Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1173501]Sosua is pussy party town, an open brothel.

Who can expect a quiet candle lit dinner in the biggest monger hotel? LOL.

There's other places for that.[/QUOTE]You do not know what you are talking about. There is no bigger monger hotel than BB's in Costambar but you can go into the restaurant area and have piece of mind, same as NG usually, and certainly at nighttime. The point was that if the owner of the hotel puts linens on his tables in his restaurant every night in his monger hotel and is having dinner in the restaurant along with a few customers and friends it is incomprehensible that anyone would be rude enough, lack the common sense or be just plain stupid enough to walk into said restaurant and blast ear piercing music. Maybe it was you, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Drlawyer; 1173728]You are guys are not appreciating the big picture. Its not about you, but about Sosua's continued existence as a monger destination.

There are many many forces at work from feminist do gooders, to politicians, to general haters, to higher end investors, who would love nothing more than to shut Sosua down as a monger destination.

In an ideal world, we can all walk around and say that race doesn't matter, that one guy's "gettin' pussy" and acting up doesn't affect the next man's ability to do so. But in Sosua, that is not the case. Each and every monger should take it upon himself to respect the people, the ladies, and the place. By doing so, we ensure that the place stays viable for everyone for a long time.

Don't be selfish. Just because there is prostitution doesn't mean one can disregards all basic decorum and "home training" as we used to say. Take care of Sosua, and it will take care of you. Treat it like a cum dump and shithole, and the forces of evil will shut it down eventually. Do not make the place an open air brothel.

To those Black guys out there who offended, don't be. Just try and understand that some of the nonsense that some engage in is seriously offensive to many. I actually remember when NG was a decent place to stay. Now its been turned to an open air brothel. Not a good look. Go out, have fun, handle our biz but a little respect and discretion go along way.

No body is hating on race specifically, but on behavior as well. Are some judged more harshly than others? Sure, but that's not anything we are new to. Be aware and have some respect.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it better myself, thank you.

The key point here is respect. Respect the culture, your foreign environment and you will reap rewards. When I started mongering, I was fortunate to meet some cool guys who basically taught me the basics, then I discovered ISG. There are members on this board (Jao) and other forums who will bend over backwards to help and provide information to newbies. Sosua, (never been) from what I've heard and read, is a very small mongering oasis in DR, where there are no secrets. So yes, unlike a big city like Rio word travels very fast. Again never been to Sosua but we all know what happened to HELP.

I might get flamed for the next point but I am not hearing anyone / old school mongers trying to reach out to these newbies. Why not simply introduce yourself buy him a presidente and explain to him the benefit of respecting the girls and being discreet? If rebuffed, come here and flame away but there are some who will take your advice and pass it along, then voila! Everyone wins! Just my two pesos gents

Happy mongering.

Have anyone seen the prices to SDQ lately? Geez! Taxes and fees are 20-30 percent of the costs.

Key lessons learned early in my mongering travels

Be discreet and don't attract attention (no flashy clothes/jewelry)
Learn the language and the culture
Tip the locals and treat people well (doormen/security guys and little kids)
Treat the women with respect unless they act like hoodrats

I am planning to monger in Sosua for the first time in August for first time with bunch of friends. Is it still safe and fun for a newbie to enjoy his first trip (like Pattaya in Thailand)? Thanks for the advice.

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1173746]I am planning to monger in Sosua for the first time in August for first time with bunch of friends. Is it still safe and fun for a newbie to enjoy his first trip (like Pattaya in Thailand)? Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]Yes! You'll have a blast. Sosua is not dead. Although some on this board will be quick to disagree.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1173722]Just sayin, there's quiet restaurants next door to NG. Who in their right mind would take his family to the NG for dinner, with all those mongers and putas carrying on?[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to start an argument and forgive me if my post came of "nasty." But I think you should go back and read Manizales911's original posting. No one is talking about taking their family to dinner at NG. Mani was talking about his experience while staying at NG (as a monger). But I still do not agree with you; as a paying guest I should not have to go to a "quiet restaurant next door" just because some asshole wants to blare his music [b]in the dining area[/b] while I am eating breakfast at the hotel I am paying my money to stay at (as if I didn't get enough of blaring music the night before at Classicos or passing by El Flow). But maybe it's not the idiots fault; I blame the management there for not making him go back to his room with that crap or else pack his shit and find someplace else to stay. Terra Linda would never put up with that bullshit and I don't believe Wilfred would have either if he was still at NG.

And why should I have to go to another restaurant when breakfast is free at NG (and damn good too!)?

This is live from the front-line within the last hour from a newbie in Sosúa (1. 30 am Thursday morning) :

"At classicos now with XXXX and the bunch. God, Sosúa sucks, only 30 girls to each guy. Dear God, I'm glad it's cleaned up, if this is what you call 'cleaned up', because I'd be dead of a heart attack if it was any better".

Only one guy's view (and to be honest he is prone to exaggerate) but it illustrates the point I have been making about not discouraging newbies from coming. How far Sosúa has fallen from real or imagined better times is irrelevant for them. This guy has been having a ball all week and is already planning his next trip. He couldn't care less about when High Caribe was open or when chicas were 500 for TLN, etc, etc.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1173802]This is live from the front-line within the last hour from a newbie in Sosúa (1. 30 am Thursday morning) :

"At classicos now with XXXX and the bunch. God, Sosúa sucks, only 30 girls to each guy. Dear God, I'm glad it's cleaned up, if this is what you call 'cleaned up', because I'd be dead of a heart attack if it was any better".

Only one guy's view (and to be honest he is prone to exaggerate) but it illustrates the point I have been making about not discouraging newbies from coming. How far Sosúa has fallen from real or imagined better times is irrelevant for them. This guy has been having a ball all week and is already planning his next trip. He couldn't care less about when High Caribe was open or when chicas were 500 for TLN, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]That's good to know. Headed down soon with three ex Brazil guy's I met in CR, with a BBL guest appearance. Summertime party. The Miami, ex Brazil guy's are rough, strickly sport fucker's. Nothing like watching a newbie get loose.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1173752]I'm not trying to start an argument and forgive me if my post came of "nasty." But I think you should go back and read Manizales911's original posting. No one is talking about taking their family to dinner at NG. Mani was talking about his experience while staying at NG (as a monger). But I still do not agree with you; as a paying guest I should not have to go to a "quiet restaurant next door" just because some asshole wants to blare his music [b]in the dining area[/b] While I am eating breakfast at the hotel I am paying my money to stay at (as if I didn't get enough of blaring music the night before at Classicos or passing by El Flow). But maybe it's not the idiots fault; I blame the management there for not making him go back to his room with that crap or else pack his shit and find someplace else to stay. Terra Linda would never put up with that bullshit and I don't believe Wilfred would have either if he was still at NG.

And why should I have to go to another restaurant when breakfast is free at NG (and damn good too!)?[/QUOTE]I can understand Manizale's perspective and his experience is not unique. The last time I stayed at New Garden there was a group who came down to breakfast every morning and every other word was a curse, bragging about what they did with a chica, the night before. After a while I simply did not come down to eat breakfast. They played the music so loud that after several days I started complaining and before I could even open my mouth management knew what I was about to say (I guess I was not the only one complaining).

I was hanging around the Black Box, at the beach, and bumped into Willifried. I described what happened, and my hangout buddy added to the conversation. Willifried responded that this was a problem when he was at New Garden and in the morning he would approach the guys, suggesting that they should keep it down. The guys were pretty cool about it and they listened. Savepro is right—it is about the management. This was an issue with Terra Linda and they made it a point of keeping the noise level down. They go out of their way to discourage this type of clientele from staying at their hotel.

Lorenzo's own friends (and by this I mean his personal friends from Italy) were complaining to me about the noise!

This has been an issue not only at New Garden and Terra Linda but also Seabreeze, Europa, and Casa Valeria (just to name a few of the places!).

These guys are like everyone else in that they are having a good time. I can understand. I would be more concerned if these rebel rousers were violent but to my recollection I have yet to see these guys pick a fight with anyone! Violence, over noise, would be more of a concern to me.

I agree that most of these guys are African American with some Puerto Ricans in there, yet I still find this to be a small group considering most of the guys I hang around with are hard working people who just like to relax and search out chicas. These rebel rousers make up less than 50% (It probably would be more accurate to say less than 25%). They might stand out more because of the noise but so would a clown in a group of priests. It does not mean all the priests are clowns! Let us face it guys, most of the blacks and Puerto Ricans who go to Sosua are pretty laid back and great guys to hang out with. Most of the mongers, no matter what race, are great guys to hang out with. They go there, have a couple of drinks, enjoy the sights, and pick up a chica! It is only a small, but noticeable number who are loud.

I have seen an Indian act out (at Blackbeards) , some Turkish guys acting ridiculous (at El Candil in Boca Chica. It was funny since they were driving the staff insane and the old owner, and his assistant, could not stand them!) and a Caucasian or two acting loud (at Rockys, while eating with a group of guys) and the list goes on and on. They come in all shades and colors but most noticeable are the small number of Blacks and Latinos in the states who decide to stand out.

This is why we go on vacation—guys. We mess with the chicas and in between we hang out at the beach, have a good meal, and sleep well at night. If it was just about screwing chicas, while everything else was bad (loud music while eating and one cannot sleep because people are yelling all night!) than it would not be much of a vacation! I don't know about you guys but if I do not get a good sleep at night I am not a happy camper when it comes to dealing with chicas.

Loud music has it's place (the discos, the beach) but sometimes we all want some peace and quiet.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1173805]That's good to know. Headed down soon with three ex Brazil guy's I met in CR, with a BBL guest appearance. Summertime party. The Miami, ex Brazil guy's are rough, strickly sport fucker's. Nothing like watching a newbie get loose.[/QUOTE]I like that term sport fuckers. I have been guilty of that charge at times.

[quote=savepros321; 1173752]i'm not trying to start an argument and forgive me if my post came of "nasty." but i think you should go back and read manizales911's original posting. no one is talking about taking their family to dinner at ng. mani was talking about his experience while staying at ng (as a monger). but i still do not agree with you; as a paying guest i should not have to go to a "quiet restaurant next door" just because some asshole wants to blare his music [b]in the dining area[/b] while i am eating breakfast at the hotel i am paying my money to stay at (as if i didn't get enough of blaring music the night before at classicos or passing by el flow). but maybe it's not the idiots fault; i blame the management there for not making him go back to his room with that crap or else pack his shit and find someplace else to stay. terra linda would never put up with that bullshit and i don't believe wilfred would have either if he was still at ng.

and why should i have to go to another restaurant when breakfast is free at ng (and damn good too!)?[/quote]you and mani got me all wrong.

i'm a very quiet conservative older white guy, with a regular novia. except for the first night or so where we let off a bit of harmless steam catching up with friends and family, we're usually in bed by 10 pm. we are known as a stable couple and always welcomed in hotels and condos that usually frown on the chica / monger scene. we respect our hosts, and they respect us, and treat us like old friends. to use gg's expression, we fly as far under the radar as a obvious gringo / chica possibly can.

now to the point.

we go to the bars when we want a little action, loud music, dancing, whatever. we go to the quieter places to eat. there's a choice for every mood.

last time in sosua, we bumped into the "boyz" in classicos. they took over the club and eventually we moved on. we bumped into another "crew" at the casa cayenna bikini contest. same thing, they took over the whole scene (and the chica contestants). now that is not my style, but they were having a good time, paying their way, and never, ever did i or my novia feel in anyway threatened, they're all laughing and smiling and too busy doing their thing to worry about anybody else.

the only hassles i've ever had (and reported here) came from newbie mongers (white) who see us well connected, having a great time, and me with a beautiful devoted chica and her amigas, and want to hang with us. they feel because we stay at the same hotel sometimes, they can pull up a chair and join us. same old, same old, we find out that they are assholes, cannot take a hint, so eventually the only way to get rid of them is to leave the table, or even worse eventually tell them to fuck off. i don't need to spend my precious time down there avoiding some asshole who now doesn't like me, becuase he thinks that i think we are better than him. i don't even have that problem with the local dominicano hustlers, we smile, chat briefly, they move on.

bottom line is sosua is the place to do your thing, whatever it is. you're not a prisoner in some club or bar, move on to the next.

folks here complain about everything. too many hookers. not enough hookers. town too quiet. town too noisy.

some folks spend too much of their valuable time worrying about what other peeople are doing, than getting on with their own business.

everybody wants to make sosua over in their own ideas of what it should be.

it is what it is. enjoy it and don't complain if someone else's idea of a good time is not exactly yours. we're all visitors and don't make the rules, so leave that to the owners. let them figure it out.

I have been enjoying the animated discussion: it is quite interesting to note that the "circumscribed" world of this forum is as much part of the bigger world reflecting all that passes in the outside world. It is very nice to see most people here are truly sensible. They can ignore an occasional transgression and are kind and accepting of others. I remember going to Asia a decade ago and have a steely blue-eyed older Northern German as my companion (but better, Guru) in Jakarta and Bangkok and hearing about tree-lined streets in Bangkok in the seventies. When he started visiting, if you can imagine that. Which I am sorry I missed out on. I guess change is inevitable. I personally lament the crassness I see in the media that then becomes fashionable which the older viewers will lament. The newer ones will not know that the lament is all about and life will go on.

On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo

[quote=oakie; 1173893]bottom line is sosua is the place to do your thing, whatever it is. you're not a prisoner in some club or bar, move on to the next.

folks here complain about everything. too many hookers. not enough hookers. town too quiet. town too noisy.

some folks spend too much of their valuable time worrying about what other peeople are doing, than getting on with their own business.

everybody wants to make sosua over in their own ideas of what it should be.

it is what it is. enjoy it and don't complain if someone else's idea of a good time is not exactly yours. we're all visitors and don't make the rules, so leave that to the owners. let them figure it out.[/quote]that's a very "passive" way at looking at things, but maybe it is because i am an american. if we happen to be in town at the same time i'll be sure to let others know that it is perfectly okay (with you) to crank the shit out of their music at your table during breakfast, lol.

carry on.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1173907]On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo[/QUOTE]I presume you left the obvious one, the New Garden, off your list because you don't fancy the frat party environment there? If so, you might want to consider D'Piero, which is chica friendly but is also used by families so everyone is more discreet than at, say, the New Garden. Note that recently, guests there have complained about the noise from the construction work going on at Passions (which D'Piero backs onto), so you if you want quiet check that is over and done with before you book.

Another popular hotel is Seabreeze. They all have their advantages and disadvantages.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1173907]I have been enjoying the animated discussion: it is quite interesting to note that the "circumscribed" world of this forum is as much part of the bigger world reflecting all that passes in the outside world. It is very nice to see most people here are truly sensible. They can ignore an occasional transgression and are kind and accepting of others. I remember going to Asia a decade ago and have a steely blue-eyed older Northern German as my companion (but better, Guru) in Jakarta and Bangkok and hearing about tree-lined streets in Bangkok in the seventies. When he started visiting, if you can imagine that. Which I am sorry I missed out on. I guess change is inevitable. I personally lament the crassness I see in the media that then becomes fashionable which the older viewers will lament. The newer ones will not know that the lament is all about and life will go on.

On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo[/QUOTE]Casa Valeria allows you to bring chicas to / from your room. But no hanging with chicas on balcony / patio or at pool. Nice looking place. Great restaurant which is very chica friendly.

First two trips I stayed at the New Garden which had a frat party atmosphere.

Last two trips stayed at D'Piero's. In late June there was construction going on at the hotel and behind it. Not very quiet

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1173938]I presume you left the obvious one, the New Garden, off your list because you don't fancy the frat party environment there? If so, you might want to consider D'Piero, which is chica friendly but is also used by families so everyone is more discreet than at, say, the New Garden. Note that recently, guests there have complained about the noise from the construction work going on at Passions (which D'Piero backs onto) , so you if you want quiet check that is over and done with before you book.

Another popular hotel is Seabreeze. They all have their advantages and disadvantages.[/QUOTE]SEABREEZE was a nightmare for me. JIHAD is a great host and tries though. Hot Secretary, Free HOOKAH once in a while. Rooms are TINYYYY, like closets. NOISY as fuck, LOUD pool parties at all hours and some bros where naked in the pool with their chicas and walking around naked (talk about Mandingo) scary shit hahahaha LOL. You get just as much noise from the fucking motoconchos pasing by at all hours as you do from the pool party music. Never again there.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1173944]SEABREEZE was a nightmare for me. JIHAD is a great host and tries though. Hot Secretary, Free HOOKAH once in a while. Rooms are TINYYYY, like closets. NOISY as fuck, LOUD pool parties at all hours and some bros where naked in the pool with their chicas and walking around naked (talk about Mandingo) scary shit hahahaha LOL. You get just as much noise from the fucking motoconchos pasing by at all hours as you do from the pool party music. Never again there.[/QUOTE]Well, if it is like that these days it sounds as if it is not for our friend Tempoecorto. Thanks for your input.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1173938]I presume you left the obvious one, the New Garden, off your list because you don't fancy the frat party environment there? If so, you might want to consider D'Piero, which is chica friendly but is also used by families so everyone is more discreet than at, say, the New Garden. Note that recently, guests there have complained about the noise from the construction work going on at Passions (which D'Piero backs onto) , so you if you want quiet check that is over and done with before you book.

Another popular hotel is Seabreeze. They all have their advantages and disadvantages.[/QUOTE]You guessed right! I want to be "invisible": relax, do my own thing at my own pace and not have to deal with aggravating factors if I can help it. (smiley)

I have written to D'Piero (thanks, for the suggestion by the way) but have not heard back so far. I will check Seabreeze now. One obvious question: Terra Linda stands out in this group for price. Is there any fire underneath or is it only smoke. I noted others' comments on noise.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1173907]I have been enjoying the animated discussion: it is quite interesting to note that the "circumscribed" world of this forum is as much part of the bigger world reflecting all that passes in the outside world. It is very nice to see most people here are truly sensible. They can ignore an occasional transgression and are kind and accepting of others. I remember going to Asia a decade ago and have a steely blue-eyed older Northern German as my companion (but better, Guru) in Jakarta and Bangkok and hearing about tree-lined streets in Bangkok in the seventies. When he started visiting, if you can imagine that. Which I am sorry I missed out on. I guess change is inevitable. I personally lament the crassness I see in the media that then becomes fashionable which the older viewers will lament. The newer ones will not know that the lament is all about and life will go on.

On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo[/QUOTE]Casa Valeria allows you to bring chicas to / from your room. But no hanging with chicas on balcony / patio or at pool. Nice looking place. Great restaurant which is very chica friendly.

I stayed twice at the New Garden which had a frat party atmosphere.

Also stayed twice at D'Piero's. In late June there was construction at the hotel and behind it. Not very quiet.

Terra Linda is a very nice looking & quite motel. $60 is a good deal. I have gotten quotes of from $69 to-$89 a night.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1172866]Well, we can just agree to differ. I urge newbies to read all the threads on all the boards and make up their own minds whether they can get better value (taking all their outlay into consideration) anywhere else. If they think they can, let them go there and report back to us.

I have no personal interest in encouraging people to visit Sosúa. Quite the opposite. I don't run a business there and I own no property there. There is still the same number of chicas needing or wanting to make money. Sure, the haitianas were thinned out for a bit, but have been coming back in numbers for some weeks, and the dominicanas haven't gone anywhere. They are just hungrier. So with the same number of chicas but far less tourists (because of the purge and the usual seasonal factors) , it follows that prices will drop. And that is indeed what is happening. And if the trend continued, the same would apply to bars and restaurants eventually. My close friends either live here or will regularly return. So, taking a selfish view, if the number of mongers visiting greatly declined, it would be to my personal advantage. But I would hate to discourage any newbie hesitating to come and stop them having the time of their life as is being reported by guys week after week. And they don't have to pay Passions or Blackbeards prices either.

I like your use of the word "pontificating".[/QUOTE]In late June the normal responses to my offers of 1000 pesos for ST and 2000 for TLN was 'let's go'. Only a few made a counter offer I'm not a negotiator. I would simply respond with 'you have been standing / sitting here for over an hour and I'm the only one to show any interest. The competition will grow as it gets later. I offered a fair price'. In the end ALL accepted my original offer.

[quote=tempoecorto; 1173952]you guessed right! i want to be "invisible": relax, do my own thing at my own pace and not have to deal with aggravating factors if i can help it. (smiley)

i have written to d'piero (thanks, for the suggestion by the way) but have not heard back so far. i will check seabreeze now. one obvious question: terra linda stands out in this group for price. is there any fire underneath or is it only smoke. i noted others' comments on noise.[/quote]well, terra linda is far more upscale than the others in terms of the physical plant. bigger pool, nicer furnished rooms, newer, etc and probably also in terms of clientele. relatively speaking, think of seabreeze as a motel 6 or super 8, and terra linda as at least as nice as a marriott courtyard or hilton garden inn. if motel 6 is your speed, seabreeze will be ok.

one pretty nice, newer, if quiet, place you left out is the el rancho, which is around the corner from seabreeze. i started out my last trip at seabreeze and was looking to move into something better. el rancho would have been my 2nd choice, but i got offered a good deal at terra linda since they had available rooms right at the time. i was also looking for something more laid back than the new garden.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1173907]

On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo[/QUOTE]You will not go wrong with Terra Linda. Awesome restaurant and food, the bartenders know how to mix drinks very well, nice rooms and quiet atmosphere. At 5pm they have (or did have)"happy hour" in where chicas could come lounge by the pool if they buy a drink. Don't bother with the King-sized rooms unless you don't mind lugging your shit up three flights of stairs.

Sometimes the "weekend crew" take over the sound system around the pool towards the end of the week, but I never minded it because the play pure Old Skool Hip Hop, but they usually shut it down around 8pm. No frat-type atmosphere and you can also have your food delivered to your room (menus are in everyroom and you can order by phone). Wi-Fi was sporadic last time I stayed, but may have improved since then.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1173907]On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo[/QUOTE]Delfin $30.

Coco $25.

Romanoff $30.

Voramar $30.

Etc, etc.

There are any number of places, many of which are never discussed on this board. It all depends on what you are looking for. At a place like Terra Linda with a full service restaurant and bar, you might end up spending a lot of money on site, which is fine, especially if you want to entertain chicas, and all that. This, of course, is what makes Blackbeard's resort profitable. On the other hand, if you get a place with a kitchen and fix your own food, then that is another story altogether.

Other factors you might consider are the general ambience, type of pool if you like swimming, noiseness and traffic depending on whether you enjoy the sound of racing motorbikes at 3 a. M. Or the sound of music, your fellow hotel guests, proximity to places of ill repute or the beach, closeness to supermercado or liquor store, Wi Fi, Internet availability, and a few other factors. There is no need to book ahead at this time of year. I would take a look at a place first and suss out the general ambience before you plonks down your money.

PM me if you wish, I am in Sosua or nearby for several weeks and could give you a tour of Ye Olde Towne.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1173907]On a practical note: I am trying to fix a hotel in Sosua. Here is the present bunch offer per night after I wrote to them. Please comment based on your experience of the place / s, the value proposition including the NOISE factor.

Casa valeria $45

Terra Linda $60

Don Antonio $40

Perla de sosua $30

My understanding is that all are Ch-friendly but please rectify just in case.

Thanks always,

Tempo[/QUOTE]I was looking at the Terra Linda last night for my stay in August. These are the prices off their Web site:

Our guestroom rates are as follow:

King: $89US (1 adult).

King: $99US (2 adults).

1 Queen: $69US (1 adult).

1 Queen: $89US (2 adults).

2 Queen: $99US (2 adults).

So if I get a King for $89 (1 adult) , does it change to the (2 adults) price if I have a girl stay over?

Feel free to chime in, because I'm curious.

Sosua Bay is one of best values, right on water, across from After One Disco, free breakfast. Not sure if the 55 a night cash rate is still going.

Stay away from El Rancho it sucks!

Girlfriendlyness aside, each of us looks for different attributes in a hotel: quite a few want a pool, most need wi-fi, some can't do without a Jacuzzi.

My own 2 requirement are:

- as close as possible to the prime location for nighttime action without being noisy.

- a private in-room safe.

I've only been to Sosua once before, and Casa Valeria (considering the cost) did it for me big time.

You never see it mentioned here, possibly because those mongers who stay there like to keep it under the radar.

With this said, I just made reservations for what will be my second trip to the north cost: Sosua, I'm coming!

Ryo

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1173998]I was looking at the Terra Linda last night for my stay in August. These are the prices off their Web site:

Our guestroom rates are as follow:

King: $89US (1 adult).

King: $99US (2 adults).

1 Queen: $69US (1 adult).

1 Queen: $89US (2 adults).

2 Queen: $99US (2 adults).

So if I get a King for $89 (1 adult) , does it change to the (2 adults) price if I have a girl stay over?

Feel free to chime in, because I'm curious.[/QUOTE]They won't charge you unless you are checking the girl in with you, like as if you were a couple (say for instance she came with her luggage also). The King (2 adults) and Queen (2 adults) is what that is referring to.

The 2 Queen (2 adults) are actually two twin Queen-sized beds in one room, but damn, $99 dollars? I never remember it being that expensive!

The 1 Queen 1 adult should be perfect for most mongers. Just tell your wing man to get his own damn room, LOL. And no, they will not charge you for bringing guest (chicas) even if she spends the night. If you show up at the check-in counter upon arrival to Sosua with a chica (like if she was waiting for you at the airport) just be sure to let them know that she is not staying with you (not your girlfriend or wife) and you should be fine.

Can't thank you all enough, for giving so much time to a complete stranger! Had a lot of feedback on all sorts of hotels in that neck of the woods.

Well I am a cheapskate and will settle when I see a value proposition. Unfortunately of course, until you have stayed at a place, you do not get to see the true picture-in good and in bad. Well!

Some of the usual places like New Garden will be a no-no. College days are long, long gone. Sadly! . I love music (no hip hop though. Love reggaeton. In the discos. Great grinding music if you know what I mean) but not first thing in the morning either. (smiley).

So, beach, beer, book but the most important one starts with a "C" and, give me a "h" and.

Un saludo!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1174071]Can't thank you all enough, for giving so much time to a complete stranger! Had a lot of feedback on all sorts of hotels in that neck of the woods.

Well I am a cheapskate and will settle when I see a value proposition. Unfortunately of course, until you have stayed at a place, you do not get to see the true picture-in good and in bad. Well!

Some of the usual places like New Garden will be a no-no. College days are long, long gone. Sadly! . I love music (no hip hop though. Love reggaeton. In the discos. Great grinding music if you know what I mean) but not first thing in the morning either. (smiley).

So, beach, beer, book but the most important one starts with a "C" and, give me a "h" and.

Un saludo![/QUOTE]Oh! You thought all that info was free? Wait till you see your bill on your creditcard from all the people who gave you info.

You just paid for our next trip. So I would like to say thanks. LMAO.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1174069]They won't charge you unless you are checking the girl in with you, like as if you were a couple (say for instance she came with her luggage also). The King (2 adults) and Queen (2 adults) is what that is referring to.

The 2 Queen (2 adults) are actually two twin Queen-sized beds in one room, but damn, $99 dollars? I never remember it being that expensive!

The 1 Queen 1 adult should be perfect for most mongers. Just tell your wing man to get his own damn room, LOL. And no, they will not charge you for bringing guest (chicas) even if she spends the night. If you show up at the check-in counter upon arrival to Sosua with a chica (like if she was waiting for you at the airport) just be sure to let them know that she is not staying with you (not your girlfriend or wife) and you should be fine.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind the rooms vary in quality at the Terra Linda big time! First time stayed there had ground floor near the stairs a double queen, room was awesome. 2nd time had room on 2nd floor room sucked, paint falling off walls, a / see worked but only on or off no temperature control, a king bed not even Sea Breeze quality. Check your room before you pay if possible.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1173922]That's a very "passive" way at looking at things, but maybe it is because I am an American. If we happen to be in town at the same time I'll be sure to let others know that it is perfectly okay (with you) to crank the shit out of their music at your table during breakfast, LOL.

Carry on.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I won't be sitting there listening to it. If passive is leaving them to it, and moving on, then that's me.

I don't condone bad behaviour, and I don't put up with it either. But I always leave the complaining to the guys that are experts at it. Besides, its the owners who make the rules (and the money) If they can't figure it out, why should I care?

But get in my face or mess with Princessa, and even at my advanced age, I won't hesitate to throw a punch (if there's a good chance somebody will rush in and seperate us before I get hurt. LOL)

Life's too short to spend my vacation getting myself all worked up about bad puta service, hustlers, bar tab ripoffs, taxi ripoffs, bad car rentals, poor wi fi, bad behaviour around a hotel full of mongers and putas, crooked cops and lack of sleep, which are reported here regularly.

Funny, none of that stuff ever happens to me.

Wonder why?

But stick to your "American" ideals, good buddy, You just might be able to change the world, even Sosua. LOL

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1173952]You guessed right! I want to be "invisible": relax, do my own thing at my own pace and not have to deal with aggravating factors if I can help it. (smiley) .[/QUOTE]Sounds like me a couple of years ago, when I first came here.

As you see there's lots if good info and advice from the guys here. I spent my first few nights at the Casa Valeria, and it's exactly as described in the other posts. The big advantage is that it is good value (Dutch) clean and only around the corner from all the action. No transportation required.

Its a good base for checking out what Sosua has to offer, and a short walk will take you past the other hotels mentioned here, so you can check them out for your next trip. (I'm betting there will be another trip)

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1174069]The 1 Queen 1 adult should be perfect for most mongers. Just tell your wing man to get his own damn room, LOL. And no, they will not charge you for bringing guest (chicas) even if she spends the night. If you show up at the check-in counter upon arrival to Sosua with a chica (like if she was waiting for you at the airport) just be sure to let them know that she is not staying with you (not your girlfriend or wife) and you should be fine.[/QUOTE]Thanks SavePros,

I always travel solo, so the wing man won't be an issue. I thank you for clearing that up. Last trip in April, Jenny at the NG gave my reserved room to someone else. Yes, I was pissed, but Jenny is too fucking cute to slap around.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1174071]Some of the usual places like New Garden will be a no-no. College days are long, long gone. Sadly! . I love music (no hip hop though. Love reggaeton. In the discos. Great grinding music if you know what I mean) but not first thing in the morning either. (smiley).[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the NG three times within the last year, and did not have any trouble with the noise, frat parties, and such not. I did have a problem once with room reservations, but it was corrected as necessary. I do like the staff and the service has always been excellent. So I personally would not write off NG on the hotel list. But it is your list, so have at it.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1174204]I've stayed at the NG three times within the last year, and did not have any trouble with the noise, frat parties, and such not. I did have a problem once with room reservations, but it was corrected as necessary. I do like the staff and the service has always been excellent. So I personally would not write off NG on the hotel list. But it is your list, so have at it.[/QUOTE]Also, depending on where you stay, you might want to check your balcony doors and make sure they lock correctly. This may not be an issue for everyone, but I changed rooms one time because the lock was broken and I saw that someone could enter my room through the balcony. The balconies are connected so a person could get on my balcony from another room. In general, I've been happy with the rooms and the service there. There were guys in the morning that would come down to brag about their escapades, but I just blocked out the noise. The breakfast is good, although I don't consider it free but rather built into the cost of the room, so I try to make every breakfast and each as much s possible.

My first time contemplating a trip to Sosua. Is Labor Day weekend worth the trip? Or hurricane season kills the atmosphere?

Lex

[QUOTE=Lex460; 1174228]My first time contemplating a trip to Sosua. Is Labor Day weekend worth the trip? Or hurricane season kills the atmosphere?

Lex[/QUOTE]Labor day weekend is definitely worth the trip! Never had weather issues during Sept but keep an eye on the weather patters in case anything big happens. Due to weather patterns any Tropical Storms and things like this seem to hit the South Coast when they come. Read the forum, have a good time, don't overpay just because you're on vacation during labor day. haha Many "rainmakers" in Sosua during labor day weekend! lol

The breakfast that is included with the price of your room@NG, is it a buffet? Do you order off a menu? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1174275]The breakfast that is included with the price of your room@NG, is it a buffet? Do you order off a menu? Thanks![/QUOTE]Good breakfast and included in your room rate. There's a menu if you want more than the basics.

When I stayed next door at Casa Valeria, their waiter would always come in late and not get the coffee going till 8. 20, so I would walk up to NG. For those who need that early java fix the NG is definitely the place to get a good, cheap breakfast. Had to remind them though that I was not staying there, otherwise they'd never bring me a bill.

Circa 2009 anyways.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1174275]The breakfast that is included with the price of your room@NG, is it a buffet? Do you order off a menu? Thanks![/QUOTE]Not a buffet. You order off a limited menu. The food is excellent but limited but that is to be expected when it is "free". A sampling of availability from my lousy memory:

Eggs.

French toast.

Omelet.

Pancakes.

Homefries.

Fruit.

Juice.

Coffee.

Bacon.

Sausage.

Pussy. Haha only kidding

[QUOTE=Lex460; 1174228]My first time contemplating a trip to Sosua. Is Labor Day weekend worth the trip? Or hurricane season kills the atmosphere?

Lex[/QUOTE]Hurricanes almost never hit the north coast, I think there has been one in thirty years. If you think about it a hurricane would have to pass to the north of the island and then turn and go south, hurricanes don't do that as a general rule.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1174200]Thanks SavePros,

I always travel solo, so the wing man won't be an issue. I thank you for clearing that up. Last trip in April, Jenny at the NG gave my reserved room to someone else. Yes, I was pissed, but Jenny is too fucking cute to slap around.[/QUOTE]I agree Jenny is cute but she could fuck up a wet dream. Dumb as a stump, why Lorenzo puts up with her is beyond me.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1174275]The breakfast that is included with the price of your room@NG, is it a buffet? Do you order off a menu? Thanks![/QUOTE]No its not a buffet. Either eggs, homefries, and bacon or sausage. Also french toast. Juice, coffee and fruit also is standard. Friday evening they have a wonderful dinner buffet.

Usually I leave a 50 to 100 peso tip. But the last two trips I started tipping an American dollar. We have a tendecy to not realize that 50 pesos is more than a dollar because it looks like monopoly money. Being I paid 640usd for my flight last week, my very generous tipping habits will be more reasonable from now on.

Hello, dear friends,

I am thinking of coming to DR this September for a week.

I am a first timer in DR and in need of information.

I am a single male (36yo) coming to have some fun get some sun etc'

Like most single males that comes to DR I am looking to practice safe sex with some lovely beautiful Dominican ladies (I prefer quality over numbers and I am willing to pay a little extra to get it).

I am not a party guy so I rather not hang around bars and disco for long than I have to find what I came for.

If I can do some scuba diving it can be cool (but not a must)

I speak basic + Spanish and can handle myself.

Location; I am thinking Sausa but after the police action I don't know.

How is Puerto Plata? I can arrange a 24 USD per night at the "Be live " not including food.

Or. Santo domingo, but am opened to other suggestions.

Thanks

Sun is shining. Maybe someone will make it rain later.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1174313]We have a tendecy to not realize that 50 pesos is more than a dollar because it looks like monopoly money.[/QUOTE]Ain't that the truth, LOL!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1174078]Oh! You thought all that info was free? Wait till you see your bill on your creditcard from all the people who gave you info.

You just paid for our next trip. So I would like to say thanks. LMAO.[/QUOTE]He He! (Smiley)

[QUOTE=Frannie;1174342]Sun is shining. Maybe someone will make it rain later.[/QUOTE]So, Rainman is not very popular here. (smiley)

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1174275]The breakfast that is included with the price of your room@NG, is it a buffet? Do you order off a menu? Thanks![/QUOTE]To give you an idea, I uploaded a pic of my typical NG breakfast. I always received excellent service and never tipped. In general, I don't tip in the DR because I found that most places I've eaten at include a service charge of 10% in the price of the items, or this charge was added onto my final bill. Since the cost of breakfast is already built into the cost of the room, I assumed the service charge was as well.

For newbies, IMO, if you receive good service and you feel like providing something extra, it will certainly be appreciated by the person (s) who provide you with the particular service. A dollar or two US, or about 10% of the cost of the service, is the norm, depending on the service you are provided.

Here is the pic

[QUOTE=Bennn; 1174317]Hello, dear friends,

I am thinking of coming to DR this September for a week.

I am a first timer in DR and in need of information.

I am a single male (36yo) coming to have some fun get some sun etc'

Like most single males that comes to DR I am looking to practice safe sex with some lovely beautiful Dominican ladies (I prefer quality over numbers and I am willing to pay a little extra to get it).

I am not a party guy so I rather not hang around bars and disco for long than I have to find what I came for.

If I can do some scuba diving it can be cool (but not a must)

I speak basic + Spanish and can handle myself.

Location; I am thinking Sausa but after the police action I don't know.

How is Puerto Plata? I can arrange a 24 USD per night at the "Be live " not including food.

Or. Santo domingo, but am opened to other suggestions.

Thanks[/QUOTE][b]I am a first timer in DR[/b]

Once you write that, there are only two options, Blackbeards and Sosúa. I don't think there is any scuba near to Blackbeards (someone please correct this if wrong) and you have basic plus Spanish so it's a no brainer.

Why do you think what you call "the police action" would negatively impact your holiday? (I assume you are not planning to indulge in drugs or under-age girls?)

I note that you don't want to spend time in bars and discos hunting chicas (to many here the chase is a large part of the enjoyment, but each to his own). You are not on a strict budget so you can afford point-and-click at Passions. Plenty of choice there unless you are fixated on fair-skin chicas (ugh!) in which case you might be better off in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1174432]Here is the pic[/QUOTE]As nice as Terra Linda is, their free breakfast sucks ass compared to the free breakfast at NG. Wasn't enough to make me change my mind to going back to staying at NG though. I just walked my ass to Bailey's most mornings, LOL.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1174432]Here is the pic[/QUOTE]Good photo, that breakfast pic put my mind in Sosua mode, more than any of the recent posts.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1174430]To give you an idea, I uploaded a pic of my typical NG breakfast. I always received excellent service and never tipped. In general, I don't tip in the DR because I found that most places I've eaten at include a service charge of 10% in the price of the items, or this charge was added onto my final bill. Since the cost of breakfast is already built into the cost of the room, I assumed the service charge was as well.

For newbies, IMO, if you receive good service and you feel like providing something extra, it will certainly be appreciated by the person (s) who provide you with the particular service. A dollar or two US, or about 10% of the cost of the service, is the norm, depending on the service you are provided.[/QUOTE]The 10% surcharge does not go to the servers even when the establishment says it does. Your servers in the DR make about $200. A month woking six days a week so quit being such a cheap f*k and tip a little, WTF.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1173802]This is live from the front-line within the last hour from a newbie in Sosúa (1. 30 am Thursday morning) :

"At classicos now with XXXX and the bunch. God, Sosúa sucks, only 30 girls to each guy. Dear God, I'm glad it's cleaned up, if this is what you call 'cleaned up', because I'd be dead of a heart attack if it was any better".

Only one guy's view (and to be honest he is prone to exaggerate) but it illustrates the point I have been making about not discouraging newbies from coming. How far Sosúa has fallen from real or imagined better times is irrelevant for them. This guy has been having a ball all week and is already planning his next trip. He couldn't care less about when High Caribe was open or when chicas were 500 for TLN, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]Was in Sosua for July 4 holiday. All is well. Classicos was an absolute zoo Saturday night. During day, plenty of talent walking around. Rumba full. El Flow full. Sosua Life and D'Latinos packed late at night.

The rumors are pre-mature. You can find anything you want. Sadly Shark Bar has been closed for months. Dust on floor, bar and seats. Seacrets gone. Heard PJs and Happy Bar going.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1174440]As nice as Terra Linda is, their free breakfast sucks ass compared to the free breakfast at NG. Wasn't enough to make me change my mind to going back to staying at NG though. I just walked my ass to Bailey's most mornings, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at both places. I like a glass of milk with my breakfast. The girls at the TL did not charge me (45 pesos) , so I started leaving a 100 peso tip. The breakfasts seem the same. Hot and decent.

Again as cheap as food is, I cannot believe that anyone would cook in while they were there. However, I really think everyone should do what they want. That is doubly so while on vacation in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Beagle0030;1174469]I have stayed at both places. I like a glass of milk with my breakfast. The girls at the TL did not charge me (45 pesos) , so I started leaving a 100 peso tip. [b]The breakfasts seem the same. Hot and decent.[/b][/QUOTE]Thank you for your opinion on the matter. If they seem the same to you, that's great! But (judging by the title of your original post) I think I am entitled to my opinion as well; they don't "seem" the same to me. Sorry. To me it just seems that the cook at NG puts more time and effort into making the breakfast. The breakfast at TL seems like something you would get from the drive-thru at McDonald's.

[QUOTE=Beagle0030;1174469]Again as cheap as food is, I cannot believe that anyone would cook in while they were there. However, I really think everyone should do what they want. That is doubly so while on vacation in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I don't even know where you were going with this one. What is "cook in while they were there"?

Maybe I should just start ending all my post with "IMO".

Gentlemen! My apologies for taking so long to respond to some of yaw comments. Been trying to talk to God aka Jackson the past few days about why my last post was flag but I guess Gods a busy man cus my prayers of a presidente chillin on a beach with a big titty dominicana sitting on my lap nor questions about specifically why my post was flag never got answered. In any case I'm going to repost my last post and hope that God see that I wasn't argumentive at all to anyone and hopefully he doesn't strike me down for a sin that I didn't commit.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1173305]Sir Coolie,

Though I agree that the "make it rain" crews that roll through Sosua doesn't hurt anyone's chances to get pussy it can make one uncomfortable and annoyed. I am caucasion and far from racist but I will in fact categorize that certain group of guys that go to Sosua and act like assholes, it just happens that these guys for whatever reason happen to always be African American, why that is I don't know. Believe me I have seen plenty of gringos from all parts of the world show up and act like idiots but that doesn't mean that the "make it rain" crowd doesn't exist, it does and we all know it.

For example, on my last trip to Sosua I was sitting in the restaurant in Sosua enjoying my dinner when a young man with his hat on crooked, wife beater and pants hanging down to his knees came into the restaurant area with a boombox set it on a table and cranked the shit out of it, making every patron in the place extremely uncomfortable including Lorenzo who was having dinner with his wife, child and some of his friends. He and his friends proceeded to sit there and shoot their filthy mouths off about all the things that they did with different girls that day. Now I know the NG is a mongers hotel but there are times where a person should know to close their fucking piehole and not put a boombox on a dinner table. At the NG it is obvious when it is considered dinnertime in the restaurant area because they put linens on the table but this clown could have given a shit. The whole time this was going on I was hoping Lorenzo would grow a set of balls and tell this mofo to pack up and get lost but he didn't and this assbag did the same thing the following night.

Just my 2 pesos[/QUOTE]Manizales911,

No doubt the make it rain crowd does exist and it's not goin anywhere no time soon. I see it all the time here in Vegas where people from all races, and culture come to the club spend 10 thousand dollars on a table and start throwing money in the air but just like anywhere I go when I see these catz make it rain I pay it no nevermind. Let them over pay for pussy and be the suckers. If they want to pretend like money isn't important then so be that but I like yourself know the value of a dollar and I be damn if I go and just throw it in the air just to impress some hoes. I rather spend my dollars on a broad getting on her knees serving me while I'm in my Captain Morgan pose LOL.

And as far as the guy with the boombox I would've went up to dude and ask him nicely to turn off that boombox. If he refused then I would've cut it off myself and if dude wanted to bust a move then so be it BUT either way that boombox is turning off. In any case that should've been the owner or managers job to tell him to turn that bullshit off and stop being a jack ass.

[QUOTE=Drlawyer; 1173728]You are guys are not appreciating the big picture. Its not about you, but about Sosua's continued existence as a monger destination.

There are many many forces at work from feminist do gooders, to politicians, to general haters, to higher end investors, who would love nothing more than to shut Sosua down as a monger destination.

In an ideal world, we can all walk around and say that race doesn't matter, that one guy's "gettin' pussy" and acting up doesn't affect the next man's ability to do so. But in Sosua, that is not the case. Each and every monger should take it upon himself to respect the people, the ladies, and the place. By doing so, we ensure that the place stays viable for everyone for a long time.

Don't be selfish. Just because there is prostitution doesn't mean one can disregards all basic decorum and "home training" as we used to say. Take care of Sosua, and it will take care of you. Treat it like a cum dump and shithole, and the forces of evil will shut it down eventually. Do not make the place an open air brothel.

To those Black guys out there who offended, don't be. Just try and understand that some of the nonsense that some engage in is seriously offensive to many. I actually remember when NG was a decent place to stay. Now its been turned to an open air brothel. Not a good look. Go out, have fun, handle our biz but a little respect and discretion go along way.

No body is hating on race specifically, but on behavior as well. Are some judged more harshly than others? Sure, but that's not anything we are new to. Be aware and have some respect.[/QUOTE]Drlawyer,

Very good valid points! We all have to do our part, the little things like having home training etc to ensure the grown mans Disneyland we call Sosua endures. But we can't worry about the next mans action as well. Other then these young catz living out there long time fantasy of being in a rap videos no one has yet (knock on wood) said that they've done anything bad (I. E. Fighting, murder etc) other then having their pants sag halfway off their ass and playing music in an inappropriate time. If you see a kid doing something that's putting salt to the game pull him aside and talk to him. You'll be amazed how these young catz will listen.

Hell I have a couple young catz right now about to hit Sosua this upcoming week asking me about the dos and donts of mongering. And sure enough they wanted to rock and give away the ed hardys shirts, be flashy with the rings and watches while chillen in the VIP throwing money in the air 'BUT' after I told them that's not cool and explained to them the reasons they decided to tone it down. Now at first site you would think here we go again with some more make it rain fellas but these catz are nothing more then hardworking, good people that's been saving up there money for the past year and is ready to live out there fantasy. All was needed was some proper guidance so they don't put salt in the game. And in essence that's what this board is about. Knowledge on proper mongering. Cus I sure didn't learn threw osmosis. All the senior OG's that's been posting for years are the reason why my past couple trips been fun and enjoyable. I shudder to think how things would turn out in Sosua if it wasn't for this board. I probably be another Western Union statistic LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1173303]I hope that we don't end up spending weeks going on and on about race gents. But here is something we can all agree on:

In the mongering world, there is only one color that really matters: [b]GREEN[/b]. It doesn't matter what race you are; if you don't have those Ben Franklin's then you don't get any pussy. Period! If you spend you all of your money on airfare and hotel and show up to Sosua broke, then you will be standing on the sidelines holding your dick while I, Coolie High, and others parade chicas in and out of Classicos for the duration of your stay.

(Note: I was not being "color-sensitive" as to money. Your country's currency color may vary, LOL) [/QUOTE]AMEN! Its all about the money! 'AT ALL' times.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1173498]Hey, where's the love why'all?

Folks, sounds like Coolie's gettin a little, shall we say, tensed up?

That's what being too long away from pussy paradise does to us all Coolie!

Get yer ass down there soon or we be reading about you in the papers LOL.

We need your reports![/QUOTE]Oakie,

This what happens when you have to deal with american woman for a year LOL. A brother gets tense LOL. Less then 30 days before I'm back in the promise land.

[QUOTE=Uktraveler; 1173337]I was mearly pointing out a well-establish fact. You elected to draw the race card, not me.

This "element" didn't (note past-tense)"hurt my chances of getting pussy in Sosua" because we were never chasing the same shade of skin.

Thanks for the warning about making it rain in Aug, but why bother. We ALL knew it was going to happen![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Uktraveler;1173767]You tell me. I'm not the one with a dedicated thread here.[/QUOTE]My man! Right on Q for another smart ass but uninformative comment. Mr. Gogo I think where done here.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1173739]I might get flamed for the next point but I am not hearing anyone / old school mongers trying to reach out to these newbies. Why not simply introduce yourself buy him a presidente and explain to him the benefit of respecting the girls and being discreet? If rebuffed, come here and flame away but there are some who will take your advice and pass it along, then voila! Everyone wins! Just my two pesos gents

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]My point exactly. Like Chief told me, 'Each one, Teach one'.

And on that note gents ill be in Haiti from Aug 5th-9th and then from there ima travel to Sosua and chill to the 12th. If any one wants to get up with me for some drinks hit me up. Shout-outs to Sovereign, DeepMmpactt and TomJackin.

Peace

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1174487]Gentlemen! My apologies for taking so long to respond to some of yaw comments. Been trying to talk to God aka Jackson the past few days about why my last post was flag but I guess Gods a busy man cus my prayers of a presidente chillin on a beach with a big titty dominicana sitting on my lap nor questions about specifically why my post was flag never got answered. In any case I'm going to repost my last post and hope that God see that I wasn't argumentive at all to anyone and hopefully he doesn't strike me down for a sin that I didn't commit.

Manizales911,

No doubt the make it rain crowd does exist and it's not goin anywhere no time soon. I see it all the time here in Vegas where people from all races, and culture come to the club spend 10 thousand dollars on a table and start throwing money in the air but just like anywhere I go when I see these catz make it rain I pay it no nevermind. Let them over pay for pussy and be the suckers. If they want to pretend like money isn't important then so be that but I like yourself know the value of a dollar and I be damn if I go and just throw it in the air just to impress some hoes. I rather spend my dollars on a broad getting on her knees serving me while I'm in my Captain Morgan pose LOL.

And as far as the guy with the boombox I would've went up to dude and ask him nicely to turn off that boombox. If he refused then I would've cut it off myself and if dude wanted to bust a move then so be it BUT either way that boombox is turning off. In any case that should've been the owner or managers job to tell him to turn that bullshit off and stop being a jack ass.

Drlawyer,

Very good valid points! We all have to do our part, the little things like having home training etc to ensure the grown mans Disneyland we call Sosua endures. But we can't worry about the next mans action as well. Other then these young catz living out there long time fantasy of being in a rap videos no one has yet (knock on wood) said that they've done anything bad (I. E. Fighting, murder etc) other then having their pants sag halfway off their ass and playing music in an inappropriate time. If you see a kid doing something that's putting salt to the game pull him aside and talk to him. You'll be amazed how these young catz will listen.

Hell I have a couple young catz right now about to hit Sosua this upcoming week asking me about the dos and donts of mongering. And sure enough they wanted to rock and give away the ed hardys shirts, be flashy with the rings and watches while chillen in the VIP throwing money in the air 'BUT' after I told them that's not cool and explained to them the reasons they decided to tone it down. Now at first site you would think here we go again with some more make it rain fellas but these catz are nothing more then hardworking, good people that's been saving up there money for the past year and is ready to live out there fantasy. All was needed was some proper guidance so they don't put salt in the game. And in essence that's what this board is about. Knowledge on proper mongering. Cus I sure didn't learn threw osmosis. All the senior OG's that's been posting for years are the reason why my past couple trips been fun and enjoyable. I shudder to think how things would turn out in Sosua if it wasn't for this board. I probably be another Western Union statistic LOL.

AMEN! Its all about the money! 'AT ALL' times.

Oakie,

This what happens when you have to deal with american woman for a year LOL. A brother gets tense LOL. Less then 30 days before I'm back in the promise land.

My man! Right on Q for another smart ass but uninformative comment. Mr. Gogo I think where done here.

My point exactly. Like Chief told me, 'Each one, Teach one'.

And on that note gents ill be in Haiti from Aug 5th-9th and then from there ima travel to Sosua and chill to the 12th. If any one wants to get up with me for some drinks hit me up. Shout-outs to Sovereign, DeepMmpactt and TomJackin.

Peace[/QUOTE]Mani you kill me because you are so real. Right now the real racist's are calling you a sellout but they will never understand that it's not about race but respect due. I'm there when you are, but we don't make it rain. I got secrets that you will enjoy. Like my personal after hours strip club (naked). You are going to have a ball, summertime party, check for pm later this month.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1174433][b]I am a first timer in DR[/b]

Why do you think what you call "the police action" would negatively impact your holiday? (I assume you are not planning to indulge in drugs or under-age girls?) [/QUOTE]Love your wry humor, Charles. So tongue in cheek! (smiley). Oh, by the way, thanks to Frannie, came to know of the character Pooter and "pooterism".

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1174487]Gentlemen! My apologies for taking so long to respond to some of yaw comments.

Peace[/QUOTE]Coolie you are a great guy, you are my hermano, anytime you want to hang, mi casa es tu casa.

[QUOTE=Beagle0030;1174469]Again as cheap as food is, I cannot believe that anyone would cook in while they were there. However, I really think everyone should do what they want. That is doubly so while on vacation in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I agree that everyone should do what they want on vacation, which is why I didn't respond to a childish comment below.

I like Baileys and Susanna's on occasion but if I'm there for a long time that gets old to me after awhile. There is also a restaurant in Puerto Plata that I will stop by on every trip for various reasons as well as a place I use to go to in Cabarete for the paella but I think it closed down. La Roca also has good buffets and the fish soap used to be a favorite but I didn't get a chance to get any on my last trip. I have a friend that works at Terra Linda and she told me the food is good, but I never made it by for lunch or dinner so that is a must on my next trip.

As far as "cook in" I actually prefer to rent an apartment or villa and have some chicas cook for me than eat at most of the places in Sosua.

Again, I've attached a few pics. One is a pic of a typical dish at Susana's. I like the food at her place. She has moved around over the years and the price of the food has gone up, but the consistency and quality has always been there for me. If you like comida tipica, this is the spot IMO in Sosua.

Another is of the breakfast at Colibri, which, as you can see, pales in comparison to NG. However, I always prefer a hotel that offers breakfast for those lazy days.

Lastly, an example of why I do like to "cook in." One of my regulars cooking in the penthouse that I rent on occasion. I think this particular night pollo guisado and bacalao con papas was on the menu.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1174637]I agree that everyone should do what they want on vacation, which is why I didn't respond to a childish comment below.

I like Baileys and Susanna's on occasion but if I'm there for a long time that gets old to me after awhile. There is also a restaurant in Puerto Plata that I will stop by on every trip for various reasons as well as a place I use to go to in Cabarete for the paella but I think it closed down. La Roca also has good buffets and the fish soap used to be a favorite but I didn't get a chance to get any on my last trip. I have a friend that works at Terra Linda and she told me the food is good, but I never made it by for lunch or dinner so that is a must on my next trip.

As far as "cook in" I actually prefer to rent an apartment or villa and have some chicas cook for me than eat at most of the places in Sosua.

Again, I've attached a few pics. One is a pic of a typical dish at Susana's. I like the food at her place. She has moved around over the years and the price of the food has gone up, but the consistency and quality has always been there for me. If you like comida tipica, this is the spot IMO in Sosua.

Another is of the breakfast at Colibri, which, as you can see, pales in comparison to NG. However, I always prefer a hotel that offers breakfast for those lazy days.

Lastly, an example of why I do like to "cook in." One of my regulars cooking in the penthouse that I rent on occasion. I think this particular night pollo guisado and bacalao con papas was on the menu.[/QUOTE]Where is Susana's, I have never heard of it though I've probably walked by it a thousand times.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1174487]And on that note gents ill be in Haiti from Aug 5th-9th...[/QUOTE]Will very much be looking forward to that trip report! The Haiti forum is too quiet for it; the Sosua board may not welcome it; but I am certain that it will definitely be welcome in Gogo's forum!

Here is some motivation as a friendly reminder of what those Haitianas are capable of (sorry, no "plate-of-food pics" in this post). As you can tell from the background(s) I've had breakfast at NG and TL more than a little bit, so I figure myself an expert on the subject (a "smiley" would be inserted here if they were still allowed, lol).

Peace and Chicken Grease!

It was also announced that the famous PJ's restaurant has closed its doors today, also within a few days even Restaurant La Roca and Happy Bar will cease their activities (temporary?). Since last week, the RIU Mambo in Puerto Plata is closed.

[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2646&article=1[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1174649]Will very much be looking forward to that trip report! The Haiti forum is too quiet for it; the Sosua board may not welcome it; but I am certain that it will definitely be welcome in Gogo's forum!

Here is some motivation as a friendly reminder of what those Haitianas are capable of (sorry, no "plate-of-food pics" in this post). As you can tell from the background (s) I've had breakfast at NG and TL more than a little bit, so I figure myself an expert on the subject (a "smiley" would be inserted here if they were still allowed, LOL).

Peace and Chicken Grease![/QUOTE]All you think about is food and sex?

Why not combine them?

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[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1174661]It was also announced that the famous PJ's restaurant has closed its doors today, also within a few days even Restaurant La Roca and Happy Bar will cease their activities (temporary?). Since last week, the RIU Mambo in Puerto Plata is closed.

[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2646&article=1[/url][/QUOTE]PJ's closed? WTF is going on down there? For real?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1174639]Where is Susana's, I have never heard of it though I've probably walked by it a thousand times.[/QUOTE]Susanas is well hidden. Suppose you are walking in front of hotel Europa toward Classicos. Across the street still walking toward Classicos, you have Domino bar then 4 Roses bar. Walk another 30 steps and you will see a driveway going to the rear. Turn in that driveway and its about 30 yards on the right.

Good Chicken, beans, and rice for 300 pesos. But before U-turn in the driveway is Ollies new spot. He doesn't set up till late look for the white food truck in the lot. Pulled chicken sandwich, with melted cheese, tomatoe, lettuce, onions and yes hot sauce. All for 200 pesos. And Ollie speaks perfect english. Frannie you are there, please give us your review.

Heading to sosua on aug 4 for two weeks. Can anybody tell me if passions still has hot girls. Ad who would you guys recomend at passions. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Bad Apple2;1174748]Heading to sosua on aug 4 for two weeks. Can anybody tell me if passions still has hot girls. Ad who would you guys recomend at passions. Thanks![/QUOTE]Check out their web site for pictures. Don't know how current they are. Can anybody comment, or suggest specific chicas?

[QUOTE=BlackSultan;1174676]PJ's closed? WTF is going on down there? For real?[/QUOTE]There is just a lot of unemployment and business is very slow. I spoke to my sister in law this evening, who works at one of Sosua's best known restaurants, and she said that on Monday coming there is a general strike and protest March, which is a fairly common phenomenon here when people are pissed off and want a day off work. I will try to get some pictures on Monday. Not sure if the ladies of the night will be participating or if the bars and restaurants will be closed. I doubt it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1174804]There is just a lot of unemployment and business is very slow. I spoke to my sister in law this evening, who works at one of Sosua's best known restaurants, and she said that on Monday coming there is a general strike and protest March, which is a fairly common phenomenon here when people are pissed off and want a day off work. I will try to get some pictures on Monday. Not sure if the ladies of the night will be participating or if the bars and restaurants will be closed. I doubt it.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm wrong but this seems a bit counter intuitive. If business is slow and businesses are closing and laying people off, why would folks be protesting for a day off? People talk about the so-called "crackdown" but high airfare prices and less flights to POP might be as much to blame, if not more, especially if you consider that businesses in POP are being affected as well. I'm interested to see what the local press says about the protest. Thanks for the update.

OK, I was able to find this which might make more sense:

Insisting on the call to strike.

Government and business organizations have expressed their opposition, but Foro Social Alternativo, a group best known for its organization of national protest strikes, said the call for a 24-hour nationwide strike on Mon. 11 July is on. The organization demands the government reduce electricity tariffs, increase public employee wages by 30, and change the petrol law that is pegged to petrol increases worldwide. It comes after Congress approved a taxation package that would generate an additional Road$9. 4 billion to the government so it can compensate its fiscal deficit.

Superintendent of banks Ng Cortinas estimates each day of strike costs the economy Road$1 billion. Luis Abinader, vice presidential candidate for the PRD, said the strike is a call by citizens to the government to stop wasteful spending of government resources.

This would be the first strike call for this year. Strike calls had lost their attraction after becoming so common, the general public began to ignore them.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1174722]Susanas is well hidden. Suppose you are walking in front of hotel Europa toward Classicos. Across the street still walking toward Classicos, you have Domino bar then 4 Roses bar. Walk another 30 steps and you will see a driveway going to the rear. Turn in that driveway and its about 30 yards on the right.

Good Chicken, beans, and rice for 300 pesos. But before U-turn in the driveway is Ollies new spot. He doesn't set up till late look for the white food truck in the lot. Pulled chicken sandwich, with melted cheese, tomatoe, lettuce, onions and yes hot sauce. All for 200 pesos. And Ollie speaks perfect english. Frannie you are there, please give us your review.[/QUOTE]I eat at Susanas all the time when I am in Sosua. Dominican Soul Food. Off the chain. Enuff said.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1174487]Gentlemen! My apologies for taking so long to respond to some of yaw comments. Been trying to talk to God aka Jackson the past few days about why my last post was flag but I guess Gods a busy man cus my prayers of a presidente chillin on a beach with a big titty dominicana sitting on my lap nor questions about specifically why my post was flag never got answered. In any case I'm going to repost my last post and hope that God see that I wasn't argumentive at all to anyone and hopefully he doesn't strike me down for a sin that I didn't commit.

Manizales911,

No doubt the make it rain crowd does exist and it's not goin anywhere no time soon. I see it all the time here in Vegas where people from all races, and culture come to the club spend 10 thousand dollars on a table and start throwing money in the air but just like anywhere I go when I see these catz make it rain I pay it no nevermind. Let them over pay for pussy and be the suckers. If they want to pretend like money isn't important then so be that but I like yourself know the value of a dollar and I be damn if I go and just throw it in the air just to impress some hoes. I rather spend my dollars on a broad getting on her knees serving me while I'm in my Captain Morgan pose LOL.

And as far as the guy with the boombox I would've went up to dude and ask him nicely to turn off that boombox. If he refused then I would've cut it off myself and if dude wanted to bust a move then so be it BUT either way that boombox is turning off. In any case that should've been the owner or managers job to tell him to turn that bullshit off and stop being a jack ass.

Drlawyer,

Very good valid points! We all have to do our part, the little things like having home training etc to ensure the grown mans Disneyland we call Sosua endures. But we can't worry about the next mans action as well. Other then these young catz living out there long time fantasy of being in a rap videos no one has yet (knock on wood) said that they've done anything bad (I. E. Fighting, murder etc) other then having their pants sag halfway off their ass and playing music in an inappropriate time. If you see a kid doing something that's putting salt to the game pull him aside and talk to him. You'll be amazed how these young catz will listen.

Hell I have a couple young catz right now about to hit Sosua this upcoming week asking me about the dos and donts of mongering. And sure enough they wanted to rock and give away the ed hardys shirts, be flashy with the rings and watches while chillen in the VIP throwing money in the air 'BUT' after I told them that's not cool and explained to them the reasons they decided to tone it down. Now at first site you would think here we go again with some more make it rain fellas but these catz are nothing more then hardworking, good people that's been saving up there money for the past year and is ready to live out there fantasy. All was needed was some proper guidance so they don't put salt in the game. And in essence that's what this board is about. Knowledge on proper mongering. Cus I sure didn't learn threw osmosis. All the senior OG's that's been posting for years are the reason why my past couple trips been fun and enjoyable. I shudder to think how things would turn out in Sosua if it wasn't for this board. I probably be another Western Union statistic LOL.

AMEN! Its all about the money! 'AT ALL' times.

Oakie,

This what happens when you have to deal with american woman for a year LOL. A brother gets tense LOL. Less then 30 days before I'm back in the promise land.

My man! Right on Q for another smart ass but uninformative comment. Mr. Gogo I think where done here.

My point exactly. Like Chief told me, 'Each one, Teach one'.

And on that note gents ill be in Haiti from Aug 5th-9th and then from there ima travel to Sosua and chill to the 12th. If any one wants to get up with me for some drinks hit me up. Shout-outs to Sovereign, DeepMmpactt and TomJackin.

Peace[/QUOTE]Cooiie you are onto something big. Check your Email and you will see the promised land is waiting on us.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1174722]Susanas is well hidden. Suppose you are walking in front of hotel Europa toward Classicos. Across the street still walking toward Classicos, you have Domino bar then 4 Roses bar. Walk another 30 steps and you will see a driveway going to the rear. Turn in that driveway and its about 30 yards on the right.

Good Chicken, beans, and rice for 300 pesos. But before U-turn in the driveway is Ollies new spot. He doesn't set up till late look for the white food truck in the lot. Pulled chicken sandwich, with melted cheese, tomatoe, lettuce, onions and yes hot sauce. All for 200 pesos. And Ollie speaks perfect english. Frannie you are there, please give us your review.[/QUOTE]Susanas is good. Ask any local where to get good Dominican food and they'll say Susana. I was a little reluctant when I saw the food bar not sure how long its been sitting around but it wasnt bad. You have to brave it.

Much thanks to savepros for fotos of asses rather than one's of pancakes. Now I'm missing the DR again, rather than getting an overwhelming impulse for IHOP. LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1174649]Will very much be looking forward to that trip report! The Haiti forum is too quiet for it; the Sosua board may not welcome it; but I am certain that it will definitely be welcome in Gogo's forum!

Here is some motivation as a friendly reminder of what those Haitianas are capable of (sorry, no "plate-of-food pics" in this post). As you can tell from the background (s) I've had breakfast at NG and TL more than a little bit, so I figure myself an expert on the subject (a "smiley" would be inserted here if they were still allowed, LOL).

Peace and Chicken Grease![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kman1;1175191]Susanas is good. Ask any local where to get good Dominican food and they'll say Susana. I was a little reluctant when I saw the food bar not sure how long its been sitting around but it wasnt bad. You have to brave it.[/QUOTE]My stomach is not that robust. I have eaten at Susana's maybe eight times, never a problem and reasonably priced. At PJ's twice and upset stomach both times. Third time I just sat and watched my friend eat. Yes, he felt bad afterwards, too. Good riddance to that dump.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1173893]Bottom line is Sosua is the place to do YOUR thing, whatever it is. You're not a prisoner in some club or bar, move on to the next.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the Sosua in the DR, or some other Sosua? Because the Sosua in the DR is nothing more than a little 2 trick-pony town. Let's see, you basically have Classicos and Passions. What's left? Ok, if you're at Classico's then I suppose you can "move" to Latino's, or if you're at Passions then you can "move" to CMP, but then what? What's your next "move" because "they" are going to be there too. I guess you can troll some of the smaller bars that are either empty or are full of European men and NO women, or try something dominican like el flow and deal with the pistols and fist fights, or shoot for a haitan "rub and tug" at one of the smaller "salons" if even still open. Sounds Lovely, doesn't it?

You want the real bottom line? Here it is, those that travel to and stay in Sosua are more or less "prisoners" to the same clubs, pubs and *houses if they are looking for women. And the more people like you that run away from the problem, the more they take over the town. Which sadly, has already happened.

[QUOTE=Uktraveler; 1175433]Are you talking about the Sosua in the DR, or some other Sosua? Because the Sosua in the DR is nothing more than a little 2 trick-pony town. Let's see, you basically have Classicos and Passions. What's left? Ok, if you're at Classico's then I suppose you can "move" to Latino's, or if you're at Passions then you can "move" to CMP, but then what? What's your next "move" because "they" are going to be there too. I guess you can troll some of the smaller bars that are either empty or are full of European men and NO women, or try something dominican like el flow and deal with the pistols and fist fights, or shoot for a haitan "rub and tug" at one of the smaller "salons" if even still open. Sounds Lovely, doesn't it?

You want the real bottom line? Here it is, those that travel to and stay in Sosua are more or less "prisoners" to the same clubs, pubs and *houses if they are looking for women. And the more people like you that run away from the problem, the more they take over the town. Which sadly, has already happened.[/QUOTE]

Aye yi yi! What's getting into everybody? All this negativity!

I can only relate my own positive experiences here. I'm not trying to sell Sosua to anybody, but I'm obviously not alone in looking foward to my next trip there.

Research this board, like I did, and you'll find a wealth of good info on how to get the most out of Sosua and the surrounding area.

Of course, if it's not for you, I'm sure you can find other options.

But don't cry in my beer, pal.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1175454]Aye yi yi! What's getting into everybody? All this negativity!

I can only relate my own positive experiences here. I'm not trying to sell Sosua to anybody, but I'm obviously not alone in looking foward to my next trip there.

Research this board, like I did, and you'll find a wealth of good info on how to get the most out of Sosua and the surrounding area.

Of course, if it's not for you, I'm sure you can find other options.

But don't cry in my beer, pal.[/QUOTE]No need to research anything as I've lived it all there. As you are older,"wifed-up" and (apparently) newer to Sosua than I, perhaps you can't fully appreciate the situation. Nevertheless, one man's vomit is another man's meal, so far be it for me to put anymore "tears in your beer", er ah pal.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1175454]Aye yi yi! What's getting into everybody? All this negativity!

I can only relate my own positive experiences here. I'm not trying to sell Sosua to anybody, but I'm obviously not alone in looking foward to my next trip there.

Research this board, like I did, and you'll find a wealth of good info on how to get the most out of Sosua and the surrounding area.

Of course, if it's not for you, I'm sure you can find other options.

But don't cry in my beer, pal.[/QUOTE]Well said Oakie. I've been to Sosua ten times in the last year and I was never wanting for girls that's for sure. I leave for Sosua in 8 hours, we'll see. I'll be the fat gringo hanging and dancing in El Flow with a bevy of girls on his arms. If anyone is around pop in and say "hola".

[QUOTE=Uktraveler; 1175433]Are you talking about the Sosua in the DR, or some other Sosua? Because the Sosua in the DR is nothing more than a little 2 trick-pony town. Let's see, you basically have Classicos and Passions. What's left? Ok, if you're at Classico's then I suppose you can "move" to Latino's, or if you're at Passions then you can "move" to CMP, but then what? What's your next "move" because "they" are going to be there too. I guess you can troll some of the smaller bars that are either empty or are full of European men and NO women, or try something dominican like el flow and deal with the pistols and fist fights, or shoot for a haitan "rub and tug" at one of the smaller "salons" if even still open. Sounds Lovely, doesn't it?

You want the real bottom line? Here it is, those that travel to and stay in Sosua are more or less "prisoners" to the same clubs, pubs and *houses if they are looking for women. And the more people like you that run away from the problem, the more they take over the town. Which sadly, has already happened.[/QUOTE]If Sosua is "prison" I'm about to go on a fucking serious crime spree and get myself locked up.

I've spent shitloads of nights partying in El Flow and I've only seen one fight, a big one but only one. Shit happens in there no doubt but it's not quite the wild west. The bouncers have baseball bats hidden up in the roll up door and aren't afraid to use 'them, they don't let people misbehave in there. I love it there so please UkTraveler stay the fuck out and leave all the fun for me.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1175371]My stomach is not that robust. I have eaten at Susana's maybe eight times, never a problem and reasonably priced. At PJ's twice and upset stomach both times. Third time I just sat and watched my friend eat. Yes, he felt bad afterwards, too. Good riddance to that dump.[/QUOTE]I've eaten at Susana's a bunch of times with no problems. I never knew it was named Susana's until Mr. Gogo gave directions. I've also eaten at PJ's a lot because they were open real late and never got sick but their food was AWFUL.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1174722]Susanas is well hidden. Suppose you are walking in front of hotel Europa toward Classicos. Across the street still walking toward Classicos, you have Domino bar then 4 Roses bar. Walk another 30 steps and you will see a driveway going to the rear. Turn in that driveway and its about 30 yards on the right.

Good Chicken, beans, and rice for 300 pesos. But before U-turn in the driveway is Ollies new spot. He doesn't set up till late look for the white food truck in the lot. Pulled chicken sandwich, with melted cheese, tomatoe, lettuce, onions and yes hot sauce. All for 200 pesos. And Ollie speaks perfect english. Frannie you are there, please give us your review.[/QUOTE]I have eaten at Susannah's a few times. At one time a good friend of my sister in law worked there. The food is OK. I am not really crazy about Dominican food as I get to eat it every day at home! How many ways can you fix plantains, chicken, beans, and rice?

The trouble with the Dominican restaurants is that the food is cheap enough, but it is just school cafeteria food cooked up in large batches without much attention to any kind of sublety in flavor or texture. As I am a pretty good cook myself I tend to think about how dishes in restaurants could be improved.

Actually I quite like the German restaurants of which there are plenty in Sosua with some good dishes on the menu. Had spicy meatballs and potato salad tonight. Anybody could make it, but it hit the spot.

I also like the excellent bread that is available from the German bakeries in Sosua, which you can find at the large Playero supermercado.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1175454]Aye yi yi! What's getting into everybody? All this negativity!

I can only relate my own positive experiences here. I'm not trying to sell Sosua to anybody, but I'm obviously not alone in looking foward to my next trip there.

Research this board, like I did, and you'll find a wealth of good info on how to get the most out of Sosua and the surrounding area.

Of course, if it's not for you, I'm sure you can find other options.

But don't cry in my beer, pal.[/QUOTE]I agree. Sosua has quite a lot to offer other than chica bars, including a beach, diving, fishing expeditions, tours, a variety of accommodations, a wide selection of restaurants. You can find a different attractive woman to sleep with every night if you wish or get a girl for the week, or sample lots of different flavor of sex. Like many things, mongering can get boring very quickly if you overdo it. Like any place, to some extent Sosua is what you make it.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1175532]I have eaten at Susannah's a few times. At one time a good friend of my sister in law worked there. The food is OK. I am not really crazy about Dominican food as I get to eat it every day at home! How many ways can you fix plantains, chicken, beans, and rice?

The trouble with the Dominican restaurants is that the food is cheap enough, but it is just school cafeteria food cooked up in large batches without much attention to any kind of sublety in flavor or texture. As I am a pretty good cook myself I tend to think about how dishes in restaurants could be improved.

Actually I quite like the German restaurants of which there are plenty in Sosua with some good dishes on the menu. Had spicy meatballs and potato salad tonight. Anybody could make it, but it hit the spot.

I also like the excellent bread that is available from the German bakeries in Sosua, which you can find at the large Playero supermercado.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Casa Valeria has an excellent German cook, and like you say it digest's well. I was a cook in the Navy, so how food digest's say's alot to me. Dominican food is very bland and basic. I never understood people who say it's great. Their is an older Cuban guy in my neighbor hood, that I alway's have cook for me if I'm not feeling well. I don't know if it's the spice's or what, but I alway's feel better when I eat it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1175535]I agree. Sosua has quite a lot to offer other than chica bars, including a beach, diving, fishing expeditions, tours, a variety of accommodations, a wide selection of restaurants. You can find a different attractive woman to sleep with every night if you wish or get a girl for the week, or sample lots of different flavor of sex. Like many things, mongering can get boring very quickly if you overdo it. Like any place, to some extent Sosua is what you make it.[/QUOTE]Good post but one thing I don't agree with. Your"Girl for a week" quote. It's not as prevalent as before. Maybe because the girl's don't feel comfortable walking around during the day. Maybe it's the ex Brazil guy's who just want a quickie and not a date. Maybe the girl's feel they can make more money doing hourly rates. Maybe it's because guy's now don't care about learning the language or culture.

Before girl's would lock in for your whole trip regardless of how much you were paying initially, because they didn't want to share your deniro. Monger's and chica's walking around holding hand's. Guy's going to the airport lovesick and crying, going to Western union getting the Gold card. Meeting the family. Girl's trying to get you to go bareback to show their commitment. Sosua is buisiness and fast money now. Girl's from outter town's aren't getting dressed up to find a boyfriend at Classico's. Just pro chica's looking for a fast trick. Fake love was the norm before.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1175532]I have eaten at Susannah's a few times. At one time a good friend of my sister in law worked there. The food is OK. I am not really crazy about Dominican food as I get to eat it every day at home! How many ways can you fix plantains, chicken, beans, and rice?

The trouble with the Dominican restaurants is that the food is cheap enough, but it is just school cafeteria food cooked up in large batches without much attention to any kind of sublety in flavor or texture. As I am a pretty good cook myself I tend to think about how dishes in restaurants could be improved.

Actually I quite like the German restaurants of which there are plenty in Sosua with some good dishes on the menu. Had spicy meatballs and potato salad tonight. Anybody could make it, but it hit the spot.

I also like the excellent bread that is available from the German bakeries in Sosua, which you can find at the large Playero supermercado.[/QUOTE]There is actually a lot that can be done with platanos, but if you're getting home cooking in Sosua there is no need to go to Susana's. The only reason I raised it is because its the only Dominican food that I feel comfortable with on the strip so its a convenient way to eat comida criolla, which I love but admit its not the best at Susana's, and also a good way to meet random chicas eating there at lunch time, and also support a local Dominican business, which I like to do when I'm in Sosua.

There is another similar place by the colmado but I don't feel comfortable with that place, although I've heard from chicas that the food is cheaper. Food is something that I'm careful about in the DR cause one bad meal can ruin a trip, and I've had friends that have spent several days with "the runs" while on vacation, which is not fun.

I've attached a stock foto for newbies that may be trying to find Susana.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1175552]Good post but one thing I don't agree with. Your"Girl for a week" quote. It's not as prevalent as before. Maybe because the girl's don't feel comfortable walking around during the day. Maybe it's the ex Brazil guy's who just want a quickie and not a date. Maybe the girl's feel they can make more money doing hourly rates. Maybe it's because guy's now don't care about learning the language or culture.

Before girl's would lock in for your whole trip regardless of how much you were paying initially, because they didn't want to share your deniro. Monger's and chica's walking around holding hand's. Guy's going to the airport lovesick and crying, going to Western union getting the Gold card. Meeting the family. Girl's trying to get you to go bareback to show their commitment. Sosua is buisiness and fast money now. Girl's from outter town's aren't getting dressed up to find a boyfriend at Classico's. Just pro chica's looking for a fast trick. Fake love was the norm before.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right on the money concerning girls trying to get you to go bareback. This has happened to me in almost every country that I have visited. This trick has worked well as I have repeated with these girls many times. The main factor is now that you have barebacked them you are not free (in their eyes) to take other girls. Funny in that your point on this matter is never really talked about on ISG. There are many warnings on (take cabs don't walk, Guard your drink, don't wear gold chains, etc.) , but this warning of the bareback trick is IMHO more important that most of the others.

Keep up the good work, and maybe I'll see you in Sept. In MDE. I'm dying to return to Sosua, but Spirit will not use POP. The Santiago connection just does not work for me. I guess I'm a spoiled Monger.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1175552]Good post but one thing I don't agree with. Your"Girl for a week" quote. It's not as prevalent as before. Maybe because the girl's don't feel comfortable walking around during the day. Maybe it's the ex Brazil guy's who just want a quickie and not a date. Maybe the girl's feel they can make more money doing hourly rates. Maybe it's because guy's now don't care about learning the language or culture.

Before girl's would lock in for your whole trip regardless of how much you were paying initially, because they didn't want to share your deniro. Monger's and chica's walking around holding hand's. Guy's going to the airport lovesick and crying, going to Western union getting the Gold card. Meeting the family. Girl's trying to get you to go bareback to show their commitment. Sosua is buisiness and fast money now. Girl's from outter town's aren't getting dressed up to find a boyfriend at Classico's. Just pro chica's looking for a fast trick. Fake love was the norm before.[/QUOTE]Somewhat true, but you can still see plenty of odd couples walking around, the 5 foot 4 inches middle aged white guy with his 5 foot 9 inches brown skinned inamorata in restaurants wiping the dribble from his mouth.

Possibly the novio seeking girls are more inclined to target local residents than casual visitors.

I will post more on this topic in a week or two, but at the present time reasons of confidentiality are a factor.

DAMAGE:

70 pesos for entrance.

110 pesos for her drink.

110 pesos for one hour in hotel.

300 pesos for her propina-

Converted, this is about $150. I'm gettin the same thing in Sosua for $27. Any doubts on a major reason for leaving BA?

[QUOTE=Sidney; 1175677]DAMAGE:

70 pesos for entrance.

110 pesos for her drink.

110 pesos for one hour in hotel.

300 pesos for her propina-

Converted, this is about $150. I'm gettin the same thing in Sosua for $27. Any doubts on a major reason for leaving BA?[/QUOTE]Well sure, if you're going to pay 4 times the going rates, like those numbers for BA represent, no place is going to be a bargain. The fact of the matter is, there are dozens of Privados in BA where a perfectly nice roll in the sack can be had for 100 pesos. Or under $30 US. Even a top drawer experience shouldn't run more than 300 pesos, which is around $80 US And in BA, you can also get a superb steak dinner for under $15 US all over the place, and you're in one of the more cosmopolitan cities on the planet, not a shithole dump like Sosua. Other than beach, and proximity to the USA, Sosua has nothing on Buenos Aires, and it's silly to claim otherwise.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1175632]Yes you are right on the money concerning girls trying to get you to go bareback. This has happened to me in almost every country that I have visited. This trick has worked well as I have repeated with these girls many times. The main factor is now that you have barebacked them you are not free (in their eyes) to take other girls. Funny in that your point on this matter is never really talked about on ISG. There are many warnings on (take cabs don't walk, Guard your drink, don't wear gold chains, etc.) , but this warning of the bareback trick is IMHO more important that most of the others.[/QUOTE]Except in most places other than Sosua, the guy can play that game, and simply switch venues to go onto the next "novia". SIM cards are cheap to toss and replace. It's only in a little tiny backwater like Sosua where there are only a few venues right near each other, and everyone knows everyone else's business that the chicas can actually get their hooks into you and keep you from playing the rest of the field.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;1175686]Well sure, if you're going to pay 4 times the going rates, like those numbers for BA represent, no place is going to be a bargain. The fact of the matter is, there are dozens of Privados in BA where a perfectly nice roll in the sack can be had for 100 pesos. Or under $30 US. Even a top drawer experience shouldn't run more than 300 pesos, which is around $80 US And in BA, you can also get a superb steak dinner for under $15 US all over the place, and you're in one of the more cosmopolitan cities on the planet, not a shithole dump like Sosua. Other than beach, and proximity to the USA, Sosua has nothing on Buenos Aires, and it's silly to claim otherwise.[/QUOTE]The inflation has wrecked p4p and restaurant prices. Please list the 100 peso Privado's and restaurants with qualty $15 steaks. Curious minds want to know! Regards, Silly Sid

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1175640]Somewhat true, but you can still see plenty of odd couples walking around, the 5 foot 4 inches middle aged white guy with his 5 foot 9 inches brown skinned inamorata in restaurants wiping the dribble from his mouth.

That was a great verbal picture. I could almost see in my mind's eye the scene. And the "dribble" made me crack up. But such days are in the offing so may be I should take it easy with my laughter.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1175532]Actually I quite like the German restaurants of which there are plenty in Sosua with some good dishes on the menu. Had spicy meatballs and potato salad tonight. Anybody could make it, but it hit the spot.

I also like the excellent bread that is available from the German bakeries in Sosua, which you can find at the large Playero supermercado.[/QUOTE]Speaking of German places, I would love to have a Schokolade croissant with a cup of capuccino for breakfast at a genuine German bakery. It would make my day.

On another note, This Susanna's seem to be an interesting meeting point. As someone on the forum said it, to learn about creole food which would be true for me. At least for once and then to support a viable local business. The fact that chicas congregate there, could be the other draw.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;1175686] and you're in one of the more cosmopolitan cities on the planet[/QUOTE]Prove your claims, and I'll return on the next plane to my home of 6 years. Strange, I never met you there. We will meet and enjoy the opera, symphony, plays in Spanish, art shows, jazz, soccer, parks, mas. Are you related to Jackson? And dine on beef and Malbec wine.

[QUOTE=Uktraveler;1175467]No need to research anything as I've lived it all there. As you are older,"wifed-up" and (apparently) newer to Sosua than I, perhaps you can't fully appreciate the situation. Nevertheless, one man's vomit is another man's meal, so far be it for me to put anymore "tears in your beer", er ah pal.[/QUOTE]"One man's vomit is another man's meal"?

Yuk! Maybe it should be one man's junk is another man's treasure?

I may be wifed up, but I'm always looking at Sosua through a mongers eye, specially since I've been down with my single buddy the last three times, and we hang out on the main drag at night. He's never seen the "old" Sosua, and thinks it's great. Novia brings in a couple of out of towners to meet him, and he has Classicos as a fallback.

But we all know its not what it used to be. There used to be a freshness, an excictement, a real vibe in the air, with new chicas rolling through in waves, newbies gigling with their amigas, not quite sure of themselves, as they tested their pussy power for the first time as pros. Now you see mostly seasoned pros.

But old Sosua didn't disappear, it just dispersed, and the spirit is still alive and well in the good old DR. A couple of weekdays in Boca, and the weekend in Sosua would still do it for me.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1175765]Prove your claims, and I'll return on the next plane to my home of 6 years. Strange, I never met you there. We will meet and enjoy the opera, symphony, plays in Spanish, art shows, jazz, soccer, parks, mas. Are you related to Jackson? And dine on beef and Malbec wine.[/QUOTE]If a steak cost $20, you must pay extra for, papas, veggies, salad, pasta, drinks, etc. So the total meal with tip could be $40-$45!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1175777]A couple of weekdays in Boca, and the weekend in Sosua would still do it for me.[/QUOTE]Any thoughts on the difference in chica quality and numbers in Sosua vs Boca Chica these days. I haven't been to BC in years.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1175863]Any thoughts on the difference in chica quality and numbers in Sosua vs Boca Chica these days. I haven't been to BC in years.[/QUOTE]This was the same question I had. Haven't been to BC in years either (like 10) and was recently looking at some of the current pics on DR1 of the "Boathouse". Wow, it looks nothing like it was when I was there. If nothing else, the proximity to SD makes this a definite consideration.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1175863]Any thoughts on the difference in chica quality and numbers in Sosua vs Boca Chica these days. I haven't been to BC in years.[/QUOTE]I was in Boca Chica, for about two weeks, in June. I will post some reports when I have the time (now that this topic is brought up I will start posting this weekend). Sosua still has better looking chicas. One gets tired, real fast, of the lack of quality chicas in Bocas Chica (maybe I was there during the wrong part of the year?). I would not recommend more than four days there (and even this is too long). I noticed more casas in Boca Chica and if you are willing to overpay than you will get better quality than the chicas in the streets. Greater police presence, with Politur and Policia Nacional, constantly monitoring the strip. More pickpockets, hustlers, and even younger action. Again, I will start posting on the Boca Chica thread some of my experiences. Again, Sosua still has the better action.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1175863]Any thoughts on the difference in chica quality and numbers in Sosua vs Boca Chica these days. I haven't been to BC in years.[/QUOTE]Where you guys miss the Boca Chica boat is not staking out the beach during the day on weekends. Sit in front of Coca Playa Hotel [ check the google map, I had the webmaster correct the name of the hotel] in beach chair. The girls have to walk right past you and its not like they say no. The girls are mostly from Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson;1172006]All giddy and stuff about hitting Blackbeards! Tbc[/QUOTE]We were really looking forward to reading about Kiti's adventures at Blackbeard's.

But the report never seemed to make it there. Kitie, can you take us there?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1175863]Any thoughts on the difference in chica quality and numbers in Sosua vs Boca Chica these days. I haven't been to BC in years.[/QUOTE]While I've travelled all over DR, I've only seen Monger Disnyland in Boca and Sosua.

I was in Boca in March from Tuesday to Friday, and I don't know whether it was because I was new, but I found it as intoxicating as my first trip to Sosua. They had closed off Duarte to traffic and it was party time. There were lots of seriously beautiful chicas and only a few mongers. Some chicas we met had moved down there as a result of the hassle in Sosua, but were complaining about the lack of gringos.

That's not my problem, I thought, and made a mental note to put Boca on a future solo trip, if I ever got the chance.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1175765]Prove your claims, and I'll return on the next plane to my home of 6 years. Strange, I never met you there. We will meet and enjoy the opera, symphony, plays in Spanish, art shows, jazz, soccer, parks, mas. Are you related to Jackson? And dine on beef and Malbec wine.[/QUOTE]I was in BsAs in March of 2009. So yes, it was a bit more than 2 years ago. I rented an apartment for a week that was on Corrientes, between Callao and Riobamba. About 2 blocks from the apartment I rented, on Corrientes and Junin, there was a small neighborhood Parilla that opened up about 8 PM every night except Sunday. It looked like a real hole in the wall, but the smell emanating from his woodfired oven was sublime as you walked down the block. At the time, it cost 40 Pesos for about a 300 gram cut of steak, a small salad, and a soft drink. He grilled right in front of you on his wood-fired oven, and his wife handled all of the serving, and preparing the salad and drinks. Yes, $15 US did not include a malbec, but it did include a coke and a small salad. I liked the place and it's value proposition so much, I ate dinner there 4 times in the week that I stayed in that neighborhood. While I don't remember which Privados that I mainly frequented, there were several in the general area between where I was staying and the Plaza de Republica, or possibly slightly past the Plaze down to say, Maipu or Esmeralda, typically between Corrientes and Lavalle or Sarmiento. At the time, I was typically paying 60-70 pesos for a half hour, or 90-100 pesos for an hour. At that time, the Peso was at slightly over 3. 2 to a dollar Now, it's over 4 to a dollar.

Now if you want to tell me that prices have doubled or more in the last 2 years,. In USA dollar terms, I won't argue, because I haven't been there since the first half of 2009, but I was paying $20-25 US for most of my sessions in privados in Buenos Aires '09.

And no, I have no affiliation with Jackson, other than that I use his websites.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1175821]If a steak cost $20, you must pay extra for, papas, veggies, salad, pasta, drinks, etc. So the total meal with tip could be $40-$45![/QUOTE]It has been a long time since last time I saw you in BsAs, actually I was digging out our PMs the other day regarding some of your recommendations about DR, and this time in Mid-Aug, alone other 2 mongers, I will spend some good time in Sosua.

So whats the going price for massage, any strip clubs for entertaining?

Regards,

Strad

[QUOTE=Strad; 1176230]It has been a long time since last time I saw you in BsAs, actually I was digging out our PMs the other day regarding some of your recommendations about DR, and this time in Mid-Aug, alone other 2 mongers, I will spend some good time in Sosua.

So whats the going price for massage, any strip clubs for entertaining?

Regards,

Strad[/QUOTE]A Pro massage, no sex, = Keka, $14. Many others for $14 offer minimal massage, HJ's and BBBJ's. There is 1 lousy strip club= Bananas = not advised! Better places offering in-house sex are Carribean Men's Paradise and Passion's (watch out for being short-changed here). The best places for fine, young chicas after 10pm are: Merengue Bar, Classico's disco and Latino's. I'll show you guys around.

[QUOTE=Member #2041; 1176188]I was in BsAs in March of 2009. So yes, it was a bit more than 2 years ago. I rented an apartment for a week that was on Corrientes, between Callao and Riobamba. About 2 blocks from the apartment I rented, on Corrientes and Junin, there was a small neighborhood Parilla that opened up about 8 PM every night except Sunday. It looked like a real hole in the wall, but the smell emanating from his woodfired oven was sublime as you walked down the block. At the time, it cost 40 Pesos for about a 300 gram cut of steak, a small salad, and a soft drink. He grilled right in front of you on his wood-fired oven, and his wife handled all of the serving, and preparing the salad and drinks. Yes, $15 US did not include a malbec, but it did include a coke and a small salad. I liked the place and it's value proposition so much, I ate dinner there 4 times in the week that I stayed in that neighborhood. While I don't remember which Privados that I mainly frequented, there were several in the general area between where I was staying and the Plaza de Republica, or possibly slightly past the Plaze down to say, Maipu or Esmeralda, typically between Corrientes and Lavalle or Sarmiento. At the time, I was typically paying 60-70 pesos for a half hour, or 90-100 pesos for an hour. At that time, the Peso was at slightly over 3. 2 to a dollar Now, it's over 4 to a dollar.

Now if you want to tell me that prices have doubled or more in the last 2 years. In USA dollar terms, I won't argue, because I haven't been there since the first half of 2009, but I was paying $20-25 US for most of my sessions in privados in Buenos Aires '09.

And no, I have no affiliation with Jackson, other than that I use his websites.[/QUOTE]The inflation of the last 2 years is incomprehensible! The 3rd highest in the world, only behind Zambia and Venezuela!

[QUOTE=Sidney;1176379]Better places offering in-house sex are . Passion's (watch out for being short-changed here).[/QUOTE]I am no great enthusiast for Passions, especially in its new and sterile format with hiked pricing. But I think it is fair to say that if Sidney was short-changed then he is one of the relatively few that have been. I have read hundreds of reports from customers of Passions over the past six years and it is something that I don't remember having come up before. Short-changing is widespread across the DR from stores, taxis, restaurants, etc, often by intent, but sometimes through incompetence. The people are generally innumerate and have to use calculators to work out (for example) ten [email]items@20[/email] Pesos each. I have even had too much change given back on occasion. So "watch out for being short-changed" everywhere you go! Passions is no worse than anywhere else, perhaps better.

I have read plenty of posts complaining about Passions (usually about poor service given by their over-priced putas) so I am sure if anyone else had that problem they would not have hesitated to report it. Stressing over that 200 pesos (?) will shorten your life, Sidney. Guys of our age need to chill out!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1176423]over-priced putas) so I am sure if anyone else had that problem they would not have hesitated to report it. Stressing over that 200 pesos (?) will shorten your life, Sidney. Guys of our age need to chill out![/QUOTE]I have been told several times, that short changing and stalling, is 'modus operandi'
with the cash register thief! My great life continues irregardless of Passion's suk-ups! I find them rather amusing!

[QUOTE=Sidney; 1176431]I have been told several times, that short changing and stalling, is 'modus operandi'

With the cash register thief! My great life continues irregardless of Passion's suk-ups! I find them rather amusing![/QUOTE]There is a chronic shortage of small bills here and people will do anything to avoid having to give up their valuable change so as to make change for you. They will pretend they have no change and hope you will tell them to forget it. This is one reason why I hardly ever use a motoconcho. 30 pesos for a short ride is fine and convenient, but when you have to have negotiations every single time over a 100 peso bill it is not convenient, and frankly I prefer to walk and save the aggravation and the money.

If it is a chica or a massage parlor, or La Passion, here is what you do. You tell them that since they do not have change, you will go away with your money, visit a change bureau, and return later with the correct change. They will suddenly, miraculously find a way to change your 500 peso bill.

They hope that you will hand over a 500 pesos bill when you owe 400 pesos and that you will give them an extra 100 propina if there is no change available and you can't be bothered to wait. Don't let them do it.

As CP says, Dominicans are not very good at mental arithmetic, and you may have to tell them how much is the correct change if they cannot calculate it correctly.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1176465]There is a chronic shortage of small bills here and people will do anything to avoid having to give up their valuable change so as to make change for you. They will pretend they have no change and hope you will tell them to forget it . etc[/QUOTE]All good info, Frannie, but I am surprised you have problems with change. Don't you live in the DR? Or visit very frequently? Why don't you do what I do and ask for smaller bills and / or coins at the teller counter? Very occasionally they might run short on one denomination so I just take another. I never run out of change these days once I learned how easy that is.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1176474]All good info, Frannie, but I am surprised you have problems with change. Don't you live in the DR? Or visit very frequently? Why don't you do what I do and ask for smaller bills and / or coins at the teller counter? Very occasionally they might run short on one denomination so I just take another. I never run out of change these days once I learned how easy that is.[/QUOTE]The other thing that you do is use your largest bills at the supermarket and like places. Even if I have all the change I need, I will hand the supermarket my absolutely largest bills. I do this even if I only buy a bottle of soda or bag of chips. In fact, I may later give the chips to a little person outside the supermarket. This goes in ANY country, including home. When the cashier asks if I have anything smaller, I say no. I put the bills in a buttoned pocket after counting it. Later, while in a bathroom or private place, I rearrange my bills and move money to and from the money belt. This has helped me manage my money.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1176474]All good info, Frannie, but I am surprised you have problems with change. Don't you live in the DR? Or visit very frequently? Why don't you do what I do and ask for smaller bills and / or coins at the teller counter? Very occasionally they might run short on one denomination so I just take another. I never run out of change these days once I learned how easy that is.[/QUOTE]I don't have a bank account here and the problem is with ATMs. Like everyone else I try to horde small bills when I can get hold of them, but you will notice that even at the change bureaus, they will not generally give you more than 500 pesos in smaller bills even if you request it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1176581]I don't have a bank account here and the problem is with ATMs. Like everyone else I try to horde small bills when I can get hold of them, but you will notice that even at the change bureaus, they will not generally give you more than 500 pesos in smaller bills even if you request it.[/QUOTE]I ask the cashiers in the casinos to give me 10, one hundred pesos bills, for every 1000 peso bill, I give them. Some casinos will also give you cash like an ATM machine at the caja (cashier window) , I was told the fee is something like $4US for every $100US. I didn't try it yet at the casino, but if my thieving bank Chase, doesn't charge an additional $5US on a casino transaction, then getting money from a cashier at a casino in DR, might be cheaper than using an ATM machine.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1176581]I don't have a bank account here and the problem is with ATMs. Like everyone else I try to horde small bills when I can get hold of them, but you will notice that even at the change bureaus, they will not generally give you more than 500 pesos in smaller bills even if you request it.[/QUOTE]You don't need a bank account in the DR. Instead of using your bank card in the ATM, draw cash at the teller counter. You will need your passport. I typically draw 15, 000 because I don't want to be walking round with too much cash, but if you only draw 10, 000 they groan and ask you to use the ATM next time. You have to sign a chit. I always ask for 1000 in 100s. 1000 in 50s and (very occasionally) 1000 in coins. Now I never run out of change and this saves me money in the long run. Also it's safer to draw cash inside the bank and stash it away in your inside or zipped pockets than doing it on the street.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1176589]I ask the cashiers in the casinos to give me 10, one hundred pesos bills, for every 1000 peso bill, I give them. Some casinos will also give you cash like an ATM machine at the caja (cashier window) , I was told the fee is something like $4US for every $100US. I didn't try it yet at the casino, but if my thieving bank Chase, doesn't charge an additional $5US on a casino transaction, then getting money from a cashier at a casino in DR, might be cheaper than using an ATM machine.[/QUOTE]The ATM's charge 112 pesos for withdrawals on foreign accounts, that is $ 3. Not sure where you are getting the $5 from. I did leave the DR 3 weeks ago so it could have changed since I left but I don't think so.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1176423]I am no great enthusiast for Passions, especially in its new and sterile format with hiked pricing. But I think it is fair to say that if Sidney was short-changed then he is one of the relatively few that have been. I have read hundreds of reports from customers of Passions over the past six years and it is something that I don't remember having come up before. Short-changing is widespread across the DR from stores, taxis, restaurants, etc, often by intent, but sometimes through incompetence. The people are generally innumerate and have to use calculators to work out (for example) ten [email]items@20[/email] Pesos each. I have even had too much change given back on occasion. So "watch out for being short-changed" everywhere you go! Passions is no worse than anywhere else, perhaps better.

I have read plenty of posts complaining about Passions (usually about poor service given by their over-priced putas) so I am sure if anyone else had that problem they would not have hesitated to report it. Stressing over that 200 pesos (?) will shorten your life, Sidney. Guys of our age need to chill out![/QUOTE]

Sidney's experience is not unique and I have made a complaint to management about being shortchanged in Passions. From my experience this happens when management is not paying attention or is not around. I do not see it often, though, but it does happen.

Guys go to a place, they drink, and sometimes, as stated earlier, they are shortchanged intentionally. Other times, as already stated, the chicas do not know how to count. Still other times the guys are plain drunk and do not recall how much they gave or got back. Sometimes it is hard to tell which.

As a rule of thumb whenever I have large bills I use them during the day to buy and eat food and at night I use small bills to buy drinks. While one is drinking, being distracted by the chicas, and interacting at nighttime (or on a dark dance floor) it is easy for one to make mistakes or be cheated out of money! I use small bills so if mistakes are made the loss will not be that great.

I remember while at Merengue Bar I gave one of the chicas money for a beer. I had asked her several times for my change and she said that she would give it to me. Another monger said for me not to worry because she would eventually come back with my money since Merengue bar was pretty honest. She continued serving others, while ignoring me, and the only way I was able to get my money back was by complaining to the head cashier (who happened to be a friend of mine!). It looked like the typical game of not giving back the change and it being so little that I would simply walk away and she would pocket it as a tip!

Sydney needs to complain since, like the experience just mentioned, one learns to lessen if not totally avoid losing money unnecessarily!

I remember while at Blackbeards one of the complaints was that the chicas were skimming money off the top. If they owed you 60 DOP they would only pay you 50 DOP, if not less. Hey, these chicas know when the guys are paying attention or not; when they are drunk or not. 10 DOP here. 20 DOP there (sometimes much more) , and it all adds up! The typical guy would not know since the sum lost is so low. Blackbeards has had problems with chicas stealing but they always try to address this. If Blackbeards did not have these problems they would not need to fine the chica, suspend, or even expel them from the place! Overall, though, Blackbeards is a good place and I am not trying to knock it down since they do try to create a good environment for the monger!

The truth of the matter is that these chicas come from bad neighborhoods so what does one expect. They are not all thieves but the incidence of thievery is much higher.

As for receiving too much change I find that to be even more rare than being cheated out of money in Passions! The people in that country might not know how to count but, heck, giving too much change back! I have yet to read a report on that topic. Anyone out there who knows of a place in the DR that gives too much change back can you please PM me. That is a place I would like to give all my business to!

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176660]Guys go to a place, they drink, and sometimes, as stated earlier, they are shortchanged intentionally. Other times, as already stated, the chicas do not know how to count. Still other times the guys are plain drunk and do not recall how much they gave or got back. Sometimes it is hard to tell which.[/QUOTE]There is a reason my DR nickname is "tacaño." Basically, this is me in the DR: [url]http://youtu.be/KNQRqAoT-2c[/url]

[QUOTE=Llttf;1176636]The ATM's charge 112 pesos for withdrawals on foreign accounts, that is $ 3. Not sure where you are getting the $5 from. I did leave the DR 3 weeks ago so it could have changed since I left but I don't think so.[/QUOTE]Therefore is it more advantageous to change money at "casa de cambio" or to withdrawal money from ATM?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1176738]Therefore is it more advantageous to change money at "casa de cambio" or to withdrawal money from ATM?[/QUOTE]If you don't mind walking around with a thousand or more dollars or euros, you will not lose money by exchanging euros or dollars to pesos at a cambio. For me, ATM fees when I withdraw money in DR is $10US per transaction. If you have a Scotia Bank account or a Bank of America account, you can save on the fees by using Scotia Bank ATM machines.

Some guys use Charles Scwab or Paypal cards to save on some fees. Some guys open bank accounts in DR and use the card from their DR bank to save on fees.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1176636]The ATM's charge 112 pesos for withdrawals on foreign accounts, that is $ 3. Not sure where you are getting the $5 from. I did leave the DR 3 weeks ago so it could have changed since I left but I don't think so.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected the slightly less thieving incompetent DR banks are receiving a little over $3US per ATM withdrawal and the more greedy thieving Chase Bank is receiving $5US per ATM withdrawal in the DR (for me $8US per transaction not $10). Would be nice if Chase could teach the DR banks how to program their ATM machines to function in multiple languages. Chase ATM machines in New York have the option to chose from about 8 different languages. In the DR, most ATM machines will not give you cash if you choose English, incompetence. The US taxpayer bailed out the big banks and the financial industry (US taxpayer assumed all the burden and guys who run the banks reaped all the reward, and this is how the favor is returned by charging outrageous fees and the politicians do nothing to protect the consumer, call chase and you will speak with someone at a call center in India).

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1176723]There is a reason my DR nickname is "tacaño." Basically, this is me in the DR:

[url]http://youtu.be/KNQRqAoT-2c[/url][/QUOTE]We must be related since I've had taxi drivers, chicas, souvenir dealers, and eveyone else in between call me "tacaño." The only people who call me this are those who are trying to hustle me out of money (and do not succeed!). I remember I was once at the beach and I asked one of the workers at the booth the cost of a drink. She told me and I said that it was much too expensive. She had the audacity to say that that was the price of the same drink in New York. I had to remind her that we were not in New York but in the Dominican Republic! An old ruse, expecting tourists not to know the prices, since many tourist have only as a reference point the cost in their own country!

Also, and it has happened to me, you order a drink, and the chica at the booth will get you (and herself!) a drink; expecting you to pay for her. I am careful about getting anything along the beach.

Then there is the chica who hangs out with you. You ask her what she wants and she orders the most expensive drink in the house. I try to be weary about this and suggest a presidente so the chica does not drive me bankrupt.

My favorite one is when a drink has one price at Merengue Bar, a higher price at Classicos, and two different prices at the bars at the opposite ends of Classicos! We had to complain to the bouncer about this.

Good and fair-minded survey of the whole issue, Boriman.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176660]Sidney's experience is not unique and I have made a complaint to management about being shortchanged in Passions. From my experience this happens when management is not paying attention or is not around. I do not see it often, though, but it does happen.![/QUOTE]Of course it wouldn't be unique. It can happen anywhere, even in Walmart. The reason I suggested it might be less common at Passions than in other working girl bars is that management does "pay attention" more there than in most other places because it is run by a European, not by a local. As I say, I hold no brief for Passions and if is closed down so we could all enjoy the same chicas at half the price I wouldn't be complaining (but that ain't going to happen!)

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176660]Sydney needs to complain since, like the experience just mentioned, one learns to lessen if not totally avoid losing money unnecessarily![/QUOTE]Yes, he was right to complain, and right to report it in a post, just as you did. (But then forget about it!). That way we can see if a consensus builds up. If we get a slew of posts saying that they were short-changed at Passions I might believe there is a general problem. But if that happened, Peter, who reads all the boards, would jump on the problem before it got out of hand. He is not some dumbass Dominican.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176660]As for receiving too much change I find that to be even more rare than being cheated out of money in Passions! The people in that country might not know how to count but, heck, giving too much change back! I have yet to read a report on that topic. Anyone out there who knows of a place in the DR that gives too much change back can you please PM me. That is a place I would like to give all my business to![/QUOTE]I have given surplus change back a couple of times, but in normal local shops rather than in tourist bars. Although once, surprisingly, was at the ticket window for Caribe Tours. In the humidity here notes can get stuck together. I mentioned that simply to illustrate that some short-changing might be down to innumeracy among honest people rather than intentional cheating. You are not going to find repeated instances of it at any one place, sorry!

[QUOTE=Boriman; 1176761]We must be related since I've had taxi drivers, chicas, souvenir dealers, and eveyone else in between call me "tacaño." The only people who call me this are those who are trying to hustle me out of money (and do not succeed!). I remember I was once at the beach and I asked one of the workers at the booth the cost of a drink. She told me and I said that it was much too expensive. She had the audacity to say that that was the price of the same drink in New York. I had to remind her that we were not in New York but in the Dominican Republic! An old ruse, expecting tourists not to know the prices, since many tourist have only as a reference point the cost in their own country!

Also, and it has happened to me, you order a drink, and the chica at the booth will get you (and herself!) a drink; expecting you to pay for her. I am careful about getting anything along the beach.

Then there is the chica who hangs out with you. You ask her what she wants and she orders the most expensive drink in the house. I try to be weary about this and suggest a presidente so the chica does not drive me bankrupt.

My favorite one is when a drink has one price at Merengue Bar, a higher price at Classicos, and two different prices at the bars at the opposite ends of Classicos! We had to complain to the bouncer about this.[/QUOTE]I don't know fellas. If I don't like a set price for something, I just move on. Why complain to a Dominican about a Dominican because you want to argue about their pricing structure. Protest by taking your money else where.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176761]We must be related since I've had taxi drivers, chicas, souvenir dealers, and eveyone else in between call me "tacaño." The only people who call me this are those who are trying to hustle me out of money (and do not succeed!).[/QUOTE]To me, it is always the broke ones who call you cheap. Whether it be pro or non-pro. You know what my answer to them is?"Well biotch you pay for it then!" That is why I'm not broke like you because I spend my money wisely and don't just throw it around like that.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1176382]The inflation of the last 2 years is incomprehensible! The 3rd highest in the world, only behind Zambia and Venezuela![/QUOTE]I just did a Google search and inflation here is less than 6, I have been living here for 2 years and I my pension income hasn't changed much insofar as my dollars to pesos are stretched. There is no income tax on moderate incomes, just a VAT tax. The government puts a lid on wages so working classes and poor are tense because of rising prices and stagnant wages. Sound familiiar? The same is happening in the USA.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1176871]I just did a Google search and inflation here is less than 6, I have been living here for 2 years and I my pension income hasn't changed much insofar as my dollars to pesos are stretched. There is no income tax on moderate incomes, just a VAT tax. The government puts a lid on wages so working classes and poor are tense because of rising prices and stagnant wages. Sound familiiar? The same is happening in the USA.[/QUOTE]I think Sidney's "incomprehensible" comment referred to Argentina, not the DR?

I think 6% p.a. Sounds about right for the DR, but that is unacceptable economically. Usual guidelines in normal times are 2 to 3 per cent but these are not normal times so inflation should be nearer 0%.

Inflation at 6% means prices increase by over a third in five years and there is no way wages in the DR are keeping pace with that. Many have gone down. (Not in the same jobs, but where people have lost their jobs and been forced to take a new one elsewhere at less money).

Still, so long as the people have baseball, television and music, and can sit in their doorways staring into space all day they will go on voting for the same gang of crooks as they have for decades. The party labels don't mean shit because they are all inter-married and co-operate on the same rackets, and the parties have no real programs or ideology anyway.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1176815]I don't know fellas. If I don't like a set price for something, I just move on. Why complain to a Dominican about a Dominican because you want to argue about their pricing structure. Protest by taking your money else where.[/QUOTE]You give good advice. I now ask for the price up front when I am upstairs at Classicos, to avoid being overcharged. I did not order the New York priced drink and now do not give that chica business. Everytime she sees me on the beach she recalls what happened and tries to play it off. My opinion is that if one cheats me I'll simply not go there again. They cheat me the first time shame on them. They cheat me the second time shame on me (I should have known better).

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176897]You give good advice. I now ask for the price up front when I am upstairs at Classicos, to avoid being overcharged. I did not order the New York priced drink and now do not give that chica business. Everytime she sees me on the beach she recalls what happened and tries to play it off. My opinion is that if one cheats me I'll simply not go there again. They cheat me the first time shame on them. They cheat me the second time shame on me (I should have known better).[/QUOTE]Mr. E gave the best advise. When you go into an establishment and the girls are rushing you, and everything is happening fast, ask for a menu. It gives you time to slow everything down and allows you to figure out if you should be there. If they continue to rush you and don't have a menu, then maybe you shouldn't be there.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1176897]You give good advice. I now ask for the price up front when I am upstairs at Classicos, to avoid being overcharged. I did not order the New York priced drink and now do not give that chica business. Everytime she sees me on the beach she recalls what happened and tries to play it off. My opinion is that if one cheats me I'll simply not go there again. They cheat me the first time shame on them. They cheat me the second time shame on me (I should have known better).[/QUOTE]Before I order anything at any place on this planet I always ask for a menu first. If there is not one available then of course I ask the price of what I am interested in. 8 years ago me and two wingmen were in a cabaret in Nice, France. As soon as we walked in they ordered drinks, while I asked for a menu. As they started to sip their drinks I showed them that the cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro. The price of their drinks was 40 euro each.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1176379]A Pro massage, no sex, = Keka, $14. Many others for $14 offer minimal massage, HJ's and BBBJ's. There is 1 lousy strip club= Bananas = not advised! Better places offering in-house sex are Carribean Men's Paradise and Passion's (watch out for being short-changed here). The best places for fine, young chicas after 10pm are: Merengue Bar, Classico's disco and Latino's. I'll show you guys around.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sidney. Will stay at Hotel Voramar just like you have recommended? $14 for pro massage is good price, where is Keka located? If you are in Sosua or near by, definitely, I buy you a beer! PM me if you want to.

Regards,

Strad

I would like one too please!

[QUOTE=Strad; 1176943]Thanks Sidney. Will stay at Hotel Voramar just like you have recommended? $14 for pro massage is good price, where is Keka located? If you are in Sosua or near by, definitely, I buy you a beer! PM me if you want to.

Regards,

Strad[/QUOTE]

Hi, in Sosua there is much tourism and may be it has become a little more expensive than other small towns like Puerto Plata, La Romana, etc. I mean for living and fucking. Some info please?

Thanks

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1177044]Hi, in Sosua there is much tourism and may be it has become a little more expensive than other small towns like Puerto Plata, La Romana, etc. I mean for living and fucking. Some info please?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sosua generally has been the town in the DR with the highest percentage of freelancers that could be found in a very small area. Boca Chica would be second. Puerto Plata has Blackbeards which has set prices and Puerto Plata has El Bohen and Crystals, which I have read are not cheap. I have read in the past that Puerto Plata had some bars where freelancers hung out, but those bars could be hit or miss.

With freelancers you have the ability to negotiate prices, some freelancers will try to rip off guys.

Guy what should I expect to pay for services in Sousa?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1177044]Hi, in Sosua there is much tourism and may be it has become a little more expensive than other small towns like Puerto Plata, La Romana, etc. I mean for living and fucking. Some info please? Thanks[/QUOTE]I can only speak for Puerto Plata. Rents here are mabe 20% to 25% cheaper than similar places in Sosúa but it is hard to compare the intangibles. There are fewer gringo style dwellings here and you don't have the advantage of lots of tourist type bars, restaurants and hotels concentrated within a small area if that is what you want (I don't). The supermarkets are maybe 5% cheaper here for the same goods. Impossible to compare for fucking because there is not the same selection of middle-price chicas immediately on offer that there is in Sosúa. You have Cristal and El Bohen at the expensive end of the range and many cheap Dominican bars where you have to hunt for diamonds in the rough, and often there are none.

I wouldn't have thought La Romana would be cheap because that is where a lot of wealthy Americans holiday.

All other towns (outside SD and Santiago) are going to be a lot cheaper for rents, a bit cheaper for food, and much cheaper for putas, but you then have to consider the expenses of finding your way around and being safe.

[QUOTE=Strad; 1176943]Thanks Sidney. Will stay at Hotel Voramar just like you have recommended? $14 for pro massage is good price, where is Keka located? If you are in Sosua or near by, definitely, I buy you a beer! PM me if you want to.

Regards,

Strad[/QUOTE]Near the intersection of Pedro Clisante and Dr Rosen. Best to call for appointment. 1 809 907 4236.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1177141]Near the intersection of Pedro Clisante and Dr Rosen. Best to call for appointment. 1 809 907 4236.[/QUOTE]Skinny with a mole on her face, gives a good massage. Years ago she worked at M & M massage in the plaza near Baileys restaurant. Then she opened her own massage place, she once told me she had a massage place in cabarete as well. I drove her home one night, I drove her to I believe La Union (?) , the place with a a bunch of houses, between the airport and sosua. She is a pleasant chica, I never did anything with her.

Her massage place in Sosua is near where Seacrets used to be, entrance to the stairs is about 50 feet from the sidewalk, with a barber shop on the first floor (years ago I was there).

AMRATS are zealously giving ' no helmet' tickets today. While ignoring all serious violations. Damm, I just barely missed one of the Rats as he ran between 2 parked cars to issue a ticket.

I'm suppose to be in Sosua on Monday to celebrate my birthday. I read a lot of spots closed up recently. What are some good spots that haven't been shutdown to celebrate my birthday?

[QUOTE=Amb832;1177219]I'm suppose to be in Sosua on Monday to celebrate my birthday. I read a lot of spots closed up recently. What are some good spots that haven't been shutdown to celebrate my birthday?[/QUOTE]Restaurants and bars open and close all the time in any vacation town, Sosua is no exception. You will have a good time

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1177146]Skinny with a mole on her face, gives a good massage. Years ago she worked at M & M massage in the plaza near Baileys restaurant. Then she opened her own massage place, she once told me she had a massage place in cabarete as well. I drove her home one night, I drove her to I believe La Union (?) , the place with a a bunch of houses, between the airport and sosua. She is a pleasant chica, I never did anything with her.

Her massage place in Sosua is near where Seacrets used to be, entrance to the stairs is about 50 feet from the sidewalk, with a barber shop on the first floor (years ago I was there).[/QUOTE]M and M massage is till going strong, located in the Colonial Plaza to the right of the Banco Popular. Ask for Luz Maria, she gives the best proffesional massage in town.

I need someones advise about this. I have been going to DR for vacations and had novia spend time with me when I was there. But now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. Now this is my problem, I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)

[QUOTE=Sidney;1177153]AMRATS are zealously giving ' no helmet' tickets today. While ignoring all serious violations. Damm, I just barely missed one of the Rats as he ran between 2 parked cars to issue a ticket.[/QUOTE]More riders, male and female, are wearing helmets now in DR. I saw some people wearing ill-fitting helmets which reminded me of the Great Gazoo from the Flintstones, LOL.

Must be hot to have a helmet on, in that heat and strong sun.

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[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177268]I need someones advise about this. I have been going to DR for vacations and had novia spend time with me when I was there. But now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. Now this is my problem, [b]I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble[/b] or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/QUOTE]Well, at least if you decide to ride bareback there is no worries of getting her pregnant. Feel free to not pull out : D

[quote=seiko1999;1177268]i need someones advise about this. i have been going to dr for vacations and had novia spend time with me when i was there. but now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. now this is my problem, i have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? she says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/quote]okay playa, several things come to me from your post. first thing is you probaly don't have kids since you don't know about prego pussy. second you're not pissed that some dominicano knocked your girl up. and third, you don't realize that the dominicano is in on the hustle.

prego pussy is the best sometimes. so just bang her then drop her for trying to be slick. unless you want to find yourself in duty free at the airport buying [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url].

[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177268]I need someones advise about this. I have been going to DR for vacations and had novia spend time with me when I was there. But now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. Now this is my problem, I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/QUOTE]If you want the experience with a preggie I guess this would be a good opportunity.

The common sense advice is to just cut her loose since you do not want to be caught by her novio. On the other hand maybe he skipped town and she could now seriously use the money! Cutting her loose will avoid all this guesswork!

I could be wrong because there are more experienced people on this board but this looks like an opportunity to milk you for more money ('. Mi bambino vas a necesitar leche ['my bambino will need milk]. Gasto de medico para mi nuevo bambino [medical expenses for my newborn baby]). Also, if you did not know until know that she had a husband or another boyfriend than she has been lying to you all along (which is expected! It is quite obvious, to her at least, that you are not the only fish in the sea!)

Also, if she is pregnant she cannot work the streets like she normally would. She is not making the amount of money she would usually earn.

I recall every time I went to DR I would bump into this chica named China. One time as we were coming out of the Europa some big Dominican guy pulls up on a motoconcho. He started yelling at her as I glued myself to the wall, saying nothing. The guy was pretty cool in that he did not once bother me. After this I did the chica maybe once and afterwards did not want to bother with her since I did not want to deal with the headache of her man. Sometimes it is difficult to detach ourselves but we have to sometimes because the situation has become more complicated. One feels sorry but these chicas will survive, with or without you. It is quite obvious that even if you are Western Unioning them they will still not depend just on you for money (just in case you cut the supply line)

Again, common sense advice is to cut her loose but if you do not it is understandable. Sometimes it is hard just to let a good thing go. Even with the best of us as detached as we want to be every so often we become attached to someone. I hope this advice helps and I have not offended you in any way!

[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177268]I need someones advise about this. I have been going to DR for vacations and had novia spend time with me when I was there. But now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. Now this is my problem, I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/QUOTE]Long time ago, I fucked a half colombian, half dominican stripper in new york, who was about 6 months pregnant. It was fun, titties were big from the pregnancy. I read somewhere that some doctors suggest a pregnant woman should have sex, to help keep the vagina limber, which would help during a vaginal birth.

I remember meeting some chicas in Sosua a long time ago and one of them was pregnant and they were joking that if I went with the pregnant one, it would be like having sex with two people. They were vulgar in the jokes they were making.

In the DR, with so many chicas available, not sure if I would want to be hanging out with a six month pregnant chica for all of my vacation. Morning sickness and vomiting, some pregnant women get. People who see you with her, will assume you are the father. If you want to pop her a few times, fine, but to spend your whole vacation with her, I don't think I would do it, unless she was some magical lay.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1177106]. You have Cristal and El Bohen at the expensive end of the range.[/QUOTE]Manizales just reported in the Puerto Plata section than El Bohen has closed.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1177282]More riders, male and female, are wearing helmets now in DR. I saw some people wearing ill-fitting helmets which reminded me of the Great Gazoo from the Flintstones, LOL.

Must be hot to have a helmet on, in that heat and strong sun.

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When you see some riders in DR with over-sized silver helmets, maybe some people will remember the great gazoo.

Hi, I'd like to know if October low-season or high-season for Sosua. Are prices for fucking the same during all year?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177268]I need someones advise about this. I have been going to DR for vacations and had novia spend time with me when I was there. But now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. Now this is my problem, I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/QUOTE]CUT HER LOOSE. The only one who stands to lose under these circumstances is you.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1177343]Hi, I'd like to know if October low-season or high-season for Sosua. Are prices for fucking the same during all year?

Thanks[/QUOTE]October is neither high nor low season. In all countries October is a school month, so families are not on the move much. From the point of view of weather, it is still hot in October in the DR, but the weather is unpredictable as this is the tail end of the hurricane season and it is possible to see tropical storms and heavy rains or fine sunny weather.

You do not understand at all. Fucking is not a commodity like oil that undergoes seasonal price variations. If you go to a place iwth a set price menu like La Passion, the prices do not adjust seasonally.

The amount that you might pay for sex with a freelancer would depend on numerous factors like the attractiveness of the girl, how attractive she finds you, what her financial needs are, how good a negotiator she is, how good a negotiator you are, and a host of other factors. You are dealing with individual human beings selling their only commercial asset for survival. Any theoretical price variations related to seasonality will be swamped by other factors. If this is too hard to understand, you may be better off staying at home.

[QUOTE=Twice Divorced;1177345]CUT HER LOOSE. The only one who stands to lose under these circumstances is you.[/QUOTE]For seiko about the pregnant girl?

How many months? I have fucked pregnant girls and have absolutely enjoyed it.

But you may be better to cut her loose as her life is much more complicated now

And yes you can lose in so many ways with her situation.

But if she is good and not too many months pregnant and you know the risks with her life? And situation?

Then it might be fun to try it out?

[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177268]...Now this is my problem, I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/QUOTE]One of my most memorable DR experiences was back in early 2005, when I let a good friend sleep over because she was having family problems. She was about 7-months pregnant at the time. Because it was a studio apartment, with only one bed, we shared it. I wasn't that interested in banging a 19-year old pregnant Dominican girl, but I knew my "morning wood" might say something different, so I created a sleeping arrangement. She could stay the night free of charge, no freebies for me (excluding gropes grabs and hugs) and if I got horny and hard, I would pay her for her services ($RD500 for f/s and $RD300 for a blow-job, CIM). Well, for 5-7 mornings straight, she would either wake-up with a dick in her mouth or a dick in her pussy (spoon and/or doggie). Afterward, I would make breakfast, then we would go our separate ways until about 11pm every evening.

I wouldn't want to spend a whole day with a pregnant woman, but all my sleeping nights and waking mornings, HELL YES!!!!!

BTW, I briefly refer to the arrangement with Yennifer in this trip report. [b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?501-Boca-Chica&p=338429&viewfull=1#post338429]New Years in Boca (Great Day! a.k.a. the Gap-Toothed Girl)[/url][/b]

-Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Frannie;1177356]October is neither high nor low season. In all countries October is a school month, so families are not on the move much. From the point of view of weather, it is still hot in October in the DR, but the weather is unpredictable as this is the tail end of the hurricane season and it is possible to see tropical storms and heavy rains or fine sunny weather.[/QUOTE]Reading your writing I understand in October mongering is better at Santo Domingo instead of Sosua. Is it right? Could Sousa be disappointing in October?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1177390]Reading your writing I understand in October mongering is better at Santo Domingo instead of Sosua. Is it right? Could Sousa be disappointing in October?[/QUOTE]Santo Domingo is better in the second week in October, Sosua in the third week, except alternate Thursdays.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1177400]Santo Domingo is better in the second week in October, Sosua in the third week, except alternate Thursdays.[/QUOTE]What happens on alternate Thursdays?

[QUOTE=Member #2041;1177402]What happens on alternate Thursdays?[/QUOTE]Western Union day!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1177390]Reading your writing I understand in October mongering is better at Santo Domingo instead of Sosua. Is it right? Could Sousa be disappointing in October?[/QUOTE]The only time mongering might be a little light is during the holidays when chicas spend time with their families, mongering is otherwise a 365/24/7 activity. Oh, rain sometimes slows down the flow of pussy since chicas generally frown upon wetting their hair. But a propina for the salon works, and it that does not mean an extra $RD2, 000!

Thanks for all responses. She wants to take 8hour bus ride to come and stay with me in boca chica but I have to cut her loose and let the hunt begin for new vacation chica.

[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177268]I need someones advise about this. I have been going to DR for vacations and had novia spend time with me when I was there. But now she is prangnent by a boyfriend or hasband and yet she wants to spend my next vacation wich is coming in augest with me by saying her hasband will be at work in bavaro and he won't know. Now this is my problem, I have never had sex with pragnent women, will sex be enjoyeble or just forgget about it and move on to other chica? She says (todo via estoy enbarazada solo tengo 6 meses)[/QUOTE]I once picked up a pregnant girl in Mexico. She was very sweet, but only about 3 months. I did not find out until we got to a place I rented for the night, and she removed her jacket. After some hesitation, we got into it. I suggest you do not do missionary, so as not to hurt her. It was quite a positive experience.

Helpmann,

Jennifer looks SOOO familiar. Looks like a pregnant girl I met at a church picnic in Costambar. She was staying with her aunt and uncle. Very nice girl.

[QUOTE=Uktraveler;1177444]The only advantage now that she's pregnant is that you can go bareback and cum in her.[/QUOTE]The only advantage is not knocking a prego up, otherwise BUYER BEWARE as always!

[QUOTE=Seiko1999;1177471]Thanks for all responses. She wants to take 8hour bus ride to come and stay with me in boca chica but I have to cut her loose and let the hunt begin for new vacation chica.[/QUOTE]Nice looking chica.

There was a discussion a while back about renting motorcycles in DR. I wouldn't do it. I had one one dog run into the side of the car, that dog hurt his leg and continued his mad dash to get to the other side of the road. I have had dogs at night try to attack my car and chase after my car and I have seen dogs chase after and try to bite people on scooters and motorcycles. Various different types of debris on some roads, some stuff that falls off other vehicles. I got two flat tires on the same day my last trip, v shaped gouges in the sidewalls, the tires seemed liked they could not be repaired. Driving a motorcycle, usually no spare tire or tools, with the numerous road hazards in DR, I would not do it.

Apart from beautiful weather, a fine beach, charming lanes lined with fragrant poinciana, jacaranda, bougainvillea, and hibiscus, fine restaurants with a variety of cuisines, German bakeries, bars with native Dominican musics such as bachata and merengue, cheap but comfortable hotels, Sosua really doesn't have much going for it these days compared to the joys of suburbia in the US, Walmart and Oprah Winfrey reruns.

Except for the nymphomaniacs.

My amigo tempocorto now has his boots on the ground in Sosua, or maybe that should be his pants on the ground, and after I introduced him to his first four or five women, and negotiated his first 800 peso fuckfest, he has picked up Spanish like a native and is now scouting his own talent at a prodigious rate, with a steady stream of Internet cuties reporting for duty at his lodgings.

Badoo. Com seems to play host to numerous small business located in the Dominican Republic in which whole families of young women provide private massage therapy to jaded visitors and tourists for a modest copayment.

Even for an old codger like me, it is alarming how difficult it is to avoid sexual excess. For example, this afternoon after 45 minutes of vigorous lap swimming I was just lying down on my sofa to recuperate, when there is a tap on the door and one of the most delightful and beautful women I have EVER met insists on putting me through a course of exercises that include tongue wrestling and pelvic thrusting, before continuing on her milk round happily clutching two freshly printed 500 peso bills. Fortunately I didn't have to tell her that I had barely recovered from a workout the previous night with a young female private trainer who conveniently resides in the same complex as myself and had decided to stop by for a loosener before dancing the night away at a local disco.

You can run, but you can't hide, and they will eventually hunt you down and strip away your defenses. This is why so many of the male residents of Sosua appear decrepit and exhausted and have a bottle of Presidente permanently available so that the smell of beer can mask the overwhelming scent of heated pussy and burning latex that hangs over the town like a pall of smoke and can easily cause PTSD flashbacks to the vulnerable.

I strongly recommend that ISG members stay away from this town, because of the dangers of becoming addicted to pleasure. It is far healthier to stay at home, watch some Internet porn, and use the hand of choice in the appropriate location than to waste your money in this hellhole where you may be at the mercy of sex hungry young women.

What a lot of BS, Frannie. Everyone knows Sosúa is dead. We have been assured of that by experts, some of whom have spend as long as two weeks there without finding any fairly-priced pussy and without even setting eyes on a Haitian.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1177838]What a lot of BS, Frannie. Everyone knows Sosúa is dead. We have been assured of that by experts, some of whom have spend as long as two weeks there without finding any fairly-priced pussy and without even setting eyes on a Haitian.[/QUOTE]I think they may have missed one or two Haitianas due to poor visibity at night in the discos, as they tend to hide in dark corners and may not be seen unless they show their teeth. A small laser beam flashlight such as can be obtained at Walmart for about $2 may be a useful piece of equipment under the circumstances.

I have to admit that the 800 peso pussy may have been towards the end of its depreciable life, but it was reported to me that it was still very serviceable and appeared to have been regularly lubricated and maintained. Yesterday I was able to examine a 19 year old 1000 peso Haitian export model that appeared to be in original mint condition and the owner confirmed that it had only been used for joyriding and not for delivery purposes.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1177822]Apart from beautiful weather, a fine beach, charming lanes lined with fragrant poinciana, jacaranda, bougainvillea, and hibiscus, fine restaurants with a variety of cuisines, German bakeries, bars with native Dominican musics such as bachata and merengue, cheap but comfortable hotels, Sosua really doesn't have much going for it these days compared to the joys of suburbia in the US, Walmart and Oprah Winfrey reruns.

Except for the nymphomaniacs.

My amigo tempocorto now has his boots on the ground in Sosua, or maybe that should be his pants on the ground, and after I introduced him to his first four or five women, and negotiated his first 800 peso fuckfest, he has picked up Spanish like a native and is now scouting his own talent at a prodigious rate, with a steady stream of Internet cuties reporting for duty at his lodgings.

Badoo. Com seems to play host to numerous small business located in the Dominican Republic in which whole families of young women provide private massage therapy to jaded visitors and tourists for a modest copayment.

Even for an old codger like me, it is alarming how difficult it is to avoid sexual excess. For example, this afternoon after 45 minutes of vigorous lap swimming I was just lying down on my sofa to recuperate, when there is a tap on the door and one of the most delightful and beautful women I have EVER met insists on putting me through a course of exercises that include tongue wrestling and pelvic thrusting, before continuing on her milk round happily clutching two freshly printed 500 peso bills. Fortunately I didn't have to tell her that I had barely recovered from a workout the previous night with a young female private trainer who conveniently resides in the same complex as myself and had decided to stop by for a loosener before dancing the night away at a local disco.

You can run, but you can't hide, and they will eventually hunt you down and strip away your defenses. This is why so many of the male residents of Sosua appear decrepit and exhausted and have a bottle of Presidente permanently available so that the smell of beer can mask the overwhelming scent of heated pussy and burning latex that hangs over the town like a pall of smoke and can easily cause PTSD flashbacks to the vulnerable.

I strongly recommend that ISG members stay away from this town, because of the dangers of becoming addicted to pleasure. It is far healthier to stay at home, watch some Internet porn, and use the hand of choice in the appropriate location than to waste your money in this hellhole where you may be at the mercy of sex hungry young women.[/QUOTE]You have summarised very well how bad Sosua these days. Continue to scare away the masses, leaves more for me and you.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1177858]I think they may have missed one or two Haitianas due to poor visibity at night in the discos, as they tend to hide in dark corners and may not be seen unless they show their teeth. A small laser beam flashlight such as can be obtained at Walmart for about $2 may be a useful piece of equipment under the circumstances.

I have to admit that the 800 peso pussy may have been towards the end of its depreciable life, but it was reported to me that it was still very serviceable and appeared to have been regularly lubricated and maintained. Yesterday I was able to examine a 19 year old 1000 peso Haitian export model that appeared to be in original mint condition and the owner confirmed that it had only been used for joyriding and not for delivery purposes.[/QUOTE]Frannie,

I find your post rather evasive! You have yet to answer key questions. Did she have a nice set of headlights? Was she like a small compact car with all the options or was she the size of an SUV? I assume that she is a front entry model and not one that allows rear entry? How were her shocks and did she absorb well the good bump and grind of the road?

Was she on automatic when you did her or did she have to handle you dickshift. Er. Ahh. I mean your stickshift? (excuse the original misspelling of the word! Believe me it was unintentional!). Did she purr like a kitten when you rode her or was her muffler backfiring everytime you revved up her engine?

[QUOTE=Uktraveler; 1177894]Perhaps the actual "summary" eluded you, but when you're sober enough to drill down thru the lofty rhetoric and into the actual substance of what he wrote (such that it is) all you're left with is Badoo and his apt complex for any action.

Yeah, you guys are really getting over on us!

Signed, the scared masses[/QUOTE]I don't know. I think everything is moving to the Internet these days.

Here's an interesting story. A young lady I have spent some time with came to Sosua with a female friend and rented a room for a month in the hope of striking it rich. Both of them went two weeks before they were able to score a paid sex date. They were both cock a hoop and high fiving, if you will pardon the expression, when they finally scored. Both of them are quite attractive.

The interesting point, to me, was that she and the other girl had not known each other before, but had met on Facebook and decided to team up for the Big Sosua Adventure. The other girl who is 19 had been to Germany last November to visit a novio, but didn't like it due to the cold, lack of Dominicans, etc.

It was reported to me that Sunday night the disco was pretty busy and that there were five girls for every boy.

Actually I quite like the new Sosua. I was out tonight for a meal at an excellent Italian restaurant with a couple of companions and able to enjoy a leisurely dinner at a sidewalk table under the stars without once being solicited while eating. The beach was moderately busy on Sunday with many Dominican families picknicking and listening to bachata music and little overt evidence of the sex trade on show.

You can look at it from both sides. You have girls saying they can't find enough single male tourists, and you have some single male tourists saying they can't meet enough girls. There is no doubt that the tourism business overall is slow, but certainly if you are on the ground here, you will probably be more hunted than hunting.

My amigo, as well as calling up girls from Badoo, has been taking numbers at the disco at night, and then booty calling the next day with great success.

As far as prices. 1000 to 1200 pesos will nearly always do the trick. I did have one quote of 2000 pesos, but this was a rather attractive girl of 25 with no kids who states that she has never done sex with a foreigner before, and never for money, only with a couple of Dominican boyfriends, and has turned down many offers, but now will let me do the deed because she needs the money. Of course with these scenarios you never exactly know the truth of the matter, but she seems to have been candid in the discussions I have had with her. So far I have her in a holding pattern as there are many other options on the table involving established performers with a proven track record, and while the idea has its attractions, it might not be money well spent if she didn't feel good about what she was doing.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1177822]Apart from beautiful weather, a fine beach, charming lanes lined with fragrant poinciana, jacaranda, bougainvillea, and hibiscus, fine restaurants with a variety of cuisines, German bakeries, bars with native Dominican musics such as bachata and merengue, cheap but comfortable hotels, Sosua really doesn't have much going for it these days compared to the joys of suburbia in the US, Walmart and Oprah Winfrey reruns.

Except for the nymphomaniacs.

My amigo tempocorto now has his boots on the ground in Sosua, or maybe that should be his pants on the ground, and after I introduced him to his first four or five women, and negotiated his first 800 peso fuckfest, he has picked up Spanish like a native and is now scouting his own talent at a prodigious rate, with a steady stream of Internet cuties reporting for duty at his lodgings.

Badoo. Com seems to play host to numerous small business located in the Dominican Republic in which whole families of young women provide private massage therapy to jaded visitors and tourists for a modest copayment.

Even for an old codger like me, it is alarming how difficult it is to avoid sexual excess. For example, this afternoon after 45 minutes of vigorous lap swimming I was just lying down on my sofa to recuperate, when there is a tap on the door and one of the most delightful and beautful women I have EVER met insists on putting me through a course of exercises that include tongue wrestling and pelvic thrusting, before continuing on her milk round happily clutching two freshly printed 500 peso bills. Fortunately I didn't have to tell her that I had barely recovered from a workout the previous night with a young female private trainer who conveniently resides in the same complex as myself and had decided to stop by for a loosener before dancing the night away at a local disco.

You can run, but you can't hide, and they will eventually hunt you down and strip away your defenses. This is why so many of the male residents of Sosua appear decrepit and exhausted and have a bottle of Presidente permanently available so that the smell of beer can mask the overwhelming scent of heated pussy and burning latex that hangs over the town like a pall of smoke and can easily cause PTSD flashbacks to the vulnerable.

I strongly recommend that ISG members stay away from this town, because of the dangers of becoming addicted to pleasure. It is far healthier to stay at home, watch some Internet porn, and use the hand of choice in the appropriate location than to waste your money in this hellhole where you may be at the mercy of sex hungry young women.[/QUOTE]LMAO! Classic! I want to confirm for myself how bad it is by planning a trip in August ;)

[QUOTE=Uktraveler; 1177894]Perhaps the actual "summary" eluded you, but when you're sober enough to drill down thru the lofty rhetoric and into the actual substance of what he wrote (such that it is) all you're left with is Badoo and his apt complex for any action.

Yeah, you guys are really getting over on us!

Signed, the scared masses[/QUOTE]I wouldn't down play the power of the internet whether it be DIA, Badoo, etc. I think we all got your point from your many posts that Sosua no longer has anything to offer to you. Ok, that's fine, move on to another location and stop worry about other's decisions. If Sosua is a bad choice for Mongering everyone will make their own opinion about that. Every locations have its pros & cons. We all realize that. Cheers!

You guys are cracking me up. Almost made me spill my beer laughing at these posts.

Thanks. Pipe

[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1177949]You guys are cracking me up. Almost made me spill my beer laughing at these posts.

Thanks. Pipe[/QUOTE]Damn Pipe Layer,

I was just about to post the same thought. But I would include "The sky is falling UKtraveler" to the list. I will be back there for the 4th time within a year in August and I really hope there is a ounce of pussy left for this monger. Hell, I might have to cross the border to Haiti to get some ass, if so; so be it!

Since there are no more chicas in Sosua, are there any XXX video stores in the area? Might have to TCB myself, LOL.

[QUOTE=Uktraveler;1177894]Yeah, you guys are really getting over on us![/QUOTE]I am still waiting for the pics from a few weeks ago from the guy who had sex with everything from a midget to a MILF and the ugly one was a 9. 5. Funny how these guys mysteriously lose their camera on the way home or sobered up?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1178020]Since there are no more chicas in Sosua, are there any XXX video stores in the area? Might have to TCB myself, LOL.[/QUOTE]You and your right hand will be very happy!

[QUOTE=Sidney;1178049]You and your right hand will be very happy![/QUOTE]Uktraveler, or Under Knowledge Traveler, Man get a life I've been to Sosua, in both the.

Heyday actually, the end of the good old days, and recently 3months ago, yes! Its.

Changed, but its still more sex than a thousand men could handle, I love the way,

Someone put it, you are the one hunted by countless, female lions, tigers and bears.

Oh my. So all you newbies go to Sosua, have a blast, soak up all the information.

This board offers, plus don't forget to report back on your highlights and even your.

Low lights, its a learning expierience, youll never forget, and ignore the Underachieving.

Kluck Traveler the sky aint falling, and Sosua is alive and well. Undersized Kilt Traveler.

And yes theres so much sex in Sosua, that both your left and right hands will be bored!

Hi, I know October is low season, at Sousa ere there the same number of girls?

Thanks for some info

Fellas on the ground. How is the talent in CMP and La passions? I was there a few months back and the girls in CMP were horrible. Any cuties?

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1178458]Fellas on the ground. How is the talent in CMP and La passions? I was there a few months back and the girls in CMP were horrible. Any cuties?[/QUOTE]CMP sucks in my opinion, the girls aren't that great and they are extremely pushy. I was in La Passion a few times last week and they had a ton of girls early but on Friday by about 1:00 am they were almost "sold out". The talent quality was very very good, I don't pull from there often but my friends do.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1178458]Fellas on the ground. How is the talent in CMP and La passions? I was there a few months back and the girls in CMP were horrible. Any cuties?[/QUOTE]Cmp still sucks. My favorite lorena left passions. Go for carol or nicaury

Is there a Sosua monger map? How do I get to Sosua from Bocs Chica and back? I am thinking of heading off to Coasta Rica, San Jose, then to Lima, Peru, then to DM. Any recommendation on the best monger country course?

Best Regards

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1178162]Uktraveler, or Under Knowledge Traveler, Man get a life I've been to Sosua, in both the.

Heyday actually, the end of the good old days, and recently 3months ago, yes! Its.

Changed, but its still more sex than a thousand men could handle, I love the way,

Someone put it, you are the one hunted by countless, female lions, tigers and bears.

Oh my. So all you newbies go to Sosua, have a blast, soak up all the information.

This board offers, plus don't forget to report back on your highlights and even your.

Low lights, its a learning expierience, youll never forget, and ignore the Underachieving.

Kluck Traveler the sky aint falling, and Sosua is alive and well. Undersized Kilt Traveler.

And yes theres so much sex in Sosua, that both your left and right hands will be bored![/QUOTE]Sosua might not be the same as in the old days but action is always to be had. When I was last there, around February, there was never a problem finding chicas (I did a report when I returned!).

While in Sosua I would sometimes return at about 6:30 in the morning and there was action still to be had at the late night club at the end of Clisante (if there was no action why would I be up so late at night!)

I found less beggars, less motoconchos harasssing me, less chicas bothering me, and it seemed much more pleasant. I loved the old days but the new days are not all that bad. I read all the reports about Sosua before going in February and expected a real struggle finding action but I still found chicas to mess with (this is not even counting Passions and CMP!). It might not be the glory days but, heck, it is also not a cemetery. Between the bars on Sosua, Passions, CMP, the cheap massage places with happy endings (Belkis, for example) , the chicas on the beach (if you cannot find any just ask the guy who rent you the chairs. He'll call some over) , and the chicas you spend time with who can call other chicas, there should never be a shortage. I was there for two weeks and half the time I found some chica action. The other half I spent doing everything else (drinking, eating, going to other towns, etc.). I will say that two weeks is much too long of a time to be in Sosua but I liked my stay there and regret coming back home.

I find much less action walking in the streets nowadays but the irony is that when I first arrived in Sosua, several months ago, the very first chica that I bumped into was at about 3:30 PM, in front of Latinos! She was walking with some cuties. I felt her friends were overcharging so I did not bother.

Rumors of Sosua's death have been greatly exagerrated!

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[QUOTE=Cabal; 1178632]Is there a Sosua monger map? How do I get to Sosua from Bocs Chica and back? I am thinking of heading off to Coasta Rica, San Jose, then to Lima, Peru, then to DM. Any recommendation on the best monger country course?

Best Regards[/QUOTE]Google Map. Boca Chica to Sosua [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Boca[/url]+Chica, +Santo+Domingo, +Dominican+Republic&daddr=Sosua, +Puerto+Plata, +Dominican+Republic&hl=en&sll=37. 0625-95. 677068&sspn=37. 273371, 79. 013672&geocode=FYKVGQEd2uPZ-ylF1mYtT36vjjFzfroeXTM4zA%3BFXBcLQEdQPPL-ykn7e1fheOxjjGCz8anTo5uEA&mra=ls&z=9.

Or take a bus or taxi depending on your budget. I would suggest you make a stop over in Santo Domingo since it is on the way and check out the action there depending on time you have available.

[QUOTE=Lopkx; 1178747]Google Map. Boca Chica to Sosua.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Boca[/url]

+Chica, +Santo+Domingo, +Dominican+Republic&daddr=Sosua, +Puerto+Plata, +Dominican+Republic&hl=en&sll=37. 0625-95. 677068&sspn=37. 273371, 79. 013672&geocode=FYKVGQEd2uPZ-ylF1mYtT36vjjFzfroeXTM4zA%3BFXBcLQEdQPPL-ykn7e1fheOxjjGCz8anTo5uEA&mra=ls&z=9.

Or take a bus or taxi depending on your budget. I would suggest you make a stop over in Santo Domingo since it is on the way and check out the action there depending on time you have available.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, how do I copy and past for a google map with markings of best hotels, girl locations, and clubs, etc for Sosua and Santo Domingo. I just keep getting routes with no intel.

[QUOTE=Cabal;1178804]Thanks for the reply, how do I copy and past for a google map with markings of best hotels, girl locations, and clubs, etc for Sosua and Santo Domingo. I just keep getting routes with no intel.[/QUOTE]With the google map on your computer screen, hit the "print screen" button on your keyboard. Then open microsoft paint (usually comes installed on most computers). Once paint is open, look at the toolbar, click "edit" then "paste".

You can write words or make markings on the google map you copied. You can then save it into JPEG file format and thereafter open it with a photo editing program, to crop out the parts you don't want.

To post on the ISG the pic can be no larger than 640 pixels by 640 pixels. I use microsoft office picture manager to resize photos. You can also right click over the pic, click properties, then details, then click "remove properties and personal information", select all, then ok.

[QUOTE=Cabal;1178632]How do I get to Sosua from Bocs Chica and back? I am thinking of heading off to Coasta Rica, San Jose, then to Lima, Peru, then to DM. Any recommendation on the best monger country course?[/QUOTE]I went to Peru twice and I can tell you Lima is a beatifull paradise for non-pro fucking. In Lima there are wonderful girls but you will need to find them.

[QUOTE=Cabal;1178804]Thanks for the reply, how do I copy and past for a google map with markings of best hotels, girl locations, and clubs, etc for Sosua and Santo Domingo. I just keep getting routes with no intel.[/QUOTE]The one I sent you originally was purely for driving purposes. Here's intel maps that members created. I would also recommend you review & search the forum a lot of information that will help you. Good luck.

Sosua.

http://i952. p hotobucket.com/albums/ae2/ej_hoes/Sosua/sosua-map-changeable_current.jpg (MAKE SURE YOU REMOVE THE SPACING IN THE URL FOR IT TO WORK)

Santo Domingo.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&ll=18.467703[/url]

Hi I am new to this site and I wanted to ask experienced members if they have had any problems posting pictures of people who did not know their pics were posted and complained about it. What I am saying is has it ever got back to anyone? I know this is probably the wrong way to send out a message but I wil figure it out later. Someone told me that another site named Takemebacktososua. Com which is brand new had the ability to hide pics from being seen from the DR. I have been told not to worry about it because everyone is anonymous and the web is so big it does not matter. I have not seen anyone talking about having a problem so I guess I am just being paranoid and any pic I post of someone here won't reveal my identity, right? I don't want a girl I like to bop me on the head the next time I see her.

Thanks

[QUOTE=RobbyRob; 1178926]Hi I am new to this site and I wanted to ask experienced members if they have had any problems posting pictures of people who did not know their pics were posted and complained about it. What I am saying is has it ever got back to anyone? I know this is probably the wrong way to send out a message but I wil figure it out later. Someone told me that another site named Takemebacktososua. Com which is brand new had the ability to hide pics from being seen from the DR. I have been told not to worry about it because everyone is anonymous and the web is so big it does not matter. I have not seen anyone talking about having a problem so I guess I am just being paranoid and any pic I post of someone here won't reveal my identity, right? I don't want a girl I like to bop me on the head the next time I see her.

Thanks[/QUOTE]You already plugged your website in the photo gallery. There is no need to spam us with more shameless plugs. Thanks!

Well, actually it is more like. I came, saw and lost!

Acknowledgments first: I have to formally thank Frannie – who was both extremely kind and generous with his time, advice and hand holding (actually even spoon-feeding my initial forays). I even discussed Toynbee and Gibbon with him not to speak of Jane Austen – an amazing coincidence. I also need to thank Charles Pooter (who I unfortunately could not meet during my short 6 night stay) for his critical and helpful comments at the planning phase.

Finally, I would like to thank and I do not know who (as I cannot find the report). Someone on this DR forum laid out a plan as to how to get contacts on the web prior to arrival and the modus operandi thereafter. Now, while I did amass a lot of such contacts – many came to see me from Puerto Plata.some of which worked wonderfully and some not, I do think it is perfectly okay not to have any game plan whatsoever –which probably is the beauty of the place.

Veni: I landed at Puerto Plata – rode a public taxi (driver +six passengers in a Toyota Corolla) along with Frannie who was kind enough to come to the airport to alleviate the beginner's blues. For 50 peso, I got a ride to Sosua and there on walked to the hotel. It was perfectly okay for me, even on a hot sunny summer day.

Stay: I stayed at a hotel called Romanoff. This is an apartment hotel. People can pay a little more for the apartments as compared to the room which is what I had. I also settled for a non-A / C room and indeed barring the late afternoons, the temperature was almost always pleasant with low humidity and with a fan going, I had no trouble sleeping.

I understand the hotel does not have a website but you should be able to google the contact details.

Chica- friendly: I see this coming out as a regular topic of concern. One afternoon, I was sitting outside chatting with a group of guys (English, Dutch, German, French Canadian, Italian and indeed Russian –the owner) and of all ages as we also watched games walking by. Personally, I enjoyed shooting the breeze with these guys in as many languages as chasing the women. I was speaking with the owner when my appointment (from the Disco contact) arrived. The owner, a 70 year old with an immaculate English accent, looked at me and said: 'well, I see that we will have to postpone our discussion for later', with a wink. Hopefully that tells you what the place is like in terms of the relaxed mood that prevails. It is a quiet place – no partying or bragging rights game. There are many long term residents who live in this quiet, tree covered / adorned apartments which are probably not as sleek as newly renovated properties but it did it for me (I am also a cheapskate!).

I paid $30 for the room per day and it was clean. I do want to warn you that if you fancy extra comfort or a glitzy environment, this is not it. I found it to be a place, which is extremely non-judgmental, clean with all the basic amenities we take for granted in the western world and very much a fraternal environment with respect for all. Located in a quiet street (City Hall is on the same street) with very little noise, I loved the idea of walking to Clissante.Main street – a 10 minutes walk perhaps to the Merengue bar, as I discovered avocado, mango, lime and numerous other fruit trees with fruits hanging, pointed out to me by a 20 year old who was very knowledgeable on these as she hailed from the country.

Vidi: This was my first trip to Sosua (and D. R) and so I did not know what to expect. Nonetheless, here is my impression:

1. The Main street – I liked it because it came across as quaint to me – tree lined, not much noise when I visited, one way and full of European restaurants. We dined at an Austrian place, and an Italian place. Food quality was excellent (I lived in EU for long and am used to the real European food). By the way, there is an Italian restaurant called Bologna. Which is as genuine as one can get. In addition to two dinners, I had a fine chocolate croissant and café con leche breakfast one morning –kindly offered by one newly made friend there.

2. Women on the street: Most restaurants had sun umbrellas out and eating in the evening was rather pleasant as we saw the world go by. Close to Latino's or Merenque, there were indeed women but I was neither solicited nor harassed. I found it pleasant in that if I wished to, I could approach anyone but not the other way around which is what I like personally. Prior to getting there, I was worried that this is a place like the Reeparbahn in Hamburg. Garish neon signs and noise. I was pleasantly surprised to see an almost European style, tree lined, not very wide 'rue' where most of the time you could even walk with your children.

3. Disco: I spent two nights at the 'Classico' and at the bar below. Got to know the two managers – both of whom are Italians and am told the owner as well. I also went for a short stint to the Latino for good meringue music –dragged by two women I was with. The ratio of women to men at the disco was perhaps even 10 to 1. I cannot say what it was like before but I never felt there was any shortage of game if you are a beast of prey! The first night, I walked with two women to the disco and they made my day (or night) – what with the beautiful Bachata music (it sounds as soft and pleasing to me as Reggae is ). The Reggeton music represents the other end – full of energy (Tutta la gasolina. If you know what I am referring to). The two women grinded against me with complete and gay abandon and there were others who showed much interest in doing lo mismo! In general, I will say this, because I tried this on the second night. If you want to go alone and just dance by yourself, very soon you will find women rubbing their butt against you. I know most of it is driven by business interest – nonetheless, it is a rather pleasant exercise, at least it was for me as the line between the hunter and the hunted gets blurry.

4. Women at large: I cannot say enough good things about them. They are probably the most pleasant of women I have seen. Mostly docile, women have to do the heavy lifting with all the child raising they do (which of course is the reason why they are so plentiful) but I have seen many other place where women wear a scowl. Not here – they came to the hotel at all odd hours and despite the fact they barely knew me, they were always nice and decent. Most women always have a smile and that is indeed quite an achievement given the roughness life has dealt them. They reminded me of creepers who are always looking for trees around them, to latch on to so they can flourish.

5. Gifts: I had brought gifts for them from the US (mostly aeropostale T-shirts) which always were appreciated – especially as it was a surprise.

6. Connections: Thanks to Frannie, I started with a massage the afternoon of my arrival and again the first evening (the airline lost my luggage and so the first night was somewhat stressful without fresh / clean clothes in the heat) , with a smart, beautiful Haitian woman – again thanks to Frannie. By the way, there were plenty of Haitian women (who seem to be a big hit with many – especially the francophone) all around not including the massage parlors.

7. Second day onwards, I started touching base with my online contacts with my new local phone number (BTW, I took my US phone and at a local Orange store, was able to 'rent' a local sim card for a 500 peso deposit plus minutes with additional money. It worked like a charm). On a side note, I did not but some of you may try the smart and English speaking woman at that store – close to Bailey's restaurant. She looks feisty, with a nice set of mammary that are put well on display as indeed by most local women.

8. I liked 4 women at the disco good for my taste but I never brought anyone back to hotel at 4 AM – always walked back alone. I like to sleep by myself, my libido is not too strong at the wee hour of the morning and I do not like to pay a huge sum for the 'night', I got the phone numbers and next day set up time – mostly in the late afternoons as before that, their phones seem to be dead / turned off.

9. Passions etc. I did not go there – actually do not know where it is either but did not see any need whatsoever to go fish as someone said here from a 'fishbowl'. The whole place is waiting to be fished and you do not have to be no Tom Cruise, to finagle yours.

10. I also found women that did have qualms about coming to the hotel. Indeed, I struck up conversation with a woman who works at a store. I invited her but she came back on the back seat of a motor bike driven by her brother at the end of her work day. She explained that people will talk, wanted me to go to her house and excused herself. I was perfectly fine with that as of course, I do not want to do anything against a woman's will. The interesting part was that she called back in the evening and asked if I was mad at her (she used the word –"furioso" which I could not quite figure out until a Spanish speaking friend intervened to speak to her to understand what she was trying to say). In the same vein, there was another young woman who I found to be high maintenance – probably justifiably.she came all the way from Puerto Plata (like a few others I met online) and so I specifically cut the cord and she came back with the same question – if I am mad. Go figure!

11. I think the most interesting aspect of the country is this. Not only you have people who work in this specific trade but you have a good chance of striking gold with the rest as well. This possibility, coupled with the fact that they somehow prefer to hang out with older men (they gave many reasons for this and some were as specific as "no more Dominican men" which true or not, I find somewhat tragic) and that they are extremely friendly (we had situations in which sexual banters were hurled at them and it did not frazzle them at all. They took it, laughed at it as much as the white men did. An interesting exercise in contrast to other women elsewhere who would probably be very offended!) – made Sosua an extremely interesting experience for me.

12. At a personal level, when I used to travel to Asia, I never thought of conversing with the locals – being on business travel, I did not have time to learn Thai or Bahasa to be an insider. The fact that I can actually speak the language with the DR women (everyone- males and females were gracious even if I made terrible errors) makes it for me a very atypical exercise and perhaps sets the place apart from the others.

Vici: As I said, I actually lost (smiley).

Lost money. Paid between 1000-1500 (and at times lower amount).depending on my mood, friendliness and other calculations. Lost much leche. BTW, I tried some medications but it just did not do it for me.

I also lost (and left) a bit of my heart there. It is weird to have a young 24 year old woman leaning against you in bed, completely nude, checking something on her beautiful breast in complete and absolute trust. On another occasion, I could not produce 'leche' for a woman and she was disappointed. I tried to be candid (as stupid as I still am) but she did not take the truth of my being with others earlier well (God, sometimes, it is better to lie to a woman!). For someone like me, no longer in his prime, it made me look back at life gone by wistfully.

"Mis disculpas" for this inordinately long and boring report. It just represents my and mine only viewpoints. Thanks for bearing with me.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1179076] (10, 000 words deleted).

"Mis disculpas" for this inordinately long and boring report. It just represents my and mine only viewpoints. Thanks for bearing with me.[/QUOTE]It should be 'disculpame'.

Glad you enjoyed your visit and sorry I missed you when you left. Later that day the two ladies who took you to the disco showed up knocking on my door and looking for you. I had to inform them that you had fled the country, and they were rather triste so I attempted to console them both with a threesome in your memory. I think they felt a bit better after a good therapy session, but they said something about coming back again today, so maybe they are not fully over you yet. I will do my best to stand in for you.

By the way, a hint to the unwary on the subject of photographs. If a chica says that she wants to take a photo of your penis so that she can use it in the future ¨para masturbarme¨ do not believe a word of this nonsense. It is more likely that your sexual organ will end up as a trophy shared with her friends on Facebook. Tragically, the innocence of these girls has been destroyed by the Internet. So do not allow them to take intimate photos.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179076]"Mis disculpas" for this inordinately long and boring report. It just represents my and mine only viewpoints. Thanks for bearing with me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for stopping by and "giving back" to the board!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1178488]CMP sucks in my opinion, the girls aren't that great and they are extremely pushy. I was in La Passion a few times last week and they had a ton of girls early but on Friday by about 1:00 am they were almost "sold out". The talent quality was very very good, I don't pull from there often but my friends do.[/QUOTE]I second that, some of the best looking girls can be found in la Passion. Yesterday there were still round about 25 girls left when I arrived at 9:30 pm. I was really in trouble choosing a girl because almost all of them were very good looking.

Anybody going to be at La passion tonight.

This week thuesday was very slow, Wednesday better and yesterday there were alot of girls available in all the discos.

I will be in Sosua Aug 16. 24. Which hotels are chica friendly and have the best amenities? Also, which ones are a good deal. What are the going rates for ST, TLN whith the chicas and Belky's Massage? But most of all what is the cost of a meal down there. I like chiken and steak and lemonade. If anyone has any insight please share.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1179172]I will be in Sosua Aug 16. 24. Which hotels are chica friendly and have the best amenities? Also, which ones are a good deal. What are the going rates for ST, TLN whith the chicas and Belky's Massage? But most of all what is the cost of a meal down there. I like chiken and steak and lemonade. If anyone has any insight please share.[/QUOTE]The cost of a meal is your most important question? Let me answer it this way, what does a meal cost where you live?

Bet you say, That depends".

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1179076]Well, actually it is more like. I came, saw and lost!

Acknowledgments first: I have to formally thank Frannie – who was both extremely kind and generous with his time, advice and hand holding (actually even spoon-feeding my initial forays). I even discussed Toynbee and Gibbon with him not to speak of Jane Austen – an amazing coincidence. I also need to thank Charles Pooter (who I unfortunately could not meet during my short 6 night stay) for his critical and helpful comments at the planning phase.

Finally, I would like to thank and I do not know who (as I cannot find the report). Someone on this DR forum laid out a plan as to how to get contacts on the web prior to arrival and the modus operandi thereafter. Now, while I did amass a lot of such contacts – many came to see me from Puerto Plata. Some of which worked wonderfully and some not, I do think it is perfectly okay not to have any game plan whatsoever –which probably is the beauty of the place.

Veni: I landed at Puerto Plata – rode a public taxi (driver +six passengers in a Toyota Corolla) along with Frannie who was kind enough to come to the airport to alleviate the beginner's blues. For 50 peso, I got a ride to Sosua and there on walked to the hotel. It was perfectly okay for me, even on a hot sunny summer day.

Stay: I stayed at a hotel called Romanoff. This is an apartment hotel. People can pay a little more for the apartments as compared to the room which is what I had. I also settled for a non-A / C room and indeed barring the late afternoons, the temperature was almost always pleasant with low humidity and with a fan going, I had no trouble sleeping.

I understand the hotel does not have a website but you should be able to google the contact details.

Chica- friendly: I see this coming out as a regular topic of concern. One afternoon, I was sitting outside chatting with a group of guys (English, Dutch, German, French Canadian, Italian and indeed Russian –the owner) and of all ages as we also watched games walking by. Personally, I enjoyed shooting the breeze with these guys in as many languages as chasing the women. I was speaking with the owner when my appointment (from the Disco contact) arrived. The owner, a 70 year old with an immaculate English accent, looked at me and said: 'well, I see that we will have to postpone our discussion for later', with a wink. Hopefully that tells you what the place is like in terms of the relaxed mood that prevails. It is a quiet place – no partying or bragging rights game. There are many long term residents who live in this quiet, tree covered / adorned apartments which are probably not as sleek as newly renovated properties but it did it for me (I am also a cheapskate!).

I paid $30 for the room per day and it was clean. I do want to warn you that if you fancy extra comfort or a glitzy environment, this is not it. I found it to be a place, which is extremely non-judgmental, clean with all the basic amenities we take for granted in the western world and very much a fraternal environment with respect for all. Located in a quiet street (City Hall is on the same street) with very little noise, I loved the idea of walking to Clissante. Main street – a 10 minutes walk perhaps to the Merengue bar, as I discovered avocado, mango, lime and numerous other fruit trees with fruits hanging, pointed out to me by a 20 year old who was very knowledgeable on these as she hailed from the country.

Vidi: This was my first trip to Sosua (and D. R) and so I did not know what to expect. Nonetheless, here is my impression:

1. The Main street – I liked it because it came across as quaint to me – tree lined, not much noise when I visited, one way and full of European restaurants. We dined at an Austrian place, and an Italian place. Food quality was excellent (I lived in EU for long and am used to the real European food). By the way, there is an Italian restaurant called Bologna. Which is as genuine as one can get. In addition to two dinners, I had a fine chocolate croissant and café con leche breakfast one morning –kindly offered by one newly made friend there.

2. Women on the street: Most restaurants had sun umbrellas out and eating in the evening was rather pleasant as we saw the world go by. Close to Latino's or Merenque, there were indeed women but I was neither solicited nor harassed. I found it pleasant in that if I wished to, I could approach anyone but not the other way around which is what I like personally. Prior to getting there, I was worried that this is a place like the Reeparbahn in Hamburg. Garish neon signs and noise. I was pleasantly surprised to see an almost European style, tree lined, not very wide 'rue' where most of the time you could even walk with your children.

3. Disco: I spent two nights at the 'Classico' and at the bar below. Got to know the two managers – both of whom are Italians and am told the owner as well. I also went for a short stint to the Latino for good meringue music –dragged by two women I was with. The ratio of women to men at the disco was perhaps even 10 to 1. I cannot say what it was like before but I never felt there was any shortage of game if you are a beast of prey! The first night, I walked with two women to the disco and they made my day (or night) – what with the beautiful Bachata music (it sounds as soft and pleasing to me as Reggae is ). The Reggeton music represents the other end – full of energy (Tutta la gasolina. If you know what I am referring to). The two women grinded against me with complete and gay abandon and there were others who showed much interest in doing lo mismo! In general, I will say this, because I tried this on the second night. If you want to go alone and just dance by yourself, very soon you will find women rubbing their butt against you. I know most of it is driven by business interest – nonetheless, it is a rather pleasant exercise, at least it was for me as the line between the hunter and the hunted gets blurry.

4. Women at large: I cannot say enough good things about them. They are probably the most pleasant of women I have seen. Mostly docile, women have to do the heavy lifting with all the child raising they do (which of course is the reason why they are so plentiful) but I have seen many other place where women wear a scowl. Not here – they came to the hotel at all odd hours and despite the fact they barely knew me, they were always nice and decent. Most women always have a smile and that is indeed quite an achievement given the roughness life has dealt them. They reminded me of creepers who are always looking for trees around them, to latch on to so they can flourish.

5. Gifts: I had brought gifts for them from the US (mostly aeropostale T-shirts) which always were appreciated – especially as it was a surprise.

6. Connections: Thanks to Frannie, I started with a massage the afternoon of my arrival and again the first evening (the airline lost my luggage and so the first night was somewhat stressful without fresh / clean clothes in the heat) , with a smart, beautiful Haitian woman – again thanks to Frannie. By the way, there were plenty of Haitian women (who seem to be a big hit with many – especially the francophone) all around not including the massage parlors.

7. Second day onwards, I started touching base with my online contacts with my new local phone number (BTW, I took my US phone and at a local Orange store, was able to 'rent' a local sim card for a 500 peso deposit plus minutes with additional money. It worked like a charm). On a side note, I did not but some of you may try the smart and English speaking woman at that store – close to Bailey's restaurant. She looks feisty, with a nice set of mammary that are put well on display as indeed by most local women.

8. I liked 4 women at the disco good for my taste but I never brought anyone back to hotel at 4 AM – always walked back alone. I like to sleep by myself, my libido is not too strong at the wee hour of the morning and I do not like to pay a huge sum for the 'night', I got the phone numbers and next day set up time – mostly in the late afternoons as before that, their phones seem to be dead / turned off.

9. Passions etc. I did not go there – actually do not know where it is either but did not see any need whatsoever to go fish as someone said here from a 'fishbowl'. The whole place is waiting to be fished and you do not have to be no Tom Cruise, to finagle yours.

10. I also found women that did have qualms about coming to the hotel. Indeed, I struck up conversation with a woman who works at a store. I invited her but she came back on the back seat of a motor bike driven by her brother at the end of her work day. She explained that people will talk, wanted me to go to her house and excused herself. I was perfectly fine with that as of course, I do not want to do anything against a woman's will. The interesting part was that she called back in the evening and asked if I was mad at her (she used the word –"furioso" which I could not quite figure out until a Spanish speaking friend intervened to speak to her to understand what she was trying to say). In the same vein, there was another young woman who I found to be high maintenance – probably justifiably. She came all the way from Puerto Plata (like a few others I met online) and so I specifically cut the cord and she came back with the same question – if I am mad. Go figure!

11. I think the most interesting aspect of the country is this. Not only you have people who work in this specific trade but you have a good chance of striking gold with the rest as well. This possibility, coupled with the fact that they somehow prefer to hang out with older men (they gave many reasons for this and some were as specific as "no more Dominican men" which true or not, I find somewhat tragic) and that they are extremely friendly (we had situations in which sexual banters were hurled at them and it did not frazzle them at all. They took it, laughed at it as much as the white men did. An interesting exercise in contrast to other women elsewhere who would probably be very offended!) – made Sosua an extremely interesting experience for me.

12. At a personal level, when I used to travel to Asia, I never thought of conversing with the locals – being on business travel, I did not have time to learn Thai or Bahasa to be an insider. The fact that I can actually speak the language with the DR women (everyone- males and females were gracious even if I made terrible errors) makes it for me a very atypical exercise and perhaps sets the place apart from the others.

Vici: As I said, I actually lost (smiley).

Lost money. Paid between 1000-1500 (and at times lower amount). Depending on my mood, friendliness and other calculations. Lost much leche. BTW, I tried some medications but it just did not do it for me.

I also lost (and left) a bit of my heart there. It is weird to have a young 24 year old woman leaning against you in bed, completely nude, checking something on her beautiful breast in complete and absolute trust. On another occasion, I could not produce 'leche' for a woman and she was disappointed. I tried to be candid (as stupid as I still am) but she did not take the truth of my being with others earlier well (God, sometimes, it is better to lie to a woman!). For someone like me, no longer in his prime, it made me look back at life gone by wistfully.

"Mis disculpas" for this inordinately long and boring report. It just represents my and mine only viewpoints. Thanks for bearing with me.[/QUOTE]Very nice report, thanks for posting.

I visited hotel romanoff years ago, two pros were sharing an apartment there, seemed like a nice place (Azul blonde wig sometimes, half colombian-half dominican chica, very pleasant and her roommate was a brunette). Years ago there was a bar / restaurant called Capirinha, across the street from the hotel romanoff, that stayed open 24/7, not sure if that place is still there.

Bologna bar and restaurant years ago was a nice quiet place, good to see that it is still open.

One question, you "rented" a Sim card from Orange? I knew a chica who used to work for Orange and I asked her about a year ago, the cost of a Sim card at Orange to Buy and she told me 200 pesos. The cell phone companies make their money on the minutes you purchase, they could give some equipment away for free and still make money. I am not sure how Orange is in Sosua. There is a Claro shop in Sosua, near the antenna, they should Sell sim cards with minutes for under 500 pesos.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1179172]I will be in Sosua Aug 16. 24. Which hotels are chica friendly and have the best amenities? Also, which ones are a good deal. What are the going rates for ST, TLN whith the chicas and Belky's Massage? But most of all what is the cost of a meal down there. I like chiken and steak and lemonade. If anyone has any insight please share.[/QUOTE]There is plenty of insight in this forum, all one (I. E. YOU) has to do is read and look for the answers one needs.

It's pretty much all there, just scroll down and read untill you're satisfied with the info; and then if you still got some specific question, just ask.

First and foremost is to RTFF (read the fuckin' forum) tho.

Bless

[QUOTE=Navdude;1179172]I will be in Sosua Aug 16. 24. Which hotels are chica friendly and have the best amenities? Also, which ones are a good deal. What are the going rates for ST, TLN whith the chicas and Belky's Massage? But most of all what is the cost of a meal down there. I like chiken and steak and lemonade. If anyone has any insight please share.[/QUOTE]Almost all hotels are chica friendly to some extent or other, except for all inclusive resorts which are definitely not. Regarding the best amenities, many people say Terra Linda, but it all depends on what amenities matter to you.

Going rates for short time are generally $1500 to $1000 pesos, but it may depend to some extent on the situation and your negotiating skills. If you are prepared to walk if you don't get your way, then expect to pay at the lower range. The moral is obviously to negotiate on price before you get to the point of no return, meaning the point at which it would be difficult to get another girl.

I have paid 2000 pesos to two girls for a threesome, but this might be overpaying as usually one girl most of the work while the other slacks off unles you really keep both on task. Probably 750 each would still make them both happy.

I usually pay 600 pesos for massage plus happy ending. The basic is 300 pesos for half an hour of massage, plus 300 tip for so-called extras. Girls will ask for as much as they think they can get. Again the trick in negotiating is to say that you don't want the happy ending and that another girl offered it for less anyway, or you can say that you only have x pesos, and she can take it or leave it. So basically just tell them what you will pay and leave it at that.

I don't know why I am telling you these tricks. A lot of the girls are really hurting now as there are not many customers around. Also some of the girls are a bit choosy regarding age and ethnicity of customers, which may further narrow their options. I was talking to one of my favorite massage girls an hour or two ago, who is wonderfully talented, and whom I am quite fond of and she told me she has not had a single customer today and I know she is hurting for money. I arranged to see her on Sunday.

As far as all night, I really would not recommend this unless you already know the girl and have a good rapport, in which case you will already know how much you want to pay her. If you want sex in the morning it may be better to meet a girl at night and arrange to see her in the morning. You could then have another girl for nightcap sex.

Although prices can be bargained and it is stupid to overpay as a display of conspicuous consumption, I would not encourage guys to try to bargain girls into the ground just for the hell of it. They probably need the money more than you do, so pay a reasonable price. On the other hand, if you grossly overpay, they may head straight for the lottery ticket booth with your money. It depends on the girl.

For prices you can also look at the menu for la Passion which you can find online. Usually you would expect to pay a freelancer less money than you would pay to take a girl out of la Passion, so that may be a helpful guideline.

Cost of a meal varies quite a bit. For my lunch today I had a fresh avocado and a mango bought from a Haitian woman for about US$1 fir both, with some bread and butter and ice tea. Overall cost about US$1. 50. Prices go up from there.

To buy a plate of grilled chicken and side order from a Dominican restaurant is pretty cheap, cheaper than Kentucky Fried Chicken, but to eat steak in a nice restaurant like Baileys will be rather more pricey, though I recommend the Churrascuro steak. At a pricier restaurant you will also pay more for the drinks, coffee, desserts, taxes, tips, etc. You can get hamburgers and fries any place, though of variable quality, though even the worst will be better than McD or Burger King.

On the other hand there are plenty of very reasonable priced restaurants where you can get excellent food.

Schnitzel Paradise has excellent Schnitzel and I had a wonderful beefy goulash soup there the other day. Not expensive.

Elefante Rojo is an Italian place that has great pasta dishes, spaghetti, etc. At very reasonable prices.

Bologna Restaurant and Pizzeria is an excellent Italian restaurant. You can get pizza to go. I had an excellent small pizza Napolitano today for 250 pesos. The very large ones are double the price and are world class pizza, not Dominos garbage.

There are several German restaurants, some of which have some excellent sausage or salami and potato dishes.

Anyway, all these places are close together and you can just walk around until you see something you like the look of. Mostly prices are posted outside.

Fruit can often be bought in the street. In the supermarket I recommend the bottles of liquid drinking yoghurt, about $1, various kinds of German bread and pastries, including sumptous chocolate croissants and Danish pastries, various kinds of salami, which they will slice for you.

Local beer such as Presidente or Bohemia is good. Expect to pay 40 pesos for a small cold beer in a convenience store (colmado) , but 100 pesos and up in a bar or restaurant. Drink prices are highest in disco or night club as you might expect.

Lemonade? To be honest, yo do not see a lot of lemons here, and just to cause confusion the word limon means lime not lemon. You can get bottles of Minute Maid lemonade in the stores, but that stuff is crap and expensive. You can probably get lemonade in a more expensive restaurant like Bailey's and you may be able to get a bottle of lemon juice concentrate and sugar in the supermarket, if you want to make it yourself. Personally I brought enough tea bags to make 25 gallons, as that is my favorite tipple. You can buy a gallon pitcher here for a dollar or two.

Overall food is very good and prices are very reasonable if you try to stick to local produce and manufactures. Imported stuff is very expensive, as you would expect.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1179120]I second that, some of the best looking girls can be found in la Passion. Yesterday there were still round about 25 girls left when I arrived at 9:30 pm. I was really in trouble choosing a girl because almost all of them were very good looking.[/QUOTE]No doubt, however the prettiest faces do not always make the best bed partners. Chemistry is everything.

I will not be able to make it to la Passion tonight as I am already totally shagged, as usual.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1179097]It should be 'disculpame'.[/QUOTE]Disculpame, Perdoname, Lo siento (I am sorry).

When the chicas say their sob stories, I'll reply "Que pena" (what a pain). La vida es muy dificil aveces (The life is very difficult sometimes).

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1179185]Very nice report, thanks for posting.

One question, you "rented" a Sim card from Orange? I knew a chica who used to work for Orange and I asked her about a year ago, the cost of a Sim card at Orange to Buy and she told me 200 pesos. The cell phone companies make their money on the minutes you purchase, they could give some equipment away for free and still make money. I am not sure how Orange is in Sosua. There is a Claro shop in Sosua, near the antenna, they should Sell sim cards with minutes for under 500 pesos.[/QUOTE]Orange store in Santiago to buy SIM card is 100 pesos I have the bill right in front of me, no minutes. The Orange store by the Texaco in Sosua I bought a phone with minutes for under 500 pesos. Keep an eye out for the cheap phones street vendors sell for around 200 pesos with minutes, I only ran into them once and passed like a idiot, I should have bought a half dozen.

Good lenthy report Fannie. One thing I would not agree with, is regularly eating from local vendors. I don't skimp when it comes to good food, the last thing I need is to be sick on vacation because I wanted to save 3usd. Mauri Mauri, Baileys etc are worth the 10usd investment, if it digest correctly. The two vendors I eat from are Ollies and the grill that used to be in front of four roses. If you are a newbie and arent sure which street vendors are good, just watch a few minutes to see if they have alot of gringo clientelle. Don't just eat food strangers walk around selling. Just my. 02.

Just as a friendly monger reminder, this is exactly the reason you do not want to be going down to Sosua (or any mongering destination for that matter) and be falling in love with these chicas:

[QUOTE=Frannie;1179097]Glad you enjoyed your visit and sorry I missed you when you left. Later that day the two ladies who took you to the disco showed up knocking on my door and looking for you. I had to inform them that you had fled the country, and they were rather triste so I attempted to console them both with a threesome in your memory. I think they felt a bit better after a good therapy session, but they said something about coming back again today, so maybe they are not fully over you yet. I will do my best to stand in for you.[/QUOTE]A weaker (spirited) person would probably attempt to do bodily harm to themselves upon this discovery, especially if that person had been sending weekly or monthly "retainer fees" (Western Union) to said chica with whom he's discovered love all over again with.

Treat the game like Six Flags: You show up (Sosua) , ride the rides (chicas) , take pictures, and go home (to Sex Prison) happy and plan for the next outing. No need to send Six Flags (chicas in Sosua / the DR) a monthly stipend once you've left the theme park (via Western Union).

If you find yourself thinking otherwise and still believe you may have been bitten by a love bug, let the Temptations remind you that it's probably "Just My Imagination":

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT6kjQhVJ9Y[/url]

SP

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1179221]Orange store in Santiago to buy SIM card is 100 pesos I have the bill right in front of me, no minutes. The Orange store by the Texaco in Sosua I bought a phone with minutes for under 500 pesos. Keep an eye out for the cheap phones street vendors sell for around 200 pesos with minutes, I only ran into them once and passed like a idiot, I should have bought a half dozen.[/QUOTE]Yes, I went to the Orange store in Sosua with Tempoecorto and he didn't have his passport with him, but they said there was some kind of deal for tourists that you paid a deposit but didn't need to show a passport. The multilingual girl in Orange is seriously cute, but must have dozens of long distance novios in love with her.

Anyway, they put the SIM into the phone he provided and he was in business. On the day he left he went back to the Orange store to return the SIM and collect his deposit. Unfortunately I missed him as he was diverted into a preflight massage therapy session, as often happens when you are trying hard to get from A to B in Sosua, but end up with your pants round your ankles.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1179212]Disculpame, Perdoname, Lo siento (I am sorry).

When the chicas say their sob stories, I'll reply "Que pena" (what a pain). La vida es muy dificil aveces (The life is very difficult sometimes).[/QUOTE]I say exactly the same thing. Lo siento mucho. I feel your pain.

I think it might mean sightly different things in different countries. Because I only use it or have it used towards me as Que Pena or Que pena contigo: How embarrassing, what a shame, In that context. Never as "I feel your pain"

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1179211]No doubt, however the prettiest faces do not always make the best bed partners. Chemistry is everything.

I will not be able to make it to la Passion tonight as I am already totally shagged, as usual.[/QUOTE]Frannie, next time you in passions. Let me know if lorena still works there. I would like to plan a trip back. Thankyou

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1179248]I think it might mean sightly different things in different countries. Because I only use it or have it used towards me as Que Pena or Que pena contigo: How embarrassing, what a shame, In that context. Never as "I feel your pain"[/QUOTE]You know the sob story is usually the prelude, before the request for financial help. My mother is sick in the hospital. Que pena. I have no money to pay the university. Que pena.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1179248]I think it might mean sightly different things in different countries. Because I only use it or have it used towards me as Que Pena or Que pena contigo: How embarrassing, what a shame, In that context. Never as "I feel your pain"[/QUOTE]Yes, I know that, but if you translate lo siento literally into English it means 'I feel it', although of course as an idiom it means 'I am sorry'. So lo siento mucho por ti could also translate as I feel very much for you or as I feel your pain.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1179185]Very nice report, thanks for posting.

I visited hotel romanoff years ago, two pros were sharing an apartment there, seemed like a nice place (Azul blonde wig sometimes, half colombian-half dominican chica, very pleasant and her roommate was a brunette). Years ago there was a bar / restaurant called Capirinha, across the street from the hotel romanoff, that stayed open 24/7, not sure if that place is still there.

Bologna bar and restaurant years ago was a nice quiet place, good to see that it is still open.

One question, you "rented" a Sim card from Orange? I knew a chica who used to work for Orange and I asked her about a year ago, the cost of a Sim card at Orange to Buy and she told me 200 pesos. The cell phone companies make their money on the minutes you purchase, they could give some equipment away for free and still make money. I am not sure how Orange is in Sosua. There is a Claro shop in Sosua, near the antenna, they should Sell sim cards with minutes for under 500 pesos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reading my thoughts. I read yours with much pleasure as well.

All I can say for Romanoff is that, it is not a fancy place but it is a very friendly and strongly laissez-faire environment. No one is going to bust someone's family jewels if one is circumspect and maintains low profile. I enjoyed the bonhomie with the residents as much as I liked my time with the women.

Capirinha is very much there. 24/7 and as you mentioned, almost across the hotel but I did not go there as I was told it is DR food. Personally, I do not care for chiecken or beans. My problem!

Bologna is now a big fancy building which too is just across. The owner is an Italian (Edoardo).introduced to me by another Italian. I had two dinners. Enjoying a truly first class meal but relative to the local standard, it is pricey. I paid 1300+ for a fish / meat main course, plus an appetizer, wine and a dessert. Espresso was offered by the boss. People frequenting the place are typically those who can afford or who want to impress. Service was particularly good and one girl and one garcon, understood Italian very well.

As Frannie already explained, I was not spoken about the SIM card purchase option. Renting essentially meant keeping a deposit of 500 pesos which I got back and I used about 700 pesos worth of minutes. The Orange woman was notably efficient, even by our standards, not to speak about her linguistic acumen.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1179227]Just as a friendly monger reminder, this is exactly the reason you do not want to be going down to Sosua (or any mongering destination for that matter) and be falling in love with these chicas:

A weaker (spirited) person would probably attempt to do bodily harm to themselves upon this discovery, especially if that person had been sending weekly or monthly "retainer fees" (Western Union) to said chica with whom he's discovered love all over again with.

Treat the game like Six Flags: You show up (Sosua) , ride the rides (chicas) , take pictures, and go home (to Sex Prison) happy and plan for the next outing. No need to send Six Flags (chicas in Sosua / the DR) a monthly stipend once you've left the theme park (via Western Union).

If you find yourself thinking otherwise and still believe you may have been bitten by a love bug, let the Temptations remind you that it's probably "Just My Imagination":

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT6kjQhVJ9Y[/url]

SP[/QUOTE]This is very sensible counsel except the "taking pictures thing". I have a philosophical issue with taking pictures as I feel it is objectification of a person; Besides, the risks of exposure. Whatever goes around, comes around after all.

But on the big picture, as far as I am concerned, I have left a piece of my heart with too many people across the world. Some knew and some were not even aware of it. Most of them were not pros (so Western Union has no role) and even if some are pros, their heart beats exactly like mine. I just cannot forget the face of this person this time when she gets to discover that I visited a massage parlor earlier. All she could say is, 'why didn't you call me'. Perhaps I am naive but I felt her feelings were genuine and I thought I was unbelievably crass and insensible.

No matter where, I think we all keep doing this. Bump into someone out of the thousands and suddenly magic happens and we wish time will stop moving but of course, it does not and we keep this sadness within us as we traverse life.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179294]This is very sensible counsel except the "taking pictures thing". I have a philosophical issue with taking pictures as I feel it is objectification of a person; Besides, the risks of exposure. Whatever goes around, comes around after all.[/QUOTE]Not all pictures have to be butt-naked pictures, LOL. I have taken pictures of the beach, my hotel room, photos while riding around the island, and of fully-clothed chicas. Don't think there's much harm in that. But I understand where you are coming from.

If I post any naked photos of chicas on this forum I usually leave their faces out of them (especially if they are very recent photos). Most members on here will tell you that posting "full-face" photos of chicas immediately after your trip does not turn out well for them (especially if you told said chica you'd be back in a month or two) because the "network" has their spies (and snitches) everywhere!

I've also never taken photos of chicas (fully clothed or not) without their consent.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1179295]Not all pictures have to be butt-naked pictures, LOL. I have taken pictures of the beach, my hotel room, photos while riding around the island, and of fully-clothed chicas. Don't think there's much harm in that. But I understand where you are coming from.[/QUOTE]Apologies, I was only referring to women's nude photos. The irony is that the face is the most riveting feature (I would argue. Arousing) of a picture. This time in the Classico? Disco I was dancing with two women and there was one woman who was trying to catch my attention. Her glances captivated me. She later told me laughingly that she was slightly tipsy.

To me, other body parts do not quite convey what a single smile or a pair of eyes can and so when I have to obliterate the face, to me it becomes something that have gone down in value so I just plain decided it is not worth the effort. But that is me and thanks for understanding what I am trying to say.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1179295]Not all pictures have to be butt-naked pictures, LOL. I have taken pictures of the beach, my hotel room, photos while riding around the island, and of fully-clothed chicas. Don't think there's much harm in that. But I understand where you are coming from.

If I post any naked photos of chicas on this forum I usually leave their faces out of them (especially if they are very recent photos). Most members on here will tell you that posting "full-face" photos of chicas immediately after your trip does not turn out well for them (especially if you told said chica you'd be back in a month or two) because the "network" has their spies (and snitches) everywhere!

I've also never taken photos of chicas (fully clothed or not) without their consent.[/QUOTE]I would like to see how the new Sosua looks, maybe Frannie can take some pics on Clisante.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179282]Bologna is now a big fancy building which too is just across. The owner is an Italian (Edoardo).introduced to me by another Italian. I had two dinners. Enjoying a truly first class meal but relative to the local standard, it is pricey. I paid 1300+ for a fish / meat main course, plus an appetizer, wine and a dessert. Espresso was offered by the boss. People frequenting the place are typically those who can afford or who want to impress. Service was particularly good and one girl and one garcon, understood Italian very well.[/QUOTE]When I first went to Sosua. 8 years ago, Bologna bar was on Alejo Martinez, it was a small place with an open air bar, usually had a cute bartender. It was near an empty lot. That empty lot was sometimes used for carnival type rides, with big presidente cerveza banners. I can remember going to Bologna Bar after High Caribe Disco.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179301]To me, other body parts do not quite convey what a single smile or a pair of eyes can and so when I have to obliterate the face, to me it becomes something that have gone down in value so I just plain decided it is not worth the effort. But that is me and thanks for understanding what I am trying to say.[/QUOTE]Everyone has their own taste. I would rather see a full body pic with a face (even clothed) of a chica then see pics of faceless naked body parts, but that's me. The flip side is that for some reason guys will show the chicas their pics on this site when they get down to Sosua and if the chica surmises that you took the pic she might be pissed when she sees you on your next trip. For that and other reasons you see faces blurred out or pics of dismembered body parts LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1179294.

But on the big picture, as far as I am concerned, I have left a piece of my heart with too many people across the world. Some knew and some were not even aware of it. Most of them were not pros (so Western Union has no role) and even if some are pros, their heart beats exactly like mine. I just cannot forget the face of this person this time when she gets to discover that I visited a massage parlor earlier. All she could say is, 'why didn't you call me'. Perhaps I am naive but I felt her feelings were genuine and I thought I was unbelievably crass and insensible.

No matter where, I think we all keep doing this. Bump into someone out of the thousands and suddenly magic happens and we wish time will stop moving but of course, it does not and we keep this sadness within us as we traverse life.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your posts.

We have similar views on DR and Sosua. Where else can an older guy go for a week and connect not only with beautiful girls, but also with the locals. Whatever their motivations, to me it's the downright friendliest place on earth.

As for leaving a piece of your heart, there are as many types of chicas as there are types of mongers (us). They have a short window in their ives to make a little money and improve their circumstances. For the most part they do NOT, and can not, with a few obvious sad exceptions, continue in the trade.

The less intelligent ones, like the SW's will go back to their impoverished lives, but a few smart ones, pros and part timers alike are living well, driving SUVs in some cases, and supporting their families rather well, with schools, uniforms, educational and trade courses etc. Some have jobs in banks, government and major stores and restaurants.

The smart ones know how to dress and behave in polite company and get invited to the Home country of their novios where they meet family and pass rather well. They also have perfected the art of making their Novio feel comfortable and secure in the relationship, especially in public places and with friends and family. No flirting, a healthy and normal relationship with other males, in which you are included. She will have the respect of her family and friends, male and female alike.

My point is, if you are lucky enough to connect with one, it can be a beautiful thing indeed, and you don't necesarily have to leave your heart behind.

In fact, to take issue with what my buddy SavePro says, a little Werte Yunior to keep it cooking, is no big investment, compared to the lifetime of money you can waste on unnapreciative and spoiled women from developed countries.

Just like panning for gold, you can occasionally fing a nugget.

I know, I found one.

Apologies to anyone who has left me a PM recently. I fixed my browser and now it shows unread PMs

[QUOTE=Bad Apple2;1179250]Frannie, next time you in passions. Let me know if lorena still works there. I would like to plan a trip back. Thankyou[/QUOTE]Lorena is the 'private stock' of another Monger.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179076]Well, actually it is more like. I came, saw and lost![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179294]No matter where, I think we all keep doing this. Bump into someone out of the thousands and suddenly magic happens and we wish time will stop moving but of course, it does not and we keep this sadness within us as we traverse life.[/QUOTE]I first visited Sosua a year and a half ago.

In preparation for my second trip, I read every single post from back then up until today. At first, it was impossible for me to fathom how, in the same span of time, Sosua got more reports than either Pattaya, Angeles City, Rio or Medellin. Even accounting all the US weekend-mongers, it just didn't make sense.

Then upon reading 275 pages, I found out that 99% of the post were about:

-the death of Sosua.

-Sosua is alive and well.

-black people are ruining it.

-countless lazy brothers asking the same newbie questions over and over again.

So thanks Tempoecorto for sharing your thoughts and experiences about Sosua, and even more so for gracing us with something soulful, instead of the all-too-common dissertation about the value of the peso in relation to the pussy diameter and gyno pics.

Ryo

[QUOTE=Bad Apple2;1179250]Frannie, next time you in passions. Let me know if lorena still works there. I would like to plan a trip back. Thankyou[/QUOTE]As politicians say, I have no current plans to visit la Passion, and in any case with a place like that there is new merchandise arriving every day, so it is best to go in person and see what fresh produce has just come in.

I don't think I would plan a trip around the presence of one chica at la Passion.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1179302]I would like to see how the new Sosua looks, maybe Frannie can take some pics on Clisante.[/QUOTE]Not much to see really. Here are a couple. Sosua is a popular venue for preseason training, and you will see many groups of large men with names and numbers on their shirts trying to be anonymous.

I agree about posting pictures of chicas. I cannot see the point of posting (or even taking) pictures of body parts. That is middle school stuff. And unless you are a professional photographer, it is almost imposssible to capture the smile, the expression, the focus of the eyes that makes Dom Republican chicas so attractive, and even if you do, then you don't want to post them for confidentiality reasons. If anyone wants to know what Dom Rep chicas look like, they can go to the Web site of la Passion to see a good selection, but again these are amateur snapshots and in no way capture the true spirit of the girls.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1179390]I agree about posting pictures of chicas. I cannot see the point of posting (or even taking) pictures of body parts. That is middle school stuff.[/QUOTE]By all means, show us how it's done Frannie!

I guess it's my fault for falsely assuming that when I post "decapitated" pics that guys would just use their imagination. Anytime I've posted photos of chicas with their faces in them I get a ton of PM's asking me for contact info (which I do not keep) , which leaves me to believe that there are a lot of guys that do in fact try to plan their trips around a chica that may or may not be on the block when they arrive.

But you cannot ignore the consensus; everyone seems to agree that photos of chicas with their faces in them are the best. But since I only post photos sin la cara, I just won't bother posting them anymore. If you frequent the DR often though, posting photos con la cara is probably not good practice (unless the photos are so old that the chica in them has probably retired and is collecting pension).

Anyone else that decides to post decapitated pics, let me be the first to tell you that ole SavePros still knows how to use his imagination, LOL. I've been to the DR enough time to know what the face of a Dominicana and Haitiana looks like, and have been living long enough to know what the face of a woman looks like (they all seem to be different for some apparent reason).

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1179417]Anytime I've posted photos of chicas with their faces in them I get a ton of PM's asking me for contact info (which I do not keep) , which leaves me to believe that there are a lot of guys that do in fact try to plan their trips around a chica that may or may not be on the block when they arrive.

But you cannot ignore the consensus; everyone seems to agree that photos of chicas with their faces in them are the best. But since I only post photos sin la cara, I just won't bother posting them anymore.[/QUOTE]Mmm! I think guy who have not been to the DR see a picture of a girl they like, and they hope to meet her, not realising that there are dozens just like her whom they will like just as much. Actually I did the same many years ago and the chica in question became a sort of temporary novia for a couple of days until I ended up throwing her out in the middle of the night. Once guys actually arrive here, they realise that all they have to do is follow the direction their dick is pointing.

People will always post whatever pictures they want, but you have to think about the needs of your viewers. Are they looking for pictures to masturbate over, or are they just wanting to know what the average Dominicana looks like, or do you really have a picture of outstanding aethetic quality that is charming or interesting, or reveals some unusual aspect of Dominican life? As I look through my camera, most of the best pictures seem to involve children or animals or family domestic scenes, so not really suitable for posting here as I would not want to expose innocent animals to the leering gaze of ISG.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1179390]Not much to see really. Here are a couple. Sosua is a popular venue for preseason training, and you will see many groups of large men with names and numbers on their shirts trying to be anonymous.

I agree about posting pictures of chicas. I cannot see the point of posting (or even taking) pictures of body parts. That is middle school stuff. And unless you are a professional photographer, it is almost imposssible to capture the smile, the expression, the focus of the eyes that makes Dom Republican chicas so attractive, and even if you do, then you don't want to post them for confidentiality reasons. If anyone wants to know what Dom Rep chicas look like, they can go to the Web site of la Passion to see a good selection, but again these are amateur snapshots and in no way capture the true spirit of the girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

The Silversmith place is new.

[QUOTE=Bad Apple2;1179250]Frannie, next time you in passions. Let me know if lorena still works there. I would like to plan a trip back. Thankyou[/QUOTE]I was at passions the last couple of nights and lorena does not work there anymore, she moved back to Santo Domingo. But there are plenty of hot willing girls so far I have only made very good experiences at passions.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1179338]Everyone has their own taste. I would rather see a full body pic with a face (even clothed) of a chica then see pics of faceless naked body parts, but that's me. The flip side is that for some reason guys will show the chicas their pics on this site when they get down to Sosua and if the chica surmises that you took the pic she might be pissed when she sees you on your next trip. For that and other reasons you see faces blurred out or pics of dismembered body parts LOL.[/QUOTE]Bro, I have thousands of chica pics from my travels in the hobby. I will not put any of them on any board. Why? Most dudes on these boards cannot be trusted. And I have a hard time trusting anybody who I have not personally met. I'll be down next month. I will be taking a shit load of pics. If I do decide to put up pics, they will be of inanimate objects like buildings and food.

Frannie you said all in your last report

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1179417]Anyone else that decides to post decapitated pics, let me be the first to tell you that ole SavePros still knows how to use his imagination, LOL. I've been to the DR enough time to know what the face of a Dominicana and Haitiana looks like, and have been living long enough to know what the face of a woman looks like (they all seem to be different for some apparent reason).[/QUOTE]Cool, I put these pics in the same category of the pics guys take of their [email]c@ck[/email] Going into a pvssy or a mouth where 90% of the pic is of their [email]c@ck.[/email] Besides faces, I think we all know what a pvssy looks like, or should by now. Bottomline is I encourage all to post whatever they want. We all have different taste and what some don't appreciate others will.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1179338]Everyone has their own taste. I would rather see a full body pic with a face (even clothed) of a chica then see pics of faceless naked body parts, but that's me. The flip side is that for some reason guys will show the chicas their pics on this site when they get down to Sosua and if the chica surmises that you took the pic she might be pissed when she sees you on your next trip. For that and other reasons you see faces blurred out or pics of dismembered body parts LOL.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. Everyone has his / her own taste and I can only speak about mine. I decided long ago that pictures do not quite convey what the photographer is trying to do. A two dimensional icon is no substitute for the three dimensional (you being there) and perhaps even a forth dimension (you being there at a certain point of time). I do not carry a camera any longer (of course, my smart phone by definition is now a still and a video camera). What I see in my mind's eye is nothing I can transfer to an image capturing device.

Strangely, a girl (working in a shop) took my face picture with her blackberry this time. She too wants the ephemeral to be permanent!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1179417]By all means, show us how it's done Frannie!

I guess it's my fault for falsely assuming that when I post "decapitated" pics that guys would just use their imagination. Anytime I've posted photos of chicas with their faces in them I get a ton of PM's asking me for contact info (which I do not keep) , which leaves me to believe that there are a lot of guys that do in fact try to plan their trips around a chica that may or may not be on the block when they arrive.[/QUOTE]I do not think anyone is speaking of faults, let alone "your" fault. If anything, you did the most sensible thing by making the pictures anonymous. As someone else said, we should all do what we individually think is appropriate.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1179432]so not really suitable for posting here as I would not want to expose innocent animals to the leering gaze of ISG.[/QUOTE]I cannot believe that God blessed only the English with a sense of humor. But I have not been able to find any other group with this kind of tongue in cheek stuff. God save the Queen.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1179341]Thanks for your posts.

We have similar views on DR and Sosua. Where else can an older guy go for a week and connect not only with beautiful girls, but also with the locals. Whatever their motivations, to me it's the downright friendliest place on earth.

The smart ones know how to dress and behave in polite company and get invited to the Home country of their novios where they meet family and pass rather well. They also have perfected the art of making their Novio feel comfortable and secure in the relationship, especially in public places and with friends and family. No flirting, a healthy and normal relationship with other males, in which you are included. She will have the respect of her family and friends, male and female alike.

In fact, to take issue with what my buddy SavePro says, a little Werte Yunior to keep it cooking, is no big investment, compared to the lifetime of money you can waste on unnapreciative and spoiled women from developed countries.

Just like panning for gold, you can occasionally fing a nugget.

I know, I found one.[/QUOTE]I am so pleased to hear you found a nugget. I have no doubt you can get lucky. I met a 26 year old who finished 8th grade only and another 21 year old, who works at a law firm as an Assistant and goes to Law School at night and as you rightly pointed out, depending on what I can only describe as "fate", some will make some hay while the sun shines and some will do much better. No matter what, I only wish them well and am grateful to them for having allowed me a little glimpse into them.

I also think the same of any woman I have been with. Not only from the DR. Of course, it was so much more different trying to strike up a conversation in Asia (or with a East European woman in Germany) with my poor grasp of their language vis a vis theirs of English. DR, personally is interesting because, I can speak to them plus it is not that I am speaking to a specific subset, as in Asia or Europe. Here, literally, the "world". Correction, the island, is your oyster.

As a final reflection, I do not want to belittle the women from the Western world either. Yes, their expectations are different, a man of my age would not draw the attention of a 20 year old but no matter where in the world they are from and whether they are 20 or 40, women are the kindest, the most patient and the most flexible while I am such a pain in the neck! No wonder Nature saddled them with the responsibility of re-creating and nurturing life while I as a man can only show my long face and it gets worse as I get older. I thank God every day s / he created women and I would bet all members on this forum think the same! (smiley).

I haven't been to DR since 2009. Has anyone been taking any video of their encounters with girls there, showing their faces? If so, what's the going rate for that kind of thing nowadays? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1179373]I first visited Sosua a year and a half ago.

In preparation for my second trip, I read every single post from back then up until today.

So thanks Tempoecorto for sharing your thoughts and experiences about Sosua, and even more so for gracing us with something soulful, instead of the all-too-common dissertation about the value of the peso in relation to the pussy diameter and gyno pics.

Ryo[/QUOTE]Like you, I too, as I prepared my first trip to DR, read through a lot of posts here and the wealth of information contained herein is amazing. From list of hotels to pricing to now, even Google maps not to talk of personal insights. In addition, I also found there are a lot of kind people on this forum who are willing to help with information and especially their time.

Thanks in particular for your kind words. All I can say is: I think a travelogue should transcend the data and try and capture the spirit of a place.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1179506]As a final reflection, I do not want to belittle the women from the Western world either. Yes, their expectations are different, a man of my age would not draw the attention of a 20 year old but no matter where in the world they are from and whether they are 20 or 40, women are the kindest, the most patient and the most flexible while I am such a pain in the neck! No wonder Nature saddled them with the responsibility of re-creating and nurturing life while I as a man can only show my long face and it gets worse as I get older. I thank God every day s / he created women and I would bet all members on this forum think the same! (smiley).[/QUOTE]Well said. Thanks for sharing.

Women are indeed indispensable They have us going halfway around the world, trying to find them.

But having been married a couple times, I find they can to take you to heaven, or take you to hell.

By the way, at the moment my "nugget" is shining brightly, but the consensus among most of my friends, is that it will only turn out to be "fools gold".

Ah, well!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1179535]Well said. Thanks for sharing.

Women are indeed indispensable They have us going halfway around the world, trying to find them.

But having been married a couple times, I find they can to take you to heaven, or take you to hell.

By the way, at the moment my "nugget" is shining brightly, but the consensus among most of my friends, is that it will only yurn out to be "fools gold".

Ah, well![/QUOTE]I agree that women can take you to hell but we contribute to that. I know I did. But I ascribe this eternal fiasco primarily to raising children. The job of parenting sucks all the energy of the adults. All other emotions completely squeezed out. Despite all our intellectualizing about love and passion, re-creating and sustaining life is the one and only ever-repeating game in town played from primordial times and we play along what Nature have us playing, blissfully ignorant.

I think anyone who gets married more than once is a true romantic. Seriously! So, Kudos. Here is one who is trying to re-create the miasma of state of bliss one is in at the outset.

I can quite understand the skepticism of your friends but what the heck, we only live once and so feel free to make all the mistakes we can. NOW is all we have.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1179368]Lorena is the 'private stock' of another Monger.[/QUOTE]So some lucky guy scooped lorena is that what your saying sidney. Lucky fellow. Well I guess I'm going to have to find another chica LOL

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1179513]I haven't been to DR since 2009. Has anyone been taking any video of their encounters with girls there, showing their faces? If so, what's the going rate for that kind of thing nowadays? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Why are you paying extra?

According to recent information, the tourist police (Politur) adjusted it's policy the last few days. The Politur seems to be more cautious and quiet than before. What happened?

Last week a committee of the Ministry of Tourism of Santo Domingo and the Ministry of Health (Salud Público) visited Sosúa. They do this almost every year, they check the local restaurants and bars if they live up to the hygiene rules. They also check the tax payments and permits.

Politur cautious lately?

During the inspection tour, the committee members were overwhelmed with complaints from the owners. The complaints were primarily about the aggressive arrests by the Politur of street vendors and women walking alone and the negative impression this makes on the tourists. These arrests were frequently filmed by tourists and put on YouTube and this led to a wave of negative news about Sosúa. Moreover, the committee itself found out that many bars and restaurants were closed and in other places there was little clientele. They decided to suspend their tour of inspection and to go in consultation with the Mayor Ilana Neumann and the commander of the Politur. What they exactly discussed in the consultation and what the findings are is not yet disclosed. It seemed that the mayor was very upset by the decline of the restaurants and bars in business. Now we see that the last few days the Politur is more cautious and quiet.

It looks like and we hope that Sosúa will regain its valued conviviality

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1179746]According to recent information, the tourist police (Politur) adjusted it's policy the last few days. The Politur seems to be more cautious and quiet than before. What happened?

Last week a committee of the Ministry of Tourism of Santo Domingo and the Ministry of Health (Salud Público) visited Sosúa. They do this almost every year, they check the local restaurants and bars if they live up to the hygiene rules. They also check the tax payments and permits.

Politur cautious lately?

During the inspection tour, the committee members were overwhelmed with complaints from the owners. The complaints were primarily about the aggressive arrests by the Politur of street vendors and women walking alone and the negative impression this makes on the tourists. These arrests were frequently filmed by tourists and put on YouTube and this led to a wave of negative news about Sosúa. Moreover, the committee itself found out that many bars and restaurants were closed and in other places there was little clientele. They decided to suspend their tour of inspection and to go in consultation with the Mayor Ilana Neumann and the commander of the Politur. What they exactly discussed in the consultation and what the findings are is not yet disclosed. It seemed that the mayor was very upset by the decline of the restaurants and bars in business. Now we see that the last few days the Politur is more cautious and quiet.

It looks like and we hope that Sosúa will regain its valued conviviality[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=2659&article=1[/url]

[i]"They do this almost every year, they check the local restaurants and bars if they live up to the hygiene rules. [b]They also check the tax payments and permits."[/b][/I]

That was Tony Soprano taking a personal tour to see why his "tastes" have been showing up to la capital infrequently or stopped showing up altogether, lol.

Is there any daytime action other than Passions. I see from thier website it is 2500 pesos for full service. I am hoping to pay between 1000 and 1500 pesos.

Jayhighfive

[QUOTE=Sidney;1179368]Lorena is the 'private stock' of another Monger.[/QUOTE]That is too bad sidney. One lucky guy to have lorena. Guess I will have to find a new chica!

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1179816]Is there any daytime action other than Passions. I see from thier website it is 2500 pesos for full service. I am hoping to pay between 1000 and 1500 pesos.

Jayhighfive[/QUOTE]Sure there is. Almost any chica at a massage parlor will offer a BJ or FS. You can pick up chicas on the beach. You can pick up most chicas you walk past on the street. And you can get the phone number of any chica you pick up at night and have her come over during the daytime.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1179816]Is there any daytime action other than Passions. I see from thier website it is 2500 pesos for full service. I am hoping to pay between 1000 and 1500 pesos.

Jayhighfive[/QUOTE]Yes, there is lots, and you can pay whatever you want, because you offer and they either accept or decline. You can find girls at massage parlors and do it on site, or get a masaje domicilario, which means she comes to your hotel to give you a massage (sex). Alternatively you can meet ladies at night and arrange to see them next day at given time or place. You will also see the same girls who are out at night walking around in the daytime (not before midday) and if you stop and chat with them, they will often be up for a little after lunch or predinner hanky panky.

Also any girl who returns your smile in the street may be worth furthering a discussion. You can't just ask How Much for ficky ficky to a civilian girl, but you can tell her that a girl as pretty as her must have many novios and let her come back at you. If she says she has no novio, but is looking, that may be considered a come on.

I just had a girl at 10 am this morning. I had been flirting with her for over a week as she had never had sex with a foreigner before, only with Dominican boyfriends, and has no children but she really needed money. Having established this fact, I let the whole matter cool for several days, and didn't mention the matter again until today although I saw her a few times at her workplace, to allow some tension to build.

Today, the deed was done and OMG that was one of most perfect ever. She was a little nervous, but as wet as the Rio Grande in the rainy season, and although I have enjoyed many Dominicanas, this was one of the sweetest and hottest sessions ever, like having sex for the first time.

I am not a great fan of condoms, as if they are tight they tend to squeeze the blood out of you, and you can't feel a thing, but today with this girl there was so much lubrication it felt like bareback and it was all pure pleasure and not the tedious chore that sex can easily become.

Of course my real motive was to take one for the team, because if she found her first encounter with a gringo pleasurable, then surely it would only be a matter of time before others would have the chance to follow suit.

However, she swore me to secrecy, so I cannot give a name, phone number, or GPS location, but relay this information purely for entertainment purposes and so that anyone planning to visit Sosua may contemplate what may be possible even if you are elderly, ugly, and overweight, and just got out of bed.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;1179823]Sure there is. Almost any chica at a massage parlor will offer a BJ or FS. You can pick up chicas on the beach. You can pick up most chicas you walk past on the street. And you can get the phone number of any chica you pick up at night and have her come over during the daytime.[/QUOTE]Yes, and communication is the key. You can communicate with chicas enough to have sex even if you don't speak any Spanish, but the more you know the easier it gets, so at least learn some basics before a first visit. The first time I came to the DR I started teaching myself Spanish only six weeks earlier with some CDs, and by the end of my first three day visit, I found I was already ordering breakfast without reference to the menu, or conducting prescreening interviews for chicas without a dictionary.

I have to admire Cortoetempo who was here recently, who had never spoken a word of Spanish before, but had studied a book called, I think, Spanish for SAT, and hit the ground speaking rapid but atrocious Spanish, calling girls on his phone, talking to everyone, and generally getting his point across very effectively.

A useful tool these days, if you have a computer with wi fi, is Google translator, as the beginner in Spanish may be able to type in conversational remarks that will be translated into Spanish on the screen, but there is no substitute for a smile, a hug, a kiss, and a gentle touch when it comes to getting across your general point.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1179828]Yes, there is lots, and you can pay whatever you want, because you offer and they either accept or decline. You can find girls at massage parlors and do it on site, or get a masaje domicilario, which means she comes to your hotel to give you a massage (sex). Alternatively you can meet ladies at night and arrange to see them next day at given time or place. You will also see the same girls who are out at night walking around in the daytime (not before midday) and if you stop and chat with them, they will often be up for a little after lunch or predinner hanky panky.

Also any girl who returns your smile in the street may be worth furthering a discussion. You can't just ask How Much for ficky ficky to a civilian girl, but you can tell her that a girl as pretty as her must have many novios and let her come back at you. If she says she has no novio, but is looking, that may be considered a come on.

I just had a girl at 10 am this morning. I had been flirting with her for over a week as she had never had sex with a foreigner before, only with Dominican boyfriends, and has no children but she really needed money. Having established this fact, I let the whole matter cool for several days, and didn't mention the matter again until today although I saw her a few times at her workplace, to allow some tension to build.

Today, the deed was done and OMG that was one of most perfect ever. She was a little nervous, but as wet as the Rio Grande in the rainy season, and although I have enjoyed many Dominicanas, this was one of the sweetest and hottest sessions ever, like having sex for the first time.

I am not a great fan of condoms, as if they are tight they tend to squeeze the blood out of you, and you can't feel a thing, but today with this girl there was so much lubrication it felt like bareback and it was all pure pleasure and not the tedious chore that sex can easily become.

Of course my real motive was to take one for the team, because if she found her first encounter with a gringo pleasurable, then surely it would only be a matter of time before others would have the chance to follow suit.

However, she swore me to secrecy, so I cannot give a name, phone number, or GPS location, but relay this information purely for entertainment purposes and so that anyone planning to visit Sosua may contemplate what may be possible even if you are elderly, ugly, and overweight, and just got out of bed.[/QUOTE]Gee, thanks for taking one for all of us. You are truly fortunate to find the one non working girl in Sosua, who has never fucked a guy from another country. You covered all angles this trip, from the 600peso Haitian massage girls to the undiscovered jem. Thats a hard act to follow.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1179828]Yes, there is lots, and you can pay whatever you want, because you offer and they either accept or decline. You can find girls at massage parlors and do it on site, or get a masaje domicilario, which means she comes to your hotel to give you a massage (sex). Alternatively you can meet ladies at night and arrange to see them next day at given time or place. You will also see the same girls who are out at night walking around in the daytime (not before midday) and if you stop and chat with them, they will often be up for a little after lunch or predinner hanky panky.

Also any girl who returns your smile in the street may be worth furthering a discussion. You can't just ask How Much for ficky ficky to a civilian girl, but you can tell her that a girl as pretty as her must have many novios and let her come back at you. If she says she has no novio, but is looking, that may be considered a come on.

I just had a girl at 10 am this morning. I had been flirting with her for over a week as she had never had sex with a foreigner before, only with Dominican boyfriends, and has no children but she really needed money. Having established this fact, I let the whole matter cool for several days, and didn't mention the matter again until today although I saw her a few times at her workplace, to allow some tension to build.

Today, the deed was done and OMG that was one of most perfect ever. She was a little nervous, but as wet as the Rio Grande in the rainy season, and although I have enjoyed many Dominicanas, this was one of the sweetest and hottest sessions ever, like having sex for the first time.

I am not a great fan of condoms, as if they are tight they tend to squeeze the blood out of you, and you can't feel a thing, but today with this girl there was so much lubrication it felt like bareback and it was all pure pleasure and not the tedious chore that sex can easily become.

Of course my real motive was to take one for the team, because if she found her first encounter with a gringo pleasurable, then surely it would only be a matter of time before others would have the chance to follow suit.

However, she swore me to secrecy, so I cannot give a name, phone number, or GPS location, but relay this information purely for entertainment purposes and so that anyone planning to visit Sosua may contemplate what may be possible even if you are elderly, ugly, and overweight, and just got out of bed.[/QUOTE]Good sound advice all the way around. I always say if your breathing and have the money your in.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1179840]You are truly fortunate to find the one non working girl in Sosua, who has never fucked a guy from another country.[/QUOTE]I was reading that and reflecting on three chicas I banged on my last trip that told me the same thing.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1179437]Thanks.

The Silversmith place is new.[/QUOTE]It has been there for many years. Right across from La Roca

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1180033]I was reading that and reflecting on three chicas I banged on my last trip that told me the same thing.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well obviously you can never be sure if it is the truth, but on balance from what I know of this chica it MAY be true. Anyway, it was very good and she was very nervous and excited, so why look a gift horse in the mouth? Ultimately the truth does not really matter, but what counts is that she is excited, and not jaded or blase.

What did you think of your three chicas? Did any of them seem plausible or was it evident that it was BS?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1179840]Gee, thanks for taking one for all of us.[/QUOTE]You are welcome.

[QUOTE=BlackSultan;1179450]Bro, I have thousands of chica pics from my travels in the hobby. I will not put any of them on any board. Why? Most dudes on these boards cannot be trusted. And I have a hard time trusting anybody who I have not personally met. I'll be down next month. I will be taking a shit load of pics. If I do decide to put up pics, they will be of inanimate objects like buildings and food.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, bro. I wish more people realized what you have. I've decided to pretty much do the same thing.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1180040]What did you think of your three chicas? Did any of them seem plausible or was it evident that it was BS?[/QUOTE]They could have been telling me the truth. In general, I don't dwell on this stuff much when I meet a chica in Sosua because I know what Sosua is about, but anything is possible. I thought it was a bit bizarre though for 3 to tell me the same thing. Obviously, this has no correlation, that I know of, with your situation, other than it reminded me of my last trip.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1180057]They could have been telling me the truth. In general, I don't dwell on this stuff much when I meet a chica in Sosua because I know what Sosua is about, but anything is possible. I thought it was a bit bizarre though for 3 to tell me the same thing. Obviously, this has no correlation, that I know of, with your situation, other than it reminded me of my last trip.[/QUOTE]Just interesting. It could be that with the economy offering so little employment that there are more chicas trying their hand at gringo catching, or it could be that with increasing access to the Internet, more chicas are able to make contacts and get away from controling families. Or it could just be BS.

Obviously with hundreds, if not thousands, of new chicas coming on the market every year, it can't be too unusual to snare first timers, especially if you avoid the most ostentatious and aggressive chicas. A lot of girls go out night after night without being taken, especially if they lack marketing skills or good looks.

Of course, as I said before, the real interest is not so much a question of a kind of gringo virginity cult, but the fact that they may be more sexually aroused as a result of stepping into unknown territory.

I really don´t like mongering. I only do it for the sex.

[quote]Why are you paying extra?[/quote]I'm not yet. That's why I'm asking. Never paid for pics, but never tried vid in DR.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1179253]You know the sob story is usually the prelude, before the request for financial help. My mother is sick in the hospital. Que pena. I have no money to pay the university. Que pena.[/QUOTE]I thought the girl I met who works at Claro in the grocery store in SD was attempting to take me for a ride last week. I must admit I was totally caught off guard. Turned out to be a false alarm though!

Jaquelin said: hola t puedo pedir un favor.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: depende. Que es?

Jaquelin said: ya page mi casa necesito pagar la universidad m lo presta.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: de donde?

Jaquelin said: hay disculpa st msj era para mi hermana de verdad perdona y tu cm estas

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1180234]I thought the girl I met who works at Claro in the grocery store in SD was attempting to take me for a ride last week. I must admit I was totally caught off guard. Turned out to be a false alarm though!

Jaquelin said: hola t puedo pedir un favor.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: depende. Que es?

Jaquelin said: ya page mi casa necesito pagar la universidad m lo presta.

Mrenternational x_x_x said: de donde?

Jaquelin said: hay disculpa st msj era para mi hermana de verdad perdona why tu cm estas[/QUOTE]I don't know buddy, sounds like she might have gotten a weary and affraid of losing you by the way you wrote "de donde" and then played it off like she thought she was writing it to her sister. These bitches are much more slick then we give them credit. I mean how many lines of chat via, BBMessenger, MSN, Texting, do you have to write before you figure out your talking to the wrong person? That happens to everybody but usually just one line of text.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1180243]I don't know buddy, sounds like she might have gotten a weary and affraid of losing you by the way you wrote "de donde" and then played it off like she thought she was writing it to her sister. These bitches are much more slick then we give them credit. I mean how many lines of chat via, BBMessenger, MSN, Texting, do you have to write before you figure out your talking to the wrong person? That happens to everybody but usually just one line of text.[/QUOTE]I have been out with a few who are busy texting on their Blackberry phones, while they are with me. To me it is rude, but if the chica provides good service, I don't care. I can only imagine what some of them are texting and to whom, when they are sitting across the table from me, at some bar."Estoy sola amor, en mi cama, piensar en ti, te extrano, cuando puedes enviar el dinero?" (I am alone, in my bed, thinking about you, I miss you, when can you send the money?) LOL.

Many DR chicas cannot send a text message with their photo to another cell phone, supposedly they have to have multimedia for their cell phone. One chica told me that she can send photos in Blackberry messenger. I usually save a chica's name in my cell with the first few letters of her name, then maybe sd for santo domingo, or lv for la vega, or st for santiago. I have numerous Marilyns, Karens, Lilly, and others with the same name. I get them mixed up, some I can't remember their face. Would be helpful if I could receive a photo of their face in my cell, from their cell. I don't like to put full names, because some chicas are like spies and will go through my cell, if they get the chance, a name saved liked marsd, I can always say is Mario a male friend from the states, blah blah blah.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1180250]I have been out with a few who are busy texting on their Blackberry phones, while they are with me. To me it is rude, but if the chica provides good service, I don't care. I can only imagine what some of them are texting and to whom, when they are sitting across the table from me, at some bar."Estoy sola amor, en mi cama, piensar en ti, te extrano, cuando puedes enviar el dinero?" (I am alone, in my bed, thinking about you, I miss you, when can you send the money?) LOL.[/QUOTE]

We know this so well already bro, but thats one of the perks of being an experienced monger, we just take it as it comes and laugh are asses off at the poor lost soul on the other end of the line. Ready to send his next online " WU payment". It will be more difficult for the bitches to Hoe around though as FACETIME becomes more prevalent. Its a real conondrum for the Hardcore puta with a few novios. Im sure they will opt not to have a phone with FACETIME.

I have so many hoe's and lady friends in my phones with the same first names. Its impossible to have them in my phone with just one name, location and remember who they are. So photo cataloging is a must for me. My second cell is for the novia and her family and friends of course. Got to have that second cell if you want to have a serious girl as well because it just a matter of time before you're in a place where you CAN'T pick up and we all know how awkward that gets. P. S. MAKE SURE YOU TURN OFF your puta phone and hide it like you're money. Because if she finds it or hears it? Your goose is fully cooked!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1180250]I have been out with a few who are busy texting on their Blackberry phones, while they are with me. To me it is rude, but if the chica provides good service, I don't care. I can only imagine what some of them are texting and to whom[/QUOTE]Was this one of the chicas?

Never flown into POP before. I am supposed to be picked up by a driver from NG.

Do I need to change $ at the airport, or can I wait till after I check in at the hotel and go to the bank?

What time do the banks close?

Anybody ever use this service? Where do you meet the driver? Will there be people standing outside of customs w / signs?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1180599]Never flown into POP before. I am supposed to be picked up by a driver from NG.

Do I need to change $ at the airport, or can I wait till after I check in at the hotel and go to the bank?

What time do the banks close?

Anybody ever use this service? Where do you meet the driver? Will there be people standing outside of customs w / signs?

Thanks![/QUOTE]You can change money at a reasonable rate of exchange at the BanReservas bank that is on the OUTSIDE concourse of the airport, not the ripoff change booth next to the tourist card counter inside the airport. Do this before you get in the taxi.

Another alternative is that you just tell your taxi driver that you need to get change on the way and he will take you by ¨Change Corner¨ in Sosua, just round the corner from the New Garden and you can change currency without getting out of the taxi.

Banks are closed weekends and holidays and open until about 4 30 pm on weekdays, but there are several cambios in Sosua where you can change money at all hours and days. Just walk along the street and men will say Chench, Chench. This means they are offering to change money for you.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1180599]Never flown into POP before. I am supposed to be picked up by a driver from NG.

Do I need to change $ at the airport, or can I wait till after I check in at the hotel and go to the bank?

What time do the banks close?

Anybody ever use this service? Where do you meet the driver? Will there be people standing outside of customs w / signs?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The driver will be waiting for you outside after you exit the airport with your baggage. He will be holding a sign that says NG and will have your name on it. Look for him in the small crowd of other people holding signs with people's name on them.

I would at least show up with the taxi fare in USD. You are also going to need $10 to pay the entry fee after your flight. There used to be a time that they did not have change but that did not seem to be the problem last time I was there. I would still show up with a $10 bill anyway to avoid any problems.

You can ask the driver to stop by Western Union on the way to NG. They have really good exchange rates. You will need your passport to do this.

I have always used the Cambio that is between El Flow and some clothing store and never had any problems there and also received favorable rates. You may want to use this place if you decide to check into the hotel first. Not sure what time the bank closes but it is always a long line inside so I've always just used the ATM.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1180641]The driver will be waiting for you outside after you exit the airport with your baggage. He will be holding a sign that says NG and will have your name on it. Look for him in the small crowd of other people holding signs with people's name on them.

I would at least show up with the taxi fare in USD. You are also going to need $10 to pay the entry fee after your flight. There used to be a time that they did not have change but that did not seem to be the problem last time I was there. I would still show up with a $10 bill anyway to avoid any problems.

You can ask the driver to stop by Western Union on the way to NG. They have really good exchange rates. You will need your passport to do this.

I have always used the Cambio that is between El Flow and some clothing store and never had any problems there and also received favorable rates. You may want to use this place if you decide to check into the hotel first. Not sure what time the bank closes but it is always a long line inside so I've always just used the ATM.[/QUOTE]Savepros,

Be VERY CAREFUL exchanging money with the guy next to El Flow, he is a thief! Between me and one of my friends he has tried to short change us four times in a row! The reason we go back to him is strictly for sport now, I have called this guy out three times myself personally and he still will try to fuck us. Now maybe it is a sport to him too but I know other people that he has tried to screw.

Thanks for the quick and helpful responses to my questions. Since you guys did such a good job, I will ask a few more.

Does the driver usually speak any English? What's an appropriate tip for him?
Suggested denominations of pesos to get?

I know that most will say that this is too pricey, but I would just like to ask to have it as an option. At the Passions web site, they say you can get a girl on site for a "massage" for 1500 and FS for 2500. Is the massage just a massage? How long are these on site sessions? 1 hour?

Also, can you get a Passions girl in your room for ST (other than when she is not working).

I am still looking for a street map of Sosua with hotels, bars, etc. Not really looking for a google map, just a basic street map. I know I've seen one, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks.

All these questions are popping into my head before I leave.

The website for the Hotel Orchidee in Sosua, has a humorous street map, with many places listed and their location on the street map: [url]http://www.hotelorchidee.ch/cms/en/lageplan-mainmenu-31.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1180667]Thanks for the quick and helpful responses to my questions. Since you guys did such a good job, I will ask a few more.

Does the driver usually speak any English? What's an appropriate tip for him?

Suggested denominations of pesos to get?

I know that most will say that this is too pricey, but I would just like to ask to have it as an option. At the Passions web site, they say you can get a girl on site for a "massage" for 1500 and FS for 2500. Is the massage just a massage? How long are these on site sessions? 1 hour?

Also, can you get a Passions girl in your room for ST (other than when she is not working).

I am still looking for a street map of Sosua with hotels, bars, etc. Not really looking for a google map, just a basic street map. I know I've seen one, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks.

All these questions are popping into my head before I leave.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1180593]Was this one of the chicas?[/QUOTE]That is hilarious, thanks.

[quote=ath trainer; 1180667]thanks for the quick and helpful responses to my questions. since you guys did such a good job, i will ask a few more.

does the driver usually speak any english? what's an appropriate tip for him?

suggested denominations of pesos to get?

i know that most will say that this is too pricey, but i would just like to ask to have it as an option. at the passions web site, they say you can get a girl on site for a "massage" for 1500 and fs for 2500. is the massage just a massage? how long are these on site sessions? 1 hour?

also, can you get a passions girl in your room for st (other than when she is not working).

i am still looking for a street map of sosua with hotels, bars, etc. not really looking for a google map, just a basic street map. i know i've seen one, but can't seem to find it.

thanks.

all these questions are popping into my head before i leave.[/quote]do not worry about whether taxi drivers speak english. they make a living picking up foreigners at the airport. they always get paid. negotiate the price before you get in taxi. 500 pesos (kiniento paysose) or 20 dollars (benti dollarays) us. no damn tip.

you can say- necesito cambio (i need change) and they will understand. they are expecting that you will need change. you just arrived at the airport. everyone needs change. they pick up tourists daily. they get it.

you do not need a fucking map of sosua. relax. this is not chicago. exit new garden hotel and walk one time around the block. you will have seen 75% of the town, and if you want to go to la pasion just hop on a motoconcho and say ¨chicas¨and give the dude 30 pesos. it is only a few hundred yards walk up the main street anyway. there is nothing that is not an easy 10 minutes walk from new garden hotel, but most everything is no more than 5 minutes walk.

massage at la passion includes dick work in the price. they call this masaje completo. theoretically half an hour, but once you have had an orgasm it is over, so don't point out that you have 5 minutes left and ask to have your sore ankle rubbed. these girls are not massage therapists.

or you can step out of new garden hotel and walk about 50 yards to the right to belkis beauty salon and ask for claribel or nelli and they will do the job 10 times better for less money.

you can get fs at la passion for 2500 pesos, but you can get it from any girl outside for 1500 pesos. they may ask for 2500 pesos, but just tell them you only have 1500 pesos, and do not pull out a huge wad of notes or tell them that you just arrived.

if they say cuando llegaste? (when did you arrive) you do not tell them you arrived today, because the question is aimed at determining whether you are a sucker loaded with cash. tell them three days. tell them all your cash is gone. if you do not know any spanish use sign language or any other language you know. even if you say me want ficky ficky they will understand you.

bring a pair of cargo shorts with very deep pockets, so your wallet is somewhere down by your knees. that way it cannot fall out and no one can pick your pocket without putting their arm in down to the elbow.

if you pm me when you get here, i can find some nice ladies for you if you wish, but most likely you will be fighting them off for dear life without any help.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1180653]Savepros,

Be VERY CAREFUL exchanging money with the guy next to El Flow, he is a thief! Between me and one of my friends he has tried to short change us four times in a row! The reason we go back to him is strictly for sport now, I have called this guy out three times myself personally and he still will try to fuck us. Now maybe it is a sport to him too but I know other people that he has tried to screw.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that info. I'm going to be mindful of that next time. I've never exchanged large amounts at his spot though. My wingman was the one to point the place out to me so I'll pass the info on to him as well. Just figured it was always a better alternative to the guy that stands across from TL yelling "Change!", lol.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1180667]Does the driver usually speak any English? What's an appropriate tip for him?

Suggested denominations of pesos to get?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Frannie;1180696]Negotiate the price before you get in taxi. 500 pesos (Kiniento paysose) or 20 dollars (Benti dollarays) US. No damn tip.[/QUOTE]You will not be able to negotiate any price different than what NG tells you the taxi price is for their driver. If you requested that NG have a driver pick you up, then you need to ask NG what the price will be for the ride (I think it is between $20-25 USD) and that is what the driver will be expecting you to pay him once he drops you off.

If you want to negotiate a lower fare, then you need to cancel the airport pickup request with NG and then negotiate with the taxis waiting outside the airport when you arrive. I honestly do not think you will do any better than $20. Some will tell you to try, but you are probably going to be standing outside by yourself for a very long time because no one is going to want to pick you up for less than that.

If you want to tip, place a $1 bill in the box of the musicians after you exit your flight for good luck and a good trip!

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1180667]
Suggested denominations of pesos to get?[/QUOTE]

Just depends on how much you plan to spend everyday including meals and chicas. Regardless of which Cambio you go to ALWAYS ask them the rate they are giving you. OANDA is currently showing 37.53 but I am positive you could get 38 per USD. The hotels probably will have the worst rates. Ask other mongers where they change their money. I've always gotten the best rates from the ATM, but there are some ATMs that will only let you take out 2000RD. You want the ones that will let you withdraw 10,000RD daily. Always have enough cash on hand in case the ATM is out of money or is fucked up (out of service). I think the one at Banco Popular (next to Bailey's) allows for 10,000RD withdrawals, but on almost every trip I've been on their machines aren't working. There are a bunch of ATM machines at the intersection of (?) on the way towards La Passions and the sea-greenish-looking hotel who's name I can't remember right now.

[quote=frannie; 1180696]do not worry about whether taxi drivers speak english. they make a living picking up foreigners at the airport. they always get paid. negotiate the price before you get in taxi. 500 pesos (kiniento paysose) or 20 dollars (benti dollarays) us. no damn tip.

you can say- necesito cambio (i need change) and they will understand. they are expecting that you will need change. you just arrived at the airport. everyone needs change. they pick up tourists daily. they get it.

you do not need a fucking map of sosua. relax. this is not chicago. exit new garden hotel and walk one time around the block. you will have seen 75% of the town, and if you want to go to la pasion just hop on a motoconcho and say ¨chicas¨and give the dude 30 pesos. it is only a few hundred yards walk up the main street anyway. there is nothing that is not an easy 10 minutes walk from new garden hotel, but most everything is no more than 5 minutes walk.

massage at la passion includes dick work in the price. they call this masaje completo. theoretically half an hour, but once you have had an orgasm it is over, so don't point out that you have 5 minutes left and ask to have your sore ankle rubbed. these girls are not massage therapists.

or you can step out of new garden hotel and walk about 50 yards to the right to belkis beauty salon and ask for claribel or nelli and they will do the job 10 times better for less money.

you can get fs at la passion for 2500 pesos, but you can get it from any girl outside for 1500 pesos. they may ask for 2500 pesos, but just tell them you only have 1500 pesos, and do not pull out a huge wad of notes or tell them that you just arrived.

if they say cuando llegaste? (when did you arrive) you do not tell them you arrived today, because the question is aimed at determining whether you are a sucker loaded with cash. tell them three days. tell them all your cash is gone. if you do not know any spanish use sign language or any other language you know. even if you say me want ficky ficky they will understand you.

bring a pair of cargo shorts with very deep pockets, so your wallet is somewhere down by your knees. that way it cannot fall out and no one can pick your pocket without putting their arm in down to the elbow.

if you pm me when you get here, i can find some nice ladies for you if you wish, but most likely you will be fighting them off for dear life without any help.[/quote]i have the ride from the airport arranged from ng. it's $20.

i know not to come off as a "newbie", which is why i am asking so many questions.

la pasions:

1500 = hj 2500 = fs (is this 1/2 hour, also?)

i like the look of their girls. seem to be leaner than a lot of dr chicas.

i am aware of the prices and differences between la pasions and the free lancers.

may take you up on the "nice lady" offer. good service is important since i'm only there for a few days, and leche is limited, lol.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1180727]You will not be able to negotiate any price different than what NG tells you the taxi price is for their driver. If you requested that NG have a driver pick you up, then you need to ask NG what the price will be for the ride (I think it is between $20-25 USD) and that is what the driver will be expecting you to pay him once he drops you off.

If you want to negotiate a lower fare, then you need to cancel the airport pickup request with NG and then negotiate with the taxis waiting outside the airport when you arrive. I honestly do not think you will do any better than $20. Some will tell you to try, but you are probably going to be standing outside by yourself for a very long time because no one is going to want to pick you up for less than that.

If you want to tip, place a $1 bill in the box of the musicians after you exit your flight for good luck and a good trip!

Just depends on how much you plan to spend everyday including meals and chicas. Regardless of which Cambio you go to ALWAYS ask them the rate they are giving you. OANDA is currently showing 37. 53 but I am positive you could get 38 per USD. The hotels probably will have the worst rates. Ask other mongers where they change their money. I've always gotten the best rates from the ATM, but there are some ATMs that will only let you take out 2000RD. You want the ones that will let you withdraw 10, 000RD daily. Always have enough cash on hand in case the ATM is out of money or is fucked up (out of service). I think the one at Banco Popular (next to Bailey's) allows for 10, 000RD withdrawals, but on almost every trip I've been on their machines aren't working. There are a bunch of ATM machines at the intersection of (?) on the way towards La Passions and the sea-greenish-looking hotel who's name I can't remember right now.[/QUOTE]Using the ATM might give a better rate, but I will get charged a service charge by my bank that will probably wash out the advantage. A nice back up if I run out of $ to convert.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1180743]I have the ride from the airport arranged from NG. It's $20.

I know not to come off as a "newbie", which is why I am asking so many questions.

La Pasions:

1500 = HJ 2500 = FS (is this 1/2 hour, also?)

I like the look of their girls. Seem to be leaner than a lot of DR chicas.

I am aware of the prices and differences between La Pasions and the free lancers.

May take you up on the "nice lady" offer. Good service is important since I'm only there for a few days, and leche is limited, LOL.[/QUOTE]They will suck you dry!

I have a very lean one for you with great personality and large tetas! The girls at la Pasion are mostly rather young, which is why they tend towards being lean. There is no shortage of lean girls. Lean girls are OK, except when you fuck them you hardly have any body contact except a pubic bone digging into you. Still, each to his own.

Regarding the massage and the FS, you still don't get it. It is not the number of minutes on the clock. When you leche, then your time is up. There is no rush and you can take your time, but once the fat lady sings, then it is over.

Regarding ¨good service¨, another US concept. You can get good service, yes, but you can get so much more. Here it is not just about service, but about relationships. It is a 2-way process, and if you get it right, you can get much more than good service. Ideally you want to completely forget that you are paying for it and just enjoy the experience.

The 2 ATMs at Banco Popular behind Bailey´s are working fine now, but you will get a better rate of exchange for cash. The fee for using the ATM is 112 pesos, plus whatever they make on the exchange rate, plus whatever your bank charges you. My own Credit Union has pretty reasonable charges, but clearly the more you change at one time, the more economical it is. At the Banco Popular ATMs, you can change up to 10,000 pesos at one time, but you can have more than one pop as long as you don´t exceed your daily withdrawal allowance at home.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1180754]They will suck you dry!

I have a very lean one for you with great personality and large tetas! The girls at la Pasion are mostly rather young, which is why they tend towards being lean. There is no shortage of lean girls. Lean girls are OK, except when you fuck them you hardly have any body contact except a pubic bone digging into you. Still, each to his own.

Regarding the massage and the FS, you still don't get it. It is not the number of minutes on the clock. When you leche, then your time is up. There is no rush and you can take your time, but once the fat lady sings, then it is over.

Regarding ¨good service¨, another US concept. You can get good service, yes, but you can get so much more. Here it is not just about service, but about relationships. It is a 2-way process, and if you get it right, you can get much more than good service. Ideally you want to completely forget that you are paying for it and just enjoy the experience.

The 2 ATMs at Banco Popular behind Bailey's are working fine now, but you will get a better rate of exchange for cash. The fee for using the ATM is 112 pesos, plus whatever they make on the exchange rate, plus whatever your bank charges you. My own Credit Union has pretty reasonable charges, but clearly the more you change at one time, the more economical it is. At the Banco Popular ATMs, you can change up to 10, 000 pesos at one time, but you can have more than one pop as long as you don't exceed your daily withdrawal allowance at home.[/QUOTE]So it's per leche, not a time limit along with it. When I go to St. Martin, Curacao, or Tijuana, it's one leche, and you are also on the clock. No leche in 30 minutes (give or take with some) you are done anyway.

Usually I like variety, but on the occasion you find a really good one, I have no problem with repeat visits.

Thanks again!

I just wanted to know how good is Terra Linda or New Garden internet in the rooms. Is it wired or wireless? I will need to use Skype for business conference calls and I want to make sure I can actually complete important calls successfully via the internet. Any experience you can share on this topic would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1180869]I just wanted to know how good is Terra Linda or New Garden internet in the rooms. Is it wired or wireless? I will need to use Skype for business conference calls and I want to make sure I can actually complete important calls successfully via the internet. Any experience you can share on this topic would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]My experience is only with the new wing at NG. Every time I've stayed there I've never had a problem with the internet and it was a relatively strong signal. You will have to ask them for the WEP in order to use it. I've never tried to use SKYPE at NG.

At Terra Linda, the internet sometimes isn't working, but maybe they've improved on this. Anytime the internet has been down they've always had it back up and running within a few hours. [b]WARNING:[/b] Using SKYPE is terrible at TL. I had to go on the balcony and even then it wasn't much better. You will want to request a room that is near the restaurant for the strongest signal (the room I was in was near the restaurant when I tried to use SKYPE). Same thing with calling down to the front desk and asking for the Web Encryption Key.

Both hotels use WiFi.

Bailey's restaurant has WiFi. My wingman would go there to do work when TL's internet is down. Do not know if you have to pay to use it, but it may be a better option when using SKYPE since you are outdoors (sort of).

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1180875]My experience is only with the new wing at NG. Every time I've stayed there I've never had a problem with the internet and it was a relatively strong signal. You will have to ask them for the WEP in order to use it. I've never tried to use SKYPE at NG.

At Terra Linda, the internet sometimes isn't working, but maybe they've improved on this. Anytime the internet has been down they've always had it back up and running within a few hours. [b]WARNING:[/b] Using SKYPE is terrible at TL. I had to go on the balcony and even then it wasn't much better. You will want to request a room that is near the restaurant for the strongest signal (the room I was in was near the restaurant when I tried to use SKYPE). Same thing with calling down to the front desk and asking for the Web Encryption Key.

Both hotels use WiFi.

Bailey's restaurant has WiFi. My wingman would go there to do work when TL's internet is down. Do not know if you have to pay to use it, but it may be a better option when using SKYPE since you are outdoors (sort of).[/QUOTE]A USB wifi adapter can be attached to a laptop, using a long USB active extension cable, to possibly improve wifi connectivity in a particular hotel room.

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1180869]I just wanted to know how good is Terra Linda or New Garden internet in the rooms. Is it wired or wireless? I will need to use Skype for business conference calls and I want to make sure I can actually complete important calls successfully via the internet. Any experience you can share on this topic would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Just walk into New Garden resteraunt with your laptop and surf away. I was on my laptop at New Garden every morning even when I wasn't staying there. Wilfred was even sitting next to me encouraging me to be there granted he is no longer there. My Skype phone worked fine off my netbook at New Garden restaruant.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1180981]Just walk into New Garden resteraunt with your laptop and surf away. I was on my laptop at New Garden every morning even when I wasn't staying there. Wilfred was even sitting next to me encouraging me to be there granted he is no longer there. My Skype phone worked fine off my netbook at New Garden restaruant.[/QUOTE]How long has Wilfred been gone from New Garden?

[QUOTE=BlackSultan;1180986]How long has Wilfred been gone from New Garden?[/QUOTE]All of this year, he and Lorenzo had falling out after his Christmas trip to New York.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1180981]Just walk into New Garden resteraunt with your laptop and surf away. I was on my laptop at New Garden every morning even when I wasn't staying there. Wilfred was even sitting next to me encouraging me to be there granted he is no longer there. My Skype phone worked fine off my netbook at New Garden restaruant.[/QUOTE]I need to do this in a hotel room where it is quiet not a common public area because I am making business calls. That is why I was asking how good is internet signal in rooms when using skype.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1180889]A USB wifi adapter can be attached to a laptop, using a long USB active extension cable, to possibly improve wifi connectivity in a particular hotel room.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to something of this nature? [url]http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-802-11b-Wireless-network/dp/B002WCEWU8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311770435&sr=1-3[/url]

[QUOTE=Lopkx; 1181026]Are you referring to something of this nature?

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-802-11b-Wireless-network/dp/B002WCEWU8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311770435&sr=1-3[/url][/QUOTE]There are various makes and models of USB WIFI adapters. I usually buy from Newegg. Com. Many people on Newegg, write reviews of the electronics they purchased, reading their reviews, you can get idea if a particular product is good.

With a 16 foot USB active extension cable attached to your laptop and attached to the USB wifi adapter, you could position the wifi adapter 16 feet from your laptop, to possibly get a better signal.

A USB active extension cable works better than a normal USB extension cable (usb active extension cable, has some kind of repeater which keeps the signal strong as it travels through the cable). Tripp Lite U026-016 USB2. 0 16-Feet Certified Active Extension Cable, [url]http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-U026-016-Certified-Extension/dp/B0002D6QJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311777927&sr=8-1[/url]

Cantenna is a good wifi antenna, but kind of big, to travel with, [url]http://www.cantenna.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1181057]There are various makes and models of USB WIFI adapters. I usually buy from Newegg. Com. Many people on Newegg, write reviews of the electronics they purchased, reading their reviews, you can get idea if a particular product is good.

With a 16 foot USB active extension cable attached to your laptop and attached to the USB wifi adapter, you could position the wifi adapter 16 feet from your laptop, to possibly get a better signal.

A USB active extension cable works better than a normal USB extension cable (usb active extension cable, has some kind of repeater which keeps the signal strong as it travels through the cable). Tripp Lite U026-016 USB2. 0 16-Feet Certified Active Extension Cable,

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-U026-016-Certified-Extension/dp/B0002D6QJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311777927&sr=8-1[/url]

Cantenna is a good wifi antenna, but kind of big, to travel with,

[url]http://www.cantenna.com/[/url][/QUOTE]There are numerous varieties on Ebay. Prices ranging from $15 to over $100. Check it out.

I just ordered one. Don't think it will arrive in time for my trip. Will use it at home also.

Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.

Please read back on this guy's (FoxesHunter) prior posts before bothering to answer his stupid question. He has been successfully run out of various ISG country threads, but then pops up again somewhere else.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1181131]Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]And 1, 327, 654 in the DR! Maybe you can find some?

[QUOTE=Sidney;1181149]And 1, 327, 654 in the DR! Maybe you can find some?[/QUOTE]How many of Baskin & Robbins flavors are really good?

[QUOTE=Sidney;1181149]Maybe you can find some?[/QUOTE]I am sorry Sidney. I have to dispute your total. It was 314 but Adriana was squashed by a Metro Bus last week and had to be downgraded to a 4 so there are only 313 beautiful girls in Sosúa now.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1181131]Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]35 during the week but goes up to 42 on Fridays and saturdays. It has been known to drop to 21. 5 on Sundays.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1181131]Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]Only four and they are all on full time retainer by yours truly Manizales911!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1181131]Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]Well I start with 100 putas. 612 are beautiful 71. 76 are.

On crack. 69 are hot. 3 & a half are gorgeous! Duh!

What was the question again? My math is a little suspect.

How about the great wimpy? Offer the 100 putas, to.

Pay them on Tuesday for some ummmmmm today!

Makes no sense like this dumb ass.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1181112]There are numerous varieties on Ebay. Prices ranging from $15 to over $100. Check it out.

I just ordered one. Don't think it will arrive in time for my trip. Will use it at home also.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback, will book at NG.

Just left Classicos and the ratio was 10 to 1. Went back to the hotel and was ambushed by two chicas who rubbed my ass and dick all the way to the hotel. Wasnt in the mood for some bullshit so passed. Nice little breeze flowing through Sosua right now. Also less police and girls seem happier. Is it the old Sosua? No, but better than my March trip. Look for more info in the Gogo forum.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1181254]Just left Classicos and the ratio was 10 to 1. Went back to the hotel and was ambushed by two chicas who rubbed my ass and dick all the way to the hotel. Wasnt in the mood for some bullshit so passed. Nice little breeze flowing through Sosua right now. Also less police and girls seem happier. Is it the old Sosua? No, but better than my March trip. Look for more info in the Gogo forum.[/QUOTE]Mr G, Is it true LOUS SHARK BAR CLOSED? Happened to him or his spot? He's some character but the only place I could get a REAL USA Hebrew National Hot Dog, Ravioli and meat sauce with garlic bread (yes you paid for it though) and watch sports with some expats.

I am in the process of planning a trip to Sousa and I came across this website. This is my first post but I have read every post on this thread and many others. Great stuff here! I am planning this trip as a gift to a very good buddy who is a bit down in the dumps due to a split with a long time GF. Some history were both upper 40's and retired. So we must be somewhat frugal. We were both in the Armed Services and we have traveled extensively. I just found out that I am a monger. I guess this title I'd due to my unexplainable urge to bang foreign pussy.

I have been to the DR about 15 times over the last 10 years but I have never been to Sosua. All of my ex wives have been to Punta Cana and I have spent some time whoring around Higuey, Bavareo, and Santo Domingo. My friend has never been to the dr and is been out of the mongering game for many years. Believe it or not finding p4p has always been easy for me everywhere I go in the dr. Last month spent four nights in Punta cana and there were about 20 hotties everynight in the resorts disco, club Mangu. I can't really believe that they will change Sosua with this latex crackdown I have been reading about. So I'm not going to let the doomsdayers scare me away.

I am planning on coming down from November 12th thru 19th. Originally was going to stay at the NG but now am thinking about two rooms at the Sousa bay beach club. After reading many posts it sounds like the NG might be a little noisy for us plus I prefer to be on the ocean and the all inclusive price is right. They tell me they have a building at sosua Bay that is guest friendly. I have been emailing Leon at Sosua bay and he has been prompt in his replys. I had e mailed the NG three times and they never replied?

Honestly after reading all the info on this site I really don't have many questions. THANK YOU! My biggest concern is the distance from the Sosua Bay to the action. When I'm in Punta Cana I stay at a AI that isn't chica friendly so I use a Cabana. Sort of like that setup as I don't have to worry so much about getting ripped off! And the hoes can't bother me when I want privacy.

Is it going to be a hassle finding chicas in the daytime that will go back to our resort? Can you hang out at the NG bar if your not a guest? Does the NG charge a salida fee to take a girl with you? Would I be better off getting a room for the week at someplace like the NG for daytime quickies and hand select TLN chicas go go back go the resort at night. I don't mind spending the extra money if it simplifies things. I do want my buddy to have a ball on this trip.

Again thank you to all who contribute here you have really helped me out in planning this trip. If anyone from the forum will be there when we are I'd be happy to buy you a beer.

We are going to stay for one week November 12 thru 19th.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1181267]Mr G, Is it true LOUS SHARK BAR CLOSED? Happened to him or his spot? He's some character but the only place I could get a REAL USA Hebrew National Hot Dog, Ravioli and meat sauce with garlic bread (yes you paid for it though) and watch sports with some expats.[/QUOTE]The four times I walked by Sharks bar last night it was closed. Latinos was empty except me and BBL playing pool with some Dominicans. El flow had an average crowd, and Rumba was doing good. Fred of Cuba libre was open. Four Roses has closed its back night club. BBl and I got a sandwhich from Ollies. Fantasy the sex shop was closed. Classicos is now 200 pesos to get in. Banged a deaf mute girl I pulled from Classicos. I just wanted to see what that was about. Took a little while to get used to her unusual sounds but her energy was good. And this is the key, more girls confidently walking around during the day.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1181254]Just left Classicos and the ratio was 10 to 1. Went back to the hotel and was ambushed by two chicas who rubbed my ass and dick all the way to the hotel. Wasnt in the mood for some bullshit so passed. Nice little breeze flowing through Sosua right now. Also less police and girls seem happier. Is it the old Sosua? No, but better than my March trip. Look for more info in the Gogo forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update! I won't be paroled from sex prison for at least another few months, but overall glad to hear Sosua is firing on all cylinders. See if you can talk Armando into converting Merengue Bar back into an open-air bar again, lol.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1181365]Thanks for the update! I won't be paroled from sex prison for at least another few months, but overall glad to hear Sosua is firing on all cylinders. See if you can talk Armando into converting Merengue Bar back into an open-air bar again, lol.[/QUOTE]It was never closed in, only Sosua Life complied with the rule.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1180715]Thanks for that info. I'm going to be mindful of that next time. I've never exchanged large amounts at his spot though. My wingman was the one to point the place out to me so I'll pass the info on to him as well. Just figured it was always a better alternative to the guy that stands across from TL yelling "Change!", lol.[/QUOTE]We always use Sergio who waves his bundle on the side street outside the Happy Bar.

He's always been there and has his regular customers. A good rate and even better if you can trust your chica to do the business.

[QUOTE=David_33;1181136]Please read back on this guy's (FoxesHunter) prior posts before bothering to answer his stupid question. He has been successfully run out of various ISG country threads, but then pops up again somewhere else.[/QUOTE]This is ironic, I was praising the moderator I think his name was David.

I was being sarcastic, but my point was, if this guy David I think his title,

Was moderator, saw the need to chime in concerning foxhunters post.

(refer to quote above) and how dumb his questions were, and how.

Foxhunter was successfully run out of other forums, How can I be deemed.

Antagonistic when I was simply praising the moderator for chimimg in.

Plus I got 1 point (which I don't understand). I guess if you get to many.

Points your are punished I guess. Well anyway heading to Sosua in Sept,

Will take many pictures of the new Sosua, proving visually, its the best thing.

Going, and Its Alive and Well, just shook up a bit.

Hello all,

I plan to go one one week to sosua soon, I have been there years ago :

- Is the hotel marina beach still open and closed to the action? Still impossible to bring girl in room?

- I went to this place: [url]http://passions-sosua.com[/url], is it still good, before it was! , I remember a girl which name was Erika! Always busy this girl.

It looks like completly different inside, hope the atmosphere is stll good in this club!

Will be there from 17th to 24th, join me.

Thanks guys in advance for answering these 2 points

Naturally everyone here in Sosua is on the edge of their seats over the USA debt debacle, but a few hardy penis management technicians are still managing to put these worries aside and focus on their careers one thousand pesos at a time.

Today I didn't go out as I have a slight cold, but that did not stop 5 chicas. 2 pairs, and one solo operator from beating a path to my door. It was a case of first come first served, so there was some disappointment for late arrivals.

I felt bad in particular for one girl, Selena, who said she owed someone 1000 pesos and was hoping to pick up that sum quickly. She is a really beautiful girl of pinup model quality, is very intelligent, and has a delightful personality. You definitely want to walk into a restaurant with her on your arm and watch male heads swiveling.

I am not in the habit of pimping girls, but if there is any one currently in Sosua who wants to help her with her financial goals, I do have her phone number and would release it on request by private message. Please don't ask if you aren't currently in the country. She speaks Spanish and French.

[QUOTE=GreenThumb;1181320]I am in the process of planning a trip to Sousa and I came across this website. [b]This is my first post but I have read every post on this thread and many others[/b].[/QUOTE]First of all, great start! Reading is an art form that is becoming rare among many first time posters :)

[QUOTE=GreenThumb;1181320]I am planning on coming down from November 12th thru 19th. Originally was going to stay at the NG but now am thinking about two rooms at the Sousa bay beach club. After reading many posts it sounds like the NG might be a little noisy for us plus I prefer to be on the ocean and the all inclusive price is right. They tell me they have a building at sosua Bay that is guest friendly. I have been emailing Leon at Sosua bay and he has been prompt in his replys. I had e mailed the NG three times and they never replied?[/QUOTE]I think the Sosua Bay Beach Club side is the one you want, as it is advertised on their website as "Adults Only." I've never stayed at this hotel, and I sure don't know what the hell is up with an extra charge to rent a safe:

[url]http://www.sosuabayresort.com/sosua-bay-beach-club.html[/url]

Terra Linda is also a very good hotel, very quiet compared to NG, and is 100% chica friendly. It is also a stones-throw away from the main action (the Pedro Clisante) and all the bars and clubs are a 3-5 minute walk from here; much more closer than Sosua Bay. The Single Queen-sized room for $69 per night is all you would need. Tell your wingman to get his own damn room, LOL:

[url]http://www.terralindaresort.com/en/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=GreenThumb; 1181320]My biggest concern is the distance from the Sosua Bay to the action. [b]Is it going to be a hassle finding chicas in the daytime that will go back to our resort? [/b][/QUOTE]It might be better to tell your chica that you will be taking a motoconcho back to Sosua bay (50 pesos). You could just as well walk there, but it gets pretty effing hot in Sosua and the both of you would more than likely melt before you reach your room. My wingman and I once walked over to Sosua Bay to check out their rooms, but we ended up taking motoconchos back to Terra Linda.

If it is night time it would not be uncommon for a chica to ask you for 50 pesos for a motoconcho if you are not escorting her back to the Pedro Clisante upon her leaving.

[QUOTE=GreenThumb;1181320]Can you hang out at the NG bar if your not a guest? Does the NG charge a salida fee to take a girl with you? Would I be better off getting a room for the week at someplace like the NG for daytime quickies and hand select TLN chicas go go back go the resort at night. I don't mind spending the extra money if it simplifies things. I do want my buddy to have a ball on this trip.[/QUOTE]Yes, no, and no. You can pop in and out of NG freely. There is no fee for a chica to leave with you as they do not work for the hotel. Chicas come and go from NG all day on their own will. Their presence there is dependent on how many gringos are lounging around the pool. Between 3-6pm is peak time (since most mongers are arriving from the airport and are checking into the hotel around this time) , but after that they chicas move the party to the Pedro Clisante and begin to congregate around El Flow, Latino's, and Mergengue Bar. Every one there is mostly waiting for the "Big Show", which is when Classico's opens (upstairs above Merengue Bar).

There is no need to get an extra room. I don't know about Sosua Bay, but Terra Linda does not care how many chicas you bring in and out of your room during the day so long as you only bring them one at a time. NG is also about a 3 minute walk from Terra Linda. You can find a chica there and take her back to your room at Terra Linda. If going back to Sosua Bay you would most likely want to take a motochoncho.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1181658]It might be better to tell your chica that you will be taking a motoconcho back to Sosua bay (50 pesos). You could just as well walk there, but it gets pretty effing hot in Sosua and the both of you would more than likely melt before you reach your room. My wingman and I once walked over to Sosua Bay to check out their rooms, but we ended up taking motoconchos back to Terra Linda.

If it is night time it would not be uncommon for a chica to ask you for 50 pesos for a motoconcho if you are not escorting her back to the Pedro Clisante upon her leaving.[/QUOTE]I am no expert on Motoconcho prices, but I have asked Dominican chicas what they pay and most have told me they pay. 20-25 pesos. From Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel, would be a 1-2 minute ride on a motoconcho, or a 5 minute or less walk.

From what I read in the past, the adults only part of Sosua Bay Hotel (chica friendly part) , may not be All Inclusive.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1181678]I am no expert on Motoconcho prices, but I have asked Dominican chicas what they pay and most have told me they pay. 20-25 pesos. From Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel, would be a 1-2 minute ride on a motoconcho, or a 5 minute or less walk.

From what I read in the past, the adults only part of Sosua Bay Hotel (chica friendly part) , may not be All Inclusive.[/QUOTE]They charged more to upgrade to the all inclusive plan from the breakfast only deal. Said they would allow one guest per room and the desk would hold her I'd until she leaves. Sounds like it's just a short motoconcho ride so I'm just going to reserve us each a room at the Sosua Bay.

Thanks for all of the help. A little off topic but does anyone fish in the surf on sosua beach. How a out getting a local fisherman to take us out. Anybody ever tried this? I have hired local fishermen in Punta Cana for a great price and had a blast doing it.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1181678]I am no expert on Motoconcho prices, but I have asked Dominican chicas what they pay and most have told me they pay. 20-25 pesos. From Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel, would be a 1-2 minute ride on a motoconcho, or a 5 minute or less walk.

[/QUOTE]If it takes 3-5 minutes to walk to Classicos from Terra Linda then it is at least an 8+ minute walk from Sosua Bay to Classicos, especially if you include the alley you have to walk out of before you even get to the main drag. It's at least 3 to 4 minutes just to walk from Sosua Bay to Playa Supermarcado, which is across the street before where you even begin your trek up to Classicos. You are probably already 6 to 7 minutes into your walk by the time you cross in front of Tipico Alberto's.

And it's probably safe to say that foreigners are not going to get away with handing a motoconchista 20-25 pesos :)

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1181826]My bad. I was basing this on Merengue Bar being the halfway point. If it takes 3-5 minutes to walk to Merengue from Terra Linda then it is at least an 8+ minute walk from Sosua Bay to Merengue.

And it's probably safe to say that foreigners are not going to get away with handing a motoconchista 20-25 pesos.[/QUOTE]From Merengue Bar to Sosua Bay and Terra Linda are opposite directions!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1181826]My bad. I was basing this on Merengue Bar being the halfway point. If it takes 3-5 minutes to walk to Merengue from Terra Linda then it is at least an 8+ minute walk from Sosua Bay to Merengue.

And it's probably safe to say that foreigners are not going to get away with handing a motoconchista 20-25 pesos.[/QUOTE]Merengue Bar from what I remember is the bar under Classicos. Classicos to Sosua Bay Hotel is about 3 blocks. A motorcycle driving directly from the front of classicos to the entrance of Sosua Bay Hotel maybe could take one minute. To pay the motorcycle driver over $1US Dollar for one minute of work, works out to about a salary of $60US Dollars per hour for a motorcycle driver.

Pay what you want, if you want to pay double or more, of what the locals pay, that is your option.

Honestly, I would rather walk the three blocks from Classicos to the Sosua Bay Hotel, than jump on a 125cc motorcycle with a Dominican guy.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1181829]From Merengue Bar to Sosua Bay and Terra Linda are opposite directions![/QUOTE]Yep, me and my wingman actually walked from Terra Linda to Sosua Bay the long way going past New Garden, Bailey's and Playa Supermarcado, which is why we both decided it would be better to take motoconchos back to TL, lol.

I sometimes go the long way around from Terra Linda to Merengue Bar when I am trying to avoid (my) stalkers hanging out at El Flow.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1181834]Honestly, I would rather walk the three blocks from Classicos to the Sosua Bay Hotel, than jump on a 125cc motorcycle with a Dominican guy.[/QUOTE]It's not that bad. I walk everywhere in Sosua all the time. I'm never in a rush while there and walking is also a good way to pass time, stretch your legs, and mix it up with chicas as you pass one another on the street (a good reason to keep your Sosua cell phone on you to collect phone numbers). In fact, I had never used a moto until early last year. It gets crazy-hot in Sosua and I'm a person that sweats easily, but that's never stopped me from walking around during the day. I just grab a towel from my room and go.

BUT, I like to use the motos when I am being lazy. I've walked all the way to Playa Supermarcado to buy stuff for the room, but sometimes take a moto back to Terra Linda or New Garden, especially if I've bought a lot of stuff (the store next to Rocky's doesn't have a large selection of stuff like Playa Supermarcado does). I've walked to and from the intersection on the way to La Passions where all the ATM machines are, but sometimes I walk from TL to the motoconcho stand in front of El Flow and just pay to have them take me to the ATMs and back to the hotel. A few times I've called a chica over to meet me at my hotel and realized that I need to get some more pesos from the ATM, so I'd take a moto if I thought that by walking I would not make it back to the hotel before she arrived. Gives me enough time to get back and shower because of the one drawback from taking a moto; smelling like gasolina.

If you've ever walked from New Garden to the (hustle) beach in Sosua, you're gonna want to take a moto back to NG or wish you did, lol. If anything it keeps you from getting lock-jaw from (politely) repeating "no gracias" to all the vendors set up in that long alleyway/road that curves around on the way to and from beach entrance.

GreenThumb, I originally reserved a room at the Sosua Bay Club, but was put off by the extra charges. It wasn't the money, it was the attitude. I cancelled my reservation and stayed at Terra Linda as I also had no desire to stay at a loud party place like NG. Terra Linda was perfect. I'm not into having more than one chica at a time so no problems whatsoever.

Yesterday a couple of Haitian girls came by to try to tempt me with their wares, and in discussion I asked them why they didn't get guys from the disco at night instead of bothering me with their nonsense. One of them, Judy, a real sweetie, tells me that there just aren't any men available. I said that it seemed to me that there were plenty, but they said they didn't want to go with Americanos. Since I hold a US passport, I demanded to know the meaning of this outrageous loss of service attack, and she told me that most of them want anal sex, and that she didn't go for that, and that she wanted to fuck with her pussy (which is a good one and fit for purpose) not her ass, which is for caca.

Well, I didn't pay too much attention to this. Chicas tell you what they want you to hear. But today I had a few Dominican ladies up in my apartment for a few hours social interaction and I asked them about this, and one said she didn't know, but two of them actually confirmed this and one said ¨we are scared to go with these Americano guys because often they want anal sex and they can be very aggressive about it, and they don't tell us in the disco that they want anal sex, so we don't want to go to the hotel room with them¨.

I wondered if this is what could be behind reports of requests for what seems to be unreasonably large sums of money-an attempt to put off the pursuer on to another girl.

Naturally I told these girls not to stereotype Americanos because of a few bad apples, but of course, it is their job.

I'm sure it is not ISG guys they are talking about, but guys, when you escape sex prison USA, make sure you don't bring prison behavior with you, and if anal sex is what you want, for goodness sake be upfront about it and negotiate it before you get to the room. You will find some girls who are willing to accomodate your desires, and then you will both be happy and you can bugger away to your heart's desire without unpleasant scenes.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1181941]Yesterday a couple of Haitian girls came by to try to tempt me with their wares, and in discussion I asked them why they didn't get guys from the disco at night instead of bothering me with their nonsense. One of them, Judy, a real sweetie, tells me that there just aren't any men available. I said that it seemed to me that there were plenty, [b]but they said they didn't want to go with Americanos[/b]. Since I hold a US passport, I demanded to know the meaning of this outrageous loss of service attack, and she told me that most of them want anal sex, and that she didn't go for that, and that she wanted to fuck with her pussy (which is a good one and fit for purpose) not her ass, which is for caca.

Well, I didn't pay too much attention to this. Chicas tell you what they want you to hear. But today I had a few Dominican ladies up in my apartment for a few hours social interaction and I asked them about this, and one said she didn't know, but two of them actually confirmed this and one said [b]¨we are scared to go with these Americano guys[/b] because often they want anal sex and they can be very aggressive about it, and they don't tell us in the disco that they want anal sex, so we don't want to go to the hotel room with them¨.

[b]I'm sure it is not ISG guys they are talking about[/b], but guys, when you escape sex prison USA, make sure you don't bring prison behavior with you, and if anal sex is what you want, for goodness sake be upfront about it and negotiate it before you get to the room. You will find some girls who are willing to accomodate your desires, and then you will both be happy and you can bugger away to your heart's desire without unpleasant scenes.[/QUOTE]Hmm, this doesn't seem to mesh with what Mr. Gogo says is currently going on down there:

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1181806]After saying I wasnt going to post, sorry but I have to. Savepros I've been having a ball. Thinking about making my trip a few more days. Maybe because I over did it my first day, but everything is going great. Not trying to interfere with BBLs reporting, but I love Sosua again. Damn! I want to write a report, but its going to have to wait till the fun is over. Just a quick overview. Fucking a deaf mute, head in the bathroom while my girlfriends sister is being distacted by BBl, picking up random chicas on the street. Hell, I haven't even gotten around to fucking my regulars yet. I've got pics, reports, and videos but don't have time to post, aint that a *****. Yall got to wait till this shit slow down.[/QUOTE]Last I know of, Mr. Gogo is very Americano, LOL.

Maybe your chicas are just full of shit amigo (which is probably why they don't want anal) ;)

How can they tell the difference between an ISG and non-ISG guy?

And it's kinda hard to believe that the Domincano isn't asking for the culo (hole); or the German, or the Italiano...

thursday it rained hard from 9pm till about 11pm. classicos had more dudes about 4 (girls) to 1. had a ball anyway. now pan to friday. at osheays in cabarete, friday 6pm and no people at all there. went to passions at 7pm and they had 30 girls but guys werent buying. its now after 8pm and the streets are quiet and not many girls walking around. basically the friday is slow now compared to thursday. its like people are clearing out for the weekend boys.

after reading frannies report i'm very sure there are some ex brazil guys who want anal and rough sex. but i'm here with 4 ex brazil guys who haven't spoken of wanting anal once. but they do like "power sex", but its not forced. haitianas like strong sex, so for them to now be complaining about it seems strange. i've tried before having "nice" sex with haitian girls only to have them say"come on". does anyone really believe that the haitian dudes arent fucking the shit out of these girls? everyone knows that the haitianas mostly like white european guys, so it makes sense to say americanos are rough, want anal sex, and don't want americanos money to make the euro guys feel privileged. maybe they thought frannie was euro. most americanos go to the dr to fuck dominicanas, only a few want haitian girls. as for the domincanas complaining, i really don't think guys are flying down there to catch a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge. maybe passionate sex is out as sosua has changed, and sport fucking is the new thing.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1181946]Hmm, this doesn't seem to mesh with what Mr. Gogo says is currently going on down there:

Last I know of, Mr. Gogo is very Americano, LOL.

Maybe your chicas are just full of shit amigo (which is probably why they don't want anal).

How can they tell the difference between an ISG and non-ISG guy?

And it's kinda hard to believe that the Domincano isn't asking for the culo (hole) ; or the German, or the Italiano.[/QUOTE]No, of course they can't tell the difference. Anyway, I am just reporting what they said for what it is worth, because it may be of interest as this is an English language board. If just one chica had said it, I would not pay much attention, but it was three chicas within 24 hours. I don't know anything about the sexual proclivities of Dominican guys, or Germans, or Italians and the chicas didn't mention them. And as I said, the problem the chicas described was not so much the guys asking for anal, but ambushing the girls and being very aggressive when it was not contracted for. She used the words ¨muy agresivos'.

Obviously this doesn't mean that us guys from the US can't get laid, but I just thought it was an interesting nugget of information.

[QUOTE=David_33;1181937]GreenThumb, I originally reserved a room at the Sosua Bay Club, but was put off by the extra charges. It wasn't the money, it was the attitude. I cancelled my reservation and stayed at Terra Linda as I also had no desire to stay at a loud party place like NG. Terra Linda was perfect. I'm not into having more than one chica at a time so no problems whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, what extra charges are you talking about? Only extra mentioned to me was for the safe. We did get the all inclusive plan so we are going to have to wear the damn bracelets.

[QUOTE=GreenThumb;1181773]Thanks for all of the help. A little off topic but does anyone fish in the surf on sosua beach. How a out getting a local fisherman to take us out. Anybody ever tried this? I have hired local fishermen in Punta Cana for a great price and had a blast doing it.[/QUOTE]I am an avid fisherman and from what I have been told the waters around Sosua are fished out. You will get someone to take you out but they are just looking to take your money. If you go waaay back in this forum there is a post from a guy that got taken by a aguy on the beach selling fishing trips. Personally I wouldn't bother. Fish for pussy, isn't that what you are going there for.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1181975]No, of course they can't tell the difference. Anyway, I am just reporting what they said for what it is worth, because it may be of interest as this is an English language board. If just one chica had said it, I would not pay much attention, but it was three chicas within 24 hours. I don't know anything about the sexual proclivities of Dominican guys, or Germans, or Italians and the chicas didn't mention them. And as I said, the problem the chicas described was not so much the guys asking for anal, but ambushing the girls and being very aggressive when it was not contracted for. She used the words ¨muy agresivos'.

Obviously this doesn't mean that us guys from the US can't get laid, but I just thought it was an interesting nugget of information.[/QUOTE]As I write this a beautiful girl from Santiago is laying next to me in bed watching music videos. We had so much fun last night that I was going to take her on a Puerto Plata date today, but she just fucked up and sadly to say it kind of made me think. She is watching videos now with no idea of what she just said. I asked if she liked Sosua, she said"yes". I then asked what she liked? The beach, the guys, Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1181956]After reading Frannies report I'm very sure there are some ex Brazil guys who want anal and rough sex. But I'm here with 4 ex Brazil guys who haven't spoken of wanting anal once. But they do like "power sex", but its not forced. Haitianas like strong sex, so for them to now be complaining about it seems strange. I've tried before having "nice" sex with Haitian girls only to have them say"Come on". Does anyone really believe that the Haitian dudes arent fucking the shit out of these girls? Everyone knows that the Haitianas mostly like white European guys, so it makes sense to say Americanos are rough, want anal sex, and don't want Americanos money to make the Euro guys feel privileged.[/QUOTE]Maybe so, anyway it might be useful in negotiating with girls to know what their fears and anxieties might be. And you can conduct your own research among the ladies about what they like and don't like.

I really don't know whether the Haitian guys are ¨fucking the shit¨ out of these girls or not. They always deny that they have boyfriends, but of course that doesn't mean it is true. Generally they seem to avoid pregnancy, which perhaps suggests that they don't, but who really knows? All in all I am agnostic on that question, and it may vary from girl to girl anyway.

¨Come on¨could just mean they want to get it over with.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1182153]Maybe so, anyway it might be useful in negotiating with girls to know what their fears and anxieties might be. And you can conduct your own research among the ladies about what they like and don't like.

I really don't know whether the Haitian guys are ¨fucking the shit¨ out of these girls or not. They always deny that they have boyfriends, but of course that doesn't mean it is true. Generally they seem to avoid pregnancy, which perhaps suggests that they don't, but who really knows? All in all I am agnostic on that question, and it may vary from girl to girl anyway.

¨Come on¨could just mean they want to get it over with.[/QUOTE]Could it also be that before Sosua had a lot of repeat costumers, who were interested in learning the language and culture? And therefore could explain their desires. Whereas now there is a new element, who can barely say "deniro" in Spanish let alone "ass". They want to go to the next fuck fest not have girls randomly just stop by to gossip. You and I are becoming extinct in Sosua, Americanos who want to do more than just to fuck.

Lets not give the girls a pass here either. I never let the Santiago girl who I had last night know that her comment confused me. She still thinks we have our Puerto Plata date for 2pm. As I walked her out I asked what she had planned for the night? I'm thinking she would lock into guaranteed money, but no. Her reply was"I'm going back to Lationos'. It seems that some girls are only expecting sex for money that night. One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182165]One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.[/QUOTE]Glad I had a bottle of NTG handy when I read that, as it gave me a nasty attack of chest pain, and I thought I was a goner for a moment. Fortunately a Haitiana picked me off the floor and gave me CPR.

It is the old bad cop good cop routine. Bad cop chica threatens you with ticket for $100 and then good cop chica says beng a tu mommie por solo dos mil pesesitos mi amor por todo, singar, chupa, masaje, lo que tu quieres mi amorcito.

GreenThumb, I don't remember all the details, but as I said it was attitude more than anything else. I got the feeling I was going to be nickle and dimed there and that they preferred a non-monger clientele. But stay there and let us know how things go. I can't remember any forum members really giving the place a thumbs up, but maybe I missed some posts.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1182165]Could it also be that before Sosua had a lot of repeat costumers, who were interested in learning the language and culture? And therefore could explain their desires. Whereas now there is a new element, who can barely say "deniro" in Spanish let alone "ass". They want to go to the next fuck fest not have girls randomly just stop by to gossip. You and I are becoming extinct in Sosua, Americanos who want to do more than just to fuck.

Lets not give the girls a pass here either. I never let the Santiago girl who I had last night know that her comment confused me. She still thinks we have our Puerto Plata date for 2pm. As I walked her out I asked what she had planned for the night? I'm thinking she would lock into guaranteed money, but no. Her reply was"I'm going back to Lationos'. It seems that some girls are only expecting sex for money that night. One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.[/QUOTE]I think there is something in the water down there lately. I just had to tell a four year "regular" of mine to hit the bricks because on my last trip two weeks ago she tried to double her fee. Over the course of that time I probably spent thirty or forty nights with this chica, always paying her 3000 COP for 24 hours of no holds barred service, a true gem. I spent four days with her on this past trip and she tried to tell me she wanted vente mil pesos. I laughed in her face and gave her twelve thousand and erased all her contact info from my phone while she watched. Fuck that shit, I pay my girls well if they treat me right but I'm no sucker. If every guy did what you did to that girl in Latino's she eventually would wake the hell up and realize $100US is ridiculous. The problem is she will get some idiot to pay it.

[QUOTE=David_33;1181937]GreenThumb, I originally reserved a room at the Sosua Bay Club, but was put off by the extra charges. It wasn't the money, it was the attitude. I cancelled my reservation and stayed at Terra Linda as I also had no desire to stay at a loud party place like NG. Terra Linda was perfect. I'm not into having more than one chica at a time so no problems whatsoever.[/QUOTE]I stayed a couple of days at the Casa Cayena hotel which is very good. No problems to bring back girls, they have to leave their cedula at the front desk.

Very decent food, daily fresh towel, good air condition, free parking in front of the hotel and the bar restaurant area has wifi as well.

I highly recommend this hotel

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182120]She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro.[/QUOTE]That's pretty common, IMO. I remember one time in SDQ I was watching TV with a chica and a news story came on about JLO and P Diddy (this was years ago) and the chica went off about how ugly P Diddy is and how could a Latina like JLO go with an such an ugly American negro, but my take away was that she felt that about American Negros in general. Obviously, not all chicas in the DR think this way, but there are many that do.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182165]One girl standing around Latinos told me 100us, I backed away slowly and went with the Santiago girl for 2000p TLN.[/QUOTE]Even though there are available druggies and Haitians in Sosua, I could see a day when cien becomes the norm for "A list" chicas like in other mongering destinations. The current trajectory seems to be trending in that direction. The reasons have been laid out by you and others in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the next five years plays out.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1182292]Even though there are available druggies and Haitians in Sosua, I could see a day when cien becomes the norm for "A list" chicas like in other mongering destinations. The current trajectory seems to be trending in that direction. The reasons have been laid out by you and others in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the next five years plays out.[/QUOTE]3500+ for a puta in Sosua? I can't see it happening anytime soon (besides weekend warriors, some newbies or guys who want to make it "rain") I know me and my boys would never pay that for tln. In the mean time ill be happy with my 1500-2000 tln's. We are planning out usual SuperBowl weekend trip. I tell the ole lady that ill be away on business.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182120]Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have passed the gringo test and are now regarded as an honorary Dominicano.

Of course negro is the Spanish word for black and black in the US means anyone of partial African descent regardless of skin tone. Dominicans struggle to find politically correct terms and adress each other as ¨morena' (brownie) or 'gordo' (fatso) and several other terms descriptive of skin color without a second thought. My Dominican wife (morena) saw a mentally ill African American man who looks like a hobo and wanders around our neighborhood in the US and described him as a ¨Haitiano¨ as that was the best description she could come up with from her limited experience.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1182298]In the mean time ill be happy with my 1500-2000 tln's.[/QUOTE]I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

Caribbean latinos use negro, negra, negrita, etc. As terms of endearment and not necessarily color based.

But, when you hear phrases like "Americanos negro", negro americano, or Puerto Ricans use the term "cocolo" they are referring to african americans. [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocolo[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1182333]Caribbean latinos use negro, negra, negrita, etc. As terms of endearment and not necessarily color based.

But, when you hear phrases like "Americanos negro", negro americano, or Puerto Ricans use the term "cocolo" they are referring to african americans.

[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocolo[/url][/QUOTE]You have just quoted from the world's dumbest dictionary. Definitions include:

"It is not a spanish word for nigger" and "The Spanish word for Nigger". Very helpful!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1182321]My Dominican wife (morena) saw a mentally ill African American man who looks like a hobo and wanders around our neighborhood in the US and described him as a ¨Haitiano¨ as that was the best description she could come up with from her limited experience.[/QUOTE]It's not just the Dominicans. My partner is Haitian. Whenever we are watching American films with (dark) black actors she claims they are all Haitians. I have tried to explain to her that only a relatively small minority of African Americans have any Haitian origins but they all remain "Haitians" to her.

I wonder if Frannie's wife would have still called the guy "haitiano" had he not been mentally ill?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1182292]Even though there are available druggies and Haitians in Sosua, I could see a day when cien becomes the norm for "A list" chicas like in other mongering destinations. The current trajectory seems to be trending in that direction. The reasons have been laid out by you and others in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the next five years plays out.[/QUOTE]We all have different ideas of what are beautiful or attractive or sexy putas. So what makes a puta "A-list"? The answer is the monger telling himself she is "A-list" in his own mind. Having convinced himself she is "A-list" he can now justify to himself paying US$100 like a mug.

I'm with MiamiHeatLuver. I'll carry on considering them all as "B-list" and paying 1500 pesos.

It may be different in Brazil and parts of S. E. Asia because the economies and standards of living of some of those countries are actually improving so the girls have other options, but the Dominican economy is going nowhere within the next decade so if any chica prices herself out of the market for sensible mongers there will be five new ones ready to step into her stillettos. No need to pay pendejo prices.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1182456]Definitions include:

"It is not a spanish word for nigger" and "The Spanish word for Nigger". Very helpful![/QUOTE]It can mean either, depending on the user. I used the first source that came up with an English definition but this particular word is more of a slang. I would say, based on my experience, that it tends to mean the "N word" which is a reference to black Americans by Nuyoricans.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1181956]But I'm here with 4 ex Brazil guys who haven't spoken of wanting anal once. But they do like "power sex", but its not forced. Haitianas like strong sex, so for them to now be complaining about it seems strange.[/QUOTE]Another plausible explanation could be that some guys are overdoing the sex, then taking excess Viagra to compensate, and then finding that when they combine that with the effects of alcohol and condoms, they have difficulty reaching a climax, so sex then becomes a rather futile marathon in search of the final leche, which the girl may find uncomfortable and which may leave her sore or internally bruised. Sex is an activity in which two people have to quickly discover how to pleasure each other and any activity that isn't for that end may become tiresome.

Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1182464]We all have different ideas of what are beautiful or attractive or sexy putas. So what makes a puta "A-list"? The answer is the monger telling himself she is "A-list" in his own mind. Having convinced himself she is "A-list" he can now justify to himself paying US$100 like a mug.[/QUOTE]As I said, I hope Miami is right as well. I guess I would say that an "A-list" is determined by the demand for that particular puta, rather than on something subjective like looks. Sometimes the two are correlated but there could be other variables that could play in, like performance or supply relative to demand, for instance.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1182484]Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.[/QUOTE]I agree with that statement, but I believe that the only person that can teach a man how to please a woman IS a woman, LOL. But when it comes to paying for sex, I have no obligation to make sure that she "gets hers" (orgasm). It would be different if it were a woman I was dating and was trying to (sexually) please enough to want her to invite me back for more. But with a pro I am paying to be serviced; not the other way around.

I understand that some guys go down on pros; I've even had (American) pros call me "selfish" for not wanting to eat her out. And I'm like "bish, if you want me to do that you're going to have to pay ME. Either that or offer up some extras or a discount!". Of course after I tell them that it becomes clear really quickly who's the biggest selfish person in the room, LOL.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1182484]Another plausible explanation could be that some guys are overdoing the sex, then taking excess Viagra to compensate, and then finding that when they combine that with the effects of alcohol and condoms, they have difficulty reaching a climax, so sex then becomes a rather futile marathon in search of the final leche, which the girl may find uncomfortable and which may leave her sore or internally bruised. Sex is an activity in which two people have to quickly discover how to pleasure each other and any activity that isn't for that end may become tiresome.

Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.[/QUOTE]Good rebuttle. But I also relates to the fact that guys arent taking the time to properly interview the girls. Its just looks then sex. They don't establish a positive vibe.

It all goes to what I'm seeing in the "New sosua", no GFE. Costa Rica is Unionized and the girls look down on girls that under cut the price structure. How long before Sosua becomes this? There is still adventure aqui, but the fun appears to me earlier in the week. Monday through Thursday the chicas appear more flexible because there are less dudes.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1182484]Sex is an activity in which two people have to quickly discover how to pleasure each other and any activity that isn't for that end may become tiresome.

Just a thought.[/QUOTE]This is utterly profound and true.

First time I tried the blue pill was in the D. R this last trip (I was concerned about over usage and thought these may compensate) and while I presume it supplied the blood to the needed place, it did nothing to work on the blood flow in the brain which is what triggers I believe, my bio-chemistry and physiology is rather poor, the climax. So we chatted for awhile and the psychological intimacy made it work.

Here is my personal thought: just because a woman is doing it for the money makes her no different.she is just as human as anyone else. For me, if there is chemistry, it works a lot better whether I am paying or not. It does not typically happen with them the first time. It is a lot psychological for them as my understanding is but as they get used and comfortable with a person (just plain old kindness works wonders for me) , it happens more and more often and then yes, they actually look forward to seeing you. Even if it is a paid relationship. A purely mechanical series of pelvic thrusts are as far removed from this as a primordial mating game is. Again, I am speaking of my personal experiences only which may or may not be a shared experience.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1182498]I agree with that statement, but I believe that the only person that can teach a man how to please a woman IS a woman, LOL. But when it comes to paying for sex, I have no obligation to make sure that she "gets hers" (orgasm). It would be different if it were a woman I was dating and was trying to (sexually) please enough to want her to invite me back for more. But with a pro I am paying to be serviced; not the other way around.[/QUOTE]My perspective is a bit different and more similar to that of Tempoecorto. I would consider the payment made to be more of an equalization payment than a service fee.

What I mean is this. Even at the age of 60, I can still get some women to sleep with me voluntarily without exchange of money other than normal dating expenses. However, I may want to sleep with women whom I find more desirable than those who will volunteer to sleep with me to meet their own sexual needs. Therefore there has to be a payment to level out the differential in youth and beauty.

However, once this is understood and we are behind closed doors, then I don't find the dynamics or practice of the sexual relationship to be any different from a non paid sexual relationship. Whether I would perform oral sex on the woman or not would just depend on how I felt about the idea at the time, and not on any theoretical argument about who owes an orgasm to whom. Also I find that if a woman is highly sexually aroused, then that is also very arousing for me, so the two things are not necessary mutually exclusive in my case, though perhaps this may not apply for others.

To me the great thing about the Dominican Republic has always been that it has given me the opportunity to have sex with women who are basically regular decent women who are not drug addicts or alcoholics, but who have sex with tourists for adventure, for fun, for money, for the dream of getting a plane ticket to somewhere else. Sometimes I have probably overindulged, but, hey, we live and learn.

Seen from their perspective, getting together with a girl friend and traveling to Sosua and renting a room for the summer may be the Dominican chicas equivalent of a gap year in Europe between high school and college for their middle class US counterpart, because that is all that is available for them as a way to get away from small towns and rural villages, repressive families, and so on. And sometimes it works. I feel for a nice 24 year old girl, very religious, who told me the other day that her DREAM is to get on a plane and visit another country, because I doubt whether her dream will come true, but it did, sort of, for her friend who is 19 and who spent 6 weeks last fall in Germany with a middle aged guy. Of course she was bored out of her skull and couldn't wait to get home, but at least she had a chance to see something of the world outside chica prison Dominican Republic.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1182498]I agree with that statement, but I believe that the only person that can teach a man how to please a woman IS a woman, LOL.[/QUOTE]So true! They are the only one who can teach / guide a man. I have in fact wondered (and mentioned this to women) that I would for once, like to trade places with a woman, to understand what it is like for them to climax. (Smiley)

In all seriousness however, the only time I really feel like a "macho" is when a woman has climaxed (irrespective of any financial transaction) , and lies sweaty in complete submission, with her mouth slightly open in labored breathing and a smile on her face and I have stayed with her get to that state. I can't quite find words to describe that other than it feels like the union of the gods in Greek or Hindu liturgy. Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.

Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.[/QUOTE]Don't put down "Mr. V"! He's a good man, and might be your best friend one day, LOL.

If you have a weak heart, if you are on serious medication, if you are in a hospital, please don't read any further.

I had front row seating for something special Saturday. Info in the Gogo forum.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1182573]Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.[/QUOTE]Don't put down "Mr. V"! He's a good man, and might be your best friend one day, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yes, I spoke too soon. You are absolutely right about the time aspect of course to my (and I suspect, many others') chagrin!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182120]As I write this a beautiful girl from Santiago is laying next to me in bed watching music videos. We had so much fun last night that I was going to take her on a Puerto Plata date today, but she just fucked up and sadly to say it kind of made me think. She is watching videos now with no idea of what she just said. I asked if she liked Sosua, she said"yes". I then asked what she liked? The beach, the guys, Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't get hung up on what a prostitute says. What do you expect they have no education, dirty poor, no travel experience, no culture, etc. Their reality is what they see on TV, lying in bed, out at the club, on mean streets of DR. You want to treat someone to Puerto Plata take out a nice non pro girl. IMHO, Pros are meant to be taken to bed period. Not to listen to there brainless bullsh*t. We know all working girls have preferences, just like we do. Some prefer Europeans, some prefer American, some short, some tall, etc. I say who gives a sh*t about a working girls preferences. This is not a GF or wife that we have to make sure they are happy, or to understand there viewpoint, or cuddle them like an egg. F*ck that! All I feel I owe a working girl is to give her the agree upon money, fucking, and safe passage. Nothing more, nothing less. Sometimes kind of tired seeing forum space being occupied with discussion about what a working girl prefers. Nothing towards you Mr Gogo. Just using your comment as a sounding board.

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1182647]Pros are meant to be taken to bed period. This is not a GF or wife that we have to make sure they are happy, or to understand there viewpoint, or cuddle them like an egg. F*ck that! All I feel I owe a working girl is to give her the agree upon money, fucking, and safe passage. Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]Your not the only one. My idea of GFE is Get the Fuck out my room within 2 two minutes of me finishing the job. Couldn't care less about their name or anything else. The only present a puta has got from me is my dick and it will contiune that way, no Save a Ho program, No GFE fantasy and NO Western Union.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1182654]Your not the only one. My idea of GFE is Get the Fuck out my room within 2 two minutes of me finishing the job. Couldn't care less about their name or anything else. The only present a puta has got from me is my dick and it will contiune that way, no Save a Ho program, No GFE fantasy and NO Western Union.[/QUOTE]Lopkx and HB69, I respect your opinions always, but some guys prefer to "Stick and move" while others prefer to"Stay and play".

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182505]It all goes to what I'm seeing in the "New sosua", no GFE. Costa Rica is Unionized and the girls look down on girls that under cut the price structure. How long before Sosua becomes this? There is still adventure aqui, but the fun appears to me earlier in the week. Monday through Thursday the chicas appear more flexible because there are less dudes.[/QUOTE]Your analysis is the type of logic I was referring to before when I said Sosua seemed to be trending in this direction. I'm not sure what they charge at places like Passions or Illusions in Santiago or some of the high-end places in SDQ, but it does seem like there are places outside of Sosua that charge higher prices. Seeing the change in the "New Sosua" I think it is possible at some point in the future. As you pointed out, we've already seen a shift away from GFE and a move to a more business like mentality, something many folks would have not envisioned 6 years ago.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1182654]Your not the only one. My idea of GFE is Get the Fuck out my room within 2 two minutes of me finishing the job. Couldn't care less about their name or anything else. The only present a puta has got from me is my dick and it will contiune that way, no Save a Ho program, No GFE fantasy and NO Western Union.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. Not everyone has the courage to pour his heart out on a board like this.

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1182647]I wouldn't get hung up on what a prostitute says. What do you expect they have no education, dirty poor, no travel experience, no culture, etc. Their reality is what they see on TV, lying in bed, out at the club, on mean streets of DR. You want to treat someone to Puerto Plata take out a nice non pro girl. IMHO, Pros are meant to be taken to bed period. Not to listen to there brainless bullsh*t. We know all working girls have preferences, just like we do. Some prefer Europeans, some prefer American, some short, some tall, etc. I say who gives a sh*t about a working girls preferences. This is not a GF or wife that we have to make sure they are happy, or to understand there viewpoint, or cuddle them like an egg. F*ck that! All I feel I owe a working girl is to give her the agree upon money, fucking, and safe passage. Nothing more, nothing less. Sometimes kind of tired seeing forum space being occupied with discussion about what a working girl prefers. Nothing towards you Mr Gogo. Just using your comment as a sounding board.[/QUOTE]Yeah Prostitutes will say whatever they think will make you happy and feel good. At the end of the day there trying to find ways on how they can get another buck out of you.

Time and Time again I see guys fall into the trap of "She says she loves me, and she miss me" only to find out there sending these stupid bitches western union.

Do guys ever think women can Lie too?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182120]As I write this a beautiful girl from Santiago is laying next to me in bed watching music videos. We had so much fun last night that I was going to take her on a Puerto Plata date today, but she just fucked up and sadly to say it kind of made me think. She is watching videos now with no idea of what she just said. I asked if she liked Sosua, she said"yes". I then asked what she liked? The beach, the guys, Classicos? She said "noo Classicos too many Americanos negro" and they are "feo". Damn what am I? I'm thinking they have us stereo typed according to darkness. Because I'm light skinned I'm not Americano negro. Maybe growing up in Santiago, maybe they hadn't had exposure to AA. It just made me think. Or maybe Frannie was correct that some women are maybe having bad experiences with Americanos.[/QUOTE]Just left Classicos and saw the Santiago girl with a dark brother. She had called me earlier in the day but I ignored her call. She is a buisness woman, so I understand. I guess she is telling him that she hates white guys LMAO.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182658]Lopkx and HB69, I respect your opinions always, but some guys prefer to "Stick and move" while others prefer to"Stay and play".[/QUOTE]GFE is more fun, than mechanical sex. Passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. Sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. I would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.

I fly out today so thought I'd get a good night sleep, to be fresh looking when my Thai girlfriend picks me up at the airport. Its 3am and I'm restless so decided to walk down el flow to pickup a stragler. After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182752]Just left Classicos and saw the Santiago girl with a dark brother. She had called me earlier in the day but I ignored her call. She is a buisness woman, so I understand. I guess she is telling him that she hates white guys LMAO.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the chuckle this Monday as I go to work. At the end of the day, she is still a puta and wants money so as you said she has to make certain business decisions. Enjoy your day in paradise!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1181131]Hi, I have a curiosity about rating of chicas at Sosua. How many chicas get 7-8 rating vote? In other words, if at Sosua there are 100 girls, how may girls are really beautiful?

Thanks for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]Beauty is subjective so what you think is a 5 others might think is a 10. It's best for you to go there and look for yourself or check some of the photos in this section, but that still doesn't give you the full picture since those are pics of what those guys like. In the meantime, if you're close to NYC there is a Dominican parade in a couple of weeks that will have some nice talent so stop through if your around. The talent will be something like this, which I don't know where you rate but its hittable: [url]http://youtu.be/r2wETS4Mo08[/url]

Could someone please recommend an apartment to rent for the later part of August.

I know there are plenty of reports contained in the forum but I would like to rent somewhere near the Club Resudentisl area to Passions, not have any chica issues with the management, not pay too much, just a one bedroon or studio with kitchenette and TV.

And most importantly current information. We all know how thing change.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1182484]Now that we have had the Internet for about 15 years, there is probably a whole generation of younger men whose ideas about sex have been somewhat influenced by Internet porn rather than being taught by women how to please a woman.

Just a thought.[/QUOTE]Damn Frannie, your post must have caught somebody's attention over the weekend, LOL:

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By Dr. Madeleine Castellanos.

Published August 01, 2011.

| FoxNews. Com.

[i]"When it comes to sex and the male member, the laws of physics don't always apply. What goes up sometimes comes down all too quickly, or sometimes stays up all too long. Never-ending stamina—and an always-hard penis— may sound great on paper, but in reality, it can be awkward and exhausting for both of you....

One of the major reasons is the rapid proliferation of Internet porn—these days, all you have to do is log on to your laptop to be a few clicks away from everything from the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue to hardcore video clips. Easy access to porn has made frequent masturbation among men more common, which turn can increase the time it takes to reach orgasm and ejaculate during real sex. With so many varieties of porn at your fingertips, you may get in the habit of having a steady flow of sexual novelty and intense visual stimulation and therefore have a more difficult time reaching peak levels of sexual arousal with your real-world partner...."[/i]

Read more: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/07/28/too-much-good-thing-when-sex-lasts-too-long/#ixzz1Tn1uZjLb[/url]

[quote=orgasmico;1182867]it's best for you to go there and look for yourself.[/quote]not possible. his mum keeps him locked in his bedroom apart from meal times and the weekly visit to the therapist. that's why he has so much time to post hundreds of dumbass questions on this and other boards.

[quote=jaosousa;1182782]gfe is more fun, than mechanical sex. passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. i would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.[/quote]exactamente, amigo. to me the flirtation, acting, and all that goes with it is what makes it enjoyable. otherwise you might as well find a hole in a wall with some guy's mouth on the other side and insert your organ. no pillow talk.

today i am walking into town and unexpectedly run into one of the chicas on my current roster coming in the other direction. we touch hands, kiss on the cheek, brief conversation, see you later, a hug, a reminder of how soft is her skin, and a twinge of arousal occurs as a reminder of what may happen later in the day. that is what makes you feel alive.

now this chica is attractive, though perhaps not the world's greatest looker, and has a missing front tooth where she crunched on a chicken bone and broke it, but she has a wonderful body, skin like velvet, and a kind and affectionate nature, and i love she way she moves her hips when she fucks. what more could you want when you are old enough to be her grandfather?

she has a friend who is probably a 10 whom i can have if i want, but right now i just have her on hold.

as i am writing this a sweet, shy young haitiana of 19 comes tapping on my door having walked over from charamicos across the beach to see if i need anything. actually i don't right now and i give her a kiss on the cheek send her on her way with 50 pesos for the moto. if this causes offense to the meat-and-potatoes guys, then so be it.

age is a factor. as i am about 3 times the age of many of these chicas, i could easily be their grandfather, so i see their antics, their fantasies, their fake biographies, their tricks, as amusing diversions as part of the struggle for survival. i don't perceive them as equal business partners entering a contract in which my sole interest is to get a good deal on my side of the bargain. i give them what i want to give them, and i decide to what extent the relationship might continue in the future.

younger guys may, at least subconsciously, experience these chicas as age group peers and so be much more critical and demanding, especially if they have previously been traumatized by unsatisfactory sexual relations or broken promises.

of course the sex isn't always perfect, but the remarkable thing is that in the last month i have had sex four times (two different girls) that was as good as any sexual experience i have had in my life, both in my amateur career and as a pro. which is remarkable given that my best sexual days ought to be decades behind me. you can never reverse ageing and be young again, but this is the next best thing.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;

In all seriousness however, the only time I really feel like a "macho" is when a woman has climaxed (irrespective of any financial transaction) , and lies sweaty in complete submission, with her mouth slightly open in labored breathing and a smile on her face and I have stayed with her get to that state. I can't quite find words to describe that other than it feels like the union of the gods in Greek or Hindu liturgy. Much more powerful than a dumb blue pill ever will be.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I love being able to get a woman off, even if it's a chick that I've paid for. I had a semi pro in Sosua back in June who was trying her best to not have a good time as I drilled away. Then I heard her whisper those two magic words "aye papi!" and I broke into a huge smile. Her whole attitude changed after she came, and she wanted to hang around afterwards. Finally had to kick her out. LOL. I live to get women off (either with the tongue, the magic wand or both) regardless if I'm paying. That's just me.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1182782]GFE is more fun, than mechanical sex. Passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. Sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. I would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.[/QUOTE]Of course GFE is more fun. But what alot of guys forget is that they are dealing with LATINAS. You want them to get freaky. You better freak them. This I know to be a bonafide fact. If you expect them to be freaky off the drop????? Well. I can't call it.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182801]After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.[/QUOTE]Why should she settle for that when there has been such a big spike in New Sosua mongers, most of whom don't know the first thing about the country, the culture, or how to negotiate in the DR? He gets there and tell the girl it's his first trip, he doesn't know spanish and has no regard for anything but wanting to bust a quick drunk nut and go to sleep. They've started outnumbering the the seasoned mongers like you so the girls have started trying to clown everyone. I look around when I'm in Sosua and I see mostly raw newbies. Guys are regularly giving street rats 100 bucks for short time.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1183247]Why should she settle for that when there has been such a big spike in New Sosua mongers, most of whom don't know the first thing about the country, the culture, or how to negotiate in the DR? He gets there and tell the girl it's his first trip, he doesn't know spanish and has no regard for anything but wanting to bust a quick drunk nut and go to sleep. They've started outnumbering the the seasoned mongers like you so the girls have started trying to clown everyone. I look around when I'm in Sosua and I see mostly raw newbies. Guys are regularly giving street rats 100 bucks for short time.[/QUOTE]Chicas have figured out once the weekend boys come to be more stubborn. There were some deals earlier in the week. Before this trip I didn't think these girls knew how to say"cien".

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1182459]It's not just the Dominicans. My partner is Haitian. Whenever we are watching American films with (dark) black actors she claims they are all Haitians. I have tried to explain to her that only a relatively small minority of African Americans have any Haitian origins but they all remain "Haitians" to her.

I wonder if Frannie's wife would have still called the guy "haitiano" had he not been mentally ill?[/QUOTE]Probably so. Today she commented that as a result of lazing by the pool I was ¨muy negro¨ and that I was starting to look like a Haitiano. Given that I am a fair skinned Caucasian with straight gray hair, this seems like a touch of hyperbole. However, my wife, like most Dominicans, is never wrong. Meanwhile I have been honing my Haitian Creole conversational skills with some of my new compatriots and am completing my studies in Voudoun.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182801]I fly out today so thought I'd get a good night sleep, to be fresh looking when my Thai girlfriend picks me up at the airport. Its 3am and I'm restless so decided to walk down el flow to pickup a stragler. After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.[/QUOTE]

Never mind. Your post reminded me of some verses written on the same subject, so I hope this will make up for the disappointment.



When I was young and had no sense.

In far-off Mandalay.

I lost my heart to a Burmese girl.

As lovely as the day.

Her skin was gold, her hair was jet,

Her teeth were ivory;

I said,"for twenty silver pieces,

Maiden, sleep with me".

She looked at me, so pure, so sad,

The loveliest thing alive,

And in her lisping, virgin voice,

Stood out for twenty-five.

(George Orwell. 1925 approx.)

[QUOTE=Frannie;1183299]Today [b]she[/b] commented that as a result of lazing by the pool I was ¨muy negro¨ and that I was starting to [b]look like a Haitiano[/b].[/QUOTE]LOL, that's like the pot calling the kettle "black." Just goes to show how uneducated and ignorant most Dominicans are. Do they not know that the Haitians had the DR on lock for 22yrs? :

[i]The Haitian occupation of Santo Domingo was Haiti's military invasion and ensuing 22-year occupation of the newly independent Republic of Spanish Haiti, formerly the Captaincy General of Santo Domingo, what is present-day Dominican Republic, from February 9, 1822 until February 27, 1844. [/i]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo[/url]

That "Haitiano" she is talking shit about probably turns out to be a not too distant cousin!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1183299]Given that I am a fair skinned [b]Caucasian[/b].[/QUOTE]Bit of a threadjack, but are they still using that stupid expression in the US? I use to hear it a lot in police dramas on TV but not so much in stuff made during the last two decades. It derives from racial theories that were discredited a century ago except among Nazis. I thought it had finally been consigned to the trashcan.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1183299]Probably so. Today she commented that as a result of lazing by the pool I was ¨muy negro¨ and that I was starting to look like a Haitiano. Given that I am a fair skinned Caucasian with straight gray hair, this seems like a touch of hyperbole. However, my wife, like most Dominicans, is never wrong. Meanwhile I have been honing my Haitian Creole conversational skills with some of my new compatriots and am completing my studies in Voudoun.[/QUOTE]I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1183326]I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.[/QUOTE]Mr. G. Maybe she meant to say "Triqueña"? That means "wheat, honey colored" LOL. Racial skin tone social structures is something that is passed on from generation to generation in Latin America. It is something installed in them from infancy and it's impossible for them the think otherwise. Latinas are very ignorant when it comes to these subjects and trying to argue with them or make them change their minds is futile.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1182801]I fly out today so thought I'd get a good night sleep, to be fresh looking when my Thai girlfriend picks me up at the airport. Its 3am and I'm restless so decided to walk down el flow to pickup a stragler. After dodging all the crack heads that linger around the curve at Terra Linda saw a girl walking down the street leaving Classico dressed nice. I said donde tu va? She said home. I said how much to go home with me? She said 2500p, Damn its 3:30am. I turned and ignored her expecting a counter offer. After ten seconds looked over my shoulder and she was walking away. Since when do girls go home with nada verses making a deal? Damn hurt my feelings LOL. Only in the new Sosua.[/QUOTE]Yea gogo, I noticed this a lot when I was there last month. Usually a chica would damn near let me call the price, but now they are stuck on $2500 or nothing. I was like wow. What happened to my sweet sosua. Lololo

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1183247]Why should she settle for that when there has been such a big spike in New Sosua mongers, most of whom don't know the first thing about the country, the culture, or how to negotiate in the DR? He gets there and tell the girl it's his first trip, he doesn't know spanish and has no regard for anything but wanting to bust a quick drunk nut and go to sleep. They've started outnumbering the the seasoned mongers like you so the girls have started trying to clown everyone. I look around when I'm in Sosua and I see mostly raw newbies. Guys are regularly giving street rats 100 bucks for short time.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right about this. I had a regular quote me 3000. I was like, 'baby, you never charged me that before, ' she kind of just gave me a look. But you see that weekend there was a white party at new garden with a lot of NEW YORKERS and I bet a lot of them were paying that price. I think I may start doing just haitianas and regulars who know what I pay. LOL. I respect inflation and all but goddayum!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1182782]GFE is more fun, than mechanical sex. Passion (or great acting) is better than being with a chica who is just going through the motions. Sometimes the less attractive chicas, can be more passionate. I would rather be with an average looking passionate chica, than with a "10" model chica, who is a cold fish.[/QUOTE]DR chicas are just like transportation.

ST puta = motoconcho ride (short and a little dangerous)


TLN = Taxi (a little more relaxed, go where you want during the ride.


GF = Rental Car (yours when you reserve)


Wifey = Your car (go when and where you want, but pay the maintenace)


Choose your ride, fellas!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1183326]I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.[/QUOTE]They are extremely ignorant, but I have had a few tell me that we are all black. Etc. I was shocked.

I am proud to announce the North Coast return of my friend, Helpmann, a Monger's Monger! He is one of the most knowlegeable, profligate posters on the South Coast. Because he and I always like the same chicas, my favoritas will be placed in detention until his departure! While in Buenos Aires, a city of 10 million, amazingly, we independently, found and liked the same chicas. And in the DR, at different times, we had the same novia! Sosua, you have been given fair warning, Studly Helpmann will 'blow-away' all the chicas!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1183326]I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, my wife is not black either, she is morena (brown) and don't you forget it. When I asked her who she would vote for, she said Obama, ¨because he is brown like me. '

But every society and language has its conventions, that don't necessarily make much sense once you go outside of the society where those conventions are accepted.

Even among Europeans having a good sun tan was not historically considered to be a sign of good health or sexiness, but a lower status indication of working as a field hand or sailor, and having pale or white skin was always considered a sign of high status, wealth and class. Nothing really changes.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1183304]LOL, that's like the pot calling the kettle "black." Just goes to show how uneducated and ignorant most Dominicans are. Do they not know that the Haitians had the DR on lock for 22yrs? :

[i]The Haitian occupation of Santo Domingo was Haiti's military invasion and ensuing 22-year occupation of the newly independent Republic of Spanish Haiti, formerly the Captaincy General of Santo Domingo, what is present-day Dominican Republic, from February 9, 1822 until February 27, 1844. [/i]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo[/url]

That "Haitiano" she is talking shit about probably turns out to be a not too distant cousin![/QUOTE]Africa is a big continent and it seems that black Dominicans and black Haitians come from different parts of Africa, even when they might look alike to you, they're different.

For Latinos, there are different shades of black.

I'd say that Haitians are looked down, not because of the color of their skins but their poverty. It's known that poverty is a result of lack of initiative and people with that kind of attitude is not respected.

We (mongers) are viewed as "rich" and because of it, above the women we deal with, the putas, in spite of our skin color but once we go up the ladder, the skin color does matter, and it's good to be aware of that in order to avoid disappointments.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1183341]Latinas are very ignorant when it comes to these subjects and trying to argue with them or make them change their minds is futile.[/QUOTE]Why call someone ignorant because it doesn't conform to your way of thinking? Remember that it goes both ways, you see them as ignorant and so they see you!

Arguments are futile, the result is adding more fuel to the flame. Nobody wins!

You don't have the power to change anyone but yourself, so your choice is to conform to their ways or live and let die.

By the way, when black with money (happens all the time) hook up with white women (black women don't act the same) , isn't that stating that white women are better?

Personally, I'm a Latino who grew up thinking I was white but when it comes to women, I do 'them all, and my best phucks ever were with black women, so when given a choice, it's obvious what I choose!

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger;1183399]
I'd say that Haitians are looked down, not because of the color of their skins but their poverty. [b]It's known that poverty is a result of lack of initiative and people with that kind of attitude is not respected[/b].
[/QUOTE]

You're joking, right? You're telling me that the Haitians are poor because they lack initiative? What about the poor Dominicans? Are they also poor because they lack initiative? Forgive me for not noticing the abundance of job opportunities in the DR / Haiti.

For the record, this "lack of initiative" b.s. is the same argument used on Blacks in the USA; that the reason Black people are poor is because they "lack initiative" (read "lazy"). As a Latino, you should know that Mexicans and Puerto Ricans get hit with this stereotype as well.

Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

Jay

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1183432]Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

Jay[/QUOTE]Not sure, but POP does seem to be in Emily's path. There is a good chance you could get stuck at MIA International (or whichever airport you are flying out of to POP) :

[url]http://www.stormpulse.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1183432]Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

Jay[/QUOTE]These things are always unpredictable. All you can do is make your travel arrangements as normal and hope for the best. The center of a hurricane could pass 15 miles from POP and the airport is back in service 4 hours later after some heavy rain, or it could get a direct hit and be closed for days. Statistically the chances are usually that a hurricane will come nowhere near where you are, and remember that jet flights can go over hurricanes and round hurricanes quite easily. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1183367]I am proud to announce the North Coast return of my friend, Helpmann, a Monger's Monger! He is one of the most knowlegeable, profligate posters on the South Coast. Because he and I always like the same chicas, my favoritas will be placed in detention until his departure! While in Buenos Aires, a city of 10 million, amazingly, we independently, found and liked the same chicas. And in the DR, at different times, we had the same novia! Sosua, you have been given fair warning, Studly Helpmann will 'blow-away' all the chicas![/QUOTE]Hi Sidney,

I am looking forward to catching-up with you too. I'll email you my travel details.

Cheers!
Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger;1183399]Africa is a big continent and it seems that black Dominicans and black Haitians come from different parts of Africa.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rebel Monger;1183399]It's known that poverty is a result of lack of initiative.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rebel Monger;1183410]Personally, I'm a Latino .[/QUOTE]Gosh, what a surprise! And so well-educated and deep-thinking, too.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1183432]Hi Guys,

I'm scheduled to fly into POP on Thursday. Do you think Tropical Storm Emily will close airports? Will there be less action around? Help is appricrated.

Jay[/QUOTE]DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! I fly in on Friday to SDQ. I hope my flight is not impacted.

Outside all the drinking, eating, chicas, etc I am going to do. Is there a gym or place to exercise in Sosua? Just a place with treadmills, weights, the typical. Maybe other hotels that allow you to pay by the day. Any info on this subject?

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1182994]I totally agree. I love being able to get a woman off, even if it's a chick that I've paid for. I had a semi pro in Sosua back in June who was trying her best to not have a good time as I drilled away. Then I heard her whisper those two magic words "aye papi!" and I broke into a huge smile. Her whole attitude changed after she came, and she wanted to hang around afterwards. Finally had to kick her out. LOL. I live to get women off (either with the tongue, the magic wand or both) regardless if I'm paying. That's just me.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the club, Brother. I suspect many members abound. More so, since giving feels always better than getting.

The "aye papi" was beautiful to hear. First time for me this first trip of mine to a spanish speaking land (and no matter in what language it is vocalized or even not) and yes, the change of attitude is remarkable, always.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1183350]DR chicas are just like transportation.

ST puta = motoconcho ride (short and a little dangerous)

TLN = Taxi (a little more relaxed, go where you want during the ride.

GF = Rental Car (yours when you reserve)

Wifey = Your car (go when and where you want, but pay the maintenace)

Choose your ride, fellas![/QUOTE]Touche"! Isn't this maxim true irrespective of geography, color of skin, station in life and the somewhat quaint effort to ascribe primacy to long term when long term a famous Economist had defined as,"in the long run, we are all dead"? The Zen is: never mind the mode of transportation, enjoy the ride. (smiley).

[quote=frannie;1182992]younger guys may, at least subconsciously, experience these chicas as age group peers and so be much more critical and demanding, especially if they have previously been traumatized by unsatisfactory sexual relations or broken promises.[/quote]that is the beauty of age. which strangely (to me) the young domenicanas apparently go for: kindness and the knowledge of "when to hold them, when to fold them when to walk away and when to run". as kenny rogers sang. good for you frannie!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1183326]I've known this before, but it still amazes me that Domincans are so brain washed regarding race. I guess the culture has implanted in them that there are no other realities. I'm not sure if it stems from their Haitian hatred, or their wanting to be superior. Its one of the reasons I could never take a Dominicana serious, or ever trust her. Two years ago I was in the room with my Dominicana, who is darker than me, and I said you are black. She sat up shook her head and said she is never black. I said what are you, she said"taino" or something like that. Can you imagine if I brought one of these girls to the States (which I would never do) and I took her to the family reunion and she says "I'm not black"? The looks I would get would be priceless. Or if she looks at a baby and say"he is so black is he Haitian"? I would get run out the family.[/QUOTE]

Princessa is a beautiful chocolate color, but in the first few days of our meeting she used to go on and on about various family members who were light skinned, like she was so damn proud to be associated with them, as if I gave a fuck.

But I learned how shade is important socially to them, when I saw nothing but light skinned TV novella stars, TV hosts, rich folks, and politicians etc.

Then when the kids asked me to bring Barbie dolls, I searched for a couple of brown or black ones, and they were hard to find. But when I took a few down with me they all wanted the blonde ones. Go figure.

It's unnacceptable to me to see that the most beautiful black children I ever saw, have to grow up with these superficially imposed social values, forced on them by their own society.

I haven't been to Sosua in years. I used to spend a lot of time there. Eventually I got burnt out and found other pastures. But I hope to take a trip down there soon and I was wondering how things are nowadays.

I know The Palace is no more. How about the Blue Dolphin and it's owner Canadian John? From what I've seen on this thread it looks like Passions, which was once a tiny bar on the Blue Dolphin property owned by a German guy, has greatly expanded. Are all the same old clubs open? How about the bars? Any major changes I should know about. I will read the forum, but I'd like to hear it directly if there's been any major modifications. Have prices changed a lot?

I recently found a video with Claudia and her big tits in it. Old timers like me may remember her from The Palace: [url]http://xhamster.com/movies/634460/english_cpl_with_dominican.html[/url]

I've been to Sosua twice since my last report and I'll say this: I haven't reported anything or posted any pictures because this place is swarming with snitches. I Went back to nothing but dirty looks and cold shouldiers from chicas I've had previous relationship with. A few members on here warned me but wow. We got to do better fellas.

Sosua isn't as lively as it was in feb but I'm happy. It has been raining a lot so the place has been a little empty. Mostly I see the same chicas over and over with a few new ones here and there. Though it beats boca chica any day it's slowly becoming boca chica. I see too may guys lingering trying to sell you stuff and trying to make a commission. Latinos is still pretty empty, Classicos is still the place to be, Passions still has great talent but stiff pricing, Cmp goes from having fuguly chicas to good ones back fuguly and the Coyote bar is horrible. I'm an early morning monger or I should say an all day monger so I'm disapointed by the drop off in chicas during the day. New Garden has women sometimes. Also New garden rooms are too expensive. We need a better ISG discount rate! And with credit card too.

What I've been doing was taking a flight to santo domingo hitting boca chica and taking a bus to sousa. Tons of fun!

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1183690]I've been to Sosua twice since my last report and I'll say this: I haven't reported anything or posted any pictures because this place is swarming with snitches. I Went back to nothing but dirty looks and cold shouldiers from chicas I've had previous relationship with. A few members on here warned me but wow. We got to do better fellas.![/QUOTE]Wow! Thanks for that.

Always guessed you could blow your cover here, but thought I was just being paranoid.

Sad to see to have to make an effort to find good looking chicas now, whereas before the used to swarm you.

Ah well.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1183690]Sosua isn't as lively as it was in feb but I'm happy. It has been raining a lot so the place has been a little empty. Mostly I see the same chicas over and over with a few new ones here and there. Though it beats boca chica any day it's slowly becoming boca chica. I see too may guys lingering trying to sell you stuff and trying to make a commission. Latinos is still pretty empty, Classicos is still the place to be, Passions still has great talent but stiff pricing, Cmp goes from having fuguly chicas to good ones back fuguly and the Coyote bar is horrible. I'm an early morning monger or I should say an all day monger so I'm disapointed by the drop off in chicas during the day. New Garden has women sometimes. Also New garden rooms are too expensive. We need a better ISG discount rate! And with credit card too.

What I've been doing was taking a flight to santo domingo hitting boca chica and taking a bus to sousa. Tons of fun![/QUOTE]Thanks for this update Jfregedie.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1183420]You're joking, right? You're telling me that the Haitians are poor because they lack initiative? What about the poor Dominicans? Are they also poor because they lack initiative? Forgive me for not noticing the abundance of job opportunities in the DR / Haiti.

For the record, this "lack of initiative" be. S. Is the same argument used on Blacks in the USA; that the reason Black people are poor is because they "lack initiative" (read "lazy"). As a Latino, you should know that Mexicans and Puerto Ricans get hit with this stereotype as well.[/QUOTE]No, I'm not joking!

When you say "forgive me for not noticing the abundance of job opportunities in DR / Haiti", you're telling me that you're looking for somebody else to solve your problems. Why don't you create your own job? You take a thousand miles journey a step at a time, but most people wait for transportation to take them there. Also, there are plenty of people (are you one of them?) looking for excuses of why it can't be done.

It seems that you don't know the difference between a person who lacks initiative and a lazy person. It's not the same, at least in my book. A person lacking initiative could be motivated; with a lazy person, you'd be wasting your time. Got it now?

John Harold Johnson was born in 1918, was black and proved beyond any doubt that a black person could make it in USA when it was pretty damn hard to do. Let's hope that he re-incarnates soon, as a black man again, or a Mexican, or Puerto Rican!

There's always some true behind stereotypes. If we Latinos are hit with a stereotype is because we deserve it. It really makes my day when somebody asks me where I'm from and when I tell them, they go "oh, you don't sound and act like one of them". My task as a Latino (Cuban) is to prove that the few bad examples among us are not a representation of us all. Are you a good representation of your own people (whatever it might be) or you help to reinforce the stereotype? Remember, laws can be passed to "control" what I say and do, but not what I think and believe.

SavePros321, the problem with me is that I refuse to see myself as a victim!

Have a good day!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1183460]Gosh, what a surprise! And so well-educated and deep-thinking, too.[/QUOTE]I don't understand, do you want me to feel sorry for you? I can't. I tend to see people for their real potential not for what they are in this moment in time.

One thing I'll never be is "politically correct", that's for hypocrites. A real man would appreciate the true. Would think about it, if needed; make corrections. Then appreciate the sincerity and help. Some are always trying to find shadows in the sun. What a waste!

God (or whatever you think it's responsible for who you are) gave you two ears and one mouth, use them proportionally, and you might learn something. And don't forget, you can't fight class with the lack of it, as a matter of fact, you shouldn't be fighting it but acquiring it.

I don't care for your sarcastic remarks Charles Pooter, it's pretty damn good to be me, and it's getting better!

Have a wonderful day Sir!

This used to be such a nice & friendly forum; what happen? Will be in Sosua on the 10th for 6 nights. Any nice, and only nice forum members, chime up, I'm buying!

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger;1183830]John Harold Johnson was born in 1918, was black and proved beyond any doubt that a black person could make it in USA when it was pretty damn hard to do. Let's hope that he re-incarnates soon, as a black man again, or a Mexican, or Puerto Rican![/QUOTE]

Johnson was the founder of Ebony Magazine. His family moved to Chicago from Arkansas to escape poverty and received welfare payments for to years when his mother could not find any work. The family economics improved after both his step father and Johnson himself found employment under New Deal employment programs promoted by the Roosvelt administration.

Louis Armstrong was born in New Orleans in 1901 and made it in the USA, after also migrating north to Chicago but not without considerable difficulties including a period in Europe hiding out from organized crime in the US, being exploited by his own manager, and on tour frequently not be allowed to use the men's toilets in the clubs he played in, and having to stay in private homes as he would not be welcome at hotels or motels.

However, the fact of his success lay entirely in the fact that he was a uniquely talented performer who virtually single handed transformed both jazz music from an ensemble form to a soloing form and then, after he injured his lip, brought some of the same techniques to vocal pop singinging and influenced every popular singer who came after. His career was also promoted by some influential whites, such as Bing Crosby, who recognized his talent and sought to bring it before a white audience.

However such cases are the exceptions that prove the rule and while exceptional individuals may sometimes overcome a hostile environment, this cannot really be considered to be a broad based solution to the predicament of Haitians in the Dominican Republic most of whom face considerable difficulty based on refugee status and on ethnic discrimination. There is no welfare system such as supported Johnson´s family, nor government supported job programs for them such as helped Johnson and his family escape early poverty, and even Louis Armstrong had the benefit of several years in an orphanage with a band, without which he would never have learned to play the trumpet.

I will be in Sosua area August 9th, my plan is to stay for at least a month. If any of you want.

To meet private message me contact info. I have a cell phone I will be bringing to get a local number,

I used it before in Santo Domingo with no problems.

I have RTTF so I think I am prepared as I can be, thanks for all the great information and motivation.

To make this trip. I am cashing in the last of my frequent flyer miles so the cost of my flight is only $100.

The downside is I have to fly in to SDQ (Mon Aug 8th) arrive about 13:30 so I have decided to catch a.

Cab to boca chica and spend the night there.

I should be in Sosua on Tues August 9th to meet up with a realtor to look at some properties to rent.

I have a couple questions, I plan on bringing my home computer, which is 3 24 inch flat panel monitors.

And a small platform mini tower, will easily fit in a carry on bag, which is what I plan to do, carry it on.

I am flying out of Atlanta customs, if that makes a difference? I don't want to check it as luggage

Afraid of loss or damage. Do you think they will let me on with it or make me set it all up and turn it on?

Second question which has been covered here but, wondering what the current internet situation is like

In Sosua or Puerta plata area? Are air cards available? If so are they fast and reliable? Or should I plan.

On getting wired service in the rental apartment etc?

Thanks again looking forward to hopefully meeting some of you while there.

[quote=frannie;1183981]however such cases are the exceptions that prove the rule and while exceptional individuals may sometimes overcome a hostile environment, this cannot really be considered to be a broad based solution to the predicament of haitians in the dominican republic most of whom face considerable difficulty based on refugee status and on ethnic discrimination.[/quote]i hate to take this to the political realm but that is the prevailing republican economic logic. each one for himself and taxes are bad. of course, one forgets that without taxes, there will be no public roads or garbage collection or essential infrastructure of electricity, water, sewage and so forth that distinguishes the western civilization from the third world, where there are many "seriously" rich people many by dint of stealing but just look outside their mansions, it will most likely be a garbage dump. and of course, we forget the likes of hobbes, locke, rousseau or voltaire without whom the western civilization would just be another third world.

that africa was raped for several hundred years, by the likes of "sir" cecil rhodes and all colonizing powers by stripping the continent of its most important economic resources, its people. has never quite seeped through our consciousness. that large and manual labor intensive plantations in north and south america, and indeed in asia (cotton, tea and rubber) manned by cheap / free labor was sheer economic bliss for the plantation owners eludes us. that families were continuously broken up by selling people as commodities was never an issue and today we wonder why the black families are mostly only the mama and the children. some of these things were also done by the spanish to the indians living in the americas as well but i digress.

p. s. : i am a native of the third world, for the record and while i have all the contraptions of well-to-do living, i do think it is business sense (a la milton friedman) to take care of my brother, so that god forbid, one day, i may hope for kindness should i need it.

[QUOTE=Ave White Boy; 1184016]I will be in Sosua area August 9th, my plan is to stay for at least a month. If any of you want.

To meet private message me contact info. I have a cell phone I will be bringing to get a local number,

I used it before in Santo Domingo with no problems.

I have RTTF so I think I am prepared as I can be, thanks for all the great information and motivation.

To make this trip. I am cashing in the last of my frequent flyer miles so the cost of my flight is only $100.

The downside is I have to fly in to SDQ (Mon Aug 8th) arrive about 13:30 so I have decided to catch a.

Cab to boca chica and spend the night there.

I should be in Sosua on Tues August 9th to meet up with a realtor to look at some properties to rent.

I have a couple questions, I plan on bringing my home computer, which is 3 24 inch flat panel monitors.

And a small platform mini tower, will easily fit in a carry on bag, which is what I plan to do, carry it on.

I am flying out of Atlanta customs, if that makes a difference? I don't want to check it as luggage

Afraid of loss or damage. Do you think they will let me on with it or make me set it all up and turn it on?

Second question which has been covered here but, wondering what the current internet situation is like

In Sosua or Puerta plata area? Are air cards available? If so are they fast and reliable? Or should I plan.

On getting wired service in the rental apartment etc?

Thanks again looking forward to hopefully meeting some of you while there.[/QUOTE]I would be wary about meeting with a realtor as they will, without any doubt whatsoever, be wanting to show you the pricier properties available and will feign no knowledge of cheaper places of which there are MANY available locally and advertised on the bulletin board at the supermarket or just found by walking around or by asking people. If you want a really nice apartment at the beach for $2000 per month with massive security, then that is no problem, but just depends on your budget.

Most rental apartment complexes have wifi available and included in the price. Even my humble apartment at $400 per month has free electricity, pool, wi-fi, and satellite TV.

There are also numerous Internet cafes. I think you can get wireless modems, but you probably need to make that decision once you get here and know where you will be staying, as it may not be needed.

You should be OK with bringing the computer as carry on baggage, but are you sure the 3 24 inch monitors will fit in a carry on?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1184021]Some of these things were also done by the Spanish to the Indians living in the Americas as well but I digress.[/QUOTE]I would also like to bring into evidence the case of Charles Dickens, whose father together with his whole family was sent to debtor's prison. Dickens was a talented child and from a young age his father would take him to taverns where he would stand upon the bar and sing, dance, and recite for pennies.

To help the family pay its way the 12-year-old Dickens was released from the prison so that he could go and work in a shoe Polish factory to earn money for the family.

By later writing about some of his experiences and including them in semiautobiographic novels like Oliver Twist and David Copperfield, Dickens became the most successful writer of his age and very wealthy, thus proving that in nineteenth century England any person with genius level talent could make it out of poverty if he just stopped feeling sorry for himself.

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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1183981]Johnson was the founder of Ebony Magazine. His family moved to Chicago from Arkansas to escape poverty and received welfare payments for to years when his mother could not find any work. The family economics improved after both his step father and Johnson himself found employment under New Deal employment programs promoted by the Roosvelt administration.

Louis Armstrong was born in New Orleans in 1901 and made it in the USA, after also migrating north to Chicago but not without considerable difficulties including a period in Europe hiding out from organized crime in the US, being exploited by his own manager, and on tour frequently not be allowed to use the men's toilets in the clubs he played in, and having to stay in private homes as he would not be welcome at hotels or motels.

However, the fact of his success lay entirely in the fact that he was a uniquely talented performer who virtually single handed transformed both jazz music from an ensemble form to a soloing form and then, after he injured his lip, brought some of the same techniques to vocal pop singinging and influenced every popular singer who came after. His career was also promoted by some influential whites, such as Bing Crosby, who recognized his talent and sought to bring it before a white audience.

However such cases are the exceptions that prove the rule and while exceptional individuals may sometimes overcome a hostile environment, this cannot really be considered to be a broad based solution to the predicament of Haitians in the Dominican Republic most of whom face considerable difficulty based on refugee status and on ethnic discrimination. There is no welfare system such as supported Johnson's family, nor government supported job programs for them such as helped Johnson and his family escape early poverty, and even Louis Armstrong had the benefit of several years in an orphanage with a band, without which he would never have learned to play the trumpet.[/QUOTE]One needs resources and opportunities. The more of these the greater chance of success. The nations that have the greatest success, individually and nationally, are those with the greatest resources. This is a positive correlation. More resources-more success. Less resources-less success.

Factor in discrimination (limiting resources to certain groups) , basic needs (as Gandhi said [paraphrasing] 'how can people think of God when they are more concerned about putting food into their stomachs!) , extraordinary circumstances (earthquakes-which destroy life and resources) , and a couple of other variables, and you'll gain a better grasp of the limitations that some people encounter.

Then there is the utilization or resources, which is another chapter for another time.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1184023]I would be wary about meeting with a realtor as they will, without any doubt whatsoever, be wanting to show you the pricier properties available and will feign no knowledge of cheaper places of which there are MANY available locally and advertised on the bulletin board at the supermarket or just found by walking around or by asking people. If you want a really nice apartment at the beach for $2000 per month with massive security, then that is no problem, but just depends on your budget.

Most rental apartment complexes have wifi available and included in the price. Even my humble apartment at $400 per month has free electricity, pool, wi-fi, and satellite TV.

There are also numerous Internet cafes. I think you can get wireless modems, but you probably need to make that decision once you get here and know where you will be staying, as it may not be needed.

You should be OK with bringing the computer as carry on baggage, but are you sure the 3 24 inch monitors will fit in a carry on?[/QUOTE]The "realtor" I am meeting has several properties advertised for under $500 month, which is what I told him my budget was and I have spoke.

With him on the phone so I have high hopes he will not waste too much of our time. If not maybe we can be neighbors? Sounds like you found.

A good deal with the place you have.

Looking forward to my trip, how's the weather holding out?

[QUOTE=Ave White Boy; 1184072]The "realtor" I am meeting has several properties advertised for under $500 month, which is what I told him my budget was and I have spoke.

With him on the phone so I have high hopes he will not waste too much of our time. If not maybe we can be neighbors? Sounds like you found.

A good deal with the place you have.

Looking forward to my trip, how's the weather holding out?[/QUOTE]OK that is fine, though I wonder how a realtor can make any commission out of the cheaper properties. Of course it depends what is included in the $500. You are doing the right thing by looking first before making a decision.

Weather has been a little overcast with very light rain today, but pleasantly cool. We are not expecting a direct hit from the storm here.

I land in Santo Domingo heading to Sosua. Which bus should I take Metro or Caribe? What's the difference? Is it Caribe that has the currency exchange onsite? I land at 2PM if that makes a difference with bus schedules. Plus the time to take taxi to station from airport.

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1184147]I land in Santo Domingo heading to Sosua. Which bus should I take Metro or Caribe? What's the difference? Is it Caribe that has the currency exchange onsite? I land at 2PM if that makes a difference with bus schedules. Plus the time to take taxi to station from airport.[/QUOTE]I think you want Caribe Tours. This it the bus that travels all over the island. Not sure about currency exchange. According to their official webpage they have buses running from SDQ to Sosua every hour until 7pm. The cost is 330.00RD:

[url]http://caribetours.com.do/viajes[/url]

Bus Schedule (not sure how up-to-date it is) in the attached photo.

yeah carribe tours has more scheduled buses and is easier to hit the same day from sdq. just get thru customs as quickly as possible and tell the taxi to get you to carribe tours station, you'll still get raped by the airport taxi but it's difficult to avoid unless somebody has a solid alternative to just taking the lead taxi of the cartel.

[QUOTE=Lopkx;1184147]I land in Santo Domingo heading to Sosua. Which bus should I take Metro or Caribe? What's the difference? Is it Caribe that has the currency exchange onsite? I land at 2PM if that makes a difference with bus schedules. Plus the time to take taxi to station from airport.[/QUOTE]I like Caribe the best and yes they have a cambio in the terminal with good rates, passport is required to exchange money though.

Metro Bus is 30 minutes faster to Sosua if you can make the 4pm bus, it doesn't stop in La Vega thus faster but only 7am. 11am. 4pm departure times.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1184170]Metro Bus is 30 minutes faster to Sosua if you can make the 4pm bus, it doesn't stop in La Vega thus faster but only 7am. 11am. 4pm departure times.[/QUOTE]Metro also leaves you only a block from the strip, which might be better if you have bags and don't want to take additional transportation from the Caribe Tours stop in Charamicos. If you're staying somewhere like New Garden, its an easy walk from where Metro leaves you.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1184170]Metro Bus is 30 minutes faster to Sosua if you can make the 4pm bus, it doesn't stop in La Vega thus faster but only 7am. 11am. 4pm departure times.[/QUOTE]The Metro lets you off at a gas station, right across the street, from.

The hotel Don Antonios, Its a 5 minute walk to New Gardens. Plus.

Bring a jacket, the driver blast the air conditioner the whole, trip.

I almost froze to death. LOL. And the driver scares the hell out.

Of you. Just kidding it was a fun trip from Santo Domingo to Sosua.

You won't believe the cuties that ride The Metro bus, I got 3 numbers.

In the few 2 hours of the journey. Enjoy!

Seems like every other month I'm reading or hearing about a Canadian or Euro being shot or killed in the Sosua area. Most recently, the Dutch owner of Casa Valeria was shot at his home by a disgruntled Haitian ex-employee.

[url]http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2091:un-ciudadano-holandes-fue-herido-de-dos-balazos-por-desconocidos-cuando-llegaba-a-su-residencia-en-compania&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1184301]Seems like every other month I'm reading or hearing about a Canadian or Euro being shot or killed in the Sosua area. Most recently, the Dutch owner of Casa Valeria was shot at his home by a disgruntled Haitian ex-employee.

[url]http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2091:un-ciudadano-holandes-fue-herido-de-dos-balazos-por-desconocidos-cuando-llegaba-a-su-residencia-en-compania&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561[/url][/QUOTE]Written by: danny00, 27 Jul 2011 4:22 PM.

From: santo domingo.

Violence claims almost 600 lives.

The violence in the country intensified in the first six months of this year, with 570 homicides, an average of 95 each month. These statistics were compiled by Diario Libre using information from the National Institute of Forensic Pathology, reflecting an increase in crime that is shaking the country. During the same period there were 65 suicides with murders involving firearms in first place and stabbings in second place.

NEW YORK CITY IS BREAKING RECORDS. LAST YEAR WITH ALMOST 10 MILLION PEOPLE THEY HAD ONLY 536 MURDERS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

I almost forgot to put this post up. I was in Sosua last month and had an incident which furthers me to believe the f-ked up mentality that some of these dominicans have. I always thought in the back of my mind that a Dominicans, especially the ones in the tourist area have no sense of dignity nor respect for the people that actually spend money in their "community". Which makes me ask, are there any honest Dominican business owners in the Sosua area? In a country to where a good percentage of the people are barely able to make ends meet should make me think they would think otherwise. I don't want to generalize but I'm speaking off experience! I go to Sosua on a fairly regular basis and I am fully aware of the hustle that goes on. However some things shouldn't be tolerated.

Sooo my last trip was cool, relaxed and sun filled but I had an incident that made me shake my head even further. I needed to exchange some money back to Us because I was taking a ride over to Haiti. I was told you get more gourdes for dollars then pesos. So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill! I was soo freaking furious and said to him in my best spanish translation. Yo Parece stupido EH EH, Dame un billet Natural. I know it didn't translate perfect but he knew what I meant. So in a confused look he took the bill back checked it out then replaced it with a real bill. I'm like WTF. What the hell is wrong with these people. So I must say whenever I do business with a dominican, I keep a watchful eye! And a note to all, Be careful about that cambia, they'll try to rip you off if they can, so count your money in from of them!

[QUOTE=Slimtower; 1184607]I almost forgot to put this post up. I was in Sosua last month and had an incident which furthers me to believe the f-ked up mentality that some of these dominicans have. I always thought in the back of my mind that a Dominicans, especially the ones in the tourist area have no sense of dignity nor respect for the people that actually spend money in their "community". Which makes me ask, are there any honest Dominican business owners in the Sosua area? In a country to where a good percentage of the people are barely able to make ends meet should make me think they would think otherwise. I don't want to generalize but I'm speaking off experience! I go to Sosua on a fairly regular basis and I am fully aware of the hustle that goes on. However some things shouldn't be tolerated.

Sooo my last trip was cool, relaxed and sun filled but I had an incident that made me shake my head even further. I needed to exchange some money back to Us because I was taking a ride over to Haiti. I was told you get more gourdes for dollars then pesos. So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill! I was soo freaking furious and said to him in my best spanish translation. Yo Parece stupido EH EH, Dame un billet Natural. I know it didn't translate perfect but he knew what I meant. So in a confused look he took the bill back checked it out then replaced it with a real bill. I'm like WTF. What the hell is wrong with these people. So I must say whenever I do business with a dominican, I keep a watchful eye! And a note to all, Be careful about that cambia, they'll try to rip you off if they can, so count your money in from of them![/QUOTE]Manizales has reported problems with that cambio before. You know they wouldn't try to pull that BS on a fellow Dominican, because they might get shot.

Most tourist areas, there are rip-off type Dominicans, it is no surprise. They know they can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off and rip off a multitude of tourists and there will be new victims arriving weekly.

With all the tourist police in Sosua, you would think they could possibly do their job and protect tourists, by shutting down a rip off money exchange place. Where is the female mayor of Sosua, shutting down a rip off money exchange place? (not going to happen). But they have lots of time and energy to arrest and molest chicas walking around in Sosua (who are breaking no laws).

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1184607]So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars.[/QUOTE]The exchange rate last month in Sosua was $RD38 to buy Pesos and $38.50 to sell them. I would have been a little suspicious if he accepted $3650 for $USD100. Are you sure this was this year?

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1184309]Written by: danny00, 27 Jul 2011 4:22 PM.

From: santo domingo.

Violence claims almost 600 lives.

The violence in the country intensified in the first six months of this year, with 570 homicides, an average of 95 each month. These statistics were compiled by Diario Libre using information from the National Institute of Forensic Pathology, reflecting an increase in crime that is shaking the country. During the same period there were 65 suicides with murders involving firearms in first place and stabbings in second place.

NEW YORK CITY IS BREAKING RECORDS. LAST YEAR WITH ALMOST 10 MILLION PEOPLE THEY HAD ONLY 536 MURDERS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.[/QUOTE]Tough economic times, crime will go up. I was warned about an uptick in crime before my last trip to DR, two months ago. Robbers on motorcycles with guns, as a driver you have to be careful.

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1184607]So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill![/QUOTE]Your not the first one, the little fag tried shorting me 500 pesos and I said WTF? He asked to see the money then quickly gave me the 500 pesos he screwed me out of. JD1982 got shorted also.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1184301]Seems like every other month I'm reading or hearing about a Canadian or Euro being shot or killed in the Sosua area. Most recently, the Dutch owner of Casa Valeria was shot at his home by a disgruntled Haitian ex-employee.][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.

That's two people I knew fairly well, in the last six months. There was obviously a dispute in both cases as apparently no robberies were involved, and both were residents of Sosua.

Looks like mongers are relatively safe tho.

I've been called out here, for being a little too "passive", but the safe bet is to avoid any confrontation with locals.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1184681]Your not the first one, the little fag tried shorting me 500 pesos and I said WTF? He asked to see the money then quickly gave me the 500 pesos he screwed me out of. JD1982 got shorted also.[/QUOTE]I have written several times on this very board about this guy, he is a fucking thief, period. I can lead you horses to the water but I can't make you drink it.

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1184607]I needed to exchange some money back to Us because I was taking a ride over to Haiti. I was told you get more gourdes for dollars then pesos. So after having a drink at Classicos I take a walk down the block to the Cambio. Its right next to a female clothing store and in between El Flow. So I give the clerk 3650 pesos to exchange over for Us 100 Dollars. When I got the money I was going to walk away but something told me to count it. I counted 5 20 dollar bills however there was a problem! Would you believe this As-hole gave me 4 (real) 20 Dollar bills and one photocopied 20 dollar bill! I was soo freaking furious and said to him in my best spanish translation. Yo Parece stupido EH EH, Dame un billet Natural. I know it didn't translate perfect but he knew what I meant. So in a confused look he took the bill back checked it out then replaced it with a real bill. I'm like WTF. What the hell is wrong with these people. So I must say whenever I do business with a dominican, I keep a watchful eye! And a note to all, Be careful about that cambia, they'll try to rip you off if they can, so count your money in from of them![/QUOTE]About a year ago me and my two buddies went to the same exchange. When they change dollars into pesos the guy at the exchange shortchanged them. When I approached the window I gave him a $100 and I made sure that I counted the money before I left. He was hesitant to pull the same stunt on me as he did for my other two friends. I will never go to that exchange again.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1184739]About a year ago me and my two buddies went to the same exchange. When they change dollars into pesos the guy at the exchange shortchanged them. When I approached the window I gave him a $100 and I made sure that I counted the money before I left. He was hesitant to pull the same stunt on me as he did for my other two friends. I will never go to that exchange again.[/QUOTE]It's the fuckstick that works at night. He tried to do the same to me once and I called him out on it. Played the fool. There is another guy in the A. M. That's cool. I think he's religious. Anyway he alway's does the calculater thing and gives you the reciept, the asshole in the evening does not!

I can tell you from past very enjoyable vacations with Arien, he is a first class stand up guy. I have stayed at his hotel many times and he and his wife has protected me many times when I had toooooo mucho fun. So this must be part of the deranged culture folks learn in that part of the world. But I will continue to go until I get an experience that tells me that its time to wake up. I am hoping he is OK. Lets try to keep having fun!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1184683]Thanks for the report.

That's two people I knew fairly well, in the last six months. There was obviously a dispute in both cases as apparently no robberies were involved, and both were residents of Sosua.

Looks like mongers are relatively safe tho.

I've been called out here, for being a little too "passive", but the safe bet is to avoid any confrontation with locals.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sabor;1184743]It's the fuckstick that works at night. He tried to do the same to me once and I called him out on it. Played the fool. There is another guy in the A. M. That's cool. I think he's religious. Anyway he alway's does the calculater thing and gives you the reciept, the asshole in the evening does not![/QUOTE]I can personally vouche for the daytime guy that wears glasses, he matches the rate at Banco Santa Cruz, calculator tape and all. He even makes small change afterwards.

Night time is apparantly the wild wild west and I will not change money there after reading this thread.

AVOID this place after dark.

Buscemi

[QUOTE=Sabor;1184743]It's the fuckstick that works at night. He tried to do the same to me once and I called him out on it. Played the fool. There is another guy in the A. M. That's cool. I think he's religious. Anyway he alway's does the calculater thing and gives you the reciept, the asshole in the evening does not![/QUOTE]I've only been to this cambia in the A. M. and there was always an older guy with glasses on and a chica. They also used the calculator, count the money out in front of you, and give you a receipt. Never had any problems with this place but after reading everyone else's experience with this place I will avoid in the future.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1184808]I've only been to this cambia in the A. M. and there was always an older guy with glasses on and a chica. They also used the calculator, count the money out in front of you, and give you a receipt. Never had any problems with this place but after reading everyone else's experience with this place I will avoid in the future.[/QUOTE]It turns out that is where I change my dollars into pesos as well.

I will be there next week, any other place someone could recommend? I tried one of the banks before, but I waited forever and a day in line.

In my experiences with the (CHANGE) MEN the best spot during the day is at the corner at Bon Ice cream. They holler at you CHANGE- CHANGE- and it is pretty regular with the rate. If you have to change LATE not after 8PM go to the shop thats across the street from Baileys heading to the corner where the Happy Bar might be on the left side of the street. I heard the Happy Bar might have closed. Banco Popular is good for Debit withdrawl, not to much of a hit on fees and they have not frauded my debit card in 6 years- AMAZING.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1184820]It turns out that is where I change my dollars into pesos as well.

I will be there next week, any other place someone could recommend? I tried one of the banks before, but I waited forever and a day in line.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1184820]It turns out that is where I change my dollars into pesos as well.

I will be there next week, any other place someone could recommend? I tried one of the banks before, but I waited forever and a day in line.[/QUOTE]Myself and folks I know always use Sergio, the main guy who hangs around the Happy Bar corner. Never had a problem and he gives the best rate, At least he does for the chicas.

But as always, count your change (and your fingers) before you walk away, and never change money after dark. It's not their best time, or yours.

[QUOTE=Tsunami911;1184765]I can tell you from past very enjoyable vacations with Arien, he is a first class stand up guy. I have stayed at his hotel many times and he and his wife has protected me many times when I had toooooo mucho fun. So this must be part of the deranged culture folks learn in that part of the world. But I will continue to go until I get an experience that tells me that its time to wake up. I am hoping he is OK. Lets try to keep having fun![/QUOTE]I stayed there my very first times in Sosua and they always looked out for me. They always managed to come up with a room if my buddy fell in love around the corner. After dark there was always a guard behind that iron gate, so I imagine it must have happened in the daytime, or off premises.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpYYM24AI3s&feature=player_embedded[/url]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1185035][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpYYM24AI3s&feature=player_embedded[/url][/QUOTE]Guy got beaten by cops, as he refuses to cooperate?

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;1185056]Guy got beaten by cops, as he refuses to cooperate?[/QUOTE]No clue, just thought I would post Politur at it's best in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Tsunami911;1184830]In my experiences with the (CHANGE) MEN the best spot during the day is at the corner at Bon Ice cream. They holler at you CHANGE- CHANGE- and it is pretty regular with the rate. If you have to change LATE not after 8PM go to the shop thats across the street from Baileys heading to the corner where the Happy Bar might be on the left side of the street. I heard the Happy Bar might have closed. Banco Popular is good for Debit withdrawl, not to much of a hit on fees and they have not frauded my debit card in 6 years- AMAZING.[/QUOTE]The places I use have been rock solid for changing cash. Here is how to get to it. At NG coming out make a right. Cross to the left side. At the intersection make a left staying on the left. Pass Claro, a bar and some stores. You come to the corner of a small plaza at the left. That corner is the cambio, but I'm not good with names. Hay un salon del massaje alrededor esta esquina.

When one walks by Baileys Restaurant, on the way to Clisante, one passes by a bank (to your right). Beyond it is a gated area. Once you enter go straight and you will hit a massage place (I forget the name of it). Make a left and go straight until you reach a cell phone place that advertises unlocking phones (it will be to your right). Right before that place a guy is usually sitting outside a gate. Go through the gate into another gate and ring the bell, if necessary. Go in and a born again Christian guy will gladly exchange your money. In my opinion he gives the best rates in Sosua. I even saw a worker from New Garden go in there to exchange money.

The fellow used to work for Western Union and after leaving took the customer list with him. He likes to keep it low key and this is why he does not advertise. I would have never found the place if it wasn't for someone showing it to me. When I showed others even they asked me how the hell I knew about the place. The owner says that he does not like to deal with locals but rather with tourists, since he has less problems with them. He finds it better not to advertise. He actually give a better exchange rate than the banks.

Thanks all for the multiple money exchange options.

Boriman. I wish you could draw a map. Going through 3 gates, ringing bells, and so forth. Will Baileys be on my right, as to walking away from the NG street, or will it be on my left? Sounds like a fun scavenger hurt; I'm in!

One great thing about the Sosua thread, you can always get answers to your questions.

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;1185056]Guy got beaten by cops, as he refuses to cooperate?[/QUOTE]That dude was drunk and acting like a fool (seems he might be Dominican) , the cops were nice to him.

Hello, All,

Looking to plan a trip the week after Christmas. How is it during that week? Does everyone stay home like the rest of DR? Slim pickings?

Lex

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1184659]The exchange rate last month in Sosua was $RD38 to buy Pesos and $38.50 to sell them. I would have been a little suspicious if he accepted $3650 for $USD100. Are you sure this was this year?[/QUOTE]Yes I'm sure.

I will be in Sosua for Fri-Sun, Sep 16th-19th. Staying at the Coco Hotel. What are the must see bars? It is the off-season, what can I expect in terms of quantity? I know it is like asking what is the cost to build a home, it depends. But what can I expect to pay for a good time? Any info will be helpful.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1185296]Thanks all for the multiple money exchange options.

Boriman. I wish you could draw a map. Going through 3 gates, ringing bells, and so forth. Will Baileys be on my right, as to walking away from the NG street, or will it be on my left? Sounds like a fun scavenger hurt; I'm in!

One great thing about the Sosua thread, you can always get answers to your questions.[/QUOTE]When you exit New Garden you make a right. Go to the corner (Where the Bon Ice Cream place is). Make a left and as you cross the street you will be heading towards Clisante. Baileys should be to your right. Walk on the side of Baileys and as you continue you will have the bank to your right. Continue walking and you will reach a gated area. Make a right and the rest is as I described.
If Omar is still working at the New Garden he can also tell you how to get there. If your still in doubt you can even ask Omar to get you the guy's business card, which the guy easily hands out to his customers. My apologies for all the confusing directions but I got the impression that the money exchange guy preferred it to be this way.

I heard of an excellent exchange in Cabarete. There is a bank in the area. Do not enter the bank but walk around and behind it. There is an exchange there. It has some of the best rates I've ever heard. I've never been to this place but a person I work with usually travels to DR for business and mentioned it to me. If you are interested I'll ask him for exact directions.

Another monger had mentioned to me of an excellent exchange in Charamicos (for the adventurous). I asked him to give me directions but he did not know so I do not know if this information is reliable.

[QUOTE=SanLuisMex;1185449]I will be in Sosua for Fri-Sun, Sep 16th-19th. Staying at the Coco Hotel. What are the must see bars? It is the off-season, what can I expect in terms of quantity? I know it is like asking what is the cost to build a home, it depends. But what can I expect to pay for a good time? Any info will be helpful.[/QUOTE]I reckon your average monger spends around US$150 a day (plus hotel and flight). Some guys can have a good time for US$100 but this is difficult to achieve on a short stay like yours. Many others spend US$200 or more a day. Biggest difference is the amount you drink and what you drink. A sensible amount of local drinks (rum or beer) won't impact your budget much, gallons of Hennessey and Grey Goose will. The other main factor is how much you spend on chicas and how often. If you have one short-time in the [email]day@1000[/email] Pesos and one [email]TLN@2000[/email] Pesos you are within the US100 a day range. If you start taking chicas out of Passions or paying 3000 for pick-ups in Clasico then you are in the US$200 a day bracket.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1185470]Another monger had mentioned to me of an excellent exchange in Charamicos (for the adventurous). I asked him to give me directions but he did not know so I do not know if this information is reliable.[/QUOTE]Just walk through the beach past Black Box up the stairs and up to the top of the hill on the right. Best exchange rates I have seen.

I just got in town in Sosua, spending the night at Rocky's in one of the condos.

Will be in town for a month or so, I am traveling solo so any of you regulars.

In the area hit me up. I have a orange enabled cell phone I can pm you.

The number.

Thanks a lot for all the info, first time in Sosua looking forward to some adventure!

Later

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1185578]I reckon your average monger spends around US$150 a day (plus hotel and flight). Some guys can have a good time for US$100 but this is difficult to achieve on a short stay like yours. Many others spend US$200 or more a day. Biggest difference is the amount you drink and what you drink. A sensible amount of local drinks (rum or beer) won't impact your budget much, gallons of Hennessey and Grey Goose will. The other main factor is how much you spend on chicas and how often. If you have one short-time in the [email]day@1000[/email] Pesos and one [email]TLN@2000[/email] Pesos you are within the US100 a day range. If you start taking chicas out of Passions or paying 3000 for pick-ups in Clasico then you are in the US$200 a day bracket.[/QUOTE]Or you could take the long stay economy plan. This is not counting room rental.

4000 pesos per week for food and water.

5000 pesors per week for sex 4 or 5 times.

Total 9000 pesos per week, which is about $250 per week. However, if you wanted to be really frugal, you could go quite a bit lower.

I calculated the food budget as 150 per day for full breakfast. 250 per day for a takeout meal or pizza, and an additional 200 pesos per day for groceries and sundries, so you could make your own sandwiches or snacks for lunches.

I then deducted 200 pesos for Sundays to come to 4000 pesos per week.

To this you would have to add the cost of any alcoholic drinks. A cold beer is 40 pesos and a bottle of drinkable Chilean red wine is 125 pesos, so you could have a daily bottle of wine for an extra 875 pesos per week.

Other possible expenses. Viagra tablets available at Latino's Minimarket for 100 pesos for 4 tablets of 100 mgs. Condoms, pack of 3 for 75 pesos.

So total weekly budget with food, sex, wine, condoms, generic Viagra would be 10, 000 pesos per week or about $270.

As I said you could go a bit lower, but on the other hand you could go much higher, especially if you are going out and spending money at bars and restaurants, buying drinks for other people, renting chairs at the beach, exceeding the sex limit, using motoconchos and taxis, taking chicas out of prepaid brothels such as La Passion, and indulging in other luxuries.

Hope this gives some idea.

I have been going to Sosua for over ten years. I was in the area with my family two weeks ago and escaped to Sosua for a few hours and was shocked to see the Shark Bar gone. The store next to it says it closed like 3 months ago. Does anyone have a contact email for Lou as I would like to say Hello, as I have known him for many years. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Thelmas Gone;1186098]I have been going to Sosua for over ten years. I was in the area with my family two weeks ago and escaped to Sosua for a few hours and was shocked to see the Shark Bar gone. The store next to it says it closed like 3 months ago. Does anyone have a contact email for Lou as I would like to say Hello, as I have known him for many years. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Lou is back in Sosua I heard, not sure what the story is with the bar.

He is really not a computer person.

Sure I'll see plenty of "make it rain" NYC clowns like this making rap vids, LOL.

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="[url]http://www.youtube.com/embed/b8lMGFy3Fc4[/url]" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen </iframe

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1186403]Sure I'll see plenty of "make it rain" NYC clowns like this making rap vids, LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually was not all that bad. Got a little boring a after a while but sure made me miss the chicas from Passions. At least two months before I can return hope you have a good trip.

[QUOTE=Ave White Boy; 1185651]I just got in town in Sosua, spending the night at Rocky's in one of the condos.

Will be in town for a month or so, I am traveling solo so any of you regulars.

In the area hit me up. I have a orange enabled cell phone I can pm you.

The number.

Thanks a lot for all the info, first time in Sosua looking forward to some adventure!

Later[/QUOTE]Hey my brother, my name is Deepmmpactt aka El Caballo Negro,

Youll probally still be in sosua, come to new gardens, asked the girls sitting around.

To point you to El Caballo Negros room, we can party our ass off! I'm African.

American 6ft3 295lbs, dark skinned brother, I wear glasses, and short hair. Get at me.

I arrive Fri Sept 8th, thru 14th. Lets party.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker;1186454]Actually was not all that bad. Got a little boring a after a while but sure made me miss the chicas from Passions. At least two months before I can return hope you have a good trip.[/QUOTE]Did you see any of these chicas still there? [url]http://www.youtube.com/embed/b8lMGFy3Fc4[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1186403]Sure I'll see plenty of "make it rain" NYC clowns like this making rap vids, LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Orgasmico;1180588]I'm flying an international airline and not a piece of you-know-what USA airline. and they serve a hot meal (unlike USA airlines).[/QUOTE]White European dudes making music videos with chicas in bikinis more acceptable to you? David Guetta (Pierre David Guetta). Sexy Chick: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9hazmsUxrM&feature=relmfu[/url]

You should be happy with the make it rain crowd in Sosua, the DR pro chicas under the "rain" are getting free, easy money and afterwards they might be inclined to give you a discount. Nothing wrong with sharing the wealth.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1186539]Did you see any of these chicas still there?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/embed/b8lMGFy3Fc4[/url][/QUOTE]For every five chicas that get married to a pendejo or fired each week, Mariella recruits five new ones from her barrio. No need to fall in love with any one of them in particuliar, chances are they will be replaced with a copy by the time you land in paradise.

PS: That video is over two years old, as it is pre-renovation, I would say NONE of these girls are still in Peter's harem!

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1186560]For every five chicas that get married to a pendejo or fired each week, Mariella recruits five new ones from her barrio. No need to fall in love with any one of them in particuliar, chances are they will be replaced with a copy by the time you land in paradise.

PS: That video is over two years old, as it is pre-renovation, I would say NONE of these girls are still in Peter's harem![/QUOTE]Yeah, I know. I stopped through there not long ago. I see girls working at places like New Garden that used to work at Pasions even before this vid so yeah the girls eventually move on to other venues or they hook up with a gringo to finance them. You're right about the replacements. Personally, I liked Pasions much more when it was a little corner spot, but that's probably just me. I had a session in there about 4 years ago just to see what it was like. I like to go in and look at the talent and have a drink now, and I know its there as a last resort for me, but I can usually find what I like and how I like it in other locations. It was just amusing to me that this dude "singing" about so many girls was in Pasions, LOL.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1185633]Just walk through the beach past Black Box up the stairs and up to the top of the hill on the right. Best exchange rates I have seen.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I don't understand if to change money (eruro or US$) is more advantageous by ATM or by a "Casa de cambio".

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1186772]I'm sorry but I don't understand if to change money (eruro or US$) is more advantageous by ATM or by a "Casa de cambio".[/QUOTE]I think it would better to change by cash if you can do so. Atm, you get less money and also you have to pay ATM fees. I for one don't use the ATM's if I don't have to. Alot of members on this forum will have there own veiws of this, this is just my veiw.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1186772]I'm sorry but I don't understand if to change money (eruro or US$) is more advantageous by ATM or by a "Casa de cambio".[/QUOTE]If you already have money you wouldn't need to use an ATM. If you do not have money you need to use an ATM (cajero automático) or other methods. I personally do not like to travel with a lot of cash so I use the many ATM's in the DR to get the money I need. There are many ATM's in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker;1186838]If you already have money you wouldn't need to use an ATM. If you do not have money you need to use an ATM (cajero automático) or other methods. I personally do not like to travel with a lot of cash so I use the many ATM's in the DR to get the money I need. There are many ATM's in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I think you don't understand my bad english. I mean what is more favourable the change. Is it better by ATM or by Casa de cambio?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1186841]I think you don't understand my bad english. I mean what is more favourable the change. Is it better by ATM or by Casa de cambio?[/QUOTE]When I was there in May I got anywhere from 36. 5 to 37. 5 DOP / USD so the exchange rate is not too bad although some cambio's where offering almost 38 DOP. With an ATM you will pay 112 pesos (about $3) to the banks to use their ATM and you might also have to pay ATM fees to your bank. Almost every ATM transaction had a different rate of exchange and the only way to know was to look at your bank statement and do the math since there is not indication from the ATM what the rate might be. My ATM card is from a Credit Union that does not charge me to use other ATM's so I only pay the 112 peso charge. This is covered elsewhere on this board and there is a differing of opinion on whether to bring money with you or use an ATM after you arrive. I typically bring enough for my room (s) and pull the rest from an account designated just for travel. If you use an ATM you would want to pull at least 10, 000 DOP at a time to offset the charge by the bank. Some people on this board recommend you go inside the bank for safety purposes.

As far as exchanging money US- DOP there are may options available. The recommendation is to make sure you count the money you receive and check to make sure the money is real and not counterfeit.

I would say the most "favorable" rate would be to exchange money for DOP rather than use an ATM since with an ATM you never really know want the exchange rate will be until the transaction has been completed.

Hope this helps.

Saw this add on Backpage.

What girl wouldn't like to live the life of a supermodelo en la casa de lujo.

18-35yrs de edad con identificacióand, hablar Inglés, deber ser capaz de vivir en la casa de lujo. 5 theías en vivo en. 2 theías de descanso. Gran Opportunidad para conocer why hablar con Americanos solitario. Debe ser amigable why sexy. Vivir como una supermodelo!

Vive en una casa de lujo en Sosua con servicio de mucama. Libre habitacion why alimentos además de gran sueldo cada semana!

Los estudiantes aceptados.

Debe audicióand por 3 dias para ser aceptados.

Correo electrónico dos fotos: 1 de la cabeza. 1 del cuerpo envia a [email]hotcamstudios@yahoo.com[/email] Por favor incluya su teléfono celular.

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Education: not required.

Status: Full-time.

Shift: Days, Nights and Weekends.

• Location: Sosua, DR

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1186848]Saw this add on Backpage.

What girl wouldn't like to live the life of a supermodelo en la casa de lujo.

18-35yrs de edad con identificacióand, hablar Inglés, deber ser capaz de vivir en la casa de lujo. 5 theías en vivo en. 2 theías de descanso. Gran Opportunidad para conocer why hablar con Americanos solitario. Debe ser amigable why sexy. Vivir como una supermodelo!

Vive en una casa de lujo en Sosua con servicio de mucama. Libre habitacion why alimentos además de gran sueldo cada semana!

Los estudiantes aceptados.

Debe audicióand por 3 dias para ser aceptados.

Correo electrónico dos fotos: 1 de la cabeza. 1 del cuerpo envia a [email]hotcamstudios@yahoo.com[/email] Por favor incluya su teléfono celular.

Salary / Wage: Gran Sueldo cada semana why libre habitacion why los alimentos.

Education: not required.

Status: Full-time.

Shift: Days, Nights and Weekends.

• Location: Sosua, DR[/QUOTE]There are some DR chicas (some doing lesbian shows) and DR couples on streamate. Lots of colombianas on streamate and live jasmine (pay webcam sites).

Initially I thought I picked the wrong time of year to go; I was dead wrong. It is the low season, but also low season for the other mongers as well, thus, less mongers, so it was a buyer's market. This was my forth trip within a year, and it was also one of my best. One thing I noticed this trip was that the girls did not come out to play until 10 or 11. It was funny, it seemed the girls were playing "Hide and Seek" during the day, because there was limited street action. But when the police yelled,"Olly Olly Oxen Free" later in the evening; the ladies came out in full force!

Hotel:

Stayed at the New Garden for the fourth time. Jenny got my reservation straight and gave me a nice hug as well. There was action off and on throughout the day and early evening. I latched on to this cutie with a great smile and attitude. She helped me fulfill my afternoon needs. After I introduced her to my friends, Mr. Bubble and Mr. Jets, she soon became a "Jacuzzi Master." I kid you not, she would be sucking me off and at the same time, she would maneuver her cute little ass towards Mr. Jets. I started charging her 20 pesos each time she leched.

On one afternoon, I think it was Thursday, I was sitting around the NG with Coolie High and his entourage having some adult beverages, and there must have been 11-12 women coming in the NG and hanging out. This including the Santiago sisters, which I thought was just a myth. I thought they looked good, but make-up does wonders I guess. There were a lot of new faces at the NG, but some old and worn as well.

The Beach:

Herman's place was closed throughout my stay. But I did get a chance to meet up with him a couple of times to discuss the going ons in Sosua. I did make to the beach on Sunday and Monday, which was a holiday, to check out the action, if there was any. On Sunday, there was some action, but it was slim pickens to say the least. The beach was packed, but mostly with families. And seeing how I didn't want a family, I didn't stay very long.

Bars & Clubs:

CMP: I started out there because it was the first one walking that direction and I always had good luck there. It was my first night and I was ready for some action. I sat at the bar and watched the girls parade pass me, smiling, and touching me nicely. This place has a few more hotties than I saw my last couple of trips. But I was just shopping and enjoying the "buyers market." Then around the corner came the "Fireball!" Bright red hair, not the finest body in the place, but her attitude and passion made up for that quickly. I've never seen a lady dance so hard, and without spilling a drop of her presidente; she was stunning, playful, and full of passion. She was providing a lap dance while I was sitting at the bar and I damn near lost my load. At one point, I'm looking around for a paramedic just in case of heart failure. After a great time in the room, we discussed her night off activities; date time! One thing I don't like about CMP, it is hot as hell in that place. Sit under a fan is the best advice I can give on that; I did.

La Passion: Stopped in there a few times and the talent was up as well. Plus there is more of a selection than CMP. I just don't like that corral setting. You know, the girls are in a corral of sorts, and the customers are on the outside looking in; very little interaction for my taste. But don't get me wrong, La Passion had the finest fillies in Sosua this trip.

Banana Club: It appeared that someone had a nice thought putting this place together, but did not follow through on the talent. Plus. 250 pesos for a fucking screwdriver? It wasn't a complete waste of time because I wanted to check the place out, but I never returned.

El Flow & Rumba: Both of these places had a good share of women available, but unlike the last trip when the girls were out in the late afternoon, they did not come out until later in the evening.

Merengue: Nowhere near the action by 9 or 10 as in the last trip. I walked through there a few times around 10, and the place seem dead.

Classico: Never made it in the place.

Latino: Still my favorite late night spot. Was in there every night from 12 to whenever. The night club focuses on Latino music, vice the American stuff at Classico; which I appreciate. I did not travel from the west coast to listen to otherwise. I also really like the staff. We have the "I take care of you, and you watch out for my dumb ass" agreement. Miguel, Clarixa, and Angel seem to know all the girls in the place. I could point to any one of the girls, and quickly receive a thumbs up or down from the team. Manny is no longer there, but at the After One club instead.

After One Club: When Classico and Latino close, the crowd pours into this club. I never got to the After One club until after three. I like this place, it is a good size with decent music to boot. I only hit this place a couple of times because I'm old and need my rest.

Sambuca Sucks!

Coolie High, his entourage, and I decided we were hungry while we were drinking at the NG. We walk down to Di Colores for some food. I always had good food in that place and it has reasonable prices to boot. Coolie asked me if I wanted to do a shot. Asking a sailor if he wants to do a shot is like asking a Chica if she wants 3000 pesos for ST; hell yeah! The place has no tequila, but did have vodka; bring it on. Turns out that the staff are confused because it wasn't vodka, but fucking sambuca!

It wasn't more than 10 minutes later when Coolie and I invented this new game,"You make the call." About four or five shots later, my world was spinning faster than normal. Went back to the NG, grabbed the NG Girl and my plan was to have jacuzzi and rack operations. I still don't what the girl and I did that afternoon; it remains a mystery.

Lesson learned?

I called Coolie High the next afternoon to see if he had an agenda for the day. Coolie said that he was presently at Di Colores having lunch and for me to come by; no problem. I leave the NG Girl in the room and head over. Now you would figure that one of us, at least one of us, would have learned a lesson from the day before. The server asked me if I wanted a drink, and I hear this from across the table,"You make the call." Oh hell no! But wait, I'm a sailor; let's do it! We both had the same lame excuse,"We're on vacation!" Nope, didn't learn that lesson!

Sometimes you are tired, but when opportunity knocks; got to take it!

After a sambuca nap, I called Little Dancer and later she met me at the NG. I spend time with Little Dancer every trip because she's so damn cute and one heck of a dancer. After some jacuzzi and rack operations, we head to her favorite restaurant; Morua Mia. After dinner and a few drinks, I didn't feel like doing much of anything. It was around 10:30 and I was still feeling the "sambuca aftermath." I sent her off and headed back to the NG. Rafael still had the bar open, so I sat down and chatted for a bit. This pretty dark skinned lady walked in and sat down. Big titties and nice size ass to match. I looked at Rafael and he looked at me and gave me the big "thumbs up" sign. After some slight negotiations, off to the room for more and rack operations; life is good!

Patience is essential, something will happen!

I'm was in Latino Saturday night and sitting next to Clarixa at the bar. It was about 2:00 and more and more local men were pouring in and I was about to give up and throw in the towel on Latino. This dark skin beauty stepped in front of me to get some napkins, because apparently there is no toilet paper in the ladies room. I tapped her on the shoulder and said Hello. I got a great smile in returned and she told me she would return soon; which she did. Ana was beautiful and a really sweet girl. I got the thumbs up from Miguel, Clarixa, and Angel within a matter of minutes. We closed Latino and then she introduced me to the After One club. Did not get back to my room until 6:00, asleep at 8:00. I felt it the next day for sure. Was it worth it; absolutely!

Sometimes many things happen at the same damn time!

I had a date for 8:00 with Fireball and was sitting at the NG bar drinking with NG Girl and chatting with Rafael about the night before. I wanted to take Fireball to my favorite restaurant; Waterfront. Well 8:45 rolls around and I'm hungry, so I told Rafael to call me if Fireball shows up. He asked,"How will I know her if she comes?" I told him not to worry, he would. So the NG Girl has been such a champ the last few days, I said what the hell and took her to Waterfront instead; which she really enjoyed.

After dinner, we head back to the room for jacuzzi operations. It was about 11:00 and no sooner than I got off in the jacuzzi, I get two calls within a minute apart. The first call is from Coolie High and he lets me know that he's heading for Bailey's restaurant and advises that I should join him for his last night blow out celebration; I agreed. The second call is from Fireball and she informs me that she is on her way. Jesus tap dancing Christ! Now what?

I call Coolie back to tell him to give me some time because I have issues to deal with, such as kicking NG Girl out the door and waiting for Fireball. NG Girl wants to stay in the room and watch TV, which she has done a couple of times in the past; but not this time for sure. I send her out, clean up a bit, and flew down to the NG gate. Fireball arrives and we head off to Bailey's. Met up with Coolie and friends and discussed the evening plans. We decided to go my route; Latino.

We weren't in Latino ten minutes before I hear,"You make the call." That was one hell of a "Here we go!" moment. But at least there, we can say fuck the sambuca, and decided to go the tequila and kamikazi direction. I was with Fireball, my new friend playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world; Miguel. I had a "Life is great" moment! But then walks in Ana, the girl from the night before. Then I had a "Holy shit, I'm fucked" moment! As luck would have it for me this trip, it turns out that Ana and Fireball were childhood chums and are happy as hell to see each other! Ana never said a word about us.

Going out with a bang and final thoughts forthcoming.

The Coolie High trip report is in the Mr Gogo section, all are welcome.

Great report Tomjackin.

Thanks Tomjackin, looks like you made the right call!

After a great night with Fireball and Ana, my new friend, Coolie, playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world, Miguel, I only had one more day and night in Sosua. I could have relaxed and chilled out for the day. But then again, I could chill out on the plane just as well.

The morning started out great. I woke up next to Fireball. Both of us were buck naked, but neither of us had a clue what happened. Leaving the club, how we got there, what happened in the room; NADA. But I did take some pictures so I have an idea of some of the activities. Plus the jacuzzi was topped off, so I guess we were in there as well. Either way, we both laughed about it and then she got serious and said my three favorite words,"Fuck me Papi." What's a man to do? We played, slept some more, then played some more. She said she had to be at work at 2:00, it was almost 3:00. I promised her I would come say goodbye to her tonight, and I do keep my promises.

I hit the beach for a couple of hours. My understanding was that Monday was a holiday, but not too many people were on the beach, including available Chicas; but I tried anyhow. Later on in the early evening I met up with Herman outside some store near Passion. There were tables and chairs set up outside the store so folks can drink a brew while watching the happenings in the street and people passing by. The store really only had beer so I figured Herman and I would talk for awhile, so I bought a bottle of Absolute and a half gallon of orange juice.

Herman explained that business was extremely bad and that's why he closed his beach bar for a couple of weeks. He also said there were many reports of mongers having problems with the girls in the clubs because it was a buyer's market and some of the girls were desperate for money. However, I did not have a single problem during my stay. Every girl that passed us seemed to know Herman. At one point, this pretty dark skinned beauty stopped by to say Hello, to Herman. He introduced me to her, don't remember her name. She said she was hungry and asked Herman for 40 pesos. He said no, but I said yes. I gave her 100 pesos and off she went. But she came back with the change, sat next to me, and ate her food; I liked her.

It was still early evening and time was on my side, my age no, but time was. I had one of those "If you don't play with this young dark sweetie, you might regret it for the rest of your life" moments. She agreed to 700 pesos for ST and after saying goodbye and thanking Herman, off we went. In the room, she was a bit inexperienced; but I expected that. She danced for me, I was able to take videos and pictures, and we both enjoyed each other's company. A real bargain indeed.

I promised one of the servers at Morua Mia that I would stop by for a dinner before I left. That place is hurting, but not as bad as La Roca (across the street) , which closed down. As soon as I ordered my drink, I got a call from Little Dancer. It was like somehow she knew I was in her favorite restaurant. I thought she was home in Puerto Plata, but she was in Sosua. I told her where I was and she jumped at the chance to come by and join me. Within 3 minutes, she was there. After dinner she planned to meet her girlfriend at Classico, which was fine because I had other things to do. I gave her some pesos, said goodbye, and sent her off on her way.

Stopped in CMP and drank a bit with Fireball. She danced up a storm for me while I watched; I was once again amazed with her dancing skills. The manager let me take all the photos and videos that I wanted; so I did. We got really close to each other in a short time, but I learned over time, she is not my girlfriend, it's only my turn; so be it.

Headed to Latino. There was a tall, beautiful lady with a good size ass that I've been watching throughout my times in Latino, and she was there again that night. The place was not that crowded so we were able to maintain continuous eye contact. I walked over to her and asked her if she wanted a beer; she accepted. I asked Miguel and Clarixa for a thumbs up or down signal, but they were not sure about her. Personally, I thought she was buck wild and a real hoot!

Within about 30 minutes, Ana walking in, came over, and put a lip lock on me. The other girl did not respond. It seems like they knew each other as well; go figure. So we all partied together throughout the night. When Latino closed, we all headed to After One, and Miguel joined us as well. Ana and I left After One at about 5:00. The other girl wanted to do a happy hour with the both of us, but I was drained and decided to end my trip just with Ana.

Final thoughts:

Sosua is far from dead, but it is more for the late night crowd. I don't mind the late nights because I'm not much of a morning person. Sosua is still one of my favorite places in the world to travel to; Pattaya being the first. The place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin Chicas as I do. Don't give in to the bullshit reports, go there, the town needs your business. Don't let Sosua die! As of this past week, Sosua is still alive and kicking ass!

Are these the girls? If so they are fantastic providers and one of them goes both ways

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1188399]After a great night with Fireball and Ana, my new friend, Coolie, playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world, Miguel, I only had one more day and night in Sosua. I could have relaxed and chilled out for the day. But then again, I could chill out on the plane just as well.

The morning started out great. I woke up next to Fireball. Both of us were buck naked, but neither of us had a clue what happened. Leaving the club, how we got there, what happened in the room; NADA. But I did take some pictures so I have an idea of some of the activities. Plus the jacuzzi was topped off, so I guess we were in there as well. Either way, we both laughed about it and then she got serious and said my three favorite words,"Fuck me Papi." What's a man to do? We played, slept some more, then played some more. She said she had to be at work at 2:00, it was almost 3:00. I promised her I would come say goodbye to her tonight, and I do keep my promises.

I hit the beach for a couple of hours. My understanding was that Monday was a holiday, but not too many people were on the beach, including available Chicas; but I tried anyhow. Later on in the early evening I met up with Herman outside some store near Passion. There were tables and chairs set up outside the store so folks can drink a brew while watching the happenings in the street and people passing by. The store really only had beer so I figured Herman and I would talk for awhile, so I bought a bottle of Absolute and a half gallon of orange juice.

Herman explained that business was extremely bad and that's why he closed his beach bar for a couple of weeks. He also said there were many reports of mongers having problems with the girls in the clubs because it was a buyer's market and some of the girls were desperate for money. However, I did not have a single problem during my stay. Every girl that passed us seemed to know Herman. At one point, this pretty dark skinned beauty stopped by to say Hello, to Herman. He introduced me to her, don't remember her name. She said she was hungry and asked Herman for 40 pesos. He said no, but I said yes. I gave her 100 pesos and off she went. But she came back with the change, sat next to me, and ate her food; I liked her.

It was still early evening and time was on my side, my age no, but time was. I had one of those "If you don't play with this young dark sweetie, you might regret it for the rest of your life" moments. She agreed to 700 pesos for ST and after saying goodbye and thanking Herman, off we went. In the room, she was a bit inexperienced; but I expected that. She danced for me, I was able to take videos and pictures, and we both enjoyed each other's company. A real bargain indeed.

I promised one of the servers at Morua Mia that I would stop by for a dinner before I left. That place is hurting, but not as bad as La Roca (across the street) , which closed down. As soon as I ordered my drink, I got a call from Little Dancer. It was like somehow she knew I was in her favorite restaurant. I thought she was home in Puerto Plata, but she was in Sosua. I told her where I was and she jumped at the chance to come by and join me. Within 3 minutes, she was there. After dinner she planned to meet her girlfriend at Classico, which was fine because I had other things to do. I gave her some pesos, said goodbye, and sent her off on her way.

Stopped in CMP and drank a bit with Fireball. She danced up a storm for me while I watched; I was once again amazed with her dancing skills. The manager let me take all the photos and videos that I wanted; so I did. We got really close to each other in a short time, but I learned over time, she is not my girlfriend, it's only my turn; so be it.

Headed to Latino. There was a tall, beautiful lady with a good size ass that I've been watching throughout my times in Latino, and she was there again that night. The place was not that crowded so we were able to maintain continuous eye contact. I walked over to her and asked her if she wanted a beer; she accepted. I asked Miguel and Clarixa for a thumbs up or down signal, but they were not sure about her. Personally, I thought she was buck wild and a real hoot!

Within about 30 minutes, Ana walking in, came over, and put a lip lock on me. The other girl did not respond. It seems like they knew each other as well; go figure. So we all partied together throughout the night. When Latino closed, we all headed to After One, and Miguel joined us as well. Ana and I left After One at about 5:00. The other girl wanted to do a happy hour with the both of us, but I was drained and decided to end my trip just with Ana.

Final thoughts:

Sosua is far from dead, but it is more for the late night crowd. I don't mind the late nights because I'm not much of a morning person. Sosua is still one of my favorite places in the world to travel to; Pattaya being the first. The place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin Chicas as I do. Don't give in to the bullshit reports, go there, the town needs your business. Don't let Sosua die! As of this past week, Sosua is still alive and kicking ass![/QUOTE]As always, thanks for taking the time to drop back by the board after your trip and hitting us with a trip report Tomjackin. We appreciate the consistency!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1188399]After a great night with Fireball and Ana, my new friend, Coolie, playing "You make the call," and with my favorite bartender in the world, Miguel, I only had one more day and night in Sosua. I could have relaxed and chilled out for the day. But then again, I could chill out on the plane just as well.

The morning started out great. I woke up next to Fireball. Both of us were buck naked, but neither of us had a clue what happened. Leaving the club, how we got there, what happened in the room; NADA. But I did take some pictures so I have an idea of some of the activities. Plus the jacuzzi was topped off, so I guess we were in there as well. Either way, we both laughed about it and then she got serious and said my three favorite words,"Fuck me Papi." What's a man to do? We played, slept some more, then played some more. She said she had to be at work at 2:00, it was almost 3:00. I promised her I would come say goodbye to her tonight, and I do keep my promises.

I hit the beach for a couple of hours. My understanding was that Monday was a holiday, but not too many people were on the beach, including available Chicas; but I tried anyhow. Later on in the early evening I met up with Herman outside some store near Passion. There were tables and chairs set up outside the store so folks can drink a brew while watching the happenings in the street and people passing by. The store really only had beer so I figured Herman and I would talk for awhile, so I bought a bottle of Absolute and a half gallon of orange juice.

Herman explained that business was extremely bad and that's why he closed his beach bar for a couple of weeks. He also said there were many reports of mongers having problems with the girls in the clubs because it was a buyer's market and some of the girls were desperate for money. However, I did not have a single problem during my stay. Every girl that passed us seemed to know Herman. At one point, this pretty dark skinned beauty stopped by to say Hello, to Herman. He introduced me to her, don't remember her name. She said she was hungry and asked Herman for 40 pesos. He said no, but I said yes. I gave her 100 pesos and off she went. But she came back with the change, sat next to me, and ate her food; I liked her.

It was still early evening and time was on my side, my age no, but time was. I had one of those "If you don't play with this young dark sweetie, you might regret it for the rest of your life" moments. She agreed to 700 pesos for ST and after saying goodbye and thanking Herman, off we went. In the room, she was a bit inexperienced; but I expected that. She danced for me, I was able to take videos and pictures, and we both enjoyed each other's company. A real bargain indeed.

I promised one of the servers at Morua Mia that I would stop by for a dinner before I left. That place is hurting, but not as bad as La Roca (across the street) , which closed down. As soon as I ordered my drink, I got a call from Little Dancer. It was like somehow she knew I was in her favorite restaurant. I thought she was home in Puerto Plata, but she was in Sosua. I told her where I was and she jumped at the chance to come by and join me. Within 3 minutes, she was there. After dinner she planned to meet her girlfriend at Classico, which was fine because I had other things to do. I gave her some pesos, said goodbye, and sent her off on her way.

Stopped in CMP and drank a bit with Fireball. She danced up a storm for me while I watched; I was once again amazed with her dancing skills. The manager let me take all the photos and videos that I wanted; so I did. We got really close to each other in a short time, but I learned over time, she is not my girlfriend, it's only my turn; so be it.

Headed to Latino. There was a tall, beautiful lady with a good size ass that I've been watching throughout my times in Latino, and she was there again that night. The place was not that crowded so we were able to maintain continuous eye contact. I walked over to her and asked her if she wanted a beer; she accepted. I asked Miguel and Clarixa for a thumbs up or down signal, but they were not sure about her. Personally, I thought she was buck wild and a real hoot!

Within about 30 minutes, Ana walking in, came over, and put a lip lock on me. The other girl did not respond. It seems like they knew each other as well; go figure. So we all partied together throughout the night. When Latino closed, we all headed to After One, and Miguel joined us as well. Ana and I left After One at about 5:00. The other girl wanted to do a happy hour with the both of us, but I was drained and decided to end my trip just with Ana.

Final thoughts:

Sosua is far from dead, but it is more for the late night crowd. I don't mind the late nights because I'm not much of a morning person. Sosua is still one of my favorite places in the world to travel to; Pattaya being the first. The place is still a bargain and the women are very fun to play with, especially if you adore the dark skin Chicas as I do. Don't give in to the bullshit reports, go there, the town needs your business. Don't let Sosua die! As of this past week, Sosua is still alive and kicking ass![/QUOTE]Hold up! Wait a damn minute! You mean to tell me you found time to play with a new bunny but couldn't find time to 'make the call' to that fresh 18yr old honey dip that was serving us sambuca LOL! Man one of us should have gotten on that one. She was fresh from the country too. Its all good though cus we still had a great time down there. Good reports my friend. Can't wait for us to hookup and get fucked up again LOL

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1188410]Are these the girls? If so they are fantastic providers and one of them goes both ways[/QUOTE]The one in red is an original "Santiago sister", the one on the right is just a friend. The Santiago sisters have more mileage than a Sosua / Puerto Plata publico, these girls have been sucking dick in The New Garden since it was The Garden Keti, that is almost ten years, NO THANK YOU, there is much fresher catch in the pond.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie;1188410]Are these the girls? If so they are fantastic providers and one of them goes both ways[/QUOTE]Muchas gracias!

The girls in the picture are twins so how can one just be a friend? Also their like 20 years old I remember their cedula so how can they've been sucking for almost ten years?

I have many pictures of they and another girl I had a foursome with. Very sexy graphic stuff

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1188648]The one in red is an original "Santiago sister", the one on the right is just a friend. The Santiago sisters have more mileage than a Sosua / Puerto Plata publico, these girls have been sucking dick in The New Garden since it was The Garden Keti, that is almost ten years, NO THANK YOU, there is much fresher catch in the pond.[/QUOTE]This means she has had plenty of practice and should warrant no complaints.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1188705]The girls in the picture are twins so how can one just be a friend? Also their like 20 years old I remember their cedula so how can they've been sucking for almost ten years?

I have many pictures of they and another girl I had a foursome with. Very sexy graphic stuff[/QUOTE]LOL Jfregedie, Buscemi ain't lying to you bro. These chicas are not sisters and have been around a very loong time. I had the one in the red back in March '09 just to put things in perspective. She was hanging around the pool at NG the same afternoon I checked in. This was my very first time staying in Sosua and I have seen these two on the prowl there on every trip every since then.

Just do a forum search of the "Santiago Sisters" and you will find out that dudes have been talking about these two way before I even discovered mongering back in '07!

20yrs old my ass. That's probably the same cedula they've been using since the age of twenty, LOL!

This was the best I could get these pics of the O.G. Santiago Sister (the one in the red in your pics) at the time. Age has not been kind too her to say the least, but judging from your pics she seems to be a master at the art of "reinvention." In all fairness these photos don't do her much justice, but that's not saying much to say the least :D

For does who need a cabana in Sosua for whatever reason. I went to a new cabana discovery near Playa Chicquita Casino called Dulce Secreto. I went to this Cabana about two weeks ago because Terra Linda hotel only allows you in with one girl and I was curious about this place. It is nice, clean, and new but rooms are small. I took the Jacuzzi room but the bed could not have been more than a Queen if not smaller and it was hard to fit the two girls and myself on the bed. By the way I spend the entire night there no issues and ate the food. Food was nothing to write home about and jacuzzi is big enough at best for 2 people. In summary for convenience, clean and a safe location, I would recommend this place but if you have time to go to the Puerto Plata Cabanas, I would go. The Cabanas in PP are much nicer, larger, better. I think this is just a fact because there is competition in PP BTW the numerous cabanas versus in Sosua. Pics attached.

I paid $69 / night in cash for a king for 5 days. 2 weeks ago. Willy originally quoted me $89 / night. At $89 / night this place is not worth it but in the 60s range works for me. I enjoyed the food in the restaurant. Pretty good quality for breakfast. Typically after eating the free big breakfast I usually was not hungry for lunch. I liked the mangu. I ate there once or twice also for dinner and they had a special on steak and it was really good. So pleasantly surprised by the restaurant but really no ambiance, usually the place is pretty empty except for a couple of people here and there. Free breakfast menu pics attached.

But the rooms are not at the quality of $80 and up per night. If they ever tried to charge me that amount, I would not stay at TL. Plus, I didn't like there old *ss safe that requires the key to open. No combination, nor the AC which I couldn't figure out how to set a temperature on it, nor the small tv, nor the 1 chica friendly rule. What they worried about only like 20% of the hotel is ever occupied at any one time. Plus internet works if you are in the first building and the signal is a little weak so before leaving the for the DR, I purchased a WIFI long range repeater to boost the signal. Glad I did. Would not recommend building 2 if you need internet a lot.

IMHO In summary for $50 / night or $60 / night it is worth it. For $70 plus maybe. For $80 plus no way.

[QUOTE=Lopkx; 1188740]I paid $69 / night in cash for a king for 5 days. 2 weeks ago. Willy originally quoted me $89 / night. At $89 / night this place is not worth it but in the 60s range works for me. I enjoyed the food in the restaurant. Pretty good quality for breakfast. Typically after eating the free big breakfast I usually was not hungry for lunch. I liked the mangu. I ate there once or twice also for dinner and they had a special on steak and it was really good. So pleasantly surprised by the restaurant but really no ambiance, usually the place is pretty empty except for a couple of people here and there. Free breakfast menu pics attached.

But the rooms are not at the quality of $80 and up per night. If they ever tried to charge me that amount, I would not stay at TL. Plus, I didn't like there old *ss safe that requires the key to open. No combination, nor the AC which I couldn't figure out how to set a temperature on it, nor the small tv, nor the 1 chica friendly rule. What they worried about only like 20% of the hotel is ever occupied at any one time. Plus internet works if you are in the first building and the signal is a little weak so before leaving the for the DR, I purchased a WIFI long range repeater to boost the signal. Glad I did. Would not recommend building 2 if you need internet a lot.

IMHO In summary for $50 / night or $60 / night it is worth it. For $70 plus maybe. For $80 plus no way.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting. Looks like a nice pool at Terra Linda. Last time I was in Sosua, Terra Linda was a vacant building.

Cabana in Sosua could be good for guys staying in all inclusive hotels, or for guys staying in other towns who visit Sosua for the day or evening.

It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Here's another picture of my girls, also I've been to sosua 4 times and never saw the santiago sisters

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1188809]It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Here's another picture of my girls, also I've been to sosua 4 times and never saw the santiago sisters[/QUOTE]AVOID the one on the right, known thief!
I stand corrected, none of those girls are "Santiago Sisters", the old lady posted in blue by SavePros321 is named Yolie, and is the younger of the Santiago Sisters, she is about 30 by now!

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1188987]AVOID the one on the right, known thief!

I stand corrected, none of those girls are "Santiago Sisters", the old lady posted in blue by SavePros321 is named Yolie, and is the younger of the Santiago Sisters, she is about 30 by now![/QUOTE]The nut job chica from Santiago. I was detained by the police because of her. She tried to steal a cell phone from an apartment, where I was staying, by pushing the cell up her pussy. Eventually the police, had her pull the cell phone out of her pussy in the street. Thereafter she complained that her pussy was hurt and said it was my fault, and the incompetent Sosua police detained me. She also tried to stab me with the switch blade she carries in her purse (she got into Classicos and After One with that knife) and she also tried to stab the watchie man at the apartment building. The incompetent, useless, Dominican judge in Sosua told ME to pay her 1000 pesos, or I would be put in jail.

I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1188809]It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

[/QUOTE]Yeah, not the same chicas:

[b]AMATEUR DOMINICAN SISTERS FROM SANTIAGO[/b]

[url]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1809473956[/url]

The one with the gold streaks in her hair is the one in the photos I posted. She looks a lot better in the video, lol. I guess the camera man thought so too because she is show the most throughout the video.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1188987]I stand corrected, none of those girls are "Santiago Sisters", the old lady posted in blue by SavePros321 is named Yolie, and is the younger of the Santiago Sisters, she is about 30 by now![/QUOTE]You're telling me she is younger than the lighter-skinned one? I find that hard to believe. I always thought it was the other way around.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1189057]Yeah, not the same chicas:

[b]AMATEUR DOMINICAN SISTERS FROM SANTIAGO[/b]

[url]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1809473956[/url]

The one with the gold streaks in her hair is the one in the photos I posted. She looks a lot better in the video, LOL. I guess the camera man thought so too because she is show the most throughout the video.

You're telling me she is younger than the lighter-skinned one? I find that hard to believe. I always thought it was the other way around.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. Jaja. They are worn out, their daughters will be on the strip in a few years.

As far as age, actually streak hair is the older one, they both lie about their real age, so I am guessing.

The real names are Niurka (Streak Hair) and Yolie dark hair!

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1189125]Thanks for the link. Jaja. They are worn out, their daughters will be on the strip in a few years.

As far as age, actually streak hair is the older one, they both lie about their real age, so I am guessing.

The real names are Niurka (Streak Hair) and Yolie dark hair![/QUOTE]I did Carolina (Niurka) before she did the movie thing with Habib. Then just recently did her again in our home town north of Santiago. She is nice to look at but nothing special, dollar signs in her eyes. Then less than two weeks ago I got a glimse of her at a bus stop, turned my bike around, stopped, started making conversation only to find out it is her Sister. They look like twins but are a year apart. Met up with them later that evening in Sosua where there just weren't any guys out roaming, August you know. With their good looks a night without a trick must be something. The bars in Sosua was mobbed with cock crazed chicas. So, they offered their services and off we went to my hotel. Just OK for a 3 some. It is 330am and and my cell went off. They need a place to stay. So, this time it is TLN, and they brought a third chica from the same town we live in. Their night, all 3, went scoreless except for me. So the next morning they are up at 8am and chattering among the 3. The 3d chica jumps in bed with me and proceeds to give me a great BJ and then rode me cowgirl. Wish I had done her TLN in the first place. Gave her 1000 pesos. Off they went. What a ball draining night!

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1188809]It all comes back to me. The girls I photoed aren't the santiago sisters. Look closely my girls are much younger and much smaller. Yes they were twins. The santiago sisters I first saw on the habib show or whatever the guy is who films the Dr sex stuff. Much older and more ran down looking.

Here's another picture of my girls, also I've been to sosua 4 times and never saw the santiago sisters[/QUOTE]But not twins, a year apart. I know them well and they don't live in Santiago. See my report.

(TRIP REPORT Day 1: Haiti the 4th World and Day 2: Forcing it in Haiti in stores now. Check Mr. Gogos forum for your local listing)

Trip Report Day 3: Good to be Home.

Landed in SDQ and it's night and day from Haiti. How in the fuck is that even possible? I'm still on the same muthafuckin island. Fuck it! I picked up my luggage to the tunes of my man 50cent- the paper I get it.

Got my luggage and as soon as I leave the terminal Junior is waiting for me. Cool. We get in the car and start driving off. Now this is more like it. AC on blast, roads not fucked up and the scenery on the new highway to Sosua is beautiful. Wait a minute. Something's missing.

CH: Yo Junior I thought you were going to bring a honey dip for me.

Junior: Yeah sorry boss. She bailed at the last sec. Had to get up early for the drive up here and when I called she said she was too tired to roll.

CH: Well she just lost out on some bread.

Junior: Don't worry I got something for you as soon as we get into town.

We continue on our journey but had to stop in town to fill up. Problem was I had nothing but us dollars and no one would make change. And since it was Sunday alot of places like the bank was closed. Well this is an interesting development. We hit a couple stores but they wouldn't touch my money cus of all the bad fake us bills that's been floating around.

Finally we found a corner store that would change our money but they got me on the exchange rate. 34 to 1.

Junior: This is some bullshit. 34 to 1 is outrageous.

CH: I know. Sometimes you get the bear and sometime the bear gets you. Make the exchange and get me a presidente grande and let's be out.

Afterwards we got some gas and was back on the journey to Sosua with a presidente in my hand. Yeah now I can dig this.

On the way I made the call to Casa Linda. Now I didn't make any reservations with them so I was totally winging it. Figure worst case scenario I be staying at Terra Linda. The manager Chris picks up and I ask him does he have anything available.

Chris: Yeah I got Villa #4 that's a 2 bedroom. Only a $110 a night.

CH: Cool I can dig it.

Chris: Ok well by the time you arrive I'll be gone and since none of the other managers will be here I'll leave the keys to security and we'll square everything up Monday

CH: My man.

And just like that gents my lodging was totally taken care of for the rest of my stay. Now that's true customer service for that ass.

Haven't gotten any real decent sleep in the past 24 hours so I basically was passed out majority of the ride. Finally arrived to Casa Linda and sure enough the security was waiting for me. Got to the villa and the place was cool. Nice little cooze villa with the pool to get my smash on in.

After I settle in we head into town to settle the bill with me renting the car for a week with Cesa. Now last time I was here I rented from Cesa a local cat that has suv trucks. This ain't no Avis so there's no paper work what's so ever nor do I have to put my credit card on hold just incase of an accident but I wouldn't recommend my car rental situation either. Shit can get very bad real quick with this type of dealings but the situation can be just as bad for when you deal with an Avis type car rental place in DR. Soo pick your poison.

Met up with Cesa and settle the bill. He up-fronted gas money for Junior to pick me up and if you included the 9 days I'll be in town bill came to $440. Cool. Paid that and now my attentions is toward Junior.

Now Junior makes his money TOTALLY off tips! So that means he doesn't get a cut of that money I just gave Cesa

CH: Yo Junior! For your troubles.

Junior: Thanks boss.

I slid him $200usd dollars to start off with. Now I know for some I might've over paid Junior for his services but you got to understand what Junior does for me is basically what I do back home. I'm just dealing with high end clientele. But the hustles the same and I can appreciate good service.

So anyway we holla at the local street corner to exchange some pesos. Exchange rate was 37. 50 to 1usd. Not bad but I have a feeling I can get a better rate but this will do for now.

We head to my favorite cigar shop Valentinos. The German owner remembers me from last time and turns me on to some Don Leo's. Paid the tab and off we go!

Junior: Boss I got some one for you! She's around the corner waiting for us.

CH: She better not be some bullshit. You know your pickings of girls last time was suspect.

Junior: Cmon! I know what you like. She's a good clean girl. New to the game.

CH: We shall see.

We met up with the honey dip and ol my damn is she fine with a nice bubble butt. Let's call her Bubbly. Ooh your 24 and what's that your a Taurus as well. Ahh shit. Cmon here I want to kiss those soft lips. Yeah now that's the passion I've been searching for.

CH: Junior! VAMANOS.

We get to villa and I had to take a pic of that bubble.

Gave Junior some money to get some food cus I'ma need it after this workout. Now it's customary for ol coolie high to bless the pool. So as the suns goes down I'm straight SMASHN this honey bun. This is what I'm talking about. Her energy is flowing with me. I'm directing the love scene like I'm Steven Spielberg. Anything I want she submissively obliges. I'm starting to sweat while in the pool and she's moaning louder. All of a sudden.

Neighbor: HEY! YAW'll WAAY TO LOUD.

CH: I KNOW!

I wasn't stoping this love scene for no damn body. I'm in the System right now. So don't disturb this Groove. Afterwards junior came back and brought me some food and drinks to me. I didn't want to leave the pool so I ate my grub thers.

CH: Hey Junior what's that slogan of urs you always say to me.

Junior: THIS IS THEE LIFE!

Damn right it is! Man it feels soo good to be home. I got Ms. Bubbly that's not in any rush to leave, I got Junior that's handling shit properly and the weather is absolutely PERFECT! What more can I ask.

Thought about going out but for what? I'm totally satisfied at this point and it's only Sunday. I'll be here till the following Monday. So on that note gents I got my drink on and wounded up crushing Bubbly a few more times. GOD BLESS this place we call Sosua.

Trip Report Day 4: SWITCH. Coming Soon!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1189017]The nut job chica from Santiago. I was detained by the police because of her. She tried to steal a cell phone from an apartment, where I was staying, by pushing the cell up her pussy. Eventually the police, had her pull the cell phone out of her pussy in the street. Thereafter she complained that her pussy was hurt and said it was my fault, and the incompetent Sosua police detained me. She also tried to stab me with the switch blade she carries in her purse (she got into Classicos and After One with that knife) and she also tried to stab the watchie man at the apartment building. The incompetent, useless, Dominican judge in Sosua told ME to pay her 1000 pesos, or I would be put in jail.

I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."[/QUOTE]That's one of the craziest stories I've ever read about regarding Sosua, but you have a point. Dominicans can be fiery to begin with so when you're dealing with a street rat you really have to take precautions.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1189236]That's one of the craziest stories I've ever read about regarding Sosua, but you have a point. Dominicans can be fiery to begin with so when you're dealing with a street rat you really have to take precautions.[/QUOTE]She is mentally not there and she has at least one kid. Part of me feels bad for her, another part of me wants to clobber her in the head, for the time and money I had to waste dealing with her insanity. BTW I was in the apartment with a chica I had invited from Bonao and a wingman brought the nut job to the apartment for drinks (while in the apartment the nutjob tried to steal the cell phone of the Bonao chica, you can see the Bonao chica holding her hand in one the photos). Some Dominicans have patience to deal with craziness, the Bonao chica and the Sosua watchie-man showed patience to the crazy santiago chica. The thief chica swore that she didn't steal the cell phone and she said search me. The cell was covered with menstrual fluid when she pulled in out of her vagina, the police didn't want to touch it.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1189017]I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."[/QUOTE]I kind of felt that way about Sosua as well, until my last trip to the DR 2-weeks ago. Until this month, I hadn't spent an evening on Pedro Clisante since 2009. Nevertheless, the 3-night trip was one of the best I've ever had. Friday night in Santo Domingo followed by Saturday and Sunday night in Sosua.

I was really amazed how much the nightlife had picked-up since my last trip to Sosua. Saturday night, after about 12am the atmosphere on Pedro Clisante reminded me of Rio, outside of the old Help disco. I do agree that Sosua attracts a lot of tigueres and I was fortunate to have Sidney by my side at the Merengue Bar both evenings (giving me the dirt on the chicas); however, I would look forward to traveling to Sosua again, if I was traveling with a few very well seasoned "single travelers," like I was on this last trip.

Cheers!
Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1189276]She is mentally not there and she has at least one kid. Part of me feels bad for her, another part of me wants to clobber her in the head, for the time and money I had to waste dealing with her insanity. BTW I was in the apartment with a chica I had invited from Bonao and a wingman brought the nut job to the apartment for drinks (while in the apartment the nutjob tried to steal the cell phone of the Bonao chica, you can see the Bonao chica holding her hand in one the photos). Some Dominicans have patience to deal with craziness, the Bonao chica and the Sosua watchie-man showed patience to the crazy santiago chica. The thief chica swore that she didn't steal the cell phone and she said search me. The cell was covered with menstrual fluid when she pulled in out of her vagina, the police didn't want to touch it.[/QUOTE]How did you convince the cops that the phone was up here pussy? Don't tell me you called the number and Kanye West's "Gold Digger" started playing from her panties! LOL

What in the hell did she say to the judge that made him make a judgement against you? "Your honor, if the gringo had a smaller phone, I would not have injured myself when i attempted to steal it. I should be compensated!!"

The one on the pornhub video complains that she has stiches in her pussy and that's why she can't handle the black guy's prongus elongus.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1189352]How did you convince the cops that the phone was up here pussy? Don't tell me you called the number and Kanye West's "Gold Digger" started playing from her panties! LOL.

What in the hell did she say to the judge that made him make a judgement against you?"Your honor, if the gringo had a smaller phone, I would not have injured myself when I attempted to steal it. I should be compensated!"[/QUOTE]Those are good fucking questions. Have they no shame? Not only was something wrong with the girl, but something must have been wrong with the judge as well. And to think it was a girl who he didn't even fuck. That wingman would have had my foot so far up his ass that his breath would have smelled like shoe Polish.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1189362]Those are good fucking questions. Have they no shame? Not only was something wrong with the girl, but something must have been wrong with the judge as well. And to think it was a girl who he didn't even fuck. That wingman would have had my foot so far up his ass that his breath would have smelled like shoe Polish.[/QUOTE]I am surprised he didn't have to pay for lost wages too. Money laundering, drug smuggling, corruption is the standard for Dominicans. Go to [url]www.dominicanwatchdog.org[/url] Or look into [url]http://dominicantoday.com/[/url] Lots of interesting facts on those 2 sites.

I will be in Sosua Fri Sep 16 for 3 nights. Then a week at an AI in Puerto Plata (need the R&R, no hastle thing). I live in a Mexican border town but work in Arizona. So I negotiate for sex all the time. But for a first timer to Sosua. What is a good strategy to minimize my hastle. I mean, even here I run across the wrong girls wanting way to much all the time. I am the type that would prefer a 6 that fucks like a 10, as opposed to a 10 that fucks like a 6. Is there an out of the way bar, low-key type thing? Or should I just stick with the main ones? Or maybe any veterans going to be there that would not mind showing me around a bit.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1189230]Damn right it is! Man it feels soo good to be home. I got Ms. Bubbly that's not in any rush to leave, I got Junior that's handling shit properly and the weather is absolutely PERFECT! What more can I ask.[/QUOTE]How about Irene to veer a few hundred miles north. Be safe yall, this storm looks big

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1189442]How about Irene to veer a few hundred miles north. Be safe yall, this storm looks big[/QUOTE]CH,

I'm already back in the states as I write my report. Interesting enough before I came down to Haiti and DR there was talk about a big storm coming but nothing major happen. Hopefully Irene will blowover and not cause any significant damages. The whole island has already endured so much.

Trip Report Day 4: SWITCH.

Wake up from the constant itching from all those got damn mosquito's in Haiti. Can't believe how bad they got my ass. LITERALLY! Tried to endure but fuck this.

CH: Yo Junior! I need you to go to the pharmacy and pick up some itching cream. Ooh and go to the store soo Bubbly can cook me breakfast.

Junior: Right away boss.

Junior was staying in the other room for majority of my time here so he was there at my beckings call. God you can live like a king down here.

Junior returns with the food an ointment and all was cool. After Bubbly fix breakfast I ask Bubbly does she have a friend that would like to join us possibly later.

Bubbly: Si mi Amor! Te quiero.

CH: Te quiero mucho.

Took care of her and off she went.

Junior: Hey boss I got to another one that you might like. She's very muy freaky freaky.

CH: Pimp I'm already a little tired from last night extravaganza. Fuck it why not.

Short time later she arrives. Hmm and what have we got here. Let's call her Lollipop. I'm sitting outside on the patio chair and she comes and joins me. Told her I just wanted head for right now.

Lollipop: AQUI! (Here)

CH: Si mi amor.

Without hesitation she whips out ol mighty Joe and proceeds to re-welcome him to paradise. You can see the sweat coming down her face as she's bobb her head up and down. I'm trying to stay cool with a cigar in my hand and a drink in another but then. My toes start to curl!

CH: Ooh MY DAMN! Mi Amor let's take this to the bedroom.

Had plan to just get some head but once I saw that pretty brown round I knew I had to crush it. The bed is moving like the ocean. And I'm deep in this pussy. Tried to hold strong but fuck this cus it's time.

CH: AHHHH SHIT!

And just like that gents. EUPHORIA was reach. Paid lollipop for her troubles and off into town me and junior go.

Junior: Hey boss that's Mr. M. He just passed us.

CH: Say word! Fuck it catch up to him then. VAMANOS, VAMANOS!

For those of who don't know Mr. M is a cool American that moved down to Sosua. He was in my last year trip report as he came thru big time when my Sosua fishin boat trip went sour. So I had to pay my respects. We catch up to him and we all pull over.

CH: Home Slice! What the deal is.

Mr. M: Pimp what up!

CH: I see your still down here chillin in paradise. I'm trying to be like you when I grow up!

Mr. M: It's all good!

Talk to him a little more and told him about my birthday party for tomorrow. Invited him to my BBQ at the villa.

Mr. M: Yeah I'll be there. I'll bring some other catz as well and we can get our drink on.

CH: Cool.

Afterwards me and junior went to Scotia Bank. Every time I come to Sosua I've NEVER had a problem with this bank. I go inside to take out some bread. Hell all you need is copies of your passport and I'd and it's all good.

So while my transaction is being place I'm trying to flirt with the teller. I ask her for her number and she says no.

CH: Junior did I just get turned down in Sosua?

Junior: Apparently so boss!

CH: WOW! That's a first! Didn't think that was possible LOL.

Got my bread and off we go. Tip junior again for those ladies that he hooked me up with. Got into my Clearance Weatherspoon voice off Boomerang.

CH: Good pick JUNIOR!

We hit up Valentinos shop real quick for some more cigars and then we started out journey to costambar beach. We get the beach and it's real nice.

We order some food and a presidente grande while I chill in the shade. An older lady wants to give my feet a pedicure to relax myself even more. Now I haven't gotten a pedicure since the clippers was in the playoffs and usually a grown man getting his toes done in a salon is a direct man code violation but WTF why not. I'm on the beach and life is good.

So as I'm getting my toes done I see a young tenderoni that has some HUGE tits. Told Junior to bring those tits over here so that I can feel them.

Junior: Right away boss.

She comes and bends down for me to touch those melons.

Girl: All Natural.

CH: Yes they are indeed! Very nice.

Wanted to just take her in the back somewhere and just SKEET on this tigo bitties but I'm just too relaxed. Gave baby girl my thanks and off she went.

Got my grub on, got me toes done, I'm cold chilling on the beach with no one bothering me. Hell what more do I want.

CH: Hey Junior call Bubbly up and tell her to bring her friend!

Junior: I'm on it!

Junior tells me that they're on the way but it's going to cost $20 bucks for the taxi.

CH: I don't care. Make it soo!

So while I wait for the two honey buns I decide to take a quick dip in the ocean. AHH YES! Peace and tranquility is in full effect. And then.

CH: WTF.

I see two girls giving me the eye on the beach waving me to come to them. For a sec I thought it was Bubbly and her friend. I goes to investigate. Ooh and what's this. A little late afternoon happy hour you're offering. Hmm maybe next time.

A few minutes later the ladies finally arrive. Ooh and who do we have here. Let's call her Young Starr. She's a little shy at first but in-time I would see how bright she truly shines.

Order some more food for the ladies and had Junior translate to the ladies my plans for my Bday extravaganza.

Bubbly: Tu Quiero 5 chicas?

CH: Si mi Amor! I want 5 honey dips at my BBQ party.

Bubbly: You muy freaky freaky!

CH: I know.

The sun was going down and it was time to leave. Paid the tab which was much cheaper then Sosua beach and off we go. Was soo calm and relax that I decided that I wanted to drive back. A little to calm and relax. Damn near almost feel asleep at the wheel but we made it to the villa safe.

Jump in the pool bucky naked and told the ladies to come and join me.

Bubbly: Muy frio mi amor!

CH: Woman bring your ass. AHORA!

Bubbly: OK! Uno momento.

The ladies put the head cap on so they won't mess up their hair. They both jump in and I got two honey buns one and each arm. Let's see here. With whom should I start with. Ahh Yess let's start with Young Starr. Ooh my. I'm crushing young Starr while kissing Bubbly. Then all of sudden I here Martin Lawrence voice off House Party.

Martin Lawrence: SWITCH!

(AT THE 5:17 MARK)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGKdRuSJuWo[/url]

The body follows the mind so I had no choice but to make the switch. Slowly but surely we started to make it out off the pool and into the bedroom. But on the way there was a huge trail of lust and passion. I saw visions of Bubbly giving me head while Starr is licking my balls while I'm laying halfway out the pool. And then I heard the voice again.

ML: SWITCH.

They switch and take turns with every command. We make it to the pool chair. One rides me cow girl while the other sits the pussy right on my face. Ooh no doubt! Ol' Coolie can be a nasty muthuafucka.

ML: SWITCH.

Finally we made it to the bedroom. Didn't notice then but Starr has a nice bubble butt. So after they quench my every sexual desires it was time to fulfill there's. The law of the universe is as follows: Whatever energy you put out is the energy that you'll get back. So I turned on my theme music of the day Craig T Cooper- That's the spot and started to dine on southern cuisine.

Starr was up first! She came hard and strong.

CH: You leche?

Starr: Si mi Amor! No mas.

ML: SWITCH!

Bubbly was being stubborn and was trying to hold strong. But no matter. My lips and tongue was vibrating to her hip movement so it was just a matter of time. And then.

Bubbly: Aye PAPI! Me leche. No mas! No mas mi amor.

CH: U sure? You finito?

Bubbly: Si mi amor. Te quiero

CH: Te Quiero mucho.

The ladies snuggle right under me and just like that we were out. What a day!

Trip Report Day 5: The Celebration coming soon

Great report Coolie, and thanks for the love in my forum. Wherever you post is cool with me, I just hope you get the love back that you have always given these forums.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1189466]Great report Coolie, and thanks for the love in my forum. Wherever you post is cool with me, I just hope you get the love back that you have always given these forums.[/QUOTE]Yo Coolie? Man you had me hinging on every word, that was a funny ass report.

I can't wait untill Coolie High Saga continues. A Long Time Ago. In a Coolie.

High Galaxy. Far far away. Bravo bravo. Standing ovation my bruthaa.

Deepmmpactt All Day. EveryDay. Pump yo brakes!

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1189452]Trip Report Day 4: SWITCH.

Without hesitation she whips out ol mighty Joe and proceeds to re-welcome him to paradise. You can see the sweat coming down her face as she's bobb her head up and down. I'm trying to stay cool with a cigar in my hand and a drink in another but then. My toes start to curl! .

Trip Report Day 5: The Celebration coming soon[/QUOTE]Yeah, yeah, but what about the important stuff?

What was the food like? The Wi Fi? Can you still get a USA Today down there?

How much are they asking for those wooden birds on the beach and what did you pay for the pedicure?

The hurricane dropped alot of water. And it is still dropping. Not too many guys here now. 6 including myself, I think. So what I am I to do? Chill out and get busy.

[QUOTE=BlackSultan;1189603]The hurricane dropped alot of water. And it is still dropping. Not too many guys here now. 6 including myself, I think. So what I am I to do? Chill out and get busy.[/QUOTE]Go grab Yohanny and head upstairs. Maybe she can fix your IPHONE.

BEAVERHUNTER

This rain is fucking up my vacation bigtime! Went to Classicos last night! About 8 people in the club. 6 of them were the employees! The girls don't come out in the afternoon or early evening because of the rain and hardly any cuties at the merengue bar at night. Night time, the pickings are VERY slim! I don't know what happened at Passions but a high turn over from 2 months ago and they are down about 50% in the number of girls they had. I went in yesteday and there were only about 12 girls in the place at 9PM. Looks like this will be my first and last trip to Sosua in August!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1189686]This rain is fucking up my vacation bigtime! Went to Classicos last night! About 8 people in the club. 6 of them were the employees! The girls don't come out in the afternoon or early evening because of the rain and hardly any cuties at the merengue bar at night. Night time, the pickings are VERY slim! I don't know what happened at Passions but a high turn over from 2 months ago and they are down about 50% in the number of girls they had. I went in yesteday and there were only about 12 girls in the place at 9PM. Looks like this will be my first and last trip to Sosua in August![/QUOTE]I was in Passions last week, and there must have been 30 to 35 women available. You also might want to try CMP.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1189452]Trip Report Day 4: SWITCH.

The ladies put the head cap on so they won't mess up their hair. They both jump in and I got two honey buns one and each arm. Let's see here. With whom should I start with. Ahh Yess let's start with Young Starr. Ooh my. I'm crushing young Starr while kissing Bubbly. Then all of sudden I here Martin Lawrence voice off House Party.

We make it to the pool chair. One rides me cow girl while the other sits the pussy right on my face. Ooh no doubt! Ol' Coolie can be a nasty muthuafucka.[/QUOTE]Dude, your smashing girls in the pool and pool chair, hopefully your condo is not part of a retirement community. If so, I'm sure many of the residents will be seeking emotional therapy in the near future.

Another great report! Although, I do miss the conversations with the roach and mosquitoes.

[QUOTE=BlackSultan;1189603]The hurricane dropped alot of water. And it is still dropping. Not too many guys here now. 6 including myself, I think. So what I am I to do? Chill out and get busy.[/QUOTE]Post some pics!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1189686]This rain is fucking up my vacation bigtime! Went to Classicos last night! About 8 people in the club. 6 of them were the employees! The girls don't come out in the afternoon or early evening because of the rain and hardly any cuties at the merengue bar at night. Night time, the pickings are VERY slim! I don't know what happened at Passions but a high turn over from 2 months ago and they are down about 50% in the number of girls they had. I went in yesteday and there were only about 12 girls in the place at 9PM. Looks like this will be my first and last trip to Sosua in August![/QUOTE]Hurricane season in the new Sosua. I prefer Sosua when its sunny and I can chill outside or on the beach. Thanks for the update.

Some one please recommed some decent hotels in Purto Plata near where actions are?

Thanks a lot!

Strad

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1189720]Hurricane season in the new Sosua. I prefer Sosua when its sunny and I can chill outside or on the beach. Thanks for the update.[/QUOTE]I just returned after almost two months in Sosua. The weather was beautiful almost every day, with sunny mornings with a breeze, heat and humidity in the middle of the day, and late afternoon sunshine, then cooler temperatures after dark. Occasionally there were rain showers and one or two days of heavy rain, but for the most part the weather was wonderful and much better than I expected. This is, however, the hurricane season and obviously it is unpredictable. This is why it is not high season.

I find any girls at that time I'm at ng hotel

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1189466]Great report Coolie, and thanks for the love in my forum. Wherever you post is cool with me, I just hope you get the love back that you have always given these forums.[/QUOTE]Pimp thanks for reading. I use to be a lurker for years before I even posted any info so I'm just returning the love that you and other OG mongers been doing for years. BTW check your email. I got to little present for you.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1189503]Yo Coolie? Man you had me hinging on every word, that was a funny ass report.

I can't wait untill Coolie High Saga continues. A Long Time Ago. In a Coolie.

High Galaxy. Far far away. Bravo bravo. Standing ovation my bruthaa.

Deepmmpactt All Day. EveryDay. Pump yo brakes![/QUOTE]'Along time ago in a Coolie High galaxy far far away' LMFAO. Your a fool for that one. Stay tune I definitely have more sagas on the way LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1189561]Yeah, yeah, but what about the important stuff?

What was the food like? The Wi Fi? Can you still get a USA Today down there?

How much are they asking for those wooden birds on the beach and what did you pay for the pedicure?[/QUOTE]I see we got jokes LOL. Well the food was good. My wifi in the villa wasn't bad. I don't read USA today when I'm in paradise. I haven't seen those wooden birds at the beach and I paid 300pesos for the pedicure. Hope my info helps. LOL.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1189710]Dude, your smashing girls in the pool and pool chair, hopefully your condo is not part of a retirement community. If so, I'm sure many of the residents will be seeking emotional therapy in the near future.

Another great report! Although, I do miss the conversations with the roach and mosquitoes.[/QUOTE]Hey I'm glad that I had no more conversations with their asses. You know its serious when insects start to talk to you LOL

Trip Report Day 5: The Celebration Part 1.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to me gents! Woke up with a HUGE ASS smile on my face. Started to kiss Bubbly and from there had to get my morning smash-on. Don't know what it is but it's a fucking turn on to me to smash a honey dip while there's another honey dip right beside me trying to sleep. I start to kiss Starr while I'm smashin Bubbly to wake her up.

CH: You next mi amor.

Starr: No mas mi amor! You freaky, freaky mucho.

CH: I know.

ML: SWITCH!

So after my morning breakfast of Starr & Bubbly it was time to get the day started. Had to rock my Bday theme music as I take a shower and get dress. Hip hop isn't dead yet gents.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oso5a5JBfRg&ob=av2n[/url]

What to do! What to do! Was so got damn happy with Starr & Bubbly that I honestly was just thinking about just having them 2 instead of 5 chicas. Well maybe just one more would be nice.

Bubbly: no quiero 5 chicas?

CH: no mi amor. Yo quiero 3 chicas.

Bubbly: ok! No problema.

We all finish getting dress and we head to the bank. Had the ladies wait in a car while me and Junior head inside.

CH: Yo these honeys are cool as a fan. Man I'm digging them

Junior: Told you! Nice clean girls. They won't cause you no problems.

So while I'm getting my bread Junior goes to check on the girls. 5 mins later.

Junior: Boss Bubbly has your 3rd girl waiting for you in the car. She wants to introduce her to you.

CH: Damn ALREADY!

I finish my business with the bank and saw my 3rd chica. Ooh My! What have we here. A young Dazzler. Yeah that's what I'll call her. Junior got her number and told her we'll call her once the cookout begins.

Bubbly: You like?

CH: Does a bear shit in the woods?

Bubbly: Que?

CH: Umm si mi amor! Me gusta mucho.

Slid Bubbly and Starr some bread for last night services. Now Since bubbly and starr didn't live to far out main Sosua I told Junior to drive to their place so we can drop them off.

We get to the barrio and it's barely in improvement from what I saw in Haiti! BARELY! Bubbly shows her place first. Nothing but a couple chairs and a rug. No need for a sauna here. Hell just sit in the house and see the steam come from your body. I did! This wasn't a house but an oven. Up next was Starrs house that was around back. Yeah like I said in Haiti is what I'll say in DR: No one should live like this. Starr introduces me to her little one. I ask Bubbly where's her bambina and she tells me that her young one is in SDQ. Ooh ok

So as I'm walking around I see all these young ones coming around me. My mind starts to ponders.

CH: Yo junior is there a toy store not to far around here.

Junior: Yeah there's a huge store in Puerto plata off the Malecon.

CH: K! Ask Starr how many kids are around here and we'll go bring some toys tomorrow.

It's about 25 kids Starr tells Junior. Ok cool! Mañana we get toys for the kids. Figure since I couldn't help out Haiti the way I wanted I could at least help out here. I kissed Bubbly and Starr and told them I'll see them in a few hours. Junior and I then drive to the market to get the food and drinks.

CH: Hey Junior you can BBQ right? Cus my ass can't cook! AT ALL!

Junior: Haven't BBQ and a lonnnng time.

CH: FUCK!

Junior: No worries boss. I'll find some one to BBQ for you.

We finish gettin the food and had the little young hustlers carry my bags to the car. Tip them 300pesos each and now it's time to get my Bday cake. Went around the corner to the bakery to place my order. My cake will be ready in a couple hours. Cool!

CH: Yo where are we going?

Junior: Where picking up Dazzler. She says she can cook.

CH: Umm ok!

We get to her spot and I tell junior to let her know to bring clothes for tonight as well.

Junior: Gotcha boss.

Ooh MY! She enters the suv with some tight spandex showing all her curves. She sees my eyes light up like a kid at Christmas.

Dazzler: Te gusta?

CH: Is the pen mightier then the sword?

Dazzler: Que?

CH: Si mi Amor! Me gusta mucho.

We converse a little bit and found out that she use to have an ny novio and that all her boyfriends are American. Umm ok! Never mind that though. Where back at the villa and Junior starts to prep the food. He tells Dazzler to ease up on dazzling my ass and come help him.

CH: UNO momento Junior! I'm in need of my midday medicine. And she's what the doctor ordered.

Junior: WOW again! U not tired yet boss? U popping pills?

CH: NO sir! This is all me. Now if you'll excuse me I have a Bday present to unwrap.

I takes her to my room!

Dazzler: piscina mi amor?

CH: no mi amor! Possibley mas tardes.

Wait a minute! How in the hell does she know I like to smash in the pool. Ooh that's right Bubbly & Starr must have told her. My girls.

Yaw know what happens next. I proceeded to unwrap my present. She's lying on her back spread eagle with a smirk on her face for me to come get some. I do a Greg Louganis and do a swan dive in the pussy.

Left stroke, right stroke was the best stroke. The Coolie stroke, tongue down all her throat!

I finish strong with the back stroke!

She's not done. She turns around and starts playing with the kitty as I kiss her all over.

Dazzler: Aye PAPI.

And just like that she reach Euphoria. She heard the legend of Coolies Uncanny stamina and wanted to go again.

CH: Uno momento mi amor. Ayuda Junior primero.

Dazzler: K mi amor.

I'm chillin outside while Dazzler starts to BBQ the food. She's damn near Bucky naked while cooking. The music is playing and she's moving that ass to the beat while flipping over my burger.

CH: Hey Junior what's your slogan again.

Junior: THIS IS THEE LIFE!

Muthuafucking right! Junior goes to pick up the cake. I'm in the pool chillin. Some of the food is done so she goes and fix a plate and brings it to me. She asks do I want something to drink. Why yes please. Junior comes back with the cake.

CH: Yo Junior bring that cake by the pool. Ol Coolie want a taste.

Junior: Right away boss.

Fuck waiting for people to sing me a happy Bday song before I cut the cake. Let the celebration begin.

Trip Report Day 5: The Celebration Part 2 coming soon

[QUOTE=Watch Watch;1189760]I find any girls at that time I'm at ng hotel[/QUOTE]I got your PM, dude. Go to After One and there should be chicas in there at that time. It's a bar in the casino down by the beach.

Thinking about going down there Wed. Sun. But Airfare is about 800 from NYC to POP rt. Anyone heading down there during that time. How is the action. Will it be dead due to the holiday? Been there twice before but with big groups of friends (5+). I'm cautions (scared) going there alone. Not exactly the safest place. Will be staying at NG. Hope to find a few buddies to go. But most are married and have no excuse.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1189862]Trip Report Day 5: The Celebration Part 1.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to me gents! Woke up with a HUGE ASS smile on my face. Started to kiss Bubbly and from there had to get my morning smash-on. Don't know what it is but it's a fucking turn on to me to smash a honey dip while there's another honey dip right beside me trying to sleep. I start to kiss Starr while I'm smashin Bubbly to wake her up.

CH: You next mi amor.

Starr: No mas mi amor! You freaky, freaky mucho.

CH: I know.

ML: SWITCH!

So after my morning breakfast of Starr & Bubbly it was time to get the day started. Had to rock my Bday theme music as I take a shower and get dress. Hip hop isn't dead yet gents.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oso5a5JBfRg&ob=av2n[/url]

What to do! What to do! Was so got damn happy with Starr & Bubbly that I honestly was just thinking about just having them 2 instead of 5 chicas. Well maybe just one more would be nice.

Bubbly: no quiero 5 chicas?

CH: no mi amor. Yo quiero 3 chicas.

Bubbly: ok! No problema.

We all finish getting dress and we head to the bank. Had the ladies wait in a car while me and Junior head inside.

CH: Yo these honeys are cool as a fan. Man I'm digging them

Junior: Told you! Nice clean girls. They won't cause you no problems.

So while I'm getting my bread Junior goes to check on the girls. 5 mins later.

Junior: Boss Bubbly has your 3rd girl waiting for you in the car. She wants to introduce her to you.

CH: Damn ALREADY!

I finish my business with the bank and saw my 3rd chica. Ooh My! What have we here. A young Dazzler. Yeah that's what I'll call her. Junior got her number and told her we'll call her once the cookout begins.

Bubbly: You like?

CH: Does a bear shit in the woods?

Bubbly: Que?

CH: Umm si mi amor! Me gusta mucho.

Slid Bubbly and Starr some bread for last night services. Now Since bubbly and starr didn't live to far out main Sosua I told Junior to drive to their place so we can drop them off.

We get to the barrio and it's barely in improvement from what I saw in Haiti! BARELY! Bubbly shows her place first. Nothing but a couple chairs and a rug. No need for a sauna here. Hell just sit in the house and see the steam come from your body. I did! This wasn't a house but an oven. Up next was Starrs house that was around back. Yeah like I said in Haiti is what I'll say in DR: No one should live like this. Starr introduces me to her little one. I ask Bubbly where's her bambina and she tells me that her young one is in SDQ. Ooh ok

So as I'm walking around I see all these young ones coming around me. My mind starts to ponders.

CH: Yo junior is there a toy store not to far around here.

Junior: Yeah there's a huge store in Puerto plata off the Malecon.

CH: K! Ask Starr how many kids are around here and we'll go bring some toys tomorrow.

It's about 25 kids Starr tells Junior. Ok cool! Mañana we get toys for the kids. Figure since I couldn't help out Haiti the way I wanted I could at least help out here. I kissed Bubbly and Starr and told them I'll see them in a few hours. Junior and I then drive to the market to get the food and drinks.

CH: Hey Junior you can BBQ right? Cus my ass can't cook! AT ALL!

Junior: Haven't BBQ and a lonnnng time.

CH: FUCK!

Junior: No worries boss. I'll find some one to BBQ for you.

We finish gettin the food and had the little young hustlers carry my bags to the car. Tip them 300pesos each and now it's time to get my Bday cake. Went around the corner to the bakery to place my order. My cake will be ready in a couple hours. Cool!

CH: Yo where are we going?

Junior: Where picking up Dazzler. She says she can cook.

CH: Umm ok!

We get to her spot and I tell junior to let her know to bring clothes for tonight as well.

Junior: Gotcha boss.

Ooh MY! She enters the suv with some tight spandex showing all her curves. She sees my eyes light up like a kid at Christmas.

Dazzler: Te gusta?

CH: Is the pen mightier then the sword?

Dazzler: Que?

CH: Si mi Amor! Me gusta mucho.

We converse a little bit and found out that she use to have an ny novio and that all her boyfriends are American. Umm ok! Never mind that though. Where back at the villa and Junior starts to prep the food. He tells Dazzler to ease up on dazzling my ass and come help him.

CH: UNO momento Junior! I'm in need of my midday medicine. And she's what the doctor ordered.

Junior: WOW again! U not tired yet boss? U popping pills?

CH: NO sir! This is all me. Now if you'll excuse me I have a Bday present to unwrap.

I takes her to my room!

Dazzler: piscina mi amor?

CH: no mi amor! Possibley mas tardes.

Wait a minute! How in the hell does she know I like to smash in the pool. Ooh that's right Bubbly & Starr must have told her. My girls.

Yaw know what happens next. I proceeded to unwrap my present. She's lying on her back spread eagle with a smirk on her face for me to come get some. I do a Greg Louganis and do a swan dive in the pussy.

Left stroke, right stroke was the best stroke. The Coolie stroke, tongue down all her throat!

I finish strong with the back stroke!

She's not done. She turns around and starts playing with the kitty as I kiss her all over.

Dazzler: Aye PAPI.

And just like that she reach Euphoria. She heard the legend of Coolies Uncanny stamina and wanted to go again.

CH: Uno momento mi amor. Ayuda Junior primero.

Dazzler: K mi amor.

I'm chillin outside while Dazzler starts to BBQ the food. She's damn near Bucky naked while cooking. The music is playing and she's moving that ass to the beat while flipping over my burger.

CH: Hey Junior what's your slogan again.

Junior: THIS IS THEE LIFE!

Muthuafucking right! Junior goes to pick up the cake. I'm in the pool chillin. Some of the food is done so she goes and fix a plate and brings it to me. She asks do I want something to drink. Why yes please. Junior comes back with the cake.

CH: Yo Junior bring that cake by the pool. Ol Coolie want a taste.

Junior: Right away boss.

Fuck waiting for people to sing me a happy Bday song before I cut the cake. Let the celebration begin.

Trip Report Day 5: The Celebration Part 2 coming soon[/QUOTE]Coolie switching lanes like whoa!

Smashing 3 putas Like Whoa. Happy B-Day. Like Whoaaaa. LOL. Yo Coolie what differs Dazzler.

From, the other 2 honeys, and brutha if you can smash 5 putas at one time. Damn you the man!

Even me the Chocolate Jackhammer aka Deepmmpactt couldn't Hammer five putas, ill.

Run out of power after hammering 3 of them, but your my hero. Normally me El Caballo Negro,

Can't buck them off like you. So you the man. Remember you are jedi master Coolie High.

The Force is strong within this one. Yo Boy Deepmmpactt Jedi Royal Mastaaa. LOL!

[QUOTE=Jelly Belly;1190030]Thinking about going down there Wed. Sun. But Airfare is about 800 from NYC to POP rt. Anyone heading down there during that time. How is the action. Will it be dead due to the holiday? Been there twice before but with big groups of friends (5+). I'm cautions (scared) going there alone. Not exactly the safest place. Will be staying at NG. Hope to find a few buddies to go. But most are married and have no excuse.[/QUOTE]Glad I got my tickets a long time ago. It's usually OK.

Hows the weather there? Any changes? And the chicas.

[QUOTE=Jelly Belly;1190030]Thinking about going down there Wed. Sun. But Airfare is about 800 from NYC to POP rt. Anyone heading down there during that time. How is the action. Will it be dead due to the holiday? Been there twice before but with big groups of friends (5+). I'm cautions (scared) going there alone. Not exactly the safest place. Will be staying at NG. Hope to find a few buddies to go. But most are married and have no excuse.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. ROFL. You are scared to go alone to Sosua, seriously? . I have gone there alone almost every time, its just fine. Its much safer than NYC. I was there last Thanksgiving and it was good as any other time. Staying in NG and walking to classico is safe at any hour. If you want to go to la passion late at nite take a moto concho (though I would walk). It used to be not too safe to carry cash in your pockets and walk alone late at nights due to the pick pocket chicas but ever since the cleanup there are no more of those, even if they show up just walk away or shove them away. I can almost assure you they are no more, so just relax and enjoy your trip, you're sure to have a great time. Get your C or V and party like a king!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1189017]The nut job chica from Santiago. I was detained by the police because of her. She tried to steal a cell phone from an apartment, where I was staying, by pushing the cell up her pussy. Eventually the police, had her pull the cell phone out of her pussy in the street. Thereafter she complained that her pussy was hurt and said it was my fault, and the incompetent Sosua police detained me. She also tried to stab me with the switch blade she carries in her purse (she got into Classicos and After One with that knife) and she also tried to stab the watchie man at the apartment building. The incompetent, useless, Dominican judge in Sosua told ME to pay her 1000 pesos, or I would be put in jail.

I don't miss Sosua,"swim with sharks, don't be surprised if you get bit."[/QUOTE]Jao, there was report about this thief chica in the forum a while ago. I am surprised you did not read it!

[QUOTE=Kman1;1190170]Jao, there was report about this thief chica in the forum a while ago. I am surprised you did not read it![/QUOTE]It was Jao that wrote it with pictures of this chica at the police station.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1189862]HAPPY BIRTHDAY to me gents! Woke up with a HUGE ASS smile on my face. Started to kiss Bubbly and from there had to get my morning smash-on. Don't know what it is but it's a fucking turn on to me to smash a honey dip while there's another honey dip right beside me trying to sleep.

Dazzler: Aye PAPI.[/QUOTE]That's the way to celebrate a birthday. The hell with going to Chuck E. Cheese and playing dumb ass video games while the Muppets sing stupid ass songs!

BTW, I was first called Papi in Medellin last year and was not sure what to think about it. I thought,"Am I too damn old?","I'm I a father figure?", WTF? I just called Fireball today in Sosua and she knew exactly who Papi was; I now live for the "Aye Popi!"

[QUOTE=Kman1;1190170]Jao, there was report about this thief chica in the forum a while ago. I am surprised you did not read it![/QUOTE]That incident occurred over 2 years ago and I posted about it back then. I have not been to Sosua in years.

You have lots of fun with the Santiago chicas, LOL.

trip report day 5: the celabration part 2.

junior: boss i got to go and pickup bubbly and starr.

ch: k cool.

it's just me and dazzler again. told her to jump in the pool. i'm ready for round two. i have no more ammo left so at this point i'm just straight sport fucking. you know your putting in work when you start to sweat on the pool. then in the mist of sport fucking bubbly and starr shows up ooh and what's this. bubbly brings 2 more ladies.

bubbly: i have 2 more ladies for you mi amor.

(while i'm still smashin dazzler in the pool)

ch: bubbly, quieres casarte conmigo (will you marry me)

bubbly: si mi amor. te quiero.

she's laughing and giggling while accepting my proposal but at that moment she has no idea how dead serious i was. anyway while i'm still smashin dazzler one of the new girls wants to come in the pool. she tells dazzler that she got next.

ch: wtf? is this the playboy mansion.

dazzler: que?

ch: nada mi amor!

now i know how hugh hefner in his prime feels like. problem is i'm soo got damn satisfied that i don't need any more ladies. fuck if somebody shot me right now i wouldn't care. dear god: thank you! the new girl sense that she wasn't going to get a piece of the action went back inside and got her grub on with the other ladies. i'm trying to focus the mind, body and soul in cumin again but it's not happening.

ch: i'm done.

dazzler: finito?

ch: see mi amor.

i take the condom off and put it right beside the condom wrapper on the edge of the pool. all of a sudden mr. m comes and enters the scene. he sees the 5 ladies and the condom wrapper by the pool.

mr. m: got damn coolie! u sure you got enough ladies.

ch: i'm straight for right now.

mr. m: u sure? cus you know we can get more for you lol.

ch: naw i'm honestly cool right now lol.

mr. m brings his friend i call cool j. an older cat that also moved down to the promise land.

ch: damn i'm jealous! i want to move here.

cool j: you jealous? u just turned 31 and your here in dr. shiiit the feelings mutual lol.

so as i'm talking to the fellas with dazzler in my arms while still in the pool the 2 new girls start to get upset.

junior: boss the 2 girls are mad and are about to leave. they say you don't want them.

ch: there more than welcome to stay and be cool but if they want to leave then so be it.

mr. m: these chicas just don't get it! there only thinking about getting paid but this is a bbq. if something happens cool! if not well atleast you got your grub and drink on. like they have anything better else to do.

fuck i didn't care! the 2 new girls leave the villa and the party continues. now as i'm talking to mr. m and cool j i see young starr handling shit. she's fixing plates for my two guest bringing them drinks. she barely says a word but her action speaks volumes. very interesting! while starr is tending to my guest i tell bubbly to join in with me and dazzler and get in the pool

bubbly: si mi amor.

and just like that i got dazzler holding onto my left arm and bubbly holding onto my right arm.

ch: hey junior what's that saying of urs.

junior: this is thee life!

he ain't lying! for a sec i thought i was dreaming. hell and the day isn't even done yet. mr. m brings another cat to the villa. his name is big o. a retired cat that's lived in sosua for a few years as well.

big o: hey i'm having a party this sat. i got a villa at casa linda as well. come thru.

ch: say no more! i'm there.

chilled for a little more then it was time to figure out plans for tonight.

ch: hey junior is caberette good on tuesday?

junior: naw not really boss! the only place that's somewhat decent on a tuesday is classicos.

ch: very well. classicos it is then.

mr. m and cool j said they'll meet back at my crib around 11:30. big o decline cus he needs his beauty sleep but he'll see me this sat. cool! rest up a little bit and it was time. had bubbly iron my shirt for me while i finish getting dress, my guest arrived and the ladies are are looking proper. it's time. including myself there was 7 of us. we get to the front and junior tries to get us free entry cus where going to buy a bottle.

junior: boss there not having it! they still want us to pay 800 pesos for the 4 guys. the ladies are free.

ch: i'm not going to argue over barely $20 dollars. i got to many eyes on me and i don't want to pull out my wad of cash. pay it for me and i'll take care of you later.

junior: your the boss.

everyone starts to make there way up stairs and then i get stop by security.

security: no hat on upstairs.

ch: junior!

junior: for your troubles.

he slide security some bread and just like that i continue on my way to vip. i know the game fellas. u take care of me and i take care of you. ooh and what's this the vip section is closed.

ch: junior!

junior: i'm on it boss.

ch: my man.

he goes and talks to the manager and sure enough they open vip for me. my entourage starts to settle in the vip. a regular bottle of grey goose cost $6000pesos plus mixers come to 6500 pesos. told the waiter to make it soo. while the waiter brings the bottle i turns around and i see a ghost from the past and she's wearing a red seductress dress.

ch: ooh shit!

s: hola mi amor!

it my main girl sade! those who read my last trip report knows that this was my girl. i had stop talking to her earlier in the year cus i didn't want to hear her asking me for money while she still does her dirt with other men. had wonder if we would find each other again and sure enough here she is looking magically delicious.

ch: umm hi!

all my spanish is thrown out the window along with my english. i'm totally speechless. she enters the vip section and sits beside me with style and grace as if she's coming to reclaim what's hers. fuck me! wasn't expecting this! fuck this is awkward. bubbly steps to me.

bubbly: who is this?

ch: umm mi ex novia! uno momento.

bubbly: k mi amor.

bubbly goes and sit back with starr and dazzler! now that's the definition of being cool! for a sec i thought there might be some drama but a decision still needs to be made. on the far right i have 3honey buns that's made my day the best bday ever and to my left i have a woman that vibe with me perfectly. i wanted to square things up and have a deep conversation with her but junior advise me that now is not the time.

ch: yeah your right junior. tell her that i can't have her here right now cus i'm with my other ladies. tell her we'll talk tomorrow.

junior tells her and she's none to happy. she remains cool and leaves the vip section as well as the drink i had offered on the table. a huge relief came upon me. i rejoin my young tenderoni's.

ch: glad that was over!

mr. m: yo was that the honey dip that was with us when we went fishin last year.

ch: yeah.

mr. m: ooh ok! got damn she looking fine in that red dress.

ch: you ain't never lie.

now where was i. ooh that's right it's time to get our drink on. as always since my spanish is primitive i stay studying the ladies body language and how they vibe with me. and sure enough starr and bubbly remain cool the whole time thru the whole episode. hell they patiently waited for me while i dealt with sade. as far as dazzler goes she's leaving the vip section moving around talking to people doing her thing. interesting! she comes and have a drink with me.

dazzler: you no like me. u like mucho mucho chicas.

ch: no mami! me gusta mucho.

she gives me a look like yeah ok! i shrugged it off and continue my celebration. i chills and started to just cool out with starr and bubbly.

mr. m: yo so your done with sade?

ch: yeah i'm done!

mr. m: yeah ok! shit ain't over.

ch: hey these two honey buns define cool. so i'm straight.

mr. m: yeah aaight.

we finish up the drinks and it was time to call it a night. tip the waiter and security and off we go. we gets down stairs and a whole bunch of kids ask for money. fuck why not! i give them all i had left. coolie loves the kids.

we get to the villa had a few more drinks then i was done.

ch: yo junior tell dazzler she's going to have to sleep on the couch tonight cus there's no more room.

junior: no worries boss.

ch: starr, bubbly vamanos! ahora

i ended the day just as i started! two honey dips snuggle up under me. night gents!

trip report day 6: seis mil pesos coming soon

Wow! These are great reports and hilarious writing. Kudos CH! I'm insanely jealous of CH. Wish I'd known about Sosua in my younger, singler days. Oh well, I'll make do with living vicariously through these reports. Can't wait for Day 6 report.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1190234]Trip Report Day 5: The Celabration Part 2.

Trip Report Day 6: Seis Mil Pesos Coming Soon[/QUOTE]

So I have a wonderful week in DR. Met beatiful women did alot of excursiions I. E. Horse, diving, duneuggies. My last night I wanted a banger. I run into Patricia (tatted up chick in front of classicos. At first didn't think much of it. Now I know any chick that is kissing all up on you in public after just meeting you is TROUBLE.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xiV20BkbU[/url]

I thoroughly enjoyed DR even thinking about someday to buy land there. But you are warned. I take this *ag to get dinner in a taxi and back to my place. I start to pound away for 20 or 30 minutes hard like a mutha. She came twice. After 30 minutes she start to get up and leave I say I didn't even come and we agreed to chill the entire time. She says oh you on viagra. I'm fucking 26 * what the fuck I need that for and I know dudes twice my age who don't need it or need to use it to pound a * like you. I'm athletic and built this * starts to say give me all my 300o pesos which to e honest is overpaying by 1500 pesos mind you for any. Makes a scene at the new Garden. I tell the people BAN her or I aint coming back. She said if the water bottle had een glass she would break it over my head. I say go ahead and try it. But in the end it was just better to pay this dumb * her 3000 pesos. Than continue arguing with a fool for 80 dollars I pay that for my sprint bill every month its the principle. I plan on going back to Sosua soon as I can I loved everybody else. Patricica I must have told 10 other guys about her after it happened. I'm black and built and she had the balls to threathen me you might not be so lucky. If she stabs you or worse you've been warned. I'm going back many many times but I will boycott this working girl from Sosua. You cannot miss her she is on youtube I posted the link of her. Trust me she is crazy and I treated with nothing but respect and still paid her her outrageous quote of 3000 pesos. I met an old g I call him who's been going to Sosua for years and told me he would handle her. These working girls don't understand we finance their entire town. Anyways the best revenge is success I'm aout to embark on a wonderful career. She will still be whoring in Sosua in 5 10 20 years. But I will fuck her up in SOSUA. Other than that dam the women and the town as well as the food were asolutely wonderful. I apoligize for any grammatical errors. I tend to messe up when I rant. It had to be said.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1190521]She said if the water bottle had een glass she would break it over my head. I say go ahead and try it. But in the end it was just better to pay this dumb * her 3000 pesos. Than continue arguing with a fool for 80 dollars I pay that for my sprint bill every month its the principle. I plan on going back to Sosua soon as I can I loved everybody else. Patricica I must have told 10 other guys about her after it happened. I'm black and built and she had the balls to threathen me you might not be so lucky. If she stabs you or worse you've been warned. I'm going back many many times but I will boycott this working girl from Sosua. You cannot miss her she is on youtube I posted the link of her. Trust me she is crazy and I treated with nothing but respect and still paid her her outrageous quote of 3000 pesos. I met an old g I call him who's been going to Sosua for years and told me he would handle her. These working girls don't understand we finance their entire town. Anyways the best revenge is success I'm aout to embark on a wonderful career. She will still be whoring in Sosua in 5 10 20 years. But I will fuck her up in SOSUA. Other than that dam the women and the town as well as the food were asolutely wonderful. I apoligize for any grammatical errors. I tend to messe up when I rant. It had to be said.[/QUOTE]I banged this chica a while back. She had one of the biggest asses in Sosua during my trip. I paid $1, 500 and we did everything (BBBJ, anal, pics, vids, etc.). She stayed the whole night and we laughed and had a great time. I banged her in NG and might do it again on my next trip cause she we had great chemistry. She also knows a lot of chicas around the island that are freaks.

The guys I typically see getting played the most in Sosua are the ones that are black and built, especially if they have a bald head. The chicas are one to these types. If he is from NYC, then that's another box for them to check. They do this for a living. Just cause you are black and lift weights doesn't mean much there. You can easily get stabbed or killed by a chica or her chulo. You said you will embark on a wonderful career while she is whoring, but you are whoring right along with her and she is extorting more money from you than she is worth. Don't take it personal if you get clowned. Just use your money do try another prostitute.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1190581]I banged this chica a while back. She had one of the biggest asses in Sosua during my trip. I paid $1, 500 and we did everything (BBBJ, anal, pics, vids, etc.). She stayed the whole night and we laughed and had a great time. I banged her in NG and might do it again on my next trip cause she we had great chemistry. She also knows a lot of chicas around the island that are freaks.

The guys I typically see getting played the most in Sosua are the ones that are black and built, especially if they have a bald head. The chicas are one to these types. If he is from NYC, then that's another box for them to check. They do this for a living. Just cause you are black and lift weights doesn't mean much there. You can easily get stabbed or killed by a chica or her chulo. You said you will embark on a wonderful career while she is whoring, but you are whoring right along with her and she is extorting more money from you than she is worth. Don't take it personal if you get clowned. Just use your money do try another prostitute.[/QUOTE]One of the problems I have with his post is that he wanted to post about one bad experience on his last night when he said he had a ball the whole trip. Where is the report about the good times with specifics. If it wasnt for this bad chic we would have never heard from him again till his next trip, when he needs info. Yo bro, when you bang alot of chics you will sometimes find bad apples, goes with the game. To his credit I will say the brother offered a TLN at a great price. But wanting to stage a boycott because of one bad chic is sad, especially when you've been getting fucked good everyday. You seem like a financially successful guy (I'm rich she's poor, I overpay, I scuba etc) but don't come crying to Mommy (this board) when you get slapped at school.

Orgasmico I agree with some of your points. But it goes back to what I've been saying about the "New Sosua". Guys arent taking the time to properly interview the girls. They see a great ass and its back to the room for a slamfest. Then the guy kicks the girl out. So naturally these chicas become hardcore and buisiness like. Hence the "New Sosua".

Alot of brothers feel entitled, its their vacation and money I understand. But the girls usually want a certain type of JOHN. They don't want a guy who has an attitude and wants to dog the shit out of their ass. Even though they fuck for money they want a little respect. I've said all along that when GFE left Sosua and "Sportfucking" took over, the "Old Sosua" was history.

Now we still have a few brothers like Coolie, who know how to hang with girls and have fun in and out of bed. Coolie tries to learn the language, pays fair and offers his time. But Coolie high is from the "Old Sosua". This new breed is of the old Brazil mentality. Stick and move guys. But beware because it is all a setup. The female Mayor is very quiet, the family structure in Sosua is very quiet, and the police are very quiet. Everyone is waiting for bad things to happen so they can justify shutting Sosua down for good as we know it. And guess who is going to get the blame? The brothers.

With some DR chicas you can get away without negotiating price and length of time before hand. Other DR chicas,"Cuanto cuesto? =How much?","Por cuanto tiempo? =For how much time?","Sexo oral sin condon? =Oral sex without condon" are some questions you may want to ask beforehand.

You had sex with the chica, so you would have had to pay her something. So maybe she beat you for 1500 pesos (about $40US). It happens, don't take it personally. Some DR chicas have been tricking since they were 11 years old. Some DR chicas live with or around thug Dominican guys (some Dominican guys have been deported back to DR after serving prison sentences in the US). Some DR chicas will not be afraid of a large African American male. Some DR chicas carry knifes, some have been known to use a caustic acid liquid plumber type liquid on people they don't like.

Generally best not to get the DR police involved in any problems you may have, because the police will be looking for a tip from you, so it may cost you more money and time if you get them involved. If you have any doubts, you can always ask the price beforehand "cuanto cuesta?"

[QUOTE=Navdude; 1190521]So I have a wonderful week in DR. Met beatiful women did alot of excursiions I. E. Horse, diving, duneuggies. My last night I wanted a banger. I run into Patricia (tatted up chick in front of classicos. At first didn't think much of it. Now I know any chick that is kissing all up on you in public after just meeting you is TROUBLE.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xiV20BkbU[/url]

I thoroughly enjoyed DR even thinking about someday to buy land there. But you are warned. I take this *ag to get dinner in a taxi and back to my place. I start to pound away for 20 or 30 minutes hard like a mutha. She came twice. After 30 minutes she start to get up and leave I say I didn't even come and we agreed to chill the entire time. She says oh you on viagra. I'm fucking 26 * what the fuck I need that for and I know dudes twice my age who don't need it or need to use it to pound a * like you. I'm athletic and built this * starts to say give me all my 300o pesos which to e honest is overpaying by 1500 pesos mind you for any. Makes a scene at the new Garden. I tell the people BAN her or I aint coming back. She said if the water bottle had een glass she would break it over my head. I say go ahead and try it. But in the end it was just better to pay this dumb * her 3000 pesos. Than continue arguing with a fool for 80 dollars I pay that for my sprint bill every month its the principle. I plan on going back to Sosua soon as I can I loved everybody else. Patricica I must have told 10 other guys about her after it happened. I'm black and built and she had the balls to threathen me you might not be so lucky. If she stabs you or worse you've been warned. I'm going back many many times but I will boycott this working girl from Sosua. You cannot miss her she is on youtube I posted the link of her. Trust me she is crazy and I treated with nothing but respect and still paid her her outrageous quote of 3000 pesos. I met an old g I call him who's been going to Sosua for years and told me he would handle her. These working girls don't understand we finance their entire town. Anyways the best revenge is success I'm aout to embark on a wonderful career. She will still be whoring in Sosua in 5 10 20 years. But I will fuck her up in SOSUA. Other than that dam the women and the town as well as the food were asolutely wonderful. I apoligize for any grammatical errors. I tend to messe up when I rant. It had to be said.[/QUOTE]

Navdude, don't listen to the BS these guys are giving you, you did nothing wrong. The truth is, that B*tch is crazy as hell! Patricia probably has the absolute worst reputation in Sosua! Damn near any vet in Sosua will tell you straight up "Stay the hell away from her, she is nothing but trouble!" I have talked to her and I really think she is bi-polar or has some serious mental issues. I know guys who have been with her and then the next day she will tell them that "they used to be married in a former life and that he is her soul mate! She will kill any giorl that she sees him talking to!", all types of crazy shit! I am glad you had a good time down there and that she didn't try to cut you and you didn't have to get the police involved.

I simply wanted to warn anyody willing to listen what do I care if any one still fucks her after my post. And plus I'm well aware I can get stabed or killed by anyone one that's why I cary a 9 mm on me even when I sleep even then you are never safe. I'm not going to argue back and forth you want to listen do so if not go to SOSUA and fuck the crazy ***** when I tourist stabbed by said chica oh well. An I was going to post my good ones with pics and videos. Just don't be on here that often and in the process of leaving. Finally it was simple a gesture to warn anybody that cared to know. Over and out I'm done with the ***** so its your life.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1190521]So I have a wonderful week in DR. Met beatiful women did alot of excursiions I. E. Horse, diving, duneuggies. My last night I wanted a banger. I run into Patricia (tatted up chick in front of classicos. At first didn't think much of it. Now I know any chick that is kissing all up on you in public after just meeting you is TROUBLE.[/QUOTE]Is this the girl?

Sorry for the S H and B's that might be missing from my post LOL. Time for a new laptop. All in all I enjoyed Sosua but lessone learned and I never forget a good lesson. And for whoever thinks I'm wham bam thank you mam. I was with the same chica for the first 5 days of my vacation paid for her food she stayed at my hotel even went on the dunebuggy tour with me. Because I felt we had such great chemistry. I was there a week and got with 3 and half chicks half cause of Patricia. All the other girls were quality I'm not all about quantity. I know may guys go there and boast about smashing 10 girls in a week. That's not me. I'm a disrespectful punk. The old G's on here thank you for your wisdom and support and steering us newbies right. Anyone else seriously this board is meant to speak on experiences pics and maybe warn one another about the bad chicas and even praise the good ones which soon as I find my dam sd card I will post pics of this one girl who sucked me into submission. I was curled up on the corner of the bed like a Fetus. LOL

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1190695]Is this the girl?[/QUOTE]Yup that's her allright. Tatted all over specially across the chest like a prison inmate.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1190704]Yup that's her allright. Tatted all over specially across the chest like a prison inmate.[/QUOTE]She looks different in the video. I spent some time with her and I thought she was a fun gal. I watched her in Latino for 4 nights, and then the last night I was alone and that's when I met her.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1190673]Navdude, don't listen to the BS these guys are giving you, you did nothing wrong. The truth is, that B*tch is crazy as hell! Patricia probably has the absolute worst reputation in Sosua! Damn near any vet in Sosua will tell you straight up "Stay the hell away from her, she is nothing but trouble!" I have talked to her and I really think she is bi-polar or has some serious mental issues. I know guys who have been with her and then the next day she will tell them that "they used to be married in a former life and that he is her soul mate! She will kill any giorl that she sees him talking to!", all types of crazy shit! I am glad you had a good time down there and that she didn't try to cut you and you didn't have to get the police involved.[/QUOTE]Thanks man I'm over It mean I still dislike the ***** but over it wil post pics and vids of the other great girls I spent with later tonight.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1190521]I take this *ag to get dinner in a taxi and back to my place. I start to pound away for 20 or 30 minutes hard like a mutha. She came twice. After 30 minutes she start to get up and leave I say I didn't even come and we agreed to chill the entire time. She says oh you on viagra. I'm fucking 26 * what the fuck I need that for and I know dudes twice my age who don't need it or need to use it to pound a * like you. I'm athletic and built this * starts to say give me all my 300o pesos which to e honest is overpaying by 1500 pesos mind you for any. Makes a scene at the new Garden.[/QUOTE]I don't know this girl.

I could have told you for free that most girls in Sosua don't like going with a guy who bangs away for 30 minutes and can't come. It is no fun for her, and may leave her bruised or sore. Probably she faked the orgasms in the hope it would stimulate you enough to come.

If you have a problem it is best to explain to the girl in advance, so that at least she knows what she is getting into. Also best to agree ahead of time on a price. Both can be discussed at the same time.

Read a copy of the Kama Sutra before you come back next time.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1190673]Navdude, don't listen to the BS these guys are giving you, you did nothing wrong. The truth is, that B*tch is crazy as hell! Patricia probably has the absolute worst reputation in Sosua! Damn near any vet in Sosua will tell you straight up "Stay the hell away from her, she is nothing but trouble!" I have talked to her and I really think she is bi-polar or has some serious mental issues. I know guys who have been with her and then the next day she will tell them that "they used to be married in a former life and that he is her soul mate! She will kill any giorl that she sees him talking to!", all types of crazy shit! I am glad you had a good time down there and that she didn't try to cut you and you didn't have to get the police involved.[/QUOTE]Yea man thanks. I have too much to lose then to be bothered by a chic.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1190716]I don't know this girl.

I could have told you for free that most girls in Sosua don't like going with a guy who bangs away for 30 minutes and can't come. It is no fun for her, and may leave her bruised or sore. Probably she faked the orgasms in the hope it would stimulate you enough to come.

If you have a problem it is best to explain to the girl in advance, so that at least she knows what she is getting into. Also best to agree ahead of time on a price. Both can be discussed at the same time.

Read a copy of the Kama Sutra before you come back next time.[/QUOTE]LMAO. This one chic was like "papi no mas no mas tu es el diablo" after 3 hours of pounding.

Here you go fellas.

[QUOTE=Navdude; 1190521]So I have a wonderful week in DR. Met beatiful women did alot of excursiions I. E. Horse, diving, duneuggies. My last night I wanted a banger. I run into Patricia (tatted up chick in front of classicos. At first didn't think much of it. Now I know any chick that is kissing all up on you in public after just meeting you is TROUBLE.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0xiV20BkbU[/url][/QUOTE]How many times do me and Mr. Enternational have to warn you guys about this chica, LOL? She's been crazy since March of '09 (when I met her; the chest tats are new) and I'm going to go out on a limb and guestimate that she will only become crazier as time progresses.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1190581]

The guys I typically see getting played the most in Sosua are the ones that are black and built, especially if they have a bald head. [/QUOTE]

I'm Black and sport a bald head, but I hardly see how that has to do with anything. The chick is straight-up crazy, pure and simple. If you received the royal treatment when you met her then it probably was on a day that she wasn't coked-out or something. Her craziness comes and goes. As you can tell from the pics I banged this chick at two different time periods in one day. I got a glimpse of her psychosis the first round, but she didn't go full-blown psychotic until later that night.

And for the record, I've been to Sosua 5 times, bang at least 7-8 different chicas each trip, and Patricia is the only chica I've ever had a problem with in Sosua. And no, I'm not from NYC, lol. But I am not going to go as far as advocating a "boycott". Her head-game (slang for "oral skills for the rest of you, lol) is supreme! She'd be a very cool-ass chica to hang with if she gets some meds. I'm pretty sure she is bi-polar.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1190673]Navdude, don't listen to the BS these guys are giving you, you did nothing wrong. The truth is, that B*tch is crazy as hell! Patricia probably has the absolute worst reputation in Sosua! Damn near any vet in Sosua will tell you straight up "Stay the hell away from her, she is nothing but trouble!" I have talked to her [b]and I really think she is bi-polar[/b] or has some serious mental issues. I know guys who have been with her and then the next day she will tell them that "they used to be married in a former life and that he is her soul mate! She will kill any giorl that she sees him talking to!", all types of crazy shit! I am glad you had a good time down there and that she didn't try to cut you and you didn't have to get the police involved.[/QUOTE]

I made my post before reading yours. Great minds think alike, lol!

[QUOTE=Navdude;1190702]Sorry for the S H and B's that might be missing from my post LOL. Time for a new laptop. All in all I enjoyed Sosua but lessone learned and I never forget a good lesson. And for whoever thinks I'm wham bam thank you mam. I was with the same chica for the first 5 days of my vacation paid for her food she stayed at my hotel even went on the dunebuggy tour with me. Because I felt we had such great chemistry. I was there a week and got with 3 and half chicks half cause of Patricia. All the other girls were quality I'm not all about quantity. I know may guys go there and boast about smashing 10 girls in a week. That's not me. I'm a disrespectful punk. The old G's on here thank you for your wisdom and support and steering us newbies right. Anyone else seriously this board is meant to speak on experiences pics and maybe warn one another about the bad chicas and even praise the good ones which soon as I find my dam sd card I will post pics of this one girl who sucked me into submission. I was curled up on the corner of the bed like a Fetus. LOL[/QUOTE]don't think I was coming down on you hard playa. But you never explained the good points of your trip which were more interesting to me than some loca chica. I knew you were a respectful dude when you said you wanted a TLN and were willing to over pay for it. But one thing us veterans love is a newbie trip report. I would have loved to hear about the dune buggy ride. Don't worry about your grammar because most of us will get it. Sure you will have some dudes who won't take the time to understand, but we will explain to them. Also you need to explain to girls like Frannie says, before they get into you. And also bro you got to use lube and work slowly (no hard fucking) to get the girls into it. Its not about wrecking pussy, but about good lovemaking.

Hello, All. This will be my 8th trip to the DR but it will be my FIRST trip to Sosua. I only have 3 nights to enjoy. I will be there 9-15 untill 9-18. Starting off with a Thursday night.

I have a question for all, including the likes of Nightwhaler, Frannie and Dr. Sexalot among others. If YOU where ME. Knowing what you know NOW after experiencing Sosua. How would you spend those days and nights? What Chicas would you recommend?

If any fellow mongers are around during this time First three drinks are on me. I would like to have an experience so that I can contribute to the forum.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1190759]How many times do me and Mr. Enternational have to warn you guys about this chica, LOL? She's been crazy since March of '09 (when I met her; the chest tats are new) and I'm going to go out on a limb and guestimate that she will only become crazier as time progresses.[/QUOTE]I don't believe I have been thinking about this chick for two days straight and I get on here and y'all are talking about her. I'm going down next week and I got to find her. I'm just going to tell her straight up. Baby I know you are crazy, but you got some good ass pussy. And she should know by now that I'm only going to give her 1,000 pesos.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1190810]I don't believe I have been thinking about this chick for two days straight and I get on here and y'all are talking about her. I'm going down next week and I got to find her. I'm just going to tell her straight up. Baby I know you are crazy, but you got some good ass pussy. And she should know by now that I'm only going to give her 1,000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Mr. E,

She hangs out at Latino from about midnight on. PM me for more pics. Actually, I really like the girl, a tad crazy, but aren't we all. Living in Pattaya and hanging out in Sosua, dude, that is living!

Trip Report Day 6: Seis Mil Pesos.

Me and the girls slept in real late. Had to make haste before the bank closes. Figure I had to take care of Starr, Bubbly and Dazzler for making my Bday a memorable one. We all got dress and made it to bank just in the nick of time.

CH: hey Junior you know a place where I can get a quick shape up.

Junior: it's one close to banco popular.

CH: Ok cool.

Since dazzler lives intown I drop her off first. Get out the car gave her a hug and slid her some bread. She counts the bread.

Dazzler: Me want seis mil peso!

CH: you want 6000 pesos? B%$# have you lost your got damn mind.

I gave her the look of when Ceasar was stab in the back by his best friend Brutus.

CH: Et tu, Dazzler? Et tu?

I'll be damn. Dazzlers an undercover hardcore puta. She slides the money back to me.

Dazzler: ok me want $5000 pesos.

CH: Get the FUCK out of HERE.

I just slid you some bread (3500peso) which is VERY generous BTW and your telling me its not enough. FUCK THIS B%$# Where not in my villa where on the street now so your antics don't mean shit to me. I take my money and goes back in the car.

CH: Junior! VAMANOS.

Dazzler runs and jump in the back with Starr and Bubbly.

CH: WTF! Junior STOP THE CAR.

All of a sudden I see Starr and Bubbly cussing Dazzler out. They gave the universal "be& have you lost your mind" look. U don't have to know Spanish to understand what the fuck is going on. Finally after Starr and Bubbly rips her a new one she accepts my terms.

Dazzler: Puta.

CH: Pindeho! Get the fuck out of my car and get the stepping.

Seis mill pesos! Am I in the States right now or Sosua.

CH: That's your girl Bubbly.

Bubbly: Lo siento mi amor! Chica loco.

We in the barbershop right now and both the girls are apologizing profusely.

CH: ok ok mi amor! I know it wasnt your fault. Silencio AHORA! I like to get my cut in peace.

Barber starts to work his magic.

CH: Cuantos?

Barber: $150 pesos!

CH: That's IT! WOW! Here's double for the shape-up.

Ahh now what's next! Had made a promise I would give back to the kids of the land but wanted to get something to eat first.

Junior: Boss why not hit up Costambar beach for lunch.

CH: Fuck it why not.

We get to the beach and place our order with the local establishment. As we wait for our food.

CH: Seis mill pesos! Fuck out of here.

Everyone starts to laugh! Yeah true craziness indeed. We get our food and all is well.

Finally it was time we hit the store.

CH: Hey Junior you drive this time. I got plans for Bubbly in the back seat.

Starr is upfront in the passenger car so it's just me and Bubbly in the back. Bubbly know what I want and without hesitation she unzips my pants and commenced to put those soft lips on ol mighty Joe. She stayed bobbin away till we got to the store. Wanted to "deposit in her mouth" as my man Jao would say but at this point I'm shooting dust.

Anyway we get inside and the store is nice. Looks like a big ass walmart. The girls start to pickup toys forfor the young ones but there being picky about the toys.

CH: What's wrong?

Bubbly: toys muy expensivo.

CH: I don't care. Get the toys for them.

Bubbly: Ok Mi amor.

Bill came to a few dollars over $150 dollars which was almost equivalent to the 6000 pesos that the broad was asking for earlier.

CH: Hey Junior you think it's ok to use my debit card here?

Junior: Yeah your cool! U should have no problems here.

CH: Cool.

It was getting late so we figure it be best if we pass out the toys mañana. Told Junior to drive back to the villa. Ooh and Starr you NOW come in the back. Yaw know what I'm thinking.

ML: SWITCH.

Damn you Starr for knowing how to please a man. Toes don't curl, toes don't curl. GOT DAMNIT my toes start to curl. I gota cum at this point. Fuck this! Woman take those pants off and come sit on my lap. She stops me!

Starr: No glove no love!

CH:WTF! WOW! Umm ok.

To this point every time I had sex with Starr or Bubbly I had a condom on. Hell every time I switch with them I had to put on a new condom. My condoms where getting low and to be honest condoms SUCK!

CH: Ok Starr! So how can I ease your troubles.

She tells me that WE all Me, Her and Bubbly get tested first. Umm ok!

CH:Hey Junior is there a place where we all can get tested.

Junior: There's a medical center not to far from Casa Linda.

Hmmm! Ima keep that in mind. Now back down on ol mighty Joe as I ponder.

Something is very different about Starr. She hasn't yet fooled around and gas me up saying she loves me like the rest do. She's handling the little things behind the scene like cleaning up etc and she has the balls to stop me and request for a test first. Hell there's plenty of females in the states who wouldn't have done that so I had NO choice but to RESPECT her even more! A true Starr indeed.

Finally we get back to the villa and just relax for the rest of the night. Was more then content to just play with Starr&Bubbly but I had a feeling that tomorrow I might be granting Starrs request.

Trip Day Report 7: Make the Call = Drunk Santa

[QUOTE=Posenergy; 1190795]I have a question for all, including the likes of Nightwhaler, Frannie and Dr. Sexalot among others. If YOU where ME. Knowing what you know NOW after experiencing Sosua. How would you spend those days and nights? What Chicas would you recommend? .

If any fellow mongers are around during this time First three drinks are on me.[/QUOTE]I would try to avoid excessive drinking.

I don't recommend any particular chicas. Whatever takes your fancy. Generally if they are interested in you, you will probably do better, as chicas have certain types of guys they prefer, but only take that as a general guideline. Having just come back after two months in Sosua, I have one piece of advice which probably won't help, but here it is-try not to overdo the sex! Three good sex sessions in three days may be more rewarding than trying to have sex three or four times a day under the influence of Viagra wth a whole bunch of chicas. Also try to find some kind of non-sex oriented activity for some of the time.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1191029]I would try to avoid excessive drinking.

I don't recommend any particular chicas. Whatever takes your fancy. Generally if they are interested in you, you will probably do better, as chicas have certain types of guys they prefer, but only take that as a general guideline. Having just come back after two months in Sosua, I have one piece of advice which probably won't help, but here it is-try not to overdo the sex! Three good sex sessions in three days may be more rewarding than trying to have sex three or four times a day under the influence of Viagra wth a whole bunch of chicas. Also try to find some kind of non-sex oriented activity for some of the time.[/QUOTE]I apologize Frannie, I should given more background / Clarity. First, My offer for the first three drinks was not for me it was for whom ever. I have a 1 drink MAX. I am the type of person that has to be AWARE at all times. Plus, CHEMISTRY is #1 when it comes to choosing a Wife / Girlfriend / puta etc. And being drunk (IMO) takes away from the Natural chemistry you have with said person. (NO CHEMISTRY would be like fucking a DUMMY on a hot plate. _-)

The advice you had for me was great because I had that same plan. Not into sport fucking. NO Need! I'm 42 and in great shape for my age so NO PILLS for me. When I run out of leche. It's a rap.

Thanks again Frannie for your advice.

I feel bad for her. I've heard so many horror stories about her from you guys and the dominicans on the strip. I was just in sosua and I saw her in Latinos. Now on my prior trip I banged her and promised to be with her and all that. She took it to the heart and wanted me to go to santiago with her. Trying to get me to pack my bags one morning and hop caribe tour. She tried to convince me to give her a baby "no thank you, condom please". She stayed with me 2 days straight and abandon latinos. I didn't pay for most of it. I brought her some pizza and beer "even though she don't really drink". Ultimately I just wanted a girl friend experience. When I left I didn't tell her. So This trip I was there just walking around site seeing. Sosua for me is more about the place then the women. She was dressed like a soccer mom. Baggy sweats, hair done in some terrible braids, and non flattering sandles. She was upset with me. She trailed me the entire time I walked around sosua looking at the buildings and landscape. She asked why didn't I tell her I was leaving. She said she was packed up and was going back to santiago. I was actually not interested and very cold towards her. I told her I was in santo domingo and she wanted to come. She just wanted to lay beside me. I said I wasnt horny and she said she didn't want to have sex. I rubbed her butt and she got upset. I left her at latinos as I headed to my taxi. I feel bad because she just a lost girl. I don't usually sympathize but I felt bad when I rode off. I have 50 missed calls on my domincan phone from her. I never got any problems out of her. Actually I couldn't pay her to leave. No disrepect, no arguments and didn't really ask for money. I don't remember the sex. I usually screw non stop and don't remember any of my experiences. Just an endless cycle of condoms and showers. The guys at new garden are amazed by me. A fellow monger told me don't burn out. I did. Patricia is already being boycotting. Everyone hates her. Only newbies pick her up. She stands in latinos all night alone.

I have a great relationship with the guys on the strip. All the domincans that speak english know me and hang with me. They keep me posted on whats happening. I also make sure I take care of them. Beers. 200 pesos hell I even paid for a chicas at CMP. Sounds like alot but in return no one bothers me. They salute me when I show up. The same for boca chica. Remember all the people that get hurt there fall victim because they disrepect the people. That arrogant mentality will get you killed. I had bad experiences but let it go. Its only money and your not in a familiar atmosphere.

I'll never go back and report to a chica about what I read here so don't worry. I have an absolutely beautiful picture of her. No nude shots. Ultimately I'm done with her. I never do the same girl twice. Just wanted to chime in about her. Tell my story.

[QUOTE=Navdude;1190728]Here you go fellas.[/QUOTE]Beautiful ass on that chica, thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Posenergy; 1191062]I apologize Frannie, I should given more background / Clarity. First, My offer for the first three drinks was not for me it was for whom ever. I have a 1 drink MAX. I am the type of person that has to be AWARE at all times. Plus, CHEMISTRY is #1 when it comes to choosing a Wife / Girlfriend / puta etc. And being drunk (IMO) takes away from the Natural chemistry you have with said person. (NO CHEMISTRY would be like fucking a DUMMY on a hot plate. _-)

The advice you had for me was great because I had that same plan. Not into sport fucking. NO Need! I'm 42 and in great shape for my age so NO PILLS for me. When I run out of leche. It's a rap.

Thanks again Frannie for your advice.[/QUOTE]Good.

The only other advice I would have is take your time when choosing a chica. Remember that basically they are in it for the money, and if they enjoy the sex it may be a bonus for them, but it isn't the primary motivator. So it is easy to be disappointed when you get a girl to the bedroom and the sex is ho-hum.

The last night I was in Sosua I really wasn't in the mood for sex at all. I was in a lot of pain with sciatica for which I had injections from the doctor in Sosua, and I could hardly walk. On the other hand it was my last night alone in Sosua, so I went and had a look around, and didn't feel any urge to go with any of the girls, so I went home again. Later on, around 1:00 a. M. I thought what the hell and decided to pick some girl at random, so I got dressed and went (limped) out again to see if I could find a girl. Again I didn't really feel attracted to any of them, however one girl smiled at me and she seemed interestested, so I decided to take her. She was of average height, with bizarre dyed red hair, and wearing a short skirt with patterned fishnet tights. She was a little stockier than I usually go for, but she said she was 20 and had no kids. She was Haitian.

When we got to the room, she went in the bathroom and took a shower, then came out butt naked (she looked pretty decent without clothes) and we sat down on the sofa and talked a bit. She told me that her mother and aunt were killed in the earthquake last year. They were at home cooking in the kitchen when the house came down. She survived and got out with a gash on her head (she showed me the scar of the suture line on her forehead) and her mother and aunt were both killed. I said I had been in Haiti shortly after the earthquake and had taken many photographs which I had on my computer including some of me treating wounds. She asked if she could see them, so I showed her some, although not the most gruesome. We then went in the bedroom and she made love like an angel. She told me I was "lindo", which means "pretty" in Spanish, which is quite a compliment seeing that I am 60 and she 20. Afterwards as she was getting ready to go she said "te quiero" which means "I love you" (steady on there, girl!) and gave me several hugs and kisses. I didn't have the heart to tell her I was leaving the next day. So overall it was a very rewarding experience, and I would be very happy to see her again.

The thing is, you never really know what you are getting into. A chica may not look like much at first glance, but if you get to know her you may find that there is a real person inside the puta exterior.

And I have already forgotten her name, though I will know her if I see her.

[QUOTE=Frannie;

A chica may not look like much at first glance, but if you get to know her you may find that there is a real person inside the puta exterior.[/QUOTE]Soulful! The holy grail of life and love.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 11909759]How many times do me and Mr. Enternational have to warn you guys about this chica, LOL? She's been crazy since March of '09 (when I met her; the chest tats are new) and I'm going to go out on a limb and guestimate that she will only become crazier as time progresses.

I'm Black and sport a bald head, but I hardly see how that has to do with anything. The chick is straight-up crazy, pure and simple. If you received the royal treatment when you met her then it probably was on a day that she wasn't coked-out or something. Her craziness comes and goes. As you can tell from the pics I banged this chick at two different time periods in one day. I got a glimpse of her psychosis the first round, but she didn't go full-blown psychotic until later that night.

And for the record, I've been to Sosua 5 times, bang at least 7-8 different chicas each trip, and Patricia is the only chica I've ever had a problem with in Sosua. And no, I'm not from NYC, LOL. But I am not going to go as far as advocating a "boycott". Her head-game (slang for "oral skills for the rest of you, LOL) is supreme! She'd be a very cool-ass chica to hang with if she gets some meds. I'm pretty sure she is bi-polar.

I made my post before reading yours. Great minds think alike, LOL![/QUOTE]don't worry SavePro yo boy Deepmmpactt and Mandingo Al gunna hunt that crazy puta down,

Like Predator and conquer that puta Patricia, I'm gunna unleash the Chocolate Jack Hammer,

On her crazy ass, I'm gunna spin around and grab my nuts like Michael Jackson while I'm smashing.

Her. If she don't kill my stupid ass. I'm gunna check her feet like Eddie Murphy in Boomerang,

Cause if her toes aint sexy, then my foot fetish gunna be pissed. LOL. And hell yes I'm in good.

Shape, but I pop cialis like. Vitamin see. (LOL) It like getting paid without working 40hrs. Boing.

So the hell with the guys who act like the don't need it. I do. LOL, I want to appologize for.

My horrible sentence structure, I report from a droid phone, so its a ***** reporting to you.

Guys. But honestly, I'm a glutten for punishment, but I got to expierience that crazy puta. LOL.

(I hope I don't regret my foolishness Savepro. LOL) Ill consider myself warned. But my power.

Source is supplied by Coolie High quick witted and sharp tongued, my intelligence or lack.

There of is compliments of Mandingo AL aka the Puta Romeo, so El Caballo Negro gunna.

See if she can ride for 8secs, hopefully she realize I'm a 2 minute man. She will have a 2 Minute.

Break to recuperate from 8 hours of Non stop hell. (LOL) I'm obsessed every since you,

Posted that on you tube Savepro, so yo boy Deepmmpactt will invade Latinos in search of.

This Patricia she's gunna be wrecked. Or my dumb ass. Let the hunt begin!

For some of us getting the rocks off is only half the mission. I enjoy feeling a connection when possible. Ya we all know it is abut the denaro but at the end of the day we are all humans. We all like to be treated with respect. When you make a chica feels less a puta and she treat you less like a john it is a beautiful thing. However I understand sport fucking. It can be a lot like masterbating you get your rocks off and that is about it. I generally try to find a chica that I can fuck and talk to. This is not always easy. The Puta world is incredibly competitive. They get rejected all the time. How many guys do they have prop before they connect. These girls have a lot of heart. So I try to be as pleasant as possible when I deal with them. Many times I get a good response which make the deed way more satisfying. One mans view.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1191088]Good.

The only other advice I would have is take your time when choosing a chica. Remember that basically they are in it for the money, and if they enjoy the sex it may be a bonus for them, but it isn't the primary motivator. So it is easy to be disappointed when you get a girl to the bedroom and the sex is ho-hum.

The last night I was in Sosua I really wasn't in the mood for sex at all. I was in a lot of pain with sciatica for which I had injections from the doctor in Sosua, and I could hardly walk. On the other hand it was my last night alone in Sosua, so I went and had a look around, and didn't feel any urge to go with any of the girls, so I went home again. Later on, around 1:00 am I thought what the hell and decided to pick some girl at random, so I got dressed and went (limped) out again to see if I could find a girl. Again I didn't really feel attracted to any of them, however one girl smiled at me and she seemed interestested, so I decided to take her. She was of average height, with bizarre dyed red hair, and wearing a short skirt with patterned fishnet tights. She was a little stockier than I usually go for, but she said she was 20 and had no kids. She was Haitian.

When we got to the room, she went in the bathroom and took a shower, then came out butt naked (she looked pretty decent without clothes) and we sat down on the sofa and talked a bit. She told me that her mother and aunt were killed in the earthquake last year. They were at home cooking in the kitchen when the house came down. She survived and got out with a gash on her head (she showed me the scar of the suture line on her forehead) and her mother and aunt were both killed. I said I had been in Haiti shortly after the earthquake and had taken many photographs which I had on my computer including some of me treating wounds. She asked if she could see them, so I showed her some, although not the most gruesome. We then went in the bedroom and she made love like an angel. She told me I was "lindo", which means "pretty" in Spanish, which is quite a compliment seeing that I am 60 and she 20. Afterwards as she was getting ready to go she said "te quiero" which means "I love you" (steady on there, girl!) and gave me several hugs and kisses. I didn't have the heart to tell her I was leaving the next day. So overall it was a very rewarding experience, and I would be very happy to see her again.

The thing is, you never really know what you are getting into. A chica may not look like much at first glance, but if you get to know her you may find that there is a real person inside the puta exterior.

And I have already forgotten her name, though I will know her if I see her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1191133]For some of us getting the rocks off is only half the mission. I enjoy feeling a connection when possible. Ya we all know it is abut the denaro but at the end of the day we are all humans. We all like to be treated with respect. When you make a chica feels less a puta and she treat you less like a john it is a beautiful thing. However I understand sport fucking. It can be a lot like masterbating you get your rocks off and that is about it. I generally try to find a chica that I can fuck and talk to. This is not always easy. The Puta world is incredibly competitive. They get rejected all the time. How many guys do they have prop before they connect. These girls have a lot of heart. So I try to be as pleasant as possible when I deal with them. Many times I get a good response which make the deed way more satisfying. One mans view.[/QUOTE]Not one mans view, I said the same thing in a post below. Maybe because Frannie explains in more detail, people understand it better. But the point is that I miss the "Old Sosua", where the girls were about trying to lock in and staying with you until you paid them to leave. They made your vacation about YOU. And like you said, a little respect was all they asked.

As far as Patricia, she is fine. But I don't like aggressive chicas. Plus I don't associate with anybody who I think might be hooked on drugs. Patricia always seemed coked out to me. But my boys say she is a freak in bed. One of my boys has a movie and her moaning almost made me bust a nut. The funny part about it is that some guy from this forum is going to go up to her and say she has a bad reputation. In turn she is going to fuck him correct to try to establish her reputation to something positive. Shit! I would even spice it up and say"not only do people think you are crazy but they say you can't fuck". Somebody soon is going to get fucked good very soon by Patricia.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1190234]Now I know how Hugh Hefner in his prime feels like. Problem is I'm soo got damn satisfied that I don't need any more ladies. Fuck if somebody shot me right now I wouldn't care. Dear God: Thank you! The new girl sense that she wasn't going to get a piece of the action went back inside and got her grub on with the other ladies. I'm trying to focus the mind, body and soul in cumin again but it's not happening.[/QUOTE]Spectacular.

One day I have to follow in your foot steps.

Great posts.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1191131]I'm obsessed every since you,

Posted that on you tube Savepro, so yo boy Deepmmpactt will invade Latinos in search of.

This Patricia she's gunna be wrecked. Or my dumb ass. Let the hunt begin![/QUOTE]I'm not the one to credit for posting her video on YouTube. To be honest I don't know where it came from. I met her in March '09 when she was a few pounds lighter (compare the pics I posted to the weight on her in the YouTube video) and I did not do anything with her since then. Plus my video camera never leaves my hotel room.

[b]ATTENTION MR. GOGO[/b]: Did I not just talk with you about this yesterday (LOL)? There's no need for a boycott (as Navdude suggested) ; Patricia will still continue to make loot because no matter how many times we warn people about her, guys are still going to try her out just to say "let me see for myself", LOL. In fact, the more warnings there are about her the more popular she becomes!

[b]ATTENTION MR. ENTERNATIONAL[/B]:

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1190810]I'm going down next week and I got to find her...And she should know by now that I'm only going to give her 1,000 pesos.[/QUOTE]

Homegirl's star is rising fast. You're going to need to tack on a couple thousand more pesos bruh. By the time you get there she'll be wiping her ass with 1000 pesos and if that is all you plan on handing her (1000RD) you just might get stabbed and thrown in jail for complaining to the police about the stabbing! :D

I was wondering, if anyone has expierienced Patricia recently, and what was her asking.

Price? I want to say thanks to Save Pro 321. For his advanced warning, but I want to.

Ahem. Save. This. Pro chica. Patricia on the count of 3. (LOL). Mandingo Al says.

Whats up Savepro. And I thank you, Coolie High and all you veterans for your.

Timely advice, but after I locate this Patricia ill have on a white sequinned glove,

Matching sequinned condom with diamonds, and white socks and black shoes.

On, and black matching hat (in memory of Michael Jackson) Ill start off pounding,

Her crazy ass, then when she screams aye papi. Mi leche. I'm going to yell like.

Michael Jackson for her to Beat it. And I'm going to escape. Off the Wall like a.

Smooth Criminal, she will witness this Thriller ask her friend Billie Jean if she.

Be Wanting to be starting something. I told her You are not Alone, and if the.

Head games is legit. Ill be there.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1191186]Spectacular.

One day I have to follow in your foot steps.

Great posts.[/QUOTE]Hey Jao thanks for reading. Don't know if you notice but I posted Day 6 trip report below. But because of the delay in posting and everybody posting at one time I doubt I if anybody saw my report.

Scroll back down and read my thread about patricia. It will give some insight on her now. In my case anyway.

Last week the manager of the Latino bar / nightclub had the dark glass wall removed again from the street site of his bar. This allows people passing by to have look inside and the people at the bar can watch the street again and see what's happening outside. For some time now you can see that the tourist police (Politur) act more restraint than before.

In late June, a committee under the Ministry of Tourism of Santo Domingo and the Ministry of Health (Salud Público) visited Sosúa. During the inspection tour, the committee members were overwhelmed with complaints from the bar and restaurant owners. Moreover, the committee itself could also see that many bars and restaurants were closed and there was little clientele for those still in business. They decided to suspend their tour of inspection and to go in consultation with Mayor Ilana Neumann and the commander of the Politur. It is certainly true, they were very shocked by the impoverishment of Sosúa. After this Politur acted more restraint than before. Now that the Latino bar is restored again to its former glory we have another example of this more tolerant policy.

thursday morning august 25, sosúa welcomed the new commander of the national police for the district, colonel raymundo de la rosa ogando. in welcoming the commander, representatives of the tourist police, traffic police, air force and the municipal government were present. the colonel is known for his tough approach to crime in different cities of the country. the colonel is lovingly described by his subordinates as 'the man with the cigar', strict but very fair. in his speech, the new commander emphasized that he will be tough on drug-related crime. he called on the gang members to reflect on and improve their lives by finding a paid job and attending a vocational training.

raymundo de la rosa ogando.

the newly appointed commander of the police will replace the departing commander of the national police colonel escolástico díaz.

video: [url]www.youtube.com[/url]

[quote=jfregedie; 1191082]i feel bad for her. i've heard so many horror stories about her from you guys and the dominicans on the strip. i was just in sosua and i saw her in latinos. now on my prior trip i banged her and promised to be with her and all that. she took it to the heart and wanted me to go to santiago with her. trying to get me to pack my bags one morning and hop caribe tour. she tried to convince me to give her a baby "no thank you, condom please". she stayed with me 2 days straight and abandon latinos. i didn't pay for most of it. i brought her some pizza and beer "even though she don't really drink". ultimately i just wanted a girl friend experience. when i left i didn't tell her. so this trip i was there just walking around site seeing. sosua for me is more about the place then the women. she was dressed like a soccer mom. baggy sweats, hair done in some terrible braids, and non flattering sandles. she was upset with me. she trailed me the entire time i walked around sosua looking at the buildings and landscape. she asked why didn't i tell her i was leaving. she said she was packed up and was going back to santiago. i was actually not interested and very cold towards her. i told her i was in santo domingo and she wanted to come. she just wanted to lay beside me. i said i wasnt horny and she said she didn't want to have sex. i rubbed her butt and she got upset. i left her at latinos as i headed to my taxi. i feel bad because she just a lost girl. i don't usually sympathize but i felt bad when i rode off. i have 50 missed calls on my domincan phone from her. i never got any problems out of her. actually i couldn't pay her to leave. no disrepect, no arguments and didn't really ask for money. i don't remember the sex. i usually screw non stop and don't remember any of my experiences. just an endless cycle of condoms and showers. the guys at new garden are amazed by me. a fellow monger told me don't burn out. i did. patricia is already being boycotting. everyone hates her. only newbies pick her up. she stands in latinos all night alone.

i have a great relationship with the guys on the strip. all the domincans that speak english know me and hang with me. they keep me posted on whats happening. i also make sure i take care of them. beers. 200 pesos hell i even paid for a chicas at cmp. sounds like alot but in return no one bothers me. they salute me when i show up. the same for boca chica. remember all the people that get hurt there fall victim because they disrepect the people. that arrogant mentality will get you killed. i had bad experiences but let it go. its only money and your not in a familiar atmosphere.

i'll never go back and report to a chica about what i read here so don't worry. i have an absolutely beautiful picture of her. no nude shots. ultimately i'm done with her. i never do the same girl twice. just wanted to chime in about her. tell my story.[/quote]wow! i'm speechless that was a great heartfelt, keeping it real.

kind of story jfregedie, i appreciate the encounter you had with her, i guess i might need to.

push control, alt, delete, on patricia, and ill just moonwalk my ass down the clisante. lol. but.

damn, that picture of her in that dress, kinda giving me second thoughts. lol! ill be there.

the first of november, to access the infamous patricia, and i promise a detailed report,

on all my highlights, lowlights and no lights at all. and ill try and include pictures also,

of all my conquests, no matter who the chica is, respect and love gets you along way, plus.

a thousand or more pesos, and its a deal.

The way I see it is if this chick is such a maniac and to be avoided at least we can enjoy some pics of her naked or getting fucked. She is still a hot looking chica regardless of how stupid she is. If there is any more pics of her or vids I would love to seem them.

Not sure which is the right forum for this post. I have a free ticket from an airline that only flies to Punta Cana. I have booked a week trip to Punta Cana end of September and am renting a car and driving to Boca Chica to spend a couple of nights (maybe pass through La Romana to check out the famous bar there) and then to Sousa for next 4 nights before returning to Punta Cana. My questions are

1. How are the driving conditions? I know I should stick to driving during the day, how many extra hours to pad, what to watch out for etc? My driving experiences in DR is from Santiago to Sosua (on mountain road and the other highway on the way back) and from Santo Doming to Boca Chica and back. Google maps says Sosua to STI is 2 hrs but both ways it took me an hour or more longer both ways (I am a cautious driver in other words slow. LOL)

2. Does any GPS work for all areas of the DR? I have used ola gps for Santo Domingo and it worked ok and I payed like 12$/day. It adds up for 7 days, so I was wondering if I can get reasonably priced maps to load on a Garmin device for all of DR, and which Garmin device would be ideal (not too expensive). I am also researching DR1 forums, but with experts like JAO I hope for better advice here. The Ola gps last time almost took me to Casa Australia except it screwed up in the last turn which wasn't really too bad since I parked and asked around and it ended up being not too far away.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1191925]Last week the manager of the Latino bar / nightclub had the dark glass wall removed again from the street site of his bar. This allows people passing by to have look inside and the people at the bar can watch the street again and see what's happening outside. For some time now you can see that the tourist police (Politur) act more restraint than before.[/QUOTE]I was just across the street eating with some non-pros that I met at the beach today. Yes the glass is gone but the wall that I guess was behind the glass looks old as hell. They need to paint it or something. Also, there are sliding glass doors now where the club separates from the bar. In addition, there is a sign outside that says Gran Valero Bar & Discoteca. Is it the new name of the place?

And as you said, it doesn't seem like the police are fucking with anybody. There were even some guys backing up the one-way in front of Latino's and they just told them not to do it again. A buddy of mine got a ticket in that same spot before right after they changed it to a one-way.

By the way, someone please come get this waterless barrel of dead fish. I can't get to the pros for all the non-pros.

But it looks like now I am free to go find Patricia!

[QUOTE=Master Yoda;1192186]The way I see it is if this chick is such a maniac and to be avoided at least we can enjoy some pics of her naked or getting fucked. She is still a hot looking chica regardless of how stupid she is. If there is any more pics of her or vids I would love to seem them.[/QUOTE]For future reference please don't come over here with that silly shit. I checked your history to try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I can sum your history up with one word"Boring". I didn't even get to your second page before your silly ways made me give up. We try to make sense here most of the time. Don't contribute to the foolishness.

This GPS website with maps has gotten a good review from another ISG member: "Dominican Republic GPS Map for Garmin Devices, This GPS map will give U-turn by turn directions to your destination using a POI (point of interest) , city point and / or latitude and longitude with the ability to preplan driving destinations before getting into your car. The easy to follow instructions allow you to download and install the map into Garmin Mapsource desktop software and transfer it to your Garmin GPS in minutes. Compatible with ALL Garmin GPS units. This is the most comprehensive GPS map available at such an affordable price!" $49US for a digital download. [url]http://www.gpstravelmaps.com/dominican_republic.php?gclid=CLTj8sy77aUCFaVx5Qod4nXGow[/url]

Nokia has free maps of the Dom Rep, but I don't think I would only want to a have cell phone based GPS. Probably best to stick with a Garmin device.

The main roads in punta cana should be good, I have not been there in years, lots of new development there, I would imagine the roads are nicely paved. The drive from punta cana to Higuey, I have not done.

Higuey is the closest big city to punta cana, going west. I don't think you can head north from punta cana and drive along the north coast to sosua. Seems to me, from punta cana to Sosua, you would have to drive west to Higuey. Punta Cana to Higuey, I have been told is about 40 minutes.

Higuey is a fun town, with at least one large open air puta bar, with rooms. The Basilica (large modern church) is nice, reminded me of a building you could possibly see in a movie like Blade Runner. Some attractive chicas in Higuey. From Higuey, I have driven west to Santo Domingo.

From Higuey (heading to Sosua) , you will drive in the direction of la romana, the road is a two lane country type road (one lane each for moving traffic). Some Dominicans do some crazy passing on that road. The asphalt is in good shape, scenic drive, you will drive past fields with cattle. General advice, if you have not driven on a road before, best not to drive that road at night, in the DR.

On the way to La Romana from Higuey, you will see signs for boca de yuma and bayahibe. Bayahibe is a nice town with about 5 all inclusive hotels. Higuey to La Romana, on a nice sunny day, less than an hour driving. Once in La Romana you can visit Klimax, (last time I drove past it, it was no longer called Scores). The two times I visited that place there were some fine chicas there, some from santiago. Casa de Campo is an expensive gated community in La Romana with some homes that sell for more than $10US million.

After La Romana, you will continue heading west, towards san pedro de marcoris. Good road, some places it is a 4 lane highway, with a new bridge and some continuing new construction on the highway. La Romana to San Pedro de Marcoris, about 40 minutes. From San Pedro de Marcoris, you will continue west, heading towards juan dolio, boca chica and santo domingo. To go to Sosua, you don't have to drive into santo domingo city. You can pick up the new samana highway before entering the main tourist part of santo domingo. The new samana highway will take you to the north coast, where you will turn left and drive west along the north shore, until you reach sosua. (a video showing the new samana highway, the guy is driving towards santo domingo, you will be driving the opposite direction to get to Sosua; [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qSS_YXzhg[/url])

Have plenty of 100 peso bills for the drive. Always good to have loose change in the car, kids usually come and clean the windshield at traffic lights. Buy some windex and paper towels in a supermarket in DR, or bring windex wipes to clean the inside glass, outside glass, mirrors, wiper blades. Cars get dirty quick in DR.

This site lists about every hotel in DR: [url]http://www.hotel-dominican-republic.net/[/url]

You can search that site for hotels in specific cities or towns. You may want to browse through the listings for Higuey and La Romana. You never know, when your car journey may get delayed (maybe you meet some chica and you want to spend more time in a particular town or city; car breaks down; heavy rain that you don't want to drive through, etc). Can be good to know about inexpensive hotels in different towns throughout your journey. Hotel Don Carlos was around $50US per night, decent hotel in Higuey. There are a few decent looking hotels in La Romana for under $100US. In San Pedro de Marcoris, next door to the Jumbo Store there is a decent hotel. In Juan Dolio, Caribe Paraiso is good for the money (under $100US).

Chevrolet Aveo rental car, I don't like. I usually always get the glass / tire insurance with Alamo (my last trip I got two flat tires the same day, neither tire was repairable, with the insurance, alamo came and gave me new tires, without insurance I would have had to pay for two new tires, glass / tire insurance with Alamo is about $4US per day).

A good pair of sun glasses with polarized lenses, can help improve visibility while driving by cutting down on glare, I like the sunglasses made by Native; [url]http://www.sierratradingpost.com/native-eyewear-attack-sunglasses-polarized~p~3331v/?filterString=search~mative-%2F[/url]

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1192209]Not sure which is the right forum for this post. I have a free ticket from an airline that only flies to Punta Cana. I have booked a week trip to Punta Cana end of September and am renting a car and driving to Boca Chica to spend a couple of nights (maybe pass through La Romana to check out the famous bar there) and then to Sousa for next 4 nights before returning to Punta Cana. My questions are

1. How are the driving conditions? I know I should stick to driving during the day, how many extra hours to pad, what to watch out for etc? My driving experiences in DR is from Santiago to Sosua (on mountain road and the other highway on the way back) and from Santo Doming to Boca Chica and back. Google maps says Sosua to STI is 2 hrs but both ways it took me an hour or more longer both ways (I am a cautious driver in other words slow. LOL)

2. Does any GPS work for all areas of the DR? I have used ola gps for Santo Domingo and it worked ok and I payed like 12$/day. It adds up for 7 days, so I was wondering if I can get reasonably priced maps to load on a Garmin device for all of DR, and which Garmin device would be ideal (not too expensive). I am also researching DR1 forums, but with experts like JAO I hope for better advice here. The Ola gps last time almost took me to Casa Australia except it screwed up in the last turn which wasn't really too bad since I parked and asked around and it ended up being not too far away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1191015]Trip Report Day 6: Seis Mil Pesos.

The girls start to pickup toys for the young ones but there being picky about the toys.

CH: What's wrong?

Bubbly: toys muy expensivo.

CH: I don't care. Get the toys for them.[/QUOTE]It appears that your heart is as big or bigger than your appetite for the Chicas.

I applaud your kindness and generosity.

Always invaluable information from Jao and ISG. That was the mapsite I was looking at, let me try it and see how it works. Guess I'll add Higuey as a stop before La Romana. Its also great to know Sosua is getting back to more like the old days.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1192238]This GPS website with maps has gotten a good review from another ISG member: "Dominican Republic GPS Map for Garmin Devices, This GPS map will give U-turn by turn directions to your destination using a POI (point of interest) , city point and / or latitude and longitude with the ability to preplan driving destinations before getting into your car. The easy to follow instructions allow you to download and install the map into Garmin Mapsource desktop software and transfer it to your Garmin GPS in minutes. Compatible with ALL Garmin GPS units. This is the most comprehensive GPS map available at such an affordable price!" $49US for a digital download.

[url]http://www.gpstravelmaps.com/dominican_republic.php?gclid=CLTj8sy77aUCFaVx5Qod4nXGow[/url]

Nokia has free maps of the Dom Rep, but I don't think I would only want to a have cell phone based GPS. Probably best to stick with a Garmin device.

The main roads in punta cana should be good, I have not been there in years, lots of new development there, I would imagine the roads are nicely paved. The drive from punta cana to Higuey, I have not done.

Higuey is the closest big city to punta cana, going west. I don't think you can head north from punta cana and drive along the north coast to sosua. Seems to me, from punta cana to Sosua, you would have to drive west to Higuey. Punta Cana to Higuey, I have been told is about 40 minutes.

Higuey is a fun town, with at least one large open air puta bar, with rooms. The Basilica (large modern church) is nice, reminded me of building you could possibly see in a movie like Blade Runner. Some attractive chicas in Higuey. From Higuey, I have driven west to Santo Domingo.

From Higuey (heading to Sosua) , you will drive in the direction of la romana, the road is a two lane country type road (one lane each for moving traffic). Some Dominicans do some crazy passing on that road. The asphalt is in good shape, scenic drive, you will drive past fields with cattle. General advice, if you have not driven on a road before, best not to drive that road at night, in the DR.

On the way to La Romana from Higuey, you will see signs for boca de yuma and bayahibe. Bayahibe is a nice town with about 5 all inclusive hotels. Higuey to La Romana, on a nice sunny day, less than an hour driving. Once in La Romana you can visit Klimax, (last time I drove past it, it was no longer called Scores). The two times I visited that place there were some fine chicas there, some from santiago. Casa de Campo is an expensive gated community in La Romana with some homes that sell for more than $10US million.

After La Romana, you will continue heading west, towards san pedro de marcoris. Good road, some places it is a 4 lane highway, with a new bridge and some continuing new construction on the highway. La Romana to San Pedro de Marcoris, about 40 minutes. From San Pedro de Marcoris, you will continue west, heading towards juan dolio, boca chica and santo domingo. To go to Sosua, you don't have to drive into santo domingo city. You can pick up the new samana highway before entering the main tourist part of santo domingo. The new samana highway will take you to the north coast, where you will turn left and drive west along the north shore, until you reach sosua. (a video showing the new samana highway, the guy is driving towards santo domingo, you will be driving the opposite direction to get to Sosua;

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qSS_YXzh[/url]

)

Have plenty of 100 peso bills for the drive. Always good to have loose change in the car, kids usually come and clean the windshield at traffic lights. Buy some windex and paper towels in a supermarket in DR, or bring windex wipes to clean the inside glass, outside glass, mirrors, wiper blades. Cars get dirty quick in DR.

This site lists about every hotel in DR:

[url]http://www.hotel-dominican-republic.net/[/url]

You can search that site for hotels in specific cities or towns. You may want to browse through the listings for Higuey and La Romana. You never know, when your car journey may get delayed (maybe you meet some chica and you want to spend more time in a particular town or city; car breaks down; heavy rain that you don't want to drive through, etc). Can be good to know about inexpensive hotels in different towns throughout your journey. Hotel Don Carlos was around $50US per night, decent hotel in Higuey. There are a few decent looking hotels in La Romana for under $100US. In San Pedro de Marcoris, next door to the Jumbo Store there is a decent hotel. In Juan Dolio, Caribe Paraiso is good for the money (under $100US).

Chevrolet Aveo rental car, I don't like. I usually always get the glass / tire insurance with Alamo (my last trip I got two flat tires the same day, neither tire was repairable, with the insurance, alamo came and gave me new tires, without insurance I would have had to pay for two new tires, glass / tire insurance with Alamo is about $4US per day).

A good pair of sun glasses with polarized lenses, can help improve visibility while driving by cutting down on glare, I like the sunglasses made by Native;

[url]http://www.sierratradingpost.com/native-eyewear-attack-sunglasses-polarized[/url]

P 3331v? FilterString=Native be 14082%2F.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1192220]I was just across the street eating with some non-pros that I met at the beach today. Yes the glass is gone but the wall that I guess was behind the glass looks old as hell. They need to paint it or something. Also, there are sliding glass doors now where the club separates from the bar. In addition, there is a sign outside that says Gran Valero Bar & Discoteca. Is it the new name of the place?

And as you said, it doesn't seem like the police are fucking with anybody. There were even some guys backing up the one-way in front of Latino's and they just told them not to do it again. A buddy of mine got a ticket in that same spot before right after they changed it to a one-way.

By the way, someone please come get this waterless barrel of dead fish. I can't get to the pros for all the non-pros.

But it looks like now I am free to go find Patricia![/QUOTE]It is actually big news the new police commander and such. It seems the mayor is losing the battle of driving the working girls out of Sosua, back to old times and 200 girls each night.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1192313]It is actually big news the new police commander and such. It seems the mayor is losing the battle of driving the working girls out of Sosua, back to old times and 200 girls each night.[/QUOTE]Sorry to object here Sir. It is possible that the change in Officers was because the outgoing Commander got to relaxed (paid off). Until we see groups of girls freely walking around during the day then we will know the "Old Sosua" is back. Lets go over it.

Seacrets closed. Four Roses and Domino bar empty day and night. Latinos empty till the disco behind the bar opens after midnight (mostly Dominican). La Roca closed. The beach empty. NewGardens is empty early in the week. La Passions holding steady. CMP a ripoff. Rumba and El Flow are hit and miss. Lous Shark closed.

Everything is feeding off the weekend Classicos crowd. Shut down Classicos and poof, there goes Sosua. Sosua has been reduced to a weekend party. Sosua still has adventure but the limited GFE will reduce it to girls coming for the quick weekend bucks.

Only the hardcore girls are operating there now. And the newbreed of ex Brazil guys are just as hardcore. Actually I found earlier in the week to be better than the weekend. The girls were more flexible because there were less dudes. They (the girls) have come to look at earlier in the week as bonus money till they wait on the free spending weekend crowd that only wants to fuck for an hour. But as I said before its a setup. One big fight in Classicos or one major event and the crackdown will have justifacation to shut it down. Sosua is all about Classicos currently, will Classicos last?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1192220]I was just across the street eating with some non-pros that I met at the beach today.[/QUOTE]Misnomer? :D

Have fun. Bang hard. Take pics.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1192377]Misnomer? .

Have fun. Bang hard. Take pics.[/QUOTE]I had a great time in the local bars in Higuey it was worth the stop.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1192238]This GPS website with maps has gotten a good review from another ISG member: "Dominican Republic GPS Map for Garmin Devices, This GPS map will give U-turn by turn directions to your destination using a POI (point of interest) , city point and / or latitude and longitude with the ability to preplan driving destinations before getting into your car. The easy to follow instructions allow you to download and install the map into Garmin Mapsource desktop software and transfer it to your Garmin GPS in minutes. Compatible with ALL Garmin GPS units. This is the most comprehensive GPS map available at such an affordable price!" $49US for a digital download.

[url]http://www.gpstravelmaps.com/dominican_republic.php?gclid=CLTj8sy77aUCFaVx5Qod4nXGow[/url]

Nokia has free maps of the Dom Rep, but I don't think I would only want to a have cell phone based GPS. Probably best to stick with a Garmin device.

The main roads in punta cana should be good, I have not been there in years, lots of new development there, I would imagine the roads are nicely paved. The drive from punta cana to Higuey, I have not done.

Higuey is the closest big city to punta cana, going west. I don't think you can head north from punta cana and drive along the north coast to sosua. Seems to me, from punta cana to Sosua, you would have to drive west to Higuey. Punta Cana to Higuey, I have been told is about 40 minutes.

Higuey is a fun town, with at least one large open air puta bar, with rooms. The Basilica (large modern church) is nice, reminded me of a building you could possibly see in a movie like Blade Runner. Some attractive chicas in Higuey. From Higuey, I have driven west to Santo Domingo.

From Higuey (heading to Sosua) , you will drive in the direction of la romana, the road is a two lane country type road (one lane each for moving traffic). Some Dominicans do some crazy passing on that road. The asphalt is in good shape, scenic drive, you will drive past fields with cattle. General advice, if you have not driven on a road before, best not to drive that road at night, in the DR.

On the way to La Romana from Higuey, you will see signs for boca de yuma and bayahibe. Bayahibe is a nice town with about 5 all inclusive hotels. Higuey to La Romana, on a nice sunny day, less than an hour driving. Once in La Romana you can visit Klimax, (last time I drove past it, it was no longer called Scores). The two times I visited that place there were some fine chicas there, some from santiago. Casa de Campo is an expensive gated community in La Romana with some homes that sell for more than $10US million.

After La Romana, you will continue heading west, towards san pedro de marcoris. Good road, some places it is a 4 lane highway, with a new bridge and some continuing new construction on the highway. La Romana to San Pedro de Marcoris, about 40 minutes. From San Pedro de Marcoris, you will continue west, heading towards juan dolio, boca chica and santo domingo. To go to Sosua, you don't have to drive into santo domingo city. You can pick up the new samana highway before entering the main tourist part of santo domingo. The new samana highway will take you to the north coast, where you will turn left and drive west along the north shore, until you reach sosua. (a video showing the new samana highway, the guy is driving towards santo domingo, you will be driving the opposite direction to get to Sosua;

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qSS_YXzhg[/url]

)

Have plenty of 100 peso bills for the drive. Always good to have loose change in the car, kids usually come and clean the windshield at traffic lights. Buy some windex and paper towels in a supermarket in DR, or bring windex wipes to clean the inside glass, outside glass, mirrors, wiper blades. Cars get dirty quick in DR.

This site lists about every hotel in DR:

[url]http://www.hotel-dominican-republic.net/[/url]

You can search that site for hotels in specific cities or towns. You may want to browse through the listings for Higuey and La Romana. You never know, when your car journey may get delayed (maybe you meet some chica and you want to spend more time in a particular town or city; car breaks down; heavy rain that you don't want to drive through, etc). Can be good to know about inexpensive hotels in different towns throughout your journey. Hotel Don Carlos was around $50US per night, decent hotel in Higuey. There are a few decent looking hotels in La Romana for under $100US. In San Pedro de Marcoris, next door to the Jumbo Store there is a decent hotel. In Juan Dolio, Caribe Paraiso is good for the money (under $100US).

Chevrolet Aveo rental car, I don't like. I usually always get the glass / tire insurance with Alamo (my last trip I got two flat tires the same day, neither tire was repairable, with the insurance, alamo came and gave me new tires, without insurance I would have had to pay for two new tires, glass / tire insurance with Alamo is about $4US per day).

A good pair of sun glasses with polarized lenses, can help improve visibility while driving by cutting down on glare, I like the sunglasses made by Native;

[url]http://www.sierratradingpost.com/native-eyewear-attack-sunglasses-polarized~p~3331v/?filterString=search~mative-%2F[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I haven't been to Higuey in 4 years, you made me homesick. Please keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1192238]Have plenty of 100 peso bills for the drive. Always good to have loose change in the car[/QUOTE]You can tell this was written by a rich American. 100 peso bills are loose change? I give one to my girlfriend to feed the three of us for a day!

Seriously, great post Jaosousa. You certainly went the extra mile to help that guy.

How can we persuade Mr Jackson to restore paragraph breaks? Long posts are so hard to read since he "upgraded" (=downgraded) the software.

Whoever said dominican cupid was a great place to meet hot women was on the money. I've meet some very hot chicas ranging from Santiago to santo domingo. It helps if your half way good looking and of a decent age LOL. But I highly recommend for guys who don't want to search or want to know the girls first.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1192226]For future reference please don't come over here with that silly shit. I checked your history to try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I can sum your history up with one word"Boring". I didn't even get to your second page before your silly ways made me give up. We try to make sense here most of the time. Don't contribute to the foolishness.[/QUOTE]Why not check my profile again before coming out with such moronic comments. I contribute mostly to the African forum. Anyway for more important news.

Last week the manager of the Latino bar / nightclub had the dark glass wall removed again from the street site of his bar. This allows people passing by to have look inside and the people at the bar can watch the street again and see what's happening outside. For some time now you can see that the tourist police (Politur) act more restraint than before.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1192371]Only the hardcore girls are operating there now. And the new breed of ex Brazil guys are just as hardcore.[/QUOTE]That's what several girls were complaining of. Brazil nuts.

[QUOTE]Actually I found earlier in the week to be better than the weekend. The girls were more flexible because there were less dudes.[/QUOTE]Agree with this too.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1192371]Sorry to object here Sir. It is possible that the change in Officers was because the outgoing Commander got to relaxed (paid off). Until we see groups of girls freely walking around during the day then we will know the "Old Sosua" is back. Lets go over it.

Seacrets closed. Four Roses and Domino bar empty day and night. Latinos empty till the disco behind the bar opens after midnight (mostly Dominican). La Roca closed. The beach empty. NewGardens is empty early in the week. La Passions holding steady. CMP a ripoff. Rumba and El Flow are hit and miss. Lous Shark closed.

Everything is feeding off the weekend Classicos crowd. Shut down Classicos and poof, there goes Sosua. Sosua has been reduced to a weekend party. Sosua still has adventure but the limited GFE will reduce it to girls coming for the quick weekend bucks.

Only the hardcore girls are operating there now. And the newbreed of ex Brazil guys are just as hardcore. Actually I found earlier in the week to be better than the weekend. The girls were more flexible because there were less dudes. They (the girls) have come to look at earlier in the week as bonus money till they wait on the free spending weekend crowd that only wants to fuck for an hour. But as I said before its a setup. One big fight in Classicos or one major event and the crackdown will have justifacation to shut it down. Sosua is all about Classicos currently, will Classicos last?[/QUOTE]Respectfully Mr. Gogo your lost GFE didn't make Latino's close in the front, the mayor did, the cleanup of Sosua the mayor and Politur are responsible. The closed door meeting with the head of tourism, no it wasn't the ex-Brazil guys it was the mayor and it wasn't pleasant. A couple weeks ago the mayor had meeting with Sosua buisness owners, no they weren't happy either. Now new Police cheif and Latino's is back the way it was this week. It is big news new Politur and Latino's front getting taken down cause it shows the mayor losing her power in last couple weeks. Now the Mayor hides more than the putas because noone likes her. As far as the Police cheif getting paid off please list someone who isn't on the take in the DR I would like to know who it is. LOL

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1192391]You can tell this was written by a rich American. 100 peso bills are loose change? I give one to my girlfriend to feed the three of us for a day!

Seriously, great post Jaosousa. You certainly went the extra mile to help that guy.

How can we persuade Mr Jackson to restore paragraph breaks? Long posts are so hard to read since he "upgraded" (=downgraded) the software.[/QUOTE]100 peso bills are usually easier to come by, than 50 peso bills. The new Samana highway has at 3 least tolls (peaje). I have read on some toll booths in the DR, that the maximum denomination bill they will take is 100 pesos (I doubt it is very strictly enforced, but if you can avoid any headaches at the toll plaza, the better). If a guy driving a 5 hour or more trip, if he can stop quickly and buy a soda or snack and pay with a 100 peso bill (you know how it is, to pay with larger bills and sometimes you have to wait a while for change, with luggage and valuables sitting in the car).

If I thought 50 peso bills could be easily obtained, I would have suggested having a bunch of 50 peso bills. 100 pesos you can give to a motoconcho guy if you get lost driving and the motorcycle guy shows you the way (driving behind him, especially if a tourist's Spanish is not great and he doesn't understand spoken direction; doble=dub blay=turn; zamaforo=traffic light; direcha=right; izquierda=left; direcho=straight; cerca=close; lejo= lay ho = far; Direccion por Sosua? Porfavor. I have paid motoconcho guys to show me the way, while I drive behind them.

Flat tires or other car problems, you can be pay to have repaired using 100 peso bills.

I'll try to visit Puerto Plata in September.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1192430]Respectfully Mr. Gogo your lost GFE didn't make Latino's close in the front, the mayor did, the cleanup of Sosua the mayor and Politur are responsible. The closed door meeting with the head of tourism, no it wasn't the ex-Brazil guys it was the mayor and it wasn't pleasant. A couple weeks ago the mayor had meeting with Sosua buisness owners, no they weren't happy either. Now new Police cheif and Latino's is back the way it was this week. It is big news new Politur and Latino's front getting taken down cause it shows the mayor losing her power in last couple weeks. Now the Mayor hides more than the putas because noone likes her. As far as the Police cheif getting paid off please list someone who isn't on the take in the DR I would like to know who it is. LOL[/QUOTE]My prediction: In the. Next two months Classicos will be shut down as we now know it. Police will start a new crack down. And a major crime will happen. All this before Thanksgiving. Or as you say 200 girls running around happy and tricking. If I'm wrong in a couple months I will admit guilt here. As always respectfully yours.

Trip Day Report 7: Make the Call = Drunk Santa

Woke up around 12 and everyone got dress and ready to go.

Junior: Boss where we heading too.

CH: Take me to the medical center. Me and the girls are going to put our cards on the table and get tested.

Now I know what some of yaw are thinking.

FORUM MEMBERS: Is Coolie High CRAZY.

CH: You muthafucking right!

Hell other then anal and girls playing with each other we've already did every freak nasty shit you can think of so fuck it why not get tested. As we were driving to the medical center I wanted to see if any of the girls would back out but sure enough these girls are down.

CH: Well our be damn. These broads got more balls then alot of dudes I know.

Junior: Boss don't take this wrong but your nutz LOL.

Fuck it! Where here. We goes in and the process is very simple. Takes no more then 30mins. There testing for HIV and I believe gonerrhea and chlamydia. The test cost 800pesos (21. 19usd) per person. So I wounded up paying 2400peso for the 3 of us.

It's a blood test which means they got to use a huge ass needle to take your blood and ol Coolie was up first. Had to lead by example and show no fear. BOOM I'm done. Starr goes next. BOOM she's done. And then Bubbly starts crying.

Bubbly: I'm scared of needles!

CH: mi Amor it's not that bad. Ima hold your hand. Matter of fact just look away while he's taking your blood.

Although Bubbly kept crying she stayed strong and just like that we were all done. Test results would be available in a few hours. Cool.

CH: Hey I'm curious, who owns the Medical Center.

Junior: Armondo.

CH: Got damn the same cat that owns Classicos?

Junior: Yep! That's the one.

CH: This muthafucker owns everything LOL.

Moving on it was time to me up with my man TomJackin. He's been putting in work in the Tijuana and and Pattaya section on ISG for years and it was time we meet. He was staying at the newgarden so my entourage and I met up with him downstairs for some drinks. Where telling mongers stories and I tellem what me and the ladies did for breakfast.

Tijuana: your fucking nutz LOL! So what happens if someone turns up positive.

CH: Well I guess that means where all fucked LOL.

Truth often comes in jest gents. So after a few more rounds of drinks me and TomJackin get a little hungry. He tells me of an a Italion restaurant right across the street from TerraLinda. Cool I'm down. We place our order and I decided that me and TomJackin should celebrate the good life with a shot. Not a good idea.

Tijuana: WTF? This is not vodka. This is Sambuca.

CH: Fuck it.

CH & Tijuana: SALUTE!

2nd shot. 3rd shot. 4shot. Hell Bubbly wanted to be down so she got a shot. She was done after that.

CH: want to another shot.

Tijuana: MAKE THE CALL.

And just like that another shot of Sambuca was brought to us.

Tijuana: U ready for another one.

CH: MAKE THE CALL.

Where eating good food and taking shots after shots celebrating life as if the world was ours. And it was.

CH: Ok how about one more.

Tijuana: MAKE THE CALL.

My dumb ass decides to tell the waitress to fill the WHOLE shot glass-up with sambuca. It was three shots in one glass.

CH&Tijuana: SALUTE!

The shot got me off my seat and into the street.

CH: GOT DAMN I felt that. WTF is wrong with us.

Tijuana: Yeah I felt that one as well LOL.

Afterwards TomJackin decides to shut it down a few ticks. He's stumbling to his hotel and I'm stumbling to my car. That's what I get for trying to out drink a sailor.

CH: FUCK ME! I forgot we got to take these toys to the kids.

Junior: Yeah the boxes are still in the back of the trunk.

CH: FUCK IT! Lets do this.

I guess the kids are going to be calling me Drunk Santa. We drive to the medical center first to get our results.

CH: You see that! NEGATIVE. Now come and do the Kid&Play dance move with me.

Starr&Bubbly: QUE?

CH:Nada mi amors. Te querio.

Everyone's test results was good which mean we can carry-on with all the freak nasty shit. Ooh I got plans for tonight. That's if I'm not still passed out.

We finally get to Starr and Bubbly barrio. The kids start forming around the back of truck. I had Junior pass out the toys while I chill in the cut. The kids are happy and I'm holding back tears. This is what it's all about gents. Giving back to the place that's given much to you.

Afterwards there were still some kids that didn't get a toy.

CH: Junior tally up how many kids that didn't get a toy and we'll go and get some more.

Junior: I'm on it

5mins later.

Junior: 20 more kids.

CH: k cool!

Junior: Boss I got to warn you no matter what it'll never be enough. Your going to have kids from other barrios come when next time you bring more toys.

CH: We do what we can! VAMANOS.

We all load up and drive back to the walmart in Puerto plata. I'm REALLY feeling that sambuca right about now. We get to the place and I tell Junior and the ladies to pick the toys out and come get me when it's time to pay the bill. I needed a quick nap.

I'm snoring in the suv with the AC on blast.

Starr: Mi Amor wakeup! La cuenta.

CH: Ok ok! Uno momento

I'm stumbling out the car like a drunken wineo. Damn you TomJackin and that fucking sambuca. U got me off my Coolie high. Now I'm stumbling and bumbling holding onto to Starr as I pay the bill. The bill came to a little over a $100 dollars. But I didn't care. I just want to shut it down a few ticks.

They decided to take me straight home so I can rest. We'll give out the rest of the toys tomorrow. Finally we made it back to the villa

CH: AHH YES! Come here you sexy thing you. God I miss you.

Starr&Bubbly: QUE?

CH: SHHHHH! I'm talking to the pillow. Sweat dreams!

Trip Report Day 8: The Sweetest Taboo Returns coming soon

[QUOTE=Master Yoda; 1192409]Why not check my profile again before coming out with such moronic comments. I contribute mostly to the African forum. Anyway for more important news.

Last week the manager of the Latino bar / nightclub had the dark glass wall removed again from the street site of his bar. This allows people passing by to have look inside and the people at the bar can watch the street again and see what's happening outside. For some time now you can see that the tourist police (Politur) act more restraint than before.[/QUOTE]Your second sentence is correct. So if you ever see me do my first post in the Africa forum, and I'm begging guys to post nudes and videos, you can fell free to chew my ass. But I would never dis the guys already posting there like that.

Also I have to say I kinda liked the dark glass at Latinos. It allowed me to hide out. Girls usually had to stick their heads in to see who is there. I think Latinos felt stupid being the only establishment to have complied. HB 69 is correct that either the Mayor has to step up or step back. My money is that they will step up.

From today's Sosua News:

Tuesday, August 16, all over the country, the 'Dia de la Restoration', was celebrated, commemorating that 148 years ago, Dominican freedom fighters led by the folk hero Gregorio Luperóand, expelled the Spanish conquerors from the country.

This national holiday is also used by the government to account for its policy of the previous year. There was also a meeting at City Hall in Sosúa with Mayor Ilana Neumann accounting for her policy. At this meeting the commanders of the national police, tourist police, air force, fire brigade and the parish priest and pastor of the church authorities were present. The mayor mentioned a number of objectives that have been achieved under her leadership since August 16, 2010. She mentioned the construction of a basketball field, the new park Mirador, the renovation of the fire equipment, the construction of the water system at La Mina Los Castillos, the establishment of a free prostitution zone, the placement of billboards for extra income and improvement of regulations for land use.

While the mayor enumerated these achievements loud sirens sounded outside the city hall in the street. Two fire trucks came forward. The Mayor had the windows open and reported that she purchased the two fire engines recently. The mayor made $ 20, 000 available for the purchase. The owner of the water company 'Agua Sasino' Mr David Kersteman, eventually made the purchase possible with a large donation. Then the mayor mentioned a number of social programs that were performed through her mediation. The dental and medical students from the University of Santo Domingo were willing to provide free medical care for poor residents of Sosúa. Also free medication and bandages could be provided. The municipality also supported literary conferences, the facilities of the library, and festivities of the Evangelical and Catholic Church. Furthermore, they rented rooms where classes in dance, music, painting and exhibitions will be given.

At the end of the presentation the mayor called on all kinds of repair work, also funded by the municipality. She named repairs to the ambulance, road construction and road maintenance machinery and trucks. Finally, a financial statement was handed out in which the municipality accounts for the expenditure and income of the municipality.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1192506]Trip Day Report 7: Make the Call = Drunk Santa

I'm stumbling out the car like a drunken wineo. Damn you TomJackin and that fucking sambuca. U got me off my Coolie high. Now I'm stumbling and bumbling holding onto to Starr as I pay the bill. The bill came to a little over a $100 dollars. But I didn't care. I just want to shut it down a few ticks.

CH: AHH YES! Come here you sexy thing you. God I miss you.

Starr&Bubbly: QUE?

CH: SHHHHH! I'm talking to the pillow. Sweat dreams![/QUOTE]If it is any consolation, I hate sambuca! So if we ever meet at that Italian restaurant again, I will bring a bottle of tequila instead. I spent that afternoon with the NG girl and I'll be damned if I remember much of it whatsoever.

As I mentioned before, giving back to the kids like that, you have big heart!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1192580]If it is any consolation, I hate sambuca! So if we ever meet at that Italian restaurant again, I will bring a bottle of tequila instead. I spent that afternoon with the NG girl and I'll be damned if I remember much of it whatsoever.

As I mentioned before, giving back to the kids like that, you have big heart![/QUOTE]Hey I'm not too fond of that sambuca either but if we meet again at that restaurant we have to take a shot of it. It would only be fitting LOL. Hey but thanks again. I try to give back when I can. Seeing smiling faces on the little ones as we pass out toys to them made my trip worth while.

The Mayor has been hiding there was full page article in Sosua news 3 weeks ago stating it. Supporters? I doubt she has many now that town is hurting. Due to the decline in tourism, the closed sugar cane mill and job losses in the Zona Franca and the dairy and meat factory 'Productos Sosúa', many residents of Sosúa are unemployed not to mention the closed bars and restauraunts. She did fine job balancing the budget, buying fire trucks, picking up the trash but her thinking would eventually starve everyone in town with her monger dollar don't mean shit policy. Apparently the saggy boobed Euro chics didn't come in with their huge spending habits and fill in for the lost mongers.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1192629]The Mayor has been hiding there was full page article in Sosua news 3 weeks ago stating it. Supporters? I doubt she has many now that town is hurting. Due to the decline in tourism, the closed sugar cane mill and job losses in the Zona Franca and the dairy and meat factory 'Productos Sosúa', many residents of Sosúa are unemployed not to mention the closed bars and restauraunts. She did fine job balancing the budget, buying fire trucks, picking up the trash but her thinking would eventually starve everyone in town with her monger dollar don't mean shit policy. Apparently the saggy boobed Euro chics didn't come in with their huge spending habits and fill in for the lost mongers.[/QUOTE]A like hearing your views, because they make me think. And you are correct most of the time. Your last sentence is what I believe also. The Euros came in with a big plan and money to initially back it up. But they got lost in the scuffle. Or either their money dried up. What happened to the surfing competition in May. What happened to the planned arts festival. Even my last trip the Russians were few and far. But the damage has already been done. Buisiness closing, hotels empty and yes, I miss my GFE man LOL. Lets see if girls are allowed to hang out during the day, that will be our barometer.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1192543]From today's Sosua News:

Tuesday, August 16, all over the country, the 'Dia de la Restoration', was celebrated, commemorating that 148 years ago, Dominican freedom fighters led by the folk hero Gregorio Luperóand, expelled the Spanish conquerors from the country.

This national holiday is also used by the government to account for its policy of the previous year. There was also a meeting at City Hall in Sosúa with Mayor Ilana Neumann accounting for her policy. At this meeting the commanders of the national police, tourist police, air force, fire brigade and the parish priest and pastor of the church authorities were present. The mayor mentioned a number of objectives that have been achieved under her leadership since August 16, 2010. She mentioned the construction of a basketball field, the new park Mirador, the renovation of the fire equipment, the construction of the water system at La Mina Los Castillos, the establishment of a free prostitution zone, the placement of billboards for extra income and improvement of regulations for land use.

While the mayor enumerated these achievements loud sirens sounded outside the city hall in the street. Two fire trucks came forward. The Mayor had the windows open and reported that she purchased the two fire engines recently. The mayor made $ 20, 000 available for the purchase. The owner of the water company 'Agua Sasino' Mr David Kersteman, eventually made the purchase possible with a large donation. Then the mayor mentioned a number of social programs that were performed through her mediation. The dental and medical students from the University of Santo Domingo were willing to provide free medical care for poor residents of Sosúa. Also free medication and bandages could be provided. The municipality also supported literary conferences, the facilities of the library, and festivities of the Evangelical and Catholic Church. Furthermore, they rented rooms where classes in dance, music, painting and exhibitions will be given.

At the end of the presentation the mayor called on all kinds of repair work, also funded by the municipality. She named repairs to the ambulance, road construction and road maintenance machinery and trucks. Finally, a financial statement was handed out in which the municipality accounts for the expenditure and income of the municipality.[/QUOTE]Where might this be?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1192451]My prediction: In the. Next two months Classicos will be shut down as we now know it. Police will start a new crack down. And a major crime will happen. All this before Thanksgiving. Or as you say 200 girls running around happy and tricking. If I'm wrong in a couple months I will admit guilt here. As always respectfully yours.[/QUOTE]I'm going to surpass Sosua this time and just hang out in SDQ with seasoned mongerer Jaosousa. It's kinda sad but I think the Mayors agenda is a lost one. At the end the people don't give a shit where the money comes from just that the money cums. Still when the smoke clears Sosua will be left with a black eye and take a while to go back to the way it was. Sometimes it's good to lose what was had to appreciate it. Anyways Mr. G I know you've hung out with Jaosousa so just let'm know I'm cool brother! We got to hang out again, it's been a while!

[QUOTE=Sabor;1192640]I'm going to surpass Sosua this time and just hang out in SDQ with seasoned mongerer Jaosousa. It's kinda sad but I think the Mayors agenda is a lost one. At the end the people don't give a shit where the money comes from just that the money cums. Still when the smoke clears Sosua will be left with a black eye and take a while to go back to the way it was. Sometimes it's good to lose what was had to appreciate it. Anyways Mr. G I know you've hung out with Jaosousa so just let'm know I'm cool brother! We got to hang out again, it's been a while![/QUOTE]My main man, player of the year Sabor. Last night my Santo Domingo girl called me crying saying that I haven't been to see her in almost a year. I got caught up in the moment and promised her a Juan Dolio romantic weekend. So I'm looking to hit SD soon text me what dates your looking at. You and Jao would be a good team because you both have giving personalities. I haven't forgot about our Medellin trip but the prices on flights just kills my mood to want to travel.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1192371]Lets go over it.

Seacrets closed. Four Roses and Domino bar empty day and night. Latinos empty till the disco behind the bar opens after midnight (mostly Dominican). La Roca closed. The beach empty. NewGardens is empty early in the week. La Passions holding steady. CMP a ripoff. Rumba and El Flow are hit and miss. Lous Shark closed.

Everything is feeding off the weekend Classicos crowd. Shut down Classicos and poof, there goes Sosua. Sosua has been reduced to a weekend party. Sosua still has adventure but the limited GFE will reduce it to girls coming for the quick weekend bucks.

Only the hardcore girls are operating there now. And the newbreed of ex Brazil guys are just as hardcore. Actually I found earlier in the week to be better than the weekend. The girls were more flexible because there were less dudes. They (the girls) have come to look at earlier in the week as bonus money till they wait on the free spending weekend crowd that only wants to fuck for an hour. But as I said before its a setup. One big fight in Classicos or one major event and the crackdown will have justifacation to shut it down. Sosua is all about Classicos currently, will Classicos last?[/QUOTE]I gotta agree with this 100%. I got here on Monday. Tuesday night when I went into Latino's (looking for Patricia who is nowhere to be found) about 1am there were 5 people. There was one guy dancing with a girl who he had brought and 3 other girls. There was nobody at the bar outside and a bunch of Dominican guys were shooting pool. Last night there were hardly any mongers at the bar in front of Classico. One monger was negotiating with a chica and he told her,"Okay. You know it is Wednesday night." I butted in and said,"You can go home broke if you want to."

But whether it was mongering that was holding this place together or what the demise of it is I do not know. This hotel has 40 rooms for mongers and for the last couple of days I have been signing chicks in and realizing that only one other person is signing people in. Well yesterday I started banging one of the hotel employees (non-pro / more on that later) and she told me that Tuesday only 13 of the 40 rooms were occupied and the hotel has not paid them in over a month. And when she is only making 3,600 pesos a month that is a damn shame. She said when Armando was running the place they never had a problem getting paid.

Don't get me wrong, you will have no problems mongering or getting pussy at the beach in the daytime if you know how to open your mouth and talk to people, but the place is dead in reference to tourist that will bring revenue to the businesses. You can sit at the beach and watch the whole day and see that 9 out of 10 of the businesses there will not get 1 customer. And another new girl who I am banging that runs one of the huts said that the rent for the place is 15,000 pesos / month. Well she made about 450 off of me and my friend yesterday. She did not have any other customers.

I don't know though. When I checked in to the hotel the other day the manager told me she was getting ready for high season. She said it was October - March. So maybe it is just a seasonal / cyclical thing.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1192391]How can we persuade Mr Jackson to restore paragraph breaks? Long posts are so hard to read since he "upgraded" (=downgraded) the software.[/QUOTE]Sir Charles, the paragraph breaks only work in Firefox. I went for the longest on Explorer pissed off about no paragraph breaks as well until someone in another thread said that was the case.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1192681]I don't know though. When I checked in to the hotel the other day the manager told me she was getting ready for high season. She said it was October - March. So maybe it is just a seasonal / cyclical thing.[/QUOTE]I agree. The crackdown took place last December, which was supposed to be when High Season was to begin to kick into full gear, and the arrests continued well past March (the end of High Season) and we were even hearing of arrest taking place as late as June. What Sosua has done during that time frame is the equivalent of Wal Mart shutting its doors before the Christmas holiday shopping season, opening them back up after the 4th of July, and expecting their former customers (who have long since been diverted to Target or Costco) to come running back with open arms (which would not happen). There is no doubt that the crackdown taking place during this time period was intentional, but I believe we are starting to see the power structure there recognizing that this was a dumb move that they (Sosua) may not recover from for a long time. Even dumber was the move to implement all of this during an economic downturn (and what might end up becoming a double-dip recession). Higher fuel prices translating into higher airfare isn't helping the North Coast either, especially since airfare to SDQ is far cheaper. I have been to Sosua during the month of December and a couple of times during the month of March pre-crackdown (2008-2010), and the place was always hopping. May and October not so much so, but not nearly as dead as what is currently being reported. But we'll just have to wait and see what the Mayor and the New Police Chief have in store for us this December. If they really want mongers to return then they'd better start advertising soon, because as another member stated:

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1192629]Apparently the saggy boobed Euro chics didn't come in with their huge spending habits and fill in for the lost mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1192681]I don't know though. When I checked in to the hotel the other day the manager told me she was getting ready for high season. She said it was October - March. So maybe it is just a seasonal / cyclical thing.[/QUOTE]I hope it is seasonal. I was in Sosua in February and I really loved it. It was my first time in DR and I am hooked to it. There were plenty of people and girls all over the place and particularly at night. I do not know how it was before in Sosua, I read here that it was even better. In any case, I just loved it as it is. I mostly go to Germany FKKs and I think quality of service is generally higher there, on the average. However, tropical island beach in February mixed with nice and willing girls is what life is worth living for.

I will try to go there again in Feb. After reading Coolie High reports, I can hardly wait for Feb to come by. Hope to meet some of you guys there.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1192683]Sir Charles, the paragraph breaks only work in Firefox. I went for the longest on Explorer pissed off about no paragraph breaks as well until someone in another thread said that was the case.[/QUOTE]It still exists. What with Firefox, Chrome or even Opera.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1192634]Where might this be?[/QUOTE]LOL.

In the Mayor's imagination or in her culo, who knows. (prostitution free zone in Sosua)

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1192771]LOL.

In the Mayor's imagination or in her culo, who knows. (prostitution free zone in Sosua) [/QUOTE]It was a free prostitution zone, not a prostitution free zone. I guess she meant the idea was that prostitution was confined to one area.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1192443]100 peso bills are usually easier to come by, than 50 peso bills. The new Samana highway has at 3 least tolls (peaje). I have read on some toll booths in the DR, that the maximum denomination bill they will take is 100 pesos (I doubt it is very strictly enforced, but if you can avoid any headaches at the toll plaza, the better). If a guy driving a 5 hour or more trip, if he can stop quickly and buy a soda or snack and pay with a 100 peso bill (you know how it is, to pay with larger bills and sometimes you have to wait a while for change, with luggage and valuables sitting in the car).

If I thought 50 peso bills could be easily obtained, I would have suggested having a bunch of 50 peso bills. 100 pesos you can give to a motoconcho guy if you get lost driving and the motorcycle guy shows you the way (driving behind him, especially if a tourist's Spanish is not great and he doesn't understand spoken direction; doble=dub blay=turn; zamaforo=traffic light; direcha=right; izquierda=left; direcho=straight; cerca=close; lejo= lay ho = far; Direccion por Sosua? Porfavor. I have paid motoconcho guys to show me the way, while I drive behind them.

Flat tires or other car problems, you can be pay to have repaired using 100 peso bills.

I'll try to visit Puerto Plata in September.[/QUOTE]That was very thoughtful of you Jao. Again, we are all united due to our hobby but otherwise to each his own. You certainly go the extra mile to help others.

I guess its good to have a car now that if Sosua sucks, I don't have to stay and can head off to Santiago or Blackbeards. But somehow I still believe Sousa has something to offer until I see the demise myself, because it seems like again, everyone has their own take. My main deal was Classicos at night and a few daytime options. I am not really into La passion or CMP. I know daytime action is dead but if I can set up something with chicas I see in Classico, maybe get their phone numbers, that will work for me. I am even game with NG chicas during the day if they are still there. So, until its completely dead, I may still visit there once a year or so. It still a nice and relaxed beach town. I monger in CR and Panama but can't get the easy feeling that Sousa offers (minus the hawkers at the beach).

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1192662]My main man, player of the year Sabor. Last night my Santo Domingo girl called me crying saying that I haven't been to see her in almost a year. I got caught up in the moment and promised her a Juan Dolio romantic weekend. So I'm looking to hit SD soon text me what dates your looking at. You and Jao would be a good team because you both have giving personalities. I haven't forgot about our Medellin trip but the prices on flights just kills my mood to want to travel.[/QUOTE]Second week in September, from the 14, we will be there. Should be fun. DR is always fun, some trips are more fun than others, but always a good time.

I bought some $5 shirts from Aeropostale to give as gifts. Aeropostale is popular in DR. I bought a few $5 bikini tops and bottoms from aeropostale to give as gifts (clearance section of the aeropostale website, use promo code SALE30 to take 30% off clearance prices through September 5).

Should be interesting who gets the bikinis. The bottoms were only available in size extra small (could be an interesting site, to see a chica with a big ass squeeze into a small bikini bottom, LOL).

I'm going to skip old grandma's bed stories, but in short Sos. Is alive and kicking and just re-established herself in the past year as a working town. Yeah, major hooking has shifted one hour later, with a Merengue / Club 59 parade at midnight when Clasico's disco is opened. 'After One' is, well, after three. 2 pm to 6 pm. Scooping beach talent. 6 pm to midnight. El Flow / Rumba / Bermudas triangle. Midnight to 3 am. Merengue and Clasico's or Bar Central if it is what you like. Later After One. Plenty fifteen hundred peso's available. And read my lips: Young. Slim. Haitian. Short Time. Having more than one dick won't hurt either.

[QUOTE=Questner;1193228]Plenty fifteen hundred peso's available. And read my lips: Young. Slim. Haitian. Short Time.[/QUOTE]1,500ST from Classicos or outside? LT?

Me and a friend who lives in Sosua did a slow roll past Belkis Wednesday when a less than desirable (IMHO) girl sitting out front came running over to the car. She gave me this flyer and invited me in for a massage. She said a massage was 500. I said what if I want more than a massage. She said that I could get a happy ending for an extra 500. I asked her what if I did not want a massage but just wanted the happy ending. She said it would be 500 plus tip. I told her the only tip I would be giving was the "tip of this diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick." Then I drove off. And with it being 100 degrees outside the place did not appear to have any A / C to speak of.

P.S. How many women named Belkis have salons in that country? I passed about 10 (severe exaggeration) Belkis Salons on the drive from Sosua to Boca Chica.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1193296]How many women named Belkis have salons in that country? I passed about 10 (severe exaggeration) Belkis Salons on the drive from Sosua to Boca Chica.[/QUOTE]Mr. E, Let's deal with a more important issue. Did you find and smash Patricia?

The mayor must have out a big "H" in the sky to summon the girls to Sosua! I was in Classicos last nigth and it was fucking packed with new girls that I had not seen in the past 3 weeks! They must know that it is a big holiday weekend for us Americans and came into town to make money! Unfortunately, there are a ton of guys in town this weekend too.

[QUOTE=Questner;1193228]I'm going to skip old grandma's bed stories, but in short Sos. Is alive and kicking and just re-established herself in the past year as a working town. Yeah, major hooking has shifted one hour later, with a Merengue / Club 59 parade at midnight when Clasico's disco is opened. 'After One' is, well, after three. 2 pm to 6 pm. Scooping beach talent. 6 pm to midnight. El Flow / Rumba / Bermudas triangle. Midnight to 3 am. Merengue and Clasico's or Bar Central if it is what you like. Later After One. Plenty fifteen hundred peso's available. And read my lips: Young. Slim. Haitian. Short Time. Having more than one dick won't hurt either.[/QUOTE]Finally someone to tell it like it is. Great post! Was beginning to smell like doom & gloom from some of reports.

Looking really fwd to my 2nd trip to Sosua, as I also just booked my Halloween trip to San Jose. But couldn't wait that long so took a chance booking Sosua 14 to 18 Sept. Hopefully between tropical storms or hurricanes!

Plan to be at the Black Box for BBQ on Thursday it they still have it.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1193441]The mayor must have out a big "H" in the sky to summon the girls to Sosua! I was in Classicos last nigth and it was fucking packed with new girls that I had not seen in the past 3 weeks! They must know that it is a big holiday weekend for us Americans and came into town to make money! Unfortunately, there are a ton of guys in town this weekend too.[/QUOTE]That's good to hear. For what I would always hear from other mongers Labor Day weekend is always a big thing in Sosua. Chicas are using texting these days so it's no surprise that they can spread the word quickly among themselves. I hope this trend continues for the Thanksgiving holiday and the month of December!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1193296]Me and a friend who lives in Sosua did a slow roll past Belkis Wednesday when a less than desirable (IMHO) girl sitting out front came running over to the car. She gave me this flyer and invited me in for a massage. She said a massage was 500. I said what if I want more than a massage. She said that I could get a happy ending for an extra 500. I asked her what if I did not want a massage but just wanted the happy ending. She said it would be 500 plus tip. I told her the only tip I would be giving was the "tip of this diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick." Then I drove off. And with it being 100 degrees outside the place did not appear to have any A / C to speak of.[/QUOTE]That was not very polite. The girls at Belkis' are all very pleasant. I have never known 100 degrees in Sosua. On hot sunny days the hot air rises sucking in cooler air from the ocean as a cooling breeze. Belkis' place is 150 yards from the seafront. They have electric fans inside Belkis' place.

You can't expect to get something for free. Each time a girl does a massage she has to pay a room rental to Belkis before she gets anything for herself.

I have had superb massages there with happy ending and have paid 600 pesos including tip within the last month. You are supposed to NEGOTIATE, not just insult people.