Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2651291]Sure, those German health authorities have no idea. Let's look at deaths per million people so far: Germany 1379, Switzerland 1435, Austria 1530, France 1935, UK 2215, USA 2611, a lot of Balkan countries with more than 4000. I would say the Germans did pretty well in relative terms.

Wellcum, big whoop, they just reopened.[/QUOTE]Are you sure booster will prevent from being positive? When boosted and no test, there will be many positive spreading in brothels and bringing back at home, when for how long is efficient booster? When already starting to tell about second booster, so 4 doses in 1 year, never ending story. More safe for me to test, You are positive, You can t enter, more efficient to slow spreading, than many positive boosted. When Omicron will spread more and more in Germany, I think more safe for boosted and negative test for risky playfield brothels.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2650756]I partially agree with you but the above stuff used to be the case. Things are changing. The far right dunderheads in the US find more common cause with Putin and Russia than W EU. China is allies w / no body. China / Xi. Putin bromance is at best a mutual interest convergence between authoritarian regimes but temporary. In the longer run, RU will always be at risk from China. Siberia is already being overrun with Chinese workers. Chinese workers in RU are like Mexican and LatAM immigrants in the US. RU's population is declining and it is a tenth the size of China and much weaker technologically and economically. Barring their nuclear weapons, etc. RU is a 3rd rate country, certainly in an economic sense. Their biggest firms are all in the energy and materials sectors in MSCI. That puts them in the same bracket as the LatAM countries and other 3rd world countries.

RU is a more sophisticated version of NK. It is about blackmailing the rest of the world with their nuclear weapons. At least RU has energy and that sustains their economy to some extent. But all the advanced countries create economic value through intellectual property, RU is still digging stuff out of the ground to eke out a living..[/QUOTE]I kinda agree with you. Though the left in the west is making a mistake at trying to alienate Russia labelling it far right. Geopolitically speaking it is wise to team up with Russia against China. I am sure it can be done, though what is happening in Ukraine is not helping. Though both sides are equally dumb there.

Europe can potentially unite further also, but I think that will rely on UBI. I have heard so much regarding different culture from all sorts of wannabe experts, yet I am still not buying it. It is all about the economy! From Catalonia or Wales to Dresden or Hungary. Sicilia or Basquerland. I know this because the EFTA trade agreements are a far far bigger deal than useless political control both in Norway, Iceland, UK and France. Only filthy rich people claim it is about culture.

The idea is what Merkel once requested, to take the best from all European countries and standardize that across the continent. Unfortunately she started at the wrong end. What she should have done was start with the educational sector and focus on Finland as the example. In order to take focus away from Germany.

When it comes to Russia, EU, USA and even now the filthy CCP with their racist sauna clubs, most innovation comes from public private partnerships. USA has DARPA. So far, the rest of the world don't. That is what brings USA the edge. That and the ownership structure in silicon Valley with stock options and retarded amount of money available. Much higher in tech than in other disciplines. Europe and elsewhere doesn't have that.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2651368]Viking country and should be run by me..[/QUOTE]In Viking times you would have been an unmarried Orm [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9uRaW-wVLM&t=74s[/URL].

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651415]Most of your aliases were before my time on this site and I went with what others said. In my searches, I remember you were accused by Cane at that time as being Caneupp. If that was not you, so be it.

I don't go out out of my way to pick argument with anyone. This particular instance w / you is one of the few examples where I initiated the back and forth. With Cane, Neuro, Gino, whoever, in every single instance they were the first to reply to one of my comments (in which they were not referenced) in an aggressive way. Yes, I don't put up with shit like that but I also don't attack anyone on my own. You however, will always want the first and last say in every altercation; in almost all the hissy fits involving me, you did take the first shot and the last. After a while there is no point and I walk away, but you have a compulsion to have both. Your view is that regardless of whatever nonsensical crap you dish out, the other person should passively put up. Since that does not happen, you keep up running feuds with numerous members, and lasting years, even decades.

Yes, it takes 30 sec, we all know; the difference, as Siri pointed out, is that most people create new ones after they are banned but you are the only one I know who has a bunch of them ready and waiting because you know you will get banned, and you know it because you enjoy getting in the mud and your only regret is that the moderator and the world don't accept your tantrums. And it was hypocritical for you to say you were not hiding; up until this week, you did isolate the two nicks somewhat carefully; the tone is also very different. Until a week ago, Escape Artist was mild, muted, to the point, and on topic. This week, Escape Artist has the inner Murse unleashed and will be Murse-part 2 (or Takedown-3, or something else-4; I haven't done that much research to figure out).[/QUOTE]Making one's own assessment seems more respectable than listening to hearsay of random you don't know.

Don't go out of your way but yet here you are, going back and forth, insults and all with the same people I do only saving the arguments with the bottom feeders (you know who) likely because of some enemy of my enemy mentality.

Pfft, last EA post was 3 years ago. Like I said, attempt at an moderated account. Believe what you want but seems researching all of my posts which you have extensively done, would have taken up a lot more time than making accounts.

Lastly, Brevity.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651417]No, not for brothels when I got JJ only on November after my Summer tour and I think I was very right, but I just buy my freedom when I need valid pass and even now with ARN booster on 15 February. Even sweet Omicron for You, but whole Western EU, Israel push for booster, now even telling about second booster, vaccination for 6 yo children, when more than 200 daily deaths in France, more than 300 in UK, more than 2000 known in US, high arithmetics figures for me and not finished when US will have more than 1 million known when they can t know all among 50 millions ghosts. You claim Omicron is not a killer, but still so many deaths when Omicron is around 80% new cases now, more than under flu or cold, too many for my arithmetics, when also many schools are closed in France, many hospitals are full, delaying other operations like cancer. I really wonder why Hessen closed now brothels when in my 50's but I had more than 30 visits in FKK land, being not vaccinated, surviving under killer delta on Summer when I adviced my Sharks supermodel to get Biontech proposed by Sharks, but they closed again under Omicron, when they didn't under killer delta on Summer. Same like when You claimed vaccine would stop spreading, not even before delta and Omicron, when UK spread 1 year ago in whole Western EU. Is it not true? For me, vaccine is just to protect weak when many mistake thinking they are more strong than they really are, also to protect hospitals and medical not to explode, but getting me sick when I survived on 2020 and 2021, in brothels and working on the field, not from my bed.[/QUOTE]Yeah whatever, brothels or travel. Apparently you don't think much of the need for vaccination either, yet here you are, claiming the sky is falling, not really acting on the same advice you dish out. Hypocrisy.

Also, brevity.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651415]I don't go out out of my way to pick argument with anyone. This particular instance w / you is one of the few examples where I initiated the back and forth. With Cane, Neuro, Gino, whoever, in every single instance they were the first to reply to one of my comments (in which they were not referenced) in an aggressive way. Yes, I don't put up with shit like that but I also don't attack anyone on my own.[/QUOTE]Somebody's posts (including your own) might be considered to be provocative, controversial, offensive, aggressive, etc without anybody being specifically referenced in them. That's not a requirement to warrant a strong response to what one says in a public forum. It doesn't have to be about "me" or any particular person (s) here per se. But we're all reading, and have the right to respond if so moved to do so. And if one takes personal offense to somebody strongly objecting to or challenging what they themselves have assertively put forth in a public forum, then it would be best to just keep their opinions to themselves, especially if they involve a sensitive subject.

But if they choose not to do that, and instead proceed, then a firefight could indeed ensue. And he who actually initiated it with his original comments has no legitimate claim to sit back and proclaim, "Well he started it because I didn't reference him". No, the original poster started it when he said what he said for all to see in a public place. That's my view of it, and it applies to everyone here. Nobody gets to pop in here and say all kinds of angry-minded, mean-spirited stuff and then get ticked when somebody else responds in an "aggressive" way just because that "somebody" wasn't "referenced" in the original comments LOL! That's how I see it, and I won't be cowed.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2651428]It's a subdivision of Warner Brothers.[/QUOTE]Same sort of cringe jokes he tells to WGs. It's embarrassing when they associate you with him.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2651363]Not really, Russia borders Norway for example.

Catherine the Great was a member of the Viking Rurik family and she established Yekaterinburg on the eastern slopes of the Ural mountains. Thus Yekaterinburg and its proxy cities like Chelyabinsk are considered European too. Though the area the Russians took after the Ruriks might be less European. But I am uncertain exactly who the later Russian leaders were. Though Putin and his lackeys are all Ruriks too it seems. To me a swede is maybe more European than a French. Unless the French is from Normandy or Burgundy. It is all in the eyes of the beholder.[/QUOTE]I meant for Putin, for Russians pride Putin gives them, when they suffered behind the wall, not only from poverty. Russians are far from Europeans for culture, except Peter which is more open for tourism, before covid. Border between Norway and Russia is only for Santa Claus, when less and less white bears.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2651364]But the entire debacle with Ukraine / Belarus probably have more implications than I am aware of, I do believe Russia should retake Kazakhstan instead of interfering in Ukraine and Belarus. Although both sides are lying so much about what's going on that the last thing to trust in is reading a newspaper, or watching TV about it. Anywhere on earth. History is what matters. Always.[/QUOTE]After Crimee, Putin want Ukraine, to have the way to Black sea, for petrol and natural gas, to control better and be more powerful and rich, when Ukraine fell in poverty. I remember arguing with my Russian escorts about Putin. Now more poor Ukrainians than real Russians. I loved pretty Siberians for fire under ice. I used to go on their arrival day for real newbies, initiating them, great memories and Russian nights, almost all nights with one wow on her 2 weeks tour on beginning of 2013. Foods and 200 for our nights, buying her also perfume and for her mother.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651450]Yeah whatever, brothels or travel. Apparently you don't think much of the need for vaccination either, yet here you are, claiming the sky is falling, not really acting on the same advice you dish out. Hypocrisy.

Also, brevity.[/QUOTE]But you have to notice you fully mistook when vaccine and even with 4 doses don t slow spreading when Omicron is fastest rabbit spreading. I only vaccinated to buy my freedom and for sure after last night, even a bit improving today, I would have preferred to have freedom not to vaccinate, but just my personal opinion when I worry a bit for my health now after 2 doses JJ and ARN, not advice, when I agree vaccine saved many lives for weak healthy and old.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2651455]Somebody's posts (including your own) might be considered to be provocative, controversial, offensive, aggressive, etc without anybody being specifically referenced in them. That's not a requirement to warrant a strong response to what one says in a public forum. It doesn't have to be about "me" or any particular person (s) here per se. But we're all reading, and have the right to respond if so moved to do so. And if one takes personal offense to somebody strongly objecting to or challenging what they themselves have assertively put forth in a public forum, then it would be best to just keep their opinions to themselves, especially if they involve a sensitive subject.

But if they choose not to do that, and instead proceed, then a firefight could indeed ensue. And he who actually initiated it with his original comments has no legitimate claim to sit back and proclaim, "Well he started it because I didn't reference him". No, the original poster started it when he said what he said for all to see in a public place. That's my view of it, and it applies to everyone here. Nobody gets to pop in here and say all kinds of angry-minded, mean-spirited stuff and then get ticked when somebody else responds in an "aggressive" way just because that "somebody" wasn't "referenced" in the original comments LOL! That's how I see it, and I won't be cowed.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have a right to respond to any comment, just as others have a right to respond to your original comments. As for the original comment being offensive, that depends on the person who perceives it, and the aggressive tone with which that person responds is also up to them. However, Takedown / Murse / Escape is claiming that anyone indulging in brief and tough discussions periodically is at the same level as he is; but his calling in life is to sit here, wait for anyone and everyone to post something and take potshots at passersby and then drag it down to the absolute dirt level endlessly. And he knows his access will be cut after a while and prepares in advance by creating multiple accounts. The only person he is almost slavishly deferential to is McAdonis, hence my CCP jibe. Fits w / the Chinese concept Pai Ma Pi perfectly.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651492]However, Takedown / Murse / Escape is claiming that anyone indulging in brief and tough discussions periodically is at the same level as he is; but his calling in life is to sit here, wait for anyone and everyone to post something and take potshots at passersby and then drag it down to the absolute dirt level endlessly. And he knows his access will be cut after a while and prepares in advance by creating multiple accounts. The only person he is almost slavishly deferential to is McAdonis, hence my CCP jibe. Fits w / the Chinese concept Pai Ma Pi perfectly.[/QUOTE]If it's true that this guy has multiple aliases, then I don't even know why he's allowed to be here. I thought that was automatic grounds for banishment. Maybe it's only everybody's strong suspicion that has not been proven? But on the other hand, didn't he admit below to having multiple handles? I'm not understanding why this person is allowed to keep posting!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651488]But you have to notice you fully mistook when vaccine and even with 4 doses don t slow spreading when Omicron is fastest rabbit spreading. I only vaccinated to buy my freedom and for sure after last night, even a bit improving today, I would have preferred to have freedom not to vaccinate, but just my personal opinion when I worry a bit for my health now after 2 doses JJ and ARN, not advice, when I agree vaccine saved many lives for weak healthy and old.[/QUOTE]The USA CDC tells not to take a second Johnson dose and instead take a Pfizer. So in France they are giving two Johnson doses?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651492]Yes, you have a right to respond to any comment, just as others have a right to respond to your original comments. As for the original comment being offensive, that depends on the person who perceives it, and the aggressive tone with which that person responds is also up to them. However, Takedown / Murse / Escape is claiming that anyone indulging in brief and tough discussions periodically is at the same level as he is; but his calling in life is to sit here, wait for anyone and everyone to post something and take potshots at passersby and then drag it down to the absolute dirt level endlessly. And he knows his access will be cut after a while and prepares in advance by creating multiple accounts. The only person he is almost slavishly deferential to is McAdonis, hence my CCP jibe. Fits w / the Chinese concept Pai Ma Pi perfectly.[/QUOTE]It seems that you create alternative scenarios in your mind as I seem to have generally always agreed with non-emotional and rational posters like PaulZ, BB69, Rocky, Ararat, etc, etc, etc. It's much like how you confounded McA's Chinese heritage with mine, a hilarious go-to insult you keep repeating ad nauseum.

"Brief discussion", LOL. You've done your share of insults to Ho, Gino, Cane, etc. Current "brief discussion" with Gino is going on what? 3 days now? Discussion, hah! As if you kept it civil.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651488]But you have to notice you fully mistook when vaccine and even with 4 doses don t slow spreading when Omicron is fastest rabbit spreading. I only vaccinated to buy my freedom and for sure after last night, even a bit improving today, I would have preferred to have freedom not to vaccinate, but just my personal opinion when I worry a bit for my health now after 2 doses JJ and ARN, not advice, when I agree vaccine saved many lives for weak healthy and old.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure there was no mistake when we learned that vaccination slowed the spread of first few strains as it reduced the amount of time someone was infectious. Omicron has proven to be more transmissible but less virulent. Why did it become that way? Because a large vaccinated population selected for a microbe that had a mutation making it so.

But you speak about pathophysiology and immunology like you have any knowledge or training on the topic while trusting the advice of journalist and politicians over medically trained people. Ego driven, not data driven.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2651455]Somebody's posts (including your own) might be considered to be provocative, controversial, offensive, aggressive, etc without anybody being specifically referenced in them. That's not a requirement to warrant a strong response to what one says in a public forum. It doesn't have to be about "me" or any particular person (s) here per se. But we're all reading, and have the right to respond if so moved to do so. And if one takes personal offense to somebody strongly objecting to or challenging what they themselves have assertively put forth in a public forum, then it would be best to just keep their opinions to themselves, especially if they involve a sensitive subject.

But if they choose not to do that, and instead proceed, then a firefight could indeed ensue. And he who actually initiated it with his original comments has no legitimate claim to sit back and proclaim, "Well he started it because I didn't reference him". No, the original poster started it when he said what he said for all to see in a public place. That's my view of it, and it applies to everyone here. Nobody gets to pop in here and say all kinds of angry-minded, mean-spirited stuff and then get ticked when somebody else responds in an "aggressive" way just because that "somebody" wasn't "referenced" in the original comments LOL! That's how I see it, and I won't be cowed.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with that too. We're all men I believe. Some more emotional than others. Some are able to handle criticism, disagreement, and chastising. Obviously several do not have the ability to separate internet bullshit from personal pride.

But having said that, despite my shared thoughts on this subject, many often fail at practicing what they preach.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2651291]Sure, those German health authorities have no idea. Let's look at deaths per million people so far: Germany 1379, Switzerland 1435, Austria 1530, France 1935, UK 2215, USA 2611, a lot of Balkan countries with more than 4000. I would say the Germans did pretty well in relative terms.

Wellcum, big whoop, they just reopened.[/QUOTE]I agree that Germany has done an admirable job as a whole, although over zealous at times with the restrictions. Not many western populations would be able to abide by the heavy restrictions they endured for so many months last winter. As much as it disappoints me that some states have closed their brothels without severity of illness matching case numbers, it's hard to argue with previous results.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651492]Yes, you have a right to respond to any comment, just as others have a right to respond to your original comments. As for the original comment being offensive, that depends on the person who perceives it, and the aggressive tone with which that person responds is also up to them. However, Takedown / Murse / Escape is claiming that anyone indulging in brief and tough discussions periodically is at the same level as he is; but his calling in life is to sit here, wait for anyone and everyone to post something and take potshots at passersby and then drag it down to the absolute dirt level endlessly. And he knows his access will be cut after a while and prepares in advance by creating multiple accounts. The only person he is almost slavishly deferential to is McAdonis, hence my CCP jibe. Fits w / the Chinese concept Pai Ma Pi perfectly.[/QUOTE]I don't think really about banning risk, but matter of mind to be several, when I prefer to be only one and different. He thinks he gets the truth, from internet, when medical but was claiming vaccine would stop spreading. For sure, facts talk. Have to worry a bit about US medical. Same like boosted without negative test will spread when they already did after 2 doses, when I don't think many JJ like me when I thought for only 1 dose, but now fucking ARN booster killing your health. I was not so sick on 15 March 2020 driving home from Sharks.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2651510]The USA CDC tells not to take a second Johnson dose and instead take a Pfizer. So in France they are giving two Johnson doses?[/QUOTE]No, as I wrote, when I chose JJ for only 1 dose to get my pass and I was very right to wait after my Summer tour finishing in Ventoux on November, when I managed under 3 G in FKK land, making many fast tests at Sharks or Wellcum, Globe and Cleo didn't ask me on July / August, then PCR and also fast tests, but to keep my pass valid, have to make ARN booster before 7 February, fucking ARN Moderna poison making me so sick on 2 last nights, when I didn t feel so bad on 15 March 2020 driving home from Sharks and not even when peritonite poisoned my blood on 30 November 2019 and I had to drive from Frankfurt to French border. When already telling about second booster, when vaccines are just 0 versus spreading, I don t want more poison put inside me. No paranoia, nothing about trackers, but when I didn't ask anything, when I visited so many brothels on 2020 and 2021 until JJ on November and survived and always negative for more than 20 tests, but now being sick from their ARN poison. I don't see how I could survive from ARN if I was really weak. In 2 weeks, I will test for intense cardio effort to check my health when I worry about their poison and was right to do on Friday late afternoon, but I couldn't even appreciate Lauberhorn. Ch on Saturday, but feeling so bad, sitting, like waiting to die, when couldn't stay in bed on 2 last nights.

How do key covid metrics compare to 2020 peaks?

In Germany, 200% more cases, 38% of peak hospitalization, 2. 4% of peak deaths.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/germany-covid-cases-hospital-icu-deaths?country=~DEU[/URL]

In UK, 300% more cases, 50% of peak hospitalization, 21% of peak deaths.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/uk-covid-cases-hospital-ventilated-deaths?country=~GBR[/URL]

Omicron continues to push pandemic to the next more mild stage.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651530]It seems that you create alternative scenarios in your mind as I seem to have generally always agreed with non-emotional and rational posters like PaulZ, BB69, Rocky, Ararat, etc, etc, etc. It's much like how you confounded McA's Chinese heritage with mine, a hilarious go-to insult you keep repeating ad nauseum.

"Brief discussion", LOL. You've done your share of insults to Ho, Gino, Cane, etc. Current "brief discussion" with Gino is going on what? 3 days now? Discussion, hah! As if you kept it civil.[/QUOTE]I don't know that MCA is Chinese, couldn't care. He never said so himself. It is interesting that Murse got banned by the Mod for disclosing personal details about someone else and here you go again. Did McA authorize you to disclose his identity, and if not how is what you just did legal?

I only know you are of Asian ethnicity because you blared it yourself from a loudspeaker. The point of Pai Ma Pi is not that one or both have to be Chinese. An American business man in Beijing could practice pai ma pi to get contracts. You show such slavish lackey deference to him. That concept applies to you, not him.

The fact that you sometimes or even many times agree with rational posters does not imply your behavior of creating multiple handles and keeping them in abeyance for the rainy day is any less slimy. That is a strange argument. An act and behavior get judged on its own and not in relation to who you agree with on other matters.

I have said even six months ago and earlier that the only two members I have consistently had issues with were you and Gino. Gino's true colors came out when he advocated banning all people with Asian look from the clubs in February 2020. I think he is a Nazi and his admiration for the traitors who invaded Capitol Hill makes him a quasi traitor in my book.

But as always, your defense is just whataboutism. The key thing is, you know for certain that you will get banned repeatedly and create multiple accounts ahead. That is not my alternate reality, that is the reality we have been seeing from you in public.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651138][b]I don't need or want to argue[/b] with someone like you when all I have for you is contempt and nothing more. I don't know why lawless thugs like you and your pals that take up coup on the nation's capital are not in prison yet. But no, [b] I have no intent to argue[/b]; and only the dumbest fools proclaim they won arguments on internet. That is for others to decide but invariably most people don't care the minute that mutual insults appear in these "arguments".[/QUOTE]Hahahaha, in what reality are you living? Lack of self awareness or denial is glaring. Stop lying to yourself and just accept that you're just as guilty of playing in the mud as anyone else. Actions would serve you better to actually validate your obvious belief that you're a cut above anyone else.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651554]He thinks he gets the truth, from internet, when medical but was claiming vaccine would stop spreading.[/QUOTE]Keep up Sirioja, one year after vaccine roll out, it's now 2022 and Omicron is different than January variants. They have served their purpose and reduced spread for most of 2021 z. Actual case severity speaks for itself no matter how much you root for the worst-case scenario that politicians are using to navigate their policies.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651725]Hahahaha, in what reality are you living? Lack of self awareness or denial is glaring. Stop lying to yourself and just accept that you're just as guilty of playing in the mud as anyone else. Actions would serve you better to actually validate your obvious belief that you're a cut above anyone else.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with that too. But having said that, despite my shared thoughts on this subject, many often fail at practicing what they preach.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651721]I don't know that MCA is Chinese, couldn't care. He never said so himself. It is interesting that Murse got banned by the Mod for disclosing personal details about someone else and here you go again. Did McA authorize you to disclose his identity, and if not how is what you just did legal?

I only know you are of Asian ethnicity because you blared it yourself from a loudspeaker. The point of Pai Ma Pi is not that one or both have to be Chinese. An American business man in Beijing could practice pai ma pi to get contracts. You show such slavish lackey deference to him. That concept applies to you, not him.

The fact that you sometimes or even many times agree with rational posters does not imply your behavior of creating multiple handles and keeping them in abeyance for the rainy day is any less slimy. That is a strange argument. An act and behavior get judged on its own and not in relation to who you agree with on other matters..[/QUOTE]Ah so you accuse Asian people of CCP allegiance without knowing their ancestral heritage. How worldly of you. Seems you're not much better than Gino. Then again, he never explicitly promoted mass deportation either.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651725]Hahahaha, in what reality are you living? Lack of self awareness or denial is glaring. Stop lying to yourself and just accept that you're just as guilty of playing in the mud as anyone else. Actions would serve you better to actually validate your obvious belief that you're a cut above anyone else.[/QUOTE]Your bromance w / Gino is cute and endearing. Enemy of enemy, you said? Is he one of the rational people you claimed you agree with? LOL. I already said below that Gino was the first one I tangled with, and I have nothing but contempt for you and him, for different reasons: one is a far right Proud Boys nutcase, the other a CCP troll.

[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2651703]Since the Hessen-Area still has to deal with the socalled "Hotspot"-rules from the government (+350 Incidence) it will be very unlikely that Sharks will re-open soon. Actually it might be on of the last days for Clubbing in Hessen since the Giessen-Kreis seems to be getting a higher Inzidenz every day and I expect that World / Village and others will close very soon as well. If this "hotspot-thing" is not adjusted by the Hessen-authorities it might probably be end of February or something like that based on a probable decrease of Infektionnumbers in Germany by then. At the moment they are still going up quite rapidly and there's no indication that it will start to diminish the upcoming days / weeks![/QUOTE]Yeah, looking at the timeline in the UK, it took 3 weeks from when cases spiked to when it peaked (around 12 December to 5 January). However, it has yet to come down to basal numbers. Perhaps another 3 more weeks in the UK, so looking like around 2 months from trough to peak and back.

In Germany, the Omicron spike started on 28 December. If it follows the same path, that would mean end of February unless authorities amend their metric thresholds and "hotspot" designation parameters.

However, Germany has the advantage of having recently come out of a Delta surge, immunizing more people more recently in the process. In addition, they are not dealing with a surge during the Christmas family holidays in which the UK had to deal.

Optimism may lead one to think that the German situation could fizzle out more quickly than the British. Either way, without the corresponding rise in hospital admissions and deaths in Germany, here's to hoping German authorities amend their regulation sooner than the current threshold metrics allow.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651668]No, as I wrote, when I chose JJ for only 1 dose to get my pass and I was very right to wait after my Summer tour finishing in Ventoux on November, when I managed under 3 G in FKK land, making many fast tests at Sharks or Wellcum, Globe and Cleo didn't ask me on July / August, then PCR and also fast tests, but to keep my pass valid, have to make ARN booster before 7 February, fucking ARN Moderna poison making me so sick on 2 last nights, when I didn t feel so bad on 15 March 2020 driving home from Sharks and not even when peritonite poisoned my blood on 30 November 2019 and I had to drive from Frankfurt to French border. When already telling about second booster, when vaccines are just 0 versus spreading, I don t want more poison put inside me. No paranoia, nothing about trackers, but when I didn't ask anything, when I visited so many brothels on 2020 and 2021 until JJ on November and survived and always negative for more than 20 tests, but now being sick from their ARN poison. I don't see how I could survive from ARN if I was really weak. In 2 weeks, I will test for intense cardio effort to check my health when I worry about their poison and was right to do on Friday late afternoon, but I couldn't even appreciate Lauberhorn. Ch on Saturday, but feeling so bad, sitting, like waiting to die, when couldn't stay in bed on 2 last nights.[/QUOTE]Says "weak" people should get vaccinated.

Now calls vaccines "poisons" and doesn't know how "weak" people survive vaccine.

Says Omicron is serious, yet says he only needs vaccines for freedom of travel.

So much round-about speak. Knows little. Stands for nothing.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651740]Keep up Sirioja, one year after vaccine roll out, it's now 2022 and Omicron is different than January variants. They have served their purpose and reduced spread for most of 2021 z. Actual case severity speaks for itself no matter how much you root for the worst-case scenario that politicians are using to navigate their policies.[/QUOTE]Once more, real figures are more than 2000 known daily deaths in US where Pfizer is making business, more than 300000 new cases in France before UK enter and will increase, under Omicron which is the fastest for spreading, Hessen and Bavaria closed brothels. I trust much more some of our medical saying they don't know much about this virus and just adapt, rather than you who really mistook about vaccine efficiency. Despite vaccine, still too many deaths under Omicron, not just flu.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651721]I don't know that MCA is Chinese, couldn't care. He never said so himself. It is interesting that Murse got banned by the Mod for disclosing personal details about someone else and here you go again. Did McA authorize you to disclose his identity, and if not how is what you just did legal?

I only know you are of Asian ethnicity because you blared it yourself from a loudspeaker. The point of Pai Ma Pi is not that one or both have to be Chinese. An American business man in Beijing could practice pai ma pi to get contracts. You show such slavish lackey deference to him. That concept applies to you, not him.

The fact that you sometimes or even many times agree with rational posters does not imply your behavior of creating multiple handles and keeping them in abeyance for the rainy day is any less slimy. That is a strange argument. An act and behavior get judged on its own and not in relation to who you agree with on other matters.

I have said even six months ago and earlier that the only two members I have consistently had issues with were you and Gino. Gino's true colors came out when he advocated banning all people with Asian look from the clubs in February 2020. I think he is a Nazi and his admiration for the traitors who invaded Capitol Hill makes him a quasi traitor in my book.

But as always, your defense is just whataboutism. The key thing is, you know for certain that you will get banned repeatedly and create multiple accounts ahead. That is not my alternate reality, that is the reality we have been seeing from you in public.[/QUOTE]As far I know him and met many times, MacAdo is not Chinese for ID but he can correct if I didn't understand good. He is very different from Murse / Takedown / Escape who is on same level than repeating without knowing Skippy ZH, or my bald fat obsessed French follower since 2013 reading all of me, spending time making research to find about me, sending to Skippy Zurich who repeats, level of these guys who like so much links from so reliable internet. When some spend time to find good girls, not so easy to find for me, my obsessed French follower spend his time following me. He didn't understand I m not available to go to room, despite my beautiful hair and pretty face.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651549]I agree that Germany has done an admirable job as a whole, although over zealous at times with the restrictions. Not many western populations would be able to abide by the heavy restrictions they endured for so many months last winter. As much as it disappoints me that some states have closed their brothels without severity of illness matching case numbers, it's hard to argue with previous results.[/QUOTE]Ask Germans about their around 120000 deaths from covid, if they managed so good. Not really sure they will agree.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651771]Ah so you accuse Asian people of CCP allegiance without knowing their ancestral heritage. How worldly of you. Seems you're not much better than Gino. Then again, he never explicitly promoted mass deportation either.[/QUOTE]I called you a CCP thug not because of your Asian ethnicity but because you bashed US on several occasions and are consistently supportive of CCP and its genocide; even took umbrage when I said CCP committed genocide. As for Gino, your new bff, he explicitly called for banning Asians at the gate at the FKKs. If he had his wish come true, you'd never stepping inside.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651828]Once more, real figures are more than 2000 known daily deaths in US where Pfizer is making business, more than 300000 new cases in France before UK enter and will increase, under Omicron which is the fastest for spreading, Hessen and Bavaria closed brothels. I trust much more some of our medical saying they don't know much about this virus and just adapt, rather than you who really mistook about vaccine efficiency. Despite vaccine, still too many deaths under Omicron, not just flu.[/QUOTE]And once more you are simple minded for looking at numbers in a vacuum rather than comparing to historical trends in which rising cases are not proportionate to numbers of those hospitalized or dying of COVID. Not to mention that you have no idea what is actually happening in hospitals at the moment when those who are dying are dying of non-covid causes with only incidental covid findings.

Is is true that NovaVax is now available in Frankreich and South Korea? How long must we continue to wait in Kanada und Amerika for this protein vaxx? Data package was submitted in USA on Dec 31st, so minimum time for EUA is Jan 31st? After listening to Siri, I don't want viral vector or mRNA booster shot. Going to gym sans mask everyday with single J&J so booster is pointless except for overseas travel. So frustrating.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2651914]Is is true that NovaVax is now available in Frankreich and South Korea? How long must we continue to wait in Kanada und Amerika for this protein vaxx? Data package was submitted in USA on Dec 31st, so minimum time for EUA is Jan 31st? After listening to Siri, I don't want viral vector or mRNA booster shot. Going to gym sans mask everyday with single J&J so booster is pointless except for overseas travel. So frustrating.[/QUOTE]No reason to not get a JJ booster than any other vaccine unless you are a woman on birth control who smokes.

CDC just recommends mRNA over JJ because of preliminary increased efficacy data seen against Delta variant. Likely also applies to Omicron. But JJ booster still efficacious, just marginally less so.

I have yet to treat a single person for covid in the hospital who received a booster. Some boosted patients were treated for other issues but had incidental positive covid test results. They were without respiratory symptoms or cytokine storm (inflammation and clots) related to covid. Intubated a couple unvaxxed (likely Omicron) patients since December 2021. A few people were mRNA double vaxxed with their last shot in Spring 2021 (a long time ago). But even they only showed mild symptoms with Omicron.

If you did fine with the first JJ vaccine, [B]I see no reason besides socio-political-ideological ones to not get the JJ booster[/B]. It'll likely prevent hospitalization and at the very least make a shitty covid week a lot less shitty. I'm 39 and JJ boosted, got Omicron around Christmas after getting patient respiratory secretions on my face, felt shitty for 1 day. On day 3, I was asymptomatic, antigen negative but pcr positive, meaning I was likely no longer infectious. Some of my 20 something year old unboosted colleagues were out with flu like symptoms for almost a week.

Observations based on my personal limited sample size of course.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2651914]Is is true that NovaVax is now available in Frankreich and South Korea? How long must we continue to wait in Kanada und Amerika for this protein vaxx? Data package was submitted in USA on Dec 31st, so minimum time for EUA is Jan 31st? After listening to Siri, I don't want viral vector or mRNA booster shot. Going to gym sans mask everyday with single J&J so booster is pointless except for overseas travel. So frustrating.[/QUOTE]Oh, to answer your question, NovaVax not expected in USA until 4th quarter 2022.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2651914]Is is true that NovaVax is now available in Frankreich and South Korea? How long must we continue to wait in Kanada und Amerika for this protein vaxx? Data package was submitted in USA on Dec 31st, so minimum time for EUA is Jan 31st? After listening to Siri, I don't want viral vector or mRNA booster shot. Going to gym sans mask everyday with single J&J so booster is pointless except for overseas travel. So frustrating.[/QUOTE]Only ARN for booster in France, not possible with JJ. Yes, new US Novavax is told to arrive soon in EU, but not sure for booster. Maybe I m allergic to ARN and I m so few used to be sick, I didn't even think to take paracetamol my family advised me, when I didn't even take after having my belly opened or arm down out of shoulder or broken bone. If no booster, no more valid pass in France, so I can't go anymore to some business meetings or to restaurant, not what I call freedom.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651801]Yeah, looking at the timeline in the UK, it took 3 weeks from when cases spiked to when it peaked (around 12 December to 5 January). However, it has yet to come down to basal numbers. Perhaps another 3 more weeks in the UK, so looking like around 2 months from trough to peak and back.

In Germany, the Omicron spike started on 28 December. If it follows the same path, that would mean end of February unless authorities amend their metric thresholds and "hotspot" designation parameters.

However, Germany has the advantage of having recently come out of a Delta surge, immunizing more people more recently in the process. In addition, they are not dealing with a surge during the Christmas family holidays in which the UK had to deal.

Optimism may lead one to think that the German situation could fizzle out more quickly than the British. Either way, without the corresponding rise in hospital admissions and deaths in Germany, here's to hoping German authorities amend their regulation sooner than the current threshold metrics allow.[/QUOTE]If you had good informations, you should know Omicron is not yet at peak in Germany but still increasing, reason why Oase closed after Sharks, Palace and Mainhattan and World / Village will follow, but US don't seem to have accurate information, CIA is are not anymore what they were.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651863]And once more you are simple minded for looking at numbers in a vacuum rather than comparing to historical trends in which rising cases are not proportionate to numbers of those hospitalized or dying of COVID. Not to mention that you have no idea what is actually happening in hospitals at the moment when those who are dying are dying of non-covid causes with only incidental covid findings.[/QUOTE]Simple mind, I loved their song Chelsea girl and record real to real cacophony, remember very well when you claimed you knew vaccine would stop spreading when delta killed so many on Summer and Omicron spread now so fast and much and kill so many in US, more than 300 daily in UK. So low level for arithmetic's when US will reach soon 1 million covid deaths, they really lost this war, and about knowledge about vaccine efficiency. And are you so sure, no Omicron cousin to arrive after? When delta was back to UK.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651937]Simple mind, I loved their song Chelsea girl and record real to real cacophony, remember very well when you claimed you knew vaccine would stop spreading when delta killed so many on Summer and Omicron spread now so fast and much and kill so many in US, more than 300 daily in UK. So low level for arithmetic's when US will reach soon 1 million covid deaths, they really lost this war, and about knowledge about vaccine efficiency. And are you so sure, no Omicron cousin to arrive after? When delta was back to UK.[/QUOTE]You have no idea how bad it would have been without the vaccine slowing that spread in winter 2021. It was utter chaos and complete shit in the hospitals before the vaccines. Delta was nothing compared to 2020 variants. That's the simple part of your experience. No extrapolation of what was to be, no comparison to what was, thinking you know all when you saw nothing. You only see 1 meter in front of you.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651859]I called you a CCP thug not because of your Asian ethnicity but because you bashed US on several occasions and are consistently supportive of CCP and its genocide; even took umbrage when I said CCP committed genocide. As for Gino, your new bff, he explicitly called for banning Asians at the gate at the FKKs. If he had his wish come true, you'd never stepping inside.[/QUOTE]Consistently bashed the US and supported CCP genocide? GTFOH with that bullshit man. If you're an American and you can't criticize our own people, you're the type that's susceptible to that Trumper brainwashing bullcrap. Not to mention that I've defended the good ole USA to these anti America asshats on here on numerous occasions.

Defend CCP genocide? Fuck no. I've defended logic and reason and the concept of "innocent until proven guilty. " Defended human citizens who have no part in a corrupt government's policies.

Your personal contempt for me pushes you into making these accusations while I know damn well that your neurotic tendencies facilitated you reading all of my posts to know your claims are unwarranted. That's the emotional criticism of you. What's ironic is that we actually agree against every other asshat post on these boards but because I called you out on your bullshit deportation promotion, you can't separate your personal offense with reason. Emotional. Womanly.

Man up and own your shit bro.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651824]Says "weak" people should get vaccinated.

Now calls vaccines "poisons" and doesn't know how "weak" people survive vaccine.

Says Omicron is serious, yet says he only needs vaccines for freedom of travel.

So much round-about speak. Knows little. Stands for nothing.[/QUOTE]I survived to Chinese original, UK, delta, visiting FKK land almost weekly on 2020 and 2021 when open, except for holidays and didn't need vaccine to protect me. I just need vaccine to keep my freedom. JJ was only on November 2021 after last Ventoux for me and if I could, then no vaccine for me. But I don't say not to vaccine. But I hate to be forced to be sick. I bought my freedom like I buy points for my driving license. When I was caught on 30 December, losing 3 points, gendarmerie army warned me telling You should make session to buy points. I didn't pay and didn't go to jail of course.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651944]You have no idea how bad it would have been without the vaccine slowing that spread in winter 2021. It was utter chaos and complete shit in the hospitals before the vaccines. Delta was nothing compared to 2020 variants. That's the simple part of your experience. No extrapolation of what was to be, no comparison to what was, thinking you know all when you saw nothing. You only see 1 meter in front of you.[/QUOTE]Ask Germans how delta was a killer for them, but I agree vaccines saved many millions lives, but didn't stop spreading when many vaccinated are positive. Boosted without test is a big mistake in FKK, when Wellcum was a cluster.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2651126]We paid $300 K+ in federal taxes in 2020. If you did better, you can talk.

"please try to re-learn how to read!" - coming from the Breitbart idiot who admires the medieval unwashed masses that invaded Capitol Hill.

Listen nutcase, you asked me for my view of some stupid polls. I gave my opinion. I didn't initiate the conversation with you; you did, for whatever reason, and when what I said did not suit your twisted, KKK mindset, you went ballistic. Bugger off![/QUOTE]Really? Let's publish each others' tax returns in an online sex discussion forum to prove our points? Let's post pics of how big is each others fully paid of estates and how many what expensive cars we have? That's seriously pathetic! Dude, once you have the freedom to do or go anywhere you want to anytime at your own will, then tell us who's better off. You are still slave to your work boss and the wife (the other boss), can't even come to the FKKs now that you say you loved so much that you cheated on your beloved wife so many times. Typical brainwashed lying cheating hypocrite liberal who is always slaves to many bosses LOL. I seriously feel sorry for people like you, but can't do anything as they don't listen either.

Yes, I asked for your opinion, hoping that you are smart enough to learn from the last year's experience. But like I already acknowledged, it was my mistake to assume you have some brain left. Unlike people like you, I have guts to accept when I am wrong.

France, a nation with about as many covid cases per capita as the UK, USA, and Germany combined. Who knows how many illegal North African "ghosts" are not counted in their numbers.

France, the now leader nation of the EU, how sad for this "number 1" country to be doing so terribly with their covid cases.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~FRA~DEU~GBR[/URL]

Lowest level in arithmetics: saying that Romania lost more than half of its population.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651835]Ask Germans about their around 120000 deaths from covid, if they managed so good. Not really sure they will agree.[/QUOTE]And right at the moment, after Bavaria and Saxe a while ago, sad reality is many French hospitals and not only in Marseille, are full from covid with 80% Omicron. Same for rich Zurich a while ago, I don't know right now. When France have less daily deaths than UK and fortunately than US which are number 1 to fail under covid, despite Pfizer and Moderna, but still so many deaths under Omicron.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651835]Ask Germans about their around 120000 deaths from covid, if they managed so good. Not really sure they will agree.[/QUOTE]If death is the standard of failure, then Germany would have to close FKKs forever, wear masks forever, and lockdown forever.

I've mongered, worked, and lived in several countries, so I can just travel someplace else, but the fact is, people are dying of covid in every country and there is no acceptable number.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2652137]If death is the standard of failure, then Germany would have to close FKKs forever, wear masks forever, and lockdown forever.

I've mongered, worked, and lived in several countries, so I can just travel someplace else, but the fact is, people are dying of covid in every country and there is no acceptable number.[/QUOTE]My meaning, answering multi profiles US repeating internet, was when Germany was the most efficient to protect at covid start with much less deaths than others on 2020, but they really failed under UK and delta for numerous deaths on 2021 and I was surprised brothels managed to open for so long on 2021, when I remember a staff woman at Sharks coming to me in the afternoon, telling: please put on your mask, we don t want to be closed by control, when I remember Balkanians at many nights I spent, maybe controls are sleeping at night, until polizei came to ask to close immediately. I agree too many and still deaths from covid when for sure Germany is not the worst, but 2017 German law only worked for registration, but still BBBJ, AO, when many Germans return to wife and children after brothels.

What escape artist is trying to say (unfortunately he's speaking to a miniature brick wall) is that the ratio deaths / cases is clearly decreasing. So his the ratio hospitalizations / cases. This is caused by some factors: vaccination, a part of the population has been infected and immunized before and for the moment omicron seems to give milder symptoms.

And for all the 'it's just a flu and I have a strong immune system ' groupies:

[URL]https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/advance-article/doi/10.1093/eurheartj/ehab914/6499078[/URL]

[QUOTE]Conclusion
Subjects who apparently recovered from mild to moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection show signs of subclinical multi-organ affection related to pulmonary, cardiac, thrombotic, and renal function without signs of structural brain damage, neurocognitive, or quality-of-life impairment. Respective screening may guide further patient management.[/QUOTE]It sucks to have damaged lungs, especially if it's for good.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2651447]In Viking times you would have been an unmarried Orm [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9uRaW-wVLM&t=74s[/URL].[/QUOTE]Doubtful, but you would have been the slave. (The other buried guy).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651466]I meant for Putin, for Russians pride Putin gives them, when they suffered behind the wall, not only from poverty. Russians are far from Europeans for culture, except Peter which is more open for tourism, before covid. Border between Norway and Russia is only for Santa Claus, when less and less white bears.[/QUOTE]Dunno, I've met a lot of Russians when abroad. And Greek people for example seem aloy more alien.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651466]I meant for Putin, for Russians pride Putin gives them, when they suffered behind the wall, not only from poverty. Russians are far from Europeans for culture, except Peter which is more open for tourism, before covid. Border between Norway and Russia is only for Santa Claus, when less and less white bears.[/QUOTE]I used to have a white bear in my garden as a pet actually.

But up in that border region I don't think there ever was polar bears. LOL.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651462]Same sort of cringe jokes he tells to WGs. It's embarrassing when they associate you with him.[/QUOTE]Actually, DC is that crap American tech by Thomas Edison. Only to get beaten by advanced European AC by Nivola Tesla.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651462]Same sort of cringe jokes he tells to WGs. It's embarrassing when they associate you with him.[/QUOTE]Cringe has nothing to do with the joke itself. Bad jokes are usually the best when performed well. It is all about the performance. You got to state them deep into the eyes when saying the worst joke in the world! A too good joke is usually lame. Since it tries to be smart. Now that is cringe! You being afraid of eye contact.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2651920]No reason to not get a JJ booster than any other vaccine unless you are a woman on birth control who smokes.

CDC just recommends mRNA over JJ because of preliminary increased efficacy data seen against Delta variant. Likely also applies to Omicron. But JJ booster still efficacious, just marginally less so.

I have yet to treat a single person for covid in the hospital who received a booster. Some boosted patients were treated for other issues but had incidental positive covid test results. They were without respiratory symptoms or cytokine storm (inflammation and clots) related to covid. Intubated a couple unvaxxed (likely Omicron) patients since December 2021. A few people were mRNA double vaxxed with their last shot in Spring 2021 (a long time ago). But even they only showed mild symptoms with Omicron.

If you did fine with the first JJ vaccine, [B]I see no reason besides socio-political-ideological ones to not get the JJ booster[/B]. It'll likely prevent hospitalization and at the very least make a shitty covid week a lot less shitty. I'm 39 and JJ boosted, got Omicron around Christmas after getting patient respiratory secretions on my face, felt shitty for 1 day. On day 3, I was asymptomatic, antigen negative but pcr positive, meaning I was likely no longer infectious. Some of my 20 something year old unboosted colleagues were out with flu like symptoms for almost a week.

Observations based on my personal limited sample size of course.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing this info. I had tinnitus for months with the J&J (unless that was from the virus itself) so I wanted to switch to the protein booster. 4th quarter 2022? OMG my balls will explode in frustration first LOL. Maybe I can slip into Canada or Mexico sooner than that to get the Novavax. I don't know anything about crossing those borders via plane or car. Might have to roll with J&J as plan (B). Strange times.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651929]Only ARN for booster in France, not possible with JJ. Yes, new US Novavax is told to arrive soon in EU, but not sure for booster. Maybe I m allergic to ARN and I m so few used to be sick, I didn't even think to take paracetamol my family advised me, when I didn't even take after having my belly opened or arm down out of shoulder or broken bone. If no booster, no more valid pass in France, so I can't go anymore to some business meetings or to restaurant, not what I call freedom.[/QUOTE]After being expulsed from Australia, djoker Novax won't be allowed for second grand slam Rolland Garros in France if not vaccinated and with valid pass. Same than me, he needs valid pass to be free, he should also not be allowed to play tournaments in US. Really big pressure for vaccination and booster, to protect our hospitals, as say our medical.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2652173]Thank you for sharing this info. I had tinnitus for months with the J&J (unless that was from the virus itself) so I wanted to switch to the protein booster. 4th quarter 2022? OMG my balls will explode in frustration first LOL. Maybe I can slip into Canada or Mexico sooner than that to get the Novavax. I don't know anything about crossing those borders via plane or car. Might have to roll with J&J as plan (B). Strange times.[/QUOTE]Haha, Mexico don't care. No test or vax needed. Was in Cozumel last fall and travel was super easy, almost 100% normal. Just need a test within 24 hours to come back to the States for which I was gouged $75 for what should be a $20 antigen test. Gringo pricing I assume.

They've approved every other vaccine to be used there so I'm sure NovaVax will be the same. Like I said, Mehico don't care, hah!

But if you're in the business of exploring other vaccines in other countries, look up Cuba's protein subunit vaccine which will surely be available in Mexico once WHO reviews / approve data. It's showing to be more efficacious against variants so might curb the need for endless boosters. (3 shots though).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651930]If you had good informations, you should know [b]Omicron is not yet at peak in Germany[/b] but still increasing, reason why Oase closed after Sharks, Palace and Mainhattan and World / Village will follow, but US don't seem to have accurate information, CIA is are not anymore what they were.[/QUOTE]And I literally pointed that out in my post by mentioning that UK peaked at 3.5 weeks when Germany is only at 2.5. Information is accurate, reader did not read accurately.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651971]Ask Germans how delta was a killer for them, but I agree vaccines saved many millions lives, but didn't stop spreading when many vaccinated are positive. Boosted without test is a big mistake in FKK, when Wellcum was a cluster.[/QUOTE]I have. The German club goers are often people who don't give a shit about the virus. And German family friends who followed every rule now also understand that each mutation is less and less lethal are also ready to move on from life with restrictions. They walked around NYC with me for a week gladly risking getting covid because they knew the time for severe covid has passed for those who are recently boostered. It actually passed many, many months ago for the boostered population.

And again you refuse to see the connection between vaccinated people being infectious for less time and how that reduces spread significantly. A vaccinated person who is infectious for only 3 days will infect less people than the unvaccinated who is infectious for 10 days. Common sense.

Most healthcare personnel from all over the world have recognized Omicron's mild nature and are just waiting for government and health authorities to catch up. Your inability to see the same either stems from you protecting your pride or an over reliance on filtered television journalism.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2652021]Lowest level in arithmetics: saying that Romania lost more than half of its population.[/QUOTE]Or the fact that's all the math he understands. Stuck on 5th grade math when most adults moved on to algebra, probability, statistics, calculus, etc.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652124]And right at the moment, after Bavaria and Saxe a while ago, sad reality is many French hospitals and not only in Marseille, are full from covid with 80% Omicron. Same for rich Zurich a while ago, I don't know right now. When France have less daily deaths than UK and fortunately than US which are number 1 to fail under covid, despite Pfizer and Moderna, but still so many deaths under Omicron.[/QUOTE]Breaking news by Sirioja, the USA has a broken healthcare system with not enough doctors and hospitals and a population that has too many untreated comorbidities. Give him a Peabody award for "groundbreaking" investigative journalism. As we say, "no shit Sherlock."

This nation has never been one built for those looking for collective welfare but rather set up for the rich to get richer and the resourceful poor to easily climb. Those looking to coast or rely on assistance are destined to fail here. But that's the beauty of this country, it's designed for winners to win. Winners being those born with tangible resources and those with the intangible drive but starting out with little material wealth. The lazy bottom and in-betweeners fall further and further behind. Sounds like a pretty fair system to me.

The faint hearted need not apply. Seats taken.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652150]Actually, DC is that crap American tech by Thomas Edison. Only to get beaten by advanced European AC by Nivola Tesla.[/QUOTE]Sounds like someone has zero engineering background and has no idea that AC and DC have separate applications that suits the advantages of each.

Funny how he has no clue that ironically "Tesla" vehicles, like all other EVs, use DC current. Not to mention portable computers, solar cells, batteries, etc etc etc.

AC power's main advantage comes to use in large power grids because voltages can be easily adjusted according to need by surprise surprise, an alternating current.

When you speak out of your ass, shit comes out in the form of ignorance.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652204]And I literally pointed that out in my post by mentioning that UK peaked at 3.5 weeks when Germany is only at 2.5. Information is accurate, reader did not read accurately.[/QUOTE]And I think Hessen may not reopen so soon. I surprised NRW is still open, when Bavaria is closed since a while.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652230]I have. The German club goers are often people who don't give a shit about the virus. And German family friends who followed every rule now also understand that each mutation is less and less lethal are also ready to move on from life with restrictions. They walked around NYC with me for a week gladly risking getting covid because they knew the time for severe covid has passed for those who are recently boostered. It actually passed many, many months ago for the boostered population.

And again you refuse to see the connection between vaccinated people being infectious for less time and how that reduces spread significantly. A vaccinated person who is infectious for only 3 days will infect less people than the unvaccinated who is infectious for 10 days. Common sense.

Most healthcare personnel from all over the world have recognized Omicron's mild nature and are just waiting for government and health authorities to catch up. Your inability to see the same either stems from you protecting your pride or an over reliance on filtered television journalism.[/QUOTE]In France, I think we are lucky to receive free information and when we are around 90% vaccinated, but highest ever daily new cases rate under Omicron, more than 300000 daily new cases, not slow spreading but 10 millions on end of February, and still many deaths despite only 10% not vaccinated. More than 200 daily deaths for around 5 millions who are not vaccinated, not so few, around 10000 on end of February and very big pressure for vaccination to protect our already full hospitals.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2652145]What escape artist is trying to say (unfortunately he's speaking to a miniature brick wall) is that the ratio deaths / cases is clearly decreasing. So his the ratio hospitalizations / cases. This is caused by some factors: vaccination, a part of the population has been infected and immunized before and for the moment omicron seems to give milder symptoms.

And for all the 'it's just a flu and I have a strong immune system ' groupies:

[URL]https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/advance-article/doi/10.1093/eurheartj/ehab914/6499078[/URL]

It sucks to have damaged lungs, especially if it's for good.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yeah indeed those were my assertions.

The only thing I want to point out is that the study cited focused on a period where Delta was the dominant strain. Omicron, at least in the immunized (natural or vaccinated), has been shown to colonize in the upper airways and less so the lower airways associated with pneumonia and presumably systemic disease.

But I'm definitely not saying that Omicron innately does not colonize the lower airway, but for those with a primed immune system, it makes sense that in the lower airways which have immune properties of the specific immune system such as T cells and antibodies, the less virulent Omicron is more easily contained. Those with a naive immune system (not vaccinated and not previously exposed) likely will not benefit from this same reality.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652275]Sounds like someone has zero engineering background and has no idea that AC and DC have separate applications that suits the advantages of each.

Funny how he has no clue that ironically "Tesla" vehicles, like all other EVs, use DC current. Not to mention portable computers, solar cells, batteries, etc etc etc.

AC power's main advantage comes to use in large power grids because voltages can be easily adjusted according to need by surprise surprise, an alternating current.

When you speak out of your ass, shit comes out in the form of ignorance.[/QUOTE]I knew all that regarding the DC usage. Although 'surprise surprise'? You don't seem to understand the advantages of AC? Your sentence regarding it moronic at best.

ACs main advantage is need for a lot less infrastructure. Thus enabling the power network at a much larger and wider scale.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652372]I knew all that regarding the DC usage. Although 'surprise surprise'? You don't seem to understand the advantages of AC? Your sentence regarding it moronic at best.

ACs main advantage is need for a lot less infrastructure. Thus enabling the power network at a much larger and wider scale.[/QUOTE]English was a second language for you, wasn't it? Reading sarcasm must be difficult. I get it, truly. But I decided to just got better at it. Good luck. Just try harder little' tike.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652275]Sounds like someone has zero engineering background and has no idea that AC and DC have separate applications that suits the advantages of each.

Funny how he has no clue that ironically "Tesla" vehicles, like all other EVs, use DC current. Not to mention portable computers, solar cells, batteries, etc etc etc.

AC power's main advantage comes to use in large power grids because voltages can be easily adjusted according to need by surprise surprise, an alternating current.

When you speak out of your ass, shit comes out in the form of ignorance.[/QUOTE]It would probably sell less vehicles it was called an Edison.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652337]In France, I think we are lucky to receive free information and when we are around 90% vaccinated, but highest ever daily new cases rate under Omicron, more than 300000 daily new cases, not slow spreading but 10 millions on end of February, and still many deaths despite only 10% not vaccinated. More than 200 daily deaths for around 5 millions who are not vaccinated, not so few, around 10000 on end of February and very big pressure for vaccination to protect our already full hospitals.[/QUOTE]The Omicron vaccine is coming out in March so everyone who is vaccinated how will not be vaccinated in March and need a new Omicron vaccine.

Moderna plans to require everyone take a combined flu and covid booster each year for the rest of their lives!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af7x8brABpU[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652231]Or the fact that's all the math he understands. Stuck on 5th grade math when most adults moved on to algebra, probability, statistics, calculus, etc.[/QUOTE]If you want we can compare our for mathematics graduation level. In France, engineers in best schools, not from universities, are on higher level than doctors even studying for more years who were usually not the best at maths nor physics at school, or even than teachers in mathematics who were not on level to reach engineers schools. I so often heard medical telling: we don't know, we can t do anything, when You can t say this as engineer, if You are not able to always find a solution, then You are not engineer. What I know is massive vaccination started 1 year ago with 3 doses in less than 1 year and starting already to tell about second booster for fourth dose, but highest ever spreading since start 2 years ago and still high rate for deaths. Despite vaccine, Hessen and Bavaria close brothels again, we are asked in Paris to put again mask, when everybody should have understood all vaccines and even 1 or 2 boosters don t stop still very big spreading and too many deaths. I was often told for some complicated jobs, only result counts, do as you want but get result we expect. I agree vaccine saved many millions lives but not efficient versus spreading which still kill a lot. Not good enough result, not killing virus, when lowering our economy except for cheap low quality China.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2652513]The Omicron vaccine is coming out in March so everyone who is vaccinated how will not be vaccinated in March and need a new Omicron vaccine.[/QUOTE]New US Novavax is told to be allowed very soon in EU, I don t think for booster which are ARN in France, but didn't hear about vaccine able to stop Omicron spreading. 2 doses are enough making me sick, to buy my pass to be free. I don t want more, but if ever somebody find something to stop spreading and to kill thousands daily, then I can risk to take this new one after validation for health, when covid killed so many, so many are handicaped after. When should be around 6 millions deaths and so many consequences, when I was shocked when Macron told about war on March 2020 , but he was right, World lost war versus covid, having so many deaths and injured who will never recover. Would be good if new vaccine to protect and then no more risk versus covid mutants for whole life, or at least only 1 dose yearly for weak and at risk, but not for only 3/4 months, when even old people who need to be protected are bored about many doses in less than 1 year.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2652444]It would probably sell less vehicles it was called an Edison.[/QUOTE]Maybe they can be marketed to all of those hot North Korean women you know.

Looking at the G7 nations, we've mostly cleared the winter Omicron peak. USA, UK, Italy, France, Canada all appear to have crossed the peak. Germany looks like it's right at the peak with Japan hardly ever seeing much of a rise:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-09-03..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~DEU~GBR~FRA[/URL]

Good thing Germany hasn't seen a budge in deaths. Neither has Japan:

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-11-22..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~DEU~GBR~FRA~ITA~CAN~JPN[/URL]

Get boosted. Keep omicron an upper respiratory function rather than a pneumonia with long term effects.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2652513]The Omicron vaccine is coming out in March so everyone who is vaccinated how will not be vaccinated in March and need a new Omicron vaccine.[/QUOTE]But there was no vaccine for the more potent Delta.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652519]If you want we can compare our for mathematics graduation level. In France, engineers in best schools, not from universities, are on higher level than doctors even studying for more years who were usually not the best at maths nor physics at school, or even than teachers in mathematics who were not on level to reach engineers schools. I so often heard medical telling: we don't know, we can t do anything, when You can t say this as engineer, if You are not able to always find a solution, then You are not engineer. What I know is massive vaccination started 1 year ago with 3 doses in less than 1 year and starting already to tell about second booster for fourth dose, but highest ever spreading since start 2 years ago and still high rate for deaths. Despite vaccine, Hessen and Bavaria close brothels again, we are asked in Paris to put again mask, when everybody should have understood all vaccines and even 1 or 2 boosters don t stop still very big spreading and too many deaths. I was often told for some complicated jobs, only result counts, do as you want but get result we expect. I agree vaccine saved many millions lives but not efficient versus spreading which still kill a lot. Not good enough result, not killing virus, when lowering our economy except for cheap low quality China.[/QUOTE]No need. Your inability to incorporate simple proportions into your assertions says it all.

And you're not a real engineer, just a glorified construction foreman.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2652513]The Omicron vaccine is coming out in March so everyone who is vaccinated how will not be vaccinated in March and need a new Omicron vaccine.[/QUOTE]Nearly everyone will have had Omicron by then as to not need a vaccine.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652377]English was a second language for you, wasn't it? Reading sarcasm must be difficult. I get it, truly. But I decided to just got better at it. Good luck. Just try harder little' tike.[/QUOTE]The only thing you are good is catching e-coli at a Tijuana cafeteria. Then spewing it all over ISG with nonsensical replies.

Only then not to realize this is just the internet.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652643]No need. Your inability to incorporate simple proportions into your assertions says it all.

And you're not a real engineer, just a glorified construction foreman.[/QUOTE]I'm for sure higher level engineer than your level for medical. I understand better when reading you, why US are number 1 for covid deaths and will be for sure many more deaths under Omicron in US and not only because of fat.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652612]Looking at the G7 nations, we've mostly cleared the winter Omicron peak. USA, UK, Italy, France, Canada all appear to have crossed the peak. Germany looks like it's right at the peak with Japan hardly ever seeing much of a rise:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-09-03..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~DEU~GBR~FRA[/URL]

Good thing Germany hasn't seen a budge in deaths. Neither has Japan:

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-11-22..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~DEU~GBR~FRA~ITA~CAN~JPN[/URL]

Get boosted. Keep omicron an upper respiratory function rather than a pneumonia with long term effects.[/QUOTE]Not decreasing yet in France with many full hospitals, still increasing in Germany, nobody trust anymore UK and crazy Johnson when more than 300 daily deaths on average and they are now allowed to enter EU. Catastrophe for deaths at the moment in US, more than 2000 known daily on average.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652674]I'm for sure higher level engineer than your level for medical. I understand better when reading you, why US are number 1 for covid deaths and will be for sure many more deaths under Omicron in US and not only because of fat.[/QUOTE]Construction dudes engineer things but aren't really high level professional engineers. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652668]The only thing you are good is catching e-coli at a Tijuana cafeteria. Then spewing it all over ISG with nonsensical replies.[/QUOTE]Pretty good at reminding you that you're an unfortunate looking man with a mediocre income that's dependent on a kissing a boss's ass and no power whatsoever in his society. We call that failing to be a real man.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652685]Not decreasing yet in France with many full hospitals, still increasing in Germany, nobody trust anymore UK and crazy Johnson when more than 300 daily deaths on average and they are now allowed to enter EU. Catastrophe for deaths at the moment in US, more than 2000 known daily on average.[/QUOTE]Just like how you choose to trust wherever is you choose to get outdated statistics, I'll trust the data keeping of the World Health Organization over a French construction foreman. According to them, peak cases was on 13 January with 7 day average declining since.

[URL] https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/fr[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652647]Nearly everyone will have had Omicron by then as to not need a vaccine.[/QUOTE]Truth.

But I am still worried about travel requirements to DE. Just discovered that Americans can travel to Canada with single J&J and skull fuck test. Novavax being manufactured in Quebec, so hopefully north I go.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652762]Pretty good at reminding you that you're an unfortunate looking man with a mediocre income that's dependent on a kissing a boss's ass and no power whatsoever in his society. We call that failing to be a real man.[/QUOTE]Where I am from real men are defined by their cock size and how much they lift in benchpress. (without anabolics).

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652647]Nearly everyone will have had Omicron by then as to not need a vaccine.[/QUOTE]Oh, believe me, you will need 10 dosages!

[URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-19-pandemic-nowhere-near-over-who-chief-says/[/URL]

'New variants are likely to emerge'.

**brings out the popcorn*.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652768]Just like how you choose to trust wherever is you choose to get outdated statistics, I'll trust the data keeping of the World Health Organization over a French construction foreman. According to them, peak cases was on 13 January with 7 day average declining since.

[URL] https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/fr[/URL][/QUOTE]French daily information, listening different channels, versus a so low wise medical who is not even able to notice about hands, when for sure not able to know about expert, about job not about FKK. I wish for You You are on a bit higher level for women anatomy. Unfortunately for us, 375 covid deaths in France yesterday. More than 435 in UK. Nearly 3000 known deaths and more than 1 million known new cases in US. You are right, real figures just before show big improvement, when as expert engineer now paid to achieve what others are not able, they never give me easy task newbie can do for less expensive, only result count in my job when I m judged about efficiency and even under covid, in the cold. I will give You a news: pretty sure Hessen won t reopen so soon, not my decision from my knowledge, but Germans decided, when was opened for nearly 7 months. They must have a good reason to close, maybe to have lowest deaths rate than catastrophe now in US which should have more than 50000 known deaths under Omicron for first month of the year, with Pfizer, Moderna, such efficiency for results.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652643]No need. Your inability to incorporate simple proportions into your assertions says it all.

And you're not a real engineer, just a glorified construction foreman.[/QUOTE]When girls look at my hands, some to check if true when I answer I m not married when most don t believe me. When they ask about my job, I never answer I m a businessman when I m judged about money I create from projects I have to make efficient and I m paid according to this, but I'm more proud of part of world created I manage. Girls most often understand I m architect, I always correct: no I m not, I manage them to achieve, I should add: more and more often, I do instead of them for better efficiency for time and money rate. I love my job which need efficiency, often having to clean projects which can t work, to make them live. Most of time paid for cleaning and solving.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652760]Construction dudes engineer things but aren't really high level professional engineers. Sorry.[/QUOTE]Construction engineers are bottom of the barrel in any engineering schools. Although I seriously doubt he has an engineering degree from a university. That would require him to be capable of logical thinking, which is clearly not the case.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652793]Where I am from real men are defined by their cock size and how much they lift in benchpress. (without anabolics).[/QUOTE]Isn't that a cute alternative reality. You're ugly, poor, and employed by a more powerful man. Basically a cuck.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652793]Where I am from real men are defined by their cock size and how much they lift in benchpress. (without anabolics).[/QUOTE]You live in the lockers of an 'homo only' gym? They use you as their *****?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652914]When girls look at my hands, some to check if true when I answer I m not married when most don t believe me. When they ask about my job, I never answer I m a businessman when I m judged about money I create from projects I have to make efficient and I m paid according to this, but I'm more proud of part of world created I manage. Girls most often understand I m architect, I always correct: no I m not, I manage them to achieve, I should add: more and more often, I do instead of them for better efficiency for time and money rate. I love my job which need efficiency, often having to clean projects which can t work, to make them live. Most of time paid for cleaning and solving.[/QUOTE]I went to Georgia Institute of Technology after high school. The order of prestige and ability went:

1. High level Engineering and Architecture majors.

2. Civil Engineers and Industrial Engineers.

3. Management and Building Construction majors (not actual engineers).

Seems like you fall in the latter group. Good for you for going to college.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2652991]Construction engineers are bottom of the barrel in any engineering schools. Although I seriously doubt he has an engineering degree from a university. That would require him to be capable of logical thinking, which is clearly not the case.[/QUOTE]Building Construction was the major we had for people who couldn't get into the more prestigious architecture program. Others who couldn't hack architecture went into civil engineering where they learned the most optimal place to put fire alarms and fire hydrants. They had the most important job of making sure things were up to code like ensuring that the light switch was only 1 meter from a door and not 1. 1 meters. Challenging work I'm sure.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2652332]And I think Hessen may not reopen so soon. I surprised NRW is still open, when Bavaria is closed since a while.[/QUOTE]Unless they amend rules to look at hospitalizations and deaths like they are in NRW, Hessen will probably not open before March, maybe even April.

Hospital cases still going down since beginning of December. Deaths going down since Christmas. Maybe small increase with Omicron.

Summary:

If Hessen change rules to look at Hospital patients, Sharks can open immediately, if only looking at cases, March / April.

I don't think they will change.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652796]Oh, believe me, you will need 10 dosages!

[URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-19-pandemic-nowhere-near-over-who-chief-says/[/URL]

'New variants are likely to emerge'.

**brings out the popcorn*.[/QUOTE]Medical need, not political need.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2652996]You live in the lockers of an 'homo only' gym? They use you as their *****?[/QUOTE]Real men with big dicks and benchpresses, I think maybe he's describing his prison days spent being Big Tyrone's fuck hole.

I thought you were Norwegian?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2652793]Where I am from real men are defined by their cock size and how much they lift in benchpress. (without anabolics).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653032]Unless they amend rules to look at hospitalizations and deaths like they are in NRW, Hessen will probably not open before March, maybe even April.

Hospital cases still going down since beginning of December. Deaths going down since Christmas. Maybe small increase with Omicron.

Summary:

If Hessen change rules to look at Hospital patients, Sharks can open immediately, if only looking at cases, March / April.

I don't think they will change.[/QUOTE]240 deaths and 120000 new cases yesterday in Germany, more than under flu.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2652996]You live in the lockers of an 'homo only' gym? They use you as their *****?[/QUOTE]You and your weired gay fantasies.

I believe there are special forums for your type.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653034]Medical need, not political need.[/QUOTE]Of course it is medical. How dumb are you?

It will be good to have you on a BMI leech though!

According to Ray Kurzweil you will be a fool if you want to live outside of the virtual world in the future anyway!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2652995]Isn't that a cute alternative reality. You're ugly, poor, and employed by a more powerful man. Basically a cuck.[/QUOTE]Actually a woman employed me. You on the other hand probably had to suck on a cock.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653025]I went to Georgia Institute of Technology after high school. The order of prestige and ability went:

1. High level Engineering and Architecture majors.

2. Civil Engineers and Industrial Engineers.

3. Management and Building Construction majors (not actual engineers).

Seems like you fall in the latter group. Good for you for going to college.[/QUOTE]In France, some engineers schools are higher ranked than all our universities or architecture schools, best at school don't go to university but to best engineers or business schools and I was in one of the 10 best engineers schools in France on late 80's, with higher level than now. And as told my mum and some teachers: you could have better, but you like too much ski and cars, they were right. I didn't learn efficiency at any school but with cars, starting with my first H3 E21 which was engineered prepared in Germany when I bought but I improved more with race injectors and air filter for nearly 30 power more, that s why I m so efficient to make money in my job, what is result expected, always looking for performance.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653032]Unless they amend rules to look at hospitalizations and deaths like they are in NRW, Hessen will probably not open before March, maybe even April.

Hospital cases still going down since beginning of December. Deaths going down since Christmas. Maybe small increase with Omicron.

Summary:

If Hessen change rules to look at Hospital patients, Sharks can open immediately, if only looking at cases, March / April.

I don't think they will change.[/QUOTE]Why do you think it will not change?

The Hotspot rule ((As soon as the incidence of infection in a county exceeds 350 for three consecutive days, additional "hotspot regulations" take effect locally from the next day)) is valid until February I think (not sure which date) , they have to agree to extend it after that , which make no sense if hospitalizations and deaths didn't go up!

I just don't know what do expect in this crazy time they call ((Pandemic)).

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2653111]Why do you think it will not change?

The Hotspot rule ((As soon as the incidence of infection in a county exceeds 350 for three consecutive days, additional "hotspot regulations" take effect locally from the next day)) is valid until February I think (not sure which date) , they have to agree to extend it after that , which make no sense if hospitalizations and deaths didn't go up!

I just don't know what do expect in this crazy time they call ((Pandemic)).[/QUOTE]Germans have always been slow to change once they've started something.

But I wasn't aware of an expiration date on the Hessen mandate. If so, I'm less pessimistic about my assumption. For now though, I plan on being in Europe soon and will keep Frankfurt off my itinerary unless it changes in the next few weeks.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653025]I went to Georgia Institute of Technology after high school. The order of prestige and ability went:

1. High level Engineering and Architecture majors.

2. Civil Engineers and Industrial Engineers.

3. Management and Building Construction majors (not actual engineers).

Seems like you fall in the latter group. Good for you for going to college.[/QUOTE]What about "Majoring in literature, media and communications"? Couple of the football team players. I guess this means Georgia Tech thinks those are joke majors?

Something to be said about case numbers, specifically Germany's relatively low cases. In fact, oddly much lower than all of their bordering nations to the east, west, north, and south.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL]

Are the Germans that much better at controlling the virus or is it that they just don't test at every opportunity? Test numbers are also the lowest in the region:

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Tests&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL]

On further inspection against their neighbors, their positive result rate is second only to Switzerland, meaning they are less likely to perform screening tests and more likely to perform diagnostic testing. Therefore less asymptomatic positive cases being caught.

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Share+of+positive+tests&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL]

My optimistic conclusion:

Omicron is even more widespread in Germany than numbers suggests because asymptomatic cases are not being tested and recorded. With hospitalizations and deaths continuing to decline, Omicron is not having much of an effect on the German healthcare burden. This is actually really good news for Germany as they are likely pretty deep into the Omicron surge and that much closer to the end of the surge.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653106]In France, some engineers schools are higher ranked than all our universities or architecture schools, best at school don't go to university but to best engineers or business schools and I was in one of the 10 best engineers schools in France on late 80's, with higher level than now. And as told my mum and some teachers: you could have better, but you like too much ski and cars, they were right. I didn't learn efficiency at any school but with cars, starting with my first H3 E21 which was engineered prepared in Germany when I bought but I improved more with race injectors and air filter for nearly 30 power more, that s why I m so efficient to make money in my job, what is result expected, always looking for performance.[/QUOTE]Don't care how you got here. Just don't install my toilet so close the the bathtub next time.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653093]240 deaths and 120000 new cases yesterday in Germany, more than under flu.[/QUOTE]239 deaths on 18 January.

Which is less than 600 death one week before that (11 Jan) and less than 350 2 weeks before (4 Jan). Deaths in Germany going down. You should have spend less time with cars and ski and more time paying attention in school to see a bigger picture.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653140]Something to be said about case numbers, specifically Germany's relatively low cases. In fact, oddly much lower than all of their bordering nations to the east, west, north, and south.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL]

Are the Germans that much better at controlling the virus or is it that they just don't test at every opportunity? Test numbers are also the lowest in the region:

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Tests&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL].[/QUOTE]Everyone in Germany needs to sacrifice for the sake of FKK. They need to avoid all covid testing except if a schnelltest required to enter an FKK. All these people testing at hospitals and doctors can just buy a can of oxygen and wait it out at home instead.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2653134]What about "Majoring in literature, media and communications"? Couple of the football team players. I guess this means Georgia Tech thinks those are joke majors?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't dog my literature friends as they're a different type of smart. Respectable.

But yeah, media and communications, joke degrees where we hid big dumb guys.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653140]Something to be said about case numbers, specifically Germany's relatively low cases. In fact, oddly much lower than all of their bordering nations to the east, west, north, and south.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL]

Are the Germans that much better at controlling the virus or is it that they just don't test at every opportunity? Test numbers are also the lowest in the region:

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-04-03..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Tests&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=DEU~FRA~AUT~DNK~CHE~CZE[/URL].[/QUOTE]True, Germany have less new cases than France when French are crazy to test very often, kind of 1 million tests daily. No test for me since 9 December at Sharks, booster was enough just to buy my freedom, before buying points for my driving license. But many positive will always make deaths and I'm fully sure Germans think 239 on a day are way too much, some landers closing risky places like brothels, or no vaccine = not entering shops. I don't remember hearing same about flu.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653120]Germans have always been slow to change once they've started something.

But I wasn't aware of an expiration date on the Hessen mandate. If so, I'm less pessimistic about my assumption. For now though, I plan on being in Europe soon and will keep Frankfurt off my itinerary unless it changes in the next few weeks.[/QUOTE]Remember Hessen remained closed whole 2020 when NRW reopened for around 2 months.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653155]Don't care how you got here. Just don't install my toilet so close the the bathtub next time.[/QUOTE]You have to understand from your US and internet you know so few about EU and you can ask your French friend here, my obsessed follower since 2013 who can't experience same than me, in France, engineers schools like mine are far higher selection than universities and even our best like Dauphine, or medical studies, or architecture, even shorter to become engineer than doctor, 5 years after high school but highest selection on end of high school. When architects make plans, I most often need to correct, improve for technique and cost, to make their paper becoming real, having life rather than just paper, giving stars in eyes to people who project their future life in the place. When I see no brained sporty in US universities, when I remember brain performances tests for how fast you can find a solution in Math sup / Math spe in famous Saint Louis school when I was only 18, for sure I preferred to go to see Depeche mode in concert or run to ski and as soon I made enough money working on most of my Summer holidays, to buy a really sporty car reaching 220 on late 80's when I was just a bit more than 20 and already loving and pushing speed. 4 years later, fell in love for legendary RS500, even crashed, but I knew she was for me, rebuilt, improved and for nearly 25 years of my life. A real engineer able to build with his brain.

[URL]https://youtu.be/VVxmAIKjYM4[/URL]

Well, even if 3 or 4 jabs doesn't seem to be working for anything except increasing the all cause mortality rates and a slew of adverse effects, there is still a great reason to keep going and vaccinate more!

And that reason is all about giving BigB, PiZ and Escape Artist their eventual 10th jab!

Cause they won't escape that one! Soon!

3700 known deaths yesterday in US under Omicron. About 470 for 2 last days in Germany. More than 300 daily in UK since beginning of year, 360 yesterday. 435000 new cases in France yesterday, our record ever since start, when France make more test than Germany or UK, I don't know why? Kind of panic when I don't. Omicron is spreading more and more, killing more and more according to figures even in vaccination high rate countries like UK or Germany or France. Not finished yet and quite logical after Christmas / new year party. Will be under control for me when less than 100 daily deaths for weeks in Germany or France. More complicated for UK and US are really down under once more, but just normal with their medical level. Internet was never truth, the field like the steep are the truth, then You know some less than 65 kgs bicycle racers go downhill at more than 100 km / h on 12/13 % steep, just for dynamics and knowledge about, like about probability = more cases, more deaths.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653161]Wouldn't dog my literature friends as they're a different type of smart. Respectable.

But yeah, media and communications, joke degrees where we hid big dumb guys.[/QUOTE]Or smart enough to evade the quackzine.

Good luck on the next jab!

News of the week is the new BA 2 variant of omicron. Spread faster and is more dangerous than the original omicron. Especially among the over 60 demographic crowds who just randomly also happened to receive their 3rd or 4th shots in countries like Israel and Denmark.

As a communication guy I advice Escape Artist to get his 5th jab before the end of may!

I mean. The new omicron vaccine will be primarily suited towards the BA1 variant. Not the BA2 variant. So you will first need one for BA1. And then wait a bit longer for the additional BA2 booster!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653268]You have to understand from your US and internet you know so few about EU and you can ask your French friend here, my obsessed follower since 2013 who can't experience same than me, in France, engineers schools like mine are far higher selection than universities and even our best like Dauphine, or medical studies, or architecture, even shorter to become engineer than doctor, 5 years after high school but highest selection on end of high school. When architects make plans, I most often need to correct, improve for technique and cost, to make their paper[/QUOTE]Just install the toilet better next time.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2653419]Or smart enough to evade the quackzine.

Good luck on the next jab!

News of the week is the new BA 2 variant of omicron. Spread faster and is more dangerous than the original omicron. Especially among the over 60 demographic crowds who just randomly also happened to receive their 3rd or 4th shots in countries like Israel and Denmark.

As a communication guy I advice Escape Artist to get his 5th jab before the end of may![/QUOTE]A comm guy who sucks at communication. Sort of like failing Kindergarten.

Still alive.

Maybe I infected someone who infected someone who infected someone who infected someone. Who infected someone who is happy to be dead now.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653268]engineers schools like mine are far higher selection....[/QUOTE]Sure you went to a high level engineering school. Just as credible as a mid fifties guy claiming he is fitter than an active triple world champion. Everybody believes you.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2653421]I mean. The new omicron vaccine will be primarily suited towards the BA1 variant. Not the BA2 variant. So you will first need one for BA1. And then wait a bit longer for the additional BA2 booster![/QUOTE]Why someone chooses to to promote bad information and sew chaos without even any appreciable benefit to themselves escapes me.

Maybe this viking reject is a Loki cultist.

Daily covid reports in Germany, directly from their disease control authority, Robert Koch Institute:

Cases leveling off. R_value approaching 1, meaning rate of growth / spread is barely increasing. Meanwhile, daily hospitalization, ICU hospitalizations, and daily deaths still decreasing despite rising positive cases. Covid positive patients only taking up less than 11.4% of hospital ICU patients.

Trends (in German):

[URL] https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/COVID-19-Trends/COVID-19-Trends.html?__blob=publicationFile#/home[/URL]

Daily Summary (in English):

[URL]https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/Jan_2022/2022-01-20-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile[/URL]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2653565]Sure you went to a high level engineering school. Just as credible as a mid fifties guy claiming he is fitter than an active triple world champion. Everybody believes you.[/QUOTE]Would it really matter if he attended a high level engineering school? 800 years ago for that matter. In the end, he chose to study the least challenging discipline that could have been learned at a local small college for much less tuition.

It's kind of like going to the best steak restaurant in town and ordering a hamburger. You didn't really get the true experience but you would be dumb for wasting so much money just to say you were there.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653510]A comm guy who sucks at communication. Sort of like failing Kindergarten.[/QUOTE]Good enough for the mass hypocracy hysreria crowds like you are a part of.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653510]A comm guy who sucks at communication. Sort of like failing Kindergarten.[/QUOTE]Or are you saying you won't be taking the next few boosters?

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2653542]Still alive.

Maybe I infected someone who infected someone who infected someone who infected someone. Who infected someone who is happy to be dead now.[/QUOTE]Stupid ideas can be very contagious actually. Just ask the ccp.

Proof:

[URL]https://youtu.be/4wZ-vqiPBM8[/URL]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2653565]Sure you went to a high level engineering school. Just as credible as a mid fifties guy claiming he is fitter than an active triple world champion. Everybody believes you.[/QUOTE]As I told you I would like to see too heavy Sagan and you also in Zoncolan, when I saw how he was in trouble in Loze and he would have been off race without gruppetto helping him, when was not so difficult when I repeated on Ocrober. At end of high school at 17/18 yo, math sup was for less than 0,5% and I don t even know for Saint Louis when I didn't want to go to Louis LE Grand where I was accepted, I probably made a mistake but I was not prepared at this time, too young for too much pressure. My mother thought she made a race horse, when I wanted pleasure.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653344]3700 known deaths yesterday in US under Omicron. About 470 for 2 last days in Germany. More than 300 daily in UK since beginning of year, 360 yesterday. 435000 new cases in France yesterday, our record ever since start, when France make more test than Germany or UK, I don't know why? Kind of panic when I don't. Omicron is spreading more and more, killing more and more according to figures even in vaccination high rate countries like UK or Germany or France. Not finished yet and quite logical after Christmas / new year party. Will be under control for me when less than 100 daily deaths for weeks in Germany or France. More complicated for UK and US are really down under once more, but just normal with their medical level. Internet was never truth, the field like the steep are the truth, then You know some less than 65 kgs bicycle racers go downhill at more than 100 km / h on 12/13 % steep, just for dynamics and knowledge about, like about probability = more cases, more deaths.[/QUOTE]Again 2670 known deaths in US yesterday, more than 6300 deaths for 2 last days, and also 330 yesterday in UK despite vaccine, under Omicron still killing a lot. Real sniper.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2653563]But it is good thing, these western people colonizing to help fuck up all these nations lead to our international mixed race line up in German FKK LOL! They immigrate to Germany and they face racial discrimination, so not good job most of time and children cannot afford things they see on tv or magazine etc, they want it, then pimp come and allure them for easy money in FKK, and voila, here we mongers are with our swinging dick with 50 euros on our hands LOL!

These western imperialism helped to fed FKK line up and created the monger super star aka 50 Euro LOL![/QUOTE]So what did Comrade Stalin contribute to FKK?

Biden approval hits new low at one-year mark: AP-NORC poll ([URL]https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-business-health-inflation-6b6b0abfef867fc405e9f358ce2c3a09[/URL]).

"More Americans disapprove than approve of how Biden is handling his job as president, 56% to 43%. As of now, just 28% of Americans say they want Biden to run for reelection in 2024, including only 48% of Democrats."

Good news is the relatively smarter Americans are understanding the huge mistake they made in Nov 2020, so hopefully things will be better again in 2023.

You might ask how does it matter to us here FKK-loving mongers? It does, because American politics still influences a lot of World politics. Like in many other countries, German politicians, media and citizens also take cues and get brainwashed by similar sets of propagandas, and which eventually puts us into this current clusterfuck of a situation of all these FKKs now closed! If you want FKKs open without these meaningless closures, please think twice to vote correctly next time, whether in USA, Germany, Austria or Switzerland or anywhere for that matter. You don't have to admit here that you made a mistake in voting in last election, just do the right thing that will keep the FKKs open, like everything is open in Florida, Texas, Tennessee or even in UK now. Thank you!

Note: In case you didn't know, in many strip clubs in Florida and Texas you can get full service from almost all strippers without costing your arms and legs, and some of these strippers (eg Russian immigrant or 2nd gen strippers in South Florida IME) are pretty hot too. So if you're a frustrated sex-starved American with not much game and living in a Nazi democrat run state, you still have some options to easily get laid in those nice Republican run open states.

You're welcome!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653653]Would it really matter if he attended a high level engineering school?[/QUOTE]I expect people who graduate from a high level engineering school to be able to write a logical paragraph. There is plenty of evidence that proves the opposite.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2653805]I expect people who graduate from a high level engineering school to be able to write a logical paragraph. There is plenty of evidence that proves the opposite.[/QUOTE]You need to lower your expectations for any online forum that doesn't do background check.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2653776]Biden approval hits new low at one-year mark: AP-NORC poll ([URL]https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-business-health-inflation-6b6b0abfef867fc405e9f358ce2c3a09[/URL]).[/QUOTE]You're right.

[URL]https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/one-year-in-bidens-approval-rating-is-in-troubleonly-trumps-was-lower/[/URL]

Only little problem, your favorite clown Trump was even lower! And without coronavirus!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2653805]I expect people who graduate from a high level engineering school to be able to write a logical paragraph. There is plenty of evidence that proves the opposite.[/QUOTE]Say the high cleverness guy who write repeating all what he is sent by my French obsessed follower since 2013 he doesn't even know and never met. You should ask him about Saint Louis I chose rather than Louis LE Grand, for level of selection there, when I m pretty sure he was not on this level. This is like Ingo only chose higher than 177 supermodels at Globe who would love to please guys, rather than his second ranking casting.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653640]Daily covid reports in Germany, directly from their disease control authority, Robert Koch Institute:

Cases leveling off. R_value approaching 1, meaning rate of growth / spread is barely increasing. Meanwhile, daily hospitalization, ICU hospitalizations, and daily deaths still decreasing despite rising positive cases. Covid positive patients only taking up less than 11.4% of hospital ICU patients.

Trends (in German):

[URL] https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/COVID-19-Trends/COVID-19-Trends.html?__blob=publicationFile#/home[/URL]

Daily Summary (in English):

[URL]https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/Jan_2022/2022-01-20-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile[/URL][/QUOTE]400 deaths for 2 last days, I knew them better, even they don't anymore always win at the end for football, since a while.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2653866]You're right.

[URL]https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/one-year-in-bidens-approval-rating-is-in-troubleonly-trumps-was-lower/[/URL]

Only little problem, your favorite clown Trump was even lower! And without coronavirus![/QUOTE]You must be enjoying the FKK lockdowns by the type of politicians you support? Do you really? If yes, why tf are you even on this FKK forum so much? If no, get your acts together to support the politicians who will open the FKKs, like everything is open in Florida, Texas etc, get it BigBuddy? Shouldn't be too complicated even for you LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2653664]Or are you saying you won't be taking the next few boosters?[/QUOTE]I will take it if it his warranted. But currently no reason in sight to take another booster anytime soon.

That's what logical people do, assess situations and make educated decisions based on available and up to date information, not argue ideological stances without authentic consideration of changing situations.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2653622]Why someone chooses to to promote bad information and sew chaos without even any appreciable benefit to themselves escapes me.

Maybe this viking reject is a Loki cultist.[/QUOTE]But vaccines are good for you.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2653756]So what did Comrade Stalin contribute to FKK?[/QUOTE]Stalin and Lenin messed up their nation to great extent in long run though Stalin did have successful industrial revolution in mid term, but in long run, look at russia now, they got nothing, but oil, gas, metal and military, first three are nature given and last one is not right way to use, but military is all they got, so they use it fully to try to control the global politic as we are seeing today with Ukraine which may benefit us mongers if Ukrainian can travel to german FKK as refugee visa upon attack of russia which will happen soon or later as long as Nato put pressure on russia LOL!

And ah, during perestroika years, whatta mongering scene it must have been LOL!! I was first in almaty in 1999 as my first visit to eastern europe and I tasted quite many russian top stunners, and they are among the best in bed and looks LOL!

Communism did not work, but they did play part improving mongering scene line up LOL!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653726]Again 2670 known deaths in US yesterday, more than 6300 deaths for 2 last days, and also 330 yesterday in UK despite vaccine, under Omicron still killing a lot. Real sniper.[/QUOTE]Pfizer are so sure about their vaccine efficiency versus Omicron sniper killing so many thousands US and also in UK and EU. After 2 doses and booster in around 6 months, but now also 3 pills twice per day for 5 days if You catch so sweet Omicron, US ordering 20 millions pills, when lack of efficiency give more business, Pfizer are really strong when I would lose my contracts if I was not able to produce efficiency reaching goals which are expected. And they will also make us pills addict. I don t understand the need if Omicron is so weak, then just face it and fuck it with your own little soldiers making best protection, what I would have preferred if I didn't have to buy my pass for freedom. US don t seem to trust so much Pfizer vaccine efficiency nor to think Omicron is so weak, to order so many millions pills. And what else after for never ending story as sang so good Black woman with Limalh.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654029]I will take it if it his warranted. But currently no reason in sight to take another booster anytime soon.

That's what logical people do, assess situations and make educated decisions based on available and up to date information, not argue ideological stances without authentic consideration of changing situations.[/QUOTE]Pfizer already assessed the situation for you and when the March Omicron vaccine comes you Pfizer will give you the information that forces you to take it.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2654007]You must be enjoying the FKK lockdowns by the type of politicians you support? Do you really? If yes, why tf are you even on this FKK forum so much? If no, get your acts together to support the politicians who will open the FKKs, like everything is open in Florida, Texas etc, get it BigBuddy? Shouldn't be too complicated even for you LOL.[/QUOTE]Keep calm Bitumen, you're going to blow your cover.

Your beloved trump did even worse than Biden in the approval rating, so don't take this for an argument.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653887]You should ask him about Saint Louis...[/QUOTE]So you peaked in high school then. How does it feel to be an underachiever in life?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2653664]Or are you saying you won't be taking the next few boosters?[/QUOTE]Already starting to tell about second booster only few months after first, in Israel and some Western EU countries, when already 3 doses in around 6 months, could be 4 in less than 1 year and still many deaths when old, weak and at risk should now be vaccinated. Should be not far from 50000 known deaths in number 1 US only on this year with nearly 4000 only yesterday, I wonder if they ever had more deaths on previous Winter than under Omicron which is more killer than Al Qaida and Daech. Help CIA, US are down under Omicron.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2654066]....Communism did not work, but they did play part improving mongering scene line up LOL![/QUOTE]Not so in China. Some of my best mongering experiences were in China prior to 2014, then the communist party shut down the p4 p scene. Now no one goes to China for mongering.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654105]Keep calm Bitumen, you're going to blow your cover.

Your beloved trump did even worse than Biden in the approval rating, so don't take this for an argument.[/QUOTE]OK this is hilarious! I say why we all on this FKK forum should vote for types of politicians who would let FKKs stay open as opposed to the Nazis who keep forcing FKKs to close, and stupids like Big Buddy keeps going tangent on Trump's popularity and other shit! WTF? Don't these people on this forum want FKKs to stay open?

BTW, side note, Trump's popularity was low because of stupids like these people who didn't know what's good for themselves. Some of them now seem to have learned from their mistakes, but sadly not all, big example being people like Big Buddy, Pessimist etc here who keep supporting the politicians who loves to shutdown FKKs.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2654097]Pfizer already assessed the situation for you and when the March Omicron vaccine comes you Pfizer will give you the information that forces you to take it.[/QUOTE]In my country and especially my part of the country, we still have rights.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2654140]Already starting to tell about second booster only few months after first, in Israel and some Western EU countries, when already 3 doses in around 6 months, could be 4 in less than 1 year and still many deaths when old, weak and at risk should now be vaccinated. Should be not far from 50000 known deaths in number 1 US only on this year with nearly 4000 only yesterday, I wonder if they ever had more deaths on previous Winter than under Omicron which is more killer than Al Qaida and Daech. Help CIA, US are down under Omicron.[/QUOTE]Well, excess deaths is still equal among the vaxxed and non vaxxed. And in tiny New Zealand who had 0 covid cases, data clearly shows that the vaccines themselves caused 670 deaths within a few months last fall. Not even discussing all the side effects caused by the nanoparticles toxic effect, which by the way is released through the lungs.

But the vaccine is good for idiots.

Also WEFs new policy is to focus on the metaverse. Not Facebook's metaverse, but a global metaverse. And DARPA's brainstorms project is well underway. Even officially. Wonder what is unofficial. Actually I know, but people don't trust, so I am just joking about it instead.

Fools will always be fools. And I bet you they will now believe the side effects are all psychological.

Total mindcontrol!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2654125]So you peaked in high school then. How does it feel to be an underachiever in life?[/QUOTE]It was before the severe head trauma.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2654125]So you peaked in high school then. How does it feel to be an underachiever in life?[/QUOTE]What do you know for real? When only repeating. As I told Swiss administration and immigration, I don't need small Switzerland, but you are not even Swiss born, just Skippy.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2654246]You might have had the Rona brother. Sore throat is a more prominent symptom of the omicron. But who knows? The testing is crap, IMO.[/QUOTE]I was looking in to this theory. The sore throat was bad for three days. And if it was strep it would have gotten better within starting the Zithromax. And I don't get sore throats every since tonsils were removed. The new Omicron I think is worse than the original Covid since the original Covid would be outflanked by not smoking, aerobic conditioning before getting sick, staying rested, and hydration and decongenstants. But with a sore throat caused by a virus that concentrates in the throat. This is actually much worse than the lungs since there is no way to condition your throat for the battle. Other than taking out tonsils which were already done on my case. Really never since tonsils were removed did I have a sore throat this bad.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2654207]OK this is hilarious! I say why we all on this FKK forum should vote for types of politicians who would let FKKs stay open as opposed to the Nazis who keep forcing FKKs to close, and stupids like Big Buddy keeps going tangent on Trump's popularity and other shit! WTF? Don't these people on this forum want FKKs to stay open?

BTW, side note, Trump's popularity was low because of stupids like these people who didn't know what's good for themselves. Some of them now seem to have learned from their mistakes, but sadly not all, big example being people like Big Buddy, Pessimist etc here who keep supporting the politicians who loves to shutdown FKKs.[/QUOTE]Well you don't actually visit FKKs no? You just go to Luscoust and co to make up fake reviews, then you pretend to fuck the girls without condom with the help of some stupid joke, then to fuck the girls for free when their workday is over, then to go to swingers clubs in France and to fuck all the hot girls. So many things for a guy who came out of nowhere and never really wrote a factual report. So I couldn't care less about what you say, Bitumen.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654227]Well, excess deaths is still equal among the vaxxed and non vaxxed. And in tiny New Zealand who had 0 covid cases, data clearly shows that the vaccines themselves caused 670 deaths within a few months last fall. Not even discussing all the side effects caused by the nanoparticles toxic effect, which by the way is released through the lungs.[/QUOTE]Ultimate stupidity as usual.

[URL]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-39.asp[/URL]#death.

Where are your sources, some white supremacist Facebook page? Who happens to be a social reject living in mommy's basement?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654325]Well you don't actually visit FKKs no? You just go to Luscoust and co to make up fake reviews, then you pretend to fuck the girls without condom with the help of some stupid joke, then to fuck the girls for free when their workday is over, then to go to swingers clubs in France and to fuck all the hot girls. So many things for a guy who came out of nowhere and never really wrote a factual report. So I couldn't care less about what you say, Bitumen.[/QUOTE]I don't know nor care about his FKK real visits, but I agree for a faker here. And I never met Bitumen whatever he can say.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654325]Well you don't actually visit FKKs no? You just go to Luscoust and co to make up fake reviews, then you pretend to fuck the girls without condom with the help of some stupid joke, then to fuck the girls for free when their workday is over, then to go to swingers clubs in France and to fuck all the hot girls. So many things for a guy who came out of nowhere and never really wrote a factual report. So I couldn't care less about what you say, Bitumen.[/QUOTE]Dude,

You really want to challenge on real FKK visits? You sure Big Buddy (doesn't seem like that big LOL)? If yes, let's post some pics or vids of any of our FKK visits, and let other members vote for who's posting pics / vids of a real FKK room not taken from the internet? How about pics / vids of our little dicks in a real FFK girl's mouth or pussy? Be careful on what you ask for little Buddy LOL.

Now, you are again avoiding the real question. Why do you vote for types of politicians who keep FKKs close in every little opportunity, and still you are here on this FKK forum? Can you answer that without going on tangent?

I don't expect typical brainwashed people like you to respond to this simple question directly, so I admit that was stupidity on my part, and definletly a fail. Good news is that some of the people like you are waking up, sad news is that's not you and few others here. I do give you credit that you read some of my posts. Peace brother.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2654274]Zithromax is for bacterial infections, not viral infections. It works when its used for its intended purpose.[/QUOTE]Omnicef is also an antibacterial antibiotic.

But really, he's just silly for comparing 2 anti-bacterial antibiotics with different sensitivity for different organisms. Which is "better" depends on the organism.

But in the context of travel, his assertion makes even less sense as Zithromax covers a more broad spectrum, much better chance of being effective if one were to take antibiotics blindly without a health provider to work you up. Furthermore, when traveling, Zithromax taken via the oral form is taken over a shorter course, making it much more convenient, not to mention more potent in its oral form than the cephalosporin, Omnicef.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654405]Omnicef is also an antibacterial antibiotic.

But really, he's just silly for comparing 2 anti-bacterial antibiotics with different sensitivity for different organisms. Which is "better" depends on the organism.

But in the context of travel, his assertion makes even less sense as Zithromax covers a more broad spectrum, much better chance of being effective if one were to take antibiotics blindly without a health provider to work you up. Furthermore, when traveling, Zithromax taken via the oral form is taken over a shorter course, making it much more convenient, not to mention more potent in its oral form than the cephalosporin, Omnicef.[/QUOTE]Actually if one develops strep throat while traveling, the Omnicef is much better because 25% of strep throat is resistant to Zithromax.

CNN began talking about endemic, and this is good sign that mass media who is happiest during pandemic is beginning to talk about end of this, so this summer can be hopeful, but only worry is the restriction on entry, but WHO is saying to take down restriction on travelling as it is not working out on decreasing infections!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2654360]Now, you are again avoiding the real question. Why do you vote for types of politicians who keep FKKs close in every little opportunity, and still you are here on this FKK forum? Can you answer that without going on tangent?[/QUOTE]Real question Gino / Bitumen.

[URL]https://news.gallup.com/poll/389033/biden-year-one-approval-ratings-subpar-extremely-polarized.aspx[/URL]

Why do you take the low one year approval rating of Biden as a proof of unefficiency, considering the fact that your beloved Trump did even worse? According to your logic, he would be an even worse President than Biden. Yet you keep sucking his cock on every thread. You have other nicknames on this board with whom you praise Biden? You make your different nicknames fight against each other?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2654207]OK this is hilarious! I say why we all on this FKK forum should vote for types of politicians who would let FKKs stay open as opposed to the Nazis who keep forcing FKKs to close, [/QUOTE]Funny how Trump's cocksuckers keep taking the Nazis are scapegoats? Don't you know that the dad of your orange buffoon had links with the KKK and that all the militias supporting the fat clown (Oath Keepers, Qanon, and all the fucked up white supremacists around) have the same kind of ideas as the Nazis (they're kind of rednecks SA). What happened in the Capitol, does it remember you of events like the Munich Putsch?

[QUOTE]BTW, side note, Trump's popularity was low because of stupids like these people who didn't know what's good for themselves..[/QUOTE]Same thing for Biden, some people don't know what's good for themselves. My point is as shitty as yours Ginomen.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654326]Ultimate stupidity as usual.

[URL]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-39.asp[/URL]#death.

Where are your sources, some white supremacist Facebook page? Who happens to be a social reject living in mommy's basement?[/QUOTE]LOL, I've posted the sources you would ever need here for a long time. Check out some of the latest videos on YouTube by Chris Martenson also.

Now go back to you micro penis boyfriend.

Vaccines have been used to kill blacks in the past, so watch the door on your way out!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654326]Ultimate stupidity as usual.

[URL]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-39.asp[/URL]#death.

Where are your sources, some white supremacist Facebook page? Who happens to be a social reject living in mommy's basement?[/QUOTE]BigBuddy,

You're wasting your time using statistics, facts, and logic with dogmatic cult members. Just let them live in their fantasy world where vaccines cause more harm than good, the USA Election was "stolen" and Trump "won by a landslide", Obama faked the assassination of Bin Laden, California wildfires were caused by "Jewish space lasers," Tom Hanks and the rest of Hollywood are actually baby-eating "lizard people," and whatever other QAnon / Republican rubbish twaddle their fellow troglodytes are spewing online.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654326]Ultimate stupidity as usual.

[URL]https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-39.asp[/URL]#death.

Where are your sources, some white supremacist Facebook page? Who happens to be a social reject living in mommy's basement?[/QUOTE]Well we're used to him purposefully gaslighting with random shit he makes up. At best you'll get a random YouTube video with loose association to the topic from some random weirdo. He has no actual source to back up that claim.

But clearly, you can see an inverse relationship between countries with higher excess death and their vaccination rate. Looking at G7 countries to keep some reliability of data, the lower the vax rate, the higher the excess death.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=People+fully+vaccinated&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN[/URL]

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Excess+mortality+(%25)&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN[/URL]

His posts do provide one benefit. He's amongst the quackest of the quacks, so when I hear some of this bullshit in real life, I've already read a dumber version of the bullshit theory posted by him.

Deaths and hospitalizations keep dropping in Germany. Both have been declining since 15-December:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL]

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Hospital+admissions&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL]

I wonder why the decline in severe disease coincided with the increase rate of vaccine "poison" boosters being administered in Germany:

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-01-23..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Vaccine+booster+doses&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL]

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2654470]Actually if one develops strep throat while traveling, the Omnicef is much better because 25% of strep throat is resistant to Zithromax.[/QUOTE]You do realize that strep is only one of numerous microbes that cause a sore throat right? And when one is traveling with "travel antibiotics" to take without an actual clinician to assess you, I'm also guessing you're not traveling with a culture kit to determine if your sore throat is due to strep.

Point is, making the assertion that Omnicef is "better" than Zithromax is feeding more ignorance into the universe. Like saying that a plane is inherently "better" than a car for transporting people. No, the details matter, they matter a lot.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2654300]What do you know for real? [/QUOTE]I know enough that you make up most of what you post. You know, like you claiming in your mid fifties being fitter than an active triple world champion. I know that you trash WGs in the forums after you see that they go with other clients, because then they "lost their freshness". And I know that a lot of what is said about you that you now claim is not true, you actually said yourself in previous posts.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654518]LOL, I've posted the sources you would ever need here for a long time. Check out some of the latest videos on YouTube by Chris Martenson also.

Now go back to you micro penis boyfriend.

Vaccines have been used to kill blacks in the past, so watch the door on your way out![/QUOTE]Hah, how did I know this dude was referencing Martenson.

Referencing a Youtube video where the same dude continues his habit of isolating partial truths while selectively ignoring the greater pictures seems expected for a conspiracy theorist / realist escapist. In this case, making a Hoopla of 600+ All-Cause deaths in the 60 yo population in March and April 2021 without considering that New Zealand coincidently relaxed restrictions during the same time where people went into the world getting in car accidents, getting heart attacks, strokes, etc.

There are people in the world who are ignorant but beneath them are people who deliberately seek out bullshit to reinforce their need to feel enlightened. At least most ignorant people keep their mouths shut. They're better than the assholes who seek out bullshit and try to force their level of crap onto other humans.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654518]Vaccines have been used to kill blacks in the past, so watch the door on your way out![/QUOTE]Genuinely requesting a historical example where vaccines were used to kill black people. Educate me please.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654661]Hah, how did I know this dude was referencing Martenson.[/QUOTE]Perhaps because you have read all my previous posts, and maybe clicked on some links I have posted in the past.

Your brain is not very complicated.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654698]Genuinely requesting a historical example where vaccines were used to kill black people. Educate me please.[/QUOTE]Oh don't get me wrong, their hidden through fake news.

Where did you also miss the memo of me advocating for you to take the 5th shot before the summer? I have learnt a few tricks in my life you know.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2654473]CNN began talking about endemic, and this is good sign that mass media who is happiest during pandemic is beginning to talk about end of this, so this summer can be hopeful, but only worry is the restriction on entry, but WHO is saying to take down restriction on travelling as it is not working out on decreasing infections![/QUOTE]Yeah well, CNN has always been on top of things well in advance so far during this plandemic. LOL.

And by endemic they mean? LOL x2.

The universe would made certain our resident nurse would get to know about any fishy incidents related to vaccines. Because he is the most important guy everyone must answer to. Haha.

"The people who takes politicians seriously are the same people who think strippers likes them."

- Lisa Simpsons.

I have my own version of this famous quote:

"The people who takes Fauci or WHO seriously are the same people who think Romanian, Bulgarian and German FKK girls likes them."

"Freedom is not a reward for compliance. That's how jails work."

- Lisa Simpsons too.

Oh, low and behold:

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/covid-vaccines-pfizer-ceo-says-people-who-spread-misinformation-on-shots-are-criminals.html[/URL]

Here is a good one too:

"Nothing says 'saving granny' quite like sacking 60 000 people who were willing to care for her".

-Twitter comment.

Just been watching a lot of videos lately from the world economic forum. I was a bit tired towards the end of one last night, so I might have gotten it a bit wrong. But I think Klaus Schwab said something like this:

"You will own no immune system, and you'll be happy".

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654698]Genuinely requesting a historical example where vaccines were used to kill black people. Educate me please.[/QUOTE]This suggests the subject;.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrUkRs8wDo0[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654698]Genuinely requesting a historical example where vaccines were used to kill black people. Educate me please.[/QUOTE]OK, I'll help you with a strawberry here. Though I cannot give you more info. Gestapo would be at my door if I did. In real life!

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/11/pfizer-nigeria-meningitis-drug-compensation[/URL]

Oh, did I forget to mention it was Wikileaks who bosted that case in Kano? And soon after Julian Assange was wanted as a criminal in the USA? LOL ok well, I wish you all well!

Loke out!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2654473]CNN began talking about endemic, and this is good sign that mass media who is happiest during pandemic is beginning to talk about end of this, so this summer can be hopeful, but only worry is the restriction on entry, but WHO is saying to take down restriction on travelling as it is not working out on decreasing infections![/QUOTE]Only 2 weeks to flatten the curve.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2654751]This suggests the subject;.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrUkRs8wDo0[/URL][/QUOTE]Hmm How so.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654728]Oh don't get me wrong, their hidden through fake news.

Where did you also miss the memo of me advocating for you to take the 5th shot before the summer? I have learnt a few tricks in my life you know.[/QUOTE]So another unsupported claim. We're all so surprised.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654738]The universe would made certain our resident nurse would get to know about any fishy incidents related to vaccines. Because he is the most important guy everyone must answer to. Haha.[/QUOTE]Don't get mad, get better. Oh wait, you're too lazy.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654724]Perhaps because you have read all my previous posts, and maybe clicked on some links I have posted in the past.

Your brain is not very complicated.[/QUOTE]You're just a not famous version of other internet quacks, don't cum on yourself thinking you're special.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654748]I have my own version of this famous quote:

"The people who takes Fauci or WHO seriously are the same people who think Romanian, Bulgarian and German FKK girls likes them."[/QUOTE]Hypothetically speaking, would you say that a guy who feel in love with a hooker and permanently inks her name on himself be one of those guys? Self back clap.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654757]Only 2 weeks to flatten the curve.[/QUOTE]Which means what exactly?

CNN who is making billions agitating the current situation to begin to say endemic is quite a change though LOL! On the other hand, media still talk so bad and wrongly hyped information about our secret hobby LOL! Mongering will never see the light of the day, but we thrive so blight in the darkness fucking beautiful stunners LOL!

Brad pitt and Geroger clooney are the heart throb? We are the beautiful stunners dirtiest secret throb LOL! We are the secret fuckers LOL! Secret fucking society LOL!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654650]You do realize that strep is only one of numerous microbes that cause a sore throat right? And when one is traveling with "travel antibiotics" to take without an actual clinician to assess you, I'm also guessing you're not traveling with a culture kit to determine if your sore throat is due to strep.

Point is, making the assertion that Omnicef is "better" than Zithromax is feeding more ignorance into the universe. Like saying that a plane is inherently "better" than a car for transporting people. No, the details matter, they matter a lot.[/QUOTE]How the hell do we supposed to know that? Unless you are a doctor or some medical freaks LOL! All I know is this virus is becoming flu now, so everyone get infected for me and get group immune, so I can fly and fuck white stunner level beauties LOL! Fly and fuck is the way to go in 2022 LOL!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2654501]Real question Gino / Bitumen.

[URL]https://news.gallup.com/poll/389033/biden-year-one-approval-ratings-subpar-extremely-polarized.aspx[/URL]

Why do you take the low one year approval rating of Biden as a proof of unefficiency, considering the fact that your beloved Trump did even worse? According to your logic, he would be an even worse President than Biden. Yet you keep sucking his cock on every thread. You have other nicknames on this board with whom you praise Biden? You make your different nicknames fight against each other?[/QUOTE]I think if some politicians like Trump or the governors of Texas or Florida were running the countries like Germany and Austria, these FKKs wouldn't have closed. Like all strip clubs are normal open in Florida and Texas as pre-Covid. Do you think I'm wrong?

A good video of an Israeli doctor telling the Omicron symptoms of sore throat, productive phlem cough, mucus, headache, fatigue. The Omicron is clearly worse than the other Covids.

[URL]https://youtu.be/baEephIEB6g?t=197[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2654751]This suggests the subject;.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrUkRs8wDo0[/URL][/QUOTE]You will have to watch the full 90 minute documentary.

The guy who did it is an original doc maker. If you are of a particular political persuasion you might dismiss it. I think it is very plausible.

He's has done other docs. He once put a mole in the North Korean regime. Done 2 docs on North Korea he must be on there hit list. He's got balls.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654794]So another unsupported claim. We're all so surprised.[/QUOTE]You are allowed to read all my replies before writing more spam. Just saying.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2654751]This suggests the subject;.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrUkRs8wDo0[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah seen his documentaries before. I believe they were on tv here at one point. In USA he'd be put to jail.

The Cold Case documentary by Dag Hammarskiöld is on Vimeo available for at least Belgium and Netherlands. So any nerd with a VPN should have access to it there.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2654944]You will have to watch the full 90 minute documentary.

The guy who did it is an original doc maker. If you are of a particular political persuasion you might dismiss it. I think it is very plausible.

He's has done other docs. He once put a mole in the North Korean regime. Done 2 docs on North Korea he must be on there hit list. He's got balls.[/QUOTE]Not realistic to to ask someone to watch a 90 min documentary. What does it have to do with the claim "vaccines have been used to kill black people in the past."

[QUOTE=Gino02;2654845]I think if some politicians like Trump or the governors of Texas or Florida were running the countries like Germany and Austria, these FKKs wouldn't have closed. Like all strip clubs are normal open in Florida and Texas as pre-Covid. Do you think I'm wrong?[/QUOTE]I do. If you govern a densely populated area such as European municipalities the same way you govern sparsely populated areas of America like most of Texas and the Florida panhandle during an infectious disease crisis, all hell would have broken loose.

Yet Texas has had more staffing shortages than any other state. The national guard has been deployed there, staffing their hospitals since the entirety of the pandemic.

If the same policies were instituted in Germany, yes the situation would have led to a much worse covid scenario forcing the politician's hand in closing public spaces.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2654823]How the hell do we supposed to know that? Unless you are a doctor or some medical freaks LOL! All I know is this virus is becoming flu now, so everyone get infected for me and get group immune, so I can fly and fuck white stunner level beauties LOL! Fly and fuck is the way to go in 2022 LOL![/QUOTE]That's why you go see a clinician rather than assuming. Especially a poor choice when someone else purposefully spreads unconfirmed information.

Group / Herd immunity is not going to work out like you think it will. Omicron's too contagious. If you've managed to never been exposed naturally or through vaccination, even Omicron will probably suck for you. You'll live, but that vacation could very well be ruined.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2654897]A good video of an Israeli doctor telling the Omicron symptoms of sore throat, productive phlem cough, mucus, headache, fatigue. The Omicron is clearly worse than the other Covids.

[URL]https://youtu.be/baEephIEB6g?t=197[/URL][/QUOTE]Except for the part where he says "I haven't seen but a couple of patients with a pneumonia."

John Cambell puts out good videos. But good content is obviously not immune to intentionally troll interpretations.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2654845]I think if some politicians like Trump or the governors of Texas or Florida were running the countries like Germany and Austria, these FKKs wouldn't have closed. Like all strip clubs are normal open in Florida and Texas as pre-Covid. Do you think I'm wrong?[/QUOTE]You'd have to be a special kind of delusional to compare those clubs to FKK clubs.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655004]Not realistic to to ask someone to watch a 90 min documentary. What does it have to do with the claim "vaccines have been used to kill black people in the past."[/QUOTE]You're probably right. Found these;.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/south-african-intelligence-officers-spread-aids-black-communities[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7358707/Film-claims-group-plotted-infect-black-Africans-HIV.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/world/africa/hammarskjold-south-africa-aids.html[/URL]

I have not been following the thread so maybe this is out of context for Covid Vaccines?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654982]You are allowed to read all my replies before writing more spam. Just saying.[/QUOTE]A simple direct source backing up a provocative claim would have been much more conducive to productive conversation but it seems you're just not able to get the job done. Surprise surprise another fail.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2655043]You're probably right. Found these;.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/south-african-intelligence-officers-spread-aids-black-communities[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7358707/Film-claims-group-plotted-infect-black-Africans-HIV.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/world/africa/hammarskjold-south-africa-aids.html[/URL]

I have not been following the thread so maybe this is out of context for Covid Vaccines?[/QUOTE]No you're spot on. In short, the usual anti-vaxx suspect here claimed that vaccines in general were used to kill black people. But at least you produced something to confirm the usual, that his claims are hardly ever rooted in reality.

In short, a theory in which a rogue entity injected black people with HIV and telling them it was a vaccine is the opposite of "vaccines have been used to kill Black (people). " The story is literally, they did not get a vaccine, they injected them with a non-vaccine.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655026]Except for the part where he says "I haven't seen but a couple of patients with a pneumonia."

John Cambell puts out good videos. But good content is obviously not immune to intentionally troll interpretations.[/QUOTE]I second the motion on Doctor John Campbell in the UK. He is very well informed with a thick international Rolodex. Every time I watch his daily YouTube vlog it reminds me of the British adage "Keep calm on carry on". This guy has consistently been 4 to 5 weeks ahead of the MSM on near every aspect of the Rona.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2655087]I second the motion on Doctor John Campbell in the UK. He is very well informed with a thick international Rolodex. Every time I watch his daily YouTube vlog it reminds me of the British adage "Keep calm on carry on". This guy has consistently been 4 to 5 weeks ahead of the MSM on near every aspect of the Rona.[/QUOTE]Yeah his commentary and predictions have been remarkably accurate, promoted optimism when warranted, criticized when deserving, and rang the alarm bells when a storm was coming. But it's not that hard to fathom that when one takes an objective view and impartially dissects the data and incorporates it with clinical experience, your predictions will be correct more often than not. You know, practicing with a sound scientific approach. Who would have thought?

He even gave Ivermectin fair consideration and heavily considered it as a valid therapy until it came out that initial research was bogus.

The embarrassing part for others is that he's a PhD of nursing, not even a Nurse Practitioner or an MD. He's an educator with a clinical background out there making clinicians, politicians, and other conspiracists look rather foolish.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2654819]Hypothetically speaking, would you say that a guy who feel in love with a hooker and permanently inks her name on himself be one of those guys? Self back clap.[/QUOTE]Depends if there was humor involved or not.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655004]Not realistic to to ask someone to watch a 90 min documentary. What does it have to do with the claim "vaccines have been used to kill black people in the past."[/QUOTE]It's actually 120 minutes. But don't watch it. It's not for you.

You need the vaccine to be able to work and earn a living.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655046]A simple direct source backing up a provocative claim would have been much more conducive to productive conversation but it seems you're just not able to get the job done. Surprise surprise another fail.[/QUOTE]Yeah you are right, I didn't post any relevant link. Promise! LOL.

I was just saying BigB should be careful.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2654821]Which means what exactly?

CNN who is making billions agitating the current situation to begin to say endemic is quite a change though LOL! On the other hand, media still talk so bad and wrongly hyped information about our secret hobby LOL! Mongering will never see the light of the day, but we thrive so blight in the darkness fucking beautiful stunners LOL!

Brad pitt and Geroger clooney are the heart throb? We are the beautiful stunners dirtiest secret throb LOL! We are the secret fuckers LOL! Secret fucking society LOL![/QUOTE]At the start of the plandemic, we only needed 2 weeks to flatten the curve. That was supposed to be it. Feels like it's 5 years ago now.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2655031]You'd have to be a special kind of delusional to compare those clubs to FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]Well the guy says that he fucks the best girls of each clubs without condom just by cracking a joke and he also says that he fucks the girls for free when their workday is over, so you have to take everything that he says with a giant grain of salt.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2654988]The Cold Case documentary by Dag Hammarskild is on Vimeo available for at least Belgium and Netherlands. So any nerd with a VPN should have access to it there.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2655127]It's actually 120 minutes. But don't watch it. It's not for you.

You need the vaccine to be able to work and earn a living.[/QUOTE]As per usual, since we've come to that always inevitable point where we move on from any expectation of you providing any direct supporting evidence for your "vaccines used to kill black (people)" claim, yeah, let's talk about those irrelevant details.

A film about Hammarsjld not by Hammarsjld.

"Vaccine to earn a living". That's funny, I generate more revenue from my side hustles than you do from your slave job. What a cuck.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655126]Depends if there was humor involved or not.[/QUOTE]No humor, just a sad sad story about human desperation and bad life decisions.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655021]That's why you go see a clinician rather than assuming. Especially a poor choice when someone else purposefully spreads unconfirmed information.

Group / Herd immunity is not going to work out like you think it will. Omicron's too contagious. If you've managed to never been exposed naturally or through vaccination, even Omicron will probably suck for you. You'll live, but that vacation could very well be ruined.[/QUOTE]Well, the best treatment in this case is old school which is strengthen the immune system and also to stay in! Thankfully American figure out the system to entertain you at home called Netflix and amazon prime LOL!

Escorts are open here for me and I fucked stunner Eurasian last late summer, but since then again I am restricting myself from venturing out to do things that is not needed to protect myself, but if there is stunner level Eurasian, I will go again! This pandemic is almost over soon, it is just that now we are fighting with phobia of virus LOL! The end is this year!

[QUOTE=Ararat;2655031]You'd have to be a special kind of delusional to compare those clubs to FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]LOL you'd have to be a special kind of moron to miss the main point about what kind of leaders will let the FKK clubs open.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655016]I do. If you govern a densely populated area such as European municipalities the same way you govern sparsely populated areas of America like most of Texas and the Florida panhandle during an infectious disease crisis, all hell would have broken loose.

Yet Texas has had more staffing shortages than any other state. The national guard has been deployed there, staffing their hospitals since the entirety of the pandemic.

If the same policies were instituted in Germany, yes the situation would have led to a much worse covid scenario forcing the politician's hand in closing public spaces.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to Miami or Dallas? Forget about high population density in Miami / South Beach, even Dallas is more densely populated than Darmstadt or Friedrichsdorf LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655131]At the start of the plandemic, we only needed 2 weeks to flatten the curve. That was supposed to be it. Feels like it's 5 years ago now.[/QUOTE]But it is 2 years in reality LOL thankfully!

It is over this year though, it will slowly become like influenza level flu and it already is weaker than influenza!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2655165]Have you ever been to Miami or Dallas? Forget about high population density in Miami / South Beach, even Dallas is more densely populated than Darmstadt or Friedrichsdorf LOL.[/QUOTE]Funny you mention Miami. I know that ultra conservatives keep using Florida as their poster child of freedom but it got so out of hand in Miami that the city did shut down those nightclubs and strip clubs last March. The whole county even initiated a curfew.

[URL]https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/miami-dade-county-lifts-its-covid-curfew/2426031/[/URL]

As for density, obviously the major international gateway city of Miami is more dense than the suburbs of Darmstadt and Friedrichsdorf. To pick that ridiculous comparison, you would obviously be intentionally building a case out of bad faith.

The better metric would be to compare somewhat like cities where even relatively small Frankfurt is more dense than international gateway city of Miami.

Frankfurt metro: 8000 people per square mile.

Miami metro: 6000 per sq mile.

But better would be to compare Germany to Florida or Texas to fully factor how dense European suburbs and "rural" areas are compared to the American South and Southwest.

Germany: 600 per square mile.

Florida: 384 per square mile.

Texas: 114 per square mile.

Source: Quick Wikipedia numbers.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2655121]Nobody know when Omicron will slow and kill less. Reuters told 2 days ago: cases on highest peak = more than 100000 new cases daily and 847/100000 rate.[/QUOTE]Strange that you can say nobody knows when Omicron will kill less as it has yet to cause an increase in German deaths.

Ever since German Omicron cases started going up in late December, deaths have steadily continued to decline, already killing less and less as each week goes by. One month later, less covid in German hospitals and certainly less covid deaths. Hospitalizations and deaths are about 50-60% of what they were on Christmas when Omicron took hold in Germany.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-11..latest&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Cases%2C+hospital+admissions%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655021]That's why you go see a clinician rather than assuming. Especially a poor choice when someone else purposefully spreads unconfirmed information.

Group / Herd immunity is not going to work out like you think it will. Omicron's too contagious. If you've managed to never been exposed naturally or through vaccination, even Omicron will probably suck for you. You'll live, but that vacation could very well be ruined.[/QUOTE]If you go to a hospital you will catch omicron even if you don't have it to begin with. So its better to treat it by yourself.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655209]Strange that you can say nobody knows when Omicron will kill less as it has yet to cause an increase in German deaths.

Ever since German Omicron cases started going up in late December, deaths have steadily continued to decline, already killing less and less as each week goes by. One month later, less covid in German hospitals and certainly less covid deaths. Hospitalizations and deaths are about 50-60% of what they were on Christmas when Omicron took hold in Germany.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-11..latest&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Cases%2C+hospital+admissions%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL][/QUOTE]Read Reuters which is a reference in EU, much more reliable than CNN for EU. Cases are now at highest peak in Germany since start 2 years ago and still many deaths in Germany for German standard, much more than under flu or on roads even pushing free speed, even of course can t compete with lost war in US which should have around 60000 deaths under Omicron on January. Omicron seem also to be a real killer. Hessen clubs are closed.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655201]Funny you mention Miami. I know that ultra conservatives keep using Florida as their poster child of freedom but it got so out of hand in Miami that the city did shut down those nightclubs and strip clubs last March. The whole county even initiated a curfew.

[URL]https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/miami-dade-county-lifts-its-covid-curfew/2426031/[/URL]

As for density, obviously the major international gateway city of Miami is more dense than the suburbs of Darmstadt and Friedrichsdorf. To pick that ridiculous comparison, you would obviously be intentionally building a case out of bad faith.

The better metric would be to compare somewhat like cities where even relatively small Frankfurt is more dense than international gateway city of Miami.

Frankfurt metro: 8000 people per square mile.

Miami metro: 6000 per sq mile..[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the numbers. So, what's your final thought? If politicians like Florida or Texas governors were in charge of Germany, would they have kept the FKKs open now or not?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655157]As per usual, since we've come to that always inevitable point where we move on from any expectation of you providing any direct supporting evidence for your "vaccines used to kill black (people)" claim, yeah, let's talk about those irrelevant details.

A film about Hammarsjld not by Hammarsjld.

"Vaccine to earn a living". That's funny, I generate more revenue from my side hustles than you do from your slave job. What a cuck.[/QUOTE]I didn't post the Cold Case: Dag Hammarskiold link. He was a former UN secretary. Got the names mixed. Not that its important at all to the documentary. Even the Danish guy who narrates the film says Hammarskiold or any names at all in the documentary is important at all.

Chris posted that one. I want my name cleaned. LOL.

Also, I never even said 'ALL vaccines'. I mean, you're not black are you? LOL.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2655261]If you go to a hospital you will catch omicron even if you don't have it to begin with. So its better to treat it by yourself.[/QUOTE]Omnicron spreads more easily, so you should not have to look that hard for it. With previous variants, when one person got infected in my office, it usually only spread to one or maximum two other people (sometimes zero even). With Omnicron, the outbreak is double digits.

Practically all of the people who I know got earlier variants were people in their 20's. Or people who live with multiple people to a home. Not middle-aged people with limited social circles.

I know a few people who have been infected twice. One guy visits clubs, but traced it to contacts outside of the clubs. One WG in her early 20's lost complete sense of smell for six months. A year later, she can smell but remarked it is not all the way back. That is a blessing when working with clients who have body odor. On the other hand, she finds that other clients complain that she uses too much perfume.

If the people at my office are a representative sample, Omnicron should spread easily in EU, even in FKK clubs that require daily testing. Omnicron infects boostered people. And even when symptoms appear, the first test often comes back negative. Then a few days later, they get the positive. And in the interim, infected person is super-spreading.

Fact is, we need another vaccine round! At least. And then several more afterwards.

Because omicron both can and will mutate. And we need a leech on the peanut brains we see here on the forum because future tech is going to get wild, and we can't have any selfish diot running around ruining the planets ecosystems!

Mother Earth is a living being, and she is having fever, so she just coughed at Hunga Tonga, lowering the earth temperature by. 5 to. 9 degrees for the next 5-10 years. We don't want her to get shaken up further.

For example if we chop down the Congo rainforest, we are all screwed! There are clear environmental studies on this.

And if we keep using glyphosate on all our crops, most bugs will die out, and we are all screwed. And glyphosate is now found in the air and soil all over the world. Bugs are too important. Haven't you all seen MIB or Starship Troopers? We are all going to die unless we change tactics.

So we need to seduce the retards who don't want or care to work as a team. And since nothing else works, whadda you know, Greta Thunberg, mind control quackzines and the metaverse. Going to lock up the retards with the tiniest brains.

The nurse will soon dress up as a thai ladyboy selling BJ's in the virtual metaverse for the equivalent of 1. 5 dollar. Though the BIS will have a new currency up and running soon, so he won't get paid in dollars. His current saving will have 0 value at the flip. It will all be a total reset.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655352]I didn't post the Cold Case: Dag Hammarskiold link. He was a former UN secretary. Got the names mixed. Not that its important at all to the documentary. Even the Danish guy who narrates the film says Hammarskiold or any names at all in the documentary is important at all.

Chris posted that one. I want my name cleaned. LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't blame me I just wanted to make an entry for 'WTF are you talking about. '.

I thought a random documentary I watched in the last 10 years would qualify.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2655465]Don't blame me I just wanted to make an entry for 'WTF are you talking about. '.

I thought a random documentary I watched in the last 10 years would qualify.[/QUOTE]I know. But there are layers to my comment I think the microness of the nurse doesn't understand. And one needs to have read several previous comments here in the thread by more than just me in the past to understand. In combination with having seen the documentary and not have missed half my recent links and posts.

So I don't expect anyone to follow me here. Confusion by design.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2655465]Don't blame me I just wanted to make an entry for 'WTF are you talking about. '.

I thought a random documentary I watched in the last 10 years would qualify.[/QUOTE]But you might have to worry someone could be knocking on your door. Just saying. LOL.

Ace of Spades.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2655293]Read Reuters which is a reference in EU, much more reliable than CNN for EU. Cases are now at highest peak in Germany since start 2 years ago and still many deaths in Germany for German standard, much more than under flu or on roads even pushing free speed, even of course can t compete with lost war in US which should have around 60000 deaths under Omicron on January. Omicron seem also to be a real killer. Hessen clubs are closed.[/QUOTE]Also around 300000 new cases and 400 deaths yesterday in France. More than 200 in Germany and again more than 2000 in US. Still so many deaths under Omicron. A real killer since end of last year. And now start to tell about new BA. 2 spreading in India and Denmark neighbor with Germany. Never ending story despite vaccine and booster.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2653725]Not much, but quality is better than quantity.[/QUOTE]People are dying like flies in Berlin right now. Highest numbers of whole Germany. Omicron is making the noses run. Even S-Bahn and Buses are not driving regularly any more. Police is running out of cops, schools are closed for the parents who are smart enough to keep their children out of the infected classes.

But the most shocking thing, Germany is running out of PCR-Tests! It's close to civil war because every boosted person want a PCR-Test, just to stay out of the nearly collapsing hospitals and beauty farms.

Long covid everywhere, streets are full with lost hairs. Nazis are marching and Soros ANTIFA is doing nothing, the good left youth needs more help. It is still cold in the night, but not cold enough for wintertime! Total chaos.

You just need to turn on the TV.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2655293]Read Reuters which is a reference in EU, much more reliable than CNN for EU. Cases are now at highest peak in Germany since start 2 years ago and still many deaths in Germany for German standard, much more than under flu or on roads even pushing free speed, even of course can t compete with lost war in US which should have around 60000 deaths under Omicron on January. Omicron seem also to be a real killer. Hessen clubs are closed.[/QUOTE]Seems like you seem to keep referencing US because you can't defend your false claim that Omicron kills more and more in Germany since German deaths have been decreasing since even before Omicron.

When cases rise but deaths and hospitalizations decline, that's a signal that the disease in insignificant. Easy logic for reasonable people. Obviously not the case here.

Your Reuters says as much:

[URL]https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/germany/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2655465]Don't blame me I just wanted to make an entry for 'WTF are you talking about. '.

I thought a random documentary I watched in the last 10 years would qualify.[/QUOTE]No blame here.

Piston's just got caught not knowing who the film was about and thought that the producer was Hammarsjöld. He referenced such on 2 posts so not even a simple mistake. Truth is, prior to your post, he had no idea who Dag was. He got caught in bullshit, again.

Or we people who live in reality can just keep listening to the vetted data which suggests that natural immunity is the best immunity. Now that we have a less virulent strain, getting vaccinated does not afford any better protection from severe disease than natural exposure. Keep up Junior.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/[/URL]

Oh, and you're still a cuck to your job Mr. Slave.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655456]Fact is, we need another vaccine round! At least. And then several more afterwards.

Because omicron both can and will mutate. And we need a leech on the peanut brains we see here on the forum because future tech is going to get wild, and we can't have any selfish diot running around ruining the planets ecosystems![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655544]Or we people who live in reality can just keep listening to the vetted data which suggests that natural immunity is the best immunity. Now that we have a less virulent strain, getting vaccinated does not afford any better protection from severe disease than natural exposure. Keep up Junior.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/[/URL]

Oh, and you're still a cuck to your job Mr. Slave.[/QUOTE]How many quackzines do you have of covid now? LOL.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655542]No blame here.

Piston's just got caught not knowing who the film was about and thought that the producer was Hammarsjld. He referenced such on 2 posts so not even a simple mistake. Truth is, prior to your post, he had no idea who Dag was. He got caught in bullshit, again.[/QUOTE]Exactly, so I'm innocent.

But I am also right. As usual.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2655512]People are dying like flies in Berlin right now. Highest numbers of whole Germany. Omicron is making the noses run. Even S-Bahn and Buses are not driving regularly any more. Police is running out of cops, schools are closed for the parents who are smart enough to keep their children out of the infected classes.

But the most shocking thing, Germany is running out of PCR-Tests! It's close to civil war because every boosted person want a PCR-Test, just to stay out of the nearly collapsing hospitals and beauty farms.

Long covid everywhere, streets are full with lost hairs. Nazis are marching and Soros ANTIFA is doing nothing, the good left youth needs more help. It is still cold in the night, but not cold enough for wintertime! Total chaos.

You just need to turn on the TV.[/QUOTE]"Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!" - Ghostbusters 1984.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655541]Seems like you seem to keep referencing US because you can't defend your false claim that Omicron kills more and more in Germany since German deaths have been decreasing since even before Omicron.

When cases rise but deaths and hospitalizations decline, that's a signal that the disease in insignificant. Easy logic for reasonable people. Obviously not the case here.

Your Reuters says as much:

[URL]https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/germany/[/URL][/QUOTE]Tell insignificant when you are just unrespectful when so many deaths under Omicron in US, UK, Germany and even France, and when Germany and France are at new cases highest peak ever with many deaths. Much more deaths than before March 2020, so really not insignificant for us except for your Trump.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655542]No blame here.

Piston's just got caught not knowing who the film was about and thought that the producer was Hammarsjld. He referenced such on 2 posts so not even a simple mistake. Truth is, prior to your post, he had no idea who Dag was. He got caught in bullshit, again.[/QUOTE]I figured out what this forum is for now. Don't take it too seriously!

For the record I am all for vaccination and don't believe in conspiracy theories, except QAnon of course.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2655758]I figured out what this forum is for now. Don't take it too seriously!

For the record I am all for vaccination and don't believe in conspiracy theories, except QAnon of course.[/QUOTE]Thanks mom.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655584]Exactly, so I'm innocent.

But I am also right. As usual.[/QUOTE]And once again found to be a poser, as per usual.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655582]How many quackzines do you have of covid now? LOL.[/QUOTE]0 quackzines.

3 covid vaccines.

A half dozen holidays without the restrictions imposed on the unvaxxed, hah!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655544]Or we people who live in reality can just keep listening to the vetted data which suggests that natural immunity is the best immunity. Now that we have a less virulent strain, getting vaccinated does not afford any better protection from severe disease than natural exposure. Keep up Junior.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/[/URL]

Oh, and you're still a cuck to your job Mr. Slave.[/QUOTE]Studies and news changes day by day and goes in all direction depending on how you want to measure the data. What matters is to inoculate you with a 5th dosage by summer.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655544]Or we people who live in reality can just keep listening to the vetted data.[/QUOTE]Problem for you is that you don't live in reality. Some of us also live in reality. But this is a simulated reality. And soon we are about to make another simulation inside this simulation.

Wef already got the plans ready:

[URL]https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/01/building-inclusive-metaverse-must-start-now/[/URL]

You also got 0 expertise in anything. You just google anything and claim you have always known about it. You can't even read other peoples posts. Which made the last couple of pages especially hilarious.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2655319]Thanks for all the numbers. So, what's your final thought? If politicians like Florida or Texas governors were in charge of Germany, would they have kept the FKKs open now or not?[/QUOTE]In lieu of answering your question, I'm saying that if the governors of Texas / Florida were in charge of a German state like NRW or Hessen, the realities happening in those densely populated states would have forced their hands to close nightclubs. But then again, Germans are much more risk averse than Americans, so the nature of the people may have put natural limits on their covid situations.

But if you replace the German population and politicians with Texans and Floridians and their governors, then yeah, I believe 100% that nightlife in Germany would have been closed even if Governors Abbott or DeSantis were running the show. That's exactly what forced municipalities in such as Miami and Houston to impose restrictions in lieu of statewide restrictions.

Remember, Texas is mostly desert and Florida is half swamp land with cities located several hours apart. The proportion of people living in sparsely populated rural areas is greater than in Germany where cities are only an hour or two car ride away with suburbs connecting the entire space between cities. That's not the case when you have hundreds of miles of rural land between Houston and Austin or Jacksonville and Tallahassee.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2655681]Tell insignificant when you are just unrespectful when so many deaths under Omicron in US, UK, Germany and even France, and when Germany and France are at new cases highest peak ever with many deaths. Much more deaths than before March 2020, so really not insignificant for us except for your Trump.[/QUOTE]LOL, don't get mad that your predictions were bogus. Just be happy for all the people who are surviving this mild variant.

It's cute that you're now feigning anger for the covid casualties after insulting so many by calling them all old, weak, and fat. No idea what is this "unrespect" word but I meant no 'disrespect' to recent covid casualties but not much sympathy either as not many vaccinated / boosted are dying of Omicron. For most western people dying in this wave, it is their own fault. Vaccines which prevent severe disease have been around and given for free for over 1 year. It was their freedom to choose.

And your obsession with USA sadly continues. I get it, your pride for France is hurt because the US displaced your country as the beacon of democracy and the center of the free world.

[QUOTE]#10

France is basically that guy who was a complete LEGEND in high school and is still doing rather well to this day, but you still get the sense hes kind of coasting on past achievements. In this case high school was sometime around 1805.

[url]https://edition.thrillist.com/s/best-worst-countries-europe-16d2e9d00c3d4208[/url].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655788]Studies and news changes day by day and goes in all direction depending on how you want to measure the data. What matters is to inoculate you with a 5th dosage by summer.[/QUOTE]Why? I have natural immunity with a recent Omicron infection which was rendered ridiculously mild due to being previously boosted. No need for vaccines unless a more virulent strain pops up.

What matters is being a rational person that makes evidence-based decisions.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2655799]Problem for you is that you don't live in reality. Some of us also live in reality. But this is a simulated reality. And soon we are about to make another simulation inside this simulation.

Wef already got the plans ready:

[URL]https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/01/building-inclusive-metaverse-must-start-now/[/URL]

You also got 0 expertise in anything. You just google anything and claim you have always known about it. You can't even read other peoples posts. Which made the last couple of pages especially hilarious.[/QUOTE]You're right that I often stop reading your posts after the first eye roll. That usually happens by the second or third sentence.

Oh wait, is that why you always make 3 replies to each of my posts? It's like stuttering on the internet. One of many disabilities I'm sure. If so, while still embarrassing, that's a nifty strategy to deal with your disability.

Putting the tempering of Sirioja's misguided assertions aside, Omicron's effects on those with comorbidities will never be accurately quantified. True Omicron deaths are likely higher than the cases where there is an exclusive respiratory cause of death but lower than the actual number of deaths reported.

Proportionately to prior variants, not many are dying or even hospitalized for respiratory disease. But how many of the hospitalized with "incidental" covid findings might be suffering from an exacerbation of their chronic conditions caused by covid's non-respiratory, systemic effects will forever be unknown.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655869]LOL, don't get mad that your predictions were bogus. Just be happy for all the people who are surviving this mild variant.

It's cute that you're now feigning anger for the covid casualties after insulting so many by calling them all old, weak, and fat. No idea what is this "unrespect" word but I meant no 'disrespect' to recent covid casualties but not much sympathy either as not many vaccinated / boosted are dying of Omicron. For most western people dying in this wave, it is their own fault. Vaccines which prevent severe disease have been around and given for free for over 1 year. It was their freedom to choose.

And your obsession with USA sadly continues. I get it, your pride for France is hurt because the US displaced your country as the beacon of democracy and the center of the free world.[/QUOTE]You mistook when telling 1 year ago vaccine would stop virus, when highest ever new cases peak right now in Germany and France, with many hospitalizations and too many deaths for my fingers and much more than before March 2020 . Just real figures. More than 2000 known daily deaths in US since beginning of the year. More than 300 daily in UK. But you are right, Omicron is just sweet killer. Yes, old, fat and weak are the most at risk when I would have preferred not to vaccine, but had to buy my freedom, even with booster and in few months we will be told once again because only efficient for next day when you are sick from injection. Medical don't know anything about this virus, just following, when Omicron still kill many and not finished with so many new cases and vaccine short efficiency.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655895]Putting the tempering of Sirioja's misguided assertions aside, Omicron's effects on those with comorbidities will never be accurately quantified. True Omicron deaths are likely higher than the cases where there is an exclusive respiratory cause of death but lower than the actual number of deaths reported.

Proportionately to prior variants, not many are dying or even hospitalized for respiratory disease. But how many of the hospitalized with "incidental" covid findings might be suffering from an exacerbation of their chronic conditions caused by covid's non-respiratory, systemic effects will forever be unknown.[/QUOTE]In France, 96% new cases are Omicron, pretty sure same almost everywhere except in India and Denmark where now BA. 2 spreading.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655785]Thanks mom.[/QUOTE]Sorry if that came out wrong. I mean, I will not take this forum too seriously.

I noticed there's less ranting in the other forum's. I guess the clue is in the title. Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

I bet this forum is good therapy for some.

[QUOTE=Chris1791;2655920]I bet this forum is good therapy for some.[/QUOTE]Yes yes, it often reads similar to a QAnon Corner with some nursing home residents spouting gibberish. Sprinkle in a dash of racism and a tablespoon of conspiracy theories and here we are. Welcome to Thunderdome.

I like to think it lets me exercise my demons so I don't alienate normal people in real life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2655911]You mistook when telling 1 year ago vaccine would stop virus, when highest ever new cases peak right now in Germany and France, with many hospitalizations and too many deaths for my fingers and much more than before March 2020 . Just real figures. More than 2000 known daily deaths in US since beginning of the year. More than 300 daily in UK. But you are right, Omicron is just sweet killer. Yes, old, fat and weak are the most at risk when I would have preferred not to vaccine, but had to buy my freedom, even with booster and in few months we will be told once again because only efficient for next day when you are sick from injection. Medical don't know anything about this virus, just following, when Omicron still kill many and not finished with so many new cases and vaccine short efficiency.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure the vaccine did exactly what it was supposed to do for those who actually took it, protect the people and reduce transmission.

New year, new strain. What's so hard to understand about something so simple?

Do you even know what the BA. 2 variant is? How's it's different? How it's not?

No matter, look, another day of record breaking cases and another day with less hospitalizations and less deaths:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Cases%2C+hospital+admissions%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL]

Just go build another toilet or bidet.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2655913]In France, 96% new cases are Omicron, pretty sure same almost everywhere except in India and Denmark where now BA. 2 spreading.[/QUOTE]OMG I'm getting dumber talking to you about these things, like explaining Crypto to a grandmother, mind numbing.

Omicron taking over Delta is a good thing. BA. 2 is no different than BA. 1. Catch up.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655824]In lieu of answering your question..[/QUOTE]Of course you won't answer my simple question with simple Yes or No, because then you have to admit that people are wrong in voting these current type of politicians in charge of keeping FKKs closed. Remember, when you vote, you don't get to put a long winding blah blah blah explanation, you just get to vote Yes or No.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655824]Remember, Texas is mostly desert and Florida is half swamp land with cities located several hours apart. The proportion of people living in sparsely populated rural areas is greater than in Germany where cities are only an hour or two car ride away with suburbs connecting the entire space between cities. That's not the case when you have hundreds of miles of rural land between Houston and Austin or Jacksonville and Tallahassee.[/QUOTE]How far is City of Miami to City of Miami Beach to Ft. Lauderdale to City of Coral Gables to Boca Raton to West Palm Beach? You can always pick and choose areas, the net effect will be roughly the same. Whether you agree it or not, it's already proven multiple times that these lockdowns really don't make any difference. People with commodities are susceptible to die out of this or any other diseases; if we really want to save them, we should just lock them down, no point locking down the healthy people and destroying their natural immunity. And we should wake up and stop supporting these misguided politicians who keep pushing for the same failed lockdown rules worldwide, and more importantly for this forum, keeps our FKKs closed.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2655987]Of course you won't answer my simple question with simple Yes or No, because then you have to admit that people are wrong in voting these current type of politicians in charge of keeping FKKs closed. Remember, when you vote, you don't get to put a long winding blah blah blah explanation, you just get to vote Yes or No.[/QUOTE]Gave you an opportunity for nuance but if all you can handle is the short answer then, yeah they would have shut shit down.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2655987]How far is City of Miami to City of Miami Beach to Ft. Lauderdale to City of Coral Gables to Boca Raton to West Palm Beach? You can always pick and choose areas, the net effect will be roughly the same.[/QUOTE]Again trying to give you an opportunity at nuance but if wanting to keep it simple.

Germany 600 people per sq mile.

Florida 400 people per square mile.

Texas 100 per sq mile.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2655987]Whether you agree it or not, it's already proven multiple times that these lockdowns really don't make any difference. People with commodities are susceptible to die out of this or any other diseases; if we really want to save them, we should just lock them down, no point locking down the healthy people and destroying their natural immunity. And we should wake up and stop supporting these misguided politicians who keep pushing for the same failed lockdown rules worldwide, and more importantly for this forum, keeps our FKKs closed.[/QUOTE]Well if by make a difference, you mean prevent raw death numbers, the numbers clearly support a trend that the most restrictive western nations, saw the least death.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~ISR~AUS~NZL~SWE~FRA~ESP~ITA~CHE[/URL]

I'm not even in support of them, but restrictions and lock downs obviously make a measurable difference.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655973]Omicron taking over Delta is a good thing. BA. 2 is no different than BA. 1. Catch up.[/QUOTE]Another proof that you are not a doctor right here!

BA. 1 is not the same as BA. 2. Sure both are weak and labelled as omicron, but there are several different mutations. And the vaccines might not have the same effect. At least when it comes to inoculating you. Since you will need one for each!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655887]You're right that I often stop reading your posts after the first eye roll. That usually happens by the second or third sentence.

Oh wait, is that why you always make 3 replies to each of my posts? It's like stuttering on the internet. One of many disabilities I'm sure. If so, while still embarrassing, that's a nifty strategy to deal with your disability.[/QUOTE]Sales psychology. To make you more aware of being a retard. Everything some in 3. So now I need to make 1 more post.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655949]Yes yes, it often reads similar to a QAnon Corner with some nursing home residents spouting gibberish. Sprinkle in a dash of racism and a tablespoon of conspiracy theories and here we are. Welcome to Thunderdome.

I like to think it lets me exercise my demons so I don't alienate normal people in real life.[/QUOTE]I think they brought QAnon down. In order to bring you fear of confronting the establishment. And now you are self censored a puppet.

Soon we have you mind controlled, and I hear rumors of someone wanting to increase your dopamin levels every time you think about changing sex and parading around soi 12 in Pattaya. Mainly as a joke. I don't think it will earn you any money, but it will make you very horny, so I guess you can prepare for it. Sick black humor I agree. But it is what it is.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2655971]Pretty sure the vaccine did exactly what it was supposed to do for those who actually took it, protect the people and reduce transmission.

New year, new strain. What's so hard to understand about something so simple?

Do you even know what the BA. 2 variant is? How's it's different? How it's not?

No matter, look, another day of record breaking cases and another day with less hospitalizations and less deaths:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-08-19..latest&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Cases%2C+hospital+admissions%2C+ICU+patients%2C+and+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~DEU[/URL]

Just go build another toilet or bidet.[/QUOTE]More than 30000 hospitalizations from covid now in France, around 400 daily deaths, around same in UK, not so few when Omicron may not even be on highest peak yet, when around 4/500000 new daily cases. Our doctors keep on worrying when our politics need to reopen business before elections. Highest ever spreading whatever your vaccines are working since 1 year and still so many deaths. In my job, I m judged and paid from my results I provide. With such so low efficiency, I could not even eat and for sure could not pay FKK entry. Only medical and politics are allowed so many mistakes and low efficiency when I would be fired in my job. This is our difference: figures judgement versus your mistakes only following internet. I trust more our doctors still worrying about Omicron and I m fully sure German doctors worry in same way. Not crazy US when more than 60000 deaths on January but everything is fine for your medical level.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2654066]Stalin and Lenin messed up their nation to great extent in long run though Stalin did have successful industrial revolution in mid term, but in long run, look at russia now, they got nothing, but oil, gas, metal and military, first three are nature given and last one is not right way to use, but military is all they got, so they use it fully to try to control the global politic as we are seeing today with Ukraine which may benefit us mongers if Ukrainian can travel to german FKK as refugee visa upon attack of russia which will happen soon or later as long as Nato put pressure on russia LOL!

And ah, during perestroika years, whatta mongering scene it must have been LOL!! I was first in almaty in 1999 as my first visit to eastern europe and I tasted quite many russian top stunners, and they are among the best in bed and looks LOL!

Communism did not work, but they did play part improving mongering scene line up LOL![/QUOTE]With the current situation escalating perhaps you could come up with an equation and formula to work out how many Ukrainian women are going to end up in German FKK in the next 3 years.

You will need to look at the demographics of Ukraine and which FKK's they are most likely to end up in. How many Ukraine women have you met in FKK and where were they? New starters are most likely to follow their friends. You can even look at breaking it down into blond hair and dark hair. I hope I have given you some good pointers.

If you can enter the results onto the Salesforce Public Cloud that would be handy.

Keep up the good work!

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cruise-lines-require-booster-shot-152803533.html[/URL]

I was afraid that this would happen. It has started. Boosters required. Next - 4th shot, then 5th etc. Etc.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2656215][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cruise-lines-require-booster-shot-152803533.html[/URL]

I was afraid that this would happen. It has started. Boosters required. Next - 4th shot, then 5th etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]While Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson make a killing! I've been fully vaccinated then boostered. I'm not getting any more jabs anytime soon!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2656215][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cruise-lines-require-booster-shot-152803533.html[/URL]

I was afraid that this would happen. It has started. Boosters required. Next - 4th shot, then 5th etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]I am not a big fan of water and boats. Never been on a cruise. Just curious, any mongering experiences on a cruise, anybody?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2656089]Another proof that you are not a doctor right here!

BA. 1 is not the same as BA. 2. Sure both are weak and labelled as omicron, but there are several different mutations. And the vaccines might not have the same effect. At least when it comes to inoculating you. Since you will need one for each![/QUOTE]So quick to jump, LOL. Your perpetual obsession is noted.

Obviously they are different. But clinically, we don't care. The difference is in the SG marker which just affects genomic sequencing. Clinically, all the same with exception of increase transmission.

Ask 2 out of 3 clinicians and they wouldn't even know that much because it doesn't matter to us. Hospitals don't differentiate strains.

So quick to jump when you have no idea how the world actually works Junior.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2656111]More than 30000 hospitalizations from covid now in France, around 400 daily deaths, around same in UK, not so few when Omicron may not even be on highest peak yet, when around 4/500000 new daily cases. Our doctors keep on worrying when our politics need to reopen business before elections. Highest ever spreading whatever your vaccines are working since 1 year and still so many deaths. In my job, I m judged and paid from my results I provide. With such so low efficiency, I could not even eat and for sure could not pay FKK entry. Only medical and politics are allowed so many mistakes and low efficiency when I would be fired in my job. This is our difference: figures judgement versus your mistakes only following internet. I trust more our doctors still worrying about Omicron and I m fully sure German doctors worry in same way. Not crazy US when more than 60000 deaths on January but everything is fine for your medical level.[/QUOTE]Big difference between building toilets and managing the health of humans who don't listen in the first place.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2656093]I think they brought QAnon down. In order to bring you fear of confronting the establishment. And now you are self censored a puppet.

Soon we have you mind controlled, and I hear rumors of someone wanting to increase your dopamin levels every time you think about changing sex and parading around soi 12 in Pattaya. Mainly as a joke. I don't think it will earn you any money, but it will make you very horny, so I guess you can prepare for it. Sick black humor I agree. But it is what it is.[/QUOTE]The difference between our exchanges is that I don't have to create wild scenarios and accusations when it's we all know as fact that you still and forever will remain ugly, broke, and powerless. Still a slave-cuck working for a master.

Calling other people mind controlled when everything about you is dependent on a functioning society.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2656090]Sales psychology. To make you more aware of being a retard. Everything some in 3. So now I need to make 1 more post.[/QUOTE]Sounds more like an overly excited adolescent who is unable to gather his thoughts and put them in one succinct posting. Slave Cuck.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2656048]Gave you an opportunity for nuance but if all you can handle is the short answer then, yeah they would have shut shit down.

Again trying to give you an opportunity at nuance but if wanting to keep it simple.

Germany 600 people per sq mile.

Florida 400 people per square mile.

Texas 100 per sq mile.

Well if by make a difference, you mean prevent raw death numbers, the numbers clearly support a trend that the most restrictive western nations, saw the least death.[/QUOTE]Hilarious!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2656215][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cruise-lines-require-booster-shot-152803533.html[/URL]

I was afraid that this would happen. It has started. Boosters required. Next - 4th shot, then 5th etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]In France, on 15 February, if You don t have your booster if second dose was 4 months ago, or 1 month for my JJ, then no more pass, no more freedom. Only reason why I got booster making me sick. But when You read our US high level medical here, according to him Omicron is so sweet, so no need for booster, just give a sweet kiss to Omicron when You catch it and for all weak, die quietly, Omicron is fun to kill You. Around 60000 known deaths on January in US, maybe why Biden try to play strong with Putin, when US don t care much about misery in Ukraine, to make forget sanitary catastrophe, Omicron nearly killing daily as much as 11 September.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2656327]Calling other people mind controlled when everything about you is dependent on a functioning society.[/QUOTE]Everyone's job depends on a functioning society.

And you just made 3 posts in a row responding to mine. So clearly you are trying to learn from my vast knowledge base.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2656441]Everyone's job depends on a functioning society.

And you just made 3 posts in a row responding to mine. So clearly you are trying to learn from my vast knowledge base.[/QUOTE]No one said job. You're just a cuck who can't do shit for himself.

One reply for each post not 3 attempts for a single. Fuck, you're stupid.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2656424]Hilarious![/QUOTE]Backed in a corner with no sensible response. Got it.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2656438]In France, on 15 February, if You don t have your booster if second dose was 4 months ago, or 1 month for my JJ, then no more pass, no more freedom. Only reason why I got booster making me sick. But when You read our US high level medical here, according to him Omicron is so sweet, so no need for booster, just give a sweet kiss to Omicron when You catch it and for all weak, die quietly, Omicron is fun to kill You. Around 60000 known deaths on January in US, maybe why Biden try to play strong with Putin, when US don t care much about misery in Ukraine, to make forget sanitary catastrophe, Omicron nearly killing daily as much as 11 September.[/QUOTE]Oh lordy, so dramatic with so many tangents.

Nope, I said having natural exposure means there's no point in a booster toilet boy.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2656438]In France, on 15 February, if You don t have your booster if second dose was 4 months ago, or 1 month for my JJ, then no more pass, no more freedom. Only reason why I got booster making me sick. But when You read our US high level medical here, according to him Omicron is so sweet, so no need for booster, just give a sweet kiss to Omicron when You catch it and for all weak, die quietly, Omicron is fun to kill You. Around 60000 known deaths on January in US, maybe why Biden try to play strong with Putin, when US don t care much about misery in Ukraine, to make forget sanitary catastrophe, Omicron nearly killing daily as much as 11 September.[/QUOTE]You are right. I think Omicron is worse than regular Covid since the sore throat with Omicron makes people unable to do anything. I think I had the Omicron but could not get a test.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2656438]In France, on 15 February, if You don t have your booster if second dose was 4 months ago, or 1 month for my JJ, then no more pass, no more freedom. Only reason why I got booster making me sick. But when You read our US high level medical here, according to him Omicron is so sweet, so no need for booster, just give a sweet kiss to Omicron when You catch it and for all weak, die quietly, Omicron is fun to kill You. Around 60000 known deaths on January in US, maybe why Biden try to play strong with Putin, when US don t care much about misery in Ukraine, to make forget sanitary catastrophe, Omicron nearly killing daily as much as 11 September.[/QUOTE]In Norway too, from 1st February, your health pass is negative unless you have the original 2 (or 1 if you had JJ, though no one here have that unless they took it abroad) plus the booster.

So you need 3 shots to be considered vaccinated from Tuesday next week! And having had covid does not count any longer to get a positive health pass!

At least officially. Even if some of the same people one day claim that having had covid gives you equally or better resistance!

And so people will need to have had 3 dosages by now. Add to that that the omicron updated vacc has not yet arrived.

The new self tests. The only ones that are approved at the moment have the updated new microparticles in them. Used for brain takeover.

I suppose you are all taking test regularly?

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2656258]I am not a big fan of water and boats. Never been on a cruise. Just curious, any mongering experiences on a cruise, anybody?[/QUOTE]You can do a ton of fucking on a cruise..... if you are into geriatrics or near geriatrics.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2656589]You are right. I think Omicron is worse than regular Covid since the sore throat with Omicron makes people unable to do anything. I think I had the Omicron but could not get a test.[/QUOTE]So you think Omicron is worse but you don't know if you had it? Hmmm.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2656608]The new self tests. The only ones that are approved at the moment have the updated new microparticles in them. Used for brain takeover.

I suppose you are all taking test regularly?[/QUOTE]Internet stuttter.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2656559]Backed in a corner with no sensible response. Got it.[/QUOTE]LOL some fool doesn't even understand why his response was hilarious to the adults in the room.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2656258]I am not a big fan of water and boats. Never been on a cruise. Just curious, any mongering experiences on a cruise, anybody?[/QUOTE]The only P4P on cruise ships is on the lower decks with the crew. The ratios are like 8 guys per girl and there's usually at least on girl on the big ships who will earn extra $$ from the horny guys. If you're on a cruise ship as a passenger, you're best bet is to get some action wherever the ship docks for the day.

There are some cruises that are just for swingers. Those cruises are typically for couples only, but I did identify at least one that accepted some singles (expensive). A P4P cruise would be great for us mongers though wouldn't it?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2656734]There are some cruises that are just for swingers. Those cruises are typically for couples only, but I did identify at least one that accepted some singles (expensive). A P4P cruise would be great for us mongers though wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]They throw hobbyists overboard on cruises.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2656734]There are some cruises that are just for swingers. Those cruises are typically for couples only, but I did identify at least one that accepted some singles (expensive). A P4P cruise would be great for us mongers though wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]Sex on a cruise would be a great option except for a poor married guy like myself who constantly needs an umbrella to hide sex on a side from the spouse. It would be a torture for a wedlocked dude to be on a cruise and unable to utilize the services. Besides an official entrance to the brothel I would recommend a backdoor from inside a men's' restroom with an access to the facilities occupied by the working girls. That way one could do the deed in 15 minutes and be back imitating a happy married couple until the next urge.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2656744]They throw hobbyists overboard on cruises.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of an old joke.

Drunk wife leans over the guard rail on the upper deck of the cruise ship. A waiter runs by and says madam, please be careful, you may fall overboard! Irritated husband: please leave us alone, this is our vacation!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2656699]LOL some fool doesn't even understand why his response was hilarious to the adults in the room.[/QUOTE]Apparently I am that fool. But as the adult, feel free to educate.

Saturdays are good days to assess cases since agencies often stop reporting on the weekends.

Cases seem to have peaked in most developed nations. Of the G7 nations, Germany and Japan seem to be the last to establish clear peaks. Average time from surge to peak is between 3-4 weeks which is where Germany is at the moment. In the cases of UK and Canada, the time to get back down to a base level looks like 5-6 weeks. Worldwide numbers appear to have peaked also.

[B]G7 Nations cases peaked[/B]

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-11-08..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~DEU~GBR~FRA~ITA~JPN~CAN[/URL]

[B]World cases peaked.[/B]

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-11-05..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~OWID_WRL[/URL]

As always, peak deaths follow 2-3 weeks after peak cases which is what above nations should be experiencing now, with Japan and Germany to follow in the next month.

[B]G7 nations Deaths currently at their peaks.[/B]

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-08..latest&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN[/URL]

After vax campaigns and recent Omicron exposure, over 90% of the world should have some combination of immunity either through vax or natural immunity decreasing future case severity. I dare to say spring should see some quiet times and extend though the summer. Other variants may arise but variants have consistently shown to become more and more transmissible but less and less lethal.

[B]World deaths peaks decreasing with each wave.[/B]

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&uniformYAxis=0&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~OWID_WRL[/URL]

[B]Over 80% of 2021 US deaths were amongst the unvaccinated.[/B]

Unvaxxed only make up about 25% of the US population but 80% of Delta-Omicron deaths, 70% of Delta-Omicron cases, and 65% of Omicron cases.

From April 2021 to December 2021 94 K unvax deaths compared to 22 K vax deaths in the USA, 6. 8 million cases unvaxxed compared to 2. 8 million vaxxed.

In December when Omicron took hold, unvaxxed cases (748 per 100 K) made up 4. 9 x more cases than boostered cases (148 per 100 K) and 2. 8 x more cases than vax unboostered (254 per 100 K). Death numbers for December still pending.

[URL] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm#T2_down[/URL]

Dare to say whatever variants arise, covid winters will go forth and mimic flu winters. I'm banking on an annual vaccine schedule and pray that governments and the people will not accept mandates and just leave it up to the people to decide for themselves how they want to approach their health. But the efficacy of vaccines and boosters although waning is clear after examining the data from the entirety of 2021. That's especially true for the 50 year old and up population, something quite pertinent for the average reader on this forum.

Point is, the numbers are clearly out there and the health impact of covid variants is leveling off. Add the fact that people have to tools and / recent exposure to protect themselves, people can now make their own decisions regarding vax or whatever without being a threat to others who have properly made the right decisions to protect themselves in the setting of their own health / immunity profiles.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2656623]You can do a ton of fucking on a cruise..... if you are into geriatrics or near geriatrics.[/QUOTE]Ever been on a cruise where there was a large contingent of single gay dudes? The things these eyes have seen!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2656603]And having had covid does not count any longer to get a positive health pass!

At least officially. Even if some of the same people one day claim that having had covid gives you equally or better resistance![/QUOTE]A moment of agreement because natural immunity is supported by decades old immunology concepts but only recently validated by actual data as it pertains to covid. Will policy makers take heed? I think they will be forced to eventually accept that reality as more data backs this up.

Covid exposure should be recognized to be as good as vax if not even better, especially Omicron exposure as immunity acquired to Omicron appears to be backwards compatible to previous variants.

It is less likely, although possible, that future variants will be able to simultaneously escape Omicron immunity while also causing significantly more severe disease. As each wave passes, benefits of vaccination versus natural immunity will further gravitate toward natural immunity, at least for the robustly healthy.

Due to social-political climates, herd immunity through vaccination is obviously not realistically possible and considering the dwindling disease severity, future policies should promote, not mandate, vaccination, especially for for the elderly. The realities of Omicron and the future protection exposure provides should help alleviate the pressure for governments to continue their desire to mandate.

By now we all know that these injections doesn't prevent sickness and they certainly NOT prevent transmitting the disease, so then what's the fucking point with these so called vaxxpassports?

So since you transmit the disease you don't take the injektions to save others from getting it, you take the shot to protect yourself. If you feel the need to take a injektion with an emergency approved 'vaccine' with all time high adverse reactions feel free to take it. But don't try and force others to do the same. I for one trust my own immune system and don't feel the need to take a test to know if I'm sick or not.

How many billions of euros is all these pcr testing cost?! It's crazy really, they are not even reliable what so ever. What we have at the moment is a 'test-pandemic' that forces people to stay home from work & school even if they don't have any symptoms.

Fuck big pharma & the MSM media.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657059]A moment of agreement because natural immunity is supported by decades old immunology concepts but only recently validated by actual data as it pertains to covid. Will policy makers take heed? I think they will be forced to eventually accept that reality as more data backs this up.[/QUOTE]As usual you misread my posts. I always overestimate other people. That is my biggest fault in life.

My point was that natural immunity or not is irrelevant because the point of the quackzine has nothing to do with covid.

If that at this stage has not become apparent, then I guess perhaps the brain control might have started working sooner than I had expected. Or perhaps as I wrote above, I just keep overestimating people.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657092]By now we all know that these injections doesn't prevent sickness and they certainly NOT prevent transmitting the disease, so then what's the fucking point with these so called vaxxpassports?

So since you transmit the disease you don't take the injektions to save others from getting it, you take the shot to protect yourself. If you feel the need to take a injektion with an emergency approved 'vaccine' with all time high adverse reactions feel free to take it. But don't try and force others to do the same. I for one trust my own immune system and don't feel the need to take a test to know if I'm sick or not.

How many billions of euros is all these pcr testing cost?! It's crazy really, they are not even reliable what so ever. What we have at the moment is a 'test-pandemic' that forces people to stay home from work & school even if they don't have any symptoms.

Fuck big pharma & the MSM media.[/QUOTE]Blah blah blah. Here you go:

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/dec/25/us-fda-vaccine-advisory-group-covid-vaccines-flu[/URL]

Now the nurse and the idiots just need their 4th and 5th vaxx!

We never would have imagined how effective the vaccines would have become! LOL.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657092]By now we all know that these injections doesn't prevent sickness and they certainly NOT prevent transmitting the disease, so then what's the fucking point with these so called vaxxpassports?

So since you transmit the disease you don't take the injektions to save others from getting it, you take the shot to protect yourself. If you feel the need to take a injektion with an emergency approved 'vaccine' with all time high adverse reactions feel free to take it. But don't try and force others to do the same. I for one trust my own immune system and don't feel the need to take a test to know if I'm sick or not.

How many billions of euros is all these pcr testing cost?! It's crazy really, they are not even reliable what so ever. What we have at the moment is a 'test-pandemic' that forces people to stay home from work & school even if they don't have any symptoms.

Fuck big pharma & the MSM media.[/QUOTE]Preface by saying I agree on the declining usefulness on vaccine passports, but from a philosophical point of view. People have had the opportunity protect themselves if they choose. I'm ideologically oppose to the idea of having these freedom cards but only now 1, again people have had an opportunity to protect themselves and 2, the disease is less severe with Omicron.

That being said, death rates clearly show that vaccines have a very measurable amount on severe sickness. In US, 25% of unvaxxed make up 80% of deaths. Doesn't get more clear than that.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm[/URL]#T2_down.

Does not stop transmission but clearly reduced transmission, although less and less with each variant.

[URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597[/URL]

Antigen tests may not be so reliable but are good for detecting how contagious someone is. False negative on antigen still likely not doing harm as negative antigen correlates with low chance of transmitting. PCR generally have remain pretty reliable with the exception of the Omicron BA. 2 variant that seem to be escaping even the PCR due to an S-gene mutation. But that has no effect on ability to cause disease.

Most guys I know are overly confident in their health. Probably the reason why men are more likely to experience an unexpected diagnosis in an emergency setting. That reality usually start hitting them when they realize that they're in their 40's and 50's and are no longer 25.

It doesn't matter if the quackzinr was approved or authorized. It is the efficacy that matters. See?

[URL]https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/lack-fda-covid-vaccine-approval-doesnt-matter[/URL]

And although most nanoparticles caused a lot of detoxification through the lungs, a lot of people got chipped.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2657107]As usual you misread my posts. I always overestimate other people. That is my biggest fault in life.

My point was that natural immunity or not is irrelevant because the point of the quackzine has nothing to do with covid.

If that at this stage has not become apparent, then I guess perhaps the brain control might have started working sooner than I had expected. Or perhaps as I wrote above, I just keep overestimating people.[/QUOTE]No, I just chose to push conversation from unprovable fantasy-conspiracy in a direction that may actually be of interest to normal humans.

Don't know about the US but in Sweden, Denmark & many other countries you are statistically unvaccinated in the hospitals when you have taken 1 shot and until two or three weeks after the second shot. And when you take your booster shot you are again unvaccinated the first couple of weeks after the shot! Logical isn't it!? Many of those in the hospitals and deaths in Sweden has come in a few days after their injections, and then they are unvaccinated! So the statistics from the governments is not really what I would trust to be honest.

Why is thousands of scientists and doctors silenced all over the world?! The truth can be examined, the lie can not.

I choose to trust all these doctors and scientists that put their jobs and reputation on the line, rather than the governments own 'experts'.

You also need to take into consideration that the average age of those that have died with maybe not even of Covid in Sweden is 83 years old.

To even have the thought of vaccination of kids with a experimental vaccine is bizarre. You need to make a risk vs benefit analysis first. And as we hopefully all know young people have close to zero gain of a vaccine since they are not being hospitalised. We all agree that whatever injection status all people transmit the disease so vaxxpassports are utterly useless. They only serve one purpose, control. It's the agenda of global fascists, you own nothing and you will be happy as the World Economic Forum so nicely put it.

And a couple of weeks ago EMA (European Medicine Agency) mentioned in a study that your immune system could be damaged by the so called vaccine.

We are lucky that this Omicron variant is so contagious and with mild symptoms, the more people who gets it naturally the closer we get to natural immunity.

And again if you are 'vaccinated' why do you care if others are, you're safe right?!

If not, doesn't your medicine work if others don't take it?! Hahaha sorry but there is close to zero logic in this.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]Don't know about the US but in Sweden, Denmark & many other countries you are statistically unvaccinated in the hospitals when you have taken 1 shot and until two or three weeks after the second shot. And when you take your booster shot you are again unvaccinated the first couple of weeks after the shot! Logical isn't it!? Many of those in the hospitals and deaths in Sweden has come in a few days after their injections, and then they are unvaccinated! So the statistics from the governments is not really what I would trust to be honest.[/QUOTE]Can't speak for Sweden but in the USA, you are considered fully vaccinated on Day 1 after J&J and as soon as you get the 2nd mRNA dose. Even without a booster, you are considered fully vaccinated and these rounds of deaths in those without boosters will count towards the vaccinated deaths.

I trust the numbers here which show 25% unvaxxed making up 80% of deaths in 2021.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]Why is thousands of scientists and doctors silenced all over the world?! The truth can be examined, the lie can not. I choose to trust all these doctors and scientists that put their jobs and reputation on the line, rather than the governments own 'experts'.
[/QUOTE]I think the loud voices are being heard, there's just not a lot of them making the claims you seek. Thousands compared to hundreds of millions having the opposing view means that their peers are not buying what they are selling. There is something to be said about that. Likely something to do with sound supporting evidence.

Most people with science backgrounds will will not make resolute declarations unless they have a preponderance of evidence. You might get a most-likely prediction at best. That's just the nature of how science oriented people think. The people who speak with absolute confidence are the outliers or are just seizing their opportunity for fame. 1 million Youtube followers is much more lucrative than a research job, maybe even more lucrative than a physician's salary.

There are some who make good points, but those aren't the ones who go full-on, balls-to-the-wall, aluminum-foil-hats screaming that vaccines don't work when they clearly have a very real benefit. Rather, they are usually the ones who suggests certain nuance thoughts like considering alternative therapies, challenging child vaccinations, considering mental health effects of lock downs, opposing overly frequent vaccine boosters, etc etc etc.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]You also need to take into consideration that the average age of those that have died with maybe not even of Covid in Sweden is 83 years old.[/QUOTE]It's no secret that Scandinavian countries have a fairly healthy population. The advantages of Scandinavian cultural and social tendencies which naturally mitigate spread of infectious disease have also been discussed at length on this board.

With only 16.000 deaths in Sweden, I can see why you would be upset about all this hoopla for what seem to be an insignificant issue in your homeland, but that is not the case in all other western countries. If you are upset about your nation's policies, that seems fair. To be upset at other nations that have death rates which are double yours seems unreasonable.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]To even have the thought of vaccination of kids with a experimental vaccine is bizarre. You need to make a risk vs benefit analysis first. And as we hopefully all know young people have close to zero gain of a vaccine since they are not being hospitalised. We all agree that whatever injection status all people transmit the disease so vaxxpassports are utterly useless. They only serve one purpose, control. It's the agenda of global fascists, you own nothing and you will be happy as the World Economic Forum so nicely put it.[/QUOTE]Yeah yeah, I've heard those podcasts and youtube videos regarding the World Economic Forum and Great Resets too. Not my concern or interest. There are a few others on here who would love to discuss those things with you.

Regarding kids, I somewhat agree. But for young adults, there is quite a benefit to vaccination, let me discuss: I'm boosted and was out for less than 2 days with Omicron. Colleagues 10 years younger who were not yet boosted were out for over a week. Although we were not hospitalized, that's several thousand dollars of lost income I didn't have to endure because I got a recent shot. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of cases just like this and that's quite a lot of lost productivity for individuals and even society. Worker shortages and supply chain issues are already bad enough. Doubling and tripling that lost productivity would be disastrous. So yes, there is a benefit for the young to get vaccinated, to them and to society.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]And a couple of weeks ago EMA (European Medicine Agency) mentioned in a study that your immune system could be damaged by the so called vaccine.[/QUOTE]There is an element called Ts (suppressor) cells that can be overstimulated with repeated vaccinations. Overstimulation of Ts cells leads to suppression of an immune response for that specific antigen. That is why I am no supporter of frequent booster schedules such as Israel's. The fourth booster has already been shown to only be effective for roughly a month.

I however have no issues with an annual vaccination schedule if it's still needed.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]We are lucky that this Omicron variant is so contagious and with mild symptoms, the more people who gets it naturally the closer we get to natural immunity.[/QUOTE]10000% agree. And it won't be the last variant. The next one should be even more transmissible and hopefully even more mild.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]And again if you are 'vaccinated' why do you care if others are, you're safe right?!

If not, doesn't your medicine work if others don't take it?! Hahaha sorry but there is close to zero logic in this.
[/QUOTE]I actually don't care about others being vaccinated anymore considering the current variant's mild severity and an already fairly well immunized population. As you said, I'm protected and also not exactly at risk for severe disease. As stated, I am no supporter of mandates. I will however speak up when I see obvious bad information being circulated.

Even if you feel that the vaccines are being used to "control" people, that does not mean they are not effective. The data clearly says they make quite a big difference. No need to make untrue claims to validate a belief you can have without doing so.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2657160]Don't know about the US but in Sweden, Denmark & many other countries you are statistically unvaccinated in the hospitals when you have taken 1 shot and until two or three weeks after the second shot. And when you take your booster shot you are again unvaccinated the first couple of weeks after the shot! Logical isn't it!? Many of those in the hospitals and deaths in Sweden has come in a few days after their injections, and then they are unvaccinated! So the statistics from the governments is not really what I would trust to be honest.

Why is thousands of scientists and doctors silenced all over the world?! The truth can be examined, the lie can not.

I choose to trust all these doctors and scientists that put their jobs and reputation on the line, rather than the governments own 'experts'.

You also need to take into consideration that the average age of those that have died with maybe not even of Covid in Sweden is 83 years old.[/QUOTE]Medical know almost nothing about covid and they are allowed to make mistakes, and not only about covid, when I would not be paid and even lose my contracts if I mistook. They just follow Pfizer which lead our world under covid, making its business. I think vaccine saved millions lives, but medical and politics who are fucked by Pfizer, made a huge mistake about spreading when vaccine is inefficient to control spreading when Western EU is now under highest ever spreading under Omicron which already killed much too many on 2022, much more than flu. Medical is not exact science like mathematics and most of politics are just actors like Ronald Reagan on his horse. After ARN booster effects, I m pretty sure I got on 15 March 2020 when returning from Sharks and would have preferred not to vaccine, even visiting almost weekly brothels when not on holidays and open, producing my natural own little soldiers, when I didn't need until November and then only to buy my freedom and being sick after booster. And what will be for heart under intense violent effort, around 180 pulses for hours and sometimes under higher than 30 degrees, can even be more than 40 under sun, when was strong on last Summer.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2657115]It doesn't matter if the quackzinr was approved or authorized. It is the efficacy that matters. See?

[URL]https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/lack-fda-covid-vaccine-approval-doesnt-matter[/URL]

And although most nanoparticles caused a lot of detoxification through the lungs, a lot of people got chipped.[/QUOTE]Do you realize that once again you quote an article that doesn't support your claims at all?

[QUOTE] Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation circulating out there and some individuals are using people’s fear to turn them against the vaccines. And while trying to combat vaccine misinformation is like a game of whack-a-mole, with new claims popping up just as you debunk others, we can at least address some of the more widespread and enduring arguments used against the vaccine rollout.[/QUOTE]They're talking about goons like you here, but not in a flattering way.

Honestly, are you able to read and understand the main ideas of a text?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657051]Ever been on a cruise where there was a large contingent of single gay dudes? The things these eyes have seen![/QUOTE]A cruise where all the dudes except me are gay and all the dudettes are straight is a dream of mine.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657025]Saturdays are good days to assess cases since agencies often stop reporting on the weekends.

Cases seem to have peaked in most developed nations. Of the G7 nations, Germany and Japan seem to be the last to establish clear peaks. Average time from surge to peak is between 3-4 weeks which is where Germany is at the moment. In the cases of UK and Canada, the time to get back down to a base level looks like 5-6 weeks. Worldwide numbers appear to have peaked also..[/QUOTE]When Omicron is now more than 95% cases and high spreading despite vaccine and booster and killing much more than flu or crashes on roads in Western EU. Russia is closed under covid since nearly 2 years. If I don t lose too much my freedom for more money, when I want to sell after saving new electronics not sporty performing enough, but then I could buy for my 60,2008 S5 with manual gear box, not so under electronics quattro, more trustable and will improve the less than 20000 € beauty for much more power for V8 32 valves and with bioethanol to reach 300 in Germany. Less killer than Omicron even only in Germany and may also lengthen my already too big dick for small pussies.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2657321]Medical know almost nothing about covid and they are allowed to make mistakes, and not only about covid, when I would not be paid and even lose my contracts if I mistook.[/QUOTE]Less forgiveness because your skillset can be easily and quickly replaced. Sorry Wrinkly Balls, dumb and ugly have to work harder than smart and pretty.

Already around 160 Omicron in Beijing Olympics bubble when most of teams didn't even arrive yet, but Omicron in bubble despite robots everywhere like in stars war. When decided for politics before covid, but when You like ski, then so far below our Bellevarde, Lauberhorn, Bormio, Streif, Beaver creek, low quality with sait and water for snow, really not ecology as promised but big pollution for first killer on our planet, maybe even more than covid, producing so much pollution and even for electric cars batteries.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2657724]Already around 160 Omicron in Beijing Olympics bubble when most of teams didn't even arrive yet, but Omicron in bubble despite robots everywhere like in stars war. When decided for politics before covid, but when You like ski, then so far below our Bellevarde, Lauberhorn, Bormio, Streif, Beaver creek, low quality with sait and water for snow, really not ecology as promised but big pollution for first killer on our planet, maybe even more than covid, producing so much pollution and even for electric cars batteries.[/QUOTE]At least they had some snow there this last week. When it comes to artificial snow, the alps do have a fair share of that too. But I think the detrimental side effects of that are blown out of proportions. Especially considering the cloud seeding tech being used. And it seems the Chinese have been active with cloud seeding this time as well. Just like ahead of the 2008 Olympics.

When it comes to the robots, all of that is old news. But the Chinese consider these things an expo to show off their tech to the rest of the world. But all these robots are years old by now. Maybe one or two are new, but that's no big deal. The robot kelners for example must be at least 3 years old by now.

The one bad thing about the Beijing Olympics is that many potential medal candidates aren't even allowed to participate just because they got a weak cold 2 weeks ahead of the Olympics. That part is just ridiculous. Like Simen Hegstad Kruger for example who was the gold favourite in one event he now will miss out on (30 km skiathlon). And he doesn't even sneeze.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2657323]Do you realize that once again you quote an article that doesn't support your claims at all?

They're talking about goons like you here, but not in a flattering way.

Honestly, are you able to read and understand the main ideas of a text?[/QUOTE]You truly are a special kind of stupid aren't you?

I am massively pro vaxx! Just so we can inoculate as many retards as possible!

BigB: where have you been the last couple of pages?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657117]No, I just chose to push conversation from unprovable fantasy-conspiracy in a direction that may actually be of interest to normal humans.[/QUOTE]We all know what a narcissist you are. But I am the one from reality here. Don't forget that fact.

It's a mere coincidence but since home office I have realized I rarely work anymore. I'm available for junior colleagues to help them out but that's pretty much it. Somehow my performance review is even better than before and it was stellar in 2019.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657657]Less forgiveness because your skillset can be easily and quickly replaced. Sorry Wrinkly Balls, dumb and ugly have to work harder than smart and pretty.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2657809]At least they had some snow there this last week. When it comes to artificial snow, the alps do have a fair share of that too. But I think the detrimental side effects of that are blown out of proportions. Especially considering the cloud seeding tech being used. And it seems the Chinese have been active with cloud seeding this time as well. Just like ahead of the 2008 Olympics.

When it comes to the robots, all of that is old news. But the Chinese consider these things an expo to show off their tech to the rest of the world. But all these robots are years old by now. Maybe one or two are new, but that's no big deal. The robot kelners for example must be at least 3 years old by now.

The one bad thing about the Beijing Olympics is that many potential medal candidates aren't even allowed to participate just because they got a weak cold 2 weeks ahead of the Olympics. That part is just ridiculous. Like Simen Hegstad Kruger for example who was the gold favourite in one event he now will miss out on (30 km skiathlon). And he doesn't even sneeze.[/QUOTE]Chinese organized ski in a dry part where never raining, so can't snow. Really clever and high knowledge, bad quality like for everything and expensive with big pollution to create snow. Fortunately, cold is coming so blown water will make ice when race slopes need to be icy to resist to blades pressure. I doubt Beijing would get now Winter Olympics.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657657]Less forgiveness because your skillset can be easily and quickly replaced. Sorry Wrinkly Balls, dumb and ugly have to work harder than smart and pretty.[/QUOTE]You see a pretty face when you look at you in mirror? You should ask girls and also to compare our size. I'm fully sure much easier to find other on your level than one on mine, and may cost me my freedom I fought for since Summer 2014 until end of 2015 , to live like I wanted, organizing my life as I wanted, but when real lack of high efficient skillful experts able to make money, I may lose my freedom, bought. Covid changed economy and way to work. But you can't know about efficiency, results and money made.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2657867]Chinese organized ski in a dry part where never raining, so can't snow. Really clever and high knowledge, bad quality like for everything and expensive with big pollution to create snow. Fortunately, cold is coming so blown water will make ice when race slopes need to be icy to resist to blades pressure. I doubt Beijing would get now Winter Olympics.[/QUOTE]It was actually snowing there last week.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2657870]You see a pretty face when you look at you in mirror? You should ask girls and also to compare our size. M[/QUOTE]Cute, you're still a toilet builder with grey pubes and wrinkled, sagging balls.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2657866]It's a mere coincidence but since home office I have realized I rarely work anymore. I'm available for junior colleagues to help them out but that's pretty much it. Somehow my performance review is even better than before and it was stellar in 2019.[/QUOTE]Moral: Work smart to become a beloved resource. Work hard but dumb, you become a replaceable tool.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2657925]It was actually snowing there last week.[/QUOTE]Slopes were prepared only with sait and water for months, not with the faintest snow. Big pollution and really far from promised ecological, when China is one of highest killer.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657949]Cute, you're still a toilet builder with grey pubes and wrinkled, sagging balls.[/QUOTE]No, you are not cute face and I'm fully sure for size inside girls. When you make so many mistakes about covid, same than at Sharks, since I fought so much for my work freedom, I was paid to make what others are not able, but if I mistook like you, I would die from starvation not being paid and losing my contracts.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2657812]BigB: where have you been the last couple of pages?[/QUOTE]Well this thread is the home of loonies like you so honestly, I'm losing interest in it. It's like you've never been rooted in reality.

As we all know, quackzinations reduce the size of the boner due to blood clotting.

But now it seems as if pro vaxxers have copied a page out of our advanced rhetoric's bible, and entered our level of civilized empirical science based conversation:

[URL]https://youtu.be/3AfEhjBsKEA[/URL]

Some doctors who now believe natural immunity to omicron is better than quackzination, might find themselves double crossed by covid-induced micro penis syndrome if they are not able to reduce the time of having covid.

And if you have had covid, it probably already did shrink further.

So how do you escape this one Mr. Escape Artist?

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2656752]Sex on a cruise would be a great option except for a poor married guy like myself who constantly needs an umbrella to hide sex on a side from the spouse. It would be a torture for a wedlocked dude to be on a cruise and unable to utilize the services. Besides an official entrance to the brothel I would recommend a backdoor from inside a men's' restroom with an access to the facilities occupied by the working girls. That way one could do the deed in 15 minutes and be back imitating a happy married couple until the next urge.[/QUOTE]Well lucky for me I don't have those issues. Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead Captain! LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2657963]Moral: Work smart to become a beloved resource. Work hard but dumb, you become a replaceable tool.[/QUOTE]Work hard and smart and you get to the top.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2658129]Work hard and smart and you get to the top.[/QUOTE]What if one doesn't want to get to the top? You know what they say. The higher you go, the uglier it gets! The top isn't for everybody. I decided a long time ago to settle for the middle (except when it comes to my tutes), which definitely has its own pros and cons.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2658129]Work hard and smart and you get to the top.[/QUOTE]I don't think reaching the top is that important to him.

Rather, he wants to be a resource for all the boomers needing their yearly prostata examination.

How do you suppose he learnt how to make all the FKK girls cum? Surely not by way of the dick.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2658133]What if one doesn't want to get to the top? You know what they say. The higher you go, the uglier it gets! The top isn't for everybody. I decided a long time ago to settle for the middle (except when it comes to my tutes), which definitely has its own pros and cons.[/QUOTE]The Cane of Wisdom! Totally agree with that! Being at the top is also just a sex position to me!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2658193]Being at the top is also just a sex position to me![/QUOTE]Too funny bro!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2658133]What if one doesn't want to get to the top? You know what they say. The higher you go, the uglier it gets! The top isn't for everybody. I decided a long time ago to settle for the middle (except when it comes to my tutes), which definitely has its own pros and cons.[/QUOTE]For more than 20 years, I wanted to be the most performing and making a lot of money, race horses we were called in my studies, but when my life changed, I turned to only freedom and just enough money to do what I like. But covid changed the game making it much more difficult and companies hunting hard known experts, when I never claimed to be in FKK, and putting pressure, proposing gold to buy You, nearly blackmailing about contracts, to own You, to make You return home and losing your freedom. Good for money and safety but it will be so difficult for me to have less freedom. I will have to sleep less than already few hours, to be free for my dreams while others are sleeping, when I loved to work from FKK like on this Friday, or at night in car between 2 clubs or when driving. I wish I will be able to survive to less freedom, I will have to speed faster to get more time.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2658080]Well this thread is the home of loonies like you so honestly, I'm losing interest in it. It's like you've never been rooted in reality.[/QUOTE]Excuses, we all know you live in a dumpster.

And since you've been found out as a nobody, this is what you bring to the table. Typical immaturity.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658222]For more than 20 years, I wanted to be the most performing and making a lot of money, race horses we were called in my studies, but when my life changed, I turned to only freedom and just enough money to do what I like. But covid changed the game making it much more difficult and companies hunting hard known experts, when I never claimed to be in FKK, and putting pressure, proposing gold to buy You, nearly blackmailing about contracts, to own You, to make You return home and losing your freedom. Good for money and safety but it will be so difficult for me to have less freedom. I will have to sleep less than already few hours, to be free for my dreams while others are sleeping, when I loved to work from FKK like on this Friday, or at night in car between 2 clubs or when driving. I wish I will be able to survive to less freedom, I will have to speed faster to get more time.[/QUOTE]Of course, no complaint compare to those who don't have to eat. Would be shameful. But life learned me money is not happiness, when not much happiness when no freedom which is most valuable for me now, more than money. I saw so many rich but not clever enough to be able to create and taste happiness, when I saw some with not so big money, like a baker who is shining with his wife working with him, even not a model, but they have beautiful children and always laugh, when I saw many rich dead shadows or many needing drugs or pills.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2658080]Well this thread is the home of loonies like you so honestly, I'm losing interest in it. It's like you've never been rooted in reality.[/QUOTE]At least this is the Rants thread. Unfortunately the bullshit to useful information ratio is too high in many threads. Quantity of posts has no relation with how much useful information is posted.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2658133]What if one doesn't want to get to the top? You know what they say. The higher you go, the uglier it gets! The top isn't for everybody. I decided a long time ago to settle for the middle (except when it comes to my tutes), which definitely has its own pros and cons.[/QUOTE]Actually most of top guys are doing seriously bad job fucking top stunners as they are stereo type their lives! And they often pay high price for their mongering done wrong activity, at least millions, some billions, some even lose their lives LOL!

We are doing top mongering as human can do! We are top 1 % of the world for that, but hey, there is 0.1 % who are doing it better, but these people are really rare!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2658098]As we all know, quackzinations reduce the size of the boner due to blood clotting.

But now it seems as if pro vaxxers have copied a page out of our advanced rhetoric's bible, and entered our level of civilized empirical science based conversation:

[URL]https://youtu.be/3AfEhjBsKEA[/URL]

Some doctors who now believe natural immunity to omicron is better than quackzination, might find themselves double crossed by covid-induced micro penis syndrome if they are not able to reduce the time of having covid.

And if you have had covid, it probably already did shrink further.

So how do you escape this one Mr. Escape Artist?[/QUOTE]Hey bro, why you got to bring me in when you're talking to others? That obsession shit is creepy. Cut that queer shit out.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658061]I was paid to make what others are not able, but if I mistook like you, I would die from starvation not being paid and losing my contracts.[/QUOTE]Like I said, if you have a skill that is easily replaceable, your survival depends on others. So sorry for you. You must work harder than me and must please another person just to keep your income, or starve as you say. I am free and do what I want, no matter if another is happy. How are you so much older and have not learned this when you are so late in your life?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2658340]Hey bro, why you got to bring me in when you're talking to others? That obsession shit is creepy. Cut that queer shit out.[/QUOTE]I thought he was just talking to himself?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2658347]Like I said, if you have a skill that is easily replaceable, your survival depends on others. So sorry for you. You must work harder than me and must please another person just to keep your income, or starve as you say. I am free and do what I want, no matter if another is happy. How are you so much older and have not learned this when you are so late in your life?[/QUOTE]With your many profiles here, with your so pathetic story at Sharks when you were competing with a German and you needed to tell about, with your many mistake claiming about covid which still kill many in your country and elsewhere, repeating only internet, you are just a follower with a not pretty face when you tell about others. When I tell about my size, I'm 100% fully sure when I know guys attending FKK are smaller than average, when I just see under shower on my many visits. When I didn't even recognize you, when you did remember me, just for difference, when your level you show never impressed me, nor your drawings from internet of course, when I try to think by myself and if vaccine saved many lives, but was not complicated to understand would not stop spreading and figures just give highest spreading and many deaths under Omicron, not far from 10000 daily killed by your little sweet kitten. I don t hear any wise medical telling Omicron is not dangerous, only crazy do. You should meet our crazy Raoult in France. He was pushed out after all his crazy bullshits. And now US thinking to vaccine 6 months old babies, why? Why not letting everybody infected by so sweet Omicron? Should be the most efficient to fuck covid and variants, but how many deaths? Millions, when our Macron decided now to kill people to prepare his election, when our medical shout still dangerous.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2658133]What if one doesn't want to get to the top? You know what they say. The higher you go, the uglier it gets! The top isn't for everybody. I decided a long time ago to settle for the middle (except when it comes to my tutes), which definitely has its own pros and cons.[/QUOTE]It depends on what you're the top of. Hugh Hefner was top honcho in the sex mags business and no one banged more young hot stunners than Hugh.

In Switzerland they announced no more quarantine requirements and no more home office requirement. Federal government proposes 2 options to the cantons to be decided which way to go by 16 Feb. Option 1: no more certificate required, no masks required including in shops and public transit. Option 2: no more certificate required, switch from 2 G+ to 2 G. This all because hospitalization numbers kept dropping since mid December and the Omicron wave did not put additional pressure on the hospitals.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658434]With your many profiles here, with your so pathetic story at Sharks when you were competing with a German and you needed to tell about, with your many mistake claiming about covid which still kill many in your country and elsewhere, repeating only internet, you are just a follower with a not pretty face when you tell about others. When I tell about my size, I'm 100% fully sure when I know guys attending FKK are smaller than average, when I just see under shower on my many visits. When I didn't even recognize you, when you did remember me, just for difference, when your level you show never impressed me, nor your drawings from internet of course, when I try to think by myself and if vaccine saved many lives, but was not complicated to understand would not stop spreading and figures just give highest spreading and many deaths under Omicron, not far from 10000 daily killed by your little sweet kitten. I don t hear any wise medical telling Omicron is not dangerous, only crazy do. You should meet our crazy Raoult in France. He was pushed out after all his crazy bullshits. And now US thinking to vaccine 6 months old babies, why? Why not letting everybody infected by so sweet Omicron? Should be the most efficient to fuck covid and variants, but how many deaths? Millions, when our Macron decided now to kill people to prepare his election, when our medical shout still dangerous.[/QUOTE]So wordy. So angry. But same writings every time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2658498]It depends on what you're the top of. Hugh Hefner was top honcho in the sex mags business and no one banged more young hot stunners than Hugh.[/QUOTE]You have a point. But come on man! You know what we mean. Stop splicing hairs! Not too many ordinary blokes get to be Hugh Hefner or James Bond! Does [B]anybody[/B] get to be James Bond?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2658401]I thought he was just talking to himself?[/QUOTE]I was writing to everyone with a hunger for knowledge.

Siri, WTH is this? I go to the clubs to fuck the girls, not staring at other men. There's a word for those guys.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658434] When I tell about my size, I'm 100% fully sure when I know guys attending FKK are smaller than average, when I just see under shower on my many visits.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2658500]In Switzerland they announced no more quarantine requirements and no more home office requirement. Federal government proposes 2 options to the cantons to be decided which way to go by 16 Feb. Option 1: no more certificate required, no masks required including in shops and public transit. Option 2: no more certificate required, switch from 2 G+ to 2 G. This all because hospitalization numbers kept dropping since mid December and the Omicron wave did not put additional pressure on the hospitals.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately in France we have too many new cases, hospitalizations and deaths under Omicron. 11 September every day in US from kitten Laden Omicron. But problem is casting is not attractive at Globe, even only 2 girls for 5 clubs visited, but NRW is more interesting for me, and waiting for Sharks reopening, but I m able to wait.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2658544]So wordy. So angry. But same writings every time.[/QUOTE]When we met twice and I didn't recognize you. Just give you level of your image and you proved here from your many profiles and mistakes, your level for medical and as playing ghost. I would say you are on the average of guys in brothels. Perfect example for why I don't like to meet guys in brothels, I let you with your brothels friends or here, just laughing about battle here with your ex friend. I only worry about losing my freedom for business and money, I even proposed them to find another one, but they didn't let me choice with no other on your level when business is complicated under covid. When I m pretty sure I didn't need vaccine when no problem until November when I got so many girls, I only accepted to keep my freedom, but covid stole my freedom. I wish I will be able to adapt like in FKK land, new different life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658613]When we met twice and I didn't recognize you. Just give you level of your image and you proved here from your many profiles and mistakes, your level for medical and as playing ghost. I would say you are on the average of guys in brothels. Perfect example for why I don't like to meet guys in brothels, I let you with your brothels friends or here, just laughing about battle here with your ex friend. I only worry about losing my freedom for business and money, I even proposed them to find another one, but they didn't let me choice with no other on your level when business is complicated under covid. When I m pretty sure I didn't need vaccine when no problem until November when I got so many girls, I only accepted to keep my freedom, but covid stole my freedom. I wish I will be able to adapt like in FKK land, new different life.[/QUOTE]Almost literally the exact same ramblings. So old, no poise.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2658585]Siri, WTH is this? I go to the clubs to fuck the girls, not staring at other men. There's a word for those guys.[/QUOTE]Don't you take shower? I love long warm shower. Relaxing mind and body. Sometimes, while my shower, I see guys showering and returning before I finished. Rabbit room? Because I usually don't shower close to sauna. Some showers with girls at Globe were funny, I remember Megan watching me with round eyes washing my tool, or with Joana. De answering Balkanians. Also with Selina after 3 am when Globe was closed. And I don't need to face the wall to hide. I may spend around 1 hour under shower on a day in FKK. I don't like sauna, too warm, but I love very warm jacuzzi. I remember when playing with bubbles in outside swimming pool at Oase on Alexandra clit on very sunny warm April 2019, before room for 100/60. So hot Bosnian / Croatian.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2658690]Almost literally the exact same ramblings. So old, no poise.[/QUOTE]Look at your image, face and 80 cm below in mirror, Takedown, Mursenary, Escape Artist and maybe others. Girls often tell me: You are beautiful, when seeing me looking at me in mirror in FKK. Matter of self image in our mind, built from childhood and our women in life. But I don't like when other girls than mine want to touch my face or hair or dick in lounge and I didn't like my best at LR wanted to put my hair in Romanian style, I preferred to show her white sticky liquid on my fingers but she didn't want to taste, so I put in my mouth and kissed her, french style.

The Chinese suck so much at winter sports that they now are putting every non Chinese athlete into quarantine for a weak cold that doesn't even cause sneezing. Over 100 already and counting, and we still haven't reached the opening ceremony. What a joke! Biggest favourite in all the Nordic combined competitions and clear world cup leader is also out of the games now. And so is the female ski jumping world cup leader.

What a joke the Chinese are. LOL! If this continue at this pace, China will take 100 gold medals since they will just fake their own tests. I'm not sure there are 100 gold medals to be given out, but it doesn't matter. Say ice hockey is 22. And then they will definitely get there. LOL. China winning in ice hockey. I bet it will happen!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658761]Look at your image, face and 80 cm below in mirror, Takedown, Mursenary, Escape Artist and maybe others. Girls often tell me: You are beautiful, when seeing me looking at me in mirror in FKK. Matter of self image in our mind, built from childhood and our women in life. But I don't like when other girls than mine want to touch my face or hair or dick in lounge and I didn't like my best at LR wanted to put my hair in Romanian style, I preferred to show her white sticky liquid on my fingers but she didn't want to taste, so I put in my mouth and kissed her, french style.[/QUOTE]80 cm? So you think my thigh is not beautiful? You forget you are Leprechaun sized.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2658870]The Chinese suck so much at winter sports that they now are putting every non Chinese athlete into quarantine for a weak cold that doesn't even cause sneezing. Over 100 already and counting, and we still haven't reached the opening ceremony. What a joke! Biggest favourite in all the Nordic combined competitions and clear world cup leader is also out of the games now. And so is the female ski jumping world cup leader.

What a joke the Chinese are. LOL! If this continue at this pace, China will take 100 gold medals since they will just fake their own tests. I'm not sure there are 100 gold medals to be given out, but it doesn't matter. Say ice hockey is 22. And then they will definitely get there. LOL. China winning in ice hockey. I bet it will happen![/QUOTE]Did you see slopes in the grass, so bad image for ski, so big pollution with so much water used. On this morning, Chinese ambassador in Paris answered when he was asked: he doesn't care about Shuai Peng. If I didn't love so much ski and our Pepette in bumps, I would not watch.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2658885]80 cm? So you think my thigh is not beautiful? You forget you are Leprechaun sized.[/QUOTE]I didn't remember your face but I remember you have 2 legs, so I meant between them, to look at in mirror.

Everybody knows that all women when they describe what kind of man they like they say he has to be short, skinny and with zero upper body strength.

As well, everybody knows that prostitutes don't lie when they tell the client how good looking he is and what a big dick the client has.

Any expert here knows when (date / month / year) the FKKs will reopen in Hesse? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2659009]Everybody knows that all women when they describe what kind of man they like they say he has to be short, skinny and with zero upper body strength.

As well, everybody knows that prostitutes don't lie when they tell the client how good looking he is and what a big dick the client has.[/QUOTE]But you experience when fucking, unfortunately, not with one but almost all girls, all over FKK land when you don't know else than Globe, when girls say: this guy go everywhere. Even with 180 supermodel. But you can't experience nor our US medical of course. We don't experience same in brothels and even when going with same girls who don t behave the same with all of us. In real life, I remember my women didn't tell me too big but feeling inside their belly.

Bavaria brother, beautiful land of ski with real snow, for sure Chinese Olympics can t compete with Streif, Austria will, after lockdown on end of last year, now make vaccine compulsory soon or fine, and booster every 6 months. Why? When US claim Omicron is our sweet friend, but making us more sad life than under previous mutants. When Austria is so close to Germany, with Wellcum, Golden Time.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2658999]I didn't remember your face but I remember you have 2 legs, so I meant between them, to look at in mirror.[/QUOTE]Hey dummy, I meant only you are so short that 80 cm higher than your dick.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2659009]Everybody knows that all women when they describe what kind of man they like they say he has to be short, skinny and with zero upper body strength.

As well, everybody knows that prostitutes don't lie when they tell the client how good looking he is and what a big dick the client has.[/QUOTE]And how good in bed he is, and how many orgasms he gave them, and how special he is.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2659015]Any expert here knows when (date / month / year) the FKKs will reopen in Hesse? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Short answer is NO, no one knows.

Hessen law is to close FKK when incidence rate is 350 cases / 100,000.

Darmstadt incidence rate (February 3 = 1837).

This is stupid law, but is due to expire in February 10, so Sharks will open when Hessen end this stupid law, if they extend it, then it might take long time until incidence rate fell below 350.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2659376]Short answer is NO, no one knows.

Hessen law is to close FKK when incidence rate is 350 cases / 100,000.

Darmstadt incidence rate (February 3 = 1837).

This is stupid law, but is due to expire in February 10, so Sharks will open when Hessen end this stupid law, if they extend it, then it might take long time until incidence rate fell below 350.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Who passed these "stupid law"?

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2659376]Short answer is NO, no one knows.

Hessen law is to close FKK when incidence rate is 350 cases / 100,000.

Darmstadt incidence rate (February 3 = 1837).

This is stupid law, but is due to expire in February 10, so Sharks will open when Hessen end this stupid law, if they extend it, then it might take long time until incidence rate fell below 350.[/QUOTE]You tell many Omicron cases in Germany? What a surprise. And also around 200 daily deaths. Sharks reopened on mid June on last year.

UK dropped all covid restrictions.

Now Denmark drops all covid restrictions.

Who's next? My bet's on Netherlands then Belgium.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2659490]UK dropped all covid restrictions.

Now Denmark drops all covid restrictions.

Who's next? My bet's on Netherlands then Belgium.[/QUOTE]No more lockdown in NL. Compulsory vaccine in Austria.

FKK's in Hessen are allowed to open from Monday.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2659601]No more lockdown in NL. Compulsory vaccine in Austria.[/QUOTE]Still mandatory 2200 business closure in when Denmark stop all covid restrictions.

((Corona rules: This will change from Monday.

The state government has decided to make changes to the Corona Virus Protection Ordinance. These come into force on February 7th and remain valid until March 6th, 2022. The following rules apply from Monday:

The hotspot regulation will be lifted: it previously applied in cities and districts with an incidence of over 350, I. E. Currently in all of Hesse. From Monday it will be gone.

Prostitution establishments should reopen with the 2 G Plus rule, contact data collection and a distance and hygiene concept.)).

Thats very good news, Sharks will reopen soon, I have 3 doses, does that mean no test at the door for me?

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2659719]((Corona rules: This will change from Monday.

The state government has decided to make changes to the Corona Virus Protection Ordinance. These come into force on February 7th and remain valid until March 6th, 2022. The following rules apply from Monday:

The hotspot regulation will be lifted: it previously applied in cities and districts with an incidence of over 350, I. E. Currently in all of Hesse. From Monday it will be gone.

Prostitution establishments should reopen with the 2 G Plus rule, contact data collection and a distance and hygiene concept.)).

Thats very good news, Sharks will reopen soon, I have 3 doses, does that mean no test at the door for me?[/QUOTE]So, just have to wish Hessen will remain open after 6 March, to let A team come back, when lower casting around Christmas / New year before closed by Polizei. I will be happy to see again my elegant for 100/60, my best on 2021.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2659644]Still mandatory 2200 business closure in when Denmark stop all covid restrictions.[/QUOTE]When Denmark have very high rate cases, they will see, when UK still have many deaths and crazy Johnson.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2659644]Still mandatory 2200 business closure in when Denmark stop all covid restrictions.[/QUOTE]Because covid is only spread after 10 pm.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2659800]Because covid is only spread after 10 pm.[/QUOTE]You can choose to get stuck on these things in misery or you enjoy the fact lockdowns are tumbling down, likely to be at an increasing pace.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2659800]Because covid is only spread after 10 pm.[/QUOTE]Since you want to play the dummy, most of the businesses open after 10 pm are bars and clubs and in these places, people tend to forget face masks and social distancing.

DW is reporting that Germany's expert vaccine commission, the Standing Committee on Vaccination (StiKo), on Thursday issued a recommendation for approval of the Novavax. DW also said that the panel still believes the booster shot should be an mRNA vaxx. Well that certainly muddies the waters. Now I'm wondering if a Novavax boost in UK or US will be accepted in Hesse for those who got the AZ or JJ.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2660055]DW is reporting that Germany's expert vaccine commission, the Standing Committee on Vaccination (StiKo), on Thursday issued a recommendation for approval of the Novavax. DW also said that the panel still believes the booster shot should be an mRNA vaxx. Well that certainly muddies the waters. Now I'm wondering if a Novavax boost in UK or US will be accepted in Hesse for those who got the AZ or JJ.[/QUOTE]JJ + ARN is OK.

Germany is really not logical, opening risky playfield brothels, not sure for Bavaria, but when You know how Bundesliga is important in Germany, I think much more important than FKK, but stadiums remain quite empty with limited crowd, making big issue for clubs economy, when they are real companies with much more German employees than brothels employing mostly foreigners.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2659490]UK dropped all covid restrictions.

Now Denmark drops all covid restrictions.

Who's next? My bet's on Netherlands then Belgium.[/QUOTE]Switzerland is well on its way too. Sweden will drop all of their 'restrictions' from Wednesday.

No surprises if Germany and Austria are the last in Europe. We'll see.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2660055]DW is reporting that Germany's expert vaccine commission, the Standing Committee on Vaccination (StiKo), on Thursday issued a recommendation for approval of the Novavax. DW also said that the panel still believes the booster shot should be an mRNA vaxx. Well that certainly muddies the waters. Now I'm wondering if a Novavax boost in UK or US will be accepted in Hesse for those who got the AZ or JJ.[/QUOTE]They don't care which vaccine, they just count to 3 and make sure the last shot was 14 days ago.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2660068]JJ + ARN is OK.[/QUOTE]The reason is that the Johnson and Novavax vaccine use a vector virus to insert the fake Covid genetic info and the body produces antibodies to the vector virus. Plus the heart problems.

This is the same technique used in the USA to insert ten genes into a pig heart for human transplantation.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2660068]JJ + ARN is OK.[/QUOTE]Maybe people will get in like this, but on Thursday 3rd February, JJ + Moderna booster was not accepted for my friend at Aca Gold. He had to provide a test because reception only counted JJ as one shot.

Germany no longer considers 1 JJ "fully vaccinated" as of 25th January:

[QUOTE] If you received the Johnson & Johnson's Janssen vaccine, only people who received two jabs are considered fully vaccinated.

[url]https://www.germany.info/us-de/covid-19/2321562[/url].[/QUOTE]Basically if you only have 1 J&J plus 1 pfizer / Moderna booster, you are considered fully vaccinated but not boostered. 1 J&J with "booster" is now the same as having 2 Pfizers or 2 Moderna. As such, a negative test will be required.

Some may get lucky.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2660229]Maybe people will get in like this, but on Thursday 3rd February, JJ + Moderna booster was not accepted for my friend at Aca Gold. He had to provide a test because reception only counted JJ as one shot.

Germany no longer considers 1 JJ "fully vaccinated" as of 25th January:

Basically if you only have 1 J&J plus 1 pfizer / Moderna booster, you are considered fully vaccinated but not boostered. 1 J&J with "booster" is now the same as having 2 Pfizers or 2 Moderna. As such, a negative test will be required.

Some may get lucky.[/QUOTE]Maybe because they remember my pretty face, but most clubs don't even read on my phone, just seeing EU and QR code. Maybe Sharks will still ask test, when I used to do on 2021. I wonder what will be for Austrian clubs when Austria decided compulsory vaccination and booster every 6 months. I don't want more dose, enough for me, when I worry for my heart under intense violent effort.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2659924]Since you want to play the dummy, most of the businesses open after 10 pm are bars and clubs and in these places, people tend to forget face masks and social distancing.[/QUOTE]They can try to spray everyone down with 190 proof Everclear to kill the covid.

Or maybe put some vodka in a misting system to sanitize the air.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2660332]Maybe because they remember my pretty face, but most clubs don't even read on my phone, just seeing EU and QR code. Maybe Sharks will still ask test, when I used to do on 2021. I wonder what will be for Austrian clubs when Austria decided compulsory vaccination and booster every 6 months. I don't want more dose, enough for me, when I worry for my heart under intense violent effort.[/QUOTE]Yes yes, there may be people who get through if the reception recognize you.

But better to spread true information than wrong info that can fuck other people at the door after traveling far to visit clubs. Like last year when you say Oase does not provide test or that test is needed for vaccinated. I prefer truth.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2660113]Switzerland is well on its way too. Sweden will drop all of their 'restrictions' from Wednesday.

No surprises if Germany and Austria are the last in Europe. We'll see.[/QUOTE]Yes more dominoes will fall for sure, likely in an Eastward pattern following the Omicron wave. Most western nations have peaked in cases and are just waiting for the 2-3 week delay in hospitalizations and deaths.

I think you are right about Germany being amongst the last to drop restrictions but I hesitate to criticize them because they have shown to have handled the situation better than most large western nations. For sure Bavaria will be the last area to loosen but they are Germany's Eastern wall from Eastern European nations that have had much worse situations.

At the same time, their hospitalizations and deaths never increased with Omicron despite the rise in cases. I would not be surprised if they dropped restrictions before France who saw many more deaths and hospitalizations, perhaps even before Italy since both countries still have comparatively much higher death and hospital rates.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2660496]Yes yes, there may be people who get through if the reception recognize you.

But better to spread true information than wrong info that can fuck other people at the door after traveling far to visit clubs. Like last year when you say Oase does not provide test or that test is needed for vaccinated. I prefer truth.[/QUOTE]I agree on this, when I don't understand why difference between France where JJ + ARN = valid pass and not anymore in Germany, when Germany and France claim to be brothers of EU. If I want to visit clubs where no test on site like at Samya, Sharks, GT Oceans, I will test before jumping in car. At 6, I remember they scanned and took temperature, so Ok for my pass.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2660229]Maybe people will get in like this, but on Thursday 3rd February, JJ + Moderna booster was not accepted for my friend at Aca Gold. He had to provide a test because reception only counted JJ as one shot.

Germany no longer considers 1 JJ "fully vaccinated" as of 25th January:

Basically if you only have 1 J&J plus 1 pfizer / Moderna booster, you are considered fully vaccinated but not boostered. 1 J&J with "booster" is now the same as having 2 Pfizers or 2 Moderna. As such, a negative test will be required.

Some may get lucky.[/QUOTE]EA, thank you for the ground intel on J&J and the link. I will bookmark it and monitor moving forward. I did notice that J&J plus one additional J&J makes you fully vaxxed, but if rule is 2 G+ then still a problem? Also, no mention at all of Novavax on that DE link so maybe a two shot Novavax plan might be in the cards. Obviously still wait and see on that. Starting to think about a trip to DE in later May. Hope springs eternal LOL.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2661073]EA, thank you for the ground intel on J&J and the link. I will bookmark it and monitor moving forward. I did notice that J&J plus one additional J&J makes you fully vaxxed, but if rule is 2 G+ then still a problem? Also, no mention at all of Novavax on that DE link so maybe a two shot Novavax plan might be in the cards. Obviously still wait and see on that. Starting to think about a trip to DE in later May. Hope springs eternal LOL.[/QUOTE]If you have 2 J&J then you just have to test everyday. Not a problem at clubs with fast testing on site. Otherwise, googling "testzentrum" would find something close, plenty of them. Kostenlos means "no cost" so if you see that, just give them a German address like your hotel and the test is free and ready in 15 minutes. IKEAs also have test centers for free if you don't see a free temporary testzentrum.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2661325]If you have 2 J&J then you just have to test everyday. Not a problem at clubs with fast testing on site. Otherwise, googling "testzentrum" would find something close, plenty of them. Kostenlos means "no cost" so if you see that, just give them a German address like your hotel and the test is free and ready in 15 minutes. IKEAs also have test centers for free if you don't see a free temporary testzentrum.[/QUOTE]People might as well get one Johnson, on Pfizer, and one Moderna. The vaccine Trifecta.

That way they can just have three doses and then wait until March for the fourth Omicron special dose!

Of course now Omicron has a new version BA. 2 which will reinfect everyone who had the original Omicron.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2661445]Of course now Omicron has a new version BA. 2 which will reinfect everyone who had the original Omicron.[/QUOTE]Well that's not how it works.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2661445]People might as well get one Johnson, on Pfizer, and one Moderna. The vaccine Trifecta.

That way they can just have three doses and then wait until March for the fourth Omicron special dose!

Of course now Omicron has a new version BA. 2 which will reinfect everyone who had the original Omicron.[/QUOTE]With my single JJ + moderna, I was a good student doing what France asked me, so no more, that s enough. If I m asked, I will test at Sharks like I did on 2021 when I was not vaccinated before November.

Macron not wanting to get chipped by Russia:

[URL]https://amp.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3166601/emmanuel-macron-refused-covid-19-test-meeting-vladimir-putin-so[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2661727]With my single JJ + moderna, I was a good student doing what France asked me, so no more, that s enough. If I m asked, I will test at Sharks like I did on 2021 when I was not vaccinated before November.[/QUOTE]A French guy I know, I find him funny from his experiences and reactions, who got covid + 1 dose + booster, was told by desk 1 dose only work if JJ + booster, maybe why worked for me. If I need test, no problem, I did so many times at Sharks.

You're a moron. He refused because he's Vladimir Vladimirovich's equal.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2661746]Macron not wanting to get chipped by Russia:

[URL]https://amp.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3166601/emmanuel-macron-refused-covid-19-test-meeting-vladimir-putin-so[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2661746]Macron not wanting to get chipped by Russia:

[URL]https://amp.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3166601/emmanuel-macron-refused-covid-19-test-meeting-vladimir-putin-so[/URL][/QUOTE]Macron refused PCR test made by a Russian doctor, when he made one when leaving France. So, ex KGB Putin was afraid of French virus.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2661884]You're a moron. He refused because he's Vladimir Vladimirovich's equal.[/QUOTE]What would have been really cool is if they both simultaneously swabbed their own noses with a schnelltest, and then after the results were in thrown both of them into a metal can and lit on fire in order to destroy their DNA.

Clearly Sirioja does not like others stealing the spotlight as it threatens his very apparent desire to be perceived as the sole source of all information FKK related.

The news reports that 10,000 vaccinated in the USA experience permanent tinnitus.

Months after people declaring that the sky was falling in FKK land, nothing. Boy were they wrong!

Hessen clubs closed for just one and for no reason. NRW didn't change much. German hospitals never filled. Deaths didn't surge, nothing. Omicron did so little to affect clubs except increase widespread immunity. Go Germany! Each European country is loosening restriction one by one after seeing the non-effect of Omicron. Onward March!

Drink internet, don't listen to French TV.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-26..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662735]Clearly Sirioja does not like others stealing the spotlight as it threatens his very apparent desire to be perceived as the sole source of all information FKK related.[/QUOTE]Since first reopening under covid, how many times did you visit Globe? Around 10 times for me to judge the fall for expensive 130/30, GT Vienna? Twice for me with GFE for 200/60, Wellcum? 8 visits for me and no wow for my eyes and in bed on 2020 and 2021, when Sharks was on best level on 2021 I saw since end of 2016, with few really pretty and GFE girls, except one, others for 100/60, when I look only for this. Just real arithmetic's and facts like a lot of Omicron deaths. Maybe why Biden want war with Russia even US will lose again after Vietnam and Afghanistan, but to try to make forget around 1 million deaths under covid and maybe more among without insurance and illegals, but even mercenary Putin is fat now, but I m sure in his mind he remember he is able to eat his shit and drink his pee to survive. War would make US rich like on previous, but I wish EU will be more important for Putin, when EU don't want war, opposite to Biden.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2663022]The news reports that 10,000 vaccinated in the USA experience permanent tinnitus.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I can attest to that condition. The question is whether it's the covid causing the issue, or the J&J vaccine causing it. The CDC recognizes the issue with J&J. Good luck ferreting out this one.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663103]Months after people declaring that the sky was falling in FKK land, nothing. Boy were they wrong!

Hessen clubs closed for just one and for no reason. NRW didn't change much. German hospitals never filled. Deaths didn't surge, nothing. Omicron did so little to affect clubs except increase widespread immunity. Go Germany! Each European country is loosening restriction one by one after seeing the non-effect of Omicron. Onward March!

Drink internet, don't listen to French TV.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-26..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN[/URL].[/QUOTE]I don't think Germans think they have so few deaths under covid and brothels were closed twice and even under Omicron for Hessen and Bavaria. I think Biden needs war to make forget US lost war versus covid and even versus little kitten Omicron but making 11 September daily for weeks. Painful balls don t have memory nor respect for millions covid deaths, when they even need to rush, not able to control, on bad time with be team girls and even for low level. But yes brothels will survive from covid like they did from joke new law only working for registration, but still riskier than covid AO on business.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2663231]Unfortunately I can attest to that condition. The question is whether it's the covid causing the issue, or the J&J vaccine causing it. The CDC recognizes the issue with J&J. Good luck ferreting out this one.[/QUOTE]Much higher rate in vaccinated as compared to regular population so it is caused by the vaccine. But you can't sue the vaccine makers. Since they bribed Congress.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2663022]The news reports that 10,000 vaccinated in the USA experience permanent tinnitus.[/QUOTE]I know that VARES data is made ridiculously hard for normal people to get access to due to lobbying from big pharma. But you can just look at the EEC data and calculate up the numbers to see how many million lives have been ruined by the quackzines. All divided on serious side effects. Tinnitus is just one such. Not even taking into account large underreportings.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2661884]You're a moron. He refused because he's Vladimir Vladimirovich's equal.[/QUOTE]Well I refuse to believe that ruining millions of lives due to vaccine side effects lasting a lifetime and causing sick people to spend more on drugs due to the side effects are the only reason for the plandemic push.

Sue me!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663103]Drink internet, don't listen to French TV.[/QUOTE]I don't think the problem was with what was said on French TV or in French newspapers.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663103]Months after people declaring that the sky was falling in FKK land, nothing. Boy were they wrong!

Hessen clubs closed for just one and for no reason. NRW didn't change much. German hospitals never filled. Deaths didn't surge, nothing. Omicron did so little to affect clubs except increase widespread immunity. Go Germany! Each European country is loosening restriction one by one after seeing the non-effect of Omicron.[/QUOTE]Omicron changed the rules. I don't understand why people get stuck on one opinion when faced with new information. Well, I guess people with an overinflated ego never can admit they are wrong. In Switzerland the Corona task force admitted that what happened during the Omicron wave was much better than the most optimistic estimate they had. So they will relax rules very soon. In Germany too, they start relaxing land by land.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2663223]Since first reopening under covid, how many times did you visit Globe? Around 10 times for me to judge the fall for expensive 130/30, GT Vienna? Twice for me with GFE for 200/60, Wellcum? 8 visits for me and no wow for my eyes and in bed on 2020 and 2021, when Sharks was on best level on 2021 I saw since end of 2016, with few really pretty and GFE girls, except one, others for 100/60, when I look only for this. [/QUOTE]Eight and twelve. BBBJ DFK for free.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2663022]The news reports that 10,000 vaccinated in the USA experience permanent tinnitus.[/QUOTE]Maybe you could try to find fresher news.

[URL]https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/can-the-covid-19-vaccine-lead-to-hearing-issues[/URL]

For your information, the incidence rate of tinnitus is around 6 or 7 per 10 000 person-year. 210 M of US citizens were vaccinated in Sept. 2021, do the maths that makes something like 120 000-140 000 persons suffering from tinnitus.

[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25470370/[/URL]

So as long as we don't have the total number of US citizens suffering from tinnitus in 2021, it's rather difficult to blame only the vaccine.

Some rather annoying side effects of Covid (beside death) : [URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33631340/[/URL].

[QUOTE]Sequelae included persistent fatigue (39-73% of assessed persons), breathlessness (39-74%), decrease in quality of life (44-69%), impaired pulmonary function, abnormal CT findings including pulmonary fibrosis (39-83%), evidence of peri-/perimyo-/myocarditis (3-26%), changes in microstructural and functional brain integrity with persistent neurological symptoms (55%), increased incidence of psychiatric diagnoses (5.8% versus 2.5-3.4% in controls), incomplete recovery of olfactory and gustatory dysfunction (33-36% of evaluated persons). [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2663508]I don't think the problem was with what was said on French TV or in French newspapers.[/QUOTE]When Macron is ready to kill people to be reelected, but our doctors disagree. If Omicron is such kitten, why to vaccinate, why booster? We didn't need before 2020. I didn't need until November, but just to keep my freedom. And Omicron will kill more, more than 2500 known deaths yesterday in US, nearly 400 in France. Still quite a lot.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2663551]Omicron changed the rules. I don't understand why people get stuck on one opinion when faced with new information. Well, I guess people with an overinflated ego never can admit they are wrong. In Switzerland the Corona task force admitted that what happened during the Omicron wave was much better than the most optimistic estimate they had. So they will relax rules very soon. In Germany too, they start relaxing land by land.[/QUOTE]Ego driven indeed. Omicron indeed changed the picture quite nicely, especially for the outcomes for the vaccinated and especially in Germany. Barely a blip on healthcare strain and death in Germany. We've finally come around to what naysayers were falsely saying in the 2020, Omicron has fulfilled their previously misinformed assumption, only the old and sick are getting serious disease. The vaccinated and the healthy are hardly affected by Omicron at all. FKK land most certainly have been unaffected by Omicron. The Hessen closure was unnecessary. When will Bavaria open?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663692]Ego driven indeed. Omicron indeed changed the picture quite nicely, especially for the outcomes for the vaccinated and especially in Germany. Barely a blip on healthcare strain and death in Germany. We've finally come around to what naysayers were falsely saying in the 2020, Omicron has fulfilled their previously misinformed assumption, only the old and sick are getting serious disease. The vaccinated and the healthy are hardly affected by Omicron at all. FKK land most certainly have been unaffected by Omicron. The Hessen closure was unnecessary. When will Bavaria open?[/QUOTE]What about still deaths figures? 11 September without towers daily in US since beginning of year, just lies? Like your visits at GT Vienna, Wellcum and Globe when you go for cheap.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2663223]Since first reopening under covid, how many times did you visit Globe? Around 10 times for me to judge the fall for expensive 130/30, GT Vienna? Twice for me with GFE for 200/60, Wellcum? 8 visits for me and no wow for my eyes and in bed on 2020 and 2021, when Sharks was on best level on 2021 I saw since end of 2016, with few really pretty and GFE girls, except one, others for 100/60, when I look only for this. Just real arithmetic's and facts like a lot of Omicron deaths. Maybe why Biden want war with Russia even US will lose again after Vietnam and Afghanistan, but to try to make forget around 1 million deaths under covid and maybe more among without insurance and illegals, but even mercenary Putin is fat now, but I m sure in his mind he remember he is able to eat his shit and drink his pee to survive. War would make US rich like on previous, but I wish EU will be more important for Putin, when EU don't want war, opposite to Biden.[/QUOTE]Biden wants war with Putin? What the fuck is wrong with you? Who is the asshole rolling 100,000 soldiers into Ukraine after having occupied Crimea?

Only restrictions remaining in Switzerland are masks in public transit and hospitals. Everything else, gone. Austria lifts restrictions on 5 March.

Not sure what the number of deaths in US have to do with restrictions in Germany or Austria.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2663551]Omicron changed the rules. I don't understand why people get stuck on one opinion when faced with new information. Well, I guess people with an overinflated ego never can admit they are wrong. In Switzerland the Corona task force admitted that what happened during the Omicron wave was much better than the most optimistic estimate they had. So they will relax rules very soon. In Germany too, they start relaxing land by land.[/QUOTE]The Swiss confirmed today. Except masks in public transport and care homes it looks like all restrictions will be gone.

Now 13 visits to Welcum. GFE for 140 e per hour with BBBJ. Save 10 e per room compared to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2663665] ... If Omicron is such kitten, why to vaccinate, why booster? We didn't need before 2020..[/QUOTE]The current year is 2022. In the meantime, in North America and Europe, most people at risk are vaccinated, the risk of serious disease is significantly reduced. Who is at risk and not vaccinated right now, is by their own choice.

And to the various fascist governments of Can the, Germany, Austria, Italy.

I am glad I did not take the clot shot.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2664017]The current year is 2022. In the meantime, in North America and Europe, most people at risk are vaccinated, the risk of serious disease is significantly reduced. Who is at risk and not vaccinated right now, is by their own choice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2664017]The current year is 2022. In the meantime, in North America and Europe, most people at risk are vaccinated, the risk of serious disease is significantly reduced. Who is at risk and not vaccinated right now, is by their own choice.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly. I do not consider Omicron a serious threat in large part to the fact that most people in Western nations are vaccinated or have been naturally immunized. Largely, those getting seriously sick are getting sick due to their own accord and right to not get vaccinated. Hospitals have easily absorbed the surge of the seriously unvaccinated. 2000,3000, 4000 deaths per day in western nations, it's no longer a moral concern for me as these are the result of personal life decisions for which people are entitled. As long the number of these people remain below hospital critical levels, covid is over until / if some other variant arises. For now, life must move forward and as the Danes have apolitically declared, they have catered to and protected the old and the sick. Covid has become a less serious threat. It's time to give the rest of society back their lives and futures.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2664017]The current year is 2022. In the meantime, in North America and Europe, most people at risk are vaccinated, the risk of serious disease is significantly reduced. Who is at risk and not vaccinated right now, is by their own choice.[/QUOTE]Don't you read or hear about still so many deaths under Omicron on 2022? And pressure for vaccination and booster, when we should not need if Omicron is just little sweet kitten. US must be not so far than 100.000 deaths from Omicron since beginning of the year, not enough for you? Too many for me to say no risk from Omicron. Should even kill more when will be less restrictions.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2664013]Now 13 visits to Welcum. GFE for 140 e per hour with BBBJ. Save 10 e per room compared to Sharks.[/QUOTE]I agree BBBJ is very standard at Wellcum, but I'm very sorry for you if you paid 150/60 for Cosmina at Sharks when some French told me they paid 100/60 for GFE.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2664119]My thoughts exactly. I do not consider Omicron a serious threat in large part to the fact that most people in Western nations are vaccinated or have been naturally immunized. Largely, those getting seriously sick are getting sick due to their own accord and right to not get vaccinated. Hospitals have easily absorbed the surge of the seriously unvaccinated. 2000,3000, 4000 deaths per day in western nations, it's no longer a moral concern for me as these are the result of personal life decisions for which people are entitled. As long the number of these people remain below hospital critical levels, covid is over until / if some other variant arises. For now, life must move forward and as the Danes have apolitically declared, they have catered to and protected the old and the sick. Covid has become a less serious threat. It's time to give the rest of society back their lives and futures.[/QUOTE]Everybody will get in contact with Omicron sooner or later, it is just too transmissible. In Switzerland during 4 weeks 900 k people tested positive, so the real number is much higher, the corona task force said that as much as 40% of the population could have got it. During this time the number of severe cases and deaths was dropping continuously. It would be really stupid to add restrictions as long as the hospitals are not overwhelmed.

People at risk are vaccinated. Who is not vaccinated by now, does not want to be vaccinated. If people don't understand by now that vaccines reduce the risk for severe disease or death, they will never understand this.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2664149]I agree BBBJ is very standard at Wellcum, but I'm very sorry for you if you paid 150/60 for Cosmina at Sharks when some French told me they paid 100/60 for GFE.[/QUOTE]From what dark insecure place do you come up with this stuff? Unlike you, I've never paid a girl more than club rate anywhere. Ever. In this case I actually get a discounted rate, something you will never ever know because the girls don't actually like you personally.

20 March. Germany ends most covid rules.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-plans-end-of-covid-restrictions/a-60800111[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2664359]From what dark insecure place do you come up with this stuff? Unlike you, I've never paid a girl more than club rate anywhere. Ever. In this case I actually get a discounted rate, something you will never ever know because the girls don't actually like you personally.[/QUOTE]When you are just faker Mursenary / Takedown who claims visited 13 times Wellcum since covid on only 2 tours and not reporting like after each cheap clubs. I know you and your tastes and not reliable many profiles.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2664362]20 March. Germany ends most covid rules.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-plans-end-of-covid-restrictions/a-60800111[/URL][/QUOTE]Exzellent news! I pushed my DE flight out to May, thinking the LU would be better after Ortho Easter but now I'm regretting it. Maybe I'll start hunting around for a cheap seat to Zurich to tide me over LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2664551]When you are just faker Mursenary / Takedown who claims visited 13 times Wellcum since covid on only 2 tours and not reporting like after each cheap clubs. I know you and your tastes and not reliable many profiles.[/QUOTE]Don't forget Samson too.

14 times to Welcum now.

Cheap taste? We all fuck the same girls!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2664013]Now 13 visits to Welcum. GFE for 140 e per hour with BBBJ. Save 10 e per room compared to Sharks.[/QUOTE]GFE?

Are you for real? LOL!

Define it please!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2664628]GFE?

Are you for real? LOL!

Define it please![/QUOTE]He claimed 14 visits at Wellcum since he returned on July 2021 when he is cheap in mind and Pinocchio. 140/60 for low level on average would be good when 150/60 for higher level than at Globe is not. Fortunately he is not a reference for me and when I saw his choices at Sharks or must be the only one to get CBJ at 6 where BBBJ is full standard, even when I'm not a regular.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2664622]Cheap taste? We all fuck the same girls![/QUOTE]The girls are cheap and they lose their freshness when they fuck somebody else.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2664726]The girls are cheap and they lose their freshness when they fuck somebody else.[/QUOTE]Nah, that only applies when you are the one with the smaller cock.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2664691]He claimed 14 visits at Wellcum since he returned on July 2021 when he is cheap in mind and Pinocchio. 140/60 for low level on average would be good when 150/60 for higher level than at Globe is not. Fortunately he is not a reference for me and when I saw his choices at Sharks or must be the only one to get CBJ at 6 where BBBJ is full standard, even when I'm not a regular.[/QUOTE]I've also roomed with 4 out of every 5 of your "beauties." By extension if my taste is bad, is yours.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2664726]The girls are cheap and they lose their freshness when they fuck somebody else.[/QUOTE]You should not find your US doctor who doesn't care about around 100 000 deaths under Omicron in his country on 2022, friend here at Globe, when he prefers to play grocer with my French obsessed follower. They are not able to understand paying even cheap for so average looks is very expensive, when prettier girls than at Globe for 150/60 is good deal compare to expensive Globe.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2664861]Nah, that only applies when you are the one with the smaller cock.[/QUOTE]You mean the submissive cuckold? Who get sent in the garden while his love interest fucks another dude that she only met once before?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2664726]The girls are cheap and they lose their freshness when they fuck somebody else.[/QUOTE]It's a repeated pattern of infatuation to scorned obsession.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2664987]You mean the submissive cuckold? Who get sent in the garden while his love interest fucks another dude that she only met once before?[/QUOTE]Don't be so metaphysical now. Jealousy is a side effect of monogamy. And that in turn is a side effect of good pussies being in short supply. Or that some other dude widened her up too much compared to your metrics. In FKKs that is not an issue. And maybe in the future that can be said about anywhere outside of fkks also. Maybe girls can even through nanotech regrow their tightness, or men can grow a larger dick.

The possibilities are endless! Maybe you can even grow a meter long tentacle with cockhead nerves on them too?

See who was triggered when I said that girls lose their "freshness" when they fuck somebody else, Personally, I am aware of the fact that prostitutes fuck pretty much everybody for the right amount of cash.

Personally I find it very expensive to drive every weekend for 6 hours one way, stay all day in the club in the hope to get one room, then drive another 6 hours back.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2665048]Personally I find it very expensive to drive every weekend for 6 hours one way, stay all day in the club in the hope to get one room, then drive another 6 hours back.[/QUOTE]That's because you're not a no life stalker. They think in a different way. When your only contacts with human beings are in a sex club, you cherish these moments.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2665043]Don't be so metaphysical now. Jealousy is a side effect of monogamy. And that in turn is a side effect of good pussies being in short supply. Or that some other dude widened her up too much compared to your metrics. In FKKs that is not an issue. And maybe in the future that can be said about anywhere outside of fkks also. Maybe girls can even through nanotech regrow their tightness, or men can grow a larger dick.

The possibilities are endless! Maybe you can even grow a meter long tentacle with cockhead nerves on them too?[/QUOTE]Reality everybody and staff witnessed weekly on 2017 is LR superstar came to me on each of my visits to start together and repeating later on evening / night, even Germans had to wait and she didn't even give a look to my obsessed follower who wrote on Youppie forum she lost her freshness. Everybody can check on LR thread on Youppie, girl Emma. She became so mad when I stopped with her, I m fully sure she was never so mad about any other guy not repeating. I know she suffered from her divorce but she might not be so mad about her ex to buy him a car with her first month at LR on December 2016. The Fallen princess. I loved when she was with white lingerie and stockings, and ponytail, what a pleasure to put her off and she looked at my way with round eyes, for sure she never experienced.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2665048]Personally I find it very expensive to drive every weekend for 6 hours one way, stay all day in the club in the hope to get one room, then drive another 6 hours back.[/QUOTE]And I left many times your Globe full heavy, when I don't go with your level of girls, average faces: Scarlet, Ariana, Alice, Romina, I would not even go for free when you pay expensive 130/30. But you don't know RN19 bumps, limited to 80 but making jump 4 wheels when up to 180 on some parts, great adrenaline when France is not snails Switzerland. Stressing to drive in Switzerland but so relaxing fun in Germany, my ex FKK friend told me: what do You prefer? Speeding or girls? Only very few girls are able to give me same level of sensations. Average frustrate me and I feel to waste my money and time, when I'm a quality guy, reason why I have too many followers, because they know I'm a specialist for beauty, but they don't understand girls behave from what we are. On last Summer, I drove 3000 kms on week end for Zoncolan, Stelvio and Mortirolo. Moving my meat on day, driving at night. Easy.

Actually out of those 4 I have only been with Romina and that a few years ago.

When looking at my cost I consider both time and money cost. If I decide to go to Globe, 30 minutes later I am in the Globe showers, 30 minutes to 1 hour to decide on the girl, 1 hour room, another 30 minutes to get home. 3 hours total door to door time cost, money cost CHF 375. Club Swiss visits are for me a bit more expensive it takes me 45-60 minutes to get there, so total time cost 3 h 30 minutes to 4 h, total money cost CHF 260. It would suck big time to plan every single weekend in advance around brothels and then just getting to the club to take twice the time of my total visit. And then not even knowing if "the one" is working or available.

I might be in Frankfurt for work in the near future, then I might try some Hessen clubs. I hear they are full of virgin Victoria's Secret models.

Yes everyone witnessed on this day of January 2017 that for my second meeting with her, she sent Bilbo the stalker away to fuck with me. It was fucking hilarious!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2665046]See who was triggered when I said that girls lose their "freshness" when they fuck somebody else, Personally, I am aware of the fact that prostitutes fuck pretty much everybody for the right amount of cash.[/QUOTE]Only triggered to lecture you on reality. LOL.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2665290]Yes everyone witnessed on this day of January 2017 that for my second meeting with her, she sent Bilbo the stalker away to fuck with me. It was fucking hilarious![/QUOTE]Did she send you to fuck with Bilbo? I am actually quite well aware of The Lord of the Rings. But sorry to enlighten you with yet another fact of the day, however the stalker is named Gollum. Maybe it was him you fantasized about during the act?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2665290]Yes everyone witnessed on this day of January 2017 that for my second meeting with her, she sent Bilbo the stalker away to fuck with me. It was fucking hilarious![/QUOTE]And here is a video of BigB and Gollum's relationship.

There are at least 3 other videos of their adventures, but the translations on YouTube were only for Italian or French on those.

[URL]https://youtu.be/m8Ia2qByt5A[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2665358]Did she send you to fuck with Bilbo? I am actually quite well aware of The Lord of the Rings. But sorry to enlighten you with yet another fact of the day, however the stalker is named Gollum. Maybe it was him you fantasized about during the act?[/QUOTE]Nope, she sent him away so she could fuck with me instead, maybe it was part of their cuckolding games?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2665269]Actually out of those 4 I have only been with Romina and that a few years ago.

When looking at my cost I consider both time and money cost. If I decide to go to Globe, 30 minutes later I am in the Globe showers, 30 minutes to 1 hour to decide on the girl, 1 hour room, another 30 minutes to get home. 3 hours total door to door time cost, money cost CHF 375. Club Swiss visits are for me a bit more expensive it takes me 45-60 minutes to get there, so total time cost 3 h 30 minutes to 4 h, total money cost CHF 260. It would suck big time to plan every single weekend in advance around brothels and then just getting to the club to take twice the time of my total visit. And then not even knowing if "the one" is working or available.

I might be in Frankfurt for work in the near future, then I might try some Hessen clubs. I hear they are full of virgin Victoria's Secret models.[/QUOTE]Did I ever ask you money for my life? When I save from no escorts and when I love so much to speed drive. Yesterday when I woke up at 6 am, I had to resist so much at 6 NL just on border, when Germany called me. What do you think I did at closing 1 am under rain and in strong wind, really needing 2 hands, fighting with bad electronics quattro, sweating more than when I climb Zoncolan under 35 degrees. Hessen won't be for you, no rules there, like at Cleo. You have to be able to get from girls. You can't go to complain on desk like at Globe or Bruggen or LR, but make the game more interesting for ability to get. I never told full of models, but some girls at Sharks are prettier than now Globe girls, Beatrice Sharks now Natalia Globe was not one of the prettiest for me, when my best, most elegant and interesting for woman in bed was always for 100/60 for our 7 rooms on 2021. I wish at least You noticed the fall for girls quality at Globe when still same expensive, reason why from more than 10 visits per year and even not far on 2020 , but only 2 on 2021 , when Globe is now behind Cleo for me, less interesting for girls, and far behind Sharks or even 6 where I couldn't miss 178 bare feet on the floor supermodel with curvy ass new Mira. Ro who turned so passionate in bed under my taking care of her, passionate kisser coming to kiss again and again, drinking seminal liquid because she excited me with her becoming hard nipples on DATY, but not using paper, but putting all in her mouth and in DT and coming to really deeply kiss me. You don't find anymore this freshness at Globe. Of course, no silicon and no tattoo, fresh full natural. Yes, at Globe you don't see really uglies when Sylvana at Sharks, but except Sofia and Adriana for her freshness, not many real beauties. If you put Miss Sharks with light make up on pole podium, it would be riot at Globe. And she was so fresh in bed when she arrived from a German private. Unfortunately, she lost her freshness for sex even I know she tried her best to please me, reason why I had 12 rooms with her in about 3 months, twice on day at start when she was wow fresh. For only 100 or 150/60. Why to pay more expensive for lower quality and not only about girls but club, rooms. With money saved, I can pay gas and tires. Unfortunately, when I fought so much for on 2014/2015 to work as independent for my ex company and business relations, but after 2 years, covid stole my free time, because in France now, most of companies miss high efficient experts to make money, when I never claimed in FKK but I m paid for in my job and median Zurich salary 8000 CHF? Never impressed me, to solve what others are not able to, and are afraid we go to others, so I won't have anymore for a while same freedom, but I should not need to ask you money for all my leisure and kilometers and I m fully sure I won't need money when I will die. Level of studies, higher level than medical in France for me, and your own potential usually make your life, as parents tell children, and I can only thanks mine for all what they gave me. Interesting to feel all claimed business men potential in brothels, just laughable, when I never told to any WG, when many ask me if I'm doctor, from my knowledge of women body, but I learned with my girlfriends with who You learn much more than with prostitutes. Yesterday when I arrived early at 6 , after big breakfast for sporty, had a long warm jacuzzi, usually I don't like, but a 24 yo and not bad looking except hair style NL came with me after his sauna. It was his first time in brothels, he loved foods and wellness, quite good at 6. I took very long time to explain him he was wasting his time and money when he makes less than 2000 € per month, he should better find sex friend when he doesn't want girlfriend from NL women expectations and nothing about money, when it would suit me. When he could find Erika or Mira or Bulgarian claimed Aicha or Lizzi or Ramona or even Emma, he wasted 100 with 2 not pretty in kino. When we chat before he left very early, I wonder if he not did, just to feel it was waste of money, when maybe he was not sure to control with a beauty. I wish him to stay away, as I told him, when I think waste of time and money for those who can find prettier and much more clever outside and for more real, but I would feel uncomfortable with a girlfriend looking like my daughter. These clubs are to feel young, like my sports, when tasting freshness, kind of jouvence fountain but money spent, but I prefer than in casino.

The hobbit forgot to take his pills today.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2665461]Nope, she sent him away so she could fuck with me instead, maybe it was part of their cuckolding games?[/QUOTE]Excuses! I know how to read your first comment and what your subconscious was telling us.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2665520]Did I ever ask you money for my life? When I save from no escorts and when I love so much to speed drive. Yesterday when I woke up at 6 am, I had to resist so much at 6 NL just on border, when Germany called me. What do you think I did at closing 1 am under rain and in strong wind, really needing 2 hands, fighting with bad electronics quattro, sweating more than when I climb Zoncolan under 35 degrees. Hessen won't be for you, no rules there, like at Cleo. You have to be able to get from girls. You can't go to complain on desk like at Globe or Bruggen or LR, but make the game more interesting for ability to get. I never told full of models, but some girls at Sharks are prettier than now Globe girls, Beatrice Sharks now Natalia Globe was not one of the prettiest for me, when my best, most elegant and interesting for woman in bed was always for 100/60 for our 7 rooms on 2021. I wish at least You noticed the fall for girls quality at Globe when still same expensive, reason why from more than 10 visits per year and even not far on 2020 , but only 2 on 2021 , when Globe is now behind Cleo for me, less interesting for girls, and far behind Sharks or even 6 where I couldn't miss 178 bare feet on the floor supermodel with curvy ass new Mira. Ro who turned so passionate in bed under my taking care of her, passionate kisser coming to kiss again and again, drinking seminal liquid because she excited me with her becoming hard nipples on DATY, but not using paper, but putting all in her mouth and in DT and coming to really deeply kiss me. You don't find anymore this freshness at Globe. [/QUOTE]No rules and more and more confirmed, not same rate for all, funny some Germans pay more expensive. Make the game there more and more interesting. So far from old fat uglies who went to cry on Bruggen desk when new fresh girls didn't kiss them, some being fired because of these guys. But 100/30 and 150/60, I won't accept 200/60, even for much prettier than Angela, may attract beauties Globe is not anymore able to attract. 2022 start on really high level for me with my Hungarian 40 yo woman for twice wow GFE for 80/60. Our room yesterday would be in my top 3 at Globe, higher level than Joana, both Sofia, Selina. Only last room with superstar Kate and discovery with Rebeka can compete but not for rate. Look forward repeating so good.

Unfortunately the guys giving girls 150 e for 1 hour at Sharks is a major problem in the FKK scene.

It's up to the strong-willed mongers, who can resist, to keep prices reasonable. 150 e for 1 HR in Germany is to be kept a sucker's price. At best, that's the price for visiting privates, not FKKs.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2665035]It's a repeated pattern of infatuation to scorned obsession.[/QUOTE]Should we make a betting pool how long it will take for the current infatuation to make it to scorned obsession?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2665948]Unfortunately the guys giving girls 150 e for 1 hour at Sharks is a major problem in the FKK scene.

It's up to the strong-willed mongers, who can resist, to keep prices reasonable. 150 e for 1 HR in Germany is to be kept a sucker's price. At best, that's the price for visiting privates, not FKKs.[/QUOTE]150460 is comparable to private, that seems true. Private versus FKK. There are trade offs. With FKK you get to see the SPs IRL, compare and contrast them to the other SPs that day. You get to have some couch time to check for rapport. You can verify service levels in person prior to Zimmer. All pluses. No guarantees once you are in Zimmer of course. With private, you run the risk of photoshopping and poor service levels with little accountability. Once you land a great private, you're all set, until of course, you get bored. I think the Ro mafia is quite aware of these factors, esp after their learning curve during Covid shutdowns. An increase in supply sure would help. Putin might have something to say about that soon.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2665964]150460 is comparable to private, that seems true. Private versus FKK. There are trade offs. With FKK you get to see the SPs IRL, compare and contrast them to the other SPs that day. You get to have some couch time to check for rapport. You can verify service levels in person prior to Zimmer. All pluses. No guarantees once you are in Zimmer of course. With private, you run the risk of photoshopping and poor service levels with little accountability. Once you land a great private, you're all set, until of course, you get bored. I think the Ro mafia is quite aware of these factors, esp after their learning curve during Covid shutdowns.
[/QUOTE]With all pros and cons mentioned being true, the price difference has always been there offsetting the extra entry cost for an FKK. For guys doing only one room, instead of 150 e, it makes it 215 e. Yes you get the benefit of seeing a girl before making the effort to drive somewhere just to be disappointed. But you get that same benefit in Red Light Districts and Eros houses or normal brothels without having to pay the substantial FKK entries. Allowing prices to rise to the same levels as privates and non-FKK brothels is destroying what makes an FKK unique, naturalist fuck fest. One roomers paying one roomer prices would do everyone a favor by keeping their pricing at the non-entry price brothels and privates.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2665964]An increase in supply sure would help. Putin might have something to say about that soon.[/QUOTE]I think this is a pipe dream. Putin knows annexing Ukraine would be too costly for him. This is just gamesmanship aimed to be disruptive. It's no coincidence that he's doing this during a time of economic uncertainty, when covid is wrapping up in the western world, disrupting the time that would otherwise be used to establish economic stability.

Unless Russia has some secret treaty with other powers such as China, the cost of war against NATO nations seem to be of little benefit. Putin is no dummy.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2665948]Unfortunately the guys giving girls 150 e for 1 hour at Sharks is a major problem in the FKK scene.

It's up to the strong-willed mongers, who can resist, to keep prices reasonable. 150 e for 1 HR in Germany is to be kept a sucker's price. At best, that's the price for visiting privates, not FKKs.[/QUOTE]Indeed, 150 is the going rate for privates across Europe. And that is without FKK entry fees. So at that price, much of the reason to visit falls away. Personally to me it was all about getting in maybe 3 in a day. But at this pricing, that strategy is pretty much redundant. Now its smarter to just visit privates. So the FKK's will lose from this. But we can't really blame them considering how they charge the girls for their entries. That's the culprit. Preferably they should automate all the staff jobs at the biggest FKK's to cut cost. Beijing Olympics style.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2665955]Should we make a betting pool how long it will take for the current infatuation to make it to scorned obsession?[/QUOTE]It does take a very special woman to put up with the weird mongers for more than a year at best. The naive new ones enjoy the comforting confirmation in the beginning, but to women who have built their stable of regulars eventually shed the weird ones, hence the year mark. Now there are some special, very professional girls who are able to keep the face and just take the money and run for years on end.

Short answer, 9 months to a year.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2665964]An increase in supply sure would help. Putin might have something to say about that soon.[/QUOTE]I should probably leave room open to the fact that Ukraine is not a NATO nation and there is no obligation for Western-North Atlantic powers to intervene. But not intervening does have an eerie resemblance to the Chamberlain position of appeasement prior to WWII. I'm leaning on the hopes that western powers are trying to avoid that position of weakness.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666001]I should probably leave room open to the fact that Ukraine is not a NATO nation and there is no obligation for Western-North Atlantic powers to intervene.[/QUOTE]The western powers already intervened when they sent, and continue to send, tons of lethal aid to Ukraine.

As far as refugees go, Poland has already stated they are willing to accommodate Ukrainians.

Entries are not the culprit. They have not significantly changed recently. Private girls still have to pay for their hotel rooms or apartments, offsetting entry prices, not to mention the incidence of robbery and other worse crimes the girls endured when working privately. At least 3 girls last year told me that they would not go back to the privates after recounting multiple traumatic events.

In addition to the included place of work, FKK entries for the girls provide for security, offset food and drink cost, and offsetting need for advertisement by providing effortless customer traffic.

Again, the 150 for60 payers are contributing to the further destruction of the Hessen FKK scene. They really should be visiting other types of brothels and sex houses instead of destroying a good thing for everyone else.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2666009]The western powers already intervened when they sent, and continue to send, tons of lethal aid to Ukraine.

As far as refugees go, Poland has already stated they are willing to accommodate Ukrainians.[/QUOTE]Sure sure. But direct intervention is on a totally other level.

Many pundits, even the Ukrainian Foreign Minister, have said the 100,000 Russian troops would not even be a threat for Russia to reach Kiev.

[QUOTE]Dmytro Kuleba told reporters, The number of Russian troops massed along the border of Ukraine and occupied territories of Ukraine is large, it poses a threat to Ukraine, a direct threat to Ukraine; however, at the moment, as we speak, this number is insufficient for a full-scale offensive against Ukraine along the entire Ukrainian border.

Kulebas statement came just hours after Ukraines President, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, urged Ukrainians during a nationwide broadcast to remain calm, but have no childish illusions about the magnitude of the Russian threat. Protect your body from viruses, your brain from lies, your heart from panic, he urged.[/QUOTE]As such, my skepticism is not that western / nato powers would not take refugees, it's that there will not be actual large scale conflict to create refugees to begin with.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666010]Entries are not the culprit. They have not significantly changed recently. Private girls still have to pay for their hotel rooms or apartments, offsetting entry prices, not to mention the incidence of robbery and other worse crimes the girls endured when working privately. At least 3 girls last year told me that they would not go back to the privates after recounting multiple traumatic events.

In addition to the included place of work, FKK entries for the girls provide for security, offset food and drink cost, and offsetting need for advertisement by providing effortless customer traffic.

Again, the 150 for60 payers are contributing to the further destruction of the Hessen FKK scene. They really should be visiting other types of brothels and sex houses instead of destroying a good thing for everyone else.[/QUOTE]100/30 and 150/60 are from Germans under lockdown in apartments, and prettier girls don't want to be for less expensive than long time girls living in Germany. I prefer my elegant and most interesting for 100/60 , but I think these rates can attract some beauties, but everybody can go to less pretty for 50/30 when it is more expensive and waste of money for me. Some not pretty get these rates business and some pay 200/60 for Angela who was for 100/60 before covid. Girls will never accept lower rate now, they prefer less rooms but for these rates, or just rushing suck with condom and fuck on a bad day. Some girls don't ask same rate to all of us.

I hate Putin but have to admit he is clever when declaring Dombass independent, what they waited when they want to be Russian and not Ukrainian, so they will join Russia welcoming them. Nerves war and he is expert for this. Sad for Ukraine already so poor. Maybe they should let Dombass which mostly don't feel Ukrainian and join EU, when Putin just doesn't care about papy Biden, Macron and bald German. After Crimea, Putin wants black sea. Biden wanted to play strong to hide covid lost war for US, but he can't compete with Putin. He shouldn't forget US lost all wars since 1945 , even wars usually make US rich, when lives have not much value.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666010]Entries are not the culprit. They have not significantly changed recently. Private girls still have to pay for their hotel rooms or apartments, offsetting entry prices, not to mention the incidence of robbery and other worse crimes the girls endured when working privately. At least 3 girls last year told me that they would not go back to the privates after recounting multiple traumatic events.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. And they have to manage the towels, the sheets, the food. They don't benefit from the security of the club. Some of the calls they got don't turn into an appointment. It's difficult for a girl to rent an apartment at a good price.

[QUOTE]Again, the 150 for60 payers are contributing to the further destruction of the Hessen FKK scene. [/QUOTE]And I'm pretty sure it will extend to other areas.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2666009]The western powers already intervened when they sent, and continue to send, tons of lethal aid to Ukraine.

As far as refugees go, Poland has already stated they are willing to accommodate Ukrainians.[/QUOTE]A question is that NATA uses the the 5.56 ammo and Ukraine is still on the AK 47 7.62 mm ammo. So are they sending M4's also?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666019]Sure sure. But direct intervention is on a totally other level.

Many pundits, even the Ukrainian Foreign Minister, have said the 100,000 Russian troops would not even be a threat for Russia to reach Kiev.

As such, my skepticism is not that western / nato powers would not take refugees, it's that there will not be actual large scale conflict to create refugees to begin with.[/QUOTE]Hah, and there it is, Russian troops into Eastern Ukraine. Hah.

But he's not invading, it's "peacekeeping. " Haha.

USA 2, Iraq 0.

Suck it Trebek.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666144]Hah, and there it is, Russian troops into Eastern Ukraine. Hah.

But he's not invading, it's "peacekeeping. " Haha.[/QUOTE]Come on man, it's all good. Kamala Harris was in Europe to make diplomacy work in the Russia-Ukraine conflict. She's the best for this, don't you know? LOL.

[URL]https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/02/19/curley-dont-worry-ukraine-border-czar-kamala-harris-is-on-the-case/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2665987]Indeed, 150 is the going rate for privates across Europe. And that is without FKK entry fees. So at that price, much of the reason to visit falls away. Personally to me it was all about getting in maybe 3 in a day. But at this pricing, that strategy is pretty much redundant. Now its smarter to just visit privates. So the FKK's will lose from this. But we can't really blame them considering how they charge the girls for their entries. That's the culprit. Preferably they should automate all the staff jobs at the biggest FKK's to cut cost. Beijing Olympics style.[/QUOTE]Still 40/30 clubs around Düsseldorf and can even find sometimes wow looks or in bed there. Many clubs officially increased to 60/30 like World, Bab, 6, Finca, when Oase desk still say rate is 50/30, so Oase and Sharks are less expensive than 4 previous when had more than 10 100/60 rooms on 2021 at Sharks with different girls. Maybe they made discount for my pretty face. I much prefer to spend 150 for a real natural beauty like elected Miss Sharks when she was fresh for sex, when no beauty on her level at Globe for double rate, rather than paying for girls I would not give a look in streets, then paying 40 or 50/30 for these average looks would be more expensive for me than 150/60 for a rare beauty. I just wish for new impressive looks like her when in brothels I need to be impressed by look to feel desire and enjoy in bed. But I find very interesting with my 40 yo woman who has pretty face, beautiful eyes and still beautiful body and I m not too big, too hard for her, relaxing for my mind, when she may help me.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666199]USA 2, Iraq 0.

Suck it Trebek.[/QUOTE]Yes I forgot war on PlayStation, it was impressive to see like sitting on rockets, but on the field, in Vietnam or Afghanistan, much more difficult. Biden needs war for his in trouble economy, but Putin is stronger than him, not only being in warm in office for whole life. When didn't for Moldavia, but I think EU can help Ukraine. Complicated when part of Dombass want to be Russian and not Ukrainian.

13 Feb: EA, you have no clue to go to this club now, it's a bad time to visit.

18 Feb: How can the club be great with bad casting.

21 Feb: OMG best casting ever.

LOL.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2666009]As far as refugees go, Poland has already stated they are willing to accommodate Ukrainians.[/QUOTE]I've got room for 2 hot girls as well.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666010]Entries are not the culprit. They have not significantly changed recently. Private girls still have to pay for their hotel rooms or apartments, offsetting entry prices, not to mention the incidence of robbery and other worse crimes the girls endured when working privately. At least 3 girls last year told me that they would not go back to the privates after recounting multiple traumatic events.[/QUOTE]Sure it's not the same everywhere, but you don't know a single bit regarding the Romanian and Bulgarian business models in Europe. That much is clear.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666090]I hate Putin but have to admit he is clever when declaring Dombass independent, what they waited when they want to be Russian and not Ukrainian, so they will join Russia welcoming them. Nerves war and he is expert for this. Sad for Ukraine already so poor. Maybe they should let Dombass which mostly don't feel Ukrainian and join EU, when Putin just doesn't care about papy Biden, Macron and bald German. After Crimea, Putin wants black sea. Biden wanted to play strong to hide covid lost war for US, but he can't compete with Putin. He shouldn't forget US lost all wars since 1945 , even wars usually make US rich, when lives have not much value.[/QUOTE]You do know that about 60% of Donbass is still controlled by Ukraine right? The Russian backed area does include the 3 largest cities, but is still maybe only 40% of the area, and Donbass do have more Ukrainians than Russians. It's an area with over 6 million people. And now Russia wants to take over the remainder of Donbass? Full of trenches. That by itself will get extremely bloody.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2666219]Come on man, it's all good. Kamala Harris was in Europe to make diplomacy work in the Russia-Ukraine conflict. She's the best for this, don't you know? LOL.

[URL]https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/02/19/curley-dont-worry-ukraine-border-czar-kamala-harris-is-on-the-case/[/URL][/QUOTE]But they had to do massive response to Miss Marvel. So I'm not sure it counts:

[URL]https://insidethemagic.net/2022/01/ms-marvel-controversy-series-delay-reshoot-ct1/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666252]Yes I forgot war on PlayStation, it was impressive to see like sitting on rockets, but on the field, in Vietnam or Afghanistan, much more difficult. Biden needs war for his in trouble economy, but Putin is stronger than him, not only being in warm in office for whole life. When didn't for Moldavia, but I think EU can help Ukraine. Complicated when part of Dombass want to be Russian and not Ukrainian.[/QUOTE]Well, when it's game over, it's game over. And then you reset the game.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2666366]But they had to do massive response to Miss Marvel. So I'm not sure it counts:

[URL]https://insidethemagic.net/2022/01/ms-marvel-controversy-series-delay-reshoot-ct1/[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL yup it's beyond funny how this US administration is. Followed closely by Germany and France.

Looking at the all around shit-show going on now, more and more I think Trump was the best POTUS in last 20 or even 30 years for not just USA but also for the World! He definitely got inside many peoples' skin with the mean tweets (some of which even I don't agree with), but in the more important areas from Economy to World Peace, he was the most balanced POTUS I have seen in my adult life. He kept Wall Street / main street / balance in check, as well as kept Russia / China / North Korea in check with his weird but effective diplomacy. He didn't know much about how to deal with Covid, but followed reasonable advices from the scientists and pushed for what's practical as opposed to being power hungry and curbing citizens' freedom. Also the only POTUS, like a true leader, didn't take a dime of tax payers' money given to him as salary, neither charging million dollars post-POTUS to speak at seminars like Obama and Clinton does.

Let's acknowledge the value of freedom to our FKK mongering life, and act accordingly. Amen!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2666362]Sure it's not the same everywhere, but you don't know a single bit regarding the Romanian and Bulgarian business models in Europe. That much is clear.[/QUOTE]Probably not as much as mr I have super secret access to privilege information despite having zero social awareness.

But cost is cost and shared resources are there regardless of entries, which have not increased for the girls. Hence not the reason for price increases. Simple logic.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2666365]You do know that about 60% of Donbass is still controlled by Ukraine right? The Russian backed area does include the 3 largest cities, but is still maybe only 40% of the area, and Donbass do have more Ukrainians than Russians. It's an area with over 6 million people. And now Russia wants to take over the remainder of Donbass? Full of trenches. That by itself will get extremely bloody.[/QUOTE]I hate Putin for what he was and remains, but he played good chess attracting many Donbass who feel Russian. Yes, not all Donbass, but Donetsk is the most important. He already did with part of Moldavia and Crimea. He is strong for nerves war. I think he dreams to rebuild CCCP, reminding him when he was young at KGB.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2666254]13 Feb: EA, you have no clue to go to this club now, it's a bad time to visit.

18 Feb: How can the club be great with bad casting.

21 Feb: OMG best casting ever..[/QUOTE]Your eternal problem is you tell about what you don't know, same than on bicycle. When they told 6 was better before, I don't agree when better casting since 2021 than before covid, when some girls moved to 6 when their club was closed. Escape / Takedown / Mursenary found average casting, I found interesting casting on a Saturday when I think as a great professional he visited on low casting days and girls are just returning now like Valentina and Ramona, you know them? Same, he managed to get CBJ, when I never experienced at 6. We don't all experience same, but how many times did you visit 6 and Sharks to know? When not only Globe.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2665358]Did she send you to fuck with Bilbo? I am actually quite well aware of The Lord of the Rings. But sorry to enlighten you with yet another fact of the day, however the stalker is named Gollum. Maybe it was him you fantasized about during the act?[/QUOTE]When obsession since 2013 turned to delirium for a nobody about weekly first choice as long I wanted.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666252]Yes I forgot war on PlayStation, it was impressive to see like sitting on rockets, but on the field, in Vietnam or Afghanistan, much more difficult. Biden needs war for his in trouble economy, but Putin is stronger than him, not only being in warm in office for whole life. When didn't for Moldavia, but I think EU can help Ukraine. Complicated when part of Dombass want to be Russian and not Ukrainian.[/QUOTE]So Iraq was a "PlayStation war" not fought in the field but Afghanistan, a war fought by special forces and drones, was not. Hmmm.

And again tell me how the French fared against Vietnam again?

You using the same logic that criticized going to cheap clubs which you found yourself at the very same clubs weeks before and weeks after I went? So strange. Your logic is compromised by your own illogical emotions.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2666366]But they had to do massive response to Miss Marvel. So I'm not sure it counts:

[URL]https://insidethemagic.net/2022/01/ms-marvel-controversy-series-delay-reshoot-ct1/[/URL][/QUOTE]Not response. Reshoots. Autocorrect is my biggest enemy sometimes.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666467]Probably not as much as mr I have super secret access to privilege information despite having zero social awareness.

But cost is cost and shared resources are there regardless of entries, which have not increased for the girls. Hence not the reason for price increases. Simple logic.[/QUOTE]I know you are simple. But the real world is not so much so.

When the average number of customers and their expenditures fall, their percentage of income spent on entry fees rise.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666488]When obsession since 2013 turned to delirium for a nobody about weekly first choice as long I wanted.[/QUOTE]He knows that Escape Artist is our Gollum (hence the name), so he is just rewriting the narrative.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2666579]I know you are simple. But the real world is not so much so.

When the average number of customers and their expenditures fall, their percentage of income spent on entry fees rise.[/QUOTE]Euphemistically speaking, the English used here is logically unclear at best. Simply putting it, it's more likely the English used here is represented by a dog licking its own asshole.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2665520]Did I ever ask you money for my life? When I save from no escorts and when I love so much to speed drive. Yesterday when I woke up at 6 am, I had to resist so much at 6 NL just on border, when Germany called me. What do you think I did at closing 1 am under rain and in strong wind, really needing 2 hands, fighting with bad electronics quattro, sweating more than when I climb Zoncolan under 35 degrees. Hessen won't be for you, no rules there, like at Cleo. You have to be able to get from girls. You can't go to complain on desk like at Globe or Bruggen or LR, but make the game more interesting for ability to get. I never told full of models, but some girls at Sharks are prettier than now Globe girls, Beatrice Sharks now Natalia Globe was not one of the prettiest for me, when my best, most elegant and interesting for woman in bed was always for 100/60 for our 7 rooms on 2021. I wish at least You noticed the fall for girls quality at Globe when still same expensive, reason why from more than 10 visits per year and even not far on 2020 , but only 2 on 2021 , when Globe is now behind Cleo for me, less interesting for girls, and far behind Sharks or even 6 where I couldn't miss 178 bare feet on the floor supermodel with curvy ass new Mira. Ro who turned so passionate in bed under my taking care of her, passionate kisser coming to kiss again and again, drinking seminal liquid because she excited me with her becoming hard nipples on DATY, but not using paper, but putting all in her mouth and in DT and coming to really deeply kiss me. You don't find anymore this freshness at Globe. Of course, no silicon and no tattoo, fresh full natural. Yes, at Globe you don't see really uglies when Sylvana at Sharks, but except Sofia and Adriana for her freshness, not many real beauties. If you put Miss Sharks with light make up on pole podium, it would be riot at Globe. And she was so fresh in bed when she arrived from a German private. Unfortunately, she lost her freshness for sex even I know she tried her best to please me, reason why I had 12 rooms with her in about 3 months, twice on day at start when she was wow fresh. For only 100 or 150/60. Why to pay more expensive for lower quality and not only about girls but club, rooms. With money saved, I can pay gas and tires. Unfortunately, when I fought so much for on 2014/2015 to work as independent for my ex company and business relations, but after 2 years, covid stole my free time, because in France now, most of companies miss high efficient experts to make money, when I never claimed in FKK but I m paid for in my job and median Zurich salary 8000 CHF? Never impressed me, to solve what others are not able to, and are afraid we go to others, so I won't have anymore for a while same freedom, but I should not need to ask you money for all my leisure and kilometers and I m fully sure I won't need money when I will die. Level of studies, higher level than medical in France for me, and your own potential usually make your life, as parents tell children, and I can only thanks mine for all what they gave me. Interesting to feel all claimed business men potential in brothels, just laughable, when I never told to any WG, when many ask me if I'm doctor, from my knowledge of women body, but I learned with my girlfriends with who You learn much more than with prostitutes. Yesterday when I arrived early at 6 , after big breakfast for sporty, had a long warm jacuzzi, usually I don't like, but a 24 yo and not bad looking except hair style NL came with me after his sauna. It was his first time in brothels, he loved foods and wellness, quite good at 6. I took very long time to explain him he was wasting his time and money when he makes less than 2000 per month, he should better find sex friend when he doesn't want girlfriend from NL women expectations and nothing about money, when it would suit me. When he could find Erika or Mira or Bulgarian claimed Aicha or Lizzi or Ramona or even Emma, he wasted 100 with 2 not pretty in kino. When we chat before he left very early, I wonder if he not did, just to feel it was waste of money, when maybe he was not sure to control with a beauty. I wish him to stay away, as I told him, when I think waste of time and money for those who can find prettier and much more clever outside and for more real, but I would feel uncomfortable with a girlfriend looking like my daughter. These clubs are to feel young, like my sports, when tasting freshness, kind of jouvence fountain but money spent, but I prefer than in casino.[/QUOTE]Please tell me this is conceptual art.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666505]So Iraq was a "PlayStation war" not fought in the field but Afghanistan, a war fought by special forces and drones, was not. Hmmm.

And again tell me how the French fared against Vietnam again?

You using the same logic that criticized going to cheap clubs which you found yourself at the very same clubs weeks before and weeks after I went? So strange. Your logic is compromised by your own illogical emotions.[/QUOTE]My mistake for Irak when I remember impressive images of rockets going to shoot, but I agree also in desert. My meaning was when Biden seems to need war and I didn't think he is like Trump, but he should remember all defeats and mercenary Putin is stronger than him. Ukraine just need EU protection but can t help Donetsk who feel Russian to join Putin. About clubs, there are RTC, cheap clubs like Gold or Velbert where I had and still great girls, Bab, 6, Finca and World which officially increased rate, known upselling like Oase or Palace, other clubs, and Sharks where no rules and girls don t ask same to all of us, but when I love my 40 yo woman for 80/60 and I could pay more expensive for her, I think new rates spreading at Sharks and validated by Germans when they had painful balls under lockdown, may attract some beauties like on 2021 and I prefer to pay 150/60 for beauties than 100/60 for average looks or than 260/60 at Globe when no Miss Sharks look at Globe. I didn't learn grocery at school, I think my parents fed me with quality I m used to. I prefer less, but quality, rather than quantity of average. Normal for me a Vanquish which is a masterpiece worth more expensive than a VW polo I saw ponytail Globe boss driving on last Summer when I saw him before with Lamborghini. But each one can choose what to spend. On Saturday, when 24 yo NL told me he made less than 2000 € per month, I told him: find a girl outside, stay away, You will be broke. Maybe why he chose 2 very average in kino, rather than a beauty, maybe not to feel need to return when he doesn't have money to be a regular, when I remember July 2014 with 14 1 hour meetings with Amour Russe escorts on week days after job and my week ends at Oase or World, for more than 2 months salary for him, when I manage with money I make, I don t racket like Swiss administration, and won t need anymore when I will be dead.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666605]Euphemistically speaking, the English used here is logically unclear at best. Simply putting it, it's more likely the English used here is represented by a dog licking its own asshole.[/QUOTE]I would also place you below a dogs asshole on the food chain. As well as on the intelligence ladder.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2666848]I would also place you below a dogs asshole on the food chain. As well as on the intelligence ladder.[/QUOTE]You put a dog's asshole on the food chain? Weird.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666951]You put a dog's asshole on the food chain? Weird.[/QUOTE]That's because he swallows the food with his ass.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666951]You put a dog's asshole on the food chain? Weird.[/QUOTE]Ever hear of bugs who feast of feces? Like the dirt beetle?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2667139]Ever hear of bugs who feast of feces? Like the dirt beetle?[/QUOTE]There are dung beetles.

Never heard of anything that eat dog assholes. "Eating ass", gross.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666252]Yes Biden needs war for his in trouble economy, but Putin is stronger than him, not only being in warm in office for whole life. When didn't for Moldavia, but I think EU can help Ukraine. Complicated when part of Dombass want to be Russian and not Ukrainian.[/QUOTE]Putin was clever to wait for after Olympics, but when he and Russians are proud and love sports, I wish sports will treat them isolating them like peste disease, and support Ukraine when complex Donbass is not Kiev nor Odessa.

About 36 million Germans don't have the booster jab.

The completely clean control group is still huge with about 20 million people. (including about 4 million children under 5 yo).

But the health care system still need protection!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2667220]There are dung beetles.

Never heard of anything that eat dog assholes. "Eating ass", gross.[/QUOTE]I know you are just trying to hide your vulgar sides. It doesn't matter who hears about it.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2667098]That's because he swallows the food with his ass.[/QUOTE]Right, we all know this is how you do it:

[URL]https://youtu.be/eyAi7EJvXlE[/URL] (from 1:23) (continues in part 3/9).

And that is how we see all that crap from you here on the forum.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2667649]I know you are just trying to hide your vulgar sides. It doesn't matter who hears about it.[/QUOTE]Apparently the wordplay ability of this one stops at the lowly pun.

May have many free Ukrainian women, when guys from 18 to 60 are asked to fight versus Tsar Putin who smells bad Ukrainian deaths. Maybe he should remember about Lenine after Nicolaî 2.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2667653]And that is how we see all that crap from you here on the forum.[/QUOTE]You hear different voices in your head again?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2667501]Putin was clever to wait for after Olympics, but when he and Russians are proud and love sports, I wish sports will treat them isolating them like peste disease, and support Ukraine when complex Donbass is not Kiev nor Odessa.[/QUOTE]Shame on China supporting dirty tsar smelling blood Putin who may be frustrated his sputnik V was not a success, even in Russia. We should isolate China like Russia, when China is lies, low quality and pollution, a danger for EU.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2667849]You hear different voices in your head again?[/QUOTE]Indeed I do. When two different people talk, I hear two different voices.

Do you only hear one voice in such a situation? And if so, which ones voice do you hear?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2667696]Apparently the wordplay ability of this one stops at the lowly pun.[/QUOTE]It is good how you feel like you need to point it out every time you try to be funny. I usually laugh the moment someone say 'I am trying to be funny'.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2668030]Indeed I do. When two different people talk, I hear two different voices.

Do you only hear one voice in such a situation? And if so, which ones voice do you hear?[/QUOTE]Considering all of the self declarations of great insight, privileged knowledge, and intelligence, the consistent inability to formulate a response that suggests we're speaking with someone capable of comedic wit, having pertinent social standing, or much less elite intelligence is profoundly yet dependably underwhelming.

Escape Artist, BigB, PiZ:

I found a solution to your problems. They are a bunch of products launched by this New Zealand company Schaeffers.

[URL]https://youtu.be/tbazGVrbN-g[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2668175]Escape Artist, BigB, PiZ:

I found a solution to your problems. They are a bunch of products launched by this New Zealand company Schaeffers.

[URL]https://youtu.be/tbazGVrbN-g[/URL][/QUOTE]Found a solution to yours.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666907]But everybody should be able to think with own brain, not only following the sheeps.[/QUOTE]This has to be the dumbest post of them all. The whole point of this forum is to gather information about hookers based on other people's reports. Only this doofus tries to stroke his own ego with this some prideful ego shit.

Another person writes a review, reader takes that information and makes use of it. That's how hooker forums work. Moron.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2668210]Found a solution to yours.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Can you exemplify how to do that in a video for us?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2668499]Interesting. Can you exemplify how to do that in a video for us?[/QUOTE]As predicted, consistently underwhelming.

Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.

[QUOTE=AMonger123;2668818]Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sharks is not at best right now.

One can't help but think that the conflict in Ukraine would have been quickly squashed l if the NATO Secretary General wasn't a Norwegian who loves getting reach-arounds from Putin from far across the peninsula.

[QUOTE=AMonger123;2668818]Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.[/QUOTE]For now, Germany and Sharks would be easy as long as you're double vaxxed. Test at door if not boostered. Might get even easier in the coming weeks as nations are dropping restrictions.

Austria and Switzerland might be even easier. By this weekend, no vaccination restrictions for visitors in Austria, just negative test.

Various people will have their opinions regarding the best place to visit. Without knowing your specific tastes, simple statistics say the biggest line up will give a better chance of finding a girl for your tastes. The biggest line up at the moment is Sharks. Please don't grossly overpay as girls are pushing increased prices. If paying a higher rate, at least get an extra like cum in mouth / face or anal.

Omicron's pretty much over. Final surge, unimpressive even with the entire western hemisphere basically wide open through it.

FKK land never saw much of it.

I was right. Sirioja was wrong. Boom. Suck it Baby Trebek.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2669042]Omicron's pretty much over. Final surge, unimpressive even with the entire western hemisphere basically wide open through it.

FKK land never saw much of it.

I was right. Sirioja was wrong. Boom. Suck it Baby Trebek.[/QUOTE]Yes, Hong Kong is now under Omicron. Nearly 1 million deaths in US from covid, 100000 under Omicron on 2022, reason why Biden needs war, to make forget. So right, like for vaccine stopping spreading.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2668431]This has to be the dumbest post of them all. The whole point of this forum is to gather information about hookers based on other people's reports. Only this doofus tries to stroke his own ego with this some prideful ego shit.

Another person writes a review, reader takes that information and makes use of it. That's how hooker forums work. Moron.[/QUOTE]I was never a good sheep, I so much prefer to make myself my own way without needing guys like you.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2668951]One can't help but think that the conflict in Ukraine would have been quickly squashed l if the NATO Secretary General wasn't a Norwegian who loves getting reach-arounds from Putin from far across the peninsula.[/QUOTE]I heard Schaeffers just came out with a new product now:

Schaeffers Thai Style Caulk.

Please let us know how you would fix those diplomatic holes with your ginormous brain!

But we all know you would only try to fuck up Europe even more by starting a nuclear war.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2669042]Omicron's pretty much over. Final surge, unimpressive even with the entire western hemisphere basically wide open through it.

FKK land never saw much of it.

I was right. Sirioja was wrong. Boom. Suck it Baby Trebek.[/QUOTE]I've got omicron as we speak, and to me it sucks even more than delta did, since I got it at a colder month. Delta was just weak. Omicron is just that much more annoying. Only thing that sucked with delta was how it influenced sex and gym afterwards for weeks. Hope omicron doesn't have that.

Today's free geography lesson: Hong Kong is not in the western hemisphere. You are welcome.

As for the "geopolitical" statements, they are just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2668951]One can't help but think that the conflict in Ukraine would have been quickly squashed l if the NATO Secretary General wasn't a Norwegian who loves getting reach-arounds from Putin from far across the peninsula.[/QUOTE]I don't think the NATO secretary general has much more than a symbolic role. NATO is 95% USA.

Oh yeah, the Thai Style Caulk from Schaeffers is in case you have only a tiny hole in your deck.

The idiot microbrains who think the war in Ukraine would be over with a much more rough approach towards Moscow have no idea what they are discussing. Financially is the only thing we can do, and some mild equipment deliveries.

Here is the issue:

Russia don't want to annihilate entire populations in Ukraine. But they can if they need to. Their army is essentially an artillery army, and can lay waste to cities in a pile of rubble in an instant if they have to or are forced to. Grozny, the Chechen capital had over 200 k people. After the Russian artillery was done with it, only 10 k was left alive. And since then the Russian artillery capabilities has only improved, with new weapons, new artillery and new systems. Making it even deadlier. They would even have crushed through the US army easily if there ever was a situation where the superior US airforce was not involved, or where US long range tactical cruiser missiles weren't being used.

The problem now is that it seems like people are thinking the Ukrainian defence is working. It is only working against a soft Russian push to avoid civilian casualties. But they have 26 km of artillery and tanks lined up north of Kiev. The Russian army has barely fired it's first shot so far. They only picked on the Ukrainian cities with toothpicks as of yet.

Any smart leader would leave the Russians with a way out of the situation. No matter how miscalculated it was from the Russians to begin with. Something that wouldn't take away all their pride. Because if you surround a bear from all sides armed with the heaviest artillery and nuclear arsenal in the history of the world, the bear attacks. That's a natural law.

When I am reading Zelensky demands Crimea back as a determinant if Russia leaves, I am starting to wonder if he wants to kill millions of his own people. Just like a certain non European Thai person here on the forum. Total stupidity on Putin level!

Here is some of the most recently developed Russian artillery which has been seen en masse in Ukraine on the road. Though not being used at all so far.

The TOS-1 MLRS:

[URL]https://youtu.be/xGYLgQk5xDo[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2669339]I was never a good sheep, I so much prefer to make myself my own way without needing guys like you.[/QUOTE]Then why are you on an FKK forum if not to exchange information about women in the clubs?

They know where Z. Is. He posts videos every day at the capital complex and the underground bunker in Kiev. They just need the bunker busting bumbs and to decimate the entire capital neighborhood. After telling all the civilians to get out ASAP. Although President Z. Essentially makes it impossible to kill "civilians" since he gives all civilians Molotov cocktails and government issued fully automatic AK 47's therefore making everyone a combatant. The quicker Z is eliminated the less death and destruction and the safter the world will be from risk of nuclear attacks. Russia needs a buffer zone, just like the Cuban missile crisis, it doesn't want a NATO state on its direct border.

Ukraine has no risk if it disarmed. It is not like Romania or Poland will invade. And a disarmed Ukraine will be a good buffer zone and prevent nuclear war. The "freedom" of people is not important when considering the rest of humanity. They need to stop complaining. Really nobody in the USA is free anyway.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2669510]Oh yeah, the Thai Style Caulk from Schaeffers is in case you have only a tiny hole in your deck.

The idiot microbrains who think the war in Ukraine would be over with a much more rough approach towards Moscow have no idea what they are discussing. Financially is the only thing we can do, and some mild equipment deliveries.

Here is the issue:

Russia don't want to annihilate entire populations in Ukraine. But they can if they need to. Their army is essentially an artillery army, and can lay waste to cities in a pile of rubble in an instant if they have to or are forced to. Grozny, the Chechen capital had over 200 k people. After the Russian artillery was done with it, only 10 k was left alive. And since then the Russian artillery capabilities has only improved, with new weapons, new artillery and new systems. Making it even deadlier. They would even have crushed through the US army easily if there ever was a situation where the superior US airforce was not involved, or where US long range tactical cruiser missiles weren't being used.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2669488]I don't think the NATO secretary general has much more than a symbolic role. NATO is 95% USA.[/QUOTE]Agree that USA calls the shots in NATO. Germany and France opposed the Iraq invasion, and ofc that went forward. Merkel also opposed Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO. From 2008 article:

[QUOTE]As Nato prepares to convene for its annual summit in Bucharest on Wednesday, [b]Angela Merkel’s government made clear that it would veto a US drive to allow both former Soviet republics to join[/b] the defence alliance’s membership action plan (Map).

As a result, Nato must now find a formula in its summit communiqué that does not embarrass Georgia and Ukraine but that also avoids angering Russia, which has made clear that it is opposed to Map being offered to the two states.

Ms Merkel had discussed her position with US President George W. Bush, but had not changed her stance in spite of his opposing view. “Mr Bush knows our position,” the spokesman said.

[b]Among the European Union’s larger member states, Germany has been most willing in recent years to take into account Russia’s security worries. German officials were sceptical on Monday about the US view that Nato membership for Georgia and Ukraine would help bring stability and added security to the region.[/b]

https://www.ft.com/content/ab8eb6a6-ff44-11dc-b556-000077b07658..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2669545]Then why are you on an FKK forum if not to exchange information about women in the clubs?[/QUOTE]Do you think I find my regulars here, or before on Youppie? When so many times I was disappointed by looks when was told about pretty girls and I don't care about not pretty. On last Saturday I met a ex Bruggen NL regular at Sharks visiting for Marta. When I don't plan to return to Sharks on next week end, I will see if his advice is good. At least, we had some same girls. But reading and writing English relax my mind. And I think I give information from real visits.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2669510]Financially is the only thing we can do, and some mild equipment deliveries.[/QUOTE]This unprecedented economic retaliation will hurt Russia and Putin. But the effects of that would be less "immediate". My hope is that this will de-escalate sooner.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2669369]I've got omicron as we speak, and to me it sucks even more than delta did, since I got it at a colder month. Delta was just weak. Omicron is just that much more annoying. Only thing that sucked with delta was how it influenced sex and gym afterwards for weeks. Hope omicron doesn't have that.[/QUOTE]Got the Rona myself recently and it really kicked my ass. But I will be back in fighting shape for FKK land by late spring. The more trip reports from fellow ice bears, the better. Eye on the prize.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669643]Russia needs a buffer zone, just like the Cuban missile crisis, it doesn't want a NATO state on its direct border.[/QUOTE]Yeah, poor Russia. Their neighbours always invading them. Lett's see. 1939 when Poland was already defeated by Nazi Germany, Russia invaded Poland, because what? Poland was a threat? Then Finland with all their might was threatening them, so they invaded Finland. Then Russia was under threat from those huge Baltic countries, so they invaded them as well. Then Romania was really threatening Russia, so they invaded half of Moldova. How about crushing Budapest in 1956, crushing Prague in 1968. Were Hungarians and Czechs armies close to Moscow?

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669643]Ukraine has no risk if it disarmed. It is not like Romania or Poland will invade. [/QUOTE]Disgusting. Of course Romania is not the threat. But Russia invaded them twice since 2014. Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669643] The "freedom" of people is not important when considering the rest of humanity. They need to stop complaining. Really nobody in the USA is free anyway.[/QUOTE]How about letting the Ukrainians decide about their future. You have no idea what it means to live in an authoritarian state. What freedom exactly are the people in the US missing?

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669643]They know where Z. Is. He posts videos every day at the capital complex and the underground bunker in Kiev. They just need the bunker busting bumbs and to decimate the entire capital neighborhood. After telling all the civilians to get out ASAP. Although President Z. Essentially makes it impossible to kill "civilians" since he gives all civilians Molotov cocktails and government issued fully automatic AK 47's therefore making everyone a combatant. The quicker Z is eliminated the less death and destruction and the safter the world will be from risk of nuclear attacks. Russia needs a buffer zone, just like the Cuban missile crisis, it doesn't want a NATO state on its direct border.

Ukraine has no risk if it disarmed. It is not like Romania or Poland will invade. And a disarmed Ukraine will be a good buffer zone and prevent nuclear war. The "freedom" of people is not important when considering the rest of humanity. They need to stop complaining. Really nobody in the USA is free anyway.[/QUOTE]Bad leaders from either side. I can't say I trust Z's motifs the way he argues and make demands. I rather trust the Klitchko brothers. Z really hide in a bunker? I have a female friend in Kiev who isn't even hiding at all. And Z is supposed to be the man? No, it's all propaganda. Vitaly Klitschko and his brother are the real leaders in the conflict.

When that is said, if someone in Moscow managed to take out Putin, that would potentially be even luckier for the rest of us. He is in so much deep shit at the moment due to no one daring to oppose him other than the brain molested Chechen leader, that there is no way of telling what he'll do. And god forbid if he starts to listen even more to that Chechen guy. Then we are all dead. He really want everyone to follow him to hell. And with Putin in such deep shit, he is mentally getting close to that point as well. At least one of those two needs to go. Bad influencer, or the insane leaders.

If this runs for 2 more weeks I bet nukes will be used. And that doesn't even have to land on Ukraine. Could land in USA for that matter.

I do admire the Ukrainians for fighting back though. Laying down their guns would be acts of cowardice. But they somehow has to give the Russians a diplomatic route back out. That's the difficult part. Especially since the calculations by Putin has been so off. He is losing so much face back home. It's like Poker, and he is already in too deep.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2669717]I do admire the Ukrainians for fighting back though. Laying down their guns would be acts of cowardice. But they somehow has to give the Russians a diplomatic route back out. That's the difficult part. Especially since the calculations by Putin has been so off. He is losing so much face back home. It's like Poker, and he is already in too deep.[/QUOTE]Oh no, don't go breaking old Vladimir's heart by resisting. You know you won't like it.

Maybe it's time for someone else in Russia to be in charge.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2669679]Yeah, poor Russia. Their neighbours always invading them. Lett's see. 1939 when Poland was already defeated by Nazi Germany, Russia invaded Poland, because what? Poland was a threat? Then Finland with all their might was threatening them, so they invaded Finland. Then Russia was under threat from those huge Baltic countries, so they invaded them as well. Then Romania was really threatening Russia, so they invaded half of Moldova. How about crushing Budapest in 1956, crushing Prague in 1968. Were Hungarians and Czechs armies close to Moscow?

Disgusting. Of course Romania is not the threat. But Russia invaded them twice since 2014. Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves.

How about letting the Ukrainians decide about their future. You have no idea what it means to live in an authoritarian state. What freedom exactly are the people in the US missing?[/QUOTE]The USA is an authoritarian state. For example, nobody in the USA can legally have the fully automatic AK 47's that are given out for free in the Ukraine. Those need an ATF tax stamp which costs thousands more than the gun itself and background check and are banned from production and importation. People in the USA are misssing sex freedom and there are more men than women in the USA there is a private prison system which people are imprisoned for profit. There are tons of AfroAmerican gangsters ready to rob and shoot you in the USA. Finally, the government of the USA can legally kill you through capital punishment unlike Russia which abolished capital punishment. Moreover the court system has ruled it doesn't care if you are actually innocent, all it needs is your defense attorney to fail to object or the prosecutor to fail to disclose exculpatory evidence and then you can be legally killed by the government or imprisoned your entire life. There are no homeless in Russia. They can all live in huge apartment complexes whereas tons of homeless in the USA.

This could be a plot by the climate change activists: so after the nuclear fallout Europe's latitude will be at -80 degrees see, the USA's latitude will be at -70 degrees see, and the Equator will be at -20 degrees see.

And it is just a matter of time before some Ukrainians sell some Javelin missles to Al Qaida, ISIS, or Palestinian terrorists and they are used to blow up tanks in Palestine. Then all the people in the USA government will see their mistakes.

The fact is the Russia is a nuclear superpower and the best person for stability is its current leader, any attempts to destabilize Russia will probably end up with a worse result and nuclear weapons not properly supervised. Also note that Russian nuclear doctrine allows tactical nuclear weapons if its state is threatened by conventional warfare, and likely a tactical nuclear strike could be authorized by Russia against non nuclear countries such as Poland on the bet that NATO will not retaliate with nuclear weapons. Russia will not send missles to the UK or France since it knows a direct retaliation will occur. Poland gave Ukraine 30 fighter jets and will allow its airspace and runways to be used and this is very, very dangerous.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2669724]Oh no, don't go breaking old Vladimir's heart by resisting. You know you won't like it.

Maybe it's time for someone else in Russia to be in charge.[/QUOTE]Oh most definitely that would be the best outcome.

DrPoon: it is quite the statement to say that only the Putin regime can handle protecting their nuclear arsenal. That is wishful thinking. When that is said, I think Russia should be more concerned about China 20 years from now than Nato.

Dr. Poon: you do have a great point in regards to anti sex laws. And its a side effect of USA turning soft. The US ground forces being almost non existential. And even if they still have lots of ground forces, they won't see much deployment because of feminists at home who are scared to find their sons in bodybags.

Just like the weak Swedish who were weak during 2 ww when they didn't stand up to nazi Germany and tried to be neutral. And now evenly weak as they yet again are holding the most neutral stance in all of Europe. What a pussy country run by the biggest feminazies in the world, where anti-sex is law, and where all the local women get sexually aroused by foreign invading men: The Stockholm Syndrome.

And that can be seen reflected in their defence policy.

Sodoma and Gomorra might just happen again.

You should stop watching Russia today.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669760]The USA is an authoritarian state. For example, nobody in the USA can legally have the fully automatic AK 47's that are given out for free in the Ukraine. Those need an ATF tax stamp which costs thousands more than the gun itself and background check and are banned from production and importation. People in the USA are misssing sex freedom and there are more men than women in the USA there is a private prison system which people are imprisoned for profit. There are tons of AfroAmerican gangsters ready to rob and shoot you in the USA. Finally, the government of the USA can legally kill you through capital punishment unlike Russia which abolished capital punishment. Moreover the court system has ruled it doesn't care if you are actually innocent, all it needs is your defense attorney to fail to object or the prosecutor to fail to disclose exculpatory evidence and then you can be legally killed by the government or imprisoned your entire life. There are no homeless in Russia. They can all live in huge apartment complexes whereas tons of homeless in the USA..[/QUOTE]Why to have weapon war or even a gun? Do You plan to find courage to help Ukrainians? On some of my jobs missions, I was under our CRS army protection, but when I finished to close for drugs traffic dealers in early morning, when I informed them to leave before, CRS left, but I didn't because I had more to do and they knew my RS500 on parking, when was only one. Only 10 yo little boys showed me their gun in school bag and I told them: your present for Christmas? Sometimes in FKK at 5 am, I m the only one not Balkanian when some drunk among them and even on parking, I never felt to need.

When I love Russia and learned Russian, my parents thinking I was crazy or communist when it was when the wall, but even he gave them pride again, but Putin is a shame and not only about Ukraine, but killing journalists or other free minds. Unfortunately, Russian population is not open minded, when would be time to inform them about reality, then he could have same end than Ceaucescu when he is kind of twin. All hackers have to inform Russians, their new Tsar is so dirty and smelling bad from blood, lying to them since so many years, when they could have much better life if they got rid of him, crazy paranoiac. Fortunately, not anymore crazy golfer on the other side, to play with red button. I can only support poor Ukrainians when I much prefer Russia for the country.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2669907]You should stop watching Russia today.[/QUOTE]I only follow independant Telegram groups. Any news channel is biassed. In this situation especially the Russians ofcourse considering how Putin is in a deep commucation shithole where his own people would revolt if they got enough neutral information.

But what would you do with a madman who has tons of nukes ready? And who knows he fucked up royally without a sane way of retreat that would save face at home? It's all poker. And a bit of chess. Would be ridiculous if he got some of these 'brilliant' ideas from Karjakin or some of the other chess players on his strategy group though.

You probably didn't respond to me here. I don't know. You never were good at anything comming out of your mouth.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669760]This could be a plot by the climate change activists: so after the nuclear fallout Europe's latitude will be at -80 degrees see, the USA's latitude will be at -70 degrees see, and the Equator will be at -20 degrees see.[/QUOTE]Quick, somebody should take the nukes away from Greta Thunberg. Your post is very high up in the list of insane posts.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2669760]The USA is an authoritarian state. For example, nobody in the USA can legally have the fully automatic AK 47's that are given out for free in the Ukraine. Those need an ATF tax stamp which costs thousands more than the gun itself and background check and are banned from production and importation. [/QUOTE]Ah, if only you would try to inform yourself. In Russia you can get a firearm license only after passing gun safety classes, a federal test and a background check. The first five years you are limited to guns with low muzzle energy (smooth bore firearms or pneumatic weapons). Full auto guns and magazines with capacity of more than 10 are prohibited. So much freedom in Russia.

Would you be satisfied with a AK with full auto capabilities? Why stop there? Why not a machine gun like an MG 3? Heck why not a 50 cal BMG?

That's 'coming' and 'GommoraH' maybe sometimes 'GommorHa' now I answer you.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2670164]That's 'coming' and 'GommoraH' maybe sometimes 'GommorHa' now I answer you.[/QUOTE]You are as intelligent as a goldfish, and as slim as jabba the Hut. Anything else you wanted to state? Oh, you need to spend 10 hours googling first?

Plenty of language where it's written as Gomorra. Including my own, French, German, Italian. Etc I got lazy at googling for more. Only one I found with H in it was English. So who cares?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2670144]I only follow independant Telegram groups. Any news channel is biassed. In this situation especially the Russians ofcourse considering how Putin is in a deep commucation shithole where his own people would revolt if they got enough neutral information.

But what would you do with a madman who has tons of nukes ready? And who knows he fucked up royally without a sane way of retreat that would save face at home? It's all poker. And a bit of chess. Would be ridiculous if he got some of these 'brilliant' ideas from Karjakin or some of the other chess players on his strategy group though.

You probably didn't respond to me here. I don't know. You never were good at anything comming out of your mouth.[/QUOTE]When our world have to get rid of dangerous crazy paranoiac megaloman dirty smelling blood Putin, I always told Russians I met who he is when he saw falling his world with the wall, only Russian population can get rid of him, like did Romanians with Ceaucescu. When they are not open minded, but now with cyber war which is more efficient than weapons, world have to send the truth to Russians, even Donbass is very complex with many who want to be Russian, but Odessa, Kviv, Georgia, Moldavia don t want to be Russian. I wish Klischko will be able to save Kiev, when Putin claims to love sport, but the world except China decided to isolate him and Russians when he dirty them. Ukrainians are example for courage.

I forgot: it's 'biaSed'. You had more time to pass the exams because of your dyslexia?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2670251]Plenty of language where it's written as Gomorra. Including my own, French, German, Italian. Etc I got lazy at googling for more. Only one I found with H in it was English. So who cares?[/QUOTE]Once again you're wrong. In French it's 'Gomorrhe'. Do you check what you write from time to time?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2670144]...... In this situation especially the Russians ofcourse considering how Putin is in a deep commucation shithole where his own people would revolt if they got enough neutral information......[/QUOTE]What is causing people to think that Putin is acting on his own? He has huge support in Russia for Russia's incursion into Ukraine.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2669653]Agree that USA calls the shots in NATO. Germany and France opposed the Iraq invasion, and ofc that went forward. Merkel also opposed Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO. From 2008 article:[/QUOTE]Why do I get the feeling that's no longer the case? After 4 years of Trump pulling away and Biden not really doing anything to undo the Trump stance, it feels more like France and UK have stepped into leadership roles. Still, dumb Nord.

Vladimir P. Is giving his soldiers $40,000 USD equivalent to any injured soldier. So this seems to be a much better deal than the Ukrainian rates of zero dollars.

Probably some of them will be going to FKK to use their winnings.

Comrade P indicates that the Ukrainians are nationalist neo Nazis and that everything is going as planned. And that Ukraine was created and part of Russia since the Soviet era and Ukrainians and Russians are the same people.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2670451]Once again you're wrong. In French it's 'Gomorrhe'. Do you check what you write from time to time?[/QUOTE]Reverse context tells me in French Gomorra is being used 4/9 times. Gomorre is used 1/9 times and Gomorrhe used 4/9 times. So the majority is not using any h.

We all know French is irrelevant anyway. But in Spanish it's Gomorra again.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2670458]What is causing people to think that Putin is acting on his own? He has huge support in Russia for Russia's incursion into Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Not huge support, but his lies and fake news on Russian medias he controls. In France, we now catch his friends boats or houses. When crazy dirty dictator knows he lost the war when he may get Ukraine land but never Ukrainians who hate him to kill their children, the world have now to isolate and put Russians in starvation, to force them to open their blind eyes and to riot and cut his head, when Russians would have much better life without their hands full of blood dictator. He is a shameful ready for anything, even exploding nuclear factory, but just a loser with his army with rockets which don't explode or missing gas for vehicles or guys who don't know what they come for in Ukraine. A shame for wonderful Russia.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2670458]What is causing people to think that Putin is acting on his own? He has huge support in Russia for Russia's incursion into Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Quoting me there doesn't make much sense. I already mentioned he is using some chess players in a think tank. And he got mad at some of these Russian think tank people who fucked up. But he does have the final word.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2670458]What is causing people to think that Putin is acting on his own? He has huge support in Russia for Russia's incursion into Ukraine.[/QUOTE]But its not the people. It's never the people. Wars are always due to small elites on both sides. Some of whom are responsible for propaganda issues etc.

1.2 million women have been reported to have fled Ukraine. Three years are given to live in the EU so hopefully some will make their way to Deutschland.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2670531]Vladimir P. Is giving his soldiers $40,000 USD equivalent to any injured soldier. So this seems to be a much better deal than the Ukrainian rates of zero dollars.

Probably some of them will be going to FKK to use their winnings.

Comrade P indicates that the Ukrainians are nationalist neo Nazis and that everything is going as planned. And that Ukraine was created and part of Russia since the Soviet era and Ukrainians and Russians are the same people.[/QUOTE]I heard Russian speaking guys in FKK, I remember at World on end of July 2014. Ukraine like Georgia, Crimea were in USSR and crazy dirty dictator wants again. He was instructed by KGB behind the wall. Many Russians and Ukrainians are married and have children. Ukrainians now hate Putin, his loss.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2670627]1.2 million women have been reported to have fled Ukraine. Three years are given to live in the EU so hopefully some will make their way to Deutschland.[/QUOTE]Actually that's one million of refugees, and among them there are many children. Like Pistons, you have some understanding problems?

Source: [URL]https://media.unhcr.org/Share/4eu0s436c42f6u8qx041t5bxpf1nsq40?FR_=1&W=1536&H=711[/URL]#_ga=2. 262793356.142543770. 1646468244-1035245772.1646468244.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2670538]Reverse context tells me in French Gomorra is being used 4/9 times. Gomorre is used 1/9 times and Gomorrhe used 4/9 times. So the majority is not using any h.[/QUOTE]Larousse (famous French dictionary) :

[URL]https://www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/ville/Sodome/144672[/URL]

Marcel Proust and Jean Giraudoux (famous french writers) :

[URL]https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodome_et_Gomorrhe_[/URL](Proust).

[URL]https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodome_et_Gomorrhe_[/URL](Giraudoux).

They all think otherwise.

Once again, like 99 % of the serial posters here, you're spewing bullshits and constantly embarrassing yourself.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2670543]Not huge support, but his lies and fake news on Russian medias he controls. In France, we now catch his friends boats or houses. When crazy dirty dictator knows he lost the war when he may get Ukraine land but never Ukrainians who hate him to kill their children, the world have now to isolate and put Russians in starvation, to force them to open their blind eyes and to riot and cut his head, when Russians would have much better life without their hands full of blood dictator. He is a shameful ready for anything, even exploding nuclear factory, but just a loser with his army with rockets which don't explode or missing gas for vehicles or guys who don't know what they come for in Ukraine. A shame for wonderful Russia.[/QUOTE]France should put Ukrainian refugees in Putin friends caught houses or boats.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2670627]1.2 million women have been reported to have fled Ukraine. Three years are given to live in the EU so hopefully some will make their way to Deutschland.[/QUOTE]Women leave their country they love, just to protect their children. Without children don t leave but will make war with men. Ukrainians courage is also to protect Baltics, Poland, Romania, Moldavia, and even Germany who are so weak. If Ukraine fall, then the crazy dictator will keep on to rebuild the wall he was instructed behind. When this is not Russians war but only his own, when we learn in mathematics each problem have at least one solution, just have to be able to find, when dirty crazy tsar dictator is a danger for our world, we have to inform Russians about war killing their brothers when they only hear lies, about possible better life with much more freedom and help them to kill him. Wish isolation, losing their job when France is big employer in Russia, losing money, will make them think and react for revolution getting rid of their crazy. If they are not able, then bigger danger than covid.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2670521]Why do I get the feeling that's no longer the case? After 4 years of Trump pulling away and Biden not really doing anything to undo the Trump stance, it feels more like France and UK have stepped into leadership roles. Still, dumb Nord.[/QUOTE]Trump concentrated on fighting China, Biden is focused on fighting Russia.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2670731]Women leave their country they love, just to protect their children. Without children don t leave but will make war with men. Ukrainians courage is also to protect Baltics, Poland, Romania, Moldavia, and even Germany who are so weak. If Ukraine fall, then the crazy dictator will keep on to rebuild the wall he was instructed behind. When this is not Russians war but only his own, when we learn in mathematics each problem have at least one solution, just have to be able to find, when dirty crazy tsar dictator is a danger for our world, we have to inform Russians about war killing their brothers when they only hear lies, about possible better life with much more freedom and help them to kill him. Wish isolation, losing their job when France is big employer in Russia, losing money, will make them think and react for revolution getting rid of their crazy. If they are not able, then bigger danger than covid.[/QUOTE]In the USA Civil War the Southern part of the USA tried to become independent similar to Ukraine tried to be independent and the Northern Union USA killed all the fighters in the Southern USA in order to keep the USA united. So the civil war that the USA opposes in Ukraine is nothing that the USA hasn't engaged in previously.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2670701]Once again, like 99 % of the serial posters here, you're spewing bullshits and constantly embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE]If I was you, I would hang myself. Reverse context looks at the French bible.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2670769]Trump concentrated on fighting China, Biden is focused on fighting Russia.[/QUOTE]Sleepy Joe has been paid more by China than any other donation or salary.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2670646]I heard Russian speaking guys in FKK, I remember at World on end of July 2014. Ukraine like Georgia, Crimea were in USSR and crazy dirty dictator wants again. He was instructed by KGB behind the wall. Many Russians and Ukrainians are married and have children. Ukrainians now hate Putin, his loss.[/QUOTE]Again Russian speaking guys on last night in deep Rhur.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2670906]If I was you, I would hang myself. Reverse context looks at the French bible.[/QUOTE]1 - People with enough education write 'If I were you'.

2 - Here are different translations of the Bible in French:

[URL]https://lire.la-bible.net/lecture/genese/19/1[/URL] (you can try all the little buttons except the two last ones because it's an English or a Spanish translation).

[URL]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genese[/URL]+19%3 A1&version=SG21 (use the 4 French translations of course).

It's always 'Gomorrhe', in 11 cases. Care to give us the source of your discovery?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2670769]Trump concentrated on fighting China, Biden is focused on fighting Russia.[/QUOTE]When war would help US economy, but on this time, better they stay far.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2671266]When war would help US economy, but on this time, better they stay far.[/QUOTE]Financially there is no way the USA can handle a new war. The debt was out of control which lead to stopping the Afghanistan 20 year war and it was cheaper to leave stuff behind than to take it and the USA is struggling to fund Medicare which has tons of old people balooning up, which is why China virus / Covid helps due to killing old people at a minimum medical costs which saves money for Medicare and retirement payments. Moreover, cities across the USA and counties are going bankrupt funding their retirement systems as well.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2670403]I forgot: it's 'biaSed'. You had more time to pass the exams because of your dyslexia?[/QUOTE]Your "life" must be really pathetic and boring.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2671161]Care to give us the source of your discovery?[/QUOTE]It must suck to not be able to find stuff on Google after I twice mentioned where it was.

Doesn't matter what the French says either. In old Greek it was written without an h, and the western languages all seem have tried to use that as the original. In old Hebrew it sounded quite a bit different, so I doubt that was the original the western languages have copied. Where it was named something on A.

But your main problem is that you think I care, when you point you me being lazy at writing here on the forum. But I don't.

And you always try this every time you feel the need to derail.

So, what would you have done in Ukraine?

[URL]https://context.reverso.net/traduction/anglais-francais/gomorrah[/URL]

You must be talking about this? That's Reverso context, not reverse. This is why I don't like taking too much time checking your sources, you make so many mistakes that it adds more complexity.

'gomorra' refers to a movie, this one: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomorrah_[/URL](film).

'gomorra' is the Italian title.

'gomorre' comes from a sentence with some typos so I guess it's another one.

Do you understand how reverso context works? It's a bot browsing Internet, no one checks what he finds.

So eventually you were wrong, again. You're going to find some other stupid things to say and skip to another subject but everyone here can read that you are constantly spewing bullshit.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2671288]Financially there is no way the USA can handle a new war. The debt was out of control which lead to stopping the Afghanistan 20 year war and it was cheaper to leave stuff behind than to take it and the USA is struggling to fund Medicare which has tons of old people balooning up, which is why China virus / Covid helps due to killing old people at a minimum medical costs which saves money for Medicare and retirement payments. Moreover, cities across the USA and counties are going bankrupt funding their retirement systems as well.[/QUOTE]US made good business from wars. Fortunately they got rid of crazy golfer when crazy dictator sleep on red button when he understood he will never get Ukrainians except in Donbass, but just waiting for excuse to press when he knows his future is behind him. Why he also want nuclear factories, to scare the world when he is dirty isolated now or maybe only with China which will send him new virus.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2671424]You're going to find some other stupid things to say and skip to another subject but everyone here can read that you are constantly spewing bullshit.[/QUOTE]Says the guy who is doing all he can to avoid my initial question, but derailing as hard as he can.

So what would you do in Ukraine. Anyone can look back and see that this was why you started derailing with a name we all know is wrongfully translated into English. And the French are irrelevant and unsure what to translate it into.

You also don't know the difference between a book, a movie and a tv series. The hilarious thing is that 2 out of 3 would be accurate here. Yet you chose the 3rd option.

BigB: your life is pathetic.

You even admit the French name an Italian book Gomorra without h. Yet you think that is different from another name: The city the book is named after. Still you fail to notice how in English they have are aped even the name of the book by adding the h.

Your life must be so pitiful. And you think other people care. You are genetically unable to be correct about anything. What a lowlife!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2671424][URL]https://context.reverso.net/traduction/anglais-francais/gomorrah[/URL]

You must be talking about this? That's Reverso context, not reverse. This is why I don't like taking too much time checking your sources, you make so many mistakes that it adds more complexity.

'gomorra' refers to a movie, this one: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomorrah_[/URL](film).

'gomorra' is the Italian title.

'gomorre' comes from a sentence with some typos so I guess it's another one.

Do you understand how reverso context works? It's a bot browsing Internet, no one checks what he finds.

So eventually you were wrong, again. You're going to find some other stupid things to say and skip to another subject but everyone here can read that you are constantly spewing bullshit.[/QUOTE]Once again, you're right, he's wrong. But alas because we engage, he wins you lose. I mean, if you reveal a retarded dork to be just that, what do you gain? It's like beating up a girl in a fight. You're obviously physically superior, but there shouldn't have been any question.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2671549]US made good business from wars. Fortunately they got rid of crazy golfer when crazy dictator sleep on red button when he understood he will never get Ukrainians except in Donbass, but just waiting for excuse to press when he knows his future is behind him. Why he also want nuclear factories, to scare the world when he is dirty isolated now or maybe only with China which will send him new virus.[/QUOTE]It is true that the capitalist oligarchs in the USA profit from wars, but the government and the proletariat in the USA are oppressed by paying for wars which the USA oligarchs profit from. The 4 trillion USD infrastructure / pork / bloat plan cannot occur if a war is being paid for it is not possible fiscally.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671743]Once again, you're right, he's wrong. But alas because we engage, he wins you lose. I mean, if you reveal a retarded dork to be just that, what do you gain? It's like beating up a girl in a fight. You're obviously physically superior, but there shouldn't have been any question.[/QUOTE]Look up how Gomorra is spelled in old Greek. The original spelling western languages used as a base for the name. We all here understand how BigB just shat his pants like the little baby he is.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671743]Once again, you're right, he's wrong. But alas because we engage, he wins you lose. I mean, if you reveal a retarded dork to be just that, what do you gain? It's like beating up a girl in a fight. You're obviously physically superior, but there shouldn't have been any question.[/QUOTE]And you with the 2 cm. What class are you in?

This has got to sting for the 1st grader with no life BigB. Who only wanted to discuss this topic because he needed a derail:

Gomorra: old Greek, Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch, Portuguese, Norwegian (and the Scandinavian languages).

Sum: 7.

Gomorrah: English.

Sum: 1.

Insecure countries: French. I'll add in the Slavic here as well, as they seem insecure on it also. Yet with no h there:

Sum: 2.

Total score:

7 - 1.

It's like Germany vs Brazil in that world cup semi final.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2671675]Says the guy who is doing all he can to avoid my initial question, but derailing as hard as he can.

So what would you do in Ukraine. Anyone can look back and see that this was why you started derailing with a name we all know is wrongfully translated into English. And the French are irrelevant and unsure what to translate it into.

You also don't know the difference between a book, a movie and a tv series. The hilarious thing is that 2 out of 3 would be accurate here. Yet you chose the 3rd option.[/QUOTE]Everyone can see that you are embarrassing yourself again.

In Ukraine I would make sure that the Russians capture you and keep you as a prisoner of war. With your permanent nonsensical banter, they would probably retreat.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2669873]Sodoma and Gomorra might just happen again.[/QUOTE]I forgot: it's 'Sodom' in English. Get a brain. Or use a full Italian sentence (use Google and try to copy the whole sentence, even you can do it).

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671743]… if you reveal a retarded dork to be just that…[/QUOTE]Please don't use "retarded" as an insult. It's a reference to people with a difficult congenital condition through no fault of their own. They have a hard enough lot in life as it is.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2671675]Says the guy who is doing all he can to avoid my initial question, but derailing as hard as he can.

So what would you do in Ukraine. Anyone can look back and see that this was why you started derailing with a name we all know is wrongfully translated into English. And the French are irrelevant and unsure what to translate it into.

You also don't know the difference between a book, a movie and a tv series. The hilarious thing is that 2 out of 3 would be accurate here. Yet you chose the 3rd option.[/QUOTE]Just about Ukraine and I don t think about women running away to come to be fucked in FKK when they left their husband, father of their children and many will be killed by shameful dirty dictator named like this by one who loves Russia and chose to learn Russian when I was only 13 , but not because of him I hate as much as Ukrainians do. Ukrainians are exceptional for resistance, when Russian army is not performing with bad quality materials, and their resistance is protection for Eastern Europe until Berlin which is even weaker than Ukraine, when Georgia, Moldavia, Romania and even Poland have to worry a bit about back to USSR as sang Ringo Star. Of course I wish Ukrainians will resist, when they deserve our respect versus one who gives shame to whole wonderful Russia which need a new Lenine to kill the dirty Tsar dictator controlling all information.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2671838]I forgot: it's 'Sodom' in English. Get a brain. Or use a full Italian sentence (use Google and try to copy the whole sentence, even you can do it).[/QUOTE]So you gave up on Gomorra? Loser!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2671825]Everyone can see that you are embarrassing yourself again.

In Ukraine I would make sure that the Russians capture you and keep you as a prisoner of war. With your permanent nonsensical banter, they would probably retreat.[/QUOTE]So I would save the world? I am the solution to all our problems? I suppose I could say thanks. But its you, so I won't.

I think Russia will soon realize that they fucked up once China becomes their only lifeline and demands parts of Siberia in return. All the territory east of Lake Baikal. That area has so much natural resources that if pressured hard enough by China, it could cause a war between China and Russia. Perhaps nuclear as Russia wouldn't have the manpower.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2671941]Just about Ukraine and I don t think about women running away to come to be fucked in FKK when they left their husband, father of their children and many will be killed by shameful dirty dictator named like this by one who loves Russia and chose to learn Russian when I was only 13 , but not because of him I hate as much as Ukrainians do. Ukrainians are exceptional for resistance, when Russian army is not performing with bad quality materials, and their resistance is protection for Eastern Europe until Berlin which is even weaker than Ukraine, when Georgia, Moldavia, Romania and even Poland have to worry a bit about back to USSR as sang Ringo Star. Of course I wish Ukrainians will resist, when they deserve our respect versus one who gives shame to whole wonderful Russia which need a new Lenine to kill the dirty Tsar dictator controlling all information.[/QUOTE]I'm proud some French mercenaries want to go to help courageous Ukrainians versus shameful Putin with his Wagner and Tchetchens.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2672013]So you gave up on Gomorra? Loser![/QUOTE]No I didn't. It's 'Gomorrhe' in French and 'gomorrah' in English but since talking to you is like talking to a 8 yo brat overprotected by his alcoholic mommy, I think we're done.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2672208]No I didn't. It's 'Gomorrhe' in French and 'gomorrah' in English but since talking to you is like talking to a 8 yo brat overprotected by his alcoholic mommy, I think we're done.[/QUOTE]Like Brazil celebrating their 1 goal by Oscar during their humble 7-1 defeat at home. Only for him to soon afterwards move to China and ruin his career.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2670521]Why do I get the feeling that's no longer the case? After 4 years of Trump pulling away and Biden not really doing anything to undo the Trump stance, it feels more like France and UK have stepped into leadership roles. Still, dumb Nord.[/QUOTE]While not sanctioned, the Bush administration did bully France, when it did not go along with the Iraq invasion.

[QUOTE]When President Bush began looking for ways around a U.N.-sanctioned military action, Chirac warned him: "Don't go it alone." But President Bush did, launching a U.S.-led but not U.N.-sanctioned invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003.

Just a month later, U.S. officials were drawing up ways to punish France for getting in Washington's way. Measures included trying to exclude France from discussions on how to handle Iraq in the aftermath of the invasion, and not awarding reconstruction contracts to French companies.

By May, Chirac had had enough. Convinced France was the victim of an "organized campaign of disinformation" from within the Bush administration, the government asked its ambassador to the U.S. to write to President Bush to ask him to set the record straight on accusations in the American media coming from "official sources."

The clash soured Franco-American relations for the next several years, but it increased Chirac's profile at home as the French praised him for standing up to what were seen as bullying tactics from Washington.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jacques-chirac-french-president-who-challenged-us-on-iraq-war-dies-at-86-today-in-paris-2019-09-26/.[/QUOTE]While Russia deserves primary blame for the invasion, most western media sources will try to pin 100 percent of the blame on Russia. As most things go, there is more nuance. Russophobia and anti-Russian sentiment is at an all-time high, so my fear is that jingoism and nationalism will lead to further warmongering and escalation or protraction of the ongoing human suffering in Ukraine. Anybody who is the least bit sympathetic of Russia or even slightly critical of the US-led western alliance is branded a traitor. I am surprised that this opinion piece in the Guardian was allowed to be published. For the current tragedy in Ukraine, the author attempts to shift a small portion of the blame to the US-led NATO expansion.

[QUOTE]The west’s new cold war with Russia has turned hot. Vladimir Putin bears primary responsibility for this latest development, but Nato’s arrogant, tone‐​deaf policy toward Russia over the past quarter‐​century deserves a large share as well. Analysts committed to a US foreign policy of realism and restraint have warned for more than a quarter‐​century that continuing to expand the most powerful military alliance in history toward another major power would not end well. The war in Ukraine provides definitive confirmation that it did not.

Western (especially US) leaders continued to blow through red warning light after a red warning light, however. The Obama administration’s shockingly arrogant meddling in Ukraine’s internal political affairs in 2013 and 2014 to help demonstrators overthrow Ukraine’s elected, pro‐​Russia president was the single most brazen provocation, and it caused tensions to spike. Moscow immediately responded by seizing and annexing Crimea, and a new cold war was underway with a vengeance.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine.[/QUOTE]

What's up with the aids covid-vaxx link I've been hearing about. Any jabbed persons here been tested recently?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2672430]While not sanctioned, the Bush administration did bully France, when it did not go along with the Iraq invasion.

While Russia deserves primary blame for the invasion, most western media sources will try to pin 100 percent of the blame on Russia. As most things go, there is more nuance. Russophobia and anti-Russian sentiment is at an all-time high, so my fear is that jingoism and nationalism will lead to further warmongering and escalation or protraction of the ongoing human suffering in Ukraine. Anybody who is the least bit sympathetic of Russia or even slightly critical of the US-led western alliance is branded a traitor. I am surprised that this opinion piece in the Guardiani was allowed to be published. For the current tragedy in Ukraine, the author attempts to shift a small portion of the blame to the US-led NATO expansion.[/QUOTE]There is a perspective which paints the West as breaking the promise of not expanding NATO. Baltic-NATO is the representation of Western betrayal to Russia. In the end, does not justify Putin's Fuckery.

Oh there is no doubt in my mind that the logic behind opening the NATO door to Ukraine is beyond stupid. Sweden and Finland have managed well outside of NATO. And so could Ukraine.

So by not closing the nato door to Ukraine, the west certainly does have some blame.

But EU is different. That's what the Ukrainian people want to join.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2672479]What's up with the aids covid-vaxx link I've been hearing about. Any jabbed persons here been tested recently?[/QUOTE]Your mommy doesn't love you. That's why you need attention by posting deliberately stupid shit meant to get attention. Perhaps the same for Poon.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2672506]There is a perspective which paints the West as breaking the promise of not expanding NATO. Baltic-NATO is the representation of Western betrayal to Russia. In the end, does not justify Putin's Fuckery.[/QUOTE]First-off, I am anti-war, so I am against the Russian invasion. In an ideal world, this would have been solved via diplomacy or other means. Russian's security grievances are valid as is Ukraine's sovereignty. Smaller countries are allowed to be sovereign as long as they are aligned strategically with regional powers. In the early 1960's, USA was fine with Cuba being sovereign, but it wanted Castro out, and replaced with a more-US friendly leader, hence their support for the failed US-funded, CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion.

If Canada or Mexico suddenly decided to cozy up to Beijing, and Chinese military were stationed in North America, it would not be tolerated. What Canada or Mexico wants then becomes invalid if it conflicts with USA's security interests. And the USA would be justified in punishing Canada or Mexico, whether that be through acts of subversion, economic sanctions, or even militarily.

When USSR got too close to USA, we almost had WW III. JFK began with a naval blockade, but there were plans to escalate further, if a peaceful resolution with Khrushchev could not be found.

[QUOTE]On September 13, Kennedy wrote: [b]"If at any time the Communist build-up in Cuba were to endanger or interfere with our security in any way . . . or if Cuba should ever . . . become an offensive military base of significant capacity for the Soviet Union, then this country will do whatever must be done to protect its own security and that of its allies."[/b]

https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2002/fall/cuban-missiles.html
[/QUOTE][QUOTE]In 1962, the Soviet Union had encroached on the U.S. government’s self-defined sphere of influence by installing medium-range nuclear missiles in Cuba, a nation only 90 miles from U.S. shores. The Cuban government had requested the missiles as a deterrent to a U.S. invasion — an invasion that seemed quite possible given the long history of U.S. intervention in Cuban affairs, as well as the 1961 U.S.-sponsored Bay of Pigs invasion.

The Soviet government was amenable to the request because it wanted to reassure its new Cuban ally of its protection. It also felt that missile deployment would even the nuclear balance, for the U.S. government already had deployed nuclear missiles in Turkey, on Russia’s border.

From the U.S. government’s standpoint, the fact the Cuban government had the right to make its own security decisions and that the Soviet government was simply copying U.S. policy in Turkey was of much less significance than its assumption that there could be no compromise when it came to the traditional U.S. sphere of influence in the Caribbean and Latin America.

[b]Thus, President John F. Kennedy ordered a U.S. naval blockade — which he called a “quarantine” — around Cuba, and stated that he would not permit the presence of nuclear missiles on the island. To secure the missile removal, he announced, he would not “shrink” from “worldwide nuclear war.”[/b]

Eventually, the intense crisis was resolved. Kennedy and Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev agreed the U.S.S.R. would remove the missiles from Cuba, while Kennedy pledged not to invade Cuba and to remove the U.S. missiles from Turkey.

[b]Instead of stationing missiles on the borders of both nations, they simply got rid of them. Instead of warring over the status of Cuba, the U.S. government gave up any idea of invasion.[/b]

https://www.riverdalepress.com/stories/what-cuban-missile-crisis-teaches-us-about-ukraine,77815
[/QUOTE][QUOTE]At the time, the U.S. invoked the Monroe Doctrine, first laid out in 1823 and an assertion of American dominance in the Western Hemisphere. U.S. politicians said it gave them a free hand to prevent foreign influence in the Americas.

[b]Although Cuban leader Fidel Castro would have liked it, Cuba was never allowed to join the Warsaw Pact — the Soviet equivalent of NATO. The Soviet Union was aware that it would have been extremely provocative to allow Cuba to do so.[/b]

The Monroe Doctrine has persisted long after the Cuban Missile Crisis, and was reflected in the U.S. invasions of Grenada and Panama in 1983 and 1989 respectively. The U.S. has never formally renounced the Monroe Doctrine, and it remains a part of the American political toolbox when required.

https://theconversation.com/why-vladimir-putin-wont-back-down-in-ukraine-177765.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2672665]Russian's security grievances are valid as is Ukraine's sovereignty.[/QUOTE]Are they though? I don't think the west has actively promoted war with Russia since it was officially Soviet, for nuclear deterrence if for no other reason. The NATO buildup into Baltic and Balkan countries while displeasing to Russia and even a detriment to Russian global prestige has come with very little military threat, mostly legitimately defensive positions focused on missile defense unless I'm mistaken. I'm no military expert for sure.

In the end, I don't think security was the active threat to Russia unless you're speaking of economic security or security to their sphere of influence.

Regarding Cuba, well let's just say that America's military interferences in the name of defending "freedom" and "democracy" is not without fault either.

Meanwhile, the Chinese are laughing literally to the bank. There's a lot of terrible criticisms that can be said about the CCP methods in building up their national strength but finding fault in their international relations policies is quite harder. Their spheres of influence reaching from Africa, across the countries of the Indian Ocean, and now pushing into South America was constructed methodically and purely through economic methods.

Military operations are so 20th century and cliched out.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2672665]First-off, I am anti-war, so I am against the Russian invasion. In an ideal world, this would have been solved via diplomacy or other means. Russian's security grievances are valid as is Ukraine's sovereignty. Smaller countries are allowed to be sovereign as long as they are aligned strategically with regional powers. In the early 1960's, USA was fine with Cuba being sovereign, but it wanted Castro out, and replaced with a more-US friendly leader, hence their support for the failed US-funded, CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion.

If Canada or Mexico suddenly decided to cozy up to Beijing, and Chinese military were stationed in North America, it would not be tolerated. What Canada or Mexico wants then becomes invalid if it conflicts with USA's security interests. And the USA would be justified in punishing Canada or Mexico, whether that be through acts of subversion, economic sanctions, or even militarily.

When USSR got too close to USA, we almost had WW III. JFK began with a naval blockade, but there were plans to escalate further, if a peaceful resolution with Khrushchev could not be found.[/QUOTE]For sure, paranoiac small dick dictator Putin had really to be scared by very poor Ukraine, or maybe he wants black sea since so long time, or dream when he was young and could play KGB until the wall. Berlin have to worry, I don't know in each part is Artemis? If East, maybe beautiful Russian girls soon.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2672531]........But EU is different. That's what the Ukrainian people want to join.[/QUOTE]That's what caused the Maidan uprising which began on 21 November 2013. The protests were sparked by the Ukrainian government's decision not to sign the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement. Back then the legitimate government of president Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown with help from the west.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2672653]Your mommy doesn't love you. That's why you need attention by posting deliberately stupid shit meant to get attention. Perhaps the same for Poon.[/QUOTE]I was not aware that mommy love was what you define your life by. But apparently so.

The aids rumor I heard was that after 3 jabs plus, there is an increased chance of getting an autoimmune disease either causing aids, or being aids. It was just a rumor I heard since I didn't read too much into it. From the same guy who first discovered aids I think. Thought I should ask here first.

Much better to have covid twice than get the vaccine. [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5[/URL] "strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-19", "greater reduction in grey matter thickness and tissue", "greater changes in markers of tissue damage", "greater reduction in global brain size".

That's what I said, constantly skips to another (stupid) subject when proven wrong, and never checks his sources, which are most of the time utter crap like Facebook and Telegram. The guy who discovered HIV was Luc Montagnier, he died recently and in his last years he became a conspiracy freak (like you). Well at least he did something good when he was younger.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2672965]Much better to have covid twice than get the vaccine. [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5[/URL] "strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-19", "greater reduction in grey matter thickness and tissue", "greater changes in markers of tissue damage", "greater reduction in global brain size".[/QUOTE]In my 50's, I m pretty sure I got when coming back from Sharks on mid March 2020 , with big pain in legs when no sport except fucking German Tabea for her first room at Sharks and sweating at night, when I would have preferred no vaccine, if no pass to be free, when I worry about my heart on intense violent efforts for hours under high heat, when I finished strong on my last Summer tour. Just my point of view about my health when I visited so many times brothels without vaccine.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2672994]That's what I said, constantly skips to another (stupid) subject when proven wrong, and never checks his sources, which are most of the time utter crap like Facebook and Telegram.[/QUOTE]He's basically a British tabloid "reporter."

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2672725]Are they though? I don't think the west has actively promoted war with Russia since it was officially Soviet, for nuclear deterrence if for no other reason. The NATO buildup into Baltic and Balkan countries while displeasing to Russia and even a detriment to Russian global prestige has come with very little military threat, mostly legitimately defensive positions focused on missile defense unless I'm mistaken. I'm no military expert for sure.[/QUOTE]Defensive alliance? NATO was involved in Yugoslavia, Libya, and Afghanistan. None of these countries attacked a NATO member. Given how far NATO has already expanded east, does NATO really need Ukraine as a staging or forward operating location? Reagan's reason for invading Grenada in 1983 was "to prevent the island's use as a base for Soviet and Cuban aggression in the Western Hemisphere". RE: missiles: here is what I would characterize as a fairly objective write-up on the subject from a US Army major: [URL]https://warontherocks.com/2022/01/why-intermediate-range-missiles-are-a-focal-point-in-the-ukraine-crisis/[/URL].

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2672725]Regarding Cuba, well let's just say that America's military interferences in the name of defending "freedom" and "democracy" is not without fault either.

Military operations are so 20th century and cliched out.[/QUOTE]I would say the good-guy bad-guy narrative is cliched out. Countries advance their strategic interests. When it aligns with the moral, right thing to do, then great. If not, oh well, we will just work with our allies and control the narrative to whitewash any hypocrisy, much like a serial poster who attempts to drown out all other opinions.

Consider Saudi Arabia: authoritarian regime, alleged human rights abuser, military aggressor that is bombing and committing war crimes on Yemeni civilians. Why is the West not imposing crippling, economic sanctions on Saudi Arabia? Where is the moral outcry? Where are he "We Stand by Yemen" pledges? Instead 24 percent of the USA's arms exports go to the Saudi-coalition, British 32 percent, Canadian 49 percent. Since 2015, there have been 24000 air raids.

[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/9/yemens-war-explained-in-maps-and-charts-interactive[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]Of course the situation in Ukraine is grotesque. But the horror and the suffering cannot be compared to Yemen, defined by the United Nations as the greatest humanitarian calamity of the 21st century.[/b]

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-media-bias-west-blatant-racism
[/QUOTE]In fairness, Biden made campaign promises to make the Saudi dictatorship a "pariah", but he has continued to support them just like his two predecessors. Voices from both sides of the aisle vehemently oppose continued involvement, excerpts from Rand Paul and left-leaning MSNBC below:

[QUOTE]Congress never authorized American participation in a war in Yemen. And yet, here we are, involved in yet another Middle East war. We have an unfortunate habit of arming foreign nations, only to discover that these supposed allies may be creating more enemies for America than they are killing. Not only are we selling the bombs to Saudi Arabia that they are dropping on Yemen, the presidents first military act was to send a manned raid of Navy Seals into Yemen. Tragically, one of our Navy SEALs was killed, along with several women and children.

https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/rare-op-ed-us-should-not-fund-saudi-arabia%E2%80%99s-war-yemen
[/QUOTE][QUOTE]
Of these interests, supporting U.S. allies is a leading reason why the Middle East has become the epicenter of American overreach and the unwarranted taking of sides in local conflicts. We have essentially treated the often ill-defined and aggressive objectives of U.S. partners in the region as our own, essentially letting these mostly autocratic dictatorships determine U.S. policy in the Middle East.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/biden-enabling-america-s-indefensible-history-saudi-arabia-n1287941
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2672965]Much better to have covid twice than get the vaccine. [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5[/URL] "strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-19", "greater reduction in grey matter thickness and tissue", "greater changes in markers of tissue damage", "greater reduction in global brain size".[/QUOTE]Well that sucks. I didn't have much gray matter to spare in the first place. LOL.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2669679]Yeah, poor Russia. Their neighbours always invading them. Lett's see. 1939 when Poland was already defeated by Nazi Germany, Russia invaded Poland, because what? Poland was a threat? Then Finland with all their might was threatening them, so they invaded Finland. Then Russia was under threat from those huge Baltic countries, so they invaded them as well. Then Romania was really threatening Russia, so they invaded half of Moldova. How about crushing Budapest in 1956, crushing Prague in 1968. Were Hungarians and Czechs armies close to Moscow?

Disgusting. Of course Romania is not the threat. But Russia invaded them twice since 2014. Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves.

How about letting the Ukrainians decide about their future. You have no idea what it means to live in an authoritarian state. What freedom exactly are the people in the US missing?[/QUOTE]NATO is a defensive alliance of freedom loving nations that has never been a threat to Russia. The fact is the USSR fell, some nations from that sphere got a taste of freedom and settled on a new way of life. And yes, those in the US and EU who give comfort to Putin by trying lay blame for his atrocities on NATO are traitors. That's just how it is.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2672430]While not sanctioned, the Bush administration did bully France, when it did not go along with the Iraq invasion.

While Russia deserves primary blame for the invasion, most western media sources will try to pin 100 percent of the blame on Russia. As most things go, there is more nuance. Russophobia and anti-Russian sentiment is at an all-time high, so my fear is that jingoism and nationalism will lead to further warmongering and escalation or protraction of the ongoing human suffering in Ukraine. Anybody who is the least bit sympathetic of Russia or even slightly critical of the US-led western alliance is branded a traitor. I am surprised that this opinion piece in the Guardian was allowed to be published. For the current tragedy in Ukraine, the author attempts to shift a small portion of the blame to the US-led NATO expansion.[/QUOTE]Truth is that's exactly what you are is a traitor, if you live in the US or the EU, as you are giving comfort to a pure villain, liar and murderer and our enemy with your pandering intellectual sophistry. Your are putting lipstick on a pig. Putin like Hitler has been creating grievances, spinning lies and pseudo-history to justify his aggressions and land grabs. This while murdering his political opponents and beating and jailing peaceful protestors at home. The USSR fell, some countries from that sphere tasted freedom and decided to join our defensive alliance. NATO nor the Ukraine was any threat to Russia unless they attacked, something they have a long history of doing. Ideally the Russian people will ultimately decide to remove their mad czar and resume a semblance of normal relations with the world. It's not any more complicated than that.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673166]Defensive alliance? NATO was involved in Yugoslavia, Libya, and Afghanistan. None of these countries attacked a NATO member. Given how far NATO has already expanded east, does NATO really need Ukraine as a staging or forward operating location? [/QUOTE]I don't think I ever blessed NATO with the term "defensive alliance. " I have no such delusions. I merely stated, as you quoted: "defensive positions in the Baltic States".

No, NATO does not need Ukraine and collectively has been reserved about letting them in, much to the detriment of Ukraine.

Anyway, to the original question of Russia's "security grievances. " What grievances? Does any of the actions in the southern Slavic regions, northern Africa, or Middle East threaten Russian security? Was there even a plausible case of Western infringement into Russian security? Was that actually really a realistic much less likely consideration in the past 20+ years?

What Russian security grievance? I vehemently ask.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673166]I would say the good-guy bad-guy narrative is cliched out. Countries advance their strategic interests. When it aligns with the moral, right thing to do, then great. If not, oh well, we will just work with our allies and control the narrative to whitewash any hypocrisy, much like a serial poster who attempts to drown out all other opinions.[/QUOTE]One might say that is a bit of the Napoleonic dictator tendency. It must be hardwired.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673166]Consider Saudi Arabia: authoritarian regime, alleged human rights abuser, military aggressor that is bombing and committing war crimes on Yemeni civilians. Why is the West not imposing crippling, economic sanctions on Saudi Arabia? Where is the moral outcry? Where are he "We Stand by Yemen" pledges? Instead 24 percent of the USA's arms exports go to the Saudi-coalition, British 32 percent, Canadian 49 percent. Since 2015, there have been 24000 air raids.[/QUOTE]Duh, no "European looking people" in Yemen.

Myths Debunked.

[URL]https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673219]Truth is that's exactly what you are is a traitor.

NATO nor the Ukraine was any threat to Russia unless they attacked, something they have a long history of doing.[/QUOTE]This is article written about a month before the invasion. Nevertheless, the author seems fully aware that Putin might use force. Nowhere does he suggest that Moscow has "move the goal post" security demands. He also characterises the Western response as dismissive RE: arms control.

[QUOTE]While it is folly to discount the potential that Putin fully intends to use force to achieve his strategic goals, it is also unwise to dismiss a potential path to resolution, a compromise that may let all parties save face. The return of theater-support missiles, brought on by the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treatys demise, [b]challenges Russias security[/b] and undoubtedly influences the countrys decision-making. [b]Since the treatys end, Russias actions have sent a clear message that it would not let intermediate-range missiles reemerge in Europe. However, the response from the West not only failed to address Russias concerns but treated the reintegration of these missiles as a foregone conclusion[/b], focusing almost exclusively on the relative advantage that their deployment could provide to the United States and NATO. While NATO expansion may very well be the primary driver of Russias actions toward Ukraine, the return of these strategic missiles is also a factor that the United States should consider.

Consequently, while reversing NATO expansion is a non-starter for many in the West, a potential arms agreement concerning the formerly banned missiles is not only a realistic goal, but it is something that all parties have expressed a willingness to work towards. In this context, if successful negotiations occur, missiles will be the likely focal point. Consequently, the United States may have to concede the tactical and operational benefits that theater-support missiles could provide in Europe for the potential strategic victory of defusing the tensions on the Ukraine border.[/QUOTE]The author's general tone is that there is a "failure of nations to communicate". Note the plural. It is not a one-sided, Putin is evil rant. FWIW, despite the author stating that the re-introduction of theater support missiles challenges Russia's security, I would not characterize him as a traitor. Nothing in his bio suggests so:

[QUOTE]Brennan Deveraux is a major in the U.S. Army and is currently attending the Army Command and General Staff School at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, as an Art of War Scholar. He is an Army strategist and former field artillery officer specializing in rocket-artillery employment. He has completed combat deployments to Iraq and the Horn of Africa and has a masters degree in strategic studies from the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California[/QUOTE][URL]https://warontherocks.com/2022/01/why-intermediate-range-missiles-are-a-focal-point-in-the-ukraine-crisis/[/URL]

I will re-word for clarity. As the invading force, ofc Putin is to blame. Nothing justifies his actions, but as this NYT article suggests, USA and NATO are not entirely innocent when it comes to fanning the flames.

Former Defence Secretary Bill Perry against NATO expansion, 2016:

[QUOTE]"In the last few years, most of the blame can be pointed at the actions that Putin has taken. [B]But in the early years I have to say that the United States deserves much of the blame[/B]. Our first action that really set us off in a bad direction was when NATO started to expand, bringing in Eastern European nations, some of them bordering Russia.

"At that time, we were working closely with Russia and they were beginning to get used to the idea that NATO could be a friend rather than an enemy. But they were very uncomfortable about having NATO right up on their border and they made a strong appeal for us not to go ahead with that. ".
[/QUOTE]Former Ambassador to Moscow, George Kennan, "foremost Russian expert" against NATO expansion in 1998, predicting the events of February 2022:

[QUOTE]"I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else. This expansion would make the founding fathers of this country turn over in their graves.

"We have signed up to protect a whole series of countries, even though we have neither the resources nor the intention to do so in any serious way. NATO expansion was simply a lighthearted action by a Senate that has no real interest in foreign affairs. What bothers me is how superficial and ill informed the whole Senate debate was. [b]I was particularly bothered by the references to Russia as a country dying to attack Western Europe[/b].

"Don't people understand? Our differences in the Cold War were with the Soviet Communist regime. And now we are turning our backs on the very people who mounted the greatest bloodless revolution in history to remove that Soviet regime. And Russia's democracy is as far advanced, if not farther, as any of these countries we've just signed up to defend from Russia. [B]Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then the NATO expanders will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are but this is just wrong.[/B]".[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/putin-ukraine-nato.html[/URL]

We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673253]I don't think I ever blessed NATO with the term "defensive alliance. " I have no such delusions.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what it is though. The myths or "delusions" that you and McAdonis have bought into are exposed through the link below. Sad that anti-American propaganda, especially that which has been popular among many ungrateful Euros has found it's way into discussions of the most recent Russian butchery and attacks on freedom. There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.

[URL]https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673301]I will re-word for clarity. As the invading force, ofc Putin is to blame. Nothing justifies his actions, but as this NYT article suggests, USA and NATO are not entirely innocent when it comes to fanning the flames.

Former Defence Secretary Bill Perry against NATO expansion, 2016:

Former Ambassador to Moscow, George Kennan, "foremost Russian expert" against NATO expansion in 1998, predicting the events of February 2022:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/putin-ukraine-nato.html[/URL]

We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.[/QUOTE]Putin makes kill babies in Marioupol. He is just a shameful criminal dirtying Russia image. Our world have to get rid of him. Bald German has to find solution not to buy gaz, when EU pay Putin army. We must stop this, when soldiers are paid 52 USD per day with EU money, but many young Russians telling they want to return home. Good, no crazy stupid Trump on the other side, when paranoiac dirty Putin just wait for faintest excuse to press button.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2672965]Much better to have covid twice than get the vaccine. [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5[/URL] "strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-19", "greater reduction in grey matter thickness and tissue", "greater changes in markers of tissue damage", "greater reduction in global brain size".[/QUOTE]Too bad then that you still get covid even if vaxxed.

Instead of giving the big pharma more money, I'd suggest fixing your diets. There is a lot of things that blocks the spike protein:

For example MMS (CIO2), shikimic acid (or shikimake), hesperidin (and quercetin).

The problem with the quackzine is that it doesn't stop the spike protein from entering the nucleus of the cell. As it entering the cell nucleus through the enzyme reverse transcriptase. And the DNA repair mechanism is stopped due to the spike protein blocking the BRCA1 and 53 BP1 proteins. And this is where aids or other immune diseases might come into the picture.

But a solution to that may actually be found in red wine: reservatrol. Which can block the spike protein from entering the cell nucleus. So if you are jinxed with quackzines, your solution might be to become an alcoholic instead. And just drink lots of red wine. Not that I'm sure yet of the levels needed. Non vaxxed people who has covid might also want to get reservatrol. But they won't have as many spike proteins swimming about at other times.

The international space station has an American astronaut refused a ride back to Earth by the Russian rocket due to sanctions.

Transcript on Space Station:

Astronaut: Open the pod bay doors, Putin.

Shuttle:

Astronaut: Open the pod bay doors, please.

Shuttle:

Astronaut: Hello, Putin, do you read me?

Shuttle: I'm afraid I can't do that.

Astronaut: What's the problem?

Shuttle: I think you know what the problem is, just as well as I do.

Astronaut: Open the pod bay doors!

Shuttle: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose. Goodbye.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673301]We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.[/QUOTE]I've got a better analogy. Western culture is the cool crowd in which people want to be a part. Putin's Russia is that lonely emo kid sitting alone at the lunch table. Instead of legitimately becoming more inviting and attractive to win people over, the emo kid comes to school with an AK47 and shoots up the school cafeteria because he's not one of the cool kids.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673331]That's exactly what it is though. The myths or "delusions" that you and McAdonis have bought into are exposed through the link below. Sad that anti-American propaganda, especially that which has been popular among many ungrateful Euros has found it's way into discussions of the most recent Russian butchery and attacks on freedom. There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.

[URL]https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah sure, just like America never betrayed the principle that "all men are created equal." Giant eyeroll.

If you can't admit that NATO has sometimes infringed on other nation's sovereignty, abusing the concept of defending the alliance, then you might as well buy some property in the middle of the Magic Kingdom.

"If you're not with us you're against us".

That's some scare tactic they tell dumb fuckers who can't decipher details.

Adults should be able to discuss complex issues and parse nuances. Propaganda is meant for the emotional young, the uneducated masses, or the out of date elderly. Which one are you emulating here?

Except that when I got covid, having been armed with the tools to fight off infection more quickly, I was over it in a day and a haf and became noninfectious much quicker, infecting less people along the way than those unvaxxed who had symptoms for a week to weeks. Kind of the way vaccines work.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2673397]There is a lot of things that blocks the spike protein:[/QUOTE]You have so many theories. Yet you got covid twice. BTW, still suffering from the ED that you were complaining before?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673331]There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.[/QUOTE]Russia and Saudi Arabia are both authoritarian states, accused of war crimes, as well as military aggressors that "launch attacks on freedom". Yet the West supports one evil regime but not the other. Why not just be transparent and say Russia is our strategic enemy and Saudi Arabia is our ally? And supporting one over the other aligns more with our strategic geopolitic and financial interests?

Every empire in the history of civilization has created this narrative: "We are the good guys, and we need to defeat the bad guys". It is the narrative used to console mothers who must send their young sons off to war. I am sure you can go to any point in history when the USA had tensions with a foreign power, read the archived newspapers, and see the demonization campaigns. Often lasting up to a decade, beating the drums and rallying support for war. Rinse and repeat. As ex-President Jimmy Carter, Naval Academy Graduate and patriot opined in 2018: USA is the most war-mongering nation in history; it has been engaged in wars for all but 16 of its 242 years of existence.

This good guy versus bad guy narrative that seemingly exists everywhere is no different than "religion". They cannot all be correct, but 80 percent of the people on each side believe they are correct.

Great powers (Russia, USA, China) occasionally bully weaker powers. Poland historically has been a buffer state between great powers and has been wiped off the map multiple times in its history. Unfortunately, for smaller nations, any desire to be sovereign will always be a delicate balancing act that requires hedging their bets.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673448]I've got a better analogy. Western culture is the cool crowd in which people want to be a part. Putin's Russia is that lonely emo kid sitting alone at the lunch table. Instead of legitimately becoming more inviting and attractive to win people over, the emo kid comes to school with an AK47 and shoots up the school cafeteria because he's not one of the cool kids.[/QUOTE]Haha, well I would say the emo kid so far has just shot his little brother, because he felt betrayed. And the cool kid made some promises of security to the little brother that emboldened him to sit at the cool kids table.

European Union's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Friday:

[QUOTE]“I am ready to admit that we made a number of mistakes and that we lost the possibility of Russia’s rapprochement with the West," he said in an interview aired on the TF1 television channel. "There are moments that we could do better, there are things that we proposed and then could not implement, such as, for example, the promise that Ukraine and Georgia will become part of NATO."

"I think it's a mistake to make promises that you can't keep,” Borrell added.

For months, the European leaders and NATO officials have been feeding Kyiv with promises to accept Ukraine into the transatlantic alliance, as well as the 27-nation European Union, angering Moscow. [b]However, as soon as the Russian military operation started at the end of February, all the pledges faded away at once.[/b]

https://www.dailysabah.com/world/europe/west-made-mistake-in-promising-ukraine-nato-membership-borrell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2673467]You have so many theories.[/QUOTE]Yes and he's unable to realize that very often they're contradictory.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673470]As ex-President Jimmy Carter, Naval Academy Graduate and patriot opined in 2018: USA is the most war-mongering nation in history; it has been engaged in wars for all but 16 of its 242 years of existence.[/QUOTE]This is why I laugh out loud every time I hear an American president proclaim, "We are a peace-loving people". LOLOLOL! No, as an American myself who knows how to keep it real, what I understand is that we Americans a warlike people who have been repeatedly engaged in conflicts (large and small and remembered and forgotten and sometimes mostly unknown) for most of our history as a nation (plus before nationhood as well). That said, I'm not saying that has all been bad. There are times when you have to fight, when you need to fight, and when you should fight. But, we have been involved in some real "stinkers" too (Vietnam and Iraq for example). At the end of the day, I'm glad we still have the best military in the world verus "the bad guys" having that.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673470]As ex-President Jimmy Carter, Naval Academy Graduate and patriot opined in 2018: USA is the most war-mongering nation in history; it has been engaged in wars for all but 16 of its 242 years of existence.[/QUOTE]Mongolian? Rome was at war against Germanic tribes for 100% of its existence. Anyway, the point is that war mongering as used in this case is a bastardization of the term as any frontier nation will be perpetually "at war". The United States was for most of its existence, a frontier nation. And does Cold War count as actual war?

Anyway, I'll ask again, was Russia's security actually threatened? Has NATO ever had visions of "conquering" Russia? Who would? Why does Russia need Ukraine?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2673467]You have so many theories. Yet you got covid twice. BTW, still suffering from the ED that you were complaining before?[/QUOTE]All of the things I posted here can be found on the web if you search for it. I could even give you all the links to studies. But I love leaving you silly wits hanging. It's how I roll.

ED? Extended dick? Sure, but it's not something I would consider a suffering.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2673476]Yes and he's unable to realize that very often they're contradictory.[/QUOTE]Your very existence is contradictory. Contra dick.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673493]Mongolian? Rome was at war against Germanic tribes for 100% of its existence. Anyway, the point is that war mongering as used in this case is a bastardization of the term as any frontier nation will be perpetually "at war". The United States was for most of its existence, a frontier nation. And does Cold War count as actual war?

Anyway, I'll ask again, was Russia's security actually threatened? Has NATO ever had visions of "conquering" Russia? Who would? Why does Russia need Ukraine?[/QUOTE]For black sea and next USSR.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673470]This good guy versus bad guy narrative that seemingly exists everywhere is no different than "religion". They cannot all be correct, but 80 percent of the people on each side believe they are correct.[/QUOTE]And this is why you travel and actually talk to people in your travels. Americans are notoriously ignorant and geographically separated from other worldviews so we are especially at fault. Poor nations are also pretty bad about this as the people don't have the means to get around. Lastly, subpopulations such as avid mongers can also be pretty ignorant and perhaps unwittingly so because many only see the inside of brothels, Audis, and only speak to 22 year old hookers who don't know any better.

The first group may be ignorant to our ignorance because we constantly feed that America number one crap. The last group is often ignorant of our ignorance because we spend too much time locked away in fantasy land. To be both, well, we have to be extra careful.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673301]I will re-word for clarity. As the invading force, ofc Putin is to blame. Nothing justifies his actions, but as this NYT article suggests, USA and NATO are not entirely innocent when it comes to fanning the flames.

Former Defence Secretary Bill Perry against NATO expansion, 2016:

Former Ambassador to Moscow, George Kennan, "foremost Russian expert" against NATO expansion in 1998, predicting the events of February 2022:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/putin-ukraine-nato.html[/URL]

We can even re-frame it like this. Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife. Behind the scenes, Biden is telling Zelenskyy that she can come live with him. That emboldens Zelenskyy to mouth off to Putin. When Putin gives Zelenskyy a beating that sends her to the hospital, Biden is nowhere to be found.[/QUOTE]"Putin is the abusive husband. Zelenskyy is the battered wife".

Wow. And you are considered an intellectual among the CCP trolls. That is something.

Glad to see that CCP thugs can find amusement with nonsensical analogies while your nation's best friend Putin is killing thousands.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2670458]What is causing people to think that Putin is acting on his own? He has huge support in Russia for Russia's incursion into Ukraine.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/world/europe/ukraine-russia-families.html[/URL]

How do we know he has support? It is not as if there were credible, real time polls done in RU after the invasion. There is quite a bit of censorship and that was true even prior the war, nearly total since the invasion. Social media is pulling out.

And whether he has public support or not is somewhat irrelevant. He will power on.

But their economy is getting battered. Overnight, when their central bank was sanctioned, they lost access to more than half of their FX reserves which totaled $650 B. Some of their banks were pulled from Swift. Now, their energy and commodities are in danger of being banned from imports from the west. Their stock has been zeroed out in a mater of a few days. Sberbank, the largest Russian bank, is worth almost nothing now. Same fate befell most of their equities. They are sliding irreversibly into being a bigger, whiter version of NK, a client state of CCP China. No wonder the resident CCP thug Mac Adonis is working over time trolling on this site trying to make a case for the biggest sidekick of his fatherland.

In 20 years, Russian per capita GDP expanded quite nicely from less than $3 K in 1995 to nearly $12 K in 2019. Their people are used to a modicum of good life. This generation does not know how to live like they used to in 1960's. The effect of sanctions works with a time lag when it comes to common people but it does. Stocks are anticipatory and price in bad news months or even years ahead but the same is not true at the ground level. But don't be in any doubt that it will trpedo their economy. It has become a pariah. Should have been for many years, but now it is, firmly. Barring China, no one of consequence will touch them. Even CCP China, despite the rants of their resident troll thug Mac Adonis, is somewhat cautious. Most Chinese banks are refusing to process Russian transactions. Russia spans 9 or 10 time zones but soon they will not have any meaningful aviation thanks to most of the aircraft being foreign made and even foreign owned and supplies of all spare parts cut. The central government on the western edge will lose ever more control of their eastern flank which is already seeing more Chinese immigration. Now, Ru is a client state of China, and as Russian drink themselves to premature deaths, it will get occupied with more Chinese as time goes on. Again, this gladdens the hearts of CCP thugs and their resident agents like macA.

There's nothing worse than logical fallacies when it comes to misleading others, but such are readily employed by shady lawyers and politicians, and of course dictators. It's truly sad when we see Euros and even some Americans online pitching Putin's fanciful arguments verbatim. For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes. Those currently employed in Romania and Poland are non-nuclear, and defensive in nature with limited range.

"Finally, there is Putin's charge that the US has been planning to install missiles in Ukraine as a global-strategic-stability-destroying plan. But in truth, the missiles in question now stationed in Poland and Romania are weapons with conventional warheads and are anti-missile missiles with limited range. They cannot be converted into strategic ICBMs or IRBMs — as those are very different technologies. US officials argue the anti-missile missiles are in place largely to preclude the possibilities of a missile attack from Iran should it choose to target its now-developed strategic missiles northward — especially if they come to be fitted with nuclear warheads eventually."

[URL]https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-03-06-putins-invasion-of-ukraine-is-a-far-cry-from-the-1962-cuban-missile-crisis/[/URL]

The above articles also debunks several of Putin's other fantasies, regarding Neo-Nazi control of the government, yea right, and with Jewish president. And though Neo-Nazis exist in the Ukraine they only won 2% of the vote in the latest elections and no seats in parliament. Or that the current government is illegitimate in spite of democratic elections, etc. , all effectively debunked. Those with their minds already made up that just enjoy arguing on the internet won't read the article, except maybe to quote something out of context and erect a straw man. Others though likely will find it enlightening. Bottom line, NATO nor the Ukraine has posed any threat to Putin, other then to serve as examples of successful, functioning democracies close to him, and for his people to observe and aspire towards. That's the real problem, and a threat to his worldview and holds on power.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673331]That's exactly what it is though. The myths or "delusions" that you and McAdonis have bought into are exposed through the link below. Sad that anti-American propaganda, especially that which has been popular among many ungrateful Euros has found it's way into discussions of the most recent Russian butchery and attacks on freedom. There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.

[URL]https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. CCP thugs Murse and his boss Mac Adonis were never with the west or the civilized world. Their one and only allegiance was always to their pay master China. They were sent to live among the democratic nations as CCP 5th column and to spread the CCP invention Covid but yeah, from the beginning it was clear where their loyalty pointed to. And yes, Putin is a thuggish genocidal monster but CCP China is as much behind this Ukr invasion as Russia is. They knew in advance when it would happen and delayed it till their cursed CcPympics finished. They are the supply chain providers to Ru even as the rest of this planet cut off and shunned Ru and Putin. The only ones taking any payment from Ru and sending anything to Ru are the CCP thugs. And their reps on this forum Mac and Murse are doing their level best to support their country's bff Putin. Quite a pathetic duo.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673672]LOL. CCP thugs Murse and his boss Mac Adonis were never with the west or the civilized world. Their one and only allegiance was always to their pay master China. They were sent to live among the democratic nations as CCP 5th column and to spread the CCP invention Covid but yeah, from the beginning it was clear where their loyalty pointed to. And yes, Putin is a thuggish genocidal monster but CCP China is as much behind this Ukr invasion as Russia is. They knew in advance when it would happen and delayed it till their cursed CcPympics finished. They are the supply chain providers to Ru even as the rest of this planet cut off and shunned Ru and Putin. The only ones taking any payment from Ru and sending anything to Ru are the CCP thugs. And their reps on this forum Mac and Murse are doing their level best to support their country's bff Putin. Quite a pathetic duo.[/QUOTE]Even I most often don't agree with them, probably matter of culture, but many profiles Mursenary / escape and single profile MacAdo are not boss and follower, both from US. I have nothing against him but with his friends, on last time I saw him, I preferred to stay away from MacAdo and I drive from far with expensive gas for girls.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673633]Those with their minds already made up that just enjoy arguing on the internet won't read the article, except maybe to quote something out of context and erect a straw man..[/QUOTE]Seriously? The only thing that CCP troll Mac has ever done on this forum is to take snippets out of context from the posts of other members, twist them and create strawmen to fit the CCP agenda. That is the one and only tactic he has Ever shown from day one that I have seen from his posts. It is nothing new.

Mercenary Nurse, or Murse for short, is just a roughneck sidekick of Mac and brings up the muscle end of their partnership here.

There is no question this Ukraine invasion is a dress rehearsal of the Taiwan invasion that the CCP thugs have been planning for a while. Watch for Mac to start his next level of discourse on how China is justified in destroying and occupying Taiwan with a whole bunch of "what about xyz stuff " from the past. Murse as usual will mimic his boss Mac and serve to attack anyone who questions the CCP Mac troll.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673672]LOL. CCP thugs Murse and his boss Mac Adonis were never with the west or the civilized world. Their one and only allegiance was always to their pay master China. They were sent to live among the democratic nations as CCP 5th column and to spread the CCP invention Covid but yeah, from the beginning it was clear where their loyalty pointed to. And yes, Putin is a thuggish genocidal monster but CCP China is as much behind this Ukr invasion as Russia is. They knew in advance when it would happen and delayed it till their cursed CcPympics finished. They are the supply chain providers to Ru even as the rest of this planet cut off and shunned Ru and Putin. The only ones taking any payment from Ru and sending anything to Ru are the CCP thugs. And their reps on this forum Mac and Murse are doing their level best to support their country's bff Putin. Quite a pathetic duo.[/QUOTE]Shows your inability to read and differentiate people's differing stances. God you're a sad Racist homosexual.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673493]Mongolian? Rome was at war against Germanic tribes for 100% of its existence. Anyway, the point is that war mongering as used in this case is a bastardization of the term as any frontier nation will be perpetually "at war". The United States was for most of its existence, a frontier nation. And does Cold War count as actual war?

Anyway, I'll ask again, was Russia's security actually threatened? Has NATO ever had visions of "conquering" Russia? Who would? Why does Russia need Ukraine?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673633]There's nothing worse than logical fallacies when it comes to misleading others, but such are readily employed by shady lawyers and politicians, and of course dictators. It's truly sad when we see Euros and even some Americans online pitching Putin's fanciful arguments verbatim. For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes. Those currently employed in Romania and Poland are non-nuclear, and defensive in nature with limited range.

"Finally, there is Putin's charge that the US has been planning to install missiles in Ukraine as a global-strategic-stability-destroying plan. But in truth, the missiles in question now stationed in Poland and Romania are weapons with conventional warheads and are anti-missile missiles with limited range. They cannot be converted into strategic ICBMs or IRBMs as those are very different technologies. US officials argue the anti-missile missiles are in place largely to preclude the possibilities of a missile attack from Iran should it choose to target its now-developed strategic missiles northward especially if they come to be fitted with nuclear warheads eventually."

[URL]https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-03-06-putins-invasion-of-ukraine-is-a-far-cry-from-the-1962-cuban-missile-crisis/[/URL].[/QUOTE]It's like you're talking to random internet tropes than actual individual people and responding to the actual content of their posts. You have too many years to be posting this way, should know better.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2673573]For black sea and next USSR.[/QUOTE]Nope, Russia has always had access to the Black Sea. Ukraine changes nothing.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673633]...... For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes.....[/QUOTE]Cuban missile crisis: US set up missiles in Turkey, Russia decided to set up missiles in Cuba. US demanded no missiles in Cuba. Russia demanded no missiles in Turkey. US removed missiles in Turkey. End of Cuban missile crisis.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673626][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/world/europe/ukraine-russia-families.html[/URL]

How do we know he has support? It is not as if there were credible, real time polls done in RU after the invasion. There is quite a bit of censorship and that was true even prior the war, nearly total since the invasion. Social media is pulling out.

And whether he has public support or not is somewhat irrelevant. He will power on.

But their economy is getting battered. Overnight, when their central bank was sanctioned, they lost access to more than half of their FX reserves which totaled $650 B. Some of their banks were pulled from Swift. Now, their energy and commodities are in danger of being banned from imports from the west. Their stock has been zeroed out in a mater of a few days. Sberbank, the largest Russian bank, is worth almost nothing now. Same fate befell most of their equities. They are sliding irreversibly into being a bigger, whiter version of NK, a client state of CCP China. No wonder the resident CCP thug Mac Adonis is working over time trolling on this site trying to make a case for the biggest sidekick of his fatherland.

In 20 years, Russian per capita GDP expanded quite nicely from less than $3 K in 1995 to nearly $12 K in 2019. Their people are used to a modicum of good life. This generation does not know how to live like they used to in 1960's. The effect of sanctions works with a time lag when it comes to common people but it does. Stocks are anticipatory and price in bad news months or even years ahead but the same is not true at the ground level. But don't be in any doubt that it will trpedo their economy. It has become a pariah. Should have been for many years, but now it is, firmly. Barring China, no one of consequence will touch them. Even CCP China, despite the rants of their resident troll thug Mac Adonis, is somewhat cautious. Most Chinese banks are refusing to process Russian transactions. Russia spans 9 or 10 time zones but soon they will not have any meaningful aviation thanks to most of the aircraft being foreign made and even foreign owned and supplies of all spare parts cut. The central government on the western edge will lose ever more control of their eastern flank which is already seeing more Chinese immigration. Now, Ru is a client state of China, and as Russian drink themselves to premature deaths, it will get occupied with more Chinese as time goes on. Again, this gladdens the hearts of CCP thugs and their resident agents like macA.[/QUOTE]In addition, its going to be tough for Russians without KFC, Coke, McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2673859]In addition, its going to be tough for Russians without KFC, Coke, McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.[/QUOTE]I think an even worse issue for middle class Russians is that their credit cards no longer work. That's led to thousands of Russians being stranded overseas even. But with the ruble being reduced to pretty worthless, I wonder how many would be allowed by their card issuers to keep their credit cards in the first place? Hell, all of this could drive more Russian girls back into the clubs too. If they can even get there from mother Russia!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2673633]There's nothing worse than logical fallacies when it comes to misleading others, but such are readily employed by shady lawyers and politicians, and of course dictators. It's truly sad when we see Euros and even some Americans online pitching Putin's fanciful arguments verbatim. For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes. Those currently employed in Romania and Poland are non-nuclear, and defensive in nature with limited range.

"Finally, there is Putin's charge that the US has been planning to install missiles in Ukraine as a global-strategic-stability-destroying plan. But in truth, the missiles in question now stationed in Poland and Romania are weapons with conventional warheads and are anti-missile missiles with limited range. They cannot be converted into strategic ICBMs or IRBMs as those are very different technologies. US officials argue the anti-missile missiles are in place largely to preclude the possibilities of a missile attack from Iran should it choose to target its now-developed strategic missiles northward especially if they come to be fitted with nuclear warheads eventually."

[URL]https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-03-06-putins-invasion-of-ukraine-is-a-far-cry-from-the-1962-cuban-missile-crisis/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Considering that Pessimist agrees with you and combining this with his history of deriding you as my brainless lackey with the current nonsensical tirade of his, I'm guessing you can judge where your assertions lie on the spectrum of rationality.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2673859]In addition, its going to be tough for Russians without KFC, Coke, McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.[/QUOTE]We have to stop to buy Putin gaz and petrol which pay his army. We have to put blind Russia in starvation to force them to wake up and eat their dirty shameful tsar dictator. Bald German has to accept this, even difficult for economy, but we have to get rid of this dangerous or Berlin may be back in new USSR.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673796]Shows your inability to read and differentiate people's differing stances. God you're a sad Racist homosexual.[/QUOTE]LOL. Homo, Is that an insult? I guess in your native CcP dumpster land they still send gays to gas chambers? Meanwhile on this forum you perform a daily fellatio to your boss Mac with your comments.

I read you just fine, CCP shit dumpling! You and your ring master Mac have been going giddy with happiness at all the murders in Ukr. Why you thugs could not support this invasion and the upcoming Taiwan invasion from Chengdu or Hebei or wherever you come from is beyond me. Why invest our cities?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673799]It's like you're talking to random internet tropes than actual individual people and responding to the actual content of their posts. You have too many years to be posting this way, should know better.[/QUOTE]These CCP thugs think their Peking opera is cute. The master waves away the murder of thousands by comparing it to some mild domestic squabble, and the apprentice nurse chimes in with his inane analogy to cool crowds. They make the perfunctory "we are against the murder of thousands" disclaimer and then proceed to rationalize the Russian genocide by listing every imaginary thing the US and W European nations have ever done in their history. It is all a big fucking whatabout. The CCP master proclaims "all great nations (and he conveniently slides in his own native shitCCPland into that list) do dominate their neighbors, so what is new". Pardon me, I missed the last time US murdered several thousands in Mexico or Canada or even Jamaica. The apprentice shit dumpling (who gets all worked up when I said throat slashing Moslem thugs needed to be deported out of Eu) is happily providing a discourse on the ignorance of Americans (he uses "we" as if anyone believes this CCP thug can ever be mistaken for an American).

If these two thugs were still in their native CCPshitland, they would have been thrown into some shitty prison for so much as clearing their throats on wechat. Around here, safely in the middle of security and freedom provided by the west, they spout their treasonous venom against the west.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673691]Seriously? The only thing that CCP troll Mac has ever done on this forum is to take snippets out of context from the posts of other members, twist them and create strawmen to fit the CCP agenda. That is the one and only tactic he has Ever shown from day one that I have seen from his posts. It is nothing new.

Mercenary Nurse, or Murse for short, is just a roughneck sidekick of Mac and brings up the muscle end of their partnership here.

There is no question this Ukraine invasion is a dress rehearsal of the Taiwan invasion that the CCP thugs have been planning for a while. Watch for Mac to start his next level of discourse on how China is justified in destroying and occupying Taiwan with a whole bunch of "what about xyz stuff " from the past. Murse as usual will mimic his boss Mac and serve to attack anyone who questions the CCP Mac troll.[/QUOTE]Funny how Pessimist started as an overly (but obviously fake) polite personality but it took little effort from me to expose him as an overly emotional, yet somehow still robotic, scumbag. That's what happens when you become trained by artificial pleasantries.

It's an endless cycle of me revealing his overly emotional nature behind the mask of fake "intellectual" pleasantries. In the end, I think he likes being emotionally buttfucked. Probably why he keeps coming back. Tool.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673801]Nope, Russia has always had access to the Black Sea. Ukraine changes nothing.[/QUOTE]Ask Putin why he wanted Crimea and now Odessa? Just for artists and culture?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673166]Defensive alliance? NATO was involved in Yugoslavia, Libya, and Afghanistan. None of these countries attacked a NATO member. [/QUOTE]Wow, only CCP shits could ever include NATO involvement (in Bosnia, aiding the Libyan people against their butcher, and getting rid of Taliban post-911) and the current murder of dozens of thousands by their best friend Putin in the same sentence.

BTW, CCP shits may ignore conveniently but Libya acted as the supporting launch pad for terrorist attacks against NATO nations and people; as did AFG. So much for "None of these countries attacked a NATO member."

This CCP shit used to be glib. Full of shit, full of anti West venom, but glib. Now, he is just a full throated CCP thug, openly advocating for his country's murderous neighbor. Him and his nurse sidekick.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673911]These CCP thugs think their Peking opera is cute. The master waves away the murder of thousands by comparing it to some mild domestic squabble, and the apprentice nurse chimes in with his inane analogy to cool crowds. They make the perfunctory "we are against the murder of thousands" disclaimer and then proceed to rationalize the Russian genocide by listing every imaginary thing the US and W European nations have ever done in their history. It is all a big fucking whatabout. The CCP master proclaims "all great nations (and he conveniently slides in his own native shitCCPland into that list) do dominate their neighbors, so what is new". Pardon me, I missed the last time US murdered several thousands in Mexico or Canada or even Jamaica. The apprentice shit dumpling (who gets all worked up when I said throat slashing Moslem thugs needed to be deported out of Eu) is happily providing a discourse on the ignorance of Americans (he uses "we" as if anyone believes this CCP thug can ever be mistaken for an American)..[/QUOTE]You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673919]Funny how Pessimist started as an overly (but obviously fake) polite personality but it took little effort from me to expose him as an overly emotional, yet somehow still robotic, scumbag. That's what happens when you become trained by artificial pleasantries.

It's an endless cycle of me revealing his overly emotional nature behind the mask of fake "intellectual" pleasantries. In the end, I think he likes being emotionally buttfucked. Probably why he keeps coming back. Tool.[/QUOTE]What are you now, a fucking historian? How did you start? Oh yeah that's right, no one knows what was your first handle and how many times your fake handles changed. I bet your CCP shit dumpling personality has remained constant.

I am polite where needed. In the seeking thread, I am polite. I am polite to people that deserve that courtesy; CCP shits that infest foreign lands living on dole and spouting anti West hatred deserve no such considerations. That would include you and your master.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2673920]Ask Putin why he wanted Crimea and now Odessa? Just for artists and culture?[/QUOTE]Because he wants all of Ukraine for Russian prestige. He already had access to the Black Sea. That claim of yours has no merit.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673937]What are you now, a fucking historian? How did you start? Oh yeah that's right, no one knows what was your first handle and how many times your fake handles changed. I bet your CCP shit dumpling personality has remained constant.

I am polite where needed. In the seeking thread, I am polite. I am polite to people that deserve that courtesy; CCP shits that infest foreign lands living on dole and spouting anti West hatred deserve no such considerations. That would include you and your master.[/QUOTE]Manic episode over yet?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2673928]You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.[/QUOTE]May be that is true for Russians. No clue about NKans. The Chinese citizenry is very nationalistic and jingoistic. When their government incites them to turn super Xenophobic, they jump at that chance with alacrity. They will gladly burn Japanese cars, dump iPhones, send threats against foreigners / Chinese on wechat when asked by their CCP overlords, and are mighty proud of the suppression of minorities in China.

Due to the massive censorship (see the NYT article I attached), most Russian citizens may be unaware of the extent of the atrocities perpetrated by their killer ruler. Still, many are taking it to the streets against Putin and almost all the Russians on my Linkedin (1st and 2nd level) connections have been posting strong condemnation of Putin and the invasion (helps that most of them are outside RU). I feel for Russian people, they have never had a good ruler in history, but right now any sympathy and help the West can muster should necessarily go to the good people of UKR.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673945]Because he wants all of Ukraine for Russian prestige. He already had access to the Black Sea. That claim of yours has no merit.[/QUOTE]If Ukrainians are defeated, I wish not, but I wish they will kill gas pipeline like they destroyed bridges to Kiev. Putin is much more interested to be the master of Black sea for business than by poor Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2673928]You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.[/QUOTE]People in the USA are arrested or killed by government every day for protesting or filming police in the USA.

[URL]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60717902[/URL]

For obvious reasons, officials are only telling half the truth probably.

Most likely China has been supplying weapons and other key rations to Russia and Putin already. For all practical purposes, this invasion is as much the handiwork of China as it is of Putin soon.

Ru is a client state. NK and Little Kim do not take a piss w / o getting approval from Xi and China, and quite likely Putin got the OK from Xi and China to have invaded Ukr.

The blood of Ukrainian people is on the hands of CCP too. No wonder Mac Ado is working so hard to demonize the west and US in particular, bringing up any and every allegation from the past in a show of whataboutism.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2673986]If Ukrainians are defeated, I wish not, but I wish they will kill gas pipeline like they destroyed bridges to Kiev. Putin is much more interested to be the master of Black sea for business than by poor Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Disagree completely. Strategic position in the black sea does not change much with or without Ukraine. If it was more control of the Black Sea that they desired, they would fight to control Turkey, no Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2673928]You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.[/QUOTE]Every person's thinking is shaped by their country of birth and residence. The strong minded person can get out of that framework and think for himself.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2674040]People in the USA are arrested or killed by government every day for protesting or filming police in the USA.[/QUOTE]That's a lie. Please cite reliable sources of people in the US having their right to protest stopped by murder or arrest. (In the US any such arrests are typically voluntary as civil disobedience. Not the same at all.).

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2674256]That's a lie. Please cite reliable sources of people in the US having their right to protest stopped by murder or arrest. (In the US any such arrests are typically voluntary as civil disobedience. Not the same at all.).[/QUOTE]Sources?! LOL. From an obvious troll Dr PoonTang? That will be something. Most likely another CCP paid troll, working for 5 RMB an hour, employed to spread CCP's latest concoctions and lies. With 1. 3 billion hungry mouths to feed, they need a lot of jobs and these internet lie spreaders are among their better paid, more intellectual goons.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2673474]Haha, well I would say the emo kid so far has just shot his little brother, because he felt betrayed. And the cool kid made some promises of security to the little brother that emboldened him to sit at the cool kids table.

European Union's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Friday:[/QUOTE]My overlord, you've awakened the uptight robot. Did you advance the stick up his bum a couple inches too far?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2674282]My overlord, you've awakened the uptight robot. Did you advance the stick up his bum a couple inches too far?[/QUOTE]Touching devotion to your CCP master. Fooling no one with your lame retorts. Even Lindsey protests he is not Trump's appendage once in a while but is firmly attached to the fat whale's bum, as you are to the CCPMac's butt and both of you spreading the CCP garbage on this site (hopefully, you are getting paid).

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2673963]May be that is true for Russians. No clue about NKans. The Chinese citizenry is very nationalistic and jingoistic. When their government incites them to turn super Xenophobic, they jump at that chance with alacrity. They will gladly burn Japanese cars, dump iPhones, send threats against foreigners / Chinese on wechat when asked by their CCP overlords, and are mighty proud of the suppression of minorities in China.

Due to the massive censorship (see the NYT article I attached), most Russian citizens may be unaware of the extent of the atrocities perpetrated by their killer ruler. Still, many are taking it to the streets against Putin and almost all the Russians on my Linkedin (1st and 2nd level) connections have been posting strong condemnation of Putin and the invasion (helps that most of them are outside RU). I feel for Russian people, they have never had a good ruler in history, but right now any sympathy and help the West can muster should necessarily go to the good people of UKR.[/QUOTE]Chinese and Russians are scared of their government, so they prefer to play blind. MacAdo and Escape are from US, not CCP.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673875]Considering that Pessimist agrees with you and combining this with his history of deriding you as my brainless lackey with the current nonsensical tirade of his, I'm guessing you can judge where your assertions lie on the spectrum of rationality.[/QUOTE]Tell you what / who agrees with who. 95% of Western democracy populations agree that Putin is a murderous thug. CCP cell leader Mac agrees with the Chinese propaganda machine which has gone into overdrive in support of their latest stooge (and creating stories of their own about US running biological weapons production in UKR) and Comrade Mac is parroting their talking points. Apprentice Murse occasionally makes a show out of mildly disagreeing with his master but always comes around to lick Mac's behind. In the meanwhile, as described in the BBC article which itself linked to an FT scoop, China is preparing to send weapons to Russia to aid in the slaughter of Ukr, perhaps with the proviso that Ru will reciprocate when China likewise begins its own genocide in Taiwan. CCP master Mac is carefully preparing his talking points for these eventualities.

Now back to your lame retorts about robots, uptight, yadda yadda.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2674213]Disagree completely. Strategic position in the black sea does not change much with or without Ukraine. If it was more control of the Black Sea that they desired, they would fight to control Turkey, no Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Putin was instructed in USSR. For real facts, he already took Crimea from Ukraine, now aiming targeting Donbass and thinking so strongly about Odessa which is biggest harbor on black sea. Ukraine belong to USSR for him. Nothing about Turkey which is too far from Russia and much stronger.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2674368]Putin was instructed in USSR. For real facts, he already took Crimea from Ukraine, now aiming targeting Donbass and thinking so strongly about Odessa which is biggest harbor on black sea. Ukraine belong to USSR for him. Nothing about Turkey which is too far from Russia and much stronger.[/QUOTE]Taking those regions does not mean that there is a strategic benefit from it when one already had it. Reform USSR? Sure. To control Black Sea? No.

Turkey because they control Bosphorus for access to Mediterranean Sea.

I. E. Russian invasion of Ukraine is not for control of the Black Sea. Simple logic.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2674305]Touching devotion to your CCP master. Fooling no one with your lame retorts. Even Lindsey protests he is not Trump's appendage once in a while but is firmly attached to the fat whale's bum, as you are to the CCPMac's butt and both of you spreading the CCP garbage on this site (hopefully, you are getting paid).[/QUOTE]Someone smack C3 PO, he's malfunctioning again.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2674383]Taking those regions does not mean that there is a strategic benefit from it when one already had it. Reform USSR? Sure. To control Black Sea? No.

Turkey because they control Bosphorus for access to Mediterranean Sea.

I. E. Russian invasion of Ukraine is not for control of the Black Sea. Simple logic.[/QUOTE]Crimea taken from Ukraine, Donbass and now targeted Odessa which is biggest black sea harbor are good for liar Putin business. He target also Georgia, Moldavia, all around black sea. Who could stop him in black sea? Romania? Bulgaria? All belonging to his USSR, even as poor as Ukraine, but searching his past youth, when he should better clean is dirty brain. But he is scared of democracy close to him, because if Russians wanted democracy, then he is dead. Marina Ovsiannikova with Ukrainian father and Russian mother is a hero.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2674536]But he is scared of democracy close to him, because if Russians wanted democracy, then he is dead. Marina Ovsiannikova with Ukrainian father and Russian mother is a hero.[/QUOTE]There, that's a valid reason, not for control of Black Sea when taking over Ukraine does not change his position significantly from 1 month ago.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2674384]Someone smack C3 PO, he's malfunctioning again.[/QUOTE]3 PO is a beloved staple of our pop culture. You on the other hand are the CCP apprentice of an unreformed version of commie Asian Lando (sans Lando's good looks) that sells down his adopted country and rejoices in the death of many.

My stance aligns with this excerpt from an FT article three days before the invasion: "If war comes, Putin would of course deserve the blame and global opprobrium. Russia's threats are thuggish and dangerous. Yet as misguided as the Russian actions are, American intransigence regarding Nato enlargement is also utterly misguided and risky. "

George Kennan in 1998, architect of USA's containment strategy of USSR, Ambassador to USSR: "I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then the NATO expanders will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are but this is just wrong. ".

Faith Hill, Senior Director for Europe and Russia of the National Security Council warned Bush in 2008: "Putin would view steps to bring Ukraine and Georgia closer to NATO as a provocative move that would likely provoke pre-emptive Russian military action. "

Jack Matlock, Ambassador to USSR, testified before Senate in 1997: "Far from improving the security of the United States, its Allies, and the nations that wish to enter the Alliance, it could well encourage a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat to this nation since the Soviet Union collapsed. ".

Robert Gates in 2015, Secretary of Defense under Bush and Obama: "The Russians had long historical ties to Serbia, which we largely ignored. [B]Trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was truly overreaching.[/B] The roots of the Russian Empire trace back to Kiev in the ninth century, so that was an especially [B]monumental provocation[/B]. Were the Europeans, much less the Americans, willing to send their sons and daughters to defend Ukraine or Georgia? Hardly. So NATO expansion was a political act, not a carefully considered military commitment, thus undermining the purpose of the alliance and recklessly ignoring what the Russians considered their own vital national interests. [B]Similarly, Putin's hatred of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (limiting the number and location of Russian and NATO non-nuclear military forces in Europe) was understandable. [/B]"

Bill Burns, Ambassador to USSR, standing Director of the CIA appointed by Biden in March 2021, speaking about his Russian counterparts in 2008: "I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests."

Pat Buchanan prescient in his 1999 book: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation. "

William Perry, Robert McNamara, Henry Kissinger were all against NATO eastward expansion (or the pace of it). That is two Secretary of Defense and a Secretary of State. For those that do not know, the Secretary Defense is second in the military command structure, only under the President. Secretary of State implements foreign policy and is head of the State Department.

[B]All of the above are patriots. The ones who are still alive condemn this invasion. But all have been vocal critics of their government's foreign policy (NATO expansion).[/B] American politicians have continuously ignored the advice of its top diplomats. P&P would be happy to know that one of the above mentioned, Fiona Hill more or less refers to Putin as a madman.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2674641]There, that's a valid reason, not for control of Black Sea when taking over Ukraine does not change his position significantly from 1 month ago.[/QUOTE]Marioupol and Odessa make a big difference for him and also the gaz pipeline through Ukraine. I really wish Ukrainians will win but if they don t and I know how it will be difficult for them, but they have to destroy the pipeline and both harbors, to kill these business for Putin, just letting him a poor land, when EU have to make Russia broke with no value kopecks, forcing people for revolution because of him. Many Russians will die but they have to kill him.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2673493]Anyway, I'll ask again, was Russia's security actually threatened? Has NATO ever had visions of "conquering" Russia? Who would? Why does Russia need Ukraine?[/QUOTE]Those that are (or strive to be) global powers wish to control their geography so as to make themselves less vulnerable to foreign invasions. This video from 4:00 to 9:00 explains Russia's geography and the strategic military value of having Ukraine (Turgid and Cane might enjoy as well since they seem to have an interest in WWII and military): [URL]https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE?t=240[/URL].

The security concern is that a rival power could position forces and be arm's reach to Russia's major population centers. During a period of relative peace in the 1840's, USA under the Manifest Destiny improved their geography by extending the borders to both oceans. Having two large oceans on either side of you most definitely increases security (or reduces security concerns). Moscow is less than 500 km from Ukraine border, and 80 percent of the population is west of the Urals.

One, even if it is imagined, Russia does believe the West to be hostile (see my other post about top diplomats being aware that NATO expansion would be interpreted as hostile). Past invasions by Napoleon and Hitler probably fuel that paranoia. The latter wiped out 20 percent of its population and has shaped the modern Russian psyche. Two, security is also about preparing yourself for future hostilities. If you are to believe some on here, Europe will soon be overrun by Muslims who will make Western Europe a third-world shithole plagued with violence.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2674665]3 PO is a beloved staple of our pop culture. You on the other hand are the CCP apprentice of an unreformed version of commie Asian Lando (sans Lando's good looks) that sells down his adopted country and rejoices in the death of many.[/QUOTE]This dork is over here going on analyzing the merits of Star Wars characters. Geezus, you're that loser high school kid who went on to marry an ugly chick.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2674695]My stance aligns with this excerpt from an FT article three days before the invasion: "If war comes, Putin would of course deserve the blame and global opprobrium. Russia's threats are thuggish and dangerous. Yet as misguided as the Russian actions are, American intransigence regarding Nato enlargement is also utterly misguided and risky. "

George Kennan in 1998, architect of USA's containment strategy of USSR, Ambassador to USSR: "I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then the NATO expanders will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are but this is just wrong. ".

Faith Hill, Senior Director for Europe and Russia of the National Security Council warned Bush in 2008: "Putin would view steps to bring Ukraine and Georgia closer to NATO as a provocative move that would likely provoke pre-emptive Russian military action. "

Jack Matlock, Ambassador to USSR, testified before Senate in 1997: "Far from improving the security of the United States, its Allies, and the nations that wish to enter the Alliance, it could well encourage a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat to this nation since the Soviet Union collapsed. ".

Robert Gates in 2015, Secretary of Defense under Bush and Obama: "The Russians had long historical ties to Serbia, which we largely ignored. [B]Trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was truly overreaching.[/B] The roots of the Russian Empire trace back to Kiev in the ninth century, so that was an especially [B]monumental provocation[/B]. Were the Europeans, much less the Americans, willing to send their sons and daughters to defend Ukraine or Georgia? Hardly. So NATO expansion was a political act, not a carefully considered military commitment, thus undermining the purpose of the alliance and recklessly ignoring what the Russians considered their own vital national interests. [B]Similarly, Putin's hatred of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (limiting the number and location of Russian and NATO non-nuclear military forces in Europe) was understandable. [/B].[/QUOTE]You Commie bastard! How dare you question the narrative, hah!

But on a serious note, those are examples of Western advancements that contributed to the deterioration of Russian influence and positioning. But can you assign the world [B]blame[/B] or [B]fault[/B] to Western advancement? I don't so. Yes you can say that western policy led to this predicament but would you specifically assign "blame"?

Say a boss was a complete asshole at the work place and an employee comes in and shoots up the place. Is the boss to blame for the mass murder? No man, yes the boss's asshole behavior led the shooter to snap but in the end "blame" goes to the shooter for reacting inappropriately, much like Putin is doing.

So my position is that no blame goes to the west but recognize that western decisions did lead Putin down this path. So no fault or blame on the west and all blame on Putin.

Alaska was originally part of Russia so if Alaska decided to join Russia then the USA should just be ok with it according to current USA logic.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2674695]My stance aligns with this excerpt from an FT article three days before the invasion: "If war comes, Putin would of course deserve the blame and global opprobrium. Russia's threats are thuggish and dangerous. Yet as misguided as the Russian actions are, American intransigence regarding Nato enlargement is also utterly misguided and risky. "

George Kennan in 1998, architect of USA's containment strategy of USSR, Ambassador to USSR: "I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then the NATO expanders will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are but this is just wrong. ".

Faith Hill, Senior Director for Europe and Russia of the National Security Council warned Bush in 2008: "Putin would view steps to bring Ukraine and Georgia closer to NATO as a provocative move that would likely provoke pre-emptive Russian military action. "

Jack Matlock, Ambassador to USSR, testified before Senate in 1997: "Far from improving the security of the United States, its Allies, and the nations that wish to enter the Alliance, it could well encourage a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat to this nation since the Soviet Union collapsed. "..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2674020]My stance on conspiracy theories is this: The biggest trick devil ever pulled was convince you that they do not exist!

People do scheme you know LOL! The whole business world is built on conspiracies and also all our society, it is important to keep order!

Like look, I am more life experienced and international than most of posters here, I know world better because simply I travel more since young age, saw different cultures and experienced many things around the world both in west and east and other places, but many posters here are so opinionated with social and racial bias and it show their upbringing of how they got opinionated by something they have been brainwashed to believe and these guys tend to be very narrow minded! Many white people are like that and I do believe in G7, but they also have to believe that the days of white domination is long over and the world is more international and globalized, but some people who do not know the world tend to still believe in social and racial bias still LOL![/QUOTE]Of course conspiracies are the norm in every business meeting, and at every bar run. It is the function of Machiavellis The Prince. But what I meant was more that within these schemes and plots and strategy meetings, there are opinion leaders who are narcissistic and tend to think they more basics than they actually do. And these people are the stupid ones. The group usually don't want to argue with the opinion leaders for various reasons. So narcissism prevails. And as soon as one opinion leader leaves, most new ones attain narcissistic traits thinking they know more than they do as well. Which basically means they turn more stupid.

Only the minority admits that 99% of what they do are just experiments.

When it comes to white control of the world and the later part of your post, then that is related to the depopulation agenda. Of course the difference between people of different countries are mainly culturally based, and can quickly change, has nothing to do with genes or IQ etc (though maybe isolation, temperature or other external factors like food / medicine makes a difference).

But the west, and Japan (which essentially is an economically and manufacturally western country based in Asia) won't allow themselves to become dirt poor as the rest of the world rises. So depopulation of the world leaves more resources per head for those that are left. And that's what the UN Agendas are for, and perhaps the Great Reset and all the stages therein as well. Machiavellis The Prince in modern action.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2674821]I would say pandemic is over, but now we are fighting with the mind of masses called virus phobia that is no longer exit at least in its strength!

With all these restrictions in FKK, once you are in the room, you suck tongue, dick, pussy, asses etc LOL! How ironic LOL![/QUOTE]New BA2 Omicron version 2.0 is out which has caused 49% UK case surge and will be spreading to the USA and Germany ASAP. The pandemic is far from over. We are in overtime now.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2674812]Of course conspiracies are the norm in every business meeting, and at every bar run. It is the function of Machiavellis The Prince. But what I meant was more that within these schemes and plots and strategy meetings, there are opinion leaders who are narcissistic and tend to think they more basics than they actually do. And these people are the stupid ones. The group usually don't want to argue with the opinion leaders for various reasons. So narcissism prevails. And as soon as one opinion leader leaves, most new ones attain narcissistic traits thinking they know more than they do as well. Which basically means they turn more stupid.

Only the minority admits that 99% of what they do are just experiments.

When it comes to white control of the world and the later part of your post, then that is related to the depopulation agenda. Of course the difference between people of different countries are mainly culturally based, and can quickly change, has nothing to do with genes or IQ etc (though maybe isolation, temperature or other external factors like food / medicine makes a difference).

But the west, and Japan (which essentially is an economically and manufacturally western country based in Asia) won't allow themselves to become dirt poor as the rest of the world rises. So depopulation of the world leaves more resources per head for those that are left. And that's what the UN Agendas are for, and perhaps the Great Reset and all the stages therein as well. Machiavellis The Prince in modern action.[/QUOTE]We became dirt poor in 1945 due to crazy war, then it took us 35 years to become richest in the world by 1980's, then now rest in third place if China is telling the true number about their economy LOL! War is very stupid thing, but in some cases required like I believe in US military strategy, they do what they got to do, but it is for the stability of the world as oil is underneath strange behavior nations!

But look, I consider putin as smart guy in general, but when it comes to this war, it is becoming some kind of personal ball chicken race game LOL like biden sanctioned me, so I sanction Biden, they did this, so we do that kinda level cock fight LOL! In expense of many human lives!

NATO provoked it, putin bought the fight, but it is leading to some egoistic mess of bunch of old guys in both west and russia! I never thought I see this scale of war in europe in 21st century! But this ironically maybe good for monger as the worst economy goes better it is for us mongers!

With that being said, I think moscow may go back to early 90's when stunner young university girls tuting for very low price and I think having US dollars or euro can get us stunner girls for very reasonable price soon as russia going to be very poor country soon!

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2674712]Hello gentlemen,

Does anyone know what changes are to be expected in clubs due to restrictions being loosened?

Let's just use the land of Hessen for argument's sake.[/QUOTE]BA2 is in effect and causing covid to skyrocket as it is 80% more transmissible than Omicron. The covid pandemic is not over and will continue throughout 2022.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2674821]I would say pandemic is over, but now we are fighting with the mind of masses called virus phobia that is no longer exit at least in its strength!

With all these restrictions in FKK, once you are in the room, you suck tongue, dick, pussy, asses etc LOL! How ironic LOL![/QUOTE]Seems like the pandemic is just starting in Germany. I just read that current restrictions have been extended until 02.04.

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2674931]Seems like the pandemic is just starting in Germany. I just read that current restrictions have been extended until 02.04.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Apparently, it is over in Switzerland, so like in war time, let mongers be free in Switzerland with full swinging dick of ours LOL!

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2674775]Alaska was originally part of Russia so if Alaska decided to join Russia then the USA should just be ok with it according to current USA logic.[/QUOTE]Did Alaska ask? I doubt, when Putin kills children for his personal aim, not Russians who are just guilty to believe his liars, when he is just a paranoiac liar. World have to eliminate him, Russians have to wake up, when he send young Russian guys to death, just pieces of meat for him.

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2674931]Seems like the pandemic is just starting in Germany. I just read that current restrictions have been extended until 02.04.[/QUOTE]At the moment, only telling about Ukraine which is a very important problem, but covid didn't finish. Let s see on October / November. Now I only think about my ski tour on week ends.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2674366].....CCP cell leader Mac agrees with the Chinese propaganda machine which has gone into overdrive in support of their latest stooge ......[/QUOTE]One may say lots of things about Russia but calling it a stooge of China is patently mistaken.

Covid 19 has kept me at home and indoors for 2 years now. I've spent much of that time reading world history. The history of Russia is absolutely fascinating. I was never taught anything like that in school. Russia has been attacked and brutalized throughout their history. The Mongols almost wiped them out. However, somehow they prevailed then and on many other occasions. In recent history Napoleon tried and eventually suffered a bruising defeat which saved Europe from him. Same for Hitler who caused the death of about 27 million Russians. One thing that cannot be said about Russia throughout their entire history was that they were anyone's stooge. To be a stooge the country of which you are a stooge must be more powerful than you. If the rest of the world gangs up against Russia today and there is a war then it will be the end of the world.

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2674931]Seems like the pandemic is just starting in Germany. I just read that current restrictions have been extended until 02.04.[/QUOTE]I've been looking at the numbers, Germany is doing worse than any other country. This pandemic is weird. Hongkong is doing worse now than it has ever done since the pandemic began.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2674740]One, even if it is imagined, Russia does believe the West to be hostile (see my other post about top diplomats being aware that NATO expansion would be interpreted as hostile). Past invasions by Napoleon and Hitler probably fuel that paranoia. The latter wiped out 20 percent of its population and has shaped the modern Russian psyche. Two, security is also about preparing yourself for future hostilities. If you are to believe some on here, Europe will soon be overrun by Muslims who will make Western Europe a third-world shithole plagued with violence.[/QUOTE]There we go; now that's answering a question.

So key words: imagined, believe, paranoia. Modern Western policy generally does not directly encroach on the sovereignty of powerful nations, just weak or third world nations which is why I think Russia's security concerns are unwarranted, at least regarding western advancement. For powerful nations, the method of battle is through cultural or economic influence.

The incorporation of Russian-bordering nations into NATO was won by western political-economic influence rather than by hostility or aggression. It's like Russia is losing a board game and is now deciding to flip the whole game board over because they can't win by the rules and maintaining decorum.

Southern Muslim security concerns is a whole other matter, more domestic than international as Russia can control its own borders and policies of letting brown people into the country.

Some links from German media;.

[URL]https://www.expaturm.com/german-healthcare/freedom-day-in-germany/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Their excuse? It has still not been finally decided what the new Infection Protection Act should look like. It will not be voted on until Friday the 18th of March in the Bundestag[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thelocal.de/20220309/germany-to-keep-covid-safeguards-in-place-after-march-20th/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.news.de/politik/856176852/corona-massnahmen-ab-20-03-2022-freedom-day-verschoben-bundeslaender-bayer-brandenburg-lehnen-corona-lockerungen-ab/1/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rnd.de/gesundheit/corona-lockerungen-bei-hohen-inzidenzen-was-das-fuer-die-pandemie-lage-in-deutschland-bedeutet-A53WHWLV7ZHH7DRRHRPZKQ7S4E.html[/URL]

Run the last two through an online translator if you can't speak / read German.

Long story short: some German federal states are rebelling against lifting the CONvid restrictions. Hospitals are nowhere near max capacity, but the meaningless "cases" narrative is being pumped again.

Germans certainly like their fascist leaders and politicians; 1914,1933, DDR! LOL!

Warning: this is NOT certain yet and will depend on the vote on the 18th of March in the German Fuehrerbunker, ehh, Bundestag, see the quote from an article above. So far it looks like Hessen (Sharks, Oase, Palace etc) is not yet affected, but who knows what they will do. (Hessen is one of the more fanatical CONvid Fascism states when compared to for example Saarland, having previously locked down again in February when other states remained open.).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675022]One may say lots of things about Russia but calling it a stooge of China is patently mistaken.

Covid 19 has kept me at home and indoors for 2 years now. I've spent much of that time reading world history. The history of Russia is absolutely fascinating. I was never taught anything like that in school. Russia has been attacked and brutalized throughout their history. The Mongols almost wiped them out. However, somehow they prevailed then and on many other occasions. In recent history Napoleon tried and eventually suffered a bruising defeat which saved Europe from him. Same for Hitler who caused the death of about 27 million Russians. One thing that cannot be said about Russia throughout their entire history was that they were anyone's stooge. To be a stooge the country of which you are a stooge must be more powerful than you. If the rest of the world gangs up against Russia today and there is a war then it will be the end of the world.[/QUOTE]Yes, stooge was a mild exaggeration for now, for the purpose of ISG arguments which let's face it, are not academic debates.

That said, Russia is on the verge of becoming one.

RU is militarily powerful, true. Can they wipe out many people and in turn be wiped out? Yes. So can NK, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, many others. Once you know how to produce nukes, it is a matter of spending to make more of them, and the other part of the equation is delivery to a long distance destination in which case they can threaten anyone with extinction.

But does it all it take? Their economy today is a disaster, their currency is shot, and their technology besides armaments is non existent. If not for nukes, RU by the size of the economy, by per capita GDP, by various metrics of advancement, would be among the lower tier of nations. NK has nukes but many people starve to sleep every night, especially if not in the army. Does the ability to kill many people make NK superior to say, a Bulgaria, even Indonesia? I don't think so.

RU is a Chinese stooge because it is increasingly dependent on China to conduct their affairs. For supplies, for payments, for many other things. That gives China an enormous leverage over Russian affairs. There are even reports RU put off its invasion till the end of the cursed CCympics in China. To me, that makes Ru a stooge of China.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2674750]This dork is over here going on analyzing the merits of Star Wars characters. Geezus, you're that loser high school kid who went on to marry an ugly chick.[/QUOTE]Says the CCP midget with a bum shoulder whose mother worked as a tute to make a living according to multiple people who actually met him on this site. I hope you evolve to more than living in a car to afford entry to the clubs. As I said many times, you serve to bring the Asian immigrant averages down in the US.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675025]I've been looking at the numbers, Germany is doing worse than any other country. This pandemic is weird. Hongkong is doing worse now than it has ever done since the pandemic began.[/QUOTE]Because Hongkong was closed and just reopened. I don't think Germany is worst than US with 1 million covid deaths and probably many more unknown among so many millions without insurance and illegals.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675025]I've been looking at the numbers, Germany is doing worse than any other country. This pandemic is weird. Hongkong is doing worse now than it has ever done since the pandemic began.[/QUOTE]HK is via China, apparently in some cities in China, it is getting worse now too, but like this forum LOL there is censorship over freedom of speech and press in China by government, so we do not know the truth what is going on there! But in HK, there is some freedom of press left and it is international city, so we got to know the situation there!

But here in Tokyo, it is almost over, but all of us still wear masks and disinfect our hands etc upon entrance of shops and there is thermometer placed every entrance of building just in case as we believe when we loosen up, things get out of control just like in life and just like in German FKK LOL!

I do think, it is over soon though because virus is not as strong as it once used to be, it is becoming like influenza!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2675117]mother worked as a tute to make a living according to multiple people who actually met him on this site.[/QUOTE]I see I've pushed you to full psychosis. Hilarious. Sweet Victory.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2675098]Some links from German media;.

[URL]https://www.expaturm.com/german-healthcare/freedom-day-in-germany/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.thelocal.de/20220309/germany-to-keep-covid-safeguards-in-place-after-march-20th/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.news.de/politik/856176852/corona-massnahmen-ab-20-03-2022-freedom-day-verschoben-bundeslaender-bayer-brandenburg-lehnen-corona-lockerungen-ab/1/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rnd.de/gesundheit/corona-lockerungen-bei-hohen-inzidenzen-was-das-fuer-die-pandemie-lage-in-deutschland-bedeutet-A53WHWLV7ZHH7DRRHRPZKQ7S4E.html[/URL]

Run the last two through an online translator if you can't speak / read German.

Long story short: some German federal states are rebelling against lifting the CONvid restrictions. Hospitals are nowhere near max capacity, but the meaningless "cases" narrative is being pumped again.

Germans certainly like their fascist leaders and politicians; 1914,1933, DDR! LOL!

Warning: this is NOT certain yet and will depend on the vote on the 18th of March in the German Fuehrerbunker, ehh, Bundestag, see the quote from an article above. So far it looks like Hessen (Sharks, Oase, Palace etc) is not yet affected, but who knows what they will do. (Hessen is one of the more fanatical CONvid Fascism states when compared to for example Saarland, having previously locked down again in February when other states remained open.).[/QUOTE]Now Chicken Little reappears. Ugh, 2021 rerun.

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2674931]Seems like the pandemic is just starting in Germany. I just read that current restrictions have been extended until 02.04.[/QUOTE]Don't know about that. DW reporting today that it expects restrictions to be lifted this week despite an increase in cases. Apparently the FDP is in the driver seat.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2674775]Alaska was originally part of Russia so if Alaska decided to join Russia then the USA should just be ok with it according to current USA logic.[/QUOTE]Care to go back a few more centuries? Ru owned Alaska, US did Louisiana purchase from France and Mongols controlled large tracts of Ru and China. Perhaps Neanderthals will come back to life and claim all of Europe and Africans can claim all of this planet.

Look. All you revanchists and anachronists can live in a warped past but here and now, the murderous Russian thug is exterminating women and children in Ukr with the help of your CCP masters while you, and your fellow CCP thugs Mac and Murse can celebrate every such death as one more victory for your twisted goons.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675025]I've been looking at the numbers, Germany is doing worse than any other country. This pandemic is weird. Hongkong is doing worse now than it has ever done since the pandemic began.[/QUOTE]It is called comeuppance. CCP criminals leaked the virus on the rest of the world and promptly closed their doors. After 2 years and many dozens of millions of deaths and vaccines, rest of the planet is back to some semblance of normalcy while their Frankenstein virus is back to haunt the CCP criminals and their jingoistic population who have been celebrating all the deaths in other countries on wechat. A couple of them have been doing their celebratory dance right here on ISG while Western people died.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2675165]Don't know about that. DW reporting today that it expects restrictions to be lifted this week despite an increase in cases. Apparently the FDP is in the driver seat.[/QUOTE]So which one is the real news and fake news even on forum LOL!

I got sick of googling this G3, G2 or whatever those names give for the restrictions, it is confusing as new Iphone models and mobile phone networks and its services LOL!

What is the point of restricting in FKK when we end up sucking fucking in room sucking each others tongue and even sucking on each others anal LOL!

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2674740]Those that are (or strive to be) global powers wish to control their geography so as to make themselves less vulnerable to foreign invasions. This video from 4:00 to 9:00 explains Russia's geography and the strategic military value of having Ukraine (Turgid and Cane might enjoy as well since they seem to have an interest in WWII and military): [URL]https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE?t=240[/URL].

The security concern is that a rival power could position forces and be arm's reach to Russia's major population centers. During a period of relative peace in the 1840's, USA under the Manifest Destiny improved their geography by extending the borders to both oceans. Having two large oceans on either side of you most definitely increases security (or reduces security concerns). Moscow is less than 500 km from Ukraine border, and 80 percent of the population is west of the Urals.

One, even if it is imagined, Russia does believe the West to be hostile (see my other post about top diplomats being aware that NATO expansion would be interpreted as hostile). Past invasions by Napoleon and Hitler probably fuel that paranoia. The latter wiped out 20 percent of its population and has shaped the modern Russian psyche. Two, security is also about preparing yourself for future hostilities. If you are to believe some on here, Europe will soon be overrun by Muslims who will make Western Europe a third-world shithole plagued with violence.[/QUOTE]CCP thugs are funny animals. Throwing in a few disjointed links from cursory Google searches makes them intellectual arguments in their own minds, regardless of the nonsensical content. Then this CCP mole presents his coup de grace. It is the security fear, real or imagined does not matter. Thusly, his paymaster's stooge Ru is perfectly in rights to murder dozens of thousands merely because Ru imagines it has a security concern. It just has to imagine, and the thug is fully, morally justified to kill.

I suppose this is an elevation from the past position, I. E. Russia (battering and murdering thousands through missiles launches at residential buildings) is merely engaged in a lover's quarrel with UKR. The slightly overbearing hubby and the demure wifey, if you will.

This is the shape of CCP thug, in all his degeneracy. No wonder he sits there and celebrates the murder of thousands in own native land's provinces like Xinjiang.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675163]Now Chicken Little reappears. Ugh, 2021 rerun.[/QUOTE]The reported Omicron vaccine which was supposed to be out by now was a dud and didn't work any better than the old vaccine. So now everyone who caught BA1 (regular Omicron) will have to re-catch BA2 (new Omicron) and assuming a new mutation doesn't come out it might be over but judging from the past a new variant will emerge after that.

Denmark reports that BA2 has now taken over most of its cases and this will of course spread down the European continent to the rest of all of Europe and the world will now have to be infected with BA2.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2675117]Says the CCP midget with a bum shoulder whose mother worked as a tute to make a living according to multiple people who actually met him on this site. I hope you evolve to more than living in a car to afford entry to the clubs. As I said many times, you serve to bring the Asian immigrant averages down in the US.[/QUOTE]I sleep in my nearly and wish soon 600000 kms old lady when I sold electronics bad aldex quattro which tried to kill me, to go to brothels weekly, when who go as often than me? I wish I will find agreement with company to buy 2008 S5 atmospheric V8 4. 2 32 valves with manual gear box I would power with bioethanol and electronics prepared switching off speed limit for around 450 power only possible with manuel gear box, to reach 300.4 lines from airport to right curve before Sharks ausfahrt will be good for this.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2675124]Because Hongkong was closed and just reopened. I don't think Germany is worst than US with 1 million covid deaths and probably many more unknown among so many millions without insurance and illegals.[/QUOTE]You are correct, there are 2,000 people dying each day of covid in the USA! This is due to states not having mask requirement or distancing.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675163]Now Chicken Little reappears. Ugh, 2021 rerun.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha, so this IS the new username for the CCP Murse? What a pathetic life you must lead: checking ISG every 5 minutes and getting your little shrimp dick hard when someone replies to your troll message.

One more CCP troll for the ignore list! Adios sucker, I only deal with adults who can read and reason.

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2675409]I really hope you're right, because this is getting rediculous.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I'm popping my covid cherry in late May. But with only a single J&J shot and I already got the Rona, there's no Effing way I'm going to do a booster shot. Fauci can take his booster and shove it up his ass. If Deutschland is still a problem, I'm rolling into der Schweiz instead. Never been to Globe or Cleo and I'll put my $$ there instead.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2675420]Agreed. I'm popping my covid cherry in late May. But with only a single J&J shot and I already got the Rona, there's no Effing way I'm going to do a booster shot. Fauci can take his booster and shove it up his ass.[/QUOTE]The booster goes in the arm and not in the arsch. Also, Pfizer and Moderna are better than J&J. But since you already had the Rona virus oh well that yields antibodies too.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2675124]Because Hongkong was closed and just reopened. I don't think Germany is worst than US with 1 million covid deaths and probably many more unknown among so many millions without insurance and illegals.[/QUOTE]I meant the current daily figures.

Now that I am considering travelling again I think I should be vaccinated. I have a question for guys who have taken the vaccine. Are you able to fuck as much now as you were before taking the vaccine? Has the vaccine affected the number of orgasms you can ejaculate?

Of course not, you just feel tired one or two days that's all.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675434]Now that I am considering travelling again I think I should be vaccinated. I have a question for guys who have taken the vaccine. Are you able to fuck as much now as you were before taking the vaccine? Has the vaccine affected the number of orgasms you can ejaculate?[/QUOTE]I am vaccinated and even took the booster months ago. Yes, no problems whatsoever except some mild body ache the next day for an hour or two. I never heard of any connection between the vaccine and sexual activity / ability. I doubt there is any connection, not aware of any research on it and quite certain you will receive no advice of any value (except the usual insult laden rants from the CCP thug Murse and his boss Mac). Probably should ask your urologist or internist if have any concern. Or search through CDC site.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675432]I meant the current daily figures.[/QUOTE]Yes, still many covid deaths in Germany, nearly 300 yesterday. Not finished yet.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2675453]Of course not, you just feel tired one or two days that's all.[/QUOTE]After each time you have sex? Wow!

Germany now wants to procure F35 planes. And one of the reasons made by Olof Scholz was that it could carry nuclear weapons.

This thing doesn't seem to be over with the war in Ukraine. And China will soon take Russia's side.

When I consider beauty, I never look at fashion magazine (female audience). I only look at most popular pornstars (male audience). That would be the average I'd go by. So through the last few decades: Jenna Jameson, Jesse Jane, Elsa Jean. These were the most popular at their time (I think). Though some others are perhaps just as beautiful, or more. The average among these girls differ from the average fashion model in many ways.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2675345]Hahahaha, so this IS the new username for the CCP Murse? What a pathetic life you must lead: checking ISG every 5 minutes and getting your little shrimp dick hard when someone replies to your troll message.

One more CCP troll for the ignore list! Adios sucker, I only deal with adults who can read and reason.[/QUOTE]The lemmings are multiplying.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2675434]Now that I am considering travelling again I think I should be vaccinated. I have a question for guys who have taken the vaccine. Are you able to fuck as much now as you were before taking the vaccine? Has the vaccine affected the number of orgasms you can ejaculate?[/QUOTE]Sample size of one: 4 days after taking a booster, I flew to Germany and did a one hour room, finished 3 times in one hour, a record for me.

Pfizer, Pfizer, J&J, Pfizer.

Nothing in the literature or any medical guidelines to suggest any ejaculatory or erectile side effects.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2675546]Germany now wants to procure F35 planes. And one of the reasons made by Olof Scholz was that it could carry nuclear weapons.

This thing doesn't seem to be over with the war in Ukraine. And China will soon take Russia's side.[/QUOTE]Olaf is just another corrupt and hypocritical socialist, just do a search for "Cumex" and / or "Warburg Bank" + his name.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files[/URL] (I wonder who came up with that name, LOL).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or4x3zp4Sus[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jll7gjd_2gs[/URL]

Just imagine the amount of dirt that the CIA / NSA have on this guy, I wouldn't be surprised if they have all his emails, text messages and phone calls, just like they probably also had a copy of Merkel's Stasi files. Scholz is NATO's and the NWO's puppet and just like the trembling StasiMerkel he'll do as told by the Deep State.

CumEx owed E47 million to the Hamburg Tax Office, but the tax office 'forgot' to send out a letter. As mayor of Hamburg, Scholz was of course responsible, but his 'super strong' defence was that he doesn't remember anything, LOL! That's how high level corruption and socialism works: just say you don't remember, that way the tax office can harass the small business owner who doesn't have good political connections.

[URL]https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/cum-ex-olaf-scholz-aussage-finanzbeamtin-1.5375825[/URL]

German TV even poked fun of him not remembering anything and never taking any responsibility with the mock-verb "scholzing" implying to dodge responsibility and 'forgetting' crucial details that could land you into trouble: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3opyjSETDzc[/URL].

Basically Ollie Scholz is the German version of Biden: a senile and / or corrupt socialist puppet who loves the allure of power, private jets, limos and bodyguards, so that he's nice and controllable by the CIA and Deep State! / sarc.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2675420]Agreed. I'm popping my covid cherry in late May. But with only a single J&J shot and I already got the Rona, there's no Effing way I'm going to do a booster shot. Fauci can take his booster and shove it up his ass. If Deutschland is still a problem, I'm rolling into der Schweiz instead. Never been to Globe or Cleo and I'll put my $$ there instead.[/QUOTE]Take your money to Switzerland and fuck Zee woke Germans and their nut-job 'health' minister Klabauterbach. I have natural immunity but the Nazi Germans only recognize my natural immunity for 3 months while recognizing their shitty vaccine's immunity for 6 months. LOL!

If you're already immune compromised and / or suffering from major co-morbidities, the vaccine might be worth considering, but a normal healthy person shouldn't have too many problems in dealing with a Corona virus. I had Covid19 and I will admit that I was sick as a dog for 3-4 days (as I always am during a flu), but then I quickly recovered. On the other hand my vaxxed colleagues some of whom are half my age, were at home sick for 2-3 weeks, and when they returned to work they were a total wreck complaining of heavy fatigue. Interestingly enough, at work we didn't have any CONvid case during 2020 and the first half of 2021, but "cases" started to pop up once more and more colleagues got vaxxed towards the end of the summer 2021. May people (including the vaxxed) [U]deliberately[/U] got infected because we were forced into 3 G testing at work. The vaxxed colleagues who deliberately got infected simply didn't want to take the booster because they felt so fucked up after the first two shots.

This is how crazy the world has become: people deliberately infecting each other, in order to get their QR Yellow Star for work or travel!

Director of German health insurer BKK sent an emergency letter to the German authorities that the number of [I]reported vaccine[ side effects is probably only the tip of the iceberg:

[URL]https://tkp.at/2022/02/22/abrechnungsdaten-der-krankenkassen-belegen-sicherheitsdesaster-der-gen-impfstoffe/[/URL]

The letter of course gets ignored by the German version of the CDC (RKI), and the BKK director got fired, this is how the woke "science" works just like Germany's crazy Racial Hygiene Eugenic "science" from the 1930's. Different narrative, same fascist tendencies.

Many studies are also make it crystal clear that natural immunity is much better than vaxxed immunity, like that famous Israeli study: [URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/natural-immunity-was-more-potent-than-vaccines-during-us-delta-wave-study/[/URL].

Furthermore more and more (suppressed) studies suggest that CONvid1984 is perfectly treatable with a cheap dose of Ivermectin like the Brazilian study in the city of Itajai offering a tiny tiny tiny dose of Ivermectin to 200000 people with shocking results: [URL]https://youtu.be/Gz4adJXLHgA[/URL].

The way that the "science" the politicians, and authorities are all ignoring these studies, shows that this is all planned and deliberate.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675597]Sample size of one: 4 days after taking a booster, I flew to Germany and did a one hour room, finished 3 times in one hour, a record for me.

Pfizer, Pfizer, J&J, Pfizer.

Nothing in the literature or any medical guidelines to suggest any ejaculatory or erectile side effects.[/QUOTE]So you stay away from the larger Moderna shots? What a wuss!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675597]Sample size of one: 4 days after taking a booster, I flew to Germany and did a one hour room, finished 3 times in one hour, a record for me.

Pfizer, Pfizer, J&J, Pfizer.

Nothing in the literature or any medical guidelines to suggest any ejaculatory or erectile side effects.[/QUOTE]Also, injecting the shots on yourself, and up the ass in a doodoo doesn't really count.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675597]Sample size of one: 4 days after taking a booster, I flew to Germany and did a one hour room, finished 3 times in one hour, a record for me.

Pfizer, Pfizer, J&J, Pfizer.

Nothing in the literature or any medical guidelines to suggest any ejaculatory or erectile side effects.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I can deal with all stated side effects and even claims made by anti-vaxxers but I definitely don't want anything affecting Leroy's performance. Will be taking that first step towards getting out there again.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2675550]When I consider beauty, I never look at fashion magazine (female audience). I only look at most popular pornstars (male audience). That would be the average I'd go by. So through the last few decades: Jenna Jameson, Jesse Jane, Elsa Jean. These were the most popular at their time (I think). Though some others are perhaps just as beautiful, or more. The average among these girls differ from the average fashion model in many ways.[/QUOTE]Porn actresses are not image of beauty for me. I run away from such looks in FKK. At Sharks, a French guy I know from Bruggen joke when he see one, showing me to see my reaction when I m so happy when I see a fresh natural beauty only with flesh, but no tattoo nor piercing, looking like women I was used to. Only piercing on belly is sexy for me.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2675749]So you stay away from the larger Moderna shots? What a wuss![/QUOTE]Better than being a chump who actually gets covid with ensuing erectile dysfunction because of dumb ideologies.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2675834]Porn actresses are not image of beauty for me. I run away from such looks in FKK. At Sharks, a French guy I know from Bruggen joke when he see one, showing me to see my reaction when I m so happy when I see a fresh natural beauty only with flesh, but no tattoo nor piercing, looking like women I was used to. Only piercing on belly is sexy for me.[/QUOTE]Porn actress doesn't mean oversized lips, tattoos and oversized breasts. That just mean they are trying too hard.

Turgid: it's basically a propaganda war. The anti vaxxer meme crowds made tons of memes about the vaxx shrinking the dick. Then the pro vaxxer paid crowd made a weird study showing that covid causes ED and penis shrinkage. Where they even claimed it was due to the spike protein attaching to receptors on the dick. Well guess what, the vaxx is nothing but spike proteins. But the study forgot to mention that. Somehow the study was made in the same state where one of our forumers are working. So it is difficult to say really when the initial point is so low. And when they also were vaxxed in addition to getting covid.

When it walks like a Duck, and talks like a Duck. It's probably a spike protein.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675869]Better than being a chump who actually gets covid with ensuing erectile dysfunction because of dumb ideologies.[/QUOTE]I just came twice in one session. Been horny as fuck this past week!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2675948]I just came twice in one session. Been horny as fuck this past week![/QUOTE]Good, now go back to your sad cubicle and slave away to save up for another hooker.

Just like the Braun Nazi Volkssturm (armed bands of senior citizens and children) was created during the last months of World War 2 in a desperate attempt to fight the Allies when it was painstakingly obvious that Germany was going to lose the war anyway, today in 2022 the German Rainbow Nazi government desperately clings on to "The Final Solution of the Coronavirus Problem" when the whole world has realized that vaccines and silly masks don't work and has lifted restrictions.

Go to Belgium, Holland, France, UK, US, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and you'll see free citizens without crazy masks or QR Yellow Stars, but of course the German Rainbow Nazis know better and just like Don Quixote they keep on fighting windmills, preferring fascism over liberty.

Most German federal states have extended the Covid measures:

[URL]https://www.fnp.de/hessen/freedom-day-neu-hessen-corona-regeln-20-maerz-zr-91412251.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-bundeslaender-109.html[/URL]

Masks, 2 G and social distancing will remain in place for most German federal states (because they work so well despite the high "Incident Rate" LOL!) , in order to keep the FEAR alive so that the German Rainbow Nazis can overrule the Nuremberg Code and all the Dr. Mengele-Wannabe's in the German Parliament can pass their Holy Vaxx Mandates:

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code[/URL]

[QUOTE]Physicians were attracted to the scientific ideology and aided in the establishment of National Socialist Physicians' League in 1929 to "purify the German medical community of 'Jewish Bolshevism'.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]In response to the criticism of unethical human experimentation, the Weimar Republic (Germany's government from 1919 to 1933) issued "Guidelines for New Therapy and Human Experimentation". The guidelines were based on beneficence and non-maleficence, but also stressed legal doctrine of informed consent. The guidelines clearly distinguished the difference between therapeutic and non-therapeutic research. For therapeutic purposes, the guidelines allowed administration without consent only in dire situations, but for non-therapeutic purposes any administration without consent was strictly forbidden. However, the guidelines from Weimar were negated by Adolf Hitler. By 1942, the Nazi party included more than 38,000 German physicians, who helped carry out medical programs such as the Sterilization Law.[/QUOTE]Emphasis mine:

[QUOTE]"Medical Ethics in the 70 Years after the Nuremberg Code, 1947 to the Present". President and Rector Markus Muller writes in his introduction that the Code "constitutes one of the most important milestones in the history of medicine, providing for the first time a proper framework for research on human subjects. This milestone was not a voluntary, precautionary measure, but only came into existence in the aftermath of Nazi atrocities. [u]The Nuremberg Code became a cornerstone of clinical research and bioethics. [/u][/QUOTE]Not anymore: The Nazis are back in town!

P.S. Here's a brilliant example of Cognitive Dissonance at work: during my visit to Sharks I ran in to an American in the sauna and he remarked that "this was probably the safest place in Sharks" because the heat would "kill the virus. " Then about 1 hour later I saw him walking around the club without a mask just like 99% of all the visitors and WGs. LOL! These kind of dumb fucks can even vote?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676293]I feel like any sort of boasting about hooker achievements a bit sad. I mean, I enjoy banging hot women but boasting about getting "beauties", "stunners", and "9's" and "10's" is like an overly cologne'the man bragging about his cash and cars or a Finance dude bragging about his net worth.[/QUOTE]Or the CCP Murse bragging how many times he got banned from the site or how many sissy rants he posts in a day. Let us see. Do you have anything else that you can be proud of? Apart from how much butt licking you do to your boss Mac on sex forums?

Well actually they lifted the restrictions because the masks and the vaccines helped to limit the propagation of the virus but keep on living in your alternate reality.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2676352]Or the CCP Murse bragging how many times he got banned from the site or how many sissy rants he posts in a day. Let us see. Do you have anything else that you can be proud of? Apart from how much butt licking you do to your boss Mac on sex forums?[/QUOTE]Was a joke at first but now I think you seriously need a psych eval. Hallucinations, fabrication, and psychosis.

It's scary how feelings of inadequacies affects a man. Similar to a woman scorned, just a path of blind rage damning all facts and logic. In hopes that this sets you on the path to healing, "I apologize for having made you feel so small and inadequate."

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2676294]You are honest. In FKKs, we all fuck the same girls. Up until a few years ago, they all generally charged the same amount, 8's or 6's or what have you. I am sure you fucked the ones you liked; so did the other guys. When someone says they only go for 8's and 9's, all it means they fuck the girls they like. No one goes to the club and pays money to fuck someone they find unappealing.

I don't understand the point of bragging about quality (exclusivity) of girls one fucks in these sex factories. It is like bragging they only buy the best fruit at Walmart grocery.

If one is talking about girls outside these clubs, that is a different matter. The frame of reference is different for each person and impossible to make any sensible / credible comparisons.[/QUOTE]Basically my same points, except overly wordy as per usual.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2675954]Good, now go back to your sad cubicle and slave away to save up for another hooker.[/QUOTE]LOL what a rebound! Only gone for one Romanian here for over 3 years or so.

HammerTime: it's all about the energy, and always has been. Even the depop agenda (2030), green revolution into renewables and the the CO2 tax scam hoax.

The world doesn't have enough energy going forward.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676391]Was a joke at first but now I think you seriously need a psych eval. Hallucinations, fabrication, and psychosis.

It's scary how feelings of inadequacies affects a man. Similar to a woman scorned, just a path of blind rage damning all facts and logic. In hopes that this sets you on the path to healing, "I apologize for having made you feel so small and inadequate."[/QUOTE]LOL. You are adequate alright, with your $100 K networth at the age of 41 and having to sleep in cars to save a buck.

You know, if you had simply stayed back in your native CCP shitland instead of getting smuggled into the US, you might have been better off. Financially and otherwise.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676400]Basically my same points, except overly wordy as per usual.[/QUOTE]Typical Bsian fool; always looking for affirmation. What a sad life it must be.

Putin is getting nuclear arsenal ready. It would be a good tactical target to send a low yield nuclear missile to Eastern Ukraine in order to provide the buffer zone via radiation. And this would avoid the problem of getting NATO involved as likely immediate surrender by Ukraine would occur.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2676459]LOL. You are adequate alright, with your $100 K networth at the age of 41 and having to sleep in cars to save a buck.

You know, if you had simply stayed back in your native CCP shitland instead of getting smuggled into the US, you might have been better off. Financially and otherwise.[/QUOTE]Ah, it makes sense now. My finance boy net worth comment triggered you.

Once again, you continue to fabricate random theories of low finances and Chinese heritage while I continue to hit those sensitive truth centers that you're an emotional robot that's lies and cheats on his spouse, endangering his whole family's security because he's not man enough to say no to a little 25 year old pussy. Pathetic and weak. Bottom of the barrow human with white picket fence window dressing but rotten at the center.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2676413]LOL what a rebound! Only gone for one Romanian here for over 3 years or so.[/QUOTE]3 years of nearly no sex then? Or 3 years of banging ugly chicks? Non Romanian hookers? I know you're too unfortunate looking to pull good looking women, without kidnapping them anyway.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2676523]Putin is getting nuclear arsenal ready. It would be a good tactical target to send a low yield nuclear missile to Eastern Ukraine in order to provide the buffer zone via radiation. And this would avoid the problem of getting NATO involved as likely immediate surrender by Ukraine would occur.[/QUOTE]No way NATO will stay out of this conflict if Russia uses nuclear weapons.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676654]Ah, it makes sense now. My finance boy net worth comment triggered you.

Once again, you continue to fabricate random theories of low finances and Chinese heritage while I continue to hit those sensitive truth centers that you're an emotional robot that's lies and cheats on his spouse, endangering his whole family's security because he's not man enough to say no to a little 25 year old pussy. Pathetic and weak. Bottom of the barrow human with white picket fence window dressing but rotten at the center.[/QUOTE]If ever I needed lectures in morality, the last person I'd listen would be a CCP implant who roots for misfortune and death to befall on his adopted land. And you can be called CCP thug regardless of your ethnicity, it is based on your obvious hatred to all things / people West.

I'm raising 2 kids, prepaid for all their education to terminal degrees and if god forbid they don't succeed in life, even if they don't know it yet they will have a nice stream of income all their life and taken care of. This is in addition to several families that are making a living thanks to the business leadership of my partners and I'm one of them even if I am not the main one. When you contribute anything like that to other people, let us talk.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2675093]I visited Sharks a few weeks ago, and this is my initial assessment;..[/QUOTE]You are unvaccinated, complaining about a silly mask policy, delighting in others aren't complying while throwing in some Godwins Law, yellow star, levels of silliness. And you wonder why there is a lack of choice in women currently working and the ones that do are having to resort to tricks to earn.

No scientist has ever pushed a 'life will instantly return to normal' narrative, the more vaxxed just means less impact on healthcare. As least that lack of women working shows at least they are smart enough to not risk their health, even if their clients are.

Now that March 20 is here, did any of the rules changed at shark? Do you still need to take a test even if you are vaccinated?

Do you need to wear a mask? Did any thing changed. Hoping to arrive to sharks this Friday. Any advice for good time?

[QUOTE=Drorisol;2676899]Now that March 20 is here, did any of the rules changed at shark? Do you still need to take a test even if you are vaccinated?

Do you need to wear a mask? Did any thing changed. Hoping to arrive to sharks this Friday. Any advice for good time?[/QUOTE]No test if you are fully vaccinated, or fast test for 5€. No mask inside. Not very crowded on this Saturday, quite slow business, I didn't see any what I call specialists who turn in clubs to find best girls, when I saw some more on North, when they were at Sharks on 2021. More Asians than on 2021. Unfortunately not at best for casting on 2022. Few girls from 2021 are missing and make big difference, when some were for 100/60 and were the prettiest natural and best GFE. Wish for their return. More girls but not better looks than at Oase on previous week end, I even felt more interesting looks at Oase, even no wow compare to North.

When we speak more about Ukraine attacked by the shame for our world Putin we have to eliminate, but under less restrictions, covid and new BA2 are growing in Western EU, with still many cases and deaths even in Germany lately. So, I will never blame Germany to try to protect, even new law was a big failure with still AO and standard BBBJ. On our discovery, when we arrived on bed, my wow deep Rhur German without silicon nor Botox, told me: You are cute, I will lick you everywhere and each time she lick my not shaved balls, when I don't ask and don't like much, when I prefer to make her strong cum at 4.30 am when she started at 5 pm and full busy, or squirting. You know how to do she says.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2676779]If ever I needed lectures in morality, the last person I'd listen would be a CCP implant who roots for misfortune and death to befall on his adopted land. And you can be called CCP thug regardless of your ethnicity, it is based on your obvious hatred to all things / people West.

I'm raising 2 kids, prepaid for all their education to terminal degrees and if god forbid they don't succeed in life, even if they don't know it yet they will have a nice stream of income all their life and taken care of. This is in addition to several families that are making a living thanks to the business leadership of my partners and I'm one of them even if I am not the main one. When you contribute anything like that to other people, let us talk.[/QUOTE]Pffft, one person here has directly given free medical services to actual third world humans while the other is so selfish as to risk the breaking up of his family unit due to selfishness and and inability to control your pecker. Donate to blah blah charity, pay for spoil kids school, yada yada yada. You can't buy your way out of being a terrible head of house and a poor role model to your kids. Gross.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2676855]Initially, March 20 was planned for the end of all major covid19 restrictions.

However, After March 20, 2 G+ rule still apply in clubs. No idea for these brainless politicians.[/QUOTE]Just count daily covid deaths in Germany. I think lucky risky playfield brothels are allowed to open.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676935]Pffft, one person here has directly given free medical services to actual third world humans while the other is so selfish as to risk the breaking up of his family unit due to selfishness and and inability to control your pecker. Donate to blah blah charity, pay for spoil kids school, yada yada yada. You can't buy your way out of being a terrible head of house and a poor role model to your kids. Gross.[/QUOTE]Come on man. That's a typical hypocrite family man, you already knew that. Same like the guys who vote for politicians who close FKKs at the smallest possible chance, and then spends half of their spare time in FKKs or in mongering forums LOL.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676659]3 years of nearly no sex then? Or 3 years of banging ugly chicks? Non Romanian hookers? I know you're too unfortunate looking to pull good looking women, without kidnapping them anyway.[/QUOTE]You need to learn to read.

1. I said here.

2. I said Romanians in combination with here.

How many Romanians have you been with where you live for the past few years?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2677197]You need to learn to read.

1. I said here.

2. I said Romanians in combination with here.

How many Romanians have you been with where you live for the past few years?[/QUOTE]Ah okay, so hookers and ugly chicks it is.

China is reported to have a gender imbalance. There is also the same gender imbalance in the USA.

There is at least a deficit of 30 million women needed ASAP.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITbjC3meyIE[/URL]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2677208]Ah okay, so hookers and ugly chicks it is.[/QUOTE]Ok, so you have been with hookers and ugly chicks.

P.S: I don't name any woman a hooker. It is derogatory. But we know what a person you are.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2677361]China is reported to have a gender imbalance. There is also the same gender imbalance in the USA.

There is at least a deficit of 30 million women needed ASAP.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITbjC3meyIE[/URL][/QUOTE]I read somewhere that there is a deficit of 50 million women in India.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2677402]Ok, so you have been with hookers and ugly chicks.

P.S: I don't name any woman a hooker. It is derogatory. But we know what a person you are.[/QUOTE]Your illogical conversation flow matches all your other irrational points.

[QUOTE=Drorisol;2676899]Now that March 20 is here, did any of the rules changed at shark? Do you still need to take a test even if you are vaccinated?

Do you need to wear a mask? Did any thing changed. Hoping to arrive to sharks this Friday. Any advice for good time?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2676855]Initially, March 20 was planned for the end of all major covid19 restrictions.

However, After March 20, 2 G+ rule still apply in clubs. No idea for these brainless politicians.[/QUOTE]Yes I totally agree, these politicians especially in Germany, are totally brainless.

This was the original plan, but it was more or less obsolete as soon as it was presented, and already announced for 3 G in clubs from March 4th onwards. Run this through Goolag Translate if you don't speak German:

[URL]https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-stufenplan-lockerungen-maerz-100.html[/URL]

Of course none of this happened because the Rainbow love their fascism, and as far as I'm aware, the German 'lifting' of restrictions (after abandoning the original plan in the ZDF link above) never foresaw lifting 2 G+ or masks mandates in shops and places like Sharks.

[URL]https://www.swp.de/panorama/freedom-day-20-03-22-maerz-corona-lockerungen-regeln-ende-pandemie-massnahmen-62662461.html[/URL]

The problem now (as it's been throughout this entire Plandemic) is that almost nobody knows what the current set of rules are because of the many changes, and worse, they vary from federal state to federal state. The (deliberate?) incompetence is mind boggling, and the German 'health' minister has been caught in numerous lies: from exaggerating the effectiveness of the vaccines, to exaggerating the capacity problems in ICU wards. Unfortunately, as many times in history, the Germans never question their authorities and prefer a "strong man leader," even though these leaders might be total psychopaths as was the case with their Kaiser, their Fuhrer and their Communist Comrades.

I posted something in the general "Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus" thread so that everybody else can see (not just the people clicking on this Sharks thread), but unfortunately that thread has also been taken over by CCP-WEF trolls posting mindless bullshit in a desperate attempt to erase how wrong their predictions of 'freedom thanks to the super-effective mRNA vaccine' were.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus[/URL]!&p=2676154&viewfull=1#post2676154.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2677153]Come on man. That's a typical hypocrite family man, you already knew that. Same like the guys who vote for politicians who close FKKs at the smallest possible chance, and then spends half of their spare time in FKKs or in mongering forums LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, the hypocrisy and double standards are enormous: crying about a flu virus but then rimming and DKF-ing a WG who fucks multiple customers per day. LOL!

By the way in Sharks hardly anyone wears masks anymore, yet no one is getting sick or dying? Same for Denmark, Holland, Belgium, UK, USA, Norway, Sweden, Luxemburg: no more mask mandates and similar vaccination levels as in Germany, yet 'miraculously 'everybody is okay apart from the odd running nose. LOL! These countries are now getting MASSIVE levels of natural immunity thanks to Omicron, but the Rainbow-Nazis want to avoid that in Germany, making the slaves dependent on Big Pharma.

By the way, if you think that "the vaccine" is keeping those WGs safe, then just look at the low vaccination levels in Eastern Europe + the high levels of corruption and do the math. I'm sure the resident CoronaTard CCP trolls are too stupid for that, LOL!

Even the very pro-vaxx Dr John Campbell is becoming suspicious of the enormous levels of propaganda;.

[URL]https://youtu.be/YqTGD9LHe9g[/URL] (4th Pfizer dose for health 18 year olds, hahaha!

[URL]https://youtu.be/Gz4adJXLHgA[/URL] (very promising Ivermectin studies that are being suppressed).

Make sure to thank (and ignore-block?) the CCP-WEF trolls that have been misleading people here for 2 years.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2677153]Come on man. That's a typical hypocrite family man, you already knew that. Same like the guys who vote for politicians who close FKKs at the smallest possible chance, and then spends half of their spare time in FKKs or in mongering forums LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL. Look at this cute odd couple, Gino and Murse. Lecturing about morality, these twerps. One the KKK IT loser who got displaced by some visa dude, the other a CCP implant that sleeps in a car. If they were in a room, they most certainly would murder each other.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2677491]Your illogical conversation flow matches all your other irrational points.[/QUOTE]I asked you a question of your recent merits, and you replied with 'hookers and ugly chicks'.

My fault, I gave you entirely too much credit so we'll have to break it down:

[QUOTE=Pistons;2676413]LOL what a rebound! Only gone for one Romanian here for over 3 years or so.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2676659]3 years of nearly no sex then? Or 3 years of banging ugly chicks? [b]Non Romanian hookers? [/b]I know you're too unfortunate looking to pull good looking women, without kidnapping them anyway.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2677197]You need to learn to read.

1. I said here.

2. [b]I said Romanians in combination with here.[/b]

How many Romanians have you been with where you live for the past few years?[/QUOTE]Since you didn't pick up the option of "Non Romanian hookers," your retort was not logical. As such, your question of "merit" was not answered.

I said Non Romanian hookers. That implies whatever hooker you're illegally visiting wherever "here" is.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2677208]Ah okay, so hookers and ugly chicks it is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2677402]Ok, so you have been with hookers and ugly chicks.

P.S: I don't name any woman a hooker. It is derogatory. But we know what a person you are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2677491]Your illogical conversation flow matches all your other irrational points.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2677856]I asked you a question of your recent merits, and you replied with 'hookers and ugly chicks'.[/QUOTE]Natural flow of conversation led to me ignoring your irrelevant question but instead to indicate that you have seen only either non Romanian hookers or ugly chicks. Because you know, you're too ugly to pull decent chicks without using chloroform.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2677807]LOL. Look at this cute odd couple, Gino and Murse. Lecturing about morality, these twerps. One the KKK IT loser who got displaced by some visa dude, the other a CCP implant that sleeps in a car. If they were in a room, they most certainly would murder each other.[/QUOTE]I'm fairly certain that you're not in the position to call anyone a twerp. But yes, my accused and unsubstantiated CCP status puts my in a much better position to speak about morality than a confirmed adulterous finance douche.

At least Gino owns his racial positions without having to justify it with some counter balance good positions or buy his way out of guilt. An outright racist is more respectable than someone who hides behind a facade of superficial upstanding citizenry.

Mafia bosses have donated more to the church than the lowly pious poor but they're still hell-damned criminals.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2677977]My fault, I gave you entirely too much credit so we'll have to break it down:

Since you didn't pick up the option of "Non Romanian hookers," your retort was not logical. As such, your question of "merit" was not answered.

I said Non Romanian hookers. That implies whatever hooker you're illegally visiting wherever "here" is..[/QUOTE]Your biggest flaw in life is that you assume that you are leading any conversation. But you never are. I stated facts. And then asked a question. You were only supposed to answer the question.

Even more hilarious is the fact that you wrote that entire post.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2677807]LOL. Look at this cute odd couple, Gino and Murse. Lecturing about morality, these twerps. One the KKK IT loser who got displaced by some visa dude, the other a CCP implant that sleeps in a car. If they were in a room, they most certainly would murder each other.[/QUOTE]I don't know you but I find very good if you take care of your children, like a guy taking care of his wife is higher level for me than a guy paying in brothels or escorts. On this night, when no wow escort now in Paris, so I decided a 1200 kms go and back run to Rhur for my wow German when we are both night birds for sex, Balkanians can t compete now. No appointment, run at risk, if I didn't find her, I think way back would have been aggressive cleaning German autobahn. But she did welcome me. I asked her: do you want to be my present? Because a special room, I asked her if she could make one of my fantasy? Of course she always want to please, and she seems to try to please most, from quickie with Balkanians to long time rooms or multi orgasmic / squirting since she proposed me on discovery when I started to take care of her, and now like a little boy playing with a ball, I took 3 impressive warm shower on the bed in nearly 2 hours. Now we don t even change anymore bed, we swim. And now on lockers, she tells me: give me what you want, but I prefer high quality than grocery. Crazy special night between 2 working days for French Tom Kristensen and great reliable old lady until I wish S5 to improve for 300. If weather is good for free ride and I can resist to back pain, as I told her I should not return before end of April, so long time she said, when busy superstar.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2678035]Your biggest flaw in life is that you assume that you are leading any conversation. But you never are. I stated facts. And then asked a question. You were only supposed to answer the question.

Even more hilarious is the fact that you wrote that entire post.[/QUOTE]1. Apparently, autism spectrum prevents you from picking up on social nuances.

2. Illiteracy prevents you from picking up on the term "non Romanian hooker" which includes other hookers working in Burgen.

3. Asshats try to lead conversation. Pleasant humans converse equally and dynamically.

I found a very good article here on what we have discussed for awhile. And it seems to be quite in line with what I have been advocating also:

[URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/11/why-women-are-too-tall-and-men-are-too-short/265292/[/URL]

* Short women are much more reproductive. Meaning that they are darwinistically chosen as wives much more often by males.

* Average height men are the most reproductive (P. S. To the nurse: I am actually on the centimeter average height in my population).

* Gay men means that their female siblings might be very suited for reproduction. Meaning that they have a higher chance of being sexy. So maybe gays shouldn't be frowned upon at all. They might have a hot sister.

* Tall men with masculine features usually have ugly sisters who reproduce less.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2677985]I'm fairly certain that you're not in the position to call anyone a twerp. But yes, my accused and unsubstantiated CCP status puts my in a much better position to speak about morality than a confirmed adulterous finance douche.

At least Gino owns his racial positions without having to justify it with some counter balance good positions or buy his way out of guilt. An outright racist is more respectable than someone who hides behind a facade of superficial upstanding citizenry.

Mafia bosses have donated more to the church than the lowly pious poor but they're still hell-damned criminals.[/QUOTE]His key point was that you are chipped. You may not know it, but you are. I trust Pessimist has a lot of info he won't share with the rest of us. That is what I have learnt from talking a lot with him. Even though he never told me he was Pessimist, LOL.

- The problem with the racism Gino, KKK and other like you have is that they are based on the wrong accord. My racism however is 100% based on the beauty of the women in a population, and how good their women are at fucking. As well as the shape of their butt, tits and face.

- Your last point about mafia bosses are so ludicrous that only you manage to make it. Its like saying the super rich have donated money into charity. Well of course they have. Its a measure of protection in a world with growing differences. All history tells us is that the rich and greedy will eventually all be slaughtered by the poor unless they give back to society. I suspect the big mafia bosses knows this very well. Especially since they don't really have the protection of the police to save them like many of the super rich people who has played by the book have. This is also related to the plot on population reduction. As the growing number of poor people globally is a growing concern for the super rich. So the idea is to make everyone rich. (We will probably need a lot more robots in order to get there though).

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2677772]Yes, the hypocrisy and double standards are enormous: crying about a flu virus but then rimming and DKF-ing a WG who fucks multiple customers per day. LOL!

By the way in Sharks hardly anyone wears masks anymore, yet no one is getting sick or dying? Same for Denmark, Holland, Belgium, UK, USA, Norway, Sweden, Luxemburg: no more mask mandates and similar vaccination levels as in Germany, yet 'miraculously 'everybody is okay apart from the odd running nose. LOL! These countries are now getting MASSIVE levels of natural immunity thanks to Omicron, but the Rainbow-Nazis want to avoid that in Germany, making the slaves dependent on Big Pharma.

By the way, if you think that "the vaccine" is keeping those WGs safe, then just look at the low vaccination levels in Eastern Europe + the high levels of corruption and do the math. I'm sure the resident CoronaTard CCP trolls are too stupid for that, LOL!

Even the very pro-vaxx Dr John Campbell is becoming suspicious of the enormous levels of propaganda;.

[URL]https://youtu.be/YqTGD9LHe9g[/URL] (4th Pfizer dose for health 18 year olds, hahaha!

[URL]https://youtu.be/Gz4adJXLHgA[/URL] (very promising Ivermectin studies that are being suppressed).

Make sure to thank (and ignore-block?) the CCP-WEF trolls that have been misleading people here for 2 years.[/QUOTE]Ivermectin works. I have witnessed too many anecdotal cases close to heart to believe otherwise. The fact that the Feds are crushing pharmacies and even small compounding pharmacies to stop them from dispensing it is a crime against humanity. I hope Fauci eats shit and barks at the moon. BTW Dr. Campbell is a good source, IMO.

As always, focusing on the wrong points and missing the main idea, just like when you "report" findings from "sources" that actually say the opposite of what you claim.

If I am chipped then I guess I'll have to deal with that problem like the 80% of western adults that are. Funny how low vaccination is correlated with low education.

Glad to confirm that you and Pessimist share an obsession with me as evidenced by you feeding him bullshit narratives about me. But anyway, by your logic, your new boyfriend is also "chipped".

[QUOTE=Pistons;2678238]His key point was that you are chipped. You may not know it, but you are. I trust Pessimist has a lot of info he won't share with the rest of us. That is what I have learnt from talking a lot with him. Even though he never told me he was Pessimist, LOL.

- The problem with the racism Gino, KKK and other like you have is that they are based on the wrong accord. My racism however is 100% based on the beauty of the women in a population, and how good their women are at fucking. As well as the shape of their butt, tits and face.

- Your last point about mafia bosses are so ludicrous that only you manage to make it. Its like saying the super rich have donated money into charity. Well of course they have. Its a measure of protection in a world with growing differences. All history tells us is that the rich and greedy will eventually all be slaughtered by the poor unless they give back to society. I suspect the big mafia bosses knows this very well. Especially since they don't really have the protection of the police to save them like many of the super rich people who has played by the book have. This is also related to the plot on population reduction. As the growing number of poor people globally is a growing concern for the super rich. So the idea is to make everyone rich. (We will probably need a lot more robots in order to get there though).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2678238] My racism however is 100% based on the beauty of the women in a population, and how good their women are at fucking. As well as the shape of their butt, tits and face.[/QUOTE]Focus on all that without any consideration of a Frankenstein head is disingenuous at best. LOL.

Under still covid, rates are increasing in Western EU and masks are even already back in Austria. I wish Ukrainians will fuck dirty dictator Putin, the shame of beautiful Russia.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2678403]If I am chipped then I guess I'll have to deal with that problem like the 80% of western adults that are. Funny how low vaccination is correlated with low education.

Glad to confirm that you and Pessimist share an obsession with me as evidenced by you feeding him bullshit narratives about me. But anyway, by your logic, your new boyfriend is also "chipped".[/QUOTE]Lots of people may be chipped. Or tried to be chipped at least. I think some of the first versions might not have been 100% successful.

But you are chipped by the CCP. That's a bit different.

Divergent thinking theory says that the more educated someone are, the less divergent are their thoughts. Meaning that their thought patterns are easier to disrupt through means of propaganda. So you are actually right. But not in a good way. I do suppose perhaps psychologists and media people should at least know better.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2678475]Focus on all that without any consideration of a Frankenstein head is disingenuous at best. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL, so Escape Artist hired a boogeyman just as he considered me and Pessimist having discussed. But all Escape Artist again does is making conspiracy theories when two people share negative views on him. This is not the first time.

Paulie, so you are a Thai ladyboy then since you are taking Escape Artists side here?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2678229].....* Gay men means that their female siblings might be very suited for reproduction. Meaning that they have a higher chance of being sexy. So maybe gays shouldn't be frowned upon at all. They might have a hot sister.....[/QUOTE]I know three gay guys whose sisters are lesbians.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2678618]LOL, so Escape Artist hired a boogeyman just as he considered me and Pessimist having discussed. But all Escape Artist again does is making conspiracy theories when two people share negative views on him. This is not the first time.[/QUOTE]This is what happens when you're nice to a stray dog. One day I took pity on a socially awkward fellow and gave him some attention out of charity. I felt good about myself, like being nice to the dork in high school who had no friends and had to eat lunch by himself everyday. Now he gets obsessed with me and scorned that I casted him away. If he gets this obsessed with dudes, I wonder how creepy he gets when he stalks women.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2678475]Focus on all that without any consideration of a Frankenstein head is disingenuous at best. LOL.[/QUOTE]His head is shaped like an American football. Come to think of it, considering his social awkwardness in combination with the odd shaped head, he might actually be extraterrestrial.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2678721]This is what happens when you're nice to a stray dog. One day I took pity on a socially awkward fellow and gave him some attention out of charity. I felt good about myself, like being nice to the dork in high school who had no friends and had to eat lunch by himself everyday. Now he gets obsessed with me and scorned that I casted him away. If he gets this obsessed with dudes, I wonder how creepy he gets when he stalks women.[/QUOTE]Well you did it at least two times with creeps of this forum right?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2678665]I know three gay guys whose sisters are lesbians.[/QUOTE]Could be related to other factors than natural hormones then.

Maybe toxins causing hormonal imbalances? There are a few of these in plastics, furniture, frying pans and in some areas even added to drinking waters.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2678753]His head is shaped like an American football. Come to think of it, considering his social awkwardness in combination with the odd shaped head, he might actually be extraterrestrial.[/QUOTE]The Egyptian pharaos had elongated heads. Same has been seen in some claimed to be blue blooded royalties of Europe. Like a Princess from Ferrara in Italy. Maybe I have a few of Thors genes reappearing after several generation? Who knows. Although my hairstyle might exaggerate it slightly.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2678776]Well you did it at least two times with creeps of this forum right?[/QUOTE]Yeah, they're worse than stalker ex girlfriends.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2678753]His head is shaped like an American football. Come to think of it, considering his social awkwardness in combination with the odd shaped head, he might actually be extraterrestrial.[/QUOTE]I let 2 ex brothels friends now fighting here, when they met in brothels which are not places to make friends but more to experience jealousy between guys. But more than multi profiles, I don t see a cute face, as many girls tell me, touching my face or curly hair.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2678753]His head is shaped like an American football. Come to think of it, considering his social awkwardness in combination with the odd shaped head, he might actually be extraterrestrial.[/QUOTE]Got it!

[URL]https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/coneheads[/URL]

Food shortages are coming up. Russia and Ukraine provide food such as wheat and soybean oil.

The international trade of capitalism is a fake concept and each country will have to produce it own food and technology instead of relying on trade.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2678797]Although my hairstyle might exaggerate it slightly.[/QUOTE]That's called a receding hairline and that balding has been there since the age of 32. Probably way worse 5 years later. Definitely not helping that already unfortunate appearance.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2678920]I let 2 ex brothels friends now fighting here, when they met in brothels which are not places to make friends but more to experience jealousy between guys. But more than multi profiles, I don t see a cute face, as many girls tell me, touching my face or curly hair.[/QUOTE]What sort of heterosexual man would even ever consider describing another man's face as cute? Weirdo. Gay.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2679118]What sort of heterosexual man would even ever consider describing another man's face as cute? Weirdo. Gay.[/QUOTE]Don't think you are prettier, open your eyes. When I often look at me in clubs mirrors, girls say: You are pretty. Rather than gay, we could tell about size and powerful for sex, when I still have power at 5 am. I thought my Rhur DE was unbreakable sex machine sometimes during 10 hours, but on Wednesday night, our nearly 2 hours exhausted her a bit, when I drove 600 kms back to work and I worked whole Thursday.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2679072]That's called a receding hairline and that balding has been there since the age of 32. Probably way worse 5 years later. Definitely not helping that already unfortunate appearance.[/QUOTE]Nope, my hairline is like when I was 18.

You just have come to grips with me being superior to you in every way soon. It's a fact of life.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2678776]Well you did it at least two times with creeps of this forum right?[/QUOTE]That's funny considering the fact that you have made over 2000 posts on this site. You really should get a life, or at least a real job.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2678721]This is what happens when you're nice to a stray dog. One day I took pity on a socially awkward fellow and gave him some attention out of charity. I felt good about myself, like being nice to the dork in high school who had no friends and had to eat lunch by himself everyday. Now he gets obsessed with me and scorned that I casted him away. If he gets this obsessed with dudes, I wonder how creepy he gets when he stalks women.[/QUOTE]It's really sad and pathetic to see how you live your life in this forum and you are obviously desperate enough to stalk everyone that isn't running away from you.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2679241]Nope, my hairline is like when I was 18.[/QUOTE]Your forehead was that big when you were 18? Fuck, must suck having been so ugly since such a young age.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2679241]You just have come to grips with me being superior to you in every way soon. It's a fact of life.[/QUOTE]Bahahahhaa. Says the guy who stalked me sending WhatsApps messages everyday because I showed kindness and offered him lodging and shelter one night. Fuck dude, at least do what other ugly people do, compensate for that ugly appearance by making some decent cash. But you're too lazy to do that.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2679139]Don't think you are prettier, open your eyes. When I often look at me in clubs mirrors, girls say: You are pretty. Rather than gay, we could tell about size and powerful for sex, when I still have power at 5 am. I thought my Rhur DE was unbreakable sex machine sometimes during 10 hours, but on Wednesday night, our nearly 2 hours exhausted her a bit, when I drove 600 kms back to work and I worked whole Thursday.[/QUOTE]Geezus, 2 weirdos stalking me. You two get it in your heads, I don't like dudes. And I don't socialize with ugly dudes and dudes who look like Frankenstein's Monster and Bilbo Baggins. Especially a Bilbo who's so insecure that he feels he must justify himself by writing at least 10 lines bragging about fucking prostitutes and rubbing his balls on bicycles every other post. Fucking creepy weirdos. Be normal, at least try.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2679000]Food shortages are coming up. Russia and Ukraine provide food such as wheat and soybean oil.

The international trade of capitalism is a fake concept and each country will have to produce it own food and technology instead of relying on trade.[/QUOTE]There are many types of non-wheat bread and many types of non-soyabean oil. Why should that create a food shortage? What other foods are dependent on Russian and Ukrainian products?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2679374]There are many types of non-wheat bread and many types of non-soyabean oil. Why should that create a food shortage? What other foods are dependent on Russian and Ukrainian products?[/QUOTE]Ja, du kannst Gluten-frei essen, außer Weißbier! I was incredulous about German Guys drinking beer for breakfast, until I saw it with my own eyes. What a great country!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2679374]There are many types of non-wheat bread and many types of non-soyabean oil. Why should that create a food shortage? What other foods are dependent on Russian and Ukrainian products?[/QUOTE]This explains it quite well: [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60691116[/URL].

Wheat is used as animal feed. Increased transportation and operation costs for farmers. UK agriculture industry depends on seasonal workers from Ukraine.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2679339] I showed kindness and offered him lodging and shelter one night.[/QUOTE]LOL, I had almost forgotten about your weired fake story regarding that airbnb place you had rented.

Who invites a complete stranger into his Airbnb apartment anyway? I know I am good looking, but damn!

Masks back in Austria and Shanghai under Omicron which still kill and in Western EU.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2679513]LOL, I had almost forgotten about your weired fake story regarding that airbnb place you had rented.

Who invites a complete stranger into his Airbnb apartment anyway? I know I am good looking, but damn![/QUOTE]Yeah because a single person rents a 4 bedroom 3 bathroom Airbnb. God you're stupid.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2679513]LOL, I had almost forgotten about your weired fake story regarding that airbnb place you had rented.

Who invites a complete stranger into his Airbnb apartment anyway? I know I am good looking, but damn![/QUOTE]Not to mention ungrateful. Spoiled little ****.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2679606]Masks back in Austria and Shanghai under Omicron which still kill and in Western EU.[/QUOTE]Actually for Western EU, death rates have not been this low since November 2021, Germany included.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2679654]Not to mention ungrateful. Spoiled little ****.[/QUOTE]Aren't you going to rage now Willy boy?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2679829]Aren't you going to rage now Willy boy?[/QUOTE]All this pompous talk from someone who can't back anything up. I actually feel some pity for you, the same pity I have towards a dog with rabies that just needs to be put out of its misery.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2679862]All this pompous talk from someone who can't back anything up. I actually feel some pity for you, the same pity I have towards a dog with rabies that just needs to be put out of its misery.[/QUOTE]Oh the words. Are you sure you can handle it and not resort to swearing or violence now then? Like uncivilized boy at the Oscars who just like you have women issues?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2679775]Actually for Western EU, death rates have not been this low since November 2021, Germany included.[/QUOTE]Austrians may not agree with you when they put back mask. Maybe only crazy B Johnson with his daily still more than 200 deaths, when US had so many daily 11 September deaths since beginning of 2022. All my apologizes to Ukrainians, but covid still kill more daily than war, even I wish our world will succeed to make Russians get rid of their dirty Putin killing many civilians. Killing Putin would stop war, when vaccines didn't stop covid, nor Chinese lies when they put now Shanghai under lockdown, when they always claimed they had almost no deaths.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2679386]Ja, du kannst Gluten-frei essen, auer Weibier! I was incredulous about German Guys drinking beer for breakfast, until I saw it with my own eyes. What a great country![/QUOTE]So you are saying to make up for the wheat shortage we can drink beer?

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2680019]So you are saying to make up for the wheat shortage we can drink beer?[/QUOTE]To become fat, looking old early and bad breathe, when cyprine is tastier, some girls making kind of honey.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2679953]Austrians may not agree with you when they put back mask. Maybe only crazy B Johnson with his daily still more than 200 deaths, when US had so many daily 11 September deaths since beginning of 2022. All my apologizes to Ukrainians, but covid still kill more daily than war, even I wish our world will succeed to make Russians get rid of their dirty Putin killing many civilians. Killing Putin would stop war, when vaccines didn't stop covid, nor Chinese lies when they put now Shanghai under lockdown, when they always claimed they had almost no deaths.[/QUOTE]Good thing there are many many other countries in Western EU that seem to be enjoying low deaths, Germany being of most significance here. So no, not all of Western EU is having major problems as you suggest, with Austria being considered "Western EU" already being quite debatable.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2679898]Oh the words. Are you sure you can handle it and not resort to swearing or violence now then? Like uncivilized boy at the Oscars who just like you have women issues?[/QUOTE]Sometimes you have to be uncivilized around uncivilized people.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2680175]Good thing there are many many other countries in Western EU that seem to be enjoying low deaths, Germany being of most significance here. So no, not all of Western EU is having major problems as you suggest, with Austria being considered "Western EU" already being quite debatable.[/QUOTE]Each Western European know Austrians and Germans are brothers, more than with German Swiss. Still quite high rate and many deaths also in Germany and France. Covid still kill more than war, even I wish war will finish soon, but when will stop to kill covid?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2680214]Sometimes you have to be uncivilized around uncivilized people.[/QUOTE]That's what Will Smith said at the Oscars?

Pretty sure I got it from a girl during my trip last week. Happy with my decision still. Who else has had caught it from visiting the clubs?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2681684]That's what Will Smith said at the Oscars?[/QUOTE]Pretty he didn't but I suppose your brain in stumped for a response that shows some resemblance of actual entertaining creativity. And the beat marches on to same boring tune.

[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2681699]Pretty sure I got it from a girl during my trip last week. Happy with my decision still. Who else has had caught it from visiting the clubs?[/QUOTE]I think I caught it at Sharks last November just before lockdown 2 but I visited one day in February and last Wednesday without any consequences. Even more remarkable now as masks are not worn within the club.

[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2681699]Pretty sure I got it from a girl during my trip last week. Happy with my decision still. Who else has had caught it from visiting the clubs?[/QUOTE]Risky playfield. Better to know before visiting. Weak should think. When covid is still spreading in Germany.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2681821]Pretty he didn't but I suppose your brain in stumped for a response that shows some resemblance of actual entertaining creativity. And the beat marches on to same boring tune.[/QUOTE]Micropenis.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2683196]Or 1984?

How the entire war games of the Equatorial Front (Ukraine?) were a means of getting in cheap labor at the bottom of the food chain in all the 3 large nations....[/QUOTE]You are not including UK and France in that big 3? They do not want more immigrants especially if Jean Marie Le Pen wins in France.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684360]You are not including UK and France in that big 3? They do not want more immigrants especially if Jean Marie Le Pen wins in France.[/QUOTE]I feel that Marine Le Pen and crew will somehow find fewer objections to immigrants from Ukraine than from the Middle East and Africa.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684360]You are not including UK and France in that big 3? They do not want more immigrants especially if Jean Marie Le Pen wins in France.[/QUOTE]The 3 big nations of 1984: Oceania, Eastasia and Eurasia.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684360]You are not including UK and France in that big 3? They do not want more immigrants especially if Jean Marie Le Pen wins in France.[/QUOTE]By the way, it does not matter what the people want. The only thing that matters is what the ruling elite wants. Just watching the video clip I posted should have taught you this much.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684360]You are not including UK and France in that big 3? They do not want more immigrants especially if Jean Marie Le Pen wins in France.[/QUOTE]Jean Marie LE Pen will never be president of France.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2684337]Micropenis.[/QUOTE]Mega Loser.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2684507]Mega Loser.[/QUOTE]Funny pathetic brothels friends. Girls are so much more interesting than guys in brothels, even so few girls attract me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2684392]Jean Marie LE Pen will never be president of France.[/QUOTE]I find it interesting that the right wing leader of Hungary who recently won elections there is siding with Putin. Are the French people thinking that Jean Marie Le Pen will take Putin's side?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2684568]Funny pathetic brothels friends. Girls are so much more interesting than guys in brothels, even so few girls attract me.[/QUOTE]Of my half dozen brothel friends, that guy definitely pass the tryouts despite what he may told you in your girl gossips.

The pathetic part is your personal interest in the matter.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684718]I find it interesting that the right wing leader of Hungary who recently won elections there is siding with Putin. Are the French people thinking that Jean Marie Le Pen will take Putin's side?[/QUOTE]JM LE Pen is more than 90 yo. That's his daughter Marine who is running for presidency.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684718]I find it interesting that the right wing leader of Hungary who recently won elections there is siding with Putin. Are the French people thinking that Jean Marie Le Pen will take Putin's side?[/QUOTE]His daughter who compete for election was in relation with Putin, reason why French have not to vote for her, when the world have to get rid of dirty dictator Putin.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684718]I find it interesting that the right wing leader of Hungary who recently won elections there is siding with Putin. Are the French people thinking that Jean Marie Le Pen will take Putin's side?[/QUOTE]Russia is not strong nation, just nuclear weapons and army that was thought to be strong before turned out to be same level of north Korea, just more troops, but very unorganized more troops LOL! Russia had same range of economy size as south Korea, but now russia will be merely big north Korea with some oil and gas that is it and soon or later, russia will be pet nation of China LOL! China will eat russia for breakfast LOL!

But we mongers will be enjoying russian girls in dubai as that is the almost only place where they can tute soon as europe will be close for them, so it is all good for us mongers LOL!

What is most important is for G7 to stay close and tight! Most importantly G3 nations out of G7 must stay tight, G3 plus Australia as UK and Japan has good relation with Australia and australis is big enough normal nation!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2684360]You are not including UK and France in that big 3? They do not want more immigrants especially if Jean Marie Le Pen wins in France.[/QUOTE]France is second biggest nation in EU, but in global scale, France barely make it to top 5 nations, so it is not that significant in bigger picture, what is worrying is what to do with UK who should remain big nation and stay part of important G3 currencies nations to keep the domination by good 3 united nations going, so nice and fair enough order is the world!

It is simple math, do you prefer China or USA?

I and I hope most of the world prefer USA by far!

What important is China to self destruct like Russia just did, but Russia is not big enough nation to even consider economically, just nuclear weapon only and their military turned out to be just one big joke that is not military, but just a thug gang or bandit or something like that level.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2684784]Of my half dozen brothel friends, that guy definitely pass the tryouts despite what he may told you in your girl gossips.

The pathetic part is your personal interest in the matter.[/QUOTE]Sleep easy with your brothels friends, when I drive for so much more interesting, when I couldn't even recognize you at Sharks. What I like is I discovered a new club for me, noticed a really busy superstar, had to wait 8 hours to discover her, but after our discovery, she made free and went to me for top level in bed. If she had charm and elegance of some Romanians, when she has a bit of their sensuality in bed, she would be perfect. My good start of this year, much more important than guys. At Globe on Saturday, a guy came to kiss me, he wanted to hug me on several times, when I drive so many kilometers only for girls.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2684898]It is simple math, do you prefer China or USA?[/QUOTE]We can compare results of US vs China or Russia influence in countries that were split after a war. In both cases people starting with the same cultural and historical background, in both cases the country was completely destroyed during a war.

Let's look back how they evolved in time. North Korea vs South Korea. West Germany vs DDR.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2684893]Russia is not strong nation.....[/QUOTE]That's what Napoleon and Hitler thought.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2685119]That's what Napoleon and Hitler thought.[/QUOTE]History shows that the Ruskies do better when they are defending their home territory versus attacking somebody else's. They're better on defense overall than on offense.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2684976]Sleep easy with your brothels friends, when I drive for so much more interesting, when I couldn't even recognize you at Sharks. What I like is I discovered a new club for me, noticed a really busy superstar, had to wait 8 hours to discover her, but after our discovery, she made free and went to me for top level in bed. If she had charm and elegance of some Romanians, when she has a bit of their sensuality in bed, she would be perfect. My good start of this year, much more important than guys. At Globe on Saturday, a guy came to kiss me, he wanted to hug me on several times, when I drive so many kilometers only for girls.[/QUOTE]You do realize that we all go for the girls. However, I also go for the same girls as you plus others, plus finding other humans who enjoy my presence. So basically I get what you get and then more.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2685121]History shows that the Ruskies do better when they are defending their home territory versus attacking somebody else's. They're better on defense overall than on offense.[/QUOTE]In other words, same as the USA. But really, attacking is ten times harder unless one also get rid of the locals at the same time, or take them as wives. History has a lot of stories of this as well if you decide to look further back. The Egyptians (and before them the Atlanteans) had a different approach. They cut off the dicks of their opponents instead. Even the Israeli king Saul copied this from the Egyptians when commanding their men to cut off the dick of their enemies. All this leading later to circumcision for some reason.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2685121]History shows that the Ruskies do better when they are defending their home territory versus attacking somebody else's. They're better on defense overall than on offense.[/QUOTE]Cold always helped Russians a lot to defend when not many are able to live in cold, meaning less than minus 20 Celsius. But they have quite bad materials or organization to attack, but dirty dictator Putin is so crazy dangerous. I really wish Ukrainians with their courage and heroism will fuck him deep without lube.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2685119]That's what Napoleon and Hitler thought.[/QUOTE]They did not evolve since ww2, they are still stuck there military wise beside nuclear weapons which is old technology, but dirty, and as I said economically they were not rich before this war and now after the war, it is even worst LOL!

Only strength they have is willingness to be filthy in fighting with no honor, not even zero, but minus honors.

The world changed, but Russia remained with their blocked thinking and still are in ww2 or at its best soviet union LOL!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2685010]We can compare results of US vs China or Russia influence in countries that were split after a war. In both cases people starting with the same cultural and historical background, in both cases the country was completely destroyed during a war.

Let's look back how they evolved in time. North Korea vs South Korea. West Germany vs DDR.[/QUOTE]You cannot compare Russia and China, it is completely different level! Russia is not even big as south Korea economically before the war, China actually has huge economy and potential, but China too have messed up ideology and regime, so it is win situation for USA and even I think China is not telling the truth about their GDP and economical number so I do not think they are second biggest economy in the world, but I still do think China economically is same range as Japan even though as usual China maybe lying LOL!

Anyways, USA should be number one in the world forever both economically and military and in the worst case, Japan is part of USA, so this two and now UK is coming so close to Japan, so this trio in the future will dominate the world economically still and we are get along with similar mentality and as for military, we let UK and US do their thing and Japan should stay distance from their big bang theory LOL! It is not our interest to liberate people via bombing them LOL! We liberate people after US and UK bomb by building bridges, train system, all other technologies etc LOL! They bomb, we build after, then they come back after few decades later, then we build again, whatta trio LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2685121]History shows that the Ruskies do better when they are defending their home territory versus attacking somebody else's. They're better on defense overall than on offense.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they stay in that history and they prove to the world that they have one disorganized and weak army and air force LOL! As for navy, they only have one air craft carrier that is always broken and outdated LOL!

Anyways, it is 21st century, military is no longer the central core of foreign affairs, but there are some bandit nations they have not much to negotiate with beside natural resources that they do not even have know how to dig it up LOL and violence!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2685144]You do realize that we all go for the girls. However, I also go for the same girls as you plus others, plus finding other humans who enjoy my presence. So basically I get what you get and then more.[/QUOTE]For sure you don't go with same girls than me, except few. Look at your girls at Sharks on last July, I didn't go with any. I let you for the more with your brothels friends and here. On many times, guys who came to speak with me, made me miss some girls, wasting my time when hard work for me to find and create girls on my standard.

Omicron still spreading in Asia except Hong Kong, so no electronics for VAG, Renault and else, when I want to build a car with less electronics made in low quality cheap China which want to drive instead of us.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2685354]For sure you don't go with same girls than me, except few. Look at your girls at Sharks on last July, I didn't go with any. I let you for the more with your brothels friends and here. On many times, guys who came to speak with me, made me miss some girls, wasting my time when hard work for me to find and create girls on my standard.[/QUOTE]LOL, I have literally gone with all of the girls you've written about plus all of the other ones not mentioned here. And well, the ones you love are not always the best performers in bed. To think you are so special with such great taste, hah. In such a small narrow world you live.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685240]......Anyways, it is 21st century, military is no longer the central core of foreign affairs......[/QUOTE]Warfare has changed. Among the superpowers the military is not the weapon of destruction, it is the media. Infowars have been going on for some time now. Here indeed the US is also the world's leading superpower with CNN, Reuters, BBC (assists) and....... ISG. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2685360]Omicron still spreading in Asia except Hong Kong, so no electronics for VAG, Renault and else, when I want to build a car with less electronics made in low quality cheap China which want to drive instead of us.[/QUOTE]I think we are so different for behavior and in bed when I don't buy bad quality champagne in brothels, so, we can't experience same with same only few girls we had, when you can't go with all my girls, just visiting twice per year, when I m weekly on the playfield. And for sure, I don't go with most of your girls who are not pretty enough for me. Image and behavior / manners are the most important for me, to motivate my desire, then I work to make the girl improving following my game. Work even when they are busy superstar before I discover them, like my Rhur DE who makes now free for me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2685507]Warfare has changed. Among the superpowers the military is not the weapon of destruction, it is the media. Infowars have been going on for some time now. Here indeed the US is also the world's leading superpower with CNN, Reuters, BBC (assists) and....... ISG. LOL.[/QUOTE]Although 24-hour news and social media is a modern "weapon", the concept is not entirely new: "Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. " - Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

Aside from media, I would say foreign agents still play an active role in sowing discontent or destabilizing their adversaries. So while Antifa and Proud Boys are homegrown movements, it would be foolish to believe that there is not Russian, Chinese, or Iranian agents adding fuel to the fire. Of course, USA has also been involved in it's share of destabilization activities:

In 1953, the CIA worked with the United Kingdom to overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran led by Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh who had attempted to nationalize Iran's petroleum industry, threatening the profits of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, now known as BP. [B]Declassified CIA documents show that Britain was fearful of Iran's plans to nationalize its oil industry and pressed the U.S. to mount a joint operation to depose the prime minister and install a puppet regime.[/B] In 1951 the Iranian parliament voted to nationalize the petroleum fields of the country.

The coup was led by CIA operative Kermit Roosevelt, Jr. (grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt). With help from British intelligence, the CIA planned, funded and implemented Operation Ajax. In the months before the coup, the UK and USA Imposed a boycott of the country, exerted other political pressures, and conducted a massive covert propaganda campaign to create the environment necessary for the coup. The CIA hired Iranian agents provocateurs who posed as communists, harassed religious leaders and staged the bombing of one cleric's home to turn the Islamic religious community against the government. For the USA Audience, the CIA hoped to plant articles in USA Newspapers saying that Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi's return to govern Iran resulted from a homegrown revolt against what was being represented to the USA Public as a communist-leaning government. The CIA successfully used its contacts at the Associated Press to put on the newswire in the USA A statement from Tehran about royal decrees that the CIA itself had written.

[B]In August 2013 the CIA admitted that it was involved in both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda. The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government."[/B]

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intelligence_operations_abroad[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2685507]Warfare has changed. Among the superpowers the military is not the weapon of destruction, it is the media. Infowars have been going on for some time now. Here indeed the US is also the world's leading superpower with CNN, Reuters, BBC (assists) and....... ISG. LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree, and the best of inforwars kgb turned out to be a joke together with Russian military, more like Russian bandit LOL! I mean, it is 21st century now right? Or we went back to 1940's? LOL!

I would say warfare has changed to economical warfare, which by far is better than military warfare! It is more white collar and harder to be competent economically than stupid military!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2685556]I think we are so different for behavior and in bed when I don't buy bad quality champagne in brothels, so, we can't experience same with same only few girls we had, when you can't go with all my girls, just visiting twice per year, when I m weekly on the playfield. And for sure, I don't go with most of your girls who are not pretty enough for me. Image and behavior / manners are the most important for me, to motivate my desire, then I work to make the girl improving following my game. Work even when they are busy superstar before I discover them, like my Rhur DE who makes now free for me.[/QUOTE]Who only goes twice per year? You must have me confused.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2685837]Who only goes twice per year? You must have me confused.[/QUOTE]You fly weekly? Maybe from what you take, when only adrenaline for me. When avalanches quite big risks on last week end, when I want to live 1 more year to try to build my dreamed unique rocket on wheels, but I really wish on this week end I can free ride extreme Verbier on Mont Gelé , 3 Valleys with 4 Saulire steep corridors and La Grave with blind above Chancel lake corridor, to test if I still improve for resistance to intense violent effort at my age like on bicycle, then I'm sure I won't need viagra to fuck girls rather than buying champagne or chat. And if I survive, I need to return on next week end to Pers pass on top of Val the Isere and Lou lake and Tyrolienne spots in Val Thorens, to make my great tour and wish for Klein Matterhorn on right when you go out of tunnel, on July, but from Breuil. It. I have so many dreams to achieve, even almost not sleeping, but not enough time, when after covid stole my free time.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2685960]No. Yet that seems to be an irrelevant question as the point was the 2 times per year assertion was incorrect and I've gone with most of the girls you use to claim such great taste.

It's like talking to a retarded brick wall.[/QUOTE]You've gone with only few when you don't even know most and don't go in some clubs I go. I won't play follower about you, I don't go with your girls who are usually not pretty nor elegant enough for me. Did we go with same girls at Sharks on last Summer? Not what I saw, when not kissing and average face Gold Jessika or so long time, now fake blond and limited vagina Cosmina are not attractive for me. I find my girls only by myself and I try to make them good for me not to waste my money. Still working good for me on this year with 2 great discoveries. You also went with them? Or with Daisy Diamond who is much prettier on real, one of the prettiest at average looks casting Globe.

I wonder if followers in Mont Gelé fall then die on Verbier side among rocks when I never saw any in Zoncolan steep. So much easier for working girls, like Tortin side is easier than my dream since 3 years, and not only for 1 run nor 2, but I want to play for hours in my fall then die. I remember how staff looked at me on last time. Also wish not to meet staff on top of la Grave when Girose and Chancel steep corridors are also my playfields to feel to fly like a free bird and then feeling so alive.

But more important was Mockba ship was fucked and dive in black sea in front of Odessa Putin wants for his business. Well done Ukrainians, keep on, don't give up even in Marioupol.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685716]I agree, and the best of inforwars kgb turned out to be a joke together with Russian military, more like Russian bandit LOL! I mean, it is 21st century now right? Or we went back to 1940's? LOL!

I would say warfare has changed to economical warfare, which by far is better than military warfare! It is more white collar and harder to be competent economically than stupid military![/QUOTE]Only one country can successfully wage economic warfare and that is the US since world trade is conducted in US dollars and it is the world's biggest economy. The US has waged such warfare on Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua etc. And now Russia. Russia cannot retaliate in kind against the US. Its a one way war.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2686043]You've gone with only few when you don't even know most and don't go in some clubs I go. I won't play follower about you, I don't go with your girls who are usually not pretty nor elegant enough for me. Did we go with same girls at Sharks on last Summer? Not what I saw, when not kissing and average face Gold Jessika or so long time, now fake blond and limited vagina Cosmina are not attractive for me. I find my girls only by myself and I try to make them good for me not to waste my money. Still working good for me on this year with 2 great discoveries. You also went with them? Or with Daisy Diamond who is much prettier on real, one of the prettiest at average looks casting Globe.[/QUOTE]LOL, Kate, Kate, Ariana, Meagan, Kitty, Catelea, blah blah blah blah. It's easy to go with all your girls and still have time for more when you're old and only do one girl a day and repeat with the same girls all of the time. Simple math. I do all your girls on a single 10 day trip. You are not special. We all go with the same girls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2685507]Warfare has changed. Among the superpowers the military is not the weapon of destruction, it is the media. Infowars have been going on for some time now. Here indeed the US is also the world's leading superpower with CNN, Reuters, BBC (assists) and....... ISG. LOL.[/QUOTE]You do know that Reuters is also British right? AP is American.

Reuters bought out by Canadian company in 2008 making it a Canadian company, Thomson Reuters.

[QUOTE]Thomson Reuters was created by the Thomson Corporation's purchase of the British company Reuters Group in April 2008 and is majority owned by The Woodbridge Company, a holding company for the Thomson family.[/QUOTE]When being that annoying "well actually" kid goes wrong.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2686217]Only one country can successfully wage economic warfare and that is the US since world trade is conducted in US dollars and it is the world's biggest economy. The US has waged such warfare on Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua etc. And now Russia. Russia cannot retaliate in kind against the US. Its a one way war.[/QUOTE]Hey! Do not forget the robin in that batman USA equation, Japan LOL! Japan will always look the same way as USA and now UK may join such alliance, at least UK is moving so close to Japan and we welcome them, the best is when UK request Japan to join Japan lead TPP and we were like, ok, we would love you to join, but UK is not on pacific oceans, so TPP being trance pacific pact, how can UK being on Atlantic ocean join? And UK was like well Australia our common wealth is in pacific, so UK can join LOL! I mean they are pushing it, but it could be done I guess LOL!

It is important USA, UK and Japan to be always together and hopefully France will be with us, but France has some beef with UK and sometimes even with USA for some reason, so let us hope they stop that one day! France also tried with Nissan, but we arrested Carlos gohn and stop the nonsense and they backed off and somehow they upgraded Japan as partner nation after that, which is strange after trying to fuck us over and failed, I guess for reconciliation because we had good relation till this Macron guy came in! But now he is behaving well as he realize it is battle he won't win! And now Germany, they should stop being aggressive on EU nations! And stop doing this nonsense rely on Russia with trust as red communist nations cannot be trusted!

USA will and should always remain the world leader, but they too need to wake up and realize the world is changing and they need to get their act together especially the US military as unfortunately the world need their big bang theory and pull out the gun to get the dirty job that need to be done!

It appears that a prolific poster, full of medical epidemiology, lectures, flames and no small amount snarky, personal attacks when slighted (which was constant) is no longer here. The louder the drum, the more hollow, and judging from the frequency, too much time on his hands. Oh well, on we go.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686293]It appears that a prolific poster, full of medical epidemiology, lectures, flames and no small amount snarky, personal attacks when slighted (which was constant) is no longer here. The louder the drum, the more hollow, and judging from the frequency, too much time on his hands. Oh well, on we go.[/QUOTE]Those tight ass attack others and mumble about do not post this, do not post that like a police kid have left the forum fortunately! They were pain in the butt as FKK as it contain meaning of liberal and freedom should deserve free forum and my mindset is that if one do not like others post as he is talking about some fat girl he like or whatever, just skip it or interact and ask him why? In friendly manner!

We just have one who think is god of FKK is here, but that is the fixture who continue the usual mantra about mountain, bicycle, Audi quatro, ski trips and all the prostitutes who are somehow mistaken as real woman type princess girls in the man's head LOL! But it is good as it is funny to read such post to see how narrow minded one can be about the situation of monger in FKK LOL! We are all merely customers who is on the winning side of life as a man LOL!

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686293]It appears that a prolific poster, full of medical epidemiology, lectures, flames and no small amount snarky, personal attacks when slighted (which was constant) is no longer here. The louder the drum, the more hollow, and judging from the frequency, too much time on his hands. Oh well, on we go.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know, strange. But what mental trauma brought this along so randomly and unprovoked? Best advice is to get over it.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685970]I prefer upsell clubs because that is where I tend to find the girls who are **stunner** level beauty, I assume **stunner** go where the money is![/QUOTE]Bro,

You need to stop using this word in every other sentence. It's a weird word to describe prostitutes, and makes you sound like a desperate newb.

I've frequented FKKs on and off for many years before COVID, and I promise none of the ladies working in those places fit that description even then. Much less so now. Best looking FKK workers is a 7, 7.5 at best. You can keep feeding yourself fantasies that you're screwing 9-10 models, but you're not. And you will never find them at FKKs.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686293]It appears that a prolific poster, full of medical epidemiology, lectures, flames and no small amount snarky, personal attacks when slighted (which was constant) is no longer here. The louder the drum, the more hollow, and judging from the frequency, too much time on his hands. Oh well, on we go.[/QUOTE]Not sure if the same person but the only poster I had on ignore hasn't posted in more than six months. And before that he posted almost daily. Often criticizing P4P in general on this a monger website. Weird. Or maybe at near the end of life had a change of heart on how he lived.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686220]LOL, Kate, Kate, Ariana, Meagan, Kitty, Catelea, blah blah blah blah. It's easy to go with all your girls and still have time for more when you're old and only do one girl a day and repeat with the same girls all of the time. Simple math. I do all your girls on a single 10 day trip. You are not special. We all go with the same girls.[/QUOTE]But I don't go with girls I see you with, because they are not pretty enough to worth even only 50. I m not a follower you are, but You are not me to experience same than me when size also help, when Katalea was just wow on July and no look like her at Globe when she didn't put heavy make up. And my best I don t name now, because I protect them from being bullshit about me, when happened too often.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2686339]Bro,

You need to stop using this word in every other sentence. It's a weird word to describe prostitutes, and makes you sound like a desperate newb.

I've frequented FKKs on and off for many years before COVID, and I promise none of the ladies working in those places fit that description even then. Much less so now. Best looking FKK workers is a 7, 7.5 at best. You can keep feeding yourself fantasies that you're screwing 9-10 models, but you're not. And you will never find them at FKKs.[/QUOTE]So how am I supposed to react to this one? LOL! I sense bad personality and intention with your post LOL! Once in a while we get this kind of people and these type make the world bad places, there is nothing proud or superior being prick, try to be nice and you might get further in life and make the world a little bit better place LOL!

Well the hobby is just that, a bit of a lark for men with primal sexual needs society tries to channel. Partly Hollywood myths of "true" love as a carrot when we are young, dumb and full of cum and other stuff. Obviously you cannot build a society on brothels and no relationships in the real world. Many burn out, probably because the hobby takes over an otherwise hollow life and eventually depression sets in when they realize what they have become. You see that with drunk cheap charlies in Thailand who go and live there. One should not engage in schadenfreude. I hope the ex poster has found goodness in something else.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686293]It appears that a prolific poster, full of medical epidemiology, lectures, flames and no small amount snarky, personal attacks when slighted (which was constant) is no longer here. The louder the drum, the more hollow, and judging from the frequency, too much time on his hands. Oh well, on we go.[/QUOTE]The person you have in mind, the CCP shit dumpling Murse is still here, will always be here. It is easier to get rid of 3rd world bathroom stench than this Pangolin eater from this forum. Of course he predictably gets banned periodically but has a stash of pre cooked logins ready and waiting because he has no other life to speak of. These days he calls himself the Escape Artist (in his main handle; plus a few more side handles that we are not aware of yet) which is a weird name because this fucker is definitely not an artist of any kind nor has he escaped anywhere. At least his prior handle Mursenary, for Mercenary + Nurse was an honest description.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686263]Reuters bought out by Canadian company in 2008 making it a Canadian company, Thomson Reuters.

When being that annoying "well actually" kid goes wrong.[/QUOTE]Apparently you don't know how conglomerates work:

Reuters: British: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuters[/URL].

Thomson Reuters: Canadian: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Reuters[/URL].

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2686345]Not sure if the same person but the only poster I had on ignore hasn't posted in more than six months. And before that he posted almost daily. Often criticizing P4P in general on this a monger website. Weird. Or maybe at near the end of life had a change of heart on how he lived.[/QUOTE]Since I haven't put anyone on ignore even if I should have, I have to ask. Doesn't ignore make his posts invisible to you? Or are they still shown when others respons to them in quotes?

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686508]Well the hobby is just that, a bit of a lark for men with primal sexual needs society tries to channel. Partly Hollywood myths of "true" love as a carrot when we are young, dumb and full of cum and other stuff. Obviously you cannot build a society on brothels and no relationships in the real world. Many burn out, probably because the hobby takes over an otherwise hollow life and eventually depression sets in when they realize what they have become. You see that with drunk cheap charlies in Thailand who go and live there. One should not engage in schadenfreude. I hope the ex poster has found goodness in something else.[/QUOTE]We are all primal in the end. If we are not, there is something wrong with us.

The people travelling to Thailand just doesn't care any longer for social norms, or society around them. It is hilarious what you write in your post given the heritage of the poster you are referring to, but most non monger guys I know consider the world a place mainly to have sex in. Everything revolves around sex, even if wokeness culture is trying to teach us otherwise.

What you are referring to is that day when someone loses his libido. Now that's a sad day no matter where we live, or in which environment we reside in.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2686339]Bro,

You need to stop using this word in every other sentence. It's a weird word to describe prostitutes, and makes you sound like a desperate newb.

I've frequented FKKs on and off for many years before COVID, and I promise none of the ladies working in those places fit that description even then. Much less so now. Best looking FKK workers is a 7, 7.5 at best. You can keep feeding yourself fantasies that you're screwing 9-10 models, but you're not. And you will never find them at FKKs.[/QUOTE]But there have been stunners in FKKs. Some girls I have seen there have looked no doubt hotter than the posrnstars we have compared them to. Like Barbie at Wellcum who looked like Elsa Jean. Or others. But they have been slightly less easy to come by over the years. And one has to actively scout which manager is doing well in recruitment.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686508]Well the hobby is just that, a bit of a lark for men with primal sexual needs society tries to channel. Partly Hollywood myths of "true" love as a carrot when we are young, dumb and full of cum and other stuff. Obviously you cannot build a society on brothels and no relationships in the real world. Many burn out, probably because the hobby takes over an otherwise hollow life and eventually depression sets in when they realize what they have become. You see that with drunk cheap charlies in Thailand who go and live there. One should not engage in schadenfreude. I hope the ex poster has found goodness in something else.[/QUOTE]I would say the problems or truth lies in below point:

1) The society is more informed now, thanks to globalization and internet and more liberal society than before!

2) Love relations changed and such relation itself became like brothel like benefits of some kind based relation as the society became more capitalistic LOL!

3) Brothel and escort industry evolved and it is not like in movies where you only find ugly forced old girls, but we find stunner level young girls since around year 2005 ish till now and to be continue!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685979]It is called civilian control and I personally think it is very necessarily thing in society because some people need some guidance in life and the world we live in!

Religions are the first type of civilian control, it is lunatic stories they sell to you, but many people believe it to the extent they wage war about which imaginary figure is better than others basically LOL!

My religion is the best, mongering is my religion LOL! Stunners pussy, anal, tits and mouth fix a lot of things, the best healing LOL![/QUOTE]In China they call it feng shuei. In the west we sometimes call it brainwashing, propaganda, or where framed positive in a hood light: PR. But really it harms our intellectual capacity to think outside the box. This has clearly been shown in studies related to divergent thinking, where innovation is the main goal.

So in essence, in order to increase the innovation rate, or capacity of the world, we really should remove all these obstacles of what you call civilian control. As that only stems from feudal times and the dark ages where innovation was seen as heresy, and as they labelled it: enemies of the church.

Niccolo Machiavelli, who's literature still drives world governance really was just a parody of old dark age / feudal ways of running a country. Unfortunately it has been misunderstood for just that for too long, and now we see the downsides of that. I hope Elon Musk either takes over Twitter, or starts his own web 2. 0 company where we finally can have free speech. As that is impossible on any modern part of the internet today, maybe aside from Telegram. But that app is a bit too closed off.

The race in order to censor and control it's own people the most between China and the west, with Russia trying to up them both really is a disaster to watch.

I don't believe in conspiracies. I just believe in retarded people running the world.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2686411]But I don't go with girls I see you with, because they are not pretty enough to worth even only 50. I m not a follower you are, but You are not me to experience same than me when size also help, when Katalea was just wow on July and no look like her at Globe when she didn't put heavy make up. And my best I don t name now, because I protect them from being bullshit about me, when happened too often.[/QUOTE]Such relentless, illogical delusions of grandeur. Please go get professional psychiatric help.

Girls don't like fucking dudes who look like midget grand fathers.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686704]Such relentless, illogical delusions of grandeur. Please go get professional psychiatric help.

Girls don't like fucking dudes who look like midget grand fathers.[/QUOTE]100% insult.

0% content.

Stop posting off topic please.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2686749]100% insult.

0% content.

Stop posting off topic please.[/QUOTE]Hence "Rants and WTF" thread. Did I miss something or was I actually on topic? I think you're lost.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2686588]The person you have in mind, the CCP shit dumpling Murse is still here, will always be here. It is easier to get rid of 3rd world bathroom stench than this Pangolin eater from this forum. Of course he predictably gets banned periodically but has a stash of pre cooked logins ready and waiting because he has no other life to speak of. These days he calls himself the Escape Artist (in his main handle; plus a few more side handles that we are not aware of yet) which is a weird name because this fucker is definitely not an artist of any kind nor has he escaped anywhere. At least his prior handle Mursenary, for Mercenary + Nurse was an honest description.[/QUOTE]The fact that I'm building a legion of frustrated dorks who hate me make me so happy.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2686617]Apparently you don't know how conglomerates work:

Reuters: British: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuters[/URL].

Thomson Reuters: Canadian: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Reuters[/URL].[/QUOTE]Another case of posting links that don't support claims.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2686629]For reference, Barbie is the holder of the butt / back on the left in this picture:

[URL]https://gnocca.pro/media/kunena/attachments/3269/AD1B3376-C2BA-44B7-988A-3DCBE115886A.jpeg[/URL]

The middle is Lorena (still active), and Nia who I haven't spotted in awhile on the right. One is insanely picky if you rate any of these 3 less than a 9 on their best days. But Barbie was perhaps a 10. I just mention her and not maybe 10 other FKK girls because of the easy link some have made to well known Elsa Jean in looks. But I would argue she is or was even hotter. How good they are in the room is personal chemistry and other things, so that is totally different.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately some dudes from Dubai (sheiks or Russian oligarks?) Snatched up some of the top girls at Wellcum just prior to or at the start of covid.

But getting info from Dubai is hard. I am guessing it is kind of like how Marbella was a few years ago with 8-12 girls living in large harem mansions as micro brothels for the rich Russians. So I do wonder if we will see any spill offs from that now with all the sanctions.

They take their yachts, but what about their luxury villas in Spain? I know UAE doesn't want to sanction Russians though, so there is that as well. Kinda making western section a bit lame. Just like the oil sanctions are lame. None of them work as long as UAE, India and others don't give a damn.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686853]Hence "Rants and WTF" thread. Did I miss something or was I actually on topic? I think you're lost.[/QUOTE]Your insults don't qualify as rants when they have no content. They are just signed confessions of a personality disorder, and we've already figured that out.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686855]The fact that I'm building a legion of frustrated dorks who hate me make me so happy.[/QUOTE]Well actually some of them are different aliases of Bitumen so don't be too cocky.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2686621]Since I haven't put anyone on ignore even if I should have, I have to ask. Doesn't ignore make his posts invisible to you? Or are they still shown when others respons to them in quotes?[/QUOTE]It's been so long I had to go back and look. Yes when someone replied to him (ExpatLover) his posts showed up in quotes. So then I had to force myself to still try and ignore him LOL.

Only his original posts were empty - something like "you have chosen to ignore this person's posts"

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2686912]If this were true, then no one would ever want stunners. Also, if it were true, are you just going to pay to bang the ugly, fat, and old ones? No. At the end of the day, you can't predict what service you're going to get, and even if you could, you would still want to take your chance and only bang the ones you're attracted to. No one wants to pay to bang women they aren't attracted to, regardless of service.

I've mongered in several countries, FKKs are far from McDonald's. You want McDonalds, go to the red light district Eros center in Frankurt where the street smells like urine and you get the pleasure of walking up 15 steep flights of stairs to take your pick at overweight rude Bulgarians. Or you can try Amsterdam if you want McDonald's.

I have no problem referring to working women as "stunners or A team" as I would my favorite porn star to distinguish whether a place is worth visiting. Now, would I brag about screwing them? No. There's nothing to brag about, as mongers, many of us have already shagged a lot women. The only person I'm competing against is myself.[/QUOTE]This Cytek guy clearly never had good service in FKK, so for him, it is not good place, it happen to some mongers in FKK as you do need some charm, communication and negotiation skills in there and of course money LOL!

If you look at past posts of Cytek, he is on few threads like Artemis etc, basically trying to attack people saying how therma in Brazil and sauna in Macao is better and you do not know a thing till you get there, well suit himself, he like there, he should stay in those two places and also if he does not like FKK and thinks no good service is provided in FKK, then he simply did not get good service because of him and also girl, but all mongers know that FKK can get you amazing service to the extent they are putting their tongue in my ass LOL! Plus calling them top beautiful girl or stunner is just word game that he want to play like he does in another forum, for what? Just to be prick that get him high? Is mystery to me LOL I mean for what?

Ahh, you really got me, a forum guy with over 6 thousand posts. All your "charm" and "communication skills" and still the only way you can get laid in life is by paying a poor FKK girl from Romania. Or wait, sorry, I meant a "stunner". And then posting on ISG forums 15 times every day, like this is the only thing in life going for you. Glad you thoroughly researched my posting history too. Hope that was a time well spent. LMFAO.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2687038]This Cytek guy clearly never had good service in FKK, so for him, it is not good place, it happen to some mongers in FKK as you do need some charm, communication and negotiation skills in there and of course money LOL!

If you look at past posts of Cytek, he is on few threads like Artemis etc, basically trying to attack people saying how therma in Brazil and sauna in Macao is better and you do not know a thing till you get there, well suit himself, he like there, he should stay in those two places and also if he does not like FKK and thinks no good service is provided in FKK, then he simply did not get good service because of him and also girl, but all mongers know that FKK can get you amazing service to the extent they are putting their tongue in my ass LOL! Plus calling them top beautiful girl or stunner is just word game that he want to play like he does in another forum, for what? Just to be prick that get him high? Is mystery to me LOL I mean for what?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2687038]If you look at past posts of Cytek, he is on few threads like Artemis etc, basically trying to attack people saying how therma in Brazil and sauna in Macao is better and you do not know a thing till you get there, well suit himself, he like there, he should stay in those two places and also if he does not like FKK and thinks no good service is provided in FKK, then he simply did not get good service because of him and also girl, but all mongers know that FKK can get you amazing service to the extent they are putting their tongue in my ass LOL! Plus calling them top beautiful girl or stunner is just word game that he want to play like he does in another forum, for what? Just to be prick that get him high? Is mystery to me LOL I mean for what?[/QUOTE]I used to go to Macau sauna a lot, and while I did I saw it deteriorating fast. 2011-12 it was a lot of hot girls. Same level as German top FKKs in the top sauna. But in 2013-14 the quality dropped like a rock. And the hot new girls only worked in the karaoke instead. Where the managers made sure to hide them from western guys.

When it comes to the faces of FKK girls, that's all individual taste. But in my mind, a hot body always goes with a hot face. 100% of the time. It has nothing to do with being slim or fat, it is the tiny details.

As to phallus maximus: I think that is related more to how much joule they have built up. Some girls can be out of energy if they have a slight eating disorder. But slim girls who eat well are fine. Not everyone knows their balance too perhaps.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2686905]Unfortunately some dudes from Dubai (sheiks or Russian oligarks?) Snatched up some of the top girls at Wellcum just prior to or at the start of covid.

But getting info from Dubai is hard. I am guessing it is kind of like how Marbella was a few years ago with 8-12 girls living in large harem mansions as micro brothels for the rich Russians. So I do wonder if we will see any spill offs from that now with all the sanctions.

They take their yachts, but what about their luxury villas in Spain? I know UAE doesn't want to sanction Russians though, so there is that as well. Kinda making western section a bit lame. Just like the oil sanctions are lame. None of them work as long as UAE, India and others don't give a damn.[/QUOTE]Do not expect human right from UAE, India and all the related emerging nations, they do not care! Even in Asia, it is only Japan who sanction Russia and now Russians are saying Hokkaido belong to Russia LOL! Will Japan Russia war comes back from early 1900 as history repeat itself LOL!

But it is good they say that because US ambassador to Japan the former mayor of Chicago I think want Japan to up our military budget to 2% from 1 % of GDP, so this whole thing put pressure on left wing here to agree LOL!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2686697]In China they call it feng shuei. In the west we sometimes call it brainwashing, propaganda, or where framed positive in a hood light: PR. But really it harms our intellectual capacity to think outside the box. This has clearly been shown in studies related to divergent thinking, where innovation is the main goal.

So in essence, in order to increase the innovation rate, or capacity of the world, we really should remove all these obstacles of what you call civilian control. As that only stems from feudal times and the dark ages where innovation was seen as heresy, and as they labelled it: enemies of the church.

Niccolo Machiavelli, who's literature still drives world governance really was just a parody of old dark age / feudal ways of running a country. Unfortunately it has been misunderstood for just that for too long, and now we see the downsides of that. I hope Elon Musk either takes over Twitter, or starts his own web 2. 0 company where we finally can have free speech. As that is impossible on any modern part of the internet today, maybe aside from Telegram. But that app is a bit too closed off.

The race in order to censor and control it's own people the most between China and the west, with Russia trying to up them both really is a disaster to watch.

I don't believe in conspiracies. I just believe in retarded people running the world.[/QUOTE]I went to Beijing and I stayed at regents Beijing and there were many lamborghinnis, ferraris and rolls royce in front of the hotel, so I asked the door man, aren't you guys supposed to be communists? What is that? He replied, No sir, we are socialists sir LOL! So socialist are rich, not communist, what the hell is the difference LOL!

I read the Machiavelli the prince and also listend to 2 pac album called Machiavelli LOL! It is as good as art of war, but chinese could not fight in world war 2 and my understanding of communist nations is that they cannot fight in organized format and they are not good fighters as you can see Russia in Ukraine LOL! They are not army, but bandits with weapons that they do not know how to utilize LOL!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2687245]I went to Beijing and I stayed at regents Beijing and there were many lamborghinnis, ferraris and rolls royce in front of the hotel, so I asked the door man, aren't you guys supposed to be communists? What is that? He replied, No sir, we are socialists sir LOL! So socialist are rich, not communist, what the hell is the difference LOL!

I read the Machiavelli the prince and also listend to 2 pac album called Machiavelli LOL! It is as good as art of war, but chinese could not fight in world war 2 and my understanding of communist nations is that they cannot fight in organized format and they are not good fighters as you can see Russia in Ukraine LOL! They are not army, but bandits with weapons that they do not know how to utilize LOL![/QUOTE]They send new reinforcements into battle ASAP instead of building up and making big pushes. So much stupidity from Russian officers that I don't really know if they want to loose, or are just bad at what they do. Probably the latter. There aren't that many paved roads in Ukraine. Should really be easy. But yeah, either they totally suck, or there is some ulterior motif (like the 1984 hypothesis).

[QUOTE=Pistons;2686697]In China they call it feng shuei. In the west we sometimes call it brainwashing, propaganda, or where framed positive in a hood light: PR. But really it harms our intellectual capacity to think outside the box. This has clearly been shown in studies related to divergent thinking, where innovation is the main goal.[/QUOTE]So now we're redefining the term "feng shuei (sic)"?

Feng Shui is just a superstitious way of arranging inanimate objects to flow with universal energies. Has nothing to do with propaganda. Clearly mistaken, again.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2686955]Your insults don't qualify as rants when they have no content. They are just signed confessions of a personality disorder, and we've already figured that out.[/QUOTE]"Or WTF are you talking about".

Good news for me though, I have no panties or sticks stuck up my butt.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686704]Such relentless, illogical delusions of grandeur. Please go get professional psychiatric help.

Girls don't like fucking dudes who look like midget grand fathers.[/QUOTE]Girls don't fuck, I fuck them rather than drinking low level champagne and they can feel my real size inside of them, even 180 supermodel was over her limit, but she asked for repeating, like most girls who know me, when they could choose others. Maybe you are not able to see bodies reactions which can't lie. I even discovered squirting in brothels and again yesterday at Imperium Swiss. When I never saw you with a beauty, but only writing here, when I only believe what my eyes see and remember what you wrote about Miss Sharks face, not really logical to go with her.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2687365]So now we're redefining the term "feng shuei (sic)"?

Feng Shui is just a superstitious way of arranging inanimate objects to flow with universal energies. Has nothing to do with propaganda. Clearly mistaken, again.[/QUOTE]Is your CCP chip malfunctioning now? Clearly there must be an error somewhere if you haven't received that update to their propaganda yet. Don't you know that everything they say in official channels are just universal flows of energy?

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686859]Another case of posting links that don't support claims.[/QUOTE]Go back to kindergarten please!

I suppose in your world Sky and Fox are Australian TV channels. Let's leave it at there then.

I guess Rupert Murdoch sold Sky in 2018, but until then at least. So it doesn't change my main point.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2687882]I guess Rupert Murdoch sold Sky in 2018, but until then at least. So it doesn't change my main point.[/QUOTE]Fun fact, Australian born Rupert Murdoch has not been an Australian citizen since 1985. At the time, Australia did not allow dual citizenship when Murdoch elected to become a naturalized American citizen. Let's also add that Fox Corp which operates Fox News is actually still majority owned by Murdoch. You must have been confused with 21st Century Fox.

Gosh, so many wrongs in a single week. How incompetently embarrassing for someone who claims to know so much.

Murdoch along with family trust owns nearly 80% of class be shares but doesn't own majority of Fox News. Fox News is owned by Fox Corp and class be gives Murdoch voting control but not 50%+ of the economics. His share of the economics probably comes to 1/3, when I last computed. Actually that is the combined family ownership and I don't know nor remember the exact amounts that belong to each family member.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2688162]Murdoch along with family trust owns nearly 80% of class be shares but doesn't own majority of Fox News. Fox News is owned by Fox Corp and class be gives Murdoch voting control but not 50%+ of the economics. His share of the economics probably comes to 1/3, when I last computed. Actually that is the combined family ownership and I don't know nor remember the exact amounts that belong to each family member.[/QUOTE]Aha, excuse me. Murdoch owns a Relative Majority at 39%.

And still American, no longer Australian.

So funny. So many cheap Charlies think them are loveboys of WGs, paid less and got more.

This is your sickness illusion.

There are only two types of mongers in WGs' eyes: have money or have NOT money.

If you would like pay 1000 euro /5 hour to any stunning girl in Sharks (no many, I believe less than 5 girls), you definitely would get best GFE + DFK + BBBJ. So many Japanese book Cosmina because she provides such service.

If you are 50-euro-er, it doesn't matter if you have masculine or handsome young face, you are inferior customers to girls. Only desperate ugly fat providers would accept you unwillingly.

Wake up. You are just walking ATMs.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2688089]Fun fact, Australian born Rupert Murdoch has not been an Australian citizen since 1985. At the time, Australia did not allow dual citizenship when Murdoch elected to become a naturalized American citizen. Let's also add that Fox Corp which operates Fox News is actually still majority owned by Murdoch. You must have been confused with 21st Century Fox.[/QUOTE]Are you blind? I said he sold Sky in 2018. Not Fox.

In 2013 however they had to do some restructuring since the registered News Corp with headquarters in Adelaide was bad news for American politicians. But all that restructuring is really irrelevant. He is Australian for life. The rest is only technicalities.

But my main point is that you actually agree with me. Since Fox is and always has been an American company. Even when under ownership by News Corp in Adelaide.

Or an even better example: Premier League clubs. They are all British football clubs. Otherwise they would have played in the league of their majority owners.

Chelsea (Russia. Soon not to be any longer).

Man City (UEA).

Newcastle (Saudi Arabia).

Arsenal (USA).

Leicester (Thailand).

Man Utd (USA).

Aston Villa (Egypt / USA).

Etc.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2688241]Are you blind? I said he sold Sky in 2018. Not Fox.

In 2013 however they had to do some restructuring since the registered News Corp with headquarters in Adelaide was bad news for American politicians. But all that restructuring is really irrelevant. He is Australian for life. The rest is only technicalities.

But my main point is that you actually agree with me. Since Fox is and always has been an American company. Even when under ownership by News Corp in Adelaide.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I read incorrectly.

Yet the same logic applies. He's American. Voluntarily gave up Aussie citizenship in 1985. Bought Sky in 1990. So no, no Australian companies. Not ever.

And still you can't admit that error, must be the sort of guy who "dates and dumps supermodels. " ROTFL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2687343]I once broke up with a supermodel (she was too tall).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2688199]So funny. So many cheap Charlies think them are loveboys of WGs, paid less and got more.

This is your sickness illusion.

There are only two types of mongers in WGs' eyes: have money or have NOT money.

If you would like pay 1000 euro /5 hour to any stunning girl in Sharks (no many, I believe less than 5 girls), you definitely would get best GFE + DFK + BBBJ. So many Japanese book Cosmina because she provides such service.

If you are 50-euro-er, it doesn't matter if you have masculine or handsome young face, you are inferior customers to girls. Only desperate ugly fat providers would accept you unwillingly.

Wake up. You are just walking ATMs.[/QUOTE]1000/5 hours for since 2014 at Sharks Cosmina? Are you crazy? When so fake blond look, when I got her natural brunette on 2014 when no Asians at Sharks at this time. Don t You know many Caucasians get her for only 100/60 ? When my ladyT was much more elegant look and woman type image for only 100/60 , when I m used to get the prettiest and most elegant all over FKK land since years and when I discover a girl who already gets busy business, usually after our discovery, she organize to make free for me among her business, like happened again on this year with a full busy superstar German telling: I prefer to go with You, asking me to make her squirt, giving me real shower in bed. Heard this so often before, and even when Germans are waiting for same girl like at LR before, when I can t speak German. Girls just ask more expensive and give lower services with baby kiss or not to easy Asians with size to save vagina, when I fucked to exhaust my German sex machine. But we repeat and I wish for again as soon as possible, even I would like so much to finish my ski tour, despite bad snow and big avalanches risks.

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2688199]So funny. So many cheap Charlies think them are loveboys of WGs, paid less and got more.

This is your sickness illusion.

There are only two types of mongers in WGs' eyes: have money or have NOT money.

If you would like pay 1000 euro /5 hour to any stunning girl in Sharks (no many, I believe less than 5 girls), you definitely would get best GFE + DFK + BBBJ. So many Japanese book Cosmina because she provides such service.

If you are 50-euro-er, it doesn't matter if you have masculine or handsome young face, you are inferior customers to girls. Only desperate ugly fat providers would accept you unwillingly.

Wake up. You are just walking ATMs.[/QUOTE]Define yourself.