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You get full service at any soapland. There are at least 10 in Tokyo where you can walk right in as a foreigner and get full service.Show me on their website or on any correspondence where they say they are full service.
Does anyone notice the blanket censorship over "foreigner-friendly" services discussed on the forum besides Asian Mystique? Seems pretty sketchy with the heavy-handed moderation going on these days on the site compared to what it was like 10 years ago.LOL asian mistque actually has low number of the reviews on the site your better off asking if a certain girl form yshirt is part of the ownership. The forgien friendly ones mostly mentioned here aren't mentioned there because the places have management issues. Where the managent is aggressive at targeting other foreigner friendly shop to shut them down or bad mouth thems. Hentai and GFE are both owned by the same group. In fact that group owns most of the licenced foreigner friendly places.
IDK but it's definitely a strange place. They hold reviews for weeks or months before they publish. One of the moderators is an older white woman who is apparently an escort. And they banned me for trying to review an escort from Tokyo Hentai Club. If you search the site you will find no mention of THC even though it's clearly the most popular agency in the country for foreigners.Henti and GFE are banned from that forum because the management company has caused issues on the forum itself. They aggressively targeted other foreign friendly shops and independant escorts and created problems. So they aren't allowed to post anything. I call BS that you were banned due to just trying post a review. Cause I have also tried to review GFE and henti on there. All that happened is the review was denied and never posted never had an issue after that.
Pegasus887
09-04-24, 05:34
Henti and GFE are banned from that forum because the management company has caused issues on the forum itself. They aggressively targeted other foreign friendly shops and independant escorts and created problems. So they aren't allowed to post anything. I call BS that you were banned due to just trying post a review. Cause I have also tried to review GFE and henti on there. All that happened is the review was denied and never posted never had an issue after that.As far as I know they have never participated on TAG. The moderators were alarmed at the amount of positive reviews being posted about the service by new users when they first started and came to the conclusion that they were all "fake" reviews. Why would they need to sabotage other businesses when they have a huge market share jeopardizing their future?
It seems ridiculous for an independent forum to be moderated in this manner without any outside business interests.
Show me on their website or on any correspondence where they say they are full service.I've never noticed such a claim of full service on a soapland website, but I've also not noticed on such sites that "production" or "the actual act" -- euphemisms for vaginal intercourse -- are forbidden.
Such notices ARE included on the websites of delivery health / etc. Shops. For example, on that Robot Deliheru site it says:
"It is forbidden (by the law) to require or force the girls to act in real performance. ".
But on that Soapland Barubola Marin site, there is no mention of the full service euphemisms on the prohibited list. It's like the dog that didn't bark in the Sherlock Holmes story.
More than once the phrase "this is not a sex shop" was uttered to me in Japan in fashion health places, so it was slightly jarring when I heard "this is a sex shop" when I entered a soapland in Fukuoka.
So yes, soapland places (or restaurant association places in Osaka) will not explicitly advertise full service but, as the saying goes, if you know, you know.
Traveler X
09-04-24, 17:49
I always have to disagree with you LOL. First there are no advertised full service Japanese stores. Only ones that cater to foreigners advertise that way which is illegal as hell. I get that it's your experience but truthfully I can't see it being better. I mongered for over 20 years in the US my first service at a soapland was better than the almost all of that. Second you are really not going to high end soaplands if your saying the service is better in the US. . There are girls here litterly go to classes on how to please guys and most of them are really good at it. Most of the Jgirls that go to the US most not all but the vast majority. Are the ones that don't earn much in Japan or are mostly being sex trafficked and forced to do it. They are generally the bottom level of girls in Japan. I know a few independent Jgirls who tried it and the all uniformly hated it said they did make more money but it wasn't worth. To dangerous and all had a friend who got arrested and reported because of it. I went back to the you.I'm not really disagreeing with you. I've mongered in Japan and the US 20 years same as you. For the last 18, Japan was better. Same as you so far. I had to take a break due to Covid but got in right after restrictions were lifted, even bought my ticket when it was only partial (pre-test required). So, our experiences aren't contradictory. I had a great time at soapland, always said so. A lot did change after Covid. I am saying there is a consistently better experience from what I've done myself, but that's just my opinion.
And I agree that a lot of jgirls who went to the US "hated it but made more money". I don't want to write an essay on that but some have made 3 or 4 tours so it's not every girl. Certain shops are solid but most girls are not going to them. The more popular shops suck but girls go to them because they cram 10-12 appointments a day. I've dated one girl and on hour 4th tour she stuck with the better shop - lower rate and slightly less appointments but a good and easy day in comparison. Jgirls are sharing notes realtime and even the last few weeks there has been a big shift in where they are working.
I have almost unlimited funds so it is not the cost aspect for me. But almost everyone else is very cost conscious and that's the only reason I'm detailed on costs. I personally don't care, my time is what's limited. I visit Japan for just a few weeks for a spontaneous experience, I am just as happy with a 458 yen gyudon as a 20000 yen omakase course. I try both. It's about the variety and even if one of them is not up to standard (more likely the latter honestly), I am just trying to enjoy things freely. I visit different soaplands out of curiosity. I was even telling my friend at Yoshiwara let's just try so we can say we did (for "historical places in Japan experience") but the staff were so off-putting "Yeah our ladies are older than you expect so what" that my friend talked me out of it. To give you an idea of my approach. Enough talk about money.
But it's important you disagree because we are both trying to paint a realistic picture for others with different opinions. You know some guys are going to be disappointed when they have a bit too high of an expectation either of the girl or more likely the language barrier wall (and ensuing gaijin tax with many places and girls refusing). I've always said there's a lot of fun in Japan with many advantages, but there are some reality checks for the newer guys. We are both helping them in our own approach, maybe it's good cop bad cop but I have no complaints. Some guys are coming all the way from the US, and I think especially first-timers are each looking for something different, soapland is not necessarily the goto. The US market for jgirls is really different now than before, I have the proof but you know I am not going to post that. I don't mind you disagreeing with me, it's important for people to be skeptical either way.
Henti and GFE are banned from that forum because the management company has caused issues on the forum itself. They aggressively targeted other foreign friendly shops and independant escorts and created problems. So they aren't allowed to post anything. I call BS that you were banned due to just trying post a review. Cause I have also tried to review GFE and henti on there. All that happened is the review was denied and never posted never had an issue after that.Why do you know so much? Are you a site owner? LOL. Whatever the case I can't post there any more, and I don't want to either.
Show me on their website or on any correspondence where they say they are full service.Show me on any fast food restaurant website where they say they sell garbage food that makes you fat and unhealthy.
Yet that is exactly true.
And every soapland in Japan is full service even if there isn't a sign on the door that says "fuck pussy inside".
So I see a lot of debate here about US J-girls vs. Japan. I have been in Tokyo for around a week now and also did 4 days in Sapporo. I'm pretty active in NYC for the last 2 years and am I frequent poster on the local review boards. I only started doing this shit post-covid and after Japanese hoes had started to dominate the NYC sex market. As a white guy with very limited Japanese, my takeaway from this trip so far has been that NYC is absolutely better than Japan for FS with hot young Japanese chicks. I will try and bullet point this:
(1) Quality: I'm realizing now that we get some really hot girls in NYC. The Japanese agents send us good shit. They are not wasting overseas flights and rooms on ugly girls. Plus they make a commission off these girls. If the agents send hot young girls who get lots of bookings, well then everybody makes more money for it. We even get some hot young girls and JAV stars who only work overseas. I've met a number of J-girls like this now. It's a combination of the money overseas being so much better and the fact that some girls would rather not service Japanese customers. I fucked hot AV girls in NY like Rin Asahi, Ayase Kokoro and Yume Ayakawa plus many other hot young ones who are overseas only girls. A lot of high quality J-pussies apparently don't work in Japan.
(2) Service: If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, service is better in the USA IMO. The girls are much friendlier and often have some English. I think a lot of them really step up their game while they're on tour overseas. They want to get good feedback, good reviews and make a lot of money before they go home. If they're not good service, many US shops / agencies will give them the boot. Here in Japan I have gotten screwed with some providers who were older, not very attractive or just not friendly and not good service. Many girls here don't want to do kiss or 69 for example. These are basic services with J-girls in NYC and the stores require it. But in Japan it seems like the girls and the Soaplands don't give a shit. You're just some gaijin who will be gone in a week or two after all. So if you're not happy at the end of the session, well tough shit. They already got your money anyways. I see lots of guys here talking about soapland sessions where the girl would only jerk them off or just tried to run down the clock. That shit would never happen in NY and if it did, the girl would either step up her game real fast or she would be gone.
(3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. I've lost count of how many times I walked on a girl in NY because I didn't like what I saw in person. In Japan, you can't do this, and they don't offer lineups. Whether it's delivery health or Soaplands, you pay up front prior to seeing the girl in person and there's a clearly stated no refund policy. As a result, they can bait and switch the hell out of you. I think I did about 6 soapland visits here. Happiness soapland in Sapporo was amazing and I got 60 minutes mat play plus creampie for 40 k all in. Also had a good time at dolce in Yoshiwara for around the same money, but no BBFS there and both these girls wouldn't really kiss. The other soapie visits were just okay, and 1 or 2 were terrible. One store in Yokohama (nice lady iirc) really screwed me and gave me a gross fat chick for about 25 k. Most of the soaps I've been to range in price from 20 k-40 k. I don't really see the sense in doing a high class soap for over 70 k, sorta feels like a tourist trap. That's NY money, and I'the rather spend it in NY where I have more control and won't get fucked over just for being a foreigner with no Japanese. Will try one of these high ends soaps (probably opera / versailles) before I leave but honestly, for the money spent (about $600) I expect to be disappointed. I also did delivery health in Sapporo with an agency called college girl kiss, but the girl was terrible. Total bait and switch. She was probably early 30's and overweight when I was expecting a hot college girl. I cancelled and got a partial 10 k refund of the 34 k I spent on her. Didn't even want to play with her when I saw her in person. It was that bad, and I had to fight like hell just to get that small partial refund from the agency.
(4) Big wins in Kabuki: Honestly I've probably had the most fun here with the tachinbo in Kabukicho. Rates vary between 10 k-40 k and you actually get to see the girl first, negotiate and feel her out before the money is exchanged. If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, you don't want there to be a middle man like a soapland, because the middle man will fuck you over. Better to be able to negotiate directly with the girl. Okubo park is the notorious hot spot for these chicks but you can find them all over Kabukicho working to feed their host club addictions. Some of the girls are real shit attitude and want a lot of money, but there are also gems. You need to negotiate everything up front before you take them back to the room, that way you know what you're getting. It does take some practice, and some luck. Met one girl here who was only 19, super shy / submissive and I creampied her for 30 k. Another girl I found here was half Filipina half Japanese and I fucked her twice with creampie plus she stayed overnight all for just 20 k. The good girls usually get picked up quick, but sometimes you can hit a home run here and a find a nice fresh young cutie for a good price. Service is a mixed bag, but then again, it is at the Soaplands too. At least here you have some control over what kind of quality and service you're getting.
Anyhow, that's my 2 cents so far on mongering in Japan. I've had way better experiences in NYC overall. Had a few very memorable girls in Kabukicho plus that soapland chick in Sapporo, but overall I've found NY had consistently hotter girls with better service. I tend to agree with other posters that Japan is nice for things you can't get in NY like oppai bars, mat play / nuru massage and weird fetish shit like harassment shops. However, if you're just interested in some hot Japanese GFE action, FS and maybe some extras like BBFS and video, NYC is king.
MassageLover81
09-05-24, 09:38
I've dated one girl and on hour 4th tour she stuck with the better shop -
tWhat was is like dating one of these girls?
Was the sex even better than the regular "service"?
Are they trying to find a rich guy to marry or support them?
So I see a lot of debate here about US J-girls vs. Japan. I have been in Tokyo for around a week now and also did 4 days in Sapporo. I'm pretty active in NYC for the last 2 years and am I frequent poster on the local review boards. I only started doing this shit post-covid and after Japanese hoes had started to dominate the NYC sex market. As a white guy with very limited Japanese, my takeaway from this trip so far has been that NYC is absolutely better than Japan for FS with hot young Japanese chicks. I will try and bullet point this:
(1) Quality: I'm realizing now that we get some really hot girls in NYC. The Japanese agents send us good shit. They are not wasting overseas flights and rooms on ugly girls. Plus they make a commission off these girls. If the agents send hot young girls who get lots of bookings, well then everybody makes more money for it. We even get some hot young girls and JAV stars who only work overseas. I've met a number of J-girls like this now. It's a combination of the money overseas being so much better and the fact that some girls would rather not service Japanese customers. I fucked hot AV girls in NY like Rin Asahi, Ayase Kokoro and Yume Ayakawa plus many other hot young ones who are overseas only girls. A lot of high quality J-pussies apparently don't work in Japan...So I think most guys reading this forum are already aware of this, but I'll mention it anyways, and meant to include it in my original post. As a foreigner with no Japanese, you will not have access the full roster at Soaplands. Many of the Soaplands I visited only offered 1, maybe 2 girls to foreigners who can't speak Japanese. In my limited experience, if a soap only offers you one girl, you should probably walk. The pictures are never accurate and you won't really know what you're getting until you see the girl in person. Dolce in Yoshiwara was one of the few spots that actually gave me a roster of 5-8 girls to choose from. The Soapland in Sapporo that I visited wouldn't let me choose the girl as a foreigner, but management asked what my preferences were and did a pretty damn good job of accommodating. In my case, they gave me a mid 20's slim girl with cute face and good tits and ass, so I was quite happy. Most of the other soaps did not give me hot young girls to choose from though. Obviously there are no barriers like this in NYC. You can book whichever J-girls you want, as long as they're working / available of course.
CCRider1008
09-05-24, 14:17
So I see a lot of debate here about US J-girls vs. Japan. I have been in Tokyo for around a week now and also did 4 days in Sapporo.
(2) Service: If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, service is better in the USA IMO. The girls are much friendlier and often have some English.
(3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. Also had a good time at dolce in Yoshiwara for around the same money, but no BBFS there and both these girls wouldn't really kiss. The other soapie visits were just okay, and 1 or 2 were terrible.
One store in Yokohama (nice lady iirc) really screwed me and gave me a gross fat chick for about 25 k.
(4) Big wins in Kabuki: Honestly I've probably had the most fun here with the tachinbo in Kabukicho. Rates vary between 10 k-40 k and you actually get to see the girl first, negotiate and feel her out before the money is exchanged..I've never seen so many differing opinions on a mongering location in Asia than in Japan. SE Asia has had relative consensus. Thailand is great; Bali pretty good; Vietnam not so good; Cambodia okay depending on where. I've never been to Korea so can't opine. Japan it's all over the board. As a potential first time visitor it's starting to feel like more of a tourist sightseeing trip than a punter trip. Which is fine -- just trying to set my expectations correctly.
Couple clarifying questions for you.
1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?
2. Do you remember the names of the 1-2 terrible soapies in Tokyo?
3. Street hookers. Are they easy to spot in Japan as in other places, or does it take more work to ID them? I understood this was not a very big part of the P4P scene in Tokyo. How does one spot whether they have a middle man or not. Like you I would not have a lot of tolerance for that BS.
4. What hotel did you stay at in Shinjuko? Any problems with front desk or hotel with brining the girls to your room?
5. Did you partake in escort web services (delivery health)? How was that experience?
Traveler X
09-05-24, 17:37
(3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. I've lost count of how many times I walked on a girl in NY because I didn't like what I saw in person. In Japan, you can't do this, and they don't offer lineups.Thanks for chiming in, very illuminating. I have the same experiences with the service gap.
I want to add one hidden advantage unrelated to the girls or shops. In the US the NYC/LA boards are quite active on comparing notes on girls and there are reviewers who are spot on in their reviews. That's part of what is weeding out the mid girls, they don't usually bother coming in the first place. So I know a girl's height boob size, cute or not, service level before I walk in, and it quite often matches to a T. I literally just saw a jgirl they recommended and she was amazing, exactly as described. Just reviewed her myself.
In Japan I've done the research and the shop itself will offer a message board but since the shop moderates it it is full of simp messages thanking the girl and telling her she's wonderful. You don't have a community or objective reviewing of the girl and her looks, people know that would be too rude for the shop board. There are independent boards but they are weak and just not the same, though I have used them and they are better than nothing.
Of course it bears repeating that if you are already in the US, you probably speak English. You probably don't speak Japanese. So coming to Japan is fun and a novelty but there is a hard barrier for some services and shops (but not others). We are here to help with that. I'll say again Japan is really fun with unique shops that are poorly imitated elsewhere, just know what you are looking for. I notice some guys just want anywhere from a maid cafe to a mid-level naughtiness like fetish club or oppai pub. Do your thing.
1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?
Sometimes there is something detailed or complicated I want to say right so I or her will use the translator. You don't want to interrupt action so I usually do it before the action or during break, especially if it involves a specific request. When I went to soap the girl often asked me what kind of experience I'm looking for. I said straight up I want to be like in those JAV with soap mattress, bathtub sucking, then worship me in bed like a king. And she did just that. Tongue play, balls licking, deepthroat attempts without me asking, lots of tongue play by body language alone, no Japanese needed for that. Does help to explain 69 and doggy but in a pinch you can do that with hand signals too. She asked me if I wanted to exchange LINE afterwards. I usually refuse unless I'm set on seeing a girl again, so I politely say she was great but I'll be out of town soon anyways. The girls share their bodies with us, treat them right.
As a foreigner with no Japanese, you will not have access the full roster at Soaplands. Many of the Soaplands I visited only offered 1, maybe 2 girls to foreigners who can't speak Japanese. In my limited experience, if a soap only offers you one girl, you should probably walk. The pictures are never accurate and you won't really know what you're getting until you see the girl in person. Dolce in Yoshiwara was one of the few spots that actually gave me a roster of 5-8 girls to choose from.First, I've read a lot of your reviews of J-girls in NY on the AmpR board, so it's good to see you posting from Japan itself. Thanks for your reports. To your comments about Soaplands, no doubt your advice is good and your experiences typical in many cases, but not, as you note yourself, universally so. I went to a couple Soapland places on consecutive nights in Fukuoka. The experience on the first night was pretty bad; I went to a random place I picked because a dude outside waved me in, the pictures he showed me were blatantly fake, the girl wasn't friendly, blah. But the second night I went to the place I had been specifically looking for in the first place. I selected the hottest looking girl from the several pictures shown, the pics were accurate, young 20's girl with a slender body, passionate GFE service, a great time. So you never know.
Are you going to Osaka on this trip? If not, you can stop reading, but if so, I hope you are planning to check out one of the Shinchi's, which are "restaurant associations" that exploit a loophole to offer FS just as the Soaplands do. With the Soaps, the loophole is that they are providing a bathing service and the sex that follows is incidental. At the Shinchi's, the loophole is that the girl you go up to the room with is a waitress who provides a little cup of tea and perhaps a tiny packet of peanuts, and during that service she develops feelings that lead to FS.
The most famous Shinchi is Tobita. It's the biggest and there are gorgeous girls there, some of whom will accept foreigners. They sit in open-air rooms so you can see the actual girls before selecting. The mms will wave to you if you are acceptable; they will just ignore you if not. Tobita Shinchi is probably your best bet to get FS from a beautiful Japanese girl, possibly much prettier than the typical J-girl who makes it to Manhattan. The service, however will probably be much worse. My one time at Tobita, the girl was really hot, but no GFE of any kind, just CFS with zero affection. The walking around the several streets of Tobita and window shopping was almost as much fun as the deed itself. Tobita is recommended for the overall experience at least once IF you can stomach non-GFE CFS (but maybe with a very hot girl). Oh, and there was no shower at the place I went, I think that's the norm at Tobita.
I think there are five Schinchi's in all, but aside from Tobita I have only been to the second-biggest, the Matsushima Shinchi. My first time there I got really lucky. The girl I picked (and was allowed to pick) was young and pretty. Matsushima places do have showers, so I was clean for the service. This girl was very GFE; passionate DFK 69 with BBBJ / DATY, then CFS. I wish I had grabbed a card or somehow noted which place it was, because I couldn't remember when I went back the following year. Second visit was more like a Tobita experience, except cheaper and with a shower. The girl I picked was young and hot but the service was non-GFE. Still, an orgasm with a hot Japanese girl was achieved, so it wasn't so bad.
I've had a number of other experiences in Osaka, too many to detail now, especially given that this is the Tokyo board. But I will say that no Delivery Health girl in Osaka ever said no to FS with me in the love hotel room; it was CFS with the younger girls (who were comparable with the J-girls I've seen in NY) and BBFSCIP with the older ones.
If you spend any time in Kyoto, I went to a pink salon there that let me in. I'm a white guy with zero Japanese language skills, BTW. I might have typed up a message using Google translate that I had been to other pink salons and understood the rules, I can't completely remember, but I was admitted. The girl looked like a 18-22 year old, her schoolgirl outfit might helped shave some years off of her real age. BBBJCIM. This is the place: https://www.n-cats.com/top I don't think anyone goes to Kyoto specifically for hobbying, but there are options if you're there for cultural reasons.
If you have any questions, feel free to respond here or message me on AmpR, same screen name.
Traveler X
09-06-24, 04:42
What was is like dating one of these girls?
Was the sex even better than the regular "service"?
Are they trying to find a rich guy to marry or support them?No, I do my thing and nobody would understand it. I just like to date them, that's my only goal after I'm done with them sexually. There is zero possibility of a future relationship and I make that clear from the start. Every girl is so different I can't answer any of your questions in general, just for the girls I date.
Do not get romantic feelings for a jgirl. I learned long ago not to do it that way. I date them the same way I see them at a shop. One visit at a time. Then it's goodbye, maybe next time or maybe not. Always do it that way.
If I like a girl I will bang her over and over again at the shop until I'm done with her sexually. With jgirls that means the videos and photos I want, all the acts I want more or less. Then if her personality vibes and she is a good person I can trust, I ask her out. She is a hot girl I just banged, and that makes a fun day or night out even better. There is no sexual tension, most of my dates are the day after banging so the pressure is off and there is no drama. We just do whatever we want next. I take her to the beach and have lunch and ice cream, to the strip club and watch her touch my favorite strippers all over, go hiking. Whatever we want.
There is spontaneous skinship and sometimes kissing in the middle or the end, but I'm not looking for that it just happens. Keep in mind we recently had a lot of sex, I'm sexually spent and not going to be interested for a while. I planned it this way, I hate drama with women. And what I want is I want to go out, so if she is down we do. It is so convenient.
I used to take girls out backwards, go on dates with them like that and hope we maybe bang. Fuck that.
Here is what I wrote about my 2nd date with a kgirl, I took her to the strip club and wrote:
"I took a kgirl out on a date there and all of you guys stared at her instead of the dancers. Then I got a couples dance with her where I watched that kgirl that I just double-fucked put her hands all over a dancer I liked, exploring her sexuality. A tear to my eye at the beauty, a treasured memory I will hold dear. Then we got tacos at the stand outside and she said I was the best tour guide she's had. Our next date was even better."
She had told me she once went to a gay club in Korea so this was my chance to see with my own eyes how far that would go. It is personally meaningful to me and special. I've spent decades focusing on my own sexual needs, I want to spend a little time helping my sexy friend explore hers. It makes me genuinely happy, to me this kgirl has done more for me than 99% of women I've met so this is a no-brain-er gift I'm giving her that night. I don't really care what others think of it, you do your thing right.
If it's been a few months or a year, I get curious and if they work at the shop again I book them and surprise them. One is a student so I sure am not going to wait for her roommate to go to class before sneaking in, which isn't even allowed anyways. And for another she lived at the shop while on tour so I visit her then usually as her first appointment of the tour. Get that out of the way. We then do a hike the next morning and get her back working after lunch. She is adventurous so ironically one of the few people I can share hiking with. I normally would have to hike alone. This pacing also helps her not to build up stress. I want her to make her goal.
I guess the "after sex" was better but only because we continued where we left off last time. It would have been the same had I not dated them. They are not going to have some secret menu they are saving for just me, when a girl works she has her routine, her mentality, and I am not one to try and shake things up. But I'll try face fucking with the kgirl and since we vibe she gives good feedback and we have fun with it and I can know her limit. There's that added trust. But I think I would have gotten that still just by seeing a girl at the shop on repeats anyways.
I made it clear from the very start that I am just having a fun day with them and don't want a relationship other than friendship. They did not look for me, I found and picked them. They were not looking for a man or a sponsor, they know I am only offering fun. I do talk with them sometimes and give them comfort and help them move on past a life problem, but that's not hard to do as a friend. I'd do that for a total stranger. I do all the time, that's why I post guides on forums. Even after I die people will still be following the bread crumbs I left for them to follow.
In two cases the girls are so young they can't even think about marriage or anything. They are figuring out their lives. One still has no idea. But that's okay, we still had fun. That was this morning. She is so wild on her off-work days I am lucky I am not her boyfriend. I drop her off better than she started, we both feel great, and I move on. She might come back in a few months or a year, she'll let me know.
Edit: She just sent me bikini selfies. This part is harmless, but her next message is "Where are you?" Do not engage in this scenario. Do not. I will wish her a happy time back to her life in Japan instead.
Does help to explain 69 and doggy but in a pinch you can do that with hand signals too. .But 69 in Japanese is "sixty nine. " And doggy style in Japanese is "doggu sutairu. " They basically use the same words for these that we do.
Traveler X
09-06-24, 17:31
But 69 in Japanese is "sixty nine. " And doggy style in Japanese is "doggu sutairu. " They basically use the same words for these that we do.See at the start I did not even know that, so I used the hand signal method. I know they say doggy, but I did not know they just say 69. All these years, no ex-girlfriend taught me anything. I once got slapped by an ex just for covering the ten-ten on mango. So you can see why my dirty talk is extremely limited, they taught me zero words. I learned everything dirty from JAV and don't really hear 69 there. They just do it.
So you're telling me I wasted my time giving full sentence explanations of what 69 was. "My mouth on your pussy and your mouth on my cock" I know I said that perfectly right but they sometimes have to process it.
Another common confusion is in the US I want a girl to ride me. Again, no idea how to even say that I just describe it. So I used to always say "Sit on me" in Japanese but every time they would sit their pussy and ass on my face! So now I say okay you are going to sit on me but make sure my dick goes in your pussy. High IQ girls get it within a second, I've had some girls sit and ponder before I pull them into position.
How do you ask a girl to ride you? I've had exes pretend not to know but I could at least ask in English. I watch a ton of jdrama and anime and no, they just never say it.
I'm not an expert. But as far as I know they call it "horse riding" but use Japanese words. It sounds like "key joe" and the letter "E" in English. So you could say "key joe ee kudusai". The 3 Kanji that make this sound look like "horse" "ride" "position".
I've never seen so many differing opinions on a mongering location in Asia than in Japan. SE Asia has had relative consensus. Thailand is great; Bali pretty good; Vietnam not so good; Cambodia okay depending on where. I've never been to Korea so can't opine. Japan it's all over the board. As a potential first time visitor it's starting to feel like more of a tourist sightseeing trip than a punter trip. Which is fine -- just trying to set my expectations correctly.
Couple clarifying questions for you.
1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?
2. Do you remember the names of the 1-2 terrible soapies in Tokyo?
3. Street hookers. Are they easy to spot in Japan as in other places, or does it take more work to ID them? I understood this was not a very big part of the P4P scene in Tokyo. How does one spot whether they have a middle man or not. Like you I would not have a lot of tolerance for that BS.
4. What hotel did you stay at in Shinjuko? Any problems with front desk or hotel with brining the girls to your room?
5. Did you partake in escort web services (delivery health)? How was that experience?So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1#post2941066.
Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.
As for your questions:
1. The girls have been good overall but as I said, both looks and service are better for NY J-girls. I don't have any real issues using translator app. I will say though that Japanese language ability is almost treated as a kind of loyalty test out here. Doors will open if you can speak the language, and people will treat you much differently. You will be able to fuck way better girls at the stores if you're fluent. Not many English speakers in Japan, which was unexpected for me. Shibuya and Shinjuku is like 50% hot women but you can't talk to any of them English. Feels bad man. I tried to pick up some of the language for this trip but it's just so damn hard / time consuming. And unfortunately, I think Japanese is a dying language in a sense given current state of affairs with the shrinking population and imploding economy. The main reason to learn it is the women LOL. Seems like a bad idea to relocate to Japan and work twice as hard to make less than half of what one would earn each year in the USA You would probably be better served spending your time learning Spanish or Mandarin. But I digress.
2. One was nice lady in Yokohama. I don't remember the other one. Again, my general rule of thumb here is that if the store only gives me one girl to choose from, I walk out. You're gambling on that one girl being good and the odds are against you. She's probably older and not busy compared to the other girls, and this is why she is being offered up to foreigners.
3. Kabukicho is the best place is the country for tachinbo (street girls). The place is like host club paradise for the girls. And where there are hosts, there are working girls. You can usually spot the working girls based on their attire, typically short skirt and high heels. But also look at what they're doing. If a girl is just standing on the side of the street on her phone for a long time, she's probably working, waiting for a customer. You can also just go up to a girl and ask if she's playing. This is done all the time in kabukicho. You will see local guys just walk up and proposition hot young girls in the area. It normal here and girls will not get offended generally speaking. Some will just ignore you. Otherwise will apologize and tell you that they are not a working girl LOL. These ladies don't have middle men afaik.
4. I stayed at the granbell hotel and I was bringing girls back every night. They don't give a shit. Just make sure you register for two guests. Or simply use the side entrance, as I did. I would not recommend getting a love hotel in the area, unless you have to. They usually have crappy rooms that stink of cigarettes. And some love hotels will try to charge you extra if you bring multiple girls back. A regular hotel in Shinjuku is much better, just make sure it's inside Kabukicho, as the girls won't be willing to walk more than 10-15 minutes.
5. I only did delivery once in Sapporo and it was awful. I think I mentioned this in my original post. I used an agency called college girl kiss and they bait and switched me with chubby 30's girl. Spent 34 k, tried to cancel and get a 10 k refund when I saw the girl. Maybe I should've checked the pics and reviews more carefully, but as someone else mentioned, reviews are not very helpful in Japan since the agency controls the board and will just delete any bad feedback. I heard that Delice is very good for DH in Shinjuku and club valentine is very good for Osaka. But I've yet to try either myself.
I've never noticed such a claim of full service on a soapland website, but I've also not noticed on such sites that "production" or "the actual act" -- euphemisms for vaginal intercourse -- are forbidden.
Such notices ARE included on the websites of delivery health / etc. Shops. For example, on that Robot Deliheru site it says:
"It is forbidden (by the law) to require or force the girls to act in real performance. ".
But on that Soapland Barubola Marin site, there is no mention of the full service euphemisms on the prohibited list. It's like the dog that didn't bark in the Sherlock Holmes story.
More than once the phrase "this is not a sex shop" was uttered to me in Japan in fashion health places, so it was slightly jarring when I heard "this is a sex shop" when I entered a soapland in Fukuoka.
So yes, soapland places (or restaurant association places in Osaka) will not explicitly advertise full service but, as the saying goes, if you know, you know.LOL this one of those werid lost in translation things. Soaplands are bath house not sexual business. It makes zero sense but that's what there classified as. But yet they are pretty much full services brothels.
Show me on any fast food restaurant website where they say they sell garbage food that makes you fat and unhealthy.
Yet that is exactly true.
And every soapland in Japan is full service even if there isn't a sign on the door that says "fuck pussy inside".Actually not comparable at all. According to their business license they are not a sexually service business they are a bath house for taking baths. Where as delivery health and pink salons are sexual service business license. This was from a friend who works at one. They can get in trouble if the customer doesn't take a bath. She even told me they have inspectors who come round from time to time and check soap house as "customers" (man would love that job.) if they don't get a bath they come back and raid it for prostitution. Itried to rationalize it with the girl cause saying how does the bath make it any different a sexual business but basically everyone looks the other way an ignores it.
As far as I know they have never participated on TAG. The moderators were alarmed at the amount of positive reviews being posted about the service by new users when they first started and came to the conclusion that they were all "fake" reviews. Why would they need to sabotage other businesses when they have a huge market share jeopardizing their future?
It seems ridiculous for an independent forum to be moderated in this manner without any outside business interests.So ask yourself this is it odd that their the only business group is banned on the forum. If they don't have any issues and they are the best there is. Why is there's the only business group banned on the forum. I have yet to see any other shop be banned they way they have. That alone is telling to me. As far I know the forum hasn't moderated any other shop the way they have been moderated that group. Yes they were actively on there and on here LOL they actively monitor this forum hell if you pay close enough attention on here you'll see girlfriend and hentai add banner. Also at the time of the ban they did not have a huge market share they were just starting out. They were just begining and trying get into market share.
Actually not comparable at all. According to their business license they are not a sexually service business they are a bath house for taking baths. Where as delivery health and pink salons are sexual service business license. This was from a friend who works at one. They can get in trouble if the customer doesn't take a bath. She even told me they have inspectors who come round from time to time and check soap house as "customers" (man would love that job.) if they don't get a bath they come back and raid it for prostitution. Itried to rationalize it with the girl cause saying how does the bath make it any different a sexual business but basically everyone looks the other way an ignores it.I don't know what you're going on about, and really I don't care. The point is that all soaplands do full service, and everyone that goes to a soapland knows they do full service. That is all. Carry on.
CCRider1008
09-07-24, 22:45
So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1#post2941066.
Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.
myself.Much appreciated JP. Trip will include 6 days in Phuket and 6 days BKK (6th time) before Japan. Being a white guy from the USA only knowing "Hello, "you are very beautiful" etc. In Japanese I'll be at disadvantage. But Japan is a sightseeing trip first anyway. I'll take best advice from this forum, smile, show respect and hope for the best. Always wanted to see the country anyway.
Pegasus887
09-09-24, 02:08
So ask yourself this is it odd that their the only business group is banned on the forum. If they don't have any issues and they are the best there is. Why is there's the only business group banned on the forum. I have yet to see any other shop be banned they way they have. That alone is telling to me. As far I know the forum hasn't moderated any other shop the way they have been moderated that group. Yes they were actively on there and on here LOL they actively monitor this forum hell if you pay close enough attention on here you'll see girlfriend and hentai add banner. Also at the time of the ban they did not have a huge market share they were just starting out. They were just begining and trying get into market share.They are not the only place banned on the forum, Nasty dolls who were direct competitors to Asian Mystique were also banned before THC. Geisha eyes, around 2012 to name another. All the other Japanese shops doing the same type of business are blacklisted if you haven't noticed. This includes several Japanese independents who relied on TAG for clients that called out Chris (Sudsy / TAG Manager) on a big post before they started charging them to "post" on the site.
I've had way better experiences in NYC overall. Had a few very memorable girls in Kabukicho plus that soapland chick in Sapporo, but overall I've found NY had consistently hotter girls with better service. I tend to agree with other posters that Japan is nice for things you can't get in NY like oppai bars, mat play / nuru massage and weird fetish shit like harassment shops. However, if you're just interested in some hot Japanese GFE action, FS and maybe some extras like BBFS and video, NYC is king.Hi JPLove, can you hook me up with the scene in NYC. I live on the East coast but don't know any way to monger here in the US. My experience is always in Asia. A long weekend to NYC would make departure from Asia fuckation back to US more tolerable until one year later. Thanks!
Hi JPLove, can you hook me up with the scene in NYC. I live on the East coast but don't know any way to monger here in the US. My experience is always in Asia. A long weekend to NYC would make departure from Asia fuckation back to US more tolerable until one year later. Thanks!There is a small but friendly little community of NYC-based mongers (plus out of town enthusiasts) who are dedicated to banging as many J-girl visitors as they can. They gather on the USA version of this very website. I recommend reading back as many pages as you can and then following along and soon you will get the hang of all their lingo and know about all the best spots for J-girls in Manhattan. Reports very often include links to the shops' websites, so most of your basic questions will be answered just by reading.
Pro-tip: if they refer to a girl going to "Falashing" they actually mean Flushing.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan
Looking for something new, I tried a place called "Tokyo Amateur Escort. ".
https://amateurtokyo.com
Website is in English. Guy I talked to spoke English too. So it was simple to set up.
I had a girl named Chisato Sakashita: https://amateurtokyo.com/%e5%9d%82%e4%b8%8b%e3%81%a1%e3%81%95%e3%81%a8/.
Her picture was obviously edited, but honestly not by much. I was pretty surprised when I met her in Shibuya.
21 years old. Looked to be accurate. Very pretty, nice skin, great figure, a little timid. Probably because I'm an older foreigner! But she was friendly and willing.
Fun sized with nice little tits. Like my brother always says, "a handful is enough. ".
Chisato can speak just enough English to get by. Google translate did the rest.
The price was agreed upon in advance. 17,000 Yen for 50 min + 2,000 Yen admission + 2,000 Yen for picking my own girl.
I also paid 10,000 directly to her for "AF". Once I saw her naked, I was thinking man I could really enjoy getting in that tight little butt hole. Ended up getting in the other hole instead, but that was even better.
Her blowjob matches her timid spirit. She gave a pretty good handjob though when I was sucking on those little pink nips. She was responsive and wet when I dined at the why too. Maybe that's why she let me slip it in?
Whatever the reason I lucked out on this one. Sometimes you try a new place and it's a total bust. I got more than I bargained for with Chisato. Definitely one of the prettier girls I've booked in Tokyo and more mileage than I usually get too.
There is a small but friendly little community of NYC-based mongers (plus out of town enthusiasts) who are dedicated to banging as many J-girl visitors as they can. They gather on the USA version of this very website. I recommend reading back as many pages as you can and then following along and soon you will get the hang of all their lingo and know about all the best spots for J-girls in Manhattan. Reports very often include links to the shops' websites, so most of your basic questions will be answered just by reading.
Pro-tip: if they refer to a girl going to "Falashing" they actually mean Flushing.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-ManhattanThank you so much for the info. I will RTFF! I a little scare mongering in the states because big bro always watching. I fear they even trick you and catch you in the act. That's why I always travel oversea instead of our own country.
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Didier5810
09-11-24, 12:25
Looking for something new, I tried a place called "Tokyo Amateur Escort. ".
https://amateurtokyo.com
Website is in English. Guy I talked to spoke English too. So it was simple to set up.
I had a girl named Chisato Sakashita: https://amateurtokyo.com/%e5%9d%82%e4%b8%8b%e3%81%a1%e3%81%95%e3%81%a8/.
Her picture was obviously edited, but honestly not by much. I was pretty surprised when I met her in Shibuya.
21 years old. Looked to be accurate. Very pretty, nice skin, great figure, a little timid. Probably because I'm an older foreigner! But she was friendly and willing.
Fun sized with nice little tits. Like my brother always says, "a handful is enough. ".
Chisato can speak just enough English to get by. Google translate did the rest.
The price was agreed upon in advance. 17,000 Yen for 50 min + 2,000 Yen admission + 2,000 Yen for picking my own girl.
I also paid 10,000 directly to her for "AF". Once I saw her naked, I was thinking man I could really enjoy getting in that tight little butt hole. Ended up getting in the other hole instead, but that was even better.
Her blowjob matches her timid spirit. She gave a pretty good handjob though when I was sucking on those little pink nips. She was responsive and wet when I dined at the why too. Maybe that's why she let me slip it in?
Whatever the reason I lucked out on this one. Sometimes you try a new place and it's a total bust. I got more than I bargained for with Chisato. Definitely one of the prettier girls I've booked in Tokyo and more mileage than I usually get too.Have you done intercourse with the girl please?
Karikamiya
09-11-24, 12:38
Have you done intercourse with the girl please?Did you even read his post?
How well do dating apps like bumble, tinder work in Japan? Would it be possible to score a good chick via dating app?
How well do dating apps like bumble, tinder work in Japan? Would it be possible to score a good chick via dating app?Japanese people mainly use local apps like Dine.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dating.dine.dine&hl=en_US&pli=1
Tinder is terrible in Tokyo. Bumble only slightly better.
If you're a tourist, it's going to be very difficult no matter the app.
So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1#post2941066.
Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.
As for your questions:
1. The girls have been good overall but as I said, both looks and service are better for NY J-girls. I don't have any real issues using translator app. I will say though that Japanese language ability is almost treated as a kind of loyalty test out here. Doors will open if you can speak the language, and people will treat you much differently. You will be able to fuck way better girls at the stores if you're fluent. Not many English speakers in Japan, which was unexpected for me. Shibuya and Shinjuku is like 50% hot women but you can't talk to any of them English. Feels bad man. I tried to pick up some of the language for this trip but it's just so damn hard / time consuming. And unfortunately, I think Japanese is a dying language in a sense given current state of affairs with the shrinking population and imploding economy. The main reason to learn it is the women LOL. Seems like a bad idea to relocate to Japan and work twice as hard to make less than half of what one would earn each year in the USA You would probably be better served spending your time learning Spanish or Mandarin. But I digress.
2. One was nice lady in Yokohama. I don't remember the other one. Again, my general rule of thumb here is that if the store only gives me one girl to choose from, I walk out. You're gambling on that one girl being good and the odds are against you. She's probably older and not busy compared to the other girls, and this is why she is being offered up to foreigners.
3. Kabukicho is the best place is the country for tachinbo (street girls). The place is like host club paradise for the girls. And where there are hosts, there are working girls. You can usually spot the working girls based on their attire, typically short skirt and high heels. But also look at what they're doing. If a girl is just standing on the side of the street on her phone for a long time, she's probably working, waiting for a customer. You can also just go up to a girl and ask if she's playing. This is done all the time in kabukicho. You will see local guys just walk up and proposition hot young girls in the area. It normal here and girls will not get offended generally speaking. Some will just ignore you. Otherwise will apologize and tell you that they are not a working girl LOL. These ladies don't have middle men afaik.
4. I stayed at the granbell hotel and I was bringing girls back every night. They don't give a shit. Just make sure you register for two guests. Or simply use the side entrance, as I did. I would not recommend getting a love hotel in the area, unless you have to. They usually have crappy rooms that stink of cigarettes. And some love hotels will try to charge you extra if you bring multiple girls back. A regular hotel in Shinjuku is much better, just make sure it's inside Kabukicho, as the girls won't be willing to walk more than 10-15 minutes.
5. I only did delivery once in Sapporo and it was awful. I think I mentioned this in my original post. I used an agency called college girl kiss and they bait and switched me with chubby 30's girl. Spent 34 k, tried to cancel and get a 10 k refund when I saw the girl. Maybe I should've checked the pics and reviews more carefully, but as someone else mentioned, reviews are not very helpful in Japan since the agency controls the board and will just delete any bad feedback. I heard that Delice is very good for DH in Shinjuku and club valentine is very good for Osaka. But I've yet to try either myself.I'm coming to Japan in April 2025, I'm a monger from Orange County California. I'm looking forward to sampling some of the beautiful Japanese women.
I just tried Miri at THC. Very cute / petite / short girl. If you're into the short and small look she'd be right up your alley. I like variation so I was pretty pleased with what I saw. She looks more or less like her pics if you can see through the filters they use.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2573
Small tits and small ass, but it looks right on her small body. Very good girl over all.
English level was low. BJ level was high. Nice sloppy BBBJCIM for the first short. I paid for the "instant blowjob" so she dropped to her knees and sucked me off right after we go in the room.
Showered together and with a little time left we went for another round. I usually end with one shot but I had time to blow and soaping up her tight little body got me horny again. Precisely it was tight little butt hole. I washed it thoroughly and made it squeaky clean.
Second round was lots of kissing and touching. Got her in 69 position and since she was so much shorter I was able to stare at her little buckeye while she went back to slobbing on my knob. She got even wetter and more enthusiastic with it this time. Finally shot right into her mouth with time running out. I felt like Larry Bird at the buzzer.
Definitely a good experience, and probably the best BBBJCIM I've had at THC.
Traveler X
09-21-24, 10:32
I'm coming to Japan in April 2025, I'm a monger from Orange County California. I'm looking forward to sampling some of the beautiful Japanese women.Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
Shop types
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.
Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.
Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.
BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).
Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.
Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.
Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.
There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.
These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.
Related guides
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559 My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688 Oppai pubs.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714 Oppai pubs.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852&viewfull=1#post6992852 Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099 More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933352#post2933352 FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2932207&viewfull=1#post2932207 FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621 Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.
Fun in Tokyo region
If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.
Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.
Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.
For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.
With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.
Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.
The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.
Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.
2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.
Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.
The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).
At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).
One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.
Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.
Good to be king
Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.
FilthyBeaver
09-21-24, 11:44
This is a report of distinction. Thank you mate.
Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
Shop types
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.
Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.
Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.
BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).
Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.
Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.
Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.
There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.
These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.
Related guides
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559 My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688 Oppai pubs.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714 Oppai pubs.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852&viewfull=1#post6992852 Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099 More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933352#post2933352 FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2932207&viewfull=1#post2932207 FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621 Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.
Fun in Tokyo region
If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.
Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.
Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.
For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.
With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.
Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.
The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.
Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.
2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.
Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.
The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).
At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).
One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.
Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.
Good to be king
Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.
Steve 9696
09-21-24, 14:15
Thank you traveler X for the best and most comprehensive post in the Tokyo thread. Maybe best post ever. Just really deep and comprehensive and detailed. Thanks!
ElChangito
09-22-24, 17:59
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.Hi thank you very much for your precious post! I really appreciated!
I have one question about Tachinbo.
I find surprising if you just approach and ask for FS and price.
How much is it for FS with Tachinbo? They speak English?
I just like the fact of walking around a city saw a pretty girl, tachinbo, and ask for service. Look very nice thing to do.
I news in this world and I would like one day go in Tokyo with all info in mind for don't loss time.
Joe Karnavic
09-22-24, 18:46
Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
Shop types
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.Excellent and Comprehensive report on mongering in Tokyo / Japan. I wish I knew all those shops when I visited last time. I have recommended it for ROD (Report of Distinction).
Traveler X
09-22-24, 19:58
I have one question about Tachinbo.
I find surprising if you just approach and ask for FS and price.
How much is it for FS with Tachinbo? They speak English?
I just like the fact of walking around a city saw a pretty girl, tachinbo, and ask for service. Look very nice thing to do.So I will refer you to JPLove's comments on this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2942958&viewfull=1#post2942958
There are a lot of kinds of women and strategies so no way to answer your question. In Okubo Park it was mostly Japanese, so I would not speak English with them. But in other cities I saw many Thai women and they did speak English. If you are just starting out, maybe in this example the thai women are a good start. You cannot expect to leapfrog to the final result without any Japanese ability, but your own experiences will help you again in the future.
This hobby is not beginner friendly, but I have left breadcrumbs on how I did it. My first trip to Japan I had 3 months of Japanese so maybe 90% of shops refused me. But oppai pubs let me in. A later trip I was able to get into fetish clubs, but I spoke more Japanese, was very respectful in manner and appearance, I seemed safe, and clearly was able to follow instructions and not cause trouble. So I cannot just help anyone get in, not everyone should be let in. They were taking a chance on me.
Girls bars also let me in with about 1-2 years Japanese, even though hostess clubs did not. I lucked out with some very cute girls, I still remember some after 20 years. I also got into Hadaka no Ousama of all places, again a fetish club. One advantage of soapland is a place like Kira Kira is relatively foreigner friendly with minimal Japanese. Versus delivery health where in additional to Japanese you need to do some legwork, appointment, and coordination. But again, once you do something the first time it becomes easy future times.
Next, you have to have Japan internet and know some Japanese to see the official sites, since many block foreign IPs. This site lists some of them in English, so these are the sites that support it:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/
This particular list is at least somewhat foreigner friendly, with a lower range of minimum Japanese expected. I can't vouch for any particular shop but some are familiar and this is not too different from the Japanese list. But still limited. I see very few of my favorite shops, or at least I have to scroll very long since there are so many shops and the new ones are probably paying to be first on the list.
There is always a catch with specialty shops. Like the first link now is BBW. They specialize in mega huge tits. If all you really care about is humongous tits and the face and the rest can be just whatever, then sure. There's almost no catch, you'll get it. But most people understand that's her asset and not to expect a lot for the rest. Though there are always minimum standards and girls will at least look decent if not good. Check out their girls photos for an idea. I don't judge, do your thing.
There are other sites that specialize in schoolgirls or cosplay. Usually they will pick girls that suit the outfit and style. But once clothes come off she is probably just a normal petite girl. Nothing wrong with that, I have had some good experiences there but let's be realistic. The shop is upfront about what it specializes in, they are not promising a stunner or super young girl. Though it's possible.
Check out this example, the ad says "teens to 20's" which is kind of sus. But then look at their girls, you need to add another 5-15 years:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/kiwami_g/
I ignore age claims they may be true or clearly made up and off by 10+ years. Maybe what happened is they started out with 20 year olds at first and they all quit for better shops and got replaced. Nobody updated the ad. At least they are upfront with photos.
So for example I have bookmarks on some fetish sites, but have to turn on the VPN to see them. Like:
https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A1304/A130404/zenra-kakumei/system/
Some of my favorite shops have rebranded or closed since covid, like one fetish shop is clearly the same shop with similar concept just completely rebranded and adjusted in concept. Even after 20 years, it's still the same location and 80% the same system. We foreigners just scratch the surface and most people don't post reports, so my overview is just to help you get oriented to do your own adventure. I learned 80% of it myself. You will have to do some of the same.
Good day all. I've got an overnight layover in Narita coming up next week and hoping to get some ideas of things to do as I've never been to Japan besides for the airport on short layovers connecting to / from Thailand.
Flight lands around 5 pm and I fly out following day at 10:30 am. Thinking best option for this short of time might be to just book an airport hotel or in an area that's close and get a nice escort over? Priorities would be women and great sushi over travelling around trying to squeeze in some sight seeing.
I'm going to put in some time researching the forum but would appreciate any information / recommendations anyone is willing to share. TIA.
Good day all. I've got an overnight layover in Narita coming up next week and hoping to get some ideas of things to do as I've never been to Japan besides for the airport on short layovers connecting to / from Thailand.
Flight lands around 5 pm and I fly out following day at 10:30 am. Thinking best option for this short of time might be to just book an airport hotel or in an area that's close and get a nice escort over? Priorities would be women and great sushi over travelling around trying to squeeze in some sight seeing.
I'm going to put in some time researching the forum but would appreciate any information / recommendations anyone is willing to share. TIA.Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.
Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.Appreciate the reply as well as the advice. It is Narita airport I'll be flying in and out of.
Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.If time is an issue, he could just take a taxi. I usually taxi from either airport. It's really not so bad compared to other major cities pricewise. Sure beats riding on a train, or especially 2 trains IMHO.
Good day all. I've got an overnight layover in Narita coming up next week and hoping to get some ideas of things to do as I've never been to Japan besides for the airport on short layovers connecting to / from Thailand. Flight lands around 5 pm and I fly out following day at 10:30 am. Thinking best option for this short of time might be to just book an airport hotel or in an area that's close and get a nice escort over? Priorities would be women and great sushi over travelling around trying to squeeze in some sight seeing.I haven't attempted exactly what you're trying to do (in Japan at least), but here are some thoughts based on my limited experience:
I'm sure it's possible to get an incall escort from a delivery health service -- deriheru -- to a hotel close to the airport, but it could be difficult without Japanese language skills and / or someone recommending a specific service. Unless maybe your hotel concierge can help? There is a town called Narita which has plenty of sushi and ramen places, I just don't know about adult entertainment options. Looking at a map, the closest sizable city looks like Chiba City, which is about 35 minutes from Narita on the Narita Express, the same train you would take if you were going into Tokyo. I googled "soapland chiba Japan" and got several useful results.
Apparently Chiba City has an entertainment district not too far from the train station with around 150 adult businesses, including around 40 soaplands, some of which will accept foreigners. You can look at the google results yourself, they include a map which shows the cluster of soaplands and its proximity to the train station. Of course there are hotels near the train station too -- I noticed an APA Hotel Chiba Station Square on the map. Here are a few of the links which could be helpful:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/article/en/2296/
https://bestescortstokyo.com/496/
https://camikaze.cc/area/best-soapland-in-japan/#Best_Soapland_in_Chiba.
Just looking on google maps and searching for "sushi" there are many results in the train station area, some of them rated over 4 stars. I'm sure you could find a good one. Ditto ramen or whatever else you might want.
Of course you could skip Chiba City and stay on the Narita Express and ride it all the way into Tokyo, with stops at Tokya Main Station, on the east side of town, and Shibuya / Shinjuku, major entertainment districts. Of course there are a ton of options for fun in Tokyo, but it all might seem overwhelming as a first time visitor, maybe jet-lagged, and on a tight schedule. The schedule would be especially tight if you were going to try to go into Tokyo, have fun, and get back to the Narita area the same night. As opposed to Chiba City, you could spend the night there and just catch the Narita Express back to the airport in the morning or make a shorter trip back to a hotel even closer to Narita.
So, something close to the airport vs Chiba City vs Tokyo, you do have options, it just depends on how much time you're willing to spend on transportation and how much of an adventure you want to have.
If time is an issue, he could just take a taxi. I usually taxi from either airport. It's really not so bad compared to other major cities pricewise. Sure beats riding on a train, or especially 2 trains IMHO.Will cost you $250. Take the Narita Express.
Depends on the airport. If you are at Narita you can book the Narita express to take you from NRT to Shinjuku, stay there and there will be lots to do in terms of "take out", and delivery to your door would be free. If it's HND, it is a little more tricky (I. E. You need to change trains) to get to Tokyo.There are buses that take you straight to the hotel from either airport.
There are buses that take you straight to the hotel from either airport.Traffic might be a bit crap depending on the time of day. Personally I prefer the train, especially if you need to be back at the airport for check-in etc.
Will be heading to Japan again next week.
I haven't attempted exactly what you're trying to do (in Japan at least), but here are some thoughts based on my limited experience:
I'm sure it's possible to get an incall escort from a delivery health service -- deriheru -- to a hotel close to the airport, but it could be difficult without Japanese language skills and / or someone recommending a specific service. Unless maybe your hotel concierge can help? There is a town called Narita which has plenty of sushi and ramen places, I just don't know about adult entertainment options. Looking at a map, the closest sizable city looks like Chiba City, which is about 35 minutes from Narita on the Narita Express, the same train you would take if you were going into Tokyo. I googled "soapland chiba Japan" and got several useful results.
Apparently Chiba City has an entertainment district not too far from the train station with around 150 adult businesses, including around 40 soaplands, some of which will accept foreigners. You can look at the google results yourself, they include a map which shows the cluster of soaplands and its proximity to the train station. Of course there are hotels near the train station too -- I noticed an APA Hotel Chiba Station Square on the map. Here are a few of the links which could be helpful:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/article/en/2296/
https://bestescortstokyo.com/496/
https://camikaze.cc/area/best-soapland-in-japan/#Best_Soapland_in_Chiba.
Just looking on google maps and searching for "sushi" there are many results in the train station area, some of them rated over 4 stars. I'm sure you could find a good one. Ditto ramen or whatever else you might want.
Of course you could skip Chiba City and stay on the Narita Express and ride it all the way into Tokyo, with stops at Tokya Main Station, on the east side of town, and Shibuya / Shinjuku, major entertainment districts. Of course there are a ton of options for fun in Tokyo, but it all might seem overwhelming as a first time visitor, maybe jet-lagged, and on a tight schedule. The schedule would be especially tight if you were going to try to go into Tokyo, have fun, and get back to the Narita area the same night. As opposed to Chiba City, you could spend the night there and just catch the Narita Express back to the airport in the morning or make a shorter trip back to a hotel even closer to Narita.
So, something close to the airport vs Chiba City vs Tokyo, you do have options, it just depends on how much time you're willing to spend on transportation and how much of an adventure you want to have.Very informative and helpful. Thank you very much!
CCRider1008
09-24-24, 23:07
Okay I'm a senior member and know enough to read the threads before asking questions. I admit Japan is a little more confusing then the rest of SE Asia Think I have basics.
Understand the soaplands. Also understand foreigner bias and sticking to foreigner friendly venues. Which really means for me some soaplands, some delivery, and street girls -- aka tachinbo.
Couple questions:
1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.
2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:
A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?
Be. Is it like Brazil where you have to be very specific about services upfront, or Thailand where you just agree price, bring them to hotel and they're pretty much up for anything (maybe with a little more cash)?
3. Delivery Services. I'm still a little confused about "foreigner and English friendly". From reading forum I know TokyoHentai is a +. What others in Tokyo are recommended as far as ease making appt in english or on web, and foreigner friendly girls with decent selection?
Very informative and helpful. Thank you very much!No problem. One thing, I might have overstated the difficulty of finding an escort to visit a Narita area hotel. It stands to reason that there must be enough male travelers staying near Narita for there to be a market niche. Just google "escort narita Japan" for example and you will see some options.
Are they good options? No idea. The number and quality of options should be higher as the location gets bigger. So, Tokyo over Chiba City over Narita. I should point out that I don't get a commission from the Chiba City Chamber of Commerce if you choose to go there. It just seems like a good logistical compromise. But there is a serious risk that the soapland or escort experience in Chiba City could turn out to be a dud. That could happen in Tokyo too, of course. But Tokyo has many more options for foreigners and first-time visitors.
Anyway, whatever you end up doing, please report your experiences (including the sushi meal) back here.
No problem. One thing, I might have overstated the difficulty of finding an escort to visit a Narita area hotel. It stands to reason that there must be enough male travelers staying near Narita for there to be a market niche. Just google "escort narita Japan" for example and you will see some options.
Are they good options? No idea. The number and quality of options should be higher as the location gets bigger. So, Tokyo over Chiba City over Narita. I should point out that I don't get a commission from the Chiba City Chamber of Commerce if you choose to go there. It just seems like a good logistical compromise. But there is a serious risk that the soapland or escort experience in Chiba City could turn out to be a dud. That could happen in Tokyo too, of course. But Tokyo has many more options for foreigners and first-time visitors.
Anyway, whatever you end up doing, please report your experiences (including the sushi meal) back here.Appreciate it and I understand that these things are very much a YMMV type situation unless there's a specific escort that constantly gets great reviews from well known board members. Even then you might catch her on an off day but still much better chance percentage wise.
After doing some research here as well as looking into some of the recommendations posted, it appears to be more expensive for full service there than when I'm in Vancouver with well reviewed foreigner friendly Japanese girls. Might just put my focus on a good meal and waiting the extra half day before I'm back in Thailand getting drained for a fraction of the price. I can certainly afford it but it's just hard to justify when I spend 6 months of the year in Thailand. Might save play time in Japan for when I do a proper extended trip there. Thanks again to all that have tried to help and I'll certainly report back anything worthwhile I might experience there.
Appreciate it and I understand that these things are very much a YMMV type situation unless there's a specific escort that constantly gets great reviews from well known board members. Even then you might catch her on an off day but still much better chance percentage wise.
After doing some research here as well as looking into some of the recommendations posted, it appears to be more expensive for full service there than when I'm in Vancouver with well reviewed foreigner friendly Japanese girls. Might just put my focus on a good meal and waiting the extra half day before I'm back in Thailand getting drained for a fraction of the price. I can certainly afford it but it's just hard to justify when I spend 6 months of the year in Thailand. Might save play time in Japan for when I do a proper extended trip there. Thanks again to all that have tried to help and I'll certainly report back anything worthwhile I might experience there.Vancouver? I did not know this was an option. I will be there in a month or two. Any recommendations?
Vancouver? I did not know this was an option. I will be there in a month or two. Any recommendations?There's plenty of options (independent and agencies) and info on a Canadian forum with specific cities. Don't think I can mention it here and looks like I can't send you a dm / pm.
Captain Solo
09-26-24, 18:34
Plenty of time to take a bus ride to Shinjuku for all sorts of exciting entertainment, restaurants, bars, clubs.
The Tokyu Express bus picks up right outside the terminal every 10-15 minutes, arrives at Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower in about 1.5 hours. Return to the airport the same way.
Plenty of hotels within couple hundred feet, APA Kabukicho, Premier Cabin, ect. Also couple dozens less-known hotels rent by the hour or all night. A sauna / health club lets clients stay all night for $20.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
A few hot street girls hang around Okubo hospital. Not sure if they are still there. Homeless teenagers hangout, play games at the plaza in front of the K Tower.
Subtracting 3 hours bus rides from and to the airport, you still have 14 hours for sensory overload in exotic Shinjuku. Haneda is only half hour bus ride from Shinjuku.
Plenty of time to take a bus ride to Shinjuku for all sorts of exciting entertainment, restaurants, bars, clubs.
The Tokyu Express bus picks up right outside the terminal every 10-15 minutes, arrives at Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower in about 1.5 hours. Return to the airport the same way.
Plenty of hotels within couple hundred feet, APA Kabukicho, Premier Cabin, ect. Also couple dozens less-known hotels rent by the hour or all night. A sauna / health club lets clients stay all night for $20.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
A few hot street girls hang around Okubo hospital. Not sure if they are still there. Homeless teenagers hangout, play games at the plaza in front of the K Tower.
Subtracting 3 hours bus rides from and to the airport, you still have 14 hours for sensory overload in exotic Shinjuku. Haneda is only half hour bus ride from Shinjuku.Thanks and awesome intel Captain! A better flight actually came up today with my miles program, so I won't be doing the overnight layover now. Just a quick connection through Taipei.
I hope all the intel everyone has provided will help others and maybe still me on future connections. Thanks again to everyone that tried to help and let me buy you a drink or 3 if you're ever in Thailand.
A better flight actually came up today with my miles program, so I won't be doing the overnight layover now. Just a quick connection through Taipei.I already got in touch with the mayor of Chiba City, he is planning to give you an official greeting at the JR station and then a ride to the soapland district. Oh well.
I have Taipei airport advice too, though. Try the beef noodle soup.
I already got in touch with the mayor of Chiba City, he is planning to give you an official greeting at the JR station and then a ride to the soapland district. Oh well.
I have Taipei airport advice too, though. Try the beef noodle soup.Since I live in Taipei, I can confirm we also have the mayor of New Taipei City waiting at the airport to give people a ride to our local district as well.
Since I live in Taipei, I can confirm we also have the mayor of New Taipei City waiting at the airport to give people a ride to our local district as well.Is he waiting at the Songshan aiport? You might need to find the mayor of Taoyuan.
I already got in touch with the mayor of Chiba City, he is planning to give you an official greeting at the JR station and then a ride to the soapland district. Oh well.
I have Taipei airport advice too, though. Try the beef noodle soup.Sorry if your feathers got ruffled because my flight changed? Sad.
Sorry if your feathers got ruffled because my flight changed? Sad.I think we have a case of lost in internet translation. My feathers aren't ruffled at all, but I can see how it could have looked otherwise, so my apologies for that.
Zero offense was taken or meant on my part. You've already thanked me multiple times, so as far as I'm concerned, case closed.
The beef noodle soup recommendation wasn't a joke. I've been to Taiwan several times, it's a specialty there. The airport version might not be the best, but it was good enough for me.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?
Found this ultra hot tight 10/10 Cuban chick in Tokyo. And I'm wondering if it's too good to be true.
I ran into some AI-picture generated scams from other escorts before.
This will be my first time with an escort. Anyone have tips on how to make sure this is not a fake, AI-generated photos, or bait and switch, or worst of all a robbery?
Should I just contact her and ask for verification through FaceTime or something? I'm super new to this.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?It's just another review site like ISG. You have to sort out what is real from what isn't.
I personally stick to agencies in Japan since it's legal and easy and you have someone to go to if there's a problem.
But there are some agency chicks listed on Euro Girl Escort.
It's just another review site like ISG. You have to sort out what is real from what isn't.
I personally stick to agencies in Japan since it's legal and easy and you have someone to go to if there's a problem.
But there are some agency chicks listed on Euro Girl Escort.This girl is verified. And has independent tag so guess she doesn't have an agency.
If a girl is that hot like she is, is it likely a fake? It's insane how 10/10 she is it's almost like it's generated by AI.
NoBuglyFitches
09-30-24, 18:13
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?
The site itself is legit, but some / many listings are bait and switch.
Your girl is expensive for Japan. 500 USD = 70,000 JPY. Good Tokyo agencies (search this forum) charge 30 k JPY.
Photo looks ok to me, not too good to be true. Do a reverse image search on her pix.
But listed at 25 yo, I'd expect her to look somewhat older in person. In Columbia or Cuba, a 25 yo WG who looks like this would probably charge 200 USD. Might be an experienced pro touring in Japan. Some experienced independent escorts give good service; others are awful. Without reviews, or an agency for "quality control," and at a $500 price, this would be too risky for me.
My advice to a first timer would be (1) go with an agency that serves foreigners and is recommended by this forum (2) don't get too focused on any one girl based on photos. Manage your budget, time and energy so you can session with many different girls. That's your best bet to have a great experience.
The site itself is legit, but some / many listings are bait and switch.
Your girl is expensive for Japan. 500 USD = 70,000 JPY. Good Tokyo agencies (search this forum) charge 30 k JPY.
Photo looks ok to me, not too good to be true. Do a reverse image search on her pix.
But listed at 25 yo, I'd expect her to look somewhat older in person. In Columbia or Cuba, a 25 yo WG who looks like this would probably charge 200 USD. Might be an experienced pro touring in Japan. Some experienced independent escorts give good service; others are awful. Without reviews, or an agency for "quality control," and at a $500 price, this would be too risky for me.
My advice to a first timer would be (1) go with an agency that serves foreigners and is recommended by this forum (2) don't get too focused on any one girl based on photos. Manage your budget, time and energy so you can session with many different girls. That's your best bet to have a great experience.I'm fine with the price because she looks someone that I had a crush on. Would satisfy my fantasy. After this I'm open to other cheaper girls.
Any tips to verify legitimacy and make sure it's not bait and switch or pics stolen from somewhere else? Google searching the image returns nothing. She also looks way too perfect so I'm skeptical.
I plan on messaging her on telegram and asking her for verification videos with a name and date written on a sheet of paper. But any tips on messaging her? Because when I messaged a few other escorts they didn't respond.
When I reported another girl for stealing pics (she also had a verified tag), eurogirlsescort removed her verified tag, and she did not re-verify by sending updated pics to eurogirlsescort. She put up new pics with a much older version and heavier version of herself. So I suspect those old pics were either AI generated or stolen from models.
Now I'm cautious that this Pearl girl is the same thing. Her pics look less AI generated than the other girl.
So do I just have to take the risk here?
NoBuglyFitches
10-01-24, 12:32
Any tips to verify legitimacy -
So do I just have to take the risk here?Contact her and ask something like this:
Is it really you in the photos?
When were the photos taken?
How old are you?
Are your breasts natural?
How tall are you?
Confirm that sex is included. Her ad only says 69.
Then have her come to your hotel, meet her in the lobby and if it's bait and switch, you just send her away.
Or go to her, which is 150 cheaper, and leave if the ad was fake.
Contact her and ask something like this:
Is it really you in the photos?
When were the photos taken?
How old are you?
Are your breasts natural?
How tall are you?
Confirm that sex is included. Her ad only says 69.
Then have her come to your hotel, meet her in the lobby and if it's bait and switch, you just send her away.
Or go to her, which is 150 cheaper, and leave if the ad was fake.Alright thanks for the advice.
How far advance can I book a time usually? A month? Or a week?
I do find it suspicious how the girls (independent girls especially) on eurogirlsescort are much much hotter than Tokyo girls from an agency.
Especially a girl like Pearl who is perfect and has absolutely 0 reviews. Girl like that would have people coming to her in an instant so it's extremely suspicious she doesn't have reviews.
I wonder if I should contact the eurogirlsdscort customer service with my concerns.
I had a chance recently to visit Kira Kira again for the first time in quite a while. Just a few observations as a non-Japanese speaking foreigner. This was my 4th visit to Kira Kira over the past year.
First. They have recently instituted a foreigner tax of 5000 yen. Foreigners are also unable to choose the 50 minute option, so your most basic option is the 31,000 70 minute option.
Second. As part of this, they seem to have gotten more foreigner-friendly, but also cautious. The host spoke English (a first), and I was handed a long page of rules in multiple languages and asked to sign the bottom. I've never had to do this at Kira Kira before, but I have with some of the higher-end delivery health services.
I was presented with three options, as a walk-in on a weekday afternoon. One of them was clearly recommended by the host, and I have learned through experience to trust their recommendations. Japan is perhaps the only country in the world where I believe they are making genuine recommendations! So I went with Miyuku ("Milk") who was recommended, and I was not disappointed. First, she spoke some English. Another first for me at Kira Kira. Although of course no German or French: the. Second, she was very sweet, very short, with for me a near perfect body and a fine GND face.
I am anxious to try to find some more gaijin-friendly soaps in the Kira Kira price range in greater Tokyo, and it is hard for those of us who are utter gentlemen but don't speak Japanese, so I will keep watching the forum and sharing recommendations as I find them.
Contact her and ask something like this:
Is it really you in the photos?
When were the photos taken?
How old are you?
Are your breasts natural?
How tall are you?
Confirm that sex is included. Her ad only says 69.
Then have her come to your hotel, meet her in the lobby and if it's bait and switch, you just send her away.
Or go to her, which is 150 cheaper, and leave if the ad was fake.I just asked her for verification pics on Telegram.
She saw the message but did not respond. Now thinking it's a fake. Or maybe she's busy with too many clients and can't be bothered to respond to everyone?
NoBuglyFitches
10-02-24, 17:29
Alright thanks for the advice.
How far advance can I book a time usually? A month? Or a week?
I do find it suspicious how the girls (independent girls especially) on eurogirlsescort are much much hotter than Tokyo girls from an agency.
Especially a girl like Pearl who is perfect and has absolutely 0 reviews. Girl like that would have people coming to her in an instant so it's extremely suspicious she doesn't have reviews.
I wonder if I should contact the eurogirlsdscort customer service with my concerns.Book the same day or the next day, at most.
Eurogirl photos might have more filters and photoshop compared to Tokyo agencies.
Check out eurogirl photos for Colombia. Or screen for "Latin" under "Eth / Nat," then price > 301 per hour under "Rates". Not to be rude, but I don't see anything exceptional in your listing given her price.
Even if she's real, she's got no time for verification pix. She might be your first, but for her you're just one of dozens of guys. "Hey, are you free tonight?" -- yes. Can I come at 7pm? -- yes. Is it really you in the photos and are your breasts natural, and are you really 25? yes and yes. Then you just gotta take a leap and go there. Expect her to look worse than photos, obviously, but not much worse.
Don't bring more cash then you need (maybe an extra $50). Don't bring valuables. When she opens the door, take a good look. Be careful if she is in some dim lit or red light space -- that's to prevent you from getting a good look, so you'd come in even if she's 20 years older than stated or bait and switch.
Traveler X
10-02-24, 18:21
I had a chance recently to visit Kira Kira again for the first time in quite a while. Just a few observations as a non-Japanese speaking foreigner. This was my 4th visit to Kira Kira over the past year.
First. They have recently instituted a foreigner tax of 5000 yen. Foreigners are also unable to choose the 50 minute option, so your most basic option is the 31,000 70 minute option.
Second. As part of this, they seem to have gotten more foreigner-friendly, but also cautious. The host spoke English (a first), and I was handed a long page of rules in multiple languages and asked to sign the bottom. I've never had to do this at Kira Kira before, but I have with some of the higher-end delivery health services.
Excellent intel. I last went Kira Kira in July and there was no foreigner tax, so this is new. I have only signed a rulesheet my first visit a previous year. All the rules are common sense but important. When they ask if it's your first time, I say no I've been here before so they skip that. Perhaps they thought it was your first time on your 2nd visit, just a guess.
The questions I get asked is "Yoyaku?" meaning reservation? In my case no. "Hajimete. " meaning first timer? No. Then some variant of dochira or dono kuni asking what country I'm from. I say America kara. The last question is about "jikan" as in 50 or 70 minutes. They may bring you to the waiting room and you may be the only guy or other guys might be there. You get a number chip so the staff knows your "order". You hang out there, browse your phone, etc. They may suggest you use the restroom "otearai" or "toiletto" which I recommend. There are also drinks I remember. If they let you choose, I would recommend 70 minutes in any case unless you are good at pacing.
Kira Kira is very budget friendly. At the extreme there are some high end soaps in Tokyo 8 times more expensive, usually promising JAV stars (but making it impossible to book them). This makes it a good starter soap so you can try it out, get to know the system, and decide if you want more. It is just my experience but I always had a good time, the girls were nice and took care of me. I am not expecting a stunner but they were cute enough for fun. I'm expecting a lady in her 30's who looks decent and is open to every play.
Kira Kira is kind of easy mode since it is a decent price and lacks problems and confusion that I've run into at other random shops. Some girls are experienced, others very new. So hopefully recommendations are based on that and reviews. I was actually asked if I could fill out a survey on the girl after my first visit.
Let's say you move on and find another shop and are trying to figure it out. For beginners, I think it's important to pace things properly no matter where you go so you "hit your milestones" instead of running low on time. Know when to take over and make requests, don't be shy you can just gesture with your hand about BBBJ or use a phone translator if you must. My hand gesture cannot be mistaken for anything else, but better to ask for "fera onegaishimasu". Over on TAG I replied to someone who had 70 minutes but used it all on nuru and got a 1 minute HJ to finish, that's what happens if you never take over or ask for sex. I'm sure many guys have a good time letting the girl decide everything but my advice is to direct the action and skip play that you aren't interested in. I can get 2-shots with BBBJ both times if I want, or 1-shot and just cuddle and chat. You are paying for time and within reason you get to direct the action.
Other than hygene, there is no real set course or order of things even if the shops lay one out. So washing and brushing you should participate in but if you vibe with the girl and are clean it's never been an issue. Like most girls I could LFK briefly and play a bit before we got to washing. And I got multiple BBBJ on the mat and bath with kissing before brushing our teeth. I think normally girls would make you brush before then, I was a bit confused but I show up super clean to begin with so she didn't care. Btw there is a blog camikaze that gives good info on your first time visit, and lists many great resources including ISG here.
You may know what you like, so focus on that. There is a special "stool", sit on it and be brave. No spoilers here, be brave. I asked for the mat play and gel but I don't want to use a lot of time there so maybe 10 minutes max. I like the feel of running my hands all over her tits, ass, and parts with the gel. She doing the same with me. Fun times. But there are other things to do and I like a bath with a girl so we went to the standalone bathtub next. She got me into quite a position to suck me off in the bath, I was ass up. Would recommend! Then back to bed for how normal people do things. You are paying for time, if something isn't doing it for you politely suggest the next activity. I vibe well with girls and in my experience, they are happy to make me happy.
When visiting girls, the first few minutes is important to break the ice and get her comfortable and feeling good with you. I've gotten good at this over the years (I speak no Korean but have done it a hundred times with kgirls), so it's not a language issue. Keep it playful and focus on enjoying what's good about her. Read body language and communicate with body language.
Book the same day or the next day, at most.
Eurogirl photos might have more filters and photoshop compared to Tokyo agencies.
Check out eurogirl photos for Colombia. Or screen for "Latin" under "Eth / Nat," then price > 301 per hour under "Rates". Not to be rude, but I don't see anything exceptional in your listing given her price.
Even if she's real, she's got no time for verification pix. She might be your first, but for her you're just one of dozens of guys. "Hey, are you free tonight?" -- yes. Can I come at 7pm? -- yes. Is it really you in the photos and are your breasts natural, and are you really 25? yes and yes. Then you just gotta take a leap and go there. Expect her to look worse than photos, obviously, but not much worse.
Don't bring more cash then you need (maybe an extra $50). Don't bring valuables. When she opens the door, take a good look. Be careful if she is in some dim lit or red light space -- that's to prevent you from getting a good look, so you'd come in even if she's 20 years older than stated or bait and switch.Tokyo is pretty safe as far as crime / robbery right? As long as I don't tell her the hotel room number (just tell her the lobby) I should be safe from gangs / pimps? She's an independent escort so not sure what to expect.
I checked out other Colombian girls and their photos look much more edited and filtered. The pics Pearl use looks much less edited and filtered. And her skin looks insanely soft and smooth. Her face looks perfect and her body is super super tight yet curvy. It's just hard to find an escort with that level of perfection where I am from. She looks more like a model or one of my high school crush than an escort.
She's not my first but I haven't had action in a long while.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776852/?list=lwoazh
Anyone know if this website or girl are legit?
Found this ultra hot tight 10/10 Cuban chick in Tokyo. And I'm wondering if it's too good to be true.
This will be my first time with an escort. Anyone have tips on how to make sure this is not a fake, AI-generated photos, or bait and switch, or worst of all a robbery?
Tokyo is pretty safe as far as crime / robbery right? As long as I don't tell her the hotel room number (just tell her the lobby) I should be safe from gangs / pimps? She's an independent escort so not sure what to expect.Tokyo is pretty safe in the sense that it's unlikely that you're going to lose any vital organs, not so safe that you couldn't be scammed.
None of us answering your questions really knows if she's legit or not. My gut instinct is that the pictures look too good to be true. Her listing description says nothing about Japan. Her listing also says that she will travel countrywide. Really? She'll travel from Tokyo to Fukuoka? To Sapporo? Sounds like a load of crap to me, but what do I know.
If she still hasn't replied to your message asking for verification, then you probably already have your answer, just forget about it and move on.
If you're in Tokyo and you want an escort, you have a lot of local options.
Tokyo is pretty safe in the sense that it's unlikely that you're going to lose any vital organs, not so safe that you couldn't be scammed.
None of us answering your questions really knows if she's legit or not. My gut instinct is that the pictures look too good to be true. Her listing description says nothing about Japan. Her listing also says that she will travel countrywide. Really? She'll travel from Tokyo to Fukuoka? To Sapporo? Sounds like a load of crap to me, but what do I know.
If she still hasn't replied to your message asking for verification, then you probably already have your answer, just forget about it and move on.
If you're in Tokyo and you want an escort, you have a lot of local options.Yes that's exactly what I was thinking too. Pics look way way way too good to be true. She looks more like a world model than an escort; maybe it's AI generated pics. How can she be so perfect? It's so rare to see an escort like that.
Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls.
Probably time to move on to another escort, maybe Melo but of course I have to message to see if legit https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/mello/435687/?list=hpm0i5.
Tokyo is pretty safe in the sense that it's unlikely that you're going to lose any vital organs, not so safe that you couldn't be scammed.
None of us answering your questions really knows if she's legit or not. My gut instinct is that the pictures look too good to be true. Her listing description says nothing about Japan. Her listing also says that she will travel countrywide. Really? She'll travel from Tokyo to Fukuoka? To Sapporo? Sounds like a load of crap to me, but what do I know.
If she still hasn't replied to your message asking for verification, then you probably already have your answer, just forget about it and move on.
If you're in Tokyo and you want an escort, you have a lot of local options.I also found Pearl on 2 other sites with verified tag.
https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-tokyo/pearl-other-mixed-cuban
https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435679/pearl
Not sure what to make of it because like I said the independent escorts are always much hotter than the agency girls so it feels like too good to be true.
I also found Pearl on 2 other sites with verified tag.
https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-tokyo/pearl-other-mixed-cuban
https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435679/pearl
Not sure what to make of it because like I said the independent escorts are always much hotter than the agency girls so it feels like too good to be true.She has another profile in Singapore. I think it's almost 90% confirmed fake at this point. How can you be in both Tokyo and Singapore? Or did she forget to remove a posting? Idk. Another profile in Israel.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pearl/776865/?list=v52qfh
https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435677/pearl
Traveler X
10-08-24, 08:10
1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.
2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:
A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?The Kabukicho tachinbos are mainly Japanese. You'll want to speak Japanese or hopefully there are a few non-Japanese you can talk to. There are certainly newhalf ones too, they don't hide it. The newhalf ones have middlemen, but most tachnibos do not. If you see men talking to them, most are actually lookie-loos. Non-paying "window shopper" guys who just want to talk to prostitutes for free. The girls won't even look or react to most guys for that reason. So get to the point if you are serious.
I have only seen foreigner tachinbos in less frequented areas near love hotels. Rather than downtowns like Shinjuku or Yokohama, I saw them in random places like Koganecho of Yokohama. My guess is there are police patrols in Shinjuku and Yokohama, whereas nobody patrols a backwater spot like Koganecho. Foreign women are going to be harassed by police for foreigner card / passport visa, so they tend to avoid busy areas. But I see 8 Thai women standing around in front of a Love Hotel, not hard to figure out. Just talking with them I soon confirm they are dtf.
Officially, most hotels will not let you bring a girl if you book a single. But you can often sneak a girl in anyways if you are with her. You just won't be able to get delivery health. I have seen a whole spectrum of hotels ranging from "we don't care or check much just don't let us catch you" to "we will hold onto your key for you whenever you step out like your mom - ask for it back when you return". In the latter case, it was in Roppongi and you had to walk past the lobby to even get to the room elevators. You had to ask for your key back every time, crazy. But it was an awesome hotel right next to the clubs so I put up with it. But even with that set up, I snuck a girl up twice! It's story time.
I met a Filipino girl in Roppongi who was DTF and I asked for my key from the front desk. She was clearly a girl ready to fuck. The guy said in English "Sir, no guests allowed". I said "Oh, I just want to show her the view a few minutes" and he couldn't hold back his huge smirk and just gave me the key. Such was my boldness with a straight face. We entered the elevator and as soon as the doors close the Filipino girl said in embarrassment "He knows!" And yes, we did bang after showing her the wonderful view. Even got in the tiny shower with her. Fortune favors the bold.
She was one of the rare times I picked up a girl without even intending to. I flirted with her at an internet cafe while she was putting on makeup - back then there were no cubicles or dividers.
It was hot, we fucked and fucked. Then after I told her how wonderful she was. When it was time for me to kick her out, she asked if I could give her "um.some taxi money". Oh I get it, cool. Fair enough too I have plenty of money so why not take care of a girl who was so nice to me. I would have gladly paid her from the start anyway, I don't like to take anything for free.
So I have to say that was my first night in Japan after a long flight and I was super jet lagged and confused. I saw I had a 10000 yen bill but also three 1000 bills. In my jet lag confusion I thought 3000 yen was better so offered it to her. But then noticed her glancing at the other bill. I gave her the 10000 bill in the end. Got her number to call her up again later in the week.
A whole hour later, I went down to the lobby and handed the key back, saying "She liked the view".
After that I was off to Roppongi. That was the first time in life I simply picked up a girl, so I wanted to see if I could repeat the magic at the clubs next.
So getting confused or sick from jet lag on my first night out wsa a recurring theme. But I often landed on a Friday and did not want it to go to waste (Friday and Saturday are best nights for Roppongi). So on another trip I picked up yet another girl the first night without even trying. I just talked to a lot of people, men and women, until I started talking to her. She was so cute and amazing, 22 and just my type.
I think the reason we hit it off was she was from North Korea (which blew my mind) but somehow also spoke Chinese (which isn't common but not exactly rare along the border regions). I could speak enough Chinese to talk with her, and after half an hour I invited her to a cafe since it was cold. But I was so jet lagged and I had two rum and cokes which were killing me - I wanted to sleep but also stay awake at the same time, plus nausea from sleep deprivation due to not sleeping on the flight since I was so excited.
Finally I was feeling more and more sick so I apologized to her, I told her she is wonderful and I know we had just agreed to go hang out at my hotel, but it's my bad we can't do it now. I was speaking in broken Chinese and confused by jet lag, so it took me a couple tries to explain it. I mean she was ready to go to my hotel next door and was confused, asking why not. She was dtf, I saw the signs. But I told her I didn't mean to waste her time and I gave her what I would have gifted her anyways. She was pretty surprised. Never saw her again.
I was so ready to take her but knew I was about to throw up. I made it back to my hotel room in time to do just that. Don't mix caffeine and alcohol with jet lag and sleep deprivation. First time wanting to fall asleep, throw up, and be awake from caffeine at the same time. It's been 20 years and I still am careful about that, it was that awful a feeling. Plus I missed out on North Korean pussy.
I know Shibuya is supposed to be the goto pickup spot, but Friday / Saturday nights in Roppongi I was lucky without even trying. I wasn't even trying to pick up these girls, I ended up meeting 3 over the course of 3 trips before moving on to oppai clubs instead of Roppongi. The 3rd girl I actually met at a club in Roppongi. I never forget while dancing against me her, her tits sliding up and down my chest. She was Vietnamese, on a legit Visa to work in Japan (as hotel front desk staff). She enjoyed the view too. The front desk guy didn't even look me in the eye this time.
So I guess to answer your question, I have had better luck meeting girls in Roppongi than SWs. Mainly on account that among the Thai girls I saw, all of them were older than me at the time. Kind of frustrating but I had to pass. Not so with the 3 Roppongi girls who were early 20s and cute. All my life until then, even mediocre American women rejected me. But here in Japan civilian girls of all types were dtf upon meeting me. Close to top tier girls somehow, I couldn't believe it at first. Japanese, Vietnamese, even North Korean. Not Chinese strangely. Had plenty of dates with Japanese girls despite being just a tourist. Not to mention all the shops I've written about. So you can see exactly why I flew to Japan no less than 20 times. Fucking paradise for a guy like me.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666
Traveler X
10-12-24, 05:12
Someone else just found out that there's this place called Kabukicho where women actually prostitute themselves. They wrote a whole article about it:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/10/06/japan/society/japan-sex-tourism/
Articles like these are often embellished with rumor and exaggeration. I recognize many of the sources of the article and it is all too easy to fill in the blanks with whatever you want to finish an article.
"At Okubo Park, there are no pimps just men, including foreign nationals, looking for paid sex and young women there to give it. By 8 pm, there were around 30 women waiting to be called on. ".
This is true enough. There are some daily livestreams showing the lineup. Like with all things there are peak and busy times. Keep in mind youtube, tiktok, etc. Will play things up for shock value. Half the videos I've seen aren't even of prostitutes but claiming them to be. Simply reading the sign the girls are holding in Japanese would show they were advertising for a no touch girls bar. Totally different. But it gets the clicks.
"In the past, Japanese men used to be criticized for going to Southeast Asia for sex. Now, it appears to be the other way around, with foreign tourists and residents flocking to the area, fueled by a weak yen, robust inbound tourism and social media posts. ".
This is a shifting trend for sure, but to be clear 95%-98% of business is still Japanese locals obviously. This is not Thailand. In the same way, some Japanese women go abroad to neighboring countries to work. Asia, Austrlia, Canada, US, etc.
"Foreign tourists at times come in groups accompanied by an interpreter to help them negotiate. Some girls prefer foreign nationals, fearing that Japanese customers may turn out to be undercover police officers. ".
Certainly this happens but it is not the norm. The author is conflating Okubo park with other places staffed by foreign SWs, who do prefer foreigners and interact with them more often. And most approaches by foreigners are not going to involve a translator, though I have done just that when I was young. It's not common.
"The reality is that Japan has become a country where foreign men can obtain young women and essentially buy sexual services.
Most people understand this is an unusual outlier. We're talking a street in a district of a city where this happens. It is not the norm nor do people consider that to represent Japan. What is more well known is Japanese women at corgs around the world who may pleasure you on the clock including bb upcharge. It's everywhere now. I'll look up a girl I like and they make quite the tours around the world.
"The average price per session is around 20,000, but this can be lowered to 15,000 if business is slow. ".
Wow, thanks for the tip. Sounds about right.
"A Japan Times reporter on assignment witnessed several sex workers going straight to host clubs after working on the street and then heading back to the park again to earn more cash after the clubs closed at around 1 am ".
Good on them for doing personal research. They now know as much as I knew 20 years ago. Anyone with eyes can learn this information. This is a reminder not to take these articles too seriously, they are trying to give the facts with research but are not experts on this.
"Sex workers face many dangers, including physical violence, extortion and sexually transmitted diseases. ".
These are real risks, but not the norm. It's true it is hard to report violence in this work but anyone caught doing it should be punished.
"A friend was physically beaten by a foreign customer, who demanded she return half of the money he paid because he could not reach orgasm. Since her friend didn't want to risk being arrested, she called Miya for help instead. When they ran away from the man, he kicked Miya in the back and chased them, refusing to stop until Miya's friend returned the money. ".
This is one of those tell-tale made up stories where the villain patiently waits for a witness to show up before continuing their crazy behavior. No doubt it can happen, but this particular story of the violent but very patient customer did not happen. See these juicy fibs all the time in their articles to meet some deadline.
"Support groups and lawmakers say legal loopholes are to blame for what's happening. In Japan, buying and selling sex for money is illegal, but the ban is limited to penetration only. The anti-prostitution law imposes a criminal punishment of up to six months in prison and a fine of up to 10,000, but only for the seller and not the buyer. ".
Wow, thanks for the tip. It is true the police are going to suck their teeth on John's if they are just customers. Remember that only PIV is illegal, paying a woman for HJ / BJ / Anal / Sumatra is legal as long as she is of legal age. What men get in trouble for is being pimps / brokers, which is illegal.
Conclusion
It must be said that prostitution is not taken seriously in Japan. Nationally, about 400 arrests are made per year. Versus about 7,000 in the US now. Note the US used to average 70,000 in the year 2000 but has dropped enforcement 10-fold to just 7,000 in 2024. It is barely a drop in the bucket and not taken seriously in either country, hence big headlines for every case that makes the exception.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1197352/japan-number-arrests-breaches-sex-industry/
https://oppaga.fl.gov/Documents/Reports/22-10.pdf#:~:text=Over%20the%20last%2020%20years%2C%20there%20has,the%20majority%20of%20those%20arrested%20for%20prostitution
This article is just about one notorious street in Kabukicho, a sub-district of Shinjuku in the city of Tokyo. Let me just say there are other streets where things are different obviously. I have written about them in the appropriate sub-forums.
I only know things because I have two eyes. If you have seen street action to be had, you too can write a report and warn us about naughty streets we should avoid.
For a detailed explanation of the sex business in Japan, with all the nuances of legality, here is a detailed interview with a Japanese SW. It will answer every question I have ever heard on this board about delivery health and soapland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68This was great.
Both the interviewer and the woman are good talkers and seem to be pretty intelligent.
She says she's 33 and will probably retire at 35.
Any idea where she works? I suppose with 1000 customers on her list getting a booking is pretty tough.
CCRider1008
10-15-24, 22:31
Okay gentlemen. Hoping for some straightforward answers from credible recent visitors to Japan. I need to decide whether to spend time and money visiting Japan. I've gone back and forth 10+ times now. I combine vacation / tourism with mongering each trip. Japan Plus: I'd like to see the country from tourist perspective. Japan Minus: the blatant anti-foreigner sex scene. I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.
Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.
Destinations.
So, my very specific questions which will help me decide if Japan is worth the expense and time are:
1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?
2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.
Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
https://casanova-soapland.com/
I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.
I showed up a few minutes early. They had my reservation by name. An older guy in a suit welcomed me and brought me to a waiting room. By the time he brought me some tea Asuka was already ready.
I came out and there she was. Friendly and waving. She's pretty, quite petite, speaks little English. Pretty much looks like her pics. But she did a great job. It was a full on soap experience.
Took off my clothes and put them away for me.
Washed my body with little sucks and licks in between.
Gave me a nice hot bath.
Full on soapy body slide with lots of mouth and tongue play.
Good rimming, great BJ.
FS with condom in several positions.
I laid back and let her do all the work. I go to a place like this to get serviced. And serviced I was! She rode me for a solid 15 minutes without taking a break. I was amazed by her effort. Felt great rubbing and touching that slim body with the lotion all over it too. No wonder Diddy buys oil by the truck load!
Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.
Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.
CCRider1008
10-16-24, 21:53
Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.
Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?
Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?
Traveler X
10-17-24, 09:19
Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
https://casanova-soapland.com/
I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.Wonderful, thanks for confirming another place as foreigner friendly. That's the trend now with the exchange rate, economy, and with COVID restrictions fully lifted (Apr 29 2023). More places are paying attention to the inbound market. More places are also adding a foreigner tax, which we don't like, but at least identifies the place as opening its doors. The higher end places do have better girls on average, especially DH where you can pick a girl matching your type.
I believe as this market share slowly grows, competition will moderate the tax. It seems to range from 5000 yen to 15000 yen in most places I've checked. Some small tax does makes sense for the added risk they take, and the labor to service non-Japanese speakers. Time will tell, I expect in 1-3 years more and more places will turn and drive down that tax to something reasonable.
Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.This video was made for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctDjnG8J9cY
I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.
1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?
2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.Japan has had COVID restrictions since Apr 2020 to Apr 2023, and even after they were lifted tourism spots were not properly trained or staffed let alone all flights available. They have just barely recovered perhaps 1 year ago after being depressed for over 3 years. Business are still getting used to the idea of servicing inbound tourists again. The exchange rate has made Japan more attractive, and thereby soaplands more open but also greedy. There are now many options for you that have been posted that are foreigner friendly, some fully English friendly.
From a friend, I will try out this one next year. It has a hefty foreigner tax of 15,000 but I don't care since it has a few girls I want to see.
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html English page (it is a single page with everything summarized).
https://gingira.jp/system.html Japanese page explaining just the system. Scroll down and you'll see 2 ad videos showing you what you get. Wonderful.
https://www.img-bank.net/gingira/movie/attachmentFile/95/GINGIRA_NANASE6min%E5%A4%A7.mp4 Link to one video with Nanase.
https://gingira.jp/profile/NANASE Nanase's profile.
The most important thing about Gingira is I know they use legit ads for the girls. Specifically, I know two of the girls actually look better than their ad. That's how it should be, people aren't going to be disappointed that way and will come back. Cannot say that of the majority of other shops I've tried (though in Japan it is usually close). And of course I can't vouch for any but those two but that's a good sign that it's 2 for 2. It will be many months before I visit, but I will have a report next year assuming it goes as planned.
Nanase graciously allowed the naughty ad to be filmed. I wanted to narrate some excerpts from the ad, as if I were the guy (humor me). First, notice how nice jgirls look with clothes on. Jgirls are famous for looking their best with clothes on, but it is a dice roll when the clothes come off. She and I exchange 'gyu' for hugs. I have a huge grin like a simp and tell her how much cuter she is than the ad, I'm so glad I paid money for sex with her. Really she asks. Really, yokatta. I forget I'm paying by the minute and focus on hugging her, so the scene has to skp forward. Now we are in the lotion bath, what beautiful white A cups she has. Many guys have turned at run at this, but I am all-in. I have to say they found the perfect actor here to represent the average guy coming. They want people watching this ad not to hesitate. It can be me they should think.
And so on. Damn, this ad really shows Nanase's good sides. If you don't mind A cups, book her before I do. There are dozens of soaplands like Gingira, many with English sites now explaining the process. Enjoy and no more need for Rosetta stone to learn Thai.
First photo attached is Nanase's profile photo. It says Nanase is 20. Surprisingly, at this store the ages aren't too off. Another girl is advertised as 19 and it turns out she was 19 when she started, but now 22 - it still says she's 19. So in a very backwards way this shop at least doesn't just make up a number, the ages were at one point correct (unlike many other shops).
They have quite the extras. If you see "A girl enter the room, fellatio Immediately" that's exactly what you means - she sucks your dick right away. I'm not sure I'm ready for that one, but I want to be brave. "Piss show" apparently in Japanese it's called "holy water" in kanji and you're just supposed to know that means piss. Huh. Note "Drinking cum", options like these depend on the girl, see a girl's ad page and if it shows O or not meaning they will do it. Most important, see if the girl is "foreigner okay" which a lot of them are. Triangle means "maybe" - either they roll a 20-sided die or they see I can speak in complete sentences and gives me the okay sign.
Some girls also support 3P. What a coincidence, so do I!
Seriously, it turns out just today I had my first 3P. Even blindfolded myself and correctly identified which girl it was by her ass before shoving in. Well, I will try to do the same in Japan once I get up to date on DH again. I love my oppai pubs but there are specific girls I want to see now.
This is one of the better shops with some great looking girls (I've seen them at a different shop before they moved here)and charges accordingly. The theme is 'disco era', love the look.
Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?
Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.
At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:
- Price.
- Cleanliness.
- Quality of girl.
- Quality of service.
Here's another good find in Tokyo:
Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/system.
In room massage, and they are pretty quick and hassle free about setting it up. No need to show ID, have a Japanese phone number, or any of that annoying stuff that so many places require. Also foreign friendly and English speaking.
I was able to get a nice Japanese women in her 20's sent to my hotel in about 2 hours. She was English speaking. Tight clothes. Lots of flirting and joking around. She never got naked. Not that kind of place. But after a really good massage she flipped me over and worked a nice load out of me.
60 minutes was 20000 Yen, no delivery fee or tipping.
The website says "no sexual services" but I ended up getting a world class hand job with nuru lotion on my first try. Is this the norm? YMMV.
Booked a 2 h outcall from amateurtokyo.com few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.
So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.
Girl was nice, as expected.
Booked a 2 h outcall from amateurtokyo.com few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.
So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.
Girl was nice, as expected.AFAIK, every place in Tokyo charges the consumption tax.
Who was the girl? What did she do? BBBJ or more?
I've only frequented a few shops here and the price on website was always tax-inclusive, including at THC. Amateur Tokyo was the only one where the final price I got was different, but still went ahead.
Won't name the girl, hasn't been reviewed here but I looked at their Japanese page (Shibuya Garden AFAIR) for reviews on the girls. I only talk of extras with the girl directly so hadn't taken CIM option while booking but she gave BBBJ anyway without asking. Sex is 10 k.
Their Japanese page also doesn't mention that prices are tax-exclusive (different prices though).
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CCRider1008
10-22-24, 15:14
Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.
At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:
- Price.
- Cleanliness.
- Quality of girl.
- Quality of service.Thanks RR. Very helpful. Sounds like soaplands catering to foreigners might be place to focus.
With the exception of maybe one response from a busy body member without a life and nothing better to do than give personal opinions (hunter) I appreciate the input from members of the board. Japan trip is booked in March! I'll continue research and report after trip. Cheers.
This is going to be a tough post to write. I have long held a desire to check out the adult entertainment scene in Tokyo, but never had the city high on my list. Despite having numerous tried and tested international cities under my belt, I spontaneously booked a flight to Haneda to satisfy my curiosity of Tokyo. Since I have traveled all over Asia for business and seen Japanese men in adult venues acting like drunken sailors, I was apprehensive of what they might have available in their home country. Since I find Japanese women incredibly beautiful, my mission was to identify the most beautiful women in Tokyo.
Arriving at HND and making my way through Immigration and Customs at terminal 3 was a breeze. I booked a stay at the Hyatt Regency Tokyo knowing that it was a short walk to Shinjuku and I had plenty of Hyatt points to burn. Fortunately, the Hyatt Regency is one of the stops using the Airport Limousine bus service. They have a kiosk right as you exit Customs to get your ticket and then you take the elevator down one level. It was about a 45 minute ride into Tokyo before I arrived at my hotel. I highly recommend this service. I think it was 1,400 yen each way.
The first agenda item on my list was to check out the oppai clubs in Shinjuku. I would later learn that Japanese call these places "booby clubs". I used the following web site as my guide. My first stop was to the Treasure Box on the 10th floor of the Daikan Plaza (link below). As I got off the elevator, I was rudely met by a man telling me "Japanese Only" and redirecting me back to the elevator. Using Google Translate I did my best to make my case for entry, but he was clear "No Foreigner. Japanese Only" so I left.
https://www.prds.net/a_shop_list/c_shinjuku/
https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11180/
As I left the building I walked toward the action and stumbled upon a place that helps you book visits to these booby clubs in Shinjuku. I was told that most of the places in Shinjuku are Japanese only and there were only a few that were foreigner friendly. I was encouraged to check out a place called Sweater Moon. Link below. Since I was a foreigner, they required me to pay upfront and then escorted me down some stairs and into a small curtained booth. They served me a cold draft beer and a few moments later brought me a very average looking lady. She was someone passable if she was free, but not someone I would ever pay for. I spent about 20 minutes with her on my lap and then it was time for girl #2. This girl was not passable and I did my best to politely ask for another girl. The answer was a clear no. You get what they give you like it or not. I decided to cut my losses and leave.
https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_10960/
After leaving Sweater Moon I came upon another location that helps with booking these clubs. I told the guy my type and told him I wanted to go to Leicester. He made a call and then had one of his guys escort me to the club. Knowing where Leicester was and where I was being escorted, I asked where he was taking me. He pointed out Luxe was where they had booked me. Since I had heard about this place, I allowed him to take me in. Of course, they had me pre-pay. Luxe is not really luxurious and quite small. The seating is open but they did have some private vip rooms. Similar to the first place, the first girl was passable but the second girl was big and not attractive. They refused to offer me another girl and I decided to leave.
https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11288/
After 3 disappointments, I made my way to Leicester to see if they would allow me in. Similar to my first stop, there was no way they were letting me in their club. "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners" is what I was quickly coming to terms with. I couldn't bribe / tip these guys to let me in. They didn't care how much I was willing to spend, they were not letting a mid-age white guy from the USA in their club. You have to accept it, but it doesn't feel good to be not allowed into a club because of your race.
https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11306/
Given that my night wasn't going too well, I opted to take a taxi to 7th Heaven. I had heard that it was the closest thing to a western style strip club. Entry was 7,000 yen and that got you two drinks. Lap dances were 7,000 ($46 USD) in a private curtained booth. Oddly there were no Japanese girls. Most looked to be from Europe (the Cubans have not made their way to Japan yet! I saw one girl I liked and had her brought over to me. She put the heavy push for me to buy a bottle of champagne. She tried to convince me that I was required to buy her drinks so I might as well buy a bottle. A 15,000 ($100 USD) yen bottle got you one free lapdance so you are essentially paying 8,000 for the champagne. Not a great value, but my night wasn't going well so I agreed and then took this Romanian for a dance. Her dance was nothing too special so I only did one. I grabbed a seat near the stage and made some small talk with a Japanese guy that spoke perfect English. We agreed 7th Heaven was terrible. I explained that I was in Tokyo looking to see the most beautiful Japanese women. He suggested that we go to a hostess club in Ginza. He invited me to go and I accepted. He was paying for the taxi so why not.
Arriving near the Ginza Grand Hotel, we arrived at a place called Vogue. Unlike the places in Shinjuku that I previously visited, we were warmly greeted due to me being escorted by a Japanese man. Vogue was a very luxurious club with absolutely gorgeous women. My new Japanese friend told me there was no touching, but it might be possible to bring the girl back to my hotel at the end of their shift. Since I had been to KTVs in China, I sort of knew how these clubs worked, but Tokyo is much different. It was clear as a foreigner that I was not taking my favorite girl back to my hotel on my first visit. My new friend wasn't able to get his girl to go with him either. He did share how addicting these places are for Japanese men and that he probably spent millions of yen at these places. A good girl can easily make a lonely Japanese man fall in love with her and have him coming in night after night in the hopes of eventually getting her to go out with him. Frankly, I had a great time at Vogue and my time flew by. Total damage was 101,000 yen (about $662) for our drinks and the time with the girls. Was this a good value. Absolutely not!
Upon leaving Vogue, I was educated on this area of Tokyo. I saw tons of men leaving clubs with gorgeous women. My new friend shared with me that this street was lined with clubs similar to Vogue. While he claimed Vogue was one of the top hostess clubs, he showed me how the clubs lined the street and how the drivers for wealthy Japanese businessmen stand along the sidewalk waiting for their bosses to exit the clubs with a lady before going to a love hotel. He explained that these men regularly go to these clubs and spend a lot of money. The girls leave the clubs with their regular customers. These Japanese men go into these hostess clubs and the hostesses often go out with their customers after work to keep them coming in. Please note, I never had a girl solicit me to leave the club for money or offer me sex.
As we were standing along the sidewalk outside Vogue, the most gorgeous woman I have ever seen was walking towards us. It was clear she was leaving her work at a club, so I asked my new friend to go up to her and ask where she worked and to get her name. It turned out that she worked at O which was on the 3rd floor above where Vogue was. I told the girl that I was going to be in the next night to see her.
Given my lack of sleep, I decided to call it a night and made my way back to the Hyatt. End of Day 1.
In the same location as Treasure Box is a club that operates from 6 am to 2 pm called Jewelry Box. Yes, same exact club but apparently different owners. One operates during the morning and the other at night. Link below. Knowing all too well that I would likely get booted and refused entry, I decided to learn my lesson from my time with my Japanese friend. Upon being immediately turned away, I professed that I had been there the week before with my Japanese friend and that they promised to let me in if I came back. After a lot of back and forth and a phone call to my friend, they relented and actually let me into the club after a 15 minute hassle. Similar to Luxe, the club was not all that special and not worth the hassle. They gave me one girl that I had previously seen on their site. She looked NOTHING like her web site photos, but she was nice and provided good service. I believe I spent 13,000 yen ($85 USD) on my 40 minutes with this girl. They did not offer me another girl.
I did learn something from my visit to Jewelry Box. The girls seem to love white men and have no problem with foreigners but the men that work there do. I was repeatedly told about it being difficult to communicate and foreigners walking out on their tabs. Personally, I just don't think these men want foreigners with their Japanese girls.
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Upon leaving Jewelry Box, I walked around the corner to an odd place where all of the girls wear nurses outfits. Once again, immediately upon getting off the elevator I was told "Japanese Only" and refused service. Using the same technique as earlier, I simply lied and explained that I had been there before with my Japanese friend. They agreed to let me in if I paid upfront. Similar to Sweater Moon, you are escorted into a booth and they bring a girl of their choosing to you. My first two girls were very average but super nice. Good kissers, nice boobs and plenty of stick shifting. My third girl was very skinny but very ugly and had terrible body odor. Two minutes in I just had to stop her and told her I needed to leave. I did not put up any fuss and just decided to cut my losses and leave. I think I spent 10,000 yen here.
https://www.prds.net/a_shop_detail/g_11233/
I decided at this point to make my way to Soapyland in Yoshiwara. I used the following web site as my guide. My friend had suggested Luxe, Versailles and Lavieen Rose to checkout.
https://camikaze.cc/soapland/yoshiwara/
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I have been to so many places all over the world and have never seen a anything like soapyland in Yoshiwara. If you look at the map on this web site, you will see how many there are in this concentrated area. I started at Luxe and Casanova. I walked up and down the streets and probably went inside 15-20 places. Per the Camacaze web site, "Foreign visitors are welcome to the area, though discrimination based on ethnicity and possibly your Japanese comprehension may be faced. " This was exactly my experience. As a Caucasian American, I noticed that I was required to pay more for services, that discounts listed on their web sites were not available to me, some had a minimum time of 120 minutes, and there were limitations on the providers available / offered to me. I could go to a web site and see 10 or 15 girls scheduled, but only 2 would be offered to me. Versailles actually told me "no insertion" for foreign customers because foreigners are too big. I noticed that the prices ranged from 70,000 to 90,000 yen. Some accepted credit cards with a 20% surcharge and some were cash only.
If you have been to places in Thailand, Vietnam, Jakarta, Manila, or Macau, you know that most places like this have a selection process. In Thailand many places use a "fish bowl" where spas in Macau bring out all of their girls for a lineup where the girls line up right in front of you. In Yoshiwara, they hand you an ipad or they present you with photos in a picture frame which you can tell are heavily edited. I was very tempted a few times to roll the dice and select a girl to try the experience, but I ultimately decided NOT to spend $600 and I returned to my hotel. Had they allowed me to select the girl that I really liked I might have done a session. I am sure there were some amazing girls in soapyland, but they were not available to me and they will not be available to you.
After getting a little rest, I decided to make my way back to Ginza. My new Japanese friend messaged me that he was already at Vogue with one of his clients, but I told him that I planned to go to O to see the girl from the prior night.
Upon getting off the 3rd floor and walking into O I was once again stopped almost immediately upon entering. I was told "Private Club" and "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners". To say they were hostile towards me would be understatement. Believing that I could work through this, I politely told them that I was there to see a lady that I had met the night before. I provided her name and they brought her out to the entrance. As I saw her walk towards me in the entry, she looked stunningly gorgeous and seemed happy to see me. She spoke some Japanese to the managers and I have no idea what she said. They then brought out a beautiful young lady that spoke perfect English. They asked me what I did for work. Oddly, once I told them what I did for work and the company I worked for, they smiled and handed me a portfolio that showed their prices. They told me that it would cost 100,000 yen to enter ($650 USD). When I told them that I was not planning to drink, they showed that it would cost 50,000 yen. I agreed to this and they escorted me to a table.
While these places may not appeal to most of the readers on ISG, I think it is worth sharing what is offered in Tokyo. First, O is not a big club, but it is definitely highclass and they definitely cater to a much older clientele than Vogue. I saw many men in their 70's and 80's but the women were a step above the ladies at Vogue. These women were 10's! The lady I was there to see was not immediately available, so they had the English speaking lady join me. She was gorgeous too! I sat with her for about 45 minutes and got a really good education on these hostess clubs. These places are part of the Japanese culture. Beautiful young Japanese women work in these places and often marry their customers or they have arrangements / affairs with wealthy older Japanese men. I saw many women with designer handbags, expensive designer shoes, and expensive watches and diamond earrings. I asked this lady if her watch was a gift and she told me that most Japanese men do not buy gifts. She indicated she makes very good money working at O and she is able to buy nice things for herself. I asked if she saw customers outside of the club. She indicated that O closes at midnight and she will go out with men after the club closes. She did not proposition me, but it was clear that she was interested in seeing an American man. When I asked how much she typically charges to go out with a customer, she indicated that she will accept tips but she goes out with customers that are generous in the club.
Eventually the lady I was there to see became available. She did not speak English but I was able to use Google translate with no problem. Once again, some readers might not care about spending money or time with a beautiful lady unless she offered sex, but this was actually an enjoyable experience. I get why my new Japanese friend and other Japanese men get addicted to these places. There was something sort of hypnotic about spending time with an extremely gorgeous woman and just having a delightful conversation. This woman was very honest and indicated that she was very conservative. She indicated that she does not leave the club with men and that is why I saw her leaving the club alone the night before. She indicated that some girls leave the club with customers but she did not typically do this.
Okay, so while I am sitting with this gorgeous lady, the girl I met at Vogue the night before was blowing up my phone. Since it was approaching midnight and there was no way this beauty was leaving with me, I closed out my bill and she walked me to the elevator and gave me a warm embrace and thanked me for coming in.
I took the elevator down to Vogue and was immediately greeted with the same "Japanese Only" and "No Foreigners". Fully prepared, I pulled out my credit card receipt from the night before and was immediately escorted to a table. My girl from the night before was not immediately available so they had a lovely lady sit with me. Eventually the girl that had been blowing my phone up arrived at my table. She politely explained that a customer came in and purchased champagne and a vip room. She said would not be able to spend time with me and she was honest that she needed to go out with this customer once the club closed. For some reason this didn't bother me like my visit to Soapyland bothered me.
I got the impression from all of these hostesses that they really do not have the freedom to pick and choose who they spend time with. I got the impression these girls are paid by the club to come into work and are brought over to customers by the hosts. If customers do not find the girl attractive and appealing, they are not asked to work again. If these girls are not able to get their customers to spend money on drinks or champagne, they do not make money and are not asked to work. I believe these girls get paid a commission on what they drink and what I drink. I got the impression that these girls are highly encouraged to go out with customers of the club to keep these customers coming in. Essentially, you come in and see me at work and I will go out with you after. Or, I will meet you for dinner before work if you come in and see me at the club after dinner. It is really about getting men hooked and coming into the club regularly. If a girl does not have a following of customers that spend money, she is not making money for the club and is not working there for long. I think the girl at O is so gorgeous and classy that she does not need to go out with customers to keep them coming in to see her.
I do not know if a hostess club like the ones in Tokyo would be successful in any city in the USA, but there really is something appealing about the places I visited and I only visited two. It is so relaxing and enjoyable to spend time with these hostesses. I admit that I could get hooked too!
As I was returning to my hotel, I decided to cut my visit to Tokyo short. I had satisfied my curiosity and realized that Tokyo just did not offer the same value that I look for. I booked a flight home for the next evening.
Not able to sleep-in this morning, I decided to go back to the Jewelry Box since they opened at 6:00 am. I arrived around 7:30 and was met once I got off the elevator from the same guy from the day before. I once again was hostilely met by this guy with "No! No!" Of course I was like WTF is the problem now? I was just here yesterday. I was told the place was full and there were no girls available to service foreigners. He told me that most of their girls do not want to service foreign customers. Again, 10 to 15 minutes of harassment and they eventually let me in. Was the club full? Maybe 25% of the place was occupied by really young Japanese guys that were drunk and passed out.
While I was waiting for a girl to be brought over to me, I got the attention of one of the hosts. He sat next to me and using Google translate, I explained that this was my last morning in Tokyo and I was willing to spend money if he was willing to give me the girl of my choice. He smiled and asked me who I wanted. I pointed out this petite little lady. He said he would bring her over once she was finished with the other customer. Sure enough, in 10 minutes she was brought over and immediately hopped on my lap and put her tongue in my mouth. This tiny little Japanese girl acted like she was in love with me. The way she was straddling me, grinded on me, and kissed me, I knew that I had to sit in one of their vip booths. We got the attention of the host and he quickly moved us. I did two hours with this little lady and had a blast. I am convinced this lady had multiple orgasms grinding on my big American penis. If she wasn't grinding on me then her hands were on it and stick shifting. This lady, from all appearances, appeared to be enjoying her time with me as much as I was with her and I think the host noticed this. Upon closing out my bill, I asked him to write something for me to give to the guys at the entry so I could avoid their future harassment. He wrote something on my receipt basically instructing them to let me in and what girl to immediately put me with on future visits. I recall my bill was 84,000 yen for my two hours in vip with her and her drinks.
Tokyo is an amazing city. It is clean and very safe. If the people were as warm, friendly, and hospitable as Thai people, it would be an amazing city to visit regularly. I am willing to work through obstacles, but the glaring discrimination you receive is NOT worth it if you are coming to a country / city to spend your hard-earned money. So many of these places do NOT want your business despite hearing countless times how bad business is and how bad the Japanese economy is. I am a Caucasian man, but there are Caucasian men all over the world that will get the same exact experience as me upon entering any of these Tokyo establishments. I can only imagine how a tourist from India or the Middle East would be treated by these Japanese clubs. Do I think anything will change? No! Walk the streets of Tokyo and you will see it is probably the least diverse city in the world. If Japan wanted us to visit and bring in our tourist dollars, they would welcome visitors warmly and not shun us from patronizing their businesses. The Japanese could learn something from the Thai culture about how to be hospitable to foreigners.
Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities. Toronto, Sao Paulo and Tijuana are three of the best places in North and South America. Germany and Switzerland are good value in Europe. Thailand and the Philippines are great value in Asia. What I spent in Tokyo would have allowed me to party like a rock star in any of these other places. What I spent at O in Tokyo would have allowed me to bring a girl from Scandallo back to my hotel for an overnight. What I would have spent in Soapyland would have allowed me to pull 5 girls out of Hong Kong in Tijuana. What you spend in one night in Tokyo would allow you to spend a week in Bangkok or Angeles City. I can cross Tokyo off my list now, but I know where NOT to spend my money. The Japanese hostess clubs are an incredible experience, but like a slot machine in any casino, you have to continuously feed it with money for it to eventually pay off.
Traveler X
10-24-24, 21:33
This is going to be a tough post to write. I have long held a desire to check out the adult entertainment scene in Tokyo, but never had the city high on my list. Despite having numerous tried and tested international cities under my belt, I spontaneously booked a flight to Haneda to satisfy my curiosity of Tokyo. Since I have traveled all over Asia for business and seen Japanese men in adult venues acting like drunken sailors, I was apprehensive of what they might have available in their home country. Since I find Japanese women incredibly beautiful, my mission was to identify the most beautiful women in Tokyo.Thank you ATexGuy, you are a hero for pointing the way. Your experiences remind me of my first visits to Japan. Trial and error with many refusals, but a lot of accidental wins and meeting some interesting people. You did a lot in just a few days. I hope you also had some special memories sightseeing too, Japan is special.
The two clubs you were first rejected by were Hosekinobako (super hard word to pronounce) and Leicester (always pronounced Lester in Japanese). You first went to Luxe which is 100% foreigner friendly, sorry to hear you didn't get good girls until later. When a girl looks nothing like her photos, she might be substitute for the real girl. 90% of girls I saw were photo accurate, but the very hottest girl of all was brand new so she borrowed someone else's profile. I played with her for 3 long hours. It is the ultimate gacha game I suppose. My reviews on the three oppai pubs:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559#post2927559
Make use of the '24 hour Manzoku' shops like ATexGuy, they are 3rd party and will know which shops will take foreigners. In my case I could speak Japanese so they made a phone call to Hoseki and said "Can I introduce you to a customer? He is a foreigner who can speak Japanese" The answer was Yes. Maybe if it was busy it would be No. They never mentioned my race - race doesn't matter unless you are Black or Indian, all that matters is your Japanese ability and that you're a foreigner. Even my Japanese American friend was treated the same.
After my 1st visit to a shop like Hoseki, I presented a discount card a girl gave me that also acted as proof I'm a repeat visitor. Or save your receipt with your name like ATexGuy. That's what they really care about, there are enough foreigners that run on the bill or cause trouble but a receipt rules those two out instantly. Notice how the girls vouched for ATexGuy, if the girls feel safe they are happy to serve foreigners (it's a big if). I'm not saying that the staff's hostile attitude is okay, just that we have to be problem solvers. There is an English staffed shop like Manzoku but forgot the name of it.
My first time in Japan I wasn't even there to monger, just to see a girl. I was walking downtown Sakae in Nagoya when a Japanese tout beckoned me in. It was weekday dinner time so things were dead slow. Even with limited Japanese (3 months), as a presentable gentleman I could enter an oppai pub. I actually entered three. I don't know if it's still true but Nagoya is so cheap compared to Tokyo, it was 4000 yen ($27) to make out with 3 women for an hour. They were quite cute. People drop $1 K on strippers in NYC and don't even get LFK.
After making out with the third girl and giving her tits one final goodbye kiss, I was a transformed man. I became Traveler X. I made the very first review for Nagoya on this site, twenty years ago:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1805-Nagoya&p=187592&viewfull=1#post187592
There is a foreigner tax regardless of race. Even my Japanese American friend who could speak basic Japanese was charged a foreigner tax, though I'm sure other places will make an exception. I saw many Asian Americans at oppai pubs, they all spoke middling Japanese (2-10 years). Being white is not a big impdeiment (it's better than other races), the language ability is. As your experience shows, once they know you are a legit business person and not some bum that saved up cash (this is most their customers btw), they are less worried. We foreigners all look the same to them whether White, Asian, or other. It's why once I see a girl and she gives me her card, simply presenting the card gains me re-entry. Though as a rule it means you are also asking for that girl. If she's not working that day, they still give you discount and hand back the card. They even apologized twice to me and I was like "No really, it's fine"
I too enjoyed talking with women, it's not for many other guys who just want to bang but but there's a reason it's popular. "Talk only" places can be cheap fun, but of course there are super high end places too where it costs 10 x as much and the ladies are amazing. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Most Japanese women are refreshingly honest and upfront, they are not going to pretend they'll go out with you after then not do it. Or they'll tell you nicely they don't go out with me, and it's usually the truth. We can understand they'll make an exception if they make a special connection, but the jist is still true some girls are not there to bang.
"Fully prepared, I pulled out my credit card receipt from the night before and was immediately escorted to a table. " OMG I never though to this, their reaction is very Japanese and golden. I have an old habit of "leave no trace behind" but do keep girls' cards to get back in. A receipt is even better proof.
"She politely explained that a customer came in and purchased champagne and a vip room. She said would not be able to spend time with me and she was honest that she needed to go out with this customer once the club closed" This is a classy girl, doing it the right way and being upfront and respecting your time. And yes, they do not generally have the freedom to pick and choose, if a guy books her he gets her. It's the business and they are professionals.
"Maybe 25% of the place was occupied by really young Japanese guys that were drunk and passed out. " Oppai pubs are 10% whale customers, 10% good customers like you and me who spend generously, and 80% cheapskates who might not even buy a drink. The reason they don't want to let a white guy like you in is they don't want to add to the 80%. Once you pull out the receipt from yesterday, it's a 180.
"I explained that this was my last morning in Tokyo and I was willing to spend money if he was willing to give me the girl of my choice. He smiled and asked me who I wanted. I pointed out this petite little lady. He said he would bring her over once she was finished with the other customer. Sure enough, in 10 minutes she was brought over and immediately hopped on my lap and put her tongue in my mouth. This tiny little Japanese girl acted like she was in love with me" Props to you, I probably should do this. Instead, I will go through 9 girls just to find the girl I want. I think 95% of guys won't do that, but somehow I love the challenge. Ultimate speed dating right.
"The way she was straddling me, grinded on me, and kissed me, I knew that I had to sit in one of their vip booths. We got the attention of the host and he quickly moved us. I did two hours with this little lady and had a blast. ".
I'm so glad you gave it one last chance and made it clear what you wanted. Could have been a more mediocre trip otherwise. When I said I made out with a perfect 10 for 3 hours, it's true. But I had to see 18 other girls over three nights to do it. I mean I got two other 9's I'll always remember, but still. You and I both spent well compared to other customers, but I consider it a steal. Never had such a good experience with the 3 best girls elsewhere, and keep in mind I'm banging and filming jgirl porn in the US so it's no like I don't have access.
The unpleasant feeling of discrimination you had lingered with me as well my first trip. I made 19 more trips after that with less and less problems. So I don't justify their behavior, but I think it can be solved on repeat visits with experience. Not to mention that every year more shops have English staff and are foreigner friendly if you research them.
FilthyBeaver
10-24-24, 21:57
Kudos to you, you are as brave as you are intelligent. Japan has also been on my list but second tier for the exact reasons you so clearly pointed out. It's obvious to me that some help is required when your boots are actually on the ground there so I would probably use an app like Showaround to make a quick local friend to kick open some doors for me.
Tokyo is an amazing city. It is clean and very safe. If the people were as warm, friendly, and hospitable as Thai people, it would be an amazing city to visit regularly. I am willing to work through obstacles, but the glaring discrimination you receive is NOT worth it if you are coming to a country / city to spend your hard-earned money. So many of these places do NOT want your business despite hearing countless times how bad business is and how bad the Japanese economy is. I am a Caucasian man, but there are Caucasian men all over the world that will get the same exact experience as me upon entering any of these Tokyo establishments. I can only imagine how a tourist from India or the Middle East would be treated by these Japanese clubs. Do I think anything will change? No! Walk the streets of Tokyo and you will see it is probably the least diverse city in the world. If Japan wanted us to visit and bring in our tourist dollars, they would welcome visitors warmly and not shun us from patronizing their businesses. The Japanese could learn something from the Thai culture about how to be hospitable to foreigners.
Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities. Toronto, Sao Paulo and Tijuana are three of the best places in North and South America. Germany and Switzerland are good value in Europe. Thailand and the Philippines are great value in Asia. What I spent in Tokyo would have allowed me to party like a rock star in any of these other places. What I spent at O in Tokyo would have allowed me to bring a girl from Scandallo back to my hotel for an overnight. What I would have spent in Soapyland would have allowed me to pull 5 girls out of Hong Kong in Tijuana. What you spend in one night in Tokyo would allow you to spend a week in Bangkok or Angeles City. I can cross Tokyo off my list now, but I know where NOT to spend my money. The Japanese hostess clubs are an incredible experience, but like a slot machine in any casino, you have to continuously feed it with money for it to eventually pay off.
AsiaExplorer
10-25-24, 22:18
Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities.I'm sorry, but I think you went about your trip the completely wrong way. Those hostess clubs are designed to extract the maximum amount of cash from Japanese businessmen, while providing nothing in return, to keep them coming back in the hopes that spending more money might lead to something.
There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.
Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.
Another very good option is Osaka, which has at least two different brothel districts. No looking at pictures online or on an ipad, you can just walk down the street and see the girls in person and pick one you like. Yes, about half the girls do not accept foreigners, but there are plenty of mind blowing beautiful girls that do. I also like the theatrics of this place, they have to serve you "dinner" (some snacks and tea on a tray) to legally operate as a "restaurant". I could imagine this tradition going back hundreds of years and it's fun to take part in.
If you live in the United States or Canada, there are agencies that bring Japanese girls over. However, these sessions cost more than you'd pay for a Japanese girl in Japan.
Traveler X
10-26-24, 20:03
There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.
Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.
If you live in the United States or Canada, there are agencies that bring Japanese girls over. However, these sessions cost more than you'd pay for a Japanese girl in Japan.Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:
https://paradise-tokyo.net/price
Video option is becoming a lot more common these days, it's listed as 15,000 which is $99 USD. In the US it's typically 200. Prices are certainly higher in US but on the other hand things are upfront, no dancing around FS you will get it and don't need to negotiate or tip for it. It's guaranteed. The other thing is you can go before work, during your lunch, break. Not saying either one is better, but you can see how it depends on the person and their situation / location. They also bring over the better girls. When the girls worked in Japan, it's no surprise it turns out to be a higher end place. There is quite a gap in quality between different shops in Japan.
In NYC the other benefit is every girl gets reviewed a lot. Some guys see almost every girl, every week. So with 5 visits a week by 3-5 reviewers, the girls that are good draw customers. It's probably one reason why their market attracts and keeps the better girls more consistently. When a top end girl goes to DC / NOVA for example, everyone sees just her and the other 2-4 jgirls split the rest. A good girl can get 8 or 10 bookings a day, which is a lot more than even a popular girl in Japan (to be exact, even when the same girl goes back to Japan). This is a result of word of mouth and a "limited tour" model, it is much more intense in those two regions than elsewhere in the US or even Japan. Where most people just gatekeep their finds.
AussieGaigin
10-26-24, 21:53
Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:
THC is Tokyo Hentai Club. Search that.
There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.
Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.
Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:
https://paradise-tokyo.net/price
THC is Tokyo Hentai Club. Search that.THC: https://hentaitokyo.com/.
GFE Soapland: https://gfe-japan.net/.
Prices are certainly higher in US but on the other hand things are upfront, no dancing around FS you will get it and don't need to negotiate or tip for it. No negotiation or tipping in Tokyo soaplands. You go and you get sex. And it's legal.
Traveler X
10-27-24, 17:34
No negotiation or tipping in Tokyo soaplands. You go and you get sex. And it's legal.I'm talking Delivery Health where depending on the shop and girl you'll need to negotiate. Some girls do it for free, many for a tip, a few are just ymmv or not.
Also I've always gotten fs at soapland but a few guys have reported girls running a whole course without it, if they think you're a noob. Make sure to ask. I just ask, usually I ask for bj (fera). Then by body language we just start sex. Other times I say "sex oneagaishimasu" if I want to hurry that along and she gets a condom.
Bonus, this is JAV actress Ichika Nagano doing delivery health. Note she does have 2 leaked uncensored JAV (see STARS-232), this is not it. No surprise there is an overlap between JAV and DH girls (and all SW).
Nagano Ichika:
https://www.javlibrary.com/en/vl_star.php?&mode=&s=aewci&page=5
Do not expect to run into an a-list JAV star at DH. It's really rare. You can book A-listers at Tora no Ana, but they have a VIP system where you have to book their lowered tiered girls before you can book the A-listers like Aika. The screencaps shown are from a contributor on a now defunct site. And no, she did not bang even though it was DH. It doesn't always happen.
Never had to ask for sex in a soapland going back many years. I guess whatever you have to do though.
Delivery health hit or miss, depends on the place and the person too.
Had luck at Tokyo Amateur Escort without even asking. Just paid for AF and ended up the other way around!
MonkeyPaw28
11-02-24, 23:50
Hello fellow GP lovers. I'm looking for massages in Tokyo, the kind seen on PornHub, Xvideos, etc. Massages with stretching, with the girl urging you on all the time. Can you give me some light on where to find it?
Grateful.
MonkeyPaw28.
Hello fellow GP lovers. I'm looking for massages in Tokyo, the kind seen on PornHub, Xvideos, etc. Massages with stretching, with the girl urging you on all the time. Can you give me some light on where to find it?
Grateful.
MonkeyPaw28.Haven't seen that porn, but it sounds a lot like my experience at Bamboo Forrest. https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/girl.
I just tried a place called Taitanic. Apparently it's the sister shop of Tokyo Amateur Escort. This one is in Yokohama.
It was very easy to book in English, right over the phone. Showed up and they were ready for me.
I picked the girl with the best looking boobs. Pics are definitely edited, but amazingly the women look pretty close. Much better than I expected!
https://escort-taitanic.com/2024/11/04/romi/
Paid 35,000 Yen for 65 minutes. Extra 12,000 for "AF".
We went to a love hotel they suggested. Right near the place. It was easy. She showed up right away. Looked good in her dress, even better in her panties.
Pretty basic shower but in the bed it quickly got steamy. Real AV experience. Mutual oral, cat bath, rimming, and I got FS rather than AF. I was really into the experience. Love these fresh young tight Japanese chicks.
Most places for foreigners push old and saggy women on us. I have been doing really well with this group.
Lascivious
11-06-24, 06:28
I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.
AussieGaigin
11-06-24, 07:05
I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.If you're living there long term, it might be better to get yourself some FWBs from the local population.
Traveler X
11-07-24, 05:40
I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.Correct, for non-FS Japan is way better than the US. The lightest services are dirt cheap. For 6000 yen ($39) you get all you can drink beer and 3 girls for 40 minutes to entertain you, topless, you can kiss them or suck on their tits. These are oppai pubs and the 100% foreigner friendly one is Luxe in Shinjuku. If you vibe with a girl buy her a drink and it tends to put her in a good mood, though I will say at Hosekinobako the girls are more pro and don't expect it. If you are conversational Japanese (2-4 years) and just want to chat, it's more like 4000 yen for 2 girls for 60 minutes. These are early bird prices around 6 pm, most shops 8 to 10 pm raise the price a bit, then raise it again near midnight. In the US even though I can bang a stripper at VIP for 200 plus the cost of VIP (100-140), she won't kiss me among several other things standard in Japan. I would know, I used to write a lot of guides for COI (city of industry) clubs. Since I like Asians anyways it's a no-brainer. See this comprehensive Japan guide by ISG user Traveler X:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666
For FS, it's tricky which is better. It's complicated but Japan has lower starter rates at the lower-end soapland, but you tend to get okay looking girls, often in their 30's. The service is very good, but many shops now have a gaijin shops while most others won't' service foreigners. So your selection is limited. As others point out if you vibe with a girl you can get her LINE and meet her out of the shop, but only do this if really think she's above and beyond your type. There is delivery health but then you have to negotiate FS, a few girls do it for free, a few girls don't ever do it, with most girls taking 10 K or 20 K. It's a really YMMV thing. CFS is the norm but certainly some girls are flexible. In Socal you may know the korgs everything is guaranteed. As someone with 20 years of experience with both having made hundreds of appointments, average kgirl service is way better. Jgirls in Socal also offer bb and video as standard options. But if you're not into that, it doesn't factor in. The most important difference though is in Socal you need English to visit (obviously) while in Japan you should either speak Japanese or deal with all the issues already described.
I write many HYA lists so there are definitely may young and cute kgirls, they are the minority (same for jgirls in Japan). But the difference is there is a solid English community to support you. In Japan there's a bit more gatekeeping especially with many boards set up and run by the shops themselves. So I can leave simp messages of support to my favorite girls, but not leave an actual review for them. This site ISG lets you do that, but obviously there are few of us since it's Japan and only 2% of Japan is foreigners. So please review girls and shops if you see them, I will do the same after my next trip. Good luck!
Correct, for non-FS Japan is way better than the US. The lightest services are dirt cheap. For 6000 yen ($39) you get all you can drink beer and 3 girls for 40 minutes to entertain you, topless, you can kiss them or suck on their tits. These are oppai pubs and the 100% foreigner friendly one is Luxe in Shinjuku.
I took a look at Luxe's website and they look extremely high-end, which is kind of intimidating.
I would feel out of place going alone.
Also the pricing says 13,000 yen (https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/drinks-menu/), but first time visitor is only 7,000.
Latest Special First-Time Offer: 40 Minutes for Just 7,000 Yen (Tax and Service Included)!
For only 7,000, I might muster the courage to go.
Traveler X
11-09-24, 20:21
I took a look at Luxe's website and they look extremely high-end, which is kind of intimidating.
I would feel out of place going alone.
For only 7,000, I might muster the courage to go.Think of it as a strip club that also serves beer and compliments. I recommend buying drinks, compared to a US strip club it costs almost nothing. You can buy every girl a drink and it would still be just over $100 which will barely get you a 10 minute dance in the US. In the US it's generally with no kissing and licking. I'll summarize my POV. I go to 24-hour Manzoku info shop and ask them to take me to Luxe (look for 24 with privacy curtains or 18 UP, then you know it's naughty inside). The staff calls on the phone to Luxe and say "Can I introduce you a new customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" As long as the club is not full, the answer is yes. The ideal time is maybe 8 pm or 9 pm when it's not packed but there are girls showing up, no different than some strip clubs in the US. They lead me up the elevator and the Manzoku guy hands me off to the Luxe staff and gets a receipt. I pay the Luxe guy, he explains the rules in perfect English, has me gargle mouthwash, maybe a hand sanitizer. Some shops ask if you need to use the restroom since now is the best time. Sometimes if I show up a bit early, there are not enough girls and they apologize and give you snacks and beer to wait. This can happen if you go very early or very late, or it's random. Soon, a cheerful girl shows up and sits next to me. It starts out like a hostess club where she introduces herself and asks about you with compliments, but you can touch them and they will touch you. Of course she says my Japanese is sugoi and off we go.
There is a range of service level but most girls are in the middle. At Luxe in particular they have a lot of foreigners (first time I went it was mostly foreigners) so the first girl says what English she knows to me to cheer me up and show off how cute she is. In her case it works, she's not exactly my type but her smile and attitude are a big turn on. She is actually fun to talk to without even licking her. I ask if she would please hop on me? Of course she can! I try not to crank it up right away, we get 10 minutes per girl. So I put my hands on her and feel her body shape, give a compliment on what I like. Oh by the way, can you take your top off too for me also? Of course she can! She knows what I'm here for. Oh my, you have cute tits I say. Can I kiss them, is that okay? Sure, go ahead. I just kiss her on the mouth next, it's LFK with most girls. If seems comfortable with me, I kiss her neck too. Never be rough and she'll take care of you. She brings up the topic of can I buy her a drink. Sure I say. I say I'm new to this club just want to make sure how much it costs (I'm 99% sure just confirming). She says and it's no problem. I buy every girl a drink these days. There are much more expensive drinks but you won't accidentally buy them at a Japanese shop.
I get two more girls of varying cuteness and tits. But always leave after the 3rd girl politely saying "I got to go, my friends are waiting" (they are not). As you note, extending another 40 minutes costs 50%-100% as much at some of these clubs. But if I see a girl I really like, I do nominate her to "keep" her. This is actually good value because normally there is downtime but if you nominate her you get a girl you like (which is worth paying for) and you just keep going rather than introduce yourself again. I once did 3 hours with a girl I couldn't believe how cute she was. What am I even doing with her. I keep maybe 1 in 6 girls, but I'm really into Japanese women. Other guys might not be so impressed with most.
BTW I notice after seeing maybe a dozen girls at Luxe, 1 girl didn't want to go topless if you don't buy them a drink. Whereas a few girls will actively ask to hop on you and go topless before you ask. Some girls ask for a drink early, others after they go topless. There's all kinds of ways, so don't feel bad if your first or second girl throws you off. That's why they send you 3 girls, play it cool you are the customer you are god. If you get even 1 girl you really love, I call that a win. It's the whole point of the club. Get her card or extend and keep her. I will say the other "must speak Japanese" oppai pubs are a step up from Luxe. Luxe is just a starter one that is foreigner friendly. As others posted, there is some leeway with the other clubs. I got into my first one with 3 months of Japanese but it was super slow and probably why. You might save your receipt as proof to enter other clubs. When I show a girl's card, I'm given instant admission without even the Japanese test. They are just trying to weed out bums and problem customers.
I have never once paid 13 K yen. I have always been a "first time visitor" paying the early bird 6,000 or normal intro of 8,000. Several tactics: a) Go to the 24-hour Manzoku info shops dotting Kabukicho and ask them to take you to Luxe. Surprisingly, they match the best rate which means 6 K early bird or 8 K normal. Intense competition does this. B) For your second visit, take any card a girl you liked gave you. It should offer a discount and will nominate her. But only if you really like her. C) Go to the 24 hour Manzoku shop for your 2nd visit. You can say straight up this is your 2nd time. The guy called Luxe and asked can we introduce a guy 2nd time using the 1st time rate? Since it was not busy, the answer was yes. Maybe won't work if they're packed. D) Go to a different Manzoku shop and have them introduce you as 1st time. I did this and by chance new staff took me in at Luxe anyways. But I don't think they would have cared, if it wasn't busy.
I suppose having a 3rd party staff introduce you to Luxe helped me feel less intimated going alone. But it is a common feeling going to strip clubs alone, until you realize most guys there are exactly the same. Nobody knows you, who cares. Always ignore the touts especially the Nigerians in Shinjuku. Follow this one advice and it is perfectly good and safe.
I wrote a few other things about oppai pubs:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927664&viewfull=1#post2927664
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2929014&viewfull=1#post2929014
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2936662&highlight=oppai#post2936662
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2938754&viewfull=1#post2938754
Attached are photos from Hosekinobako and Leicester. Their girls are slightly better on average but requires some Japanese speaking (I was not the only foreigner there). Last photo is from a shop one girl worked at, she did not upload her photo for the oppai pub site. With the Leicster lineup photo I recognize several girls, those are the actual girls who work there plus a ton more. There is quite the turnover so many girls are just started, always.
First photo is Rito who is amazing, she did everything I asked without hesitation. I'm a normal guy and I want to see her beautiful legs, so she takes her heels off for me to feel her feet too. I got her card and nominated her next time (girls don't work every day so no guarantee). The whole staff announced it and called her over to me lol
Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories!
Steven Jones
11-10-24, 17:56
Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories!How much did you pay?
Think of it as a strip club that also serves beer and compliments. I recommend buying drinks, compared to a US strip club it costs almost nothing. You can buy every girl a drink and it would still be just over $100 which will barely get you a 10 minute dance in the US. In the US it's generally with no kissing and licking. I'll summarize my POV. I go to 24-hour Manzoku info shop and ask them to take me to Luxe (look for 24 with privacy curtains or 18 UP, then you know it's naughty inside). The staff calls on the phone to Luxe and say "Can I introduce you a new customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" As long as the club is not full, the answer is yes. The ideal time is maybe 8 pm or 9 pm when it's not packed but there are girls showing up, no different than some strip clubs in the US. They lead me up the elevator and the Manzoku guy hands me off to the Luxe staff and gets a receipt. I pay the Luxe guy, he explains the rules in perfect English, has me gargle mouthwash, maybe a hand sanitizer. Some shops ask if you need to use the restroom since now is the best time. Sometimes if I show up a bit early, there are not enough girls and they apologize and give you snacks and beer to wait. This can happen if you go very early or very late, or it's random. Soon, a cheerful girl shows up and sits next to me. It starts out like a hostess club where she introduces herself and asks about you with compliments, but you can touch them and they will touch you. Of course she says my Japanese is sugoi and off we go.
Excellent advice! I'll be in Tokyo later this month, so I'll report back after my visit. Good call about buying the girls drinks. I'm normally on the frugal side, but when you compare it with US strip clubs, it's definitely a no brainer. Plus the exchange rate is awesome, so why not.
CCRider1008
11-12-24, 20:00
Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories!With Delivery Services can you go to an office location to pick a girl for meeting later in evening? Are there girls at the offices you can see in person or is it just the same photos on the website? Website photos for outcall services seem horribly photoshopped in Tokyo, and I'm reading it's common to add at least 5 years to their age listed on website as well. Plus run risk as foreigner of the bait and switch to old lady that seems commonplace. You seem to have good luck with Delivery Services.
CCRider1008
11-12-24, 20:10
Think of it as a strip club that also serves beer and compliments.
I buy every girl a drink these days. There are much more expensive drinks but you won't accidentally buy them at a Japanese shop.
Nominate her
I have never once paid 13 K yen. I have always been a "first time visitor" paying the early bird 6,000 or normal intro of 8,000. Several tactics: a) Go to the 24-hour Manzoku info shops dotting Kabukicho and ask them to take you to Luxe. Surprisingly, they match the best rate which means 6 K early bird or 8 K normal.
to me lolTraveler, couple questions on Luxe.
Confirm do you need some limited Japanese, or you can be English speaker only?
Does nominate her mean you request her 100% remainder of the club time?
Lady drinks seem to be $3000 yen according to their website, so $20 usd. That's pretty expensive isn't it? I get your point about buying them, but they rotate every 10 minutes so I'm wondering if the drink is a good exchange of value. Not even a handjob. LOL.
The sex info shops. Do you pay them a fee or do they get their money through the referral?
Traveler X
11-14-24, 09:29
With Delivery Services can you go to an office location to pick a girl for meeting later in evening? Are there girls at the offices you can see in person or is it just the same photos on the website? Website photos for outcall services seem horribly photoshopped in Tokyo, and I'm reading it's common to add at least 5 years to their age listed on website as well. Plus run risk as foreigner of the bait and switch to old lady that seems commonplace. You seem to have good luck with Delivery Services.
Your hotel or a love hotel. Many hotels won't support it, but the ones in the RLD like Kabukicho will. Love hotels are very cheap, maybe 4000 yen for 120 minutes depending on the area. You add that onto your budget. You can't meet the girls in person first, you can pick their photo in person or online.
Photoshop is completely different than lying about age. In my experience, DH shops rarely use photoshop though they may use an old photo and choose a flattering photo from a good angle. Then Japanese customers can't complain. Ages can be off but there's no such thing as "add 5 years". I've seen them add exactly 0 years, I've seen them add 15 years. I know, I dated one of the girls and when she debuted at 19 she was really 19. But the website still says 19 now 3 years later. So there is no simple rule about this at all. They can lie as little or as much as they like.
It varies a lot by shop. The shops I like, the girl looks exactly like the photo. Occasionally, even better. But I'm sure other shops don't. DH specifically though, they tend to use more accurate photos on average. The popular shops catering to Japanese rely on repeat customers. It's competitive so the better shops use more accurate photos. But surely new shops pop up all the time, who knows their policy.
Traveler, couple questions on Luxe.
Confirm do you need some limited Japanese, or you can be English speaker only?
Does nominate her mean you request her 100% remainder of the club time?
Lady drinks seem to be $3000 yen according to their website, so $20 usd. That's pretty expensive isn't it? I get your point about buying them, but they rotate every 10 minutes so I'm wondering if the drink is a good exchange of value. Not even a handjob. LOL.
The sex info shops. Do you pay them a fee or do they get their money through the referral?Luxe is specifically foreigner friendly. My first visit was more than half foreigners. White guys, black guys all speaking English. I prefer to speak at least a little Japanese but at Luxe the girls are used to it so tried to speak English with me. Even though I'm fluent. Even if they only know short phrases. Most Japanese girls can listen and understand basic English vocabulary even if they can't understand full sentences.
You can do what you like, I wrote US strip club guides and they are expensive even though you get different stuff like bjs, hjs, fs. Yet in the US almost none of them will kiss, most won't let you suck their tits, they certainly won't talk half as nice to you other than the sales pitch. And if you want actual hot girls, the prices are kind of a stretch. $200 at least for fs with a HYA at a place like COI for example. Ask those girls how much to tongue kiss and see their answer. Out of 100 girls, there is only one or two legit cute Asians, like Cora in COI. But she is 500 to bang (not including VIP price), still won't kiss you or let you lick her. I used to write the guides.
I find a $20 drink puts the girl in a good mood. You don't have to, you do you. It's just my advice. I find Japanese only clubs like Hosekinobako it doesn't matter as much. But they are not foreigner friendly by default.
The sex info shops gets a finders fee. The rates are generally 1st time customer rates, but you can just keep switching shops. Or if it's a slow time most shops will still okay it. But as a foreigner I'm trying not to stretch my luck on everything. I'm here to see something I can't see in the US.
CCRider1008
11-16-24, 18:26
Your hotel or a love hotel. Many hotels won't support it, but the ones in the RLD like Kabukicho will. .In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.
LemonHead1
11-17-24, 00:52
Do any of the agencies offer FS? Do they just not talk about it on their websites? Any recommendations for a shop? I'm staying in Ueno. Thanks!
Do any of the agencies offer FS? Do they just not talk about it on their websites? Any recommendations for a shop? I'm staying in Ueno. Thanks!It is illegal for an agency to offer FS. So no agency is going to offer it. Some girls might privately in the room. Most won't. Many places will end the session and ban you if you ask for FS.
Many places will offer "AF" which is anal fucking. This is legal in Japan.
AF is on the menu at Tokyo Sexy MILF, Tokyo Amateur Escorts, Tokyo Hentai Club.
Sometimes you pay for AF but in the room the girl just sticks it in the other hole instead. Sometimes you really do get AF. Sometimes they look at your cock, say it's too big, refuse AF, and give you money back.
Just depends.
On the other hand FS is pretty much guaranteed at any soapland you walk into.
Casanova, GFE, and Marine Blue are some soaplands open to foreigners.
This is Japan.
In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.I never understand this. You can pay whatever level you want in Tokyo.
You can get a BBBJCIM for $25 or BBBJ / FS for $125 on the low end.
Or you can spend $5000 on the high end.
The scraps are sent overseas. And it's also illegal in a lot of countries. Not Japan.
With Delivery Services can you go to an office location to pick a girl for meeting later in evening? Are there girls at the offices you can see in person or is it just the same photos on the website? Website photos for outcall services seem horribly photoshopped in Tokyo, and I'm reading it's common to add at least 5 years to their age listed on website as well. Plus run risk as foreigner of the bait and switch to old lady that seems commonplace. You seem to have good luck with Delivery Services.If you go to a place like Tokyo Amateur Escorts the pics are accurate and so are the ages. Also couldn't be easier. Walk in or send a text. Pick a girl. Either have them sent to your hotel (never had a problem bringing girl to any hotel in Tokyo, high end, low end, business hotel -- just tell them come right up to the room or meet in lobby if key card required) or use the love hotel they suggest that is less than 1 minute walk from their store.
It's really one of the easiest places on earth. People make it difficult for some reason. It's sex. It's supposed to be fun.
In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.I've stayed at the granbell. Highly recommend. Very new and close to Golden Gai.
In Tokyo I'm staying at the Granbell Shinjuku so by all accounts they are girl friendly.
And your point about US mongering is well taken. It's ridiculous which is why I never do it here. Seeking from what I hear is up to $500 usd for a avg girl with a bad attitude. Rather read or watch a good football game or match. But nothing that a trip to the mecca of Thailand and then trying Japan won't solve. Japan is tourist first, girls second so looking forward to it regardless. Thanks for the advice.I've stayed at the granbell. Highly recommend. Very new and close to Golden Gai.
Traveler X
11-17-24, 20:06
The scraps are sent overseas. And it's also illegal in a lot of countries. Not Japan.Thanks for your posts, excellent info always.
I monger jgirls both countries. I'm just sharing my own experiences with Japan, it doesn't mean others will have it. The very worst jgirl in the US was somehow better than the best jgirl in Japan. I even filmed all of them. However, this has to do with the fact that there are so many mediocre shops in Japan willing to hire average girls in their 30's, and there is a ton of turnover of girls who are 20's but not up to par on service yet. So you gotta find a good shop in Japan, and it has to take foreigners. Most are not, is all I'm saying. You know how that is.
The worst jgirl in the US was cute and early 20s, attached photo below. Let me film absolutely everything. I was pretty happy but she didn't have quite the energy and charm other jgirls had. I'd even repeat with her. Two other jgirls starred in porn, but also young. I've passed 10 jgirls and will film my next one soon.
I got great service and in any case spent many years visiting glass booths, Shin Okubo (not Okubo park), and other places similar to Tobita, where you got maximum looks at least. For me, it was actually way better than soap or DH in Japan. Again, just my personal experience I believe others will be very happy with DH. People still PM'd me 5 years after they closed so I had to make this post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4192-Shin-Okubo-and-Koganecho-Hinodecho-areas!!&p=2927973&viewfull=1#post2927973
To be clear I only see jgirls at korgs where they have solid standards. Maybe that's the point, some shops in both countries have good standards, some do not. You'll see my first post to Japan was 20 years ago on this site. Ironically I got better experiences with kgirls in Japan than jgirls. But next time I visit I'll try out the higher end DH and soaps, I'm sure I'll break my streak then. I just couldn't justify paying 2x to 4x as much. I'd rather go to an oppai pub. I know my preference is unusual but that's my logic.
I found a few girls who toured the US worked at shops in Japan and they all worked at higher end places. Places only a few Japanese would afford, but they're there. It's worth checking out I'm just saying there are a ton of shops that suck on looks / age. It sure doesn't help that at places like Yoshiwara the vast majority won't take foreigners, and the ones that do drop more than half the girls. Even for my Japanese American friend who spoke moderate Japanese, which was pretty ridiculous.
There is fun to be had in Japan if you focus on the better shops is what I'm saying. But all the scraps are in Japan, too. In the US they openly advertise FS, bb, video. They will never advertise the first two in Japan as you know. The last one ironically is getting more popular thanks to the US. What a time, thanks for your update on that we vote with our wallets.
A starter soap like Kira Kira in Yokohama is $112 for 50 minutes, the service is excellent. The girls vary but you can expect a decent girl in her 30's, not a stunner. I recommend it to beginners so they can figure out if they want to drop $200 to $300 on the higher end shops with better looking girls. On DH including Tokyo Amateur specifically, people PM me of spending way more on upcharge, girls are negotiating GPS rates for FS when they think they can. Guys you have to haggle and I hate to say it but most girls will take a lot less than what I've been quoted. What they do is take one look at you and figure out what they'll ask. I don't have a good solution for this since every girl can ask different. A few girls do it for free, most girls should do it for 1 man if not 2. But they'll ask anything they think they can get.
The worst thing about Japan is the foreigner discrimination and English requirement. But as you know, foreigner-friendly places are getting more popular. But still not the norm. It is the single most common feedback of people who visit, apart from GPS quotes behind closed doors. Guys are being quoted 3 man and 4 man on top of the original fee for fs. Don't pay that. It is a long post explaining how to negotiate, but I would hold firm on less.
They don't do that in the US. And they let you film. I wrote the guides.
Several places in Japan have an option for filming. Tokyo Amateur Escorts, Tokyo Hentai Club, etc. They're open to foreigners too.
Had a great time with Junka Kamiki from Tokyo Amateur Escorts. Website pictures are amazingly close to what she actually looks like (see comparison between their pic and my pic below).
Walked in their Shibuya office. Guy seemed to remember me, had a new recommendation. At 22 years old she's fresh and perky as it gets. Nice tight body, beautiful face, silky black hair.
This her first adult job, so she is really an amateur! Low level English but it didn't hinder the experience at all. She was really wide eyed and open for it all.
Very submissive girl and actually seems to get into it. I mean, a girl can fake it but this one was dripping wet as soon as I started touching her slit.
Average BJ, very tight and clean hole. Body and beauty was the standout feature.
Paid a little extra for the video / photo option. Definitely worth it for the memories!Funny, I just saw her a couple of days ago myself. Picked her from the online lineup because of her time availability at 0900. Nice young lady. Whimpering orgasm when DATY. Allowed for the extras so enjoyed the tightness. She is so tiny it made my Johnson look huge LOL. Was outcall to my hotel in Shinjuku (Hilton) with zero issues, good comms with the store.
Traveler X
11-19-24, 04:51
Funny, I just saw her a couple of days ago myself. Picked her from the online lineup because of her time availability at 0900. Nice young lady. Whimpering orgasm when DATY. Allowed for the extras so enjoyed the tightness. She is so tiny it made my Johnson look huge LOL. Was outcall to my hotel in Shinjuku (Hilton) with zero issues, good comms with the store.Great to hear. If you are comfortable sharing, what did she charge for FS? The shop itself doesn't want to know or have anything to do with it. Same deal as the VIP in a US strip club, the club manager has to pretend nothing is going on in VIP and doesn't want to know. But we are allowed to post it here for other customers. On the sister site USAG, this is how we put power into the hands of customers to get the best rates with the best girls. Through intel.
Many DH girls will take 1 man or 2 man for FS, but some will ask for 3 or 4 knowing some of us have money. A few really do charge that much, a few don't do it at all. So some guys simply looked for Anal as an option and paid for it, then oops got into the wrong hole without having to negotiate the tip again. I get PMs from guys getting asked 3 or 4 man for FS. Probably from girls who would have been happy for less, but no way to know without negotiating or sharing intel. Hope that makes sense, raising awareness is the goal here. At soap you don't have to tip the girl, you'll get FS it's included.
BTW, 98% of questions asked here about soap and delivery health are answered by this worker in this interview. I've bookmarked where she explains the exact legal situation in Japan:
https://youtu.be/oyn-qEYUn68?t=1307
She answers a hundred questions asked by us in this interview. Why don't they advertise FS? Can you expect FS in soap? Can you expect FS in DH? How is FS negotiated in DH? Why do girls show their faces more on DH? Why does DH even exist? What are nomination fees? LINE? Special restrictions? Anal? Foreigner restrictions? Why? What do girls think of foreigners? Why are some girls not okay with foreigners? How is a girl's menu determined? How much are girls paid? What is the turnover rate? Why? What is the relation of JAV to fuzoku? How important are regulars? Age limit for SW? Unpleasant experience examples? Legal status of shops? Underground shops? Customer ages? Ideal customers? Course options? Overnights? Recruitment? A lot more.
In a different interview, she mentions sometimes she charges fs different depending on the guy. A few guys get it free, but most pay 1 or 2 man. Every girl has a different policy. It's one of the advantages of soapland, Tobita, and jgirls in the US, no negotiation everything is upfront.
Funny, I just saw her a couple of days ago myself. Picked her from the online lineup because of her time availability at 0900. Nice young lady. Whimpering orgasm when DATY. Allowed for the extras so enjoyed the tightness. She is so tiny it made my Johnson look huge LOL. Was outcall to my hotel in Shinjuku (Hilton) with zero issues, good comms with the store.Nice! Definitely a petite one with a tiny slot. Hirano Saya and Setsuna Higashino are two more with little pink holes.
Great to hear. If you are comfortable sharing, what did she charge for FS? The shop itself doesn't want to know or have anything to do with it. Same deal as the VIP in a US strip club, the club manager has to pretend nothing is going on in VIP and doesn't want to know. But we are allowed to post it here for other customers. On the sister site USAG, this is how we put power into the hands of customers to get the best rates with the best girls. Through intel.
The first girl I picked from the shop a few months ago charged 20 k (well, I said 20 and she agreed) for the add-on, while reminding me that it was illegal. I said that I wouldn't say anything if she didn't LOL. When discussing the add on with this second young lady I asked if 10 k was ok and she agreed. She also said that she would never bring it up because it is illegal, and that she'd been counseled by the shop once because somehow the shop found out that she had brought up extra fun possibilities. As always, YMMV and best of luck to all of us to enjoy what we enjoy. Be kind, it goes a long way!!
Traveler X
11-19-24, 21:19
The first girl I picked from the shop a few months ago charged 20 k (well, I said 20 and she agreed) for the add-on, while reminding me that it was illegal. I said that I wouldn't say anything if she didn't LOL. When discussing the add on with this second young lady I asked if 10 k was ok and she agreed. She also said that she would never bring it up because it is illegal, and that she'd been counseled by the shop once because somehow the shop found out that she had brought up extra fun possibilities. As always, YMMV and best of luck to all of us to enjoy what we enjoy. Be kind, it goes a long way!!Thank you, great info especially with a recent data point. Negotiating can be tricky because the typical guy is new to this and might cave if a girl asked for a higher number, thinking he might lose his chance if he tries to haggle. But knowing that most girls take 10 k or 20 k, it's best to do as you did and give the number yourself first. Instead of asking "How much". Both girls took your offer, that's my experience most of the time. Even if the 10 k girl asked for 20 k, that's still within your expectations.
Being kind is important as you say, make the girl feel safe and comfortable and negotiation shouldn't be hard. Both of you can have a good time and if you like the girl enough, you can get her LINE and invite her over when she is not working. Only do this if you really like the girl and her rate, make sure it is on her day off then nobody can complain. Otherwise, there are other girls you can see and you'll eventually find a better.
I want to help others who might be new to negotiating behind closed doors. We can learn a lot from US strip club negotiation tactics. In COI (City of Industry) 80% of girls do FS, and of those the vast majority will take 200. But certainly they'll ask guys for more if they think they can. So I will bring it up with the girl halfway through our VIP, when I am hard and ready. I'm careful to give the vibe of "I don't really need it" and it's just a spontaneous idea, for 200. Sometimes the girl speaks first, asking "Can I offer you more?" and I directly say I'll give her 200 for sex. Don't say "How much", which can end up higher. The last 4 girls all took 200 without hesitation or negotiation, it's their normal rate and they know if they haggle I really might back out and say nevermind. I actually would have backed out, which makes it easy to convey that vibe. Girls don't want to embarrass themselves to ask for 400 when you said 200, if they already think you'll say no. The VIP itself is anywhere from 120 to 180, it's fully nude and you can have a lot of fun touching her all over without FS. Hope that makes sense.
I've known guys at COI who brag about getting away with 100 or 120 for FS, but that was years ago and not a lot of girls do that anymore. I'm sure a few girls will still take it but not the better girls, and you'll have to walk away from many to get that. But their tactic was to say "That's all they have", and they mentally dig in by not bringing a dollar more in their pockets so they don't mistakenly give in to a higher number. Guys are free to try their own method, I just want to lay out all the options here. There's been many years of discussion on the USAG forum to really narrow down exactly what we should pay girls. We are here to share info. Remember that even though shops don't want to know about it, by the same token they are perfectly fine with FS happening "as long as they don't know". Exactly how a high mileage strip club works.
There are some young beautiful girls where it's going to be 400 or GPS territory. A few girls like Stormy and Cora could demand it, they were exceptionally good looking. Key word being exception. Their photos attached below just so we're clear what it takes to charge more than 200. Most girls can't and don't look anywhere as good as these two. Just how it is.
On the USAG sister site, we had a great ecosystem of mongers sharing intel on how much they paid. All the data points made it easier for us to go in to VIP and not overpay. I used to ask girls "how much" and got quoted numbers from 200 to 1000! Girls play hardball once they think you can pay more than usual. While you can't guarantee that saying a number first will work, it is better than asking how much because the latter implies you're flexible even if you're not. In Japan, working girls have often told me they charge 10 k or 20 k. I'm sure there are exceptions, plus girls who do it for free and girls who don't do it at all. As I said, I had PMs from people who got quoted a lot more, so sharing intel is one way to improve that. Maybe girls figure tourists can pay more, but that can probably be solved by these tactics.
Attached are two COI strippers who can charge 400 to bang even when 80% of girls charge 200. Stormy and Cora. Early 20's HYA. There are girls that will take 100 but you don't want to see them.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/rishi/763203/?list=vw5ckn
Saw this smoking hot girl listing in Tokyo; asked her if she's staying in Tokyo for a few days and she said yes. Then same day she changed her listing from Tokyo to Israel??
Is this a scam? She has a verified tag. Is it too good to be true? She looks more like a model than an escort.
Traveler X
11-20-24, 16:27
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/rishi/763203/?list=vw5ckn
Saw this smoking hot girl listing in Tokyo; asked her if she's staying in Tokyo for a few days and she said yes. Then same day she changed her listing from Tokyo to Israel??
Is this a scam? She has a verified tag. Is it too good to be true? She looks more like a model than an escort.
It's a scam. You don't need to ask other people to figure that out, she changed her location, and lots of scammers like 'her' exist. They will probably ask you for a deposit and never show. There are other variations but they all end up asking you for money without meeting. You've made a lot of posts asking the same question about an eurogirlsescort ad but the answer is the same:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950261&viewfull=1#post2950261 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950183&viewfull=1#post2950183 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950163&viewfull=1#post2950163 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949757&viewfull=1#post2949757 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949574&viewfull=1#post2949574 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949392&viewfull=1#post2949392 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949146&viewfull=1#post2949146 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949104&viewfull=1#post2949104 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2948908&viewfull=1#post2948908 Yes, a scam
The best solution is to find a shop you like and stick with them. I've run into scammers myself and it is just a waste of time. Why do people fall for them? Well, they put up hot pictures. This quote by you perfectly sums it up:
Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls. - AsapRocky
Wise words. There is no solution to the fake account problem, it's the risk with independents. They will never actually show btw they will just ask you to send money. They are nowhere near Japan. All they need is 1 in 20 people to fall for it.
It's a scam. You don't need to ask other people to figure that out, she changed her location, and lots of scammers like 'her' exist. They will probably ask you for a deposit and never show. There are other variations but they all end up asking you for money without meeting. You've made a lot of posts asking the same question about an eurogirlsescort ad but the answer is the same:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950261&viewfull=1#post2950261 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950183&viewfull=1#post2950183 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2950163&viewfull=1#post2950163 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949757&viewfull=1#post2949757 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949574&viewfull=1#post2949574 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949392&viewfull=1#post2949392 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949146&viewfull=1#post2949146 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2949104&viewfull=1#post2949104 Yes, a scam
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2948908&viewfull=1#post2948908 Yes, a scam
The best solution is to find a shop you like and stick with them. I've run into scammers myself and it is just a waste of time. Why do people fall for them? Well, they put up hot pictures. This quote by you perfectly sums it up:
Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls. - AsapRocky
Wise words. There is no solution to the fake account problem, it's the risk with independents. They will never actually show btw they will just ask you to send money. They are nowhere near Japan. All they need is 1 in 20 people to fall for it.Ok I was a bit in denial.
What website can I find real girls of model quality like the pictures they have?
I find that legitimate girls are not as hot as those models they've shown.
Traveler X
11-21-24, 04:48
Ok I was a bit in denial.
What website can I find real girls of model quality like the pictures they have?
I find that legitimate girls are not as hot as those models they've shown.It's kind of a contradiction. There are few model level girls actually working, I hope that's obvious to everyone. But of those girls, most of them don't use real photos for privacy. So when you see clear model level photos, it's fake. Hope that makes sense.
I've mentioned before most of the girls at this shop photo accurate:
https://gingira.jp/gal.html
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html
But if you want 100% foreigner friendly for every girl on staff, there are sites others have posted like Tokyo Amateur and such. However, those girls are not going to post model level photos. Either because 95% of them aren't model level or because the 5% of those who are are never going to post their real photos!
I know because I've met girls from those shops, only they were working at a different shop such as in the US. When I look up their photo on the website, it has photoshop or other edits. Not to make them look better or worse, but simply for privacy. Their photos give an accurate representation of the girl. Can't be said for some other shops.
There are shops with even better girls, including JAV stars. Like Tora no Ana. But don't bother, you should speak Japanese and there is a ranking system for girls where you have to book their entry-tier girls first before being approved to see their better girls like AIKA. But if you have the time and can speak enough Japanese, it's possible to book some JAV stars after ranking up their system as a customer.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7036765&viewfull=1#post7036765
RonnieMonger
11-21-24, 08:43
I've been following this thread with interest. There's lots of very useful information for first timers in Tokyo / Japan. I've been to Tokyo a few times and only managed one successful monger, and it was a tout who led me to a Chinese woman who looked like I was her 10th customer of the day and she was basically a starfish. That was at least ten years ago. The info below about the two Soapies with Japanese girls dedicated to foreigners is interesting and alluring. However, after reading all the below, and reviewing the websites of GFE and Hentai, as far as I can tell, $200-400 USD for a CBD at best, and maybe, and only if you're lucky, a bit more, seems a waste of time and money. The hostesss bars are a sucker's paradise (or licker's paradise), but hardly worth it to me as there's no release after the build up. Just a lot of money spent (yes, others have a different view). I was seriously considering another attempt this week, but I think after reading all this and looking at those two websites, I'll pass and wait for Thailand coming up soon after. Maybe Tinder or similar would be a better shot for a Tokyo hook up.
I've been following this thread with interest. There's lots of very useful information for first timers in Tokyo / Japan. I've been to Tokyo a few times and only managed one successful monger, and it was a tout who led me to a Chinese woman who looked like I was her 10th customer of the day and she was basically a starfish. That was at least ten years ago. The info below about the two Soapies with Japanese girls dedicated to foreigners is interesting and alluring. However, after reading all the below, and reviewing the websites of GFE and Hentai, as far as I can tell, $200-400 USD for a CBD at best, and maybe, and only if you're lucky, a bit more, seems a waste of time and money. The hostesss bars are a sucker's paradise (or licker's paradise), but hardly worth it to me as there's no release after the build up. Just a lot of money spent (yes, others have a different view). I was seriously considering another attempt this week, but I think after reading all this and looking at those two websites, I'll pass and wait for Thailand coming up soon after. Maybe Tinder or similar would be a better shot for a Tokyo hook up.Best to avoid any street touts in Japan. Also best to avoid Chinese / Korean providers.
If you want guaranteed legal FS for cheap you can go to a low-end soapland like Ikebukuro Bunny Girls for 20000 Yen which is closer to 100 USD than 200 USD. GFE soapland also has a quicky option for the same price.
If you want cheap legal blowjob you can go to Jan Jan. For $25 USD.
If you want cheap legal BJ with anal you can go to Tokyo Amateur for 27,000 Yen. That's well under 200 USD.
Lot of options if you are cheap.
But even better options if you have some money to spend.
At the same time you can easily spend 7000 Baht short time on a go go dancer in Thailand. What's that? A little over 200 USD.
I have to say I don't understand why someone would go to the world's 3rd largest economy if they were on a limited budget though. Or why someone would travel at all. If I was hurting financially I can't imagine going half way around the world to pay for sex. IMHO.
Ok I was a bit in denial.
What website can I find real girls of model quality like the pictures they have?
I find that legitimate girls are not as hot as those models they've shown.Stick with a trusted and legal Japanese agency, not fly by nighters who posts on random websites.
RonnieMonger
11-22-24, 00:31
You're making several wrong assumptions.
I'm not afraid to spend money. But want to assure I'm getting "value" for my money. That was my point. And I'm not traveling 'half way around the world' to Japan just for sex or p4 p, I'm passing through on my way to guaranteed value for money elsewhere. This is a stopover. IMO it's gotten a bit better here for the average westerner over last 20 years, but it has a long way to go. It's still highly xenophobic in every day life. And the sex scene, while improving, is still run in the shadows for foreigners where as Japanese men have no such concerns and their SPs know to perform in every way to satisfy Japanese men. Nothing off the table. You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?
Thanks.
RM.
Best to avoid any street touts in Japan. Also best to avoid Chinese / Korean providers.
If you want guaranteed legal FS for cheap you can go to a low-end soapland like Ikebukuro Bunny Girls for 20000 Yen which is closer to 100 USD than 200 USD. GFE soapland also has a quicky option for the same price.
If you want cheap legal blowjob you can go to Jan Jan. For $25 USD.
If you want cheap legal BJ with anal you can go to Tokyo Amateur for 27,000 Yen. That's well under 200 USD.
Lot of options if you are cheap.
But even better options if you have some money to spend.
At the same time you can easily spend 7000 Baht short time on a go go dancer in Thailand. What's that? A little over 200 USD.
I have to say I don't understand why someone would go to the world's 3rd largest economy if they were on a limited budget though. Or why someone would travel at all. If I was hurting financially I can't imagine going half way around the world to pay for sex. IMHO.
Traveler X
11-23-24, 05:50
I'm not afraid to spend money. But want to assure I'm getting "value" for my money. That was my point. And I'm not traveling 'half way around the world' to Japan just for sex or p4 p, I'm passing through on my way to guaranteed value for money elsewhere. This is a stopover. IMO it's gotten a bit better here for the average westerner over last 20 years, but it has a long way to go. It's still highly xenophobic in every day life. And the sex scene, while improving, is still run in the shadows for foreigners where as Japanese men have no such concerns and their SPs know to perform in every way to satisfy Japanese men. Nothing off the table. You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?Maybe I can help. I'm the same way, I only care about value. I can bang great jgirls in the USA now, at long last. All I need is to be able to speak English. Whereas the requirement in Japan was I should speak Japanese. If you were in the USA and could only speak Japanese, they would never let you see a jgirl. I know this for a fact. None of the direct shop staff speak a word of Japanese so they can't screen you for trouble, it's the same thing.
I only go to Japan for "everything else" besides fs. To be clear what that is, it's 80% of this list:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666
Japan is the best at most of that list. When you go to Japan, you order sushi not McDonald's. Order what they are good at, that's how you get good value. I also go to Japan for friends, sightseeing, food, and to meet jgirls I met working in the USA. Girls I know who are beautiful, really cool, and sexually compatible. A few work for the very foreigner-only shops mentioned, but I meet them by LINE not the shop. I would NOT go to Japan just for sex, but I think if you happen to be there on your way, makes sense to try something and get good value. I've gone to Japan 20 times in 20 years, my advice is to never go to non-Japanese establishments. No matter your language level.
Tokyo Hentai Club, GFE, and Tokyo Amateur are all examples of "foreigner only" services. They are newer. I've long commented about changing trends, way more shops are foreigner friendly than years ago. But it is still the minority. However there are now some places where most of the customers do not speak any Japanese. English, Chinese, and Korean are the three most common languages catered to. At Luxe oppai pub sometimes the majority were English speakers, I assume Americans or British. All races white, black, Asian foreigners.
My first post here on ISG was in 2004, 20 years ago. I said it back then and I say it now the same, never follow the touts especially the Nigerian ones. You may have missed the reason. Nigerian touts are notorious scammers who will take you to a bar and drug you if they think they can. Or scam you normally otherwise. The other Asian touts, many who are not Japanese, at least don't do this. But they do B+S and in any case their shops are no good. Just to be clear, this was my advice even when I could barely speak any Japanese, posting 20 years ago. Do not follow the touts. The best you can hope for is a tourist trap. Btw, this is the exact same reason you don't follow certain tuk-tuks in Thailand.
I did find a Chinese tout and at least he wasn't a scammer like the Nigerians. But 9 of the shops he took me to fucking sucked. Just like your experience. 1 of them was legit good. I wrote about this before. Not following RLD touts is literally the one and only thing I warn people not to do in Japan. I warned about it 20 years ago, I'm warning about it again now.
I had fun not speaking Japanese, getting into the few Japanese establishments I could. This was before places that actually catered to foreigners, like Tokyo Amateur or Luxe oppai pub. I got really great value for my money, an oppai pub was 10 times cheaper than a US strip club, and I could kiss the girls. Since I like Asians, they were way hotter to me. Important point, if you don't like Asians it's not a good value. The things I did in Japan I would not do in Thailand, but that's just my preference. I know most guys aren't into oppai pubs, they want FS. I have consistently and repeatedly said Japan is not great for FS as a travel destination. You can find 20 posts of mine explaining why, so I'm not going to repeat it all. But for those who are already in Japan, it makes sense and I like to help people and show them how to get the most value for it.
By the way, a Nigerian tout grabbed me hard by the arm as I walked past them. I was minding my own business walking Kabukicho and since it was late hours with no business one guy did just that in desperation. I yelled at him loudly to let me go and he did. I guess he is used to guys who just cave in and listen to his sales pitch like this, WTF. I was pretty surprised but later met and found other people this happened to. I also saw 4 Nigerian touts grab a woman's purse and run, 3 of them lookouts. In Roppongi I met plenty of nicer Nigerians, club bouncers and staff, perfect gentlemen. The crooks all work in Kabukicho apparently. I've written about all this before. You are safe if you just keep walking, especially before midnight.
To lighten the mood, here are some photos of Gingira Tokyo girls who have a big O next to 'international customer' meaning you and I can book them. Check the weekly schedule since girls don't work always. Things have changed since years back, now the majority of girls are O. Triangle means a maybe. X means they only take tiny dicks, so don't be jealous.
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html
https://gingira.jp/gal.html
https://gingira.jp/movie/ALL
The girls randomly featured are: Aloha, Riria, Iroha, An, Ere, Riria, Reo, Seika. Feel free and visit them before I do and loosen them up, I will try to visit in Spring and clean up.
Sylvestor2001
11-24-24, 17:50
Everyone wants something a little different. Are you looking for FS or sampling something unique? Japan has a lot of different levels of play. I'll try to summarize them below. My hope is to visit Japan again May 2025 but not confirmed yet.
Shop types
Maid cafe = No alcohol. Girls in costumes come and call you master and serve you curry and other simple dishes, etc. You can pay for a polaroid with them and play other games and activities. There are many variants based on them, often based on the type of costume. But the basic idea is the same. Very tame.
Hostess club = Old fashioned club where you talk to ladies and get served alcohol and compliments. They light your cigarettes, remember your birthday, laugh at your jokes. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you. Some offer takeout UTR but that is between you and the girl only and not the main draw. This is for older gentlemen that want to be entertained and served with reverence the way their wife at home doesn't.
Girls bar = This is a new style club where you chat with girls and drink alcohol. Girl is similar to hostess and they rotate, or sometimes they are the bartender. Girls tend to be cuter and younger, with less expectation on talking skill. They laugh at your jokes, it is more friendly and casual than hostess club. Vast majority are no touch but girls might gently touch you.
Oppai bar = Touching and kissing anything above the waist is allowed including, sucking on tits and kissing the girl. The most common system is 3 girls every 40 minutes. Many sub-variants to this including costumes and themes but the idea is the same. For example there are sexy cabarets where the girls line up on a stage and you pick the girl by number and they call the girl down. Like a girls bar, girls tend to be hotter and younger than hostess clubs.
BJ / HJ bar = There are too many variants to describe, but as I said in the other post there are some that will send you 2 or 3 girls in a row. Some operate more like soapland lite where you have less options than soapland. Sometimes ordered a la carte (ex. The same girl might offer BJ or HJ, upcharge for certain acts, etc.).
Fetish club = There are too many variants to describe, but for example at one shop I walk into a room and 2-3 schoolgirls are blindfolded and chained for me. I can harass them for 5 minutes until I pick which girl to take upstairs. Then it becomes plain old soapland, maybe sumatra the standard course. Another example is where they are on a train complete with special effects in the frosted windows as if you are riding the train. They hold on to the handle and ignore you completely as you harass them.
Delivery Health = You reserve a time (and usually a girl), and then go to a hotel and let them know where to meet. They then come to your place, your hotel, or more often a love hotel. FS is not guaranteed but you can negotiate in the room.
Soapland = Incall, sex is generally guaranteed but technically you are only paying for time (FS is illegal but you get it anyways), so sometimes the girl sees you are a noob and just says "time up". Ask for sex in that case, I've always gotten it.
Streetwalkers / Tachinbo = In some areas girls will stand around and you can take them to your hotel.
There's a lot more but those are the common ones. I mean for example I saw a new one which is called 'robot delivery' where the girl comes to your place to bang but she doesn't say a single word. Sounds like heaven for an introvert.
These options are very regional, with some cities and areas much better and common for certain shops.
Related guides
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927559&viewfull=1#post2927559 My main guide on oppai pubs, recommend as cheap fun with cute girls and great service you can't have outside of Japan.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688 Oppai pubs.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927714&viewfull=1#post2927714 Oppai pubs.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852&viewfull=1#post6992852 Handjobs for $13 and blowjobs for $26, very cute girls
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099 More about cheap handjobs and blowjobs (it was a phase for me).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933352#post2933352 FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2932207&viewfull=1#post2932207 FS.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621 Kira Kira, a cheap and foreigner-friendly soap in Yokohama.
Fun in Tokyo region
If you want a cheap and easy soapland to try out that is foreigner friendly with no gaijin tax, Kira Kira in Yokohama is a good start. They have rule sheets in Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese. There are much more expensive options all around Tokyo.
Walking around busy parts of Japan after 6pm, you are going to see girls holding up signs. You can see in the first photo below 3 girls with signs listing the price hanging on their necks. Like they were puppies on sale. That's hot. It shows it's a 3000 yen "special entry rate" for a girl's bar / pub. If I had to pick two girls, I would pick the girl on the right twice. Just saying.
Girls with signs are most often advertising for girls' bars or maid cafes where you chat with cute girls. Chat only. Girls who don't hold up signs are more often going to be offering somethings else, there are a lot of varieties. For example on a few streets I will encounter Chinese girls calling out "massagu" - massage. Hjs are sometimes possible but the cuter girls tend to only offer massage and the lightest extras. Don't be shy to ask if a girl offers HJ / BJ they will just say so. Walk past them and on many streets I will see newhalfs and such at the end, sometimes with touts. There may also be streetwalkers, sometimes with touts sometimes on their own. There is an etiquette where they may be evenly spaced out so you can talk with them in private. They are used to getting harassed by lookie-loos so they will only respond to serious offers. Do not approach random women, there are known spots. People stand around in Japan all the time, don't assume. Okubo Park in Kabukicho is one of them.
For nampa Shibuya and Roppongi are best. Roppongi especially Friday and Saturday nights at the club areas. It isn't always easy but I picked up girls without planning to, but it can be time consuming. It's not really my thing, I'd rather spend my time having fun and pay to play. Then if I find a shop or girl I like, I can see them whenever I like. Other than FS the options are pretty cheap and easy.
With girls holding up signs, when business is slow like early hours 6 pm-9 pm the girls stand out to advertise so if you pick that girl you get to start with her.
Oppai pubs are where you get 3 girls in 40 minutes, all you can drink beer. Go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku for them. Each girl comes by and you can chat and touch or have them straddle you. I usually start by having them put their legs over mine, some girls will be heels off. Second half they drop their tops and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. You can buy them drinks (basically the way to tip them) or extend with a girl you like. I once extended repeatedly with a girl all night because she was a 10 out of 10 for me, 20 years old. I won't go into details but kissing her was amazing. Depending on if you buy them drinks or extend a girl the price is minimum 6000 yen (if you go before rush our like 9 pm) ranging up to 12000 yen (you buy drinks and extend) per 40 minutes ($40 to $80). You can't get that service at a US strip club for those prices, let along with young girls that flatter you and laugh at your jokes. As I said in my other post one girl hopped on my lap and apologized for being 25 years old. Not the first time I got that, 25 is considered old for an oppai pub. I forgave her.
The reason some hot girls work oppai pubs is it pays double to triple hostess / girl's pub rates without requiring their pussy. There is no tipping but you buy them drinks, and some guys will buy the next level drink which is champagne such as Dom Prignon, coasting about $670. Literally 10 x as much as I was spending just to simp. Or renting a VIP room. So in a way, it's basically speed dating to find a simp! That's where the real money is, if they find those whales they're making more money than even FS work. If the whale is big enough and just starts dating her as a mistress, then even more than US FS work. Some girls do just that and quit a few weeks later. But until they do, you can lick their tits.
Most customers don't realize this is the end game, it's the same way casinos make most of their money off the whales. Every time I went I was amazed that one or two customers among the 10-20 were whales buying Dom Prignon or champagne towers. With the added sparklers and cheering from staff, it made it a bit awkward for me to turn back to my girl and keep sucking on her tits. But I did.
2nd and 3rd photo is Rito from Hosekinobako, the 2nd hottest girl I saw this year. I only post real photos that is her. She has tiny feet she rested bare on my leg, she is a great kisser too. No hesitation for play whatsoever so after she gave me her card I asked for her the next visit. The staff loudly announced it for all the other girls to hear "Rito was nominated, Rito was nominated". Surreal. I do not have a photo for the hottest girl because she had just started. Another girl I made out with for 3 hours, pictured next. She also did not have a shop photo so I included her photo from another shop. The great thing about all you can drink beer and buying the girl drinks you just keep getting more handsome and the girl even better. But she was adorable to start, she was brand new and when kissing would open her eyes and look left and right. I taught her how to kiss better and while you don't touch the girl's bottom unless she invites you, I could press myself against her as she straddled me. She has cute eyes, just wide open the moment we started kissing until we took a break. I'll never forget.
Next photo is the Leicester lineup. Those were the actual girls, I kissed 3 of them. Maybe you can kiss them all. Next is a photo of girls at a girl's pub (this one is a girls' bar where they are the bartenders), faces covered. If you actually go, they will take selfies with you so hiding the face is just a teaser.
The other thing is in Japan there are rip-off prices sky high, either for rich Japanese who care about a luxurious room or gaijin who don't know better and can't speak Japanese. So when you see crazy prices, those are tourist prices and you can ignore them. They don't represent Japan prices (see Kirakira for the lower end of prices basically $125/$181).
At Kirakira Yokohama soapland (FS), the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($125), 70 minutes for 26000 ($181), which is on the cheaper side for Japan but not far off. Girls range from mid-20's to mid-30's, decent but not like the jgirls we get by a significant gap. The hottest girl there wouldn't even qualify in the US, even though you'd be happy and she'd worship you like a King. Soapland service is good, but not quite kgirl good. But that is still world class to be clear (I consider kgirl service to also be world class, especially the milfs).
One reason I suggest KiraKira is a lot of Tokyo places are either expensive, don't allow foreigners (or many girls don't take foreigners), or charge a hefty foreigner tax. See the 'price list' with orange border below. One is the Japanese price, the other is the foreigner price. You have to pay 60%-80% more for the exact same service, which is already more expensive to begin with. Not at Kira Kira.
Another photo is of the price list at a BJ / HJ shop. It is one girl you pick almost like a soapland lite, then pick your upcharges. These are Tokyo prices, I have seen much better deals in cheaper cities.
Good to be king
Bonus first photo is of girl from Hadaka no Ousama, real photo said she was 22. Literally anything goes except dick in pussy. You pick 1-3 girls and enter the fun room together. FIV encouraged as long as you are gentle and sanitize.
Hadaka no Ousama translates to "Emperor with no clothes" or "The naked King". The Ousama game in Japanese culture means one person is king and everyone does what they say (like Simon says). Except in this case the King has to be naked. Ask the girls to suck you in alphabetical order, or point and gesture if your Japanese is limited. Issue official proclamations as King. Okay I was young at the time and it was a phase.You are legend, thanks a lot in advance.
Traveler X
11-25-24, 10:13
You are legend, thanks a lot in advance.
I want to highlight the exact Manzoku shop I use when I go to Japan. I speak Japanese when I visit but I'm pretty sure English-only is fine. The thing is, the staff there are 3rd party 'neutral' and know 100% which shops will let you in. They make money taking you to the shop you want, they have no relationship with the shop. They want you to be happy and use them again, and I've used them with success for 20 years. This is why you don't need to follow touts (it's a gamble), go to a reputable store. Manzoku took me to Luxe, Leicester, and Hosekinobako which are all walking distance.
So I walk in and I'll look at all their posters on the wall, asking about the oppai pubs and picking one. The staff will make a phone call to the shop and ask "Hi, may I introduce a customer? He is a Japanese speaking foreigner" They only take people to legit Japanese establishments because they rely on repeat visitors. They are upfront with communication, like sometimes the shop might say back "Sorry there will be a 20 minute wait is that okay?" and you decide okay or not. Around 6pm-8pm the wait is because girls are still showing up - you will not pay for the waiting time and can drink free beer and maybe snacks. Around 10pm-1am it will be because I and other guys are cockblocking you, keeping the girls busy. Fair enough right.
Also, Manzoku will get you the best rate by far because it is so competitive. Luxe for example is officially 13k cover charge, don't ever pay it. If I go to Manzoku then it is 6k or 8k "newbie special promo rate", $52. Try kissing three US strippers for $52 total. Note that every oppai pub offers the exact same promo rate because of competition. Imagine if McDonald's, Burger King, and Carl's Junior all offered you their most popular burger for the exact same price of $2.50 as a first time customer. All you do is show up to a 'burger consultant' who walks you to the nearest shop, then the shop gives them back $.50 for the referral. But the burger is really $5 normally. That's how weird it is.
Sorry for being 24
Of course on 2nd visits you can use any discount card a girl gives you. Use the card for the girl you like, or if the girl isn't there that day they profusely apologize but say you can keep the card (for next time) and they will honor the discounted rate. They repeatedly apologized to me but I'm like man it's all good I don't care just bring me 3 new girls aged 18-24. At Leicester one girl literally apologized for being 24 years old before hopping on me. I forgave her.
One of the 3 girls is usually just my type. I have heard Luxe has a lower success rate for hotties, maybe I love Japanese women so much because I liked every girl. If you don't like Japanese women, don't even go.
This is technically a "first time rate" but if things are slow the Manzoku staff will call the shop and say "May I introduce you to a customer? It's his 2nd time, is it okay?" (to get the promo rate). If you go 6pm-9pm on a weekday, it's probably a yes. They know which shops have Japanese-only (it was maybe 20% of shops so long as you speak Japanese, 70% if you don't) and what other weird race restrictions there are. Their main specialty is referring hostess clubs and oppai pubs, but there is a small section on the wall listing some fetish clubs where you can expect at least bj. Nobody in all of Japan can ever advertise fs, if someone does it's a shady shop and probably not Japanese run.
By the way, check out the Kabukicho Hentai Club web ad. At the bottom it says 'Teens-20s', WTF Japan. They don't give a damn, that's how they roll. But really, when they say 18-20, what they really mean is 20-35. We all know that already, right? Cool.
Navigating Kabukicho
Google street maps are very useful, but keep in mind they are often 2 years old so things change. Plus google photos are from daytime which looks totally different including things being shuttered. Luxe is not on the google street photos yet since they're from 2022. But from Manzoku you can actually see Luxe, it's 1 minute walk. Hosekinobako is like a 6 minute walk with a street crossing and the guy sucks his teeth lol. Nothing good comes easy. There are multiple Manzoku shops but to find this one I find the central Family Mart and it's really close. Manzoku is the shop with the giant black bat. A different shop photo (pink) was a 'English friendly' information booth but things change all the time. I saw it this year.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ib6koc4DajqdimHs5 Manoku information station.
I always remind people that fs (full sex) is not my thing, I go out of curiosity to compare with the USA. See my post in the Yokohama section for Kira Kira which is a good 'first time' experience cheap and you can then decide if you like it or not, low risk. Yokohama station is a 35 minute train ride from Shibuya. I think most people can come out of the experience saying they had fun and it was something very novel and reasonably priced. Others are happy to repeat. Some will 'level up' with other soapland or delivery health.
I still kind of prefer Kira Kira because they are cheap and the service is good. I can get cuter girls at oppai pubs later, maybe I'm weird but that's how I roll. Btw Kira Kira now has an English website for foreigners
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459 My new guide on Kira Kira
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira foreigner portal
https://kirakira.yokohama/ Kira Kira Yokohama Japanese site. About 45 minutes from Shibuya by fastest train with a change in lines
Kira Kira soapland in Yokohama for beginners
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927621&viewfull=1#post2927621 My first post on ISG in 20 years (since 2004)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927767&viewfull=1#post2927767 Yes, you can pick
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2927911&viewfull=1#post2927911 Yes, you can bang
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2928088&viewfull=1#post2928088 Yes, you can stay
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2928224&viewfull=1#post2928224 Yes, photos are real but real photos still fool
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2928007&viewfull=1#post2928007 The only thing I don't know
Let's show some love for other shops, both 'foreigner okay' and 'foreigner only'. I am only an expert on oppai pubs not fs, this list here is for your own research of places that other people had success at. For people that already graduated from 'Kira Kira' and want to level up.
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
Ed Haskell
11-25-24, 23:40
I want to highlight the exact Manzoku shop I use when I go to Japan. I speak Japanese when I visit but I'm pretty sure English-only is fine. The thing is, the staff there are 3rd party 'neutral' and know 100% which shops will let you in. They make money taking you to the shop you want, they have no relationship with the shop. They want you to be happy and use them again, and I've used them with success for 20 years. This is why you don't need to follow touts (it's a gamble), go to a reputable store. Manzoku took me to Luxe, Leicester, and Hosekinobako which are all walking distance.
Let's show some love for other shops, both 'foreigner okay' and 'foreigner only'. I am only an expert on oppai pubs not fs, this list here is for your own research of places that other people had success at. For people that already graduated from 'Kira Kira' and want to level up.
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..Outstanding report, TravelerX, very helpful. I'm headed back to Tokyo for the first time in years, and looking for something different than the Yoshiwara or Jan Jan. I used Hentai Club a number of times years ago when they had some stunning mixed Japanese-Peruvian girls, but the current lineup doesn't look great to me, plus they no longer have the store in Shibuya, and I prefer not to haul my ass all the way to Shinjuku.
I had never heard of Gingira, but it looks like a great lineup. My question though. Is there an actual storefront, or is this takeway / phone ordering only? I could not find any physical location for it, but I prefer to go into the shop and view more photos, and usually there are love hotels nearby. Having them come to my hotel is a bit awkward because of the keycard for the lift.
Thanks for the advice.
You mentioned a number of places I wasn't aware of before in your post below. Are these all open to westerners (who don't speak Japanese)? Or only places you and a few of your American Japanese friends manage to talk your way into?I'm not Japanese or Asian.
Every place I listed is open to English speaking foreigners.
Even penny pinchers.
Traveler X
11-26-24, 06:49
I had never heard of Gingira, but it looks like a great lineup. My question though. Is there an actual storefront, or is this takeway / phone ordering only? I could not find any physical location for it, but I prefer to go into the shop and view more photos, and usually there are love hotels nearby. Having them come to my hotel is a bit awkward because of the keycard for the lift.
Thanks for the advice.I know Gingira because of a girl but meet her direct rather than the shop. However because of that and seeing her ad photos and shop updates among other things, I know they are legit. She is 22 for example, quite good looking. I will in the future try their shop for other girls, assuming the girl I'm seeing isn't going to monopolize me (I doubt she will).
If your hotel doesn't support it, you need to book your girl and say the love hotel, then go to the love hotel, check in, and call them to tell them your room number. So you want to plan ahead of time. I can't answer how well they communicate in English but they have an English website with a booking system so it should be okay. This is one benefit of the 'foreigner only' ones. But I'm determined to try other girls next visit so I'll report back some day. As I said, my expertise is in all the middle-action clubs (oppai pubs to fetish), not maid cafes or FS.
I think other experts can explain the DH booking system better (or a foreigner-friendly one's FAQ might do):
https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/
See section 7 on the Love Hotel meetup which is common. Shibuya is full of them and it's maybe ~4000 yen for 90 or 120 minutes. Certainly if you're in Shinjuku you can get streetwalkers and bring them back to your hotel direct. I've linked to other reports pages back on that. And I've even picked up regular girls to bring back before. I was a total noob but in Roppongi and I hear Shibuya it's possible. I wrote out what happened, I won't rehash it all look back a few pages.
BTW, Gingira lately has added movie and gravure sections to highlight girls. For those who can't fly to Japan or book but are thirsty nonetheless:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/
For those who haven't tried any fs in Japan, I do think Kira Kira is a good start. Almost like fast food easy, 70 minutes of play including nuru. The girls are decent looking, not amazing but good enough, the price is reasonable and the service is good, they will worship you. I never quite get tired of it. They've raised the prices to 31k for 70 minutes ($200) which is still cheap and includes fs without negotiation.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631 Kira Kira Yokohama first experience
If you like it, you can level up for more luxurious options in Tokyo whether soapland or delivery health. Attached is a nicer soapland room. You tend to get what you pay for, but reserving a girl can up your chances.
JohnWick6969
11-26-24, 07:28
For those who haven't tried any fs in Japan, I do think Kira Kira is a good start. Almost like fast food easy, 70 minutes of play including nuru. The girls are decent looking, not amazing but good enough, the price is reasonable and the service is good, they will worship you. I never quite get tired of it. They've raised the prices to 31k for 70 minutes ($200) which is still cheap and includes fs without So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?
Traveler X
11-26-24, 17:32
So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?$200 is cheap for 70 minutes soapland. It's more than just FS in my opinion. Also, Kira Kira is Yokohama, which is 35 minutes from Shibuya of Tokyo. Best to see my journal description of my first Kira Kira experience with Mona. I've repeated since and it's always great service, not just a bang. The course varies but we hopped in the bath and she sucked me (first me up on her knees then me standing), then we did nuru gel play on an inflatable mattress, then normal sex at the bed, then cuddling and chatting. We could make a good connection, anyone who is nice and reasonable might do the same. Since we vibed well I could get her LINE if I wanted to see her again, but I prefer to fly free like a butterfly. So soap involves being worshipped by the girl the whole 70 minutes. I've never once got that at 'just a FS' place, in 20 years. There's a reason people specifically choose soapland, especially older guys.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631 My first time to Kira Kira 2023.
Long ago I've been offered FS for $70-$100 in Japan at a corg but the girls weren't to my liking. I believe the right word is ugly, but that's just my experience I visited 10 different corg shops and 9 sucked. So it's not just 'luck' in my opinion. What do I mean by 'just a FS' place? There also used to be glass houses in Yokohama like Amsterdam where you coould pick Chinese girls to bang for $70, I did that many times long ago. But it no longer exists. Girls give you 15 minutes so yes it's cheaper if you ONLY want to bang, but soapland is actually way better for 70 minutes of reverent worship. Plus the glass houses were demolished long ago. Today in the year 2024 what you should do is to pick soapland or delivery health, and it's going to be $200 or more. Each one has its advantage, my other posts compare them.
Here is my post reminding people that glass houses no longer exist in Easter Japan (try Tobita in Osaka for the closest thing):
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4192-Shin-Okubo-and-Koganecho-Hinodecho-areas!!&p=2927973&viewfull=1#post2927973 The mayor of Yokohama promised to demolish glass houses, then resigned for a hostess scandal
Shin Okubo and Okubo park are not the same place. Shin Okubo is a small koreatown not far from Shinjuku. Okubo park has streetwalkers who may or may not pleasure you at your hotel. If there happens to be a thai girl or someone standing that speaks English, you can invite her back to your room and I and others have no idea what the two of you in private might say or then do. It is a complicated discussion but you are legally safe to do this, Japanese law doesn't punish the john (unless the girl is underage) and in any case does not allow investigation once it becomes private (between just two people). This is a one sentence summary of everything, hope that helps.
Not my thing, but others have written about it. You will just have to read back a few pages. If you aren't willing to do that, it's not for you then.
JohnWick6969
11-26-24, 18:54
Ok thanks a lot for your feedback mate. Very informative.
Ed Haskell
11-26-24, 23:32
I know Gingira because of a girl but meet her direct rather than the shop. However because of that and seeing her ad photos and shop updates among other things, I know they are legit. She is 22 for example, quite good looking. I will in the future try their shop for other girls, assuming the girl I'm seeing isn't going to monopolize me (I doubt she will).
If your hotel doesn't support it, you need to book your girl and say the love hotel, then go to the love hotel, check in, and call them to tell them your room number.
If you like it, you can level up for more luxurious options in Tokyo whether soapland or delivery health. Attached is a nicer soapland room. You tend to get what youSorry, but can you clarify if Gingira has an actual shop, and where it is? I'm not sure if this place is phone only.
I do know of some love hotels around the old THC office in Shibuya, but I don't know Shinjuku as well. But mainly interested in whether Gingira has a walk-in shop. Thanks!
So 200 $ is cheap in Tokyo for FS? Any chances to find something cheaper outside Tokyo?If you're cheap, Tokyo probably isn't the place for you.
But if you'd RTFF you'd learn that Bunny Girls in Tokyo is 20,000 Yen for 70 minutes and GFE soapland in Kawasaki has a 20,000 Yen option too. Comes out to about $130 for FS.
Traveler X
11-27-24, 03:28
If you're cheap, Tokyo probably isn't the place for you.
But if you'd RTFF you'd learn that Bunny Girls in Tokyo is 20,000 Yen for 70 minutes and GFE soapland in Kawasaki has a 20,000 Yen option too. Comes out to about $130 for FS.Wonderful. And remember how cheap and fast trains are in major cities. It's easy to go from Tokyo to Kawasaki. If you've been sightseeing for hours, you need to rest your legs anyways. So sitting on a train looking out the window or on your phone isn't a waste but a necessary transition. Just looked it up, it is 20 minutes from Shibuya to Kawasaki at 240 yen. That's $1.57. I had to double check because I couldn't believe this other site that said $1-$2:
https://www.rome2rio.com/s/Shibuya/Kawasaki?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgJa6BhCOARIsAMiL7V-Xy_hjA9NmeuslxYA1T_IMHlMCh5AvEW5MmUxH9OxKWNnsYMw-xCYaAgQ-EALw_wcB
I love breakfast in Japan too. Fantastic breakfast for $3-$6. Would be $20 for that in the USA now, exact same order but lower quality food even. Things get much cheaper once you leave Tokyo. Once, I ate a bunch of sushi. It was $16. In the USA it would have been $60 and not as good. This was a particularly good value shop, certainly there are more expensive sushi places in Japan and they're not all as good as the $16 one. But, they're all better than 95% of USA sushi.
This goes to the point that when in Japan, choose their specialty. You can't get soapland this good elsewhere, there are imitations including in Thailand. Kgirls offer nuru in the US. At best it's half of it. When I go to Japan, I'm looking for Japan's specialties. I was once put in a room with three kidnapped schoolgirls all blindfolded with hands tied*. I could harass them for 5 minutes before picking one to play with upstairs. This all happened suddenly as the staff left me and closed the curtains for the darkened room. I was in shock. But this was my Japan adventure and I resolved to do things the Japanese way. I told one girl "I'll pick you anyways so let's go upstairs early" She told me "Dame, 5 minutes". Rules are rules in Japan.
*Not actual schoolgirls, just petite girls in uniform. I saw cartoon ads depicting the whole kidnap room, I thought it was just dramatized to show the theme but had no idea it was really going to happen. All girls 20 and over. Barely. They know how to pick them. This not actual school was the first girl to P2P me (sumatra), it took 20 years for a kgirl to outdo her (Kendal / Shelby). Shelby is in OC starting yesterday.
See this for a list of foreigner friendly shops, though a little Japanese will help a lot. Keeping in mind that 'foreigner only' delivery health is perhaps the most newbie friendly:
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/shop-list/
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1303/toranoana/ Famous shop for having JAV actresses, but you can't book the top tier girls until you are a good repeat customer.
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/colorful-yoshiwar/ Fashionable schoolgirls
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1311/puzzle/ Completely inexperienced girls
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/videogirl/ Filming okay, Chinese English and Korean okay
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1317/kiwami_g/ Instant blowjob "no wiping or washing" WTF
By the way, Japan gives no fucks about PC. It's just common sense that most guys want to play with the youngest possible legally aged women possible. They are upfront about it. That's why you see ridiculous "Teen to 20" banners imply 18-20 when we all know it's more like 20-35. Though at a few shops like Gingira it's legit 19-25. My favorite girl started that shop at 19. Once you step out of Japan please regain your Western common sense though.
Please don't be offended when I say I hate helping lazy people. I love helping others help themselves, so I only point the way. I've already done more than half the research, you have to do the rest.
PS there is one ad photo I decided not to include, I made a meme instead in its place.
JohnWick6969
11-27-24, 07:27
Long ago I've been offered FS for $70-$100 in Japan at a corg but the girls weren't to my liking. I believe the right word is ugly, but that's just my experience I visited 10 different corg shops and 9 sucked. So it's not just 'luck' in my opinion. What do I mean by 'just a FS' place? There also used to be glass houses in Yokohama like Amsterdam where you coould pick Chinese girls to bang for $70, I did that many times long ago. But it no longer exists. Girls give you 15 minutes so yes it's cheaper if you ONLY want to bang, but soapland is actually way better for 70 minutes of reverent worship. Plus the glass houses were demolished long ago. Today in the year 2024 what you should do is to pick soapland or delivery health, and it's going to be $200 or more. Each one has its advantage, my other posts compare them..Are BBBJ and BBFS the norm in soaplands?
Okay I'm a senior member and know enough to read the threads before asking questions. I admit Japan is a little more confusing then the rest of SE Asia Think I have basics.
Understand the soaplands. Also understand foreigner bias and sticking to foreigner friendly venues. Which really means for me some soaplands, some delivery, and street girls -- aka tachinbo.
Couple questions:
1. Are most hotels in Shinjuko near Kabuchicho girl friendly if register for two people? What hotels in this area are recommended? JP gave me his on recent trip (granbell) but its booked. Needs to be a decent nice hotel; not a love hotel shithole.
2. From looking at videos of tachinbo (I'm assuming they're in Kabuchicho in videos), some of these girls seem pretty hot. I can see myself partaking. My questions:
A. Many seem to have men standing nearby. Look like middlemen. Is that the norm for street hookers? Are these guys okay to deal with? I doubt I'd have a lot of tolerance dealing with them. What's procedure for negotiation?
Be. Is it like Brazil where you have to be very specific about services upfront, or Thailand where you just agree price, bring them to hotel and they're pretty much up for anything (maybe with a little more cash)?
3. Delivery Services. I'm still a little confused about "foreigner and English friendly". From reading forum I know TokyoHentai is a +. What others in Tokyo are recommended as far as ease making appt in english or on web, and foreigner friendly girls with decent selection?I know this post is a little old, but I'm responding as more of a PSA to people who want to pick up a tachinbo at Okubo Park.
If you want to pick up a tochinbo, I don't recommend going there to do it. Youtubers, journalists, activists and plain clothed police officers are out there regularly now due to it being a well known area. The videos and articles you've seen really put the spotlight there. Also, some of those girls are runaways and / or underage. If caught, your situation will be 100 x worse if it turns out she's underage whether you knew it or not. If she looks too young, ask for her ID. It's better to be safe than sorry. It's the difference between a slap on the wrist or going to jail and getting your passport blacklisted.
Syphilis and HepA are also big problems.
The guys who hang out with them are usually just friends and clients who have nothing better to do.
They want to know what you want to do before they come with you. It can be a little difficult if you don't know the lingo, but nothing google translate can't handle. As for hotels, it's honestly best to go to a nearby love hotel. On weekdays, you can book 1. 5 hrs for less than 5 k yen. Lapia is a good place. They also provide complimentary popcorn, soft drinks and 1 free cosplay rental if you're into that.
You'll notice that they're always on their phones. That's because they network with each other and they advertise on twitter. (Safest place to book a girl).
They also hangout near train stations and at random spots in Kabukicho. Don't mistake them for the older Chinese ladies who randomly walk up to you asking for a "massage".
You can book underground AV models on Twitter too. The "FC2-PPV" porn videos are basically guys who do that and record their encounters.
The experience can also be a hit or miss because some of them are all business with no emotion. You can get GFE, but you're not guaranteed it or they charge extra.
Honestly, the only benefit of picking up a tachinbo is if she's ok with it, for 30-50 k depending on the girl, they'll let you go all the way. BBFS CIP and everything. If that's not what you want to do, it's better to go with the agencies you see on other posts here.
TLDR.
Okubo park is starting to become risky due to mass reporting of the area and STDs. Watch out for underage runaways. Tachinbo are only worth it if you want (and they offer) BBFS CIP. Otherwise, go with an agency.
Traveler X
11-27-24, 17:03
I know this post is a little old, but I'm responding as more of a PSA to people who want to pick up a tachinbo at Okubo Park.
If you want to pick up a tochinbo, I don't recommend going there to do it. Youtubers, journalists, activists and plain clothed police officers are out there regularly now due to it being a well known area. The videos and articles you've seen really put the spotlight there. Also, some of those girls are runaways and / or underage. If caught, your situation will be 100 x worse if it turns out she's underage whether you knew it or not. If she looks too young, ask for her ID. It's better to be safe than sorry. It's the difference between a slap on the wrist or going to jail and getting your passport blacklisted.
Honestly, the only benefit of picking up a tachinbo is if she's ok with it, for 30-50 k depending on the girl, they'll let you go all the way. BBFS CIP and everything. If that's not what you want to do, it's better to go with the agencies you see on other posts here.
Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I don't endorse picking up streetwalkers or some other things. But if guys want info on how to do it, I give info to increase their success rate. I know some people who went to Okubo park and had success, they actually did it. Please don't take youtube and news articles as fully accurate, they are just click farms making a few obviously false claims mixed in with truth. Screencap of one example as proof.
I'm tired of calling them out but for example attached is a youtube screencap made of a video talking about homeless teenagers. Half the footage is of girls holding up signs for girl's bars. So some user asks about these girls holding up signs being prostitutes. Look, we have two eyes see for yourself. If you know 1st year Japanese you can just READ the sign saying 'girls bar'. Or, if you know even a litte English, look at the sign on the ground to the right also saying 'Bar'. This is the lazy crap youtubers put online. Don't believe them. And that is how most Westerners get their info on Japan. A universal principle is to rely on first hand knowledge.
I've passed by the runaway girls many times, they are in always a different section than Okubo park. People in Japan have a certain common sense, even runaways, they stick their own group. Anyone who confuses the two obviously has never seen this with their own two eyes. Furthermore, all the tachinbo's I've seen are obviously adults. A few are even foreigners, and those were the ones my friend were most happy with. BBFS and CIP doesn't have anything to do with Okubo park. I've probably seen the same article you're thinking of. It's written by someone who doesn't even have a penis. Here is my post 6 weeks ago commenting on a similar article:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2952234&viewfull=1#post2952234
Just to be crystal clear, the Okubo Park article was written by Karin Kaneko, a woman with no penis. She writes about a different topic every week, how much time do you think she spent banging women? Please realize this.
Your comment about FC2 is wrong but I understand why some people may think it. Original FC2 content is normally non-JAV stars. But FC2 is a marketplace not unlike Pornhub where anyone can upload stuff. If you see a censored video on FC2, it is just some random user pirating a JAV and selling it to anyone lazy or dumb. See it all the time. You or I could do it if we made an account and verified. I know a lot about FC2, you can find very detailed guides on them written by me.
To everyone, unfortunately we can't believe everything we read. There is a lot of clickbait content targeting the West. There are excellent and accurate resources online, I follow about 5 blogs by guys who live in Japan and monger all the time. And if I get my info on Japan from youtube, it's from Japanese people who do it every day. For those who missed it, this Youtube is a very good interview with a DH girl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68 Interview.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7003765&viewfull=1#post7003765 Youtube is a clickbait farm.
Are BBBJ and BBFS the norm in soaplands?
At soapland I always get bbbj but that's just my experience since it's quite sanitary. You would not expect it at a "3 in a row" blowjob bar by contrast. Bbfs is not the norm but people do get it. It is up to the girl. I know certain girls who will give it to regulars only, so it is not just a yes or no rule. It's called YMMV.
So to conclude, remember the Youtube attachment I've included below. Anyone who can read English or Japanese on a sign can see it's false. Here's the silliest thing. You or I can just walk up to these women with signs and talk to them. Imagine that, you instantly know more than anyone who writes these articles. I already did it 20 years ago, it was a girls bar. You can find a short summary below 'Fun in Tokyo Region' section:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666
Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I don't endorse picking up streetwalkers or some other things. But if guys want info on how to do it, I give info to increase their success rate. I know some people who went to Okubo park and had success, they actually did it. Please don't take youtube and news articles as fully accurate, they are just click farms making a few obviously false claims mixed in with truth. Screencap of one example as proof.
I'm tired of calling them out but for example attached is a youtube screencap made of a video talking about homeless teenagers. Half the footage is of girls holding up signs for girl's bars. So some user asks about these girls holding up signs being prostitutes. Look, we have two eyes see for yourself. If you know 1st year Japanese you can just READ the sign saying 'girls bar'. Or, if you know even a litte English, look at the sign on the ground to the right also saying 'Bar'. This is the lazy crap youtubers put online. Don't believe them. And that is how most Westerners get their info on Japan. A universal principle is to rely on first hand knowledge.
I've passed by the runaway girls many times, they are in always a different section than Okubo park. People in Japan have a certain common sense, even runaways, they stick their own group. Anyone who confuses the two obviously has never seen this with their own two eyes. Furthermore, all the tachinbo's I've seen are obviously adults. A few are even foreigners, and those were the ones my friend were most happy with. BBFS and CIP doesn't have anything to do with Okubo park. I've probably seen the same article you're thinking of. It's written by someone who doesn't even have a penis. Here is my post 6 weeks ago commenting on a similar article:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2952234&viewfull=1#post2952234
Just to be crystal clear, the Okubo Park article was written by Karin Kaneko, a woman with no penis. She writes about a different topic every week, how much time do you think she spent banging women? Please realize this.
Your comment about FC2 is wrong but I understand why some people may think it. Original FC2 content is normally non-JAV stars. But FC2 is a marketplace not unlike Pornhub where anyone can upload stuff. If you see a censored video on FC2, it is just some random user pirating a JAV and selling it to anyone lazy or dumb. See it all the time. You or I could do it if we made an account and verified. I know a lot about FC2, you can find very detailed guides on them written by me.
To everyone, unfortunately we can't believe everything we read. There is a lot of clickbait content targeting the West. There are excellent and accurate resources online, I follow about 5 blogs by guys who live in Japan and monger all the time. And if I get my info on Japan from youtube, it's from Japanese people who do it every day. For those who missed it, this Youtube is a very good interview with a DH girl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyn-qEYUn68 Interview.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7003765&viewfull=1#post7003765 Youtube is a clickbait farm.
At soapland I always get bbbj but that's just my experience since it's quite sanitary. You would not expect it at a "3 in a row" blowjob bar by contrast. Bbfs is not the norm but people do get it. It is up to the girl. I know certain girls who will give it to regulars only, so it is not just a yes or no rule. It's called YMMV.
So to conclude, remember the Youtube attachment I've included below. Anyone who can read English or Japanese on a sign can see it's false. Here's the silliest thing. You or I can just walk up to these women with signs and talk to them. Imagine that, you instantly know more than anyone who writes these articles. I already did it 20 years ago, it was a girls bar. You can find a short summary below 'Fun in Tokyo Region' section:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&viewfull=1#post2946666I should have been more thorough. I typed that up last night. I'm sorry.
The point I was trying to make was that Okubo Park is so well known, it's to the point where people who don't like what happens there are becoming more active. I'm just warning people to be careful.
Everyone already knows the girls holding the sign at Toyoko are just advertising their themed bars.
What I mean by media coverage are people who both like and don't like what happens there, both locally and internationally, whether its sensational or not. If you watch the news, NHK talks about crime in the area, some of which involves tochinbo pretty often. Yahoo news, gendai media etc. Also covers it.
Just a few months ago, "influencers" gathered together and formed a group called "The Street Guardians of Salvation".
They expose people who partake in the activity by going covert and conducting sting operations. They also randomly walk around holding a sign that says prostitution is bad. At Junshiurita on twitter is one of them.
Also on YouTube, there's people like "Tokyo Night Walk" who's a guy who livestreams himself walking the area and sometimes harasses the girls and there's "Yukinyan" who is someone that makes fun videos about life in the area.
Yukinyan used to interview girls and guys, but after losing her old youtube channel, she just makes shorts now. Those interviews got way too real for youtube.
I remember one did involve an underage girl who was making 100 k yen a day, but didn't get into detail about how she earned it other than dating ojisans.
People who don't browse the Japanese side of social media don't know about stuff like that.
Not all tochinbo are runaway toyoko girls, but some are. That's how they can afford living the lifestyle they live. (Jirai fashion, host / men's concept clubs etc.).
Tochinbo are more willing to do BBFS cip vs agencies because BBFS cip is illegal. The agencies abide by the law. They are legitimate, tax paying businesses. Tochinbo aren't. That's why I said if you're looking to do that, you'll find more luck with them. I didn't mean to link that with Okubo Park.
I thought FC2 was just amateur content in general? Does underground AV count as amateur? Maybe I'm wrong. I'll read your post about it.
Some of what I said was speaking from experience as well because I live in Japan and some of the people I meet regularly are in the area.
Traveler X
11-28-24, 06:57
Everyone already knows the girls holding the sign at Toyoko are just advertising their themed bars.
What I mean by media coverage are people who both like and don't like what happens there, both locally and internationally, whether its sensational or not. If you watch the news, NHK talks about crime in the area, some of which involves tochinbo pretty often. Yahoo news, gendai media etc. Also covers it.
Tochinbo are more willing to do BBFS cip vs agencies because BBFS cip is illegal. The agencies abide by the law. They are legitimate, tax paying businesses. Tochinbo aren't. That's why I said if you're looking to do that, you'll find more luck with them. I didn't mean to link that with Okubo Park.
I thought FC2 was just amateur content in general? Does underground AV count as amateur? Maybe I'm wrong. I'll read your post about it.Yes, these are excellent points. I understood them from your previous post and agree. I just want to give a different perspective on some things.
Yo're right there is special coverage of Okubo Park. Note that enforcement in Japan is extremely lax compared to other countries. A lot is focused on trumpeting in the news what little they do. I don't mean to downplay your points. In any case, Japanese law itself does not punish Johns with adult prostitutes.
Well, my previous post linked to examples of a user and a youtuber that couldn't tell the difference between a no touch bar girl and a prostitute. I think regular Westerners don't either, they're new to Japan. There are a lot of foreigners and tourists reading ISG just getting started. They're the vast majority of people and we hope to help them. Hope that makes sense.
Soapland, delivery health, and Tobita exist because of legal fiction. What goes on inside is completely illegal, that's why staff strictly warn delivery health customers that there is no sex (wink), same as a strip club. City of Industry strip clubs are a non-stop fuck fest, but the club manager can say "I told them not to do that!" And he's right - if he catches a girl being obvious in the open she's fired. With soapland in particular, the law has no mechanism to investigate them. Technically, at soapland women assist men in washing their bodies. Sometimes, I even need my body washed by two women. Japan is full of this - gambling is illegal, pachinco is gambling, yet pachinco is everywhere:
Gambling is also illegal in Japan. But there are 7000+ pachinko parlors in Japan in plain sight. I went in and won $200 with beginners luck. To sum it up it's gambling. The pachinko parlor cannot give you any money. Yet somehow I turned those balls I won into real money at some back alley shop next door that had "nothing to do" with the pachinko parler. This random shop by coincidence was desperately trying to buy credits that pachinko balls will buy. Gee. Not gambling right. This system is 100% effective at stopping law enforcement in Japan by the way, because nobody cares about pachinko.
Excerpted from: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2933358&highlight=pachinko#post2933358
In Jdrama have you sometimes seen the trope where the villain taunts the policeman saying "Where's your warrant?" even though he is 100% obviously guilty? In Japan, this is taken very seriously. There is no such thing as arrest for probable cause like in the US. Suspicion is not enough. For that reason, the moment a door closes and it's just a man and a woman, Japanese police cannot record, investigate, or detain anyone without a warrant. In the same way, the shop staff doesn't are as long as they don't hear or see anything. Who knows what goes on in that room between the two of you! That's Japan.
Since you are interested in the FC2 guides, I'll link the best ones.
FC2 guides. How to research, get, or stream them:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37207-Jgirl-Appreciation-Filming-Porn-and-Guides&p=7096622&viewfull=1#post7096622
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37207-Jgirl-Appreciation-Filming-Porn-and-Guides&p=7095387&viewfull=1#post7095387
JAV guides. If a jgirl is working at a shop, how to research her JAV and see them:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37207-Jgirl-Appreciation-Filming-Porn-and-Guides&p=7108468&viewfull=1#post7108468
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7110754&viewfull=1#post7110754
PS. Remember that JAV is censored and legal in Japan. Whereas amateur porn including FC2 is illegal in Japan, since it's uncensored most of the time. But it's fine, FC2 is "not a Japanese website"! Yes it's full of Japanese women. And it's customers are almost all Japanese. You see what I'm saying now, right? This is exactly the same thing as Pachinco and Soapland, a loophole for something that is 100% illegal. Uncensored porn, gambling*, and paying for FS is 100% illegal in Japan.
*In 2029, you will finally be able to legally gamble at one Casino in Osaka.
Examples of FC2 attached. Uncensored Japanese porn is illegal in Japan, Korea, China, despite it also being extremely popular in these very countries! Who can blame them for wanting. When monkies were shown photos of the rears of female monkies, they spent hours staring at it. When indigenous people and North Koreans were given access to porn, they spent hours watching it. It is universal. So enjoy these samples of Japanese women having sex happily as you watch them. If you like, you may download their video.
BlackEngine44
11-28-24, 12:16
Excited to report from Tokyo.
I've always wanted to try j ladies but with the language barrier, dating is nigh impossible. Furthermore, good looking 20's girls? Very unlikely. But with the services available, dreams do come true.
I chose to try delivery health vs soaplands as the price difference is too stark to ignore. Also soapland requires you to go to a far off area (yoshiwara). The nearby soaplands in kabuchiko seem like "budget" soaplands, without the pretty women. And if you aren't getting a pretty Japanese gal then why bother paying premium in the first place? Average looking Asian gals are readily available in the dating scene around Asia.
I tried 2 services (but I prefer not to name them for obvious reasons) - one was a famous foreigner oriented DH in kabuchiko and another was a lesser known, locals-marketed DH service.
The first one was easy to find. I tried that one just to understand the whole concept. I did walk in and they showed the menu of girls. I asked which one was pretty and petite and the staff recommended a choice for me. Paid about 30 k yen, can't remember the exact amount. I waited in the waiting area and noticed foreigners of all types also waiting. An older Asian man, a fat middle eastern looking man, a handsome young white guy, etc.
When the girl showed up, she brought me to a nearby love hotel. She was a little older (maybe 30?) and much thicker than I wanted but would fall under normal body type instead of slim. Her English is good and one thing I noticed with this foreigner focused place is a lot of their girls are not pure Japanese. They seem to be other type of Asians or mixed girl masquerading as Japanese. I suppose these are the type of girls they look for who can speak English and are willing to cater to foreigners. They are also older at around 30+.
I think younger less experienced and pure Japanese girls are unlikely to want to try foreigners as it can be a mixed bag for them vs the usual Japanese clientele wherein they know what to expect.
In the room, the girl told me the rules about DH but offered FS if I wanted it with the caveat that "no one should know". I declined as she wasn't really my exact type so I wasn't interested in paying more. She was very professional and prefer that she leads her "service". I let her bathe me and do her service. I noticed she has amazing porcelain white skin and is skilled enough to keep me hard even if I thought I wouldn't be super into it. Did a lot of FK too and kissed her skin all over.
She was also a top rated talent in her agency but started falling in the rankings due to lack of repeat visitors (I suppose this is a difficult metric to get good scores in if your clientele are visiting foreigners) so she started doing JAV work so she can be promoted to p-star status and charge more. She showed off her JAV vid and I was able to search for it later on so I do know it exists.
Overall a decent experience, FK, DATY, HJ, BBBJ all included. FS was offered but I declined.
WIR: why.
Second DH I tried was a better experience. I picked their top talent and she was very beautiful in photos, in her 20's. Reviews also noted as much so I went ahead with it. When I saw her in person I was floored. She really is a beauty and is also thin / slim like I wanted. She had an aura of elegance about her that would make you think she is a classy lady to take out on a date and ignore all her previous s-work LOL.
Her skin is milky white and beautiful, amazing spinner body over all but flat on the chest side (which I don't mind as I like the fashion model types). Unfortunately I spoke no Japanese and she spoke no English so we had to communicate via google translate which burned a lot of precious minutes. She explained the rules of DH but also offered FS. She did mention it has to be a secret. I took it since I fancied her. She was passive and let me lead the session.
FK, DATY, BBBJ, HJ, FS all available. Even some cuddling afterwards. Stellar experience and damage was 27 k yen plus 10 k tip for the FS. She also kept asking for my itinerary and kept on begging me to do a repeat visit, which I found interesting since she is the top star and has a full schedule otherwise. I took that as a compliment but its probably just some tactics on her end. Couldn't repeat anymore as I wanted to do other touristy stuff on the remaining days.
WIR: why.
If you have the time and effort, do dig deep into the wide world of DH for local Japanese. They get much much better quality of girls IMO and more "girl next door" than "professional".
I chose to try delivery health vs soaplands as the price difference is too stark to ignore. Sorry, but this makes no sense. There are 20,000 Yen soaplands and 200,000 Yen delivery health.
It all depends on the place, not the type of place.
Also soapland requires you to go to a far off area (yoshiwara).Far off? Minowa Station is 10 minutes from Akihabara Station on the Hibiya Line.
I tried 2 services (but I prefer not to name them for obvious reasons)They're no obvious to me. Could you spell them out?
If you have the time and effort, do dig deep into the wide world of DH for local Japanese. They get much much better quality of girls IMO and more "girl next door" than "professional".It's generally true throughout Asia that tourists get the less desirable girls. But it doesn't have to be that way if people do a few minutes of research.
For example the women at Tokyo Amateur Escort are the literal same ones that Japanese guys from the same place.
I tried THC Shinjuku yesterday with silver class Kazuha and what a disaster. She showed up 30 minutes late and no apologies or anything. She looked like late 20's or early 30's, definitely not the listed 20 year old. I knew immediately this was going to be bad. She seems like she had no life in her. Just a dead soul. When we walked to the love hotel, she did speak English well enough to ask questions like do you like anime, how long will you be here. We barely showered and she then quoted me 35000 yen for the standard secret menu option, which I said no. She said everyone pays me that. LOL riiiiight. I must note I didn't pick any THC add-ONS, based on my research, the girls don't really remember and it's better to negotiate directly with the girl. I was planning on movie recording option, but seeing how she looked old and tired, I lost interest. She really didn't want to touch me. I ended up with the world's worst HJ and felt really shitty all day. You feel terrible when you feel undesired and you spent a bit of money for it.
Today I went to Luxe oppai pub and what an incredible time!! All the staff spoke great English. I told them the website says 7,000 yen for first timers and they immediately Ok'ed it. The first girl who sat down was very cute and we hit it off immediately. She said she is 27, but she looked like 21.
I initially wanted to rotate all 3 girls, but I was having so much fun with her, I kept her instead of rotating. Then eventually 40 minutes was up, which honestly seemed way too quick. I should have kept time to make sure, oh well. (I read a Google review that he felt the time was running fast). Anyway, I did a 20 min extension. They charged me 15,000 yen on top of the initial 7,000 yen. It seems a bit high, but what the hell. It's rare to meet someone who click with so well. They did give me a coupon for another 7,000 yen entrance fee, and also the girl gave me her card which skips the nomination fee.
I know Traveler X you said to buy a girl a drink to keep them happy, but she never once asked me and the waiters never asked me either. She was super happy when I kept her instead of rotating and also when I extended with her, she was thrilled. She did drink my beer though LOL.
I kind of feel bad for not getting her a drink, but I will next time.
I'm a total believer in oppai pubs over DH, just wish I could keep it going for hours LOL.
Repeated with this place again. Got lucky with Emily who was suggested by the tout. They sent her to my hotel in Ueno.
Showed up on time, spoke great English (wasn't expecting that), and had a good understanding of the language from living overseas. A very fun girl who wanted to try on some of the dirty jokes she learned in California. It was a great surprise and she genuinely got some laughs out of me.
During the massage she was quiet and erotic. Nice hot oil rub down covering everything except my butt hole. More relaxing and sexy than anything that would relieve a muscle ache. But she did do wonders on my feet.
Wasn't sure if it would result in HJ, but she did end up giving me a great slow hand job under the sheet and edging me right to the bell rang. So she's a real pro. She really seems to like getting guys off too. She had that naughty look in her eye.
Mid twenties, very pretty face, very fun and looks great in the tight dress they wear. Nice choice for easy in room relief.
Here's another good find in Tokyo:
Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/system.
In room massage, and they are pretty quick and hassle free about setting it up. No need to show ID, have a Japanese phone number, or any of that annoying stuff that so many places require. Also foreign friendly and English speaking.
I was able to get a nice Japanese women in her 20's sent to my hotel in about 2 hours. She was English speaking. Tight clothes. Lots of flirting and joking around. She never got naked. Not that kind of place. But after a really good massage she flipped me over and worked a nice load out of me.
60 minutes was 20000 Yen, no delivery fee or tipping.
The website says "no sexual services" but I ended up getting a world class hand job with nuru lotion on my first try. Is this the norm? YMMV.
Traveler X
11-28-24, 17:54
Excited to report from Tokyo.
I've always wanted to try j ladies but with the language barrier, dating is nigh impossible. Furthermore, good looking 20's girls? Very unlikely. But with the services available, dreams do come true.
I tried 2 services (but I prefer not to name them for obvious reasons) - one was a famous foreigner oriented DH in kabuchiko and another was a lesser known, locals-marketed DH service.
When the girl showed up, she brought me to a nearby love hotel. She was a little older (maybe 30?) and much thicker than I wanted but would fall under normal body type instead of slim. Her English is good and one thing I noticed with this foreigner focused place is a lot of their girls are not pure Japanese. They seem to be other type of Asians or mixed girl masquerading as Japanese. I suppose these are the type of girls they look for who can speak English and are willing to cater to foreigners. They are also older at around 30+.
I think younger less experienced and pure Japanese girls are unlikely to want to try foreigners as it can be a mixed bag for them vs the usual Japanese clientele wherein they know what to expect.
Overall a decent experience, FK, DATY, HJ, BBBJ all included. FS was offered but I declined.
WIR: why.
Second DH I tried was a better experience. I picked their top talent and she was very beautiful in photos, in her 20's. Reviews also noted as much so I went ahead with it. When I saw her in person I was floored. She really is a beauty and is also thin / slim like I wanted. She had an aura of elegance about her that would make you think she is a classy lady to take out on a date and ignore all her previous s-work LOL.
Her skin is milky white and beautiful, amazing spinner body over all but flat on the chest side (which I don't mind as I like the fashion model types). Unfortunately I spoke no Japanese and she spoke no English so we had to communicate via google translate which burned a lot of precious minutes. She explained the rules of DH but also offered FS. She did mention it has to be a secret. I took it since I fancied her. She was passive and let me lead the session.
WIR: why.Thanks for your contribution, wonderful to hear you found a girl that amazed you. No matter the agency, it can take more than one try to find a superior girl. Research goes a long way, as well as a shop with at least accurate photos. The language barrier can happen and cause some delay, but as you noted your favorite girl spoke no English while the average girl could speak English. So I'll repeat your quote to emphasize.
I've always wanted to try j ladies but with the language barrier, dating is nigh impossible. Furthermore, good looking 20's girls? Very unlikely. But with the services available, dreams do come true.
Isn't that wonderful? You can think of it as a big positive instead. That you found in your words a beautiful young woman. You enjoyed her completely even with the language barrier, and dating her would be impossible. In her 20's as you hoped, which we all know doesn't always happen. So take the win, to make your dream come true a few minutes delay for translation is reasonable. This is why some shops ask foreigners to book a minimum time like 70 minutes instead of a lower time. Just an idea.
I also appreciate that you would not repeat girls, no matter how good. A lot of guys are like this and it's normal, most guys want new girls. But sometimes, you make a special connection with a girl and it sure is nice to know you already like a girl before she shows up. Only do this if you feel comfortable with a girl and have 'more to explore' with her. Certainly the disadvantage is it might be mostly the same, but that really depends on you as much as her. For example sometimes a particular girl is really into something like DATY, and I only did a little but noticed it. I take my 2nd visit and really focus on that. A recent girl liked it, so I tried it many positions with her. Treat a girl respectfully and you can go far, a good share of girls enjoy things when you put in some effort to please them too.
Everyone should post what they're comfortable with. I think it should be okay to name agencies if not girls in general, but that is up to you no one can require you to say it. Good to know you did your research and had success, it is a good reminder for others that first-timers can do well.
Everyone knows fs (full sex) is available at DH. Girls just have to say "don't tell" since the shop can then say "I told them not to do fs". But actually, they WANT people to know fs is available at DH. It may seem ridiculous but that's exactly how a fs US strip club works. Everyone knows any strip club in City of Industry has fs available (about 80% of girls do it), but if you ask the male staff at any club there they'd look at you like you're an idiot or a cop. The manager might angrily warn you and toss you if you say it again. You don't talk about fs until you're alone with a girl. And we post intel on which girl does fs and how much all the time for years and decades, no problem. But remember discretion and respect, we don't tell girls we heard they do things online. Just use common sense and ask normally "Can we.." Treat the girls well and you may go far.
Sorry, but this makes no sense. There are 20,000 Yen soaplands and 200,000 Yen delivery health.
It's generally true throughout Asia that tourists get the less desirable girls. But it doesn't have to be that way if people do a few minutes of research.
For example the women at Tokyo Amateur Escort are the literal same ones that Japanese guys from the same place.Yes, and I find that the cost of a shop depends on the area and of course what the shop offers. Only certain locations have soaplands due to licensing, Tokyo will not license new ones and that's really why Delivery Health exist (they arose in response to demand and lack of new licenses). While it's true you get what you pay for, past a certain point at the high end you are getting things like a more luxurious room or a popular JAV star. Things that might not matter to other guys. It certainly doesn't matter to me. I totally understand a luxurious room can be fun and it is interesting to bang a JAV star. But I'd rather bang 2 or 3 girls instead. Especially if one of them is better looking than the JAV star.
There certainly are some difference in girls that service foreigners, but it's not a lot. Some examples: 1) Some jgirls don't service foreigners, so we don't see them. 2) There is some "can speak English" bias to girls that do, but it's not a lot 3) If a shop you pick is "foreigner only" rather than "foreigner okay", that might further skew the girls.
However, in many cases jgirls service both foreigners and locals. We are getting those same girls, and there's a lot of them. One friend used the word "unlimited choices" and he's a foreigner of course. He's going to keep going often, he's in love. The reality is the effect of 1) is not that big, some of the absolutely best young girls do both foreigner and local. And there is a universal truth that even if a girl is young and beautiful, the nature of the work is that after working enough weeks they will not be fully booked if they work regularly. Because guys like BlackEngine are normal, they want a new girl by default. So there is no surprise when a girl you think is amazing is not fully booked. Everyone has different taste too, of course. Note that many girls that are truly popular, still don't work a full schedule. Since they can't stay fully booked if they did, and a perk of the work is lots of money but lots of days off. Just how it is.
It's just my opinion, but you can share names of shops and girls normally. Maybe if you had a serious complaint I can understand wanting to only leave some details so it isn't linked to you. Everyone should do what they think is right and feel comfortable posting. My preference is to highlight girls and shops I think are good, rather than listing ones I think aren't. Thank you!
Today I went to Luxe oppai pub and what an incredible time!! All the staff spoke great English. I told them the website says 7,000 yen for first timers and they immediately Ok'ed it. The first girl who sat down was very cute and we hit it off immediately. She said she is 27, but she looked like 21.
I initially wanted to rotate all 3 girls, but I was having so much fun with her, I kept her instead of rotating. Then eventually 40 minutes was up, which honestly seemed way too quick. I should have kept time to make sure, oh well. (I read a Google review that he felt the time was running fast). Anyway, I did a 20 min extension. They charged me 15,000 yen on top of the initial 7,000 yen. It seems a bit high, but what the hell. It's rare to meet someone who click with so well. They did give me a coupon for another 7,000 yen entrance fee, and also the girl gave me her card which skips the nomination fee.
I know Traveler X you said to buy a girl a drink to keep them happy, but she never once asked me and the waiters never asked me either. She was super happy when I kept her instead of rotating and also when I extended with her, she was thrilled. She did drink my beer though LOL.
I kind of feel bad for not getting her a drink, but I will next time.
I'm a total believer in oppai pubs over DH, just wish I could keep it going for hours LOL.Sounds like you had fun. I remember my first oppai pub, many years ago. Totally new and exciting.
The problems with oppai pubs are:
1. 99% don't let you in unless you're Japanese and / or speak Japanese.
2. You don't actually receive anything. Your cock is not touched.
There are probably 999 deli healths in Tokyo alone. Each one has 5-50 girls. So you're talking about thousands of women. I wouldn't condemn an entire industry off one bad experience. If you have one bad burger, are you going to write off all hamburger restaurants?
Plus at DH you get to cum.
Traveler X
11-29-24, 22:58
Sounds like you had fun. I remember my first oppai pub, many years ago. Totally new and exciting.
The problems with oppai pubs are:
1. 99% don't let you in unless you're Japanese and / or speak Japanese.
2. You don't actually receive anything. Your cock is not touched.You are absolutely right that one bad experience isn't representative. I think he gets that, but most people have a money or time budget so they get one or two shots at it. Just how it goes.
I think your preference for DH is common, and goes to show we all want something different. When I order girls for FS, sometimes what I enjoyed the most was kissing them in bed. Some girls are special, and the sex that follows is part of the whole package. If oppai pubs doubled in price and soapland and DH dropped by half, I'd still go to oppai pubs mainly! I don't expect anyone else to agree or understand. I can just use any FS girl later in the week to 'clean up'. If I've been playing with stunningly beautiful girls for days I'm not bothered about banging it out with a decent looking girl who worships me for an hour. Or rather, I don't fuss about which girl I see, I'll go in random and come out happy.
I don't get blueballed like other guys when going oppai pubs. I do weird stuff like. Talk? Sometimes stroking their body, leg, spontaneous things then kissing. Lots of fun chat and tease, then more play. It's a dream come true. When you have a 9 or a 10 girl on your lap, it beats sex with a 7 or 8 in my opinion. But I do understand I'm in the minority here. Everyone wants something different, some people even prefer maid cafes and hostess clubs.
So I get it's nothing to you, but it's almost everything to me? I will say oppai pubs were the only place I was allowed in when I first went to Japan. Literally. I posted in detail about my experience in March 2004. In Tokyo I'd say 80% of them won't let you in without a few years of Japanese, but that's a lot left including Luxe where you can speak zero Japanese. In Nagoya, 100% of them let me in. Things were slow there, that's probably why.
Traveler X
11-29-24, 23:07
Today I went to Luxe oppai pub and what an incredible time!! All the staff spoke great English. I told them the website says 7,000 yen for first timers and they immediately Ok'ed it. The first girl who sat down was very cute and we hit it off immediately. She said she is 27, but she looked like 21.
I initially wanted to rotate all 3 girls, but I was having so much fun with her, I kept her instead of rotating. Then eventually 40 minutes was up, which honestly seemed way too quick. I should have kept time to make sure, oh well. (I read a Google review that he felt the time was running fast). Anyway, I did a 20 min extension. They charged me 15,000 yen on top of the initial 7,000 yen. It seems a bit high, but what the hell. It's rare to meet someone who click with so well. They did give me a coupon for another 7,000 yen entrance fee, and also the girl gave me her card which skips the nomination fee.
I know Traveler X you said to buy a girl a drink to keep them happy, but she never once asked me and the waiters never asked me either. She was super happy when I kept her instead of rotating and also when I extended with her, she was thrilled. She did drink my beer though LOL.
You've done what few tourists have experienced. You are part of the 1%. Making out with cute young jgirls is just our thing.
Some of the girls are really cool. That's why they send you 3. If you like one, just keep her. Don't even wonder if the next girl is better, she might be better she might be worse. But you like the girl you have a lot, so keep her. Best feeling ever for me. Many girls did not ask me to buy them drinks. In a way, those are the girls I like to buy drinks for the most. That's probably why I'm buying all the girls a drink, but you don't have to. Certainly, she will be happy if you just keep and extend her. She makes good money that way and if you two are getting along anyways, it's a pleasure for her too.
Also note the much higher rate for going past 40 minutes, that's common. I don't mind paying the premium if the girl is wonderful, just want everyone to know their options. It's still way cheaper than FS. Picking or extending the girl gives her a bigger cut, so you don't need to buy her a drink if nobody asks. Not everyone wants one. Glad she drank yours! A few girls are very special.
If she gave you her card, use that card for the discount. Or, go to Manzoku before 9 pm and ask if you can still get the first timer discount. They would always rather have your business unless they are full.
Your post a few weeks ago said you were maybe intimidated by the Luxe website making it look high end. Now you can see it is just a classy business about entertaining us. Customer service is very good in Japan, that 'high end' club exists to make us happy. I always go alone, don't worry about it. Sorry to hear your THC experience, every girl is different. Some of the girls must have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) asking 35K and this is one advantage of "foreigner friendly" DH over "foreigner only". Plenty of better girls take 10k or 20k. I think any DH that serves Japanese customers is not going to have the girls ask GPS prices. Because at that point, why not just bang jgirls in the US. Most in the US are 20s, and they let you film.
GPS = "I think I can charge twice as much, when there are girls younger and hotter than me charging less" Jgirls in the US are 320-350 an hour, most are under 25.
I'm a total believer in oppai pubs over DH, just wish I could keep it going for hours LOL.Same. And sometimes, I do.
Everyone wants something different, let's keep an open mind and help each other. Girls can be hit and miss as we all know, another reviewer said his first girl was okay but the second girl was great. Just how it is. One reason I recommended Kira Kira soapland is the service is consistently good even though you don't expect a young cute girl. It's possible but I just don't expect it. For people who have never tried FS in Japan, it's a way to test it out on a budget. Try out an oppai pub too. Don't follow what we're doing, you do what you like.
To celebrate your happy experience, attached are oppai club girls. I've played with them myself and they are photo accurate. I've seen about 50. P4P (Pay for play) is awesome. Meme attached for what 99% of people have to deal with.
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MassageLover81
11-30-24, 06:47
You've done what few tourists have experienced. You are part of the 1%. Making out with cute young jgirls is just our thing.
.I plan to to to Lux tomorrow. Do you just ask them to sit on your lap? Do they straddle you face to face like a lap dance? Or are their backs are towards you?
Do you just ask them if you can feel and suck on their breasts?
Sorry I'm thinking from a strip club perspective.
Thanks!
Traveler X
11-30-24, 09:58
I plan to to to Lux tomorrow. Do you just ask them to sit on your lap? Do they straddle you face to face like a lap dance? Or are their backs are towards you?
Do you just ask them if you can feel and suck on their breasts?
Sorry I'm thinking from a strip club perspective.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 My oppai pub guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666 My everything Japan guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2955623&viewfull=1#post2955623 ATexGuy's visit
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461&viewfull=1#post2963461 Manzoku shop for everything besides Luxe
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2947048&viewfull=1#post2947048 Tachinbo
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832 I was stuck with 3 kidnapped schoolgirls
Oppai pub summary
I know it's a lot of posts but if you want details read all the links above. Or you can just go and figure it out, you don't need me. Luxe staff speak perfect English. Every girl can be different, some just because they're new. You get maybe 10 minutes each girl. I usually start with chat, flirtation, light touching, then have them hop on at 5 minutes. Just ask if they don't do it automatically. Be kind, they're women and best to warm them up first. Use your calm charm, make them feel safe first and introduce yourself. They straddle facing you because every girl has breasts in front I hope. You can have them face away but they must put back their tops. Don't touch their privates.
You get 40 minutes and 3 girls, if there's a delay it doesn't count. It might be girl for 10 minutes then 5 minute break, so 10+5+10+5+10=40. You get 3 girls so let's say on average you don't like 1. Just let it go. Don't go if you don't like Japanese girls.
How it all started
No one ever told me a single thing about these places. My first post about it is 20+ years old. I was in the Nagoya RLD and the staff standing outside said they'd take me even though I spoke 3 months worth of Japanese. I just wanted to see any Japanese shop so I asked what kind. He said you get all you can drink beer! Oh, and there's also a girl and you can suck on her tits. The beer is as much as you can drink so it's a great value. Hold up I said what was that other part? I'm not joking, he actually emphasized the beer more than the girls. So he said yes sir you get 3 girls for 60 minutes and it's 4000 yen ($26). WTF? WTF Japan. I played it cool and said "Yeah sure let me try it".
I was seated and reverently given beer, it's draft so pretty good. I don't drink BTW. Next, they brought me my first girl, presented less reverently than the beer. I couldn't believe how cute and young she was. They pranked me the best way possible by talking about the beer. We chatted, complimented each other, then I mentioned I heard you can get on me and more. She said sure thing with a smile. Only rule is I can't touch her privates, which to me is just saying I can touch 95% of her body. But I played it cautious, the girl should feel safe and comfortable. Keep in mind 10 minutes ago I was walking down the street thinking I couldn't touch anything. Not even an old woman.
We went at it different ways, then I switched girls like the Sultan. Every girl was special in a different way, including besides her breasts. They were all nice to me and even curious, I was the first foreigner for all of them. Instead of replying I said hold on I got to get another kiss and suck on your tits one more time. At the end of my hour, I stumbled outside bewildered at what I had just done. I did it five more times that trip.
Every oppai pub in Nagoya let me in. Not so in Tokyo BTW. It helped that it was weekday still 8 pm, slow. 10pm and it's full, nobody could enter. Also, every other type of club refused me, except oppai pubs. Every hostess club and soapland said no at 3 months of Japanese. But in later trips I found the exceptions, using Manzoku.
As I said, I was the first foreigner for the 15 girls I saw my first trip, but that was Nagoya and 20 years ago. I spread the word. Luxe is foreigner friendly and in Tokyo so probably the opposite case. In the photos, one girl enjoyed our time so much she wrote me out a message on a card I gave her. I also attached a random photo of one of 100 weird things I saw in Japan. You get used to it.
Retelling
I had told this story before, as a poem:
I was walking downtown Sakae in Nagoya when a Japanese tout beckoned me in. It was weekday dinner time so things were dead slow. Even with limited Japanese, as a presentable gentleman I could enter an oppai pub. I actually entered three. The pamphlet attached shows the system, there is no mistake what goes on. I did exactly those things with exactly those girls. Nagoya is so cheap compared to Tokyo, it was 4000 yen ($27) to make out with 3 women for an hour. They were quite cute. Yes, you heard me right, $27. People drop $1 K on strippers in NYC and don't even get lfk.
After making out with the third girl and giving her tits one final goodbye kiss, I was a transformed man. I became Traveler X.
Please keep a good thing going by being respectful with girls and following the rules. Most girls know what they're doing and will take care of you, forgive the new girls they're just learning. Luxe will explain everything in clear English. Have fun.
My first visit to Japan. Had an afternoon to kill so hopped the train to Yokohama and Kira Kira. I speak almost no Japanese. Messaged ahead of time on Line for an 11 am visit. Early in the day so they're probably not busy and perhaps not the best girls are working. Its fine. Drew Remonn. Pretty girl, milfy but not old (24, in reality). See cups with the very large nipples I like. Evidence of a pregnancy. Probably would not repeat with her but I had a great, easy time. 70 minutes. Thanks Traveller X for the rec.
Traveler X
12-01-24, 09:13
My first visit to Japan. Had an afternoon to kill so hopped the train to Yokohama and Kira Kira. I speak almost no Japanese. Messaged ahead of time on Line for an 11 am visit. Early in the day so they're probably not busy and perhaps not the best girls are working. Its fine. Drew Remonn. Pretty girl, milfy but not old (24, in reality). See cups with the very large nipples I like. Evidence of a pregnancy. Probably would not repeat with her but I had a great, easy time. 70 minutes. Thanks Traveller X for the rec.Thank you for reporting what you got. Others will follow our clues and go even further. Kira Kira is really convenient and always foreigner friendly. Yokohama is an easy 'half day' trip with cheap and easy access by train. Definitely going at a slow time is better.
Kira Kira is perfect for first timers. The girls tend to be decent looking, not stunners but in my experience each girl had something nice. It's soapland, the average service is great and you can expect the girls to obey you completely with their bodies. Treat them respectfully and have fun. For those curious about Kira Kira, read about my first visit there on the Yokohama thread. Yokohama is maybe a 40 minute train ride from Shibuya, less than $2.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631
At 11am you should be in and out and ready to grab lunch around 12:20 nearby. If you don't mind a healthy walk, I suggest Ichiran Ramen at Sakuragicho - it's special. Sakuragicho is food heaven. For over the top decadence, go to New Otani Inn and next to it is a small Mizunobu Fruit Parlor (11am-9pm). Fucking ridiculous fruit desserts with top shelf fruit, only in Japan. Or Harbs cake, even more ridiculously luxurious. A good alibi* too!
* Traveler X is not responsible for what you tell your friends
https://www.mizunobubrooks.com/fruit-parlor/menu/ Mizunobu fruit parlor - next level
https://www.harbs.co.jp/en/menu_cake_flag/ Harbs Cake - next next level
https://ichiran.com/shop/kanto/sakuragicho/ Ichiran Ramen - worth repeating
So your girl had great nipples, pretty, at least young. Mine was similar, a bit thick but she had tits with a cute face and obeyed and worshipped me for an hour like a god. Washing me close with her body parts soaped up, sucking me 4 times all around the room in different scenarios and positions, banging with me casually to my satisfaction, nice feedback sounds from her they seemed real, then she randomly had me eat her pussy before we just chatted about random stuff. That describes my first visit. I skipped off to lunch thereafter. There is something deeply satisfying about that the first few times you get it. After a few times of that, maybe you up your game and try a higher end shop. Or something totally different like an oppai pub or fetish club. Only you know what you want.
It's my pleasure to help. Long ago people helped me, and I could not repay what they did for me. I hope you have many long years of fun adventures like this and share intel for others to follow. There are many other shops we haven't mapped out but are also foreigner friendly. This will give people choice, and choice is how we avoid GPS pricing that sometimes happens with DH aimed at tourists. Nothing against DH, just saying good intel will increase our success rates. We vote with our wallets.
Attached are some fantastic alibis.
Hey guys,
I'll travel to Japan in April for almost a month.
During this period I would like to try out whatever to country has to offer.
Please, keep in mind that I'm Italian, I don't speak Japanese and I'm in my 30's (athletic, tattooed).
I'll visit Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka.
Soaplands.
I'm researching a lot about Soaplands thanks to all your reviews and comments but I'm kind of overwhelmed if I have to be honest.
So I'd like to ask your advice about which shops I should ltake into consideration (for the providers, of course I'll search myself).
As the prices are quite high compared to other countries I've been to (Thailand for example) I don't want to waste my money with a bad choice.
Pink salons.
I've been reading a lot but it seems it's not that worth. Can you confirm this? Also, it seems a lot of shops closed down.
Erotic massage parlors.
I personally love massage parlors with happy endings. No sex involved in this scenario. Can you recommend me some of this kind of shops?
Waxing shops.
This is a kink of mine. I love to be waxed. Are there any salons that operate on men and can also provide an happy ending? It would be a blast.
Extra.
Whatever you think I should or could try.
My first visit to Luxe (oppai bar). I'm getting good at dodging the Nigerian touts on the street. Don't make eye contact. Offer a stern "no" to their advance. Or, say nothing at all. Do not shake the hand. One guy actually tugged on my jacket to which I raised my voice "do not touch me! He ran away. After a few beers and tiddies in my face I'll joke with them, because I'm done for the night and going home.
Anyway. Luxe. Monday night around 21:30. There a frumpy-looking Japanese man on the street level just outside of the Luxe elevator. My defense was high and I thought he might be a middle-man so I ignored him. He actually works for Luxe. He's ok. I meet the handler on the 4th floor. Gargle mouthwash. Read the rules and prices. Wait 5 minutes (it was getting busy in there). My plan is just do 40 minutes, meet three girls for a total of 6 tiddies in my face, drink 3 little beers then go eat. Its my first time so 7000 Y and I'm in the door.
First girl, Haruka, 22, petite, cute, pretty, perfectly shaped be cups (I'm using western cup sizes.) She was very bubbly, slightly janky teeth. We laughed a lot, she was very friendly, needed no prompting, she hopped on, dropped her top and pushed my face into her pillows without any provocation. It was difficult to not nominate her. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y.
2nd girl, Sachi, 24, a little taller, a little less pretty than Haruka, gorgeous smile, slim but with generously sized, natural, western the-cup breasts with just a little sag. I'm a breast man and the sight of her assets made me want to buy her a house. She a little less forward than Haruka, a little more shy. But I know how to be friendly and playful with a girl and open her up. We had fun. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y. She gave me her Line. I will try to meet her outside of the club for some p4 p. Or maybe I will buy her a house.
Then I got presented with the final bill. 5000 Y for lady drinks. Why not 6000 I don't know. I protested to the man that I only got two girls. He mumbled something about being too busy. I was tired and hungry and wanted to leave anyway. I got Sachi's number and a coupon for another discounted 40-min. Next time I will go at 8 pm when the club is less crowded to get my full 3-girl rotation. Thanks gain to Traveller X for the strategy.
Traveler X
12-03-24, 06:44
First girl, Haruka, 22, petite, cute, pretty, perfectly shaped be cups (I'm using western cup sizes.)..It was difficult to not nominate her. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y.You're in charge, it is a tough call to make. I always point out how cheap it all is and better value than strip clubs. You can't get girls to kiss you and the rest even if you spent 10 times as much. I know, I wrote the strip club guides too.
She a little less forward than Haruka, a little more shy. But I know how to be friendly and playful with a girl and open her up. We had fun. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y. She gave me her Line.This is the way. Treat the girls well and sometimes you can go far.
I will try to meet her outside of the club for some p4 p. Or maybe I will buy her a house.Hold up. I know you are joking, but this is no laughing matter. Let me show how serious this is with a meme.
My first visit to Luxe (oppai bar). I'm getting good at dodging the Nigerian touts on the street. Don't make eye contact. Offer a stern "no" to their advance.This is the way. A lot of countries have aggressive targeting of tourists, but harmless if you keep moving and say no. Tuk tuks in Thailand, Nigerian touts in Kabukicho.
5000 Y for lady drinks. Why not 6000 I don't know. I protested to the man that I only got two girls. He mumbled something about being too busy..I got Sachi's number and a coupon for another discounted 40-min.Good to know, I've always gotten 3 girls but I avoid busy times. I suppose as long as you liked the girls and got 40 minutes, it worked out. I hope this is not common, but but the 3 girl system is mainly just in case you don't like some. I try to keep expectations low when getting LINE contact, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks gain to Traveller X for the strategy.No, thank YOU for licking their tits and sharing the fun story about them. I never once got blueballed from chatting with cute girls and licking their tits. Only from dating. Not often in the real world you play with a cute girl first and then got her number after.
Traveler X
12-03-24, 06:49
I'll travel to Japan in April for almost a month.Some of your requests are out of my area of expertise, a few are within. For pink salons, if you see my Manzoku link they are experts who can help. I've done much of the research, you will have to do the rest. I don't believe I can help anyone if they aren't willing to "do the rest" themselves. I'm just pointing the way.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542
I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703
We met and went into a love hotel. She immediately grabbed my hand as we walked. Even though we were definitely a mismatch in terms of looks / age / everything I loved it. I was horny from the very beginning. You're in kabukicho anyway, so when in Rome!
Shizuku is a sexy little thing. She looks like she loves sex as soon as you see her. Her pics in the blog are unedited. So what you see there is exactly who shows up. Petite, tight body, double eyelids, few slutty tramp stamp tattoos in all the right places, jet black hair. You can't tell with clothes but when she takes it off she has a great shape. Perfect perky tits and tight little bum, tight clean pussy with nice lips, smells like expensive perfume, and her mouth tastes like peppermint.
She's billed at 22, close if not exactly right. She's definitely early 20's, but much more mature and experienced in sex. She kept up with me the whole time, never shy, staring into my eyes looking for reactions when she licked under my dick head or stroked me off with her thighs.
Shizuku is great at kissing, great at giving BBBJ, plays with the cum when you shoot it in her mouth. Definite PSE experience. She's also one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen at THC. One of the prettiest overall too if I am being honest.
Her English is probably best described as beginner level. I was too lost in the experience to talk much. But she was able to talk about some different things. She knew all the sex terms and would ask me what I liked, if something felt good, and told me she felt good when she was riding my face. She said she felt more comfortable doing sexual stuff with foreign guys, and I got a sense that was genuine during the actual acts. I meant she really seemed to savor my semen.
I had a great two hours with her. It was one of my better experiences at THC. Glad to see they keep bringing in new girls. I hope they will all be like Shizuku.
Traveler X
12-03-24, 22:08
I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703You know how to pick them! No wonder 2 hours, love her look. Reminds me of Leslie K in Socal, alternative look with arm tattoos, young. I notice some shops have tiers like the Gold level you mentioned. It makes a lot of sense, some JAV stars like Aika are Legend tier and you can't even book her without first leveling up by booking regular girls. Some of whom are pretty hot too.
Everyone should post what they feel comfortable, no pressure. I sometimes get PMs from people who had a great trip, it's great to hear and you don't have to post if you don't want. I get it, I was the same way when I started. But for those can, even a short post will help encourage the next person to have a happy memory.
For the same reason, some guys don't want to post "girl X charges Y" for FS. So what I sometimes do is just make a general post saying "1 girl was 10 k, 2 girls was 20 k, etc. " or just a range like "10k-20k is common but I've had girls ask more". Whatever you think is right, since I've had PMs from people saying they were asked a lot more. It's frustrating and I think the solution is to share notes over time and people will figure out where to go. On the other hand, other people have no trouble posting prices. Like I said, that's how most girls make money and how the shop gets business. It's not like they don't want people to know it's available, they do. So do what you feel is right. Thanks for the report!
CCRider1008
12-03-24, 23:07
I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
I hope they will all be like Shizuku.I wonder if the tattoos are an indication of her good attitude? Don't see that often on Japanese women.
CCRider1008
12-03-24, 23:09
My first visit to Luxe (oppai bar).
2nd girl, Sachi, 24, a little taller, a little less pretty than Haruka, gorgeous smile, slim but with generously sized, natural, western the-cup breasts with just a little sag. I'm a breast man and the sight of her assets made me want to buy her a house. She a little less forward than Haruka, a little more shy. But I know how to be friendly and playful with a girl and open her up. We had fun. I bought her a drink. 3000 Y. She gave me her Line. I will try to meet her outside of the club for some p4 p. Or maybe I will buy her a house.
strategy.Curious. Did you ask for the Line # or did she offer it up?
CCRider1008
12-03-24, 23:20
Thank you for reporting what you got. Others will follow our clues and go even further. Kira Kira is really convenient and always foreigner friendly. Yokohama is an easy 'half day' trip with cheap and easy access by train. Definitely going at a slow time is better.
Kira Kira is perfect for first timers. fantastic alibis.I could not find a website for Kira Kira. Do they have one to your knowledge?
SpeedLight88
12-04-24, 01:59
That post alone makes me want to go to Japan now. Great post!
I just met up with Shizuku from THC in Shinjuku. I was looking for a good time with a slutty girl and was told she fit the bill. She's Gold level, so a little more money. But what a little bombshell. I got her for two hours and came in her mouth a couple of times.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2703
We met and went into a love hotel. She immediately grabbed my hand as we walked. Even though we were definitely a mismatch in terms of looks / age / everything I loved it. I was horny from the very beginning. You're in kabukicho anyway, so when in Rome!
Shizuku is a sexy little thing. She looks like she loves sex as soon as you see her. Her pics in the blog are unedited. So what you see there is exactly who shows up. Petite, tight body, double eyelids, few slutty tramp stamp tattoos in all the right places, jet black hair. You can't tell with clothes but when she takes it off she has a great shape. Perfect perky tits and tight little bum, tight clean pussy with nice lips, smells like expensive perfume, and her mouth tastes like peppermint.
She's billed at 22, close if not exactly right. She's definitely early 20's, but much more mature and experienced in sex. She kept up with me the whole time, never shy, staring into my eyes looking for reactions when she licked under my dick head or stroked me off with her thighs.
Shizuku is great at kissing, great at giving BBBJ, plays with the cum when you shoot it in her mouth. Definite PSE experience. She's also one of the prettiest girls I've ever seen at THC. One of the prettiest overall too if I am being honest.
Her English is probably best described as beginner level. I was too lost in the experience to talk much. But she was able to talk about some different things. She knew all the sex terms and would ask me what I liked, if something felt good, and told me she felt good when she was riding my face. She said she felt more comfortable doing sexual stuff with foreign guys, and I got a sense that was genuine during the actual acts. I meant she really seemed to savor my semen.
I had a great two hours with her. It was one of my better experiences at THC. Glad to see they keep bringing in new girls. I hope they will all be like Shizuku.
Traveler X
12-04-24, 09:43
Kira Kira
I could not find a website for Kira Kira. Do they have one to your knowledge?
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira website for foreigners.
https://kirakira.yokohama/ Kira Kira website for Japanese.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459 Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631 My first visit to Kira Kira.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964777&viewfull=1#post2964777 Kira Kira then a 12 minute walk to lunch at Sakuragicho.
Curious. Did you ask for the Line # or did she offer it up?
I've seen it both ways. I would keep expectations low.
I wonder if the tattoos are an indication of her good attitude? Don't see that often on Japanese women.
It's not common but getting more common. I've seen a lot of women, it doesn't really tell you about attitude.
Guides
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2946666#post2946666 Japan beginner guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 Oppai pub guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461 How to get to Manzoku, other info
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542 My first oppai pub experience
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963634&viewfull=1#post2963634 Some DH info
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962969&viewfull=1#post2962969 More DH info
Shops Mentioned
https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club <- Most recent post by RickRock
https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama <- Past post by RickRock
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832 Random list of foreigner friendly shops by Yoasobi
There are a lot more choices but these are some that have been mentioned. You will have to research them yourself since my expertise is in oppai pubs and everything below the fs level. I get most of my fs in the USA between jgirls and kgirls (guides available), then I focus on oppai pubs in Japan which don't exist in the USA.
Everyone should post what they feel comfortable, no pressure. I sometimes get PMs from people who had a great trip, it's great to hear and you don't have to post if you don't want. I get it, I was the same way when I started. But for those can, even a short post will help encourage the next person to have a happy memory.
For the same reason, some guys don't want to post "girl X charges Y" for FS. So what I sometimes do is just make a general post saying "1 girl was 10 k, 2 girls was 20 k, etc. " or just a range like "10k-20k is common but I've had girls ask more". Whatever you think is right, since I've had PMs from people saying they were asked a lot more. It's frustrating and I think the solution is to share notes over time and people will figure out where to go. On the other hand, other people have no trouble posting prices. Like I said, that's how most girls make money and how the shop gets business. It's not like they don't want people to know it's available, they do. So do what you feel is right. Thanks for the report!This is good advice.
Mr. Traveler X!
Just want to thank you for the awesome information on Tokyo and around!! Been reading up on some of these the past few days when I've had the time, and hopefully I will be able to try something on my short 3 trip to Japan! Only screw up is I'm going to be around Narita airport. : the But will try to head to the places you mentioned.
Once again thanks you're an awesome guy!! Cheers!!
Kira Kira
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira website for foreigners.
https://kirakira.yokohama/ Kira Kira website for Japanese.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459 Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631 My first visit to Kira Kira.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964777&viewfull=1#post2964777 Kira Kira then a 12 minute walk to lunch at Sakuragicho.
I've seen it both ways. I would keep expectations low.
It's not common but getting more common. I've seen a lot of women, it doesn't really tell you about attitude.
Guides
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2946666#post2946666 Japan beginner guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 Oppai pub guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461 How to get to Manzoku, other info
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542 My first oppai pub experience
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963634&viewfull=1#post2963634 Some DH info
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962969&viewfull=1#post2962969 More DH info
Shops Mentioned
https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club <- Most recent post by RickRock
https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama <- Past post by RickRock
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate. Trash talking by request
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/luxe-story/ Luxe Oppai pub, if you speak no Japanese and wonder what it's like to be Japanese..
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832 Random list of foreigner friendly shops by Yoasobi
There are a lot more choices but these are some that have been mentioned. You will have to research them yourself since my expertise is in oppai pubs and everything below the fs level. I get most of my fs in the USA between jgirls and kgirls (guides available), then I focus on oppai pubs in Japan which don't exist in the USA.
CCRider1008
12-05-24, 15:46
Kira Kira
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira website for foreigners.
https://kirakira.yokohama/ Kira Kira website for Japanese.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station.
There are a lot more choices but these are some that have been mentioned. You will have to research them yourself since my expertise is in oppai pubs and everything below the fs level. I get most of my fs in the USA between jgirls and kgirls (guides available), then I focus on oppai pubs in Japan which don't exist in the USA.Traveler once again many thanks for the great response and info.
I have 6 days in Tokyo after spending 4 in Osaka / Kyoto and 2 in Hakone. So time is somewhat limited since I will be doing tourist stuff. I had planned on making GFE Soapland my soapland experience simply because of the foreigner orientation which I know is a lazy way out in deciding. But the girls at Kira Kira look a lot more appealing. So which shop would you recommend? I may not have time to travel for a 2nd soapie run.
Traveler X
12-05-24, 19:11
Traveler once again many thanks for the great response and info.
I have 6 days in Tokyo after spending 4 in Osaka / Kyoto and 2 in Hakone. So time is somewhat limited since I will be doing tourist stuff. I had planned on making GFE Soapland my soapland experience simply because of the foreigner orientation which I know is a lazy way out in deciding. But the girls at Kira Kira look a lot more appealing. So which shop would you recommend? I may not have time to travel for a 2nd soapie run.
You have to make the call. I only know Kira Kira is reliable, maybe GFE Soapland is good too. Here's my criteria - Kira Kira's customers are almost all Japanese and they've operated a very long time. Japanese customers have a higher expectation of service than tourists. So I already knew before even my first visit that the service would be good. My budget is time so I've always had a rule to choose "for Japanese" shops whenever possible. So while I recommend Luxe to people who can't speak Japanese, Leicester and Hosekibako are better for those who can. A few users have reported inconsistency on service or occasional GPS pricing (in the case of DH) at "for foreigner" fs shops. They are worth trying, but with DH be prepared to negotiate (I know you are asking about soap but this post is to help everyone). So I'm just saying if you only have one chance, maybe try the "most reliable" place. But that's just my criteria.
Delivery Health Negotiation
I know some guys prefer Delivery Health, and a few have PM'd me about girls quoting high prices. To sum it up, you say 10k or 20k first, don't let her say a number first. Nothing is guaranteed with DH. I used to write guides on negotiating fs with strippers in VIP. Here's two summaries for how to negotiate in Japan:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962146&viewfull=1#post2962146 Negotiate first at DH
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2961999&highlight=negotiate#post2961999 Negotiate first at DH
I say this because sometimes girls at "for foreigner" places look at tourists different, thinking they have lots of money and won't be repeat customers. That combo can lead to this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964193&highlight=negotiate#post2964193
DH requires some trial and error, here is one user who tried 2 girls. First he didn't want fs with, second girl he did for 10K and called her stellar. Just goes to show that a great girl will take 10k while another girl who barely does the minimum can ask 35k thinking she only needs a few guys to take it.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964148#post2964148
If you really want to know, here is the girl's perspective on guys. Respect the adversary, if you understand how they think you can skip to the conclusion and both be happy fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO6JXWfXSRs
Public Transportation
Just want to thank you for the awesome information on Tokyo and around!! Been reading up on some of these the past few days when I've had the time, and hopefully I will be able to try something on my short 3 trip to Japan! Only screw up is I'm going to be around Narita airport. : the But will try to head to the places you mentioned.
If it's 3 days you want to stay in Tokyo, most things like food and fun are really cheap compared to USA or Europe. Use public transportation like the train. Orfrom Narita Airport, I always take the "airport limousine bus" which is a direct route luxury bus with AC, wifi. They are on time to the minute and depart to all major destinations including many hotels. Make sure to stand at the right numbered sign, give your ticket to the guy and ask him in English if "Okay". Lots of airport staff can help you buy tickets and find the spot.
If you want oppai pubs or delivery health, head towards Shinjuku (or Shibuya for some DH). If you want soapland and are interested in Kira Kira Yokohama, head to Yokohama station. You have three options: Yokohama to Hinodecho (4 minute train) then 5 minute walk to Kira Kira, or Sakuragicho (food heaven) and 13 minute walk to Kira Kira, or direct taxi from Yokohama. See the google map link, notice at the moment of this post it's 2AM in Japan so if you tried to google maps it it would tell you to walk 35 minutes, because all the trains are done. Try it again daytime and it will tell you better. =)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Map Link to Kira Kira
I am taking a break from posting but will try to organize info better later. It's better if others post their reviews than for me to repeat information too much. What happens is people tend to ask for things on page 2 through 5, yes it's possible to read it all but there is a better way. I'll create a new thread in the 'user blog' section but don't know when. If you can find it, you passed the test.
So I went back to Luxe last night and got the same girl (Renka) as my first trip here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964193&viewfull=1#post2964193.
Unfortunately not as good of a time. She asked for a drink within 3 minutes of sitting down, which I happily got her but it was a stark difference from the first time. Then she said her birthday was coming up later this month, which I said I won't be here since I'm going home soon. She said, that's ok I want to celebrate it now with you. Oh boy here we go. I said how can we celebrate? She said let's get a small champagne bottle. On luxe's website they don't even list the prices of bottles. I had to think fast and said ok I'll come back in 2 days. She got all happy. These girls can smell blood from a mile away. They see a guy come back for them and it's game on.
The problem is that I have multiple 7,000 yen entry coupon cards and I want to see other girls, but now not sure how to go in, get other girls without possibly angering her LOL.
Another note, there were a group of Koreans to my left and a group of Chinese to my right, and they weren't kissing or fondling titties at all (for the entire 40 minutes I was there). The girls just had their legs over them. Those guys were too shy. After a few minutes, you got to take control and go for it otherwise the girls will love to just sit there without any work.
Total damage: 130,000 + 2,000 LD = 150,000. (Included 4,000 nomination discount since I got her card from the first visit.).
Polaris soapland in Ikebukuro.
Massive fail here. Now instead of following all the great advice that I did read here about kira kira, GFE soapland, I thought why travel all that way when I'm staying in Ikebukuro and I can simply walk within 10 minutes to a soapland? What could go wrong?
I went at 10 am without reservation, tencho said 330,000 for 70 minutes or 290,000 for 50 minutes. I chose 70 minutes. Then he only shows me 1 card, says she's very cute. Major red flag, but small head overtook and I said ok. Now I'm absolutely 100% sure they keep this girl strictly for foreigners. She was short, thick thighs, overweight, dark skin, acne scars, looked more SE Asian than Japanese. There is absolutely no way on earth any Japanese man would find her acceptable. Have you ever seen a girl like this on any ad or billboard? 0, nada, zilch.
And this is my fault but I assumed all soaplands include nuru gel body slide. Instead it was just a bed and bath inside, no room for any mat. I actually look forward more to body slide than FS. Overall what a total disaster. We had 20 minutes left, but I bounced early. I could tell this confused the poor girl, she was very sweet and kind. I actually think it was a cruel joke from the tencho recommending her.
Anyway in summary, in order to play and have fun here, you really need high Japanese language skills. It's not like you will come here and get with JAV tier girls. (Unless you go to tobita shinichi in Osaka.) Plus it's not super fun to point, grunt, and use Google translate. You do this a few times and it gets boring fast.
AussieGaigin
12-06-24, 10:44
So I went back to Luxe last night and got the same girl (Renka) as my first trip here:
Total damage: 130,000 + 2,000 LD = 150,000. (Included 4,000 nomination discount since I got her card from the first visit.)..So over US $1,000? That is getting expensive.
Traveler X
12-06-24, 12:34
I created a new user blog to make it easier to find my guides:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012 Traveler X guides
So I went back to Luxe last night and got the same girl (Renka) as my first trip here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964193&viewfull=1#post2964193
Unfortunately not as good of a time. She asked for a drink within 3 minutes of sitting down, which I happily got her but it was a stark difference from the first time. Then she said her birthday was coming up later this month, which I said I won't be here since I'm going home soon. She said, that's ok I want to celebrate it now with you. Oh boy here we go. I said how can we celebrate? She said let's get a small champagne bottle. On luxe's website they don't even list the prices of bottles. I had to think fast and said ok I'll come back in 2 days. She got all happy. These girls can smell blood from a mile away. They see a guy come back for them and it's game on.
Welcome back! Yes, your paragraph sums it up. Girls are looking for whales (rich guys) to come back and spend 3x - 10x as much on them. To be clear, you don't have to. Her tits and smile are just as sweet! She will lay on her charm since she knows she's what you came here for. Look on the bright side, you made the perfect response which is "haha maybe I will do that NEXT TIME" even if tomorrow was your flight, or you plan on licking her friend's tits instead. Everybody happy. I wrote about "whale hunting" when I advised against doing VIP rooms (spending 3x) in July:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 No need for VIP at Luxe (July)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2927688&viewfull=1#post2927688 No need for VIP at Luxe (July)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 Oppai pub guide with links to 7 posts
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/ Luxe website
https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/ Leicester, if you know some Japanese
https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com/ Hosekinobako, if you know some Japanese
The problem is that I have multiple 7,000 yen entry coupon cards and I want to see other girls, but now not sure how to go in, get other girls without possibly angering her LOL.
That is a wonderful problem! There is some chance she'll see you lick her rival's tits. But isn't that amazing? She can see with every passionate kiss you give her rival, that you are not her pet. Renka probably knows her job already, it's not on you. There are some hostess jdramas using this as a plot line, but you are the main character. Always be a polite but firm gentleman, give a decent excuse and let her save face. If you dare, you can be like me and say "I has such a good time with you Renka, that I wanted to see if it was even possible with any other woman."
I would love to have multiple 7000 yen cards for girls I want to revisit. Having a woman you like watch you make out with another girl you also like, is something people pray to God for. You are on your way to being the next Traveler X, keep pointing the way.
By the way, this was your post 1 month ago asking about oppai pubs. You were concerned Luxe looks very high end. Japan does a good job impressing us, enjoy it. Many people are nervous their first time to a strip club or oppai pub, but you are the customer. As you can see, it's okay to go alone and the girls are going to take care of you. Not a problem as you can see. Congratulations for joining the 1% of tourists who have an extra happy memory. Tell your mom Japan is a beautiful country with four seasons and that you'd love to go back and see more.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 Update (Nov 2024) - Bribs is researching
Another note, there were a group of Koreans to my left and a group of Chinese to my right, and they weren't kissing or fondling titties at all (for the entire 40 minutes I was there). The girls just had their legs over them. Those guys were too shy. After a few minutes, you got to take control and go for it otherwise the girls will love to just sit there without any work.
All who love Japanese women are brothers, no matter where you are from. If you are listening to this message from Korea or China, please lick their tits. You don't have to, but you know you want to. My first time I asked "Hey, I heard you can hop on me?" and she did. "And can I see your tits?" She showed me. "I can lick them?" Douzou (go ahead) she said! I am not religious but I gave a quick thanks to God and my mom for being born, and I began. I became Traveler X that day.
This is an OPPAI pub. Oppai means breasts. Don't offend the Japanese by acting like their tits are not good enough for you. Yes I like to take things slow and flirt a bit, but you might have 10 minutes with a girl so have her hop on halfway at about 5. And yes, I get it. Your friends or coworkers are sitting there with you, so you have two options. Option 1 is you make a secret pact that nobody snitches on your girlfriends and wives. Option 2 is you go to oppai pubs and strip clubs alone like Bribs and Traveler X. I recommend option 2.
Massive fail here. Now instead of following all the great advice that I did read here about kira kira, GFE soapland, I thought why travel all that way when I'm staying in Ikebukuro and I can simply walk within 10 minutes to a soapland? What could go wrong?
There are a lot of "no name" places that open up shop where lots of people walk by and rely on "I need sex now" business. We have to rely on intel or it's just going to be random. If you got 1 bad girl at an oppai pub, you still have 2 other girls and your beer and it only cost 7000 yen. So you could say it's a 2000 loss. Soaplands are 15x the risk in that sense and a once in a while thing. Good shops will generally have Japanese girls working, making rare exceptions. They are going to focus on repeat customers who are happy. Some of the better ones will be located off the busy streets, because the rent is cheaper and happy repeat customers know to go straight there.
Anyway in summary, in order to play and have fun here, you really need high Japanese language skills. It's not like you will come here and get with JAV tier girls. (Unless you go to tobita shinichi in Osaka.) Plus it's not super fun to point, grunt, and use Google translate. You do this a few times and it gets boring fast.
The better girls will take care of you no problem. I find having just one clear statement at the start of the sessions is all you need. For example, "I want to try the standard soapland course " and start with that. But at any point, you can take over and ask for oral sex or start full sex. For example I really enjoyed nuru but after 10 minutes suggested we go to the bed. With a confident smile I can point at the bed and say "Let's go". And use the blowjob hand motion. I do that and point at my dick and let me tell you 100% of girls understood and got right to it.
For those coming from the USA, certain regions also have fs options for jgirls and kgirls (Japanese and Korean). The service is excellent, on average superior to even Japan. Typically 320-350 USD an hour, and most jgirls offer video and bb for an extra fee. ISG has a sister site USAG with more info for those who cannot come to Japan. I cannot help with screening, just pointing the way. OC and NYC examples:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC Orange county HYA
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB Orange county Korean BB
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan NYC, mostly jgirls
Member #4807
12-06-24, 13:47
My upcoming first Japan trip next month but already gathering information. Special thanks to you Traveller X, your the man! You are the most valuable asset here. The information you provides on Japan's underground industry and its unique subcultures is unparalleled. Insights into everything, from ordinary massages to high-end soaplands, offering a level of expertise that's unmatched. I"m not someone who's immediately looking for full-service experiences, so from what I'm reading, the 'oppai' scene seems like it could be a perfect fit for me, considering as well my zero ability to speak Japanese LOL. First and foremost I will be focusing on the typical tourist spots like Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka, with all the incredible experiences, rather than a full blown mongering trip like what I do in Thailand. But during my 3 week stay will for sure frequent some fun zones. Are the maid cafes any interesting in terms of adult fun? I am ok with all the flirt and fun, I don't get blue balls easily so that might sound like another good option.
Once again thanks Traveller X.
Great pieces of information in this thread, thanks to the vets. Huge shout out to Traveler X,Rick Rock, et al.
I am looking for a consolidated Google map of the establishments in Kabukicho and other areas.
Is this somewhere buried in the pages here? Not able to fish out. Apologies if I overlooked it.
Plenty of time to take a bus ride to Shinjuku for all sorts of exciting entertainment, restaurants, bars, clubs.
The Tokyu Express bus picks up right outside the terminal every 10-15 minutes, arrives at Shinjuku Kabukicho Tower in about 1.5 hours. Return to the airport the same way.
Plenty of hotels within couple hundred feet, APA Kabukicho, Premier Cabin, ect. Also couple dozens less-known hotels rent by the hour or all night. A sauna / health club lets clients stay all night for $20.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
A few hot street girls hang around Okubo hospital. Not sure if they are still there. Homeless teenagers hangout, play games at the plaza in front of the K Tower.
Subtracting 3 hours bus rides from and to the airport, you still have 14 hours for sensory overload in exotic Shinjuku. Haneda is only half hour bus ride from Shinjuku.Thanks for the tips. I am a layover at Haneda coming up, and I plan on exploring Shinjuku and find some actions if possible. My flight will land at Haneda at 8 PM and my next flight leave at 10 AM the next day. I wonder if there are adult entertainment that will open 24 HR.
Hello everyone,
This is my first post. I was in Japan for two weeks, and the information here was invaluable. I'll report on the places I visited and how my experiences were. For reference, I am an American and cannot speak Japanese even a little.
Luxxe (make-out bar).
I went to Luxxe twice. Foreign friendly. The first nice was great, but the second time was very mediocre. Experiences here depend on the luck of the draw in terms of the girls you get. Some will take their top off, sit in your lap, and make out with you, and others will only talk. It is worth the visit if you have never been to an oppai bar, but once the novelty wears off, it loses its charm a bit.
Lovely hands (erotic massage parlor).
There have been mixed reviews about this place. I had a very mediocre experience. I felt I paid a lot for mediocre service from a very average-looking provider. Having said that, like in most places quality of experience will depend on the girl. Knowing what I know now, I would pay the extra 2500 to 3500 yen and nominate the hottest / best girl available. I saw an absolute smoke show coming out of another room as I was leaving.
Soaplands tried:
Kira Kira: Extensively reviewed in this thread. It lives up to the hype. Great service as always. Average to cute-looking women providing extremely good service at a non-extortive asking price.
GFE Soapland: After Kira Kira, I wanted to try something a little more high-end. Again, in all likelihood, experiences vary from girl to girl. The highly rated girl I originally booked canceled her shift a day prior and I went with another provider. She was okay to good, but I would not repeat at that price point. GFE soapland is pricey.
DH (Direct Health AKA escort services):
Tokyo Hentai Club: Got lucky with an absolute smoke show. Quite possibly the best sexual experience I have had in my life. I will not go into details on the encounter as the girl explicitly asked me to keep specifics a secret, but that alone should tell you what you need to know. Ngl, I think I fell in love a little bit.
Great pieces of information in this thread, thanks to the vets. Huge shout out to Traveler X,Rick Rock, et al.
I am looking for a consolidated Google map of the establishments in Kabukicho and other areas.
Is this somewhere buried in the pages here? Not able to fish out. Apologies if I overlooked it.Not that I know of, but Google maps is excellent these days. What you can do is write down a list of the places you are interested in. Then just punch them into Google maps. They will all come up.
IMO Kabukicho isn't all that great. But there are some places there where you can get good service:
Tokyo Hentai Club.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/xprVDYX4qBwegzWe7
Asian Feelings.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gs2PXqNSc15pYZTL6
Madonna.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/c59VGEgzHPaxgEiH6
Lovely Hands
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pXWZCcytZ7DcpSuy7
Kristopher19
12-10-24, 15:17
Alright, After doing much research on this website and digging around on the linked websites I started my journey in Tokyo. This was my first time traveling to Japan with 0 Japanese skills, so Travel X and other posters suggestions really came through.
The Good- GFE Soapland:
After looking around at the options at GFE Soapland, I decided to go with Ria. Oh she's not available despite what the website says. How about Mika? Neither was she. So I finally landed on Marin. https://gfe-japan.net/profile?cp_id=2215
She looked pretty fine, like most of the girls at GFE. So appointment booked, a quick 20 minute train ride later I made it to the location. I noticed a few more soaplands along the way and made a mental note of it. The facility was nice, I walked in and initially wanted the 60 min option. They pushed me to get the 75 minute options (or was it 90?) since that included the Nuru oil massage. I decided to go with it. A few minutes later out came Marin, she guided me up to her room. The whole facility was flashy (covered in pink lights) and had mirrors everywhere. Marin was not quite 27, she was def in her 30's. But that was expected. One rule of thumb I figured out with these facilities, if they say the girl is 21, she's likely 25. If they say she's 26, she's likely in her 30's. Didn't matter, Marin was still good looking, and the quality of service she provided made her stellar.
As soon as we got in, she started undressing me and started the BBBJ. It was surprising, and surprisingly good. She claimed she couldn't wait, but I told her let's do the Nuru first. I needed to get the full benefit of the money I paid. The slime was quite hot and relaxing. We bathed before and after the Nuru session. She played slip and slide with my front and my back. She licked me everywhere, even sliding her her tongue between my cheeks (not my thing, but still felt good). We had some great DFK, she was just genuinely enthusiastic with everything she did. After the last bath and shower, we got on to the bed. And a passionate session later, I was spent. Overall this was just a fantastic experience, and set the bar unrealistically high (I'll explain in a bit) for me.
Return to GFE Soapland:
This time I picked Shuri.
https://gfe-japan.net/profile?cp_id=2340
I wanted someone in her mid 20's, and figured the 21 yo would actually be that. When I saw her, she was absolutely stunning. About as close to her pics as could be. However, when she smiled, I saw some of the yellowest teeth in my life. She may have been a heavy smoker I guess. I didn't pick the Nuru option this time, I just needed to experience that once. Either way, I had a great session, and she was down for everything. Cosplay, BBBJ and the actual session were very good. She treated me well, but Marin still outshone her.
The BAD. HTC Tokyo:
I decided to venture further up north and seek out the well reviewed HTC. I saw this girl Jennifer.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1232.
She was an absolute tattooed stunner. Somehow she was a "Silver" girl, despite being one of the better looking ones. She looked half Japanese, but her blog pics looked like she was pure white. I booked her for that afternoon. I had some trouble finding the location, and the trains were delayed because of a person that was on the tracks. I messaged them and apologized for it. I finally made it about 30 minutes late. I went downstairs to the basement to enter the facility. A short lesbian looking Japanese girl greeted me and took my name. I said I was there for Jennifer. Then she asked me "Excuse me, are you from **insert Middle East country here* I said "No, I am from the states". I could see some bad news coming. She says "I am sorry, Jennifer does not like to see Muslims". First off, what the fuck? I am not a Muslim, and the country my family is from is not known as a Muslim country, besides which I'm an agnostic and spent all my life in the States. Not that any of this mattered since she I doubt she would understand what that meant. I said "I'm not a Muslim", she apologized and asked me to pick from another basic looking girl that was available. I considered it, but I was honestly very hurt from the racism. I get some places don't take foreigners because of language issues, but making a special exception for me based on my color, that ruined my day. I left very hurt. Even a sex worker made exceptions based on some ignorant predisposed notions. On my ride home, I started thinking about it. It's likely she had some bad experience from other people from my ilk who are very much entrenched in their backward culture. She's human after all, and can choose who she decides to serve. So I decided to stop being upset and let it go (I messaged them and said I understand why she rejected "my" people, and it was okay) and made my appointment with Shuri from GFE (see last paragraph).
The UGLY - Random spot in Kabukicho
A few days later I decided to head into Kabukicho and spend some time at Luxe. I'd agree with Traveler X. Try this spot once, and then move on to actually fucking women. It was a cool experience, and I got quite drunk from all the free beer and this hot chick that made out with me. I left a bit later than I expected, and tried to find a spot nearby. I spoke to the information stand guy, and asked if he could find me some "black gals" (it's always been my favorite in JAVs). He took me to a spot, but the wait inside was long. So he asked if I wanted to go somewhere else, I was quite horny and really needed to get laid. So I agreed, I can't quite remember where he took me. But it was a dark and dingy place. The guy at the reception was quite nice and friendly. The place was cheap. About 14,000. I picked this short girl from a stack of photos he showed me. I walked inside, and it was filled with tiny rooms with curtains on the outside. There was barely room for 1 mattress on the floor. A short chubby, Thai looking girl with stubby legs approached me, gave me some fresh towels, and asked me to take a shower. I followed her instructions. When I went back in waiting for the girl I picked, the chubby girl came back in and started to undress. I was a bit shocked, this maybe the ugliest girl I was about to have sex with. But I really needed a pop (in retrospect I should have gone home and watched porn). She said she'd need another 4 K for a BBBJ, and 10 K for a BBFS (ummm fuck no on both). She gave me a semi decent CBJ, and then got on top. We switched to missionary, but I really needed to not see her from the front. The doggy style was somewhat worse, because she stunk so bad. I doubt she ever took a shower despite making sure all her customers did. I couldn't finish it despite being drunk and stupid. I stopped, and she cleaned me up with alcohol wipes. I took another shower, and watched her stand around with a towel wrapped around her, talking to the staff. I'm a 100% sure this was for show, and she'd just wait for me to leave before moving on sans shower. I left thoroughly disgusted with myself and disappointed. I went home and showered some more.
BONUS - The Rip Off in Kyoto.
Alright this is from my experience in Kyoto. I couldn't find many resources for action on this website. I think the best ones I found were from Traveler X's links to https://yoasobi-heaven.com. The sites were confusing, and not very clear on what they offered. Soaplands were not common, I only found erotic massage parlors (which from what I recall only give you a handjob? I decided to try an outcall service for the first time. I figured I'd get better luck here. I found this fine sexy tattooed girl named Meisa from Gals network Kyoto.
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/kyoto/A2601/galsnet_kyoto/girlid-55556569/
Little did I know, my attraction to tattooed women would fail me again. I spoke with them through the yoasobi chat (I needed to create an account). And settled on 37400 yen. I figured it made sense since she'd have to travel alone and this prob covered the risk factor. I think I actually ended up talking directly to her. She arrived fairly quickly, when I opened the door to let her in, she didn't have the most friendly attitude. She looked older than her pics, her face wasn't very pretty. But still a sexy body nevertheless. She took a shower and then got nude and on my bed. She pulled out a bottle of something, and asked me to lay down on my back. She then proceeded to give me the weakest handjob I ever had. She handled my dick with her thumb and index finger like it was radioactive. I asked if I could touch her, and then proceeded to do so, suck on her tits. I even ventured down and gave her some DATY, figured it'd loosen her up. I moved up to kiss her, but she refused. Then I asked her to give me a BJ, she looked annoyed and confused. Then claimed this wasn't allowed, and obviously not sex either. What a fucking disappointment. I couldn't argue, because the chat specifically said "NO SEX OR WE CALL POLICE". I thought this was just their way of covering themselves, but I was wrong. It seems like nothing's really available in Kyoto. I still found her hot, and let her jack me off while I sucked on her tits. I finished, she cleaned up and chatted with me. Then while she was showing me things in her phone, I could clearly see a timer, counting down form 10 minutes. I let her leave, disappointed again. More so because this was an expensive mistake. I now ached for the amazing services of Marin.
I'm planning to hit up Osaka next, hoping for a better experience. I'm still finding navigating the sex industry there quite confusing. So I'm open to any suggestions. Thank you all!
Guys,
Today made my first foray though I am in the Land of the Rising Sun for the past 2 weeks and was ridden with work and non-mongering adventures.
Taking the cue from the experts here visited Luxe. Thought there was an initial SNAFU with Google Maps taking me to the alley behind the street and accosting Nigerian sales reps by the dozens.
Now coming to Luxe, it was great and thanks to you guys for directing me here, the positive side the girls were all Japanese (at least to me) and nice and sweet. The negative (not really) was opted for the 45 minutes and it passed like a breeze and it felt like a few minutes. Hello Einstein!
Got a rotation of 3 girls. Though they were nice, but I was looking around and felt that the better looking ones were booked by regulars and groups where champagne were flowing.
However had a good time and the 10 minutes with each girl felt like more of a preview / marketing of the girl where the bait was being cast for the long game.
Lots of good restaurants, AYCE Wagyu beef, sea food, ramen ect, good, delicious and surprisingly cheap. I really like the 24/7 Yakitory near the cinema and K Tower, delish $1 brochettes of meats and seafood grilled over charcoal, down with beers while ogling their very cute student waitresses.
Hentai and Soapland branches are within walking distances of Kabukicho Tower. Look them up.
Kapitan. Nice to see you in this thread, thanks to your huge help in Tijuana intel earlier. Looks like I am following your footsteps.
Luxe made be horny and I wanted to further my luck in the evening for some more tease.
Wandered around Kabukicho and found another joint but it was strongly anti-gaijin. The entrance had an intimidating "Japanese Only / No foreigners" signage.
So wandered off and went to the peep show on the street opposite godzilla. It was a different experience and gave the vibe that you are transported to the 80's.
The show was not so bad and for 2200 yen, spending 20 minutes for an experience I would never repeat was OK.
Traveler X
12-11-24, 01:35
I know there are other questions on this thread, but I'm only an expert on a few things so try to answer what I know. I believe most of my knowledge is best seen here on the user blog section:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012
This is my first post. I was in Japan for two weeks, and the information here was invaluable. I'll report on the places I visited and how my experiences were. For reference, I am an American and cannot speak Japanese even a little.Thank you for sharing your experience. I think your post really sums everything up. Oppai pubs are a cheap Japan specialty, I think it's worth checking out for most guys one time. Then the novelty wears off, I get that most guys want FS. A few guys like me find it magical, we all want something different. Amazing that we can visit Luxe even if we speak no Japanese. Kira Kira is cheap and reliable for beginners, they've been in business decades for a reason. I expect a decent looking women, my first girl was cute but a little thick, nice tits with good attitude and personality, fantastic service and worshipped me like a god. It was a refreshing thing to do right before lunch.
As you saw with Lovely hands and DH, there are all kinds of girls and some luck is involved. Though you can at least pick / reserve a girl by photo to get your body type even if the photo doesn't show face. Researching intel and reviews is another way, if you liked one of Rick Rock's girls and are patient you could check her schedule and reserve her. But not everyone has the luxury of time. After trying various girls, you found your dream girl. There is no guarantee, but we are here to help.
I will nominate your report for distinction since it touches on a little of everything. Thank you!
Taking the cue from the experts here visited Luxe. Thought there was an initial SNAFU with Google Maps taking me to the alley behind the street and accosting Nigerian sales reps by the dozens.
Now coming to Luxe, it was great and thanks to you guys for directing me here, the positive side the girls were all Japanese (at least to me) and nice and sweet. The negative (not really) was opted for the 45 minutes and it passed like a breeze and it felt like a few minutes. Hello Einstein!
Got a rotation of 3 girls. Though they were nice, but I was looking around and felt that the better looking ones were booked by regulars and groups where champagne were flowing.Thanks for mentioning this. There is only ONE rule everyone should follow in Kabukicho for your safety. Do NOT talk or engage with any nigerian touts, just walk past them and you are perfectly safe. That's all you have to do! They are scammers and some of my friends have been extorted at bars. One bar had a sign saying "membership is 100000 yen to enter" ($660 USD), so if they lead you in they will then demand you pay it. There's too many variations to list, it's always dumb stuff like that. I have never once been scammed in Japan, because I was warned and ignored them. Manzoku will never take you to a scam shop btw. You can use Manzoku to get into every shop that will allow foreigners. That's how I go into Hosekinobako and Leicester, because even though I can speak Japanese I don't want to prove it to them in-person, I'd rather Manzoku speed dial shops and get the green light. They greet me reverently when I show up, no language test (the Manzoku staff can tell I speak Japanese and are on my side).
About 40 minutes passing in a breeze, I know how it is but at least it's damn cheap at 7000 yen ($45). I will say the girls you get are the same as every regular customer. A few guys will return and nominate their favorite girl from last time, but that's the minority. So yes, you will see some guys with big grins sitting with some hotties but later in the night I got his girl anyways. A reminder that it is almost twice as expensive to extend 40 minutes as to enter, but if you find your girl then sure you stay. I once stayed with a girl 3 hours. Usually, I leave or extend just once to make it 80 minutes but that time I found my girl.
If you can speak Japanese (maybe 2 years level), you can bar hop to Leicester or Hosekinobako for their "first timer" discount, it was 6000 yen happy hour (8 pm on certain days) or 8000 yen prime hour (10 pm most days). I find about 8 pm-9 pm is ideal since more girls show up, 10 pm and later you might not be able to enter due to crowds. Use Manzoku to enter! Note that one American who can't speak Japanese got into Leicester and Hosekinobako just by showing his receipt from before. Or you can try showing your girl's card from Luxe. I don't know if this really works consistently but they just want to know the customer has money (won't run) and can follow rules (no first-timers) if they can't speak Japanese. I don't have a lot of experience with that route because I speak some Japanese and I cheat by going to Manzoku. I show that I obviously can speak conversational Japanese, so Manzoku will then introduce me to the shop on the phone saying "I have a Japanese speaking foreigner can he go in?" They never mention my race - my speaking ability and willingness to comply with common sense rules is all that matters.
IMO Kabukicho isn't all that great. But there are some places there where you can get good service:Yes I think if a guy is in Japan long-term, the end game is DH. But beginners or guys who are just in town a few days will want to check out Kabukicho for some unique samplings. I only go Kabukicho for oppai pubs (#1 spot for them), hostess clubs (not my thing but just for curiosity), and fetish clubs (see 3 kidnapped schoolgirls story). For just straight up sex you can use DH or if a first-timer, go KiraKira soapland and see if it's your thing. The reason I recommend Kira Kira is the average service is high. Then when you try DH you'll know right away if the girl is even trying and worth negotiating for FS. The current rate is 31000 for 70 minutes which is $204 USD. For the high service, it's good value.
If you are in Osaka, try out Tobita. Certain places we mention here have high success rates for foreigners, there is also the yoasobi portal for legit foreigner friendly shops. It is going to be hit and miss to wander the streets and find a place, since that will be a mix of legit shops and weak shops. There is a big gap between the best shops in Japan vs the weaker shops, and the best shops are often cheaper anyways.
Alright, After doing much research on this website and digging around on the linked websites I started my journey in Tokyo. This was my first time traveling to Japan with 0 Japanese skills, so Travel X and other posters suggestions really came through.Awesome intel, there is some trial and error if you are adventurous. I was the same way when I started. I will say if you are in Osaka, try Tobita. You will get FS and you get to pick the girls by looks. If there are some girls that take foreigners and others that don't, you'll know immediately because those that will take you will nod or beckon. If you see a girl you like, no harm in going straight for her. Because once you make a 2nd round through Tobita most girls will ignore you if they remember seeing you before, since they already made their "sales pitch". Fair enough, it is not a zoo. Tobita is a decent value.
As many have noticed, actual Japanese girls are superior to non-Japanese girls in Japan. Non-Japanese girls are often for tourist traps and bottom of the barrel places that touts lead you to. It is always better to research a place and go to a place several other guys have succeeded at. And while DH is another option, unfortunately it's going to depend on the girl and it seems like every Delivery Health shop has both good and bad girls. This is why I focus on shops that cater to Japanese customers since the girls on average are better. It's why I recommend Kira Kira which is 97% Japanese customers. Japanese customers have much higher standards, and Kira Kira has long been foreigner friendly. I avoid shops that are next to some busy road because those are just "tourist traps" for even Japanese. Kira Kira is in the middle of buildings, because regulars know to go straight there for some quick and cheap fun before lunch or dinner. Avoid rush hour.
Luxe made be horny and I wanted to further my luck in the evening for some more tease.
The show was not so bad and for 2200 yen, spending 20 minutes for an experience I would never repeat was OK.For those with extra time like DogLife, totally worth checking out the weird stuff like this. There used to be a strip club show similar to this but with really hot young girls, but it closed down after COVID:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099 New Hot Point
I used to get blowjobs at New Hot Point from 8s to 10s for 4000 yen, or $26 USD. I couldn't believe it, so sometimes I did it over and over all morning and my stack of money didn't even shrink. The key being it was a strip club where the strippers happened to offer blowjobs and handjobs so they were all young and hot.
This goes to show while in Japan, people should check out what Japan is good at. Sushi instead of McDonalds.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7125418&viewfull=1#post7125418 Japan specialties, arbitrage
I'm going to be in Tokyo for about a week and this trip is supposed to be my sexual Odyssey. I'm going to be arriving full of cum and I want to leave having shot out my entire lineage.
I'm looking for two types of experiences:
1) Good, cheap places to get HJ's and BJ's from relatively attractive young girls (I've heard most of the attractive ones work at FS joints and I'm not really into them) Any recs would be nice because I plan on going like 3 times a day.
2) Sexual experiences that are unique to Japan. To be more specific, I'm from the US. I don't really want to just find an escort or go to a Western style strip club. I'm trying to find experiences that I can only find in Japan.
For example, I read about Luxe and having 3 beautiful Japanese girls rub their tits on my face for that price is definitely something that is unique to Japan for me. Although, they don't let you nut so I'm also afraid that I'll have major blue balls after, but then I'd transition to #1 and find a BJ spot to drain me.
Thanks for all the info on the forum so far. Any info is much appreciated.
Not that I know of, but Google maps is excellent these days. What you can do is write down a list of the places you are interested in. Then just punch them into Google maps. They will all come up.
IMO Kabukicho isn't all that great. But there are some places there where you can get good service:
Tokyo Hentai Club.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/xprVDYX4qBwegzWe7
Asian Feelings.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gs2PXqNSc15pYZTL6
Madonna.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/c59VGEgzHPaxgEiH6
Lovely Hands
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pXWZCcytZ7DcpSuy7Thanks Rick! This is going to come in handy.
I am also realizing Kabukicho is mainly a tourist trap, but this will be a ready reckoner for the days I am feeling not traveling out of Shinjuku.
Thanks Rick! This is going to come in handy.
I am also realizing Kabukicho is mainly a tourist trap, but this will be a ready reckoner for the days I am feeling not traveling out of Shinjuku.I personally prefer using out-call services in most cases. Highly reviewed out-call options in the area are:
Tokyo Style https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/.
Tokyo Amateur Escort https://amateurtokyo.com/.
Tokyo Hentai Club https://hentaitokyo.com/.
I recently two excellent rendezvous with Sakura from Tokyo Style. The first was a short massage appointment. I was so impressed I immediately booked a longer "deluxe course" two days later.
As you can see, Sakura looks like a model:
https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Sakura
The pictures here are accurate. She blocks her face using her hand, but it's not edited. Or at least not that I can tell. That is how she really looks.
Sakura is beautiful, charming, classy and a fine English speaker! She put me at ease and impressed me at the same time. It was easy to get on with her since she's spent a lot of time in the West. Plus, she's just a really fun girl.
Her looks are top of the charts for me. She's what I would call a stunner.
Tall, well built, beautiful natural breasts, a natural bubble butt, smooth skin, silky hair.
She worked as a beautician and climbs mountains for a hobby. So you get a tight sexy body with a girl who takes care of her looks.
As far as the massage it was great. Well skilled hot oil massage with a lot of flirting. She looks great in a thong! The hand job to finish was very skilled, but it left me wanting for more.
On the later deluxe session she got totally naked. We had a very erotic bath together in the tiny love hotel tub. Then she stroked me loving for about an hour before sliding her oil covered nipples all over my legs and ass. Finally she sucked the cum out of me with an incredible two-handed technique.
Thinking about it now gets me turned on again. She's definitely an unsung star in Tokyo!
First 1 hour massage was 27000 Yen.
Second go was a 90 minute deluxe for 40000 Yen.
To repeat I would deluxe again. I loved sucking on her tits and her BJ is one of the best I've had.
Treat her right boys.
Traveler X
12-11-24, 22:36
1) Good, cheap places to get HJ's and BJ's from relatively attractive young girls (I've heard most of the attractive ones work at FS joints and I'm not really into them) Any recs would be nice because I plan on going like 3 times a day.I'd sure like to know too! I'm sorry to say I doubt it exists, I've waited years but no solid intel. The best I ever got was New Hot Point, a strip club that also offered BJ and HJ. Super cheap with hot girls. But it closed around Covid, this is a summary of NHP:
https://tokyonightstyle.com/blog/media/new-hot-point-review/ NHP review
https://rockitreports.com/review-new-hot-point-tokyo-japan/ NHP review
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2928099&viewfull=1#post2928099 The problem with bjs and hjs in Japan
Please stop reading here if you don't want to hear stories about things that no longer exist in Japan. NHP was a total unicorn, pics of girls as examples. Every single one of them sucked my dick for 4000 yen ($26). On repeat visits, some of them I got a quick HJ from 2000 yen ($13) though I usually upgraded to 3000 yen to play with their tits during hj. One girl Haruka I got her schedule card and would plan my sightseeing around her schedule (pink circle = morning, green = evening). They were nice girls and fun to chat with when my dick wasn't in their mouth. All young and beautiful - but this is NOT normal! A club like NHP can't survive today, Japan's bubble economy is over. Notice comments from the 2nd link that "Jan Jan is cheaper". Most guys would literally rather have a mid-30's housewife give them a BJ or HJ for less money, than get them from strippers. Blows my mind but that's the reality, bjs and hjs are considered cheap and dirty, most guys do NOT care about looks and just want it cheap as possible. NHP was considered "too expensive" for locals LOL.
Hjs and Bjs are 100% legal in Japan, and it is dirt cheap but you expect a 30's plain woman on average. A "HJ BJ only" shop is either weak girls or expensive for good girls (Lovely Hands is an example of an expensive one). I've asked for years but only got a lead on a shop in Kansai. I think it's because Tokyo rent is so high. I bet it still exists in Osaka but rarely go that far. Truth be told, hot and young girls gravitate to girls bars, oppai pubs, and delivery health these days. I think the rise of girls bars and DH the last 15 years has killed off any chance of another NHP.
2) Sexual experiences that are unique to Japan. To be more specific, I'm from the US. I don't really want to just find an escort or go to a Western style strip club. I'm trying to find experiences that I can only find in Japan.
For example, I read about Luxe and having 3 beautiful Japanese girls rub their tits on my face for that price is definitely something that is unique to Japan for me. Although, they don't let you nut so I'm also afraid that I'll have major blue balls after, but then I'd transition to #1 and find a BJ spot to drain me.This link lists the shop types in Japan. Other than oppai pubs I'd consider soapland or fetish. For veterans who want more, see Rick's post on DH.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666 Types of shops in Japan
Japanese girls tend to be cute, shy, demure. I've had a few rub their tits in my face but that's the exception, at an oppai pub you take the lead. Like I'll ask if a girl can hop on and she says sure and hops on. They are not aggressive, few jgirls are and most Japanese guys find aggressive a huge turn off. If I ask a girl to kiss, some give LFK while others give DFK. Every girl is different. Many guys talk about getting blue balls, I guess that's normal but a few guys like me don't. Some guys will go an oppai pub and then release elsewhere. But I'm weird, I prefer to go soapland in the morning like Kira Kira and bang it out with a girl who worships me. Then grab lunch. Then sightsee, the pressure is off because I got my sex already. Then right after dinner about 8 pm make out with girls at an oppai pub. It doesn't bother me, I like flirting with girls that obey my requests. But I get that other guys have their way and need the release to be at the end. Just make sure you plan ahead and research a legit place. Some shops are much more reliable than others.
Even though DH is ideal for pros, I get that newcomers and tourists might not be used to setting up an appointment. If you really want to wander around soaplands, Yoshiwara has a lot and I've heard some success there. You can just window shop without going if you're just curious, there are a lot of shops. It's not my thing just want to point out the option.
I recently two excellent rendezvous with Sakura from Tokyo Style. The first was a short massage appointment. I was so impressed I immediately booked a longer "deluxe course" two days later.
As you can see, Sakura looks like a model:
https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Sakura
To repeat I would deluxe again. I loved sucking on her tits and her BJ is one of the best I've had.
Treat her right boys.
For those visiting Japan, some shops are opening their doors to us foreigners. Treat the women right so more doors open. I've seen plenty of women and it is important to treat them respectfully, start things slow and make them feel safe and comfortable. I believe you will have a better time this way too.
Some guys will go an oppai pub and then release elsewhere. But I'm weird, I prefer to go soapland in the morning like Kira Kira and bang it out with a girl who worships me. Then grab lunch. Then sightsee, the pressure is off because I got my sex already. Then right after dinner about 8 pm make out with girls at an oppai pub.
If you think yourself to be weird, count me in too.
This has been my standard operating procedure in most of the places, not only here. I visited KiraKira the next day as per your and others advice and had a good time. (FR coming soon).
In Tijuana, I go to HK and give the dancers $1 and let them grind on me for a minute and my hand wanders everywhere. After a few rounds when I get in th mood, go pick up a girl from the alley, and have a great session.
More pay doesn't necessarily guarantee a better service. In the contrary, these establishment girls are there to squeeze out as much as possible from you and gets transactional.
Call me cheap, but I like to stretch the dollar here.
CCRider1008
12-13-24, 16:20
I recently two excellent rendezvous with Sakura from Tokyo Style. The first was a short massage appointment. I was so impressed I immediately booked a longer "deluxe course" two days later.
As you can see, Sakura looks like a model:
https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/profile.php?cid=Sakura
The pictures here are accurate. She blocks her face using her hand, but it's not edited. Or at least not that I can tell. That is how she really looks.s.$40,000 why for a covered BJ. Pass.
So over US $1,000? That is getting expensive.Almost 100% sure that he added an extra digit to most of his numbers there.
Read a few pages and I think I will be using one of the agencies like Taitanic or Tokyo Amateur for outcalls.
Do have a few questions. Do girls bring their own protection to sessions? I know vaginal sex isn't allowed but lets say you want to partake in AF or you just have a preference for covered service.
I'm confused about how sex in Japan works. All the escort websites I came across and saw put "Intercrural sex" on the page and it means no vaginal sex?
It's so different from the west where by default an escort does vaginal for sure.
How / where can I find actual sex in Tokyo? I don't speak Japanese and will only be transiting through, landing around 7 am Narita leaving 5 pm, which means I need to head back to airport around 1 or 2 pm. Any pointer is greatly appreciated.
I'm confused about how sex in Japan works. All the escort websites I came across and saw put "Intercrural sex" on the page and it means no vaginal sex?
It's so different from the west where by default an escort does vaginal for sure.
How / where can I find actual sex in Tokyo? I don't speak Japanese and will only be transiting through, landing around 7 am Narita leaving 5 pm, which means I need to head back to airport around 1 or 2 pm. Any pointer is greatly appreciated.Man, if you did even 5 minutes of searching here or on Google I think you'd find the answer to your question pretty easily.
It's illegal for girls to sell vaginal sex in Japan. Everything else is okay: HJ, BJ, anal (AF), intercrural sex (sumata). Just no vaginal sex.
The ONLY exception is at the soaplands. Why? Well at a soapland you are paying a girl to wash you. Anything else she does is just out of the goodness of her heart. In reality you get vaginal sex at every soapland in Japan. The problem there is that most soaplands (and most places in general) don't let foreigners in the door.
A few soaplands are reliable in that they are foreigner OK:
Casanova https://casanova-soapland.com.
GFE https://gfe-japan.net/faq.
Bunny Girls https://soapguide.net/ikebukuro-bunny-girl/.
Ikebukuro Gold https://soapguide.net/gold/.
There are more, but you sometimes need Japanese to get in. Or they might turn you away if you're the wrong nationality or something.
So if you want guaranteed vaginal sex you have to go to them.
Now if you get an escort from an agency, deli helu, fashion health, or whatever you MIGHT get vaginal sex. By law they can't offer it, so you will NEVER see that option written down anywhere. You aren't even allowed to ask for it. In reality some girls at certain places are known to offer it in private, usually by asking if you want to pay for a full option, secret option, or something like that.
They ARE allowed to do AF "anal fuck. " In reality when you pay for AF you often get vaginal sex once in the room. The girl just looks at your dick and says "too big for oshiri" or just sticks it in her pussy without saying anything.
If you read through the forum you will see guys got FS through some places like this. I most recently got it at Tokyo Amateur Escort. She asked and I took her up on it.
Though again, this is hit-or-miss. It's not guaranteed at all. More likely you get HJ, BJ and sumata (which BTW feels a lot like BBFS when done right).
To repeat: soaplands are the only guaranteed legal place to get vaginal sex in Japan. Period.
Like any country there are also illegal brothels and escorts. Some do vaginal sex, some don't. It's all illegal and quality is usually low. YMMV.
Read a few pages and I think I will be using one of the agencies like Taitanic or Tokyo Amateur for outcalls.
Do have a few questions. Do girls bring their own protection to sessions? I know vaginal sex isn't allowed but lets say you want to partake in AF or you just have a preference for covered service.Depends on the girl. The older ones at some of the well known places do. I would bring my own anyway though. Get one that actually fits on your dick! I've had way too many that didn't, and I am not especially hung.
$40,000 why for a covered BJ. Pass.40,000 dollars would indeed be a lot for a covered BJ.
What I paid was 260 dollars for 90 minutes of massage, bathing, mutual touching, and two orgasms, and company from a model quality beauty who is half my age.
You're free to get a BJ from an ugly old hausfrau at Jan Jan $26 if that better fits your budget and interests.
Had a dream I visited a few places in Tokyo.
Spent some time at Asian Feeling with Honey. Gave me a shower and massage. Topless touching was an extra 5,000 yen during the HJ. Gave a little massage and shower again. 11,000 yen for the house plus the additional extra (every place pretends like its a secret that they offer extras).
Visited Tokyo Hentai Club which felt like I was going to pick up a rental car. They have a little stall where you browse the computer for who is working that night. I picked JAV Milu. You sit on a sofa and wait 15 min for them to come by and then they walk you to a nearby love hotel awkwardly chatting along the way. She spoke a little english but had a cute face and a nice pair bolted on her. Gave me a shower, LFK, nipple licked and slow played a BBBJ and 69 until I asked for extras. Again she said its a secret but we got to cowgirl, miss, and doggy before CIM. Gave me another shower. Fun time with her was 67,000 yen.
Stopped by Strawberry Jam which is a small operation and quite cramped room. Mako didn't have room in the shower so I had to do it myself. She was slim and on the flat side but had a cute face she hid with her hair, didn't speak any English. BBBJ, 69 with FIV. 14,000 yen for a good time.
Visited Kira Kira in Yokohama, very easy to get to from the train station and depending on where you stay takes the same amount of time as going from one end of Tokyo to another. They have a little waiting room where I was presented with cards of three options, I picked Yuno (in retrospect its probably a good thing that the mouths are blurred bc her teeth weren't so great). Gave me a shower on the stool and took me to the tub where nothing was really happening so I started getting playful and handsy. Went to the bed, BBBJ, 69 with FIV, riding, mish, and doggy before finishing. Strangest part was as I was leaving all the employees had lined the entrance to thank me for coming (and cumming haha). 31,000 yen for 70 min.
Went to lovely hand (their stall is down the hall from Tokyo Hentai Club in the same building) and picked Natsu. One of their assistants walked me down the street to the love hotel where she showed up. Short, small tits, cute face. Took a shower then got a nude BBBJ. 15,000 for 20 min.
Wanted to visit Barubola but when I walked in they told me it was a 70 minute wait. They also said I couldn't make a reservation for the next day so I left and went back to Asian Feeling. Picked Rena who was a lot prettier than Honey. Same routine except when she got topless she laid herself down next to me so its easier to touch her. 17,000 yen (extra 1 k to pick masseuse).
Overall a gnarly experience but if you're traveling purely for fun a South American brothel or European FKK is the way to go- you walk in and get to sample the lineups, pay one time for exactly who you want and what you want to do with them, and don't have to move to some other love hotel a few blocks down.
It's illegal for girls to sell vaginal sex in Japan. Everything else is okay: HJ, BJ, anal (AF), intercrural sex (sumata). Just no vaginal sex.
The ONLY exception is at the soaplands. Why? Well at a soapland you are paying a girl to wash you. Anything else she does is just out of the goodness of her heart. In reality you get vaginal sex at every soapland in Japan. The problem there is that most soaplands (and most places in general) don't let foreigners in the door.
To repeat: soaplands are the only guaranteed legal place to get vaginal sex in Japan. Period.There is another exception besides soaplands: the restaurant associations (aka shinchis) in Osaka, such as Tobita, Matsushima, etc.
It's a similar kind of ridiculous loophole: you're not paying for sex, you're paying for an expensive tiny meal but there is a high probability (100%) that your sexy waitress will fall in love with you and want to immediately consummate your mutual desire.
How / where can I find actual sex in Tokyo? I don't speak Japanese and will only be transiting through, landing around 7 am Narita leaving 5 pm, which means I need to head back to airport around 1 or 2 pm. Any pointer is greatly appreciated.As discussed in the other replies, the simplest way to get actual sex, especially for a first time visitor, is to go to a soapland. If you scroll through these pages, you'll see several foreigner-friendly soaplands mentioned. Kira Kira in Yokohama and GFE Soapland in Kawasaki are two, for example, that are totally geared to foreigners. There are also many in the Yoshiwara soapland district in Tokyo proper.
The logistics of getting to these places after passing though immigration at Narita and then getting back again might be daunting, but it's possible. If you will take the initiative to scroll back a dozen or so pages, you will see that someone asked a similar question about having fun during a layover from Narita; there were a few responses. I suggested that it might be logistically simpler to go to a soapland in Chiba City, which is closer to Narita than Tokyo, Kawasaki, and Yokohama. There are a bunch of links for you to find if you scroll back to that conversation.
Kira Kira in Kawasaki opens at 6:00 am, as does Marina Blue Chiba. Probably others do too. If you're efficient with your time, you should be able to have a soapland experience at the destination of your choice and maybe grab a nice meal before heading back to Narita. Good luck, and if you actually do this, please report back here with as much detail as you can.
Traveler X
12-17-24, 03:40
There is another exception besides soaplands: the restaurant associations (aka shinchis) in Osaka, such as Tobita, Matsushima, etc.
It's a similar kind of ridiculous loophole: you're not paying for sex, you're paying for an expensive tiny meal but there is a high probability (100%) that your sexy waitress will fall in love with you and want to immediately consummate your mutual desire.Please stop reading if you don't want an explanation of Japanese law, I'm sure most people find it boring but a few people are genuinely curious. So, the Japanese law on prostitution (1956) is very lenient by Western standards. 7 parts:
1) First, only dick in pussy counts as prostitution. HJ, BJ, sumatra, anal for money are all fair game and they can advertise it. This is why no legit DH shop will advertise FS ever, they'll be shut down fast. It's also why some girls "offer anal" but you end up missing the hole because they'd rather have sex when the time comes. No one would know!
2) At soapland you should 100% get FS without paying any tip, of course if the girl sees you're a noob she could just run 70 minutes of nuru and say "time's up". But you can just ask her for sex and you'll get it. At soapland you pay for "time" and the male staff downstairs "don't know" what you guys do so don't even ask them.
3) It's actually legal to pay for sex from a person you already know, hence why at Tobita she serves you a snack to get "introduced" and likewise you can ask the soapland to girl to bang and she 100% will. It is ONLY illegal for a girl to offer sex to "just anyone" like a streetwalker. This is why at DH or soapland if you like a girl she'll give you her LINE to meet her a 2nd time without a middle man, and that's 100% legal. Just don't announce it for privacy reasons.
4) There is no punishment for Johns in Japan. Excepting if she's a minor. No soapland or DH is going to send you a minor because they don't want to get fucked, so cool. Win win.
5) Even though there is no punishment for Johns, there is punishment for a streetwalker or place advertising FS. So don't confuse the two, this is why no shop will advertise FS. Because that breaks the law of offering it to "just anyone". It is totally legal to offer sex for money to someone "you know", or to pay for a girl's time and she decides "on her own" to bang you. The exact wording of the law is offering sex to "unspecified persons" (I. E. Unacquainted people aka "just anyone"
6) Most important, Japan has no basis for probable cause, a police cannot investigate based on suspicion they must have a warrant first or personally witness it (aka witness a crime in progress). Therefore once the door is closed between you and the girl, no one will ever interfere. Same as how a strip club VIP works. The male staff don't know, and they don't want to know! Wink.
7) This law is barely enforced. Police will clamp down on streetwalkers since it's publicly embarrassing. And they have gone after FS shops that advertised too clearly, as well as a soapland operating without a license. The licensing angle is why DHs have exploded in popularity, most cities no longer issue new licenses. This is why soapland are clustered in very specific spots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_prostitution_in_modern_Japan
Tobita is cheap for a quick bang. When I hear people getting GPS prices at DH in Osaka, those girls can only do that because they assume you don't know about Tobita or are in love with them. You can normally get FS for 10 k or 20 k if the girl offers it, but every girl is different.
I'll post a few ads I got from a fetish shop featured in my "3 kidnapped schoolgirls"* story. Besides "kidnap" scenario they also have "3 girls suck you off preview", a totally different scenario depicted in cartoons. These are public advertisements plastered on the walls, 100% legal to advertise and perform. Note not one instance of FS is depicted. Even Manzoku had this all over their walls. Police patrols would walk by them like nothing, since after all they are legal.
* All schoolgirls 20 years of age and older no actual schoolgirl was harmed by Traveler X.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963832&viewfull=1#post2963832 I was stuck with 3 kidnapped schoolgirls.
See cartoon 1. The guy orders the "3 girls suck me off and I pick 1 to play with" course. It's real. When ordering the course, the staff says "Kashikomarimashita" which is equivalent to "wakarimasu" with the connotation of "I understand and am prepared to give you what you've asked". "Kochira" means this way. This way to your 4P. Next, you see A Ko sucking him off. The 3rd girl C-Ko is trying to outdo both girls before and make you pick her. He exclaims "I'm coming", so I bet this is the girl he picks.
Nope, he picks B-Ko after all. He tells the staff by intercom phone, nostrils flared. "B-Ko chan o onegaishimasu" loosely translates to "I'm need to get up in B-Ko's business asap". Next she is on her knees and washing your cock in her hand saying "Thanks for picking me". Don't know why, C-Ko was clearly deepthroating him earlier.
Japanese take cleanliness seriously and after showering she can suck, you can eat, she will ride you sumatra. If she does more than that for a tip, who knows! It is an illegal thing no advertisement will ever show, no matter how common or expected it is in a fully private situation that no one else could witness. Just like the VIP of a strip club.
Last panel shows that no matter how wild and naughty you were with her for the hour, she will always hug you lovingly and say thank your or please come again. It goes without saying that you cannot get this service in the USA. As illustrated, it is 100% legal in Japan so they can openly advertise it all. It is as legal as getting a cup of coffee in Japan, everyone just needs to be 18.
Notice not one of these cartoons depicts fs of dick inside pussy!
Hi Traveler X and other experienced.
Can I get a few recommendations for BJ shops? I prefer high end BJ shops with nice looking girls. Thanks for your advice!
Traveler X
12-20-24, 18:58
Hi Traveler X and other experienced.
Can I get a few recommendations for BJ shops? I prefer high end BJ shops with nice looking girls. Thanks for your advice!
By high end I assume you mean an emphasis on the girls? You may be best off with Delivery Health, which technically is focused on BJ anyways. You have the widest choice in girls. I'll list Gingira below, they have some excellent girls. They will go to your hotel or to a love hotel of your choice. Not every regular hotel allows guest visitors, so what you do is call Gingira and tell them you want a girl at X time and location, ideally with the love hotel you intend to use. Then when you get to the love hotel and check in, you call them again and let them know your room number. This also let's them call you back at your room to confirm, for the girls' safety. So if you book a 70 minute course, you want the love hotel at least 90 minutes if not 120 minutes, it's quite cheap (ex. some are 4000 yen or $26). You can get full sex with most DH girls by offering a tip, it's between you and the girl. I would offer 10k, some will take 20k. Occasionally there are GPS girls (Golden Pussy Syndrome) who will ask a lot more for whatever reason, I wouldn't but it's your decision.
Rick Rock has reviewed many DH shops. It is a tricky thing, but I hope to help reduce the GPS pricing that happens sometimes with first-timers where the girl sees you're a tourist and asks a higher tip than normal. I always say the tip I want to give first, no matter who brought up the subject. And I make it not a big deal, like I'm not even sure I want sex but I'm hard now anyways so "this is her chance" to make extra money but I don't need it. Most girls will take it on the spot, but no guarantee. Be the first to say a number. 10K is a $64 tip, even 20K is acceptable to most people.
Kira Kira Delivery Health
https://gingira.jp/gal.html Gingira girls, look for O next to International Customer
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira System
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/ Gingira English ad plus girls' media
https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/ Example of how to DH
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2956442#post2956442 Ichika Nagano did DH
More Links
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963634#post2963634 More photos of gingira girls
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2962479#post2962479 Gingira and Tora no Ana
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2959631#post2959631 Rick Rock visits Taitanic Yokohama
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2953656#post2953656 Rick Rock tries Casanova in Yoshiwara
On a girl's profile, you can see International Customer as a field, you want to see an O next to it. Triangle means maybe. Next, you can see her schedule. Or it's easier if you look at the whole shop schedule and pick that way. Gingira is photo accurate in my experience, it's why I mention it here. Girls do up their hair and make up for photos so it's them but they won't look exactly the same. But the girls I know were close enough to say it's accurate. Pictured are Sana, Seika, Kaname, and Ere. All foreigner okay.
Kira Kira Soapland
If you are truly first time and just want to see what soapland is like, Kira Kira in Yokohama has good service. From Shibuya it's easy access by train. You are expecting a decent looking girl, but not a stunner. At soap they will worship and obey you.
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira website English
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631 Kira Kira Yokohama first experience
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963459&viewfull=1#post2963459 Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Maps link to Kira Kira
I also include 5 ad photos for Kira Kira. They tend to use realistic ad photos, but keep in mind they take the photo from a good angle and hide the face, and she has full make up and hair. But it has always been the actual girl. Every girl I've seen at Kira Kira has been "just above average" in looks. For example Mona was cute face but a little chubby, small tits, but beautiful pussy. The best part of Kira Kira though is every single girl has worshipped me like god. That's why customers go for, whereas with Delivery Health guys are picking girls "for looks first" and the service second. KK is a reasonable price, no hidden feels you pay 31k for 70 minutes (about $199), every staff bows and thanks you on your way out KK does it right. I got exactly 70 minutes checking my watch, anything I wanted. I got nuru, bath together, a blowjob during nuru, a blowjob during bath (JAV style with me on her lap), then a blowjob and sex, then chat (Animal Crossing, Dr. Stone anime, Disneyland), then another blowjob and sex. I don't normally do this much, but Mona was pretty enthusiastic so I did. Another girl I'd probably do less if we don't vibe, but it's your time you decide.
Traveler X
12-21-24, 11:01
So over US $1,000? That is getting expensive.
I know this is a late reply but he was adding an extra 0 to different shops both Luxe and Soap. He paid $200 for DH not $2000 for example. $100 for Oppai pub including extension. I often confuse Japanese currency even after 20 years because in Japanese they count by 'Man' or 10,000 while we are used to thousands like 1,000. People add or subtract a zero all the time due to this convention. Same thing with oku, which is 100 million. When the conversion rate is close to 100 yen per dollar, "ichi oku en" ends up being 1 million dollars. A typical "lot of money" number thrown around in dramas.
$40,000 why for a covered BJ. Pass.
Same thing. 40,000 is 40k yen or about $260. Japan is quite cheap by US and European standards. Just to give people a ballpark idea, I'll list what people pay for some things in Japan.
Ballpark costs in Japan
1) 70 minutes of soapland at Kira Kira = 31k for 70 minutes (about $199). This is not just sex, but nuru, bjs, bath, fs, bj, fs. My max was 4 blowjobs and 2 sex in 70 mins, it's usually just 2 bjs and 1 fs. Good value.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965513#post2965513 Kira Kira links
2) 40 minutes of an oppai pub in Kabukicho, for 6000 to 8000 yen (depending on hours). So $38 to $51, up to you to buy drinks for ladies the basic drink isn't much. Remember, the price rises 50%-100% to extend, but worth doing if you find your ideal girl. Oppai pubs are pretty cheap in my opinion, I can hop 2-3 clubs a night, several nights, and barely spend anything. 3 clubs works out to about $135, so even if I buy every girl a drink that's $270 total to play with 9 young girls for 2 hours straight. US strip clubs cost way to get way less on average, even for just 1 girl.
3) 40 minute train ride from Shibya to Yokohama direct is 220 yen ($1.41). In Japan, use trains when possible. From the airport, use a "limousine bus" which is a luxury bus to get to major stations and certain hotels. Taxis for medium distances you can't walk or cover by train easily.
4) 1 order of Ichiran ramen is 980 yen ($6.26) which is way better than any $20 ramen you could get in the USA. Of course Ichiran ramen has branches in Hong Kong, Taipei, Taichung, and Brooklyn, New York. I believe it costs $22 in NYC just to give you an idea. Japan is obviously really good and cheap for Japanese food.
5) A typical budget hotel room in Japan hovers around 10K ($64). It is way better value than a typical US hotel, excepting the most expensive hot spots.
6) For sightseeing, you might expect 500-1000 for temple admission, or 500-2500 for a typical restaurant for a solid meal. I typically pay under 500 yen for a simple but delicious breakfast. Pronto will give you fantastic coffee as part of a set. 500 is $3.20.
Other people quoted:
A) 90 minutes deluxe massage with "professional" handjob 27K for 60 mins ($173). He actually repeated paying 40K for 90 mins, so I take his word it's special.
B) 4000 yen for blowjob by middle-aged plain woman at Jan Jan (about $26)
C) 2200 yen for a 20 minute peepshow (about $14). "not so bad", would not repeat but worth seeing for laughs and curiosity if you have time to kill.
D) 45,000 (45K) yen as "tip" to get sex from a GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) delivery health girl. That's $288, more than doubling the cost of DH. Do not pay this, it's tourist prices. Vast majority of DH girls take 10K or 20K ($64 or $128).
I'm going to be in Tokyo for about a week and this trip is supposed to be my sexual Odyssey. I'm going to be arriving full of cum and I want to leave having shot out my entire lineage.
If you are wiling to share your experience good or bad it will help others. No pressure, up to you. Hope you had a good time.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965391&viewfull=1#post2965391 PSA encouraging people to share intel
A few days later I decided to head into Kabukicho and spend some time at Luxe. I'd agree with Traveler X. Try this spot once, and then move on to actually fucking women. It was a cool experience, and I got quite drunk from all the free beer and this hot chick that made out with me.
Even the biggest DH fans will sometimes mention they went to an oppai pub long ago and it was fun "the first time". Most guys seem to focus on fs but this is an option. A minority of guys like me are all-in on oppai pubs and just go fs just occasionally.
https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/ Luxe website
https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/ Leicester, if you know some Japanese
https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com/ Hosekinobako, if you know some Japanese
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542 Oppai pub guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2959611&viewfull=1#post2959611 Oppai pub guide with links to 7 posts
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2966010&viewfull=1#post2966010 Oppai pub veteran tips
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964457&viewfull=1#post2964457 Be part of the 1%
Link to most of my Japan/Tokyo guides:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012 Traveler X guides
This is a PSA reminder: Do NOT talk or engage with any nigerian touts in Kabukicho, just walk past them and you are perfectly safe. This is the only rule! Roppongi has Nigerian staff for clubs, they're generally fine. This is just about the many black guys standing around Kabukicho trying to take you to their scam bar.
If you need an alibi, these are just ideas to get you started.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964777&viewfull=1#post2964777 Sakuragicho station
Your posts are some of the most helpful on the forum, Traveler x and much appreciated.
I have RTFF and you probably covered this before but I cannot find: my Tiktok shows Lots of really attractive girls street walkers girls hanging around for custom, lines of them. Is this a real thing? I like the idea of an amateur (like these seem). Is there anything we need to be wary of with them?
I know this is a late reply but he was adding an extra 0 to different shops both Luxe and Soap. He paid $200 for DH not $2000 for example. $100 for Oppai pub including extension. I often confuse Japanese currency even after 20 years because in Japanese they count by 'Man' or 10,000 while we are used to thousands like 1,000. People add or subtract a zero all the time due to this convention. Same thing with oku, which is 100 million. When the conversion rate is close to 100 yen per dollar, "ichi oku en" ends up being 1 million dollars. A typical "lot of money" number thrown around in dramas.
Same thing. 40,000 is 40k yen or about $260. Japan is quite cheap by US and European standards. Just to give people a ballpark idea, I'll list what people pay for some things in Japan.
Ballpark costs in Japan
1) 70 minutes of soapland at Kira Kira = 31k for 70 minutes (about $199). This is not just sex, but nuru, bjs, bath, fs, bj, fs. My max was 4 blowjobs and 2 sex in 70 mins, it's usually just 2 bjs and 1 fs. Good value.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965513#post2965513 Kira Kira links.
Traveler X
12-21-24, 19:20
Your posts are some of the most helpful on the forum, Traveler x and much appreciated.
I have RTFF and you probably covered this before but I cannot find: my Tiktok shows Lots of really attractive girls street walkers girls hanging around for custom, lines of them. Is this a real thing? I like the idea of an amateur (like these seem). Is there anything we need to be wary of with them?It's a waste of time getting news from Tiktok or similar formats. My 12 year old nephew makes them and lies. He's never been to Japan and just repeats what he read online plus a lot of his own mistakes.
See this Youtube short, it says "Homeless teenagers in Japan" but then shows you ladies holding up signs for a girl's bar. It's a low effort video full of random clips, a majority unrelated. It fools a lot of people, someone showed me this exact Youtube clip thinking they were prostitutes.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ON4xnYUVfGo YT shorts
2 screencaps attached. Anyone can read her sign in Japanese. It is for a bar and you get to drink with her and chat with her. I mean look at the other sign it literally says "Bar" in English for us gaijin. Now you know not to get your information from Youtube shorts. Because my nephew is lying to you. People who make these videos can't read Japanese, they can't even read English.
98% of girls standing around waiting for customers are not prostitutes. Girls bars are the most common, followed by maid cafes. It's not the norm for hostesses or oppai pub girls to do it for privacy and safety. If they hold a sign, that's the promo rate. Girls bars are super casual and "just chat", they are wholesome fun for guys who just want a cute girl to talk to no touching. It was fun my first time 20 years ago. I think I'd do it again if I walked past a girl I liked and vibed well with. I've mentioned before at the smaller girls bar the girls are the bartenders and there aren't even male staff to help them. Like a 1-4 girl operation with just a bar to serve 2-12 customers only. Cheaper than an oppai pub as long as you just drink beer or whatever is on special. Even women can go, but of course it is usually a lonely guy or two maybe on a business trip.
I'm just talking Japanese girls of course. If you see a Chinese girl call out "massagu" then while she is also not a prostitute, maybe 25% of them will also offer you a handjob. 100% legal btw, just most of them won't do it. The girl can still give you a massage and find her friend who is willing to do it. Likewise a thai girl may be a prostitute, there is scant intel so just going by my own two eyes I saw them hanging around love hotels. I'm just not interested in them but others may be. It is of course better to go to Thailand for Thai girls but I understand many guys are in Japan anyways and want some adventure so I mention it. Lastly if you see a newhalf I would imagine the person is a streetwalker. If you don't know what newhalf is, don't look it up and stay innocent. Have a nice day.
Attached 2 photos from the YT short example. Next are 2 photos of girl's bar girls. Three girls are standing outdoors with signs hanging around their necks like they are for sale. If I had to choose 2 girls, I'd choose the one on the right twice. Another shows a bar where all the bartenders have their faces covered, but that is just a teaser for marketing. If you show up and meet them, you can get a polaroid with them. So actual customers can take pictures with them no problem, most guys ask at the very end before leaving.
The good thing about girl's bars is when it is early hours (6 pm-9 pm) the night is just getting started and things are slow, so lots of girls are outside depending on the day. If you meet a girl you like, you pick her to go to her bar. It's a way to make sure you like and get along with the girl you start with. In Osaka I did this 20 years ago, and the girl chatted with me 30 minutes and I would get a 2nd random girl for the next 30, but I liked her so paid to keep her. It was something like 2000 yen to enter, 800 yen to keep and extend her. 2800 yen is $18 for an hour "date" with a girl. This was 20 years ago in Osaka, so it's going to be more today and especially if it's a downtown area in Shinjuku. But in other cities it's still cheap. I think if language isn't an issue you can try it once for fun. You don't need a lot of Japanese, but some. I really liked the girl I met, I would have paid way more for the experience since I still remember her 20 years later. Can't be said of a lot of girls, just the special 5% to 10%.
Next is a photo of a bunch of muscular women for a bar staffed by super muscular women. It's basically a themed girl's bar. You can think of a girl's bar as a "maid cafe at a bar". There are literally girl's bars staffed by maids, but no one calls it a maid cafe anymore since the focus is on alcohol rather than food. Obviously a lot of overlap though. So in a way, if a Hooter's in the US doesn't serve alcohol, by Japanese standards it would be "a US-themed maid cafe". The lines are always blurred in Japan once fetish and themes are involved.
Next is a photo of a nice soapland room. This is proper soapland, a place that doesn't have nuru and a room for it is just "imitation soapland". One reason I recommend Kira Kira is it's focused on service first. The girl is decent, the room is decent but small. You get good value for "above average". The Kira Kira room is maybe 2/3 the size of the example posted, but also budget priced. Last photo is a full shower room with chair in Los Angeles for nuru, set up by kgirl Lucky. I'm sure it's fun, but it's not half what soapland can offer. Certainly we are going "for the girl" but this is what I mean by Thailand and the US having imitations of Japan, but you go to Japan for the full experience.
I prefer to stick with shops mainly staffed by Japanese girls, targeting Japanese locals. This rules out the tourist traps. Not sure about shops that are "foreigners only", there is success but also some hit and miss and GPS pricing "for tourists". And the quality is typically a step lower. For example I completely recommend Luxe for anyone who hasn't tried oppai pubs, but Hosekinobako and Leicester are simply better if you can speak Japanese. It's not a big gap but the gap is evident. But all are worth going and I will make my rounds through Luxe to take advantage of the "first time" promo rate then bar hop rather than extend unless I find a great girl. Extending always costs more, it's how they make the real money and fair enough if you are 100% happy with the girl.
Hello, first post here.
I will have an up coming trip to SEA next summer. Planned to stopover in Tokyo for 5 days and travel in Japan a week after.
I'm an asian and know asian culture very well but my Japanese are very limit. Understand of some easy words. Can understand word but not a long sentense. (now I'm study Japan and hope at least I can talk to them).
Plan is not concrete so still not sure if I should go and stop at Dubai or Tokyo. Have hobby in DC area and have to tell that the quality of J-girls that come here are dramasticly drop from 2022-2023.
Want to experiance the Jgirls in local and seem like if you know some Japanese you will have a great time.
On the other hand wonder what Dubai can offer. Want to sampling EE girls that very hard to find and costly in the US.
Check THC and seem like I would go at least 90 m or 110 m but CFS is a must for me.
Have some questions. At their shop (THC) do we see the actual girl and choose or just her pics? Can we go pickup the girl from the shop and walk to hotel that I stay?
Also, if someone has an experiance in Dubai please chim in. It was about 90% Tokyo for me but we never know cause sometime we settle with 10%.
Ok, I just understand their procedure.
For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.
Wondering if my hotel are very close? (about 5 minutes from their building) can we go to my hotel?
Can we refuse the girl after seeing her? Like she doesn't look like her pic?
Anyway, want to try Japan love hotel once so I might go for incall on my first time.
Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.
Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.
Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.
Ok, I just understand their procedure.
For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.
Wondering if my hotel are very close? (about 5 minutes from their building) can we go to my hotel?
Can we refuse the girl after seeing her? Like she doesn't look like her pic?
Anyway, want to try Japan love hotel once so I might go for incall on my first time.
Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.
Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.
Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.The Love Hotels near THC are very close. 5 minutes. You can't refuse the provider because it's prepaid. Promoting vaginal sex is illegal, but most THC girls will offer it in the love hotel. Just be clean and respectful.
Traveler X
12-24-24, 00:09
Ok, I just understand their procedure.
For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.
Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.
Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.
Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.Yes, Japanese language helps, I first went with 3 months Japanese and had no problem sightseeing - just trouble getting in to shops. That's why we are highlighting shops that are friendly to English speakers, whether oppai pubs, soapland, or delivery health. Chinese and Korean are welcomed at most of the places that take English. At Luxe, half their staff were native English speakers. About 2 years of Japanese is where I gained a lot of benefit, it was a lot of fun and I went Japan 20 times. Japan is very good for tourists, a lot of people helped me when they didn't have to. I tried to do my best for others in turn.
The distance to your hotel doesn't matter at all. You just need to know if your hotel allows guests. It will be obvious when you check in and try to go to your room. Some hotels require a room key to operate the elevator, after tapping an IC spot on the elevator. Others don't and you can freely use them. But of course if your hotel doesn't work, you can just use a love hotel and enjoy it.
As for refusing the girl, it just really depends on the shop. I look at the situation totally backwards, I only use a shop that is good and sends girls that match their pic. About photos, for example at KK soapland the girl is always the same as her pic but they take the photo at a good angle. But I don't mind, I will judge her by her service anyways. With Delivery Health, guys care more about looks, so if there is a face shot you expect it to match the girl you picked. You have to settle this how you think right. If the girl you get is good looking, of course you wave her in anyways. But if you think there's a problem, say you expected a certain girl so there must be some mistake. Girls sometimes change their appearance so do check and make sure. I think ultimately if you use a "good shop" this won't happen in the first place. Any normal good shop wants you to be happy and keep using them.
If you are from NOVA, you may know that a few popular girls who toured there also work at DH shops in Tokyo. It's one reason I know certain shops are "very photo accurate", even though I haven't used the shop itself yet. But I saw their girl already. I once posted that one girl was a 9 and had two NOVA guys immediately correct me that she's a 10 LOL. Video ads tend to be "photo accurate" as well and some DH shops have them.
Glad you had a fun time. Japan is very safe as long as you never follow a nigerian / black tout in Kabukicho to their scam bar. I would avoid the Chinese / Korean / White touts as well, it's just a waste of money. Go to Manzoku or a shop you already know about.
There are so many types of shops in Japan. There was a "sexy cabaret" called Super Angel where the girls do line up and you call the one you like over, it is otherwise like an oppai pub. However most girls were not Japanese. I did not quite mind, I would like to go again if there weren't so many other great choices especially staffed by Japanese girls. I highly recommend the Manzoku shop in Kabukicho where you can just tell them "I speak a little Japanese, what shops can I go" and they will 100% confirm with the shop if you can enter or not as your broker. Used them 20 years, they get you the best promo rate anyways. Look for my Manzoku post on how to get there and how they work among the guides here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012 Various Japan guides
Good luck!
The distance to your hotel doesn't matter at all. You just need to know if your hotel allows guests. It will be obvious when you check in and try to go to your room. Some hotels require a room key to operate the elevator, after tapping an IC spot on the elevator. Others don't and you can freely use them. But of course if your hotel doesn't work, you can just use a love hotel and enjoy it.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012 Various Japan guides
Good luck!Is that possible to use my place for incall? Not outcall cause I might stay very near by THC (2-8 minutes walk). Think that I will walk in together with a guest and pay for 2 persons stay on my trip.
Do the hotel really care if I bring in different girls day after day? I personally won't mind for clamp space and mostly won't pay much for a place to sleep. I will go outside almost all the time any way.
Agreed that Japan is very easy to travel. Travel over there two times with almost zero of my Japanese and still have a great time. I understand it will much more better if you can communicate with the the local. I can read Hiragana, Katagana and some kanji. I will do my best to learn so hopefully I can talk Japanese at least a primary school level.
Did you talk about Elsa? I think I saw her pics in a Japan shop too. Elsa good if she's available I might give her a visit LOL.
Also, I planned to stay in Shinjuku for 5 days. I looked at Shibuya and Shinjuku hotel and saw Shibuya has a significant higher rate. So, decided to stay in Shinjuku. Also, I can walk around explore lot of things and never to worry about the last train.
Right now I planned to visit Gingira, THC, TAE in Shibuya and Luxe oppai club. Yokohama also in my travel list. Want to visit ramen museum & cup noodle museum over there might try Kira Kira on the way back to Tokyo if I haven't success with those three earlier.
There aren't that many reports about Pink Salons, and the ones there are (eg Jan Jan) suggest these are few and far between now.
This appears to be countered by the following: https://mysecretjapan.com/tokyo-pink-salons/.
Not sure how accurate it is but it does seem quite recent so happy to hear feedback.
BlackEngine44
12-24-24, 17:04
Also, if someone has an experiance in Dubai please chim in. It was about 90% Tokyo for me but we never know cause sometime we settle with 10%.If you want a pretty EE girl in Dubai, costs:
1000 aed girl (minimum) + 200 club entrance + 300 hotel room = 1500 aed or 400 usd for 1 HR.
For Japan, using DH:
27 k yen + 10 k FS tip + 5 k hotel = 42 k yen or 267 usd for 1 HR.
Pros / Cons:
- Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.
- So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.
- You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.
Traveler X
12-24-24, 19:59
Is that possible to use my place for incall? Not outcall cause I might stay very near by THC (2-8 minutes walk). Think that I will walk in together with a guest and pay for 2 persons stay on my trip.
Do the hotel really care if I bring in different girls day after day? I personally won't mind for clamp space and mostly won't pay much for a place to sleep. I will go outside almost all the time any way.
Agreed that Japan is very easy to travel. Travel over there two times with almost zero of my Japanese and still have a great time. I understand it will much more better if you can communicate with the the local. I can read Hiragana, Katagana and some kanji. I will do my best to learn so hopefully I can talk Japanese at least a primary school level.
Did you talk about Elsa? I think I saw her pics in a Japan shop too. Elsa good if she's available I might give her a visit LOL.
Also, I planned to stay in Shinjuku for 5 days. I looked at Shibuya and Shinjuku hotel and saw Shibuya has a significant higher rate. So, decided to stay in Shinjuku. Also, I can walk around explore lot of things and never to worry about the last train.
About taking a girl to your hotel manually, it's certainly possible. Be discreet and it should be easy. I even did it at the strictest hotel possible where it's not allowed. See my story about the time I missed out on North Korean pussy.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2951357&highlight=korean#post2951357 Picking up civilian girls, North Korean pussy
At that time I had taken 3 years of HS Chinese and about 2 years Japanese. 1-3 years of either language goes a really long way if you get creative. And Hiragana, Katakana, some Kanji alone will take you far. It will even help you learn Japanese without even meaning to, like when you're on the train trying to see which station it is and how many stops to where you're going. I memorized a ton of stations this way, and started noticing certain words and phrases repeating on signs that I now know. Learning some conversational Japanese will make things really fun, at first it meant being able to talk with a lot of people. Later I realized I could flirt with Japanese women at oppai pubs. A reminder you can bang 1 girl or flirt with 9 for about the same cost. I do some of both.
You know who I mean but I don't want to single out girls since every guy has his type and also to be respectful. Everything is between you and the girl. When we have a good time, more girls will turn those triangles into circles. There are so many choices and several guys who tried two or three girls ended up finding a new girl they really liked. It's the ultimate gacha game and I hope we can improve everyone's odds with intel. Especially with DH you need to negotiate for fs. The one tip I give is to be the first to say a number, I would start with 10k first since many girls take it. Even 20k is not much. And I always make it as "just an idea" since we played and I'm hard and ready anyways. I'm prepared not to do it, and I think this helps sell it since most girls will take what they can get. A reminder that soapland works different, you can just ask the girl without tip ever.
The last train point is true, Shinjuku is open late but various things do start to close after midnight. In Kabukicho is important not to follow foreign touts (black, Chinese, Korean, white), they will take you to a non-Japanese shop that sucks. This is a particular problem with Kabukicho, everywhere else in Japan most touts were Japanese staff working for legit Japanese shops.
Your order of shops makes sense since you are focused on fs. I would just suggest that Luxe and Kira Kira offer a totally different experience if you can squeeze it in. A lot of die-hard delivery health guys still have fond memories of the first time they went to an oppai pub even though they don't repeat since they want sex.
If you go cup museum, it's across the street from World Porters. Food and shopping, a small arcade, a family friendly animal place to touch adorable animals (Ani Touch). There is a gondola connecting World Porters and Sakuragicho but that is for sightseeing, obviously taxi is faster. Sakuragicho has a lot more food, Yokohama station has Sogo department store for shopping and food (basement for casual, top floor for dining). It is maybe 13 minutes to walk from Kira Kira to Sakuragicho station, you are walking past the night district where bars will open later.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.
This is a great summary of the pros and cons. No need to fly to Japan if you are closer to Dubai or dislike working around the language barrier. Or, if you really like Japanese girls, obviously Japan is full of them. Distance is also a factor, lots of people from Korea, China, and Taiwan choose Japan because it is fast and cheap to get to. Enough for a few days break from girlfriends and work.
There aren't that many reports about Pink Salons, and the ones there are (eg Jan Jan) suggest these are few and far between now.
This appears to be countered by the following: https://mysecretjapan.com/tokyo-pink-salons/.
Not sure how accurate it is but it does seem quite recent so happy to hear feedback.
I've skimmed their other guides and they cover things in good detail. I've been thinking on a simpler explanation of Japanese law about paying for sex with "unspecified persons". I often watch Japanese TV and there are NHK documentaries on hostess clubs where the hostess will say on camera "Yes I sometimes sleep with clients". 100% legal. She could even go further and say "I sleep with them for money". 100% legal. She could even name the price except that would make some of her fans butthurt since they don't all pay the same. It's legal is because the Japanese law is only against "unspecified persons" aka people you don't already know. So it is only illegal to offer sex for money "to strangers". And the wording is to the extent that even a flimsly excuse like Tobita (girl serves you a snack and chats with you before sex) is enough. And true enough, if you walk around Tobita the girls may nod their head in approval saying they approve of you. They are free to refuse anyone they don't like, and occasionally will. Now given that these are thin excuses, people don't push the boundaries and act discreet. Hope this helps.
Blast from the past
Tobita reminds me of Koganecho glass houses. Here is a post I made about it over 20 years ago:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=291141&highlight=koganecho#post291141 Traveler X 2004
Koganecho no longer exists, but like how Yoshiwara is filled with soapland Koganecho was filled with small glass houses you could look into. You could see a woman in each one, and if they like you they'll nod to you and if you like them you go inside. Give them 1 man en ($64) to bang. I think I saw about 20 girls there. Though one night I saw the same Thai girl 3 times. Unlike Tobita it was mostly Chinese girls, some Thai, some Japanese, some white. I learned there that the hottest girls often give the lowest service. There was one girl who was leagues better looking than most other girls, but you see she was nonstop busy because it was so obvious how good looking she was. So her window blinds were always down as she was with someone. So I couldn't see her, but next time on a rainy day I checked and finally she was free. She was as hot as I imagined, fantastic tits too, but her attitude wasn't good. However she was so hot, I didn't even care! It was a good lesson.
There was another Chinese girl I saw and things were going really great, she was hot and we were having fun, she was enjoying it. She loved my dick, quite refreshing. But suddenly she said something maybe 15 minutes in, I couldn't understand her Japanese. In hindsight she was probably telling me to finish soon. I couldn't finish anyways, so she told me we had to stop. I didn't understand, but I got up and cooperated. She told me I had to leave, and handed me half my money back saying "It was really fun for me too, so just go" Damn, she is here to make money not love. It was a good lesson.
About the adult party mentioned, these were korgs in Japan. All in Shin Okubo, basically Koreatown. The shop I went to the most had 3 to 4 girls usually, but others had more. You hang around and watch tv with Korean girls while chatting with them until you picked one. Most were early 20s and active college students. The rates varied between shops and the year but I remember one time paying 22000 yen for 2 girls ($140), and other times paying 28000 yen for 3 girls ($180). The 3 girl rate was literally cheaper than TJ, and the girls way better. The majority HYA by today's standard. The Korean exchange rate at the time was really distorted at this time. The same way jgirls now go to the US, kgirls were going to Japan. Many years later, I discovered korgs had spread to the US too.
I mention I met a Korean Zhang Zi Yi. The first time I met her, she was checking me out before I even sat down in the room (it was raining and I was taking care of my umbrella and pants in the hallway). So it was a given I would take her before we spoke any words to each other. She flirted with me with her lips and eyes to signal me to take her, we barely spoke any words. Upstairs there is a full room, plus another bigger room but divided into several cubicles. We were lucky to get the full room and it was hot and wonderful with her. I had just landed in Japan the day before, what a way to enter paradise. Unlike every other girl she didn't want to suck cock very long but she was exactly my type so I didn't even care. As we finished and chatted briefly, she asked if I liked her since I obviously did. So I said yes. She told me then I had to pick her again. WTF. She even got on top of me and said if you don't..and choked me playfully but I could tell with those wild Korean eyes, she meant it. It would be another 20 years before I would get those same wild Korean eyes of jealous love again. Back downstairs, of course I have another ticket left for my second girl. It was on my mind, I was a bit subdued and even if the other girl chatted with me I didn't say much back. At this party, if another Japanese customer comes in to join he might pick your girl. So I picked her again. Then took her out on a date.
I was the only non-Japanese customer until a 3rd friend was invited by Sailing. The korg is for Japanese customers only for safety, but they can bring a guest they vouch for. They screen customers the same way korgs in the US do. So obviously, most of the time other Japanese customers come and go and join us in the living room. If there is a girl you like, you're free to chat with her. Find out about her major or what she likes. How old she is, compliment her. One time it was the Japanese customer who was chatting it up with one of these Korean girls. They all speak Japanese (much better than me). He was really having a fun time, treating it like a hostess club all smiles and laughs. But I notice he just talks to her, doesn't pick her and take her up. She's the girl I want. However I'm not going to take her from under him if he's talking to her. So the moment he stops talking to her for a few minutes, then looks at what's on the TV, it's fair game. I tell her, "Let's go up". She's happy to. We bang happily. Lots of naughty tongue play too. For him, it was a good lesson.
Hadaka no Ousama is explained at the very end of this post
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666&highlight=hadaka#post2946666 Types of shops in Japan
If you want a pretty EE girl in Dubai, costs:
1000 aed girl (minimum) + 200 club entrance + 300 hotel room = 1500 aed or 400 usd for 1 HR.
For Japan, using DH:
27 k yen + 10 k FS tip + 5 k hotel = 42 k yen or 267 usd for 1 HR.
Pros / Cons:
- Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.
- So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.
- You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.Thank you. I'm not a clubs / bars person. So, for me it takes more energy and time consuming.
That's why I want to go in the shop first and pick them from unfiltered pictures.
Both have con and pro. Can't find pretty EE girls that rate $400 / HR here. Well after some org got busted years ago.
This is a great summary of the pros and cons. No need to fly to Japan if you are closer to Dubai or dislike working around the language barrier. Or, if you really like Japanese girls, obviously Japan is full of them. Distance is also a factor, lots of people from Korea, China, and Taiwan choose Japan because it is fast and cheap to get to. Enough for a few days break from girlfriends and work.Well, actually both are equally same distance for me. I also want to learn Japanese for a long time anyway. Honestly, I love Japanese girls. They cute / young and their attitude is IMO better than other ethics. That's why I said 90% Tokyo but It's still not a close deal until I book a ticket.
4) There is no punishment for Johns in Japan. Excepting if she's a minor. No soapland or DH is going to send you a minor because they don't want to get fucked, so cool. Win win.
Below what age is "minor"?
Age of Consent vs Age of Majority
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The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory rape.
However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.
What you need to focus on is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.
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- Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.
- So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.
- You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.
- Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.
- Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.I understand DH is delivery health service. May I ask what does SL mean?
Below what age is "minor"?Under 18 in Japan.
Captain Solo
12-25-24, 18:40
DH Delivery health.
SL SoapLand.
Traveler X
12-25-24, 18:41
Below what age is "minor"?It is 18 in Japan. There are multiple overlapping laws, including the The Child Prostitution and Pornography Act (1999) as well as the corruption of minors law. Another recent change has lowered the age of adulthood from 20 to 18, which doesn't affect the industry much except allow for 18 year old porn stars like the rest of the world. Previously, 18 and 19 year olds could not sign contracts or do work without parental permission. Likewise, shops now feature a few 18 and 19 year olds (it is just super rare for a 19 year old to get her parents' permission to work DH or star in porn). One of my ATFs started at 19. Same with maid cafes, girls bars, hostess clubs, oppai pubs. In any case no normal shop would send you an underage girl, since they would be in just as much trouble too.
This is where police focus their efforts, as well as streetwalkers that cause public embarrassment. When I say Japan is lax on prostitution, for example Japan arrested 270 prostitutes in 2023. In the US for the same period, it is closer to 70,000. The reason being Japan focuses on cleaning up streetwalkers who gather and embarrass the public. Even against streetwalkers they are quite lenient, attempting to offer counseling and assistance most of the time.
Excepting streetwalkers, prostitution between consenting adults in Japan works the same as pachinco. Effectively legal due to the legal system's lenient rules. Soapland and delivery health are "prostitution with an extra step", the same way pachinco is "gambling with an extra step". It is completely legal to pay for sex with someone you know or to pay for anal sex and then miss the hole, and it is completely legal to bet money on metal balls which are then laundered into actual money again. In Japan, that's all that's needed.
Note that the legal age of drinking alochol is 20. But an 18 year old can serve alcohol even if they can't drink it. That gap is actually not unusual, it's the same in the US where an 18 year old can sell or serve alcohol even though they can't drink. But in practice this is a limitation on hostess clubs and oppai pubs since guys expect the girl to drink alcohol with them. But some 19 year olds will apologize and if they're cute we all forgive them of course. It sucks to be an ugly girl in this world.
Speaking no Japanese put me a a huge disadvantage in Japan. So many touts that must be avoided at all costs. Massage parlours have a high chance of delivering HR but that wasn't what I was after. Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best area, I entered some of the brightly lit "entertainment" shops but got nowhere due to language barrier and a feeling that I might get ripped off.
So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.
The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (£25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.
Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.
Traveler X
12-27-24, 22:40
The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.
Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.Wonderful, we don't have enough reports on massage shops. Just want to point out there is an extra 0 in the prices. So you listed 50,000 yen for 25 pounds but of course it was 5,000 yen for 25 pounds. Lucky you, years ago it would have been 40 pounds. No doubt compared to back home, the girls are much better with better service on average. As you say, always avoid all those touts in Kabukicho. I would say that even with zero Japanese, you can still try the Manzoku shop there's no harm in asking. They will 100% know which shops you can get into. I've used them 20 years to refer me to shops, although at first I could only get into oppai pubs. They will call each shop and confirm if they will let you in. That call is the green light, it even helps when a shop is totally full and won't let me in (or any Japanese customer), as well as in the off chance things are so slow they'll take me even if they normally wouldn't.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461 How to get into Manzoku.
This is a very common thing with Japan, Korea, and China which count by 10,000 instead of 1,000. Locals get confused when you say "ten thousand" since they've never heard of the number. They always say man (Japanese, Korean), or wan (Chinese). They always count money in units of 10,000 (man en) when it goes above that number:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2969659&viewfull=1#post2969659 The price of things in Japan.
For anything Japanese (sushi, trains, Japanese women), it's cheap in Japan. Different cities and places have their specialty too. No surprise that many massage shops offer Chinese and Thai girls. I don't know much about massage but every massage place was staffed by them. I mainly did this in Nagoya where you could get massage with light touching or a hj. There is a very tricky paradox - hj and bj are 100% legal so in Nagoya I could straight up ask the girl for them. But if a girl or shop also offers fs, then suddenly nobody wants to talk about "what happens". And the girls who were offering hj or bj in Nagoya were doing them out of an apartment (not paying taxes or licensed to run a shop), so it wasn't the sex that was the problem but their shop was "underground" off the radar. These days I completely avoid non-Japanese shops, I just don't want to take my chances. But sharing intel is always good.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
For those new, any shop that offers shower is a big plus. Whether soapland, delivery health to a love hotel (where you shower there), or a better massage place like the one you found. Two showers is the gold standard. It is the defining characteristic of korgs in the USA.
It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street.
Unfortunately, no name from the shop. I had the same problem when I started, no way to remember a shop name in a language I couldn't speak. So one tip is if you just ask them for a business card or anything, they will probably have it. Listing phone number, address, even a mini map. Japan is old school like this, very paper driven still with business cards and printed ads and pamphlets. Good luck!
Hey I'm going to be in town. I'm visiting for a week for the first time solo. Any recs or people that want to hang out?
Speaking no Japanese put me a a huge disadvantage in Japan. So many touts that must be avoided at all costs. Massage parlours have a high chance of delivering HR but that wasn't what I was after. Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best area, I entered some of the brightly lit "entertainment" shops but got nowhere due to language barrier and a feeling that I might get ripped off.
So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.
The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.
It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.
Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.May I ask. Was those shop a Japanese girl or Asian girl?
Yeah. Not cheap but you had a great time which much more important.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...61#post2963461 How to get into Manzoku.Will absolutely go to Manzoku shop and ask them for recommend (osusume).
Also, how much for Manzoku services? I guess it should not more than a 10,000 (man) yen. 5,000 (go sen) yen?
Traveler X
12-28-24, 07:13
May I ask. Was those shop a Japanese girl or Asian girl?
Yeah. Not cheap but you had a great time which much more important.
Will absolutely go to Manzoku shop and ask them for recommend (osusume).
Also, how much for Manzoku services? I guess it should not more than a 10,000 (man) yen. 5,000 (go sen) yen?
Manzoku is 100% free. If anything, you will get a discount going through Manzoku normally. It is really different from how things are done in other countries, due to intense competition.
See the Manzoku link for an explanation, you are basically paying LESS if you use Manzoku since you are getting a "first timer" promo". In the case of oppai pubs, Luxe, Hosekibako, and Leicester price match EACH OTHER if you go through Manzoku. They want to get you in their door that bad, so you can fall in love with one girl and keep coming back. So it is 6000 yen or 8000 yen (depending on day / hour) for all 3, even though they normally each have a different price. That is what competition does. Copied from Manzoku post:
Also, Manzoku will get you the best rate by far because it is so competitive. Luxe for example is officially 13k cover charge, don't ever pay it. If I go to Manzoku then it is 6k or 8k "newbie special promo rate", $52. Try kissing three US strippers for $52 total. Note that every oppai pub offers the exact same promo rate because of competition. Imagine if McDonald's, Burger King, and Carl's Junior all offered you their most popular burger for the exact same price of $2.50 as a first time customer. All you do is show up to a 'burger consultant' who walks you to the nearest shop, then the shop gives them back $.50 for the referral. But the burger is really $5 normally. That's how weird it is.
Obviously Luxe will give promo rates far lower than 13k if you just walk up and ask "Is there a promo rate" or point to an online coupon from their website. They want you in the door. But if you fall in love with a girl you meet and want to extend, then it might become 13k. You see how their business model works.
Manzoku will make sure staff will escort you straight to the shop. If it's close like Luxe, the Manzoku staff walks me there (1 minute, you can literally see it). If it's far like Hosekinobako, their staff will come over and pick you up but it's like 6 minutes and the guy is out of breath because it's far. It turns out the better clubs are further out because a:) The rent is cheaper b) They rely on repeat customers who know better c) They are not tourist traps.
Excerpted from:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2963461#post2963461
But you see, all that long explanation I just gave you could be skipped if you either: a) just go to Manzoku in the first place b) Go to an oppai pub's website and snapshot or print out their coupon. Manzoku is often actually cheaper than the shops own promo! I'm no expert on pricing because I literally still use Manzoku despite speaking fluent Japanese now, so I don't know pay attention to the shop's official pricing. But whenever there's a line at the shop, I see their price list and I'm a bit surprised. Then I look up their ad on yoasobi and see that there's a coupon but it's not even as good as Manzoku. But keep in mind the price goes UP as the night gets late. Never go 10pm or later because there's a chance the club is full, not to mention you pay more. And I feel like the chance that a better girl is stuck on some guy's lap is higher
If you show up "too early" like 6pm or 8pm, you have the reverse problem. The shop is empty and might not be open. The girls still haven't shown up (if they do, they need 20-40 minutes to get ready). So they will apologize that you need to wait 10-40 minutes. You will get free beer, maybe snacks. I've had this happen occasionally, I'd rather be "too early" than "too late". Note that in this case, it does NOT count towards your 40 minutes of fun. They will remind you of this, but in case you don't understand don't worry. Relax and don't worry, lots of girls show up later. I can only speak for myself, but I wear a watch and they have always given me 40 minutes. I'm sure mistakes can happen, but it isn't common in Japan. I will say you are supposed to get 3 girls however "3 girls" is not actually guaranteed, others have said they might get 2 girls. I've never had that happen, but I'm sure it can happen.
Hey I'm going to be in town. I'm visiting for a week for the first time solo. Any recs or people that want to hang out?
If you just want an introductory summary to Japan:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2946666#post2946666 Introduction to Japan
The next guide is more detailed and you have to research and decide for yourself. This is what I would have recommended to myself even with zero Japanese - and in this order:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health&p=2966012&viewfull=1#post2966012 Oppai pubs, soapland, Delivery Health
I think most people are good people but it's my personal policy that I help people here in public on the forums. I prefer to do everything solo myself. If you go to Roppongi on Friday or Saturday night, you can meet a lot of people. Maybe I was lucky but even at the club scene it is safer than pretty much any other country in the world, relatively speaking. The ONLY rule I implore people to follow is to never talk to any black/nigerian tout in Kabukicho, or any other tout in Kabukicho for that matter whether Chinese, Korean, or White. In every other Japanese city the touts are mostly Japanese because there are so few tourists in the RLD. But in Kabukicho there are many tourist traps targeting foreigners and even Japanese who are just new to Tokyo. Either research your shop before you reach Shinjuku, or use Manzoku.
I went to Japan this year and did ZERO research on Shinjuku, I just popped into Manzoku and asked what oppai pubs were open. Because I already know I'm going to go to ALL of them, one after the other. Both Luxe and Leicester are new and I never heard of them. If you see my old post showing dozens of girls' cards every single one of those shops closed by the time of COVID. So I can only speak from my own experience, I don't look for fs in Shinjuku. Each district has its own specialty, and oppai pubs and hostess clubs are Shinjuku's domain.
Japan is extremely safe excepting Kabukicho and a similar area in Osaka. And if you ignore every tout offering to take you to their tourist trap shop, you're safe even in Kabukicho. Best to be done with your business by 1am though, things start closing fast after that. If your hotel is not in Shinjuku beware many train lines start closing at 12pm. It's almost luck if your train still operates or not, when my hotel was 40 minutes away the very last train was 11:30pm since I needed to connect to a 12:05am train.
Speaking of Manzoku, I assume we can stop by any Manzoku, right?
Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best areaIt's actually the worst area.
Miss MaryHinge
12-30-24, 12:43
Considering trying out this for an upcoming trip. Used successfully in Thailand previously.
I see a lot of girls' rates around 28000 Y for an hour with unlimited shots. Has anyone here experience with the unlimited shots in such listings? Are BJ covered? Imagine FS is.
Traveler X
12-31-24, 04:29
Speaking of Manzoku, I assume we can stop by any Manzoku, right?
Yes. The one I put on google maps happens to be central and large (more staff, lots of posters to look at). But I did drop by the 2nd Manzoku next to Super Angel a different day. They can take you to any shop they know about, even if they don't have a poster up for them.
This is the google maps link to the central Manzoku. Notice there is a Don Quijote and Family Mart. So what I do is walk past DQ, turn left, walk past Family Mart. You can even ask anyone 'where is family mart (there are two), but never talk to the black/nigerian touts or other non-Japanese touts they will immediately sell you on their scam shop or tourist trap where it's a waste of money. You are perfectly good if you refuse to engage with them, they don't cause trouble in public.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4vEKi3hVGiZRUZv3A Manzoku Shinjuku
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2971377&viewfull=1#post2971377 Manzoku
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2967038&highlight=manzoku#post2967038 Manzoku
Considering trying out this for an upcoming trip. Used successfully in Thailand previously.
I see a lot of girls' rates around 28000 Y for an hour with unlimited shots. Has anyone here experience with the unlimited shots in such listings? Are BJ covered? Imagine FS is.
For FS (full sex) in Japan, there is a big difference betweeen soapland and delivery health. At soapland FS is always included without tip, just ask. At DH you can expect it but you need to negotiate with the girl, offer her 10k or 20k no guarantees but you will usually get it. At FS, I have always gotten two-shot when I ask but I usually just go for one. If you see my first visit to Kira Kira, I got 4 bjs and 2 fs with nuru and bathtub play, plus a pleasant chat. But with my 2nd girl I wasn't feeling it and did less. You are paying for time and with a good soapland shop the girl is going to take care of you. It's why I recommend Kira Kira for beginners because their focus is on service and their girls are consistent on that. They are competing with other girls at the shop and a girl they won't keep a girl unless she does.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?978-Yokohama&p=2963631&viewfull=1#post2963631 Kira Kira 1st visit
I think Thailand is a great value if you're there, but soapland offers something very different that still might be worth trying out. People generally expect a high level of service from a proper soapland.
Bob Terwiliger
12-31-24, 13:39
So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.
Thanks for sharing your report. I'd like to try to find this spot if you can remember a little more about its location. Hanamichi-dori runs east / west. Do you remember if this alley was more to the west (towards the train station) or to the east? And do you remember if the shop was north or south of Hanamichi-dori? Or if you remember any other recognizable shops or landmarks that were nearby, that would be helpful too.
AnalKnight
01-01-25, 06:21
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1873
Had some time to kill in Shibuya before an appointment and felt like blowing my load, so walked into the local THC shop. Sayuri was the only one available on short notice sans reservation, so I was like, fuck it, why not. Bad idea.
Paid the gold rate for one hour plus extras in the form of instant blowjob and CIM. Met her and she seemed fine at first, but once we got into a love hotel room, her communication got really bad. Like she refused to put any effort in. Once in the room, she also offered FS for an extra 20 K yen. Decided to go for it despite having already paid for CIM.
Long story short: she barely put any effort into it, was complaining about being too tired to properly do a BJ and tried to get out of it by using her hands mostly, and did her best to starfish during actual sex. Worst part was that I ended up fucking her doggystyle and right when I finished, she immediately pulled away, wrecking all the fun in the process.
Trash provider who belongs on the streets. Don't visit her, gents.
Luckily I did have a much better experience with someone else from THC whom I will review later on.
So I'm back home now, got super sick on the flight back home, but here's my last trip report.
I didn't want to leave Japan defeated from my previous experience at Polaris (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2965922&viewfull=1#post2965922).
I read the girls at Tokyo Amateur look very close to their pics, so I chose Setsuna. https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%9d%b1%e9%87%8e%e3%81%9b%e3%81%a4%e3%81%aa/.
On the website, the prices state 50 minutes 17,000 yen + admission fee 2,000 yen + choice fee 2,000 yen. So the total should be 21,000 yen. Yet the booker on Line said it would be 23,100 yen. It's only $13 USD extra, but this really irritated me and I asked him why. He just repeated 23,100 yen. Ok fine whatever, it was my last day in Japan.
I arrived to the place in Shibuya. I paid and he told me to go next door to the LH. The LH was only 2,200 yen for 1 HR. Setsuna arrived and she looked great, youthful, and not far off from her pics. Attitude was pleasant, but it was awkward since I don't speak Japanese. After showering together, she just laid there in bed LOL. I'm used to kgirls taking control and devouring me. But, then again, Setsuna is quite young. Typically, the younger the girl, the worse the service.
Anyway, after some awkward kissing, she offered me the secret menu. I said 10,000 yen, she said no, 20,000 yen. I checked my wallet and all I had left was 14,000 yen and showed her directly. She quickly and cheerfully said ok. LOL.
Total damage was 39,300 yen, $262 USD. I feel like my total experiences in Japan was not good. Mainly due to my fault of not being able to speak Japanese. The most fun I had was at Luxe oppai pub. At my age, just making out and goofing off with girls is a lot of fun. When I get DH, at least for me, the girls just want to leave quickly as possible LOL. Then I feel pissed I wasted all this money. I'm going to study Japanese for the next several months and look forward to oppai pubs.
Enter The V
01-01-25, 13:39
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1873
Had some time to kill in Shibuya before an appointment and felt like blowing my load, so walked into the local THC shop. Sayuri was the only one available on short notice sans reservation, so I was like, fuck it, why not. Bad idea.
Paid the gold rate for one hour plus extras in the form of instant blowjob and CIM. Met her and she seemed fine at first, but once we got into a love hotel room, her communication got really bad. Like she refused to put any effort in. Once in the room, she also offered FS for an extra 20 K yen. Decided to go for it despite having already paid for CIM.
Long story short: she barely put any effort into it, was complaining about being too tired to properly do a BJ and tried to get out of it by using her hands mostly, and did her best to starfish during actual sex. Worst part was that I ended up fucking her doggystyle and right when I finished, she immediately pulled away, wrecking all the fun in the process.
Trash provider who belongs on the streets. Don't visit her, gents.
Luckily I did have a much better experience with someone else from THC whom I will review later on.Maybe she doesn't like fucking foreigners.
Traveler X
01-01-25, 20:21
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=1873Paid the gold rate for one hour plus extras in the form of instant blowjob and CIM. Met her and she seemed fine at first, but once we got into a love hotel room, her communication got really bad. Like she refused to put any effort in. Once in the room, she also offered FS for an extra 20 K yen. Decided to go for it despite having already paid for CIM.
Long story short: she barely put any effort into it, was complaining about being too tired to properly do a BJ and tried to get out of it by using her hands mostly, and did her best to starfish during actual sex. Worst part was that I ended up fucking her doggystyle and right when I finished, she immediately pulled away, wrecking all the fun in the process.
Thanks for your warning about Sayuri THC. There is a huge turnover in this work, I've met girls who did it for years and I've met girls on their first week of work ever (it shows). Some girls aren't cut out for it. This is why you see many reports of guys trying 2 or 3 girls with one girl that sucks and another girl that's amazing. The gap between two random girls can be huge.
One thing I've seen others mentioned is not to pay for extras like CIM but just negotiate after. I don't know if this is necessarily better, but the reasoning was sometimes the girl didn't even remember the options. I find the better girls simply do everything happily, and the worst girls have problems no matter what you prepare. Just an idea, more data points on this will help.
Look forward to hearing about your other girl. For those staying longer, if you meet a girl you like get her LINE and ask to meet her again at your hotel. Some girls are happy to do this and cut out the middle man. Only do this with a special girl you want to repeat, since most guys prefer someone new for the variety.
Maybe she doesn't like fucking foreigners.
Would be odd then since she chose to work for a shop that does nothing but fuck foreigners. Would be like a flight attendant that hates airplanes. More likely, she simply SUCKS.
Anyway, after some awkward kissing, she offered me the secret menu. I said 10,000 yen, she said no, 20,000 yen. I checked my wallet and all I had left was 14,000 yen and showed her directly. She quickly and cheerfully said ok. LOL.
This is the way.
Girls are about making as much as they can, most will take what they can get. No guarantee it will work but this is 100% the goto strategy by strip club veterans negotiating for the same thing. Glad to hear from you again, there is certainly a learning curve to all this but you are seeing a pattern that will help your success rate in the future.
Total damage was 39,300 yen, $262 USD. I feel like my total experiences in Japan was not good. Mainly due to my fault of not being able to speak Japanese. The most fun I had was at Luxe oppai pub. At my age, just making out and goofing off with girls is a lot of fun. When I get DH, at least for me, the girls just want to leave quickly as possible LOL. Then I feel pissed I wasted all this money. I'm going to study Japanese for the next several months and look forward to oppai pubs.
This is how I started out too, some Japanese goes a long way for fun. The promo rate to enter an oppai pub works out to $38 for 3 girls. If you find a girl you like, it can easily double to extend but I still consider that cheap. If you can get into 3 oppai pubs and club hop, you end up with 9 girls and it's still less than the cost of DH. But, it depends on what you want, many guys only want sex. Like you, I just like flirting with girls because I can enjoy that for hours. There are many levels to play, I once did 3 hours with a girl and could have done more. You just have to find your girl.
Some girls I have them put their legs over me while we chat. I'm not even a foot person but occasionally a girl like Rito has such beautiful feet and she will kick off her heels so I can feel them. A pro like her doesn't even hesitate. She was even better on repeat when I presented her card on a later day to pick her. Other girls are good kissers, others fun to talk with and stroke. And it needs to be said I can see 15 girls and every one of them has different breasts than the others. It's the fountain of youth for me.
About DH girl inconsistency, this goes to the turnover issue. Some girls are not cut out for DH, while other girls know their job and won't give low effort. DH girls are picked for looks over service, while soapland tends to be service over looks on average.
If you max out at Luxe, remember your trick from before of showing a receipt. It could probably get you into Leicester and Hosekinobako again, especially around 8pm before clubs fill up. You also mentioned kgirls, for those in the US, Canada, and Australia there are several cities where you have a lot of good choices. Korean girls at korgs have a high average level of service. You can research them in the Asian threads at most major cities.
As you mentioned, speaking some Japanese goes a long way to having fun with girls and flirting with them at an oppai pub. But also, it can help you open more options including Leicester and Hosekinobako. I think it can work again especially if you go at off hours like 8pm before the place gets packed. Otoh while Leicester and Hosekinobako gives you a bigger roster of girls and some may be better, the girls there are less used to foreigners. That's the main advantage of Luxe even though it limits your options.
Wanted to ask if anybody has had any luck with Seeking Arragements in Tokyo? I've had mixed results in other cities wondering if it's worth renewing my membership.
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