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Hatguy
05-04-12, 12:57
Bingo old geezer. This is how I afford to take 2 trips overseas during the year and fuck for less. Sometimes even for free if possible. I've got one in Thailand just like that. She's more interested in just hanging out and lets me do anything I want to her.

Also with the proliferation of these cheap carriers in the market you can get dirt cheap flights to other destinations. 18000 return to Manila anyone? Jetstar has specials where that's possible in off season. I know its hard to get away for some but once you have your girls from previous trips you can consider flying them in for a dirty weekend or week!

Food for thought! I'm sure guys have been doing this for years though. The lurkers here etc. LOL

Bob Davis
05-06-12, 08:38
Ok so Hatguy is back on the boil. Better late than never!

I just went to club Queen in TENNOJI. Last time I was faced with disappointment because of the bulimic chick and her sorry I am so shit attitude I nearly quit going because of her. Anyway, needing a release I went back tonight. The prices have gone up since my first visit. 7500 yen advertised. Reduced to 7k because I protested. And its now 30 mins. Not 40.

I had the best girl I have had there tonight. Name given by pm to trusted members only. But she was thin but not too thin with nice tits and good attitude. Blew me for about 20 mins no complaints though I knew mini Hatguy was pissing her off. And then took my load in her mouth. May have spat it in the tissue but really good.

Those boobs of hers were just so nice. Next time I will be asking for her. And that shirt comes off for me to play as well. Yummy!So I've always gone to tennoji for the other type of services. The simplistic "see the girl outside, know wha you get" service. That runs for 11, 000 for 15. What kind of place is this Club Queen, and is it just as much a sure thing as the "snack shops" near by?

Hatguy
05-06-12, 20:51
So I've always gone to tennoji for the other type of services. The simplistic "see the girl outside, know wha you get" service. That runs for 11, 000 for 15. What kind of place is this Club Queen, and is it just as much a sure thing as the "snack shops" near by?As I and many others have reported in the past this is a BJ place with all you can drink beer / wine / etc. It's not everyones cup of tea. But you can get away cheaper than Tobita and you get more time to feel up the girl. Most will let you touch their tits and put your hand down their pants as well. It's usually a one shot place but also that depends on the girl. I've had one girl go after a second round but we ran out of clock. One time another one said she wanted a cock ride. This was probably bs but it was fun to have her say it even as a tease only.

For directions read either my or others earlier posts.

Hatguy

BionicMan
05-06-12, 22:53
I am reluctant to join be / see my wife manages to finds out too much of my secret info.Spare 25$ Cash, read the procedure, fill the Form, mail it with tha cash in an envelope and mail it.

In a few weeks you will be a paying member of ISG for one year and the job is done, seamless, and your SO will never know

Lion
05-07-12, 02:00
atLoveShibuyaGirls that sound find to me, very polite and grammatically correct! I would just say fera tte nama demo ii? But maybe that's a little rude?

Anyways, kicking around Namba on Saturday afternoon and got the twitch and just couldn't resist it this time (I haven't mongered for over a year). A friend of mine had recommended this place as Gaijiin-OK but I never verified it myself and didn't want to post until I tried.

http://club-amour.com/top.php

Club Amour is a "mat fashion health" setup and the rooms / hotel is actually in the building. I called beforehand to check if foreigners were OK but was told that none of the discount options would be available (which is annoying because they have the live "ima sugu onna" list so you can almost g'tee you get a looker for 10, 000).

Oh well, anyway, I chose the 50 min course; 16, 000 + 1, 000 panel. And chose Natsumi.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=302

# Pictures are accurate to the point that they're very good and making them look like models. She was nice though but heavy makeup, 'glamour' body and big tits.

The course was; shower + wash down and rubbing, into the bath with a kissing & BBBJ then she gets the mat ready for the nuru nuru massage. She was pretty good and them turned me over and finished me off with BBBJ and handjob. You can get as many shots in as you like but I settled for the 1.

A bit expensive but it was fun and may go again in the future. Easy to find, just walk past SPOTAKA coming from Namba, take left down a side street and keep going. You can see the sign easily (it's in English; CLUB AMOUR) and it has a glass front that leads into the reception. Oh, they give you a little number and you sit and wait while the girl gets ready then she meets you at the lift and go to the room with her.

GL HF!Bit pricey, but looks like a good lineup. Your directions sound easy, but always good to have a backup. I looked at the website though and couldn't find a map. Is there one?

Naniwan
05-07-12, 08:11
Bit pricey, but looks like a good lineup. Your directions sound easy, but always good to have a backup. I looked at the website though and couldn't find a map. Is there one?There's a decent one on the system page: http://club-amour.com/system.php

Bob Davis
05-09-12, 09:24
As I and many others have reported in the past this is a BJ place with all you can drink beer / wine / etc. It's not everyones cup of tea. But you can get away cheaper than Tobita and you get more time to feel up the girl. Most will let you touch their tits and put your hand down their pants as well. It's usually a one shot place but also that depends on the girl. I've had one girl go after a second round but we ran out of clock. One time another one said she wanted a cock ride. This was probably bs but it was fun to have her say it even as a tease only.

For directions read either my or others earlier posts.

HatguySo are most of these like Pink Salons"? Are they just walk in?

Dumb question, but is there any obvious signage, or specific look to these places that set them apart?

Mahalo.

Illegal
05-10-12, 05:49
Hey everyone, new to forum, thanks for all the info posted! I'll be in the Osaka area soon, have some Japanese but not fluent (so not looking for deliheru) , and looking for quick action! I've RTFF but still had some questions I hoped I could get some help with:

When does Club Queen open? Open in the afternoon?

Any pinsaro for foreigners in the Namba / Shinsaibashi area?

Where to get some hot Japanese girl anal action?

Hopefully I can post up some info after my upcoming trip. All I've got in Osaka before was massage / HJ in Shinsaibashi area (from Dotonbori bridge with Glico, north of bridge, the street one block east running north (parallel to main shopping street Shinsaibashisuji) , there were a lot of providers several blocks up, on a street to the right, can't miss them late-night).

Lion
05-11-12, 02:49
Where to get some hot Japanese girl anal action?Http://www.muki-mania.com/system.html

No guarantees on foreigners being allowed though.

Illegal
05-11-12, 03:05
Http://www.muki-mania.com/system.html

No guarantees on foreigners being allowed though.Thanks, saw the AF option starting at 20k, didn't see a map tho, any help with directions appreciated!

A few other questions:

Anybody ever tip the girls in Japan? I did in Thailand tho seemed not necessary but there was so cheap that throwing them a few extra didn't seem to be a big deal, but Japan is expensive!

What Namba / Shinsaibashi bars have people been enjoying, generally or for nampa?

I thought I read on here about some luck thru craigslist but I see very little there, what sections are people finding success in? I wouldn't mind taking care of a bored shufu in the afternoon.

Bob Davis
05-13-12, 04:38
OK, I'm just going to throw this out there, cause it's not a delicate question.

Is it OK or completely unacceptable to ask a sex worker in any variation if you can finish on their face?

You're already paying for other services, so is it OK to try and negotiate an upgrade? Like getting the hot wax at the car wash. It's a fetish I have, but never had a willing partner, and I figured the girl gets to keep the extra money (how much? 2k yen. 3k?). I've tried thinking of other kinks so the facial doesn't get singled out, but other fetishes have their own venues, SM bar, cosplay snack shops, etc; . Is asking for a facial finish out of line?

Aloha

Meiji
05-13-12, 15:12
Is it OK or completely unacceptable to ask a sex worker in any variation if you can finish on their face?I think it's acceptable to ask unless the rules prohibit it. Japanese clubs usually have a long list of rules to follow, and most often the girls profile on their website will say exactly what is and isn't on her menu, including coming on face, coming in her mouth, etc. If it's listed on the site and she doesn't do it, don't ask her unless you are a regular with her. I'd think generally it's not going to be okay with girls because it might get in their eye, they have to re-do their makeup, they have to wash their hair if it gets in their hair, etc. Strangely many would rather you come in their mouth than on their face, but I think it depends on the girl.

Xslikx
05-13-12, 15:13
Is it OK or completely unacceptable to ask a sex worker in any variation if you can finish on their face?It's fine to ask, but it depends on your Japanese ability. I usually just tell them in a friendly way that I'm going to do it, and then if they freak out I hold off, and otherwise I give them a facial.

If you want to go the official route, many shops have a facial option. It will be called ganmen-hassha or just gansha. In conversation, however, it's more natural to say "kao ni dasu," such as "kao ni dasu ne," or "kao ni dashite ii?"

Johnnyboy84
05-14-12, 08:52
In my experience, its been an extra 4000 or so to cum on a girls face. Not all girls allow this. I have been able to do this on 4 occasions and for the faces I've cummed on, they were worth the extra price. Usually cummin in mouth is part of the service, but I have had one instance, where I've paid an extra 4000 to have the girl swallow and in my one experience with that, it was well worth it.

Bodi999
05-14-12, 18:48
Is Club Amour foreigner friendly?

Bodi999
05-15-12, 00:20
Is club amour foreigner friendly?


There's a decent one on the system page:

http://club-amour.com/system.php

Johnnyboy84
05-15-12, 11:35
Yes, amour is foreigner friendly, but I believe you need some japanese

Bob Davis
05-15-12, 20:28
Has anybody visited the Kobe area and gone to Fukuhara? I've wandered through once, but couldn't make tits from tail what was a soapland, and what was a massage place.

Lion
05-16-12, 02:05
Has anybody visited the Kobe area and gone to Fukuhara? I've wandered through once, but couldn't make tits from tail what was a soapland, and what was a massage place.Haven't been in Kobe for a while, but pretty sure you can get at least a BJ.

Price and acceptance is a good indication of whether it is a soap or not (most soaps don't serve gaijin and cost 20, 000+).

Klngal
05-17-12, 06:10
Yes, amour is foreigner friendly, but I believe you need some japaneseNope. I was there last month and told the reception that I couldn't speak a single word of Japanese. No problem at all.

Bob Davis
05-18-12, 17:53
OK fellas, Got time to kill and Money to burn Monday afternoon.

Anybody wanted to try a service, but wanted some sucker to try it first? I'm your man. Looking for some new ideas for Monday. Any suggestions, let me know.

Japanda
05-19-12, 09:07
Http://www.muki-mania.com/system.html

No guarantees on foreigners being allowed though.Anyone been to the Muki Tamago in Umeda? Any good? Worth a shot?

Bob Davis
05-19-12, 21:02
Anyone been to the Muki Tamago in Umeda? Any good? Worth a shot?Haven't been, maybe Monday. Trying to decide between there and club amour.

FunInKyoto69
05-20-12, 02:03
OK fellas, Got time to kill and Money to burn Monday afternoon.

Anybody wanted to try a service, but wanted some sucker to try it first? I'm your man. Looking for some new ideas for Monday. Any suggestions, let me know.How about this?

www Dot lush dot bz.

Please let us know how it went

Illegal
05-22-12, 01:42
Http://www.muki-mania.com/system.html

No guarantees on foreigners being allowed though.Double thanks! Got a chance to check the site on a PC (vs mobile) , saw the map and that place is very convenient for me and easy to find (super important!). I'll be in the area soon and hopefully TOFTT going there as a gaijin with just some Japanese; I'll report back how it goes, and even if bad, club amour isn't too far away.

Basementcello
05-30-12, 09:55
hello peeps,

this is the first time i've posted in the kansai section. although i'm in tokyo, i am posting here as i've seen several guys here who seem to be experienced in happymail / keitai dating in japanese etc. i'm looking for any advice if anyone has any.

i have recently been transferred back to tokyo and had an afternoon off work this week. i was so horny i could've mounted the photocopier and having been recently dumped, thought i'd give happymail a go. i just really fancied meeting a 'regular' japanese girl for an afternoon of no strings fun in exchange for a few m notes. i had set up my account and done all the age checks and point buying stuff in advance. so i look around at the "let's meet soon" category and find a few girls around shibuya, near where i live. i sent a generic message introducing myself and asking her to email me if she's interested. for the record, i'm early 30s half japanese, half british and speak / write more or less fluent japanese. i mentioned this all up front by the way, i've had similar troubles back in the day.

i get a reply back saying "is 2 man and condom ok?" etc. i say ok, we exchange real mail addresses and off to the meeting place i go. she says "meet me outside xx bank opposite shibuya and i'm wearing a black top and short pants, just text me when you get there, let's have fun etc" and i of course say what colour shirt and jeans i have. now there are so many cute girls in shibuya for those who haven't been but i was waiting in an obvious spot, trying to see who would come. many beautiful girls passed me by with cursory glances which was maddening. i suddenly get a message "you really look like a foreigner, sorry i can't meet you". i said " sorry to hear that. i'm a normal, nice guy, are you sure?" but no dice.

a funny thing is i noticed a blacked out transit van on the street behind me with 2 or 3 cute girls inside and a japanese dude vaguely glaring at me from the door. i wonder if they drive these girls around like semi pros, or if it was just a coincidence.

so i was left holding blue balls and honestly couldn't be bothered to find another girl. i may try later this week. do you guys think i could've played it any different? what has your experiences been with this kind of thing? i thought the whole fear of foreigners thing would not be an issue, but i guess even being half a foreigner is not good enough. damn.

Grossman
05-30-12, 16:36
Hi guys,

Just wanted to check in and let you know what's been happening since my last Happymail (mis) adventure.

Well, ever since my last disaster with the Happymail no-show, I've been tooling around for a few weeks in the imasugu section looking for someone else in Osaka who might fit my bill. Slender. 30's and dirty, but didn't find many prospects that suited me. Then, last week, I found someone that seemed reasonable and could meet me in Namba. Great! I booked it.

When I arrived down in the Namba (yotsubashi-suji) area I got an email that she had some errands to run and would be about an hour late. Ooooooh yeah, an hour late. Well, I thought, it was my wife's birthday, so I had to get her a present anyway, so I pushed off to Takashimaya to pick up something for the wife and to kill the time before meeting this new working girl. People sometimes give me shit about this, but the fact is that I'm always thinking about my wife, because that's just the kind of husband I am.

Anyway, after I picked up some shit for my wife, I went back to the place to meet the girl and she turned up within about 5 minutes of her appointed time. I was standing under the trees in the shade about 100 yards away so I could at least see her and verify that she was 'as advertised' before approaching. Damn if from a distance she didn't look OK! Nice and trim, about 30 why / o and well dressed. The game was on.

So I went up to her and said "Hi xxxx, I'm Grossman". She made eye contact for about a nanosecond, then said "hi" back. I didn't get a great vibe from her at the time, but, well, I thought she might be shocked that I'm a gaijin (I hadn't mentioned that fact previously) or just nervous, but anyway she didn't recoil so I led her off to a very nearby love hotel.

Once we got inside the hotel elevator, on the way to the room, I tried to make some smalltalk, as one does, and I got only yes / no answers to everything. I cracked a joke, but there way no response. I was afraid I'd caught a cold fish.

Enter the Twilight Zone. This girl was a total fuck-doll. A meat-puppet. She'd turned herself "off" emotionally and mentally for the whole time I was with her. But she was compliant (mostly) to what I asked of her in a sexual nature, but totally non-responsive to any human emotion at all. She never even made eye contact with me even once after that nano-second at the meeting spot. She never said a word that wasn't either yes or no in response to a question I'd asked. Fucking weird.

Compliant but empty. No fun at all. I went home with an empty ballsack and an empty feeling that I'd just fucked a blow-up-doll.

And after this second kind-of-failure with Happymail, after all my other mongering via legitimate deriheru sites or pink salons or what have you, have all been more than spectacular successes, it gave me pause to think about why these girls on Happymail are so fucking weird.

Think about it, this must be one of the places where girls who can't get clients at regular institutions go to. Either they're too weird, too picky, or too whatever. And then it got me thinking that places like Happymail might also be the kind of place that girls who can't pass STD tests go to find work.

I'm exercising caution from now on. Not just for STD's but because my whole experience so far with the girls on the Happymail site has been far less than adequate.

I've seen some of you other guys have had some good experiences, and that's great, but I'm going back to the tried and trusted.

Peace!

Grossman

Hatguy
05-31-12, 00:11
This time of year. Awesome for less and less clothes. More tits being shown etc. Great isn't it. Lately I haven't been in the p4p at all. A few trips overseas kinda wiping that possibility out. Not complaining. Just haven't been since club queen and the slim girl there with the BJ. Might go to Tobita if certain money comes my way later in the month.

Grossman
05-31-12, 11:53
I thought the whole fear of foreigners thing would not be an issue, but I guess even being half a foreigner is not good enough. Damn.Hi Basement, I can't comment on the Tokyo scene, only the Osaka one, but yeah, there still is some fear of foreigners at certain places and with certain girls. It's not universal though and you can find some good places that will treat you right once you get to know them.

My policy is always be polite to the tencho (manager) and staff at ANY shop. Even when they refuse me, I say sorry for bothering them and leave with a smile. Always be nice. It's the only way things might change and I feel if I behave myself like a gentleman then I might leave an impression that will help in future dealings they may have with other forieiners. In any case, I don't know the realities of their business, and they might not be personally racist but it's just that their clients tend to have the phobia so they can't be seen to allow foreigners in because of that. I understand that. It's just business.

But for individual girls who refuse me because I'm a gaijin, then they get totally fucking ignored. Racist people are generally lower class, uneducated and I feel better not associating with them.

Keep your chin up Basementcello!

Bob Davis
05-31-12, 16:32
This time of year. Awesome for less and less clothes. More tits being shown etc. Great isn't it. Lately I haven't been in the p4p at all. A few trips overseas kinda wiping that possibility out. Not complaining. Just haven't been since club queen and the slim girl there with the BJ. Might go to Tobita if certain money comes my way later in the month.I wonder how a tobita ISG meet-up fun day would go over.

Illegal
06-02-12, 02:17
I wonder how a tobita ISG meet-up fun day would go over.Ha, not likely well, but I'll likely be there next Thursday afternoon!

BigManJapan
06-02-12, 14:05
Sorry to hear about your misadventures with happymail grossman! Half the time when I tell the girls I'm a foreigner they say kimochiwarui I'm not sure why happymail girls dislike gaijin more than typical Japanese girls who usually love us. Anyhow, I'm still seeing my favorite happymail girl and we've kinda moved past sex and we go on dates like movies and stuff she's cool and sex is always an option. The other happymail girl who lives at the next station from me who has the big tities and a boyfriend like ignored me for 3 months after I was flirting with her even hotter friend when we all hung out, but she's started talking again this week. Hope her boyfriend dumped her, I still want to explore those big ol tities on that little body.

AussieGaigin
06-03-12, 00:28
I wonder how a tobita ISG meet-up fun day would go over.It is hard enough for solo gaigin punters to get admission these days, partly due to the bad behaviour of past customers. The sight of a group of gaigin approaching would have shops quickly closing their doors. This is not their idea of FUN.

DON"T EVEN CONSIDER THE IDEA, please.

Hatguy
06-03-12, 04:35
I have seen groups of Russians down there a couple of times. They get ignored by every single place. Must agree that a group visit would be a bad idea. However, if people were meeting after their session it might work.

My 2 yen.

Bob Davis
06-03-12, 04:36
It is hard enough for solo gaigin punters to get admission these days, partly due to the bad behaviour of past customers. The sight of a group of gaigin approaching would have shops quickly closing their doors. This is not their idea of FUN.

DON"T EVEN CONSIDER THE IDEA, please.Haha, that's a bit what I was implying. Like the cowboy movies where everyone rushes to shutter their doors and windows, haha.

Hatguy
06-04-12, 00:20
Hey all. I kinda went off the boil of late. Got one intermittent freebie and working on some others. Anyone been to Chinese lately? Or had Korean? If you have let us know the general area. Hatguy

Taradonz
06-04-12, 09:03
Does somebody know if Matsushima-shinchi area (in Osaka) is alive and well? I'm going to Osaka in a few months and would like some alternative to Tobita-shinchi.

Azure Knight
06-04-12, 12:08
Do you guys know a good chicken or beef place in Kyobashi? Ideally a place with counter or round-table seating.

Bob Davis
06-04-12, 20:53
Do you guys know a good chicken or beef place in Kyobashi? Ideally a place with counter or round-table seating.I had to read this 3 times looking for the double entendre. Apparently it's a legitimate restaurant recommendation on a prostition thread.

2nd strangest thing I've read here.

Azure Knight
06-05-12, 08:22
It's for a date I've got lined up tonight. She wants to eat chicken or beef, and she lives close to Kyobashi and offered to let me spend the night at her place, so I was trying to keep things close to her neighborhood for convenience. It's a nampa question, but I figured it made more sense to ask here rather than the nampa thread as this is specific to Kansai / Osaka.

BionicMan
06-05-12, 08:34
I had to read this 3 times looking for the double entendre. Apparently it's a legitimate restaurant recommendation on a prostition thread.

2nd strangest thing I've read here.Now I am curious to know what is the 1st strangest thing.

LoveShibuyaGirls
06-05-12, 22:25
All.

Just posting this here since there is more discussion on HappyMail in this thread.

So if you are going to meet a girl from HappyMail, it seems to me that here is what you should work out ahead of time:

Time and place.

Length of time.

Amount of compensation.

Who pays for the hotel.

When you pay (before or after)

Is there anything else?

I remember reading that there was a slang term in Japanese to indicate whether you pay for the hotel or the girl pays for the hotel. Does anybody remember it?

ImLondon80
06-06-12, 22:54
Hello guys!

I ll be in Kobe next week, please can someone suggest me some places where to have a nice full massage? Is it easy to find a sauna or similar where you can have full sex?

Is it easy to bring a girl in the hotel room?

Thank you very much!

Mark

Azure Knight
06-07-12, 00:11
All.

Just posting this here since there is more discussion on HappyMail in this thread.

So if you are going to meet a girl from HappyMail, it seems to me that here is what you should work out ahead of time:

Time and place.

Length of time.

Amount of compensation.

Who pays for the hotel.

When you pay (before or after)

Is there anything else?

I remember reading that there was a slang term in Japanese to indicate whether you pay for the hotel or the girl pays for the hotel. Does anybody remember it?When they quote you the price it'll be betsu (hotel separate) or komi (hotel included). Usually written in kanji.

Anarkhia
06-16-12, 07:31
Anarkhia is back. Been away and broke, so little mongering. Anyways, happymail has once again resurfaced as a topic under discussion so I'll just add my 2 yen. Grossman's lousy happymail experience is all too common I'm afraid, I've had some depressing ones myself. This made me think of why this option is still extremely popular in Japan. I think it has something to do with the fact that they are amateurs, its therefore a more raw and unpredictable experience. One reason why many of these girls are weird should be obvious; what kind of girl would meet a complete stranger just for some extra cash? Considering they don't have a pimp backing them up they are putting themselves into quite a vulnerable position, especially since this country seems to have more than its fair share of freaks. Also the reason many of them are weary of foreigners. So these girls are pretty reckless and wild, which once again adds to the attraction of happymail as opposed to the smooth service of pros. Even in a place like Holland where regular p4p is legal many people prefer (illegal) street hookers (who are on heroin most of the time) just for the thrill. Also, using this avenue you can take care of fetishes that regular p4p doesn't offer. Like bareback (plenty of girls offering this, note: its usually the same ones that post very often, meaning they have unprotected sex constantly, sounds like Russian roulette to me) ; outdoor or car sex; pregnant or lactating women; orgies and basically anything else you can imagine. Also, as I have described elsewhere, its easy to get a threesome for as little as 2 man, pretty cheap if you ask me. Also, whenever I meet a girl, I am extremely critical in my selection, going only for exactly the age category and body-type that I want. Then I want a photo, and I can usually figure out her attitude from her emails; if she is too cold or business-like I back out. BTW it helps if you are not too horny when doing this hehe. After a while I got better at spotting the ones I want, which are often the girls that don't do this often and just need a bit of cash at the end of the month. So, if you can work the system happymail is ok, but as an addition to the other options out there, not a replacement.

Good luck to you all!

Illegal
06-17-12, 01:28
So Tobita and multiple gaijin doesn't appear as restrictive as made out here. I was there Thursday before last, and as I entered I saw another gaijin leaving, and while there crossed paths with a pair of gaijin wearing t-shirts and shorts and still seemed to be getting solicited. I gave them a wide berth, just in case, so I could still get action. I was there dressed nicely about 3pm. I got about a 50% hit rate and didn't look in unless I heard "oneesan!". I took a full tour but didn't see any solicitation for cheaper on the fringes that others have mentioned. I saw many of interest and loved the setup but eventually just went with one with a cute regular build girl Sayaka (on the main street on left about halfway up, sign was the "ni" from nihon with a "7" surrounding it (don't know but 100 or so kanji). It was very GFE for 20 minutes at 16000 yen, and surprisingly included brief but good BBBJ then some covered, with mish then doggy finish. Minor issue, moans of passion started upon entry, a bit slower start would be more believable. Enjoyed it a lot and gave 2000 yen tip, figured gaijin goodwill would be good and might be good if I visited in the future. It was a great experience and more places should be like it!

On to Chinese, was in Shinsaibashi later that evening, one-two blocks east of Shinsaibashisuji, got the Chinese masseuse lead-in but a bad massage and upsell to a called-in Shanghai hooker who looked alright but not great and was all business, much worse than Tobita for not much difference in price, I won't be doing that again! I'll stick to a pre-bargained good massage and handy in that area for 6000 yen or so, if anything.

Another note, muki-mania was mentioned a couple of pages back for anal fucking but unsure about gaijin, I went by the location after Tobita but didn't check it out other than to note it is street entrance that goes directly to the basement and lacks a sign, just a frame with bulbs. I did go by the Shinsaibashi location on the lion tower mentioned as cheap but gone, to see what was there, it was one of those places where you get a girl and go to a hotel nearby, but "no sex" according to the tencho. It was amenable to gaijin business, but my Japanese isn't good enough to get clear what you get for the 10000 yen and who pays for the hotel, at least not to the guy I was talking to, but it seemed pricey to me but at least an option, though I'd go for club amour where it is clearer what you are getting for the price.

Azure Knight
06-17-12, 23:41
So, if you can work the system happymail is ok, but as an addition to the other options out there, not a replacement.

Good luck to you all!I had two happymail experiences last week. Monday was a 19 year old who works in a girls bar. She's burned people before so I guess I got lucky. A little heavy on the face makeup but smoking hot body. I'm keeping her email for future use.

On Friday I tried to set up a threesome. There was only one posting. Negotiations were going smoothly until I told them I was foreign. Gomen nasai. OK, your loss. The posting came up again a few hours later. I asked if they were having any luck and the girl said no. So now she was more receptive to me and we exchanged email. In the posting she said they were both pochari. I asked for a pic and she refused, saying her pic had been used in the past for malicious purposes. I sent my pic and said I would be OK with just a body pic, but she was adamantly against it. I told her I'd be willing to meet but I'd reserve the right to cancel if I didn't like what showed up. She was against this as well. So no pic and no possibility to cancel? No thank you. Bullet dodged as far as I'm concerned.

Azure Knight
06-17-12, 23:54
Enjoyed it a lot and gave 2000 yen tip, figured gaijin goodwill would be good and might be good if I visited in the future. It was a great experience and more places should be like it!No. Don't tip. Japan is not a tipping country, and you paying more only sets a precedent for them to charge us more off the bat.

If you want to show your gratitude, talk to the girl, try to give her a good time as well or at least make things go as smoothly as possible. Basically treat her like a human. Smile and be friendly with the mamasan. Thank her as well for accepting your business. And actually do go back and choose one of the longer time options. Sounds like common sense right? But so many J-guys just blow through there expecting to be treated like kings, or they just go in and out coolly. You being a good customer goes a long way, much farther than that extra 2000 yen.

On a somewhat related note, I think we should come to a consensus for the going rate for freelancers. I think 15000 should be the standard, maybe 20000 if she's offering great service.

Anarkhia
06-18-12, 09:03
I had two happymail experiences last week. Monday was a 19 year old who works in a girls bar. She's burned people before so I guess I got lucky. A little heavy on the face makeup but smoking hot body. I'm keeping her email for future use.

On Friday I tried to set up a threesome. There was only one posting. Negotiations were going smoothly until I told them I was foreign. Gomen nasai. OK, your loss. The posting came up again a few hours later. I asked if they were having any luck and the girl said no. So now she was more receptive to me and we exchanged email. In the posting she said they were both pochari. I asked for a pic and she refused, saying her pic had been used in the past for malicious purposes. I sent my pic and said I would be OK with just a body pic, but she was adamantly against it. I told her I'd be willing to meet but I'd reserve the right to cancel if I didn't like what showed up. She was against this as well. So no pic and no possibility to cancel? No thank you. Bullet dodged as far as I'm concerned.Yeah good for you, I would have backed out too. You got them down to 2man though right? Best to linger around (the site) and some hotter and keener 3p chicks will materialize. As for the going rates for the amateurs, I also say 15000 as the default price. Most girls will go for this. However, if she is unusually hot (and I've seen a pic) I think 1. 8 or 2man is still reasonable. But never more than that! Also, girls that go lower than 15000 tend to be train wrecks, unless its for car sex, which can sometimes be had for like 1man. Also, oral sex is around 1man, or slightly less, like 0. 8. The price for 3p is 2man, can't possibly expect to get it cheaper than that, unless we're talking seriously fugly. BTW if you have special desires like bareback the price might go up (if she agrees at all). All prices plus hotel.

Illegal
06-21-12, 02:35
No. Don't tip.I posed the question here weeks ago and no response, should have said something then!

Lky400
06-26-12, 07:33
Been lurking here for a while and figured its time to post.

I recently visited a certain "fashion mat health" place here in Osaka. No problems getting in, left the girl selection up to chance. Can't remember her name but she was quite pretty with a good personality. Service was similar to some soaplands I've been to in Tokyo. Undress, bathed by the girl, into the bath for a BBBJ. Out with the mat. Jumped on, got nurugelled up. Was all good until after the flip, I realized she was using her crotch to massage the little guy. No penetration, but skin to skin rubbing, right in between. Had been happening for about 30 sec before I realized. WTF I thought, but I let it go on anyway.

Overall it was not a bad time, although I'm kind of worried about STDs now. Time to go get tested before visiting again.

Out of interest. Is this usual for one of these places, or did unjust get an unrequested special service?

L. K. Y.

Lky400
06-26-12, 08:18
Been lurking here for a while and figured its time to post.

I recently visited a certain "fashion mat health" place here in Osaka. No problems getting in, left the girl selection up to chance. Can't remember her name but she was quite pretty with a good personality. Service was similar to some soaplands I've been to in Tokyo. Undress, bathed by the girl, into the bath for a BBBJ. Out with the mat. Jumped on, got nurugelled up. Was all good until after the flip, I realized she was using her crotch to massage the little guy. No penetration, but skin to skin rubbing, right in between. Had been happening for about 30 sec before I realized. WTF I thought, but I let it go on anyway.

Overall it was not a bad time, although I'm kind of worried about STDs now. Time to go get tested before visiting again.

Out of interest. Is this usual for one of these places, or did unjust get an unrequested special service?

L. K. Y.

Hatguy
07-04-12, 22:52
Lazy creature of habit Hatguy went down to Club Queen last night. Had same girl as last time. She was great. Really good body (for this place anyway) and I liked having my hands down her pants and all over her tits before I cummed in her mouth. The only problem is they now want 7500 yen and fucking insisted on it being 7500. I tried to pay 7000 but they were having none of it. Urgh! Its bad enough in Japan for this stuff without a small amount of leeway!

Metabo
07-06-12, 13:06
Lazy creature of habit Hatguy went down to Club Queen last night. Had same girl as last time. She was great. Really good body (for this place anyway) and I liked having my hands down her pants and all over her tits before I cummed in her mouth. The only problem is they now want 7500 yen and fucking insisted on it being 7500. I tried to pay 7000 but they were having none of it. Urgh! Its bad enough in Japan for this stuff without a small amount of leeway!HG,

Do you not worry about contracting anything with the BBBJCIM?

I admit there is very little that is better in this world. And I have been so super tempted to go down and try your girl. I just don't want to deal with another about of syphilis or anything else.

Thoughts

Hatguy
07-08-12, 10:04
HG,

Do you not worry about contracting anything with the BBBJCIM?

I admit there is very little that is better in this world. And I have been so super tempted to go down and try your girl. I just don't want to deal with another about of syphilis or anything else.

ThoughtsI totally agree. This place seems to take care with that stuff. Ie the mouthwash. Of course no guarantees. I personally have scaled back my monger to once a month or less. I have one freebie I meet very occasionally and that's about it. The rest of my fun is had overseas. Thanks to cheap airlines. For eg the Peach air people and their deals to Korea and Hong Kong.

If you are worried about getting busted then the option to go abroad is best. I go because I need the escape from the grind. And I am kinda tired of certain types of j women.

Hatguy

Metabo
07-10-12, 09:38
I totally agree. This place seems to take care with that stuff. Ie the mouthwash. Of course no guarantees. I personally have scaled back my monger to once a month or less. I have one freebie I meet very occasionally and that's about it. The rest of my fun is had overseas. Thanks to cheap airlines. For eg the Peach air people and their deals to Korea and Hong Kong.

If you are worried about getting busted then the option to go abroad is best. I go because I need the escape from the grind. And I am kinda tired of certain types of j women.

HatguyHG,

Any advice on getting a decent looking bird at Queen? I had one really good one and several big ones too. Would like to experience something like you had recently. That said, they could all work a pipe.

Bob Davis
07-11-12, 08:41
Emailed http://www.mukitamago.jp In Umeda (?) asking if foreigners are ok. They said no problem, just bring 2 forms of I'd. Strange, but not so much for Japan. Well, I checked the site again yesterday, and they expanded to Sannomiya and a few other places. Walked by the Sannomiya place, and they said Japanese only. Emailed the Sannomiya branch, and they said, sorry, no foreigners. Anybody got experience with this?

Hatguy
07-11-12, 11:09
HG,

Any advice on getting a decent looking bird at Queen? I had one really good one and several big ones too. Would like to experience something like you had recently. That said, they could all work a pipe.Yes. Ask that ugly door guy for a thin one. Zettaini hosoii ko? Make him promise!

Ps. The Tokyo couple Y and N are back looking for bb cream pie donors. Ie mix it around! Too hardcore for this hat!

Rick Rock
07-11-12, 12:25
Yes. Ask that ugly door guy for a thin one. Zettaini hosoii ko? Make him promise!

Ps. The Tokyo couple Y and N are back looking for bb cream pie donors. Ie mix it around! Too hardcore for this hat!Not so strange if you watch Japanese AV. Many a scene ends with a group nakadashi.

Wasabijoe
07-11-12, 13:42
Good report Naniwa, thank you.

I'm from north Osaka and not very familiar with Namba, so these directions don't mean much to me. Same goes for the website. The map and directions are largely in Kanji, which is not a Me friendly (I made out McDonald's though). Can anyone throw in a few more landmarks, and / or narrow down the location?

I've been RTFFing, but haven't seen much about mutual interaction: Can I grope freely, get my finger wet, etc? And has anyone gone for the full course, or better yet, the 3P? The damned cartoon on the website got me all worked up, but I'm (literally) socking away coins here to keep my "personal savings" under the wife's radar, so I need to be a bit cautious with my shiny metal; I'd hate to blow it all in an afternoon. How do the girls compare to Tobita? Does choosing their photo off the wall cost a premium? Basically, anyone's experiences there would be great.

Thanks forum.


http://club-amour.com/top.php

A bit expensive but it was fun and may go again in the future. Easy to find, just walk past SPOTAKA coming from Namba, take left down a side street and keep going. You can see the sign easily (it's in English; CLUB AMOUR) and it has a glass front that leads into the reception. Oh, they give you a little number and you sit and wait while the girl gets ready then she meets you at the lift and go to the room with her.

GL HF!

Hatguy
07-11-12, 23:51
Not so strange if you watch Japanese AV. Many a scene ends with a group nakadashi.Yes I guess so. But if you wanted to experience some sort of STD this would be an excellent opportunity! These two are nice people but I don't think their latest idea is so bright!

KansaiGaijin
07-13-12, 17:33
Been lurking for a while. Thanks to all for the good info.

I have been living in Kansai for over ten years but just recently found the wonders of Tobita so I have been going a bit too regularly the last couple months. Happy to report that the options for gaijin are plentiful, at least from my experience. I usually go in the late afternoon or early evening and haven't had a major problem getting invited in to shops. A few will turn away or avoid eye contact but most have been welcoming. I am a middle-aged white guy.

My favorite so far has been Moe, tall and leggy and thin. Body is better than her face but she is good at her trade. She is on the right side of smoking hot lane as you walk toward the clock. Also, had a nice time with pudding-chan (&12503; &12522; &12531. Others have been good but not as memorable. I have made the mistake of going for cleavage that turned out to be less than advertised. Those push-up bras are deceiving.

A question for the Tobita regulars. Some of the mama san know my face now and call me over when I walk by. Usually, I am doing the stroll trying to find someone new and better. What is the polite thing to say? Or do you usually just smile and keep walking?

Xslikx
07-15-12, 15:31
A question for the Tobita regulars. Some of the mama san know my face now and call me over when I walk by. Usually, I am doing the stroll trying to find someone new and better. What is the polite thing to say? Or do you usually just smile and keep walking?I usually just smile and nod if I'm not interested. I only talk when I'm thinking of going in.

I usually do two or three girls when I go, so the girls that I just fucked, and the mamas for their shop, see me walking around and looking some more and they laugh it off. After making a big production of seeming surprised. Tobita is all business and the mamas there have seen everything. They know you're entitled to spend your money wherever you want.

KansaiGaijin
07-15-12, 17:17
I usually just smile and nod if I'm not interested. I only talk when I'm thinking of going in.

I usually do two or three girls when I go, so the girls that I just fucked, and the mamas for their shop, see me walking around and looking some more and they laugh it off. After making a big production of seeming surprised. Tobita is all business and the mamas there have seen everything. They know you're entitled to spend your money wherever you want.That's what I have been doing as well. With a little "gomen, ne" gesture. But you are right, I doubt they really care beyond wanting the money coming their way.

I have recently had the urge to try two girls in one visit as well. But I am getting old and doubt I could complete the deal the second time without a bit of a break in between. I suppose I could have some fun with a first girl but not shoot, and then go directly to another shop. Going to try that some time.

Plasma
07-17-12, 11:46
Good report Naniwa, thank you.

I'm from north Osaka and not very familiar with Namba, so these directions don't mean much to me. Same goes for the website. The map and directions are largely in Kanji, which is not a Me friendly (I made out McDonald's though). Can anyone throw in a few more landmarks, and / or narrow down the location?

I've been RTFFing, but haven't seen much about mutual interaction: Can I grope freely, get my finger wet, etc? And has anyone gone for the full course, or better yet, the 3P? The damned cartoon on the website got me all worked up, but I'm (literally) socking away coins here to keep my "personal savings" under the wife's radar, so I need to be a bit cautious with my shiny metal; I'd hate to blow it all in an afternoon. How do the girls compare to Tobita? Does choosing their photo off the wall cost a premium? Basically, anyone's experiences there would be great.

Thanks forum.I'm tempted to visit Club Armour myself next time I am in Osaka. From what I can make out at checking out Google Earth. On the main road just west of the bridge where all the bright neon signs of Glico man etc in Shinsaibashi. If you head north on the west side of the bridge on Mido-soji I think, Spotaka is right after the bridge. Turn left into the first st after Spotaka and Club Armor should be on your left, probably about 170 meters after U-turn into the st, just before the Coolabah Bar.

Does anything 50 min onwards involve sex or just tease rubbing on her pussy? Hard to tell on the cartoon description.

Japanda
07-24-12, 19:39
Anyone know a good spot to pick up a nice looking lady in Kyoto, not at a pink spot?

KansaiGaijin
07-26-12, 23:27
Wow, this thread is dead. No mongers left in Kansai? Is there a better place to exchange info? Also, does anyone have some links to Japanese forums or websites that discuss Tobita?

Brief reports:

I was in Kobe and noticed more Chinese massage girls than in the past. I didn't partake but there seemed to be a lot around Sannomiya along the streets around the Ikuta Shrine area. In the past there were always some middle-aged massage ladies around but some of these ones were young and good looking. Maybe just a set up for a bait and switch so careful out there.

I also did a walk around Umeda recently. No action at all around Izumi no Horiba fountain. And there were cops posted around the love hotel area keeping their eye on things. I chatted with one young Chinese girl who offered a massage at 3000yen. I asked about a BJ and she quoted me at 10, 000 and she said she had a place to go to. I said I preferred a love hotel but she declined. I walked away.

I was in Tobita recently. I usually only go to places that give me a very clear dozo welcome but tried a shop that hadn't said anything to me, the girl had just looked at me expressionless. When I walked towards the shop she gave me a batsu sign that it was not OK. So I nodded and walked on. Disappointed, she was totally hot. But I ended up with a sweet young thing at another shop so no big deal.

BobbyClarke
07-27-12, 13:44
I was at club amour about a month ago with a girl called Rio who was by all standards a real trooper. We did the 60 minute course and SHE made sure it lasted the whole time. A very charming and very natural girl.

Anyways, I looked at the website afterwards and noticed on the option menu there is the AF (anal fuck) option going at 10, 000 yen. I'll be going again in about a week or so but before that, I was wondering if there been any takers on that optional menu with stories to share?

Forbidden Kid
08-03-12, 03:17
Good report Naniwa, thank you.

I'm from north Osaka and not very familiar with Namba, so these directions don't mean much to me. Same goes for the website. The map and directions are largely in Kanji, which is not a Me friendly (I made out McDonald's though). Can anyone throw in a few more landmarks, and / or narrow down the location?

I've been RTFFing, but haven't seen much about mutual interaction: Can I grope freely, get my finger wet, etc? And has anyone gone for the full course, or better yet, the 3P? The damned cartoon on the website got me all worked up, but I'm (literally) socking away coins here to keep my "personal savings" under the wife's radar, so I need to be a bit cautious with my shiny metal; I'd hate to blow it all in an afternoon. How do the girls compare to Tobita? Does choosing their photo off the wall cost a premium? Basically, anyone's experiences there would be great.

Thanks forum.Had time this morning to drop by and visit. First time in such a place and first time mongering in Japan. Have to say I am hooked and will forever be disappointed by the services provided anywhere else. To answer your question, exit 25 from Namba, make a U-turn and keep your head up for a Micky D's, then keep walking until you see the huge Spotaka sign and turn left at the immediate intersection. Keep walking and you will see it on your left opposite Club Ruby.

With the girl I had, Hime (unfortunately could not find her in the girls' listing of the website) I could grope as much as I wanted so long as it was gentle, rub her delicates but did not try sticking a finger in there, go 69 and a finger in her ass. I can tell you though that each girl varies and the experience will be different for each person. There is no sex but she will rub you out on the nuru nuru bed with her ass and hands rubbing your little brother. I have not been to Tobita so RTFF but choosing a photo off the wall from 9am to 12am will be 1000 yen extra and from sunrise to 9am 2000 yen.

Have fun! I know I did.

Naniwan
08-03-12, 07:15
Thanks for the follow up. Yeah "Fashion Health" you have to take it a step at a time with what you try, if your Japanese is good enough just ask! . I haven't mongered for a while and I'm trying to tap into some free sources lately.

Saint Of Killers
08-06-12, 17:07
I went to Club Armor myself and had Kaname after all the other girls I wanted were busy (had up to an hour wait)

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=380

No FS (I didn't ask) but gave one hell of a good BBJ and rode me sumata-style until I came.

I know that Milia (http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=293) their top girl does not accept foreigners whatsoever but not sure about the others.

Plasma
08-07-12, 12:40
I was at club amour about a month ago with a girl called Rio who was by all standards a real trooper. We did the 60 minute course and SHE made sure it lasted the whole time. A very charming and very natural girl.

Anyways, I looked at the website afterwards and noticed on the option menu there is the AF (anal fuck) option going at 10, 000 yen. I'll be going again in about a week or so but before that, I was wondering if there been any takers on that optional menu with stories to share?Apart from the AF in the option menu. What does the 2000 yen. 3000 yen and 4000 yen option says? Sorry Can't read japanese or speak.

Meiji
08-08-12, 05:26
Apart from the AF in the option menu. What does the 2000 yen. 3000 yen and 4000 yen option says? Sorry Can't read japanese or speak.Translations:

2000Y- Pink Rotor, Pantsuto (which is 'wearing pantyhose', I believe) , Taking her panties home with you, Cosplay.

3000Y- Vibe, Garter Belt and stockings, urination (I'm assuming her [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112) on you, but not sure) , coming on her face.

4000Y- Swallowing, Using "Power Wand" Massager

Plasma
08-09-12, 11:41
Translations:

2000Y- Pink Rotor, Pantsuto (which is 'wearing pantyhose', I believe) , Taking her panties home with you, Cosplay.

3000Y- Vibe, Garter Belt and stockings, urination (I'm assuming her [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112) on you, but not sure) , coming on her face.

4000Y- Swallowing, Using "Power Wand" MassagerThank you for the translation.

Hatguy
08-14-12, 00:25
Long time all. Unfortunately no report of much substance from me. I went to the happening bar a few times last month but had a Thai trip lined up all of a sudden and had to conserve money for that. The cheapest way to BKK just got cheaper if you fly Peach to Hong Kong and stay a day then Air Asia or cheap airline to BKK.

Osaka stuff: have noticed less Chinese places. Korean too. Disappointing! I won't go to Tobita at the moment sure to finances but its Obon and probably busy as hell there! Perhaps the way forward is happymail and whatever deals you can make direct with girls. I dunno but some are good whilst others leave a lot to be desired.

Hatguy

KansaiGaijin
08-14-12, 13:31
Glad to see some action still goes on. And thanks for the info on Peach.

I have been to Tobita a few more times recently. It is expensive but I like the 'sure thing' aspect to the place. I have also had good picks recently. The most recent was solid 9 or 10. Super hot.

Probably will take a bit of a break from there to save some money as well. But I am thinking to do some mongering in Tokyo soon, have some biz trips coming up.


Long time all. Unfortunately no report of much substance from me. I went to the happening bar a few times last month but had a Thai trip lined up all of a sudden and had to conserve money for that. The cheapest way to BKK just got cheaper if you fly Peach to Hong Kong and stay a day then Air Asia or cheap airline to BKK.

Osaka stuff: have noticed less Chinese places. Korean too. Disappointing! I won't go to Tobita at the moment sure to finances but its Obon and probably busy as hell there! Perhaps the way forward is happymail and whatever deals you can make direct with girls. I dunno but some are good whilst others leave a lot to be desired.

Hatguy

Ataru Morooka
08-16-12, 12:46
Translations:

2000Y- Pink Rotor, Pantsuto (which is 'wearing pantyhose', I believe) , Taking her panties home with you, Cosplay.

3000Y- Vibe, Garter Belt and stockings, urination (I'm assuming her [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112) on you, but not sure) , coming on her face.

4000Y- Swallowing, Using "Power Wand" MassagerThank you very much. I'm new here and I'll move in Japan in a couple of years. In the past I've been in Chinese places around Osaka because my japanese was too poor to manage a real japanese fuzoku. Now that my language skills are enough to manage a conversation I'd love to visit Club Amour. I have some questions though, I need your help because I'd love to avoid mistakes and keep places welcoming gaijin more and more:

- I'm 40, body really hairy but well dressed and just slightly overweight. Is it a problem? I mean, am I too old, too "western"?

- about STDs (chlamydia, gonorrea and alike) , because they are transmitted also very easily by deep kisses and BBBJ, how do you manage that? Are you afraid? Are they common here in Japan? If you're in a relationship, how would you explain "that" to your woman?

- Does Club Amour accept VISA?

- Club Amour, in the system page, has a line, more expensive, . BIRA. COOSU. What is it? The course is explained in a manga at the end of the page. What is it?

- the 90 minutes says SPECIAL X2 LOVE. Did you try it? What is it?

- what is the name of this kind of health? Matto Health? I've been in other health places but it was just a massage with happy ending (BBBJ). What do I have to look for in Manzoku and other directories like that?

Well, I hope to have a nice experience to report here as soon as possible. Thank you for your attention!

Ataru Morooka
08-17-12, 15:37
Hello again, I couldn't wait a replay to my previous post. This morning I went to Club Amour and here I can answer my own questions to all of you.

Well, Club Amour doesn't accept any kind of credit card but I was lucky because City Bank is just few hundreds meters from the Club, if you need money just go back to the main street and turn left, at the corner of the second or third building you'll find the back and its ATM able to accept international VISAs.

Well, I went back, the two man at the desk are polite; I asked if gaijin were ok and they answered positively adding "no sex here". I replied "I know the rules, thank you" in japanese.

I waited few minutes inside a sitting room full of sexy magazines, photos on the walls, tv and cold water dispenser. A man called my number (and°2, given at the entrance) and took me to an elevator where Yume was waiting. The photo on the website seems different from the girl I met but it can be just the special effect used in the photo (air style, makeup and so on).

She took me to a room where she offered cold japanese tea and we talked a little bit. While the bath tab was filling itself we took off our clothes and she made me seat on a small box where she soaped my body, hugged, massaged everywhere and talked about what I like about japanese women and so on. I could touch her body and boops. I asked if I could finger her down and she nodded yes smiling. When the tab was ready we went inside, she gave me a new tooth brush to use and a dark liquid to clean the inside of my mouth, I think against bacteria. Please confirm!

Then we hugged again, kissed and BBBJ. Let me say that she was really good at it and I had to concentrate well so to avoid coming. Then she took the mat and covered it with the jelly liquid seen many times in japanese porn movies. She asked me to lay down face down and then up. It was my first experience with the mat body massage and I won't forget. Ever. I can still feel her body now as I write, such a great experience. I've to admit I made a mistake. My idea was that when I pay for one hour I can come as many times as I want, in the given time. This is not the case, I'd like someone to confirm this. So I let it go and she was surprised saying "oh, so soon!". I asked if we could continue and she said the service is for only one experience. She washed my body again, clean again the mouth with the dark liquid. Chatted a little bit, got my clothes on and this is the end of the story.

Here you have the impression and some questions:

- the girl was really friendly, about the performance I would say professional rather than sensual. The movements, times and situations are somehow scripted. This can be my impression and most probably it is me that is not a great lover, maybe I couldn't transmit enough passion. Actually I was quite anxious.

- about my performance, I misunderstood how it worked. Maybe because last year I saw a website where it was written something like "King course". My japanese friend said that he went there and it was unforgettable, he could come as many times as he could and even change girl during the time allowed (2 hours!). I don't remember the price but today my friend said he remember it was quite expensive.

- about the question on STDs made yesterday, I really think it is quite safe. The general idea is that they really take care about safety, cleaning everything, new tooth brush, dark liquid agaist bacteria and so on. Are those things enough? I don't know but none of my girl friend in the past had any of this acts. And I cannot know how many men my friends had before me!

- she said that club amour is the only mat massage available around that accepts gaijin; I asked why fuzoku act this way and she said two reasons: japanese clients don't like to see gaijin around and japanese girls are afraid we don't know the rules of the game (no sex and so on).

- I asked her what kind of men go there and if I was too old for her. She smiled saying that the age there is from 18 to 70! Many married men go there as a "sport" activity, at 5am some workers go there before going to work (amazing!) and gaijin are mostly from North America, France, England and China.

- the questions are: do you know what is the liquid used to clean the mouth? Do you know if there is a course where you can come multiple times? Are there any other mat place to visit? Once I went to a Chinese place in DenDenTown (now closed) where they gave me a great massage and then we had great sex, complete. Is there anything like that but japanese? Hotel Delivery or something like that?

I think this is all. Thank you for reading, I'll go again next week and try another girl so to confirm the finding. Happy staying in Japan to all of you!

Jp Slicky
08-18-12, 00:58
Its called Listerine and it is sold every where in Japan, I do not monger much in Japan but I always have it in my hotel room when I do.

Ataru Morooka
08-19-12, 14:55
Its called Listerine and it is sold every where in Japan, I do not monger much in Japan but I always have it in my hotel room when I do.Oh, thanks. Well, I know Listerine. I just thought it was something special, just made for "that" occasion, lowering the risks from STDs. Gakkuuuu!

Hatguy
08-20-12, 06:51
Long time since I reported on this place. Since its been a while, and they moved the location, it might be safe to head over there again. Its right there near Izumi no Hiroba now and some might say thats a perfect location because you can try a bit of Nampa luck or rare as hell freelancer girl chances before going there. Apparently their prices are the same as before at Sakutto. Which means you can get a BJ etc for 3990 yen for the 25 mins course. Ill take a chance on it again this week some time and report back. H

KansaiGaijin
08-20-12, 17:40
Long time since I reported on this place. Since its been a while, and they moved the location, it might be safe to head over there again. Its right there near Izumi no Hiroba now and some might say thats a perfect location because you can try a bit of Nampa luck or rare as hell freelancer girl chances before going there. Apparently their prices are the same as before at Sakutto. Which means you can get a BJ etc for 3990 yen for the 25 mins course. Ill take a chance on it again this week some time and report back. HThat TOFTT would be appreciated. Certainly the price is right. But.

I am getting to know the Tobita situation pretty well these days. If anybody needs some info, feel free to ask.

Kansai Gaijin
08-22-12, 05:56
Http://www.muki-mania.com/system.html

No guarantees on foreigners being allowed though.Does anyone have any update on Muki Mania? It looks very interesting.

Do they accept Gaijin? And if so, what level of Japanese is required? I'm pretty much a beginner. Would I have a chance?

Thanks

Kansai Gaijin
08-22-12, 06:00
Http://www.muki-mania.com/system.html

No guarantees on foreigners being allowed though.Hi all,

First time post. Apologies if this doesn't work right.

Anyone have any updates on Muki Mania? It looks very interesting from the website, and I can manage to read many of the options.

Anyone know if they are Gaijin friendly? And if so, what level of japanese is required? With speaking, I'm pretty much a beginner.

Thanks!

MasaIku
08-22-12, 20:05
Was in Osaka this past Weekend, when to Club Amour in the morning had to wait 40 minutes and 5 ques. They did not speak a word of English to me, just a lot of Japanese. They did take out a card in English to tell me no sex. Took the 50 min course for 16000. Was an interesting Nuru experience. The girl was average 5-6. The 30 min option wasn't listed but I did see 7000 at the door.

For this price and what you get, you might want to go with the exotic massage website I read in a earlier post. Same price but for an hour and seems like you get more, locations all over Japan delivered to your hotel room.

Then in the evening around 4pm went to Tobita, most will not accept foreigners, I don't know why. But I heard the Japanese believe foreigners bring sexually transmitted diseases. The middle road has the best young looking women, some were 9-10. Many looked like models, pretties, or motor show girls. Many cosplay, beer girl, cabin, crew, nurse, maid, etc. I found one that accepted someone who spoke a little Japanese and it was a fantasy come true 16000 for 15 mins. The girl was at least a 9. I believe her name was Maria on one of the other houses.

Best time to get there is 4 pm. All the houses are open and there are hardly any other customers yet. The area is completely safe, not scary like some other posting.

Plasma
08-23-12, 14:15
Anyone here tried them?

http://www.a-maihime.com./main.php

The girls look hot.

Meiji
08-23-12, 20:53
Anyone here tried them?

http://www.a-maihime.com./main.php

The girls look hot.I called them earlier this year last time I was in Osaka, but my Japanese wasn't good enough. I think they do accept foreigners though.

Plasma
08-24-12, 11:21
I called them earlier this year last time I was in Osaka, but my Japanese wasn't good enough. I think they do accept foreigners though.That's a shame. My Japanese won't be good enough either. I gather you couldn't get arrange booking due to language barrier.

Saint Of Killers
08-25-12, 02:27
- the questions are: do you know what is the liquid used to clean the mouth? Do you know if there is a course where you can come multiple times? Are there any other mat place to visit? Once I went to a Chinese place in DenDenTown (now closed) where they gave me a great massage and then we had great sex, complete. Is there anything like that but japanese? Hotel Delivery or something like that?

I think this is all. Thank you for reading, I'll go again next week and try another girl so to confirm the finding. Happy staying in Japan to all of you!The liquid is just to get rid of any potential grime and bacteria in the mouth, I don't know the name of it though.

Every course offers multiple shots from what I can see. No idea why you weren't allowed to.

Naniwan
08-28-12, 14:15
The liquid is just to get rid of any potential grime and bacteria in the mouth, I don't know the name of it though.

Every course offers multiple shots from what I can see. No idea why you weren't allowed to.It's called "isojin" http://www.meiji.co.jp/drug/isodine/

LoveShibuyaGirls
08-29-12, 22:08
Based on the pictures, I would say that is a Korean place.

The girls will not look as good as their pictures.

I am pretty sure the way that KDH justifies their high prices with such average looking girls is that it is understood (at least in Tokyo) that you can fuck them and shoot inside without a condom.

Most of these places are only open to Japanese.


I called them earlier this year last time I was in Osaka, but my Japanese wasn't good enough. I think they do accept foreigners though.

Bob Davis
09-02-12, 16:38
Hi all,

First time post. Apologies if this doesn't work right.

Anyone have any updates on Muki Mania? It looks very interesting from the website, and I can manage to read many of the options.

Anyone know if they are Gaijin friendly? And if so, what level of japanese is required? With speaking, I'm pretty much a beginner.

Thanks!Messaged them when they were only Muki Tamago in Umeda, and they accepted foreigners After they expanded, I walked by one of the new shops and it said "Japanese only". Shot them a message, and they said Japanese people only. Not sure if they changed policy since then, but this was a month ago.

KansaiGaijin
09-03-12, 02:44
[/QUOTE]In the evening around 4pm went to Tobita, most will not accept foreigners, I don't know why. But I heard the Japanese believe foreigners bring sexually transmitted diseases. The middle road has the best young looking women, some were 9-10. Many looked like models, pretties, or motor show girls. Many cosplay, beer girl, cabin, crew, nurse, maid, etc. I found one that accepted someone who spoke a little Japanese and it was a fantasy come true 16000 for 15 mins. The girl was at least a 9. I believe her name was Maria on one of the other houses.

Best time to get there is 4 pm. All the houses are open and there are hardly any other customers yet. The area is completely safe, not scary like some other posting.[/QUOTE]Just around the corner from the road with the clock? If so, then I agree that Maria is great. One of my favorites.

CodeX
09-04-12, 14:06
Hi all.

I've read through the forum and it seems Club Amour is the best bet for some fun in Osaka.

I am also really interested in Club Queen in Tennoji (thanks HatGuy). Does anyone have an address for it?

I'll write up my experiences later next week.

Are there any other places in Kansai that may accept a non japanese speaking white guy?

Thanks in advance

KansaiGaijin
09-06-12, 16:39
An interesting experience in Tobita recently. I chose a girl that I have walked past many times and she has always been enthusiastic to get me in. I suspect she is that way with everyone but she, or the obachan, certainly didn't seem to care about my gaijin-ness. Despite the entusiasm, I have never stopped there before as she was just a bit hostess-why for me.

But I had a change of heart the other day and gave her a try. I was right about her looks. A 7 or so. But the interesting thing is that she started with a BBBJ at first without any qualms at all. Then she put on a rubber and we tried a few positions but I asked to finish with a BJ. She said no problem and started a covered BJ but after a couple minutes it was clear that I wasn't ready to shoot (I was a bit drunk actually) so she pulled off the rubber and finished me off bb with cim. I made sure to announce when I was ready to shoot in case she didn't want cim but she just became more eager. So, cim for gaijin in Tobita is certainly possible, and this wasn't one of the scary super old hags, she was probably around thirty and had a nice tight body.

Edosan70
09-08-12, 15:41
Messaged them when they were only Muki Tamago in Umeda, and they accepted foreigners After they expanded, I walked by one of the new shops and it said "Japanese only". Shot them a message, and they said Japanese people only. Not sure if they changed policy since then, but this was a month ago.Sorry for the late post but I was able to get into Muki Tamago in Umeda in early June. I followed the directions on their website but the sign on the door to the place was different. It was my first time in Osaka but RTFF gave me all I needed for MUCH fun on the short visit! Thanks to everyone!

In Muki Tamago, I had Sena. A blonde with a nice mafia tatoo on her back. I went in, the guy gave me my ticket and said he'd have to see if any of the girls would take a gaijin. I speak good Japanese so the negotiation was easy. It was also mid-afternoon on a Friday so it was a little slow. Anyway, Sena came out and took me to a hotel in the area. We chatted, washed up together but not much fun in the shower; then we headed back to the bed. Started out with petting and kissing and progressed quickly to DATY then swap for BBBJ. Once I was standing at attention, she told me to hand her the rubber and on she climbed. Several positions later, my toes curled and then we layed together for a bit. After some chit-chat, we headed back to the shower and then dressed and left. I got my 60 mins and left refreshed. So Muki Tamago does take foreigners but it may depend on their first impression when you walk in the door.

While in Osaka, I also tried a place talked about on the forum (forget the name but it's always mentioned as a gaijin-okay spot). Had a good time but the girl I had didn't do FS but she was okay with the rest. She did have a lot of scars on her arms from either cutting or from an accident as a child. Not sure I'd return to the place unless I got another girl.

Naturally, YMMV but fun is to be had all over Osaka with a little research!

Good luck.

Bob Davis
09-09-12, 16:11
Sorry for the late post but I was able to get into Muki Tamago in Umeda in early June. I followed the directions on their website but the sign on the door to the place was different. It was my first time in Osaka but RTFF gave me all I needed for MUCH fun on the short visit! Thanks to everyone!

In Muki Tamago, I had Sena. A blonde with a nice mafia tatoo on her back. I went in, the guy gave me my ticket and said he'd have to see if any of the girls would take a gaijin. I speak good Japanese so the negotiation was easy. It was also mid-afternoon on a Friday so it was a little slow. Anyway, Sena came out and took me to a hotel in the area. We chatted, washed up together but not much fun in the shower; then we headed back to the bed. Started out with petting and kissing and progressed quickly to DATY then swap for BBBJ. Once I was standing at attention, she told me to hand her the rubber and on she climbed. Several positions later, my toes curled and then we layed together for a bit. After some chit-chat, we headed back to the shower and then dressed and left. I got my 60 mins and left refreshed. So Muki Tamago does take foreigners but it may depend on their first impression when you walk in the door.Like I mentioned, it was strange that the Osaka one is at least open-minded, while the Sannomiya one says specifically,"Japanese Only". It seems that Muki bought out another chain, and the chain before had a Japanese Only policy. I assume this is for their other locations as well, excluding Osaka, but I may be wrong.

KccKcc
09-13-12, 16:12
It's been a while because I've been good. Relatively speaking. Went home for a bit and ended up meeting a horny Korean college girl, but that's another story.

Anyway, I stopped by club amour and had a great time. After they realized I barely spoke Japanese (I'm asian BTW) , they spoke to me in simple English and hooked me up with someone who was available. I ended up with Kaname. She has a nice figure, not super skinny, but really curvy. Nice breasts, but bad teeth. Not black and dirty or anything, just a bit crooked. With the help of lots of lubricant, she gave me a full body to body rub and some interesting play on the blow up bed. Ended with a BBBJ with CIM.

It was a pity that I didn't get to pound her a bit, but from the getgo I could tell that she wasn't a fan of my size (believe it or not). According to the menu, the hour course allows for 2 shots, but honestly, you'll have to run things a bit because the body rub takes up quite a lot of time. I really enjoyed it though; a must try if you haven't already.

I'll definitely go back again, but I'm really curious about muki-mania and happening bars. It's been a while since someone introduced it, but I still haven't seen a report come out for the AF course.

Saint Of Killers
09-16-12, 08:14
Anyone have recommendations for girls in Tobita? My current favs are Yui in "Naruto" and Misa in "Umeya"

Yui is tiny but she looks like Kirara Asuka! Nice perky tits and a fine ass too. She loves it from behind and is generally friendly to talk to.

Misa is probably the best I had in Tobita thus far. She's got a tiny bit of flab on her stomach but her tits are big and nice, and she loves to get slammed hard. Doesn't like kissing though which is a downer, and I asked for BBBJ and she said no. She wouldn't let me DATY either, but as far as the actual sex goes it was fantastic. I think it's mainly her face and technique that gets me going, heh.

If anyone knows of some good choices in Tobita please post them up!

Meiji
09-16-12, 13:22
If anyone knows of some good choices in Tobita please post them up!The time I went there, I saw Saki. I'm not 100% sure of the place, but it was around the corner from the Mitsuwaya store. It may well be "Anzu" (Apricot) , but don't hold me to it. I picked her because she has a pretty strong facial resemblance to JP porn star Yui Komine- very cute, killer smile. She doesn't quite have Yui's body, but she's petite- no tits, if that's important. Service was pretty good- she made some nice sex noises and she followed my lead despite my crappy Japanese, but it was covered everything, and I didn't ask about kissing or DATY.

CodeX
09-17-12, 15:42
I went for a stroll thru Namba, unfortunately Amour was packed when I went so I tried my luck in a few other places (Go Go, etc) with no luck.

I ended up at a Chinese massage shop and boy was I impressed. ₯6000 got me a really decent 50 min massage and HJ.

She let me play with her tits and finger her. Too.

Age 24-26, Looks 7/10, Body 6. 5/10 slim, small tits, Service 8/10.

I went back a few days later hoping for the same girl and ended up with an 18 yo, looks 8/10, body 9/10.

Massage was basically non existent as she just wanted to play with me. NP with me! I was her first Gaijin and she was fascinated with me.

She gave me a clothed body rub, and then an amazing HJ as she sat on me. She let me play with her very nice tits too. Service 10/10.

I'm still keen to try out Amour and others, but more than happy with the Chinese place.

KansaiGaijin
09-17-12, 15:46
Anyone have recommendations for girls in Tobita? My current favs are Yui in "Naruto" and Misa in "Umeya"Here is a good map of Tobita I found recently: http://www.oct.zaq.ne.jp/afabf000/001-wagasanpomiti/001-bangai/tobitasinti-1/08-10-12/tobitasintitizu-2008-10.pdf

Anyone have the time and ability to add some romaji names or a number system or something? I would do it but I am useless at kanji. And at manipulating PDFs.

Back to the question. Recently I like Maria at a shop I think is called Sora. One of the side streets between clockstreet and the busy street. Across from the parking lot. She is young slim, kawaii-type. Really hot.

My fave though is Rui. Sounds a bit like the description Saint of Killers gives for Yui though so I wonder if I got her name wrong. Not sure of the shop name but it is in the first block on the left when walking towards the clock. Does that sound the same K. O. S? She is young, petite but super hot body and she is up for nearly anything as long as it is covered.

Appreciate if you could give some directions for Umeya. Really want a girl with big tits. Hard to find young, slim, big tits and will service a gaijin.

Saint Of Killers
09-19-12, 12:50
Here is a good map of Tobita I found recently:

http://www.oct.zaq.ne.jp/afabf000/001-wagasanpomiti/001-bangai/tobitasinti-1/08-10-12/tobitasintitizu-2008-10.pdf

Anyone have the time and ability to add some romaji names or a number system or something? I would do it but I am useless at kanji. And at manipulating PDFs.

Back to the question. Recently I like Maria at a shop I think is called Sora. One of the side streets between clockstreet and the busy street. Across from the parking lot. She is young slim, kawaii-type. Really hot.

My fave though is Rui. Sounds a bit like the description Saint of Killers gives for Yui though so I wonder if I got her name wrong. Not sure of the shop name but it is in the first block on the left when walking towards the clock. Does that sound the same K. O. S? She is young, petite but super hot body and she is up for nearly anything as long as it is covered.

Appreciate if you could give some directions for Umeya. Really want a girl with big tits. Hard to find young, slim, big tits and will service a gaijin.That map looks hella old, actually. None of the shop names match anything that I've seen the last time I was there (3 weeks ago)

Umeya is 2 shops down from the store that's listed as Hajime on the map. It's in the dead center of the map.

Yui does sound like the girl I had too. I got her name card so I'm sure her name is Yui. There was another girl there that looked just like her but a little taller. Dying to see if she provides good service too.

KansaiGaijin
09-19-12, 23:45
That map looks hella old, actually. None of the shop names match anything that I've seen the last time I was there (3 weeks ago)

Umeya is 2 shops down from the store that's listed as Hajime on the map. It's in the dead center of the map.

Yui does sound like the girl I had too. I got her name card so I'm sure her name is Yui. There was another girl there that looked just like her but a little taller. Dying to see if she provides good service too.Didn't realize the map was so outdated. It is listed as being from 2008, I suppose shops have changed name since then. Thanks for the info on Umeya. I will check that out the next time I am there.

Other area: I was strolling through the Love Hotel area near Izumi no Horiba in Umeda and was approached by some touts so I asked what was on offer. 13, 000 for sex theguy said. I asked about age and looks and they said 25 years old and slim but I wasn't particularly believing him. I politely declined.

Hatguy
09-20-12, 00:44
I went for a stroll thru Namba, unfortunately Amour was packed when I went so I tried my luck in a few other places (Go Go, etc) with no luck.

I ended up at a Chinese massage shop and boy was I impressed. ₯6000 got me a really decent 50 min massage and HJ.

She let me play with her tits and finger her. Too.

Age 24-26, Looks 7/10, Body 6. 5/10 slim, small tits, Service 8/10.

I went back a few days later hoping for the same girl and ended up with an 18 yo, looks 8/10, body 9/10.

Massage was basically non existent as she just wanted to play with me. NP with me! I was her first Gaijin and she was fascinated with me.

She gave me a clothed body rub, and then an amazing HJ as she sat on me. She let me play with her very nice tits too. Service 10/10.

I'm still keen to try out Amour and others, but more than happy with the Chinese place.Where is this place?

Jp Slicky
09-20-12, 11:28
Would it be possible to get a map to this place?

Starting from the station.

Thanks,

Slicky

CodeX
09-23-12, 11:46
Would it be possible to get a map to this place?

Starting from the station.

Thanks,

SlickyFrom Nankai station, head east past Starbucks. Its about 2-3 blocks down that shotengai, Turn right. About a 10 min walk max.

I'm not sure of the name, and Ill try to get some better landmarks for you. Ill check it out next weekend.

Hatguy
09-24-12, 04:52
From Nankai station, head east past Starbucks. Its about 2-3 blocks down that shotengai, Turn right. About a 10 min walk max.

I'm not sure of the name, and Ill try to get some better landmarks for you. Ill check it out next weekend.There are 2 entrances to the arcade there. Which one is it?

Jp Slicky
09-24-12, 08:47
Are you sure it is not Nanba station?

I can't find Nankai staion.

Hat guy you have any idea?

Hatguy
09-25-12, 08:44
Are you sure it is not Nanba station?

I can't find Nankai staion.

Hat guy you have any idea?Theres only 1 Nankai station in Namba. Its got to be there. Just no idea where he means.

CodeX
09-25-12, 10:29
Theres only 1 Nankai station in Namba. Its got to be there. Just no idea where he means.Sorry for the confusion guys.

I don't know Namba that well, and I only have stumbled into there after a few drinks and from a different direction. (Tennoji by foot)

There is one starbucks, right near Nankai station, due East. Walk down that shotengai. (starbucks will be on your right)

Keep walking about 2 blocks and take a right. There is a sign for the massage shop.

Hope that helps!

If not, ill be going there this weekend and can take note of some more landmarks for you guys.

PS. Hatguy, is Club Queen easy to find? Ill drop by there this weekend too if I can find it.

CodeX
09-29-12, 15:17
Ok, I went to Club Queen tonight.

The directions Hatguy posted before are spot on.

The guy scouted me from a distance and I had no problem getting in with zero Japanese.

I got Akane, a 40ish skinny girl. I paid 4500 for a 30 min course.

As soon as she sat down, I asked if it was ok to touch her and she she said sure. (I played with her tits and fingered her) 5 mins later she asked me if she could start her work. NP.

I could tell she was trying to take her time so I had to encourage her to finish me off. BBBJCIM, then she cleaned me off and got us both a beer.

We were only 10 mins in so I asked her to go to work again and she was more than happy.

2 shots later, and on to my 3rd beer, I was fully satisfied.

I had another beer while we she played with my junk.

Looks 6. 5/10, service 7/10 (2 pops)

I was on my way to the massage place when I decided to have a meal at a Western bar.

I got picked up in the bar by a 40yo so I never made it to the massage place. She was a real wild one!

Any way, did you manage to find my massage place?

I remembered while walking East U-turn right just before some kind of hotel. (hope it helps)


Sorry for the confusion guys.

I don't know Namba that well, and I only have stumbled into there after a few drinks and from a different direction. (Tennoji by foot)

There is one starbucks, right near Nankai station, due East. Walk down that shotengai. (starbucks will be on your right)

Keep walking about 2 blocks and take a right. There is a sign for the massage shop.

Hope that helps!

If not, ill be going there this weekend and can take note of some more landmarks for you guys.

PS. Hatguy, is Club Queen easy to find? Ill drop by there this weekend too if I can find it.

Naniwan
10-04-12, 03:12
Nice one, CodeX!

Which bar out of interest? There are a couple of western bars in Tennouji that I haven't visited for a while (and now a HUB in the new Q's Mall shopping center too). Need to give them a visit sometime!

AirNest
10-04-12, 14:22
Hello Everyone,

I've just recently moved here to Osaka and been here for a month.

Anyway, I'm looking to go to Tobita either this coming Monday or Tuesday.

I have backread some of the pages and learned a lot about how to get service over there.

Azure Knight's guide about Tobita a few pages back was real helpful and answered most of the questions I was going to ask. Thanks AK.

I would like to ask for suggestions about which stores give good service and recommendations on hot girls who give great GFE.

Thanks in advance for all the help.

I will write a report about it later next week.

AirNest
10-08-12, 12:03
I had a great time in Tobita earlier. I wrote a long report but it didn't get posted.

Will go back there again.

AirNest
10-08-12, 12:11
Here's my report on Tobita as promised.

Here's a profile about myself. 29 years old. Filipino-American living in Kawachinagano, Osaka. Been here for a month.

I just got back from Tobita. I arrived there at 4:30 PM, the place was easy to find by just following the instructions here on the forum.

I initially wanted to do a lap around Tobita, before choosing an establishment. I started at smoking hot blvd, as referred here (the street with a clock)

I figured that if I was going to pay for sex, there's no reason to check the other parts and decided to stick to smoking hot blvd.

There weren't a lot of people walking around and a couple of cars passing by slowly. There weren't any middle-aged salarymen walking around. It was mostly.

Younger Japanese guys mongering in groups about early 20's to mid 30's. Tobita was pretty quiet today, I was observing the neighborhood and it was just mostly old people walking around.

Anyway, I turned left to smoking hot blvd coming from the Shotengai. I was getting Doozo and Oni-chaaaan! Left and right, maybe about 90-100, I was following AK and Hatguy's advice of walking slowly and smiling and nodding to the Mama-sans and the girls.

I guess the reason main reason was business was pretty slow today as there weren't many mongerers walking around. I was initially debating on going earlier today or going tomorrow night. I decided on going today, since when I went to Namba

To eat out with friends last night, there we're a lot of people running around and I was thinking that even though today is a holiday most of the people would probably be resting up after partying on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. My gamble paid off.

Another factor to consider is that I am Asian and I have been mistaken as Japanese many times before, once no less than AV actress Jessica Kizaki when I attended an event for Idea Pocket last year in Akihabara.

I wasn't even halfway into smoking hot blvd when I noticed this young and cute girl in a Yukata, she could easily pass for an AV star easily a 9. She was wearing heavy make-up, but looking at her facial structure I was thinking that she would still be an 8. Not like some girls, that even heavy make-up doesn't make them attractive at least. I initially wanted to see more girls at first but figured that she might not be there anymore when I get back. I also thought that the odds of getting a prettier girl would be very slim, so I decided to go to her store after the Mama-san said Doozo to me. The Mama-san didn't even ask me any questions and just told me to go upstairs. We got upstairs and she told me to undress while she got the stuff ready. She asked me which course I wanted and I told her I'll go for the 30 mins / 21, 000 yen. She told me that her name was Yuuki and that she is 23 years old. I believed her, she would be 25 at oldest. She was slim and her boobs weren't big but, for a slim girl it would be a liitle above average. Her nipples were a light brown color and she trimmed her pubes not like most girls in AV who have forest down there. Her skin was white and smooth. She started with CBJ while I fingered her and she got wet pretty quickly. We first went missionary and I was able to shoot once. We took a minute break and she gave me another CBJ to get me up again after that she went cowgirl on me. I asked if I can kiss here but she said no, but she told me that I can suck her tits which I did while she was on top and finally we finished doggy-style as I shot my second load just as the first bell rang. I got dressed and thanked her and I told her I'd come back again next time. The second bell rang as I was going down the stairs. I thanked her again and the Mama-san. It was pretty much a good first experience in Tobita.

Looks-9, Body-8, Performance-8. I will definitely go back next time and try another shop and another girl.

After leaving, I decided to continue walking smoking hot blvd. I saw about 2 other 9's and a bunch of 8's and 8. 5's. I also saw about 6-7 girls wearing push up bras, but I can say that 2-3 of them really had big boobs and one of them even had her boobs spilling out, this one was at the start of smoking hot blvd. I highly recommend Tobita, it has the best bang for your buck especially with those whose Japanese is very limited. You see the merchandise upfront unlike delivery health who sometimes use bait and switch, The girls are hot as some poster previously said that they would pass for AV stars, idols, race queens. Most importantly FS is guaranteed, you don't need to ask. That being said it is expensive, but then again everything is expensive in Japan. I will probably indulge in Tobita about once a month or sometimes twice a month if I choose to indulge.

Once again many thanks to all the other posters here for all the help and info, especially Azure Knight and Hatguy.

Josh63
10-09-12, 13:02
[QUOTE=CodeX; 1332542]Ok, I went to Club Queen tonight.

The directions Hatguy posted before are spot on.

The guy scouted me from a distance and I had no problem getting in with zero Japanese.

I got Akane, a 40ish skinny girl. I paid 4500 for a 30 min course.

As soon as she sat down, I asked if it was ok to touch her and she she said sure. (I played with her tits and fingered her) 5 mins later she asked me if she could start her work. NP.

I could tell she was trying to take her time so I had to encourage her to finish me off. BBBJCIM, then she cleaned me off and got us both a beer.

We were only 10 mins in so I asked her to go to work again and she was more than happy.

2 shots later, and on to my 3rd beer, I was fully satisfied.

Hi Codex,

Just visited CQ also. I believe you have the pricing wrong: it is 7500 for the 30 minute course.

Josh63
10-09-12, 14:27
In the past I have visited Sakutto Okusama twice after the excellent Hatguy report (#1278).

When showing up a 3rd time, the place was being redecorated and no one could speak English.

So I was happy to read that Hatguy reported it was back in another place and would report soon on his experience (#1585)

As I was recently in Osaka myself and had not read something yet, I decided to check the place myself.

They have moved to Umeda. Fortunately the website is still the same;

www.sakutto39.com

With some help from google translate I managed to figure out where it was. It is to the east of Osaka railway station. If you can find the WHITY underground shopping town it is easy.

From inside whity take exit number M14, as you reach streetlevel walk east, take the second street to the right. Walk past the third street on the left and it is on the lefthand side.

Take the elevator to the 4th floor and look for a sign 406. That's where it is.

If you have trouble locating it, try entering Hotel Hokke Club Osaka in Googlemaps. It is across the street.

I attach a few photos. First the Whity exit M14, then the street as U-turn right. The entrance is to the left of the DVD place, with the ceiling lights. There is an elevator on the right side.

Now the bad news: they no longer accept foreigners: "Japanese only".

The english speaking guy from the previous place was not there, perhaps he will be other times. (I was there on a Monday afternoon.)

Maybe you guys who do speak the language can try. The prices are still the same (4000 for 25 minutes) and plenty love hotels in the neighbourhood.

Good luck.

Hatguy
10-10-12, 13:14
Back from overseas. Too bad about elcheapo option sakutto. I've been busy with work myself. Its not getting any less busy either. Anyway, enough about hatguy biz! Namba has been interesting the last few months. Just had a few goes with a horny housewife and passed her onto another member here. She changes her details so often that I can't refer her onto others though. He knows who he is! Get her man!

Hope to hear what new options emerge in the Namba area. Especially Chinese or Korean variety. Could be tempted if there is something good. Hatguy

KansaiGaijin
10-10-12, 16:18
Thanks for the Tobita report AirNest. Glad to hear your first visit there was a good one. Careful. That place can be addictive.

I also visited Tobita recently and had some interesting experiences. I went at around 9pm. As usual lots of Japanese mongerers in packs but it wasn't super crowded. Perhaps due to that and also because I go fairly regularly so I think my face is getting known, I was getting a lot of invitations.

Even though I have a couple favorites I wanted to try someone new so I did the stroll for a while mostly around smoking hot blvd and the parallel street.

Some observations: the talent there seems to be getting better recently. I also noticed some hot girls up at the end of the blvd in the section just before the clock. Usually the girls there are not so hot but there were some nice ones all along the blvd.

After a bit of a stroll I found one that looked amazing. Not sure of the shop name. Maybe it was Momo something. Walking towards the clock it is on the right side around the middle of the middle block. When I walked up the mama and girl both smiled but gave me a "dame" sign. Even after I spoke in Japanese and told them I knew the language and the system. The mama kept gesturing with a square shape which I couldn't understand. So I asked again if it was "dame" and they said "hai, gomen". Oh well. I decided to wander around a bit more.

Around 5 minutes later I wandered by the same shop and looked in. There was a different girl, also hot, and she and the mama were smiling and waving me in. So, I went for it.

Th girl's name was Ramu chan and she was very petite but had a great body. Probably late twenties, blond dyed hair and a pretty face. Tatoo on her back. She gave good service. Lots of kissing which she initiated and a good CBJ to start. She has nice but small tits. But she said they were sensitive so I didn't get to play with them much. But we tried a few positions and I finished with a CBJ again. All in all. A good time.

Then when we were chatting after she showed me a laminated set of rules for the shop written in English! It had the prices and explained the system. That the time starts from when you pay, that condoms are required for all activities, that a shower is not available. And it was very well written! I asked if a native-English speaker had prepared it and she said yes, it had been written by a friend of hers. It must have been what the mama san was gesturing about. That they had a written set of rules. It was really not necessary as I was speaking to her in Japanese and already knew the system but you know how it goes here. And I assume that the other girl is not comfortable with foreigners. Too bad as she really was hot. But I will try again.

After that I did something stupid. I decided to try for a second girl in the same night. I am getting kinda old and not so quick on rebound to get things moving a second time without a break but I couldn't resist as there were a lot of hot ones that I saw as I was leaving the area. (Very impressed that Airnest was able to have two goes in a 30 minute session. Ahhh. To be young again!) I wandered around and spotted a very large-breasted one in Hajime on the left of smoking hot blvd that gave me a very clear dozo. I walked up the block and circled back to go to the shop but she was gone by the time I went back. But two doors down, at what may be the shop that Saint of Killers identified as Umeya, here was a large breasted thin girl with a cute face. I went for it. Certainly she was very hot looking. Solid 9 for her face and body. But her service was terrible and added that it was my second go and I needed some special attention, it was a bad choice. Her name was Karin. She started with a mechanical handjob to get me hard which only half-succeeded. Though she did let me play with her tits, which were phenomenal. She slipped on a condom and gave a CBJ for around 1 minute and then asked what position I wanted. I tried a few positions but I wasn't getting close to getting off so I asked her for a CBJ but she refused saying that she could give me a handjob only. I asked about Paizuri but she said she didn't know how. Bullshit, of course. She started a HJ but it was terrible and she looked bored. Realizing she couldn't get me off. I knew the time was about to finish so I told her to just leave it. And I made the excuse that it was me because I had too much to drink. She said gomen and asked me to come back so she could try again. I said "of course" but I won't. To be fair, I probably would have had a good enough time with her if it had been my first go but there was something negative about her character from the start of the session.

Oh well. Lesson learned. Only one go in a night for me.

Other points of interest:

Some random Japanese guy started chatting with me saying it was rare to see a gaijin there and asked my opinion of tobita and if my home country had anything like it.

Contrary to what the random guy said I saw a few other gaijin. Including a group of around 5 middle-aged Europeans being led by a Japanese guy. I have no idea f they got service or if they were even seeking any. Probably just sight-seeing.

Looking for more options around Umeda. Anyone tried anything new? Also, any recent reports about Juso Music? Been thinking to check it out.

CodeX
10-10-12, 17:13
Back from overseas. Too bad about elcheapo option sakutto. I've been busy with work myself. Its not getting any less busy either. Anyway, enough about hatguy biz! Namba has been interesting the last few months. Just had a few goes with a horny housewife and passed her onto another member here. She changes her details so often that I can't refer her onto others though. He knows who he is! Get her man!

Hope to hear what new options emerge in the Namba area. Especially Chinese or Korean variety. Could be tempted if there is something good. HatguyI finally managed to go back to the massage place in Namba. As per my last instructions head past the Starbucks about 3 blocks and turn right just before the Alps hotel. The place is called Raku Raku. The price has gone up to ₯7000, ₯6000 is for new customers, but the massage is great and HJ too. Not sure if they will let you touch them, but they don't seem to mind when I do.

Hey Josh63, you're right, sorry about my false post before, club queen is ₯7500.

How was your experience there?

AirNest
10-11-12, 09:30
Thanks for the Tobita report AirNest. Glad to hear your first visit there was a good one. Careful. That place can be addictive.

I also visited Tobita recently and had some interesting experiences. I went at around 9pm. As usual lots of Japanese mongerers in packs but it wasn't super crowded. Perhaps due to that and also because I go fairly regularly so I think my face is getting known, I was getting a lot of invitations.

Even though I have a couple favorites I wanted to try someone new so I did the stroll for a while mostly around smoking hot blvd and the parallel street.

Some observations: the talent there seems to be getting better recently. I also noticed some hot girls up at the end of the blvd in the section just before the clock. Usually the girls there are not so hot but there were some nice ones all along the blvd.

After a bit of a stroll I found one that looked amazing. Not sure of the shop name. Maybe it was Momo something. Walking towards the clock it is on the right side around the middle of the middle block. When I walked up the mama and girl both smiled but gave me a "dame" sign. Even after I spoke in Japanese and told them I knew the language and the system. The mama kept gesturing with a square shape which I couldn't understand. So I asked again if it was "dame" and they said "hai, gomen". Oh well. I decided to wander around a bit more.

Around 5 minutes later I wandered by the same shop and looked in. There was a different girl, also hot, and she and the mama were smiling and waving me in. So, I went for it.

Th girl's name was Ramu chan and she was very petite but had a great body. Probably late twenties, blond dyed hair and a pretty face. Tatoo on her back. She gave good service. Lots of kissing which she initiated and a good CBJ to start. She has nice but small tits. But she said they were sensitive so I didn't get to play with them much. But we tried a few positions and I finished with a CBJ again. All in all. A good time.

Then when we were chatting after she showed me a laminated set of rules for the shop written in English! It had the prices and explained the system. That the time starts from when you pay, that condoms are required for all activities, that a shower is not available. And it was very well written! I asked if a native-English speaker had prepared it and she said yes, it had been written by a friend of hers. It must have been what the mama san was gesturing about. That they had a written set of rules. It was really not necessary as I was speaking to her in Japanese and already knew the system but you know how it goes here. And I assume that the other girl is not comfortable with foreigners. Too bad as she really was hot. But I will try again.

After that I did something stupid. I decided to try for a second girl in the same night. I am getting kinda old and not so quick on rebound to get things moving a second time without a break but I couldn't resist as there were a lot of hot ones that I saw as I was leaving the area. (Very impressed that Airnest was able to have two goes in a 30 minute session. Ahhh. To be young again!) I wandered around and spotted a very large-breasted one in Hajime on the left of smoking hot blvd that gave me a very clear dozo. I walked up the block and circled back to go to the shop but she was gone by the time I went back. But two doors down, at what may be the shop that Saint of Killers identified as Umeya, here was a large breasted thin girl with a cute face. I went for it. Certainly she was very hot looking. Solid 9 for her face and body. But her service was terrible and added that it was my second go and I needed some special attention, it was a bad choice. Her name was Karin. She started with a mechanical handjob to get me hard which only half-succeeded. Though she did let me play with her tits, which were phenomenal. She slipped on a condom and gave a CBJ for around 1 minute and then asked what position I wanted. I tried a few positions but I wasn't getting close to getting off so I asked her for a CBJ but she refused saying that she could give me a handjob only. I asked about Paizuri but she said she didn't know how. Bullshit, of course. She started a HJ but it was terrible and she looked bored. Realizing she couldn't get me off. I knew the time was about to finish so I told her to just leave it. And I made the excuse that it was me because I had too much to drink. She said gomen and asked me to come back so she could try again. I said "of course" but I won't. To be fair, I probably would have had a good enough time with her if it had been my first go but there was something negative about her character from the start of the session.

Oh well. Lesson learned. Only one go in a night for me.

Other points of interest:

Some random Japanese guy started chatting with me saying it was rare to see a gaijin there and asked my opinion of tobita and if my home country had anything like it.

Contrary to what the random guy said I saw a few other gaijin. Including a group of around 5 middle-aged Europeans being led by a Japanese guy. I have no idea f they got service or if they were even seeking any. Probably just sight-seeing.

Looking for more options around Umeda. Anyone tried anything new? Also, any recent reports about Juso Music? Been thinking to check it out.Thanks KansaiGaijin. It's true, Tobita is all I've been thinking about all week. I'm thinking of going there again either this coming weekend or the weekend after next. If only Tobita was a bit cheaper, I would probably be there every weekend. I also share the same opinion that even the girls near the clock we're pretty hot. I'm planning to get a girl with big breasts next time.

AirNest
10-14-12, 06:43
About to head out again to Tobita in a few minutes, will post a report when I get back. As KansaiGaijin said this is quite addicting and expensive.

I was back reading a about 50-60 pages back and would like to ask about Wedding Bells, the soapland in Kobe. It was mentioned that it was foreigner friendly, anyone had any experiences going there?

About the service, does it include FS? If not, no worries I just want to have a soapland experience.

Thanks in advance.

AirNest
10-14-12, 14:53
hello again everyone. i just got back from tobita.

as promised here is my report. i got to tobita at around 3:45. so i decided to walk around and try other girls and stores. i chose to go on a sunday instead of saturday because i figured it would be less busy. i would recommend going there between 3:00-5:00pm. true enough like last week, there weren't a lot of people mongering. most of them were japanese men aged 20's to mid-30's. i started walking on smoking hot blvd. another reason why i chose to go on a sunday, was because yuuki, said that she was going to be off on sunday. i figured that i might be tempted to go to her shop, instead of trying other shops and girls. the call rate again was between 90-100% as i passed by her shop, i was surprised to see her. she greeted me with a 'hisahiburi' and chatted for a while. the mama-san was smiling as well and they both engaged me for small talk. i told them that i will be walking around for a while and that i will come back later. so i continued walking until the clock, i turned around and started to walk back.

i stopped between 2 stores where both girls were wearing glasses. the 2 girls were both cute so i was kind of confused for a second. i decided to go the store on the right because the girl has bigger tits than the one on the left store, with my back facing the clock. i went in the shop and the mama-san welcomed me. the girl escorted me upstairs. i asked her her name and she told me it's 'iroha' iroha's face was an 8. 5, her beauty was kind of like the 'girl-next-door' with glasses in contrast to the fishnet stocking she was wearing and a short skirt. her body was nice and slender but her boobs were above average, her thighs were a little thick in contrast to the rest of her body and she got an ass which is kind of rare for the average j-girl. i would say that she is probably in her mid-20's. she asked me what course i wanted, i told her that i would go with the y11, 000 15 minute course. she told me that it would be short, and asked if i was sure. i told her yes so she went down to give the money to the mama-san. my goal for this visit was quantity and to search for a girl with good gfe experience. when she got back we both started to undress. she instructed me to lie down while she started to to give me a cbj. after a few minutes she told me that she was going to go on top. before she went on top, i asked if kissing was ok. she told me that lfk was ok, so we kissed for a while while she gave me a handjob. after that she mounted me and she began to ride me. while she was riding me cowgirl i was sucking her tits. there is a mole on her right breast and a mole near the right side of her pelvic area. the first bell rang and i knew that i was not going to be able to finish. so we stopped after the second bell and quickly got dressed. i guess the 15-minute session wasn't enough. i thanked her for her service and she was very pleasant to be with and her attitude was very welcoming and near gfe. as i was leaving, i saw some cigarette burns on her arm. (probably inflicted by her bf / partner) this made me sad, and i remembered one of the posts about maybe 50-60 pages back about some of the sad backgrounds of the women working in the water trade. i once again thanked her for her service and the mama-san and told them that i would come back again. the name of her shop is shou and it is on the left side of smoking hot blvd. facing the clock (it's also a little close to the clock.)

iroha, looks 8. 5, body 8, performance / technique 7, attitude 8, gfe 8. 5.

i decided to walk around a go make a turn in one of the side streets and also to avoid yuuki's store.

i made a turn and decided to walk around for a bit. after a few minutes, i decided to go back to the main blvd. by passing another side street. i was called by a mama-san and as i looked into the store, she told me that her girl has a 'nice body'. her face was cute and she was petite and on the skinny side, for a small girl she seems to have a decent rack for her body type. so up we went to the room she asked me what course i would get. i told her that i will get the 11, 000 yen / 15-minute course. her name is ayami. ayami is probably in her late 20's early 30's. when she got back we both got naked. she got a pretty decent sized rack for her size and body type. (most girls with her body type would surely be flat-chested) her boobs were drooping a little and she has a big areolas. she stared with a cbj, her cbj is pretty good as she got me hard in no time. she went on top, and boy has she got the tightest pussy of the 3 girls i fucked in tobita and her technique was also the best so far. i came within 10 minutes and she was riding me real good. i asked if it was ok to kiss, and she said that light and shallow kisses are ok but no dfk. the bell rang while she was cleaning me up and i was sucking on her tits. we finished dressing up on the second bell and we went down the stairs. the mama-san was probably about 50+ and you could tell that she was also quite a looker back in the day. i thanked the mama-san and ayumi and made sure that i praised her in front of the mama-san. the name of her shop is yoshiwara and it is in one of the side streets perpendicular to the main street.

ayumi, looks 8. 5, body 8, performance / technique 9. 5, attitude 8, gfe 7. 5.

it was starting to get dark so, i decided to go back on the main street. i passed by this store and the mama-san was calling for me, i looked at the store and the girl sitting (face-wise) was easily a 9-9. 5. it was kind of difficult to see how her body type was because what she was wearing pretty much covered here body though. she wasn't smiling and she was looking straight through me. i nodded to the mama-san and smiled at the girl and continued walking on. i was intrigued by her, but my gut feeling was that it might not be a good experience based on her reaction. so i continued walking and stopped by yuuki's shop once again. i remembered one of ak's advice about establishing relationships with the girls, about being a regular and the attitude would improve and maybe evolve to gfe. so i decided to stop at her shop again. yuuki was again wearing the same dress / costume as last monday with a cat on her lap. the mama-san today was probably in her mid-40's. i'm not sure if she was the same mama-san last monday but like the other mama-san in ayami's store you could tell that she was quite a looker back in the day. so anyway, the mama-san welcomed me in seeing earlier that yuuki was familiar with me. we went upstairs and i told her that i was just walking around tobita and looking around. (yeah right!) anyway she asked me what course i was going to get and i told her the y16000 20-minute course. (pretty sure she saw through that bullshit i gave her earlier. anyway we both get naked after she gets back and she starts we with a cbj. while she was giving me a cbj, i asked if 69 is ok and she said ' gomen ne, dame' with the crossing of arms. so i tell her that it's ok and she gets on top of me as soon as i got hard. she started riding me and started slowly and then gradually i started picking up speed as i timed my thrusts against her riding motion while sucking on her breasts as my tongue swirled around her nipples. we kept going as the first bell rang and i was able to cum as the second bell rang again. pretty much the same rating for yuuki with gfe a 6. 5, gfe would have been higher if she's ok with kissing and 69, but it's still overall a good experience.

i'm done with tobita for this month. total damage for the month of october is y59, 000.

Hatguy
10-15-12, 06:30
Great report AirNest. Good to see someone out there experiencing the scene. I can't help but comment on the cost of that though! I would prefer to take my chances with the odd freebie via Nampa than pay that much. Speaking of which, Ill make a report on the appropriate section later.

HATGUY

AirNest
10-15-12, 08:14
Great report AirNest. Good to see someone out there experiencing the scene. I can't help but comment on the cost of that though! I would prefer to take my chances with the odd freebie via Nampa than pay that much. Speaking of which, Ill make a report on the appropriate section later.

HATGUYThanks Hatguy, I've just arrived over a month ago. My Japanese is very basic and unfortunately, Nampa is still out of my reach for now. That will serve as a motivation though for me to learn the language much faster. I have been trying to make "friends" and "language exchange partners" on the other sites mentioned here in the thread, so we'll see how it goes. I wouldn't mind though if you or any other Kansai veterans are going to take me under your wing for Nampa or as a wingman in the bar pick-up scene. With that being said, my next visit to Tobita will probably be around December.

Hatguy
10-16-12, 00:01
Thanks Hatguy, I've just arrived over a month ago. My Japanese is very basic and unfortunately, Nampa is still out of my reach for now. That will serve as a motivation though for me to learn the language much faster. I have been trying to make "friends" and "language exchange partners" on the other sites mentioned here in the thread, so we'll see how it goes. I wouldn't mind though if you or any other Kansai veterans are going to take me under your wing for Nampa or as a wingman in the bar pick-up scene. With that being said, my next visit to Tobita will probably be around December.If you were a paid member I could pm you. Anyway, you don't need Japanese to nampa. Just the courage to do so. Good luck.

AirNest
10-16-12, 08:09
If you were a paid member I could pm you. Anyway, you don't need Japanese to nampa. Just the courage to do so. Good luck.Thanks Hatguy, that will be changed soon. I will be paying the memebership fee later this week so I will PM you then. Once again thanks.

AussieGaigin
10-16-12, 08:32
Thanks Hatguy, I've just arrived over a month ago. My Japanese is very basic and unfortunately, Nampa is still out of my reach for now.I agree with Hatguy, Lack of Japanese is no reason for missing out, and can often work in your favour. Have a read through the Nampa thread, there are lots of clues there.

AirNest
10-16-12, 12:21
I agree with Hatguy, Lack of Japanese is no reason for missing out, and can often work in your favour. Have a read through the Nampa thread, there are lots of clues there.Thanks for the tip, I'll be reading up the Nampa thread then.

Saint Of Killers
10-19-12, 13:41
Hello again everyone. I just got back from Tobita.

As promised here is my report. I got to Tobita at around 3:45. So I decided to walk around and try other girls and stores. I chose to go on a Sunday instead of Saturday because I figured it would be less busy. I would recommend going there between 3:00-5:00pm. True enough like last week, there weren't a lot of people mongering. Most of them were Japanese men aged 20's to mid-30's. I started walking on smoking hot blvd. Another reason why I chose to go on a Sunday, was because Yuuki, said that she was going to be off on Sunday. I figured that I might be tempted to go to her shop, instead of trying other shops and girls. The call rate again was between 90-100% As I passed by her shop, I was surprised to see her. She greeted me with a 'Hisahiburi' and chatted for a while. The mama-san was smiling as well and they both engaged me for small talk. I told them that I will be walking around for a while and that I will come back later. So I continued walking until the clock, I turned around and started to walk back.The price you paid was insane, but awesome report. Thanks for giving some recommendations on other hotties in Tobita.

Homer69
10-19-12, 16:38
Y11K for 15 minutes is insane? That's the going rate as I understand it.


The price you paid was insane, but awesome report. Thanks for giving some recommendations on other hotties in Tobita.

KansaiGaijin
10-22-12, 06:10
Not sure if this was posted but just noticed this story about Juso Music getting raided for providing sexual services.

http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/99081.php

I wonder if Hashimoto will be after Tobita at some point.

Meiji
10-22-12, 12:24
Not sure if this was posted but just noticed this story about Juso Music getting raided for providing sexual services.

http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/99081.php

I wonder if Hashimoto will be after Tobita at some point.Here's a longer version of that same article.

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2012/10/19/bust-of-osaka-strip-club-for-prostitution-linked-to-hashimotos-crackdown-on-sleaze/

It includes this little tidbit which confirms that Tobita might well be targeted:

"The rumors are that adult-entertainment establishments are to be moved toward Kansai International Airport and the Ferry Terminal"

AirNest
10-22-12, 13:23
Here's a longer version of that same article.

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2012/10/19/bust-of-osaka-strip-club-for-prostitution-linked-to-hashimotos-crackdown-on-sleaze/

It includes this little tidbit which confirms that Tobita might well be targeted:

"The rumors are that adult-entertainment establishments are to be moved toward Kansai International Airport and the Ferry Terminal"No! I hope this doesn't push through. It will be a sad day indeed.

Naniwan
10-23-12, 02:12
If he goes after Tobita, get ready for more riots in Nishinari-ku!

Bob Davis
10-24-12, 17:45
I always assumed Tobita was "safe" because the buildings are historically protected or something.

CodeX
10-29-12, 03:26
Stumbled across a new place last weekend.

Finished with my regular MILF on the side (I picked up after Queens) , leaving the LH I noticed GOGO's in Umeda.

(ps, looking to drop her or pass her on)

I dropped her off at her station then went to check GOGO's out, but it was not open yet.

As I was walking out a guy stopped me speaking fluent English, showed me another shop. ₯14, 000 for 40m. He added on an extra 10mins as a bonus so why not.

I got a girl on her first night, looks 6, service 6. BBBJ, full naked, no sex. Over all a pretty average experience.

It wasn't the best, but at least they accepted gaijin.

It was in the same building as GoGo's on the 2nd floor, so it shouldn't be hard to find.

There were a few hot girls I saw that were pre-booked. I'll go back and try for a hottie soon.

Hatguy
10-29-12, 11:42
Pay Jackson his 20 bucks and people can pm you buddy. Then you can pass the chick to whoever you want. LOL. Or don't. Its your choice.

Hatguy will spend his new year in another country again following the trend to bail on this country and the boring as fuck new years! 400 bell chimes or something and nothing to watch on tv except re runs of j pop? No thanks!

H

CodeX
10-30-12, 17:08
Pay Jackson his 20 bucks and people can pm you buddy. Then you can pass the chick to whoever you want. LOL. Or don't. Its your choice.

Hatguy will spend his new year in another country again following the trend to bail on this country and the boring as fuck new years! 400 bell chimes or something and nothing to watch on tv except re runs of j pop? No thanks!

HI don't have membership, sorry about that.

Ill keep her in the books for now. Thinking she might be good for a happening bar.

She already wants me to go for a drink with her friend. Maybe she notices my disinterest and wants to ramp things up.

Sure hope so!

Hatguy
10-30-12, 18:00
I went out tonight. Didn't really mean to but it happened! Its Halloween in Japan. This girl and her 20 yo. Friends. Just fucking hot. Played billiards whilst watching their costumes move off their beautiful bodies. Heaven. Didn't get anything except pleasure from watching.

I love Halloween!

Saint Of Killers
11-02-12, 16:23
Went to Club Amour recently and had Mio for a 40 minute session.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=19

She's definitely not as busty as she is in her pictures, and I think the pictures are from a couple of years ago because she's definitely older looking now, but she's still very good looking. Kind of reminds me of a shorter Moe Oshikiri. She scrubbed me down and then gave me a BJ in the bath, then on to the mat for some lotion play and a great BJ and 69, then finished with sumata, which was fantastic. Would repeat with her because she's cute and friendly, but I'm interested in checking out other girls too.

Going to try to check out one of the following 3 girls:

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=225 Kaon.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=439 Rui.

http://club-amour.com/profile.php?id=320 Riku

Naked Gaijin
11-04-12, 14:11
Anybody here have any experience with Miki from Asian Mystique Osaka?

KansaiGaijin
11-05-12, 18:44
Anybody here have any experience with Miki from Asian Mystique Osaka?Yep. I saw her a couple times last year. She is great! Friendly, fun and sexy.

Naked Gaijin
11-11-12, 04:10
Yep. I saw her a couple times last year. She is great! Friendly, fun and sexy.Cheers! AM is pricey, so good to have a positive review before trying.

Hatguy
11-15-12, 00:51
Hatguy here. Just thought I would let you guys know I decided to take a break from ISG.

Memberships due for another year but that's not so much the issue. I think I'm done mongering. Personal reasons and nothing anyone said or.

Done here have caused this. I may continue travelling but for the most part I think this part of my life is done and dusted.

I'd like to thank the regular contributors for their input. We know who they are. But especially AK! Man on a mission!

Hatguy

Kansai
11-15-12, 01:56
We'll miss you Hatguy.

Thank you for all your contributions to the site!


Hatguy here. Just thought I would let you guys know I decided to take a break from ISG.

Memberships due for another year but that's not so much the issue. I think I'm done mongering. Personal reasons and nothing anyone said or.

Done here have caused this. I may continue travelling but for the most part I think this part of my life is done and dusted.

I'd like to thank the regular contributors for their input. We know who they are. But especially AK! Man on a mission!

Hatguy

CodeX
11-16-12, 15:06
Just thought I would post an update on my experiences on the Kansai scene.

Name: Muki Umeda.

Website: http://www.muki-umeda.com/top.html

Price: ₯11000/40 mins.

Service: BBBJ, HJ. Naked no sex. Delivery health style.

Girls: 6/10-10/10.

Name:?

Location: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&biw=1188&bih=639&q=osaka+umeda&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. R_qf. &bpcl=38625945&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Price:₯3900/40 mins.

Serivce: BBBJ, HJ. Pink Salon.

Girls: 6/10

Name: Queen, Tennoji. (Thanks Hatguy)

Location: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les; &CP=6&gs_id=3n&xhr=t&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. R_qf. &bpcl=38625945&biw=1188&bih=639&q=tennoji&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x6000e756bba647d1:0xb9bca52ce8bf5e61, Tennoji+Ward, +Osaka, +Osaka+Prefecture, +Japan&gl=nz&sa=X&ei=c0SmUJGkJujCmQXPv4GoAg&sqi=2&ved=0CG8QtgM.

Price₯7000/40 mins.

Service: BBBJ. Pink salon.

Girls 6/10. 7/10.

Name: Raku Raku.

Location: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les; &CP=6&gs_id=3n&xhr=t&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. R_qf. &bpcl=38625945&biw=1188&bih=639&q=tennoji&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x6000e756bba647d1:0xb9bca52ce8bf5e61, Tennoji+Ward, +Osaka, +Osaka+Prefecture, +Japan&gl=nz&sa=X&ei=c0SmUJGkJujCmQXPv4GoAg&sqi=2&ved=0CG8QtgM.

Service: Massage, HJ.

Price: ₯7000/50mins massage. 10 mins HJ.

Girls: 6/10. 8.5/10

Lolitacomplex
11-18-12, 12:22
CodeX,

Muki Umeda looks amazing. I definitely want to give them a try when I'm in Osaka in a few weeks. I was browsing the site and clicked on the web reserve form, but it lists 15k for 40 mins, even though the system page lists only 11k. I'm assuming you have to call to get the lower price? Or is that a gaijin tax? Can't call till I actually arrive.

CodeX
11-19-12, 14:47
Lc,

I am guessing they have a sign-up fee and a "choose your girl" fee.

You could try asking for an exception as you are out of town (not sure how this would work?).

Or if you want to try your luck you could just drop by and they might wave the extra fees and possibly get and extra 10mins.

(I'd recommend selecting the girl as there are some stunners there and the one i got was pretty average.)

the guy at the counter doesn't speak English, but there is a guy who works in the building who speaks perfect English.

Enjoy


codex,

muki umeda looks amazing. i definitely want to give them a try when i'm in osaka in a few weeks. i was browsing the site and clicked on the web reserve form, but it lists 15k for 40 mins, even though the system page lists only 11k. i'm assuming you have to call to get the lower price? or is that a gaijin tax? can't call till i actually arrive.

Lolitacomplex
11-20-12, 01:22
Thanks CodeX. Just one more thing. How do I get to the shop? I'm not terribly familiar with Osaka. I read your previous posts but, well, I have no idea where those other places are either.

I will definitely check them out and post a report.

Rsf20
11-20-12, 10:56
Been in Japan for a while but new to the scene. Anyone have any info or experience in Juso / Sakaemachi? I don't really speak japanese well but am asian. I did search but coud not find too much recent info. I've heard from a lot of japanese friends juso / nishinakajima / minamikata is a famous pink area but I can't find too much info at all.

LoveShibuyaGirls
11-21-12, 14:54
Dear Kansai Board Members.

Has anybody ever used this DH service in Kobe before?

http://hyogo.galsnetwork.com/

If so, can you share your experience?

Lurkingdog
11-25-12, 04:54
Hi all. I've been in Tokyo and posting on that board for the past couple of months. I'll be in Kyoto next week for a brief visit and have been trying to do the ISG resarch thing but the Kyoto board seems really dead. This one is active but mostly for Osaka. I'm happy to RTFF but I really can't find very much for Kyoto that is up-to-date. Any suggestions from you would be appreciated.

LD

HelloPanda3088
11-28-12, 08:08
hi,

i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?

i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.

and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?

and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?

sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.

thanks!

Josh63
11-28-12, 18:59
Hi Codex,

Been to Club Queen several times. Experiences vary, but I always manage to be satisfied.

Last time they put up a screen next to my booth, to give me, and a Jap guy getting serviced some more privacy.

I always visit in the afternoon, when they just open, not much choice in girls then, but I've had an 8/10.

Maybe I'll try another place you mentioned.

I'll report in thet case.

Cheers.


Hey Josh63, you're right, sorry about my false post before, club queen is ₯7500.

How was your experience there?

Dendo
11-28-12, 20:59
hi,

i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?

i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.i usually try to pass as japanese by saying as little as possible; i point to the course, grunt and nod my head then take my seat in the waiting room. i am occassionally outed; in some cases i've been asked to leave (with my money apologetically refunded) , other times i've been allowed to stay. the girl almost always detects that i'm not japanese but there's never been a problem by that point.

the only downside of passing for japanese is that i'm often asked by the tencho to complete a survey after the session. some are quite detailed with both multiple choice and essay questions. it often contains questions such as how many times did you cum? did you cum on during mat play? did you cum during bed play? as well as questions about the girl's appearance, service and technique. but then the japanese are known for continous process improvement.

Josh63
11-30-12, 13:59
Name:?

Location:

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&biw=1188&bih=639&q=osaka

+umeda&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. R_qf. &bpcl=38625945&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Price:₯3900/40 mins.

Serivce: BBBJ, HJ. Pink Salon.

Girls: 6/10Codex, I tried to find this place today, but no luck. The link you posted leads to a large building. I walked around it, then visited 1F. 2F, B1F and finally B2F. As you gave no name I tried to spot a sign with the price you mentioned, but never found it. Could you make a more detailed description? Like on which floor? Price wise it seems a bargain, especially if they welcome gaijn.

CodeX
11-30-12, 14:16
thanks codex. just one more thing. how do i get to the shop? i'm not terribly familiar with osaka. i read your previous posts but, well, i have no idea where those other places are either.

i will definitely check them out and post a report.sorry for the slow response, been a bit busy as of late.

the address of muki is in the link i supplied.

scroll down on the system page.

http://www.muki-umeda.com/system.html

HelloPanda3088
12-03-12, 08:22
I usually try to pass as japanese by saying as little as possible; I point to the course, grunt and nod my head then take my seat in the waiting room. I am occassionally outed; in some cases I've been asked to leave (with my money apologetically refunded) , other times I've been allowed to stay. The girl almost always detects that I'm not Japanese but there's never been a problem by that point.

The only downside of passing for Japanese is that I'm often asked by the tencho to complete a survey after the session. Some are quite detailed with both multiple choice and essay questions. It often contains questions such as how many times did you cum? Did you cum on during mat play? Did you cum during bed play? As well as questions about the girl's appearance, service and technique. But then the Japanese are known for continous process improvement.Thanks a lot!

Rsf20
12-04-12, 01:29
hi,

i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?

i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.

and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?

and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?

sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.

thanks!my japanese is very basic at best, but i can pass for a japanese in looks, but i always say i'm foreign first and they usually ask from where. i think it always helps my chances to let them know 1st, as an asian, because they do not care for other asians from non western countries. being american is an advantage in imo cause the japanese are far more critical about gaijin from other asian countries.

LoveShibuyaGirls
12-05-12, 13:14
In answer to my own question.

I had an appointment with Miku from this shop.

It was not very good. I do not recommend this shop. Although Miku was obviously the girl in the profile photos, she was much less pretty than the photos. She was still cute though, just not glamorous like in the photos.

FS was NG. She put a lot of effort into kissing and BBJ, but could not be talked into FS. When I finished I meant to jerk off onto her tits, but by accident I came into her eye. Serves that ***** right.

Altogether not very good. This chain of shops is offering some steep discounts, so I guess you can take your luck with another girl.


Dear Kansai Board Members.

Has anybody ever used this DH service in Kobe before?

http://hyogo.galsnetwork.com/

If so, can you share your experience?

Member #4643
12-07-12, 06:22
I was at the Portopia Hotel in Kobe the other day, and decided to get an escort. I googled Kobe escort and ended up deciding to go with a service called the Secret Door. That is because they promise on their web site the following "Complete nudity, deep kiss, mixed bathing, licking your whole body gently, intercruralsex. 69 different styles of oral sexual-intercourse, Fellationwithout rubber, insertion with finger,"sexal lotion" massage."

Intracuralsex and Fellationwithrubber caught my attention.

I filled out the on line form and about 5 minutes later I got a call from the hotel reception."Japan escort wants to speak with you", said the front desk. I was a bit shocked by the lack of discretion, but since this is legal, and I assume common for Japanese business men, I think I understand. I was put through to a man who asked me if I wanted a girl brought over, and I said yes.

At the prescribed time, someone rings my bell. It is, in fact, a hotel bellboy who introduces me to a normal looking man who, he says, is "Japan escort". I kid you not! The escort service had the hotel take them to my room, even though the elevators are not guarded and anyone could get there discretely (albeit visible to the ubiquitous cameras that are in the hotel). The guy shakes my hand and introduces to me a 30ish year old girl, pretty face, thin but not toned: an overall 6-7. Defintely not one of the three girls I had listed on the internet form as my choices (and, in fact, her foto is not on the site). But, she had a great smile, and was about to give me intracruralsex, so I said goodbye to her pimp and let her in. She speaks almost no English, but then again, who needs English to have sex?

She makes a phone call and the DFK begins. There was no pretense of a massage, although I noticed that she had a bag of oils and other massage stuff. Ultimately, after about 15 minutes of 69, I get ready to put my penis in her vagina, knowing well that the web site states,"We are sorry to tell you that male penis cannot be inserted in the female vagina."

I actually had fingered the girl for a few seconds and despite our difference in ages (I am almost twice her age) , she was sloppy wet. This was a very good sign, in my view, and indicated to me that she was interested in getting laid."No f*ck" she says. I say with the greatest innocence,"what? Why not? Need condom?" She replies,"you have condom"? I say yes, and a few minutes later, I am pumping away. The sex was quite nice, she got on top and did a few other positions and I came once, but despite her best intentions could not shoot another bullet. That, in my opinion, is the down side to scotch mixed with levitra. The up side was that I never went limp, not even for a second.

All in all, this was a surprising experience. I expected a massage and a covered BJ, but got the full package. Cost for 45 non-stop minutes was 20, 000 yen.

EuroSlacker
12-08-12, 08:18
If you're looking for freelancers in Osaka, I've seen been approached by the occasional one on the big street between Ebisucho metro station and Nagahoribashi after 1am (can't recall the streetname but you can find it on google maps). Mi.

Pure in Amerikamura is probably the best bet for a free lay but the venue is very downmarket and so are the women there.

Kobe seems to be the most foreigner friendly place in Japan for mongering that I've been to. You'll get approached for "massages" everywhere in the entertainment district next to the train station.

I've been in company the whole time so I can't provide any pricing info.

YaruSuki
12-14-12, 13:37
If you're looking for freelancers in Osaka, I've seen been approached by the occasional one on the big street between Ebisucho metro station and Nagahoribashi after 1am (can't recall the streetname but you can find it on google maps). Mi.

Pure in Amerikamura is probably the best bet for a free lay but the venue is very downmarket and so are the women there.

Kobe seems to be the most foreigner friendly place in Japan for mongering that I've been to. You'll get approached for "massages" everywhere in the entertainment district next to the train station.

I've been in company the whole time so I can't provide any pricing info.I agree with Pure. My experience in Osaka has been to club Friday and / or Saturday (depending on your intensions) and pay for love on Sunday if no luck. Girls are plentiful and cute.

Bob Davis
01-03-13, 16:35
Strolled into Tobita today thinking it may not be crowded, since it's new years. Wrong. Packed at 3 pm. And it seemed that most of the hot girls were on vacation. Despite being a white boy is a sea full of asians, still had about a 40% hit rate. Only had one problem where Mama-san sad it was 16, 000 (usual is 11, 000/15 min) and I told her no wonder her girl is available, she's 5000 yen more than any other shop. She brought it down to 11, 000, but the damage was done, so I moved on. Found a cute cabin attendant. Well, not sure if she was a REAL cabin attendant, but I don't see why she'd lie. She was about a 7, but very energetic. Went upstairs, chatted for a bit, then went to CBJ, then doggie, then the beast with two backs to finish. Overall, good service. This was on the clock street, which seemed to have the best, though there were some good ones one street to the right, facing the clock. Anything to the right of the main street had girls who looked like they worked in the Tokugawa era.

Also, asked if I could finish on her face. Got a very sudden, "dame yooooo". Oh well, gotta try, lol

Metabo
01-11-13, 23:28
Bob, kudos on your recent excursion (NYs day no less!) to Tobita. Hands down happiest place on earth. Your post got me thinking. About facials. I really have a strong to desire to ejaculate my load on a playmate's face. Does anyone in this forum have any advice for me? For example, does anyone know if the belles over at Club Queen allow such fun? Speaking of Club Queen, dies anyone know of ANY other places where a gentleman can take a load off such as the arrangement at C. Q?

Fitnfun
01-25-13, 17:07
Thank you for one of the best reports I have read on this site. I have learnt a lot and will do the same for fellow mongers.

Saint Of Killers
02-10-13, 01:38
Went to Yanneko twice over the past 3 months to see what the action is outside of Club Amour and Tobita. FYI this place is just for making out / HJ / BJ only so don't expect FS here. I haven't asked but you might get lucky, who knows. Also, you need Japanese to get service here, no two ways about it. I'm half-Japanese so it's easy for me to.

Link: http://yanneko1.com/

First girl I had was named Persia (http://yanneko1.com/galData1480.html)

Body: 8.

Face: 6.

Service: 5.

She just kind of laid there while I went DATY but didn't seem into it. Didn't particularly like her attitude.

Second girl was Momoiro (http://yanneko1.com/galData3766.html)

Body: 9.

Face: 9.

Service: 9.

She's listed as one of the premium girls so she's more expensive than the regular ones, of course. However she was way more into her work and a lot friendlier. The overall service was also fantastic! She was very flirty and playful and let me pop twice compared to Persia who said it was the "rules" that only one pop was allowed (which is a lie, of course).

Persia was around 18, 000 yen for 60 minutes and Momoiro was 25, 000 for 70 minutes. The prices here are different than on the site because if you reserve a girl they charge you more, and if you're a first-timer then you gotta pay that fee as well. TBH I'd rather pay the extra for way better service but there are probably a ton of girls who are non-Premium who are just as good.

JapanMonkey
03-03-13, 10:56
I tried to find the place which CodeX talked about (with the 3800 yen BJ service). The only information that I knew was the building, the floor (B1F) and the price, since nobody knew the name of the place.

I found some massage houses and one of them had, among many other prices in the menu, this 3800 for 40 minutes of &39640; &32026; &12450; &12525; &12510; &12458; &12452; &12523; &12510; &12483; &12469; &12540; &12472; &12288; (Massage with aromatic oil. High level). I`m sorry to inform, but looking at the place (very small, curtains separating the massage beds) I assumed that this was the wrong place. The name of the place was &21271; &20140; &12288; (Peking) and 3 other Kanjis something-something-IN, but the name is very small in the middle of the banner.

I am sorry guys for not entering (and bringing this info for everybody) , but I have a girlfriend home, so I can't risk coming back home smelling like aroma oil (in case it is just massage). If any of you guys wants to try out, it is really on the &31532; &65298; &12499; &12523; &12288; (2nd building from a serie of 4, south of JR Osaka).

JapanMonkey
03-03-13, 12:44
I tried to find the place suggested by CodeX, with unknown name and 3800 for a BJ. On the B1F from the Dai 2 Building there is a massage parlor named Peking (&21271; &20140; &65289; which offers many different massages, including one that costs 3800, named &39640; &32026; &12450; &12525; &12510; &12458; &12452; &12523; &12510; &12483; &12469; &12540; &12472; . I didn't go in. The place looks too small for any other service beside massage (there are curtains separating massage beds!). Maybe this is the wrong place.

If any adventurer wants to go in there and ask for this service to see what happens, good luck. I have a girlfriend home, so I cannot come back home smelling like aroma oil! Sorry guys.

JapanMonkey
03-03-13, 13:17
I tried to find the place suggested by CodeX, with BJ for 3800. I'm not sure if it is it, but on the B1 floor of the Dai 2 Building (suggested by CodeX on his map) there is a massage parlor with a banner stating their prices. There is indeed a 3800 service associated to Aroma oil massage. High level (&39640; &32026; &12450; &12525; &12510; &12458; &12452; &12523; &12510; &12483; &12469; &12540; &12472; &12288; &65289; , but I didn't feel like going in. The place is too small, with something like 5 of those massage chairs separated by curtains. I am almost sure that paying that price, in this place, what I am going to receive is a good old massage with aroma, without happy endings.

There is also the possibility that (A). This is not the place which he talked about or (B) the appearances are deceiving, and indeed when the curtains close those girls start sucking.

Any brave warrior that feels up to the task, please step forward. In worst case, you will go home more relaxed and smelling good (and 3800 short).

CodeX
03-08-13, 16:34
I tried to find the place suggested by CodeX, with BJ for 3800. I'm not sure if it is it, but on the B1 floor of the Dai 2 Building (suggested by CodeX on his map) there is a massage parlor with a banner stating their prices. There is indeed a 3800 service associated to Aroma oil massage. High level (&39640; &32026; &12450; &12525; &12510; &12458; &12452; &12523; &12510; &12483; &12469; &12540; &12472; &12288; &65289; , but I didn't feel like going in. The place is too small, with something like 5 of those massage chairs separated by curtains. I am almost sure that paying that price, in this place, what I am going to receive is a good old massage with aroma, without happy endings.

There is also the possibility that (A). This is not the place which he talked about or (B) the appearances are deceiving, and indeed when the curtains close those girls start sucking.

Any brave warrior that feels up to the task, please step forward. In worst case, you will go home more relaxed and smelling good (and 3800 short).Sorry for not replying sooner!

I've been away for a bit and since I've been back, I've been lucky with freebees.

Let me try again for the BJ place.

I tried twice to submit the google map locations, not sure why they are not working, either my fault or the website changes things up.

Anyway let me try giving some directions.

Look up Hotel Hokke Club Osaka on google.

Look at the map, it is due West of it across the main street. (I think its Shin-Midosugi? Sorry but my Kanji sucks)

You will see a Y intersection due west of the Hotel, it is right there.

This link may work.

http://www.expedia.co.nz/Osaka-Hotels-Hotel-Hokke-Club-Osaka.h4489310.Hotel-Information

The girls there are average but they are Japanese.

Hope you can find the place. Third time lucky!

Anyway around that area are quite a few places, I've had quite a few smiles from girls standing outside their establishments, so I am sure if you try you can find some new places for us!

If all else fails, Muki-umeda is fantastic, a bit more $ but worth it in everyway.

Sakaisuji
03-11-13, 04:52
If you read the Tokyo Reporter sometimes then you might have seen an article about maid cafe's offering extra services. In Nipponibashi near Ebischo station there is a maid of JK type place where you pay 3000 yen to share a futon with a pretty girl for talking. According to the Tokyo Reporter there may be "extras" for a price. I saw the club on the 4th floor of a building located next to The Softmap near the Mr Donut. It was open on Sunday at about 5:00. There is a DVD shop that sells uncensored DVDS on the 3rd floor. It looked very clean and there were nice red futons, heart pillows and a curtain that provides privacy. It might be best to leave your credit cards at home to avoid being scammed.

Sakaisuji
03-12-13, 08:59
If you read the Tokyo Reporter sometimes then you might have seen an article about maid cafe's offering extra services. In Nipponibashi near Ebischo station there is a maid of JK type place where you pay 3000 yen to share a futon with a pretty girl for talking. According to the Tokyo Reporter there may be "extras" for a price. I saw the club on the 4th floor of a building located next to The Softmap near the Mr Donut. It was open on Sunday at about 5:00. There is a DVD shop that sells uncensored DVDS on the 3rd floor. It looked very clean and there were nice red futons, heart pillows and a curtain that provides privacy. It might be best to leave your credit cards at home to avoid being scammed.It's near what used to be a Softmap. It's across the street from the Sony shop.

Sakaisuji
03-15-13, 12:21
I've been there twice on the same day of the week and at the same time. And had the same woman twice. I'd like to try another, but don't want to make any enemies. It looks like there are 3 there. If I keep seeing the same one I might be able to train her, but one of the others might have better skills of breasts. Does the staff change later at night or on weekends?

Also has anyone tried any of the 2 shot clubs near Banana Hall? It's in Umeda behind the Tsutaya. You walk down the street next to Tsutaya, past the liquor shop on the right and then a small parking lot. The building next to the parking lot has one or to shops in it. Then dircetly across from Banana Hall there are one or two in a building mixed with snack bars.

Sakaisuji
03-17-13, 10:14
I've been there twice on the same day of the week and at the same time. And had the same woman twice. I'd like to try another, but don't want to make any enemies. It looks like there are 3 there. If I keep seeing the same one I might be able to train her, but one of the others might have better skills of breasts. Does the staff change later at night or on weekends?

Also has anyone tried any of the 2 shot clubs near Banana Hall? It's in Umeda behind the Tsutaya. You walk down the street next to Tsutaya, past the liquor shop on the right and then a small parking lot. The building next to the parking lot has one or to shops in it. Then dircetly across from Banana Hall there are one or two in a building mixed with snack bars.I sure didn't get off to a good start here. I've posted old names of locations twice and I spelled question wrong. It's not Banana Hall any more. It's Osaka Asako. The BJ place is on the 2nd floor and cost 7, 500 yen for 20 min. If I can muster up some courage I'll try going there in the next week or 10 days.

Sakaisuji
03-19-13, 09:56
And there answer was of course not!

JapanMonkey
03-22-13, 01:32
Ok. According to your description it is on the opposite side of the hotel (hotel to one side, station dividing, Y to the other). Being at the Y (easy to find, very good idea to use the Y as example!) , would it be at the Y's head or at the Y trunk? Anyway, I will explore the entire "letter" next time I go there!

Azure Knight
03-22-13, 09:42
This board has never been that active to begin with, but it seems like Kansai in general is slumping as of late. What's going on?

As far as I can tell, this is where we stand.

Pay options. Tobita is still one of the best bets. Still an issue of whether or not they'll accept you, but try to look nice and go during the slow times and you'll have a better shot. Other options include Club Queen, Muki-Umeda, and the BJ place CodeX found. Incall options have really taken a beating since the Chinese joints packed up and left. If your Japanese skills are passable you can try your luck with a DH place. Last I checked the Korean services gave FS and were more foreigner friendly, but I don't know if that's changed recently.

Freelancers. There have been random reports of sightings around the Izumi no Hiroba in Umeda, Ebisucho / Nagahoribashi, and maybe Shinsaibashi / Amemura. If you want to go virtual use the deai sites happymail, wakuwaku, and asobo. All of them require points you buy to send messages and view profiles. They're all a crap shoot. Not so much scammers, but the quality and the willingness to meet foreigners wildly varies. I've used happymail and wakuwaku with some degree of success, but not asobo yet. Every Japanese person seems to be on Line these days and I've heard there are deai deals that go down but personally I don't use it all that much so I have no idea.

Freebies. Club Pure in Osaka. The Hub in Umeda, although most Hubs are pretty good. Captain Kangaroo in Umeda can also be good depending on the night. The Shinsaibashi area. Anywhere depending on how good your pick-up game is. Though times have changed and now we have to work a bit harder for it, at least compared to before.

Meeting girls online. Mixi used to be a goldmine. It's lost a lot of its former glory, but there are still some scraps left there if you're willing to throw some hooks out. Most Japanese people have officially migrated to Facebook, and if there's a good way to meet girls off that I don't know it yet. Some iPhone apps include Skout and Blendr. I hooked up with one girl off Skout, am currently chatting with one (she's long-distance, so I have almost no hopes for this one) and was talking with another one before she quit. I have yet to actually be able to initiate a conversation with anyone on Blendr. There's Tagged which supposedly has a good Filipina representation, but I have never had any success with it. Then there's the regular friend-making sites if you want to try a more classic approach.

Am I missing anything?

Sakaisuji
03-22-13, 22:33
This board has never been that active to begin with, but it seems like Kansai in general is slumping as of late. What's going on?

As far as I can tell, this is where we stand.

Pay options. Tobita is still one of the best bets. Still an issue of whether or not they'll accept you, but try to look nice and go during the slow times and you'll have a better shot. Other options include Club Queen, Muki-Umeda, and the BJ place CodeX found. Incall options have really taken a beating since the Chinese joints packed up and left. If your Japanese skills are passable you can try your luck with a DH place. Last I checked the Korean services gave FS and were more foreigner friendly, but I don't know if that's changed recently.

Freelancers. There have been random reports of sightings around the Izumi no Hiroba in Umeda, Ebisucho / Nagahoribashi, and maybe Shinsaibashi / Amemura. If you want to go virtual use the deai sites happymail, wakuwaku, and asobo. All of them require points you buy to send messages and view profiles. They're all a crap shoot. Not so much scammers, but the quality and the willingness to meet foreigners wildly varies. I've used happymail and wakuwaku with some degree of success, but not asobo yet. Every Japanese person seems to be on Line these days and I've heard there are deai deals that go down but personally I don't use it all that much so I have no idea.

Freebies. Club Pure in Osaka. The Hub in Umeda, although most Hubs are pretty good. Captain Kangaroo in Umeda can also be good depending on the night. The Shinsaibashi area. Anywhere depending on how good your pick-up game is. Though times have changed and now we have to work a bit harder for it, at least compared to before.

Meeting girls online. Mixi used to be a goldmine. It's lost a lot of its former glory, but there are still some scraps left there if you're willing to throw some hooks out. Most Japanese people have officially migrated to Facebook, and if there's a good way to meet girls off that I don't know it yet. Some iPhone apps include Skout and Blendr. I hooked up with one girl off Skout, am currently chatting with one (she's long-distance, so I have almost no hopes for this one) and was talking with another one before she quit. I have yet to actually be able to initiate a conversation with anyone on Blendr. There's Tagged which supposedly has a good Filipina representation, but I have never had any success with it. Then there's the regular friend-making sites if you want to try a more classic approach.

Am I missing anything?Hello, I always enjoy reading your reports.

Where are the freelancers located in Shinsaibashi / Amemura?

There are many freelancers in Tennoji in the underground between the jr station and the park. The majority of them aren't young and attractive. There are also some in the small side streets on the McDonalds side. From the station cross the street at the McDonalds turn left then right and walk under the covered shopping street until you come to the 7-11. If U-turn right 1 block after it you'll find a lone love hotel and a few street walkers during the evening.

Nitr0
04-01-13, 04:18
This board has never been that active to begin with, but it seems like Kansai in general is slumping as of late. What's going on?

As far as I can tell, this is where we stand.

Pay options. Tobita is still one of the best bets. Still an issue of whether or not they'll accept you, but try to look nice and go during the slow times and you'll have a better shot. Other options include Club Queen, Muki-Umeda, and the BJ place CodeX found. Incall options have really taken a beating since the Chinese joints packed up and left. If your Japanese skills are passable you can try your luck with a DH place. Last I checked the Korean services gave FS and were more foreigner friendly, but I don't know if that's changed recently.

Freelancers. There have been random reports of sightings around the Izumi no Hiroba in Umeda, Ebisucho / Nagahoribashi, and maybe Shinsaibashi / Amemura. If you want to go virtual use the deai sites happymail, wakuwaku, and asobo. All of them require points you buy to send messages and view profiles. They're all a crap shoot. Not so much scammers, but the quality and the willingness to meet foreigners wildly varies. I've used happymail and wakuwaku with some degree of success, but not asobo yet. Every Japanese person seems to be on Line these days and I've heard there are deai deals that go down but personally I don't use it all that much so I have no idea.

Freebies. Club Pure in Osaka. The Hub in Umeda, although most Hubs are pretty good. Captain Kangaroo in Umeda can also be good depending on the night. The Shinsaibashi area. Anywhere depending on how good your pick-up game is. Though times have changed and now we have to work a bit harder for it, at least compared to before.

Meeting girls online. Mixi used to be a goldmine. It's lost a lot of its former glory, but there are still some scraps left there if you're willing to throw some hooks out. Most Japanese people have officially migrated to Facebook, and if there's a good way to meet girls off that I don't know it yet. Some iPhone apps include Skout and Blendr. I hooked up with one girl off Skout, am currently chatting with one (she's long-distance, so I have almost no hopes for this one) and was talking with another one before she quit. I have yet to actually be able to initiate a conversation with anyone on Blendr. There's Tagged which supposedly has a good Filipina representation, but I have never had any success with it. Then there's the regular friend-making sites if you want to try a more classic approach.

Am I missing anything?Nice informative post!

I have just a bit to add.

Pay options: Club-Amour (http://club-amour.com/top.php) in Shinsaibashi, which has been detailed before, is also pretty good. I think I might try to their 3P option sometime, as that's probably something I would likely never get without paying. Ha.

Freebies: The Blarney Stone ("Irish" pub) in Shinsaibashi seems to attract some gaijin hunters. I had success there recently.

Sam and Dave Umeda (dance club) is another option and is open to 5 a. M. On weekends. The crowd in general does not seem overly interested in foreigners (white guys) , but I managed to take a girl home last time I went.

Question: Does anyone know of any happening bars (aka swingers' bars) in Osaka? Hatguy has detailed his experiences at one in the past, and I'd be interested in trying my luck at one. I understand the reluctance to share this info publicly, but if someone would be so kind as to PM me, I can assure you that I won't pass on the info to anyone else, won't mention that I came on someone's recommendation, and certainly won't break the Wa (have lived here for 8 years and speak business-level Japanese).

Jukujo Lover
04-03-13, 01:25
I visited Tobita Shinchi with a friend on Friday for the first time in several years and found the natives very friendly. The two of us got there at about 5 pm. Overcast skies and very few other punters on the streets. We (mid 40s white guys in suits) had well over a 90% hit rate with the mamas and girls very interested in doing business. We picked 2 shops more or less next to each other. The bill of fare is CBJ and CFS. 16K for 20 minutes. 21K for 30 minutes, clean tatami rooms and overall good attitude. Both girls were early 20s and very good looking. The girl quality on display was almost uniformly excellent. Definitely an upgrade over my last visit. Not a single complaint.

Sakaisuji
04-04-13, 23:24
I've visited CQ 3 times. The first two I had the same woman and the same experience. I spent about 25 minutes working on her breasts and she spent 5 on me. This time I requested a new woman. The difference was ASTOUNDING! This woman went to work after about 7 or 8 minutes and treated me like a king. She was very pleasant and chatty afterwards.

The only negative was they really clamp or squeeze my member when I get near cumming and it turns what could be a fabulous event into a mediocre or average one.

I left Amour with a bruise.

The wondeful woman had a bottle of gel in her bag. I'm going to try and get her to give me a heavenly handjob and a ball massage next time.

I hope it's ok with her!

I really want to find a place that specializes in handjobs, but I guess I've got to find a J-guy to help me.

Metabo
04-13-13, 00:09
I've visited CQ 3 times. The first two I had the same woman and the same experience. I spent about 25 minutes working on her breasts and she spent 5 on me. This time I requested a new woman. The difference was ASTOUNDING! This woman went to work after about 7 or 8 minutes and treated me like a king. She was very pleasant and chatty afterwards.

The only negative was they really clamp or squeeze my member when I get near cumming and it turns what could be a fabulous event into a mediocre or average one.

I left Amour with a bruise.

The wondeful woman had a bottle of gel in her bag. I'm going to try and get her to give me a heavenly handjob and a ball massage next time.

I hope it's ok with her!

I really want to find a place that specializes in handjobs, but I guess I've got to find a J-guy to help me.I too am looking for a good place to get a decent handjob!

As for CQ. I am impressed. How did you go about asking to change girls? I have gotten some real sweeties there but also some real dogs. End result is usually the same, but it would be good to know how to go about mixing it up.

Sakaisuji
04-13-13, 23:33
I too am looking for a good place to get a decent handjob!

As for CQ. I am impressed. How did you go about asking to change girls? I have gotten some real sweeties there but also some real dogs. End result is usually the same, but it would be good to know how to go about mixing it up.I can't really speak Japanese. I asked to change and he said they didn't have any young girls and I said it's ok. Then a new woman came with her work bag. I'll probably go next week and I'll let you know how it goes.

I really need to scout around Juso and Nishinakajima-minamikata (on the Midosuji line Umeda-Nakatsu-Nishinakajima-Minamikata-Shin Osaka) If you exit on the Hankyu railway side and make a circle around the station there are a few places there. On he side street right next to the station and two or three streets from the tracks on the other side. When you walk down the street next to the tracks cross them at the first rail crossing. Don't cross that street because there's nothing on that side.

Metabo
04-14-13, 12:29
Maybe a dumb question for the gentlemen of this forum, but I am wrestling with my conscience. Like all of you, I need some head and a good handy from time to time. It shouldn't be that much to ask, but the mrs. Is not keen. Hence my visits to the establishments of Tobita and more recently, Club Queen. My question for you all is not an ethical one, but a practical one:

Should I wrap a condom on old boy Johnson whilst getting head at CQ? It certainly lessens the experience, but I don't want to contract anything and give it to my partner. I am not even sure if the ladies down there would be okay with such a strategy. Sakaisuji. What are your thoughts?


I can't really speak Japanese. I asked to change and he said they didn't have any young girls and I said it's ok. Then a new woman came with her work bag. I'll probably go next week and I'll let you know how it goes.

I really need to scout around Juso and Nishinakajima-minamikata (on the Midosuji line Umeda-Nakatsu-Nishinakajima-Minamikata-Shin Osaka) If you exit on the Hankyu railway side and make a circle around the station there are a few places there. On he side street right next to the station and two or three streets from the tracks on the other side. When you walk down the street next to the tracks cross them at the first rail crossing. Don't cross that street because there's nothing on that side.

Sakaisuji
04-16-13, 04:08
Maybe a dumb question for the gentlemen of this forum, but I am wrestling with my conscience. Like all of you, I need some head and a good handy from time to time. It shouldn't be that much to ask, but the mrs. Is not keen. Hence my visits to the establishments of Tobita and more recently, Club Queen. My question for you all is not an ethical one, but a practical one:

Should I wrap a condom on old boy Johnson whilst getting head at CQ? It certainly lessens the experience, but I don't want to contract anything and give it to my partner. I am not even sure if the ladies down there would be okay with such a strategy. Sakaisuji. What are your thoughts?I always keep a bottle of Listerine in my bag. I use it to freshen my breath and give myself a rub down after leaving CQ. I just pour a little in the palm of my hand and rub it in. You can get good coverage without all the mess of soap and water. It's just something to hold me over until I can get a good shower. I haven't tried Tobita, yet. But I suppose I'll get a small bottle of Witch Hazel from Sony Plaza to use if I go there. It's probably the best thing, but easy to forget.

Sakaisuji
04-20-13, 03:33
http://www.tekoki-tengoku.com/price/area4-osaka.html

Azure Knight
04-21-13, 09:43
Where are the freelancers located in Shinsaibashi / Amemura?Dunno, sorry. I've heard rumors and talk but I've never actually seen one there. But I rarely go to that area and the few times I do I'm not actively looking.

Azure Knight
04-21-13, 09:49
I have never actually been to CQ. I never really knew where it was but I kind of accidentally found it while escorting a lovely young woman to a LH in Umeda. I'm sort of curious about giving it a try now.


Question: Does anyone know of any happening bars (aka swingers' bars) in Osaka? Hatguy has detailed his experiences at one in the past, and I'd be interested in trying my luck at one. I understand the reluctance to share this info publicly, but if someone would be so kind as to PM me, I can assure you that I won't pass on the info to anyone else, won't mention that I came on someone's recommendation, and certainly won't break the Wa (have lived here for 8 years and speak business-level Japanese).There's quite a few actually. Check out the website mabe-navi. Com for a listing.

I wouldn't consider a happening bar an option because you most likely aren't going to be able to get in without a Japanese date accompanying you. Even if you have one there's really not telling what will happen once you're there (thus the name happening bar). I've gone on nights where it was packed with people and nothing exciting happened, and nights where there were only a handful of couples but everyone swapped. You pretty much have to find a girl who is willing / interested in going, and those aren't exactly common.

Sakaisuji
04-21-13, 12:07
I have never actually been to CQ. I never really knew where it was but I kind of accidentally found it while escorting a lovely young woman to a LH in Umeda. I'm sort of curious about giving it a try now.

There's quite a few actually. Check out the website mabe-navi. Com for a listing.

I wouldn't consider a happening bar an option because you most likely aren't going to be able to get in without a Japanese date accompanying you. Even if you have one there's really not telling what will happen once you're there (thus the name happening bar). I've gone on nights where it was packed with people and nothing exciting happened, and nights where there were only a handful of couples but everyone swapped. You pretty much have to find a girl who is willing / interested in going, and those aren't exactly common.There is a Club Queen near the Santa or Christmas Hotel, but the one I mentioned is in Tennoji. I'm curious about the two clubs near the Nobunaga-shoten in the Hankyu-Higashi Dori shopping street. They are in the little alley next to the drug store near the crossing.

Be careful walking around that area. I saw one fellow being pushed around on the side walk. He had to get help from a worker at Tullys.

Metabo
04-26-13, 15:14
I always keep a bottle of Listerine in my bag. I use it to freshen my breath and give myself a rub down after leaving CQ. I just pour a little in the palm of my hand and rub it in. You can get good coverage without all the mess of soap and water. It's just something to hold me over until I can get a good shower. I haven't tried Tobita, yet. But I suppose I'll get a small bottle of Witch Hazel from Sony Plaza to use if I go there. It's probably the best thing, but easy to forget.Sakai, forgive my ignorance. What is the Listerine for? Is an antiseptic for washing willy or is it for the scent you might otherwise bring home with you?

I am thinking of suiting up and wrapping a condom on for my next trip. Just wondering if they will be okay with that or if it's uncool.

Seriously need to head over. Could use some advice on getting a cute girl too, but that may be a lot to ask.

Forever indebted

Sakaisuji
04-26-13, 23:34
Sakai, forgive my ignorance. What is the Listerine for? Is an antiseptic for washing willy or is it for the scent you might otherwise bring home with you?

I am thinking of suiting up and wrapping a condom on for my next trip. Just wondering if they will be okay with that or if it's uncool.

Seriously need to head over. Could use some advice on getting a cute girl too, but that may be a lot to ask.

Forever indebtedI hope it's an antiseptic. Why don't you just ask for a handjob. You can bring your own lubricant just in case the girl doesn't have any. They have the same fears as you, so they might be happy with it.

Hatguy
05-04-13, 16:41
Hi all. It's been a while. Just dropped in to say that the other day I took two non Japanese speaking white dudes to Tobita. Really high call rates. Even without any indication that we spoke J.

This may mean nothing tomorrow as that's the way it goes there but it is a situation report for all. Good luck there if you go. Hatguy

Metabo
05-05-13, 13:33
I hope it's an antiseptic. Why don't you just ask for a handjob. You can bring your own lubricant just in case the girl doesn't have any. They have the same fears as you, so they might be happy with it.So I moseyed in to CQ Thursday. I brought condoms, but once the girl started stroking me I got lost in the moment. And once she went down on me there was no turning back.

Decent looks, decent attitude, decent skills.

Will return.

Gentleman17
05-11-13, 14:58
Thanks to all who have posted about Club Amour here. I am from the USA, white, old, fat, and I don't speak Japanese. Based on the reports here I went down to Club Amour in the Namba area on Thursday afternoon. When you get off the train at Namba station, there are plenty of signs directing to the various numbered exits. Go to exit 25. When you get out on the sidewalk, make a U turn and go a couple of blocks (North) , passing over a bridge over a canal. Then you'll see a building marked Spokata. Turn left AT that building, on the street Dotonboribashi-Kitazume (the street sign is in English). Walk about a block and a half and on your left you'll see Club Amour (in English) across the street from Club Ruby. A little farther on is Rose Lips (in case you went too far).

I walked in and was asked if I spoke Japanese."No" was no problem whatsoever."No sex" was emphasized several times. Blow job was signed. I did not try to pick a girl from pictures as I don't think one can tell from pictures. I paid for 90 min. 28, 000 Yen ($280). Its a bit expensive for what you get but I had never had the "Fashion Health"/lotion experience so I wanted to try it. I was told to wait about 10 min. The waiting room had about 30 seats but at 3 PM on Thursday, I was the only one there. In about 10 min a man ushered me to the elevator, in which was waiting a lovely young woman, Rumi. She is soft and curvy, not at all fat but not slim by Japanese toothpick standards. And she has somewhat dark skin (had just been on a vacation in the sun, proudly showed me her tan lines). I happen to like soft and curvy over bony and skinny, and I love darker skin. I would have picked Rumi out of a line up!

Rumi was relaxed and friendly. She took me to a room with a bed, tea table, and a bathing area (tiled, tub, shower hose, air mattress). She offered me tea, undressed me, and undressed herself. Took me into the bathing area and sat me on one of those stools with no middle, so she had complete access to my junk and anus. Scrubbed those and the rest of me thoroughly. Rubbed her bare pussy on my forearms. She was not shaved. No problems for my hands to wander and appreciate her lovliness. Rinsed me off and put me in the tub. Brushed her teeth and gave me a toothbrush. Got in and prepared to give me a bare blow job. I made it clear no blow job for me (worried about STD). She was surprised but not upset.

She got out of the tub (seemed she didn't know what to do in the tub since I broke her routine) and started mixing up the lotion and sliming up the air mattress. Had me lie on my stomach and slid all over my back, also scissors legs sliding, rubbing her pussy on my legs and crotch, and licking all over my back and butt cheeks. The lotion is so slippery it was not like a skin on skin experience. It could have been a blow-up doll full of water sliding around on me. I would much prefer to be wet but not with the very slippery lotion. It is so slippery you can't sit up on the air mattress. You can't lie on your side. You just silp back to lying on your back.

She turned me over. She was a good kisser and we kissed a lot which I do love. Kissing while handling my junk. Very nice. Kissing while I rubbed her clit and finger fucked her. She didn't seem aroused by it, tolerated it perhaps found it slightly irritating as I was being vigorous to see if I could turn her on (silly me). Who can blame her!

She sat just in front of my cock, bare pussy on my pubic area, and with her very slippery hand, did an amazing job of faking cowgirl fucking with my cock behind her butt in her hand. She was skilled at not letting my cock into her hand, then letting me push in to her tight hand, it felt for all the world like we were fucking. Better, actually! It was so realistic that I kept feeling around behind her to make sure we weren't fucking! (We weren't.)

Before long "time to finish". Well it had been not quite an hour since we entered the room. Turns out the 90 min starts when you pay, and includes your waiting room time! So I lost 15 min there. Then with all the scrubbing, bathing, lotion preparation, lotion rinsing, drying and dressing, you end up with not much more than 30 min of really erotic touching. Not sure I'll repeat but I loved having the experience at least once. Considering that either of AsianMystique's 2 very lovely girls in Osaka give you 2 hr of full service outcall for 35, 000 yen, Club Amour seems a bit spendy for what you get.

We never used the bed at Club Amour. Wonder what it is for. Wonder if I went back and asked for Rumi and got out a condom (now that she knows I'm gentle and respectful) , whether there would be other options. Maybe skipping the lotion. But I also wonder if there's a camera in the room. Would be interested to hear from others who may have tried this.

Sakaisuji
05-11-13, 23:40
Thanks to all who have posted about Club Amour here. I am from the USA, white, old, fat, and I don't speak Japanese. Based on the reports here I went down to Club Amour in the Namba area on Thursday afternoon. When you get off the train at Namba station, there are plenty of signs directing to the various numbered exits. Go to exit 25. When you get out on the sidewalk, make a U turn and go a couple of blocks (North) , passing over a bridge over a canal. Then you'll see a building marked Spokata. Turn left AT that building, on the street Dotonboribashi-Kitazume (the street sign is in English). Walk about a block and a half and on your left you'll see Club Amour (in English) across the street from Club Ruby. A little farther on is Rose Lips (in case you went too far).

I walked in and was asked if I spoke Japanese."No" was no problem whatsoever."No sex" was emphasized several times. Blow job was signed. I did not try to pick a girl from pictures as I don't think one can tell from pictures. I paid for 90 min. 28, 000 Yen ($280). Its a bit expensive for what you get but I had never had the "Fashion Health"/lotion experience so I wanted to try it. I was told to wait about 10 min. The waiting room had about 30 seats but at 3 PM on Thursday, I was the only one there. In about 10 min a man ushered me to the elevator, in which was waiting a lovely young woman, Rumi. She is soft and curvy, not at all fat but not slim by Japanese toothpick standards. And she has somewhat dark skin (had just been on a vacation in the sun, proudly showed me her tan lines). I happen to like soft and curvy over bony and skinny, and I love darker skin. I would have picked Rumi out of a line up!

Rumi was relaxed and friendly. She took me to a room with a bed, tea table, and a bathing area (tiled, tub, shower hose, air mattress). She offered me tea, undressed me, and undressed herself. Took me into the bathing area and sat me on one of those stools with no middle, so she had complete access to my junk and anus. Scrubbed those and the rest of me thoroughly. Rubbed her bare pussy on my forearms. She was not shaved. No problems for my hands to wander and appreciate her lovliness. Rinsed me off and put me in the tub. Brushed her teeth and gave me a toothbrush. Got in and prepared to give me a bare blow job. I made it clear no blow job for me (worried about STD). She was surprised but not upset.

She got out of the tub (seemed she didn't know what to do in the tub since I broke her routine) and started mixing up the lotion and sliming up the air mattress. Had me lie on my stomach and slid all over my back, also scissors legs sliding, rubbing her pussy on my legs and crotch, and licking all over my back and butt cheeks. The lotion is so slippery it was not like a skin on skin experience. It could have been a blow-up doll full of water sliding around on me. I would much prefer to be wet but not with the very slippery lotion. It is so slippery you can't sit up on the air mattress. You can't lie on your side. You just silp back to lying on your back.

She turned me over. She was a good kisser and we kissed a lot which I do love. Kissing while handling my junk. Very nice. Kissing while I rubbed her clit and finger fucked her. She didn't seem aroused by it, tolerated it perhaps found it slightly irritating as I was being vigorous to see if I could turn her on (silly me). Who can blame her!

She sat just in front of my cock, bare pussy on my pubic area, and with her very slippery hand, did an amazing job of faking cowgirl fucking with my cock behind her butt in her hand. She was skilled at not letting my cock into her hand, then letting me push in to her tight hand, it felt for all the world like we were fucking. Better, actually! It was so realistic that I kept feeling around behind her to make sure we weren't fucking! (We weren't.)

Before long "time to finish". Well it had been not quite an hour since we entered the room. Turns out the 90 min starts when you pay, and includes your waiting room time! So I lost 15 min there. Then with all the scrubbing, bathing, lotion preparation, lotion rinsing, drying and dressing, you end up with not much more than 30 min of really erotic touching. Not sure I'll repeat but I loved having the experience at least once. Considering that either of AsianMystique's 2 very lovely girls in Osaka give you 2 hr of full service outcall for 35, 000 yen, Club Amour seems a bit spendy for what you get.

We never used the bed at Club Amour. Wonder what it is for. Wonder if I went back and asked for Rumi and got out a condom (now that she knows I'm gentle and respectful) , whether there would be other options. Maybe skipping the lotion. But I also wonder if there's a camera in the room. Would be interested to hear from others who may have tried this.It might be better for non-Japanese speakers to visit Tobita rather than Club Amour. It's a bit stressful not being able to make small talk and it kills the experience. The girl might spend a lot of time doing "busy" work and just a little doing what you paid ALOT of money for. Tobita is cheaper and all around more fun. Club Amour is happy to take your money if you can't speak Japanese, but you miss out on the service that makes it popular with Japanese speakers.

Has anyone tried Shindoyama?

Ingram1034
05-13-13, 20:58
I'll be in Osaka next week and have been reading this forum for mongering info and advice.

I tip my hat to Hatguy, Azure Knight, CodeX, and others (my apologies if I've missed your name) for incredibly informative posts.

My question is this. I have one afternoon to monger and want to make the most of it. I'm interested in Club Amour, Club Queen, and Muki-Umeda. Can anyone suggest which would be the best place to go? I'm Asian, but don't speak any Japanese. I thought about Tobita, but the short time limits (20 min) would add some anxiety to the experience which I would rather avoid.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Sakaisuji
05-14-13, 23:05
I'll be in Osaka next week and have been reading this forum for mongering info and advice.

I tip my hat to Hatguy, Azure Knight, CodeX, and others (my apologies if I've missed your name) for incredibly informative posts.

My question is this. I have one afternoon to monger and want to make the most of it. I'm interested in Club Amour, Club Queen, and Muki-Umeda. Can anyone suggest which would be the best place to go? I'm Asian, but don't speak any Japanese. I thought about Tobita, but the short time limits (20 min) would add some anxiety to the experience which I would rather avoid.

Thanks in advance for any advice.In Tobita you can see what you are buying. At the two clubs you can't. If you want more time and a shower Matsuyamachi near Kujo station (Chuo line) is 14,000 for 30 min. It's just like Tobita, but smaller.

I sat in the bath alone for most of my time at Club Amour.

BionicMan
05-15-13, 11:41
Sakai, forgive my ignorance. What is the Listerine for? Is an antiseptic for washing willy or is it for the scent you might otherwise bring home with you?It is an antiseptic mouth washed. I never tried "down" as I feel it might contain too much alcool for the area.

Pretty popular in the industry when girls will do a BBBJ or you do DATY or expected to go on DFK.

Ingram1034
05-15-13, 17:28
In Tobita you can see what you are buying. At the two clubs you can't. If you want more time and a shower Matsuyamachi near Kujo station (Chuo line) is 14, 000 for 30 min. It's just like Tobita, but smaller.

I sat in the bath alone for most of my time at Club Amour.Sakaisuji,

Many thanks for your suggestion. I don't know Osaka at all, so please forgive my naive questions. How do I get to Matsuyamachi from the Kujo station? Also, I noticed that there is a subway stop named Matsuyamachi, which is not near Kujo station. I assume this is not the same place that you mentioned.

Thanks

Sakaisuji
05-16-13, 06:42
Sakaisuji,

Many thanks for your suggestion. I don't know Osaka at all, so please forgive my naive questions. How do I get to Matsuyamachi from the Kujo station? Also, I noticed that there is a subway stop named Matsuyamachi, which is not near Kujo station. I assume this is not the same place that you mentioned.

ThanksHttp://www.tokyosecret.tv/shinchi/index.html

Tobita is really near Club Queen. You could do them both very easily, but Tobita twice would probably be a better way to use your money.

http://www.tokyosecret.tv/shinchi/index.html

This is the place I call Kujo. It's on the Chou line. Exit the station of the shopping street side (it's that tube like thing on the map) and walk towards that Naito Hospital. It's 15, 000 for 30 min. (I misquoted in my last post)

http://www.kaitorimax.com/signkai/signkai.html

If you go to Osaka this Saturday or next you can see and av star in Nipponbashi if you buy their dvd at Kaitorimax.

Sakaisuji
05-26-13, 22:27
It's great that Club Queen accepts foreigners and doesn't make a fuss about Japanese language ability. And I know can be a difficult job for the workers. But on my last visit my queen was drunk or working at it. It didn't help her performance at all and I left feeling like I'd wasted my money. I couldn't help wondering if she drank because of the job or had the job because she drank.

How many girls work there? Does anyone know anything about their schedules or days?

Zukkpo3
05-28-13, 20:14
http://www.tekoki-tengoku.com/price/area4-osaka.htmlHi fellas,

Has anyone tried any of these?

http://www.ohj358.com/main/

Or.

http://www.cosplay-seiufuku-bloomers.com/area/kansai.htm

http://sokugaku.net/top/

http://www.osaka-fuzoku-joho.com/

http://nyanda1.com/system/option/index.html

http://princess-layer.net/system

http://www.ecolerose.com/

http://chijo-jiten.com/

http://www.oneesama.com/system/

http://www.dt-osaka.net/home/

Or similar?

Though not a complete newbie to mongering in Japan, I'm not very experienced either. Speak some Japanese, enough to make myself understood, also sexually. Very curious about these places, and grateful for replies.

Sakaisuji
05-28-13, 23:14
Hi fellas,

Has anyone tried any of these?

http://www.ohj358.com/main/

Or.

http://www.cosplay-seiufuku-bloomers.com/area/kansai.htm

http://sokugaku.net/top/

http://www.osaka-fuzoku-joho.com/

http://nyanda1.com/system/option/index.html

http://princess-layer.net/system

http://www.ecolerose.com/

http://chijo-jiten.com/

http://www.oneesama.com/system/

http://www.dt-osaka.net/home/

Or similar?

Though not a complete newbie to mongering in Japan, I'm not very experienced either. Speak some Japanese, enough to make myself understood, also sexually. Very curious about these places, and grateful for replies.I couldn't find most of the places on my list. If you speak Japanese you ought to call or send a message. Judging from the Tokyo board there are many places that will scam you out of your money.

Sakaisuji
06-15-13, 08:57
That's right, it's NOT dead. There's something similar to Club Queen near the Takashimaya.

KyotoJin
07-04-13, 04:55
Long time reader, first time reporter so here goes.

I've had a fare amount of service from Delivery Health and it's kind of hit or miss but I'll share one that has been pretty good a little later on. Oh and before I get much further I should say, in case you haven't used it before, it takes a fair bit of Japanese to use DeliHeru but it can definitely be worth it.

My first experience with DeliHeru was fantastic. Honestly I don't even remember how I found the site but am certainly glad I did. Called up, asked for a girl with a cute face and boy did they deliver. Super petite and boy what a cutie, and only 18. We talked for a bit got in the shower, wiped off and when we got back to my room she instantly asked if I had a condom. She was ready to go! She wasn't more than 5'3", cute little A (maybe B) cups, and 18 years old! I was just afraid I was going to snap her in half. Could tell she enjoyed herself, I know I did. After we finished we talked a bit and got her mail (although I think it was for the "work" phone). We were never able to connect again, which is a shame, because it looks as if she's out of the business now.

After that I tried a couple others because she was never available when I was and had one good experience with a girl that had been working for a few years and knew her way around. Had one horrible time with a girl that looked like she might have been in the early stages of pregnancy but was still working, I just did the deed as fast as I could and sent her on her way.

Tried Korean DeliHeru once, which was an interesting experience. I always ask for "slender body" and "cute face" (the one time I didn't I got the might be pregnant girl, learned my lesson real quick.). When she came she was really surprised, I guess my Japanese was pretty good on the phone, because she said she was expecting a Japanese man. She was visibly startled and called back to the office and jabbered in Korean for a while, but I guess the person on the other side of phone convinced her to stay but she didn't look to happy about it. We showered but she was rather cold, got a blow job and I was trying to play with her tits (natural D's) but she said they were hurting her. I said I wanted to fuck, and she said it would be another 10, 000Y on top of the base price. This had never happened before, usually the girls are more than happy to jump on for a ride, but just to spite her I paid the extra and rammed her. She was cold about it but she started moaning a bit. Haven't repeated for any Korean DeliHeru since.

After that had a so-so encounter. The girl they delivered was okay on looks, but her teeth were downright brown. So I said I wanted to change girls, which is usually free, so she called up the office and he got all indignant and said it would be another 2000 to change, we argued a bit back and forth, but I eventually said screw it and paid the extra. The replacement was better but still kind of meh but I didn't feel like dealing with any more hassle so just took her in. Didn't even get FS, just a BBBJ and when I moved to go get a condom she said no, so I left it at that. Overall pretty disappointing, that one.

Anyway, after a long spell of not calling for various reasons, I needed a release last night so I went with the agency that I used the first (and best) time. Boy I was not disappointed! And so starts my report.

This time was a bit different, for the first time I used a love hotel for the delivery instead of my apartment (didn't feel like cleaning hahaha). I used Saint Martin,"san marutan" in Japanese, (

http://locoplace.jp/t000278377/

) , decent enough place and pretty close to Kyoto station. Normal "one night stay price is 7000Y. I got there about 3am and found out they don't start offering "rest price" (1 hour 2500Y or 3 hour 4000Y) until 6am. I bargained with the guy up front and he said he would give me the 3 hour rest rate as long as I was out by 6am.

It started off on a low note after I found out the girl I had the first time was no longer with them, but I asked for the usual "slender body" and "cute face" and the guy on the phone said it wouldn't be a problem. Just to hedge my bets, I asked if I could change the girl for free if I wasn't satisfied, again no problem. The only hitch was he said no one was could come until 3:30. I told him that would be fine, wasn't happy about it but what can you do. I told him I where I was and that I hadn't checked in yet I would do it when the girl came. I asked how much it would be and he said 16,000 (which is the base price for 60min) , I told the guy that I only had 20, 000Y on me and the hotel would be 4000Y so I would be fine. Hung up and waited.

Well 3:30am came and went, I was going to give them until 3:40 to come or I was going to give it up for the night. They called at 3:35 and said they would be about 10 or 15 more minutes. Didn't end up showing until just before 4am, I was seriously just about to leave when they pulled up."This better be worth it" I was telling myself, but then the girl walked out of the car. She was wearing a loose fit ankle-long dress that hid her figure, but you could tell it wasn't bad underneath. Cute face, not stunning, but cute. She had a nice sized rack, but wasn't sure if it was a padded bra. I would say a solid 8 on first impression. I was satisfied so we walked in to the love hotel. The system here is select the room from a board showing a preview of the room, go up the room, and pay the fee at an automated machine in the room, no real human interaction (standard procedure at love hotels I believe). But since I bargained with the guy previously about the price I asked him out from behind the counter so I could pay him up front, but when he saw the girl he changed his tune, oh well, had to shell out 7000Y for the normal "one night stay". This left me with only 13,000Y for the girl. She called the agency and they said that would be fine (thank god, I wasn't in the mood to go find an ATM).

We get up to the room, and start getting the clothes off for the shower and by god if the tits weren't for real! Natural D's. A bit rare I would say and not chubby around the waist either which is a nice change. Usually the big breasted ones, have a tummy to match, but not her. And that ass! She was a bit embarrassed and said it was too big. It was perfect, fit great in my palm and great for squeezing. Clothes on, she's an 8. Clothes off, I would say a 9. On the website (I looked her up later) her stats are: 20 years old. 160cm tall, F cup (but that's Japanese F cup I guess).57cm waist. 85cm hip. I didn't break out a measuring tape, and didn't care to, looked good to me! Bush wasn't out of control, decently trimmed. Overall I was pleased.

Showered and into the bed, towels off, and she starts with a BBBJ. She knows her way around a pole. Used a bit too much saliva in my opinion but good hand and mouth work. Not the best I've had but up there. I bring her up and start fingering and working her nipples and she gets really wet. Asks if I have a condom, but it's a love hotel so they have them on the headboard so after she asked and saw them she gave a little giggle because of her mistake which was a turn on. I brought my own anyway, because Japanese condoms are a bit tight, so slipped it on and she starts riding. Good technique, and I'm sucking on her tits which are easy to get to without straining my neck (a nice plus).

We kiss a bit. She's lacking a little in that department. She uses the tongue okay, but keeps her mouth open the entire time, and she did this thing where. Well she didn't spit per say, but she moved a good bit of her saliva into my mouth. Wasn't a fan. So I break off to nibble the tits a bit more.

Flip her over so we're in mish and start kissing her neck. This really gets her going, she's grinding and moaning. I move my tongue up to her ear and she tries to pull away, saying "don't", but I don't let it get away and she starts shaking and says she's coming. If she was faking, she's really good at it. I keep pumping and she pulses. She comes down a bit and says to me "you don't have to hold it, it's okay to come" but I reply with "let's come together". She rakes her fingernails on my back a bit and plunge deeper. I eventually finish a few minutes later, she came again a bit before me, have to try for the simultaneous O next time :P.

We wash up and get dressed have a little small talk. She says I was her second foreigner but much better than the first. She said he didn't speak any Japanese and wasn't that great in bed. She actually said I was the best she ever had, not sure if that's just for fluff or to pump up my ego but I'll take it either way. She did say it was the first time had multiple orgasms in one session, which I don't think she was lying about.

Anyway I got her LINE, so I will be seeing her again without a doubt. Hopefully outside of the agency. Would be nice to get her as a paybee. Time will tell.

All in all, a very satisfying night. Total damage 20,000Y isn't too bad either considering soaps are upwards of 30,000 or so I've heard.

Anyone else have some DeliHeru stories? Oh and the Delivery that I used this time is.

http://mix-j.jp/home/

I think I'll stick to them from now on. All the girls look great and I haven't been wronged with them yet. If you're in Kyoto and need some release give them a call, they have a new person discount 60min for 12, 000Y.

http://mix-j.jp/event/

Well worth the money in my opinion.

Also,


That's right, it's NOT dead. There's something similar to Club Queen near the Takashimaya.Any more info on the location? I'll check it out when I get some free time.

KyotoJin
07-07-13, 19:32
Really boys? Is it just Okinawa and Tokyo that get any action?

I know that can't be true.

Hatguy, Sakaisuji. Nothing brothers?

OsakaMonster
07-08-13, 06:44
I have been trying my luck at bars (Blarney stone or HUB) but I am starting to believe that my game in japanese is extremely boring. I have tried deliheru but spending that much for a woman which should probably be paying me to have it with her. No way! Currently I am looking for the freebies, even if they are just average.

Do you guys have tips of 1- Where to find freebies willing to have "casual sex", without relationships. 2. How do you guys approach: Japanese or english? 3. Do you go directly saying that you found her cute or you never mention it (a friend of mine told me it was a no-no to tell her she was cute)? 4. I have been trying to approach them "solo". Does it make a great difference if I tag along with some other guy?

Well. Looks I still have lots to learn in this art, so if any of you guys need a "wingman" just send me a message.

CodeX
07-08-13, 16:39
Really boys? Is it just Okinawa and Tokyo that get any action?

I know that can't be true.

Hatguy, Sakaisuji. Nothing brothers?I have not posted for a while for 2 reasons.

1. I've been on a run with freebees who just want the casual fling.

2. Some people on here have fucked up places I recommended. Some guy demanded a massage girl to let him finger her. He basically killed off all the goodwill from that place. Another guy at my other recommended place threw me a cold shoulder when I went to visit.

Please remember, when you go to a place in Japan do not expect anything from the girl. It is up to her discretion what extras she will do / provide for free / provide at a cost.

I have one place I go to at the moment, its &65509; 7000 for 40mins. I'm really friendly with the guy and girls, so I usually get a discount and 10-15 mins extra.

Its FS for me, I can take movies and pics, ask for cosplay and I do not pay anything extra. (It does not mean you will get the same service!)

Being a nice guy and treating the girls right will actually help the rest of us who spend time, money and effort to find these places.

OsakaMonster
07-09-13, 02:34
Hey CodeX, what you just said has everything to do with my previous message!

After trying my luck with Delihealth I started noticing that both girls which I received were not that different than normal girls walking on the street, not to mention that they were "maguro" (some Japanese term for women which don't really "move" in bed). I am not an ugly guy, and when I have sex I actually make women cum. Why should I pay for an ordinary girl? She should pay me, for the "out-of-ordinary" gaijin! But of course, I am ok in settling for free!

My problem with finding freebies is: I enter trains and bars, girls look at me and I go talk to them. After 1 minute of talking I notice their interest going away. What do you do? Please, if you would be kind to read my previous post and answer some questions, I would appreciate it.

About the link you just sent. I don't know how to check it. Why don't you guys use bing maps for these locations? I placed an "origin point" mark on Umeda's HUB on the following link:

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?q=maps&mkt=en&FORM=BYLH#Y3A9MzQuNjk4NDA4fjEzNS40OTc1MzMmbHZsPTE2JnN0eT1yJnJ0cD1wb3MuMzQuNzA2MjAzXzEzNS40OTg5NDFfX19fYV9+YWRyLiZtb2RlPVQmbGltaXQ9RCZ0aW1lPTIwMTMwNzA5MDk1MiZtYXhyPTM=

7000 for 40 minutes is a price I am willing to pay. Anything beyond 10000 is not compatible with the service I had with my delihealth (which I paid 15000, for my own disappointment).

OsakaMonster
07-09-13, 06:45
My previous link got messed up.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default

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This time I pressed enter once in a while. Just select everything and paste it on the browser. If it doesn't work, I quit!

If you can see it properly it will show HUB, close to Umeda station.

Sakaisuji
07-09-13, 10:08
Hey CodeX, what you just said has everything to do with my previous message!

After trying my luck with Delihealth I started noticing that both girls which I received were not that different than normal girls walking on the street, not to mention that they were "maguro" (some Japanese term for women which don't really "move" in bed). I am not an ugly guy, and when I have sex I actually make women cum. Why should I pay for an ordinary girl? She should pay me, for the "out-of-ordinary" gaijin! But of course, I am ok in settling for free!

My problem with finding freebies is: I enter trains and bars, girls look at me and I go talk to them. After 1 minute of talking I notice their interest going away. What do you do? Please, if you would be kind to read my previous post and answer some questions, I would appreciate it...You might want to try the bar Pure. I suppose a lot of the hunting for freebees involves choosing the right targets. That doesn't mean that they are your type, but receptive to your advances.

I think that the night club Platinum has women in their 30s while Pure has girls in their 20s who enjoy clubbing and foreigners.

Bar Balabushika has darts, billards and maybe air hockey. But the girls that go there are mostly looking for "safe fun".

I don't know, but it might be best NOT To exchange e-mail with them and try to make a date to meet there again. If they aren't really into westerners they are always defensive to the extreme.

These are just some observations and suggestions that might not be good.

The Lone Ranger opens August 2nd. And Johnny is really popular here. A game of darts for buying popcorn at the movies might work.

KyotoJin
07-10-13, 01:04
Hey CodeX, what you just said has everything to do with my previous message!

After trying my luck with Delihealth I started noticing that both girls which I received were not that different than normal girls walking on the street, not to mention that they were "maguro" (some Japanese term for women which don't really "move" in bed). I am not an ugly guy, and when I have sex I actually make women cum. Why should I pay for an ordinary girl? She should pay me, for the "out-of-ordinary" gaijin! But of course, I am ok in settling for free!Where is this sense of entitlement coming from? I think you might have misread CodeX's post, pretty sure he said that kind of expectation that the girls have to do it is what's killed off the goodwill in some of the places that he used to enjoy.

Of course free is good, but it's never actually free. You spend time, effort, and money (you should buy the girls some drinks, that's just common courtesy and paying for hotel goes without question). Sometimes you luck out, but I think spending between 5 to 10 thousand is the norm for a night and sometimes (or most times as it sounds from your post) we end up going back with nothing.

Good on you CodeX for your good luck, hope it continues.


7000 for 40 minutes is a price I am willing to pay. Anything beyond 10000 is not compatible with the service I had with my delihealth (which I paid 15000, for my own disappointment).From what I gathered from CodeX's post is that the first time you go it may not be FS. You have to build rapport and be a repeat customer usually to get the good stuff. That may be why he didn't give the location in his post. He didn't want someone going in and expecting FS off the bat and when they don't get it they do something stupid and ruin it for everyone else.


Being a nice guy and treating the girls right will actually help the rest of us who spend time, money and effort to find these places.This is the key.

OsakaMonster
07-10-13, 04:54
Sakaisuji, thanks for your report.

Since I am aiming for the twenties (although I'm ok with the thirties too!) I believe I will try my luck at this Pure bar. Is it between Nanba and Shinsaibashi stations (close to Don Quijote)?

You know, I am not a very picky guy. I don't need any supermodel, as long as they want the same thing I want (which is NOT a serious relationship!). The main problem I have to improve now is my "approach" on these girls. Some guys told me that since they like foreigners they expect you to approach in english and talk in english all the time, even if the conversation does not advance. Well. I will give it a try in both languages to see which one works better!

Thank you for the support, guys! I will keep everybody posted if I find something nice.

OsakaMonster
07-11-13, 04:14
I am sorry if I sounded rude or anything, but in the 15000 deliheru I asked for the "honban" and she said that would be an additional 5000, which I paid! So, for this girl I paid 2man and she just laid there in bed. I was not rude and we a very nice talk at the end, exchanging e-mail. The other deliheru was 15000 and was just a massage with happy ending. I didn't force anything and was Ok with it.

Many times in bars I approach girls and the first thing they say is "I'm thirsty and I wanted a drink". I am sorry guys, but I am not that gentleman to buy a drink to a complete unknown. If she asks for a drink after a 15 minutes talk, that is a different conversation. If I asked her for a drink, would she pay me one? What happened to the "equal rights" now? Any woman in this forum? I didn't think so.

I am not a troll, but since foreigners open doors to girls and say "ladies first" (I also do it) some women think that you are going to buy the Gucci bag she wants and cross your fingers hoping that she will let you hold her hand. I am young, above-average looking and enjoy sex. I will pay hotel and dinner, no problem, but she must know that, as you yourself pointed out,"it's never actually free".

Sakaisuji
07-11-13, 06:56
Sakaisuji, thanks for your report.

Since I am aiming for the twenties (although I'm ok with the thirties too!) I believe I will try my luck at this Pure bar. Is it between Nanba and Shinsaibashi stations (close to Don Quijote)?

You know, I am not a very picky guy. I don't need any supermodel, as long as they want the same thing I want (which is NOT a serious relationship!). The main problem I have to improve now is my "approach" on these girls. Some guys told me that since they like foreigners they expect you to approach in english and talk in english all the time, even if the conversation does not advance. Well. I will give it a try in both languages to see which one works better!

Thank you for the support, guys! I will keep everybody posted if I find something nice.I'm sorry I won't tell you where it is. You'll have to practice your "approach" by asking some pretty girls for directions. Try asking them in English first then you can let them in on the joke by using your Japanese.

Are there many girls with implants in Tobita?

KyotoJin
07-11-13, 19:18
I am sorry if I sounded rude or anything, but in the 15000 deliheru I asked for the "honban" and she said that would be an additional 5000, which I paid! So, for this girl I paid 2man and she just laid there in bed. I was not rude and we a very nice talk at the end, exchanging e-mail. The other deliheru was 15000 and was just a massage with happy ending. I didn't force anything and was Ok with it.It wasn't so much rudeness but kind of, well, entitlement is the only thing I can say I guess. The whole "I'm a foreign experience and they should be paying me" bit was just a bit much. Don't get me wrong, I've thought that myself a few times but you have to remember they are working girls. They don't have to do above and beyond, we are paying for a service, not for extra feelings, although those are certainly nice. And if you create some rapport and good feelings with the girl you can get it, but if just one foreigner is rude, or too pushy, that will be communicated and will ruin it for every foreigner after. Not saying you did that, but you have to consider that soap lands (the full massage, sex, GF experience package all in-house) run from 25,000 until you get your head lost in zeros if you go for an AV actress.

For me personally, I have never directly asked for "honban", I usually follow what the girl is communicating and bring out my own condom and ask "is it okay" and I've only been turned down once. I have never, with the exception of the Korean (see my report below) had to pay extra for the final bit.

It's hit or miss but technically (by law) they aren't even supposed to offer full service. If you do try it again, I would go for a less direct approach. Especially after kissing the neck and earlobe (that's always worked for me) , don't know what it is but that seems to trigger something.


Many times in bars I approach girls and the first thing they say is "I'm thirsty and I wanted a drink". I am sorry guys, but I am not that gentleman to buy a drink to a complete unknown. If she asks for a drink after a 15 minutes talk, that is a different conversation. If I asked her for a drink, would she pay me one? What happened to the "equal rights" now? Any woman in this forum? I didn't think so.

I am not a troll, but since foreigners open doors to girls and say "ladies first" (I also do it) some women think that you are going to buy the Gucci bag she wants and cross your fingers hoping that she will let you hold her hand. I am young, above-average looking and enjoy sex. I will pay hotel and dinner, no problem, but she must know that, as you yourself pointed out,"it's never actually free".As far as this, I don't blame you. It's one of the reasons that I don't go to bars so much anymore, and I think why many turn to P4P. Less hassle, job is done, and they're out. Sometimes there isn't a repeat performance, but you don't have a girl messaging you for Louis Vuitton or what not. Freebies are nice as long as you find someone like minded, but it's hard. That's why many props go to CodeX and Hatguy (haven't read a report from him in a bit but he's got some stories).

On another note, sakaisuji, you have that info on the place in Kyoto? I'm willing to take a look and offer a report on what I find.

OsakaMonster
07-12-13, 01:01
Thanks for the hint, Sakaisuji.

I will try to find the place while upgrading my game.

I have never been to Tobita or Tenoji. I just moved from a small city in Kyushu, where I had my 2 Deliherus. In that city the girls did not have implants of any kind.

I feel I have been bothering you guys with too many questions, so next time I post I will try to do some Report or something productive. Sorry if I said something.

Sakaisuji
07-12-13, 08:19
It wasn't so much rudeness but kind of, well, entitlement is the only thing I can say I guess. The whole "I'm a foreign experience and they should be paying me" bit was just a bit much. Don't get me wrong, I've thought that myself a few times but you have to remember they are working girls. They don't have to do above and beyond, we are paying for a service, not for extra feelings, although those are certainly nice. And if you create some rapport and good feelings with the girl you can get it, but if just one foreigner is rude, or too pushy, that will be communicated and will ruin it for every foreigner after. Not saying you did that, but you have to consider that soap lands (the full massage, sex, GF experience package all in-house) run from 25, 000 until you get your head lost in zeros if you go for an AV actress.

For me personally, I have never directly asked for "honban", I usually follow what the girl is communicating and bring out my own condom and ask "is it okay" and I've only been turned down once...It's between Hankyu Kawaramachi and Keihan Gion Shijo. You'll cross a small stream and there will be a McDonalds on the corner. You'll want to look for a Family Mart when you get to the corner. It's easy to see and on the same side as the McDonalds. About 2 or 3 doors down from that is a set of steep stairs. I think they are black. There might be a balding fellow with glasses (black frames) there too. I gave it a try and left satisified. My " girl" was late 30s and missing a front tooth. But she was very friendly and did her job well.

There's a better report about this place in the Kyoto section. I paid 8, 000 for 40 min, but didn't need that much time. It isn't clean and the girls weren't young or pretty, but they were friendly and feminine. They will spray you with some disinfectant before and after. It's a good idea to give yourself a cleaning as soon as you can just to be safe. A sex worker from Kyoto contracted that super STD a year or two ago. I like to clean with Listerine until I can get a shower, but I suppose soap, a baby wipe or sake would be A LOT better than nothing.

If you get to the Magic Banana you've passed it.

I hope you can find it easily and have fun. Sorry for the unwanted advice.

Sakaisuji
08-03-13, 12:21
Stopped by the place in Kyoto mentioned in the post below. The qouted price today was 40 min for 10,000! Last time it was 40 for 8,000. There was a matsuri or some event nearby today. Maybe that had something to do with it. I passed on it. The foreign unfriendly shops charge the same price, but the girls are are the kind you mad on the streets. 8,000 is reasonable, but 10.000 isn't worth it.

OsakaMonster
08-08-13, 05:15
I still didn't find the courage to go for P4P again. I may go as I grow older and "Nampa" stops working for me.

Talking about Nampa I had a few experiences which might help fellow friends in the art of "getting laid for free"! Since they happened in Osaka, I will post it here instead of the "Nampa" section.

I have been trying to approach girls in public places, such as stations, streets and even trains, and have been capable of scheduling a first date, no problem. This is fairly easy. (just need some courage to do it, start with eye contact and then go there and ask her name, what she does and. Bang! Contact). What I have been very unsuccessful is about this first date, because the mindset that you have in girls going to work (I will call them "majime", for serious girls) is different than girls which you approach at a bar or club (or "party girls").

As a disclaimer, I am no stud, but I am also not ugly. Maybe the outcome can be different if you are above gaijin average. While with "party girls" I have had the chance to kiss in the first date in many occasions, every time I try to approach the "majime girls" with something a little more aggressive (kissing, and sometimes even touching the hand!) they bail out and never message me again! They talk about being friends, making me wonder if after being friends they will ever be interested in being "more than friends". My personal experience says that once in the "friend zone", you are done.

Beside the obvious hint of only hitting on girls in bars and clubs, can anybody say something about this "becoming friends with girls" thing? I still wonder if I just adopted the aggressive approach after 3 or 4 encounters if my outcomes would be different. For now, I would recommend guys to not even try picking up these girls on the street, because they only want friends or to learn English for free (or both!). Even though they are equally beautiful, I wonder how they get laid.

Azure Knight
08-17-13, 20:37
I don't go for anything on the first date. Not unless I'm getting some strong signals from her. Usually I take her out to dinner and drinks, something casual and comfortable. Lots of flirting but no touching. It lets her know I'm interested, but it doesn't send off the "I just want to bang you" vibes so it keeps her defenses nice and low. From the second date I'll be more touchy and arrange for us to go somewhere with a bit more privacy. If she left the first date having had fun and with the possibility of more, and on the second date I get her to a more private area then the chances are pretty high we'll end up at a love hotel by the end of the night.

Sakaisuji
08-18-13, 12:32
Went to Cub Queen after a two month hiatus. It's great if you can't speak Japanese and it's horribly frustrating as well. The women are all middle arged and rather round and flat. I had a can of the new cherry chu-hai before I went. It helped to maqke the experience more bearable. The young girls on the trains and the street are so slim and beautiful, but unattainable for many of us. It's a good place. I'm going to give Tobita a try as soon as the tempertature drops to the mid 80s. It's in the 90s now and I'll be sopping wet by the time I complete the walk from the station. The women are very nice at Club Queen, but they are past their prime. If you can get past that you'll enjoy it.

Nitr0
08-24-13, 14:04
It's between Hankyu Kawaramachi and Keihan Gion Shijo. You'll cross a small stream and there will be a McDonalds on the corner. You'll want to look for a Family Mart when you get to the corner. It's easy to see and on the same side as the McDonalds. About 2 or 3 doors down from that is a set of steep stairs. I think they are black. There might be a balding fellow with glasses (black frames) there too. I gave it a try and left satisified. My " girl" was late 30s and missing a front tooth. But she was very friendly and did her job well.

There's a better report about this place in the Kyoto section. I paid 8, 000 for 40 min, but didn't need that much time. It isn't clean and the girls weren't young or pretty, but they were friendly and feminine. They will spray you with some disinfectant before and after. It's a good idea to give yourself a cleaning as soon as you can just to be safe. A sex worker from Kyoto contracted that super STD a year or two ago. I like to clean with Listerine until I can get a shower, but I suppose soap, a baby wipe or sake would be A LOT better than nothing...[QUOTE=KyotoJin; 1442056]Anyone else have some DeliHeru stories? Oh and the Delivery that I used this time is.

http://mix-j.jp/home/

I think I'll stick to them from now on. All the girls look great and I haven't been wronged with them yet. If you're in Kyoto and need some release give them a call, they have a new person discount 60min for 12, 000Y.

http://mix-j.jp/event/

Well worth the money in my opinion.Thanks for the info! I noticed the link to the delivery health you used now just redirects to Fudol. Do you have any other recommendations in Kyoto? Also, on the phone do you openly tell the tencho you're a foreigner or just assume they'll pick up on it based on the name you give them? It would be a shame to get the whole thing set up and then get turned down when the girl arrives because she wasn't expecting a foreigner.

Thanks!

Nitr0
08-25-13, 02:49
It's between Hankyu Kawaramachi and Keihan Gion Shijo. You'll cross a small stream and there will be a McDonalds on the corner. You'll want to look for a Family Mart when you get to the corner. It's easy to see and on the same side as the McDonalds. About 2 or 3 doors down from that is a set of steep stairs. I think they are black. There might be a balding fellow with glasses (black frames) there too. I gave it a try and left satisified. My " girl" was late 30s and missing a front tooth. But she was very friendly and did her job well.

There's a better report about this place in the Kyoto section. I paid 8, 000 for 40 min, but didn't need that much time. It isn't clean and the girls weren't young or pretty, but they were friendly and feminine. They will spray you with some disinfectant before and after. It's a good idea to give yourself a cleaning as soon as you can just to be safe. A sex worker from Kyoto contracted that super STD a year or two ago. I like to clean with Listerine until I can get a shower, but I suppose soap, a baby wipe or sake would be A LOT better than nothing.

If you get to the Magic Banana you've passed it.

I hope you can find it easily and have fun. Sorry for the unwanted advice.It appears some of my last post went missing due to a broken quote, so here it is:

Thank you for the info. I will try it out when I get a chance. There is a also pink salon called Pixie (detailed in a previous report) that is very gaijin-friendly even to those with no Japanese ability (the tout approached me in English before I even opened my mouth). You can find it by walking down Kawaramachi between Shijo and Sanjo and turning down the alley next to the Namco video arcade. It is at the end of that alley on the left side. However, it is not to my tastes as all (or least most) of the girls are on the plump side. If I recall correctly, it is 6000 yen for thirty mins with beer included.

Does anyone know any gaijin-friendly fashion / hotel health shops in Kyoto? I like both Muki Umeda and Club Amour (both detailed somewhere in this thread) in Osaka, but living in Kyoto something local would be even better. I was turned away at Banana Room despite speaking very good Japanese and being smartly dressed. While I am definitely up for trying out delivery health if KyotoJin has any recommendations, I would prefer a shop I can quickly pop into.

Zukkpo3
08-26-13, 18:00
Went to Cub Queen after a two month hiatus. It's great if you can't speak Japanese and it's horribly frustrating as well. The women are all middle arged and rather round and flat. I had a can of the new cherry chu-hai before I went. It helped to maqke the experience more bearable. The young girls on the trains and the street are so slim and beautiful, but unattainable for many of us. It's a good place. I'm going to give Tobita a try as soon as the tempertature drops to the mid 80s. It's in the 90s now and I'll be sopping wet by the time I complete the walk from the station. The women are very nice at Club Queen, but they are past their prime. If you can get past that you'll enjoy it.Dear Sakaisuji,

Thanks for the report on Club Queen. Just wondering were you the only gaijin, and what is the chance as a gaijin to bring one of the women at club queen to a love hotel? And the ratio of women to men?

Regards,

Zukkpo

Ostento
09-12-13, 05:58
medium time lurker, first time poster.

background: native-english speaker of asian descent.

debated between tobita and club amour.

it was my last full day in osaka and my body started to betray me (lots of walking with no water will do that).

since i am still a bit self-conscious doing the deed in a short amount of time and the fact that i needed to be cleaned anyway, club amour won this round.

i took the midosuji subway line to namba station and took exit 25. from there i walked over the bridge and took the first left. the place was on the left.

when i entered, the tencho said something i couldn't understand, which unfortunately exposed me as a foreigner (everyone in japan assumes i am japanese, even the koreans did when i was in seoul). thus he gave me the usual speech on how the system works and added "no sex", to which i agreed. for an extra 1000 yen, i had the option to choose a girl rather than having one assigned to me. i took the main course for 70 min at a cost of 22,000 yen with the choice option, for a total of 23,000 yen. of the three girls allowed to pick from (sadly my initial two choices weren't on there) , i chose coco (

http://smart.cityheaven.net/k/amour_namba/s6girldetailprofile/?girlid=1926006&girl_photo=0&of=y)

after waiting for about 50 min on a wednesday afternoon with only two others in the waiting area, i was finally led to the elevator to meet coco. she introduced herself saying in english,"pleased to meet you". as we rode the elevator up, she tried to engage in some small chat in english but i could tell it was difficult for her to have any follow up questions to my responses. finally she asked if i knew japanese to which i replied in japanese,"a little bit." that was enough for us to break the ice, so to speak as my comprehension is far better than my speaking ability. thus we ended up on a kind of conversation exchange: she would try to speak in english and i would try to speak in japanese. it made us both feel more comfortable and created a different dynamic from my expectation.

so, on to the matter at hand (no pun intended). the breakdown of time went something like this:

introduction, first tea: 10 min.

preparation of the area, undress: 5 min.

first rinse and cleaning: 10 min.

first bath and teeth cleaning: 10 min.

preparation for the mat and lotion: 5 min.

lotion play: 15-20 min.

final wash / rinse / dress: remaining 10-15 min.

so here are some observations about coco. darker skin than what is shown on the link above (think 'black girl'). a little thicker around the midsection (which i was totally ok with, i like that) but somewhat toned arms and legs. nice japanese e-cup breasts with a little puff around the areolas (which i like). quite the professional in terms of demeanor, she would give you that sultry look but i never was convinced there was anything behind it. that is not to say she wasn't skilled. a lot of her play in the beginning revolved around anal touching which was something new to me. i would say it is pleasant but i didn't feel it added to my experience. her hands around my cock was firm yet gentle, applying different kinds of strokes, which i also thought was interesting and pleasurable but nothing mind blowing. she allowed me to touch her during the wash, which i did to mainly her breasts and her ass, which was firm and defined (a plus on asian women).

mat play was also very interesting and she showed her skill again. when lying on my front, i felt like she was playing peek-a-boo. certain parts would slosh into mine, i didn't really know what to expect. lots of cock / ball / anal play here. flipping so i was lying on my back, she kept more with the blowjob / handjob combo. once she turned around so her ass was in my face, i started to play with her pussy, which she seemed to enjoy by the sounds of her moans. her moans got louder as i went from touching to fingering her clit. then we got into full 69 position, she started furiously jerking me off while i started to provide oral sex.

after having her cum a couple of times through oral and finger play, she asked if i was close, to which i replied,"maa maa desu" (more or less). i had to explain to her that i have never ejaculated through someone else's hands. she got the point and she started to clean up.

so, some takeaways from my experience.

1) if you have any japanese, practice it before you go. it makes things easier and can possibly have you in a better situation than the 'gaijin' bin.

2) i should have stated when the final thrust was on that i was close. it might have extended the activity for a couple of minutes.

3) i enjoyed my experience mainly because this session was more about curiosity of the whole 'soapland' experience and get to know my handler a little better (we talked about some of her hobbies and food, i talked about america and some of the differences between here and there) rather than the sexual component. based of those last terms, i may try another place to fulfill those needs. as said many times on this board before: ymmv. the next time i have some excess of funds and am in osaka again, i will consider coco, as she seemed quite polite and friendly.

Suzaku
09-14-13, 06:24
For a Fashion Health, it's pretty expensive. With the same money you can get soapland's service with the same plays and FS included. Too bad, Osaka doesn't have soapland and we have to go to Kobe for that.

There's a fashion health shop in Umeda that allows foreigner although I was asked to show my residence card (or maybe because I'm Asian and can speak decent Japanese). First 15 min is for 3 girls show up in turn. You can kiss them, touch them however you want but you can't take your clothes off. After that a guy will show up and ask if you want to chose a girl (but you have to pay 2000yen). The chosen girl come back, lead you to the shower and wash both you and her. After that is pretty much as other health shop with BJ. 69. Except the real deal until you come or the time run up.

You can check the shop's info here:

http://www.cityheaven.net/k/mituran_umeda

Ingram1034
09-17-13, 17:38
For a Fashion Health, it's pretty expensive. With the same money you can get soapland's service with the same plays and FS included. Too bad, Osaka doesn't have soapland and we have to go to Kobe for that.

There's a fashion health shop in Umeda that allows foreigner although I was asked to show my residence card (or maybe because I'm Asian and can speak decent Japanese). First 15 min is for 3 girls show up in turn. You can kiss them, touch them however you want but you can't take your clothes off. After that a guy will show up and ask if you want to chose a girl (but you have to pay 2000yen). The chosen girl come back, lead you to the shower and wash both you and her. After that is pretty much as other health shop with BJ. 69. Except the real deal until you come or the time run up.

You can check the shop's info here:

http://www.cityheaven.net/k/mituran_umedaThanks for your post Suzaku. Do you know if this place would accept a non-Japanese speaking foreigner? I'm Asian, but don't speak any Japanese.

Osaka3210
09-18-13, 14:09
Thanks for your post Suzaku. Do you know if this place would accept a non-Japanese speaking foreigner? I'm Asian, but don't speak any Japanese.Actually I went there yesterday and they said that they don't accept foreigners. The clerk said that there had been a problem with one so all of us are banned. By the way I am a white foreigner and I speak Japanese.

Osaka3210
09-19-13, 06:24
I have tried many Deriheru shops so I thought I would contribute to this forum with what I know.

There are two big questions I struggle with and here are my answers at the moment:

1. Should I divulge that I am a foreigner when I call?

At this point I usually tell them when I call. I have had the experience of having a girl show up and then refuse service when she saw that I was not Japanese. I have also called many places and been refused because I was foreign.

2. Are the pictures at all accurate?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I booked with Maihime a Korean Deri once, and the girl was definitely the one on the website. I have called other places and there has been no resemblance to the picture.

My experiences.

1. Maihime. Korean Deri. I called, divulged my race and said I would like a pretty girl with a large breasts. The woman said ok and when the woman arrived I discovered that I had a larger chest than her. It was quite disappointing because many of the girls on the site were quite beautiful. The service was pretty awful too. She didn't want to kiss and was one step above a robot. I am sure she was a nice girl but had chosen the wrong profession. I had another bad experience with Korean Deri. Concerning quality of service- so I wonder if it is universal. With Maihime I know the pictures are accurate so I am tempted to give it another try

2. Milkies. It is a site that specializes on busty girls so I was very excited when they said they would send someone. I told the guy at least three times I wanted a pretty girl with a large chest. So when the girl showed up and disrobed I was more than disappointed that she was very small and appeared drunk. I called them back to complain and he said that if she takes her clothes off it is too late to complain. He also said that large breasted is a relative term. I told him no thanks on the girl and because I knew I couldn't get my money back he could keep it.

3. Ikenai okusan. I called asking for my usual type and also emphasized I didn't want a fat girl. So of course they sent me a fat but busty girl. She was not particularly attractive but I had a good experience with her.

It is difficult to guess which sites are foreigner friendly. It is kind of a crap shoot and of course it is not fun to be rejected because of your race. Are there and foreigner friendly places out there with accurate pictures?

Medanboy
09-19-13, 12:24
Well I hadn't had high hopes for osaka which was oke as I was mostly on a tourist mission. However 2 days of overdressed young chicks and I was quite horny. The vod on television seemed liked an option. I just had an hour walk to familiarize me with the area. Most places seem to be hostess bars where you pay to talk with a lady. Glad someone explained it to me as it all looked like overdressed street prostitution to me. I just didn't got why everyone was waiting outside. Ofcourse no one inviting me in.

So I was on my way home to souemoncho which is in the popular nanba area. I passed the nipponbashi subwaystation and went north at the nainstreet next to it. At its corner is a girl dvd kind of thing with usually a pretty girl outside. Every time I pass she seems to say something to her cellphone. I'm pretty sure its how she invites people in but wouldn't know as I don't understand.

Anyways. If you walk north (max 5 minutes) you will arrive at a small bridge over the water. If U-turn left after the bridge you will soon see hotel metro 21 and later hotel vista. The last 2 mins walk before the bridge till hotel metro you will notice slightly older ladys. One of her did the talk to her cellphone when I passed. I continued. Stopped. Turned around and looked in a questioning was to her. She said "massage". I tried to talk. Didn't work. Luckily the japanese have the privilage to have a japanase simcard and mobile internet (I can not comprehend they don't have that for foreigners; why no prepaid. Makes finding the way easier and I had an actual conversation with a japanase with voice translating software in a bar later). So she could show me 30 min for 5000yen. I wanted to know if it was her (45 and average) or someone else. As we tryed the phone service lomger we went a bit back to the parking lot. I point at my gentle parts. 30 min 11000 yen. Oke we were getting somewhere. I still didn't know if it would be FS and wuth who. So I followed her to a sidestreet which we reached by just doing a block around true small alleys. Guess it is to seebif someone follows or not.

We arrive and go 2nd floor. She opens a locked door. And I actually see a typical lie down massagecplace (three boxes) and a kitchrn on the left. I point my grntle parts and then my lips and do a humping movement with my hips. 30 mins. 10. 000 yen. We getting sonewhere. For that prive I didn't expect high quality or good service but I didn't want her. I point the poster of a western model at the wall. And do the I want to look sign by pointing at my eye and the door. Which stayed open and I seemed to understand someone / more was coming. Oke I guess a 33 year old welldressed came in. Not the most pretty one but nothing was ugly. No streams. Very small belly but tight. I would say 6. 5. Probably she used to be a 7. 5 10 years ago.

We go in the massage room. She goes naked so I follow. She touches and does a BJ on her knees for 15 mins. I was like. Its with plastic I won't feel. But the slurpu sound she made and the fact I heard the other lady just outside the box doing I don't know what did work. After 10 mins I heard she left and we did very straigtforward FS. No kissing; well didn't try; didn't ask; didn't want; it didn't feel right in this setup. Had 15 mins FS. She put dome effortnin makimg soinds and sayimg japanese stuff (for me it was sexy) which I didn't understand. When finished a towel clrean. We go down together and split wayd. 15 meter to the mainstreet where I saw the mamasan. My guess of the 20 cellphoning ladys waiting most of them are mamasans. I must had a FS aura around me as I got 5 more offers.

So if you want an easy FS experience. With just low but polite service and you don't care about the looks to much (I'm quite picky usually) and want to blow of some steam this area seems like an option. Not sure if the 10. 000for 30mins is negottiable. But it didn't seem like a bad. Price for japan to me. Let me know if I'm wrong. I got a woman; not a "girl". Was quite happy but didn't have expectations.

Ritr8
09-22-13, 10:00
Hi,

I read many pages from this forum but I couldn't find something about a massage with happy ending in Kyoto.

I am looking something like Asian Feeling in Tokyo: massage and HJ.

Please can you give me an advice for Kyoto?

Or if you know something like this in Osaka.

Thank you so much!

Medanboy
09-29-13, 18:40
I have been trying my luck at bars (Blarney stone or HUB) but I am starting to believe that my game in japanese is extremely boring. I have tried deliheru but spending that much for a woman which should probably be paying me to have it with her. No way! Currently I am looking for the freebies, even if they are just average.

Do you guys have tips of 1- Where to find freebies willing to have "casual sex", without relationships. 2. How do you guys approach: Japanese or english? 3. Do you go directly saying that you found her cute or you never mention it (a friend of mine told me it was a no-no to tell her she was cute)? 4. I have been trying to approach them "solo". Does it make a great difference if I tag along with some other guy?

Well. Looks I still have lots to learn in this art, so if any of you guys need a "wingman" just send me a message.Well I am no expert at all in relationships with japanese or getting them in bed at all, only had a short visitting experience in osaka. I did succeed in getting them to sit with me for 2-3 hours and get facebook / Line (they all seem to have line?) accounts, having a picture together and thats all. As I only stayed a few days I can not tell if it would gotten somewhere. I am quite good in other countries, japan is a mystery for me. I even spend some time in england with an older japanese lady in england. After 4 days of going out she still not go for it and showed superdiscipline. I can categorize her as the only asian lady / girl that resisted to me. Usually it takes me maximum 2 dates.

So I just want to share what I think might work to keep them around or interested so perhaps others might want to correct me and point me in the right direction where i am totally wrong. Usually I brake local habits in a few days, in japan I do not. I would like to share my experiences and how i think it might work out. Every time I went solo.

A. Making a seat reservation for the movies (I like movies). Just pick a seat next to another lonely reserved seat in TOHO in the back row and 4/4 cases I sat next to a single japanese lady. If you spent to much attention to them they will move away or close totally. Ignoring, sitting with style, saying a few words and ignoring was the only tactic that made one talk with me after the movie. Coincidence. Perhaps. Do not expect any of them speaks english.

B. Streetwise: 0.

So the bar. Went 7 days in a row to the same bars and everytime when I thought it is getting boring I ended up sandwiched between two girls and I stayed till 2-3 in the morning. My rookie advice on how I would try if I stayed a few weeks. Notice it is my first impression opinion and I can be totally wrong. But some things must work as I never sat alone for long. I am an average looking mid 30 year old guy who looks in the end of the twenties. Some tactics who seemed to work and i would like to advice to other rookies if they want company, which i guess is something to start with:

1. Have no expectations.

2. Do not wear t-shirts and have clean shiny shoes. It is what my japanese lady friend told me when I met her in tokyo. She wanted to show me around but demanded I buy some nice suit shirts and new shoes. When I see japanese around they do to. And it is true I got a LOT more looks and even some smiles. Or maybe I just looked more confident. I had some luck with my t-shirt but I could feel the difference.

3. Take a bar where other foreigner go. I noticed some girls coming back every 2 day to the bar. You might have more competition but they will be more open to you. They know foreigners hang out so their mind is already more open to meeting them. Foreign bars are easy to find as it usually are the only bars you can see inside. Minami area around hotel vista and metro seemed to be the most effective.

4. Ignore at start. Order your drink. Ideally go sit next to a japanese guy who does not look to stay long or has some lady friends with him. Make some small talk. When he leaves ignore all ladys. Talk a bit with the people working at the bar. Make sure you have some seats available close to you. THen if a lady is not to far from you ask a question, she smiles, even if the japanese is to hard (I not speak a word).9/10 when I kept trying she pointed to come sit next to her. Usually they know the persons behind the bar so they will jump in and break uncomfortable long tryes to communicate and you can talk to them a bit to keep everything smooth. THen just have patience cause they all seem to have drinking habits, ask for line after an hour / facebook, never had a no. Once you have that they want to make pictures so they can post it. Never saw so many picture eager ladys as in osaka. Usually when I offer a drink at start they refuse, later on they never did, but if their glass was empty they were eager to buy it for them and propose me to have one.

5. My most effective tactic. Befriend with the older japanese guys hanging out at the bar. Point out after an hour that you like japanese women, usually they will make clear they like europe ones. Tell them you are shy. They will make sure any ladies in the bar who you like will come over and as uncomfortable as it may be the older respected guy will usually pay the bill.

6. After 3 days becoming a regular: every time I sat alone; the bar working girls always asked me to go sit with some ladys. I ask " they ask me to come?", she said "yes". Perhaps it increases their revenue as I stay longer. But it worked. They even seem to invite me to the ones who spoke best english.

Everytime when saying goodbye I noticed those do not go asking eyes or they proposed to keep drinking at another place. No idea how to get to the next level. I noticed however that the regular visitting girls when I sat with new ones always came say hello and start touching me or giving semi-hugs to say hello. After 4 days I got facebook messages to go out. When I responded to much it went silent.

So I never ended up alone and had girls staying my side 2-3 hours without even paying their drinks although I sometimes offered. I am sure 2 or 3 weeks would get me somewhere but I could be wrong. The key approach seems to not to approach to much but do initiate after a while. I met some people who lived in osaka and they mentionned they did not have a GF but all had 4-5 special friends; also that the girls are crazy about foreigners. Also it seems to help if you mention that you do not like Tokyo. And do not talk to much, they do not understand most stuff anyway and it keeps everything going as they can talk to the people behind the bar. I mentionned "cute" a few times but they do not seem to respond very warm if you mention it to early.

If you ask me you have to stay at least 2 weeks or longer before you can get anywhere with a freebie, at least that is the feeling I head.

I will come back in the future and would appreciate the input of others about my tactics, are they all wrong or has some truth? Do i only go in the wrong direction or the right direction this way? With the contacts i made, how should i propose a date for next time i come back or will it not work anyway? Japan seems to be different than any country i go before although usually most things are universal. Good quality pay for FS seems very hard for newbies so i am considering freebies. Or is that even harder? Any input is much appreciated. Thank you.

AussieGaigin
09-30-13, 10:06
I have been trying my luck at bars (Blarney stone or HUB) but I am starting to believe that my game in japanese is extremely boring. I have tried deliheru but spending that much for a woman which should probably be paying me to have it with her. No way! Currently I am looking for the freebies, even if they are just average.

Do you guys have tips of 1- Where to find freebies willing to have "casual sex", without relationships. 2. How do you guys approach: Japanese or english? 3. Do you go directly saying that you found her cute or you never mention it (a friend of mine told me it was a no-no to tell her she was cute)? 4. I have been trying to approach them "solo". Does it make a great difference if I tag along with some other guy?

Well. Looks I still have lots to learn in this art, so if any of you guys need a "wingman" just send me a message.Have you read the forum section on "nampa"?

Lots of clues there on how to get freebies

FudgeFun
10-20-13, 23:54
I am planning a trip to Kyoto and was wonderingif any brother there has had experience in deriheru of non-Japanese, I. E. Koreans, Chinese or Europeans / Russians / whites, would be kind enough to share that experience. I figure since I am a gaijin, perhaps the chances of me getting serviced by another gaijin would enhanced more than a Japanese. By the way, I am Asian, speak fluent English, but very little Japanese.

KyotoJin
10-21-13, 03:46
I am planning a trip to Kyoto and was wondering if any brother there has had experience in deriheru of non-Japanese, I. E. Koreans, Chinese or Europeans / Russians / whites, would be kind enough to share that experience. I figure since I am a gaijin, perhaps the chances of me getting serviced by another gaijin would enhanced more than a Japanese. By the way, I am Asian, speak fluent English, but very little Japanese.Especially Deriheru is really reliant on how much Japanese you can speak. I've done the Korean DH a couple of times and I've seen a few deriheru offering Europeans (mostly from Russia if I remember right) , but even if the girl can speak English the guy answering the phone most likely can't, and he's who you have to go through first. If you go to a massage place, a lot of them are run by Chinese so if you speak Mandarin you can probably get a discount.

FudgeFun
10-21-13, 07:20
Especially Deriheru is really reliant on how much Japanese you can speak. I've done the Korean DH a couple of times and I've seen a few deriheru offering Europeans (mostly from Russia if I remember right) , but even if the girl can speak English the guy answering the phone most likely can't, and he's who you have to go through first. If you go to a massage place, a lot of them are run by Chinese so if you speak Mandarin you can probably get a discount.Thanks KyotoJin for your prompt and helpful answer. Guess I'd try MP run by Chinese first, and ask them to help.

Cheers

Saint Of Killers
11-17-13, 14:21
Went to Yanchana Neko the other day and got Momoiro, who I've had before. Was hoping to get some FS from her for being a repeat customer (I read reports she does FS for repeaters) but it was a no go. Here's her profile: http://yanneko1.com/galData3766.html

Even without FS it was still good. Her BJ is some of the best I've had (either she's good or I just haven't had great BJs, heh) and she let me shoot twice in her mouth even though she normally doesn't go for that. Thinking that I might go for her a third time and see if I can get FS, and if I can't then try someone else.

On an unrelated note, anyone been to Tobita recently? Recommendations on good shops and girls?

Suzaku
11-28-13, 08:10
Hello everyone,

I'm an Asian male living in Osaka and I'll go to Kyoto this weekend. Is there any place I can get FS for the price of 10000-20000yen? I heard about the "Gojo Rakuen" before, is it true that after the police raid that place is deserted? Some said it's semi-active. Does someone know about it?

Illegal
12-08-13, 06:37
Below is a summary of my experiences over the past couple of years when visiting Osaka, not to give all the details (been a while since visiting anyway) , but to give some personal details of my experiences that may be helpful to others beyond the other information already in this forum, and which is hopefully helpful.

Also, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations on a gaijin-friendly pink salon (BJ bar) in the Osaka area (in addition to Club Queen)!

I have visited Club Queen, Tobita, Shinsaibashi and Club Amour, and each are easy enough to find based on directions on this forum (some details below though).

Club Queen is a BJ bar (BBBJCIM) in Tennoji near the Hoop department store with free low-end beer that I have visited 3 times. The tout has always been the same and will welcome in gaijin. Options are 7500 yen for 30 minutes and 10000 yen for 40 minutes. It opens at 4pm, I think 7 days a week. I usually will drink one beer quickly, get it refilled before the girl settles in, and maybe get a third, but once I got there when the place opened and the girl was running late, so the tout served me a couple and then she served a couple after arrival.

- First time I got Manami, she is around 41-42 now, not attractive, overweight, but personable and seems proud to know the English term "deepthroat" though I wouldn't say she actually accomplishes it. She does a good job at taking care of the business though after some friendly conversation. First time there but not on a later visit, she put tits in my face while stroking the shaft, then put her mouth to work.

- Second time there, maybe 6 months later, again Manami walks up, but before settling in, gets called away, has an apparent regular. That was fine by me, as I was looking for something different, so I instead got Shinobu. She was older, not attractive, okay conversation, but fabulous tits that I got to play with, followed up by the BJ, which was not as good as Shinobu, but I had just arrived into town after a long flight, so it may have been me a bit too, though she seemed to use the hand with the mouth expecting a lot out of the hand action which is not what I am looking for out of a BJ bar. Time was about expired with her but I let her know I was real close, and she put in the effort to finish up without any additional charge or break in the action.

- Third time there was maybe a week later, got Manami again, this was the time she was running late so I had a couple of beers before her arrival and a couple of more there, again some personable conversation and satisfactory BJ, but I really would prefer more attractive, less weight.

- I tried it three times, and get the impression there might be just those two girls, but am not entirely sure. I will try again at least a time or two, because (a) it is the only gaijin-friendly BJ bar in the Osaka area I know of, (be) I know the "talent" can accomplish the task, and (see) I hope that to find some new talent rotating in at some point.

Tobita is an amazing resource in the Osaka area (midosuji line, dobutsuenmae station, exit 2, turn right into covered street, walk 10 minutes to last covered left, where overpass above curves ahead shortly) , it is an area with several streets of full service girls (starting generally with a covered BJ) , with prices based on the amount of time. 16000 yen for 20 minutes, and up from there. I have been 3 times, and the first time actually got BBBJ before full service, which surprised me given all the reports are covered BJ, but later trips with other girls were covered BJ. You walk the streets and see girls in little rooms along the street with a mamasan, who half the time will be inviting and half will say nothing if you are a gaijin. Most of the girls use push-up bras to make their tits appear bigger, so don't select purely based on that. My first girl there was 28, cute with thin body, good but brief BBBJ, and starting moaning immediately upon entry, which was a bit too fakey, but whatever. The second girl there was 24, really cute with nice tits, great covered BJ, but relatively placid during the sex. The third girl there was 21 and fake blond, cute but small tits, good covered BJ, but a total fish and didn't allow doggy-style. Some girls were quiet in the rooms when walking by, some would smile, and some would be outgoing, trying with the mamasan to bring you in. I think I will focus on the women who appear more receptive in the future, and not just based on being cute, young, false advertising pushed-up tits, etc. And would suggest the same for others. I believe I did 30 minutes the first time there (21000 yen?) , to get a feel for the system (time starts when you pay to go up, I believe, then a bell will lightly ring when there are 5 or so minutes left) , and then 20 minutes on later trips.

Shinsaibashi is an area north of Namba, and the sex area seems to be east and north east of Dotombori bridge. Late night, outside of Club Pure, or streets further northeast near Blarney Stone, etc, women will street solicit for 3000 yen massage, but is really for Chinese sex upsell usually. First time, was offered 6000 yen massage and HJ, only had 5000 yen though, she took it, and did a good job. So I didn't realize about the upsales generally available, so subsequently experienced the 3000 yen massage a couple of times, which basically just gets you into a room, very brief poor massage, leading into a discussion for paying more money for them to bring in Chinese woman for BJ or full service, but each experience involved too much money and poor service (got a nut, but generally not personable) , so I suggest if approached for solicitation in this area, to be very clear about everything that will be included and the total price, to avoid being lured in cheaply and then being expensively upsold once they have you hard and clearly wanting more. There may be more than Chinese options in this area, but that seemed to be the bulk, as I have been approached by girls that I think were Japanese and had different approaches than the Chinese massage upsells, but I have yet to explore those further.

Club Amour is a few blocks west of the north side of Dotombori bridge, and is a fashion health place that allows gaijin. I have only been once, took the 40 minute package without paying extra to choose a girl (not remembering, but 40 minutes may have been 12000 or 14000 yen?). I went midafternoon, and even without specifying a girl, I still had to wait, but there was no one else around, so they may not really have many girls, even though it appears they do based on the pictures, website, etc. I got Anna. 26, who was okay cute with a nice ass and somewhat personable. It started with a wash while sitting on a stool, get in the bath, get on the mat for a lubed-up slip and slide with the girl, which was fun, she did a good job of rubbing her body over me, stroking my shaft, but not enough BBBJ for me (it seemed more for show for a brief while, with a focus on HJ finish, when I was expecting more and hoping for BBBJCIM) , a lot of HJ while behind the ass so simulated sex-like. There was no hint of full service available. It was a fun experience and will try again perhaps with two girls and see how much better BBBJ may be with other providers, but do not have high hopes. After finish, girl cleans you off and cleans off mat (cleaned off before use too). Similar to Tobita, there is a bell about 5 minutes before time finishes. One benefit is that in the summer, you get washed off, with the Japanese heat and humidity, this is good to get refreshed, perhaps before going to dinner and the night out on the town.

Hope this helps!

P. S. Hinomaru in Shinjuku, Tokyo was a good pink salon (BJ bar) experience! Tout on the street welcomes gaijin, get a selection of decent girls (compared with Club Queen) to pick from a board, and price is lower than Club Queen (though Hinomaru is without the free beer).

Dirk67
12-10-13, 05:28
Tobita is an amazing resource in the Osaka area (midosuji line, dobutsuenmae station, exit 2, turn right into covered street, walk 10 minutes to last covered left, where overpass above curves ahead shortly) , it is an area with several streets of full service girls (starting generally with a covered BJ) , with prices based on the amount of time. 16000 yen for 20 minutes, and up from there. I have been 3 times, and the first time actually got BBBJ before full service, which surprised me given all the reports are covered BJ, but later trips with other girls were covered BJ. You walk the streets and see girls in little rooms along the street with a mamasan, who half the time will be inviting and half will say nothing if you are a gaijin. Most of the girls use push-up bras to make their tits appear bigger, so don't select purely based on that. My first girl there was 28, cute with thin body, good but brief BBBJ, and starting moaning immediately upon entry, which was a bit too fakey, but whatever. The second girl there was 24, really cute with nice tits, great covered BJ, but relatively placid during the sex. The third girl there was 21 and fake blond, cute but small tits, good covered BJ, but a total fish and didn't allow doggy-style. Some girls were quiet in the rooms when walking by, some would smile, and some would be outgoing, trying with the mamasan to bring you in. I think I will focus on the women who appear more receptive in the future, and not just based on being cute, young, false advertising pushed-up tits, etc. And would suggest the same for others. I believe I did 30 minutes the first time there (21000 yen?) , to get a feel for the system (time starts when you pay to go up, I believe, then a bell will lightly ring when there are 5 or so minutes left) , and then 20 minutes on later trips.Great summary. Tobita is definitely a great place, though I am gaijin, I am Asian, so every shop was calling out to me. Nice to be able to window shop before selecting, and for the most part seeing what you get in advance. I found a really cute girl with the most perfect tits and nice, slim body, but I was a little drunk so I didn't take note of her name, age, nor the shop! She couldn't have been more than 25, 26 though. It was near the end of one of the east-west streets that has a turn to the south at the end of the street on the east side. It wasn't cheap (prices quoted here accurate) , and the service more basic (no TS, but offered tea / water and a wet towel) , but very straightforward and you know exactly what's going to happen for the most part. Went around 10pm, lots of guys wandering around and cars driving by slowly window shopping. May make a special trip to Osaka in the future just for Tobita!

CodeX
12-13-13, 16:08
Its good to see some helpful posts in this section again.

After playing in Kansai for a while I came to the conclusion that getting into the worthwhile places is dependent on your Japanese ability.

The main reason is that there are a lot of goofs who enter establishments with a superiority complex. J-girls are uncomfortable with that and ask their minders to disallow foreigners who want to impose their desires.

Showing you can speak Japanese shows you have taken time to understand their culture, and that you are willing to be submissive.

If you can speak Japanese, pay no more than ₯12,000 per 40mins for a Japanese girl.

If you can't speak Japanese, go to Tobita or Club Amour or be willing to pay ₯15,000 or above for a ST service.

For a rub and tug (by non-Japanese) , anything over ₯8000 fucks it up for everybody.

I have been to many places on my own dime and found some great places, cute Japanese who are willing to try anything.

Its not a part of their charge, so just ask them and be prepared for a no answer.

If you get a yes, treat it as a gift.

Dreams
12-14-13, 11:58
After playing in Kansai for a while I came to the conclusion that getting into the worthwhile places is dependent on your Japanese ability.So true!

I have been playing regularly in Japan since 20+ years, and most of the time, although I had a good time, I was left.

Then I decided to start learning the language. I am now at a very basic level, JLPT4-5, but that is far enough to get me in almost any shop (except those really closed to non japanese people). So often, does the tencho asks me something in japanese, and I respond in japanese. Then the door opens. Same with the girls, when I open my mouth and speak in Japanese, their face shows first surprise and then lightens and everything goes uphill from there.

Bros, just make the effort, learn a bit of japanese, and enjoy!

Zukkpo3
01-01-14, 19:20
I couldn't find most of the places on my list. If you speak Japanese you ought to call or send a message. Judging from the Tokyo board there are many places that will scam you out of your money.Dear friends,

So I finally got the courage to try the Osaka Hinnyu Jogakuen (http://www.ohj358.com/main/). I had to prepare exactly what to order since it was no email, just by mobilephone, and the guy only spoke Japanese, which I speak to a certain degree. We agreed on price, time and place, but I couldn't chose the girl (I think).

We met at the agreed spot, she took me by the hand to a nearby Love hotel, and we spent a very nice time together. She was quite a stunner, slender and with small firm tits. Gave great BBBJ's. 69's etc, but fucking was dame (not possible). All in all a nice experience, but unsure if I will return. Total damage for 90 minutes was 25. 000- including a tip of 1000. I had a much nicer night with an old lover of mine from almost 30years back in Kyushu a couple of days before. Old love never fades.

Regards,

Zukkpo

Bob Davis
01-07-14, 16:55
Decided to hit Tobita twice in a one month period, after a 9 month absence. Took a friend (also foreigner) both times, just to introduce him to the area. First time had quite a bit of 8s. 9s, and maybe a ten. Second time was a little bit more slim pickings. Both times were on a Monday afternoon between 4 and 6. Service was fantastic as usual from both girls, so nothing big to report there. But a few things I did notice, that may help others out.

• The seemed very willing to drop the price when it was slow, even going as far as 11, 000 for 30 minutes with one of the B team girls.

• One shop was not keen at all for foreigners. After a few laps and smiling each time and saying a quick konichwa, they warmed up to us and let me play. This tells me that a little persistence can go your way here. Maybe she was shy? The girl was very nice and giving, and I didn't get any "just going through the motions" feelings from her.

• Our hit rate was about 50, and some shops even had a little plastic card with English that showed how much / time. It started at 20 minutes though, even though the wall sign says cheapest is 15 minutes.

• My friend doesn't speak any Japanese. I'd just introduce him, tell mama he doesn't speak Japanese, and mama usually had no problems.

Few questions that I did have though, off the cuff:

• hypothetically, are the mamas pay for play too?

• We noticed that the Japanese guys will stand in the doorway for a long while. Are they negotiating?

• Club Queen in Osaka, what time does it open? I've seen reports say afternoon, but the site says 20:00 (I think I'm reading it right).

Hope these things help others, and remember, we are all ambassadors for foreign people, so if we make good, it will become easier for us!

Sakaisuji
01-08-14, 10:27
Decided to hit Tobita twice in a one month period, after a 9 month absence. Took a friend (also foreigner) both times, just to introduce him to the area. First time had quite a bit of 8s. 9s, and maybe a ten. Second time was a little bit more slim pickings. Both times were on a Monday afternoon between 4 and 6. Service was fantastic as usual from both girls, so nothing big to report there. But a few things I did notice, that may help others out.

• The seemed very willing to drop the price when it was slow, even going as far as 11, 000 for 30 minutes with one of the B team girls.

• One shop was not keen at all for foreigners. After a few laps and smiling each time and saying a quick konichwa, they warmed up to us and let me play. This tells me that a little persistence can go your way here. Maybe she was shy? The girl was very nice and giving, and I didn't get any "just going through the motions" feelings from her...It opens at 4:30. I'm not sure that the Club Queen near Hoop has a web site.

Camieleke
01-08-14, 12:07
I am just back from a short Japan trip.

Kyoto: Bangkok Hands is a Thai massage place close to the Nishiki Market in Kyoto. When you come out of the market street, just before Daimaru Departement.

Store (Back entrance) you will find this place.

A body oil massage cost you 8000 Yen for one hour including a free HJ.

Osake: In a small parallel street of Dotonbori in Osaka, you will find a massage place named Izumi.

There is a very nice and cute Chinese girl offering 90Minutes massage for 9000 Yen including a HJ.

I am still a fan of those massage places. They offer a real good massage with some happy ending.