Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1230955]What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .[/QUOTE]They have all run away tired of meeting old, washed up falangs who just want to pay 50 baht for a fuck. All that's left is the dross. I've been saying this for the last six months.

I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.

Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.

Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.

Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.

This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.

If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1230955]What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .[/QUOTE]If it would help I would tell you to write to the moron that runs Pattaya, the tourist side who is located at City Hall, Pattaya Nua!

LBM

[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1223887]Appreciation: Thank you, positive ISG posters. I've learned lots and was inspired to contribute myself.

I'll be in Patts 1 thru 29 May 2012. If any ISG member wants to meet up for a drink / beer, PM me.

Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.

I wrote this guide (an annex to my 'LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. YMMV, all of this is IMHO, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. This guide is based on my experiences and what I would / will do with a focus on saving money. I'm in my 30s, Asian-American, average looking / personality, cheap.

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Cheers: That's all I can think of to put in this LOS Guide for now. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]EXCELLENT post AMEX SPG! These details are extremely useful for anyone planning a trip. Your reports sharing your experiences is what makes ISG so great! Thank you for taking the time to write them!

[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1230976]Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.

Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.[/QUOTE]I won't argue with your options, or the veracity of your comments, but will take it on faith you are trying to help inexperienced mongers. So, I will ad a bit. The two situations above show evidence of foolish, rookie mistakes. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER have exposed valuables to tempt working girls. I have an IPod and a music stand out- if those are stollen I will survive.Lock up all valuables in your safe. A safe is my number one requirement while mongering, and if it is a key safe, I hide the key in a very safe and out of the way place BEFORE I get back to the room with a working girl. Only keep enough money around to pay them and for daily expenses. The same goes walking around at night (even during the day). Have your main wallet in your safe, and keep a dummy wallet with cash for the day. A copy of your passport can be kept in this wallet, or in your pants.

Also, control your drink at all times while mongering- do not allow a women to touch your drink or have access to it. One can easily do this with grace, and if you find a women excessively interesting in what you are drinking, this is a warning sign. At the first sign of any redflags, give twenty bucks to her and ask her to leave (or if afer the session, pay and ask her to leave quickly).

If your going to get drunk, do so in the most controlled enviornment possible- I. E. Stay at a guest house and wind up there or at a bar very close by BEFORE you get fucked up. Or, if you travel with a wingman, don't both get totally shit faced at the same time.

Things can always happen, but reduce the liklyhood of problems by following good safety guidelines. In a very real sense, the more I follow safey rules the more relaxed I can be and really just "let go."

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1230955]What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .[/QUOTE]What do you expect for 500B including putting it in their butt. I was there a few weeks ago and was surprised by the quantity and quality. To each there own.

[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1230976]I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.

Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.

Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.

Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.

This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.

If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.[/QUOTE]So some drunks were the victims of thefts. I really don't call that "dangerous". Were their nuts chopped off? Thefts and ripoffs happen everywhere in every tourist city in the world.

[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1230976]I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.

Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.

Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.

Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.

This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.

If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.[/QUOTE]I sincerely hope none of the members on this board got ripped off. Once again remember to lock up your gold ornaments including watch, wallet, expensive phone or anything of value. Carry only local currency to the amount you think you need for the night. Keep a watch over your drinks (I know it is hard ).

I believe most of the victims are probably tourists who think they can trust these sweet looking ladies. Given the chance any working girl all over the world would rob you blind. Once when I was in Beijing I met a cool girl in the bar. She had her own car. Once inside the room I locked up my valuables in the safe deposit box in full view of the girl without her seeing the combination. I was staying at beijing International hotel. She did take offence and asked me about it. I told her it is my usual routine and it did not relect on her. Ofcourse given the opportunity she would have cleaned me up.

I had a gf in Thailand and I trusted her enough that she carried all my money and wallet whenever we went out. She was so thorough that she would doublecheck all bills and did not pay any tips because in Thailand nobody pays tips according to her. She is one of a million I suppose.

[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1230976]I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.

Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.

Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.

Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.

This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.

If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.[/QUOTE]I can vouch for this on Soi 6 as well. Every 10 feet I run into a LB who wants to "trick" me for some reason. (If anyone has any good tips on bypassing LBs, I would be most grateful! Eventually as they were approaching I'd ask "LB?" and they to their credit did say yes, and I'd smile and shake my head, but still annoying that EVERY ONE had to come up to me.) Anyway, when I first got there I hadn't figured this out, so they would all run out of their respective beer bar and grab my hand and try to pull me into buying a drink. I was a bit tipsy in one event and she / he grabbed one of my hands with both of hers, pushed up against me, and the other hand headed around to the back side. Now I'm one of the lucky ones that alchohol never truly takes over, and I'm generally aware of my surroundings at all times, so my left hand went with hers and caught it before it tried my back pocket (Of course I carry everything in my front pockets for this very reason, or side pockets on cargo pants / shorts.

So in summary, I do not believe location matters, at where a con like this can go down. Beach Road, Soi 6, your room, if you leave the door open, the opportunity of getting ripped off awaits.

When I go out, I only take enough for me to drink on and pay the barfines (front pocket) , I then hide my a couple of pay moneys around the room in less conspicuous spots, IE under clothes, behind curtains, etc which I can use to pay so I never open my safe whilst the ladies are in the room.

From cnngo [url]http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/escape/7-beaches-to-avoid-776302[/url] (P. S. The link at the bottom paints a pretty accurate picture of Pattaya IMHO) :

2. Seediness: Pattaya, Thailand.

About 150 kilometers southeast of Bangkok, Pattaya came to prominence as a favored venue for American GIs seeking a break during the Vietnam War.

Its reputation today is based more on go-go bars and sex shows than its sand and sea offerings.

That said, the beer-bar culture is more subdued and the sex industry less evident than in years gone by –- families can avoid the "entertainment" district of this city of 800, 000 people by staying in nearby Jomtien.

The beaches are lackluster by Thailand's impressive standards and the shoreline is packed with unremarkable hotels and restaurants. Throw into the mix the common sight of countless fat old gents promenading along the beaches with their "girlfriends" in tow and you have a recipe for an experience that can challenge to uplift.

Deck chairs and umbrella concessions dominate beach space in both Pattaya and Jomtien, so those wishing to enjoy the sun, sand and water for free are forced to cram into small areas of beach between. A frequent complaint from tourists that local government officials say they are trying to solve.

Local efforts to convert Pattaya into more of a family-friendly destination continue. The city's international marketing efforts have led to an influx in the number of visitors from non-traditional tourism markets.

With all the criticism it cops, Pattaya appears to be on the cusp of change again, but becoming a true family-friendly holiday spot is still some considerable time away and requires further aggressive action by local government and authorities.

Additional reporting by John Le Fevre.

More on CNNGo: The challenges facing Pattaya [url]http://www.cnngo.com/bangkok/visit/pattayas-family-friendly-push-threatened-615410[/url]

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1231187]I sincerely hope none of the members on this board got ripped off. Once again remember to lock up your gold ornaments including watch, wallet, expensive phone or anything of value. Carry only local currency to the amount you think you need for the night. Keep a watch over your drinks (I know it is hard ).

I believe most of the victims are probably tourists who think they can trust these sweet looking ladies. Given the chance any working girl all over the world would rob you blind. Once when I was in Beijing I met a cool girl in the bar. She had her own car. Once inside the room I locked up my valuables in the safe deposit box in full view of the girl without her seeing the combination. I was staying at beijing International hotel. She did take offence and asked me about it. I told her it is my usual routine and it did not relect on her. Ofcourse given the opportunity she would have cleaned me up.

I had a gf in Thailand and I trusted her enough that she carried all my money and wallet whenever we went out. She was so thorough that she would doublecheck all bills and did not pay any tips because in Thailand nobody pays tips according to her. She is one of a million I suppose.[/QUOTE]Yes, another member of this forum did get ripped off and a very good friend of mine. He won't say anything but this has totally fucked his holiday and I don't think he will come back. At least he is paying bar fines now.

As you can imagine my circle of friends is very small so I just get to hear a few cases. There must be so many more farangs getting the same treatment.

Be careful out there and pay the bar fines. They are not that much and at least provide some kind of safety net.

Reached Bangkok last Sunday and took the Bell service bus to Pattaya. Good service and got dropped at my hotel. Tim Boutique.

The hotel was nice but looked expensive at 2200 baht per night. GF friendly and very friendly atmosphere.

I had done RTFF and hence had planned the important places to be visited.

X- Zone. Was good with some shows which had the customers involved in Fisting / Banana eating from the pussy etc. Good to watch.

Baccara na dSuper baby were also having some good girls but got a bit bored as all the girls wanted to have bar fined for ST for 2500 baht. Wasnt interested and as suggested in the Forum, picked up a FL from walking street for 2000 for LT.

Turned out to be total starfish and cut short to ST for 1300.

2nd day visited the famous PP massage for soapy. Pretty much mechanical stuff but had the minimum service level for 1800. The girl was hurrying as she was a bit experienced but the basic services of CBJ, Shower and then doggy were fine.

Then went to some more gogos and around 1am landed at one at soi 6. Just before the silver star gogo. Nice ambinece and the girls were having a Jacussi show.

Called the Show girl for LD and she was Awesome. Probably drunk a bit but was so good that it got embarrasing as she did everything possible at the bar and was pushing for ST.

Did the same at 1400 inclusinve of barfine and the room and was great. Her name was Fern and is strongly recommended.

Also visited Coral island. Parasaliing and under sea walk. All for 2000. Worth it for sure.

Overall great 2 days spent at Pattaya and hopefully would be back sometime in the next Few! Years.

Bangkok report in the Bangkok thread.

Wow, with this.not entirely serious- Beach Road comment I started quiet something. Thanks for all the honest opinions. I personally recommend not to get drunk, actually wherever you are:

1. It makes you a potential victim (see the posts) ;

2. It makes you look even more foolish than you are regularly;

And best of all:

3. You don't really know anymore when you are having serious fun, the kind we are looking for.

Keep it up, fellow mongers, and leave the gold watch and chain at home, the girls couldn't care less anyway.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1231329]Keep it up, fellow mongers, and leave the gold watch and chain at home, the girls couldn't care less anyway.[/QUOTE]Good advice, you can buy a nice looking fake watch for 500 baht or less, no need to wear a genuine Rolex.

OK, this reads a little weird, in a perverted way, I am sorry:

Yesterday afternoon I passed on the motorbike near the covered market on South Pattaya Road, near Wat Chai Mongkon a sexy girl, maybe 3-4 ft. Tall, max. Imagine the possibilities! She wore a cool straw hat and looked hot. Because of the traffic I couldn't pull over, by the time I was able to make a U she was gone. Anybody know her or where she can be found?

[QUOTE=Frankfurter; 1231337]OK, this reads a little weird, in a perverted way, I am sorry:

Yesterday afternoon I passed on the motorbike near the covered market on South Pattaya Road, near what Chai Mongkon a sexy girl, maybe 3-4 ft. Tall, max. Imagine the possibilities! She wore a cool straw hat and looked hot. Because of the traffic I couldn't pull over, by the time I was able to make a U she was gone. Anybody know her or where she can be found?[/QUOTE]Yeah sure then you can ask already if someone have see a black hair girl. If you have no photo (what you not have) I think you can forget it, the only thing would be you go everyday there. You have see where she was, so it is a good chance you will find she there again. But it can be she have come only to visit someone and she is already gone.

So if you have time go there around the time you have passed when after 1 week you not find here I would sugest you give up.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter;1230955]What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .[/QUOTE]Can't help there I'm afraid! I've been in town three days now and each afternoon, and evening till late, whenever I've passed along Beach Road not a single FL to be found! There

Doesn't seem to be a greater number of them in Walking Street either, so I've no idea where they've gone! Is this new market a permanent feature now does anyone know? I

Asked a stall holder how long it will be going on for and she said 'Long time'. Not sure what she meant by that. Unless she was a FL in disguise LOL!

Pity really, I have had some real gems from there over the years!

[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1231305]Yes, another member of this forum did get ripped off and a very good friend of mine. He won't say anything but this has totally fucked his holiday and I don't think he will come back. At least he is paying bar fines now.

As you can imagine my circle of friends is very small so I just get to hear a few cases. There must be so many more farangs getting the same treatment.

Be careful out there and pay the bar fines. They are not that much and at least provide some kind of safety net.[/QUOTE]Barfining does not protect you from sticky fingered girls or girls who will slip drugs in your drink. Yes, you can complain but rarely any bars will take action in the absence of evidence. They might listen to your sad.

Story, offer a free drink. That is about it.

All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.

One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.

After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.

Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!

I attached a picture so you can stay clear of her in the future!

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1231430]Barfining does not protect you from sticky fingered girls or girls who will slip drugs in your drink. Yes, you can complain but rarely any bars will take action in the absence of evidence. They might listen to your sad.

Story, offer a free drink. That is about it.[/QUOTE]Not true.

When you bar fine a girl, you know where she works and the police can identify and locate her if she comits a crime at your expense. She's going to be a lot less inclined to rip you off as she can be arrested and / or lose her job. You don't have that advantage with Coconut Bar girls.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1231529]Not true.

When you bar fine a girl, you know where she works and the police can identify and locate her if she comits a crime at your expense. She's going to be a lot less inclined to rip you off as she can be arrested and / or lose her job. You don't have that advantage with Coconut Bar girls.[/QUOTE]Having any girl in your room is a risk. Your comments are true, but only if they want to believe your story.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1231557]Having any girl in your room is a risk. Your comments are true, but only if they want to believe your story.[/QUOTE]Oh, they'll believe Daddy. He is a well known Pattaya "Bon Vivant."

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1231564]Oh, they'll believe Daddy. He is a well known Pattaya "Bon Vivant."[/QUOTE]OK, thanks, that does make a difference. Lucky him.

Speaking of security issues, on two occasions the phone did not ring in my room after pleasurable sessions. When I went to the lobby some hours later my "friend" at reception said "Why you not answer your phone after lady go?"

Hmmm. Maybe I was drugged or dead. Why you not come find out? The wire in the bottom of the phone was not fully engaged.

A belated addendum to complement Tomjackin's fine report.

It was my first time in Pattaya and I flew in on Air Asia. Fine airline with great rates from within Asia.

I stayed at the Sheraton Resort which has it's pros and cons. Pros. Beautiful resort with a quiet setting, three pools and bungalow-like rooms. My particular room had an ocean view, his / hers bathrooms, a waterfall bathtub and a private patio overlooking a pool. Cons. It's far from central Pattaya and the action, free shuttles only run about 6 times a day and a cab will cost you 200 baht each way. But I can tell you it's girl friendly. I made note to arrive with girls at the front of the driveway and walk down the path to my room directly, avoiding the lobby walk-of-shame route.

As for the action, I was hoping to enjoy the FLs on Beach Road the way that Sushilover and other have recently. But I didn't have the luck that Sushi and others did with BR and FLs. In fact over the 5 days I didn't find anyone on BR that I found worth bringing home.

Soi 6, 7.8 were also similarly disappointing. As Tomjackin and I found out, the attitudes of the girls and LBs on 6, 7.8 are just plain sour. Not sure why, but everyone seems to be pissed off or not interested in having fun.

So that leaves Walking Street and other joints around Soi 13. Soi 13/3 was mostly fun because we made Sin Bin our home base. It was great having a place to relax among friends like Ian and a growing cast of characters around there. A regular relaxing meal, Thai or English was always on tap. Also legit massage was available across the street for 200b per hour. A great place to relax between WS forays.

Onto WS, where the best times were to be had. The scene there is pretty overwhelming, it's like Soi Cowboy in Bangkok times ten. Everything is there in your face as you stumble down the main street with Baccarat, Insomnia, etc. And then continue down it's back alleys to find X zone or Champion or Baron.

Some notable successes were, as Tomjackin mentioned, the daughter / niece of the mamasan of Champion. After wavering a bit, Tomjackin was kind enough to send her home with me. Turned out to be the best experience of my trip, pure GFE with an 18 yo, classy young lady. A second round in the morning complete with CIM settled things nicely. Money was not mentioned the entire time, nonetheless I stuffed some bills in her purse just before dropping her at her hotel.

There were a few not so great experiences notably a bargirl from Soi 8 Lucky Bar who apparently is the only working girl in Pattaya who doesn't offer BJ (not even CBJ) and left at 6am the next morning with no second round.

On the plus side there were the fun times chasing girls with Tomjackin and Ian at various venues. Some of the finest gentlemen I've had the pleasure of hobbying with. As mentioned before, my last night with Tomjackin and 4 girls at Insomnia was an epic of drunken debauchery. We ended drinking and dancing until the place closed, then each of us left with two girls back to our respective hotels. The most interesting part to me was taking home the girls who initially looked like shy civilians, that is non-working girls. The sister of the brat and her skinny friend looked and dressed completely like straight girls. Even mentioning the topic of sleeping over seemed awkward. The skinny friend especially seemed timid and proper. But as the night wore on, and the whisky shots flowed, skinny girl and the sister became wilder dancers and up for a proper grinding. Very fun watching this transformation, with the coup de grace coming as we tore off on motorcycle taxis with our pro and am girls in tow.

Other notable girls:

"Yellow Shirt" a friend of the very cute young waitress at Sin Bin. She strolled into Sin Bin wearing a ginormous yellow tshirt and I didn't take much notice of her until she lifted the shirt revealing a rocking tight body in a cocktail dress. Tomjackin and I looked at each other and both said,"I'd tap that!" Unfortunately she was off to her job taking polaroids on Soi 8, then later Insomnia. We found her at Insomnia but she was in her own estimate too drunk to do anything. Next day we were looking for her on Soi 8, but eventually found her as we rode in the back of those pickup truck taxis. She rode up to us in her scooter and flirted shamelessly, but again we could never sample those sweet goods.

"No 20" dancer at Baccarat. Closest I'd seen to a 10 in Pattaya. Over the course of the week, I'd learned (and Tomjackin stronglyy reminded me) that to hesitate is to lose in Pattaya. Thus I immediately called her over intending to barfine her unless she had a completely negative vibe. She was sweet and lovely, but to my chagrin I learned she had already been barfined and was waiting for her customer to return for the pickup. So unfair! If anyone has experience or pics of her please do share or PM me.

Baron girls. Two lovely young spinners here. One I would not take because she had no I'd. The other one, lives at home and would not go LT as she had to return home at some point in the night / morning.

Sometimes, the ones that get away are more memorable than bad or mediocre experiences. The good company and experiences in Pattaya more than merit a return visit.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1230873]Sin Bin on Soi 13/3 was base camp for the entire stay. If you ever get a chance to stop by and meet the owner, Ian, do so. I met up with fellow monger GargantaProfunda (Gill) and Sin Bin is where we usually started and ended; place never seems to close. I've also fished for women from this bar, as they walk back and forth on the Soi, and had good success in the process.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1231451]All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.

One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.

After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.

Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!

I attached a picture so you can stay clear of her in the future![/QUOTE]Hate this situation. But unavoidable and shit happens. Been in similar situations many times. Throwing a 1000 to get her out is the best action to me given the situation. Too bad you couldn't smell it before hand. I would have gone out and got another sure fire one to make up for the night. Cheers and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1231451]All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.

One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.

After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.

Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!

I attached a picture so you can stay clear of her in the future![/QUOTE]Ok, she is in the jacuzzi naked and wants 1k? Did you negotiate to bang her for that? She looks pretty hot and worth a 1k shag to me. Maybe I will try and find her on my next trip.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1231720]Ok, she is in the jacuzzi naked and wants 1k? Did you negotiate to bang her for that? She looks pretty hot and worth a 1k shag to me. Maybe I will try and find her on my next trip.[/QUOTE]This is my 1st post, but been avid reader for a long time.

Mr Luvpuss;

I note your frequent posts for the last 50 pages or so, both here and in BKK thread.

Most of your posts are commentary on OTHER peoples contributions, offering either ridicule or belittlement. People don't enjoy this. They only appreciate original useful reports. You contributed none.

Your entries to me, and to many others, no doubt, are extremely irritating. Don't you think that this forum is not really suited for you. You may wish to find an alternative site that suit your attitude.

Are you from India?

I would have to agree about Soi 6. It seems like the quality is much lower than you see in pics on here. However, due to my liking of older ladies I was able to get a very kind and sexy long legged 30yo girl. Upstairs in Halifax she was extremely GF and asked me to go play snooker with her at Willys Hangout. Then the next day I made arrangements for a morning shag with her. Over she came and once again very good. We decided to head over to her bar via a nice massage at some place on 2nd road. Whilst there she found out she won 15000 baht on the lottery. Well! She paid for my drinks all night and insisted on coming LT with me. Up to you rates.

This is the kinda girl that makes the hobby so enjoyable. I would take one like her over a 19 year old grumpy / up herself ***** anyday.

Speaking of which. And no she's not that sort. I went to Sapphire agogo and BFed a 19 year old with really nice bolt on tits. Her name is Ique. She has really short hair which she cut herself (looks great). For me she broke the stereotype above. Let me have a really good go in many positions. The only letdown was a lack of English on her part but you could easily say its equally my fault. I speak no Thai at all. Got her number. No pics though!

I do have a good pic or two of the older one above. Just don't have the heart to put it on the forums. PM me and I will send it.

4 More days in Pattaya to go. Loving every second!

Edited to add this about Windmill...I love the place. How cant you? Naked chicks doing all kindsa wild shit. Blew a couple of thousand baht on drinks there with a mate. Very memorable indeed.

Hatguy

[QUOTE=JimmyBates; 1231824]This is my 1st post, but been avid reader for a long time.

Mr Luvpuss;

I note your frequent posts for the last 50 pages or so, both here and in BKK thread.

Most of your posts are commentary on OTHER peoples contributions, offering either ridicule or belittlement. People don't enjoy this. They only appreciate original useful reports. You contributed none.

Your entries to me, and to many others, no doubt, are extremely irritating. Don't you think that this forum is not really suited for you. You may wish to find an alternative site that suit your attitude.

Are you from India?[/QUOTE]Get a life loser. You are a joke racist. If you don't like it, then don't read it, Mr. 1 post.

Since there's been a string of posts recently complaining how better things were at other times, here is my contribution:

Last night I went to the BB on 2nd Road only to find the place a pale shade of its former self. No girls dancing, behind me BGs arguing with a customer, the place almost empty. One beauty with a tag saying: 'Pancake', 'Pole Dancer' came by my table and I asked her why don't you dance? She only shrugged and went away. Does anybody has intel on this?

The BB was for at least some six years my favored bar. Man, what memories I have of the super nice parties they used to have. Maybe I picked the wrong evening but I decided to spend New Year's somewhere else.

[QUOTE=JimmyBates; 1231824]This is my 1st post, but been avid reader for a long time.

Mr Luvpuss;

I note your frequent posts for the last 50 pages or so, both here and in BKK thread.

Most of your posts are commentary on OTHER peoples contributions, offering either ridicule or belittlement. People don't enjoy this. They only appreciate original useful reports. You contributed none.

Your entries to me, and to many others, no doubt, are extremely irritating. Don't you think that this forum is not really suited for you. You may wish to find an alternative site that suit your attitude.

Are you from India?[/QUOTE]Ditto! Number of posts don't mean a damn thing. But quality does!

My Pattaya friend and freeby.

From a date site

[QUOTE=Frankfurter; 1231913]Since there's been a string of posts recently complaining how better things were at other times, here is my contribution:

Last night I went to the BB on 2nd Road only to find the place a pale shade of its former self.[/QUOTE]Never rated the place myself, by the way I think Buffalo Bar is actually on Third Road.

Since I visited Pattaya for the first time I want to give a short report, since nothing totally new to report.

To my suprise the whole place seems to be a major Russian tourist destination.

Propaply as a result of that prices in the clubs are at the same level as in any other big city in asia (Shanghai, Hong kong etc)

I was there with a friend and did way too much partying to focus on the mongering aspect. Still a blast but not in a sexual way.

What I did try was Devils den. The manager told only threesoms. Ok, with me. The line up was not that good compared to my usual playgrounds (Hongkong, Macau, Shanghai).

But to cuties were among them. In the room I was a little disapointed. For a place that specialises in threesoms it was not really worth it. The girls did as asked but nothing more.

I also visited the body amssage places Honey and the onse up at SOI 2, Swati something. There is 3 very close together. I went to all three. The girls were also not very good looking but

Very good at the body massage part and soso in bed. All compaint about my size and none did a BBBJ.

I went only to 2 gogos. Moon and Happy.

I came to moon at 3 am and had a lot of fun with 3 girls dancing kissis and feeling each other up but the one I asked to go home with me told me she can't. Well the drinks cost me 2000 but I had a lot of fun for about 3 hours and went.

Home at 6.

I wasnt before the 5th day before me and my friend bf a gril from a gogo. This time in happy we enjoyed the show and took some girls at round 2. We took them to I somnia first and danced till about 4 then home.

I had a nice girl but neither a GFE nor PSE.

Next day was more or less the same only that we went to candyshop, I cafe, I somina and then to a thai KTV somewhere in the middle of the city that we left at around 7 am.

We only had sex for about 2 hours before I had to start packing at about 10 we took a taxi to the airport.

My summary:

- The average girls in the bars and gogos are well average in looks, no where near the average of sauna girls in Shanghai and Macau.

- service wise they are obidient but nowhere near the GFE that I got for example from a philipine girl on my 3 days in Macau after my Thailand trip.

- The Russian tourists are mostly hotter then the thai girls.

- the masiv quanity of girls still gives you a good chance of finding something you like

- to my suprise it seems a lot of guys can't tell the difference between a ladyboy and a girl I was still in a bar with a restaurant linked to it watch 2 indian guys negotiating with a LB.

For about 30 minutes, until 2 other indian guys sitting in the restaurant called the guys over and told them that they were talking to a LB. Totaly suprised the guys went back to the LB.

And asked them something and left totaly stunned, funny as hell if you just still on walking street seee these kinf of things.

- Pattaya is a party city, I never went to bed before 5 am, maybe that affected my view on the mongering scene since I simply had not enough time or was too drunk.

But for me the final result still stands. For stunner I prefere Macao saunas, for GFE Hong Kong or Macau Bars and discos.

(to be continued in the Macao section)

[QUOTE=Hotshanehot; 1232225]My Pattaya friend and freeby.

From a date site[/QUOTE]Not bad. A little heavy, but I would do her.

Went to windmill last night. The place is just a cracker for me. Out of all the places I went to this was by far the best. I have the girls two drinks each and they both started heavy touching and more. One even looked at me with mischievous smile and wanted to blow me at the table!

Seriosly guys! Buy them a drink it really opens them up. I got to go! One is waiting in my bed. LOL

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1232418]Since I visited Pattaya for the first time I want to give a short report, since nothing totally new to report.

To my suprise the whole place seems to be a major Russian tourist destination.

Propaply as a result of that prices in the clubs are at the same level as in any other big city in asia (Shanghai, Hong kong etc)

I was there with a friend and did way too much partying to focus on the mongering aspect. Still a blast but not in a sexual way.

What I did try was Devils den. The manager told only threesoms. Ok, with me. The line up was not that good compared to my usual playgrounds (Hongkong, Macau, Shanghai).

But to cuties were among them. In the room I was a little disapointed. For a place that specialises in threesoms it was not really worth it. The girls did as asked but nothing more.

I also visited the body amssage places Honey and the onse up at SOI 2, Swati something. There is 3 very close together. I went to all three. The girls were also not very good looking but

Very good at the body massage part and soso in bed. All compaint about my size and none did a BBBJ.

I went only to 2 gogos. Moon and Happy.

I came to moon at 3 am and had a lot of fun with 3 girls dancing kissis and feeling each other up but the one I asked to go home with me told me she can't. Well the drinks cost me 2000 but I had a lot of fun for about 3 hours and went.

Home at 6.

I wasnt before the 5th day before me and my friend bf a gril from a gogo. This time in happy we enjoyed the show and took some girls at round 2. We took them to I somnia first and danced till about 4 then home.

I had a nice girl but neither a GFE nor PSE.

Next day was more or less the same only that we went to candyshop, I cafe, I somina and then to a thai KTV somewhere in the middle of the city that we left at around 7 am.

We only had sex for about 2 hours before I had to start packing at about 10 we took a taxi to the airport.

My summary:

- The average girls in the bars and gogos are well average in looks, no where near the average of sauna girls in Shanghai and Macau.

- service wise they are obidient but nowhere near the GFE that I got for example from a philipine girl on my 3 days in Macau after my Thailand trip.

- The Russian tourists are mostly hotter then the thai girls.

- the masiv quanity of girls still gives you a good chance of finding something you like

- to my suprise it seems a lot of guys can't tell the difference between a ladyboy and a girl I was still in a bar with a restaurant linked to it watch 2 indian guys negotiating with a LB.

For about 30 minutes, until 2 other indian guys sitting in the restaurant called the guys over and told them that they were talking to a LB. Totaly suprised the guys went back to the LB.

And asked them something and left totaly stunned, funny as hell if you just still on walking street seee these kinf of things.

- Pattaya is a party city, I never went to bed before 5 am, maybe that affected my view on the mongering scene since I simply had not enough time or was too drunk.

But for me the final result still stands. For stunner I prefere Macao saunas, for GFE Hong Kong or Macau Bars and discos.

(to be continued in the Macao section) [/QUOTE]Hey man, you are right. Go to HK and Mac. For a true mongering experience.

Just to add my personal experience to the recent posts regarding problems with Thai girls. I've been coming to Pattaya for a few years and never had any problems until last week when I picked up a girl on the beach close to the Royal Garden Plaza. She spoke very good English and was very friendly and touchy. We agreed a price of 1, 500 Baht for long time. She came back to my hotel and her mood seemed to change as soon as we entered reception who asked for her I'd card. She didn't have it and they had a heated exchange in Thai. At the end of it the hotel Manager said he would let her up to my room as long I guaranteed her. At this point she got all touchy again and I assumed everything would be OK. In my room her mood changed again and the first thing she said was pay me now. I told her I would pay later in the way I always do. No, no, no she said. I didn't like her attitude and told her she'the better leave. You pay me now or I not leave. I offered her 200 Baht as I thought that should be OK for walking me to my hotel. She picked up a glass and threw it at my head. Luckily I ducked and the glass smashed into the wall causing no damage. I grabbed the room phone and called Reception to send Security to my room. I had to restrain her whilst I did this. After the call she broke free and started throwing things at me. She also pushed the television of its stand where it crashed to the floor. Security arrived and took her out of my room and downstairs where she broke free and ran away. This shook me up. The police came and took a report but they didn't seem to think they could find the girl. I decided to check out and head for Bangkok. The hotel charged me for a new TV and a few other damages.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1231575]Speaking of security issues, on two occasions the phone did not ring in my room after pleasurable sessions. When I went to the lobby some hours later my "friend" at reception said "Why you not answer your phone after lady go?"

Hmmm. Maybe I was drugged or dead. Why you not come find out? The wire in the bottom of the phone was not fully engaged.[/QUOTE]One girl had promised to say with me for LT, but at around 5AM her phone starts ringing and she throws a fit and decides that she has to leave but will come back in one hour. I told her that was fine and when she is back in one hour she can sleep in my room, and after our morning session when we wake up she can collect her money for LT. She wants payment now, to which I respond that she hasn't been with me for very long and we have only done it once so that is ST and not LT. After a bit or arguing she is so rushed that she agrees, and leaves with the ST money.

Being a bit drunk, and also irritated since she was a stunner and I wanted to do her some more and also take some pictures of her I decided to mess with her a bit more, so when reception calls my room I walk out on the balcony and stay there. Phone keeps ringing and I ignore it. After about five minutes there is a knock on my door and it is hotel security checking that I am ok, he calls downstairs and they release the girl. I go back to my balcony and watch her leave and jump in the car that is waiting for her, smile at her and wave "good bye". She gives me the finger, I just give her a big smile back. And surprise surprise, she did not return to finish of the LT session.

[QUOTE=BigClive225;1232606]Just to add my personal experience to the recent posts regarding problems with Thai girls. I've been coming to Pattaya for a few years and never had any problems until last week when I picked up a girl on the beach close to the Royal Garden Plaza. She spoke very good English and was very friendly and touchy. We agreed a price of 1, 500 Baht for long time. She came back to my hotel and her mood seemed to change as soon as we entered reception who asked for her I'd card. She didn't have it and they had a heated exchange in Thai. At the end of it the hotel Manager said he would let her up to my room as long I guaranteed her. At this point she got all touchy again and I assumed everything would be OK. In my room her mood changed again and the first thing she said was pay me now. I told her I would pay later in the way I always do. No, no, no she said. I didn't like her attitude and told her she'the better leave. You pay me now or I not leave. I offered her 200 Baht as I thought that should be OK for walking me to my hotel. She picked up a glass and threw it at my head. Luckily I ducked and the glass smashed into the wall causing no damage. I grabbed the room phone and called Reception to send Security to my room. I had to restrain her whilst I did this. After the call she broke free and started throwing things at me. She also pushed the television of its stand where it crashed to the floor. Security arrived and took her out of my room and downstairs where she broke free and ran away. This shook me up. The police came and took a report but they didn't seem to think they could find the girl. I decided to check out and head for Bangkok. The hotel charged me for a new TV and a few other damages.[/QUOTE]After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.

Mistake 1:1500 LT? FL is 1000 LT (less if you can manage it).

Mistake 2: You wanted to take a BR girl for LT. BR girls are for ST and to be consumed at the ST hotel.

Mistake 3: You put your dick / wallet on the line by guaranteeing a hooker who you didn't know from Adam and have now become a statistic of why that should never be done.

Mistake 4: You offered her 200 baht. I don't care if she walked from Chiang Mai; if we didn't fuck she is not getting money. She knew from the beginning that she did not have ID. But now you know to make sure the girl has ID before you go on any long walks with her.

Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.

You must have been thinking with your dick on this one. Then too hindsight is 20/20. They called the police over this incident. Does that mean we will see you on Pattaya Daily News? LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1232774]Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.[/QUOTE]I think your assessment is basiclly sound, except for #5. No way should he forcefully lay hands on a crazy ho under those circumstances if he values his own life. He should have left the room himself and gone for security. She would then probably follow him out the door rather than wait for security to come for her.

All the vender booths are gone from Beach road now, but yesterday in the afternoon the number and quality of ladies was low. Hopefully things will improve now.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1232774]After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.

Mistake 1:1500 LT? FL is 1000 LT (less if you can manage it).

Mistake 2: You wanted to take a BR girl for LT. BR girls are for ST and to be consumed at the ST hotel.

Mistake 3: You put your dick / wallet on the line by guaranteeing a hooker who you didn't know from Adam and have now become a statistic of why that should never be done.

Mistake 4: You offered her 200 baht. I don't care if she walked from Chiang Mai; if we didn't fuck she is not getting money. She knew from the beginning that she did not have I'd. But now you know to make sure the girl has I'd before you go on any long walks with her.

Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.

You must have been thinking with your dick on this one. Then too hindsight is 20/20. They called the police over this incident. Does that mean we will see you on Pattaya Daily News? LOL.[/QUOTE]So I let my guard down Mr. E and made mistakes. Unfortunately I don't have a military background and let my dick rule my wallet. But isn't this what most people do in Pattaya? Isn't this why most people come to Pattaya? Or is Pattaya now a battleground where people should come with a battle plan instead of an enjoyment plan?

I don't mind paying the girls and I never try to squeeze the price down. Normally I pay bar fines and I can't remember having any problems with any girls I've taken from any bars.

My step by step plan is now.

Step 1. Enjoy myself.

Step 2. Pay the bar fine.

Step 3. Fuck the girl.

Step 4. Pay the girl.

The girls have changed and I wonder if this is this down to the different breed of tourists coming here now not willing to pay for the services the girls provide?

20/20 hindsight. The media were not involved but I'm beginning to think they should have a 24/7 channel set up just to show reports like this with you as the presenter pointing out the farang mistakes and how you the expert would deal with them (LOL).

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1232774]After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.[/QUOTE]So another farang takes a hit and you have offered some sound advice. But maybe you learnt the tricks for survival in Brazil and now you're here possibly priced out of the Brazilian market. Quite a few have and me as well but what works for you doesn't work for others. You sound like a street wise, fit, young guy and you should be making this clear in your posts as what works for you will not work for everybody. Apples for Apples. Not everybody coming to Pattaya is street wise, fit and especially young. Take a 70 year old guy being attacked by one of these beach road girls. If you want to flirt with danger then never pay a bar fine. If you want some protection then pay the bar fine.

[QUOTE=Punter 127;1232930]All the vender booths are gone from Beach road now, but yesterday in the afternoon the number and quality of ladies was low. Hopefully things will improve now.[/QUOTE]Don't hold your breath Punter 127. The offerings were dire all of last year and I can't see it changing this year. You might find a diamond in the rough but it could take a very long time. They are just not here anymore.

[QUOTE=Punter 127;1232930]All the vender booths are gone from Beach road now, but yesterday in the afternoon the number and quality of ladies was low. Hopefully things will improve now.[/QUOTE]Good news and I hope you are right. Will be there on the 26th and Beach Road is my happy hunting ground.

[QUOTE=BigClive225; 1232937]So I let my guard down Mr. E and made mistakes. Unfortunately I don't have a military background and let my dick rule my wallet. But isn't this what most people do in Pattaya? Isn't this why most people come to Pattaya? Or is Pattaya now a battleground where people should come with a battle plan instead of an enjoyment plan?

I don't mind paying the girls and I never try to squeeze the price down. Normally I pay bar fines and I can't remember having any problems with any girls I've taken from any bars.

My step by step plan is now.

Step 1. Enjoy myself.

Step 2. Pay the bar fine.

Step 3. Fuck the girl.

Step 4. Pay the girl.

The girls have changed and I wonder if this is this down to the different breed of tourists coming here now not willing to pay for the services the girls provide?

20/20 hindsight. The media were not involved but I'm beginning to think they should have a 24/7 channel set up just to show reports like this with you as the presenter pointing out the farang mistakes and how you the expert would deal with them (LOL).[/QUOTE]I agree with most of what you are saying about having a good time. But, I do think a smart monger should have some sort of a battle plan when entering Pattaya. If not, you can find yourself, broke, robbed, the victim of theft, beat up, ripped off, getting an STD, etc. If you have some sort of plan, not too overly strict, you can have a safe, financially responsible awesome time.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1233087]I agree with most of what you are saying about having a good time. But, I do think a smart monger should have some sort of a battle plan when entering Pattaya. If not, you can find yourself, broke, robbed, the victim of theft, beat up, ripped off, getting an STD, etc. If you have some sort of plan, not too overly strict, you can have a safe, financially responsible awesome time.[/QUOTE]Battle Plan equals Pay the Bar Fine. I'm still pissed about buying a new TV that I will never watch.

Hi guys!

Can you explain me why euro / bath exchance is so bad this year?

41 compared to 48 in 2011. This is going to be a rip-off!

Anybody who's into this can forecast wheter is it getting better or worse by the end of the month?

(I am supposed to land on 25th Jan).

Thanks

It's bad because of the banking crisis in Europe. The Euro had a terrible year against all currencies, last year. It is 30 baht to a US$ now, and was 40 baht to a US$ when I was there last (6 years ago).

No one can predict what it will do by the end of the month. That is a skill that would be worth millions$.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1233133]Hi guys!

Can you explain me why euro / bath exchance is so bad this year?

41 compared to 48 in 2011. This is going to be a rip-off!

Anybody who's into this can forecast wheter is it getting better or worse by the end of the month?

(I am supposed to land on 25th Jan).

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio; 1233190]It's bad because of the banking crisis in Europe. The Euro had a terrible year against all currencies, last year. It is 30 baht to a US$ now, and was 40 baht to a US$ when I was there last (6 years ago).

No one can predict what it will do by the end of the month. That is a skill that would be worth millions$.[/QUOTE]To Horatio,

My first trip to BBK is 1995 the USD rate is one to 28 bht but every thing is so much cheaper then 1200 bht for nice hotel a night in Bangkok 500 bht in the flipper lodge

In Pattaya and you can get st in Bangkok for 400 bht and all nighter in Pattaya for 500 bht at the disco.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=BigClive225;1232937]So I let my guard down Mr. E and made mistakes. Unfortunately I don't have a military background and let my dick rule my wallet. But isn't this what most people do in Pattaya? Isn't this why most people come to Pattaya? Or is Pattaya now a battleground where people should come with a battle plan instead of an enjoyment plan?[/QUOTE]It's all about experiences. You will look back on it a couple of years from now and start laughing and say that was some crazy shit that happened. I know I have done that plenty of times.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1232946]So another farang takes a hit and you have offered some sound advice. But maybe you learnt the tricks for survival in Brazil and now you're here possibly priced out of the Brazilian market. Quite a few have and me as well but what works for you doesn't work for others. You sound like a street wise, fit, young guy and you should be making this clear in your posts as what works for you will not work for everybody. Apples for Apples. Not everybody coming to Pattaya is street wise, fit and especially young. Take a 70 year old guy being attacked by one of these beach road girls. If you want to flirt with danger then never pay a bar fine. If you want some protection then pay the bar fine.[/QUOTE]Exactly Sangkid. There are many roads that lead to Rome. What works for one or is most efficient for one may not be the same for another. In the end the big picture is supposed to be getting some pussy. But how you do that is no one size fits all. Thank goodness we have many readily available options. I grew up in Atlanta and was DJing at the strip club and pimping when I was 17, so gogo bars are really boring to me. I don't drink much so the bars are out. Besides, I have a pretty big selection of alcohol in my room for those occasions when I want a drink or when females come over and want a drink. (Funny thing: I can count on one hand how many times women in Pattaya have come over and have actually wanted a drink. I guess they are more club drinkers and not real drinkers. The most common thing the pros say is that they have to drink to go with a man otherwise they could never do it. After the first time I never see them drink around me.) Even if I do go to a bar for a few minutes and see a girl (or mamasan) I like I can always convince her to call or come after work, so I have never paid a bar fine. But I'm 39 and pretty much a disco FL and non-pro guy. BTW, I moved from Rio to Pattaya. My rent in Rio had more than doubled on exchange rate alone (from $500 to over $1000) and FL pussy more than quadrupled going from anywhere between $25 and $75 to $100 basement bottom minimum. And when that happens it is time to get the fuck away. I pay $150 in Pattaya and if this place ever goes under I guess I will (try to) settle down.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1232976]Don't hold your breath Punter 127. The offerings were dire all of last year and I can't see it changing this year. You might find a diamond in the rough but it could take a very long time. They are just not here anymore.[/QUOTE]Where have they gone? Pattaya Beer Garden in the day? Walking Street at night?

[QUOTE=Sainter21;1233272]Where have they gone? Pattaya Beer Garden in the day? Walking Street at night?[/QUOTE]Another perhaps more important question is why have they gone? I was here in April and October and this is by far the worst I've seen.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1232774]After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.

Mistake 1:1500 LT? FL is 1000 LT (less if you can manage it).

Mistake 2: You wanted to take a BR girl for LT. BR girls are for ST and to be consumed at the ST hotel.

Mistake 3: You put your dick / wallet on the line by guaranteeing a hooker who you didn't know from Adam and have now become a statistic of why that should never be done.

Mistake 4: You offered her 200 baht. I don't care if she walked from Chiang Mai; if we didn't fuck she is not getting money. She knew from the beginning that she did not have I'd. But now you know to make sure the girl has I'd before you go on any long walks with her.

Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.

You must have been thinking with your dick on this one. Then too hindsight is 20/20. They called the police over this incident. Does that mean we will see you on Pattaya Daily News? LOL.[/QUOTE]As they say, time is money. I had a situation my last trip in September with having a girl sit with me for quite a bit of time drinking and generally having a good time. Of course it didn't help that I'd had her ST the night before. I didn't think anything of it, but when I went to leave alone, she created enough of a scene that I chose to pay her to STF up, LOL. A man's got to do what a man's got to do. Actually my
preference is to sit and have drinks with a girl to feel her out before taking the plunge. I would never just pick one from the street.

But that's just me.

I also noticed the crowd on WS was much different my last time down. Many more Indian (Pakistanies, Indians, etc) nationalities were in groups trying to negotiate the girls down. Come to learn from one of the bar girls that they don't really like going with those folks and will ask a higher price. Plus I'm sure the girls weren't comfortable with one guy negotiating and three or four others looking at her like it was their last fuck before they go to the land of virgins. As an white American, I had no problems getting the quality of girl I wanted at normal prices noted in other posts.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1233266]. My rent in Rio had more than doubled on exchange rate alone (from $500 to over $1000) and FL pussy more than quadrupled going from anywhere between $25 and $75 to $100 basement bottom minimum. And when that happens it is time to get the fuck away. I pay $150 in Pattaya and if this place ever goes under I guess I will (try to) settle down.[/QUOTE]You pay $ 150 for a monthly rent in Pattaya? That's a very good deal!

[quote]The BB was for at least some six years my favored bar. Man, what memories I have of the super nice parties they used to have. Maybe I picked the wrong evening but I decided to spend New Year's somewhere else.[/quote]I had a chance to cut my teeth in Pattaya in the mid 80s through 90s. Some of my best times there.

A year ago was my last time there and I had a hard time finding anything on BR I liked.

I hadn't done many High Seasons and maybe that was part of it. Bars were filled but it was mostly tourists.

Still had a few gems but many times I saw something looking good / fresh wasn't a real woman. Hehheh.

I normally go for spinners so this girl is a little bigger than I like, but she seems like a nice girl. And those boobs are wet, for you guys who like that kind of thing, she's 'Got Milk'.

Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1233464]Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.[/QUOTE]LBM Private Eye at your service? $$$

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1233464]Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.[/QUOTE]Is it about a girl?

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1233650]Is it about a girl?[/QUOTE]PM me if your serious, or anyone that can help me out.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1233748]PM me if your serious, or anyone that can help me out.[/QUOTE]A PM was sent to you.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1233464]Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.[/QUOTE]Dude, if it about a girl and you have some reservation than save yourself the money and move on.

Dear members

I am visiting Pattaya from 29 jan to 5feb 2012

Kindly tell me whether lk empress is gf.

And also you opinon about sea me springs on soi 10 [with open sewage repair work going on ]

Thanking you all for wonderfull reports

Yours manliraj

[QUOTE=El Cubanito;1233873]Dude, if it about a girl and you have some reservation than save yourself the money and move on.[/QUOTE]Same with most things in life. If you have to ask the question then you already know the answer.

[QUOTE=Manliraj; 1233924]Dear members

I am visiting Pattaya from 29 jan to 5feb 2012

Kindly tell me whether lk empress is gf.

And also you opinon about sea me springs on soi 10 [with open sewage repair work going on ]

Thanking you all for wonderfull reports

Yours manliraj[/QUOTE]I have stayed at just about all the LK hotels and they have all been GF. Just email them to try and confirm.

Sea Me Springs is GF and has good reviews. Here is [url]one:http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/70513-seame-spring-hotel/[/url]

Pattaya trip late 2011 / early 2012.

I spent about a week in Pattaya over the new years and just after Christmas. Nothing really new here except maybe a few tips.

Firstly I would recommend Mr Keaks taxi as the guy was courteous and quick. Down from the airport in about 1hr. Stayed at the Queen Vic on soi 6 the first night. Pretty good place over all. Their food was good. Went back a few times for that alone. After my night there with my more regular girl we went to the Jasmine Hotel. This place is good as its right there on the walking street yet quiet enough. Of course there are exceptions like new years eve where people run amok. Guilty as charged myself.

After banging my regular chick a few times and paying for all her food etc I wanted to get on with my goal. Including her there were the following. One girl from a beer bar next to the beer garden. Older but very personable and sexy arse. I'd rate her a 7 out of 10. Then I went down soi 6 and had the girl I reported on before. VERY satisfying sessions followed the next day and I went drinking with her a few times. I went to the sabai dee at about noon and saw that they had some good looking girls. I would put the pics up here but I don't want to get her in trouble. They arent supposed to do pics there. Mine was great though after I made her cum.

This brings me to my first pointer. Make the girls cum anyway you can. The service improves 10 fold once you do this in my opinion. All of the girls I went with responded to it immediately. Got some requests for another go from THEM!

Then there came the Windmill girl. Sweetest little thing I have met in the hobby. Gave her more than she asked for due to this and her lovely body and attitude. For the life of me I can't remember her name though. Ahrg! Took her to the bar under Tattoo for a beer on the way home. The band there were pretty awesome. Don't know how many times I have heard Master of Puppets played live but it is not many. We slept in then had a go in the morning. No comments on overpaying please. It wasnt that much of a tip anyway.

Windmill is awesome. I would go there again in a blink of an eye. Read the forum and took the advice. Tip or lady drink them. You get the attention of the girls and they come over and play! YEAH!

For all you OZ and KIWIs out there. Get ya arse to Roo bar and hang out with the boys and girls. Great bar. All types come in. And the best part is the location. Right there on walking street. Watch the world go by. I know I did. Ladyboys a plenty trying to pick up all sorts. I was never approached by any ladyboy. In fact it only just happened at my next destination Phnom Penh. I thought it would there if anywhere.

I went down to Devils den. Of course it was open. The guys there were very accommodating and explained everything in native English. The staff behind the bar there were very cute and kind as well. I chose Eve and Cake. Quite a satisfying session. Cake is up for anything. Eve was pretty good too.

Hatguy

I just tried to access their site and only got a blank page with only their logo and line of text that says "The Devil's Den is Under New Management".

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1234063]I have stayed at just about all the LK hotels and they have all been GF. Just email them to try and confirm.

Sea Me Springs is GF and has good reviews. Here is.

[url]one:http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/70513-seame-spring-hotel/[/url][/QUOTE]Dear mr luvpuss

Thank you

I recieved prompt reply from lk empresss maanger hotel is gf.

My second question was I have read in lot of Pattaya reports that soi 10 is literally torn apart and difficult move around. Hence

The query should I opt for lk mpress or sea me springs

My new question is should I book around soi lk metro area or on beach road

Thanks a lot friends

[QUOTE=Satyr23;1234256]I just tried to access their site and only got a blank page with only their logo and line of text that says "The Devil's Den is Under New Management".[/QUOTE]They have a new website:

[url]http://www.devilsdenthailand.com/[/url]

You are welcome.

I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?

[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1234112]Pattaya trip late 2011 / early 2012.

I went to the sabai dee at about noon and saw that they had some good looking girls. I would put the pics up here but I don't want to get her in trouble. They arent supposed to do pics there. Mine was great though after I made her cum.

Hatguy[/QUOTE]Can you recap how much is it for a soapie in there? And what you get for what you pay?

Thanks.

Also, name or number of the girl, if you remember.

Yesterday I found myself cruising down Soi Buakhow on my bike with nothing much to do when I decided to have a massage. I turned down Soi Honey Inn and was hailed by a bunch of rather plain looking older girls in front of a little hole in the wall massage shop called "Up to You."

The girl I chose and the oil massage she gave were unremarkable so I won't go much into the details, but after a shower and mediocre rub down concentrated mostly on my legs and between the buttocks and scrotum areas, she offered everything from HJ to FS. She quoted 800 for BBBJ but happily agreed to 500 plus 200 for the shop. Then at my direction she stripped naked and performed a mechanical BBBJ, no CIM, while I played with her tits and ass.

Upon my returning home after a few minutes, I noticed that my pinky ring was missing and a sick feeling of loss went through me. It's a gold ring set with 5 quarter carat diamonds that used to be a wedding band. I had it sized for my little finger and think of it my "freedom ring." It's probably worth about $1, 500 USD.

All kinds of terrible thoughts were whizzing through my brain as I raced from Jomtien the 10 kilometers or so back to the shop on my bike. Did that girl take the ring off my slippery finger while I was distracted? I resolved to find it and if not to go to the police.

I pulled up in front of the shop and eight or nine girls were sitting out front, including my girl. I was rather surprised to see her, since if she stole my ring, I would not expect her to stick around to wait until I came back for it.

Very calmly but assertively, I pointed to my little finger and asked if she had found my ring. She looked at me with confusion on her face and mumbled something like 'I dunno, ' so I declared for all the girls to hear in a non-accusatory manner that I would give 1000 baht to anyone who could find it.

After saying this about 3 or 4 times, one of the other girls suddenly stood up and produced the ring saying that she found it in the shower. It must have slipped off my finger during my shower. What a relief! I put it back on my finger, took out my wallet and handed the girl 1000 baht. After that there were smiles and laughter all around and I told the girls how happy I was, etc., to have it back.

Bottom line: Honesty can be purchased from massage girls in Pattaya for 1000 baht.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1234297]I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?[/QUOTE]Count on at least 2 hours one way and 1000 baht (more time and money if you are in the center of BKK; sometimes it takes an hour or more just to get out of BKK). Unless you have been to Pattaya before, it will take you some time to get your bearings and find some nice companion (assuming that is what you are looking for).

All in all, I do not think it is worthwhile. The quality of the girls is good, but so it is in BKK. You might find it cheaper in Pattaya than in BKK, but when you add the travel time and cost, it would be a close call.

Don't misunderstand me, I think Pattaya is a nice area for mongering but I think it is too much stress to come all the way from BKK just for one day. The fun of Pattaya is that you can walk around at your leisure, sample all those beauties available for sale almost everywhere in town, then after a day of "stalking & hunting" choose one and take her to your place for some nice horizontal gymnastics LT. No stress, just good times!

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1234341]Can you recap how much is it for a soapie in there? And what you get for what you pay?

Thanks.

Also, name or number of the girl, if you remember.[/QUOTE]Sorry I don't remember her name. She was one of the few that started at about noon. There werent many. I think the price was 1800. We started in the shower / bath. Then onto the soapy thing on the air mattress. Then it was in the bed for some foreplay followed by a single go. She was one of those girls that reciprocates twice as much if you make her cum. LOL

[QUOTE=Margaya;1234297]I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?[/QUOTE]Leave early and get back late.

Frustration on the tollway? Why? It is a modern 3-4 lane highway.

[quote=manliraj; 1234266]dear mr luvpuss

thank you

i recieved prompt reply from lk empresss maanger hotel is gf.

my second question was i have read in lot of pattaya reports that soi 10 is literally torn apart and difficult move around. hence

the query should i opt for lk mpress or sea me springs

my new question is should i book around soi lk metro area or on beach road

thanks a lot friends[/quote]your second question is just a personal choice. lk metro area does have many bars, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and devil's den very close by. i usually stay at the lk renaissance. it is modern and nice. or the areca lodge is decent and cheaper. it is about a 10 min. walk to beach road. from there.

if you stay on beach road, you will have a few more amenties closer and obviously close to the br freelancers. it will generally be busier with more tourists.

[quote=luvpuss; 1234639]your second question is just a personal choice. lk metro area does have many bars, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and devil's den very close by. i usually stay at the lk renaissance. it is modern and nice. or the areca lodge is decent and cheaper. it is about a 10 min. walk to beach road. from there.

if you stay on beach road, you will have a few more amenties closer and obviously close to the br freelancers. it will generally be busier with more tourists.[/quote]dear sir,

thank you again for kind information.

Wolvenvacht.

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I guess you right about staying over and enjoying it rather than just have a look at it.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1234609]Count on at least 2 hours one way and 1000 baht (more time and money if you are in the center of BKK; sometimes it takes an hour or more just to get out of BKK). Unless you have been to Pattaya before, it will take you some time to get your bearings and find some nice companion (assuming that is what you are looking for).

All in all, I do not think it is worthwhile. The quality of the girls is good, but so it is in BKK. You might find it cheaper in Pattaya than in BKK, but when you add the travel time and cost, it would be a close call.

Don't misunderstand me, I think Pattaya is a nice area for mongering but I think it is too much stress to come all the way from BKK just for one day. The fun of Pattaya is that you can walk around at your leisure, sample all those beauties available for sale almost everywhere in town, then after a day of "stalking & hunting" choose one and take her to your place for some nice horizontal gymnastics LT. No stress, just good times![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Margaya;1234297]I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?[/QUOTE]If its just girls / sex you may as well stay in BKK, the costs are a bit higher but you don't waste time and money on the transport. If you have been to BKK many times and just want to scope out Pattaya in case of a future visit then why not as long as you are not penny pinching re taxi fares etc.

Daddy07,

When reading your story I though you were going to say you lost the ring when you were playing with her Ass. And when you came back and didn't get a answer you were going to get her a Heimlich ass go around?

Yeh, I seen that ring before it's not your everyday ring that the King where's from Burger King! That's the ring the King from Jomtien wears gold band with diamonds!

LBM

[QUOTE=Hatguy;1234617]I think the price was 1800. We started in the shower / bath. Then onto the soapy thing on the air mattress. Then it was in the bed for some foreplay followed by a single go.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks.

If not you, can anyone reading be more specific about service?

Within given time, are you allowed to have a multiple-shots? I want to know if you cum early then it's just massage or girls are hot for another ride.

Also, does girl allow you some hardcore stuff, like cim or anything?

Last year I visited Sabai and it was my 2nd trip to Pattaya, as I am a regular reader of ISG and I know their price very well (They charge 1800B for fish bowl Girls and 2500B for side liner) when I asked one attendant from fish bowl area he said 2500B so I left the area for side liner and the attendant there quote 2500 B for side liner, when I asked him how much the price of fish bowl girls, he said 1800 B, I left the place for Honey Massage Parlour as I also found there reports are coming very good and every body suggesting them so to try I visit and found them very friendly and professional and the place is best If you want to go for a soapie, even there fishbowl girls are better then side liner of Sabai. Honey rooms are big, new and neat and clean. Girls are very friendly the one I tried was a CA student from BKK & came only on Friday and Saturday to earn some good money. ALso the price is same as sabai only difference is that all the girl are inside with red and blue no. Token (Red for 1800B and blue for 2500B)

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1234341]Can you recap how much is it for a soapie in there? And what you get for what you pay?

Thanks.

Also, name or number of the girl, if you remember.[/QUOTE]

[quote]your opinion about sea me spring on soi 10? [with open sewage repair work going on.][/quote]the construction on soi 10 is very close to the sea me spring hotel. as of december 2011 it was a giant hole in the ground as wide as the street and about 100 meters long. it looks like they are installing storm sewers. probably a necessity in a place subject to monsoons, but for the time being a real pain in the neck. i stayed at the page 10 hotel just up the street. they started work every day about 0800 and there were using two pieces of heavy equipment, a giant excavator and a smaller front-end loader / backhoe. in addition to digging one big-assed hole in the ground, they were also driving pilings and pouring concrete. so it's a big, noisy job that starts early in the morning. you can work your way around it on foot, but you've got to walk over giant piles of dirt. and if you ask me it's only a matter of time before some drunk falls into the pit.

in the evening there is lots of noise coming from the beer bar complex on the south side of soi 10, just west of second road. there are two bands, one specializing in thai music, and the other rock-and-roll. the thai band sets their sound system waaaay too loud, especially considering they seldom play to more than 50 people. the rock-and-roll band then tries to keep up. it's a real "battle of the bands," and it goes on until 0300.

i recently stayed at the page 10 hotel, which is on the north side of the street, in a room facing south. they have installed double sliding glass doors and heavy drapes to cut down on the noise. but it's still aggravating. the sea me spring is on the south side of soi 10, but farther west toward the ocean. so it's not as close to the battling bands as the page 10. but it's closer to the construction site. right smack in the middle of it, actually.

seems to me that with the construction ongoing you might be able to score a deal at the sea me spring. i would recommend one of the "sea deluxe" rooms. they are the nicest of the rooms they offer. more importantly, they are located at the western end of the building, facing the water. if you were to book one on the top floor you'd probably not be bothered by the music. but you'd still hear the construction.

bunky

[quote]i will be in bkk for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to pattaya as a day trip. might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?[/quote]it can be done, but it's going to be a challenge.

even the fastest taxi ride in the world will take at least 90 minutes each way and set you back 1000 to 1100 baht. so that's three hours and 2000 baht right off the bat. with 2000 baht you are well on your way to a very nice session in bangkok with the hottest girl from baccara or one of the teen hotties at nataree.

the daytime scene in pattaya is rather limited. yes, you can find a girl to go with you. but it's a resort town where people stay out late. the go go clubs and beer bars don't really get started until eight or nine in the evening. the discos on walking street don't get going until after midnite. so your return to bangkok would be in the wee hours and it could be a challenge to find a taxi. your best bet there would be to pay the same driver who brought you down to wait for you to finish. but that adds cost. or you could dismiss that driver and then make arrangements at one of the numerous cab stands all over pattaya for a taxi at a time certain. but how do you know when you'll be finished? finding the girl of your dreams is an uncertain undertaking sometimes.

there is also the problem of where to take care of business. if you pull a girl from a go go or a beer bar you'll need a short time hotel. there are plenty around. but it's going to add another 300 baht to your cost, and they can be rather sad little places.

earlier in the day soi 6 is an option. by one or two in the afternoon there is a decent selection of girls. about sundown the soi is packed with girls. moreover, most of the soi 6 bars have rooms on-premises. so if you want to get laid earlier in the day it's ideal in terms of selection and a place to do the deed. but soi 6 isn't for everybody. some punters find the in-your-face vibe offputting. as they say on the boards, ymmv. on the other hand, i've never had any trouble finding two or three hotties i'd love to bang. and the point-and-shoot setup on soi 6 is perfect for somebody who's just down to pattaya for the day.

i suppose you could troll beach road for a freelancer earlier in the day as well. but the quality of those girls is definitely hit or miss.

if it was me, i'd stay in bangkok and use the money and time saved to check out the fresh firm talent at nana plaza, which right now is abundant.

but if you've got your heart set on pattaya for a day, i'd recommend:

leave bkk at noon and head straight for soi 6.

walk up and down exactly twice, then pick the hottest girl you can find from the bevy of beauties sitting out in front of the bars.

step inside her bar and spend 300 baht on a couple of drinks. for the next 20 minutes let her "convince" you to go upstairs.

"bar fine!" drop 300 baht for the bar fine.

head upstairs to one of the short time rooms. take a quick shower and drop your first load.

pay the girl 700 baht.

time to recharge. doing what? up. to. you. if you're flush, take the baht bus to walking street and have a bite at one of the fancy seafood restaurants. if you're prefer to spend your dough on dames, dine at the pattaya beer garden. and there's always the street food on soi 14 and soi 15.

ready for a second pop? you can always head back to soi 6. you wouldn't be the first guy to bang two girls in a matter of hours. or you could let one of the blow job masters at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s "take care."

by this time i reckon it's a little after dark. get a taxi back to bangkok, and during the ride try to squeeze in a combat nap.

still up for action? you'll be back in the big mango in plenty of time to find a girl who is hot enough to earn your third load of the day.

no power? hit the rack early. the girls will still be there tomorrow.

worth the effort? depends on your personality and stamina. if you're a young, high speed, low drag, kind of punter it could be fun. but it's definitely a lot of effort and expense for a few hours in pattaya. if you're older and less inclined toward this type of manic peripatetic holiday, i'd skip the trip.

fyi, i can heartily recommend this taxi service:

[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]

the boss, khun keak, runs a tight ship and booking by e-mail is a cinch. his drivers are good and their cars are well maintained.

bunky

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1235044]Ok, thanks.

If not you, can anyone reading be more specific about service?

Within given time, are you allowed to have a multiple-shots? I want to know if you cum early then it's just massage or girls are hot for another ride.

Also, does girl allow you some hardcore stuff, like cim or anything?[/QUOTE]I did ask for another go but she said it was a one shot kinda thing. Though I did cum on her tits if I recall correctly.

There was way too many girls in patts to choose from and I didn't get down there as much as I wanted to. Next time maybe.

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1235157]The construction on Soi 10 is VERY close to the Sea Me Spring Hotel. As of December 2011 it was a giant hole in the ground as wide as the street and about 100 meters long. It looks like they are installing storm sewers. Probably a necessity in a place subject to monsoons, but for the time being a real pain in the neck. I stayed at the Page 10 Hotel just up the street. They started work every day about 0800 and there were using two pieces of heavy equipment, a giant excavator and a smaller front-end loader / backhoe. In addition to digging one big-assed hole in the ground, they were also driving pilings and pouring concrete. So it's a big, noisy job that starts early in the morning. You can work your way around it on foot, but you've got to walk over giant piles of dirt. And if you ask me it's only a matter of time before some drunk falls into the pit.

Seems to me that with the construction ongoing you might be able to score a deal at the Sea Me Spring. I would recommend one of the "Sea Deluxe" rooms. They are the nicest of the rooms they offer. More importantly, they are located at the western end of the building, facing the water. If you were to book one on the top floor you'd probably not be bothered by the music. But you'd still hear the construction.

Bunky[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I recently booked Sea Me but not until April, so hoping the construction will be done by then. Or at least moved along the Soi.

Sound like a royal pain in the ass. Imagine if it was still raining! A real mess!

Cheers.

I have been to Pattaya three times, but decades ago. We'll plan to be there in November to see some sun, sand and sin. What is the best place in the daytime to find a 30s lady for mutual admiration? With hosting capability.

Hi,

I'll be in Pat beginning of next month. I want to check out and report on a number of BlowJobBars.

I know of.

PumpStation.

Lollitas.

Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.

Cheers

Bliss Lounge is good. With BJ bars, you compromise looks for technique.

[QUOTE=H Pilot; 1235385]Hi,

I'll be in Pat beginning of next month. I want to check out and report on a number of BlowJobBars.

I know of.

PumpStation.

Lollitas.

Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Try Bliss on 3rd road.

[QUOTE=Roger92;1235057].the place is best If you want to go for a soapie, even there fishbowl girls are better then side liner of Sabai. Honey rooms are big, new and neat and clean.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hatguy.

And many thanks Roger92.

Just one thing missing: is HONEY easy to find? Can you write me the address, please?

greglondon,

thanks a lot for splitting the choice in straight forward two options. i ammuch more clwar now as to why i should scope out pattaya if i want to.

[quote=greglondon;1234860]if its just girls / sex you may as well stay in bkk, the costs are a bit higher but you don't waste time and money on the transport. if you have been to bkk many times and just want to scope out pattaya in case of a future visit then why not as long as you are not penny pinching re taxi fares etc.[/quote]bunky.

without a doubt, yours is the best reply i have seen on this board after a long long time. thank you so much for the detailed information about taxis, cost and local scene in pattaya. if i domanage to get bored in bkk, i will try to head to pattaya for evening fun at soi6 and wontplan to be back till past midnight.

hats off to you for the outstanding report.

[quote=bunky; 1235172]it can be done, but it's going to be a challenge.

even the fastest taxi ride in the world will take at least 90 minutes each way and set you back 1000 to 1100 baht. so that's three hours and 2000 baht right off the bat. with 2000 baht you are well on your way to a very nice session in bangkok with the hottest girl from baccara or one of the teen hotties at nataree.

the daytime scene in pattaya is rather limited. yes, you can find a girl to go with you. but it's a resort town where people stay out late. the go go clubs and beer bars don't really get started until eight or nine in the evening. the discos on walking street don't get going until after midnite. so your return to bangkok would be in the wee hours and it could be a challenge to find a taxi. your best bet there would be to pay the same driver who brought you down to wait for you to finish. but that adds cost. or you could dismiss that driver and then make arrangements at one of the numerous cab stands all over pattaya for a taxi at a time certain. but how do you know when you'll be finished? finding the girl of your dreams is an uncertain undertaking sometimes.

there is also the problem of where to take care of business. if you pull a girl from a go go or a beer bar you'll need a short time hotel. there are plenty around. but it's going to add another 300 baht to your cost, and they can be rather sad little places.

earlier in the day soi 6 is an option. by one or two in the afternoon there is a decent selection of girls. about sundown the soi is packed with girls. moreover, most of the soi 6 bars have rooms on-premises. so if you want to get laid earlier in the day it's ideal in terms of selection and a place to do the deed. but soi 6 isn't for everybody. some punters find the in-your-face vibe offputting. as they say on the boards, ymmv. on the other hand, i've never had any trouble finding two or three hotties i'd love to bang. and the point-and-shoot setup on soi 6 is perfect for somebody who's just down to pattaya for the day.

i suppose you could troll beach road for a freelancer earlier in the day as well. but the quality of those girls is definitely hit or miss.

if it was me, i'd stay in bangkok and use the money and time saved to check out the fresh firm talent at nana plaza, which right now is abundant.

but if you've got your heart set on pattaya for a day, i'd recommend:

leave bkk at noon and head straight for soi 6.

walk up and down exactly twice, then pick the hottest girl you can find from the bevy of beauties sitting out in front of the bars.

step inside her bar and spend 300 baht on a couple of drinks. for the next 20 minutes let her "convince" you to go upstairs.

"bar fine!" drop 300 baht for the bar fine.

head upstairs to one of the short time rooms. take a quick shower and drop your first load.

pay the girl 700 baht.

time to recharge. doing what? up. to. you. if you're flush, take the baht bus to walking street and have a bite at one of the fancy seafood restaurants. if you're prefer to spend your dough on dames, dine at the pattaya beer garden. and there's always the street food on soi 14 and soi 15.

ready for a second pop? you can always head back to soi 6. you wouldn't be the first guy to bang two girls in a matter of hours. or you could let one of the blow job masters at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s "take care."

by this time i reckon it's a little after dark. get a taxi back to bangkok, and during the ride try to squeeze in a combat nap.

still up for action? you'll be back in the big mango in plenty of time to find a girl who is hot enough to earn your third load of the day.

no power? hit the rack early. the girls will still be there tomorrow.

worth the effort? depends on your personality and stamina. if you're a young, high speed, low drag, kind of punter it could be fun. but it's definitely a lot of effort and expense for a few hours in pattaya. if you're older and less inclined toward this type of manic peripatetic holiday, i'd skip the trip.

fyi, i can heartily recommend this taxi service:

[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]

the boss, khun keak, runs a tight ship and booking by e-mail is a cinch. his drivers are good and their cars are well maintained.

bunky[/quote]

[QUOTE=Satyr23;1234256]I just tried to access their site and only got a blank page with only their logo and line of text that says "The Devil's Den is Under New Management".[/QUOTE]I was there after the new management took over. Should have saved my money for a gogo.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1235327]I have been to Pattaya three times, but decades ago. We'll plan to be there in November to see some sun, sand and sin. What is the best place in the daytime to find a 30s lady for mutual admiration? With hosting capability.[/QUOTE]Soi 6, no doubt about that. Most of the bars there have their own in-house short-time rooms. As from the early afternoon, literally hundreds of ladies are standing in front of their bars, trying to lure (or sometimes even, pull) you in.

[QUOTE=H Pilot; 1235385]Hi,

I'll be in Pat beginning of next month. I want to check out and report on a number of BlowJobBars.

I know of.

PumpStation.

Lollitas.

Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.

Cheers[/QUOTE]A second that for The Bliss Lounge on 3rd road. No stunners though. Ask for Ann. Highly reccomended.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1235475]Thanks Hatguy.

Just one thing missing: is HONEY easy to find? Can you write me the address, please?[/QUOTE]Believe he is refferring to honey massage, soi honey (where else )?

On second Road, one block north of soi diana, turn right.

About 60m up, on your left hand side

[QUOTE=MilesToGo; 1235631]Believe he is refferring to honey massage, soi honey (where else )?

On second Road, one block north of soi diana, turn right.

About 60m up, on your left hand side[/QUOTE]Isn't Honey massage on soi 11?

[url]http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/map.htm[/url]

Took a taxi from BKK and paid 1500B. I read somewhere else that the price is 1200 but that is what I was quoted by several drivers and it seemed OK based on the distance (compared to say the fare from the airport to downtown BKK).

Stayed at the Marriott on Beach Road, which is within walking distance of walking street, get out by the Beach Road exit, make a left and walk 10 minutes you are there. As reported you can also sit at the back of a little truck, pay 20B and get there faster, or even hop on a scooter as I once did at 9AM with my new GF in tow.

There are so many good reports about Pattaya, not much to add about the bars, other than I found the most beautiful girls to be at Baccara (also the case in BKK) , liked the cool white atmosphere of What's Up, the intimate fingering at Babydolls (at the same time I would not pick up this beautiful girl wrapped around my medius only because I was thinking of how many others may have been in the same spot that night) , I liked the fact that I-bar and Insomina are open all night, but disliked the competition with younger tatooed guys wearing muscle shirts, not that the girls would care one way or the other but I do. And yes, you blink you lose. From what I saw, the girls don't approach the guys, it is always the other way around.

Ended up at JP's bar at 9AM and was surprised to see very pretty girls there (some of them I had seen at Insomnia a few hours before). I took one of them and she was so amazing. He name was Poom, very slender, no baby, short dark hair girl. She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT. Once in the room I was impressed because immediately after the first round she started rubbing against me, DFK, and doing just about everything to get me hard again, then she put her ass up and said something that must have been the Thai equivalent of F* me. Wow. She was just insatiable, I did not expect that and it was very ego pleasing even though I was physically exhausted.

The next day I picked up #56 at Baccara, Leek, at 4AM because I did not want to go through the disco experience 2 nights in a row. Very nice girl though she complained a lot that I was "too big" (not that I am but she had a Japanese boyfriend before and said she had not had sex for 4 months). True or not it all went in thanks to KY, nice lady for ST, pretty tattoos on her back and long legs make for a nice artistic view from behind.

Overall I thought Pattaya was a Thai version of Angeles City, with differences of course the main ones being the ladies themselves. I liked it, did not feel particularly unsafe at any time (but stayed between the Marriott and Walking street, did not go elsewhere) , the girls I met were nice and I will return if I have a chance, not that it is better than BKK but maybe a bit cheaper and mostly a different setting and so much choice. And I don't know why there are so many Russians but darn, their girlfriends are HOT!

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1235636]Isn't Honey massage on soi 11?

[url]http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/map.htm[/url][/QUOTE]The problem with honey massage is they don't do BBBJ only CBJ. And they expect a tip on top of what I think I remember was 1800 baht per session. Rather hit Teen Dream Message where you pay about the same for similar service. Just my 2 baht if that much.

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1235783]Took a taxi from BKK and paid 1500B. I read somewhere else that the price is 1200 but that is what I was quoted by several drivers and it seemed OK based on the distance (compared to say the fare from the airport to downtown BKK).

Stayed at the Marriott on Beach Road, which is within walking distance of walking street, get out by the Beach Road exit, make a left and walk 10 minutes you are there. As reported you can also sit at the back of a little truck, pay 20B and get there faster, or even hop on a scooter as I once did at 9AM with my new GF in tow.

There are so many good reports about Pattaya, not much to add about the bars, other than I found the most beautiful girls to be at Baccara (also the case in BKK) , liked the cool white atmosphere of What's Up, the intimate fingering at Babydolls (at the same time I would not pick up this beautiful girl wrapped around my medius only because I was thinking of how many others may have been in the same spot that night) , I liked the fact that I-bar and Insomina are open all night, but disliked the competition with younger tatooed guys wearing muscle shirts, not that the girls would care one way or the other but I do. And yes, you blink you lose. From what I saw, the girls don't approach the guys, it is always the other way around.

Ended up at JP's bar at 9AM and was surprised to see very pretty girls there (some of them I had seen at Insomnia a few hours before). I took one of them and she was so amazing. He name was Poom, very slender, no baby, short dark hair girl. She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT. Once in the room I was impressed because immediately after the first round she started rubbing against me, DFK, and doing just about everything to get me hard again, then she put her ass up and said something that must have been the Thai equivalent of F* me. Wow. She was just insatiable, I did not expect that and it was very ego pleasing even though I was physically exhausted.

The next day I picked up #56 at Baccara, Leek, at 4AM because I did not want to go through the disco experience 2 nights in a row. Very nice girl though she complained a lot that I was "too big" (not that I am but she had a Japanese boyfriend before and said she had not had sex for 4 months). True or not it all went in thanks to KY, nice lady for ST, pretty tattoos on her back and long legs make for a nice artistic view from behind.

Overall I thought Pattaya was a Thai version of Angeles City, with differences of course the main ones being the ladies themselves. I liked it, did not feel particularly unsafe at any time (but stayed between the Marriott and Walking street, did not go elsewhere) , the girls I met were nice and I will return if I have a chance, not that it is better than BKK but maybe a bit cheaper and mostly a different setting and so much choice. And I don't know why there are so many Russians but darn, their girlfriends are HOT![/QUOTE]thanks for your report!

Good to know they are still some pretty girls availanle at 9am in JP bar.

BTW, bahtbus is 10 baht and can you still talking about LT when you pick-up a girl at 9am. .

Cheer's

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1235783]Took a taxi from BKK and paid 1500B. I read somewhere else that the price is 1200 but that is what I was quoted by several drivers and it seemed OK based on the distance (compared to say the fare from the airport to downtown BKK).

Stayed at the Marriott on Beach Road, which is within walking distance of walking street, get out by the Beach Road exit, make a left and walk 10 minutes you are there. As reported you can also sit at the back of a little truck, pay 20B and get there faster, or even hop on a scooter as I once did at 9AM with my new GF in tow.

Ended up at JP's bar at 9AM and was surprised to see very pretty girls there (some of them I had seen at Insomnia a few hours before). I took one of them and she was so amazing. He name was Poom, very slender, no baby, short dark hair girl. She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT.[/QUOTE]As Marteau said the baht bus is 10 baht. Likewise the taxi should have been 1000 baht to Pattaya and 860 back to the airport (when you get a quote don't just accept it, counter it; 860 is the conventional rate from Pats to the airport as can be seen at the many taxi booths around the city). As far as the girl. 1500 ST for a girl you met at a bar?

[QUOTE=Mahal;1235783]She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT. Once in the room I was impressed because immediately after the first round she started rubbing against me, DFK, and doing just about everything to get me hard again, then she put her ass up and said something that must have been the Thai equivalent of F* me. Wow. She was just insatiable, I did not expect that and it was very ego pleasing even though I was physically exhausted.[/QUOTE]I don't know if Mr E. Reference below matches with what I am mumbling myself, but it looks like you overpaid it.

Of course, a performance like you described may be priceless in a way, but according to last year pussy-market it is supposed to be still 500 bath ST. 1000 bath LT.

Hopefully.

Also, a little non-sense the 500 baht gap between ST and LT.

Really hope this is not the standard for 2012 and that you found a smart-ass (beware!) or, along with the current worst possible change with euros, my holiday is about to costs me twice!

[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1235833]The problem with honey massage is they don't do BBBJ only CBJ. And they expect a tip on top of what I think I remember was 1800 baht per session.[/QUOTE]Blasphemy! Guys, do you confirm non BBBJ at Honey Massage?

Teen Dream Message? Never heard about it. Again, address and map, please.

When I was in Pattaya, I was taking a baht bus back to the hotel with a bar girl. She asked for 40 baht to pay the driver. I spent about a month there paying 20 baht a ride before I learned different.

[QUOTE=Marteau; 1235857]thanks for your report!

BTW, bahtbus is 10 baht and can you still talking about LT when you pick-up a girl at 9am. .

Cheer's[/QUOTE]

. . for Mahal who probably overpaid. He has more than 200 previous posts, so he knew. Or should have known the prevailing price level. Instead, he allowed himself to be talked into paying ridiculous prices. So what? . He is happy and had one hell of a time. If he couldn't afford it, he would have bargained.
For him it was worth it. Food for thought, Cheap Charlies.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1235925]Teen Dream Message? Never heard about it. Again, address and map, please.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Horatio;1235974]When I was in Pattaya, I was taking a baht bus back to the hotel with a bar girl. She asked for 40 baht to pay the driver. I spent about a month there paying 20 baht a ride before I learned different.[/QUOTE]In general and sterotype! When a girl or person does that it is a clear indication of what to expect in the future?

LBM

I was in Pattaya a few years ago and would like to find this place I went to. It was in South Pattaya, maybe on or near Walking street, but am not sure. It was a big place, kind of like a disco but no flashing lights, so not really a disco. More like a big bar. I think it had live music. There were a lot of freelancers, maybe even some non-pros, but not sure about that. The girls there did not work for the place. They came on their own. I think there was also a bar area near the entrance and to the right where you can sit down at the bar. There were also a lot of tables. I think the place was on the corner on the left as I was walking south. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar and street name or address so I can find it? I really liked the atmosphere of the place. You can dance and feel like you're on a real date. Hope this place is still around.

Am trying to find this bar in north Pattaya I went to a few years ago. Hope it is still around. It was not very big. At the time it seemed to be one of the better places for daytime action. Had a few good looking babes. Most were in the bar but some sat outside.

Coming from the beach, walking inland a couple of blocks on I think it was Soi 4, but could be Soi 3 or 5. Walk down the street and it is on the left. This bar was daytime only for girls. Not nites. It is next to a motel. The motel was to the left as you enter the bar. I think the girls there were independents. You take them to the motel next door. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar, the street or any famous hotels next to it so I can find it?

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1235783]There are so many good reports about Pattaya, not much to add about the bars, other than I found the most beautiful girls to be at Baccara (also the case in BKK) , liked the cool white atmosphere of What's Up, the intimate fingering at Babydolls (at the same time I would not pick up this beautiful girl wrapped around my medius only because I was thinking of how many others may have been in the same spot that night) , I liked the fact that I-bar and Insomina are open all night, but disliked the competition with younger tatooed guys wearing muscle shirts, not that the girls would care one way or the other but I do. And yes, you blink you lose. From what I saw, the girls don't approach the guys, it is always the other way around.

![/QUOTE]What is a general idea of what the girls at Baccara and other go-go bars charge for short time? And how much is all night? Do many of the go go girls do all night? How much is the bar fine at these places?

(I know this question has probably been answered already, but I looked through a few posts and didn't see).

[QUOTE=Henry R;1236067]I was in Pattaya a few years ago and would like to find this place I went to. It was in South Pattaya, maybe on or near Walking street, but am not sure. It was a big place, kind of like a disco but no flashing lights, so not really a disco. More like a big bar. I think it had live music. There were a lot of freelancers, maybe even some non-pros, but not sure about that. The girls there did not work for the place. They came on their own. I think there was also a bar area near the entrance and to the right where you can sit down at the bar. There were also a lot of tables. I think the place was on the corner on the left as I was walking south. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar and street name or address so I can find it? I really liked the atmosphere of the place. You can dance and feel like you're on a real date. Hope this place is still around.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Bamboo Bar. Very popular hang out with older farangs. Was there with a 45 year old friend last week and he was the youngest farang there (apart from me). Older Thai girls as well who have been around a bit. Before you enter the Walking Street turn left. It's just a few shop fronts away and you can't miss it.

Darn, you got scammed by your BG. She paid the driver 20bt and pocked the other 20bt. Amazing Thailand. My 1st time on the baht bus I paid close attention to what the locals paid. Trust no one is my motto.

[QUOTE=Horatio;1235974]When I was in Pattaya, I was taking a baht bus back to the hotel with a bar girl. She asked for 40 baht to pay the driver. I spent about a month there paying 20 baht a ride before I learned different.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1236019][url]Http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks a lot Run Mann.

Looks like there are fine girls at affordable prices.

Still, I don't get if prices listed include sex or are meant just for room and massage and you are supposed to bargain "s*ck & f*ck as" extras.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1236019][url]Http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.html[/url][/QUOTE]And website doesn't mention soapy massage at all.

[QUOTE=Jgm005;1236095]Darn, you got scammed by your BG. She paid the driver 20bt and pocked the other 20bt. Amazing Thailand. My 1st time on the baht bus I paid close attention to what the locals paid. Trust no one is my motto.[/QUOTE]Baht bus is 10 Baht per person. Even if I go from the center all the way to jomtien beach, I never paid more than 10.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1236075]What is a general idea of what the girls at Baccara and other go-go bars charge for short time? And how much is all night? Do many of the go go girls do all night? How much is the bar fine at these places?

(I know this question has probably been answered already, but I looked through a few posts and didn't see).[/QUOTE]Barfine in Baccara is 600. Girls normally ask for 2000 ST, 3000 LT in Baccara, but you can negotiate. If she likes you and / or you are a regular customer, you might pay less, or at least get two rounds doing ST. Many of the girls at Baccara don't do LT, they prefer coming back to the club and doing 2-3 ST per night, then go to sleep at their own place.

[QUOTE=Delgado;1236121]Baht bus is 10 Baht per person. Even if I go from the center all the way to jomtien beach, I never paid more than 10.[/QUOTE]When I come from Jomtien, normally would have to change to another songteaw at Pattaya South Road, as they mostly turn around there.

When I go to the bus station, one songteaw to the circle at the end of 2nd road, and from there another along Pattaya North Road to the station.

Always 10 baht per trip. (So 20 baht in total from Jomtien to Soi 7, for example, or 30 baht in total from Jomtien to the North Pattaya bus station.)

[QUOTE=H Pilot;1235385]Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.[/QUOTE]Also Golden Girls in soi 13/2, 650 baht.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1236129]When I come from Jomtien, normally would have to change to another songteaw at Pattaya South Road, as they mostly turn around there.

When I go to the bus station, one songteaw to the circle at the end of 2nd road, and from there another along Pattaya North Road to the station.

Always 10 baht per trip. (So 20 baht in total from Jomtien to Soi 7, for example, or 30 baht in total from Jomtien to the North Pattaya bus station.) [/QUOTE]If you have to change the bus, of course you pay 10 again. I normally take the bus at south Pattaya road which I consider being the center, as its just next to the entrance of walking street.

[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1235833]The problem with honey massage is they don't do BBBJ only CBJ. And they expect a tip on top of what I think I remember was 1800 baht per session. Rather hit Teen Dream Message where you pay about the same for similar service. Just my 2 baht if that much.[/QUOTE]I think you are right, I didn't partake at Honey becasue they told me everything was covered. Also I think the price is just to high, but that's just me.

My friend you.

Soi 6 about third way down on left towards Beach road. I went in there at about 6pm a few weeks ago. Told the girl my friend was coming and they should wait. Bought two lady drinks and sat there for a few minutes with nice conversation. But when it became clear my mate was a bit late these two told me they were going to sit outside. OKAAAAY so I sat there at the bar alone being ignored until my friend arrived. Even then the girls stayed outside. It was like YOUR FRIEND AND YOU should leave because they were busy sitting outside.

Won't be back there. Too bad too. Good reviews here.

Red Point.

Really liked this place. Attentive girl that drank proper drink not cola. Even though she wasnt so good at English (and I speak bugger all Thai) she was up for fun. Too bad I was buggered after other places. My mate took one upstairs and had a blast.

Ill be back someday and Soi 6 is on my list. Hatguy

[QUOTE=Punter 127;1236142]I think you are right, I didn't partake at Honey becasue they told me everything was covered. Also I think the price is just to high, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]The massage at teen dream is about 400 baht depending on how long and what kind of massage. For BBBJ they will ask for 1000 baht and full service 1500 baht but you can negociate down.

Sounds like Welkom Inn. Soi 3, I like to eat breakfast there and watch the girls sey around getting ready for work. Try this

[url]http://www.welkominnthailand.com/[/url]

Am trying to find this bar in north Pattaya I went to a few years ago. Hope it is still around. It was not very big. At the time it seemed to be one of the better places for daytime action. Had a few good looking babes. Most were in the bar but some sat outside.

Coming from the beach, walking inland a couple of blocks on I think it was Soi 4, but could be Soi 3 or 5. Walk down the street and it is on the left. This bar was daytime only for girls. Not nites. It is next to a motel. The motel was to the left as you enter the bar. I think the girls there were independents. You take them to the motel next door. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar, the street or any famous hotels next to it so I can find it?[/QUOTE]

Pattaya is changing and changing rapidly.

The north end of walking street. Circa Soi 16 has been decimated by the influx of Arabs and Russians. If you sit in the decent steak and seafood place on the corner of Soi 16 and watch the flow of people you see that nobody is with a girl anymore, it's simply a case of tourists coming to watch. When you do see the Russians / Arabs and Indians with a girl its in the coconut bar with 2+ guys haggling with one girl over the price.

I can only believe its a matter of time until X Zone closes down, as Club Boesche etc beneath it already have. As far as I know this will leave the number of old school gogo's at just Windmill (which was excellent when I was there 2 weeks ago). As a collective it would be great to see people supporting these institutions which used to make Pattaya so great.

Have to say I am no longer excited by Walking street at all (5+ years and 20 trips after first visit). Some gogo's are good, (Baccara and the big white one on the left past Angelwitch etc) all having great looking girls but the fun atmopshere has changed. {Special mention going to Secrets for having the best draft beer in Thailand and making an excellent and relaxing stop off before diving back in to the action}.

Would be great if some of the "mega" gogo's would re-locate to Soi Bukhao, Soi 7-8 etc where the beer bars and camarderie between the farangs / WG's was fantastic.

Went on to Bangkok after a week in Pattaya. Nana and Soi Cowboy packed beyond belief in all the decent gogo's. Pattaya still wins hands down as it has all the space that Bangkok doesn't. But it needs all the Farangs to stay together, drink beer, take the girls out of the bars and make it great like it always was.

Not back again till end of March.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1235925]Blasphemy! Guys, do you confirm non BBBJ at Honey Massage?

Teen Dream Message? Never heard about it. Again, address and map, please.[/QUOTE]Definitely covered in Honey. Still good though for something different.

Was in Pattaya for a few days the first part of December. Someone just mentioned Xzone and thought it might shut down. When I was ther rthey had a good quantity of guys and things were lively. Someday all will shut downbut I don't know about right away or in near future. We will see. The street had adwquate people but not as crowded as I think it should be. Many of the bars were not crowded at all. Many of the door people were very pushy tryiong to get peole to go in and have a seat. Didn't want you to look around at all. Just go in and buy a beer. Those I left immediately as I don't like the pushy attitude. Secrets looked nice and not pushy. Will return there. Enjoyed windmill and the manager seemed like a decent guy. The girls on walking street selling pussy were not a a plentiful ar I remember from before. Beach road was doing fine at 500 baht for ST.

Walked up to Soi Bukow and found Sugar Sugar. A girl says to me bar fine is 2000 on weekends. I said good luck and good bye. Was only checking it out so harm no foul. Baccara was good I thought.

Did see many Russians with wife or girl friend. Some from India and some Arabs. I do think the economy is showing, but Pattaya will be back. As far as other farlang being there, you have to expect it. It is not a secret and if you can afford it and are so inclined you are going to show up at some time or another.

Just a small trip report from my prospective

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1236118]And website doesn't mention soapy massage at all.[/QUOTE]Dream Teen is located on Soi 21 off Soi Buakhao. ([url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/contactus.html[/url])

Dream Teen do not offer a typical soapy massage experience. You pay 400THB for an hour of thai massage (can be with oil or lotion) plus the infamous ball massage which is more or less a sensually slow handjob. The girl is usually clothed and will give you the upsell in the room which has a small shower and a nice firm bed. The standard sales pitch is 500THB for HJ. 1000THB for BJ and 1500THB for intercourse. If you can resist the power of the ball massage, you can get away with just paying the base price otherwise, you can negotiate the price of the extras.

IMHO Dream Teen offer a more private and comfortable experience than the numerous 200THB per hour massage places on Soi Honey and elsewhere. Some of these places offer extras as well but the action usually take place in a communal area with mats on the floor and separated only by curtains.

Going to Pattaya in March and my flight gets into BKK about midnight. Is there really any benefit to taxi in that late or should I find a cheap room near the airport and grab a taxi the next morning?

pattaya blow job bars.

in preparation for my pat trip i am collecting a list of bjb to visit and report on. current list is as follows but there must be more. please come with suggestions to add. pm or quote.

golden girls in soi 13/2, 650 baht.

pump station.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].

bliss lounge

I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"!

Indians, Russians, Arabs. Blah blah. Don't take girls. Blah blah. Haggling on Beach Road. Blah blah.

Japanese, Koreans. Blah blah. Overspending. Blah blah. Take the best seats / girls. Blah blah.

Grow up!

I'm sure some Arabs, Russians, Japanese, Indians etc. Have their own broad stereotypes of 'farangs' which may have been conceived by personal experience or word of mouth.

I doubt many farangs on this forum would identify with those stereotypes, and may possibly consider themselves unfairly judged by them.

This pseudo-superiority complex is most unbecoming.

[QUOTE=Markharding;1236513]But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Pattaya and Jomtien, I did not see one "single" Russian lady. They were all with their husbands or BFs or mothers or children, so not good targets. Especially if you consider that the husbands / BFs were built like wrestlers. And actually many of these women were also built like wrestlers. I'll trade all of your Russian ladies for one Thai girl and I think most of us who go to Pattaya will think the same.

Hi frnz!

Had been to Pattaya some 2 yrs back under a package tour. The agent attending helped me to a Russian show in north Pattaya near the big see mall. The show was awesum as the russians used to go nude and used to choose an audience among us to do some sleazy act to the extend of gettin the guy completely nude and bathing him with some naughty acts. Generally she used to pick audience from the first row. Now again I'm planning to visit Pattaya but this time on my own arrangement. Request frnz if someone can help me locate the place who has recently visited them. The russians are with big sized assets and in best shape. Its a place worth going. Looking for some positive responses.

[QUOTE=Chachi420; 1236545]Indians, Russians, Arabs. Blah blah. Don't take girls. Blah blah. Haggling on Beach Road. Blah blah.

Japanese, Koreans. Blah blah. Overspending. Blah blah. Take the best seats / girls. Blah blah.

Grow up!

I'm sure some Arabs, Russians, Japanese, Indians etc. Have their own broad stereotypes of 'farangs' which may have been conceived by personal experience or word of mouth.

I doubt many farangs on this forum would identify with those stereotypes, and may possibly consider themselves unfairly judged by them.

This pseudo-superiority complex is most unbecoming.[/QUOTE]You only got to walk on Beach Road to see those 'sterotypes'

[QUOTE=Markharding;1236513]I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"![/QUOTE]Better yet why don't we let you chat one of them up when or if you ever come to Pattaya. And we do expect a full report. Everything seems so much easier and doable from the Ivory Tower.

[QUOTE=Rafiki89;1236419]Going to Pattaya in March and my flight gets into BKK about midnight. Is there really any benefit to taxi in that late or should I find a cheap room near the airport and grab a taxi the next morning?[/QUOTE]I would probably stay at an inexpensive hotel and take the Bell Travel bus the next morning, especially if it's a long flight. What you save by taking the bus would pay a large part of your room cost. I've used Bell Travel on several occasions and I find it to be reliable and inexpensive transportation. If you stay in their service area they will pick up at your hotel and you can schedule it online.

[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/index.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1236663]Better yet why don't we let you chat one of them up when or if you ever come to Pattaya. And we do expect a full report. Everything seems so much easier and doable from the Ivory Tower.[/QUOTE]Okay. So I spoke too fucking soon. A buddy of mine just posted a picture on facebook of them with some Russian girls on Koh Larn.

[QUOTE=Markharding;1236513]I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"![/QUOTE]If I wanted to date a Russian girl, I would go to Russia. I won't. I want Thai instead so I go to BKK and Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1236664]I would probably stay at an inexpensive hotel and take the Bell Travel bus the next morning, especially if it's a long flight. What you save by taking the bus would pay a large part of your room cost. I've used Bell Travel on several occasions and I find it to be reliable and inexpensive transportation. If you stay in their service area they will pick up at your hotel and you can schedule it online.

[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/index.php[/url][/QUOTE]I stayed at a place called Port 43 Residence near the airport before I left Thailand last week. Details below.

Port 43 Residence Suvarnabhumi Airport, *70/12 Moo 15, Soi Kingkaew 43, Kingkaew Road, Bangplee**70/12.

They had a special on booking. Com for 650 baht. Pretty basic but did the job and it was less than ten minutes to the airport. They tried to drop me off for free as well. Wouldn't have a bar of it. Paid the guy 200 baht as a tip.

If you stay there or close to there you can probably negotiate for a cheaper taxi to Pattaya than if you get one from airport. No guarantees though.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1236596]Last time I was in Pattaya and Jomtien, I did not see one "single" Russian lady. They were all with their husbands or BFs or mothers or children, so not good targets. Especially if you consider that the husbands / BFs were built like wrestlers. And actually many of these women were also built like wrestlers. I'll trade all of your Russian ladies for one Thai girl and I think most of us who go to Pattaya will think the same.[/QUOTE]Don't know how it is now but:

Last time I was in Pattaya was about 5 years ago. All the Russian women I saw were with guys. Maybe boyfriends or husbands. Not a good idea to try to pick them up. Most of them were attractive though.

I want to thank the posters who provided answers to my questions:

The Bamboo Bar in South Pattaya, Welkom Inn in North Pattaya, and the prices at Baccara.

I will be in Pattaya the first week in March and will buy you drinks if you are around. Just PM me.

By the way, I guess prices for ST and LT at other go go bars on Walking Street are probably the same as in Baccara: Asking (but negotiable) TB 2000 ST, TB 3000 LT? Yes, or is Baccara more expensive.

I will be in Pattaya for a couple of days in middle of February. Can someone suggest a place for a Mature Russian and or Mature Thai. I am more interested in mature females and the small females are not my type. I find them hard. Anyone who can help will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Harry 294;1236631]You only got to walk on Beach Road to see those 'sterotypes'[/QUOTE]Having been to Pattaya on quite a few occasions (and also many other parts of the world) , I have seen the very worst of 'farang behaviour. I don't even need a passport to see this 'stereotype', just a walk through my own town centre.

However, there are far too many decent people to allow my judgement to be clouded by the idiots.

I certainly would not allow it to impinge upon my enjoyment whilst on holiday. It seems some people enjoy the self-imposed misery of finding something to moan about.

The moral compass of a sex tourist can be very inconsistent.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1236755]I want to thank the posters who provided answers to my questions:

The Bamboo Bar in South Pattaya, Welkom Inn in North Pattaya, and the prices at Baccara.

I will be in Pattaya the first week in March and will buy you drinks if you are around. Just PM me.

By the way, I guess prices for ST and LT at other go go bars on Walking Street are probably the same as in Baccara: Asking (but negotiable) TB 2000 ST, TB 3000 LT? Yes, or is Baccara more expensive.[/QUOTE]My sweetie@Baby Dolls Soi15 is 2, 000 longtime, other day stayed till 4pm

[QUOTE=Markharding;1236513]I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"![/QUOTE]I've been going to Pattaya a few years now, and my pick up experience hasn't been so great with them.

When I tried talking to a stunner walking with her friends around 2nd road, she was very unresponsive. She told me in her broken english, she is not interested.

Then some other attempts in the Mixx disco, where they hang out a lot, but again, the same language barrier. I can't speak Russian, and they can't speak english.

But at least with the thai girls, money does all the talking.

[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1236713] (.) it was less than ten minutes to the airport. They tried to drop me off for free as well. Wouldn't have a bar of it. Paid the guy 200 baht as a tip.

If you stay there or close to there you can probably negotiate for a cheaper taxi to Pattaya than if you get one from airport. No guarantees though.[/QUOTE]If you you took a taxi and asked them to put on the meter, I doubt if you would have had to pay 100 baht. They must love you there!

Airport to Nana area is less than 300 baht on a metered taxi and this includes the tolls.

[QUOTE=Cusland; 1236208]Pattaya is changing and changing rapidly.

The north end of walking street. Circa Soi 16 has been decimated by the influx of Arabs and Russians. If you sit in the decent steak and seafood place on the corner of Soi 16 and watch the flow of people you see that nobody is with a girl anymore, it's simply a case of tourists coming to watch. When you do see the Russians / Arabs and Indians with a girl its in the coconut bar with 2+ guys haggling with one girl over the price.

I can only believe its a matter of time until X Zone closes down, as Club Boesche etc beneath it already have. As far as I know this will leave the number of old school gogo's at just Windmill (which was excellent when I was there 2 weeks ago). As a collective it would be great to see people supporting these institutions which used to make Pattaya so great.

Have to say I am no longer excited by Walking street at all (5+ years and 20 trips after first visit). Some gogo's are good, (Baccara and the big white one on the left past Angelwitch etc) all having great looking girls but the fun atmopshere has changed. {Special mention going to Secrets for having the best draft beer in Thailand and making an excellent and relaxing stop off before diving back in to the action}.

Would be great if some of the "mega" gogo's would re-locate to Soi Bukhao, Soi 7-8 etc where the beer bars and camarderie between the farangs / WG's was fantastic.

Went on to Bangkok after a week in Pattaya. Nana and Soi Cowboy packed beyond belief in all the decent gogo's. Pattaya still wins hands down as it has all the space that Bangkok doesn't. But it needs all the Farangs to stay together, drink beer, take the girls out of the bars and make it great like it always was.

Not back again till end of March.[/QUOTE]For all of those who misunderstood me and thought I was being miserable.

The title "call for support" and talking about going as a collective was really to let people know to go and see and hopefully spend some money in "the old" Pattaya before it disappears for good. Or at least disappears totally from Walking Street. I'm still happy picking up girls in beer bars and the newer clean-cut gogo's. But I have to say the old school style gogo will be sadly missed for fun and banter early in the evening

[QUOTE=ShivaInForty;1236846]I will be in Pattaya for a couple of days in middle of February. Can someone suggest a place for a Mature Russian and or Mature Thai. I am more interested in mature females and the small females are not my type. I find them hard. Anyone who can help will be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Just go to any massage parlor or any bar, or any other place for that matter. You can't miss them. (The Thais, not the Russians. See Butter's post below if you are inquiring about the Russians.)

[QUOTE=Cusland; 1236997]For all of those who misunderstood me and thought I was being miserable.

The title "call for support" and talking about going as a collective was really to let people know to go and see and hopefully spend some money in "the old" Pattaya before it disappears for good. Or at least disappears totally from Walking Street. I'm still happy picking up girls in beer bars and the newer clean-cut gogo's. But I have to say the old school style gogo will be sadly missed for fun and banter early in the evening[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you and I said basically the same thing for most of last year. Maybe my way of saying it upset a few people. The old Pattaya has disappeared. Most of the gorgeous girls who you could banter with and then who would sleep with you until gone noon the next day are virtually extinct. Replaced by a hard core of girls, most of who rate between 2 and 4 out of 10, who most people wouldn't want to sleep with. But the thing is these girls, who most Thai men would never even sleep with, are here. More are arriving and they are making money. The penny pinching farangs are paying these girls, driving the 7 to 9 bracket girls who they won't pay out of town. The younger guys now priced out of Brazil, who seem penny pinching as well, haven't helped the situation. Pattaya is now full of penny pinching farangs and the party, as some of us knew it, is over.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1235327]What is the best place in the daytime to find a 30s lady for mutual admiration? With hosting capability.[/QUOTE]Soi 6 gets going about one or two in the afternoon. By three or four all hands are on deck. Many of the bars have short time rooms on the premises. You'll pay 300 to the bar for the room and 700 to the girl. The room won't be fancy. And on Soi 6 you're generally done after you pop. Another alternative is to pick up a girl on Beach Road and head for a short time hotel. If you find a girl you fancy, she'll be able to direct you to a nearby short time hotel. Again, you'll pay about 300 baht for the hotel. The girl will run 500 to 1000, depending on her looks and how hard you haggle.

Bunky

[QUOTE]I would probably stay at an inexpensive hotel and take the Bell Travel bus the next morning, especially if it's a long flight. What you save by taking the bus would pay a large part of your room cost. I've used Bell Travel on several occasions and I find it to be reliable and inexpensive transportation. If you stay in their service area they will pick up at your hotel and you can schedule it online.[/QUOTE]This is certainly a good plan. But when I land at BKK I'm always keyed up, excited to begin my holiday. So even though it's been a 25 hour trip I'm not inclined to stop moving. My practice is to book a taxi from Khun Keak at Pattaya Taxi and head for Pattaya. At that hour there's no traffic and the trip only takes about 90 minutes. As a rule of thumb, unless there are long lines at immigration, baggage delays or lots of traffic figure three to three-and-a-half hours from landing to check in at your Pattaya hotel going down there by pre-arranged taxi.

In my case, I add my arrival day to my Pattaya hotel reservation. Yes, I pay for an "extra" day that starts about 12 hours before I check in. But that usually costs me less than any place I'd stay in Bangkok, and I like being able to check in immediately upon arrival.

This gives me options. If I'm still wired and ready to party, the Walking Street discos are at full song at 4:00 a.m, and it's a simple matter to find somebody for a quick shag. If the long trip has taken it's toll and I'm finally ready to fall asleep I can unpack, check my email and wind down with a beer or two before going to bed about 5:30 a.m. I can usually sleep six or seven hours, which goes a long way toward shifting to Pattaya time, which is 12 hours different than my home base.

Bunky

Request friends please help locate the place as post sent earler as attached.

[QUOTE=HndsomeDude143; 1236620]Hi frnz!

Had been to Pattaya some 2 yrs back under a package tour. The agent attending helped me to a Russian show in north Pattaya near the big see mall. The show was awesum as the russians used to go nude and used to choose an audience among us to do some sleazy act to the extend of gettin the guy completely nude and bathing him with some naughty acts. Generally she used to pick audience from the first row. Now again I'm planning to visit Pattaya but this time on my own arrangement. Request frnz if someone can help me locate the place who has recently visited them. The russians are with big sized assets and in best shape. Its a place worth going. Looking for some positive responses.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bunky;1237250]This is certainly a good plan. But when I land at BKK I'm always keyed up, excited to begin my holiday. So even though it's been a 25 hour trip I'm not inclined to stop moving. My practice is to book a taxi from Khun Keak at Pattaya Taxi and head for Pattaya. At that hour there's no traffic and the trip only takes about 90 minutes. As a rule of thumb, unless there are long lines at immigration, baggage delays or lots of traffic figure three to three-and-a-half hours from landing to check in at your Pattaya hotel going down there by pre-arranged taxi.[/QUOTE]Three and a half hours from touchdown to Pattaya is an extra super long overestimate by any stretch. I think you missed my post from a couple of months ago. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1207288&viewfull=1#post1207288[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1237331]Three and a half hours from touchdown to Pattaya is an extra super long overestimate by any stretch. I think you missed my post from a couple of months ago.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1207288&viewfull=1#post1207288[/url][/QUOTE]That's what I was hoping for, but I'm not sure I want to average 140 km on an autobahn after midnight, much less the road to Pattaya, LOL. Three hours works fine for me. Last time I was in Thailand it took me that long to get to Nana from the airport.

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1237234]Soi 6 gets going about one or two in the afternoon. By three or four all hands are on deck. Many of the bars have short time rooms on the premises. You'll pay 300 to the bar for the room and 700 to the girl. The room won't be fancy. And on Soi 6 you're generally done after you pop. Another alternative is to pick up a girl on Beach Road and head for a short time hotel. If you find a girl you fancy, she'll be able to direct you to a nearby short time hotel. Again, you'll pay about 300 baht for the hotel. The girl will run 500 to 1000, depending on her looks and how hard you haggle.

Bunky[/QUOTE]Haven't been to Pattaya for a while. Just wondering, are you writing about the soi 6 in Central Pattaya, or is this in South Pattaya? Also, can you give the cross streets to make it easier to find?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Rafiki89;1237432]That's what I was hoping for, but I'm not sure I want to average 140 km on an autobahn after midnight, much less the road to Pattaya, LOL. Three hours works fine for me. Last time I was in Thailand it took me that long to get to Nana from the airport.[/QUOTE]Taking a bus is also a great option. They leave once an hour from the airport for an awesome approximate 150 bht. You get there within an hour and a half. Air-conditioned with reserved seats. Room for luggage below. Similar to our greyhound busses in the states. Head down by Exit or Door #8, far left as you face out of the airport and you can buy a ticket at their service desk.

[QUOTE=Vbman;1237491]Taking a bus is also a great option. They leave once an hour from the airport for an awesome approximate 150 bht. You get there within an hour and a half. Air-conditioned with reserved seats. Room for luggage below. Similar to our greyhound busses in the states. Head down by Exit or Door #8, far left as you face out of the airport and you can buy a ticket at their service desk.[/QUOTE]What time does the last bus leave the airport for Pattaya?

1. Stayed in Soi 11 close to Soi LK metro which is full of bars etc and equidistant to Walking St and Soi 6. Use the baht buses if you don't want to walk 15 minutes.

2. Quality of all bars and clubs extremely variable from night to night. My favorites were Peppermint in Walking and Office in LK metro. Soi 6 is more short time. We went into one bar and we were not allowed to stay.

3. Massage parlours all over. All offering as far as I could see HE, most with BBBJ and some with FS (I would suspect all if the rooms were private). The massage is not always good.

4. Soapy massage down at Soi 2 and in Soi 10 (I think). I had three. All enjoyable. B1, 800 plus tip.

5. In the 7 days bar fined 3. The hostess from peppermint in mid 30's by far the best; the 20 yo stunner with no tits from submarine the worst. B2, 000. B3, 000 LT.

6. HJ while sat in Office. B500 tip.

7. About 10 other massages. Cost B300 plus tip.

8. Only looked on Beach Road. Lots on offer to suit every taste.

9. Vast amounts of lady boys. I saw one absolutely beautiful specimen on soi 6 but that is not my scene.

10. On walking St Baccara very good but places like Alcatraz nothing special.

11. Best bet is the normal bars where you can see someone that attracts.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1237507]What time does the last bus leave the airport for Pattaya?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/routes_rates.php#[/url]

Last bus leaving airport 6pm.

200 B. Dropped off at your hotel. Total time about 2hrs

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1237331]Three and a half hours from touchdown to Pattaya is an extra super long overestimate by any stretch.[/QUOTE]Mr. Enternational's hour-and-a-half trip from touchdown to Pattaya has to be a world record! Wow! I wish I had his travel karma.

Seems like I'm always stuck in row 38 of whatever jumbo jet flies me into BKK. And after eight to ten hours in the air, the folks ahead of me move slowly indeed getting off. Out in the concourse I do my best to get ahead of them by the time we reach passport control. But invariably there is a family with children or a couple of senior citizens blocking the moving sidewalk, and they are oblivious to my attempts to get by. And when I reach the immigration checkpoint I have the uncanny ability to choose the slowest possible lane. I swear this past trip ahead of me in line there were three Taliban, two international men of mystery and an alimentary canal drug smuggler.

Of course with nearly 300 people on the flight, there are lots of bags to unload. How is it that mine always come off last? After clearing customs it takes awhile to find my taxi driver in the crowd of people competing for the attention of arriving passengers. My last trip I planned to call while waiting to get my entry stamp to tell the driver she could pick me up at the curb. But the POS cell phone I bought off The Bay of E didn't work. Once we finally got together we had to hoof it out to the farthest reaches of the parking lot to get in the car. Out on the road my driver kept up a nice pace, but she was far from the fastest. And when we stopped for cold drinks at the 7-11 the place was jammed.

So it's really not that hard to spend three hours or even more getting from your landing runway to Pattaya via prearranged taxi. But I never ever mind because that drive marks the end of the long journey from my home base to the coolest vacation spot on Earth.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Henry R;1237460]Are you writing about the Soi 6 in Central Pattaya, or is this in South Pattaya? Also, can you give the cross streets to make it easier to find?[/QUOTE]The former.

Beach Road on the west and Second Road on the east.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1237539]I immediately got on the offensive with her friend by telling her that her attitude was horrific and that she was utterly bereft of manners. She might not have understood my English vocabulary, but she certainly was able to discern that I was conveying disapprobation for her crassness and selfishness in thwarting the sociosexual liaison between myself and her friend.[/QUOTE]Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.

A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.

By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1237759]Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.

A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.

By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.[/QUOTE]I always think that anyone such as him who is "constantly" having problems with Thai girl attitudes wherever they go need only to look into the mirror to discover the root of the problem.

WTF. Same flights I took last year (Delta and Korean Air) for $1400 is NOW $2300 for same dates in September!

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@bunky: hilarious!

@Lugalzaggizi, next time use your money to invest in a long, much-needed psychotherapy. I haven't seen so much negative drivel in a long time.

[quote=h pilot; 1236452]pattaya blow job bars.

in preparation for my pat trip i am collecting a list of bjb to visit and report on. current list is as follows but there must be more. please come with suggestions to add. pm or quote.

golden girls in soi 13/2, 650 baht.

pump station.

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bliss lounge[/quote]i went to pump station a few days ago. i did not buy a drink and when i got upstairs girl says 870b for bj. i think it is a rip off.

[QUOTE=Rafiki89;1236419]Going to Pattaya in March and my flight gets into BKK about midnight. Is there really any benefit to taxi in that late or should I find a cheap room near the airport and grab a taxi the next morning?[/QUOTE]I would not do either. I would get a cab to Suk and an inexpensive hotel. You can start your mongering trip with a bang in BKK, then go to Pats the next day.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1237863]I went to Pump Station a few days ago. I did not buy a drink and when I got upstairs girl says 870B for BJ. I think it is a rip off.[/QUOTE]Please post a trip report on the Pump Station. That way some of us can really tell if if you have been there or just posting bullshit as you usual do. Tell us about the upstairs bar. Etc. Have you really been there? Trip reports, what a fucking concept!

Third time to Thailand (in the last year) , first time to Pattaya. I have enjoyed Bangkok on all three occassions, however. After only a few hours here I think I've been converted. Of course, I do reserve the right to change back depending on the rest of my trip.

500THB beach road girl, ST: face 7. 5 (very cute, unlike most ladies I saw on my brief walk) , body 6. 5, service 8. 5+. I am not usually a fan of ST, but for that price vs. BJ bar to start this part of my trip off, I thought "why not?" Again, I might have been converted to ST fan. She has said she has a friend who is also OK with photos, and they like to "lick lick pussy".500THB each. 1000THB if I also want to do anal.

I'm staying at Penthouse (which I was a little wary of after reports on various Thai forums). I think I like it. I was only going to stay tonight and move on to Jasmine, though I might extend my stay here instead. The stripper pole and pron playing in the background really enhance the experience (a few minor qualms, but overall I'm content. If the 'Penthouse' forum member wants to discuss these, I am sure you can work out who I am from the info provided so far). Again: reserving the right to change my mind, depending on how I feel at checkout.

I will post reports and pictures of my endevours when time permits.

Lugalz.

Man your report is a trip! Whether you know it or not it gives a pretty good assumption as to the type of person you are?

It must be tough being a teacher in New York? Just hearing how the education system has gone down in the States I guess you don't get a lot of love or respect. You fly all the way to Asia looking / expecting everyone to love you and they don't! I would be bent out of shape too if that's all one can write in your reports. I guess you got to get it off your chest somehow? I'm here for you buddy? Let it all out!

Whether you know it or not just because someone doesn't respond and gives you a dirty look doesn't mean you have to go full steam ahead and beat them down maybe trying to win them over instead of them beating you down so you can't have a good time. Step back take a deep breath and come back in a day or so and read your report again maybe while someone is giving you a BBBJ?

Relax. Enjoy. LBM

Hi Bros;

I'm currently suffering in Pattaya, something I am unaccustomed to after three previous visits.

I am traveling with my best mate, who is not generally a monger but gleefully adopted the 'what happens in Pattaya stays in Pattaya' attitude. He's also less flush than I, and we are sort of traveling on his budget. Significantly less than mine, but hey I save money, right? We will also go to Phuket and Phi Phi while here.

I have a few questions I would like to throw out there. Then my report of night one:

1. What over the counter cold remedy do you use when here? I seem to have a cold since I stepped off the plane from cold rainy Shanghai. I've read about Tiffy.

2. Any recommendation on strong pain meds? Two ACL surgeries 20 years past plus an indulgent lifestyle rounding out my midsection has made my knees fill with firecrackers. Someone said really tough stuff can be had OTC here. Like Vicodin or Oxycontin. I don't know, I read about Tramadol and Temgesic. Thoughts?

3. VERY IMPORTANT. We need a cover story. Several friends are traveling to Thailand too, and we will run into them in Phuket. They are the judgmental type (Western women!) so we prefer to have report of a fictional first few days to cover the fact we were in Pattaya. WHat would you tell your wife / GF / priest / au pair? I was going to google to find a small beach town near BKK to use as a cover. But I think some of you may have some thoughts.

DAY 1.

Landed in BKK uneventfully. First time to travel here during high season / Chinese New Year. Taxi to Patts was great, thanks Mr Keak. However, my friend (who visited Patts years ago with his footballer buddies) refused to pre-book a room, insisting the Apex would have rooms. They did not, of course. After pounding the pavement a while we settled on Changthong House, recommended by a bro on here. I'm not thrilled with it and at 1350 (after a hard bargaining session) for the big room that was available, it's out of my buddy's budget. So, today includes looking again for a place.

After checking in we walked to Worldwide Agogo. I love that place. My crush was already in her street clothes prepared to go home with some other dude, so I had to give up on her. I saw a dancer with an amazing body and a gorgeous face, but she was a stunt performer. Placing an egg inside and. Well. Laying it. Over and over. Then she put the egg back in and lay flat on the floor, pounding her torso against the floor. She stood up, straddled a glass, and filled the glass with a cracked and running egg. I thought she looked amazing but. Something makes me not want to take home a stunt girl. Thoughts? Pussy control, etc?

We walked over to Tim Gogo (I think) on 2nd road where the music was awesome. AC / DC, Metallica, Billy Joel. One girl was particularly cute but refused to give me the time of day except to ask if I need another beer. My former take-away from there, Tai, looked awesome in long golden corn rows but was already attached to a young pimple-faced teen. She will make a man out of him I assure you.

I felt a massage happening on my neck and back, and it was quite nice. She was a bit older, tiny but with amazing eyes. She was drunk and a little melancholy, said her name was Tip. She wanted 1500LT plus the 800 barfine (let's keep discussion of whether I am a fool on bar fines and rates aside, shall we? I came prepared to purchase what I liked without too much hassle). I was with my pal and he had not found anyone, and Tip was not really my first choice. I lied and said I would come back. She kissed me deeply like a girlfriend and something sprang to attention.

As my pal and I walked out, he said, man, if you like her go back. There was that tiny one at Worldwide I liked, I will go get her. I hemmed and hawed about the price, then said fuck it, I will go for it. I went back and Tip was thrilled and deeply kissed me there.

While she was off changing, a voluptuous dance thrust her ass in my face. Coco, she said her name was (like 3/4 of the Chinese P4P girls I meet) and would I barfine her? I already made my commitment so I said no. Coco kissed me from the stage, her knee locked around a pole and her tongue exploring my tonsils.

On the way back to Soi 13, Tip became demanding, wanting to stop in this bar or that bar. I felt the cold coming on and wanted to get to the room. I bought her beer and stuff at Family Mart. She insisted on smoking a cigarette outside before coming in (I hate cigarettes. But wish I could find other smokables here) then showered and came to bed. She was slow, deliberate, included a lotion massage with the foreplay, and it was not great sex but not bad either. It's like pizza, you know? Good or bad, hey, at least you had pizza.

Second round she refused BJ and slapped me when I moved her head towards my soldier. I scolded her and she got back to the task at hand, and we made it through round 2. I could not finish. Stupid cold. She was transforming into a cold starfish.

Did I mention she was 34? Well that is what she told me in the bar, and I thought, oh well, all that experience, right? Well after round 2 she reveals she is 44. My age. Not enough to make me scream and kick her out but did not make me thrilled either. She wanted sleep by then and so did I. It was not good sleep.

Next morning she shoved me away, complaining of my snoring. When did I get a wife, for pete's sake? Her attitude turned me off and I gave her the promised money (regretting the deal all the while) and showed her the door.

Well, tonight is walking street and maybe I will go back to Worldwide and get my long time crush who I never managed to take home. Maybe Honey massage, who knows.

Either way I am not letting last night's mediocrity deter me. Pattaya is for fun and relaxation. You guys let me vent, I appreciate it, now onward!

Looking forward to the answers to my questions.

Uncle Ira

my sentiments have changed a bit. I knew rushing into converting to Pattayism from Bangkokliscism after only a few hours in town was a bad idea. I DO like beach Road (despite one scary incident yesterday) , but walking st last night was not great. I am hoping it was Mondayitis, and tonight will have as hot women and fun people as Soi Cowboy.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson;1238149]3. VERY IMPORTANT. We need a cover story. Several friends are traveling to Thailand too, and we will run into them in Phuket. They are the judgmental type (Western women!) so we prefer to have report of a fictional first few days to cover the fact we were in Pattaya. WHat would you tell your wife / GF / priest / au pair? I was going to google to find a small beach town near BKK to use as a cover. But I think some of you may have some thoughts.[/QUOTE]Have some fun. Tell the judgemental types you went to Pattaya, had the time of your life, fell in love with a 19 year old Go Go girl, and we are going to get married. Or, you could just say you went to Ko Chang and it was a beautiful island, prettier than Phuket.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1237874]Please post a trip report on the Pump Station. That way some of us can really tell if if you have been there or just posting bullshit as you usual do. Tell us about the upstairs bar. Etc. Have you really been there? Trip reports, what a fucking concept![/QUOTE]HUH? How much detail do you want? When you walk into the upstairs room the bar is to the left and the couches to the right. I sat on a couch and she blew me for 870. I think it is way too high. But, I have really never been there, so go see for yourself. By the way there are plenty of reports on the place. Why don't you learn how to RTFF.

Being prone to kidney stones I take Madola (Thai version, I believe, of Tramadol). Have another friend back in the states who also takes it though it is prescribed medicine over there.

On the cold medicine query I'll take Tiffy or Decolgen. Both might make you drowsy.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1238149]Hi Bros;

SNIPPED.

2. Any recommendation on strong pain meds? Two ACL surgeries 20 years past plus an indulgent lifestyle rounding out my midsection has made my knees fill with firecrackers. Someone said really tough stuff can be had OTC here. Like Vicodin or Oxycontin. I don't know, I read about Tramadol and Temgesic. Thoughts?

SNIPPED.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1238198]HUH? How much detail do you want? When you walk into the upstairs room the bar is to the left and the couches to the right. I sat on a couch and she blew me for 870. I think it is way too high. But, I have really never been there, so go see for yourself. By the way there are plenty of reports on the place. Why don't you learn how to RTFF.[/QUOTE]Sorry youngster, one day you will grow up and will be able to keep up with the real mongers. But until then, just keep up with your one or two line posts.

They give blow jobs at the L shape bar with cut outs with little curtains. They sit on the other side of the bar on milking stools and that is where they perform. TV with porn in the background.

I don't need to learn to RTFF, I live it and then report it.

[QUOTE=Jgm005; 1238229]Being prone to kidney stones I take Madola (Thai version, I believe, of Tramadol). Have another friend back in the states who also takes it though it is prescribed medicine over there.

On the cold medicine query I'll take Tiffy or Decolgen. Both might make you drowsy.[/QUOTE]Did you ever research what causes kidney stones, oxolates / nuts etc? And how to avoid them before they become stones eg 2 litres of water every day flushes out the miniscule crystals before they develop bigger into actual stones? Water engergises you, doesn't make you drowsy. Try avoiding stones in the first place, lots to research / read, simple remedies when you know what / how. No harm in trying natural way, worked for me.

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1237759]Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.

A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.

By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.[/QUOTE]TOO FUNNY Bunky!

Mr. Thirston Lugalzaggizi 3rd, please loosen up a little. You'll have a much better time in Patts. You are in sex paradise so it'd be a shame not to make the most of your trip.

[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1238154]I DO like beach Road (despite one scary incident yesterday) .[/QUOTE]Scary incident. Did you bump into Mr. Thirston Lugalzaggizi 3rd?

Mr. Lugalzaggizi (Thurston)

A question and a comment.

Q: What is with the doffing and donning of "boots" at the arrival and departure from Insomnia?

C: Please tell me your teaching does not "effectuate" instructing anyone regarding the English Language.

Your reports are fantastic. I can only imagine how deliciously buffoonish you must be as you walk through a disco, souring women with your mere approach. The girls must be thinking,"Why exactly did this guy travel 10, 000 miles?"

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1237759]Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.

A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.

By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.[/QUOTE]Too funny, I think you summed up Mr Luga perfectly, sounds like a total douche bag

I was looking at another website today and someone wrote a post that Coyotee's Agogo Bar had the best looking girls in Pattaya. Then I looked at the date of the post, and it was 5 years ago. Wondering if this place is still around and if the quality of the girls is still good. If it is still around, then where is it, Walking Street?

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi; 1237539]I turned my back to them, but I did see them in my peripheral vision when I glanced around the disco and the wholesome voluptuous woman was smiling and looking at me. I ignored her and turned away from her. I certainly was not going to be tantalized by her and I was ready to call it a night and simply write off the entire unfruitful and downright unpleasant experience of the disco, especially being that I expected my flight to be delayed, preventing me from even having the opportunity to hit the disco, but then I thought I might give the wholesome woman a try. It was almost 7:00 am And Muay Thai practice would begin at 8:30 a. M, so I had to act fast. She was still making eye contact with me, indicating continued interest.

It was about closing time in the disco, so people were starting to make headway to leave the club. Miraculously, she came over to me and introduced herself as Nam, indicating that she was definitely interested in me. I told her I walked away from her before due to the fact that her friend was impolite. Again, the language barrier was a problem, [/QUOTE]It wasn't my Nam was it? Probably not because she speaks damn good English, although if you speak to them anything like you write then I'm sure they probably wouldn't understand. Try using plain, basic English and not sounding like you have a stick up your ass (pun intended re your Dominican Republic posts. LOL).

[quote=henry r;1238451]i was looking at another website today and someone wrote a post that coyotee's agogo bar had the best looking girls in pattaya. then i looked at the date of the post, and it was 5 years ago. wondering if this place is still around and if the quality of the girls is still good. if it is still around, then where is it, walking street?[/quote]unfortunately, the front door to that fine establishment, located on soi marine off walking street, has been padlocked now for about the last two years.

it seems that the management ran into a bit of trouble with the authorities by employing **** talent.

the girls were cute but not quite old enough for the trade.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1238324]Scary incident. Did you bump into Mr. Thirston Lugalzaggizi 3rd?[/QUOTE]Mwahahaha. But no. Second beach Road girl I took for ST in early evening had agreed to photos, then went nuts when I tried to take pictures during sex. I apologised and deleted them in front of her. She still kept yelling, saying that no Thai women let photos be taken during "boom boom". I replied that some ladies like pictures, some even like having a go taking pictures and vids. She said that if people take pictures during "boom boom, police come and arrest" or "group of ladyboy come and beat up". I again showed her all pictures were deleted, and tried to calm her. No luck. I paid her a little extra (even though it was about 1/4ST) , finished myself off to porn on TV (I know. A waste in Pattaya) , and then set about getting rid of any pics / vids not already encrypted and stored away.

I wasn't going to go out again, as being arrested or beaten up in Thailand are not on my to-do list. However, having porn playing in background constantly, and still wanting more P4P action, I ended up out exploring a few hours later.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1238453]It wasn't my Nam was it? Probably not because she speaks damn good English, although if you speak to them anything like you write then I'm sure they probably wouldn't understand. Try using plain, basic English and not sounding like you have a stick up your ass (pun intended re your Dominican Republic posts. LOL).[/QUOTE]Maid service included. Thats nice. I like your Nam.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1238243]Sorry youngster, one day you will grow up and will be able to keep up with the real mongers. But until then, just keep up with your one or two line posts.

They give blow jobs at the L shape bar with cut outs with little curtains. They sit on the other side of the bar on milking stools and that is where they perform. TV with porn in the background.

I don't need to learn to RTFF, I live it and then report it.[/QUOTE]OK Bozo. So you read TFF, but you have obviously have never been there. To the right are the couches and chairs. There, the girl will take her top off and you can see / feel some nice tits and watch her head bouncing up and down. A lot more fun than viewing a 20 year old porn and looking at drunks at the bar. Stick to the Tijuana form, where real mongers like you hang out.

[quote=daddy07; 1238507]unfortunately, the front door to that fine establishment, located on soi marine off walking street, has been padlocked now for about the last two years.

it seems that the management ran into a bit of trouble with the authorities by employing **** talent.

the girls were cute but not quite old enough for the trade.[/quote]thanks for the info. when you wrote soi marine, it reminded me of the marine bar. i thought it was pretty good many years ago when i first went to pattaya. but the last time i went to pattaya was in 2007. i went to the marine bar then, it was a dark and dingy looking disco, and the girls were pretty unfriendly. what is the marine bar like now? worth visiting?

[QUOTE=Henry R;1238647]Thanks for the info. When you wrote Soi Marine, it reminded me of the Marine Bar. I thought it was pretty good many years ago when I first went to Pattaya. But the last time I went to Pattaya was in 2007. I went to the Marine Bar then, it was a dark and dingy looking disco, and the girls were pretty unfriendly. What is the Marine Bar like now? Worth visiting?[/QUOTE]If you are refering to Marine Disco, I wouldn't know since disco's are past my bed time.

I don't know of a Marine Bar unless it's one of those beer bars along Soi Marine. I don't frequent beer bars either since go-go's are a much better bang for the buck.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1238604]I certainly lucked out in being able to effectuate a successful commercial sex transaction with Nam in the disco Insomnia considering how poorly things started off when I arrived.[/QUOTE]Great reports Lugal. I just think you may have a different sense of humour to everyone else's. At least I'm reading them that way and laughing myself silly. Good luck in effectuating some more successful transactions.

Dear senior members,

Can you kindly inform or give me location or link to snorkelling in real Pattaya bay (not in bed, for which you have sufficiently guided).

Thanking you all for wonderful reports

Manliraj

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1238733]Great reports Lugal. I just think you may have a different sense of humour to everyone else's. At least I'm reading them that way and laughing myself silly. Good luck in effectuating some more successful transactions.[/QUOTE]Years ago on [another competing website] I fooled most with fake Pattaya reports by a guy called YoungStud. I posted all in caps, absent or incorrect grammar and I think my first title was "WHERE CAN I GET A GUN IN PATTAYA". It drove the oldsters nuts and I had a blast. The funny thing was I was in Pattaya during most of the "reporting" so when Bruce (the site owner) checked my IP he confirmed I was really in Thailand and posted to that effect increasing the credibility of the author.

It's a mystery how one could read this board and somehow get Pattaya is an escape from mass culture and boorish behavior. Dude, Pattaya IS mass culture and boorish behavior. It's about as representative of Thailand as Taco Bell is to Mexico.

Wonder where you're taking Muay Thai lessons? I usually go to Siptholek (sp?) but they moved the gym to BFE a few years ago and it's a good moto trek out there. Tuk is great at teaching elbow strikes and I've known him for years. I was interested in Fairtek but never checked it out other than going to a match there. Hard to believe you can improve in a few weeks but the individual instruction and training is awesome.

Pats was different for me as well last trip (Dec 2010). I first went there for the first time around 1990. I feel the attitudes have definitely changed although I've avoided going there in the peak of high season before.

Yet, isn't the root of suffering lack of acceptance of the inevitability of change?

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1238681]If you are refering to Marine Disco, I wouldn't know since disco's are past my bed time.

I don't know of a Marine Bar unless it's one of those beer bars along Soi Marine. I don't frequent beer bars either since go-go's are a much better bang for the buck.[/QUOTE]OK, I meant Marine Disco not Marine Bar. Last time I went there was 2007, and the girls were kind of unfriendly. To those of you who do go to discos: Is Marine Disco worth visiting now? Are there friendly freelancers there?

Daddy 07- Regarding Go Go bars being more bang for the buck than beer bars. I know the girls at Go Go Bars are better looking, but GoGo bars are also more expensive. Curious as to the reason Go Go Bars are more bang for the buck. Could you explain in more detail? Thanks

[QUOTE=Henry R;1238647]Thanks for the info. When you wrote Soi Marine, it reminded me of the Marine Bar. I thought it was pretty good many years ago when I first went to Pattaya. But the last time I went to Pattaya was in 2007. I went to the Marine Bar then, it was a dark and dingy looking disco, and the girls were pretty unfriendly. What is the Marine Bar like now? Worth visiting?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Henry R]OK, I meant Marine Disco not Marine Bar.[/QUOTE]Sounds exactly like it was in June when I went inside; dark and dingy with unfriendly women.

[QUOTE=Manliraj; 1238741]Can you kindly inform or give me location or link to snorkelling in real Pattaya bay (not in bed, for which you have sufficiently guided).[/QUOTE]I'm a scuba diver and I will tell you that snorkeling in Pattaya is not recommended. Pattaya Beach is nasty as shit and I wouldn't go near that water. Jomtien Beach is cleaner, but murky. At Koh Larn (Coral Island) the water is much clearer but there is nothing to see but sand and rocks.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1238887]I'm a scuba diver and I will tell you that snorkeling in Pattaya is not recommended. Pattaya Beach is nasty as shit and I wouldn't go near that water. Jomtien Beach is cleaner, but murky. At Koh Larn (Coral Island) the water is much clearer but there is nothing to see but sand and rocks.[/QUOTE]Pretty much spot on, I am a scuba diver also, and wouldn't dare get in Pattaya Bay, the best place in Thailand is probably Karbi, near Phi Phi islands. The water is crystal clear there, and there is a little more than sand and rocks to look at, but there is really no good place around Thailand for great diving or snorkeling. IMHO.

Hi there,

I'm new and will be making the journey from Canada to Thailand in March. Ill be staying in Pattaya for 3 nights then heading to BKK for 6.

I have a few questions, not including hotel would 5, 000 thb a day be enough to enjoy myself for the 9 nights I'm in Thailand?

In your opinion what are the 2 best Soapies in Pattaya and BKK? Best ladies not prices.

If I'm correct 3, 600 thb is for 2 ladies at Devils Den, do you recommend?

Thanks for your replies.

[QUOTE=Henry R;1238876]Daddy 07- Regarding Go Go bars being more bang for the buck than beer bars. I know the girls at Go Go Bars are better looking, but GoGo bars are also more expensive. Curious as to the reason Go Go Bars are more bang for the buck. Could you explain in more detail? Thanks[/QUOTE]Many great Go-go's are actually cheaper than beer bars if you take advantage of happy-hour drink prices. Even after happy-hour, drink prices are rougly the same as beer bars and lady drinks are also about the same.

At beer bars a girl, usually one you don't want, will attach herself to you and make you feel obligated to buy her drinks as long as you stay there, and there is no entertainment; just boring bar games and shallow chatter.

Yes, the girls you can find a go-go's are far better looking and more sexually desireable IMHO than most girls at beer bars, and the big difference is that they are up there on stage showing off their goods -- Often total nudity is on the menu -- and you don't feel obligated to buy them drinks unless you want to.

You just can't beat the entertainment at go-go's. Would you rather watch pretty girls dancing naked and showing their charms, or play connect 4 over and over while buying lady drinks and trying to carry on a stupid conversation with a fully dressed girl? For me it's a no-brainer.

When it comes to choosing a lady to take home, the fines and fees charged by the bar and your go-go girl are roughly double than what you might pay for a beer bar girl, but you usually get what you pay for.

Bottom line: If you just enjoy the great entertainment at go-go's and don't barfine girls, it's a much better value than beer bars. If you do bar fine, chances are the girl is far better looking than a beer bar girl and worth the extra cost.

I am coming to Pattaya on 29 jan sun for 7 days stay.

Now I can concentrate much on bedroom snorlkelling.

Thanks

Is Devil's Den still in business? I read a post somewhere that it closed.

It is located on Soi LK Metro off Soi Diana.

(The place sounds interesting but overpriced.)

Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. I have a few questions that I'd like to ask if possible.

Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?

In your oppinion which are the 2 best places in Pattaya and BKK for Soapies / Oilies (Best Girls not prices)?

I am interested in going to the Devils Den and from what I read it's 2 ladies for 3, 600 thb? Would you recommend?

Thanks for your time.

Cloudy and miserable day here today, but that doesn't make much difference to this paradise.

Interesting to see the past 24hrs that the influx of russians this year (I guess their economy is not in the shitter) while there's quite the decrease of tourists from rest of europe)

Each trip there seems to be less beer bars and more hotels and condos being built, Soi 8 has drastically changed in the past 5 years, sunshine hotel has taken over 1/3 of the street.

For high season / just end of peak season, hotel prices (the 600-1000B range) have remained the same or have even lowered.

Dinner traffic (630-8pm) last night on thapprya Road heading into 2nd road was jammed and so was beach Road at that hour while walking street at 730-9pm was quiet, after dinner hours hardly any traffic whatsoever.

Tonight I will see how busy this place truly is and see 1st hand if its a buyer's or seller's market in the gogos.

Strange to see something simple as 2 pc meal from KFC have a new lower price and Kamanga can be had now for 250B for a 4 pack when it was 300B last year.

Hi all,

Have been reading lately that high season in Pattaya is mot the best time to vist with prices higher and girls more picky and not willing to do LT. I am come to Pattaya end of next week and am hoping that it would be back to normal. Am I right or not?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Henry R;1239046]Is Devil's Den still in business?[/QUOTE]Still open with new management but pretty much the same girls. It's still possible to have a good time there but don't expect much help from the staff in the bar. The young guy who was there when I went the other day was so new that he didn't even know most of the girls' names, let alone their specialities.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1238951]Bottom line: If you just enjoy the great entertainment at go-go's and don't barfine girls, it's a much better value than beer bars. If you do bar fine, chances are the girl is far better looking than a beer bar girl and worth the extra cost.[/QUOTE]Good analysis. It's made me re-think my attitude towards go-go's. Might try one tonight.

I still don't know how you get over the problem that a girl who is great fun to talk to is no fun in bed. Not so big a worry for you locals, but as a casual visitor, one night spoiled is a big waste.

[QUOTE=Growtek;1238766]Years ago on [another competing website] I fooled most with fake Pattaya reports by a guy called YoungStud. I posted all in caps, absent or incorrect grammar and I think my first title was "WHERE CAN I GET A GUN IN PATTAYA". It drove the oldsters nuts and I had a blast. The funny thing was I was in Pattaya during most of the "reporting" so when Bruce (the site owner) checked my IP he confirmed I was really in Thailand and posted to that effect increasing the credibility of the author.[/QUOTE]Brilliant! You must have pissed off a lot of up-tight folk. :)

Goodbye Pattaya and Thailand, I will miss you.

I have just checked out of the Penthouse, and it has won me over. It was not totally smooth sailing at the hotel, but once I made my gripes known to reception (after checking into Jasmine Hotel for 1 night) the manager (or so I assume.a non Thai guy, probably in his 30s) set me up with a fantastic room and rate for my second stay. I will do a full report in the Penthouse section.

Most (maybe all?) of my Pattaya photos will be of Lin, the ST beach road girl that I ended up taking 4 times. Much better service than Rain (above average service, but not great) and Cherie (not good, but partly because I was too big, she was too little) that I had at Devils Den, whilst offering all the same services (all holes, lesbian). She was totally happy for photos and vids to be taken, but asked me not to put on internet or sell on VCDs. Therefore, any photos posted will have to keep her anonimity (I may even email her to ask permission. Although that would mean she would have my Psudonym email address, which although she gave me her email address and said she would send me free dirty pics and vids that she will make, I am assuming this will lead to her asking for money at some stage). She charges THB500 ST for most things (including for her half of lesbian show) , though it is THB1000 for anal. I recomend doing both of these things and getting the slightly less busy girl to video the action.

Anyway, I'm rambling as usual. Proper posts to come soon.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1239046]Is Devil's Den still in business? I read a post somewhere that it closed.

It is located on Soi LK Metro off Soi Diana.

(The place sounds interesting but overpriced.) [/QUOTE]They are still up and running but they are under new management. The owner, and the guy that ran it, had a falling out. The Devils Den moved their website to [url]www.devilsdenthailand.com[/url], as apparently the manager registered the old domain under his name or something. I don't know all the details, but they are still up and running, but I haven't tried since the old manger left. I've heard a lot of the girls were extremely loyal to him, and if he opens a new place they will flock to him.

I have gone there over the past month and I thought it was way overpriced. I found the girls not that attractive and the service mechanical. Maybe a place to try one time but I would say save your money. On the big picture 3600 is 7 Beach road girls or several trips down Soi 6.

[QUOTE=CottonBaller; 1239053]Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. I have a few questions that I'd like to ask if possible.

Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?

In your oppinion which are the 2 best places in Pattaya and BKK for Soapies / Oilies (Best Girls not prices)?

I am interested in going to the Devils Den and from what I read it's 2 ladies for 3, 600 thb? Would you recommend?

Thanks for your time.[/QUOTE]If you are worried about budget then do 3 days BKK and 6 days Pattaya. BKK is more expensive. Best sopie in BKK imo is poseidon. 3rd floor girls are hot but cost is 3000 bth and up.

For me I stsrted spending 5000 my first few days and then when I got used to the place I spent a more reasonable 3000. But depends on your activities. Devils den will cost 3600 so it can add up. My advise when you get to Pattaya don't do devils den right away. Check out the walking st scene and insomnia and beer gardens first and ease into it. The den can be a bit intkmidating and overwelming. You might not fully enjoy it if your nerves are shot.

Have fun wish I was there haha

I spend close to 2. 5hrs in and out of windmill and living dolls 2 a gogo, checked out wibdmill 1st and at betwwen 830-930pm in was relatively busy (75% full to start and 60% at the end) , couldn't find a good place to sit by the mini stage / table where 2 women play with each other, I sat by the stage and enjooyed the view and the playfullness of the ladies.

Made my way into LD2 and I stayed there for the next hour or so, the place was dead (30% full), nice looking talent and a very nice 10pm stage show topless thai style dancing.

Typical high season here, busyness fluctuates every 15 minutes, everything seem same same, including prices for women.

Always wonder if a bar could / would charge guys a 100B door fee to allow them to takes pics during their visit inside.

If I was a bar owner and it was legal under thai law, I would have a "camera night" once a month to boost revenue, it would set my bar apart from the dozens of others in Thailand / Pattaya.

We haven't had a pool in awhile here.

Would you as a potential customer pay the 100B door fee to be allowed to take pics-yes or no?

[QUOTE=Trantinr; 1239066]Hi all,

Have been reading lately that high season in Pattaya is mot the best time to vist with prices higher and girls more picky and not willing to do LT. I am come to Pattaya end of next week and am hoping that it would be back to normal. Am I right or not?

Cheers[/QUOTE]The peak of high season occured on New Year's eve but the high season, which started in November, will continue on through February and into March. Low season returns in April and lasts through October.

Don't dispair, however, as there is plenty of fun and lots of willing girls to choose from during high season. I'm sure you'll be able to find what you're looking for and have a great time!

Walking Street, where the quality action is, will be fairly crowded at the best venues all year long.

BTW -- the weather is much better, cooler and rarely rainy, during high season.

[QUOTE=CottonBaller; 1238945]Hi there,

I'm new and will be making the journey from Canada to Thailand in March. Ill be staying in Pattaya for 3 nights then heading to BKK for 6.

I have a few questions, not including hotel would 5, 000 thb a day be enough to enjoy myself for the 9 nights I'm in Thailand?

In your opinion what are the 2 best Soapies in Pattaya and BKK? Best ladies not prices.

If I'm correct 3, 600 thb is for 2 ladies at Devils Den, do you recommend?

Thanks for your replies.[/QUOTE]As mentioned before, less time in Bangkok, and more in Pattaya. I would say two nights in BKK at the most, unless you are doing the tourist thingy.

5000 THB should do fine in Pattaya.

Soapy in BKK, my favorite place in the LOS is Annies. Aey runs the place and she is a wonderful woman and she always has great recommendations. As far as Pattaya, I have not had much luck for soapies, and the quality thereof.

Skip Devil's Den, over rated and not worth the price. Instead, play around Soi 6 and find a couple of girls that play nicely together.

Have fun in the greatest monger's spot in the world!

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1239417]The peak of high season occured on New Year's eve but the high season, which started in November, will continue on through February and into March. Low season returns in April and lasts through October.

Don't dispair, however, as there is plenty of fun and lots of willing girls to choose from during high season. I'm sure you'll be able to find what you're looking for and have a great time!

Walking Street, where the quality action is, will be fairly crowded at the best venues all year long.

BTW. The weather is much better, cooler and rarely rainy, during high season.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Apprecaite the response.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1239426]Skip Devil's Den, over rated and not worth the price.[/QUOTE]Well it has a large and dedicated regular clientele, so obviously plenty of people would disagree with you there.

The key to enjoying DD is to figure out which girls will work well for you (plenty of info available on this and other boards) , and then to take charge so they don't give you their standard routine.

It's a unique place, especially now that Eden in Bangkok has gone so seriously downhill. I'd think most devoted mongers would at least want to give it a try once. If you don't like it, fine. But when it's good it's pretty damn good.

[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1238563]Mwahahaha. But no. Second beach Road girl I took for ST in early evening had agreed to photos, then went nuts when I tried to take pictures during sex. I apologised and deleted them in front of her. She still kept yelling, saying that no Thai women let photos be taken during "boom boom". I replied that some ladies like pictures, some even like having a go taking pictures and vids. She said that if people take pictures during "boom boom, police come and arrest" or "group of ladyboy come and beat up". I again showed her all pictures were deleted, and tried to calm her. No luck. I paid her a little extra (even though it was about 1/4ST)[/QUOTE]Some people say Thai working girls are stupid, and in some ways they are, but they are brilliant at scamming.

This is just one of the seemingly infinite variations of bullshit a bargirl will throw at you to take a runner with your money.

[QUOTE=CottonBaller; 1239053]Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. I have a few questions that I'd like to ask if possible.

Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?

In your oppinion which are the 2 best places in Pattaya and BKK for Soapies / Oilies (Best Girls not prices)?

I am interested in going to the Devils Den and from what I read it's 2 ladies for 3, 600 thb? Would you recommend?

Thanks for your time.[/QUOTE]For 5,000 Baht you can have a pretty good time. Buy the girls drinks, bar fine them and party, party, party. Don't be put off by members replying about how they get by on 500 a day. These guys aren't here to party, party, party.

Soapies I like Sabai land and Devils Den seems to be going through some kind of management changes. The current word seems to be leave it alone.

[QUOTE=CottonBaller; 1239053]Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. (snip)

Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?[/QUOTE]As always, the answer is "it depends".

Bangkok being more expensive than Pattaya, you can optimize your budget if you spent less time in Bangkok and more time in Pattaya.

If you came to Thailand only to study the female part of the human species, then I'd say to skip Bangkok completely. From personal experience I can tell you that there are no significant differences between the Bangkok ladies and the Pattaya ladies, except their prices.

If your main interests is to sample Thai culture and art and history, then Bangkok is the place you want to be. Pattaya is rather poor in that respect.

But 5000 Baht / day should be sufficient wherever you go. Set aside 500 baht / day for food and drinks during the day (and that means you can eat in fancy restaurants) , another 500 baht / day for extras (museum entrance, transport, other touristy things) and you have 4000 baht / day to spend on your study of the female part of the human species. Wherever you are (even in a Soi Cowboy or Walking street gogo) that will give you a few drinks for you, some ladydrinks and a nice lady going LT with you. When combining the tourist and monger aspects of your persona, I find LT gives you the best possible price / quality / fun ratio. A gogo has the benefit of allowing you to visually examine the wares on offer and rare is the gogo-girl that does not allow you some more intimate sampling of her charms after receiving a ladydrink. Aye, indeed! If you are not quick to cuddle her, she will sample you. LT allows you then to bring her to your room and then there is no time pressure, nor any other limit than your personal stamina, to have a good time.

[QUOTE=Betong;1239478]It's a unique place, especially now that Eden in Bangkok has gone so seriously downhill. I'd think most devoted mongers would at least want to give it a try once. If you don't like it, fine.[/QUOTE]Curious about Eden Club in Bangkok going downhill. I will be in Bangkok for a few days, staying a few blocks from the Eden Club. Could you give more info on how Eden in Bangkok is going downhill? Last time I was there was in 2007 and at that time I thought the girls were not as good looking as previous times. But I didn't choose anyone so I don't know what it was like.

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1237749]The former.

Beach Road on the west and Second Road on the east.

Bunky[/QUOTE]Ok, I'm getting senile, but now I remember I actually was on Soi 6 in Pattaya on my last trip to Thailand in 2007. (I didn't remember the name of the street.) I remember there were loads of bars, on both sides of the street, and about 10 girls sitting outside in front of each bar. (I saw a video of Soi 6 on You Tube yesterday and it looked just like when I was there). I remember the quality of the girls, as far as looks go, was pretty good. I did take one girl, and the room was kind of dingy. She wasn't very good in the sack, and kind of rushed a little, but that makes sense since this is a short time place. They usually are not too good in the sack if they are doing many guys short time in one day or night.

So the advantages of this place, when I was there, was lots of girls, many good looking, and cheap prices. The disadvantage, if my one time at this place is typical, is dingy room and not much time in the sack, and not quality time in the sack. I was only on Soi 6 once. Does my one-time experience sound typical to you guys who have been there often? Also, around what time at night does the action there stop?

[QUOTE=Betong;1239478]Well it has a large and dedicated regular clientele, so obviously plenty of people would disagree with you there.[/QUOTE]I understand that many would disagree with me. Mainly because DD spoon feeds two girls for the customers. However, there are plenty of places where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer.

In the years past, I have experienced DD and Eden, but nowadays it is more fun to set up my own 2-3-4 playmates.

Hi!

Never been in a BJ bar, I usually prefer to get full service (having a ride too).

On the other hand, I am going to take a long journey to get in Pattaya and arrive late at night possibly tired.

Sure I won't feel like party then but a goodnight BJ would perfectly do!

I guess there was a discussion going on about the best BJ bars around. Tried to scroll down the thread to spot it but didn't found it.

Anyway, verdict of the community?

Which are the best one around the Walking Street area and how much do they charge you?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Henry R;1239719]Could you give more info on how Eden in Bangkok is going downhill?[/QUOTE]Management just seems to be coasting on its old reputation. I don't think I've seen a young or even semi-pretty girl in there for a couple years now. Always worth a look of course but don't expect it to be like old times.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1239592]As always, the answer is "it depends".

Bangkok being more expensive than Pattaya, you can optimize your budget if you spent less time in Bangkok and more time in Pattaya.

If you came to Thailand only to study the female part of the human species, then I'd say to skip Bangkok completely. From personal experience I can tell you that there are no significant differences between the Bangkok ladies and the Pattaya ladies, except their prices.

If your main interests is to sample Thai culture and art and history, then Bangkok is the place you want to be. Pattaya is rather poor in that respect.

But 5000 Baht / day should be sufficient wherever you go. Set aside 500 baht / day for food and drinks during the day (and that means you can eat in fancy restaurants) , another 500 baht / day for extras (museum entrance, transport, other touristy things) and you have 4000 baht / day to spend on your study of the female part of the human species. Wherever you are (even in a Soi Cowboy or Walking street gogo) that will give you a few drinks for you, some ladydrinks and a nice lady going LT with you. When combining the tourist and monger aspects of your persona, I find LT gives you the best possible price / quality / fun ratio. A gogo has the benefit of allowing you to visually examine the wares on offer and rare is the gogo-girl that does not allow you some more intimate sampling of her charms after receiving a ladydrink. Aye, indeed! If you are not quick to cuddle her, she will sample you. LT allows you then to bring her to your room and then there is no time pressure, nor any other limit than your personal stamina, to have a good time.[/QUOTE]Very good info, thanks!

[QUOTE=Henry R]So the advantages of this place, when I was there, was lots of girls, many good looking, and cheap prices. The disadvantage, if my one time at this place is typical, is dingy room and not much time in the sack, and no quality time in the sack. I was only on Soi 6 once. Does my one-time experience sound typical to you guys who have been there often? Also, around what time at night does the action there stop?[/QUOTE]Your evaluation of Soi 6 is basically accurate. The short time rooms vary from bar to bar. Some are nicer than others. The better ones are IMHO nicer than "dingy." As for "quality time in the sack," that depends on what you prefer. If you want to spend hours in bed, shagging, sharing and snuggling, Soi 6 is not the place. But if your idea of "quality" is showering with your girl, followed by a bareback blow job, then moving on to multiple positions, finishing with another blow job and launching a load all over her than you've come to the right place.

What's the best time of day? I like arriving at sunset, tuning up with a drink or two, and then making my choice. The selection of girls is at its height then, and after I'm finished the evening is young. If I've got an early tee time the next day, I grab a quick bite and retire for the evening. If I suspect I'll be ready to go again later, I might go back to my room for a combat nap. In my experience, Soi 6 slows down later. By midnight you'll be better off in the beer bar complex on Sois 7 & 8, or down on Walking Street.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1239738]I understand that many would disagree with me. Mainly because DD spoon feeds two girls for the customers. However, there are plenty of places where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer.

In the years past, I have experienced DD and Eden, but nowadays it is more fun to set up my own 2-3-4 playmates.[/QUOTE]Wonderful. Seem that you are with two gals in one of the Penthouse hotel rooms?

I'm planning a 50 years old birthay party (not exaxtly on the right days) , but. A week or so in a Penthouse hotel suite, at leat with three LBFM every evening.

Any suggestions?

IT.

By the way somebody has been at Secrets Villa wich is another of my options?

[QUOTE=Henry R;1239727]So the advantages of this place, when I was there, was lots of girls, many good looking, and cheap prices.[/QUOTE]Lots of girls and cheap, for sure. Good looking, well, that's not a Soi 6 strong point. But if you sweep up and down enough you'll usually find something. I actually think it's a better drinking soi than mongering soi, but it's nice that any time you do meet someone you like, you just take her upstairs.

[QUOTE=Member #3200; 1239416]Always wonder if a bar could / would charge guys a 100B door fee to allow them to takes pics during their visit inside.

If I was a bar owner and it was legal under thai law, I would have a "camera night" once a month to boost revenue, it would set my bar apart from the dozens of others in Thailand / Pattaya.

We haven't had a pool in awhile here.

Would you as a potential customer pay the 100B door fee to be allowed to take pics-yes or no?[/QUOTE]That is a good idea.

If there are special events like model shows I would think it is common for guys to take pictures.

But if there are very friendly camera bars please let us know.

I understand most working girls do not want their picture taken, but of course some girls are not shy about it at all and want to become "stars"!

[QUOTE=Henry R;1236755]By the way, I guess prices for ST and LT at other go go bars on Walking Street are probably the same as in Baccara: Asking (but negotiable) TB 2000 ST, TB 3000 LT?[/QUOTE]A couple of data points for comparison. A girl in Silver Star on soi 7 offered me 1000 LT on Saturday. Lovely pair of breasts. It was shortly after 1AM so not long before closing time.

In soi 6 a girl sweetly announced that she wanted 1000. I declined and said that I'd love to take her upstairs, but 700 is OK. When she saw I wasn't going to get into a discussion, an older girl had a quick word with the first one, and the price dropped.

[QUOTE=It Travel; 1240086]Wonderful. Seem that you are with two gals in one of the Penthouse hotel rooms?

I'm planning a 50 years old birthay party (not exaxtly on the right days) , but. A week or so in a Penthouse hotel suite, at leat with three LBFM every evening.

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Great way to spend your 50th birthday, or any birthday, or any day for that matter.

I looked at the pool deck rooms when I was there in December, but the outdoor pool wasn't open at that time. There is an indoor pool and the girls always have fun in there. No rules of course. I thought that the pool deck rooms might get a bit noisy if there was a party in the pool, but then again, the rooms have double sliding doors in order to keep the noise out.

All of the rooms on the 5th floor have jacuzzis, which are a must. Make sure you bring 2-3 bottles of Mr. Bubble, the girls love that as well. It will be a comfy fit with three girls and yourself, I tried 4, but it was too crowded.

The rule at the Penthouse is that you can bring two girls to your room for no charge, but the 3rd girl there is a charge, not sure how much. Except, if you pull the girls out of the Penthouse club, Kitten, you can bring as many as you want. I had one hell of a Christmas party!

Pretty early on day two, we moved to Apex on Second Road. It's quite basic, a little old and shabby but clean and mostly well-maintained. It is also much more in line with my buddy's finances. 650 per night and a cheap breakfast and dinner buffet. No Wi Fi though.

It was Tuesday so we checked the Soi Buakhao market for cheap shorts and t-shirts for the trip (Bangkok, Phuket and Phi Phi are later in the itinerary). In the afternoon we went for massages. Proper massages without the extra frills. My knees were hurting and I thought it might help. We checked out Honey Massage nearby only to learn that it was a full service place only. With huge prices to match. I'd hoped to get a real massage from a pretty girl and save my superpowers for a Gogo gal later. Not far back up the Soi from Honey was another massage place with several attractive gals, and the prices were in line with what I expected a true massage place to charge.

We were led in by two ladies. The cuter one was drawn to my buddy (bastard) but that is what I get for traveling with a younger, fitter guy. My masseuse was no gorilla though, in fact quite nice. We were led into a room of beds separated by curtains. As she drew the curtains she put her finger to her mouth to tell me to keep silent in the serene atmosphere. The oil massage was thorough and professional although not hard enough.

As I expected, near the end she lightly thumps little Ira and waggles her eyebrows."How much?" I silently mouth, as other patrons are only a few feet away, separated only by linen curtains. She held up one finger. Hmmm, happy ending for only 100 Baht? Why not, I think. I nod, and she goes under the curtain to fetch something.

When she returns, she dims the light, and sets about washing little Ira. Yes, I know what you are thinking but I was still clueless at this point. Then she began to disrobe. And I got the hint. She looked fantastic, backlit by the sunlight behind the curtains, and I knew I wanted whatever was coming.

Her oral skills were strong and consistent, and she soon sheathed little Ira and sprang to the table and straddled me. She rode like she was trying to win a contest on the mechanical bull at Gilley's. But to no avail.

Earlier in the day I stopped at a pharmacy for Tramadol, which I had read about here. My knees felt no pain, and neither did any other part of me. But, as a muscle relaxant, it had the unintended side effect of preventing little Ira from expressing his joy.

I knew my buddy must be outside wondering, but no matter what the energetic masseuse tried, little Ira stayed stubbornly hard and resolute. Eventually I told her it was ok, I was just tired and I was quite pleased. I deduced that the one finger indicated ten times as much baht as I originally assumed, but she told me to give her whatever I wanted. She seemed to have bruised pride in being unable to accomplish the task. I gave her the thousand anyway because she really seemed to be frustrated with the situation.

We then returned to the hotel for a nap. We planned to take Walking Street by storm and needed to be fully rested.

I woke up again at 8pm. We ate the dinner buffet at Apex then on to Beach Road where we stopped in at Tahitian Queen. Only one gal stood out to me there, and she seemed full of herself anyway. Inquiry revealed an 800bf / 3500LT. Eh, not for you dear. She was cute and funny but it was early yet. A gaggle of other gals were huddled nearby playing Fruit Ninja on an iPad. My buddy and I commented that the owner must be out of town because the service and attention there was severely lax. Play games with us guys, ladies, and finger your iPad on your own time.

Angelwitch! I had long heard of it but sometimes on this board it's spoken of derisively, so I had not considered it. However, we loved the show. These girls were some of the hottest we had seen, and it was choreographed theatrical stuff, not the bored hip-swaying we'd seen thus far. We stayed there a while but wanted to see what else was out there.

We had heard that Windmill A go go was restored to former glory now that the owner had returned so we checked that out. This was the first place that made us wonder if there is any vetting process for quality of girls. The girls were aggressive about buying drinks and there was nothing remarkable about the dancing. A hot tub and massage Table we occupied by fully nude gals that really needed to put on some clothes. Ugh.

We moved on to Heaven Above Pattaya, and really enjoyed that place. The gals seemed to enjoy dancing, had fun with one another, and really appreciated a lady drink (once again, please keep your anti-lady drink and anti-barfine thoughts to yourself). The place was comfortable, the prices were not bad, and the music was good.

In my home in China there is a Chinese lady working in a department of my company that I rarely interact with, and therefore I rarely interact with her. However, I lust after her quite a bit. She is married and besides I do not fish off the company pier. When I saw that one of the dancers at Heaven Above was remarkably similar in appearance, I had to buy her a drink.

Bom was tiny and silly and full of energy. She spoke very little English and I could not even work out her age or where she came from. Se also could drink me under the table and was already half in the bag. Her favorite English phrase was "I like you," which she followed up with long, deep kisses and biting my neck. I was totally into the fantasy of getting with this colleague-proxy. However, I balked at the 600BF / 3000 LT fee, thinking she was great but maybe not quite worth that. The girl whose company my friend was enjoying refused to go home with him, pleading that she had to attend a karaoke birthday party later after work, but promised to go home with him for 2000LT if he came back the next night.

We chose to try Soi LK Metro next, and neither of us had timepieces so we did not realize just how late it was. Office a Go Go was disappointing, drained of energy, and on the verge of closing. It was 3 in the morning. We called it a night although we each went to bed alone. After all, tomorrow is another day.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1239738]I understand that many would disagree with me. Mainly because DD spoon feeds two girls for the customers. However, there are plenty of places where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer.

In the years past, I have experienced DD and Eden, but nowadays it is more fun to set up my own 2-3-4 playmates.[/QUOTE]Can you recommend some of these better places, and where they are located,"where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer."

[QUOTE=Henry R;1240384]Can you recommend some of these better places, and where they are located,"where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer."[/QUOTE]Soi 6 is one of the oblivious places. The open beer bars, there are always girls that are friends that will go together, and are cheaper, more fun, and will hang out in the hotel. But I always buy them food from room service, so they feel quite relaxed in the room.

I once picked up two friends from the Beer Garden, and another time 2 friends from a disco. On the recent trip, it was a few girls from X-Zone, but I've known them for a couple of years.

I met these 2 ladies at 6 in the morning, after I just arrived in Pattaya. 1000 for each and they stayed for a few hours.

I woke up with an unfulfilled Cialis-fueled pup tent in my sheets and fantasies of my co-worker as portrayed by Bom dancing in my head. I called my buddy to breakfast because I wanted to get my mind on other things.

The breakfast at Apex is substantial but not gourmet. For 120 Baht for guests it's great if you want to load up on a big meal. We never could figure out why they wrapped little sausages in bacon rather than just cooking proper bacon though.

We walked around to find a travel agent who could help us book a train ticket from Bangkok to Phuket for later in our trip. We wanted a night in Bangkok before heading south but the travel agents seemed only interested in booking buses from Pattaya.

This quest took us down Soi 6 at about 2pm and it was just waking up. The gals were not nearly as aggressive as they had been when I had walked that Si on evenings in the past, but my buddy does not find aggressive girls entertaining so it all worked out fine.

A stroll along the beach revealed the array of freelancers that we all expect, along with more and more Russians. And Russian gals. My Yellow Fever is incurable but my buddy began to long for a tall cool Svetlana if he could only obtain one.

We turned down Soi Post Office and found an efficient, reputable travel agent who proved unable to help us as well, but it at least solidified that we would have to buy the train tickets in Bangkok. We stopped at a magazine stand and found a copy of After Dark, a slick and glossy magazine about the bargirl scene. I bought it, referring to it as 'Lonely Planet Walking Street' for use in planning our further nights out.

After a short nap back at the hotel, we adjourned to Walking Street once more. We stopped at the Simon Beer Bar complex as it was still early and we wanted to plot out our evening. A look through After Dark had given me a short list of places worth checking out, assuming the gals pictured were actually working in those bars.

We had a beer at Frog, the beer bar at the front corner of the complex, because my buddy fancied a tall Chinese-looking gal there. She neglected to pay us any attention, and although there were several ladies working at this little bar, none other really caught our attention.

We wandered over to Secrets because we were hungry for dinner, and it promised to have food AND girls. It delivered with a fairly nice and extensive English pub menu. My pal's Chili Jacket potato was quite nice but my Chicken Tikka Masala Jacket Potato was not so great. What was great though, was the quality of music and girls. When we walked in I saw one of the prettiest faces I had seen in Pattaya, although (as my buddy mildly needled me about) it sat atop quite a chubby gal. She was fat, there's no other way to say it, but not USA Midwest housewife gone to pot pear-shaped fat. Instead, she was voluptuous, rubenesque, zaftig- and a face and full lips that would break your heart.

I will pause here to mention my thing for bangs. A very average looking girl can wear straight-across bangs for a hairstyle and I'll sigh like a schoolboy. I lie in China where it is a preferred hairstyle so, you can imagine.

So the fat chick had a sweet face and bangs and I could not stop looking at her. Of course I looked at the go go dancers too. My buddy was quite interested in an athletic gal with a short bob haircut- she moved like a whip and was a joy to watch. When she was not dancing she was with a customer that had bought her drinks so although she kept smiling over at him, he never had the chance to talk to her. However, the pretty chubby girl with bangs came over and introduced herself to me.

Geb is 19 and from Isaan. She had a kid 6 months ago and the dad is nowhere in sight, thus she struck out for Pattaya. She was charming and entertaining even with her limited English. I knew better, really, because it was still early and I wanted a fantasy girl, not a girlfriend experience. I wanted to keep my options open but I knew the likelihood was that Geb would not be bar fined that night. I asked, and she said the barfine was 450 and her longtime fee was 3000. (Yeah I had the same reaction you are having now- 3K for a fat chick?). I asked when she finished work and she said 4:00am. I lied through my teeth and promised to return before then.

Next, it was off to the go gos that we'd found in the magazine- two were right beside each other, Alcatraz and Fahrenheit. I tend to lead, but asked my buddy which he preferred to begin with.

"I'm more interested in Alcatraz but the girls in front of Fahrenheit are sexier," he said.

Fahrenheit made our jaws drop. At the time of this writing, we still have not found a go go with this quantity of high-quality babes. Every girl on stage, most every waitress even, seemed attractive and desirable. My eyes were immediately drawn to number 19 a tall beauty with big fake spheres and perfect bangs. However she looked cold and bored so I did not really consider her. There was also number 99, dark and tall with big breasts (Fahrenheit A Go Go had by far the largest number of really busty girls that we have seen in a go go) , whipping her hair around like a 1980's heavy metal music video. There was also a sexy, sassy dark babe with thick curly blond hair that was teasing every guy she could and literally rubbing her ass in faces of guys near the stage. We were in heaven.

A waitress nearby caught my pal's eye and he wanted to buy her a drink but she was quite busy, so he concentrated his attention on number 53: tall, perfectly proportioned, with long wavy hair. What bangs do for me, height does for my buddy. When he pointed her out onstage, I noticed one of the most amazing visions. Number 66. Again, big fake boobs, but a perfect ass, smooth skin, not that tall, and dancing like sex oozed from her pores. I had to buy her a drink. She said her name was Ying.

I thought this is a girl who really can be selective about who she chooses as a customer, so I decided that my buddy and I were now businessmen preparing to open Shanghai's first go go bar and we were traveling through Thailand as research.

She looked amazing. So much packed into a tight tiny body and no flaws to be seen, with flashing eyes that were designed to open wallets. She was quite interested in my idea to open a Go Go in Shanghai and went into business phase: How to take care of dancers, how to handle bar fine in China, visas, etc. Seems she occasionally goes to Singapore for a month at a time to dance but hates it because of all the Indians. Fahrenheit turns them away! She claimed the bar pays her 20, 000 Baht salary a month, and her 800BF / 3500LT gets her up to earning 120, 000 Baht per month to take care of her 2 year old back in her village. I expressed I was interested in discussing further in my hotel, and the LT price dropped to 3200. I still was not pleased at the total, but said I would consider it. She finished her drink and trotted off to the loo.

My mate was busy finding ways to chat with the cute waitress he had his eye on but it was a busy night. He also fancied number 53, but as he is fairly indecisive in many things it's a dilemma for him if there is more than one girl he likes. His standards are high, too. An off-duty hottie with breasts as big as her head entered the room and he decided he did not like her face. More for me I guess.

I looked up and Ying was onstage again, without so much as a "see you later." Forgetting about etiquette for the moment, I decided to buy a drink for number 99 and try the Shanghai Go Go story on her.

Her name was Nam and she was 23 and totally funny and mercenary."I saw you sitting with the small girl, and you want to buy me drink? I don't want her to box me!" she laughed, punching at the air in front of my face. I motioned for her to sit between me and my friend, and she crawled under the table to get there. She was loads of fun to talk to. She had worked as a hotel cashier for a while until she realized there was much more money to be made here. She loved dancing and hated creepy old men but was a good actress, she said. She spilled her lady drink on herself and wandered off to the bathroom to clean up. My buddy had gotten some on him too and grumbled a bit but laughed. When she returned, she managed to spill his beer on the sofa as well! She felt quite embarrassed and insisted on buying him another drink. Soon she was grinding and making out with another guy across the bar as the guy's farang lady friend looked on approvingly. The trio left together not much later.

I noticed that Ying was studiously keeping her back to me onstage and I remembered Nam's warning. I sent the waitress to buy her a drink and Ying looked back at me and shook her head. I really felt shitty, I had breached etiquette that I had read about before. At least that is how I felt. I chatted over beers with my buddy for a while and we discussed the matter (and other gals). As we were ready to leave, my buddy went to Ying who was pouting angrily in a corner and tried to apologize on my behalf, saying I only sought to get him interested in Nam. Ying would have none of it. I went there myself and said I knew she was angry and I am sorry. She dismissed me with a regal wave of her hand. Ah well, I fucked that up.

We moved next door to Alcatraz. Compared to the warm, comfortable, correctly-lit Fahrenheit, Alcatraz looked as it should. A gray-washed, cold cement prison. It was not a welcoming design. The girls on stage were unremarkable. The place was packed though, and we were given stools by the door. A massive pair of breasts caught my eye, and then I nearly lost my Tikka Masala as I followed upward to the face. I have never seen a face this ugly attached to a body this hot. Butter face would not even describe it. In what we could only deduce was plastic surgery gone horribly wrong, her face looked like a ventriloquist's dummy and halloween witch rolled into one. And I am really trying to be accurate here without hyperbole. When she smiled at us I was terrified. Grinning made it so much worse. My pal posited that perhaps she had been in a terrible accident and this was the botched plastic surgery result.

Three tall, pretty girls came around pushing tequila on us. I'm not a fan of hassle and begging to buy drinks and it just makes my friend irritable. We buy lady drinks and are happy to do so. But not when demanded.

We moved to a booth when one became available, wondering if it was worth staying. I still felt really bad for hurting Ying's pride, and my friend suggested I have ascot of the tequila to boost my spirits.

The tequila girl was tall and thin in a blue bikini and a big pleasantly-toothy grin. She was much too thin for my tastes, but I loved her face and attitude. She said she loved to dance but was ashamed because her breasts were so small. She was saving up for a 25000 Baht implant job. She told me of her child down in her village, and her loving but estranged ex-husband who worked in Poland as a chef for a Thai restaurant. I found her appealing but she said she would never go home with a customer. So far, in her several months here, she had met only farang butterflies which was what she expected. She would not go home with a man without feeling for him, and that would not happen in a bar. I felt refreshed by her story (and I don't assume it was true but I choose to believe these stories are true until proven otherwise) and she kissed me. She then asked me to buy tequila for her and her friend. At which point we vacated.

My buddy wanted to go back in to Fahrenheit to talk to the waitress and maybe number 53. I only wanted to go in there if I could smooth things over with Ying. Yes, now I wanted to take her home but mostly I did not want her thinking I was a dick. I could not bring myself to return there, so I chose to go back to Heaven Above Pattaya and secure my co-worker fantasy. My buddy agreed to meet me there if things failed at Fahrenheit and he could gather his Heaven Above chick too, now that the birthday party from yesterday had passed.

Bom was happy to see me and kissed me right away. Wow, she was sloshed but full of energy. She loved dancing so much but did not take it that seriously at all. It was near closing time, and I bought her a drink and discussed taking her home. She was excited, kissing me, shouting "I like you, I like you!" Her drunken state reduced her English vocabulary from 5 words to none so the mama was called in to translate. I wanted to make sure Bom understand long-time meant several boom-boom and smoke me. Bom shook her head at the idea of going down on me, so I said thanks but no thanks. I stuffed a couple bills in her panty waistband when my buddy walked in the door.

When I had come in I saw his gal from the previous night but now she was nowhere to be seen. The bar was closing slowly, girls evaporating into the pre-dawn darkness, but several gals and mongers were still around. He and I walked down the stairs, and he discussed going back to Secrets for the athletic dancer with the little bob haircut. I suggested we go back up to Heaven Above and ask for his girl before we disappear, and frankly I wanted to see Bom once more.

The mama did not know where my buddy's gal had gone, but explained that Bom WANTED to go with me and did not refuse to smoke, she just had never done that and was afraid she'd mess it up. Turns out she's only been in Pattaya two weeks and had never been bar fined. I told Mama I would teach her and gave the bar fine and Mama hustled Bom off to get dressed. My buddy cautioned me against taking an inexperienced girl, but I was resolute. I wanted to bang my co-worker in some fashion.

Bom and I bounced off into the night, and she was as bubbly as ever. My buddy strode off to Secrets to obtain that little bob-haired dancer. The baht bus drivers were pulling their usual 3 AM trick of becoming private taxis instead of ferrying people as they should, so we walked a bit and found a decent baht bus for usual fare.

She left her I'd with the mildly disapproving bellboy and we adjourned to the room. After her shower I learned that her costume did a lot to lift and enhance her figure. I was not thrilled but I wanted my colleague! When she began to go down on me it was totally clear that she was NOT inexperienced at this. I wondered what game was being played here.

As she sheathed me, some English returned to her vocabulary and she conveyed she was tired and only wanted one boom boom then go home, is that ok? I said sure, for short time price. She smiled in her confusion and I patiently used hand signals, pidgin English, and mental telepathy until she understood. Less money for one time then leave. She accepted, she did not want to stay the night.

As I finished with her riding me, she pumped her fists in the air victoriously, shouting "Yay! Yay! Woohoo!" like we had just scored a winning point. That felt just weird. She dismounted, got dressed and prepared to leave. As she was dressing a text message came in from my buddy. He was at Secrets where some high-roller had bought Bob-hair and six other girls round after round of drinks and she could not escape, although her meaningful glances and messages from the mamasan indicated that she wanted him and he should wait. The text was time-stamped as 3:11AM, and a plan hatched in my head to make this a memorable night.

I dressed, shot downstairs and grabbed a motorbike to walking street. As I walked into Secrets, it was just about 4am and there was Geb, dressed in street clothes and about to leave. She was shocked and happy to see me. Although not as shocked as my pal was. I paid Geb's barfine and indicated to her I wanted to wake up beside her. She pushed for short time because of the late hour and she wanted to sleep in her own bed, and I said,"Let's do short-time then after we can discuss if we make it long time." She agreed.

We sat with my buddy and glared at the high roller as it neared 4:30 and no sign of leaving. The farang owner of Secrets stood beside the old punter, minding and managing the table. An older waitress indicated to me that this man had bought a large number of drinks for everyone and the owner refused to let Bob leave for my friend, not until released from the party by the old man's departure. Luckily though he had already bar fined another so we assumed we just had to wait out the storm.

By nearly 4:45 though there was no sign of it letting up, so Geb and I left, trailed by my slightly morose buddy. Bob seemed regretful in her parting gaze. Geb found my pal's sadness endearing.

Geb did not want to stay longtime but she did give me a wonderful girlfriend experience. We did two rounds, and in between, Geb offered and performed a thorough massage. As she prepared to leave she declared me her tilak and begged me to take her again the next night. I lied and said I would be there. I did not return to her because I knew if I did I would become addicted.

Pattaya Vs Phuket Trip Observations.

I ended up in Pattaya because Phuket is much more expensive (double?) and because of price fixing and because accommodation costs about double. Actually 3 days in HKT. 3 in BKK and 7 in Patts.

Pattaya (8-18 Dec 2011) was not that busy, trade for owners I don't think was great, and year on year, the attitude of the girls had gone way down, and the expectations of money was not aligned to the number of customers, and even on rainy nights. Just 3 blokes in Office go go. Go go asking prices were a lot / same as if it were full. Sorry Office. There is a lot to be said by being realistic.

In Phuket, the strips or sois are laid out much better, and best of all the gogo dancers can actually shake their booty like Brazilians or belly dancers, that is a firm ripe 19 year old tight near fat free bum actually wobbles. Serious international training and practice. It makes your tounge hang out when you see it done properly. Phuket has fewer '5's and belows in the bars. The fuglies migrate to massage shops. But 2000 for common BG ST, they can go jump, or 3000up for LT. Getme outa here. I think Christin's was 3500 Vs 1800 for Soi Honey. Rip off.

In Phuket you can find good Norwegian and Swedish meatball palaces for 280bt and up. As nothing was cheap, I decided to hit the busses. Airfare is high too. HJ there is more than Soi 6. But in the main strip, the shows and dancing was far better. Bar owners can work here, and the tuk tuk mafia can do as they please.

In Pattaya each beer bar in the halls seem to play their own music, whereas in Phuket, one track seems to be from the entertainment centre : This is better for the customers. But far less nudity in Phuket, or more hidden at the back of seadragon. Beers also more expensive.

Back in Pattaya, at LK metro, B-bong was booked out so

I tried the place across the road that was sold for a song. Greeted with 'I must F*k you. Barfine me now' before I crossed the threshold. Normally I do not go for a average chubby one. But the attitude screamed a dare. So I did. LT. But only after establishing LT meant LT. No sick buffalos and she wanted FUN, and not an act. Yes to all. At 300 bt and 1000 Lt I had nothing to loose. Or did I?

Ironed out my flight stresses straight away with the I fk you broad. But it was ordinary and detached, soul-less. No way was she a keeper. It had been a big act all along, and I had fallen sucker to a brash act. I needed a 'stunner' and to go on the prowl. For old times sake.

At LK Metro Stags Head? Had an medium attractive one. Homely but no visible tattoo's. Rainy and miserable. Worst business. Super SLOW.

Manager greeted me, good english and I explained what I wanted. One that is fun, straight sex only, and as a 48 yo an easy person for company. I also explained I offer low because of this, but tip if all is well. Firm but fair. But I want LT and not a runner. Bought a beer for both. How much? 2000ST+BF.

I countered 1500 LT, explaining my 'rules' and if I like you keep you few days as I just arrived, maybe tip more. Counter counter 1500 ST. Now it was late. 12PM'ish and VERY slow in LK.

Now I knew this gal needed a BF, I was an easy customer, but nooooo 1800 was the counter.

I said 'bill'. Manager was shocked, as if customers always 'cave' but I said look soapy on LK HOney is 1800 a sure thing. Soi 6 is close. I told you I was wise, but you missed the signals, but obviously, this one wants to gamble. Sometimes you loose. BTW Girl had no takers for next 3 nights.

So Girls at Pattaya bars, get ready for the 'take the offer' or I go. No negotiation. Up to you for a change. Oh do figure my age, at 48 my staying power and enjoyment is not the same as someone younger. Happy to walk, as I had a BF already.

In Windmill Pattaya, I saw just one capable of booty shaking, but it had no number on wrist or elsewhere, shorter hair, dyed awfully, and could be a LB. Just two other girls could achieve 70% tempo. The lesbian hair dragging and banging their heads into metal pillars with a thud, was good world wide wrestling acting, about the only place there that 'trains' its girls, and puts on variety.

After a wander to WS and back to reclaim my girl.

I felt my LT had transformed, and . There was coldness. I said am I going to enjoy morning and she said probably not. I said OK, go.

Note to new owner: First impressions matter hugely if staying at 'your place'. If the first is a dud, more barfines and lots of beer drinking vanish. That one girls attitude. Pump and dump poisioned. Her mates chances of being fined for the next 7 nights. Lucky the place at 550 night was value enough for me not to want to move. Nearly next to Devils Den.

In the next few nights, I did 'soapies' as they were sure fire successes, hassle free. And a bargain compared to HKT. My favorite young one in Soi Honey was promoted to a blue tag (red=1800) blue =2300. So Honey lost 70% of my business to the other soapies. Opposite LK metro, I found a massage place fairly opposite Sugar, for 800 all in, in case I still felt frisky before bed. Place was a dive, but emptyish, and one

Mature one. Knew how to revive exhaused members.

Wandering down soi Buk. I passed Pook bar a lot, but my LB senses said keep walking. Dunno if I was right to ignore this place.

At one of the big beer bar hall near the entrance of WS, couple of years ago 300BF and 1000 bt after 11 you had a huge selection. This year same number of girls but LT asking was 2000. WTF. These are 6'es. Maybe I have grown bigger and less handsome. 1500. No (I walk). Very confused. I guess it was contrived for pre-Christmas. Sorry. I don't play. Me walk.

Business was SOOO slow and crook then, I think someone said 'fireworks'. I think the fireworks on 15- 16-17 and extended walking street nights. Worked business up on the beach, and stripped customers from 2nd / 3rd road. Very lonely and depressing looking girls looking for customers. Well, one day they will figure out a 2 for one 'sale' is better than an empty nest with no 'orders'.

In conclusion Pattaya wins hand down. I do believe the girls are greedy, and not factoring in age, and nett demand and the GFC. Fine, Beach Road, Soi 6 and Soapys be it then, and the 22 year old studleys on Vitamin K can ram them raw. There are new customers in town wanting value.

As for Phuket, When I say price fixing, the local tuk tuk mafia actually shoot dead bus drivers, or sabotage brake lines. Maybe some of this rubs off on bar fines and negotiable rates. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqcsGEO9IY[/url]. I could not figure out why so high, so I beat it to BKK and Annies. BKK was no fun, not cheap, so Pattaya was the solution.

Before leaving. I had a lot of money, unspent, mostly because WS joints had unrealistic expectations and because I think owners and girls were not adjusting to reality. Next time I hit Pattaya low season.

[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1240449]Pattaya Vs Phuket Trip Observations.

I ended up in Pattaya because Phuket is much more expensive (double?) and because of price fixing and because accommodation costs about double. Actually 3 days in HKT. 3 in BKK and 7 in Patts.[/QUOTE]Having read your exceedingly depressing report, with it's emphasis upon cost and expense above all else, it is apparent to me that you had no fun at all, but certainly do live up to your ISG handle. The girls you interacted with must have sensed that as well.

Pity.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1240373]We moved on to Heaven Above Pattaya, and really enjoyed that place. The gals seemed to enjoy dancing, had fun with one another, and really appreciated a lady drink (once again, please keep your anti-lady drink and anti-barfine thoughts to yourself). The place was comfortable, the prices were not bad, and the music was good.

In my home in China there is a Chinese lady working in a department of my company that I rarely interact with, and therefore I rarely interact with her. However, I lust after her quite a bit. She is married and besides I do not fish off the company pier. When I saw that one of the dancers at Heaven Above was remarkably similar in appearance, I had to buy her a drink.

Bom was tiny and silly and full of energy. She spoke very little English and I could not even work out her age or where she came from. Se also could drink me under the table and was already half in the bag. Her favorite English phrase was "I like you," which she followed up with long, deep kisses and biting my neck. I was totally into the fantasy of getting with this colleague-proxy. However, I balked at the 600BF / 3000 LT fee, thinking she was great but maybe not quite worth that. The girl whose company my friend was enjoying refused to go home with him, pleading that she had to attend a karaoke birthday party later after work, but promised to go home with him for 2000LT if he came back the next night.

We chose to try Soi LK Metro next, and neither of us had timepieces so we did not realize just how late it was. Office a Go Go was disappointing, drained of energy, and on the verge of closing. It was 3 in the morning. We called it a night although we each went to bed alone. After all, tomorrow is another day.[/QUOTE]You are right. Tomorrow is another day, but IMHO you blew last night. You should have taken little Bom and had a memorable evening. If Walking Street prices are outside your budget, then go to Soi 7 & Soi 8. I think your friend's financial constraints is affecting you. My trip strategy is not to give a shit about prices, to pay up for quality, and enjoy things. I am not talking about overpaying, just paying the going rate for what I want when I want it. And 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT is the going rate these days in high end Walking Street Go Go's like Heaven's Above. Read Keeniu's depressing report below and judge for yourself if fighting the going price is worthwhile. Think about it, a 1000bt stood between you and fulfilling an office fantasy 3x over with a cute girl. Cut back on the Starbuck's overpriced coffee when you get back home and enjoy yourself in Pattaya. What is your money for, if not to have a good time.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1240225]In soi 6 a girl sweetly announced that she wanted 1000. I declined and said that I'd love to take her upstairs, but 700 is OK. When she saw I wasn't going to get into a discussion, an older girl had a quick word with the first one, and the price dropped.[/QUOTE]When you take a Soi6 girl upstairs are you supposed to pay barfine as well as room rate?

So how much is going to be total damage for 1 shot: 300 + 300 +. Guess 700/1. 000?

I had almost the same experience on Soi 6 last December. I stopped for a beer at the queens hotel, (I think that is the name) and did some observing of the surrounding ladies. Across the street was Red Spot. I had been there before and knew the operation. So I soon spot what I thought would be interesting to try out. I go get her and bring her inside. Offer a drink and start to talk. Then I ask the magic question and she says yes. She then says she wants 1000 baht + 300 for the room. I said I was not new and that was a little high. She stuck to her offer and so, she lost her commission. No F#, no baht. So I moved on and found what I ws looking for at a reasonable rate.

I guess it should be a warning to those who visit soi 6 that the pricing of 700+300 might not be offered and accepted. Some how I thing she figured she could get the extra. Figured wrong.

[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1240449]Manager greeted me, good english and I explained what I wanted. One that is fun, straight sex only, and as a 48 yo an easy person for company. I also explained I offer low because of this, but tip if all is well. Firm but fair. But I want LT and not a runner. Bought a beer for both. How much? 2000ST+BF.

In conclusion Pattaya wins hand down. I do believe the girls are greedy, and not factoring in age, and nett demand and the GFC.

Before leaving. I had a lot of money, unspent, mostly because WS joints had unrealistic expectations and because I think owners and girls were not adjusting to reality. Next time I hit Pattaya low season.[/QUOTE]Actually the girls ARE factoring in age. It's just that because you are 48 you are expecting them to charge you less than say a 25 year old. When in fact, because you are 48 they are charging you more than a 25 year old. If you think their prices are high now, wait until you reach 65. I think you were the one with the unrealistic expectations.

Secrets.

Someone reminded me of what happened there when I went in wasted one night. Not too long after sitting down I was accosted by a larger woman I had no interest in. But being a nice guy I bought her a drink. Then one for the foreigner manager bloke.

As an aside, I did this quite a few times, buying the managers a drink at bars in Pattaya. And it paid off in a drink back plus when there was a problem they were attentive. Especially when you go alone this works well.

Anyway, SECRETS, so a girl was brought forward and I was interested. She said something like 3500 LT and I said I needed to go to the ATM so off I went. When I got back she was more or less ready to go. Quite a bit of stuff was said in Thai and while I don't understand it I thought it was something about the LT being shortened without my knowledge. So I added a stipulation that if LT was shortened at all, and the agreed 10am departure changed, that I would pay a lot less. How much? 200 baht. WELL! Off this girl went to the other side of the bar.

Of course I learned this here. Many thanks to the crew!

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson;1240410]This quest took us down Soi 6 at about 2pm and it was just waking up. The gals were not nearly as aggressive as they had been when I had walked that Si on evenings in the past, but my buddy does not find aggressive girls entertaining so it all worked out fine.[/QUOTE]I have noticed this as well. I don't know what the hell happened. I only go Soi 6 to show new guys the scene and see how they react to it. But it is apparent that the girls do less shouting, running out, and grabbing as before. It's almost as if they have become civilized.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1240705]Actually the girls ARE factoring in age. It's just that because you are 48 you are expecting them to charge you less than say a 25 year old. When in fact, because you are 48 they are charging you more than a 25 year old. If you think their prices are high now, wait until you reach 65. I think you were the one with the unrealistic expectations.[/QUOTE]Actually, Mr. E, I'm 65 now and haven't noticed any price discrimination against older guys in Pattaya, especially in the go-go bars where the quality girls are found. They appreicate the more seasoned men who don't want to pound the shit out of them every half hour and generally treat them a lot better than younger men.

I don't go to Soi 6 very often because it's awfully difficult to spot a pretty face among the crowds of ordinary and even ugly girls, both old and young, but when I do go there, and find something satisfactory, I'm charged the same 700 baht + 300 for the room as anyone else.

I hope for your sake that you are lucky enough to make it to 65 like me. Believe me, you'll enjoy the girls even more.

Well I don't post much, but here is my take on prices from the ladies.

When I first came over here 10 years ago I came with a co / worker.

He was and still is tight with his money.

He would try for the cheapest rate. Then the ladies found out he wanted more things than she agreed to.

For the same rate.

Found out later he was kinda rough so to speak with them.

Word got out fast. The girls would jack up the rate on him.

Had some flat out say no. Their choice.

He got mad at me one night as the girl told him no, then proceeds to sit on my lap and whisper in my ear 1000 baht all night.

Damm he was mad the next morning when he saw her with having morning coffee.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1240744]Actually, Mr. E, I'm 65 now and haven't noticed any price discrimination against older guys in Pattaya, especially in the go-go bars where the quality girls are found. They appreicate the more seasoned men who don't want to pound the shit out of them every half hour and generally treat them a lot better than younger men.

I don't go to Soi 6 very often because it's awfully difficult to spot a pretty face among the crowds of ordinary and even ugly girls, both old and young, but when I do go there, and find something satisfactory, I'm charged the same 700 baht + 300 for the room as anyone else.

I hope for your sake that you are lucky enough to make it to 65 like me. Believe me, you'll enjoy the girls even more.[/QUOTE]I've seen Pattaya "bon vivant" Daddy in action. He is one smooth operator who hooks some very pretty young ladies.

A lot of guys, young & old, could learn a lot from him. Sorry, no photos, though. ;-)

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1240744]I hope for your sake that you are lucky enough to make it to 65 like me. Believe me, you'll enjoy the girls even more.[/QUOTE]Daddy, I'm curious what you mean by this, can you elaborate? It gives me something to look forward to ;)

I think the age thing depends on the girl's personality. I've seen girls who like old men and just refuse to go with young guys because they don't want to work as hard and have to perform multiple times. On the other hand, some girls don't like to fuck old men and they will refuse to go with someone who is too old as they see that as "too disgusting" (no offense). My favorite pro (who sleeps with me for free) will always say she is already booked if an old dude wants her. She doesn't need the money that badly and would rather pass than do something she doesn't feel like doing.

I guess it also depends of how much you've let yourself go with age, eg if a guy is 80 pounds overweight etc; and whether you are well put together or not.

[url]http://www.pattayagogos.com/barsb.asp[/url]

Barbie Bar.

Reviwer writes "no barfine". Somebody knows this venue?

Do you confirm?

Maybe I go and check by myself. Didn't get location, yet.

It says: Soi Chayaphun (no idea where it is) and if you click on it links to same old LK Metro. Is it there?

Sure age got something to do with it. From my experience it could be some girls have a image of you and just don't want to go because of the way you look so they either tell you they are booked later or charge you more. I have one that calls me sometimes and ask me to do her a favor and come down and have a drink with her so that she doesn't have to go with a particular customer.

There are some guys that just don't get it. They wants this and want that for the cheapest price and even what time they actually want it and when you can leave. Unless she is desperate they won't go with you no matter what your age. Sure if a young girl wants to be with a young guy but in the end if she has the eye for you and plans for you to be #1, you better have some $$$$ because in the end it begins and ends with just that!

Many of the girls know that the old guys like to take the V. And no girls wants to be pounded for a hour by some old f-k, overweight? Baldheaded senile cheap sucker? Many of the girls won't even come with me because they know there isn't a future with me! Even when they know I'm no cheap charlie?

I know this guy 74 years of age. Keeps himself in good shape and has a youthful attitude and he gets what he wants of course he has to pay for it! Now I've seen Daddy07, AKA King of Jomtien in action! He keeps licking and keeps ticking! One young stunner on WS told me in Thai and I will translate " He is a real man "

LBM

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1240796]Daddy, I'm curious what you mean by this, can you elaborate? It gives me something to look forward to ;)[/QUOTE]Fon Tok and LBM are far too kind. They're a couple of old buggers too and neither one of them has the least bit of difficulty finding succulent young beauties to play with.

Sure, some girls don't want to go with older guys. I don't get every girl I want, but there are plenty of stunners who just love an older guy as long as he presents himself well, has a good attitude, and treats them well. That doesn't mean that the older guy has to pay more money. It just means that the girl enjoys the experience more than with a younger guy with a demanding attitude.

I didn't get involved in the mongering scene until I was 60 years old when I discovered Pattaya Thailand and was litterally blown away by the place. I've had more fun with girls in the last 5 years than at any other time in my life. I can't perform as well as I used to in my youth but I can still make the little bunnies explode and they do like that and so do I. I just appreciate them much more now than I ever did before.

I make no demands on them; don't become attached; they know I'm a butterfly, and what ever happens happens. I've recently made friends with a lovely little 35k spinner; a 19 year-old affectionate hard body go-go girl sweetheart who doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned about mya age. I can ring her bell as good or better than a young stud and she won't have to go through a meat grinder in the process.

And I'm looking forward to the next one; and the next; it just never ends.

Life is good at 65.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1241042]I didn't get involved in the mongering scene until I was 60 years old when I discovered Pattaya Thailand and was litterally blown away by the place.[/QUOTE]LOL...do you ever find yourself regretting those 40+ wasted years until you discovered the scene?

However, there is something gallant about an old battleship sailing off into the sunset with all guns blazing:).

Certainly sounds like a way to stay young at heart.

It's rather heartwarming to read experiences like that. Life is only one and it's NEVER late to start enjoying it to the full. I feel sorry for those who never make it and never start enjoing it. Moreover, some even resist and try to lock themselves out in their little and boring bubble. I'm happy for you Daddy07. I hope I'll still be in the same place (or somewhere nearby... Asian chicks are not just about Thailand :D) doing the same thing once I'll get to where you are (I'm still in my 20's at the moment). Just because it's fun. So why the hell not? :)

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111].we were off to the LK Renaissance Hotel.[/QUOTE]
Huh?

Please tell us if your ST session with the Soi 6 lady was longer than it took me to read your post? ;)

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1241087]It's rather heartwarming to read experiences like that. Life is only one and it's NEVER late to start enjoying it to the full. I feel sorry for those who never make it and never start enjoing it.[/QUOTE]You can't miss what you never had.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1240480]Having read your exceedingly depressing report, with it's emphasis upon cost and expense above all else, it is apparent to me that you had no fun at all, but certainly do live up to your ISG handle. The girls you interacted with must have sensed that as well.

Pity.[/QUOTE]I had great fun! I was there in July too. Age was not problem. I only added 5 months, and was dressing smartly. And that is a definite yes to pulling in catches. I had a room with a double bed and a single bed. So I could BF. And prowl and BF again. I also had hot soapy numbers spied out and flawless performances by girl with the inlaid diamonds in her excisors (teeth). No matter what, you cannot loose in Pattaya or very hard to do.

When shopping I want to BF my entertainment before midnight, preferably before 10PM. Now that does impact getting LT'ers.

What is DID prove was even though the market was not there, nearly everyone was demanding 500+ bt more, and 1000 for a gogo dancer because it was high season, or because they only wanted ST. Unless you had then from July and dammit. They remember.

It is true BFing on LK Metro at 10-11 AM was better and cheaper for me, and when I found an old sim, card all was good.

GoGo girls and no BF. But not going to name them as bar owners foam at the mouth in 'peak season'.

On those days the fireworks / Beach Road activities. And extension. Denuded the bars on 2nd and the surrounding soi's.

Now will that cause them to drop prices. Nooo.

The one problem in Pattaya is buyer remorse. You BF a pretty at 11am, go on the hunt, see a must have 'gogo' girl, do it and come back shagged. Vitamin V does help, but after a few days I need a day of rest. On these days I throw low bids, and either cave and have sex, or take their number. I did a lot of the former, so came back needing a holiday.

Nope, Pattaya is tops, all ages and looks and degrees of drunkedness. But it does mean TIMING is more important than ever.

Whatever the street is on Soi Buk and heading to Hyatt was my happiest hunting ground after LK Metro. I have more and happier reports to make.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi; 1241111]I dressed casually in a pair of shorts and short-sleeve button down shirt and had a mototaxi take me down to Soi 6. In my earlier reconnaissance of Soi 6 during my longboard session I noticed that the highest concentration of bars and the more attractive women were on this infamous enclave of debauched concupiscence...

I walked past a myriad of bars on Soi 6...

I then got down to asking her whether she was interested in me and whether or not she was attracted to me. In retrospect, such an inquiry was really to no avail, for I found that the Thai sex workers in Pattaya were by-and-large commercially oriented. Research has indicated that a female brain operates like a Miss Marple Detective Agency-...

It would take me some time to get use to the ubiquity of the emphasis on monetary exchange and dearth of affection and emotional bonds between monger and sex worker in Pattaya. Eventually, I would adapt and simply ask the sex workers, after a few minutes of introductions, whether or not they would be interested in short-time with me at the LK Renaissance hotel...

I donned my helmet and motorcycle boots and we were off to the LK Renaissance Hotel...[/QUOTE]Every time I read one of these reports it reminds me of the main character in A Confederacy of Dunces. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces[/url]

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111]Her name was Pang.[/QUOTE]What a name for a sex worker. In Thai it means expensive.

Clearly, Lugalzaggizi is an art project of some sort.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111]. I then got down to asking her whether she was interested in me and whether or not she was attracted to me. In retrospect, such an inquiry was really to no avail, for I found that the Thai sex workers in Pattaya were by-and-large commercially oriented. .[/QUOTE]You mean that we have to pay a sex worker?

[QUOTE=Mackin;1240635]I guess it should be a warning to those who visit soi 6 that the pricing of 700+300 might not be offered and accepted. Some how I thing she figured she could get the extra. Figured wrong.[/QUOTE]Figured wrong for you. May have gotten the B1000 she wanted from the next guy, five minutes later.

A small but growing number of Soi 6 girls are now asking for B1000. They figure they can get it because, well, they often do get it. It's a free market, both for buyer and seller.

[QUOTE=Betong; 1241229]Figured wrong for you. May have gotten the B1000 she wanted from the next guy, five minutes later.

A small but growing number of Soi 6 girls are now asking for B1000. They figure they can get it because, well, they often do get it. It's a free market, both for buyer and seller.[/QUOTE]They can ask what they want. They are technically independent contractors there. The bar keeps the 300 and the girls keep all of what they get. The one thing I have not seen there is a huge Japan / Korean influx yet. There are some, but not like the BKK Gogo's now that are 80-90% with inflated prices now. Once they come in major numbers, prices will go way up.

[QUOTE=Betong;1241229]A small but growing number of Soi 6 girls are now asking for B1000. They figure they can get it because, well, they often do get it. It's a free market, both for buyer and seller.[/QUOTE]Actually I can count the number of times I've been asked for 1000 over the last few years on one hand. I got that a few times at Clansman bar, and then last weekend from that one I mentioned, who said that she wanted more because she's new there. I can't remember whether I've actually ever paid the 1000 asked.

Some of the MILF types at Route 66 or Red Point have also been happy with 500. It's been at least a year since I've tried one of them though.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111]I am not saying that a sex worker does not want attractive and fit men, but physical attractiveness takes a distant second to monetary benefits.[/QUOTE]By Jove! Do you mean that all those ladies that called me "hansum man" on the street did not mean it and were just out to get my money?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1241347]By Jove! Do you mean that all those ladies that called me "hansum man" on the street did not mean it and were just out to get my money?[/QUOTE]Of course they meant it. You had a very "hansum" bulge in your back pocket.

I was at Silver Star on Walking Street last night. That bar is always fun; it has 2 jacuzzi shows; many naked girls; girls you can easily fondle.

As I was leaving that packed bar at approx 11 PM, 1 Indian looking guy was walking in. The door guy stopped him and told him it was 300 Baht. He was made to pay 300 Baht for a drink coupon. I paid 125 Baht for a Singha. There is never any cover charge for White or Northern Asian tourists.

Poor Indians. I feel for you all.

Lugalzaggizi,

Your reports are long and always interesting and I guess you being a school teacher it is a way to present new words to us guys here on a sex site. I'm not sure if your writing style is as uptight as you but you might what to try something new if you haven't already. I'm not sure it is even open any longer? From you hotel LK, go up to 3rd. And see if the CASTLE is still open, it so, give it a try it might loosen you up a bit?

Enjoy. LBM

I read nearly every report from page 74 back to here, took me a couple of days. Now ready for my trip to Pattaya.

Thanks gentlemen for the info and entertainment.

Mr Lugalzaggizi was of course, the stand out, in respect of entertainment.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111].I found that the Thai sex workers in Pattaya were by-and-large commercially oriented.[/QUOTE]I am relieved to see the results of your research, Lugalzaggizi, and I hope that our membership takes this valuable information into account in their further dealings with the the sex [i]workers[/i].

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1241526]I was at Silver Star on Walking Street last night. That bar is always fun; it has 2 jacuzzi shows; many naked girls; girls you can easily fondle.

As I was leaving that packed bar at approx 11 PM. 1 Indian looking guy was walking in. The door guy stopped him and told him it was 300 Baht. He was made to pay 300 Baht for a drink coupon. I paid 125 Baht for a Singha. There is never any cover charge for White or Northern Asian tourists.

Poor Indians. I feel for you all.[/QUOTE]As an onlooker why didn't you stand up for Indian guy, I am a British Indian and was trying to enter Walking street disco with two of my English friends, bouncer stopped me and wanted a cover charge, I basically told him what I thought of him and my English friends refused to go in as well, consequently bouncer waved us all in.

[QUOTE=Harry 294;1241906]As an onlooker why didn't you stand up for Indian guy, I am a British Indian and was trying to enter Walking street disco with two of my English friends, bouncer stopped me and wanted a cover charge, I basically told him what I thought of him and my English friends refused to go in as well, consequently bouncer waved us all in.[/QUOTE]You stand up for your friends. Everybody else is on their own unless the situation gets really serious. GreenBud was leaving the bar. He didn't know the Indian guy so he was right not to get involved. The issue was over a cover charge for the Indian customers. That is nothing. Are fellow Japanese customers who don't know me from shinola supposed to stand up for me when I get charged a 1000bt farang fee by La Belle massage parlor in BKK merely because I am white? Get serious. I want to say 'you are not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy, ' even if it doesn't completely apply because you are from India. I have been to India. I seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. One price for locals and another for Westerners. Look man, lots of things are unfair in this world. Being charged a cover fee because you are Indian is not kosher, it may not even be good business, but so what? Pay it with a smile if you like the bar, the way I pay the farang tax when I go to La Belle or take your business somewhere else. In the real world (outside the USA) owners of private property like bars, restaurants,and hotels have a right to refuse customers or charge extra for whatever reason. It is discrimination straight up. There is not a damn thing you can do about it except take your business elsewhere or pay the fee, become a valued customer to the bar and perhaps they will stop discriminating against you personally. I can think of a lot of other examples where farangs are discriminated against in Thailand. I don't let it bother me.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1241923]You stand up for your friends. Everybody else is on their own unless the situation gets really serious. GreenBud was leaving the bar. He didn't know the Indian guy so he was right not to get involved. The issue was over a cover charge for the Indian customers. That is nothing. Are fellow Japanese customers who don't know me from shinola supposed to stand up for me when I get charged a 1000bt farang fee by La Belle massage parlor in BKK merely because I am white? Get serious. I want to say 'you are not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy, ' even if it doesn't completely apply because you are from India. I have been to India. I seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. One price for locals and another for Westerners. Look man, lots of things are unfair in this world. Being charged a cover fee because you are Indian is not kosher, it may not even be good business, but so what? Pay it with a smile if you like the bar, the way I pay the farang tax when I go to La Belle or take your business somewhere else. In the real world (outside the USA) owners of private property like bars, restaurants,and hotels have a right to refuse customers or charge extra for whatever reason. It is discrimination straight up. There is not a damn thing you can do about it except take your business elsewhere or pay the fee, become a valued customer to the bar and perhaps they will stop discriminating against you personally. I can think of a lot of other examples where farangs are discriminated against in Thailand. I don't let it bother me.[/QUOTE]Well said, Natty. Thailand (and Asia in General) is not America and is not Europe. Therefore noone should expect it to be like America or Europe. Racial discrimination of all kinds is widespread and still it is not a problem for most. Being white I am advantaged in many ways but even despite that there are places where outright discrimination is practiced and I never even had a thought of questioning that. That's life. You don't like their social rules, you don't go there. As simple as that.

Even despite all this ANYONE can have plenty of fun in Thailand: Indian, White, African, you name it. There will be enough girls and enough fun for all so no need to whine.

[QUOTE=Harry 294;1241906]As an onlooker why didn't you stand up for Indian guy, I am a British Indian and was trying to enter Walking street disco with two of my English friends, bouncer stopped me and wanted a cover charge, I basically told him what I thought of him and my English friends refused to go in as well, consequently bouncer waved us all in.[/QUOTE]I can assure you this is not racism. After all Thais are Asians too.

No. It is business sense I am afraid.

Many men from India enter those joints in groups, stay in to enjoy the show, but never order a drink, then they leave with their money sound in their pockets.

Hence the vouchers. Can't blame the owner, can you?

[quote=natty bumpo;1241923]i seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. one price for locals and another for westerners.[/quote]. ...and it is scandalous the way they rip you off in the tourist attractions. for example, if you are or look indian, it will cost you a few rupees to gain admittance to the taj mahal. if you are foreign it will cost something ridiculous like $50. blatant discrimination. i don't recall any indians arguing on my behalf whilst i was remonstrating with the ticket seller. they think, they're tourists, they have money, they can afford it even though many of the tourists are backpackers traveling on a budget.

i don't agree with this double tier pricing system but i cannot help but think that the shoes on the other foot here. and i suspect that many bars do not like indian customers as maybe they don't 'buy', but like to handle the merchandise, if you know what i mean. it is unfortunate that british indians who will buy drinks, bar fine etc suffer in the crossfire.

btw...i managed to get to about the third line of one of 'lugs' reports before i felt myself developing a headache and had to give in. i wasn't the rampant verbiage that put me off but the lack of any discernible paragraphing. his reports look like the north face of the eiger. 0/10 for the teacher:).

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1241989]BTW.I managed to get to about the third line of one of 'Lugs' reports before I felt myself developing a headache and had to give in. I wasn't the rampant verbiage that put me off but the lack of any discernible paragraphing. His reports look like the north face of the Eiger. 0/10 for the teacher:).[/QUOTE]I second that assessment. His reports are virtually unreadable without undue effort.

I was at the Windmill (Winderjammer?) Club A Go Go last night.

I ordered the happy hour draft beer special. The bartender put half of the old foam beer and half draft! I was sitting right next to the bar.

Disgusting! I was wondering why sometimes the draft beer taste terrible.

Many bars will have happy hour (some the whole night) draft beer specials. When you open a keg, a lot of foam comes out; then soon, it turns into normal looking beer, but it doesn't taste right. In the US, they trash that crap. In the Windmill, and probably other bars also, they don't trash it, but rather they give it to unsuspecting customers.

But I give credit to the waitress and bartender. When I complained, they immediately changed it into a pure draft beer. Obviously, the waitress knew about it.

The White manager heard by complaints, and he came over. He said his name was Phil. I said the beer was half old foam beer. He said his bar doesn't do that. But then I said I just saw him do it. He said he will talk to the bartender. He then left without talking to him. Then the bartender just filled another draft beer with the same ratio. I think the manager saw it. The manager did nothing.

Phil, are you ignorant twit or a lying sack of shit?

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1241923]You stand up for your friends. Everybody else is on their own unless the situation gets really serious. GreenBud was leaving the bar. He didn't know the Indian guy so he was right not to get involved. The issue was over a cover charge for the Indian customers. That is nothing. Are fellow Japanese customers who don't know me from shinola supposed to stand up for me when I get charged a 1000bt farang fee by La Belle massage parlor in BKK merely because I am white? Get serious. I want to say 'you are not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy, ' even if it doesn't completely apply because you are from India. I have been to India. I seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. One price for locals and another for Westerners. Look man, lots of things are unfair in this world. Being charged a cover fee because you are Indian is not kosher, it may not even be good business, but so what? Pay it with a smile if you like the bar, the way I pay the farang tax when I go to La Belle or take your business somewhere else. In the real world (outside the USA) owners of private property like bars, restaurants,and hotels have a right to refuse customers or charge extra for whatever reason. It is discrimination straight up. There is not a damn thing you can do about it except take your business elsewhere or pay the fee, become a valued customer to the bar and perhaps they will stop discriminating against you personally. I can think of a lot of other examples where farangs are discriminated against in Thailand. I don't let it bother me.[/QUOTE]. It seems I touched some raw nerves.

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1241526]I was at Silver Star on Walking Street last night. That bar is always fun; it has 2 jacuzzi shows; many naked girls; girls you can easily fondle.

As I was leaving that packed bar at approx 11 PM. 1 Indian looking guy was walking in. The door guy stopped him and told him it was 300 Baht. He was made to pay 300 Baht for a drink coupon. I paid 125 Baht for a Singha. There is never any cover charge for White or Northern Asian tourists.

Poor Indians. I feel for you all.[/QUOTE]I doubt it was related to the adventures discussed here, but Silver Star 3, home to a number of young and friendly lovelies, was raided at about 10PM on the 27th when more than twenty plain-clothes cops, male and female came in and took over the place, eventually closing it for the night. All the girls disappeared upstairs seconds before the cops. After about an hour, when it looked like they were checking the IDs of every female in the place, another bunch of higher-up cops, all in nice tan uniforms arrived, press-in-tow and after a brief news conference outside the place, trooped inside. Twenty minutes later, they emerged and there was some congratulatory exchanges between a couple of volunteer tourist cops and the brass. The staff was finally let out near 12:30 am.

I'm sorry but I don't remember where is the abbreviation words page. I don't succeed to find it.

Thanks for your help!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1242107]I'm sorry but I don't remember where is the abbreviation words page. I don't succeed to find it.

Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]Here it is:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations[/url]

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1242107]I'm sorry but I don't remember where is the abbreviation words page. I don't succeed to find it.

Thanks for your help![/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms[/url]

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1241776]I read nearly every report from page 74 back to here, took me a couple of days. Now ready for my trip to Pattaya.

Thanks gentlemen for the info and entertainment.

Mr Lugalzaggizi was of course, the stand out, in respect of entertainment.[/QUOTE]Such a brief message should go in the report of distinction even if it does not contain any real report. Its value is in the fact the guy did RTFF and clearly says there are enough information in here!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1241190]Every time I read one of these reports it reminds me of the main character in A Confederacy of Dunces.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces[/url][/QUOTE]You hit it on the head!

I've been trying to figure out where I read that pompous literary affectation before.

His last entry drove me crazy with the lack of paragraphs but I do enjoy the vision of him putting on his special helmet and motorcycle boots prior to mounting the moto taxi.

[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1242120]This will no doubt put me in many people's bad books again and I've tried not to be too controversial but I see three things wrong with this posting.

1. Ordering a draft beer.

2. Admitting that you drink draft beer.

3. Whining about it.

What do you expect draft beer to taste like apart from crap?[/QUOTE]I would strongly disagree with your statement that draft beer is crap.

A new keg of beer is better than old bottled beer.

I miss the great London draft of Guiness. It's fantastic. After I had a draft of Guiness in London, it's hard to go back to drinking Guiness in the US. All connoisseurs of Guiness know that it doesn't travel well. Yes, I heard that the Guiness is better in Ireland; one reason I want to go there.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1242120]The Thais / Asians in Pattaya are laughing at farangs now as the tide seems to have turned and they are spending much more than the farangs.[/QUOTE]

Huh?

Obviously the Northern Asians have money, but the Thais? Just writing shit to write shit? Definitely not in the normal Pattaya Farang bars.

i know this is not everybodys cup of tea, but does anyone know of any girls that do hardsports (rep001) in pattaya?

[quote=superboy1;1242233]i know this is not everybodys cup of tea, but does anyone know of any girls that do hardsports (rep001) in pattaya?[/quote]do you want to shit on them or them on you?

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Barbie Bar. Reviewer writes "no barfine". It says: Soi Chayaphun (no idea where it is) and if you click on it links to same old LK Metro. Is it there?[/QUOTE]The street is Soi Chaiyapoon. It runs east off Soi Buakaow, just north of the intersection of Soi Diana. There is a strange intersection there, with multiple roads intersecting with Soi Buakaow. Various maps give them various names. Soi Chaiyapoon is just north of the Oasis go go. You'll know you have the correct soi when you see the Chow Soy restaurant. If you look carefully at the second photo below, you can just barely see part of the sign for the Barbie Bar on the right side.

As for the claim on some other site that there is no bar fine, I cannot say because I have not patronized the Barbie Bar. That said, I walked past there several times during my holiday in December of 2011 and it usually had a good crowd in the late afternoon and early evening.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1242269]Do you want to shit on them or them on you?[/QUOTE]No I do not want to shit on them or on me, alittle extreme for me, I just want to watch them shit.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1242286]No I do not want to shit on them or on me, alittle extreme for me, I just want to watch them shit.[/QUOTE]Yuck. Sorry, but that is really gross.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1242286]I just want to watch them shit.[/QUOTE]Why on earth would you want to do that? It's OK. Don't tell me. I don't really want to know!

Beach Road. In fact, if you walk at night along the beach itself, parallel to the beach path, you might even get a freebie!

[quote=bunky; 1240018]your evaluation of soi 6 is basically accurate. the short time rooms vary from bar to bar. some are nicer than others. the better ones are imho nicer than "dingy." as for "quality time in the sack," that depends on what you prefer. if you want to spend hours in bed, shagging, sharing and snuggling, soi 6 is not the place. but if your idea of "quality" is showering with your girl, followed by a bareback blow job, then moving on to multiple positions, finishing with another blow job and launching a load all over her than you've come to the right place.

what's the best time of day? i like arriving at sunset, tuning up with a drink or two, and then making my choice. the selection of girls is at its height then, and after i'm finished the evening is young. if i've got an early tee time the next day, i grab a quick bite and retire for the evening. if i suspect i'll be ready to go again later, i might go back to my room for a combat nap. in my experience, soi 6 slows down later. by midnight you'll be better off in the beer bar complex on sois 7 & 8, or down on walking street.

bunky[/quote]solid advice on soi 6. i would recommend it to anyone visiting to visit at least once in the late afternoon / early evening to see if its to their liking. have met a lot of travellers and even longer term residents who refuse to venture down there, but anyone not put off by seeing short time beds / girls as unclean should have a good time there. there are definitely some homely girls, but i would say each bar has at least a couple pretty cute ones (better selection than many beer bars). service can be a little mechanical and rushed at times, but all in all is usually a good bj and lay.

have discovered a couple gems there over the years. one was my first night ever in pattaya. had just started walking on the soi and started talking to a complete beauty. my friend had to inform what soi 6 was about and i went upstairs pretty quickly. pretty good shag then we went to shower. after she put her outfit back on i grabbed her and gave her a long kiss. she pushed me back down on the bed whipped off her panties and jumped up and down on me like a mad woman until she came while still in her school girl outfit. wonderful.

another gal a few years later i went to visit two days in a row mainly because of her bj skills (better than many [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] girls) the second visit i was realizing i had been pushing myself too hard with the booze and gals for about a week and that i should call it night in right then, around 7 pm. asked her if she just wanted to stay at my hotel and she was utterly amazed, saying something like "no one takes home soi 6 girls, we're bad girls". had to pay the bar a bit, can't remember but similar to a beer bar fine. ended up being a laid back night and morning of bjs and her staring at me like i was some living god. one of the few girls i have thought of taking traveling with me, but i was a afraid she may be slightly off her rocker.

so i guess i would say to any new arrivals that oi 6 is good, cheap, quality service for the most part with some possibilities for experiences with girls as good as any other bars / gogos in the city.

In Pattaya for a two week holiday, New Year's Eve comes around and I spent the evening moving from one gogo bar to the next enjoying the sight and company of many lovely ladies. I'd already made the decision that I would head into Windmill A-GoGo later in the evening and stay there until after midnight.

Windmill has been described on one forum as "I stepped inside, and felt like I was intruding on someone else's orgy". The girls there wear no underwear, there's always a couple of naked girls toward the back of the main stage, another couple on a playmat over to one side and another two in the jacuzzi up the back. These girls are generally getting pretty interactive with the customers sitting around these areas too. There are generally punters fingers and often tounges in all sorts of places. This night was no exception and as it was NYE, the owner had put on snack food as well which was on the house. In general it's one of the raunchiest bars in Pattaya.

After sitting next to the main stage for a while I eventually settled down on the bench seat in the corner of the bar to drink my beer and watch what was going on. It wasn't long before I had an attractive young lady sitting on my lap getting very friendly and encouraging me to put my fingers into her pussy and ass. This behaviour went on for a couple of hours with me buying her 'ladydrinks' every so often (there would have been about five drinks at about A$4 each) and with her disappearing every so often when it was her time to dance on the stage or get into the jacuzzi or something, but she kept coming back. Around about 1:00am I was thinking about leaving and she started asking the expected question about the barfine.

After paying the bar fine, we wandered up the road to my hotel and headed up to the room. Quick shower and then into it. BBBJ and then on with the rubber for some boom boom. The sex went on for a while in several positions with some more BJ and then on with another condom to finish off the deed.

The bar fine was 500Baht ( $A16) and I gave Pa 2000 Baht ( A$64).

Would I repeat. I did few days later.

A few days after New Years Eve when I had bar fined a young lady named Pa, I found myself walking back in through the doors at Windmill Club A-GoGo. Sat down on a bar stool next to the central stage, ordered a beer and proceeded to be entertained by the debauchery going on around me.

After a while Pa wanders past a jumps up onto the playmat table and starts fooling around with one of the other girls. I went over and sat next to the table and she recognised me. Sure enough as the time approached when her and her little friend were duw to finsih their stint on the table, she asked the inevitable question about a bar fine. She was pretty good in bed last time so I said yes. She calls the manager over, I pay the bar fine and then she disappears to get dressed. This leaves her friend all alone and of course she's now all over me things are getting pretty hands-on and a couple of minutes later she also suggests the bar fine. I thought what the hell, I'm leaving Pattaya tomorrow so why not go for the threesome. Paid the second bar fine to the manger and she disappears as well.

The three of us wander back to my hotel and up to the room. Shower then the three of us onto the bed for some BBBJ from Pa and then from the other one (I didn't get her name). On with a rubber and asian cowgirl with Pa on top and then changed girls for some missionary, then back to Pa for doggy. And so on. Finished off with a handjob all over both girls stomachs.

Neither of these girls were drop dead gorgeous, but they were reasonably attractive and certainly did their job in the bedroom. Pa is of a fairly average height and build for a Thai girl and the other one was much shorter, probably around 4'6". She was tiny.

The bar fine was 500Baht ( $A16) x 2 and I gave each girl 2000 Baht ( A$64).

Would I repeat. Yes.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1242286]No I do not want to shit on them or on me, alittle extreme for me, I just want to watch them shit.[/QUOTE]Diarrhea or hard logs?

Yes, walk down Beach Road and ask. Instead of "Do you BBBJ"? Or "Do you do anal"? Ask them "When are you going to take a shit again".

Also, I know of a resturant that everytime I go there I have to take a shit about an hour later. PM me and I will tell you the spot so you can take her there.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1242286]No I do not want to shit on them or on me, alittle extreme for me, I just want to watch them shit.[/QUOTE]You should holiday in India, you can see people crapping every where and its free!

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1242286]No I do not want to shit on them or on me, alittle extreme for me, I just want to watch them shit.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah. Your wish is just pretty much normal, anyone has the same. LOL

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1242319]Why on earth would you want to do that? It's OK. Don't tell me. I don't really want to know!

Beach Road. In fact, if you walk at night along the beach itself, parallel to the beach path, you might even get a freebie![/QUOTE]I can imagine but I can't imagine.

[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1242450]You should holiday in India, you can see people crapping every where and its free![/QUOTE]Good one dude! Haha.

Dear mongers,

I am planning to hit Pattaya (first time since 2006 when I was there my first and only time!). I was in Bangkok many times (every year except 2010) since then and know the Bangkok scene more or less (thanks to some great reports here as well). But what about the Pattaya go-go scene in a nutshell (I'm not that much interested in massage, discos etc.)? Are there some bars which are 'better than others' (such as the Rainbow 4 or Baccara in Bangkok which deservedly or not are the most famous, busiest and most expensive for this purpose)? Or perhaps there is a number (say 4-6) establishments that are bigger, busier, more popular and hyped than others?

I know it may not be the most popular thing and not sound very adventurous to some more experienced mongers but what I'm looking is a big place with many many girls who are readily available. I'd be thankful for some names if there any relevant ones and would dig the past reports from the forum myself.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1242628]Dear mongers,

I am planning to hit Pattaya (first time since 2006 when I was there my first and only time!). I was in Bangkok many times (every year except 2010) since then and know the Bangkok scene more or less (thanks to some great reports here as well). But what about the Pattaya go-go scene in a nutshell (I'm not that much interested in massage, discos etc.)? Are there some bars which are 'better than others' (such as the Rainbow 4 or Baccara in Bangkok which deservedly or not are the most famous, busiest and most expensive for this purpose)? Or perhaps there is a number (say 4-6) establishments that are bigger, busier, more popular and hyped than others?

I know it may not be the most popular thing and not sound very adventurous to some more experienced mongers but what I'm looking is a big place with many many girls who are readily available. I'd be thankful for some names if there any relevant ones and would dig the past reports from the forum myself.[/QUOTE]Happy a gogo and Baccara are pretty good. I was last there in late July of last year, though.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1242628]Dear mongers,

I am planning to hit Pattaya (first time since 2006 when I was there my first and only time!). I was in Bangkok many times (every year except 2010) since then and know the Bangkok scene more or less (thanks to some great reports here as well). But what about the Pattaya go-go scene in a nutshell (I'm not that much interested in massage, discos etc.)? Are there some bars which are 'better than others' (such as the Rainbow 4 or Baccara in Bangkok which deservedly or not are the most famous, busiest and most expensive for this purpose)? Or perhaps there is a number (say 4-6) establishments that are bigger, busier, more popular and hyped than others?

I know it may not be the most popular thing and not sound very adventurous to some more experienced mongers but what I'm looking is a big place with many many girls who are readily available. I'd be thankful for some names if there any relevant ones and would dig the past reports from the forum myself.[/QUOTE]Based on your criteria I would say:

1. Baccara (yes, there is a Baccara in Pattaya as well)

2. Airport.

3. Anglewitch.

4. Iron.

5. Alcatraz.

Now, I do like Baccara, but the others do not rate high on my to-visit lists for various reasons, but mostly based on feeling. They are however all large with lots of girls.

Besides Baccara, I like Happy. Not as large as the above clubs, but with number of good looking girls and I just like the club and its atmosphere. I usually hang more out in the LK Metro area, but the clubs there are considerably smaller than the largest ones on Walking Street so they might not meet your criteria in terms of size and selection, but they are worth a visit IMO.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1242628]what about the Pattaya go-go scene in a nutshell (I'm not that much interested in massage, discos etc.)? Are there some bars which are 'better than others' (such as the Rainbow 4 or Baccara in Bangkok which deservedly or not are the most famous, busiest and most expensive for this purpose)? Or perhaps there is a number (say 4-6) establishments that are bigger, busier, more popular and hyped than others?[/QUOTE]Holly Shit DT. Are you in for the most pleasant surprise of your life. The Walking Street area alone is 15x as large as Cowboy. Here are a few of the high quality Go Go's worth checking out: baccara, babydolls, airport, what's up, heaven above, iron, happy, angelwitch, peppermint, xzone, and superbaby / supergirl. I suggest you barhop for two or three nights and see which ones you like. My favorites as of feb 2011 are baccara, what's up, heaven above and supergirl. Walking Street is Disneyland. You don't have to research Walking Street much. Just take my list of the top 11 Go Go's and do a barhop.

Don't get me wrong, there are other areas in Pattaya worth checking out like Soi 6, 7, & 8, Beach Road, and the LK Metro area. And I highly recommend you read up on those areas just in case you want to expand your horizons. But if you are looking only for the most popular, fun Go Go's with the sexiest girls in town than just print this list: baccara, babydolls, airport, what's up, heaven above, iron, happy, angelwitch, peppermint, xzone, and superbaby / supergirl and be real happy.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1242628]what I'm looking is a big place with many many girls who are readily available.[/QUOTE]Well that describes Pattaya. There are more "readily available" girls here than you can possibly imagine. 10, 000 girls is the figured most bandied about. You have to see it to believe it.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1242647]Holly Shit DT. Are you in for the most pleasant surprise of your life. The Walking Street area alone is 15x as large as Cowboy. Here are a few of the high quality Go Go's worth checking out: baccara, babydolls, airport, what's up, heaven above, iron, happy, angelwitch, peppermint, xzone, and superbaby / supergirl. I suggest you barhop for two or three nights and see which ones you like. My favorites as of feb 2011 are baccara, what's up, heaven above and supergirl. Walking Street is Disneyland. You don't have to research Walking Street much. Just take my list of the top 11 Go Go's and do a barhop.

Don't get me wrong, there are other areas in Pattaya worth checking out like Soi 6, 7, & 8, Beach Road, and the LK Metro area. And I highly recommend you read up on those areas just in case you want to expand your horizons. But if you are looking only for the most popular, fun Go Go's with the sexiest girls in town than just print this list: baccara, babydolls, airport, what's up, heaven above, iron, happy, angelwitch, peppermint, xzone, and superbaby / supergirl and be real happy.

Well that describes Pattaya. There are more "readily available" girls here than you can possibly imagine. 10, 000 girls is the figured most bandied about. You have to see it to believe it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Natty.

This is exactly what I needed and I will research on all those places and do some barhopping.

Damn I really miss Pattaya. Don't even know why. All of a sudden it was like an alarm clock ringing: why the hell didn't I go there at least one more time despite messing around in Bangkok for weeks every year for the past 6 years? Perhaps it's time to sacrifice some of a big city sightseeing for some more fun-oriented holidays.

Pattaya was my first mongering experience back in 2006. Being in my early 20's and never had been mongering before... It was a totally exotic and strange place. So it will be a pleasure to be back.

[QUOTE=Tobyg;1242411].... getting very friendly and encouraging me to put my fingers into her pussy and ass.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tobyg;1242411].....the owner had put on snack food as well which was on the house.[/QUOTE]Was it a finger buffet:eek:?

Mental note to self: Give the peanuts a swerve at the Windmill.

We are planning to launch a conducted tour with 'Shit Tasting' of our most premium variety. Anybody interested?

)

Hifly.

[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1242450]You should holiday in India, you can see people crapping every where and its free![/QUOTE]

Just for the record, the word "myriad" isn't ever followed by a preposition. It's "myriad something or other" like myriad Russian couples, myriad Go-Gos or myriad bullshit in long-winded and contorted postings.

[QUOTE=Hifly; 1242694]We are planning to launch a conducted tour with 'Shit Tasting' of our most premium variety. Anybody interested?

)

Hifly.[/QUOTE]This is gross. Can we get back to the more normal stuff?

I read the reports about windmill and remembered the bonkers girl that got really drunk and bought us drinks. Us being me, the tfg, and a mate. She got really possessive of my mate and when he went with a saner less drunk co worker of hers she really went off the deep end!

The moral to my story is if one girl starts to like you it can really be a problem if you go with someone else. We had to get her moved away by the other staff.

I really wish I was down soi 6 having a beer at willys hangout tonight. But here I am in fricking freezing Japan! Urgh!

[QUOTE=Hatguy;1242764]I read the reports about windmill and remembered the bonkers girl that got really drunk and bought us drinks. Us being me, the tfg, and a mate. She got really possessive of my mate and when he went with a saner less drunk co worker of hers she really went off the deep end![/QUOTE]You have to get familiar with the Asian idea of losing face. If a bargirl buys you drinks in front of all her barmates and mamasans, and then you turn her down, you might as well be slapping her in public. You are not doing yourself any favors either, as all the other girls in the bar will take note and like you less for it. If they get a chance to fuck you over, they will.

If you are planning to take the girl, accept her drinks and look forward to a good time as she obviously likes you. If not, politely and discreetly refuse the drinks and help her save face and move along.

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1242778]You have to get familiar with the Asian idea of losing face. If a bargirl buys you drinks in front of all her barmates and mamasans, and then U-turn her down, you might as well be slapping her in public. You are not doing yourself any favors either, as all the other girls in the bar will take note and like you less for it. If they get a chance to fuck you over, they will.

If you are planning to take the girl, accept her drinks and look forward to a good time as she obviously likes you. If not, politely and discreetly refuse the drinks and help her save face and move along.[/QUOTE]Oh I totally agree with you. I never allow that to happen myself. It was interesting to see it happen to him though.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1242628]Dear mongers,

I am planning to hit Pattaya (first time since 2006 when I was there my first and only time!). I was in Bangkok many times (every year except 2010) since then and know the Bangkok scene more or less (thanks to some great reports here as well). But what about the Pattaya go-go scene in a nutshell (I'm not that much interested in massage, discos etc.)? Are there some bars which are 'better than others' (such as the Rainbow 4 or Baccara in Bangkok which deservedly or not are the most famous, busiest and most expensive for this purpose)? Or perhaps there is a number (say 4-6) establishments that are bigger, busier, more popular and hyped than others?

I know it may not be the most popular thing and not sound very adventurous to some more experienced mongers but what I'm looking is a big place with many many girls who are readily available. I'd be thankful for some names if there any relevant ones and would dig the past reports from the forum myself.[/QUOTE]To Der tourist

I think it will be a big suprise to you Pattaya change alot since 2006 price for everything is much higher, it is become more of a family place many bar are closing because of slow business and quality is way down, I am in Pattaya now been coming since 1995 every yr most girl on soi 7-8 and beach road are dog and gogo girl.

Price is too high, I did a few girl at full moon bar at soi 6 st in house for 1000 bht nice st room best in soi 6 I think but just a few yr ago 1000 bht get you a girl here for all night back tin the hotel and quality is much better then.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1242349]Russian women, accompanied by their husbands or boyfriends, meandering about on Walking Street would have absolutely no interest in the agogos therein. So why are they there?[/QUOTE]Easy, they are training their husbands not to show any sexual interest in other women. They are bringing the husbands into the agogos and then the husbands have to learn to look at all these hot Thai ladies, whilst saying to their "master & commander": "No honey, I do not like these strumpets; they are not hot and beautiful; I only love you; I do not understand why men come here; let's have another soft drink and then I want to go home".

[QUOTE=Hatguy;1242764]The moral to my story is if one girl starts to like you it can really be a problem if you go with someone else.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Some of these girls can get very possessive, especially after you've bar fined them and then go back at a later date. It's like they've marked their territory and you're not allowed to be interested in any of the others in that bar.

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1242280]The street is Soi Chaiyapoon. It runs east off Soi Buakaow, just north of the intersection of Soi Diana. There is a strange intersection there, with multiple roads intersecting with Soi Buakaow. Various maps give them various names. Soi Chaiyapoon is just north of the Oasis go go. You'll know you have the correct soi when you see the Chow Soy restaurant. If you look carefully at the second photo below, you can just barely see part of the sign for the Barbie Bar on the right side.

As for the claim on some other site that there is no bar fine, I cannot say because I have not patronized the Barbie Bar. That said, I walked past there several times during my holiday in December of 2011 and it usually had a good crowd in the late afternoon and early evening.

Bunky[/QUOTE]Thanks for the indication. I think I know Soi Buakaov, not the others you mention. And it doesn't sounds so easy to find to me.

Thinking about it it doesn't sounds very likely. Rules of the game are the same everywhere in Pattaya, so why shoudn't they barfine?

Anyway, if I ever stumble into it I'll ask.

And I'm more interested in picking a girl from a disco this year, altough I'm no disco animal at all.

I was considering getting into one late, not long before closing-time and see if I run into some gorgeous one who hasn't been picked-up yet and may be more inclined to get the last train running (ME) rather than ending up alone.

I would set this strategy both because I couldn't stand an entire night inside a disco and because I'd like to bypass go-go's iter and rates.

Do you guys think this may actually work?

By the way, I have seen they closed Insomnia disco (busted for drug is the rumor).

Do you know where all stunners inside there have relocated?

Marine disco, Insomnia bar (looks quite packed from outside indeed) or elsewhere?

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1243159]And I'm more interested in picking a girl from a disco this year, altough I'm no disco animal at all.

I was considering getting into one late, not long before closing-time and see if I run into some gorgeous one who hasn't been picked-up yet and may be more inclined to get the last train running (ME) rather than ending up alone.

I would set this strategy both because I couldn't stand an entire night inside a disco and because I'd like to bypass go-go's iter and rates.

Do you guys think this may actually work?

By the way, I have seen they closed Insomnia disco (busted for drug is the rumor).

Do you know where all stunners inside there have relocated?

Marine disco, Insomnia bar (looks quite packed from outside indeed) or elsewhere?[/QUOTE]I was in Insomnia recently. Open. Where did you here it was closed. And YES your idea is easily DO-able.

Hi all.

Yesterday I was thinking because I usualy not go to the Walkingstreet, I go to find out what is new.

My first bar was the Galaxy, I wanted see the Russian woman what they doing, prices etc.

So I went the stair up at the half way already one Russian woman not realy good looking, inside the bar then the first shock BAR FINE 1000 THB, so I went inside 3 girls there and dancing topless the quality of the girls so far not good the Thai weitresses was much more cuter and happier. So I sit down was no problem because the bar was a bit empty when some other guy was ther he was Asian. I took the manu to see what I can order, shock #2&3 2: you have to order minimum for 400THB or you have to leave after 10 minutes. 3: the Prices starting from 350THB up to something with 55000 THB for a Bottle.

So I ordered a drink for 400THB (you have to pay when you get it) to have my time to watch. After I got my drink. 2 Russian woman have sit down near me and ask me in a hard Russian "Hi I'm SASCHA YOU BUY DRINK FOR ME" not to say she was not my type before I could answere she took the manu and wanted order something for around 1500THB I told her no I not buy something for her, that I came in to check out what is possible, so she told me she can make a LAP DANCE for me, I told her I not care for a LAP I would like to know how much for banging, then shetold me she can't tell me because something like that only have to speak in the PRIVAT ROOM there can talk about to go out and make escort.

I think in the private room are cameras or something why else she not want tell me.

I went then to the toilete when I came back the woman was gone and here friend too.

So I sit down again and a other a bit more atractive and younger woman came in same question like before but this time I told here I not buy any drinks for here I want to know what is going on but the same answere LAP or private room.

Then a woman cam down from the stage a bit fat one came to me put here leg between my and start to move a bit, I don't care because some Agogo bars do same so after 15 years I don't mind it is a chick try something, like this one altime wanted I gave here money, I refused so she took a sing from behind me and throw at me, and not only a little it was a bit hard (and made me dame angry) at the sign was writen " When a poor soul girl come to to you please give here some money for take care you " with this I had enough and I got up told a witress she can take the drink away and I was out of there.

Then I went to 2 other normal Thai Agogo to come down.

Later one guy I meet in agogo told me (a guy from japan) he have try one from Galaxy she wanted for 3 hours ESCORT 10000THB I asked him why him have pay so much, because he wanted bang a blond one.

So kids a good advice stay away from Galaxy so far you can.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1243236]I was in Insomnia recently. Open. Where did you here it was closed. And YES your idea is easily DO-able.[/QUOTE]Not the Imsomnia bar downstairs, but the Insmonia disco upstairs.

Anyway, today at the beach I've been told it was about to re-open.

Or maybe already has been. I wasn't in Walking St yesterday.

Hi friends,

I'm sorry if I disturb you but I'm new about Asia. I'd like to visit Myanmar and I don't know if to take 10 free days for fucking in Yangon (Myanmar) or Pattaya (Thailad). I like very much girlfriend experience and I think I can get it much more in Myanmar but I am afraid it is hard to meet beautiful, sexy and hardcore girls. Then I think in Yangon the price for fucking is higher than Pattaya.

I don't know both Myanmar and Thailand but I think Pattaya is cheaper. I'm on budget. What is your suggestion please? Thanks

That's like asking if you'll have more fun in Vegas or in Pyongyang.

Gday Guys, I'm just curious.

I rang up a local foreign exchange to get some thai baht and was quoted 30. 33 bht to 1 Aud.

No commision. Usually a competitive mob. The rate on the TV was $1. 07 Aud to the US.

How much on the street is the Aussie dollar going for and at the Bangkok Airport.

Thanks for the info in anticipation.

Kirra Dude.

Ps If you know the US dollar on the street and airport that would be good too.

Pps I'm thinkin the Rate is better on the street?

[QUOTE=Kirra Dude; 1243769]Gday Guys, I'm just curious.

I rang up a local foreign exchange to get some thai baht and was quoted 30. 33 bht to 1 Aud.

No commision. Usually a competitive mob. The rate on the TV was $1. 07 Aud to the US.

How much on the street is the Aussie dollar going for and at the Bangkok Airport.

Thanks for the info in anticipation.

Kirra Dude.

Ps If you know the US dollar on the street and airport that would be good too.

Pps I'm thinkin the Rate is better on the street?[/QUOTE]Every time I go Thailand I take ozzie dollars, green backs, buy at airport enough for 2/3 days and change more later. The rate changes daily so the only way to find out if the airport is dearer or cheaper than the street is to do two transactions in the one day, not worth the bother, all the different banks are within a coule satang of each other. Minimal difference, shoe leather is more expensive.

KD.

Hows it going mate? Long time. On walking street there are ATMs everywhere. Opposite the entrance to walking street theres a bank branch you can use if that makes you feel safer. I used a cash card there. Better off not using credit just to be safe IMHO. The rates you get there from the atm is competitive enough. And you can only do 10 000 baht at a time anyway. Not much difference really.

I'll be in Pattaya soon and wanted to know if there's anywhere near walking street where I can find white women, african women, or south american women. Any help much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Complete;1243871]I'll be in Pattaya soon and wanted to know if there's anywhere near walking street where I can find white women, african women, or south american women. Any help much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Walking Street is full of Russian Girls. The harder part would be to convince their husbands to let them go with you.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1244009]Walking Street is full of Russian Girls. The harder part would be to convince their husbands to let them go with you.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. So offer to swap his wife with local girls.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1243526]That's like asking if you'll have more fun in Vegas or in Pyongyang.[/QUOTE]So what is the answer?

[QUOTE=Gwailo;1244214]So what is the answer?[/QUOTE]It is very hard to give an answer because I don't know Pyongyang.

[QUOTE=Gwailo;1244214]So what is the answer?[/QUOTE]To Gwailo,

I can bet you for sure cost of p4p will be much cheaper in Pyongyang and SW will be much younger, but getting there will be hard with a US passport.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Gwailo;1244214]So what is the answer?[/QUOTE]It's a tie.

I just returned from Thailand and Insomnia has been closed since last Tuesday January night 21st only iBar has been open.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1243236]I was in Insomnia recently. Open. Where did you here it was closed. And YES your idea is easily DO-able.[/QUOTE]

Yes Insomnia is closed. Raided by the cops. They will probably need to bribe more to re-open. There have been several police raids in several bars the previous days. It's not sure if the police activity just temporary or if there is an intent to definitely enforce the official closing times in Patts.

[QUOTE=El Frances;1244489]Yes Insomnia is closed. Raided by the cops. They will probably need to bribe more to re-open. There have been several police raids in several bars the previous days. It's not sure if the police activity just temporary or if there is an intent to definitely enforce the official closing times in Patts.[/QUOTE]I'm sure a nice big bribe would help but I think the problem with Insomnia being closed has more to do with the number of patron that have been caught selling or in posession of drugs. The several times it has been raided and reported in the papers it was just that?

LBM

[QUOTE=El Frances;1244489]Yes Insomnia is closed. Raided by the cops. They will probably need to bribe more to re-open. There have been several police raids in several bars the previous days. It's not sure if the police activity just temporary or if there is an intent to definitely enforce the official closing times in Patts.[/QUOTE]There was a guy killed by security in Insomnia. It will reopen in 2 months.

Insomnia was opened last night as far as I know.

visited pattaya for 3 nights this week. overall my feeling is very disappointed. the quality of the girls vs prices is not satisfactory. plenty of fish in the sea but very little of high quality imo. on the other hand i am a pattaya newbie and maybe could not find the right places.

1st day.

had a session at soi 6. 1000 thb total. the girl was not great in looks but ok and pulled me in to her bar. it was 4 pm and not so much traffic on the soi. was feeling horny so did not want to keep looking for a long time. we had shower, a very short bbbj and then normal sex. i just wanted to finish quick to release the pressure. later at night went to walking street. barhopped gogos. nothing spectacular. maybe the best looking girls get barfines earlier (i went to ws at about 9.45 pm and of course lost a lot time just barhopping and looking around and drinking beer). did not find anyone i liked and went to sleep alone 4 am.

2nd day.

went to soi 8 about 3-4 pm after walking around. talked to a nice girl in a very small beer bar. very cute. 33 yo, had a 13 yo daughter. talked with her and used all my thai vocabulary (i have been learning for a while). i'd like to talk to her again and ask her something but probably can't contact her from abroad even when i know the name of the bar? these bars don't have email addresses? or even phone numbers? so you think i can't find her to ask a question? i can go to pattaya again in 3 months, she might not be around anymore.

then saw a nice young cutie, very slim, in the next bar. went to talk to her, she said she was 18. did not talk much, just responded shortly to questions. played a few 4 in a row games with her. then had to go eat with my friend. i said to the bar that we will be back soon. went back there in alone 2-3 hours. the young girl was talking with another man (i saw she attracted many). the man was buying her drinks and roses, tried to kiss her, and they changed phone numbers. the girl just did what she had to i guess, did not seem very excited. then older girl from the bar came to ask me as i was sitting alone that the young girl could go with me for 2k. i said ok ok maybe later. when i said no she was of course going with the other man instantly (but maybe with me if had said yes). they went but came back, i think the problem was her id. probably did not get to the hotel. next they tried to go to a short time hotel, which was fully booked. that was what i heard while listening with the other ear. then heard rumours that she was maybe only 18 after a week or two. seemed possible. should be worried for ****d girls around? the next night i saw the same girl turn down a young good looking german guy but later at night she was going with a very drunk older man. strange. or is the game like that? maybe he offered more or as a very drunk was a good customer? these are working girls.

later went through 4-6 gogos like airport, happy, iron, babydolls but did not like them. went to a smaller gogo, saw a nice slim 20 yo girl. 2000 st. 3000 lt and 600 bf she asked. did not want to pay so much and could not agree a lower price and waited until closing time 4am. prices did not drop at all. the girl i was looking for left earlier alone, probably mamasan let her go. ended up sleeping alone again in pattaya (sigh).

3rd day.

went to lk metro gogo early like 3-4 pm. barfined one dancer. 19 she said but looked a bit older to me. definitely not **** like maybe the girl i saw earlier. 1500 st. later went to a gogo at ws. not sure if i remember the name. took a girl 2000 st + 600 bf. probably paid too much? not a great performance but ok. not worth 2k. maybe i should stick to soi 6? like 1k-1. 5k more.

i saw many farang walking on the streets with real cuties. older japanese with young looking girls. do you have any advice where to find companions like that? cause beer bars and even gogos at night did not see anything special.

stayed in baywalk residence but did not like it. little rundown and noisy. never asked girls any ids. sometimes the reception was with no-one there around too.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1245002]Visited Pattaya for 3 nights this week. .Went to LK Metro gogo early like 3-4 pm.[/QUOTE]That's where you have to go, if you like hot Sex including all Games and Holes.

Devil Den. Chosse a Girl for your Hotel 2000 Baht / 1. 5 Hours incl. Anal / DT as much come, as you like and can.
http://www.devilsdenthailand.com/profiles.html
(if you use a Proxy Server, you will see the Services from the Girls!)

So for what you pay Barfines and overpay for ST?

[QUOTE=Complete;1243871]I'll be in Pattaya soon and wanted to know if there's anywhere near walking street where I can find white women, african women, or south american women. Any help much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Of the small number of African women who have approached me, most appear to have priced themselves above local p4p, I have passed. Most will be seen walking the length of Beach Road and obviously strolling around Walking st. As is the norm, all women keep on the move. IMO if you want to sample African women, take a trip to that continent, where it is necessary to fight them off. Check out, Foreign sex workers in Thailand thread for help.

Pekkakoo.

I personally would get away from the Gogo's. Give Soi 8 and Soi 6 another chance. I have taken many girls from Soi 6 for 24 hours. You may have to walk the street and fuck a few of them until you find one you like. My experience is 500 b BF to take her and you negotiate with her for the time. I have paid between 1000-1500 for LT. A lot of those girls want a break and really enjoy going with you.

Also, There are some diamonds in the rough on Beach Road. Walk it several times and start up some conversations. Ask them upfront what they will do for you. 1k or or even less is possible for LT.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1245277]Pekkakoo.

Also, There are some diamonds in the rough on Beach Road. Walk it several times and start up some conversations. Ask them upfront what they will do for you. 1k or or even less is possible for LT.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you.

I have had some excellent girls from the Beach Road. Best to look for those alone rather than with friends.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1245277]Pekkakoo.

I personally would get away from the Gogo's. Give Soi 8 and Soi 6 another chance. I have taken many girls from Soi 6 for 24 hours. You may have to walk the street and fuck a few of them until you find one you like. My experience is 500 be BF to take her and you negotiate with her for the time. I have paid between 1000-1500 for LT. A lot of those girls want a break and really enjoy going with you.

Also, There are some diamonds in the rough on Beach Road. Walk it several times and start up some conversations. Ask them upfront what they will do for you. 1k or or even less is possible for LT.[/QUOTE]To Luvpuss.

Most girl at soi 6 don't want to leave the bar for LT, the hot one know they can make more money doing st at the bar most bar even closed early around midnight now, I did a few girl here for st last week for 1000 bht include room some girl I talk to want 2000 for all night with 500 bht barfine.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1245393]Totally agree with you.

I have had some excellent girls from the Beach Road. Best to look for those alone rather than with friends.[/QUOTE]I have a fetish for slightly plump and or big sized girls. Can you suggest where I can find them in Pattaya and or Bangkok. You can also PM me as I am a member. Appreciate your help.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Complete;1243871]I'll be in Pattaya soon and wanted to know if there's anywhere near walking street where I can find white women, african women, or south american women. Any help much appreciated.[/QUOTE]There used to be 3 African girls on Walking Street. They were very visable drinking in one of the bars, easy to find just walking passed. I took one to the disco one night and back to my hotel later and she was great fun.

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[QUOTE=ShivaInForty; 1245502]I have a fetish for slightly plump and or big sized girls. Can you suggest where I can find them in Pattaya and or Bangkok. You can also PM me as I am a member. Appreciate your help.

Thanks[/QUOTE]There are plenty of them (SW's) on Beach Road. Or WS.

[QUOTE=ShivaInForty; 1245502]I have a fetish for slightly plump and or big sized girls. Can you suggest where I can find them in Pattaya and or Bangkok. You can also PM me as I am a member. Appreciate your help.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Trouble is you don't know what you going to get until she strips down, such as this girl. Looked reasonably presentable clothed on Beach Road, once she removed all, well, look what I got. It was a good thing being inebriated, I love a challenge, fuck across the board not being a 10/10 seeker. I was done for the day and returning from my evening meal when I stumbled across this girl. Gave myself a challenge, got the dog out and let him run at her. Success was achieved after much thrusting, mind you, she worked hard BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245656]Trouble is you don't know what you going to get until she strips down, such as this girl. Looked reasonably presentable clothed on Beach Road, once she removed all, well, look what I got. It was a good thing being inebriated, I love a challenge, fuck across the board not being a 10/10 seeker. I was done for the day and returning from my evening meal when I stumbled across this girl. Gave myself a challenge, got the dog out and let him run at her. Success was achieved after much thrusting, mind you, she worked hard BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Good heavens Noddy! You had a severe case of beer goggles that night.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245656]Trouble is you don't know what you going to get until she strips down, such as this girl. Looked reasonably presentable clothed on Beach Road, once she removed all, well, look what I got. It was a good thing being inebriated, I love a challenge, fuck across the board not being a 10/10 seeker. I was done for the day and returning from my evening meal when I stumbled across this girl. Gave myself a challenge, got the dog out and let him run at her. Success was achieved after much thrusting, mind you, she worked hard BBBJ.[/QUOTE]You're a brave man for sharing that!

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245656]Trouble is you don't know what you going to get until she strips down, such as this girl.[/QUOTE]On a woofness scale, I would give her a resounding 10. She also looks like you have been licking her out:eek:. That devotion to mongering well above and beyond the call of duty. Congratulations Noddy, you deserve the punting equivalent of the Medal of Honor.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245656]Trouble is you don't know what you going to get until she strips down, such as this girl. Looked reasonably presentable clothed on Beach Road, once she removed all, well, look what I got. It was a good thing being inebriated, I love a challenge, fuck across the board not being a 10/10 seeker. I was done for the day and returning from my evening meal when I stumbled across this girl. Gave myself a challenge, got the dog out and let him run at her. Success was achieved after much thrusting, mind you, she worked hard BBBJ.[/QUOTE]How much did she pay you?

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245656].got the dog out and let him run at her. Success was achieved after much thrusting, mind you, she worked hard BBBJ.[/QUOTE]As long as you both had a good time then who cares. More power to you both!

QH

Now, now Gentlemen. Lets not be too negative. Later I met a stunner and went to Chum Phae, Khon kaen together. I showed her the photos, she was appalled and jealous as hell our relationship was not quite the same after that. Should I care, hell no. Bumholes1, the only need for bravery are the times I have mongered where others dare not go. The danger leads to a heighten sexperience. Thanks for the medal CS, I deny licking her out. Woofness! Now that's a new one LOL. Gave the lady 500B Luvpuss, she worked hard for it, she blew and blew. I do love a good suckle on the brown bottle Tucker M, appears I love to suckle the chicks as well.

Lets be honest here. Most scoff at photos of the less attractive girls. Gentlemen, if we were to point out ten mongers anywhere, anytime, nine would be overweight which leaves one slim. Enough said.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245771]Later I met a stunner and went to Chum Phae, Khon kaen together. I showed her the photos, she was appalled and jealous as hell[/QUOTE]Most people would be appalled too but but why would you show her the photos?

Run Mann, there is not much to be afraid of here, or else I would not have posted. It is very interesting the reaction. Had I posted an 8/10 nobody would have responded. Our girl has brought some response out of you old hound dogs. I'm not complaining, the opposite in fact, had a good giggle. I don't normaly allow girls to veiw my camera photos, however this just came about, certainly I never inform girls of posting photos on internet sites such as this. I'm somewhat dismayed at these chaps that do inform girls or seek their permision to post.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1245656]Trouble is you don't know what you going to get until she strips down, such as this girl. Looked reasonably presentable clothed on Beach Road, once she removed all, well, look what I got.[/QUOTE]I commend you Noddy for posting pictures of your choice. A lot of folks talk shit on here about the 9s and 10s they fucked, but yet, never post a single picture. I too have mongered where others dare not go, and I too, had my share of chunky ladies, and I always had a great time.

You are a true monger, keep it up, and keep posting those pictures for some of us to enjoy!

Sweet Mary Jesus. That was scarier than most horror films.

And where were you? The walls of this room look; hmm; interesting.

Can you tell us the reaction of security or desk personal when you came into the hotel? Did they check I'd for age. Just kidding but I understand that beer and the coconut beach road can do many things to you. But as long as you got the service you wanted, A big cheer for you.

[QUOTE=Noddy; 1245771]Now, now Gentlemen. Lets not be too negative. Later I met a stunner and went to Chum Phae, Khon kaen together. I showed her the photos, she was appalled and jealous as hell our relationship was not quite the same after that. Should I care, hell no. Bumholes1, the only need for bravery are the times I have mongered where others dare not go. The danger leads to a heighten sexperience. Thanks for the medal CS, I deny licking her out. Woofness! Now that's a new one LOL. Gave the lady 500B Luvpuss, she worked hard for it, she blew and blew. I do love a good suckle on the brown bottle Tucker M, appears I love to suckle the chicks as well.

Lets be honest here. Most scoff at photos of the less attractive girls. Gentlemen, if we were to point out ten mongers anywhere, anytime, nine would be overweight which leaves one slim. Enough said.[/QUOTE]Glad to see you did not take our ribbing personally. Her backside does look odd though. Looks like one connective tissue without a break between puss and AH? Also, I assume all the liquid on the sheets is her sweat?

I went to Pattaya a couple of years ago and had a great time in Club Boesche and some BDSM club a bit far from Walking Street. Is Boesche Club still open? I see conflicting reports online. If not, what would be the closest equivalent? I am talking about a good place with full nudity and shows?

I don't remember the name of the BDSM club but I recall that it was a bitfurther away from Walking Street and I had to take tranportation to get there. They had a branch and Bangkok and a website. If it doesn't exist is there any other BDSM club in town?

Would you be able to recommend me any other place that offers something that I wouldn't be able to get in Phuket or even Bangkok?

Also, are most of the hotels still girl-friendly? Any "massage" place with service on premises?

Since you boys are so in love with my baby I gift you two more snaps taken in the splendours of a ST hotel. Luvpuss, I would not be a member of this website if I got upset by remarks, as long as the ribbing is good natured and fairly positive I will respond in kind, I tend to stick to my own program and not become embroiled in flaming, I like to walk between the rain drops and practice diplomacy. My baby has just had a shower, Luvpuss, she is about to get to work.

Mackin, there is no security to speak of, you pay your 100B and proceed into the ST love hole. I was not really seeking service, it was more of a challenge to myself as I had completed my conquests of the day, just take her on and see the outcome.

Chill Out, the stains are your fellow mongers semen, letting loose. LOL.

Tomjackin, thanks, I have not had a threesome for some time those rear ends look very inviting even the chick with snake tatoo, looks like a condom over it's head.

For you guys out there looking for black girls in Pattaya, here are a group of Ugandan hookers about to be deported by immigration for loitering at the Coconut Bar charging 2, 000 to 3, 000 baht per hour for their services.

Why anyone in his right mind would pay that kind of cash for one of these dogs is beyond me when lovely Thai girls are available in quantity for less than half the price.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/02/09/7-ugandan-hookers-caught-with-loitering-for-prostitution/[/url]

[QUOTE=Noddy; 1246195]Since you boys are so in love with my baby I gift you two more snaps taken in the splendours of a ST hotel. Luvpuss, I would not be a member of this website if I got upset by remarks, as long as the ribbing is good natured and fairly positive I will respond in kind, I tend to stick to my own program and not become embroiled in flaming, I like to walk between the rain drops and practice diplomacy. My baby has just had a shower, Luvpuss, she is about to get to work.

Mackin, there is no security to speak of, you pay your 100B and proceed into the ST love hole. I was not really seeking service, it was more of a challenge to myself as I had completed my conquests of the day, just take her on and see the outcome.

Chill Out, the stains are your fellow mongers semen, letting loose. LOL.

Tomjackin, thanks, I have not had a threesome for some time those rear ends look very inviting even the chick with snake tatoo, looks like a condom over it's head.[/QUOTE]You are a true grunt Noddy, check your PM for your harzardous duty pay.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1246217]For you guys out there looking for black girls in Pattaya, here are a group of Ugandan hookers about to be deported by immigration for loitering at the Coconut Bar charging 2, 000 to 3, 000 baht per hour for their services.

Why anyone in his right mind would pay that kind of cash for one of these dogs is beyond me when lovely Thai girls are available in quantity for less than half the price.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/02/09/7-ugandan-hookers-caught-with-loitering-for-prostitution/[/url][/QUOTE]Daddy07,

I keep telling you that you don't know what you're missing? Those pictures of Noddy remind me how I lost my cherry the first time. The street walker I got look just like that. Chocolate cake? Once in a while you got to go big Daddy! Get that girl I been eyeing for you and give her a ride? You have been here in Thailand for a number of years and never went on a elephant adventure ride?

You know what they also say " once you had black you never go back "

LBM

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1246217]For you guys out there looking for black girls in Pattaya, here are a group of Ugandan hookers about to be deported by immigration for loitering at the Coconut Bar charging 2, 000 to 3, 000 baht per hour for their services.

Why anyone in his right mind would pay that kind of cash for one of these dogs is beyond me when lovely Thai girls are available in quantity for less than half the price.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/02/09/7-ugandan-hookers-caught-with-loitering-for-prostitution/[/url][/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya before they got hemmed up. I would have banged all 7 of them. Guess I will have to look out for them when I go back to visit Uganda. Thailand is not on my visit list this year, but if I changed my mind, I would be looking for both Thais and Africans. Can't we all just get along? Why deport the ladies for providing a service the Thai women (and ladyboys-yuck!) provide? Guess they kind of stick out hanging together on the beach (for safety reasons I presume). Oh well, they all look hot! Hope to see them in Uganda.

Just read the article in the paper. Love it when they say they were charging 2000 to 3000 baht. Then were fined 1000 baht made me laugh. A heavy fine indeed. Looks like they came out ahead as long as they had some busiiness.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1241042]And I'm looking forward to the next one; and the next; it just never ends.

Life is good at 65.[/QUOTE]Daddy this post made my day.

I'm 65 and about to attempt my first mongering experience.

This is the most encouraging thing I have read in any of these forums yet.

May it never end for you until the last curtain.

Thanks,

GPa

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1246217]For you guys out there looking for black girls in Pattaya, here are a group of Ugandan hookers about to be deported by immigration for loitering at the Coconut Bar charging 2, 000 to 3, 000 baht per hour for their services.

Why anyone in his right mind would pay that kind of cash for one of these dogs is beyond me when lovely Thai girls are available in quantity for less than half the price.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/02/09/7-ugandan-hookers-caught-with-loitering-for-prostitution/[/url][/QUOTE]Those Ugandans were no beauties, but I wouldn't call them all dogs either. More average. My guess is most mongers did not give them their asking price. And I've seen plenty of tourists with worse looking Thai girls. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1246278](snip) Then were fined 1000 baht made me laugh. (snip)[/QUOTE]Fined and then deported. That is less of a laugh.

Will be in Pattaya for two weeks, I am a frequent visitor.

However, one thing I have never done is visited any of the disco's. Can I get some general advice, e. G, names, locations, what time to go, etc.

Thank you.

I am going to Pattaya for the 1st time in 2 weeks. Been going to Bali the last 5 years.

I like a massage with some extras. HJ or BJ. Are there any places that you can recommend?

And please advise approx costs.

Thanks

They are ugly as sin, they would have to pay me 2000-3000b to fuck them.

They should have been fined 10000B each and deported with them footing the bill.

Here's hoping the police who might be on the take, find their agents / pimps fine them 50000B per girl they exported and deport them ASAP

Love the way the Thais parade the guilty party, obviously not to their liking. These chicks were quoting ridiculous prices, some suckers obviously payed that. I gave them a miss, rather do them in africa although I recall banging a black chick in Bangkok several years back, gave me attitude baby. They were loitering under a coconut tree in the coconut bar when apprahended LOL

[QUOTE=Noddy;1246467]Love the way the Thais parade the guilty party, obviously not to their liking. These chicks were quoting ridiculous prices, some suckers obviously payed that. I gave them a miss, rather do them in africa although I recall banging a black chick in Bangkok several years back, gave me attitude baby. They were loitering under a coconut tree in the coconut bar when apprahended LOL[/QUOTE]I guess it's the old supply and demand argument in an area where such things are hard to get. That being said, having been to Kampala, Nairobi and Mombasa, there would have to be a SIGNIFICANT price reduction, plus, I would have to have consumed a lot of alcohol!

[QUOTE=Wayne Lynch; 1246411]I am going to Pattaya for the 1st time in 2 weeks. Been going to Bali the last 5 years.

I like a massage with some extras. HJ or BJ. Are there any places that you can recommend? And please advise approx costs. Thanks[/QUOTE]Oh man, you go to the land of happy ending massages and youask if and how much?

Did you read this forum?

Just a short reminder to newbies who come to Pattaya:

Never argue with a Thai;

Always remember to pay your hooker's fee. You never know what she might be carrying in her purse.

[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/48714/german-tourist-stabbed-refusal-pay-pattaya-prostitute/[/url]

[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906;1246481]I guess it's the old supply and demand argument in an area where such things are hard to get. That being said, having been to Kampala, Nairobi and Mombasa, there would have to be a SIGNIFICANT price reduction, plus, I would have to have consumed a lot of alcohol![/QUOTE]Plus Thailand would have to be fresh out of Thai women AND any other nationality of women whether they have come to sell ass or just for holiday.

[QUOTE=HenryV; 1246394]Will be in Pattaya for two weeks, I am a frequent visitor.

However, one thing I have never done is visited any of the disco's. Can I get some general advice, e. G, names, locations, what time to go, etc.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]On walking st there is walking st disco, Lucifer, iBar / Insomnia, Tonys, Marine, Mixx.

They all play different music.

My favourites were Lucifer and Insomnia. I normally enter Lucifer at 12. 30. If I haven't found a girl I like by 1. 30, I'll leave and go to iBar / Insomnia.

Insomnia disco is located on top of ibar. They both play different music. Insomnia normally open till very late and still busy up to closing time, whereby Lucifer starts to get quiet after 2. 30.

[QUOTE=Butter69; 1246699]On walking st there is walking st disco, Lucifer, iBar / Insomnia, Tonys, Marine, Mixx.

They all play different music.

My favourites were Lucifer and Insomnia. I normally enter Lucifer at 12. 30. If I haven't found a girl I like by 1. 30, I'll leave and go to iBar / Insomnia.

Insomnia disco is located on top of ibar. They both play different music. Insomnia normally open till very late and still busy up to closing time, whereby Lucifer starts to get quiet after 2. 30.[/QUOTE]At the moment, for mysterious reasons, Insomnia is closed. (dunno when open again)

IBar still open though.

Marine is the place right now for freelancer

Hi BJ here.

Pattaya Day 1.

I decided to have an extended break last weekend, after working way too hard and long, so took myself down to Pattaya for the entire weekend. It didn't start well though as I was trying to locate a hotel close to Spanky's and could not get my bearings as to where it was. The upshot was I ended up walking backwards and forwards along beach road for about an hour. Just before I was correctly directed to Soi diamond I decided to stop in at one of the open bar areas just to the right side of walking street for a couple of beers. I find the relaxed atmosphere very refreshing compared to some of the hard sell places which are all too plentiful in and around walking street.

While I was there I got talking to a rather nice bar maid who looked to be in her mid thirties. I booked into a middle of the road hotel close to Spanky's. After the obligatory stuff I went up to the Thai river restaurant on second road, I would highly recommend this place which is set back from the main road by about 50 meters or so. Apart from being reasonably priced I have never been disappointed by the quality of the food there.

Afterwards I made a bee line for the open air bar I had been in earlier in the day and to my pleasant surprise the lady I had been talking to earlier was still there. After a couple of beers and some shared shots of tequila I weighed her up and decided that her bar fine and price was worth looking into. It turned out to be 300bt and 1, 000bt accordingly, so I took her up on the offer.

She was probably about 5'2 has the customary Thai hair length and style, a nice pleasant face but couldn't be classed as good looking. Her body was definitely up to scratch though. After the standard shower I have to say that for her age she scrubbed up very well, beautiful tits nice waist and no stretch marks. At this stage I have to say the overall experience was better than the average go-go short time. Whether it was because these girls get less business or what I'm not sure, it certainly wasn't anything to do with me being good looking because I'm not but she gave one of my top ten best slow blow jobs I have ever had. She had no reservations as to what I did to her either, I'm not saying I tried to stick a pineapple up her arse or anything like that, I'm quite respectful to these ladies despite attitudes towards them from some quarters.

When the sex started she asked to go on top which was fine by me, less effort I figured. The next one was doggy which is one of my favourites, she had a nice slim waist which was the perfect size to get my hands round and smash away as hard as I could. To finish off I asked her to lay on her side and bend the leg which was not in contact with the bed, another position I like. The satisfaction with this position is that I can watch the facial contortions as I build up to the vinegar stroke. Went to bed very happy.

Great Start to A Great Trip.

[QUOTE=Wayne Lynch; 1246411]I am going to Pattaya for the 1st time in 2 weeks. Been going to Bali the last 5 years.

I like a massage with some extras. HJ or BJ. Are there any places that you can recommend?

And please advise approx costs.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Several at soi post office (13/2?) that are good and one towards the end that is cheap too. 500 total

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1247254]Hi BJ here.

Pattaya Day 1.

I decided to have an extended break last weekend, after working way too hard and long, so took myself down to Pattaya for the entire weekend. It didn't start well though as I was trying to locate a hotel close to Spanky's and could not get my bearings as to where it was. The upshot was I ended up walking backwards and forwards along beach road for about an hour. Just before I was correctly directed to Soi diamond I decided to stop in at one of the open bar areas just to the right side of walking street for a couple of beers. I find the relaxed atmosphere very refreshing compared to some of the hard sell places which are all too plentiful in and around walking street.

While I was there I got talking to a rather nice bar maid who looked to be in her mid thirties. I booked into a middle of the road hotel close to Spanky's. After the obligatory stuff I went up to the Thai river restaurant on second road, I would highly recommend this place which is set back from the main road by about 50 meters or so. Apart from being reasonably priced I have never been disappointed by the quality of the food there.

Afterwards I made a bee line for the open air bar I had been in earlier in the day and to my pleasant surprise the lady I had been talking to earlier was still there. After a couple of beers and some shared shots of tequila I weighed her up and decided that her bar fine and price was worth looking into. It turned out to be 300bt and 1, 000bt accordingly, so I took her up on the offer.

She was probably about 5'2 has the customary Thai hair length and style, a nice pleasant face but couldn't be classed as good looking. Her body was definitely up to scratch though. After the standard shower I have to say that for her age she scrubbed up very well, beautiful tits nice waist and no stretch marks. At this stage I have to say the overall experience was better than the average go-go short time. Whether it was because these girls get less business or what I'm not sure, it certainly wasn't anything to do with me being good looking because I'm not but she gave one of my top ten best slow blow jobs I have ever had. She had no reservations as to what I did to her either, I'm not saying I tried to stick a pineapple up her arse or anything like that, I'm quite respectful to these ladies despite attitudes towards them from some quarters.

When the sex started she asked to go on top which was fine by me, less effort I figured. The next one was doggy which is one of my favourites, she had a nice slim waist which was the perfect size to get my hands round and smash away as hard as I could. To finish off I asked her to lay on her side and bend the leg which was not in contact with the bed, another position I like. The satisfaction with this position is that I can watch the facial contortions as I build up to the vinegar stroke. Went to bed very happy.

Great Start to A Great Trip.[/QUOTE]HAHA. Glad you made a report Dr. BJ. With all the access to those girls I was wondering. On my last trip to your shop, I asked the girl if you sample them and she said " No, he has to go outside like everyone else". I commend you for doing that and for your post. A man has to do what he has to do. Good for you!

Hi, I don't know at all Thailand and if you know very fine it I hope you can give me some info.

I like to get a girlfriend experience for one week with a beautiful girl. I don't like Pattaya because it is very commercial.

I don't like "pro" girls. I'd like to reach a unknown seaside where there are many beautiful girls liking some experiences with foreigns.

Thanks for some precious news.

after getting an eyeful, police shut down the music, turned up the lights and detained about 40 workers. nine were found to be not only from laos, but **** 18. nine other under-18 thai girls were also discovered.

[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/****-girls-migrants-found-during-go-go-raid-9986[/url]

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1247390](snip) Unfortunately, most of the bar girls that I would encounter on this trip were not really interested in GFE experiences, but rather to make as much money as possible by fucking as many clients as they could during their shift. Some might have enjoyed the sex, but their interest was primarily commercial. (snip)[/QUOTE]See above. I shortened your report a little.

Funny, I've never had a problem getting a bargirl to go to a hotel room with me.

[quote=mr enternational; 1247486]after getting an eyeful, police shut down the music, turned up the lights and detained about 40 workers. nine were found to be not only from laos, but **** 18. nine other under-18 thai girls were also discovered.

[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/****-girls-migrants-found-during-go-go-raid-9986[/url][/quote]while reading this link, i checked out [url]http://www.pattayamail.com/pictures/pattaya-fashion-week/?ref=bnr-postart[/url]

and saw some lovely bikini models at fashion week.

slim

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1247477]Hi, I don't know at all Thailand and if you know very fine it I hope you can give me some info.

I like to get a girlfriend experience for one week with a beautiful girl. I don't like Pattaya because it is very commercial.

I don't like "pro" girls. I'd like to reach a unknown seaside where there are many beautiful girls liking some experiences with foreigns.

Thanks for some precious news.[/QUOTE]Good luck and if your search is successful do share the precious news.

Thank you.

Will give them a try.

Forgot, one other thing, are the guys mostly younger, or is it a mixed crowd. Don't want to be out of place.

[QUOTE=Butter69; 1246699]On walking st there is walking st disco, Lucifer, iBar / Insomnia, Tonys, Marine, Mixx.

They all play different music.

My favourites were Lucifer and Insomnia. I normally enter Lucifer at 12. 30. If I haven't found a girl I like by 1. 30, I'll leave and go to iBar / Insomnia.

Insomnia disco is located on top of ibar. They both play different music. Insomnia normally open till very late and still busy up to closing time, whereby Lucifer starts to get quiet after 2. 30.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HenryV;1247773]Forgot, one other thing, are the guys mostly younger, or is it a mixed crowd. Don't want to be out of place.[/QUOTE]I'm 39 and they are my regular hangouts. My dad is 61 and he hangs out at those places with me when he comes. My mom is 58 and she just visited for the first time. I took her and her sisters to Lucifer with me. Flex is the new (a few months old) hip-hop club. It doesn't really get started until 2am though.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1247477]Hi, I don't know at all Thailand and if you know very fine it I hope you can give me some info.

I like to get a girlfriend experience for one week with a beautiful girl. I don't like Pattaya because it is very commercial.

I don't like "pro" girls. I'd like to reach a unknown seaside where there are many beautiful girls liking some experiences with foreigns.

Thanks for some precious news.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to hook up with a bar girl and take her away from the madness of Walking Street. Many to be found there; suggest the Pattaya Beer Garden at the entrance to WS. Very good selection in the evening. [url]http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1247477]I like to get a girlfriend experience for one week with a beautiful girl. I don't like Pattaya because it is very commercial.

I don't like "pro" girls. I'd like to reach a unknown seaside where there are many beautiful girls liking some experiences with foreigns.

Thanks for some precious news.[/QUOTE]Look, man; any beautiful girl who is willing to meet a total foreign stranger for a week at the beach with sex and GFE included is a hooker, i.e. "pro," plain and simple, and that is the precious news whether you like it or not.

Maybe you could go on Thai Love Links or some other dating Internet site and find a non-pro gullable fool who will go with you for a week with nothing expected in return except hugs and kisses, but I seriously doubt it. Do you look like Brad Pit and have money like Bill Gates?

If you believe in the afterlife, my advice would be to wait until you are dead and go to heaven where your irrational dreams might come true. I hear they have "unknown seasides" up there with beautiful girls just waiting for guys like you to come along.

Good luck,

Daddy

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1248163]Look, man; any beautiful girl who is willing to meet a total foreign stranger for a week at the beach with sex and GFE included is a hooker, plain and simple, and that is the precious news whether you like it or not.

Maybe you could go on Thai Love Links or some other dating Internet site and find a non-pro gullable fool who will go with you for a week with nothing expected in return except hugs and kisses, but I seriously doubt it. Do you look like Brad Pit and have money like Bill Gates?

If you believe in the afterlife, my advice would be to wait until you are dead and go to heaven where your irrational dreams might come true.

Good luck,

Daddy[/QUOTE]You are right 98 out of 100 times. As you said, the dating sites are a chance though. If you have some time to invest at the front end, it is possible to meet a great girl. I have. I invested several days in BKK and we liked each other and still spend time together when I am in town. Thai friendly is where I met her. There are 1000's of girls on that site. But generally, your comments about them being P4P are correct.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1248163]Look, man; any beautiful girl who is willing to meet a total foreign stranger for a week at the beach with sex and GFE included is a (snip).[/QUOTE]Daddy, Daddy, oh where oh where did true romance go? Not Pattaya, for sure-a!

Probably the closest this guy would ever come to his dream would be to meet a "good girl" in a "legit" massage shop (no funny stuff, aka FS), charm her and invite her on a "holiday," compensate the shop for her "days off," and then give the woman a "gift" for her lost wages and her many phone home calls to mama.

Is she a prostitute? Maybe in Norway. But in Thailand, no way, she is a "girlfriend." ;)

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1248170]Is she a prostitute? Maybe in Norway. But in Thailand, no way, she is a "girlfriend." ;)[/QUOTE]She's a pro, a ho, and I don't mean no. :D
(Legit massage shop: hahahahah!)

[quote=mr enternational; 1247486]after getting an eyeful, police shut down the music, turned up the lights and detained about 40 workers. nine were found to be not only from laos, but **** 18. nine other under-18 thai girls were also discovered.

[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/****-girls-migrants-found-during-go-go-raid-9986[/url][/quote]all the photos were staged when the brass showed up an hour after the raid, with press photographers in tow. the place was shut down for the night, but saturday night, everything was normal including what seemed to be all the same girls. there is no way they took eighteen girls out of there, **** or not, unless they were all hiding in cribs somewhere and never made it to a stage. politics, politics, pattaya style.

Pattaya Day 2.

Based on this good experience I decided to try a similar set up which is based just inside walking street and pitched up at the frog bar. I downed 3 or 4 beers then started talking to a really petite lady who looked like she had average sized, but very firm breasts. She did have false eye lashes which I have never liked but the rest of her was a sight to be admired.

The bar fine here was 500 bt and ST was 1, 500 which I could easily relate to as the ladies here were a good few notches above the previous nights offerings. The BBBJ was good but she needed a few pointers. Next I decided to lay her across the dressing table and bend her legs up near her armpits. She was surprisingly tight, didn't actually ask but guessed her age to be around mid twenties. I really enjoyed the rocking of the dressing table and her sensual moaning so spent quite a while in this position. Transferred her to the bed and put her in the doggy position on the edge of the bed and smashed her as I was standing up. I would have liked to pump her in this position a bit longer but I'm the wrong age for that type of bedroom gymnastics so I turned her over grabbed pert tits and pumped away as hard as I could. Have to say it was a great cum.

After showering and changing I went to Spanky's to watch a live gig around 10 pm It was a great bit of live music and I enjoyed it. A very cute lady asked if she could sit with me, I said she could but told her I was not interested in any bar fine, sat back and got pissed and told her I might be back the following evening. After getting really pissed I rolled out of the bar at around 2 A. M and made a determined beeline for my bed.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1248357]Pattaya Day 2.

Based on this good experience I decided to try a similar set up which is based just inside walking street and pitched up at the frog bar. I downed 3 or 4 beers then started talking to a really petite lady who looked like she had average sized, but very firm breasts. She did have false eye lashes which I have never liked but the rest of her was a sight to be admired.

The bar fine here was 500 bt and ST was 1, 500 which I could easily relate to as the ladies here were a good few notches above the previous nights offerings. The BBBJ was good but she needed a few pointers. Next I decided to lay her across the dressing table and bend her legs up near her armpits. She was surprisingly tight, didn't actually ask but guessed her age to be around mid twenties. I really enjoyed the rocking of the dressing table and her sensual moaning so spent quite a while in this position. Transferred her to the bed and put her in the doggy position on the edge of the bed and smashed her as I was standing up. I would have liked to pump her in this position a bit longer but I'm the wrong age for that type of bedroom gymnastics so I turned her over grabbed pert tits and pumped away as hard as I could. Have to say it was a great cum.

After showering and changing I went to Spanky's to watch a live gig around 10 pm It was a great bit of live music and I enjoyed it. A very cute lady asked if she could sit with me, I said she could but told her I was not interested in any bar fine, sat back and got pissed and told her I might be back the following evening. After getting really pissed I rolled out of the bar at around 2 A. M and made a determined beeline for my bed.[/QUOTE]You should tell that girl to come to BKK and have Fon at your shop teach her how to give a BBBJ. HAHAHA.

Hi fellas,

I posted a question on the Bangkok boards and it was suggested that I try my luck here. I'm off to Thailand for my first visit shortly and in amongst visits to some of the more flashy and famous bars / clubs, I'd like to seek out some of the really cheap, seedy and degrading elements of the PFP scene. I'm talking BJ bars, back alleys, unlit parks, stairwells, beaches, toilet blocks etc. I got a few tips for Bangkok but would love to hear your thoughts on places that fit this description in Pattaya. Someone mentioned a place called 'The Woods'?

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[QUOTE=Nekama; 1248522]Hi fellas,

I posted a question on the Bangkok boards and it was suggested that I try my luck here. I'm off to Thailand for my first visit shortly and in amongst visits to some of the more flashy and famous bars / clubs, I'd like to seek out some of the really cheap, seedy and degrading elements of the PFP scene. I'm talking BJ bars, back alleys, unlit parks, stairwells, beaches, toilet blocks etc. I got a few tips for Bangkok but would love to hear your thoughts on places that fit this description in Pattaya. Someone mentioned a place called 'The Woods'?[/QUOTE]It should still be there. Take the road to Jomtien, turn left at the trafiic light into Threprasit Road, which goes back towards Sukhumvit. Look for a sign that says "Hagone Condotel", turn left at this sign and about 75 metres in there are some fairly basic local joints, matresses on the floor upstairs etc, was 300 bht all in for FS. Look for windoes with blacked out curtains etc, karaoke joints claiming to be.

[QUOTE=Nekama; 1248522]Hi fellas,

I posted a question on the Bangkok boards and it was suggested that I try my luck here. I'm off to Thailand for my first visit shortly and in amongst visits to some of the more flashy and famous bars / clubs, I'd like to seek out some of the really cheap, seedy and degrading elements of the PFP scene. I'm talking BJ bars, back alleys, unlit parks, stairwells, beaches, toilet blocks etc. I got a few tips for Bangkok but would love to hear your thoughts on places that fit this description in Pattaya. Someone mentioned a place called 'The Woods'?[/QUOTE]I think Nekam would enjoy the Bush Babes. Some right scum there who will give a blow job from 100bt up.

Up the hill towards Jomtien, turn right before the tourist police. There are usually women there 24 hours a day.

[QUOTE=Nekama; 1248522]Hi fellas,

I posted a question on the Bangkok boards and it was suggested that I try my luck here. I'm off to Thailand for my first visit shortly and in amongst visits to some of the more flashy and famous bars / clubs, I'd like to seek out some of the really cheap, seedy and degrading elements of the PFP scene. I'm talking BJ bars, back alleys, unlit parks, stairwells, beaches, toilet blocks etc. I got a few tips for Bangkok but would love to hear your thoughts on places that fit this description in Pattaya. Someone mentioned a place called 'The Woods'?[/QUOTE]Walk down Soi 6 and Soi 8 at 6-8 am. Plenty of attractive girls (most are tall) there who will blow or fuck you in a rat infested alley. Very cheap too!

[quote=luvpuss;1248738]walk down soi 6 and soi 8 at 6-8 am. plenty of attractive girls (most are tall) there who will blow or fuck you in a rat infested alley. very cheap too![/quote]you are ridiculing the question by a misleading reply referring to ladyboys. this is dishonest and might plunge that person into physical harrasment. your aim is to imply that you are above those requested mongering scenes.

you seem to forget that in your own country, in bombay, the slums contains the filthiest largest brothels in the world catering to you guys for few rupees a bang.

The mainstream American media is making a big deal out of the fact that the Iranian BKK bombers spent some time beforehand in notoriously sexually decadent Pattaya "cavorting with prostitutes," as if that had something to do with their crimes.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/thai-cops-iran-suspects-cavorted-prostitutes-082228077.html[/url]

Gee, I've been here for almost five years now cavorting with prostitutes, yet I've not once felt any urge to bomb Israelis in BKK, or commit any crimes at all, for that matter.

WTF? I guess liking pussy is bad and most people in the states think we are all bad for enjoying our hobby.

I'm sure the bombers enjoyed some Thai food while they were here too, but I doubt that had anything to do with the bombing either.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1248953]The mainstream American media is making a big deal out of the fact that the Iranian BKK bombers spent some time beforehand in notoriously sexually decadent Pattaya "cavorting with prostitutes," as if that had something to do with their crimes. WTF? I guess liking pussy is bad and most people in the states think we are all bad for enjoying our hobby.

I'm sure the bombers enjoyed some Thai food while they were here too, but I doubt that had anything to do with the bombing either.[/QUOTE]
It's that stuff they smoke in those sheeshas. ;)

What? Somebody call to check up on you?

And, come to think of it, didn't you tell me one time that you'd like to bomb the IRS?

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1248979]And, come to think of it, didn't you tell me one time that you'd like to bomb the IRS?[/QUOTE]Hell no; I don't pay no stinkin' taxes.

You must be thinking about Rick Santorum's campaign headquarters.

I guess they knew what they were doing having some fun especially the one guy before got his leg and most likely his middle leg blown off.

LBM

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1248984]Hell no; I don't pay no stinkin' taxes.

You must be thinking about Rick Santorum's campaign headquarters.[/QUOTE]Daddy is a Ron Paul supporter!

LBM

Pattaya Day 3.

The following day I decided to sleep through as much of my impending hangover as possible and didn't get up till 1 pm I roamed lazily around for much of the afternoon, bought a couple of shirts had a couple of beers with some friends and thought a late afternoon kip was on the cards. After showering and eating I felt like a new man and decided to head back to Spanky's as my thoughts kept drifting back to the very attractive lady I had sat with the night before.

I wandered in around 10:30 and was pleasantly surprised not only to see some people I knew already there but the good looking lady up dancing. She finished her stint and came across to sit next to me. Her English was good and I enjoyed having a conversation with her. After 2 or 3 beers I decided if I was going to ST her now was the time I. E before I had drunk too much.

It was the standard 700bt bar fine and 2, 000 to the lady. She wasted no time in jumping into the shower so I did the same. To my surprise she actually took her time with some sensual kissing for a good 5 or so minutes. She was pretty enough that I decided to give her head which seemed to surprise her. I have to say I get turned on by making these ladies moan, scream and then come to a shuddering orgasm.

When it came to the BJ she insisted on using a condom which is not as pleasant but I never cajole or bully the ladies into doing something they don't want to do. Bless her she seemed to try very hard to compensate for the fact it was condom on and sucked away like a maniac until I told her the performance was satisfactory. Was feeling not on top of the world by all the weekends antics so asked her to start on top, which she happily obliged.

Rather than trying to make me cum a. S. A. P she was concentrating on her own orgasm, which I had no problem with as this extends the whole experience. As you can guess the next position was doggy, but rather than remaining prone I leaned over her and grabbed one of her tits, which is another personal turn on for me. Her loud moans had a profound effect on me and I knew the end wasn't far away. To finish her off I turned her over and pounded away in the missionary position trying to think about oil rigs, jcb's and Margaret Thatcher in order to try to prolong the experience. This was to no avail and a couple of minutes later came to a shuddering orgasm. I thanked the lady, paid her with a tip, bade her farewell and crashed out a very happy man.

Regards,

BJ

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1248953]Gee, I've been here for almost five years now cavorting with prostitutes, yet I've not once felt any urge to bomb Israelis in BKK, or commit any crimes at all, for that matter.[/QUOTE]My guess is these guys were suicide bombers and just getting some practice in for all them virgins in paradise.

Hello everybody

First of all I want thank all bm for their kind and honest contribution which made my trip memorable

I visited Pattaya from 29 jan to 5 feb newbee tp Pattaya have visited Bangkok once [but ihad accumulated so much of wealth of knowledge from you all and Pattaya photoguide, Pattaya night life index, I was ready]

Day 1.

Got down at suvarnabhumi went up at departues lounge, plenty of taxies waiting negotited with first person only for 1100 bht[inclusseive of tolls]and was in Pattaya by 5 pm.

Checked in to l k empress hotel at beach road at soi 12 [booked thru agoda], great guest friendly hotel, check in was uneventfull.

I had room facing sea great view, spacious bathrooms, good jacuzzzi, good swimming pool,

After being fresh, came down, exchanged currency, took my firsy baht bus to sabai dee.

Sabai dee has 2 lounges with three categories one red 1800 bht, one blue 2500 bht, and one more VIP lounge at left side of entry.

Henken is 130 bht selected girl wth big boobs 193no surprise surprise, she had padded up, literally no boobs at all [suggestion;. Openly ask the tg whether these boobs are real after the first episode I started asking ] good soapy massage but I was slightly dejected by small boobs after 2 hours I was back at my hotel. Went wolk street cocktail loung on road side oppossite royal garden plaza[ there are road side cock tail lounges and good one too economical]had banana pan cake [too good]wnt to walking street.

Move up and down at least 5 times [ in case if some of be m have seen fatty middle aged male with open salivating mouth drooling all over that was me ]. Street was filled wih japs, korean, Chinese, taiwan tourists, saw very less Russian and indians.

Came across girls of all colours, thai, african, uzbeks, turkey [ that plumpy lady sitting near beginning beach road with black dress is from turkey recognized mybelly from Bangkok times un fortunately that day she was busy so long. Searched for chick of my desire, plenty of choices to choose at last I picked one for s. T. 700bht.

Took her to room had henken together and after traditional shower CBJ, and FS good, too good after 2 rounds she confessed she has lesbian girl friend available at same rate had her mobile number and off she goes.

I slept till 10 am

Day 2

Had breakfast at hotel a paradise for non vegeterians multiple dishes to chosse from

Had jacuzzi bath, went be happy massage parlour in soi post office, unfortunately wrong communication, got wrong girl, [ I was of the opinoin that the girl I have choosen will come later, shocked to see some 40 plus maid to give you oil bath just opted for oil massage nothing else she was good at her job came back showered, had lunch and slept again got up at 7pm one more cocktail bar on the road near soi pattayaland just kept observing, too tired from yesterdays 3 shots went back to room after visiting and drinking some agogos as you people have mentioned insomnia was closed lucifer was too loud for me more in my next posting

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1249014]My guess is these guys were suicide bombers and just getting some practice in for all them virgins in paradise.[/QUOTE]If they knew they were going to blow themselves up, I wonder if they wore a condom?

Chuckled to myself.

I am 62 and on last years visit I took my son wh is 32.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1247847]I'm 39 and they are my regular hangouts. My dad is 61 and he hangs out at those places with me when he comes. My mom is 58 and she just visited for the first time. I took her and her sisters to Lucifer with me. Flex is the new (a few months old) hip-hop club. It doesn't really get started until 2am though.[/QUOTE]

i rarely weigh in on this stuff, however, such obtuse comments, particularly regarding ladyboys, have no place on this board, i. e, you can get someone seriously injured, or killed.

one would think this board is designed to help and assist a fellow travelor.

[quote=jimmybates; 1248756]you are ridiculing the question by a misleading reply referring to ladyboys. this is dishonest and might plunge that person into physical harrasment. your aim is to imply that you are above those requested mongering scenes.

you seem to forget that in your own country, in bombay, the slums contains the filthiest largest brothels in the world catering to you guys for few rupees a bang.[/quote]

Looks like those idiots who tried to blow everything up in Bangkok decided to have some fun in Pattaya on Soi Baghdad before they tried to enter paradise.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102691/Hookers-hookahs-Bungling-Iranian-bombers-pictured-partying-prostitutes-botched-Bangkok-attack.html[/url]

[quote=jimmybates; 1248756]you are ridiculing the question by a misleading reply referring to ladyboys. this is dishonest and might plunge that person into physical harrasment. your aim is to imply that you are above those requested mongering scenes.

you seem to forget that in your own country, in bombay, the slums contains the filthiest largest brothels in the world catering to you guys for few rupees a bang.[/quote]i 2nd this post to the fullest, why be so ignorant towards a fellow monger?

[QUOTE=Nekama; 1248522]Hi fellas,

I posted a question on the Bangkok boards and it was suggested that I try my luck here. I'm off to Thailand for my first visit shortly and in amongst visits to some of the more flashy and famous bars / clubs, I'd like to seek out some of the really cheap, seedy and degrading elements of the PFP scene. I'm talking BJ bars, back alleys, unlit parks, stairwells, beaches, toilet blocks etc. I got a few tips for Bangkok but would love to hear your thoughts on places that fit this description in Pattaya. Someone mentioned a place called 'The Woods'?[/QUOTE]If you do decide to venture out in the morning on Soi 6 or 8, make sure you bring some lube and condoms. They usually will lift up their dress and want you to do them doggie style or from behind against a wall or leaning over a fence. Make sure you are prepared.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1249135]If you do decide to venture out in the morning on Soi 6 or 8, make sure you bring some lube and condoms. They usually will lift up their dress and want you to do them doggie style or from behind against a wall or leaning over a fence. Make sure you are prepared.[/QUOTE]You might need to bring a few paper bags, too. One for the "girl," and a few the the local soi dogs! ;)

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1249198]You might need to bring a few paper bags, too. One for the "girl," and a few the the local soi dogs! ;)[/QUOTE]HAHA. I love it man. Hilarious.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1249198]You might need to bring a few paper bags, too. One for the "girl," and a few the the local soi dogs! ;)[/QUOTE]Damn. I need to borrow a couple of those while I'm still stuck in the States!

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1249198]You might need to bring a few paper bags, too. One for the "girl," and a few the the local soi dogs! ;)[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Thanks to you Fon Tok, my morning cereal is now adorning the kitchen wall:D.

It all sounds to be a totally joyless experience. Maybe he would have more fun scoring a freebie with one of the soi dogs.

[quote=mr enternational; 1247486]after getting an eyeful, police shut down the music, turned up the lights and detained about 40 workers. nine were found to be not only from laos, but **** 18. nine other under-18 thai girls were also discovered.

[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/****-girls-migrants-found-during-go-go-raid-9986[/url][/quote]1) silver star on walking street was one of my favorite go-go bars. didn't notice all those **** girls; i thought i was good spotting them (well, i guess not).

[quote=ed heres;1248296]all the photos were staged when the brass showed up an hour after the raid, with press photographers in tow. the place was shut down for the night, but saturday night, everything was normal including what seemed to be all the same girls. there is no way they took eighteen girls out of there, **** or not, unless they were all hiding in cribs somewhere and never made it to a stage. politics, politics, pattaya style.[/quote]2) silver star agogo on walking street were closed this past friday and saturday nights.

3) many girls were present on beach road on friday and saturday nights; more than during the daytime. of course, most (all?) were in the ugly range (1-5).

note: what is this thing about coconut bar; i'm assuming some of the posters are referring to beach road (it has coconut trees). the way some posters mention it, it seems they think it's a real bar (probably because they are fakes; some people like to pretend).

4) speaking about probable fakes: there will probably be ladyboys on soi 6 early in the morning. i've never stayed up till 6 am, but at 3 am, there are scary looking ladyboys there. be careful. i wouldn't mess with things that can kick my ass. if you get tricked, i would just pay up and run like hell. the russians in the below story should have.

[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/russians-get-beating-after-gender-bender-8608[/url]

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1249594]3) Many girls were present on Beach Road on Friday and Saturday nights; more than during the daytime. Of course, most (all?) were in the ugly range (1-5).

Note: What is this thing about Coconut Bar; I'm assuming some of the posters are referring to Beach Road (it has coconut trees). The way some posters mention it, it seems they think it's a real bar (probably because they are fakes; some people like to pretend).[/QUOTE]Coconut bar is used as euphemism or colloquialism for some but your description of it is correct. I missed the increase of girl on BR last night, seem to be just a regular night in town

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1249597]Coconut bar is used as euphemism or colloquialism for some but your description of it is correct. I missed the increase of girl on BR last night, seem to be just a regular night in town[/QUOTE.

Beach Road A. K. A. Coconut Bar, will change this year. Where the girls will go is anyone guess? Starting in March of this year there will be a 140 million baht beautification project on Beach Road. If will be divided into Five Zones the starting point for Zone one is at the starting point of Dusit Hotel and will work itself down to Walking Street. They plan to add another lane for cars which will take 3 meters of the promenade. Not only will it be a mess down there where are the girls going? I'm sure they will find a place even under the construction?

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1249614]

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1249597]Coconut bar is used as euphemism or colloquialism for some but your description of it is correct. I missed the increase of girl on BR last night, seem to be just a regular night in town[/QUOTE]Beach Road A. K. A. Coconut Bar, will change this year. Where the girls will go is anyone guess? Starting in March of this year there will be a 140 million baht beautification project on Beach Road. If will be divided into Five Zones the starting point for Zone one is at the starting point of Dusit Hotel and will work itself down to Walking Street. They plan to add another lane for cars which will take 3 meters of the promenade. Not only will it be a mess down there where are the girls going? I'm sure they will find a place even under the construction?

LBM[/QUOTE]This whole place is changing, Bar Beers are being demolished all over town and being replaced with hotels. Most of the bars on Second Road from Soi 5 to soi 2 are gone. Seems like a race between new condos and hotels owners to see who will set one up first. Pattaya is ever-changing but not all for the good.

Hello, everybody.

Does someone know why Police did a raid in this disco that night.

Around midnight.

Lot of guys from Police and Tourist Police.

Thxx

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1249614]Beach Road A. K. A. Coconut Bar, will change this year. Where the girls will go is anyone guess? Starting in March of this year there will be a 140 million baht beautification project on Beach Road. If will be divided into Five Zones the starting point for Zone one is at the starting point of Dusit Hotel and will work itself down to Walking Street. They plan to add another lane for cars which will take 3 meters of the promenade. Not only will it be a mess down there where are the girls going? I'm sure they will find a place even under the construction?[/QUOTE]I just hope there are plans for a new ST hotel.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1249614][Beach Road A. K. A. Coconut Bar, will change this year. Where the girls will go is anyone guess? LBM[/QUOTE]Maybe they'll go to Jomtien where there is lots of room on the promonade; or maybe the darkside will experience a revival. It woulod be way too bad if they disappeared.

If three meters are taken from the Coconut Bar, they'll be not much left except sand and beach chairs

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1249783]Maybe they'll go to Jomtien where there is lots of room on the promonade; or maybe the darkside will experience a revival. It woulod be way too bad if they disappeared.

If three meters are taken from the Coconut Bar, they'll be not much left except sand and beach chairs[/QUOTE]Not much room left, you're right but they plan to bring in more sand from Rayong to help with the erosion on the beach right now. This mayor and City planners are way over there heads. They only know Tourist? They are nearly finished with placing Dolphins on top of poles on Pattaya Nua. They think putting in another lane is going to help with the traffic it will just give the Songthaws another lane to stop what a waste of money like the 125 million they spent on the traffic lights.

I hope they never come over to the darkside, but they do have plans when they are done to do the same for Jomtien.

LBM

[QUOTE=Leggy11;1249909]Now there are short times and there are short times and I would imagine everybody views them differently. For me, maybe slightly more expensive than the basic short time package, you can't beat the Penthouse Hotel. It's a sex mongers paradise with all the bits and pieces thrown in for a good sex experience. You might find girls give a bit more in this type of setting instead of just going through the motions. Pay the extra and give it a try.[/QUOTE]How much extra? What is the short time rate for a room at the Penthouse?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1249614]

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1249597]Coconut bar is used as euphemism or colloquialism for some but your description of it is correct. I missed the increase of girl on BR last night, seem to be just a regular night in town[/QUOTE.

Beach Road A. K. A. Coconut Bar, will change this year. Where the girls will go is anyone guess? Starting in March of this year there will be a 140 million baht beautification project on Beach Road. If will be divided into Five Zones the starting point for Zone one is at the starting point of Dusit Hotel and will work itself down to Walking Street. They plan to add another lane for cars which will take 3 meters of the promenade. Not only will it be a mess down there where are the girls going? I'm sure they will find a place even under the construction?

LBM[/QUOTE]It will be a pain in the ass, but part of it I understand is fixing the beach erosion. As you know, there is only about 10 feet of sand along areas of that beach. On the big picture though, once they get it done, more and more families will probably be visiting.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1249962]

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1249614]It will be a pain in the ass, but part of it I understand is fixing the beach erosion. As you know, there is only about 10 feet of sand along areas of that beach. On the big picture though, once they get it done, more and more families will probably be visiting.[/QUOTE]In fact I think it is the opposite? The erosion has been a problem for sometime but the money for the beautification on the boardwalk is separate from the erosion. As I noted their solution is to bring more sand from Rayong. Whether they have a solution for the erosion of the new sand who knows? Aside from the beautification they want to come up with a new plan to limit and control the beach chair vendors. They want all the beach chair to look the same color along with the embrellas.

In fact once they take the portion of the walkway which is the area they have been using to set up the tents for the vendors from time to time is going to be gone. Once the addition car lane is created the jogging path will be off the new lane. So by doing this it will be less space for the tourist to walk and certainly the space to set up tents for vendors to sell their wares to draw the tourist will no longer be available unless they set up on the new car lane?

Those that know Pattaya and Beach road, I say close you eyes for a minute. Now visual think from Soi 7, looking down beach road what the third lane will look like and visual think how close you are now to the beach. Last year they put up all those nice lights now they will have to all come down. What I'm thinking is what a big mess and where the pussy is going? While looking for a ho you just might fall into one?

LBM

Does the Castle still exists? How is it now?

[QUOTE=Leifeng;1250026]Does the Castle still exists? How is it now?[/QUOTE]I believe it is gone? No S&M for you? I will double check?

LBM

I stopped by Bliss last night and they have sign on the bar saying BJ's will increase in cost to 700B, starting March 1st. :(

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1249981]Those that know Pattaya and Beach road, I say close you eyes for a minute. Now visual think from Soi 7, looking down beach road what the third lane will look like and visual think how close you are now to the beach. Last year they put up all those nice lights now they will have to all come down. What I'm thinking is what a big mess and where the pussy is going? While looking for a ho you just might fall into one?

LBM[/QUOTE]You failed to mention the bottleneck an extra lane on BR would cause at Pattaya Tai and Walking St.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1250222]You failed to mention the bottleneck an extra lane on BR would cause at Pattaya Tai and Walking St.[/QUOTE]Your right! Knowing the engineers they will built something real stupid. In the end I wouldn't be surprise that they beautify the place and make the traffic worse! Maybe they will built a lane right into Beergarden? Solution for traffic is built another lane just like they want to build flyovers on Sukhumvit because they can't direct traffic.

LBM

just checked out this forum, and after having spent my first night in pattaya, thought i would file a report.

i actually had met a girl online and was going to hook up with her in pattaya, as she lives there, but she was not available that day or night. hmmm. so i had to spend my first night in pattaya, alone, on valentine's day. not a good idea.

soooo, i hit the streets to check out the scene, with no real intention of actually getting a girl. i had read online about the pattaya go-go and beer bar scenes, but nothing really prepares you for it.

still, i knew about soi 6, and decided that was the place to go to check out the action. i took a motorbike ride there, and started to walk up and down soi 6 and an adjacent street. at first, i thought i would do nothing, but i was still tired and sore from jet lag and the bus ride from bangkok, so i elected to take someone up on their offer of a massage. actually, i ignored the fat, ugly woman who had called out to me, in favor of a tall, slender girl with a nice body and bad teeth. she gave me a great massage with the obligatory happy ending, and i figured that would satisfy me until at least the next day.

but once i was back on the street, i realized it was too early, and i wasn't ready to go back to the hotel just yet. i walked by a few beer bars, and was actually drawn to the pool tables. i stuck around for a while and played pool with a couple of girls. pretty cool, as there was no pressure to buy them drinks. they were dressed in street clothes, so i really had no idea what their actual jobs were.

meanwhile, the bar next door had about six or seven girls in little black dresses hanging around, clearly waiting for work. one of them was about five feet tall, slender and very cute. much cuter than the other girls. so when i had initially passed her, i had thought "i may have to come back here later." she was still there while i played pool next door, but i assumed she would get snapped up soon by a horny farang.

to my surprise, she was still there when i left the pool bar and walked outside. seeing her for the third time was just too much temptation for me, so i went right up to her and said hi and offered to buy her a lady drink. we played a game of pool, and by the end of it, i was thinking i would be ready to pop again, especially with a girl like this, so why not take her back to the hotel? we left in a tuk tuk, and for 1000 baht and a 300 baht bar fine, i had a spinner on my hands. she took the standard shower first, and then i took mine, keeping my shorts, wallet and passport with me at all times (i am not that much of a trusting soul). when i came out of the shower, she was sitting there waiting for me on the bed with her towel still wrapped around her like a shy high school girl. nice. i sat down next to her, a little surprised by the passivity. i said, 'what do you want to do first? ' and she said (drum roll). what else?"up to you." ah, thailand. you can totally understand how these guys "lose the plot" and fall for a bar girl.

well, i peeled off the towel and saw the nicest little pancake breasts with perfect brown nipples i had ever seen in real life. i peeled the towel down further to reveal her shaven pussy, and then it was off to the races. i had my own condoms, having read that the thai condoms are rather small, and i slammed her in multiple positions for a good forty-five minutes or so: missionary, doggy, and a nice variation on missionary i like to call 'legs over your head, ' which seems to tighten up even the tightest girls. this one was pretty tight, especially considering what she does for a living.

finally, i decided to just take off the condom and shoot it all over her chest and abdomen. she was so petite that my load covered almost her entire torso. i gave her an extra 500 baht as a tip and meandered over to the local 7-11 with her, where we bought some cold drinks before she was on her way. by then, it was pretty late, and i doubted she would get another customer at that hour, so i had no problems giving her a big tip. all in all, it was about 65 bucks american, including the bar fine, which is pretty cheap. and she said she was 26, but she looked about 18 (or less) , so i really could not have asked for more.

by the next day, i was with a nice "non-working" girl and getting it for free. which, of course, is even better. but i will not soon forget the experience of my first and only bar girl.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1249198]You might need to bring a few paper bags, too. One for the "girl," and a few the the local soi dogs! ;)[/QUOTE]Listen, the next time you post something this funny, you need to post a warning in the title!

I hate having beer coming out my nose and having to clean my monitor!

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1250288]Your right! Knowing the engineers they will built something real stupid. In the end I wouldn't be surprise that they beautify the place and make the traffic worse! Maybe they will built a lane right into Beergarden? Solution for traffic is built another lane just like they want to build flyovers on Sukhumvit because they can't direct traffic. LBM[/QUOTE]Building more lanes, as the last resort to improve traffic flow, is a well known traffic engineering fallacy. All it does is help encourage bigger traffic jams.

I can only imagine with another lane that Reach Road will become even more dangerous for pedestrians to cross. Narrowing the popular pedestrian promenade to accommodate more vehicles seems like a stupid idea for a tourist town that wants to sell its "beach" as an attraction.

Maybe they are just trying to get rid of the "working" girls. Take away all the benches and where will all the riff-raff, (Coconut Bar "hostesses and their assorted "camp followers"), sit and discuss the meaning of life. Just simple Thai logic to make it uncomfortable and they will move on.

In Pattaya, except for a couple of intersections with police boxes, even the most basic traffic management is non-existent. There are methods to manage and control traffic, but unfortunately, Thais have very little clue, and / or willingness to do it right. Riding a motorbike around Pattaya is an "e-ticket" death sport experience.

A few years ago they were considering some type of rail system, but I believe the business community shut it down. A "loop" train with stops at major tourist points would be an interesting addition. Tough for the "mafia" to make any money from it, though, (except for construction contracts).

As it stands today, no matter what they do, if there are more vehicles (cars, motorbikes, tour buses, delivery trucks, baht buses, etc.), the traffic is only going to get worse, a lot worse!

Some Pattaya postcards:

Fon Tok, you are spot on regarding your observations regarding Thai logic. The Russians want Pattaya for their own playground. They have spiked real estate prices, and enjoy among other things. 90 day visas upon arrival. Guaranteed that in 10 years, Walking Street will be a strip of "beachfront" condos and overpriced hotels.

I agree it is going to be a mess! The new lane will be right up to the jogging path so the cement bench and coconut trees will still be there. I can see it now, more buses will now just stop on the left lane and sit. The songthaws now it take two lanes instead of one and that leaves the new lane in the end its gridlock like always.

Regarding the motorbikes, personally I think it is lot safer that driving a car around town. If you learn their habits and just let them past they will just fly by you and let them die.

LBM

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1250632]Some Pattaya postcards:[/QUOTE]Appreciate the pics. Really nice colors. The girl in the dark glasses is 6038222720_23a4df4bc3_z. Jpg has the cutest face I have seen a long time. :p Nice to see some faces.

Slim

[QUOTE=MrHeartbreak;1250443]By the next day, I was with a nice "non-working" girl and getting it for free. Which, of course, is even better. But I will not soon forget the experience of my first and only bar girl.[/QUOTE]"Nice","Non-working" girl in Pattaya. You have all the luck man. (and getting "it" for free). Even more luck!

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi; 1250170]I had now finally arrived at the agogos of Walking Street. My veritable Holy Grail. I had been waiting months for this. Soi 6 this afternoon was merely a preliminary to more satisfying and eventful concupiscent activities to come. I had two sexual interludes in the first fifteen hours that I was in Pattaya: One from Insomnia, which turned out to be one of the best women I would have on my trip and the latter woman obtained on Soi 6 who was average at best. I tried to get two more on Soi 6 before going to the agogos, but neither wanted to go back to my hotel instead opting only to do short time in the dilapidated rooms above the bar. I took a pass on that, especially due to the fact that I had the upper hand with the luxury hotel, the cash, and numerous beautiful women to choose from in the agogos on Walking Street. I did not have to relegate myself to negotiating with bar girls on Soi 6.

The question at hand is how well I would do on my first night in the agogos on Walking Street. Before arriving in Pattaya I did research on the agogos and learned that they would be far more expensive than freelancers and girls in beer bars. I had the finances and was willing to pay top dollar for top women who were both attractive, pleasant of demeanor and willing to satisfy sexually as well as be sexually satisfied. I had heard that the women in the agogos were quite commercial, which I did not mind per se, so long as they put out sexually, and could be somewhat selective and possessive of an attitude. The selectivity I could surmount on account of the fact that I was in the catbird seat being that I had hundreds of women to choose from in the agogos. My concern was the issue of time. The agogos would start to shut down at 3 pm and I was concerned about having my overtures for bar fines rejected by the more attractive women in the agogos during the early hours of opening as a result of them maximizing on their earnings from lady's drinks, thus closing a key window of opportunity for me to effectuate sexual liaisons between 8 pm and 12 am I was looking to average three to four women a night on this trip. If I could not effectuate any sexual liaisons between the hours of 8 to 12 pm then I would have a difficult time trying to hit that number, thus possibly even pushing me to relegate my hunt to the discos in the 11th hour, which I was adamant about not doing due to the attitudes of the women and the men in the discos. However, much to my surprise and to the contrary of what I had read in the forums about Pattaya, this would not be the case. In fact, they would be actually pushing me out the door, though not on account of my physical attractiveness or sexual expertise (it would not have mattered if I looked like Sir Lancelot and had the staying power of a male lion) , which I wanted it to be and of which exists in every mongers dreams, but rather solely on account of maximizing economic gain by attempting to effectuate multitudinous bar fines. The first agogo that I would go into would be Alcatraz. Previously, I was unable to get the two women I wanted from two different bars on Soi 6 to accompany me back to my hotel on account of the fact they wanted to do only short time in the dilapidated rooms in the bar. I would now see how I would fare in the agogos. As J. Edgar Hoover said, 'You either improve or you deteriorate. '[/QUOTE]You have effectuated one excellent report, that I will relegate to my cerebrum, once fully digested and then encapsulated in ionic magnificence. But dey do haves nice breastises.

[quote=rocksoff; 1212941]believe me, it's up to you how long it takes, certainly more than 3 minutes. and whether she takes off her clothes. and you can pay i think 400 more and do "other things" at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s also.

of course chemistry matters, i get better performance with some than with others. there's one particular psycho at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s who guides your hands to the back of her head and challenges you to make her gag.[/quote]i'll be in pattaya feb 1 to 9. do you know this girl's name and if she still works there? thank you in advance.

After RTFF on Thailand General, Cambodia General, Bangkok, Pattaya, Phnom Penh, and ROD threads from Jan 1 (whew) I have decided to take my first ever mongering trip to the LOS. I want to thank all members for the excellent information and advise in their posts and especially those who have taken the time to respond directly to my inqueries. (Bunky, Chill Out, Dreams, Duniawala, and Daddy07) I apoligise if I missed anyone.

I have gleaned a lot of good information from these posts and an looking forward to this trip with a lot less trepidation as a result.

Nevertheless, there are still a few areas that I am unclear on and I am hoping a few experienced members will help me out. Since I will be spending most of my time in Pattaya I decided to post my questions on this thread.

1. Are prepaid cell phones available in Thailand?

2. Are there any karaoke bars that cater to farangs? (With BGs of course)

3. I have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. Can anyone recommend a parlor in Pattaya for this treatment? (Preferrably with some kind of HE)

4. How can you identify the different types of bars (Gogos, Beer Bars, BJ Bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?

5. Family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time I had in LOS. Can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around Pattaya?

Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?

6. I hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until April. What can I expect in the April timeframe? (Weather, prices, etc.)

I will truly appreciate your help with these questions and any other advise you can offer an aging first-time mongerer.

GPa69

1. Are prepaid cell phones available in Thailand?

YES.

2. Are there any karaoke bars that cater to farangs? (With BGs of course)

Yes.

3. I have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. Can anyone recommend a parlor in Pattaya for this treatment? (Preferrably with some kind of HE)

When you get to Pattaya, WALK Around. You will see the Real massage places and you will see the MP where HE is available. Soi Honey great place to start.

4. How can you identify the different types of bars (Gogos, Beer Bars, BJ Bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?

General Gogos are enclose, BB are open, BJ bars are closed.

5. Family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time I had in LOS. Can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around Pattaya?

Buddha Hill, Koh Larn, Pattaya Waterpark, Floating MArket, Beaches. List is endless in LOS.

Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?

Have not stayed.

6. I hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until April. What can I expect in the April timeframe? (Weather, prices, etc.)

I am going in April for 30 day holiday. 3rd time in 8 months. April is Songkran month which is BIG BIG water Festival. If you don't want to get your hair wet. DON'T GO. YOU WIll get WET. Enjoy and if you go April PM me and we will share a beer or 2.

GPa69,

If you do intend to go in April, be prepared to get wet during the Songkran festival. I'd wrap any sensitive electronic devices in plastic bags if you're going to lug them around with you (cameras, phones, ect).

[quote=gpa69; 1251473]nevertheless, there are still a few areas that i am unclear on and i am hoping a few experienced members will help me out. since i will be spending most of my time in pattaya i decided to post my questions on this thread.

i will truly appreciate your help with these questions and any other advise you can offer an aging first-time mongerer.

gpa69[/quote]hi, here are my answers based on my experiences over the years in pattaya.

1. are prepaid cell phones available in thailand?

not sure but i've bought a thai sim pay as you go from the local 7-11 for 100 baht. it worked with no hassle in my mobile phone.

2. are there any karaoke bars that cater to farangs? (with bgs of course)

i've seen one on 2nd road, near the carlton pattaya hotel, opposite the alcatraz complex.

3. i have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. can anyone recommend a parlor in pattaya for this treatment? (preferrably with some kind of he)

many massgae parlours will have girls that can offer a happy ending. they seem to be close to walking st.

4. how can you identify the different types of bars (gogos, beer bars, bj bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?

beer bars are open air bars and are everywhere. gogo bars are all mainly in walking st, and have girls dancing inside. bj bars are at soi bukkao ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url])

5. family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time i had in los. can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around pattaya?

check the local tour guides. there is a trip to the zoo, and other things around there.

has anyone stayed at the secrets hotel at soi 14 and ws? it looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. recommendations, advise?

i stayed for 2 nights. highly recommended. nice rooms, good prices, and great location near the action, but still quiet in your room.

6. i hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until april. what can i expect in the april timeframe? (weather, prices, etc.)

april will be hot as usual. the water festival songran is celebrated for about a week during april. i loved playing it. check it out on youtube. prices were about the same for me, but i had a longterm room booking.

[quote=butter69; 1251532]4. how can you identify the different types of bars (gogos, beer bars, bj bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quich look around the interior?

beer bars are open air bars and are everywhere. gogo bars are all mainly in walking st, and have girls dancing inside. [b]bj bars are at soi bukkao ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]) [/b][/quote]not only in soi buakaow.

also in soi post office the "pumpstation", near end of the street on left side, coming from beach road.

and my favorite on 3rd road, near soi bonkot is "the bliss lounge". they also have a website ([url]www.theblisslounge.com[/url])

[QUOTE=Butter69; 1251532]Hi, here are my answers based on my experiences over the years in Pattaya.

Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?

I stayed for 2 nights. Highly recommended. Nice rooms, good prices, and great location near the action, but still quiet in your room.

6. I hope to go next month, but might not be able to make it until April. What can I expect in the April timeframe? (Weather, prices, etc.)

April will be hot as usual. The water festival songran is celebrated for about a week during April. I loved playing it. Check it out on youtube. Prices were about the same for me, but I had a longterm room booking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advise Butter. Secrets it is.

The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?

[QUOTE=GPa69; 1251757]Thanks for the advise Butter. Secrets it is.

The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?[/QUOTE]To GPa 69.

There are alot more people at Walking st area at night than during the day, after mid night the crowd get bigger heading to the disco for pick up alot of crazy people on drug and too much to drink you will be lucky drench with water not something else, don't go to Thailand during songkran if you don't want to get wet and dirty.

Fast Eddie 48

sweet story! i remember when i discovered soi6! i've been there many times since. 1000 baht plus 300 bar fine is pretty standard asking price, you could have had her for 700 plus 300.that's what they expect to get!

there is no need to tip 500 for only 1hour of fun. again, you could have easily find some girl on the beach road for 500 total!

if you think you found a freebie in patts, you are my friend mistaken. it's the long con as they say it.

[quote=mrheartbreak; 1250443]just checked out this forum, and after having spent my first night in pattaya, thought i would file a report.

i actually had met a girl online and was going to hook up with her in pattaya, as she lives there, but she was not available that day or night. hmmm. so i had to spend my first night in pattaya, alone, on valentine's day. not a good idea.

soooo, i hit the streets to check out the scene, with no real intention of actually getting a girl. i had read online about the pattaya go-go and beer bar scenes, but nothing really prepares you for it.

still, i knew about soi 6, and decided that was the place to go to check out the action. i took a motorbike ride there, and started to walk up and down soi 6 and an adjacent street. at first, i thought i would do nothing, but i was still tired and sore from jet lag and the bus ride from bangkok, so i elected to take someone up on their offer of a massage. actually, i ignored the fat, ugly woman who had called out to me, in favor of a tall, slender girl with a nice body and bad teeth. she gave me a great massage with the obligatory happy ending, and i figured that would satisfy me until at least the next day.

but once i was back on the street, i realized it was too early, and i wasn't ready to go back to the hotel just yet. i walked by a few beer bars, and was actually drawn to the pool tables. i stuck around for a while and played pool with a couple of girls. pretty cool, as there was no pressure to buy them drinks. they were dressed in street clothes, so i really had no idea what their actual jobs were.

meanwhile, the bar next door had about six or seven girls in little black dresses hanging around, clearly waiting for work. one of them was about five feet tall, slender and very cute. much cuter than the other girls. so when i had initially passed her, i had thought "i may have to come back here later." she was still there while i played pool next door, but i assumed she would get snapped up soon by a horny farang.

to my surprise, she was still there when i left the pool bar and walked outside. seeing her for the third time was just too much temptation for me, so i went right up to her and said hi and offered to buy her a lady drink. we played a game of pool, and by the end of it, i was thinking i would be ready to pop again, especially with a girl like this, so why not take her back to the hotel? we left in a tuk tuk, and for 1000 baht and a 300 baht bar fine, i had a spinner on my hands. she took the standard shower first, and then i took mine, keeping my shorts, wallet and passport with me at all times (i am not that much of a trusting soul). when i came out of the shower, she was sitting there waiting for me on the bed with her towel still wrapped around her like a shy high school girl. nice. i sat down next to her, a little surprised by the passivity. i said, 'what do you want to do first? ' and she said (drum roll). what else?"up to you." ah, thailand. you can totally understand how these guys "lose the plot" and fall for a bar girl.

well, i peeled off the towel and saw the nicest little pancake breasts with perfect brown nipples i had ever seen in real life. i peeled the towel down further to reveal her shaven pussy, and then it was off to the races. i had my own condoms, having read that the thai condoms are rather small, and i slammed her in multiple positions for a good forty-five minutes or so: missionary, doggy, and a nice variation on missionary i like to call 'legs over your head, ' which seems to tighten up even the tightest girls. this one was pretty tight, especially considering what she does for a living.

finally, i decided to just take off the condom and shoot it all over her chest and abdomen. she was so petite that my load covered almost her entire torso. i gave her an extra 500 baht as a tip and meandered over to the local 7-11 with her, where we bought some cold drinks before she was on her way. by then, it was pretty late, and i doubted she would get another customer at that hour, so i had no problems giving her a big tip. all in all, it was about 65 bucks american, including the bar fine, which is pretty cheap. and she said she was 26, but she looked about 18 (or less) , so i really could not have asked for more.

by the next day, i was with a nice "non-working" girl and getting it for free. which, of course, is even better. but i will not soon forget the experience of my first and only bar girl.[/quote]

I was at Pattaya 26 Jan at Tropical hotel. There is a lane next to international hospital where you can find hundreeds of girl awaiting in bars and brothels. Usually cost you 500bath bar fine. 500++ gor the girl and 500++ for hotel chart.

Good luck safe travel

[QUOTE=Clap Trap; 688171]Dude! What do think I mean? Girl+barfine+drinks+drinks at other bars before you finally find the girl you want=2000-3000 baht.

Sorry If I'm not being as clear.

Peace.[/QUOTE]My experience bar fine 500, girl 500++, hotel chart 500++ if you choose to FS at the girls' brothel then don't have to pay hotel chart it is more comforftable at your hottel for that 1 hour.

Hven tried luxury massage some one have a report? I saw a massage shop with young cute girl (17-18 I guess) chatting in the front but don't remember the name of the street just remember it is japanese name.

[QUOTE=Clap Trap; 688171]Dude! What do think I mean? Girl+barfine+drinks+drinks at other bars before you finally find the girl you want=2000-3000 baht.

Sorry If I'm not being as clear.

Peace.[/QUOTE]I was at tropical hotel. There this a street next to the hotel with 100s girl. Bar fine 500, girl 500++/1hour, hotel chart 600

[QUOTE=MrHeartbreak;1250443]Just checked out this forum, and after having spent my first night in Pattaya, thought I would file a report.[/QUOTE]Well done! Thanks for taking the time to post.

Welcome to the board.

Bunky

Are prepaid cell phones available in Thailand?

You need an unlocked GSM cell phone *PLUS* a SIM card for one of the Thailand carriers. (They all work pretty much the same in Pattaya. There may be differences in coverage out in the sticks.)

You can buy both on the Bay of E before your trip. The advantage in doing so is that you'll know your phone number in advance and you can give it to people who might want to call you. It also makes it easier to hook up with the taxi driver you booked in advance at the airport in Bangkok.

Usually the SIM card comes preloaded with a few hundred baht in credit. To add more, step into any 7-11 and buy a "top up card" for whatever cell phone carrier you have. Once you have the top up card you key a long sequence of numbers into your phone and hit send. Presto! Your credit is topped up.

If you're cheap you can save a few baht by waiting to purchase your cell phone until you arrive in Pattaya. Go to Tukcom, which is on the south side of South Pattaya Road, just west of the intersection with Soi Buakaow. There are literally dozens of vendors selling every conceivable type of cell phone.

How can you identify the different types of bars (Gogos, Beer Bars, BJ Bars, etc.) from the outside or from a quick look around the interior?

Beer bars are casual places, open to the street. There is a roof, but no air conditioning. As you walk by on the street you can see inside and check out the girls. If you fancy one, stop in for a drink, a game or whatever. Even if you're not looking for a girl, beer bars are great places to pass the time, watching the world go by or having a drink and a laugh with your mates. If you're hungry, but some noodles from a roving vendor and dig in.

Go-gos are much like strip clubs in the United States. They are indoor affairs with air conditioning where the girls dance on elevated stages. Some also feature jacuzzi shows, shower shows, etc. Most go-gos are on Walking Street and the side streets than run off Walking Street. But there are also several good ones on Soi LK Metro. Blowjob bars are less common. If you search the forum you'll learn their names.

Family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time I had in LOS. Can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around Pattaya?

Boat trip to Koh Larn Island. Nooch Gardens. Karting track south of Walking Street. Any of the championship golf courses that are only a few miles away. You should also check out the markets in Pattaya, where you can take photos of colorful locals selling just about anything. There is a cool night market on the west side of Soi Buakaow, about halfway between Soi Honey on the south and Central Pattaya Road on the north. In addition to all the trinkets for sale they have numerous food stalls selling all kinds of yummy chow for dirt cheap. There's nothing like having a cheap dinner with the working girls before a night out on the town.

Has anyone stayed at the Secrets hotel at Soi 14 and WS? It looks pretty good and reasonable from the website. Recommendations, advise?

Secrets has a loyal fan base, and lots of guys enjoy staying close to Walking Street. But there are other centers of gravity for adult fun in Pattaya, namely the go-gos on Soi LK Metro, the beer bars on Sois 7 & 8 between Beach Road and Second Road and the incomparable scene on Soi Six. So for my money central Pattaya is the best place to stay. There are numerous places to stay in that part of town, ranging from guest houses that offer great value for money to luxe properties where you can live the life of the Two Week Millionaire. If you give us some idea of your budget we could recommend specific places.

Bunky

[QUOTE=GPa69; 1251757]Thanks for the advise Butter. Secrets it is.

The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?[/QUOTE]Songrkan is an experience.

The water goes on from midnight and carries on till the next night, fading a bit as the night progress. In some places it is a 3-day action, figure out.

Put your walleet or money in a plasticg bag well wrapped, wear essential clothing, you will more wet than after a plunge in the pool.

Beware of some ice water (the barrel is filled with water that is chilled with a bag of ice cubes)

Don't freak out if they paste (wet) white or red powder on your face or exposed skin, it is part of the game.

[QUOTE=GPa69;1251757]The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?[/QUOTE]When the festival begins, everyone normally plays from 12-6pm. But you may still get the occasional person trying to spray someone after 6pm. The craziest day is the last day.

The night before the final day, no-one and nowhere is safe at any time.

I remember ducking and diving around so many people while I was on my way to the disco in walking st. Then when walking back with a girl to my hotel, we were trying everything we could to avoid getting heavily sprayed.

But I enjoyed every day. It was loads of fun. Get a motorbike taxi, and have a cruise around all the sois, during songkran, and watch all the bar girls going crazy, and trying to spray you. The water feels really nice in the hot sun, like having a hot shower outdoors. Unless they have put ice into the barrels.

The craziest place was the last day, when I saw someone using a big hose pipe connected to the water hydrant, to spray everyone. LOL, (same as what firemen use)

As for the girls, they will always be happy to take care of you at any time. But i never tried during the daytime while playing songkran.

[QUOTE=ThreeEyelids; 1251960]My experience bar fine 500, girl 500++, hotel chart 500++ if you choose to FS at the girls' brothel then don't have to pay hotel chart it is more comforftable at your hottel for that 1 hour.

Hven tried luxury massage some one have a report? I saw a massage shop with young cute girl (17-18 I guess) chatting in the front but don't remember the name of the street just remember it is japanese name.[/QUOTE]You realize you're responding to a post he wrote over six years ago?

I was there last year, didn't mind the daytime stuff, but when "fuckwit farangs" want to carry on over dark, then it's a bit too much. Nothing worse than walking around in wet clothes and visiting air con bars. My trip in Mar-Apr this year is bypassing Thailand when it's on. Also Pattaya seems to hold it for more days than other parts of the country.

[QUOTE=GPa69;1251757]The songkran festival sounds like a blast. I hope my trip timing works out so I can be there for it. Does the water battle go on all night or does it taper off after dark? Do the girls still take care of business or are they having too much fun drenching customers and each other?[/QUOTE]Songkran is a blast! It is something that everyone should experience at least once in their lifetime. On the last day, Beach Road is shut down to traffic and the water fighting goes from one end to another. There are bands setup all along the beach side as well.

My best advice for the last day is to buy some water shoes, with decent soles. Because if you are out there all day enjoying the festival, your feet will suffer, at least mine did.

As mentioned, avoid the water barrels with the ice water. I got blasted in the chest a couple of times, and each time I swore that my heart stopped for a few seconds. And get the biggest squirt gun available. There will be stands through Pattaya that will sell them.

Bunky you the man. Many thanks for the terrific detailed response to my questions. If I ever happen to run into you in LOS I will owe you a drink or 7.

I will probably pick up a phone at Tukcom as you suggested since I should be into the airport in time to catch the Bell Tracel bus to Pattaya and won't need to contact a taxi. Do you know an approximate price for the phone and SIM in Pattaya?

I'm hoping to spend 8 days in LOS for between $1000. 1500 US. From what I've read in this forum that should be doable, but if I go a little over-buget it won't break the bank. So I guess that means I should be loking for a hotel in the 800. 1200 baht range. Although I am not opposed to paying less if the place is clean, GF, has in-room safe and internet, and has enough room that 2 people can pass each other without turning sideways. Recommendations appreciated.

Bionicman, Butter69, and Tomjackin thanks for the great descriptions and tips for Songkran. Whether it fits my schedule or not is out of my control since my company is springing for the US. Tokyo leg of the trip. But if I am lucky enough to be there during the festival I intend to enjoy it to the fullest. The motorbike taxi ride sounds like a great idea. In fact I may do that even if I miss the festival just to familiarize myself with the various mongering areas in the city.

Thanks all for the friendly help and avdise.

[quote=butzelmann; 1251662]not only in soi buakaow.

also in soi post office the "pumpstation", near end of the street on left side, coming from beach road.

and my favorite on 3rd road, near soi bonkot is "the bliss lounge". they also have a website (

[url]www.theblisslounge.com[/url][/quote]to butzelmann

i was in pattaya few week ago visit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] this place is going down hill fast from six month ago all my favorite girl is gone, only one customer playing pool when i got there around 6pm so i head over to bliss lounge my first time there 6 girl avalible again no customer pick a cute one but bbbj is not as good as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and no fs is offer the room is larger and bed is avalible 600 bht for bj.

100 bht cheaper than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url].

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1252102]Songkran is a blast! .[/QUOTE]Should be blasted off the face of the earth.

Are you mongers or kids?

[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1252261]Should be blasted off the face of the earth.

Are you mongers or kids?[/QUOTE]As the guy said: good to be experienced once.

But nothing more than that.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1252277]As the guy said: good to be experienced once.

But nothing more than that.[/QUOTE]Bionicman,

Not everyone is going to like Songkran if was kind of fun until you get hit in the face by some white paste, most Thai people don. T go crazy like the drunk farang.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=GPa69;1251473]3. I have read in other forums that a genuine thai massage by a trained professional is a must do experience. Can anyone recommend a parlor in Pattaya for this treatment? (Preferrably with some kind of HE)[/quote]-most really good, professionally trained massage providers will not do HE, it is to avoid that that they went into training in the first place. Some might disagree. I like to keep both separate. You can get a decent massage with HE, no doubt. A really good one though, that's harder.

[quote]5. Family and friends will want to see pictures of the wonderful time I had in LOS. Can anyone recommend some easy to reach tourist attractions in and around Pattaya?[/quote]-if you want to hide your activities, I would not say that you went to Pattaya. Many people know of Thailand as a big mongering destination, and might be suspicious already. Anyone who googles "Pattaya" will have little doubt as to what you did there. Why not tell your friends you are tired and just want a relaxing time at the beach and to do as little as possible? Then you can get away with showing no pics except some beach pics. Say you went to an island. Do not mention Pattaya.

[quote]I will truly appreciate your help with these questions and any other advise you can offer an aging first-time mongerer.[/quote]-I don't think I need to mention that as you seem to be a good bloke, but, be nice to the girls. They have a tough job. Don't let them take advantage of you either, but be nice.

-The best way to learn is through someone who knows the place already. Find someone through this forum or just talk to someone who looks nice to you and who is sitting in the same bar as you. Buy a round of drinks and start hanging out with him. For the cost of a couple of beers over 3 days, you'll learn all you need.

-Do not fall in love just yet. I happen to think that it's not necessarily a bad idea for an old man to fall in love with a nice thai girl (one who is 40, not 21) who can take care of him in his old days; just do not fall in love in your first week or on your first trip. Get a feeling for how this works first. Do not stay with the same girl your whole trip.

[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1252261]Are you mongers or kids?[/QUOTE]Imagine, if you could, a day filled with soaked down, half drunk (some fully) , half naked Thai girls all over the place.

Yep, I'm truly a fucking kid!

Can anyone recommend a good tailor in Pattaya? I'm visiting next month and looking to get a suit while I'm there.

[quote=fast eddie 48; 1252166]to butzelmann

i was in pattaya few week ago visit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] this place is going down hill fast from six month ago all my favorite girl is gone, only one customer playing pool when i got there around 6pm so i head over to bliss lounge my first time there 6 girl avalible again no customer pick a cute one but bbbj is not as good as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and no fs is offer the room is larger and bed is avalible 600 bht for bj.

100 bht cheaper than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url].

fast eddie 48[/quote]i have never been to a bj bar but would like to try it on my next trip. sorry for a couple very basic questions & thank you in advance for answers. i ususly take a very long time to finish from only bj. first, do the girls expect you to finish in a few minutes or do they really work it for a long time like 15 or 30 minutes? second, any recommendations on who to choose and where. i understand that it is all a matter of preference but i'm hoping to choose someone more patient & skilled. thanks again for your help.

What I'd like to do is fuck with a couple for double penetration. Any bars which provide this service? If not, where to find such a couple?

[QUOTE=Rafiki89;1252420]Can anyone recommend a good tailor in Pattaya? I'm visiting next month and looking to get a suit while I'm there.[/QUOTE]I know you ask for patty, but in BKK is the tailor named pinky. Easily one of the best in the country.

[url]http://www.pinkytaylor.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Kadol;1252613]What I'd like to do is fuck with a couple for double penetration. Any bars which provide this service? If not, where to find such a couple?[/QUOTE]So you want your cock in an ass while other dude has cock in her pussy all at same time. Is that what you want?

e=sushilover808; 1252564]i have never been to a bj bar.



[/quote]they really will work it till you cum at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. i have gone for almost 30 minutes before. i have never heard of them stopping prior. i asked the older lady manager with glasses at bkk [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and she said the girls are told not to stop till you cum. she also told me the record there was almost one hour. i had a bad experience at the pump station last month. after a short time she starts with hand job. i have never had that happen at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s so that is my suggestion. also, you pay after, so when you get in the room with the girl and you want her to take all her clothes off so you can suck tit and put finger in pussy, ask the girl before bj. if she says no, ask her who will. i have done this and gotten another girl.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1252564]I have never been to a BJ Bar but would like to try it on my next trip. Sorry for a couple very basic questions & thank you in advance for answers. I ususly take a very long time to finish from only BJ. First, do the girls expect you to finish in a few minutes or do they really work it for a long time like 15 or 30 minutes? Second, any recommendations on who to choose and where. I understand that it is all a matter of preference but I'm hoping to choose someone more patient & skilled. Thanks again for your help.[/QUOTE]To Sushilover808

Everyone is different I also have a hard to coming on BBBJ but it also depend on the girl skill, I have last up to 20 min before finishing most girl here also offer FS also if BBBJ don't get it done for a extra 300 bht more go for FS, if you last more than 30 min you better tip the poor girl a extra 300 bht, I have a regular Bee she been a superstar there for a long time but she is no longer there last time I was there, she is a very cute girl only BBBJ the first few time but she finally offer me FS last yr because she broke up with her Farand boyfriend.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Kadol;1252613]What I'd like to do is fuck with a couple for double penetration. Any bars which provide this service? If not, where to find such a couple?[/QUOTE]To Kadol.

I don't why you like to fuck a girl with someone else don't think I can get off on this, I am a one on one guy myself don't like to share with no one.

Just my pov

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=HiyakeDome; 1252634]I know you ask for patty, but in BKK is the tailor named pinky. Easily one of the best in the country.

[url]http://www.pinkytaylor.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I have been visitting and buying clothes from Pinkya, and he is a totally ripoff. He told me that all the shirts I ordered was made of the finest material (high quality pure cotton) and would cost me more than 300 euro at home. The cutting and fit was just as I wanted it, but my tailor back home told me it all was very cheap mixed cotton and polyester material.

He even tried to sell me a shirt made of the "finest material" for 16000 baht each! :-D

[QUOTE=Tommyh80; 1252747]I have been visitting and buying clothes from Pinkya, and he is a totally ripoff. He told me that all the shirts I ordered was made of the finest material (high quality pure cotton) and would cost me more than 300 euro at home. The cutting and fit was just as I wanted it, but my tailor back home told me it all was very cheap mixed cotton and polyester material.

He even tried to sell me a shirt made of the "finest material" for 16000 baht each! :-D[/QUOTE]The material is the usual trick they use. There is always lots of polyester and that makes you stink after short. (and that is also cheaper, to them)

Does anyone here remember a BJ bar in Pattaya known as "Garfield Bar" around circa 1990? If you do, would be keen to hear any info on it, what it was like, the girls, the owner, the clientele, the quality, whether it is still there now or called something else etc.

Thanks

edit: btw I'm definitely talking about Pattaya. I understand there is another bar by this name in Philipines but this is not the one I'm referring to :)

[QUOTE=Tommyh80; 1252747]I have been visitting and buying clothes from Pinkya, and he is a totally ripoff. He told me that all the shirts I ordered was made of the finest material (high quality pure cotton) and would cost me more than 300 euro at home. The cutting and fit was just as I wanted it, but my tailor back home told me it all was very cheap mixed cotton and polyester material.

He even tried to sell me a shirt made of the "finest material" for 16000 baht each! :-D[/QUOTE]Tommy I think you are mixed up on something if you are saying someone told you a cotton shirt would cost 300 euro somewhere and they tried to sell you a shirt for 16000 baht (US $526). My tailor in Pattaya charges 500 baht for quality shirts. A suit should be made of wool. You can test the material by cutting a piece and seeing how it burns.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb4tCcnA6jo[/url]

Perform the Burn Test (from [url]http://quilting.about.com/od/fabricembellishment/a/burn_test.htm[/url])

Cut small swatches of each fabric you want to test. Two-inch squares are fine.

Place a swatch in your fireproof container and ignite a corner of the fabric.

Pay attention to the odor of the smoke.

-Cotton smells like burning paper.

-An odor similar to burning hair or feathers indicates wool or silk fibers, but silk doesn't always burn as easily as wool.

-A darkish plume of smoke that smells like chemicals or burning plastic probably means the fabric is a cotton / polyester blend.

[QUOTE=HiyakeDome; 1252634]I know you ask for patty, but in BKK is the tailor named pinky. Easily one of the best in the country.

[url]http://www.pinkytaylor.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Good one mate

Its a website about a waterskiing guy in South Africa called Mr. Taylor; Pinky Taylor.

LOL, good one.

- Dress Shirt B 700 ($23)

- Slacks B 1, 250 ($41)

- Blazer / Sport Coat B $3, 000 ($99)

- Suit (really 1 pair of Slacks + 1 Blazer) B 4, 250 ($140)

To custom make the suit takes 1 measurement and 2 – 3 fittings.

For future orders: Once Nini has your measurements recorded they can make your order and mail it to you internationally.

Price is the same regardless of which fabric you pick from their extensive selection (fabric from England, fabric from Italy woven in Thailand, fabric from Thailand, etc). My friend and I got stuff made there in Oct 2011 and were pretty happy. We plan on getting more stuff in May 2012.

[quote=luvpuss;1252686]e=sushilover808; 1252564]i have never been to a bj bar.



they really will work it till you cum at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. i have gone for almost 30 minutes before. i have never heard of them stopping prior. i asked the older lady manager with glasses at bkk [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and she said the girls are told not to stop till you cum. she also told me the record there was almost one hour. i had a bad experience at the pump station last month. after a short time she starts with hand job. i have never had that happen at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s so that is my suggestion. also, you pay after, so when you get in the room with the girl and you want her to take all her clothes off so you can suck tit and put finger in pussy, ask the girl before bj. if she says no, ask her who will. i have done this and gotten another girl.[/quote]


thank you very much for your reply. then i will go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s as soon as i arrive in pattaya! which should be in about 40 hours, late thursday night. any specific service providers (name) that you recommend? what is a nice tip for good service? 100 baht or more? i don't want to ruin the economy. http://www.lolitapattaya.com/

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1252803]Any specific service providers (name) that you recommend? What is a nice tip for good service? 100 baht or more? I don't want to ruin the economy.[/QUOTE]Provider, it's really up to you. One man's poison. I seldom tip, but when I find a good one I stick with her. I'm always welcomed happily when I show up, never had bad service from one like that. (I would not repeat if I did not get good service.)

[quote=sushilover808;1252803]thank you very much for your reply. then i will go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s as soon as i arrive in pattaya! which should be in about 40 hours, late thursday night. any specific service providers (name) that you recommend? what is a nice tip for good service? 100 baht or more? i don't want to ruin the economy. http://www.lolitapattaya.com/[/quote]i don't remember names, sorry. the last time i was there (last month) there were about 8 girls out front. i picked the cutiest one. she was about 30, thin, with the best smile of all the girls. the price is set at 700, so you would not be ruining anything. i leave 200 if the performance is good. they suck dick for a living, a 6 dollar tip won't kill me.

[quote=sushilover808;1252803]thank you very much for your reply. then i will go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s as soon as i arrive in pattaya! which should be in about 40 hours, late thursday night. any specific service providers (name) that you recommend? what is a nice tip for good service? 100 baht or more? i don't want to ruin the economy. http://www.lolitapattaya.com/[/quote]to sushilover,

just ask the manager which girl is the superstar with good skill, but when i was there a few week ago all the girl avalible is new didn't see any girl that i know in the past bee and rose are the superstar but no longer there, tipping is up to you depend on the service you get bbbj is only 700 bht.

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1252770]Tommy I think you are mixed up on something if you are saying someone told you a cotton shirt would cost 300 euro somewhere and they tried to sell you a shirt for 16000 baht (US $526). My tailor in Pattaya charges 500 baht for quality shirts. A suit should be made of wool. You can test the material by cutting a piece and seeing how it burns.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb4tCcnA6jo[/url]

Perform the Burn Test (from.

[url]http://quilting.about.com/od/fabricembellishment/a/burn_test.htm[/url]

)

Cut small swatches of each fabric you want to test. Two-inch squares are fine.

Place a swatch in your fireproof container and ignite a corner of the fabric.

Pay attention to the odor of the smoke.

-Cotton smells like burning paper.

-An odor similar to burning hair or feathers indicates wool or silk fibers, but silk doesn't always burn as easily as wool.

-A darkish plume of smoke that smells like chemicals or burning plastic probably means the fabric is a cotton / polyester blend.[/QUOTE]Pinky, the indian tailor told me his shirts could be easily sold for 300 euro back home in one of the department stores. The truth is that he is ripping you off selling you shirts made of low quality material

[QUOTE=Tommyh80;1253097]Pinky, the indian tailor told me his shirts could be easily sold for 300 euro back home in one of the department stores. The truth is that he is ripping you off selling you shirts made of low quality material[/QUOTE]Why is he selling them so cheap in Thailand instead of making the deal of the century and sell them for a higher prices to a dept store?

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1252755]Does anyone here remember a BJ bar in Pattaya known as "Garfield Bar" around circa 1990? If you do, would be keen to hear any info on it, what it was like, the girls, the owner, the clientele, the quality, whether it is still there now or called something else etc.

Thanks.

Edit: BTW I'm definitely talking about Pattaya. I understand there is another bar by this name in Philipines but this is not the one I'm referring to.[/QUOTE]To Cock sure

I been going to Pattaya every yr since 1995 never heard of this place, I don't know who the hell will remembered name of a bar 20 yr ago, at Angeles city PI there is Santo st local called it the Blow row with row of Blow job bar 500 peso for BJ inhouse or ST take out for 700 peso for low quality girl.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1252755]Does anyone here remember a BJ bar in Pattaya known as "Garfield Bar" around circa 1990? If you do, would be keen to hear any info on it, what it was like, the girls, the owner, the clientele, the quality, whether it is still there now or called something else etc.

Thanks.

Edit: BTW I'm definitely talking about Pattaya. I understand there is another bar by this name in Philipines but this is not the one I'm referring to.[/QUOTE]Try this link;

[url]http://www.farangfriendly.com/chonburi/bang-lamung/bars-beer-girls/garfield-bar-pattaya-beach-road[/url]

Not sure how recent the info is.

Tuck

If governments would just wise up enough to decriminalize the recreational use of substances, they could eliminate 80% of their crime problems.

Drug laws cause more harm to human beings than drugs, and this proves it.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/03/01/police-raid-pattaya-jail-find-drugs-weapons-female-inmates-feeding-babies/[/url]

When I visited Thailand some years back, I did some research on tailors and ended up using two. I actually took the bus from Pattaya to BKK to get fitted.

I used Rajawonse and Boss Avenue tailors and I was very happy with the end result. Rajawonse services US embassy clients and has a fixed prices at 12K Bhat for a suit but they are highly recommended. Boss Avenue tailor are two younger guys across the street from the JW Marriott. I had to insist on top quality fabric and they too produced a very high quality suit and jacket.

Update...Boss Avenue moved to Soi 7 and here is a link from CNN on Best Bangkok tailors

http://www.cnngo.com/bangkok/shop/5-best-bangkok-tailors-218990

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1250773]"Nice","Non-working" girl in Pattaya. You have all the luck man. (and getting "it" for free). Even more luck![/QUOTE]I set up a meeting with a girl who I had been chatting with online. She was actually in North Thailand, so I had to get out of PTT to meet up with her. It was a great vacation.

Based on my experience, I can safely recommend getting a bar girl to clear out the baby batter (and clear your head. Heh heh) before hooking up with a nice girl. This one is a keeper.

[QUOTE=Start123; 1251915]Sweet story! I remember when I discovered soi6! I've been there many times since. 1000 baht plus 300 bar fine is pretty standard asking price, you could have had her for 700 plus 300. That's what they expect to get!

There is no need to tip 500 for only 1hour of fun. Again, you could have easily find some girl on the beach road for 500 total!

If you think you found a freebie in Patts, you are my friend mistaken. It's the long con as they say it.[/QUOTE]No, the "freebie" was a girl I cultivated over a period of a month or so online. She is from North Thailand. Nice girl, has a real job, etc.

I tried responding to a couple posts using the quote function, but can't seem to make it work.

On the girl I picked up in PTT. She was definitely a bar girl. On the girl I got with after that: she was a girl from North Thailand who I had been chatting with online for some time before I got to Thailand. I had to go to BKK to meet up with her, as she took a bus down to meet me. Nice girl, has a real job, etc. Girlfriend material, definitely NOT the "long con". But thanks for the warning!

[QUOTE=GPa69]I will probably pick up a phone at Tukcom since I should be into the airport in time to catch the Bell Travel bus to Pattaya and won't need to contact a taxi. Do you know an approximate price for the phone and SIM in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]You can pay as little as 700-800 baht for a bare bones phone. From there the sky is the limit. The cost of the SIM card will vary depending on how much time comes preloaded. I can't recall what I paid the last time, but it was roughly 300-500 baht. I'm sure others who spend more time shopping at Tukcom than I do can weigh in. But for the phone and the card together figure 1000-1300 for the cheapest option, more if you want a fancier phone. Don't forget that as you use the phone you'll need to "recharge" it by purchasing a top off card. If you are frequently calling internationally that can add up. If you just need a phone for occasional use it won't cost very much.

As for lodging in the 1200 baht per night range, that's very doable. Especially off season. Consider the LK Renaissance and the Pattaya Bay Resort. Both are in central Pattaya, right in the center of just about everywhere you'd want to go. I think 800 baht is also possible, but at that price point you'll have to look a little harder and consider staying in a guest house or smaller property slightly off the beaten path, say along Soi LK Metro or Soi Buakaow.

The motorbike taxis are convenient, but I'm not very comfortable with them and I rarely use them. If you want to get the lay of the land just take a loop or two on the baht buses. They run south on Beach Road and north on Second Road, and east / west at the south and north ends of town. It sounds more complicated that it is. Just get a map and look at the streets. The touristy parts of Pattya are VERY close together. You can easily walk just about everywhere.

Bunky.

Bunky

[quote=fast eddie 48; 1252846]to sushilover,

just ask the manager which girl is the superstar with good skill, but when i was there a few week ago all the girl avalible is new didn't see any girl that i know in the past bee and rose are the superstar but no longer there, tipping is up to you depend on the service you get bbbj is only 700 bht.

fast eddie 48[/quote]i arrived in pattaya very last night. airport immigration was a nightmare probably close to 45 minutes wait. the mr. t driver was waiting and we arrived in pattaya in about 70 minutes at speeds up to 150 km / hr. i'm staying at the green hotel next to central festival shopping mall. it is ok at 900 baht per night because of its good location but no wi-fi. i'm changing to sa apartment guest house on soi yamato for only 400 baht per night tomorrow. private room with private bath with free wi-fi. definitely for the budget minded but not recommended for most!

it was a little late to go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s last night but a short walk along beach road found me two girls. i will report on that with pictures soon. i'm off to lunch now.

please pm if anyone want to meet for drinks tonight.

I met Sa, a 26 year old spinner who asked for 1k baht for st anal at about 1 am on Beach Road accross Mike Shopping Mall. I was a little tired & feeling generous so I didn't try to talk her down. She provided great BBBJ & rode me cowboy to her own completion. Then I was ready to fuck her ass HARD. After less than 1 min, she stopped me saying "pain, you too big!" I told her, no ass = no 1k baht only 500 baht. She reluctantly agreed. I fucked her in a few positions & sent her on her way without any tip. No CIM / COF. I would repeat because she was great on top. She said she would try anal again in the future so I got her number. PM if you want her number.

Sushilover808:

Sa perfect photos of pussy + asshole THANKS john

I was still horny for some anal action but went I went back out at about 2:30 there was almost nobody out on Beach Road. I found Bee, a 40 year old very slim lady who said she likes being fucked in the ass. I had to put that to the test for 500 baht. She moaned & groaned but was able to take over 1/2 hour of 2 hole back & forth pounding in the pussy & ass. She had a nice body for being 40 but not recommended except as a last resort or unless you like older women.

[QUOTE=John Auro; 1253626]Sushilover808:

Sa perfect photos of pussy + asshole THANKS[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention that she has a 6 year old child. The bonus is that Sa is still lactating a little. A few drops came out of her nipples when she was riding me.

I found Em, a 22 year old spinner who asked for 800 baht for st anal at about 11 pm on Beach Road accross Mike Shopping Mall. After last night's failure, I tried to make sure that she was ok with anal by repeating what I asked for,"fuck ass & pictures for 800baht, ok?" She agreed again. She provided good BBBJ & rode me reverse cowgirl. I noticed that she had an extremely tiny asshole, like smaller than my pinky. That was about to change!

She lubed up & her ass & I started to fuck her ass. After a couple minutes she stopped saying I was too rough with her ass. I said ok then finish pussy. She said no & started to get dressed. What would you do? How much would you pay to get her out of the hotel room quietly?

She asked for 400 baht. I was pissed. I paid 200 & got dressed to go hunting again. Crap!

After that fiasco, I was back out and talking to another girl. She said "my friend fuck ass but she want more money". I met her friend, Cat, who seemed a little shy and quiet. I was extremely cautious this time because I didn't want to get burned again. I explained to Cat what just happened and she assured me that she could fuck ass, no problem but wanted 1k baht. I think I should have talked her down to 800 but I thought WTF, if it's worth it!

Back at my place Cat asked for a beer from the mini-bar. I said sure! After a shower she gave great BBBJ for about 20min almost deep throating me all the way with saliva dripping down my balls. She then rode me reverse cowgirl. After a few minutes, I asked if she was ready & she lubed up & mounted me with her ass. She said "better you fuck my ass" so for the next 10 minutes or so I did her doggie position back & forth in her ass & pussy. I flipped her over on her back for a lot more two hole action. I asked for CIM & she said, "ok, you give me tip". I said SURE as I was having a great time!

She didn't just do ATM CIM but she played with my cum with her tongue, blowing bubbles. I was so horny that I fucked her ass more & more. No complaints but she said,"I hope you give me big tip!" I was still hard from this great performance so I fucked her ass and pussy A LOT MORE for a long time but could not finish a second time. She sucked my dick a little and asked if I wanted anything else. Fantastic!

After her shower, she gave me her number & asked "500 tip ok?" I said "no, I tip you 1000." (I gave her 2000 baht for almost 3 hours) She got on her knees & sucked me a little more and said, "you call me again, ok?"

It was a Superstar PSE, but her body was a little used up, perhaps it could just be the premature againg from her profession. . She said she was 25 but I think she was older. I really don't know but I want to see her again. As always, I'm happy to share her number.

As season is on and some of you guys still might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal revised rating based on :

1. Atmosphere and Service 40, 2. Quality of Dancers 40, 3. Prices 20.

Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2012.

*

Airport.

Baccara.

Diamond.

What's up?

*

Baby Dolls.

Fahrenheit.

Happy.

Living Dolls Showcase.

Peppermint.

Super baby.

TQ 1.

*

Alcatraz.

Champagne.

Dollhouse.

Oasis.

Super Girl.

Sweethearts.

*

Champion.

Sapphire.

Toyz.

*

Iron Club.

Helo.

Moon Club.

Shark.

Spanky's.

Below zero. If you have a house in Chonburi or Satahip and want to see your neighbors' grandma dancing, these are the places to go :

Club Nevada.

Far East Rock.

Smile Rock.

28 clubs out of 60 rated. Revised on time to time bases. Current Feb. 22/2012

As season is on and some of you guys still might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal revised rating based on :

1. Atmosphere and Service 40, 2. Quality of Dancers 40, 3. Prices 20.

Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2012.

5 stars *

Airport.

Baccara.

Diamond.

What's up?

4 stars*

Baby Dolls.

Fahrenheit.

Happy.

Living Dolls Showcase.

Peppermint.

Super baby.

TQ 1.

3 stars *

Alcatraz.

Champagne.

Dollhouse.

Oasis.

Super Girl.

Sweethearts.

2 stars *

Champion.

Sapphire.

Toyz.

1 star *

Iron Club.

Helo.

Moon Club.

Shark.

Spanky's.

Below zero. If you have a house in Chonburi or Satahip and want to see your neighbors' grandma dancing, these are the places to go :

Club Nevada.

Far East Rock.

Smile Rock.

28 clubs out of 60 rated. Revised on time to time bases. Current Feb. 22/2012

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1253834]I found them, a 22 year old spinner who asked for 800 baht for st anal at about 11 pm on Beach Road accross Mike Shopping Mall. After last night's failure, I tried to make sure that she was ok with anal by repeating what I asked for,"fuck ass & pictures for 800baht, ok?" She agreed again. She provided good BBBJ & rode me reverse cowgirl. I noticed that she had an extremely tiny asshole, like smaller than my pinky. That was about to change!

She lubed up & her ass & I started to fuck her ass. After a couple minutes she stopped saying I was too rough with her ass. I said ok then finish pussy. She said no & started to get dressed. What would you do? How much would you pay to get her out of the hotel room quietly?

She asked for 400 baht. I was pissed. I paid 200 & got dressed to go hunting again. Crap![/QUOTE]I love BBFS. Thanks for the report and pics.

I asked Sa from 2 nights ago to see if she can find a girl who likes ass fucking. She called me tonight to say that she found 2 girls. I actually had a chance to choose between two girls, one 22 & the other 25. Sa said,"one million percent sure they can fuck ass." So funny! Both were about 5'3" 5'4" and of average build and spoke some English. I took the 25 year old one & got the phone number of the other 22 year old girl.

The 25 yo agreed on 1k baht for st but lots of ass. BBBJ then she mounted me with her ass. No pussy BS. After a couple min she said,"only 20 min, ok?" WTF! Then after about 5 min of doggie she wanted to stop! Shit, literally shit, I have such bad luck! She said sorry & went to wash up. She asked for 600 baht. I gave her 300 baht & sent her on her way.

Sa called me to apologize. Sa then said,"call me tomorrow. You fuck my ass." I hope it is true.

Is anyone else having problems like me?

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1254156]I asked Sa from 2 nights ago to see if she can find a girl who likes ass fucking. She called me tonight to say that she found 2 girls. I actually had a chance to choose between two girls, one 22 & the other 25. Sa said,"one million percent sure they can fuck ass." So funny! Both were about 5'3" 5'4" and of average build and spoke some English. I took the 25 year old one & got the phone number of the other 22 year old girl.

The 25 yo agreed on 1k baht for st but lots of ass. BBBJ then she mounted me with her ass. No pussy BS. After a couple min she said,"only 20 min, ok?" WTF! Then after about 5 min of doggie she wanted to stop! Shit, literally shit, I have such bad luck! She said sorry & went to wash up. She asked for 600 baht. I gave her 300 baht & sent her on her way.

Sa called me to apologize. Sa then said,"call me tomorrow. You fuck my ass." I hope it is true.

Is anyone else having problems like me?[/QUOTE]No pussy BS. You funny!
Also, good job dude. You literally "fucked the Shit" out of her. HAHA

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1254156]The 25 yo agreed on 1k baht for st but lots of ass. BBBJ then she mounted me with her ass. No pussy BS. After a couple min she said,"only 20 min, ok?" WTF! Then after about 5 min of doggie she wanted to stop! Shit, literally shit, I have such bad luck! She said sorry & went to wash up. She asked for 600 baht. I gave her 300 baht & sent her on her way.

Is anyone else having problems like me?[/QUOTE]Not me, 'cause I don't fuck girls in the ass, but I'll bet you'd be yelling "stop!" too if some animal was fucking and pounding you up the ass.

No offense, and I understand some guys like anal sex, which is fine if the girl is willing, but I think you should have given her the 600 baht and told her you were sorry for hurting her. She no doubt would have been willing to get you off another way.

These poor girls are willing to do ANYTHING for the money they deperately need.

I like to do the ass from time to time myself, but I think the problem with many guys is they think the ass is flexible like the pussy! So technique is important, like Sushi a California roll for example it is to be eaten with some wasabe and Kikomen sauce? With the ass you got to work the opening slowly with your thumb and of course get some lube for her! You got to bore that hole slowly instead of blasting the opening. In one set of your picture the girl is bleeding, size is important but you got to put size and technique together (like I do LOL) so she comes away with a enjoyable experience and get paid for it too! A good sign is she is enjoying it is when she puff out some gas!

LBM

[quote=littlebigman; 1254197]i like to do the ass from time to time myself, but i think the problem with many guys is they think the ass is flexible like the pussy! so technique is important, like sushi a california roll for example it is to be eaten with some wasabe and kikomen sauce? with the ass you got to work the opening slowly with your thumb and of course get some lube for her! you got to bore that hole slowly instead of blasting the opening. in one set of your picture the girl is bleeding, size is important but you got to put size and technique together (like i do lol) so she comes away with a enjoyable experience and get paid for it too! a good sign is she is enjoying it is when she puff out some gas!

lbm[/quote]having fucked a lot of tender young and old ass in his long and fruitful life, this man clearly knows whereof he speaks!

you have to dialate that little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute slowly and lovingly with finger and tongue until you discover gas. only then is it safe to start pumping for crude:)

Hey Gents.

I will be in Pattaya in 3 weeks, and would like to hook up with a pregnant Woman.

(Not sure why but I find the experience really a turn on. Maybe it is the larger breasts / nipples, and the thought of some fresh milk!)

Does anyone have any recent contact info for any preggo WG's? If so, please PM me.

I will be diligent about cruising BR, but having some advance info will help.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Travelin Dog; 1254209]Hey Gents.

I will be in Pattaya in 3 weeks, and would like to hook up with a pregnant Woman.

(Not sure why but I find the experience really a turn on. Maybe it is the larger breasts / nipples, and the thought of some fresh milk!)

Does anyone have any recent contact info for any preggo WG's? If so, please PM me.

I will be diligent about cruising BR, but having some advance info will help.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've seen a few along Beach Road. A couple seemed almost ready to pop. Sa & the first girl last night both had a little milk. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1254184]Not me, 'cause I don't fuck girls in the ass, but I'll bet you'd be yelling "stop!" too if some animal was fucking and pounding you up the ass.

No offense, and I understand some guys like anal sex, which is fine if the girl is willing, but I think you should have given her the 600 baht and told her you were sorry for hurting her. She no doubt would have been willing to get you off another way.

These poor girls are willing to do ANYTHING for the money they deperately need.[/QUOTE]D07 & LBG,

Good advice. Thank you!

"animal"

[quote=daddy07; 1254207]having fucked a lot of tender young and old ass in his long and fruitful life, this man clearly knows whereof he speaks!

you have to dialate that little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute slowly and lovingly with finger and tongue until you discover gas. only then is it safe to start pumping for crude.[/quote]is this the pattaya / jomtien equivalent of "fracking?" ;)

I found this ultra skinny girl on BR at about 3 am last night. She asked 500 baht ST FS. I had to get my rocks off after the earlier disappointment. Good BBBJ & reverse cowgirl. When I got on top, she could not take it very deep so I had her use her hand as a "spacer" outside her pussy. Finished HARD with CIM. Tipped 100 so total 600. I forgot her name & forgot to get her number.

[quote=daddy07; 1254207]having fucked a lot of tender young and old ass in his long and fruitful life, this man clearly knows whereof he speaks!

you have to dialate that little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute slowly and lovingly with finger and tongue until you discover gas. only then is it safe to start pumping for crude.[/quote]you got part of it, but from experience you really got to be cautious as to tongue the ass. not all like tongue there and when i 69 them that is when i insert the thumb. while i'm licking them and i feel the time is right i slowly without them even knowing i slipped the thumb slowly up their ass and if i get no resistence i slowly screw them stroke by stroke slowly with my thumb and pull it out and while i'm still licking her pussy, i visually look and smell my thumb (like checking the dipstick) only then is it safe to start pumping. crude isn't what i'm looking for since i'm more into going green?

lbm

I met up with a fellow ISG member today & we went to lunch at Himeji, an all you can eat shabu shabu restaurant located on the 5th floor of Central Festival Shopping Mall. It is only 309 baht and includes sushi, fruits, soft drinks, and meats & vegetables that you simply pick off a conveyor belt & toss into your pot to cook. There seems to be no time limit for eating as we were there for over two hours.

We talked about what to do during the down time and I suggested a great theatre on the 6th floor of Central Festival Shopping Mall. In fact, I had just taken my female Thai friend there last night to enjoy a First Class movie for 700 baht per person. The First Class movie experience includes 1 hour pre movie reception in a private lounge with welcome fruit drink, cold towel, about 6 different appetizer sized foods from a small buffet, & a coffee drink (all pre movie). During the movie you are served a soda & popcorn and sit in a huge power recling seat (or sofa) with blanket. Highly recommended!

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1254243]I found this ultra skinny girl on BR at about 3 am last night. She asked 500 baht ST FS. I had to get my rocks off after the earlier disappointment. Good BBBJ & reverse cowgirl. When I got on top, she could not take it very deep so I had her use her hand as a "spacer" outside her pussy. Finished HARD with CIM. Tipped 100 so total 600. I forgot her name & forgot to get her number.[/QUOTE]God I love skinny girls!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1254311]During the movie you are served a soda & popcorn and sit in a huge power recling seat (or sofa) with blanket. Highly recommended![/QUOTE]And did you remember anything about the movie?

[QUOTE=Marteau; 1254467]God I love skinny girls!

Thanks![/QUOTE]If I saw her in the US, I would think that she was anorexic. She was very nice & slow. If I see her again, I'll get her number for you.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1254311]I met up with a fellow ISG member today & we went to lunch at Himeji, an all you can eat shabu shabu restaurant located on the 5th floor of Central Festival Shopping Mall. It is only 309 baht and includes sushi, fruits, soft drinks, and meats & vegetables that you simply pick off a conveyor belt & toss into your pot to cook. There seems to be no time limit for eating as we were there for over two hours.

We talked about what to do during the down time and I suggested a great theatre on the 6th floor of Central Festival Shopping Mall. In fact, I had just taken my female Thai friend there last night to enjoy a First Class movie for 700 baht per person. The First Class movie experience includes 1 hour pre movie reception in a private lounge with welcome fruit drink, cold towel, about 6 different appetizer sized foods from a small buffet, & a coffee drink (all pre movie). During the movie you are served a soda & popcorn and sit in a huge power recling seat (or sofa) with blanket. Highly recommended![/QUOTE]Thanks Sushilover, I will be in Patts in three weeks.

I met Sai around 11 pm on BR close to Mike Shopping Mall. He had a very athletic looking body. I actually saw her on Thursday night but I was already headed back to my room with another choice. She said no ass & no cim but I liked her athletic looking body. She was in great shape. We agreed 500 baht ST.

Back at my place she told me she was 44 but as you can see from the pictures, she has a tight body from working out, having no children, no stretch marks, & tight pussy. GFE with DFK (which I did not ask for) , BBBJ, multiple positions. She even tried anal a couple times but could not take it deep or very long but I appreciated that she tried. Her pussy was tighter than last night's shitty asshole! Very long, unhurried session. I gave her 1k baht for her excellent service.

She got dressed and asked if I was going out again. I said no because my back was sore & I was tired. She gave me a Thai back, leg, & arm massage for about 30 to 45 minutes. Then she gave me more BBBJ & asked if I wanted anything more. I said more fuck is ok.

Round 2 was very long mostly with her on top. I finally got on top & tried to finish but was too tired. I washed up and got ready to sleep. While she washing up I put a few hundred baht more for her near her purse. She asked if I wanted her to stay & sleep with me or go. I told her to go meet her friend for dancing or whatever. Again she asked if I wanted anything. I asked her to suck my dick a little more. She did until I was almost asleep. I said thanks & sent her away. Total was 1300 or 1400 baht for about 2 1/2 hours. I would definitely repeat so I got her phone number.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1254311]I met up with a fellow ISG member today & we went to lunch at Himeji, an all you can eat shabu shabu restaurant located on the 5th floor of Central Festival Shopping Mall. It is only 309 baht and includes sushi, fruits, soft drinks, and meats & vegetables that you simply pick off a conveyor belt & toss into your pot to cook. There seems to be no time limit for eating as we were there for over two hours.

We talked about what to do during the down time and I suggested a great theatre on the 6th floor of Central Festival Shopping Mall. In fact, I had just taken my female Thai friend there last night to enjoy a First Class movie for 700 baht per person. The First Class movie experience includes 1 hour pre movie reception in a private lounge with welcome fruit drink, cold towel, about 6 different appetizer sized foods from a small buffet, & a coffee drink (all pre movie). During the movie you are served a soda & popcorn and sit in a huge power recling seat (or sofa) with blanket. Highly recommended![/QUOTE]The movie experience sounds interesting. Were many other people sharing the experience? (I mean the pre movie reception experience and not the under the blanket experience)

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1254501]And did you remember anything about the movie?[/QUOTE]Yes, we saw Act of Valor. It is a great movie and I recommed that you see it at this theatre! The person I went with is my friend, not sex friend. She took me to try Muay Thai boxing so I took her to experience the First Class Cinema. She really liked it.

We parted after the movie & I went hunting on Beach Road on the way back to my hotel.

[url]http://www.centralfestival.co.th/th/popup-movieShowtime.aspx[/url]

[url]http://www.sfcinemacity.com/index.php/th/cinema/location/SFX[/url]

[QUOTE=Al Grace;1254560]The movie experience sounds interesting. Were many other people sharing the experience? (I mean the pre movie reception experience and not the under the blanket experience)[/QUOTE]It was almost like a private theatre. These was nobody else in the entire theatre but it was a late show on Saturday night. Tickets for the First Class theatre are 700 baht per person compared to the standard seat theatre of 150 baht per person. Of course that's the whole idea of First Class to charge several times the price to get more room & better service, right?

[QUOTE=Wolf Hound; 1254738]Nice work Sushi. I don't have PM but would appreciate her number.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Please pay your $20 membership fee to ISG like the rest have done & you will be able to PM as we do.

Today was my second visit to Fairtex Sport & Racquet Club as a guest of a friend. The usual guest fee is 300 baht. Included are rock climbing & 15 minutes of muai thai training. There are also lots of free weights & machines, aerobic & yoga classes, a large swimming pool, sauna, steam room, showers with soap, complementary towel service, & a juice bar. These is also a squash court but today a couple old farts were kinda racquetball in that court. It was mildly entertaining to watch.

Today, I went specifically to do the rock climbing. It was very tough. The Muay Thai training involving punching & kicking trainers was challenging but fun. FYI - getting there is about 50 baht & about 15 minutes by motortaxi from Soi 13 & 2nd road, near the Avenue shopping mall. It's a fun way to spend the afternoon so checkout their website then see it in person!

[url]http://www.fairtexpattaya.com/[/url]

After my workout, I had a 7:30 dinner with a different female Thai friend at Sukishi Korean BBQ on the 5th floor at Central Festival. [url]http://www.sukishigroup.com/th/index.php[/url] Sushi appetizer, Special Korean seafood grill platter for 2, a whole fish side dish, drinks, & dessert was just under 1200 baht. After dinner, we played a few video games then went for a nightcap before she went home around 12:30. Nice time, like a first date, with a normal English-speaking girl with a regular day job. Of course, no monetary gift but I paid for everything.

On my 15 minute walk back to my hotel along beach road, I found a very slender 28 yo girl. She asked 500 baht for FS (including BBBJ). I asked for non-face pictures and anal for more baht but she declined both. Service was just barely satisfactory from this "bare bones" skinny girl but no CIM, no extra anything. Before she left, I again offered 200 baht more for pictures of her body, not her face but she declined. This is the first time I was inclined NOT to tip & DIDN'T. Perhaps my Canadian lunch friend is influencing me. Sorry, no pictures today. Oh well, less for her means more for the next girl.

The point of this is that decent 500 baht service providers can easily be found on Beach Road in just a few minutes while walking back to your hotel from dinner. Happy hunting!

Fellow ISG Members,

I'm leaving on Friday so let's all get together for lunch on Thursday, March 8 at 12 noon at the EDGE restaurant on the 15th floor at the Hilton Hotel to trade stories! Newbies are welcome to come & ask questions! There is a great buffet for only 350 baht (including tax & service charge). Drinks are extra. We each pay for our own lunch & drinks as the restaurant will do seperate checks. I went to this restaurant yesterday with a fellow ISG member & it was fantastic. Added benefit. It was great fun watching young Thai girls with foreign boyfriends!

Please reply here or PM if you are able to come so I can make a reservation for us.

The King of Pattaya. Mr. Enternational, are you in?

Edge Restaurant at the Hilton: This contemporary Pattaya restaurant caters for a wide variety of tastes offering a selection of delicious international and Asian favorites. The mood is relaxed and welcoming, offering casual dining by day and transforming into a stylish venue with a seductive vibe by night. Located on level 14 of the Hilton Pattaya hotel, Edge offers indoor and outdoor terrace dining, stunning views of Pattaya Bay and an abundance of natural light.

[url]http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hotel/BKKHPHI-Hilton-Pattaya-hotel/dining.do[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3i1ppy8xU[/url]

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1254899]Fellow ISG Members,

I'm leaving on Friday so let's all get together for lunch on Thursday, March 8 at 12 noon at the EDGE restaurant on the 15th floor at the Hilton Hotel to trade stories![/QUOTE]Count me in on that.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1254873]It was almost like a private theatre. These was nobody else in the entire theatre but it was a late show on Saturday night. Tickets for the First Class theatre are 700 baht per person compared to the standard seat theatre of 150 baht per person. Of course that's the whole idea of First Class to charge several times the price to get more room & better service, right?[/QUOTE]To Sushi

I don't know how cinema stay in business in Thailand local don't go the movie much, most of the time the theatre is only 25 % full and that go for most country in Asia you can buy DVD so cheap even before it hit the theatre, did you try any BJ bar yet I cannot believe you waste time going to the movie instead of some live actions.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1254873]It was almost like a private theatre. These was nobody else in the entire theatre but it was a late show on Saturday night. Tickets for the First Class theatre are 700 baht per person compared to the standard seat theatre of 150 baht per person. Of course that's the whole idea of First Class to charge several times the price to get more room & better service, right?[/QUOTE]I love the theater at Central Festival. I have been to all 3 types there and love them all. The 1st Class, The Porch, and the regularones.

The porch has nice Beds you get to lie on and watch a movie with your date. 1 drink included and nice huge bed.

I love 1st class too with their reclining seats and blankets.

Can't go wrong and the price is reasonable compard to American theater's with TOP NOTCH service.

Headd back for 1 month in April / may during Songkran and will see many movi again.

A piece on Sex Workers today in one of the papers.

[quote]BANGKOK:. Being a sex worker these days isn't what it used to be, at least for those whose rights are backed up by the Empower Foundation. Much has improved. No more pimps or mamasans, and fewer punches thrown their way. Being "rescued", though, causes them all sorts of problems.

Most people remain unaware of the dramatic new context in the flesh trade, Empower director Chantawipa Apisuk said at the recent release of a report,"Hit & Run: Sex Workers' Research on Anti-trafficking in Thailand".

"We have now reached a point in history where there are more women in the Thai sex industry being abused by anti-trafficking practices than there are women exploited by traffickers," she said.

The government and the agencies that abet its efforts to "help" prostitutes have, in many ways, gone too far in enforcing the Prevention and Suppression of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] Act.

The modern sex worker has work tools apart from makeup and condoms, said Chantawipa, who founded Empower in 1985 to safeguard their rights. They have cell phones and the Internet. Rather than greedy pimps, their support network is centred on a trusted tuk-tuk driver or the local motorcycle-taxi guy who takes them around and protects them.

These people have designated workplaces. Restaurants, massage parlours, go-go bars, beer bars or karaoke clubs. Their work might also entail dancing for or drinking beer with the customers.

More than 20, 000 sex workers make use of Empower's contact points in 11 provinces in the North, Northeast and Central region, including several on the Burmese border.

Empower has seen the industry develop continuously through three decades and 10 governments. Sex work is now widely regarded as a quasi-legitimate profession, with its own form of employers and self-employed workers.

Inevitably, though, prostitution remains a crime in the eyes of many, and those plying the trade are treated accordingly.

But the kindlier view, that they are victims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], isn't a great deal of help either, Chantawipa said. Legislation aimed at stopping the trafficking of people has had a serious adverse effect.

The "Hit & Run" report is an effort to assess the state of the profession. More than 200 sex workers helped the foundation conduct a survey over the course of 12 months, in bars, restaurants and brothels across the county and even into Burma and Laos.

"We trained them in legal rights," Chantawipa said, although some were already university graduates and several even had law degrees."We call them our 'high-heeled human-rights defenders'."

It's a play on the term "barefoot lawyer". A solicitor who cares about justice rather than fees. Explains Liz Hilton. She's worked with the foundation for nearly 20 years and helped coordinated the project and the associated Rapid Action Training for Sex Workers.

"The first round of training was done in 12-month blocks in 2008 and 2009. There were 23 sex workers. Men, women and transgender people."

The survey determined that more than 50,000 sex workers have been involved with Empower since it started, including migrants mainly from Laos, Burma, China and Cambodia.

Migration, it was noted, is part of the "culture" of sex work, and the brokers involved in transporting people are generally seen as helpful. Most don't charge exorbitant rates for their service.

One of the "high-heeled rights defenders", Sasumi from Mae Sai in Chiang Rai, said she often helps fellow sex workers with legal matters when they're arrested. She's been in the business since she was 20. She's now 27. "I've seen a lot of improvement in the workplaces," she said.

"We're better off there than taking a risk waiting around on the street. If better choices are available, then naturally we choose them."

Nang from Mukdahan, who also helped with the survey, said few women arrested under the anti-trafficking legislation know what it is."They're just going to work, they think, so why are they being arrested?"

Mala moved to Mae Sot because she couldn't earn enough money there for her family. Muay moved across the border to Mae Sai, convinced that whatever Thailand offered had to be better than what she left. Picked up under the anti-trafficking law, they both got sent back.

"We came to build new lives for our families, not to be sent home empty-handed and ashamed," explained Dang Moo, another Burmese sex worker in Mae Sot.

Kiaw from Laos pleaded for understanding among the Thai public and authorities that sex workers prefer not to break any laws."We aren't criminals. We're just honest people trying to build better lives." The women might build a house for their parents or put a kid brother through school.

But the anti-trafficking law regards sex workers as victims, so those who enforce it believe they are "rescuing" the prostitutes. That just makes things worse, say the sex workers.

"Before I was arrested I was working happily, had no debt, and was free to move around the city," said Nok, a Burmese."Now I'm in debt, I'm scared most of the time, and it's not safe to move around. How can they call this 'help'?"

Once "rescued" and after a period of detainment, the foreign workers are deported (only to return at the first chance) and the Thais usually have to undergo vocational training.

"Thai society still looks at sex workers in the old context," Chantawipa said, and even the government's "modern" view of sex workers as victims is outdated. The aim now is to get the government and other concerned parties to stop using the word "victim", to stop putting trafficking and sex work in the same category.

Riddled with loopholes, the anti-trafficking law meanwhile is undercutting women's efforts in other areas, Chantawipa said. It confuses the organisations opposed to trafficking about sex workers' true status. Are they criminals or the victims of criminals?

NEW CONTEXT.

Empower's survey has determined that:

- Today's sex worker provides enough income to take good care of the family.

- Their workplace. Usually an evening entertainment venue. Has regulations, covering work schedule and monthly salary paid according to skill level. Thus, sex workers are employees.

- Gone, for the most part, are the days of random arrest, regular violence, pimps, the prostitution mafia and the "green harvest", when girls are recruited upcountry. In their place are helpful "older brothers". The motorcycle-taxi or tuk-tuk driver, the bar manager.

- Sex workers now have Hi-tech tools like smart phones and the Internet, and they're also skilled at using them.

Nighlife's tapestry.

Empower launched its research project last month with a one-day exhibition at the Bangkok Art and Culture Centre, displaying the "Mida Tapestry", sewn by migrant sex workers as a way to document and show the impact police raids have on their lives. It carries a second message in that the detained sex workers are regularly forced or offered sewing lessons as a cure-all for social ills.[/quote]

Thailand's sex workers are off the streets, in safe workplaces. They don't want to be 'rescued'

BANGKOK:. Being a sex worker these days isn't what it used to be, at least for those whose rights are backed up by the Empower Foundation. Much has improved. No more pimps or mamasans, and fewer punches thrown their way. Being "rescued", though, causes them all sorts of problems.

Most people remain unaware of the dramatic new context in the flesh trade, Empower director Chantawipa Apisuk said at the recent release of a report,"Hit & Run: Sex Workers' Research on Anti-trafficking in Thailand".

"We have now reached a point in history where there are more women in the Thai sex industry being abused by anti-trafficking practices than there are women exploited by traffickers," she said.

The government and the agencies that abet its efforts to "help" prostitutes have, in many ways, gone too far in enforcing the Prevention and Suppression of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] Act.

The modern sex worker has work tools apart from makeup and condoms, said Chantawipa, who founded Empower in 1985 to safeguard their rights. They have cell phones and the Internet. Rather than greedy pimps, their support network is centred on a trusted tuk-tuk driver or the local motorcycle-taxi guy who takes them around and protects them.

These people have designated workplaces. Restaurants, massage parlours, go-go bars, beer bars or karaoke clubs. Their work might also entail dancing for or drinking beer with the customers.

More than 20, 000 sex workers make use of Empower's contact points in 11 provinces in the North, Northeast and Central region, including several on the Burmese border.

Empower has seen the industry develop continuously through three decades and 10 governments. Sex work is now widely regarded as a quasi-legitimate profession, with its own form of employers and self-employed workers.

Inevitably, though, prostitution remains a crime in the eyes of many, and those plying the trade are treated accordingly.

But the kindlier view, that they are victims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], isn't a great deal of help either, Chantawipa said. Legislation aimed at stopping the trafficking of people has had a serious adverse effect.

The "Hit & Run" report is an effort to assess the state of the profession. More than 200 sex workers helped the foundation conduct a survey over the course of 12 months, in bars, restaurants and brothels across the county and even into Burma and Laos.

"We trained them in legal rights," Chantawipa said, although some were already university graduates and several even had law degrees."We call them our 'high-heeled human-rights defenders'."

It's a play on the term "barefoot lawyer". A solicitor who cares about justice rather than fees. Explains Liz Hilton. She's worked with the foundation for nearly 20 years and helped coordinated the project and the associated Rapid Action Training for Sex Workers.

"The first round of training was done in 12-month blocks in 2008 and 2009. There were 23 sex workers. Men, women and transgender people."

The survey determined that more than 50, 000 sex workers have been involved with Empower since it started, including migrants mainly from Laos, Burma, China and Cambodia.

Migration, it was noted, is part of the "culture" of sex work, and the brokers involved in transporting people are generally seen as helpful. Most don't charge exorbitant rates for their service.

One of the "high-heeled rights defenders", Sasumi from Mae Sai in Chiang Rai, said she often helps fellow sex workers with legal matters when they're arrested. She's been in the business since she was 20. She's now 27."I've seen a lot of improvement in the workplaces," she said.

"We're better off there than taking a risk waiting around on the street. If better choices are available, then naturally we choose them."

Nang from Mukdahan, who also helped with the survey, said few women arrested under the anti-trafficking legislation know what it is."They're just going to work, they think, so why are they being arrested?"

Mala moved to Mae Sot because she couldn't earn enough money there for her family. Muay moved across the border to Mae Sai, convinced that whatever Thailand offered had to be better than what she left. Picked up under the anti-trafficking law, they both got sent back.

"We came to build new lives for our families, not to be sent home empty-handed and ashamed," explained Dang Moo, another Burmese sex worker in Mae Sot.

Kiaw from Laos pleaded for understanding among the Thai public and authorities that sex workers prefer not to break any laws."We aren't criminals. We're just honest people trying to build better lives." The women might build a house for their parents or put a kid brother through school.

But the anti-trafficking law regards sex workers as victims, so those who enforce it believe they are "rescuing" the prostitutes. That just makes things worse, say the sex workers.

"Before I was arrested I was working happily, had no debt, and was free to move around the city," said Nok, a Burmese."Now I'm in debt, I'm scared most of the time, and it's not safe to move around. How can they call this 'help'?"

Once "rescued" and after a period of detainment, the foreign workers are deported (only to return at the first chance) and the Thais usually have to undergo vocational training.

"Thai society still looks at sex workers in the old context," Chantawipa said, and even the government's "modern" view of sex workers as victims is outdated. The aim now is to get the government and other concerned parties to stop using the word "victim", to stop putting trafficking and sex work in the same category.

Riddled with loopholes, the anti-trafficking law meanwhile is undercutting women's efforts in other areas, Chantawipa said. It confuses the organisations opposed to trafficking about sex workers' true status. Are they criminals or the victims of criminals?

NEW CONTEXT.

Empower's survey has determined that:

- Today's sex worker provides enough income to take good care of the family.

- Their workplace. Usually an evening entertainment venue. Has regulations, covering work schedule and monthly salary paid according to skill level. Thus, sex workers are employees.

- Gone, for the most part, are the days of random arrest, regular violence, pimps, the prostitution mafia and the "green harvest", when girls are recruited upcountry. In their place are helpful "older brothers". The motorcycle-taxi or tuk-tuk driver, the bar manager.

- Sex workers now have Hi-tech tools like smart phones and the Internet, and they're also skilled at using them.

Nighlife's tapestry.

Empower launched its research project last month with a one-day exhibition at the Bangkok Art and Culture Centre, displaying the "Mida Tapestry", sewn by migrant sex workers as a way to document and show the impact police raids have on their lives. It carries a second message in that the detained sex workers are regularly forced or offered sewing lessons as a cure-all for social ills.

Couple of snapshots taken from my room at Queen Vic.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1254899]Fellow ISG Members,

I'm leaving on Friday so let's all get together for lunch on Thursday, March 8 at 12 noon at the EDGE restaurant on the 15th floor at the Hilton Hotel to trade stories! Newbies are welcome to come & ask questions! There is a great buffet for only 350 baht (including tax & service charge). Drinks are extra. We each pay for our own lunch & drinks as the restaurant will do seperate checks. I went to this restaurant yesterday with a fellow ISG member & it was fantastic. Added benefit. It was great fun watching young Thai girls with foreign boyfriends![/QUOTE]So far, 4 ISG Members are coming to lunch at the Hilton on Thursday (tomorrow, March 8). I will make a reservation today at the Hilton Edge restaurant under Sushilover ISG. Just a reminder that the restaurant is on the 15th floor. You're welcome bring a friend to join us and you can come just for drinks if you're not hungry.

Noddy, Leggy11, Fast Eddie 48, and anyone else, please join us for some good times!

i changed hotel & scenery to soi lk metro today. this new hotel has small, medium, & large rooms for 1000, 1300, & 1500 baht per night. the medium & large rooms have a kitchennette. there is free access to a swimming pool & gym. champagne a gogo & [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s are right accross the street. clean large rooms & recommended!

[url]http://keeratihomestay.com/gallery.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1255295]So far. 4 ISG Members are coming to lunch at the Hilton on Thursday (tomorrow, March 8). I will make a reservation today at the Hilton Edge restaurant under Sushilover ISG. Just a reminder that the restaurant is on the 15th floor. You're welcome bring a friend to join us and you can come just for drinks if you're not hungry.

Noddy, Leggy11, Fast Eddie 48, and anyone else, please join us for some good times![/QUOTE]Thats a great idea! Pity I won't be in town for a couple of weeks. If your thinking of repeating this I would certainly attend if I'm around!

Have a great lunch!

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1255295]Noddy, Leggy11, Fast Eddie 48, and anyone else, please join us for some good times![/QUOTE]Noddy would dearly love to join you guys for lunch would he not be back where the Sun don't shine. Appreciations anyway. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Bonker04; 1255351]Thats a great idea! Pity I won't be in town for a couple of weeks. If your thinking of repeating this I would certainly attend if I'm around!

Have a great lunch![/QUOTE]I think that is a GREAT idea.

Although I am in Thailand at the moment I am in BKK and will not reach Pattaya until Friday evening.

If someone wants to organize another one then, if am in Pattaya, please count me in as well.

Do you think that a regular once a month one would work?

Perhaps the last Thursday or Friday of the month, then everyone would know WHEN it was going to be and could plan around it!

Enjoy yourselves guys.

Hotman.

I seldom repeat but I did not have a session last night so I made up for it this afternoon with a call to Sai from a couple nights ago. She arrived in less than one hour after the call. Nice FS w / BBBJ then a full body massage concluding with another BBBJ & a second session. I gave her 1000 baht for 2 rounds in 2 1/2 hours. I took her to Hajime for dinner, that shabu-shabu restaurant on the 5th floor of Central Festival. 309 baht pp. [url]http://hajimerobot.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1255526]I seldom repeat but I did not have a session last night so I made up for it this afternoon with a call to Sai from a couple nights ago. She arrived in less than one hour after the call. Nice FS w / BBBJ then a full body massage concluding with another BBBJ & a second session. I gave her 1000 baht for 2 rounds in 2 1/2 hours. I took her to Hajime for dinner, that shabu-shabu restaurant on the 5th floor of Central Festival. 309 baht pp.

[url]http://hajimerobot.com/[/url][/QUOTE]OMG. Those are some lips on that snatch. Talk about a Taco.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1255460]I think that is a GREAT idea.

Although I am in Thailand at the moment I am in BKK and will not reach Pattaya until Friday evening.

If someone wants to organize another one then, if am in Pattaya, please count me in as well.

Do you think that a regular once a month one would work?

Perhaps the last Thursday or Friday of the month, then everyone would know WHEN it was going to be and could plan around it!

Enjoy yourselves guys.

Hotman.[/QUOTE]I'm happy that you think it is a great idea but I leave on Friday headed to BKK.

Would you be willing to organize the next one?

Aloha, SL

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1254955]To Sushi

I don't know how cinema stay in business in Thailand local don't go the movie much, most of the time the theatre is only 25 % full and that go for most country in Asia you can buy DVD so cheap even before it hit the theatre, did you try any BJ bar yet I cannot believe you waste time going to the movie instead of some live actions.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]To FE48.

Actually I waste A LOT of time in Pattaya! I enjoy 2 to 3 hour lunches & dinners with friends or fellow ISG members, going to the gym for rock climbing or muay thai training, taking a bunch of pictures & writing reports for ISG, and enjoying an amazing movie theatre experience that I cannot have back home. Even with all this time waste, I've managed to have 10 girls (including 1 repeat) in 7 days. For me, it is about experiencing a variety of activities. I think I have provided my share of economic support to the Thai economy.

Happy hunting!

I met Ploy last night about 12 midnight on Beach Road just across Mike Shopping Mall. I made my usual request for BBBJ, anal, CIM, & pictures. She agreed to everything except CIM, but said COF ok. She asked for 1500 baht for ST. I said 500 plus 1000 tip if EVERYTHING is ok and I am happy. She agreed. As requested, I got BBBJ & cowgirl & reverse, then she slowly put me in her ass while she was on top. After a few minutes, I was on top, then doggie then back on top for over 1/2 hour of pussy to ass & ass to pussy pounding action. She took it for very well for a long time and was very clean. 1500 baht well spent!

I think she said she was 30 with 1 baby but I'm not sure. As you can see from the pictures, she has a great body. I asked if she wanted LT for more baht and she said,"oh, honey, you break my ass but I ask my friend for you." Great! I love it when they try to do my shopping for me! Before & after pictures of her ass for your comparison. Second to last picture is her writing her number down for another ass stretching session!

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1255586]I'm happy that you think it is a great idea but I leave on Friday headed to BKK.

Would you be willing to organize the next one?

Aloha, SL[/QUOTE]S. L.

I am only an "occasional" visitor to LOS (4 or 5 times a year.)

I think that it would be logistically better if someone local is able (and WILLING) to do it!

Enjoy,

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1255624]S. L.

I am only an "occasional" visitor to LOS (4 or 5 times a year.)

I think that it would be logistically better if someone local is able (and WILLING) to do it!

Enjoy,

Hotman.[/QUOTE]Yes, I can see how it could be logistically difficult to make a telephone lunch reservation.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1255624]S. L.

I am only an "occasional" visitor to LOS (4 or 5 times a year.)

I think that it would be logistically better if someone local is able (and WILLING) to do it!

Enjoy,

Hotman.[/QUOTE]4-5 times / year. That's not my definition of a occasional visitor.

I guess that's the dream of many guys here

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1255595]I met Ploy last night about 12 midnight on Beach Road just across Mike Shopping Mall. I made my usual request for BBBJ, anal, CIM, & pictures. She agreed to everything except CIM, but said COF ok. She asked for 1500 baht for ST. I said 500 plus 1000 tip if EVERYTHING is ok and I am happy. She agreed. As requested, I got BBBJ & cowgirl & reverse, then she slowly put me in her ass while she was on top. After a few minutes, I was on top, then doggie then back on top for over 1/2 hour of pussy to ass & ass to pussy pounding action. She took it for very well for a long time and was very clean. 1500 baht well spent!

I think she said she was 30 with 1 baby but I'm not sure. As you can see from the pictures, she has a great body. I asked if she wanted LT for more baht and she said,"oh, honey, you break my ass but I ask my friend for you." Great! I love it when they try to do my shopping for me! Before & after pictures of her ass for your comparison. Second to last picture is her writing her number down for another ass stretching session![/QUOTE]Fantastic body, yes!

Great pictures!

Thanks!

Has anybody visited "Number One bar" in Soi 7 recently?

If so, can you tell if a girl with a (recent) eagle or phoenix tattoo on her right shoulder works there? Her name may be "Duean" although she may have changed her "stage name". She is early 30 but of course looks younger.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1255590]To FE48.

Actually I waste A LOT of time in Pattaya! I enjoy 2 to 3 hour lunches & dinners with friends or fellow ISG members, going to the gym for rock climbing or muay thai training, taking a bunch of pictures & writing reports for ISG, and enjoying an amazing movie theatre experience that I cannot have back home. Even with all this time waste, I've managed to have 10 girls (including 1 repeat) in 7 days. For me, it is about experiencing a variety of activities. I think I have provided my share of economic support to the Thai economy.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]To Sushilover,

Look like you are having a good time in Pattaya one week go by very fast there, great photo and pick up I am back in the US already after one month in Asia and Thailand so cannot attend your ISG lunch, but I am already planning my next trip to Brazil next month.

Fast Eddie 48

Tonight was my last night in Pattaya so I bought the girls at the massage shop a couple bottles of vodka, a bottle of whiskey, some snacks, and mixers like coke, sprite, tonic water, etc. (Yes, I paid for my own going away party. Total was about 1500 baht with nothing expected in return.) We drank for almost 3 hours. I was drunk & dropped & busted my camera. I took the remaining whiskey & gave shots to girls up & down Beach Road. Before I knew it, it was almost 3 AM and most of the girls were gone.

I was now sober & about to give up & head back to my hotel without a girl when someone who had previously turned me down, waved to me, pointed to her friend, & said "she can fuck ass. 1000 baht!" The girl said she was 165 cm & 20 years old but looked young. Very young, possibly too young. Back at my hotel room, she assured me she was 20 & even showed me her I'd card. Yup. 20 years & 2 months. No BJ. Straight to fucking pussy & ass. After about 20 minutes of front & back action, she was gasping, wincing, and asking me to finish quickly. I gave it to her for another 3 minutes deep & hard. I asked for pictures of her pussy & ass and offered a few hundred more baht but she declined because of her tattoos. She agreed to a few pictures with my camera in my phone & asked for 60 baht. I was happy to oblige. Did I do ok in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1255869]Did I do ok in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Sushilover, Excellent reporting throughout your trip, and with great pictures to boot. You have done well! What was the name of the massage place and who would you recommend in the place?

Thanks 4 the reviews. Pattaya wasnt my favourite place, maybe because I broke my arm whilst arm wrestling at 4am in a gogo and spent the rest of my trip in Pattaya memorial hospital, but had a few girls I met that night come and visit me everyday in hospital, apart from that it wasnt too bad, its just very over the top with the amount of bars and gogos, could probably get used too it if I had too, need a few more visits to really know for sure. I enjoyed Peppermint and Baccara though. So many bars and venues to see, could go crazy, LOL

[QUOTE=CubanBorn87;1255882]She looks like she is 12.[/QUOTE]Yup, that's why I checked her I'd card, TWICE!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1255892]Sushilover, Excellent reporting throughout your trip, and with great pictures to boot. You have done well! What was the name of the massage place and who would you recommend in the place?[/QUOTE]There are two shops side by side on Soi Post Office where the Pizza Hut meets Beach Road. When you walk away from Beach Road, they are on your left about half way up the road. The name of the shop is something like "Be Happy". The girls wear hot pink shirts at one shop & orange shirts at the next. Both offer good massages. Pick a "very friendly" girl if you want extra services at either shop. Thai massage is 200 baht. I usually tip 100 baht for massage but as always, the tip is up to you."Extra special service" on request. Don't be shy. Just be direct & ask. They have heard it all!

[QUOTE=Banger69;1256020]Pattaya wasnt my favourite place, maybe because I broke my arm whilst arm wrestling at 4am in a gogo and spent the rest of my trip in Pattaya memorial hospital.[/QUOTE]Happens all the time to me too.

[QUOTE=Banger69;1256020]Thanks 4 the reviews. Pattaya wasnt my favourite place, maybe because I broke my arm whilst arm wrestling at 4am in a gogo and spent the rest of my trip in Pattaya memorial hospital, but had a few girls I met that night come and visit me everyday in hospital, apart from that it wasnt too bad, its just very over the top with the amount of bars and gogos, could probably get used too it if I had too, need a few more visits to really know for sure. I enjoyed Peppermint and Baccara though. So many bars and venues to see, could go crazy, LOL[/QUOTE]That's why you don't goto Mongering Destinations to Prove your Manhood against other men. You go for Poo-Nanny.

[QUOTE=Banger69;1256020]I broke my arm whilst arm wrestling at 4am in a gogo and spent the rest of my trip in Pattaya memorial hospital[/QUOTE]Dude, this is a story I have to hear, spill the details.

I am in Thailand now, the girls here looks 10 years younger than their real age.

[quote=daddy07;1256646]hummm. she doesn't look **** to me.[/quote]+1 apart from having no tits, she definitely looks 20+. i would not have even asked for i'd. though if she didn't have any at reception i would have been more concerned.

sushi, i think the people casting aspersions are either trolling, or are so old that in comparison anything under 30 is too young.

[quote=how14;1256562]this girl is totally **** and you should have stayed away from her, why have you went through with this? surely your instinct must tell you she is clearly ****? i don't agree with this and you are lucky you were not set up by this girl, or by now you would be sitting in the jail i think.[/quote][blue][deleted by admin][/blue] of course you should be careful, i heard stories about thai guys setup **** girls to scam farang and pay thousands of $ to not rise it to police. but i believe most of those girls are independent and just looking for quick money. better to stay away from them anyway definitely who are under 16!

[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]this report was edited to [u]remove references to **** persons[/u].

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted, and without starting flame wars.

please do not post references to **** persons in the forum. [i]thanks![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1256697]Sushi, I think the people casting aspersions are either trolling, or are so old that in comparison anything under 30 is too young.[/QUOTE]Nah, they're just jealous!

[quote=budlight;1256623]i am in thailand now, the girls here looks 10 years younger than their real age.[/quote]lots of thin asian girls look much younger than their age. i had a gf here in usa who looked 10 years younger. she was 21 and looked 14. got angry looks from lots of people. she got carded everywhere and even when we took trips people were surprised.

there is no need to listen to other people. they were not eye witness. you had fun and the girl is pretty. just because the girl looks young does not mean we should stay away from them. generally the hotel people are good at catching **** girls and advising you. once i had a girl from one of the beer bars who looked very young. she said she is 18. but i asked the girl serving beer and she said the girl is actually 21 but tells everybody she is 18. i guess she wants to take advantage of the fact that she looks young.

there are some girls who look older than their age also. fact of the matter is you are sure about the id and you had fun and done.

where as i understand your concern about mongering **** women, i disagree with you about how much younger than her age a thai woman can look. my gf is thai, weighs about 87 pounds and stands 4'11". her skin is that of a young woman, soft and supple. she looks 16 but she is presently 29 and has a daughter that is 11.

i have been going to thailand since the late 70's and have seen many thai women who look way younger then they actually are. if you are concerned, just take a picture of her i'd and email it to yourself, it's better to be safe rather then sorry.

as far as your attacking him about his choice, he didn't seek her out, she was brought to him by another provider. most of the women in his reports are in their late 20's and one was even 40 (who, by the way, he repeated with ). so i guess what i'm trying to say is that your accusations are way out of line.

happy pooning everyone

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[quote=how14;1256851]so you yourself condone that sort of thing? that girls **** no doubt.[/quote]how14, i am guessing you must be a fair bit older than me, as most of the women i date in australia. who are in their early to mid 20s. have faces that look like that (though with a larger bosom).

i do not condone, nor would i participate in sex with someone under the age of 18 (not since i was the same age). i even stopped going to a beer bar i used to start my soi cowboy nights at, as one of the girls looked too young, and confirmed she was "17, almost 18". i told the mamasan that she had lost a long term (ish) customer; she tried to convince me that the girl just worked behind the bar, never took off any clothes or went with customers, i said "not good enough" and haven't been back.

i stick by my judgement that she does not look it, and coupled with the fact that she had i. d. that supported that she was in her early 20s, i do not see the problem (though in comparison to a 50+ (or even maybe 40+) year old, she may seem too young. though i don't judge, as i plan to retire to thailand one day and be surrounded by beautiful 20+ year olds).

so how14, yes. i think you are being argumentative, and trolling. i do not remember your previous incarnation, though would be interested to know how often you did get into online arguments over unjustified speculation. it reaks of the thread wars that used to happen when an i. s. g member suggested that a wl in someone's photo post used to be a man, usually based purely on them having such a keen eye for these things.

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[quote=franco cozzo;1256863]i stick by my judgement that she does not look it, and coupled with the fact that she had i. d. that supported that she was in her early 20s, i do not see the problem (though in comparison to a 50+ (or even maybe 40+) year old, she may seem too young. though i don't judge, as i plan to retire to thailand one day and be surrounded by beautiful 20+ year olds).[/quote]frank. i'm 60 and i have not lost my ability to judge age. i think she looks her age. thin yes, but not **** to my eye.

so, you might rethink your judgement of people 40 to 50, or older.

[blue]greetings everyone,

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.

please do not post information about or references to **** persons in the forum.

thanks,

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[quote=admin; 1257074][blue]greetings everyone,

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.

please do not post information about or references to **** persons in the forum.

thanks,

[i]jackson[/i][/blue][/quote]dear mr. jackson, i have been very lucky not to get into deep trouble in thailand, i nearly did, several times, out of ignorance. how about a general thread about the dangers, including the **** issue?

[quote=wolf hound; 1256243]sushi,

i enjoyed some of your reports. however, some of your postings were disturbing. the last pictures you posted were more than likely of an **** girl. they can acquire fake i'd fairly easily. previously you also posted about girls 'crying' and what not when you were involved in anal sex, and seeming to be getting off on it. i find this disturbing also.[/quote]i'm in bkk now & haven't checked this board for a few days so i've been missing all the bs lately. please check again. i don't ever remember making any girl cry. they are all free to go at any time. some have left early. it is their choice to stay & get paid or leave with a small fraction of the agreed upon price should they choose not to fulfill the agreement.

[QUOTE=How14;1256558]You got turned down on beach road? Are you joking? Nobody gets turned down there.[/QUOTE]Yes, I get turned down maybe 80 to 90 percent of the time when asking for anal ST with CIM & pictures. I'm not joking. I guess I'm nobody.

[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo; 1256697]+1 Apart from having no tits, she definitely looks 20+. I would not have even asked for I'd. Though if she didn't have any at reception I would have been more concerned.

Sushi, I think the people casting aspersions are either trolling, or are so old that in comparison anything under 30 is too young.[/QUOTE]I agree. I was with a 22 year old spinner in BKK last night. If not for the baby stretch marks & her telling me her baby is 5 years old, her body would be the same as the girl in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1257204]I'm in BKK now & haven't checked this board for a few days so I've been missing all the BS lately. Please check again. I don't ever remember making any girl cry. They are all free to go at any time. Some have left early. It is their choice to stay & get paid or leave with a small fraction of the agreed upon price should they choose not to fulfill the agreement.[/QUOTE]Sushilover808,

See what kind of shit you stir up on this board, you even got a guy to come out of the woodwork to respond and Jackson to give you guys a lecture? With you gone the beachroad girls can now relax and get their anal muscle to retrack so they can at least be able to sit down now? The last two weeks I never saw so many butt holes and I believe the poster meant whining and not crying?

You need to change your handle to Shitdisturber808,

LBM

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1256739]Nah, they're just jealous![/QUOTE]Hahahahahahhaha!

[quote=leknomforme; 1256808]where as i understand your concern about mongering **** women, i disagree with you about how much younger than her age a thai woman can look. my gf is thai, weighs about 87 pounds and stands 4'11". her skin is that of a young woman, soft and supple. she looks 16 but she is presently 29 and has a daughter that is 11.

i have been going to thailand since the late 70's and have seen many thai women who look way younger then they actually are. if you are concerned, just take a picture of her i'd and email it to yourself, it's better to be safe rather then sorry.

as far as your attacking him about his choice, he didn't seek her out, she was brought to him by another provider. most of the women in his reports are in their late 20's and one was even 40 (who, by the way, he repeated with ). so i guess what i'm trying to say is that your accusations are way out of line.

happy pooning everyone[/quote]thank you for your support. i actually prefer the girls that are a little older because they seem to take their time to ensure that you enjoy your time. it also seems that they can handle the kind of action i like with greater ease.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1257214]Sushilover808,

See what kind of shit you stir up on this board, you even got a guy to come out of the woodwork to respond and Jackson to give you guys a lecture? With you gone the beachroad girls can now relax and get their anal muscle to retrack so they can at least be able to sit down now? The last two weeks I never saw so many butt holes and I believe the poster meant whining and not crying?

You need to change your handle to Shitdisturber808,

LBM[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you're joking as I never force anyone to do anything. I was in Pattaya for for 1 week and did 8 BR girls in the ass. The other few were standard FS. So far nothing in really great BKK but tonight is my last night so it will be good!

What's up everybody!

First time poster in this forum, so wanted to write a few words. I'm a former Brazil fanatic who is stopping my travels due to higher costs. Sure you've heard it before, but it's just not worth the money to go there anymore in my opinion. Also did more than a few stops in Sosua, Puerto Plata, and Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, but even though I had some fun there, I'm still feeling unfulfilled.

I've been hearing a lot from other guys who loved Brazil about Thailand and how I should give it a shot. I've been reading a lot of the pages and I must admit that I like what I'm seeing. As a friend of mine told me who has been there, he told me to forget the high price of my ticket to get there ($1400) , because once I get there, everything else will be cheap as hell, so it all works out. Based on what I've read so far, that seems to be very true. Cheap hotel and pussy is at a very good price down there. Bottom line is that it just looks like I will have a lot of FUN down there. Sure, fucking is fun, so I had some fun in Brazil and DR, but damn, from what I'm seeing, it just seems like there's a constant party down there in Pattaya. All those clubs, all those women, and just a lot more shit to do. In DR, I found myself bored to death during the day, unless I was with a hot chick, but in general the area was boring. I'm a big MMA fan, so when I saw that I would also have the opportunity to see some Muay Thai fights down there, let's just say that's another feather in Pattaya's cap.

Now for my concerns, the numero uno, top notch concern that I have involves ASS. As a fan of huge asses, of course, that is the number one reason why I spent so much time in Brazil. Celebrity wise: huge fan of asses like the ones on Jennifer Lopez, Serena Williams, Jessica Biel, and Kim Kardashian, just to name a few. Most of the pics that I have seen tell me that if I'm hooked on a large ass and flat stomach, I don't need to come to Asia. However, I find Asian girls to be gorgeous! I think that up close and once I have one of these beautiful women in my room, I will be turned on. A beautiful face along with some DFK and good BJ skills will always make that happen. As for how the dick will react when telling the chick to put her small ass up in the air for some doggie style (a booty man's favorite position) , I don't know and won't know till I try it. Never had a tiny booty before. Tell you what, if I were to bump into an Asian with a plump (not fat) ass, I may not come back to America. LOL. Please tell me you've seen a few.

Only other concern is the lengthy flight and whether I can handle it. I'm 6'5 and 260 and not rich, so no way I'm paynig for a business class seat. More than likely I'm coming via Korean Airlines. If anyone has any knowledge as to whether it should be a comfortable flight, please let me know. Because of sports, I have a bad right knee. Don't want to suffer on a long flight.

Last concern are the ladyboys, which I understand are rampant down there, but I'm guessing that's a minor issue. I just need to do a little inspection before bringing a chick to my room, right? Scary to read that it's not easy to tell, but not hugely worried about it.

Anyway, I'll close in saying thanks for all the great reports, as I am strongly leaning towards getting a plane ticket for a 3 week stay in November. Only other city I'm thinking about is Costa Rica and that's only because I don't want all my Spanish that I've been busting my ass to learn to go to waste. However, I'm thinking that's not a good enough reason to bypass the LOS. Blowjob bars, REALLY? The menu at the DEVIL'S DEN. Do they really do all that, REALLY? Clubs upon clubs upon clubs!

Ok, time to read more reports. Paying for a membership tomorrow so I can see some pics. I hope to make a decision soon. If you have any feedback on any of my concerns, please feel free to address them. OK, take it easy guys!

[QUOTE=The Windex Man;1257241]Tell you what, if I were to bump into an Asian with a plump (not fat) ass, I may not come back to America. LOL. Please tell me you've seen a few. Only other city I'm thinking about is Costa Rica and that's only because I don't want all my Spanish that I've been busting my ass to learn to go to waste.[/QUOTE]You say you want to practice your Spanish and you want a girl with a big ass. Why not kill two birds with one stone? I know a girl here in Pattaya with a big ass who likes to practice her Spanish as well. I'll hook you two up when you get here.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1257240]I'm assuming you're joking as I never force anyone to do anything. I was in Pattaya for for 1 week and did 8 BR girls in the ass. The other few were standard FS. So far nothing in really great BKK but tonight is my last night so it will be good![/QUOTE]Joking!

LBM

crazy4thai, apologies, i did not mean to be ageist (ok, maybe just a little, but only towards those casting aspersions my way). most of the mongerers i have had a beer with in thailand have been in the 40 to 70 year range, have been great to hang out with, and i should have had more regard for them before posting my remark.

jackson, thanks for closing down the discussion that was taking over this thread, it was making me feel uneasy about logging on. i don't particularly want to be a member of a board where members condone or advertise that kind of thing, even inadvertadly. it can only lead to trouble.

windex man, you shouldn't have a problem finding women with chunky behinds. on beach road i picked up a girl that looks strickingly like the one in mr entertainment's picture from behind. she had a very beautiful face, agreed to photos, but when i started taking pictures of us getting into action she went ape-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url]. apparently before and after photos were all that was allowed. mr e, if the girl you posted is much more liberal, may i also grab contact details? i am back in thailand over easter for a few days, and having the randomness taken out of some of my conquests would be good (though the chase is also some of the fun).

sushi, i concur. i also got turned down a few times when asking for action pictures and video (especially when also asking for anal) with the better looking girls on beach road, so i think being turned down is not that uncommon when asking for extras.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1257278]You say you want to practice your Spanish and you want a girl with a big ass. Why not kill two birds with one stone? I know a girl here in Pattaya with a big ass who likes to practice her Spanish as well. I'll hook you two up when you get here.[/QUOTE]Now this is what I'm talking about right here, Mr. E! This is what I call encouraging motivation. Me likes that booty on that female. I've bookmarked this page, so when the trip happens, you will be hearing from me.

Appreciate it!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1257278]You say you want to practice your Spanish and you want a girl with a big ass. Why not kill two birds with one stone? I know a girl here in Pattaya with a big ass who likes to practice her Spanish as well. I'll hook you two up when you get here.[/QUOTE]Thank you E. Once again. Excellent work bruh. Excellent, excellent, excellent. It is hard to find the thick / meaty (not fat / flabby) ladies there. Your posts provide the much needed proof. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1257240]I'm assuming you're joking as I never force anyone to do anything. I was in Pattaya for for 1 week and did 8 BR girls in the ass. The other few were standard FS. So far nothing in really great BKK but tonight is my last night so it will be good![/QUOTE]How much did they usually charge you for anal? How did you go about negotiating? Did you specify everything beforehand, or ask them once they were in the room?

In my experience, not many girls agree to it when asked beforehand ( 20%).

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1257241]What's up everybody!

First time poster in this forum, so wanted to write a few words. I'm a former Brazil fanatic who is stopping my travels due to higher costs. Sure you've heard it before, but it's just not worth the money to go there anymore in my opinion. Also did more than a few stops in Sosua, Puerto Plata, and Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, but even though I had some fun there, I'm still feeling unfulfilled.

I've been hearing a lot from other guys who loved Brazil about Thailand and how I should give it a shot. I've been reading a lot of the pages and I must admit that I like what I'm seeing. As a friend of mine told me who has been there, he told me to forget the high price of my ticket to get there ($1400) , because once I get there, everything else will be cheap as hell, so it all works out. Based on what I've read so far, that seems to be very true. Cheap hotel and pussy is at a very good price down there. Bottom line is that it just looks like I will have a lot of FUN down there. Sure, fucking is fun, so I had some fun in Brazil and DR, but damn, from what I'm seeing, it just seems like there's a constant party down there in Pattaya. All those clubs, all those women, and just a lot more shit to do. In DR, I found myself bored to death during the day, unless I was with a hot chick, but in general the area was boring. I'm a big MMA fan, so when I saw that I would also have the opportunity to see some Muay Thai fights down there, let's just say that's another feather in Pattaya's cap.

Now for my concerns, the numero uno, top notch concern that I have involves ASS. As a fan of huge asses, of course, that is the number one reason why I spent so much time in Brazil. Celebrity wise: huge fan of asses like the ones on Jennifer Lopez, Serena Williams, Jessica Biel, and Kim Kardashian, just to name a few. Most of the pics that I have seen tell me that if I'm hooked on a large ass and flat stomach, I don't need to come to Asia. However, I find Asian girls to be gorgeous! I think that up close and once I have one of these beautiful women in my room, I will be turned on. A beautiful face along with some DFK and good BJ skills will always make that happen. As for how the dick will react when telling the chick to put her small ass up in the air for some doggie style (a booty man's favorite position) , I don't know and won't know till I try it. Never had a tiny booty before. Tell you what, if I were to bump into an Asian with a plump (not fat) ass, I may not come back to America. LOL. Please tell me you've seen a few.

Only other concern is the lengthy flight and whether I can handle it. I'm 6'5 and 260 and not rich, so no way I'm paynig for a business class seat. More than likely I'm coming via Korean Airlines. If anyone has any knowledge as to whether it should be a comfortable flight, please let me know. Because of sports, I have a bad right knee. Don't want to suffer on a long flight.

Last concern are the ladyboys, which I understand are rampant down there, but I'm guessing that's a minor issue. I just need to do a little inspection before bringing a chick to my room, right? Scary to read that it's not easy to tell, but not hugely worried about it.

Anyway, I'll close in saying thanks for all the great reports, as I am strongly leaning towards getting a plane ticket for a 3 week stay in November. Only other city I'm thinking about is Costa Rica and that's only because I don't want all my Spanish that I've been busting my ass to learn to go to waste. However, I'm thinking that's not a good enough reason to bypass the LOS. Blowjob bars, REALLY? The menu at the DEVIL'S DEN. Do they really do all that, REALLY? Clubs upon clubs upon clubs!

Ok, time to read more reports. Paying for a membership tomorrow so I can see some pics. I hope to make a decision soon. If you have any feedback on any of my concerns, please feel free to address them. OK, take it easy guys![/QUOTE]My Advice. DO IT! You won't look back once you go.

I've been a long time traveler to the Dominican Republic and Central America. Met a guy in the DR in June '11 who had never been to Pattaya but always wanted to so As soon as I returned from my DR trip I decided WTF. You only live once. I booked a Sept '11 1 month trip the week I got back. My buddy joined me for our "virgin" trip to LOS and we had a blast!

I have been back This past January '12 for a 2 week trip, and am heading back next month April '12 for another 1 month holiday.

It's true Once you hit LOS, you will not want to go anywhere else. The prices are ridiculously cheap compared to Central America and the DR. I absolutely love it there. I am in my

Early 40's and am seriously considering buying property there for my future retirement.

From the Cocunut bar, beer bars, gogo's, BJ bars, Soi 6, Soapies, Cheap food prices. OMG.

As far as your flight. Korean is great for us "big guys" I'm 6, 1 245 and the economy seat suited me fine. Lots of legroom and width of chair is good. The FA's are a pretty sight also to spend a 10+hour flight to Seoul. Food was good and their AVOD system has more movies and shows than you will be able to watch.

3 weeks 2 days until I am wheels up for the Adult Disney world. GL in your decision

I would say that 25% will do anal on BR.

It may be more, but I get about a 25% "yes" response.

But, 90% will go Bareback. Many with Cum in pussy. Lots will go BB for 500 B. More for LT.

I always interview them and ask specific questions as to what they will do. Don't wait until you get back to the room.

I love finding a girl all alone late at night and I ask her what she will do and she answers "anything you want" and smiles.

I know then I have found a winner.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1257241]What's up everybody!

First time poster in this forum, so wanted to write a few words. I'm a former Brazil fanatic who is stopping my travels due to higher costs. Sure you've heard it before, but it's just not worth the money to go there anymore in my opinion. Also did more than a few stops in Sosua, Puerto Plata, and Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, but even though I had some fun there, I'm still feeling unfulfilled.

I've been hearing a lot from other guys who loved Brazil about Thailand and how I should give it a shot. I've been reading a lot of the pages and I must admit that I like what I'm seeing. As a friend of mine told me who has been there, he told me to forget the high price of my ticket to get there ($1400) , because once I get there, everything else will be cheap as hell, so it all works out. Based on what I've read so far, that seems to be very true. Cheap hotel and pussy is at a very good price down there. Bottom line is that it just looks like I will have a lot of FUN down there. Sure, fucking is fun, so I had some fun in Brazil and DR, but damn, from what I'm seeing, it just seems like there's a constant party down there in Pattaya. All those clubs, all those women, and just a lot more shit to do. In DR, I found myself bored to death during the day, unless I was with a hot chick, but in general the area was boring. I'm a big MMA fan, so when I saw that I would also have the opportunity to see some Muay Thai fights down there, let's just say that's another feather in Pattaya's cap.

Now for my concerns, the numero uno, top notch concern that I have involves ASS. As a fan of huge asses, of course, that is the number one reason why I spent so much time in Brazil. Celebrity wise: huge fan of asses like the ones on Jennifer Lopez, Serena Williams, Jessica Biel, and Kim Kardashian, just to name a few. Most of the pics that I have seen tell me that if I'm hooked on a large ass and flat stomach, I don't need to come to Asia. However, I find Asian girls to be gorgeous! I think that up close and once I have one of these beautiful women in my room, I will be turned on. A beautiful face along with some DFK and good BJ skills will always make that happen. As for how the dick will react when telling the chick to put her small ass up in the air for some doggie style (a booty man's favorite position) , I don't know and won't know till I try it. Never had a tiny booty before. Tell you what, if I were to bump into an Asian with a plump (not fat) ass, I may not come back to America. LOL. Please tell me you've seen a few.

Only other concern is the lengthy flight and whether I can handle it. I'm 6'5 and 260 and not rich, so no way I'm paynig for a business class seat. More than likely I'm coming via Korean Airlines. If anyone has any knowledge as to whether it should be a comfortable flight, please let me know. Because of sports, I have a bad right knee. Don't want to suffer on a long flight.

Last concern are the ladyboys, which I understand are rampant down there, but I'm guessing that's a minor issue. I just need to do a little inspection before bringing a chick to my room, right? Scary to read that it's not easy to tell, but not hugely worried about it.

Anyway, I'll close in saying thanks for all the great reports, as I am strongly leaning towards getting a plane ticket for a 3 week stay in November. Only other city I'm thinking about is Costa Rica and that's only because I don't want all my Spanish that I've been busting my ass to learn to go to waste. However, I'm thinking that's not a good enough reason to bypass the LOS. Blowjob bars, REALLY? The menu at the DEVIL'S DEN. Do they really do all that, REALLY? Clubs upon clubs upon clubs!

Ok, time to read more reports. Paying for a membership tomorrow so I can see some pics. I hope to make a decision soon. If you have any feedback on any of my concerns, please feel free to address them. OK, take it easy guys![/QUOTE]Whattup Windex Man!

Yo. I had the same concerns as you when I first heard about this place. Keep in mind it was Cats from Rio who told me about this place. Playas you prob kicked it with in Rio. Rest assured you'll feel right at home.

They definitely feeling Brothas down here. Soooooo much ass out here. And I was raised during the " Help era of 2006 till it closed ". So my standards were very high! I kick it mainly in the Discos, Lucifers, Walking St, Mixx, Insomnia, and Flexx!

You will definitely feel a " Help " vibe from those spots. And their Free! No entrance fee. And those are just the Discos! Bro, you got about a billion other spots to check out from Go-Go's, Massage Parlors (or Soapies) , side bars, Beach Road. , Walking St.

I guarantee you'll won't be " standing outside BORED at the Balcony Club "

I'm headn down there next mn. End of April for about a week. Then in early Dec for my 2 wk. Christmas Jump Off!

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1257818]Early 40's and am seriously considering buying property there for my future retirement.[/QUOTE]It is good to remember that foreigners can't buy land here but can buy a condo.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1257241]What's up everybody!

Only other concern is the lengthy flight and whether I can handle it. I'm 6'5 and 260 and not rich, so no way I'm paynig for a business class seat. More than likely I'm coming via Korean Airlines. If anyone has any knowledge as to whether it should be a comfortable flight, please let me know. Because of sports, I have a bad right knee. Don't want to suffer on a long flight.[/QUOTE]Ask about Premium Economy, it usually has an extra 6 inches of legroom and more recline on the seat, but not all airlines have it, Cathay Pacific should have by November, China Southern has it now. Alternative is to buy an economy seat and then go online to buy an exit row seat. Varies whether possible from airline to airline.

Pattaya is better in most respects then susua or boca chica. You are in 3D movie non stop.

Massage is great to.

The only problem is lack of MTV Models as you can meet in DR. You can find resonable looking girls.

If you look hard. But stop dreaming about rounded ass of tall girls.

Cambodia is not far away so it worth to visit while you in Pattaya.

One more problem, hard to get a girlfriend as opposed to africa.

I am shooting DSLR video, colors are everywar but can't find sexy girls to get one milion hits on youtube.

So nothing is perfect, for girls fans only DR And africa are better, much better. For everything else Pattaya wins vlearly.

Where is the best spot for daytime FL's? Are there any places like beer garden on soi 7 in BKK?

Thanks

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1257968]Ask about Premium Economy, it usually has an extra 6 inches of legroom and more recline on the seat, but not all airlines have it, Cathay Pacific should have by November, China Southern has it now. Alternative is to buy an economy seat and then go online to buy an exit row seat. Varies whether possible from airline to airline.[/QUOTE]Nowadays you can book your seat before purchasing the ticket online. Different airlines have different configuration. There are some seats way in the back with no seats in front of you. So you can stretch your legs.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1258043]Nowadays you can book your seat before purchasing the ticket online. Different airlines have different configuration. There are some seats way in the back with no seats in front of you. So you can stretch your legs.[/QUOTE][url]Www.seatguru.com[/url] Will give you all seat configurations for major airlines and their planes

[QUOTE=John Palmer;1257976]One more problem, hard to get a girlfriend as opposed to africa.[/QUOTE]It's very easy to get a girlfriend here. Ask any of the girls and they will tell you the difference between a customer and a boyfriend. A customer pays per episode. A boyfriend regularly sends money so that the girl can stay home or find work in something other than the sex industry. (I've heard a monthly stipend anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 baht being sufficient.) I prefer to be a friend, which means I fuck when I want and give money when I want and how much I think I should give them (generally 1000 for the first night and 500 for each additional night plus meals.) I let them come lay up in my comfortable bed and soak up A/C and watch TV and even feed them if they want to eat.

Got a stunner toay at one of the bars girls. Paid 1000bt all inclusive.

Agreed with that girl to shoot tomorrow a video clip for 3 hours. 1000 to her and 300 to the bar.

Hope it will worth to carry the DSLR, lenses, steadycam etc. Still I got my learning curve about pataya but seems promising

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1257819]I love finding a girl all alone late at night and I ask her what she will do and she answers "anything you want" and smiles.

I know then I have found a winner.[/QUOTE]That's between the hours of 2-5AM on Beach Road! .

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1257802]How much did they usually charge you for anal? How did you go about negotiating? Did you specify everything beforehand, or ask them once they were in the room?

In my experience, not many girls agree to it when asked beforehand (20%).[/QUOTE]If you really want CIM or pictures or anthing be sure to negotiate. I strongly recommend that you specify EVERYTHING that is important to you before you take one step with the girl. Last 20 year old girl did great pussy & ass fucking but did not want to do BJ. I was surprised but no problem, more ass fucking for me! I have had anal girls from 500 to 1500 baht and tipped from 0 to 1000 baht. You are the customer so you can choose what to pay and to tip or not.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1257241]What's up everybody!

Only other concern is the lengthy flight and whether I can handle it. I'm 6'5 and 260 and not rich, so no way I'm paynig for a business class seat. More than likely I'm coming via Korean Airlines. If anyone has any knowledge as to whether it should be a comfortable flight, please let me know. Because of sports, I have a bad right knee. Don't want to suffer on a long flight.

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I flew business class over but came back on economy. I took a Xanax on each of my 7 & 8 hour flights and slept comfortably the entire flight except to wake up & eat. There was no downside for me, just a wonderful relaxed sleep with no hangover or side effect. I suggest that you contact your private doctor and obtain a few pills legally for your travel. Of course, the pills are also available in pharmacies in Thailand without prescription for about 200 baht for 10 pills.

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[quote=how14;1258294]i'm assuming stfu is shut the fuck up right? that sounds like abuse, i'm sure jackson put a stop to this discussion, but as you opened it up again, ill reiterate what i said before its my opinion the girl looks ****. now iil go one better and not offer you a pm, but how about meeting me in person and telling me that to my face, i'm a regular in the dogs bollocks in soi 13, ask for manny.[/quote]how14, i will pm the girl's number to you. if you verify that i was in error i will sincerely apologize. until then, i maintin the girl was 20+ with a id card to back it up. if anybody else wants to "inspect" this girl, feel free to pm me for her mobile phone number too. i feel she is worthy of a through investigation front & back.

whoops, looks like i can't pm manny because he hasn't paid his $20 to jackson to become a member of isg.

anyone want to do a through investigation of the 20+ year old girl featured in post #9612 below? pm for her phone number or other anal girl's numbers featured in my reports.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1258049][url]Www.seatguru.com[/url]

Will give you all seat configurations for major airlines and their planes[/QUOTE]Will seatguru get me this kind of seat?

[url]http://myxxxcentral.com/2011/08/pilot-and-stewardess-new-members-of-the-mile-high-club/[/url]

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1258263]I flew business class over but came back on economy. I took a Xanax on each of my 7 & 8 hour flights and slept comfortably the entire flight except to wake up & eat. There was no downside for me, just a wonderful relaxed sleep with no hangover or side effect. I suggest that you contact your private doctor and obtain a few pills legally for your travel. Of course, the pills are also available in pharmacies in Thailand without prescription for about 200 baht for 10 pills.[/QUOTE]Really appreciate the responses and they helped convince me to go ahead and get a ticket! It's a done deal and I've got to see this place and yes, Sushilover, I will be getting that Xanax. LOL! I'll be flying Korean Air. Sort of disappointed that they have some sort of policy of me not being able to pick a seat until 30 days before the trip, but oh well, as soon as Oct 10 hits, I'll be on their website. I'll be in Pattaya for exactly 20 days.

Now it's time to make a decision on a hotel and based on how I like all the action to be right outside my doorstep (like I had it in Sosua, DR) , I'll be getting a place right on Walking Street. Penthouse hotel has some outstanding rooms and the idea of a club full of women being right downstairs from my room is motivating, but I want to be right in the middle of the major action! Again, you guys made that search easy by providing google maps and great reports.

Here we go! Thanks again

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1258498]Really appreciate the responses and they helped convince me to go ahead and get a ticket! It's a done deal and I've got to see this place and yes, Sushilover, I will be getting that Xanax. LOL! I'll be flying Korean Air. Sort of disappointed that they have some sort of policy of me not being able to pick a seat until 30 days before the trip, but oh well, as soon as Oct 10 hits, I'll be on their website. I'll be in Pattaya for exactly 20 days.

Now it's time to make a decision on a hotel and based on how I like all the action to be right outside my doorstep (like I had it in Sosua, DR) , I'll be getting a place right on Walking Street. Penthouse hotel has some outstanding rooms and the idea of a club full of women being right downstairs from my room is motivating, but I want to be right in the middle of the major action! Again, you guys made that search easy by providing google maps and great reports.

Here we go! Thanks again[/QUOTE]Hey Brother,

I stay at a little place called the SINBIN on Soi 13/3 it has a little bar down stairs but it has nice service with Breakfast and they are girl friendly, Hell you can even grab their staff if you want. The only thing to watch out they card all the girls and they have a spiral stair case but they are cheap and and clean and friendly and only maybe 10 meters from Beach road and very close to walking street. You can try FLB bar on walking street for some entertainment or beach road if you want quantity cheaper, But I found them girls are hairy. If you want I can PM you the email address and phone Number.

Take Care and have fun there and play it safe- and stay away from the jet ski rentals they ae a scam from the ThaiMafia

[QUOTE=The Windex Man]If I were to bump into an Asian with a plump (not fat) ass, I may not come back to America. LOL. Please tell me you've seen a few. * * * Only other concern is the lengthy flight and whether I can handle it. * * * Last concern are the ladyboys, which I understand are rampant down there, but I'm guessing that's a minor issue.[/QUOTE]I can't say that Pattaya will be equal to Rio when it comes to booty. But as you know, when some women gain a little weight it goes straight to their hips. Sad to say, but western food, especially fast food, is more prevalent than ever in Pattaya. And a few of the girls love them some KFC. If you are an Ass Man, the secret is to find one where the carbohydrate bomb is ticking, but it hasn't exploded. There are so many girls in Pattaya, that is pretty easy to do. At the risk of over generalizing, I think a fan of "thicker" girls would do well to spend time in the beer bar vice the go go clubs. The latter tend to hire more of the waifish, spinner types (albeit some with boob jobs).

Nobody likes a long flight, but it won't kill you. There are some things that I have found helpful. First, never book a two stop trip. No matter where you live, you can get to Bangkok on a one stop itinerary. Second, pay attention to layover times. I personally won't book anything where I spend more than about six hours at the connecting airport. Third, get into a premium lounge at the connecting airport. It REALLY helps to have a comfortable place to hang out during the layover. And if you can shower, even better. With a little online research you can identify lounges that offer "paid access." In my opinion, it's money well spent. Fourth, if possible schedule your flights to leave around midnight. I find it's easier to fall asleep on those flights. I also find it helpful to skip the meal offered right after takeoff and to abstain from any central nervous system depressants, like alcohol and sleeping pills. For me, that makes it easier to sleep. I realize other guys go in the opposite direction and party hard during their journey. YMMV.

The ladyboys are not hard to spot. They are rare in the go go clubs, but you might see some freelancing on Walking Street or in the environs around Soi LK Metro. On Soi 6 they are more prevalent, but again they are pretty obvious. If you're in doubt, just ask "Are you a lady?" If the answer is no, I like to act like I'm disappointed, with a big pout or a crying gesture. The implication being that the ladyboy is so totally hot that I was fooled and that I'm disappointed to learn the truth. Most of them take this as flattering and we part ways with a smile.

Life is short and it's up to you to make it sweet. Book your November trip now!

Bunky

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1258728]I can't say that Pattaya will be equal to Rio when it comes to booty. But as you know, when some women gain a little weight it goes straight to their hips. Sad to say, but western food, especially fast food, is more prevalent than ever in Pattaya. And a few of the girls love them some KFC. If you are an Ass Man, the secret is to find one where the carbohydrate bomb is ticking, but it hasn't exploded. There are so many girls in Pattaya, that is pretty easy to do. At the risk of over generalizing, I think a fan of "thicker" girls would do well to spend time in the beer bar vice the go go clubs. The latter tend to hire more of the waifish, spinner types (albeit some with boob jobs).

Nobody likes a long flight, but it won't kill you. There are some things that I have found helpful. First, never book a two stop trip. No matter where you live, you can get to Bangkok on a one stop itinerary. Second, pay attention to layover times. I personally won't book anything where I spend more than about six hours at the connecting airport. Third, get into a premium lounge at the connecting airport. It REALLY helps to have a comfortable place to hang out during the layover. And if you can shower, even better. With a little online research you can identify lounges that offer "paid access." In my opinion, it's money well spent. Fourth, if possible schedule your flights to leave around midnight. I find it's easier to fall asleep on those flights. I also find it helpful to skip the meal offered right after takeoff and to abstain from any central nervous system depressants, like alcohol and sleeping pills. For me, that makes it easier to sleep. I realize other guys go in the opposite direction and party hard during their journey. YMMV.

The ladyboys are not hard to spot. They are rare in the go go clubs, but you might see some freelancing on Walking Street or in the environs around Soi LK Metro. On Soi 6 they are more prevalent, but again they are pretty obvious. If you're in doubt, just ask "Are you a lady?" If the answer is no, I like to act like I'm disappointed, with a big pout or a crying gesture. The implication being that the ladyboy is so totally hot that I was fooled and that I'm disappointed to learn the truth. Most of them take this as flattering and we part ways with a smile.

Life is short and it's up to you to make it sweet. Book your November trip now!

Bunky[/QUOTE]Book with Thai Air. Non stop. Stay up for the first few hours, than drop a Zanax. Youll be waking up on final. Jump in taxi and be freshly hustling the streets by noon. And like he said, if Thai Air is too expensive, go EVA or Cathay that stops in Taipai with only 3 hr transit. Do the same Zanez trip on the first leg. I like getting a motorbike for looking around, but be really really fuckin careful. Look both ways a million times before any turn. Last time I was there Walking Street was so crowded you could barely move, but there were still lots of hot ones avail. Hit there at 8. M and don't forgt Shark Bar. Fine was 600, and short time was 1, 500. But like he said, its allot easier to check them out in the daytime in the open air beer bars. Youll see them along the first beach road, and along all those little connecting sois. Again easier on a murderbike, but if you're not experienced rider, better just baht bus it and walk.

[QUOTE=Bouncewithme; 1258008]Where is the best spot for daytime FL's? Are there any places like beer garden on soi 7 in BKK?

Thanks[/QUOTE]The most obvious answer is 'coconut bar'. Aka anywhere along beach road. It is open 24hrs, prices are fully negotiable, as are services.

IMHO the Pattaya beer bar and gogo ladies are not as hot as the Bangkok ones, but the FLs have the same range of attractiveness (especially in comparison to beer garden) , the prices are cheaper, and many ladies are a lot more liberal. On top of this it is relatively easy to choose and pick up a FL in very little time with no drinks involved, maximising P4P money and time.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1257802]How much did they usually charge you for anal? How did you go about negotiating? Did you specify everything beforehand, or ask them once they were in the room?[/QUOTE]Crocodile, I know this was aimed at Sushi, but I'll add my 2 cents. The FLs I picked up on Beach Road that did anal charged 1000 THB (or 500 THB without) and expected no additional tip.

My negotiating was: walk up to an attractive enough looking lady, smile, ask if she wanted to come back to my hotel. When not in earshot of other people (I don't want her to lose face) either on the walk or where I met her, I would ask for "photo?" and "bottom sex?" and offer money accordingly. I would not get into heated debate or haggling on the street. If the services / prices were not right, I would say "sorry, I look for another girl" and smile. The girls would generally smile back, and I would keep walking.

[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo; 1258834]Crocodile, I know this was aimed at Sushi, but I'll add my 2 cents. The FLs I picked up on Beach Road that did anal charged 1000 THB (or 500 THB without) and expected no additional tip.

My negotiating was: walk up to an attractive enough looking lady, smile, ask if she wanted to come back to my hotel. When not in earshot of other people (I don't want her to lose face) either on the walk or where I met her, I would ask for "photo?" and "bottom sex?" and offer money accordingly. I would not get into heated debate or haggling on the street. If the services / prices were not right, I would say "sorry, I look for another girl" and smile. The girls would generally smile back, and I would keep walking.[/QUOTE]Nice. The last time I was in Pattaya, I didn't notice any above average girls on Beach Road. Has the talent gotten better recently?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1258093]It's very easy to get a girlfriend here. Ask any of the girls and they will tell you the difference between a customer and a boyfriend. A customer pays per episode. A boyfriend regularly sends money so that the girl can stay home or find work in something other than the sex industry. (I've heard a monthly stipend anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 baht being sufficient.) I prefer to be a friend, which means I fuck when I want and give money when I want and how much I think I should give them (generally 1000 for the first night and 500 for each additional night plus meals.) I let them come lay up in my comfortable bed and soak up A/C and watch TV and even feed them if they want to eat.[/QUOTE]How do you find 'friends'? What is a workable 'duration'? I would be very happy to have a 'friend' for about 10 days. But I can't think why a BG would go for this, as they are very money orientated, or could earn more not changing their routine, especially if they are at least attractive. When I have tried this is is always (7*1500 + 7 * BF).

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1258728]I can't say that Pattaya will be equal to Rio when it comes to booty. But as you know, when some women gain a little weight it goes straight to their hips. Sad to say, but western food, especially fast food, is more prevalent than ever in Pattaya. And a few of the girls love them some KFC. If you are an Ass Man, the secret is to find one where the carbohydrate bomb is ticking, but it hasn't exploded. There are so many girls in Pattaya, that is pretty easy to do. At the risk of over generalizing, I think a fan of "thicker" girls would do well to spend time in the beer bar vice the go go clubs. The latter tend to hire more of the waifish, spinner types (albeit some with boob jobs).

Nobody likes a long flight, but it won't kill you. There are some things that I have found helpful. First, never book a two stop trip. No matter where you live, you can get to Bangkok on a one stop itinerary. Second, pay attention to layover times. I personally won't book anything where I spend more than about six hours at the connecting airport. Third, get into a premium lounge at the connecting airport. It REALLY helps to have a comfortable place to hang out during the layover. And if you can shower, even better. With a little online research you can identify lounges that offer "paid access." In my opinion, it's money well spent. Fourth, if possible schedule your flights to leave around midnight. I find it's easier to fall asleep on those flights. I also find it helpful to skip the meal offered right after takeoff and to abstain from any central nervous system depressants, like alcohol and sleeping pills. For me, that makes it easier to sleep. I realize other guys go in the opposite direction and party hard during their journey. YMMV.

The ladyboys are not hard to spot. They are rare in the go go clubs, but you might see some freelancing on Walking Street or in the environs around Soi LK Metro. On Soi 6 they are more prevalent, but again they are pretty obvious. If you're in doubt, just ask "Are you a lady?" If the answer is no, I like to act like I'm disappointed, with a big pout or a crying gesture. The implication being that the ladyboy is so totally hot that I was fooled and that I'm disappointed to learn the truth. Most of them take this as flattering and we part ways with a smile.

Life is short and it's up to you to make it sweet. Book your November trip now!

Bunky[/QUOTE]As for the booty, I heard from guys here as well as a couple of friends who loved Rio, exactly what you're stating. I understand that there won't be an over abundance of phat booty in Thailand, but with all the choices, I'm bound to find one or two or three. That are to my liking. As long as there's meat on the bones, I should be just fine. I've never banged a thin chick. Not that there's anything wrong with thin chicks. We just all have our preferences.

As for the plane ride, I agree with you that two stop itinerary is too much. I'll be down through Korean Air (I don't have an option for Thai Air where I'm from. Atlanta GA and Cathay is too expensive from here) and there's one stop in Korea and then it's straight to Bangkok. It would be outstanding if I can get something that will knock me out cold for the majority of the trip. Alcohol not an option, not a drinker. Benadryl for some reason, always seems to do the job, but an actual over the counter sleeping pill doesn't. WEIRD! I loved my trips to Rio airline wise because Delta would always leave around 10:30pm and arrive in Rio the next morning. Hell, that's my normal bed hours, so that was an easy ride for me. Korean Air won't be as easy as I'll be leaving at 1pm and arriving the following day at 5pm in Korea. Layover in Korean is only 1 hr and 40 minutes. Oh well, definitely seems like the trip will be worth it once I get there.

As for the ladyboy thing, I'll make sure to ask "Are you a lady?" once I learn me some Thai and I will learn some Thai. Hope I don't offend too many real chicks out there, but dammit, I can't take any chances. The only dick that will be in my hotel room is my own. No other dicks allowed and truthfully, I am not sure of what my reaction would be if I'm fooled and another dick is in there. I'm just being real about that shit. As for the language, I don't want to go there cold and know nothing, even though I'm sure I'll still have a good time. However, I'm reminded of the first time I went to the Dominican Republic and only knew about 10 different words in Spanish. Sure, I still had some good sex, but I like to have some sort of conversation with the chick, other than just asking how much and pointing at the chick's pussy. So, I'm definitely going to see if I can find me some Pimsleur Thai to help out. Rosettastone. Too fucking expensive!

Again, thanks for the advice!

[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1257925]Whattup Windex Man!

Yo. I had the same concerns as you when I first heard about this place. Keep in mind it was Cats from Rio who told me about this place. Playas you prob kicked it with in Rio. Rest assured you'll feel right at home.

They definitely feeling Brothas down here. Soooooo much ass out here. And I was raised during the " Help era of 2006 till it closed ". So my standards were very high! I kick it mainly in the Discos, Lucifers, Walking St, Mixx, Insomnia, and Flexx!

You will definitely feel a " Help " vibe from those spots. And their Free! No entrance fee. And those are just the Discos! Bro, you got about a billion other spots to check out from Go-Go's, Massage Parlors (or Soapies) , side bars, Beach Road. , Walking St.

I guarantee you'll won't be " standing outside BORED at the Balcony Club "

I'm headn down there next mn. End of April for about a week. Then in early Dec for my 2 wk. Christmas Jump Off![/QUOTE]Don't get me started on all the bullshit going on in Rio right now. High airline prices from Atlanta, Horrible exchange rate, club HELP is gone, Balcony is boring and the women are full of shit (150. 200 USD for all night. What you smoking?) , the Beach hoes are gone, Meia Pattaca restaurant full of families now instead of working girls and mongerers, high hotel rooms, and on top of all that, in my favorite club (4x4) , the women now have to wear clothing and can't walk around in g strings and bikini wear anymore! BLASPHEMY! That was the final straw man!

Yeah, your response is saying the words that I like to hear. It's definitely helpful to hear guys who have done the mecca of ass which is Brazil, give high praises to Thailand. It absolutely made my decision a whole lot easier to make. So long Rio, I have a STRONG feeling that after my November trip, I'll never see Brazil again. LOL! I'm just ticked that it took me this long to give Thailand a chance. Always was interested in a possible trip to the Phillipines, but Thailand was never an option. Oh well, hopefully better late than never.

[QUOTE=Keeniu;1258986]How do you find 'friends'? What is a workable 'duration'? I would be very happy to have a 'friend' for about 10 days. But I can't think why a BG would go for this, as they are very money orientated, or could earn more not changing their routine, especially if they are at least attractive. When I have tried this is is always (7*1500 + 7 * BF).[/QUOTE]I have taken several from Soi 6. 500 BF and negoitate with the girl. I pay usually 1500-2k a day. The great thing about it is you can take a test drive. Fuck her at the bar then negotiate for LT if you like her.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1259179]I have taken several from Soi 6. 500 BF and negoitate with the girl. I pay usually 1500-2k a day. The great thing about it is you can take a test drive. Fuck her at the bar then negotiate for LT if you like her.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I did. Talked her into coming over to my hotel the next morning for a round or two. We had a blast. Great girl.

[QUOTE=Hatguy;1259186]Exactly what I did. Talked her into coming over to my hotel the next morning for a round or two. We had a blast. Great girl.[/QUOTE]Awesome man. Glad you know like some of us what you are actually doing.

[QUOTE=Bonker04; 1255351]Thats a great idea! Pity I won't be in town for a couple of weeks. If your thinking of repeating this I would certainly attend if I'm around!

Have a great lunch![/QUOTE]Me too! I plan on being in area on 4/4 to 4/16, let me know if you are going to repeat!

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1259179]I have taken several from Soi 6. 500 BF and negoitate with the girl. I pay usually 1500-2k a day. The great thing about it is you can take a test drive. Fuck her at the bar then negotiate for LT if you like her.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but that test drive is 1000 bht, and is not included if you take her long time, so then your looking at a further 1, 500, possibly 2, 000 depending on your negotiating skills.

[QUOTE=Keeniu;1258986]How do you find 'friends'? What is a workable 'duration'? I would be very happy to have a 'friend' for about 10 days. But I can't think why a BG would go for this, as they are very money orientated, or could earn more not changing their routine, especially if they are at least attractive. When I have tried this is is always (7*1500 + 7 * BF).[/QUOTE]Of course people are very money oriented when you drop in and leave out just as fast. But I live here so it works a little different for me than for someone who only comes to visit a short time and the girl is never going to see them again. One friend who I met on Tagged last year came over the other night. She works at a bar and she also has a boyfriend. She taught me a new word the other night. The word is kik. It means a person who is just fucking another person on a regular basis with no money, no going out together, and no strings attached. She said since I didn't want to be a boyfriend because boyfriends have to take care of women and send them money then I can only be kik. It works for me. Ever since I have been going up to women asking if I can be their kik.

As for chicks who I meet in the disco or somewhere that I give money to then the first night is 1000. Not a satang more. I met a very special girl in the disco two nights ago. I will talk about it in another report. But she asked me how much. I told her 1000. She declined. I saw her last night and wrote my number on a napkin and told her to call me when she wants. She saw the light not even an hour later. She just left my place an hour ago (now it is 3pm). When I see her again I will move her down to 700 per night and eventually 500.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man;1259095]Don't get me started on all the bullshit going on in Rio right now. Horrible exchange rate, club HELP is gone, Balcony is boring and the women are full of shit (150. 200 USD for all night. What you smoking?) , the Beach hoes are gone, Meia Pattaca restaurant full of families now instead of working girls and mongerers, high hotel rooms,[/QUOTE]That is exactly why I moved from Rio to Pattaya. My rent more than doubled because of the exchange rate alone.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man;1259095]Always was interested in a possible trip to the Phillipines, but Thailand was never an option. Oh well, hopefully better late than never.[/QUOTE]You might want to check out the Philippines for a couple of days while you are over this way. A RT ticket on Tiger (SEAir) will only cost you about $120 from BKK. Beware though because they charge extra for baggage. I think the first 15kg is US$15, then every kg after that is like US$20. I used them coming back from the Philippines a couple of weeks ago. There were people at that ticket counter who were hot under the collar. I guess they didn't read the fine print. I had my scuba gear with me so of course I read the fine print when I was purchasing the ticket and prepaid US$30 for the sports equipment option. When the lady saw my bag was 25kg she said you have to pay extra. I said bull shit and showed her my ticket.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man; 1259095]Don't get me started on all the bullshit going on in Rio right now. High airline prices from Atlanta, Horrible exchange rate, club HELP is gone, Balcony is boring and the women are full of shit (150. 200 USD for all night. What you smoking?) , the Beach hoes are gone, Meia Pattaca restaurant full of families now instead of working girls and mongerers, high hotel rooms, and on top of all that, in my favorite club (4x4) , the women now have to wear clothing and can't walk around in g strings and bikini wear anymore! BLASPHEMY! That was the final straw man!

Yeah, your response is saying the words that I like to hear. It's definitely helpful to hear guys who have done the mecca of ass which is Brazil, give high praises to Thailand. It absolutely made my decision a whole lot easier to make. So long Rio, I have a STRONG feeling that after my November trip, I'll never see Brazil again. LOL! I'm just ticked that it took me this long to give Thailand a chance. Always was interested in a possible trip to the Phillipines, but Thailand was never an option. Oh well, hopefully better late than never.[/QUOTE]LOL Too funny! Beach hoes gone and the final straw, no more girls walking around the club in g strings.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1258093]It's very easy to get a girlfriend here. Ask any of the girls and they will tell you the difference between a customer and a boyfriend. A customer pays per episode. A boyfriend regularly sends money so that the girl can stay home or find work in something other than the sex industry. (I've heard a monthly stipend anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 baht being sufficient.) I prefer to be a friend, which means I fuck when I want and give money when I want and how much I think I should give them (generally 1000 for the first night and 500 for each additional night plus meals.) I let them come lay up in my comfortable bed and soak up A/C and watch TV and even feed them if they want to eat.[/QUOTE]I can't understand why guys would send money, if lets say they go back to the United Kingdom or something. I've heard most of these girls end up with multiple sponsors anyway and some will keep doing regular business also, so its not exclusive anyway, therefore it seems you're system makes far more sense.

[QUOTE=Leggy11;1259307]For me it's more of a Gig round and not kik which is more as in kick a ball to me. As per your understanding, more or less a 'Free Fuck Buddy, ' I have to disagree. For many the term relates to friends and has has nothing to do with fucking. Maybe in time you will come to have a better understanding and remember that in Thailand the same word can mean many things.[/QUOTE]I'm not claiming to be a master of the language. I'm just relaying how the term was explained and spelled to me by a native speaker right after I got through laying up in her.

About an hour ago I was out with a wingman and he asked me how well I knew Thai. I told him well enough to be able to fuck a non-pro. That was the end of that.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1259302]As for chicks who I meet in the disco or somewhere that I give money to then the first night is 1000. Not a satang more. I met a very special girl in the disco two nights ago. I will talk about it in another report. But she asked me how much. I told her 1000. She declined. She just left my place an hour ago (now it is 3pm). When I see her again I will move her down to 700 per night and eventually 500.[/QUOTE]ROFL! When I saw this, I just burst out laughing. Yes, this is how you do it man!

[QUOTE=Western787;1259342]I can't understand why guys would send money, if lets say they go back to the United Kingdom or something. I've heard most of these girls end up with multiple sponsors anyway and some will keep doing regular business also, so its not exclusive anyway, therefore it seems you're system makes far more sense.[/QUOTE]I can't understand it my damn self brother. The other night I picked up a girl who looks like Salma Hayek. I really had no idea she looked like her until we got to my place. I have known her for quite sometime, I have exchanged phone numbers with her, but had never taken her home. She informed me that she has known me for 2 years. She said she had a boyfriend but he knows she goes with guys. I take that it's an Arabic guy from the name on the texts between them. He had written and I was writing back acting like I was her. She complained about the phone saying she did not like it (iPhone 4S). I said well why in the hell did you buy it? She said her boyfriend made her get that one. A fucking 23000 baht phone. Guys are passing out money to hookers like they have an endless supply of it. Maybe they do, but I definitely don't.

[QUOTE=Leggy11;1259307]For me it's more of a Gig round and not kik which is more as in kick a ball to me. As per your understanding, more or less a 'Free Fuck Buddy, ' I have to disagree. For many the term relates to friends and has has nothing to do with fucking. Maybe in time you will come to have a better understanding and remember that in Thailand the same word can mean many things.[/QUOTE]It is pronounced neither "kik" nor "gig" but "gik" and it means "partner for casual sex; fuck-buddy". In the latin alphabet it is rendered "kik" but the first sound is less harsh than our "k".

See:

[url]http://www.thai-language.com/id/141986#def3[/url]

BTW, the sample sentences at that site are hilarious!

A gik is certainly not a friend or a lover: that translates to "faaen" or "pheuuan" or "mit" in Thai. (

[url]http://www.thai-language.com[/url]

[url]http://www.thai-language.com/id/131193/id/131221[/url]

[url]http://www.thai-language.com/id/133223[/url]

)

[QUOTE=Leggy11;1259417]There are non-pros in Pattaya? Sounds like you've cracked it then. Well done.[/QUOTE]Most "non-pros" in Pattaya that people talk about are girls who say they aren't pros (part timers / liars) or ex-pros. Every thai girl knows the score in Pattaya and will tell guys what she wants them to believe.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1259504]It is pronounced neither "kik" nor "gig" but "gik" and it means "partner for casual sex; fuck-buddy". In the latin alphabet it is rendered "kik" but the first sound is less harsh than our "k".[/QUOTE]This is correct. In addition, Thais use this word to describe a "special" relationship with a prostitute. Also, they use it to describe a "sugar daddy" kinda relationship where no sex is involved, but gifts are bought for the girl and or money it given.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1259479]A fucking 23000 baht phone. Guys are passing out money to hookers like they have an endless supply of it. Maybe they do, but I definitely don't.[/QUOTE]Unfortunatley, the longer you stay in LOS, the more you will see shit like this. There are way too many guys handing over way to much cash to these girls, not knowing how scandalous these chicks are. Guys send cash every month to their teerak thinking she is being a good girl, and in reality she's fucking me and you. Thai chicks will continue to cash in and naive guys will continue to get their hearts broken. The winners are the hardcore mongers who know the game and play it better than the whroes.

"" favorite club (4x4) , the women now have to wear clothing and can't walk around in g strings and bikini wear anymore! BLASPHEMY! That was the final straw man!"

Yo. Windex My Brother,

4x4, Monte Carlos, Centaurus, Barbarellas those aren't clubs in Pattaya. Each one of those are are full DISTRICTS! Complete with their own mayors, sport franchises, colleges, zoning laws. LOL!

Don't trip. Plenty of g h I j k l m o p and the rest alphabet Strings in this town. And you don't have to wear that Silly-Ass Robe like your about to pick up the paper in your driveway on Sat. Morning!

A short note about Bangkok. Met Jane in Beer Garten S-7. She is the smallest working girl I have ever met. I didn't take her, but chatted with her for a few minutes then I left. I am not fond of Bangkok. Now on to Pattaya.

Checked into Queen Vic and then decided to go down S 6 for a look. I went by Smoke & Kisses and saw Des the owner sitting there having a drink. I met him on my last trip and we stayed in the Bar along with a friend of his until 6:00 am. I talked with him only about a minute because Mook Da (something like that) grabbed me and wouldn't let go. OK I wasn't putting up much resistance. She said let's go in back where it is air conditioned. I was with her for about 20 minutes and had a very nice make out session with her. She said you a very good kisser and wanted me to take her upstairs for short time. She had my hand rubbing her pussy which was very wet. After a little of that, I told her I don't do short time and said I may come back to take you long time, but not now and then I left. Mook said she is 36 and is good looking and a very passionate kisser.

Next day, late afternoon, I headed down beach Road to see what potential was out there. I got to about Soi 8 and decided to go up to 2nd Road and get a ride back to Soi 6. I decided I would troll Beach Road again later. When I got about half way down the Soi, I heard some one say hey, hey, I know you. I looked over and it was Pam from my last trip. She said do you remember me, I said yes and went over to sit with her. She was looking hot as hell. We talked awhile and a friend of hers walked by with a customer and Pam put her arms around and yelled at her friend and said this is my boy friend. I just laughed. Pam works in Foxey Lady bar now and there are some ladyboys there also. She is a good woman. One who I would trust in any situation, but she likes me too much, so I may not bar fine her. I haven't seen Lek from my last trip, but she is another woman who I would trust. However, I spent too much time with her last time and she also got very clingy.

Next day, about 5:00, I decided to take a short nap. Well it wasn't so short. When I woke up it was close to 2:00 am. Now fully rested and nothing to do I decided to hit beach road again. I was surprised to see how many people were walking there and how many girls were out. Some were bar girls looking to get some customers after the bars closed. At that time in the morning, some of the girls I talked to wanted too much money for LT, so I kept looking. I got to Soi 8 and it looked like there were a lot of bars still open, so I wandered down and on my way Pam yells at me. She was going to get some food from one of the food carts. She told me her bar doesn't close. We went back to her bar for a drink and then I went back to Beach Road. Soi 8 has a lot of ladyboys and I was hit up by several, but just said no thanks and kept walking.

On Beach Road, I saw a girl who looked decent, so I talked with her for a few minutes and asked how much for LT. She said 1, 000 Baht. I wanted to know how long she would stay, since it was around 3:00 am. I was showing her my watch and she pointed to 8:00, then 11:00 & 12:00 and said up to you. I said 9:00 would be fine. She said her name is No and I think she said she is 36. That is the best I could understand. Back at the room, we shower and into bed. Not a real passionate kisser, but loves sex and has a nice puss. After round one, we rested a bit and then round two. Round three came about 10:00 am and we were out of there about 11:30. I would have been fine with her leaving earlier, but she needed sleep and I didn't. I asked her if she wanted to go to breakfast and she said yes. She wanted me to take her for my whole trip and I said no. She said how many days would I take her, I said I don't know. I told her I was going to get a phone and if she gave me her number, I may call. She acted like I wouldn't call her and made sure I wrote her number down. Not sure if I will call her again, but I may.

I saw something strange when No and I left the Queen Vic. We cut between the buildings to Soi 6/1 and there was a girl on her back on a curb that wasn't wide enough for her body. I don't know how she didn't roll onto the street. She had something covering part of her face and her high heel shoes were off next to her feet. She was wearing one of those stretchy type of dresses that seem to creep up easily. Well, it was up almost to her waist with no underwear and her puss was there for all to see. When I came back, she was still there, but the dress was pulled down a little. Later she was gone, but the shoes were still there. I guess nothing should amaze me in Thailand. Seen her again there several more times.

After No, I went to Tukcom and got a cheap phone. Then back to Soi 6 for a stop at a couple of bars and now in the room typing this report.

Next day I'm up early, and go for a walk down Beach Road. I get the look and smile from a girl who interests me, so I stop and talk with her (Kan). Unfortunately she doesn't speak much english and I don't speak Thai. Her friend helped with the conversation and I find out that she doesn't want to do LT. I said I don't mean now, but later and she said she couldn't. I tell her if I see her again I will stop and talk to see if her situation changes. I could tell she was really interested in me. Later I see her again and she is with a different girl. I stop and talk and find out she works in a bar off Beach Road between Soi 7 & 8. That means she is available for LT, I just have to pay BF. While we are talking, we have our hands wondering over each other and she tells me she used to work in massage shop and she would give me a good massage. I said don't worry baby, I will give you a good massage. She then kisses me and we are still rubbing our hands over each other. She said she would go in the morning with me for most of the day for LT. I said fine I will meet you tomorrow. We exchange phone numbers and I leave.

Later I wonder down Soi 3 to try to find a room that Pam told me about. She said it is decent and 800 Baht / night. I didn't find it, but was stopped by a lady outside a massage shop close to the end of the Soi near 2nd Road. I thought what the heck, I have time to kill. Her name is Mai and while massaging me she is playing with my testicles and on the flip wants to have boom boom. Now she is playing with my cock. My hands were doing some of their own roaming and there were some kisses mixed in. I told her I only do LT. I asked if she was interested in LT with me. She said I would have to pay the shop money and her or meet her after work at 11:30. I told her that I may meet her later and got her phone number. She wanted 1, 500 Baht for LT. If you are walking from Beach Road toward second Road, it is on the right side close to 2nd Road. They have nice private rooms with a real door and you can shower after. Mai came in the bathroom with me and stood in the tub while I stood next to the tub. There is a floor drain there and she, while clothed, soaped me up and rinsed me off. The shower was a nice bonus. I may go back there again whether I take her LT or not.

Met up with Kan in the morning about 9:20 as planned and went to my room. It was a slow start, but as she warmed up, she was great. Her kisses went from boring to really intense. I really enjoyed the part where she was on top horizontally not CG and pumping me hard. She was doing a lot of moaning. I was doing a little of that too. I could tell that this girl was starting to like me too much already. She left around 4:00 and I paid her 1, 500 Baht as previously agreed. I also bought her lunch, which was a nice little break in the action as we had three rounds during our time together. I like her, but I keep reminding myself that there are lots of other girls and some could be way better. Although, I think I will see her again.

Later in the evening, about midnight, I went for a stroll down Bch Road. I saw No again and she wanted to go with me. I said maybe some other time. She was unhappy with that, but I just kept walking. A little further on, I spotted Mai (not massage girl) and took her LT for 1, 000 Baht. She was the worst girl I have had so far in Thailand from two trips. No drama, but nothing interesting in the sack and not as responsive as most girls. Your experience may be different as with any of the girls I have reported on. I just know I won't do her again. I would have offered to buy her breakfast, but not after that experience. I am glad I didn't make that part of the deal. I will have to remember to not make any extra offers until after the experience proves worthy. She used to work in a bar in Soi 4, but the bar closed. She speaks decent english and has lighter skin than some of the others I have been with. Although I have not been with any black or really dark skinned girls.

After Mai left, I go to breakfast and Kan calls and wants to see me again. That 's one of the pitfalls of exchanging numbers. Although she was good, I wasn't ready to do her again so soon. I made the mistake of spending too much time with too few girls the last trip and they get clingy. Kan was already there. I told her I couldn't meet today and not the next day, so I told her that I would call when I am ready. It is difficult communicating with her due to her lack of english and my total lack of the Thai language. She has a friend help with the communication, but even that is difficult.

All of the girls I have taken so far have asked me right from the start if I have condoms. Of course I have them (over 70 of them). I take them out of the boxes a put them in quart size zip lock bags and then just grab a bag and put it by the bed when I have a girl there. Good to see these girls are looking out for their health. That makes me feel better being with them. I could tell you where I picked up the Beach Road girls, but there seems to be no pattern to where they hang out. I have seen No in two different locations and when I first met Kan, she was closer to Mike's Mall and then later, closer to Soi 6. You just have to do your own hunting. There seems to be girls available on Bch Road around the clock. I enjoy the hunt almost as much as the conquest. Just as a note: I first started mongering in foreign countries in 1990 and got laid every time and every trip I discovered more opportunities. There were no mongering web sites in those days that I knew of. I didn't even own a computer until the year 2000.

In between the girls I have reported on, I have also talked with a number of other bar girls. Nam from Good Fellows (Soi 6) is a sweet girl and a good kisser as I have had a few drinks with her on various visits there. Nok from Quickie bar (Soi 6) is another sweet girl. She is a tiny girl, but has a little gut on her. She said she is 29 years old. One morning she was drinking from a jumbo beer bottle. I played pool with a girl on Soi 7 across from Anna Jet bar. There were others from Soi Diana, Pattaya Klang & WS and more, but don't remember them all. The best kisser so far is still Mook Da from Smoke & Kisses (Soi 6).

This morning I am walking down Soi Honey from Buakhao and I notice a real good looking girl on the left side of the road and she is waving at me as I am walking toward her. I decided to go for a message with her. The only thing about her that didn't interest me is her big boobs and they are real. The rest of her looked so good I didn't care about the boobs. We get started and I aks her about extras and she said for sex it is 1, 000 baht and that includes the message. I said OK since she was a good looker. The sex was good, but I won't do her again, only due to the endless other opportunities available. While we are in the process, we hear a ladyboy with a customer near us. Only curtains separating customers. Most of the message shops I have seen have at least one ladyboy. Some customers must be asking for them. Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but didn't notice that on my last trip. I had other messages including foot messages, but no sex until this last one. Soi Honey seems to have some good lookers.

I have about two and a half weeks to go in Thailand, so I will report more later. I will also include some info about accommodations and more comments and observations.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1259657]So what? Been happening for years dating back to the Vietnam War and will continue after you and I have left these shores. Don't worry and focus on your thing. The free women, you brag about, and those you pay but less than the going rate.[/QUOTE]LOL. Only amateurs need to brag.

"He who truly knows has no occasion to shout.". Leonardo the Vinci

[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1259747]LOL. Only amateurs need to brag.

"He who truly knows has no occasion to shout.". Leonardo the Vinci[/QUOTE]"Knowledge is power" Sir Francis Bacon.

The more insights the better.

[QUOTE=Sangkid;1259657]The free women, you brag about, and those you pay but less than the going rate. No wonder the quality left in Pattaya is so poor. I say congratulations to the guys spending big bucks on the girls and you should as well. Guys spending big bucks means quality girls will return and you my friend just might pick up a few freebies with a bit of quality.[/QUOTE]What exactly is the "going rate?" When I was new in Pattaya paying girls on Beach Road 500 baht was I paying the "going rate?" Or am I actually paying the going rate now since someone in the forum mentioned that the girls would go for 300 or 400 baht and I have been paying that price? Many people come to Thailand and realize that the first price is not the final price and have no qualms with bargaining, where there are others who insist on paying the first price and adding a tip.

You can buy a BMW in the USA for $86000 or you can buy it in Thailand for $425000. Does that mean the one in Thailand of better quality? No, because it is the same fucking car but someone somewhere has figured how to get more money out of you for the same thing. There are some who are smart enough to go around a jack tax while there are others who are not as smart or who have more money than brains.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/541134-millions-lost-in-tax-revenue-over-imported-cars-thailand/

And how are you defining "quality girls" and where do you assume they all went?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1259823]What exactly is the "going rate?" When I was new in Pattaya paying girls on Beach Road 500 baht was I paying the "going rate?" Or am I actually paying the going rate now since someone in the forum mentioned that the girls would go for 300 or 400 baht and I have been paying that price? Many people come to Thailand and realize that the first price is not the final price and have no qualms with bargaining, where there are others who insist on paying the first price and adding a tip.

You can buy a BMW in the USA for $86000 or you can buy it in Thailand for $425000. Does that mean the one in Thailand of better quality? No, because it is the same fucking car but someone somewhere has figured how to get more money out of you for the same thing. There are some who are smart enough to go around a jack tax while there are others who are not as smart or who have more money than brains.

[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/541134-millions-lost-in-tax-revenue-over-imported-cars-thailand/[/url]

And how are you defining "quality girls" and where do you assume they all went?[/QUOTE]I'd assume with all the posts you have you would know all the answers to the questions your asking. 500 bht is, and always has been the going rate on Beach Road.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1259747]"He who truly knows has no occasion to shout.". Leonardo the Vinci[/QUOTE]"Knowledge is Power. Guard it well!" (Blood Raven's Battle Cry)

[QUOTE=YG365;1258893]Nice. The last time I was in Pattaya, I didn't notice any above average girls on Beach Road. Has the talent gotten better recently?[/QUOTE]Purely guestimated figures: 95% were untouchable (<5) .4% were alright. Cute (between a 5 and 7) , the remaining 1% were atractive to fairly hot (between 7 and 8. 5). I do think my standards lowered for Pattaya and Beach road considerably. As the pics and vids of the Bangkok girls were generally much hotter (though they were mainly gogo girls).

I found the gogo girls in Pattaya to mainly be between 5 and 7. 5 (I may have just been unlucky, and in on bad days) ; so I took a lot more FLs. Way better in the bang to buck ratio. I couldn't believe the difference in looks between Baccara Soi cowboy and Baccara Walking St.

[QUOTE=Alx 1994;1259202]Me too! I plan on being in area on 4/4 to 4/16, let me know if you are going to repeat![/QUOTE]I am up for an ISG Pattaya catch up if it is happening over easter time.

[QUOTE=How14;1259930]I'd assume with all the posts you have you would know all the answers to the questions your asking. 500 bht is, and always has been the going rate on beach Road.[/QUOTE]RUBBISH.

Maybe in recent years, but up until around 5/6 years ago, one could always pull a Beach Road girl for 300bt, and before that 200bt was possible!

[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1260491]RUBBISH.

Maybe in recent years, but up until around 5/6 years ago, one could always pull a Beach Road girl for 300bt, and before that 200bt was possible![/QUOTE]Yes but he's not talking about 5/6 years ago, he's on about now, and yes you can get some at 300bht, he asked about the going rate, and the going rate is and always has been 500bht, so who's talking rubbish?

[QUOTE=How14;1260692]Yes but he's not talking about 5/6 years ago, he's on about now, and yes you can get some at 300bht, he asked about the going rate, and the going rate is and always has been 500bht, so who's talking rubbish?[/QUOTE]Agree and disagree.

500bt IS the current going rate, (so far as I am aware) but it most clearly has not ALWAYS been that. You introduced the past into the discussion by saying "always has been"! I am merely correcting that statement!

[QUOTE=How14;1260692]Yes but he's not talking about 5/6 years ago, he's on about now, and yes you can get some at 300bht, he asked about the going rate, and the going rate is and always has been 500bht, so who's talking rubbish?[/QUOTE]I posed the question to the troll to point out that sure they will ask for 500, but most will accept 300 or 400. So why would I or anyone else who isn't playing 2 week millionaire pay or feel guilty about not paying the original asking price of 500 when we know damn well that they accept less? So there is in fact not a particular "going rate", but a "going range" instead. Don't get bent out of shape with me when I am able to agree with them at the bottom end of the range while you insist on paying at the top end.

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[QUOTE=Sangkid;1259848]As far away as possible from the tight ass penny pinchers priced out of Brazil I would imagine. Quality, well you certainly won't find any on the Beach Road. Tax, where are we going with this? You can do a tax return fantastic. People with money might want to spend it on girls. They might enjoy it. Let them. So what if they have more money than brains. The more of those coming here the better for you and me as we might get the girls back who were here ten years ago. Not the same actual girls but the same standard. Not sure if you were here 10 years ago so you will have no idea. Maybe you think todays girls are the normal standard. They are not. They are well below what they used to be. The best thing for Pattaya will be for the exchange rates to sort themselves out making Brazil the favored destination again for many people.[/QUOTE]Hey Clown,

You are calling out a World Traveler, such as Mr Enternational, in comparison to your limited dumb ass traveled ass such as yourself. As far as your extensive posts, you are nothing but negative concerning the present Pattaya, as if you really knew what Pattaya was like 30 years ago. I was there in 1978 and still believe that Pattaya is the mongering capital of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, if you had one or two positive posts, not negative as you always have, people might pay more attention to your posts. But at this point, you are pretty much a joke and useless to this forum!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1260850]Hey Clown,

You are calling out a World Traveler, such as Mr Enternational, in comparison to your limited dumb ass traveled ass such as yourself. As far as your extensive posts, you are nothing but negative concerning the present Pattaya, as if you really knew what Pattaya was like 30 years ago. I was there in 1978 and still believe that Pattaya is the mongering capital of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, if you had one or two positive posts, not negative as you always have, people might pay more attention to your posts. But at this point, you are pretty much a joke and useless to this forum![/QUOTE]Hey 78,

Tom you are a lucky, lucky man.

In 1978 Pattaya must have been full of stunners and the numbers reversed to 9-1 in favor of stunners. And those 9 would have taken far better care of you than the non-stunners do today. Not just sexually how many times did they give you a manicure or massage as well unprompted? Do they do that today? Today it's 9-1 in favor of non-stunners and the question is where have they gone, why and will they come back?

Where, I'm not sure. Singapore?

Why, I've already explained this.

Will they come back? I don't think so. Pattaya has become a 3rd star working girl City being filled with guys hell bent on bringing the price down and proud when they make a 200 Baht saving on the second night because the girls are enjoying air con and TV. Really? Pattaya needs a few big spenders to offset the increasing numbers of people not willing to spend. Girls prefer money not air con and TV. How can that help feed their families up country? Even the so called non-pros.

Apologies for not being positive but these are the facts. I've watched the down turn for 20 years and not just two minutes.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1260850]Hey Clown,

You are calling out a World Traveler, such as Mr Enternational, in comparison to your limited dumb ass traveled ass such as yourself. As far as your extensive posts, you are nothing but negative concerning the present Pattaya, as if you really knew what Pattaya was like 30 years ago. I was there in 1978 and still believe that Pattaya is the mongering capital of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, if you had one or two positive posts, not negative as you always have, people might pay more attention to your posts. But at this point, you are pretty much a joke and useless to this forum![/QUOTE]The [b][I]ignore [/b][/i]function is your friend.

SunLover