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Yeah, I did.
Great.
Saw later today BTW that Classic now seems to have added some 30,000 entry fee for those who do not buy anything / have some minimum spend there, while it's still 5,000 as before for those who do buy something, if I understood it correctly. Girl by the entrance was polite enough to warn me and ask if it was ok before I entered.That's interesting. The management probably noticed that there are some 'lurkers at the club' who just want to enjoy the Classic cohort visually rather than employing their services. I think 30 K is fee charged for a bottle of water or soft drink. Can someone confirm on this part?
My usual order is beer, when I'm at these establishments. Bintang is fine, though observed that Guinness available have a different taste. Cheers.
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Maybe Classic (and presumably Travel) are a bit unique in the excellent discount they offer for two girls. I mean, not only is it only 30% more expensive, but you also get 50% more time and an additional shot.
...Excellent deal, though not ideal if you want to go bareback, as I assume a girl will be reluctant to appear "dirty" in front of another girl.
Excellent deal, though not ideal if you want to go bareback, as I assume a girl will be reluctant to appear "dirty" in front of another girl.Glad to bring that point.
What if the punter finds a chica who's OK with bareback (even with an extra tip) at the establishment and this primera chica finds another like minded chica friend of hers for a threesome bang (at the establishment or outside). Well it is not very easy but plausible (wink).
Cheers.
Great.
That's interesting. The management probably noticed that there are some 'lurkers at the club' who just want to enjoy the Classic cohort visually rather than employing their services. I think 30 K is fee charged for a bottle of water or soft drink. Can someone confirm on this part?Yep, I can confirm this. I drink water sometimes, and it costs 28 k.
The 30 K minimum spend came in about 10 days ago. But it doesn't mean that we have to buy a drink. I normally drink nothing, but because I take two girls separately to the room, the minimum spend amount is already taken care of, since I'm spending 365 k X 2.
Without sounding pedantic, if anyone is interested in exact numbers, if you go in Classic T2, or T5, pick a girl, bang her, and pay with a credit card after the deed, then your total cost will be 380 K (This is 365 K for girl, 5 k for entry charge, 10 k for paying with credit card). There is no 30 k added, because you've already spent over that.
Here's a little minute: if you go in, bang a girl, have some rest, then bang another girl, and go to pay the bill using your credit card, you'll be charged 20 K for using the CC, rather than 10 k. So, your total bill will be 755 k (365 + 365 + 5 + 20).
Sari Ayu, in KI, charges 20 K per payment with a card, so if you choose a girl, then you actually pay 420 K (400 for girl, 20 k for the CC).
This is in line with similar immigration policies to Malaysia & Singapore, glad Indonesia has introduced it as well, no more standing in front of desktops at the arrival belt now on. I don't know how but can someone mark this report as a report of distinction so that arrival form can be downloaded by now and in future by all mongers.
Indonesia has introduced a unified digital portal, named "All Indonesia", to streamline immigration, customs, and health procedures into a single form, replacing multiple separate processes like SATUSEHAT (health declaration) and e-CD (customs declaration) online forms.
Travelers fill out this form within 3 days (ideally 72 hours) prior to arrival.
To any newbies / potential arrivals, asking "Is it safe to come to Jakarta?" and "Is Classic still open? Well, today, Thursday at 6:15 pm, I had to wait almost 20 minutes for a room to become free (at T2). The place was buzzing with action. Normally, waiting for rooms happens much later.
Pussy over Protests, I guess.
Saw later today BTW that Classic now seems to have added some 30,000 entry fee for those who do not buy anything / have some minimum spend there, while it's still 5,000 as before for those who do buy something, if I understood it correctly. Girl by the entrance was polite enough to warn me and ask if it was ok before I entered.Still way better than other places like for example fashion hotel spa where you pay 150 K entrance fee just to see the girls.
Still way better than other places like for example fashion hotel spa where you pay 150 K entrance fee just to see the girls.Mmm. Can't remember ever buying anything to drink at Classic, but not often I've walked out of Classic without finding a girl (maybe once or twice), so don't think it will affect me much. Guess I'll buy an ice coffee or something like that before leaving if it happens again from now on, or ask a girl I like, but don't want to bang again right now, if she wants something to drink.
Glad to bring that point.
What if the punter finds a chica who's OK with bareback (even with an extra tip) at the establishment and this primera chica finds another like minded chica friend of hers for a threesome bang (at the establishment or outside). Well it is not very easy but plausible (wink).
Cheers.I've had a handful of "threesomes" at Classic (I don't consider them real threesomes as there's no girl-on-girl), and it's the first time this has turned out to be a problem.
Normally I find a girl I like, and if I want another girl to join us (usually not, but sometimes), I will ask if she has any friends who wants to go with us. If the friend is also attractive to me and gives a decent vibe, off we go. In cases like that, I don't expect any new problems to turn up. When they're friends, the most "open minded" girl will influence the behaviour of the other girl in most cases, not the other way around. Even if the other girl does not want to do something, she will not rat out her friend for doing that same thing, or make her friend feel genuinely uncomfortable about it (IME, they'll just bicker a bit about it, good hearted).
The problem was that this time I did not do that. Mama told me she had two new ("new", haha. One girl I had already banged twice, first time over a year ago, last time even on mama's recommendation) girls she thought I would like. She was right about that, but those two girls were not (yet) friends, and one supposedly only started working at Classic the day before (who knows, maybe mama was honest, and thought about this girl when saying she had new girls, or I heard wrong). This was my mistake, but it was my first day back at Classic and I was a horny fucker and rolled the dice.
Got to say the new girl was cool except for that though. Tried to feel the new girl's vibes before taking her, and she was cool from start to finish, plus prettier than the girl I had already banged a couple of times. Might even repeat once with that new girl by herself, unless it turns out she's become pissed at me for how I acted. Or even then. ;-)
Anyway, it all turned out ok. :-)
Muzungufotsy
09-05-25, 15:07
To any newbies / potential arrivals, asking "Is it safe to come to Jakarta?" and "Is Classic still open? Well, today, Thursday at 6:15 pm, I had to wait almost 20 minutes for a room to become free (at T2). The place was buzzing with action. Normally, waiting for rooms happens much later.
Pussy over Protests, I guess.Nothing to do with that. Today is a Muslim holiday so yesterday was like a Saturday night then of course locals come early because they don't work the next day.
Protests are down because people who demonstrated obtained a bit of a victory and because government said it will shoot on sight on looters but all problems are not solved by far.
Yeah mongers are selfish and stupid I know.
Personally when I'm a guest in a country I respect people and I don't wish them to die in a demo.
And I certainly don't go in a brothel on a Saturday night.
I've had a handful of "threesomes" at Classic (I don't consider them real threesomes as there's no girl-on-girl), and it's the first time this has turned out to be a problem.
I've had a few "threesomes" at Classic and Travel, and obviously the ones at Classic were way better than the Travel. It can either go wonderfully great or completely spoil the mood. In one session where it went well, I invited a cute 22 yo girl with braided hairstyle and her younger slightly thicker friend to go with me. We all three first got in the shower, had a great three-way deep french kissing both in shower and bed for good 15 minutes, and they took turns going down on me while the other kissing and rubbing me all over, and then finished one after the other. Actually, I liked her friend more than the first main girl I picked, so much so that I took just her again the next day.
At Classic 365 K for one and 500 K for two is too tempting not to try it, heads you win, tails you don't lose much because in most of the countries and cities I've tried this, the cost is at least double, if not higher. So, have at them and enjoy while you are there.
LetMeIn6969
09-05-25, 20:53
In anticipation for my next trip to Indonesia, I tried to install Michat while abroad but Google Play store won't let me because of wrong region. So I did some research and successfully installed Michat without an Indo phone number, here are the steps for Android users:
1. Download Michat apk from this website: https://michat.en.softonic.com/android?ex=RAMP-3538.1&rex=true.
2. Install it, you probably have to put your phone into developer mode.
3. Register with Michat.
4. When it asks for an Indo phone number, go here https://quackr.io/temporary-numbers/indonesia.
5. Enter the FREE number without +62.
6. Michat will now register you and you're DONE!
I bought a Simpati phone number with 80 GB at the airport for 35 euros. I specified I wanted a physical SIM with a phone number and phone functionalities (ie not just data). I also specified I was interested in receiving phone calls from abroad, not so much in calling foreign numbers. Now it turns out my phone number can do only that: receive phone calls from abroad. It can neither send nor receive SMSs! It also shows up as "SIM 3" on my dual SIM Android, which is not a good sign since it is the only SIM inside so it should show as SIM 1 or SIM 2.
I assumed if a package has phone functionalities it will automatically be able to do SMS. Why are they doing this? Would it break the bank for a package to include a few dozens of text messages? I was thinking of using text messages to set up a dedicated Whatsapp and Telegram account on my second smartphone. I suspect the calls from abroad will be some kind of Voip, so it will not be able to receive verifying phone calls from Whatsapp or Telegram.
I hate to get screwed by crippled technology.
HappyFarang
09-06-25, 05:11
Chilli1 seems to be correct in that you seem to only have posted questions in all your posts though, regarding both Indonesia and places you've already been.
Time to step up and contribute some reports of your own.That's not true at all. I reported back in Thailand and have been thanked for it. Please don't make stuff up if you haven't looked properly, you make me look like an ungrateful see*nt and it's not nice my friend.
Anyways, I've been to Lokasari and Classic Terminal 5.
Lokasari is exactly how I expected it. You walk from the main big road in the South and keep walking towards the KFC. It's the stretch between the main road and the KFC. You will be approached from either the left or the right side. I was approached on 2 different days by an older woman and a younger man. They offer "ladies".
So anyways, I inspect the area on day 1. I am walking from Lokasari Square in the North toward the South, I am just walking past the KFC in the area under the building when a young man approaches me. He quotes 300 k. I say I'm too tired and will be back tomorrow. I keep walking towards the big road and a woman stops me and also offers ladies for 500 k. I say 300 k, she says no, I walk.
On day 2 I am back in the evening just before dark and a woman (maybe the same one) quotes 400 k. I say 300, she says 350. I repeat 300 and explain that a man had quoted 300, she says "okay" and walks towards the KFC. As we walk I tell her that I want young but at least 18, slim, okay okay let's go, so we go. There is a single woman inside this shack, slim, petite, pretty but messed up teeth. I don't mind but where are all the other "ladies" everyone is talking about? There's no one else. So she offers the girl and I accept. Now she wants 20 for "food". I had literally come with exactly 300 k because I had decided that I wasn't going to allow anyone to scam me, so I apologise and say "next time". Shouldn't have said that. WTF is going on? I never read about food charges or similar BS in these forums.
My hotel is close so we walk. She is sweet, we talk with my broken Indonesian. I completely forgot to ask her name. The deed is depressing. 50 seconds of owo, no eye contact, no initiative, no passion at all, then she decides that was enough and wants to move on to the sex. I'm an easy guy and I don't want to request things that are not being spontaneously offered so I go with it. I had prepared a condom (I would always use a condom) but just out of curiosity I ask if she does tanpa condom, and she says no. This is funny because when we entered the hotel room I mentioned the condom and pulled it out, and she seems slightly surprised. Sex is similar, very uninspiring, but she is vocal so at least there was that. It wasn't bad. Obviously no kissing at all.
So 15 minutes have passed since we entered the room and she is rushing to wash and leave. I'm laughing within myself at how shitty this was. I don't know what possessed me to offer a tip since she is literally getting dressed eager to leave, so I stop her saying "wait" as she is about to open the door, she stops for a second and she seems confused, she only wants to leave. I repeat "wait, tip", and she's like thank you bye. I gave her 50 k.
Now just to be clear, I am clean, polite, pleasant, and she was perfectly okay with me. She just wanted to get the fuck out. A more decent girl would have stayed, chatted, made an effort. This was just very poor service, nothing to do with me.
I will do Classic later today maybe tomorrow but it was a completely different experience. =).
Let me tell you that Lokasari really disappointed me in every possible way. I don't think I'll ever go back to that place. Maybe I got unlucky.
HappyFarang
09-06-25, 05:17
Sorry I was going to ask:
Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.
If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?
Thanks as always.
€35 that's insane bro. Indo nos are really cheap ideally should have paid between 10-15. You should have opted for Telkomsel or IM3, although former is better. Getting a SIM in the city center is a pain and tedious process.
I bought a Simpati phone number with 80 GB at the airport for 35 euros. I specified I wanted a physical SIM with a phone number and phone functionalities (ie not just data). I also specified I was interested in receiving phone calls from abroad, not so much in calling foreign numbers. Now it turns out my phone number can do only that: receive phone calls from abroad. It can neither send nor receive SMSs! It also shows up as "SIM 3" on my dual SIM Android, which is not a good sign since it is the only SIM inside so it should show as SIM 1 or SIM 2.
I assumed if a package has phone functionalities it will automatically be able to do SMS. Why are they doing this? Would it break the bank for a package to include a few dozens of text messages? I was thinking of using text messages to set up a dedicated Whatsapp and Telegram account on my second smartphone. I suspect the calls from abroad will be some kind of Voip, so it will not be able to receive verifying phone calls from Whatsapp or Telegram..
Muzungufotsy
09-06-25, 06:45
That's not true at all. I reported back in Thailand and have been thanked for it. Please don't make stuff up if you haven't looked properly, you make me look like an ungrateful see*nt and it's not nice my friend.
Anyways, I've been to Lokasari and Classic Terminal 5.
Lokasari is exactly how I expected it. You walk from the main big road in the South and keep walking towards the KFC. It's the stretch between the main road and the KFC. You will be approached from either the left or the right side. I was approached on 2 different days by an older woman and a younger man. They offer "ladies".
So anyways, I inspect the area on day 1. I am walking from Lokasari Square in the North toward the South, I am just walking past the KFC in the area under the building when a young man approaches me. He quotes 300 k. I say I'm too tired and will be back tomorrow. I keep walking towards the big road and a woman stops me and also offers ladies for 500 k. I say 300 k, she says no, I walk.
On day 2 I am back in the evening just before dark and a woman (maybe the same one) quotes 400 k. I say 300, she says 350. I repeat 300 and explain that a man had quoted 300, she says "okay" and walks towards the KFC. As we walk I tell her that I want young but at least 18, slim, okay okay let's go, so we go. There is a single woman inside this shack, slim, petite, pretty but messed up teeth. I don't mind but where are all the other "ladies" everyone is talking about? There's no one else. So she offers the girl and I accept. Now she wants 20 for "food". I had literally come with exactly 300 k because I had decided that I wasn't going to allow anyone to scam me, so I apologise and say "next time". Shouldn't have said that. WTF is going on? I never read about food charges or similar BS in these forums..The real question is why did you give a tip for shit service?
And no you didn't get unlucky.
Mamis only care about commission not about service.
Offshore Swell
09-06-25, 06:51
Venues like Classic, Kota Indah bars and Travel Hotel are reliable meat markets for sure AR.Kota Indah not without it's risks, something bad went down there recently and Star Moon bar now closed with entrance door all taped up with yellow police tape. Tried to get the story out of a friend in security from one of the other bars but it's very hush hush. Apparently it wasn't good.
Expat American
09-06-25, 07:29
Let me tell you that Lokasari really disappointed me in every possible way. I don't think I'll ever go back to that place. Maybe I got unlucky.And what about this surprised you? You claim to have read the reports and many of us (myself included) have described Lokasari exactly as you described it. Yet over an over again for some reason people seem to think its like Sukhumvit or some plaza in Medellin or something based on nothing but their imagination. Well at least you saw for yourself.
That's not true at all. I reported back in Thailand and have been thanked for it. Please don't make stuff up if you haven't looked properly, you make me look like an ungrateful see*nt and it's not nice my friend.
Let me tell you that Lokasari really disappointed me in every possible way. I don't think I'll ever go back to that place. Maybe I got unlucky.Good report!
I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:
1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.
The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.
HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.
I'll do doxocycline only. I've had two shots of the Brexsero vaccine already. I may take 800 MG of Cefixime before I fly back to Thailand just to be on the safe side. The last thing I want is to give gonorrhea to my long-standing bareback regular Thai girl.
I sessioned 3 girls in Classic today. I don't recount my barebacking success here in this post because I don't want Classic staff who possibly read of this forum to be able to identify the girl(s). Something I was told today suggests BBFS might be against Classic house rules.
I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:
1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.
The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.
HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.
Depending on how quickly the side effects became noticeable / uncomfortable, you might want to look into the alternative regime of "2-1-1". Instead of daily, it's on demand, though you have to start at least two hours before sex. May or may not be an alternative for you.
Sorry I was going to ask:
Is there any REAL good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.
If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?
Thanks as always. =).I've seen people here mention 300-500, and I may have been offered extra for 500 ekstra at a hotel I was staying before, though not sure I remember right.
Currently I go to a massage place in a nearby mall for "sports massage". I get the same old bat everytime, and have to reserve in advance, as it seems she's the only woman there who does sports massage (they have a list of other massages, which other women do also, but sports massage: it seems only this women, or males). I pay around 200 k for 90 minutes and the massage is competent enough. Tipped her 50,000 the first time (I had no idea, so just made a guess), which she seemed overjoyed with.
No recommendations unfortunately, but if a place / staff does sport massage also (in addition to all the other stuff), odds are somewhat higher they will do other massages too somewhat better than average.
I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effectsWhich Prep medication did you use?
Truvada is the old Prep, you can get it easily and for cheap in many Thai pharmacies but it has more side-effects.
And there is the new Descovy with less side-effects but you might have to go to pulse clinic to get a prescription.
Steve 9696
09-06-25, 16:11
I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:
1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.
The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.
HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.
I'll do doxocycline only. I've had two shots of the Brexsero vaccine already. I may take 800 MG of Cefixime before I fly back to Thailand just to be on the safe side. The last thing I want is to give gonorrhea to my long-standing bareback regular Thai girl.
I sessioned 3 girls in Classic today. I don't recount my barebacking success here in this post because I don't want Classic staff who possibly read of this forum to be able to identify the girl(s). Something I was told today suggests BBFS might be against Classic house rules.Just feel compelled to point out that the chances of a guy getting HIV from vaginal sex are 4 in 10000. And that assumes the girl has it. If you figure the worst case scenario that one in ten girls has it (way over estimated) then your chances of getting it from pussy sex are 4 in 100,000. More likely to be hit by lightning. Truly.
Which Prep medication did you use?
Truvada is the old Prep, you can get it easily and for cheap in many Thai pharmacies but it has more side-effects.
And there is the new Descovy with less side-effects but you might have to go to pulse clinic to get a prescription.Excellent point. Totally forgot about that.
Sorry I was going to ask:
Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.
If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?
Thanks as always.There are quite a few options available. It's definitely not like Thailand where you find one on every corner, but still enough to choose from. I've seen many of them in Mangga Besar, Pasar Baru, China Town, Blok M. A traditional massage usually costs anywhere from 150 K at a simple, no-frills place to around 400 K at nicer establishments, with 250 K being about the average for an hour.
Most hotels have an in-house option where they will come to your room, or you can simply search "Pijat" or "Refleksi" on Google to find nearby places where you can walk in. Many also offer home service and can come to your hotel, and you'll often find massage centers in shopping centers / malls as well.
Some of the ones I tried, Rasa Reflexi, Lokasari Reflexi, Cici massage, Halona Spa, Shanghai Kop & Relaksasi, Pijat tradisional Wahid Hasyim. These are strictly massage.
The ones that offer extra including hotels, spas, quote ridiculous prices about 500 K to 1000 K for he. I normally decline them unless I really like the girl like the ones in underground Spa at Classic.
Rajdasking
09-06-25, 23:07
I get the point you're making, and I agree to some extent. But if we're talking about wanted sex and weighing cost, experience, and consistency, sugar babies come out on top. You get regular, high-quality sex, minimal drama, and a clear understanding of expectations. It's transactional, yes, but there's usually effort on both sides to maintain the arrangement, which makes the experience more enjoyable.
Also, if you're someone who prefers full, bareback sex and finishing inside, you're almost guaranteed that with sugar babies. Then girlfriends. Then, depending on the dynamics, maybe your wife. With prostitutes, it's rarely on the table unless you pay significantly more. And even then, it depends on her mood and how you handle it.
So if you factor in quality, consistency, cost, and overall satisfaction, sugar babies offer the best return on investment.Glad ure enjoying jak sb scene mate!
Sorry I was going to ask:
Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.
If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?
Thanks as always.This really is a 'how long is a piece of string' type of question. Indo massages can be everything from a fully legitimate and skillfully delivered deep tissue massage to a barely concealed fuck joint. Jakarta has numerous of both and everything in between.
A cheap massage will either be a crap prelude to extra services or a grandma who will have you screaming in pain in minutes 😭. Don't expect any stunning girls from the ones who do offer extras.
A very rough guide is that a happy ending HJ costs about as much as the massage itself and, if FS is available, it may be. 3 or 4 x markup. As mentioned elsewhere, for 4 or 5 star hotels that have in room options the girls may ask at least 1 jt just for a HJ.
My recommendation is to keep an eye out while moving around your area. A 'Massage' is more likely to be a straight massage. A 'Panti Pijat' will have extras and a 'Kebugaran' will be the same but likely pretty seedy. This is just a rough guide and the quality of the massage itself varies wildly between individual providers.
Enjoy. G.
HappyFarang
09-07-25, 04:28
The real question is why did you give a tip for shit service?I regretted that. It won't happen again.
And what about this surprised you? You claim to have read the reports and many of us (myself included) have described Lokasari exactly as you described it. Yet over an over again for some reason people seem to think its like Sukhumvit or some plaza in Medellin or something based on nothing but their imagination. Well at least you saw for yourself.It was worth trying it once just to see it and report back. I can picture it being decent if you deal with the right person and get the right girl. I read about people getting poor service everywhere, Lokasari may just be more risky.
No recommendations unfortunately, but if a place / staff does sport massage also (in addition to all the other stuff), odds are somewhat higher they will do other massages too somewhat better than average.Good advice thanks!
Some of the ones I tried, Rasa Reflexi, Lokasari Reflexi, Cici massage, Halona Spa, Shanghai Kop & Relaksasi, Pijat tradisional Wahid Hasyim. These are strictly massage.
The ones that offer extra including hotels, spas, quote ridiculous prices about 500 K to 1000 K for he. I normally decline them unless I really like the girl like the ones in underground Spa at Classic.At these rates it's a little ridiculous. 1 juta for a happy ending? Better get a normal good massage for 100-150 k and then see a regular working girl then.
Thanks for the names of the massage places!
My recommendation is to keep an eye out while moving around your area. A 'Massage' is more likely to be a straight massage. A 'Panti Pijat' will have extras and a 'Kebugaran' will be the same but likely pretty seedy. This is just a rough guide and the quality of the massage itself varies wildly between individual providers.
Enjoy. G.Thanks! I was wondering what all these different names for massage are for. I was playing with MiChat (haven't done anything with it yet) and I keep saying three or four different names for massage. Of course I learned about "bo" too.
Welcome field report. Back seat punter here. If I read correctly into this post, the OP haggled to pay pretty much the least possible and paid IN ADVANCE? After the girl realized that the punter didn't have even one euro (IDR20 k) to spare, without any other incentive to be a proactive provider, perhaps it is no surprise that the she was gagging to get it over with so she can get back to mami or papi to get her (probably half) cut. Word of advice is not to pay in advance with Lokasari girls. And if they start messing about, act calmly, reasonably and firmly to manage the situation.After reading the field reports carefully it was my understanding that you must pay the agent (not the girl) in advance if you want to take the girl, and then you tip the girl after the deed. I don't think my approach was wrong. You could be right in that I should have said something about tipping when we were chatting during our walk to the hotel, but my feeling is that that wasn't the reason for the poor service.
HappyFarang
09-07-25, 04:37
Classic Hotel: you enter from the main hotel entrance on the South. For Terminal 5, walk counterclockwise around the central cafe / escalators island, until you reach the "Toilets Lift" sign. That's where you take the lift to the 5th floor.
There was a man behind a counter who pretended to pat me before letting me walk toward the reception where I was met by two beautiful girls in cosplay-like clothing, coloured contact lenses and other ethereal frills. Who are they? It didn't look like they were available. They gave me a numbered bracelet and allowed me onto the floor.
It's a big floor, one big area, with two sitting sofa areas where all the girls are waiting. The place had just opened (6 PM) so it wasn't busy, just 2 or 3 groups of Asians sitting at the back tables. As I walked toward the middle of the floor a mamasan, who was sitting at one of the tables, started walking towards me as she gesticulated "come come" with her hands. I kept it simple: "I like slim young and friendly". For some reason she inspired trust in me: she exuded this honest "I have the right girl for you" aura.
She pulls out a green laser and points it at a blonde girl who was sitting with the other girls in the farthest sofa area. She was sleeping, with her head tilted back, face toward the ceiling, mouth wide open. I threw a quick gaze at the other girls and I have to say it was unsightly, verging on an abomination. It was a surreal view: the golden haired sleeping beauty not giving a fuck about the rest of the world in the midst of an amass of alert mediocrity with a huge green laser on her face, the girl next to her poking her awake.
I explained to the mamasan that I wanted to chat with her for a bit so that's what we did. She is a sweet girl. I signed the piece of paper with my number and the name of the girl and off we went to a respectable room with a bed, a small table, a shower and a big mirror.
I won't go into great detail on the meeting itself. We have a shower, chat and joke a little before we are ready to start. She likes kissing: perfect. She suggests using the condom for the blowjob, I suggest without, she suggests a tip. Average blowjob, good sex, in fact she rides me vigorously with a back and forth motion (without pulling in-out) for a good 3-4 minutes to make herself reach an orgasm. Spectacular.
I didn't notice if there was a clock in the room, but I was in the room for a maximum of 40 minutes. Next time I'll know to take things more slowly.
Very good first experience, but I feel like I was lucky. The other girls looked too unattractive. I had a good look at the girls in the sofa area closest to the entrance as I was paying and man oh man.
Damage: paid by card so 380 k rupiah, plus the 100 k tip to the girl, total 480 k paid.
Next time I want to see Terminal 2.
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Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.
If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?
Thanks as always.Even in the first decade of the century, when Jakarta was one big Roman orgy and night-life was five times as big as it is now, massages with happy ending were already considered overpriced by most mongers on this forum. It was only worth it if you liked spending time doing sauna, having the dead skin on your feet gnawed by fish etc. Venues were popular with Japanese men. I'm talking about clean, upmarket venues. I remember "Delta massage" somewhere south of Blok M.
In fact the best "masseuses" I ever got were those from Mercure Ayam Wuruk where I was staying. They would allow full service, not just handjob, at a reasonable surcharge. I surmise hotel masseuses might be the best deal in Jakarta, unless Mercure was an exception in allowing their masseuses to give full service to hotel guests.
I won't go into great detail on the meeting itself. We have a shower, chat and joke a little before we are ready to start. She likes kissing: perfect. She suggests using the condom for the blowjob, I suggest without, she suggests a tip. Average blowjob, good sex, ..Girls charging extra for a BBBJ? That sucks.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erudite-risk_penyegelan-starmoon-bar-tamansari-juga-peringatan-activity-7364900495389282304-EJ2D
A single underage girl gets knocked up, so goodbye to the entire Star Moon venue to be made an example. Even Google has it as "Permanently Closed". Expect to see even more oldies and chubbies at the remaining KI bars. I wouldn't be surprised that this sends a message to other venues as well. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
It is disappointing that this bar is closed, and even more troubling to read about the reason. It used to be one of the oldest and most popular bars in its day, but lately it was dull and desperate for business. I have never seen anything illegal during my visits there, everyone seemed to be legal age and older compared to other KI bars, but who really knows. Hope one unfortunate incident at this bar doesn't lead to the closure of other bars.
It is disappointing that this bar is closed, and even more troubling to read about the reason. It used to be one of the oldest and most popular bars in its day, but lately it was dull and desperate for business. I have never seen anything illegal during my visits there, everyone seemed to be legal age and older compared to other KI bars, but who really knows. Hope one unfortunate incident at this bar doesn't lead to the closure of other bars.I see police drive in and pick up "donations", was told Starmoon was the only independent bar. Had great memories there years ago.
All the other KI bars are run / own by 1 group. So this will be a total monopoly for them.
Sari Ayu's line-up is usually complete at 4 pm. Yesterday there was not even a line-up to speak of. Only a handful of fatties who were not even dressed-up. I hope this is only a Sunday effect.I drank a coke, used the toilet and went.
LoveItHere69
09-08-25, 05:10
All the other KI bars are run / own by 1 group. So this will be a total monopoly for them.ASTRO and HAPPY (almost across from each other) are also independent. But each only has around 15 girls. I did find one that I liked and took her twice.
Sari Ayu's line-up is usually complete at 4 pm.You sure? I've been there many times (on a weekday though), and lot of girls arrive at 5 pm. Some even at 6 pm. In fact, I was supposed to go there yesterday, but texted a couple of my favourites there and neither said she's be in Sari. So, I ordered home delivery from another girl that I know from Classic. Sundays, though, is usually a little quieter.
LoveItHere69
09-08-25, 09:08
Forgot, "V" (Vfour) nearest the street, is also independent.
While swallowing my 200 MG doxocycline in the Classic room after the deed, I noticed my girl was also tearing up some aluminium-wrapped medication. What could it be? Some kind of PreP? Some anti-baby thing? I enquired: it was trihexyphenidyle, a medication formely prescribed for Parkinson's. I asked her whether there was anything wrong with her brain. She replied she was taking it for endurance, to "help her in her work". Well, well, well. I guess that's the war on drugs for you. As drugs get suppressed, people in search of a high fall back on whatever is available.
Puri Sehat is a massage place a 5 minutes' ride from Classic. They wanted 112 k IDR from us just for looking. We said "next time" and left. My wingman called a motorbike Gojek back to Classic. My plan was to go to Grand Indonesia but 3 taxis cancelled the ride after accepting it and keeping me waiting. Why do cabbies accept only to ask me to cancel? If I hadn't gone back to the hotel on foot I'd still be there seeing taxis cancelling one ride after the other.
On the way back I passed a laudry shop where you pay kilowise. It's in the basement of Heef Hotel not far from the bridge leading from the Classic side of the road to the Pasar Baru side.
Wanting a variation from that old bat who's been giving me sports massage at the mall the last couple of days, I ventured into a hotel I've been passing by daily, and which has a big "24 h massage" banner displayed both outside on the road and on the hotel itself, thinking it might be a somewhat big and competent massage place.
Two receptionists, one semi-attractive, were sitting there when I arrived. I asked if I could choose masseuse? No, have some queue system, but all are female. Ok, what kind of massage is it? Apparently a confusing question, but was told it's full body. Ok, sports massage, oil massage, what kind? More confusion, but apparently I can tell the masseuse. Oh well, for 150,000 for 90 minutes it's not the world, so lets see. Maybe I'll get a pleasant surprise? Not bloody likely, but who knows. The receptionist also found it prudent to repeat to me a couple of times the price did not include a tip to the masseuse, to make sure there was no doubt about that.
Got a room key with room number written on it, and took the stairs up to the third floor. Looked like an ordinary, but very crappy, hotel room, with a somewhat musky smell. Had a bathroom and a shower, but couldn't see any towel. Fortunately, I had just returned from a session at Classic, and stopped by this massage place on the way back, so was freshly showered anyway.
Stripped down to my underwear at first, so I would at least be able to defend myself not completely naked if somebody stormed in, and laid down on the bed. After a long time, I was starting to wonder if there'd been some mixup and I had entered the wrong room somehow, as no masseuse were to be seen, but after 20+ minutes she finally arrived.
A not completely unattractive woman, around 30 years of age I guessed, entered. She later claimed to be 26. Once she had arrived I stripped off my boxers and laid down on my stomach, and she initially started with some type of dry massage. Something that could perhaps best be described as a sort of incompetent thai massage. Made me think that maybe she thought I was weird to strip down naked for what was a dry massage, but after some 10 minutes, she started to spray oil on my back, and continued a normal, mediocre, oil massage.
I was a bit unsure if junior would wake up or not, as in the morning I'd banged a michat girl, a young 6 (I'm starting to get the hang of michat, so kudos to GG, there is some truth in what he was saying, but it takes some practice), and some hours after that a girl at Classic, a young 8, while the woman currently massaging me looked like a 12 years older 5 at best. After about 50 minutes of massaging me back, during which time excused herself to use the in-room bathroom, which resulted in the incompetent plumbing bringing in another unpleasant odour, to mix with the already not overly pleasant smell in the room once she flushed, she asked me to flip over and massaged my front for about 5 minutes, before asking me if I wanted her to massage junior, who had by now against all reason, woken up. Unfortunately he even wakes up when that old bat gives me the sports massage, so is bit of an embarrassment at times, and nothing any woman should take as a compliment. I told her no thanks, and a minute later she told me ok, finished, and asked me if I wanted to take a shower.
I said yes, thank you, but then checked the time, and enquired a bit as to why I had paid for 90 minutes, but she only massaged for 60 minutes? The reason was, apparently, that "some customers like to take a long shower". I told her ok, never mind then, no need to take shower, can continue massage.
She then told me that the time started once I went up to the room, and showed me some paper that had a timestamp of around 80 minutes earlier. I told her that she only arrived in the room 20 minutes after that. She then started to type something into google translate, which she had been using for the communication so far, but at this point I knew it was a lost cause, so I just typed "never mind" into my own google translate, and had a shower.
The woman was still waiting in the room when I got out of the shower, at which point I put on my clothes, said a half-hearted thanks and bye, and walked out without looking back.
Tip: 0. Repeat: No.
Puri Sehat is a massage place a 5 minutes' ride from Classic. They wanted 112 k IDR from us just for looking. We said "next time" and left. My wingman called a motorbike Gojek back to Classic. My plan was to go to Grand Indonesia but 3 taxis cancelled the ride after accpeting it and keeping me waiting. Why do cabbies accept only to ask me to cancel? If I hadn't gone back to the hotel on foot I'd still be there seeing taxis cancelling one ride after the other.
Assuming Gojek, like Grab, has different fare options, I'm guessing another customer offered to pay more, or there was some traffic issue. I normally choose the cheapest option, but if I've already received a couple of cancellations and don't want to wait any more, I choose one of the more expensive fare options in the app, which usually results in a faster acceptance and no further cancellations.
Assuming Gojek, like Grab, has different fare options, I'm guessing another customer offered to pay more, or there was some traffic issue. I normally choose the cheapest option, but if I've already received a couple of cancellations and don't want to wait any more, I choose one of the more expensive fare options in the app, which usually results in a faster acceptance and no further cancellations.I now always choose the "faster" option in Gojek. God knows what would've happened today if I'd chosen the cheapest. Probably they'd have waited an additional 5 minutes before cancelling.
Wanting a variation from that old bat who's been giving me sports massage at the mall the last couple of days, I ventured into a hotel I've been passing by daily, and which has a big "24 h massage" banner displayed both outside on the road and on the hotel itself, thinking it might be a somewhat big and competent massage place.
Tip: 0. Repeat: No.Deja Vu at Hotel Mustika in Gajah Mada, my first time was not bad, but the second time was utterly disappointing.
Puri Sehat is a massage place a 5 minutes' ride from Classic. They wanted 112 k IDR from us just for looking. We said "next time" and left. My wingman called a motorbike Gojek back to Classic. My plan was to go to Grand Indonesia but 3 taxis cancelled the ride after accepting it and keeping me waiting. Why do cabbies accept only to ask me to cancel? If I hadn't gone back to the hotel on foot I'd still be there seeing taxis cancelling one ride after the other.Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.
As soon as I land in the airport, I take their promo subscription as well which is around 75 k for 10 coupons or something where you get a percentage discount per ride for 10 rides. Their cabs have been good for me. Only one negative experience so far where I was dropped a few meters away from a mall due to traffic where the driver convinced me that was the drop location allocated for Mall but it was very evident he was dropping me due to traffic and he was able to take a you-Turn. That is a very small bad event but otherwise cancellations problem was never there on Blue Bird.
Gaijin Gigolo
09-09-25, 13:36
Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.
As soon as I land in the airport, I take their promo subscription as well which is around 75 k for 10 coupons or something where you get a percentage discount per ride for 10 rides. Their cabs have been good for me. Only one negative experience so far where I was dropped a few meters away from a mall due to traffic where the driver convinced me that was the drop location allocated for Mall but it was very evident he was dropping me due to traffic and he was able to take a you-Turn. That is a very small bad event but otherwise cancellations problem was never there on Blue Bird.Yeah, I used to take Bluebird once in a while until I had two or three drivers in a row try to take me to the wrong drop-off or try to tell me he couldn't get to where I needed be. Once ******* couldn't find the restaurant I was looking for and had the never to tell me to get out and walk and try to find it. I told him I'm not leaving your car until you get me to where I'm pay you to take me. If you don't know the area, then don't accept the effing ride, moron.
Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.
When a Bluebird waits in front of the hotel or the mall, it is obviously the fastest option because you don't have to call and wait for a Grab. They are a little bit more expensive than Grab, but still quite cheap. Actually often when it rains the surge pricing makes grab more expensive than bluebird.
I still don't use bluebird a lot because many of the cars are smelly. I think this happens because the drivers spend a lot of time waiting in their cars without air-conditioning.
HappyFarang
09-09-25, 14:26
Quick report on Classic Terminal 2.
My first time. Friendly mamasan, but she immediately picks one girls that I don't like. I'm a bit shy and don't want to send her away so I chat with her for a few minutes while I muster the courage to ask for a different girl, which I do.
The new girl seems great. We have a good chat, she is fun to talk to, so we call the Ibu.
Well we are in the room getting started and she doesn't kiss. That's 50% of the fun gone. Then she literally opens the condom without warning and tries to put it on for blowjob. I stop her, utterly confused, asking for an uncovered blowjob. This is 2 out of 2 times in Classic, covered blowjob must be the norm here. She gives a less than average owo for 1 minute and decides to stop. I ask her to keep going and she says "do you want another one? LOL I wasn't aware that blowjobs are things that are counted discretely. The "second" blowjob is better. Sex in various positions is okayish, she just doesn't seem to enjoy sex in general. Then the bad smell ruined it. I knew it was some kind of fungal infection which is gross.
After the deed, as we shower and get changed, it looks like her initial verve is all gone. We still chat, but she is somewhere else. This change of attitude kind of demolished anything salvageable. For me the before, during and after are all important. I picked the wrong girl, it happens.
After these two episodes in Classic, one positive and one negative, I decided to give Lokasari another chance. I don't know why but that's how I felt. Maybe I disliked all the bullshit you have to go through before you can pick a girl.
Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.
...I stick to Gojek because I want to pay by credit card. I keep my small change for tips. Even if Bluebirds accept credit card I wouldn't want to risk compromising my credit card each time I use a Bluebird. However, I may eventually come round to generating more small change and using Bluebird from time to time as there's no other alternative.
HappyFarang
09-09-25, 15:09
A question regarding MiChat.
Most girl don't have good pictures. Do you move the conversation to WhatsApp for a video call? I tried that a couple of times and didn't get responses. I thought they couldn't be bothered or they were fakes.
Should I make it obvious that I am a bule or communicate in Indonesian with Translate until they give me the local rate? I noticed that the girls who figure out that I am a foreigner (they start the conversation in English) quote insane amounts, like 1 juta plus.
If I'm not mistaken, from what I've seen in their profile description, the rates vary between 300 k and 600 k. I would not want to spend more than 500 k anyway.
Silver and bluebirds are more expensive than your Gojeks and Grab wheels but definitely more reliable. Almost at every hotel you'll see them parked on the porch.
Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.
As soon as I land in the airport, I take their promo subscription as well which is around 75 k for 10 coupons or something where you get a percentage discount per ride for 10 rides. Their cabs have been good for me. Only one negative experience so far where I was dropped a few meters away from a mall due to traffic where the driver convinced me that was the drop location allocated for Mall but it was very evident he was dropping me due to traffic and he was able to take a you-Turn. That is a very small bad event but otherwise cancellations problem was never there on Blue Bird.
A question regarding MiChat.
Most girl don't have good pictures. Do you move the conversation to WhatsApp for a video call? I tried that a couple of times and didn't get responses. I thought they couldn't be bothered or they were fakes.
Should I make it obvious that I am a bule or communicate in Indonesian with Translate until they give me the local rate? I noticed that the girls who figure out that I am a foreigner (they start the conversation in English) quote insane amounts, like 1 juta plus.
If I'm not mistaken, from what I've seen in their profile description, the rates vary between 300 k and 600 k. I would not want to spend more than 500 k anyway.
I'm sure GG can post something more useful, but a quick guide from my experience these past days.
- easier for the girls/admin if you translate from english to bahasa yourself. Somebody has to do it.
- price 300-400, upto 500 (only paid this once, and only because I had not yet discovered the "if you want without condom" rule.
- two girls: 800.
- if you want without condom, specify that when offering your price (300-400). Some will reject, but unlike e. G. Thailand, most will accept. The benefit of this is it avoids any possibly demands for extra money once on the bed, while nothing extra should be demanded for this.
- always ask for original, unfiltered photos, but don't expect to really get them. If photos look ok, proceed to video call. A lot of "free cancel if not like photo" nonsense, but usually you don't want to waste 30 minutes to wait for some fake to show up either, and then turn her away downstairs in the lobby. Also you don't want to risk any drama downstairs in the lobby, plus it probably looks a bit weird if you go up and down 6 six times during an evening (what I did my first day).
- videocall again once they say they've arrived at the hotel, before going down to meet, or as a minimum, selfie from the hotel. Usually quicker to just videocall again.
- prepare to waste a lot of time initially. After a while you kind of start to feel based on the conversation who is a fake.
While swallowing my 200 MG doxocycline in the Classic room after the deed, I noticed my girl was also tearing up some aluminium-wrapped medication. What could it be? Some kind of PreP? Some anti-baby thing? I enquired: it was trihexyphenidyle, a medication formely prescribed for Parkinson's. I asked her whether there was anything wrong with her brain. She replied she was taking it for endurance, to "help her in her work". Well, well, well. I guess that's the war on drugs for you. As drugs get suppressed, people in search of a high fall back on whatever is available.Trihexyphenidyl is abused due to a short acting mood-elevating and euphoric effect. It is quite common as is Happy5 - a lot of Malio and Classic girls have confirmed they use it. Sad thing is these girls are being fed these pills by the mamasans / managers to help them cope up. Which also explains the largely positive attitude of the girls in Jakarta. Drug abuse is a serious problem here.
Glad ure enjoying jak sb scene mate!Haha mate you've got to try the SB scene in HCMC Vietnam but not on Seeking please. There's no fun in offering an allowance / spoiling to someone who's already put her self up on that seeking brothel. Instead try direct approach at shopping malls, and regular dating apps. Bumble, Hinge, Tinder, TanTan etc. Let's evolve from fucking sugar babies to making sugar babies LOL. Introduce them to the sugar world!
Expat American
09-10-25, 14:36
This is 2 out of 2 times in Classic, covered blowjob must be the norm here. Only for you it seems. Out of dozens of experiences I have had zero covered BJ and over 90% BBFS. Most other posters here confirm the same. Not sure what it is about your looks or your little guy's look that's making the girls literally "run for cover". Now Travel on the other hand I have had uniformly bad experiences in CBJ and attitude in general. But Classic has always at least delivered the basics.
At Werqweq and other guys who have experience with michat girls.
Do you call the gojek for the girls and if so, have you noticed the location of the girls? Are they all over Jakarta or are they more concentrated in a certain area?
HolaaaaHiiii
09-10-25, 19:03
Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.
To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't ❤️ I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged women
Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.
To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't ❤️ I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged womenI've seen a few at Shangri La Bats Bar, CJ Mulia, and My Bar in Blok M, and also heard at Eastern Promise and Basque. I noticed a couple of Mamasans at Kota Indah and Kelapa Gading are quite a MILF, you can get their numbers and make plans.
Hung Man 1808
09-11-25, 00:47
Silver and bluebirds are more expensive than your Gojeks and Grab wheels but definitely more reliable. Almost at every hotel you'll see them parked on the porch.Bluebirds were good, till one outside the hotel tried to dud me with a fare 4 times the price it would be on the meter in 2023. That was the last time I've used a Bluebird. Grab and Gojek all the way since. It was also the first time in over 20 years that I have had them not turn the meter on immediately, and try and rip me off. Both happened at once which was a double whammy enough to avoid using.
I had been an adament user of the Bluebird app in the days before Uber, which may have shielded me from any funny business (still needed to pay in cash then) but the above experience was the first time I had just jumped into a Bluebird in years.
Silverbirds lost their lustre once the Toyota Crowns got taken off the roads. Oh for the days of a Silverbird for 100 k ALL NIGHT as your personal chauffeur. Mr popular as you club hopped with enough room with your chosen girl (s) for the night. And her friends.
Yes many in malls.
Since many people know classic.
Suggest you go to nearby mall that you can walk on same side or gojek.
Metro Pasar Baru mall 2nd floor.
There are few out open with chairs.
If you want to go inside room there is on right left side of elevator.
Tomoro cofee j. Co are on first floor.
You can see these in Google maps.
Sorry I was going to ask:
Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.
If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?
Thanks as always.
If you staying more than few weeks or going to be longer stay.
Have hour time.
Go to telkomsel Central Park mall.
There are few other locations but this location gave local price or was quick service.
That mall is ok place to hangout too.
I bought a Simpati phone number with 80 GB at the airport for 35 euros. I specified I wanted a physical SIM with a phone number and phone functionalities (ie not just data). I also specified I was interested in receiving phone calls from abroad, not so much in calling foreign numbers. Now it turns out my phone number can do only that: receive phone calls from abroad. It can neither send nor receive SMSs! It also shows up as "SIM 3" on my dual SIM Android, which is not a good sign since it is the only SIM inside so it should show as SIM 1 or SIM 2.
I assumed if a package has phone functionalities it will automatically be able to do SMS. Why are they doing this? Would it break the bank for a package to include a few dozens of text messages? I was thinking of using text messages to set up a dedicated Whatsapp and Telegram account on my second smartphone. I suspect the calls from abroad will be some kind of Voip, so it will not be able to receive verifying phone calls from Whatsapp or Telegram.
I hate to get screwed by crippled technology.
Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.
To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't ❤️ I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged womenI took on a subscription on Badoo and I'm not getting any hits from the age-range I want (18-30). I get some hits from MILFs in spite of my explicit age specification. Badoo might be something for you.
Can I get Viagra Generic in Jakarta at a pharmacy without prescription? If yes -- what is the price for the 100 MG pill?
HolaaaaHiiii
09-11-25, 16:28
I took on a subscription on Badoo and I'm not getting any hits from the age-range I want (18-30). I get some hits from MILFs in spite of my explicit age specification. Badoo might be something for you.I have tried Badoo and the rates ugly ugly milfs quote are stupid. A 2/10 quoted me 1 million ST LOL. Milfs seem to be super expensive in Jakarta. Sadly, I cannot travel to Thailand for a while due to some personal reasons.
At Werqweq and other guys who have experience with michat girls.
Do you call the gojek for the girls and if so, have you noticed the location of the girls? Are they all over Jakarta or are they more concentrated in a certain area?MiChat requires users to enable the Location to use the 'People Nearby' function to find other active MiChat users within a range of 5 km (source: google search).
In my experience, no girls from Michat asked to book a ride for them to visit my hotel. I was staying in the Central Jakarta then and number of active girls online as well as related success rate were not that high. Based on few reports from other fellow hobbyists, Lokasari area seemingly have high volume and better success rate.
Cheers.
I bought a Simpati phone number with 80 GB at the airport for 35 euros. I specified I wanted a physical SIM with a phone number and phone functionalities (ie not just data). I also specified I was interested in receiving phone calls from abroad, not so much in calling foreign numbers. Now it turns out my phone number can do only that: receive phone calls from abroad. It can neither send nor receive SMSs! It also shows up as "SIM 3" on my dual SIM Android, which is not a good sign since it is the only SIM inside so it should show as SIM 1 or SIM 2.
I assumed if a package has phone functionalities it will automatically be able to do SMS. Why are they doing this? Would it break the bank for a package to include a few dozens of text messages? I was thinking of using text messages to set up a dedicated Whatsapp and Telegram account on my second smartphone. I suspect the calls from abroad will be some kind of Voip, so it will not be able to receive verifying phone calls from Whatsapp or Telegram.
I hate to get screwed by crippled technology.Have an Indonesian you know purchase a cheap mobilephone (Samsung A5 series or similar) and a simcard. Top up the simcard as much as you want and use it as a hotspot to your daily phone.
Been doing that for years.
HappyFarang
09-12-25, 10:30
I'm sure GG can post something more useful, but a quick guide from my experience these past days.Very good thanks mate. I only do with condom so I won't have to worry about that, but good to know. 👍.
I'll try MiChat once I get a flat.
HappyFarang
09-12-25, 10:35
Only for you it seems. Out of dozens of experiences I have had zero covered BJ and over 90% BBFS. Most other posters here confirm the same. Not sure what it is about your looks or your little guy's look that's making the girls literally "run for cover". Now Travel on the other hand I have had uniformly bad experiences in CBJ and attitude in general. But Classic has always at least delivered the basics.Nothing wrong with my "little" guy, it's immaculate. This never happened to me before, I was starting to think it was an Indonesian thing. As soon as I objected to it they went uncovered, as I said in the reports. The first girl did it to get a larger tip. I must have been unlucky.
HappyFarang
09-12-25, 10:37
Yes many in malls.
Since many people know classic.
Suggest you go to nearby mall that you can walk on same side or gojek.
Metro Pasar Baru mall 2nd floor.
There are few out open with chairs.
If you want to go inside room there is on right left side of elevator.
Tomoro cofee j. Co are on first floor.
You can see these in Google maps.Thanks, that sounds good. 🙂.
Only the pizza was as good as it was 20 years ago. As it didn't look like many more women would arrive, we left at 11 pm when the place had 10 girls and 4 times as many men. Age of the girls ranging from 28 to 50, none for whom I'd be willing to spend what they have been reported to ask for (3 million?).
Only the pizza was as good as it was 20 years ago. As it didn't look like many more women would arrive, we left at 11 pm when the place had 10 girls and 4 times as many men. Age of the girls ranging from 28 to 50, none for whom I'd be willing to spend what they have been reported to ask for (3 million?).3 Juta for loose bottoms and 350K for tight bottoms. What a wonderful land Jakarta. Still love BATS for couple of drinks and music after a tight fuck from Classic.
Based on few reports from other fellow hobbyists, Lokasari area seemingly have high volume and better success rate.Not really high volume and moreover, pimp dominated girls. The pimps / mamies demanding prepayment, which is a no no for me. To keep everyone happy, I may handover the "agent" 50 k and insist to pay the girl in my room after the deed. We talk of 200 k to 400 k, depending on their looks and attitude.
Better to go elsewhere and enjoy music in the company of chicks. You never know after 2-3 drinks you might want to get into their pants again. BATS Cjs are a big no no for me now.
3 Juta for loose bottoms and 350K for tight bottoms. What a wonderful land Jakarta. Still love BATS for couple of drinks and music after a tight fuck from Classic.
I set off on a new adventure. My last trip to Asia was pre-COVID. While I know much has changed in those years, I still needed something different than the usual Thailand / Vietnam / Philippines trips I previously experienced. I figured I'd go to Indonesia for the first time, and if I didn't like it then I'd take a quick flight elsewhere via AirAsia. Luckily for me, that was NOT the case; I fell in love with Jakarta!
Departure flight: I booked a one way ticket to Jakarta using AA miles, 37.5 k miles plus $80 (taxes) via Cathay Pacific. Hong Kong 12 hour overnight layover. I originally planned on spending my layover exploring the nightlife. However, as it was my first trip to Indonesia and I had a carryon bag full of cash, I didn't want to risk anything before I even reached my actual vacation! From the looks of it, many people thought the same thing because there were many people sprawled out sleeping on the airport floor waiting for their flights.
Evisa: https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/. $30/30 days). FIRST ERROR: When completing your internet visa application Triple check the information you enter. I didn't notice at the time, but when you enter dates and don't put the slashes between the month / day / year, rather than giving you an error message, the date reverts to the current date. So, according to the visa, I was 3 days old vs 40+ years old. When I arrived in Jakarta, I could not enter via the eVisa lane because my visa was flagged. When I went to Passport control, the officer pointed out the error in my application, and that the only solution was to get a new Visa on Arrival using correct information and paying the VOA fee. I and about 6 other people made the same error and had to do the Walk of Shame from Passport Control to the VOA area to buy new visas and then return to Passport Control.
Airport Ride service (Gojek): https://www.gojek.com/blog/gojek/gocar-from-airport. After retrieving my luggage, I walked toward the door. I saw a beautiful Indo girl working for Gojek. She was giving away free water and also assisting people to schedule rides, giving directions to Gojek car staging areas, etc. Got her Instagram after she finished helping me set everything up. (I will definitely never forget her!) I used the free airport Wi-Fi to set everything up. The nice thing here is, that if you want to do money exchange or SIM card setup before getting your car, that is ok. You schedule your ride (there is no time schedule, just that you want a Gojek ride), complete your errands, then walk to the appropriate area (VIP or Regular. VIP is directly outside of the airport door, Regular is a two minute walk from the VIP section). A Gojek representative will ask you for your code (sent to you after requesting a ride via the app), log your ride, and signal a driver to pick you up. I did this instead figuring I'd get my SIM and exchange money in the city where the rates would be better. Why pay the convenience fees at the airport, right? One note: Although I used my credit card for Gojek fares, the airport to hotel fare does not include the toll road fee 8000 IDR (50 cents). I gave the driver $1 USD and he put it in an envelope he had full of USD. I guess I'm not the first person to pay in USD. Fare airport to hotel in Central Jakarta 14,000 IDR ($8. 50 USD) 25 minutes door to door in no traffic.
SIM Card. Past baggage claim, the SIM card stands usually charged 220,000 IDR ($14 USD) for 15 GB /30 days. Knowing it would be cheaper outside of the airport, I passed on this option. Later I went to Lokasari Mall Second floor where there were several different cell phone stalls. The rate I was being quoted was 100,000 IDR for 3 GB or 200,000 for 25 GB on Telkomsel. My cell phone was unlocked and installation was easy. It worked perfectly for 2 days. However, I had not registered my IMEI at Customs Office in the airport. Yes, I knew that I should have done so. For all the countries I have visited, I never registered my IMEI and wasn't planning on doing so. After a couple of days, suddenly my SIM card stopped working. I went to an official Telkomsel store in Cental Park Mall. The employee checked my card with her phone and it worked properly. She put her SIM card in my cell phone and it didn't work. I then confessed to the employee that I did not register my IMEI at the airport. The representative said that if I buy a SIM card here at the Telkomsel store, she can register my IMEI. SIM card with 3 GB is 50,000 IDR ($3). I wanted more data and got 6 GB additional for 35,000 IDR ($2. 25). I held onto the other SIM card in case I ran out of data (I was never close to using up the total data purchase during my 3-week trip). I gave the unused SIM card to a hotel employee who also took care of my room during the trip. Later he told me he sold it to a foreign guest who had just arrived to the hotel. Good for him, happy it worked out well!
Hotel: I stayed at Redstar Hotel after reading trip reports online. I booked through Agoda 220,000 IDR / night ($13.50). It was cheaper than the rate booked through the hotel. When I extended my trip, the hotel clerk suggested that I book on Agoda where the price is cheaper 300,000 IDR ($18.50). Room was clean but dated. Breakfast was edible but nothing great. Housecleaning daily with fresh towels and (2) two free bottles of water daily. The rooftop bar was awesome to watch sunset. A lot of the Chinese patrons brought their own bottle of liquor up to the roof and just got ice from the bar.
Transportation. Grab and Gojek are easy to use, just depends on your preference. Most of my rides were $1 USD and I had them charged directly to my credit card. Later, I learned to use the local train 3000 IDR ($0. 20) which were very clean and pretty modern. I booked my long distance train tickets on etiket.com (English interface, easy to use, price was the same as if I had purchased it through KAI). I did try using KAI, and after registering through the official website but when it came time to book, I was denied; the website allowed registration of passport as ID but when booking, it required a KTP (Indonesian Identity Card). I paid 517,000 IDR ($32) each way for executive class on modern trains.
Currency Exchange. I brought dollars with me. The first place I used was Dolarindo near Classic Hotel. They're practically next door to each other. It is no joke how strict they are checking the dollar bills. One had a crease in the middle and it was rejected. Another, the clerk was pulling at the blue strip saying that it was coming loose. I responded "well stop pulling it!" LOL. 16,100 IDR /1 USD. Afterward, I changed my money at exchanges in Chinatown and got 16,200 and the scrutiny was a lot less. Also, in Chinatown, the exchanges accepted the passport photo on my phone vs Dolarindo wanting to see your actual passport.
Bars: Most of my activity was in Travel and Classic (T2 & T5). A numbered wrist brace is how bar tabs are tracked. Travel mamasans were more relaxed, Classic mamasans were pretty aggressive. In these bars, mamasans manage certain girls (unlike Thailand / Philippines) and so the mamasans will push their girls. It was nice to walk around Travel and see the back area where the girls hang out, waiting to be summoned. Customers can sit and drink in this area, but it is the most cigarette-smoke filled section of the bar. Service 375,000 IDR ($23) for one girl / one hour, or 550,000 for two girls / one hour ($34). Most people seem to pick the two girl option. Almost all the girls spoke bar girl english. When needed, google translate helped! I drank beer in the bars; Anker draft beer pitchers in Travel and Bintang bottles (620 ML) bottles in Classic. I always ask for a bucket of ice because beer gets hot quick here! Another cool thing is that, for the most part, the girls drink from your beer when asked if they want a drink (separate glass with ice) Travel and Classic closed at 3 am.
Plenty of freelancers hanging nearby on sidewalks near classic (where I ended most nights). Due to my level of intoxication, I can't remember the price but there was nothing that did not seem reasonable. Almost all knew my hotel, knew it offered breakfast, etc. One guy I spoke a lot with had girls coming to his place for 4 hours at a time, but again, I can't remember what he told me he was paying; just that I thought it was reasonable.
The Voice karaoke bar was a cool time. I spent time here and sang my butt off too much applause! LOL. The hostess offered to go home with me multiple times and though pretty, I never pulled the plug because I knew I was going to Classic bar afterward.
Religious Sites: I love traveling and seeing sites of the world's religions. There are so many beautiful sites in and around Jakarta.
1. The Roman Catholic church (Our Lady of the Assumption Cathedral, commonly referred to as Jakarta Cathedral) was beautiful inside and out. My first visit there was during a wedding, so most of the church was closed off during the ceremony. I came back to next day for mass and to experience the church's beauty.
2. Istiqlal Mosque, across the street from the Cathedral (easy enough!) is the largest mosque in SEA. For non-Muslims, it is required to use the guided tour (free); you cannot enter the mosque otherwise (unless the guards think you're Muslim). The tour loans you a bag to carry your shoes as you cannot walk into the mosque while wearing them. The tour guide spoke excellent English and photos were highly encouraged. Don't plan to visit on Fridays as it is the sabbath for Muslims; many people will be in and out praying.
3. Dharma Bakti Temple in Chinatown is the largest Buddhist Temple in Jakarta. It was interesting to see the differences between Chinese Buddhist Temples and Thai Buddhist Temples.
That said; I took a 7-HR train ride to visit the largest religious sites in Indonesia, located near Yogyakarta.
4. Prambanan Temple is the world's third largest Hindu temple. The sunrise tour starts at 0630. Free water with entry ticket. Tickets can be purchased on site or via the website. https://prambanan.injourneydestination. . Tion-info /. Guides are available (tip for service), but otherwise you can walk the grounds and visit the temple as you wish.
5. Borobudur Temple is the world's largest Buddhist temple. It is 50 km (2 hours) distance from Prambanan Temple. Official tickets can be purchased on site or via https://borobudur.injourneydestination.id/en/. While you can stay on grounds for any length of time, one is only allowed to the temple via tour guide for one hour. Your wrist brace is scanned as you enter and exit the temple.
Tourist spots:
1. National Monument.
2. Kota Tua.
3. Museums.
4. Cafe Batavia.
Apps:
1. Grab and Gojek: worked flawlessly. Never waited more than 2 minutes for a ride.
2. etiket.com: great interface and easier to use.
3. Telkomsel: Using it was great when needed. As I approached 3 GB (I didn't know how much data I had used at the time) I was getting text messages saying that my data was almost used up. I was worried about running out of data and topping up my account because I was at Yogyakarta in a temple and had no idea how I was going to accomplish this. Using the temple Wi-Fi, I downloaded the app and learned that a promotion bonus package I received was almost used up; I still had plenty of data to use outside of the bonus package. No top up needed.
4. Traveljakarta: This is the only way to sign up in advance for the nighttime open roof bus tour. I ran out of time to do the tour; availability opened up the day I left. Next time!
5. Jakcard: used to pay for museum entry and trains / buses was completely useless. It never loaded properly. No wonder it only has a one star rating in the App store! Nice thing was that I was able to reload at Bank DKI which was near my hotel.
6. DAI: Easy to use but I could never buy a train ticket on it because it required a KTP number. When I registered my passport details online, the app upgraded me to a Platinum Member. Doesn't help when it won't let me book a train ticket.
Regrets:
1. I missed the 80th Independence Day celebrations the day of my arrival. The stages other areas broken down during the following days made me think it was quite a party! It was just a long travel day for me and I stayed in my first night. I will definitely check this out in the future.
2. Checking out more bars. It was my first trip and I stayed in Classic and Travel for most of the trip. I went to Blok M once and also visited The Voice karaoke bar several times. Now that I am familiar with the area, I want to explore more bars during my next trip.
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Exit: If you get a VOA (compared to an eVisa), you cannot use the electronic lanes. You must go through manual passport control. 37.5 k AA miles and $40 on Japan Airlines. Two hour layover in Tokyo with free airport Wi-Fi. Airline food was good and staff was really helpful and accommodating.
I set off on a new adventure. My last trip to Asia was pre-COVID. While I know much has changed in those years, I still needed something different than the usual Thailand / Vietnam / Philippines trips I previously experienced. I figured I'd go to Indonesia for the first time, and if I didn't like it then I'd take a quick flight elsewhere via AirAsia. Luckily for me, that was NOT the case; I fell in love with Jakarta!Great report, thanks.
Manfield04
09-14-25, 12:21
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Better to go elsewhere and enjoy music in the company of chicks. You never know after 2-3 drinks you might want to get into their pants again. BATS Cjs are a big no no for me now.Expected a bit more about BATS and CJs. Disappointed. What next? Eastern province, My bar or anything to add for the action after couple of drinks?
I stick to Gojek because I want to pay by credit card. I keep my small change for tips. Even if Bluebirds accept credit card I wouldn't want to risk compromising my credit card each time I use a Bluebird. However, I may eventually come round to generating more small change and using Bluebird from time to time as there's no other alternative.My UK forex fee free debit card as well as my UK credit cards work flawlessly on the Bluebird app. I never tap or pay with my card directly with the driver if that is what you mean.
Many available.
Are you in Jakarta or only just asking.
I can tell you few locations from tgram.
Address wa number.
Will you go there and write up report??
Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.
To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't ❤️ I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged women
Asian Rain
09-16-25, 09:54
Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.
To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't. I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged womenTo each his own. There are plenty of these ladies at the Classic price range at Travel or Kota Indah bars, which have been covered many times on this forum. From my observation at these venues, the volume of full-bodied MILF types quite outweighs my preferred skinny slim type. So have at it and report accordingly, as you don't seem to be the only one chasing this type. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
BroComplex
09-16-25, 19:32
I arrived in the afternoon and my first noobie mistake was after getting a SIM card I downloaded gojek app and linked my credit card, wasted like 15 minutes on that. Then I discovered that the toll fee is not included and can only be paid to the driver by cash so had to drag my bags back to the money changer inside the airport. The exchange rate for $100 was 1585000 in the airport and 1616000 in the city.
Lessons learned:
-at the baggage carousel there is a gojek worker give her your name and destination and she will reserve you a car.
-exchange money before you leave the airport.
-the fastest was to get a driver is to pay cash.
I'm staying at ibis styles in mangga dua. I booked there because I assumed mangga dua is mall like malls in Thailand but it turns out not to be a proper mall. All of Jakarta is slum and nothing like Bangkok. There is nothing to eat nearby except street food and small local diners. I still haven't figured out where is the nice part of town with proper restaurants and large malls.
I took a nap and went out at 9 pm, first stop was classic hotel. I booked a motorbike and paid cash. To my surprise the streets are mostly quiet. There is no traffic at all. It takes me 10 minutes and $1 to get to classic hotel or to kota indah.
Classic hotel T2:
As soon as I entered the mamasans were at the door waiting for customers. One of them grabbed me and took me to a table. A waitress took my order then the mama came back and asked me if I wanted a girl and I said yes. She got me what I thought was okay looking girl then the girl asked me if I wanted another girl I declined then she opened the calculator app on her phone and typed 375,000 and said "one lady" then typed 500,000 and said "two lady, two lady better" that kinda made sense so I agreed and she brought her friend which was younger and better looking than the first one. In the room they weren't shy and they knew all the bargirls talk, I was pretty sure they were both seasoned professionals yet they claim they only started working two weeks ago. Hilarious. The BJ was covered and I didn't protest. The session was like two short times don't expect a threesome. Before leaving I tipped each 50 k and they demanded 100 k. One of them stood in front of the door and said she won't let me leave until I give her another 50 k I told her I will complain to the mama then she moved. Ungrateful. Walked around the bar and noticed much better looking girls than the ones I picked. I also noticed that they are all with Asian guys. I might be mistaken but I think they give the young pretty girls to Asian guys and they give us the unattractive ones. Tomorrow I will insist on a better looking girl.
Kota indah:
I went to sari ayu and same as classic they seated me, got me a drink and then the mama came back and asked me if I wanted a lady and I asked to see the girls first she said ok and left then I got totally ignored. I believe she did not understand me and thought I didn't want a girl.
Went to royal and it was dead and I didn't stay.
Went to the place next to royal, it was sari something. The mamasans were setting outside calling customers. Same as before I got seated, got a drink and asked if I wanted a girl I only said yes this time. The mama called me a line up of mediocre girls but one of them was short and skinny so I picked her and told the mama "upstairs" she said 400,000 I said ok. Paid the bill and went upstairs with the girl. She was ok, BJ without condom, I tipped her 50,000 she said thank you unenthusiastically.
Lessons learned:
-keep your English as simple as possible.
-don't agree on the girls girl they suggest to you, better yet walk around with the mamasan and point at the one you want.
-they classify the customers as customers that want girls and customers that don't want girls. If your plan is to get a girl then get one as soon as you enter. Don't tell them you want to have a drink first or something or your will get ignored.
Noobie questions:
Is 50 k tip enough or did I stiff them?
At brocomplex if the service was unsatisfactory as you described then stick to no tip don't let them bully you. 100 k is for good service that you feel she made an effort. 50 k is rewarding zero effort. Everyone had their own idea of tipping. I've had a few bad ones from classic I take the time to explain why I didn't tip and why I tip other girls who with there. Never reward bad service.
Most of the time I do receive good service so I tip 100 k.
You done well as a newbie you are still finding your feet.
HolaaaaHiiii
09-16-25, 20:54
Many available.
Are you in Jakarta or only just asking.
I can tell you few locations from tgram.
Address wa number.
Will you go there and write up report?? @Chilli1 Sure man go ahead, please tell and I can go and report back!
What do you mean by "Address wa number."
Walked around the bar and noticed much better looking girls than the ones I picked. I also noticed that they are all with Asian guys. I might be mistaken but I think they give the young pretty girls to Asian guys and they give us the unattractive ones. I don't think that this is a thing in Jakarta. But there are two things that I noticed. First, many of the girls think that white guys have way bigger dicks than Asian guys and they are afraid of it. To a point that they refuse to go with white customers. But I don't think that the beautiful girls are more afraid than the regular girls.
Second, some Asian dudes show an impressive level of patience and determination. They get to classic when it opens, get a table and sit there for hours, waiting for the girls to arrive. If you put it in so much effort, you have a very good chance to find a beautiful girl. I can't. I tried it once I got so bored after one hour sitting there doing nothing.
Nothing wrong with my "little" guy, it's immaculate. This never happened to me before, I was starting to think it was an Indonesian thing. As soon as I objected to it they went uncovered, as I said in the reports. The first girl did it to get a larger tip. I must have been unlucky.I had my first encounter with such a women on my last session before leaving for the airport last week. Saw what I thought was an attractive girl of around 22-23 from the distance getting rejected by a couple of asians, and wondered why, but alas, there's no accounting for other peoples taste. Wanted to find another girl, as this girl was from a mamasan I had some days before told I didn't want girls from due to the dud she had given me a few days before that, and her not caring when I told her what a dud that girl was afterwards. Even had to re-session with another girl as did not finish with first girl, but it was early at Classic, and I had already taken two girls an hour before, so not much choice.
Anyway, she turned out looking closer to 25 on close-up, and told me she was actually even older than that and a single mother. Could have fooled me, but then she started talking about condom for BJ. I just rolled my eyes at her, and told her no condom for BJ, and actually no condom for sex either. Had she insisted on condom for BJ, I'd walked out and at least try to insist on a new girl from that mamasan (though she had already let me down).
She then suggested I pay 300 k ekstra in tip for no condom. Was not sure if she ment for the BBBJ or BBFS, but I said 100 k, sex no condom. She blah-blahed she usually charges 500, but 200 k, ok? No, 100 k, and in the end she agreed. My summary makes it sound like she was more crazy than she actually was, as the whole thing was pretty quick and painless, and I was just a bit annoyed she was trying it on with me, especially after we had talked about why I choose her, while others rejected her. Anyway, session was good, and I even tipped her an extra 50 k, on top of the 100 k I had said, in a moment of weakness for her kid.
Also managed to, to my surprise, piss of a girl at Classic. Didn't understand why at first. Noticed she seemed cold to me after the session had finished, both before and after I gave her the 100 k tip for "GFE", but was not sure if she had just turned off the "pretend to like me" switch after I had finished, or if there was something else. Maybe she thought my 100 k tip was too small?
Next day, when mama saw me she told me she has a girl for me that I will like, and started to go get this girl. I tried to stop her and tell her I already saw her yesterday, so don't need today, but mama was already on the way. Funny thing is, when the girl stood up from the bench and walked down and saw me, she frowned, and immediately turned around and went back to her seat. Mama looked at me confused, but I could only tell her I went with the girl yesterday, and don't know why she is angry at me.
Mama said ok, well, she don't want to go with you for whatever reason. Do you see any other girl? Unfortunately not, but I was curious, so asked mama to go ask the girl why she is angry at me. I have a somewhat decent relationship with this mama (even met outside Classic once), so was not overly worried about whatever the girl would tell mama. Mama came back and told me the girl was angry because I fucked her without condom before. No idea why she did not stop me or say anything the day before, as I'm in no rush to insert junior, but take my own sweet time rubbing him up and down, around and around, before slowly inserting. Mama also told me something I didn't really know: when I choose girl like that by myself, without mama's recommendation, things like that can happen, and mama does know a bit about which girls do what, with and without.
I had in the meantime ordered my first ever drink at Classic (non-alcohol), and by the time I was finishing, some more girls had appeared and mama brought over another girl. She was somewhat right in saying she knew this girl was not exactly my type, but told me good body, 19, and good service. Service and body was indeed pretty good, but I was a bit annoyed in having to pay her200 k ekstra for the GFE, rather than my usual 100 k. I thought it wasn't worth ruining the enjoyment on principle for an extra 100k, but ...
Apart from that: Classic is as good as ever IMO, with the caveat that "ever" for me is only the past two years, unlike for the veterans here. While on previous trips I've gone to bed with mostly 7's, and only the occasional 8, this time I found several 8's. I got the impression there are more fools ruining the girls expectations regarding tips for BBFS though. I can only remember hearing 500 k once before in all my sessions, but feel I heard it many times during this trip, though they all, except for the one 200 k girl, came down to the usual 100 k.
Michat I also have started to get the hang on, so I usually had a session with one or two girls at Classic early on, and a michat girl at night, though sometimes I failed to find anyone, and sometimes I had a michat girl over early morning, then classic, and then another michat girl at night. One of the michat girls it even turned out was walking at Classic (she asked me if I knew about a place called "Classic". Well, yeah). That girl, and one other girl, were pretty much the only michat girls who provided anything more than very minimal service. IMO, while michat girls can seemingly be as young as you want, service and looks is inferior to Classic. Most were 6's, and the michat girl working at Classic is somebody I'd never choose at Classic. I'd rate her as 5 once she turned up, though she was friendly, nice, gave good service, and was the only michat girl who managed to pretend she liked me slightly. Had she been prettier I'd probably repeat with her, but as it was, there was only two michat girls I wanted to repeat with.
Also had a two-three "threesomes" via michat. Funnily enough, one of the threesome photos were of a couple I had threesomed with half a year ago, and I remembered one of the girls as she was quite cute. Her bigger friend, less so, but doable. I thought that'd be a pretty sure bet on who will turn up in the lobby, but funnily enough, two completely different girls turned up in the lobby. They both looked good enough however, so I did not complain.
Turned out to have some drama though. I had confirmed with the admin, as it was obvious I was not talking with the girls themselves, 800 k, two finishes. But after the first finish, they were getting dressed. This didn't piss me off or anything, but I showed them the messages between me and admin (and also, to their amusement, the photos supposed to show them), and then had to spend the next half hour listening to the girls and two admin-types (one female, one male) having a shouting match over their phone. I initially distanced myself from it, but then offered to pay 400 k for one finish a couple of times, but the girls did not want that, so instead shouted at their admins, and their admins shouting back at them. I didn't understand much of it, but think the gist was the admin woman saying since it was a threesome, there should be two finishes, not just two girls getting fucked for one finish.
Maybe at some other time it would have pissed me of and I'd eject them, but at the time I was for one reason or other somewhat amused about the situation, maybe due to how the girls were reacting, and ended up banging them both again for the second finish. The smallest and cutest girl was also a bit feisty, and able to tell me "fuck you!" while smirking a couple of times, which made me answer "no, fuck you", and fuck her harder.
I guess sometimes you don't get more fun than the fun you create yourself, but it was a funny situation for me nonetheless. Told her "fuck you" as she was leaving out the door also, which made us both chuckle. Probably I'd want to repeat with her alone if I'd stayed longer, as I didn't meet many michat girls who could make me laugh.
Anyway, if you don't mind going out at night to a brothel, Classic and similar are a much better and faster choice than michat IMO. With michat, it's a learning experience to figure out how to get some value out of it, but even then, looks and service is mostly inferior to Classic, and most of them seemingly don't even know how to take a proper shower, though I'm sure there are some gems there too. I do enjoy using up the three extra towels I ask for each day in my own room though.
Hung Man 1808
09-17-25, 00:36
I'm staying at ibis styles in mangga dua. I booked there because I assumed mangga dua is mall like malls in Thailand but it turns out not to be a proper mall. All of Jakarta is slum and nothing like Bangkok. There is nothing to eat nearby except street food and small local diners. I still haven't figured out where is the nice part of town with proper restaurants and large malls.
You're about 10 to 20 km north of all that. Head West from where you are to Kota station (over near the KI places you've just been to), then down Hayam Waruk and keep going. First stop is the Grand Indonesia / Plaza Indonesia area next to the big roundabout, then further south to Senayan for Senayan City and Plaza Senayan etc.
What you won't find down there is places like those you have been visiting full of girls. If you want both in your trip, you're going to be travelling lots regardless.
Banana Boi
09-17-25, 04:13
I'm staying at ibis styles in mangga dua. I booked there because I assumed mangga dua is mall like malls in Thailand but it turns out not to be a proper mall. All of Jakarta is slum and nothing like Bangkok. There is nothing to eat nearby except street food and small local diners. I still haven't figured out where is the nice part of town with proper restaurants and large malls.Lots of big nice malls in Jakarta. They're just not really near where you are. Google largest malls in Jakarta or biggest malls in Jakarta. The good ones take around 30 minutes by taxi but at least taxis are cheap there. Jakarta is a large city with bad traffic. Not "all of Jakarta is slum". You are staying in a "slum" area. The popular sex shops most guys go to are in "slum" areas.
Never let a mamasan choose a girl for you. I think you learned that lesson on day 1 already. At the KI bars, it's best to be ignored and just let a mamasan know once you've found the best girl buried 10 deep in a corner. Drinks are not mandatory at these bars unless you're thirsty.
... Walked around the bar and noticed much better looking girls than the ones I picked. I also noticed that they are all with Asian guys. I might be mistaken but I think they give the young pretty girls to Asian guys and they give us the unattractive ones. ..
...I've often had that impression alas. It is frustrating when no sooner you enter than mamasan tries to match you with yesterday's lame girl with whom you definitely don't want to repeat, while at the same time 10 girls stand up from the sofas in unisson to come and surround a single Asian guy at the next table.
Some stunners are not even visible on the sofas. They get summoned from a backroom whenever Asians come in.
I've had success in landing attractive girls after I stood my ground and insisted on looking around for myself. If you point to a girl and she comes to you of her own accord, the mamasan will eventually join you and you will be able to session the girl.
I've been a daily customer at Classic over the past two weeks so I don't get ignored any more, especially since I arrive very early when demand is low. But I've seen some Westerners, obviously newbies, not daring fetch a girl on their own, stand alone completely ignored, then leave after a while without sessionning.
In the not too distant future the pro-Asian bias may simply become too much, unless you don't mind swallowing your pride and take third-choice girls to the room under the smirk of Asian guys surrounded by a harem of beauties.
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Is 50 k tip enough or did I stiff them?A bit stingy. Unless service is really bad and I don't tip, I tip at least 100k. If I get special full service that implies taking 200mg doxy after the deed, I tip 300k.
-they classify the customers as customers that want girls and customers that don't want girls. If your plan is to get a girl then get one as soon as you enter. Don't tell them you want to have a drink first or something or your will get ignored.Respectfully disagree. The worst thing is to choose a girl as soon as you enter because then you're going to put pressure on yourself and choose with poor judgement. The golden rule is: never allow yourself to be rushed. From your post, it shows that after a few visits, you'll learn how to handle mami's properly. Right now, you are letting them lead you. It's got to be the other way around. You decide who you choose and when you choose.
This is my routine:
- I enter Classic, and as soon as mami's come up to be, I firmly say 'No, thank you', and with my palms held out, by body language says "Leave me alone".
- I walk around the sofas, looking at the girls.
- I make a mental list of the one or two that I fancy (I like curvy girls and less than 5% of the girls in Classic T2 fit my requirements).
- I sit on a round table and wait a little. I watch the one or two girls that I like, in case they stand up (to be shown to other punters) - seeing a girl standing shows me her height and hip width.
- I then walk past the girls that I like and I try and make eye contact and I smile. If they smile back, that's a good sign. If they show indifference, then fuck that.
- I then call any random mami over and ask "How's the mami for this girl?" Or even just beckon the girl to come to talk to me. Pretty soon her mami will appear.
- I tell mami, that I want to speak with the girl. I have a quick chat (using translate), watch her body language, energy, enthusiasm.
- If it's all good, then I get mami to sign the voucher and head of the room.
- I tip 100 K for fair / good service, zero if the girl refuses some basic services like blowjob. And I tell them that I would have given 100 k if they had given fair service. The girl need to learn that poor service will NOT entitle them to a tip.
The point is: I never let the mami's choose a girl for me. As soon as a newbie walks in, the mami's will grab them and point to a table and get them to sit down. I don't allow that. Because that's an 'act of compliance'. If you do that, then Mami is leading and you are following. The Mami is just an admin clerk who's job is to fill in the voucher. That's it. Don't believe bullshit they give you like "New girl", "good service". They'll tell you whatever they think will get you to commit.
Oh. Never tip a mami. We don't want to normalize stuff like that.
Oh. Oh. Don't think that you have to buy a drink. You don't.
Ignored? Ignored by who? The mami's? That' the best thing. Because then you don't get hassled by these annoying 'beaches'.
Good luck and happy punting.
Some stunners are not even visible on the sofas. They get summoned from a backroom whenever Asians come in.
I've heard that rumour a few times here, but I'm not sure it's true.
My preferred mamasan (and only she) has several times summoned girls from the backroom from me who she thought I would like. By now, she's correct most of the time (including the girl who I pissed off, LOL), but never got the impression it was because they were hiding back there in preparation for some asian whale. Like you, I also come early (maybe we have seen each other earlier this month, but who knows), so it's mostly been the case of "wait a little, she getting ready now", or "hmm, no, she starts work at 4 pm. Too long to wait for you?"
I imagine there could be a similar "summon from the backroom" if I arrived in the evening too, except the "getting ready part" will be "flushing her pussy after last customer" rather than "doing her make-up".
Thus, I suspect it's more a case of "regular customer" favouritism than anything else, and the mama bothering to go to the backroom for you to hurry up some girl there she hopes you will take.
Then I discovered that the toll fee is not included and can only be paid to the driver by cash so had to drag my bags back to the money changer inside the airportIn the room they weren't shy and they knew all the bargirls talk, I was pretty sure they were both seasoned professionals yet they claim they only started working two weeks ago. Hilarious. The BJ was covered and I didn't protest. The session was like two short times don't expect a threesome. Before leaving I tipped each 50 k and they demanded 100 k. One of them stood in front of the door and said she won't let me leave until I give her another 50 k I told her I will complain to the mama then she moved. Ungrateful.
Noobie questions:
Is 50 k tip enough or did I stiff them?
Great first report. That toll fee in cash must be some limitation of Gojek. I use grab myself and never had that problem. I think gojek might be slightly cheaper and/or faster in Indonesia, but since I have grab already, I've never bothered setting up gojek.
IMO, you did not stiff them, they stiffed you. I'd tip exactly 0 for that, and since I don't like covered BJ, I'd cancel the session if she insisted on that (and I'd definitely not pay anything extra for that). I'm not yet sure if I'd get a free replacement from a random mamasan in that case however, as I never had a girl insist on it, and only one girl ever even mention it in what must be close to 50 different girls at Classic by now. Anyone tried to see what happens?
For the "two girls" option, I'm always fucking both girls during both sessions. True, it's far from a real threesome, as it's difficult to get the girls to interact (I've not even gotten them kissing each other, though some bastard here, to who I recommended a girl, on his very first session, did have her making out with the other girl, so some people are obviously better at this than others. I picked up some tips from his report though. ;-)), but at least my dick is alternating pussies, and to a more limited extent, mouths, though it's difficult to get rid of the tissue wiping in between mouths completely. Mostly, yes, but not as seamless as we all want it.
The girls may try to tell you the procedure is you fuck one girl, finish, then the other girl, finish, but you need to override that and make it clear you're fucking both at the same time. Myself I perhaps overtip slightly for this when service is good, giving each girl double of what I normally tip for good service. I also don't at all mind giving one girl four times of what I gave the other girl either, if one girl's service was great, while the other girl's service was ok, but not so good that I would normally tip 100k, though she did enough to deserve a tip in a threesome (so 200k to one and 50k to the other one).
Expat American
09-17-25, 09:12
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I'm staying at ibis styles in mangga dua. I booked there because I assumed mangga dua is mall like malls in Thailand but it turns out not to be a proper mall. All of Jakarta is slum and nothing like Bangkok. There is nothing to eat nearby except street food and small local diners. I still haven't figured out where is the nice part of town with proper restaurants and large malls.So your first day in a new city, staying within 3 km of the grungy red light area and you have decided all of Jakarta is a slum? If you want modern malls go to Grand Indonesia to start. Or go further south to SCBD and you will find a modern city with wide streets and fancy buildings. There are great rooftop bars, high end dining. Unfortunately for you, you can't point to any girl and fuck her for 400 K, for that you are in the right zone where you are. But don't judge the entire city based on that limited radius.
I've often had that impression alas. It is frustrating when no sooner you enter than mamasan tries to match you with yesterday's lame girl with whom you definitely don't want to repeat, while at the same time 10 girls stand up from the sofas in unisson to come and surround a single Asian guy at the next table.
Some stunners are not even visible on the sofas. They get summoned from a backroom whenever Asians come in.I might be wrong but I think you would also get the full line-up in front of you if you asked for it to the Mama.
You're about 10 to 20 km north of all that. Head West from where you are to Kota station (over near the KI places you've just been to), then down Hayam Waruk and keep going. First stop is the Grand Indonesia / Plaza Indonesia area next to the big roundabout, then further south to Senayan for Senayan City and Plaza Senayan etc.
What you won't find down there is places like those you have been visiting full of girls. If you want both in your trip, you're going to be travelling lots regardless.Would you recommend a good hotel to stay in the middle between the slums and the nice areas?
Let's say equivalent in price and quality to an HolidayInn?
1. The fastest was to get a driver is to pay cash.
2. I'm staying at ibis styles in mangga dua. I booked there because I assumed mangga dua is mall like malls in Thailand but it turns out not to be a proper mall. All of Jakarta is slum and nothing like Bangkok. There is nothing to eat nearby except street food and small local diners. I still haven't figured out where is the nice part of town with proper restaurants and large malls.
1. I set up my Gojek account with credit card. I got every ride within two minutes and never had to fumble with cash for rides. It was super convenient.
2. Central Park Mall in Jakarta is huge and very comparable to the malls of Bangkok.
I just had a vivid demonstration of what I was complaining about in my previous post. There were 6 girls on the sofa directly to the right after entry. Two of those were tallish girls. Only those two interested me. Mamasan kept pointing at the short ones. I eventually strong-armed mamasan into pointing at tallish girl number 1. Tallish girl number 1 said no, rejecting me outright from her sitting position. I wanted mamasan to point at tallish girl number 2. "She is waiting for a customer" replied mamasan. I was skeptical. It was barely past 2 pm and it had only just stopped raining hard. I was the sole male client.
I didn't stay with blue balls. I went to the other side and ended up doing two quick sessions lasting no more than 40 minutes each. When I emerged from my 2nd session, I spotted the two above-mentioned tallish girls on the sofa where I had last seen them. No customer had come for any of them. At this point an Asian guy came up. The 6 girls on the sofa + the girls on the long sofa to the right stood up in a "contest". The Asian guy had ALL the around 15 girls from that section of the hall to choose from (including the above-mentioned tallish girls). He ended up finding none to his liking though, and the girls resumed their sitting.
That Asian guy was a short chunky guy (around 1 m60), very ordinarily dressed (dark blue sweater). He carried a small cheap-looking rucksack. The only thing he could be said to have over me is he was younger.
Of course such discrimination is something we are all too familiar with in Thailand. I wish working girls in Europe and South America would give Asian mongers a taste of their own medecine. They don't though. Girls in Africa do so here and there, alas with decreasing frequency since European countries started losing influence in Africa.
I've loaded the Bluebird app with my credit card as method of payment, after being left high and dry (again) by Gojek. I'm now convinced Gojek drivers play games. They at once text me asking to cancel, they don't move or they move away from me so I end up having to cancel. If this had been happening only every so often I wouldn't mind, but it has been happening most of the time. Today I tried to get hold of 4 Gojek taxis at Plaza Indonesia before giving up and hailing a passing Bluebird.
Offshore Swell
09-17-25, 13:58
I also noticed that they are all with Asian guys. I might be mistaken but I think they give the young pretty girls to Asian guys and they give us the unattractive ones. Tomorrow I will insist on a better looking girl.Gee Asians, fancy that! What on earth would they be doing in Indonesia?
I'm now convinced Gojek drivers play games. They at once text me asking to cancel, they don't move or they move away from me so I end up having to cancel. If this had been happening only every so often I wouldn't mind, but it has been happening most of the time..If you cancel the confirmed trip. You have to pay a fee--correct?
If the driver is cancelling, then it is on his shown records. And that's what the drivers don't want.
I just had a vivid demonstration of what I was complaining about in my previous post. There were 6 girls on the sofa directly to the right after entry. Two of those were tallish girls. Only those two interested me. Mamasan kept pointing at the short ones. I eventually strong-armed mamasan into pointing at tallish girl number 1. Tallish girl number 1 said no, rejecting me outright from her sitting position. I wanted mamasan to point at tallish girl number 2. "She is waiting for a customer" replied mamasan. I was skeptical. It was barely past 2 pm and it had only just stopped raining hard. I was the sole male client.
I didn't stay with blue balls. I went to the other side and ended up doing two quick sessions lasting no more than 40 minutes each. When I emerged from my 2nd session, I spotted the two above-mentioned tallish girls on the sofa where I had last seen them. No customer had come for any of them. At this point an Asian guy came up. The 6 girls on the sofa + the girls on the long sofa to the right stood up in a "contest". The Asian guy had ALL the around 15 girls from that section of the hall to choose from (including the above-mentioned tallish girls). He ended up finding none to his liking though, and the girls resumed their sitting.
That Asian guy was a short chunky guy (around 1 m60), very ordinarily dressed (dark blue sweater). He carried a small cheap-looking rucksack. The only thing he could be said to have over me is he was younger.
If that's the younger mamasan with slightly longer hair, perhaps in a ponytail, I remember her. She was reasonably friendly to me, and I went with at least one of her girls (a very bubbly 8 IMO, though don't think I'd rate her as tallish, so probably not one of those two).
To me that sounds more like those two girls not wanting to go with your kind (big? Non-asian?) and the mamasan already knowing that from before, so not wanting to offer them to you, rather than mamasan reserving the prettier girls for asians.
The girls have their preference too I'm sure, just like we, and the prettier ones perhaps feel they get enough work from their prefered clientele anyway, so don't need to accept everything the cat dragged in. Enough asian dudes will choose her before the day is over anyway.
Myself, I'm ok about that (like I have choice), and don't take it to heart. If a girl has such a strong dislike to me before I've even said hi, having a good session with her will surely be an uphill battle, so why bother, even if mamasan could somehow push the girl to go with me.
Happened to me too once at Classic, in the place on the ground floor. After scouting the area, there was only one girl there I wanted to bang. Asked mama to get the girl, but after talking with the girl, mama returned alone and said the girl did not want to go with me. Ostensibly because scared of bule and big dick, but could be she just didn't like how I looked. I guess telling me the girl was "waiting for her customer" would have been a more polite way of telling me to fuck off.
Starmoon Bar in West Jakarta Permanently Closed Due to UA Prostitution: The Starmoon Bar in Tamansari, West Jakarta was sealed by the Tourism and Creative Economy Office (Disparekraf) of DKI Jakarta 3 weeks ago.
Still closed?
BroComplex
09-17-25, 18:35
I woke up in the morning and had to get coffee. Not any coffee, a good coffee. I searched "Roastery" on google map (which is totally unreliable but don't get me started on that) and ended up in a coffee shop called supremo in Mövenpick hotel. I ordered an iced americano and cheese and tomato sandwich and both were excellent. I highly recommend the place, although it's kinda expensive.
Went to the museum and it was meh. It's mostly empty.
Went to grand Indonesia mall. It's a good large mall with good restaurants and coffee shops. I noticed everything here is cheaper than in Thailand. I bought a tee shirt from Uniqlo for $12.15 the same shirt cost $15.45 in Bangkok.
Went to classic t2 at 7 pm. As soon as I entered a mamasans took me to a seat and asked if I wanted a lady I said yes and she brought me two of the fattest girls in the place. I laughed and said no then one of the girls asked if I wanted a slim girl, I said yes then she explained to the mama that I wanted a slim girl. The mama said wait and came back with a good looking girl. She's not top tier but she's better than the average. In the room she gave me uncovered BJ without asking. I banged her and came in like 2 minutes. Maybe it's better to take to girls for the first session. I tipped her 100 k.
Went to indomart next to the hotel to drink water and rest before the next session. It's cheaper than drinking in the bar.
Went to t5 at 8:30 pm. The place is mostly empty. There are only 4 sofas for the girls. One before the stage and one after. A mama asked me if I wanted a girl I said yes then she took me to her sofa which had like 10 girls. I picked the cutest one in the lineup. Up close she was even better looking. I asked her what's your name she smiled like she's saying I have no idea what you are talking about. I asked the mama if she speaks any English she said no she's new. Not speaking any English is a pretty good sign that the girl is actually new. In the room she gave my uncover BJ and while I was banging her she was making faces like she's in pain. I used the translation app to ask if she's ok she said yes so I continued. When we fished she wiped her self and some blood stained the tissue. I think her period just started. I tipped her 100 k.
Went to a restaurant for dinner and after eating I started to feel tummy ache. I guess the inevitable diarrhea has started. I went to a pharmacy and bought imodium for 100 k. I guess medicine cost more here than in Thailand.
Went to travel hotel at 10:30 pm. A mama took me to the back room where the girls are and brought me a line up of 8 girls. I picked an ok looking girl, not as good looking as the girls at classic. The girl immediately asked me if I wanted to take her very unattractive friend and I agreed. I assumed since they were friend that they will do stuff together in the room but unfortunately they didn't. After banging the first for about 15 minutes I told them I couldn't finish. The ugly girl said she will make me finish and worked very hard on me until I miraculously finished. I tipped the first girl 100 k and the ugly girl 200 k for the effort.
What's with the listerine wipes. Everytime I leave I smell like a tooth paste.
BenderOver
09-18-25, 00:17
So your first day in a new city, staying within 3 km of the grungy red light area and you have decided all of Jakarta is a slum? If you want modern malls go to Grand Indonesia to start. Or go further south to SCBD and you will find a modern city with wide streets and fancy buildings. There are great rooftop bars, high end dining. Unfortunately for you, you can't point to any girl and fuck her for 400 K, for that you are in the right zone where you are. But don't judge the entire city based on that limited radius.So true. If you're looking for easy good eats, most malls have a huge selection of excellent daily food. If you have the time and money to explore to, there are at least two super popular districts where the fancy restaurants have opened up. Those districts aren't easy to name, but one is in South Jakarta a bit to the west, the other is somewhere in between thamrin and Pacific place.
Very swanky parts of Jakarta that combine alluring with modern.
BenderOver
09-18-25, 00:27
I arrived in the afternoon and my first noobie mistake was after getting a SIM card I downloaded gojek app and linked my credit card, wasted like 15 minutes on that. Then I discovered that the toll fee is not included and can only be paid to the driver by cash so had to drag my bags back to the money changer inside the airport. The exchange rate for $100 was 1585000 in the airport and 1616000 in the city.
Lessons learned:
-at the baggage carousel there is a gojek worker give her your name and destination and she will reserve you a car.
-exchange money before you leave the airport.
-the fastest was to get a driver is to pay cash.
I'm staying at ibis styles in mangga dua. I booked there because I assumed mangga dua is mall like malls in Thailand but it turns out not to be a proper mall. All of Jakarta is slum and nothing like Bangkok. There is nothing to eat nearby except street food and small local diners. I still haven't figured out where is the nice part of town with proper restaurants and large malls.
I took a nap and went out at 9 pm, first stop was classic hotel. I booked a motorbike and paid cash. To my surprise the streets are mostly quiet. There is no traffic at all. It takes me 10 minutes and $1 to get to classic hotel or to kota indah.
Classic hotel T2:
As soon as I entered the mamasans were at the door waiting for customers. One of them grabbed me and took me to a table. A waitress took my order then the mama came back and asked me if I wanted a girl and I said yes. She got me what I thought was okay looking girl then the girl asked me if I wanted another girl I declined then she opened the calculator app on her phone and typed 375,000 and said "one lady" then typed 500,000 and said "two lady, two lady better" that kinda made sense so I agreed and she brought her friend which was younger and better looking than the first one. In the room they weren't shy and they knew all the bargirls talk, I was pretty sure they were both seasoned professionals yet they claim they only started working two weeks ago. Hilarious. The BJ was covered and I didn't protest. The session was like two short times don't expect a threesome. Before leaving I tipped each 50 k and they demanded 100 k. One of them stood in front of the door and said she won't let me leave until I give her another 50 k I told her I will complain to the mama then she moved. Ungrateful. Walked around the bar and noticed much better looking girls than the ones I picked. I also noticed that they are all with Asian guys. I might be mistaken but I think they give the young pretty girls to Asian guys and they give us the unattractive ones. Tomorrow I will insist on a better looking girl.
Kota indah:
I went to sari ayu and same as classic they seated me, got me a drink and then the mama came back and asked me if I wanted a lady and I asked to see the girls first she said ok and left then I got totally ignored. I believe she did not understand me and thought I didn't want a girl.
Went to royal and it was dead and I didn't stay.
Went to the place next to royal, it was sari something. The mamasans were setting outside calling customers. Same as before I got seated, got a drink and asked if I wanted a girl I only said yes this time. The mama called me a line up of mediocre girls but one of them was short and skinny so I picked her and told the mama "upstairs" she said 400,000 I said ok. Paid the bill and went upstairs with the girl. She was ok, BJ without condom, I tipped her 50,000 she said thank you unenthusiastically.
Lessons learned:
-keep your English as simple as possible.
-don't agree on the girls girl they suggest to you, better yet walk around with the mamasan and point at the one you want.
-they classify the customers as customers that want girls and customers that don't want girls. If your plan is to get a girl then get one as soon as you enter. Don't tell them you want to have a drink first or something or your will get ignored.
Noobie questions:
Is 50 k tip enough or did I stiff them?A covered BJ usually results with me getting dressed and taking the loss of HF. Half the time the girl asks if I would stay and they would proceed with BBBJ. The issue is that some don't want clients going back down and complaining to the mms. They won't recommend those girls because it screws up their business and potential for mms tips.
BBBJ with decent fa is 100 k. If you're going to disagree with me for the 50 k, I'm not hearing it because it's $3. 50 and you can go talk to yourself.
BBBJ with BBFS is 300 k. I've given more when I feel the connection, their need, how hot they are, how honest they're being with me, whatever.
In the end, it's like $50 for a total bare sesh with a young skinny stunner. If it isn't, move on fast, don't waste the discharge on a bad target.
I've heard that rumour a few times here, but I'm not sure it's true.
My preferred mamasan (and only she) has several times summoned girls from the backroom from me who she thought I would like. The mamasan knows her roster. After you pick a girl and sign the chit, she disappears into the locker room to get her things. After finishing a session the girls go back to the locker room to put her things away and maybe chill for a bit. If the mamasan knows that she has a girl that's just finished a session and is chilling, if the girl fits the guy's criteria the mamasan's going to go get the girl to try and make the sale. It's not a hiding girls for Asians thing, it's a clear description of what the guy's looking for and the mamasan knowing where she's at.
Price 300 to 400 but 90 minutes?
Found them on kaskus with manager writing about girls.
Most are 30 to 40 age.
Very basic rooms.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Au5e4F7aED3r3Pee7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/76TgP7WdDNSvakyg8
@Chilli1 Sure man go ahead, please tell and I can go and report back!
What do you mean by "Address wa number."
Price 300 to 400 but 90 minutes?
Found them on kaskus with manager writing about girls.
Most are 30 to 40 age.
Very basic rooms.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Au5e4F7aED3r3Pee7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/76TgP7WdDNSvakyg8This is one of the things, maybe only thing, michat works reasonably well for. Usually there are some "massage" advertisements there. 300 k for 90 minutes is the standard price, and since it's in your own room, it's a better deal unless you happen to be passing by a massage place anyway. I've booked a few, and without fail, it's someone different from the photo who turns up. Lookwise something between 4-6 usually, and age around 30. Only had massage, though I did try (and fail) to bang one who was on the prettier side.
One of the women I talked to said she had no idea who I expected, and was just told by some admin to go to my hotel for a booking. Quality of massage was decent enough. About the same as the hotel massage.
If I remember right, they were all wearing facial masks while waiting in the lobby for me.
Does anyone know of a strip club in Jakarta? I was at a fantastic club about 15 years ago. Last year I tried to find something similar and the closest I came was taxi drivers who said there were some underground strip clubs that only insiders knew about.
Is there a ban on clubs where the girls dance? And does anyone have more information? I would really appreciate information from those of you who know.
BroComplex
09-19-25, 04:01
I believe the best are to stay in Jakarta is around classic hotel. You will be close enough to the nice area in the center and 10 minutes away from travel hotel.
I went to Central Park mall. It's larger than grand Indonesia mall but it's much further and I prefer the grand Indonesia. Don't waste your time going to Central Park.
I only had one session at classic because I had to wake up early and be a tourist. I entered at 8:30 pm. A tall and skinny mama grabbed me then another short older mama said something to her and she grabbed me instead. I objected and said I wanted that tall mama and went with her. Now when I think about it I shouldn't have done that because they probably take turns and it might have not be the tall mama turn and I might caused the short mama to lose face and it's not a good idea to upset them.
I'm still haven't had a good meal. In Jakarta. I went to a restaurant next to classic called Joni steak house or something and it was the worst steak I have ever had. It didn't taste like meat it tasted like plastic.
Hung Man 1808
09-19-25, 04:06
Would you recommend a good hotel to stay in the middle between the slums and the nice areas?
Let's say equivalent in price and quality to an HolidayInn?Well there is more than one Holiday Inn in Jakarta.
Let your favourite hotel booking engine do the searching. For all else, there is the Jakarta hotels section.
I believe the best are to stay in Jakarta is around classic hotel. You will be close enough to the nice area in the center and 10 minutes away from travel hotel.
I went to Central Park mall. It's larger than grand Indonesia mall but it's much further and I prefer the grand Indonesia. Don't waste your time going to Central Park.
I only had one session at classic because I had to wake up early and be a tourist. I entered at 8:30 pm. A tall and skinny mama grabbed me then another short older mama said something to her and she grabbed me instead. I objected and said I wanted that tall mama and went with her. Now when I think about it I shouldn't have done that because they probably take turns and it might have not be the tall mama turn and I might caused the short mama to lose face and it's not a good idea to upset them.
I'm still haven't had a good meal. In Jakarta. I went to a restaurant next to classic called Joni steak house or something and it was the worst steak I have ever had. It didn't taste like meat it tasted like plastic.Being close to the action is essential unless you monger at night. If you monger in the afternoon you will find traffic backed-up solid everywhere. But even staying very close is not a guarantee you can get there easily. I'm staying at Moevenpick Peconongan. Yesterday I asked the taxi to close the ride to Classic so that I could walk because traffic was not moving. I'm staying 800 m as the crow flies from Classic but there's a dangerous chaotic intersection (Peconongan / Samanhudi) to negotiate. To walk safely I'd have to walk on the other side of the road all the way to Pasar Baru in order to use the pedestrian overpass bringing me to Classic's side of the road. That means a 3-km walk.
I've given up on Kota Indah because of traffic. I don't monger any later than 6 pm.
Even if you monger at night you'll be confined to your hotel most of the day, so not scrounging on your hotel budget is essential.
By the way, the Bluebird app stubbordly refused to locate Hotel Classic, fobbing me off with another hotel Classic somewhere in Jakarta. Even entering "Hotel Classic Jl Samanhudi" didn't help. This must be a feature of the app, some kind of censorship? I can't believe Hotel Classic to be that unknown, not with dozens of passengers taking a taxi to it every single day of the year.
Indeed going to Central Park can be a 2-hour ride. Last time I went I had to ask the taxi to find a place for me to relieve my bladder in a Soi. Plaza Indonesia/ Grand Indonesia is the only game in town. I have found the upmarket restaurants in the plazas to be neither good nor good value for money. The best food I've had has been at Moevenpick's (of which I especially recommend the Cantonese restaurant).
I strongly recommend Movenpick for a stay, its new and opened last summer only. Great location for Emporium and Classic lovers. Rooms are modern, although a little small for my liking. BF spread is huge, and their Italian on the ground floor is very nice. I'll try the Cantonese in my next trip and bringing girls to your room is no hassle at all. Big thumbs up.
Being close to the action is essential unless you monger at night. If you monger in the afternoon you will find traffic backed-up solid everywhere. But even staying very close is not a guarantee you can get there easily. I'm staying at Moevenpick Peconongan. Yesterday I asked the taxi to close the ride to Classic so that I could walk because traffic was not moving. I'm staying 800 m as the crow flies from Classic but there's a dangerous chaotic intersection (Peconongan / Samanhudi) to negotiate. To walk safely I'd have to walk on the other side of the road all the way to Pasar Baru in order to use the pedestrian overpass bringing me to Classic's side of the road. That means a 3-km walk.
I've given up on Kota Indah because of traffic. I don't monger any later than 6 pm.
Even if you monger at night you'll be confined to your hotel most of the day, so not scrounging on your hotel budget is essential.
By the way, the Bluebird app stubbordly refused to locate Hotel Classic, fobbing me off with another hotel Classic somewhere in Jakarta. Even entering "Hotel Classic Jl Samanhudi" didn't help. This must be a feature of the app, some kind of censorship? I can't believe Hotel Classic to be that unknown, not with dozens of passengers taking a taxi to it every single day of the year..
There is a very decent Chinese restaurant just give it a try, come out of emporium and walk left towards classic, on your left just before the red light. I think opposite red top hotel.
I'm still haven't had a good meal. In Jakarta. I went to a restaurant next to classic called Joni steak house or something and it was the worst steak I have ever had. It didn't taste like meat it tasted like plastic.
BroComplex
09-19-25, 07:02
The best food I've had has been at Moevenpick's (of which I especially recommend the Cantonese restaurant).I just had lunch there and I agree their food excellent. I paid 400 k which is not cheap but totally worth it.
Hello everyone,
I am planning an upcoming trip to Cambodia Thailand and Indonesia (Jakarta only) in October. So far my itinerary will be 1 week Jakarta, 1 week Phnom Penh and then 2 weeks Pattaya.
By now I am an expert on Pattaya but I have never been to either Phnom Penh or Jakarta.
The focus for me really is just mongering. I have little interest in sightseeing or any other activity (will probably still do some during daytime if nothing else to do). Can you guys recommend a hot spot that is close to the action in Jakarta and still allows to conveniently check out places like classic hotel? I will ofc be using taxis or uber to get around mostly I guess but I would like to be close (ish) to many different spots as I often like to just walk around from bar to bar and check what's on the menu.
Is that even possible in Jakarta?
I just had lunch there and I agree their food excellent. I paid 400 k which is not cheap but totally worth it.There's some excellent food in Jakarta, there's the famous Nasi Goreng Kambing (Mark Wiens and many others been there) or Nasi Goreng Bistik which is right opposite Classic. Or opposite Travel and 2 doors up from Redstar Hotel the best Fried Chicken I've ever had, tons of garlic. A massive portion for like USD3. And these places are filled with locals so you know it's good. Soto Betawi the curry coconut soup with lamb is really addictive as well as Te Manis iced tea.
I often like to just walk around from bar to bar and check what's on the menu.
Is that even possible in Jakarta?Jakarta is not at all a walker friendly city. Technically, it's possible but expect ankle breaking sidewalks, if there are any at all, suicidal attempts at crossing the road, suffocating exhaust pollution, and depending on the time of the year, potentially oppressive heat.
There is a reason that not even the poorest of the poor are seen walking anywhere. There is zero chance a hooker will follow you and walk back to your hotel.
Grab and Gocar are your friends.
Enjoy. G.
PS. I should have added that, since the demise of Blok M, there is no bar precinct. In Jakarta, you pick a place and go there for the afternoon or night. Start early and you may visit a second but there won't be any pub crawl.
Jakarta is not at all a walker friendly city. Technically, it's possible but expect ankle breaking sidewalks, if there are any at all, suicidal attempts at crossing the road, suffocating exhaust pollution, and depending on the time of the year, potentially oppressive heat.
There is a reason that not even the poorest of the poor are seen walking anywhere. There is zero chance a hooker will follow you and walk back to your hotel.
Grab and Gocar are your friends.
Enjoy. G.
PS. I should have added that, since the demise of Blok M, there is no bar precinct. In Jakarta, you pick a place and go there for the afternoon or night. Start early and you may visit a second but there won't be any pub crawl.Oh that is very unfortunate. I already read about traffic being a pain and getting around is not convenient but this effectively means that aside from being close to the 2-3 venues that are known (Classic, no idea about the others.) the rest does not matter much? I had hoped I can check out 3-4 venues beginning from the afternoon going into the night and take *2-3 girls* per day.
At least that was my idea as I only have a week I want to maximize the nutting :)
Oh that is very unfortunate. I already read about traffic being a pain and getting around is not convenient but this effectively means that aside from being close to the 2-3 venues that are known (Classic, no idea about the others.) the rest does not matter much? I had hoped I can check out 3-4 venues beginning from the afternoon going into the night and take *2-3 girls* per day.
At least that was my idea as I only have a week I want to maximize the nutting :)If you're there for a week just space the areas that interest you out over the separate days.
2 or 3 girls per day isn't a challenge in the slightest. But you want be doing multiple establishments per night. Kota to Kemang could easily be several hours driving.
G.
BroComplex
09-19-25, 09:35
There's some excellent food in Jakarta, there's the famous Nasi Goreng Kambing (Mark Wiens and many others been there) or Nasi Goreng Bistik which is right opposite Classic. Or opposite Travel and 2 doors up from Redstar Hotel the best Fried Chicken I've ever had, tons of garlic. A massive portion for like USD3. And these places are filled with locals so you know it's good. Soto Betawi the curry coconut soup with lamb is really addictive as well as Te Manis iced tea.The places you are mentioning are small local mom and pop's diners that could be the best food you ever ate or diarrhea for a week. It could go either way. I noticed they like to pre cook the food and leave it exposed which I'm not a fan of.
BroComplex
09-19-25, 09:37
If you're there for a week just space the areas that interest you out over the separate days.
2 or 3 girls per day isn't a challenge in the slightest. But you want be doing multiple establishments per night. Kota to Kemang could easily be several hours driving.
G.The issue is the only open at night so you kinda have to do all your sessions in a 6 hours window. Let's say you went to classic t2 at 3 pm, t5 and travel don't open until 6 if I'm not mistaken.
The issue is the only open at night so you kinda have to do all your sessions in a 6 hours window. Let's say you went to classic t2 at 3 pm, t5 and travel don't open until 6 if I'm not mistaken.You're correct. Jakarta isn't for you if your chasing options for morning or early afternoon action. Especially incalls.
Online is possible but even then it's easier to keep a girl all night than to find a new one early in the day.
G.
Asian Rain
09-19-25, 10:10
Oh that is very unfortunate. I already read about traffic being a pain and getting around is not convenient but this effectively means that aside from being close to the 2-3 venues that are known (Classic, no idea about the others.) the rest does not matter much? I had hoped I can check out 3-4 venues beginning from the afternoon going into the night and take *2-3 girls* per day.
At least that was my idea as I only have a week I want to maximize the nutting :)Okay stud. If it's quantity you want, Jakarta can out-pussy your dick any day. Since you pinned Classic, suggest to toggle between Classic and Kota Indah Complex bars. Remember that Classic is not just one bar, it is T2, T5 and Twhatever that you can walk to the elevator and "bar hop" in the same building. When you get tired of Classic venues, then take an under 15 min bike taxi ride (see map) to Kota Indah complex, which has 4-5 bars (LA, Sari Ayu, Royal, etc.) in a walkable horseshoe road. Some may disagree, but IMHO all of these venues are pretty much cookie cutter experiences in that you will find largely local clientele, loud music, smoky atmosphere, alcohol on tap, mamasans and girls of all shapes that you can fuck in all-inclusive onsite rooms for IDR400 k or less base price. If you add Travel Hotel, which is direcly in the middle on the same line, you can create a relatively close proximity Orion's Belt of North Jakarta meat markets. Most venues open early afternoon and go until early morning, so you generally have a daily 12-hour window to all-you-can-nut. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
A tall and skinny mama grabbed me then another short older mama said something to her and she grabbed me instead. I objected and said I wanted that tall mama and went with her. Now when I think about it I shouldn't have done that because they probably take turns and it might have not be the tall mama turn and I might caused the short mama to lose face and it's not a good idea to upset them.
I'm still haven't had a good meal. In Jakarta. I went to a restaurant next to classic called Joni steak house or something and it was the worst steak I have ever had. It didn't taste like meat it tasted like plastic.I wouldn't worry about that mama interaction.
Joni steak is indeed crap as far as beef is concerned and I can't understand why anyone here would recommend it. The only meat I enjoyed there is the chicken schnitzel, but fear not, less than a 10 minute walk from Classic there's a holycow restaurant (part of a chain). On the opposite side of the road from that restaurant, maybe 100 m closer to Classic, there's a big Indonesian restaurant which I cannot remember the name of, but which I also enjoyed.
A covered BJ usually results with me getting dressed and taking the loss of HF. Half the time the girl asks if I would stay and they would proceed with BBBJ. The issue is that some don't want clients going back down and complaining to the mms. They won't recommend those girls because it screws up their business and potential for mms tips.
BBBJ with decent fa is 100 k. If you're going to disagree with me for the 50 k, I'm not hearing it because it's $3. 50 and you can go talk to yourself.
BBBJ with BBFS is 300 k. I've given more when I feel the connection, their need, how hot they are, how honest they're being with me, whatever.
In the end, it's like $50 for a total bare sesh with a young skinny stunner. If it isn't, move on fast, don't waste the discharge on a bad target.You are a kind and generous man. If more people were like you, Jakarta would soon cease to be the financially attractive monger paradise it is, girls would start charging extra for every this and that, and throw your $3.50 tip for nothing back in your face.
HappyFarang
09-19-25, 13:56
Anyway, she turned out looking closer to 25 on close-up, and told me she was actually even older than that and a single mother. Could have fooled me, but then she started talking about condom for BJ. I just rolled my eyes at her, and told her no condom for BJ, and actually no condom for sex either. Had she insisted on condom for BJ, I'd walked out and at least try to insist on a new girl from that mamasan (though she had already let me down).Thanks for the report. So this covered blowjob BS does happen! Someone was making it like I was having hallucinations. This covered blowjob pantomime only happened in Classic.
I am reporting on another horrendous Lokasari encounter. I must admit I was wrong. I shouldn't pay in advance. The encounter was probably the poorest of my entire punting career. It was so bad that I'll just leave it out, nobody needs to hear about it.
Now Kota Indah was the real revelation. I like the set up, much easier and more stress-free when compared with Classic. I have only been to Sari Ayu and Laras Ayu, so I don't know about the other bars, but here the girls are all sitting in one area. All you have to do is to communicate to the Ibu what you like and she will laser a few girls for you. They will stand and come to you, you pick one, sit and chat with her. That's all.
I had two solid 9's, young, slim, probably two of the most attractive girls I've ever had. The effort was pretty good, but they were clearly inexperienced. That's not a bad thing, but a little guidance was needed. No mention of covered BJ, no issues with DFK, friendly. Had a great time.
I will return to Classic to try what was suggested by Fudimaar, as I think that Classic girls are maybe a little more experienced, but I'm glad KI exists. They are just very different and I'm sure I can enjoy both.
Now one quick question for the experts: what's the deal with Travel? I was staying 2 minutes away from it and never went there as it's rarely ever mentioned here, but from older reports I can see that it's very similar to Classic. Is there a reason nobody is reporting on Travel?
Changing topic, I have so far interacted with 4 different mamasans, in Classic T5, T2, Sari Ayu and Laras Ayu, and I never had a problem with any of them. All very friendly, I even shook hands with one of them. I have read of bad interaction with mamasans here and being new I know I am in no position of lecturing anyone, but if I may give some advice: smile like you mean it, just be a pleasant person, call her Ibu, ask her name, ask how are you. I don't see myself ever having a problem with any mamasan.
Asian Rain
09-19-25, 15:29
Changing topic, I have so far interacted with 4 different mamasans, in Classic T5, T2, Sari Ayu and Laras Ayu, and I never had a problem with any of them. All very friendly, I even shook hands with one of them. I have read of bad interaction with mamasans here and being new I know I am in no position of lecturing anyone, but if I may give some advice: smile like you mean it, just be a pleasant person, call her Ibu, ask her name, ask how are you. I don't see myself ever having a problem with any mamasan.4 mamasans is just enough to fill a table for a game of bridge. It might be correct that you will never have a problem with any mamasan, but consider that lasts only until you have a problem with a mamasan. Keep increasing your sample size and you will see. Keep on keep on. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
BroComplex
09-19-25, 16:30
Went to classic at 4:30 pm. When I walked in there was no mamas waiting at the door. Went to the left side tables and ordered a drink. Few minutes later the mamasans took their stations at the door. An Asian walking in and a mamasan grabbed him and sat him on the table in front of me. He ordered a drink and proceeded with rejecting a girl after a girl. The mamasans brought him two lines up of 5 or 5 girls which he rejected then brought him 4 more girls individually that he also rejected. Funny thing is I would have pick half of them gladly. I guess it's true Asians are very choosy. Few minutes later a mamasans approached me and asked me if I wanted a lady, I said yes and she came back with one of the best girls I've had in all of Asia. She and the girl from t5 are the best I had on this trip.
At 7 pm went to travel hotel. A mama got me a seat and brought me her entire lineup almost 20 girls. The attractive ones were sitting behind me kinda hoping a don't pick them. The chubbies were standing enthusiastically in front of me smiling. I decided to pick one of the mediocre girls in front of me. The room lady asked me for a tip which I rejected. The water is cold. There is a mirror on the ceiling. After the deed the girl asked me if I wanted to "give her something" the cashier tried to scam me.
Went to kota indah bars for a drink but didn't take a lady. What's the deal with Vfour there is always attractive girls in its lobby.
I feel like travel and kota indah bars are not a good as classic t2. They are more expensive and worse in every way.
Anyone else noticed how the cashiers don't give you all your change at the same time. Like if your change is 22 k they will give you 20 k and wait few seconds then give you the 2 k. I assume it's because they are hoping you forgot about it and leave.
Now one quick question for the experts: what's the deal with Travel? I was staying 2 minutes away from it and never went there as it's rarely ever mentioned here, but from older reports I can see that it's very similar to Classic. Is there a reason nobody is reporting on Travel?My personal experience of Travel has been this:
1) the girls sit far away, and it's difficult to see them properly. In Classic, you can walk past the sofas and be 5 feet away from the girls and have a good look, and assess the body language exchange as you smile at them. This is difficult at Travel.
2) Only some of the girls are on display. The rest are in this large room behind the live band stage. Strange arrangement, IMO.
3) covered BJ is common here. Most of the girls I had, insisted on it. And many of the girls looked at me as if I was an alien, when I asked them about BBBJ during the interview stage.
4) Most girls refused kissing, again, when I asked them at the interview. Some were totally perplexed by the question, as if it's something they've never done in their lives, like double anal.
So, I stopped going there 3 months ago. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
Oh, BTW, apparently Travel and Classic have the same owner. Not that that would affect our chances of getting our dicks sucked uncovered.
I feel like travel and kota indah bars are not a good as classic t2. They are more expensive and worse in every way.
Anyone else noticed how the cashiers don't give you all your change at the same time. Like if your change is 22 k they will give you 20 k and wait few seconds then give you the 2 k. I assume it's because they are hoping you forgot about it and leave.The cashiers at classic do that with the entire change on purpose. They give you your receipt and your door pass and then pretend that their job is done, hoping that you leave without your change. You have to wait awkwardly for at least 20 seconds before they start looking for your change. This still bothers me a little bit every time.
Banana Boi
09-19-25, 19:23
2) Only some of the girls are on display. The rest are in this large room behind the live band stage. Strange arrangement, IMOThat's the main part of Travel for me. That's where I find all my girls. The only time I see the girls in the band area is when I enter and leave Travel. Haven't found a girl in that part of Travel since 2018.
LoveItHere69
09-19-25, 21:03
The cashiers at classic do that with the entire change on purpose. They give you your receipt and your door pass and then pretend that their job is done, hoping that you leave without your change. You have to wait awkwardly for at least 20 seconds before they start looking for your change. T2 is not bad but T5 is horrible about me having to ask for the change versus just handing me the change like they are supposed to. Also T5, 15% of the time asking for a tip where no other place has ever asked me for a tip for making F-ing change which takes 3 minutes on my way out. I did give a tip of 10,000 to 9 of the cleaning crew on T2 once and they really appreciated it. I think they deserve a tip from time to time.
Travel at 7 pm went to travel hotel. A mama got me a seat and brought me her entire lineup almost 20 girls. The attractive ones were sitting behind me kinda hoping a don't pick them. The chubbies were standing enthusiastically in front of me smiling. I decided to pick one of the mediocre girls in front of me. The room lady asked me for a tip which I rejected. The water is cold. There is a mirror on the ceiling. After the deed the girl asked me if I wanted to "give her something" the cashier tried to scam me.
Went to kota indah bars for a drink but didn't take a lady. What's the deal with Vfour there is always attractive girls in its lobby.Travel has the highest rejection rate. I tried a few girls I really wanted but knew they were not into me, and I could not change their opinion of me in the room so the deed was less than stellar for sure. It is best to use the mamasans at Travel because they know who each girl likes and does not like. Very hit and miss so pay attention to how the girl reacts you before you take her. I would not count Travel as a no-go just know your chances are lower here. Travel has the worst ventilation. Non-smokers (me) nearly die if entering after 10:00 pm.
Vfour. First 2 times were good with condom which the girl and mamasan both told me. Third visit a month or so later the mamasan told me twice must use condom. Then we go to the entrance area to pay. I have my money out ready to pay. My mamasan stands to the side of the entrance area (inside) and her boss (guy) then starts talking to me repeating the same questions I already told the mamasan as to how much time and he tells me condom again. I do not like explaining what I want to 2 different people and being told again and again condom condom condom. I hate being treated like a child and having them tell me I have to use a condom. I am fine using a condom and only the girl I take needs to tell me. I tried 6 months later. Picked a girl and this time a cashier or mamasan behind the desk harped about the condom thing. WTF! I walked out the door with the girl waiting on the staircase. I felt bad for the girl when I left but I was pissed off.
That's the main part of Travel for me. That's where I find all my girls. The only time I see the girls in the band area is when I enter and leave Travel. Haven't found a girl in that part of Travel since 2018.Exactly. And in this part, you can see them as up close as in classic.
Muzungufotsy
09-20-25, 01:57
I can see that every day.
Attitude of the girls are changing as more and more silly mongers come here and do dumb mistakes that I never did in 10 years here.
Paying in advance then complain the service is shit.
Giving 100% tip for BBFS who used to be standard for years.
Accepting covered BJ without complaining right away.
Letting the Mamasan choose the girl for you.
Believing all the BS that girls and mamasans tell you.
I could go on and on.
Keep acting like morons gentlemen then the last heaven in SEA will soon disappear and become an overpriced dump with shit service like Pattaya or AC and then you can only blame yourselves.
Behind the cashier at T2 Classic there's a sign that means: "If anyone in our staff ask you for a tip, please report to us. We shall put our foot down". I never tipped anyone but the girls at Classic's. By now when they see me struggling to remove the staples from the banknotes, the mamasans know I'll pocket the change from the 400 k. They thank me all the same for the custom, which shows leaving them the change is not necessary to be valued as a customer. I hadn't notice any fishing for change at the cashier.'s But that may be because after keeping the change from every room I do, when the time comes to leave I have the exact change to pay for my two cokes (60k).
So the rejection rate is high at Travel? I'll be stopping the risk-taking and the doxycycline 3 days before I leave Jakarta (to allow some buffer time before I resume sun exposure in Thailand). I was thinking of doing covered in Travel for my last 3 days but maybe I'll opt for Emporium instead. At least at Emporium the rejection rate is zero and it would sure ruin my mood to get hectored about condoms at Travel when having condom sex was the very purpose of my coming there.
From what I remember from Travel 20 years ago, Travel was the worst fire-trap possible, worse still - if such a thing is possible - than other places like Classic. Venues in Jakarta seem to have been designed so that only securities at the gate have any chance of surviving a fire.
FFlintstone69
09-20-25, 04:44
I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:
1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.
The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.
HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.
I'll do doxocycline only. I've had two shots of the Brexsero vaccine already. I may take 800 MG of Cefixime before I fly back to Thailand just to be on the safe side. The last thing I want is to give gonorrhea to my long-standing bareback regular Thai girl.
I sessioned 3 girls in Classic today. I don't recount my barebacking success here in this post because I don't want Classic staff who possibly read of this forum to be able to identify the girl(s). Something I was told today suggests BBFS might be against Classic house rules.I rec'd that a few years ago and thought I was in hell with fever dreams etc it was Thee worst thing I've ever experienced, I contacted my MD and he said yes this can happen it is a live virus vax.
Prep isn't nearly as bad but I will never take it again, feeling like one was hit by a train isn't conducive to enjoying this hobby.
Ulalaulala123
09-20-25, 09:10
Which one's better for mongering (and maybe some sightseeing). Haven't visited Indonesia before but been to pattaya multiple times. Is there something similar to thaifriendly here?
HappyFarang
09-20-25, 14:40
4 mamasans is just enough to fill a table for a game of bridge. It might be correct that you will never have a problem with any mamasan, but consider that lasts only until you have a problem with a mamasan. Keep increasing your sample size and you will see. Keep on keep on. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.You are probably right. It's just that the vibes are so good that I can't imagine experiencing anything like that. Maybe I am an optimist.
My personal experience of Travel has been this:Covered BJ is common and no kissing = f* that! No point wasting my time in Travel then. Thanks for the precious info. =).
. Vfour. First 2 times were good with condom which the girl and mamasan both told me. Third visit a month or so later the mamasan told me twice must use condom. Then we go to the entrance area to pay. I have my money out ready to pay. My mamasan stands to the side of the entrance area (inside) and her boss (guy) then starts talking to me repeating the same questions I already told the mamasan as to how much time and he tells me condom again. I do not like explaining what I want to 2 different people and being told again and again condom condom condom. I hate being treated like a child and having them tell me I have to use a condom. I am fine using a condom and only the girl I take needs to tell me. I tried 6 months later. Picked a girl and this time a cashier or mamasan behind the desk harped about the condom thing. WTF! I walked out the door with the girl waiting on the staircase. I felt bad for the girl when I left but I was pissed off.Is VFOUR similar to the other bars like Sari Ayu? 400 k for one girl?
HappyFarang
09-20-25, 14:49
Which one's better for mongering (and maybe some sightseeing). Haven't visited Indonesia before but been to pattaya multiple times. Is there something similar to thaifriendly here?Jakarta by a mile. As a newbie, I would stay in a hotel around Lokasari / Travel hotel area, which is close to both Kota Indah and Classic. There are a lot of hotels in this area. Use Traveloka, much better than Booking.
I read about a place outside Jakarta, in the East, called Bekasi, where fun can also be had in massage places. That's also interesting and would like to eventually visit it, but it's far from the airport and probably too much trouble if it's your first time here.
BroComplex
09-20-25, 20:37
I woke up at 9 pm. Shower and change and I was out the door at 9:30.
First I wanted a coffee. But almost all coffee shops close at 10 pm. I barely found one that closes at 11 pm. This one of the issues I have with Jakarta. Restaurants and coffee shops close way too early.
I went to the local restaurant in front of classic. They have two different dishes. A soup noodles with meat balls and beef with broth. The beef is excellent. It's the perfect meal to eat before drinking.
10:30 classic t2. The place was too busy and chaotic. When I walked in there was no mamas waiting on the door. I walked around looking for a table and all the tables were full. Luckily a group just left and I sat on their table. A Chinese guys asked if I would share the table with him and his friend and I agreed. They bought me a beer as a thank you. One of the Chinese guys was very extroverted and not shy at all, I would say he was too comfortable in that environment the other one was too shy. He didn't talk, touch or look at any girl while was in there.
The extroverted Chinese guy kept walking up mamasans and asking them to bring their girls. Every few minutes he comes back with a new lined up. Using a translation app he asked me to pick a girl. I picked one and after a few minutes sent her back. I felt like she assumed she was going with the Chinese and was disappointed. A couple of line up more and I picked a mediocre girl just because it was 11:30 and I want to cum and leave.
While my girl was getting her back a mama came with a hot line up and one of them was the hot girl I went with the other day. Damn she was hot and I wanted her bad. She hugged me and pointed at herself and said chikka or something and then said you not remember I said yes but I have to go now and she got upset and said but you don't remember me you crazy and she got upset and left. Everyone at the table found that amusing my girl and the Chinese guy girl were asking if she was my girlfriend.
Classic was so busy that we took an elevator to the rooms in level 5.
Went to kota indah at 12 am. Sari ayu gets mentioned a lot but I've been twice and both times are unsuccessful. The bar that you should go is laras ayu which is next to royal something. It's not on google maps. Both times I've been there I was greeted by a mama that took me to the area where the girls are setting. Just pick a girl, pay up and go straight to the room.
The girl I picked was one of the top 3 girls in this trip. The other two are the crazy t2 girl and the t5 girl.
I went to Vfour and the place was crowded and I got ignored. I've seen a guy looking at a lineup and didn't think the girls look good. The girls are laras are much better.
I got to say the set up in Jakarta allows you access to top tier girls for next to nothing. The laras ayu girl could easily work in any pattaya walking street gogo bar and demand 10,000 baht barfine. In classic you could have a 10/10 or a 2/10 for the same price. Jakarta is a hot girl gold mine.
I strongly recommend Movenpick for a stay, its new and opened last summer only. Great location for Emporium and Classic lovers. Rooms are modern, although a little small for my liking. BF spread is huge, and their Italian on the ground floor is very nice. I'll try the Cantonese in my next trip and bringing girls to your room is no hassle at all. Big thumbs up.Great location indeed, but rooms are very small for the price. Even worse, there were roaches in the bathroom on a recent visit. All the hotel offered was to apologize, change rooms, and offer a free drink at happy hour.
While my girl was getting her back a mama came with a hot line up and one of them was the hot girl I went with the other day. Damn she was hot and I wanted her bad. She hugged me and pointed at herself and said chikka or something and then said you not remember I said yes but I have to go now and she got upset and said but you don't remember me you crazy and she got upset and left. Everyone at the table found that amusing my girl and the Chinese guy girl were asking if she was my girlfriend.
Chica (Chika?). I also enjoyed banging her and would rate her as one of the prettier girls I saw at Classic this summer (an 8 in my book). Friendly too, even if slightly too hyper for me. Tried to convince her to let me fuck her ass with my dick, rather than only my thumb, if I choose her next time too, but she was cagey about confirming that for sure. So plus for honesty if nothing else.
Tricky situation, with you already having paid / signed for the mediocre girl. Myself, I'd ask Chica's mama to help me cancel the other girl, and then tipping the other girl 50-100 k to be polite, google-translating to her sorry, so sorry, giving the white lie that I had already promised to go with Chica from before. No way I'd do that if I knew she was going to get pissed like that though.
LetMeIn6969
09-20-25, 23:33
If your focus is just mongering, I would skip Phnom Penh. I've been there and it sucked: average price is $100 plus $20 bar fine, girls seemed eager and friendly at the bar but once back at the hotel, they became deadfish. For $120, you'll get 4 decent fucks in Classic.
Hello everyone,
I am planning an upcoming trip to Cambodia Thailand and Indonesia (Jakarta only) in October. So far my itinerary will be 1 week Jakarta, 1 week Phnom Penh and then 2 weeks Pattaya.
By now I am an expert on Pattaya but I have never been to either Phnom Penh or Jakarta.
The focus for me really is just mongering. I have little interest in sightseeing or any other activity (will probably still do some during daytime if nothing else to do). Can you guys recommend a hot spot that is close to the action in Jakarta and still allows to conveniently check out places like classic hotel? I will ofc be using taxis or uber to get around mostly I guess but I would like to be close (ish) to many different spots as I often like to just walk around from bar to bar and check what's on the menu.
Is that even possible in Jakarta?
LoveItHere69
09-21-25, 00:53
Is VFOUR similar to the other bars like Sari Ayu? 400 k for one girl?Yes. Same price.
I rec'd that a few years ago and thought I was in hell with fever dreams etc it was Thee worst thing I've ever experienced, I contacted my MD and he said yes this can happen it is a live virus vax.
Prep isn't nearly as bad but I will never take it again, feeling like one was hit by a train isn't conducive to enjoying this hobby.Funny because I too swear never to have that vaccine again. I had scheduled 3 jabs but I'll stop at the 2 I've had so far. My arm hurt so badly for at least 10 days I had to take ibuprofen to sleep and apply diclofenac gel several times a day. The pain didn't come right after the jab then subside like vaccine pain normally does. It started to hurt a few hours after the jab and got worse and worse. So it's nothing to do with the syringe but more with its content.
My friends,
In case you are feeling lazy and don't want to go to out. Or you stay at hotel and want massage and hand / BJ release in your room.
I found a good at home massage servcs. You can look up Zahirra Home Service Massage on googles.
I staying in SCBD hotel. I sent Whatsapp message and requested girl massage. They sent me few photos. I choose Ochi.
She looked decent in photos. She came over in 20 minutes. Looked like photo. Slightly above average MILF type with nice personality.
Didn't really dress sexy, but I was turned on.
Great 90 min massage and HJ for 700 K. Maybe that's expensive, but I didn't want to leave my hotel. She is okay with more services.
Try if you want.
HappyFarang
09-21-25, 15:14
While my girl was getting her back a mama came with a hot line up and one of them was the hot girl I went with the other day. Damn she was hot and I wanted her bad. She hugged me and pointed at herself and said chikka or something and then said you not remember I said yes but I have to go now and she got upset and said but you don't remember me you crazy and she got upset and left. Everyone at the table found that amusing my girl and the Chinese guy girl were asking if she was my girlfriend.What day / time did you go? I'd like to see this girl.
HappyFarang
09-21-25, 15:17
Yes. Same price.Thanks. I suppose it's the same price in all of Kota Indah.
One thing I forgot to mention in my report is that both girls I had in KI said they were new. The first girl had only been working there for 3 days, and the other girl for 1 month. No wonder they seemed inexperienced.
My personal experience of Travel has been this:
2) Only some of the girls are on display. The rest are in this large room behind the live band stage. Strange arrangement, IMO.Are you shy? In that room you can walk around freely, talk to the girls, select if you wish -- what is your problem with that?
BroComplex
09-21-25, 16:08
Final night in Jakarta.
I went to money changer in grand Jakarta mall and the rate for $100 was 1642,000 best rate in town I've seen.
Went to classic t2 at 6 pm. A mama got me a seat and called all her girls for a line up. You can tell who wants to go with you and who doesn't by where they stand. I spotted a few hot girls but they were standing in the back behind the other girls looking away and trying to hide. I picked one of the girls standing in the front. She was okay looking, definitely above average but no where near my top 3 girls. Uneventful session except I couldn't easily finish. I banged her for 15 minutes straight which is unusual for me I'm usually a minute man.
I ordered a beer and sat for a while hoping to recover my stamina but I just didn't have it in me. The place was still empty and the atmosphere is dead. Nothing like last night.
I had dinner and coffee then went to kota indah at 8 pm.
Went to MTR it's the same layout as laras ayu with the girls having their own section in the back for the bar. There is no mamasan near the door to show you the girls you have to walk in by yourself and awkwardly stand in front of the girls until someone comes help you. The girls here are not bad looking either but I think the girls at laras ayu are better. I didn't pick anyone but I had a beer for about 15 minutes. I noticed a lot of the customers are Japanese.
Went to laras ayu and as usual the mamasans sitting outside and one of them walked me to the girls. I picked a short girl with dyed hair. Again I couldn't finish easily. I banged the poor girl for 20 minutes straight.
I guess I had enough sex. Jakarta has finally defeated me. I can finally go home totally satisfied.
LoveItHere69
09-21-25, 20:32
Went to MTR it's the same layout as laras ayu with the girls having their own section in the back for the bar. There is no mamasan near the door to show you the girls you have to walk in by yourself and awkwardly stand in front of the girls until someone comes help you. I didn't pick anyone but I had a beer for about 15 minutes. I noticed a lot of the customers are Japanese.I think I have checked the place out 6 times. Tried 2 different girls and both were good. None of the mamasans have ever fought over me the six times I visited. Most ignored me even when I was sitting on the stool in front of the girls next to the staircase. Last time I sat there for 20 minutes and no one even asked if I wanted a drink so I walked out for the 4th time with no bedroom visit. This place sucks for me.
One thing I forgot to mention in my report is that both girls I had in KI said they were new. The first girl had only been working there for 3 days, and the other girl for 1 month. No wonder they seemed inexperienced.If you wanted a college girl she would have been a college girl. If you wanted a virgin you would have gotten a virgin. I wanted a new girl. Soon after entering the room I realized I had been with her before. It was still good. Told the mamasan and she explained that the girl had quit for 3 months and returned so she was now new again.
In Colombia I went to a brothel looking for this certain black girl. But she was not there and never was. They use her picture to get guys in to do the "Bait and Switch". They gave me a regular Colombian girl and informed me that she was black. I walked out never to return.
HappyFarang
09-22-25, 15:16
If you wanted a college girl she would have been a college girl. If you wanted a virgin you would have gotten a virgin. I wanted a new girl. Soon after entering the room I realized I had been with her before. It was still good. Told the mamasan and she explained that the girl had quit for 3 months and returned so she was now new again.It's not like I had requested a "new" girl. I obtained this information only when I was chatting with the girls and asked how long they had been working there. There was no reason for them to lie.
But now that you mention it, the mamasans did point at some of the girls and told me which ones were new. I wasn't even paying attention but maybe that's what they think people want.
Medellin65
09-22-25, 17:56
Final night in Jakarta.
I went to money changer in grand Jakarta mall and the rate for $100 was 1642,000 best rate in town I've seen..I didn't find any Grand Jakarta Mall on Google Maps. Maybe you're confusing it with "Grand Indonesia Mall".
Medellin65
09-22-25, 18:04
Can anyone tell me, based on their knowledge, which of the following three hotels is the best for a two-week stay in Jakarta?
(location, cleanliness, and value for money).
1) Holiday Inn & Suites Gaja Mada.
2) Sparks Life.
3) Luminor.
My budget is around 50 euros a night.
More suggest apcetted.
Attila The Hun
09-22-25, 18:14
I can see that every day.
Attitude of the girls are changing as more and more silly mongers come here and do dumb mistakes that I never did in 10 years here.
Paying in advance then complain the service is shit.
Giving 100% tip for BBFS who used to be standard for years.
Accepting covered BJ without complaining right away.
Letting the Mamasan choose the girl for you.
Believing all the BS that girls and mamasans tell you.
I could go on and on.
Keep acting like morons gentlemen then the last heaven in SEA will soon disappear and become an overpriced dump with shit service like Pattaya or AC and then you can only blame yourselves.Jakarta is dead already bro. I went there two years ago and it was still amazing, but since I started writing my reports here that Jakarta has the best price / pop ratio in all of SEA it quickly turned into a new Pattaya. Now the only option for a good price / pop ratio and good service in SEA are other cities in Indonesia and boy, do we know little about Indonesia!
BroComplex
09-22-25, 20:41
Jakarta is dead already bro. I went there two years ago and it was still amazing, but since I started writing my reports here that Jakarta has the best price / pop ratio in all of SEA it quickly turned into a new Pattaya. Now the only option for a good price / pop ratio and good service in SEA are other cities in Indonesia and boy, do we know little about Indonesia!I literally only seen 2 whites guys and one black guy in classic / travel / kota indah. If anyone is ruining the market for you it's the Asian.
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While my girl was getting her back a mama came with a hot line up and one of them was the hot girl I went with the other day. Damn she was hot and I wanted her bad. She hugged me and pointed at herself and said chikka or something and then said you not remember I said yes but I have to go now and she got upset and said but you don't remember me you crazy and she got upset and left. Everyone at the table found that amusing my girl and the Chinese guy girl were asking if she was my girlfriend.
.Jiggy jiggy is probably what she said I've hear them saying that before. Think it loosely translates as let's have sex. Hahaha.
Jiggy jiggy is probably what she said I've hear them saying that before. Think it loosely translates as let's have sex. Hahaha."Dipakai sebagai eufemisme atau plesetan untuk kegiatan seksual ("bikin seks") = "Used jokingly or as an understatement to refer to sexual intercourse ("having sex").
Can anyone tell me, based on their knowledge, which of the following three hotels is the best for a two-week stay in Jakarta?
(location, cleanliness, and value for money).
1) Holiday Inn & Suites Gaja Mada.
2) Sparks Life.
3) Luminor.
My budget is around 50 euros a night.
More suggest apcetted.Holiday Inn: nice with a pool. But long "walk of shame" if you bring back a girl plus the traffic in front sucks if you want to go to Travel / Classic etc.
Sparks: most rooms simple and small window. Ok for 1 or 2 nights but not for a long stay.
Luminor: good rooms, good breakfast buffet. But no pool.
BroComplex
09-23-25, 10:24
I didn't find any Grand Jakarta Mall on Google Maps. Maybe you're confusing it with "Grand Indonesia Mall".Yes grand Indonesia. The money changer is in the west mall basement. It's called dua sisi.
I literally only seen 2 whites guys and one black guy in classic / travel / kota indah. If anyone is ruining the market for you it's the Asian.I see more white buys than that most nights, whenever I go there, which is about 4 times a week.
But I also see tons of (non-Indo) Asians. And many Chindo's. Also groups of Indians. I hear English being widely spoken. I suspect a lot of Singaporeans fly out here for there weekend for the sex.
I'd say that many of the clients are non-Indonesians. As long as the structure remains "catering for the locals", we're OK, but once it becomes mainly catering for the rich foreigners, then we're all fucked. Or not.
Anyone care to guess what percentage of the clientele are foreigners? I'll ask the girls when I visit.
It's not like I had requested a "new" girl. I obtained this information only when I was chatting with the girls and asked how long they had been working there. There was no reason for them to lie.
But now that you mention it, the mamasans did point at some of the girls and told me which ones were new. I wasn't even paying attention but maybe that's what they think people want.Some people seem to walk around thinking every girl / woman is lying to them. New girls arrive at Classic all the time, so it would be rather strange if none of us, coincidentally or intentionally, ever chose one of them.
New may be good, not because she will provide anything special, but because new hot girls seem to quickly disappear to greener, some times more expensive, pastures. The two-three hottest girls (new indeed) I've banged at Classic I could only bang once, because 4-5 days later, when I wanted to repeat, they were gone already. If you have a decent enough relationship with mama so that she will not intentionally lie, it's worthwhile to cast an extra glance at the "new girl" today, as if she's really hot, she may be gone tomorrow. Of course, in most cases, new girl is just some average girl, so doesn't matter if she's new or not.
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New may be good, not because she will provide anything special, but because new hot girls seem to quickly disappear to greener, some times more expensive, pastures. The two-three hottest girls (new indeed) I've banged at Classic I could only bang once, because 4-5 days later, when I wanted to repeat, they were gone already...Exactly my experience.
Planned to go to Grand Indonesia. Just told the taxi to bring me back to the hotel. I wish hotel staff had given me a hint.
FriendlyPlanet
09-24-25, 21:50
Jakarta is dead already bro. I went there two years ago and it was still amazing, but since I started writing my reports here that Jakarta has the best price / pop ratio in all of SEA it quickly turned into a new Pattaya. Now the only option for a good price / pop ratio and good service in SEA are other cities in Indonesia and boy, do we know little about Indonesia!LOL- been going to Jakarta for 25 years, and if you claimed it's been ruined in that time (demise of Blok M, TC, Stadium, Alexis, etc) I'the at least say you have a point. Last two years? Nah, maybe a little price inflation, but that's about it.
As for the rest of Indonesia, I've been to Bintan / Batam, Yogyakarta, Surabaya in the Dolly days, Medan, Lombok, and Bali many times since 1985. There's basically no place like Jakarta for price / performance and variety anywhere else in Asia (now that China is dead).
Maybe try going somewhere else than Classic? There's a lot of options for f you just RTFF.
HappyFarang
09-25-25, 00:53
New may be good, not because she will provide anything special, but because new hot girls seem to quickly disappear to greener, some times more expensive, pastures. The two-three hottest girls (new indeed) I've banged at Classic I could only bang once, because 4-5 days later, when I wanted to repeat, they were gone already. If you have a decent enough relationship with mama so that she will not intentionally lie, it's worthwhile to cast an extra glance at the "new girl" today, as if she's really hot, she may be gone tomorrow. Of course, in most cases, new girl is just some average girl, so doesn't matter if she's new or not.Makes perfect sense. I ended up unintentionally picking the new girls just because they were very pretty. I have to say I wouldn't mind a more experienced girl for my next meeting.
I read in some of last year's reports that there are Telegram groups for Bekasi and Bogor. (Maybe even Jakarta?) How do I join them? I was considering a little excursion since it's not so far by taxi.
Holiday Inn: nice with a pool. But long "walk of shame" if you bring back a girl Its only a walk of shame if she's ugly.
I read in some of last year's reports that there are Telegram groups for Bekasi and Bogor. (Maybe even Jakarta?) How do I join them? I was considering a little excursion since it's not so far by taxi.In my preparation for next years trip I have created a new instagram profile last month where I follow all massage places in this area. Many massage shops follow me and I get a lot of suggestions for similar profiles. I finally received a link to some telegram groups, I haven't been accepted yet. But the tactics seem useful.
Its only a walk of shame if she's ugly.Not true: I am the ugly fat one.
HappyFarang
09-25-25, 13:29
In my preparation for next years trip I have created a new instagram profile last month where I follow all massage places in this area. Many massage shops follow me and I get a lot of suggestions for similar profiles. I finally received a link to some telegram groups, I haven't been accepted yet. But the tactics seem useful.Excellent, I just made an IG account and started following these massage places. I noticed that a lot of them advertise Telegram groups on their IG profiles, which I think are mostly for updates on the massage places but it's a start. I just need to learn more Indonesian.
Thanks for sharing this idea. =).
Hello,
I'm stopping over in Jakarta in October.
Have you ever tried any massage clubs / salons with happy endings near Jakarta's Soekarno-Hatta International Airport?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Steve 9696
09-25-25, 20:21
I am a RTFF guy and contribute a lot in Seeking Arrangement, São Paulo, and FKK threads. I am up on most things in Jakarta by reading along. Classic. Emporium. Etc. But I am not sure about the Karaoke scene there. Maybe it's not written about much because it sucks?
I'm willing to explore a bit and TOFTT if need be. I love me some Karaoke / KTV with pretty half naked girls. Anyone care to give me the scoop on that scene?
I am a RTFF guy and contribute a lot in Seeking Arrangement, So Paulo, and FKK threads. I am up on most things in Jakarta by reading along. Classic. Emporium. Etc. But I am not sure about the Karaoke scene there. Maybe it's not written about much because it sucks?
I'm willing to explore a bit and TOFTT if need be. I love me some Karaoke / KTV with pretty half naked girls. Anyone care to give me the scoop on that scene?Not sure about Karaoke with pretty half naked girls, but places like Emporium or 1001 has KTV rooms where you can take girls and they can be full-naked inside with you. These are just high-end places as compare to most other places in Jakarta, so will be expensive. But it is still pennies compared to western world.
Emporium is my favorite, as I like their girls more and I have better success rate with girls there giving me their contact numbers and willing to join me outside for Karaoke bars and pool table games.
In my last trip, I did 2 karaoke nights with Empo girls, (3-some). Spend couple of hours in KTV, then dinner and then hotel room for the night.
Offshore Swell
09-25-25, 23:17
I am a RTFF guy and contribute a lot in Seeking Arrangement, So Paulo, and FKK threads. I am up on most things in Jakarta by reading along. Classic. Emporium. Etc. But I am not sure about the Karaoke scene there. Maybe it's not written about much because it sucks?
I'm willing to explore a bit and TOFTT if need be. I love me some Karaoke / KTV with pretty half naked girls. Anyone care to give me the scoop on that scene?You have come to the right place if you like karaoke. Jakarta is full of them. Or better still, go to Cikarang which has a large population of Japanese / Koreans. Some people call them Asians. Or better still, find a group of Indonesians (Also known as Asians), and go party with them. What goes on in the Karaoke rooms will blow your mind. Definitely a quintessial Indonesian experience. Right up there with fried rice. Enjoy!
BlackPantherXX
09-26-25, 01:35
Okay stud. If it's quantity you want, Jakarta can out-pussy your dick any day. Since you pinned Classic, suggest to toggle between Classic and Kota Indah Complex bars. Remember that Classic is not just one bar, it is T2, T5 and Twhatever that you can walk to the elevator and "bar hop" in the same building. When you get tired of Classic venues, then take an under 15 min bike taxi ride (see map) to Kota Indah complex, which has 4-5 bars (LA, Sari Ayu, Royal, etc.) in a walkable horseshoe road. Some may disagree, but IMHO all of these venues are pretty much cookie cutter experiences in that you will find largely local clientele, loud music, smoky atmosphere, alcohol on tap, mamasans and girls of all shapes that you can fuck in all-inclusive onsite rooms for IDR400 k or less base price. If you add Travel Hotel, which is direcly in the middle on the same line, you can create a relatively close proximity Orion's Belt of North Jakarta meat markets. Most venues open early afternoon and go until early morning, so you generally have a daily 12-hour window to all-you-can-nut. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Those girls in Kotah indah bars, would they be up to follow you at your airbnb? For those not into out-of-home quickies lie in classic?
Steve 9696
09-26-25, 01:56
You have come to the right place if you like karaoke. Jakarta is full of them. Or better still, go to Cikarang which has a large population of Japanese / Koreans. Some people call them Asians. Or better still, find a group of Indonesians (Also known as Asians), and go party with them. What goes on in the Karaoke rooms will blow your mind. Definitely a quintessial Indonesian experience. Right up there with fried rice. Enjoy!That sounds great. Poked google maps a bit on KTV and found many. But really can't tell which would be best. Like the Masterpiece ones get good ratings but they says "Family Karaoke" right in their logo. Is that a thing? Or just a front.
Anyone have any KTV they recommend or to stay away from?
Lokasari: echoes a previous posters experience. Wonky eyed papasan points to 6 girls. Who weren't that great. Picked one papasan says 500 including room I say no I turn around he says ok 400 including everything. Paid the 110 k for hotel he demands another 100 k from me. Get to room the girls attitude changed for the worse. 2 sec blow job and complained the whole time. I will never repeat.
Bongkaran tanah Abang: saw this area on YouTube it's an underpass next to a station walked along checked out each lady but they are too old all old aunties.
Classic: went at midnight it was super busy girls didn't remain seated for long before being picked. Lots of attractive girls hard to choose. I chose one and never expected this to happen she demanded condom with blowjob. Managed to talk her out of it after a few minutes. Then demanded 500 k for no condom sex. Again ruining the experience I decided to use condom as she wasn't interested in anything less than 500 k it wasn't working. Took it off and renegotiated down to 200 k. At the end she asked if I stayed in holiday inn hotel I laughed because the penny dropped.
Seems to me new people are overpaying and ruining things maybe they are accustomed to paying $100 to getting a girl from a beer bar in Pnom penh.
Will see how the rest of the trip goes.
Has anyone been here, another joint like Emporium and 1001 colosseum but at a lower end, I believe girls are around 800 k-1 mio including a massage for 90 minutes. One of my ex-favourites from Emporium is here and asked me to come over and have a look. She shared my no with a mami and and is sending me daily updates. Anyone has any idea about this, do share!
Offshore Swell
09-26-25, 07:10
That sounds great. Poked google maps a bit on KTV and found many. But really can't tell which would be best. Like the Masterpiece ones get good ratings but they says "Family Karaoke" right in their logo. Is that a thing? Or just a front.
Anyone have any KTV they recommend or to stay away from?Family karaoke are the ones you don't go to.
HappyFarang
09-26-25, 10:22
Lokasari: echoes a previous posters experience. Wonky eyed papasan points to 6 girls. Who weren't that great. Picked one papasan says 500 including room I say no I turn around he says ok 400 including everything. Paid the 110 k for hotel he demands another 100 k from me. Get to room the girls attitude changed for the worse. 2 sec blow job and complained the whole time. I will never repeat.
Bongkaran tanah Abang: saw this area on YouTube it's an underpass next to a station walked along checked out each lady but they are too old all old aunties.
Classic: went at midnight it was super busy girls didn't remain seated for long before being picked. Lots of attractive girls hard to choose. I chose one and never expected this to happen she demanded condom with blowjob. Managed to talk her out of it after a few minutes. Then demanded 500 k for no condom sex. Again ruining the experience I decided to use condom as she wasn't interested in anything less than 500 k it wasn't working. Took it off and renegotiated down to 200 k. At the end she asked if I stayed in holiday inn hotel I laughed because the penny dropped.
Seems to me new people are overpaying and ruining things maybe they are accustomed to paying $100 to getting a girl from a beer bar in Pnom penh.
Will see how the rest of the trip goes.LOL I feel vindicated now. Someone said covered BJ was unheard of in Classic after two girls tried that with me, but you are the second person in the past week to share the same experience.
Regarding Lokasari, you should absolutely not have spent more than 300 k. Personally I wouldn't go there. I am sure there are hidden gems but not worth the (huge) risk.
Asian Rain
09-26-25, 11:37
LOL- been going to Jakarta for 25 years, and if you claimed it's been ruined in that time (demise of Blok M, TC, Stadium, Alexis, etc) I'the at least say you have a point. Last two years? Nah, maybe a little price inflation, but that's about it.Having also experienced Jakarta for the same timeframe, Jakarta has been quite resilient despite the demise of these major venues taking out 50-60% of the mongering capacity. That doesn't even count the impact of demolishing low-end venues like Kalijodo and Royal. After 25 years, I am still paying the same all-in cost for the same (or better) quality provider with the same (or better) service. For me, this means a baseline of 100% BBBJ and BBFSCIP (no talk of "virtually guaranteed", it's guaranteed without a single word of negotiation) with a cute 18-21 yo slim provider with no baby. To be fair, I don't want to portray some Instagram situation like I am immune from the occasional zonk experience, but some of the recent experiences posted here even by veterans are beyond the pale.
As for the rest of Indonesia, I've been to Bintan / Batam, Yogyakarta, Surabaya in the Dolly days, Medan, Lombok, and Bali many times since 1985. There's basically no place like Jakarta for price / performance and variety anywhere else in Asia (now that China is dead). I have no doubt that there are members who have a bead on these hush hush off-the-beaten-path venues which offer the cheapest price per pop talent. That being said, when I dig into the details there always seem to be trade-offs. Examples. Is there an international airport nearby with convenient access? Is the available accommodation nearby reasonably comfortable? Am I required to do the deed in a muggy fan-cooled brothel fuck box where mosquitoes feast on my sweating balls? Are there ample providers to match my criterion as above, or is there a mix of older MILFs with zipper scars? I can go on.
I have a close mongering mate who loves this kind of quest. And to be fair he finds some places that really hit the mark for quality at giveaway price. Most recently he invited me to join him to experience the brothels on the outskirts of Vang Vieng, Laos (FYI, which are now bulldozed out of existence for a highway). When he showed me the pics of the girls and told me what he was paying, I was all in. But then I discovered it takes a day to get there. You need to rent a scooter to get from the the hotel areas to the brothels. Then the deed gets done in a grotty fuck box with only a foam mattress on the floor, a fan for aircon and no attached shower or toilet. Again, I could go on, but once I calculated what was really the bottom line, it was an easy pass.
Maybe try going somewhere else than Classic? There's a lot of options for f you just RTFF. RTFF is not exactly in the skill set or temperament of many, especially the newbies who just rock up expecting to be spoon fed. So Classic it is until the day Classic isn't. Enjoy, AR.
Not true: I am the ugly fat one.So it's a walk of shame for the girl.
Steve 9696
09-27-25, 14:34
That sounds great. Poked google maps a bit on KTV and found many. But really can't tell which would be best. Like the Masterpiece ones get good ratings but they says "Family Karaoke" right in their logo. Is that a thing? Or just a front.
Anyone have any KTV they recommend or to stay away from?Seems def light on KTV intel here. May have to TOFTT. South Jakarta seems to have KTV clusters. Looks like Roppongi Papa and Triple 999 are the bigger players there. Pretty professional insta and WhatsApp. Anyone know anything or is it TOFTT time? I will def report out what I find.
Not sure about Karaoke with pretty half naked girls, but places like Emporium or 1001 has KTV rooms where you can take girls and they can be full-naked inside with you. These are just high-end places as compare to most other places in Jakarta, so will be expensive. But it is still pennies compared to western world.
Emporium is my favorite, as I like their girls more and I have better success rate with girls there giving me their contact numbers and willing to join me outside for Karaoke bars and pool table games.
In my last trip, I did 2 karaoke nights with Empo girls, (3-some). Spend couple of hours in KTV, then dinner and then hotel room for the night.Now Naked Karaoke does sound interesting. If anyone knows of good places for this I would be up for it. Maybe a BJ while I'm singing. I'm sure it would work in Emporium but the fees can be a bit high if I want to spend some time in KTV before the room.
Asian Rain
09-28-25, 09:11
Those girls in Kotah indah bars, would they be up to follow you at your airbnb? For those not into out-of-home quickies lie in classic?Emporium, 1001, Travel, Classic, Kota Indah bars, etc are set up as all-inclusive operations with the general expectation that services will be provided on-site. The girls are not freelancers. I have seen reports that girls can be brought out of some establishments by purchasing multiple tickets, which just means that you pay for multiple sessions for the privilege of takeout. My intuition is that many girls would prefer on-site for the safety and straightforwardness of the transaction, but you can explore.
Unfortunately the reliable and inexpensive freelance joints (eg TC in the North and Blok M bars in the South) are long gone. If you want girls back at your crib, there are mixed reports of using MiChat app or Lokasari girls. Seems to be either heaven or hell depending on the report. Read back and you will see the experiences. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
PopUpMenu123
09-28-25, 09:53
I'm looking for freelancers, or websites.
In Thailand we have sites like https://fan4you.nl/ or fiw fans or smocci, or you could go around the area near thermae and pick up freelancers.
Any advice for that in Jakarta? It's my first time there, if possible PM me or respond here.
FernandoAlonso
09-28-25, 10:19
I am a RTFF guy and contribute a lot in Seeking Arrangement, So Paulo, and FKK threads. I am up on most things in Jakarta by reading along. Classic. Emporium. Etc. But I am not sure about the Karaoke scene there. Maybe it's not written about much because it sucks?
I'm willing to explore a bit and TOFTT if need be. I love me some Karaoke / KTV with pretty half naked girls. Anyone care to give me the scoop on that scene?Why not just ask mate LOL. ? On the ground now, anything I can do happy to scoop out. The KTV might exist but will be targeting Chinese customers (good I miss the old days there). Should I find anything will report!
I've just returned from Classic T2 (Sunday eve) after an uncomfortable experience. I was happily banging one of my favourites there, when the room phone started ringing after literally just 30 minutes. I carried on as normal, and after 7-8 mins later, the phone rang and there was banging on the door, with someone telling us that our time was up. It was literally just 40 minutes at this stage.
I tipped the girl, apologized and left the room to talk to the receptionist. The receptionist was being a complete ***** and refused to give me straight answers (we were using Google Translate). I explained that I've been coming here for 4 months, and normally the phone rings after 45 minutes and we are supposed to get almost 1 hour. After 5 minutes of this of back and forth, another English speaking punter leaving the area commented to me that he got a knock on the door much earlier than expected as well. After a few more minutes, I realized that nothing will be done here, so I went upstairs and found the mami. I explained to her the situation. She was as wishy-washy as the receptionist. When I pushed her, and asked to speak to the manager, she took me to the billiard tables and asked me to wait near there, and she disappeared. After a few minutes, I realized that she's just bullshitting me, and I walk to the cashiers desk where you settle the bill. (This is why I never tip the mamis. When you need some sort of problem fixing, they don't give a shit.) A Google Translate convo with the cashier resulted in her saying that the manager is on holiday. So, I asked who's in charge, and she fobbed me off to the guy who stands at the exit door, making sure that no one leaves with their wrist band on. I once again explained the situation. He was polite and took me to a civilian looking buy sitting on one of the round tables. This guy had normal clothes on, no name badge, no indication that he was a customer or a manager. He spoke basic English and said that since yesterday (Saturday), the timings have been reduced. You now get 45 minutes in the room, and the phone is rung after 30 minutes.
I was sceptical about this guy being in any sort of managerial capacity. But I had gotten fed up with the whole thing by now and thanked him and left.
So, my question, gentlemen. Have any of you been to Classic this weekend, and how much time did you get there?
I've just returned from Classic T2 (Sunday eve) after an uncomfortable experience. I was happily banging one of my favourites there, when the room phone started ringing after literally just 30 minutes. I carried on as normal, and after 7-8 mins later, the phone rang and there was banging on the door, with someone telling us that our time was up. It was literally just 40 minutes at this stage.
I was sceptical about this guy being in any sort of managerial capacity. But I had gotten fed up with the whole thing by now and thanked him and left.
So, my question, gentlemen. Have any of you been to Classic this weekend, and how much time did you get there?Yes I was there today around 5 pm I was surprised to see every room downstairs had a red light on so they need to free the rooms up for the next customer. They probably do this when it gets busy. Before the weekend I was finished in 40 mins there was no phone ringing. I don't need an hour There's nothing else to do after you shoot your load.
I visited several karaoke places in Jakarta. They look like a regular nightclub where you can have a drink and then you meet a manager, often a pretty lady who takes you into a separate section. Behind a closed door. There you get to see the girls in different price ranges. They come in groups and introduce themselves. They were exceptionally pretty and sexy girls. In all price ranges they were real model material. But the price was sky high. I thought I was being scammed, but it is really expensive for most people. When you get to know a girl, you can take the girl you like to your hotel next time. The minimum time was 3 hours. This is more than I need. But usually you have to do the action in the room you choose. Also no short time option. I would ike to have direct contact with the girls I saw presented. They probably get paid little compared to the management.
Sacrificing a little money to try out the ones you like can be worthwhile.
I saw few guests and there are probably many nights even the nice girls don't make money. They could do better with direct deals with people like us.
There are many karaoke bars. Let's go more in depth guys. I'm going back in January and want to do better studies.
Why not just ask mate LOL. ? On the ground now, anything I can do happy to scoop out. The KTV might exist but will be targeting Chinese customers (good I miss the old days there). Should I find anything will report!
I tried asking earlier but no response. Is there really not a single strip club in Jakarta?
I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.
If one more person confirms then they changing rules.
Maybe next time prices will go up soon?
I've just returned from Classic T2 (Sunday eve) after an uncomfortable experience. I was happily banging one of my favourites there, when the room phone started ringing after literally just 30 minutes. I carried on as normal, and after 7-8 mins later, the phone rang and there was banging on the door, with someone telling us that our time was up. It was literally just 40 minutes at this stage.
I tipped the girl, apologized and left the room to talk to the receptionist. The receptionist was being a complete ***** and refused to give me straight answers (we were using Google Translate). I explained that I've been coming here for 4 months, and normally the phone rings after 45 minutes and we are supposed to get almost 1 hour. After 5 minutes of this of back and forth, another English speaking punter leaving the area commented to me that he got a knock on the door much earlier than expected as well. After a few more minutes, I realized that nothing will be done here, so I went upstairs and found the mami. I explained to her the situation. She was as wishy-washy as the receptionist. When I pushed her, and asked to speak to the manager, she took me to the billiard tables and asked me to wait near there, and she disappeared. After a few minutes, I realized that she's just bullshitting me, and I walk to the cashiers desk where you settle the bill. (This is why I never tip the mamis. When you need some sort of problem fixing, they don't give a shit.) A Google Translate convo with the cashier resulted in her saying that the manager is on holiday. So, I asked who's in charge, and she fobbed me off to the guy who stands at the exit door, making sure that no one leaves with their wrist band on. I once again explained the situation. He was polite and took me to a civilian looking buy sitting on one of the round tables. This guy had normal clothes on, no name badge, no indication that he was a customer or a manager. He spoke basic English and said that since yesterday (Saturday), the timings have been reduced. You now get 45 minutes in the room, and the phone is rung after 30 minutes.
I was sceptical about this guy being in any sort of managerial capacity. But I had gotten fed up with the whole thing by now and thanked him and left.
So, my question, gentlemen. Have any of you been to Classic this weekend, and how much time did you get there?
Most KTV girls price much higher.
If you look KTV Google reviews.
Only male reviews then its plus service.
If you see female reviews about songs etc then its family KTV only songs??
You will see these in big malls, so no plus service?
Why not just ask mate LOL. ? On the ground now, anything I can do happy to scoop out. The KTV might exist but will be targeting Chinese customers (good I miss the old days there). Should I find anything will report!
I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.
If one more person confirms then they changing rules.
Maybe next time prices will go up soon?1 year ago I had 2 girls and the phone rang not even 1 hour.
Muzungufotsy
09-29-25, 05:40
Lokasari: echoes a previous posters experience. Wonky eyed papasan points to 6 girls. Who weren't that great. Picked one papasan says 500 including room I say no I turn around he says ok 400 including everything. Paid the 110 k for hotel he demands another 100 k from me. Get to room the girls attitude changed for the worse. 2 sec blow job and complained the whole time. I will never repeat.
Bongkaran tanah Abang: saw this area on YouTube it's an underpass next to a station walked along checked out each lady but they are too old all old aunties..You actually overpaid by paying 400 and you got shit service anyway.
I told many times Lokasari is useless but people don't listen.
As for Classic if the girl asks for BJ with condom she s out right away. No negotiation here. And 200 k for tip is way too much.
People complain but they are responsible for their own mistakes.
And now less time allowed in the room. Wonderful.
Hung Man 1808
09-29-25, 06:43
I tried asking earlier but no response. Is there really not a single strip club in Jakarta?Nope. No. Nada. Tidak.
FernandoAlonso
09-29-25, 07:02
I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.
If one more person confirms then they changing rules.
Maybe next time prices will go up soon?Yes, it seems to be like that now. As early as 30 minutes and as late as 45. Quite aggressively, knocking on the door, multiple calls. Barely time to shower. It is like a train station there and most of the rooms are occupied when I go through there. Still, it is really bad customer service and with the tipping, insisting on covered everything it seems the good times are over. I blame the finish in 10 minutes customers. Prices have not increased there but e. G. In Emporium. So you know what is coming.
FernandoAlonso
09-29-25, 07:05
In Jakarta for the first time, so far enjoying classic. But was tempted to try the upscale options and as it was nearby chose Emporium. Easy enough to find, turn right at the reception. Left is the hotel. They put your phone in a stupid bag, as mine is in a case with a front making it completely unusable. Oh well. Second shock, almost no girls. I asked whether I am too early and if later more would be available but no. 20 girls today. For the interested they open at 2 pm and close at 1 am, so I was told. New pricing goes as follows: entrance fee 300 k (but most likely only applied if you do not pick a girl). 3 tiers of girls now: green for 900 k, red for 1550 k and black for 2050 k. They wear dresses in these colours. I saw 2 greens and 3 blacks, the rest was red. I found the greens more beautiful than the blacks, but the latter were chatty, the former disinterested otherwise would have picked one that was from the body perfect. But if a girl looks away bored she rarely is a winner. I got a tall, thin lady with bubbly personality called Lexi who did not disappoint. You get 30 minutes playing in the hot pool (or the ice cold one if that is your thing) but it was mainly light massage and actually not really erotic. You loose a lot of time when either you or her are showering, changing or running through the place. Which is actually very clean and quite nice hardware wise. But I rather have a girl rock my world in a dump then getting bored in luxury. Just my view. Lexi started with a really nice massage and tried some oily body sliding, a discipline in which she will not qualify for the olympics but it was a nice starter. So I prepared her with some manual and oral stimulation until she was dripping wet and came (or not, felt genuine but we all know how good woman can fake it). On with the rubber and fun was had, she really put in effort and after a while allowed wild kissing. We used the full hour and I was out after exactly 90 minutes. I paid 1700 k which included a 150 k tip she asked for with these stupid tip sheets which I could not read. She seemed ok with it. If my math is correct this means no 300 k fee. It was a good session and she was way more experienced and effort putting in than the classic girls I tested so far but price wise I get much better value at the same cost in Bangkok e. G. In Hunnybunny or even Mango (if they manage to fix the Whirlpool there). There were e other guests that I saw in my time there. Not sure if that and the lack of girls mean bad business? Return unlikely for me, the girls are not that stunning, looking forward to see if 1001 is really on another level. Went to T5 afterwards and easily found all I needed.
Yes, it seems to be like that now. As early as 30 minutes and as late as 45. Quite aggressively, knocking on the door, multiple calls. Barely time to shower. It is like a train station there and most of the rooms are occupied when I go through there. Still, it is really bad customer service and with the tipping, insisting on covered everything it seems the good times are over. I blame the finish in 10 minutes customers. Prices have not increased there but e. G. In Emporium. So you know what is coming.T5 is still allowing 1 hour & 90 min. Only T2 has reduced its timings.
Following up the post below. I've found the line-up underwhelming. They have taller girls, which is a good thing, but they're not at all tall gazelles. They're broad-shouldered sturdy girls with big heads. Not at all my cup of tea.
In my latest session the girl in the room said BJ must be covered as per house rules (really?). I was allowed to lick her pussy but whenever my tongue wandered to her butthole she cringed and withdrew. In the end what I was getting was the same as I get maybe one time out of 15 at Classic's, only for five times the money.
SourSaviour
09-29-25, 09:17
At almost all the Kota Indah bars, take out is an option for 2 vouchers and you get 3 hours / 2 shots back in the comfort of your room. Only extra usually is gojek fare back to Kota Indah for the girl after 3 hours. Some girls are amenable to BBFS but tips expected seem to be getting higher overall in Jakarta.
All this exposure online seems to have be rising the prices up overall, and reducing the time (like classic) so enjoy Jakarta while you can before it goes the way of Thailand.
Emporium, 1001, Travel, Classic, Kota Indah bars, etc are set up as all-inclusive operations with the general expectation that services will be provided on-site. The girls are not freelancers. I have seen reports that girls can be brought out of some establishments by purchasing multiple tickets, which just means that you pay for multiple sessions for the privilege of takeout. My intuition is that many girls would prefer on-site for the safety and straightforwardness of the transaction, but you can explore.
Unfortunately the reliable and inexpensive freelance joints (eg TC in the North and Blok M bars in the South) are long gone. If you want girls back at your crib, there are mixed reports of using MiChat app or Lokasari girls. Seems to be either heaven or hell depending on the report. Read back and you will see the experiences. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Asian Rain
09-29-25, 09:20
Yes, it seems to be like that now. As early as 30 minutes and as late as 45. Quite aggressively, knocking on the door, multiple calls. Barely time to shower. It is like a train station there and most of the rooms are occupied when I go through there. Still, it is really bad customer service and with the tipping, insisting on covered everything it seems the good times are over. I blame the finish in 10 minutes customers. Prices have not increased there but e. G. In Emporium. So you know what is coming.Always some external entity to blame. Let's get real. The girls (and mamis) at Classic will be rejoicing this as a win win win win. One, the girls won't have to lie there taking a tedious 30-40 minute pounding from guys who like to pound every minute possible out of thier USD22 session. Two, the girls won't see any reduction from thier mainstay "finish in 10 minutes" clientele (aka Asians). Three, despite lots of screeching, there will be negligible reduction in the let-me-speak-to-the-manager bules as they have little alternative to Classic (and since Classic and Travel have the same supposed ownership, entirely possible that this practice will extend there soon enough). Four, the popular girls and mamis will get more income by turning over more tricks as mami can point the laser again quickly for the next customer. Peversely, this might actually attract better talent to Classic as the time limit (sadly) favors the house over the punter. Don't think that the owners and managers didn't think carefully about the net impact to their business from this change. In the end, suppose some will just need to learn to pick up the pace. Cepat cepat! Enjoy Jakarta, AR.
Peversely, this might actually attract better talent to Classic as the time limit (sadly) favors the house over the punter. Don't think that the owners and managers didn't think carefully about the net impact to their business from this change. In the end, suppose some will just need to learn to pick up the pace. Cepat cepat! Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Not sure how the quality of the girls will increase as a result of reducing the time-in-the-room.
Anyway, it seems that the time reduction from 1 hour to 40 minutes (45?) is a real thing and not just what I was told when I pushed the issue. My main point of concern is that the mongers are not told this when they book a girl. The mami can easily say "New times. You now get 40 minutes", or the room boy, who leads you to the room with the girl, can say the same. This would allow better planning for the monger on how long he wants to kiss / cuddle, and change positions etc. Instead, I had the phone ring loudly and unexpectedly, causing disruption and losing focus, just when I was thrusting into a lovely, warm vagina. And the banging on the door is not conducive to a good finish. First World Problems, I know.
As for what difference the reduced timings will make. The owners benefit, the mami's benefit, the girls benefit. Everyone fucking benefits except the punter. For the weekend party-goers who fly in from Singapore etc and bang for 2 nights and return home, there's not much they can do about these changes. But for longer term guys like me, who are here for months, I can see Classic becoming a showroom. I'll try new girls, and the ones who give great service will become my private companions on their days off. And I'll probably spend more time in KI. As someone who's been going to Classic maybe 4-5 times a week, this will probably come down to 2-3 times now.
Always some external entity to blame. Let's get real. The girls (and mamis) at Classic will be rejoicing this as a win win win win. One, the girls won't have to lie there taking a tedious 30-40 minute pounding from guys who like to pound every minute possible out of thier USD22 session. Two, the girls won't see any reduction from thier mainstay "finish in 10 minutes" clientele (aka Asians). Three, despite lots of screeching, there will be negligible reduction in the let-me-speak-to-the-manager bules as they have little alternative to Classic (and since Classic and Travel have the same supposed ownership, entirely possible that this practice will extend there soon enough). Four, the popular girls and mamis will get more income by turning over more tricks as mami can point the laser again quickly for the next customer. Peversely, this might actually attract better talent to Classic as the time limit (sadly) favors the house over the punter. Don't think that the owners and managers didn't think carefully about the net impact to their business from this change. In the end, suppose some will just need to learn to pick up the pace. Cepat cepat! Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Maybe, but there is a limit to how much you can reduce the time, until people stop going. 40-45 minutes, including showers, is what I usually use if everything is smooth sailing with the girl. At 40 minutes, it becomes an unpleasant rush. Not what I want at all.
I've used the full 90 minutes with two girls almost every time (I need that time to recharge for the second shot). With only 60 minutes, taking two girls will no longer be very interesting to me.
40 minutes is an option I never choose in e.g. Thailand, where most shops offer it at a discount, simply because I don't want to feel I need to hurry, even if I usually finish within 40 minutes.
Hope this change, if true, fails hard and fast. Not holding out much hope for that though, as it would require a lot of punters to complain and stop coming.
Giovanni Volo
09-29-25, 16:05
I perfectly agree.
And it is not just 45 minutes, but also ear a ring after 30 minutes, than, after shower, mean just 20 minutes with girl on bed.
I hope they be back to not lost clients.
I already have a ticket to came in Jakarta next Summer (and a way back from Bangkok), but I will short my time here if the time remain this ones.
Jakarta is a ugly town, if sex became bad goodbye forever.
Price can be still good, but to go there to run 30 minutes, no.
Then when the phone ring I imagine the girl would reply. So a stop too. What will became the action?
Maybe, but there is a limit to how much you can reduce the time, until people stop going. 40-45 minutes, including showers, is what I usually use if everything is smooth sailing with the girl. At 40 minutes, it becomes an unpleasant rush. Not what I want at all.
I've used the full 90 minutes with two girls almost every time (I need that time to recharge for the second shot). With only 60 minutes, taking two girls will no longer be very interesting to me.
40 minutes is an option I never choose in e.g. Thailand, where most shops offer it at a discount, simply because I don't want to feel I need to hurry, even if I usually finish within 40 minutes.
Hope this change, if true, fails hard and fast. Not holding out much hope for that though, as it would require a lot of punters to complain and stop coming.
FernandoAlonso
09-29-25, 17:58
T5 is still allowing 1 hour & 90 min. Only T2 has reduced its timings.I was there twice the last days and they cut me short both times. T5. Maybe it was bad timing and all rooms were full but it was 45 (even less), not 60. Maybe I was just unlucky. T2 today told me before entering the room 45 minutes and called after 35. Really annoying. And I take my watch with me and check.
1 year ago I had 2 girls and the phone rang not even 1 hour.Sometimes it happens by mistake I think. Happened to me once, but showed the girls the timer on my phone, and said to tell them it should be 90 minutes. Didn't have any problems.
FernandoAlonso
09-29-25, 18:17
Trying all the venues here so tonight it was MiChat after a very satisfying session at T2 (while interrupted prematurely after about 35 minutes to the annoyance of both of us). MiChat is a complete message overflow, as soon as you set it up you get bombarded with very clear messages and friend requests. (On a side note on my phone I can only make pictures if I grant the app full camera and microphone access. Full meaning at all times even when the app is closed). Lots of not very attractive ladies and lots of photoshop. Price quotes ridiculous, most 800 k to a million.
One quoted 500 k and pictures seemed legit. But she refused to come to my place, it had to be her Hotel Antares. It was nearby so I strolled over. Constant messages where are you. Send me a picture. And after I arrived it took a long time until she reacted and told me the floor. And that is when things got really odd. She insisted to use the elevator but just before I could go to it the receptionist took it and went to her floor. So I took the stairs and encountered a bunch of young guys in the staircase just before her floor doing whatever. They were friendly but it was midnight and at that time I decided to cut my losses and retreated. The MiChat lady got mad at me claiming to know nothing but still refuses to come to my place.
And guess what, just got another friend request claiming 300 k for 2 shots. Guess where she stays. Correct Hotel Antara.
I might be overreacting and this can all be a coincidence. But better safe than sorry.
Trying all the venues here so tonight it was MiChat after a very satisfying session at T2 (while interrupted prematurely after about 35 minutes to the annoyance of both of us). MiChat is a complete message overflow, as soon as you set it up you get bombarded with very clear messages and friend requests. (On a side note on my phone I can only make pictures if I grant the app full camera and microphone access. Full meaning at all times even when the app is closed). Lots of not very attractive ladies and lots of photoshop. Price quotes ridiculous, most 800 k to a million.
One quoted 500 k and pictures seemed legit. But she refused to come to my place, it had to be her Hotel Antares. It was nearby so I strolled over. Constant messages where are you. Send me a picture. And after I arrived it took a long time until she reacted and told me the floor. And that is when things got really odd. She insisted to use the elevator but just before I could go to it the receptionist took it and went to her floor. So I took the stairs and encountered a bunch of young guys in the staircase just before her floor doing whatever. They were friendly but it was midnight and at that time I decided to cut my losses and retreated. The MiChat lady got mad at me claiming to know nothing but still refuses to come to my place.
And guess what, just got another friend request claiming 300 k for 2 shots. Guess where she stays. Correct Hotel Antara.
I might be overreacting and this can all be a coincidence. But better safe than sorry.I've had a bunch of those too, from a couple of different hotels. I never tried, but don't think they are more of a scam than anything else on michat. One of the girls was funnily enough even staying at the same hotel as I (Holiday Inn, a somewhat pricey, for Jakarta, hotel). For that one I was tempted, just to see, but her price was double of what I was interested in paying and she / her admin refused to come down on price. I thought it would be funny if I came down to meet her in the lobby in my hotel slippers.
I would expect the usual very photoshopped, or bait and switch, photos, but wouldn't worry about much else, unless things look particularly dodgy.
I'm not using michat / online crap because I want to go out somewhere though (if I want to go out to find a girl, I will just go to Classic or KI), so never bothered going to their hotel. I usually answered no, that they have to come to me. One or two agreed, but after video call to verify, I was no longer interested. Some were obviously some type of mini-Classic with several girls.
Still, trust your gut, and better safe than sorry as you say.
Suggest you counter offer and ask them to come to you instead, even if they list a hotel, as some may accept.
LetMeIn6969
09-30-25, 02:08
Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.
DiverOyster
09-30-25, 03:42
Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.Are there girls in Maxwell Hotel? It looks like a regular hotel.
LetMeIn6969
09-30-25, 06:32
Are there girls in Maxwell Hotel? It looks like a regular hotel.Yes, it's called El Centro spa but you need a QR code to get in. I don't get why they do it that way. If you don't have the QR code, the security guy won't let you in the elevator. The place was empty when I went, around 7 pm.
FernandoAlonso
09-30-25, 08:01
Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.Let me see if I can find my receipts but I am sure I paid 1,7 mil (1,681 or so) wich was 1,55 for the red dress girl and 150 k rip on the tip sheet. Seems inconsistent but agree, way overpriced.
I can confirm that T5 has also reduced it's timing from 1 hour to 45 min (or maybe 40 min, as I got different answers). I asked the Mami, and also the room boy, and both confirmed the reduction in time. The room phone rang after 35 minutes today. So, basically, whether you're in T2 or T5, expect the room phone to ring at either 30 mins or 35 minutes.
Since, the before / after showering takes the same time as before, this reduction in time is coming straight from the 'intimate' part of the session. As a result, I certainly felt a sense of urgency today.
There you have it.
Yes, it's called El Centro spa but you need a QR code to get in. I don't get why they do it that way. If you don't have the QR code, the security guy won't let you in the elevator. The place was empty when I went, around 7 pm.So when would be a better time to go there, earlier or later?
Banana Boi
09-30-25, 21:10
When you guys book 3 hour sessions at Classic do you now get 2 HR 40 minute sessions or 2 hour sessions (3 x 40 minutes)?
Are those being short changed on time known regulars by the mamasans shorting you?
Rocketeer666
10-01-25, 00:19
Where is KI mate?
Not sure how the quality of the girls will increase as a result of reducing the time-in-the-room.
Anyway, it seems that the time reduction from 1 hour to 40 minutes (45?) is a real thing and not just what I was told when I pushed the issue. My main point of concern is that the mongers are not told this when they book a girl. The mami can easily say "New times. You now get 40 minutes", or the room boy, who leads you to the room with the girl, can say the same. This would allow better planning for the monger on how long he wants to kiss / cuddle, and change positions etc. Instead, I had the phone ring loudly and unexpectedly, causing disruption and losing focus, just when I was thrusting into a lovely, warm vagina. And the banging on the door is not conducive to a good finish. First World Problems, I know.
As for what difference the reduced timings will make. The owners benefit, the mami's benefit, the girls benefit. Everyone fucking benefits except the punter. For the weekend party-goers who fly in from Singapore etc and bang for 2 nights and return home, there's not much they can do about these changes. But for longer term guys like me, who are here for months, I can see Classic becoming a showroom. I'll try new girls, and the ones who give great service will become my private companions on their days off. And I'll probably spend more time in KI. As someone who's been going to Classic maybe 4-5 times a week, this will probably come down to 2-3 times now.
FernandoAlonso
10-01-25, 05:50
When you guys book 3 hour sessions at Classic do you now get 2 HR 40 minute sessions or 2 hour sessions (3 x 40 minutes)?
Are those being short changed on time known regulars by the mamasans shorting you?I believe it has nothing to do with the mamas but the "owner" of the infrastructure aka the rooms. I have seen T5 girls use sometimes 3rd or 4th level rooms (ironically labelled Terminal 4) and T2 Girls using first level or 4th level rooms. As there is also an 90 k fee for the room on your bill so I would assume these are only affiliated but not necessarily the same operations. And you will get 3 times 40 minutes of course only. BTW take out is 7 vouchers, so a whopping 2,55 mil for the night but they will start molest you as soon as 6 am to let the girl go by calling or texting her. So absolutely not worth it. And it seems some (or most?) of the girls also have another owner besides the mama. Not a good or fair system IMHO.
I ventured out to Citibung and stayed at Swiss-belinn Citibung hotel you need transport to go anywhere. Trying to cross an always busy highway is dangerous especially when it's dark.
Plenty of indomaret around if you can cross the road.
Tenda biru is a couple of streets with karaoke type shops with music and girls sitting outside hard to say how many girls I wasn't there to count maybe 30- 50. Rooms are upstairs. Price is 200 k.
Places open at 8 some are 9 most of the girls had the same type of look so hard to choose. All had uniforms.
Saw only 1 other customer walking about.
Would I recommend this place no because nothing else to do here and have to deal with a majorly busy road safety is of concern with men loitering around waiting for what?
If you want to check it out I've attached a map. If you can locate Ramayana then the entrance is directly opposite on the other side of the road. Here a motorcycle taxi will go through a maze like area until you see the bars with bright colours and lights and hear the music.
Just visited Emporium last night, I concur that it's expensive now. I was charged an entrance and facility fees even when I took 2 girls. I also visited Maxwell hotel and it was cheaper, the standard room was bigger and they have a TV. I guess it's a goodbye to emporium eventhough I like the people there especially papi David.I think they just increase the price a little bit. If you take out the drinks on your bill, it is just 1.5 jt per person. What confused me is they priced the top tier more expensive than 1001. Tbh 1001 has way better lu except the pool time.
HappyFarang
10-01-25, 15:32
After 11 days of nothing I decided to try Kimochi Mabes. Will report on it together with my next adventure tomorrow.
In the meantime I have two questions:
1) in Orchardz Spa are tips included?
2) If you get the phone number of a Classic girl, how much would you pay her to come to your place?
How much time included for door knock.
Maybe better go Saturday higher volume of people?
Google maps can find direct link.
I ventured out to Citibung and stayed at Swiss-belinn Citibung hotel you need transport to go anywhere. Trying to cross an always busy highway is dangerous especially when it's dark.
Plenty of indomaret around if you can cross the road.
Tenda biru is a couple of streets with karaoke type shops with music and girls sitting outside hard to say how many girls I wasn't there to count maybe 30- 50. Rooms are upstairs. Price is 200 k.
Places open at 8 some are 9 most of the girls had the same type of look so hard to choose. All had uniforms.
Saw only 1 other customer walking about.
Would I recommend this place no because nothing else to do here and have to deal with a majorly busy road safety is of concern with men loitering around waiting for what?
If you want to check it out I've attached a map. If you can locate Ramayana then the entrance is directly opposite on the other side of the road. Here a motorcycle taxi will go through a maze like area until you see the bars with bright colours and lights and hear the music.
How much time included for door knock.
Maybe better go Saturday higher volume of people?
Google maps can find direct link.No idea I don't require a lot of time it's possibly 30 mins.
But only 200 k and everyone seemed friendly and receptive to Bule compared to my next report in Cikarang.
So I'm comparing this report to my previous one in Citibung.
Ventured out set grab to take me to Nagoya cafe on the map. Driving along the main road I noticed lone girls On both sides waiting for customers on the opposite side of the water from where the bars are so had the grab rider do a few slow passes back and forward they seemed ok but wanted to check out where the bars are. Lone workers are marked with red arrows. Then we crossed the bridge at the top arrow and drove back the way we came but on other side of the river where we could see groups of girls sitting they are all spread out a long stretch of road.
This is where it gets different to Citibung. I would say more expensive here wanting 400 most of the girls didn't want to go with Bule me they looked away. I felt unwelcome there and some of them sounded like they were cursing me to go away. There were a couple of groups who were welcoming so not all like that. The going rate here was 300-400 I think they were increasing the price. Negotiated 1 girl for 300 as they wanted 400 then afterwards they all got aggressive demanding another 100 and asking driver what hotel I stayed at I managed to stop Him talking. I persuaded him to drive off he was hesitant to leave. So I reckon things can get aggressive quickly. Way more girls here than Citibung plus the girls on the main road on other side of the water. Saw 1 Japanese tourist he came up to me and stood over the girl I asked to go with she chose him ok she was hesitant because of Bule size.
I think after everything I've experienced it's better to stick to the clubs it's a much safer environment.
Anyway if you want to explore it yourself I've attached a map.
Just to add some of the papasans seemed welcoming smiling and asking me to choose a girl but their girs looked disinterested.
That was my first experience of being unwelcomed apart from the furthest sofa in classic next to the entrance to go downstairs that spfa looked quiet last time I was in.
NoGermaphobe
10-01-25, 18:16
The price here is 200 K. Same as Cibitung. You were definitely up-charged.
Friendliness varied greatly between different areas and bars.
The biggest drawback here was time. Ladies will point to their wrist to signal "hurry up and finish, time is up" after like 5 minutes.
So I'm comparing this report to my previous one in Citibung.
Ventured out set grab to take me to Nagoya cafe on the map. Driving along the main road I noticed lone girls On both sides waiting for customers on the opposite side of the water from where the bars are so had the grab rider do a few slow passes back and forward they seemed ok but wanted to check out where the bars are. Lone workers are marked with red arrows. Then we crossed the bridge at the top arrow and drove back the way we came but on other side of the river where we could see groups of girls sitting they are all spread out a long stretch of road.
This is where it gets different to Citibung. I would say more expensive here wanting 400 most of the girls didn't want to go with Bule me they looked away. I felt unwelcome there and some of them sounded like they were cursing me to go away. There were a couple of groups who were welcoming so not all like that. The going rate here was 300-400 I think they were increasing the price. Negotiated 1 girl for 300 as they wanted 400 then afterwards they all got aggressive demanding another 100 and asking driver what hotel I stayed at I managed to stop Him talking. I persuaded him to drive off he was hesitant to leave. So I reckon things can get aggressive quickly. Way more girls here than Citibung plus the girls on the main road on other side of the water. Saw 1 Japanese tourist he came up to me and stood over the girl I asked to go with she chose him ok she was hesitant because of Bule size.
I think after everything I've experienced it's better to stick to the clubs it's a much safer environment.
Anyway if you want to explore it yourself I've attached a map.
Just to add some of the papasans seemed welcoming but their girls werent interested.
Yea I don't like how quickly they can change and become aggressive. This isn't an area for us. And I agree friendliness varied from one group to the next.
The price here is 200 K. Same as Cibitung. You were definitely up-charged.
I had similar experiences to you. Friendliness varied greatly between different areas and bars.
The biggest drawback here was time. I had ladies pointing to their wrist to signal "hurry up and finish, time is up" after like 5 minutes.Have you experienced Citibung? If so how did you find that for you?
NoGermaphobe
10-01-25, 19:24
Haven't been. These low end places don't really appeal to me. Yes, it is half price compared to the usual places.
But it is also a filthy plywood box with cum stained, never changed sheets and a thin mattress, no running water, pounding music and hot with sometimes a fan. It's a quick pump and dump. But only if folks can cum quickly in that environment.
It's a different experience for sure. But for just 200 K more, you get a much better experience, service, and facilities in the usual places.
Have you experienced Citibung? If so how did you find that for you?
I made a friend with a friendly Indonesian man he offered to meet me at Kota Indah. He wanted to go to Royale next to Laras Ayu. I convinced him to try Laras. The day before I went here alone so I came back the next day with him. He's a good guy in his 30's speaks English. I asked for the Indonesian experience to get girls to sit with us and drinks.
He’s a funny guy he starts dancing whilst sitting and it breaks the ice and he girls start dancing and smiling I can’t dance like him he’s a big guy and shrugs his shoulders and moves his arms about bopping. The girls react and start pointing to the ceiling with their hands dancing.
Girls would jokingly point to him and say to me this is your translator.
In laras Ayu He asked the mami to bring a line up and I chose a girl to sit with me we order her a drink and not even 10 minutes mami was over wanted to know if I was taking her upstairs the place was dead. After we left he told me it was bad service in there the mami was rude and there were Chinese / indo middle age regulars sitting at the bar playing Chinese games with a cup and dice they acted like they own the place sitting around laughing and shouting. He told me they were rude and wasn't a good place to visit. I then told him the previous day the same ones were drunk and came Into the toilet to piss and looked at me and kept shouting fuck you over and over I didn't react. He also said that mami cut my time short to sit with the girl. He said he knows the mami in Royale and its much better service.
Sure enough we go there we get line up and we get a girl each and drinks ordered no issue with sitting with the girls I think after 30 minutes she asked if we wanted to take the girls upstairs. Unfortunately the girl didn't perform I should have read the body language better she went a bit cold compared to the girl from laras Ayu we discussed he said she was a new girl inexperienced. Anyway thought you might be interested to know the story.
I would absolutely hate to hear the telephone ring while I'm still fucking. With the new 30 minute mark this would frequently happen in my case. I think I will have no other choice than to buy two tickets at once. Has somebody done this already and does it work seamlessly? Or do I have to show the double ticket to the staff downstairs and remind them five times not to call me too early?
NoGermaphobe
10-01-25, 23:05
If you buy two vouchers, the lady gets two vouchers to hand to the cleaning person who checks your wrist number and vouchers. You don't need to remind them, unless you want to or feel the need to do so. You should get your double time. I've booked double vouchers previously and they know.
This was probably their intention all along. It's basically a way to double prices without actually increasing the price. So Classic is now basically 100% more expensive for a certain amount of customers that may need to book the additional time.
Will be interesting to see if this model stays at Classic or spreads to other venues. I imagine we are seeing the enshittification of Jakarta now. It took a while, longer that most other destinations, but it's here now. Jakarta's gotten too popular with sex tourists from a variety of countries. I've paid very close attention my last few visits. And the locals definitely don't make up the vast majority of customers at Classic now. It's not a locals oriented place like it use to be. Sure. The locals still go there. But there are many, many foreigners there now as well. I think it will be drip, drip, drip now and things will only continue to decline.
This bar business is very much like the airlines. Once one business makes a change, they all make it once someone takes the plunge and gets away with it.
I would absolutely hate to hear the telephone ring while I'm still fucking. With the new 30 minute mark this would frequently happen in my case. I think I will have no other choice than to buy two tickets at once. Has somebody done this already and does it work seamlessly? Or do I have to show the double ticket to the staff downstairs and remind them five times not to call me too early?
50%? For me it will be 100% more expensive.
Actually, I would love to have the option to extend my time once I’m already in the room. It sucks to pay double for a girl that turns out to be a dud. Most of the time I recognise a dud within the first 5 to 10 minutes. If a girl kisses well, the rest of the session is usually okay too. Can I somehow get more time once in the room?
NoGermaphobe
10-01-25, 23:14
Thanks and edited. Math was never my strong suit.
You should be able to extend the time once in the room. I don't remember the exact mechanics of it. But I think I've done it before. I can't remember if you have to stop and pay there, which would be annoying. Or she can call to let them know and you can pay after. But the option should be available. Just tell the lady in the room you want another session. They'll figure it out from there.
Who knows with Classic these days though? Recently they seem to be very mercenary about getting the money beforehand. But it really shouldn't be a problem to extend the session. And they are probably expecting this or have a policy for it based on the time reduction.
50%? For me it will be 100% more expensive.
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You should be able to extend the time once in the room. I don't remember the exact mechanics of it. But I think I've done it before. I can't remember if you have to stop and pay there, which would be annoying. Or she can call to let them know and you can pay after. But the option should be available. Just tell the lady in the room you want another session. They'll figure it out from there.
...Now I remember, on my last visit to Classic this month, one mamasan prompted me to book "2 hours". I had her repeat because I'd known mamasans to push for "2 girls", never for "2 hours".
50%? For me it will be 100% more expensive.
Actually, I would love to have the option to extend my time once Im already in the room. It sucks to pay double for a girl that turns out to be a dud. Most of the time I recognise a dud within the first 5 to 10 minutes. If a girl kisses well, the rest of the session is usually okay too. Can I somehow get more time once in the room?I'm sure you can. Give the money to the girl. She'll summon one of the guys waiting outside the room. It will cause toing and froing and knocking on the door again to ckeck and reckeck though.
HappyFarang
10-02-25, 08:57
Not so discreet entrance from a side road, I entered into a small reception room where a woman gave me a number. Went through a second door (their socials, WA Telegram etc on the door of which I took a picture) and I was in a larger area where the girls are sitting on sofas on two sides of the room. There were three or four people behind the counter. A woman showed me the menu. The prices were listed in a previous report and as far as I can remember they are the same with a minor difference: it's 400 k for 45 minutes of just sex. The other number I can confirm is 560 k for 90 minutes of massage + sex, which is called paket be, but this DOESN'T INCLUDE kissing (later on that). Kissing only with paket see.
The girls were fat or / and unattractive. There was only one girl who was viable, chubby, maybe a 6 at most, so I picked her. I would normally never pick a girl who is not slim or "normal" but I had no choice.
The rooms are upstairs, very large compared with Classic, I think they are called "VIP rooms". A huge bed, a decent shower but don't get the water in your mouth, it's worse than sea water, very salty. Shower first, the girl leaves and showers in a separate room, then 45 minutes of "massage" with oil. Very poor, it felt like a waste of time. I turn over, more massage, then she asks me if I want to have sex, but first she wants to have water, and asks me if I also want to have water. I should have said no: one bottle costs 20 k, she ordered two bottles so 40 k! I know it's not a lot, but I live here, this is not a short holiday for me, and paying 20 k for something that costs 2 k or less pissed me off but it was only my fault.
This is when I ask for kissing and she says that it's not included in paket be. No point ever returning here then, FK is the foundation of a good encounter. The sex was okay, she was a sweet girl so I kept my spirits high. She seemed uncomfortable during sex. This is not the first time, I had one girl before (one of the six I've seen so far) who refused to be on top because I was "too long". I am the kind of man who wants to see the girl enjoy herself, so this sucks. So far 4 girls seemed to be perfectly fine with my size, one refused the position, and two had this expression of pain on their faces during sex.
The water came at the very end, I finished my bottle as I was thirsty. Showered in the room, she showered in a different room and returned, then we chatted a bit.
Tips are included so I didn't tip. I knew this only because it was mentioned by Zippos in his report. We went downstairs, I said goodbye, she was sweet till the end and couldn't fault her in that sense. She gave good service within the limits of her abilities.
I paid 600 k in the small entrance reception, 560 k + 40 k for the water.
I would return only if the 400 k plan includes FK and if there is a girl that I find attractive. This could be easily verified with WA or Telegram.
If you buy two vouchers, the lady gets two vouchers to hand to the cleaning person who checks your wrist number and vouchers. You don't need to remind them, unless you want to or feel the need to do so. You should get your double time. I've booked double vouchers previously and they know.
This was probably their intention all along. It's basically a way to double prices without actually increasing the price. So Classic is now basically 100% more expensive for a certain amount of customers that may need to book the additional time.
Will be interesting to see if this model stays at Classic or spreads to other venues. I imagine we are seeing the enshittification of Jakarta now. It took a while, longer that most other destinations, but it's here now. Jakarta's gotten too popular with sex tourists from a variety of countries. I've paid very close attention my last few visits. And the locals definitely don't make up the vast majority of customers at Classic now. It's not a locals oriented place like it use to be. Sure. The locals still go there. But there are many, many foreigners there now as well. I think it will be drip, drip, drip now and things will only continue to decline.
This bar business is very much like the airlines. Once one business makes a change, they all make it once someone takes the plunge and gets away with it.Sucks. It would be almost funny to take two girls then, just so you have at least 60 minutes as before then, for, what is it, around 140 k extra? Just let your target girl choose whatever friend she wants, fuck your target girl, and ignore the other girl.
Only problem, except for probably some perceived rudeness once it becomes obvious you have no interest in the other girl, is that it will be more difficult to get a decent session with the target girl as she will be shy about doing some things in front of the third wheel. Guess you can't drop off the third wheel on the way to the room either.
But was tempted to try the upscale options and as it was nearby chose Emporium. Return unlikely for me, the girls are not that stunning, looking forward to see if 1001 is really on another level. Went to T5 afterwards and easily found all I needed.Agreed. Emporium is just too expensive now and not worth going. They actually have the same boss as 1001. Emporium is the reject shop for 1001. I had better service in the South Jakarta with much lower price and prettier, younger girls.
Visited before 5:30 didn't see many beauties. Lots on the sofa. It was quiet no music. Then at 5:30 pm I heard a robotic voice "welcome to classic" then boom the techno music started it was actually good it made me smile.
Picked a girl I asked if she gave good service confirmed tip for you know what. Then in the room she said no kissing and didn't want the tip but ok to BJ without condom. I was thinking do I quit on her I've just spent 400 k.
I decided to continue but wasn't enjoyable. She didn't ask for tip so that was a small bonus hahaha.
Decided to make amends chose another one and got a very good service this so the one I fished 2 time with her. But before her mami told me to wait there was no rooms I had to wait at least 20 minutes possibly 30 minutes until she brought the condom and receipt for downstairs. I pointed to the sign downstairs reception in the banging area to The workers said it was 1 hour so I put it to the test. I managed to bang a girl twice which is my first time in classic doing this. I waited and waited and waited and waited then 50 minutes on the button phone and knock on door at same time.
I took photo of the sign as now it's 2 girls 60 minutes. They confirmed that with me. Later I saw plenty of beauties when I came back up but I was all used up emptied my sack 3 times in 90 minutes hahaha.
I wish I could have tried them out but I had to leave due to empty balls and empty stomach.
So first time banging twice in the space of an hour. First time I've not been able to go to the rooms downstairs due to availability even though the sofas were plenty full.
Also dancers came on stage with see through fishnet body stockings could see the tits clearly around 7:30 pm.
Sucks. It would be almost funny to take two girls then, just so you have at least 60 minutes as before then, for, what is it, around 140 k extra? Just let your target girl choose whatever friend she wants, fuck your target girl, and ignore the other girl.
Only problem, except for probably some perceived rudeness once it becomes obvious you have no interest in the other girl, is that it will be more difficult to get a decent session with the target girl as she will be shy about doing some things in front of the third wheel. Guess you can't drop off the third wheel on the way to the room either.Or just be completely honest from the beginning and tell the second girl to wait on her sofa. Just remember to tip the main girl a bit more than usual because she'll be getting paid less than normally but will be doing all the work.
Nice Report.
For those who want to check not famous places, but still not too far from Central Jakarta.
There are many small places still openiyor working.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZXCxWeoNvN2gp6aV6
New wijaya looks like chain? They have multiple spas.
This one is new from their wa number status updates.
So I'm comparing this report to my previous one in Citibung.
Ventured out set grab to take me to Nagoya cafe on the map. Driving along the main road I noticed lone girls On both sides waiting for customers on the opposite side of the water from where the bars are so had the grab rider do a few slow passes back and forward they seemed ok but wanted to check out where the bars are. Lone workers are marked with red arrows. Then we crossed the bridge at the top arrow and drove back the way we came but on other side of the river where we could see groups of girls sitting they are all spread out a long stretch of road.
This is where it gets different to Citibung. I would say more expensive here wanting 400 most of the girls didn't want to go with Bule me they looked away. I felt unwelcome there and some of them sounded like they were cursing me to go away. There were a couple of groups who were welcoming so not all like that. The going rate here was 300-400 I think they were increasing the price. Negotiated 1 girl for 300 as they wanted 400 then afterwards they all got aggressive demanding another 100 and asking driver what hotel I stayed at I managed to stop Him talking. I persuaded him to drive off he was hesitant to leave. So I reckon things can get aggressive quickly. Way more girls here than Citibung plus the girls on the main road on other side of the water. Saw 1 Japanese tourist he came up to me and stood over the girl I asked to go with she chose him ok she was hesitant because of Bule size.
I think after everything I've experienced it's better to stick to the clubs it's a much safer environment.
Anyway if you want to explore it yourself I've attached a map.
Just to add some of the papasans seemed welcoming smiling and asking me to choose a girl but their girs looked disinterested.
That was my first experience of being unwelcomed apart from the furthest sofa in classic next to the entrance to go downstairs that spfa looked quiet last time I was in.
Asian Rain
10-02-25, 16:20
I ventured out to CitibungKudos to making the trip out there. Appreciate the detour from the Classic Channel.
Tenda biru is a couple of streets with karaoke type shops with music and girls sitting outside hard to say how many girls I wasn't there to count maybe 30- 50. Rooms are upstairs. Price is 200 k.I have an adventurous mongering mate who wanted to go there after the razing of Royal (aka The Train Station). However after I found some videos online and I convinced him otherwise.
Would I recommend this place noSecond that recommendation. Some might say it is attractive "price per pop" to be able to drop IDR200 k for each 20 (or maybe 30) minute fuck (most assuredly bareback if you want it) session. But probably fair to consider it takes almost 2 hours to get there from central Jakarta, you won't encounter much slim cute baby-free talent, and best of all you will get to do the deed in a grimy dark fan-cooled mosquito infested fuck box. If you are having a hard time seeing in the dark, you can bring a UV light and shine it on the provided mega cum sponge (the grotty foam mattress). Bring lots of wipes as there is no place to wash your junk after the deed is done (and you will probably want a good wash).
This is not intended to dissuade anybody from going there. I suspect there are those that get their freak on in these environments. So to each his own and don't be shy to report if you do. Enjoy Tenda Biru, AR.
Or just be completely honest from the beginning and tell the second girl to wait on her sofa. Just remember to tip the main girl a bit more than usual because she'll be getting paid less than normally but will be doing all the work.To confirm phone rang at 50 minutes exactly. Sign up saying 1 or 2 girls is 60 minutes. Even though I had to wait 30 minutes to take a girl downstairs after I paid mami they didn’t cut my time short.
NoGermaphobe
10-02-25, 17:05
This is good news if this is the case. I am totally ok with them reducing the 2 ladies time from 90 to 60 minutes. Selfishly, as it doesn't really affect me. And them keeping the 1 lady option still at 60 minutes is good.
With the recent reports though of guys getting a ring at 30-40 minutes, I wonder if their perception of time is just off. Or if they were really getting time cut short? I've often had that feeling occasionally at Classic recently as well that the ring was coming early. They also very aggressively knock on the door shortly after the ring, which they NEVER use to do. Your comment about having to wait for a room around 7 PM on a Thursday though, leads me to believe they are trying to cycle rooms quickly because they have so many customers.
At the very least, I will take it as good news that the official policy seems to still be 1 hour for 1 lady.
To confirm phone rang at 50 minutes exactly. Sign up saying 1 or 2 girls is 60 minutes. Even though I had to wait 30 minutes to take a girl downstairs after I paid mami.
I was at T5 and was told at entrance time for one girl 30 min knock 45 minutes.
This is good news if this is the case. I am totally ok with them reducing the 2 ladies time from 90 to 60 minutes. Selfishly, as it doesn't really affect me. And them keeping the 1 lady option still at 60 minutes is good.
With the recent reports though of guys getting a ring at 30-40 minutes, I wonder if their perception of time is just off. Or if they were really getting time cut short? I've often had that feeling occasionally at Classic recently as well that the ring was coming early. They also very aggressively knock on the door shortly after the ring, which they NEVER use to do. Your comment about having to wait for a room around 7 PM on a Thursday though, leads me to believe they are trying to cycle rooms quickly because they have so many customers.
At the very least, I will take it as good news that the official policy seems to still be 1 hour for 1 lady.
I was at T5 and was told at entrance time for one girl 30 min knock 45 minutes.I'm not condoning the changes at Classic but it's hardly unique. Many places have liberal definitions of what constitutes an hour. The 3 hours rub and tug package at Delta has been 3*45, or 2 hours 15, since forever.
Enjoy. G.
This is good news if this is the case. I am totally ok with them reducing the 2 ladies time from 90 to 60 minutes. Selfishly, as it doesn't really affect me. And them keeping the 1 lady option still at 60 minutes is good.
With the recent reports though of guys getting a ring at 30-40 minutes, I wonder if their perception of time is just off. Or if they were really getting time cut short? I've often had that feeling occasionally at Classic recently as well that the ring was coming early. They also very aggressively knock on the door shortly after the ring, which they NEVER use to do. Your comment about having to wait for a room around 7 PM on a Thursday though, leads me to believe they are trying to cycle rooms quickly because they have so many customers.
At the very least, I will take it as good news that the official policy seems to still be 1 hour for 1 lady.A friend of mine is in Jakarta at the moment and he was told by the girls about the reduced time for 1 girl bookings. I really hope Delbo1 is right, but maybe he was just lucky?
Went today Friday 22:30 it was so busy the sofas were empty had to keep walking in circles trying to find girls saw a lot sitting at tables with customers toward the bar area. Many men standing around waiting for better girls to walk past or to return. There was So many men there when I was walking in outside I thought this is going to be busy with no girls available. I don't see the mami in there making the customer go with girls once seated I don't know the setup of the arrangement of customer sitting with girl drinking together. Compared to Kota Indah where the mami wants you to take her to the room.
With the sofas empty I found girls sitting at round metal tables with their mami near the entrance I don't know why that is maybe to save her walking back and forward. It's hard to view them once sat at a tight small table anyway had to walk to the elevator with the girl I picked it's around where the pool tables are and elevator boy takes us to floor 4 where they have the same room setup with red lights. I asked about the time they said 1 hour. Phone rang at 43 minutes. So they cut my time short between 5-10 minutes compared to the other day when it was 50 minutes for phone ring. Understandably in this case due to how busy it was. The girls who were on the sofas were the ones no one were choosing. I think the hotter ones were maybe siting with mami at the tables now I think about it.
I forgot to add I wanted to take a girl out of there back to hotel it was after midnight the mami showed me her calculator and type in 365 x 5 I used translate and said it was after midnight. She didn’t change the price I thought that was ridiculous price 1.8 juta unless she increased the price to deter me from taking her.
I had matched with a single mom who looked like a MILF. Her name was Mawar. I mentioned that I was staying in hotel Acacia and she seemed to recognize it. Our small talk moved from Tinder to WhatsApp and I quickly learned that she was a single mom with two kids who had a cooking business with her parents. She asked me to order wine from grab and wanted me to pay for Cab. I was happy to do that but got the shock of my life when she wanted 300,000 for a cab ride. She mentioned that it was her time of the month and therefore that would be no sex, but she did say that she would get some food for me. I don't think she was worth it but at the time I didn't really have any other options.
I quickly understood that the money was not for the cab. I kept delaying the meeting time for her and finally asked her to come late in the night. The demonstration was getting a little bad around that time, and she came with a mask. She practically ran through the lobby and into the room. We unpacked the food that she got and I ate. The food was actually pretty good. She watched me eat and made small talk in very broken English. She unzipped her jacket to review a open blouse. She allowed me to fondle it while I ate. We kept talking about the normal things Indonesian and Indians talk about like Bollywood. She showed me her TikTok account where she lip synced Bollywood Numbers. She brought sticky rice with white meat in a small plastic bag, with sambal. She also got nice fried noodles with chicken. The food was cold, but good. She spoke a lot about her sugar daddy, a certain Indian who happens to be a pilot for either Malaysian or Singapore airlines. Apparently, he has a wife and kids and keeps her on the side. He flies her to various destinations like Bali, and a few cities in Malaysia. She seemed content with that arrangement. Even indicated that she'd be okay with it if I did that to her. Seems like something she needs to see a therapist about, but that's not why she's in my room. We spoke quite a bit about her sugar daddy and a lot about Bollywood. She loved John Abraham in The Diplomat, so I fired up Netflix and we watched. I fondled. I grabbed her hair, pulled her close, and kissed her face. She didn't resist much. I enjoyed the time we spent watching some of the movie. We laughed more than I thought we would. Then she showed me her tattoo, and I made her pose for a couple of pics. She had a massive back tattoo that she showed me on whatsapp when we were chatting, which really sealed the deal from my end. Soon, I let lust take over. I pulled her up by the tits, and threw her on the bed. I sat on her naked and made her suck my dick. Her melons were massive, and soft, if a little sagging. It was evident she had 2 kids, a business and no time to work out. But I made the most of it anyway; she was there. Her boobs were huge, and the nipples were also big. I loved nibbling on them, flicking them with my tongue, but most of all, trying to coax some milk out of them with big, deep sucking action. I could tell that some of it was a turn on for her. I could sense deep breaths, moans, and quivers. I fucked her tits, sucked her nipples, made her suck my cock. Her bottom was out of bounds. But I came all over her face and tits. She wasn't happy about it. After clean up, she mentioned that she wanted to go home. I contemplated letting her go, but I thought I'd want one more release in the morning. I do enjoy a good squeeze while I sleep, and her boobs were as good as any; soft and warm and big. I forced her to stay till 4 am. I did not get the morning release, but I did squeeze them to my heart's content while sleeping. She woke me up, all ready to go at 4 am. I groggily handed over three red notes, made sure she was out the door, and rolled back to sleep.
BBD.
FernandoAlonso
10-04-25, 04:27
I would absolutely hate to hear the telephone ring while I'm still fucking. With the new 30 minute mark this would frequently happen in my case. I think I will have no other choice than to buy two tickets at once. Has somebody done this already and does it work seamlessly? Or do I have to show the double ticket to the staff downstairs and remind them five times not to call me too early?It works seamlessly. Just point 2 fingers when they check your number armwrist.
FernandoAlonso
10-04-25, 05:39
I know there are a few reports but here is my take. Indonesia is not easy to get to, I had no affordable direct flights from my country, I flew via Arabia and paid from Europe around 1000 USD, and additionally a bit more for two weeks in a 4 Star hotel. I recommend using the 500 k online eVOA visa option, apart from an annoying credit card surcharge it works easily and saves you the hassle to change money at the airport or use the ATMs there. And most importantly you can use the automatic immigration gates. Do not forget the AllIndonesia ESTA online 72 hours before departure and keep the QR code you get on the phone, you need it at customs. I had a car free of charge with my hotel booking, there is a train to the city center for those with little luggage and sense for adventure. Jakarta is a mega city and location is key as transportation is suboptimal. Traffic jams, unreliable ride hailing apps and very few convenient public transport options make moving around a hassle, let alone walking, which is an adventure of its own in the heat, air pollution and blatant disregard for any traffic rules. I was surprised how much advanced Thailand is in that regard. Get your simpati tourist sim at the airport or in any GraPARI TELKOMSEL store. I paid 55 k for 5 gB which can be topped up everywhere in convenience stores etc as I was told. Registration is annoying but the staff was helpful. You will need your passport as you will for money exchanges (sometimes an earlier exchange proof is sufficient if you are a repeat customer though). There are different fun options, for me the best was Classic Hotel, wich is easy to find in Central Jakarta. Upon arrival via the train (Juanda / Sawah Besar station) or taxi take the nearest building entrance and on the right is T1 (opens 6 pm, closes 2 pm, later on weekends around 3 am or even 4 am). If you take the rolling stairs two times up you end up at T2, opening at 3 pm. If you want to go to T5 cross the hallway on every floor to the very end on the right side and take the lift to the 5th floor. T5 opens at 6 pm too. I was not let in before but at that time already around 50 ladies and no customers. At entrance you will get a wristband with a number. Entrance fee is 5 k paid at the end with all consumptions awarding you an exit boarding pass. All venues are similar with groups of girls sitting on sofa or a 3 stage display area. Bar tables and chairs in the middle of the room, some reserved. They have DJs and performance stages but they are used only sometimes. Each venue has at full capacity at least 100 girls (of which many are in the rooms, some changing or eating so if you want a specific girl ask mama). Mamas swarm you as soon as you enter, I would recommend to friendly decline and take a look around first. Then sit down near the group of girls you fancy. Mama will find you, no worries. Each sitting area has one or several mamas who will introduce her lineup asked or unasked. It is ok to politely decline. Girl will sit with you for a few minutes or more and you can decline after that. Girls will get hands on to convince you to take them. You can order drinks and snacks (a water or a coke is around 30 k, cigarettes 60 k) but you can also sit for an hour without ordering. If you decide on a girl mama will make you sign a piece of paper (the voucher at 365 k) entitling you to 45 minutes with 1 or 60 minutes with 2 girls. I know there is a discussion ongoing but this is how it was for me every time so far. You pay in principle before you leave but especially in T2 some mamas want the money first. No worries you will not get cheated. She will give the girl the paper and one condom per voucher or girl. Girl will lead you to a small room with a bed and a shower stall. The attendants will control the voucher, her name and your number. She will wash you thoroughly and then you two or three have fun until the call comes giving you about 5 minutes to shower and get dressed. Afterwards you bring her back and she will leave you to either pick the next one or pay and go home. The girls are not allowed their phones during working hours and many basically work for 8 to 12 hours, spend another 2 to 3 hours for work preparation and sleep the rest. So you can try to arrange outside meetings but it is not easy and requires real chemistry and must be lucrative for her. In addition to the mamas the girls may have kids, boyfriends and bosses whom they owe money and are not as free in their decision as we might think (anyone has info on this I would appreciate a pm). The 365 k is split as follows: 90 k for the room, 240 for the girl (she gets as far as I can tell about 40% of it, rest goes to mama) and the reminder is a service charge of sorts. So the girls will ask for tips, sometimes relative aggressive, which I can understand. Tipping the mama, security and cashiers is a waste in my opinion. But a good relationship with mama is important. The take out fee is seven vouchers but depends on the take out time. In theory that frees the girl for the night but I had mamas requesting proof the girls leave your hotel early morning, which I found very annoying. Hope that is helpful. Happy to get pms or general questions, all written is based on my personal experiences so others may have different views.
AmericanPi
10-04-25, 16:22
Now this was a report of distinction. Well done.
I followed your advice on getting the E visa. For people getting off at 20 hour flight, it's going to be much nicer to just zip through customs.
A piece of advice for others to go through this. It's not a very intuitive system. Some things are broken. Use ChatGPT. It will guide you through. Like it's able to point out what to enter in different fields that are not intuitive.
Also, regarding the eSIM. I'm not sure why people do that. Maybe people have different types of cell phone plans. With my provider, T-Mobile, it's something like five or $10 per day and you get 5 GB of data. And they just charge you an extra five or $10 if you need an extra 5 GB. But no need to do anything.
I know there are a few reports but here is my take. Indonesia is not easy to get to, I had no affordable direct flights from my country, I flew via Arabia and paid from Europe around 1000 USD, and additionally a bit more for two weeks in a 4 Star hotel. I recommend using the 500 k online eVOA visa option, apart from an annoying credit card surcharge it works easily and saves you the hassle to change money at the airport or use the ATMs there. And most importantly you can use the automatic immigration gates. Do not forget the AllIndonesia ESTA online 72 hours before departure and keep the QR code you get on the phone, you need it at customs. I had a car free of charge with my hotel booking, there is a train to the city center for those with little luggage and sense for adventure. Jakarta is a mega city and location is key as transportation is suboptimal. Traffic jams, unreliable ride hailing apps and very few convenient public transport options make moving around a hassle, let alone walking, which is an adventure of its own in the heat, air pollution and blatant disregard for any traffic rules. I was surprised how much advanced Thailand is in that regard. Get your simpati tourist sim at the airport or in any GraPARI TELKOMSEL store. I paid 55 k for 5 gB which can be topped up everywhere in convenience stores etc as I was told. Registration is annoying but the staff was helpful..
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