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Erik
07-16-02, 21:12
Urgent Request

Would anyone know where action is the best by the North Korean border in China ? Dandong ? Yanji ? Tumen ?

Daniel_You
12-07-02, 07:24
Too late a response but...

Simply action is the best in Yanji, because it's biggest city. But price is high due to South Koreans.

Daniel


Originally posted by Erik
Urgent Request

Would anyone know where action is the best by the North Korean border in China ? Dandong ? Yanji ? Tumen ?

Randy Farang
12-28-02, 02:09
Thanks to Kim Jong Ill and his nuclear brinksmanship I suspect that in the very near future everyone in the DPRK is going to get f***ed big time.

Daniel_You
03-05-03, 16:13
Still this is the most QUIET place in WSG forum.

Daniel

BJtemp
03-22-03, 15:28
Just wanna say hello, brothers.

This site is so very well organized, that board-hopping is pretty fun.

I don't even know one can go into North Korea to travel.......Can someone first shed some light on that??

Erik
03-29-03, 02:24
Yes you can travel to North Korea from China. Go to the N.Korean embassy in Peking, they will direct you to their state owned travel agency, then you can travel either bay train or by air (with Air Korio) to Pyongyang. I guess they organize group tours that you have to join. Don't expect to travel alone. So not very goog for tac-tac / boom-boom.

Erik
03-29-03, 02:30
Who knows where is the most active scene at the North Korean border ? Is it in Dandong, Tumen, Yanji, or anywhere else ? Also would I be more lokely to find North Korean immigrant girls or Korean ethnic Chinese girls in Changchun, Jilin, Shenyang or elsewhere ?
Thanks.

Rendorseg
03-29-03, 05:14
Hey, I'm all in favor of adventure travel but you guys have to be fuckin nuts or suicidal or asking for big trouble to consider going to North Korea... or is it a gentle dictatorship?


Originally posted by Erik
Who knows where is the most active scene at the North Korean border ? Is it in Dandong, Tumen, Yanji, or anywhere else ? Also would I be more lokely to find North Korean immigrant girls or Korean ethnic Chinese girls in Changchun, Jilin, Shenyang or elsewhere ?
Thanks.

Asiaphile
03-29-03, 05:51
Hey rendorseg, you need to look at a map of the North Korea-China border. Dandong, Tumen and Yanji are INSIDE CHINA, near the border with N. Korea. There are over 300,000 North Korean "illegal refugees" in China's Jilin Province.
Don't assume you can't get into the "Hermit Kingdon," although it's not easy for everyone. Individuals carrrying Chinese, Japanese and a few other passports of nations with embassies and trade relations go often. Don't use words like "fuckin nuts or suicidal" without knowing the facts. North Korea is dangerous only if you're a North Korean living there.

Rendorseg
03-29-03, 06:49
Well, if not 'fuckin' nuts' then perhaps it's a tad bit over the edge for me. I just do not know if the gvmt there particularly is welcoming us gringos... but perhaps in the border areas of China, hum......


Originally posted by asiaphile
Hey rendorseg, you need to look at a map of the North Korea-China border. Dandong, Tumen and Yanji are INSIDE CHINA, near the border with N. Korea. There are over 300,000 North Korean "illegal refugees" in China's Jilin Province.
Don't assume you can't get into the "Hermit Kingdon," although it's not easy for everyone. Individuals carrrying Chinese, Japanese and a few other passports of nations with embassies and trade relations go often. Don't use words like "fuckin nuts or suicidal" without knowing the facts. North Korea is dangerous only if you're a North Korean living there.

MeatMan
03-30-03, 03:06
Let alone, A Brotha!!... Good God Almighty!! :D

Erik
03-30-03, 12:42
Rendorseg :
I know this is not a political forum, but please don't also assume that we here all originate from Bush's country. You know, the world is full of free human beings who can travel as much as they want into the Axis of Evil (and who like it !), maybe because their government does not plan to become the cop of the world, at tax payers expense. The world is just beautiful and full unexpected places, if you want to look a bit further than your CNN screen. And let me tell you that Korean girls are ones of the best BJers... I had a few Korean ethnic girls in Peking, and they all were stunners !

So, about my original question, who would have the answer ?

Freeler
03-30-03, 14:44
Erik,

Your original question... Perhaps asking that question is giving the answer:)
Bordertowns are always 'happening'.
Have a good look at your map and determine which of those towns would presumably have the most crossborder traffic.
Go there... and fuck'em!

Rendorseg
03-30-03, 18:52
OK Ok ok.... I just want all our fellow WSG Expeditionary force members to be safe, that's all... clearly I know little about that region of the world and it was good to learn about Korean oral skills, that they're stunners in Beijing at least....


Originally posted by Erik
Rendorseg :
I know this is not a political forum, but please don't also assume that we here all originate from Bush's country. You know, the world is full of free human beings who can travel as much as they want into the Axis of Evil (and who like it !), maybe because their government does not plan to become the cop of the world, at tax payers expense. The world is just beautiful and full unexpected places, if you want to look a bit further than your CNN screen. And let me tell you that Korean girls are ones of the best BJers... I had a few Korean ethnic girls in Peking, and they all were stunners !

So, about my original question, who would have the answer ?

Medic
03-31-03, 17:51
I am thinking of going to North Korea to teach English, and check out some of the ladies.Anyone know of people who have done this, or how I might be able to do so?

Asiaphile
03-31-03, 19:25
Veerrry naive...
The xenophobic North Korean govt. makes in a crime for any of its citizens to even talk to a foreigner!

Medic
04-05-03, 04:18
I saw on another bulletin an entry by someone who did teach in North Korea. Apparently a lot of his classes were at night, and the only lighting was what was shinning on the statue of their dear leader. It turned out that he had to teach his classes outside around the statue, and all he could talk about were the writings of Kim Il Sung.
Madelaine Albright was asked by dear leader to send English teachers when she as Secretary of State visited the country, and I have also heard that two American colleges have been given contracts to either send teachers or train North Korean teachers.

Far_East
04-06-03, 17:12
Medic,

I personally would not go to N Korea to teach English just to be near the girls. It just isn't worth it. I would only go for other reasons. But I would not go even then because I would have to be celibate while I am there.

MeatMan
04-07-03, 05:31
I personally think the the North Korean Army WANTS to fight......Shit they're bored!!

Daniel_You
04-09-03, 09:43
MeatMan,

First time to meet you at 'North Korea forum'.

I guess you're based on Seoul or somewhere in South Korea. Do you really think North Korean army could afford a war against South Korea and the U.S.? For me, I don't think so, and neither I suppose their real intension of breaking the war, which could most likely cause the 'whole demolition' of their country.

Daniel


Originally posted by MeatMan
I personally think the the North Korean Army WANTS to fight......Shit they're bored!!

Daniel_You
04-09-03, 09:55
Things must best concerned when we talk about North Korea...

Okay, guys, I frequently went and am now going to buy girls in various places in many countries, and seldom felt that it could be a 'sin'. I have no specific religious idea, either.

But I think there are two kinds of prostitutions in the world, and those two must be regarded differently. One is prostitution only for 'living' itself, and the other for just 'getting extra and easy money without working hard'.

For South Korea, you don't need to consider the girls' economic condition. In South Korea, when one wants to work, still there are very many jobs to feed themselves and even their family, once they don't spend too much money on needless matters. And when there is a woman who cannot work because of various matters, e.g. health conditions, handicapped status, by law, South Korean government has quite-well organized welfare plan.

But, but... in North Korea and in some Manchuria cities near North Korean border, it's different.

I bet almost 99% of the prositution proposed by North Korean girls are just for 'living' and 'feeding'. Nuclear weapon and the status of ordinary people are different matters. They don't know what nuclear weapons mean, even what it is. Their only concern is to 'survive'.

So, gentlemen, please take just a while to think about the ordinary people in North Korea.

I am not communist (hell, I am working for an American company - multinational one - here in Seoul) and I hate Kim Jongil. But also we have to separate ordinary people in North Korea from the ruling class of that sad country.

Daniel

MeatMan
04-12-03, 05:27
Originally posted by daniel_you
MeatMan,

First time to meet you at 'North Korea forum'.

I guess you're based on Seoul or somewhere in South Korea. Do you really think North Korean army could afford a war against South Korea and the U.S.? For me, I don't think so, and neither I suppose their real intension of breaking the war, which could most likely cause the 'whole demolition' of their country.

Daniel


Hello Daniel,

Actually I'm in the U.S.(Massachusetts) and a African-American with a heart.

I'm just saddend that Kim Jong Il would starve and mainpulate his own people! The U.S. Is one of the largest(if not the largest) supplier of food to the N.Korean people and he's not taking care of his own!

I have no love for this punk!

Stud_Lee
04-12-03, 07:38
My ex's dad is from North Korea. Some of the stories I've heard will make you shit bricks. The Kim's are not nice people at all.

It's funny, I've had ex's who are decedents from two of the three axes of evil countries (DPRK and Iran). LOL! A good friend of mine is from Iraq. Not one of them has anything good to say about the governments in their respective homelands.

And you, Erik, your comments were completely unnecessary and typical Eurotrash garbage. Think what you want about US foreign policy, but this is not the medium to spout. Some of us from “ignorant Bush country” have actually been around this world and have seen “past the CNN screen”. Pray tell some of us have probably seen more than you ever have. Much of this world may be beautiful, but there's plenty of ugliness too. Spare us the preaching.

And I disagree with you about KGirls and blowjobs. They make awesome girlfriends, but I don’t think the best lovers. Iranian girls on the other hand!

pekingdog
05-24-03, 15:38
Gents,

Let's brush aside the politics for a second and look at the real situation.

North Korea's government maintains a much greater degree of control over its people and society than other "communist" countries. There are no opportunities for meeting and having fun with the locals as there is in China and Vietnam. In comparison to North Korea these places are quite free (but let's not dive into that topic please).

Erik provided a good basic intro for how to arrange a trip to North Korea earlier in the thread. I think there is a company called Koryo Tours or something like that that arranges tours as well. You can do an internet search to find the website if interested. There is almost no possibility for doing individual travel to North Korea. It's bascially a group thing.

Basically, restrictions vary, but Americans are generally not welcome in North Korea. NK is more suspicious of some nationalities than others. There are a lot of one or two day tours that are restricted to Chinese nationals. There are always "special circumstances" though, and if you're really polite and agree to play by the very strict rules, they might invite you.

If there is any prostitution at all in the country that would be accessible to foreigners, it would probably be at one of the hotels for foreigners there. Koreans are not exactly in love with foreigners though, and if you find any fun, I'm sure the girls would be Chinese imports.

Koreans (both identified as "Korean race" and "Han Chinese race" with some Korean blood) are common all over Northeast China, and there are a lot of Korean-looking people in Shandong, as the people probably came across from Dalian. Some ethnic Koreans look less Korean than some Han Chinese in China though. People there have intermarried a lot, so if you are flexible it is easy to find a "Korean" in China.

Sainter
11-06-03, 06:39
Hey fellas, stick to the main reason we're all in this forum. Leave politics out of it.

WizardII
11-24-03, 08:58
There is a lot of good information here. Understanding the political climate in this region is important to figure out how to not be killed while looking for nookie.

Thanks,
wiz

MeatMan
11-26-03, 03:49
Once Kim Jong Il steps down in 2 years, North Korea will be turned upside down,That will just open the floodgate for untapped pussy!

Keep your eyes open on N.Korea, I know I have.

I Just hope its cheap :(

DayNight
05-10-04, 15:23
If you want to visit North Korea I suggest you go via Beijing. There is a western run travel agent there, http://www.koryogroup.com , specialized on North Korea. They can give you all the answers.

There is even one Casino in 'Rajin', which, I guess, caters for Chinese and maybe Russian visitors. Info:

http://www.ildado.com/land_casinos_north_korea.html

But I would strongly advise to stay away from any gal. If caught, you WILL end up in jail.

Dunderhead
05-16-04, 20:31
Great, the first thing that North Korea will need after Kim Il Jung II (bad hair one), is a bunch of WSG dick-heads cuming over the boarder for fresh 'pussy'. They'll argue over US$1 change for a bbbjcim all night service too. Keep those gates closed NK.

Lover Boy
06-15-04, 22:48
Faulk,

Who cares man, pussy is pussy.

Bang it, eat it, fuck it, then forget it until the next session.

LoverBoy

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add standard capitalization throughout the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no capital lettering. Thanks!

Red Lion
07-10-04, 21:01
After years of studying and reading about North Korea, I would not expect any "quality" pussy or much else until a generation after the Communist Govt falls. It will take at least two generations of high quality beef and rice consumption to get anything like we currently see in Japan, S. Korea, Thailand and anywhere else in Asia.

When you look at NK Girls and they are smiling you can see stains on their teeth (and this was from pictures on the '70s when food was more common), this is from Vitamin B deficiency. The average North korean hasn't had enough vitamins for good health for the past decade. I am amazed when I read about the famine that has been there for so long that women are able to have periods, let alone bear children.

North Korea is a really sad place.

Rene02
08-02-04, 09:41
I have been to NK and trust me, some girls are very cute. Surely not elegant and no good make-up, but some sexy women in uniform.

I tried to talk to some of them, but it was a reall miss.

so no sex for a few days.. even the guides did not respond to my sollicitations

Tangent
09-03-04, 06:32
From 9-02-04 edition of Hankooki.com
By Andrei Lankov

Once upon a time, prostitution was common in the North. Prior to the Korean War, the kisaeng houses _ a cross between an elite club, a restaurant, and a brothel _ flourished in the cities, and in the years 1945-1950 even the leaders of the new Communist regime would occasionally choose a kisaeng house for a confidential meeting. Suffice to say that the first encounter between Kim Il-sung and the leader of the North Korean Nationalist Right, Cho Man-sik, was arranged by Soviet officers in Hwabang, the then famous kisaeng house.

In the late 1940s, the North Korean government embarked on an anti-prostitution campaign. The kisaeng houses were closed down by the beginning of the Korean War, and in the elaborate system of hereditary ``class classification’’ of the late 1950s their former employees were defined as members of the ``hostile class.’’

It is not clear when and how prostitution made its comeback in the North. Perhaps the turning point was reached around 1980, when the authorities opened the so-called Ansan Club near the small but luxurious Potonggang Hotel. In this club the patrons (exclusively foreigners) were entertained by hostesses from Southeast Asian countries. However, the authorities kept Korean women away from this dirty business _ and the club did not last for long.

Things changed in the late 1980s when Pyongyang staged the 13th International Festival of Youth and Students. This gathering attracted several tens of thousands of foreigners, and some of them were interested in sex-for-sale. Rumors persisted that during the festival the North Korean police had instructions to turn a blind eye to sexual liaisons between local women and foreigners.

Around the same time, with the tacit approval of the police, professional prostitutes began to ply their trade in major international hotels. This is still the case. The girls’ ranks are often swelled by hotel personnel _ the allure of hard currency being too strong to resist…

And then the early 1990s changed everything. The dissolution of the communist camp triggered a collapse of the North Korean economy. An estimated three-quarters of the industrial plants ceased to operate by the mid-1990s. After the floods of 1995, the government was unable to issue rations, and most people in the countryside were left to their own fate.

In this new environment domestic prostitution was bound to appear and flourish. The merchants needed easy sex _ and could buy it from the crowds of impoverished, displaced women. The hookers appeared in the markets, or near large shops and restaurants. Some private eateries began to provide a ``special service,’’ sending girls to please the patrons after they finished their meals (the owners received a commission equal to some 20 percent of the girl’s fee). Prostitution became an important source of revenue for private inns _ and such inns have sprung up in great numbers in the last decade.

Run Mann
06-10-05, 00:53
DPRK refutes [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) charges by US

June 7, 2005

Pyongyang - The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) on Monday rejected the [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) charges by the United States, calling it "part of the US anti-DPRK psychological operation."

It is "part of the US anti-DPRK psychological operation aimed to damage the international prestige of the DPRK and realize a 'regime change' in it," the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said in a commentary.

In an annual report on [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) issued last week by the US State Department, Washington termed the DPRK as "a [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) source nation" and accused Pyongyang of taking no measures to combat it.

The KCNA commentary said that "the nature of Korean-style socialism does not allow such social vices as [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)."

"This only indicates that the US has gone to a reckless phase in its moves to damage the legitimate authority of the DPRK government," the commentary said.

A war of words between the DPRK and the United States has intensified as the six-party talks remain deadlocked.

The DPRK, China, Japan, Russia, the United States and South Korea have held three rounds of talks trying to resolve the DPRK nuclear issue. The six-party talks have been stalled since June last year amid differences between the DPRK and the United States.Pyongyang has accused Washington of adopting a hostile policy on the issue.

Divine Baal
06-23-05, 16:34
I'll be on a tour in NK in Oct 05 and saw (from some other visitors on the same trip earlier) that one stayed at a certain hotel where there was a "party zone" for mainly the chinese guests.

I know they are a horny bunch and there is ladies available at these hotels but what kind of risk does one take? Only for chinese guests or do they take on eurotrash too?

That you might be videotaped or s*t doesn't bother but do the Officials act on this? Police raids or is it really safe (I don't think in terms of VD).

Asia Rocks
06-26-05, 14:56
DB,

Good on you; the chance of a lifetime! The Dear Leader's award for the first weiguk to shag a Nord beavette still remains open. This award, the Dear Leader's Beaver Cleaver Award, is yours' for the taking. But you can't do it with a Chinese girl.

Good luck.

AR

Asia Rocks
06-26-05, 15:05
DB,

You have the chance of a lifetime, the Dear Leader's award to the first weiguk to shag a Nord beavette remains unclaimed. This award, the Dear Leader's Beaver Cleaver Award, is yours for the taking. But you can't win it with a Chinese girl. You gotta go for it.

Good luck!

AR

Phil1980
07-17-05, 23:10
I'll be on a tour in NK in Oct 05 and saw (from some other visitors on the same trip earlier) that one stayed at a certain hotel where there was a "party zone" for mainly the chinese guests.

I know they are a horny bunch and there is ladies available at these hotels but what kind of risk does one take? Only for chinese guests or do they take on eurotrash too?

That you might be videotaped or s*t doesn't bother but do the Officials act on this? Police raids or is it really safe (I don't think in terms of VD).Divine,,

In the basement of the Yanggakdo Hotel in Pyongyang (47 floors on an island on the Taedong River in the center of Pyongyang) there is a casino run by Macau Chinese with Chinese hookers. When I was there it was 128 USD for special service. There is no risk of police raids, but in China you can get the same for a third of the cost or less, depending on the place.

BTW, I'm going to China again in August/September and will definitely post some pics on here when I come back.

Divine Baal
08-05-05, 12:14
Divine,,

In the basement of the Yanggakdo Hotel in Pyongyang (47 floors on an island on the Taedong River in the center of Pyongyang) there is a casino run by Macau Chinese with Chinese hookers. When I was there it was 128 USD for special service. There is no risk of police raids, but in China you can get the same for a third of the cost or less, depending on the place.

BTW, I'm going to China again in August/September and will definitely post some pics on here when I come back.Gee, thanx. I'll be staying at that hotel and that price was really not what I expected.. (Ok.. was stiffed for 80 USD i Shangahi for an effing simple HJ so I should not complain *lol*) Rather steep. It should be a rare pu**y for me to cash up that amount for just short time. If it was local, then I could write it uff as a novelty but as you said.. Better to take care of the need in China. (And then taste local poontang in Seuol after the visit to NK.

Appreciated the info!

The Pieman
09-26-05, 17:59
Interesting "political forum", although I think most mongers agree the chance of tasting that first North Korean pussy is not going to happen.

Challenging is an understatement but I admire the first Crusader to prove me wrong.

Phil1980
09-29-05, 15:51
actually prostitution is supposed to be rampant in north korea, since most people there don't have jobs any longer, the state-run economy has largely collapsed, so people are roaming around, trading goods from china, looking for food, naturally many women at these trading outposts try to get some of the goodies from the chinese traders. only for white westerners the chances of meeting such women appears next to impossible, since you can't just travel around the country on your own.

probably the best chances are at the chinese border, like in dandong for example or elsewhere in the north east of china, i guess there should be north korean women working there, even though they have to be very careful, if the chinese police catches them they will be deported back to n. korea, maybe after having been gang raped at the chinese police station by the "officers", nasty business.

Intransit
10-20-05, 12:23
I'm very pleased to be the first to verify that you can in fact have sex with a prostitute in North Korea, although Intransit is also disappointed that this report is not based on personal experience.

Intransit visited the DPRK last weekend. One of our evening activities was a stop at the Yanggokdo Hotel, probably the capital's finest accommodation. Located on an island in the middle of the city, the hotel is off-limits to all North Koreans except the hotel's employees, tourist guides, and the highest level of government officials. Among its imperialist delights are a driving range, where golfers hit balls directly into the river; a casino; and a "health center."

The Health Center offers two services on a menu that includes English. One is "rubdown with a damp towel" US$8 (or perhaps Euros) and "full service" for US$150 (again, perhaps it's Euros, which is the DPRK's baseline foreign currency). Full service is explained as "fucking."

Had Intransit know this in advance, he would have made a beeline for the venue upon arrival. Another member of our group apparently did. But wait, it's not what you think. It is indeed fucking, but the Health Center's sex workers are all imported from China. So for those of you looking to be pussy pioneers and bang a North Korean, you are probably better off, for now, doing so in Dandong on the Chinese side of the border. But for those who want to claim they got laid in the world's last Stalinist state, it can indeed be done.

Lorenzo
10-20-05, 19:12
I can verify everything that Intransit said, although, like him, my report is not based on personal experience. However, I have no reason to doubt the reliability of the report I received.

I was in Pyongyang last weekend on the very same tour that Intransit was. The North Korean government briefly opened its doors to Americans, who are usually banned from entering, to attend the 'Mass Games' that are held every few years. One of the evenings they allowed those members of the group who wanted to visit the Yanggokdo Hotel. One of the group members told me personally that he went to the spa and inquired about their 'special service,' which was priced at 132 dollars or euros, I forget which. He played dumb and asked what the special service is, and he was told 'sex.' The person who told me this told me that he didn't avail himself of the service. However, another member of the group did go in and have a massage. Whether he got laid or not, I don't know. I do know he was in there long enough to hold up the bus taking us back to our hotel, so there is a good chance that he did. Like Intransit, had I known this in advance, I would have made a beeline for the place myself. The problem is, if you do partake of this service, chances are that everyone in your tour group will know it, so you must be beyond embarrassment. (Group tours are the only way to visit North Korea as a tourist.)

The door has already closed on Americans visiting, and it probably won't reopen until the next Mass Games, which will be in 3 or 5 years, I'm not sure which. However, there is no reason anyone else reading this board who isn't a US citizen can't visit. Tours can be booked through www.koryotours.com. If you're interested in a truly different travel experience, I strongly recommend a visit to North Korea; it's unlike anyplace else I've ever visited. As Intransit said, it's the last remaining Stalinist state. If you do manage to get laid there, please post.

Lorenzo

Intransit
10-22-05, 12:46
Not only were Lorenzo and I on the same trip to NorKor, but I just received a PM from another member, who was previously very active on another board, that he was also on the same trip. What does this mean? That ISG members are attracted to going to North Korea? Or that there are way more ISG members out there than we believe?

Freemasons, watch out, here comes ISG!

Socrates 13
10-27-05, 12:23
It is fairly easy to have sex with Nk girls, if it means that all you want is a one with a NK passport. Many of the Koreans in Japan and HK are technically North Koreans, although most have never been there. There are several of NK decent in Hawaii as well.

The reason for this is after the war those Koreans living abroad got to choose their nationality. Most chose the North.

Asia Rocks
11-06-05, 14:22
Gents,
Let me just weigh in with my opinion, influenced by a number of years in the shadow of the Juche Kingdom, that doing a NK waitress in a NK noodle shop in Beijing or a Chinese hooker in Pyongyang absolutely cannot qualify for one of the most revered awards in all of mongerdom. Anyone can do that; in fact I have already.
AR

Dude #1
11-16-05, 10:52
Yes, there is a service provider (one regularly) at the Yanggakdo Hotel. The Yanggakdo is the hotel most western tourists are obliged to stay at while in the workers' paradise. The lady is located in the massage rooms - like the casino also on the basement level of the hotel, run and staffed by Macau Chinese. Go to the massage rooms and you will offered a regular massage or, if you enquire further, a "special" massage for 132 Euro. The lady in question - I did not partake - is Japanese, attractive, in her mid-20s. I heard some incoherent stories about her. She supposedly went to North Korea voluntarily and wanted to stay at the Yanggakdo and was put up there courtesy of the DPRK government. Later she wanted to leave, but the government obliged her to pay back some of the government's largesse, which she does by the earnings from her current occupation. Well, that's the story. I wonder whether the Dear Leader's penchant for kidnapping Japanese nationals has some role here. Anyway, she is easy to spot in the hotel. She rountinely eats breakfast alone in the breakfast room and rountinely eats dinner alone in restaurant #1 at 7.00 p.m.

BJtemp
01-06-06, 15:47
Last night my wife and I were talking about communism, and the conversation led me to want to go to North Korea to see a society under the real communism (and maybe bang a few communists babes).

How easy is it to go to North Korea? Is it just the regular Visa plus Plane ticket?

I use US passport, will my looking for babes be mistakened as looking for spying?

Where is the safest place to go? Chinese border or Pingyang? Thanks.

Baby Huey
01-06-06, 16:27
You can not go to North Korea with a U.S Passport. If your passport is stamp that you have been to North Korea, you will have major issues in the U.S. You have to get doc's from the State Department to go there proir to going, when North Korea allows American into the country. But remember, there is no protection or help from the State Department, if some thing happen while you are there.

It is the same way with Cuba. There are ways around it in Cuba with a U.S. passport, but you are on your own again, if some thing happens, no help from the state department.

They do allow American during the Mass games, which were this year. But the door has already closed on Americans visiting, and it probably won't reopen until the next Mass Games, which will be in 3 or 5 years, I'm not sure which. However, there is no reason anyone else reading this board who isn't a US citizen can't visit. Tours can be booked through www.koryotours.com.

BJtemp
01-06-06, 16:37
Just read more reports underneath. I think Dandong is it. I'm gonna go this spring!

By the way, any way to tell a Korean from a Chinese?

Traveler1234
01-06-06, 18:05
Just read more reports underneath. I think Dandong is it. I'm gonna go this spring!

By the way, any way to tell a Korean from a Chinese?

Hey dude - not sure by what you meant with the question 'korean from chinese'.

For most asians that grow up in Asia, we can spot the difference between someone from japan, china, korea, etc. a mile away....and 99% of time we're on the mark. But to be able to articulate in writing how we do it...well, can't answer that.

Miclac
01-07-06, 20:54
No offense traveller, but my guess is you can not tell the difference "a mile away" and often not at all. I have seen my Chinese friends in China fail time and again to tell the difference between Korean and Chinese. Of course, if they start speaking then they know right away.

Intransit
01-07-06, 21:25
According to Koryo Tours, Americans will be allowed to visit North Korea again in the autumn of 2006. For more information, visit www.koryotours.com.

Regarding US passport holders, there is no visa stamp made in North Korea. However, if you're flying from the US to Beijing and then NK, and if you don't travel frequently, US Customs officials may notice that there is a gap between when you left China and when you returned.

Traveler1234
01-10-06, 16:02
No offense traveller, but my guess is you can not tell the difference "a mile away" and often not at all. I have seen my Chinese friends in China fail time and again to tell the difference between Korean and Chinese. Of course, if they start speaking then they know right away.

Actually, IMHO and experience, most overseas Asians who have spent time traveling throughout Asia can pretty much spot regional differences btwn Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Thai.....etc. Don't know how we can but we can.

As far as your local chinese friends, one reason why they are not as perceptive is because most of them have never traveled enough or had wide contact/experience with enough other asian nationalities to spot the differences. Local chinese often can't even tell differences btw provinces of China whereas overseas Chinese often can!

T1234

PS - it's funny but the difference btw Korea vs Chinese is so stark, except for some very classy high end women that have had cosmetic surgery...so your friends must be very local and never been out into the real world.

Cute_Tsinito
01-13-06, 03:53
Actually, IMHO and experience, most overseas Asians who have spent time traveling throughout Asia can pretty much spot regional differences btwn Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Thai.....etc. Don't know how we can but we can.

As far as your local chinese friends, one reason why they are not as perceptive is because most of them have never traveled enough or had wide contact/experience with enough other asian nationalities to spot the differences. Local chinese often can't even tell differences btw provinces of China whereas overseas Chinese often can!

T1234

PS - it's funny but the difference btw Korea vs Chinese is so stark, except for some very classy high end women that have had cosmetic surgery...so your friends must be very local and never been out into the real world.

I would have to agree. Facial characteristics of the different asian nationalities are noticeably different. It is not difficult to tell what country someone is from when you know what to look for.

Intransit
01-13-06, 06:00
This is very interesting, good observations. Even though most Chinese people I meet claim they can tell the nationalities apart, they can't--they're not even close.

No one ever guessed that my Mongolian ex was not Chinese, and even my Filipina ex--who would have passed as Latino in LA or SF--was mistaken as Chinese, which was not even close.

The interesting thing is that in Hong Kong, these mistakes are extremely rare. HKers are quick to pick out Japanese, Koreans, Thais, Filipinas, and Chinese mainlanders, which may bolster the argument that it's about experience with various Asians, not some inherent racial ferreting sense.

Traveler1234
01-17-06, 13:35
This is very interesting, good observations. Even though most Chinese people I meet claim they can tell the nationalities apart, they can't--they're not even close.

No one ever guessed that my Mongolian ex was not Chinese, and even my Filipina ex--who would have passed as Latino in LA or SF--was mistaken as Chinese, which was not even close.

The interesting thing is that in Hong Kong, these mistakes are extremely rare. HKers are quick to pick out Japanese, Koreans, Thais, Filipinas, and Chinese mainlanders, which may bolster the argument that it's about experience with various Asians, not some inherent racial ferreting sense.

Thanks for giving the excellent example..I was born in HK, grew up in the states and traveled/lived throughout Asia for last 30 yrs. My wife is from Taiwan and when we married, couldn't tell difference, but after about 10 yrs living in Asia now pretty good at telling the difference.

One Wing Low
01-17-06, 15:50
Got any?

Looks like Kim Jong Il, the dumb short fat tyrant asshole, keeps all of them for himself.

Clandestine782
01-23-06, 19:58
I have heard that there are brokers that bring women to China from North Korea, but the question is: "How?"

Another question is: "What is the market price for a bride?" There seem to be wildly varying opinions as to what the price should be.

Please PM me if you have any information. I might be interested.

Possessed Seoul
01-24-06, 08:08
Please tell me you are not indulging thoughts of doing business directly with people traffickers.

World Traveler
01-29-06, 04:52
I’ve read that it would cost a Chinese man between 1,000 to 3,000 Yuan for a North Korean bride. Most men were Chinese–Korean farmers who lived in remote areas and had a hard time finding a mate. But since the Chinese government would not recognize such marriage, they would always live in fear. This was in a research article published by one of those women organizations or similar NGO. I believe the date of the article was 2004/2005.

In 1986 (I think), China signed an agreement to help North Korea in securing and controlling the border and they have stood by it so far. They monitor the boarder cities very closely. I remember reading that the Chinese government had no mercy and would not tolerate illegal emigrants of North Korea. They would be deported immediately.

Lorenzo
01-30-06, 05:56
You can not go to North Korea with a U.S Passport. If your passport is stamp that you have been to North Korea, you will have major issues in the U.S. You have to get doc's from the State Department to go there proir to going, when North Korea allows American into the country. But remember, there is no protection or help from the State Department, if some thing happen while you are there.
Sorry, Jim, but this information is about 11 years out of date. The US government's ban on travel to DPRK was lifted in 1995. It is the DPRK government that won't allow Americans to visit, except for the mass games every few years. I was there last October, along with about 100 other Americans, including Intransit, so I know what I'm talking about. The DPRK does not stamp passports at all, but even if they did, there would be no problem when re-entering the US. It's perfectly legal.

Lorenzo

MeatMan
07-05-06, 16:54
The only thing that going off here is missles!. Kim "ding dong" Il is a quack!

Laowai123
08-30-06, 07:04
DPRK, "Paradies" as self descrided by North Koreans - or better said, they get educated that outside DPRK is hell, is from my point anything else than a location to monger. You can not unless there are some pre-conditions.

Access to DPRK and allowed to stay there have following people:

a) Tourists
b) NGO staff
c) Embassy staff
d) Biz staff for biz in or out DPRK

ad a) Tourist
This is something what I can not figure out why people are paying a bundle of money to go there. Maybe it's the magic of having a DPRK visa in the passport or the goal to get to know this country. Last thing you will not be able, they show you their show based on their ideology...nothing more. But, that's not topic of this forum...
You are under observation by your guides and other people. You don't see or feel this, but it is fact. No change to get into touch with "real" locals beside going shopping with your guide or "shown" people.

No chance to monger...unless you do it the hard way, try it and will leave the country faster as you came into.

b) NGO staff

I worked for one in DPRK for one year. We all were under observation, observed by our counterparts and others. We could move freely in Pyongyang and Nampo, but we often were asked "Who was with car xxx yesterday at yyy?" next day.

No chance to get into any closer contact with local girls. Our "Health Center" interior mainly were (and still are) hidden cams and they showed up when we came to close with one...
So, when you were lucky and found an attractive one within the NGO community, you could get what you wanted during your stay in paradies.

Otherwise you left paradies regularly for R&R, to Dandong (border city in China), Beijing or Thailand, if your NGO pay for it.

c) Embassy staff

There are embassies from Europe, many African countries and of course all varities of "Axis of Evil" countries. Impressive which varity of biz-cards you can collect there..."Military Attache of Iran, ... of Pakistan" and so on.

The staff of european embassies regularly left country to China (Beijing) or somewhere else. I only can imagine, that staff of "brother" countries, like Russia, China and from those countries doing big biz with DPRK (military biz) maybe have access to "original" DPRK SW. There were some rumors about it, but dealing with rumors were one of our daily duties.

d) Biz staff for biz in or out DPRK

Now, we are coming to the more interesting group. When you do biz with DPRK, selling or buying, and be invited from the regime, then the chance to get a "real" local SW is high, very high depending on kind of biz. When you buy from DPRK the chance is higher, because they want your money.

Doing biz can be done from China (Dandong) or started with one of their embassies around this globe. Especially when you do biz from China/Dandong and you are valuable biz partner, the chance to be invited is not bad when not having an US or South Korean passport.

Summary:

During my stay I never saw any chance to monger. My counterpart was always telling me that it is possible, but everything is possible from their point of view until you request it.

But, there are real beauties in DPRK. I saw less in Pyongyang, than on the countryside...but...far, far away from any touch. During my countriside visits I sometime got the impression, that my counterpart and driver enjoy the local "fruits" and leaving me alone in the dark, cold hotel.

LW

Phil1980
10-06-06, 03:13
But, there are real beauties in DPRK.


I can second that, and they mostly appear so "untouched" compared to Chinese girls.

Maybe if the Dear L. goes the way of his daddy things will open up? You know if North Korea was semi-open like China is now, how cheap pussy would be there, considering the standard of living and average income levels of the populace?!

MJG Dogs
10-09-06, 05:08
Now that North Korea has tested a nuke, will the Hollywood Celebrities flock over there to meet Kim Jonge Il. I am sure he is a hero to them, just like Castro and Chavez.

It is time for Team america, world Police to take action... Don't just sit there Dubya, take a day off from Iraq and level this backwater country, level it to the ground. This guy will Hit Los Angeles with a nuke if his back is against the wall, he is fucking insane.....

I am sure that you euro's will be thrilled though. Someone else that can harm the United States. I am sure there is some high-fiving in te Government buildings in Paris, Rome and Brussels

Phil1980
10-09-06, 08:45
This guy will Hit Los Angeles with a nuke if his back is against the wall, he is fucking insane.....



No he's not, he is just an evil sociopath, all he wants is to drink his expensive French Cognac (reportedly worlds largest importer of Hennessy) and enjoy his "pleasure team" of North Korean ballerinas while the people are starving.

Read this for more details:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/FI02Dg01.html

"Kim's appetite for exotic food and fine alcohol is surpassed only by his appetite for female flesh, an indulgence that led him to Koh Young-hee, formerly a dancer in one of Kim's many "pleasure teams", groups of stunningly attractive girls trained in providing for his every desire. Divided into three broad categories, the women provide "satisfaction", "happiness", and "dancing and singing"."


Basically he's one of us, how about joining us on this forum and giving some input of your own, Dear Leader Kim?

Sigui
11-05-06, 03:30
If you want North Korean women then you're better off looking in north-east China. Check out the Beijing, Dandong, Shenyang and threads from other cities in that area.
The reasons behind the number of Koreans in that area are two-fold: There were a lot of ethnic Koreans in the north-east anyway (Chao xian zu) as a result of the various wars and changes in the border over the centuries. The other reason is the number of refugees who escape from the DPRK. The river on the border between the DPRK and China freezes over in winter so many refugees leave then and seek refuge with the ethnic Koreans or try and make their way south to get across the border to a south-east Asian country where they can seek refugee status.

Professor 1
06-04-07, 03:48
You know if North Korea was semi-open like China is now, how cheap pussy would be there, considering the standard of living and average income levels of the populace?!I cannot begin to imagine, but I would certainly get in line for a visit.

Ezinho
04-16-08, 06:00
Basically he's one of us, how about joining us on this forum and giving some input of your own, Dear Leader Kim?
Looks like the "Dear Leader" is already a member of the ISG. He hasn't posted any trip reports yet, though:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/member.php?u=125217

John Aldrich
12-14-08, 19:26
The worlds oldest vocation is mongering and the very fact that North Korea is deemed to have many who are below the poverty line is all the more reason that the vocation must be prevalent there. Or is the education level so low that they do not have internet there or they do not know English to post their experiences.

Possessed Seoul
06-16-09, 04:24
Word is you can sample the local treats, but north of the Yalu river.


The worlds oldest vocation is mongering and the very fact that North Korea is deemed to have many who are below the poverty line is all the more reason that the vocation must be prevalent there. Or is the education level so low that they do not have internet there or they do not know English to post their experiences.

Jakarta Alpinist
01-15-10, 05:42
Hey bros, I came up with this thread and found you all lock yr chastity belt for yr balls in NK.

North Korea is a land of beautiful women. From olden times gisaeng(guisha) from Pyongyang and Kanggye competed while the famous gisaeng Hwangjini came from Kaesong. Be brave and grasp the opportunity.

I worked there 5 years ago and tasted hamsuki(girl from Hamhung) and kaesuki (girl from kaesong).

Of course in Pyongyang better and safer to try Chinese students or tourists at Yanggakdo hotel.

I came to know that one Singaporean business man paid 1500 bucks for tasting north korean "bamggot"(flower at night) in Koryo hotel which I paid 5 Euro.

Guys, you might have more opportunities if you unlock your belt and provide some "appreciation" to your counterpart(interpreter or a guide).

Corso 33
01-27-10, 03:33
Hey bros, I came up with this thread and found you all lock yr chastity belt for yr balls in NK.

North Korea is a land of beautiful women. From olden times gisaeng(guisha) from Pyongyang and Kanggye competed while the famous gisaeng Hwangjini came from Kaesong. Be brave and grasp the opportunity.

I worked there 5 years ago and tasted hamsuki(girl from Hamhung) and kaesuki (girl from kaesong).

Of course in Pyongyang better and safer to try Chinese students or tourists at Yanggakdo hotel.

I came to know that one Singaporean business man paid 1500 bucks for tasting north korean "bamggot"(flower at night) in Koryo hotel which I paid 5 Euro.

Guys, you might have more opportunities if you unlock your belt and provide some "appreciation" to your counterpart(interpreter or a guide).Hi Alpinist,

I intend to go there for a short trip sometimes in April or May, any advise on how to catch those local birds?

Any place to recommend?

Appreciate your recommandations.

Cheers

Marconista
12-19-11, 14:47
I am curious if North Korea will open up a little after the death of their dear leader Kim Jong Il.

James 006
12-20-11, 17:43
Hey, There must be someone with up to date information about the girls in North Korea?

Please let us know if this is a good place to monger.

Thanks!

Dajudge
01-30-12, 18:05
ANY info on the availability of female company in NK appreciated. Preferably by PM. Going there soon.

Niteluvr
02-05-12, 05:31
ANY info on the availability of female company in NK appreciated. Preferably by PM. Going there soon.Are you serious? Perhaps part of a food delivery effort? The best you could probably do is bribe your male "handler" while there but that is risky as hell. Since the only way to get there is to enter from China, why not monger in China?

Golfinho
02-05-12, 06:31
ANY info on the availability of female company in NK appreciated. Preferably by PM. Going there soon.Disregard the useless reply of the previous poster and by all means if you are inclined, seek to maximize whatever you do in NK. And please report back. Last summer in Beijing, speaking to people who work with these tours, circumspect inquiries led me to think there may be possibilities. Virgin territory, there's only so much left.

Lorenzo
02-05-12, 21:11
ANY info on the availability of female company in NK appreciated. Preferably by PM. Going there soon.I was in Pyongyang in October 2005, so this information is VERY old. The only way westerners can visit DPRK is with a government-approved tour group. At that time there was a spa in the Yanggokdo Hotel where "full service," which they acknowledged meant fucking, was available with Chinese girls for 132 euros. I did not partake, but another member of my tour group did. Whether this is still the case I don't know. Why don't you investigate and let us know (not that I intend to ever go back)?

Niteluvr
02-14-12, 03:25
I was in Pyongyang in October 2005, so this information is VERY old. The only way westerners can visit DPRK is with a government-approved tour group. At that time there was a spa in the Yanggokdo Hotel where "full service," which they acknowledged meant fucking, was available with Chinese girls for 132 euros. I did not partake, but another member of my tour group did. Whether this is still the case I don't know. Why don't you investigate and let us know (not that I intend to ever go back)?Now that's a good report. I wasn't trying to be negative in my previous post but, from what I have heard from others, it's risky as shit to ask one's official guide in North Korea where to find pussy. A small bribe might suffice, but it's still a risk. If the hotel offers massage, I would certainly ask but not be overtly obvious about that. If the poster does get lucky, we'd all love to hear about it.

Tangwhich
03-24-12, 18:21
I was in Pyongyang in October 2005, so this information is VERY old. The only way westerners can visit DPRK is with a government-approved tour group. At that time there was a spa in the Yanggokdo Hotel where "full service," which they acknowledged meant fucking, was available with Chinese girls for 132 euros. I did not partake, but another member of my tour group did. Whether this is still the case I don't know. Why don't you investigate and let us know (not that I intend to ever go back)?As of late 2011 that was still valid. There's still full service in the Chinese spa of the Yanggokdo. No idea on prices.

WSM300
08-09-12, 12:48
I am not sure if there are girls working in North Korea. But I live in South Korea. I just found out that one of my favorite barber shop girls here in suwon actually hails from pyongyang. She is between 35-40 years and is very passionate, energetic and fun in bed. I have had great times with her. I heard 6 months ago that she was to wed a south korean guy, but I by chance ran into her the other day and she told me that the wedding was cancelled.

There are probably many North Korean girls in the business here in South Korea, but they may not admit where they are from until you develop a strong rapport with them.

Meesee
08-11-15, 05:41
http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/03/north-korean-tour-companies-now-catering-pickup-artists/359417/

Oh, man.

Xfactors
02-16-21, 11:53
I read a book, "American in North Korea," by Justin M. Hughes. He went to North Korea on 4/29/17. He used a tour group called Uri Tours. www.uritours.com he was happy with the tour service.

Xfactors
02-16-21, 12:12
Koryo Tours also offers tours to North Korea. www.koryogroup.com.

Xfactors
02-16-21, 12:57
If you want to bang a North Korean babe, I guess your best bet would be to try to find a North Korean defector living in South Korea. There are some living in China, but they have to keep a low profile in China, to avoid being deported back to North Korea. In South Korea, they won't be deported.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_defectors#United_States.