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Glad you found some success, mate! I've noticed that too, a lot of girls working on MiChat without a mamasan or pimp tend to be nervous and quiet, like they're brand new to the game. Probably true. For me, that's perfect.
I'm back in Jakarta for an extended tour of duty, starting today. Will report as it happens.Hi GG, Yes, I had my share of fun. Thanks.
I had few responses from the Agent via MiChat but I did not explore that route. In one instance, the agent even asked me to pay upfront since am availing their services for the first time. I politely moved on (sighting the pre-paid scams). The location where you stay also play a key role in getting more number of ladies trying to contact you on MiChat.
Happy Punting.
Cheers.
Brothers,
Q. How do I find these spas and massage joints?
A: Instagram, local friends, and Telegram groups.
Q. How do I find Instagram channels and Telegram groups?
A: Once you add one Instagram channel, you usually receive numerous similar channel recommendations, and you simply browse through them. Once you click on any particular channel, you will see hyperlinks to Telegram and WhatsApp contacts. Proceed with caution as some of them may lead to suspicious advertisements..Thanks for your valuable inputs, Zippos. It will help some of the hobbyists in the Jakarta thread!
Been telling you guys not to do this for literally months. Video chat or no deal. Not complicated at all, even for them to understand.Agree, even with girls on Badoo, I had test video call using the app. I did not exchange the whatsapp digits with most of them. Those with Telegrams, shared the TG ID. Couple of girls even asked me to show my room view on the video call confirming I was put up at a hotel.
Cheers.
Kota Indah: highly recommended. Better setup, sharper birds, and the vibe's just a bit looser all around. Laras Ayu and Sari Ayuu both worth a visit. Girls are more open-minded, proper fun and I found them to be more submissive. The lighting there in aforementioned places is brighter and better than classic to inspect your goods prior taking delivery. Going rates:
400 K IDR / HR.
800 K /3 hrs hotel delivery.
2 M overnight (if you're feeling sentimental and solvent).
Just a heads-up: the in-house rooms are about the size of a GP's exam bed. Lie down and you'll half-expect a blood pressure cuff and a prostate check. So go for the 3-hour hotel delivery or, better yet, rent one of their so-called "karaoke" rooms solid living room, private bedroom, and yes, an actual f*cking bed. Revolutionary!!
Orchardz: real hit or miss. Bit like pulling from a lucky dip blindfolded. some of the girls are absolute scorcher material. Insta is riddled with them but the filters and edits are so aggressive you'the think they're trying to catfish the Pope. Tread with caution, carry low expectations, and you might just be pleasantly surprised.
Sun City is for men with small cocks and fat wallets. The hotter the girl, the colder the welcome if you don't fit that particular brief.
Club 36 avoid unless your life's missing shady meds, off-tune nerve wrecking break bit karaoke, and the odd conversation with someone definitely on their third identity.
Kota Indah sounds interesting and will give it a try next time. May check out Orchardz but other two not sure. Thanks for the details, EA.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-03-25, 18:00
Agree, even with girls on Badoo, I had test video call using the app. I did not exchange the whatsapp digits with most of them. Those with Telegrams, shared the TG ID. Couple of girls even asked me to show my room view on the video call confirming I was put up at a hotel.
Cheers.Just makes sense, right?
I just had a girl I'd been with before have her Whatsapp account taken over by a mamasan or a pimp, apparently. Was planning to meet her again soon, then suddenly she started talking way out of character, like a desperate mamasan. Super eager, full of crap and highly irritating. It was so obvious I'm not going to even bother with that account anymore. Shame. She was really hot with a great attitude.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-03-25, 18:03
Hi GG, Yes, I had my share of fun. Thanks.
I had few responses from the Agent via MiChat but I did not explore that route. In one instance, the agent even asked me to pay upfront since am availing their services for the first time. I politely moved on (sighting the pre-paid scams). The location where you stay also play a key role in getting more number of ladies trying to contact you on MiChat.
Happy Punting.
Cheers.Coolio. And yes, location no doubt makes a big difference in the kind of women who show up on 'who's nearby. ' I neglected to mention that previously. I'm back in Mangga Besar though and the 'nearby' ones are mostly to my liking again. .
Kudos to you for not doing the payment upfront. ALWAYS a 100% scam.
Plant Smoke
08-04-25, 02:15
Ever been to Classic terminal 3, hard-looked for some time, sat down and then all of a sudden an Asian is hand in hand with a hottie.
Heading to the rooms?
Leaving you muttering to yourself, "Where the hell did she come from"?
You thought you canvassed the room well. But apparently not well enough.
There seems to be some activity in that dark corner beyond the pool tables; like a secret room in the dark.
Are they stashing girls back there? Makes me wonder.
NoGermaphobe
08-04-25, 21:42
There is a dressing room / locker area between the cashier and men's lavatory. It's the door immediately to the right of the cashier booth.
On the way to the downstairs fuck rooms, there is another dressing room about half way down the hallway on the left before you get the stairwell.
Finally, there is a women's lavatory by the pool tables in the back. Ladies not on the couch or not already fucking could be in any of those three areas as well.
This is where being friendly with a mamasan or two can be helpful as they can pull a lady not on the couch from the dressing rooms for you. I've had several mamasans recognize me and pull a new arrival from the dressing room.
Also, the lady could have been drinking/hanging out at a table with the customer for some amount of time, which could have gone unnoticed.
Ever been to Classic terminal 3, hard-looked for some time, sat down and then all of a sudden an Asian is hand in hand with a hottie.
Heading to the rooms?
Leaving you muttering to yourself, "Where the hell did she come from"?
You thought you canvassed the room well. But apparently not well enough.
There seems to be some activity in that dark corner beyond the pool tables; like a secret room in the dark.
Are they stashing girls back there? Makes me wonder.
LetMeIn6969
08-05-25, 21:59
My last trip, I tried Badoo and met a civi. Here are the Pros and Cons from my perspective:
Pros:
1. Truly GFE, she let me did everything I ever dreamed of even ATM (not the cash dispensing kind =)).
2. She can communicate in English.
3. She's like my local tour guide, we went to Bali and it was great going and fucking around whenever I feel like it.
Cons:
1. Only one pussy for the entire trip.
2. It's more expensive, I'm now paying for her college tuition.
3. I'm catching feeling when I know I shouldn't.
This is my personal experience venturing into the civi world. If you don't have a responsibility back home or a heart, I wouldn't recommend it due to feelings and such. My next trip, I think I'll stick to P4P.
My last trip, I tried Badoo and met a civi. Here are the Pros and Cons from my perspective:
Pros:
1. Truly GFE, she let me did everything I ever dreamed of even ATM (not the cash dispensing kind =)).
2. She can communicate in English.
3. She's like my local tour guide, we went to Bali and it was great going and fucking around whenever I feel like it.
Cons:
1. Only one pussy for the entire trip.
2. It's more expensive, I'm now paying for her college tuition.
3. I'm catching feeling when I know I shouldn't.
This is my personal experience venturing into the civi world. If you don't have a responsibility back home or a heart, I wouldn't recommend it due to feelings and such. My next trip, I think I'll stick to P4P.
I think you mean "If you do have responsibility ... "
Sounds like you've gotten suckered into something you don't want, and perhaps you are not used to things like this yet. With some experience, it is fairly easily manageable, and no need to stick to only p4p if you have other options too (not all of us do, at least as far as banging the type of girls we want to bang, so enjoy it while you can).
Number one rule IMO is to be clear about things. If I sense anyone is starting to like me more than is good for them, I remind them that I'm just a short-term tourist, leaving soon. I don't enjoy clingy/low confidence girls, or girls who don't have many other options, so reminding the girl of me being just a short-term tourist soon leaving seems to quickly reset things. They usually become a bit cold after that, but it's better for them.
Rule number two is to not meet too often. Twice a week is fine, though obviously you have to make exceptions if it's someone you want to travel with for some days. More than that and things more easily become weird. If they want to meet again e.g., the next day, I will say I'm busy, even if I'm not and I myself would maybe also have liked to meet them (takes care of my feelings also).
YMMV, but those two rules keep things pretty good both for them and me, and lets me enjoy a lot of things that I don't want to do with p4p girls (cinema, walk in the park, going to local non-tourist places/restaurants, sleeping over, maybe even travel somewhere, etc.).
Paying for anything, except things I've invited her too, or joined her in doing, doesn't even come up.
Plant Smoke
08-06-25, 04:08
I'm trying to figure out what zippos was talking about? There were no intros / lead-ins to his private message post.
One of the rare mistakes I've ever seen zippos make.
What is he talkin about? 30-minute sessions. Heading to the next massage? Popping off 7 drinks?
Some sort of a shopping mall, eh?
Plant Smoke
08-06-25, 09:31
Its my experience hotties are never on the sofa. They are always on the move. More likely they are in the dressing room catching their breath, hiding out. They understand they are beautiful fish.
More importantly they understand on the other side of that locker-room door there are sharks.
It was this past Sunday night. I saw her with an asian client. I don't remember how I got her name, that night, but I got it. I managed to find a mamasan that claimed it was one of her girls.
I told her I wanted to book her for the next night, Monday night. It was a very informal booking by me with no exchange of whattsapp numbers.
I'm going to have to shoot this off as part 1. Classic term 3. And finish part 2 later.
Irish Mongrel
08-06-25, 09:39
My last trip, I tried Badoo and met a civi. Here are the Pros and Cons from my perspective:
2. It's more expensive, I'm now paying for her college tuition.
P4P.You got yourself a very horny college student. I had one of those, who has now moved on to being a horny married woman, not married to me, but we still have the odd fling! You won't be the only one sponsoring her. Mine tried all sorts of excuses to get money out of me, only time I sent her a few dollars was during COVID when I knew things were hard. But her soon to be husband was sending her shit loads of cash cause suddenly she was buying a house, a new car etc. Etc. Etc. Don't be that sucker.
GuyReynolds
08-07-25, 09:21
Was planning to spend one week in Jakarta, but ended up doing two. After reading over this forum and having most of my questions answered, I decided to venture out a bit and get some more data on a few things. I'm still pretty new to all this, so made some mistakes and learned some lessons along the way. The entire first week, I strictly stayed with the online girls and deliveries while I wasn't out doing some touristy things. The entire second week was only going to hotels that everyone mentions here. I'm in complete agreement that Classic should get its own thread, as it's mentioned so much. This is just my two cents and personal experience, use it to gauge how yours might be.
I kept two hotel rooms, one for my regular day to day and the other for naughty stuff. The nice hotel was around Prime Asia hotel where I kept all of my things and money, my naughty one was near Travel Hotel where I ONLY kept bottles of water, snacks, and some condoms. I came to find out that this was a good idea later, and I'm sure most here know why. I'll mention why later in my report.
My specs: Very early 30's, 5' 9" (approx. 176 cm), workout (approx. 17% body fat), American, mixed white/black/hispanic.
Dating apps:
Tinder / Bumble / Badoo - Only met regular girls for some nice dates on all three platforms. Girls were anywhere from 20 41. All from no kids up to 3 kids, dated about 1 girl per day but never did any repeat dates. Even had one feminist (it was strictly stated in her bio along with other women's empowerment verbiage), which surprised me to see that here. My goal was to see how civvies are here, and just to check out the dating environment. Got 5+ matches a day on all platforms, women were all pleasant and our dates end at a caf or bar. I'the pay the dinner and the girls would usually pay for the caf/ bar drinks. Be aware that many of these girls have curfews, unless they live alone. A big thing in Indonesia is that cheating occurs a lot, both men and women, so one common thing every girl mentioned is that they don't want to be with a man who cheats and are trying to avoid that by dating a foreigner.
Tantan - lots of freelancers and pimps (referred to as 'bos' Pretty straight forward, but always do a video call on WhatsApp. Most of the photos are obviously filtered, but can find the occasional diamond. Once you find a good one, ask her for pics and contact info of her friends who do the same thing. Obviously, never send money online, always a scam. Here's where it helps to have more than one hotel room, things were going so well getting girls to my room that I got lazy and stopped doing my usual checks. One of the girls looked nothing at all like her pic (I didn't know I was talking to her bos or agency), asked her to leave, she did not argue or cause drama. Her bos messaged me, insulting me and telling me I was going to 'get it', sent pics and videos of guns and police stating they were going to come get me. I bolted and stayed away from that room for a couple of days, blocked that guy's number and another number he tried calling me from. Now I could no longer use that WhatsApp phone number for setting stuff up, as I think there's a community of these men who share info and put phone numbers in some repository to check and see if 'we' are legit or have been known to cause issues.
Overall, had a good experience with civvies, did not hook up with any of them nor was that my intention since I was just feeling things out. Also, didn't want to pursue a second date with any of them as I didn't want to lead them on or get attached. No civvies in Tantan based on my use of the platform.
Online:
Massage Republic - Tried a few girls from here, cost is not worth it and one of them was really an agency or bos. I'the avoid altogether, there's way too many girls available throughout the city.
Platforms:
MiChat - Great platform. Was able to set the app up once I got an Indonesian number at the airport. Sourced 90% of my online girls here, most were freelancers and very very few were bos or agency. Some girls asked me to meet them at their hotel rooms, was a bit reluctant since it could be a setup but every time I went, nothing bad happened and the girl looked about 90% like her pics. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be careful or weary, if your instincts tell you otherwise then just avoid.
X - There's a lot of girls who advertise on X. These usually ask you to pay online via money transfer, but based on research and one girl, this is actually how many Indos actually source girls thru this platform. Since these men have Indo bank accounts and the local money transfer app. Apparently, you can transfer money to someone thru a convenience store if you're a foreigner. I met one of the X girls, spoke to her via TG and she was ok with me paying cash for meeting at her hotel. She explained that you can also transfer money to these girls at a convenience store via one of their systems, for those bules (foreigners) that obviously aren't normally able to do this. Search #jakpus #jaksel #expojajkarta #boJakarta #availjakarta, there's several more hashtags but easy to find once you use one of these.
WeChat - Tried a couple other girls here. Wasn't too bad either. Had no negative experiences.
Paid anywhere from 400 k 600 k for all interactions, tips all based on performance and what the initial negotiated price was. But never more than 600 k overall altogether.
Lokasari:
I only went here late at night. I'll have to try during the day on my next trip of exploration. Met a bos name Andi, who sourced girls to me. Every time I asked him for one girl, he'the bring at least two that I could choose from. Be careful though, as some of these girls look underage, I had to ask them and wanted to see some ID to verify. Also, they were too keen on doing everything raw which I strongly objected to. Don't bother with threesomes, as they'll be lackluster. I think someone else already spoke about this in the board, but it tells you the mindset here of some people here in Jakarta (won't say all). But here's my story, asked for one girl and he brings me two and offers a threesome, I agree, they offer no condom, I disagree and they're ok with it. I ask them if they're bi or will kiss each other (I want a true threesome experience which continues to elude me), they say yes but that all changes once on the bed. I want to change between girls with my condom on, but they want me to change condoms before I enter any of them. Then they state that if I go raw then I can do them both no problem. I actually stopped to explain to them how it wouldn't be any different to change condoms if I go raw, took a while to convince them. After that brief physics lesson, I just wanted to finish and be on my way. Rest of the girls he brought me were ok, got the job done. Usual cost is about 400 k, depending on negotiation skills.
Kotah Inda:
I'm surprised this place doesn't get mentioned more on here. There's so many clubs and bars with loads of beautiful women of all shapes and sizes. I'the say I was the only non-Asian in that area, I know this because I checked out every bar there. I went in, did a full walk-thru then sat down and stayed for the duration of exactly one beer before repeating the same thing at the next place. The only drawbacks I'the say was that my eyes burned a lot from all the smoke (I don't smoke at all), so this made it uncomfortable till my eyes stopped stinging. These places need a lot of ventilation. Only took one girl in that area, it was at Starmoon, think the price was about 400 k. I should mention that at no point did I feel like I was in danger or that anything bad was going to happen to me while I was in this area.
Clubs / Bars:
H Club - Interesting, more for groups and the usual table places that many high end Asian clubs tend to have. Usually trance, techno, EDM.
Zoo - Not too far away, plays mostly hip hop music. Good vibe and enjoyed the place. There were a couple clubs right next to it, I don't remember the names but they were ok.
CJ's - So many girls here. Very pretty and young, all freelancers. Bar was actually nice and bartenders were very friendly. Cost is 1 mil 2 mil, depending on your negotiation skills and how late in the night it is. Only took 1 girl from here for 1. 5 mil, she was ok but I should've said no and gotten a far better girl. Alcohol makes it hard to think with the big head LOL.
Went to a few other clubs, but was too drunk to remember their names. There was even one that was nearly pitch black (named Kode, I think). Didn't hook up with any civvies or picked up any girls at the clubs except for CJs. Was just there to drink, explore, and enjoy the vibe.
Hotels:
Travel - Interesting story with this one. I was going to my 'extra' hotel room from a tourist outing, my cab driver spoke perfect English and had a great conversation all the way to my hotel. He saw that travel was near my hotel and asked me if I wanted to go grab a beer with him at Travel since I had never been there before. We then walked to Travel and started drinking while we talked, I got one girl and he got two LOL. I then saw some other girls coming out for shift change, and they were far better looking than the girl I allowed to sit with me (the mama just brought her over). I just bit the bullet and went with her to the room, she was average but should've said no when I saw better. The Taxi driver took those two to the room, apparently he has a side business where he takes other Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) to these establishments, he's also married with kids which I then realized that cheating in Indonesia is a big thing.
1001 - Girls were gorgeous. The non-indo girls looked terrible, definitely not worth the cost. I think those women are just there for the novelty of trying something else, the Indo girls looked leagues better. Some Asian guy took 4 girls with him, I got a quick glimpse at them but one of them was gorgeous, most def a 9 or 10.I hope he had a great time with all of them. I took one girl here and had a pretty good time, she was accommodating but didn't feel much energy between us.
Emporium - Girls were also very pretty, there are two tiers of girls here. In my personal and humble opinion, the lowered tiered girls looked prettier to me. They had stronger Asian features that I find attractive, as well as not looking as 'plastic' or 'enhanced'. More of the girl next door or cute grounded girl. With that being said, I went with the higher tiered girl LOL because that lineup was brought to me first.
Classic - It was said by someone else on this forum. The higher end places are for when you want a nice fancy steak dinner or food of choice, but this place is that burger or pizza joint that always delivers and never fails you that you've been going to for years since high school so you just build up a habit. I spent at least one or two sessions here every day my second week in Jakarta. Very rarely did I have a bad session. I'll say to avoid the club on the first floor, too much smoke and two girls came over and put my hand on their breasts to feel them up. I bought them each a shot, but the bartender snuck some empty shot glasses while I was distracted. When I saw this, I immediately asked for my bill and saw it was padded. Now I could easily make a scene and get it off my bill, but it was just an extra $10 and I'm a bule. So I just paid and went to the 3rd floor. Others have said to avoid this 1st floor club, but I wanted to get a glimpse to see what was in there. Between the 3rd and 5th floor, I think the girls on the 5th are far better. Every mediocre or subpar experience I had at classic was on the 3rd floor, and all my good experiences were on the 5th floor. Didn't try the threesome option, as I've yet to come across some girls that would really be into it. Also, I'd always come here around midnight or 1 am, so next time I'll go earlier to see the better spread of girls.
The hotels were great and I'll try some other spots on my next trip. I noticed that the first girl the mamas will bring you are usually not the most appealing. I learned after trial and error to always say no to the first single one, unless they bring you a few to choose from and one of them looks good to you. Otherwise, I'the just tell them what I wanted and would say no until I got a good one. Also, some girls would tell me their Javanese, Sundanese, or half. I started to notice a difference in how each of these types looked, but was interesting that they went out of their way to let me know themselves, as if I knew what they were talking about or cared about it. Maybe it's a big deal to other customers.
Overall:
I'd say many people are missing out on Jakarta, as a mongering destination. Also, at no point did I feel any racism or discrimination. At first I did have a hard time finding the girls here attractive, as many of them had square jawlines similar to men while men had more pointed jawlines. It took some more looking around and patience to finally start finding girls with softer and pointed jaw lines that looked more feminine. I was informed by locals that there are some red light areas where the locals tend to go for cheaper mongering west of Jakarta, it's a well known spot many men from the city go. On my next trip here I plan to hit up the spots around PIK and PIK2, especially the bars / clubs, not sure if any of the veterans here can speak more on these areas. Sorry for the long post, just remember to wrap up your eggplant and adjust whatever mongering system you have to the area. Thanks to everyone who DM'the me and answered all my questions from before.
Plant Smoke
08-07-25, 10:14
So I get to classic last Monday at 5. A reasonable time, a little early, but ideal if you want a fresh pussy. I have become paranoid.
Of being a second customer.
So I see the mamasan that claimed the girl I wanted was hers on Sunday night. Sara was her name. But what transpired for the next 30-45 minutes.
Was a game of charades and diversion. They brought me several girls that claimed the same name. I stood my ground adamant about.
The girl I wanted. A girl I knew only by name, had forgotten what she looked like, only knew she was a hottie 8-9. I did not even know what sofa she sat?
(Although my experience is that hotties are always on the move; so should you be on the move; I was on the move Sunday night when I found her).
Then I somehow got passed off to another mamasan and I was now sitting at a table that was with the sofas to the right, inner as you enter.
She was into the game of diversion as well. I think I endured a couple of lineups with her. She kept telling me to wait, but would not tell me why?
(Certainly plausible that a hottie is given slack, allowed to arrive late) But I was sort of seeing how this was going nowhere or thought it was not.
I needed a beer and beer ladies here never look up for a hand in the air. What you do is you go to the source, the bar. But before I left I texted this.
Last mamasan "I think you are hiding ladies from me".
Afterr grabbing the beer I come back to a table near the cashier cage, air conditioner, locker room. This is my favorite location for a table.
So this mamasan I texted to must have been tracking me, that my text stung her a bit; which was my intention. It paid off in spades as she shows up.
With the hottie. I immediately confirmed that it was her I asked her name the previous night. Part two.
Plant Smoke
08-07-25, 10:59
My apologies I'm having problems with the internet. So as we are "interviewing" I come to realize I am talking to countess / el vira.
She had these canines that ended in points (like a vampire). And they were abnormally long and at the same time sexy as all hell.
At this point I had a conversation piece I always try to find. After all, you make therm laugh, they have invited you through their front door.
But I had to be tactful. I had to be funny and loving. Not insulting or teasing. I guess, I don't know, that she was a little bit self conscious about it.
So I start out with, "I like your teeth, you arent going to hurt me in the room are you"? So she now knows I want her. Second statement was way more effective.
"So you sleep during the day and are afraid of the sun"?
We both erupted in laughter.
I thought things at this point were going well, or so I thought.
But on the way to the room she was a leader, not a follower. There was no hand-holding; in fact I had to pick up my hop just to stay with her.
Inm the room I saw her index finger invert towards her mouth as if going for the, I have a canker sore routine (a famous one, the smart ones will take pictures.
Of canker sores off the internet, to get outy of DFK).
She relented though, which surprised me. An abrupt turn she took into a GFE.
The cherry on the GFE was she started madura-ing me.
It was incredible; whether it was on purpose, spasms, is inmaterial. It was the'Heaven. Damn Heaven.
It has occured to me to "train" girls to tense up their vagina when I raise my fist in the air, timed with my outstroke.
A like and dislike added in the last 24 hours.
Like: I'm now into everything vampire.
Dislike: skirts with frills; high percentage of these girls have fat butts.
So this girl is the hottest I've seen in the last 5 days, she was their star pupil, and the mamasans acted like it.
Plant Smoke
08-07-25, 17:52
Bummer of a night subtracts from hell of a night (the night of the vampire),. I decide I want to spend some money. I go to 1001. At 9:00 pm.
Wrong time. First sign of high class luxery was a 100,000 price tag on else double cigarettes. I was lost, first time here. I'm still lost.
There was a lounge on first floor. Was this karaoke? Was there a line up available here? Anybody score a girl here, skipped the karaoke, and went for a fuck?
There were girls here sitting in the lounge, first floor. I have no idea what the protocol is? In fact the second floor of 1001 is also labeled karaoke in their elevator.
Whatever.
On to the third floor. I kept looking outside later for a tour bus. Because at the spa third floor hella amount of Asians were arriving. I had to wait in line at the spa counter.
Hit with a 300,000 facilities charge / cover charge I started thinkin about the bail-out plan. Why go in? The dudes already inside along with the hella dudes I witnessed are going to take all the.
Hot lookin chicks. The pussies are also worn out. It was at this time I went into my interrogation mode. What time do the ladies arrive to work?
5 pm. Thanks I'll come back tomorrow.
I had some electronic work done at LTC Glodok. Every return trip I would go by club 36. I always wondered hmm "I wonder what is going on over there?
Well at 10 pm tonight I found out. I sat in the lounge for close to an hour before I noticed ladies sitting on high-backboard sofas toward the back of the lounge.
Turns out these ladies are 2. 2 juta just to sit and talk. Sit and talk? WTF. 10 million to fuck. And these ladies ID pay to feed my dog. Or conversely pay the dog to eat the lady.
Additionally, Segway, talking about Grogol, New Medika. I once, months ago was pals with a Taiwanese dude. I told him that I had heard good things about.
New Medika, but had never been myself. He goes there 8 ish and reports to me there was no ladies here. I went a few weeks later and noticed that if you don't walk thru the.
Lounge towards the very back you will not see the ladies. Never on this forum anywhere have I read a warning about New Medika, that the ladies are in the back!
New Medika has dancers on the second floor at 9 o'clock, but I've never been.
...
The cherry on the GFE was she started madura-ing me.
It was incredible; whether it was on purpose, spasms, is inmaterial. It was the'Heaven. Damn Heaven.
It has occured to me to "train" girls to tense up their vagina when I raise my fist in the air, timed with my outstroke.
....The now defunct Bintang Mewar (Lokasari Plaza) was famous for having girls doing the clenching vagina thing. In Bintang Mewar they were MILFs but I remember a much younger girl doing it to me at another place also around Lokasari Plaza. It had to be experienced to be believed. The sheer strenght of the clencing! Those girls could clasp their pussy like their pussy was a hand. You sometimes had to tell them to stop as it became uncomfortable. Girls with that talent may have become rare nowadays. Still, why not ask the mamasans in Classic or Kota Intah? Though I think if those mamasans knew of such a girl, we would know too by now.
Nuttin Serious
08-07-25, 23:01
Was planning to spend one week in Jakarta, but ended up doing two.Great report! Well done for all the detail.
Medellin65
08-08-25, 14:49
I have a question. I follow the Classic account on Instagram, and I see two Classics: Bunker Classic and Classic. Are they both the same thing, or does Bunker refer to the first floor and not the third?
LoveItHere69
08-08-25, 19:12
I post facts. I went there Saturday at 8:00 pm. I know a ton of stuff and have posted about most. I just do not do massage BS or the expensive places so never comment about those.
Additionally, Segway, talking about Grogol, New Medika. I once, months ago was pals with a Taiwanese dude. I told him that I had heard good things about.
New Medika, but had never been myself. He goes there 8 ish and reports to me there was no ladies here. I went a few weeks later and noticed that if you don't walk thru the.
Lounge towards the very back you will not see the ladies. Never on this forum anywhere have I read a warning about New Medika, that the ladies are in the back!
New Medika has dancers on the second floor at 9 o'clock, but I've never been.
New Medika 400 k 35 girls.
Next street over closer to the hospital. Two entrances. One entrance across from Indramaret. The second on the back side which has the girls. It was two rooms connected with a hallway. Mamasan approaches me and I tell her what I want. She shows me the 2 girls closest to us. They were ok. I might have taken one but I said no because I am pissed off on how they just grab the first girl rather than what I asked for. She then yells out I want thin with big boobs which of course makes them shy. I walk away and look down the rows of girls. I see 2 with big boobs. Not sure if skinny or not. They are hiding form me. I make eye contact but they are shy now from the big mouth mamasan or just not interested. Wonderful damn start. I walk into the far room and sit down for 15 minutes to watch a few girls walk by. They show no interest and no mamasans come to talk to me so I leave.
LoveItHere69
08-08-25, 19:14
I have a question. I follow the Classic account on Instagram, and I see two Classics: Bunker Classic and Classic. Are they both the same thing, or does Bunker refer to the first floor and not the third?Been posted a million times. Do not go to the ground floor club. Everywhere else is good.
NoGermaphobe
08-09-25, 02:29
There are several clubs and one spa located inside the Classic Hotel building.
Classic Bunker
This is on the ground floor. (or 1st floor for the Yankees). It is immediately to the right as you enter Classic Hotel from the street through the glass sliding doors. You will walk by it from the outside on the right as soon as you go up the 2 or 3 steps onto the red tile from the brick parking area. You will see glass windows, but they are always blacked out with black pull down shades. You will also see the back of the couches against the windows from the outside. The sign in front of Bunker will say "Classic Club" and it is a trophy like logo with a globe on the top with the words "Classic Club. " But everyone calls it Bunker. Prices are 410 K and 600 K. There are less pushy mamasans here. Number of ladies is smaller. The main area for ladies is in the far back (completely opposite from the stage and the runway by the stage) and there are several rows of theater style couches with a slight elevation. There is also a row of couches along the wall, behind the bar to the left if you immediately walk in and head to the theater couches in the back. In days gone by in past years, there were another set of ladies on those couches. But I haven't seen ladies sit on those couches in a while. Bunker doesn't open till 6. And it really doesn't get going until at least 8 or 9.
Classic Terminal 2
This is where everyone in this thread mostly goes and posts about. It is on the second floor (3rd for the Yanks) and is also referred to as Classic 2 or Terminal 2, or T2 . Price is 365 K for 1, 500 K for 2. It has the most ladies and the widest selection and pushy mamasans. Not sure of the exact opening time. I think either 1 or 3. I've never been before 3.
Classic Terminal 5
This is on the fifth floor. Interestingly, no one ever quotes a different floor for this establishment. It's always the 5th floor. It has two sections of stadium style couches of 4-5 rows. One is immediately to the left as you enter and then there is another set of couches on the far side of the club past the stage on your left. Terminal 5 took the longest to re-open after Covid and it only re-opened around this time last year. Same basic price and setup as T2. However. T5, like Bunker, doesn't open till 6.
There is also a spa in the basement, but I never go there.
I took this picture of the all the various establishments available in Classic Hotel the last time I was in town. (Although thinking about this some more, I think someone else may have posted a similar image previously as well. But I am sure it is buried back several hundred pages by now.) It is posted by the elevators in the back to get to T5.
It is unfortunate there is not a way to pin this image to the top of the thread.
I have a question. I follow the Classic account on Instagram, and I see two Classics: Bunker Classic and Classic. Are they both the same thing, or does Bunker refer to the first floor and not the third?
Been posted a million times. Do not go to the ground floor club. Everywhere else is good.With due respect, beg to differ with this suggestion, as I personally have had nice time with a young pretty gal at the ground floor club. I also noticed that mamasans are reasonably less aggressive there. Yes it is true that prices are higher than T2 however rooms are nicely decorated and cleaner. My two cents.
Classic is one of the best places for anyone to go and have some nice time in Jakarta. I prefer Classic over The Travel. I am sure there are many who might like or prefer Travel over Classic. To each their own. Try different venues and options available. One shall find suitable joints that meets their individual requirements. Happy punting.
Cheers.
Di.
PartyAnimal
08-09-25, 10:13
Any guide on how to get civvies for fun? Tried okcupid and tinder but most of the girls are looking for marriage. I'm hoping love with civvies will be more satisfying vs pro one.
Asian Rain
08-09-25, 10:24
This is where being friendly with a mamasan or two can be helpful as they can pull a lady not on the couch from the dressing rooms for you. I've had several mamasans recognize me and pull a new arrival from the dressing room.Essential advice whether in Classic, Travel, Lokasari, etc. In Jakarta, mamasans can not only unlock access to hidden talent, they can be critical to curating talent to your preferences.
I have observed a number of posts where punters flex about how they will go to the payment counter at Classic to ensure they can snatch up the IDR35 k (yes, 2 fucking Euro) change so that mami gets nothing extra from the ticket. Of course that's up to the punter to be as pennywise as they want to be, but IMHO it should then be no surprise that they always get the lineup of couch girls. Mami will keep her best stock in reserve for punters that matter. Unless you bother to cultivate a relationship, mami will usually just do the minimum perfunctory lineup routine and point the laser until you pick whatever. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
GuyReynolds
08-09-25, 13:44
Any guide on how to get civvies for fun? Tried okcupid and tinder but most of the girls are looking for marriage. I'm hoping love with civvies will be more satisfying vs pro one.Add Bumble and Badoo to your toolkit. Don't know about OkCupid, but Tinder / Bumble / Badoo should get you enough girls on a daily basis for you to sift thru and figure out who's DTF and who isn't. Don't use Tantan! Yes, unfortunately most of the girls on these apps are looking for something serious or at least wanting to know you're going to be there a while before they just give it up. With this being said, the amount of girls that would be willing to do a ONS or that you can work towards that with will be limited. Find out if they have a curfew, live with family, or live alone, as these should help you decide who to take out on a date. Don't know what timeline you're working with, but unfortunately this isn't the Philippines where girls will straight up tell you they want your meat or you can easily invite back to your place to watch movies on your Ipad LOL. Also, if she has a job then that leaves limited time for you to charm her into your bed. Many of these girls don't want to seem like sluts when they're actually up for it. Try and stick with the girls that live alone or don't have a curfew, it'll give you more time to make something happen with her that night. I don't know your specs or time limit, but unless you go to the mongering spots or use Seeking, then your other bets are going to the Clubs. Try Club Zoo, lots of cuties there where you might be able to make something happen, but be careful of the bule hunters (freelancers). Apparently those girls like to frequent bars / clubs foreigners go to to get customers. My 2 cents, good luck!
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. That's happened at least.
3 out of the last 5 time (in Classic T2 and T5). It kills the mood for me, and I walk out of the room, often after 15 minutes, having received neither a BJ, not sex.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?
LoveItHere69
08-09-25, 15:10
With due respect, beg to differ with this suggestion, as I personally have had nice time with a young pretty gal at the ground floor club. I also noticed that mamasans are reasonably less aggressive there. Yes it is true that prices are higher than T2 however rooms are nicely decorated and cleaner. My two cents.Yours is the first positive post about the ground floor in the 2 years I have been reading. Read all the posts in the last 2 years. Floor 3 and 5 are talked about ALL the time. The downstairs massage mentioned here and there. Ground floor is the least mentioned and has always been negative.
PartyAnimal
08-10-25, 01:10
Add Bumble and Badoo to your toolkit. Don't know about OkCupid, but Tinder / Bumble / Badoo should get you enough girls on a daily basis for you to sift thru and figure out who's DTF and who isn't. Don't use Tantan! Yes, unfortunately most of the girls on these apps are looking for something serious or at least wanting to know you're going to be there a while before they just give it up. With this being said, the amount of girls that would be willing to do a ONS or that you can work towards that with will be limited. Find out if they have a curfew, live with family, or live alone, as these should help you decide who to take out on a date. Don't know what timeline you're working with, but unfortunately this isn't the Philippines where girls will straight up tell you they want your meat or you can easily invite back to your place to watch movies on your Ipad LOL. Also, if she has a job then that leaves limited time for you to charm her into your bed. Many of these girls don't want to seem like sluts when they're actually up for it. Try and stick with the girls that live alone or don't have a curfew, it'll give you more time to make something happen with her that night. I don't know your specs or time limit, but unless you go to the mongering spots or use Seeking, then your other bets are going to the Clubs. Try Club Zoo, lots of cuties there where you might be able to make something happen, but be careful of the bule hunters (freelancers). Apparently those girls like to frequent bars / clubs foreigners go to to get customers. My 2 cents, good luck!Thanks. I'll add the apps to the list (damn combined those are expensive than the cost of mongering itself). I travel here once a month or atleast every 2 months. So even a long term sugar arrangement works as well. Looking for a non pro hence avoiding clubs else BATS used to be my place as I stayed in the hotel itself quite often.
, . Many of these girls but unless you go to the mongering spots or use Seeking, then your other bets are going to the Clubs. s, good luck!I didn't realise Seeking is active in Jakarta too. What is the scence like in JK for seeking girls? Any guidance on allowance?
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. That's happened at least.
3 out of the last 5 time (in Classic T2 and T5). It kills the mood for me, and I walk out of the room, often after 15 minutes, having received neither a BJ, not sex.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?I do the same and often doesn't even tell Mami. I'm more concerned about beating the Sildenafil iron while it's hot than about losing some money. I concentrate on sessioning another girl ASAP.
Asian Rain
08-10-25, 09:21
Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?I have now observed several posts where pre-pay venue (Classic, Travel, Kota Indah bars, etc) providers have either refused BBBJ, insisted on CBJ or refused any kind of fellatio outright. Unless your junk is showing obvoious signs of disease (that's on you if that's the case), there is absolutely no reason to tolerate such half-baked service, even if it is cheap.
Once you pay, the obligation to deal with a zonk session lies on your shoulders. Mami's role is done and dusted and there is no Complaints Department. So how to deal with the situation since there are obviously girls in these venues working with the wrong skills or mindset for thier industry? Several vets have advised that you should sit and talk (or translate) to "feel the vibe" of the girl to gauge her willingness to provide services before paying for the ticket. Whether that works consistently is debatable IMHO. My alternative advice has been to negotiate (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=3006334#post3006334) ahead for things that are important to you. Although my post deals with the controversial topic of BBFS, BJ is a vanilla enough service expectation to get on the table for any girl before making the committment. If a girl recoiled at my playful mention of her doing "ice cream", I would send her back to the couches posthaste and I would inform mami that I need a selection of girls who do BJ.
For after the fact complaints, I have seen some posts stating that there are managers working who will take you in the back for in-room sins like snapping pics of the girls. Maybe those same quality conscious managers would be open to hearing your story with sympathetic ears. Doubt much would come out of it though. Caveat emptor in pre-pay venues. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Plant Smoke
08-10-25, 10:23
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. That's happened at least.
3 out of the last 5 time (in Classic T2 and T5). It kills the mood for me, and I walk out of the room, often after 15 minutes, having received neither a BJ, not sex.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?I had a girl attempt to wear her clothes into the shower. Sari ayu. Kota indah its best to get what's app, and message mommie when you get home, of your dissappointment.
Otherwise you will make a scene and ALL the girls will know about it, will know you. I've had 3 out of 8 kota indah experiences turn sour. Luckily it is 24 $$. Kota indah buy two beers.
And take girl to sofa. My bad experiences kota indah, were mostly taking girls from their chairs to the room.
You absolutely have to risk destroying the mood, by having a proper interview, hopefully saying something funny. Her laughing, even at you, is priceless.
How do you weed out these girls? I don't know. How about asking / texting "Are there any rules in the bedroom I should know about?" I always say "I'm a really good kisser".
Establishing that she has a canker sore, fake mouth sore, this early at the table is immediate throwback.
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. What would you do in this situation?
I do the same and often doesn't even tell Mami.At the club: use the google translate to communicate with mamasan and provide my requirements. I also inform her that if the service is good, I would give tip her after the session.
Inside the room: After showering together and washing the johnny well with soap; Mouthwash is used to gargle. I don't encourage the further cleaning of junior with mouthwash smeared napkins before the act. I tell the gal it is already washed well with soap, so no condom BJ followed by covered action.
This has worked well for me in my visits to Classic and Travel. After the session, I always wait for the mamasan, share my feedback, thank her and give her a small tip.
Happy punting!
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. ?It has been written here before: some of these girls are unexperienced in a bad way. This is not Colombia where girls start to fuck around when they are 14. Some of those Indonesian girls might have had little and bad sex before they started to work in a club. This could explain why they are shy to give a blow job, why they arch in the wrong way during doggy or why they don't know how to move in cowgirl.
If it happens to you, Just move on to the next one.
Actually, there is no reason to complain explicitly. If you come back from the room after only a few minutes, everybody will know that you were not happy.
Thanks guys for the responses. I try and explain right at the start that if they give a good service then not only will I tip them well, but I'll see them every week. Both are true statements. But the girls sometimes don't know what a good service is. I agree with the point about these girls being inexperienced.
One girl on T5 I took last week. It was her first day, and I was her 1st client ever. She spoke fluent English (medical student), everything was great. She was very GFE with tons of kissing, hugging and she genuinely wanted to please. After 15 minutes of this, I asked for a BJ, and she said "I've never given a BJ. " I don't know if she was bullshitting me, or not. She told me she was not a virgin because she had had sex with her BF, but never done oral. I explained that if she wants to work in the sex industry, then a BJ is mandatory. As she spoke English, I was able to gently guide her and coax her into licking my dick for a minute or so. We had sex soon after, but it killed the vibe for me.
I've noticed that it's the new girls who are reluctant to give a BJ, and more prone to using the listerine on the dick. Even worse. I've had two cases where the girl dabs listerine on tissue paper at the start, opened the condom packet, and put the condom inside the tissue (so it gets soaked in Listerine whilst we do foreplay). WTF? As you can imagine both of these turned into poor sessions.
I'll avoid new girls actively now. In opposition to the mami's using it as a sales technique "New girl. New girl". And I'll talk about BJ at the interview stage.
It's not the lost money that's the issue here. It's the emotional damage done by a poor session. I find that after a bad run, I get more apprehensive taking an untried girl to the room. A little uncertainty and performance anxiety starts creeping in.
Another thing. I've rarely had a good BJ this year in Indo. In 2019, I wasn't doing P4 P at all, and banged 17 civvies here in about 6 weeks, and most sucked cock like porn-stars. I was highly impressed by their deep-throating, gagging, and face-fucking skills. Not sure what's happened, or maybe my own perception of a good BJ has changed since I've spent considerable time in Brazil (best cock-suckers in the world, IMO) and Colombia.
Asian Rain
08-10-25, 15:07
If it happens to you, Just move on to the next one.And by this advice, he should just move onto the next one and the next one, passively accepting poor service time after time, right? If I read correctly, 3 out of 5 girls wouldn't blowjob at all for Fudimaar, which would be a reasonable frustration for him. This does not count other posts from punters claiming there are girls who won't BJ or demand CBJ, so it seems to be a less than rare phenomenon at Classic and therefore worthy of a countermeasure. I guess "just move on" would be a good approach if Fudimaar is the type of punter that does not mind zonk after zonk, but he doesn't seem to be. IMHO if a particular service is important to a monger in these pre-pay venues, it is best negotiated in advance to avoid disappointment.
I see that nobody is disputing these no-BJ or CBJ sitiations happen in Classic. Rather I see confirmations. This is a long way from previous discussions where some were claiming that BBFS was "virtually guaranteed" with a tip at Classic. Quite the heaven to hell range of claims.
Agree that returning shortly from a session will let everyone know that things didn't go well. By happily accepting that without any consequence, you also let everyone know that you are happy to accept zonk service. But everybody is free to take whatever approach best works for them. Sharing an example of the approach that works best for me, a lovely Kota talent from a few days ago. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Expat American
08-10-25, 17:18
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. That's happened at least.
3 out of the last 5 time (in Classic T2 and T5). It kills the mood for me, and I walk out of the room, often after 15 minutes, having received neither a BJ, not sex.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?The way you deal with poor service, or in general get what you want in the room is to be polite but firm and insist on the way you want things. This does not extend to BBFS which is a special service and you can't compel a girl to provide if she doesn't want to. Last week I took a girl to the room in Classic. She started by acting rushed, wanted me to lay back and let her follow her script and didn't want to kiss etc. I calmly stopped her right there and explained that this was NOT how the session was going to go. I told her what I wanted, how I wanted it and it was her job to basically do what I told her. I of course offered to tip her later if she did well. This is not ideal, I prefer natural chemistry. But in the absence of that, this approach allows me to salvage the session. In this case it turned into a halfway decent BBFS session.
But in general Classic is far to commercial and mass market now and I mostly avoid it. I just ended up there because Emporium pool was closed and some of my buddies wanted to go there instead. But both in Classic and Travel you can kill the session in the first few minutes, take the girl back to mama and most likely she will replace her with another girl. If the session is truly unsalvageable then that is the best option.
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. That's happened at least.
3 out of the last 5 time (in Classic T2 and T5). It kills the mood for me, and I walk out of the room, often after 15 minutes, having received neither a BJ, not sex.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?If mama doesn't care, that's a bad situation for you. When you complain, and mama doesn't care, I don't think there is much else you can do, as you can hardly contact VISA to initiate a chargeback, even if you paid by credit card.
I think you should still complain, as you did. Even if nothing else, we can hope that a girl that gets enough complaints will eventually be removed.
I agree with others that in situations like this, it can be beneficial to have cultivated a decent relationship with at least some mamasans, but it sucks that it should be necessary. And I'm not even sure the one mamasan I do have a decent relationship with would do anything about the situation should the same happen to me. I expect her to, but I'm not sure.
That one mamasan is BTW named "Chaca", and was the only one I could stand on my first visit to Jakarta. On my last, some of the other mamasans also started to behave a bit more cordial towards me. Chaca speaks relatively decent English, so perhaps try to "charm" her a little bit, explain the situation, and tell her you don't want problems like that again. Then take the next couple of girls from her and see how it goes. Just an idea.
I don’t like Chacha. She's the most aggressive and obnoxious of the mamis. she should know by now that I don’t want girls with babies, but she keeps on presenting them to me.
But both in Classic and Travel you can kill the session in the first few minutes, take the girl back to mama and most likely she will replace her with another girl. If the session is truly unsalvageable then that is the best option.Really? There have been a few situations where I would have loved to do that. How many times have you tried that and how many times did mami replace the girl?
I'm travelling to Jakarta soon ish and the strategy I devised it is to try to get me a papi who speaks decent english, so I can properly communitate with them upfront. Buy him / her a drink first (laughable damage that can get me long way) sit them down for a minute and explain this is not my first rodeo and I need such and such girl, that will make no fuss about BBBJ and will provide good service, I don't want a girl fresh from the "ricefields" who doesn't know how to fuck. Also, I will explain that in case of a very good services, both the girl and the papi is in for a tip. I dislike the idea of tipping the papi but I only have so much time in Jakarta, about two shots per night max on average and I cannot waste it on subpar experiences.
Also I'm still human and encoutering a girl who doesn't want to be there kills my mood, I would rather send her back than feel like I'm "raping" someone. If I can avoid that by shelling a tip on mami that is worth literally one beer in big city in Europe or less (100 k is about 5 eur, right?) than I would rather fucking do that and save me a headache.
I'm sure there's enough good girls who will actually like me, I just need to filtrr them out quickly, I don't have weeks to play around.
Also toying with the idea of mentioning my exploits will be published, so it's in the establishment's interest to help me do business to the satisfaction of all parties involved. Not sure about this last part tho, if they give a fuck at all or if it helps me in any way. Either way, I will plays nice and polite, while setting out my expectations and level of experience clearly and grease the wheels with some cash. I will report how I fared once done.
I dont like Chacha. She's the most aggressive and obnoxious of the mamis. she should know by now that I dont want girls with babies, but she keeps on presenting them to me.Haha. I think I have heard others here also say similar things about her. Shows how much we all differ in who we get along with I guess.
Also toying with the idea of mentioning my exploits will be published, so it's in the establishment's interest to help me do business to the satisfaction of all parties involved. Not sure about this last part tho, if they give a fuck at all or if it helps me in any way. Don't do that.
But in general Classic is far to commercial and mass market now and I mostly avoid it. Where do you recommend instead, for a similar price? Open in the daytime for some quick in and out?
I'm visiting again in a few weeks and always keep meaning to explore other places, but end up simply walking to Classic every afternoon, while preferring to stay in the room or do civilian/normal dating at night if possible. Now I've for the first time booked a hotel that's not walking distance away from Classic though (HI), which will give me some more incentive to try out Lokasari at least, as it looks close on the map.
On the other hand, I'm still a newbie and Classic has not worn out on me. Still ranks as #1 for me (price/quality/quantity/convenience/time efficiency/etc.). I enjoy the early visits before it's overflowing with smoke and tour groups.
After Emporivm raised the prices and reduced the roomtime, I've not been back there.
I dont like Chacha. She's the most aggressive and obnoxious of the mamis. she should know by now that I dont want girls with babies, but she keeps on presenting them to me.I now remembered one visit last month when I walked in an early afternoon, and saw what looked like two busloads of Chinese. They must have arrived just a couple of minutes before me, and heard them before I saw them. They were being presented a line-up with what looked like all the girls present at the moment.
I thought to myself "oh, fuck. Are there even enough girls here yet?", as I walked over to sit down by a table close to the line-up. Fortunately Chaca also saw me sitting down, and quickly pulled a girl out of the line-up and brought her over to me. I didn't like that girl much, so she pulled another girl out, who I then went to the room with.
LoveItHere69
08-11-25, 05:30
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FriendlyPlanet
08-11-25, 08:11
I'm travelling to Jakarta soon ish and the strategy I devised it is to try to get me a papi who speaks decent english, so I can properly communitate with them upfront. Buy him / her a drink first (laughable damage that can get me long way) sit them down for a minute and explain this is not my first rodeo and I need such and such girl, that will make no fuss about BBBJ and will provide good service, I don't want a girl fresh from the "ricefields" who doesn't know how to fuck. Also, I will explain that in case of a very good services, both the girl and the papi is in for a tip. I dislike the idea of tipping the papi but I only have so much time in Jakarta, about two shots per night max on average and I cannot waste it on subpar experiences.
I will report how I fared once done.I think they will just decide that you are a rich foreigner making it rain. You'll get plenty of attention, but much of it may be unwelcome- since you're handing out money, both girls and mami-sans will want to work you for what they can get. I really doubt they will find you better girls- rather they will direct you onto the ones willing to tip them back for landing a whale, willing to tip big.
But please do report back- maybe with some it'll work. In general, I'the focus on doing the legwork to interview up front, and tip well after for good service received, not in advance in the hope you will get better service.
I think they will just decide that you are a rich foreigner making it rain. You'll get plenty of attention, but much of it may be unwelcome- since you're handing out money, both girls and mami-sans will want to work you for what they can get. I really doubt they will find you better girls- rather they will direct you onto the ones willing to tip them back for landing a whale, willing to tip big.
But please do report back- maybe with some it'll work. In general, I'the focus on doing the legwork to interview up front, and tip well after for good service received, not in advance in the hope you will get better service.I'm white as a sheet of paper, I expect them to think that the second I step into to the establishment. And I'm happy to do so, I just want to spend it on an exceptional service, that's all.
Yes, I plan to interview the girl mami will recommend first too and only tip AFTER and only if the services was really good, which I will outline upfront, but I think it cannot hurt being friendly with the mami from the get go. And what's buying them a drink to an European? And I want to explain that when the service is trully great, the mami is in for a tip too, so better for them to help me than send me a girl that will only share a part of their tip with them. I would hope the mamis can use logic.
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but I think it cannot hurt being friendly with the mami from the get go. And what's buying them a drink to an European? Mami's don't have time to sit and have a drink with a punter. They're busy running around, filling in those voucher slips, getting new guys to look at their girls, calling girls over to a table to present themselves to some Chinese monger, manning the main entrance so that when a new customer walks in, they'll nab him. Etc etc.
Nice idea though. Better to just slip mami a 50 k note. Remember that mami's haven't fucked any of their girls, so in many cases, they don't know how good / bad the service from a new girl will be. Mamai's job is to get those new girls customers, and she'll tell you whatever bullshit she thinks you want to hear. "Yes, good blowjob. New girl. No baby. "
I pocket the change, removing the staple on my way to the room. I remember mamasan suggesting I leave her the change. I always reply I'd tip myself, thank you. Tip untuk saya sendiri.
Mamasans get a cut on each girl they sell.
I do not rely on mamasans to bring me girls, let alone "good girls" or "gems". Mamasans do bring me girls but they're nearly always girls I need to wave away as quickly as they're brough to me. The girls I take to the rooms are girls I point to myself and insist on having brought to me. If I insist long enough one mamasan or another will do the job of summoning the girl I point to. My problem with getting the girls I want has more to do with some girls rejecting me outright as they sit, ie refusing to stand up, which as I understand each girl has a right to. Between one in ten and two in ten girls reject me in this way, which I regard as acceptable, nowhere near as bad as in Pattaya where my rejection rate with hot-looking girl is nearer 80%.
How much you agreed.
Few thousand dollars all her college years?
If you were only for month or two vs you stay indo long term.
Maybe GFE side experience without living together.
My last trip, I tried Badoo and met a civi. Here are the Pros and Cons from my perspective:
Pros:
1. Truly GFE, she let me did everything I ever dreamed of even ATM (not the cash dispensing kind =)).
2. She can communicate in English.
3. She's like my local tour guide, we went to Bali and it was great going and fucking around whenever I feel like it.
Cons:
1. Only one pussy for the entire trip.
2. It's more expensive, I'm now paying for her college tuition.
3. I'm catching feeling when I know I shouldn't.
This is my personal experience venturing into the civi world. If you don't have a responsibility back home or a heart, I wouldn't recommend it due to feelings and such. My next trip, I think I'll stick to P4P.
Same here don't like her.
Chacha says what you want to hear, lies.
You ask baru she says baru (new) but the girl says ok to interview but refuses in room some of requests.
You ask 20 yrs but the girl is 25 or 28 not big issue, but chcha says 20 yr.
High pressure sales personality.
Avoid her, even though she may have higher count of girls.
I dont like Chacha. She's the most aggressive and obnoxious of the mamis. she should know by now that I dont want girls with babies, but she keeps on presenting them to me.
Had several average to few outright bad.
Doing better interview, touch response, asking questions for rules upfront.
Some actually lied ok to kiss but refused later.
There are few localgroups locals share reviews of girls classic but hard to follow as most they give good to average reviews with ratings for each type of service.
But the same girl difficult to find as no clear name mama name in their reports.
I've hit a rough patch recently whereby the last new girls I've chosen, gave a very poor service. Many of them even refusing to give a blowjob! WTF. That's happened at least.
3 out of the last 5 time (in Classic T2 and T5). It kills the mood for me, and I walk out of the room, often after 15 minutes, having received neither a BJ, not sex.
I tell mami that the girl was shit, and make my disappointment very clear. Mami of course, doesn't really give a shit.
What would you do in this situation?
Mami's don't have time to sit and have a drink with a punter. They're busy running around, filling in those voucher slips, getting new guys to look at their girls, calling girls over to a table to present themselves to some Chinese monger, manning the main entrance so that when a new customer walks in, they'll nab him. Etc etc.
Nice idea though. Better to just slip mami a 50 k note. Remember that mami's haven't fucked any of their girls, so in many cases, they don't know how good / bad the service from a new girl will be. Mamai's job is to get those new girls customers, and she'll tell you whatever bullshit she thinks you want to hear. "Yes, good blowjob. New girl. No baby. "Agree about the drink and cash.
But sometimes they do know. Whether they will care or tell you is another thing.
One time she was pushing a girl on me. I thought she looked ok, but also thought I could find cuter / prettier if I looked around some more. She said this girl does BJ very well, and I will be happy. I was still doubtful however, so she said "ok, up to you, want to see other girls?" I thought for a second, and then said ok, lets try the girl. Well, she did indeed suck dick very well. She knew it too, and was showing of a bit for the other girl who was also in the room. Going all the way down, and holding it there for several seconds. Not something I have experienced often.
Also if people keep complaining about a girl, they will know that too, which is another good reason to complain if things sucked.
Just returned from my mid-year trip to Jakarta and my visit to Blok M. Not much happening in this area. Now down to 1 place. My Bar. Not as it used to be. Basically on Friday.
And Saturday are there some personnel. I don't usually visit the massage places as stated in the forum it's usually bad service.
I do stay in the Gajah Mada area so I did use the Ojek guys for connection and I did find a stunner among the choices. Good service good attitude but a bit rushed.
There are some walkers on Gajah Mada near the McDonalds but due to street construction not a lot.
Although I was close to Travel Hotel I didn't visit. Did meet another forum person and went to Kota area. Lots of bars with some 8/9 in these places. So it's worth a try.
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Agree about the drink and cash.
But sometimes they do know. Whether they will care or tell you is another thing.
One time she was pushing a girl on me. I thought she looked ok, but also thought I could find cuter / prettier if I looked around some more. She said this girl does BJ very well, and I will be happy. I was still doubtful however, so she said "ok, up to you, want to see other girls?" I thought for a second, and then said ok, lets try the girl. Well, she did indeed suck dick very well. She knew it too, and was showing of a bit for the other girl who was also in the room. Going all the way down, and holding it there for several seconds. Not something I have experienced often.
Also if people keep complaining about a girl, they will know that too, which is another good reason to complain if things sucked.That would be my logic, even though they do not fuck their girls, they must know from the customers which girls on average get a good rapport with them and which have a high degree of complaints. And unless I tip them, what is their motivation to share this knowledge with me? None, they will just want to unload just any girl on me and fuck off to entertain a group of rich Chinese blokes.
I'm just a white walking piggy bank to them anyway, why not try to use in my advantage? 50-100 k means nothing to me.
Also in Thailand this can work quite well, not sure why Jakarta would be different? And taking no more than 5 minutes to talk to me is literally the description of their job, cannot agree with the argument that they do not have time for this, sorry.
BroComplex
08-12-25, 13:24
How to get to this area and is it safe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q8VG4upI1Y
There are many videos on this channel inside classic, travel and many other shady areas.
How to get to this area and is it safe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q8VG4upI1Y
There are many videos on this channel inside classic, travel and many other shady areas.
I think this is the same train track location at the intersection of Jl. Bandengan Utara III and Jl. Liberia Dalam III (look for Dapur Nyonya Adel restaurant). The stairs are directly across from this restaurant, very narrow, steep, and tricky to climb that will lead you to the track and then start walking towards east. The location itself is rough and a bit risky to reach but is safe, you won't get roughed up. I've visited a few places like this in Jakarta, Cibitung, and Bandung, unless you're going purely for a cultural "been there, done that" experience, I wouldn't recommend going there with the intention of partaking. The videos are enticing, but rooms are made of plywood, with no bathroom, water, towels, and you'll encounter rats, roaches, mosquitoes besides girls.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-12-25, 15:36
I'm travelling to Jakarta soon ish and the strategy I devised it is to try to get me a papi who speaks decent english, so I can properly communitate with them upfront. Buy him / her a drink first (laughable damage that can get me long way) sit them down for a minute and explain this is not my first rodeo and I need such and such girl, that will make no fuss about
Also toying with the idea of mentioning my exploits will be published, so it's in the establishment's interest to help me do business to the satisfaction of all parties involved. Not sure about this last part tho, if they give a fuck at all or if it helps me in any way. Either way, I will plays nice and polite, while setting out my expectations and level of experience clearly and grease the wheels with some cash. I will report how I fared once done.Where do you plan to find a 'papi'? Classic and Travel and run by mamasans and you don't need to be buying them drinks. Just tell them the kind of girl you are looking for and reject any you don't immediately click with.
Also, do not tell them you plan to publish your experiences. They do not need nor want that. That would only work to your disadvantage in that they will now not trust you. Bad, bad idea.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-12-25, 15:43
I forgot her name already. Am I bad?
Another MiChat 18 yo, happy with 300 k and a small tip. Cute, the kind of body I like but unfortunately not the best in bed. Too inexperienced. Lots of these kinds of girls on MiChat, found in the People Nearby section.
One for the road as I plan to vacate Mangga Besar and relocate to Bali within days. Tired of being in the armpit of Asia and need some beach and bar time.
How to get to this area and is it safe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q8VG4upI1Y
There are many videos on this channel inside classic, travel and many other shady areas.Poster of the video has shared the google map location in the comments (two weeks ago) section. I don't know how safe is that location. Looks like it's chiefly for the local clientele. There were few posts about SWs near rail-tracks. Mayb one of the seniors can shed some more light on this matter.
Happy and safe punting.
Cheers.
Same here don't like her.
Chacha says what you want to hear, lies.
You ask baru she says baru (new) but the girl says ok to interview but refuses in room some of requests.
You ask 20 yrs but the girl is 25 or 28 not big issue, but chcha says 20 yr.
High pressure sales personality.
Avoid her, even though she may have higher count of girls.
LOL. I hope you dudes realize most of these mommas don't know a dam thing about their girls.
I usually ignore them and speak directly to the girl.
Captain Solo
08-12-25, 18:45
Would love to try Michat girls, but would they come to Classic hotel?
Where do you plan to find a 'papi'? Classic and Travel and run by mamasans and you don't need to be buying them drinks. Just tell them the kind of girl you are looking for and reject any you don't immediately click with.
Also, do not tell them you plan to publish your experiences. They do not need nor want that. That would only work to your disadvantage in that they will now not trust you. Bad, bad idea.The OP probably doesn't realise that the Asian business model of commissions from Ladies Drinks is a rarity in Indonesia. The girls and everyone else make money from fucking not drinking and talking for hours.
Mention internet posts, reviews and photos and expect to instantly become an ignored leper. The OP may even be surrounded by roided up bouncers and bodily escorted out of the building. I'd agree, it's not a good idea.
Enjoy. G.
LoveItHere69
08-12-25, 20:31
How to get to this area and is it safe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q8VG4upI1Y
There are many videos on this channel inside classic, travel and many other shady areas.Maybe read my post a year ago with all the details plus a map.
Would love to try Michat girls, but would they come to Classic hotel?
Most girls would come to any hotel including Classic if you're staying there as a guest with a room. However, the Classic Hotel is better known as a brothel hotel than an actual hotel, so it might carry a certain stigma and would look like bringing sand to the beach, a better option might be to stay at nearby hotels like Yuan Garden, Heef, Grand G7 and have them come over there instead.
I think this is the same train track location at the intersection of Jl. Bandengan Utara III and Jl. Liberia Dalam III (look for Dapur Nyonya Adel restaurant). The stairs are directly across from this restaurant, very narrow, steep, and tricky to climb that will lead you to the track and then start walking towards east. The location itself is rough and a bit risky to reach but is safe, you won't get roughed up. I've visited a few places like this in Jakarta, Cibitung, and Bandung, unless you're going purely for a cultural "been there, done that" experience, I wouldn't recommend going there with the intention of partaking. The videos are enticing, but rooms are made of plywood, with no bathroom, water, towels, and you'll encounter rats, roaches, mosquitoes besides girls.Yes, there is no danger, except the trains passing high speed next to you!
Don't go before 9:00. Best after 10:00 to late. There are some shops where you can get a simple drink. Sit down, relax and watch the scene. Older girls may approach you and suggest.
Some of their younger work collegues, new to the business. The huts are primitive: just a matress and a dim light. Take wet towels along -- and enjoy this unique special location. I think 170 k is the local fare. But you will get recognized as a newcomer and they will ask for 200 k.
LetMeIn6969
08-13-25, 00:14
She said around $250 per semester at Grade B college but now she wants to go to grade A ($626). I told her that if she gets a C, I'll cut her off.
How much you agreed.
Few thousand dollars all her college years?
If you were only for month or two vs you stay indo long term.
Maybe GFE side experience without living together.
LetMeIn6969
08-13-25, 00:27
About papisan, the only one whom I know is David at Emporium. He's gay so the girls are cool with him. I recommend him if you have the dough. On my previous trip, I spent all my time at Emporium: had breakfast, went on a tour of the museums, then went to Emporium at 2 pm and didn't leave until 9 pm. On average, I fucked 3 girls everyday in there. One at 2 pm, then rested in the cabana by the pool and watched other men taking girls to the pool, then one more girl. After that, dinner at Wilde Cut restaurant, then back to Emporium for the last time.
Where do you plan to find a 'papi'? Classic and Travel and run by mamasans and you don't need to be buying them drinks. Just tell them the kind of girl you are looking for and reject any you don't immediately click with.
Also, do not tell them you plan to publish your experiences. They do not need nor want that. That would only work to your disadvantage in that they will now not trust you. Bad, bad idea.
Nuttin Serious
08-13-25, 00:52
Im just a white walking piggy bank to them anyway, why not try to use in my advantage? 50-100 k means nothing to me.
I'm not convinced your generous 5 euro tip is going to do anything for you at all in a place like classic. And as others have said already, speaking of any publicity will only get you negative attention. These places (Classic, travel, malio, emporium all owned by the same) are already known by those who need to know.
What you are saying is that you should be visiting 1001 and emporium, 2 places where, on arrival mami or papi WILL sit down with you on a couch, ask you preferences and make recommendations or offer a select lineup. Its their job. The girls are to a higher standard, and are paid to put the effort in. Sure it costs more, but its what you are asking for.
Remember one persons bragged about 'super hot young thing' might be your 'unfit, bit out of shape mid 20's'. Which is what most of the classic girls are.
That would be my logic, even though they do not fuck their girls, they must know from the customers which girls on average get a good rapport with them and which have a high degree of complaints. And unless I tip them, what is their motivation to share this knowledge with me? None, they will just want to unload just any girl on me and fuck off to entertain a group of rich Chinese blokes.
I'm just a white walking piggy bank to them anyway, why not try to use in my advantage? 50-100 k means nothing to me.
Also in Thailand this can work quite well, not sure why Jakarta would be different? And taking no more than 5 minutes to talk to me is literally the description of their job, cannot agree with the argument that they do not have time for this, sorry.
Well, the guys saying they will not care about your tip are mostly right, I think. Once you get there you will see it's too much of a conveyor belt setup. That, coupled with you not speaking bahasa, and most of the mamasans being obnoxious and pushy, giving them a 100k note out of the blue, before or after, is not going to make them care. Personally, I wouldn't bother giving them any tip, but you might try and see how it goes. Maybe you can report back if so.
If you by coincidence meet a mamasan there you get along with, and who you can chat/joke with a bit, things can be a bit better and more honest, but most of them creep me out, so that's no easy task. I only tipped the one I did get along with after several visits, and that was just because she was not constantly creeping me out, and treated me ok (though as you see, many others here disagree about her).
She even messaged me on whatsapp one early afternoon, giving the name of a new girl working there today that she thought I would like. Unfortunately I only saw the message later, after she saw me coming back from the rooms with a girl from another mamasan, and told me about sending me the message earlier. When a few days later I wanted to go with the girl she had mentioned, she was already gone.
Same as a hot and cool (sounds like an oxymoron, but you know what I mean) girl I banged a few days earlier, and who I planned to repeat with later. Was still working there the next one or two days, but then: gone. First time in my mongering life I've even given a thought to paying anyone to stay overnight I think.
In my limited experience it seems that the few really hot girls that do turn up at Classic are soon gone to somewhere else, as the same thing happened last year also. Banged a really hot girl (hotter than anyone I've seen at e.g. Emporivm), and then never saw her again. Not working at Classic any more.
Offshore Swell
08-13-25, 09:24
Got to love this cohort of Jakarta adventurers that want the proscriptive adventure based on google translate. Will you kiss me? Will you give me BJ? ,You must give me good service. What are you buying? A horse?
Starting out with a list of demands on google translate is a sure fire way to kill the mood. Ditto for paying the mami, she don't care unless you have history with her. The last customer wanted chubby, the next one small. How on earth is she meant to be able second guess your already convoluted needs as shown to her on your phone screen.
Here's a tip. Floss your teeth, lose the beer belly, smile like you mean it, dress nicely and relax. There are some magnificent experiences to be had in Jakarta where those little hotties can be writhing in pleasure. But standing there interviewing the girls like King Pring is highly unlikely to get you there. Whether you like it or not, attraction is still part of the chemistry even in these places.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-13-25, 09:25
'unfit, bit out of shape mid 20's'. Which is what most of the classic girls are.Perfect description of what I've seen in both Classic and Travel. Plus 80% of them seem bored and sad and would give anything to be somewhere else. Sure, there are a few very nice ones on occasion but I've yet to see a girl at either place that really does it for me.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-13-25, 09:27
The OP probably doesn't realise that the Asian business model of commissions from Ladies Drinks is a rarity in Indonesia. The girls and everyone else make money from fucking not drinking and talking for hours.
Mention internet posts, reviews and photos and expect to instantly become an ignored leper. The OP may even be surrounded by roided up bouncers and bodily escorted out of the building. I'd agree, it's not a good idea.
Enjoy. G.YEP. Clearly he's never been there.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-13-25, 09:29
Would love to try Michat girls, but would they come to Classic hotel?They'll meet you basically anywhere, so yes. I mean Classic and Travel exist solely for prostitution, so.
She said around $250 per semester at Grade B college but now she wants to go to grade A ($626). I told her that if she gets a C, I'll cut her off.So less than the cost of two days at Emporivm for you per semester then? ;-) Doesn't sound too bad.
So, had my first Classic experience today. Thanks to the YouTube videos and the advice on here, I at least had an idea of where I was going.
Still, it was a bit of an assault on the senses. I sat down at one of the bar tables and I was immediately approached by a mamasan called LengLeng who for reasons best known to her told me to sit at the table behind. I duly complied and she wheeled out a selection of girls. None of them looked too enthusiastic but I selected one who was to my liking. Her English was almost non existent though so it made the chat all rather strained. She smiled at the right moments when I translated GFE etc. It all seemed fine so I paid up and off we went. Once we got down to things though, she started making noises about a CBJ. I resisted but she then said that mamasan would be angry. I reminded her that Mamasan was upstairs and she relented. It did take some persuasion though and it was all a bit of a mood killer. Anyway, once it was all done she started asking for a tip. I gave her the stapled notes and she looked appalled and kept saying "red, red, red!" TBH, I thought she was going to make screen so I added another 20 k. She still wasn't happy but I told her that if she hadn't made such a fuss about the CBJ it might have been more. I could tell by this stage she was pissed and we walked back upstairs in silence. She didn't even bother with a goodbye. Never mind!
So less than the cost of two days at Emporivm for you per semester then? ;-) Doesn't sound too bad.Less then one day. If he fucked 3 girls a day there he was spending at least 300 USD.
Less then one day. If he fucked 3 girls a day there he was spending at least 300 USD.But she's starting grade A college now.
Just for giggles I ran GFE through Google Translate.
I'd love to see the girls' faces when a newbie requests "pengalaman teman perempuan".
Good luck with that.
I'd agree that it's amazing what a smile, some manners and a little generosity can get you.
Enjoy. G.LOL. Obviously, I didn't do a literal translate. I used words to that effect and I went into more detail. And she understood because she reiterated it back to me. I actually went back later and this time went to T5. Standard wise this place correlated more with what people have said on here about low quality overall in terms of looks. Also, at 9 pm there were 3-4 customers. With the live band and so many girls, it felt rather surreal. I ended up with one girl who immediately asked for a drink and cigarettes. Again, English was minimal but no CBJ this time. Had a bizarre experience at the end of the session where just as we were exiting the room, she called the housekeeping boy in and pointed to some red mark on the bedsheet. I think was her lipstick. They then forensically examined it before she went into the shower area and scrubbed it all off. I just watched on bemused. For me, the whole Classic experience all feels quite mechanical and one in one out. The music is also way too loud for my liking. I'll give Emporium a try tomorrow!
NoGermaphobe
08-13-25, 22:31
The ladies get fined if there are any stains on the sheets discovered by housekeeping after the session, so they are always worried about that.
I've watched the same scenario play out several times as I've had a few ladies bleed over the years. (Starting menstruation, or not quite finished) They spend a few minutes with soap and a towel scrubbing out the stain. Big wet spot? No problem. A little bit of blood or lipstick? FINED!
Had a bizarre experience at the end of the session where just as we were exiting the room, she called the housekeeping boy in and pointed to some red mark on the bedsheet. I think was her lipstick. They then forensically examined it before she went into the shower area and scrubbed it all off. I just watched on bemused. !
And she's already experienced with A-level encounters (wink).
But she's starting grade A college now.
Less then one day. If he fucked 3 girls a day there he was spending at least 300 USD.
So less than the cost of two days at Emporivm for you per semester then? ;-) Doesn't sound too bad.
1. Truly GFE, she let me did everything I ever dreamed of even ATM (not the cash dispensing kind =)).Indeed, a good find, LetMeIn6969. (Claps).
The ladies get fined if there are any stains on the sheets discovered by housekeeping after the session, so they are always worried about that.
I've watched the same scenario play out several times as I've had a few ladies bleed over the years. (Starting menstruation, or not quite finished) They spend a few minutes with soap and a towel scrubbing out the stain. Big wet spot? No problem. A little bit of blood or lipstick? FINED!Very good system. Deterring girls from working while menstruating. Menstruation is a major hasard of picking girls from the street. You then get fined by your hotel (on top of the sheer nuisance).
1. willingness to hear her crap and sob story.
2. all round knowledge for a meaningful conversation.
3. witt & humor.
4. money in pocket, not be stingy, got to spend as nothing comes for free.
5. look sharp and smell nice, take care of oral and personal hygiene.
And remember if its not her then there is someone else in the waiting, don't play horny or too desperate.
Here's a tip. Floss your teeth, lose the beer belly, smile like you mean it, dress nicely and relax. There are some magnificent experiences to be had in Jakarta where those little hotties can be writhing in pleasure. But standing there interviewing the girls like King Pring is highly unlikely to get you there. Whether you like it or not, attraction is still part of the chemistry even in these places.
Believe it or not, I always enquire about a girls cycle with her mami or papi, and avoid girls who just finished 1-2 days before. Even with SA or on apps Ii check with them and ask directly. Don't want session to end abruptly. It works.
Very good system. Deterring girls from working while menstruating. Menstruation is a major hasard of picking girls from the street. You then get fined by your hotel (on top of the sheer nuisance).
Irish Mongrel
08-14-25, 16:35
lose the beer belly, smile like you mean it, dress nicely and relax. There are some magnificent experiences to be had in Jakarta where those little hotties can be writhing in pleasure. But standing there interviewing the girls like King Pring is highly unlikely to get you there. Whether you like it or not, attraction is still part of the chemistry even in these places.Gave up on losing my beer belly years ago and didn't hinder the adventures in civvie land. Jakarta is the world I wish I had found 30 years ago, then again, my most pleasurable adventure would have ignored me as to young! But I am still glad I got to enjoy it before what it has become now.
Here's a tip. Floss your teeth, lose the beer belly, smile like you mean it, dress nicely and relax. There are some magnificent experiences to be had in Jakarta where those little hotties can be writhing in pleasure. But standing there interviewing the girls like King Pring is highly unlikely to get you there. Whether you like it or not, attraction is still part of the chemistry even in these places.Wow. This sort of invaluable, secret knowledge shouldn't be handed out freely, OS. You're revealing the deepest secrets of attraction and game here. The kind of priceless knowledge that most of us have never heard of. Thanks. Please carry on.
Medellin65
08-14-25, 18:57
Some one know if there is a karaoke named "Blink" in Jakarta? I seen on tik tok a girl, I really like. On wall there is write "Blink" and it is a karaoke, may be is in another town in Indonesia.
Captain Solo
08-14-25, 21:13
Best personal knowledge. Biggest secrets.
Bucu Travel
08-14-25, 21:26
This text was translated using DeepL, and I hope it is easy to read and understand.
Foreword:
Having read more than 200 pages over the last few months, I would like to express my sincere thanks to Werqweq, Gaijin Gigolo, Asian Rain.
NoGermaphobe, LoveItHere69, Gabacho, GuyReynolds, Edward Q and many others (small selection from the last pages) for the numerous tips and information. Once you've read everything, there's actually nothing new in my report. However, not everything went smoothly for me, and I find reports that mention mistakes more useful than those that only describe how great everything went.
I even wrote down the most important information from your reports beforehand, only to forget them at home on my PC. .
My perspective:
I am older, solidly built, but still reasonably attractive, and I like young, slim women between the ages of 18 and 22. So Jakarta is a good destination for me. I also don't like condoms; for me, only BBFS is the only option. It was my first time in Jakarta, but I'm not inexperienced when it comes to sex tourism. I also like to take photos and, above all, videos of the women. With or without their consent, although I'm always discreet. Accordingly, I also have some homemade hardware with me. However, I don't want to share any technical details about it. Please don't ask, not even via private message.
Arrival:
Immediately after entering the country, I purchased a SIM card with 25 GB of data and a phone number at one of the two Telkomsel stands in the arrivals area. Not every smartphone works on the Indonesian network, apparently especially those that are Chinese brands (e. G. , Google Pixel, as I discovered with my second smartphone).
Payment is only accepted in cash, which I found surprising. There is also a currency exchange office in the entrance area. Since it is generally not a good idea to exchange money at the airport, I took the elevator down one floor to the departure area to withdraw money from a BCA ATM.
Before departure, I installed the Grab app and registered a credit card. The mobile number of my private eSIM was still active, but mobile data was turned off. The Telkomsel card was active with a number and mobile data.
At the pick-up point at the airport exit, I ordered a Grab to the hotel, which worked without any problems.
Hotel:
As a complete beginner in Jakarta, the Classic Hotel seemed to be the best choice for me. The rooms are well furnished, well maintained, and clean. The room service does a very good job every day. The shower and toilet are also great. There is also a sufficiently large safe and a refrigerator. What makes the Classic special is that it has its own entertainment areas. Terminal 2 (take the escalator to the top) and Terminal 5 (take the elevator from level G to the 5th floor). More on that later.
At the hotel, it is possible to bring women to your room without ID checks or anything like that. However, you have to walk past the open breakfast area and the reception desk. Personally, I prefer it to be discreet, and I will not give out any room numbers. In addition, you can only use the elevator on the way up with your room card. I find the breakfast adequate for Europeans for two to three days, after that I was done with it.
When you leave the hotel and turn right, there is a small supermarket that also has a BCA ATM. There you can choose between 100,000 and 50,000 rupees. Further to the right was a small bank with a BCA ATM, which is a good choice if your card gets "eaten. " However, this branch has been closed. Opposite the hotel, a little to the right, there is a larger BCA branch with six ATMs. Here, too, you can choose the denomination. I always chose 100,000 and 2. 4 million, sometimes twice in a row. There were no problems. The exchange rate on the Mastercard statement was good and there were no additional fees.
To get to the large bank, you have to cross the street. Before staying at the Classic, I found this very dangerous. In general, I find the location directly on the street unfavorable. I find the area around the Luminor and Mövenpick hotels much better, as you can walk there in a more relaxed manner. These hotels are about a 10-minute walk from the Classic. The Emporium is also located there.
The hotel offers a spa area with a very hot whirlpool, a cooling pool, a sauna, and a steam bath. The unlimited time package costs IDR 400,000 and also includes a 90-minute full-body massage. The area looks very nice, but for me personally it was too stuffy. In the sauna, the Indonesians also spoke or shouted very loudly. This is not in line with my usual sauna culture, but that's my problem, as I'm only a guest. Alternatively, there is a 60-minute massage in your room for 150 k. In all cases, a happy ending is offered. Since the ladies did not fit my type, I was always able to politely decline. However, they ensured a long erection phase with their very skillful touches in certain places.
First of all, I would like to add that I have used Michat from time to time. However, I was mainly offered videos there. I didn't like the women who were available to contact there.
Terminal 2:
My first port of call was Terminal 2, where I arrived around 6:00 pm In retrospect, this was a very good time for me. The first women arrive at 1:00 pm, and the majority arrive around 3:00 pm, so you can go to T2 at 4:00 pm It was always most crowded between 6:00 and 8:00 pm Later, the gems were hard to find or already very tired. But that can certainly vary from day to day.
In any case, the mamasans pounced on me, but they left me alone when I made it clear that I wanted to look around first. On your first visit, the number of women is overwhelming, and there are also many pretty women. However, I quickly adapted and became more selective.
After about an hour, I discovered a cute chick at a table on my own. I blocked all of the mama's attempts. She was 18 years old, petite, had small breasts, and a very sweet smile. The only minor flaw was a slightly crooked tooth. I then paid the mamasan the usual 365 k /60 min for an hour. I decided not to have a preliminary talk with the girl.
Then we went into the room. Everything was clean, big enough, and the shower was easily visible. The girl turned out to be a real sweetheart. She has a gorgeous figure and a delicately hairy pussy, just my thing. Kissing was only possible to a limited extent, but everything else was fine. After licking and a blowjob, we moved on to fucking. I told her that I had a problem with condoms, mentioned "Tipp 100" and indicated that I would come on her stomach. No sooner said than done, and everything was wonderful. Afterwards, we showered together again. Unfortunately, I never saw her again and neglected to ask for her number. BBFS 60 min, 18 years old, 565 k /25 €, top!
The next time I went to T2, I let the mamasans do the work. I told them exactly what I was looking for, and they presented me with a few girls. I wasn't really happy with them, but I trusted the mamasans' judgment.
I then booked a double for 500 k /60 min. Both women were relatively pretty, 19 and 22 years old, if I remember correctly. The younger one was a bit stockier and probably brand new to the business. The 22-year-old took control of the situation. The service was mediocre (one didn't want to kiss, the other didn't want to give head, etc.). When it came to the condom, they ripped me off. Both wanted 500,000 for BBFS, which was absolutely unacceptable. I then let myself be persuaded to 300,000 rupees because I quickly converted it into euros (+16 €). I then fucked both of them bareback one after the other and pumped my seed into the older one.
In between, the two of them said that I should only focus on one of them at a time. I quickly cleared that up. While one was being fucked, I held the other in my arms, kissed her, and fingered her. All in all, it was a good experience by Indonesian standards. Cost: BBFS, 2 x 19-/22-year-olds, 60 min for 1. 1 million (€60).
Sari Ayu / New Sari Ayu (Mega Ayu?
With the grave, I went to Komplek Kota Indah. First, I went to Sari Ayu. There were about 20–40 girls to choose from, sitting on stepped benches in good lighting. The place was about half full. Many of the women were attractive, but they didn't fit my target group. Men who like stocky women with large breasts are more likely to find what they're looking for there than at T2. After a beer, I went alone to the next place around the corner, called New Sari Ayu. There was even less choice there—maybe 20 women—and it was really quiet. Nevertheless, I took my time looking around. In fact, a nice girl caught my eye, and the mamasan brought her to my table. She didn't quite fit my target group (22 years old, normal-sized breasts, not so petite), but she was kind of nice. Since I like watching my personal Pornmovies, my hotel was the only option. Two to three hours cost 800,000 IDR /€42, which I think is okay. We took a Grab to the Classic Hotel. First, we took a long shower together. The woman was great in terms of service. There were intimate, deep French kisses, an extensive blowjob, and no questions about a condom. To my particular delight, she also let me film her with my smartphone without restriction for a tip of 200,000 k (my suggestion). That was a wonderful addition to my hidden recordings. So I was also able to record how my juice ran out of her again. The girl was really very nice, very clean and, of course, pretty.
Lokasari.
Since I also have a penchant for streetwalking girls, I didn't want to miss out on the Lokasari area. If there is another good streetwalking area in Jakarta with young women without any risk, where I can take them to a hotel, I would be grateful for a tip. I didn't have the courage – or the stupidity – to visit the railroad tracks.
I looked around near the KFC Lokasari. The selection was very limited: I counted a total of six girls, two of whom looked okay, but seemed quite rip-offish. Very quickly, I had their pimp, or someone who thought he was, on my case. I told him what I was looking for, and he told me he could get anything. I'll spare you the details for legal reasons, but the guy was also a big talker, which was clear at first glance. One girl was supposed to cost 400,000 rupees, which I thought was okay.
I told him to send a girl of my choice to the hotel. I would wait in the lobby. After some delay, he finally showed up with two girls. Neither of them was great. I would estimate their age to be 19–21. But since it was already late and I had been waiting for a long time, I finally decided on the less bad-looking girl. Both were supposed to cost 900 k.
We then took a shower in the room. The service was lousy: no kissing, arguments about the condom. Finally, I fucked her properly and pumped her full. It wasn't a special experience.
I complained to the pimp about the relatively poor service. He promised me improvement for the next day. He also offered me boys and virgins, which I declined. After the encounter with the girl before, it was finally clear to me that he was a fraud. But I was still willing to sacrifice another 400 k.
The next evening, after some delay, the next order arrived.
At my insistence, he sent me photos in advance, but they were heavily filtered. He didn't agree to a video call – for good reason.
He had brought two girls with him again, even though I had clearly said that one pretty one was enough for me. One of them looked okay, and her stated age of 18 seemed about right. She was slim and had medium-sized breasts. Her pussy was quite hairy, but not excessively so. We took a shower; she smelled a bit unpleasant. After showering together, we sat on the bed. For an extra 200,000 k, I was allowed to film her without restrictions, which was great. She didn't allow French kissing, and blowjobs without condoms were only possible after some discussion. After a minute or two, however, she broke down and was obviously about to throw up. In any case, she ran to the bathroom. On the one hand, I felt sorry for her, but on the other hand, her blowjob skills were praised as excellent. After some fucking and filming, I unfortunately couldn't finish. Her pussy smelled very unpleasant. I asked her to clean herself thoroughly again, but it didn't get any better. The grip was very good: tight, warm, and very slimy and wet, very natural and not professional. Only the smell was unacceptable.
I then sent her home with 300 k. The pimp received 400 k, but then demanded another 100 k in the lobby. That was definitely not agreed upon, but I also wanted to avoid a scene. Afterwards, he offered me more girls on WhatsApp. I deleted the chat and blocked him.
It's a shame, because if he had delivered properly, we would have done good business.
Terminal 2:
After a long search, I chose a really nice girl in Terminal 2. She has a great, slim figure, a pretty face, and is 19 years old. Since I wanted to expand my video collection, I asked Mamasan about an overnight stay at the hotel. This costs six sessions at 350,000 rupees each, or 2,100,000 rupees, or 112 euros. After the prices at the Emporium and the stinky pussy at Lokasari, I was ready for it. I then took her to my room. The service was impeccable, she was a really great girl who was also good to talk to. We showered together, had intimate and sometimes demanded kisses, constant eye contact, everything delicious and fragrant, a beautiful, slightly hairy pussy. After numerous positions, I came inside her. Unfortunately, like all the girls from T2, she doesn't allow photos or videos. Even with a lot of money, there was nothing to be done. It was a great experience: BBFS, 19 years old, 5 hours, 2. 3 million (including tip) for €117.
Emporium:
Of course, the highly acclaimed Emporium was also a must. I remembered that condoms were mandatory there, but after the fucking of the last few days, shooting into a rubber was practically impossible. I did let myself be taken away by one beauty, though. When we arrived in the afternoon, there were only about eight women present. Mamasan told me that there would be more women in the evening. After a drink and extensive observation, I asked a woman to join me at my table. I have to say, though, that for the money (1. 5 million for 90 minutes? I expect much better looks. She was quite good-looking, but at most a 7–8.
Her service is certainly excellent. When I asked her about the condom, she said that she had to insist on its use. This made it easier for me to decide to leave the place without getting laid. I ended up paying 350,000/€19 for nothing, but at least for the experience that this place is not for me.
However, for lovers of protected sex with an excellent atmosphere and service, it is certainly a good choice.
Terminal 2:
After the Emporium, I was back at Terminal 2. I had previously written to another mamasan to express my wishes in detail. I told her that I would be there at 10 pm At 9:45 pm, she wrote to me that she would be waiting for me. I arrived a few minutes early. She introduced me to a beautiful, slim girl with a wonderful figure. I was immediately impressed. I was told to wait a little longer, she would be there soon. A good 20 minutes later, I was still waiting. So I went to Mamasan and asked what was going on. She told me that I would have to wait a little longer because she was already with another customer. That was a no-go for me. First being introduced and then waiting for someone who had just been fucked. I was quite upset and said that I was leaving.
Terminal 5:
After that, I went to Terminal 5. It was already quite late and the place was only about a quarter full. The selection of girls was very limited, maybe 40 to 50. Unfortunately, I didn't find anything suitable either. One mamasan was very pushy. I told her that I wanted to tell her what I was looking for first. That didn't stop her from bringing women to me every two minutes, whom I sent away after a quick glance. Finally, she understood that it wasn't going to happen today. I left feeling slightly disappointed. In the meantime, the mamasan from T2 texted and called me dozens of times. She sent me photos of alternatives, but I didn't like them 100% after being introduced to this sweetheart. She was sorry about everything.
Terminal 2:
I gave Mamasan a second chance. At 10 pm, I was back there and she introduced me to the same girl as the day before. On the one hand, I thought she would present me with the absolute dream girl, but on the other hand, I was happy that I could fuck this pretty thing.
After handing over the money and paying the entrance fee, we went to my room in the Classic. She was already a little more experienced. We showered together, kissed intensely, blew and licked each other. The service left nothing to be desired. I was also allowed to come inside her. After cuddling, we fell asleep. In the morning, I licked her first and then fucked her again in a relaxed manner. It was really great with her. Another beautiful, fresh teenager with very good fucking technique. 19 years old, 7 hours, 2. 4 million, €128. That may be relatively a lot of money, but the price-performance ratio was great.
Back at Terminal 2: After the rather negative experiences at Lokasari and Terminal 2, I changed my strategy: At Terminal 2, I first book a double pack for 500,000 rupees. Then I see what the girl can do, and she comes to the hotel the next day. That's the plan.
After some searching and with the help of a mamsan, I found two girls. A slightly smaller woman with a cute, cheeky smile immediately stole my heart. The second, who came from Sumatra, had very interesting, large eyes and a very attractive body overall. She is the kind of woman you see on the street in a tight dress and think: I must fuck her. However, her aura was a little "harder," more experienced, which made me curious. It was worth a try.
At first, things were a little rocky in the room. Of course, I addressed the condom issue right away. The older one tried to spare the younger one, which earned my respect. That meant I was only supposed to fuck the younger one with a condom because she had her period (yeah, right.). In return, I was only supposed to kiss the younger one, while the older one didn't want that. At first, they came up with some adventurous additional demands, but we then agreed on 200 k for the younger one and 300 k for the older one. Actually too much, but unfortunately I was already dick-driven. Converted into euros, it's something to be ashamed of. Once everything was settled, the session was pretty good. After some kissing, licking, and blowjobs, I fucked the older one without a condom while I worked on the younger one with my hands and mouth. She was really cute and it was clear that I wanted her alone, as there can always be problems with a double pack. But at that price, that's totally fine with me. In the meantime, the two switched roles. In the end, as agreed, I shot a good load on the older one's belly. I then got the younger one's WhatsApp number. Luckily, the older one had her smartphone with her. After an hour, we were happy and completely drained. Partly BBFS with an 18-year-old and a 21-year-old, 60 minutes for 1. 5 million (€80).
That same evening, I contacted the 18-year-old via WhatsApp. I offered to pay her the same price I would have paid Mamasan for the night. It could certainly have been cheaper, but I just liked the girl. She was surprised and asked if my offer was serious. Since she already knew me, she could trust me. My condition, however, was that there should be practically no restrictions.
I only refrained from anal sex because I'm not into it and don't want to ejaculate inside her. It could actually be that she's not using contraception. Otherwise: kissing, blowjobs, and fucking without a condom. She agreed to this and was willing to do anything for me. However, she didn't allow photos or videos of the act.
The next morning, I chatted with her a little and also received a photo of her. She had taken the whole day off so that she would be fresh and fragrant as a virgin for me in the evening. According to her, she had arranged this with Mamasan. She had to give her 300,000.
At the agreed time, she came to the lobby, where I picked her up. We took our time with everything. We showered together, slowly got closer, licked each other extensively, enjoyed a wonderful long blowjob, kissed a lot, and then slept with a sugar-sweet teen with a handful of firm breasts and a very small, delicately hairy pussy. Simply a dream. In between, there were always a few good and funny dialogues. It was total girlfriend sex. After showering together, we went to sleep. I was allowed to decide when she could leave. It was wonderful to hug her as she fell asleep, kiss her neck and back, caress her breasts and her little pussy, and penetrate her with my finger.
In the early morning, I woke her up with my tongue. I really like the taste of a clean 18-year-old's pussy in the morning, so I got really hot again. This was followed by a good morning fuck, after which my legs were weak and she was able to leave at 7 am Cute 18-year-old, 9 hours for 2. 4 million (with tip) €128. That was great.
For me, Jakarta is one of the best places for prostitution. Are there comparable places in Indonesia or the Philippines?
Thanks for reading. I hope I could help, and thanks again for the great posts here in the forum. If there were subcategories for Jakarta, I could also split up the report.
I may submit photos later. However, I still have to edit them extensively to protect the women's privacy (tattoos, faces, etc.).
LetMeIn6969
08-14-25, 22:41
Well, just received the price from her university, it's IDR 16,200,000 =) Grade A level indeed!
And she's already experienced with A-level encounters (wink).
Indeed, a good find, LetMeIn6969. (Claps).
If you stay on same samanhudi any hotel.
Even civie new to street will see many obat Cialis signs and know it is red light area.
Lost few dates before when l stayed near they refused to go this area from chat to meet.
If you doing only paid girls you can ignore.
Most girls would come to any hotel including Classic if you're staying there as a guest with a room. However, the Classic Hotel is better known as a brothel hotel than an actual hotel, so it might carry a certain stigma and would look like bringing sand to the beach, a better option might be to stay at nearby hotels like Yuan Garden, Heef, Grand G7 and have them come over there instead.
Was talking to local girl at bus stop.
She checked my number in getcontact app and it showed my name with tinder tags.
She told me all use that app to check scammers or add tags names so others can screen new number people.
The free version only shows few tags.
But names saved by others is visible.
If you stay longer Jakarta.
Try this app to screen or save bad experience phone number.
Excellent report. Some minor corrections / suggestions, if I may:
Terminal 2:
My first port of call was Terminal 2, where I arrived around 6:00 pm In retrospect, this was a very good time for me. The first women arrive at 1:00 pm, and the majority arrive around 3:00 pm, so you can go to T2 at 4:00 pm It was always most crowded between 6:00 and 8:00 pm Later, the gems were hard to find or already very tired. But that can certainly vary from day to day.
It opens at 2 pm. Majority of girls arrive later. Maybe around 5-6? I'm not sure, as I prefer to go earlier, even though there are much less girls.
I then booked a double for 500 k /60 min.
I thought so to the first time, but it's actually 90 minutes when you book two girls for 5 xxk. And also two shots, one for each.
After some fucking and filming, I unfortunately couldn't finish. Her pussy smelled very unpleasant. I asked her to clean herself thoroughly again, but it didn't get any better. The grip was very good: tight, warm, and very slimy and wet, very natural and not professional. Only the smell was unacceptable.
Not a MD, but: this is often caused by bacterial vaginosis, which is not a STD, but usually requires an antibiotic for the girl to remove and avoid more serious side-effects. Sometimes it goes away by itself though. I've met some girls (not in Indonesia) that were not aware they had it, and who I later informed that should go to the pharmacy and get some treatment for it. Next time I saw them they were fine.
Emporium:
Of course, the highly acclaimed Emporium was also a must. I remembered that condoms were mandatory there,
Only visited a handful of times, but was not required for me. As always, depends on you and the girl.
I was back at Terminal 2. I had previously written to another mamasan to express my wishes in detail. I told her that I would be there at 10 pm At 9:45 pm, she wrote to me that she would be waiting for me. I arrived a few minutes early. She introduced me to a beautiful, slim girl with a wonderful figure. I was immediately impressed. I was told to wait a little longer, she would be there soon. A good 20 minutes later, I was still waiting. So I went to Mamasan and asked what was going on. She told me that I would have to wait a little longer because she was already with another customer. That was a no-go for me. First being introduced and then waiting for someone who had just been fucked. I was quite upset and said that I was leaving.
Rather than leaving, you could have gone to another mamasan at the same T2. I believe the mamasans get a provision when you choose one of their girls, so choosing a girl from another mamasan would have give the provision to the other mamasan.
Perhaps I'm not the only one surprised that the mamasan did indeed come up with a girl that matched your requirements so well though.
I also like to take photos and, above all, videos of the women. With or without their consent, although I'm always discreet. Accordingly, I also have some homemade hardware with me. However, I don't want to share any technical details about it. Please don't ask, not even via private message.
Holy guacamole. Not only is this unethical, but it's highly illegal. In European countries, where I believe you come from, this is a very easy jailable offense. I'm trying not to get too judgemental, but this is just plain wrong, my friend, on so many levels. Those poor, naive, young girls, who are desperate for money, have no idea that you are secretly videoing them getting fucked. Your intentions may just be to accumulate wank-material, but if you lose your laptop / hardware, someone could get hold of those vids, and they could appear online.
Even in this murky world of pussies and punters, of hookers in hotels, of cocks inside cunts, there are certain boundaries.
Please think about what you are doing.
Asian Rain
08-15-25, 10:50
Had a bizarre experience at the end of the session where just as we were exiting the room, she called the housekeeping boy in and pointed to some red mark on the bedsheet. I think was her lipstick. They then forensically examined it before she went into the shower area and scrubbed it all off. Intended or not, both boys and girls will be leaking their bodily fluids on the bed. In all venues, I assume that the center mish spot on the bed has been sponging up enough gunk in its lifetime that the space would light up like the Las Vegas Strip under a blue light.
So whether in a brothel, a short time hotel or even my own hotel, I always lay out a folded bath towel in the sweet spot to ensure whatever remnants of the session don't end up directly on the bed sheet. When I check in to my own hotel, the first thing I will ask is for the room staff to bring me a couple extra towels. Since a heaping dollop of thick jizz will typically flow out from my creampie and would seep its way to the mattress while I am taking post-coital pics and vids, using a towel keeps things easily cleanable. Attached pics of one of my Kota Network talents to illustrate. Also this is particularly convenient to "reset" the bed for multiple sessions during the day. Just lay a new towel and the arena is fresh and clean for the next match play (and your next girl won't see telltale stains indicating she is the second or third provider of the day). Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.I had no issues at all in Jakarta as long as you are being respectful. Did not see any one rejecting and nothing felt unsafe while visiting alone.
I had no issues at all in Jakarta as long as you are being respectful. Did not see any one rejecting and nothing felt unsafe while visiting alone.Thanks, mate. Any recommendations for sometime with limited time? I prefer younger and slimmer girls.
Asian Rain
08-15-25, 15:56
This text was translated using DeepL, and I hope it is easy to read and understand.Congratulations on an absolute banger of a post. Fully readable. There are some other posters who should use DeepL as I have no clue what they are saying.
I am older, solidly built, but still reasonably attractive, and I like young, slim women between the ages of 18 and 22. I also don't like condoms; for me, only BBFS is the only option. I also like to take photos and, above all, videos of the women.With that description, you could be the twin brother I never had.
When you leave the hotel and turn right, there is a small supermarket that also has a BCA ATM. There you can choose between 100,000 and 50,000 rupees. Opposite the hotel, a little to the right, there is a larger BCA branch with six ATMs. Here, too, you can choose the denomination. I always chose 100,000 and 2. 4 million, sometimes twice in a row.One poster went on and on and on about ATM limitations. Thanks for confirming that 100 k notes are available in unlimited batches of 2. 4 million in that area.
First of all, I would like to add that I have used Michat from time to time. However, I was mainly offered videos there. I didn't like the women who were available to contact there.Another zonk report for MiChat. Seems very few can make MiChat deliver consistently without a lot of effort or some magic touch.
Since I also have a penchant for streetwalking girls, I didn't want to miss out on the Lokasari area.Thanks for posting your varied experiences at multiple venues. This is reality. The trick is always to get more bonk and less zonk wherever you go. IMHO you did pretty great for a fairly newbie guy, so you can hold your head high. I won't comment about any specifics except to say the next time you are coming to Jakarta, hit me with a PM and I will provide some tips on how to navigate the Lokasari scene for a more "filling" experience.
For me, Jakarta is one of the best places for prostitution. Are there comparable places in Indonesia or the Philippines?In my view, no. Jakarta is a one-off in Asia in terms of ticking the boxes that we need ticked. For the venturous, there are delightful rewards. As I have posted elsewhere, other destinations like Thailand and Philippines are generally designed to cater for foreigners. Indonesia is a local pie that we are allowed to dip our fingers (amongst other things).
I may submit photos later. However, I still have to edit them extensively to protect the women's privacy (tattoos, faces, etc.).Please do so with care, not only to protect the girl, but yourself as well. There are Ethics Police on this site as well as others that have no problem doing you dirty. They should be guarded against. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Intended or not, both boys and girls will be leaking their bodily fluids on the bed.
So whether in a brothel, a short time hotel or even my own hotel, I always lay out a folded bath towel in the sweet spot to ensure whatever remnants of the session don't end up directly on the bed sheet. When I check in to my own hotel, the first thing I will ask is for the room staff to bring me a couple extra towels.
Attached pics of one of my Kota Network talents to illustrate. Also this is particularly convenient to "reset" the bed for multiple sessions during the day. Just lay a new towel and the arena is fresh and clean for the next match play (and your next girl won't see telltale stains indicating she is the second or third provider of the day). Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Indeed AR, it's a good strategy to place the towel on bed before the wrestling (wink). I generally do that because of some past experiences with blood stains and other bodily fluids.
I always try to befriend the hotel staff (cleaning, security, etc.) so that they assist you promptly for reasonable requests such as extra towels, dental kits and shower caps (for the room visitors). Most of the girls take shower before and after the deed. So these extra towels are always handy.
I have even thought about carrying disposable bath towels with me in my sling bag for mongering outings; as I learnt that some love hotels or incall places may not have nice bed sheet or even towels. Maybe I am thinking too much.
On a side note, the Kota talent in the pics attached got a great bod. Nice find. Thanks for sharing, AR.
Cheers.
Di.
Hi Gents,
I have some clients coming from Canada that week. Can anyone recommends a higher end spa; massage; near SCBD area. They are of white and Arab backgrounds. But they want to be discreet so other people at their conference won't notice them. I have been to Fortune Spa near Ben Hill Sudirman Road. That seems like best option, but can feel weird with many gov cars in parking lots. What about spas in Dharmawangsa area? They seem a bit run down and more local.
Please suggestions?
Thanks very.
Intended or not, both boys and girls will be leaking their bodily fluids on the bed. In all venues, I assume that the center mish spot on the bed has been sponging up enough gunk in its lifetime that the space would light up like the Las Vegas Strip under a blue light.
Girls also know about this. One thai-friendly girl just left*. Said she had just started working again after a 5 month break, and warned me there would be some blood, would I be ok, etc. After showering she put the red towel (one of the first things I bought for this airbnb, as all bed stuff and towels are super white) on the bed herself.
Turned out to be a good thing because there was quite a bit of blood, so I'm not sure if she was lying and was instead finishing/starting her period. To be honest I'm quite sure it was the latter. Asked me after finishing again if I was ok, which was cute.
*You'd probably like her, so message if you want her details. Note: in Bangkok.
Hi all,
Need some help.
Will be in Jakarta next week. Will stay around Pondok Indah area (South Jakarta).
I plan some mongering when there and have lined up a few prospects already.
I am always a follower of safe sex and eveny BJ preference is CBJ. However, I would like to be extra cautious and would like to take doxy and HIV PEP. Any pointers on where I can get both without any requirements for prescription and identification from experienced bros in this group will be greatly appreciated.
TIA.
Bucu Travel
08-17-25, 13:43
Holy guacamole. Not only is this unethical, but it's highly illegal. In European countries, where I believe you come from, this is a very easy jailable offense. I'm trying not to get too judgemental, but this is just plain wrong, my friend, on so many levels. Those poor, naive, young girls, who are desperate for money, have no idea that you are secretly videoing them getting fucked. Your intentions may just be to accumulate wank-material, but if you lose your laptop / hardware, someone could get hold of those vids, and they could appear online.
Even in this murky world of pussies and punters, of hookers in hotels, of cocks inside cunts, there are certain boundaries.
Please think about what you are doing.Hello,
I can understand your opinion very well, but I'm also a little surprised. I don't believe that all the women in the photo gallery gave their consent for their photos to be published here in the forum, even if they were made unrecognizable. In terms of morality, too, we quickly enter an area that, in my opinion, has no place here. I have spoken to the girls a lot, many of them support their parents, some are paying off debts, one of them, for example, 5 million (€265), so I have considered paying off their debts. Unfortunately, this is not a solution in the long term.
Anyway. As you already suspected, my video recordings serve purely as masturbation material. They are stored on a heavily encrypted hard drive and the OS is also encrypted, so I will take the files with me to the grave. Preparing the photos in such a way that they still give you pleasure while also protecting the girl and the location requires some work, so I wrote that I would do that later. However, since the topic seems so highly sensitive, I will refrain from publishing them, at least for a sufficiently long period of time. Of course, most of the videos are illegal. But since I'm not harming anyone, I can live with that on my conscience. I have much more concerns about exploiting the wealth gap, but as I said, those are moral issues that, in my opinion, do not belong in the international sex guide forum. The important thing is that we treat decent girls very well.
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.Oh yeah, Jakarta is super dangerous for Indian men. Immigration officers are just waiting at the airport with handcuffs, ready to arrest you the moment they find out why you're visiting. And even if you somehow managed to come out, don't worry. An angry mob with pitchforks and torches will be right outside, waiting to chase you down. Definitely sounds like a trip worth avoiding.
Just kidding. Jakarta is very safe, people here are cool, you'll be fine. Spend a little time reading the forum and you'll see plenty of mongers sharing great experiences. You'll get the vibe pretty quickly.
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.I haven't seen many Indians myself here, but 2 of the girls told me that there are actually quite a few Indian customers at classic. They told me as well that Indians are one of the least favourite groups of customers. I asked the second girl for an explanation. She said that some Indian customers don't take no for an answer.
As long as you are not one of those guys: welcome and have fun!
I complained to the pimp about the relatively poor service. He promised me improvement for the next day.
I then sent her home with 300 k. The pimp received 400 k, but then demanded another 100 k in the lobby. That was definitely not agreed upon, but I also wanted to avoid a scene. Afterwards, he offered me more girls on WhatsApp. I deleted the chat and blocked him.
It's a shame, because if he had delivered properly, we would have done good business.
Shame indeed. I'll be staying not far from Lokasari on my coming visit (walking distance, if the area is walkable), so will check it out for the first time. I prefer to have a pretty girl arriving at my place in the night (even better, two so I can choose), rather than go around looking for her at that time. If the pimp you used had been somewhat honest, you could have recommended him here and he could have gotten daily business from me, and probably others too.
I'd think there would be some more honest pimps like that around, but most of us are probably not staying long enough to discover them.
Hi all,
Need some help.
Will be in Jakarta next week. Will stay around Pondok Indah area (South Jakarta).
I plan some mongering when there and have lined up a few prospects already.
I am always a follower of safe sex and eveny BJ preference is CBJ. However, I would like to be extra cautious and would like to take doxy and HIV PEP. Any pointers on where I can get both without any requirements for prescription and identification from experienced bros in this group will be greatly appreciated.
TIA.Head over to Apotek Roxy Mangga Besar mate, no questions asked whatsoever. In fact, I'd say try any Apotek Roxy in Jakarta.
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.Absolutely yes mate! I've regularly taken clients from India, Malaysia (Indian Malaysian), Arabs, Black American and Caucasian clients to many places in Jakarta and never had an issue. The only place you'd likely feel mild-ish racism in its most subtle form is those frequented by Chinese and Koreans. Sun City is one such place. Stick to Kota Indah bars, Classic, Emporium and Malio if you're pressed for time. If you want to delve into civvie / sb game then start hunting well before you arrive. TanTan, Tinder, Seeking and the usual dating apps have plenty of options.
Hi guy just some info about hotels in blok m. Stay away from hotel falethan I blok m it's not clean nor comfortable but it's right in the middle of action, I stayed there a few weeks ago not worth it. Try ambhara or fave hotel. Blok m Street action starts around 2 am.Thanks for the great advice! I ended up choosing red star hotel near travel hotel based on someone's report. Got in last night and am looking to hit the ground running today!
MickeyDuck1208
08-18-25, 09:12
Same demographic here. Have done the spas, bars, Tinder, Escort websites in Jakarta and Bali.
Treat the girls with respect, dress well, smell good, don't be cheap but haggle with respect. Thats all it takes.
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.
WhoCaresReally
08-18-25, 09:19
Just back from my 3rd trip to Jakarta. PM me for any info if needed. Happy to help!
Hey Folks,
I am an experienced and well-traveled Indian monger and have mongered in multiple countries. I am always respectful and don't have any of the personality traits that make my fellow countrymen disliked and infamous. I take great care of my personal hygiene and the way I dress.
I just wanted to understand if it would be safe and acceptable for a person like me to monger in Jakarta? I would be there on a short trip on my way to another country.
Thanks in advance.
Head over to Apotek Roxy Mangga Besar mate, no questions asked whatsoever. In fact, I'd say try any Apotek Roxy in Jakarta.Thanks mate.
Bucu Travel
08-18-25, 13:12
If the pimp you used had been somewhat honest, you could have recommended him here and he could have gotten daily business from me, and probably others too.I'm sure there are also good pimps there who can think a little further ahead than the next deal. So I can only warn you about the one I had. He was hanging around within sight of KFC Lokasari and stands out because he squints a lot. Unfortunately, I don't have a video of him 🤣.
Apart from that, I think the area is a good starting point for our hobby. Have fun!
Will be in Jakarta on business the first week of March next year and was considering staying a few days longer to sample the naughty boy haunts. But Ramadan doesn't end until March 19.
Will the big established places like Classic, Emporium, Malio and the Colloseum Club be closed? How about the cluster of spas and the like in the Kotah Indah area? Or will they be open, but with fewer girls on duty?
The additional cost to stay a few extra days in Jakarta is modest. So I'm leaning toward hanging around. But if the P4P scene will be totally shut down I'll come back another time.
Warm regards,
Bunky
I was staying in Classic hotel for a week & in the last day of my trip, I saw a T2 Mamasan bringing 5-6 (not exactly sure on the number) girls to a room for the person to choose and left with 3, so I think the guy in the room choose 2-3 girls.
Has anyone done this in Classic hotel, Any idea of the charges, I remember if we need to take to room from the T2 buffet it was 2 Mil for whole night but I thought we need to go to T2 and pick them up and not the mamasan bringing girls to the room. This happened around end of 11 PM. If this was a 2 Mil deal does anyone know if the girl leaves after 6 am or stay with you till 10 am.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-18-25, 17:41
Shame indeed. I'll be staying not far from Lokasari on my coming visit (walking distance, if the area is walkable), so will check it out for the first time. I prefer to have a pretty girl arriving at my place in the night (even better, two so I can choose), rather than go around looking for her at that time. If the pimp you used had been somewhat honest, you could have recommended him here and he could have gotten daily business from me, and probably others too.
I'd think there would be some more honest pimps like that around, but most of us are probably not staying long enough to discover them.I haven't found any of the pimps or mamasans around KFC Lokasri to be dishonest. Just annoying as fuck because every time they see you they come running up to try to sell you a girl. God forbid they get your WA number, they'll pester the shit out of you that way too.
Happy to be in Bali now.
Head over to Apotek Roxy Mangga Besar mate, no questions asked whatsoever. In fact, I'd say try any Apotek Roxy in Jakarta.Are you sure about HIV prep? I asked for it in Roxy the other day, but they said they didn't have it. They told me I would have to go to a special clinic to get it.
Will be in Jakarta on business the first week of March next year and was considering staying a few days longer to sample the naughty boy haunts. But Ramadan doesn't end until March 19.
Will the big established places like Classic, Emporium, Malio and the Colloseum Club be closed? How about the cluster of spas and the like in the Kotah Indah area? Or will they be open, but with fewer girls on duty?
The additional cost to stay a few extra days in Jakarta is modest. So I'm leaning toward hanging around. But if the P4P scene will be totally shut down I'll come back another time.
Warm regards,
Bunky
I was in Jakarta once during the middle of Ramadan (aka Raya Puasa), and it was fine despite my initial concerns, just a bit quieter with late start times at these establishments. Some places may close during the first and last three days during the beginning and end of Ramadan, as many girls travel to their hometowns to be with family. If you have the flexibility to extend your stay, it could be worthwhile, but otherwise I wouldn't worry too much. In fact, it might work in your favor since there will be less competition from locals and visitors during Ramadan.
Bucu Travel
08-18-25, 21:44
If this was a 2 Mil deal does anyone know if the girl leaves after 6 am or stay with you till 10 am.In my case, the mamasan left it up to me to decide when the girl would leave. I think that 8 or 9 o'clock is perfectly fine, maybe even later. I always let them leave early in the morning after good morning sex if they wanted to.
I was in Jakarta once during the middle of Ramadan (aka Raya Puasa), and it was fine despite my initial concerns, just a bit quieter with late start times at these establishments. Some places may close during the first and last three days during the beginning and end of Ramadan, as many girls travel to their hometowns to be with family. If you have the flexibility to extend your stay, it could be worthwhile, but otherwise I wouldn't worry too much. In fact, it might work in your favor since there will be less competition from locals and visitors during Ramadan.The best time to find pussy in Jakarta is the week or two leading up to Ramadan. Girls know returning home is going to be expensive and want to be able to afford the gifts expected of a well to do city girl.
Expect part timers and good girls to be much more open to receiving "support".
Unfortunately, the same can be said of Police so be careful on the roads.
G.
Will be in Jakarta on business the first week of March next year and was considering staying a few days longer to sample the naughty boy haunts. But Ramadan doesn't end until March 19.
Will the big established places like Classic, Emporium, Malio and the Colloseum Club be closed? How about the cluster of spas and the like in the Kotah Indah area? Or will they be open, but with fewer girls on duty?
I was in Jakarta once during the middle of Ramadan (aka Raya Puasa), and it was fine despite my initial concerns, just a bit quieter with late start times at these establishments. Some places may close during the first and last three days during the beginning and end of Ramadan, as many girls travel to their hometowns to be with family.I once visited Jakarta and Baii during the Ramadan month. I was able to enjoy my trip without any hassle. In Jakarta, explored the Classic, Sugar spa, Block M, and a civvy from Bado.
The best time to find pussy in Jakarta is the week or two leading up to Ramadan. Girls know returning home is going to be expensive and want to be able to afford the gifts expected of a well to do city girl.
Expect part timers and good girls to be much more open to receiving "support".
Goferring's strategy makes sense. During my interactions with ladies then, they all would go back to their hometowns to celebrate the festivities with their respective family. So they would strive to earn as much as possible. Some of them may return soon and some may not after the holidays.
Cheers.
HappyFarang
08-19-25, 14:25
I have been enjoying the simplicity of life in Ubud (Bali), but there seems to be very little happening in this island. I read the forum extensively and with the exception of some low quality action in Sanur, everything else seems to be too expensive. In terms of punting I have done literally nothing since I arrived.
In a couple of weeks I am flying to Jakarta. I am reading the forum and taking notes religiously, but in the meanwhile, could someone give me a heads-up.
- How much should I negotiate for a Tinder / Badoo / Bumble girl?
- What are some budget hotels that are girl friendly?
- Are there hotels that I can book for 1-2 hours?
- What am I expected to pay in the usual SPAs and massage places?
- Any other things I should know?
I plan on staying in Indonesia for months, so I am interested in having a couple of meets per week for reasonable prices. Maybe find a few regulars. Not interested in crazy expensive stuff. I am looking forward to contribute in here, so help me out as I start.
In a couple of weeks I am flying to Jakarta. I am reading the forum and taking notes religiously, but in the meanwhile, could someone give me a heads-up.
- How much should I negotiate for a Tinder / Badoo / Bumble girl?
- What are some budget hotels that are girl friendly?
- Are there hotels that I can book for 1-2 hours?
- What am I expected to pay in the usual SPAs and massage places?
- Any other things I should know?
I plan on staying in Indonesia for months, so I am interested in having a couple of meets per week for reasonable prices. Maybe find a few regulars. Not interested in crazy expensive stuff. I am looking forward to contribute in here, so help me out as I start. =).If you're in town for months and on a budget, I would be focussing on organic meets rather than online or bordello hook ups. Indo girls are extremely approachable, easy to talk to and convince to meet privately. There is a language barrier but once past the initial shyness they will work to overcome this. Try the mid level malls and be prepared to act on simple opportunities like lining up at McDonalds.
To answer your questions:
1/. Jakarta has an extremely wide span in pricing. There is no one set price. A good looking professional could easily be asking 2 or 3 jt* while a girl trying to make end meet will be fine with 3 to 500 k depending on the usual looks / age / service / time provided.
2/. You will struggle to find a non Sharia hotel that isn't girl friendly. You can safely assume that any one you do get will have guys meeting girls many times every day.
3/. Yes, Jakarta has short time hotels. You will often see 3 hour rates posted on digital signs out the front. There are many in Kota. Otherwise google is your friend.
4/. Again, prices vary wildly. Classic or Travel could see you pay 500 k all in while Malioboro can easily swallow several juta.
As I said, with months available, you are better off being flexible and acting spontaneously as opportunities present themselves. You will save money and meet more genuine girls who are very happy to please.
5/. Other things?? Just go an have some fun. Have a broad plan but don't over think things. Jakarta is not a place to expect military precision or minute by minute scheduled meet ups.
Enjoy. G.
*jt = juta = a million rupiah.
Are you sure about HIV prep? I asked for it in Roxy the other day, but they said they didn't have it. They told me I would have to go to a special clinic to get it.Well the trick is speak to the on-site doc (office hours only). They'll sort the prescription and then dispense or order for delivery to you (anything over 1 mil is free delivery and you can also order from whatsapp). I managed to get a cheeky Ceftriaxone jab at Mangga Besar Roxy earlier this year and claps cleared in a flash.
If that's a faff then Angsamerah in Menteng is another option. Its a clinic tho and quite competitively priced.
Bloodwork. The Mangga Besar Bio Medika's cheaper than Prodia.
Although for PrEP I am not 100% certain. I'll ask them later tonight when I'm there.
BTW, the pharmacists at Roxy aren't exactly Eton material so I'd skip brand names give them the salt name or you'll get the classic "Tidak Bisa" stare.
Ask for Truvada (TDF / FTC) or go generic:
Tenvir-them, Ricovir-them, Tenof-them, Tavin-them. All do the job.
Gaijin Gigolo
08-19-25, 19:41
I have been enjoying the simplicity of life in Ubud (Bali), but there seems to be very little happening in this island. I read the forum extensively and with the exception of some low quality action in Sanur, everything else seems to be too expensive. In terms of punting I have done literally nothing since I arrived.
In a couple of weeks I am flying to Jakarta. I am reading the forum and taking notes religiously, but in the meanwhile, could someone give me a heads-up.
- How much should I negotiate for a Tinder / Badoo / Bumble girl?
- What are some budget hotels that are girl friendly?
- Are there hotels that I can book for 1-2 hours?
- What am I expected to pay in the usual SPAs and massage places?
- Any other things I should know?
I plan on staying in Indonesia for months, so I am interested in having a couple of meets per week for reasonable prices. Maybe find a few regulars. Not interested in crazy expensive stuff. I am looking forward to contribute in here, so help me out as I start. =).Adding to what the esteemed Goferring suggested, consider the MiChat (not Wechat) app and it's very userful 'people nearby' room. Just show up with a decent picture and they'll contact you. You need to be on the ground though with a local sim or e-sim that includes an Indo phone number or it won't work.
Report back!
LetMeIn6969
08-19-25, 21:31
I'm thinking about renting a car and drive to Bali from Jakarta or via versa. Did anyone in here rent a car? I drove in Laos, Vietnam, Thailand so I know about the craziness of traffic.
I'm thinking about renting a car and drive to Bali from Jakarta or via versa. Did anyone in here rent a car? I drove in Laos, Vietnam, Thailand so I know about the craziness of traffic.Why?? Any cheap private rental is going to be a box of shit and likely to break down multiple times. A legitimate national / global rental company will charge you more than a car and driver day hire. Either way expect major push back for a one way hire across multiple provinces.
If you still have your own reasons, Jakarta has all the normal brands: Hertz, Avis etc.
G.
I'm thinking about renting a car and drive to Bali from Jakarta or via versa. Did anyone in here rent a car? I drove in Laos, Vietnam, Thailand so I know about the craziness of traffic.Yes! Not Bali to Jakarta but Jakarta. Sukabumi - Yogya and Banten.
Price and quality wise Trac Astra does the best deals and if I am not wrong some of the large international rental co's use them too. I'd got monthly deal on Toyota Rush (under 2 year old car) for just under 9 juta. Monthly works out cheaper just not sure if they'd do pickup at Bali and dropoff in Jakarta or vice versa. The only one to offer a no questions fully comprehensive insurance and has support branches all around Java. They offer drivers but that's no fun plus the added cost. Drivers are expected to sleep in cars and you only pay meals and overtime apart from the daily rate. For local in and around Jakarta works out cheaper with driver vs Grab / Gojek / SilverBird.
Totally recommend it's quite an experience thb. Try and do Surabaya - Semarang - Cirebon - Bandung its really beautiful. Avoid driving at nights.
Avoid Madura. Toll Roads are the safest and even otherwise most of Java is safe except Madura which everyone warned about so we skipped. Try and get off Toll Roads if you want the best views.
Get a sugar baby to join if you have time to hunt it would be more fun!
Have fun and be safe!
I was in Jakarta once during the middle of Ramadan and it was fine, just a bit quieter with later start times. Some places may close during the first and last three days, as many girls travel to their hometowns. If you have the flexibility to extend your stay, it could be worthwhile, but otherwise I wouldn't worry too much. In fact, it might work in your favor since there will be less competition from locals and visitors during Ramadan.Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. After reading the responses here on the ISG, plus the responses on other web sites, I've decided to add four nights to my itinerary. Lodging and food won't cost very much, and if I get lucky once or twice I'll declare victory and move on.
Bunky
HappyFarang
08-20-25, 06:27
If you're in town for months and on a budget, I would be focussing on organic meets rather than online or bordello hook ups. Indo girls are extremely approachable, easy to talk to and convince to meet privately. There is a language barrier but once past the initial shyness they will work to overcome this. Try the mid level malls and be prepared to act on simple opportunities like lining up at McDonalds.
To answer your questions:
1/. Jakarta has an extremely wide span in pricing. There is no one set price. A good looking professional could easily be asking 2 or 3 jt* while a girl trying to make end meet will be fine with 3 to 500 k depending on the usual looks / age / service / time provided.
2/. You will struggle to find a non Sharia hotel that isn't girl friendly. You can safely assume that any one you do get will have guys meeting girls many times every day.
3/. Yes, Jakarta has short time hotels. You will often see 3 hour rates posted on digital signs out the front. There are many in Kota. Otherwise google is your friend.
4/. Again, prices vary wildly. Classic or Travel could see you pay 500 k all in while Malioboro can easily swallow several juta..Thank you Goferring, that's great advice. I hadn't considered organically meeting local girls at all, that's a whole new adventure.
And while I try that, I wouldn't mind spending 500 k in Classic if that's really what it costs. It's very reasonable. Just for comparison, the closest thing in Bali would cost North of 1.5 juta if the forums are not lying.
I am also utterly relieved to learn that I don't have to stress about hotels.
Thanks man!
Adding to what the esteemed Goferring suggested, consider the MiChat (not Wechat) app and it's very userful 'people nearby' room. Just show up with a decent picture and they'll contact you. You need to be on the ground though with a local sim or e-sim that includes an Indo phone number or it won't work.
Report back!I will be reporting back as soon as something happens: probably nothing for the next 2 weeks while I'm still in Bali.
Organic meeting Jakarta.
At Goferring.
Could you share what malls worked best for you.
Some malls mix age of crowd vs some higher age like north Jakarta.
I was there KFC quick walking on side to avoid get my face if someone recording video like those on YouTube.
Maybe use one of those face masks covid made fashionable, if you worry about that? Doesn't look so strange anymore thanks to covid, and will perhaps let you have a more relaxed and slow paced walk.
I suspect soon, and probably already since several years for the right organizations, one will be able to enter Werqweq in the appropriate paid for service and get a link to all videos / photos ever made public where I appear, including any random youtube / instagram / tik-tok / whatever video.
Organic meeting Jakarta.
At Goferring.
Could you share what malls worked best for you.
Some malls mix age of crowd vs some higher age like north Jakarta.Google "Blok M Malls". Any of them. Pasaraya is a little higher end so you may not connect with shoppers but staff are fair game.
Decades ago, Malawi Plaza in Blok M was infamous for finding girls in KFC / McDo or having their hair done in the salon in the bottom, on shift change from working next door at the 6th floor / Maribaya.
You can do the same and google malls near where you are staying. If they have Prada and Fendi stores, give them a miss but if they are regular discount department stores, then go have a look.
G.
You can do the same and google malls near where you are staying. If they have Prada and Fendi stores, give them a miss
G.LOL. Funny.
Organic meeting Jakarta.
Could you share what malls worked best for you.
Google "Blok M Malls". Any of them.
In my last visit, I visited BloK M Square shopping mall. Was just killing time and waiting for one of the spas to open. Saw one bird gazing at her phone & having a juice at the food court which is located in the Lower ground level. I purchased some food from the nearby shop. Asked her do you mind if I joined. She knew basic English and Okayed. We talked for some time. She was working in one of the shops outside the mall. It was her break time. Got her local number.
Later in the evening, we chatted, but she started quoting 1 M including the transportation as she stayed in East Jakarta (at least that's what she said). I countered with 600 K at the max. The main reason I want to meet her is because she knows some English. So in a nutshell, I couldn't see her on that trip. But I second what Goferring suggested above. Happy and safe punting.
Cheers.
Asian Rain
08-21-25, 10:28
Could you share what malls worked best for you. Some malls mix age of crowd vs some higher age like north Jakarta.Back in the day, my go-to hunting ground was the Atrium Mall, which was reliable to pick up sweet talents in the early to late afternoon. It was very easy to walk around and most of the girls open to pickup would hang at the circular railing at the south end of the mall. From the 4th floor, there was a line of sight to the upper and lower floors, so everybody could look at everybody and it was obvious after lurking which girls were working as they were unaccompanied and just hanging at the railing. This was before Google Translate, so as a bule foreigner, negotiation was done discreetly through hand signals. Even with a few words, the girls would just follow me out to the taxi stand.
It was at Atrium that I met the girl who would become my girlfriend and Alpha Pimpette. We developed a mutually beneficial relationship and she brought me dozens and dozens of girls over my visits. Don't think I will ever come close to the fun we had. I know that Atrium became a lot more gentrifed, but given the location and setup, I (would like to) believe that there are still memories to be made there. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
HappyFarang
08-21-25, 12:11
A couple of quick questions:
- In Classic (or other hotels?) should I tip the girl after the deed? If so how much?
- Should I tip the mamasan after the meet? How much? Some posts made me believe that one should tip 50 k or 100 k.
I read that in T3 and T5 it's 365 k for one girl, which I assume would be rounded up to 400 k unless it's normal to ask for such small change. With the above mentioned tips, one encounter would end up costing 500-600 k.
Also there is an initial entry charge right? How much is it?
Gaijin Gigolo
08-21-25, 12:23
Back in the day, my go-to hunting ground was the Atrium Mall, which was reliable to pick up sweet talents in the early to late afternoon. It was very easy to walk around and most of the girls open to pickup would hang at the circular railing at the south end of the mall. From the 4th floor, there was a line of sight to the upper and lower floors, so everybody could look at everybody and it was obvious after lurking which girls were working as they were unaccompanied and just hanging at the railing. This was before Google Translate, so as a bule foreigner, negotiation was done discreetly through hand signals. Even with a few words, the girls would just follow me out to the taxi stand.
It was at Atrium that I met the girl who would become my girlfriend and Alpha Pimpette. We developed a mutually beneficial relationship and she brought me dozens and dozens of girls over my visits. Don't think I will ever come close to the fun we had. I know that Atrium became a lot more gentrifed, but given the location and setup, I (would like to) believe that there are still memories to be made there. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.My scene exactly. Do you happen to know if there's any mall action like that in Bali? I'm in Seminyak now and just beginning to explore here, Legian and Kuta.
A couple of quick questions:
- In Classic (or other hotels?) should I tip the girl after the deed? If so how much?
- Should I tip the mamasan after the meet? How much? Some posts made me believe that one should tip 50 k or 100 k.
I read that in T3 and T5 it's 365 k for one girl, which I assume would be rounded up to 400 k unless it's normal to ask for such small change. With the above mentioned tips, one encounter would end up costing 500-600 k.
Also there is an initial entry charge right? How much is it?Tip for the girl: - only tip her if she gives you good service. I'd had girls who promise kissing beforehand and then turn the cheek in the room. No tip. I've had girls give me no oral. No tip. Don't be embarrassed to use the phone to tell them that there service was not good, if that was indeed true. If I like the girl / service, I tip 100 K.
Tip for the mamis: fuck that. I've never tipped one. They're annoying see at nts who hassle you all the time. They earn money whenever someone takes ones of their girls.
Entry Charge: On T2 (it's on the 2nd floor), the minimum spend is 30 K IDR (about $2! I think it's similar in T5.
How to pay: when you choose the girl, tell mami that you will sign the voucher. This means you don't need to give mami the money and worry about getting the 35 K change back from 400 K (which I've always gotten back). It's easier if you sign vouchers for all your spend, and then at the end of the evening, go to the pay counter, and pay the whole lot in one go, using cash or card. I think there is a small surcharge for card, like 10 K, but it's so small, it's not worth worrying about.
Other advice: Just ignore the mami's. Walk around like you own the bar, and look at the 100+ girls seated on the sofas. If you like the look of a girl, smile, and ask her mami (or ask the girl directly) to come and talk to you. If the vibe is not good, tell her "terma kasih" and send her back. No pressure at all. If all is good, tell mami, you want to go to the room, and she'll fill in the paperwork.
Enjoy.
P.S- T5 opens at 6 pm, and has a much calmer vibe, with less smoke, more space, and is less frantic. Less girls too.
A couple of quick questions:
- In Classic (or other hotels?) should I tip the girl after the deed? If so how much?
- Should I tip the mamasan after the meet? How much? Some posts made me believe that one should tip 50 k or 100 k.
I read that in T3 and T5 it's 365 k for one girl, which I assume would be rounded up to 400 k unless it's normal to ask for such small change. With the above mentioned tips, one encounter would end up costing 500-600 k.
Also there is an initial entry charge right? How much is it?If you are from the US, you have to tip. It's in your blood.
If you are from Japan, you never tip.
If you tip mamasans, you also can tip the guard, the cleaner, the DJ.
Others only tip if the service was very much above excellence. Or, you got her phone number and she may come to your room later that night.
A couple of quick questions:
- In Classic (or other hotels?) should I tip the girl after the deed? If so how much?
- Should I tip the mamasan after the meet? How much? Some posts made me believe that one should tip 50 k or 100 k.
I read that in T3 and T5 it's 365 k for one girl, which I assume would be rounded up to 400 k unless it's normal to ask for such small change. With the above mentioned tips, one encounter would end up costing 500-600 k.
Also there is an initial entry charge right? How much is it?At Classic, they usually return 35 k in change stapled, which I normally give it to the Mamasan. For the girl, I tip 200 k for excellent service, 100 k for good, 50 k for average. The cover charge is 5 k if no drinks.
LoveItHere69
08-21-25, 16:49
If you tip mamasans, you also can tip the guard, the cleaner, the DJ.
I tipped 3 mamasans 50,000 when I left town because I took 10 girls from each of them last year.
I tipped 10,000 to each of the 9 room cleaners at Classic near the end of my stay. They have a dirty job to do and they saw me so much last year. They were surprised but really appreciated it.
In my last visit, I visited BloK M Square shopping mall. Was just killing time and waiting for one of the spas to open. Saw one bird gazing at her phone & having a juice at the food court which is located in the Lower ground level. I purchased some food from the nearby shop. Asked her do you mind if I joined. She knew basic English and Okayed. We talked for some time. She was working in one of the shops outside the mall. It was her break time. Got her local number.
Later in the evening, we chatted, but she started quoting 1 M including the transportation as she stayed in East Jakarta (at least that's what she said). I countered with 600 K at the max. The main reason I want to meet her is because she knows some English. So in a nutshell, I couldn't see her on that trip. But I second what Goferring suggested above. Happy and safe punting.
Cheers.A bit out of curiosity, though maybe it could be beneficial: why did she quote you any money at all? Is it because you tried to invite her directly to your room?
A couple of quick questions:
- In Classic (or other hotels?) should I tip the girl after the deed? If so how much?It is up to you but 50 k will suffice if she made you happy. Many of them will pout whether it's 20 k, 50 k or 100 k, but just ignore it they will immediately snap out of it.
- Should I tip the mamasan after the meet? How much? Some posts made me believe that one should tip 50 k or 100 k.Never, the mamasan gets a nice cut of that 365 k for doing nothing (not nothing but they don't have to have bareback sex with a sex tourist or becak driver) that's why they are so desperate for you to take a girl. I've never had a mamasan beg for money.
I read that in T3 and T5 it's 365 k for one girl, which I assume would be rounded up to 400 k unless it's normal to ask for such small change. With the above mentioned tips, one encounter would end up costing 500-600 k.I always wait for the change if paying up front. It's not such small change. I may use some of it to tip the girl afterwards (if I can pull the staple out). 365 k is not such a small amount for the quality of Classic girls, and given they start ringing the telephone after 40 minutes (I think they watch on camera).
Also there is an initial entry charge right? How much is it?The last time I went to T5 I walked in and out because the quality was terrible, it was 5 k entrance fee (might have been a Sunday night). T2 used to depend on the night but I'm sure it's 50 k most nights. I never look because I end up ordering a drinks which costs more than the cover charge (cover charge waived if you spend more than the cover charge).
Not so long I was in Classic the quality of girls was terrible, I have never seen it worse. Also, more foreigners than ever before. 7-8 years ago it seems like you would see one bule at most, sometimes none. Even a couple years ago there weren't a huge amount of white men, but more than 7-8 years ago. Whereas bule are everywhere now in Classic, and a lot of Chinese (they were there before anyway), I even saw a black in there with his black woman. Never seen that before. I would say 10 x the number of bule in Classic compared to pre-COVID.
It seems Jakarta is firmly on the sex tourism radar and it is distorting the quality of bottom of the market.
Later in the evening, we chatted, but she started quoting 1 M including the transportation as she stayed in East Jakarta (at least that's what she said). I countered with 600 K at the max. The main reason I want to meet her is because she knows some English. So in a nutshell, I couldn't see her on that trip.
Cheers.
A bit out of curiosity, though maybe it could be beneficial: why did she quote you any money at all? Is it because you tried to invite her directly to your room?Thanks for asking, Werqweq. During the conversation at the food court itself. I have told her I am visiting Jakarta for vacation. I even mentioned to her that we can hang out later. Then I asked her digits, which she gave promptly.
Later while chatting, she asked me where do I stay. I gave her the area name to which she said, its bit far from her place. I told her I can compensate taxi fare. Then she started quoting 1 M, I straightaway countered with 500 K and then later upped to 600 K at the max. But it didn't pan out. Hope this clears the curiosity (wink).
Cheers.
Thanks for asking, Werqweq. During the conversation at the food court itself. I have told her I am visiting Jakarta for vacation. I even mentioned to her that we can hang out later. Then I asked her digits, which she gave promptly.
Later while chatting, she asked me where do I stay. I gave her the area name to which she said, its bit far from her place. I told her I can compensate taxi fare. Then she started quoting 1 M, I straightaway countered with 500 K and then later upped to 600 K at the max. But it didn't pan out. Hope this clears the curiosity (wink).
Cheers.Okey. I don't know if it would have made any difference here, but I try to avoid putting myself in a position where I have to give her money for anything. Just as I don't give her money to pay for the coffee I'm treating her to at a nearby coffee shop (my second-most favourite place to meet new girls), I don't offer to give her any money for taxi either, though I don't mind treating her to that either (actually I prefer it, due to the salary discrepancy between me, though I'm not particularly well salaried, and the average young Jakarta girl. I don't want it to cost them anything to be fucked by me, and let them use my phone to book a taxi when going back too of course).
For girls/women who are a bit on the fence about whether they're whoring or not, the moment one starts talking about giving them money, for anything, they all too easily fall down on the wrong side of the fence, so to speak. She's thinking you will give her some money for something, so why not ask for some more money for something else too?
We will never know if it would have made any difference in this case, but when dealing with normal girls (unless it's obvious they are not, I assume everyone is a normal, non-p4p girl), instead of offering to give your girl money to pay for the taxi, I'd offer to book a taxi for her via the app on my own phone (grab, bolt, gojek, etc.). Let her take that step into explicit wh0redom of asking for money for sex, rather than for just a very expensive taxi ride, without any help from us.
It's obviously a bit more cumbersome figuring out her location, and sometimes we have to mess around for 10 minutes, sending screenshots of possible grab locations back and forth until I've found the correct one. If I can avoid tempting an on-the-fence girl into a p4p-girl, it's worth it for me however, because it give me much more pleasure to lay in bed with a girl I'm not paying, though I see others here differ. (And no, I'm not a believer in that idiot-cliche that all women are wh0res, and some way or the other, we are always paying for the sex.).
LetMeIn6969
08-21-25, 19:08
I followed Classic Bunker on IG and texted them on WhatsApp. They wanted 50% deposit up front and their girls are outcall only. I think they're not affiliate with Classic Hotel ground floor bar at all. Did anyone have any experiences dealing with them through IG or WhatsApp?
Nuttin Serious
08-21-25, 23:50
A couple of quick questions:
- In Classic (or other hotels?) should I tip the girl after the deed? If so how much?
- Should I tip the mamasan after the meet? How much? Some posts made me believe that one should tip 50 k or 100 k.
I read that in T3 and T5 it's 365 k for one girl, which I assume would be rounded up to 400 k unless it's normal to ask for such small change. With the above mentioned tips, one encounter would end up costing 500-600 k.
Also there is an initial entry charge right? How much is it?100 k - "a red one" is what the locals say in the groups I'm in, and what I've tipped for normal decent service. Tipping is normal and expected, the cut the girl gets from the regular fee is promptly taxed back off her at the end of the month tally up as part of the debt trap. If exceptional / you want to see her again then you can give a bit more, given the number of Singapore / Malay chinese who go to Jakrta and spend up you're not distorting any market bu tipping more, just upsetting grouchy pensioners trying to clutch every nickel and dime.
They will almost always pass you your change back if you pay cash, and 365 k usually means 35 k in change from large notes. So up to you what you do with it. I usually promptly pass it to mama with a smile (its $2. TWO FUCKING DOLLARS FFS!) as that tends to help the general vibe. But the couple of times mama is a right cow I've pointedly pocketed the change in front of her.
If you take 2 girls both expect tips, yes.
Photo of a girls monthly earnings. After working for a month she owes them 90 k after accomodation and 'admin' charges.
Photo of a girls monthly earnings. After working for a month she owes them 90 k after accomodation and 'admin' charges.Jeeez, 2. 3 jt for a kos? Give me a million and she can stay at my place. 🤪.
What's Kampung?? Was she given an advance to pulang kampung / go home to the village?
Actually she reduced her debt from 240 k to 90 k so a month's fucking for $10.
I don't see any food, hair, makeup etc so she's probably borrowed more for those.
G.
Just returned from my mid-year trip to Jakarta and my visit to Blok M. Not much happening in this area. Now down to 1 place. My Bar. Not as it used to be. Basically on Friday.
And Saturday are there some personnel. I don't usually visit the massage places as stated in the forum it's usually bad service.
I do stay in the Gajah Mada area so I did use the Ojek guys for connection and I did find a stunner among the choices. Good service good attitude but a bit rushed.
There are some walkers on Gajah Mada near the McDonalds but due to street construction not a lot.
Although I was close to Travel Hotel I didn't visit. Did meet another forum person and went to Kota area. Lots of bars with some 8/9 in these places. So it's worth a try.Jakarta can be boring during daytimes, especially if you're staying in the north. However, Blok M is lively with its mall, food stalls, coffee and juice shops, massage spots, outdoor music, and movie theatres, plenty of fish. It almost reminded me of being in Latin America. On my last trip, even though I had a hotel in Central Jakarta, I booked a room in Blok M for two nights over the weekend (Hotel M, Sotis Falatehan) just to enjoy the local vibe in and around the area. If you want to go north, you can take the Metro from Blok M to Mangga Besar and then Grab visit the bars.
Okey. I don't know if it would have made any difference here, but I try to avoid putting myself in a position where I have to give her money for anything. Just as I don't give her money to pay for the coffee I'm treating her to at a nearby coffee shop (my second-most favourite place to meet new girls), I don't offer to give her any money for taxi either, though I don't mind treating her to that either (actually I prefer it, due to the salary discrepancy between me, though I'm not particularly well salaried, and the average young Jakarta girl. I don't want it to cost them anything to be fucked by me, and let them use my phone to book a taxi when going back too of course).
For girls/women who are a bit on the fence about whether they're whoring or not, the moment one starts talking about giving them money, for anything, they all too easily fall down on the wrong side of the fence, so to speak. She's thinking you will give her some money for something, so why not ask for some more money for something else too?
We will never know if it would have made any difference in this case, but when dealing with normal girls (unless it's obvious they are not, I assume everyone is a normal, non-p4p girl), instead of offering to give your girl money to pay for the taxi, I'd offer to book a taxi for her via the app on my own phone (grab, bolt, gojek, etc.). Let her take that step into explicit wh0redom of asking for money for sex, rather than for just a very expensive taxi ride, without any help from us.
It's obviously a bit more cumbersome figuring out her location, and sometimes we have to mess around for 10 minutes, sending screenshots of possible grab locations back and forth until I've found the correct one. If I can avoid tempting an on-the-fence girl into a p4p-girl, it's worth it for me however, because it give me much more pleasure to lay in bed with a girl I'm not paying, though I see others here differ. (And no, I'm not a believer in that idiot-cliche that all women are wh0res, and some way or the other, we are always paying for the sex.).Everyone has different likes, needs and strategies. One's recommendation or preference may not suit others. BTW 'she' is not a civvy. Thanks for sharing your views. Cheers and happy punting.
Also, more foreigners than ever before. 7-8 years ago it seems like you would see one bule at most, sometimes none. Even a couple years ago there weren't a huge amount of white men, but more than 7-8 years ago. Whereas bule are everywhere now in Classic, and a lot of Chinese (they were there before anyway), I even saw a black in there with his black woman. Never seen that before. I would say 10 x the number of bule in Classic compared to pre-COVID.
It seems Jakarta is firmly on the sex tourism radar and it is distorting the quality of bottom of the market.Bule everywhere?
Distorting the quality?
Please explain, if you dare to.
Jakarta can be boring during daytimes, especially if you're staying in the north. However, Blok M is lively with its mall, food stalls, coffee and juice shops, massage spots, outdoor music, and movie theatres, plenty of fish. It almost reminded me of being in Latin America. On my last trip, even though I had a hotel in Central Jakarta, I booked a room in Blok M for two nights over the weekend (Hotel M, Sotis Falatehan) just to enjoy the local vibe in and around the area. If you want to go north, you can take the Metro from Blok M to Mangga Besar and then Grab visit the bars.The metro ends at the bundaran.
Bule everywhere?
Distorting the quality?
Please explain, if you dare to.It is changing the dynamic as Classic becomes more well known. Many more hardened prostitutes, more fat bellies, and average age seems higher than pre-COVID.
More sex tourists, quality declines and / or prices rise. We see this everywhere whether Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines.
Classic has a ceiling of 365 k on what each girl costs and is it 100 k they can earn plus tip, so naturally quality declines over time. Classic was never great, but now it Classic attracts the real bottom of the barrel.
Also, there seems more girls now from outside Java. One from Sumatra, several from east Indonesia just in my small sample size. I don't remember this in the past. Maybe recruitment has become more challenging. Fast forward to 2030 maybe we will see Papuan women in Classic.
Jakarta can be boring during daytimes, especially if you're staying in the north. However, Blok M is lively with its mall, food stalls, coffee and juice shops, massage spots, outdoor music, and movie theatres, plenty of fish. It almost reminded me of being in Latin America. On my last trip, even though I had a hotel in Central Jakarta, I booked a room in Blok M for two nights over the weekend (Hotel M, Sotis Falatehan) just to enjoy the local vibe in and around the area. If you want to go north, you can take the Metro from Blok M to Mangga Besar and then Grab visit the bars.This sounds like a great idea, North Jakarta is really a dump. But why does the Metro from block M to Jakarta Kota take one hour? Is Jakarta so big or is the metro really slow?
In Jakarta most girls even with ok job civies look will ask money for kid rent etc mu experience.
The referrals you got all are paid?
How did it work for you ask for her friends or other girls open to meet you and share pictures.
Curious about referrals some paid or all paid girls.
Thanks.
Definitely different experiences better GFE than those active hunting for customers.
Edit Asian rain user
It was at Atrium that I met the girl who would become my girlfriend and Alpha Pimpette. We developed a mutually beneficial relationship and she brought me dozens and dozens of girls over my visits. Don't think I will ever come close to the fun we had. I know that Atrium became a lot more gentrifed, but given the location and setup, I (would like to) believe that there are still memories to be made there. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
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It is changing the dynamic as Classic becomes more well known. Many more hardened prostitutes, more fat bellies, and average age seems higher than pre-COVID.
More sex tourists, quality declines and / or prices rise. We see this everywhere whether Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines.
Classic has a ceiling of 365 k on what each girl costs and is it 100 k they can earn plus tip, so naturally quality declines over time. Classic was never great, but now it Classic attracts the real bottom of the barrel.
Also, there seems more girls now from outside Java. One from Sumatra, several from east Indonesia just in my small sample size. I don't remember this in the past. Maybe recruitment has become more challenging. Fast forward to 2030 maybe we will see Papuan women in Classic.And you blame the bule for the decrease of quality? (not logic but racist).
You simply have an increase of income over the past years also in Indonesia. Many more guys from all Asian countries are ready to pay higher rates. Chinese / Taiwanese are meanwhile the big spenders. In addition, young girls have nowadays other options than to fuck old men. There are more girls in university in Jakarta then guys!
Ohh. And Papuan women are dangerous (if you ever been there, then you know what I mean).
HappyFarang
08-23-25, 07:17
Thanks for the advice, now I have a clear idea of how much I should tip a girl.
They will almost always pass you your change back if you pay cash, and 365 k usually means 35 k in change from large notes. So up to you what you do with it. I usually promptly pass it to mama with a smile (its $2. TWO FUCKING DOLLARS FFS!) as that tends to help the general vibe. But the couple of times mama is a right cow I've pointedly pocketed the change in front of her.
At Classic, they usually return 35 k in change stapled, which I normally give it to the Mamasan. For the girl, I tip 200 k for excellent service, 100 k for good, 50 k for average. The cover charge is 5 k if no drinks.If not handing the 35 k to the mamasan is going to negatively affect my experience, then definitely I would tip her with it. It's a no brainer. BTW is it "mamisan" and not "mamasan"?
Tip for the mamis: fuck that. I've never tipped one. They're annoying see at nts who hassle you all the time. They earn money whenever someone takes ones of their girls.
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How to pay: when you choose the girl, tell mami that you will sign the voucher.Funny how opinions can be so diametrically the opposite.
Good to know about the voucher!
If you are from the US, you have to tip. It's in your blood.
If you are from Japan, you never tip.
If you tip mamasans, you also can tip the guard, the cleaner, the DJ.
Others only tip if the service was very much above excellence. Or, you got her phone number and she may come to your room later that night.Of course I didn't mean that. I think tipping left and right could be seen as rude. I should only tip when I am benefitting from someone.
Not so long I was in Classic the quality of girls was terrible, I have never seen it worse. Also, more foreigners than ever before. 7-8 years ago it seems like you would see one bule at most, sometimes none. Even a couple years ago there weren't a huge amount of white men, but more than 7-8 years ago. Whereas bule are everywhere now in Classic, and a lot of Chinese (they were there before anyway), I even saw a black in there with his black woman. Never seen that before. I would say 10 x the number of bule in Classic compared to pre-COVID.
It seems Jakarta is firmly on the sex tourism radar and it is distorting the quality of bottom of the market.Sad. Hopefully I'll have a taste of it before the place is completely transformed.
Back in the day, my go-to hunting ground was the Atrium Mall, which was reliable to pick up sweet talents in the early to late afternoon. It was very easy to walk around and most of the girls open to pickup would hang at the circular railing at the south end of the mall. From the 4th floor, there was a line of sight to the upper and lower floors, so everybody could look at everybody and it was obvious after lurking which girls were working as they were unaccompanied and just hanging at the railing. Is it Atrium Mall Kelapa Gading 4? There are some other Atrium malls when I search on google map.
This sounds like a great idea, North Jakarta is really a dump. But why does the Metro from block M to Jakarta Kota take one hour? Is Jakarta so big or is the metro really slow?Jakara metro consists of MRT, LRT, Commuter Line, Bus. Jakarta's MRT is still a bit messy due to ongoing construction, they are investing in the infrastructure to make them better and faster. The MRT line runs from Lebak Bulus in the south to Bundaran in the north. If you board at Blok M, you will ride to Bundaran and then transfer to the Commuter Blue Line to reach Jakarta Kota, Mangga Besar. Wait times, transfer times, they all add up.
HappyFarang
08-25-25, 03:07
Where can I withdraw cash in Jakarta? I'd like to be able to withdraw decent amounts, at least 2 M, in 100 k or 50 k notes.
Now that I think about it, 50 k is probably more versatile.
I have a Wise card, which means I have IDR in my account which I can withdraw (and pay) directly without any fees. You should get Wise if you don't have it.
I also use Wise on Grab and Gojek and only the exact amount is being taken.
I followed Classic Bunker on IG and texted them on WhatsApp. They wanted 50% deposit up front and their girls are outcall only. I think they're not affiliate with Classic Hotel ground floor bar at all. Did anyone have any experiences dealing with them through IG or WhatsApp?I'd asked a couple mami's in Bunker about this and they had no idea. The pics on their insta are too good to be true and heavily photoshopped.
Where can I withdraw cash in Jakarta? I'd like to be able to withdraw decent amounts, at least 2 M, in 100 k or 50 k notes.
Now that I think about it, 50 k is probably more versatile.
I have a Wise card, which means I have IDR in my account which I can withdraw (and pay) directly without any fees. You should get Wise if you don't have it.
I also use Wise on Grab and Gojek and only the exact amount is being taken.Any BCA ATM works well. Indomaret has them. Wise doesn't seem to work in BNI tho.
Where can I withdraw cash in Jakarta? I'd like to be able to withdraw decent amounts, at least 2 M, in 100 k or 50 k notes.
Now that I think about it, 50 k is probably more versatile.
I have a Wise card, which means I have IDR in my account which I can withdraw (and pay) directly without any fees. You should get Wise if you don't have it.
I also use Wise on Grab and Gojek and only the exact amount is being taken.That's because the FX fee was charged by Wise when you transferred to your IDR account.
AFAIK, N26 is better than Wise for this. Wise still has a fx fee, though much smaller than almost any other card (except some USA ones, which I can't get), while N26 does not.
I tested once to verify this by paying twice within the same one (possibly, two) hours. Once with N26, once with Wise, and N26 came out cheaper. Since then, I'm always using N26 over Wise when paying.
Anyone know different, I'd like to hear it.
Expat American
08-25-25, 08:16
That's because the FX fee was charged by Wise when you transferred to your IDR account.
AFAIK, N26 is better than Wise for this. Wise still has a fx fee, though much smaller than almost any other card (except some USA ones, which I can't get), while N26 does not.
I tested once to verify this by paying twice within the same one (possibly, two) hours. Once with N26, once with Wise, and N26 came out cheaper. Since then, I'm always using N26 over Wise when paying.
Anyone know different, I'd like to hear it.I use my Chase ATM card and get pretty good rates. But mostly I just use my Chase Sapphire Reserve Visa card, get great FX rates and points as well. Cash needed only for tips etc. The only exception is non pro / SB girls that I pay in cash. The Maybank ATM near the Novotel is the best for larger draws, it gives 3 M in 100 K notes.
First time visitor to Indonesia. Will be arriving on an Air Asia flight from Bangkok. Carrying an American passport and entering on an Electronic Visa on Arrival (e-VOA).
Should I expect a search of any kind? Or will the customs checkpoint operate like the one at BKK where the overwhelming majority of passengers are waived through?
If there is a search, what form does it take? X-ray screening? Or "open your suitcase sir?
I realize Indonesia is a secular republic with a constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion, but I don't want to run afoul of the local sensibilities. Won't be carrying any, them, er, "adult" material. No imagery, toys, tobacco or liquor. Are there any other items that will irritate the inspector that I might not be aware of?
DIGITAL DEVICES: Should I expect a search of my phone and / or laptop? Will I be compelled to unlock those devices?
PRESCRIPTION MEDS: I'm on a typical Old Guy Regimen: statin, anti-hypertensive, plus a couple of meds for a-fib. It's much cheaper for me to buy those meds from online pharmacies (or at pharmacies in Thailand) than buy them at my local chemist. The meds are in blister packs vice personalized bottles. Would that be a problem with Indonesian customs?
Are there any other items that will irritate the inspector that I might not be aware of?
DIGITAL DEVICES: Should I expect a search of my phone Drugs. Many that are socially acceptable or legal are not in Indonesia. Penalties for, to us, trivial amounts are extremely stiff. Recreational drugs are a total no go. Prescribed drugs should be researched before coming. Valium, ADHD or mental health meds are often banned even with a valid prescription. I don't know about individual hypertension meds but check first.
No need to be paranoid but do your homework if these apply to you.
99.99% of travellers walk through without a data search. You will too if your past hasn't put you on a alert list.
LetMeIn6969
08-25-25, 20:39
Last time I brought vibrators and butt plugs, they went through Xray without problems. Prescription drugs went through without problems. Nobody searched my phones. If you insist on carrying in "sensitive" stuffs, keep them on your body, they don't search your body unless you give them a reason.
I realize Indonesia is a secular republic with a constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion, but I don't want to run afoul of the local sensibilities. Won't be carrying any, them, er, "adult" material. No imagery, toys, tobacco or liquor. Are there any other items that will irritate the inspector that I might not be aware of?
DIGITAL DEVICES: Should I expect a search of my phone and / or laptop? Will I be compelled to unlock those devices?
PRESCRIPTION MEDS: I'm on a typical Old Guy Regimen: statin, anti-hypertensive, plus a couple of meds for a-fib. It's much cheaper for me to buy those meds from online pharmacies (or at pharmacies in Thailand) than buy them at my local chemist. The meds are in blister packs vice personalized bottles. Would that be a problem with Indonesian customs?
Asian Rain
08-26-25, 04:03
Is it Atrium Mall Kelapa Gading 4? There are some other Atrium malls when I search on google map.Mal Atrium Senen (https://maps.app.goo.gl/yffzK9MGBXiFbNQS6). There are some pics of the circular area on Google Maps. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
AmericanPi
08-26-25, 04:05
Last time I brought vibrators and butt plugs, they went through Xray without problems. Prescription drugs went through without problems. Nobody searched my phones. If you insist on carrying in "sensitive" stuffs, keep them on your body, they don't search your body unless you give them a reason.This is one of the largest cities in the world. Trust me, the government does not want to be known as morality police enforcement at the border. They need business people to want to go there.
Asian Rain
08-26-25, 04:19
The referrals you got all are paid?
How did it work for you ask for her friends or other girls open to meet you and share pictures.All paid.
All I do is ask if they have friends that might like to play with me. Most say yes. So I tell them to send pics to my WhatsApp. If I like what I see, then I tell them to bring me the girl and that I will pay the same base fee. I will always tip the referring girl (aka pimpette) for the effort. I will always pay the working girl the base fee for her effort and a tip for good behavior. I know the working girl will have to give the pimpette some cut of the base fee, but I stay out of that situation as that arrangement is between the girls. If you play the game correctly, you can be on your way to building a private network in just 3 to 4 days. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Hi, after posting first part in Bandung, I will continue here.
With Tinder Gold in Jakarta your phone will not stop chiming for one second, but that does not mean I recommend this route. It is just what I tried. The "free tonight" gave me plenty of options, but then you have to sift through those who are in a reasonable distance from your hotel, who are not obvious scams (deposit, uang for mamasan, uang keamanan. Like a bouncers fee, but in fact a scam) and who are withing your budget. Then you have to coordinate with her taxi, go down for the lobby and do the walk of shame picking up the girl. It takes time which I did not have much of. Just out of curiosity trying some other side of the game, I got things narrowed down to two 600 k options (asked around 1 jt upfront, but came to basically half price after one question).
The lady that arrived had nice slender and still firm body, not much make-up and fake-colored contact lenses, which I hate but got used to them after a while. Turned out she was a real-life cop. I almost died on the spot. But she also liked sex. Was specifically hunting bules on Tinder. Not as a source of income, but having fun and getting extra money for perks above her state-issued pay. Did I believe her. Not important. The vibe was very different from typical working girl. I got some lessons about Mangga Dua and MiChat game. But she preferred Tinder. Better money and "white man on Tinder and clean and nice". Wow. We talked for like two hours, she was evidently waiting for my move and she was also super shy when I was undressing her with my eyes.
It almost became awkward but then I remembered advice from the Orange man - "grab them by the pussy". So we moved from talking in chairs into bed, she kept smiling and asking What, What, What but then I did what the suggested and she melted, all awkwardness for away, she started moaning, soaking and in the end I was rewarded with pure GFE. One caveat. I did not have any condoms on me and she did not bring any. Little I knew this is a new trend in Indonesia and the one that makes me feel uneasy. Anyway, we were two far and two deep to refrain from sex so I did the stupid and irresponsible thing and we fucked. That was after she almost cut of my fingers with her squirty squeezing pussy spasms she got from my licking. With CIM / CIF finish this was the best sex I had in Indo in years. But then the condomless remorse kicked in. She told me not to worry, that everyone at their cop unit is regularly tested (I can't believe what I am writing, it sound so surreal now) and that they gave them some anti-HIV pills which apparently are a thing now.
After sex we talked again, in fact I just could not wait for her to leave so I can get some sleep. I did not want to kick her out and be rude. Tipped her another 100 k and gave another 50 for taxi, everything amicable. She told me to get back in touch when I return to Jakarta. I might. Or I would have considered it, this time armed with my own condoms, however I lost the number so.
Second night I was frankly tired and did not feel like I have time for another Tinder hunt. Just went to T2. Tried and tested. Spotted some nice girls but they would not go with white man no matter what. Drunk boys are giving us, honest gentle hunters a very bad rap. So no, quality of the girls, at least for the night I was in there, was not declining. But it was obvious the atmosphere was different. What apparently declined was the quality of the (white) guests. It takes just few drunk Russians or Ozzies (I don't mean to be racists, please take no offense but you know what I mean) and the word spreads quickly. I was on the verge of leaving when a tiny 19 year old just with the bra and short skirt bumped my shoulder as if by accident. She was with a friend but I had "3 some" in Terminal before if you can call it that and it was horror (story for another day, not recommended). Luckily, she did not insist like they usually do and happily took me alone. Short, tiny but with decent cups, giggly and with firm skin everywhere, she was a treat to look at. But this is Terminal and you get what you are paying for. I don't even remember if the blowjob was covered or not, but it sure felt that way regardless. 2 position sex (cow girl, missionary) and after little over 30 minutes including pre and post showers the deed was done. Prescribed experience, but I must say her attitude was actually quite good, just followed standard procedures of the place and no kissing, no DATY.
I have a question for fellow hunters: is Malioboro still a thing. And what happened to striptease shows. Still banned after the crackdown years ago? One would think they would chill out a bit. All I saw while I was there was loud music and some very bad dancing in clothes, it was pain to the ears as well as to the eyes. Not like this is a new thing, but we remember better days, don't we?
All paid.
All I do is ask if they have friends that might like to play with me. Most say yes. So I tell them to send pics to my WhatsApp. If I like what I see, then I tell them to bring me the girl and that I will pay the same base fee. I will always tip the referring girl (aka pimpette) for the effort. I will always pay the working girl the base fee for her effort and a tip for good behavior. I know the working girl will have to give the pimpette some cut of the base fee, but I stay out of that situation as that arrangement is between the girls. If you play the game correctly, you can be on your way to building a private network in just 3 to 4 days. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Interesting AR. Can I politely ask. What's the advantage of doing it this way, as opposed to say, going to Classic or the KI bars, and actually seeing the girls in the flesh and talking with them to gauge their receptiveness? I find photos can be very misleading. It's possible to build a network of girls who give good service from Classic / KI, and have them come to your hotel / apt on their off day, on a private arrangement. I have numerous girls on the go like this.
Not questioning your choice, just genuinely curious.
First time visitor to Indonesia. Will be arriving on an Air Asia flight from Bangkok. Carrying an American passport and entering on an Electronic Visa on Arrival (e-VOA).
Should I expect a search of any kind? Or will the customs checkpoint operate like the one at BKK where the overwhelming majority of passengers are waived through?
If there is a search, what form does it take? X-ray screening? Or "open your suitcase sir?
I realize Indonesia is a secular republic with a constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion, but I don't want to run afoul of the local sensibilities. Won't be carrying any, them, er, "adult" material. No imagery, toys, tobacco or liquor. Are there any other items that will irritate the inspector that I might not be aware of?
DIGITAL DEVICES: Should I expect a search of my phone and / or laptop? Will I be compelled to unlock those devices?
PRESCRIPTION MEDS: I'm on a typical Old Guy Regimen: statin, anti-hypertensive, plus a couple of meds for a-fib. It's much cheaper for me to buy those meds from online pharmacies (or at pharmacies in Thailand) than buy them at my local chemist. The meds are in blister packs vice personalized bottles. Would that be a problem with Indonesian customs?Never had any issues getting into Jakarta. Been over 14 times now. Travelled with everything from health supplements to ADHD meds (Ritalin), antibiotics, PrEP, and a whole shelf's worth of prescriptions. Not even a raised eyebrow. A mate once walked through from Bangkok with 12 grams of premium sativa tucked into his eyeglass case. Absolute breeze. I just throw everything in hand luggage.
Drugs? Personally, wouldn't bother bringing them in. You can get pretty much anything locally. Weed's average, but coke, crystal, ket, hash, heroin, ecstasy, poppers, Happy5 are all within reach if you know who to ask. Still haven't come across blotters though. Karaoke rooms are pure madness. What these locals get up to behind closed doors would make Amsterdam blush. One chic kissed me so deep I briefly saw my childhood.
If you're flying AirAsia, you'll come in through Terminal 2, which is hands down the most relaxed airport I've ever seen. The staff look more concerned about their whatsapp chat than your suitcase.
And the devices? This isn't the UK or the US, where airport security acts like you're smuggling state secrets and insists on a full digital search plus a complimentary prostate exam. No one's bothered here. Unless you're carrying something truly outrageous, you're in and out. Still, good practice to back up to iCloud, bring a cleanish phone, and keep it moving.
Honestly, Western airports could do with taking the stick out. Or at least stop using it for cavity searches.
After being flaked on by a sugar baby at the last minute, around 9 pm Thursday last week decided to revisit The Pool at the 1001 Hotel after my first visit left me a bit underwhelmed. It was quite quiet and didn't have much atmosphere. This time, however, it was a very different experience, and I quite enjoyed it.
First things first, the venue is impressive far more polished than Malio, which I've been to several times.
Over a 100 dressed in elegant evening dress seated across the room. There was a warm pool with private huts, ideal for relaxing in more intimate company definitely better than the pool at emporium!
The quality this time was significantly high, with many easily scoring 8 or above, and a few even 9. Prices comparable to Malio about 1. 6 million IDR before tips and there's also an international selection priced around 3. 3 million IDR had Vietnamese, Loas, Thai and Uzbeks masquerading as Russians. I chose a petite teen (19 as per Mami but in room she said she was 18 easily looked much younger) long hair and full lips and perky tits (name was Kila) on the mami's recommendation, had a drink with her in the lounge, and then we moved to a private room which is by far the best in comparison to other similar joints in Jakarta.
My total spend, including tips, was about 2. 5 million IDR including drinks, tips etc.
For sure, higher end compared to other places in Jakarta, but it feels like the most luxurious option in its category. If you're willing to spend, or want to impress / entertain clients it's worth a visit. I'll definitely be returning to 1001 but not anytime soon as theres just so much to explore here in Jakarta.
Expat American
08-26-25, 07:40
After being flaked on by a sugar baby at the last minute, around 9 pm Thursday last week decided to revisit The Pool at the 1001 Hotel after my first visit left me a bit underwhelmed. It was quite quiet and didn't have much atmosphere. This time, however, it was a very different experience, and I quite enjoyed it.
.How was the service level? Many have reported all covered (including CBJ) is standard there.
Never had any issues getting into Jakarta. Been over 14 times now. Travelled with everything from health supplements to ADHD meds (Ritalin), antibiotics, PrEP, and a whole shelf's worth of prescriptions. Not even a raised eyebrow. A mate once walked through from Bangkok with 12 grams of premium sativa tucked into his eyeglass case. Absolute breeze. I just throw everything in hand luggage.
But were you ever stopped and searched? If not, you might as well say you traveled with your hand luggage full of heroin half the times, and cocaine the other half, and nary a problem.
After being flaked on by a sugar baby at the last minute, around 9 pm Thursday last week decided to revisit The Pool at the 1001 Hotel after my first visit left me a bit underwhelmed. It was quite quiet and didn't have much atmosphere. This time, however, it was a very different experience, and I quite enjoyed it.
First things first, the venue is impressive far more polished than Malio, which I've been to several times.
Over a 100 dressed in elegant evening dress seated across the room. There was a warm pool with private huts, ideal for relaxing in more intimate company definitely better than the pool at emporium!I thought the girls could not join you in the pool at 1001? If they can, that makes it quite a bit more interesting for me, especially as I have yet to visit that place even once.
….decided to revisit The Pool at the 1001 Hotel after my first visit left me a bit underwhelmed. It was quite quiet and didn't have much atmosphere. This time, however, it was a very different experience, and I quite enjoyed it.
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My total spend, including tips, was about 2. 5 million IDR including drinks, tips etc….Thanks for the update on 1001. Great to see you had fun there. I like the place too, but in my experience too many of the girls insist on CBJ. Did you get a BBBJ, and did you ask about it before booking the girl?
I thought the girls could not join you in the pool at 1001? If they can, that makes it quite a bit more interesting for me, especially as I have yet to visit that place even once.They can join you, but this is not included in the base price. Unfortunately, I forgot the exact amount, but I remember that it's way more expensive.
Axel Heyst
08-26-25, 20:46
They can join you, but this is not included in the base price. Unfortunately, I forgot the exact amount, but I remember that it's way more expensive.The Indonesian girls are young and very pretty. The club is fancy, 1st class, and expensive. The only problem I have with 1001 is their CBJ policy. Don't say I did not warn you guys.
Axel Heyst
08-26-25, 21:18
How was the service level? Many have reported all covered (including CBJ) is standard there.That has been my experience more or less. Actually, my personal 1001 stats are about 50/50 on BBBJ's. But one night I got tired of the BS and had it out with the manager when I aborted a session with a pretty girl and asked for a replacement. The manager refused to do me right. He told me point blank that CBJ is the club policy and he even wanted to know the names of the girls who had previously given me BBBJ's which I refused to do.
The bottom line was he would not allow me change girls, or credit my account, but he did offer to restart the clock if I was willing to go back up to the room with the original girl. I told him I did not think she would perform well with me given our little 30-minute public disagreement, but he assured me she would fuck good and he said something to the girl privately which seemed to touch on the issue. It was either I go back upstairs and finish the deed with the original girl or pay up for the session that never happened and get nothing, so the girl and I went back to the room where I told her to skip the BJ and get on with it. It started out like a revenge fuck, but then in cowgirl the girl started to turn me on, hahaha, so I ended up having a decent, albeit a unique session with her. But I have never returned to the place since then even though I think 1001 has more young & pretty Indo girls in its stable than Malio, but the service at Malio is always great so it is no contest anymore. It's too bad about 1001. I really miss Hotel Alexis which used to be my favorite bordello in Jakarta and every Alexis girl that I ever had gave me BBBJ's with a smile.
They can join you, but this is not included in the base price. Unfortunately, I forgot the exact amount, but I remember that it's way more expensive.That is correct. From what I remember, it is something like double the usual price so over 3 mil but you also get more time allowance (I. E. The pool time will be in addition to your private room time allowance).
There is a papi romi (male mamasan) at 1001, he is a friend of david from emporivm. When I visited 1001 last time I asked him to lineup girls who provide BBBJ he was very upset with this request and left me as a client and pursued the Koreans. I then left the premises in disgust plus bad traffic. An hour later david messaged me saying 1001 is handled by different management and so rules of engagement are also different. I have no idea why mongers are visiting 1001 and Travel, shaking my head.
That has been my experience more or less. Actually, my personal 1001 stats are about 50/50 on BBBJ's. But one night I got tired of the BS and had it out with the manager when I aborted a session with a pretty girl and asked for a replacement. The manager refused to do me right. He told me point blank that CBJ is the club policy and he even wanted to know the names of the girls who had previously given me BBBJ's which I refused to do.
The bottom line was he would not allow me change girls, or credit my account, but he did offer to restart the clock if I was willing to go back up to the room with the original girl. I told him I did not think she would perform well with me given our little 30-minute public disagreement, but he assured me she would fuck good and he said something to the girl privately which seemed to touch on the issue. It was either I go back upstairs and finish the deed with the original girl or pay up for the session that never happened and get nothing, so the girl and I went back to the room where I told her to skip the BJ and get on with it. It started out like a revenge fuck, but then in cowgirl the girl started to turn me on, hahaha, so I ended up having a decent, albeit a unique session with her. But I have never returned to the place since then even though I think 1001 has more young & pretty Indo girls in its stable than Malio, but the service at Malio is always great so it is no contest anymore. It's too bad about 1001. I really miss Hotel Alexis which used to be my favorite bordello in Jakarta and every Alexis girl that I ever had gave me BBBJ's with a smile.
Expat American
08-27-25, 08:37
That has been my experience more or less. Actually, my personal 1001 stats are about 50/50 on BBBJ's. But one night I got tired of the BS and had it out with the manager when I aborted a session with a pretty girl and asked for a replacement. The manager refused to do me right. He told me point blank that CBJ is the club policy and he even wanted to know the names of the girls who had previously given me BBBJ's which I refused to do.
The bottom line was he would not allow me change girls, or credit my account, but he did offer to restart the clock if I was willing to go back up to the room with the original girl. I told him I did not think she would perform well with me given our little 30-minute public disagreement, but he assured me she would fuck good and he said something to the girl privately which seemed to touch on the issue. It was either I go back upstairs and finish the deed with the original girl or pay up for the session that never happened and get nothing, so the girl and I went back to the room where I told her to skip the BJ and get on with it. It started out like a revenge fuck, but then in cowgirl the girl started to turn me on, hahaha, so I ended up having a decent, albeit a unique session with her. But I have never returned to the place since then even though I think 1001 has more young & pretty Indo girls in its stable than Malio, but the service at Malio is always great so it is no contest anymore. It's too bad about 1001. I really miss Hotel Alexis which used to be my favorite bordello in Jakarta and every Alexis girl that I ever had gave me BBBJ's with a smile.Thanks. Yeah, that's why its on my miss list. Its not as much the CBJ as that places with rules like that tend to provide formulaic scripted routines rather than real sex. I've never been with a CBJ girl that knocked my socks out in every other way. If you want what the Germans call an "Optifuk" this is an option but for me service and attitude trumps looks. Emporium is a good balance of the two for me but recently their selection has been lacking.
When I visited 1001 last time I asked him to lineup girls who provide BBBJ he was very upset with this request and left me as a client and pursued the Koreans. I have no idea why mongers are visiting 1001 and Travel, shaking my head.Quick question: Why you tagged Travel along with 1001? I don't reckon ladies forcing CBJ at the Travel. Please clarify, if they have changed their policy recently in this regard? Thanks.
The Indonesian girls are young and very pretty. The club is fancy, 1st class, and expensive. The only problem I have with 1001 is their CBJ policy. Don't say I did not warn you guys.
Thanks for the update on 1001. Great to see you had fun there. I like the place too, but in my experience too many of the girls insist on CBJ. Did you get a BBBJ, and did you ask about it before booking the girl?
How was the service level? Many have reported all covered (including CBJ) is standard there.Thanks Axel, Expat American, Safado and SuperLove for the confirmation on the CBJ rule at 1001. Will keep it off from the visit list.
There is a papi romi (male mamasan) at 1001, he is a friend of david from emporivm. When I visited 1001 last time I asked him to lineup girls who provide BBBJ he was very upset with this request and left me as a client and pursued the Koreans. I then left the premises in disgust plus bad traffic. An hour later david messaged me saying 1001 is handled by different management and so rules of engagement are also different. I have no idea why mongers are visiting 1001 and Travel, shaking my head.In disgust, plus bad traffic. My oh my, this certainly removes 1001 from any list of places I will want to visit next week.
How was the service level? Many have reported all covered (including CBJ) is standard there.I tried one time at 1001 club and had CBJ as well. Girl insisted on CBJ.
When seeing too many girls sitting on stage, I had hard time to choose then forgot to discuss with the girl before agreeing to go to room so I just take it as a loss.
The girl is very pretty and works hard to make me cum.
Likely won't come back.
But were you ever stopped and searched? If not, you might as well say you traveled with your hand luggage full of heroin half the times, and cocaine the other half, and nary a problem.Mate, the question was about what to expect at Jakarta custom and I answered accordingly: 14 visits, never searched, even with a bag full of prescriptions. That's not a manifesto on smuggling, just a reflection of how things usually go. The point was about likelihood, not criminal fantasy and the likelihood, frankly, is he'll breeze through like everyone else. Never seen anyone being stopped and searched either. Some countries / airports scan hand luggage when arriving. That doesn't happen in Jakarta.
I thought the girls could not join you in the pool at 1001? If they can, that makes it quite a bit more interesting for me, especially as I have yet to visit that place even once.Hmm I don't really enjoy the pool thing so I did not ask. Also the pool area had a large group of koreans so too crowded.
Thanks for the update on 1001. Great to see you had fun there. I like the place too, but in my experience too many of the girls insist on CBJ. Did you get a BBBJ, and did you ask about it before booking the girl?It's quite funny and honestly a bit amusing if not perplexing, how often this question gets asked on here. Never had an issue getting BBBJ or DFK or any of the usual services we all enjoy. The real trick? Don't treat it like negotiating a contract. Start by breaking the ice casually. Chat with her in the lounge over drinks, make her laugh, compliment her genuinely, and toss in a funny phrase or two in Bahasa (bonus points if you learn some cheeky swear words it's a great way to get a smile). Then, before you even think about asking for anything, tip the waitress right in front of her. This little move signals you're a generous man of culture, not some cheap charlie.
This approach is especially golden in spots like Malio or 1001, and it's worked wonders for me even in Classicnever had a problem. Once you've warmed up the vibe, casually ask what she likes and dislikes, maybe float the idea of a trip to Bali or meeting up on her day off. Only after all that playful rapport should you ask what she prefers service-wiseand make it clear you're happy to reward good service. Failing that, just ask her staright up how much for BBBJ or make an offer. At 1001, 200-300 is more than enough.
I won't pretend this is a full guide to seduction or persuasion, but these girls work hard for peanutsso at least make the experience fun and memorable for her. And most importantly, be nice! The girls in Indonesia are genuinely sweet and deserve that respect.
Two nights ago, I met this "potential" Sugar Baby on Happn. Now, normally I'm a stickler, I always get a clear idea of expectations before meeting. But this time? Nope. Skipped it entirely. Rookie mistake. She teased me with a cream pie offer, and I instantly switched to the wrong headspace, completely missing the all-important question.
In chat, she claimed she'the never had a sugar daddy before. Cute story, right? Yeah, no. Fast forward to the room, just before anything happens, she drops the bomb: "But what about our arrangement?" Alarm bells? More like a full-on siren. My radar lit up like a Christmas tree Hello, jaded pro straight out of Seeking, nice to meet you.
So I say, "Alright, go on. " She deadpans, "Buy me a Hermes bag. " I paused, then said, "F Off. " Because seriously, if you think I'm your personal luxury mall, you're delusional. Then she goes with her rant, "I spend 35-40 million a month. Cover that, and I'm yours. ".
At that point, I suggested she retire for the evening, in her own bed and off she bounced, Grab'ing to the butt of Tangerang South like it was a royal exit.
I'the already been kind enough to book her Grab to my place, and after that delightful little tte--tte, she had the sheer gall to request I arrange her homeward carriage as well. One does wonder. If one's monthly expenditures truly reach 35 million in Jakarta, how does one find oneself so short of pocket money for a mere Grab? Honestly, if that's "refined taste," I'the hate to see what broke looks like. Pure comedy gold.
Waiting for her Grab to arrive, I went into deep thought. Amused, wondering and perplexed about this whole thing. What an age to live in. And really, where do some of these girls get this delusion from? Must be some sugar baby blog written by a seasoned pro or is it insta, or one too many fire emojis and late-night "you up?" DMs on Instagram, and suddenly a heavily filtered 3 thinks she's a ten with options. Toss in some contouring wizardry, a push-up bra, and a swipe-heavy dating app, and voil: instant entitlement. It's genuinely fascinating like watching technology and makeup turn mild mediocrity into full-blown diva syndrome. You almost have to admire the confidence. Almost.
Lesson learned? Don't skip your process. It's all about sifting through the chaff, because sometimes you're looking for sugar, and all you get is a walking over-entitled prima donna.
In my first trip I selected a lady, she clearly told me CBJ is the rule of the house, I then spoke to her mami as well as others and they all confirmed the same. Since then I have never re-visited this establishment, although many punters here confirmed they got BBBJ but I am not sure they had boots on the ground and probably shooting from the hip. Or probably a hit and miss story, I am not into that anyways. As it is I find Travel a poor and a cheaper version of Classic, if you want cheap thrills at a low price must pursue Classic otherwise you have Emporivm and Fortune at higher levels.
Quick question: Why you tagged Travel along with 1001? I don't reckon ladies forcing CBJ at the Travel. Please clarify, if they have changed their policy recently in this regard? Thanks.
Reality of life: free sex is more expensive than paid!
Two nights ago, I met this "potential" Sugar Baby on Happn. Now, normally I'm a stickler, I always get a clear idea of expectations before meeting. But this time? Nope. Skipped it entirely. Rookie mistake. She teased me with a cream pie offer, and I instantly switched to the wrong headspace, completely missing the all-important question.
In chat, she claimed she'the never had a sugar daddy before. Cute story, right? Yeah, no. Fast forward to the room, just before anything happens, she drops the bomb: "But what about our arrangement?" Alarm bells? More like a full-on siren. My radar lit up like a Christmas tree Hello, jaded pro straight out of Seeking, nice to meet you.
So I say, "Alright, go on. " She deadpans, "Buy me a Hermes bag. " I paused, then said, "F Off. " Because seriously, if you think I'm your personal luxury mall, you're delusional. Then she goes with her rant, "I spend 35-40 million a month. Cover that, and I'm yours. ".
At that point, I suggested she retire for the evening, in her own bed and off she bounced, Grab'ing to the butt of Tangerang South like it was a royal exit.
I'the already been kind enough to book her Grab to my place, and after that delightful little tte--tte, she had the sheer gall to request I arrange her homeward carriage as well. One does wonder. If one's monthly expenditures truly reach 35 million in Jakarta, how does one find oneself so short of pocket money for a mere Grab? Honestly, if that's "refined taste," I'the hate to see what broke looks like. Pure comedy gold.
Waiting for her Grab to arrive, I went into deep thought. Amused, wondering and perplexed about this whole thing. What an age to live in. And really, where do some of these girls get this delusion from? Must be some sugar baby blog written by a seasoned pro or is it insta, or one too many fire emojis and late-night "you up?" DMs on Instagram, and suddenly a heavily filtered 3 thinks she's a ten with options. Toss in some contouring wizardry, a push-up bra, and a swipe-heavy dating app, and voil: instant entitlement. It's genuinely fascinating like watching technology and makeup turn mild mediocrity into full-blown diva syndrome. You almost have to admire the confidence. Almost.
Lesson learned? Don't skip your process. It's all about sifting through the chaff, because sometimes you're looking for sugar, and all you get is a walking over-entitled prima donna.
Never seen anyone being stopped and searched either. Some countries / airports scan hand luggage when arriving. That doesn't happen in Jakarta.I've been searched and asked to stand there with my luggage open in front of everyone for half an hour for my first and only trip to Jakarta.
They searched every inch of my luggage, questionned me about many things, checked my passport, told me I've been wrong because I didn't declare the 5 K euros and 5 K baht I had with me, sent some of my items to be checked behind closed doors and ultimately took samples of particules on my hands and my pocket trousers to be checked too before letting me go.
By the way everybody's been submitted to an x-ray scan of their luggage by the customs upon arrival.
Reality of life: free sex is more expensive than paid!Girl friends are expensive than wife. Paid sex is the cheapest and tension free.
Reality of life: free sex is more expensive than paid!I'm with you on that one. 100%! In this case, I had made it very clear that I'm looking for a sugar baby. And while I did ask her a couple of times what her expectations were she was reluctant to answer. I guess her strategy was to meet me first and try her luck to extract the most out of me. I'm guessing I must have given her that impression. It must be some sugar allowance maximisation strategy used by seasoned pro sugar babies from seeking. I've had at least 20+ sugar babies in the last 8/9 months I've been here. And never encountered such an amusing character. I guess there's a first time for everything. And honestly, what the hell is even free sex? I don't think anything is free. It's just different mode of payment. You either pay with your money or you take her shopping or you invest your time and energy, effort and emotions. Sex with a sugar baby, however, is hands down the best sex one can ever have. It's relatively safer in terms of diseases, more cost-effective if you know how to play it right. No I'm not talking about those seasoned professionals who are on seeking! There are plenty of civvies and university girls in Jakarta who would happily accept a regular monthly allowance of 5 to 6 jt. As opposed to slogging their arse off as a barista in Starbucks or as a waitress. Obviously getting that requires time and effort. But it's totally worth it and in terms of experience, nothing beats shagging a teen Hijabi girl who has skipped college to service daddy all day. It honestly doesn't get better than that! So far I've managed to pull them through direct approach in malls, cafes and the hotel I'm at and the local Starbucks.
After focusing on Lokasari and reading Gaijin Gigolo's posts, it's starting to look more and more interesting. The only question would be: bring them to my hotel, or go to the filthy short-time hotel.
What are some decent cheap long term (as in months) accommodations in Lokasari / Kota Indah / Classic area? Someone mentioned a 140 k AirBnB but I only see hotels.
Would it be possible to rent actual flats and pay monthly?Try Travelio.com and you'the find more options on Tiket and Traveloka as opposed to AirBnb.
Girl friends are expensive than wife. Paid sex is the cheapest and tension free.I get the point you're making, and I agree to some extent. But if we're talking about wanted sex and weighing cost, experience, and consistency, sugar babies come out on top. You get regular, high-quality sex, minimal drama, and a clear understanding of expectations. It's transactional, yes, but there's usually effort on both sides to maintain the arrangement, which makes the experience more enjoyable.
Girlfriends come next. They can actually be more expensive in the long run because the costs are ongoing and undefined. Gifts, dinners, trips. And there's always emotional management involved. But there's real connection, and the sex is usually passionate and wanted.
Wives are hit or miss. Early in the relationship, sex might be consistent, but over time it often slows down or becomes conditional. And while the cost is more "lifestyle-based," it's not cheap emotionally or financially. Sex becomes less about desire and more about timing, mood, and circumstances.
Also, if you're someone who prefers full, bareback sex and finishing inside, you're almost guaranteed that with sugar babies. Then girlfriends. Then, depending on the dynamics, maybe your wife. With prostitutes, it's rarely on the table unless you pay significantly more. And even then, it depends on her mood and how you handle it.
So if you factor in quality, consistency, cost, and overall satisfaction, sugar babies offer the best return on investment.
Two nights ago, I met this "potential" Sugar Baby on Happn. Now, normally I'm a stickler, I always get a clear idea of expectations before meeting. But this time? Nope. Skipped it entirely. Rookie mistake. She teased me with a cream pie offer, and I instantly switched to the wrong headspace, completely missing the all-important question.
Lesson learned? Don't skip your process. It's all about sifting through the chaff, because sometimes you're looking for sugar, and all you get is a walking over-entitled prima donna.I'm glad you were able to lose her quickly, because it usually doesn't stop with just the girl, you will soon find yourself paying for her friends and family too. If I genuinely like the girl and the overall vibe, I don't mind treating them to a nice dinner or going to a club once in a while. The problem is, most of them end up bringing unnecessary drama and leaving you feeling used.
In my first trip I selected a lady, she clearly told me CBJ is the rule of the house, I then spoke to her mami as well as others and they all confirmed the same. Since then I have never re-visited this establishment, although many punters here confirmed they got BBBJ.Thank you SuperLove for that explanation. Cheers!
I'm with you on that one. 100%! In this case, I had made it very clear that I'm looking for a sugar baby. And while I did ask her a couple of times what her expectations were she was reluctant to answer. I guess her strategy was to meet me first and try her luck to extract the most out of me. I'm guessing I must have given her that impression. It must be some sugar allowance maximisation strategy used by seasoned pro sugar babies from seeking. I've had at least 20+ sugar babies in the last 8/9 months I've been here. And never encountered such an amusing character. I guess there's a first time for everything. And honestly, what the hell is even free sex? I don't think anything is free. It's just different mode of payment. You either pay with your money or you take her shopping or you invest your time and energy, effort and emotions. Sex with a sugar baby, however, is hands down the best sex one can ever have. It's relatively safer in terms of diseases, more cost-effective if you know how to play it right. No I'm not talking about those seasoned professionals who are on seeking! There are plenty of civvies and university girls in Jakarta who would happily accept a regular monthly allowance of 5 to 6 jt. As opposed to slogging their arse off as a barista in Starbucks or as a waitress. Obviously getting that requires time and effort. But it's totally worth it and in terms of experience, nothing beats shagging a teen Hijabi girl who has skipped college to service daddy all day. It honestly doesn't get better than that! So far I've managed to pull them through direct approach in malls, cafes and the hotel I'm at and the local Starbucks.Your post reminded me, 2-3 years ago I managed to convince uni student to spend a week with me in Bali.
Arrived in Jakarta, bump in one of the coffee shop in Taman Anggrek, she is Indo Chinese who studying in the uni nearby. It was her last year in Uni and doing final thesis. My first week, I casually invite her with lunch, dinner, bar hopping, movies, build relationships, etc. Then I asked her to accompany me to Bali for relaxing. Total cost $1. 5 k covers her daily fee of 1 juta, airfare for both, food, small villa with plunge pool, attractions like beach clubs, bar, jimbaran seafood, monkey forest, ubud sights seeing, etc.
We fugg like crazy, from pool, jacuzzi, kitchen, pretty much every corner in that villa. Even writing about it make me want to revisit it back again. Too bad she have boyfriend and engage now.
Two nights ago, I met this "potential" Sugar Baby on Happn. Now, normally I'm a stickler, I always get a clear idea of expectations before meeting. But this time? Nope. Skipped it entirely. Rookie mistake. She teased me with a cream pie offer, and I instantly switched to the wrong headspace, completely missing the all-important question.
So I say, "Alright, go on. " She deadpans, "Buy me a Hermes bag. " I paused, then said, "F Off. " Because seriously, if you think I'm your personal luxury mall, you're delusional. Then she goes with her rant, "I spend 35-40 million a month. Cover that, and I'm yours. ".
At that point, I suggested she retire for the evening, in her own bed and off she bounced, Grab'ing to the butt of Tangerang South like it was a royal exit.
OMG. How would one even be able to keep a straight face when talking with her after that? The taxi fee would almost be worth it just for the laugh.
HappyFarang
08-29-25, 07:44
Try Travelio.com and you'the find more options on Tiket and Traveloka as opposed to AirBnb.Thanks EdAdams, Travelio looks good with the monthly options. I used Traveloka once, also very good but I didn't see flats rented monthly, good for hotels.
Tiket is new, thanks.
Offshore Swell
08-29-25, 09:23
Please use the link below to refer the map shared by Gaijin Gigolo with some purple markings.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=3004282&viewfull=1#post3004282.
Hopefully this helps. Cheers.To find Lokasari without the map you just look for the biggest, most gigantic, scab covered rats you have ever seen leaping up out of the drains and the holes in the footpath. You will be in the neighbourhood.
BrandNewMonge
08-29-25, 13:17
Would the recent protests happening affect anything? Is it safe to be in the city with them going on?
Would the recent protests happening affect anything? Is it safe to be in the city with them going on?Yep, the protests are making commuting in a Grab SOOOO much easier. Today, the roads were pretty clear at 7:30 pm when I returned from Classic to GI mall. Normally this journey would have taken 30 minutes, but today it was less than 15. No traffic at all. And even in the daytime, whilst I was in the gym, I noticed a lack of people there. I saw the same yesterday when there were protests too.
I've never seen Jakarta roads so commutable.
I think locals are staying at home "because of the protests" and the roads / malls are way less congested as a result. Best time to in Jakarta, as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, BTW, I banged a couple of new girls in Classic T2 day. Both gave great service. I've gotten the wattsapp of one of them, and will make a private arrangement with her to visit me in my appartment.
BrandNewMonge
08-30-25, 07:46
Yep, the protests are making commuting in a Grab SOOOO much easier. Today, the roads were pretty clear at 7:30 pm when I returned from Classic to GI mall. Normally this journey would have taken 30 minutes, but today it was less than 15. No traffic at all. And even in the daytime, whilst I was in the gym, I noticed a lack of people there. I saw the same yesterday when there were protests too.
I've never seen Jakarta roads so commutable.
I think locals are staying at home "because of the protests" and the roads / malls are way less congested as a result. Best time to in Jakarta, as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, BTW, I banged a couple of new girls in Classic T2 day. Both gave great service. I've gotten the wattsapp of one of them, and will make a private arrangement with her to visit me in my appartment.
Jakarta with no traffic does sound good!
Well people are protesting for a reason and some people got run-over by a police car so wishing more protests is a clear indicator of selfish and childish behaviour. Wait until they declare martial law and then nobody will go anywhere.I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.
Muzungufotsy
08-31-25, 03:15
I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.I'm actually but when people tell nonsense BS you have to tell them.
Would the recent protests happening affect anything? Is it safe to be in the city with them going on?I have a trip scheduled for Sept 12-21. Is it safe to come? Are the clubs like Classic and Travel open for business?
Any information provided will be great.
Thanks in advance to my bros out there. Stay safe!
Any information provided will be great.Protests are getting very violent, some videos are showing a couple of cops being lynched to death.
HappyFarang
08-31-25, 12:54
Generally speaking, how is bringing girls to your hotel? Is it ever a problem with the staff at the reception?
Can you recommend a hotel for less than 300 K per night?
Searching on Travelio the idea of renting a flat monthly seems good. Some decent options for 5-7 juta (plus bills). Only issue: you have to book a minimum of 3 months if you want to view the place before you move in. If anyone has ever been through the process of renting a flat either through Travelio or any other route, do you have any advice?
Unrelated: is Travel Hotel more or less like Classic in terms of girls and pricing?
I have a trip scheduled for Sept 12-21. Is it safe to come? Are the clubs like Classic and Travel open for business?
Any information provided will be great.
Thanks in advance to my bros out there. Stay safe!I think watching news can sometimes be a dangerous thing, as we see the rioting, the burning and the civil unrest. All of that is happening of course, but it's happening in specific areas.
Most of the city is functioning better than normal. Why 'better'? Well, because of the protests, many people are staying at home. The roads are almost empty, the malls are very quiet, and you can actually travel to places much, much faster by Grab than normal. (As long as those places are not in the protest zone.) I'm boots-on-the-ground, living in central Jakarta. I've never seen Jakarta so un-congested. I've been to Classic for 4 consecutive nights (Wed to Sun), and the banged 7 girls. I've literally just come back from there. I'll either return there tomorrow or go to Kota Indah. It's business as normal. The only difference is that now my journey only takes 15 minutes as opposed to 30 minutes.
That's my personal experience. I hope it doesn't offend anyone.
P.S- my last post on the protests offended someone here so much that they, in private DM's, offered to meet me anywhere so that they could kick my ass. Yeah, no kidding. So, in short, you'll be just fine, if you stay away from the protest zones.
Expat American
08-31-25, 17:31
I think watching news can sometimes be a dangerous thing, as we see the rioting, the burning and the civil unrest. All of that is happening of course, but it's happening in specific areas.
Most of the city is functioning better than normal. Why 'better'? Well, because of the protests, many people are staying at home. The roads are almost empty, the malls are very quiet, and you can actually travel to places much, much faster by Grab than normal. (As long as those places are not in the protest zone.) I'm boots-on-the-ground, living in central Jakarta. I've never seen Jakarta so un-congested. I've been to Classic for 4 consecutive nights (Wed to Sun), and the banged 7 girls. I've literally just come back from there. I'll either return there tomorrow or go to Kota Indah. It's business as normal. The only difference is that now my journey only takes 15 minutes as opposed to 30 minutes.
That's my personal experience. I hope it doesn't offend anyone.
P.S- my last post on the protests offended someone here so much that they, in private DM's, offered to meet me anywhere so that they could kick my ass. Yeah, no kidding. So, in short, you'll be just fine, if you stay away from the protest zones.So your point is that locals, who have been born and raised in Jakarta, are staying indoors because they are worried but you think its safe for foreigners to roam about fucking girls in this climate. I really hope people don't listen to this inane advice. I have friends in Jakarta (local born Indonesians) who are telling me they are terrified about how bad things can happen. I know Singaporeans on the ground there with bags packed ready to go on short notice. But you go ahead enjoying your uncongested streets. I'm not there right now but I know who I should listen to for advice about when its safe to go again.
So your point is that locals, who have been born and raised in Jakarta, are staying indoors because they are worried but you think its safe for foreigners to roam about fucking girls in this climate..Nope, that's not my point at all. I never said that. If you read my post again, or for the first time, as you clearly did not understand it, you'll see that I said "That's my personal experience. I hope it doesn't offend anyone" That last line was a semi-joke, but you've proved my point perfectly. There's always someone who'll choose to be offended at the slightest reason. There is no cure for that mental illness.
And yes, it IS okay for a foreigner to roam about fucking girls, because that's exactly what I've done in the last four days. Please read my post again, or for the first time, because you clearly didn't understand it. It's safe as long as you stay away from the protest zone. I said that in my original post. Which you clearly didn't understand.
"I'm not there right now ". Well, then you really have no right to be posting aggressive, argumentative posts on this sub. Kindly excuse yourself, and let people who actually live here, and who have real-life and first-hand experience of these protests, post their opinions without your toxicity. You seem to think that you know more about Jakarta from your 2nd hand, or 3rd hand information, than someone who's actually living right in the centre of the city.
P.S- my last post on the protests offended someone here so much that they, in private DM's, offered to meet me anywhere so that they could kick my ass. Yeah, no kidding. Sorry to hear that. I thought it was mostly one individual, who has now evacuated himself from this forum by his own free will, who had a habit of sending such private messages. I was not aware he had relatives here.
Hung Man 1808
08-31-25, 19:22
So your point is that locals, who have been born and raised in Jakarta, are staying indoors because they are worried but you think its safe for foreigners to roam about fucking girls in this climate. I really hope people don't listen to this inane advice. I have friends in Jakarta (local born Indonesians) who are telling me they are terrified about how bad things can happen. I know Singaporeans on the ground there with bags packed ready to go on short notice. But you go ahead enjoying your uncongested streets. I'm not there right now but I know who I should listen to for advice about when its safe to go again.As per Title. Anyone remember that time? Probably stretching it to ask if anyone was in Jakarta or Indonesia during that time (especially the riots). I hadn't set foot in Indonesia at the time, though I certainly remember it. I know Indonesians in my country who were sent to the airport during the riots and have never returned. But they were Chinese heritage. The target of the riots. Much of the rioting was encouraged by the government (ok Suharto and co.) and bule were left alone.
Now I'm hearing reports (all anecdotal of course) that the same thing is happening I. E. Government is encouraging the looting and burning. They may not have intended for the rioters to target the houses and property of ministers and sitting members of the government and trash them all (as is happening now) but it's definitely targeting those more fortunate than the vast majority. For now, that is the members of government, but if the anger keeps going, and they run out of targets there, who's next? Why, the chinese of course, and pretty soon the next one down the chain is the walking ATMs. Which any foreigner looking person is by default.
Add in the fact the army is ready and willing to step up and get things under control, and help out one of their old war criminal sanctioned generals who just happens to be the president, and son in law of the last dictator, and well, it won't take much to have bullets flying all over and martial law in place.
The burning and looting of police stations and Transjakarta stops incidentally have happened in Senayan (not so long ago the epicentre of activity on this forum for hotels and surrounding clubs for pickup) and in Senen. Just east of Monas, just south of Classic. And around the recently mentioned Atrium mall, once an epicentre of look and walk mall pickups.
So if you're out and about, enjoy, but keep glued to any reportiing you can get on the situation like all the Indonesians are. And be prepared to bolt. Krismon rioting is why there is an area in Jakarta called PIK. It's where the chinese built up a suburb from scratch which is connected to the tollway and a straight shoot to CGK in ten minutes. So they can all bail from the country at very short notice.
Have a think about that.
As per Title. Anyone remember that time? Probably stretching it to ask if anyone was in Jakarta or Indonesia during that time (especially the riots). I hadn't set foot in Indonesia at the time, though I certainly remember it. I know Indonesians in my country who were sent to the airport during the riots and have never returned. But they were Chinese heritage. The target of the riots. Pick me!! I was going to reply to EA that he's correct in that it certainly wasn't a good time to be seen walking around town for a Chinese Indonesian but as a young expat, it was the best time of my life. Girls everywhere, a collapsing currency and so much fun to be had. Prices in dollars for everything from TVs to pussy were a pittance.
I'm not in country now but my advice would be the same as back then: don't go into the heart of the riots and demos but a lot of fun can be had on the peripheries.
Enjoy. G.
Generally speaking, how is bringing girls to your hotel? Is it ever a problem with the staff at the reception?
Can you recommend a hotel for less than 300 K per night?
Searching on Travelio the idea of renting a flat monthly seems good. Some decent options for 5-7 juta (plus bills). Only issue: you have to book a minimum of 3 months if you want to view the place before you move in. If anyone has ever been through the process of renting a flat either through Travelio or any other route, do you have any advice?
Unrelated: is Travel Hotel more or less like Classic in terms of girls and pricing?
It is not difficult to find a hotel for $20 a night in Jakarta, but at that price point, you only get a very basic smoky, musty room in 2-star hotel. Hotel 88 Mangga Besar VII across from Hotel Travel is in that range. Cove Bona Sort in Pasar Baru, a 4 minute walk across from Classic, offers both short- and long-term stays about $15 per day, $300 per month, I met someone who had lived here for a few months.
I think watching news can sometimes be a dangerous thing, as we see the rioting, the burning and the civil unrest. All of that is happening of course, but it's happening in specific areas.
Most of the city is functioning better than normal. Why 'better'? Well, because of the protests, many people are staying at home. The roads are almost empty, the malls are very quiet, and you can actually travel to places much, much faster by Grab than normal. (As long as those places are not in the protest zone.) I'm boots-on-the-ground, living in central Jakarta. I've never seen Jakarta so un-congested. I've been to Classic for 4 consecutive nights (Wed to Sun), and the banged 7 girls. I've literally just come back from there. I'll either return there tomorrow or go to Kota Indah. It's business as normal. The only difference is that now my journey only takes 15 minutes as opposed to 30 minutes.
That's my personal experience. I hope it doesn't offend anyone.
P.S- my last post on the protests offended someone here so much that they, in private DM's, offered to meet me anywhere so that they could kick my ass. Yeah, no kidding. So, in short, you'll be just fine, if you stay away from the protest zones.Thanks for the info Fudimaar! Much appreciated. Stay safe bros.
HappyFarang
09-01-25, 02:18
All of this has been covered countless times every 3-4 months. Try spending a little more than 30 minutes doing research (if you did any). As for Travelio, you have not even been to Jakarta so why on earth care to look into such a long term stay there? How can you possibly search for a long term place to stay not knowing any areas thus where to even search? You can only stay 2 months at a time. How can anyone recommend a hotel based on one requirement. Price)? Ok, I will try. The'Primahotel Airport $20.Thanks for the input.
I read every single word from the present to the 15th of July, which is 18 pages. It took me hours of reading spread out over 2-3 weeks, taking notes via Vim (for efficiency) on an. Md file, organised by categories, with highlighting and references. 364 lines, 52 kilobytes of text. So no, I haven't spent 30 minutes doing research (if I did any). Not to mention the interspersed research that I've done using the search function, which is not included in the 18 pages. You may think it's not a lot, but I like to organise the information I find in a thorough way, or I could have read 60 pages by now but it would have been pointless.
So forgive me if I ask a few questions now and then not to spend the next 2 months covering the past 4 months of reports on this forum. I keep the questions strictly to what was not covered in my research. I am happy enough with the information I've found so far, reading another 3 months seems over-researching.
The reason I ask about renting is to have an idea, a direction. I never said I'm renting a flat now, I asked about the process of doing so, to start forming an idea of what to do. But it's okay, I don't mind the rudeness, maybe you had a bad day.
It is not difficult to find a hotel for $20 a night in Jakarta, but at that price point, you only get a very basic smoky, musty room in 2-star hotel. Hotel 88 Mangga Besar VII across from Hotel Travel is in that range. Cove Bona Sort in Pasar Baru, a 4 minute walk across from Classic, offers both short- and long-term stays about $15 per day, $300 per month, I met someone who had lived here for a few months.Thanks!
Others were generous with their reply.
In your history all posts asking info not much report or post info.
From your vim md file.
You are tech savvy or even working Tech.
Do you know something google maps.
Put hotel and find budget.
But then once you go under $20.
Hot water may not work, wifi down, very basic bed room, minor issues etc.
For any new city.
You can stay any shared bunk bed type hostels for two days and get all ground info.
Thanks for the input.
I read every single word from the present to the 15th of July, which is 18 pages. It took me hours of reading spread out over 2-3 weeks, taking notes via Vim (for efficiency) on an. Md file, organised by categories, with highlighting and references. 364 lines, 52 kilobytes of text. So no, I haven't spent 30 minutes doing research (if I did any). Not to mention the interspersed research that I've done using the search function, which is not included in the 18 pages. You may think it's not a lot, but I like to organise the information I find in a thorough way, or I could have read 60 pages by now but it would have been pointless.
So forgive me if I ask a few questions now and then not to spend the next 2 months covering the past 4 months of reports on this forum. I keep the questions strictly to what was not covered in my research. I am happy enough with the information I've found so far, reading another 3 months seems over-researching.
The reason I ask about renting is to have an idea, a direction. I never said I'm renting a flat now, I asked about the process of doing so, to start forming an idea of what to do. But it's okay, I don't mind the rudeness, maybe you had a bad day. =).
Thanks!
Bro, I am with you on this one. Bang these chicks and enjoy the uncongested streets, what a boon. I spoke to a few girls and they are very upset and unhappy at the whole thing, one girl from Bandung cancelled her daddy trip to Jakarta. Yeah but none said they are scared or afraid. That's the whole point, find an opportunity and make the most of it in an unfortunate event. My Q at classic do you see the same no of girls & punters or its gone southwards as many choose to stay home. And what about restaurants and bars over the weekend.
Nope, that's not my point at all. I never said that. If you read my post again, or for the first time, as you clearly did not understand it, you'll see that I said "That's my personal experience. I hope it doesn't offend anyone" That last line was a semi-joke, but you've proved my point perfectly. There's always someone who'll choose to be offended at the slightest reason. There is no cure for that mental illness.
And yes, it IS okay for a foreigner to roam about fucking girls, because that's exactly what I've done in the last four days. Please read my post again, or for the first time, because you clearly didn't understand it. It's safe as long as you stay away from the protest zone. I said that in my original post. Which you clearly didn't understand.
"I'm not there right now ". Well, then you really have no right to be posting aggressive, argumentative posts on this sub. Kindly excuse yourself, and let people who actually live here, and who have real-life and first-hand experience of these protests, post their opinions without your toxicity. You seem to think that you know more about Jakarta from your 2nd hand, or 3rd hand information, than someone who's actually living right in the centre of the city.
HappyFarang
09-01-25, 08:54
Others were generous with their reply.
In your history all posts asking info not much report or post info.
From your vim md file.
You are tech savvy or even working Tech.
Do you know something google maps.
Put hotel and find budget.
But then once you go under $20.
Hot water may not work, wifi down, very basic bed room, minor issues etc.
For any new city.
You can stay any shared bunk bed type hostels for two days and get all ground info.Thanks Chilli1. Of course people were generous, and I have always thanked them, they helped me a lot.
I'm new in Indonesia and moving to Jakarta in 2 days. I'm sorry if it looks bad ATM, I can only report once I have something to contribute with.
I understand that "patience" may not abound around here, so I will go silent until I have a real report to make. No more questions from me.
I have a trip scheduled for Sept 12-21. Is it safe to come? Are the clubs like Classic and Travel open for business?
Any information provided will be great.
Thanks in advance to my bros out there. Stay safe!Yes, very safe. A few bus stops got set alight on a 300 metre stretch of road, some graffiti, they broke the glass panels on the MRT stations, looted a vending machine I believe, looted a couple of mansions. The US protests back in 2020 for the black who died while resisting arrest were for more destructive. You would have to go out of your way to find any signs that there was rioting in Jakarta and even then you might miss it driving past.
If you are a police officer, crooked politician, maybe you should be a little worried, but it doesn't seem sex tourists looking for $30 BBFS have any reason to worry.
I'm sure it didn't stop the bespectacled weenies in their crocs hightailing it back to Singapore though.
Bro, I am with you on this one. Bang these chicks and enjoy the uncongested streets, what a boon. I spoke to a few girls and they are very upset and unhappy at the whole thing, one girl from Bandung cancelled her daddy trip to Jakarta. Yeah but none said they are scared or afraid. That's the whole point, find an opportunity and make the most of it in an unfortunate event. My Q at classic do you see the same no of girls & punters or its gone southwards as many choose to stay home. And what about restaurants and bars over the weekend.Agreed, it's all about looking at the positives, and enjoying the benefits. Remember that someone once famously said "Every adversity brings with it, a seed of an equivalent or greater benefit."
Some people, esp those who aren't even in the country, seem to think that Jakarta has turned into some sort of a war zone, when the reality is actually very different.
Classic T2 seems to have the same numbers of girls as usual. Yesterday, there were a few less than usual. I asked a couple of the girls why that was, and both mentioned that it was due to it being a Sunday. Makes sense. Same number of girls in Classic T5, as per normal. And there's still the same number of clients. T2 was buzzing, even on a Sun.
The malls are much calmer. I haven't visited any bars / clubs in the last week (I've been busy doing press-ups on top of a cutie or two), so not sure about them. My gym, surprisingly, is also quieter. Possible because it's in a very high office-worker area and a lot of people are now working from home due to the protests.
Today, I had a cutie visit me at my apartment. No mention of protests, no fear of leaving her house, no problems with traffic and she arrived right on time.
Tomorrow, I'll probably hit Classic / Kota Indah, depending on my mood.
I'm totally loving the mongering here right now.
Note there is a new "all Indonesia" form you have to fill out for arrivals, starting as of yesterday.
https://allindonesia.imigrasi.go.id/
Only accidently found out about it due to googling about the protests in the hours before my departure from Thailand.
P4P also seems to be as normal, from my very limited experience.
Now insisting on video calls before any michat meeting, and so far, so good. Didn't insist on it on my first visit last night (just arrived from Thailand, where I didn't bother), and it was, as usual in Indonesia, somebody completely different waiting for me in the lobby, wearing a face mask even. I didn't even bother acknowledging her, but just walked straight past her, looked at some stuff, and back up to the elevator, walking past her again.
Then had a handful of people refusing video call, until one 18 yo agreed and turned up half an hour later, looking as she did on the video call before. Actually she had some problems sending selfie to me from the lobby too. Some sorry ass excuse, so thought it was another scammer, but since I already have moved her from michat to whatsapp for the previous video call, easy to video call her again, so thought I'd do that rather than tell the scammer to fuck off. She still looked right, so went down to meet her. Next time, I'll just video call again directly once she says she's arrived I think, rather than bothering her with selfies. More safe, and quicker too.
Back to the room, banged her, and back she went.
So I think this is the safest and fastest way to weed out the michat scammers:
1) move to whatsapp, video call. Most scammers will refuse, and perhaps some real girls too unfortunately (but I will never know about the real girls). Just a few seconds video call is enough. Say hi, see she looks ok, and then say "ok" or "no".
2) once arrived at hotel, video call again. This weeds out the remaining scammers. See they're at what looks like your hotel in the video call, and the same girl, then go down to meet.
Still have to deal with the "bad service" scam I guess. Won't do this, won't do that, but at least, you're with the real girl now.
Thanks Chilli1. Of course people were generous, and I have always thanked them, they helped me a lot.
I'm new in Indonesia and moving to Jakarta in 2 days. I'm sorry if it looks bad ATM, I can only report once I have something to contribute with.
I understand that "patience" may not abound around here, so I will go silent until I have a real report to make. No more questions from me. =).Chilli1 seems to be correct in that you seem to only have posted questions in all your posts though, regarding both Indonesia and places you've already been.
Time to step up and contribute some reports of your own.
Note there is a new "all Indonesia" form you have to fill out for arrivals, starting as of yesterday.
https://allindonesia.imigrasi.go.id/
So I think this is the safest and fastest way to weed out the michat scammers:
1) move to whatsapp, video call. Most scammers will refuse, and perhaps some real girls too unfortunately (but I will never know about the real girls). Just a few seconds video call is enough. Say hi, see she looks ok, and then say "ok" or "no".
2) once arrived at hotel, video call again. This weeds out the remaining scammers. See they're at what looks like your hotel in the video call, and the same girl, then go down to meet.
Still have to deal with the "bad service" scam I guess. Won't do this, won't do that, but at least, you're with the real girl now.Thank you Werqweq for the details about the newly introduced 'All Indonesia' arrival card. Time to update the checklist.
Coming to Michat hunting, I agree, the multiple video calls would help us filter out scammers. There is another scenario where the Michat profiles are handled by the agents, some of them are not scammers (based on reports shared by few punters from the forum), but there could few who will have malicious plans to scam the hobbyists, chiefly the visiting ones. I was asked to pay upfront an amount by an agent last time, stating I was using their services for the first time (Smile). I said goodbye. Luckily the agent didn't pester me again on Michat. So initial screening with a video calls will help to see the girl chatting with, and the subsequent video call at the hotel lobby or outside the hotel would help to weed out pertinent scammers. I didn't continue with conversation, when I figure out it was an agent on the other end.
Finally, bad service or attitude or drama scams are hard to eliminate completely. After all, everyday is not Sunday. Happy Punting! Cheers.
Coming to Michat hunting, I agree, the multiple video calls would help us filter out scammers. There is another scenario where the Michat profiles are handled by the agents, some of them are not scammers (based on reports shared by few punters from the forum), but there could few who will have malicious plans to scam the hobbyists, chiefly the visiting ones.You are right about that. On my previous stay, the first time I used michat, I did around 15 bookings I think. Except for three, they were all bad. Those three were however also handled by agents (they seem to call them "admin" here).
I'm not sure what would have happened had I requested a video call for those three. Maybe they would have refused, and I'd lost those three decent experiences, or maybe they'd given me the whatsapp of the girl and told her to answer when I called. I suspect I will find out this week.
It's a pity really. Two admins (one girl was an unintentional repeat. Not sure if from a different "admin", or he has several accounts for the same girls) sent real girls, but they get drowned in a sea of scammers. It's the same with fiwfans in Thailand: a few real beauties get drowned in a sea of ugly girls photoshopped to look like beauties.
Thinking about it now, I should have asked for the whatsapp of those two admins (maybe they were even the same one admin, no way to tell), and then asked them for more girls directly, rather than dealing with more scam admins on michat.
Go to Classic if you don't know of the establishment and its operations. I have no idea why people use Michat Tinder okcupid and then complain of scams and poor quality service. In Jakarta there is no need to use these apps, classic & KI are like gold mines. Either you are too lazy or ignorant, in both cases you are sounding absurd and foolish. Get your ass out from the bed.
You are right about that. On my previous stay, the first time I used michat, I did around 15 bookings I think. Except for three, they were all bad. Those three were however also handled by agents (they seem to call them "admin" here).
I'm not sure what would have happened had I requested a video call for those three. Maybe they would have refused, and I'd lost those three decent experiences, or maybe they'd given me the whatsapp of the girl and told her to answer when I called. I suspect I will find out this week.
It's a pity really. Two admins (one girl was an unintentional repeat. Not sure if from a different "admin", or he has several accounts for the same girls) sent real girls, but they get drowned in a sea of scammers. It's the same with fiwfans in Thailand: a few real beauties get drowned in a sea of ugly girls photoshopped to look like beauties. Thinking about it now, I should have asked for the whatsapp of those two admins (maybe they were even the same one admin, no way to tell), and then asked them for more girls directly, rather than dealing with more scam admins on michat.
Note there is a new "all Indonesia" form you have to fill out for arrivals, starting as of yesterday.
https://allindonesia.imigrasi.go.id/
.Indonesia has introduced a unified digital portal, named "All Indonesia", to streamline immigration, customs, and health procedures into a single form, replacing multiple separate processes like SATUSEHAT (health declaration) and e-CD (customs declaration) online forms.
Travelers fill out this form within 3 days (ideally 72 hours) prior to arrival.
Go to Classic if you don't know of the establishment and its operations. I have no idea why people use Michat Tinder okcupid and then complain of scams and poor quality service. In Jakarta there is no need to use these apps, classic & KI are like gold mines. Either you are too lazy or ignorant, in both cases you are sounding absurd and foolish. Get your ass out from the bed.There, there, my love. We all have our preferences for what we like.
In my case it's going to Classic (today, as it happens, for a threesome that turned out somewhat different than expected), or some similar p4p-venue early, and then either meet a normal girl somewhere, preferably not too far away, for a date in the evening, or having a p4p girl come to my room at night, if no (good) date.
My ass is indeed too lazy to get out of bed at night, unless it's to meet a non-p4p girl.
Asian Rain
09-02-25, 22:08
Go to Classic if you don't know of the establishment and its operations... (EDIT) classic & KI are like gold mines.Venues like Classic, Kota Indah bars and Travel Hotel are reliable meat markets for sure and probably the best option for any newbie needing to get out a reliably cheap nut. If you don't mind the pounding dangdut "music" and oppressive smoke, mami has plenty of girls to flog with her green laser pointer. When it comes to service and girl quality, however, several recent reports indicate the experience might be more like a land mine than a gold mine. Although a few reports claim that it is "virtually guaranteed" that anybody can get everything under the sun using only feeling and vibe, I see many more reports of girls not kissing, refusing BBBJ (must have condom for sucking even though they will drench your junk in mouthwash), denying BBFS (must have condom, even sometimes refusing the 100-200 k tip), reporting patrons to management for taking non-sexual pictures (forget nudes or videos) along with a spattering of reports of turn-off zonk service, tattoos and mommy bodies. Also, having seen actual pics of Classic providers which one regular visitor evaluated as "top 20%" of Classic girls, not everybody will be gagging to book a gojek. If the above variable factors are considered as features rather than bugs, then these venues might be in some precious metal mine class.
OTOH, if a punter wants a girl to come to the clean, quiet, comfortable and non-smoking environment of his private room at any time of day, then none of the above venues will easily do the trick. If you use MiChat (which one poster claims works perfectly nearly every time, but all others indicate requires a tedious process to reliably weed out scam girls), have some personal contacts or better yet have a personal network, then there is the possibility of having delivery to your doorstep. To each his own, but for whatever reason maybe some don't want to leave the hotel or even get their ass out of bed. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Venues like Classic, Kota Indah bars and Travel Hotel are reliable meat markets for sure and probably the best option for any newbie needing to get out a reliably cheap nut. If you don't mind the pounding dangdut "music" and oppressive smoke, mami has plenty of girls to flog with her green laser pointer. When it comes to service and girl quality, however, several recent reports indicate the experience might be more like a land mine than a gold mine. Although a few reports claim that it is "virtually guaranteed" that anybody can get everything under the sun using only feeling and vibe, I see many more reports of girls not kissing, refusing BBBJ (must have condom for sucking even though they will drench your junk in mouthwash), denying BBFS (must have condom, even sometimes refusing the 100-200 k tip), reporting patrons to management for taking non-sexual pictures (forget nudes or videos) along with a spattering of reports of turn-off zonk service, tattoos and mommy bodies. Also, having seen actual pics of Classic providers which one regular visitor evaluated as "top 20%" of Classic girls, not everybody will be gagging to book a gojek. If the above variable factors are considered as features rather than bugs, then these venues might be in some precious metal mine class.
OTOH, if a punter wants a girl to come to the clean, quiet, comfortable and non-smoking environment of his private room at any time of day, then none of the above venues will easily do the trick. If you use MiChat (which one poster claims works perfectly nearly every time, but all others indicate requires a tedious process to reliably weed out scam girls), have some personal contacts or better yet have a personal network, then there is the possibility of having delivery to your doorstep. To each his own, but for whatever reason maybe some don't want to leave the hotel or even get their ass out of bed. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Yesterday I had both. Mama grabbed me as I entered, and pointed out two girls she thought I would like. From a distance, indeed my type, so asked her to bring them over. Close up, good too. One I had already banged a couple of times before, and either because she's got her hair / facial style more together now, or because I like her more, I'd rate her as a 7. Probably the latter. Other girl, working her second day if what she said was true, about the same. Down we went, and rapport was good with both. Unfortunately, new girl insisted on condom, so she was instead forced to spend most of her time BBBJ-ing, until I CIM, with half of it shooting over the ass of my friend from before, who was relaxing on my chest while we were talking sweetly, me gently massaging her back. My friend from before was a bit surprised, and other girl helped her wipe it off. A funny moment for all.
I unfortunately understand nada bahasa, but from their conversation in bed, I am guessing that new girl insisted on condom, my friend tried to change her mind, but it ended up with my friend also not wanting to do without condom due to being scared of new girl seeing it (not sure why, but we can guess). So instead new girl was busy BBBJ-ing until CIM, and after that, she continued BBBJ-ing. She made several requests for me to starting to fuck them, but I prefer BBBJ to covered FS (perhaps because until recently, covered FS was all I ever had except with friends / GF's where we did mutual STD tests and had trust), so just had her continue BBBJ-ing, while making sure my friend was ok. I will say she was a trooper though, so it made my change my mind about not tipping her at all. In the end, for the second shot, I had new girl put on the cover, banged her for a minute or two, before taking off the condom. Then I asked my friend for the other condom, had new girl blow me a bit to wake junior up again, and told new girl she could jump into the shower, while I would be fucking my friend.
Started unpacking the condom, while new girl went into the shower, then put the condom in my friends hand while other girl was in the shower, and banged my friend as as before, with her asking me to hurry and finish before new girl came out of the shower.
Tipped new girl 50,000 (I think she must have BBBJ-ing me for a good 40 minutes in total, and she was a trooper about it. Even gagging and laughing about it, and no bad attitude), and my friend, who barely did anything, 200,000. Quite unfair, but such is life.
In the evening I contacted one of the pimpettes you forwarded me the contact info for. She showed me photos of two girls, one who I thought looked pretty, other not, and had her send her over. Strangely enough, two girls arrived, one girl apparently there to "deliver" the other girl, all the way up to the room, and inside? Other girl asked if I didn't want threesome while we were in the lift, and I thought she was talking about the girl previously shown in the photo, who I did not like, but eventually I figured out this "deliver" girl was also available (I'm a bit slow sometimes), so invited her to join us, rather than hide in the bathroom until I'd finished with the girl I'd chosen, which I suspect was the plan. Wasn't sure what I was supposed to pay, since I had only booked one girl, so ended up paying them both the same amount. I guess a discount could have been negotiated if I'd done it in advance, but I didn't bother.
Asian Rain
09-03-25, 03:59
In the evening I contacted one of the pimpettes you forwarded me the contact info for. She showed me photos of two girls, one who I thought looked pretty, other not, and had her send her over. Strangely enough, two girls arrived, one girl apparently there to "deliver" the other girl, all the way up to the room, and inside? Other girl asked if I didn't want threesome while we were in the lift, and I thought she was talking about the girl previously shown in the photo, who I did not like, but eventually I figured out this "deliver" girl was also available (I'm a bit slow sometimes), so invited her to join us, rather than hide in the bathroom until I'd finished with the girl I'd chosen, which I suspect was the plan. Wasn't sure what I was supposed to pay, since I had only booked one girl, so ended up paying them both the same amount. I guess a discount could have been negotiated if I'd done it in advance, but I didn't bother.It can be quite a temptation when the pimpette (or delivery girl) looks as good as the girl she is delivering. The "delivery girl" will almost always be grateful to join in a threesome and the all-in cost will still be less than a single shot Bangkok MP. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
That's my whole point AR, why stay in bed and rely on michat and tinder experiences and then complain of bad service and scams. Its beyond me and am shaking my head in disbelief, you have classic next door where BBBJ is given and if you tip an extra 100 k you can extend this to BBFS. No scams here and you have the quality right in front of you, plus dozens to choose from. I am sorry and feel for you if you can't even get a BBBJ in classic which is a sure shot thing. Punting is not for you then.
Staying indoors for an evening is one thing and doing this everyday is another. Have a good trip my friend!
Venues like Classic, Kota Indah bars and Travel Hotel are reliable meat markets for sure and probably the best option for any newbie needing to get out a reliably cheap nut. If you don't mind the pounding dangdut "music" and oppressive smoke, mami has plenty of girls to flog with her green laser pointer. When it comes to service and girl quality, however, several recent reports indicate the experience might be more like a land mine than a gold mine. Although a few reports claim that it is "virtually guaranteed" that anybody can get everything under the sun using only feeling and vibe, I see many more reports of girls not kissing, refusing BBBJ (must have condom for sucking even though they will drench your junk in mouthwash), denying BBFS (must have condom, even sometimes refusing the 100-200 k tip), reporting patrons to management for taking non-sexual pictures (forget nudes or videos) along with a spattering of reports of turn-off zonk service, tattoos and mommy bodies. Also, having seen actual pics of Classic providers which one regular visitor evaluated as "top 20%" of Classic girls, not everybody will be gagging to book a gojek. If the above variable factors are considered as features rather than bugs, then these venues might be in some precious metal mine class..
OTOH, if a punter wants a girl to come to the clean, quiet, comfortable and non-smoking environment of his private room at any time of day, then none of the above venues will easily do the trick. If you use MiChat (which one poster claims works perfectly nearly every time, but all others indicate requires a tedious process to reliably weed out scam girls), have some personal contacts or better yet have a personal network, then there is the possibility of having delivery to your doorstep. To each his own, but for whatever reason maybe some don't want to leave the hotel or even get their ass out of bed. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.True that, AR. Variety is the spice of life. If the Punter is staying for more than a week or so. He can try different venues, various SOPs etc. (wink) as he have time to explore different options (entertainment houses, spas, clubs, social media apps, malls, coffee shops etc.) I thoroughly enjoyed my visits to Classic (than Travel. Again a personal preference) however when a bird visit you at your hotel or apartment and when things goes well; It's a different game altogether. ST will transform into LT and extend LTs (sometimes without even leaving the hotel). If the bird liked Punter's company and have like minded peers, one may get more birds. Even the possibility of threesome is in the cards. Happy Punting. Cheers.
In the evening two girls arrived, one girl apparently there to "deliver" the other girl, all the way up to the room, and inside? Other girl asked if I didn't want threesome while we were in the lift, and I thought she was talking about the girl previously shown in the photo, who I did not like, but eventually I figured out this "deliver" girl was also available (I'm a bit slow sometimes), so invited her to join us, rather than hide in the bathroom until I'd finished with the girl I'd chosen, which I suspect was the plan. Wasn't sure what I was supposed to pay, since I had only booked one girl, so ended up paying them both the same amount. I guess a discount could have been negotiated if I'd done it in advance, but I didn't bother.That's a different 1 plus 1 offer without discount. Hope you had a great time with the 'delivery girl' and the 'delivered girl'.
It can be quite a temptation when the pimpette (or delivery girl) looks as good as the girl she is delivering. The "delivery girl" will almost always be grateful to join in a threesome and the all-in cost will still be less than a single shot Bangkok MP. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Indeed. A sweet dilemma for the punter to go with one or both (wink). For me, it would be difficult to say 'No' in such situations.
Cheers.
Indonesia has introduced a unified digital portal, named "All Indonesia", to streamline immigration, customs, and health procedures into a single form, replacing multiple separate processes like SATUSEHAT (health declaration) and e-CD (customs declaration) online forms.
Travelers fill out this form within 3 days (ideally 72 hours) prior to arrival.Thank you for pointing this out.
Indeed it brings digital card, customs declaration, and health declaration, under one hat. I advise using the app. The app asks about your visa number, so it is not impossible that the QR code is all that you need, ie maybe no need to show the visa.
Thank you for pointing this out.
Indeed it brings digital card, customs declaration, and health declaration, under one hat. I advise using the app. The app asks about your visa number, so it is not impossible that the QR code is all that you need, ie maybe no need to show the visa.That is correct if I remember correctly. Only that one QR-code was required, but I didn't bother using the app. Filled out from my computer using the web interface.
I only found out about it by coincidence, after I had already filled out all the other forms you used to need to fill out unfortunately.
That's a different 1 plus 1 offer without discount. Hope you had a great time with the 'delivery girl' and the 'delivered girl'.
Cheers.Yeah, I did. A different girl (who I banged alone some days ago, from michat) brought over a friend earlier today. This time I asked how much it would cost for the threesome while we were walking to my room, and no discount offered indeed. I said ok, but then I will finish two times (as at Classic), but even that she refused. So I said, ok, just the friend then. Hoped she would offer a lower price then, but no, she was walking out the door after bringing her friend in. Told her to wait a second while the door was open, before walking out, and changed my own mind instead. :-/
Maybe Classic (and presumably Travel) are a bit unique in the excellent discount they offer for two girls. I mean, not only is it only 30% more expensive, but you also get 50% more time and an additional shot.
Saw later today BTW that Classic now seems to have added some 30,000 entry fee for those who do not buy anything / have some minimum spend there, while it's still 5,000 as before for those who do buy something, if I understood it correctly. Girl by the entrance was polite enough to warn me and ask if it was ok before I entered.
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