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That website also has a review of THC:
"The Tokyo Hentai Club (THC) is an escort service and adult entertainment establishment located in Tokyo, Japan. The Tokyo Hentai Club is known for offering a wide range of sexual services, but is considered to be very expensive and not foreigner-friendly. A series of police raids in the past is also a cause for concern.
The Tokyo Hentai Club caters primarily to Japanese customers, and is not known to be friendly to foreigners and other non-Japanese speakers. There is a language barrier between the staff and customers, which makes intimate interactions tricky. The vast majority of the escorts working at the Tokyo Hentai Club do not speak English.
Despite its controversial nature, the Tokyo Hentai Club is somewhat popular among locals in Tokyo. It remains tricky for foreigners who want to use their services. Tokyo Hentai Club operates in a legal grey area, and there is always some risk associated with engaging in adult entertainment services at facilities where police raids are common. ".
Trying to deter possible THC customers?
Teltel.Ok did I miss something which website posted that review.
Ok did I miss something which website posted that review.Look at posts by Kevin X69.
Teltel.
Look at posts by Kevin X69.
Teltel.Finally saw it, LOL after reading it makes his post and hate for thc make a whole lot more sense. He also tried last yearr to promote that website. Looking back at his history and every post is about that one website lol definitely suspect.
I'm glad you enjoyed it that much. I'll check them out one day. I mostly stick to trusted Okubo girls I've met on Twitter. You can get a good deals from them too. One date I had only charged 30 k (roughly $200) and before we did the deed, she gave me a mini tour of the area and introduced me to some of her friends. The connections you make that way can lead to finding incredible girls.How do you find the Okubo girls on twitter?
Joe Karnavic
03-17-24, 15:58
That website also has a review of THC:
"The Tokyo Hentai Club (THC) is an escort service and adult entertainment establishment located in Tokyo, Japan. The Tokyo Hentai Club is known for offering a wide range of sexual services, but is considered to be very expensive and not foreigner-friendly. A series of police raids in the past is also a cause for concern.
The Tokyo Hentai Club caters primarily to Japanese customers, and is not known to be friendly to foreigners and other non-Japanese speakers. There is a language barrier between the staff and customers, which makes intimate interactions tricky. The vast majority of the escorts working at the Tokyo Hentai Club do not speak English.
Teltel.I have used the services of THC (Tokyo Hentai Club) few years ago and had wonderful experience. Me and my friend were staying in a Shinjuku hotel and we got two girls in our hotel. Both girls spoke good english. I remember my girl's name was Erica and she gave superlative performance. THC caters to foreigners for sure. They handle things professionally and are very organized. My girl spoke good english and we were in touch for quite some time.
Pegasus887
03-25-24, 02:18
Back from a recent trip to Tokyo, had to pop in THC in Kabukicho to kick things off. I've had bad experiences with them in the past but this time round no issues. Met one of the Diamonds / rec FS with 30 k tip. Pricey though the exchange rates make up for it.
Did the rounds at Jan Jan after dinner at Ueno and ended up going to why-shirt the next before visiting Asakusa.
Final round at GFE Soapland before flying out.
I'll be back again in a few months.
Thanks.
Anyone tried or heard anything about Muryo-Annai-Jyos like yorunandesu.net? It looks like they help foreigners for no cost and get a kickback, and provide help getting services and into places. I'm especially curious because I'm hoping to check out an oppabu and I know those can be difficult to get into without great japanese (I dabble at best). Hoping it's not some kind of convoluted scam.
Anyone tried or heard anything about Muryo-Annai-Jyos like yorunandesu.net? It looks like they help foreigners for no cost and get a kickback, and provide help getting services and into places. I'm especially curious because I'm hoping to check out an oppabu and I know those can be difficult to get into without great japanese (I dabble at best). Hoping it's not some kind of convoluted scam.
So I'm moving to the greater Tokyo area soon, and I was wondering if anyone would mind clarifying something for me: What is "AF" exactly? Is it actually anal w / o or is it a sneaky way to offer BBFS without getting into any trouble? I've heard conflicting stories. Thank you in advance to those or that who answers.
So I'm moving to the greater Tokyo area soon, and I was wondering if anyone would mind clarifying something for me: What is "AF" exactly? Is it actually anal w / o or is it a sneaky way to offer BBFS without getting into any trouble? I've heard conflicting stories. Thank you in advance to those or that who answers.AF means "anal fuck". It implies that vaginal sex is on the table if you pay for the AF option. I've paid for the AF option in the past and only got vaginal sex. Minus Soaplands and Shinchi's in Osaka, selling vaginal sex is illegal. I'm sure BBFS is on the table if you're willing to pay extra for it.
Some delivery health providers will end a session early if you try to negotiate for sex though. They'll collect your fee, notify their agency, and leave. I always let the provider start the negotiation process for sex.
Blak Casper
03-27-24, 06:18
So I'm moving to the greater Tokyo area soon, and I was wondering if anyone would mind clarifying something for me: What is "AF" exactly? Is it actually anal w / o or is it a sneaky way to offer BBFS without getting into any trouble? I've heard conflicting stories. Thank you in advance to those or that who answers.Spend a week or more reading through this forum, all of your questions are a nswered.
I'm coming to Tokyo in two weeks and have a wealth of info from this forum and some of the links found here.
If you're actually moving to Tokyo, you owe it to yourself to read, read and read some more.
AussieGaigin
03-28-24, 01:39
Due to some vagaries in Japan's sex laws, it seems advertising "AF" is "legal" but directly suggesting VF is offered is not legal. What you end up getting is really what you negotiate with the girl at the time. Shops / Agencies are obviously not going to clarify what actual services might be available.
Due to some vagaries in Japan's sex laws, it seems advertising "AF" is "legal" but directly suggesting VF is offered is not legal. What you end up getting is really what you negotiate with the girl at the time. Shops / Agencies are obviously not going to clarify what actual services might be available.Just to clarify you'll always notice anal is optional. The shop will always tell you it's between you and due to size the girl can tell you no if she doesn't want to and then you'll get nothing. Also there are the rare ones that will only do anal fuck LOL.
FlyHigher767
03-28-24, 20:15
Flying into Tokyo soon. Visited often but first time looking for FS. I have read through this forum and I don't seem to understand the scene at all.
Seems to be a lot of nuance and read between the lines? I am just seeking a girl, BBBJ and FS plus nice experience. I only have a 48 hour layover.
If possible please point me (an older gentleman) to where I can find a nice FS experience.
Thank you.
Flysafe.
Ernstblofeld
03-30-24, 19:47
Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.
Flying into Tokyo soon. Visited often but first time looking for FS. I have read through this forum and I don't seem to understand the scene at all.
Seems to be a lot of nuance and read between the lines? I am just seeking a girl, BBBJ and FS plus nice experience. I only have a 48 hour layover.
If possible please point me (an older gentleman) to where I can find a nice FS experience.
Thank you.
Flysafe.
Big Boss Man
03-30-24, 23:52
Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.The Kadoebi Group soaplands are all foreigner friendly but expect a 10 k yen surcharge. I went to one high end soapland where they asked for 75 k yen but the majority are 34 k for seventy minutes. IMO, it's not a good value but it was something I wanted to do having never been in Japan. I ended up going to 3 different soaplands and the experience was very consistent. Unless you speak Japanese or want to come twice in a session it might be better to take the 50 minute option. Here is a link. There are a number of stores. https://www.kadoebi.co.jp/.
I'm going to be going to Tokyo in a few weeks for the first time ever. Based on my limited research so far, looking for relatively safe / established, English-speaking services, I seem to have narrowed down on planning a visit to GFE Soapland in Kawasaki at some point during my visit. However, I'm still a bit unsure about what exactly I should go in expecting. I am fairly new to this entire thing, and a lot of the sources I have come across have been using a lot of shorthand and innuendo I'm not very familiar with, while also being kinda coy about the experience in general. My only previous experience has been a few places in Central Europe.
To be as direct and up-front as possible, if I go for a 45 or 60 minute session, what all would normally be "included" in the charge? I remember European AMPS tended to only include the HJ in the price of entry, and anything else was up for additional negotiation between you and the provider. How does it work in Japan / in GFE Soapland?
I'm going to be going to Tokyo in a few weeks for the first time ever. Based on my limited research so far, looking for relatively safe / established, English-speaking services, I seem to have narrowed down on planning a visit to GFE Soapland in Kawasaki at some point during my visit. However, I'm still a bit unsure about what exactly I should go in expecting. I am fairly new to this entire thing, and a lot of the sources I have come across have been using a lot of shorthand and innuendo I'm not very familiar with, while also being kinda coy about the experience in general. My only previous experience has been a few places in Central Europe.
To be as direct and up-front as possible, if I go for a 45 or 60 minute session, what all would normally be "included" in the charge? I remember European AMPS tended to only include the HJ in the price of entry, and anything else was up for additional negotiation between you and the provider. How does it work in Japan / in GFE Soapland?Everything is included in a soapland establishment in Tokyo, including vaginal sex. The only thing you might experience is culture shock in regards to sex work. It's a streamlined process and feels like ordering from a menu at times.
I'm going to be going to Tokyo in a few weeks for the first time ever. Based on my limited research so far, looking for relatively safe / established, English-speaking services, I seem to have narrowed down on planning a visit to GFE Soapland in Kawasaki at some point during my visit. However, I'm still a bit unsure about what exactly I should go in expecting. I am fairly new to this entire thing, and a lot of the sources I have come across have been using a lot of shorthand and innuendo I'm not very familiar with, while also being kinda coy about the experience in general. My only previous experience has been a few places in Central Europe.
To be as direct and up-front as possible, if I go for a 45 or 60 minute session, what all would normally be "included" in the charge? I remember European AMPS tended to only include the HJ in the price of entry, and anything else was up for additional negotiation between you and the provider. How does it work in Japan / in GFE Soapland?GFE soapland is a valid soapland welcoming foreigners. So, for a 45 or 60-minute course, you can expect your body gets washed, (with condom) you can cum one time in mutually beloved sex with the girl, and your body is quickly washed again.
For more detail about going to soapland, I suggest reading this post here. https://www.foreigner-friendly-soapland.net/play-guide/
Pegasus887
04-04-24, 03:21
GFE soapland is a valid soapland welcoming foreigners. So, for a 45 or 60-minute course, you can expect your body gets washed, (with condom) you can cum one time in mutually beloved sex with the girl, and your body is quickly washed again.
For more detail about going to soapland, I suggest reading this post here. https://www.foreigner-friendly-soapland.net/play-guide/No offence but you are going to get roasted here trying to attempt this kind of stuff.
Please report.
No offence but you are going to get roasted here trying to attempt this kind of stuff.
Please report.So that website is a fake and scam but GFE soapland isn't just visited there last week. It's not a good soapland comparatively but it will get the job done. Unlike other soaplands the girls focus so much on the sexual side that the massage and mat play suck. It's a cheap reasonable way to get a decent meet up. It is more of brothel than a soapland though.
The Kadoebi Group soaplands are all foreigner friendly but expect a 10 k yen surcharge. I went to one high end soapland where they asked for 75 k yen but the majority are 34 k for seventy minutes. IMO, it's not a good value but it was something I wanted to do having never been in Japan. I ended up going to 3 different soaplands and the experience was very consistent. Unless you speak Japanese or want to come twice in a session it might be better to take the 50 minute option. Here is a link. There are a number of stores. https://www.kadoebi.co.jp/.I'm planning my first trip ever in October for 2 weeks. Trying to read as much as I can before going. A bit daunting. I've been sorting through the various ads on the Kadoebi link that you sent (much appreciated! Is the high-end soapland for 75 k part of this group or is it a different store.
Again thanks for the insight, mongering here seems like quite a different experience than Latin America and Europe. Even Thailand. Very excited to go for the first time. A bucket list stop for me.
Pegasus887
04-08-24, 02:10
I'm planning my first trip ever in October for 2 weeks. Trying to read as much as I can before going. A bit daunting. I've been sorting through the various ads on the Kadoebi link that you sent (much appreciated! Is the high-end soapland for 75 k part of this group or is it a different store.
Again thanks for the insight, mongering here seems like quite a different experience than Latin America and Europe. Even Thailand. Very excited to go for the first time. A bucket list stop for me.Kadoebi is a major soapland group and has been around for decades, good research. Let us know how it goes.
Kadoebi is a major soapland group and has been around for decades, good research. Let us know how it goes.Do they have different pricing for different women. The previous poster said some women were significantly more expensive. Not the end of the world for me especially if the quality of girl and sex is better?
For me, it is going to be a one off experience. I understand that some posters in the thread might have different expectations on pricing because they live in Tokyo and are regulars. I'm looking to have a great time and experience as much as possible because I don't know when and if I can get back again.
Thanks for any insight that you can provide!
ClosetPervert9
04-12-24, 22:26
Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.Honestly, you're not liekly to find any. Your best bet is to head to the Asakusa area. There are 2 or 3 soaplands online that are foreigner friendly but if you visit in the daytime especially on a week day, you'll see many other soaplands will wave you in. That said, it's best to do your research on a number of the soapys in the area so you can make sure you're getting a decent one. Some will have outdated and / or edited photos of the staff for this reason, be careful.
AussieGaigin
04-13-24, 06:09
Hello Guiders,
Travelling to Tokyo this month for a week. Any good soul can provide some insights and pointers would be really helpful. Also any tips on to DOs and DONTs at Japan.
Foreign friendly soaplands in and around Shinjuku?
Thanks.You should be able to find plenty of info by reading back through the posts. There is no need for secret DMs here.
EscortLover7
04-18-24, 10:47
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Just back from several days last week in Shinjuku and I'm here to report that the BJ scene appears to be dead for Gaijen in Shinjuku. (Lots of other options for gaijen) This forum mentions "Peep Madonna in the heart of Kabukicho, across from the Godzilla head, at Kabukicho Tower. Strip show followed by HJ. One of the cheapest handjobs in all of Tokyo. " This doesn't appear to exist anymore. No establishment by that name anywhere on Google maps in Shinjuku. No establishment similar in the basement of the Kabukicho Tower.
Previously there was mention of "Happy Hirano", a pink salon (BJ parlour) "3 F Ashibe-Kaikan, 2-36-3 Kabukicho, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160-0021" However there is no such place at that address anymore.
I asked around Shinjuku, but could find no BJ bars or action other than what one gets by booking a girl from one of the shops for a health deli takeout option at a much higher than expected price.
However. Jay Jay is still going strong in Sugano, This location is easily reached from the Sugano Station on the JR line. I visited twice. It's a 5 minute walk from the station and fairly easy to find on the right hand side of the street with a flashing pick sign out from indicating JPY 3,000 as the price. Down one level to the basement by steps and into the dark room with 12 high backed cubicals, actually more like rectangular benches with 1. 3 meter high backs. I arrived around 5:00 pm and there seemed to be 3 or 4 other customers, both Japanese and foreigners, I paid first, 4000 (including the 1,000 gaijen tax), was lead to a dark cubical and sat on low cushioned bench covered by a black towel.
The first time I didn't request any particular lady and after sometime the manager directed a woman in a long black dress to me. It was dark and difficult to see her face, but her body looked slim. She said Hello, and gestured for me to pull down my pants while keeping my shoes on (definitely keep those shoe on. The floor looks like some spulg was slowly drying). She then pulled her dress down to her waist and removed her panties while keeping the dress bunched around her narrow waist. She took a sanitised cloth and cleaned my equipment and gave me another antiseptic cloth to wipe my hands and then she crouched across the couch and got to work. It was an excellent blowjob. While she had her head in my crotch my hands were free to roam her body, which I did, discovering a very thin frame with small tits and a large lightly haired cnut which was surprisingly wet. I fingered her quite aggressively and she emitted small gasps, I took my wet fingers and massaged her asshole, eventually penetrating it with some force. My other hand squeezed her tiny soft tits and pulled her large mommy nipples. She was surprisingly accommodating to all of this.
4,000 gives you 30 minutes, at 20 minutes she had some alarm which went off and she indicated that time was almost up. Her skill was sufficient and expert for me to not need extra time. Afterwards she cleaned up, said thank you and left.
I returned a day later around 13:00 and asked the manager for different woman with bigger tits. This was very similar to the first, but she had much larger tits with large nipples which were good for stretching. She neglected to remove her panties, so once she began, I reached around and simply pulled them off her, sliding them down to her feet and off. She assisted without complaint. Otherwise the session was much the same as the first.
Overall, it was a unique experience. I had expected to be slightly repulsed by a 40 yr woman sucking me off, but it was actually a turn-on. Must be somewhat humiliating for the women to be doing this. Its dark and their appearance is difficult to see very well, which makes them almost anonymous, like getting shoeshine while you read a paper. The woman, judging by from their saggy breasts were all MILFs, but otherwise had trim bodies and surprisingly tight pussies. The darkness and the thrill of having a woman's hot mouth on your cock in a dark place with other men being quietly serviced at the same time was a turn on. And, the woman, like so many Japanese girls, were extremely service oriented, obedient, and submissive to my perhaps callous treatment of their tits and cnuts. Something totally different from anything I have ever done before. Totally recommend the experience and I will be back.
Upon leaving, I noticed two other shops directly across the street. One with a price of 5,000 accepts gaijen, the other seemed closed.
Attached are photos of location of the BJ bars in Sugano.Based on the above I ventured to Jan Jan on Friday at noon (Japan's Friday since it's Friday now in the States). Easy to find, and down the steps I went. Got the immediate gaijin price of 4 k and was led to a bench right past a guy getting his BJ. Was a little startling at the moment because everything was just so out in the open. Waited about 5 minutes for an older (40?) woman to show up. Could hear slurping around me as I waited and almost started laughing. She did the wipe down, then started in to the action with her dress pulled down and her panties off. It wasn't all the best for me for two reasons: 1 was that I didn't find her all that attractive, and 2 was that she kept going way fast no matter how many times I asked her to slow down. So I ran out of time! She let me know that for another 4 k I could get another girl, so I paid up and waited, and am really glad I did. A young, tight body showed up and was super sweet and understood when I said to please go slow. Dress came down but the panties didn't. So based on the above report I gently started to take them off and she helped in a heartbeat. This time I was not only super attracted to the girl but she went slow as requested so I was in happy land in 5 minutes. Kind of surprised as to how long she kept her mouth on junior as I blew, and after it took her a while to get rid of the load, but did so gracefully (if that's possible), LOL. Helped me clean up and get dressed and chatted just a bit. She was super sweet and walked me to the door. I'll repeat in a heartbeat but ask the owner for anyone other than the First Lady (though she did make her next client blow in like 3 minutes after she left me). They were right in front of me so I could tell by her head disappearing then popping back up.
Big Boss Man
04-20-24, 22:05
I'm planning my first trip ever in October for 2 weeks. Trying to read as much as I can before going. A bit daunting. I've been sorting through the various ads on the Kadoebi link that you sent (much appreciated! Is the high-end soapland for 75 k part of this group or is it a different store.
Again thanks for the insight, mongering here seems like quite a different experience than Latin America and Europe. Even Thailand. Very excited to go for the first time. A bucket list stop for me.Spa Yoki was the expensive one.
I've been checking this forum for long time, but this is my first post.
Last month, I was in Japan for two weeks as a business traveler, and I tried a session with a girl from Ultra Omotenashi. My friend introduced this agency. I was told they are foreigner-friendly escort agency.
First of all, I connected with them via their LINE account, which I found on their website. Once connected, there was no problem having several long chats with them. They were very helpful and patient with all my questions. The provider's pictures on their website seemed edited to me, so I told them what I liked and asked for their recommendation. My friend advised me to do so. I mentioned I preferred someone tall, slender, with a tight figure and a great smile. They then provided some pictures for me, and I chose Appleberry.
Summary:
Name: AppleBerry (23 yo on the website, but a bit older than that, still very young).
English: No (She has a small translation device with her).
Face: 4/5 Definitely her picture on website was edited, but she was better in person.
Body: 4/5 As I've requested, she was tall, slender, with tight figure.
Skill: 4/5 good, good BBBJ, DFK, Sixty nine with two pops.
Attitude: 5/5, great smile with great hospitality.
Total Damage: JPY 93300 (JPY 90000 and JPY 3300 for premium surcharge).
First of all, they said it's "Nominationa Fee" and I didn't understand it. It just wrong google translation and it is simply "Premium Surcharge for Each Providers. ".
120 minutes including unlimited pops, DFK, whole body licking, BBBJ, fingering, Sumata.
Everything was set up via the LINE app without a problem, and I met her in front of the elevator at the lobby of my 5-star hotel. One thing that made me nervous was that she was with her driver, and I handed the payment to him. They said they did this for first-timers.
AppleBerry was slender and very tall for a Japanese woman. She had a good figure with a tight ass. Her body was simply amazing. Her smile was great, no matter what service was being performed. She is skilled and dedicated to her craft. She didn't just go through the motions or rely solely on her looks. It was very clear that she wanted to make sure I was satisfied. This helps explain why she came highly recommended.
I had a great time with her and will definitely see her again, or try meeting someone else from this agency, when I come back to Japan this June.
Thank you, Jake.
Ernstblofeld
04-21-24, 16:48
Hi,
Am in Shinjuku for last 5 days and as a first time visitor it is very difficult to monger here, though everything seems to be on there at kabukicho but it's difficult to understand what are they and felt high at Price by looking at few websites and more importantly the touts makes you feel nervous and walk away. I wish there was a local guide who could have helped mongering and helping in visiting stores.
Steve 9696
04-21-24, 18:03
Hi,
Am in Shinjuku for last 5 days and as a first time visitor it is very difficult to monger here, though everything seems to be on there at kabukicho but it's difficult to understand what are they and felt high at Price by looking at few websites and more importantly the touts makes you feel nervous and walk away. I wish there was a local guide who could have helped mongering and helping in visiting stores.Just face the fact it's expensive. It's Tokyo. Then go to hentaitokyo.com and pick a well reviewed girl who is working. Meetup walk to love hotel. Easy. Couldn't be easier. And great girls if you pick a well reviewed one.
JinaWrangler
04-22-24, 01:25
Hi all, looking at a first time Tokyo trip next winter. I've read 10 pages, but will go back.
A few Q's that don't seem to be answered in my forum reading:
1) Best hotel options, assuming you want to have visitors? Assume price is not the main priority. Centrally located, good food, etc.
2) At the soaplands, do you get to choose the girls in advance from a group? I like to pre-select and that seems to be a problem with online sites.
3) Speaking of 2), do the online sites like Tokyo Hentai Club have pretty accurate pics (or photoshop nonsense)? I honestly don't trust other people's ratings of girls.
4) WTH is an Okubo girl and how do you find them on Twitter?
TIA, everyone.
Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!!
Captain Solo
04-26-24, 19:43
I was about to recommend 3-star Premier Hotel Cabin Shinjuku right next to Okubo Park and hospital, where some street girls hang out, but the rate shot up to $150 with tax $182 in May, WTF? Couple security guards patrolled at the entrance to the park. A few Middle Eastern-looking guys hang out in that corner day and night, allegedly selling drugs. Early one morning, a group of about 20 men and women in dark clothes were brawling noisily on the narrow street right outside my window, shouting, pushing each other around. Had no idea what it was about. They dispersed by about 5 AM.
Meanwhile 3-star APA Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower can be had for $77, with tax $92 in May. It's in the middle of all actions, a short block from Okubo park. Both hotels are girls-friendly.
Very few street girls were around Okubo when I was there in Dec / Jan. The hospital set up barriers with signs, No Standing, on sidewalk, but a few were still standing at the edges. It was freezing cold and rainy some days. Any women, wearing tan over coat, standing around with umbrellas, hand bags, bottles of water, are likely street workers. I walked passed a decent-looking woman in her tan overcoat on sidewalk right next to the hospital's No Standing zone. Tried to make eye contact but she avoided me. Next day walked past an older woman. She was looing at me but she looked very old, ugly like a great grand ma. I passed.
Near hotel Premier Cabin found a tall, very attractive young girl standing under her umbrella in her tan overcoat, showing long, strong legs. She was talking to a Japanese guy a long time before sneaking in the shabby love hotel right behind her.
Looks like the few street girls in Okubo prefer their regular johns. I did not spend a lot of time outside searching due to the freezing cold and rainy weather. Not successful. Warm weather in May could bring better street actions.
Banana Boi
04-26-24, 19:58
WTH is an Okubo girl and how do you find them on Twitter?Hookers that stand around Okubo Park in Kabukicho. Lots of them. A certain Samurai posts videos of them almost nightly.
I'm a fan of professional handjobs, and was thinking about visitting Lovely Hand in Kabukicho. I couldn't find any reviews for that establishment here, but anyone knows if it is an OK place? I heard about the touts in the area, but as along as I don't make eye contact and just go ahead I will be fine, I hope? :-the.
Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!!Ongoing investigations have brought me to find 2 Soap that openly accept foreigners with a "extra option".
* Barbora Marine Blue; next to Shinjuku JR Station Foreigners +20 k.
* Sinkaigyo; Foreigners +10 k and only limited "choice".
Well; at least it is something to start with when I will arrive.
Please, don't keep from helping me with my earlier questions, whenever you have info. Thanks!
Big Poppa II
05-03-24, 00:54
Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
There are two that I know near each other, JanJan and Academy near Sugamo station. I think that Academy changed its name recently. They accept foreigners.
BP
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!!There are two that I know near each other, JanJan and Academy near Sugamo station. I think that Academy changed its name recently. They accept foreigners.
BP.
TallDarkUsa
05-08-24, 07:42
Hello,
This Saturday I have a 6 hour layover at the Tokyo International Airport (Haneda Airport) (HND).
As a first time visitor in Japan I was wondering if there is somewhere close by I can go to. Kill an hour or two. Looking for masssages, BJ bar, wh, or even street girls near the airport.
Any info would!
Globalnomad5
05-08-24, 15:01
https://gfe-japan.net/first-timers
Hello,
This Saturday I have a 6 hour layover at the Tokyo International Airport (Haneda Airport) (HND).
As a first time visitor in Japan I was wondering if there is somewhere close by I can go to. Kill an hour or two. Looking for masssages, BJ bar, wh, or even street girls near the airport.
Any info would!
Captain Solo
05-08-24, 16:49
6-hour layover in Haneda should be enough time to visit the Hentai club in Shinjuku. Depending on what time, it should be open 24/7.
Take the TOKYU express bus to the Shinjuku Tower terminal. Ticket counter is in the arrival terminal with signs "Express Bus" or "Limousine. " Only half hour ride to Shinjuku Tower and a short walk to the Hentai Club. Hentai girls can suggest plenty love hotels within short walking distances.
Check bus schedule for the ride from Shinjuku Tower back to Haneda, or take UBER or taxi. Should not cost a lot.
https://hentaitokyo.com/howtouse
https://hentaitokyo.com/access_shinjuku
Their directions from Shinjuku train station is a longer walk, 10 to 15 minutes.
I tried out two massage shops this week. Asian Feeling (Shinjuku) and Miss Puke (Ueno).
Both were Thai girls, very good English, and actually felt like a proper massage. Standard HJ, they didn't even offer BJ. Could not touch them, they wanted 3 K extra for that.
Overall worth it for the decent massage with the extra.
What I found at Miss Puke was that online their prices were cheaper than the printed pages they hand you. So I just showed them the website price and they matched it.
Will try out Robodeli next.I notice the have the "Thai Massage" and the "Oil Massage" on the menu, which is much more expensive. Does that mean that it's including the he?
MassageLover81
05-13-24, 09:10
I notice the have the "Thai Massage" and the "Oil Massage" on the menu, which is much more expensive. Does that mean that it's including the he?For people who want something really cheap and convenient, check out Madonna in Shinjuku.
It's a peep show place.
2100 Yen is the entree fee. It's about 15 min.
2000 for he.
Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around? I went to taiwan before and for me without my friends I don't think I could have survived LOL.
Last May my wife and I met with Mia through GFE-tokyo (agency and Line account no longer exist). I think maybe GFE-escorts has taken over the url. It was redirecting there until recently. In any case, we've had some average threesome outcalls with girls in Tokyo, while Mia was one of the best ever.
So my wife has me on a mission to find Mia before we book our next visit.
I've spent hours looking at Tokyo escort websites, can't find her. She was rather tall (for a Japanese girl), spoke only a little English.
So this is possibly my last hope. If this fails, we might have to try four or five escorts before she finds a new favorite; feel sorry for me.
Captain Solo
05-19-24, 12:01
I don't speak any Japanese, but I felt completely comfortable and fun in Japan in the last few visits. Japanese are very polite and civilized. Women are gentle, trusting and helpful, always smile sweetly and giggle innocently like little school girls. Looks like women are well protected and cared for in Japan. Quite a few times I fumbled with ticket machines in train stations or coffee machines in convenient stores, nice, good-looking young women noticed and just came over to help out. These women are nice, noble and caring. I wanted to hug and kiss them.
I would stay in Shinjuku near Shinjuku Tower where hundreds sex shops, restaurants and bars serve all kinds of food, funs and kinky sex. Never had problem ordering food or sex. A Yakitory near the cinema is open 24/7, popular with young crowd, with a chef grilling meat skewers in the window, a few hot young waitresses too, only $1 a stick, $2. 50 beers, very convenient, tasty, fun and cheap.
A lot of small fast food restaurants have machines by the entrance where you order your food, give tickets to the servers who bring food to your table. A duck ramen soup shop, 1 short block North of Okubo hospital and hotel Premier Cabin, is open 24/7, a big, hot bowl of delish duck ramen with chunks of duck meat and half a duck breast costed only $6. 50. I had to catch a plane early one morning, just walked to the shop with my luggage, quickly had a hot bowl of the best duck soup anywhere, hailed a cab to the train station to get out to Narita airport.
Also went to a few AYCE yakinikus, AYCE Wagyu steak and sushi houses, in Kabukicho area in Shinjuku, most have on-line reservation for 2 people min, but a few would serve single diners, AYCE delish grilled and hot pot wagyu beef $40-50.
For girls and sex, Hentai and Soapland have offices within walking distances of the Tower with English-speaking workers. You can book appointments online, or just walk into their offices and check their selections and walk to love hotels next door. Hentai also delivers girls to your hotel for $20 service charge.
I felt completely safe and comfortable in Japan, unlike places like Vietnam where I was always getting ready for fist fights hehe.
Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around? I went to taiwan before and for me without my friends I don't think I could have survived LOL.
GaijinRoamer
05-20-24, 01:11
Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around? I went to taiwan before and for me without my friends I don't think I could have survived LOL.While the Japanese media may be playing up this idea of 'overtourism', cities like Tokyo, Osaka, and Yokohama are absolutely well equipped to handle and service tourists, including those who can't speak a word of the language. The Japanese are well aware of the fact that Japanese is a difficult language to pick up. Most restaurants in popular areas have English menus, as well as menus that feature pictures of the food item along with their prices nearby. While many Japanese don't feel confident in speaking English, many of them understand it perfectly fine as long as you use basic words, speak at a reasonable pace, and don't use long run on sentences. Furthermore, the Japanese absolutely appreciate 'effort', if you simply attempt to speak a few Japanese words to get your point across, even if you stumble terribly, it will earn you a lot of goodwill and people will go out of their way to help you.
Upon entering an establish, I'd watch how people order and how they pay. Do you use a tablet? A ticket machine? Or are you waiting for a waiter or waitress to come by? When it comes time to pay, are people paying ahead of time? Waiting to ask for their check? Or are you given a slip that you take up front to pay once you're finished? Just knowing those basic details can help with avoiding awkward interactions if you don't speak Japanese. And remember, if you mess up, they won't be mad at you.
Be respectful, soft spoken, use an appropriate volume / tone of voice and you'll be perfectly fine. The Japanese LOVE showcasing their country to visitors and that absolutely includes food. They WANT you to enjoy it. Have a great time!
Will be next 2 weeks in JP for the first time, after long waiting to play with real JP ladies. Staying in an APA hotel in Shinjuku.
1) Will certainly try ROBODELI but I am a bit confused if (not knowing japanese) it will be better to book directly on their Line address or through Cityheaven.
I fully fancy the girl named Lime that is certainly the smallest one (148 cm) but she seems open to very raunchy playing + accepts foreigners.
The system of this Shop seems Unique, with their options 1-3 Robot style + 1-3 Action plan! .
2) Would like very much also to try a Pinsaro. This seems to be a major quest for foreigners, and more even in Kabukicho?! However, I found 2 that seem to operate still? (will try to post a map).
If no luck; I plan to go and ask in the INFO Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13 as last hope.
3) Another Deli that called my attention is the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop.
4) Last will be the incall shop Sinkaigyo on 1-15-10 Kabukicho, but I am not sure really if this is a Soap or something else?
Anyone with experiences with this to help me further?
I will, of course, give Report of my results back to the forum.
Thanks!!Well, let me update on my quest, even if I did not get much help.
1) Pink salons in Kabukitcho: Found and tried de 2 I mentioned, but was rejected (politely) with "Only Japanese". So I had no other choice to take the train to Sugamo.
2) Next to Sugamos station, found the BJ street without problems and entered JanJan. Welcome but needed to pay 4 k in small notes. I seem to have been the first visitor that day and the (grumpy) recptionist could not handle 10 k bill. Then escorted to a seat and seconds later a girl was named on the PA system to join me.
Karin it was. She is a young lady, slim and very friendly. Small boobs hanging from baby feeding suppose but then we don't come for a beauty contest, nor can I participate in one.
She did a very good job and guided me friendly to all the thing I could do to participate. She was very willing to have me giving her a finger work and bumped up and down eagerly on my hand herselff. Also deep kissing she liked. Of course, one should not think to much on what her mouth could have done before, but then I was the first that day, at least.
I should have tried a next round but she really finished me so I left that day very happy.
2 days later; I went back. Karin was not present, or the receiving lady did no understand me, so I was attributed a very mature lady that was in no way similar to Karin and the service could not really get me very interested. I changed for another lady +4 k but recieved a similar mature uninterested lady.
So; I was very lucky the 1st day.
3) Massage in Kabukitcho. Tried Asian Feeling on the main street facing Godzilla. Once upstairs it seemed a really big business as shown by al the shoes at the entrance and the running of people around. A (not very interested) receptionist just showed me the menu, but after having asked me something like "live in Tokyo?" and I made the mistake to say no. Result was that I was given a different menu with higher prices as shown at the entrance. 11 k Oil massage. Did not want to argue so ok.
I was given a Lady that later gave me a note with her name Mimy, so I would remember The massage was ok for what could be expected but nothing more. She was friendly thow, and laid next to me for the second part with a smiling HJ.
Second massage parlour I tried was next to the road along the Shin Okubu station Name Spicey something 4 F.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/tFCcrJQCbRQquYHc7
I have to say that this is a real massage parlour with no shorts away moment, but I really want to mention it because after walking +25 k steps a day I really needed it!
Tha lady named Wu was really the best massage! I went 3 times. All ladies are Chinese, so the price was only 5,5 k for full hour oil massage.
3) Several times, I tried to go to the Info Shop "Yorunandesu" on 1-11-13, but always found it closed. I can be that they only open on later hours then my visits, but I was sorry not to be able to test them for more foreign friendly services.
4) Tried ROBO DELI but as my hotel seemed not to be very friendly to external services with permanent guards in the lobby + key entrance to the elevators, I went to include one of the countless love hotels of the place into my experience. Chosen Listo Hotel as one of the nearest.
First made reservation by Line app without any problem. They sent you a question list in English and you fill it out with your options. So I did ask for the lady I liked of the day schedule and ok for 1 HR later in the Listo Hotel.
Off I went and the hotel was ok. Choose rooms on tactile screens at the lobby and was helped very friendly to get to the rooms and pay in a machine inside the room. Funny: I was then "locked" inside my room but recalled that is the system in these places where they don't' want customers bumping to each other in the elevators.
20 m later a tiny lady called at the door.
The service, unfortunately, was very very standard. Yes, she did the service and was kind but it had nothimg of what this place announces as Unique and Different to all in the world!
I asked for the Robot 2 style + Ero 3, option Immediate raw + DeepTh; which more or less would get me "violated" as soon as I opened the door and what I got was a very shy lady that was like a first timer approach.
5) Tried to contact the "kiwami-dendoushi" shop, but they didn't reply to my Line until next day with some lame excuse that Line was slow, even if other shops answered in 1 min. So they lost me.
Conclusion: Very happy to have visited Japan and will come back even with the 19 h flight, but for sex I am far better off in Spain!
Banana Boi
05-20-24, 10:44
Hey all, I'm going to tokyo in a week or so and I am kinda nervous since I don't know any japanese. Is it easy to order food and do you have trouble getting around?You don't need to know Japanese to visit Tokyo. 1000's of restaurants have English menus or photos that clearly depict what you are ordering. Some of the small izakayas will have Japanese only but you can use Google Translate camera to translate Japanese to English. If you still find things difficult, there's always McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Denny's, etc.
Yamanote Line that's all you need to know. It circles Tokyo. You can't get lost. The massive train stations like Tokyo, Shinjuku, etc now that's another story altogether. Google maps is your best friend there. Even Japanese use it to find stuff.
Thanks for your reviews, Robser.
I had a great 2 hour session with Kaoru from Tokyo Style. No hassle easy booking in English. Kaoru showed up looking like her pictures. She's got a nice tight small body that matches her Ginza model style fashion perfectly. Charming with a cute laugh too. Not much English but we both kept our mouths busy. She's responsive with a dripping wet slit. Top level massage skills and good BBBJCIM. I will repeat.
Going to Japan with my girlfriend (she's Japanese so can speak but can't read / write) and she's open to me finding a girl for us both to have fun with. Any advice on what places might be open to us?How was your trip? Report back!
I'm visiting Tokyo and looking for excellent massage and BJ. I want to experience both nuru and other types of massage with a CBJ or BBBJ ending. Bonus points for deep throat. OK with incall or my hotel or love hotel. What places should I go to or what types of place or search keywords I should use? Thanks experts.
MassageLover81
05-22-24, 18:35
Well, let me update on my quest, even if I did not get much help.
1) Pink salons in Kabukitcho: Found and tried de 2 I mentioned, but was rejected (politely) with "Only Japanese". So I had no other choice to take the train to Sugamo.
2) Next to Sugamos station, found the BJ street without problems and entered JanJan. Welcome but needed to pay 4 k in small notes. I seem to have been the first visitor that day and the (grumpy) recptionist could not handle 10 k bill. Then escorted to a seat and seconds later a girl was named on the PA system to join me.
Karin it was. She is a young lady, slim and very friendly. Small boobs hanging from baby feeding suppose but then we don't come for a beauty contest, nor can I participate in one.
She did a very good job and guided me friendly to all the thing I could do to participate. She was very willing to have me giving her a finger work and bumped up and down eagerly on my hand herselff. Also deep kissing she liked. Of course, one should not think to much on what her mouth could have done before, but then I was the first that day, at least..Wow this is a great informative report!
What did you mean by "which more or less would get me violated"?
Wow this is a great informative report!
What did you mean by "which more or less would get me violated"?Hi; well I might have made a bad translation. "raped" could have been more accurate.
But; have a look for yourself on their website robodeli point net about de MODE ROBOT + MODE ERO.
MassageLover81
05-25-24, 15:15
Hi; well I might have made a bad translation. "raped" could have been more accurate.
But; have a look for yourself on their website robodeli point net about de MODE ROBOT + MODE ERO.Oh I see.
I checked out the website. It's such an interesting concept!
Maybe it's hard to find aggressive Japanese women due to their culture.
Thanks for the tips!
For people who want something really cheap and convenient, check out Madonna in Shinjuku.
It's a peep show place.
2100 Yen is the entree fee. It's about 15 min. 2000 for he.What is this 1500 yen price?
Last May my wife and I met with Mia through GFE-tokyo (agency and Line account no longer exist). I think maybe GFE-escorts has taken over the url. It was redirecting there until recently. In any case, we've had some average threesome outcalls with girls in Tokyo, while Mia was one of the best ever.
So my wife has me on a mission to find Mia before we book our next visit.
I've spent hours looking at Tokyo escort websites, can't find her. She was rather tall (for a Japanese girl), spoke only a little English.
So this is possibly my last hope. If this fails, we might have to try four or five escorts before she finds a new favorite; feel sorry for me.I saw Mia like twice she was supposed to give me her line the third time but unfortunately that service sucked for making arrangements and never got to see her before they shut down. I agree one of the best I have had no idea if she just stopped working or if she moved on. The GFE club also won't answer any questions unfortunately.
NRandom940
06-04-24, 13:14
Just face the fact it's expensive. It's Tokyo. Then go to hentaitokyo.com and pick a well reviewed girl who is working. Meetup walk to love hotel. Easy. Couldn't be easier. And great girls if you pick a well reviewed one.That would be great if they offered FS. But expensive and no sex? That's hard to justify.
Are there any options for foreigners where you can get attractive girl, FS, see the girl (or at least an accurate picture) beforehand?
AussieGaigin
06-05-24, 00:44
That would be great if they offered FS. But expensive and no sex? That's hard to justify.
Are there any options for foreigners where you can get attractive girl, FS, see the girl (or at least an accurate picture) beforehand?"Arranging a meeting between two parties for the purpose of vaginal intercourse in exchange for financial compensation is illegal in Japan.
Tokyo Hentai Club is a licensed and legally complying escort provider that operates under Japanese law thus we would appreciate your co-operation in not requesting this service when making a booking with our staff member. ".
If you read between the lines, there is nothing preventing you from making a personal arrangement with the girl during the booking?
NRandom940
06-05-24, 02:00
"Arranging a meeting between two parties for the purpose of vaginal intercourse in exchange for financial compensation is illegal in Japan.
Tokyo Hentai Club is a licensed and legally complying escort provider that operates under Japanese law thus we would appreciate your co-operation in not requesting this service when making a booking with our staff member. ".
If you read between the lines, there is nothing preventing you from making a personal arrangement with the girl during the booking?Have you done this personally?
Have you done this personally?I have had an arrangement with a girl from henti, unfortunately to be completely honest it's not guaranteed. I will say this the better looking the girl the lower chance it's on offer with just one meeting. Usually cause she's booked solid so she doesn't need extra money as much. Some of the less attractive girls offer it right away cause they aren't booked a lot so any extra money is welcomed by them. Also any girl offering anal fuck is a pretty sure thing of you either get an actual anal fuck which is legal or she will say switchy during the date and just do normal sex. The down side is if you ask the wrong girl, she can report you to management and all access to the henti is revoked. Cause as someone has mentioned it's illegal. I have found on a second or third date most girls will offer it or have no problem if you ask once they think your going to be a regular.
My best advice is to assume your only going to get at least two bjs when you go on a date. Unless she offers it first willing don't ask till she has started sucking your or at least sucked you off once. The girls are a little more relaxed once they have gotten you off. You'll notice most of us won't post about specific girls at the locations because the shops do monitor these forms and have been known to ban girls if they break the rules. Because it's legality issue and they could lose there business licence.
NRandom940
06-05-24, 15:45
I have had an arrangement with a girl from henti, unfortunately to be completely honest it's not guaranteed. I will say this the better looking the girl the lower chance it's on offer with just one meeting. Usually cause she's booked solid so she doesn't need extra money as much. Some of the less attractive girls offer it right away cause they aren't booked a lot so any extra money is welcomed by them. Also any girl offering anal fuck is a pretty sure thing of you either get an actual anal fuck which is legal or she will say switchy during the date and just do normal sex. The down side is if you ask the wrong girl, she can report you to management and all access to the henti is revoked. Cause as someone has mentioned it's illegal. I have found on a second or third date most girls will offer it or have no problem if you ask once they think your going to be a regular.
My best advice is to assume your only going to get at least two bjs when you go on a date. Unless she offers it first willing don't ask till she has started sucking your or at least sucked you off once. The girls are a little more relaxed once they have gotten you off. You'll notice most of us won't post about specific girls at the locations because the shops do monitor these forms and have been known to ban girls if they break the rules. Because it's legality issue and they could lose there business licence.OK thanks, good to know.
I've also found some suggestions on other websites of foreigner friendly soaplands that offer FS at a much more affordable rate, so I will try those too.
I have had an arrangement with a girl from henti, unfortunately to be completely honest it's not guaranteed. I will say this the better looking the girl the lower chance it's on offer with just one meeting. Usually cause she's booked solid so she doesn't need extra money as much. Some of the less attractive girls offer it right away cause they aren't booked a lot so any extra money is welcomed by them. Also any girl offering anal fuck is a pretty sure thing of you either get an actual anal fuck which is legal or she will say switchy during the date and just do normal sex. The down side is if you ask the wrong girl, she can report you to management and all access to the henti is revoked. Cause as someone has mentioned it's illegal. I have found on a second or third date most girls will offer it or have no problem if you ask once they think your going to be a regular.
My best advice is to assume your only going to get at least two bjs when you go on a date. Unless she offers it first willing don't ask till she has started sucking your or at least sucked you off once. The girls are a little more relaxed once they have gotten you off. You'll notice most of us won't post about specific girls at the locations because the shops do monitor these forms and have been known to ban girls if they break the rules. Because it's legality issue and they could lose there business licence.Best way to get offered FS is to book a session with no upgrades. Providers make a lot of their income from the upgrade menu. If you purchase a bunch of options, it might be enough for the provider to just give you a BBBJ. I always let the provider ask me if I want something more. If you ask the wrong provider for more, she might just end the session on the spot.
Those Chinese women around "the" train station (there are many in Tokyo) usually are no streetwalkers. They usually are touts. Also usually, you should not go with touts in Tokyo, except in the small red light district of Gotanda. The Chinese touts of Gotanda, prowling the streets after nightfall, will take you reliably to underground bordellos, where you can get FS for 10,000 yen, probably the lowest rate in all of Tokyo.Where is the red light district in Gotanda?
Well, let me update on my quest, even if I did not get much help.
1) Pink salons in Kabukitcho: Found and tried de 2 I mentioned, but was rejected (politely) with "Only Japanese". So I had no other choice to take the train to Sugamo.
Conclusion: Very happy to have visited Japan and will come back even with the 19 h flight, but for sex I am far better off in Spain!Very insightful report, thank you sir! Incidentally I will soon test both Tokyo and Barcelona back to back for the first time.
Jonathan2832
06-09-24, 06:48
I've been checking this forum for long time, but this is my first post.
Last month, I was in Japan for two weeks as a business traveler, and I tried a session with a girl from Ultra Omotenashi. My friend introduced this agency. I was told they are foreigner-friendly escort agency.
First of all, I connected with them via their LINE account, which I found on their website. Once connected, there was no problem having several long chats with them. They were very helpful and patient with all my questions. The provider's pictures on their website seemed edited to me, so I told them what I liked and asked for their recommendation. My friend advised me to do so. I mentioned I preferred someone tall, slender, with a tight figure and a great smile. They then provided some pictures for me, and I chose Appleberry.
Summary:
Name: AppleBerry (23 yo on the website, but a bit older than that, still very young).
English: No (She has a small translation device with her).
Face: 4/5 Definitely her picture on website was edited, but she was better in person.
Body: 4/5 As I've requested, she was tall, slender, with tight figure.
Skill: 4/5 good, good BBBJ, DFK, Sixty nine with two pops.
Attitude: 5/5, great smile with great hospitality.
Total Damage: JPY 93300 (JPY 90000 and JPY 3300 for premium surcharge).JPY 93300 for 120 minutes?
Is it avarage price in Tokyo?
I will be in Tokyo next month.
JPY 93300 for 120 minutes?
Is it avarage price in Tokyo?
I will be in Tokyo next month.No this isn't the norm it's actually super expensive. This one of the known agency's that targets foreigners at a ridiculous charge. If you look at a few of my older post I have listed quite a few places to find DH girls. You shouldn't be paying more than 60 k for 90 mins. Unless your utilizing one of the higher end places. And the above mention place just claims to be higher end.
No this isn't the norm it's actually super expensive. This one of the known agency's that targets foreigners at a ridiculous charge. If you look at a few of my older post I have listed quite a few places to find DH girls. You shouldn't be paying more than 60 k for 90 mins. Unless your utilizing one of the higher end places. And the above mention place just claims to be higher end.I was in Tokyo last Nov. I used an agency. Saw three girls. I recall it was US $400 for 2 hours.
No this isn't the norm it's actually super expensive. This one of the known agency's that targets foreigners at a ridiculous charge. If you look at a few of my older post I have listed quite a few places to find DH girls. You shouldn't be paying more than 60 k for 90 mins. Unless your utilizing one of the higher end places. And the above mention place just claims to be higher end.I was in Tokyo last Nov. I used an agency. Saw three girls. I recall it was US $400 for 2 hours.
I tried an independent for the first time in Tokyo. Her name was Manami. Has a website and is advertised in a few places. Her pictures are edited but relatively accurate. She's an above average looking MILF. Speaks English. Arguably easier to book than an agency too. But there is a premium price and I have to be honest and say I didn't see how it was worth it. Nice enough woman, had a good time, did everything she was supposed to. But still it's hard to justify 45,000 Yen for an hour. I wouldn't repeat but she seems to be pretty popular, so I may be in the minority on this.
I always have better luck with agencies and professional establishments. That is now true of Tokyo too.
AussieGaigin
06-18-24, 00:48
Manami, aka Tokyo Melty Kiss, is something of a legend here, with a history going back 10-15 years to her days with Asian Mystique agency. She was so popular, she decided to cut out the middle man.
I found this video from YouTube informative.
https://youtu.be/oyn-qEYUn68?si=nBQvQ3zcQT_GJ45I.
Manami, aka Tokyo Melty Kiss, is something of a legend here, with a history going back 10-15 years to her days with Asian Mystique agency. She was so popular, she decided to cut out the middle man.I wasn't very impressed. I will be going back to agencies in the future.
Based on the above I ventured to Jan Jan on Friday at noon (Japan's Friday since it's Friday now in the States).I have like a 6 HR layover at hanada airport. 9 am-3 pm. So have to leave at noon to get there by 1 p.
What time do they open?
Google translate said it was Jan Jan. (See pic).
I don't speak Japanese. The old guy at the door asked me a question. No clue.
I showed him 4 k yen. He kept repeating the same question Then said no. I left. This was at 12:30 pm weekday.
So what did I do wrong?
Does anyone know until what time is JanJan open?
I will arrive to Haneda at 9:30 pm. Can I make it on time? Or does anyone have any better suggestions?
Google translate said it was Jan Jan. (See pic).
I don't speak Japanese. The old guy at the door asked me a question. No clue.
I showed him 4 k yen. He kept repeating the same question Then said no. I left. This was at 12:30 pm weekday.
So what did I do wrong?Site is.
http://jan2-sugamo.com
That looks the same as your picture.
As to what you did wrong. I cannot answer that, if you have a few Japanese words then no problem as far as I know.
Teltel.
This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts (https://amateurtokyo.com/), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends!
This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts (https://amateurtokyo.com/), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends!So I am curious what annoying upsell hentai offers. Litterly the same list of allowed play is exactly the same for both hentai and amateur. I use hentai all the time. They have options but most Japanese places have them. Hell even amauter has options Also the options aren't upsell by henti all the options go directly to the girl. So that's truthfully why girls have more options than others to make more money Second of all you paid extras on top anyway with an admission fee and selection fee. I have never been charged this at hentai or gfesoapland. Plus add in the fact you have a whole host of other places mentioned on this forum. Sometimes I wonder if you guys get paid to do reviews on garbage places. If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale. Cause the only thing they have ever asked me for was options, LOL and none of these girls will give you an option for free. I mean maybe but that would take a whole lot of game and you would have to good looking as hell.
As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. You can load a Suica card with money once and use it for public transport, taxis, vending machines, in convenience stores, etc.
Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).Not my experience at all. I use a Charles Schwab Visa bank card issued in USA. Have been withdrawing money all over Japan for 20 years.
I tried Gal Deli in Ikebukuro.
https://galdeli-ikb.com/lang/en.php
They are gaijin friendly, but you might have to jump through some hoops.
Certain women are gaijin friendly. They're marked "foreigner ok" on their profiles.
There's also a gaijin tax.
You have two choices: pay the gaijin fee, or keep your dick in your pants.
I decided to pay the fee.
I dropped 45000 Yen for 2 hours with Dominika.
This is her: https://galdeli-ikb.com/sys/girl.php?id=dominika&tpl=10.
Pictures use crazy filters but one at the end with her face over her mouth is basically what she looks like.
Super tan, outrageous "gal". She really plays the role too!
I checked into a love hotel. She showed up on time. I paid when she walked in. All the money together and in a white envelope just like the good old days.
Skinny, small tits, lotioned up, smelling like perfume and cigarettes. Basically speaks no English but acts like a total bimbo ****.
I touched and licked all over her body. Even put her toes in my mouth at one point.
After I tongued her bung hole for a while she pulled my pants down and face fucked herself with my cock.
She was very enthusiastic but not that great. Felt a lot of teeth on my shaft.
Grabbing her skinny ass cheeks with both hands and and spreading her butt hole open got me to cum.
We had more time. She played the dummy bimbo role more. I touched her body until I get recharged.
Next round we did 69. I managed to blow one more load right at the buzzer when I was slipped my tongue up to her anus.
Not my proudest moment.
I was almost regretting the whole thing on the walk back to the train, with my upper lip tasting like some kind of musty fermented food.
Glad I tried it though. Scratched an itch.
After mid-range lukewarm experiences with Melty Kiss and Gal Deli I decided to go back to Tokyo Style. It is expensive but the quality is guaranteed.
The older I get the more I value time over money.
I contacted Tokyo Style by Telegram app.
This time I went with Milla on recommendation of the booking agent.
https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Milla
Her pictures show a nice body and everything checked out.
Had her come out to my hotel. I met her in the lobby and brought her up to the room. Introductions and paid.
We is surprisingly beautiful in person. Mature, but almost like a model. She's really gorgeous. Pretty face and a amazing body. Classy too. She doesn't look like a money girl at all.
Very good English. A little tanned. She has a few wrinkles around her eyes. But her body is smooth as silk.
MILF age range but more like a fashion model than a mom. I was charmed.
She started off washing me good in the shower. The massage was great. We talked a lot. On the flip she gave me head in different positions. Then she sat on my chest and jacked me off while I stared at her starfish. She has a great ass.
40000 Yen well spent. No upsale or begging for "options" is one reason I love Tokyo Style. You pay the set price and you get the service. No need to worry about anything else.
The ninety minutes went way too fast. I not only would repeat; I plan to as soon as possible.
Hi,
Thank you for the reviews and reports.
But being a foreigner, Japan can be very confusing.
I have tried my best to understand how the systems work through this forum. But finally request you to advice, which would be the best area in Tokyo to stay with family but with close proximity to incall services like (tokyo amateur escort or hentai tokyo) OR Pink saloons.
I am there for just 2 nights.
Had thought of booking a hotel at Ginza or a be&be at Shinjuku.
Please advice.
Thanks.
Does anyone have a hotel recommendation (non love hotel) close to the Tokyo Hentai Club?
Thank you.
Captain Solo
06-26-24, 19:27
That area has lots of food and entertainment for all ages and tastes.
Hotel A25 is in the middle, convenient to all things.
Hentai and Soapland are within quarter mile.
Pegasus887
06-27-24, 01:19
So I am curious what annoying upsell hentai offers. Litterly the same list of allowed play is exactly the same for both hentai and amateur. I use hentai all the time. They have options but most Japanese places have them. Hell even amauter has options Also the options aren't upsell by henti all the options go directly to the girl. So that's truthfully why girls have more options than others to make more money Second of all you paid extras on top anyway with an admission fee and selection fee. I have never been charged this at hentai or gfesoapland. Plus add in the fact you have a whole host of other places mentioned on this forum. Sometimes I wonder if you guys get paid to do reviews on garbage places. If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale. Cause the only thing they have ever asked me for was options, LOL and none of these girls will give you an option for free. I mean maybe but that would take a whole lot of game and you would have to good looking as hell.No doubt, any experienced users can tell a shill review over a real one. No one would write a 1-page essay on a shop like "Tokyo Amateur Escort". Place is like the dollar store version of THC with similar prices.
I've used the service twice in the past and both times finding the girls photos to be heavily photoshopped. They go by Garden Gal for the Japanese https://www.garden-gal.com/ and upsell to foreigners as Tokyo Amateur Escort.
Pegasus887
06-27-24, 04:00
Does anyone have a hotel recommendation (non love hotel) close to the Tokyo Hentai Club?
Thank you.Try apa hotel, there are a few around the area but the best ones location wise are kabukicho tower (godzilla) and kabukicho chuo (on a side street corner).
Key card needed for access so if you are looking for privacy don't use.
Captain Solo
06-27-24, 04:13
Hotel Apa Shinjuku is a few hundred yards from Hentai Shinjuku.
Hotel Premier Cabin is also within walking distance.
Both Hentai and Soapland Shinjuku are within walking distance from Kabukicho Tower.
Does anyone have a hotel recommendation (non love hotel) close to the Tokyo Hentai Club?
Thank you.
Captain Solo
06-27-24, 13:51
Apa hotel Shinjuku, not A25.
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Hotel Apa Shinjuku is a few hundred yards from Hentai Shinjuku.
hi
Hotel Premier Cabin is also within walking distance.
Both Hentai and Soapland Shinjuku are within walking distance from Kabukicho Tower.Thanks. Is Hotel Apa Shibuya Dogenzakaue also close to Hentai?
Apa hotel Shinjuku, not A25.
]Thanks again. Which exact one is closest to Hentai? It appears Dogenzakaue is the nearest Apa Hotel to Hentai.
Pegasus887
06-28-24, 04:38
Most APA hotels in the Shibuya / Shinjuku are within the sex shops at walking distance. I don't know what the shop policy is in regarding doing incall / outcall to your hotel when booking the service at the shop directly? Either way you can visit the office and check the photos without blurring, handy if you are picky hobbyist.
If anyone has any good recommendations please post them up, did my rounds a few months ago at GFE soapland, thc and Jan Jan.
Will be trying out Milky Baby in Ikebukuro for some lactating working girl action.
So I am curious what annoying upsell hentai offers. Litterly the same list of allowed play is exactly the same for both hentai and amateur. I use hentai all the time. They have options but most Japanese places have them. Hell even amauter has options Also the options aren't upsell by henti all the options go directly to the girl. So that's truthfully why girls have more options than others to make more money Second of all you paid extras on top anyway with an admission fee and selection fee. I have never been charged this at hentai or gfesoapland. Plus add in the fact you have a whole host of other places mentioned on this forum. Sometimes I wonder if you guys get paid to do reviews on garbage places. If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale. Cause the only thing they have ever asked me for was options, LOL and none of these girls will give you an option for free. I mean maybe but that would take a whole lot of game and you would have to good looking as hell.My friends, written upgrade option charges by agencies is not unique to Japan. I can't think of any country where agencies don't list such extras. My experience is that many (perhaps most) providers themselves are not fully aware or don't remember what options are listed for them and what counts as 'extra' and for how much. With above in mind, your mongering experience anywhere will be far superior. If a provider wants extra for something, they will let you know, they are in the business of making money from you and are never shy about it.
I specified Hentai because the agency is the one that was almost always active with the upsell during booking, not the ladies once in the room. Their ladies though perform well, but I found them more valuable in Osaka, because in Tokyo I got better value from Amateur. I sessioned with 12 ladies, which I believe is a good enough sample size to make my observations.
Also, no need to discount other mongers' experiences based on your less than stellar ones.
No doubt, any experienced users can tell a shill review over a real one. No one would write a 1-page essay on a shop like "Tokyo Amateur Escort". Place is like the dollar store version of THC with similar prices.
I've used the service twice in the past and both times finding the girls photos to be heavily photoshopped. They go by Garden Gal for the Japanese https://www.garden-gal.com/ and upsell to foreigners as Tokyo Amateur Escort.The kind of nonsense that discourages people from posting honest reviews. Your bad experiences don't exclude others from good experiences. Post your actual experience in a productive way instead of lame attempt to water down someone else's observations.
Granted you are still green here, but that is no excuse for such a post.
SlickLicker
06-30-24, 12:20
If you claim hentai does do upsell please explain how they try to do upscale.I haven't been there due to my first trip soon. But from my research so far, I'm guessing with upsell he means that Hentai (and some other places) have all those 'options' and in order to get the service you want you need to take these options. Call it options, call it upsell. Same same but diffrent?
But on that point of upsell. Since I'm a newbie for Japan!. On the subject of FS. Is this always an upsell / option, or is that depending the place. Let's put it this way, I've read somewhere that at THC for example, this is considered an option and its not always an option even. I get that they can't promote it, but so far I thought certain service are simply not promoted but are included.
I read one specific example where a similar place charged 35 k for 90 m session and then 30 k for that option. If you then add some other options, you quickly reach 70-75 k total for a session. Was just curious if that's how it works everywhere or if that's how it work at the places who do the option method. Or maybe this story I read was just someone who overpaid a lot LOL.
Side question. Street walking? Stay away? Or if they get your attention and have a nice chat see what they have to say and go from there? I realize most won't attract a farang.
I haven't been there due to my first trip soon. But from my research so far, I'm guessing with upsell he means that Hentai (and some other places) have all those 'options' and in order to get the service you want you need to take these options. Call it options, call it upsell. Same same but diffrent?
But on that point of upsell. Since I'm a newbie for Japan!. On the subject of FS. Is this always an upsell / option, or is that depending the place. Let's put it this way, I've read somewhere that at THC for example, this is considered an option and its not always an option even. I get that they can't promote it, but so far I thought certain service are simply not promoted but are included.
I read one specific example where a similar place charged 35 k for 90 m session and then 30 k for that option. If you then add some other options, you quickly reach 70-75 k total for a session. Was just curious if that's how it works everywhere or if that's how it work at the places who do the option method. Or maybe this story I read was just someone who overpaid a lot LOL.
Side question. Street walking? Stay away? Or if they get your attention and have a nice chat see what they have to say and go from there? I realize most won't attract a farang.So since you haven't been I'll explain and it should make more sense. First to start off with full service is illegal in Japan. Blowjobs, anal sex and naked massages are not. That's why most of us warn any place that outright advertises full service is not to be trusted. There are few that hint at it but don't outright say it. It's also why we say to look for girls who offer. Anal fuck because most will just switch to normal sex. Most girls will offer FS as a secret option in the room. But you can actually get in trouble for asking for it. That's why some shady places offer it knowing they will get the guys who want it.
That being said there is a FS option there called soaplands. Your almost guaranteed to get full service there. I say almost because truthfully if the girls decides not give you FS you can't really complain cause FS is illegal anyway. Somehow soaplands get around that not sure how but they do.
That being said in Japan the basic service for escorts, is shower, kissing, massage, blowjob or hand job. All of those are part of the service. From there all shops offer options they are not upsell they are in a sense enchantments. Swallowing, cum in mouth, deep throating cosplay, video session,. The reason I called his review into question is because the shop he reviewed litterly has the same options available. Also having used hentai the closes thing they do to upscale is the time. They will be quick to point out that 90 minutes and above is unlimited shots. Which they prefer to do that before hand than trying to negotiate extensions in the room.
Street walkers in Japan this has been talked about multiple times. Besides the thrill. Honestly why take the chance street walkers are usually girls who couldn't make it in the official sex clubs. That or they are underage they aren't that significant cheaper. The average cost about 10000 to ,20000 yen most soaplands / delivery health are in a similar range anyway. In the Us some of them have some super head game. Over here they are are horrible they will do the bare minimum to get it done. Remember I said they rejects from official sex work.
Coming to Tokyo for first time mid August for 5 days on my way to Thailand. Been reading the reports for the better part of 6 weeks. Experienced hobbyist. Thanks to everyone for a very constructive non argumentative thread.
Is the Shinjuku neighborhood a good area to choose a hotel that is girl friendly? Near all that one can see from a mongering sightseeing standpoint? Any recommendations on a good 4 or 5 star hotel that allows guests. Maybe with a good breakfast?
Thanks in advance. Looking forward to Tokyo!!
This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts (https://amateurtokyo.com/), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends!Kib123.
Where did you sessioned in Osaka?
Thanks.
Traveler X
07-04-24, 12:21
Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.
Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).
You can always get the promo rate by going to a "free information booth" in Shinjuku, most info booths are Japanese but these days at least one is English for foreigners. Some girls will give you a 3000 yen discount card for next time, use it if you like them. That discounts off the "regular rate" which varies by when you go. Usually cheaper than promo rate without discount, but then you get that girl on the card if she's working that day.
After 40 minutes you can extend, but the rates vary after that since 6000/8000 are sometimes promo rates to get you in. They have things like vip (pronounced veep) and other options that are much more expensive, for simps. Don't simp for a girl no matter how much you like her. Just see her again instead.
Since it is just breast play and kissing, the girls are generally young and attractive. Plenty of 20-23 year olds. 24 is considered old, I had a girl apologize for being 24. All are conventionally attractive, a few are very beautiful. It is not something you think about much, but girls in their 20's have much nicer skin and much better feeling natural breasts. No contest.
While it is always possible to get a young attractive girl at soapland, more often you are expecting a decent looking girl in her 30's if not MILF. Soapland to me is a novelty but not the main attraction of Japan. I had fun but simply not interested. But I can still answer any questions about them for those interested.
A new club called Leicester (pronounced as-if Lester in Japanese) gives you an idea of the girls working. The photos are real. The girls in-person have much less make up on than the ad, since it is not fun to kiss girls with make up. For example in the banner of girls, the 5th girl from the left with big smile is Uta. She is nice and friendly and quite forward:
https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/
I liked Hazuki the most, but girls come and go in this business and I could not get her on my second visit:
https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/girl/93065/
Don't go Leicester unless you can speak some Japanese. Foreigners are allowed if they can speak some Japanese and follow common sense rules. To give you an idea of how new this club is, they just opened two weeks ago. As I said it is a revolving door and it is not uncommon to meet a girl on her first or second day on the job, though most girls are regulars. Be respectful with your words and read her body language, every girl is different.
The most foreigner friendly one I know is Luxe:
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp
At Luxe, most of the staff speak perfect English. Some obviously lived in the US and it is explicitly a foreigner-friendly club. I saw more foreigners than Japanese on a weekday but I'm sure it varies. As such, like all "tourist spots", it does mean it "isn't as good" as the Japanese-only clubs for reasons too long to get into. But I had lots of fun still, and I would recommend it if you have not done oppai pubs before. The girls are cool, every girl is very different, and it's like meeting Asian strippers but you get to kiss and suck on them freely with other people around doing the same to their girl. The girls are obviously used to foreigners here. As with any shop in the world, some girls are high service other girls are low service. Just how it is.
My favorite club is Hosekibako, but like Leicester you should speak enough Japanese to go:
https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com
Unfortunately, Hosekibako's site won't let you explore the site and see the girls unless your internet is in Japan. The moment you land in Japan and use hotel or free wifi you can browse freely and see their girls. International roaming does NOT ping you as in Japan for these purposes. You'll know your internet is "in Japan" when you see Japanese ads on your youtube, reddit, etc. It's hilarious.
In my experience, it is more important that you are able to understand Japanese and follow common sense rules, than your own speaking ability. You cannot touch a girl's privates below the waist is the most important rule. Don't be rough with the girls obviously.
I have to keep things brief so some Japanese words. "Free" aka furee is the normal course when you see 3 random girls for 40 minutes, as opposed to "shimei" where you nominate/extend a specific girl you like by name. Before you go in, you gargle your mouth with mouthwash and spit it back into the cup and pour it down the drain. If it's your first time they explain the rules and upcharge options, which is what already I said plus the bare minimum of common sense like don't hurt girls. When you walk in they might ask about otearai which means if you need to use the bathroom. Daijoubu desu means you're good. When you sit they give you a towel and ask about "nomimono" which is what you want to drink. Beer is beeru. VIP is veep, don't pay for that. Most girls will ask if you'll buy them a drink, some guys do some guys don't - if I like a girl I do it's complicated to explain the pros and cons. Know how to ask or signal a girl to hop on you and show you her tits, I managed to ask that with 3 months of Japanese 20 years ago. Make an effort yourself.
If a girl is shy, I ask for permission even though the answer is always yes. If she is forward, just go at it.
I will write more if there is interest, or I can write guides on other shops or cities instead.
Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start..Hi,
Coming to Tokyo on 16th with family and would like to experience the Oppai Pub. Will be staying in Ikebukuro and would appreciate if any pointers can be provided.
I would prefer the pubs in Ikebukuro if there are any. The Luxe is pretty far and will raise eyebrows.
Thanks.
Traveler X
07-04-24, 20:09
Coming to Tokyo on 16th with family and would like to experience the Oppai Pub. Will be staying in Ikebukuro and would appreciate if any pointers can be provided.
I would prefer the pubs in Ikebukuro if there are any. The Luxe is pretty far and will raise eyebrows.There is a RLD in Ikebukuro but don't know much about it. However a sure tell is if you see a shop information center like Manzoku. It will say "18 years and up" on curtains so kids can't see inside, and have lots of posters of clubs. Any person in there would know exactly where you could go based on your interest and speaking ability. That's all they do.
The Manzoku info shops make money by introducing you to a shop. They aren't affiliated with the shop, never had a problem with them and they are upfront with accurate info. The pros outweigh the cons in my opinion. Don't talk to black or Chinese touts for sex services in my opinion. I walk past them and ignore them completely so they can focus on the next foreigner.
Anyways, if I went to Housekibako myself without any coupons, I would pay between 6000 to 10000 yen. Manzoku's promo rate is always either as good or better than that, whether 6000 or 8000, and either they walk you to the shop or the shop sends their own guy to pick you up on foot. You might be able to find a slightly better deal online through Housekibako's own website by an online coupon, but there are many hurdles to that so I don't even bother. It turns out that no matter how expensive a club is, every shop honors the Manzoku rate. Once you go to a shop, most girls give you their card which is then going to be slightly cheaper for your 2nd visit. However, for your 3rd visit or if you don't want to use that girls card, you can go through Manzoku again. I was upfront that it's my 2nd time and so was Manzoku when calling the shop and there was no problem (clubs compete against each other so they'd rather have you than not unless they're packed). But I try not to overdo that and go direct to the club if I know their formula rate is just the same as Manzoku.
To your last comment, you probably shouldn't go to the RLD after all. You are only allowed to have 1 problem at a time like "I don't have enough time", "I can't get caught", etc. But not 2 at the same time. You may think you have just enough time but then realize that one girl wore a strong smell that is now all over you and your shirt. 10 out of 12 girls I saw had no smell, 2 did! God damn what do I do now, it's the weirdest thing to think after you just had an amazing time with women. You get the idea.
Wipes from a combini might help with your skin and the smell off your shirt might be gone in 12 to 48 hours if you hide it that long. But as you can see the "I don't have enough time" clashes with "I can't get caught" issue. If it was just one of those two I could tell you the easy solution. Not both!
Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.
Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).
You can always get the promo rate by going to a "free information booth" in Shinjuku, most info booths are Japanese but these days at least one is English for foreigners. Some girls will give you a 3000 yen discount card for next time, use it if you like them. That discounts off the "regular rate" which varies by when you go. Usually cheaper than promo rate without discount, but then you get that girl on the card if she's working that day.
After 40 minutes you can extend, but the rates vary after that since 6000/8000 are sometimes promo rates to get you in. They have things like vip (pronounced veep) and other options that are much more expensive, for simps. Don't simp for a girl no matter how much you like her. Just see her again instead.
Since it is just breast play and kissing, the girls are generally young and attractive. Plenty of 20-23 year olds. 24 is considered old, I had a girl apologize for being 24. All are conventionally attractive, a few are very beautiful. It is not something you think about much, but girls in their 20's have much nicer skin and much better feeling natural breasts. No contest.
While it is always possible to get a young attractive girl at soapland, more often you are expecting a decent looking girl in her 30's if not MILF. Soapland to me is a novelty but not the main attraction of Japan. I had fun but simply not interested. But I can still answer any questions about them for those interested.
A new club called Leicester (pronounced as-if Lester in Japanese) gives you an idea of the girls working. The photos are real. The girls in-person have much less make up on than the ad, since it is not fun to kiss girls with make up. For example in the banner of girls, the 5th girl from the left with big smile is Uta. She is nice and friendly and quite forward:
https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/
I liked Hazuki the most, but girls come and go in this business and I could not get her on my second visit:
https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/girl/93065/
Don't go Leicester unless you can speak some Japanese. Foreigners are allowed if they can speak some Japanese and follow common sense rules. To give you an idea of how new this club is, they just opened two weeks ago. As I said it is a revolving door and it is not uncommon to meet a girl on her first or second day on the job, though most girls are regulars. Be respectful with your words and read her body language, every girl is different.
The most foreigner friendly one I know is Luxe:
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp
At Luxe, most of the staff speak perfect English. Some obviously lived in the US and it is explicitly a foreigner-friendly club. I saw more foreigners than Japanese on a weekday but I'm sure it varies. As such, like all "tourist spots", it does mean it "isn't as good" as the Japanese-only clubs for reasons too long to get into. But I had lots of fun still, and I would recommend it if you have not done oppai pubs before. The girls are cool, every girl is very different, and it's like meeting Asian strippers but you get to kiss and suck on them freely with other people around doing the same to their girl. The girls are obviously used to foreigners here. As with any shop in the world, some girls are high service other girls are low service. Just how it is.
My favorite club is Hosekibako, but like Leicester you should speak enough Japanese to go:
https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com
Unfortunately, Hosekibako's site won't let you explore the site and see the girls unless your internet is in Japan. The moment you land in Japan and use hotel or free wifi you can browse freely and see their girls. International roaming does NOT ping you as in Japan for these purposes. You'll know your internet is "in Japan" when you see Japanese ads on your youtube, reddit, etc. It's hilarious.
In my experience, it is more important that you are able to understand Japanese and follow common sense rules, than your own speaking ability. You cannot touch a girl's privates below the waist is the most important rule. Don't be rough with the girls obviously.
I have to keep things brief so some Japanese words. "Free" aka furee is the normal course when you see 3 random girls for 40 minutes, as opposed to "shimei" where you nominate/extend a specific girl you like by name. Before you go in, you gargle your mouth with mouthwash and spit it back into the cup and pour it down the drain. If it's your first time they explain the rules and upcharge options, which is what already I said plus the bare minimum of common sense like don't hurt girls. When you walk in they might ask about otearai which means if you need to use the bathroom. Daijoubu desu means you're good. When you sit they give you a towel and ask about "nomimono" which is what you want to drink. Beer is beeru. VIP is veep, don't pay for that. Most girls will ask if you'll buy them a drink, some guys do some guys don't - if I like a girl I do it's complicated to explain the pros and cons. Know how to ask or signal a girl to hop on you and show you her tits, I managed to ask that with 3 months of Japanese 20 years ago. Make an effort yourself.
If a girl is shy, I ask for permission even though the answer is always yes. If she is forward, just go at it.
I will write more if there is interest, or I can write guides on other shops or cities instead.Thanks for the review of everything in. I live in Japan but haven't tried these clubs yet was curious on Luxe it has a VIP room. Does getting the VIP give you anything extra or is it just litterly a private room. Also have you ever gotten a girls contact and been able to see her outside of the club.
Traveler X
07-04-24, 21:20
Thanks for the review of everything in. I live in Japan but haven't tried these clubs yet was curious on Luxe it has a VIP room. Does getting the VIP give you anything extra or is it just litterly a private room. Also have you ever gotten a girls contact and been able to see her outside of the club.I believe every club has a VIP room. VIP is a completely private booth where other customers can't see unless they walk by and peek. So no door but good enough - the perfect balance of safety for the girl and illusion of naughtiness. It costs roughly 3 times as much. Let me work backwards from there and say there is nothing a girl could do to be worth 24000 en for 40 minutes. I have other options for that. In my experience with such things you'd pay 3 times as much and get either exactly the same service (but with privacy) or 2 times the service. Depending on the girl. That's a recipe for disappointment when you pay and get the same exact service sometimes.
It's up to the girl and the staff wouldn't know and it is in their own interest not to know. But my experience with this is some girls will simply give you way better service on the floor than a different girl in a VIP booth. That is way too common. Put your effort in finding a high service girl, than taking some girl you like into VIP and praying she somehow becomes a high service girl. I wouldn't expect it.
Let me point out that at kabakura it's 1/2 the cost and you can't touch the girl, just talk. After all, you are only paying them to talk! So does it make any sense to go to a kabakura and try to kiss the girl and make her go topless? You get thrown out. Just go to an oppai club if you want to do that. So let's take this further. There are literally already clubs where you can touch a girl's bottom parts all you want. Usually butt naked. I went to one called Hadaka no Ousama (the Emperor with no clothes). So it is just a silly thing to try to take an in-between oppai club and then make the girl perform those bottomless services when you aren't paying them to. VIP does not entitle you to anything at all. Go to that next level club instead.
The real purpose if VIP is simping. You show off to a girl how much money you are willing to spend on her, even though she doesn't actually like you. Just want to spell it out real clear there. Believe me, I can spend as much as I like but don't see the appeal of paying a lot more to get a little more, when I could just pay less to get a lot more elsewhere. These clubs count on normal guys walking in and falling in love and spending more than they expect. That's why they offer such cheap intro rates. They know 9 out of 10 guys come in, have fun, and don't come back. That's cool with them. But they're looking for that 1 guy who keeps coming back and dumping all they have on a girl.
Buying a girl a drink is somewhere between 2400 and 2900 depending on a club (at kabakura it was 1400 to 1900). I don't mind doing it if I confirm I like the girl first. For some girls it clearly improves mileage but for others it does not. But by that I mean in most cases they are already high mileage and doing everything I want, so all the more reason for me to buy them a drink! I am not some guy who tricks girls into giving me a good time, if she goes out of her way even though I haven't bought her a drink yet then I am buying her a drink without her even asking. Yes a few girls are simply low mileage, but that is not common and is a sign that she is very new.
At least half of customers don't buy drinks. If you genuinely can't afford it then don't buy the drinks and you will still have fun.
Most girls will give you their contact info, it's all too common now. But the purpose of that is to get you to come back to the club. They are doing it with dozens of other guys. You are not special even if you simp for her. There are multiple simps per girl, remember. Notice how easy it is to get their contact info, that says everything. Even 20 years ago some girl I saw one time sent me a super nice message saying she misses me. I know I saw her but then realize I can't even remember her. Think about that. Do not have illusions.
I find when you really like a girl, suddenly it becomes possible for a girl to trick you into thinking she likes you. Even though it is so obvious to anyone else that she could not. Just don't. Why would an amazingly beautiful 20 year old girl be into you just because you saw her at an oppai club and licked her tits for money. Come on.
Just to be clear only 2 out of 12 girls I saw were amazingly beautiful. The other 10 ranged from cute or conventionally attractive to hot but not quite amazing. No average looking girl or any girl over 24. I'm sure they exist.
So anyways let me warn you how common it is to get a girl's contact info so you lose interest in that idea too. I mean if you like getting a message or three by all means but there are a lot of people where a random LINE message like that showing up on your phone screen would be..inconvenient.
I believe every club has a VIP room. VIP is a completely private booth where other customers can't see unless they walk by and peek. So no door but good enough - the perfect balance of safety for the girl and illusion of naughtiness. It costs roughly 3 times as much. Let me work backwards from there and say there is nothing a girl could do to be worth 24000 en for 40 minutes. I have other options for that. In my experience with such things you'd pay 3 times as much and get either exactly the same service (but with privacy) or 2 times the service. Depending on the girl. That's a recipe for disappointment when you pay and get the same exact service sometimes.
It's up to the girl and the staff wouldn't know and it is in their own interest not to know. But my experience with this is some girls will simply give you way better service on the floor than a different girl in a VIP booth. That is way too common. Put your effort in finding a high service girl, than taking some girl you like into VIP and praying she somehow becomes a high service girl. I wouldn't expect it.
Let me point out that at kabakura it's 1/2 the cost and you can't touch the girl, just talk. After all, you are only paying them to talk! So does it make any sense to go to a kabakura and try to kiss the girl and make her go topless? You get thrown out. Just go to an oppai club if you want to do that. So let's take this further. There are literally already clubs where you can touch a girl's bottom parts all you want. Usually butt naked. I went to one called Hadaka no Ousama (the Emperor with no clothes). So it is just a silly thing to try to take an in-between oppai club and then make the girl perform those bottomless services when you aren't paying them to. VIP does not entitle you to anything at all. Go to that next level club instead.
The real purpose if VIP is simping. You show off to a girl how much money you are willing to spend on her, even though she doesn't actually like you. Just want to spell it out real clear there. Believe me, I can spend as much as I like but don't see the appeal of paying a lot more to get a little more, when I could just pay less to get a lot more elsewhere. These clubs count on normal guys walking in and falling in love and spending more than they expect. That's why they offer such cheap intro rates. They know 9 out of 10 guys come in, have fun, and don't come back. That's cool with them. But they're looking for that 1 guy who keeps coming back and dumping all they have on a girl.
Buying a girl a drink is somewhere between 2400 and 2900 depending on a club (at kabakura it was 1400 to 1900). I don't mind doing it if I confirm I like the girl first. For some girls it clearly improves mileage but for others it does not. But by that I mean in most cases they are already high mileage and doing everything I want, so all the more reason for me to buy them a drink! I am not some guy who tricks girls into giving me a good time, if she goes out of her way even though I haven't bought her a drink yet then I am buying her a drink without her even asking. Yes a few girls are simply low mileage, but that is not common and is a sign that she is very new.
At least half of customers don't buy drinks. If you genuinely can't afford it then don't buy the drinks and you will still have fun.
Most girls will give you their contact info, it's all too common now. But the purpose of that is to get you to come back to the club. They are doing it with dozens of other guys. You are not special even if you simp for her. There are multiple simps per girl, remember. Notice how easy it is to get their contact info, that says everything. Even 20 years ago some girl I saw one time sent me a super nice message saying she misses me. I know I saw her but then realize I can't even remember her. Think about that. Do not have illusions.
I find when you really like a girl, suddenly it becomes possible for a girl to trick you into thinking she likes you. Even though it is so obvious to anyone else that she could not. Just don't. Why would an amazingly beautiful 20 year old girl be into you just because you saw her at an oppai club and licked her tits for money. Come on.
Just to be clear only 2 out of 12 girls I saw were amazingly beautiful. The other 10 ranged from cute or conventionally attractive to hot but not quite amazing. No average looking girl or any girl over 24. I'm sure they exist.
So anyways let me warn you how common it is to get a girl's contact info so you lose interest in that idea too. I mean if you like getting a message or three by all means but there are a lot of people where a random LINE message like that showing up on your phone screen would be..inconvenient.Thanks for the response, I am different than most guys LOL cost isn't that big of a deal for me. I have all the cheaper options mapped out if I ever need them. I like the chase and also maybe the ability to do something in the VIP room that normally doesn't happen. From your wording the possiblity is there, but more than likely it would cost extra on top of the VIP room. I might give it a try sometime.
The reason I asked about contact information is because most places out right ban there girls from giving out contact information. So knowing if it's allowed tells me to ask if I decided. Either being blunt or being discreet about it. Don't worry harbor no illusions about getting contact info. I have the contact info for several soapland and deari girls and I know. I message them and see them outside of there service. So my purpose in getting contact info is to attempt to smash outside of the place itself. I am an old hand at this just never tried this because I never thought it could lead to more. But it sounds like there is an opportunity for more.
Traveler X
07-05-24, 00:15
Thanks for the response, I am different than most guys LOL cost isn't that big of a deal for me. I have all the cheaper options mapped out if I ever need them. I like the chase and also maybe the ability to do something in the VIP room that normally doesn't happen. From your wording the possiblity is there, but more than likely it would cost extra on top of the VIP room. I might give it a try sometime.
The reason I asked about contact information is because most places out right ban there girls from giving out contact information. So knowing if it's allowed tells me to ask if I decided. Either being blunt or being discreet about it. Don't worry harbor no illusions about getting contact info. I have the contact info for several soapland and deari girls and I know. I message them and see them outside of there service. So my purpose in getting contact info is to attempt to smash outside of the place itself. I am an old hand at this just never tried this because I never thought it could lead to more. But it sounds like there is an opportunity for more.So yes, VIP is an option for you. The reason I didn't go into more detail on my own experience is it super YMMV what happens, one girl does the exact same service another girl will let you do more. I don't want to recommend something as random as that when I think people are guaranteed a good time going with the normal base course, and it's frankly quite cheap for what you get in my opinion. Believe me, I used to try and date women who weren't anywhere the same league as these girls, not even close. Didn't get a kiss more often than not, not that I'd expect it. Why bother when you can pay to win and just expect it. It is incredibly cheap when you compare that.
I also don't want to spoil a good thing by suggesting to customers to try things they aren't allowed, giving girls who don't want it a hard time over it. They'll just ban foreigners if enough of us do that.
In Nagoya oppai pubs the VIP wasn't ridiculous like in Shinjuku, just a little more. But this was 20 years ago and the simping business model wasn't much a thing back then. Now it is everywhere. Pay just to impress a girl and hope for the best. Rather than say I got more mileage in VIP, what I did was identified the one girl that already gave me high mileage and would clearly give me more in a private VIP, and I took her. That works, and that's the only way I'd recommend. Don't take a girl you like to VIP expecting her to do more, she might not.
Exchanging contact is completely out in the open at Luxe and Housekibako. Completely shameless. I didn't see it in Lester but probably just because I couldn't see other customers where they seated me both times (it's random).
I understand the idea at a soapland, if I exchanged contact with such a girl it would be clear what it was for (or at least what I was trying). She is already having sex with you, so asking her sex elsewhere is cool. Converting a girl who gives light service into full sex is not the same thing. A girl might do that under the table but she probably doesn't.
Keep in mind the whole reason young cute girls gravitate to low mileage bars like girls bars is precisely because they don't want to or have to put out. Oppai pubs are right in the middle of these two extremes but since they are filled with young cute girls the chance is low. And as I pointed out since it is customary here to exchange info, that itself tells you enough. Keep in mind the whole business model attracts stalkers - unlike soapland where they already bang every guy any time any day. So I think it's a waste of time.
Anyways, exchanging info this is a change in trends where yes in the past many shops banned it. But now shops realize if it's going to happen anyways and they can't stop it, they should instead allow or encourage it but train the girls to weaponize it. I woudln't be surprised if a few shops shared credentials with the girls so they can bring in customers. Especially since girls quit all the time. In fact I'm sure a few shops do exactly that, even though most probably don't bother and have the girls do all the baiting. It's basic marketing.
I have been reading the thread, and it seems like there are not many who is like me, a person who is happy with a skilled handjob. It seems that in Shinjuku area, the stablishment "Lovely Hands" is going to satisfy me in that regard?
Traveler X
07-06-24, 13:47
I have been reading the thread, and it seems like there are not many who is like me, a person who is happy with a skilled handjob. It seems that in Shinjuku area, the stablishment "Lovely Hands" is going to satisfy me in that regard?There are a lot of people like you. You have your choice of a legit Japanese establishment with Japanese girls, or take your chances with Chinese / other girls. I would always recommend the former, you get better service and the latter is usually not a legit establishment and I don't like taking that small chance. Chinese shops are often not labeled or underground (out of an apartment), probably for tax/visa reasons (it is legal to give handjobs for money in Japan, but Chinese shops are often not legal for other reasons)
I have several reasons for no longer getting handjobs that may help set realistic expectations. First, I was just curious and when seeing a Chinese girl I actually found attractive (not that often), I went with her after she approached me. Second, I prefer a cute young girl, no interest in older less attractive women. Only New Hot Point ever had cute young girls in my experience, and they're closed. Last, the best way to get a good handjob or blowjob from a young attractive girl is to just order FS from a young attractive girl in the first place. Preferably a repeat visit to someone you already know. I have my goto place in the US for that. That's why I only care about oppai pubs in Japan. So to set realistic expectations I would mention that not many handjob places have many young cute girls since NHP. But if anyone knows, let me know IMMEDIATELY. I will be first in line.
Never follow a black tout, way too many reports of scams and crimes not just that I've read but have heard of from others and even seen with my own eyes. They hang around specifically tourist-heavy areas and speak English towards foreigners. I suppose many of them must point out actual establishments but those range from non-Japanese to outright scams. But it appears they scam someone every day. So count yourself lucky if you used them and you were the others they actually helped. I just walk past them and ignore them, this is Japan they are smart not to do anything others can see. In the non-RLD districts black touts will direct you to legit foreigner establishments such as Roppongi clubs. That's fine, I'm talking about for example Kabukicho where I have heard they scam someone every day and have read official warnings from Japan and the US consulate about it.
You can see reviews for Lovely Hands online at multiple sites. I have not gone but I see those same sites have accurately reviewed New Hot Point, which I know is great, so no reason to doubt the info. Too bad NHP was closed in 2019 or I would be writing a full page guide on it right now because that is the only place that rivals the oppai pubs. They actually had only hot young girls give the handjobs or blowjobs. Most places have older or regular looking women. I suppose the problem with NHP is every customer was coming for Haruka who is a perfect 10, so when she and her friend retired they just had to close. That's why we can't have nice things with that business model, it is really hard to find a perfect 10 girl who is willing to handjob or blowjob every guy that walks in. What a champ.
If you'd like insight on Chinese massage girls, they call out 'massagu' to people walking by. Most will only give a massage at an actual establishment, a few will give a handjob often at an underground location - an apartment when I tried it. I've tried both. To be clear when a girl says she will give me a massage, she only gives me a massage. When she says she will give me a handjob, she gives me a handjob. Every girl did as promised. I'd say 90% or more girls calling out massagu only give massage. See my Nagoya post for how I know, I speak Chinese almost as well as Japanese.
See my posts in Nagoya for information on Chinese massage girls in Nagoya. I have recent posts too, but there is also a post from 20 years ago I forgot about! It brings a tear to my eye to see how I have moved on from handjobs by strangers to snacking on cute college girls 3 at a go.
Massage girls on the street exist in Yokohama and Tokyo too, in Tokyo I saw many in Roppongi but there's probably a better station I don't know about. Hope someone else can chime in and give a hand!
Attached are photos of Haruka and Lemon and Milk, blowjob/handjob girls from NHP. Girls in their 20s and beautiful. Yes, I really did get my dick sucked by these two girls and several others. In Haruka's case, many many times. It still blows my mind that I was able to all these years later, since I knew other clubs didn't have this (but were much cheaper). I also tried the handjob course as well as the flashlight course. NHP was not actually a handjob club, it was a strip club that offered handjobs. Likewise, in Osaka I went to Hadaka no Ousama which also had decently cute girls that gave blowjobs and let you finger them. That goes to my earlier thesis that you can get cute girls to suck your dick, but you don't go to a blowjob bar to get it (NHP is a strip club, Hadaka is a finger bang club).
I want to be really clear that I would not expect such cute girls if I walked into a handjob club in Japan. At a handjob club I expect an average looking woman, probably mid-30s based on reports of other shops. Please prove me wrong. Let me know immediately so I can go too.
So do not expect these girls below:
Incrociatore
07-06-24, 17:43
Hello fellow mongers,
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.
Thanks.
Hello fellow mongers,
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.
Thanks.Honestly an incredibly high chance I don't do it any more for two reason one I am old and fat now and two I have entanglements that make it difficult. You want to go to a HUB. It's a known hook up pick up spot. There are couple of other places but I am not familiar with them.
Any suggestions for the best ride sharing and translation apps?
Traveler X
07-06-24, 22:29
Hello fellow mongers,
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.
Thanks.This is too complicated to explain in one post. If you make the effort and take the time, you can do it. If you don't, then based on what you said you won't. In "30's and decent looking" combined with "no Japanese" means you have to make up for it in time and effort. Even a very charming and attractive European will need to at least try. Unless you are at the right place with the context of pickup being an option (ex. A club area), no women will even talk to you no matter how attractive you are. Whereas at the right place, even a more average looking guy has a chance but no woman is going to be clamoring for him. He has to demonstrate value.
I have very extensive experience dating Japanese women. It is a misconception that "Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners" that's total BS. 90% of Japanese women won't touch foreign men and will run. But 10% of Japanese women is 6 million people. But narrowing it down (exclude too young and old, those in secure relationships, etc.) and making the right approach at the right place is everything. It is everything. Find the right girl and focus on her, don't try to put a circle peg in a square hole. Even if a Japanese woman is interested in foreigners, she is probably not interested in you.
For the "just for fun" completely cold approach (walk up to a girl you like) I and my friends had the most success at Roppongi at night around or in the club areas. Friday and Saturday nights have the crowds. I do not want to set unrealistic expectations by talking about our experiences. You see, we made the effort. We made the best of what we had. We demonstrated value. In fact I knew what my friend liked and after chatting with many girls at a club I said to one girl she would like my friend (true). They ended up dating. You cannot force two people to be a match, they are either going to like each other and be each other's "type" or not. Even when you see a guy pick up a girl for fun, there is a mutual benefit that may be hard to see. One way or another that guy is her type or idea of fun.
That friend of mine actually brought along another friend that same night and introduced me. He was very conventionally handsome. However, he was very shy. He was nervous just talking about going to the club (first time). As a result, he got exactly nothing despite me trying several times to get him to talk to a girl I just met. Well, he did get something. The power of experience for next time where he might succeed. Anyways, you have to make the effort! He knew where he was at, he was still young, but he was afraid to talk to women like many of us were when younger. So there you have it, it is not one thing that does it but you have to offer something. I would not say it is easy.
Others might chime in on better ways to just bang for free. It happens all the time but is not easy like guys brag about. I suppose I was looking for girls to bang and also hang out with, so I cared a lot about things like personality and looks. So if your standards are loose there might be clubs that focus just on that. Or online, it works but it takes effort and has its own issues.
There is a difference between "just for fun" and "actually dating" Japanese women. Complete opposite approach. If you are sincere and actually looking for a real girlfriend, you could find them in your friend circle through work, school, hobby. Or go with friends to a club like the ones in Roppongi. At least one if not all of you should be decent at approaching women with the "cold approach" method. I have not tried the "club for sex" method because I don't think I'd meet a girl I'd like there. I don't think you would either. Otherwise there'd be a line out the door. It is a niche.
I have met women "just for sex" but it is not simple or easy. It takes work and practice. There was no formula or steps to follow for that to happen, I met the girl completely naturally. If you are in Japan a month that might never happen. The whole point of paying for play is it is consistent, if there was a reliable way to play for free nobody would pay for it.
Unfortunately most guys aren't sincere so I am reluctant to write a guide. I care about Japanese women believe it or not, they have done more for me than any Western women even knows how. If you are going "just for fun" don't pretend too hard otherwise or you will hurt a girl more. Best if the girl understands you are there for fun, maybe something more could happen, but you are just there "to meet people". Women are not going to bang for nothing unless you are extremely attractive / charming. In that case they are not banging for nothing, either.
The whole reason I go to oppai pubs and p4p is I do not like "dating women for fun" and hurting their feelings by playing with them. As I said, I am not some guy who tricks women into showing me a good time with nothing good enough in return. Me and my other riend have done that unintentionally with our ex girlfriends when young and we don't like it.
Banana Boi
07-07-24, 01:18
What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I was going to take a guy an American guy around Japan cause at first he said he loved Japan culture. Then as I talked to him more turns out he had the same misconception you have that he will be able to bang Japanese girls for free because he's American. I rolled my eyes, said he can go ahead and try while I'm enjoying a nice dinner somewhere else. Imo being gaijin in Japan is a huge negative, not a positive.
Traveler X
07-07-24, 01:57
Imo being gaijin in Japan is a huge negative, not a positive.I agree with this 100%. I had to try 10 x as hard as a Japanese guy to get a date with the same girl. So I did. Do not come on strong, that is repulsive. Trying hard means putting effort into yourself, your look, your behavior, your skills and assets. You have to have basic cultural sensitivity to succeed. Be a true gentleman if you want to thrive.
There is no point in even trying to date Japanese women unless you actually prefer them. I do, so that's why I'm willing to try 10 times as hard as most people. I learned Japanese mainly so I can date Japanese women. It's not worth it if you prefer other women.
90% of girls are not even going to consider you an option. Of the 10%, well since I am decent looking but not especially attractive, only 10% of them would even consider me. I can work with that 1%. I use my many other talents and assets. Since I genuinely like women, it is easy for me to have a conversation with many women without the context of expecting anything from them. That's what a gentleman does. I talk to grandmas, guys, anyone where the situation is appropriate. I do not approach grandmas or mothers but the situation comes up naturally. I'm not asking anything from them. If you behave with good manners it's a pleasure. I am confident, well dressed, and behave well so it does not raise alarms with women. Then when occasionally I talk with a woman of the right age who gives me the right signs, I decide if I like her or not and move from there. Be prepared to talk to hundreds of people, some of them women, this way. A person who does it differently than this is just doing nampa and will get what that gets. Go ahead but I don't recommend it and I won't help you.
Next step is to find the right venue where you maximize compatible women to meet so that you are allowed to naturally approach them, such as a club. Do not approach women who have no choice, such as the lady working at Starbucks. Don't be that guy, just do it the right way. As I said, I know a lot of guys aren't sincere so I am not going to give tips on nampa. I know it's going to happen but it's one reason Japanese women don't take foreigners seriously. That's why I suggest Roppongi because at least that's 50-50 GF / nampa where you might actually meet a girlfriend or someone who wants some fun (you are not going to find many girls who 100% want one or the other there). Just don't pretend to be something you're not and hurt someone. That's bad form no matter the country.
If you like Japanese girls there is a simplier way to get them than being a "gentleman" and having to learn the language.
Just go to Dubai: https://vip-dubai-bunnies.com/girls/japanese-escorts-in-dubai-uae/.
I agree with this 100%. I had to try 10 x as hard as a Japanese guy to get a date with the same girl. So I did. Do not come on strong, that is repulsive. Trying hard means putting effort into yourself, your look, your behavior, your skills and assets. You have to have basic cultural sensitivity to succeed. Be a true gentleman if you want to thrive.
There is no point in even trying to date Japanese women unless you actually prefer them. I do, so that's why I'm willing to try 10 times as hard as most people. I learned Japanese mainly so I can date Japanese women. It's not worth it if you prefer other women.
90% of girls are not even going to consider you an option. Of the 10%, well since I am decent looking but not especially attractive, only 10% of them would even consider me. I can work with that 1%. I use my many other talents and assets. Since I genuinely like women, it is easy for me to have a conversation with many women without the context of expecting anything from them. That's what a gentleman does. I talk to grandmas, guys, anyone where the situation is appropriate. I do not approach grandmas or mothers but the situation comes up naturally. I'm not asking anything from them. If you behave with good manners it's a pleasure. I am confident, well dressed, and behave well so it does not raise alarms with women. Then when occasionally I talk with a woman of the right age who gives me the right signs, I decide if I like her or not and move from there. Be prepared to talk to hundreds of people, some of them women, this way. A person who does it differently than this is just doing nampa and will get what that gets. Go ahead but I don't recommend it and I won't help you.
Next step is to find the right venue where you maximize compatible women to meet so that you are allowed to naturally approach them, such as a club. Do not approach women who have no choice, such as the lady working at Starbucks. Don't be that guy, just do it the right way. As I said, I know a lot of guys aren't sincere so I am not going to give tips on nampa. I know it's going to happen but it's one reason Japanese women don't take foreigners seriously. That's why I suggest Roppongi because at least that's 50-50 GF / nampa where you might actually meet a girlfriend or someone who wants some fun (you are not going to find many girls who 100% want one or the other there). Just don't pretend to be something you're not and hurt someone. That's bad form no matter the country.Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.
I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
Now if you walk out expecting girls just to flock with you cause your a foreigner or ganjin yeah not going to happen. But if you go looking with minimal effort you should find something. Hell I am baning a soapland girl for free because she thought I was a nice guy. I went out to grab sushi and a drink one time ended up at karaoke with three girls slept with one.
Traveler X
07-07-24, 08:10
Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.
I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
Now if you walk out expecting girls just to flock with you cause your a foreigner or ganjin yeah not going to happen. But if you go looking with minimal effort you should find something. Hell I am baning a soapland girl for free because she thought I was a nice guy. I went out to grab sushi and a drink one time ended up at karaoke with three girls slept with one.I don't disagree with many of the points you've made, though I consider it unrealistic for most people. So you may have really confused what I said. No need to make a contest about this.
You are talking for example about hookups going to a hookup bar. I'm not interested as I said, with exceptions it's just a waste of my time. In my travels I rejected a lot of women. If I wasn't particular, I would have had way more women and I don't want that.
Maybe that wasn't clear to you or just hard to accept that I want something very different. I don't consider quantity to have any merit. But if you consider it to be the only measure of worth I have probably had a lot more women than you thanks to p4p. And that is all I'm here to help people with, so they can do the same, not to brag and tell people it's going to be easy.
The only reason I wrote anything at all about meeting women is someone asked for help. It's good you gave your thoughts as well. We need different perspectives. These talks should be about what will work for other people, not about me. I think your ideas will help some people, and so will mine.
So there is no need for you to say I am doing something wrong. I don't judge others but it would be too easy for me to say you are doing it wrong. I don't because I recognize you are enjoying what you do, the same that I enjoy what I'm doing.
When I compare the fun and caliber of women I've had through meeting women vs p4p, it's not even close. Yes there are a few exceptions I treasure, but by and large the ladies aren't in the same league or even close to the same league. To be fair I am going to romance a woman closer to my age and enjoy her company. And I am going to want to bang a younger and more beautiful woman, too. So we need both types of women, civvie and p4p.
I could have easily written my posts about oppai pubs and meeting women as only positives and leaving out the negatives to set realistic expectations. I didn't. I feel your post really does. It reads "A fat foreigner can go to Japan and steal its women". I know what you meant, however do you get that? It's not about you or me but what some guy in his 20s reading this will think and do next. You and I were both there at some point in our lives. There are not enough of us in this world so let's not fight. Let's just help them.
Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.
I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
I tend to agree with this take, being a foreigner was an asset for me with Japanese women, not an impediment as many report here. For the first time in my life I casually hooked up with a regular chick at shopping mall (Shibuya) where we connected over some trivial stuff. She spoke limited English, I made a joke after a purchase and complimented her appearance and manners, we locked eyes, and it was on. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but would have been an idiot to let this go.
Hi.
Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?
Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?
Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?
Thanks.
SlickLicker
07-09-24, 15:48
Hi.
Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?
Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?
Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?
Thanks.I'm far from the expert, so there's probably a lot more than I know about.
But in Shinjuku try Soapland MAX. Bit hard to find by googling, but its gajin friendly and is like 32 k460.
In Yoshiwara it swarms with soaplands. Contrary to what I'm reading that most are not gajin friendly. I was invited inside almost every door, although I'm pretty sure most would add up a pretty hefty taks for not being japanese. (FYI I don't look asian, I don't speak any asain let alone japanese.) So could be it was just a slow day and they wanted customers, I don't know. I went inside one random, on the door it said 30 k4120. Once inside, they show pics, I ask price. 80 k. HAHAH so I politly say sorry to much, my bad I thought I seen 30 k on the door. The guy mumbles english and japanese mixed together something about 30 k being the 'charge', but what the added cost is I've no clue, he did go down to 60 k BTW, I still passed.
But anyway, in this area there's some affordable soaplands too. Though, I am guessing higher price here does mean better quality at least in rooms and maintanance. I went for a cheaper one and it was kinda like 20 years overdue for a refurb. I mean, almost any Thai soapy in Bangkok is in better state haha, even the shitty ones in the ally's LOL.
Traveler X
07-10-24, 03:49
Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?
Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?
Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?Am I reading these numbers right? 60,000 or 150,000 yen? It should 1/2 or 1/3 the lower number unless the place is special in some way. My experience was in Yokohama, you can see my guide in the Yokohama thread about soapland there. At Kirakira (Hinodecho station) the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($112), 70 minutes for 26000. So..you could go Kira Kira about 3-8 times instead. You can reach Yokohama by rapid line from Shibuya / Shinagawa in about 35 minutes, then go Hinodecho station. They are open all day til late at night.
I am sure there are better soaplands, Kira Kira is just average with decent looking women and good rooms. Kira Kira (formerly Mermaid) has a long history of taking foreigners, no upcharge. You need some Japanese of course, but not a lot. First thing they ask is if you have a reservation, if you can't get past that level of understanding I can't help you. Read the guide I wrote for more tips. I did window shop soaplands in Tokyo with a friend, they were a bit more expensive but not the prices I'm hearing (you are not the first to quote those numbers). Only 25% of shops took in foreigners, and at those shops only a few girls would take us. Plus they added on 10000 to the price. So we refused, we had other options.
There are some super high end soaplands that charge 60,000. You would consistently expect a young girl there plus a much nicer room, if not extra services. It is inconceivably expensive for soapland, so someone is getting ripped off if the prices go up from there. Those are "tourist only" prices. Not even actual JAV porn star soaplands charge that much.
At some point you might as well fly all the way to America or another country for a young jgirl because in the USA the rate for a 20's year old cute jgirl is $340 an hour. $100 for bb, $200 for video. A few are actual JAV porn stars that match the girl in the video (but always b-listers I never heard of and had to look up). It's a trend now due to the exchange rate. See my posts on the USAG forum. This is why I don't bother with soapland except out of pure curiosity. I am not expecting a cute young girl there, I just want to be in my favorite JAV for an hour and see what it's like. I'm glad I tried.
I think TAG is where I heard about Kira Kira. I wrote a review there long ago but can't find my login anymore. There were Tokyo soaplands mentioned there, however frankly I can't be bothered to go for reasons I've already listed. I'm not interested in soapland, I'm just happy to help someone else if they want to.
If you want, you can reserve a girl. I just went out of curiosity so I didn't bother, just walked in:
https://kirakira.yokohama/
Traveler X
07-10-24, 04:05
I went inside one random, on the door it said 30 k4120. Once inside, they show pics, I ask price. 80 k. HAHAH so I politly say sorry to much, my bad I thought I seen 30 k on the door. The guy mumbles english and japanese mixed together something about 30 k being the 'charge', but what the added cost is I've no clue, he did go down to 60 k BTW, I still passed.I had a similar experience at Yoshiwara, the system was weird where outside it said 30 k but inside they tell you a higher price (it was only like 44 k). But there was an explicit foreigner tax too. This was only at Yoshiwara. To be fair 120 minutes is a marathon and you can expect to pay a lot more for it but still 80 k is a tourist tax. In Yokohama outside it said clearly 50 minutes for 18000 yen, 70 minutes for 26000. That's the exact amount I paid. No foreigner tax.
Yoshiwara is expensive by all standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands.
Banana Boi
07-10-24, 10:13
But in Shinjuku try Soapland MAX. Bit hard to find by googling, but its gajin friendly and is like 32 k460.Since I just walked by the one in Asakusa I figured I'd take a photo. It's right outside the Tsukuba Express Asakusa station (not the main Asakusa station everyone goes to).
Seems much cheaper than Shinjuku prices. In Asakusa's Max it's 14,000 yen for 40 minutes. Can't tell you about girl quality between the 2 locations but it's foreigner friendly per the sign.
Fabulous post. Booking my ticket now.
Are you supposed to tip the girls or not?
Also, is it common to get the girl's number to have a one to one session separate from the club?
Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.
Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).
Is the girl giving rimming standard in the service offerings for the Amateur escorts (or for that matter other escorts)? If not, what option would you recommend for this please, as this is my favourite "hobby"?
This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).
Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.
Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts (https://amateurtokyo.com/), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.
Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.
Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!
My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.
My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.
About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.
About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.
Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.
I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.
Happy mongering my friends!
Traveler X
07-10-24, 13:14
Fabulous post. Booking my ticket now.
Are you supposed to tip the girls or not?
Also, is it common to get the girl's number to have a one to one session separate from the club?Don't tip the girls. You can buy them a girl's drink. That's basically the system. Some girls don't even ask for a drink but if things are going well most will. Some people do, some people don't.
At every club I went it is common to exchange contact info, however you should not assume it is to meet. It is mostly a waste of time, to give an illusion of intimacy. I only find it useful to get contact if I want to know a girl's schedule, since most girls don't work every day or consistently. This is an oppai pub, the girls you meet here are generally not going to meet you outside the club. I'm sure a couple do, but I would not count on it. The main purpose is so they can ask you back to the club.
In my opinion, save your money and just see her again a the club. If you are thinking of offering an extra high rate to take a girl out, well that's exactly what you're not supposed to do. There's a good chance it'll be a no, then it's awkward and you never see her again even though you like her. Don't fall in love either. You do not get your money's worth in those situations, though I'm sure many people believe they do at first.
I'm sure you must have some basic Japanese, the more the better. Stick to Luxe if you are just starting out, they are used to it.
There are places you can bang jgirls much better. Like the USA of all places. It's complicated why but the jgirls in the US are now mostly early 20s or ex JAV. Ever since the yen crash. See USAG where I also post (this is the USA sister site of this website).
Any recommendations for ride sharing apps?
I have a different type of question. I will be visiting Japan in a couple of months and was wondering if someone can recommend a Konyoku onsen near Tokyo. I have done quite a bit of reading and to be honest it is very confusing. Anywhere I can take a day trip and return back to Tokyo at a reasonable evening time. I prefer a onsen that you don't wear a swim suit. Nothing lude just want to experience the real thing. Hopefully I won't get burned for putting this into this category. Thanks in advance. I will also be in Osaka and Kyoto during the trip if you have other suggestions. Looking forward to trying out the soaplands.
Shall be in Shinjuku, July 16 - 23. Plan to visit Tokyo Hentai and Luxe frequently.
LMK if you want to meet up.
AussieGaigin
07-14-24, 05:21
Google will throw up a few suggestions, but I suspect they won't include foreigners in their definition of "mixed".
Shall be in Shinjuku, July 16 - 23. Plan to visit Tokyo Hentai and Luxe frequently.
LMK if you want to meet up.What hotel did you book in Shinjuku?
What hotel did you book in Shinjuku?Hotel Gracery Shinjuku which is supposedly a very short walk to Tokyo Hentai.
GaijinRoamer
07-14-24, 23:52
Any recommendations for ride sharing apps?I've always used Uber while in Japan. The only difference is that the traditional taxi service is linked with it, so a real taxi will show up.
I've also heard about S. Ride, but I've never personally used it.
Most people will tell you to avoid taxis in Japan as they're more expensive than a lot of other places around the world, but with much of Japan's public transit absolutely shutting down around midnight or so, when you're in a pinch. You're in a pinch.
I've been a bit of a lurker here, trying to understand the Japanese scene from the outside. It's not easy. Here's an attempt to give back.
I've had the chance to visit Barubola Marine Blue in Shinjuku in the last month, and a couple of times earlier this year. If you're looking for a foreigner-friendly soapland experience and are willing and able to pay, I can recommend it. They put a 20 K gaijin tax up, and are very upfront about it, so it's 60 k+ for 90 minutes. Affordable compared to the huge rip-off that is Don Juan, but otherwise. Very, very pricey.
However, on each of my visits, the girls have been gorgeous, and very accommodating. My Japanese is very limited, and so we used phone translation extensively, which worked well. As a newbie, you can just let the girl lead. From the sitting shower where you are thoroughly scrubbed, to the mutual bath, to slippery mat play, to bed time. They're great.
If you want to try it all, you'll need 120 minutes and some stamina. Otherwise, in 90 minutes, you generally have time for either bed or mat, but not both. 50 minutes is probably just some shower and bed time.
I have learned through experience that the house recommendations here are spot on. They're not trying to mislead you. They genuinely know who's great. The girls I have seen are mostly early to mid 20's in age, with one who was probably early 30's and by far the best service to make up for her slightly older age.
I don't believe it's possible to make a reservation as a foreigner. I am asked if I have one when I walk in, and then when I don't, I am always led to a waiting room. Sometimes I am alone, sometimes I am there with other men. Usually all Japanese, with maybe one other foreigner e. G. Chinese guy. Then they come with cards of who is available. Even as a walk-in, there have always been at least 2-3 options, with waiting times ranging from 5 to 40 minutes. Payment is made, they go over the rules (which are common-sense -- come on guys, don't be an ass), and then they hand you a number card.
I do recommend, although once you've added the Gaijin tax the price is a bit much. On my next visit I will spend some time looking at some of the lower cost options to compare.
Just wanted to say thanks to Kib123 for this great post. Amateurtokyo.com was everything he described and more.
In 2023 I used https://tokyo-puffpuff.com/ but this year on my trip to Tokyo the shop was closed. I came to this forum to find out what happened and came across this post. Perfect timing as I honestly believe it is the same company and they closed puffpuff and opened amateurtokyo a few meters away. I remember the young guy at the counter from 2023.
I went early and had a choice of 5 women, 3 blonde haired and 2 raven haired. I chose one of the raven haired woman, I forget her working name. My Japanese is very basic so I just used the translate app on my phone. We had a great session. The pricing was similar to what was quoted below. I did have a small extra fee for 1st timer but whatever since the Yen is so weak. The language barrier is easy to get over if you keep a friendly tone and smile and laugh at silly things when they happen. She showered me, we brushed our teeth. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, finished with Sumata. She asked if I wanted to try again as I had extra time left, I was jet lagged so I declined and just ended up using the translate app and broken english to chat and talk about her and places to eat in Shibuya.
We exchanged LINE ID's and she gave me her real name. We tried to connect outside of the club but my travel schedule was to hectic to make it work before I left.
Overall a great experience and would repeat again and try a different girl just for variety sake. Just to be clear No Full Service everything as described in the menu is available.
Be safe out there!! Be Kind!
L2's.
This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.
Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts (https://amateurtokyo.com/), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed.
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Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e5%b7%9d%e3%81%be%e3%81%aa%e3%81%bf/) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.
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Happy mongering my friends!
Traveler X
07-15-24, 08:40
I've had the chance to visit Barubola Marine Blue in Shinjuku in the last month, and a couple of times earlier this year. If you're looking for a foreigner-friendly soapland experience and are willing and able to pay, I can recommend it. They put a 20 K gaijin tax up, and are very upfront about it, so it's 60 k+ for 90 minutes. Affordable compared to the huge rip-off that is Don Juan, but otherwise. Very, very pricey.
However, on each of my visits, the girls have been gorgeous, and very accommodating.Thanks for the review. Just want to add a few important details. They have a small ( 9%) discount for early mornings so if somehow you are there 6 am-10 am (morning wood?) it is -2000 yen for 50 minutes and -5000 yen for 90 minutes. However, some girls do not work those hours. Note that there can be a big variation in wait time depending on which girl you choose. I won't go into the different reasons but 5 to 40 minutes sounds about right.
They are quite explicit that they are both open to foreigners and also add on a 20,000 yen foreigner tax. There are also other options such as 15 minute time extension, some girls are premium (adding 1000 to 6000), etc. The 20,000 yen foreigner tax is regardless of 50/90/120 minute choice, and as mentioned 90 is probably a good place to start if you want the full soap experience. 120 if you are multi-shot and long-lasting etc. The foreigner tax is even on the Japanese page so it is not like this is just a language test. It is in some ways a risk tax for them since their most important criteria is "no trouble". You can see their rules / prohibitions list for everyone are risk related. The rules are the bare minimum of decency so if you weren't going to follow them before being told then honestly soapland is not for you anyways.
Without the foreigner tax the rates are about right for Shinjuku. It's only 50% more than Yokohama Kira Kira so as long as the girls are better it is justified. They are foreigner welcome so just behave. It is common sense and you will have fun.
For those curious, the rules are pretty much the same at every shop:
Insulting / Violence against women.
Any sort of act that is disliked by women.
Any kind of act of stalking women.
Any members of a gang member or similar people are not allowed.
Usage by anyone in the same industry.
Headhunting or any act that is similar.
People who are drunk or is mentally unstable.
Any suspicion of possession or usage of drugs.
Anyone with or suspicion of sexually transmitted disease.
Lack of cleanliness.
Any other acts that the store may consider prohibited.
Acts that do not follow our instructions.
Acts that do not use hygiene products.
Notice that ugliness is not a factor. If you act like a normal person to the girls they will worship you just the same. Do not disrespect the girls that won't work anywhere in the world.
Hi,
Was stopped by girls dresses cute with massage shop placards in their hands asking me to go up the steps.
I ignore them. But saw 4 - 5 girls around Shibuya crossing.
Any idea what sort of places are these, worth visiting?
Looking for a good foreign friendly pink saloon, please advice.
Here for 2 days.
Thanks.
Traveler X
07-16-24, 04:21
Was stopped by girls dresses cute with massage shop placards in their hands asking me to go up the steps.
I ignore them. But saw 4 - 5 girls around Shibuya crossing.
Any idea what sort of places are these, worth visiting?If they are advertising massage, they will give you a massage.
If you want a handjob, find that. They're obviously different. Shibuya has some but you need to navigate Japanese website for them. I noticed Manzoku don't even bother advertising them since they are low margin (they used to).
Offering handjobs, blowjobs, or anal sex for money is legal in Japan so there is not some hidden messaging going on here. You can just ask the girl. Often they get customers for massage by using some appeal like cute outfits (including maid outfits), with cute girls, or some other gimmick. When it comes to handjobs, the girls don't usually stand outside. But there are sometimes independents however they have to be discreet since there is usually some other factor (ex. Their visa doesn't allow this work and they are operating out of some apartment rather than a legit business so can't allow landlord to know). Typically Chinese but any foreigner. Handjobs for money are legal, working as a foreigner without permission is not.
Unfortunately the site I use does not allow access from outside Japan and is in Japanese only: https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo.
In the past I have straight up asked a Manzoku staff to help me since even if they don't advertise it on their walls they may be willing to introduce you (it is a ymmv thing even on their end). I would not trust non-Jaanese touts, even though they can work out enough are not legit that I wouldn't.
Banana Boi
07-16-24, 07:02
I ignore them. But saw 4 - 5 girls around Shibuya crossing.Yes I noticed them right outside Shibuya Station at the Hachiko exit. There were close to 10 of them 2 nights ago. I didn't talk to any of them but I'm pretty certain they weren't advertising for things you were seeking. If in doubt just talk to these girls. I got lured into a maid cafe the other day. I know I know. Lame. But the girl was so damn cute, friendly, and spoke English well. I wanted to get out of the heat after walking from Ueno to Akiba. All in all worth under 2000 yen for entry and my curry dinner. I wasn't allowed to take photos or video unless I paid. um No.
Without the foreigner tax the rates are about right for Shinjuku. It's only 50% more than Yokohama Kira Kira so as long as the girls are better it is justified. They are foreigner welcome so just behave. It is common sense and you will have fun.Fully agreed! I also just had the chance to visit Kira Kira today, as a point of comparison. From my single data point, Kira Kira had more basic facilities, and generally much older girls. (I saw Lemon, who gave great service, and I enjoyed her large erasers, but she appeared 7-10 years older than listed). I would assess the girls at Barubola as overall much better. The value really depends though. At 26 K for 70 minutes vs 61 K+ for 90 minutes it really depends on what you have and what you're after.
I should mention that at Barubola I saw Mako Shiina. Her face was pretty but nothing special, but her body was absolutely perfect. One of the most gorgeous bodies I have ever seen.
And finally agreed on the common sense. Be a gentleman, follow the girl's lead, and you will have fun. This is not rocket science, and it's really unfortunate that they have to emphasize the rules so much because of what must have been some prior experiences.
Besides janjan and lovely hands, please suggest a pink salons or two.
I had an experience with my first jap using amateur tokyo.
Paid 17 k to select, 3. 1 k hotel. The girl was nice but saw my size and could hardly give a BJ.
Then asked for a tip for FS, showed me a message in English about provider not wanting to know.
Could hardly get it in.
Soapys I am finding too expensive.
Thought give a pink salons bjbar a go.
Thanks.
Arrived around 6:00 pm on Tuesday at Haneda. Immigration and customs was a very fast and efficient process. The taxi mentioned young free lancers.
Hang out at Okubo Park after dark. Also provided a good agency for women called Riona, 03.630. 21150.
Locating Tokyo Hentai was difficult. The building is across the street from the closed down Robot Restaurant. The agency is located in the back of 3 F.
Big selection of women. Chose Lisa.
Cute and slim but looks much better in the pics. Walked me to a love hotel. Brushed teeth and showered together. Spoke good English. Good GFE.
Follows instructions. Very sensual. Selected the 90 minute option which allows for multiple pops. Its very relaxing in a non stressful environment.
The shiatsu massage was on point. Unfortunately she wanted 30,000 yen for vaginal sex -- too much for me. She is available to meet up outside.
Of the club but her rates are outrageous for everything.
IMO Tokyo Hentai is a decent experience if you are willing to forego vaginal sex.
MrJoker123
07-17-24, 02:45
Started the night at golden gai with the fellas and had a few drinks, from there we started to make our way to some of the clubs in the area, but you find out quickly that 12 am is too early, a local promotor (the African dudes hanging about) decided to show us around and took us to a about 4 different spots 2 were clubs that offered additional service, 1 was a massage parlor and the other a whatever you want. Bad thing is I don't removed the names of the places but 2 where in the typical high floor in a building. We ended up staying in 1 of the club for 1 hour 4000 yen all you can drink after the 3rd drink the time ran out and the owner kicked us out because we didn't extend our time complete asshole wouldn't even let us finish our drinks, keep in mind the place was completely empty and we were the only guys there drinking and buying a few girls drinks while talking to them.
Out of the other 2 spot both had very beautiful girls to choose from but sadly at the 1st spot since we were last through the door, by time it was time to pick most of the beautiful girl were gone, so the second spot for the win, I lucked out and found this cute somewhat thick girl, I showered up and we start off with a CBJ with plenty of attention to the marbles, mission, leg on shoulder, lazy doggy to complete. After which 1 showered again and ran out. Damage was 20000 yen.
Woke up early to eat breakfast. While walking back to Gracery Hotel, I was approached by a Tawianese women about chica massages. Asked if.
Full sex was available. She stated vaginal intercourse was included. The price is 25,000 yen for one shot and 35,000 yen for 2 shots. Stated the chicas.
Are Japanese (extremely skeptical).
Walked with the lady to the location. The place is called Relax on the 4th floor. Its across a Lawson. Decent lineup of young chicas that are non.
Japanese. Rooms are tiny with a fan. No Towels. Selected a Thai looking chica with a nice rack and 2 shots. They are open 1700 to 600 am.
Typical rush job. Too much lube. No French Kissing. Decent experience but not repeating.
After completion, a different chinese women was outside asking me about pricing. Failed to disclose but was offering lower rates. Shop was next.
A Don Quiote. Declined.
Yesterday stopped by the Boburela soap land. Its difficult to find -- located in the back alley. Only presented with one option who.
Spoke English. Declined. This place gives rip off vibes.
Visited Tokyo Hentai again. Selected Asahi -- speaks passable English. Nice slim figure with a good face. Somewhat of a GFE experience.
The suction rate is low but sensual. Doesn't really french kiss. Wanted 30,000 extra for vaginal sex -- tempting but declined.
Overall Tokyo Hentai is a decent experience for Tokyo but nowhere close to the best-mongering locations.
Pegasus887
07-19-24, 06:26
Yesterday stopped by the Boburela soap land. Its difficult to find -- located in the back alley. Only presented with one option who.
Spoke English. Declined. This place gives rip off vibes.
Visited Tokyo Hentai again. Selected Asahi -- speaks passable English. Nice slim figure with a good face. Somewhat of a GFE experience.
The suction rate is low but sensual. Doesn't really french kiss. Wanted 30,000 extra for vaginal sex -- tempting but declined.
Overall Tokyo Hentai is a decent experience for Tokyo but nowhere close to the best-mongering locations.Mongering in Japan in general sucks, so the benchmarks are pretty low.
Traveler X
07-19-24, 06:56
Started the night at golden gai with the fellas and had a few drinks, from there we started to make our way to some of the clubs in the area, but you find out quickly that 12 am is too early, a local promotor (the African dudes hanging about) decided to show us around and took us to a about 4 different spots 2 were clubs that offered additional service, 1 was a massage parlor and the other a whatever you want. Bad thing is I don't removed the names of the places but 2 where in the typical high floor in a building. We ended up staying in 1 of the club for 1 hour 4000 yen all you can drink after the 3rd drink the time ran out and the owner kicked us out because we didn't extend our time complete asshole wouldn't even let us finish our drinks, keep in mind the place was completely empty and we were the only guys there drinking and buying a few girls drinks while talking to them.Hi, it is best not to follow the Nigerian touts, specifically those in Kabukicho at Shinjuku. They have a long history for drugging lone customers in bars and then robbing them. The US Embassy repeatedly warns about them. They are opportunistic and know how to hide their crimes, they lead people to second-rate titty bars, most that Japanese would not visit. Lucky for you if you are in a group. If you are alone and the bar is empty that is the most dangerous scenario. I have seen with my own two eyes them committing brazen crimes. For example several of them grabbed a ladies' purse and ran off - this was almost within view of a police station. Normally I walk past them but when nobody else was around one of them grabbed my arm so he could sell. A few will try to sell you drugs even though you are ignoring them and walking past them. They've been doing this a very long time.
The danger is particularly for those who are alone at a not busy time. Drugging incidents are reported every week:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tokyo/comments/1e67bij/iphone_stolen_in_japan_and_is_now_in_nigeria/
There are English speaking information shops in Kabukicho you can walk in. After 20 years I only use information shops because they are legit and directories of shops in the area. Keep in mind English speaking Asian touts are sometimes Chinese. I've spoken with them before and while they gave no trouble, all the shops they took me were 2nd rate, either run by Chinese or employing 2nd rate immigrant girls who were frankly quite ugly. I was curious though since I speak Chinese and asked him to take me a place Japanese customers would actually want, since all these other shops sucked. He took me to a Chinese hostess club, which was actually legit and good. I would not recommend going this route, I was young and adventurous then. But for those curious.
This guide is old but lists a few pinosaro, which is a blowjob bar. Not my thing but pretty unique to Japan where women come to you in rotation to give you a blowjob. As opposed to purely 1-on-1 blowjob shops. Sometimes featured in JAV:
https://rockitreports.com/foreigner-friendly-pink-salons-in-tokyo/
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This guide is old but lists a few pinosaro, which is a blowjob bar. Not my thing but pretty unique to Japan where women come to you in rotation to give you a blowjob. As opposed to purely 1-on-1 blowjob shops. Sometimes featured in JAV:
https://rockitreports.com/foreigner-friendly-pink-salons-in-tokyo/Thanks for sharing. Sounds very interesting!
Saturday night was extremely rainy.
Started at Luxe -- tough to find but its on the same street as Tokyo Hentai. This club is very deceptive. The "random" selection.
Of chicas clearly favors the Japanese.
The women are decent looking but only allow French Kissing if you buy a drink or extend the time. Tits are generally small but.
Shapely. Overall its a decent experience.
Met a nice local black dude. Took me over to Neo Tokyo. Its a bar with decent looking foreign women. Slightly on the older side but.
Overall attractive chicas. Met a hot looking mixed Japanese chica named Rika. Lives in Yokohama. Super chatty and aggressive about.
Purchasing lady drinks. Wanted 300,000 yen minimum to meet outside the club or 400,000 yen Chanel sunglasses.
Departed and visited a bar with that local blacks visit. Down the floor is a place with 20,000 yen one pop chicas. Decent line up with.
A nice slim big breasted Japanese chica. Unfortunately too drunk to entertain. The chica I banged earlier was there as well.
Walked downstairs to a Vietnamese bar. Good place to chill.
Besides janjan and lovely hands, please suggest a pink salons or two.
Thanks.I would go to Safari in Shibuya they will except foreigners and some girls there are cute and around 20's to late 30's. I got 69 twice there from same girl CIM and amazing full body massage. Other than that you can try Look x Look in Kanda it's in a fairly easy to get to this area and cheap there you can have two girls around 20's to late 30's both will give you BBBJCIM and some girls are cute at least when I went last year they were. Jyan Jyan is not the greatest it's hit and miss. But I have had amazing BBBJCIM service there several years ago like 2008. I've been to Academy not so good but was just ok again several years ago. Kiss Kiss that's near Asakusa has a great selection of young girls if you want FS and cute Japanese girls but it will cost around $120 for one hour but not nearly as much as many other places and they are super friendly and clean. Good luck and happy hunting.
JackWarlock
07-21-24, 11:01
Hi can you tell me the location or name of the place? Thanks.
I go to this place frequently when in Japan. Its easy to access and pretty efficient.
The 3 P service does not include lesbian action I am pretty sure, but I have not ordered 3 P enough to confirm. The 3 P is still very nice, as its more like Servent Girl-Master relation rather than a more Western one with experimenting and what not. I think if lesbian stuff happens, its out of pure luck and mood of the girls. But I mainly just get solo.
The main services you get is cow girl and a bath. Those seem the most common.
I really like the girl Sakura. She has nice feminine curves I get lost in OwO Her kisses taste really good. It is a distinct taste though, so you might be different. Pretty skilled in bed- its amazing what she can do. The voice is High! Very high voice. I love it, as she seems like one of those anime girls who are immature. Very cute. But the complete opposite of a deep volce. Her face makes me melt when looking at her. Submissive anime girl feel.
Another girl I really like is June. She has nice short hair that goes with her face. Her mannerisms are outgoing and sexy. Like she just seems so excited for sex LOL. Just overall pretty fun to have- can't go wrong with her. Liked her ass! Very genki girl.
Finally, this young girl Ria. I do not know if she's still around. Really sexy body and face- felt like being with athletic girl. She is more passive, so you have more control in the situation. Just felt good to dominate! Had really good time. Definitely really worth the money.
So yeah, Paradise in Kawasaki is pretty great and just really convenient to walk in and enter. Was not aware of other Paradise chains till this site.
Mongering in Japan in general sucks, so the benchmarks are pretty low.Mongering in Japan is awesome and easy, problem is everyone who comes tries to treat it like US mongering. It's not it's way better, at this moment I can jump on one of 5 sites and find a beautiful Japanese girl to do what I want. I have shared several of them. Notice most of you go to the ones that basically only cater to foreigners. Now if you don't like asian women obviously it's horrible. But if you like asian women. There's married women escorts, big breast escorts, high school girl or JK escorts everything you could ever imagine. Price wise with the exchange rate it's more than comparable. The best part is you don't have to worry about police because it's legal. So what part of mongering sucks. Actually maybe the lack transparent full service options. That's because it's illegal. Even then go to any soapland it's guaranteed. Also post websites that's have links to foreigner friendly soaplands.
GaijinRoamer
07-21-24, 13:37
I have a business trip to Tokyo coming up and would like a short term companion. Like the title states 1-2 weeks. I appreciate traditional mongering, but it would be nice to actually get to know someone over the course of a few dates. And I've found that my intimate interactions with women tend to get better when we have more opportunities to do it.
A friend went to Thailand last year, and he said he used a site that allowed him to basically rent a GF who also became some sort of translator / tour guide / companion. It sounded very convenient.
Are there any sites that cater to this specifically in Japan?
NRandom940
07-21-24, 15:41
Mongering in Japan is awesome and easy, problem is everyone who comes tries to treat it like US mongering. It's not it's way better, at this moment I can jump on one of 5 sites and find a beautiful Japanese girl to do what I want. I have shared several of them. Notice most of you go to the ones that basically only cater to foreigners. Now if you don't like asian women obviously it's horrible. But if you like asian women. There's married women escorts, big breast escorts, high school girl or JK escorts everything you could ever imagine. Price wise with the exchange rate it's more than comparable. The best part is you don't have to worry about police because it's legal. So what part of mongering sucks. Actually maybe the lack transparent full service options. That's because it's illegal. Even then go to any soapland it's guaranteed. Also post websites that's have links to foreigner friendly soaplands.Of the websites you posted earlier, which you pick as the best for foreigners? And how common is it to be about to negotiate for FS once you're in the room with them?
Mongering in Japan is awesome and easy, problem is everyone who comes tries to treat it like US mongering. It's not it's way better, at this moment I can jump on one of 5 sites and find a beautiful Japanese girl to do what I want. I have shared several of them. Notice most of you go to the ones that basically only cater to foreigners. Now if you don't like asian women obviously it's horrible. But if you like asian women. There's married women escorts, big breast escorts, high school girl or JK escorts everything you could ever imagine. Price wise with the exchange rate it's more than comparable. The best part is you don't have to worry about police because it's legal. So what part of mongering sucks. Actually maybe the lack transparent full service options. That's because it's illegal. Even then go to any soapland it's guaranteed. Also post websites that's have links to foreigner friendly soaplands.On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\
As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?
My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.
Any assistance and advice is sincerely appreciated!
Of the websites you posted earlier, which you pick as the best for foreigners? And how common is it to be about to negotiate for FS once you're in the room with them?If you want a more unquie Japanese experience I recommend city haven. The catch is finding a store that has a line account that you can message. Also check the girls pages themselves a lot of them have twitter and you can message them directly. The negotiation for F / S is a very much a millage may very. Though if they lost anal fuck on the profile way more likely to be an option. As I have stated before most girls will say switch. Have only had one occasion where the girl said only anal and I was two big. For most girls it's a code to say they offer full service I also wouldn't start untill your both naked and have touched each other. At that point she's more comfortable with you. If you come out the gate asking you can come off as aggressive which they don't want.
AussieGaigin
07-22-24, 06:13
I have a business trip to Tokyo coming up and would like a short term companion. Like the title states 1-2 weeks. I appreciate traditional mongering, but it would be nice to actually get to know someone over the course of a few dates. And I've found that my intimate interactions with women tend to get better when we have more opportunities to do it.
A friend went to Thailand last year, and he said he used a site that allowed him to basically rent a GF who also became some sort of translator / tour guide / companion. It sounded very convenient.
Are there any sites that cater to this specifically in Japan?You might try some of the dating sites, or classified personal ads pages. A few years ago, before the internet was de riguer, I used Metropolis magazine to get dates. I found one who was with me for several days; she wouldn't do overnites, but we managed a few day time encounters. I had separate dates many evenings / nights.
Decided to try Tokyo Amateur due to Hazuki. Taxied to the location -- difficult to find. The booker speaks some English. Unfortunately she.
Was booked for the next 3 hours. Selected Kokoro.
This agency is much less user friendly than Tokyo Hentai. The booker wanted me to walk independently to a love hotel. It was too complicated.
To locate. The booker unhappily changed me to a love hotel next door. Booked the 2 hour option.
Chica arrives at your room. Kokoro may not have the tightest body but has a very cute face with big lips. Speaks virtually no English. Service.
Was a much better GFE than Hentai. Passionate and sensual. It was so relaxing that we both fell asleep. Highly recommend.
Steve 9696
07-22-24, 13:25
Hi can you tell me the location or name of the place? Thanks.That post is from 2019. Unfortunately Paradise closed a couple years ago. Real shame. It was run by same guys as THC and was amazing while it lasted. Boo.
Just curious. I'm going to Tokyo in a few weeks and like the idea of hooking up with a tachinbo. As a gaijin, would that be possible in Shinjuku (Okubo Park) or Uguisudani?
MrJoker123
07-23-24, 03:29
Thank you for this bit of info will remember for future trips.
Hi, it is best not to follow the Nigerian touts, specifically those in Kabukicho at Shinjuku. They have a long history for drugging lone customers in bars and then robbing them. The US Embassy repeatedly warns about them. They are opportunistic and know how to hide their crimes, they lead people to second-rate titty bars, most that Japanese would not visit. Lucky for you if you are in a group. If you are alone and the bar is empty that is the most dangerous scenario. I have seen with my own two eyes them committing brazen crimes. For example several of them grabbed a ladies' purse and ran off - this was almost within view of a police station. Normally I walk past them but when nobody else was around one of them grabbed my arm so he could sell. A few will try to sell you drugs even though you are ignoring them and walking past them. They've been doing this a very long time.
The danger is particularly for those who are alone at a not busy time. Drugging incidents are reported every week:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tokyo/comments/1e67bij/iphone_stolen_in_japan_and_is_now_in_nigeria/
There are English speaking information shops in Kabukicho you can walk in. After 20 years I only use information shops because they are legit and directories of shops in the area. Keep in mind English speaking Asian touts are sometimes Chinese. I've spoken with them before and while they gave no trouble, all the shops they took me were 2nd rate, either run by Chinese or employing 2nd rate immigrant girls who were frankly quite ugly. I was curious though since I speak Chinese and asked him to take me a place Japanese customers would actually want, since all these other shops sucked. He took me to a Chinese hostess club, which was actually legit and good. I would not recommend going this route, I was young and adventurous then. But for those curious.
This guide is old but lists a few pinosaro, which is a blowjob bar. Not my thing but pretty unique to Japan where women come to you in rotation to give you a blowjob. As opposed to purely 1-on-1 blowjob shops. Sometimes featured in JAV:
https://rockitreports.com/foreigner-friendly-pink-salons-in-tokyo/
Traveler X
07-23-24, 06:36
On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\
As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?
My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.Yoshiwara is too expensive even by Japan standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands. I've poked my head in them with a friend out of curiosity since it is a historical site, but would not recommend.
For a detailed explanation of the sex business in Japan, with all the nuances of legality, here is a detailed interview with a Japanese SW. It will answer every question I have ever heard on this board about delivery health and soapland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68
For comparison, I will post the price list for Barubola soapland (see 2 images for details). It is foreigner friendly with a foreigner tax. For foreign customers it is 46,000 ($294) for 50 minutes and 61,000 ($390) for 90 minutes. For Japanese customers it is 26,000 ($166) for 50 minutes 41,000 ($262) for 90 minutes. Assuming the girls are attractive, that's about right: https://barubola.com/en/.
For a cheaper coice just to try the experience, see my post in the Yokohama thread of Kira Kira. No foreigner tax, been foreigner friendly for many years (used to be called Mermaid). 50 minutes for 18000 ($115). The women are going to be of lower caliber than Barubola, but the service will be good. You can see these women 7 times for the price you quoted for Yoshiwara.
Japan also offers a wide variety of play besides fs that is both legal and relatively cheap. If you have internet within Japan (or use VPN for Japan), use the cityheaven website. It is an excellent resource.
Finally, compare with the jgirl scene in the USA. In the last 2 years, kgirl agencies (and some corgs) now host Japanese girls at incall. The rate is about $320-$350 for 60mins. Options include $100 for bb and $200 for video. The girls tend to be early 20's, fairly attractive. See the USAG website for details. I do go to soap in Japan out of curiosity since the experience is different with the air mattress, body gel, etc..
Last attachment is one girl I paid video option for. I will not be posting proof but lots of other guys in LA saw her when she toured and if you know how she is #391375 to see her reviews. Those who know, know. She looks better in the photos but it's her. She was $340 for 1 hour, including shower together before and after.
So do not pay $700.
Yoshiwara is too expensive even by Japan standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands. I've poked my head in them with a friend out of curiosity since it is a historical site, but would not recommend.
For comparison, I will post the price list for Barubola soapland (see 2 images for details). It is foreigner friendly with a foreigner tax. For foreign customers it is 46,000 ($294) for 50 minutes and 61,000 ($390) for 90 minutes. For Japanese customers it is 26,000 ($166) for 50 minutes 41,000 ($262) for 90 minutes. Assuming the girls are attractive, that's about right: https://barubola.com/en/.
Japan also offers a wide variety of play besides fs that is both legal and relatively cheap. If you have internet within Japan (or use VPN for Japan), use the cityheaven website. It is an excellent resource.
Aside from the entry fee, what is the "tip" the girls are looking for once you're in the room?
Are the shops a better option?
Only going to be in Tokyo for a total of 6 days on the front and back end of a Thailand visit. Not looking to be cheap charlie. Not at all. But if I spend would like to get fair value and not get hosed.
Totally agree with your Japanese girls in US Korean run establishments. Many early 20's good looking Japanese girls with do an hour of BBFS in NYC for $500 all I'm. With MSOG.
And finally, thank you for your great and very informative posts!
Hi, I'm going to Tokyo soon. Do you know these places? Do you recommend them?
https://hentaitokyo.com/
https://paradise-tokyo.net/home
https://bishojo.tokyo/
They look to be branches of the same "company" but I don't know.
Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?
AussieGaigin
07-28-24, 03:52
Hi, I'm going to Tokyo soon. Do you know these places? Do you recommend them?
https://hentaitokyo.com/
https://paradise-tokyo.net/home
https://bishojo.tokyo/
They look to be branches of the same "company" but I don't know.
Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?If you read back through a few posts, and use the search function, you should find answers to these questions.
Traveler X
07-28-24, 10:12
Aside from the entry fee, what is the "tip" the girls are looking for once you're in the room?
Are the shops a better option?
Only going to be in Tokyo for a total of 6 days on the front and back end of a Thailand visit. Not looking to be cheap charlie. Not at all. But if I spend would like to get fair value and not get hosed.
Totally agree with your Japanese girls in US Korean run establishments. Many early 20's good looking Japanese girls with do an hour of BBFS in NYC for $500 all I'm. With MSOG.In my limited experience, soaplands will always give you FS for whatever price paid, no matter if you paid 18 k (cheap) or 90 k (too much) to enter. Yoshiwara is weird and separates it into two separate fees, a bathing fee (the shop) and a service fee (the girl) - so you might see a sign that says 22 k or 44 k but suddenly with service and gaijin tax it balloons to some stupid number.
But generally every other soapland is all-inclusive one price. So I got FS every time at soapland even though I paid 18 k ($117) or 22 k.
It is delivery health where you need to tip, because it is completely between you and the girl. Same with a stripper, it's up to her the tip and if she even offers (at DH some girls don't), so I've heard 1-3 man. The shop doesn't know, doesn't want to know, and will be pissed if you even try to bring it up with them. Any time you negotiate the girl, she is obliged to say "don't tell the shop" Exactly the same situation as strippers that fuck in the VIP. The strip club manager does NOT want to know and every girl says her own rate. It's hilarious because over time I learned the girls don't even know each other's rate.
But delivery health is far inferior to what you get in the US with kgirl agencies, so if you have access to that don't bother. Jgirls in the US are way better value for simple FS. I only go soapland because it is a unique experience and service in itself. The closest thing in the US is nuru but that's not half of it.
Thailand is of course even better value unless you are set on jgirls. You even get to 'interview' them in bars and pay the bar fine for whoever you like. What I would actually recommend in Japan are cheap and unique shops like oppai pubs where the girls are pretty much always young and attractive. There are HJ and BJ bars, those are 100% legal and generally cheap, but with any language barrier your choices are limited. And in my experience only a few have really cute girls. Most do not for weird reason. Stick with Japanese-run shops they will give you the best service.
As I mentioned, you are going during a ridiculously hot season. The good news is oppai pubs tend to open 6pm/8pm to 12pm/1am in Shinjuku. The bad news is you will miss your last train if you stay til close and aren't staying nearby. So just sample after dinner and see if you like. Fridays and Saturdays are nice days for Roppongi clubbing and people watching. The Shinjuku Manzoku information booth will direct you to legit places like oppai pubs and sexy cabarets, probably Luxe if you only speak English.
Or you can close your eyes and get serial blowjobs by 2-3 probably middle-aged women in a row, but it's just not my thing no matter how wild that sounds. I walked by that place three times but couldn't bring myself to go in. Instead, I went to what I think was called Super Angel, a sexy cabaret where you point at a girl by number and she shows up to you, hops on, and off you go (variant of oppai pub). Main reason I didn't go more is Super Angel was mostly Chinese and SE girls, though they all spoke Japanese and it was Japanese run. I prefer 100% Japanese girls, yes sir.
Traveler X
07-28-24, 10:30
Also I am interested to know how the situation is around sex intercourse, I mean vaginal penetration. It looks to be illegal in Japan but maybe girl will do? Have I to ask?Gambling is also illegal in Japan. But there are 7000+ pachinko parlors in Japan in plain sight. I went in and won $200 with beginners luck. To sum it up it's gambling. The pachinko parlor cannot give you any money. Yet somehow I turned those balls I won into real money at some back alley shop next door that had "nothing to do" with the pachinko parler. This random shop by coincidence was desperately trying to buy credits that pachinko balls will buy. Gee. Not gambling right. This system is 100% effective at stopping law enforcement in Japan by the way, because nobody cares about pachinko.
Pachinko is a legal fiction. So is soapland. Soapland started as "assisted bathing" for older men who could not wash themselves. In the same way that Pachinko is not gambling.
Not every DH girl does fs. Every soapland girl does.
Like gambling, soliciting for FS is illegal in Japan. So you pay soapland for money had the staff have "no idea" what goes on, they just run a timer and ask if you are happy after. Yet every girl fucks.
Or delivery health where you pick a girl and take her to a love hotel and you are paying her to suck you only. And yes, some girls only suck dick. But if you vibe with the girl your chances are much higher. They are there to make money and maybe meet a new regular they can add on line for freelance. YMMV.
The DH shop emphasizes that FS is totally illegal and it is absolutely not allowed. If it is hotel health they might even put a ton of stickers on the wall saying 'fs prostitution is illegal' over and over like wallpaper. But oh by the way this girl allows anal on their official menu, and you wonder if maybe for a tip she might have you miss the hole. There are zero other witnesses anyways. Do not discuss with anyone but the girl and nobody cares.
One Eyed Man
07-28-24, 17:56
Not every DH girl does fs. Every soapland girl does.Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.
In my limited experience, soaplands will always give you FS for whatever price paid, no matter if you paid 18 k (cheap) or 90 k (too much) to enter. Yoshiwara is weird and separates it into two separate fees, a bathing fee (the shop) and a service fee (the girl) - so you might see a sign that says 22 k or 44 k but suddenly with service and gaijin tax it balloons to some stupid number.
But generally every other soapland is all-inclusive one price. So I got FS every time at soapland even though I paid 18 k ($117) or 22 k.
It is delivery health where you need to tip, because it is completely between you and the girl. Same with a stripper, it's up to her the tip and if she even offers (at DH some girls don't), so I've heard 1-3 man. The shop doesn't know, doesn't want to know, and will be pissed if you even try to bring it up with them. Any time you negotiate the girl, she is obliged to say "don't tell the shop" Exactly the same situation as strippers that fuck in the VIP. The strip club manager does NOT want to know and every girl says her own rate. It's hilarious because over time I learned the girls don't even know each other's rate.
But delivery health is far inferior to what you get in the US with kgirl agencies, so if you have access to that don't bother. Jgirls in the US are way better value for simple FS. I only go soapland because it is a unique experience and service in itself. The closest thing in the US is nuru but that's not half of it.
Thailand is of course even better value unless you are set on jgirls. You even get to 'interview' them in bars and pay the bar fine for whoever you like. What I would actually recommend in Japan are cheap and unique shops like oppai pubs where the girls are pretty much always young and attractive. There are HJ and BJ bars, those are 100% legal and generally cheap, but with any language barrier your choices are limited. And in my experience only a few have really cute girls. Most do not for weird reason. Stick with Japanese-run shops they will give you the best service.
As I mentioned, you are going during a ridiculously hot season. The good news is oppai pubs tend to open 6pm/8pm to 12pm/1am in Shinjuku. The bad news is you will miss your last train if you stay til close and aren't staying nearby. So just sample after dinner and see if you like. Fridays and Saturdays are nice days for Roppongi clubbing and people watching. The Shinjuku Manzoku information booth will direct you to legit places like oppai pubs and sexy cabarets, probably Luxe if you only speak English.
Or you can close your eyes and get serial blowjobs by 2-3 probably middle-aged women in a row, but it's just not my thing no matter how wild that sounds. I walked by that place three times but couldn't bring myself to go in. Instead, I went to what I think was called Super Angel, a sexy cabaret where you point at a girl by number and she shows up to you, hops on, and off you go (variant of oppai pub). Main reason I didn't go more is Super Angel was mostly Chinese and SE girls, though they all spoke Japanese and it was Japanese run. I prefer 100% Japanese girls, yes sir.I disagree that all delivery Health are all inferior. Like anything not all K shops are good. There are quite a few delivery health shops where you'll get the girlfriend experience. There's also a few that provide Full service. Notice I say provide full service not offer it there is a subtle difference. The catch is most of those are Japanese language only. So there not available to most foreigners. I have had a friend introduce introduce me to one of them.
The true barrier for most of us is the Japanese language. If you can speak the Japanese language everything gets easier. Plus Japan is the land of hidden Gems. Things that are available but never talked about. I was with my Japanese buddy in a drinking area one time. He talked to one of hawkers. The guy explained with this delivery health if you get 120 minutes or higher the girl will give you full service guaranteed. So full-service was available if certain options were picked. The problem is it does change from shop to shop.
Hell there is 100000 yen all night girlfriend service. 100000 which is about 700 give or take. The girl is yours for the night you want to eat drink the fuck all night or just go fuck she's yours for the night. The problem again is language barrier. It's Japanese speaking only. Sometimes it just takes time and friends. For those of you visiting it isn't the best but if your going to be where awhile it's great.
The reason most of us who live here won't do by name reviews as much. If I blast out and say this girl does full service. It has been known to get back to the store and the girl lose her Job. Happened to one of the fee girls I reviewed by name. Guy went tried to get full service she didn't like him so she denied it. So he contacted the shop and told them they had to let her go because there was a report of Full service.
The move for most of us who live here is see the girls via the store get there contact information. See them outside of the store with no rules. As of right now I have 5 keepers and least 10 others girls on call I can contact when I want to have fun.
Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.Yeah you got the okie doke they set that up specifically to get a easy thing for there girl. If you ever go to a soapland and in "english" it says no full service get out it's a ganjin trap. Most soaplands will not ever mention anything sexual outright because it's just a bath house. Having anything sexual there would be illegal. Your just being bathed by a beautiful naked Japanese girl which is non sexual of course. The girls have taken to using twitter to advertise they have a list of rules for posting. Can't show condoms or anything resemblanling a bed in the picture. Honestly it sounds like you went to some massage place not a soapland.
All the good soaplands have emergency procedures in case of police inspections / raid. To get rid of all the condoms so they can't be tied to sex. In fact one of the main Job for the tencho is to delay the police long enough for the staff to warn all the girls and hide or ditch the condoms.
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Hell there is 100000 yen all night girlfriend service. 100000 which is about 700 give or take. The girl is yours for the night you want to eat drink the fuck all night or just go fuck she's yours for the night. The problem again is language barrier. It's Japanese speaking only. Sometimes it just takes time and friends. For those of you visiting it isn't the best but if your going to be where awhile it's great.
...Greetings. I have contributed field report to this and other forums.
Could you provide info or a link or a PM regarding the all night girlfriend service?
Pegasus887
07-29-24, 04:08
Interesting. Years ago, I went to a soapland in Ueno called NYNY that I had read about here that was foreigner-friendly. I think it's known for having older ladies. Anyway, I had to read and agree to a list of rules (in English) that specifically said no FS. I really hit it off with my masseuse, but again, no FS. The rooms even had little portholes where someone could look in to ensure that no funny business was going on. Clearly, I took this theater too seriously and didn't know how the game is played.There are no Soaplands in Ueno, NYNY is a fashion health which is a incall version of a delivery health service.
This location is displaying on my Tik Tok feed with someone doing a walk about and with a lot of really attractive girls just hanging out looking for business. I realise some of these with the placards are canvassing for all kinds of venues but the rest seem to be freelancers. Is this a genuine thing in Shinjuku and worth doing, despits some of the reports below guarding against them?
This location is displaying on my Tik Tok feed with someone doing a walk about and with a lot of really attractive girls just hanging out looking for business. I realise some of these with the placards are canvassing for all kinds of venues but the rest seem to be freelancers. Is this a genuine thing in Shinjuku and worth doing, despits some of the reports below guarding against them?This is true but so many scams and underage girls and finally language barrier. It's honestly not worth the hassle to mess around with. If you speak pretty good Japanese it's worth a shot. If your going up to use Google translate good luck.
Nice Fjords
07-29-24, 22:35
On my way in a few weeks for my first Tokyo visit ever. Been diligently reading the board over the past month or so. Recently came across this Vice Article:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3vb7j/how-japans-secretive-soapland-brothels-operate\
As someone who is always skeptical / critical of anything read on the internet, especially sites like Vice. Is there any truth to this article?
My primay concern is regarding pricing at the Soaplands in Yoshiwara. From reading the article if it isn't hyped. Getting laid at a Soapland could run you $700-1000 if my math is correct. Can anyone comment on this especially pricing at specific Soaplands in Yoshiwara.
Any assistance and advice is sincerely appreciated!I went to a few soaplands and getting laid was more like 150 $. But the only name I remember of soapys is club39.
There was no negotiating for FS or talk about FS. It just happened, or I just did it. Either way, I was prepared to be stopped, but it didn't happen (at the soapy).
And I got to experience the stool and nuru and whole shebang.
In a couple I made appointment with the girl over X and others I just showed up at the soapland.
The girls said they hadn't met many foreigners and seemed nervous and exited to see one, so that was kinda cute.
For me, 700 $ for an hour is quite insane price, even for delivery health. At most I spent 220 $/ h for deliveryhealth and that was with some options I wanted to try and min 2 h.
But yes, I've seen deliverystores that ask 100 k JPY / 700 $ for an hour.
See some different prices here:
https://eroticguide.tokyo/category/brothel-soapland/
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/shop-list/
I'm new to Tokyo and I've been doing my research here in the forum. I've learned about soaplands, pink salons, massage places, etc, but one thing I still can't figure out.
Near subway stations, in areas where workers go for after work drinks, you can see these places with a sign outside showing pictures of girls and often girls outside trying to bring in customers.
What kind of places are these exactly?
JackWarlock
07-30-24, 11:54
Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.
Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.LOL are you looking or vaginal sex or raw. If its hard to find vaginal how hard do you think it will be to find raw.
AussieGaigin
07-31-24, 00:40
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.It is not included when you book, because it is illegal. What happens when you are in private with the girl may be negotiable with her.
Hey guys,
I signed up to this forum to ask some questions about visiting the Philippines, but I figured I'd post in this thread to let you guys know that I live and work in Tokyo. For a long time I worked part-time in the nightlife of Kabukicho. Frankly I was doing some shady shit. Point is I know basically all the businesses in Shinjuku and many of my good friends are the girls who worked in the water business so if you have any questions at all I'd be happy to give my two cents.
I'm new to Tokyo and I've been doing my research here in the forum. I've learned about soaplands, pink salons, massage places, etc, but one thing I still can't figure out.
Near subway stations, in areas where workers go for after work drinks, you can see these places with a sign outside showing pictures of girls and often girls outside trying to bring in customers.
What kind of places are these exactly?Girls holding signs work for kyabakura ("cabaret clubs") which are effectively hostess bars. You pay by the hour and typically get nomihoudai (all you can drink). They'll talk to you, hold you arm, sing karaoke, etc. But for all intents and purposes it is not really sex work. That being said, I dated a couple kyabajo -- they will see you outside of work if they really like you.
Do not go to kyabakura if you don't speak Japanese because you won't have a good time. The doorman will usually ask if you speak Japanese and politely turn you away if you do not. I suggest visiting one of the international girls' bars if you like this kind of thing, usually a mix of Japanese and Filipina girls.
Some places ask via email / phone / online-form about the country I am from. Are they looking to assess my skin color and ethnicity or where I permanently live or hold citizenship?
For example, if the client answers being from the USA, will the provider expect / assume that the client is a white guy?
Some places ask via email / phone / online-form about the country I am from. Are they looking to assess my skin color and ethnicity or where I permanently live or hold citizenship?
For example, if the client answers being from the USA, will the provider expect / assume that the client is a white guy?I don't know the exact reason I do know some places have started banning Chinese and indian customers due to issues. They don't publicize it but I know quiet a few working girls who won't see guys from those countries.
Kept hearing about this place, so I made a daytime trip. Let me say it was worth the wait! Very clean place, and as it says geared towards the non Japanese customer. Prices were reasonable, and the talent was spot on. One thing I did find interesting was that the front desk ladies were Pinay, but all the providers were Japanese. Everything is on the table there. Of course it says "soapie" but trust me, you get more than a bath there! Follow the link: https://gfe-japan.net/.
Safe Hunting!
Steve 9696
08-03-24, 12:26
Kept hearing about this place, so I made a daytime trip. Let me say it was worth the wait! Very clean place, and as it says geared towards the non Japanese customer. Prices were reasonable, and the talent was spot on. One thing I did find interesting was that the front desk ladies were Pinay, but all the providers were Japanese. Everything is on the table there. Of course it says "soapie" but trust me, you get more than a bath there! Follow the link: https://gfe-japan.net/.
Safe Hunting!Took a look at the website and got to say it looks legit due to the parallels with THC and the fact that THC used to run Paradise in Kawasaki pre-COVID. The whole vibe and layout of the website just screams it's the same group. I've always been a THC fan and went to Paradise twice and adored it. Think is could be the real deal. And Kawasaki is super easy to get to on the subway. Good find!
Oh and also the THC staff were usually Pinay (Philippine) which means excellent English and another tell that is prob associated with THC or former employees thereof.
GFE is legit and just like THC. Same sort of operation.
There's also the GFE soapland, which is like the old Paradise and Rush Hour soaplands.
https://gfe-japan.net/
Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.Soaplands are the only place where you usually get vaginal.
It's illegal everywhere else.
They CAN do "AF" or anal fucking though.
Sometimes you pay for AF but get pussy. Other times you pay for AF and get actual anal sex.
I've been to maybe 35 soapland visits over 10 years. Always got vaginal sex.
With maybe 100 escorts I got vaginal maybe 5 times, and only when the lady suggested it.
When in Rome, do as the Romans. When in Japan, do as the Japanese. Enjoy a good handjob, blowjob, nuru massage, or maybe anal.
I recently tried Akane from Tokyo Style.
This is her: https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Akane.
Pictures don't seem to be edited much at all.
You can't see her face, but let's say she is VERY Japanese. This is what I imagine when I think "Asian woman. " Not the chubby tattooed ones you see so much now.
Petite, perky tits, cute little buns in her lingerie.
She spoke fluent English which made it really easy.
I was surprised by how shy she was. It made me wonder how it would go. But once she showered me I was in for a great massage.
She finished up with a BBBJ. Pretty good technique with lots of tongue.
Took a look at the website and got to say it looks legit due to the parallels with THC and the fact that THC used to run Paradise in Kawasaki pre-COVID. The whole vibe and layout of the website just screams it's the same group. I've always been a THC fan and went to Paradise twice and adored it. Think is could be the real deal. And Kawasaki is super easy to get to on the subway. Good find!
Oh and also the THC staff were usually Pinay (Philippine) which means excellent English and another tell that is prob associated with THC or former employees thereof.Trust me you can't go wrong going there. What actually sold me was I was looking at one of the providers profiles and saw that she has an X account. So I clicked to see if I could get a few better view pics. Followed provider and lo and behold got a DM back from her. Not the typical 3rd party. So that convinced me to go. I got a few "non work" photos of her and when I got there and met face to face, the language ability and the written ability pretty much matched so I know it wasn't someone else trolling to get me to go there. Bottom Line, made another trip the next day!
Plenty of good looking providers and they are set up for us gaijin types.
Kept hearing about this place, so I made a daytime trip. Let me say it was worth the wait! Very clean place, and as it says geared towards the non Japanese customer. Prices were reasonable, and the talent was spot on. One thing I did find interesting was that the front desk ladies were Pinay, but all the providers were Japanese. Everything is on the table there. Of course it says "soapie" but trust me, you get more than a bath there! Follow the link: https://gfe-japan.net/.
Safe Hunting!I have read other posts where there is an uncharged for FS or AF. I know FS is not advertised as it is illegal but AF is permitted. Is the price listed on there site all inclusive?
I have read other posts where there is an uncharged for FS or AF. I know FS is not advertised as it is illegal but AF is permitted. Is the price listed on there site all inclusive?It's a soapland so price is all inclusive the only options are cosplay and threesomes. Soaplands won't say anything sexual because weridly unlike delivery health. They aren't listed as adults services. But they just happen to have a beautiful Japanese girls as bath attendants who are willing to bath you. That's why you won't see any sexual listed options. Because soapland are not an adult service. That being said just go there and enjoy don't ask for anything don't over think it just shut up and let it happen. You want to pick 90 minutes or longer it's the best course.
In some circles GFE doesn't have a good rep but truthfully that's because they treat there girls like crap but there customers like gold. They are slightly higher in price than some Japanese soaplands but with he quality and service it's balances out. They have had like three girls have very dangerous encounters with customers and they backed the customers not the girl.
They also do some underhanded business practices with other foreign friendly shops. They pretend to be customers and then cancel and did other random stuff. Basically giving foreigners a bad name and the shops stop accepting them.
All that being said with the soapland you will have a good experience. There girls will treat you right they get bonuses for being the most requested and the best reviewed girls. So they put a lot of effort into it.
Hello can someone guide me, where can I get raw (no condom) fucking in Tokyo. I know the risks but I want to try. Does amateurtokyo allows to do it?
I also found out that vaginal sex is not included when you book the girl.If you want to fuck raw in Japan you need to play in Japanese and search the Japanese review sites. Many girls in Japan go raw, but it's usually a bit more expensive. The Japanese review sites also discuss which girls go raw.
There are code words for this which you can find on the Japanese review sites.
If you want to fuck raw in Japan you need to play in Japanese and search the Japanese review sites. Many girls in Japan go raw, but it's usually a bit more expensive. The Japanese review sites also discuss which girls go raw.
There are code words for this which you can find on the Japanese review sites.What he says is true but with one major issue. Japanese language barrier most of those shops are not foreigner friend and you need to be able to speak Japanese on the phone to make or confirm the appointment. Plus the girl has to be comfortable accepting foreigner. Some of the sites already mentioned here have girls that will go raw. The only thing is they will more than likely not do it the first time meeting you. They reserve it for repeat and or special customers. Though if the price is right all bets are off.
Traveler X
08-05-24, 09:49
I don't know the exact reason I do know some places have started banning Chinese and indian customers due to issues. They don't publicize it but I know quiet a few working girls who won't see guys from those countries.I assume that to be the case, if certain girls have had bad experiences and want to exclude a country. I have been to soaplands where only some of the girls would accept foreigners of any kind. Rules vary by shop.
In my experience, the shops only cared what country I was from. When I said USA and got the okay, they gave me an English rule sheet. I saw they had Chinese and Korean too. To answer OP's question, they would not and could not assume your race for saying USA. Some places will not accept black customers as well. It is common in the US, black being the most common restriction followed by Indian. Mainly for rough play or worse. So even though they only told the girl my nationality, I'm sure there are hidden restrictions besides that.
There is sometimes a size compatibility issue if you are magnum sized or bigger. But most girls can figure something out.
Traveler X
08-05-24, 10:02
Girls holding signs work for kyabakura ("cabaret clubs") which are effectively hostess bars. You pay by the hour and typically get nomihoudai (all you can drink). They'll talk to you, hold you arm, sing karaoke, etc. But for all intents and purposes it is not really sex work. That being said, I dated a couple kyabajo -- they will see you outside of work if they really like you.
Do not go to kyabakura if you don't speak Japanese because you won't have a good time. The doorman will usually ask if you speak Japanese and politely turn you away if you do not. I suggest visiting one of the international girls' bars if you like this kind of thing, usually a mix of Japanese and Filipina girls.I agree on kyabakura as far as language. When I could barely speak Japanese, I could get into some oppai pubs and full play (but not FS) places. But not kyabakura. Now that I can speak well, looking back it wouldn't have been fun.
Most of the girls holding up signs are for girl's bars, maid cafes, or some variation of it. More casual than kyabakura. Some areas have non-Japanese girls and I would not trust them since scams are a risk there. With legit Japanese-run establishments you can even see the IG for some of them, some are kind of cool small but owned and run by the girls themselves (this is not the norm). There's all kinds whether girls rotate or where it's just a small shop with 2-3 girls as the bartenders with no rotation - they stop by and check on you but on the plus side they don't ask you to buy them a drink.
I don't think it is what most guys are interested in since it is pretty tame, but I did go to one long ago in Osaka where it was very casual and the girls were nice. It's just to chat, a few have very cute girls and it was fun even with middling Japanese skills. I would say the one advantage is if you click with a particular girl, you can start with her. Once the shops get filled and the girls start working, they are no longer holding up signs outside of course. It was worth doing out of curiosity, but not a main attraction.
Again, beware of non-Japanese establishments.
I assume that to be the case, if certain girls have had bad experiences and want to exclude a country. I have been to soaplands where only some of the girls would accept foreigners of any kind. Rules vary by shop.
In my experience, the shops only cared what country I was from. When I said USA and got the okay, they gave me an English rule sheet. I saw they had Chinese and Korean too. To answer OP's question, they would not and could not assume your race for saying USA. Some places will not accept black customers as well. It is common in the US, black being the most common restriction followed by Indian. Mainly for rough play or worse. So even though they only told the girl my nationality, I'm sure there are hidden restrictions besides that.
There is sometimes a size compatibility issue if you are magnum sized or bigger. But most girls can figure something out.The black thing isn't as big of an issue any more. Still crops up but I have never been denied service. Someone else said it first not me but indians have been blocked by many services. One for being aggressive and not respecting the girl and two for hygiene issues. One girl told me he came to a soapland and refused to take a shower or bath just wanted business done. Same soapland the multiple indians have put girls into dangerous situations that got them banned from the shop. Not that they cared because they were just visiting. So many girls who see foreigners won't see them. The sad part is the shop in questions doesn't really do anything to protect the girls. So at that shop the girls can't even refuse indian customers.
Traveler X
08-05-24, 20:03
The black thing isn't as big of an issue any more. Still crops up but I have never been denied service. Someone else said it first not me but indians have been blocked by many services. One for being aggressive and not respecting the girl and two for hygiene issues. One girl told me he came to a soapland and refused to take a shower or bath just wanted business done. Same soapland the multiple indians have put girls into dangerous situations that got them banned from the shop. Not that they cared because they were just visiting. So many girls who see foreigners won't see them. The sad part is the shop in questions doesn't really do anything to protect the girls. So at that shop the girls can't even refuse indian customers.Right, often the first two rules are you must wash and you can't verbally or physically abuse the girl. I've never heard the same anecdote twice about Indians but they include: roughly sticking their finger deep into the girl's anus without asking, bad hygene where the girl would only allow doggy due to the smell, and trying to run off without paying (incall service). But the place I use does allow Indians (I pass by them as they leave), these are just what girls say were their experiences. As you say, it doesn't help that they don't seem to care about rules or the law being from abroad. There are certainly good Indian customers. I think the problem is back in India people simply abuse SWs without problems.
Glad to hear they're not banning blacks as much, I see more customers these days too but figured it was still an issue.
Right, often the first two rules are you must wash and you can't verbally or physically abuse the girl. I've never heard the same anecdote twice about Indians but they include: roughly sticking their finger deep into the girl's anus without asking, bad hygene where the girl would only allow doggy due to the smell, and trying to run off without paying (incall service). But the place I use does allow Indians (I pass by them as they leave), these are just what girls say were their experiences. As you say, it doesn't help that they don't seem to care about rules or the law being from abroad. There are certainly good Indian customers. I think the problem is back in India people simply abuse SWs without problems.
Glad to hear they're not banning blacks as much, I see more customers these days too but figured it was still an issue.Yeah most of the foreigner friendly places or places that cater exclusively to foreigners don't allow girls to enforce the first two rules. Girl I am friends with works at one I keep trying to get her to quit and go to another shop. But she makes way to much money even with the danger and lack of protection from the shop.
I have read other posts where there is an uncharged for FS or AF. I know FS is not advertised as it is illegal but AF is permitted. Is the price listed on there site all inclusive?It's up to the provider. I got FS there on my first visit. So if she is into you, it can happen. No extra fee for that either.
Hi everyone,
I recently moved to Japan longer term and looking to explore the night life more. I tried last year Tokyo Hentai Club twice. The experience was good, both girls were very clean, good-looking ladies and overall an amazing company. One of them is still engraved in my memory and I'm thinking at times of visiting her again.
However, I'm still a younger guy and eager to explore, not settling for one option.
Recently I've been to Shinjiku and noticed there are lots of people offering stuff on the streets. I found out they say basically anything is on the table: just talking to a girl - 3000 yen, talking and touching - 8000, sex - 15,000. Others offered a massage for 3000. I like spontaneous experiences much more than pre-arranged ones. Researching the best operation ahead of time, booking a girl in advance. All fine and great but will not compare with a spontaneous decision to follow a stranger while drunk after clubbing.
However, I know there must be a lot of scam in those offers. Like I keep seeing the advice not to engage with the african people who offer such stuff. But I also saw some Japanese people speaking to me about it. And, there are those rows of dressed-up girls just standing along the street advertising something like girl bars, for a similar price?
At this point I'm looking to just get my toes wet, and have an hour-long experience just talking to a girl with possibility to touch, possibly in an intimate setting where it's just the two of us.
Soooo, I'm a bit lost. Basically my questions:
1) Are those prices I quoted realistic? E. g. If I just want to speak to a girl touching her for an hour, is 8000 legit, or will she rip me off for drinks for a load of money?
2) I know sex is illegal to sell in Japan, and e. G. "legit" brands like THC officially say they don't do it, but unofficially you can talk to the girls about it. I know also at THC the prices are MUCH higher than 15 k, like, if you want sex, it would be upward of 35 k in total. So, is what's the deal with the 15 k offer from a street guy?
3) How do I know a scam from not-a-scam? My guess is the african people must be scam, but the Japanese wouldn't be, what do you think?
Hi everyone,
I recently moved to Japan longer term and looking to explore the night life more. I tried last year Tokyo Hentai Club twice. The experience was good, both girls were very clean, good-looking ladies and overall an amazing company. One of them is still engraved in my memory and I'm thinking at times of visiting her again.
However, I'm still a younger guy and eager to explore, not settling for one option.
Recently I've been to Shinjiku and noticed there are lots of people offering stuff on the streets. I found out they say basically anything is on the table: just talking to a girl - 3000 yen, talking and touching - 8000, sex - 15,000. Others offered a massage for 3000. I like spontaneous experiences much more than pre-arranged ones. Researching the best operation ahead of time, booking a girl in advance. All fine and great but will not compare with a spontaneous decision to follow a stranger while drunk after clubbing.
However, I know there must be a lot of scam in those offers. Like I keep seeing the advice not to engage with the african people who offer such stuff. But I also saw some Japanese people speaking to me about it. And, there are those rows of dressed-up girls just standing along the street advertising something like girl bars, for a similar price?
At this point I'm looking to just get my toes wet, and have an hour-long experience just talking to a girl with possibility to touch, possibly in an intimate setting where it's just the two of us.
Soooo, I'm a bit lost. Basically my questions:
1) Are those prices I quoted realistic? E. g. If I just want to speak to a girl touching her for an hour, is 8000 legit, or will she rip me off for drinks for a load of money?
2) I know sex is illegal to sell in Japan, and e. G. "legit" brands like THC officially say they don't do it, but unofficially you can talk to the girls about it. I know also at THC the prices are MUCH higher than 15 k, like, if you want sex, it would be upward of 35 k in total. So, is what's the deal with the 15 k offer from a street guy?
3) How do I know a scam from not-a-scam? My guess is the african people must be scam, but the Japanese wouldn't be, what do you think?Honestly no idea how tell what's a scam besides the fact. If they are approaching you on the street as a foreigner it's either a scam or illegal as hell period. The good news is they don't run prostitution stings here like they do in the US. The person your talking to won't be a cop. There version of sting is to watch everything happen then come in stop you and question you. Keep in mind they can detain you for up to 25 days to question you if they want. Sure the likelyhood is low but the possibility is there.
Though I would also say the likelyhood of a street hawkers that approached you first being illegal is low. It's more if you approached them first. The ones that approach you are going off the fact your foreignor and know sex work is legal. So they promise you everything get you into a shady little place. Give you a handjob at most kick you on your way. What are you going to do call the police. Hell if you create an issue the shop itself will call the police. Cause your the one complaining about not getting an illegal service. Of course the shop would never do that. Guess what the speak Japanese you don't and your in a red light area. Your going to lose that argument 9 times out of 10.
Just remember this sex work as a whole is legal. To many foreigners have tried to do things they do in other places thinking they can get away with it. They get rough or aggressive, they make the girl do something she didn't want to do, they try and record it without paying, they take the girls money and run away while the girls in the bathroom. The shops will call the police and the love hotel or hotel will give up the video tapes the day off. Know of a least 5 services members pending legal actions for trying similar things with working girls thinking they wouldn't be reported guess what they got reported career ruined.
Below is a link that lists a bunch of shops that allow foreigners give it a try.
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/
Traveler X
08-10-24, 02:03
1) Are those prices I quoted realistic? E. g. If I just want to speak to a girl touching her for an hour, is 8000 legit, or will she rip me off for drinks for a load of money?
2) I know sex is illegal to sell in Japan, and e. G. "legit" brands like THC officially say they don't do it, but unofficially you can talk to the girls about it. I know also at THC the prices are MUCH higher than 15 k, like, if you want sex, it would be upward of 35 k in total. So, is what's the deal with the 15 k offer from a street guy?
3) How do I know a scam from not-a-scam? My guess is the african people must be scam, but the Japanese wouldn't be, what do you think?If it's a scam, it's going to be at a scam bar worst case. You can just go to a legit foreigner-friendly places like Luxe:
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/
It is 6000 yen to 8000 yen (depends on hour of the day) for their promo rate. I don't deal with the Nigerian touts but any tout could take you there if you absolutely insist on it. They get paid a finder's fee from Luxe, it's all open and honest there. Luxe is a "touch girls all you want" club (kissing and boobs okay but don't touch a girl's privates) and at least has Japanese girls. Many of the staff at Luxe are native English speakers who have clearly lived many years in the US. Search this forum about the club. It is pretty good for a club that caters to foreigners.
There are "24 hour information shops" all over Shinjuku and you see the "18 years and up only" curtains in front of them. Just walk in and ask for any place that is "English ok". Manzoku is what Japanese use, but there is one I can't remember the name of the shop that is English staff. Plastered on the walls are all the top clubs mostly oppai pubs and hostess bars or fetish clubs. But you won't find FS or delivery clubs, which is what you seem to be curious about. However you did say you want an adventure so you will definitely find something you can't find elsewhere.
If you mean all the girls standing in a row holding up signs, you probably mean this:
https://youtu.be/zK-fGht1QEI?t=333
You wouldn't be interested unless you speak enough Japanese to enjoy it. I mean go ahead if you find a girl your type I guess but there is some minimum of language needed to have fun.
For FS, don't rely on touts and research online before you go. I'd give this same advice even to 100% Japanese customers. Don't rely on touts for fs, it just sucks. I mean, I tried a dozen times and every place they took me to sucked. Zero of the places they took me were Japanese. Believe me, they sucked - the girls were ugly foreign girls and that's not half of it.
What's amazing is considering every place I found myself or through Manzoku was amazingly good. Really says something about the Shinjuku tout's (nigerian / chinese) business plan. Ripping off foreigners.
I did not have this issue with touts in other cities, just Tokyo.
Juniper1111
08-11-24, 17:56
If it's a scam, it's going to be at a scam bar worst case. You can just go to a legit foreigner-friendly places like Luxe:
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/
I will be visiting Japan soon and I was hoping to get some more information.
I have read the forums and luxe seems to be the only option for English friendly oppai bar. So, I had a few questions:
1. How safe is it in terms of hygiene of girls there at luxe? Do they clean up after every customer?
2. Are these bars safe in terms of STDs? I do understand that kissing has lower probability but since it is there, I wanted to know how prevalent it is. Or what the risks are?
3. Are there any other places apart from luxe? Which are good and safe?
Thanks!
Found this on my Twitter feed there are many sites like it. They take pictures of working girls and there customers and post it on twitter. Sometimes the people don't even know they have been photographed.
Traveler X
08-12-24, 04:29
I will be visiting Japan soon and I was hoping to get some more information.
I have read the forums and luxe seems to be the only option for English friendly oppai bar. So, I had a few questions:
1. How safe is it in terms of hygiene of girls there at luxe? Do they clean up after every customer?
2. Are these bars safe in terms of STDs? I do understand that kissing has lower probability but since it is there, I wanted to know how prevalent it is. Or what the risks are?
3. Are there any other places apart from luxe? Which are good and safe?
Thanks!The girls clean after each customer but it is up to your level of comfort. A fast food version of US strip clubs where you might do the same.
Kissing limits things. Some are lfk while a few are dfk. You ask about the risks and while I'd say the risks are low I will list them. Most people in the US already have oral herpes (50 to 80) but if you haven't kissed girls much this might be your first exposure. Those cause cold sores in the mouth, it is so common not worth mentioning. Not to be confused with genital herpes which is more associated with fs. Then there is also some strains of HPV which there is a vaccine for. Kissing has a pretty short list of stds compared to fs. I have never had any issues, only problem was when trying FS places. Again it is up to your level of comfort.
So I am only speaking of Shinjuku. The Manzoku staff which is a 3rd party service said Luxe were the only openly foreigner friendly oppai pub in that area. But implicitly they mean Japanese-run with Japanese girls. The customers were majority foreigner so the girls know a little English or at least how to roll with it. The staff speak English and are expecting their share of foreign customers.
Shinjuku has the most oppai pubs in Japan as far as I'm aware. Other cities and parts of Tokyo have them, some only one. It is funny that in Japan, certain cities specialize in certain clubs or have a lot of one type. It is very regional.
I agree on kyabakura as far as language. When I could barely speak Japanese, I could get into some oppai pubs and full play (but not FS) places. But not kyabakura. Now that I can speak well, looking back it wouldn't have been fun.
Most of the girls holding up signs are for girl's bars, maid cafes, or some variation of it. More casual than kyabakura. Some areas have non-Japanese girls and I would not trust them since scams are a risk there. With legit Japanese-run establishments you can even see the IG for some of them, some are kind of cool small but owned and run by the girls themselves (this is not the norm). There's all kinds whether girls rotate or where it's just a small shop with 2-3 girls as the bartenders with no rotation - they stop by and check on you but on the plus side they don't ask you to buy them a drink.
I don't think it is what most guys are interested in since it is pretty tame, but I did go to one long ago in Osaka where it was very casual and the girls were nice. It's just to chat, a few have very cute girls and it was fun even with middling Japanese skills. I would say the one advantage is if you click with a particular girl, you can start with her. Once the shops get filled and the girls start working, they are no longer holding up signs outside of course. It was worth doing out of curiosity, but not a main attraction.
Again, beware of non-Japanese establishments.I am more sympathetic towards non-Japanese-run establishments than most, perhaps because I work with a lot of foreign nationals (chiefly Filipinos, Africans) around Kabukicho. I think these girls bars are a great option for those who don't speak a lick of Japanese. There is certainly a higher degree of caution that must be taken. Don't use your credit card. Don't follow random African touts if it can be helped. Don't stick around if nobody's in the bar, or if things feel off.
If anyone's interested I can give a few examples of international kyabakura that are safe and worth your time.
Juniper1111
08-12-24, 08:24
The girls clean after each customer but it is up to your level of comfort. A fast food version of US strip clubs where you might do the same.
Kissing limits things. Some are lfk while a few are dfk. You ask about the risks and while I'd say the risks are low I will list them. Most people in the US already have oral herpes (50 to 80) but if you haven't kissed girls much this might be your first exposure. Those cause cold sores in the mouth, it is so common not worth mentioning. Not to be confused with genital herpes which is more associated with fs. Then there is also some strains of HPV which there is a vaccine for. Kissing has a pretty short list of stds compared to fs. I have never had any issues, only problem was when trying FS places. Again it is up to your level of comfort.
So I am only speaking of Shinjuku. The Manzoku staff which is a 3rd party service said Luxe were the only openly foreigner friendly oppai pub in that area. But implicitly they mean Japanese-run with Japanese girls. The customers were majority foreigner so the girls know a little English or at least how to roll with it. The staff speak English and are expecting their share of foreign customers.
Shinjuku has the most oppai pubs in Japan as far as I'm aware. Other cities and parts of Tokyo have them, some only one. It is funny that in Japan, certain cities specialize in certain clubs or have a lot of one type. It is very regional.Thank you for the detailed response. I will consider this before taking a decision.
NRandom940
08-13-24, 08:38
Day 1: I went to the incall location of http://amateurtokyo.com/. They had only 2 girls for me to choose from at around noon. The girl was heavier than her pictures. If I would have been choosing in person, I would have declined everything. The total cost for 50 minutes (including a short time hotel room next door) was 25,500 yen (about $172 usd). This price is too high for what it's worth to me, with girls you can't see before buying and BJ only.
Day 2: Went to Kira Kira soapland in a Yokohama. I know there's a separate Yokohama forum, but it's close enough to Tokyo so I hope it's okay to post it here. I went there just after 1 pm. They showed me photos of 3 girls that I could choose from. I didn't like any of them so I asked if I could pick a girl from the website and make a reservation for later. They said yes. I picked a girl and they told me she doesn't accept non-Japanese speakers. Then they brought me photos of the girls I could make reservations with. Luckily, one of them was to my taste, then I had to wait until 2:30 p to meet her. It was cool sliding around on the inflatable mattress and getting all soapy and slippery. But on the other hand it kind of wastes a lot of time. It made me think of a time I was in Sao Paolo Brazil and the girls were wasting too much time in the shower so my 30 minutes ended up being only 15 and I felt scammed. It felt like she was trying to rush the sex once we got to it. And when I didn't finish quickly through either sex, oral, or hand. Then she asked me to finish myself with my hand. So I finished myself 99% then let her take over for the last 1% when I finished with her handjob. The cost was 31000 yen, but they said if I visit 8 times I become a member then it becomes 15000 yen (for 70 minutes). Overall, I'd say it was OK. That goopy soap they use for sliding around on the mattress makes for some interesting sex lubricant.
Traveler X
08-13-24, 18:14
I am more sympathetic towards non-Japanese-run establishments than most, perhaps because I work with a lot of foreign nationals (chiefly Filipinos, Africans) around Kabukicho. I think these girls bars are a great option for those who don't speak a lick of Japanese. There is certainly a higher degree of caution that must be taken. Don't use your credit card. Don't follow random African touts if it can be helped. Don't stick around if nobody's in the bar, or if things feel off.
If anyone's interested I can give a few examples of international kyabakura that are safe and worth your time.Yes there are certainly good non-Japanese establishments. But not always easy for a newer tourist to know which to go to, and as you say there is some risk. Both news and the US consulate warn in particular of underground Kabukicho bars recommended by touts, and lately even downtown Yokohama bars. It is just a few shady bars a tout might take you to but that is the risk.
To give one example of what the term underground bar means. In one case when someone was drugged and overcharged / robbed at a bar, they were the only customer. He filed a police report and when the police went to the bar, it was completely emptied and gone. It is no surprise that the bar would be near empty if drugging was going on. And emptying the bar when not scamming just shows that's all the bar exists for and even the bar owner is involved - this was no mistake or one-off at their bar. But other scams involve over-charging with a low entry fee but a higher "2nd hour" fee, including where girls invite guys and dash to leave them with the whole bill. All kinds of variations of these. This video covers just 2 examples:
https://youtu.be/NeZUOFKOUeI?t=315
I'd even say that when I was in other cities like Nagoya, every tout was legit because they were either a direct shop employee (standing outside on a slow day) or a manzoku employee. Probably on account of Nagoya being not a tourist destination, so downtown caters to locals. Manzoku would not send you to a bad place because they money off repeat visits. I have a 100% success rate going with their recommendation. That is how I found Luxe, Hosekinobako, Leicester, etc. Every shop is clearly advertised on the wall so these are not underground places, they are legit establishments competing to give good service. I've gone to oppai pubs sporadically for 20 years and service is emphasized there just like the rest of Japan.
I have written this already but there was one Chinese run kyabakura that was actually good, and the girls were open to take out. I spoke enough Chinese to have fun. The problem is the Chinese tout took me to 12 places in a row that sucked before finally taking me there, probably because the other places offered bjs and more and probably gave a better finder's fee. It would be pages to write them all out but I would just sum them up by saying they really sucked and the girls were ugly. I am easy to please so I don't say that for nothing. I am sure there are other good non-Japanese bars, I've heard of them, but that is just my experience. If there is a reliable non-Japanese shop I hope we recommend and support them.
I believe you can see an example of a Manzoku shop just left-center of this video with big red letters. I'm not great at kanji but the first two characters are "muryou" as in "free information booth":
https://youtu.be/NeZUOFKOUeI?t=492
If you are shy and not sure, just ask any guy inside if "English ok" or just walk around quietly looking at the signs. Someone there might be able to speak enough. We all start somewhere. They get paid a small finders fee if they connect you to a shop that accepts you, so they will help you if they think they can. Depending on what you want.
King Squared
08-18-24, 23:06
I also visited Amateur Tokyo recently and felt the same. I arrived in the late afternoon and was shown a binder with the system prices. I think locals may get a cheaper price because I noticed that the page I was shown showed prices that were cheaper than on the web site. I had thought I was in the wrong place but then the guy working there showed me another page with the same prices as on the web site. There is no signage outside of the building but the access page on the web site is accurate and the shop is the only thing upstairs. I don't speak any Japanese and I am unsure about the English level of the worker there because he didn't say much. I was shown a handful of girls available and after making my selection was told to pay 27.5 k for 65 minutes: 21 k + 2 k admission +2 k nomination fee + 2. 5 k?. It was unclear what the extra 2. 5 k was for; I think maybe because it was my first time there. I was given a ticket and told to return in 45 minutes.
When I came back, they told me to go to Hotel Top (two buildings down) and the girl came to the room a couple of minutes later. The girl was pleasant enough but did not speak and English. The face on the pictures are a little photoshopped but I would say it is pretty accurate and the age of the girl seemed correct. It was the standard SOP (shower, some play on the bed, BBBJ, another shower).
I did have to pay the hotel 5 k for the room because it was after 5:00 PM (which seems a bit high IMO) so all in I was out 32.5 k for an hour of play. For that amount, it doesn't seem like a good value and if I'm spending that amount I would look at other places next time.
P.S. The guy working at the hotel has a surely attitude and seems like an asshole. I would avoid Hotel Top.
Day 1: I went to the incall location of http://amateurtokyo.com/. They had only 2 girls for me to choose from at around noon. The girl was heavier than her pictures. If I would have been choosing in person, I would have declined everything. The total cost for 50 minutes (including a short time hotel room next door) was 25,500 yen (about $172 usd). This price is too high for what it's worth to me, with girls you can't see before buying and BJ only.
NRandom940
08-18-24, 23:57
I also visited Amateur Tokyo recently and felt the same. I arrived in the late afternoon and was shown a binder with the system prices. I think locals may get a cheaper price because I noticed that the page I was shown showed prices that were cheaper than on the web site. I had thought I was in the wrong place but then the guy working there showed me another page with the same prices as on the web site. There is no signage outside of the building but the access page on the web site is accurate and the shop is the only thing upstairs. I don't speak any Japanese and I am unsure about the English level of the worker there because he didn't say much. I was shown a handful of girls available and after making my selection was told to pay 27.5 k for 65 minutes: 21 k + 2 k admission +2 k nomination fee + 2. 5 k?. It was unclear what the extra 2. 5 k was for; I think maybe because it was my first time there. I was given a ticket and told to return in 45 minutes.
When I came back, they told me to go to Hotel Top (two buildings down) and the girl came to the room a couple of minutes later. The girl was pleasant enough but did not speak and English. The face on the pictures are a little photoshopped but I would say it is pretty accurate and the age of the girl seemed correct. It was the standard SOP (shower, some play on the bed, BBBJ, another shower).
I did have to pay the hotel 5 k for the room because it was after 5:00 PM (which seems a bit high IMO) so all in I was out 32.5 k for an hour of play. For that amount, it doesn't seem like a good value and if I'm spending that amount I would look at other places next time.
P.S. The guy working at the hotel has a surely attitude and seems like an asshole. I would avoid Hotel Top.Are you experienced in Tokyo? What do you think is the best value? It's always disappointing when FS isn't on the menu.
Have you (or anyone else here) tried sites like this one.
https://www.milf-escort-tokyo.jp/girls_list.html
Is it a high probability that if I pay for anal as extra service that it will end up being FS (vaginal)?
From reading USA Sex Guide and other sources on t seems that there's an influx of Japanese women escorting in the USA, especially in New York City. So it seems it has become easier to be services by Japanese women in NYC than in Japan, at a similar cost. Right or wrong?
From reading USA Sex Guide and other sources on t seems that there's an influx of Japanese women escorting in the USA, especially in New York City. So it seems it has become easier to be services by Japanese women in NYC than in Japan, at a similar cost. Right or wrong?It's actually not really a similar cost. The girls I have seen in NYC where charging like 400 500 bucks an hour the cheapest was 300 an hour. In Japan I can 2 hours unlimited pops for the cheaper price or those prices. For 500 US I can get like 4 hours in Japan. The reason most are going is because they know they can make way more there than in Japan. I can get just a BJ in Japan for as cheap as 40 bucks.
Traveler X
08-20-24, 13:32
From reading USA Sex Guide and other sources on t seems that there's an influx of Japanese women escorting in the USA, especially in New York City. So it seems it has become easier to be services by Japanese women in NYC than in Japan, at a similar cost. Right or wrong?Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.
The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to.
Whether looks or service, the very worst jgirl I had in the US was still better than the average Japan FS girl. Which is to say she was way younger, way cuter, and sucked and fucked way better. I have hours of video but no I'm never going to post them just to win some internet contest. You just do whatever you want and give your own opinion after, how about that.
I will say many of the fs jgirls in the US were more attractive than many jgirls even in oppai pubs. If we compare the average, the average is slightly higher for US jgirls. As someone who has gone to oppai pubs a ridiculous number of times over 20 years, I can say that.
Of course I have to point out every time I say jgirl I am referring to OP's question of jgirls who fly from Japan to work in the US. I am not talking about some Japanese American independent girl or someone who happens to be Japanese in the US. You can find Japanese milfs, it's not common but they exist. No, I am answering OP's specific question about touring jgirls. Emphasis on touring.
In the US, the average rate I paid was 330 for 60 minutes across 8 girls. Video is 200, bb is 100. Yes in New York the corgs have some exclusive pricing where a girl can be 400 or 500 but that is usually literally a few days before it drops towards 350. It is the early simp price, or some people joke the stretch her out first price. Almost no one pays that. At least I can't remember anyone paying 500 out of the last pages of reviews.
The corgs and korgs do not allow any girl to last even a few days if she doesn't perform to standard. I have seen girls get cut and sent off on their very first day. If she didn't get cut it is too late because word is out among us. My personal experience is If I am one of the first couple of customers I get texted after by booker asking if they should keep a girl or not (I have always said yes but others do not and the girl gets cut). It's brutal. Most girls are above an 8 out of 10 on T** (I guess that site is censored here?), under a 7 will get you cut. I'll be completely honest most FS girls in Japan would barely get a 5 to 7 due to the service gap. I have tried well over a hundred girls in both countries but go ahead and share your own comparison if you have it. Just talking averages here. I'm not even going to compare the looks which is a way bigger gap.
The reason jgirls in the US perform way better is they are competing against kgirls and they have to perform the full menu or don't even bother coming to the US. Shower preview, DFK, proper cock worship, MSOG. In Japan they even have charts showing which girls do what. Cool. Jgirls in the US do not get those charts, they are expected to do everything kgirls do with some leniency if they are super cute. Which is exactly why most of the girls who come end up being very cute and young in a roundabout way. If a jgirl (or even a young enough kgirl) misses a menu item like a proper shower preview on demand, we cut them slack if they're cute and suck our dick well. Otherwise they get cut. Word spreads fast it is not just USAG that is all I'll say.
Jgirls come because corgs and korgs will book them 8-12 appointments a day, and the percentage cut is way more than Japanese shops. I LINE my second favorite girl and asked why she doesn't just work at a shop in Japan. She said it doesn't make enough money. It's less than a third and closer to a fourth. I know how much she made in the US but won't say for safety. It is ridiculous. It checked out when I calculated an estimate (I know some kgirls' take and jgirls make more because of how they tour and offering video for 200). They are not just coming to the US BTW, it's a lot of countries. None of the top girls work in Japan at all. No point in trying, I see my favorite girl post updates and it is all of her having fun all summer. It is wild. I will admit I then jerk off to her videos. Everybody does.
My comparison does not even account for the fact that jgirls in the US are 100% foreigner friendly, not to mention extra options like bb and video should you choose. Or that you aren't even guarateed FS in delivery and it usually adds a tip. To state the obvious, while I can get service in Japan because I speak Japanese, obviously most American's have many hurdles not just language when visiting. I did have a good time in Japan with some weird options I can't try in the US. It just is not in the same league. I think I only try it out of curiosity alone while I happen to be in Japan. I basically have unlimited funds.
Where Japan really shines is everything besides FS. Dirt cheap and legal As David says, bjs are a steal in Japan. The best value anywhere in my opinion. You could go cheaper if you are willing to compromise a little. =) Amazingly, certain bj and hj bars do have very cute girls. See my post about them earlier.
Oppai pubs and some of the better hj/bj bars do have some cute girls, better than typical fs girls. Everybody knows this, no contest. I have often chatted with the Manzoku staff before and after for fun and Japanese customers make that comparison all the time. Even I'm tired of hearing it. The staff asks if they'd rather go delivery or soap and the Japanese customer says they're just going to get another baba (grandma but it's hyperbole of course) there. Baba bakkari another person said. I've seen the reverse where the Japanese customer asks the staff about FS and the staff first asks if they're okay with expecting slightly older women, the guy says nah and so the staff this time says yeah FS is baba anyways right. Not saying all delivery are like this but this is a bit of Japanese humor to exaggerate the reality. Many years ago when I went to Yoshiwara as I've told, I went with a friend. We poked our heads in many shops and my friend who is Japanese asks if the girls are "really 22" as advertised (they are fucking not BTW 22 could mean 25-35). And the staff guy gets super defensive and a bit pissed, he said - I still remember this vividly - "What (the fuck) did you expect? Morning Musume?" I added the fuck because his rude way of talking was basically saying that. His rudeness gives away the reality, he simply admitted it. That is how laughable the claim you find cute girls in soapland is - even the staff can't say it with a straight face. Hope that clears things up.
There are a few super high end soaps that promise this or that. I'm sure the girls are better looking, better service, or JAV stars. Cool. But at that point we are well past US prices.
Look, let's be real. The cutest girls don't do fs in Japan, or they fly to the US and get paid for being cute for fs (they won't in Japan). Maybe you or I can find a cute young girl in delivery health a few times. Sure. That is not the norm. I've talked to too many guys who got that reality check. I don't like hearing about people wasting money. If you are curious though and Japan is closer than the US, then cool. By all means you will have fun in Japan.
Cherry picking our best experiences doesn't count. So what I've done is compare my two worst jgirls. I'll post their public ad photos they used below. They both had decent skill and could both take a pounding, many positions, a long time. That's them with extra make up on (they don't do full make up for FS or it would get all over you). The girls don't look as good without make up but were still cute. Just not as cute as the other 6, 2 of whom were simply beautiful.
Can we now just stick to Tokyo threads here? I hope people have their question answered now. Ask US questions in the US forum. That's what I do.
Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.
The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to.
Whether looks or service, the very worst jgirl I had in the US was still better than the average Japan FS girl. Which is to say she was way younger, way cuter, and sucked and fucked way better. I have hours of video but no I'm never going to post them just to win some internet contest. You just do whatever you want and give your own opinion after, how about that.
I will say many of the fs jgirls in the US were more attractive than many jgirls even in oppai pubs. If we compare the average, the average is slightly higher for US jgirls. As someone who has gone to oppai pubs a ridiculous number of times over 20 years, I can say that.
Of course I have to point out every time I say jgirl I am referring to OP's question of jgirls who fly from Japan to work in the US. I am not talking about some Japanese American independent girl or someone who happens to be Japanese in the US. You can find Japanese milfs, it's not common but they exist. No, I am answering OP's specific question about touring jgirls. Emphasis on touring.
In the US, the average rate I paid was 330 for 60 minutes across 8 girls. Video is 200, bb is 100. Yes in New York the corgs have some exclusive pricing where a girl can be 400 or 500 but that is usually literally a few days before it drops towards 350. It is the early simp price, or some people joke the stretch her out first price. Almost no one pays that. At least I can't remember anyone paying 500 out of the last pages of reviews.
The corgs and korgs do not allow any girl to last even a few days if she doesn't perform to standard. I have seen girls get cut and sent off on their very first day. If she didn't get cut it is too late because word is out among us. My personal experience is If I am one of the first couple of customers I get texted after by booker asking if they should keep a girl or not (I have always said yes but others do not and the girl gets cut). It's brutal. Most girls are above an 8 out of 10 on T** (I guess that site is censored here?), under a 7 will get you cut. I'll be completely honest most FS girls in Japan would barely get a 5 to 7 due to the service gap. I have tried well over a hundred girls in both countries but go ahead and share your own comparison if you have it. Just talking averages here. I'm not even going to compare the looks which is a way bigger gap.
The reason jgirls in the US perform way better is they are competing against kgirls and they have to perform the full menu or don't even bother coming to the US. Shower preview, DFK, proper cock worship, MSOG. In Japan they even have charts showing which girls do what. Cool. Jgirls in the US do not get those charts, they are expected to do everything kgirls do with some leniency if they are super cute. Which is exactly why most of the girls who come end up being very cute and young in a roundabout way. If a jgirl (or even a young enough kgirl) misses a menu item like a proper shower preview on demand, we cut them slack if they're cute and suck our dick well. Otherwise they get cut. Word spreads fast it is not just USAG that is all I'll say.
Jgirls come because corgs and korgs will book them 8-12 appointments a day, and the percentage cut is way more than Japanese shops. I LINE my second favorite girl and asked why she doesn't just work at a shop in Japan. She said it doesn't make enough money. It's less than a third and closer to a fourth. I know how much she made in the US but won't say for safety. It is ridiculous. It checked out when I calculated an estimate (I know some kgirls' take and jgirls make more because of how they tour and offering video for 200). They are not just coming to the US BTW, it's a lot of countries. None of the top girls work in Japan at all. No point in trying, I see my favorite girl post updates and it is all of her having fun all summer. It is wild. I will admit I then jerk off to her videos. Everybody does.
My comparison does not even account for the fact that jgirls in the US are 100% foreigner friendly, not to mention extra options like bb and video should you choose. Or that you aren't even guarateed FS in delivery and it usually adds a tip. To state the obvious, while I can get service in Japan because I speak Japanese, obviously most American's have many hurdles not just language when visiting. I did have a good time in Japan with some weird options I can't try in the US. It just is not in the same league. I think I only try it out of curiosity alone while I happen to be in Japan. I basically have unlimited funds.
Where Japan really shines is everything besides FS. Dirt cheap and legal As David says, bjs are a steal in Japan. The best value anywhere in my opinion. You could go cheaper if you are willing to compromise a little. =) Amazingly, certain bj and hj bars do have very cute girls. See my post about them earlier.
Oppai pubs and some of the better hj/bj bars do have some cute girls, better than typical fs girls. Everybody knows this, no contest. I have often chatted with the Manzoku staff before and after for fun and Japanese customers make that comparison all the time. Even I'm tired of hearing it. The staff asks if they'd rather go delivery or soap and the Japanese customer says they're just going to get another baba (grandma but it's hyperbole of course) there. Baba bakkari another person said. I've seen the reverse where the Japanese customer asks the staff about FS and the staff first asks if they're okay with expecting slightly older women, the guy says nah and so the staff this time says yeah FS is baba anyways right. Not saying all delivery are like this but this is a bit of Japanese humor to exaggerate the reality. Many years ago when I went to Yoshiwara as I've told, I went with a friend. We poked our heads in many shops and my friend who is Japanese asks if the girls are "really 22" as advertised (they are fucking not BTW 22 could mean 25-35). And the staff guy gets super defensive and a bit pissed, he said - I still remember this vividly - "What (the fuck) did you expect? Morning Musume?" I added the fuck because his rude way of talking was basically saying that. His rudeness gives away the reality, he simply admitted it. That is how laughable the claim you find cute girls in soapland is - even the staff can't say it with a straight face. Hope that clears things up.
There are a few super high end soaps that promise this or that. I'm sure the girls are better looking, better service, or JAV stars. Cool. But at that point we are well past US prices.
Look, let's be real. The cutest girls don't do fs in Japan, or they fly to the US and get paid for being cute for fs (they won't in Japan). Maybe you or I can find a cute young girl in delivery health a few times. Sure. That is not the norm. I've talked to too many guys who got that reality check. I don't like hearing about people wasting money. If you are curious though and Japan is closer than the US, then cool. By all means you will have fun in Japan.
Cherry picking our best experiences doesn't count. So what I've done is compare my two worst jgirls. I'll post their public ad photos they used below. They both had decent skill and could both take a pounding, many positions, a long time. That's them with extra make up on (they don't do full make up for FS or it would get all over you). The girls don't look as good without make up but were still cute. Just not as cute as the other 6, 2 of whom were simply beautiful.
Can we now just stick to Tokyo threads here? I hope people have their question answered now. Ask US questions in the US forum. That's what I do.
He is actually spot with many points but the main point I disagree with is Japanese places do have FS yes the girls don't offer it because that's illegal. But most girls will offer it privately. But then again remember it's business they want repeat customer yaIdon't go to most of the agency's alot of you go to. They foreigner friendly ones tend have the older girl while the Japanese ones have the younger girls. But the Japanese agencies have plenty of girls who offer FS. But the average person on this forum just won't crack that nut. I always get FS so my view is skewed because of it. To me it does cost more in the US and way less in Japan. Also the service is 100 times better here. Truthfully I think it does really come down Ymmv. But the bottom line for me is I won't get arrested for visiting a girl in Japan. I have 4 Japanese girls ready at all times two of which have a standing offer for creampies. So please disregard that FS can not be found in Japan. My prices below.
For 8 girls in Japan.
90 minutes (I never do less) 40000 FS included multiple pops.
Traveler X
08-21-24, 18:59
But the Japanese agencies have plenty of girls who offer FS. But the average person on this forum just won't crack that nut. I always get FS so my view is skewed because of it. To me it does cost more in the US and way less in Japan. Also the service is 100 times better here. Truthfully I think it does really come down Ymmv. But the bottom line for me is I won't get arrested for visiting a girl in Japan. I have 4 Japanese girls ready at all times two of which have a standing offer for creampies. So please disregard that FS can not be found in Japan. My prices below.Yes at delivery and soap anyone can get FS, foreigners included. To be clear this advice is for other people and not you - soap is a bit easier because it's always included. So language barrier solved. No girl is going to ask you for a tip. So as a foreigner even without any Japanese, that's going to be your better bet. With delivery you are going to have to ask and frankly some girls won't even if most do. And most ask for a tip, some girls have straight up said it depends on the guy (they will fuck one guy for free and charge another guy). You may not have had girls refuse FS at delivery, but plenty of Japanese locals have. It is not just a race thing but what the girl thinks of you and there are some girls who really don't do FS. There are some disgusting Japanese customers after all.
So I try to say that the most important questions for guys is your Japanese level, and if you are visiting Japan anyways or actually already coming from the US. As I said, I try to be cautious because I don't like hearing people say it was a waste or they were disappointed in Japan. There is plenty of fun but you have to match it with what you want and have realistic expectations. When I say you are better off going non-FS in Japan if you have options at home, that's just my opinion. Some guys are obsessed with it so go ahead but research back a few pages to get a better picture first.
With a big caveat, I don't agree on the service being better in Japan. I think it's good in Japan, and anyone who has had random FS in the US is not always going to get good service. Anyone who gets FS at a kgirl shop will. It's a lot better than fs in Japan, if you see those charts of sex acts a particular shop girl will do in Japan, most of what girls won't do is not just standard but required at korgs. The charts include bareback blowjob, deep kiss, nipple licking, licking pussy, fingering, (plus some weird shit) etc.. that for some girls are less than half filled out when it is the norm for kgirls. So I can understand people saying "FS in the US is worse" because it sure is. FS at a kgirl shop is superior however. Very few jgirls deep kiss and most don't know how to suck dick is my main complaint, I can overlook everything else honestly. I have seen well over a hundred girls between the two countries, I am not trying to bash Japan, I had lots of fun. I'm not sure there is anyone here besides me who has actually tried enough of both to compare. Please speak up if you had.
So I just do not want people who have actually gone to a korg to come to Japan expecting "100 times better" because they are in for a shock. Lucky if it is even half is good. The only thing that amuses me is getting soaped up like a JAV or harassing a girl in uniform before fs, everything else is half as good. They are going to waste their money even if it's cheaper, when they could have tried something like an oppai pub that doesn't exist back home.
But again, everyone has to give their own take. I think David's experiences are a good example of how far you can get if you just learn the local language. Especially as he says if you pick girls you like to see again. That's a win. I would say a few years of serious study got me in most places, but the more the better.
The original OP's question was about touring jgirls. Not random FS in the US, even with people who happen to be Japanese or Korean for example. Everything I've said are about jgirls at korgs. Jgirls at corgs are one tier down, they are sometimes as good, or not. Corgs hire by looks and will try to book 12+ guys a day. I wouldn't touch them, but locals must love them. The girls get good fast. If jgirls are good enough, they get hired at the korg through that route. My #2 favorite was originally a corg and you can tell from her corg reviews that she didn't know what she was doing (she started at 19 and it was her first time doing sw ever). But after 500 happy cocks she got hired at a korg months later. I don't want to make another long post but New York is a very different situation than LOS Angeles. But we share a few of the same girls.
T** (I think the site is censored here) is a good example. Most random white / latina girls on T** get anywhere from a 3 to a 7. A few excellent outliers exist above 7. Every jgirl in the past 6 months in my area has been 8-9, excepting girls who were kicked no surprise. The kicked girls were a 7 BTW. A kgirl will not last unless she's a 7-9. Of course T** is actually two ratings, looks and service. No surprise the jgirls are always higher on their looks rating and lower on their service rating. Every one. Kgirls are 50-50 which one is higher. Speaks volumes on their gimmick. There is a huge difference between a 7 and an 8 on T** assuming the reviews are legit. The reviews have to be legit once they reach multi-page and I know a lot of the reviewers by name.
So I will then say about the previous poster's original question, it is about the recent trend of touring jgirls. In the last 2-3 years only. When they work for a kgirl shop, their service is superior because they get cut if they don't. That's why I don't even touch a corg, she might be good she might not. No different in Japan actually. I have tried FS at non-Japanese places and it straight up sucks. The worst jgirl I saw in the US was better than the best jgirl I saw in Japan.
At first there were a dozen girls who were former JAV stars. 100% confirmed as the real girls, I literally sent screenshots to reviewers and they confirmed them. Most of the JAV was in the early waves, but there's a lot less now. Because most JAV girls can't cut it and get kicked. But a really young cute girl just might.
Bbowman117
08-23-24, 17:03
SnipThank you for the run down Traveler, thanks to your post (and my experiences last year in Japan and Korea) I'm also lowering my expectations for exceptional FS service in Japan. To keep things on topic, last year when I was in Japan I kept getting harassed by a Chinese lady offering "massages" while walking around Shinjuku. I told her I only wanted a "massage" from an actual Japanese girl. She took me to a love hotel and walked me into a room with a tall Thai / Filipino looking lady, I laughed and walked out. She then kept following me outside while making phone calls in Japanese, she said that a very beautiful Japanese girl was ready and only 5 minutes away. To my surprise a very beautiful Japanese girl showed up 5 minutes later and we agreed on 30 k for an hour of FS. I took her to my hotel where we both showered, I ate her out, she gave me CBJ, and the we fucked for about 15 minutes. There was very little if no kissing, and after I came she was already putting on her clothes and getting ready to leave. I'm definitely not going with street walkers the next time I go to Japan.
I agree that if a Japanese girl really wanted to fuck like American men want (BBBJ DT, DFK, condom-optional, multiple positions, multiple pops per hour) she would just come to America and make a shitload of money at a Korg or Corg. Unfortunately for me I am only verified at Korgs and they never seem to have any J girls working. I am going to get my fill of K pussy before I go to Japan next month and then test my luck at the Oppai bars.
Hi, Newbie here.
Currently in US and planning a short visit to Japan in September. Can speak fluent Japanese but no mongering experience either in Japan or US.
Before moving to Japan, I am tempted to try Japanese girls in the US. I know this is not a question on this forum, but would appreciate any pointers for Chicago area from Traveler X.
Also, what are the best value for money options for someone speaking fluent Japanese in Tokyo area, both for soaps as well as deli health.
I am interested in meeting genuine slender Japanese girls.
Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.
The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to..
CCRider1008
08-25-24, 00:58
I've mongered pretty much all of Asia (SE anyway. Thai, Phil, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bali). Have not been to Japan; I understand the nuisance of the law (no vaginal). I've read the threads.
1. Japan Thread Summary. Bias against foreigner sex, but there are some soaplands and massage places that are friendly. Some agencies to hotel as well. However, whether you can get good ole FS vaginal sex is entirely hit or miss. It is more "no" then "yes". Fucking without a condom pretty rare, even with understanding it will cost more (which is only fair).
Correct?
2. Honest Vote. Understanding this is Tokyo forum and likely a favorable bias to Japan, my question. I have a month in late March / early April.
Choice A. Back to Thailand. Phuket and BKK for entire 4 weeks.
Choice be. 2 weeks Thailand and 2 weeks Japan.
+ Thailand Only. FS and usually BB for me is pretty much given with little issues on past 4 trips (money talks as does some charm and a smile). Nice beaches and I can train muay thai while fucking at night.
- Thailand Only. Been to Thailand 4 times. My favorite place but I've seen it all.
+ Japan. Fascinated with looks of Japanese women and would like to see the place.
- Japan. While I combine tourism and mongering on trips, if I only got BJs and occasionally FS (particularly if always covered) I'd consider it a letdown. Like I said I am willing to pay more.
Recommendations? A or be.
This traveler guy is half right about k-girls in Japan.
But he forgets one thing and it's the little things that count.
There ain't no K-girl with big titties who will do outcall to your home and go a-level on camera with no cap.
That's where Jpn has you beat my friends, LOL. Sure I can get nice FS from a regular K-girl, but sometimes I'm too lazy to go out hunting for it. When I can just order custom delivery to my shack.
HkPunter99
08-25-24, 13:33
I've mongered pretty much all of Asia (SE anyway. Thai, Phil, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bali). Have not been to Japan; I understand the nuisance of the law (no vaginal). I've read the threads.
1. Japan Thread Summary. Bias against foreigner sex, but there are some soaplands and massage places that are friendly. Some agencies to hotel as well. However, whether you can get good ole FS vaginal sex is entirely hit or miss. It is more "no" then "yes". Fucking without a condom pretty rare, even with understanding it will cost more (which is only fair).
Correct?
2. Honest Vote. Understanding this is Tokyo forum and likely a favorable bias to Japan, my question. I have a month in late March / early April.
Choice A. Back to Thailand. Phuket and BKK for entire 4 weeks.
Choice be. 2 weeks Thailand and 2 weeks Japan.
+ Thailand Only. FS and usually BB for me is pretty much given with little issues on past 4 trips (money talks as does some charm and a smile). Nice beaches and I can train muay thai while fucking at night.
- Thailand Only. Been to Thailand 4 times. My favorite place but I've seen it all.
+ Japan. Fascinated with looks of Japanese women and would like to see the place.
- Japan. While I combine tourism and mongering on trips, if I only got BJs and occasionally FS (particularly if always covered) I'd consider it a letdown. Like I said I am willing to pay more.
Recommendations? A or be.First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!
Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.
1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.
Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:
- Versaille - https://y-versailles.com/access/.
- why Shirt - https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php.
- Silky Doll.
- Cream Lemon.
- Prima Donna.
- Etc.
What I understand is that you might not get a choice of any girl you want, only some of the girls service foreigners.
There is one in Gotanda (near Shinagawa station) that I went to called Happiness.
https://tokyo.happiness-group.com/top.html
If you want to go, just call and ask if they speak English (33521;35486;12434;35441;12379;12414;12377;12363; / Eigo o hanasemasu ka) and they will pass you on to a guy there that does.
I had a GREAT experience there in April 2023 (44 000 JPY for 80 minutes).
2.) Delivery Health Services. Like Tokyo Hentai Club. Some girls will offer FS, but as been said on this board.
A.) it costs more (assume 10 000 JPY or more).
Be.) sometimes it comes down to whether the girl likes you.
Here are a list of places, if you want FS, look for girls who offer FS.
(prices in JPY for 2 hour sessions. Includes delivery fee to Shinagawa area, + CIM option).
THC - https://hentaitokyo.com/ (56000 + 10 K min for sex).
Tokyo Style - https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/top.php (48000).
Aroma Fantasy - https://aroma-fantasy.com/en_top/ (40000,90 minutes, HJ only).
Paradise - https://paradise-tokyo.net/home (51000).
Mana - https://manatokyo.com/top.php (50000).
Shady Motion - https://www.shadymotion.com/en/top/ (51000).
Asian Mystique - https://asianmystique.com/ (35000, guaranteed FS).
Amateur Tokyo - amateurtokyo.com/ system. Php (41000).
Gingira - http://www.gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html (65000).
The lone standout there where FS is guaranteed is Asian Mystique. I really had a great experience there the one time I used them.
Now, as someone who has been to Tokyo twice and Bangkok twice (and Hong Kong 9 times over the last 10 years). Nothing really compares to Thailand. But Thailand is just a pain to get to from the East Coast of the US where I am. I always loved the Wan Chai bar scene pre-COVID, a bit more expensive than Bangkok, but loved the bars and the variety (I dig the GFE you get from Pinays).
The thing to look for on girls profiles is if they offer Anal, that typically means there is a FS option. .
I would say try Japan for a few days. It is a fun city, the food is amazing and there is lots to do in addition to our hobby. It is more expensive though, you can pretty much assume spending twice as much on a hotel per night but I like it.
One other thing, I also noticed BBFS is pretty common at Nana now. I was 4 for 4 on my trip last December. I don't think it as common in Tokyo though. So that is something else to consider.
CCRider1008
08-25-24, 18:30
First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!
Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.
1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.
Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:
- Versaille - https://y-versailles.com/access/.
- why Shirt - https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php.
- Silky Doll.
- Cream Lemon.
- Prima Donna.
- Etc.
consider.HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.
The lone standout there where FS is guaranteed is Asian Mystique. I really had a great experience there the one time I used them.
I ordered 3 girls from AM. All provided FS.
AlwaysWatching
08-26-24, 04:48
So was visiting Japan for work, read the forum here and took some of the advice. I was staying in Yokosuka which is as dead as hell. So decided to try gfesoapland up in Kawasaki. Let tell you what, it was fun as hell. The girl I saw Marin tried to convince me to come back because they are running a threesome discount in September. I think I just might because no cover was offered as an option. Which normally isn't offered from what I have read She also hinted that return customers get access to a special hole if they will give her bonus. Will repeat and try the threesome, she recommend a threesome with her and a girl called a Rana think I am going to try as they are both ranked number one and two at the place.
HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.It all depends on your preference as purely a punter trip Thailand wins hands down. As a tourist / punter trip Japan wins for me personnelly. Japan generally does take a little more effort as you've more than likely read as FS isn't exactly legal. Put there are quite a few places that bridge that. But a little more effort into and you'll get everything you want.
HkPunter99
08-26-24, 11:27
HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.My pleasure! I realized there were some typos in my note, not enough coffee yesterday morning when I wrote it so glad it was helpful!
Although not a comprehensive list, I did a google map of the area that has a high concentration of Soaplands.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/soapland/@35.7245257, 139.7942702,18 z / data=!4 m2!2 m1!6 e1.
These are in an area that is North West of the heart of Tokyo, an area named Taito City. This matters because of choosing where to stay and recognizing that it could be a trek to get to them if you stay in the south of the city.
Also, if you're a public transportation guy, and use an iPhone, I suggest adding the Suica card to your Apple Wallet and then spending a bit of time learning the subway system in Tokyo. It's an amazing way to get around the city!
CCRider1008
08-26-24, 21:35
My pleasure! I realized there were some typos in my note, not enough coffee yesterday morning when I wrote it so glad it was helpful!
Although not a comprehensive list, I did a google map of the area that has a high concentration of Soaplands.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/soapland/@35.7245257, 139.7942702,18 z / data=!4 m2!2 m1!6 e1.
These are in an area that is North West of the heart of Tokyo, an area named Taito City. This matters because of choosing where to stay and recognizing that it could be a trek to get to them if you stay in the south of the city.
Also, if you're a public transportation guy, and use an iPhone, I suggest adding the Suica card to your Apple Wallet and then spending a bit of time learning the subway system in Tokyo. It's an amazing way to get around the city!Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.
Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.
I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.
I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.
Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.
Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.
I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.
I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.Honestly don't worry about getting around. Google maps will give you great directions it even tell you exactly which platform number to look for. Also taxis are everywhere.
As for translators your experiences will vary. If you go for some of the forgien friendly ones mentioned here, gfesoapland, henti, shadymotion asian mistque, they will all be fine with it. I have yet to have an issue with translators yet.
HkPunter99
08-27-24, 11:28
Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.
Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.
I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.
I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.I'm a higher end (Marriott) hotel guy myself. JW Marriott in BKK (just booked in January), Renaissance in HK, and I do the Tokyo Marriott. Which I don't recommend if you're in to tourist things, it's more a business hotel. I'm sure others here can give better Tokyo hotel suggestions and help simplify the subway system (I only had to learn about 2 lines for the two times I"ve been there. Yamanote and Keikyu). Pick your hotel first, then worry about learning the subway lines.
As at David032 said, translators aren't that big a deal with most of the places that service foreigners. Most of the girls will have some basic English skills and some are incredibly proficient. That said, I'm the same with try to learn a little of the local language and it does go a long way with the girls (IMHO).
I just booked 4 nights in Tokyo in November, so I'll be sure to post some reports from my trip.
SouRiceCream
08-27-24, 14:14
Went to luxe 3 weeks ago on a Thursday. Couldn't get in as I didn't make a reservation. Came out and the guy directed us to the booth where there is a guide for RLD in Kabukicho. He talked to couple of similar clubs which allowed entry for foreigners but they were full as well. After another call he made us enter luxe but with a steep 13 k entry. Me and my friend went in. First girl name Airi or something, she knew English was half Latino and had fantastic tits. I loved sucking her tits but she didn't let me DFK, she did let me touch her pussy as well, gave in for her a drink and couldn't say no. Meanwhile my friend's girl refused to do anything till a drink was served. Next was a Japanese girl with barely any boobs but did DFK like no tomorrow. We were liplocked for about 10 of 13 minutes. Next girl came which again had no boobs and didn't even let me kiss, couldn't speak English as well. My friend's 3rd girl was a proper Japanese but she had a stinking mouth so he just sucked her tits for all the time.
It was a fun experience having me and my friend beside each other sucking tits all around but I wouldn't repeat. Good for a 1 time experience considering the price for being a foreigner.
After this we went to JIS club which advertises number of women inside with our broken Japanese, but since women there knew only Japanese we were out in 15 minutes.
Soaplands are the best bet tbh. Went to one last year in asakusa and paid 23 k for a 70 min session and was totally satisfied.
Damages - 13+2.5 k.
Thank you for sharing this, I may plan a trip to Japan now.
First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!
Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.
1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.
Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:
- Versaille - https://y-versailles.com/access/.
- why Shirt - https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php.
- Silky Doll.
- Cream Lemon.
- Prima Donna..
First of all sorry, my English is not so good.
1. if you want FS, don't go to japanese run MPs.
Check google maps for Thai spa or Thai massage. If they are run by Thai or Chinese the chances to gut FS are much better, but not guaranteed. Walk in they show you the menu, as if FS is possible, if yes try to see the girl before you pay. If no, be polite and leave. It's a try and error adventure.
I left 2 stores yesterday, the 3rd was a hit. BTW lots of MPs are not registered in the Internet, just open your eyes when walking around.
DAMAGE 15.000, 30 min, Thai girl in the 30's, friendly and good service 5 min HJ, then cover and some positions, finish, shower, off we go.
Location: Ueno, same building as arias Thai massage (there they offered HJ only), name of shop was RELAXATION &BODY SPA, easy to find.
Today I went to Shinjuku, same procedure, knocked the door of 3 spas before I got a hit. 19.000 for 60 min, run by Chinese. Cute, mid20's Chinese (lucky me and I will return), payed took shower and off we went. Bad Thai massage (no wonder it was bad, she was chinese LOL), then HJ, cover, ride shower tea again. Be kind to them, try to make some small talk, easy going.
BTW, I am an athletic type, blond, tall, maybe an advantage to get special treatments, who knows.
Hope this helps some of you.
ChiliChill
08-30-24, 01:47
I am tempted to try Japanese girls in the US. I know this is not a question on this forum, but would appreciate any pointers for Chicago area from Traveler X.
Also, what are the best value for money options for someone speaking fluent Japanese in Tokyo area, both for soaps as well as deli health.
I am interested in meeting genuine slender Japanese girls.For finding JGirls in the US, I can't speak to Chicago, but there are a few apartment buildings in the DC area where they have a stream of KGirls and JGirls on rotation. Search the USA forum for Blue OCean or Tyson's Corner. Last time I was there I got a threesome with 2 really hot early-twenty-somethings. I didn't let them know that I spoke Japanese, so it was fun to hear them talk to each other not knowing that I understood.
As for Tokyo, if you can speak Japanese, it opens up so many doors. There's a listing site called Fujoho where you can choose your neighborhood and drill into the types of service you want, (Deli Health, Hotel Health, Oppai Club, etc) and get listing after listing.
I like the ones with the super-specific kinks. There are S&M shops ranging from light to hard, S or M or switch. Shops that specialize in age ranges or body types or costumes. There's a shop called Molester Train which is one of my favorite kink shops. You go to their office, choose a girl from a set of baseball cards, pay up front for the time, then go find a nearby love hotel. Once you're checked in, you call back and tell them your room number. Then you get undressed. The girl knocks on your door and you open it just enough for her to put her hand in, then (without either of you seeing each other) you slip into the shower while she gets the room ready. She knocks on the bathroom door to let you know the fun begins. When you come out, she's wearing the costume you picked, blindfolded, holding on to a train handle strap that's attached to the door frame, with the sounds of the Japanese subway train playing on her phone. She can't see you and is facing the wall and pretends like you're not there while you start to molest her as if you were riding the train. Also laying on the bed is a series of vibrators for you to choose from. Holy moly, that one is fun.
I think the best neighborhood for total selection and variety is Ikebukuro. For visitors without Japanese, there are a decent number of shops in Kabukicho.
Enjoy your visit!
Chili.
As for Tokyo, if you can speak Japanese, it opens up so many doors. If you speak Japanese, and can read it too, then you really don't need sites like this at all.
I think the best neighborhood for total selection and variety is Ikebukuro. For visitors without Japanese, there are a decent number of shops in Kabukicho. Ikebukuro has some decent stuff. Couple soaplands, oppai pub, pregnant fetish shop, several Thai massage. Not a bad place to set up. But most of it like the pink salons are no foreigners allowed.
1. if you want FS, don't go to japanese run MPs.Or you could go to a foreigner OK soapland.
Excellent Club Danshaku.
King's Club.
Putit Royal.
Ikebukuro Gold.
Ikebukuro Bunny Girls.
GFE Soapland.
Darling Harbour.
Etc.
Guaranteed full service with real Japanese women.
I recently did a one hour session with Len from THC. When she showed up at my hotel I immediately wished I had booked a longer session. Wanted to extend, but alas she had another session not long after me so it wasn't possible. But it was possible to get a "movie recording with face" so I have a video of her blowing me now. That will be saved and backed up for future enjoyment.
This is her: https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2389.
Pics look good IMO. My kind of girl. But she looked even better in person. You never know how these kinds of things are going to go. The Japanese are experts at photo manipulation. In this case, I got what I wanted and more.
This is the kind of girl who would turn your head in a train station. A real beauty, sexy body. Pretty tall and slender. I bet she's around 6'0 with her high heels. She could easily do porn and be a top act.
Her English was pretty good. Confident as you would expect from such a looker. Blowjob was nice, wet and sloppy. Took her time working on my rod.
She did eat out my asshole while wanking me off too, which is always nice. Nothing like looking down and watching a Japanese beauty tongue your anus.
After that I had her sit on my face and she sucked me off in 69 position for quite a while. Just when I thought my tongue was going to give out I blew my load in her mouth.
Total damage was 45,000 Yen. About $310 with the exchange rate. Definitely work it with the take home video.
She was so much younger and better looking than me that I really felt she deserved my money too. Sometime you walk away feeling like you wasted dough. In this case I was left wanting more.
Don't get to Tokyo as often as I used to. Hope she's still there next time I come through.
For finding JGirls in the US, I can't speak to Chicago, but there are a few apartment buildings in the DC area where they have a stream of KGirls and JGirls on rotation. Search the USA forum for Blue OCean or Tyson's Corner. Last time I was there I got a threesome with 2 really hot early-twenty-somethings. I didn't let them know that I spoke Japanese, so it was fun to hear them talk to each other not knowing that I understood.
As for Tokyo, if you can speak Japanese, it opens up so many doors. There's a listing site called Fujoho where you can choose your neighborhood and drill into the types of service you want, (Deli Health, Hotel Health, Oppai Club, etc) and get listing after listing.
I like the ones with the super-specific kinks. There are S&M shops ranging from light to hard, S or M or switch. Shops that specialize in age ranges or body types or costumes. There's a shop called Molester Train which is one of my favorite kink shops. You go to their office, choose a girl from a set of baseball cards, pay up front for the time, then go find a nearby love hotel. Once you're checked in, you call back and tell them your room number. Then you get undressed. The girl knocks on your door and you open it just enough for her to put her hand in, then (without either of you seeing each other) you slip into the shower while she gets the room ready. She knocks on the bathroom door to let you know the fun begins. When you come out, she's wearing the costume you picked, blindfolded, holding on to a train handle strap that's attached to the door frame, with the sounds of the Japanese subway train playing on her phone. She can't see you and is facing the wall and pretends like you're not there while you start to molest her as if you were riding the train. Also laying on the bed is a series of vibrators for you to choose from. Holy moly, that one is fun.
I think the best neighborhood for total selection and variety is Ikebukuro. For visitors without Japanese, there are a decent number of shops in Kabukicho.
Enjoy your visit!
Chili.Don't go to any of the apartment ones in DC. They are little better than sex trafficking. You will in no way get a better experience than in Japan. One of those agency's was busted recently and there whole client list and all conversations were turned over to the police as part of a plea deal. It's funny how people are arguing you get a better Japanese experience in the US than in Japan. Where do you think those girls learned it. Someone else mentioned all the forgien soaplands one visit to them is half the price of anything in the US and the service is a100% better.
TropicanGeorge
09-01-24, 10:40
I recently did a one hour session with Len from THC. When she showed up at my hotel I immediately wished I had booked a longer session. Wanted to extend, but alas she had another session not long after me so it wasn't possible. But it was possible to get a "movie recording with face" so I have a video of her blowing me now. That will be saved and backed up for future enjoyment.
This is her: https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2389.
Pics look good IMO. My kind of girl. But she looked even better in person. You never know how these kinds of things are going to go. The Japanese are experts at photo manipulation. In this case, I got what I wanted and more.
This is the kind of girl who would turn your head in a train station. A real beauty, sexy body. Pretty tall and slender. I bet she's around 6'0 with her high heels. She could easily do porn and be a top act.
Her English was pretty good. Confident as you would expect from such a looker. Blowjob was nice, wet and sloppy. Took her time working on my rod.
She did eat out my asshole while wanking me off too, which is always nice. Nothing like looking down and watching a Japanese beauty tongue your anus.
After that I had her sit on my face and she sucked me off in 69 position for quite a while. Just when I thought my tongue was going to give out I blew my load in her mouth.
Total damage was 45,000 Yen. About $310 with the exchange rate. Definitely work it with the take home video.
She was so much younger and better looking than me that I really felt she deserved my money too. Sometime you walk away feeling like you wasted dough. In this case I was left wanting more.
Don't get to Tokyo as often as I used to. Hope she's still there next time I come through.Wow 6'0"? Must have been tall heels or she is a naturally tall stunner, pretty rare in Japan.
Don't go to any of the apartment ones in DC. They are little better than sex trafficking. You will in no way get a better experience than in Japan. One of those agency's was busted recently and there whole client list and all conversations were turned over to the police as part of a plea deal. It's funny how people are arguing you get a better Japanese experience in the US than in Japan. Where do you think those girls learned it. Someone else mentioned all the forgien soaplands one visit to them is half the price of anything in the US and the service is a100% better.Agreed. Not to mention that it is legal in Japan.
Agreed. Not to mention that it is legal in Japan.If you're caught in a K / J-Girl bust in the USA, you can kiss your career, reputation, and income goodbye. Travel to Japan to see providers who are comfortable in their environment. They can speak their own language, aren't stuck in an apartment, and can pick their own schedules.
Traveler X
09-02-24, 17:45
Went to luxe 3 weeks ago on a Thursday. Couldn't get in as I didn't make a reservation. Came out and the guy directed us to the booth where there is a guide for RLD in Kabukicho. He talked to couple of similar clubs which allowed entry for foreigners but they were full as well. After another call he made us enter luxe but with a steep 13 k entry. Me and my friend went in. First girl name Airi or something, she knew English was half Latino and had fantastic tits. I loved sucking her tits but she didn't let me DFK, she did let me touch her pussy as well, gave in for her a drink and couldn't say no. Meanwhile my friend's girl refused to do anything till a drink was served. Next was a Japanese girl with barely any boobs but did DFK like no tomorrow. We were liplocked for about 10 of 13 minutes. Next girl came which again had no boobs and didn't even let me kiss, couldn't speak English as well. My friend's 3rd girl was a proper Japanese but she had a stinking mouth so he just sucked her tits for all the time.Glad you had a memorable time. Earlier hours there are less crowds so it's easier to get in, and the rate is cheaper. Regardless of being Japanese or foreigner. It really pays to go early.
Officially you can't touch a girl's bottom but as you saw if there is consent no one cares.
Wow 6'0"? Must have been tall heels or she is a naturally tall stunner, pretty rare in Japan.She was pretty tall for Japan, but heels definitely added a lot. She fit nicely over me during 69 so she must have had some height on her. I'm not short at all.
Traveler X
09-03-24, 00:59
For finding JGirls in the US, I can't speak to Chicago, but there are a few apartment buildings in the DC area where they have a stream of KGirls and JGirls on rotation. Search the USA forum for Blue OCean or Tyson's Corner. Last time I was there I got a threesome with 2 really hot early-twenty-somethings. I didn't let them know that I spoke Japanese, so it was fun to hear them talk to each other not knowing that I understood.That must be fun. I always start with Japanese so they don't get surprised later or interrupt the session since the next question is always "why". One girl had a 2 week tour with over 100 bookings and I and another Japanese guy were the only ones.
The important point is you don't have to speak anything but English to make an appointment and bang.
When you come out, she's wearing the costume you picked, blindfolded, holding on to a train handle strap that's attached to the door frame, with the sounds of the Japanese subway train playing on her phone. She can't see you and is facing the wall and pretends like you're not there while you start to molest her as if you were riding the train. Also laying on the bed is a series of vibrators for you to choose from. Holy moly, that one is fun.
Chili.I have visited a similar one, there is a whole subset of "harassment" shops. If you can understand instructions it's worth going just for the novelty. This shop was incall and I walked in with several schoolgirls blindfolded and shackled and I could molest them all I wanted. Anything I wanted by hands as long as I'm reasonably gentle (you wash and gargle before the playtime begins). This step had a time limit and I picked the girl I wanted by her nametag. Then I waited a few minutes where the curtains opened and the girl I picked walked me upstairs to a room, just like soapland. The next time I used her card and booked her directly without the play.
It is a bit similar to this shop which is themed "blindfold and shackles":
https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/system/
Then there is one for just girls with huge G-cup tits, called G-scandal:
https://www.g-scandal.com/top.html
Then there is delivery called robot delivery, where the girl won't say a word:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/robo-deli/
These are specialties you can't get outside, not at this level of service.
That said, regular FS is way better in the US. Of my top 3 girls I saw in the US, none of them ever worked in Japan. Two of them worked Taiwan, Macau, Canada, US, and neighboring countries. One of them worked only US ever, making more than a year's pay every month she worked. The pay in Japanese FS shops is just too low in comparison, the shops take too much cut. Hence why girls are willing to exchange LINE so often these days. I have only asked one girl I saw in Japan for her LINE, but was offered it a dozen times without me asking or wanting (I refused).
There are also some jgirls who have worked in Japan, but they are always the less skilled ones. It speaks volumes that even the JAV stars working in the US are always less skilled than the touring jgirls. And much older, so the JAV thing is their gimmick to compete. Any girl over 25 has some gimmick like huge tits, JAV, or anal. The girl who only worked US started at 19. She mostly got perfect 10s on looks on T** by reviewers, which is extremely rare.
That must be fun. I always start with Japanese so they don't get surprised later or interrupt the session since the next question is always "why". One girl had a 2 week tour with over 100 bookings and I and another Japanese guy were the only ones.
The important point is you don't have to speak anything but English to make an appointment and bang.
I have visited a similar one, there is a whole subset of "harassment" shops. If you can understand instructions it's worth going just for the novelty. This shop was incall and I walked in with several schoolgirls blindfolded and shackled and I could molest them all I wanted. Anything I wanted by hands as long as I'm reasonably gentle (you wash and gargle before the playtime begins). This step had a time limit and I picked the girl I wanted by her nametag. Then I waited a few minutes where the curtains opened and the girl I picked walked me upstairs to a room, just like soapland. The next time I used her card and booked her directly without the play.
It is a bit similar to this shop which is themed "blindfold and shackles":
https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/system/
Then there is one for just girls with huge G-cup tits, called G-scandal:
https://www.g-scandal.com/top.html
Then there is delivery called robot delivery, where the girl won't say a word:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/robo-deli/
These are specialties you can't get outside, not at this level of service.
That said, regular FS is way better in the US. Of my top 3 girls I saw in the US, none of them ever worked in Japan. Two of them worked Taiwan, Macau, Canada, US, and neighboring countries. One of them worked only US ever, making more than a year's pay every month she worked. The pay in Japanese FS shops is just too low in comparison, the shops take too much cut. Hence why girls are willing to exchange LINE so often these days. I have only asked one girl I saw in Japan for her LINE, but was offered it a dozen times without me asking or wanting (I refused).
There are also some jgirls who have worked in Japan, but they are always the less skilled ones. It speaks volumes that even the JAV stars working in the US are always less skilled than the touring jgirls. And much older, so the JAV thing is their gimmick to compete. Any girl over 25 has some gimmick like huge tits, JAV, or anal. The girl who only worked US started at 19. She mostly got perfect 10s on looks on T** by reviewers, which is extremely rare.I always have to disagree with you LOL. First there are no advertised full service Japanese stores. Only ones that cater to foreigners advertise that way which is illegal as hell. I get that it's your experience but truthfully I can't see it being better. I mongered for over 20 years in the US my first service at a soapland was better than the almost all of that. Second you are really not going to high end soaplands if your saying the service is better in the US. . There are girls here litterly go to classes on how to please guys and most of them are really good at it. Most of the Jgirls that go to the US most not all but the vast majority. Are the ones that don't earn much in Japan or are mostly being sex trafficked and forced to do it. They are generally the bottom level of girls in Japan. I know a few independent Jgirls who tried it and the all uniformly hated it said they did make more money but it wasn't worth. To dangerous and all had a friend who got arrested and reported because of it. I went back to the you.
Pegasus887
09-03-24, 10:08
Does anyone notice the blanket censorship over "foreigner-friendly" services discussed on the forum besides Asian Mystique? Seems pretty sketchy with the heavy-handed moderation going on these days on the site compared to what it was like 10 years ago.
Haengebruecke
09-03-24, 15:29
You can find a lot of tips for foreigners at japanfridaynight.com, because there seem to be only a few establishments that are also open to foreigners.
My first Soapland adventure in Tokyo (I never remember the name of the place) was a bit disappointing, I didn't know exactly what to expect, the lady was pretty, but not great and only had her back against mine in the bathtub Part of it rubbed, then massaged my legs on the bed, a little bored, and I kept waiting to see what would finally happen, she always acted as if she didn't understand exactly what I was saying in English, but then an alarm clock sounded and she was suddenly able to say "ooooops time is up" perfectly and wanted to stop the operation immediately. I was then able to persuade her to at least jerk me off, which worked, but of course it wasn't that great anymore. Sex is banned in Japan, so I didn't expect it now, but later I would learn different.
A few days later I was at the "Barubola Marin" in Shinjuku, significantly higher prices, but I had also read that the price is usually directly related to the performance. As a foreigner you pay half more, someone in the West should do that and everyone would scream "racism!" Well, that's just how it is and I played along and paid around 400 euros for 90 minutes. The staff is very polite and accommodating. A girl was recommended to me without a picture and that she was "so nice", I let myself be persuaded and was already annoyed while waiting because I thought to myself that they just wanted to sell a bad girl "cheaply". But it was exactly the opposite!
Chiaki Nana was the best thing that could have happened to me. Approximately early / mid 20's (hard to say), sweet as sugar, petite with very small breasts, flawless skin and a smile to die for. Can speak English well enough, we laughed a lot and she was absolutely there for me. The only thing that was missing were kisses, she made it clear right away that below the neck (practically) anything is possible, but above that is a taboo zone. She washes you thoroughly at the beginning, then there's "nurunuru" and at 90 minutes there's traffic twice ("grey area in Japan": As I understand it, you pay for everything else except genital sex, the girl can then give you vaginal sex as a gift ", this circumvents the ban on "paying for genital sex" Licking and fingering is possible, a real treat with this sweet pussy! Then I just went to her, always brought her a gift and the last time I even got one from her! This happened to me for the first time in my "career".
One time Nana wasn't there and I wanted to try the "Hentai Club Tokyo", which I found on the Internet and whose website looks quite professional. But here I was unlucky. The girl's name was "Roko" and she was only interested in "quick shooting" with her hand. When I said please slow down, she said something mockingly, that's the slowest thing possible. Condom mounted on half-flaccid penis and then just rubbed. I had booked and paid for a vibrator as an extra, but the one she brought didn't work and I was only allowed to "play" with it for about 2 minutes. I asked about "CIM", she didn't respond, but in the end she still wanted the money for it even though we hadn't done it! Then I just left and didn't look back at her again. I don't want to deny that there are definitely good girls there too, but In hindsight it was strange that every girl has only positive reviews and they are all written in good English and in the same style, with no careless errors.
Well, after that I just went to Nana because I couldn't believe I could find something better, she was so nice, beautiful and didn't have a problem with my size, which is often a problem with Asian women. As I said, it's not cheap there (a good 400 euros for 90 minutes), it seems to be in the range "between middle class and upper class", everything is very clean and professional, and I can "unfortunately only" recommend Nana, who But it was really great and I will never forget it. To fall in love.
https://barubola.com/en/#.
P.S. I just checked, Nana is still listed there.
Does anyone notice the blanket censorship over "foreigner-friendly" services discussed on the forum besides Asian Mystique? Seems pretty sketchy with the heavy-handed moderation going on these days on the site compared to what it was like 10 years ago.IDK but it's definitely a strange place. They hold reviews for weeks or months before they publish. One of the moderators is an older white woman who is apparently an escort. And they banned me for trying to review an escort from Tokyo Hentai Club. If you search the site you will find no mention of THC even though it's clearly the most popular agency in the country for foreigners.
First there are no advertised full service Japanese stores. You get full service at any soapland. There are at least 10 in Tokyo where you can walk right in as a foreigner and get full service.
Pegasus887
09-04-24, 02:12
You can find a lot of tips for foreigners at japanfridaynight.com, because there seem to be only a few establishments that are also open to foreigners.
My first Soapland adventure in Tokyo (I never remember the name of the place) was a bit disappointing, I didn't know exactly what to expect, the lady was pretty, but not great and only had her back against mine in the bathtub Part of it rubbed, then massaged my legs on the bed, a little bored, and I kept waiting to see what would finally happen, she always acted as if she didn't understand exactly what I was saying in English, but then an alarm clock sounded and she was suddenly able to say "ooooops time is up" perfectly and wanted to stop the operation immediately. I was then able to persuade her to at least jerk me off, which worked, but of course it wasn't that great anymore. Sex is banned in Japan, so I didn't expect it now, but later I would learn different.This is a prime example of a suspicious post, dissing THC, (yes they do have some shitty providers but overall the service is excellent if you play your cards right), linking to some new blog that is written in broken English by a Japanese broker who asks to contact them to make bookings on your behalf to the shops listed? Praising Barubola which was recently bought out by the Marine group turning foreigner-friendly post covid with a spotty track record in its shallow history screwing foreigners over.
Tennessee78
09-04-24, 02:42
Has anybody had luck with matching / deai sites for enjo kosai in Tokyo? I speak / read Japanese, but no idea which ones are foreigner-friendly or popular.
Thanks!
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