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Hatguy
07-20-11, 08:48
Don't be too hard on him. We all have to start somewhere!

It sucks at the beginning. You don't know where to go because the posts are quite old. This forums just picked up recently with a bunch of kinda like minded people. P4P is a bit too damn expensive for my liking even at 10000 yen a throw. A BBBJ in Tennoji isn't too bad at 7000 including free beer to get your mind off things. But still want to find something cheaper of course.

I wasnt going to say this, but if you are really hard up, and can put up with anything go down to Tobita and look for the VERY outskirts. You might on a very quiet night get what you want for 7000 yen or less even. Now the women there are old and VERY bad looking but if you are REALLY hard up and can't afford the high prices of the main street you might be able to find a MILF there. I haven't seen any but it MAY be possible. YMMV a shitload of course!

Hatguy

KobeGuy
07-20-11, 15:25
Thanks Seniors, Hatguy and Aussiegaigin, for the fruitful proposals.

And hey Aussie, I wasn't looking for a smartass' comment. The other posts seemed to be a bit more encouraging. Had a bad day? But ok, with time I might find s. Th. To post. Cheers men.

Lion
07-21-11, 01:57
Hi folks,

I'm pretty new in the Kobe area and scanned through the posts and your recommendations. I didn't find the hot tips for Kobe downtown itself, gaijin friendly clubs, bars with all-offering girls, escorts and outcalls, or hot services in a somewhat decent atmosphere. It's not easy for a newbie to find it through all the glitter lights. Especially without speaking any Japanese. So, from all your expertise, could you pass me on your latest hints regarding Kobe's night&sex life?

Thanks, cheers, KobeguyAussiegaijin is right that a little RTFF and asking specific questions goes a long way towards getting helpful answers from senior members.

Using the search function I found 10 posts on Kobe in 5 seconds. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=416664

That said, Kobe is not like Osaka, and 90% of the places do not accept non-Asians (Chinese / Koreans can sneak in sometimes). However if you walk through Fukuhara you will probably find a place to get serviced.

DH is an reliable option, but some Japanese in necessary.

EDIT: I should add that Nampa in Kobe can be pretty productive.

Kiwi80
07-21-11, 10:41
Thanks Seniors, Hatguy and Aussiegaigin, for the fruitful proposals.

And hey Aussie, I wasn't looking for a smartass' comment. The other posts seemed to be a bit more encouraging. Had a bad day? But ok, with time I might find s. Th. To post. Cheers men.KobeGuy,

Try Yoko, who is the one I was looking for couple weeks ago (and luckily I found her again thanks to Jaycam).

She's actually from Kobe, and works at kobe / osaka, charges 10000yen per hour, can speak pretty good english, and she's horny, just I haven't got time to try her yet.

Kiami
07-21-11, 18:39
As previously explained, the best place in Kobe is Fukuhara (north-west of JR Kobe station). But if things didn't change during the past few months, you will see that most of the places will accept you. But if you can speak some Japanese, the only one that should let you go in (with a surtax. Price for 60 or 70 minutes+5000Yen) is a soapland named "Club Juliana".

Not the highest rank, but a good experience if you want to have a try.

KccKcc
07-24-11, 02:51
Hi Forum, I'm a new member but long time reader.

I live in Kobe, so Fukuhara is just a stone's skip away. I'm Asian, but I don't speak Japanese. However, when I was at Fukuhara, I would say to the doorman,"nihon-go chotto, daijobu?", which basically means,"is it ok that I don't speak japanese?". I was rejected by a few places, but eventually found one that was alright with it. My 40 minute session at a soapland was 17, 000yen; payed up front, then proceeded to the waiting area. I didn't like the first girl, so I had them change her for an extra 1, 000yen (basically it's 1, 000yen if you want to specify a girl).

The session was quite fun, like Japanese AV. Lots of soap and rubbing, then BBBJ. I think that cim was an option here because she was really going at it. I had to tell her to cap me so that she would ride me a bit. Enthusiastic girl, a little on the thick side (but that's because I specified big boobs; lesson learned). Afterwards, we chatted a bit though google translate and had a cigarette. I asked her if foreigners were common at the soapland and she said that I'm the second one; the first being a korean man.

It was a great session, but I've definitely had wickedly better ones in China. I think I'll try a pink bar next as that would be a new experience (although the new strain of gonnorrhea is telling me to keep away). Any good suggestions for Kobe area? Has anyone tried "Yoko" mentioned below? I'm a bit curious.

KccKcc
07-24-11, 02:54
Hi Forum, I'm a new member but long time reader.

I live in Kobe, so Fukuhara is just a stone's skip away. I'm Asian, but I don't speak Japanese. However, when I was at Fukuhara, I would say to the doorman,"nihon-go chotto, daijobu?", which basically means,"is it ok that I don't speak japanese?". I was rejected by a few places, but eventually found one that was alright with it. My 40 minute session at a soapland was 17, 000yen; payed up front, then proceeded to the waiting area. I didn't like the first girl, so I had them change her for an extra 1, 000yen (basically it's 1, 000yen if you want to specify a girl).

The session was quite fun, like Japanese AV. Lots of soap and rubbing, then BBBJ. I think that cim was an option here because she was really going at it. I had to tell her to cap me so that she would ride me a bit. Enthusiastic girl, a little on the thick side (but that's because I specified big boobs; lesson learned). Afterwards, we chatted a bit though google translate and had a cigarette. I asked her if foreigners were common at the soapland and she said that I'm the second one; the first being a korean man.

It was a great session, but I've definitely had wickedly better ones in China. Any other recommendations in Kobe?"Yoko" sounds interesting, has anyone tried her?

Lion
07-25-11, 03:03
As previously explained, the best place in Kobe is Fukuhara (north-west of JR Kobe station). But if things didn't change during the past few months, you will see that most of the places will accept you. But if you can speak some Japanese, the only one that should let you go in (with a surtax. Price for 60 or 70 minutes+5000Yen) is a soapland named "Club Juliana".

Not the highest rank, but a good experience if you want to have a try.Club Juliana will accept foreigners, depending on your Japanese and who is working at the time.

However I Kiami made a typo when he said "most places will accept you". I think Kiami meant to write "NOT".

KccKcc: Thanks for the report. Which place did you get into?

KccKcc
07-25-11, 06:42
Club Juliana will accept foreigners, depending on your Japanese and who is working at the time.

However I Kiami made a typo when he said "most places will accept you". I think Kiami meant to write "NOT".

KccKcc: Thanks for the report. Which place did you get into?I don't remember the name, but I do remember the place beside it was called "beginners".

Kiami
07-25-11, 18:07
Club Juliana will accept foreigners, depending on your Japanese and who is working at the time.

However I Kiami made a typo when he said "most places will accept you". I think Kiami meant to write "NOT".

KccKcc: Thanks for the report. Which place did you get into?Oups.

As Lion said, I wanted to say "most places will NOT accept you".

Sorry for the mistake.

Amp Dogg
08-01-11, 04:59
Looks like I will have a couple of extra days in Osaka during my upcoming Japan trip. I have tried to contact Yoko through the Craigslist add, but have been unsuccessful. I would really appreciate it if someone could PM me her contact info. If we do hookup I will let the board know how it goes.

I also plan to do the Tobita thing, I think I have it figured out how to get there. I am new to the Osaka area and speak almost zero Japanese, so it should be quite an adventure. I'll also report on my luck here too.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Amp Dogg
08-01-11, 05:15
I will share a little tidbit from my last trip to Japan about 6 months ago. I was out drinking in the party area northwest (exit the station on the mountain side and take a left) of Sannomiya station, and was headed down one of the tiny semi-dark alleys to a bar called the Pirate Bar, basically just because I thought the name was funny (and all the writing was in English). As I was headed up the alley. 2 not bad looking (but not great) Chinese or Korean girls basically attack me and start dragging me into this building saying that they will give me "good massage." Unfortunately I was more interested in the drinking at that time, so I did not partake but I should have in hindsight.

I definitely do not look Asian and speak no Japanese, which was no problem for them, so apparently there are some massage places in the Sannomiya area that will take non-Japanese.

Grossman
08-01-11, 07:11
For those curious about Yoko:

I've met her about 4 or 5 times. She's probably in her mid 40's, and a nice woman, single working mom (so be nice to her!). She's not the best lay in the world, and kind of looks a bit rough, but if you're into that, like I am, then it's not bad.

In other craigslist news, I had a fun weekend with one of the craigslist "gangbang my wife" posters. For once it was not some African scam artist, but a real Japanese couple. We had two Japanese guys, one black guy and two white guys (me included).

AussieGaigin
08-01-11, 10:20
I definitely do not look Asian and speak no Japanese, which was no problem for them, so apparently there are some massage places in the Sannomiya area that will take non-Japanese.Good chance that those girls don't speak much Japanese either, nor English. Previous reports on this type of operation suggest you might get relieved of a lot of cash, and still not get a positive memorable experience. You did the right thing by ignoring them.

KccKcc
08-04-11, 04:09
I seem to have found a setup west of amagasaki station like those in Tobita. I was there late at night and noticed a lot of drunk businessmen in the area. After looking around, I saw the little lighted rooms, mamas and girls. They looked to be in their 20s and 30s. I was trying to catch my last train, so I didn't get any additional info. I don't think I've seen anyone mention this area before.

Hatguy
08-08-11, 04:03
I seem to have found a setup west of amagasaki station like those in Tobita. I was there late at night and noticed a lot of drunk businessmen in the area. After looking around, I saw the little lighted rooms, mamas and girls. They looked to be in their 20s and 30s. I was trying to catch my last train, so I didn't get any additional info. I don't think I've seen anyone mention this area before.If this is a new area, and it may be, WELL DONE! Kudos to you for finding it.

I walked past the outskirts of tobita really early the other morning and it was dead. Its definitely an afternoon to midnight operation there. Infact last time I went upstairs in one place the girl said "theres only 20mins as we are closing. Sorry."

Best time to go? According to a guy I met there that drops hundreds of thousands there a month (verified) AFTERNOONS are the best time.

Hatguy

Josh63
08-09-11, 21:24
I have visited this place three times now, straightforward affair, Y7500 for 30 minutes, free beer. I speak no Japanese, but the tout is very friendly and inviting. Mind you, the place

Starts around 4. 30 PM. First time I was too early and had to return. Got the aforementioned plump lady twice, but the last time a new girl, slimmer and prettier.

When I was there no one else present, I think it starts getting busier later, and there is a waiting room.

Thanks to Hatguy for pointing out this place. I tried to find it on googlemaps before I went, but had difficulties. I'll try and clarify it a little more:

There are several stations in Tennoji, both Railway and subway. No matter how you arrive there, try and find the Kintetsu department store. There is actually a subway station

Underneath it. Exit the department store in southerly direction, the subway station you are leaving is called Osakaabenobashi. You will immediately see the HOOP department store. Do.

Not enter it but turn left, the second street on the right is where Club Queen is.

If you search googlemaps with Hoop Tennoji and Osaka, you'll get a map. To the right of Hoop there is a P on the map, that's the block where it is.

Picture of the alley was taken from a stairway going up Kintetsu, you see the pink queen lettering. Have fun.

KobeGuy
08-10-11, 14:58
Let me give you a report about my latest experience in discovering Kobe. It was a Saturday late afternoon and I actually thought of walking through Fukuhara near JR Kobe. I heard and read about it and according to the obviously existing "non-Gaijin policy" I did not expect too much (see e. G. http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/fukuhara). Just to have an eye on it.

To make it short: I was just invited to a club to try out and enjoy. As a real Gaijin. While coming from Tamon-dori and Kosoku-Kobe station, turn right at the Fukuhara Yanagisuji street gate (first gate on the right) , turn left at the corner of "Proud" and right away turn right, opposite of the "Super Fashion" ad. Walk like 100 m up the street and after the "M-Doll" you see a shop with yellow signs on a blue background (don't ask me for the signs.). And the door guy said Hello, and invited me to enjoy one hour for 12'000 JPY or more (time&JPY). I was extremely surprised but thought of trying this out, because that was the last I expected here after various reports and I found a quite clean place. The lady was a little bit chubby but she gave blowjobs like hell. She really tried to suck my brain off with passion and all her skills, and she liked a real good fuck, no limits. So it might be worthwile to check out more in Fukuhara.

Arje79
08-14-11, 01:58
I seem to have found a setup west of amagasaki station like those in Tobita. I was there late at night and noticed a lot of drunk businessmen in the area. After looking around, I saw the little lighted rooms, mamas and girls. They looked to be in their 20s and 30s. I was trying to catch my last train, so I didn't get any additional info. I don't think I've seen anyone mention this area before.I guess you found Kannami Shinchi. A couple of years ago, I posted a Japanese link with most of the red light districts, including that one. I can't find my old post, and I don't have that link anymore, but I got a new one.

http://homepage2.nifty.com/moruda/20/angya/tyu-kyu.html

#7 that mentions all the districts, access to them, prices and opinion. It is in Japanese, and the Google translator is not so good at it, but you can have the idea.

Hope it helps. If you go, tell us about your experience!

Hatguy
08-15-11, 02:36
Can someone PM me Yoko's email or point me towards her CL listing?

Hatguy

Bob Davis
08-18-11, 17:12
Went to Tennoji on Wednesday with another foreigner friend. Got there at about 4:30/5:00. First time there, and was pretty easy to find. Walked up and down 2 streets and got 2 or 3 call overs by the mama-sans. First place was 10, 000/30 minutes. Decided to walk around for a bit, and the second lady said 12, 000/30 minutes. Second girl was a bit beat up, so we went back to the first.

The "waitress" was young, maybe mid 20's. My buddy took a cheerleader girl that mama-san called out from the back, and I took the original. Walked us up stairs, and she took control of the situation. My Japanese is horrid, but was able to ask what was included. Full service, no BB. Clock starts as soon as you get in the door.

Payed my bill, and she took off to get snacks and tea, dropped it off, and went to the shower while I had a snack and a wet towel. She came back. I'd say body 7, nice breasts and legs. We got undressed, and she told me to lay down. Wiped me off with some wet-naps, then started with CBJ, then when to FS cowgirl. She rode me for a bit till she was tired, and I finished in doggy.

My buddy said his experience was similar.

Overall, I was very happy. Easy service, no bullshit. Girl was friendly, and accommodating.

Now, I tried going to Kannami Shinchi at Hanshin Amagasaki station today to TOFTT, but I couldn't find it. Walked down to the end of the shopping arcade, but couldn't seem to find where to go from there. Any ideas? Would love to find a place that's closer.

Kiwi80
08-19-11, 09:23
Can someone PM me Yoko's email or point me towards her CL listing?

HatguyMate she took down the craiglist ads I'd like to pm you her email but I haven't got the pm system on (didn't pay for yearly fee). I'll see what I can do probably will sign up later so I can view the photo gallery and pm.

BTW I had a few emails exchanged with her, she's really friendly, with good english usage and seems horny. Made an appointment with her but got to work overtime and had to cancelled the date.

Jaycam
08-20-11, 03:42
Mate she took down the craiglist ads I'd like to pm you her email but I haven't got the pm system on (didn't pay for yearly fee). I'll see what I can do probably will sign up later so I can view the photo gallery and pm.

BTW I had a few emails exchanged with her, she's really friendly, with good english usage and seems horny. Made an appointment with her but got to work overtime and had to cancelled the date.Her Ezweb address is still "christine. Why" I think.

Kiwi80
08-20-11, 14:45
Her Ezweb address is still "christine. Why" I think.Yep, the one alphabet only "y"

Baruto
08-22-11, 02:15
I've had rather disappointing Chinese Esute expeditions of late. Unfortunately, I have only bad news to report. Firstly, I tried a Chinese place which is situated just the other side of the bus station outside Moriguchi City Keihan train station. There is a small cluster of Chinese places down one of the small streets leading off from the bus station. I was flatly refused at the door by the male attendant, even though I asked him in Japanese if he accepted foreigners. Maybe if you are of Asian appearance you would be accepted. It looked like the real deal and when I came out there was a very cute Chinese girl smoking at the entrance.

Next, I tried a place in the immediate vicinity of Temma JR train station. There is a building of maybe five floors, each sporting an esute shop. I took the elevator to the third floor but the door was closed. There was a sign requesting that you rang the door bell. I continued up to the fourth floor where I was met by the Mamma san, who told me to sit and choose from the menu. I decided on the 15000 yen. 70 minute course which the Mamma san told me would include sex. I was then shown into the small massage cubical which is common with these establishments, and was instructed to get undressed by the girl, who waited outside the curtain. She then showed me to the shower room and I washed myself, again while she waited outside. I then was told to wait in the massage cubicle while she washed herself. She then entered and proceeded to kiss my body and work her way down to my bollocks. She kissed around my bollocks and cock but never actually took my tool into her mouth, which was my first disappointment. She then quickly applied the condom and lay on her back with her legs open and beckoned me to start the shag. I wanted to take my time, as it was a 70 minute course after all, and I wanted to give her tits and fanny a good going over, but she quickly put a stop to my explorations and repeatedly told me to hurry up. I then realised my full disappointment and really hammered her for all I was worth, which she seemed to enjoy, doing my beans in about five minutes. The girl was quite tall for an Asian and was big boned, but her face was pretty enough. She had moderately sized tits and a fairly loose fanny, which she frantically clenched when she realised I was about to shoot, and she permitted a couple of seconds of tongue kissing as I was ejaculating. I believe her name was Yuka. The whole experience was no more than 15 minutes from beginning to end. She told me if I wanted a massage it was another 3000 yen, which I kindly declined. She then gestured that I should get dressed. On the way out she told me to ask for her again and that she also worked on the fifth floor. I smiled and made a metal note never to return. You are better off going to Tobita than wasting your money here.

Lion
08-22-11, 02:45
I seem to have found a setup west of amagasaki station like those in Tobita. I was there late at night and noticed a lot of drunk businessmen in the area. After looking around, I saw the little lighted rooms, mamas and girls. They looked to be in their 20s and 30s. I was trying to catch my last train, so I didn't get any additional info. I don't think I've seen anyone mention this area before.There is a small RLD in Amagasaki. I got shot down at a few, but went into one place a while back and they offered BBBJ for about 10, 000 and FS for around 15, 000. Most women are late 30s-40s, though I was told a few are in 20s.

Hatguy
08-22-11, 04:53
Ok so hatguy has the dirt on a joint in Namba / Nipponbashi for all. I think we all were searching for this kind of cheap place. You MUST speak at least some Japanese. Forget it if you don't.

Let new say this without any doubt in my mind: it will close as fast as it has opened. And I must CAPS this but the women are NOTHING LIKE THE PICS. NOTHING AT ALL. But I heard through my Japanese connection that this place was cheap and was not disappointed. Believe it or not 8000 yen for two guys (me and friend) to go to hotel with a girl each. No extras. The cheapest option. No hotel charge.

No idea what my friend did but I got sumata to completion. I think BJ is otherwise standard.

Despite her being over weight and not my cup of tea. I must say this. She was way too big for my liking. The girls are all fat or large and ugly. I guess there MIGHT be some thin ones. But from what I got the pics must be of someone else! Hopefully theres a thin one there I have not seen.

The system was as follows.

25 mins 3999 yen plus 500 if you choose for 25 mins.

More time more money. See the attached price list.

Directions are as follows:

The way I went:

From Dotonbori bridge turn right at the crab. If you go there you will know where this is. Walk right through to the end of this and you will see a large street. There you need to turn left and walk over the bridge itself. Be careful as you may miss this. It doesn't really look like a bridge. Cross the road and theres a pretty tall tower called Lion Tower Shimanouchi. On the 6F (6th floor) is the shop I went to. In the elevator its called 6F. Actual name is "SAKUTTO OKUSAMA" (OSAKA NIPPONBASHI HOTEL HEALTH) Obviously the English is not a translation. Japanese think its cool to add some English. LOL.

Their suggestion:

Take exit 6 from Nipponbashi station. Walk up 3 blocks and its on the right. See map attached.

Website http://nihon.sakutto39.com/top/

Will I go back? I will for the 3P course I think.

Bob Davis
08-22-11, 07:41
There is a small RLD in Amagasaki. I got shot down at a few, but went into one place a while back and they offered BBBJ for about 10, 000 and FS for around 15, 000. Most women are late 30s-40s, though I was told a few are in 20s.I tried finding this area. I went to the end of the shopping road, and turned right, near the train tracks, but didn't see anything. Where exactly is it?

Sakutto Okusama
08-24-11, 01:46
This is a staff of SAKKUTTO OKUSAMA.

I would like to say that not all of our companions are as bad as he said.

We have some beautiful and good manner female companions.

Neverthless, our service charge is the lowest in the Nihonbashi area in Osaka.

Please come and see our companions.

Also, English speaking staff are there for you.

Lion
08-24-11, 02:08
I tried finding this area. I went to the end of the shopping road, and turned right, near the train tracks, but didn't see anything. Where exactly is it?
A bit north of Hanshin Amagasaki station. There is also JR Amagasaki, but I think nothing is there (may be wrong though).

Here is one soap (there aren't many) in the area. Some will shoot foreign men down, but some might say OK.

Be sure to report back.

http://www.s-hanshin.com/access/

Sakutto Okusama
08-24-11, 02:41
This is a staff of SAKKUTTO OKUSAMA.

I would like to say that not all of our companions are as bad as he said.

We have some beautiful and good manner female companions.

Nevertheless, our service charge is the lowest in the Nihonbashi area of Osaka.

Please come and see our companions.

Basic option is sumata and blowjob. You can add other options for free.

Here is our website :

http://www.nihon.sakutto39.com/top/

Also, English speaking staffs are there for you.

Asking what kinds of service we offer is free of charge!

Bob Davis
08-24-11, 03:16
A bit north of Hanshin Amagasaki station. There is also JR Amagasaki, but I think nothing is there (may be wrong though).

Here is one soap (there aren't many) in the area. Some will shoot foreign men down, but some might say OK.

Be sure to report back.

http://www.s-hanshin.com/access/Is this soapland near the other red lights? Someone said it was similar to Tobita area. I have soaplands near me (Fukuhara) , but was looking for something similar to Tobita. Willing to TOFTT, but I don't know where.

Hatguy
08-24-11, 07:59
This is a staff of SAKKUTTO OKUSAMA.

I would like to say that not all of our companions are as bad as he said.

We have some beautiful and good manner female companions.

Neverthless, our service charge is the lowest in the Nihonbashi area in Osaka.

Please come and see our companions.

Also, English speaking staff are there for you.Great! Thanks for welcoming foreigners. Its great. Next time I will ask for thin girl! Thank you!

Metabo
08-24-11, 10:51
Thanks to Hatguy for posting at first and Bug thanks to Sakutto Osama's staff for replying!

I like communication and the peaceful pursuit of happiness.

Let's!

I'm planning to do some recon for the team there as soon as I can.

-Metabo.

Ps. Question for readers:

I am going to get married next year. Are there any married guys on here who still monger?

What do you guys do? Are my days if BBBJs over? Or, should I be taking action to cover him up?

KccKcc
08-25-11, 05:21
I tried finding this area. I went to the end of the shopping road, and turned right, near the train tracks, but didn't see anything. Where exactly is it?I think I turned left after the shopping road. I remember it was directly facing a parking lot, check google maps out! And yes, this location is similar to tobita setups.

Bob Davis
08-25-11, 12:41
I think I turned left after the shopping road. I remember it was directly facing a parking lot, check google maps out! And yes, this location is similar to tobita setups.Cool. I'll try this. I google mapped it before, but my map didn't say "super happy good time area". My Japanese is a bit weak though. I'll go check again after payday no that I have more direction.

Naniwan
08-25-11, 13:19
I am going to get married next year. Are there any married guys on here who still monger?

What do you guys do? Are my days if BBBJs over? Or, should I be taking action to cover him up?I'm married and still monger, though not much lately. I think the risks from BBBJ are minimal tbh (though there ARE risk) , you're very unlikely to get Chlamydia more likely to get Gonorrhea but it's a much less common disease. I love BBBJ too much to give it up!

I actually picked Chlamydia WHILST married from a dirty hotel health girl via sumata (uncovered like an IDIOT) , I managed to keep it under wraps and fix myself up though. The stress was unbearable!

Now I stick to a health girl that quit but I still keep in contact with her she gives me a great deals too (like 10, 000 for 75 minutes). She sees very few clients now and is relatively safe. She is quite frankly, more GFE than my wife x_X but marriage (and especially children) is a whole other thread.

Naniwan
08-25-11, 13:22
This is a staff of SAKKUTTO OKUSAMA.

I would like to say that not all of our companions are as bad as he said.

We have some beautiful and good manner female companions.

Nevertheless, our service charge is the lowest in the Nihonbashi area of Osaka.

Please come and see our companions.

Basic option is sumata and blowjob. You can add other options for free.

Here is our website :

http://www.nihon.sakutto39.com/top/

Also, English speaking staffs are there for you.

Asking what kinds of service we offer is free of charge!

Thanks for the information! ittemimasu~!

Hatguy
08-25-11, 14:32
I went again to this one. Sakutto I mean of course. You can get thin ones there. Not bad in my opinion. I will not recommend anyone. If members want to know pm me for info. All I will say is damn!

Metabo
08-25-11, 15:48
Cheers Naniwan for the insight. I've been torn as to what I'm going to do once I get married.

Nice to know there are some lads still out gallivanting.

My girl is awesome, just not down with BJs. And I need a BJ every once in a while. Especially a BBBJ.

Know what I mean? But that's why I'm worried. I got chlamydia and gonorrhea once already from BJs and I don't want to get it again.

Rather, I don't want to get it again and give it to my wife!

So you all never use condoms when you're getting head, huh? Just for sumata.

Oh, Hatguy. I'm looking to get drunk and possibly hit up Okusama tomorrow.

Naniwan
08-26-11, 00:58
Cheers Naniwan for the insight.

So you all never use condoms when you're getting head, huh? Just for sumata.Yeah but I only go with the same girl now and that is a rare occasion. I really have the fight the urge to 'shop around', mate. It's a bastard and I still haven't been to Tobita! I guess it's mainly because I have a child too and totally don't want to give the wife anything and risk losing my family. It's a difficult position huh? Especially since we had a child my wife's interest in sex has almost disappeared. When we get down to it it's probably on the same level as your totally uninterested Chinese girls. What's a BJ? Haha.

Interesting to know you got BOTH from BJs. Hmm :

Lion
08-26-11, 02:00
Is this soapland near the other red lights? Someone said it was similar to Tobita area. I have soaplands near me (Fukuhara) , but was looking for something similar to Tobita. Willing to TOFTT, but I don't know where.Not at all like Tobita or Kujo where you get callouts and girls in windows. Just a bunch of shops and love hotels in a concentrated area.

Wasabijoe
08-29-11, 07:07
Just wondering more about this Sakkuto Okusama. I've read some reports, but no real details, so I'd like to hear a bit more about it before making the long journey down there. I checked out the site link but can't read kanji."Sumata and BJ" plus options for &65509; 3900? (Actually, I don't really know what "sumata" is.) Most of the ladies didn't look too intriguing, as I'm not too keen on hefty oba-san; can you chose your "companion", via photo or face-to-face? I don't have much experience w / esute or pink salons, and then I was always disappointed, but I'm looking for cheaper alternatives to Tobita and Juso Music, and the 3P course naturally caught my eye. Anyone give that a shot yet? And do they respond to e-mails in English?

As for Tobita, has anyone ever made an appointment with a girl there? I met one fun, foxy beauty there, but whenever I've gone back I've had no luck getting her again. She's busy, or I was on my back to the tube and she was just sitting down, etc. The other girls have been good, but none have compared to her thus far, so I'd like to arrange something beforehand (if I'm lucky enough to find her again). Do they take appointments at the shop? Or maybe private out-calls on the sly?

Sorry for all the questions, and thanks in advance for any tips.

Hatguy
08-30-11, 00:22
Pm me and Ill tell you more about it. Don't want to say too much here as the shop reads the forums.

Metabo
08-30-11, 07:47
Pm me and Ill tell you more about it. Don't want to say too much here as the shop reads the forums.How do oyu send PMs here? Do you have to be a paid member? I know you have to pay to see the photos. Same with PM addresses?

Hatguy
08-31-11, 08:32
How do oyu send PMs here? Do you have to be a paid member? I know you have to pay to see the photos. Same with PM addresses?Yeah join the site. I did. Totally worth every cent.

Wasabijoe
09-03-11, 03:33
As for Tobita, has anyone ever made an appointment with a girl there? I met one fun, foxy beauty there, but whenever I've gone back I've had no luck getting her again. She's busy, or I was on my back to the tube and she was just sitting down, etc. The other girls have been good, but none have compared to her thus far, so I'd like to arrange something beforehand (if I'm lucky enough to find her again). Do they take appointments at the shop? Or maybe private out-calls on the sly?Sorry for quoting myself, but any advice on this score?

@HatGuy. I can't PM (unpaid member) , but I'm kind of getting the hint on Sakkuto Oba-san after reading the forum. Can paid members PM unpaid ones? I'd still like to see what you have to say; your sage advice has been of help to me in the past.

Xslikx
09-04-11, 11:07
Sorry for quoting myself, but any advice on this score?I'm not really sure why you are asking us when it would be simpler to just go down there and ask them directly. If you don't have the contact info for the girl or the shop, I don't see how you expect to be able to set up an appointment.

If you know the name of the girl, even if she is not in the genkan when you go by, you can still ask the obaa-san if she is there and if you can see her. In the past, I have gotten the email address of girls in Tobita and have been able to set up an appointment with them, or basically just email them to ask if they will be there before I head down. A lot of the girls give out cards with info on it, or you could ask for a shop card and then call to see what's up.

Wasabijoe
09-05-11, 10:59
I'm not really sure why you are asking us when it would be simpler to just go down there and ask them directly. If you don't have the contact info for the girl or the shop, I don't see how you expect to be able to set up an appointment.

If you know the name of the girl, even if she is not in the genkan when you go by, you can still ask the obaa-san if she is there and if you can see her. In the past, I have gotten the email address of girls in Tobita and have been able to set up an appointment with them, or basically just email them to ask if they will be there before I head down. A lot of the girls give out cards with info on it, or you could ask for a shop card and then call to see what's up.I was hoping to meet her again, and then try to set up an appointment for the future. Luckily, I did find her in her chair recently, took her again, and she was again fantastic. I asked if I could make an appointment with her at that shop and she said it isn't possible, but I asked her days off, so now I know when to look for her anyway.

This girl is great. She remembered me from the last time, when I had hung her clothes up rather than chuck them on the floor, and opened the door for her when we were leaving and said,"Ladies' first". Anyway, she remembered that this second time, and as soon as we got in the room she attacked me with hugs and kisses, and quoted me. We started messing around immediately, before any transaction was even discussed, so off the clock so to speak. Then she got my tea, we sat down and she asked what I wanted, so I pointed to the 20 minute rate (16, 000 yen) and said "takai". She laughed and suggested 20 minutes for the 15 rate (11, 000 yen). I guess it's not such a big deal, but I was grateful.

After that we stripped each other, and before my drawers had even hit the floor she was giving me a BBBJ. Then on to the futon for a bit more, and I fingered her quite a bit and she seemed to enjoy that; I suspect the Japanese guys don't do that much. Then missionary, then her on top, and some unique half straddle that we may have just have invented. She really seemed to like that too, and kept saying "hajimete, sugoi kimuchi". Probably mostly lip service, but I think there was some true pleasure in it too. We ended up having a bit of a language exchange at the end, and I wound up spending at least half an hour with her.

Money well spent with this girl. Only thing that bothers me is the BBBJ. I'm all for it, but she was so quick to it both times and didn't even pause to sponge the wee fellow off. So, if she's like this with me. How many other guys get the same royal treatment. Does the risk outweigh the joy? Don't know yet. Something to think about while I stockpile enough yen to head down there again.

Out of curiosity, what's the "doorbell" that rings occasionally? Does that mean time's up for someone? Or is it a 5 minute warning? Or is it a pizza arriving?

Member #4243
09-06-11, 02:40
Hello, to again to hatguy and other experienced mongerers. Having just recovered from an amazing fkk club tour of germany, I still returned with an empty part of me longing for those japanese.

Av idol type beauties. Having researched macau, Hong kong and other similar type eastern destinations, my conclusion that only japan contains genuine japanese beauties has been confirmed again.

Having researched tokyo only yoshiwara soapland shines through as somewhere where I might find true intimacy with a japanese cutie. Now for some strange reason I came back to look at this

Thread and found a breath of fresh air by reading two very promising reports by johnsmith 1) where as a foreigner he found a level of up to 50% by the tobita models and 2) a direct reply to my.

Request for info where he states that for me "it is worth a shot in tobita" and that there is a realistic chance I could get up to 50% acceptance rate by the mamsans there. This has reignited the.

Idea of a trip to osaka for me. I also realise now that japan is NOT a mongering destination and that my primary aim should be for tourism, and if I do score in tobita that would just be the icing on

The cake. Flying into japan is easy for me and I realise that if I do not score in tobita then at least I have experienced japan and that money saved on mongering will still be available for other trips.

As a reminder I am in my early thirties well dressed and groomed with a meditteranean look and will learn some basic japanese should I go through with the trip.

I would be very grateful if as hatguy says a japanese person with you increases the chances in tobita or even someone from this forum permanently based in the area? Ie general advice is.

Appreciated on all of my above conclusions and where I may be able to find someone to take me around tobita. (as a pointer this from my side is because I find japanese av idol type girls quite amazing)

Naked Gaijin
09-06-11, 09:26
Honestly, I don't think you will have success in Tobita. Call rate for professional looking white guys is probably 20 to 30% and I have NEVER heard of any other non-Japanese looking guys being accepted. No blacks, latins, middle-eastern, or Indians. Sorry, it's just the reality. If you must experience a Japanese girl, go with the previously mentioned Asian Mystique. But also note, you can in fact get the same beauty and quality in Hong Kong (there is an very famous website available in English for exploring all the merchandise, including photos, prices, options, locations and reviews!) and in Singapore (Geylang Road). And both will cost alot less than Tobita. Oh, and for Pete's sake, definitely don't go mongering in Japan in a group!


Hello, to again to hatguy and other experienced mongerers. Having just recovered from an amazing fkk club tour of germany, I still returned with an empty part of me longing for those japanese.

Av idol type beauties. Having researched macau, Hong kong and other similar type eastern destinations, my conclusion that only japan contains genuine japanese beauties has been confirmed again.

Having researched tokyo only yoshiwara soapland shines through as somewhere where I might find true intimacy with a japanese cutie. Now for some strange reason I came back to look at this

Thread and found a breath of fresh air by reading two very promising reports by johnsmith 1) where as a foreigner he found a level of up to 50% by the tobita models and 2) a direct reply to my.

Request for info where he states that for me "it is worth a shot in tobita" and that there is a realistic chance I could get up to 50% acceptance rate by the mamsans there. This has reignited the.

Idea of a trip to osaka for me. I also realise now that japan is NOT a mongering destination and that my primary aim should be for tourism, and if I do score in tobita that would just be the icing on

The cake. Flying into japan is easy for me and I realise that if I do not score in tobita then at least I have experienced japan and that money saved on mongering will still be available for other trips.

As a reminder I am in my early thirties well dressed and groomed with a meditteranean look and will learn some basic japanese should I go through with the trip.

I would be very grateful if as hatguy says a japanese person with you increases the chances in tobita or even someone from this forum permanently based in the area? Ie general advice is.

Appreciated on all of my above conclusions and where I may be able to find someone to take me around tobita. (as a pointer this from my side is because I find japanese av idol type girls quite amazing)

Hatguy
09-06-11, 10:39
No one said don't try here mohab. They just want you to know that the chances are slim. Another idea: Fly to Bangkok like I did before. Go on a hunt looking for Thais that look Japanese. You will get more for your money and probably be accepted. I got one there who was incredibly beautiful. Go through my posts man. Not hard to find.

In regards to going down there and trying, I think theres also the possibility of you getting zero calls. It really depends on your luck at the time.

Oh and I quit going to Sakutto. Think I may have picked up a hitchhiker there so to speak. Ew! Don't need to tel me twice.

Colonel Sun
09-08-11, 04:02
Serious question. I've been in Osaka for a little while. Fucked a few of the Chinese women that pulled from off the street on my way home a couple times in Shin-Saibashi. But what I'm really looking for is an Asian chick with a really nice round ass (Japanese, Chinese, whatever). Can anyone give me some recommendations for someone serviceable like that, to foreigners, in the Osaka area?Try Osaka Fats: http://goo.gl/eI4Wa

Naniwan
09-09-11, 07:45
Honestly, I don't think you will have success in Tobita. Call rate for professional looking white guys is probably 20 to 30% and I have NEVER heard of any other non-Japanese looking guys being accepted. No blacks, latins, middle-eastern, or Indians. Sorry, it's just the reality.Poor Azure Knight! Where is he BTW? He was black and used to have OK luck (with select girls) in Tobita.

As for Mohab, I really wish I was coming for a hol, since you could just go the Nampa root and get it for free! No fun left for us married guys, you know! I still ain't been to Tobita either!

Dreams
09-09-11, 10:51
Honestly, I don't think you will have success in Tobita. Call rate for professional looking white guys is probably 20 to 30% and I have NEVER heard of any other non-Japanese looking guys being accepted. No blacks, latins, middle-eastern, or Indians. Sorry, it's just the reality. If you must experience a Japanese girl, go with the previously mentioned Asian Mystique. But also note, you can in fact get the same beauty and quality in Hong Kong (there is an very famous website available in English for exploring all the merchandise, including photos, prices, options, locations and reviews!) and in Singapore (Geylang Road). And both will cost alot less than Tobita. Oh, and for Pete's sake, definitely don't go mongering in Japan in a group!I never found a Japanese girl in Geylang. If I missed it, pl let me kow where, and I will rush back

AussieGaigin
09-09-11, 11:53
I never found a Japanese girl in Geylang. If I missed it, pl let me kow where, and I will rush backHe did say "the same beauty and quality" in Geylang. Well, perhaps not quite.

I did manage to chat up a J girl tourist who was staying in the same hotel as I, when I was there about 4 years ago.

Naked Gaijin
09-09-11, 15:41
He did say "the same beauty and quality" in Geylang. Well, perhaps not quite.

I did manage to chat up a J girl tourist who was staying in the same hotel as I, when I was there about 4 years ago.It's a Japan forum, so I hesitate to elaborate, but wanted to clarify. You are correct, I did not assert Geylang has J girls. It has Chinese, Malay, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asians, but I don't believe any J girls would go there for work considering the very low rates vs what they can make in Japan, and what they make when they work in HK. But, also to be clear, there are definitely girls of the same quality and beauty in Geylang. On the streets occupied by the Chinese contingent, they are not hard to find.

Naked Gaijin
09-09-11, 15:47
Poor Azure Knight! Where is he BTW? He was black and used to have OK luck (with select girls) in Tobita.

As for Mohab, I really wish I was coming for a hol, since you could just go the Nampa root and get it for free! No fun left for us married guys, you know! I still ain't been to Tobita either!As I said, I had never heard of a non-white foreigner being accepted in Tobita. I have now. But I also assume AK is fluent in Japanese, which helps tremendously. I still believe however that a middle eastern looking guy whose Japanese is limited to arigatou and ohayo gozaimasu would have very little chance of success in Tobita. (I may be remembering incorrectly, but I though Mohab had characterised himself as middle eastern, not mediterranean, in a post from a few months back).

AussieGaigin
09-10-11, 01:06
It's a Japan forum, so I hesitate to elaborate, but wanted to clarify. You are correct, I did not assert Geylang has J girls. It has Chinese, Malay, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asians, but I don't believe any J girls would go there for work considering the very low rates vs what they can make in Japan, and what they make when they work in HK. But, also to be clear, there are definitely girls of the same quality and beauty in Geylang. On the streets occupied by the Chinese contingent, they are not hard to find.It seems that DREAMS and I are biased towards Japanese girls no matter what. We will always regard them as being a cut above the rest (although reality may be otherwise; I acknowledge that there are lots of other beauties in Singapore and even here in Sydney). Please forgive our rants LOL

Dreams
09-10-11, 17:34
It seems that DREAMS and I are biased towards Japanese girls no matter what. We will always regard them as being a cut above the rest (although reality may be otherwise; I acknowledge that there are lots of other beauties in Singapore and even here in Sydney). Please forgive our rants LOLYes indeed, I am totally biased infavour of J girls, which does not mean that I don't recognise that other Asian girls are as beautiful etc. But the J girls have something special in attitude that is unique to them, and my basic level nihongo makes even the encounters more fun.

Apologies if my post looked a bit rude, I just wanted to make sure that no one would expect to find a pro J girl in Geylang, there are none, for all the good reasions already exposed.

Metabo
09-11-11, 11:23
Ok fellas,

Let's get back on track here. I would like to pose a question to the lads of the forum:

What do you reckon would happen if I brought a condom to pink salon? All good, no?

Probably grateful, no?

I ask be / see a lot of them ladies are carrying the clam or other nasty stuff I don't want to pass around.

Have any of you guys tried this way? I know they don't have condoms there so I guess I'd be bring my own.

Naniwan
09-12-11, 01:48
As I said, I had never heard of a non-white foreigner being accepted in Tobita. I have now. But I also assume AK is fluent in Japanese, which helps tremendously. I still believe however that a middle eastern looking guy whose Japanese is limited to arigatou and ohayo gozaimasu would have very little chance of success in Tobita. (I may be remembering incorrectly, but I though Mohab had characterised himself as middle eastern, not mediterranean, in a post from a few months back).AK deffo spoke good Japanese. I recall his woe also though. Often only 10% call rates but he TOFFT and found girls that would accept foreigners. As for Mohab, he might have less luck on the main strip, more lucky with the side streets. I know if I was him, I would just come and take the Nanpa route. It's actually fun, sometimes more expensive, sometimes extremely cheap. Ah. Good ole days.

Xslikx
09-12-11, 09:35
What do you reckon would happen if I brought a condom to pink salon? All good, no?You should always be carrrying condoms in Japan any way. (Probable in any country, but in Japan you could find yourself needing condoms at any moment.) In a pink salon, she'll probably think you plan on fucking her and may object to that. Just tell her you always use condoms.

Naked Gaijin
09-12-11, 14:55
AK deffo spoke good Japanese. I recall his woe also though. Often only 10% call rates but he TOFFT and found girls that would accept foreigners. As for Mohab, he might have less luck on the main strip, more lucky with the side streets. I know if I was him, I would just come and take the Nanpa route. It's actually fun, sometimes more expensive, sometimes extremely cheap. Ah. Good ole days.Ah yes, the side streets. But Mohab said he's looking for an AV idol type J girl. The side streets don't feature such gals. Again, better luck with Asian Mystique. Or hell, why not Yoshiwara?

Kiwi80
09-22-11, 14:05
Hey guys any of you have tried visiting Korean DH? Saw on their websites, the girls look great (without mosaic) just wondering how much they look alike? Am watching the volleyball game korea / China LOL geez the korean girls look cute.

TunerSuite
09-24-11, 20:44
Hi,

I recently ordered a Korean DH service. Won't name names, but just look up &38867; &22269; &12487; &12522; &12504; &12522; &22823; &38442; and there shouldn't be too many out there. I called up the number a bit after one o'clock, and the guy answers very politely. I said out front that I'm not Japanese and he said that won't really be a problem (I spoke pretty good Japanese). I wanted the 60 min course for 18, 000 yen but the guy says they don't do that course (maybe because it's late?) and so I settled for 90 minute for 25, 000 yen + 2, 000 yen transportation. I was a bit hesitant and tried to ask him if the girl would leave me early. He didn't seem to understand (or was offended by the comment) , but in the end he says the girl will stay for the full 90 minutes. The guy confirmed my address and number, and I asked him which kind of girl would come. He asked me which kind of girl I want, I said if the girls are as they are on the page then it doesn't matter, although somebody young and has a cute face with be nice. He seems to take a note of that and said a girl would be there in 30 40 minutes.

And indeed she showed up. Quite different from pictures (she had some pimple scars, but I reckon the photoshop took care of that on the webpage). I wasn't sure if I saw her on the page (honestly, everybody on the page has that same photoshop face and body). We talked for a little bit. She knew virtually 1% Japanese and so gestures were the key. She told me she just got to Japan 2 months back. Anyways after some chit chat we got into the shower, she cleaned my penis and I was allowed to touch her breasts but not kiss. I was a bit disappointed but I obeyed.

Then we came out to my bed, she grabbed her towel and laid it down on my bed. We cuddled for a bit and then she progresses to kiss my nipples and body for about 5-10 minutes. Then she put the condom on and gave me a condomed blowjob (another disappointment, but oh well) , that goes on for about 10 minutes and then she signaled that I go on top of her. I wasn't sure if this meant FS or not so I asked her if I could kiss her (NO) , fondle her breasts (yes) , kiss her breasts (only right nipple because her left nipple is hurting) lick her body (yes) , finger her (yes). After about 5-10 minutes she signaled me to enter and I did. She required some lube in the beginning but it went smoothly and she started moaning pretty loudly (not sure if it's fake or not). So I had to stop and excuse myself and put on some Korean music (I've prepared beforehand in anticipation of this scenario). She apologized. We then resumed our activities. After another 10 minutes, I wanted to change so that she goes on top, but then she said "No, it's OK like this". A third disappointment but what the hell, I kept going for another 10-15 minutes, but after a while, she began to get dried and told me to come. I was a bit let off by this because I wanted to take my time, but I guess she was hurting a bit too. So I sped up as hard as I could but my god. I just couldn't come! She was beginning to get very agitated so after another 5-10 minutes, I stopped prematurely.

We then lied on the bed for 5-10 minutes and chit chat. She then got up and smoke (opening the door to my veranda since I have smoke detectors inside). Then she asked to look at my computer, which I showed her. She said she owns a Samsung laptop and a Galaxy (wohoo Patrotism). I then connected to the Internet and showed her the website of her company. She pointed out another girl who was her roommate. They were supposedly best friends. We browsed around the Internet a bit. I showed her GOM Player, KMplayer, and DAUM player which I use on a regular basis. She was pretty impressed by this. I then did the unthinkable and changed my Windows 7 display language from Japanese to Korean and she was like WT. This is possible! Haha fun times.

All this time I guess the clock is ticking. She made a few phone calls (to the driver, to her friends). One phone call she sounded pretty upset. Maybe the boyfriend? Anyways. I was under the impression that she was waiting for her driver. So I pulled out my guitar and started playing some songs, beginning with Extreme's "More the Words," "Hotel California" and "Romance." I then taught her a bit (she was helpless, but oh well). Yes, it's now 3 o'clock in the morning. Of course, I trust the neighbor would be OK with guitar sounds but NOT moaning sounds.

Then. It gets to 3:27 and something rang. I assume this was supposed to be the alarm! I now thing back. She must have set it at around 2:00 which is AFTER we showered. Very kind of her.

OK. Now about the girl herself.

She is supposedly 19. I told her I'm 26 and she asked me how old I think she was. I said 26. Oh boy. Thank God she laughed. Her face was decent. With some pimple scars but not too many. She said she didn't wear makeup today (honestly, I couldn't tell). But she has VERY VERY nice, decent-sized, firm breasts that I could just touch forever. She carried with her a sweet rosy scent that still lingers. Most important of all, as I have guessed from the beginning, she just seems a lot more honest than Japanese girls (I could be completely fooled of course).

I enjoyed talking, teaching her Japanese and the guitar. We also watched some Korean porn on DAUM TV. LOL. Good times.

She didn't know words like &12416; &12363; &12375; &12356; . &12362; &12363; &12375; &12356; , &36933; &12356; , &12398; &26041; &12364; &22909; &12365; , etc. So you can guess how bad communication was between us.

Speaking of which, I still haven't come. But damn, it was a memorable experience. And now she is gone. Probably forever.

By the way. It's probably a good idea to ask the shop which kind of services would be included. Like deep kiss, bare-back blow job (&29983; &12501; &12455; &12521, etc. I mean I thought these are standard services at other places but I guess not this time.

Kiwi80
09-26-11, 12:46
Hi,

I recently ordered a Korean DH service. Won't name names, but just look up &38867; &22269; &12487; &12522; &12504; &12522; &22823; &38442; and there shouldn't be too many out there. I called up the number a bit after one o'clock, and the guy answers very politely. I said out front that I'm not Japanese and he said that won't really be a problem (I spoke pretty good Japanese). I wanted the 60 min course for 18, 000 yen but the guy says they don't do that course (maybe because it's late?) and so I settled for 90 minute for 25, 000 yen + 2, 000 yen transportation. I was a bit hesitant and tried to ask him if the girl would leave me early. He didn't seem to understand (or was offended by the comment) , but in the end he says the girl will stay for the full 90 minutes. The guy confirmed my address and number, and I asked him which kind of girl would come. He asked me which kind of girl I want, I said if the girls are as they are on the page then it doesn't matter, although somebody young and has a cute face with be nice. He seems to take a note of that and said a girl would be there in 30 40 minutes.Thanks for the report man it's really helpful. But you spent 27, 000 yen and you didn't cum? Wow.

And is it only me who can't read the japanese character that you were trying to type? All of them are &38867; this kind of code.

Cheers

TunerSuite
09-27-11, 03:05
Thanks for the report man it's really helpful. But you spent 27, 000 yen and you didn't cum? Wow.

And is it only me who can't read the japanese character that you were trying to type? All of them are &38867; this kind of code.

CheersHi,

Thanks for the message on the Kansai forum. I guess the Japanese characters got messed up during the preview / submission process by the admin. In any event, the place that I ordered was: called a-maihime which you can definitely google up.

The girl that came to me was Emily &65288; &12456; &12511; &12522; &65289; . Her profile is on the site.

Not sure if she would be the best deal on the site, but anyways if you ever order her, ask her if by any chance she recently serviced a guy who played guitar, is she says yes you can tell her I said Hi (don't tell her I gave her name to you though).

Also, it looks like if you order near Namba the 60min course would be available.

Other Korean DH places could be found if you google in Japanese: "kankoku delihesu osaka"

Hatguy
09-30-11, 12:46
I have philippina arse for you brothers. This student chick is ok. In need now of cash. Non pro
.
No promises. PM me for her number. No pm ability no number. Got to support ISG. Good fuck. No BJ tho. Don't expect the earth for what you pay her. And I also have to say that her pussy is tight. Very tight. She needs guys to go down on her too!

Hatguy
10-01-11, 00:58
Two in a row from me. Just a bit more about this girl. She's no stunner. Average rack. But shaven downstairs. Told nd she hadn't had sex in about a year. Given her tightness I believed her. Very sensitive nipples. I got her going on that alone.

She expects 10000 for about an hour. Originally said one time only but while we were talking after round one I got her going again and ended up with another go.

Funny thing happened when I came the first time. I pulled off the condom and came on her stomach and some of it landed on her tits and neck. She freaked a bit. LOL.

So far one member asked for her number. Damn Osaka based guys. Is no one willing to help her? LOL!

Sik Dj Gugu
10-01-11, 02:03
Two in a row from me. Just a bit more about this girl. She's no stunner. Average rack. But shaven downstairs. Told nd she hadn't had sex in about a year. Given her tightness I believed her. Very sensitive nipples. I got her going on that alone.

She expects 10000 for about an hour. Originally said one time only but while we were talking after round one I got her going again and ended up with another go.

Funny thing happened when I came the first time. I pulled off the condom and came on her stomach and some of it landed on her tits and neck. She freaked a bit. LOL.

So far one member asked for her number. Damn Osaka based guys. Is no one willing to help her? LOL!Hello, hatguy. You're post are always entertaining and educational so I trust you without a doubt on the quality of this girl. I'd totally go for it but I'm in Tokyo and it just wouldn't make sense. Keep up the good work and look forward to hearing more about your escapades. Rock on brother.

Grossman
10-01-11, 09:08
I wonder if anyone else among you guys does this (see below)?

Most delivery health places have warnings that you can't take (hidden) photos of the girls. And if photos are allowed it's usually an extra option, which you have to pay for, and you can only take polaroids and no faces.

But. If you have video intercom at your place you can get some nice face shots by shooting the intercom screen when they ring the doorbell. I've only ever had one girl deliberately obscure her face when she rang the bell, and even then I refrained from buzzing her in and she eventually got impatient and looked right at the camera. I took my shots and then buzzed her in. I don't put the photos on the net or anything (I do respect their privacy) but it's just a helpful way to remember who's who in the zoo. I'm building up quite a library, and after some initial misteps, I'm learning how to get the best shots from a video screen (hint: no flash).

I wonder if any other guys have been doing the same thing? Because most deli-heru websites don't show faces, so, if you care about faces, it can be sometimes difficult to judge who's good-looking and who's not. I wonder if there's a website out there that publishes these type of photos?

Hatguy
10-03-11, 00:49
The philippina I spoke of is on DIA. Date in asia. Her id is probably easy to find. She's 27. Seek. And you'll find brothers.

Note I did not give her name or number. Im doing the above because she called me repeatedly asking for more money.

Dezvandez
10-05-11, 06:04
Hi! I am new around here. Plan to visit Osaka soon with my GF. Are there any dedicated Sex Toy Stores in Osaka other than Donki?

Lion
10-07-11, 01:13
Hi! I am new around here. Plan to visit Osaka soon with my GF. Are there any dedicated Sex Toy Stores in Osaka other than Donki?There are plenty, usually next to Adult DVD shops.

Here is one http://a-1012.com/shop/osaka/index.htm

(Adult Toys) otona omocha is the Japanese.

Grossman
10-07-11, 10:33
The philippina I spoke of is on DIA. Date in asia. Her I'd is probably easy to find. She's 27. Seek. And you'll find brothers.

Note I did not give her name or number. I'm doing the above because she called me repeatedly asking for more money.Hey Hatguy, I searched on DIA and there are no girls aged 27 listed in Osaka. There is ONE girl listed as 28, would that be the one?

Thanks

Hatguy
10-09-11, 03:06
Hey Hatguy, I searched on DIA and there are no girls aged 27 listed in Osaka. There is ONE girl listed as 28, would that be the one?

ThanksI just checked. She's there. Search using all of japan. I really want to tell you her name etc but won't put it on the forum. She is a part time girl.

Actually I decided once was enough with her. She was ok but kinda a once is enough fuck. Good but I would like other options for the next screw.

Luvgillian
10-09-11, 13:11
Any gaijin friendly pink salon in Osaka?

Hatguy
10-10-11, 10:09
Any gaijin friendly pink salon in Osaka?I'm sorry but you need to read the forum and don't expect people to answer this question. Theres an absolute wealth of information here. READ! Your other posts are just similar questions for other areas in Japan. And you dont speak Japanese? Is that you MOHAB?

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A lot of guys have asked me about the Filippina. I have given her details out accordingly. Who knows how long her situation will be this way. She told me she lost her job and was looking for money to pay the bills. I ended up just giving her what we initially agreed to. She asked for more. Don't give her more unless she gives you more. One round only is shitty IMHO. I like a girl who will keep going until you have to ask her to stop.

Back to the nampa for me.

Hatguy
10-12-11, 00:09
Not hatguy again!

Filippina update.

Ok so I said last time would be it for me with her but.

She emails me with a sob story and needs money. I refused but she pleads and I relent. Fuck me if she doesn't come ten mins late! And the complaints about her problem go on and on. Of course I tell her twice not to do it. She says sorry and we start to get down to it. I have to stop to strap up and right then she grabs her cell phone and stats texting whoever.

I really should have left then. But I needed to get some. Made her put it down and concentrate. This worked for about two mins. She started asking for more money than we agreed to.

Finally we finish and the complaints / sob story starts again. Fucking hell! Theres only so much I can take if this chick. So I get up and get dressed. She comes over and starts the whole I'm sorry shit. Too late I say. Get your shit we are going.

Get in get out and don't listen to her bullshit. Thats my advice brothers.

In my original post I said she was ok. I mean she is just ok. Nothing tremendously special.

Lion
10-12-11, 05:46
Any gaijin friendly pink salon in Osaka?NO. Why no try RTFF?

Grossman
10-12-11, 14:49
Not hatguy again!

Filippina update.

Ok so I said last time would be it for me with her but.

She emails me with a sob story and needs money. I refused but she pleads and I relent. Fuck me if she doesn't come ten mins late! And the complaints about her problem go on and on. Of course I tell her twice not to do it. She says sorry and we start to get down to it. I have to stop to strap up and right then she grabs her cell phone and stats texting whoever.

I really should have left then. But I needed to get some. Made her put it down and concentrate. This worked for about two mins. She started asking for more money than we agreed to.

Finally we finish and the complaints / sob story starts again. Fucking hell! Theres only so much I can take if this chick. So I get up and get dressed. She comes over and starts the whole I'm sorry shit. Too late I say. Get your shit we are going.

Get in get out and don't listen to her bullshit. Thats my advice brothers.

In my original post I said she was ok. I mean she is just ok. Nothing tremendously special.Hi Hatguy!

Thanks to your guidance, I'm emailing with her now. If we do eventually get down to it, I'll report back. I hope she doesn't try that shit with me, but it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried it.

Hatguy
10-13-11, 03:38
Hi Hatguy!

Thanks to your guidance, I'm emailing with her now. If we do eventually get down to it, I'll report back. I hope she doesn't try that shit with me, but it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried it.

Don't take shit from her. It's all about you getting what you pay for. Tell her if shes not going to do the right thing and complains too much you will fine her. I did.
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The below is not directed at you Grossman.

And for fucks sake no one tell her about ISG! Just want to make that as clear as possible. If someone does tell her it will be my last contribution. Over on the Korea (Seoul) forum some dumb shit told the girls about the forum. The next week they were figuring out who was who.

Deltron
10-13-11, 18:15
And for fucks sake no one tell her about ISG! Just want to make that as clear as possible.It's a sad day when this actually needs to be typed out. Seriously guys, these women are fuckin' for change, why mess up a good thing? This site does not and has NEVER existed. Period.

Grossman
10-14-11, 10:06
Don't take shit from her. It's all about you getting what you pay for. Tell her if she's not going to do the right thing and complains too much you will fine her. I did.

The below is not directed at you Grossman.

And for fucks sake no one tell her about ISG! Just want to make that as clear as possible. If someone does tell her it will be my last contribution. Over on the Korea (Seoul) forum some dumb shit told the girls about the forum. The next week they were figuring out who was who.Thanks Hatguy. Will do!

And yeah, although it's common sense, some people DO need to be reminded not to poison the well.

Hatguy
10-14-11, 12:01
Have been waiting to hear the outcome with her for someone. This girl actually can be a very enjoyable screw. She kinda makes lots of noise but it was good to some extent. YMMV!

Grossman
10-18-11, 11:17
Have been waiting to hear the outcome with her for someone. This girl actually can be a very enjoyable screw. She kinda makes lots of noise but it was good to some extent. YMMV!Well, I contacted her on the site, got her phone number and sms'd her. All good. But I don't want a trail on my cell phone, so I asked her to contact me at my gmail address. I asked her 5 times, but no dice. So I called her and chatted with her for a while and then asked her again to contact me at my gmail address. She said she would, but she didn't. But she kept calling my cell, so I blocked her from my cell.

If Nancy Drew finally solves the convoluted mystery of how to get in contact with me (I. E, via the email address I gave her 5 times) then we might set something up. Otherwise, I guess not.

Hatguy
10-18-11, 22:31
Well, I contacted her on the site, got her phone number and sms'd her. All good. But I don't want a trail on my cell phone, so I asked her to contact me at my email address. I asked her 5 times, but no dice. So I called her and chatted with her for a while and then asked her again to contact me at my address. She said she would, but she didn't. But she kept calling my cell, so I blocked her from my cell.

If Nancy Drew finally solves the convoluted mystery of how to get in contact with me (I. E, via the email address I gave her 5 times) then we might set something up. Otherwise, I guess not.LOL! Yes thats her. I was wondering if you had the right girl. Don't worry it's not only you she calls like that. Same with me and another guy as well. And both myself and he did what you did. Her reasoning seemed to be that she couldn't send emails from her phone or something. I've never heard of that atleast not since 1999 so I don't buy it.

She stopped replying to my sms so I have totally given up now.

Member #4243
10-20-11, 20:57
The previous poster was NOT me regarding gaijin friendly pink salons. LOL! Anyway as you can see I still from time to time scour these pages in the hope of encouraging news from tobita. One day I will get my av idols and I will conquer tobita! How I am still not sure! Anything is possible mohab

Texmex76
10-26-11, 13:09
Gentlemen,

Myself and two coworkers will be headed to Osaka next Wed and Thurs, so we are looking to have a great time here without getting ripped off. What do you recommend to hit up, this is our first time in osaka. We know very little japanese, enough to get by.

Thanks!

Naked Gaijin
10-27-11, 16:38
Gentlemen,

Myself and two coworkers will be headed to Osaka next Wed and Thurs, so we are looking to have a great time here without getting ripped off. What do you recommend to hit up, this is our first time in osaka. We know very little japanese, enough to get by.

Thanks!I recommend you read the forum before asking questions like this. Almost every post is about what you can do in Osaka to have a good time!

AussieGaigin
10-27-11, 20:20
Gentlemen,

Myself and two coworkers will be headed to Osaka next Wed and Thurs, so we are looking to have a great time here without getting ripped off. What do you recommend to hit up, this is our first time in osaka. We know very little japanese, enough to get by.

Thanks!Agree there is plenty of info already here about WHERE to go.

Hidden away in all the info is the fact that 3 foreigners in a group together may not be welcome in those few places that do accept single visitors.

Lion
10-31-11, 05:05
Visited Sakutto and had Mariko. Pict is pretty accurate.

http://www.nihon.sakutto39.com/companion/companionData.php?id=26

3900+500 for panel selection. Walked to a hotel across the street. The 4400 includes the 1500 hotel charge.

Very basic place, but for that price quite a deal and a place I might consider ordering DH to.

Mariko is skilled and friendly. She welcomes anyone who can communicate a bit.

Basic shower 5-10 min, BBBJ / CIM 10min, quick shower and out by the 25min mark.

Longer courses include other play (such as Sumata).

Saw 2 other girls while I was arriving. Both petite, one in her 40s, the other late 20s perhaps.

Not the youngest / prettiest gals, but they are foreigner friendly and provide a decent service for a good price. I might try again.

Hatguy
11-01-11, 00:02
Well, I contacted her on the site, got her phone number and sms'd her. All good. But I don't want a trail on my cell phone, so I asked her to contact me at my address. I asked her 5 times, but no dice. So I called her and chatted with her for a while and then asked her again to contact me at my email address. She said she would, but she didn't. But she kept calling my cell, so I blocked her from my cell.

If Nancy Drew finally solves the convoluted mystery of how to get in contact with me (I. E, via the email address I gave her 5 times) then we might set something up. Otherwise, I guess not.Either this girl is severely learning impaired or she just doesn't give a shit. I think it's the latter. I'm totaly done with her as she doesn't return emails out calls despite it being her asking for assistance.

I now regret bringing it up here at all. Of course get antics are not my responsibility but I just hope no one goes through her bullshit. She's certainly not as NICE a GIRL as she professes to be.

If you understand that hint. Good for you.

Josh63
11-11-11, 10:03
Thanks to Hatguy for pointing this place out! Directions are spot on.

I recently went and had Aida. Tout was very friendly and spoke good english (said he lived in the USA for a while).

Had me read 'the rules' first and then showed me some cards with photos of the girls available at that time (4. 30pm).

A few indeed fat and cross-eyed, but also slimmer and better looking ones.

He also indicated the waiting time for each girl, so I chose Aida who would be available in 20 minutes.

Service decent, as described below. She accompanied me to a nearby hotel.

Compared to Club Queen in Tennoji, this is cheaper, the lights stay on, not noisy and more private. Only thing lacking is the beer, but that can be cured!


Visited Sakutto and had Mariko. Pict is pretty accurate.

http://www.nihon.sakutto39.com/companion/companionData.php?id=26

3900+500 for panel selection. Walked to a hotel across the street. The 4400 includes the 1500 hotel charge.

Very basic place, but for that price quite a deal and a place I might consider ordering DH to.

Mariko is skilled and friendly. She welcomes anyone who can communicate a bit.

Basic shower 5-10 min, BBBJ / CIM 10min, quick shower and out by the 25min mark.

Longer courses include other play (such as Sumata).

Saw 2 other girls while I was arriving. Both petite, one in her 40s, the other late 20s perhaps.

Not the youngest / prettiest gals, but they are foreigner friendly and provide a decent service for a good price. I might try again.

Hatguy
11-11-11, 10:18
Thanks to Hatguy for pointing this place out! Directions are spot on.

I recently went and had Aida. Tout was very friendly and spoke good english (said he lived in the USA for a while).

Had me read 'the rules' first and then showed me some cards with photos of the girls available at that time (4. 30pm).

A few indeed fat and cross-eyed, but also slimmer and better looking ones.

He also indicated the waiting time for each girl, so I chose Aida who would be available in 20 minutes.

Service decent, as described below. She accompanied me to a nearby hotel.

Compared to Club Queen in Tennoji, this is cheaper, the lights stay on, not noisy and more private. Only thing lacking is the beer, but that can be cured!Funny you mention that. I'm actually at sakutto now. Waiting for one of their supposed best. Lets see.

Aida? Don't you mean Aira?

http://www.nihon.sakutto39.com/companion/companionData.php?id=13

Don't mean to get in the way of an otherwise good report.

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Someone has fucked things up! I'm fucking pissed off! I couldn't get the chick I wanted cos she refused to go with a non Japanese due to problems before. Whoever it is you are a ****! Fuck this! Im not sharing any more!

Hatguy
11-11-11, 11:27
Ran out of time on my previous report. Misaki wouldn't go with me due to what someone else did. Thanks alot who ever you are. Our options are already limited as it is! And now the whole place is in refusal if you don't speak japanese. Obviously someone went there and made a scene about something. I think it was probably about FS.

No FS guaranteed! Fucking hell!

I'm done sharing on the forums. Pms will be returned but no more from me. Grr!

Baka Guy
11-11-11, 11:36
Ran out of time on my previous report. Misaki wouldn't go with me due to what someone else did. Thanks alot who ever you are. Our options are already limited as it is! And now the whole place is in refusal if you don't speak japanese. Obviously someone went there and made a scene about something. I think it was probably about FS.

No FS guaranteed! Fucking hell!

I'm done sharing on the forums. Pms will be returned but no more from me. Grr!OK, I totally understand what you are thinking.

But, you know what. Sure, maybe someone from this forum screwed things up for you, but you never know. There are tons of non-nips in Kansai so you don't know if it was someone from here.

Hatguy, you are solid. You are legendary in this Forum. It wouldn't be the same without you.

Please reconsider and don't punish us all for what someone here might have done.

Just my 2 cents

Azure Knight
11-12-11, 02:20
That's the problem with mongering in Japan. A Japanese guy can go and be drunk and rude and belligerent and just a prick in general. The staff wouldn't like him but he would still get service. We can't do that. And it only takes one to ruin it for all. It's not fair at all but those are the rules of the game here. I think most of the regulars here are legit but there are a lot of lurkers, not to mention guys just randomly passing through who might make a quick search of the forum, find a name and a place and go from there.

These days I'm more about teaching people how to monger. Even if some ass doesn't ruin things for us, places go down all the time, or there might be a change in management that is no longer foreign-friendly. So simply just saying "go here" only works for the short term. Knowing how to work the system in your favor is a much more powerful tool.

Metabo
11-12-11, 13:50
Hatguy,

Speaking as a many-time beneficiary and longtime fan of your work, I beg you, implore you not to give up on us 99%ers. We need you. There are always going to be f#$knuts who ruin things for everyone else where ever you go. Azure knight and Baka are right. Anything could have happened.

The sad irony of it is I was planning to head down there last night. When I read about the trouble you were having I went to Tennoji instead. It's a bummer when things don't go your way. I still want to go. My Japanese is good and I don't even want FS. Just my rocks off.

Say what happened to you in the end? Did you get hooked up at all?

PopoCaca
11-13-11, 04:29
Hatguy,

Speaking as a many-time beneficiary and longtime fan of your work, I beg you, implore you not to give up on us 99%ers. We need you. There are always going to be f#$knuts who ruin things for everyone else where ever you go. Azure knight and Baka are right. Anything could have happened.

The sad irony of it is I was planning to head down there last night. When I read about the trouble you were having I went to Tennoji instead. It's a bummer when things don't go your way. I still want to go. My Japanese is good and I don't even want FS. Just my rocks off.

Say what happened to you in the end? Did you get hooked up at all?You are damn right, and please Hatguy, we need you here.

Hatguy
11-13-11, 04:57
All.

I appreciate your compliments. However, I'm just a guy that read others reports and learned from the best before trying my hand at the game. I refer to posters like AK and the veterans of the board. They lay down the tools for me so the real credit goes to them.

For me the irony of this situation is that I didn't really like Sakutto that much!

Ill share by pms but not on the board. My mind is made up on this. Hatguy

Homer69
11-14-11, 08:00
It's good you're shutting it down. I think you were giving a lot of information to people who just go out and fk it up for the rest of us who work pretty hard at this hobby. Too many guys think they can drink, be assholes and / or go out in groups and they don't realize they are messing it up for everyone else like us. You need to behave and behave with the utmost politeness in order to get serviced. Some horny asshole goes out there and gets lathered up and then thinks these ladies owe him something. This whole thing really pisses me off, too.


Ran out of time on my previous report. Misaki wouldn't go with me due to what someone else did. Thanks alot who ever you are. Our options are already limited as it is! And now the whole place is in refusal if you don't speak japanese. Obviously someone went there and made a scene about something. I think it was probably about FS.

No FS guaranteed! Fucking hell!

I'm done sharing on the forums. Pms will be returned but no more from me. Grr!

Josh63
11-14-11, 16:22
I guess it was Aira indeed, looking at the photos I am quite sure.

I sympathize with your feelings concerning "someone" screwing (!) it up for us all, since I had only Aira, you know it wasn't me.

Do you mean they now do not accept ANY foreigner anymore? Would be fair if they only refused the bastard that did it.

Any way, thanks for pointing out places in the past, hope you keep it up. Will try and visit Sakutto next week.

All the best,

Josh.


Funny you mention that. I'm actually at sakutto now. Waiting for one of their supposed best. Lets see.

Aida? Don't you mean Aira?

http://www.nihon.sakutto39.com/companion/companionData.php?id=13

Don't mean to get in the way of an otherwise good report.

Someone has fucked things up! I'm fucking pissed off! I couldn't get the chick I wanted because she refused to go with a non Japanese due to problems before. Whoever it is you are a * Fuck this! I'm not sharing any more!

Azure Knight
11-15-11, 14:14
I wrote this a while ago. I thought I posted it but my post history says apparently not? Given recent events I felt that its relevant and can be of some use, so here it is. My FAQ on mongering in Japan.

So you are coming to Japan and want to engage in the gentleman's hobby. This is a wonderful resource, but sometimes it can be hard to navigate. We tell newbies to RTFF. "read the fucking forum", but that isn't always the best response. There are thousands of posts, many of them long since outdated; shops we visited have long closed, and girls we liked and disliked have long since retired. I'm posting this to hopefully help first timers navigate through the info overload, and with any luck have a happy ending.

This will NOT be a finger pointing guide. What I hope to do here is to show you how things work. And you can go out and find what you are looking for. If you are looking for "if you want x go to why" then you can probably stop reading now.

Q1: Can I play in Japan?

Yes and no. While it is possible, the odds are against you. Japan has a thriving sex industry. For the Japanese. For the most part, it is closed off to foreigners. Sex shops and touts can be seen on the street in certain areas in major cities. But they will not solicit you, and even if you approach them, in most cases you will be turned down. Being able to play will depend on how well you can find exceptions.

Q2: Why am I being denied? Is it racism?

Man foreigners are quick to play the "racist Japanese!" card, and while that may exist, I don't believe its the primary problem.

IF YOU INTEND TO MONGER IN JAPAN, PLEASE READ THIS. KNOW HOW THE GAME WORKS BEFORE YOU TRY TO PLAY IT.

As I said before, Japan has a thriving sex industry. For the most part its fairly out in the open. Sex shops can be seen in the middle of big cities plain as day. Although prostitution is illegal by Japanese law, the law only defines that as vaginal intercourse. Sex services loophole the law by offering everything except FS. In many / most cases, FS is available. The guy has merely paid for "time" with the girl, and what she decides to do in that time is her own choice. This is a BS excuse of course, and everyone knows it. Sex services and law enforcement have a fragile relationship where if the service doesn't make waves or bring a lot of attention to itself, the police will look the other way. Even then, the police may sometimes crack down on services to show the public that they are doing something about it, or at the whims of a politician up for election.

Because Japan is mostly Japanese, we foreigners stick out like sore thumbs. We naturally gather attention just by being there. The last thing sex services want is attention, and that's why we get turned away. If too many foreigners start to frequent a place, it brings lots of attention, and the police would have to move in and do something. The police also don't want to encourage sex tourism, as their attitude towards it is "go do that in your own country". So in a situation where getting the authorities to look the other way is crucial to survival, we foreigners come with a big spotlight hanging over us. Simply put, we're high risk. Taking your yen isn't worth getting closed down.

There are other factors at play of course. Inability to communicate is a big one. The girls do put themselves in a position of vulnerability with you and taking away the basic ability to understand each other only makes her nervous and uneasy. Plus, there is already the assumption that you don't understand how the system works, so not being able to communicate with you presents a fairly big problem. Not to mention that if there is a problem, resolving it becomes that much more difficult. As for other factors, yes, sometimes racism might be a part of it too. And there's also the concern that you're bigger and rougher than the average Japanese guy and will "break" her. These issues may factor in, but the main concern is just that the risks the shop takes in accepting you outweighs whatever revenue you could possibly bring in. This is the primary reason why foreigners are not accepted. If you can understand the background, then you can better work the system in your favor.

Q3: So then, how do I play?

You'll need to find, or create, an exception to the rule. A shop owner will look at you and think "well, its money, but what if a problem arises? What if he draws attention to my shop and I get shut down? Nah, not worth it." So basically, you have to show the shop that you are low-risk. At the end of the day they still want to make money, and yours will do as long as the situations are right. There are things you can do to help your chances, as well as situations you can take advantage of.

Q4: What are my options?

Incall:

Incall refers to having a girl come to your hotel room. In Japanese, this is called "Hotel Delivery Health" or just "deli-heru". There are hundreds if not thousands of these services out there. The caveat is that you would have to phone in Japanese. So for the vast majority of you, its not an option. Even if there was some sort of script to read from, the second the guy on the other end of the line realized you aren't Japanese, he'd hang up on you.

If you know some Japanese or think you can at least stumble your way though it. Its worth a shot. The worst that happens is that you get hung up on. You might get lucky and find a place willing to accept you. You can check here for any foreigner-OK deli-heru that has been posted up, or search for deliheru in katakana in google and strike out on your own.

Korean and / or Chinese based deli-heru usually accept foreigners. You can add the kanji for Korea or China to your search to look for these places specifically. The guy on the other end of the phone most likely does not speak English, so you will still need to be able to communicate what you want in Japanese at least. If you are lucky, you may find a site with a web-based system that will let you put in an order. Korean and Chinese deli-heru usually offer FS. A downside however is that the quality / service sometimes isn't that great, and many Korean / Chinese places don't let you get off a second pop no matter how much time you have left. YMMV.

To save yourself some potential time / trouble, you can check the deliheru's home page. Look for a FAQ / Q&A page. Many of them often include the "Are foreigners allowed?" question, and this will let you know if you have a shot or not.

There are a few services dedicated to foreigners. Namely Asian Mystique and Club Boo. They are a bit pricey, but its a guaranteed option. They are mostly Tokyo based. AM has a few girls working in other areas such as Nagoya or Osaka, and their site says you have to give advance notice. Many of their Tokyo girls are available to come to Osaka, but you'll be paying a small fortune for it. If you have the money to blow and want a guaranteed option, go for it, but if you're willing to pay that much give me a cut and I'll point you in the direction of something much cheaper. =) Perhaps one day AM or other providers will expand further into other areas, but at the moment this is all we have.

If you are able to make an order. You can have the girl sent to your own residence, a regular hotel, or a love hotel. I'm not sure which ordinary hotels would stop the girl from coming in / penalize you, but you can always ask the agency for their advice on this. Any large hotel, and she can probably come up to your room no problem.

The agency will ask for the hotel you are staying in, its telephone number, and the room number. They will then call you on the hotel line to make sure you are actually in that hotel / room. If you are in a love hotel its no big deal, but if you are in a real hotel you may need to give your real name or else the agency won't be able to reach your room. Not every agency does this, but many do. Once you have been confirmed, you'll need to wait 30 minutes to an hour for the girl to show up. If, once she arrives, you just don't like her, you can send her back and request a change, but this doesn't help your reputation much, and if you are in a love hotel the time meter will continue to tick. Not to mention the additional time required in waiting for the new girl to show up.

To reduce waiting time, you can try calling in advance and making an appointment. If you are in a love hotel, you will probably need to call back when you are actually in the room, but calling in advance can help to cut down the waiting time. Also, some places will allow you to meet the girl somewhere outside, and then you can go into the hotel together, but this is not the standard I think.

Once the girl arrives, she may engage you in some small talk, after which you'll both head for the shower. After that it's play time. Be advised that not every agency / girl offers FS. NEVER ASK THE GUY ON THE PHONE. As you are in the middle of play with your girl, ask her gently if FS is okay. Some useful phrases for this are "honban wa ii desu ka?" or "irete mo daijoubu desu ka?" She will either say yes, yes with an added price, or no. What you choose is up to you, but if she says no just accept that. It is a gamble. There's no way to know whether or not you'll get FS until you're right in the middle of play, but that's just the nature of the system.

After you are finished, depending on how much time is left you may be able to play again, or just relax and enjoy conversation. Towards the end you'll take another shower, and the girl will be on her way.

Q5: How can I increase my chances of getting a successful incall?

As mentioned before, Chinese and Korean DH usually accept foreigners. Over the phone, you will need at least passable Japanese to make the order. You can try asking a Japanese friend or just someone fluent in Japanese to place the order for you. Once the girl arrives, she will probably be surprised that you aren't Japanese, but it'll be up to her if she wants to continue. Some will, some won't. If the service has a web-based system you can try that, but at some point phone conversation will probably be necessary.

Q6: I've got the girl to my room, but I really want FS.

Unless you're armed with a report on the service / girl made by the ISG, you have no way of knowing what you are going to get. If the service "unofficially" offers it great, but you might end up with a girl who doesn't offer it as her own personal choice, or just doesn't want to offer it to you.

If she says no, respect that, don't ask again, just enjoy what she does do for you. I can't stress this enough.

If you are a nice guy to her and you also involve her in the play (ie you do stuff to her too, you aren't just receiving) you can increase your chances. Yes, it is p4p, but they're human too and if she gets into it and starts enjoying herself she can come to want it herself.

Outcall:

Outcall refers to you going out to a shop and doing your business there. These places are fairly easy to spot and find. You will see a sign advertising something like "4000 yen for 30 minutes!" and usually there'll be a guy standing outside soliciting guys passing by. They will most likely not say anything to you.

There are various different types of these shops. They range from open couch-like seats which may or may not have curtains, where girls will come along and offer HJ or BJ, or places with individual booths or even rooms where you can go with your girl. Some places are only just offices, and after making the sale either the tencho or the girl herself will lead you to a love hotel. Its difficult to know what type of place it is until you've actually gone in.

Upon entering, you'll have to choose from a "menu" which features a time period and a list of services. The time periods usually range from 30 minutes. 45, 60, 90, or some places even have 2 hr plans. Of course, the cost goes up as the time does. Its also implied that your level of interaction with the girl will increase with more time. You may not get to touch her with the basic plan, at the next level up she may take off her top, and at the highest level there'd be full-nudity and you could touch her all you wanted.

FS may or may not be available. It will depend on the rules of the shop, or the specific girl you see. NEVER ASK THE TENCHO. (Tencho or mamasan = shop manager. Tencho are usually middle aged or older Japanese guys). They are not legally allowed to say yes, and you asking shows that you don't know much about how things work here. You ask the girl directly. Some useful phrases for this are "honban wa ii desu ka?" or "irete mo daijoubu desu ka?" The girl can then accept or decline you from there, but this is something you can only ask her.

As you have probably realized, this means that you kind of have to commit to the sale before you even know if FS is available. That's unfortunate, but just how it is here. If you are concerned about cash, you can try going in on a basic time plan, and ask the girl about FS. If its possible she may say yes but only with a time upgrade, at which point you'd have to fork over more cash.

If the girl says no, then the answer is no. Leave it at that. If she says yes with the extra time option, be prepared to grab your wallet. If she just says yes. Have fun!

Choosing your girl. Most places will charge extra for you to look at pictures of the girls. Usually about 1000 yen. Don't bother. The pictures are highly photoshopped or fake all together. If you don't look at pics, you can tell the tencho what kind of girl you like. Be warned that if you say "big tits" (in Japanese: "oppai ookii" or "kyo nyu") you will 95% get a fat girl. Sometimes the tencho may suggest this to you without even asking. Some adjectives to help you. Young "wakai"; slim "hosoi"; energetic "genki". Also realize that even if the tencho likes you and is on your side, the girls may not want to go with you for whatever reason. So sometimes you may find yourself in a position where you just have to take what you can get. Not ideal, but I would recommend doing it, and being a great customer. Get your foot in the door, and show them by example that they should accept you regularly.

Much like the deli-heru, there are Chinese and Korean run estutes, and these places usually accept foreigners. Look for the Chinese or Korean kanji in the shop's signboard. Not all shops however advertise it, so it doesn't hurt to just try your luck. You can also search online beforehand and find a specific place. The benefits of the Chinese / Korean joints are that FS is usually guaranteed and its also one of the cheapest options. The downsides are that the quality of both the service and the girls is sometimes lacking. My first visit to a Chinese estute, I had horrible service and it put me off that place for a year. When I went back though, I had different girls who gave me wonderful service, and that shop became one of my favorites. So as always, YMMV. Do keep in mind that all of the girls will be Chinese / Korean. So if you want a Japanese girl specifically, this won't be your route. Also, Chinese / Korean places are frequently raided by the police, so that's something to look out for. In Kansai at least a lot of the Chinese places have been hit hard and closed down permanently, so this may not be an option we can really use.

Q7: I heard that black / middle eastern guys will have a harder time than white guys. Is this true?

Yes and no. On one hand, a foreigner is a foreigner, and if the shop is sternly anti-foreigner it doesn't matter what you look like.

On the other hand, if a shop is trying to decide on whether or not they want to take a chance with you, an unassuming white guy may have better luck than a big intimidating black guy. Remember the basic rule of the game. They'll take your money, but you have to convince them that its risk-free. See Q9 for tips on how to do that. If you have a naturally intimidating or scary look, regardless of your ethnicity it may be a little harder, so you're just going to have to work a little harder to show yourself as the nice, friendly monger.

Q8: What about Asian guys?

If you are of Japanese / Chinese / Korean descent, or you just look the part, you can bluff your way into many places that even the veteran Japan monger can't. Not many Japanese people can distinguish between the Asian races, so they may not be able to tell that you aren't Japanese right off the bat.

Once you start talking, then they will probably figure things out.

Q9: Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting accepted?

Yes there is.

- Be presentable. We mongers come in all ages, shapes, and sizes, but no matter if you are the Brad Pitt or Chris Farley type, you should at least look nice. Be well-kept, nice outfit, don't look dirty / messy. I've heard that suits go a long way in helping to get you accepted. I don't know about that, but at the very least you should avoid looking like a tourist (no backpacks, cameras, maps, things like that). Also, smile and look friendly, especially if you are tall / big / intimidating.

- Avoid peak times. Peak times are Friday and Saturday nights, and anytime around holidays (Golden Week at the beginning of May, New Year's are big traffic times). Afternoons are your best bet, and if you can only do evenings weekday evenings are much better. Also try to avoid the period around payday (end of the month). During peak times, shops often have to turn away Japanese guys because of more demand than supply. Your chances will be slim to none. They'll be more inclined to take your money if no one else is around. Use the weather to your advantage. On a bad weather day there will be less people, so this increases your chances of success. Once you have established yourself at a place, you may be able to go during evening times, but keep in mind that this isn't necessarily good for the shop (a lot of Japanese guys don't like to take sloppy seconds from foreign guys, so seeing you around may put him off on that particular shop).

- Take the initiative. The shop owners will probably not call out to you, but that doesn't necessarily mean they won't accept you. Approach them with a smile and give them a greeting. You can say Hello, or "konban wa" in Japanese, or even just "ii desu ka?" which means "is it okay (for me to go here?)". From there they will either say yes, no, or try to feel you out.

- Take rejection in stride. Just because one shop turned you down, that doesn't mean that all of them will. But if you get angry and storm off, a shop that may have been considering you will quickly change their mind. Yes, they are watching you.

- NEVER go drunk.

- Don't go in large groups of foreign guys. 2 would be the max number. Even that is pushing it.

- If you can go with a Japanese guy who will vouch for you, this is like a magic ticket. It'll get you into places you ordinarily would have no chance at.

- If you are of Asian descent, or you just look Japanese enough to be mistaken for one, this will get you in the door at least. If you can speak a few basic phrases well enough, this can get you past the tencho. From there, once the girl starts talking to you, she may realize that you are not Japanese, but then it'll be up to her whether or not she wants to go forward. Some will, some won't.

Q10: Okay, I got in! What now?

- Always be as nice and polite as possible. To everyone. Tencho, the girls, staff, everyone. If you have ever worked in a service-related job, you know there's a HUGE different between customers, rude customers, and nice friendly customers. Being nice will go a long way for you.

- Even if the service was awful, do not complain about it to the tencho / staff. Stay polite, thank them, and leave. Never get angry or agitated. If you must complain, do it here on the ISG. Even if your complaints are valid, no one will take your side. Think about it. Neither you or the shop can seek out legal options or litigation, so in the end all you can do is swear to never patronize them again, and by their point of view they're taking a risk with you anyway so they don't really care if you storm off into the sunset. Again, this sucks, but its just the nature of the business. Also, remember that one girl is not representative of the whole shop. I've been plenty of places where I had bad service with one girl, but I went back to the same shop a different day, requested a different girl, and got phenomenal service. Also, if you have a complaint with the shop in general, such as getting shortchanged on time, keep in mind that the shop is probably doing the same to Japanese guys. Let them do the complaining for you.

- Be as nice as possible to the girl. Even though there is a language barrier, try to at least talk to her. It will go a long way.

- In the same idea, try to return the favor. Some fingering or DATY if you are up for it. I have gotten a LOT of freebies just because I was nice to the girl and I made an effort for her to enjoy the time as well. I've gotten FS at places that don't offer it because the girl got turned on and wanted it herself. I've had girls ignore their timers just because they're having fun too. Its a powerful tool, so I can't recommend it enough.

- Butterflying, or visiting several different shops and girls is nice, but from personal experience, I recommend finding one shop / girl you like and giving her continued patronage. Instant GFE is great, but sometimes you have to develop it, and that GFE is absolutely incredible. Also, keep in mind that turnover in this business is high, so even if you have a favorite girl, she may drop out of the industry suddenly one day, so it helps to have a shop where you are in good standing, and the tencho will help you to find a new girl.

- If you get along really well with a girl, she may ask you for a cell phone email, offer you hers, or you may be able to ask for hers. This isn't necessarily her wanting to date you (but its not impossible!). But with her contact info you can ask her directly about where and when she is working. This can give you a free pass into places you might not get into ordinarily, and if the girl works between different shops, she may sometimes let you know which is cheaper.

- Some of you may be off-put by the idea of constantly having to be nice and friendly, even if you've gotten bad service. If you're grinding your teeth at the idea, mongering in Japan may not be for you. Unfortunately, we are not on equal footing with Japanese customers. They can go to a shop dirty looking, drunk, and be foul-mouthed and rude and still get service. And many of them do. We just can't do that.

But this is actually a huge opportunity for us. Most of the girls I've talked to said that Japanese guys just come in, do their thing, and leave. And then there are the drunk / rude guys. If you establish yourself as different in a good way, this will lead to nothing but good things for you. At one shop, I'm getting double the time for half the price. Simply because I've maintained a good relationship with both the shop and the girl. Its a simple thing, but because so many Japanese don't do it, it will really make you stand out in a good way.

If nothing else, remember that your actions will reflect on the monger who comes before and after you. Many guys find a shop that will accept foreigners, enjoy going there, but are suddenly turned away one day because some random guy came in, was a *******, and ruined it for everyone. That isn't a random example, it happens all the time. It lowers the number of shops that we can actually go to, and it makes people not want to share information for fear of having a good thing ruined. Everyone loses.

Q11: Well, that was fun! I want to share my findings on the ISG.

I appreciate your generosity. However, hold your horses. Did you find a place that is foreign-friendly, or did you manage to create an exception for yourself? If the latter, don't bother posting on ISG. Other guys won't get accepted, and in the end you'll just lose your resource. For example, I know of a small little BJ shop where I have access to. I only have access because the tout has seen me walking around town for years and knows I live here. We chatted one day and upon seeing I knew the language and knew how things worked, he invited me in. This doesn't mean the shop is foreigner-friendly. The guy just knew me and decided I was okay. I couldn't post it here because you would all get denied.

Even if you do find a foreigner-friendly place, posting it up publicly means that any random guy reading can find the info, go out there, and if he acts like an ass, ruin it. Plus, if a shop starts getting too much foreign traffic it'll start gathering attention and become more susceptible to closing down. I'm not recommending we all become stingy about info sharing. I doubt I'd have come as far as I did without the ISG to guide me in the initial stages. But just keep in mind that sometimes too much info is a bad thing as well.

Naniwan
11-16-11, 01:31
Great reminder post, AZ. Just to add;

If you do go with a Japanese friend it's even more important that you don't mess it up; his reputation is also on the line so asking for FS is iffy at best. I have to agree with AZ too, I find the best way, once you're accepted, is to find a girl you like, and stick with her. The GFE is much better. For example, I used to be a regular visitor to Freajia (Now Tsumaten) , I chose the same girl almost on a weekly basis at one point. Now that it's Tsumaten she quit a while back but still lets me meet her for for the same prices at Freajia without a hotel charge!

AussieGaigin
11-16-11, 11:43
This is an excellent review of the situation in Japan; many thanks to AK for his efforts.

I feel it should be placed in its own thread within the Japan section.

The topic seems to come up regularly in all the threads, but the advice is soon lost; keeping it separate would avoid this problem.

Can I get a seconder for this motion?

AG in Oz.

Hatguy
11-16-11, 12:55
This is an excellent review of the situation in Japan; many thanks to AK for his efforts.

I feel it should be placed in its own thread within the Japan section.

The topic seems to come up regularly in all the threads, but the advice is soon lost; keeping it separate would avoid this problem.

Can I get a seconder for this motion?

AG in Oz.Yes mate you can. I put it in the exceptional reports thread. But if Jackson wants to delete that and make it a thread I have no objections.

Once again, AK you have really lead the way. I needed that kind of guidance when I started.

All newbies need that summary.

Metabo
11-28-11, 15:13
Hey,

Any you boys been back to Okusama since Hatguy's bad night there?

Still really want to go, just don't know if it's okay or not.

Bluerose
11-29-11, 03:18
I wrote this a while ago. I thought I posted it but my post history says apparently not? Given recent events I felt that its relevant and can be of some use, so here it is. My FAQ on mongering in Japan.

So you are coming to Japan and want to engage in the gentleman's hobby. This is a wonderful resource, but sometimes it can be hard to navigate. We tell newbies to RTFF."read the fucking forum", but that isn't always the best response. There are thousands of posts, many of them long since outdated; shops we visited have long closed, and girls we liked and disliked have long since retired. I'm posting this to hopefully help first timers navigate through the info overload, and with any luck have a happy ending.

This will NOT be a finger pointing guide. What I hope to do here is to show you how things work. And you can go out and find what you are looking for. If you are looking for "if you want x go to why" then you can probably stop reading now.

Q1: Can I play in Japan?

Yes and no. While it is possible, the odds are against you. Japan has a thriving sex industry. For the Japanese. For the most part, it is closed off to foreigners. Sex shops and touts can be seen on the street in certain areas in major cities. But they will not solicit you, and even if you approach them, in most cases you will be turned down. Being able to play will depend on how well you can find exceptions.

Q2: Why am I being denied? Is it racism?

Man foreigners are quick to play the "racist Japanese!" card, and while that may exist, I don't believe its the primary problem.

IF YOU INTEND TO MONGER IN JAPAN, PLEASE READ THIS. KNOW HOW THE GAME WORKS BEFORE YOU TRY TO PLAY IT.

As I said before, Japan has a thriving sex industry. For the most part its fairly out in the open. Sex shops can be seen in the middle of big cities plain as day. Although prostitution is illegal by Japanese law, the law only defines that as vaginal intercourse. Sex services loophole the law by offering everything except FS. In many / most cases, FS is available. The guy has merely paid for "time" with the girl, and what she decides to do in that time is her own choice. This is a BS excuse of course, and everyone knows it. Sex services and law enforcement have a fragile relationship where if the service doesn't make waves or bring a lot of attention to itself, the police will look the other way. Even then, the police may sometimes crack down on services to show the public that they are doing something about it, or at the whims of a politician up for election.

Because Japan is mostly Japanese, we foreigners stick out like sore thumbs. We naturally gather attention just by being there. The last thing sex services want is attention, and that's why we get turned away. If too many foreigners start to frequent a place, it brings lots of attention, and the police would have to move in and do something. The police also don't want to encourage sex tourism, as their attitude towards it is "go do that in your own country". So in a situation where getting the authorities to look the other way is crucial to survival, we foreigners come with a big spotlight hanging over us. Simply put, we're high risk. Taking your yen isn't worth getting closed down.

There are other factors at play of course. Inability to communicate is a big one. The girls do put themselves in a position of vulnerability with you and taking away the basic ability to understand each other only makes her nervous and uneasy. Plus, there is already the assumption that you don't understand how the system works, so not being able to communicate with you presents a fairly big problem. Not to mention that if there is a problem, resolving it becomes that much more difficult. As for other factors, yes, sometimes racism might be a part of it too. And there's also the concern that you're bigger and rougher than the average Japanese guy and will "break" her. These issues may factor in, but the main concern is just that the risks the shop takes in accepting you outweighs whatever revenue you could possibly bring in. This is the primary reason why foreigners are not accepted. If you can understand the background, then you can better work the system in your favor.

Q3: So then, how do I play?

You'll need to find, or create, an exception to the rule. A shop owner will look at you and think "well, its money, but what if a problem arises? What if he draws attention to my shop and I get shut down? Nah, not worth it." So basically, you have to show the shop that you are low-risk. At the end of the day they still want to make money, and yours will do as long as the situations are right. There are things you can do to help your chances, as well as situations you can take advantage of.

Q4: What are my options?

Incall:

Incall refers to having a girl come to your hotel room. In Japanese, this is called "Hotel Delivery Health" or just "deli-heru". There are hundreds if not thousands of these services out there. The caveat is that you would have to phone in Japanese. So for the vast majority of you, its not an option. Even if there was some sort of script to read from, the second the guy on the other end of the line realized you aren't Japanese, he'd hang up on you.

If you know some Japanese or think you can at least stumble your way though it. Its worth a shot. The worst that happens is that you get hung up on. You might get lucky and find a place willing to accept you. You can check here for any foreigner-OK deli-heru that has been posted up, or search for deliheru in katakana in google and strike out on your own.

Korean and / or Chinese based deli-heru usually accept foreigners. You can add the kanji for Korea or China to your search to look for these places specifically. The guy on the other end of the phone most likely does not speak English, so you will still need to be able to communicate what you want in Japanese at least. If you are lucky, you may find a site with a web-based system that will let you put in an order. Korean and Chinese deli-heru usually offer FS. A downside however is that the quality / service sometimes isn't that great, and many Korean / Chinese places don't let you get off a second pop no matter how much time you have left. YMMV.

To save yourself some potential time / trouble, you can check the deliheru's home page. Look for a FAQ / Q&A page. Many of them often include the "Are foreigners allowed?" question, and this will let you know if you have a shot or not.

There are a few services dedicated to foreigners. Namely Asian Mystique and Club Boo. They are a bit pricey, but its a guaranteed option. They are mostly Tokyo based. AM has a few girls working in other areas such as Nagoya or Osaka, and their site says you have to give advance notice. Many of their Tokyo girls are available to come to Osaka, but you'll be paying a small fortune for it. If you have the money to blow and want a guaranteed option, go for it, but if you're willing to pay that much give me a cut and I'll point you in the direction of something much cheaper. =) Perhaps one day AM or other providers will expand further into other areas, but at the moment this is all we have.

If you are able to make an order. You can have the girl sent to your own residence, a regular hotel, or a love hotel. I'm not sure which ordinary hotels would stop the girl from coming in / penalize you, but you can always ask the agency for their advice on this. Any large hotel, and she can probably come up to your room no problem.

The agency will ask for the hotel you are staying in, its telephone number, and the room number. They will then call you on the hotel line to make sure you are actually in that hotel / room. If you are in a love hotel its no big deal, but if you are in a real hotel you may need to give your real name or else the agency won't be able to reach your room. Not every agency does this, but many do. Once you have been confirmed, you'll need to wait 30 minutes to an hour for the girl to show up. If, once she arrives, you just don't like her, you can send her back and request a change, but this doesn't help your reputation much, and if you are in a love hotel the time meter will continue to tick. Not to mention the additional time required in waiting for the new girl to show up.

To reduce waiting time, you can try calling in advance and making an appointment. If you are in a love hotel, you will probably need to call back when you are actually in the room, but calling in advance can help to cut down the waiting time. Also, some places will allow you to meet the girl somewhere outside, and then you can go into the hotel together, but this is not the standard I think.

Once the girl arrives, she may engage you in some small talk, after which you'll both head for the shower. After that it's play time. Be advised that not every agency / girl offers FS. NEVER ASK THE GUY ON THE PHONE. As you are in the middle of play with your girl, ask her gently if FS is okay. Some useful phrases for this are "honban wa ii desu ka?" or "irete mo daijoubu desu ka?" She will either say yes, yes with an added price, or no. What you choose is up to you, but if she says no just accept that. It is a gamble. There's no way to know whether or not you'll get FS until you're right in the middle of play, but that's just the nature of the system.

After you are finished, depending on how much time is left you may be able to play again, or just relax and enjoy conversation. Towards the end you'll take another shower, and the girl will be on her way.

Q5: How can I increase my chances of getting a successful incall?

As mentioned before, Chinese and Korean DH usually accept foreigners. Over the phone, you will need at least passable Japanese to make the order. You can try asking a Japanese friend or just someone fluent in Japanese to place the order for you. Once the girl arrives, she will probably be surprised that you aren't Japanese, but it'll be up to her if she wants to continue. Some will, some won't. If the service has a web-based system you can try that, but at some point phone conversation will probably be necessary.

Q6: I've got the girl to my room, but I really want FS.

Unless you're armed with a report on the service / girl made by the ISG, you have no way of knowing what you are going to get. If the service "unofficially" offers it great, but you might end up with a girl who doesn't offer it as her own personal choice, or just doesn't want to offer it to you.

If she says no, respect that, don't ask again, just enjoy what she does do for you. I can't stress this enough.

If you are a nice guy to her and you also involve her in the play (ie you do stuff to her too, you aren't just receiving) you can increase your chances. Yes, it is p4p, but they're human too and if she gets into it and starts enjoying herself she can come to want it herself.

Outcall:

Outcall refers to you going out to a shop and doing your business there. These places are fairly easy to spot and find. You will see a sign advertising something like "4000 yen for 30 minutes!" and usually there'll be a guy standing outside soliciting guys passing by. They will most likely not say anything to you.

There are various different types of these shops. They range from open couch-like seats which may or may not have curtains, where girls will come along and offer HJ or BJ, or places with individual booths or even rooms where you can go with your girl. Some places are only just offices, and after making the sale either the tencho or the girl herself will lead you to a love hotel. Its difficult to know what type of place it is until you've actually gone in.

Upon entering, you'll have to choose from a "menu" which features a time period and a list of services. The time periods usually range from 30 minutes. 45, 60, 90, or some places even have 2 hr plans. Of course, the cost goes up as the time does. Its also implied that your level of interaction with the girl will increase with more time. You may not get to touch her with the basic plan, at the next level up she may take off her top, and at the highest level there'd be full-nudity and you could touch her all you wanted.

FS may or may not be available. It will depend on the rules of the shop, or the specific girl you see. NEVER ASK THE TENCHO. (Tencho or mamasan = shop manager. Tencho are usually middle aged or older Japanese guys). They are not legally allowed to say yes, and you asking shows that you don't know much about how things work here. You ask the girl directly. Some useful phrases for this are "honban wa ii desu ka?" or "irete mo daijoubu desu ka?" The girl can then accept or decline you from there, but this is something you can only ask her.

As you have probably realized, this means that you kind of have to commit to the sale before you even know if FS is available. That's unfortunate, but just how it is here. If you are concerned about cash, you can try going in on a basic time plan, and ask the girl about FS. If its possible she may say yes but only with a time upgrade, at which point you'd have to fork over more cash.

If the girl says no, then the answer is no. Leave it at that. If she says yes with the extra time option, be prepared to grab your wallet. If she just says yes. Have fun!

Choosing your girl. Most places will charge extra for you to look at pictures of the girls. Usually about 1000 yen. Don't bother. The pictures are highly photoshopped or fake all together. If you don't look at pics, you can tell the tencho what kind of girl you like. Be warned that if you say "big tits" (in Japanese: "oppai ookii" or "kyo nyu") you will 95% get a fat girl. Sometimes the tencho may suggest this to you without even asking. Some adjectives to help you. Young "wakai"; slim "hosoi"; energetic "genki". Also realize that even if the tencho likes you and is on your side, the girls may not want to go with you for whatever reason. So sometimes you may find yourself in a position where you just have to take what you can get. Not ideal, but I would recommend doing it, and being a great customer. Get your foot in the door, and show them by example that they should accept you regularly.

Much like the deli-heru, there are Chinese and Korean run estutes, and these places usually accept foreigners. Look for the Chinese or Korean kanji in the shop's signboard. Not all shops however advertise it, so it doesn't hurt to just try your luck. You can also search online beforehand and find a specific place. The benefits of the Chinese / Korean joints are that FS is usually guaranteed and its also one of the cheapest options. The downsides are that the quality of both the service and the girls is sometimes lacking. My first visit to a Chinese estute, I had horrible service and it put me off that place for a year. When I went back though, I had different girls who gave me wonderful service, and that shop became one of my favorites. So as always, YMMV. Do keep in mind that all of the girls will be Chinese / Korean. So if you want a Japanese girl specifically, this won't be your route. Also, Chinese / Korean places are frequently raided by the police, so that's something to look out for. In Kansai at least a lot of the Chinese places have been hit hard and closed down permanently, so this may not be an option we can really use.

Q7: I heard that black / middle eastern guys will have a harder time than white guys. Is this true?

Yes and no. On one hand, a foreigner is a foreigner, and if the shop is sternly anti-foreigner it doesn't matter what you look like.

On the other hand, if a shop is trying to decide on whether or not they want to take a chance with you, an unassuming white guy may have better luck than a big intimidating black guy. Remember the basic rule of the game. They'll take your money, but you have to convince them that its risk-free. See Q9 for tips on how to do that. If you have a naturally intimidating or scary look, regardless of your ethnicity it may be a little harder, so you're just going to have to work a little harder to show yourself as the nice, friendly monger.

Q8: What about Asian guys?

If you are of Japanese / Chinese / Korean descent, or you just look the part, you can bluff your way into many places that even the veteran Japan monger can't. Not many Japanese people can distinguish between the Asian races, so they may not be able to tell that you aren't Japanese right off the bat.

Once you start talking, then they will probably figure things out.

Q9: Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting accepted?

Yes there is.

- Be presentable. We mongers come in all ages, shapes, and sizes, but no matter if you are the Brad Pitt or Chris Farley type, you should at least look nice. Be well-kept, nice outfit, don't look dirty / messy. I've heard that suits go a long way in helping to get you accepted. I don't know about that, but at the very least you should avoid looking like a tourist (no backpacks, cameras, maps, things like that). Also, smile and look friendly, especially if you are tall / big / intimidating.

- Avoid peak times. Peak times are Friday and Saturday nights, and anytime around holidays (Golden Week at the beginning of May, New Year's are big traffic times). Afternoons are your best bet, and if you can only do evenings weekday evenings are much better. Also try to avoid the period around payday (end of the month). During peak times, shops often have to turn away Japanese guys because of more demand than supply. Your chances will be slim to none. They'll be more inclined to take your money if no one else is around. Use the weather to your advantage. On a bad weather day there will be less people, so this increases your chances of success. Once you have established yourself at a place, you may be able to go during evening times, but keep in mind that this isn't necessarily good for the shop (a lot of Japanese guys don't like to take sloppy seconds from foreign guys, so seeing you around may put him off on that particular shop).

- Take the initiative. The shop owners will probably not call out to you, but that doesn't necessarily mean they won't accept you. Approach them with a smile and give them a greeting. You can say Hello, or "konban wa" in Japanese, or even just "ii desu ka?" which means "is it okay (for me to go here?)". From there they will either say yes, no, or try to feel you out.

- Take rejection in stride. Just because one shop turned you down, that doesn't mean that all of them will. But if you get angry and storm off, a shop that may have been considering you will quickly change their mind. Yes, they are watching you.

- NEVER go drunk.

- Don't go in large groups of foreign guys. 2 would be the max number. Even that is pushing it.

- If you can go with a Japanese guy who will vouch for you, this is like a magic ticket. It'll get you into places you ordinarily would have no chance at.

- If you are of Asian descent, or you just look Japanese enough to be mistaken for one, this will get you in the door at least. If you can speak a few basic phrases well enough, this can get you past the tencho. From there, once the girl starts talking to you, she may realize that you are not Japanese, but then it'll be up to her whether or not she wants to go forward. Some will, some won't.

Q10: Okay, I got in! What now?

- Always be as nice and polite as possible. To everyone. Tencho, the girls, staff, everyone. If you have ever worked in a service-related job, you know there's a HUGE different between customers, rude customers, and nice friendly customers. Being nice will go a long way for you.

- Even if the service was awful, do not complain about it to the tencho / staff. Stay polite, thank them, and leave. Never get angry or agitated. If you must complain, do it here on the ISG. Even if your complaints are valid, no one will take your side. Think about it. Neither you or the shop can seek out legal options or litigation, so in the end all you can do is swear to never patronize them again, and by their point of view they're taking a risk with you anyway so they don't really care if you storm off into the sunset. Again, this sucks, but its just the nature of the business. Also, remember that one girl is not representative of the whole shop. I've been plenty of places where I had bad service with one girl, but I went back to the same shop a different day, requested a different girl, and got phenomenal service. Also, if you have a complaint with the shop in general, such as getting shortchanged on time, keep in mind that the shop is probably doing the same to Japanese guys. Let them do the complaining for you.

- Be as nice as possible to the girl. Even though there is a language barrier, try to at least talk to her. It will go a long way.

- In the same idea, try to return the favor. Some fingering or DATY if you are up for it. I have gotten a LOT of freebies just because I was nice to the girl and I made an effort for her to enjoy the time as well. I've gotten FS at places that don't offer it because the girl got turned on and wanted it herself. I've had girls ignore their timers just because they're having fun too. Its a powerful tool, so I can't recommend it enough.

- Butterflying, or visiting several different shops and girls is nice, but from personal experience, I recommend finding one shop / girl you like and giving her continued patronage. Instant GFE is great, but sometimes you have to develop it, and that GFE is absolutely incredible. Also, keep in mind that turnover in this business is high, so even if you have a favorite girl, she may drop out of the industry suddenly one day, so it helps to have a shop where you are in good standing, and the tencho will help you to find a new girl.

- If you get along really well with a girl, she may ask you for a cell phone email, offer you hers, or you may be able to ask for hers. This isn't necessarily her wanting to date you (but its not impossible!). But with her contact info you can ask her directly about where and when she is working. This can give you a free pass into places you might not get into ordinarily, and if the girl works between different shops, she may sometimes let you know which is cheaper.

- Some of you may be off-put by the idea of constantly having to be nice and friendly, even if you've gotten bad service. If you're grinding your teeth at the idea, mongering in Japan may not be for you. Unfortunately, we are not on equal footing with Japanese customers. They can go to a shop dirty looking, drunk, and be foul-mouthed and rude and still get service. And many of them do. We just can't do that.

But this is actually a huge opportunity for us. Most of the girls I've talked to said that Japanese guys just come in, do their thing, and leave. And then there are the drunk / rude guys. If you establish yourself as different in a good way, this will lead to nothing but good things for you. At one shop, I'm getting double the time for half the price. Simply because I've maintained a good relationship with both the shop and the girl. Its a simple thing, but because so many Japanese don't do it, it will really make you stand out in a good way.

If nothing else, remember that your actions will reflect on the monger who comes before and after you. Many guys find a shop that will accept foreigners, enjoy going there, but are suddenly turned away one day because some random guy came in, was a, and ruined it for everyone. That isn't a random example, it happens all the time. It lowers the number of shops that we can actually go to, and it makes people not want to share information for fear of having a good thing ruined. Everyone loses.

Q11: Well, that was fun! I want to share my findings on the ISG.

I appreciate your generosity. However, hold your horses. Did you find a place that is foreign-friendly, or did you manage to create an exception for yourself? If the latter, don't bother posting on ISG. Other guys won't get accepted, and in the end you'll just lose your resource. For example, I know of a small little BJ shop where I have access to. I only have access because the tout has seen me walking around town for years and knows I live here. We chatted one day and upon seeing I knew the language and knew how things worked, he invited me in. This doesn't mean the shop is foreigner-friendly. The guy just knew me and decided I was okay. I couldn't post it here because you would all get denied.

Even if you do find a foreigner-friendly place, posting it up publicly means that any random guy reading can find the info, go out there, and if he acts like an ass, ruin it. Plus, if a shop starts getting too much foreign traffic it'll start gathering attention and become more susceptible to closing down. I'm not recommending we all become stingy about info sharing. I doubt I'd have come as far as I did without the ISG to guide me in the initial stages. But just keep in mind that sometimes too much info is a bad thing as well.Azure Knight, this is a report of the year for the Japan section and I second your opinions expressed herein. I just would like to add that you can ask tencho and girls about AF (anal fuck) , since it is technically legal and many shops have it on their options menu anyway. I also know girls who prefer to offer AF than honban (vaginal intercourse).

Moreover, SM and M sekan shops are also more open to foreigners in general or at leats they are willing to give a try, especially if you go for M course and once you are in with a mistress or chi-jo (S-lite) girl, AF is always a possibility especially after one or two visits. Some mistresses will only allow AF if they have pegged you enough in the first place, chi-jo girls are easier if they like AF and they like you enough. So having said that, it should be noted that these shops are not for everyone.

Ramrod80
12-03-11, 13:16
Aloha from Hawaii all you fellow mongers out here in the Osaka area, I just have some questions to ask all you pro's out here in Osaka, Japan. I truly LOVE Japanese women as I am married to one myself for the past 11 years now. Every year we always stay at the Hotel Nikko in Osaka and I truly just love how these Japanese women dress and look whenever I walk around or just shop at Takashimaya and look at all these beautiful ladies all over the place. I am not your average looking asian male. I am about 6 feet tall with a pretty athletic build and have a little Chinese, Spanish, and Filipino mix but could definitely pass for asian. My Japanese is pretty minimal but I am wondering if you would know of any places that are walking distance from the Nikko hotel where I could get some play by a true Japanese woman? I always get smiles and looks from Japanese women here because I do look a little different to them in my eyes and I just want to get a taste of some Nihon action as I had just got back from vacation from Osaka just yesterday and I am back in Hawaii now = (. I love my wife dearly, but I just want to try something with no strings attached here in Japan. I usually have time to myself sometimes because my wife is always meeting her friends or going shopping, but I just want to go somewhere where I can meet someone and have a good time.

Living here in Hawaii, we have tons of Massage Parlors here, but I am so tired of pounding all these Korean and Chinese women here and finding a Japanese woman working at these places are like finding Bigfoot or the Lochness Monster. Anyway, for you Hatguy or Azure Knight ot anyone else, can you please give me some pointers as I will have a gameplan for nextyear when I go on my annual trip with my wife again. I have been to the Apollo building before with my brother in law and I got nothing but titty sucking and kissing but nothing else and cost me and arm and a leg.

If any of you mongers are ever in Hawaii, I will definitely be your guide to the BEST places we have here in the Aloha State if you give me some scoops on how to hookup with some awesome looking Japanese women over in Osaka.

Aloha once again,

Ramrod80

Geescummy
12-05-11, 10:37
Aloha from Hawaii all you fellow mongers out here in the Osaka area.

Ramrod80Hey Ramrod80,

Honestly if I was in Osaka I would hit up Tobita Shin for around ichi-man roku yen (160 USD equivalent) you can have top quality pure Japanese pussy. http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2010/08/19/a-real-red-light-district-off-the-beaten-path/

Just google around for directions or you can find them here by running a search. I will be in Japan this April and might wind up taking the bullet train from Tokyo to Osaka just to bang out a few of these hotties my wife knows I'm a scum bag and just allows it to go on. I haven't been here since 2006. I'm married to a native Japanese women as well for 9 years! This is a very short 15 to 20 min. Train ride from most places in Osaka. I would go by myself so you can take your time and be selective. If you here "dozo dozo" from the mama san don't be shocked. This should be enough to get you there.

http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/

Have fun!

Hatguy
12-07-11, 00:47
It's funny how people come on and obviously don't read the forum then expect us all to answer questions. I won't be rude about it like others but please read back a bit. I personally won't be sharing specific places due to what happened recently.

I did get a lot of pms from guys asking me to come back and post. The thing is I decided about the same time to do my mongering out of Japan. Mainly due to financial reasons but also because Kansai is such a small scene and I don't want to get busted by my friends etc. Out of sight is out of mind etc etc. Hatguy

Ps. Ichiman roku en? You are missing a "sen" there I think. Hatguy the haole

Geescummy
12-07-11, 05:22
Ps. Ichiman roku en? You are missing a "sen" there I think. Hatguy the haoleYeah, you're correct! I missed the sen after "roku" and of course the silent "Y" in Yen becomes "en" and not "Yen"! My favorite one is the Japanese "G" pronounced with a nasal like sounding "N" like the subway station "Sugamo" sounds like "Sugyanamo"! That tells you my Japanese skills need practice but at least people get my point. Sorry to here that you're not posting anymore! I understand about the small world and not wanted to be caught out there. I remember years ago when I first stumbled upon this site around 2003 or so I was amazed but did not realize all the useful information on this site until I really started navigating around all through the archives and then I discovered the spots to go to but I agree that people need to do there homework before asking obvious questions and directions that have already been posted here plenty of times.

FunInKyoto69
12-10-11, 17:04
Has anyone tried any Korean delivery service here in Kyoto? Kansai? I would like to get some feedback if it's worth it or not. Also, Is FS possible?

Thanks in advance

Bijinnampa
12-12-11, 16:30
Hi folks,

Anyone who recently went to the tsumaten shops? Was some time since mongering, so thought of trying it again. They used to be GFE = gaijin friendly experience, and had some real fun there. Also wonder if their AF option girls are AF or just a codeword.

BR

Naniwan
12-15-11, 03:34
Hi folks,

Anyone who recently went to the tsumaten shops? Was some time since mongering, so thought of trying it again. They used to be GFE = gaijin friendly experience, and had some real fun there. Also wonder if their AF option girls are AF or just a codeword.

BRHey mate,

I went to Tsumaten when they just changed hands from being Freajia. I have to say, I think the new tencho was a dick and totally put me off going back. I got the feeling I wasn't that much welcome anymore compared to the older ojisan that used to run things before. I'm guessing it's still friendly but might be a case of TTFT.

It's been well over a year since I did any mongering. My last was a few older Filipina's from Tagged. Freebies are fun but those Filipina's can be nutz x_X

EnjoyJapan
12-23-11, 10:31
[QUOTE=FunInKyoto69; 1225563]Has anyone tried any Korean delivery service here in Kyoto? Kansai? I would like to get some feedback if it's worth it or not. Also, Is FS possible?

I love them. The are the best. No hassle and every time is a "happy finish". I have only done this in Osaka. But price is a more than some other places but the girls are always good looking. Be careful though that ALL the pictures are touched up to a point that you are not even sure if it is the same girl. I like Mai Hime. I speak Japanese so it is not a problem to call and request. They know me now so no problems. Not sure what the reaction is if you do not speak Japanese.

That is why I only take sites / girls that have the video so I can be a little more sure.

Enjoy.

Question: Does anyone know if Toukaen is still around in Doyama? I have never been there but reading some old reports on this site I want to give it a try. I was interested in the 3P posted by Azure Knight a couple of years ago it seems.

Metabo
12-25-11, 01:57
Just wanted to mention to you guys that Tobita is still going strong, despite the recent droughts elsewhere.

It's rubbish that gaijin can't get laid down there. I have never been turned down. I'm not great in Japanese and usually pretty pissed when I show up, but always seem to get in. Not bragging here. Merely making a case that one can indulge quite easily should one want to.

Fight-o

Hunter20
12-25-11, 20:03
Hi folks,

Anyone who recently went to the tsumaten shops? Was some time since mongering, so thought of trying it again. They used to be GFE = gaijin friendly experience, and had some real fun there. Also wonder if their AF option girls are AF or just a codeword.

BRLast August, I had a date with a lady whom I had met through JapanCupid. The date ended with a good-night kiss on the cheek. I wouldn't have said no if the date had gone further.

So I went to Tsumaten, around 11 PM. No problems to get service. I paid 11, 000 Yen for 1 hour and could choose the girl from a picture menu. Don't remember her name.

We went to a love hotel about 5 min. Away. She offered a free beer, I didn't want it because I already had drunk quite a bit, but she insisted to take it. Then I got a fairly good service: She washed me off in the bathroom till I got a hard-on, I got a massage, BBBJ, some cuddling and light kisses, a HJ, but I couldn't cum. Too much booze I guess. But the experience was good anyway.

Naniwan
12-26-11, 01:27
Question: Does anyone know if Toukaen is still around in Doyama? I have never been there but reading some old reports on this site I want to give it a try. I was interested in the 3P posted by Azure Knight a couple of years ago it seems.It's still there not it's not quite as good as it used to be (it's closed and re-opened a bunch of times with different names). I went there about a year ago probably now (2-3 times) , and whilst the girls are smoking it's very very substandard fake FS. YMMV but I got the old 2 mins in "I'm coming I'm coming, come together!". A total turn off but hey, they're hot! .

Azure Knight
12-26-11, 17:16
Last time I went was 6 or 8 months ago? The entire building had been closed down. I wouldn't be surprised if it was gone for good, or had re-surfaced under a new name / management. Either way.

With the Chinese places YMMV. Usually the service is sub-par but a lot of that will depend on the girl. You can find some gems, and you can't beat the price.

Chinese places are usually the first to be raided, and raided frequently. Cops will let Japanese-run places slide but the Chinese don't get the same courtesy. So be extra careful if hitting up these options.

Zcorps
12-30-11, 07:47
So I've taken a general break from mongering for a million reasons, but I recently dove back in.

A while ago I posted that I've been using deai sites like waku waku mail or happymail to meet girls for p4p. I've come to the conclusions that it's great for getting some weird fetish of yours taken care of, or setting up something out of the norm, but for normal p4p you're better off with deriheru. Because you don't usually get accurate pictures it's an absolute minefield when trying to find someone. Of the girls that I've met through those sites, I've only met two who were cute, the rest of them were meh at best.

Anyways, here's a report on togano-cho. The area around freajia. You'll probably need a decent amount of Japanese to pull off what I did, but give it a shot.

Tit Bar

Walked into one of those free information places and told him I was in the mood for chatting up girls and maybe coping a feel, but no real play. Now I say this, but my ultimate goal was to meet a few girls, check them out, and try and negotiate something for afterwards. I noticed a few reports on the Tokyo forums were this occurred so I though I'd give it a shot. The man at he information booth was helpful and said there were several places that accept foreigners (He didn't mention how much Japanese you needed, but I assume if you can communicate that you want to head to these places it's fine). He called up a few places, found which ones were open, and off I went.

Paid 6000 yen for 40 minutes with nomihoudai. 3 different girls come to your booth, take off their top and make out with you. I chatted each one up for a short amount of time. I asked the girls if they were free afterwards. The 1st girl said she was busy. The 2nd girl said she had already made plans, but the third one (and by far the cutest) said that her shift was about to end. If I extended an hour and did a shimei (a nomination where I get her specifically) she would come out with me. It was 8000 yen for 60 minutes plus 2000 nomination fee. 16000 yen total. We hung out until her shift ended then left together. I didn't actually negotiate going to a hotel with her, but we grabbed some drinks and ended up at a hotel anyways. No extra charge, just the price for drinks and a hotel.

Random Hotel Health

Next night I went out drinking with some coworkers. I was a bit horny afterwards so I decided to hit up togano-cho. The trains had stopped by this point (we were drinking for a while) so the information shops had closed. I approached a few old men, told them I spoke Japanese and asked what they could do for me. One told me I could only do Chinese girls, but I really don't like those Chinese massage places. The next guy told me it would be fine. 16000 yen for an hour, and I was shown pictures of a couple of girls. The pictures are real, but photoshoped beyond recognition. The girl arrived and it was clear she had been hit with the ugly stick a few times. That being said, service was good, no FS, but BJ and sumata. She was also willing to lick my bumhole, but I'd rather pass. I've done this a few times and though the girls are never knockouts, there are a few decent looking girls. Also, several of the girls will do FS, but that's the girl's decision. Not the shops.

I'm leaving this report just so you guys know these options exist. Not so much that I reccommend doing them.

BigManJapan
12-30-11, 11:41
So I've taken a general break from mongering for a million reasons, but I recently dove back in.

A while ago I posted that I've been using deai sites like waku waku mail or happymail to meet girls for p4p. I've come to the conclusions that it's great for getting some weird fetish of yours taken care of, or setting up something out of the norm, but for normal p4p you're better off with deriheru. Because you don't usually get accurate pictures it's an absolute minefield when trying to find someone. Of the girls that I've met through those sites, I've only met two who were cute, the rest of them were meh at best.

Anyways, here's a report on togano-cho. The area around freajia. You'll probably need a decent amount of Japanese to pull off what I did, but give it a shot.

Tit Bar

Walked into one of those free information places and told him I was in the mood for chatting up girls and maybe coping a feel, but no real play. Now I say this, but my ultimate goal was to meet a few girls, check them out, and try and negotiate something for afterwards. I noticed a few reports on the Tokyo forums were this occurred so I though I'd give it a shot. The man at he information booth was helpful and said there were several places that accept foreigners (He didn't mention how much Japanese you needed, but I assume if you can communicate that you want to head to these places it's fine). He called up a few places, found which ones were open, and off I went.

Paid 6000 yen for 40 minutes with nomihoudai. 3 different girls come to your booth, take off their top and make out with you. I chatted each one up for a short amount of time. I asked the girls if they were free afterwards. The 1st girl said she was busy. The 2nd girl said she had already made plans, but the third one (and by far the cutest) said that her shift was about to end. If I extended an hour and did a shimei (a nomination where I get her specifically) she would come out with me. It was 8000 yen for 60 minutes plus 2000 nomination fee. 16000 yen total. We hung out until her shift ended then left together. I didn't actually negotiate going to a hotel with her, but we grabbed some drinks and ended up at a hotel anyways. No extra charge, just the price for drinks and a hotel.

Random Hotel Health

Next night I went out drinking with some coworkers. I was a bit horny afterwards so I decided to hit up togano-cho. The trains had stopped by this point (we were drinking for a while) so the information shops had closed. I approached a few old men, told them I spoke Japanese and asked what they could do for me. One told me I could only do Chinese girls, but I really don't like those Chinese massage places. The next guy told me it would be fine. 16000 yen for an hour, and I was shown pictures of a couple of girls. The pictures are real, but photoshoped beyond recognition. The girl arrived and it was clear she had been hit with the ugly stick a few times. That being said, service was good, no FS, but BJ and sumata. She was also willing to lick my bumhole, but I'd rather pass. I've done this a few times and though the girls are never knockouts, there are a few decent looking girls. Also, several of the girls will do FS, but that's the girl's decision. Not the shops.

I'm leaving this report just so you guys know these options exist. Not so much that I reccommend doing them.Just a question, what's the happy mail and waku waku site addresses? I signed up for about 20 of theses type sites but not those two you mentioned. Here is how it's gone down every single time. I've been given enough points for like 6 mails at the start. A girl will mail me or I will mail one, then we agree on a yen amount and a station to meet at and a time, usually she tells me what she'll be wearing. Then as soon as the time approaches she starts frantically mailing me that she can't find me at the station (its empty and I'm the only damn gaijin there and obvious to spot) she starts begging me to buy points so we can trade phone numbers. I'm not an idiot I know this is a ploy to get me to buy points and I use my last freebie points to tell her to fuck off LOL they seem like bots but they communicate perfectly so they must be an army of people sitting around trying to trick people into buying their stupid points which I always make clear on first contact I will under no cercimstances buy any. Funny thing is the girl will mail you like 50 times a day begging to meet you and using details from your prior conversation. So how do you get to meet REAL girls on these sites?

Zcorps
12-31-11, 02:03
Just a question, what's the happy mail and waku waku site addresses? I signed up for about 20 of theses type sites but not those two you mentioned. Here is how it's gone down every single time. I've been given enough points for like 6 mails at the start. A girl will mail me or I will mail one, then we agree on a yen amount and a station to meet at and a time, usually she tells me what she'll be wearing. Then as soon as the time approaches she starts frantically mailing me that she can't find me at the station (its empty and I'm the only damn gaijin there and obvious to spot) she starts begging me to buy points so we can trade phone numbers. I'm not an idiot I know this is a ploy to get me to buy points and I use my last freebie points to tell her to fuck off LOL they seem like bots but they communicate perfectly so they must be an army of people sitting around trying to trick people into buying their stupid points which I always make clear on first contact I will under no cercimstances buy any. Funny thing is the girl will mail you like 50 times a day begging to meet you and using details from your prior conversation. So how do you get to meet REAL girls on these sites?550909. Com and happymail. Co. Jp.

These two are legit, but you have to send in some form of age verification. That usually amounts to some sort of I'd scanned and any personal identifying information outside of your birthday blacked out. I think there's a free 200 points, which should be enough actually meet a girl. The girls on these sites don't even mention buying points nor would they give you an email begging to meet you afterwards.

Azure Knight
01-02-12, 14:15
Just a question, what's the happy mail and waku waku site addresses? I signed up for about 20 of theses type sites but not those two you mentioned. Here is how it's gone down every single time. I've been given enough points for like 6 mails at the start. A girl will mail me or I will mail one, then we agree on a yen amount and a station to meet at and a time, usually she tells me what she'll be wearing. Then as soon as the time approaches she starts frantically mailing me that she can't find me at the station (its empty and I'm the only damn gaijin there and obvious to spot) she starts begging me to buy points so we can trade phone numbers. I'm not an idiot I know this is a ploy to get me to buy points and I use my last freebie points to tell her to fuck off LOL they seem like bots but they communicate perfectly so they must be an army of people sitting around trying to trick people into buying their stupid points which I always make clear on first contact I will under no cercimstances buy any. Funny thing is the girl will mail you like 50 times a day begging to meet you and using details from your prior conversation. So how do you get to meet REAL girls on these sites?They're called deai sakura. They tell you everything you want to hear, but when it comes time to meet there are a million excuses why they can't. There are real people behind it, but they are employed by the site. They're never going to meet you, it's their job to get as much money out of you in the mailing system as possible. Many sakura are even guys. Most of these deai sites are total scams. I don't know if there are any legit sites left but for the most part the deai scene is a minefield.

Deltron
01-07-12, 15:42
I used to live in Japan and didn't have much luck with the ladies. I got a bit, and it's left me craving more. I've always had a penchant for Japanese and Taiwanese girls, but of course, they love tall handsome White guys, and being a short ugly Black guy hasn't helped me at all in life. I'm going to be passing through Osaka again sometime this year as part of my trip to Asia, and I'd like to get my freak on with Japanese girls. Any suggestions? For the record, I'm not interested in any women except for Japanese (Taiwanese when I go to Taiwan) , and I harbor no attraction to thai, filipinas, etc.

I know that Japanese society, especially women, are not fond of Blacks (especially since I'm not tall and into hip-hop) , so I'd like to know if I should just abandon hope or if there are sure-fire places that I can go to get what I desire.Being a black man with many Japanese women I'm currently seeing on one level or another, I am going to have to disagree with you to an extent. While it is a fact that if you're a white guy (a tall one at that) you certainly will have MORE options in regards to Japanese women, you certainly will have more than a few options just knowing how to talk to women (in general). One thing I will say. START LEARNING THE LANGUAGE. That'll get you over many barriers you'd otherwise have difficulty with. While some will say,"it's better not to speak Japanese even if you can" from experience it's better to lead them in with your Japanese speaking abilities, but then once you're in your groove feel free to keep your convos with the girl you're with in English if she's more into practicing English.

So to answer your question, you shouldn't "abandon hope" in regards to smashing numerous Japanese chicks (although, if you are "ugly" as you stated. Work on your confidence. It's not so much about what others see, it's what you feel and project about yourself). I'm no Denzel, but I do a decent job making women believe I am.

Anarkhia
01-13-12, 13:23
Have been reading the posts about deai sites, and while AK is right its a minefield, I have to agree with ZCorps that happymail is legitimate. ZCorps gave an excellent intro a while back, here I will just give my opinion on using happymail, sorry if some info might be double. I have been using it regularly to meet girls, and have never been scammed or anything. Its a good place to meet amateur girls who just happen to be in need of a little cash. Basically you can select your location and age range and you can meet plenty of girls, they are real and have no interest in letting you pay for the site. ZCorps said it is best to use it to live out some fetish and that is probably true too. Plenty of posts offering bareback, sex in toilet / car / park, SM. 3somes, orgies, pregnant women and what not. But I've been using it for just straight p4p, plenty of that too. Signing up for happymail is a little tedious, and you have to provide age-verification, and your phonenumber. However, I can assure you they don't misuse it. You can choose whether to use it with PC or your phone, or both. Once you're in you can view and reply to the posts in any section, with these sections being of most interest to our kind of people: &20170; &12377; &12368; (Right now) &12288; &12450; &12480; &12523; &12488; &65286; H (adult) &12288; &12450; &12502; &12494; &12540; &12510; &12523; (abnormal). All these are p4p posts by amateurs. There is a normal dating section too but thats beyond our scope here. On any given day (in a big city like Osaka) you can see new posts by girls coming in constantly. Basically they are virtual streetwalkers. In their profiles the girls give rather detailed info on their physique, incl. Breast-size etc, and sometimes include a photo (if not I ask them for one, which often they give). My experience is that they are relatively honest in this, since when you meet them and don't like them you can just walk off, something thats harder to do using deriheru and such. When contacting a girl ask for her &26465; &20214; &65288; jouken: conditions=price). I don't reveal I am a foreigner until we've agreed on the place, time and price, as by that time she is less likely to opt out. Saying it in your first email will often lead to her ignoring you (since she might be getting a lot of emails) , partly because she might be afraid you don't know the way it is done. I try to get their keitai-email before we meet, but some will insist on using only email via happymail. Its a world in itself and I have to say it can get a little addictive. And also, it is not free, you use up points by emailing them and you have to buy new ones using for example C-check (you can get this at any combini). So it costs a little but then it is not a scam and this site will actually enable you to meet many women quickly. And it sure widens our options. As for the service, they are not pros so its total hit and miss. A lot of these girls are lifeless in bed (but then I always search in the 18-19 age category, that might have something to do with it) , but still I have had some very good experiences too and since many of these girls don't do this often it does have a different feel to it then other p4p options. Oh and I forgot: obviously you need enough Japanese so you can navigate the site and do the email exchange. But don't be intimidated, if your Japanese is basic you can work your way through with a dictionary rather well while you email these girls, and its great for your vocabulary as many words are used that you won't learn in a classroom! So is it worth the hassle? Yes, but just. And its kind of fun, so harm in giving it a try.

Just my POV.

Hatguy
01-14-12, 03:57
Thanks for your reports on this happymail thing. I'm going to give it a shot. Hatguy

Anarkhia
01-14-12, 07:08
Thanks for your reports on this happymail thing. I'm going to give it a shot. HatguyYou're welcome! I have benefitted from this site in many ways and especially from your posts, it was about time I got my ass in gear to contribute what I can. Will post more later if I think I things to add. Sorry the Japanese I wrote in the post got messed up, basically I referred to the 3 categories "ima sugu" (right now)"adaruto&H" (adult&H) and "abunomaru" (abnormal, covering anything from SM to orgies to shemales). When writing ask for her "jouken" (conditions). Have fun and please keep sharing your stories!

Zcorps
01-14-12, 16:04
In response to Anarkhia, I generally agree with him for the most part. I do prefer deriheru, but maybe you guys will like this better. Just a note you don't always have to ask her for her conditions, and in fact you might be better off stating the price up front. Some girls will ignore your messages unless you give them a price. Others have their prices already set, an they'll usually let you know. Also, most girls usually have a meeting location in mind, but you should have one in mind just in case.

Just some general tips.

* You can haggle.

* Put the money on the table and leave it there until you leave. This is generally a good p4p rule.

* If you shower, do it together. I've had one girl take the money and leave while I was showering.

* Like Anarkhia said, mention that you're a foreigner towards the end. I usually mention it after the price has been agreed upon.

* You CAN walk away if you don't like her when you meet her.

* When talking about prices you first put either betsu or comi. Meaning the hotel fee. Betsu means you pay it, comi means the girl pays it. Then just put the price. 1.5 2 2. 5 etc. That's in man BTW.

* If the girls asking price is low (around 1 man for FS) that usually means these girls are train wrecks. Best to avoid.

* If you want to LFK or DFK, mention that. Many girls aren't willing to do that.

Also. check out wakuwaku 550909.com some girls post on both but there are many girls who will post on one or the other

LordMD
01-18-12, 05:36
OK, so I started messing around with Happymail. Pretty fun, but those points go by fast when you keep looking at profiles! Anyway, a question for those of you with experience. When it says "*rikiri de aeru kata", what does that mean exactly? I speak Japanese but can't for the life of me figure that one out. Any help appreciated!


In response to Anarkhia, I generally agree with him for the most part. I do prefer deriheru, but maybe you guys will like this better. Just a note you don't always have to ask her for her conditions, and in fact you might be better off stating the price up front. Some girls will ignore your messages unless you give them a price. Others have their prices already set, an they'll usually let you know. Also, most girls usually have a meeting location in mind, but you should have one in mind just in case.

Just some general tips.

* You can haggle.

* Put the money on the table and leave it there until you leave. This is generally a good p4p rule.

* If you shower, do it together. I've had one girl take the money and leave while I was showering.

* Like Anarkhia said, mention that you're a foreigner towards the end. I usually mention it after the price has been agreed upon.

* You CAN walk away if you don't like her when you meet her.

* When talking about prices you first put either betsu or comi. Meaning the hotel fee. Betsu means you pay it, comi means the girl pays it. Then just put the price. 1.5 2 2. 5 etc. That's in man BTW.

* If the girls asking price is low (around 1 man for FS) that usually means these girls are train wrecks. Best to avoid.

* If you want to LFK or DFK, mention that. Many girls aren't willing to do that.

Also. Check out wakuwaku 550909. Com some girls post on both but there are many girls who will post on one or the other

Metabo
01-19-12, 12:52
Anyone been to a good BJ house recently? I was frequenting Queen in Tennoji for a while and got set on Okusama in Nanba till Hatguy had some trouble there. Anyone been to Okusama recently? Or care to reccommend a different spot? Just looking for some quick head

KccKcc
01-19-12, 13:55
OK, so I started messing around with Happymail. Pretty fun, but those points go by fast when you keep looking at profiles! Anyway, a question for those of you with experience. When it says "*rikiri de aeru kata", what does that mean exactly? I speak Japanese but can't for the life of me figure that one out. Any help appreciated!I think the first kanji is censored, but it's not in the 550909 site. I see the phrase "&21106; &12426; &20999; &12426;" pop up all the time there, which I think is the uncensored version. Anyway, a translate gives me the word "businesslike" for the term. I'm guessing it means either the interaction should be business like OR they prefer business men.

I've been trying these sites with mediocre Japanese for a while! Thanks for the advice below, but I've had no luck. Can any of you help me write out some standard messages that I should be sending? Just so I can copy and paste. Much appreciated!

Anarkhia
01-20-12, 02:39
OK, so I started messing around with Happymail. Pretty fun, but those points go by fast when you keep looking at profiles! Anyway, a question for those of you with experience. When it says "*rikiri de aeru kata", what does that mean exactly? I speak Japanese but can't for the life of me figure that one out. Any help appreciated!The phrase is "warikiri de aeru kata", literally: people who can meet in a businesslike way. Or meet for business. In other words; not for romantic walks on the beach, but for p4p! Please keep sharing your experiences.

Anarkhia
01-20-12, 08:55
I think the first kanji is censored, but it's not in the 550909 site. I see the phrase "&21106; &12426; &20999; &12426;" pop up all the time there, which I think is the uncensored version. Anyway, a translate gives me the word "businesslike" for the term. I'm guessing it means either the interaction should be business like OR they prefer business men.

I've been trying these sites with mediocre Japanese for a while! Thanks for the advice below, but I've had no luck. Can any of you help me write out some standard messages that I should be sending? Just so I can copy and paste. Much appreciated!OK. Unfortunately this site doesn't seem to stomach the use of Japanese too well, so I'll give you some hints using romaji, hope you can figure it out. When I reply to an add I keep it simple and straightforward: Konnichi wa! Kore kara aitai desu. (I want to meet asap) Dou desu ka? (how about it) Jouken oshiete kudasai ne. (please tell me your conditions, ie how much?) Or, as ZCorps pointed out earlier, name your price here already: Betsu 1. 5 wa ikaga desuka? (how about 1. 5excl. (or whatever your offer is. Betsu (tokubetsu no betsu) means that this price doesn't include the hotel fee) Yoroshiku onegai shimasu.

I think this is a simple but effective reply, showing that you are serious. Many girls have told me they get a lot of weird emails so keeping it professional will go a long way. So hopefully you get a reply to that. She might write some random stuff thanking you or get straight to business: kibo wa betsu 2 gomu tsuki desu. (Or something: my wish is 2 man excl, with condom) Namba de machiawase onegai shimasu. (Please meet me in namba (or wherever) Nanji kara aemasu ka? (From what time can you meet?) Then you reply: Henji arigatou gozaimashita! (thanks you the reply) Daijoubu desu! (or start to haggle about the price) , and when you are ok to meet. Once all is settled break the news: Tokorode, boku ha gaikokujin desu. Daijoubu desu ka? (I aint from around here)

Some more pointers:

She might suggest a 2nd, higher, price for bareback: Gomu nashi de / nama de. If not than she probably won't be into it.

At any time you can ask for a photo: Shashin wo misete kudasatte ii desu ka? Some will and some won't send you one.

Many will write something like: "Jishin arimasu!" (I am self-confident) , meaning they are good-looking, according to, uhh themselves. Surprisingly often they will also say it if they are not, or if they are "futsu", normal. Again, they know that if they lie we can just walk off when we meet them.

"Debu" or pocchari in a self-description means they are fat.

And beware: some people post: nyu-ha-fu in katakana. Took me a while to find out what this was. It means "new half", meaning; we want to stay the fuck away.

A girl is highly unlikely to be willing to meet you anywhere else than where she has suggested;"I don't have feet" one of them once replied to me.

Sometimes they will give a very specific location where to meet. Use google maps.

If your succes rate is low, bear in mind there is quite a lot of competition (even more now) out there that might be out-bidding you. Especially at the end of the month as people get their paychecks. Also weekends and national holidays are hard days to score. So weekdays are best, and there are still plenty of girls that post on a random day. But basically if I set my mind on it, I can usually arrange a meeting any given day (and I am very choosy when it comes to age and looks) , but you might have to email quite a number of girls before finding your match. Last thing: please customize the standard email a bit, otherwise the ladies will think there are a bunch of foreigners out there who are sharing info on how to use deai sites!

KccKcc
01-21-12, 03:59
OK. Unfortunately this site doesn't seem to stomach the use of Japanese too well, so I'll give you some hints using romaji, hope you can figure it out. When I reply to an add I keep it simple and straightforward: Konnichi wa! Kore kara aitai desu. (I want to meet asap) Dou desu ka? (how about it) Jouken oshiete kudasai ne. (please tell me your conditions, ie how much?) Or, as ZCorps pointed out earlier, name your price here already: Betsu 1. 5 wa ikaga desuka? (how about 1. 5excl. (or whatever your offer is. Betsu (tokubetsu no betsu) means that this price doesn't include the hotel fee) Yoroshiku onegai shimasu.

I think this is a simple but effective reply, showing that you are serious. Many girls have told me they get a lot of weird emails so keeping it professional will go a long way. So hopefully you get a reply to that. She might write some random stuff thanking you or get straight to business: kibo wa betsu 2 gomu tsuki desu. (Or something: my wish is 2 man excl, with condom) Namba de machiawase onegai shimasu. (Please meet me in namba (or wherever) Nanji kara aemasu ka? (From what time can you meet?) Then you reply: Henji arigatou gozaimashita! (thanks you the reply) Daijoubu desu! (or start to haggle about the price) , and when you are ok to meet. Once all is settled break the news: Tokorode, boku ha gaikokujin desu. Daijoubu desu ka? (I aint from around here)

Some more pointers:

She might suggest a 2nd, higher, price for bareback: Gomu nashi de / nama de. If not than she probably won't be into it.

At any time you can ask for a photo: Shashin wo misete kudasatte ii desu ka? Some will and some won't send you one.

Many will write something like: "Jishin arimasu!" (I am self-confident) , meaning they are good-looking, according to, uhh themselves. Surprisingly often they will also say it if they are not, or if they are "futsu", normal. Again, they know that if they lie we can just walk off when we meet them.

"Debu" or pocchari in a self-description means they are fat.

And beware: some people post: nyu-ha-fu in katakana. Took me a while to find out what this was. It means "new half", meaning; we want to stay the fuck away.

A girl is highly unlikely to be willing to meet you anywhere else than where she has suggested;"I don't have feet" one of them once replied to me.

Sometimes they will give a very specific location where to meet. Use google maps.

If your succes rate is low, bear in mind there is quite a lot of competition (even more now) out there that might be out-bidding you. Especially at the end of the month as people get their paychecks. Also weekends and national holidays are hard days to score. So weekdays are best, and there are still plenty of girls that post on a random day. But basically if I set my mind on it, I can usually arrange a meeting any given day (and I am very choosy when it comes to age and looks) , but you might have to email quite a number of girls before finding your match. Last thing: please customize the standard email a bit, otherwise the ladies will think there are a bunch of foreigners out there who are sharing info on how to use deai sites!Thank you! I'll definitely report on my experiences when I can. One question though: Could you elaborate on the nyu-ah-fu part? Does that mean they are not interested? Or are they posting that they're a tranny?

Hatguy
01-21-12, 14:53
Hatguy decided to have a go at this method to see what it would turn out like and the result was fair. Yes I was disappointed with the girls looks but attitude was good enough. I got her email and may see her or one of her bustier friends again. No I just had one. She brought up the introduction thing and even made a note about my preferences. Anyway so you join their site called waku waku mail. Then if you give I'd by email they give you an exerts x number of points. I did that. Then looked around the multitude of listings. One caught my eye because she was close to where I live but just far away enough. If you know what I mean. She was super late arriving at meeting spot and I was just about to leave. We went to a cheap love hotel where I gave her agreed 1. 5k in advance by accident. How? I put it under a menu when she was showering. She inadvertently found it when she grabbed the free food menu. Anyway, good two shots ensued.

I'm not making mistakes of giving out names or other info. Everyone can use japanese to find their own tasty older MILF to fuck. Better than this one I got even. This form of the game requires japanese language ability. There are no shortcuts. And no I will not translate for someone either! Anyone who posts some shit for others to translate for them can get fucked in my book. If you cant do it on your own you have no business trying!

I got burned by someone here and want to share my experiences but my way.

Anarkhia
01-21-12, 16:23
Thank you! I'll definitely report on my experiences when I can. One question though: Could you elaborate on the nyu-ah-fu part? Does that mean they are not interested? Or are they posting that they're a tranny?Nyu-ha-fu / new-half: yes; tranny, shemale whatever the preferred nomenclature is these days. Anyway, not so many of them around but some that post incessantly so just ignore them. Unless its your cup of tea, to each his own.

Hatguy: ok glad to see it working out for you. It seriously pisses me off someone has abused your info, after all that you've shared, you are right to share with caution from now. I don't think any of the guys were asking anyone to translate for them though, just some help to get started. My Japanese is fluent but it took me a while to get the hang of the lingo that is used by these girls, full of slang and uncouth words and what not.

Hatguy
01-22-12, 05:06
Hatguy: ok glad to see it working out for you. It seriously pisses me off someone has abused your info, after all that you've shared, you are right to share with caution from now. I don't think any of the guys were asking anyone to translate for them though, just some help to get started. My Japanese is fluent but it took me a while to get the hang of the lingo that is used by these girls, full of slang and uncouth words and what not.Yeah I know. Was a bit drunk last night. Sorry if I offended anyone. Goddam it's expensive here for even an ugly chick. I know for myself at least I won't be able to keep up the habit very long.

Did anyone else see the new route jetstar is starting? Osaka to Manila 4 days a week. Seems to be very reasonable fares in my book. For the cost of two goes, maybe three with girls you can get over to the phi. Some day when I have time Ill get over there myself. Hatguy

Bob Davis
01-24-12, 19:49
Just wanted to mention to you guys that Tobita is still going strong, despite the recent droughts elsewhere.

It's rubbish that gaijin can't get laid down there. I have never been turned down. I'm not great in Japanese and usually pretty pissed when I show up, but always seem to get in. Not bragging here. Merely making a case that one can indulge quite easily should one want to.

Fight-oPretty spot on. I've gone twice, and both times 2-3 shops were willing to play. Bummer it's so far away though (Kobe here). Has anybody been to the Hanshin Amagasaki area recently? Or know an area similar to Tennoji that's closer?

KccKcc
02-01-12, 14:09
@BobDavis I was at Amagasaki last year. Just passed by it; it seemed popular. I remember another member posting a link to a list of RLDs including the Amagasaki one. There's also a lot of past posts about an area between Amagasaki and Tennoji. I forget the name. Was it Kujo? I think so, but I don't know the directions there.

@Hatguy was your drunken report about someone you got off the mailing site?

@Anarkhia thanks again! One last question (sorry) : When it says "car inside" in Kanji, does that mean you have to pick her up in a car? Or she'll pick you up in hers? Heck, I wouldn't mind just doing it in the car!

Hatguy
02-02-12, 00:07
@BobDavis I was at Amagasaki last year. Just passed by it; it seemed popular. I remember another member posting a link to a list of RLDs including the Amagasaki one. There's also a lot of past posts about an area between Amagasaki and Tennoji. I forget the name. Was it Kujo? I think so, but I don't know the directions there.

@Hatguy was your drunken report about someone you got off the mailing site?

@Anarkhia thanks again! One last question (sorry) : When it says "car inside" in Kanji, does that mean you have to pick her up in a car? Or she'll pick you up in hers? Heck, I wouldn't mind just doing it in the car!That one was off waku waku mail. As I said before I thought I would give it a go.

Not a question for me but I read it as she can do it in the car. I guess some guys don't want to pay for hotel. LOL. If you got one of those big SUV things I guess you could park up. I wouldn't though. Don't want them knowing about me as it is.

Anarkhia
02-04-12, 08:43
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@Anarkhia thanks again! One last question (sorry) : When it says "car inside" in Kanji, does that mean you have to pick her up in a car? Or she'll pick you up in hers? Heck, I wouldn't mind just doing it in the car![/QUOTE]Indeed it means you pick her up in your car, not vice versa. Its a good way to save money I suppose, as you don't pay for hotel and also the play should be cheaper, like 1man for FS. Sometimes girls will suggest this as it takes less time. Also some girls suggesting to meet in a car will sometimes only want to do fera (fellatio) , but if this is so they will say it clearly in their first post. Some eccentric girls even want to meet only for tetoki (HJ) or even kuni (cunnilingus) or ona-mi (girl watches guy masturbate. Guy pays for this. Japan. Seriously.) Hatguy has a fair point in that you make yourself somewhat vulnerable meeting in your car, but if you're ok with that its fun for a change. For this kind of stuff these sites are great, like if you want to do it in a toilet, or in some random place outdoors.

Have fun!

Anarkhia
02-04-12, 09:27
Sorry if I bore you guys, but I can go on about this happymail thing forever. I thought I share some tips on how to get freebies through happymail (thats the only deai site I use by the way, takes up enough of my time!). So there are two categories: adult (all p4p stuff) and pure (everything else). Pure has such subcategories as email friends, deto meto (looking for a date) , koibito (looking for love) and so on. Now its easy to get in touch with many girls this way. Typically none are looking for p4p, they are all in the other part of the site. Many available girls one would think, but its not as good as it sounds. Many girls will be superficially interested in exchanging emails with you, but this is just a way to alleviate their boredom and since they have the attention span of a toddler this seldom leads to anything. Even after emailing for quite a while they will still refuse to give their real email address or back off if you suggest a date. Often they will say: nakayoshitara iidesu yo (after we know each other better it ok) , but they just get a kick out of getting emails from random guys, especially foreigners. Waste of time and money (and remember these girls use the site for free!).

Luckily, through trial and error Anarkhia has devised a way to beat the system. The majority of women don't use the site to actually meet strangers, but one group does: married women. You can go to "purofu kensaku" (profile search) and make your search as detailed as you want, according to age and body-type, etc (also when you want to search the p4p categories of course). But the important part is half-way down: at kekkon-reki choose kikon (married) and you will see all the married women in your area that use the site. Especially in the older age categories like 30s onward there are many in the kansai area. I got several freebies this way, one of whom a very hot 25 year old who got married with children much too young. Quite a few women will give their email-addresses quite quickly (if not you might be wasting your time) , and obviously they use the site because they are looking for a hook-up. If takes some wooing of course, but a bit of patience can yield good results. Remember many Japanese men are seldom at home and generally not interested in sleeping with their wives, so these women are pretty desperate, and they often see western men as gentlemen who take an interest in them and their needs. I say its up to us gentlemen to step up and do the right thing.

Anarkhia
02-04-12, 10:59
@BobDavis I was at Amagasaki last year. Just passed by it; it seemed popular. I remember another member posting a link to a list of RLDs including the Amagasaki one. There's also a lot of past posts about an area between Amagasaki and Tennoji. I forget the name. Was it Kujo? I think so, but I don't know the directions there.

@Hatguy was your drunken report about someone you got off the mailing site?

@Anarkhia thanks again! One last question (sorry) : When it says "car inside" in Kanji, does that mean you have to pick her up in a car? Or she'll pick you up in hers? Heck, I wouldn't mind just doing it in the car!Oh sorry looks like I didn't read your post carefully. It means doing it in the car. Sometimes they will say,"kuruma aru kata" or something, than she might mean picking her up, if she doesn't live close to any hotels. But if she says Sha nai (in car) it means action will take place there.

Bob Davis
02-04-12, 12:10
@BobDavis I was at Amagasaki last year. Just passed by it; it seemed popular. I remember another member posting a link to a list of RLDs including the Amagasaki one. There's also a lot of past posts about an area between Amagasaki and Tennoji. I forget the name. Was it Kujo? I think so, but I don't know the directions there.

@Hatguy was your drunken report about someone you got off the mailing site?

@Anarkhia thanks again! One last question (sorry) : When it says "car inside" in Kanji, does that mean you have to pick her up in a car? Or she'll pick you up in hers? Heck, I wouldn't mind just doing it in the car!Strolled through Amagasaki last week and finally found it. One street only (that I can find) at the end of the shotengai. Walked by twice, smiled, said Hello, and got 1/10 hit, so 10, LOL. But she looked like she had be doing the job since the Meiji Restoration, so I passed. Will try again in 2 weeks.

Hatguy
02-05-12, 03:24
Sorry if I bore you guys, but I can go on about this happymail thing forever. I thought I share some tips on how to get freebies through happymail (thats the only deai site I use by the way, takes up enough of my time!). So there are two categories: adult (all p4p stuff) and pure (everything else). Pure has such subcategories as email friends, deto meto (looking for a date) , koibito (looking for love) and so on. Now its easy to get in touch with many girls this way. Typically none are looking for p4p, they are all in the other part of the site. Many available girls one would think, but its not as good as it sounds. Many girls will be superficially interested in exchanging emails with you, but this is just a way to alleviate their boredom and since they have the attention span of a toddler this seldom leads to anything. Even after emailing for quite a while they will still refuse to give their real email address or back off if you suggest a date. Often they will say: nakayoshitara iidesu yo (after we know each other better it ok) , but they just get a kick out of getting emails from random guys, especially foreigners. Waste of time and money (and remember these girls use the site for free!).

Luckily, through trial and error Anarkhia has devised a way to beat the system. The majority of women don't use the site to actually meet strangers, but one group does: married women. You can go to "purofu kensaku" (profile search) and make your search as detailed as you want, according to age and body-type, etc (also when you want to search the p4p categories of course). But the important part is half-way down: at kekkon-reki choose kikon (married) and you will see all the married women in your area that use the site. Especially in the older age categories like 30s onward there are many in the kansai area. I got several freebies this way, one of whom a very hot 25 year old who got married with children much too young. Quite a few women will give their email-addresses quite quickly (if not you might be wasting your time) , and obviously they use the site because they are looking for a hook-up. If takes some wooing of course, but a bit of patience can yield good results. Remember many Japanese men are seldom at home and generally not interested in sleeping with their wives, so these women are pretty desperate, and they often see western men as gentlemen who take an interest in them and their needs. I say its up to us gentlemen to step up and do the right thing.This is very good advice. Thanks for sharing. Even though it will mean a bunch of guys will now do exactly this!

Anarkhia
02-05-12, 13:47
This is very good advice. Thanks for sharing. Even though it will mean a bunch of guys will now do exactly this!Glad to be of service. Took me a while to find the loophole, happy to save you guys that time. Yeah maybe the happymail ladies will be bombarded with attention from western gentlemen now, a win-win situation for all involved I say. Be reminded that these women won't admit openly what they are looking for as that would not be ladylike, so suggesting a coffee / dinner date (preferably the former, we're talking freebies here after all) is the way to go. Usually I'd ask if she'd like to practise her eigo, which is a no-brainer because there isn't a woman in this country who doesn't want to practise her eigo. This will make it psychologically easier for her to agree to meet you, and once you meet them the eigo stuff can quickly evolve towards what chikai no hoteru is in English.

Anarkhia
02-05-12, 17:53
This is very good advice. Thanks for sharing. Even though it will mean a bunch of guys will now do exactly this!Oh yeah one more thing. Say right away that you're a foreigner. These women obviously get many emails from sleazy guys so you need something to get you apart from the crowd. This will do it. For the p4p girls the foreignness is an unwelcome distraction from what they are interested in (money) , but for the other women it will give us extra points.

Lion
02-06-12, 02:37
So there are two categories: adult (all p4p stuff) and pure (everything else). Pure has such subcategories as email friends, deto meto (looking for a date) , koibito (looking for love) and so on.

At kekkon-reki choose kikon (married) and you will see all the married women in your area that use the site.Great info, thank you.

I looked for your subcategories but did not see Adult.

I saw mail, mailfriend, datemate, lover, pure.

Are the subcategories only things that come up once you have joined?

Anarkhia
02-06-12, 02:51
Great info, thank you.

I looked for your subcategories but did not see Adult.

I saw mail, mailfriend, datemate, lover, pure.

Are the subcategories only things that come up once you have joined?Hmm I can't quite remember, it might be so that the adaruto option (with subcategories ima sugu, abnormal etc) is only there once you've signed up. Must be since right now its sitting squarely in the middle of my screen when I open happymail, can't miss it. I hope it works out! From today I'll be travelling and offline for a while by the way.

Naniwan
02-06-12, 07:07
This is very good advice. Thanks for sharing. Even though it will mean a bunch of guys will now do exactly this!You're never going to let it go eh, Hatguy? That's what this forum is for, sharing. It's unfortunate that some douche screwed up the BJ place for you, but seriously, get over it.

Hatguy
02-06-12, 09:17
You're never going to let it go eh, Hatguy? That's what this forum is for, sharing. It's unfortunate that some douche screwed up the BJ place for you, but seriously, get over it.I am over it. Hence back posting a bit here and there. Thanks for reminding me though. LOL.

Anarkhia
02-15-12, 06:17
Anarkhia is back. Thought I'd share some more, this time about my experience with threesomes on happymail and how it is a good bargain. You will notice quite a few posts saying "ninin kumi" (pair of 2) , or just 3p, sometimes written sanpi in hiragana. Now if you meet one girl, the price might be 1. 5man to 2man (I'd never pay more than that). Logic would have it that meeting two girls would be twice that price or thereabouts. Not so. I noticed quickly how very easy it is to haggle with a duo. For some reason many Japanese men are not into 3p that much so its not so easy for these girls to hook-up, and their asking price does down very quickly. Often as low as 2man, in fact I've never paid more for 3p. This effectively means getting two for the price of one. Thats quite a bargain in my opinion. Why do these girls settle for 1man each if by meeting a guy alone they can get double? I asked, and it has to do with feeling safer meeting a stranger for p4p with a friend, even if that means getting significantly less money. Also. 2 girls are often hanging out and not having money to have some fun they come up with this idea, wanting money quickly which again leads to the price going down easily. This works best with young girls (in the 18-25 categories) , and beware that they will want to meet asap since they are usually together at the time of posting and are bored because they don't have money to do anything. Not sure if this info is of use to anyone, but in my opinion, as I am near broke and need to watch my wallet carefully, getting two girls for the price of one is a fine deal.

Hatguy
02-16-12, 08:44
Anarkhia is back. Thought I'd share some more, this time about my experience with threesomes on happymail and how it is a good bargain. You will notice quite a few posts saying "ninin kumi" (pair of 2) , or just 3p, sometimes written sanpi in hiragana. Now if you meet one girl, the price might be 1. 5man to 2man (I'd never pay more than that). Logic would have it that meeting two girls would be twice that price or thereabouts. Not so. I noticed quickly how very easy it is to haggle with a duo. For some reason many Japanese men are not into 3p that much so its not so easy for these girls to hook-up, and their asking price does down very quickly. Often as low as 2man, in fact I've never paid more for 3p. This effectively means getting two for the price of one. Thats quite a bargain in my opinion. Why do these girls settle for 1man each if by meeting a guy alone they can get double? I asked, and it has to do with feeling safer meeting a stranger for p4p with a friend, even if that means getting significantly less money. Also. 2 girls are often hanging out and not having money to have some fun they come up with this idea, wanting money quickly which again leads to the price going down easily. This works best with young girls (in the 18-25 categories) , and beware that they will want to meet asap since they are usually together at the time of posting and are bored because they don't have money to do anything. Not sure if this info is of use to anyone, but in my opinion, as I am near broke and need to watch my wallet carefully, getting two girls for the price of one is a fine deal.Now that is great footwork right there! So they might go with gaijin if they feel safer? Pairs works huh? Good report!

Azure Knight
02-16-12, 12:44
Interesting! Do you find these off the adult board or the other general meet-up board?

Anarkhia
02-16-12, 13:26
Now that is great footwork right there! So they might go with gaijin if they feel safer? Pairs works huh? Good report!Thanks, I like to explore uncharted territory. Yeah these girls seldom have a problem with you being a foreigner. This generally goes for most of the happymail p4p girls, they tend to judge people not on the colour of their skin but on the content of their wallet.

Anarkhia
02-16-12, 13:51
Interesting! Do you find these off the adult board or the other general meet-up board?Assuming you mean girls offering 3p, that will always be in the adult section. In any of the subcategories ima sugu / adaruto&H / abnormal. Usually in ima sugu because as I said they want to meet asap. The abnormal section is good for posts concerning sex parties / orgies etc involving more than 2 girls (check esp. On weekends, national holidays). All of this is p4p, without exception (if anyone offers free sex there, you are being scammed). In the "pure" section its all other stuff (so never p4p) , as I said before, this is where the Desperate Housewives reside.

Just to show you guys an example: if you check today (2/16) in the ima sugu category (Osaka area) at 19:44 a girl called Rii posted "kore kara 3p". In the post she says she is staying with a friend in a hotel in minami and inviting any guy to come over for a threesome. Usually they won't be in a hotel but in this case it seems it'll save you those costs as well. Further she decribes what they both look like, cup-size (C&H) and their age (22). At the bottom of the post you can always see the amount of people that have replied so far (good for knowing the amount of competition) and you can see so far no one has written to them (its 2 hours later as I write this). As I said there isn't a great demand for 3p among Japanese guys. I bet they can be had for 2man, easily. It will most probably be too late when any of you guys read this, but posts like this are frequent enough. Have fun!

(oh I just checked, at 21:44 there is another post for 3p, but these girls are older (possibly harder to haggle down the price). Anyway, check out these posts to get an idea)

Hatguy
02-17-12, 01:51
I just saw one over there on waku waku mail which said something about Thai girls. God I hope they reply!

Did anyone see the fracas over on the Bangkok thread about Japanese v Thai? I don't want to bring that over here but for me Thai girls win hands down! Does anyone have any info on Thai girls here in Osaka? If you do please pm me as I'm suffering withdrawl symptoms. PUN INTENDED!

Anarkhia
02-17-12, 03:53
I just saw one over there on waku waku mail which said something about Thai girls. God I hope they reply!

Did anyone see the fracas over on the Bangkok thread about Japanese v Thai? I don't want to bring that over here but for me Thai girls win hands down! Does anyone have any info on Thai girls here in Osaka? If you do please pm me as I'm suffering withdrawl symptoms. PUN INTENDED!Thais on these sites, thats a first for me, nice one! Some "halves" here and there (Jap-Filipina usually) , but this sounds more like it. Did they reply?

Dreams
02-17-12, 08:50
I just saw one over there on waku waku mail which said something about Thai girls. God I hope they reply!

Did anyone see the fracas over on the Bangkok thread about Japanese v Thai? I don't want to bring that over here but for me Thai girls win hands down! Does anyone have any info on Thai girls here in Osaka? If you do please pm me as I'm suffering withdrawl symptoms. PUN INTENDED!Plese, please, don't bring such debate here. In the BKK thread there is no more info on the BKK scene, just absurd and useless debate on how big Japanese penis is etc.

Thanks to you and manu other, the Japan threads are very informtive and non confrontational. Let it stay so!

Azure Knight
02-18-12, 09:45
Assuming you mean girls offering 3p, that will always be in the adult section.Thanks for the tip! Haven't had a 3P in while, I'll have to give this a try at some point.

Although I'm not sure what your percentage is, but I've had a lot of girls turn me down once they knew I was foreign. The negotiation goes smoothly, then at the end I say I'm foreign and I either get no reply or "gomen nasai". I guess it's just a matter of getting the girls who don't mind.

Azure Knight
02-18-12, 09:47
And I'm sure this is a long shot, but do any of you guys know any bi non-Japanese girls here in Kansai? Western is preferred but at the very least she can't be Japanese. If you can shoot one my way I'd find a way to return the favor.

Anarkhia
02-18-12, 10:53
Thanks for the tip! Haven't had a 3P in while, I'll have to give this a try at some point.

Although I'm not sure what your percentage is, but I've had a lot of girls turn me down once they knew I was foreign. The negotiation goes smoothly, then at the end I say I'm foreign and I either get no reply or "gomen nasai". I guess it's just a matter of getting the girls who don't mind.Actually this surprises me. It hardly ever happened to me a girl backed out at that stage. I've asked the girls about their vetting process and generally they tend to get a bunch of replies after a post but many of them turn out to be not so serious, they then select the ones that seem to the point and will then go for the highest bidding / most reliable one. Higest bidding is obvious, reliable in this case means that they will actually show up at the agreed time / place. It is very common for be stood up, seems some guys get a kick out of this so many girls write "don't lie" and stuff in their posts. Now the point I was getting to is that when they have selected the final candidates American Idol style (but without us knowing there are competitors) and they have to choose, the foreigner thing might make for a losing ticket. Still, this seldom happened to me though. One explanation might be that you've tried on a busy day (weekend / nat. Holidays) , I try to avoid those as the competition drives up the price (prefer not to pay more than 1. 5man, plenty of girls will settle for that) and the foreigner thing might possibly then come into play. Another explanation is that I exclusively go for girls younger than 25, if your target age is higher it might just be the older girls are more careful / conservative / anti-foreign. In that way all my advice might be somewhat coloured. I think these younger girls tend to be rather reckless and money-obsessed and generally couldn't care less from who or how they get it. Yet another explanation; if I remember correctly, you are in Kyoto. Me too, and my general experience is that the ratio girl:mongerer is not as good as Osaka (more competition again). To be blunt: in Osaka there is a lot more poverty, hence more girls willing to p4p. To meet the type of girl I want (and I am very choosy) , I would often expect to have to travel to Osaka. One idea; how about not saying you're a foreigner until minutes before the meeting, or not at all? At that time its too late for her to go for any of the other candidates.

How is everyone else's progress on this front going?

Anarkhia
02-18-12, 15:26
And I'm sure this is a long shot, but do any of you guys know any bi non-Japanese girls here in Kansai? Western is preferred but at the very least she can't be Japanese. If you can shoot one my way I'd find a way to return the favor.Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but there is an American girl who posts on happymail sometimes, coincidentally today (2/18) as well. Just go to the ima sugu section (osaka) , scroll down until you are at 23:15 o'clock (on 2/18) , thats her post. Looks like she wants to meet up tonight, but if you email her later she'll probably reply as well.

BigManJapan
02-19-12, 00:26
Actually this surprises me. It hardly ever happened to me a girl backed out at that stage. I've asked the girls about their vetting process and generally they tend to get a bunch of replies after a post but many of them turn out to be not so serious, they then select the ones that seem to the point and will then go for the highest bidding / most reliable one. Higest bidding is obvious, reliable in this case means that they will actually show up at the agreed time / place. It is very common for be stood up, seems some guys get a kick out of this so many girls write "don't lie" and stuff in their posts. Now the point I was getting to is that when they have selected the final candidates American Idol style (but without us knowing there are competitors) and they have to choose, the foreigner thing might make for a losing ticket. Still, this seldom happened to me though. One explanation might be that you've tried on a busy day (weekend / nat. Holidays) , I try to avoid those as the competition drives up the price (prefer not to pay more than 1. 5man, plenty of girls will settle for that) and the foreigner thing might possibly then come into play. Another explanation is that I exclusively go for girls younger than 25, if your target age is higher it might just be the older girls are more careful / conservative / anti-foreign. In that way all my advice might be somewhat coloured. I think these younger girls tend to be rather reckless and money-obsessed and generally couldn't care less from who or how they get it. Yet another explanation; if I remember correctly, you are in Kyoto. Me too, and my general experience is that the ratio girl:mongerer is not as good as Osaka (more competition again). To be blunt: in Osaka there is a lot more poverty, hence more girls willing to p4p. To meet the type of girl I want (and I am very choosy) , I would often expect to have to travel to Osaka. One idea; how about not saying you're a foreigner until minutes before the meeting, or not at all? At that time its too late for her to go for any of the other candidates.

How is everyone else's progress on this front going?Just wanted to chime in a big huge thank you to you guys who posted about happymail! I've had luck on there and posted about it last month on the Yokohama board. I didn't tell the girl I was a gaijin and just discribed my clothes. I wore a hoodie and she really didn't see me until she approached. Haha she was surprised but I was her first American and she spoke no English so it was a fun time! I'm still in contact with her to have another playtime but our schedules haven't matched. I just had a killer idea, I've always wanted to go to onsen with a p4p girl and have her serve me sake and suck me off. What are the odds do you think that a happymail girl would be willing to do that if I pay for the onsen?

Anarkhia
02-19-12, 03:26
Just wanted to chime in a big huge thank you to you guys who posted about happymail! I've had luck on there and posted about it last month on the Yokohama board. I didn't tell the girl I was a gaijin and just discribed my clothes. I wore a hoodie and she really didn't see me until she approached. Haha she was surprised but I was her first American and she spoke no English so it was a fun time! I'm still in contact with her to have another playtime but our schedules haven't matched. I just had a killer idea, I've always wanted to go to onsen with a p4p girl and have her serve me sake and suck me off. What are the odds do you think that a happymail girl would be willing to do that if I pay for the onsen?I dig your fantasy hehe. My philosophy is that anything is possible if you go about it the right way. As I wrote earlier, most girls will insist on meeting very close to where they are, and refuse to move their ass no matter what. So this is a challenge. But there are some girls posting who look for a "baba", sugar daddy, meaning meeting regularly and stuff. Once you establish a relationship like that she will probably agree to do more extravagant things. With a girl you meet for the first time I think your chance would be zero. But for example that Yokohama chick sounds very promising, most girls arent really interested in keeping in touch as they regard us all as interchangeable. Also, if she agrees to go somewhere unusual with you, which likely will be time-consuming, you will have to pay her a lot. On top of the onsen fee obviously. Keep us updated!

Hatguy
02-19-12, 08:10
Anarkiha.

You are becoming quite the GURU in my mind on this other way of doing things. I have not partaken since a few weeks ago due to Karaoke fun but surely will again soon. Its been quite a while but I'm going to go back to Club Queen in Tennoji again soon. See how that goes for 2012. Its quite good that you get all you can drink and a BJ. Ages ago when I was there a large girl was almost letting me fuck her right then and there. I like one there that is about 30 and thin but big tits.

Meiji
02-19-12, 13:31
I was in Kansai for a few weekends recently and decided to see what's what. I use Google Maps and my smartphone a lot when traveling. GPS is a lifesaver, especially in Japan.

AM

I saw a few of the Asian Mystique girls (Miki and Satsuki to be specific). The agency is reliable as reported, and the girls are attractive and fun. My only suggestion is if you meeting them at Umeda Station (for a nearby love hotel) and if you aren't familiar with the area, please be aware that Osaka / Umeda Station (since they are essentially the same station) is probably the biggest train station in Japan by area, so either get to the station with plenty of time to familiarize yourself or ask to meet elsewhere that's easily found on Google Maps.

Tobita

I went down to Tobita- note that Dobutsuenmae is the closest subway station (it's the same line that goes from Shin-Osaka / Osaka through Shinsaibashi and Namba). On Google Maps there appears to be an Imafune station that's closer, but I think that's a trolley line of some sort- I didn't bother trying to figure it out since it's not that long of a walk. The walking mall between the station and Tobita isn't that exciting. I'd almost call it the Japanese version of a flea market, and not the typical walking mall you see in more popular areas of Japanese cities. Tobita is in a pretty low-income area of Osaka, which from what I've read is why the hobbying area is still open.

I was happy that even on a winter afternoon there was plenty of talent available. I'd say about half to two-thirds of the doors were open, some of those were empty (girls busy) , and of the rest I was getting an 80% call rate or so- either getting a 'Douzo' or getting a big smile from the girl. There wasn't many guys around- some younger guys walking, and a few guys in cars cruising the streets slowly checking out the action. I wasn't super-impressed with the looks of many of the girls- they weren't unattractive, but I generally go for the cute and skinny ones. The first one of those I passed, I was just rounding the corner and saw her face for a half-second, but after walking a few more blocks to see what else was available, I decided to go back for a second look.

They seemed to have no problems with me coming in even before I tried out some of my Japanese on them- the girl in question, Saki, was very cute, skinny, with maybe A-cups. She reminded me a LOT of the JAV actress Yui Komine. Saki had a cuter face, but not as good of a body. I took 30min for Y2. 1man. I'm pretty sure the time starts when she comes in the final time, not from when you first go upstairs, because although she made short work of me after a covered BJ and several positions, we still had a ton of time to attempt to talk. She spoke zero English, but my Japanese was enough to talk to her a bit. She said that there's some foreigners that come by, but lots of Japanese. Message me if you want specifics on where her shop is.

I don't know if I'd return, given that I only saw one or two girls that struck my (narrow) fancy, and the price even for Japan is kinda pricey. If you want a quicky thats pretty much a sure thing, or are interested in trying out one of the last red light districts in the developed world, Tobita is worth a try.

Deriheru

I also tried out my Japanese skills on the good folks at www.a-maihime.com. The good news is that they were fine with foreigners, although I think there were one or two caveats that I didn't fully catch. The bad news is that my Japanese wasn't good enough to pass muster with them. After asking them to repeat something a few times, I did catch the word 'muri', which is Japanese for 'impossible'. I was polite as I could be and apologized at the end. It's too bad because their site has a bunch of very attractive women even with photoshopping taken into account. It's a good motivation to work harder on my Japanese skills for sure!

Deltron
02-19-12, 14:25
All the chat here about "happy mail" got me curious so I've been testing it out as of late. Got 2 hits so far, but it really seems 50/50 in terms of availability. I had one chick quote me 500 bucks for a pop. If only she could hear the laughter from my end. Anyone else get that kind of nonsense?

But otherwise, I can moreorless confirm that this site is legit. You need to be able to speak Japanese, but otherwise this is a decent little alternative to the usual methods.

BigManJapan
02-19-12, 23:01
I dig your fantasy hehe. My philosophy is that anything is possible if you go about it the right way. As I wrote earlier, most girls will insist on meeting very close to where they are, and refuse to move their ass no matter what. So this is a challenge. But there are some girls posting who look for a "baba", sugar daddy, meaning meeting regularly and stuff. Once you establish a relationship like that she will probably agree to do more extravagant things. With a girl you meet for the first time I think your chance would be zero. But for example that Yokohama chick sounds very promising, most girls arent really interested in keeping in touch as they regard us all as interchangeable. Also, if she agrees to go somewhere unusual with you, which likely will be time-consuming, you will have to pay her a lot. On top of the onsen fee obviously. Keep us updated!Got a promising lead yesterday from happymail! I sent out several messages to girls in my area and didn't get any good responses so I ended up using a delivery health. Anyways around 2am a girl from happymail mails me back with just the English words: "are you a foreigner?" I told her yes and she mailed back she is a university student with her major as English and she loves English! She's 20 and is tan and slim looks like a 9 if her pic is accurate. She's about 4 stations from me so looks like we're going to meet tonight! I might try to work down the price in exchange for homework help haha! I'll post an update on how it goes!

Anarkhia
02-20-12, 02:06
All the chat here about "happy mail" got me curious so I've been testing it out as of late. Got 2 hits so far, but it really seems 50/50 in terms of availability. I had one chick quote me 500 bucks for a pop. If only she could hear the laughter from my end. Anyone else get that kind of nonsense?

But otherwise, I can moreorless confirm that this site is legit. You need to be able to speak Japanese, but otherwise this is a decent little alternative to the usual methods.Sure there many weird or just clueless girls around on the site, as can be expected since they use the site for free. But 500 bucks, who did she think she was, Kate Middleton? Anyway, there is an infinite pool of girls out there so I just weed out the bad ones, not worth giving them a thought. I do expect to scan quite a few profiles and send out many emails before I get a good match (my type / affordable / still available / not mad) , this means using quite a few points, but thats part of the deal.

Good luck!

Anarkhia
02-20-12, 02:11
Got a promising lead yesterday from happymail! I sent out several messages to girls in my area and didn't get any good responses so I ended up using a delivery health. Anyways around 2am a girl from happymail mails me back with just the English words: "are you a foreigner?" I told her yes and she mailed back she is a university student with her major as English and she loves English! She's 20 and is tan and slim looks like a 9 if her pic is accurate. She's about 4 stations from me so looks like we're going to meet tonight! I might try to work down the price in exchange for homework help haha! I'll post an update on how it goes!Okay, sounds promising! Not to put a downer on the party, but it happened to me a few times they got all excited about me being a foreigner, giving me their emails and even sending pics and stuff. But then, from the next day I didn't hear from them again, seems like they woke up and decided they'd lost all interest. As I said earlier these girls have an extremely short attention span and the novelty of a gaijin fades quickly. However, since this girl is actually an English major at Uni, it sounds like it might lead to something, I certainly hope so! Keep us posted!

Hatguy
02-20-12, 02:55
Got a promising lead yesterday from happymail! I sent out several messages to girls in my area and didn't get any good responses so I ended up using a delivery health. Anyways around 2am a girl from happymail mails me back with just the English words: "are you a foreigner?" I told her yes and she mailed back she is a university student with her major as English and she loves English! She's 20 and is tan and slim looks like a 9 if her pic is accurate. She's about 4 stations from me so looks like we're going to meet tonight! I might try to work down the price in exchange for homework help haha! I'll post an update on how it goes!I hate you BMJ! It seems that all the fun stuff happens up in Tokyo and around you! Haha.

Lately I have been Sakura-ed to death. These people will send you a stock standard email to start with. No matter what you reply their response will be "YOKATTA DESU." After which I block their email address. For me it is the tell tale sign of a Sakura.

Oh and Deltron...500 bucks for a pop. That sounds like AM prices.

An update on that Philippina chick from last year: It seems she totally lost the plot and went back to the Philippines. I have not heard from her since the last time she made me wait 30 mins despite our huge fights about her being late.

Lion
02-20-12, 03:10
AM

I saw a few of the Asian Mystique girls (Miki and Satsuki to be specific). The agency is reliable as reported, and the girls are attractive and fun. My only suggestion is if you meeting them at Umeda Station (for a nearby love hotel) and if you aren't familiar with the area, please be aware that Osaka / Umeda Station (since they are essentially the same station) is probably the biggest train station in Japan by area, so either get to the station with plenty of time to familiarize yourself or ask to meet elsewhere that's easily found on Google Maps.

Tobita

I don't know if I'd return, given that I only saw one or two girls that struck my (narrow) fancy, and the price even for Japan is kinda pricey. If you want a quicky thats pretty much a sure thing, or are interested in trying out one of the last red light districts in the developed world, Tobita is worth a try.

Deriheru

I also tried out my Japanese skills on the good folks at.

www.a-maihime.com.

The good news is that they were fine with foreigners, Thanks for the reports.

AM: Please give us a bit of a review of the girls. Very few AM related posts of late, especially regarding Kansai girls.

Tobita: Your report sums it up. Some decent lookers, but a bit pricey. Reliable FS of course.

DH: The site you found is actually KDH (Korean) , which is usually open to foreigners with decent Japanese. However the picts are unlikely to be real. No two girls have the same background, which is a dead giveaway.

Meiji
02-20-12, 07:47
Thanks for the reports.

AM: Please give us a bit of a review of the girls. Very few AM related posts of late, especially regarding Kansai girls.I saw Satsuki at a love hotel (my first love hotel experience). She's not on the AM site anymore, and she gave me no indication of her imminent retirement, so she might be back. She's tiny as advertised, maybe a few pounds more than the pics showed. Fairly cute face. She's very GFE, but somewhat passive. She speaks next to no English, so most of our time outside playtime was spent with me practicing my Japanese.

Fairly standard play (I didn't order any cosplay, etc. Maybe next time). Helped each other off with the clothes, showered together, play, cleaned up, took a bath together. Got to love those love hotel tubs, played a bit more, cleaned up, paid up at the front of the hotel, left.

I saw Miki at my hotel- she was wearing the traditional 'young hottie' winter outfit of a winter coat, scarf, and then tall boots, short denim shorts, and black hose. It gave me the opportunity to ask, while I certainly appreciate the effort to look dead-sexy even in the winter, whether women that dress like that are cold and why they do it. She said that it's all about fashion. She's an attractive woman. Likely older than advertised, but still turns heads. Toned body. Her breasts are fake, but just slightly accentuated and not ridiculous like you see on many women in the states. Her English is pretty good actually, at least for light conversation. Same sort of play- she's fun to kiss and enjoys it. We didn't get to shower together (hotel's shower was too small).

There's a few other girls at AM that I'd like to try, mainly in Tokyo, but once my Japanese level is up far enough I probably won't frequent them much if at all. Their prices are too high compared to places that don't rely on non-Japanese speakers, and their price structure encourages 2 hour appointments, and I'd rather not have to make that much of a time/$$$ commitment for a girl I haven't seen before.

For those that speak no Japanese and want "delivery" in Osaka (or don't want to trek down to Tobita, etc) , AM is really your only choice. And it's not a bad choice: they are much more consistent than any other agency I've worked with (although admittedly it's my first in Japan, so I don't have much to compare to here) , and the girls are friendly and talented.

Hatguy
02-20-12, 15:00
So I felt especially horny today and decided to treat myself as I had been very good. And also one girl that came back on the hatguy radar is now officially off it. Meh! Win some lose some!

So a good friend and member of this board told me to contact a certain girl off waku site. I did and for 1. 5 plus hotel of 1690 yen we had a relaxing time then a pretty good go. She wasnt really a foreplay girl. But with me licking her boobs (ample but a bit droopy) She managed to get quite wet. Then on to cowgirl. I like to move them slightly off the position so I can get better penetration and just thrust away. Tmi! Sorry. We finished and then she said that's it. I asked about seconds and her response was pay another 1man and you can go for it.

For that I could have two girls in Tobita almost. LOL.

The girl was good. The money was sorta right. I wish it was 5000 yen a throw though. Or like on soi 6 in Pattaya. 2800 including short time room. LOL

LoveShibuyaGirls
02-20-12, 22:18
Re: Tobita.

21000 for 30 minutes and CBJ? Fuck!


I was in Kansai for a few weekends recently and decided to see what's what. I use Google Maps and my smartphone a lot when traveling. GPS is a lifesaver, especially in Japan.

AM

I saw a few of the Asian Mystique girls (Miki and Satsuki to be specific). The agency is reliable as reported, and the girls are attractive and fun. My only suggestion is if you meeting them at Umeda Station (for a nearby love hotel) and if you aren't familiar with the area, please be aware that Osaka / Umeda Station (since they are essentially the same station) is probably the biggest train station in Japan by area, so either get to the station with plenty of time to familiarize yourself or ask to meet elsewhere that's easily found on Google Maps.

Tobita

I went down to Tobita- note that Dobutsuenmae is the closest subway station (it's the same line that goes from Shin-Osaka / Osaka through Shinsaibashi and Namba). On Google Maps there appears to be an Imafune station that's closer, but I think that's a trolley line of some sort- I didn't bother trying to figure it out since it's not that long of a walk. The walking mall between the station and Tobita isn't that exciting. I'd almost call it the Japanese version of a flea market, and not the typical walking mall you see in more popular areas of Japanese cities. Tobita is in a pretty low-income area of Osaka, which from what I've read is why the hobbying area is still open.

I was happy that even on a winter afternoon there was plenty of talent available. I'd say about half to two-thirds of the doors were open, some of those were empty (girls busy) , and of the rest I was getting an 80% call rate or so- either getting a 'Douzo' or getting a big smile from the girl. There wasn't many guys around- some younger guys walking, and a few guys in cars cruising the streets slowly checking out the action. I wasn't super-impressed with the looks of many of the girls- they weren't unattractive, but I generally go for the cute and skinny ones. The first one of those I passed, I was just rounding the corner and saw her face for a half-second, but after walking a few more blocks to see what else was available, I decided to go back for a second look.

They seemed to have no problems with me coming in even before I tried out some of my Japanese on them- the girl in question, Saki, was very cute, skinny, with maybe A-cups. She reminded me a LOT of the JAV actress Yui Komine. Saki had a cuter face, but not as good of a body. I took 30min for Y2. 1man. I'm pretty sure the time starts when she comes in the final time, not from when you first go upstairs, because although she made short work of me after a covered BJ and several positions, we still had a ton of time to attempt to talk. She spoke zero English, but my Japanese was enough to talk to her a bit. She said that there's some foreigners that come by, but lots of Japanese. Message me if you want specifics on where her shop is.

I don't know if I'd return, given that I only saw one or two girls that struck my (narrow) fancy, and the price even for Japan is kinda pricey. If you want a quicky thats pretty much a sure thing, or are interested in trying out one of the last red light districts in the developed world, Tobita is worth a try.

Deriheru

I also tried out my Japanese skills on the good folks at.

www.a-maihime.com.

The good news is that they were fine with foreigners, although I think there were one or two caveats that I didn't fully catch. The bad news is that my Japanese wasn't good enough to pass muster with them. After asking them to repeat something a few times, I did catch the word 'muri', which is Japanese for 'impossible'. I was polite as I could be and apologized at the end. It's too bad because their site has a bunch of very attractive women even with photoshopping taken into account. It's a good motivation to work harder on my Japanese skills for sure!

Anarkhia
02-21-12, 08:24
So I felt especially horny today and decided to treat myself as I had been very good. And also one girl that came back on the hatguy radar is now officially off it. Meh! Win some lose some!

So a good friend and member of this board told me to contact a certain girl off waku site. I did and for 1. 5 plus hotel of 1690 yen we had a relaxing time then a pretty good go. She wasnt really a foreplay girl. But with me licking her boobs (ample but a bit droopy) She managed to get quite wet. Then on to cowgirl. I like to move them slightly off the position so I can get better penetration and just thrust away. Tmi! Sorry. We finished and then she said that's it. I asked about seconds and her response was pay another 1man and you can go for it.

For that I could have two girls in Tobita almost. LOL.

The girl was good. The money was sorta right. I wish it was 5000 yen a throw though. Or like on soi 6 in Pattaya. 2800 including short time room. LOLGlad it worked out in the end. Yeah they all seem to be hell-bent against a second round, their attitude isn't anything to write home about. Some advertise though with "nikai sen" (two times war, which is an interesting way of putting it) , meaning you can help yourself to seconds for the same price.

Azure Knight
02-21-12, 15:23
Re: Tobita.

21000 for 30 minutes and CBJ? Fuck!I don't think Tobita is that much more expensive, all things considered. The cheapest you're going to find any outcall option will be 1. 5man. That usually gets you about an hour. But of that time the girl will waste at least a good 15-20 minutes beforehand talking and with the shower. So in reality you're really getting closer to 35-40 minutes of playtime. Then factor in the hotel cost. Around 4 or 5k and you can hit 2man easy. That's about the same as Tobita, just with a shower and more talk time included. Plus with Tobita you can actually see the girl beforehand, which is worth a few extra k in my opinion. Also, my time is limited so I appreciate the in and out smoothness of Tobita. And not every outcall girls offers multiple pops anyway. If you have your own place and don't have to factor in hotel costs DH might be cheaper in the long run but if you include the hotel I don't think Tobita is that much more expensive. So Tobita for me is one of the better deals in this country honestly.

I've used AM when in Tokyo. A bit on the pricey end but you know exactly what you're getting which is really nice. I've also lucked out in picking some awesome girls with them. I know they have Kansai girls but I really wish Osaka had more of a AM-like presence. I've often entertained the idea of starting up something like that myself but it probably entails more commitment than I am able to give it.

Metabo
02-22-12, 09:25
Well said, AK. There's nothing like in and out at Tobita!


I don't think Tobita is that much more expensive, all things considered. The cheapest you're going to find any outcall option will be 1. 5man. That usually gets you about an hour. But of that time the girl will waste at least a good 15-20 minutes beforehand talking and with the shower. So in reality you're really getting closer to 35-40 minutes of playtime. Then factor in the hotel cost. Around 4 or 5k and you can hit 2man easy. That's about the same as Tobita, just with a shower and more talk time included. Plus with Tobita you can actually see the girl beforehand, which is worth a few extra k in my opinion. Also, my time is limited so I appreciate the in and out smoothness of Tobita. And not every outcall girls offers multiple pops anyway. If you have your own place and don't have to factor in hotel costs DH might be cheaper in the long run but if you include the hotel I don't think Tobita is that much more expensive. So Tobita for me is one of the better deals in this country honestly.

I've used AM when in Tokyo. A bit on the pricey end but you know exactly what you're getting which is really nice. I've also lucked out in picking some awesome girls with them. I know they have Kansai girls but I really wish Osaka had more of a AM-like presence. I've often entertained the idea of starting up something like that myself but it probably entails more commitment than I am able to give it.

R The Man
02-22-12, 10:26
hey guys, just arrived in osaka. i'm american born chinese, don't speak a word of japanese (only english) but have mongered all over the world. only staying a couple of days, want to go to tobita, but because of meetings i can only go tonight after 9 pm, or tomorrow afternoon before 4 pm.

any problems (e. g, danger) with going at night. sounds like a sketchy place. and, any action there during the day?

thanks. your speedy replies are appreciated.

r.

Meiji
02-22-12, 12:34
hey guys, just arrived in osaka. i'm american born chinese, don't speak a word of japanese (only english) but have mongered all over the world. only staying a couple of days, want to go to tobita, but because of meetings i can only go tonight after 9 pm, or tomorrow afternoon before 4 pm.

any problems (e. g, danger) with going at night. sounds like a sketchy place. and, any action there during the day?

thanks. your speedy replies are appreciated.

r.i don't think you are going to face any real danger in osaka, even at night, as long as you keep your wits about you. it'll probably be busier there at night (and possibly less chance of getting service / your pick of the hotties) , but probably not as many places open during the day.

my visit (covered in my last report) was at about 3 or 4pm, so they are definitely up and running in the afternoons. if you haven't been to japan before, i've been told by asians who don't speak the language that japanese people get a little weird when they realize you don't speak japanese, so be expecting that. make sure to smile and say something like 'sumimasen, nihongo o hanasemasen' maybe, and read some of the other reports for other things that you can say.

R The Man
02-22-12, 16:35
Thanks Meiji, in the end I didn't get going until 10:30pm, so decided to try Club Queen in Tennoji instead. Seemed safer. The reports and directions from fellow mongers were very helpful, but I found a "new" route that might be helpful to others. I took the JR to Tennoji, and because it was pouring rain, decided to try heading underground to Kinetsu to stay drier. It worked out great. Follow the signs to Kinetsu station, going underground, follow the giant Kinetsu arrow on a pillar and turn right, then when you get to Kinetsu store, keep going past to the left, you'll see the Pronto Caffe down to your right when you make the turn. Go past and up the stairs to the street exit. That puts you 50m straight down the alley, then Club Queen's sign can be easily seen in the first lane to the right. Barely got wet from the exit.

Also, it was definitely no problem speaking only english. There is a sign with the rates. I took the lowest. 30 min for 7500. I was the only guy there, and luckily, I got the slim girl, couldn't figure out her name. I think she is pretty old, but who can tell with the darkness. What I could tell is that she gave a fantastic BBBJ, just the way I like it, with some hand action. She's got tits like mosquito bites, but she was friendly and had smooth skin. Nothing like having a beer while a girl sucks you off in a booth! She finished me up and kept milking me until I was more than done, then carefully cleaned me up. Another gent came in while I was finishing, but he was in a booth on the other side, so I couldn't see the girl that he had.

All in all, another interesting experience to add to my world mongering belt. Thanks guys!

R.

BigManJapan
02-23-12, 12:16
okay, sounds promising! not to put a downer on the party, but it happened to me a few times they got all excited about me being a foreigner, giving me their emails and even sending pics and stuff. but then, from the next day i didn't hear from them again, seems like they woke up and decided they'd lost all interest. as i said earlier these girls have an extremely short attention span and the novelty of a gaijin fades quickly. however, since this girl is actually an english major at uni, it sounds like it might lead to something, i certainly hope so! keep us posted!well here's the update! we've been sending messages over the past few days and turns out she actually lives at the very next station from me lol here's the bad part. turns out she has a japanese boyfriend and she said she was on happymail to "make friends" she was in the adult area and posted some adult theme stuff so i'm confused. we met up for lunch today and i was surprised she looks like utada hikaru with a slight tan and short blondish hair. she's like 5"0 she had on a nice grey sweater and holy cow if ever there was a time for the word sweater kittens this was it lol her titties are huge for her small frame! at one point she did that thing where they reach in and adjust their bra and i was straining for a peek, i mean reaching for a packet of ketchup! haha her english was good and we ate and talked and went for coffee. there was some light touching and her posture was always to be near me but with the whole boyfriend thing i wasn't sure how to approach it because she wants the 3 of us to go bowling sometime. should i write this one off or keep seeing her til she gets comfortable to come by my place and i can pull out the good ol massage oil?

Anarkhia
02-23-12, 13:43
well here's the update! we've been sending messages over the past few days and turns out she actually lives at the very next station from me lol here's the bad part. turns out she has a japanese boyfriend and she said she was on happymail to "make friends" she was in the adult area and posted some adult theme stuff so i'm confused. we met up for lunch today and i was surprised she looks like utada hikaru with a slight tan and short blondish hair. she's like 5"0 she had on a nice grey sweater and holy cow if ever there was a time for the word sweater kittens this was it lol her titties are huge for her small frame! at one point she did that thing where they reach in and adjust their bra and i was straining for a peek, i mean reaching for a packet of ketchup! haha her english was good and we ate and talked and went for coffee. there was some light touching and her posture was always to be near me but with the whole boyfriend thing i wasn't sure how to approach it because she wants the 3 of us to go bowling sometime. should i write this one off or keep seeing her til she gets comfortable to come by my place and i can pull out the good ol massage oil?wow that sure took an unexpected turn! no idea how to deal with this one. looking for friends in the adult section? i think not. i say go for the kill on the second date, if the bf wants to go bowling he can go by himself haha. but no way she will let you meet him if you met at the adult section of a dating site right? my experience with the housewife-freebies from the pure section is that they won't state too clearly they want sex, that wouldn't be ladylike. also, their intention is not to cheat on their husbands you see, they just want to go for a cup of coffee. if the guy then seduces her it was never her intention, so she isn't to blame. or something.

LoveShibuyaGirls
02-23-12, 22:55
I was more surprised that it is CBJ at that price.

With all of the GFE options in Japan at that price level, I cannot see paying for CBJ and rushed non GFE.

Next time I am in Osaka, I will check out Tobita and see how hot the girls are, but this does not seem like a good deal to me.


Well said, AK. There's nothing like in and out at Tobita!

BigManJapan
02-26-12, 15:40
Wow that sure took an unexpected turn! No idea how to deal with this one. Looking for friends in the adult section? I think not. I say go for the kill on the second date, if the bf wants to go bowling he can go by himself haha. But no way she will let you meet him if you met at the adult section of a dating site right? My experience with the housewife-freebies from the pure section is that they won't state too clearly they want sex, that wouldn't be ladylike. Also, their intention is not to cheat on their husbands you see, they just want to go for a cup of coffee. If the guy then seduces her it was never her intention, so she isn't to blame. Or something.Here's the latest: after we met up she just stopped mailing me for a couple days and now she mails me last night saying she was sad. I asked why and she said her boyfriend is fighting with her and she misses me. So she wants to meet up tomorrow and needs my "hugs" to make her feel better.

Deltron
02-26-12, 16:23
Here's the latest: after we met up she just stopped mailing me for a couple days and now she mails me last night saying she was sad. I asked why and she said her boyfriend is fighting with her and she misses me. So she wants to meet up tomorrow and needs my "hugs" to make her feel better.An update on this situation is needed. Don't shy away from the details, and best of luck. Your description of her body alone had me very interested in how this tale unfolds.

Meiji
02-26-12, 23:26
With all of the GFE options in Japan at that price level, I cannot see paying for CBJ and rushed non GFE.What Japanese girl GFE P4P options are there in Kansai for foreign visitors that speak no Japanese or very little Japanese? I mean, I'm not saying Tobita is a bargain by any means, but even AM starts at 28000 for an hour. Yes, once you have a decent Japanese language background and have a local phone number, you are good to go with a bunch of different places, but until then I think there's very few options. I knew the price was inflated going in. I tried Tobita because it's a bit of a hobby oddity than anything and because there's not a ton of options out there otherwise.

Hatguy
02-27-12, 00:24
What Japanese girl GFE P4P options are there in Kansai for foreign visitors that speak no Japanese or very little Japanese? I mean, I'm not saying Tobita is a bargain by any means, but even AM starts at 28000 for an hour. Yes, once you have a decent Japanese language background and have a local phone number, you are good to go with a bunch of different places, but until then I think there's very few options. I knew the price was inflated going in. I tried Tobita because it's a bit of a hobby oddity than anything and because there's not a ton of options out there otherwise.

I think you would do well to read AK's well thought out post from a few pages ago. I put it in the distinction thread as it's spot on when it comes to mongering in Japan.

Club Queen update.

Hope to hell you don't get the super thin chick there. Urgh! A body to avoid and just too quiet. And her face is not the best either. I think I might give the place a miss for a while now after that.

Meiji
02-27-12, 05:04
I think you would do well to read AK's well thought out post from a few pages ago. I put it in the distinction thread as it's spot on when it comes to mongering in Japan.I've read AK's fine piece a number of times, and it reinforces what I was saying that for visitors to Japan there's not much in the way of mongering outside AM, which is why I was puzzled by LSG's comment regarding "all of the GFE options" and was asking for clarification.

Hatguy
02-29-12, 00:13
Last night went with local guy to a topless place called Soemon. Had been there on and off for about 2 years. The first time they wouldn't allow me in until my Japanese friend vouched for me and I showed them my I'd as well. Fast forward to last night and one of the guys I have dealt with before there just told me straight. No foreigners. When asked why it was because a foreigner had done something bad there and they changed the policy.

It was a miracle that I was allowed in there from the start and I can only recall good fun there including the following: Dodging fat girls which occasionally came round to the table. Fingering one girl to orgasm and it staining my shirt. The beautiful Hawaiian J girl that was there one night only. The hot sweet kisses of one slim spinner.

I'm NOT mad that someone visited there and screwed it up for gaijin. It's just a shame that we can't go there now. Ill be trying again there in a few months.

Hatguy

Lion
02-29-12, 02:16
I've read AK's fine piece a number of times, and it reinforces what I was saying that for visitors to Japan there's not much in the way of mongering outside AM, which is why I was puzzled by LSG's comment regarding "all of the GFE options" and was asking for clarification.LSG was probably referring to the HH / DH scene, which is usually pretty GFE and can be reasonable (10, 000-20, 000 / hr plus hotel). Thing is 99% of them will require decent Japanese.

Klngal
03-03-12, 11:00
I am new to this forum but my certainly glad to learn from you lot about Osaka. I shall be in Osaka in April and would like to hear if there are any updates on Sakkutto Okusama. My check on its wedsite this morning showed that it had moved to Umeda. I am a Chinese from Hong Kong and wonder if I would be admitted to its shop.

LoveShibuyaGirls
03-04-12, 03:15
Sorry for the late reply. I don't read the Osaka board very often.

Yes, I was referring to DH. It can be anywhere from 20, 000. 40, 000, depending on how cheap of a hotel you can find, and whether or not your girl wants a tip for FS, but even if you get a completely non FS girl, you still get GFE (except FS) from a usually pretty cute young J chick. Or you can find DH shops that specialize in fat chicks, older ladies, or just about any other particular characteristic you are looking for.

Unfortunately, DH will require some Japanese. However, this Japanese is pretty basic, and you could probably learn it without too much effort.


LSG was probably referring to the HH / DH scene, which is usually pretty GFE and can be reasonable (10, 000-20, 000 / hr plus hotel). Thing is 99% of them will require decent Japanese.

Xslikx
03-04-12, 12:26
I was more surprised that it is CBJ at that price.

With all of the GFE options in Japan at that price level, I cannot see paying for CBJ and rushed non GFE.

Next time I am in Osaka, I will check out Tobita and see how hot the girls are, but this does not seem like a good deal to me.I live in Tokyo, but whenever I'm in Osaka I always pay a visit to Tobita and I regard it as one of the best options for P4P anywhere in Japan.

It really depends what you are there for. I don't go there to have a bubbly little conversation, or a GFE. For that, I would just take a college girl to dinner, or a freebie to a LH, or hang out with my girl. I go to Tobita to fuck a HOT J-girl. (I've seen a fair number of DH girls, and I've seen some real cuties, but never anyone who was actually hot, who you would approach in a club, or who would make your head turn on the street.) In Tobita, you can really check them out. You can chat with the mammas a bit and get a close look. Maybe make the girl break a smile, so you can see whether or not she has those fucked up J-girl teeth.

If you are friendly and smile, and chat with the mammas, you can have a lot of options. You can choose from around 10 cuties and 5 real hotties. If you want BBBJ, just ask the mammas if it's on offer. It often will be. You can ask them about kissing as well. You can find sweet. 20yo girls who are actually hot and will let you fuck them as hard as you want and be all sweet and bow and thank you after. If you want them to tell you they love big, hard foreigner cock, just ask, and they will provide.

If you want, you can have your dick in her mouth or her pussy in under a minute after she comes back from starting the clock (they lube up their pussies, so they're ready to go). Or you can make out for a while first. I walk around checking them all out, so I'm already hard by the time I'm in the room handing over the money. And the one that I choose, has seen me walking around for a long time before I decided.

I usually do two or three girls every time I go. I also like to see the looks on the faces of the girls I've already done when they realize I'm still cruising for pussy after I just fucked them. Mind you, they don't really care. They're just surprised. Their eyes will go all wide for a second, and then they'll break into a big grin.

BigManJapan
03-05-12, 12:26
Here's the latest: after we met up she just stopped mailing me for a couple days and now she mails me last night saying she was sad. I asked why and she said her boyfriend is fighting with her and she misses me. So she wants to meet up tomorrow and needs my "hugs" to make her feel better.Well I had to work that next day so didn't get to meet up with her but yesterday I was at her station so I mailed her. She said she was at a coffee shop studying so I went to join her. Her sister is the manager there and holy shit she's smoking hot and 19 and so very busty like her sister LOL good genes I tell you! So we were having coffee and some dude just walks in and hovers over us and they said a couple things in Japanese and then she said oh that's my boyfriend. I was like WTF LOL so I shook his hand and said whatsup and she looked at her boyfriend like get the fuck out of here and he just cowered off out the door! So then she says her girlfriend really wants to meet me and she said she's kawaii. So I'm like sure sounds good. We're going to go out the three of us this weekend.

Azure Knight
03-05-12, 17:36
Any recommendations for a cheap yet decent LH around the Osaka / Umeda area? I usually go to the Doyama area as there are a nice collection of hotels, but they're also quite pricey. At least 7-8k per trip. I'm looking for a place where I can get away with 5k or less that doesn't look like a hole in the wall.

Xslikx
03-06-12, 10:17
Any recommendations for a cheap yet decent LH around the Osaka / Umeda area? I usually go to the Doyama area as there are a nice collection of hotels, but they're also quite pricey. At least 7-8k per trip. I'm looking for a place where I can get away with 5k or less that doesn't look like a hole in the wall.If you zoom in on 34. 704205, 135. 503177, you'll see a hotel called Hotel Coco. The rooms are 3, 500 to 4, 900ish. It's nothing fancy, but it's clean and I've taken some high class girls there and never gotten any complaint.

LoveShibuyaGirls
03-06-12, 12:48
It true you don't get to many stunners in DH. I will check Tobita out the next time I'm in Osaka.


I live in Tokyo, but whenever I'm in Osaka I always pay a visit to Tobita and I regard it as one of the best options for P4P anywhere in Japan.

It really depends what you are there for. I don't go there to have a bubbly little conversation, or a GFE. For that, I would just take a college girl to dinner, or a freebie to a LH, or hang out with my girl. I go to Tobita to fuck a HOT J-girl. (I've seen a fair number of DH girls, and I've seen some real cuties, but never anyone who was actually hot, who you would approach in a club, or who would make your head turn on the street.) In Tobita, you can really check them out. You can chat with the mammas a bit and get a close look. Maybe make the girl break a smile, so you can see whether or not she has those fucked up J-girl teeth.

If you are friendly and smile, and chat with the mammas, you can have a lot of options. You can choose from around 10 cuties and 5 real hotties. If you want BBBJ, just ask the mammas if it's on offer. It often will be. You can ask them about kissing as well. You can find sweet. 20yo girls who are actually hot and will let you fuck them as hard as you want and be all sweet and bow and thank you after. If you want them to tell you they love big, hard foreigner cock, just ask, and they will provide.

If you want, you can have your dick in her mouth or her pussy in under a minute after she comes back from starting the clock (they lube up their pussies, so they're ready to go). Or you can make out for a while first. I walk around checking them all out, so I'm already hard by the time I'm in the room handing over the money. And the one that I choose, has seen me walking around for a long time before I decided.

I usually do two or three girls every time I go. I also like to see the looks on the faces of the girls I've already done when they realize I'm still cruising for pussy after I just fucked them. Mind you, they don't really care. They're just surprised. Their eyes will go all wide for a second, and then they'll break into a big grin.

Deltron
03-06-12, 17:58
Despite all the adventuring (although that has slowed down a bit recently) I have yet to go to Tobita. I'm debating between that or going with Happy route again. Can someone with experience recommend a Tobita spot that meet these three criteria:

A) Friendly to black customers.

B) Have attractive Japanese women.

C) Recommendation of a particular Japanese women with a really nice ass.

Much gratitude in advance

Azure Knight
03-06-12, 23:45
If you zoom in on 34. 704205, 135. 503177, you'll see a hotel called Hotel Coco. The rooms are 3, 500 to 4, 900ish. It's nothing fancy, but it's clean and I've taken some high class girls there and never gotten any complaint.Thanks! I'll check it out soon.

Azure Knight
03-07-12, 00:02
Despite all the adventuring (although that has slowed down a bit recently) I have yet to go to Tobita. I'm debating between that or going with Happy route again. Can someone with experience recommend a Tobita spot that meet these three criteria:

A) Friendly to black customers.

B) Have attractive Japanese women.

C) Recommendation of a particular Japanese women with a really nice ass.

Much gratitude in advanceThere are three spots off the top of my head that are foreign friendly. One right before you get into the heart of main street, one right in the center, and one on the parallel street to the left. Do not remember names, sorry.

Being black you have to make a bit of effort to be not intimidating but it can be done. You'll have mamasan who snort at you and girls who look the other way but forget them. Smile, be polite, show them you know what's up and there will be takers.

Attractive women? Holy shit yes. Main street is amazing. Model / actress quality. Go off on the side streets and the quality drops a bit but you can still find some decent girls. Definitely better than average DH. The best part is that they're sitting right there so you can physically check them out before making any commitments.

I only have one regular at Tobita now, girl named Ai at one of the shops in the middle of main street. Ass is just OK and fake tits but she is phenomenal. Without question one of my hottest lays. I saw her off duty at a club once, I went over and chatted with her for a while and I could feel the jealous gaze of every guy there.

Hatguy
03-07-12, 11:11
It's time for hatguy to stop his whining about shit and get on with it! One member pmed me and suggested trying some Chinese places. Last time my experience was mechanical and bad but I will give it another shot. The place I went to in Umeda may well be gone but I am going to go see if it is or not. To recap last time. I went there looking for another place and found this one. Probably early 20s Chinese girl that looked like barbie on steroids. Massive fake tits and fake attitude to boot. Everything was done off shop premises in an apartment with elaborate security. Girl was not good at japanese. She was like CUM ALREADY YOU WHITE GHOST. I guess I responded by finishing pretty quickly. Shame!

Anyway, this area needs another look. Izumi no hiroba. I need a FL from there to be able to say I did it!

By the way guys, Christine girls email bounces back. Any way of getting in touch with her?

H

LoveShibuyaGirls
03-08-12, 22:52
What is the polite way of asking the mama-san if BBBJ is OK? Kanojo ni kan shite nama fera ha daijoubu desu ka?


I live in Tokyo, but whenever I'm in Osaka I always pay a visit to Tobita and I regard it as one of the best options for P4P anywhere in Japan.

It really depends what you are there for. I don't go there to have a bubbly little conversation, or a GFE. For that, I would just take a college girl to dinner, or a freebie to a LH, or hang out with my girl. I go to Tobita to fuck a HOT J-girl. (I've seen a fair number of DH girls, and I've seen some real cuties, but never anyone who was actually hot, who you would approach in a club, or who would make your head turn on the street.) In Tobita, you can really check them out. You can chat with the mammas a bit and get a close look. Maybe make the girl break a smile, so you can see whether or not she has those fucked up J-girl teeth.

If you are friendly and smile, and chat with the mammas, you can have a lot of options. You can choose from around 10 cuties and 5 real hotties. If you want BBBJ, just ask the mammas if it's on offer. It often will be. You can ask them about kissing as well. You can find sweet. 20yo girls who are actually hot and will let you fuck them as hard as you want and be all sweet and bow and thank you after. If you want them to tell you they love big, hard foreigner cock, just ask, and they will provide.

If you want, you can have your dick in her mouth or her pussy in under a minute after she comes back from starting the clock (they lube up their pussies, so they're ready to go). Or you can make out for a while first. I walk around checking them all out, so I'm already hard by the time I'm in the room handing over the money. And the one that I choose, has seen me walking around for a long time before I decided.

I usually do two or three girls every time I go. I also like to see the looks on the faces of the girls I've already done when they realize I'm still cruising for pussy after I just fucked them. Mind you, they don't really care. They're just surprised. Their eyes will go all wide for a second, and then they'll break into a big grin.

Naniwan
03-09-12, 04:36
@LoveShibuyaGirls that sound find to me, very polite and grammatically correct! I would just say fera tte nama demo ii? But maybe that's a little rude?

Anyways, kicking around Namba on Saturday afternoon and got the twitch and just couldn't resist it this time (I haven't mongered for over a year). A friend of mine had recommended this place as Gaijiin-OK but I never verified it myself and didn't want to post until I tried.

http://club-amour.com/top.php

Club Amour is a "mat fashion health" setup and the rooms / hotel is actually in the building. I called beforehand to check if foreigners were OK but was told that none of the discount options would be available (which is annoying because they have the live "ima sugu onna" list so you can almost g'tee you get a looker for 10, 000).

Oh well, anyway, I chose the 50 min course; 16, 000 + 1, 000 panel. And chose Natsumi. http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=302# Pictures are accurate to the point that they're very good and making them look like models. She was nice though but heavy makeup, 'glamour' body and big tits.

The course was; shower + wash down and rubbing, into the bath with a kissing & BBBJ then she gets the mat ready for the nuru nuru massage. She was pretty good and them turned me over and finished me off with BBBJ and handjob. You can get as many shots in as you like but I settled for the 1.

A bit expensive but it was fun and may go again in the future. Easy to find, just walk past SPOTAKA coming from Namba, take left down a side street and keep going. You can see the sign easily (it's in English; CLUB AMOUR) and it has a glass front that leads into the reception. Oh, they give you a little number and you sit and wait while the girl gets ready then she meets you at the lift and go to the room with her.

GL HF!

Naniwan
03-09-12, 04:38
It's time for hatguy to stop his whining about shit and get on with it!Fuckin a, man! I wasn't trying to be rude with my previous post either BTW (though I guess I was). Chest bump & man hug? .

Naniwan
03-09-12, 04:46
Any recommendations for a cheap yet decent LH around the Osaka / Umeda area? I usually go to the Doyama area as there are a nice collection of hotels, but they're also quite pricey. At least 7-8k per trip. I'm looking for a place where I can get away with 5k or less that doesn't look like a hole in the wall.When I had a regular at Freajia I used to the choose the option of Hotel Grand Calm I think it was. It was a short walk (but far compared the other hotels I guess). I really don't know if it was included in the price much but it still only worked out to be. Check it out since it was a GREAT hotel:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.699659.135. 503594&spn=0. 001268, 0.00284&hnear=Japan, +%C5%8Csaka-fu, +%C5%8Csaka-shi, +Kita-ku, +D%C5%8Dyamach%C5%8D, +%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%91%E2%88%92%EF%BC%92&t=m&z=19&layer=see&cbll=34. 699659, 135. 503594&panoid=p5zg1cYO00X35VwarZJ90Q&cbp=12, 352. 61, 0.0. 93

Naked Gaijin
03-12-12, 07:20
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www.erotic-massage-japan.comI've never heard of this site before, but it looks great if it's legit. Any brothers that have tried it out and want to report? I may go ahead and TOFTT, but thought I'd check first to see if anyone's already tried it.

Grossman
03-12-12, 11:32
Hi kids.

I haven't posted anything for a long time because I've just been doing the same boring stuff (deriheru) as usual and that's not interesting for you guys.

But I have been interested in this happymail thing. Only problem is, I can't for the life of me figure out how to get registered on the site. I though my Japanese was good enough, but I just don't know what to do with this part:

#8050.

&12414; &12383; &12399;

186-0570-010-399.

&12414; &12383; &12399;

186-0120-975-555.

I'm supposed to pick one and call it? Any help would be very much appreciated guys. Thank you, I'm a bit of an old fart and certain aspects of technology have passed me by. I know this is some kind of phone number confirmation but I'm just not sure how it's supposed to work.

Sorry for being lame! But if some kind soul helps me out I promise to pass on any good intel once I start using the site.

Hatguy
03-12-12, 13:31
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Monge
03-13-12, 05:08
Hi Naniwan,

Thanks for the report, really got me eager to try it out. Do you think I'd be able to just turn up and get in with a basic level of Japanese?


Anyways, kicking around Namba on Saturday afternoon and got the twitch and just couldn't resist it this time (I haven't mongered for over a year). A friend of mine had recommended this place as Gaijiin-OK but I never verified it myself and didn't want to post until I tried.

http://club-amour.com/top.php

Club Amour is a "mat fashion health" setup and the rooms / hotel is actually in the building. I called beforehand to check if foreigners were OK but was told that none of the discount options would be available (which is annoying because they have the live "ima sugu onna" list so you can almost g'tee you get a looker for 10, 000).

Oh well, anyway, I chose the 50 min course; 16, 000 + 1, 000 panel. And chose Natsumi.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=302

# Pictures are accurate to the point that they're very good and making them look like models. She was nice though but heavy makeup, 'glamour' body and big tits.

The course was; shower + wash down and rubbing, into the bath with a kissing & BBBJ then she gets the mat ready for the nuru nuru massage. She was pretty good and them turned me over and finished me off with BBBJ and handjob. You can get as many shots in as you like but I settled for the 1.

A bit expensive but it was fun and may go again in the future. Easy to find, just walk past SPOTAKA coming from Namba, take left down a side street and keep going. You can see the sign easily (it's in English; CLUB AMOUR) and it has a glass front that leads into the reception. Oh, they give you a little number and you sit and wait while the girl gets ready then she meets you at the lift and go to the room with her.

GL HF!

Hatguy
03-13-12, 05:11
@LoveShibuyaGirls that sound find to me, very polite and grammatically correct! I would just say fera tte nama demo ii? But maybe that's a little rude?

Anyways, kicking around Namba on Saturday afternoon and got the twitch and just couldn't resist it this time (I haven't mongered for over a year). A friend of mine had recommended this place as Gaijiin-OK but I never verified it myself and didn't want to post until I tried.

http://club-amour.com/top.php

Club Amour is a "mat fashion health" setup and the rooms / hotel is actually in the building. I called beforehand to check if foreigners were OK but was told that none of the discount options would be available (which is annoying because they have the live "ima sugu onna" list so you can almost g'tee you get a looker for 10, 000).

Oh well, anyway, I chose the 50 min course; 16, 000 + 1, 000 panel. And chose Natsumi.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=302

# Pictures are accurate to the point that they're very good and making them look like models. She was nice though but heavy makeup, 'glamour' body and big tits.

The course was; shower + wash down and rubbing, into the bath with a kissing & BBBJ then she gets the mat ready for the nuru nuru massage. She was pretty good and them turned me over and finished me off with BBBJ and handjob. You can get as many shots in as you like but I settled for the 1.

A bit expensive but it was fun and may go again in the future. Easy to find, just walk past SPOTAKA coming from Namba, take left down a side street and keep going. You can see the sign easily (it's in English; CLUB AMOUR) and it has a glass front that leads into the reception. Oh, they give you a little number and you sit and wait while the girl gets ready then she meets you at the lift and go to the room with her.

GL HF!Good report you rude bastard! HAHA. Joking. The place across the road from that one sucked. Huge bait and switch place and the girl was boring.

This week I'm going to go down to see if the Umeda Chinese place AK recommended before is still around. Hopefully it is. Will report back.

Naked Gaijin
03-13-12, 16:23
I've never heard of this site before, but it looks great if it's legit. Any brothers that have tried it out and want to report? I may go ahead and TOFTT, but thought I'd check first to see if anyone's already tried it.Okay, curiosity got the best of me and I hoped the disclaimers on the site were just a cover story. Unfortunately, they're not. The site's services are basically exactly as advertised, meaning no FS, no BJ, and barely even touching. Of course, she touches plenty, but mostly rejects you touching her. Too bad since the girl was fairly attractive and had a very decent bod. And she was definitely Japanese.

Hatguy
03-13-12, 23:25
Okay, curiosity got the best of me and I hoped the disclaimers on the site were just a cover story. Unfortunately, they're not. The site's services are basically exactly as advertised, meaning no FS, no BJ, and barely even touching. Of course, she touches plenty, but mostly rejects you touching her. Too bad since the girl was fairly attractive and had a very decent bod. And she was definitely Japanese.I've never had a girlfriend who refused to let me touch her. Of course if one was on her period sure would let me nail her without a condom. Safe only because I wad her only partner. Both of us tested etc.

Just go to one of the many gaijin bars in town and look for the sluts. Its more fun and free. LOL.

Just got another test done myself. All clear of course. Same place in Namba.

Hatguy
03-17-12, 02:38
So last night I heard about this place near Izumi Fuchu station and went down there. To get there you should go to the station. Theres only one exit. Walk out and turn right. Theres a HEART IN convenience store there. Cross the road and walk straight past the police box Its about 60m past there on the right. Theres a pink sign and you go upstairs to the 2nd floor. Its called Kankoku ESTE ROYAL or something. Its a bit confusing as theres two places there in one kinda.

When I went in I saw their menu. The cheapest course was 5000 yen. For that you get jacked off. They are foreigners. If you speak at least minimum Japanese you will get served. The girl I got was pretty large but doable. I was offered FS for 15000 yen. Thought that was pretty good. I didn't have enough on me for that so I didn't. Just got the 5000 yen deal and she did a pretty good job. For that price you arent allowed to have her naked and can only touch the outside of her clothes. But anyway, for the price it was good.

Anarkhia
03-17-12, 06:25
Hi kids.

I haven't posted anything for a long time because I've just been doing the same boring stuff (deriheru) as usual and that's not interesting for you guys.

But I have been interested in this happymail thing. Only problem is, I can't for the life of me figure out how to get registered on the site. I though my Japanese was good enough, but I just don't know what to do with this part:

#8050.

&12414; &12383; &12399;

186-0570-010-399.

&12414; &12383; &12399;

186-0120-975-555.

I'm supposed to pick one and call it? Any help would be very much appreciated guys. Thank you, I'm a bit of an old fart and certain aspects of technology have passed me by. I know this is some kind of phone number confirmation but I'm just not sure how it's supposed to work.

Sorry for being lame! But if some kind soul helps me out I promise to pass on any good intel once I start using the site.I didn't see your post until now, sorry. Not sure if you've figured it out by now but here's an idea. I can't read the kanji you're using in that quote so don't really understand the problem, also its been a while since I did the sign up thing. Vaguely remember they confirm your phonenumber by calling you or sending you a see-mail. Anyway, the idea is to call their excellent customer service (0570-010199 or 090-79203497). They don't speak English but will help you out with the whole process while you are doing it in real time. They'll stay on the phone for as long as you need it. And perhaps, since you'll be using your own phone, they'll be able to take that as your confirmation and let you bypass the whole process. Hope it works out, there is a truckload of girls waiting for you on the site!

Anarkhia
03-17-12, 06:54
Something I have been wanting to share with you guys. A long time ago there was some talk here about streetwalkers around the fountain at Izumi no Hiroba. Conclusion was that the scene there is dead. Here is my experience. In the earlier posts it was said that apart from the fountain the place to look out for was the Picadilly Movie Theater (I think it might have closed now) outside the SE exit (14? 15?) and that girls would hang around there. So I was walking past there minding my own business (thinking the scene was dead) when I noticed a girl right outside that (closed down?) cinema. I wouldn't have noticed if it wasnt for the earlier post about exactly that place. She was talking to some ojisan who werent interested and then she headed back underground. Saw her trying to talk to more ojisan while walking, past the fountain. Then I approached her, asked her if she would come with me for enko. She said her time was limited and wanted 2man. I could haggle her down to 1man in no time, saying I wasnt going to pay 2man for a just 20/30 mins. It seemed to me she didn't do this often and just had some spare time and needed some money. For example she didn't know any hotels in the area and was bad at haggling. Anyway, a 1man well spent it was as she was a very hot 20 year old. She had one of those high-maintenance hostess hairdos, so she probably was a hostess. Now, the moral of story is that that cinema / fountain area must still be known as a meeting place of sorts, or was it coincidence I saw her in exactly that spot that was mentioned in the earlier posts. This was on a weekday around 8pm, some months ago. Did I just get lucky or is there still a small SW scene there? I think there is not much in terms of streetwalking because of the deai sites (plenty of posts there saying: Umeda, Now!) , but some girls might be looking for a very quick fix without time to go through the sites. They will also be very cheap as there is no competition that will go with them on such a short notice (waiting for a deai site hook-up takes much longer for them). One idea I am willing to explore is simply approaching girls around there that look the part and ask them if they feel like enko. Will be a good test for my courage as well!

Hatguy
03-17-12, 12:23
One other thing about the happy mail girls etc. I'm more than happy to share the emails of these girls with established members of ISG. Senior members and regular contributors. Basically these girls get so many emails that they won't know the difference. All that needs to be said is you want to meet for x amount and get why service. If the girl asks you where you got her email just say something to avoid the question or in a pinch say a friends friend gave it to you.

So pm me and Ill share mine.

1. Kinda fat girl but good attitude with semi decent bust in Tennoji.

2. Nice arse girl but sticks to one shot. No real tits. Sakai.

Grossman
03-18-12, 07:34
I didn't see your post until now, sorry. Not sure if you've figured it out by now but here's an idea. I can't read the kanji you're using in that quote so don't really understand the problem, also its been a while since I did the sign up thing. Vaguely remember they confirm your phonenumber by calling you or sending you a see-mail. Anyway, the idea is to call their excellent customer service (0570-010199 or 090-79203497). They don't speak English but will help you out with the whole process while you are doing it in real time. They'll stay on the phone for as long as you need it. And perhaps, since you'll be using your own phone, they'll be able to take that as your confirmation and let you bypass the whole process. Hope it works out, there is a truckload of girls waiting for you on the site!Thanks man, I did work it out eventually. I'm looking at the married women who want to fool around but not getting much traction at the moment. I might try the p4p section later if things don't pan out in the 'pure' section.

Lion
03-19-12, 01:50
Okay, curiosity got the best of me and I hoped the disclaimers on the site were just a cover story. Unfortunately, they're not. The site's services are basically exactly as advertised, meaning no FS, no BJ, and barely even touching. Of course, she touches plenty, but mostly rejects you touching her. Too bad since the girl was fairly attractive and had a very decent bod. And she was definitely Japanese.Http://www.erotic-massage-japan.com/top.php

There are a number of legit, erotic massage shops, but I think this is the only one that makes an effort to explain everything and market to foreigners.

As long as she was cute, skilled, and on time then you should have been disappointed.

17, 000/60min is a bit steep though. I think I paid 10, 000/60 for a similar shop in Namba. My shop had them in uniform though and and no body-to-body touching.

Grossman
03-19-12, 10:23
So anyway, after mailing about a dozen or so married women, and being shot down in flames each time (Grossman, you are so unreasonable wanting to meet up at an adult dating site where people are supposed to meet up! When will I ever learn.) I tried one of the p4p girls (the imasugu area of the site). It was yuna-san. Everything was going smoothly by text mail and I brought up that I was a gaijin and she was OK with that, and I get to the meeting place (5. 30pm near Big Camera Namba) where I get a message that because I'm a foreigner then my humungous penis might be a problem for her delicate flower of a vagina (yeah, like that shit hasn't been busted up a million different ways to Sunday already) , so no dice. Way to leave me hanging there girl. So threw my cock over my shoulder and headed back home defeated yet again (well, beaten but I'm not giving up that easy. Will try again soon!).

Just thought I'd throw that story out there for you guys so you'd know to avoid her if possible. Yuna (of the unsullied vagina clan).

Naniwan
03-21-12, 02:08
Hi Naniwan,

Thanks for the report, really got me eager to try it out. Do you think I'd be able to just turn up and get in with a basic level of Japanese?I think you'd be OK. The staff weren't overly welcoming but go along and see what happens. They can only say "no" in the end and nothing is lost.

Naniwan
03-21-12, 02:13
Good report you rude bastard! HAHA. Joking. The place across the road from that one sucked. Huge bait and switch place and the girl was boring.

This week I'm going to go down to see if the Umeda Chinese place AK recommended before is still around. Hopefully it is. Will report back.LOL gutted! . I think I know the one you're talking about with the bait and switch, though I can't remember the name of the top of my head. Club Ruby? Or something.

The place AK is talking about? You mean Toukaen from years back or another one (maybe I should RTFF). I went to the place that used to be Toukaen in like summer 2009 twice (?) I think. The girls were smoking but did the old "I'm coming let's come together!" BS after 30 seconds of action. I wish it was like it was in 2008. Man, it was good.

Anarkhia
03-21-12, 03:44
So anyway, after mailing about a dozen or so married women, and being shot down in flames each time (Grossman, you are so unreasonable wanting to meet up at an adult dating site where people are supposed to meet up! When will I ever learn.) I tried one of the p4p girls (the imasugu area of the site). It was yuna-san. Everything was going smoothly by text mail and I brought up that I was a gaijin and she was OK with that, and I get to the meeting place (5. 30pm near Big Camera Namba) where I get a message that because I'm a foreigner then my humungous penis might be a problem for her delicate flower of a vagina (yeah, like that shit hasn't been busted up a million different ways to Sunday already) , so no dice. Way to leave me hanging there girl. So threw my cock over my shoulder and headed back home defeated yet again (well, beaten but I'm not giving up that easy. Will try again soon!).

Just thought I'd throw that story out there for you guys so you'd know to avoid her if possible. Yuna (of the unsullied vagina clan).Happymail's desperate housewives: hmm yeah this can be a tedious process. One has to endure endless empty conversation, pretending to be interested in their shallow lives, and even then they often bail out at the end. Slowly your succes rate can grow though as you become better at saying what they want to hear. But something tells me perhaps more guys from the site have started to take this road, meaning these ladies get several emails from western guys, making us suddenly look like a lecherous lot hehe. My succes rate was ok but then I did have the playing field to myself!

Yuna: yeah many of these girls have a shit attitude. I have only been stood up once or twice though so you just got unlucky. Or maybe she's learning German and thought Gross in your name referred to your Johnson.

Hatguy
03-21-12, 07:49
LOL gutted! . I think I know the one you're talking about with the bait and switch, though I can't remember the name of the top of my head. Club Ruby? Or something.

The place AK is talking about? You mean Toukaen from years back or another one (maybe I should RTFF). I went to the place that used to be Toukaen in like summer 2009 twice (?) I think. The girls were smoking but did the old "I'm coming let's come together!" BS after 30 seconds of action. I wish it was like it was in 2008. Man, it was good.I think it was the place next door to that. On the ground floor. You walk right in and round to the back. Mind you I went ages ago and yes the girls were incredible but YOU FINISH NOW was stated several times. Haha.

Hatguy
03-22-12, 08:40
Well. A couple of things. The place next to where Toukaen was is gone. Signs are down and the lights off. The place in the back where I went is boarded up. Too bad but there will be more.

Outside that closed theatre there's some girls waiting for whomever. Totally unrelated to SW I would have thought. But hey. I guess it could happen. I went back a couple of times to see what was up there. Mostly same as above but it was early compared to Anarkias visit I guess.

Time to find some new joints. Anyone got reports on new places? Especially the Chinese ones?

BigManJapan
03-22-12, 09:01
Happymail's desperate housewives: hmm yeah this can be a tedious process. One has to endure endless empty conversation, pretending to be interested in their shallow lives, and even then they often bail out at the end. Slowly your succes rate can grow though as you become better at saying what they want to hear. But something tells me perhaps more guys from the site have started to take this road, meaning these ladies get several emails from western guys, making us suddenly look like a lecherous lot hehe. My succes rate was ok but then I did have the playing field to myself!

Yuna: yeah many of these girls have a shit attitude. I have only been stood up once or twice though so you just got unlucky. Or maybe she's learning German and thought Gross in your name referred to your Johnson.Almost had a happy mail 30 year old housewife today but after she gave me her keitai email and I mailed her I'm Caucasian she mailed back "I hate foreigners" in Japanese. I was like yeah fuck you too LOL

Hatguy
03-22-12, 12:00
Happy mail can be hell mail.

If you are unfortunate like me it can turn out to be hell. I got an email addy from a mate and tried to meet up with a girl. We first said Namba stn. I got there and she came back with HOW ABOUT TOMORROW. This was AFTER. She said lets meet now! AFTER! I really should have left it there but I'm retarded.

Tonight I told her meet me in Namba. This girl, by the way, seemed to forget that she had fucked me over the night before and said the previous nights amount. She wouldn't budge. So I dumbly agreed to that. And told her a time and place.

I have to stop and say this. I'm an idiot when it comes to dealing with women as it is but this was super spastic!
Of course she no showed. But only after calling me to rub it in. At least that's how I have to take it now. Urgh! She didn't rub it in by saying anything to that effect but it could be interpreted that way.

Of course I sent her an email saying she was a time wasting *****. Lol

Her email starts with 0hm38r142z8352t and ends with ezweb. Name is Emi. You have been warned.

Azure Knight
03-22-12, 23:44
Wow. Usually hate like that is reserved for blacks and japanese girls are eager to get in the sack with a white guy.I'm getting tired of your nonsense. I'm black, not particularly attractive, and I meet more women in a week than you dream about.

Start contributing something useful or don't post at all.

Hatguy
03-23-12, 08:50
Wow. Usually hate like that is reserved for blacks and japanese girls are eager to get in the sack with a white guy.If you whine and moan about things here you get put in your place. I did even though I contribute. My advice to you is to STOP the moaning about being black. We are all foreigners to the Japanese. SO FUCKING WHAT!

Goodboy967
03-24-12, 15:00
If you whine and moan about things here you get put in your place. I did even though I contribute. My advice to you is to STOP the moaning about being black. We are all foreigners to the Japanese. SO FUCKING WHAT!Hey, I am also black; but whenever I want to go mongering, I have never been at a disadvantage because of my skin color. I am usually not interested in FS when I go out because Sumata is enough for me. I am here to tell you that I have had two great occasions on my visits to Osaka. The first one was in the famous Tobita Shinchi area. After walking around the area, I found several shops that were willing to take me and I chose the one which had the hottest girl. And I had a great experience with her. After we finished, the mama-san gave me a card for the shop and told me that I was always welcome to the shop whenever I am in Osaka.

Last week, I was in Osaka again, I wanted a new experience. My hotel was two minutes away from Nishi-kujo station on Osaka Loop Line. I was scheduled to spend only one night in Osaka. I checked the area around Nishi-kujo station but I did not find any fuzoku shop, except for an oppai momi momi shop (a shop where you play with the lady's breasts). After searching on Google in Japanese, I discovered that there were many fuzoku shops near Kujo station on the Hanshin line, one stop away from Nishi-kujo station. I had to walk there thinking that I may find some fuzoku shops along the way but that was not to be. I reached Kujo station and the place was full of life. After walking around for sometime, I found several Tobita styled sex shops. A few of them were willing to take me. Again, after going around the whole area, I finally settled on one shop which had three young ladies with big boobs; I chose one of them paid 10, 000 Yen and upstairs we went. She sucked me for a while, We changed positions to 69. I did not eat her pussy but it's smell was great. Then she did paizuri on me and ended with sumata. After everything, we had a shower together and I was out of the shock. A really lovely experience! I will surely go back.

Grossman
03-27-12, 12:58
Hey kids, I have a question about using love hotels for the specific purpose of delivery health. Some delivery health places cater to love hotels (and / or business hotels) but I've only ever been to love hotels as a couple (bringing the girl with me) and walking in off the street. It seems that these delivery health places don't really want you do do that though, they want you to have already checked in before the chick arrives. But to my mind that means you'd just be hanging around in the love hotel, burning the clock and not doing anything (OK, well, maybe jerking off.) just waiting for her to arrive.

I've ordered delivery health to my home, but recently I've gone off that idea a bit and would prefer to do it at a love hotel.

What's the deal, have any of you guys ever ordered delivery health to meet you at a love hotel? How does it work? Cheers all.

Azure Knight
03-28-12, 10:50
But to my mind that means you'd just be hanging around in the love hotel, burning the clock and not doing anything (OK, well, maybe jerking off.) just waiting for her to arrive.It's pretty much as you described. You can call ahead to try and cut down on the waiting time but you may still be there half an hour or an hour before the girl shows up. Some places call the room to make sure you are actually in there as well.

Baka Guy
04-03-12, 07:58
Time to find some new joints. Anyone got reports on new places? Especially the Chinese ones?[/QUOTE]I also found my the Chinese places in Nihonbashi, Namba, Doyama shut down.

Fortunately, I've found a few more places where business is running as usual. The north side of the station, the western side of the station have several stores in bunches.

Kyobashi has also a few parlors.

If you do a search, &20140; &27211; &12288; &20013; &22269; &12288; &12456; &12473; &12486; , you will find many results.

Enjoy!

Lion
04-06-12, 02:14
But to my mind that means you'd just be hanging around in the love hotel, burning the clock and not doing anything (OK, well, maybe jerking off.) just waiting for her to arrive.Best to have a number of places to call and find one that can deliver promptly. Places with phone numbers specific to your area are a start. Some agencies advertise delivery all over, but may be far from your hotel.

You can try reserving a girl for delivery to a specific hotel, but until you are there the agency will not send her.

Mid-day rates tend to be 2-3hrs, which allows for 30-60min wait for girl time and still 1-2hrs play.

Agencies know you are paying for time though, and the chances you will reject a girl and wait for a replacement are low when the clock is ticking.

Grossman
04-13-12, 07:54
Thanks Azure Knight and Lion!

I've got the picture now. It means much more of an investment in time and money (and pre-planning) so it's a bit of a pain in the ass for us 9 to 5'ers to organize. I actually took the afternoon off work today hoping to book this one particular chick who took my fancy on one of the deriheru sites that only does outcall to hotels. But when I checked their site in the morning (after 10am when they updated it) , turns out she wasn't working today! Fuck. A wasted half-day off. I"m kind of particular about who I spend money on, so no point trying to book someone else.

Instead I cruised the deriheru sites and jerked off to the naughty bitches. (wow, she's hot, AND she does anal. Fap fap fap). Saved myself 30, 000 yen. .

Next time I WILL complete the mission, and report back with details of my latest net-crush, if she's any good.

Bob Davis
04-24-12, 19:04
Took a trip to Tennoji area yesterday (Mon) and it went pretty well. Got in the area about 4 pm, and took a short lap around. Settled in on a nice girl very skinny girl named emiri (Emily). Get the 15 minutes for 11, 000, and get right down to business. Cleans me off, and starts BBBJ on me. Now, this is my second time in the area, and I was feeling generous. I grab her and put her in a 69. Pussy looked great, but she had left a little but of TP down there after she cleaned up. For those of you unaccustomed to eating TP, it is not a fun experience.

After cutting that activity short, she wrapped little Bob Davis, and got on top for a few minutes. Switched to doggy and finished. Overall, about an 8.

Now, I decided to walk around the entire area (about 5 roads wide) just to see what my hit rate is. I was getting about 20-25% hit rate, and I look like a bloated mongoose. YMMV. There were some very fine looking girls. Noted a few Filipinas, mostly Japanese.

Take the Midosuji line to Dobutsuenmae, get out at exit two, and walk all the way down the end of the shopping street ( 15 min). Hang a left and you're there.

Hatguy
04-25-12, 03:52
Took a trip to Tennoji area yesterday (Mon) and it went pretty well. Got in the area about 4 pm, and took a short lap around. Settled in on a nice girl very skinny girl named emiri (Emily). Get the 15 minutes for 11, 000, and get right down to business. Cleans me off, and starts BBBJ on me. Now, this is my second time in the area, and I was feeling generous. I grab her and put her in a 69. Pussy looked great, but she had left a little but of TP down there after she cleaned up. For those of you unaccustomed to eating TP, it is not a fun experience.

After cutting that activity short, she wrapped little Bob Davis, and got on top for a few minutes. Switched to doggy and finished. Overall, about an 8.

Now, I decided to walk around the entire area (about 5 roads wide) just to see what my hit rate is. I was getting about 20-25% hit rate, and I look like a bloated mongoose. YMMV. There were some very fine looking girls. Noted a few Filipinas, mostly Japanese.

Take the Midosuji line to Dobutsuenmae, get out at exit two, and walk all the way down the end of the shopping street (15 min). Hang a left and you're there.Philippinas? Where? Tobita is reportedly only Japanese

Bob Davis
04-25-12, 14:09
Philippinas? Where? Tobita is reportedly only JapaneseThe toilet paper thing gets no response, but the filipina girl does. Hmmm.

The exact shop is hard to point out, but ill try. For the exact shop, come out of doubutsuenmae, exit 2. Walk all the way down to the end of the shopping street. Turn left and walk up the main street, going under the highway, and turn left at the first parking lot after the highway. Go straight and you'll see the shop on the far left corner of the intersection. The door is facing the corner, not one street or the other.

How I know it was a Filipino is that I asked the lady, and she said she's japanese from okinawa. I threw out a little Filipino and the girl looked right at me startled. Then Mama shoo'd me away.

Klngal
04-25-12, 14:57
atLoveShibuyaGirls that sound find to me, very polite and grammatically correct! I would just say fera tte nama demo ii? But maybe that's a little rude?

Anyways, kicking around Namba on Saturday afternoon and got the twitch and just couldn't resist it this time (I haven't mongered for over a year). A friend of mine had recommended this place as Gaijiin-OK but I never verified it myself and didn't want to post until I tried.

http://club-amour.com/top.php

Club Amour is a "mat fashion health" setup and the rooms / hotel is actually in the building. I called beforehand to check if foreigners were OK but was told that none of the discount options would be available (which is annoying because they have the live "ima sugu onna" list so you can almost g'tee you get a looker for 10, 000).

Oh well, anyway, I chose the 50 min course; 16, 000 + 1, 000 panel. And chose Natsumi.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=302

# Pictures are accurate to the point that they're very good and making them look like models. She was nice though but heavy makeup, 'glamour' body and big tits.

The course was; shower + wash down and rubbing, into the bath with a kissing & BBBJ then she gets the mat ready for the nuru nuru massage. She was pretty good and them turned me over and finished me off with BBBJ and handjob. You can get as many shots in as you like but I settled for the 1.

A bit expensive but it was fun and may go again in the future. Easy to find, just walk past SPOTAKA coming from Namba, take left down a side street and keep going. You can see the sign easily (it's in English; CLUB AMOUR) and it has a glass front that leads into the reception. Oh, they give you a little number and you sit and wait while the girl gets ready then she meets you at the lift and go to the room with her.

GL HF!Tried it a few weeks back w / o booking. Just walked in and said to the guy at reception "no Japanese". Another guy then came over and asked "no sex. OK?" I replied "OK" and was given a numbered card and taken to the waiting room to pick my choice from amongst the photos posted on a wall. Got a 24 year old one with big boobs who provided good service but showed me to the door after 35 minutes nothwithstanding the fact that I paid for 50 minutes. Would go bacl none the less.

Hatguy
04-26-12, 03:01
The toilet paper thing gets no response, but the filipina girl does. Hmmm.

The exact shop is hard to point out, but ill try. For the exact shop, come out of doubutsuenmae, exit 2. Walk all the way down to the end of the shopping street. Turn left and walk up the main street, going under the highway, and turn left at the first parking lot after the highway. Go straight and you'll see the shop on the far left corner of the intersection. The door is facing the corner, not one street or the other.

How I know it was a Filipino is that I asked the lady, and she said she's japanese from okinawa. I threw out a little Filipino and the girl looked right at me startled. Then Mama shoo'd me away.Aah. You're representing huh? Nice. Busted! That place gets a visit from me soon. Thanks bro!

Metabo
04-28-12, 22:47
Ok boys,

Got to share my Friday night with you: after 8 years of mongering here I had the best I've had yet. Let me explain.

Wasted in Kyobashi and looking. (f you know kyobashi then you know where. Just past the bridge). Found a deli and headed in. Tout at the door's first words: "no fucking." I said no problem and was given a number card. Ushered into a curtained off waiting area filled with manga and probably about 12 other smoking 20-somethings. I'm in a suit and these boys look like school kids, jeans a tees. Anyway, after about a 10-miute wait the counter guy calls me up to the front. It's time to pay and choose my girl. There are cheaper and more expensive girls, but the time is the same: 75 minutes for 14, 000 base price. DEAL! I choose a cheaper, homelier one cause I'm old and any young girl is cute to me. She wasn't bad. Maybe 24? 25? Kinda cute, too. Maybe a 6 0r 7 out of 10. (There are hotter to be sure, but they were more expensive (maybe extra 5?) and much busier too!) Back to the waiting room for another 15 minutes. Then my number comes up. Tout tells me to meet my girl in the hall, outside of the establishment. She picks me up and we set off to a hotel. At the hotel girl picks up the tab and we head up to our room. She starts a bath, we undress, gargle iodine and bathe. She washed me up and herself and then we hopped into bed. GFE all the way. We kiss. I eat her snatch, she sucks peter, I kiss her beefy jugs. This goes on for 25 mins. I ask to fuck. She says "don't tell the clerk, and it's ok." I ask her if she has rubbers and she (of course) has a ton. I think she mighta let me fuck her without, but I'll never know. She slips one on and we fuck for a while. I go soft and pull off the condom. More head till peter gets stiff again. Fuck her doggy till Peter wears out again and off with the condom. We're getting on an hour and it's time to cum. More BBBJ. She wasn't very good at all at BJs, but we were both trying. Finally I erupt in her mouth, on her tits and in her hair. She simply exclaimed "ooh!" in a surprised, but giggly way. It was really cute, actually. Take another bath together, have a smoke and head for home. Will for sure go back. If I can find / remember which place I wandered in to.

BigManJapan
04-29-12, 02:12
Happy mail can be hell mail.

If you are unfortunate like me it can turn out to be hell. I got an email addy from a mate and tried to meet up with a girl. We first said Namba stn. I got there and she came back with HOW ABOUT TOMORROW. This was AFTER. She said lets meet now! AFTER! I really should have left it there but I'm retarded.

Tonight I told her meet me in Namba. This girl, by the way, seemed to forget that she had fucked me over the night before and said the previous nights amount. She wouldn't budge. So I dumbly agreed to that. And told her a time and place.

I have to stop and say this. I'm an idiot when it comes to dealing with women as it is but this was super spastic!

Of course she no showed. But only after calling me to rub it in. At least that's how I have to take it now. Urgh! She didn't rub it in by saying anything to that effect but it could be interpreted that way.

Of course I sent her an email saying she was a time wasting. LOL.

Her email starts with 0hm38r142z8352t and ends with ezweb. Name is Emi. You have been warned.I had a nice time with a happymail girl yesterday whom I've met before. This time I felt it was ok for her to visit my place. She showed up on time, actually a little early but mailed first to ask if it was ok. She had 6 beers and snacks she bought for us which was sweet. We watched some tv and were starting to get into the kissing when her friend called, they talked like 30 minutes but the nice thing is she kept feeding me snacks and stroking my leg / holding my hand while I watched tv, so I wasn't completely ignored haha. Anyways after the call she took a quick shower and slid into bed with me. She's adorably cute with a nice tan, dark blonde hair put up in a bun with a little twist on the side. She's in great shape but not stick thin. She's got big perky tits that are handfuls for sure with nice small dark nipples. We kissed a lot but her neck is to sensitive to kiss a lot. I went down on her for about 20 minutes she makes some great sounds and her gspot is up near the front of her pussy so I can insert my tongue and lick it real good for her! When we changed positions I noticed the bed was soaked haha! I had her sit on my face and just fuck the shit out of me while she reached back and jerked me off. After some 69 she focused on blowing me, she's awesome at it but doesn't stick with it long enough but when she's doing it she's a pro. I put on the condom and we started in missionary, watching her big titties gyrate is a real treat! Her face is so cute that I almost came to fast just from watching her face! Switched her to doggy and fucked her hard that way and she worked it really good moving with me. Got her back in missionary and she was grabbing my ass hard and I busted a huge nut in her! She gave me like a 40second orgasm and kissed all over my neck while I enjoyed it. After we were resting and she noticed my video games and told me she's a gamer so we ended up playing Xbox and ps3 and enjoying our beers. Little big man Japan started waking up again but this girl is a one pop kinda girl and she strategically put her pants back on haha it had been about 3 hours and she said she needed to go soon which was the truth because it was about 10 minutes until the time she had previously said she would need to leave as she has work early the next morning. As we were getting dressed he asked if I had any money. I gave her 15, 000 I think she was a little disappointed because she stayed so long and got the beers and stuff. I normally give her 15000 but it was all the extra cash I had with me. She cheered back up and held my hand all the way to the station. All in all thank you happymail for a nice GFE!

Hatguy
05-02-12, 15:45
Ok so Hatguy is back on the boil. Better late than never!

I just went to club Queen in TENNOJI. Last time I was faced with disappointment because of the bulimic chick and her sorry I am so shit attitude I nearly quit going because of her. Anyway, needing a release I went back tonight. The prices have gone up since my first visit. 7500 yen advertised. Reduced to 7k because I protested. And its now 30 mins. Not 40.

I had the best girl I have had there tonight. Name given by pm to trusted members only. But she was thin but not too thin with nice tits and good attitude. Blew me for about 20 mins no complaints though I knew mini Hatguy was pissing her off. And then took my load in her mouth. May have spat it in the tissue but really good.

Those boobs of hers were just so nice. Next time I will be asking for her. And that shirt comes off for me to play as well. Yummy!

Metabo
05-02-12, 16:33
Hatguy,

Three cheers for your promising post.

I respect your desire to keep things hush. I am not a member and thus cannot be "pm"the. But I ask you as a brother and fellow felatiator, can you throw a guy a bone? I don't expect you to reveal your secrets out into the air. But is there no way we can exchange data?

I am reluctant to join be / see my wife manages to finds out too much of my secret info.


Ok so Hatguy is back on the boil. Better late than never!

I just went to club Queen in TENNOJI. Last time I was faced with disappointment because of the bulimic chick and her sorry I am so shit attitude I nearly quit going because of her. Anyway, needing a release I went back tonight. The prices have gone up since my first visit. 7500 yen advertised. Reduced to 7k because I protested. And its now 30 mins. Not 40.

I had the best girl I have had there tonight. Name given by pm to trusted members only. But she was thin but not too thin with nice tits and good attitude. Blew me for about 20 mins no complaints though I knew mini Hatguy was pissing her off. And then took my load in her mouth. May have spat it in the tissue but really good.

Those boobs of hers were just so nice. Next time I will be asking for her. And that shirt comes off for me to play as well. Yummy!

Hatguy
05-02-12, 22:29
Hatguy,

Three cheers for your promising post.

I respect your desire to keep things hush. I am not a member and thus cannot be "pm"the. But I ask you as a brother and fellow felatiator, can you throw a guy a bone? I don't expect you to reveal your secrets out into the air. But is there no way we can exchange data?

I am reluctant to join be / see my wife manages to finds out too much of my secret info.It sucks but I would suggest going there and asking for a girl that's not too fat. You are one of the guys I wish had membership. How would she find out? Credit card statements? It shows up as ISG charities. Just tel her that stands for International Save Genoa fund. Or something like that. Does she check your net usage?

OldGeezer
05-03-12, 20:45
Instead I cruised the deriheru sites and jerked off to the naughty bitches. (wow, she's hot, AND she does anal. Fap fap fap). Saved myself 30, 000 yen. .Mate, with the money I have saved this way I have bough two new cars over the years!