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HappyFarang
10-05-25, 12:48
The spa in Orchardz Hotel is called Grand Boutique Spa. The easy way to access it is to go through the main entrance of Orchardz Hotel. Walk through the gates from the main road, go up the big ramp until you reach the hotel entrance. As soon as you enter, go to your right and walk through the restaurant until you see elevators. Use the right hand side elevator, which is the only one that will take you to Grand Boutique Spa.

If you want a super discreet way to get there, once you walk through the gates from the main road, don't go up on the ramp but keep walking through the parking lot until you notice a door near the corner of the building. The door should be open. This is the basement floor. You can access the same lift from here, as soon as you go inside the door.

I think the Spa was on the 3rd floor. There is a reception where they give you a numbered bracelet which you need to open the locker with the same number. Lockers, changing room, toilets all in the same place, this is where you change into the provided bathing shorts. Chill in the hot pool, the cold one is very very cold. Sauna and steam room were not even remotely hot, maybe because I went there early?

After the bath a shower is mandatory, then changed into the robe provided in the pool area. I was ready for the "massage". From this area, I walked straight and then left into a large room with a second reception where a friendly lady showed me the spa menu. The prices were different from what had been reported here before.

The cheapest full service option cost 760 k and it was 90 minutes, including massage. I couldn't choose the girl (I went at opening time, maybe too early?) and got an okay-ish chubby girl. The reception lady asked for my number so maybe next time I can choose the girl via WA. The room was typical but had nicely positioned full-wall mirrors all around the bed. All places should be like this. I could see the girl from every angle from anywhere.

Massage was less than okay but better than the girl from Kimochi Mabes. Zero kissing. Sex was surprisingly better than I expected, despite her sizes which are not my preference. I felt like I was discovering something new.

I didn't tip for two reasons: I didn't have the wallet with me because I had left everything in the locker, and the girl didn't ask or hint at it at all. There is no tip in Kimochi Mabes (it's included) so I felt safe to assume that I didn't have to give a tip. I hope this wasn't a mistake.

I paid 760 k at the main reception (where the lifts are), so facilities are included.

I would give the whole experience a solid neutral. Not being able to choose the girl sucks, it's better to enquire via WA beforehand.

I would go back if they have a nice slim girl because I'm 100% done with this chubby trend that I have been experiencing, not to mention the lack of FK. Next Spa I want to try is Sugar, just to tick it off the bucket list but I expect a similar experience. So far nothing beats KI. I also like Classic but I have to learn to navigate it better, I always end up getting bamboozled by the mamasan.

Sanewho999
10-06-25, 08:56
August 2025 Visit Report.

Have been a long time lurker on the forum, finally subscribed and wanting to give back, so finally was in Jakarta on business for a week and and have read classic and emporium mentioned multiple times had the opportunity to sample the places first hand.

Report 01:

Classic Report. Visited once during the entire visit.

As mentioned many times, its has about 3 floors, I visited the one on 5th Floor, the moment I entered the pushy mamasans kept at it, I managed to send a first 2 away, but had to eventually take a girl, this was not my choice but then once you are there, its always a pressure to choose, and I did not want to be rude, so selected the girl mami brought, had some beer and finally went to the room.

The girl was good looking, but a little to short for my taste, I'm 6.1, but she more than made up with her fiery attitude, we went at it in many positions and eventually ended up with CIM. No Cover, so in and out in about 30 minutes, tipped her 200 K for her efforts and cheerful attitude.

While the punt was good, the venue lacks overall, in terms of cleanliness, and the vibe of the place and pushy mamis don't really encourage you to return. Total damage about 800 K with 350 for the slip, 200 tip, and some money for beer. Overall at Cheap Punt, but not something I the return to again.

Report 2:

Emporium. Girl Named Nadia, set up through David.

This was by far the best punt for this trip (I have taken earlier trips when I was not a member) . David recommended me the girl based on my preferences, it was mid day, girl was about 5.7 + heels, hourglass figure, and see cups and I got an instant boner the moment I laid eyes on her, and off we went to the pool, she had by then changed into a golden bikini, and there was no one in the pool apart from us, we went there for a quite a bit, snogged, sucked her titties, while she hand her hands in my briefs, about 15 minutes in had to stop for the fear of releasing in the pool, continued to the room, where we went at it again, and to my surprise after a while, we went bareback, dint ask her for this, but wasn't really complaining. Finished on here juicy tits, tipped her 300 K, with the total coming to 2.1 Mil IDR. Best money spent so far.

Emporium is a much classier experience, you don't have pushy mamis, you can choose to take your time, the rooms are clean and well maintained and the girls are generally hotter and well dressed and as I was staying next door at the movenpick worked out really well for me.

I can share the digits of David for anyone interested, they also have a telegram group, where you see the daily selection and then book with David.

Thanks.

JSmithJ88
10-06-25, 18:24
but had to eventually take a girl, this was not my choice but then once you are there, its always a pressure to choose, and I did not want to be rude, so selected the girl mami brought,

LOOOL. False. Nobody forced you to choose.
You just need a stronger backbone and say NO again and again and again.

Stl24
10-07-25, 02:25
Planning a trip in the spring and I've read through pages and pages of reviews. Couple of questions:

Looking at Classic, it seems like there are different levels T5, T2, etc. Anyone give me a quick rundown of the operation or how it works (different levels offer different things, process etc.). I've mongered all over Europe and South America. First time heading to Asia.

Where is Emporium? Might be a stupid question LOL but I can't seem to find the location (lots of locations pop up on my map when I put Emporium).

Any strong recommendations besides those two?

Jimmyzhu
10-07-25, 08:19
August 2025 Visit Report.

I can share the digits of David for anyone interested, they also have a telegram group, where you see the daily selection and then book with David..Could you share Davids contact via PM? Much appreciated!

Sanewho999
10-07-25, 09:47
Planning a trip in the spring and I've read through pages and pages of reviews. Couple of questions:

Looking at Classic, it seems like there are different levels T5, T2, etc. Anyone give me a quick rundown of the operation or how it works (different levels offer different things, process etc.). I've mongered all over Europe and South America. First time heading to Asia.

Where is Emporium? Might be a stupid question LOL but I can't seem to find the location (lots of locations pop up on my map when I put Emporium).

Any strong recommendations besides those two?This is the emporium you want to visit.

https://share.google/QXmAQGCPr7vsJVxVj

Cheers.

Stl24
10-08-25, 02:25
Cheers, mate!


This is the emporium you want to visit.

https://share.google/QXmAQGCPr7vsJVxVj

Cheers.

AmericanPi
10-08-25, 03:19
August 2025 Visit Report.


I can share the digits of David for anyone interested, they also have a telegram group, where you see the daily selection and then book with David.

Thanks.I'll take David's telegram group. You can dm me. I'm a paying member here. Thanks.

Argo1990
10-08-25, 20:34
Not sure if this has been covered. But are there any telegram groups for people on the ground or for bar / massage / hotel promotions? For plenty other places like thailand, Cambodia and philippines there are fairly active communities. I could not find anything on Jakarta. Sifting through the forums is not always the most efficient way on finding different venues. Especially if you only have like 4-5 days.

DiverOyster
10-09-25, 06:21
August 2025 Visit Report.


I can share the digits of David for anyone interested, they also have a telegram group, where you see the daily selection and then book with David.

Thanks.Can you please share the digits of David and the telegram group. You can dm me. Thanks.

FlyingSparkz
10-09-25, 18:02
Brother trying to DM you. Your inbox is full.

FlyingSparkz
10-10-25, 05:23
Was trying to DM you. Your inbox is full. And the previous post went without quoting and hence sending again. TIA.


I had matched with a single mom who looked like a MILF. Her name was Mawar. I mentioned that I was staying in hotel Acacia and she seemed to recognize it. Our small talk moved from Tinder to WhatsApp and I quickly learned that she was a single mom with two kids who had a cooking business with her parents. She asked me to order wine from grab and wanted me to pay for Cab. I was happy to do that but got the shock of my life when she wanted 300,000 for a cab ride. She mentioned that it was her time of the month and therefore that would be no sex, but she did say that she would get some food for me. I don't think she was worth it but at the time I didn't really have any other options.

I quickly understood that the money was not for the cab. I kept delaying the meeting time for her and finally asked her to come late in the night. The demonstration was getting a little bad around that time, and she came with a mask. She practically ran through the lobby and into the room. We unpacked the food that she got and I ate. The food was actually pretty good. She watched me eat and made small talk in very broken English. She unzipped her jacket to review a open blouse. She allowed me to fondle it while I ate. We kept talking about the normal things Indonesian and Indians talk about like Bollywood..

FernandoAlonso
10-10-25, 06:35
Last one on my bucket list. Take the train to Jakarta Kota and stroll 5 minutes north via Kota Tua, cross the small street and keep slightly right. No need to get stuck in traffic using uber and Kota Tua alone is worth the visit. A small sign 1001 is all that indicates you are at the right place. From the outside the building is absolutely non descriptive. Walk left from the colisseum entrance until security will stop and strip search you (joking) and put a sticker on your camera. Only on the rear though. Ask for the Pool and they will escort you to where you want to be. Reception will put your phone in a sealed plastic bag, give you a wristband with your number, take all your bags to put them in a locker and explain 300 k entrance fee. They will then call a Mami to guide you further who will lead you to the impressive club interior. A must see. Similar to Scandallo but smaller. Mami will hustle you into a drink (80 k for my water if I saw correctly) claiming it was included in the entrance fee. Girls were quoted 1,75 for local and 3,3 for international. The former sit on the left side on a stage (at around 5 pm about 20, it might sit 60 if I am not wrong). All ladies in long evening dresses, sexy cut. I never saw the international ones. Mami will call them over and you can immediately spot who to avoid (hiding behind, not even coming, rushing to the side, no eye contact etc.). All are beautiful, slim and well made up. However for me lookswise all high category but on par with the top 20% at classic. Just my personal verdict. I picked a smiling one who recommended up to 5 others to join. Well, no thank you. Decent enough English for a quick conversation but not much flirting. Asked about pool play, she confirmed it to be included but it never happened as she let me right to a nice room upstairs. She undressed and revealed her 20 year old, white skinned flawless body however only trimmed (moderately and not really done well) with perfect natural A / be cups. Then shower, teeth brushing and up for the main deed, initially no kissing but she allowed licking for some, not too long time and was good sports in missionary and doggy. They use good Japanese Vivo condoms and some warming lube (not my thing, I might be even allergic). Some light kissing was possible later during the act and she put up a good show. She was active to some point but it took a while until she really got wet by herself. Room time is 1 hour or one pop, whatever comes first. She cleaned up and dressed very quickly and accepted graciously a tip. Very transaction oriented. Total fee was 1,963 mio. Which makes zero sense to my mathematical education (1,75 girl plus 300 k entry plus 80 k Drink plus 90 k room charge plus some taxes)? With the tip I was close to 2,2 mio for basically a 30 minutes quickie in a superior environment. It was good service but nothing spectacular. I had much better and slightly worse at Classic. But doing it once is a must IMHO. Best service was by the staff but I would always pick Classic, even Emporium if it had more girls over it unless I was in the area, had limited time and too much money. For over 100 bucks I can also go to an overpriced German FKK, no need fly to Indonesia. As always this is my personal experience as I felt it. Others may have different views. Comments and questions are welcome.

FernandoAlonso
10-10-25, 06:35
Brother trying to DM you. Your inbox is full.It might be helpful to indicate whom you mean?

MSanchez
10-10-25, 08:18
Roy,

Could you give a few examples of better places in South Jakarta? I haven't been to any good places south of Emporium yet. There seem to be a few places like Sagitarius and Fortune in central Jakarta that don't seem very promising, and of course BATS and CJ's. But are there any other good places in South Jakarta?


Agreed. Emporium is just too expensive now and not worth going. They actually have the same boss as 1001. Emporium is the reject shop for 1001. I had better service in the South Jakarta with much lower price and prettier, younger girls.

Steve 9696
10-11-25, 01:43
As Jakarta seems the bareback capital of the world, this is both a good thing and a bad thing. Good because widely available. Bad because lots higher rate or transmission possible. Anyone know a reliable place in mid / north Jakarta to buy Doxy Pep? I'the rather not go thru the hassle of getting it at home if possible. Alternatively anyone recommend a good discrete online provider?

Argo1990
10-11-25, 02:00
Is there like a map with all the known bigger venues? Or a list at least so I can bookmark the places on google maps?

I'm going end of October (PP and Jakarta) will be my first trip and I will only have like 4-5 days. I want to pop inside 2 girls per day at least.

If anyone is on the ground ard 27th of October let me know. Happy to buy a few rounds for someone to show me the hotspots.

Safado70
10-11-25, 02:02
As Jakarta seems the bareback capital of the world, this is both a good thing and a bad thing. Good because widely available. Bad because lots higher rate or transmission possible. Anyone know a reliable place in mid / north Jakarta to buy Doxy Pep? I'the rather not go thru the hassle of getting it at home if possible. Alternatively anyone recommend a good discrete online provider?I had no problem buying it in a regular pharmacy. It didn't help against gonorrhea though, caught it anyway. And I even got the meningococcal be vaccine before my trip, which is supposed to give limited cross protection against gonorrhea.

Goferring
10-11-25, 03:04
As Jakarta seems the bareback capital of the worldThat's a big call. Ever been to the Philippines? Girls there are insulted if you even bring up the topic.

G.

XXL
10-11-25, 03:42
As Jakarta seems the bareback capital of the world, this is both a good thing and a bad thing. Good because widely available. Bad because lots higher rate or transmission possible. Anyone know a reliable place in mid / north Jakarta to buy Doxy Pep? I'the rather not go thru the hassle of getting it at home if possible. Alternatively anyone recommend a good discrete online provider?Any pharmacy will sell you doxycycline if they have it in stock. What shopping mall pharmacies like Waston's, Century etc. will not agree to sell you without a prescription is cefixime. For cefixime you'll have to go to a downmarket pharmacy like the ones inside Pasar Baru. Cefixime is efficient against Gonhorrea though less recommended than an injection of Ceftriaxone.

NoGermaphobe
10-11-25, 03:57
Any pharmacy will sell you doxycycline if they have it in stock. What shopping mall pharmacies like Waston's, Century etc. will not agree to sell you without a prescription is cefixime. For cefixime you'll have to go to a downmarket pharmacy like the ones inside Pasar Baru. Cefixime is efficient against Gonhorrea though less recommended than an injection of Ceftriaxone.

Here are the current treatment regimens:

Ceftriaxone 500 MG* I-M (I-M means the shot, intra-muscular) in a single dose for persons weighing <150 kg.

If chlamydial infection has not been excluded, treat for chlamydia with doxycycline 100 MG orally 2 times / day for 7 days.

* For persons weighing ≥150 kg, 1 g ceftriaxone should be administered.

Alternative Regimens.

If cephalosporin allergy:

Gentamicin 240 MG I-M in a single dose.

PLUS.

Azithromycin 2 g orally in a single dose.

If ceftriaxone administration is not available or not feasible:

Cefixime 800 MG* orally in a single dose.

* If chlamydial infection has not been excluded, providers should treat for chlamydia with doxycycline 100 MG orally 2 times / day for 7 days.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment-guidelines/gonorrhea-adults.htm

Jimmy Boy 99
10-11-25, 05:04
Total fee was 1,963 mio. Which makes zero sense to my mathematical education (1,75 girl plus 300 k entry plus 80 k Drink plus 90 k room charge plus some taxes)? They apparently don't charge the entrance fee if you session, as without the 300 K entrance fee, the cost is 1,920 K, very close to the 1,963 K they charged you.

SuperLove
10-11-25, 07:29
Classic – best value for your buck, must visit.

Travel – similar as classic although chances for BBBJ and BB low.

Emporium – on a higher side, but good quality lineup and service.

Colosseum 1001 – kickass line up, high end, again chances of BBBJ and BB are low.

Kota Indah – didn't like the setup plus rooms are dirty and small, I prefer classic any day.

Kelpa gading – too far in the east, decent setup.

Sagitarius – mamasan confirmed no BBBJ and BB like other places, smaller setup. I prefer emporium.

Fortune – very nice facility, excellent to relax and enjoy. Although line up is thin but worth a visit.

CJ's and BATS – good places to visit if you like live music and MILF's, be prepared to fork out good money as girls ask too much, low chances to find someone in their 20's.

Action is hot in the north.


Roy,

Could you give a few examples of better places in South Jakarta? I haven't been to any good places south of Emporium yet. There seem to be a few places like Sagitarius and Fortune in central Jakarta that don't seem very promising, and of course BATS and CJ's. But are there any other good places in South Jakarta?

Roy2920
10-11-25, 15:16
Roy,

Could you give a few examples of better places in South Jakarta? I haven't been to any good places south of Emporium yet. There seem to be a few places like Sagitarius and Fortune in central Jakarta that don't seem very promising, and of course BATS and CJ's. But are there any other good places in South Jakarta?I am referring to Blok M e. G. Natsu. There a lot of similar places surrounding Blok M that I haven't explore yet but it is promising.

Roy2920
10-11-25, 15:41
Classic best value for your buck, must visit.

Travel similar as classic although chances for BBBJ and BB low.

Emporium on a higher side, but good quality lineup and service.

Colosseum 1001 kickass line up, high end, again chances of BBBJ and BB are low.

Kota Indah didn't like the setup plus rooms are dirty and small, I prefer classic any day.

Kelpa gading too far in the east, decent setup.

Sagitarius mamasan confirmed no BBBJ and BB like other places, smaller setup. I prefer emporium.
.The official rule in all places is of course to wear caps. For the girls, they will receive heavy penalty and pay treatment out of their pocket if they are pregnant or infected. So the deal is with the girls on individual basis. Except for Emporium and Colosseum, I always have BB, though sometimes I chose not to due to girls' condition. In Sagitarius, I even had it in the pool!

Steve 9696
10-12-25, 00:29
Rest of world nightclub type stuff is like 9-3 am give or take. I recall people here saying go to Classic at 3PM. That is so early. I am not ready for nightlife at 3PM.

Can anyone provide insights on how things are at night? You know 10 pm and onward. I prob will hit classic and emporium primarily. Also any club recommendations. Like where I would just go to drink and dance. Maybe a my girl in tow?

Thanks.

Chilli1
10-12-25, 00:41
Block m spas have few girls or has any large setups like classic.

Share block m locations.


I am referring to Blok M e. G. Natsu. There a lot of similar places surrounding Blok M that I haven't explore yet but it is promising.

Safado70
10-12-25, 02:52
Rest of world nightclub type stuff is like 9-3 am give or take. I recall people here saying go to Classic at 3PM. That is so early. I am not ready for nightlife at 3PM.

Can anyone provide insights on how things are at night? You know 10 pm and onward. I prob will hit classic and emporium primarily. Also any club recommendations. Like where I would just go to drink and dance. Maybe a my girl in tow?

Thanks.The night club at fortune hotel starts at 9 pm and goes till 3 am, weekends till 5 am.

Roy2920
10-12-25, 04:10
Block m spas have few girls or has any large setups like classic.

Share block m locations.Classic is more like lounge club. Block M has variety of entertainment outlet including lounge club but smaller scale than Classic. Spa has between 10 - 20 girls.

De Nattsu is at https://maps.app.goo.gl/dM3XnuynBoAHfHs66.

That's where block m is.

Vendelo
10-12-25, 06:18
That's a big call. Ever been to the Philippines? Girls there are insulted if you even bring up the topic..Kindly clarify, Filipinas would be insulted that the PI is not the BB capital of the world?

I was in Manila in Jan and all 3 girls wrapped me up.

SuperLove
10-12-25, 11:22
I understand and hear you. One time I was in 1001 colosseum and David recommended to get in touch with his friend papi romi, I did and asked for BBBJ service from the lineup. He was miffed and walked away. You are correct and I get it on BB that girls wants to be discreet, but denying BBBJ is a mongering sin, LOL. I don't think I can select her, that's my first base.


The official rule in all places is of course to wear caps. For the girls, they will receive heavy penalty and pay treatment out of their pocket if they are pregnant or infected. So the deal is with the girls on individual basis. Except for Emporium and Colosseum, I always have BB, though sometimes I chose not to due to girls' condition. In Sagitarius, I even had it in the pool!

Asian Rain
10-12-25, 18:38
Classic is more like lounge club. Block M has variety of entertainment outlet including lounge club but smaller scale than Classic. Spa has between 10 - 20 girls.
De Nattsu is at https://maps.app.goo.gl/dM3XnuynBoAHfHs66The "Little Tokyo" entertainment strip has been there forever. Nearby on Jalan Faletehan, the Oil and Gas geezers popularized the now largely extinct bars which catered to westerners. OTOH, the restaurants, bars and KTV pubs of Little Tokyo catered specifically to the single Japanese salarymen working for Japanese manufacturing and construction companies. It was where they could eat, sing and fuck just like they did in Japan. Back in the day, a couple of the girls I encountered in the Faletehan bars claimed that they had worked in the Little Tokyo establisments.

Have you had a successful P4 P sex experience originating out of these Little Tokyo establishments? Or is it just a feeling inspired by a drive by? My experience is that Japanese will do their best to exclude non-Japanese from their P4 P playgrounds, so do tell if something has changed.

Just a hunch, but I think there would be better luck for the average monger walking slowly around Plaza Blok M Mall and letting the girls find you. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

Bienenstich
10-13-25, 03:09
Train track royal.

Exactly what I needed after a long break from international travel. I feel totally relaxed. Casually filling up 30+ prosys in mostly royal gedong panjang.

Two in classic, one in kota and 3 in lokasari. Which in everyway IMO are simply inferior. Checked most other popular places as well, like malio, travel, raja mas, all classic floors etc. And honestly I could have done without them. Who needs a godforsaken mami or management drilling them to insist on wrapper or upcharge for that. F that.

Sadly big parts of royal were demolished, the hallway of bareback heaven is gone and replaced with a stupid park which made me sigh a lot and honestly was close to shedding tears. What kind of man or men would devalue such a paradise.

Better lighting, music, estimated capacity for 200 more pale white prosys. History. Just why.

If theres similar places to royal ID love to check them out.

Pasar pisang?

Manggarai station?

Cilincing? The place with the ducks LOL.

Tanahabang station?

I don't have one exact pin of them and would greatly appreciate that.

SuperLove
10-13-25, 08:26
I was chatting this Tinder girl for a long time, we connected last year and have been missing each other all the time, every time I am in the city she is travelling abroad or she says. Good looking in her late 20's and has a well endowed body, sent me a video of her boobs and they were all natural see or probably the cups. And followed up with a message attached, I flipped out laughing, I am sure she found a sucker to her sob story.

FernandoAlonso
10-14-25, 03:43
Here are the current treatment regimens:

Ceftriaxone 500 MG* I-M (I-M means the shot, intra-muscular) in a single dose for persons weighing <150 kg.

If chlamydial infection has not been excluded, treat for chlamydia with doxycycline 100 MG orally 2 times / day for 7 days.

* For persons weighing ≥150 kg, 1 g ceftriaxone should be administered.

Alternative Regimens.

If cephalosporin allergy:

Gentamicin 240 MG I-M in a single dose.

PLUS.

Azithromycin 2 g orally in a single dose.

If ceftriaxone administration is not available or not feasible:

Cefixime 800 MG* orally in a single dose.

* If chlamydial infection has not been excluded, providers should treat for chlamydia with doxycycline 100 MG orally 2 times / day for 7 days.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment-guidelines/gonorrhea-adults.htmJust as addition and caveat, Cefixime is not effective on oral (pharyngeal) manifestations of gono and it is absolutely necessary to see a doctor in such cases, get a STD panel and then treatment. Most of the big 4 have such a high rate of antibiotics resistance everything else is completely insane.

Vendelo
10-14-25, 18:38
I was chatting this Tinder girl for a long time, we connected last year and have been missing each other all the time, every time I am in the city she is travelling abroad or she says. Good looking in her late 20's and has a well endowed body, sent me a video of her boobs and they were all natural see or probably the cups. And followed up with a message attached, I flipped out laughing, I am sure she found a sucker to her sob story.I have received many similar requests. Brother killed himself; need to buy coffin. Mother in hospital. Son in hospital. Son needs books for school. No food. Tuition. On and on.

Bbdbbd
10-14-25, 21:21
Was trying to DM you. Your inbox is full. And the previous post went without quoting and hence sending again. TIA.Inbox is now cleared, brother.

BBD.

Plant Smoke
10-15-25, 12:43
I was chatting this Tinder girl for a long time, we connected last year and have been missing each other all the time, every time I am in the city she is travelling abroad or she says. Good looking in her late 20's and has a well endowed body, sent me a video of her boobs and they were all natural see or probably the cups. And followed up with a message attached, I flipped out laughing, I am sure she found a sucker to her sob story.Tinder is located in Hollywood; among other things, the land of queers:

Additionally:

1. Tinder does not allow you to send files. Who in the world is going to investigate / research how to send files (don't you like to send additional profile photos, QR codes in Thailand, hobby photos to girls?) on tinder thru third party apps? What are they worried about with files? Are they so woke, they are worried about nudies? Why wouldn't they just ban you for nude photos?

2. they don't tell you how much the girl weighs? This is kind of important, is it not? What are you supposed to do? Scroll down to "Interests" and if she likes cooking, conclude that she is a fatty?

3. Tinder will accept any and every profile photo. Tinder especially likes the hair in the back of a girls' head and absolutely adores a phone in front of a face.

4. tinder does not tell you when the girl was last online and I believe does not tell you if your message was read by the girl. Subscription killers.

5. Tinder is a rich company. Who wants to bet some / all of the hotties on tinder are prop / fake girls?

6. Who wants to be HIT with upsells every 10 seconds with mysterious Tinder University or Utilize the girl you are having trouble matching with in the first place as a matchmaker?

TAN TAN?: Tan Tan is a Chinese company. Being a Chinese company, they have unlimited access to Chinese Country girls.

Ok here it is. I've utilized Tan Tan in Thailand and Indonesia for 6 months; and have not fucked, let aloner met a single girl on this website. So how would a boiler-room butcher shop.

In Sihanoukville Cambodia do it? They, on Tan TAN, would answer your first couple messages to keep you going and then suddenly go dead. That is what I experienced in 6 months.

Most of my conversations / texts ended with, "Where did you go?" What happened to you?" Enough said.

Mind you, I have not paid for seeking. But with free account, I put age range on Seeking on 18-20, Jakarta, and you know what? There was only about 30 girls. I conclude.

Over my dead body am I going to pay over 1.5 million rupiah for a sugar baby MILF.

I conclude this post with a request for more info. On Sagitarius, central Jakarta. Is it a miniature classic hotel? Thanks.

Steve 9696
10-16-25, 00:06
Pretty fair number of reports on here about 1001. The pool and spa gig. But at the same place there is Colosseum. The nightclub. Honestly the nightclub looks pretty epic.

Anyonenher have firsthand experience with the Colosseum nightclub? How's it work? Is it more like freelancers? Seems hard to get the whole lineup and mamasan setup going in that nightclub setting. Can anyone give the lowdown on colloseum?

Safado70
10-16-25, 13:57
Three weeks have passed since the introduction of new time limits at classic. Now that things have settled a bit, how does it work and how do you feel about it?

Paolo99
10-17-25, 04:46
Three weeks have passed since the introduction of new time limits at classic. Now that things have settled a bit, how does it work and how do you feel about it?It was a nothingburger in my experience.

Either they reversed back to normal after complaints from local customers or they keep that stuff for very busy moments only.

I've had a dozen visits since the first day they changed the rules (mostly in T5) and the phone rang at 35 minutes only two times (one time in T2 the first day and another time in T5 a few days later).

During the last Week I've had at least three visits in T2 and the phone never rang before 45 or 50 minutes.

Sometimes there's no phone call at all, and I've left many times after spending 65 minutes in the room, and nobody gives a fuck.

I'm talking about single sessions only, I've never done a threesome there.

People shouldn't stress about the time, even when the phone rings I Always tell the girl to go for 5 minutes more (they Always agree) and I make it last as long as I want up to the 60 minutes and I never had any complaints afterwards (there have not been any Knock on the door too during all my visits).

SuperLove
10-17-25, 05:43
Sagitarius is near thamrin not a very big setup, I went there last time. Quality of line up wasn't great and on top price is way more than classic and little less than emporium. Also I checked with papi and they clearly told me no BBBJ so I just used their steam sauna pool and left paid entrance fee, no action there. I prefer classic for price and empo for experience and quality. YMMV.


Tinder is located in Hollywood; among other things, the land of queers:

Additionally:

1. Tinder does not allow you to send files. Who in the world is going to investigate / research how to send files (don't you like to send additional profile photos, QR codes in Thailand, hobby photos to girls?) on tinder thru third party apps? What are they worried about with files? Are they so woke, they are worried about nudies? Why wouldn't they just ban you for nude photos?

2. they don't tell you how much the girl weighs? This is kind of important, is it not? What are you supposed to do? Scroll down to "Interests" and if she likes cooking, conclude that she is a fatty?

3. Tinder will accept any and every profile photo. Tinder especially likes the hair in the back of a girls' head and absolutely adores a phone in front of a face.

4. tinder does not tell you when the girl was last online and I believe does not tell you if your message was read by the girl. Subscription killers.

5. Tinder is a rich company. Who wants to bet some / all of the hotties on tinder are prop / fake girls?.

Red Rider
10-17-25, 12:14
I haven't been to Jakarta for a few years and have been following the discussion on Classic. I decided to visit Malio on my first night.

I went about 5:30 pm on a weekday. In the side door (a doorman is there to give you the boom-boom sign) and then given a wristband. They sent me up to floor #2. At a second desk, they pointed to a short flight of stairs leading up to the bar area.

In the bar on the upper level were about 30 women. It was dinner time so most were eating. There were 8 very attractive eastern European blondes sitting and smoking together. On the lower level were about 40 more women.

I was directed to a table and they took my drink order. Surprisingly, no one approached me. It was very laid back. At times the mommy would bring 15 or so women up to a table where a couple of men were sitting. They went through a process of elimination to get the two they wanted. I nursed my Sprite for 30 minutes without being approached. So, I asked one of the table servers to send over a mommy. She showed me her well-worn laminated sheet. "Local" (Indo) girls were the least expensive. The lower tier where the "gold" was 1. 2 M and the "platinum" tier were 1. 8 M. She tried to upsell me to foreign women and two-some's, but I really wanted a nice Indo.

I picked the lower tier and I gave her my specifications – pretty, kisses, BBBJ and DATY. She left to go to the lower level to pick through her brood. She came back with only two who fit the bill. Both were very attractive and in their early 20's. I was glad I didn't go for the Platinum tier as these girls were great. I confirmed with mommy and the girls what I wanted. Mommy didn't seem to know what 69 was so one of the girls explained it to her. That is the girl I picked. Mommy asked me for a tip and handed me a piece of paper where I could tick a box indicating the amount. I just said no and she shrugged and said OK.

Up in the room where it was lighter, I found the 20-year-old girl was indeed very pretty. Flawless. Nice natural boobs and no baby damage. I had a great session with her and tipped her 2. 5 M. My total bill for the Sprite, room and girl was 1,349,500 or $81 US. I felt like that was a pretty good price. The session was a full 60 minutes and unrushed.

I went back the next night. This time there were about 25 Eastern European girls. They were smoking heavily and unapproachable. I had a different mommy this time and gave my same specifications. She said none of the girls did kissing, BBBJ or DATY. She didn't speak English very well, so I talked to one of the table boys who explained to her. She brought up 15 girls. The table boy explained what I wanted, and they all looked shocked. Mommy said they don't do those things. The girls left and I explained (through the table boy) that I just got those services there the night before. She went down to the lower level and found the girl I was with last night.

I decided to go with the flow as I didn't have any other choices. But the "official" policy is no kissing, no BBBJ and no DATY. You might be able to negotiate that in the room, but it is what it is.

I had been reluctant to try Classic because of the recent reports of covered BJ and shortened room times. The mommies were definitely pushier here, but one brought me an outstanding 19-year-old. With my translator I confirmed BBBJ and DATY with the girl. I also told the mommy I wanted a full hour, not 45 minutes. She agreed.

The girl was a bit inexperienced, but it was a good session. The phone rang at 45 minutes, so I did get the full hour.

Definitely Classic is a better deal than Malio.

Steve 9696
10-17-25, 14:37
It was a nothingburger in my experience.

Either they reversed back to normal after complaints from local customers or they keep that stuff for very busy moments only.

I've had a dozen visits since the first day they changed the rules (mostly in T5) and the phone rang at 35 minutes only two times (one time in T2 the first day and another time in T5 a few days later).

During the last Week I've had at least three visits in T2 and the phone never rang before 45 or 50 minutes.

Sometimes there's no phone call at all, and I've left many times after spending 65 minutes in the room, and nobody gives a fuck.

I'm talking about single sessions only, I've never done a threesome there.

People shouldn't stress about the time, even when the phone rings I Always tell the girl to go for 5 minutes more (they Always agree) and I make it last as long as I want up to the 60 minutes and I never had any complaints afterwards (there have not been any Knock on the door too during all my visits).I know I can find it if I dig but would someone do me the favor of summarizing T2 vs T5. Primary diferences and how you find one vs the other?

Paolo99
10-17-25, 18:15
I know I can find it if I dig but would someone do me the favor of summarizing T2 vs T5. Primary diferences and how you find one vs the other?Both are located in the same building.

T2 is on the second floor, T5 is on the fifth.

You can get access to both of them by using the lift, you can't miss any of them, they are very easy to find once you're in the building.

Primary difference is the setup, I much prefer T5 because it's a big open space with only two places where the girls are seated. You can see the girls very well, the lighting is good where they are seated.

There is also less customers and less smoke there, but the downside is there is also less girls. When you come often you mostly see the same girls every night.

In T2 the girls are seated on benches all over the place, there's a lot more customers and a lot of smoke from cigarettes. There are also some snooker tables. Much more girls there than in T5.

Both places have a group performing live music in the early evening too.

KoolGuy85
10-18-25, 12:36
Went to Classic Terminal 2 yesterday for the first time. Mammasan was asking me to choose right away but I insisted that I will have a beer first. I was then taken to the sofa where I sat and drank my beer.

The mammasan kept bringing girls to me. I finally said yes to a young petite chick to my liking. She had nice natural boobs, and lovely brown nipples.

We bathe together and she gave me a nice BBBJ. Good amount of DFK. She was on top first and then I finished in missionary. She then lied next to me, we cuddled and smooched again before showering.

Loved the experience overall. Paid by card. Damage 450000 with beer.

How are the eastern European girls at Malio? Is their service good and what's the damage? Please let me know want to try them.

Thanks.

KoolGuy85
10-18-25, 15:36
Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.

Jimmy Boy 99
10-18-25, 16:14
Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.Doxycycline Hyclate 100 MG as soon as possible.

Safado70
10-18-25, 16:34
Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.Get HIV PEP. There are clinics in Jakarta.

ArnoldNe
10-19-25, 11:14
Went to Classic Terminal 2 yesterday for the first time. Mammasan was asking me to choose right away but I insisted that I will have a beer first. I was then taken to the sofa where I sat and drank my beer.

How are the eastern European girls at Malio? Is their service good and what's the damage? Please let me know want to try them.

Thanks.There are many there (not as much as the SEA girls OFC) but at least 15-20 on any given day is my guess, I just tried one earlier this year as price barrier is high they cost 3 m a pop and the papi asked for tip for him also but I denied that, girl's performance in the room was alright (she ticked all boxes), but as with any east european girls, emotion wasn't as high as I would have liked, but I got her jumping the bed with a thorough DATY, and banged her hard in Doggy and other usual positions, good thing about them is they can take a hard pounding. I asked the Papi beforehand for DFK and there weren't many CIS girls who did it, but luckily there was 1 of the 15/20 who did and he called her for me, she didn't speak much english and the DFK was also name sake lip kiss only.

Although I prioritized my girl based on service aspect first (not that she was bad to look at), but I saw few stunners around as well.

Make sure you go to the lobby (A restaurant type of place), you can buy a beer while you scope out who you want, communication is through papi/mami only.

Don't go to the dance area on 2nd or 3rd floor, they run the shots scam there, I made that mistake in my first visit.

It is worth trying Malio once or twice for CIS if you like them.

If anybody has taken any SEA girls over there, please update FR (Cost I am aware, but please comment on performance vis a vis more VFM options like Classic/Travel etc.)

Steve 9696
10-19-25, 18:47
Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.

ArnoldNe
10-19-25, 19:56
Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.I don't get why anyone goes the online route in a place where getting real girls is so easy (no offence), but I keep hearing / reading and people asking about this stuff, while girls going independent may sound morally right to some (not sure if that is why people go this route), but not everyone has the right business mindset, most of the girls I have seen online have inflated ego's or at least they like to project the golden pussy syndrome, they don't understand that this business has VFM at its heart and there needs to be a good reason for something to be above market price, unfortunately more and more customers entertain this channel of business (may be they are too shy to go into real places or something) which in turn hikes the prices of otherwise VFM places when they hear about these rates. It is no secret that people have become as greedy as they could be when it comes to money all over the world these days, so they will quote you whatever price they fancy, if you get hooked then it is your loss.

On a positive note, try out a Classic or Travel girl and get her number, they also give company in hotel room outside of their business hours or on their day off, and it is a much more reasonable rate that you will encounter compared to these scammers. The standard rate for a full nighter is 600 to 800 k + whatever tip you deem appropriate but don't go over 1 m mark as much as possible, for the truly exceptional you can settle for 1. 5 m, but still don't make it easy for them to hike the prices or else this is another market that will go down under, good examples to reflect this are Phillipines and Thailand these days where prices are comparable with Western prices.

Steve 9696
10-19-25, 20:33
I don't get why anyone goes the online route in a place where getting real girls is so easy (no offence), but I keep hearing / reading and people asking about this stuff, while girls going independent may sound morally right to some (not sure if that is why people go this route), but not everyone has the right business mindset, most of the girls I have seen online have inflated ego's or at least they like to project the golden pussy syndrome, they don't understand that this business has VFM at its heart and there needs to be a good reason for something to be above market price, unfortunately more and more customers entertain this channel of business (may be they are too shy to go into real places or something) which in turn hikes the prices of otherwise VFM places when they hear about these rates. It is no secret that people have become as greedy as they could be when it comes to money all over the world these days, so they will quote you whatever price they fancy, if you get hooked then it is your loss.

On a positive note, try out a Classic or Travel girl and get her number, they also give company in hotel room outside of their business hours or on their day off, and it is a much more reasonable rate that you will encounter compared to these scammers. The standard rate for a full nighter is 600 to 800 k + whatever tip you deem appropriate but don't go over 1 m mark as much as possible, for the truly exceptional you can settle for 1. 5 m, but still don't make it easy for them to hike the prices or else this is another market that will go down under, good examples to reflect this are Phillipines and Thailand these days where prices are comparable with Western prices.Believe me I love the girl buffet as well. And will be doing Classic first and Emporium second. But I do Seeking a lot worldwide and I've gotten some great GFs there. Because I love full on dinner date and stay the weekend and all that. So I like to mix the two. But yeah the more you look at Jakarta too much GPS with the Seeking girls. I dont see 2M as that far off as thats Emporium pricing and u are together 4+ hours depending on chemistry.

Im not gonna take a Seeking girl first night. Let me pop my Classic cherry and I can always cancel the seeking girl(s) if I fall in love with it.

One other thing I can’t quite follow. I have Classic T5s insta. And they are always posting DJs and a great vibe. But on here it doesn’t sound that way at all. Sounds like u go in and mamasan makes a lineup and u pick a girl. Seems quite at odds with a danceclub vibe. Can someone explain this dichotomy?

Bunky
10-20-25, 00:03
I decided to visit Malio on my first night. . . . Found the 20-year-old girl was very pretty. Flawless. Nice natural boobs and no baby damage. I had a great session with her and tipped her 2.5M. My total bill for the Sprite, room and girl was 1,349,500 or $81 US.Thanks so much to Mr. Rider for his helpful report. One followup please:

The way I read your report, you paid the CLUB about 1.350M for your drink, the room and the standard girl fee PLUS a "tip" of 2.5M to the girl directly.

Is that correct?

ArnoldNe
10-20-25, 07:38
One other thing I cant quite follow. I have Classic T5s insta. And they are always posting DJs and a great vibe. But on here it doesnt sound that way at all. Sounds like u go in and mamasan makes a lineup and u pick a girl. Seems quite at odds with a danceclub vibe. Can someone explain this dichotomy?Quick thoughts on your reply, Emporium charges high as it tries to simulate the high end experience and they do have the infra and the service package that lines up with it, at least there the question is that are you after the girl only or do you want a VIP experience. But a SA girl almost pays nothing for any infrastructure whatsoever so she has 0 costs to pay when it comes to investment other than the time she spends with you (in your hotel, you pay for food, you pay for drinks and any other activities), so by that logic their cost should be lowest of them all, but is it? (there is your answer).

T5 I only went once, mamasans over there aren't as aggressive as T2, but they try to keep it exclusive and don't make it as accessible as T2, my guess of reasons included that they wanted to keep it local crowd centric or for the Japanese / Korean / Chinese crowd but definitely not as open as T2, that being said they don't give you any reservation vibe once you reach there, and music / girl selection are all pretty minimum.

For good english music vibe + some milfy freelance action I thought CJs was the best, I never opted for the action, just scouted the place last time.

Red Rider
10-20-25, 07:38
Sorry. Too many zero's.

250 K ($15).

Steve 9696
10-20-25, 11:46
Sorry. Too many zero's.

250 K ($15).Haha. Yeah looked a bit suss tipping 2 x the price! I was afraid a mob was headed your way to pull your man card!

Offshore Swell
10-20-25, 13:27
Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.There's nothing we can do. You are going to die.

Hope that helps.

Hung Man 1808
10-20-25, 18:55
Quote Originally Posted by KoolGuy85:

Hey guys went back to Classic in the evening and had BBFS with a young petite girl at Terminal 2. It was a heat of the moment thing. Now panicking. What medicine can I take as a precaution? Please help.


There's nothing we can do. You are going to die.

Hope that helps.Better get a Grab Feel while there is still time. A once in a lifetime experience. Especially for you.

Chilli1
10-21-25, 00:13
Royal train track so shady.

Why you like there.

If you in Jakarta.

Go to each place and provide if any unreported new places.

Doubt any other place are cheaper.


Train track royal.

Exactly what I needed after a long break from international travel. I feel totally relaxed. Casually filling up 30+ prosys in mostly royal gedong panjang.

Two in classic, one in kota and 3 in lokasari. Which in everyway IMO are simply inferior. Checked most other popular places as well, like malio, travel, raja mas, all classic floors etc. And honestly I could have done without them. Who needs a godforsaken mami or management drilling them to insist on wrapper or upcharge for that. F that.

Sadly big parts of royal were demolished, the hallway of bareback heaven is gone and replaced with a stupid park which made me sigh a lot and honestly was close to shedding tears. What kind of man or men would devalue such a paradise.

Better lighting, music, estimated capacity for 200 more pale white prosys. History. Just why.

If theres similar places to royal ID love to check them out.

Pasar pisang?

Manggarai station?

Cilincing? The place with the ducks LOL.

Tanahabang station?

I don't have one exact pin of them and would greatly appreciate that.

Bienenstich
10-21-25, 00:44
Royal train track so shady.

Why you like there.

If you in Jakarta.

Go to each place and provide if any unreported new places.

Doubt any other place are cheaper.No upcharge, stress or whatsoever for BBFS. They don't have their stupid dress code or uniforms and choose their clothes they want to wear themselves. Which often results in wearing foot chains and they cringle so good when you do them its awesome. The high heels in classic for comparison I find just horrible. I like small girls and I have a hard time estimating the height of the girl if they wear those stupid things.

I will scout the things I listed and have super scarce info on eventually but this kind of info usually isn't valued on a board where dudes paying millions to fuck a heated rubber bag hang around. Planning to go again early April but things can change.

United1
10-21-25, 10:44
FYI. There is a whole threads on the Seeking in Jakarta. Look for it. Good info.

I have using the Seeking for 3 years now. Ups and the downs.


Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M..

United1
10-21-25, 10:50
How is sagitarius? I read in the Japanese forum its nice and close to hotels in Grand Indonesia. But looks shady from outside.

Does it feel higher end? Or shady.


Sagitarius is near thamrin not a very big setup, I went there last time. Quality of line up wasn't great and on top price is way more than classic and little less than emporium. Also I checked with papi and they clearly told me no BBBJ so I just used their steam sauna pool and left paid entrance fee, no action there. I prefer classic for price and empo for experience and quality. YMMV.

SuperLove
10-21-25, 22:01
Can you share a link.


FYI. There is a whole threads on the Seeking in Jakarta. Look for it. Good info.

I have using the Seeking for 3 years now. Ups and the downs.

Delbo1
10-22-25, 09:52
No upcharge, stress or whatsoever for BBFS. They don't have their stupid dress code or uniforms and choose their clothes they want to wear themselves. Which often results in wearing foot chains and they cringle so good when you do them its awesome. The high heels in classic for comparison I find just horrible. I like small girls and I have a hard time estimating the height of the girl if they wear those stupid things.

I will scout the things I listed and have super scarce info on eventually but this kind of info usually isn't valued on a board where dudes paying millions to fuck a heated rubber bag hang around. Planning to go again early April but things can change.Higher risk of being robbed.

You will get sexually transmitted disease.

The cuties are pumped non stop and all the girls share the same water for cleaning themselves.

Maximus V
10-23-25, 11:21
Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.Steve I have read a few of your reports and I like your style. I have extensive experience in what you are looking for and I can tell you this, do not peg your decision making on the prices at classic. The prices there are a true anomaly, classic is really the last of its kind, as I have explained in the past it's basically free. The best arbitrage scenario you can find in this hobby.

As an example of one of my not so fun interactions on seeking, I had a very nice cutie I was chatting with. I was staying at the Mandarin Oriental (excellent hotel BTW, highly recommended, my bathroom was the size of the entire room I had at Movenpick!) Anyway I tried to make an arrangement with this girl and she wouldn't budge from 5 M IDR, then I found out she worked at Grand Indonesia which is literally directly across the street. So I invited her for lunch at the hotel and told her I would give 3 M if we liked each other and wanted to extend the meeting after lunch. She refused to take 3 M and said she would come for 4 M. All she had to do was walk across the street to make probably more than she makes all week at her mall job and she wouldn't do it. I told her she was being unreasonable and she said she usually gets 5 M for her dates! I wasn't feeling the whole interaction so I said good bye.

Compare and contrast that interaction with my all time favorite cutie from Emporium. I had her meet me on her day off early Sunday morning at the Mandarin. The plan was to have a big breakfast and then we would walk the (car-free) streets until they opened the roads again. Side note if you don't know Sunday the government shuts down maybe 10 k of roads for jogging, walking, biking, running best day to go outside! Anyway after that I had booked us a couples massage, which was excellent. We had lunch, we enjoyed each other's company in the bedroom. Then we saw a movie, went to dinner, back to bedroom, memorable experience. Next morning we had breakfast at the hotel (crazy thing here is that when we walked out of the elevator there was a swat team and soldiers from the army with machine guns all over the lobby and guys in suits with ear pieces, apparently high ranking Vietnamese officials were there.) My cutie and I were both startled we didn't know what the hell was going on! Any way after breakfast we had one last round of fun before she left at noon. I slipped 2. 5 M in her bag, she never asked for any particular amount she only knew I said I would take care of her. While she was in her grab she sent me kissing emojis and thanked me for a wonderful time.

I have had the same types of experiences with seeking girls here but it's a lot of work Usually I stick to my 3 M or below price point especially if the looks and connection are there. Maybe add a little on top if the performance blows me away. I do the meet for coffee or ice cream first to make sure I'm getting what I think I am and to see if there is any spark before committing.

Long story short, classic is not the benchmark it's an anomaly. Great times can be had with seeking girls, or on the days off of girls from classic, emporium, 1001 etc. If the first encounter is good and you want more in the comfort of your hotel get the contact to set up fun for later. A lot of Bro's on this board say they have had no success with take outs. I personally have not had that problem, sometimes I don't even have to ask, the girls will ask me if I want them to come over!

XXL
10-23-25, 15:25
... (crazy thing here is that when we walked out of the elevator there was a swat team and soldiers from the army with machine guns all over the lobby and guys in suits with ear pieces, apparently high ranking Vietnamese officials were there.) ...I have found it nearly impossible to stay at any high-end hotel in Jakarta for more than ten days without having squadrons of military or police all over the place for a couple of days.

ArnoldNe
10-23-25, 16:57
Hello All,

Has anyone here ever picked up anyone from the club scene here, not talking about CJs (aware of the freelancers), but more from clubs like X2, Empirica, Golden Crown, Club 36.

If yes, it would help if you could share some experience, I am not interested in picking up civvies but more the freelancers that roam about in these places.

Please shed some light on the Cost, LT / ST, Service Experience etc.

Thanks.

Steve 9696
10-23-25, 18:10
Thanks Maximus V. It does sound we roll similar. Sent you a PM.

Rocketeer666
10-23-25, 22:25
Not really, there are places in Bogota, for example, I've just been. where BBBj and 30 min sex are 20 dollars, that's around the same price and Latinas really know how to suck dick. Also, the sex in general with Latina pro is much more entertaining than with asians, they leave you with that feeling when your legs are shaking from ecstasy. Just saying, probably many other places around the world are like that.


Steve I have read a few of your reports and I like your style. I have extensive experience in what you are looking for and I can tell you this, do not peg your decision making on the prices at classic. The prices there are a true anomaly, classic is really the last of its kind, as I have explained in the past it's basically free. The best arbitrage scenario you can find in this hobby.

As an example of one of my not so fun interactions on seeking, I had a very nice cutie I was chatting with. I was staying at the Mandarin Oriental (excellent hotel BTW, highly recommended, my bathroom was the size of the entire room I had at Movenpick!) Anyway I tried to make an arrangement with this girl and she wouldn't budge from 5 M IDR, then I found out she worked at Grand Indonesia which is literally directly across the street. So I invited her for lunch at the hotel and told her I would give 3 M if we liked each other and wanted to extend the meeting after lunch. She refused to take 3 M and said she would come for 4 M. All she had to do was walk across the street to make probably more than she makes all week at her mall job and she wouldn't do it. I told her she was being unreasonable and she said she usually gets 5 M for her dates! I wasn't feeling the whole interaction so I said good bye.

Compare and contrast that interaction with my all time favorite cutie from Emporium. I had her meet me on her day off early Sunday morning at the Mandarin. The plan was to have a big breakfast and then we would walk the (car-free) streets until they opened the roads again. Side note if you don't know Sunday the government shuts down maybe 10 k of roads for jogging, walking, biking, running best day to go outside! Anyway after that I had booked us a couples massage, which was excellent. We had lunch, we enjoyed each other's company in the bedroom. Then we saw a movie, went to dinner, back to bedroom, memorable experience. Next morning we had breakfast at the hotel (crazy thing here is that when we walked out of the elevator there was a swat team and soldiers from the army with machine guns all over the lobby and guys in suits with ear pieces, apparently high ranking Vietnamese officials were there.) My cutie and I were both startled we didn't know what the hell was going on! Any way after breakfast we had one last round of fun before she left at noon. I slipped 2. 5 M in her bag, she never asked for any particular amount she only knew I said I would take care of her. While she was in her grab she sent me kissing emojis and thanked me for a wonderful time.

I have had the same types of experiences with seeking girls here but it's a lot of work Usually I stick to my 3 M or below price point especially if the looks and connection are there. Maybe add a little on top if the performance blows me away. I do the meet for coffee or ice cream first to make sure I'm getting what I think I am and to see if there is any spark before committing.

Long story short, classic is not the benchmark it's an anomaly. Great times can be had with seeking girls, or on the days off of girls from classic, emporium, 1001 etc. If the first encounter is good and you want more in the comfort of your hotel get the contact to set up fun for later. A lot of Bro's on this board say they have had no success with take outs. I personally have not had that problem, sometimes I don't even have to ask, the girls will ask me if I want them to come over!

LoveItHere69
10-24-25, 04:34
Long story short, classic is not the benchmark it's an anomaly. Great times can be had with seeking girls, or on the days off of girls from classic, emporium, 1001 etc. If the first encounter is good and you want more in the comfort of your hotel get the contact to set up fun for later. A lot of Bro's on this board say they have had no success with take outs. I personally have not had that problem, sometimes I don't even have to ask, the girls will ask me if I want them to come over!Success for a guy in his 30's versus a guy in his 50's is vastly different.

Success getting the young spinner out who has tons of options versus the older chubbier girl is also vastly different.

No way to compare since your hot girl may be my ugly girl.

SuperLove
10-24-25, 06:12
Dear maxim, IMHO you mentioned mandarin oriental and therefore she went north in her asking. Some girls are greedy and unrealistic in their asking truly. Like I had this girl she asked me for 4 mn too and wouldn't budge so I dropped her, my threshold is 3 mn overnight. I have a steady girl for 2 mio for the whole day and we always have a wonderful time. Once I called an emporium girl to movenpick, she came and delivered with a smile, no problems and then I took her to bali in my next trip. There are tons of girls on seeking in all shapes and sizes, just hope you swipe right to the correct one, what's better is some of them are more horny than you are. Yes classic cannot be compared at all, must visit purely for its experience. And once you are regular to places like emporium and seeking its difficult to go back to classic. And for that reason I tell all my friends and punters out here to visit classic before they hit emporium and 1001. As far as 2.5 mn payment to the emporium girl is concerned you treated her very well, sometimes experience and respect trumps money, some girls are intelligent enough to understand that.


Steve I have read a few of your reports and I like your style. I have extensive experience in what you are looking for and I can tell you this, do not peg your decision making on the prices at classic. The prices there are a true anomaly, classic is really the last of its kind, as I have explained in the past it's basically free. The best arbitrage scenario you can find in this hobby.

As an example of one of my not so fun interactions on seeking, I had a very nice cutie I was chatting with. I was staying at the Mandarin Oriental (excellent hotel BTW, highly recommended, my bathroom was the size of the entire room I had at Movenpick!) Anyway I tried to make an arrangement with this girl and she wouldn't budge from 5 M IDR, then I found out she worked at Grand Indonesia which is literally directly across the street. So I invited her for lunch at the hotel and told her I would give 3 M if we liked each other and wanted to extend the meeting after lunch. She refused to take 3 M and said she would come for 4 M. All she had to do was walk across the street to make probably more than she makes all week at her mall job and she wouldn't do it. I told her she was being unreasonable and she said she usually gets 5 M for her dates! I wasn't feeling the whole interaction so I said good bye.

Vendelo
10-24-25, 11:02
Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.I'm in Jakarta as I type this.

I've been to Emporium and Classic. I had an EMP.

Girl from EMP come to my room at Luminor after work for a sleep over. Cost me $1.5. Last.

Night I took a Classic girl back to my hotel. It cost me $2. The mamasan calc'd that number basing $375 K times 6 hours.

I've also had a Seeking girl ask for $9 million per meeting. And a Tinder girl asking $3 for ST.

Paolo99
10-24-25, 12:48
Second trip in this city.

I wanted to check more places this time, but felt lazy and been a bit hooked by Classic's ambiance, so almost exclusively went to Classic (T2 and T5), Travel and once in Kota Indah during my last Week.

13 different girls, 2 of them that I have sessionned 3 times each (both from T5) and one that I could repeat only once (in T2).

I've checked to compare with my last trip but this time I've met only 2 girls with a tight pussy (one in T5 who seemed to be working there for a Week only, and another in T2 who was working for only 2 days). One other girl had a pussy with a good grip that felt good, but every other girls had what I would call an originally tight pussy that had probably been stretched by too many fucks for a long period, which is exactly the kind of girls I would ideally want to avoid.

Terminal 5.

It is where I took most of the girls, 7 girls.

3 of them were great (I repeated only 2 of them because the last one was available only the nights I could see many other girls that I would want to check out, and she was busy the other nights where I would have gladly chosen her again). One was a disaster (Sakit Sakit after only 5 to 10 minutes, though her pussy wasn't even tight. That b[Deleted by Admin] is skinny, white skinned and seats on the backgrounds seats usually, and goes by the name Monic. If you meet her, tell her to fuck off once you hear her name, she is totally worthless). 3 others were soso mostly because they've been overfucked though 2 of them had a great body.

In the first Week, after 35 minutes, the phone rang. The girl answers, Watch me with a sad face and said time finish. I said no, we still have 25 minutes (I already knew about the new time limits). She puts the towel on, goes and asks the guys, comes back and says yes, time finish. I said wait we do 5 minutes more. These 5 minutes easily turned to 10 or 15 minutes, with me pulling her hairs in doggy, slapping her ass, her saying yeah, yeah harder. When we finished, the phone rang a second time. I thought she's going to tell me to hurry, but no. She says shower, and start washing me so slowly and telling me how much she doesn't like these boys. It took a good 5 to 10 minutes just for the wash, I was laughing my ass at that girl's personality. When we were getting dressed, the phone rang a third time and they told her she's going to get fined, that's the moment she got the hint and we got out of there ASAP.

The only problem I had with T5 is sometimes, the mamas will quickly bring me a girl I like, that I could not refuse her and thus I don' have the time to quietly sip my drink there on occasions, and I was kind of forced to take the girl to the room not long after getting in the club.

Terminal 2.

4 girls in total only, and the first one was a girl that I recognised from my last trip and took her out of friendlyness only (of course, she didn't remember me, but was a nice girl). That first session was less interresting than the one I had with her a few months ago so no repeat.

I've been going to T2 almost daily (after 8 H30 pm) and very quickly thought the place sucks very much now. Couldn't find a girl I want to session everytime, with just two or three that I liked the looks but were having obvious attitude problems.

The place sucked so much to catch a girl (I still liked the ambiance though) that each time I was going there I had no hope of finding someone, and as one has to pay the 35 K if you Don't fuck a girl, I took it as an Opportunity to just go there sip my drink, Watch the jungle in front of me and then head to T5 were I knew I would probably find Something I want to bang.

I still found three excellent girls though (one 19, one 18 and one 20). These three were luckily brought to me by some mamas while I never saw them in the club each time I was looking by myself. I've met the two last girls during my last week only, so I could repeat once the 18 years old girl only.

My best fuck there was the last one, sadly I couldn't repeat her as I met her Friday and left Jakarta the next Monday. Couldn't see her on the weekend (BTW, Saturday and Sunday usually sucks in my experience in Classic). A 20 year old girl, really new, with the tightest pussy I've met in Indonesia. When we get in the room, the first thing she told me was how terrified she was, but in a good way, she was still excited unlike the dick scared girls. The size was also her concern, but when she was sitting undressed on the bed before the shower, I came in front of her and showed her there's Nothing to fear about, she quickly took it in her mouth and gave a great BBBJ for 10 minutes. Then she says mandi, once she got up I checked her pussy, her juice was drilling, there was no way I sent her to shower before tasting her. Long story short, the shower only occured in the end of the session, after I face fucked her, slapped her tongue with my dick, slapped her ass and fucked her in mish. Very fun and receptive girl she was, and yet I did hesitate a bit before picking her up.

Travel.

Been there once very early in my trip, because I like the place.

One mama comes to me after I took a long time to Watch every one, I tell her I like slim, she goes to bring one girl, but the girl makes it so obvious she doesn't want me that we all laughed our ass at the situation. Mama asks again you like her? I said yes I like her, so she goes and tries to persuade the girl to come for minutes. Finally the girl comes and I didn't want to reject her after she finally came to me. Problem was obvious, she was a dick scared girl. She tried to check my size, I told her I'll do it very slowly, hopping that things whoud go fine in the room. She finally agreed to come, but the session was very poor. Service was very limited, she wanted to cover for BJ but I skipped it, she gave a good ball licking though, no finger in her pussy, no DATY, no kiss. I went in mish only with her, it's a shame because she had a great body, especially her ass. Went there again a second time after my visit to Sari Ayu just to check the talent, saw some lookers there but I was concerned about the service so didn't sessioned the place anymore.

Payment method in Classic and Travel.

In all these places, whenever mama asked to pay, I told her I'm going to sign instead (when you sign the piece of paper, you pay all at once at the cashier before exiting the club).

Three advantages: First she understands you're not a newbie, secondly she can't grab a tip from your payment. Thirdly, you Don't get your stash of cash out in front of the girl.

Kota Indah. Sari Ayu.

First time that I went to the Kota Indah street, and only went there because I felt bored of seeing the same girls in Classic over and over again.

Checked only Sari Ayu around 8 h30 pm. Very few customers in (mostly Chinese), around 30 or 40 girls. The problem is, the place is dark, All the girls were wearing the same long dress that doesn't reveal their body, and all of them were seated.

Still I felt the place looks interresting and I quickly spotted a girl that I thought was looking attractive. I sat on the sofa, ordered a soft drink thinking that I'll take my time watching her and every body else. Mama checked upon me two times already, asking if I want someone (no pressure felt, it was good Customer service in my opinion).

2 minutes later, a Chinese guy came from behind (where the bartenders are located), looked all the girls and quickly went to the only girl I was liking, and took her straight to the room. I've been very unluncky because when she got up, she looked really nice.

I finally chose another girl just for the sack of checking up the place, and she looked very happy too. Paid 400 to the counter (they came and asked me to pay the soft drink separately before, cheap, 34 K for a can of Coke) and up to the room. The girl was very friendly and smiley but once she undressed she didn't look great, flat ass, saggy tits, a bit of a tummy and possibly baby damage. It was already a turn off.

Second turn off was when she didn't want to shower, she finally went to wash her pussy only.

We laid on the bed, she goes for the BBBJ, I check her pussy and ass, brings my finger back and realise it stinks a lot. This was the last straw for me, so no DATY, no DFK too from my part. Finally did her in mish only, and she was not that bad, but the stinking pussies are not for me really (BTW, that's the first stinking pussy I've met in Indo).

I finished the session 30 minutes early but didn't left, just sat there and had some talks with her as she was a very friendly girl.

Left the place around 11 Pm, much more lively with many customers in (seemed to be locals). Mama was outside, thanked me and said good bye so every one seems to be welcomed in there.

Mamas.

I managed them perfectly in T2 and mismanaged one of them in T5.

In T2 in the beginning they would all jump on me like they do with everyone but I would say no and reject them each time. Whenever a girl tried to hold on me, I would say no and be firm, same goes with the mamas. One of them tried to forcefully grab my arm once, I had to show her in an obvious manner that it's not my thing. Whenever one of them would approach me and ask ladies? I would say no invariably, and they quickly got the hint. So much that after a few days, I would enter the place, a pack of ten mamas standing in front of the door, none of them move a finger to try and get my attention. I was then left free roaming everywhere I want in the place, nobody would come and annoy me. I would sit wherever I want, look any girl I want, go straight to the waitress when I want my drink and would feel as much at home as these mamas are feeling. Yet they still come from time to time and bring their hidden girls, and that's how I've met the 3 great girls there.

T5 is a bit different because mamas are quick to use their laser pointer and the girls are feeling obligated to come over. And if you go in T5 often, you'll know almost most of the girls who are working there, there's no girls hidden somewhere that you've never seen before.

I took two girls from one of the mamas managing the girls seated in the front on two occasions. Both had a good body, looked quite good, but in the room, either they were lazy, tired or overused which made the session being soso.

Then each time I would get in, that mama would jump on me as if I'm her special prize, would bring me to a table and try to push me taking only a girl from her crew. At that point I dumbly felt in some friendlyness stuff with her, and took another of her girls after she told me the girl is new (2 weeks). Turned out she was maybe new in T5, but overused like all her other girls.

That was the last time she saw my money, because after that session, I felt like I'm forced to chose a girl from a small portion of the available girls, and dismiss every other girls. So in my next visits, each time she jumped on me, I still shaked her hand, went to the table, talked a bit but never took any of her girls again, and said I'm going to go and see the girls seated in the backstage. Luckily that's were my two best girls from T5 were seated.

My advice, Don't fall on any kind of friendlyness with these mamas. They are only sales person, and will tell you anything you want to hear in order to seal the deal (Young girl, no baby, new girl blablabla).

They Don't even know the name of many of their girls, so how would they really know the things that matters for us?

By the way, all my sessions were covered FS, I wouldn't want to go uncovered in these places.

Transportation.

From airport to town.

I thought I had the good stuff by going to the dedicated grab waiting area outside the airport. I arrived late in the evening, and apparently many other people were in the same case. 15 people fully loaded with their luggages waiting there (many of them being locals), I tried for 15 minutes but nobody would pick my ride, even when trying to get the expensive ones.

So I quickly came back to the grab Premium boot (the first grab boot that we see after exiting the airport), the guy connected me to a driver that was already waiting there and I quickly left in the vip car. Price paid with tolls, was 255 K (normal grab was around 150 K without tolls). Last trip I took the Bluebird VIP (the first boot when exiting the airport) and paid 288 K, so Grab Premium is a bit cheaper, I'll stick to this one (or the equivalent one from Gojek, just meters away).

In town.

I used the Grab car once, when I moved from my hotel in Gajah Mada to Wahid Asyim, and it took me more than an hour at one pm on a weekday. I never took another car anymore after that experience.

Motorbike.

I took a simcard (150 K for 1 month, 8 Go) in the Telkom boot in the airport just to be able to open the Gojek application.

But I've been lazy to do it, so I used Grab cash for a long time, until I felt annoyed to keep a big stash of small notes just for these guys. So I set the Gojek app (very quick and easy to do BTW), but I've been surprised to see it's 30% more expensive than Grab on most of my trips (There is the Grab Hemat option, while Gojek does not have an Hemat option), so I very rarely used Gojek in the end.

A few months ago, I've read some posts saying Grab cashless sucks and doesn't work great, and that's the Reason I even didn't check it myself. But then I took the time to link my card with the Grab app and it worked instantly and seamlessly. Never had any payment problems with it, and I'll stick to it for my future trips (I use the wize card). There's a difference of price when you go cashless with Grab, for a fare of 9 K by cash, it will become 9200 or 9300 by credit card.

From town to airport.

I initially booked a Grab car, but the guy that took the fare was far. After 25 minutes he was still very far although it should have taken him only 11 minutes total, so I cancelled the sucker (there's a 3 K fee to cancel), but there was very few grab cars available.

So I checked Gojek and took Gojek instead, the guy came quickly and everything went fine.

So it's a good thing to keep these two apps fully working, when one is not available, you can still use the other one.

Offshore Swell
10-24-25, 12:50
Hello All,

Has anyone here ever picked up anyone from the club scene here, not talking about CJs (aware of the freelancers), but more from clubs like X2, Empirica, Golden Crown, Club 36.

If yes, it would help if you could share some experience, I am not interested in picking up civvies but more the freelancers that roam about in these places.

Please shed some light on the Cost, LT / ST, Service Experience etc.

Thanks.Yes, you will find what you are after in the clubs, but beware that some of the freelancers can be a little hard bitten. IE, you buy the biscuits, you buy the drinks, often for her and her friend and then there is the risk they blow you off at the end in a very calculated way. OS even had one lovely girl who had the audacity to ask for taxi money to get her and her friend home after OS had bought her all of the above. Golden Crown used to have a few old boilers that would lock onto any bule that stuck his head in the door. OS mistakenly took one back to his hotel but she turned out to just be a junkie, that is one of the risks. But then there are the genuine girls who just want a night out. Dress well, don't act desperate like you need to pick up and enjoy the club. The rest may well fall into place. Jakarta clubs are up there with the best. Accessories you get from the wait staff.

ArnoldNe
10-24-25, 16:27
Yes, you will find what you are after in the clubs, but beware that some of the freelancers can be a little hard bitten. IE, you buy the biscuits, you buy the drinks, often for her and her friend and then there is the risk they blow you off at the end in a very calculated way. OS even had one lovely girl who had the audacity to ask for taxi money to get her and her friend home after OS had bought her all of the above. Golden Crown used to have a few old boilers that would lock onto any bule that stuck his head in the door. OS mistakenly took one back to his hotel but she turned out to just be a junkie, that is one of the risks. But then there are the genuine girls who just want a night out. Dress well, don't act desperate like you need to pick up and enjoy the club. The rest may well fall into place. Jakarta clubs are up there with the best. Accessories you get from the wait staff.Thanks for the reply OS, from your conversation I gather to be wary of scams, and doing a little bit of swimming before catching the fish. Although I ruled CJ out, girl / woman in there was straightforward with her Long Stay / Short time offer, I was not interested in her, but offered her a cig and clarified upfront that I am just there for a drink, she was happy to share details of the offer which is what I wanted from there. I assumed in other clubs also freelancers would be clear about their offering, I am not one to be interested in the dance, I like some small talk and then talking about the offer with the girl straight away. I will try few of these places just for fun, if I get a straight answer that fits my bill fine, else I will be out of the door.

I have some contacts from my last visit, which were reasonable (classic girls), will refresh my memories with them if needed.

ArnoldNe
10-24-25, 16:37
I'm in Jakarta as I type this.

I've been to Emporium and Classic. I had an EMP.

Girl from EMP come to my room at Luminor after work for a sleep over. Cost me $1.5. Last.

Night I took a Classic girl back to my hotel. It cost me $2. The mamasan calc'd that number basing $375 K times 6 hours.

I've also had a Seeking girl ask for $9 million per meeting. And a Tinder girl asking $3 for ST.Brother,

My 2 cents, never talk about full nighter with the Mama / Papa, take the girl's number in the room if she is to your liking and you built a rapport with her, most of them do go out in their off timings for earning the extra buck, I have been offered 1 m, 2 m, going rate is 700-800 k + Tips.

Plant Smoke
10-24-25, 19:28
There are many there (not as much as the SEA girls OFC) but at least 15-20 on any given day is my guess, I just tried one earlier this year as price barrier is high they cost 3 m a pop and the papi asked for tip for him also but I denied that, girl's performance in the room was alright (she ticked all boxes), but as with any east european girls, emotion wasn't as high as I would have liked, but I got her jumping the bed with a thorough DATY, and banged her hard in Doggy and other usual positions, good thing about them is they can take a hard pounding. I asked the Papi beforehand for DFK and there weren't many CIS girls who did it, but luckily there was 1 of the 15/20 who did and he called her for me, she didn't speak much english and the DFK was also name sake lip kiss only.

Although I prioritized my girl based on service aspect first (not that she was bad to look at), but I saw few stunners around as well.The architecture of the Malio building has never ever been described on this board. I was there for the first time and was confused. The first entrance (closest to gajah mada).

Has a first floor that includes the lobby and a non-hooker spa (Apparently a "family spa"). To get to the lounge with the hookers you have to take the elevator to the second floor.

Now the second entrance, further from gajah mada then the first entrance, leads right into the lounge with the hookers. This is because the second entrance is at a higher elevation than.

The first entrance, and IS the second floor. To make this happen I am guessing that both entrances share the same elevator, the same elevator shaft?

A "restaurant type of place" in the lobby with girls? I never found it. Who on this board can specifically, once and for all, after all these years, describe, in a coherent fashion, where the.

Girls are in Malioboro Hotel? Additionally, I think, Malioboro and Malio are the same god-damn name. They are not two separate buildings, and they are not two separate bars! Sheesh!

Argo1990
10-24-25, 21:37
Will land in Jakarta on the 28th. If anyone is down exploring some of the more seedy locations like the railway working girls and Tenda Biru Nona in Bekasi I would be very interested in that. Generally speaking I prefer to find young decent looking meat from cheaper venues and then offer them 1. 5- 2 mil for a full 24 hours and just fuck then senseless rather than going to a place where a stunner might work but demand 1 mil per hour.

Which doesn't mean I won't check those places out but probably smarter to fuck a slightly above average chick raw 3-4 times a day and shooting videos rather than having a 1 mil starfish LOL.

Vendelo
10-25-25, 01:38
Brother,

My 2 cents, never talk about full nighter with the Mama / Papa, take the girl's number in the room if she is to your liking and you built a rapport with her, most of them do go out in their off timings for earning the extra buck, I have been offered 1 m, 2 m, going rate is 700-800 k + Tips.Thanks for taking the time to provide advice. Much appreciated!

Chilli1
10-25-25, 01:59
https://maps.app.goo.gl/z1yr5vRqErpgjiQ1A

Anyone know about this.

Some Indo guys should know?

If you see Google reviews, some have open profiles.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6QtXwaJ8E35NfNBY9

https://maps.app.goo.gl/SqdiDZJfyRWtAdhg7

Axel Heyst
10-25-25, 02:43
MALIOBORO Lounge: "The first entrance (closest to gajah mada) Has a first floor that includes the lobby and a non-hooker spa (Apparently a "family spa" To get to the lounge with the hookers you have to take the elevator to the second floor. ".

MALIO Club: "Now the second entrance, further from gajah mada then the first entrance, leads right into the lounge with the hookers.

MALIOBORO (1ST DOOR) 2ND FLOOR, HAS MEZZANINE.

MALIO (2ND DOOR) IS ON THE GROUND FLOOR!

There are 2 elevators. To walk from Malio Club to Malioboro Lounge INSIDE THE BUILDING one has to take the Malio elevator to the 3rd floor wander down the long hotel hallway until reaching the Malio elevator and fancy stairwell at the other side of the building. Malioboro is a flight down and its mezzanine level overlooks a large open area filled with couches, mamasans, and couch girls.[/QUOTE]Yes it has, but never mind. Read my description above.

Maximus V
10-25-25, 06:26
Success for a guy in his 30's versus a guy in his 50's is vastly different.

Success getting the young spinner out who has tons of options versus the older chubbier girl is also vastly different.

No way to compare since your hot girl may be my ugly girl.Brother Love, yes it's actually easy to compare. I don't fly half way around the world and battle terrible jet lag for 3 days to lay with chubby girls or stray dogs (girls) by train tracks! I endure these inconveniences to get the best quality spinner that I can find. So if similar quality girls in my home city are between 600-800 USD and I can find the same caliber of girls here for 100-200 USD equivalent. Then the trip was well worth it. Just as 5 star hotels here are the equivalent cost of low budget hotels in my home city. It's all relative and I do appreciate value.

CodeName47
10-25-25, 10:55
Not sure what happened. The quality of girls in Classic went down. Girls I chatted are asking a minimum 2 million now for Short time. Market seems to be ruined or all of a sudden all punters got rich while I am still yet to step up. Or inflation causing it?

And a few wanted to meet in shopping mall first to do shopping first. Well its either hotel lobby or restaurant at the hotel. I wouldn't budge.

Plant Smoke
10-25-25, 11:21
MALIOBORO Lounge: "The first entrance (closest to gajah mada) Has a first floor that includes the lobby and a non-hooker spa (Apparently a "family spa" To get to the lounge with the hookers you have to take the elevator to the second floor."

MALIO Club: "Now the second entrance, further from gajah mada then the first entrance, leads right into the lounge with the hookers.

MALIOBORO (1ST DOOR) 2ND floor, HAS MEZZANINE.

MALIO (2ND DOOR) IS ON THE GROUND FLOOR!

There are 2 elevators. To walk from Malio Club to Malioboro Lounge INSIDE THE BUILDING one has to take the Malio elevator to the 3rd floor wander down the long hotel hallway until reaching the Malio elevator and fancy stairwell at the other side of the building. Malioboro is a flight down and its mezzanine level overlooks a large open area filled with couches, mamasans, and couch girls. Yes it has, but never mind. Read my description above.

Ok I'm either an idiot, or your explanation failed to hit the mark. Did you read your post Axel Rose?. You said "take the malio elevator to the 3rd floor, wander down the long hotel hallway until reaching the malio elevator."

Ok so there are TWO Malio elevators and no Malioboro elevators? OK forget it, ill subpoena the architectural drawings from the Malioboro Hotel. Note I only saw one hooker bar there, ther circular "lounge" with DJ pit in the center.

Axel Heyst
10-25-25, 12:19
there are 2 elevators. To walk from malio club to malioboro lounge inside the building one has to take the malio elevator to the 3rd floor wander down the long hotel hallway until reaching the malioboro elevator and fancy stairwell at the other side of the building. Malioboro lounge is a flight down and its mezzanine level overlooks a large open area filled with couches, mamasans, and couch girls. Sorry for the dumb error in my original post.

ArnoldNe
10-25-25, 18:18
A "restaurant type of place" in the lobby with girls? I never found it. Who on this board can specifically, once and for all, after all these years, describe, in a coherent fashion, where the.

Girls are in Malioboro Hotel? Additionally, I think, Malioboro and Malio are the same god-damn name. They are not two separate buildings, and they are not two separate bars! Sheesh!I agree it is a confusing sort of a place and yes, the strip club is in another building (adjacent and connected to the main entrance building), for ease of understanding I will describe my 2 visits in a short summary:

1. I went to the strip club area, which is on a higher floor in adjacent building, there are guards on each floor they guide you. One may not find it himself in 2-3 visits also, but this place is not ideal for the action unless you want to kill some time, but the shots girls surround you very quickly over there and as soon as you stop the shots they disappear. I saw some japanese guys coddling a stunner CIS chick and I had half a mind to take her but she was busy and vanished in a lift with them. Girls over here also go to rooms but they are expensive.

2. In my second visit the reception people suggested me to go to the lounge (I was not sure if they were talking about the above or something else but to my pleasant surprise it was a different floor (2nd or 1st I don't recollect, but you tell them Lounge and you will be guided to the right place)., I just went back for that CIS chick otherwise I had written off Malio. They also call it the lounge officially, but the place has a restaurant+bar like setup with regular height tables / chairs and all. Upon entry girls are on the left side, upfront are the CIS girls, and then there are the Viet and other SEA chicks past them.

I think Malio and Malioboro are the same, first one is just the short name.

NoGermaphobe
10-26-25, 03:41
Jakarta, KOMPAS.com - Gang Royal, a prostitution area located between Penjaringan, North Jakarta, and Tambora, West Jakarta, will soon be just a memory. The West Jakarta Civil Service Police Unit dismantled 35 illegal buildings in the Gang Royal area on Thursday (16/10/2025). The Head of the West Jakarta Public Order Agency (Satpol PP), Agus Irwanto, said the operation was carried out after receiving a report from PT Kereta Api Indonesia (KAI) regarding illegal activities on the company's land. "This is a follow-up to PT KAI's letter of request regarding the presence of illegal buildings and illegal activities in the PT KAI area," said Agus at the location.

The demolition was carried out after the Public Order Agency (Satpol PP) repeatedly issued warnings and appeals to residents occupying the illegal building.

Behind the demolition, Gang Royal left behind many stories about the residents, sex workers, and the economic cycle that once took place within it. Before it was demolished, the atmosphere at Gang Royal on the West Jakarta side was never quiet every night. A row of illegal buildings stands close together on the side of the railway tracks, from the outside it looks like a simple coffee shop. However, inside there are small rooms for guests and commercial sex workers (CSWs).

"Before it was demolished yesterday, their activities were at night, at 9:00 PM WIB. They played on top (of the illegal building)," said Dedi (not his real name, 62), a local resident, Friday (10/17/2025). Guests came one after another, mostly from among the drivers and crew members (ABK). In contrast to the image of other localizations which are bustling with dangdut music, Gang Royal chooses to remain silent. There is no thumping music and colorful lights while Gang Royal is operating. Everything was kept quiet so as not to attract the attention of the Satpol PP.

https://megapolitan.kompas.com/read/2025/10/18/07580181/sisa-cerita-dari-gang-royal-kawasan-prostitusi-yang-akan-tinggal-kenangan

GentileBear
10-26-25, 04:07
There is also similar named hotels in Jakarta that got me all mixed up and confused. My Taxi took me to the wrong hotel. Or it was my mistake. It was 50/50 chance to get it right.

Hotel Mulia.

Hotel (Gran) Melia.

One has ladies downstairs for takeout one doesn't.

Amadeuss
10-26-25, 10:03
Jakarta, KOMPAS.com - Gang Royal, a prostitution area located between Penjaringan, North Jakarta, and Tambora, West Jakarta, will soon be just a memory. The West Jakarta Civil Service Police Unit dismantled 35 illegal buildings in the Gang Royal area on Thursday (16/10/2025). Sad, but true. Other areas were demolished before and rebuild. Would be interesting where the 1000+ girls are moving to?

Vendelo
10-26-25, 16:21
Not sure what happened. The quality of girls in Classic went down. Girls I chatted are asking a minimum 2 million now for Short time. Market seems to be ruined or all of a sudden all punters got rich while I am still yet to step up. Or inflation causing it?

And a few wanted to meet in shopping mall first to do shopping first. Well its either hotel lobby or restaurant at the hotel. I wouldn't budge.I am in Jakarta as I type this.

Classic is still 375 K and 500 K for one girl /60 min and two girls /60.

Min, respectively.

T5 on a Th night at 11 pm was packed with Chinese, Japanese. They're the assholes causing inflation.

Joes22
10-26-25, 18:35
I am in Jakarta as I type this.

Classic is still 375 K and 500 K for one girl /60 min and two girls /60.

Min, respectively.

T5 on a Th night at 11 pm was packed with Chinese, Japanese. They're the assholes causing inflation.Have you been to T1? It's strange, but little is said about T1. It's not bad, though, and a bit quieter than 2 and 3. I've been there a few times. The rooms are very nice, and the women were nice too. The mamasan usually ignore you and only come when you want them to. Which is a bit strange and might keep foreigners away. A local pays 400, a foreigner 600.

ArnoldNe
10-26-25, 20:06
I am in Jakarta as I type this.

Classic is still 375 K and 500 K for one girl /60 min and two girls /60.

Min, respectively.

T5 on a Th night at 11 pm was packed with Chinese, Japanese. They're the assholes causing inflation.Last I checked it was 365 and 500 k right?

Did 365 change to 375, not a big difference but just checking.

Safado70
10-26-25, 21:24
I am in Jakarta as I type this.

Classic is still 375 K and 500 K for one girl /60 min and two girls /60.

Min, respectively.

T5 on a Th night at 11 pm was packed with Chinese, Japanese. They're the ones causing inflation.What makes you think that? Just their sheer number? You cannot blame them for that.

Argo1990
10-26-25, 21:56
What makes you think that? Just their sheer number? You cannot blame them for that.This is a bit of a rookie question (no offense). Look at the philippines or thailand, Cambodia etc. . Chinese, Korean and Japanese are known to drive prices up since they have a very different way of approaching mongering than lets say Europeans (fewer leave days from work + cheaper flights for instance result in them using the same budget for much fewer days aka 1 week millionairs etc. However its not exclusive to east asian customers to overpay, americans also do so often because they think its such an amazing deal to have sex with someone and pay 6 months of local rent for that).

Argo1990
10-26-25, 22:20
Lots of girls on Seeking but man there is so much variance in pricing. They are all over the map.

I'm using 400 K at classic and 2 M at emporium /1001 as reference points.

Some girls are patently insane wanting 5-10 M. I had one come down to 4 M. But would not budge and I kicked her to the curb. Just seems morally wrong to pay that in Jakarta. She's a real hottie and great chat. But 4 M? Am I off base here?

I have two very hot girls signed up at 1. 5 and 2 M. That seems fair. One wouldn't budge below 3 M but I told her ok to just keep her warm. Will prob take the 1. 5 and / or 2 M girls instead. Not that I can't afford it. It just bugs me girls are getting 400 K at classic and then these girls are charging 3-4 M.

Oh and one quite plain 30 year old who I thought at least might be good in bed and cheap. She scoffed at 1.5M and said I can get a bar girl for that. OK. Thats what I will do!!!

I'the be interested in your thoughts on this.These Seeking prices are for ST? I will never understand why one would pay the price of 5 pussies for 1.

Argo1990
10-26-25, 22:30
Train track royal.

Exactly what I needed after a long break from international travel. I feel totally relaxed. Casually filling up 30+ prosys in mostly royal gedong panjang.

Two in classic, one in kota and 3 in lokasari. Which in everyway IMO are simply inferior. Checked most other popular places as well, like malio, travel, raja mas, all classic floors etc. And honestly I could have done without them. Who needs a godforsaken mami or management drilling them to insist on wrapper or upcharge for that. F that.

Sadly big parts of royal were demolished, the hallway of bareback heaven is gone and replaced with a stupid park which made me sigh a lot and honestly was close to shedding tears. What kind of man or men would devalue such a paradise.

Better lighting, music, estimated capacity for 200 more pale white prosys. History. Just why.

If theres similar places to royal ID love to check them out.

Pasar pisang?

Manggarai station?

Cilincing? The place with the ducks LOL.

Tanahabang station?

I don't have one exact pin of them and would greatly appreciate that.Please do you have some more information on Royale? Where on google maps do I look for it and what time is it best to go there? (I prefer to go earlier if possible) how much are the going rates for BBFS 1 hour?

Amadeuss
10-26-25, 23:10
Please do you have some more information on Royale? Where on google maps do I look for it and what time is it best to go there? (I prefer to go earlier if possible) how much are the going rates for BBFS 1 hour?You are too late. Read report #21588.

Royale is history.

Steve 9696
10-27-25, 00:52
These Seeking prices are for ST? I will never understand why one would pay the price of 5 pussies for 1.If you just want to fuck a pretty girl then Seeking is a total waste of time. If you want to find a girl who's not a pros pro and can really deliver a "real date with a girlfriend" experience then Seeking is the place. Sure there are lots of pros looking for a quick hit. But you can also get a completely different experience if done right. You can get what feels like a true girlfriend and real chemistry. I've done Seeking more than 50 times in six different countries and it's takes a bunch of work but when you hit the gem it's worth every penny. Because you truly like her. I know this is a foreign concept to those that just want to go fuck (and I like that too).

So in answer to your time question, no it's not really a short time price. We will go to dinner. We may bounce to a rooftop bar. We will go back to the room. The "date" will likely be 4-5 hours but could easily last overnight at her discretion. It's kinda like a real date if done right. A girl I really like I will spend a few days with or fly somewhere. I always give them the same amount regardless of time spent together. So it could be 2 M for 4-5 hrs (same as ST at Emporium) or it could be 2 M for the night. Or it could be 2 M for 24 hrs.

Again I know this isn't for everyone and if just want to fuck a pretty girl you can do it for a lot less. But if you want a "girlfriend" for the evening or overnight or a trip, Seeking has delivered time and time again.

That said I will also go to Classic and Emporium. The girl buffet has its allures.

Safado70
10-27-25, 01:20
This is a bit of a rookie question (no offense). Look at the philippines or thailand, Cambodia etc. . Chinese, Korean and Japanese are known to drive prices up since they have a very different way of approaching mongering than lets say Europeans (fewer leave days from work + cheaper flights for instance result in them using the same budget for much fewer days aka 1 week millionairs etc. However its not exclusive to east asian customers to overpay, americans also do so often because they think its such an amazing deal to have sex with someone and pay 6 months of local rent for that).Just because Koreans in Thailand do something doesn't mean Taiwanese guys in Jakarta do the same thing. I have heard that Taiwanese guys in Jakarta are stingy, usually tipping very little.

FernandoAlonso
10-27-25, 03:00
Last I checked it was 365 and 500 k right?

Did 365 change to 375, not a big difference but just checking.No it is 365 plus 5 k entry.

Vendelo
10-27-25, 04:32
Have you been to T1? It's strange, but little is said about T1. It's not bad, though, and a bit quieter than 2 and 3. I've been there a few times. The rooms are very nice, and the women were nice too. The mamasan usually ignore you and only come when you want them to. Which is a bit strange and might keep foreigners away. A local pays 400, a foreigner 600.I have not heard of T1. Am I correct to presume it is on Floor 1?

Vendelo
10-27-25, 04:41
If you just want to fuck a pretty girl then Seeking is a total waste of time. If you want to find a girl who's not a pros pro and can really deliver a "real date with a girlfriend" experience then Seeking is the place. Sure there are lots of pros looking for a quick hit. But you can also get a completely different experience if done right. You can get what feels like a true girlfriend and real chemistry. I've done Seeking more than 50 times in six different countries and it's takes a bunch of work but when you hit the gem it's worth every penny. Because you truly like her. I know this is a foreign concept to those that just want to go fuck (and I like that too).

So in answer to your time question, no it's not really a short time price. We will go to dinner. We may bounce to a rooftop bar. We will go back to the room. The "date" will likely be 4-5 hours but could easily last overnight at her discretion. It's kinda like a real date if done right. A girl I really like I will spend a few days with or fly somewhere. I always give them the same amount regardless of time spent together. So it could be 2 M for 4-5 hrs (same as ST at Emporium) or it could be 2 M for the night. Or it could be 2 M for 24 hrs..I have also used SA in a similar manner. I enjoy meeting a local "civvie that needs economic supplementation" who hangs out, introduces me to her culture, and plays the part of a GF. For a single guy like me who has no interest in serious dating, this business model is fantastic. I don't need to fuck all the time. When you have a job that brings fucking stress nearly 24/7, there is a satisfying feeling to lay naked with a girl 40 years my junior and just chill to music while stroking her fine, silky smooth ass.

Vendelo
10-27-25, 04:46
No it is 365 plus 5 k entry.You're probably right.

Not a big deal because 365 versus 375 is US $0.31, however, its beneficial to have accurate info here.

When you pay 365 at classic the girl receives 100 (about US $6). If you opt for a 3-some, its an additional 135 (about US $8). Think about that. You are paying US $8 for a second girl.

Argo1990
10-27-25, 07:38
Just because Koreans in Thailand do something doesn't mean Taiwanese guys in Jakarta do the same thing. I have heard that Taiwanese guys in Jakarta are stingy, usually tipping very little.Speaking for myself obviously I was talking about Koreans, Chinese and Japanese specifically. Not Taiwanese. However now that you mentioned it. I know a very beautiful Thai girl (used to work in an agogo) that now is working in a brothel in Taiwan and she is making lots of dough over there. Not to generalize of course but this tells me that there is demand in Taiwan and they willing to pay a premium as well.

Argo1990
10-27-25, 07:45
If you just want to fuck a pretty girl then Seeking is a total waste of time. If you want to find a girl who's not a pros pro and can really deliver a "real date with a girlfriend" experience then Seeking is the place. Sure there are lots of pros looking for a quick hit. But you can also get a completely different experience if done right. You can get what feels like a true girlfriend and real chemistry. I've done Seeking more than 50 times in six different countries and it's takes a bunch of work but when you hit the gem it's worth every penny. Because you truly like her. I know this is a foreign concept to those that just want to go fuck (and I like that too).

So in answer to your time question, no it's not really a short time price. We will go to dinner. We may bounce to a rooftop bar. We will go back to the room. The "date" will likely be 4-5 hours but could easily last overnight at her discretion. It's kinda like a real date if done right. A girl I really like I will spend a few days with or fly somewhere. I always give them the same amount regardless of time spent together. So it could be 2 M for 4-5 hrs (same as ST at Emporium) or it could be 2 M for the night. Or it could be 2 M for 24 hrs.

Again I know this isn't for everyone and if just want to fuck a pretty girl you can do it for a lot less. But if you want a "girlfriend" for the evening or overnight or a trip, Seeking has delivered time and time again.

That said I will also go to Classic and Emporium. The girl buffet has its allures.Thanks for the insights. I booted up Seeking a few times before but in other countries and it was essentially mostly escorts. At escort prices. I never bothered again. Might check it out in Jakarta.

- As for Emporium you mentioned 4-5 hours for ST that seems much better than what I had read on the venue previously (60 mins? Can you or others elaborate on a typical Emporium visit?

You get to spend some time before the sex with the girl in the spa / pool area or what do these 4-5 hours usually entail? And how hands on can you get with the girl? Making out? Sucking on nipples, fingering etc?

ArnoldNe
10-27-25, 08:23
As for Emporium you mentioned 4-5 hours for ST that seems much better than what I had read on the venue previously (60 mins? Can you or others elaborate on a typical Emporium visit?

You get to spend some time before the sex with the girl in the spa / pool area or what do these 4-5 hours usually entail? And how hands on can you get with the girl? Making out? Sucking on nipples, fingering etc?Brother you can follow Steve's lead for SA.

Emporium rates mentioned are for 1. 5 hours only, in that you get half hour in the pool with the girl, there is a steam room, there is a cold water pool also (infrastructure is top notch for a premium experience), I had forgotten about the girl once I separated from her for the steam room lol, in the pool lot of shenanigans can be done but it depends on the girl and how much she allows, most will sit on your lap allow fingering through the swimsuit etc, show you their tits in a way others can't see it, might engage in a small kiss etc, but there are other people around the pool as well so limitations apply. After the pool like I said you can take steam, use the cold pool (almost like ice bath), the normal pool is warm / hot water pool, which I felt a little weird because I am used to the regular swimming pools. It is also very steep, so you need to mind your step while getting in (high chance of slip and fall).

Post above routine you take a shower (solo), then proceed to the room, there is a shower in the room also, girl takes shower first, mouth wash etc are available in room along with bottled water and any beer/drinks that you may have bought at the pool counter.

Then the actual dance in the room for 1 hour, some girls might try to rush you through that, you also need to pay a mandatory 300 k tip to the girl (directly), and on your way out cost of the locker for your phone along with 1.8m for the overall experience, etc while checking out, so ther overall cost goes well above the 2 m mark for this overall experience (1. 5 hrs). It is well worth a try at least once.

Girl quantity is limited, David (papasan) over there is the go to guy for recommendations, but you choose who you like. BTW girl pools are also separate cost wise (not big difference but there was some difference, my memory is a bit fuzzy on that right now).

You should take at least 2. 5 m while going into Emporium + more if you order snacks and drinks.

ArnoldNe
10-27-25, 08:32
No it is 365 plus 5 k entry.Ok, Thank you for the update.

They always waived off the 5 k on all my visits there, Classic aims to please and doesn't fail at that, unless it gets too crowded, this when the waitresses and mamas may not give you their attention.

Alert!!: Everyone I just received a youtube link from one of my Discord friends, where there is this guy 'Cryptcat' who has sneakily recorded vids of Classic, Travel and several other prominent mong joints, 10-15 min vids, so request everyone to conceal your face, you can never be sure who is recording stuff, I think Classic, Travel and other places should also keep Phones in lockers like Empo to avoid this. I had noticed a guy recording me and my girl in one of the KI bars as well, I quickly informed the mama and switched from my table to other side of the room.

Mogwai
10-27-25, 12:00
Alert!!: Everyone I just received a youtube link from one of my Discord friends, where there is this guy 'Cryptcat' who has sneakily recorded vids of Classic, Travel and several other prominent mong joints, 10-15 min vids, so request everyone to conceal your face, you can never be sure who is recording stuff, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM0xeVsU0s

Is this Classic T2?
And is this the kind of 'quality' that I can expect to see there? Rather disappointing, I must say. I saw only a few doable girls in this vid.

Safado70
10-27-25, 12:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM0xeVsU0s

Is this Classic T2?
And is this the kind of 'quality' that I can expect to see there? Rather disappointing, I must say. I saw only a few doable girls in this vid.Of course only a few are doable. What do you expect from such a cheap place? If a really beautiful girl starts to work here she will quickly be taken to a place where she can make the usual 100 USD per ST.

FernandoAlonso
10-27-25, 12:33
Brother you can follow Steve's lead for SA.

Emporium rates mentioned are for 1. 5 hours only, in that you get half hour in the pool with the girl, there is a steam room, there is a cold water pool also (infrastructure is top notch for a premium experience), I had forgotten about the girl once I separated from her for the steam room lol, in the pool lot of shenanigans can be done but it depends on the girl and how much she allows, most will sit on your lap allow fingering through the swimsuit etc, show you their tits in a way others can't see it, might engage in a small kiss etc, but there are other people around the pool as well so limitations apply. After the pool like I said you can take steam, use the cold pool (almost like ice bath), the normal pool is warm / hot water pool, which I felt a little weird because I am used to the regular swimming pools. It is also very steep, so you need to mind your step while getting in (high chance of slip and fall).

Post above routine you take a shower (solo), then proceed to the room, there is a shower in the room also, girl takes shower first, mouth wash etc are available in room along with bottled water and any beer/drinks that you may have bought at the pool counter.

Then the actual dance in the room for 1 hour, some girls might try to rush you through that, you also need to pay a mandatory 300 k tip to the girl (directly), and on your way out cost of the locker for your phone along with 1.8m for the overall experience, etc while checking out, so ther overall cost goes well above the 2 m mark for this overall experience (1. 5 hrs). It is well worth a try at least once.

Girl quantity is limited, David (papasan) over there is the go to guy for recommendations, but you choose who you like. BTW girl pools are also separate cost wise (not big difference but there was some difference, my memory is a bit fuzzy on that right now).

You should take at least 2. 5 m while going into Emporium + more if you order snacks and drinks.The room time has been reduced to 45 minutes and the 30 minutes pool mostly apply only if you include her and your shower times. So the actual time with the girl is now unfortunately more like 60 minutes. If you do not spend time with drinks etc. You are in and out in around 90 minutes and pay between 1. 6 and 2 Mio unless you pick a top tier girl which are not worth it lookswise. There is no mandatory tip and 300 k is way too much unless she provides BBFS and some additional kinky stuff. The tip used to be added on a paper you signed and paid at exit, now the girls follow you to the locker for cash. But it is up to you. I never paid more than 200 (100 standard for good performance) and got every WhatsApp from them I wanted so they cannot have been that unhappy.

FernandoAlonso
10-27-25, 12:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM0xeVsU0s

Is this Classic T2?
And is this the kind of 'quality' that I can expect to see there? Rather disappointing, I must say. I saw only a few doable girls in this vid.This is T2 apparently very early as there are almost no girls. And the air is clear compared to later when the real party starts.

Paolo99
10-27-25, 13:00
Alert!!: Everyone I just received a youtube link from one of my Discord friends, where there is this guy 'Cryptcat' who has sneakily recorded vids of Classic, Travel and several other prominent mong joints, 10-15 min vids, so request everyone to conceal your face, you can never be sure who is recording stuff, I think Classic, Travel and other places should also keep Phones in lockers like Empo to avoid this. I had noticed a guy recording me and my girl in one of the KI bars as well, I quickly informed the mama and switched from my table to other side of the room.Just stick to Emporium if you're so afraid of these guys.

Obviously the guy is not using his phone to record, so it won't help to put phones in a locker.

Besides, the girls aren't allowed to use their phones. If we don't have ours also it's going to make communication with the girls quite challenging.

The place is already dark as fuck, we can't see properly a girl's face when we're inside the club so there's really nothing to worry about these videos.

Paolo99
10-27-25, 13:05
T5 on a Th night at 11 pm was packed with Chinese, Japanese. They're the assholes causing inflation.Which inflation are you talking about?

There is no hiking prices in these places. Drinks, shortime, cigarettes are all the same price they used to be a few months ago and nobody push you to consume.

The only price that gone up is the minimum spending in T2. There was no minimum spending there a few months ago and now it is 30 K plus the entrance fee (5 K) if you don't consume or do a ST.

Werqweq
10-27-25, 13:46
I am in Jakarta as I type this.

Classic is still 375 K and 500 K for one girl /60 min and two girls /60.

Min, respectively.
Are you sure? Two girls were 90 minutes before.

Steve 9696
10-27-25, 14:25
Thanks for the insights. I booted up Seeking a few times before but in other countries and it was essentially mostly escorts. At escort prices. I never bothered again. Might check it out in Jakarta.

- As for Emporium you mentioned 4-5 hours for ST that seems much better than what I had read on the venue previously (60 mins? Can you or others elaborate on a typical Emporium visit?

You get to spend some time before the sex with the girl in the spa / pool area or what do these 4-5 hours usually entail? And how hands on can you get with the girl? Making out? Sucking on nipples, fingering etc?Sorry. Wasn't clear. When I said "same as Emporium" I was referring to the COST at 2-3M. Not the length of time. Emporium is 60-90 minutes per below and my seeking dates are usually 3-5 hours. That includes dinner of course.

One other note is Seeking is a lot of work to find the right girls. The good ones are non pro and often only on for a few weeks before they decide that all men suck and they exit. So you have to be continually browsing and chatting and weed and feed. I actually enjoy chatting up the girls and the challenge of finding a gem in the pile of BS. But it can be exhausting at times.

But the payoff can spectacular. For example I found a Seeking girl on a slow Sunday in Rio. A very reasonable $100/ date. We had an amazing 4 HR date including dinner, rooftop bar, and room time. Stunner and sweet as can be. Then flew her to So Paulo for three days. $100/ day. Then Barcelona. Then saw her in Rio a couple more times. It can really turn into something amazing.

FernandoAlonso
10-27-25, 14:40
Sorry. Wasn't clear. When I said "same as Emporium" I was referring to the COST at 2-3M. Not the length of time. Emporium is 60-90 minutes per below and my seeking dates are usually 3-5 hours. That includes dinner of course.

One other note is Seeking is a lot of work to find the right girls. The good ones are non pro and often only on for a few weeks before they decide that all men suck and they exit. So you have to be continually browsing and chatting and weed and feed. I actually enjoy chatting up the girls and the challenge of finding a gem in the pile of BS. But it can be exhausting at times.

But the payoff can spectacular. For example I found a Seeking girl on a slow Sunday in Rio. A very reasonable $100/ date. We had an amazing 4 HR date including dinner, rooftop bar, and room time. Stunner and sweet as can be. Then flew her to So Paulo for three days. $100/ day. Then Barcelona. Then saw her in Rio a couple more times. It can really turn into something amazing.But only for you my handsome rockstar.

ArnoldNe
10-27-25, 16:07
The room time has been reduced to 45 minutes and the 30 minutes pool mostly apply only if you include her and your shower times. So the actual time with the girl is now unfortunately more like 60 minutes. If you do not spend time with drinks etc. You are in and out in around 90 minutes and pay between 1. 6 and 2 Mio unless you pick a top tier girl which are not worth it lookswise. There is no mandatory tip and 300 k is way too much unless she provides BBFS and some additional kinky stuff. The tip used to be added on a paper you signed and paid at exit, now the girls follow you to the locker for cash. But it is up to you. I never paid more than 200 (100 standard for good performance) and got every WhatsApp from them I wanted so they cannot have been that unhappy.When did this happen? I was there this year around Jan ending and it was still 1. 5 HR.

David had told me about the 300 k beforehand, and so I paid it as it was my first time, yea girl waited for me in the changing room.

If they have reduced the price proportionately then I guess it is fair, still they shouldn't be stingy about time in a premium place with a high price point like Empo, in that same price range you can get much better variety and quality in Malio (1. 8/9) for full 1 hour in the room with the girl.

Steve 9696
10-27-25, 18:25
But only for you my handsome rockstar.Haha you made me smile. Too bad we haven't been able to overlap. Let's fix that soon!

I'm feeling really good about my 2 M hottie and added a day so I could see her twice. She implied she didn't want an allowance second day, which is clearly super non pro. She also asked for proof of my vasectomy which I've never been asked before. Seems like a 100% real girl and new to Seeking. Feeling like a home run but let's see!

Joes22
10-27-25, 18:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM0xeVsU0s

Is this Classic T2?
And is this the kind of 'quality' that I can expect to see there? Rather disappointing, I must say. I saw only a few doable girls in this vid.First of all, I have to say, the person who puts a video like this out into the world isn't really intelligent and doesn't understand what they're doing.

Yes, it's T2. But I have to say it's either very, very late at night, and it doesn't reflect the number of women or the quality of the club.

Safado70
10-27-25, 20:53
This is T2 apparently very early as there are almost no girls. And the air is clear compared to later when the real party starts.Are you sure? Are the dancer starting to perform early?

FernandoAlonso
10-27-25, 22:56
Are you sure? Are the dancer starting to perform early?No, I am not. But it was extremely empty girl and customer wise. Also as they use these fog machines I remember later visits to be crowded by customers and girls as well as the air being smoky / foggy. But you are right dancers do perform normally later.

FernandoAlonso
10-27-25, 22:57
Haha you made me smile. Too bad we haven't been able to overlap. Let's fix that soon!

I'm feeling really good about my 2 M hottie and added a day so I could see her twice. She implied she didn't want an allowance second day, which is clearly super non pro. She also asked for proof of my vasectomy which I've never been asked before. Seems like a 100% real girl and new to Seeking. Feeling like a home run but let's see!Fate will unite us one day! If you need any Jakarta info you know how to reach me!

JamesTpy
10-28-25, 00:55
Hey people,

From what I see the quantity and quality in Jakarta is extremely high and undiscovered. Also the prices seem very reasonable. Curious how people consider Jakarta vs Pattaya for example?

Paolo99
10-28-25, 01:36
Have you been to T1? It's strange, but little is said about T1. It's not bad, though, and a bit quieter than 2 and 3. I've been there a few times. The rooms are very nice, and the women were nice too. The mamasan usually ignore you and only come when you want them to. Which is a bit strange and might keep foreigners away. A local pays 400, a foreigner 600.That double pricing is a good reason to stay away from that place as a foreigner.

What justifies the double pricing when other places apply the same price for everyone?

If foreigners keep spending money in such places, soon enough every other places will start charging double the price locals are paying.

Joes22
10-28-25, 05:08
That double pricing is a good reason to stay away from that place as a foreigner.

What justifies the double pricing when other places apply the same price for everyone?

If foreigners keep spending money in such places, soon enough every other places will start charging double the price locals are paying.Yes, it's not pretty, but it's the game. Many people simply forget that the prices are so low because these places aren't designed for us and are only there to entertain the locals. I felt very comfortable in T1. The atmosphere was very relaxed, and the visitor clientele was better too. If you're there for two weeks, you simply need other places for a change. I've been to T1, T2, and T3, in the Travel, the Emporium, Club 1001, and in Kota India. I'd actually like to try King Kross. Has anyone been there or knows of other similar places? I assume there are some hidden gems.

ArnoldNe
10-28-25, 05:26
Hey people,

From what I see the quantity and quality in Jakarta is extremely high and undiscovered. Also the prices seem very reasonable. Curious how people consider Jakarta vs Pattaya for example?Don't compare the 2, Pattaya is still the open heaven where everyone is welcome, prices are similar (for indies, streetwalkers etc).

In Indonesia these activities are technically illegal, the population is largely Islamic hence conservative about such things with foreigners, government cracks down and closes any place that makes too much noise, there were some very well known places closed recently (not talking about Royale but in recent events that too). Cops are corrupt and if they come across you doing schenanigans openly you could be in for trouble. So one needs to tread carefully over here, just last time when I was going to Classic from my hotel, the cab driver was asking me all sorts of questions, I deflected of course but he knew where I came from and where I went, these kind of things worry me about the fate of the good places that are on map currently. A glaring example of this is Jakarta vs. Bali (where you would not find such action with as much ease, there are options but most will limit you to HJ as an ending and that is it).

Moreover the only reason I consider this location more than once is the ease of explanation for going here compared to say Thailand (name is enough to raise anyone's eyebrows and no matter what you say to people who ask, you still get a stamp on the passport which you cannot refute). If you have no such things holding you back, Thailand should still be your go to destination.

Maximus V
10-28-25, 06:10
All this talk about Malio I went to check it out for myself. I arrived around 6:30 pm. When you get out of your grab / taxi and walk up the steps off the Main Street. Go through a medal detector through the front doors and check in to get your bracelet at the desk to the left. Taking the advice of fellow board members I asked to be shown the lounge. Took the elevators off to the right up to the 2nd floor where someone then took me to the lounge.

I was seated on the 2nd level with the imports. Russians, Chinese, Uzbek's, Ukrainian etc. Some were dressed to kill like they were going to a photo shoot while others were in sweatpants sitting with customers. I would say these Eastern Europeans aren't the quality you would find in Germany FKK but I can see the appeal to an Asian clientele that have never been to Europe how these girls could be exotic to them. They def had the attitude and unapproachable vibe to them, a bit rough around the edges.

The vibe overall is very chill. There were 2 mamas dealing with imports and 3 or 4 dealing with locals. The local chubby aggressive mama showed me a card with 2 tiers of local pricing gold 1. 2 mil and platinum 1. 8 mil. I told her to chill. Just bring all the girls available and I'll see who I like. So she brought the gold tier first. All the girls were nice, I didn't see anything that I had to have right away but I did note the number of 2 ladies who stood out from the pack. Pro tip, all the girls wear numbers so get your phone or a pen to keep track of the numbers of who you like. Makes the selection so much easier after you have seen what's available.

Mama then brought the Platinum locals. It was hard to say I saw much of a difference, probably taller, maybe a little fitter if I was really searching for something but mostly can't really tell why one makes the higher category vs the others. I took note of 2 numbers from this set as well. I told mama I'll decide later and just bring my beer. She didn't look too happy about my decision to wait. I see a lot of other Bro's in the lounge just chillin so I was in no rush. After getting a decent feel for the place I decided to go with a girl from the Gold tier. So I called over mama and gave her the number of the one I wanted. Now she had a big smile, haha! My girl comes over very sweet, waitress was right behind her, asking, drink for lady, I said sure. My girl ordered a juice I think it was like 50 k, not bad. My beer was around 110 k. My girl told me the live band will play around 8 pm but it's only 7 ish, so I said let's go to room.

I think we took an elevator and then walked through a few maze like corridors and then arrived at the room. Which is nice and big. I would say a step down from Emporium but not by much, still decent. Great lighting, space, some poles coming down from the ceiling if you want your girl to do some gymnastics! The only thing missing is mirrors, they need more mirrors, I think there was only 1 or 2 small ones. The actual deed was nice, standard procedure, good chemistry, nice BBBJ, a decent GFE type experience. A solid round. I guess we were in there for about an hour but no one knocked or called, I just started putting my clothes on. I tipped 300 k which my girl seemed very happy about.

I asked her to show me where the club was so I can check it out. She sent me down this long hallway, and then I took a left and went down another long hallway and then down some stairs but I couldn't find it. I also couldn't find any humans to point me in the right direction. So I wandered around for a few minutes until I ran into 2 attendants who said I had to go down another floor to the club. Hmm but that would put the club below ground level. I'm really not sure where the hell I went, eventually I ended up at the club. It's very nice, good ambiance, the only problem was it was only me and 2 other customers and only 1 dancer! It was after 8 pm so I thought it would be busier but seems I was too early. I didn't stick around for much longer as I made a point to come back after 10 pm to see the place in full action. Found my way back to the receptionist to pay my tab. As another board member mentioned a lot of numbers on the receipt but the final total was roughly 1. 5 mil which was what I expected + the tip I gave. Cool place, glad I checked it out, I'll be back to check out the club when it's in full swing.

CodeName47
10-28-25, 06:13
Hey people,

From what I see the quantity and quality in Jakarta is extremely high and undiscovered. Also the prices seem very reasonable. Curious how people consider Jakarta vs Pattaya for example?Haven't tried Pattaya. But visiting Jakarta 2 or 3 times a year for quite sometime now. Recent years it sure shows up the signs of the price climbing up (luckily classic travel didn't change much in pricing if not no changes at all). However, the girls those are 7 are not staying with either classic or travel. They seem to move independent and asking min of 3 million now. 2 mill short time is not a surprise this time.

Considering all this, I am also now trying to mix it with Thailand, probably start with Pattaya. The days of <1 mill fun is well and truly gone if you can't do <7's. I am well prepared to consider Thailand as I started enjoying point and shoot more than dating. People going to tinder are paying 3 million it seems. One girl said she got 5 million and my range is no where near that.

Having said that, great city for less than 40's and decent looking. Some tier 2 cities are still good where girls still follow their plan.

Maximus V
10-28-25, 06:28
I understand and hear you. One time I was in 1001 colosseum and David recommended to get in touch with his friend papi romi, I did and asked for BBBJ service from the lineup. He was miffed and walked away. You are correct and I get it on BB that girls wants to be discreet, but denying BBBJ is a mongering sin, LOL. I don't think I can select her, that's my first base.Super, I know exactly what you are talking about, Romi is the exact opposite of David, the guy has zero customer service skills. He is a real asshole! One week I had gone 3 days in a row. On my 3rd day Romi was my attendant, I couldn't find any girl I wanted to take so I told him I would come back later. He started huffing and puffing asking me why I wasted his time if I wasn't going to take girl. I told him this is my 3rd day in a row and I took girls everyday, I just don't see anyone I like at the moment. I also told him I'm not going to take someone I don't like just so he can get a commission! He then gave me a death stare and scurried away. I still on occasion go to 1001 but that experience still leaves such a bad taste. I try to avoid him like the plague.

Vendelo
10-28-25, 06:59
Which inflation are you talking about?

There is no hiking prices in these places. Drinks, shortime, cigarettes are all the same price they used to be a few months ago and nobody push you to consume.

The only price that gone up is the minimum spending in T2. There was no minimum spending there a few months ago and now it is 30 K plus the entrance fee (5 K) if you don't consume or do a ST.You are correct that prices have remained:

1 girl at 60 min is 365.

2 girls at 60 min is 500.

What has increased is BO'ing a Classic girl. They now want 2-3 juta for going to your hotel off hours (Booking Outside).


Are you sure? Two girls were 90 minutes before.Yes. I am positive. I had my second 3-some last night: 500 K / 60 minutes; phone call at 45th minute.

Vendelo
10-28-25, 07:16
I used Tinder in 2023 during 5-day romp. Hooked up with 3 girls.

Current trip (I am in Jakarta as I type this):

60 messages sent. Romped with 5.

Bad news: lots of catfishes. A seasoned pro like me got duped three frickin' times all because I didn't vchat.

One business model that tricked me:

Meet Girl1 on Tinder. She confirms pics are real. She arrives with big fat ass. Hit it to keep bodycount moving up. Her mother calls. She leaves shortly. I saw the name of the caller on the phone: Mama.

Next day Girl1 sends pic of friend, Girl2. "Hey want to meet my friend?" I said yes.

Girl2 whatsapp's me. I ask for full body pic and height and weight. All looks good. She arrives, another fat ass. But I hit it. Her mother also calls. I saw caller's name: Mama. I thought that was odd.

Next day, stranger whatsapp's me, Girl3. She says she is Girl2's 17-year old sister. A few messages back and forth. I realize I've been tricked by Mama so I block.

Vchat is best tool to implement. When I ask to vchat or just hit the vchat button, the catfish always blocks / disappears / ghosts. A few reply with "my camera no work" or "Tinder error. " Some girls use a whatsapp business account that does not have the vchat button.

So be careful out there even if you think you know what you're doing.

Expat American
10-28-25, 10:49
So one needs to tread carefully over here, just last time when I was going to Classic from my hotel, the cab driver was asking me all sorts of questions, I deflected of course but he knew where I came from and where I went, these kind of things worry me about the fate of the good places that are on map currently. A glaring example of this is Jakarta vs. Bali (where you would not find such action with as much ease, there are options but most will limit you to HJ as an ending and that is it).

Moreover the only reason I consider this location more than once is the ease of explanation for going here compared to say Thailand (name is enough to raise anyone's eyebrows and no matter what you say to people who ask, you still get a stamp on the passport which you cannot refute). If you have no such things holding you back, Thailand should still be your go to destination.Do you really think cops or cab drivers need you to tell them what happens in Classic? Trust, me everyone knows. Cabbie was just making conversation.

Safado70
10-28-25, 12:43
Hey people,

From what I see the quantity and quality in Jakarta is extremely high and undiscovered. Also the prices seem very reasonable. Curious how people consider Jakarta vs Pattaya for example?The prostituition scene in Jakarta is way smaller than in Pattaya, but definitely interesting. If you come for the first time, I suggest you only book a few days. Most people are shocked by the pollution, squalor and lack of walkability of Jakarta, especially in the parts which are interesting for our hobby.

Vendelo
10-28-25, 14:38
The prostituition scene in Jakarta is way smaller than in Pattaya, but definitely interesting. If you come for the first time, I suggest you only book a few days. Most people are shocked by the pollution, squalor and lack of walkability of Jakarta, especially in the parts which are interesting for our hobby.Agree.

In Jakarta as I write this.

I walked that narrow road that runs parallel to the train tracks near Classic. Squalor:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/HjNudn8oyge3WRDN8?g_st=ipc

Half the time I'm walking in the street bc parked cars occupy the sidewalk. Always checking my 6. Sidewalks are rare here. And you always have to constantly look both ways when crossing the street bc scooter riders often ride in opposite direction.

ArnoldNe
10-28-25, 16:29
Do you really think cops or cab drivers need you to tell them what happens in Classic? Trust, me everyone knows. Cabbie was just making conversation.No bro, that is not the point, what I was trying to say was that he knew I was a foreigner and was trying to size me up, I am used to the small chit chat with drivers, but they usually don't try to get too many details and usually starts and ends with a friendly smile. With this one It started with usual stuff like where did you come from and did you come here for work and then followed by how many times you visit this place, how long do you plan to stay etc, chances are that he was just being nosy, but their was an air of arrogance about his tone as if he was trying to narrow me down as a sex tourist.

Asian Rain
10-28-25, 16:41
Meet Girl1 on Tinder. She confirms pics are real. She arrives with big fat ass. Hit it to keep bodycount moving up. Her mother calls. She leaves shortly. I saw the name of the caller on the phone: Mama.

Girl2 whatsapp's me. I ask for full body pic and height and weight. All looks good. She arrives, another fat ass. But I hit it. Her mother also calls. I saw caller's name: Mama. I thought that was odd.It will all make sense when you realize that "mama" is not some maternal relation, but rather a handler "mamasan". When mama or papa decieves, consider to cancel right in front of thier face to send the right message, otherwise the bad behavior will continue. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

ArnoldNe
10-28-25, 17:00
All this talk about Malio I went to check it out for myself. I arrived around 6:30 pm. When you get out of your grab / taxi and walk up the steps off the Main Street. Go through a medal detector through the front doors and check in to get your bracelet at the desk to the left. Taking the advice of fellow board members I asked to be shown the lounge. Took the elevators off to the right up to the 2nd floor where someone then took me to the lounge.

I was seated on the 2nd level with the imports. Russians, Chinese, Uzbek's, Ukrainian etc. Some were dressed to kill like they were going to a photo shoot while others were in sweatpants sitting with customers. I would say these Eastern Europeans aren't the quality you would find in Germany FKK but I can see the appeal to an Asian clientele that have never been to Europe how these girls could be exotic to them. They def had the attitude and unapproachable vibe to them, a bit rough around the edges.
Few quick replies:

1. The ones that you were quoted 1. 8 or slightly above that are Viet and Chinese chicks, hence their pricing is higher or at least that was what was told to me the first time I asked.

2. Malio Strip club is much bigger than what you are describing and it is always filled with patrons (not to the brim, but not scanty either), it has a stage along with poles and all (if I remember correctly), there are rooms right above it which you can see from the club, kind of like a second floor within the club.

3. This is your personal choice but I usually don't tip in a place where the price point is already high, tip is alright (but not too much) for low end places where the service provider doesn't get much, I didn't pay the Russian girl I went with anything in form of tips and she didn't ask for it, but with both parted with a happy kiss while exiting. I personally think this maintains a balance to the order of things and keeps the girls from being spoilt.

Joes22
10-28-25, 20:02
Guys, what's the matter with you guys? Where did the idea come from to invite a girl I can fuck for 365,000 in Classic to my hotel for 2 million?

What's the point here?

I pay for Tinder every time I'm in Jakarta, but once I'm there, I quickly realize that I can meet much better and more beautiful women without much effort at Eporium and the other clubs.

Maximus V
10-29-25, 04:32
I used Tinder in 2023 during 5-day romp. Hooked up with 3 girls.

Current trip (I am in Jakarta as I type this):

60 messages sent. Romped with 5.

Bad news: lots of catfishes. A seasoned pro like me got duped three frickin' times all because I didn't vchat.

One business model that tricked me:

Meet Girl1 on Tinder. She confirms pics are real. She arrives with big fat ass. Hit it to keep bodycount moving up. Her mother calls. She leaves shortly. I saw the name of the caller on the phone: Mama.

Next day Girl1 sends pic of friend, Girl2. "Hey want to meet my friend?" I said yes..Even seasoned mongers still get scammed every now and then. I had a very similar thing happen to me last week. I was feeling a bit lazy and didn't want to leave my hotel so decided to try in house massage service with all inclusive full service component. I was chatting with a few and decided to go with one I thought was the best. Negotiated for 2 hours massage plus full service 1 Mil. I had her send multiple pictures she sent at least 5. I asked her are you sure this is you in the pictures. She assured me that she was in fact the girl in the pictures. I told her if anyone else shows up they are not getting paid. She said ok.

This is where the tricky comes into play. We met in the lobby, she had loose fitting clothes on so I couldn't get a gauge of overall body profile vs what I saw in the pictures, what I did notice was she was much shorter than what the pictures made her seem. Next she had on a mask so really could only see her eyes, her hair seemed the same I guess. My spidey senses felt something was off but I said let's see, I was thinking she wouldn't just lie to me after all my questioning and verification. So once in the room, she asked for the money even before taking off the mask. I said the money is right there pointing to dresser, then I said take off the mask. So when she takes off the mask, there is a little resemblance to the pictures but I realize I have just been caught up in a bait and switch. I tell her straight out that is not you in the pictures, why did you lie. She assures me it is her and that she just used an app to make herself more beautiful. I busted out laughing, anyone not blind would be able to tell that is not her. I was to tired to go through with this whole charade again finding another girl and so on, so I told her to start the massage.

The massage was absolutely terrible, it was so bad I told her to just stop and start sucking me off. This was even worse than the massage, she was rough, used so much teeth I told her to calm the fuck down. Slow and steady. She went slow for maybe a minute or 2 before going back to teeth and roughness. I can't imagine a worse blow job. At this point there was no way I was going to bang this girl, I was disgusted. I told her to stop everything and just get out, leave immediately! I did a reverse image search and found those pictures she used have been used for advertising massage services in Dubai, London and Qatar! When ordering online do not trust any picture, ever. Video call is the only way you can know for certain, and even then with these new AI filters who knows.

Maximus V
10-29-25, 04:38
Few quick replies:

1. The ones that you were quoted 1. 8 or slightly above that are Viet and Chinese chicks, hence their pricing is higher or at least that was what was told to me the first time I asked.

2. Malio Strip club is much bigger than what you are describing and it is always filled with patrons (not to the brim, but not scanty either), it has a stage along with poles and all (if I remember correctly), there are rooms right above it which you can see from the club, kind of like a second floor within the club..Hmm, maybe you read the report wrong. I never mentioned the size of the club, just that it was very nice with a good ambiance. I do agree that it is a very big space, I just happened to see it empty. I will be back soon to check it out when it's in full swing with dancers and clients.

Maximus V
10-29-25, 05:43
This trip is all about trying new places, so I ventured back to a place I had sworn off, good ole' classic. This time I wanted to try a floor I had never been, 1st floor Classic club, you enter the lobby and it's the first door on the right. Most of the reports say skip it based on bad experiences, bill padding, extra drinks you didn't order etc. With all of the bad press I wasn't expecting much but what I found was surprising!

First the mama's here are as laid back as can be, they don't rush you as soon as you walk through the door like in terminal 2. They really don't pay you much attention at all. I was able to sit for at least 20 minutes without anyone harassing me. Not even a waitress came by to ask what I wanted to drink. The girls are sitting stadium seating to the far right of the entrance. You get a live DJ and then later in the evening they switched to live band on the opposite side of the club. There were some dancers on stage that definitely needed more dance and choreographed lessons but still something to look at.

I would say the quality is a step up from T2 and T5, a handful of these girls could work at Emporium for sure. All the girls are wearing the same outfit, that night the dress code was black evening dress and heels. When you see a girl you like and want to speak to her you go grab a mama and tell her which one you like and she will laser her to you. I did see some Chinese Bros tell mama what type of girl they were looking for and mama lasered about 10 girls that fit the description and they all came down to present themselves to the Bro's. We are about 30 minutes in and still no one has asked me if I want a drink or if I want a girl. So I did find a girl that stood out from the rest. I went to mama and told her which one I wanted. The girl came down, face was very nice, body to match. So we sat on the sofa and had a quick chat. Just looking at her up close I knew this was the one, when she started rubbing my leg, I felt that sensation that it was time to go to the room. She signaled to mama and we walked to the cashier.

There seems to be some misinformation about pricing here. I payed close attention when at the cashier, there was 1 Indonesian and 2 Chinese Bros in front of me, everyone paid the same price 610 k. 400 k goes to the house 10 k goes to mama and 200 k goes to the girl. Everyone paid the same. That is the pricing. Well worth it in my opinion for higher quality girls, relaxed atmosphere, nobody hounding you to buy drinks or hurry up and choose a girl. As far as bill padding or adding on drinks that I never authorized, never happened because no waitress ever came to take my drink order.

Heading to the room, you see that they have renovated the space to look like a medieval fortress, castle vibe, the rooms are definitely better than T2 and T5, sadly I did see a roach. Classic really has got to find a new exterminator because the current company is doing a terrible job. Anyway, had great service by this lovely young lady. You sometimes can tell just by the way she washes you in the shower what type of session this will be. Soft, gentle caressing, some kissing, rubbing etc. On to the bed, licking everywhere, great BBBJ with eye contact, the works. Multiple positions and the deed was done. Wonderful girl, she asked where I was staying, I told her where and asked if she wanted to come over. She gave contact info and we plan to meet this weekend. Good girl, good session. Tip 300 k.

For my first visit to the club, I would have to say I really like it. Maybe I got lucky and this is not always the case, but the environment, vibe and overall quality seems to be better than any other floor. Again this is just my personal opinion after one visit. Will visit again to see if the experience is the same.

ArnoldNe
10-29-25, 06:29
Guys, what's the matter with you guys? Where did the idea come from to invite a girl I can fuck for 365,000 in Classic to my hotel for 2 million?

What's the point here?

I pay for Tinder every time I'm in Jakarta, but once I'm there, I quickly realize that I can meet much better and more beautiful women without much effort at Eporium and the other clubs.It is about fucking+the company for a longer time where number of shots don't matter, you may want to have dinner / a cozy time with them et all, this happens when mongering matures from the initial sex only for money to something more.

XXL
10-29-25, 10:55
Guys, what's the matter with you guys? Where did the idea come from to invite a girl I can fuck for 365,000 in Classic to my hotel for 2 million?

What's the point here?

I pay for Tinder every time I'm in Jakarta, but once I'm there, I quickly realize that I can meet much better and more beautiful women without much effort at Eporium and the other clubs.I had a Classic girl come to my hotel for 1 million for short time. My hotel was very close to Classic so that might have helped. She took ages to come though, was about one and a half hour late, so it was not something I was keen to repeat.

Another Classic girl had promised to come to my hotel for 1 million short time, but she never did. She might have come before work owing to the proximity. On the appointed day she wasn't replying to my Whatsapp messages and I found her working as usual at 3 pm at Classic. She hadn't told me she didn't want to meet me at my hotel. Neither had she told me she was working on that day as usual. She had just played dead.

For some reasons Classic girls are not keen on coming to hotels even for 3 times the Classic rates (and even if the hotel is 800 meters away from Classic).

Werqweq
10-29-25, 12:47
I had a Classic girl come to my hotel for 1 million for short time. My hotel was very close to Classic so that might have helped. She took ages to come though, was about one and a half hour late, so it was not something I was keen to repeat.

Another Classic girl had promised to come to my hotel for 1 million short time, but she never did. She might have come before work owing to the proximity. On the appointed day she wasn't replying to my Whatsapp messages and I found her working as usual at 3 pm at Classic. She hadn't told me she didn't want to meet me at my hotel. Neither had she told me she was working on that day as usual. She had just played dead.

For some reasons Classic girls are not keen on coming to hotels even for 3 times the Classic rates (and even if the hotel is 800 meters away from Classic).Never tried to invite a Classic girl myself (was slightly tempted for a few seconds, but only with one or two girls, and for overnight, but didn't bother asking in the end), but makes no sense to me. And it's a lot more than three times the Classic rate for the girl, considering they get around 100 k (110k?) per session, even though we pay almost 370k.

Did bang a girl from Classic for 400k (or 300k, I don't remember anymore) at my hotel via michat, but that was just a girl who told me later that she was also working at Classic, when already in my room. She tried to pimp one or two of her friends too, who I am guessing were also working at Classic as they could not come until 01 or 02 am, no doubt after being banged by half a dozen other guys already.

Safado70
10-29-25, 14:42
For some reasons Classic girls are not keen on coming to hotels even for 3 times the Classic rates (and even if the hotel is 800 meters away from Classic).Unfortunately, this is my experience too. I think this happens for the following reasons:

1. The girls are very tired. Including dressing up they spend 14 hours at the club and therefore have little free time.

2. Most girls have contracts which forbid them to visit clients in their spare time. If caught they have to pay a very high fine.

3. Many girls sleep in dorms supplied by the company and the mammies have a tight control over their social life.

For me, this is actually one of the biggest disadvantages of Jakarta compared to Pattaya. I find it very difficult to find decent company for an early afternoon meeting.

Vendelo
10-29-25, 17:21
Unfortunately, this is my experience too. I think this happens for the following reasons:

1. The girls are very tired. Including dressing up they spend 14 hours at the club and therefore have little free time.

2. Most girls have contracts which forbid them to visit clients in their spare time. If caught they have to pay a very high fine.

3. Many girls sleep in dorms supplied by the company and the mammies have a tight control over their social life.

For me, this is actually one of the biggest disadvantages of Jakarta compared to Pattaya. I find it very difficult to find decent company for an early afternoon meeting.1. I offered two Classic girls to come to my hotel and possibly spend the afternoon with me. Both were interested: "give whatsapp!" But as soon as the phone rang they switched back to transaction mode.

2. I am unsure about contract terms but they can't quit after the first month. I holiday-GF-ed a Classic girl in the last 48 hours. No discussion of a fine.

3. True. My HGF shares a room with one girl. Her cost is 1 juta a month paid to Classic. There's an "auntie" that cooks meals, which are charged to the girl. Classic advertises on Tik Tok. That's how my HGF learned of Classic.

Lastly, as I mentioned in a previous post, I sessioned with a Classic girl for one hour. After the session I asked her and mommy if I could take her to Luminor for the night. It was 11 pm at the time. Both said yes. I paid 365 K x 6 hours. Mama would pick her up at 8 am. Girl recd 600 K.

BenderOver
10-29-25, 17:56
Unfortunately, this is my experience too. I think this happens for the following reasons:

1. The girls are very tired. Including dressing up they spend 14 hours at the club and therefore have little free time.

2. Most girls have contracts which forbid them to visit clients in their spare time. If caught they have to pay a very high fine.

3. Many girls sleep in dorms supplied by the company and the mammies have a tight control over their social life.

For me, this is actually one of the biggest disadvantages of Jakarta compared to Pattaya. I find it very difficult to find decent company for an early afternoon meeting.I've taken classic girls out for casual dates like lunch at Grand Indo. This was under the radar without payment for barfines or the MMS knowing. Every single time, about 90 to 120 minutes into hanging out at the mall, the girl gets a Whatsapp message that says she's needed right now to go to work. Report in immediately. I walk the girl to the bluebird area and pay her cab fee with a little spending money in ber hand. This probably would be evidence of #3 above. Yes the plan for both her and me was to fool around a bit at the hotel, so she could pocket an ST tip without mms knowing. But never happened as of yet and I've been at this for a bit now.

BenderOver
10-29-25, 18:04
Even seasoned mongers still get scammed every now and then. I had a very similar thing happen to me last week. I was feeling a bit lazy and didn't want to leave my hotel so decided to try in house massage service with all inclusive full service component. I was chatting with a few and decided to go with one I thought was the best. Negotiated for 2 hours massage plus full service 1 Mil. I had her send multiple pictures she sent at least 5. I asked her are you sure this is you in the pictures. She assured me that she was in fact the girl in the pictures. I told her if anyone else shows up they are not getting paid. She said ok.

This is where the tricky comes into play. We met in the lobby, she had loose fitting clothes on so I couldn't get a gauge of overall body profile vs what I saw in the pictures, what I did notice was she was much shorter than what the pictures made her seem. Next she had on a mask so really could only see her eyes, her hair seemed the same I guess. My spidey senses felt something was off but I said let's see, I was thinking she wouldn't just lie to me after all my questioning and verification. So once in the room, she asked for the money even before taking off the mask. I said the money is right there pointing to dresser, then I said take off the mask. So when she takes off the mask, there is a little resemblance to the pictures but I realize I have just been caught up in a bait and switch. I tell her straight out that is not you in the pictures, why did you lie. She assures me it is her and that she just used an app to make herself more beautiful. I busted out laughing, anyone not blind would be able to tell that is not her. I was to tired to go through with this whole charade again finding another girl and so on, so I told her to start the massage.

The massage was absolutely terrible, it was so bad I told her to just stop and start sucking me off. This was even worse than the massage, she was rough, used so much teeth I told her to calm the fuck down. Slow and steady. She went slow for maybe a minute or 2 before going back to teeth and roughness. I can't imagine a worse blow job. At this point there was no way I was going to bang this girl, I was disgusted. I told her to stop everything and just get out, leave immediately! I did a reverse image search and found those pictures she used have been used for advertising massage services in Dubai, London and Qatar! When ordering online do not trust any picture, ever. Video call is the only way you can know for certain, and even then with these new AI filters who knows.Heads up, I video called a girl 18 year old mother of a 3 year old kid, go figure. She looked smoking hot all three times we video called. She shows up and she's at least 2 points lower than the smoke show from the vids. At that point, I realized that there's AI filter for live video stream also.

She was absolutely great in bed, but the face and body was just not repeatable in person. Also she hounded me for money days on end after the meet. I caved in a few times when she claimed to need money to buy food and milk for her baby, but I couldn't help her raise her kid to 18.

Steve 9696
10-29-25, 18:24
Heads up, I video called a girl 18 year old mother of a 3 year old kid, go figure. She looked smoking hot all three times we video called. She shows up and she's at least 2 points lower than the smoke show from the vids. At that point, I realized that there's AI filter for live video stream also.

She was absolutely great in bed, but the face and body was just not repeatable in person. Also she hounded me for money days on end after the meet. I caved in a few times when she claimed to need money to buy food and milk for her baby, but I couldn't help her raise her kid to 18.Yeah I think taking girls out of these high mileage clubs is fraught with peril. Equally a friend just used Tinder a bunch in Jakarta and he did have one home run but several duds also. I think if you want a true dinner date with a "real girl" Seeking is your best bet if you choose wisely.

Admittedly the next link (latest entry) is my experience last night in a second tier US city. But the same applies worldwide. Look hard enough and you will find gems on Seeking.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

Vendelo
10-29-25, 21:51
Even seasoned mongers still get scammed every now and then. I had a very similar thing happen to me last week. I was feeling a bit lazy and didn't want to leave my hotel so decided to try in house massage service with all inclusive full service component. I was chatting with a few and decided to go with one I thought was the best. Negotiated for 2 hours massage plus full service 1 Mil. I had her send multiple pictures she sent at least 5. I asked her are you sure this is you in the pictures. She assured me that she was in fact the girl in the pictures. I told her if anyone else shows up they are not getting paid. She said ok.

This is where the tricky comes into play. We met in the lobby, she had loose fitting clothes on so I couldn't get a gauge of overall body profile vs what I saw in the pictures, what I did notice was she was much shorter than what the pictures made her seem. Next she had on a mask so really could only see her eyes, her hair seemed the same I guess. My spidey senses felt something was off but I said let's see, I was thinking she wouldn't just lie to me after all my questioning and verification. So once in the room, she asked for the money even before taking off the mask. I said the money is right there pointing to dresser, then I said take off the mask. So when she takes off the mask, there is a little resemblance to the pictures but I realize I have just been caught up in a bait and switch. I tell her straight out that is not you in the pictures, why did you lie. She assures me it is her and that she just used an app to make herself more beautiful. I busted out laughing, anyone not blind would be able to tell that is not her. I was to tired to go through with this whole charade again finding another girl and so on, so I told her to start the massage..Yep. This has happened to me in Jakarta. I asked the girl.

To meet me at the elevator. She shows up with a mask. I told her to lower the mask. She did. Totally different girl and a homely ome at that. I told her sorry and goodbye. I didn't want to get into the elevator so she could see which was my floor so I took the stairs.

Vendelo
10-29-25, 21:56
It is about fucking+the company for a longer time where number of shots don't matter, you may want to have dinner / a cozy time with them et all, this happens when mongering matures from the initial sex only for money to something more.I concur. My two good friends are still in "initial sex only," which is fine, to each his own. I'm in the holiday GF phase where I need to feel the girl is basically my GF. Go out. Hold hands. Watch TV. Go to a movie. Get a bite at her "go to" restaurant to learn about local food. For me, its decompressing when I worked and had a lot of stress.

Werqweq
10-29-25, 22:04
I've taken classic girls out for casual dates like lunch at Grand Indo. This was under the radar without payment for barfines or the MMS knowing. Every single time, about 90 to 120 minutes into hanging out at the mall, the girl gets a Whatsapp message that says she's needed right now to go to work. Report in immediately. I walk the girl to the bluebird area and pay her cab fee with a little spending money in ber hand. This probably would be evidence of #3 above. Yes the plan for both her and me was to fool around a bit at the hotel, so she could pocket an ST tip without mms knowing. But never happened as of yet and I've been at this for a bit now.I cannot believe that is an unintentional scam by the girl.

Afaik, girls know well what time they're supposed to be at work. E.g., one mamasan I'm friendly with has a few times consulted what I assume is some sort of work schedule on her phone when I asked about a specific girl I wanted to repeat with, telling me that girl will e.g. start at 16:00 (in one hour, too long for me to wait), or that girl is not working today, but will start at 14:00 tomorrow, etc.

Jimmyzhu
10-30-25, 10:06
1. I offered two Classic girls to come to my hotel and possibly spend the afternoon with me. Both were interested: "give whatsapp!" But as soon as the phone rang they switched back to transaction mode.

2. I am unsure about contract terms but they can't quit after the first month. I holiday-GF-ed a Classic girl in the last 48 hours. No discussion of a fine.

3. True. My HGF shares a room with one girl. Her cost is 1 juta a month paid to Classic. There's an "auntie" that cooks meals, which are charged to the girl. Classic advertises on Tik Tok. That's how my HGF learned of Classic.

Lastly, as I mentioned in a previous post, I sessioned with a Classic girl for one hour. After the session I asked her and mommy if I could take her to Luminor for the night. It was 11 pm at the time. Both said yes. I paid 365 K x 6 hours. Mama would pick her up at 8 am. Girl recd 600 K.Did you stay at Luminor near Emporium? Was there any problems in bringing your +1?

Bbdbbd
10-30-25, 19:07
A while ago, I was in Jakarta, staying in Blue Sky hotel in Jl. Raden Saleh Raya. I came across a profile on the Tan Tan app that looked tasty, and got chatting. She turned out to a paid visitor, only one photo on the profile, and a generic bio. Started talking, and she agreed to meet for 3 red notes, IIRC. They made sure to find out my hotel and room number before they left. I knew this MO, but the little head took over and I proceeded anyway. A completely different girl came, who didn't know absolutely any English whatsoever, in contrast to whoever I was chatting on Tan Tan with. Long straight hair, petite body, jeans and t-shirt. She was a little dark, and very plain and nondescript. She actually came when I was in the middle of a work call, and I motioned her to enter and sit on the bed. The call went on for a little longer than I anticipated, and I could see that she was getting a little impatient. She sat on the bed and doomscrolled on her phone for a while. Later, she even started to strip without me! Thankfully, it wasn't a videocall. I soon got done with the call, and went over to her. She was already in her underwear, and she allowed me the pleasure of taking them off, to reveal a small petite set of boobs with your trademark east Asian long nipples, and her pussy. I explored her body with my hands, running them all over her front and back. I was doing it for me, more than for her. I didn't need to impress her, I wasn't planning to repeat her at all. The deal was for a massage and boom boom, and she started massaging first. The massage itself was very average and unnecessary. It went on for 20 minutes with just some kneading and pressing, and soon she turned her attention to my dick. My dick was not very enthused or aroused with the mediocre massage, so she worked on it for a couple of minutes get the juices flowing. As soon as I was hard, she put on the condom that magically appeared in her hand, and prepared to mount me (WOT) while I was lying on the bed on my back. My dick slipped into her after some coaxing (not sure if tight pussy, or not turned on enough, probably the latter). But as soon as I was in, she did some vaginal magic, and squeezed her vagina right on the edge of my mushroomhead. She started bouncing up and down, but didn't go all the way like I was used to. Instead, she managed to focus the movement so that her pussy pincer action was concentrated on the tip of my dick, particularly at the base of the helmet. I had never felt anything like it before. This was a new realm of pleasure for me. I immediately knew that this was someone who took their kegels seriously. I was about to explode in my condom, and it had hardly been a couple of minutes since I was inside of her. I realized this was their game – get the shot done with early, and bounce soon after. So I stopped her. The disappointment and slight frustration on her face was fleeting, but evident. She resisted stopping and continued, but I was firm and pushed her off. I was already hustled by the bait-and-switch, but I wasn't about to be hustled again. I was going to finish on my terms. I lay her down and pulled her to the edge of the bed by her legs. I pulled them apart to reveal a juicy, wet pussy. I started fucking her. Deep and hard. I didn't hold back. I was taking out my frustration on her. Missionary, so I could see her grimace in pain. I was a jackhammer, and she took it like a champ. Ish. I was determined to get my money's worth. I came in the condom. We both cleaned up, and she gave me another 10 minutes of average massage. We both washed up and I paid her. I had to get on another work call, and she didn't waste any time. She was out the door by the time my work call got over. Out to find her next victim, the kegel freak.

BBD.

Delbo1
10-30-25, 20:28
I wonder where the girls are working now that the train Tracka have been demolished will they still be hanging around that area or moved further down the track?

Steve 9696
10-30-25, 20:49
What are the club options late late night. One night I have meetings (that I can't miss) up to 1:30 AM. I read Emporium is open till 5 AM. What about classic? Anyone ever done the late late time frame? Any worthy girls? Or am I the pioneer here?

Vendelo
10-30-25, 21:20
Did you stay at Luminor near Emporium? Was there any problems in bringing your +1?Yes, I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan that's literally next to Emporium. It was second stay and never had a problem. The counter staff don't even look. I usually have girls meet me at the elevator.

JSmithJ88
10-30-25, 21:52
Yeah I think taking girls out of these high mileage clubs is fraught with peril. Equally a friend just used Tinder a bunch in Jakarta and he did have one home run but several duds also. I think if you want a true dinner date with a "real girl" Seeking is your best bet if you choose wisely.

Admittedly the next link (latest entry) is my experience last night in a second tier US city. But the same applies worldwide. Look hard enough and you will find gems on Seeking.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

You never know about these tinder / seeking chicks.
I scrolled through seeking and look who I found, a chick I banged at kota.
Somebody is paying millions for something that can be had for 400 k.

Steve 9696
10-30-25, 22:23
You never know about these tinder / seeking chicks.
I scrolled through seeking and look who I found, a chick I banged at kota.
Somebody is paying millions for something that can be had for 400 k.Well then credit where credit is due! Smart girl figured out she can do better. Congrats to her.

It's actually easy to separate the pros from the real girls on Seeking. Easiest tell is how long they are willing to chat. A real girl wants to get to know you a little and will chat back and forth for a few days. A pro has no time for this. They are like "can you meetup tonight"? Or "contact me again when you are in town". Definitely a pro. A couple days of chit chat is a great way to figure out what's up.

Vendelo
10-30-25, 23:37
Well then credit where credit is due! Smart girl figured out she can do better. Congrats to her.

It's actually easy to separate the pros from the real girls on Seeking. Easiest tell is how long they are willing to chat. A real girl wants to get to know you a little and will chat back and forth for a few days. A pro has no time for this. They are like "can you meetup tonight"? Or "contact me again when you are in town". Definitely a pro. A couple days of chit chat is a great way to figure out what's up.True!

Also pics on yachts and in business class or Dubai in the background.

Vendelo
10-30-25, 23:49
I literally just got home from Jakarta. I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan. A Tinder girl I saw told me there are many massage shops near Luminor. So I searched in google maps and sure as shit there are. But they're not physical shops. They're 24-hour outcall to your hotel. I wanted to try but got tired of getting catfished (see a previous post of mine).

Has anyone tried this?

Vendelo
10-31-25, 00:00
I literally just got home from Jakarta. I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan. A Tinder girl I saw told me there are many massage shops near Luminor. So I searched in google maps and sure as shit there are. But they're not physical shops. They're 24-hour outcall to your hotel. I wanted to try but got tired of getting catfished (see a previous post of mine).

Has anyone tried this?

SuperLove
10-31-25, 05:40
Yes that can always be the case, I always look for an Emporium kind of a girl when I surf seeking, solely for the experience. If you end up with classic kind of a girl it beats the purpose. For me the whole idea of seeking is getting a non pro or semi pro horny girl who'll cave in and be my GF for a day. I visited KI only once, wasn't about the girls but the experience, poor hygiene and the rooms.


You never know about these tinder / seeking chicks.
I scrolled through seeking and look who I found, a chick I banged at kota.
Somebody is paying millions for something that can be had for 400 k.

Joes22
10-31-25, 06:09
What are the club options late late night. One night I have meetings (that I can't miss) up to 1:30 AM. I read Emporium is open till 5 AM. What about classic? Anyone ever done the late late time frame? Any worthy girls? Or am I the pioneer here?That's too late. The spa at the Emporium is only worth it until about 10 pm. After that, you can go to the club, which is open until about 5 am, but it's not really attractive for sex. The Classic T2 is already winding down by that time, and the quality is poor. The first women leave around midnight, and you can expect to find the last one around 2 am. You'll have to go to T5 then; it stays open later.

ArnoldNe
10-31-25, 06:24
What are the club options late late night. One night I have meetings (that I can't miss) up to 1:30 AM. I read Emporium is open till 5 AM. What about classic? Anyone ever done the late late time frame? Any worthy girls? Or am I the pioneer here?

Classic closes at 2-2. 30, Girls start wrapping things up at their end, half hour before that. Girls that you take at 2am, will be in room till 3 and then head out. Most girls will not take anyone to room after 2 unless they are desparate.

I have stayed many times till Classic closure.

KI bars are open till 4 but never stayed that late over there.

ArnoldNe
10-31-25, 06:34
I literally just got home from Jakarta. I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan. A Tinder girl I saw told me there are many massage shops near Luminor. So I searched in google maps and sure as shit there are. But they're not physical shops. They're 24-hour outcall to your hotel. I wanted to try but got tired of getting catfished (see a previous post of mine).

Has anyone tried this?Ah yes, I had forgotten about these, I had contacted them in my time over there. They promise a lot but you are talking to a faceless person who asks for your hotel name and room, and they were following up rigorously, didn't share girl photos till I shared my hotel info, I waited for some time to see if they follow up aggressively which they did and ultimately I became uncomfortable to share my hotel info with an unknown person so I didn't pull the trigger on this.

ArnoldNe
10-31-25, 06:42
Well then credit where credit is due! Smart girl figured out she can do better. Congrats to her.

It's actually easy to separate the pros from the real girls on Seeking. Easiest tell is how long they are willing to chat. A real girl wants to get to know you a little and will chat back and forth for a few days. A pro has no time for this. They are like "can you meetup tonight"? Or "contact me again when you are in town". Definitely a pro. A couple days of chit chat is a great way to figure out what's up.Another way of interpreting this is that you are paying price of diamonds for peanuts, which drives the market prices up. If the playing field is leveled evenly for everyone then there won't be a price advantage left for any outsider to enjoy and kill the local guys from enjoying this hobby who don't earn as much from other work streams available to them. The price difference is one of the main reasons for anyone to travel from opposite sides of the world here, so lets not start spoiling the dishes that we all enjoy.

Amadeuss
10-31-25, 07:32
I wonder where the girls are working now that the train Tracka have been demolished will they still be hanging around that area or moved further down the track?Bad news: most of the shacks behind the wall are demolished.

Good news: inside the tracks, the girls are still there in big numbers.

They will take you to a house down from the track or some of the canopies with a mattress are again rebuilt.

Its still a special place.

Vendelo
10-31-25, 12:07
Ah yes, I had forgotten about these, I had contacted them in my time over there. They promise a lot but you are talking to a faceless person who asks for your hotel name and room, and they were following up rigorously, didn't share girl photos till I shared my hotel info, I waited for some time to see if they follow up aggressively which they did and ultimately I became uncomfortable to share my hotel info with an unknown person so I didn't pull the trigger on this.Thanks for your reply. In retrospect, I had the same feeling and decided not to deal with all that BS. Classic and EMP simplify the process, I. E, you know exactly what you will get and for how much.

Tinder is a lot of work.

Werqweq
10-31-25, 13:59
Well then credit where credit is due! Smart girl figured out she can do better. Congrats to her.

It's actually easy to separate the pros from the real girls on Seeking. Easiest tell is how long they are willing to chat. A real girl wants to get to know you a little and will chat back and forth for a few days. A pro has no time for this. They are like "can you meetup tonight"? Or "contact me again when you are in town". Definitely a pro. A couple days of chit chat is a great way to figure out what's up.Or maybe the more pro of these pros have already figured that one out? Maybe they are chit-chatting for some days first in order to appear less of a hooker, and then get a bigger payment? ;-)

Steve 9696
10-31-25, 14:29
Or maybe the more pro of these pros have already figured that one out? Maybe they are chit-chatting for some days first in order to appear less of a hooker, and then get a bigger payment? ;-)Reasonable assertion but in 7 years of using Seeking I have not found this to be the case. This is probably because fair number of guys go on Seeking just to grab a fuck and not have a date. And the pros can do fine with them.

I will point out that Jakarta is an anomaly on Seeming pricing if you define Classic as the usual pro price. Because worldwide what is true is the a "real" Seeking girl will get the same price (or at most 2 x) thst a high quality pro gets for an hour in that same geography. And in places where it's illegal (USA) a Seekibg girl can be less than a pro.

Of course if you use Emporium as the pro reference price, then the rule of seeking girl costs same but for more time and a real date remains basically true.

Jimmyzhu
10-31-25, 17:30
Yes, I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan that's literally next to Emporium. It was second stay and never had a problem. The counter staff don't even look. I usually have girls meet me at the elevator.Very nice! I was actually thinking about booking a room there since its close by to emporium, which room did you book (standard / double / suite) and was it OK to your liking?

Bbdbbd
10-31-25, 21:20
I went to Lokasari square pretty late at night, almost half past midnight. The place was far from dead, but wasn't bustling either. A mamasan approached me with a girl in tow. The girl looked like early twenties, no kid, young, tight body, and the perfect clothes to show off the body. She wore a top that accentuated her breasts, and very short shorts, and a spunky attitude. She can't have been taller than 5'3. These made her look younger than she was. Mamasan asked for 500 k, pointed to a hotel closeby and said another 100 k. But I managed to negotiate down, and wore her down to 300 k including room. I think she agreed because of how late it was. But we didn't end up going to the hotel she pointed at. Instead, we walked close by and went to a certain hotel Arcadia, a lodge at best. When we reached the hotel the girl confidently and quickly went into a room, and evacuated it for us. A man and a baby came out of the room and went somewhere. The room itself was tiny, barely able to contain the bed that was inside. The girl stripped to reveal a slim and tight body, and a small curvefull of boobs. She had a nice ass that was a delight to grab and slap, which I did. Her pussy was trimmed, and aesthetically looked very pleasing; it didn't look destroyed, like I expected it. Overall, a good deal for three red notes. She washed up in the bathroom that was too tiny to allow the door to open fully, and came out. I got out of my clothes, and explored her body for a couple of minutes. Her skin was soft, and her body was tight, with next to no body fat. But I couldn't see her ribcage either; it wasn't a malnourished look. She tried to sell me a condom, but I told her I didn't want it, and that I'd fuck her bareback. The condom suddenly became free. My hands roamed around her body, exploring every inch of the teenage volleyball player-like body. Her boobs were taut, and I sucked on them for a few minutes. I knew the arrangement didn't really lend itself to any sort of romance or reciprocity, but I still managed to suck her tits and explore her body a little bit. She encouraged me to get on with it. I placed my rock hard (now covered) cock in her face. She started giving a BBBJ, and did a half decent job of it. She seemed to stop every few seconds, but I made it clear that I wanted more, While she sucked my cock, I explored her body with my hand. Soon, I wanted to enter her. I lay on the bed and asked her to come on top. She hesitated initially, but I insisted. She sat on my cock, and started bouncing on it. I'm convinced she did a lot of kegels, because she managed to get a grip with her vagina that was stronger than my hands, and she managed to concentrate that grip on the tip of my penis. I was not expecting that. With every bounce, I could feel the tightness of her pussy lips, unusually tight, right on my dickhead. Her bounce was calculated so she only needed to bounce up and down a few inches, but god, it was effective. I could feel myself come closer to cumming immediately with every half bounce she did. Soon, I caught on. She was trying to make me cum early. So, I stopped her from bouncing on me, I grabbed her upper body and held her in place, while I thrust my cock deep into her. She moaned. Loudly. I started with slow but deep strokes, and she moaned at the end of every stroke, as my cock went deeper than what I imagine she'd normally allow. I thrust upwards into her when she was sitting upright on me. I grabber her boobs, and used them to guide her up and down (and deep) into her warm pussy. She wasn't as wet as I'm used to, but then again, I didn't do any foreplay with her at all. Soon I pulled her close to me by her neck, and fucked her from below. We went at it for a few minutes, and then I wanted to fuck her in doggy. I roller her around, and she put her face down and ass up. I slowly used my cock to part its way into her pussy. It was pretty tight. I then started thrusting into her faster and faster. I pulled her into me with every thrust, using her waist. I slapped her ass, and I loved hearing her moan. We did doggy for a few minutes, and I pulled her hands back while I fucked her. Occasionally, she let out a scream and told me to go "slowly". Soon I entered the jackhammer mode, and I could feel myself cumming. I thrust harder and harder until I came into the condom. The feeling was amazing, like lightning ripping through the body, starting with the tip of my cock, and dissipating everywhere else. She washed again, we dressed up, and said our goodbyes. She definitely wasn't a semi pro, her confidence, her attitude (how it changed after I handed over the money to the mamas an, all made me pause. I loved the youth in her, and I may do again.

Location – Lokasari near KFC.

I may go back again, if same or similar talent is there.

Price – 300 red notes (a little steep for what felt like a pump-and-dump strategy).

Stykler
11-01-25, 01:59
I was last in Jakarta before Covid, and at that time I was mainly interested in the scene at Mulia / CJ's. My next stop is again Jakarta I'm probably a little too old for the CJ's scene now as live music doesn't do much for me especially at the sound levels I remember at CJ's. From what I can see reading back through this forum, not much has changed there.

Besides BATS or CJ's, does anyone have any decent hotel recommendations where freelancers are easily available in the lobby area where I can pre-screen the freelancer before I agree to her company? If that isn't a reasonable option. I am looking for a quiet low key place to pick up a decent woman without too much hassle. The bar scene is of no interest to me anymore, and the massage scene seems to me a little too much of same-same.

Besides me being a little less fussy, does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.

JamesTpy
11-01-25, 02:03
Jakarta seems like a hidden gem where there is large "strip" clubs like Classic. How does it compare to manila? It seems like these clubs in Jakarta make Jakarta a lesser known top mongering destination.

Metso
11-01-25, 07:05
There is a Luminor hotel next to Loksari, Has anyone stayed in that hotel and taken girls from Loksari into the hotel. I know the Luminor next to Emporium doesn't care but just checking.


I went to Lokasari square pretty late at night, almost half past midnight. The place was far from dead, but wasn't bustling either. A mamasan approached me with a girl in tow. The girl looked like early twenties, no kid, young, tight body, and the perfect clothes to show off the body. She wore a top that accentuated her breasts, and very short shorts, and a spunky attitude. She can't have been taller than 5'3. These made her look younger than she was. Mamasan asked for 500 k, pointed to a hotel closeby and said another 100 k. But I managed to negotiate down, and wore her down to 300 k including room. I think she agreed because of how late it was. But we didn't end up going to the hotel she pointed at. Instead, we walked close by and went to a certain hotel Arcadia, a lodge at best. When we reached the hotel the girl confidently and quickly went into a room, and evacuated it for us. A man and a baby came out of the room and went somewhere. The room itself was tiny, barely able to contain the bed that was inside. The girl stripped to reveal a slim and tight body, and a small curvefull of boobs. She had a nice ass that was a delight to grab and slap, which I did. Her pussy was trimmed, and aesthetically looked very pleasing; it didn't look destroyed, like I expected it. Overall, a good deal for three red notes. She washed up in the bathroom that was too tiny to allow the door to open fully, and came out. I got out of my clothes, and explored her body for a couple of minutes. Her skin was soft, and her body was tight, with next to no body fat. But I couldn't see her ribcage either; it wasn't a malnourished look. She tried to sell me a condom, but I told her I didn't want it, and that I'd fuck her bareback. The condom suddenly became free. My hands roamed around her body, exploring every inch of the teenage volleyball player-like body. Her boobs were taut, and I sucked on them for a few minutes. I knew the arrangement didn't really lend itself to any sort of romance or reciprocity, but I still managed to suck her tits and explore her body a little bit. She encouraged me to get on with it. I placed my rock hard (now covered) cock in her face. She started giving a BBBJ, and did a half decent job of it...

United1
11-01-25, 07:10
Hi Vendelo. I have 24 outcall massage place. I posted a few weeks ago. Look it up. Sorry, don't remember name. They do legit and shady massage.

Came to my door in 30 minutes. Girl was probably a 5/10. Not a hot lass, but does decent massage and nice BJ for under 1 m at your hotel. Nice service.


I literally just got home from Jakarta. I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan. A Tinder girl I saw told me there are many massage shops near Luminor. So I searched in google maps and sure as shit there are. But they're not physical shops. They're 24-hour outcall to your hotel. I wanted to try but got tired of getting catfished (see a previous post of mine).

D Cups
11-01-25, 09:33
Jakarta seems like a hidden gem where there is large "strip" clubs like Classic. How does it compare to manila? It seems like these clubs in Jakarta make Jakarta a lesser known top mongering destination.Disclaimer: I have only been to Jakarta 3 X but MNL dozens of times. In Jakarta, for me, the action was concentrated at Hotel Classic mostly which I loved. I did Hotel Travel once. Classic was better for me. Even had a girl from Classic busty beauty stay with me all night at Holiday Inn which was a nice hotel. Back in 2015 I spent the weekend with a busty DIA find in Jakarta who brought an even bustier (and slim) Muslim GF with her the second night for a great three-some. The Indos tend to have bigger boobs than Filipinas. In MNL, there are two main spots: Makati and Malate. In Makati / Burgos Street you will pay more and generally have a higher quality girl. In Malate / Midnight Haven / L A Cafe is a little cheaper but hit and miss. Mostly miss. Of course there are streetwalkers, too. I think if you are going to go to Manila, you may as well hit Angeles and / or Subic. Cheaper prices. Great variety in Angeles but I prefer the atmosphere in Subic. I'm sure others will add their experience to my brief comparative review.

I Love Boobs
11-01-25, 10:20
How many days to spend here ideally?

3, 4 or 5 nights?

Thanks!

Vendelo
11-01-25, 12:56
Jakarta seems like a hidden gem where there is large "strip" clubs like Classic. How does it compare to manila? It seems like these clubs in Jakarta make Jakarta a lesser known top mongering destination.I've hobbied in Jakarta and Manila. The latter cannot compete with the former because.

Cost.

The beauty of an Indo Pinay.

Quantity.

Quality of girls (subjective).

Accent (subjective; I loathe Tagalog).

Food.

Options (Classic, Emporium, etc.)

Vendelo
11-01-25, 13:04
… Instead, we walked close by and went to a certain hotel Arcadia, a lodge at best. When we reached the hotel the girl confidently and quickly went into a room, and evacuated it for us. A man and a baby came out of the room and went somewhere. The room itself was tiny, barely able to contain the bed that was inside. The girl stripped to reveal a slim and tight body, and a small curvefull of boobs. She had a nice ass that was a delight to grab and slap, which I did. Her pussy was trimmed, and aesthetically looked very pleasing; it didn't look destroyed, like I expected it. Overall, a good deal for three red notes. She washed up in the bathroom that was too tiny to allow the door to open fully, and came out..1. Was she related to the man and baby?

2.300 is US $19. How much less does it need to be for you?

Vendelo
11-01-25, 13:12
Very nice! I was actually thinking about booking a room there since its close by to emporium, which room did you book (standard / double / suite) and was it OK to your liking?I booked the deluxe suite. It was on the 11th floor and had a nice northerly and unobstructed view of Jakarta. The room was very clean and modern. My only complaint was the fridge was not cold and laundry service took longer than expected. There is a beauty that serves coffee near the entrance. Wow!

Cost me US $47 including breakfast buffet that is quite good. On a previous trip I booked the suite that was very nice.

P.S. There's a 24-hour dim sum restaurant two blocks away. The Indomaret across the street has two atms. ATM on the left dispenses 1.250.000 max but you can keep your card inserted and keep withdrawing 1.250.000. Also, if you haven't yet tried Bakso, recommend, which is minutes away:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/LYVxEhJZrt6A1eEA6?g_st=ipc

Vendelo
11-01-25, 13:22
I saw in tgram group people posting time decreased from 90 minutes to 60 minutes for 2 girls and 40 minutes for one girl.

If one more person confirms then they changing rules.

Maybe next time prices will go up soon?I was at Classic several times last week. Each time the phone rings at 45 minutes. I set the timer on my phone at 42 so that I would be notified first before that loud and annoying phone call.

Amadeuss
11-02-25, 04:27
There is a Luminor hotel next to Loksari, Has anyone stayed in that hotel and taken girls from Loksari into the hotel. I know the Luminor next to Emporium doesn't care but just checking.No Problem at all. Take lift from the parking lot.

Rooms are good. Breakfast only Indonesian food.

Bbdbbd
11-02-25, 05:50
1. Was she related to the man and baby?

2.300 is US $19. How much less does it need to be for you?1. Quite possibly, as soon as we reached the lodge, she ran in and cleared the room. It looked like she had done it before. However, it did not look like the man was her husband, and she definitely did not have a kid (no baby damage / stretch marks).

2. It doesn't need to be much less for me. But I would have liked some more interpersonal play for the price. I little bit of foreplay before sex is not too much to ask. $19 has a lot of purchasing power in this part of the world, lord knows that's why some of us are here. But I was not at all disappointed in the deal or the experience, don't get me wrong.

BBD.

Stykler
11-02-25, 13:05
CJ's and BATS aside, what is the freelancer scene like in lobby bars of other 5 star hotels in Jakarta? Are there any stand out hotels? Thanks.

June Fly
11-02-25, 13:08
How many days to spend here ideally?

3, 4 or 5 nights?

Thanks!This is subjective of course. I've visited several times, staying anywhere from 3 to 10 nights. For me, 5 nights feels just about right, first time was 3 nights, felt it was too short to fully explore the place and regretted, while anything beyond 5 nights starts to feel repetitive since there isn't much more to do beyond the main thing I come here for other than malls and visiting nearby cities, Bandung, Bogor, Bekasi. A couple of my Singaporean friends usually come for just three nights, it's a much shorter trip for them, so they visit more often. The reason I stay longer than five nights is that it takes a considerable amount of time and effort to fly from where I live, so I try to make the most of the trip. Have fun!

June Fly
11-02-25, 13:28
There is a Luminor hotel next to Loksari, Has anyone stayed in that hotel and taken girls from Loksari into the hotel. I know the Luminor next to Emporium doesn't care but just checking.Luminor Kota staff are cool and polite. They will often nod approvingly and open the door for you with or without a girl. One time I was asked discreetly if I wanted a girl and even showed me photos on his phone, this is during my first visit when I didn't know much about Jakarta, so I told him I would get back to him later but never did.

June Fly
11-02-25, 13:58
I literally just got home from Jakarta. I stayed at Luminor Pecenongan. A Tinder girl I saw told me there are many massage shops near Luminor. So I searched in google maps and sure as shit there are. But they're not physical shops. They're 24-hour outcall to your hotel. I wanted to try but got tired of getting catfished (see a previous post of mine).

Has anyone tried this?Yes. There are a few of them, physical shops and home services in that area. Most physical shops in and around Pasar Baru and Mangaa Besar are just legitimate massage with occasional teasing (150k-200k for 90 mins), and most home services that come to your hotel room and offer massage (300 k for 90 minutes) plus extra (500 k for he to 1. 5 M for FS, there is no obligation to take extra), even hotels have their own in-house therapists that will send to your room at 450 k for 90 minutes with extra options discussed directly. I've mixed experience with home services, some home services will send photos to choose, but others will mostly provide age range and description. The quality of home services / hotel girls for extra services is not great and at the price point, your choices are far greater at Spas at Classic, Orchardz, Kimochi Mabe, Sugar, so many other options from Utara to Selatan and Timor to Barat in Jakarta.

Joes22
11-02-25, 14:05
Classic closes at 2-2. 30, Girls start wrapping things up at their end, half hour before that. Girls that you take at 2am, will be in room till 3 and then head out. Most girls will not take anyone to room after 2 unless they are desparate.

I have stayed many times till Classic closure.

KI bars are open till 4 but never stayed that late over there.You mean T2 closes at 2 am, or rather 3 am? T1 and T3, which is also the Classic section, should be open until around 5 am, and there's plenty going on there!

Joes22
11-02-25, 14:08
How many days to spend here ideally?

3, 4 or 5 nights?

Thanks!It's not difficult to make a general statement. If you have a nice hotel like the Holiday Inn, then you can stay for 11 days, like I did, and relax.

SuperLove
11-02-25, 14:30
Nothing less than 4 nights, its not worth it otherwise and your trip will not be justified. If you are flying from Europe or America go for 5-6 and if you can manage even 7 nights is good. You need 1 evening just to rest and shrug off jet lag and come to terms with the city, and classic can be very overwhelming for a first time visitor. Do report.


How many days to spend here ideally?

3, 4 or 5 nights?

Thanks!

Steve 9696
11-02-25, 17:08
You mean T2 closes at 2 am, or rather 3 am? T1 and T3, which is also the Classic section, should be open until around 5 am, and there's plenty going on there!Always learning something new! Never heard of T1 till the recent excellent report. Sounds like my kinda place. And if they are open late I am golden.

P.S. Those that know me (Săo Paulo, Barcelona, seeking) know I am a prolific reporter. Expect some detailed reports outs on Classic, Emporium and Seeking in coming days!

ArnoldNe
11-02-25, 18:50
You mean T2 closes at 2 am, or rather 3 am? T1 and T3, which is also the Classic section, should be open until around 5 am, and there's plenty going on there!Yes I meant T2, although curious why you think T1 and 3 will be open till 5 am.

I will verify this myself in my next visit (unless someone can confirm this) couple of months down the line, if it is so then that could give us a couple of hours more to party.

ArnoldNe
11-02-25, 19:06
Dear All,

I have been associated with this forum from the past year and it was very helpful for my pursuit of happiness in Jakarta, however most of the conversations revolve around the same places and they are pretty great to be honest, but one could get bored of going through the same motions while on an international trip, so I personally like to explore few other alternate places just for experience and throwing some light on them for all brothers over here. I had explored couple of alternate places like Fortune and be Fashion etc in my previous visit and also shared detailed reports on them. I was doing some research along the exploration lines for my next visit in Jan'26 and I found a big list of alternate places all of which I haven't explored (Kelapa Gading is a little sketchy and also taxi drivers are hard to go and find there, so I decided to skip it the last time, let me know if it is worth the hassle). I usually go exploring deep in the night I. E. After 9-10 pm till midnight 3-4 am, so I prefer going to safe and public transport accessible places. Anyways sharing list of all places that I came across on the internet, please share or point to any experiences that anyone had in any of below mentioned places and are they worth exploring (some of them are as expensive as Malio, e. G. Alexis, Illegals).

1. Alexis (Highly praised descriptions wherever I read about it).
2. 108 The New Atmosphere (Previously Illegals also very famous).
3. Sumo Shaitsu.
4. V2.
5. Tropical.
6. Imperial.
7. Grand Imperial.
8. Mustika.
9. Double R Massage.
10. Funtasy Massage.
11. Golden Crown.
12. Golden Hand.
13. Cherry Spa (Lokasari).
14. Axiz / M Three massage (Kelapa Gading).
15. Orchardz.
16. Kimochi Mabe.
17. Sugar.
18. Grant MTR
19. Gava
20. Sun City Luxury Club
21. Deep Spa

FernandoAlonso
11-02-25, 22:20
Yes I meant T2, although curious why you think T1 and 3 will be open till 5 am.

I will verify this myself in my next visit (unless someone can confirm this) couple of months down the line, if it is so then that could give us a couple of hours more to party.In my experience all Classic closes 2 am, however on the weekends (Friday / Saturday) with lots of traffic it might be extended to 3 am but I never saw a girl coming home after this, actually earlier is the norm (T2 has a 2 shift model).

LoveItHere69
11-02-25, 22:37
so I personally like to explore few other alternate places just for experience and throwing some light on them for all brothers over here. I had explored couple of alternate places like Fortune and be Fashion etc in my previous visit and also shared detailed reports on them. I was doing some research along the exploration lines for my next visit in Jan'26 and I found a big list of alternate places all of which I haven't explored. I usually go exploring deep in the night I. E. After 9-10 pm till midnight 3-4 am, so I prefer going to safe and public transport accessible places. Anyways sharing list of all places that I came across on the internet, please share or point to any experiences that anyone had in any of below mentioned places and are they worth exploring (some of them are as expensive as Malio, e. G. Alexis, Illegals).So you like to find and explore places over the internet. What a wild concept. So you want ME to actually go to these places for you and let you know how they operate and how much they cost to save you time and money on your next trip in 2026? I will start tomorrow. Funny you did a report on 2 places but leave a list of 21. I will wait for your 2026 exciting report. My simple guess for 90% of your list is that many do not like foreigners, too expensive, and too far out of the way to bother visiting.

FYI I thought StarMoon would open up after a while with payments being made to officials. Guess not. Their sign that stuck out from the building about half a meter and can not be easily reached was painted black. You would never know it was there if you did not know it was there before. Sad.

Vendelo
11-02-25, 23:37
Always learning something new! Never heard of T1 till the recent excellent report. Sounds like my kinda place. And if they are open late I am golden.

P.S. Those that know me (So Paulo, Barcelona, seeking) know I am a prolific reporter. Expect some detailed reports outs on Classic, Emporium and Seeking in coming days!Yes, I'm familiar with your posts on our country forums. I've also mongered outside of Asia and am looking forward to your Jakarta reports. Perhaps you can compare indo girls with those from other countries. Personally I love the beautiful skin, tight bodies and small boobs of Thai, Lao, Khmer and Indo girls. But its really hard for them to compete with a Mexicana when it comes to fucking*.

*I have yet to monger in Colombia or Cuba.

Joes22
11-03-25, 05:25
Yes I meant T2, although curious why you think T1 and 3 will be open till 5 am.

I will verify this myself in my next visit (unless someone can confirm this) couple of months down the line, if it is so then that could give us a couple of hours more to party.How did I come to this conclusion? I was there myself and asked how long "she" had to work, and she said until 5 am I also spoke to some guests in the Classic area who told me that since T2 was closing, "Let's go upstairs, it's open until 5 am " I'll be back next month and will report back.

Joes22
11-03-25, 05:28
In my experience all Classic closes 2 am, however on the weekends (Friday / Saturday) with lots of traffic it might be extended to 3 am but I never saw a girl coming home after this, actually earlier is the norm (T2 has a 2 shift model).Do I understand correctly that you waited until 6 am To see if anyone was still going home at 5 am? That would be strange!

If I'm correct, nobody from T1 or T3 goes home at 2 or 3 am, but rather around 5 am But as I said, I'll double-check.

Joes22
11-03-25, 05:30
So you like to find and explore places over the internet. What a wild concept. So you want ME to actually go to these places for you and let you know how they operate and how much they cost to save you time and money on your next trip in 2026? I will start tomorrow. Funny you did a report on 2 places but leave a list of 21. I will wait for your 2026 exciting report. My simple guess for 90% of your list is that many do not like foreigners, too expensive, and too far out of the way to bother visiting.

FYI I thought StarMoon would open up after a while with payments being made to officials. Guess not. Their sign that stuck out from the building about half a meter and can not be easily reached was painted black. You would never know it was there if you did not know it was there before. Sad.If things continue as usual, a new name will soon be on it.

ArnoldNe
11-03-25, 06:39
So you like to find and explore places over the internet. What a wild concept. So you want ME to actually go to these places for you and let you know how they operate and how much they cost to save you time and money on your next trip in 2026? I will start tomorrow. Funny you did a report on 2 places but leave a list of 21. I will wait for your 2026 exciting report. My simple guess for 90% of your list is that many do not like foreigners, too expensive, and too far out of the way to bother visiting.

FYI I thought StarMoon would open up after a while with payments being made to officials. Guess not. Their sign that stuck out from the building about half a meter and can not be easily reached was painted black. You would never know it was there if you did not know it was there before. Sad.My apologies, if I sent a mixed message, just to clarify I am only asking if anyone who has been to any of these places already (in the past) to share their experience.

I don't expect anyone to explore these for me, I will go there myself (to at least 3-4 of them), but if anyone who has already been there can share their previous experience that could be helpful (that's all).

The 2 places that I mentioned last time (Correction: It was B Fashion and Maxwell not Fortune), were discussed over here and yes until I go there physically I can only read on the internet, I have seen multiple people posting they want to explore alternate places, the 2 were just well known examples so I mentioned them for easy reference but I also visited other places, e.g. there was one small place that I visited which someone had highly praised but I didn't find it worth it (Mari's Mari Enjoy Karaoke and Massage), I also visited Blok M bars (but it was a dead scene over there) D's place Mama was kind enough to give me details that all bars over there were demolished, I had also visited some other small shops I. E. Wijaya-57 and the shops adjacent to it. BTW Most of the South Jakarta places take a long time to reach and also there is a lot of traffic, kills the whole mood, not going there again.

Some of the non-mongering places I visited included the Golf Course (Very good experience), Ancol amusement parks (not worth it coz too crowded), malls in South Jakarta (again too far out).

I like exploring new places, and I will do so in my next visit as well but any existing references help, don't want to waste my time on places that are not welcoming of foreigners, if you are aware that some of these are not foreigner friendly (e. G. I found Col 1001 to be not so friendly) so I will just check them off my list, same for remote places like Kelapa Gading.

Sad to hear about Starmoon, I had visited it last time (didn't find any ladies to my liking, but had 1 beer and spent some time chatting with the mama who was sitting near entrance area), I hope other KI bars are still operational.

Werqweq
11-03-25, 13:55
My apologies, if I sent a mixed message, just to clarify I am only asking if anyone who has been to any of these places already (in the past) to share their experience.
I think your message was clear. Just some seem to like creating noise for no good reason.

Can't help you I'm afraid, as during my short stays (one week or so), I've yet to get past Classic for daytime, michat p4p, or the occasional regular date for the evening, and the rest of the time I'm busy with other stuff.
Also unlike Thailand, I don't particularly enjoy walking/traveling around in Jakarta. Hopefully more experienced guys will chime in.

Jimmyzhu
11-03-25, 14:03
I booked the deluxe suite. It was on the 11th floor and had a nice northerly and unobstructed view of Jakarta. The room was very clean and modern. My only complaint was the fridge was not cold and laundry service took longer than expected. There is a beauty that serves coffee near the entrance. Wow!

Cost me US $47 including breakfast buffet that is quite good. On a previous trip I booked the suite that was very nice.

P.S. There's a 24-hour dim sum restaurant two blocks away. The Indomaret across the street has two atms. ATM on the left dispenses 1.250.000 max but you can keep your card inserted and keep withdrawing 1.250.000. Also, if you haven't yet tried Bakso, recommend, which is minutes away:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/LYVxEhJZrt6A1eEA6?g_st=ipcCheers, going to be heading out on the 7th. Will be trying out the 24/7 Chinese and only drink bottle water to be safe.

I also just installed Telegram and saw the list of girls, unfortunately only a few fit my preferences but perhaps its me being picky. Hopefully it will different when I get there. By the way, could I ask what the weather and temperature is like over there currently?

ArnoldNe
11-03-25, 14:42
I think your message was clear. Just some seem to like creating noise for no good reason.

Can't help you I'm afraid, as during my short stays (one week or so), I've yet to get past Classic for daytime, michat p4p, or the occasional regular date for the evening, and the rest of the time I'm busy with other stuff.
Also unlike Thailand, I don't particularly enjoy walking/traveling around in Jakarta. Hopefully more experienced guys will chime in.Thank you for your response!

LoveItHere69
11-03-25, 15:11
I also visited other places, e.g. there was one small place that I visited which someone had highly praised but I didn't find it worth it (Mari's Mari Enjoy Karaoke and Massage).

Wijaya-57 and the shops adjacent to it. I think I was the first to mention Mari Enjoy. Found a semi-diamond there twice. But I would never recommend the place. Only 10 girls and dirty. There is also a place on the street just north of that at the end on the right side with 11 girls. Found semi-diamond there once. I would not recommend unless you have time to waste on a long vacation which I had.

Wijaya-57 and the 2 next to it all the girls seem hate foreigners based on my personal visit and 3 other identical reports in the past year.

Wijaya-77 and 2 other bars in the area have nothing in the amount of girls except for New Medika (30 girls) but the mamasans ignored me both times I visited and there were only 2 other customers there at the time. I did take one girl from New Medika but it was only so-so ok as I remembered it.

Werqweq. Yeah I am an asshole but I know my stuff in the sandbox that I play in. I never comment on the upper tier places because I never go there like Malio.

I correct wrong info and many lies and hated for it at times. Example, I saw guys who had been posting for years in the Vietnam thread about the number of girls available on the Gaito site in HCMC. During a simple 10 day visit I corrected them as to the true amount and I am considered an A-hole for it. If you think you know the answer please post so I can correct you.

ArnoldNe
11-04-25, 03:11
I think I was the first to mention Mari Enjoy. Found a semi-diamond there twice. But I would never recommend the place. Only 10 girls and dirty. There is also a place on the street just north of that at the end on the right side with 11 girls. Found semi-diamond there once. I would not recommend unless you have time to waste on a long vacation which I had.

Wijaya-57 and the 2 next to it all the girls seem hate foreigners based on my personal visit and 3 other identical reports in the past year.

Wijaya-77 and 2 other bars in the area have nothing in the amount of girls except for New Medika (30 girls) but the mamasans ignored me both times I visited and there were only 2 other customers there at the time. I did take one girl from New Medika but it was only so-so ok as I remembered it.
I didn't find any hate in Wijaya-57 but it was boring, as the setting in the room was not optimal, I asked the girl to only go with HJ so that is all she gave me, but she didn't even budge to show her tits or kiss or anything of the sort, its like you pay for the pizza and then you pay for the toppings too kind of model and the infra is garbage, maybe it is meant for locals only but you pay more for less, which I didn't find acceptable. Nearby shops I just went in and checked the rate cards on reception along with girl photos on the phone.

BTW I searched the forum by specific names of places and found your detailed report on Kelapa Gading, it was helpful.

Alexis seems closed, and Illegals or the new name 108 I am not sure but some concerning reports about papi Alvin scamming people for deposit before action and then going MIA.

Cherry in Loksari seems to have mixed responses, maybe I will dip my toes once in there, since I will be staying close by.

Can you please confirm if other bars except Starmoon in KI are still operational?

Amadeuss
11-04-25, 11:46
Dear All,

I have been associated with this forum from the past year and it was very helpful for my pursuit of happiness in Jakarta, however most of the conversations revolve around the same places and they are pretty great to be honest, but one could get bored of going through the same motions while on an international trip, ......please share or point to any experiences that anyone had in any of below mentioned places and are they worth exploring (some of them are as expensive as Malio, e. G. Alexis, Illegals).There is no difference to all this places. Why roaming round searching for the ultimate paradise but return home disappointed? Get your 2 or 3 places where you become a frequent visitor. Girls will change anyway and the procedure is very uniform in all those "brothels" (yes. They are nothing else).

You enter the room. Talk a little. Slowly dress off. Perhaps a shy kiss on the cheeks. Shower together. Back to the bed (feeling the cold aircon blowing.) she will prepare all her utensils. Once all is ready for action, she may stroke your dick to make it hard for putting on the condom. Some do it with the mouth when starting a blowjob. Lean back and enjoy. She will signal when you can jump her in 2 or 3 positions. Rarely she will allow you to lick her pussy--perhaps touching softly. Now pump away, change positions. Until you cum. She will disappear quick into the shower, you follow. Now you must wash your dick by yourself and she is starting to demand tip tip. Disregardless if you been satisfied or not. Finally open the door. Walk down without much "good bye". Job done.

Therefore: no need for 10 or 20 different places. Just select one and get used to the procedure. And also be aware: whether you pay 350.000 or 1 Mio. There is no difference in beauty because of the price. One time you are lucky and she will have a prime body. At another time you dislike her features once she is naked.

I just had the best performances from young streetgirls but eager to please that she can come back to your room again. And with 200 k or 300 k they do their job quite well!

Expat American
11-04-25, 14:27
There is no difference to all this places. Why roaming round searching for the ultimate paradise but return home disappointed? Get your 2 or 3 places where you become a frequent visitor. Girls will change anyway and the procedure is very uniform in all those "brothels" (yes. They are nothing else).

You enter the room. Talk a little. Slowly dress off. Perhaps a shy kiss on the cheeks. Shower together. Back to the bed (feeling the cold aircon blowing.) she will prepare all her utensils. Once all is ready for action, she may stroke your dick to make it hard for putting on the condom. Some do it with the mouth when starting a blowjob. Lean back and enjoy. She will signal when you can jump her in 2 or 3 positions. Rarely she will allow you to lick her pussy--perhaps touching softly. Now pump away, change positions. Until you cum. She will disappear quick into the shower, you follow. Now you must wash your dick by yourself and she is starting to demand tip tip. Disregardless if you been satisfied or not. Finally open the door. Walk down without much "good bye". Job done.

Therefore: no need for 10 or 20 different places.Your scripted sex is nothing like my normal experiences. I do agree that the quality of girls in most of the low end brothels is the same. But Classic girls always gave me better sex than Travel. And KI girls are less pretentious and more accommodating than Classic. And in Emporium I have got amazing full GFE starting in the pool. I do agree though that chasing the same in far corners of Jakarta is a waste of time. You can get the full gamut of experiences in North Jakarta.

Medellin65
11-04-25, 19:40
I don't know if this can help, I found it in YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrnTHZRU8Jk

Medellin65
11-04-25, 19:44
I just had the best performances from young streetgirls but eager to please that she can come back to your room again. And with 200 k or 300 k they do their job quite well!At what side of Jakarta? Zone, street. Please.

LoveItHere69
11-05-25, 04:05
I don't know if this can help, I found it in YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrnTHZRU8JkHmmm. Watch a video calling that "Boom Boom Street". What a joke. Better just read my reports and learn something.

Werqweq. Just me creating noise again because I go to these places and I am here now (see below).

FYI Malio has Thirsty Thursday banner just up yesterday for November 27. Banner picture seems to show a band and some girl on the other side of the banner, but she is not dressed sexy. Sorry I am unwilling to cross the street to take a picture to find out what all is listed or included. That street is a witch. When places have bands there is a cover charge, more noise, more people, more smoke, etc. I do not want these places to think I am there for these special shows or they will have more of them. I only want a piece of XYZ.


(north side).

Glow Spa 500 k 1 hour.

Across from Travel Hotel. Opened early June and I went there late June. I walked into the entrance room 1.5 m x 1.5 m with a desk and 3-4 guys standing there making it very small. I did not like that. They have a list of 5-6 offerings (HJ, BJ, sex.). But I can get 2 girls for that across the street so I walked out.

Mari Enjoy 300 k 13 girls.

Three streets north of Burger King. Across from Paragon Mall. You are on the correct street when you turn around and see Abuba Steak sign across the street. Bar is on your left. Someone will greet you outside most times. Place is a dump. 1 towel. No tissue to clean up. I took a nice 5 foot girl there, an Oriental face tall girl who had baby damage but firm boobs and laughed a lot, and one other. They get up from sitting rather slowly so I thought they did not want me, but in the room they were fine..

June Fly
11-05-25, 04:39
I don't know if this can help, I found it in YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrnTHZRU8JkThis area is around West Jakarta, near New Medika var on the main Daan Mogot Raya street, Wijaya 77, Cahaya Arwana, and Hotpants on a narrow cross street. Of these, only New Medika is somewhat decent, at least 40 girls on any given night, the other bars don't entertain foreigners and claim to be regular karaoke bars. I found a few not-so-good looking freelancers on that cross street. Unless you already in this part of town, it' is not really worth the trip if you are looking for better options, you will end up disappointed. It is best to stick to North Jakarta instead and save your time and energy.

ArnoldNe
11-05-25, 12:52
Thanks Amadeuss and Expat American, I understand your view points, and I too am with you on the North Jak places being the best. My iteniary will also mostly cycle through Classic, Travel and KI and maybe a dash of Malio or Empo if I feel like it.

But it gets a little boring to have the same type of routine everyday, I don't plan to travel too far from North Jak also, but will be looking up whatever is close enough to explore.

I read few reports on Orchardz spa having a similar hot / cold pool and sauna as Empo in slightly lesser price for more time, so I may check it out and same goes for Sun city, maybe try cherry I guess in Loksari, since I am staying close by I may just step in and out if nothing is worth the time there. I don't mind going to 3-4 more places in a span of 12-13 days to mix it up a bit just for 1 day for short time and then come back to the default place slightly later.

Plantsmoke I saw your messages but your inbox seems full when I tried to reply.

The video you shared is interesting @Medellin65

Vendelo
11-05-25, 13:30
Cheers, going to be heading out on the 7th. Will be trying out the 24/7 Chinese and only drink bottle water to be safe.

I also just installed Telegram and saw the list of girls, unfortunately only a few fit my preferences but perhaps its me being picky. Hopefully it will different when I get there. By the way, could I ask what the weather and temperature is like over there currently?I left Jakarta a week ago.

Very pleasant weather. During the day it was in the mid 80's fahrenheit. Humidity not too bad. I wore t-shirt and shorts day and night. There was some rain but like most of SEA, it rains for a short period of time and stops.

Definitely try the dim sum restaurant. I ate there twice and took some back to my hotel. Har gow, siu mai, char siu bao and a Coke cost me, I think, US $4.00.

I Love Boobs
11-05-25, 13:32
Where can I buy Azithromycin and Doxycycline in Jakarta?

How much does it cost?

Do I need a prescription?

Much thanks in advance.

June Fly
11-05-25, 17:10
Thanks Amadeuss and Expat American, I understand your view points, and I too am with you on the North Jak places being the best. My iteniary will also mostly cycle through Classic, Travel and KI and maybe a dash of Malio or Empo if I feel like it.

But it gets a little boring to have the same type of routine everyday, I don't plan to travel too far from North Jak also, but will be looking up whatever is close enough to explore.

I read few reports on Orchardz spa having a similar hot / cold pool and sauna as Empo in slightly lesser price for more time, so I may check it out and same goes for Sun city, maybe try cherry I guess in Loksari, since I am staying close by I may just step in and out if nothing is worth the time there. I don't mind going to 3-4 more places in a span of 12-13 days to mix it up a bit just for 1 day for short time and then come back to the default place slightly later.

Plantsmoke I saw your messages but your inbox seems full when I tried to reply.

The video you shared is interesting @Medellin65I also enjoy exploring different places always hoping the next experience will be better than the last, though honestly, it is often a hit or miss. One thing I have noticed about Jakarta is its diversity, Javanese, Sundanese, Chinese, Christians, Balinese, Malays, and even a few girls who resemble Koreans, Japanese, even Latinos. With such variety, you can always find someone new who matches your vibe and mood that day and never be bored. Having said, if you find a few places you really like and know well, it is often better to stick to them than constantly searching for something to prove otherwise. During my last visit, I went to Blok M and had a great time, but on the way back, I got caught in heavy rain and was stuck for almost three hours that I could have spent in the North Jakarta bar or in my hotel room.

Ricko85
11-05-25, 19:11
Hello,

It's my second night in Jakarta, and based on the reviews I'd read, I decided to go to Terminal Nightclub on the second floor of the Classic Hotel. As soon as I walked in, a mamasan grabbed my arm, sat me on a stool, and started sending me girls one after another. I told her several times, "I don't want any right now. I'll let you know when I'm ready," but she ignored me. I think she brought in 7 or 8 girls before finally giving up and leaving.

Then I wandered around alone and picked a girl. One girl cost 350,000 IDR for 40 minutes, and two girls cost 500,000 IDR for an hour. The girl I chose was petite and beautiful, probably 22 or 23, but she didn't speak any English. We went up to the room. The air conditioning couldn't be adjusted, and it was quite cold. She gave me a blowjob without a condom, but she didn't know anything about a blowjob. I could feel her teeth. And then she did it doggystyle with a condom. Afterward, she insisted on a tip, so I gave her 100,000 IDR.

I went back to the club area, had a few drinks, and went to the cash register to pay. The cashier girl was rude and unresponsive, wouldn't give me change. She handed me a card and a receipt. When I asked for my change, she pretended not to understand because of the loud music and pointed to the exit. Upon exiting, I handed the card to the stewardess, who asked for a tip. I asked, "What for?" When she realized she wouldn't get a tip, she sullenly said, "Okay, okay," and I left.

Frankly, you can find young and attractive girls here, but pushy and rude staff definitely ruin the overall experience.

I've also read a few posts on this forum comparing Jakarta to Pattaya. Frankly, comparing the two seems unfair to Pattaya. You're not limited to nightclubs or go-go bars in Pattaya; you can meet many friendly freelancers online, on the beach, or elsewhere. You can also easily get the LINE number of a girl you like at a gogo bar and meet her after her shift without paying commission to middlemen.

Another downside of Jakarta is how scattered everything is. You can travel about 25 km with Gojek or InDriver for 50,000-60,000 IDR, but traffic is terrible; it usually takes 50 minutes to an hour to travel that distance.

I'll be staying here for another 12 nights. I'm open to suggestions and will continue to share my experiences.

Banana Boi
11-06-25, 03:30
One girl cost 350,000 IDR for 40 minutes, and two girls cost 500,000 IDR for an hour. They actually tell you it's only 40 minute sessions now? If so it's a bit cheaper to go 500k per 60 minutes and pick a 2nd girl for "free".

Voyager1
11-06-25, 05:21
Hello,

It's my second night in Jakarta, and based on the reviews I'd read, I decided to go to Terminal Nightclub on the second floor of the Classic Hotel. As soon as I walked in, a mamasan grabbed my arm, sat me on a stool, and started sending me girls one after another. I told her several times, "I don't want any right now. I'll let you know when I'm ready," but she ignored me. I think she brought in 7 or 8 girls before finally giving up and leaving.

Then I wandered around alone and picked a girl. One girl cost 350,000 IDR for 40 minutes, and two girls cost 500,000 IDR for an hour. The girl I chose was petite and beautiful, probably 22 or 23, but she didn't speak any English. We went up to the room. The air conditioning couldn't be adjusted, and it was quite cold. She gave me a blowjob without a condom, but she didn't know anything about a blowjob. I could feel her teeth. And then she did it doggystyle with a condom. Afterward, she insisted on a tip, so I gave her 100,000 IDR.

I went back to the club area, had a few drinks, and went to the cash register to pay. The cashier girl was rude and unresponsive, wouldn't give me change. She handed me a card and a receipt. When I asked for my change, she pretended not to understand because of the loud music and pointed to the exit. Upon exiting, I handed the card to the stewardess, who asked for a tip. I asked, "What for?" When she realized she wouldn't get a tip, she sullenly said, "Okay, okay," and I left.

Frankly, you can find young and attractive girls here, but pushy and rude staff definitely ruin the overall experience.

I've also read a few posts on this forum comparing Jakarta to Pattaya. Frankly, comparing the two seems unfair to Pattaya. You're not limited to nightclubs or go-go bars in Pattaya; you can meet many friendly freelancers online, on the beach, or elsewhere. You can also easily get the LINE number of a girl you like at a gogo bar and meet her after her shift without paying commission to middlemen.

Another downside of Jakarta is how scattered everything is. You can travel about 25 km with Gojek or InDriver for 50,000-60,000 IDR, but traffic is terrible; it usually takes 50 minutes to an hour to travel that distance.

I'll be staying here for another 12 nights. I'm open to suggestions and will continue to share my experiences.Try T1 more relaxed and better girls.

Ricko85
11-06-25, 05:40
They actually tell you it's only 40 minute sessions now? If so it's a bit cheaper to go 500k per 60 minutes and pick a 2nd girl for "free".Yes. By the way I made a little mistake in my report. 1 girl not 350 000 idr, 365 000 idr.

Ricko85
11-06-25, 05:41
Try T1 more relaxed and better girls.What is mean T1? I'm really newbie in Jakarta.

Jimmyzhu
11-06-25, 05:59
Hello,

It's my second night in Jakarta, and based on the reviews I'd read, I decided to go to Terminal Nightclub on the second floor of the Classic Hotel. As soon as I walked in, a mamasan grabbed my arm, sat me on a stool, and started sending me girls one after another. I told her several times, "I don't want any right now. I'll let you know when I'm ready," but she ignored me. I think she brought in 7 or 8 girls before finally giving up and leaving.

Then I wandered around alone and picked a girl. One girl cost 350,000 IDR for 40 minutes, and two girls cost 500,000 IDR for an hour. The girl I chose was petite and beautiful, probably 22 or 23, but she didn't speak any English. We went up to the room. The air conditioning couldn't be adjusted, and it was quite cold. She gave me a blowjob without a condom, but she didn't know anything about a blowjob. I could feel her teeth. And then she did it doggystyle with a condom. Afterward, she insisted on a tip, so I gave her 100,000 IDR.Can't you just pay with card at classic?

Amadeuss
11-06-25, 06:02
They actually tell you it's only 40 minute sessions now? If so it's a bit cheaper to go 500k per 60 minutes and pick a 2nd girl for "free".For me it was an hour. As usual. No need to hurry.

ArnoldNe
11-06-25, 06:38
@Ricko85.

Don't baseline your overall experience on one isolated incident, it is generally not like that, I have never been hustled for change in Classic, Mamas can be pushy and I am hearing this 40 mins stuff as a new thing across few posts now, you insist for 1 hour with a girl. That being said not all experiences were through the roof either the proposition is best cost/ time wise but everything depends on the girl and your in room experience and that can vary greatly between girls. 3 some wouldn't be so bad for 1 hour 500 k, I personally never opted for it mainly because 3 some isn't always the heavenly experience that it is advertised as, it can often complicate things in the room especially with language barrier (they can communicate with each other but you can't), they can easily tag team and waste your time without you getting much from it, they can become shy of each other and that may prevent them from doing certain things, if you don't enjoy the vibe and your johnny doesn't get in the mood you might find the embarassment doubled, they will not do anything with eachother so you will be forced to taking turns and 1 hour isn't enough for such an ordeal, you may have to push the agenda if both of them are non responsive it is easier to ditch 1 girl and call out the non performance but it gets complicated with 2 of them together. I would say push for the 1 hour after couple of visits the mamas will also soften (if you use the same one).

@June Fly.

I hear you and most of my exploration ventures have also been a bust in Jak, Blok M was just dry and the travelling time / traffic to South Jak was awful, I will keep this in mind. I do not committ to a place until I see all relevant signals as green and try not to travel too far out (last one was my first visit there so I did it anyways but lesson learnt. Jakarta isn't the place to travel long distances unnecessarily). I also stepped out of the be Fashion club as soon as I heard their proposition without spending a single penny, but at the same time Maxwell turned out alright and rooms were really spacious and good, bathroom had bathtub etc, too bad girls weren't as attractive but pros and cons.

@ I Love Boobs.

Read Gabacho's posts on meds, both of these seem non prescription, although in Jak you can get the prescription ones also without one. Read through his posts, there are shop names along with locations.

@plant smoke
Still getting your inbox full message.
Short answer to your DMs.

I didn't go to Fortune (mentioned that by mistake, but I know it is a place, have read some reviews here, you can search it in the forum), I did not stay at Blok M and B Fashion girls are pretty but rates are too high and they ask for 1.5m without promise of FS (which I found very weird).

ps: I know @ sign doesn't mean anything here functionally but I am just using it as a symbolic gesture.

Dme8080
11-06-25, 08:08
Good day fellow mongers, I have been out of the p4 p scene for a few years, I used to be a somewhat an active member here years ago (lost access to the old account), I mainly frequented west Africa and Thailand, never been in Indonesia before.

I have an upcoming 7-hour layover in Jakarta around noon followed by another 12 hours in Balikpapan.

Any tips for and guaranteed action near the airport and in Balikpapan during this short window. I am a seaman and this trip will be every 3 months and other stoos and my home country are mongering wastelands.

Any help would be appreciated and I intend to report in case it pans out.

Asian Rain
11-06-25, 08:23
Frankly, you can find young and attractive girls here, but pushy and rude staff definitely ruin the overall experience.With experience, you will learn to anticipate these interactions and manage the staff accordingly. Ignore the pushy interactions and focus on the girls.


You're not limited to nightclubs or go-go bars in Pattaya; you can meet many friendly freelancers online, on the beach, or elsewhere. You can also easily get the LINE number of a girl you like at a gogo bar and meet her after her shift without paying commission to middlemen.With the exception of beach trawling, you can do all of these things in Jakarta too. It is just as easy to get a girl's WhatsApp in Jakarta as it is to get a LINE contact in Pattaya. If interested PM me, I can share a tried-and-tested method for doing this.


Another downside of Jakarta is how scattered everything is. You can travel about 25 km with Gojek or InDriver for 50,000-60,000 IDR, but traffic is terrible; it usually takes 50 minutes to an hour to travel that distance.That's why visitors (and a good part of the sexpats) seem to stick to the Meat Market Triad in North Jakarta. Any deviation carries a potential severe time cost penalty. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

Paolo99
11-06-25, 11:07
I went back to the club area, had a few drinks, and went to the cash register to pay. The cashier girl was rude and unresponsive, wouldn't give me change. She handed me a card and a receipt. When I asked for my change, she pretended not to understand because of the loud music and pointed to the exit. Upon exiting, I handed the card to the stewardess, who asked for a tip. I asked, "What for?" When she realized she wouldn't get a tip, she sullenly said, "Okay, okay," and I left.

Frankly, you can find young and attractive girls here, but pushy and rude staff definitely ruin the overall experience.If you absolutely want your change back just stay in front of her and don't move. Don't talk, but make a hand gesture (politely) pointing at the cash showing her you want your full cash back.

She will pretend she doesn't have the change, but as you stay in front of her and the next customer cannot get in front, she will eventually pretend to search in her own bag or ask a colleague to give her the cash, but you'll get your cash back with 100% certainty.

I've done it a dozen times and always had my change back. Then, after a few other attempts they will remember you and not going to try it anymore knowing you're going to be firm.

Vendelo
11-06-25, 17:34
They actually tell you it's only 40 minute sessions now? If so it's a bit cheaper to go 500k per 60 minutes and pick a 2nd girl for "free".I was there 2 weeks ago.

It is not a 40-minute session. The cost is 365 for one girl or 500 for two girls for a one hour session BUT they call your room at the 45-minute mark and you have 15 minutes to exit.

Vendelo
11-06-25, 17:35
What is mean T1? I'm really newbie in Jakarta.RTFF a few pages back.

Vendelo
11-06-25, 17:48
…The cashier girl was rude and unresponsive, wouldn't give me change. She handed me a card and a receipt. When I asked for my change, she pretended not to understand because of the loud music and pointed to the exit. Upon exiting, I handed the card to the stewardess, who asked for a tip. I asked, "What for?" When she realized she wouldn't get a tip, she sullenly said, "Okay, okay," and I left..Its the fat gal on the right? Am I correct.

My first night I didn't realize she kept the change until I left the building.

The next time I got change from the other gal. I wrote in Google Translate: YOU KEPT MY CHANGE LAST NIGHT and showed the fat girl. She said something stupid.

And on the way out, I turned in my "card" to the girl. She held two hands out. I stiffed her the night before so gave her a 50. Suddenly another girl appeared with open hands. I said "no, what did you do?

Then I tipped doorman which I usually do. Suddenly 5-6 security guys move fast towards me. I said firmly "no" and left. Frickin beggars.

Vendelo
11-06-25, 17:52
With experience, you will learn to anticipate these interactions and manage the staff accordingly. Ignore the pushy interactions and focus on the girls.

With the exception of beach trawling, you can do all of these things in Jakarta too. It is just as easy to get a girl's WhatsApp in Jakarta as it is to get a LINE contact in Pattaya. If interested PM me, I can share a tried-and-tested method for doing this.

That's why visitors (and a good part of the sexpats) seem to stick to the Meat Market Triad in North Jakarta. Any deviation carries a potential severe time cost penalty. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.Please PM me. I've trolled Grand Indonesia Mall 3 x without success.

I would like to add that a seasoned Tinder gal I met told me the area around Emporium you can approach girls on the sidewalk and some may proposition you.

Ricko85
11-06-25, 19:13
Hello again,

Today is my third day in Jakarta. In the afternoon, I decided to try DHeaven Hotel and Spa, which I found on Instagram. They welcomed me politely at the lobby and, just like in the Classic Hotel, they put a wristband with a number on my wrist.

I went up to the bar area on the 2nd floor. A mamasan approached me and showed me photos of girls on her tablet. I wanted to see the girls in person, but she refused. I told her I wanted a slim masseuse with big breasts who was good at blowjob. She showed me one girl, and I agreed. The room price was 440,000 IDR and, if I remember correctly, 350,000 IDR for the girl 90 minutes, one shot, and massage included.

When I left the club, I paid a total of 880,000 IDR for two Cokes, a massage, and sex. The masseuse was young and beautiful, but she didn't know much about massage. She rubbed my back and arms a bit, then took off her underwear and waited for me to have sex. She was very passionate. First, I started fingering her pussy hard. Then, she gave me a nice blowjob without a condom, and then sex with a condom.

I probably spent no more than 40 minutes in the room, even though the session was supposed to be 90 minutes. Not a bad service overall, but compared to the soapy massage parlors in Thailand, the massage part was quite low quality.

Compared to the Classic Hotel, all the staff at the DHeaven were much more respectful. Also, no one asked me for a tip. Yes, it's more expensive than the Classic, and not being able to see the girls face to face is a disadvantage, but I was still satisfied because the staff were polite.

Vendelo
11-06-25, 21:19
Hello again,

Today is my third day in Jakarta. In the afternoon, I decided to try DHeaven Hotel and Spa, which I found on Instagram. They welcomed me politely at the lobby and, just like in the Classic Hotel, they put a wristband with a number on my wrist.

I went up to the bar area on the 2nd floor. A mamasan approached me and showed me photos of girls on her tablet. I wanted to see the girls in person, but she refused. I told her I wanted a slim masseuse with big breasts who was good at blowjob. She showed me one girl, and I agreed. The room price was 440,000 IDR and, if I remember correctly, 350,000 IDR for the girl 90 minutes, one shot, and massage included.

When I left the club, I paid a total of 880,000 IDR for two Cokes, a massage, and sex. The masseuse was young and beautiful, but she didn't know much about massage. She rubbed my back and arms a bit, then took off her underwear and waited for me to have sex. She was very passionate. First, I started fingering her pussy hard. Then, she gave me a nice blowjob without a condom, and then sex with a condom..Thanks for taking the time to prepare a report. Much appreciated. I will add this fine establishment into my next trip, which I hope to Allah is January.

Offshore Swell
11-06-25, 22:08
Where can I buy Azithromycin and Doxycycline in Jakarta?

How much does it cost?

Do I need a prescription?

Much thanks in advance.At any second tier apotek.

Not much.

No.

You're welcome.

June Fly
11-06-25, 22:24
Hello,

It's my second night in Jakarta, and based on the reviews I'd read, I decided to go to Terminal Nightclub on the second floor of the Classic Hotel. As soon as I walked in, a mamasan grabbed my arm, sat me on a stool, and started sending me girls one after another. I told her several times, "I don't want any right now. I'll let you know when I'm ready," but she ignored me. I think she brought in 7 or 8 girls before finally giving up and leaving.

Then I wandered around alone and picked a girl. One girl cost 350,000 IDR for 40 minutes, and two girls cost 500,000 IDR for an hour. The girl I chose was petite and beautiful, probably 22 or 23, but she didn't speak any English. We went up to the room. The air conditioning couldn't be adjusted, and it was quite cold. She gave me a blowjob without a condom, but she didn't know anything about a blowjob. I could feel her teeth. And then she did it doggystyle with a condom. Afterward, she insisted on a tip, so I gave her 100,000 IDR.

I went back to the club area, had a few drinks, and went to the cash register to pay. The cashier girl was rude and unresponsive, wouldn't give me change. She handed me a card and a receipt. When I asked for my change, she pretended not to understand because of the loud music and pointed to the exit. Upon exiting, I handed the card to the stewardess, who asked for a tip. I asked, "What for?" When she realized she wouldn't get a tip, she sullenly said, "Okay, okay," and I left.

Frankly, you can find young and attractive girls here, but pushy and rude staff definitely ruin the overall experience.

I've also read a few posts on this forum comparing Jakarta to Pattaya. Frankly, comparing the two seems unfair to Pattaya. You're not limited to nightclubs or go-go bars in Pattaya; you can meet many friendly freelancers online, on the beach, or elsewhere. You can also easily get the LINE number of a girl you like at a gogo bar and meet her after her shift without paying commission to middlemen.

Another downside of Jakarta is how scattered everything is. You can travel about 25 km with Gojek or InDriver for 50,000-60,000 IDR, but traffic is terrible; it usually takes 50 minutes to an hour to travel that distance.

I'll be staying here for another 12 nights. I'm open to suggestions and will continue to share my experiences.Unless something has changed recently, at Classic Terminal 2 the cost is 365 K for one and 500 K for two. When you give 400 K for one, the mamasan usually returns with 35 K stapled as change. After the session, when you go to the cashier, they will charge 5 K for the entry ticket, or 30 K minimum if you didn't take anyone or order any food. It seems that in your case, the mamasan didn't return the change, which likely caused the confusion.

Voyager1
11-06-25, 22:45
Went to 1001. After being seated had papa approach and wanted to know if I wanted an indo or the non indo. No pricing info. Told him wanted to finish beer before deciding. That was it. Never saw him again. Apparently only he spoke English. No other mama spoke English. In fact the iPad were all in Chinese, the main clientele. Sat and roamed for an hour without being able to get papa back. Started thinking if the girls were worth the 1. 7 m. After needing to chase papa decided to leave as I thought girls are about the same as Classic and couldn't justify 5 x the price. Decided to go to classic t1. Got there at 12:30 . Scanned for about 40 min and spotted a solid 7. Asked mama to bring her over. This is where I was floored as she declined. Wtf did not know this could happen. It was 1:30 now and a lot of yawning going on. So cut my losses and left. Hopefully things will be better tonight as the night before I got what I wanted and more.

June Fly
11-06-25, 23:21
I stayed at Orchardz Hotel Jayakarta for five days and got a corner Deluxe King Room, which was spacious and comfortable for about $35 per night including a breakfast buffet. During my stay, I visited the much talked about Grand Boutique Spa located on the hotel premises. Contrary to what others have mentioned, I couldn't find any "secret entrance" to the spa through the hotel restaurant, access from floors 2 and 3 on the elevator appears to have been blocked. The front desk informed me that I had to exit the hotel, either through the main entrance or via the side entrance near the conference center and then walk to the back where the Grand Boutique Spa is located.

Once inside the spa, I was given a wristband at the first front desk by a male staff and directed inside through a short dimly lit orchid pathway to the second front desk staffed by a female. Here, she showed the three massage packages, all includes FS: 1) Therapist 805 K, 2) VIP Gold 855 K, 3) VIP Model 1200 K. I asked for someone who is open to DFK, at the time, there were only two, one milf therapist and one VIP Gold college type girl shown on the tablet, I chose the VIP Gold, a 22 yr old slim girl from Medan, Java, she could have been a Classic girl, good looking but not stunning. The front desk called the girl and spoke to her briefly. She then asked where I was from, saying the girl wanted to know for DFK. After I told her, they both sealed the deal, I was taken to a room on the third Floor with a high riser metal frame bed, firm mattress, mirrors all around and a shower. The girl walks in about 5 minutes, undresses, gives a massage for about 15 minutes on the back and then flips me for front massages for about 10 minutes Nuru style. She took me to shower, washed / teased me good, we then jumped back on the bed, followed by passionate DFK, DATY for a good 30 minutes, then finished inside her. It was one of the best DATY I had, her pussy smelled and tasted great, let me go in deeper and deeper with choreographed moves / pushes, felt like eating the reddest, juiciest Jambu air fruit I ever had the pleasure of sinking my tongue into, she intimately enjoyed it too.

Then I took the elevator down, spent some time in the waiting area and the cold and hot pools, paid at the front desk, and went back to my room to rest. The total cost was 905 K (855 K for the VIP Gold package plus a 50 K tip, which wasn't required since it's all-inclusive). I received about 75 minutes in total, and it was well worth it.

Vendelo
11-07-25, 03:41
Unless something has changed recently, at Classic Terminal 2 the cost is 365 K for one and 500 K for two. When you give 400 K for one, the mamasan usually returns with 35 K stapled as change. After the session, when you go to the cashier, they will charge 5 K for the entry ticket, or 30 K minimum if you didn't take anyone or order any food. It seems that in your case, the mamasan didn't return the change, which likely caused the confusion.I was at Classic, T2 and T5, two weeks ago and I concur.

Vendelo
11-07-25, 03:46
I stayed at Orchardz Hotel Jayakarta for five days and got a corner Deluxe King Room, which was spacious and comfortable for about $35 per night including a breakfast buffet. During my stay, I visited the much talked about Grand Boutique Spa located on the hotel premises. Contrary to what others have mentioned, I couldn't find any "secret entrance" to the spa through the hotel restaurant, access from floors 2 and 3 on the elevator appears to have been blocked. The front desk informed me that I had to exit the hotel, either through the main entrance or via the side entrance near the conference center and then walk to the back where the Grand Boutique Spa is located.

Once inside the spa, I was given a wristband at the first front desk by a male staff and directed inside through a short dimly lit orchid pathway to the second front desk staffed by a female. Here, she showed the three massage packages, all includes FS: 1) Therapist 805 K, 2) VIP Gold 855 K, 3) VIP Model 1200 K. I asked for someone who is open to DFK, at the time, there were only two, one milf therapist and one VIP Gold college type girl shown on the tablet, I chose the VIP Gold, a 22 yr old slim girl from Medan, Java, she could have been a Classic girl, good looking but not stunning. The front desk called the girl and spoke to her briefly. She then asked where I was from, saying the girl wanted to know for DFK. After I told her, they both sealed the deal, I was taken to a room on the third Floor with a high riser metal frame bed, firm mattress, mirrors all around and a shower. The girl walks in about 5 minutes, undresses, gives a massage for about 15 minutes on the back and then flips me for front massages for about 10 minutes Nuru style..What do you suppose was the girl's preferences and non-preferences on ethnicity for DFK?

Plant Smoke
11-07-25, 04:45
It took me three visits to find the "restaurant" at Malio. Why? First of all don't call it a fucking restaurant. Call it what the staff call it! Its a lounge!

There are two platforms of girls. The two floors / platforms (at the lounge) are at different levels connected with a small flight of stairs. The girls on the.

Lower platform are the indos. Talk to papasan vindo, a charming man. Live band played a rendition / tweak of sounds of silence disturbed awesome.

Confusion? The first time the staff ridiculed me, laughed behind my back, that I could not find the lounge. Then they would point down a hall as if to say.

"Its down there" , without taking me there holding my fucking hand.

How did I finally get there? Well I entered initially thru the second side entrance which leads into the club. The venue with strip tease, a dj pit, shots girls.

I told a staff girl to take me to the other bar. Well she did not take me outside to enter thru the first entance. What she did wass take me into the elevator, up to the fourth.

Floor. Fourth floor written in stone! There is the hallway that connects the two elevator shafts, the two buildings. There is no other way to get from club to club unless you go outside!

That's the architecture! I rely on this forum to give me accurate concise information and in regards to malio, they have botched it!

JuneFly is one who knows how to write posts with specific information. Incredibly he wrote about Orchardz just yesterday and was cognizant enough to tell.

You he was talking about the Jakarta location. Well done mate. Malio, the club looks like the best place in Jakarta to pick up a girl with big tits! How do you do it?

I saw lineups at the club, but did not really see a mamasan? What are the short time prices at the club?

In conclusion to go to the lounge (a more appropriate name would be *****house) simply from outside, go thru the first entrance and walk the stairs up to the second floor!

There its fixed! Bummer I have to do the heavy lifting around here!

ArnoldNe
11-07-25, 06:52
I stayed at Orchardz Hotel Jayakarta for five days and got a corner Deluxe King Room, which was spacious and comfortable for about $35 per night including a breakfast buffet. During my stay, I visited the much talked about Grand Boutique Spa located on the hotel premises. Contrary to what others have mentioned, I couldn't find any "secret entrance" to the spa through the hotel restaurant, access from floors 2 and 3 on the elevator appears to have been blocked. The front desk informed me that I had to exit the hotel, either through the main entrance or via the side entrance near the conference center and then walk to the back where the Grand Boutique Spa is located..Thank you for the reports on new places.

Also Rick for the Heaven.

Offshore Swell
11-07-25, 11:03
Went to 1001. After being seated had papa approach and wanted to know if I wanted an indo or the non indo. No pricing info. Told him wanted to finish beer before deciding. That was it. Never saw him again. Apparently only he spoke English. No other mama spoke English. In fact the iPad were all in Chinese, the main clientele. Sat and roamed for an hour without being able to get papa back. Started thinking if the girls were worth the 1. 7 m. After needing to chase papa decided to leave as I thought girls are about the same as Classic and couldn't justify 5 x the price. Decided to go to classic t1. Got there at 12:30 . Scanned for about 40 min and spotted a solid 7. Asked mama to bring her over. This is where I was floored as she declined. Wtf did not know this could happen. It was 1:30 now and a lot of yawning going on. So cut my losses and left. Hopefully things will be better tonight as the night before I got what I wanted and more.You are most likely what will be an early victim of the self licking ice cream that Jakarta is becoming. IQ and discretion have never been a standout feature of a lot of the posters here so the quality of Jakarta visitors is in slow decline.

Vendelo
11-07-25, 11:38
Hello again,

Today is my third day in Jakarta. In the afternoon, I decided to try DHeaven Hotel and Spa, which I found on Instagram. They welcomed me politely at the lobby and, just like in the Classic Hotel, they put a wristband with a number on my wrist.

I went up to the bar area on the 2nd floor. A mamasan approached me and showed me photos of girls on her tablet. I wanted to see the girls in person, but she refused. I told her I wanted a slim masseuse with big breasts who was good at blowjob. She showed me one girl, and I agreed. The room price was 440,000 IDR and, if I remember correctly, 350,000 IDR for the girl 90 minutes, one shot, and massage included.

When I left the club, I paid a total of 880,000 IDR for two Cokes, a massage, and sex. The masseuse was young and beautiful, but she didn't know much about massage. She rubbed my back and arms a bit, then took off her underwear and waited for me to have sex. She was very passionate. First, I started fingering her pussy hard. Then, she gave me a nice blowjob without a condom, and then sex with a condom.

I probably spent no more than 40 minutes in the room, even though the session was supposed to be 90 minutes. Not a bad service overall, but compared to the soapy massage parlors in Thailand, the massage part was quite low quality..Thanks for the report. Too bad on getting shorted on the time. I checked their IG. There are some pretty girls and some with big butts. Is your girl featured in any of the IG reels?

https://www.instagram.com/dheaven_gwc?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Safado70
11-07-25, 14:51
About Orchardz Hotel.

I would like to check if I understood you correctly.

You got BBFSCIP without asking and tipped 50 k?

Plant Smoke
11-07-25, 15:53
I see it time after time after time after time after time. At 8 PM, terminal 2 classic there are girls coming out of the "woodwork" that you don't see at 6 pm.

One of two things? There is a third shift of girls that starts at 8 pm or girls are "hiding" in the back? Because of the chicanery that I see going on at term 2.

(Including, can't sugarcoat it, say it like a man, Asian favoritism) I have re-considered being friendly with mamasans. Not for the lineups, that are a nuisance.

But for the very real possibility she could turn you on to her "stash". What is appropriate to grease the wheels? A hundo. Unfortunately this could turn into feeding.

Pigeons at the park picnic table? Better than seeing the hottie, that is seemingly wearing track shoes, escape into the darkness.

Countless posters have been lazy here talking about Orchardz and not telling you the location. The industri location seems to be more popular than the Jayakarta location, no?

Speaking of Wijaya 57, you know there seems to be a "hotbed" of spas over there including Bliss massage, the green spa and massage, envy massage, fee massage, red light massage, Q-ONE.

Grandpa massage. All over there south of dan mogot, grogol. Any intel? Anybody?

Steve 9696
11-08-25, 02:37
There are quite a few little bits and pieces here about the Classic Hotel and its clubs. Now that I have firsthand knowledge, I thought a summary might be helpful.

There are three primary clubs, often referred to as T1, T2 and T5, representing their respective floors. Although T1 is on the ground floor not floor 1. It's technically called Classic Club.

The biggest and most popular one is T2 and it is mega! Easily 100-150 girls there when I arrived around 10. Vibey and loud atmosphere, with pounding beats, which was great for me but some of you might be put off. They also have about 6-8 pool tables ($5/ HR to rent) around the left side.

All the stories about the pushy mamasans are true. They will grab you and seat you and start bringing girls using their laser to target them. It feels a bit mean to the girls but you just have to be firm and send them away and tell the mama firmly no you don't want any girls yet.

Better yet don't let them engage you. I ended up bopping between all three clubs over a five hour period and got to where I'the treat the mamasans at the entry like street walkers in Bangkok. Look past them and just plow onward and if they grab you brush them off and keep going.

There is a stage where they had gogo dancers at first, then later a band or DJ, and then back to the gogo dancers late night. There are various couch's around the perimeter where the girls sit. Once you fend off the mamas you can cruise around and check out all the different couches. The overall club vibe is pumping.

T5 has a different vibe. It had a band and the mamasans are completely different. No one will grab you. They might try to bring you girls if you settle in or they might ignore you. The girls are seated stadium style on either side of the stage. The main area is all high top bar tables.

And finally T1 has yet a different vibe. It's primarily couch and lounge chair seating. Has a DJ and two pool tables. The girls are all in one end in maybe ten rows of stadium style seating. For me this was a bit more awkward because you can't "cruise past" and half the girls are quite faraway. This would def be the club though if you just wanted to chill with some buddies. Most relaxed vibe of the three.

Now here is the great news! You can do them all! I was stunned to grab a beer in T2 and spend maybe an hour being gobsmacked. I mean it really is stunning and if you like south asian girls like I do it's a target rich environment. After that hour, on exit my bill was USD $3. 58. LOL. Hit T5 and same deal. One beer and exit. $3. 58. T1 is a bit more at a whopping $4. 79. And if you don't get a beer and just exit the cover is $2-3 depending on the club. So bouncing between them is pocket change. I think I did 2,5,1,2,5,2,1 😜.

Girls are similarly cheap. Had an amazing time with a T2 girl for $22 usd (365 K is standard price at T2 and T5). A bit more at T1 but still ridiculously low. Also had a total dud time with a girl from T5 and called it off after 5 minutes. But couldn't care less at $22/ fuck. LOL.

And lastly the hotel itself. I stayed here one night just to catch the vibe. For $35/ night it's hard to beat, especially considering you can just exit the club and flop into bed. The public spaces are actually quite luxe like 4 star stuff. And the staff is great and numerous.

But the rooms are older and run down. For example the cold water in the sink didn't work. And the only way to turn out one set of lights was unscrew the bulbs. The mattress is a bit thin and cheap. But it's clean and adequate. If your main goal is to come and fuck at Classic you could hardly go wrong staying here.

In summary:

A stunning place to visit. Especially if you have never seen the "fishbowl" type arrangement before. It's mind blowing to watch the mamasans laser a girl down for a prospect. Or wash a bunch of girls with the laser to pull for a lineup.

T2 - Loud. Vibey. Pushy. But easiest to stroll and see the girls.

T1 - less loud. But still loud. Very much a lounge vibe (but not the music). Stadium at one end is awkward.

T5 - middle ground.

And staying at Classic is perfectly viable. 4 star staff and public spaces and 2 star rooms.

P.S. They appear to close between 2- 3 AM. When I came down to T1 maybe 2:15 the greeting staff were gone but a guy let me in. Then at 2:45 a guy made a hand motion and said something in Indonesian and all the girls got up and thundered like cattle to get their purses. Ok that will shut it down!

PPS. I didn’t have any problem with the charges or the cashier trying to keep my change. I literally exited like 6-7 times last night and it was always super professional. But a coupe girls tried to run a scam. They came on hard to me in my chair. Tits out. Grinding having me feel their tits. Wanted shots. Ok they are $2 each. And then they wanted a total of 3. I acquiesced. I mean it’s not expensive. But the scam part was they were taking partially empty shots off the tray and filing their glass and at the end each had five glasses and said that’s what I owed and the waitress said same. I held firm and she fixed it back to three shots. I will say they are pretty fair there on balance they make u sign each slip so there is no misunderstanding and I would not sign till she changed it to three.

LAHenry
11-08-25, 04:47
There are quite a few little bits and pieces here about the Classic Hotel and its clubs. Now that I have firsthand knowledge, I thought a summary might be helpful.

There are three primary clubs, often referred to as T1, T2 and T5, representing their respective floors. Although T1 is on the ground floor not floor 1. It's technically called Classic Club.

The biggest and most popular one is T2 and it is mega! Easily 100-150 girls there when I arrived around 10. Vibey and loud atmosphere, with pounding beats, which was great for me but some of you might be put off. They also have about 6-8 pool tables ($5/ HR to rent) around the left side.

All the stories about the pushy mamasans are true. They will grab you and seat you and start bringing girls using their laser to target them. It feels a bit mean to the girls but you just have to be firm and send them away and tell the mama firmly no you don't want any girls yet.

Better yet don't let them engage you. I ended up bopping between all three clubs over a five hour period and got to where I'the treat the mamasans at the entry like street walkers in Bangkok. Look past them and just plow onward and if they grab you brush them off and keep going.

There is a stage where they had gogo dancers at first, then later a band or DJ, and then back to the gogo dancers late night. There are various couch's around the perimeter where the girls sit. Once you fend off the mamas you can cruise around and check out all the different couches. The overall club vibe is pumping.

T5 has a different vibe. It had a band and the mamasans are completely different. No one will grab you. They might try to bring you girls if you settle in or they might ignore you. The girls are seated stadium style on either side of the stage. The main area is all high top bar tables.

And finally T1 has yet a different vibe. It's primarily couch and lounge chair seating. Has a DJ and two pool tables. The girls are all in one end in maybe ten rows of stadium style seating. For me this was a bit more awkward because you can't "cruise past" and half the girls are quite faraway. This would def be the club though if you just wanted to chill with some buddies. Most relaxed vibe of the three.

Now here is the great news! You can do them all! I was stunned to grab a beer in T2 and spend maybe an hour being gobsmacked. I mean it really is stunning and if you like south asian girls like I do it's a target rich environment. After that hour, on exit my bill was USD $3. 58. LOL. Hit T5 and same deal. One beer and exit. $3. 58. T1 is a bit more at a whopping $4. 79. And if you don't get a beer and just exit the cover is $2-3 depending on the club. So bouncing between them is pocket change. I think I did 2,5,1,2,5,2,1 😜.

Girls are similarly cheap. Had an amazing time with a T2 girl for $22 usd (365 K is standard price at T2 and T5). A bit more at T1 but still ridiculously low. Also had a total dud time with a girl from T5 and called it off after 5 minutes. But couldn't care less at $22/ fuck. LOL.

And lastly the hotel itself. I stayed here one night just to catch the vibe. For $35/ night it's hard to beat, especially considering you can just exit the club and flop into bed. The public spaces are actually quite luxe like 4 star stuff. And the staff is great and numerous.

But the rooms are older and run down. For example the cold water in the sink didn't work. And the only way to turn out one set of lights was unscrew the bulbs. The mattress is a bit thin and cheap. But it's clean and adequate. If your main goal is to come and fuck at Classic you could hardly go wrong staying here.

In summary:

A stunning place to visit. Especially if you have never seen the "fishbowl" type arrangement before. It's mind blowing to watch the mamasans laser a girl down for a prospect. Or wash a bunch of girls with the laser to pull for a lineup.

T2 - Loud. Vibey. Pushy. But easiest to stroll and see the girls.

T1 - less loud. But still loud. Very much a lounge vibe (but not the music). Stadium at one end is awkward.

T5 - middle ground.

And staying at Classic is perfectly viable. 4 star staff and public spaces and 2 star rooms.

P.S. They appear to close between 2- 3 AM. When I came down to T1 maybe 2:15 the greeting staff were gone but a guy let me in. Then at 2:45 a guy made a hand motion and said something in Indonesian and all the girls got up and thundered like cattle to get their purses. Ok that will shut it down!

PPS. I didnt have any problem with the charges or the cashier trying to keep my change. I literally exited like 6-7 times last night and it was always super professional. But a coupe girls tried to run a scam. They came on hard to me in my chair. Tits out. Grinding having me feel their tits. Wanted shots. Ok they are $2 each. And then they wanted a total of 3. I acquiesced. I mean its not expensive. But the scam part was they were taking partially empty shots off the tray and filing their glass and at the end each had five glasses and said thats what I owed and the waitress said same. I held firm and she fixed it back to three shots. I will say they are pretty fair there on balance they make u sign each slip so there is no misunderstanding and I would not sign till she changed it to three.Which Terminal — T1, T2, or T3 had the best girls (young < 24 yrs, slim, and pretty) ? How would you rank the girl quality what you saw compared to say Globe FKK, Sharks FKK, or WS AGOGO, or Patpong KC2 Agogo?

Turgid
11-08-25, 20:41
Unless something has changed recently, at Classic Terminal 2 the cost is 365 K for one ......Wow, that's the same price I paid in my visit in 2015.