more of the same?
Anyone on here wants volunteer which / where the railroad tracks are that are mentioned? You mean the tracks near jatinegara?I agree. Unfortunately most people seem to be frequenting the same 3-4 locations.
I browsed a bit through the last 20 posts. Am I right under the assumption that 300-400 k plus tip is the norm for a short time without condom in these venues?
Whats the overnight prices including 2-3 pops?
I can already hear the screams. Why are you destroying the market. Haha. I tip all the ladies because they have terrible lives and a terrible job and if some cash can bring a little joy into their lives than so be it. Please be nice to them. From my experience, they all were very sweet and really tried hard to give a good experience. More to come on just how popular I became here!
Don't take this as personal criticism. Tipping is a bit of a hot topic. At the end of the day I'm all for a person doing what they want with hard earned money. Just some thoughts.
I always find these excuses for tipping rather strange. If you really felt bad for them and their shitty situation, why wouldn't you just tip them without having sex with them. LOL. Then you wouldn't be "destroying the market". I mean if you really cared about these people and their shitty situation, you might donate to a charity that helps women in poverty. Or perhaps an indonesian poor prostitutes charity? Right? I think most people don't really care about people's shitty situation unless it makes them feel bad. So really, you're tipping to prevent yourself from feeling bad.
I'm the same way, but I don't try to paint it as trying to help people. In the USA I tip because I feel guilty. That's the truth. And I feel socially compelled to do it. If I were more of an asshole with a spine I would not tip. Its stupid. But I would also gladly accept higher prices in all restaurants and places where people normally expect tips, so employers can pay their damn employees.
SeaTraveler
03-25-25, 18:00
Thank you. Yes, have read about CJs and BATs but only people mentioning the name but not actual experience ie quality and quantity of ladies and cost. Your feedback was very helpful on price, can you give any further details on the quality and quantity? Are they more likely to speak some English as compared to Classic etc?
CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.
By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.
Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.
BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.
There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.
Good Luck.
Gaijin Gigolo
03-25-25, 18:38
So really, you're tipping to prevent yourself from feeling bad.Exactly. Nothing more.
Alexandra2525
03-25-25, 20:15
CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.
By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.
Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.
BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.
There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.
Good Luck.That's super helpful, thank you!
CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.
By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.
Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.
BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.
There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.
Good Luck.No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.
But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.
-Gabacho.
Gaijin Gigolo
03-26-25, 00:57
CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.
By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.
Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.
BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.
There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.
Good Luck.Thanks for the warning. Will be staying far away from that collection of aunties.
Plant Smoke
03-26-25, 04:14
Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.
In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?
Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?
Plant Smoke
03-26-25, 04:44
This is for the newbies that are thinking about going to Jakarta. I'm going to give you the real impressions of the place from a guy that likes high quality living and high quality women. This is not from the perspective of a cheap charlie. When I go on a trip I expect to live like a king. I read the stories of some guys scraping up a few pennies to come here and live like a peasant, no thanks, that's not for me.
Airport.
First thing after getting off the plane, I bought the visa on arrival, I think it was equivalent to $30 USD. Passport check was easy, I went to the agent, she looked at my passport and said next time go through the machines and just scan and go. Ok cool will do.
All this talk about ATM's and low withdrawals. There are 3 ATM's before / after customs can't remember. The first machine is an HSBC and the other 2 are major Indonesian banks. The machines have a 3 mil IDR limit. Very easy to get all the cash you need from these machines. I did 4 transactions and took a total of $12 mil. No headache no hassle. Easy..Well this post is a little short on details. I need elaboration please. So you buy the visa on arrival ok. That's good for 30 days? How do you get the additional 30 days. I do not want to visit immigration office for additional 30 days. I want to pay an agent to get me my additional 30 days. What is a Jakarta agency that does this that won't rip you off?
And what about the onward flight? I do things spontaneously; I have never planned ahead in my life. With two weeks left on visa I will purchase flight into batam and cross into Singapore.
Does immigration Jakarta question you about your onward flight plans? thanks a helluva lot.
Plant Smoke
03-26-25, 05:03
Pool tables at terminal 2 huh? Sounds like an area, the pool tables, that might have decent lighting to get a look at your girl before you choose her. Dim lighting in this joint seems like a master plan.
How many of the girls would be chooseable with normal lighting?
CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.
By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.
Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.
BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.
There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.
Good Luck.Wow I can't even imagine someone can go with this kind of looking womens for free. To pay them 2 millions need to be out of your mind!!
Rocketeer666
03-26-25, 06:55
Thanks for the warning. Will be staying far away from that collection of aunties.LOL it must be some proper girls there for that price LMAO!
Alexandra2525
03-26-25, 16:01
Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.
In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?
Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?Take the Doxy in the morning after breakfast and then drinking in the evening is fine. I did take one of those gut bacteria capsules every day anyway just to make myself feel better.
CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.
By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.
Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.
BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.
There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.
Good Luck.I think 2-3 million would be fair for these women. To pay ME to bed them: the.
What are some venues that offer genuinely hot and young girls?
Pool tables at terminal 2 huh? Sounds like an area, the pool tables, that might have decent lighting to get a look at your girl before you choose her. Dim lighting in this joint seems like a master plan.Pool table area also has dim lighting.
The good lighting area will be the along the walls with the couches with all the girls. If you want to see the girls, it is better to walk around the venue, and look at the girls sitting on the couches, rather then waiting for the mammasan to bring over several girls.
How many of the girls would be chooseable with normal lighting?It would depend on your standards.
Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?
They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?
Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.You don't need to buy them a drink to talk to them. I believe it's up the girls how long they want to sit with you.
Why not just go with your gut instincts and pay 365 K to interview a naked girl in the room. It's only about $22 US. Cheaper than a lap dance. If you are on a budget (nothing wrong with that), then you can interview the girls beforehand without buying a drink. Although I've never seen a monger interview 5 or 10 girls before choosing one. Try it. Wondering if you will develop a "reputation".
Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.
In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?
Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?Generally, mixing alcohol and antibiotics would reduce the effectiveness of the antibiotic drug. Example: it might take 2 weeks to cure your STD instead of the normal 1 week.
Of course, you should consult your doctor / pharmacist about the health affects of mixing alcohol and Doxy-Pep. Or least read the written literature (it said that it can "potentially" lead to side effects).
Gaijin Gigolo
03-27-25, 04:06
No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.
But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.
-Gabacho.Not just children but GRANDCHILDREN in some of them's cases. Jaysus.
Banana Boi
03-27-25, 12:50
Although I've never seen a monger interview 5 or 10 girls before choosing one. Try it. Wondering if you will develop a "reputation".Sadly I have. In fact, I walked into Classic with him. Old American guy in his 70's who was my friend's friend. Mamasans kept bringing girls to him and he would feel them up as long as he could until the girls got fed up. No drinks. No intentions to take a girl. He said he was saving himself for BATS / CJ's later around midnight. It was 6 pm! I told him not to waste girls' time but he didn't listen. Disassociated myself with him and never went out with him again.
Rocketeer666
03-29-25, 01:39
Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.
Any experiences here?
Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.
Any experiences here?I read somewhere you had to pay the Indo gvt 50 k USD to marry an Indonesian girl.
The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.
Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.
In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?
Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?No interaction with alcohol. Only interaction with alcohol for Metronidazol, Tinidazol, and some few other antibiotics.
Rocketeer666
03-29-25, 04:30
I read somewhere you had to pay the Indo gvt 50 k USD to marry an Indonesian girl.
The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.I've did a thorough online search and there is nothing about a such government fee on marriage, I've also came across a lot of western / indo marriage culture advice but nothing about dating / marrying a pro, FL advice. That's probably easier to find here I hope!
I've did a thorough online search and there is nothing about a such government fee on marriage, I've also came across a lot of western / indo marriage culture advice but nothing about dating / marrying a pro, FL advice. That's probably easier to find here I hope!You may have to buy off the girl from the outfit she is "under contract" with. That may be where I got the 50 k USD story from. I mentioned to a Classic girl I'd like to invite her over to Thailand. She thanked me but she didn't sound like she believed this would ever be possible. Methinks if those girls could freely travel we'd see many of them in Bangkok and Pattaya (instead of girls from Africa 5000 miles away).
Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.
Any experiences here?There are two stages to this question.
1/ Can / should you take an Indo girl overseas? Assuming she has a passport and visa for the arrival country, then sure. It's actually easier that many other Asian countries that have anti people smuggling initiatives. She won't get stopped at the airport just because immigration feels like it.
2/. What if she is a hooker? Can you: sure. See above. A freelancer can just leave with you. However, a girl indentured to one of the big brothels or someone who is paying off debts will have to clear those debts before she can leave. Even if a girl doesn't have debts, she will likely tell you that she has, just to get more money out of you. Should you is a totally different matter. Most would argue against traveling with a hooker, especially back home. The downsides and risks can be huge. Lots of guys still do it and many do it with out consequence so you need to make your own mind up. I'd never do it. Why would anyone want to import a hooker INTO Thailand?
The above assumes that you are asking about a short term holiday then return. Forever is a totally different matter.
Enjoy. G.
Rocketeer666
03-29-25, 07:00
There are two stages to this question.
1/ Can / should you take an Indo girl overseas? Assuming she has a passport and visa for the arrival country, then sure. It's actually easier that many other Asian countries that have anti people smuggling initiatives. She won't get stopped at the airport just because immigration feels like it.
2/. What if she is a hooker? Can you: sure. See above. A freelancer can just leave with you. However, a girl indentured to one of the big brothels or someone who is paying off debts will have to clear those debts before she can leave. Even if a girl doesn't have debts, she will likely tell you that she has, just to get more money out of you. Should you is a totally different matter. Most would argue against traveling with a hooker, especially back home. The downsides and risks can be huge. Lots of guys still do it and many do it with out consequence so you need to make your own mind up. I'd never do it. Why would anyone want to import a hooker INTO Thailand?
The above assumes that you are asking about a short term holiday then return. Forever is a totally different matter.
Enjoy. G.Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.
I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.
I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?
Thanks.
Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.
I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.
I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?
Thanks.Why would you want to involve yourself in that situation?
You actually want to seriously date a prostitute?
Rocketeer666
03-29-25, 07:20
Why would you want to involve yourself in that situation?
You actually want to seriously date a prostitute?I got the feeling she's a normal girl who got caught by mafia and that really breaks my heart. If I would be able to help her I don't mind.
Wondering if someone here had such an experience.
Plant Smoke
03-29-25, 10:44
Plantsmoke here. My sources say this very long jalan tubagus angke is an erotic camping trip filled with 8-hour blue tents. All the way to dan mogot. I. e. A streetwalker zone. There seem to be perils as well including ladyboys taking motodrivers keys and throwing them in the river.
Key here, on the fly, is determining the girl-holding sections along this stretch. Would be fun, like a train track hunt.
Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.
Any experiences here?In local and cheap brothels, you have regularly young and sweet girls who work a few month, and then, get married with a local. When I used to go to Surabaya, I always met a sweet and young thing, and every time I come back next year, the girl quit and was married with a local customer, it's really common.
I am talking to low end brothels, for the high end brothels, girls also often quit next year, but for other reasons, not sure it's a good idea to GFE those girls, except you want to bring her in your country, an educated girl is a +.
For the question a "normal girl" or a pro, it's a vast debate. Of course, a civie is the best, but it take month to have a real GFE. In brothels you can found literally hundred and them the same day, and they are all completely different girls, so in one month here, you can found exactly what you are looking for.
Strike while the iron is hot, it get me time to understand they live only for today, not tomorrow, really not in one year, promises for tomorrow mean nothing. So if you find a good girl, don't wait and go make it happen, if you don't, another guy will show up to take your place.
Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.
I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.
I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?
Thanks.One thing to remember is that Classic type girls are normally not paying off their own debt. Typically it's for the family. Either a medical disaster or dad's gambling or drugs. It's never something innocent like she just borrowed some money to buy a nice dress. When dad finds out that she has hooked a foreigner rich enough to fly her around the world, then the demands for more money are not going to stop. If anything they will get worse.
You have a lot of unknown and what ifs in your list. All of them have the potential to become a drama for you down the line. I'd recommend finding a more typical girl who doesn't have all the baggage and headwinds and just have a normal relationship with her.
With respect, it sounds like your only asking because you live in a western pussy prison and are desperate to find someone. Give it some more time and visits. You will see that there are literally thousands of girls to choose from and you can sort between those who are fun for one night only and those that you can take home to meet the family.
Good luck. G.
Why would you want to involve yourself in that situation?
You actually want to seriously date a prostitute?Hookers make great girlfriends. Of course, there are two conditions: 1/ go in with your eyes open and 2/ never try to save a hoe. I'd suggest Rocketeer need to work on both.
Enjoy. G.
I got the feeling she's a normal girl who got caught by mafia and that really breaks my heart. If I would be able to help her I don't mind.
Wondering if someone here had such an experience.Suuuuureeeee. Here's the real test.
Pay her debt with no strings attached.
Or are you only willing IF you get something in return?
BenderOver
03-29-25, 20:10
No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.
But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.
-Gabacho.I might have posted in the past teasing Gabacho for one thing or another, but usually his posts are straight up and reflect truthfully. This post is 100% on point. I'm in complete agreement.
The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.I know a normal (non-p4p) early 20's girl I met last time I was in Jakarta later traveled to Thailand with her group of friends for a week, so I doubt there are any such restrictions on passport or travel.
I got the feeling she's a normal girl who got caught by mafia and that really breaks my heart. If I would be able to help her I don't mind.
Wondering if someone here had such an experience.Dating a foreign girl comes with all sorts of problems. Dating a foreign prostitute complicates things ever further. If you really feel bad for her, I don't blame you for it. We are all human after all. The things I've done for foreign women amaze even myself when I think about it. My advice to you is to pay her debt and walk away and never talk to her again. Or simply never talk to her again. It seems like you are getting emotionally attached and it opens you up to all sorts of bad things.
If you bring this girl to the UK, you're going to turn her into a UK girl. If thats what you're going to end up with, might as well just get a girl from the UK. Cheaper, less hassle. The great sex is going to dissapear any way you cut it.
It always amazes me when someone wants to make a WG as GF and asks for advice on ISG.
We all are here on ISG for exact opposite reason, I believe we all here on ISG to find more and more girls to bang as we are bored with one GF / spouse.
Nothing against finding a GF, but ISG is not the platform for that, maybe mach.com is better.
I have met some WGs is Jakarta (in CJs, Bats and even Emporium) who are ready to go with me to Thailand, they just want the experience (flight, hotel, all the stuff they can put on IG).
Also, last year I met a girl on Seeking in Jakarta and we met again in Japan (she was by herself and I was there for fun), we did spend some time together.
I saw her WhatsApp status showing some Japanese places and asked her if she was in Japan and we met in Kyoto for couple of hours.
Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta ....
Can someone post the link to official website to get your Visa before you arrive. I've looked and can't seem find it thanks.
Muzungufotsy
03-31-25, 12:33
Can someone post the link to official website to get your Visa before you arrive. I've looked and can't seem find it thanks.Hey dude, This is ISG not Tripadvisor.
This intel can be found within 10 seconds on Google.
Come on!
It always amazes me when someone wants to make a WG as GF and asks for advice on ISG.
Where else are you going to find people who will not look down on you for paying to fuck women, and who may have experience in entertaining a relationship with them?
Can someone post the link to official website to get your Visa before you arrive. I've looked and can't seem find it thanks.This is The Official eVisa website for Indonesia https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id but it times out whenever I try to access it. Maybe it's only a temporary outage. I found other sites that posted the same link, so it must have worked at one time.
This is The Official eVisa website for Indonesia https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id but it times out whenever I try to access it. Maybe it's only a temporary outage. I found other sites that posted the same link, so it must have worked at one time.If you go to the official embassy in Germany you will find the link under visa.
But!
Visa processing will be temporarily closed on 28th (Friday), March 2025 collective leave of Nyepi holy day (1947 saka new year) and on 2nd (Wednesday) to the 7th (Monday), April 2025 due to the public holiday and collective leave of Nyepi holy day (1947 saka new year) and Eid al-Fitr 1446 Hijriyyah.
However, visa exemption and visa on arrival services are still accessible. We will resume regular operation on 8th (Tuesday) April 2025.
Notes:
Visa applications received on 27th (Thursday) of March 2025, will start to be processed on 8th (Tuesday) April, 2025.
https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/
Rocketeer666
04-01-25, 11:22
Where else are you going to find people who will not look down on you for paying to fuck women, and who may have experience in entertaining a relationship with them?That's exactly why I asked here, and thankful for the suggestion and also good to hear some positive criticism as it is indeed a tricky situation.
So far only one person came on DM about how he married a Brazilian pro and brought her home. Thing lasted few years then divorced but sex was still on point. I would sign for that 🤘.
It always amazes me when someone wants to make a WG as GF and asks for advice on ISG.
We all are here on ISG for exact opposite reason, I believe we all here on ISG to find more and more girls to bang as we are bored with one GF / spouse.
Nothing against finding a GF, but ISG is not the platform for that, maybe mach.com is better.
I have met some WGs is Jakarta (in CJs, Bats and even Emporium) who are ready to go with me to Thailand, they just want the experience (flight, hotel, all the stuff they can put on IG).
Also, last year I met a girl on Seeking in Jakarta and we met again in Japan (she was by herself and I was there for fun), we did spend some time together.
I saw her WhatsApp status showing some Japanese places and asked her if she was in Japan and we met in Kyoto for couple of hours.We have all different motivation here.
Some of us try to date a no pro, but if the date going bad, we always have the option to finish the journey in Classic or Travel.
Having this option remove a lot of stress unlikely in our western country.
For dating normal girl no need advise (or maybe a little bit), but I need ISG to finish and improve my journey in the brothels.
Besides ISG can give some useful information about indo girls, pro or no pro.
I am visiting Ubud and Seminyak in May and would love to visit some spas where I can get action. Need to be discreet setups as I Am travelling with family and friends. Could someone recommend some places. Also would like to know typical rates for counter and for extras- would like B2 B, Blow job without condom and possibly FS.
Had posted on Bali forum, but realise it is not very active. Would appreciate some pointers.
Thanks.In Bali now. I did dream spa, pretty good, cute women that weren't perfect but but were hot. Very expensive by Jakarta standards 2 m for 2 hours, 2 therapists or 1 m 1 therapist for 75 m. I guess Spa 129 is also quite good according to my grab driver, they were closed for Eid though or w,e. Sway is good for non FS, I was going to go to Delta since I wanted a real massage with bonus but the location in Bali has terrible reviews, Sway seems the winner for this. The street massage shops should be avoided, even my grab driver told me they scam; too bad because there are some cute girls, I'd be quite happy to pay them and so would other dudes, but I guess they'd rather scam for pennies instead of pounds. FYI, all the girls at Dream are kinda freelance, so if you get a long they will give you their whatsapp, 600 k to 1 m for a few hours at your hotel.
To bring this thread back to Jakarta. Has anyone done Classic Spa? There aren't a lot of recently searchable reviews, prices etc. I kind of like the massage and chill before action thing, good lunch time activity. There are some other spots I've seen on tele but not much on Classic Spa.
Gaijin Gigolo
04-02-25, 06:02
We have all different motivation here.
Some of us try to date a no pro, but if the date going bad, we always have the option to finish the journey in Classic or Travel.
Having this option remove a lot of stress unlikely in our western country.
For dating normal girl no need advise (or maybe a little bit), but I need ISG to finish and improve my journey in the brothels.
Besides ISG can give some useful information about indo girls, pro or no pro.The challenge of "girlfriending" a non-pro is what does it for me. And if it doesn't work out. As you said.
Plant Smoke
04-02-25, 08:46
March 21 2025 report: Jakarta: After being closed for awhile, the Gunung Antang localization is now open again. The east Jakarta Satpol PP has again disciplined ther woman and men who are horny at the location, on Friday morning, March 21. During the raid, officers found commercial sex workers (CSW, s) hanging around in the Cipinang area, Jatinegara district, east Jakarta. Satpol PP continued operations in the Gunung Antang prostitution localization area, which is located under the Matraman Station railway tracks, Jatinegara.
Meanwhile the area where the raids weere carrierd out were along Jalan DI Panjaitan, under the Matraman Station Railway tracks, the Gunung Antang prostitution localization (which historically I believe was along the tracks between Matraman and Jatinegara stations) , Kampung Melayu to 1 Gusti Ngurah Rai.
The location where the PSK "hang out" in East Jakarta that is no less busy is the road towards Jatinegara passing jl Pemuda, jl pramuka, jl matraman Raya to Gunung Antang. In this place psk carry out "lust transactions" along the railroad tracks.
BOKER.
My information sais there is some lady activity / action on jalan Raya Bogor, Ciracas District. Once the Sports Center was built there the womasn tgook to the streets around the area. Would be an interesting stroll thru this area at the very least.
Plant Smoke
04-02-25, 09:52
Plantsmoke here.
NOTE, from my previous post regarding Gunung Antang, did a little research:
-Jalan DI Panjaitan is a rather long street that runs along the toll road. Without further information like a cross street I. E. Location, this is pretty worthless.
- Kampung Melayu is an area, a village that shows up on google maps as jagged line encirclement of an area near jatinegara.
- 1 Gusti Ngurah Rai is a jalan that reaches klender and is a street that runs along the railroad tracks.
Personally what I get out of these reports is that the train tracks possibly starting from Mangarrai station thru Matraman thru Jatinegara all the way to Klender are tracks.
To hunt around. We already know from my reports that under the Matraman station and near the Cipinang prison are hot areas, areas that hold girls.
So there, there is my contribuition of non Classic banter! Ok now back to the Classic banter.
Plant Smoke
04-02-25, 14:10
Believe it or not, there are many men who only do CBJ for safety. BBBJ is reasonably risky and many married men will avoid for that reason. Again, everyone is not looking for the same thing. If you want the hottest possible girl with the least amount of effort and are looking for CBJ then why not 1001? Also one report is not sufficient to judge the entire operation. Many people have sub par experiences at Classic and other posters have had good experiences at 1001, including BBBJ. I have not been to 1001 but I do go to Emporium and clearly am more than happy to pay 1.6 M for what they provide there over 500 K at Classic. I'm not being a snob. I also went to totally local holes for 300 K as well. Each serves its purpose and offers a different product and experience. The only thing we should be alerting people to is outright scams, which clearly 1001 is not.1.9 million rupiah at 1001, for a CBJ? How did this happen? How do you make sure it doesn't happen to you? Did this dude not have any conversation with the girl? What is the protocol at 1001? Do you pick her and pay at the counter not having any idea what is to happen?
Plantsmoke here.
NOTE, from my previous post regarding Gunung Antang, did a little research:
-Jalan DI Panjaitan is a rather long street that runs along the toll road. Without further information like a cross street I. E. Location, this is pretty worthless.
- Kampung Melayu is an area, a village that shows up on google maps as jagged line encirclement of an area near jatinegara.
- 1 Gusti Ngurah Rai is a jalan that reaches klender and is a street that runs along the railroad tracks.
Personally what I get out of these reports is that the train tracks possibly starting from Mangarrai station thru Matraman thru Jatinegara all the way to Klender are tracks.
To hunt around. We already know from my reports that under the Matraman station and near the Cipinang prison are hot areas, areas that hold girls.
So there, there is my contribuition of non Classic banter! Ok now back to the Classic banter.When are you going to Jakarta?
Emporium:
Ok so after I retired from Classic, I moved on to Emporium. My oh my was this an eye opening experience! Let's start from the beginning, when you enter you are brought down to the registration desk. I knew from recommendations from this forum to ask if David was working. Lucky for me he was working that day, David is like your very own pussy concierge. He helped check me in, you get a wrist band and reception locks your phone in a plastic case. David explained all the pricing, rules and how everything works then escorted me to the lounge.
I visited Emporium the most durning my trip, about 12 times in total. I can't emphasize enough how different this place is from classic. There are no pushy mama-sans, the lighting is a lot better, the set up with couches for clients are close enough to where the ladies are sitting to make for an easier selection process. You sit on the couch with your pussy concierge which in my case was David and he walks through his talent recommendations while you relax and drink a beer. No pressure, just a relaxed, clean, comfortable environment. There are 2 categories differentiated by what couch the lady is sitting on, the first couch to the right was 1. 4 mil, and the middle couch and the one on the left was 1. 9 mil. My first encounter was from the 1. 9 mil couch. I knew the second I saw her I had to have her. Abbreviated version of her name is Ria, she had the face and body I love. David made the arrangements and the next thing I know we are walking hand and hand down to the Spa. You use your wrist band number to correspond with your assigned locker, which opens electronically. You get changed into spa shorts that are provided by Emporium and head to the hot tub sauna area.
You can choose how you want to spend time with your lady. Hot tub, cold plunge pool, super hot plunge pool, wet sauna, dry sauna, relaxation futon mat area that is curtained off. You have a lot of options and variety. I used everything they had to offer at one point or another. So on this first encounter when Ria walked out of the women's dressing room in her bikini, I couldn't believe my eyes, she looked even hotter than in the lounge. I was like a kid in a candy store, so happy, was hard to contain my excitement as the little head was starting to stand at attention! She grabbed my hand and we walked to the hot tub where we parked ourselves in the corner and started making out like high school sweet hearts. She was slow grinding on my lap with legs wrapped around me, the whole experience was fantastic! As I sat there in the hot tub I thought to myself, flying half way around the world is finally starting to pay off!
We finished up in the spa, got our robes and towels and made our way back to the room. When you pick a 1. 9 mil girl the package comes with a VIP room. Which has jacuzzi tub, nice big bed with ceiling mirror and all the comforts one should expect at this price point. Ria and I started in the shower, continuing our make out session. She washed me, I washed her. She then went down on me to provide a wonderful BBBJ, looking up at me with those beautiful eyes I will not forget. We made our way to the bed and the GFE experience was in full swing. I felt like I knew her for years, we just clicked. I licked every inch of her perfect body, she then reciprocated. After we started in missionary, then went to doggie and for the finale she got on top and slowly rocked those hips back and fourth, maintaining eye contact before coming in close for more passionate kissing. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but when I looked up at the ceiling mirror and saw her perfect ass grinding away on top of me, it was just too much to hold back, and seconds later I erupted. To say I was impressed with Ria and her service would be an understatement, this was excellent! One of the best I have had in years. We took another shower and cuddled for the remainder of the time we had left. I told her I would be back tomorrow and the next day to see her. She was happy to hear that, she was even happier when I tipped her 600 k. Ria walked me back to the mens locker room and kissed me good bye. I saw David when I was leaving, he gave me his card and told me to contact him anytime.
The next day I sent David a text that I was coming back and I wanted to see Ria again. He arranged everything, I arrived 5 minutes early for my appointment, David had reception check me in and then he brought me to the lounge where Ria was already waiting for me. We picked up where we left off yesterday but this time we did the dry sauna and futon relaxation area before heading to the bedroom. Ria was just as hot and did not disappoint on this go around, just fantastic service all around. After we finished up and started cuddling she asked how long I would be staying in Jakarta. I let her know I would be there for a few more weeks. She said her day off was Sunday. I took that as a hint she wanted to hang out. I told her to come visit me on Sunday and we can go for lunch and a swim. She seemed excited by that prospect so we exchanged contact info and planned a meet up for Sunday.
Classic:
Basement or whatever, went in because despite reading a lot of reports I somehow just kind got confused. Loud AF, some tourists from Asia ordered a beer, got a large one (wanted a small). Someone came over to ask if I wanted to see talent, told her I was leaving, just too loud and pretty empty. A few cute girls but literally none of them even looked at me and they seemed disinterested. About 140 for beer and entry.
Went to Spa. I was late though, got there at 19:45, I think it might be winding down. I chose the most expensive package like a dumbass. I wanted the 90, but IDK why I got the scrub, dumb unless you really want a scrub. This adds about 140 FYI. Got the 90 and scrub then naked HJ for 300 (LOL), it was nice and she had a killer body so whatever. I think I could have haggled but I was kind of confused on the process. So total damage about 800 k for a nice massage and HJ. Also I didn't get to pick my therapist, is this normal or just going late?
I've tried to search for a good run down of Classic Spa, but can't really find anything, too many T2 reports, which If I just walk in and go up I'll give a go tonight, so that's easy. I've seen other Spa's like Paradise spa by Sunter and this list from Zippos http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2950777&viewfull=1#post2950777 so may give some a go.
Can anyone with experience at Classic Spa give a good rundown. I like spa's a bit over clubs. Classic may not be a good choice for that.
What is the best process here, Can you actually choose your girl, What is the right tip, What is the best time to go? Is the 90 minute massage all the time or can you get a girl, or the girl that did the massage to go for more after? My whole session was almost 2 hours and I did the sauna etc. For 20 minutes and had a drink. So all in 800 k for about 2. 5 hours was not a terrible waste, but I'd like to do it the right way. Thanks for replies.
Plant Smoke
04-04-25, 07:53
First of all Banana Boi hasn't been running his mouth; just you and Expat Moron have been talking shit, and quite frankly you have no credibility so you should just STFU. Nobody asked you for your idiotic opinions. And you have been known to post false reports in the Medellin forums in the past to try to trick people so they wouldn't come. That's why your credibility is zero.
I never said I was basing my whole entire trip on lokasari I simply said I wanted to check it out yet you idiots feel the need to jump on me and talk your shit.
Also Zippos, GG, and FutureGuy have posted more valuable information to this forum than you LIH69 and your buddy Expat Nazi.Plantsmoke here. This forum is pain in the ass to read. Classic, I get it already. Anything after this is just a poem. I had a head injury, so reading these posts hurts my brain after a half dozen pages.
There has to ber a better way? To select the heavy hitters on here and read only their posts. Couple that with '"reports of distinction".
So I need member usernames of heavy hitters here (a heavy hitter is one with extreme knowledge of Jakarta; that has posted new venues and vagabond journeys that tourists would not think of; bekasi, Bogor, depok extra points) So from above we have:
1. Zippos.
2. GG.
3. Future Guy.
4. Loveithere69.
Anyone here want to contribute suggestions for members whose posts are consistently informative, and intel you have never heard before? Most importantly write facts, not poems.
Plant Smoke
04-04-25, 12:12
Terima kasih telah menghubungi SR MASSAGE TRADISIONAL. Silakan beri tahu apa yang dapat kami bantu.
PRICE LIST & SOP.
PAKET 1 JAM 250 K (HOT).
MASSAGE FULL BODY.
PM + HJ.
PAKET 1 JAM 300 (BRONZE).
MASSAGE FULL BODY..Anyone want to help me out, break this down. What is the name of the massage joint / joints and what is the address.
Plant Smoke
04-04-25, 13:06
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Plant Smoke
04-05-25, 08:10
Usually I spend most my time doing remote work on my laptop and also venturing around trying new places to eat lunch.
Besides mongering I'm a real big foodie, too. I think of myself kind of like an unpublished Anthony Bourdain. I'm always trying food from places most westerners wouldn't even dare to try.
Here's a hole in the wall chicken place I found near the lokasari area.
This plate with 2 grilled chicken thighs, rice and a delicious saus cabe along with an iced tea (the manis) only costs 23 k IDR.
Gabacho.
P.S: The food here is even better than in the Philippines.Hi gabacho,
Can you share the location of this chicken place please. I'm sure it was simply an oversight by you; as I know you like to help people. I'll be in lokisari shortly. "Holes in the wall" establishments are usually harder to find.
Plantsmoke here. This forum is pain in the ass to read. Classic, I get it already. Anything after this is just a poem. I had a head injury, so reading these posts hurts my brain after a half dozen pages.
There has to ber a better way? To select the heavy hitters on here and read only their posts. Couple that with '"reports of distinction".
So I need member usernames of heavy hitters here (a heavy hitter is one with extreme knowledge of Jakarta; that has posted new venues and vagabond journeys that tourists would not think of; bekasi, Bogor, depok extra points) So from above we have:
1. Zippos.
2. GG.
3. Future Guy.
4. Loveithere69.
Anyone here want to contribute suggestions for members whose posts are consistently informative, and intel you have never heard before? Most importantly write facts, not poems.Thanks. Finally found some write ups on the spa. I'd read them almost a year ago LOL, when I was contemplating the trip. T2 was awesome for me at least last night. I've literally probably never seen a better more classic body when you google women and 'perfect' proportions, hour glass, the cups, round ass, no fat fat etc. , plus she want to come to my hotel next week on her holiday. Was actually planning to be a dirty mid life pervert and pick the tiniest 18 ist since I hadn't done that in awhile, but when an attractive girl gives you a genuine smile when you walk in that's a winner and it was.
So thanks and I'll give the spa a try again in a bit, then hit t2 again and will not write anything more on classic, because you're right, this isn't a dear diary.
I like Redtop BTW, but the laundry service is RIDICOULOUS, like a trip to classic for not that much stuff. It's also annoying to walk but stupid to grab a car / bike. It's 100% not chill if you want to have a girl, SO many people in the lobby to say Hi and judge you LOL. I'm moving next week, glad I just booked a few days. Better to come down from Holiday Inn, Grand Mercure or Mercure (which I'm thinking about only for the in house massage brothel, but HI has Sugar Spa right by anyway) and those seem far more chill for bringing back. The grab driver will perhaps judge you for Classic, but mostly just laugh and wish he was going.
Anyone want to help me out, break this down. What is the name of the massage joint / joints and what is the address.If you google 'sr massage traditional Jakarta' it shows up with their insta page srmassagefullbody which hasn't been updated since late 24 and nothing looks that special. South side of central Jakarta heading to the east.
Emporium:
Ok so after I retired from Classic, I moved on to Emporium. My oh my was this an eye opening experience! Let's start from the beginning, when you enter you are brought down to the registration desk. I knew from recommendations from this forum to ask if David was working. Lucky for me he was working that day, David is like your very own pussy concierge. He helped check me in, you get a wrist band and reception locks your phone in a plastic case. David explained all the pricing, rules and how everything works then escorted me to the lounge.
I visited Emporium the most durning my trip, about 12 times in total. I can't emphasize enough how different this place is from classic. There are no pushy mama-sans, the lighting is a lot better, the set up with couches for clients are close enough to where the ladies are sitting to make for an easier selection process. You sit on the couch with your pussy concierge which in my case was David and he walks through his talent recommendations while you relax and drink a beer. No pressure, just a relaxed, clean, comfortable environment. There are 2 categories differentiated by what couch the lady is sitting on, the first couch to the right was 1. 4 mil, and the middle couch and the one on the left was 1. 9 mil. My first encounter was from the 1. 9 mil couch. I knew the second I saw her I had to have her. Abbreviated version of her name is Ria, she had the face and body I love. David made the arrangements and the next thing I know we are walking hand and hand down to the Spa. You use your wrist band number to correspond with your assigned locker, which opens electronically. You get changed into spa shorts that are provided by Emporium and head to the hot tub sauna area.
You can choose how you want to spend time with your lady. Hot tub, cold plunge pool, super hot plunge pool, wet sauna, dry sauna, relaxation futon mat area that is curtained off. You have a lot of options and variety. I used everything they had to offer at one point or another. So on this first encounter when Ria walked out of the women's dressing room in her bikini, I couldn't believe my eyes, she looked even hotter than in the lounge. I was like a kid in a candy store, so happy, was hard to contain my excitement as the little head was starting to stand at attention! She grabbed my hand and we walked to the hot tub where we parked ourselves in the corner and started making out like high school sweet hearts. She was slow grinding on my lap with legs wrapped around me, the whole experience was fantastic! As I sat there in the hot tub I thought to myself, flying half way around the world is finally starting to pay off!
We finished up in the spa, got our robes and towels and made our way back to the room. When you pick a 1. 9 mil girl the package comes with a VIP room. Which has jacuzzi tub, nice big bed with ceiling mirror and all the comforts one should expect at this price point. Ria and I started in the shower, continuing our make out session. She washed me, I washed her. She then went down on me to provide a wonderful BBBJ, looking up at me with those beautiful eyes I will not forget. We made our way to the bed and the GFE experience was in full swing. I felt like I knew her for years, we just clicked. I licked every inch of her perfect body, she then reciprocated. After we started in missionary, then went to doggie and for the finale she got on top and slowly rocked those hips back and fourth, maintaining eye contact before coming in close for more passionate kissing. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but when I looked up at the ceiling mirror and saw her perfect ass grinding away on top of me, it was just too much to hold back, and seconds later I erupted. To say I was impressed with Ria and her service would be an understatement, this was excellent! One of the best I have had in years. We took another shower and cuddled for the remainder of the time we had left. I told her I would be back tomorrow and the next day to see her. She was happy to hear that, she was even happier when I tipped her 600 k. Ria walked me back to the mens locker room and kissed me good bye. I saw David when I was leaving, he gave me his card and told me to contact him anytime.
The next day I sent David a text that I was coming back and I wanted to see Ria again. He arranged everything, I arrived 5 minutes early for my appointment, David had reception check me in and then he brought me to the lounge where Ria was already waiting for me. We picked up where we left off yesterday but this time we did the dry sauna and futon relaxation area before heading to the bedroom. Ria was just as hot and did not disappoint on this go around, just fantastic service all around. After we finished up and started cuddling she asked how long I would be staying in Jakarta. I let her know I would be there for a few more weeks. She said her day off was Sunday. I took that as a hint she wanted to hang out. I told her to come visit me on Sunday and we can go for lunch and a swim. She seemed excited by that prospect so we exchanged contact info and planned a meet up for Sunday.I've been to the Emporium a lot and I'm going back next week, but did I understand correctly that you paid 2. 5 million for this visit? I've usually never paid more than 1. 6 million there. What happened there? I mean, when the girls move out, they usually don't look much different than they did in the Travel or Classic!
Hi gabacho,
Can you share the location of this chicken place please. I'm sure it was simply an oversight by you; as I know you like to help people. I'll be in lokisari shortly. "Holes in the wall" establishments are usually harder to find.It was directly across from the A&W when you exit lokasari plaza onto that side street there. I'm talking about that smaller street that has a lot of moto traffic, it will be literally right in front of you as you're walking out of the plaza. That was probably one of the cheapest places I ever ate lunch at in Jakarta.
-Gabacho.
Plant Smoke
04-06-25, 08:43
The little tokyo is the nickname for two blocks of streets, namely jalan Melawai 6,7,9 located in block m square mall complex, Kebayoran Baru, South Jakarta. The later it gets, the more crowded.
Little tokyo gets. On normal days there are often rows of woman dressed sexily on the side of the road. (The authorities usually turn a blind eye to people with money).
I know ill be checkin out the area. Couldn't be much more expensive then Malio.
I have to Lowe massages in block M.
Price was 390.000 for massage + HJ + CIM.
Have to pick lady from picture.
Cute face and titties. Rest body was ok and she made me think she liked what she was doing.
Sort of a massage first. Said 90 minutes. But massage done in 40 minutes. I was outside in less than an hour.
The little tokyo is the nickname for two blocks of streets, namely jalan Melawai 6,7,9 located in block m square mall complex, Kebayoran Baru, South Jakarta. The later it gets, the more crowded.
Little tokyo gets. On normal days there are often rows of woman dressed sexily on the side of the road. (The authorities usually turn a blind eye to people with money).
I know ill be checkin out the area. Couldn't be much more expensive then Malio.
I like Redtop BTW, but the laundry service is RIDICOULOUS, like a trip to classic for not that much stuff...I couldn't find any genuine laundry shop in that area. The few mentioned on Google maps turned out not to exist or to be hopelessly uninviting. I guess cheap laundry can be problematic in Jakarta.
I couldn't find any genuine laundry shop in that area. The few mentioned on Google maps turned out not to exist or to be hopelessly uninviting. I guess cheap laundry can be problematic in Jakarta.Another benefit to staying in the pasar baru area is that I had access to a laundry shop right up the street. They washed all my clothes for 40 k. I would drop them off once a week in the mornings and then pick them up in the afternoons.
-Gabacho.
Plant Smoke
04-08-25, 08:34
Jakarta: 3-29-2018 prostitution practices are said to not only exist in entertainment venues or hotels. Prostitution also exists in public and open places.
Head of social rehabilitation Section of the West Jakarta Social Service Sutaawijaya mapped out three locations that are the "bases" of commercikal sex workers (CSW).
In the west Jakarta area.
There is in Pesing, Kota tua which is on the corner of the rail before entering Kota Tua, and on Jalan Gajah Mada.
To be continued.
Plant Smoke
04-08-25, 10:22
Continued. Sutawijaya said the base area for PSK in Pesing is precisely on jalan Panjeran Tubagus Angke, right on the edge of the river. There, female PSKs stand late at night. Those that come in and out (of Pesing), (the execution takes place at the place) that uses a blue tent, said Sutawijaya. Although often raided, the location is still a hangout for PSK.
So regarding kota rail tracks the two next stations that both take right hand bends 90 degrees are:
1. Kampung Bandan Station.
2. Jayakarta Station.
There is the remote chance, he was actually talking about rawa-bebek, "around the bend", back in 2018?
Thought for a minute about humping the train tracks, then came to my senses. All train track locations either on top or underneath have entry points.
So what you do is go to Kota, Kampung Bandan, or Jayakarta and grab a freelance motodriver in front of station at nightfall and in bahasa say "train track girls".
Note* Although not unimportant, 2018 reports are still legit because, hookers always return.
Plant Smoke
04-09-25, 05:24
Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card?. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them!
Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.
And if I book lion air thru agoda, they'll rip me off with additional baggage fees.
Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.
Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card?. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them!
Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.
And if I book lion air thru agoda, they'll rip me off with additional baggage fees.
Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.I haven't had any problems with Lion Air or any other airline so far. Could it be something to do with your card system settings?
Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card?. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them!
Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.
And if I book lion air thru agoda, they'll rip me off with additional baggage fees.
Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.I have booked flights from small airlines through Trip.com. Zero hassle once you're a Trip.com customer.
Plant Smoke
04-10-25, 02:03
Reddit said this has been a problem. I. e. Indonesian airlines accepting foreign credit cards. In my case traveloka.com happened to ber the cure. Thanks for your responses.
God sometimes tests you out, "How bad do you wanta go to Jakarta". So far jumping his hurdles.
Hung Man 1808
04-10-25, 04:49
. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run?If I've understood the above correctly. Why are you doing a visa run from Jakarta to Batam? You haven't left Indonesia.
Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them! Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.Haven't had a problem with cards being rejected on Indonesian sites since the early 2010's, when they didn't accept anything except Indonesian cards. I don't know if the debit card (I presume that's what you mean by ATM card) causes issues, I know one I have hasn't. Maybe the bank has detected you using the card outside of your home country and rejected use as potentially fraudulent? I don't know where you are, maybe that is a possibility.
You all don't know how lucky you are these days to do nearly everything online from outside Indonesia. The joys of not needing to talk to any immigration 'official' last time because my eVOA allowed me to use the passport gates like a modern country.
Also if you have done an eVOA, that can be extended online for another 30 days with a fee. I haven't tried it, been flat out enough dealing with the pecularities of the Immigration website just to get an eVOA. But the site seems settled now I. E. It actually worked the last time.
Typing this brought back memories (horrors?) of dealing with Indonesia a little over 10 years ago. Needing an Indonesian to buy tickets online for me, and deliver it physically once I had arrived so I could travel back home on Lion. Actually travelling on Lion. Travelling on Adam Air one month before they slammed a plane into the ocean, because you can still fly a plane with one half of a cockpit working (till it doesn't). Not being able to use a card anywhere. Neverending runs to ATMs for more cash. 'Discussions' with immigration and polisi road blocks.
Then again, the stuff going on then that you could get away with (and certainly not now) made up for it. Ah, memories.
I went to Missouri. Services is not so good the girl that help me only did a very bad massage and did take her top of. Bad BJ. I feel teeth and no CIM. I paid 460 k. Maybe just bad luck with girl. I picked girl from tablet. She is much more pretty on picture, but body good.
Girl at Lowe was much better.
P.S.: both places also serve FS.
Any bar here with girls can you buy single drinks? Not have the whole bottle. Thanks.
Plant Smoke
04-11-25, 15:20
I have tinder gold. I have been sending likes to 300 ladies. I don't have any matches. Is this odd? What the fuck is wrong?. I don't like you, I super like you. What the fuck does that mean? And well boost your like? What vague services they offer. How do you even trust these fuckers?
And if they have to boost your like what does that say about the first like you sent her. What a bunch of horseshit! Forced to buy Seeking.
Expat American
04-11-25, 16:01
Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.Well at least they won't disappear you and ship your ass to a detention center in Borneo or something. Americans complaining about other countries immigration requirements have me shaking my head.
Guys! Forget Classic. Kotah Indah is so much better!
I've been going there every day for the last 5 days to various bars and the quality of girls blows Classic out of the water!
Also the quantity! Each of the main 4-5 bars have close to a 100 girls each. And there are many smaller bars too.
Also there is a lot less issues with girls once in the bedroom and in general they are a lot more friendly and willing to serve.
Also no entry charges, you can go in and out of the various bars as you like.
Also mama-sans are less pushy and a general vibe in the bars is a lot more fun and party like.
It was my first time there and boy was it so much better than the classic Classic / Emporium combination (pun intended).
I've been constantly having amazing experiences there one better than the next.
I can't emphasize enough how much better it was.
Forget Classic, just go to Kotah Indah instead.
Try it and see for yourself.
P.S. Just to clarify, my preferences are touchy feely, deep kissing, condom on, normal sex, speaks basic English (that one was hit and miss). So maybe its not so good for bareback aficionados, anal enthusiasts, riming professionals, pussy connoisseurs, etc. (Or maybe its all available, I just didn't try).
On the other hand 1001 and Seeking disappointed me quite a bit.
1001 Spa was nothing special. I heard the girls there are goddesses. That's bullshit, they are just normal girls same as everywhere else. Just 4 times the price (or 8).
International girls were all on the older side too.
Seeking was a bit of a disaster for me. Not a lot of girls I liked and the ones I contacted either didn't respond or charged high prices.
The only girl I arranged a meting with ended in a disaster because of some small misunderstanding (I had to cancel 15 minutes before the meeting that we both spent time preparing for).
LetMeIn6969
04-11-25, 21:35
I only have one day in Jakarta for sightseeing. Should I do Ancol or Bangdung? I have to be back in Jakarta for my 11 pm flight.
On the other hand 1001 and Seeking disappointed me quite a bit.
1001 Spa was nothing special. I heard the girls there are goddesses. That's bullshit, they are just normal girls same as everywhere else. Just 4 times the price (or 8).
International girls were all on the older side too.
Seeking was a bit of a disaster for me. Not a lot of girls I liked and the ones I contacted either didn't respond or charged high prices.
The only girl I arranged a meting with ended in a disaster because of some small misunderstanding (I had to cancel 15 minutes before the meeting that we both spent time preparing for).I tried seeking too I had the same experience.
I have tinder gold. I have been sending likes to 300 ladies. I don't have any matches. Is this odd? What the fuck is wrong?. I don't like you, I super like you. What the fuck does that mean? And well boost your like? What vague services they offer. How do you even trust these fuckers?
And if they have to boost your like what does that say about the first like you sent her. What a bunch of horseshit! Forced to buy Seeking.I got the same experience. It was completely different to the past when I used tinder gold which tables me to meet girls who would finish working at ktv and bars and go on dates with normal girls. This time I used it when I was in Jakarta so it would show the distance from them. But nope didn't make a difference I don't know why it's so bad. Actually I had lots of matches then when I upgraded to gold I got next to zero for a couple of days. it was like they made me invisible.
Guys! Forget Classic. Kotah Indah is so much better!
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Forget Classic, just go to Kotah Indah instead.
...Provided you don't mind crappy rooms. The Sari Ayu mattress was so worn off it was barely usable. Springs bit into my knees real bad. At Royal it was somewhat better but still bad by any standards.
Recently made a trip to this beautiful mongering heaven city some mongers know it as 'Jakarta', my timing was awful (worst) just on the eid holidays couldn't do much as I was asked by superiors to visit this time. I made a few trips in the past and have explored all places like 1001 colosseum classic travel KC Kelpa Gading emporium massage places and online. Last trip was pure online and I did fairly well so decided to continue and try girls who I couldn't previously.
Girl 1:
She had Japanese style hairstyle, from Bandung, last time she had her periods so asked her to take the fast train or bus ride to Jakarta. Flat chest, A size boobs young in her 20's decent face and a nice ass. As you can read my handle, I am a sucker for good ass. She arrived my hotel same time I checked in, it was eid festivities so my options were few and limited, when she arrived I was a little disappointed as she had some pimples on face but still a 6/10 and that ass was gorgeous. I did video call with her a couple of times, man these filter apps are good. In room she was all ok but clearly told me 3 things were not doable, shoot in pussy, no recording of face and anal. She was a great sport in room, anytime and whatever I wanted was there. Made some videos of her without face and she did a great job in room pleasing me nice happy attitude, finished in mouth and a decent time. Stayed the night, paid her 2.3-2.5 mio all in. 2 times at night, in the middle of night (no finish) when I became horny and one session in the morning. If it wasn't eid I could have avoided but still a decent overall performance I say 6/10.
Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.
I was after this chick to play with me but she clearly told me that she wasn't interested in a local arrangement, so I planned an international trip. Tickets hotel everything booked at my end for a 2 day sex romp, but some unplanned events occurred and trip was called off. We both were disappointed and extremely sad, so I asked her for a local meeting in Jakarta and she was okay with it. The build up to this day was HUGE, we were messaging every day and it was like hard-core sexting to a different level. She sent me her sext tape with another monger and it was like 'I must bang this chick at any cost' so this trip was planned partially for her as well. She works in the hotel industry and had great looking colleagues / friends. I told her and she was okay for it the next time. Looked very nice and had a great body, be cup breasts size and an amazing M ass, we had a drink at a nearby restaurant and chit chatted after which we went inside the room. Her parents were visiting so I had only 3-4 hours with her. She was open to all including CIP CIM (swallow) anal golden shower BDSM multiple shoots and of course no condom. She was around 25-26 and had a well-defined body due to her gym workouts and Pilates and yoga. The sex was breath-taking and too good to be true. Easily amongst my top 5 ever, she kept asking for more and harder. Must have orgasm-ed 8-10 times, no kidding yeah. Guys these indo girls are so horny its difficult to satisfy them at times and today was one such day. I am lean fit muscular energetic and horny but I also felt the dizziness a few times when I was banging her. I eat and drink well. I finished inside her mouth and she swallowed a little. We went out to a nearby bar for drinks and had a good conversation. Spoke crisp English with an accent versatile and had good knowledge, Respect. We came back to room and had another deadly session, and she left around midnight. We tried anal, but she was so tight that I couldn't enter, she couldn't take the pain and started crying so I left her at that. We made out on the bed table sofa overlooking the window and the view of Jakarta city was fantastic, especially from 75-80th floor her ass in doggie and the city just WOW. We also did in the toilet on the floor, in the shower, spectacular evening. Man she screamed / moaned like crazy, there were moments when I was thinking my neighbour will knock and kick me for spoiling his sleep but I was like if there is one I am sure he is enjoying and recording the act. Lots of ass spanking and hard slapping her face cheeks. I remember when I sent her a message that I wanted BDSM her immediate reply was yesss with a huge smile and thumbs up, can't believe these indo girls love heavy BDSM. I paid her 3 mio, I know it was a little high. She started with 4 mio initially and wasn't even interested in the meeting but somehow I had to convince her. 3 mio was totally worth it and if I knew the evening would be like this I would have given 4 mio as well. I was totally drained out and called it a night. Slept peacefully. Her 9/10, -1 for anal. She messaged me the next day and wanted another evening and I was like yeah but no, she didn't want to stay the night and I wanted to try a new babe.
More to come soon.
Provided you don't mind crappy rooms. The Sari Ayu mattress was so worn off it was barely usable. Springs bit into my knees real bad. At Royal it was somewhat better but still bad by any standards.Thats true.
I guess I also need to list the negatives of Kotah Indah.
The main 2 ones for me were:
- Crappy rooms (although I like that they provide water inside) with bad showers (water pressure very low), and crappy beds.
- The weird arrangement of the girls in the bars, where they all are gathered together in one big group, with some pillars or furniture in the way.
And they also use their phones looking down and not looking outside, and they don't walk around much, so you have to move around their area to see selection from many different angles.
Some girls you can only see from a single spot, like move to the left or the right one step and you can't see them anymore.
But on the positive side the lightning is usually good, so you can actually see what the girls looks like.
But yeah, this arrangement is weird, so you need either glasses or good eyesight and move around the group yourself.
Also not sure if its a negative, but girls there don't start sessions with the blowjobs by default like in Classic.
I personally don't need or like it, so for me it works out. None of this Listerine wiping bullshit.
In response to original comment, for me, I would rather have a great experience in a crappy room that an average experience in a great room. YMMV.
Bandung is a small city and has hills & mountains better air quality and traffic. The city is small but not clean and the only place to hang out is near Braga street, that's the night life spot. Plan some chicks if you decide to go to Bandung, plenty of girls there and despo ones. Do remember the train station in Bandung will take you 30 minutes to get to center of city.
I only have one day in Jakarta for sightseeing. Should I do Ancol or Bangdung? I have to be back in Jakarta for my 11 pm flight.
Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.
...This is too hot. I have a trip planned in June and can't wait to go back to Jakarta. Had 2 girls coming to my room and that was heaven.
Plant Smoke
04-12-25, 08:50
Recently made a trip to this beautiful mongering heaven city some mongers know it as 'Jakarta', my timing was awful (worst) just on the eid holidays couldn't do much as I was asked by superiors to visit this time. I made a few trips in the past and have explored all places like 1001 colosseum classic travel KC Kelpa Gading emporium massage places and online. Last trip was pure online and I did fairly well so decided to continue and try girls who I couldn't previously.
Girl 1:
She had Japanese style hairstyle, from Bandung, last time she had her periods so asked her to take the fast train or bus ride to Jakarta. Flat chest, A size boobs young in her 20's decent face and a nice ass. As you can read my handle, I am a sucker for good ass. She arrived my hotel same time I checked in, it was eid festivities so my options were few and limited, when she arrived I was a little disappointed as she had some pimples on face but still a 6/10 and that ass was gorgeous. I did video call with her a couple of times, man these filter apps are good. In room she was all ok but clearly told me 3 things were not doable, shoot in pussy, no recording of face and anal. She was a great sport in room, anytime and whatever I wanted was there. Made some videos of her without face and she did a great job in room pleasing me nice happy attitude, finished in mouth and a decent time. Stayed the night, paid her 2.3-2.5 mio all in. 2 times at night, in the middle of night (no finish) when I became horny and one session in the morning. If it wasn't eid I could have avoided but still a decent overall performance I say 6/10.
Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.
I was after this chick to play with me but she clearly told me that she wasn't interested in a local arrangement, so I planned an international trip. Tickets hotel everything booked at my end for a 2 day sex romp, but some unplanned events occurred and trip was called off. We both were disappointed and extremely sad, so I asked her for a local meeting in Jakarta and she was okay with it. The build up to this day was HUGE, we were messaging every day and it was like hard-core sexting to a different level. She sent me her sext tape with another monger and it was like 'I must bang this chick at any cost' so this trip was planned partially for her as well. She works in the hotel industry and had great looking colleagues / friends. I told her and she was okay for it the next time. Looked very nice and had a great body, be cup breasts size and an amazing M ass, we had a drink at a nearby restaurant and chit chatted after which we went inside the room. Her parents were visiting so I had only 3-4 hours with her. She was open to all including CIP CIM (swallow) anal golden shower BDSM multiple shoots and of course no condom. She was around 25-26 and had a well-defined body due to her gym workouts and Pilates and yoga. The sex was breath-taking and too good to be true. Easily amongst my top 5 ever, she kept asking for more and harder. Must have orgasm-ed 8-10 times, no kidding yeah. Guys these indo girls are so horny its difficult to satisfy them at times and today was one such day. I am lean fit muscular energetic and horny but I also felt the dizziness a few times when I was banging her. I eat and drink well. I finished inside her mouth and she swallowed a little. We went out to a nearby bar for drinks and had a good conversation. Spoke crisp English with an accent versatile and had good knowledge, Respect. We came back to room and had another deadly session, and she left around midnight. We tried anal, but she was so tight that I couldn't enter, she couldn't take the pain and started crying so I left her at that. We made out on the bed table sofa overlooking the window and the view of Jakarta city was fantastic, especially from 75-80th floor her ass in doggie and the city just WOW. We also did in the toilet on the floor, in the shower, spectacular evening. Man she screamed / moaned like crazy, there were moments when I was thinking my neighbour will knock and kick me for spoiling his sleep but I was like if there is one I am sure he is enjoying and recording the act. Lots of ass spanking and hard slapping her face cheeks. I remember when I sent her a message that I wanted BDSM her immediate reply was yesss with a huge smile and thumbs up, can't believe these indo girls love heavy BDSM. I paid her 3 mio, I know it was a little high. She started with 4 mio initially and wasn't even interested in the meeting but somehow I had to convince her. 3 mio was totally worth it and if I knew the evening would be like this I would have given 4 mio as well. I was totally drained out and called it a night. Slept peacefully. Her 9/10, -1 for anal. She messaged me the next day and wanted another evening and I was like yeah but no, she didn't want to stay the night and I wanted to try a new babe.
More to come soon.KC? Is that mis-print?
JohnWick6969
04-12-25, 13:27
Recently made a trip to this beautiful mongering heaven city some mongers know it as 'Jakarta', my timing was awful (worst) just on the eid holidays couldn't do much as I was asked by superiors to visit this time. I made a few trips in the past and have explored all places like 1001 colosseum classic travel KC Kelpa Gading emporium massage places and online. Last trip was pure online and I did fairly well so decided to continue and try girls who I couldn't previously.
Girl 1:
She had Japanese style hairstyle, from Bandung, last time she had her periods so asked her to take the fast train or bus ride to Jakarta. Flat chest, A size boobs young in her 20's decent face and a nice ass. As you can read my handle, I am a sucker for good ass. She arrived my hotel same time I checked in, it was eid festivities so my options were few and limited, when she arrived I was a little disappointed as she had some pimples on face but still a 6/10 and that ass was gorgeous. I did video call with her a couple of times, man these filter apps are good. In room she was all ok but clearly told me 3 things were not doable, shoot in pussy, no recording of face and anal. She was a great sport in room, anytime and whatever I wanted was there. Made some videos of her without face and she did a great job in room pleasing me nice happy attitude, finished in mouth and a decent time. Stayed the night, paid her 2.3-2.5 mio all in. 2 times at night, in the middle of night (no finish) when I became horny and one session in the morning. If it wasn't eid I could have avoided but still a decent overall performance I say 6/10.
Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.
I was after this chick to play with me but she clearly told me that she wasn't interested in a local arrangement, so I planned an international trip. Tickets hotel everything booked at my end for a 2 day sex romp, but some unplanned events occurred and trip was called off. We both were disappointed and extremely sad, so I asked her for a local meeting in Jakarta and she was okay with it. The build up to this day was HUGE, we were messaging every day and it was like hard-core sexting to a different level. She sent me her sext tape with another monger and it was like 'I must bang this chick at any cost' so this trip was planned partially for her as well. She works in the hotel industry and had great looking colleagues / friends. I told her and she was okay for it the next time. Looked very nice and had a great body, be cup breasts size and an amazing M ass, we had a drink at a nearby restaurant and chit chatted after which we went inside the room. Her parents were visiting so I had only 3-4 hours with her. She was open to all including CIP CIM (swallow) anal golden shower BDSM multiple shoots and of course no condom. She was around 25-26 and had a well-defined body due to her gym workouts and Pilates and yoga. The sex was breath-taking and too good to be true. Easily amongst my top 5 ever, she kept asking for more and harder. Must have orgasm-ed 8-10 times, no kidding yeah. Guys these indo girls are so horny its difficult to satisfy them at times and today was one such day. I am lean fit muscular energetic and horny but I also felt the dizziness a few times when I was banging her. I eat and drink well. I finished inside her mouth and she swallowed a little. We went out to a nearby bar for drinks and had a good conversation. Spoke crisp English with an accent versatile and had good knowledge, Respect. We came back to room and had another deadly session, and she left around midnight. We tried anal, but she was so tight that I couldn't enter, she couldn't take the pain and started crying so I left her at that. We made out on the bed table sofa overlooking the window and the view of Jakarta city was fantastic, especially from 75-80th floor her ass in doggie and the city just WOW. We also did in the toilet on the floor, in the shower, spectacular evening. Man she screamed / moaned like crazy, there were moments when I was thinking my neighbour will knock and kick me for spoiling his sleep but I was like if there is one I am sure he is enjoying and recording the act. Lots of ass spanking and hard slapping her face cheeks. I remember when I sent her a message that I wanted BDSM her immediate reply was yesss with a huge smile and thumbs up, can't believe these indo girls love heavy BDSM. I paid her 3 mio, I know it was a little high. She started with 4 mio initially and wasn't even interested in the meeting but somehow I had to convince her. 3 mio was totally worth it and if I knew the evening would be like this I would have given 4 mio as well. I was totally drained out and called it a night. Slept peacefully. Her 9/10, -1 for anal. She messaged me the next day and wanted another evening and I was like yeah but no, she didn't want to stay the night and I wanted to try a new babe.
More to come soon.Any pictures mate?
I've been going there every day for the last 5 days to various bars and the quality of girls blows Classic out of the water!
Also the quantity! Each of the main 4-5 bars have close to a 100 girls each. And there are many smaller bars too.
Also there is a lot less issues with girls once in the bedroom and in general they are a lot more friendly and willing to serve.From my limited experience, girls quality are about the same or worse than Classic. I can still find 1 or 2 girls doable but generally average quality is not as good as Classic.
Room at Starmoon bar is so much more depressing than Classic room.
1001 Spa was nothing special. I heard the girls there are goddesses. That's bullshit, they are just normal girls same as everywhere else. Just 4 times the price (or 8).
International girls were all on the older side too.Girls at 1001 spa are 7-8-9. Classic 5-6-7.
I had service with a girl at 1001 spa with solid 9. Indonesian, light skin, tall 1 m65, model hour glass body. Trooper service. We sweat a lot during the session.
The problem at 1001 spa is price is too expensive. It's hard to negotiate for extra service. Girls would likely don't bother unless willing to pay a lot.
BenderOver
04-12-25, 22:07
I only have one day in Jakarta for sightseeing. Should I do Ancol or Bangdung? I have to be back in Jakarta for my 11 pm flight.You might be risking it with Bandung. You'd have to swoosh in and out, no way you'll make it in a car.
Ancol is hot and a lot of walking. There's a water park sea world and dunia fantasi there. It's fun if you go there with a young date. Sucks to go alone.
Theres also old batavia but that's really become just a totally shitty tourist dive.
Banana Boi
04-13-25, 02:39
KC? Is that mis-print?King Cross.
With and without panties, enjoyyyy.
Any pictures mate?
Yeah it was bro, trust you me. Lucky you, will have lots of fun in June. I remember a punter told me he had 4 girls at one time in Jakarta. He had booked a suite for them he banged all one by one while others waited anxiously in the other room.
This is too hot. I have a trip planned in June and can't wait to go back to Jakarta. Had 2 girls coming to my room and that was heaven.
With and without panties, enjoyyyy.Wow, somebody actually posted photos.
WhoCaresReally
04-14-25, 07:07
Happened with me earlier. I figured out the reason being shadow blocked by Tinder. Everything remain as is except that you cannot be discovered and your likes doesn't reach the girls. Could happen if someone reported you or you keep virtually changing locations often. Cannot do much except to create a new account.
I got the same experience. It was completely different to the past when I used tinder gold which tables me to meet girls who would finish working at ktv and bars and go on dates with normal girls. This time I used it when I was in Jakarta so it would show the distance from them. But nope didn't make a difference I don't know why it's so bad. Actually I had lots of matches then when I upgraded to gold I got next to zero for a couple of days. it was like they made me invisible.
PartyAnimal
04-14-25, 08:58
Friends, Emporium, sagitarious / fortune are the ones I have been visiting, but it's becoming monotonous now.
Any place especially in Central / South with good options (no classic / travel please). Any international cuisine would be appreciated as well.
As for my latest experience. Went to Delta. I had been going to only 2 therapists there everytime to make them open up to me and explore more than HJ, and I think I was becoming successful, but as per latest, both of them have left. So took a new therapist. Massage was really good with enough teasing around balls etc, followed by a standard HJ. Because this was first time with this girl, she didn't allow touching or even kissing. Anyone had more than HJ at this place?
Guys! Forget Classic. Kotah Indah is so much better!
I've been going there every day for the last 5 days to various bars and the quality of girls blows Classic out of the water!
Also the quantity! Each of the main 4-5 bars have close to a 100 girls each. And there are many smaller bars too.
Also there is a lot less issues with girls once in the bedroom and in general they are a lot more friendly and willing to serve.
Also no entry charges, you can go in and out of the various bars as you like.
Also mama-sans are less pushy and a general vibe in the bars is a lot more fun and party like.
It was my first time there and boy was it so much better than the classic Classic / Emporium combination (pun intended).
I've been constantly having amazing experiences there one better than the next..I'm also looking for what you're looking for in sex. So far, I've only been to Emporium, Classic, and Travel, and I was actually really satisfied. Especially Classic with its three floors. Thanks to your recommendation, I'm going to try Kota India. I hope it's as good as you say.
Happened with me earlier. I figured out the reason being shadow blocked by Tinder. Everything remain as is except that you cannot be discovered and your likes doesn't reach the girls. Could happen if someone reported you or you keep virtually changing locations often. Cannot do much except to create a new account.Thankyou I will try this next time. Weird how I got matches when was in Jakarta but when I upgraded to gold to see who liked me so I could match with them no more likes or matches. I might just go regular tinder and create an account whilst I'm there.
Just a quick data point. Line-up is better at 2 pm, before any customers start coming in, than at 3 pm, after part of the girls got taken to the rooms. So if you want to session early, 2 pm is better than 3 pm.
One Classic girl told me they had many customers from Taiwan. I asked who were the bigger spenders, the Taiwanese or the Communist Chinese. She said "by far the latter". We all seem to be getter poorer these days, except the Red Chinese.
Expat American
04-15-25, 07:09
Just a quick data point. Line-up is better at 2 pm, before any customers start coming in, than at 3 pm, after part of the girls got taken to the rooms. So if you want to session early, 2 pm is better than 3 pm.
One Classic girl told me they had many customers from Taiwan. I asked who were the bigger spenders, the Taiwanese or the Communist Chinese. She said "by far the latter". We all seem to be getter poorer these days, except the Red Chinese.Dude, nobody calls them "Communist" or "Red". If you want to distinguish from Taiwanese you can say "Mainland" Chinese.
Just a quick data point. Line-up is better at 2 pm, before any customers start coming in, than at 3 pm, after part of the girls got taken to the rooms. So if you want to session early, 2 pm is better than 3 pm.
That's very interesting. I went as early as possible (around noon for a lunch break would be best for me), but earliest I've been there was a bit after 3 pm, and I remember thinking I should continue trying to delay it till at least after 4 pm as before. Hope your one data point was not an outlier.
I know at least some of the shifts start at 3 pm though (and maybe others start later too, that I don't know).
Plant Smoke
04-15-25, 18:41
Reading back far enough on this thread, then you are aware of a war of words between gabacho and the veterans on this thread. Today the slightest critical thought against a fellow member will get you banned.
Now for the matterat hand. Have you ever tried to operate. Type on this website with a smartphone? It sucks! I arret ived Jakarta yesterday. My internet ughtconnection, telkomsel, bought for a premium price at the airport, seems unable to pierce the wall of a 6.
Th story lokisari hotel. Foolishly I bought into or was funneled into a booth at thve airport that registered my imei. Now nothing works on my phone. Been declined.
With emultiple vpns. If someone jumps out of a lokisari hotel in the next 48 hours it was me But before I jump.
1 starmoon a pillar and furniture block your view? What the het 2 feet fu shill are you talking about? You shift 2 feet in either direction, there is no pillar. As far as fur furniture in your way, there is no furniture.
My life Could saveBack to the matter at hand. You could save my life explaining to shme how I establisha vpn on my laptop? I'm struggling writing this on my phone. I'm in trouble, big time. If any of you have been without your phone and laptop for more than 48 hours you know how I feel. Oh and dealing with no elec. Strip and two prong outlets. When you are green into Jakarta airport the learnin s steepg curve is steep. I need help, you could save my life.
Haha, that is awesome. But I am too old for 4 girls, can only handle 2 at a time.
Looking forward for multiple threesome sessions, already planned 2 sessions and talking to some more on Seeking.
Yeah it was bro, trust you me. Lucky you, will have lots of fun in June. I remember a punter told me he had 4 girls at one time in Jakarta. He had booked a suite for them he banged all one by one while others waited anxiously in the other room.
Hey guys,
You guys are awesomex read some great insights.
Got 4 days in Jakarta.
I will try classic, emporium etc for the first two days whilst busy at other stuffs.
Looking keen to meet sudans or Javanese girls will this be only in bundang or any other location possible, may be in Jakarta itself?
Any leads to find independents, sugar babes g🏪who give good service? Or may be a pimp gives Links or advice would be grateful.
Any one used sanggadis website? Hot girls but looks photoshopped. Any feedback will be great.
Haha, that is awesome. But I am too old for 4 girls, can only handle 2 at a time.
Looking forward for multiple threesome sessions, already planned 2 sessions and talking to some more on Seeking.Only for couple of days. Any leads to find SB apart from paying a fortune at seeking.
Plant Smoke
04-16-25, 11:51
Plantsmoke. I am hurting real bad from true sim card that would transmit thru a steel door to telkomsel that.
Seems to have difficulty going thru hotel walls. Yesterday at kota inda I would type translation and "one one thousand two two thousand" awkward.
Seconds before Bahasa appears. WTF? Is something wrong? The sim was bought at airport first booth on left. It sais telkomsel LIte 60 Gb. Real unhappy, prepared.
To go all the way back to airport and argue.
I'm Hi-jacked with my laptop. Anybody ever try to navigate this forum with a smart phone? Its not fun.
If ever I needed assistance from a stranger, it is now. 100 $, or name your price to install a working vpn on my laptop at a Jakarta coffee shop / starbucks?
And then paranoia sets in after I was unwillingly funneled into a booth at the airport to register my imei. I'm worried.
Indo government is preventing me from a vpn. Why can't they have a vpn that simply has an icon "CONNECT".
You would be doing a humanitarian favor preventing me from jumping thru a window and meeting a new friend. Please have mercy on my soul.
Plant Smoke
04-16-25, 14:44
Took money out of a ATM BRI bank lokasaari plaza and it did not prompt me whether or not I wanted currencre chancry conversion.
I guess they decide in their favor. I'll go back tomorrow and find someone to argue with. Of course the world today is one giant fucking.
Call center and rarely ever do you get to *****-out the one responsible. And Jakarta? One giant electric fence that you pee on before you learn.
I'm getting tired of withdrawing fucking money here. More withdrawals equals more chances the machine will eat your card, more chances for fraud.
Can someone tell me the top 3 atms that consistently dispense 2 million and above?
And no I'm not choosing blue 50000 notes. Acquire small bills thru 100000 change.
Lokisari plaza: I see the carcasses of of bintang mawar and I guess Madonna's that were open in 2010 when I was last here.
Anything around here, lokisari, aside from mamasans / street hookers? Any pubs, spas?
Friends, Emporium, sagitarious / fortune are the ones I have been visiting, but it's becoming monotonous now.
Any place especially in Central / South with good options (no classic / travel please). Any international cuisine would be appreciated as well.
For international cuisine, try Tugu Kunstkring Paleis, good cuisine and you will feel like a Dutch settler, back in the time.
I do the train tracks, if someone wants to explore the 2 next stations, PM me.
Plantsmoke. I am hurting real bad from true sim card that would transmit thru a steel door to telkomsel that.
Seems to have difficulty going thru hotel walls. Yesterday at kota inda I would type translation and "one one thousand two two thousand" awkward.
Seconds before Bahasa appears. WTF? Is something wrong? The sim was bought at airport first booth on left. It sais telkomsel LIte 60 Gb. Real unhappy, prepared.
To go all the way back to airport and argue.
I'm Hi-jacked with my laptop. Anybody ever try to navigate this forum with a smart phone? Its not fun.
If ever I needed assistance from a stranger, it is now. 100 $, or name your price to install a working vpn on my laptop at a Jakarta coffee shop / starbucks?
And then paranoia sets in after I was unwillingly funneled into a booth at the airport to register my imei. I'm worried.
Indo government is preventing me from a vpn. Why can't they have a vpn that simply has an icon "CONNECT".
You would be doing a humanitarian favor preventing me from jumping thru a window and meeting a new friend. Please have mercy on my soul.No offense but your posts are increasing annoying.
All you need to do is download a VPN called WindscrIbe. You can find it in the Google play store. You can also download it onto your laptop. Even I have it on my Chromebook as a Google Chrome extension and it works flawlessly.
And I always use ISG from my smartphone. I even did my eVOA and 30 day visa extension through my smartphone too LOL.
As far as your signal being weak it has nothing to do with the sim card itself. It has to do with the signal strength coming from the cell phone towers and your phone's hardware.
If the ATM didn't mention a conversion fee then you weren't charged one. I used BRI all the time when I was there and was never charged a fee. It might depend on whom you bank with whether or not you are charged a fee but the ATM will mention the fee if you were charged one and you would have to accept or decline it, so by default if there was no mention of a fee then there was no fee charged. You can do the math if you have any doubt, Rp 1,200,000 (a common max withdrawal amount at ATMs in Jakarta) should show up on your account as $71.40 USD give or take). As far as the ATM eating your card that is highly unlikely unless if you forget your card inside the ATM but you should always have several back up cards in the rare event that does happen and have them linked together through zelle so you can zelle yourself money between the different cards.
-Gabacho.
Hey guys,
You guys are awesomex read some great insights.
Got 4 days in Jakarta.
I will try classic, emporium etc for the first two days whilst busy at other stuffs.
Looking keen to meet sudans or Javanese girls will this be only in bundang or any other location possible, may be in Jakarta itself?
Any leads to find independents, sugar babes g🏪who give good service? Or may be a pimp gives Links or advice would be grateful.
Any one used sanggadis website? Hot girls but looks photoshopped. Any feedback will be great.Sudan is a country in Africa.
I'm assuming you meant Sundanese which is an ethnic group in Indonesia. There are Sundanese and Javanese women all over Jakarta. However the Javanese outnumber the Sundanese by a factor of 3 to 1. Jakarta is the largest city on the island of Java.
There are also a lot of ethnic Chinese and Chinese-Indonesian mixed people living in Jakarta. In the area north of classic (the neighborhoods between the Sawa Besar and Mangga Besar metro stations) I ran into alot of ethnic Chinese. One guy who I ran into at a small local dive restaurant even paid for my lunch after talking with me for about a half hour. He was very friendly and interested in the fact that I was there walking around his neighborhood. He told me he was Indo-Chinese but didn't speak any mandarin and that the area I was in was all Indo-Chinese people. When I was done eating and I asked the waitress "berapa" trying to ask how much I owed, the dude told me that he was going to pay it and then he thanked me for coming to his country and welcomed me and said he hoped I enjoyed my stay and would come back again. I also saw a Buddhist temple there on the same street as the small fire station.
The Sundanese women have whiter skin than the Javanese women so that should help you distinguish them. Also you can ask them where they are from "kamu dari mana?" in my experience the Sundanese would usually say Bandung or Bogor.
-Gabacho.
Reading back far enough on this thread, then you are aware of a war of words between gabacho and the veterans on this thread. Today the slightest critical thought against a fellow member will get you banned.
.I would hardly consider American Expat and Loveithere69 to be veterans. I'm more of a veteran here than they are. I've been active on ISG since atleast 2021 in the Colombia forums and I was reading ISG for many years before that. I also have met fellow ISG members in person such as SubCmdr who is one of the real veterans of ISG. Also I have contributed more information than LIH and American Expat combined.
Infact I just helped you with your VPN and ATM issues in my previous post.
You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
I will be back in Jakarta soon and this time I am going to explore the open air brothel of Bekasi (the one that was mentioned in December by GG and then plagiarized by LIH69 a day later).
I also have a civvie girlfriend (the one I took to the taco bell at the grand Indonesia mall) who will be accompanying me on my side trip to Bandung and helping me to find and fuck Sundanese civvies in Bandung. So be on the lookout for my new reports coming this summer.
It would be nice to get back to reading real reports rather than reading complaints about not knowing how to use a VPN on a laptop.
-Gabacho.
Took money out of a ATM BRI bank lokasaari plaza and it did not prompt me whether or not I wanted currencre chancry conversion.
I guess they decide in their favor. I'll go back tomorrow and find someone to argue with. Of course the world today is one giant fucking.
Call center and rarely ever do you get to *****-out the one responsible. And Jakarta? One giant electric fence that you pee on before you learn.
I'm getting tired of withdrawing fucking money here. More withdrawals equals more chances the machine will eat your card, more chances for fraud.
Can someone tell me the top 3 atms that consistently dispense 2 million and above?
And no I'm not choosing blue 50000 notes. Acquire small bills thru 100000 change.
Lokisari plaza: I see the carcasses of of bintang mawar and I guess Madonna's that were open in 2010 when I was last here.
Anything around here, lokisari, aside from mamasans / street hookers? Any pubs, spas?I always fly with two credit cards, which is actually helpful if you don't want to pay in cash on the Classic. I read here that there are ATMs at the airport with more money for withdrawals. I've tried quite a few myself and never got past 1. 3 million.
That's very interesting. I went as early as possible (around noon for a lunch break would be best for me), but earliest I've been there was a bit after 3 pm, and I remember thinking I should continue trying to delay it till at least after 4 pm as before. Hope your one data point was not an outlier.
I know at least some of the shifts start at 3 pm though (and maybe others start later too, that I don't know).If you have time, a lot of time, then watch the spectacle between 4:30 and 5:30 pm In front of the entrance on the street. There, you'll see motorcycles with women on the back arriving every minute, and you'll understand why it makes little sense to go there before 5:30 pm.
Try OkCupid, someone said it worked for them.
Only for couple of days. Any leads to find SB apart from paying a fortune at seeking.
Hard Cowboy
04-17-25, 01:33
Made a visit to Emporium. Not much to report that hasn't already reported. Notable things were: All in price was 1. 9 for a girl in black. Red was 1. 6 I believe. Nobody asked me for additional tips or upsells. Phone locked up in the case. Most of the time everything is in the locker, which I was wondering if it was a bad idea cause they could steal my money. Visited at 3 pm there were only 9 girls available. Some time in the pool and then to the room. I wasn't sure how long the entire session was supposed to be?
Plant Smoke
04-17-25, 03:59
I always fly with two credit cards, which is actually helpful if you don't want to pay in cash on the Classic. I read here that there are ATMs at the airport with more money for withdrawals. I've tried quite a few myself and never got past 1. 3 million.No! I was just at at the airport yesterday; BCA? Second floor I withdrew 2 million, 10 minutes later 2. 5 million but I did not push for 3 millon.
If I have to take out 1 million at a time I will leave the country! L.
That is precisely what this forum should be about! NOT I PILE DROVE HER AND CAME INSIDE HER. (What exactly is a pile driver? Drives the shit to the sewer?
Some of these posters, and they know who they are, we already know you came in her, otherwise you wouldn't of fucked her.
I got the ass right now, am having a terrible time. Dealing with a weak telkomsel sim card called "Lite" that apparently was designed so you can use it in batam.
It is terrible! Ill take the 42 $ loss and get another sim. This forum could have saved me; I reading are. O. the. And 85 pages of fucking poetry.
I know these members! They don't care how I I feel; that I am experiencing great digital hardship; that is of course unless I have value to them. Well my info, bekasi.
In particular, but also Jakarta. Bekasi info would make zippos bekasi spa report read like a bekasi breeze-over. If I don't post again it means I never was able to establish a vpn.
On my laptop and left the country in frustration.
Plant Smoke
04-17-25, 04:45
No offense but your posts are increasing annoying.
All you need to do is download a VPN called WindscrIbe. You can find it in the Google play store. You can also download it onto your laptop. Even I have it on my Chromebook as a Google Chrome extension and it works flawlessly.
And I always use ISG from my smartphone. I even did my eVOA and 30 day visa extension through my smartphone too LOL.
As far as your signal being weak it has nothing to do with the sim card itself. It has to do with the signal strength coming from the cell phone towers and your phone's hardware.
If the ATM didn't mention a conversion fee then you weren't charged one. I used BRI all the time when I was there and was never charged a fee. It might depend on whom you bank with whether or not you are charged a fee but the ATM will mentionpage the fee if you were charged one and you would have to accept or decline it, so by default if there was no mention of a fee then there was no fee charged. You can do the math if you have any doubt, Rp 1,200,000 (a common max withdrawal amount at ATMs in Jakarta) should show up on your account as $71.40 USD give or take). As far as the ATM eating your card that is highly unlikely unless if you forget your card inside the ATM but you should always have several back up cards in the rare event that does happen and have them linked together through zelle so you can zelle yourself money between the different cards.
. -Gabacho.Oh well you seem to be a digital wizard and are "light-stepping" the complexity of winscreens face-page. For those of us that are over 60.
These ops of connecting a vpn to a laptop are diffiicult. More than that it is frustrating as the error messages read like a doctors signature on your.
Prescription.
Notwithstanding the lack of sympathy you have for my digital hardships and rough first days here in Jakarta; I commend you for being attentiveOn this.
Board and being willing to help out another member.
You critisized me so turnabout is fairplay. I read back into late 2024 when you had firstarrived to lokisari. In fact you reported a chemical smell in the hallways.
At sparks hotel that turned me away from there. I noticed back then that you were asking a ton of questions back then and June fly hooked you up with mamasans / girls contact info in lokasari.
You were at the whim, at the mercy, of these members acceptiny private messages. So that being said, why in the hell don't you accept private messages?. Can you show the love, and share mamasan / girl contact info to me thru a private message? The same love that was shown to you when you were green in lokisari?
Went there around 4 pm. Only about 20 girls present. I was told it usually fills up between 7 and 8.
I picked the most beautiful one, a stunning 23 yo with great skin, slim body and a giant rack. Definitely a 9 in my book. There is no way you find a girl like that in classic.
I felt like she took good care of me, but she insisted on CBJ. She did everything very slowly which I enjoy a lot. But At the end, we ran out of time. The lights in the room started to flash indicating end of time, while we were still fucking. Managed to come, but didn't like the pressure at the end.
I only had the free welcome drink and paid 1,8 juta.
I feel this price would be very much justified if BBBJ was included, for the quality of the girls and the rooms.
Next time I'll go later in the evening, ask for BBBJ before committing and I'll watch the time.
Actually, for 1,8 juta you can chat up to 30 minutes with the girl in the bar area, then you go straight to the room and you have one shot. For 3,4 juta you have 3 hours including the spa area and 2 shots.
Apparently, there are not many Indonesian clients here. I was told Most are from Singapore and China.
When I was done eating and I asked the waitress "berapa" trying to ask how much I owed, the dude told me that he was going to pay it and then he thanked me for coming to his country and welcomed me and said he hoped I enjoyed my stay and would come back again. I also saw a Buddhist temple there on the same street as the small fire station.
-Gabacho.I will be always amazed by the kindness of Indonesian people. And when you go in Provinces they are even more kindly.
Here in Pangandaran, Pantai Hiu, you have a park close, I have been taken in photo 2 times in just 30 minutes, last time I was lost, a guy took me on this motorbike to the right destination.
When I smile to people, everyone smile back in return, included all the girls. If I do that in my country people would think I am retarded.
In fact I need the provinces for the kindness of people, nature, and surfing, but the big problem, they is no so much working girls (except Bali, but it's not the same).
In Jakarta, you have the girls, but you can't stay decently one month fucking girls and do nothing else. And after one week, your body will say no.
I will make a report of my first week in Jakarta later, which was completely crazy since I can now pay with my credit card without any fees, and with your bank account directly link to Emporium, Travel and Classic, there is no more limitations, except maybe your body.
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