Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Chala;2369496]So I guess 10-15 US as the Venezuelan's get in Bogota is out the question? [/QUOTE]Yes, out of question (unless you are in some very far and poor barrio, which is not the Cartagena where you will be and can be).

Same country does not mean same prices for goods: girls in Cancun will charge 10 or 20 times more than in Chiapas; girls in Manhattan bars will never charge $20, but maybe a homeless in a lonely area will accept that.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2369614]I see it's near impossible to find a Chica friendly hotel in Boca Grande or Centro, are there "love motels " In the boca grande area or area near the clock tower. The hotel I reserved allows chicas but at a whopping $100 a night and I'm tryna avoid that LOL. Still doing recon but I see from the board there are limited options.[/QUOTE]If you search the thread you will find plenty of information about this. Short time hotels and luxury motels (in Crespo). And you have also the awesome List. Don't be lazy.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2369633]Yes, out of question (unless you are in some very far and poor barrio, which is not the Cartagena where you will be and can be).

Same country does not mean same prices for goods: girls in Cancun will charge 10 or 20 times more than in Chiapas; girls in Manhattan bars will never charge $20, but maybe a homeless in a lonely area will accept that.

If you search the thread you will find plenty of information about this. Short time hotels and luxury motels (in Crespo). And you have also the awesome List. Don't be lazy.[/QUOTE]You call it lazy, I call it busy but thanks for the response. Wtf is the awesome list. And let me say this, this forum in my opinion is for brotherhood so chill with the little hoe ass comments. Some of us don't got time to read 100 pages back but thanks for pointing me in a direction.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2369614]I see it's near impossible to find a Chica friendly hotel in Boca Grande or Centro, are there "love motels " In the boca grande area or area near the clock tower. The hotel I reserved allows chicas but at a whopping $100 a night and I'm tryna avoid that LOL. Still doing recon but I see from the board there are limited options.[/QUOTE]All the chicas know where the love motels are. Any chica working the clocktower plaza will take you to a love motel in the old city steps away from the plaza.

You don't need to research love motels. The chicas will know and will walk you there.

Cartagena is a lot simpler than you guys think. Don't over spend is my only advice. That city will drain you dry if you throw money around.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2369645]All the chicas know where the love motels are. Any chica working the clocktower plaza will take you to a love motel in the old city steps away from the plaza.

You don't need to research love motels. The chicas will know and will walk you there.

Cartagena is a lot simpler than you guys think. Don't over spend is my only advice. That city will drain you dry if you throw money around.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's why I am asking kinda somewhat think of a master plan to maximize fun.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2368044]I hate to tell you, but it is a tourist town.

Cruise ships and their sailors don't care what the price is, as do a lot of tourists.

That is why the price for pussy is higher. Also there is not much day time places for action.

Good luck on finding a cheap place to stay.

Try Cali.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys LOL for your help LOL or non help LOL I actually had to break the trip down into parts. The owners where charging crazy prices on Airbnb so I switch the trip to Medellin, Cartagena, Cali and San Andreas. For those two months. A lot of moving parts but it's worth it. Thanks.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2369589] If you want Bogota Santa Fe prices then go to Bogota's Santa Fe. [/QUOTE]Nah I'm not going to Bogota right now I was just asking a question. Thanks for responding.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2369641]You call it lazy, I call it busy but thanks for the response. Wtf is the awesome list. And let me say this, this forum in my opinion is for brotherhood so chill with the little hoe ass comments. Some of us don't got time to read 100 pages back but thanks for pointing me in a direction.[/QUOTE]Smh yeah, hey BMo Mojo Bandit turned me on to this link he is very helpful, this may help you out. Good luck.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2369641]You call it lazy, I call it busy but thanks for the response. Wtf is the awesome list.[/QUOTE]If you take a look at the whole forum this thread is "Cartagena Reports" under the the forum: Colombia. Also under the forum Colombia are many other threads. Two threads you should look at are Cartagena Lists and Cartagena Hotels and Apartments. Within Cartagena Lists you can find a map made by World Traveler 69, study this map. World Traveler 69 made this map for all of us but mostly for people like you. He likes to give back to the forum. If the map helps you, thank him not me. Under "cartagena lists": find post #491 WorldTravelr69 posted the list in PDF so you can download it. The list is 2 years old and some things can change on the ground but most of the list is probably accurate. The map is a custom made google map so it is a link, the link is also in the same post #491.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]

Another great source of information can be found under "reports of distinction"

[QUOTE=BMo814;2369641]You call it lazy, I call it [red]busy[/red] but thanks for the response. Wtf is the awesome list. And let me say this, this forum in my opinion is for brotherhood so chill with the little hoe ass comments. [red]Some of us don't got time to read 100 pages back[/red] but thanks for pointing me in a direction.[/QUOTE]I wish to point out this answer as the *Paragon* of how some people approaches this resource.

This man is busy, but apparently does not care that also other members can be busy. He does not have the time to read 100 pages, but he expects that someone else could do that and provide a digest to him. In other words: his time is precious, but our time has no value. Respect!
And - this is the cherry on the top of the cake - he is so "busy" and considers his time so more precious than that of others, that he feels so hurt to insult those who are not available to serve his urgency. I think he is 100% sincere in feeling all this.

This forum is not an information counter, where members are paid to provide information upon request. It is for sharing, as you said. We (me too) shared a lot here so far. I took such a long time over 10 years to write reports and summary of information in this and other threads. Did you? Just take the time to read, or at least do not expect people is happy to spoon feed.

The awesome List is the Cartagena List linked under Colombia in ISG. You are so lazy, or you consider your time so much more precious than ours, to not even see that there are forums called "Cartagena FAQ", "Cartagena Lists", "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments", and many others. And the is the RoD too! Have a look there. It will be an eye opener.
Last but not least, there is that small link at right top: "Search Thread". Try to search "hotel", "motel", love motel". Try also "Crespo". It'll be a "WOW" for you.

There is an awesome ISG member (WorldTravel69), who is maybe busier than you in his real life, he has a job, things to do, but he spent days of months of his time, over so many years, to compile Lists of places in many countries of the world, collecting information from posts of ISG contributors. He did all that for everyone. More than that there is only spoon feeding, but here it happens rarely.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2369797]I wish to point out this answer as the *Paragon* of how some people approaches this resource.

This man is busy, but apparently does not care that also other members can be busy. He does not have the time to read 100 pages, but he expects that someone else could do that and provide a digest to him. In other words: his time is precious, but our time has no value. Respect!
And - this is the cherry on the top of the cake - he is so "busy" and considers his time so more precious than that of others, that he feels so hurt to insult those who are not available to serve his urgency. I think he is 100% sincere in feeling all this.

This forum is not an information counter, where members are paid to provide information upon request. It is for sharing, as you said. We (me too) shared a lot here so far. I took such a long time over 10 years to write reports and summary of information in this and other threads. Did you? Just take the time to read, or at least do not expect people is happy to spoon feed.

The awesome List is the Cartagena List linked under Colombia in ISG. You are so lazy, or you consider your time so much more precious than ours, to not even see that there are forums called "Cartagena FAQ", "Cartagena Lists", "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments", and many others. And the is the RoD too! Have a look there. It will be an eye opener.
Last but not least, there is that small link at right top: "Search Thread". Try to search "hotel", "motel", love motel". Try also "Crespo". It'll be a "WOW" for you.

There is an awesome ISG member (WorldTravel69), who is maybe busier than you in his real life, he has a job, things to do, but he spent days of months of his time, over so many years, to compile Lists of places in many countries of the world, collecting information from posts of ISG contributors. He did all that for everyone. More than that there is only spoon feeding, but here it happens rarely.[/QUOTE]Atta boy! Thanks! And I may not have as many reports as why'all but I do contribute to the forum hence the senior member but what I never do is take my time to talk down to another man.

You can leave it under simply Joe Q. I can ask the front desk under if Senor Chala left a message.

I just got home from my trip number 2 to CTG. It was great. Good seafood, good sex, weather was hot as hell. So what can I say its CTG. My return trip was long and grueling. I can't find any place that I like that's closer. Also that's as cheap. Any comments?

Going to CTG next year. One of the guys going swears that he can get an airbnb in a high rise in Bocogrande where the airbnb owner will allow us to bring anyone we want in. Could he be right? I'm telling him it won't be possible. That we need to get an apartment.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2370880]I just got home from my trip number 2 to CTG. It was great. Good seafood, good sex, weather was hot as hell. So what can I say its CTG. My return trip was long and grueling. I can't find any place that I like that's closer. Also that's as cheap. Any comments?[/QUOTE]How about giving some details about your trip? Good seafood: which restaurants? Good Sex: Where did you find the chicas? Were the chicas hot or just doable? How much did you pay? Did she give BBBJ, etc? As for the weather, it never changes in Cartagena except sometimes it rains more.

As far as anything closer, not really. Without knowing what part of the country you live in, it's hard to say why your return trip was grueling. I never have a good trip back because the excitement of going down always makes the trip down worth it. Sometimes though it's about planning your flight far enough in advance to get the best route, etc. Even then though, I live near a regional airport so people close to big hubs like NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, LA, etc will always get a better flight than I will.

You posted before that your first trip was a disaster, how do you compare this trip to that one?

[QUOTE=UnknownTravels;2370944]Going to CTG next year. One of the guys going swears that he can get an airbnb in a high rise in Bocogrande where the airbnb owner will allow us to bring anyone we want in. Could he be right? I'm telling him it won't be possible. That we need to get an apartment.[/QUOTE]You need to get the information from the guy and investigate this yourself. You say "one of the guys" which leads me to believe there are at least three of you. THat means that when you get three chicas there will be six of you, that is called a "party" and even if the building allows visitors that doesn't mean they are not going to frown on parties. Because the building is important not the owner of the apartment, the building is setting the rules so this is what you need to investigate.

Does anyone have information on guest policy at IBIS hotel in Cartagena? My friends are recommending it but I want to make sure they don't create problems with visitors?

Thanks!

The only thing I can add to my post for clarification is that I only shop for chicas at the clock tower. I'm not interested in clubs. Posting a report on CTG is different than any city I have visited. I was there for 5 days and had sex with 5 different girls. All were great and all did BBBJ. That is one of the questions I asked before I choose. If I reported that Carla did BBBJ and RIM JOB, of the 100 chicas at the clock tower plaza how could you find her. I had seafood every night all at different restaurants all of my meals were great, could I recommend any particular restaurant? CTG is the best seafood city I have ever visited it has hundreds of good seafood restaurants, why spend time looking for any particular address. I'm not trying to be a smart ass but if a person were to read the last 100 pages of posts (like I have) valuable info to me is things like chica friendly hotels / condos, best cambio rates, why it is important to ask if a chica is Colombia or a venny. If a venny do they have a passport. If I tell you I had sex with 5 girls and 3 were hot and 2 were not, well I hope you get my point. I have always and will always post things I think are valuable to the members. CTG is different.

[QUOTE=UnknownTravels;2370944]Going to CTG next year. One of the guys going swears that he can get an airbnb in a high rise in Bocogrande where the airbnb owner will allow us to bring anyone we want in. Could he be right? I'm telling him it won't be possible. That we need to get an apartment.[/QUOTE]If you're asking here, why are you telling him it won't be possible? It's clear that you don't know whether or not it's possible. Also, I'm fairly certain the Airbnb places in Bocagrande high-rises are also apartments.

You may both be right. If the guy has experience in Cartagena, he may have a contact with someone who has an Airbnb who will allow him to bring whoever he wants in. However, the building security will have rules. They won't let in girls without an ID. The owner might have different rules when more than one person is in the apartment.

Also, an owner who has no problem with bringing in guests, might say no if you ask to bring back "anyone you want.

Finally, is it worth ruining your entire trip just so you can say "I told you so?" So what if someone here tells you which answer he thinks is right? You need to be having this conversation with the people who own the apartments you're interested in.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2371127]I had seafood every night all at different restaurants all of my meals were great, could I recommend any particular restaurant? CTG is the best seafood city I have ever visited it has hundreds of good seafood restaurants, why spend time looking for any particular address. [/QUOTE]Because they are not all the same, as in any town. Did you try Cuzco and Santisimo, at least?

Previously you wrote "A restaurant called HARVEYS has the best seafood I have ever had". If you really believe that this fast-food place in Bocagrande is equivalent to Cuzco and Santisimo, and that all hundreds of places are equivalent, then, yes, you should not spend time on making recommendations.

I not, I still have the little hope you feel grateful to me for having told you to try those places at least once.

I appreciate you taking the time to recommend good restaurants in CTG. My problem is I live to travel and I travel out of the country 5, some times 6, and occasionally 7 times a year. I am not a high roller. I always travel on a budget. My budget for lodging is $50.00 a night and that's possible in most cities for an apartment with AIRBNB. It seems to me that anything you buy in the walled city is much more expensive than in Bocagrande were I stayed on my last trip. When I read your restaurant recommendations knowing they were in the walled city I didn't pay any attention to them. I travel solo and eating alone especially at a expensive restaurant just doesn't work for me. Again thanks for your recommendation but this doesn't work for me. Ley me mention, once you posted that you didn't think that I had much experience out of the mid west well as I just mentioned I live to travel I have visited every western European country and all except 2 eastern European countries. I have been all over Asia. The first time I used ISG was a trip I made to Czechoslovakia. Yea this was just after they run the Ruskies out. They were still dancing in the streets. Using ISG info I ended up with the most beautiful Slovakian girl It wasn't long before the country split. I have been back 3 times to the check republic. OK so I've bragged enough about myself. Once again Blackpage thanks for your recommendations, and yes if we meet in CTG you can buy me a beer.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2371727] Once again Blackpage thanks for your recommendations, and yes if we meet in CTG you can buy me a beer.[/QUOTE]Actually what I proposed was the opposite way round LOL
[I]"Try Cuzco and Santisimo. [u]You[/u]'ll want to offer [u]me[/u] a beer to thank me. "[/I]
but it's ok. I appreciate you appreciate my recommendations anyway. Let's toast with our own beers!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2371315]

Previously you wrote "A restaurant called HARVEYS has the best seafood I have ever had". If you really believe that this fast-food place in Bocagrande is equivalent to Cuzco and Santisimo, and that all hundreds of places are equivalent, then, yes, you should not spend time on making recommendations.

[/QUOTE]If you really believe that Harvey's is a fast food place, then the question begs: Have you actually ever sat down and enjoyed lunch there?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2371982]If you really believe that Harvey's is a fast food place, then the question begs: Have you actually ever sat down and enjoyed lunch there?[/QUOTE]Hit and killed (me). No, I never sat down and ate there, and therefore you are justified to knock at my door and call me "unreliable commenter". [i]Touche'[/i].

However, I have walked in front of it several times (Av. S. Martin, right?) and honestly the visual impression it gives is that it is just one of the many tourist places where to have lunch, at best. This does not mean it is a tourist trap, or it is necessarily a place where bad food is served, and ok when I named it "fast food" I was exaggerated or unfair, but NO WAY I could think it is one of the best restaurants in Cartagena. Am I wrong? Did I miss the top restaurant of Cartagena because negatively biased by its look? Ok, my fault, sorry.

Now you made me curious, and of course I feel hit by your comment, so I rushed to check Tripadvisor. I don't trust Tripadvisor in general, but it may help to get some idea.
In this case, Tripadvisor ranks Harvey "#243 of 831 Restaurants in Cartagena" with score 4.0. By chance, the first 2 comments I read are "Local place for a quick meal", "Average at best".
As a comparison, Tripadvisor ranks Carbon de Palo 4.5 and "#59 of 831 Restaurants in Cartagena" and Cuzco 4.5 "#33 of 831 Restaurants in Cartagena".
Now guess what? Tripadvisor ranks Restaurant #1 in Cartagena a place called LA TAPERIA (:eek:), so my conclusion is: forget TripAdvisor! :(

Now let me reverse it back on you. Did you ever have dinner at Cuzco and Santisimo? Where would you take your most significant one for a romantic dinner? Is the ambient at Harvey's elegant as at Cuzco? Are dishes so good? Tell me I am too negatively biased by my visual impression, but I will keep on considering Cuzco two categories higher and preferring it for my dinners.

If you're on the fence, pull the trigger. I'm glad I did before visiting a friend in Peru. My Spanish is basic level one, not conversational. I did a lot of pointing and used simple words. If someone wants your money, they will work with you. With smartphones, translator apps, and forums like this, you don't have an excuse. Book your flight and see how you feel afterwards because you have 24 hours to refund it.

Read the last 80-100 pages of the forum, at least. Learn to count to 300 without assistance. Just add "mil pesos" to everything. Message the Airbnb owner if bringing girls are okay. I had a private / direct entrance, so that helps stop a possible building policy from getting in the way. However, without a layer of security checking IDs, you assume the risk of no help if something goes wrong. I didn't have any problems after several girls, maybe I was just lucky.

You're going to get quoted prices from 60 k pesos online to $200 USD offline. I purposely sampled girls from both price ends to find out for myself. I found the more expensive ones were more aggressive at marketing and were just willing to ask those prices. My favorites ended up being the more economical ones, 120 k pesos, that would be way out of my league back home. Try to open with your offer first.

The clock tower is great because you can feel out someone's personality. My first night I paid 200 k for 2 hours. She was Venezuelan and spoke a little English. I didn't pursue TLN on my first trip since I was a rookie and didn't want to sleep with one eye open.

The girls are not just at the clock tower. After dark, they start showing up in the side streets and they become easy to spot. Anytime you see a girl that catches your eye, at least get her WhatsApp because you're appetite will return. I made the mistake of not approaching lookers during my down time.

Tinder: Found my two favs here. I didn't use my real photo.

Photoprepagos: Used this the most.

Mileroticos: Sourced a few.

Facebook: Didn't use / try.

After arriving, I stocked up the fridge with beer, juice, water, and desserts to share. I never saw any violence or felt unsafe walking at night. If you look for trouble or don't look like you're in control, trouble will probably find you as with any city.

Thanks to all the posters for sharing a wealth of information to study.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2371982]If you really believe that Harvey's is a fast food place, then the question begs: Have you actually ever sat down and enjoyed lunch there?[/QUOTE]I'm completely out of my depth here, but I have a few thoughts on "fast food" in Colombia.

Unless you're getting the food from a street vendor, you won't get any food fast. It takes about the same amount of time to get a burger from Presto or El Corral as it takes at Burgers, Barbacoa and Beer. It's fast food quality at quality food speed.

Generally speaking, in the US, I consider any mall food court business to be fast food, both in quality and speed of service. It's always served on disposable plates with plastic utensils on a reusable tray of questionable cleanliness. However, in Colombia, many mall food court restaurants serve on real plates with metal silverware and your drink in glass. The quality tends to be much higher with better presentation and excellent prices.

[QUOTE=Trilon;2372128]If you're on the fence, pull the trigger. I'm glad I did before visiting a friend in Peru. My Spanish is basic level one, not conversational. I did a lot of pointing and used simple words. If someone wants your money, they will work with you. With smartphones, translator apps, and forums like this, you don't have an excuse. Book your flight and see how you feel afterwards because you have 24 hours to refund it.

Read the last 80-100 pages of the forum, at least. Learn to count to 300 without assistance. Just add "mil pesos" to everything. Message the Airbnb owner if bringing girls are okay. I had a private / direct entrance, so that helps stop a possible building policy from getting in the way. However, without a layer of security checking IDs, you assume the risk of no help if something goes wrong. I didn't have any problems after several girls, maybe I was just lucky.

You're going to get quoted prices from 60 k pesos online to $200 USD offline. I purposely sampled girls from both price ends to find out for myself. I found the more expensive ones were more aggressive at marketing and were just willing to ask those prices. My favorites ended up being the more economical ones, 120 k pesos, that would be way out of my league back home. Try to open with your offer first..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time, awesome, no place better for a Point and click destination (without 24 HR plane ride) was their for first time in a couple yrs, the quality was out of control,(best in the 5-6 times I been) oh and the 24 HR cancellation policy on airline is if book at least a week in advance, Great first report it gives a little insight on what's going on.

First, thanks for that great report!!

I will be going October 4-6 and staying at one of Juan's spots. This will be my 6th trip I believe. Seems like nothing much has changed!?

Still plan on going to arepas pues first hahahaha.

I do have one question.

Can anyone recommend a good breakfast spot? I'm a early bird even after a crazy night. Finding breakfast and any morning activities have always been a struggle.

Thanks all and good luck!

Hey guys,

Anyone have any leads on some chubby ladies in CTG? My usual girl moved to Barranquilla and I'll be there soon.

Thanks,

Perk.

Readers, allow me to provide the community with some updates for Cartagena from my point of view. It's lengthy because I wanted to provide as much detail as possible to help new people navigate Cartagena as best as possible. Photos included, but with respect to the promise of their privacy, their faces are hidden.

[B]Quick Background:[/B]

Arrived on Wed 9/11. Solo until wingman arrives tomorrow. Taxi to the house near Clock Tower for 20 mil. They tried to start at 30 mil but I'm well aware, thanks to the ISG, that the price is no more than 20 mil.

This time I decided to go against the usual recommendation of staying in an apartment in Laguito from he Who Shall (Not?) Be Named. Coughjuancough. I did an Airbnb. The spot was absolutely Perfect. $130/ night. Included complete daily maid services (home and laundry). I did my research prior to locking it down. By research, I mean I found out that I'm able to bring chicas back with literally no hassle. There's no security or doorman. Just a lowkey door facing the streets. Super nice spot with 2 bedrooms each with bath. Huge open living room for partying with its own halfbath. Perfect for throwing huge parties where you can't keep eyes on all guest because it's completely separated from the bedrooms which have their own locks. For those who are super concerned of safety, I felt safe and will Definitely rent again. Balcony overlooking the street. The property manager explicitly told me to treat this house exactly how you would your own. Enough said.

My mission for this trip was simple: To fuck as many girls as I can until I return home on Monday. I accomplished my mission with a story to tell:

[B] Day 1 (Wednesday): [/B]

My Temporary Wifey (lives in Cali) was due to arrive today with her sexy amiga. I planned to double cuff for a few days. In typical Colombian fashion, she was late and did not arrive today. She kind of bullshitted and told me she would be there Saturday instead. No worries, there's plenty temporary wives in this country to replace her. The original plan was wingman and I would rent a boat to Cholon and Playa Blanca with us bringing two girls each. The two I were bringing were going to be Temporary Wifey and her amiga. She dropped the ball when it really counted. More on that later. Throughout the trip I would make plans for two others. We set up the boat trip through the property manager who knew a guy who knew a guy. 1400 mill for a 10 person boat between 8 am and 5:30 pm. I settle in and choose the appetizer of the trip.

[B]La Reina Del Sexo Anal (#1)[/B]

"La Reina Del Sexo Anal" from photoprepago. I was already out so I stopped by her rinky dink apartment 8 min away from Clock Tower. She asked for 150 mil and she got it. She was not, however, the queen of anal. Ridiculously tiny bootyhole. She definitely tried but. It wasn't happening. A for effort. I gave up during the power outage that happened 15 minutes into my arrival. 3. 5 Sex, 3. 4 BBBJ, massage was 6. 4 though. I did the massage because I came fast and wanted to use my full hour. Venezuelan chica with a soft bubble butt and really long hair. Not mind blowing and no further details worth mentioning. Get that first one out the way quickly for the sake of Post-Nut Clarity.

I stayed up all night so I'm ready to chill. I go home and relax for a few hours then prepare for the evening festivities. Hunger strikes and I find myself on a rooftop bar who had really good fried shrimp (Terreza) that overlooks the Plaza between 8 ish and 10 pm, you can slowly see the crowd transition. From tourists to tricks. The sounds of horseshoes starts to mix with the sounds of high heels entering the Plaza. The smell of horse shit starts to mix with cheap perfume. The crowd came and went in waves. Right at 8 pm, packed with tourists. I'm talking families, baby strollers, and couples; young and old. And of course the Cartagena see*Squad. 9 pm, kind of empties out. I counted 10 ish obvious see*Squad workers barely worth mentioning. Deadpool is also here, texting and wielding swords. He's so out of place. 10 pm, more of a mix but the be*Band is starting to arrive. The workers are literally just Standing There as previously mentioned 100's of times on the forum. No exaggeration. One chica got bumped and didn't even move a foot or stop staring at her phone. Discipline. I head to Dolce Vita right around 10 pm and it's still pretty dead. There's definitely a few early birds in there trying to get this worm. Within 5 min I spot her.

[B]Ghenesis (#2)[/B]

A sexy mixed Colombian+Venezuelan chica with the big soft ass barely contained by a black cotton skirt arrives. Instantly sold. She goes by Ghenesis. She asks for 300 mil for 4 hours after I buy her a Corona for 13 mil. Not a terrible deal honestly, but I didn't want that much time. We settle on two hours for 200 mil. We walk a few minutes back to my house where we drink a bit more, shower together and get down to business. 6. 8 sex, No BBBJ, 9. 3 GFE, but only for the agreed upon time as expected. We shower again then head back to LDV around 1 am and it is PACKED with the A*Team. I'm overwhelmed at how beautiful these women are. With Ghenesis next to me, they're eyeing me, calling at me, grabbing on me, treating me like the piece of meat that I am. It's disgusting. I loved it. I really attempted to count the amount of "fuckable" bitches to report here and I lost count after 50. Even if your standards are unusually high, there's probably something there for you at LDV. Me and Ghenesis separate and I toss back a few drinks waiting to recoup for tonight's grand finale.

Fast forward an hour and I grab more food at the rooftop bar again. The Plaza now has the A*Team, be*Band, and see*Squad in full effect. I head back down the street to check out Space. It's okay. Be*Band in full effect. I've finally realized I just don't like Space. I can't put a finger on it. Vibes or something. I swing back over to LDV around 3:30 and it's winding down. After a few more drinks I head outside for fresh air. I walk to the Plaza and the police are scurrying the chicas. Seriously, the police are doubled up on a bike doing a figure-8 to scatter the chicas. Chicas disappear within 3 min. Magic. I'm amazed at the resemblance this has to a herding dog doing this with its cattle. I'm empty handed because I didn't want to settle. I had a sweet tooth for a slim morena with a tear-drop bubble butt. I walk back to LDV for a final hunt. This Little Annoying Bit comes up to me and starts talking my head off. I clearly, and immediately, exhibit disinterest. "I'm no scort you don't have to pay me", she says. I tell her idgaf because she's so damn flat and annoying. While she's talking my head off, of course the slim type I'm looking for walks passed and we lock eyes. I'm glad these chicas are ruthless AF and don't care who you're with. She stood at the corner for a few seconds looking back at me.

[B]Leidy (#3)[/B]

The Little Annoying Bit just doesn't get the hint so I abruptly walk off mid sentence and gesture to Leidy to follow me. My gut tells me she's the one. And damn she was! Super skinny. Morena. Friendly and fun as hell. Features you would expect of a runway model: Long thin legs, super symmetrical face, and this walk that'll turn any head. She asks for 200 mil and I counter with 150 mil plus propina. She quickly accepts and by the time the negotiation ends, we're at my front door. I know many have their preferences, however, I'll never stay in Laguito again. To each is own. She's so surprised at the entrance and living room. So surprised that she decides to model on the kitchen table for me. We did a mini photoshoot on the kitchen table. I feel like a king out here. Good for my self-esteem I presume. We head to the shower where she lets me do whatever I want for as long as I want. Hands down she had the best tasting bootyhole I've ever had. I swear she put a cherry Jolly Rancher in her ass and let it melt earlier. Complete GFE. Awesome vibes made me feel like she was an old friend. After we finish around 6 am, I tell her she's welcome to sleep with me and she immediately obliges and jumps under the covers. Her night being over played a factor here for sure. She squeezed me so tight and cuddled like newlyweds until we woke. In the morning I gave her 210 mil and she was very happy. She deserved the tip. 7.7 sex, 7.9 BBBJ, 10 GFE. I can tell she's going to be a repeat. And she was. More on that later.

[B]Day 2 (Thursday): [/B]

Coolin out today until my wingman arrives at 3. I head to San Valentin for a delicious fried shrimp meal. Wingman arrives, first time in Colombia. The look on a man's face when he sees The Plaza full of women for the first time is priceless. We spend the day pregaming for the nightly festivities. It's 10:30 and we walk the plaza. He's clearly overwhelmed and can't choose his appetizer but he's on a mission. Within 10 minutes he chooses shortly after I settle on my 4th course.

[B]Maria (#4)[/B]

I've been eyeing this super cute, light skin, tiny Venezuelan chica with wide hips and bubble ass in the plaza. She was mad chill, negotiated very easily to 150 mil. The four of us are back at the house drinking, smoking, listening to music, just having a good time. Maria seems a little down as if she wasn't enjoying herself. I inquire as to why she seems so down. Fellas, I Really wish I hadn't. Vibes are all high and she hits me with the "My grandma just died". Fuck. That would make me sad also. Her statement is either: 1.) a lie. Or 2.) the truth. Either way I'm still fuckin. I reply "damn lo siento, shower?" She's so easy going, did everything I asked for. 17 strokes in from the back, I notice that statement earlier was probably option #2. I know these hoes lie all the time, about anything, for money. However, she did seem like someone whose grandma just died. I always try to remove my heart from the equation during hunting season. Keyword: try. I nut quickly and get her the fuck out of there after paying her the agreed upon rate. 1.4 Sex, 2.2 BBBJ, 2. 7 GFE. Rendezvous with wingman after he finished his session and we head back out to eat around 1 am. From a balcony, wingman spots a couple of chicas he didn't get a chance to speak to earlier. He drops fork and is downstairs in 5 seconds. I see him exchanging info from the balcony then returns to tell me their both Colombian sisters from Medellin both with the crazy heavy butt.

Around 1 am, we enter LDV and that First Time Jaw Drop wingman has makes my day again. LDV is packed even more than yesterday. We hang out for a while critiquing the chicas, dancing, interviewing, and drinking. A very helpful tip I picked up some time ago is to show love to the establishments you frequent. I cannot stress this enough. Imagine two scenarios:

1.) You walk into a crowded club where nobody knows you, have to muscle through to the bar, have to do jumping jacks to get a bartenders' attention, ask for what you want in a foreign language, risk miscommunication, order incorrectly, you feel unhappy, you settle for the first and worst chica, the worst chica steals all of your money, passport and cell phone. Now you're stuck as a bum in a foreign country. Don't get stuck as a bum in a foreign country and get rid of cable and upgrade to DirectTV.

OR 2.) Because you showed love yesterday (I tipped the equivalent of around $12 US), The bartenders and waiters especially recognize your face, run to welcome you with open arms, shout "Amigoooooo!" Ask if you want "the usual" although it was only one time yesterday, and chicas in the establishment go "damn why is that gringo so important", and now they're all waiting in line to suck your dick. I'll choose the scenario 2.) EVERY time. Fast forward to 3:25 am and I see this ridiculously large ass on this light skin Venezuelan that I've got to try on for size.

[B]Mily (#5)[/B]

Asked for 300 mil. Settled on 200 mil. For the hour. Sweet girl, horrible boob job once she's naked, super thick with a relatively smaller waist. Face was probably a 6.3. But That Ass Though. Humongous and soft. Even the chicas that saw it had their eyebrows raised. 5.7 Sex, 6.0 BBBJ, 5.0 GFE. I end my night as she exits around 5 am and knock out.

[B]Day 3 (Friday The 13th):[/B]

Wingman and I head to grab food. San Valentin again because there were several things I wanted to try on their menu. Delicious langostinos al ajillo presented in a shell. Lots of water, rice and veggies to help bring me back to life. Wingman and I separate as he is in search for a professional massage and I'm in search for the opposite. Allow my opinion in an attempt to make sense of some controversy within these pages: Here's probably why some would say it's hard to find chicas walking the streets during the day; because it is. BUT those that say that are likely individuals who do not have a WhatsApp contact list FULL of chicas acquired throughout their stay (s). Walking around the busy streets between 1 pm and 4 pm I found one chica I would actually fuck. She was pretty as hell, super wide hips, but her ass was so damn weak it's a shame she can identify as a Colombiana. She asked for 250 mil. I told her 200 mil but it must include photos and videos. That is always a contingency before I session and I'm fair if they elect not to include their face. I'll tip better if they do. She said 200 mil but she was adamant no photos. I stick to my criteria and on to the next. I text a girl I met last night who was a sweetheart and tell her I want my tongue in that butt for 150 mil. She says sorry because she's an hour away, BUT immediately introduces me to her friend Cielo.

[B]Cielo (#6)[/B]

She was referred to me by her friend I booked last night. The importance of having a contact list at your disposal. I get home and she send me pictures of her friend Cielo. I immediately agree after I see her tiny waist and extremely large ass and perfectly aged the cups. She was a darker skinned Colombian with a pretty face. Cielo texts me shortly after I agree with her friend and sends a pic of her asshole. A hilarious moment we all shared: Cielo text the wrong number first so my number neighbor just received a random pic of an asshole LMAO. I like her already. She knew exactly what I wanted. I tell her to come right now and she ask for 15 minutes to get dressed and she'll be over. She shows up in 15 minutes and I'm even more impressed, thinking I'the be waiting. She pulls up, walks in and instantly drops clothes and jumps into my arms. This chick could fuck! One of the softest, biggest asses on a nonexistent waist. She worked in front of the camera too. 9.2 Sex, 8.2 BBBJ, 10 GFE. I wish I got a chance to repeat with her. I gave her the agreed 150 mil + 30 mil propina since she stayed a while and let me do everything I wanted. Her friend even text me later to see how our session went. I loved the follow up!

After chillin in the crib a few hours, me and wingman head to get food and watch the talent walk into the Plaza. Around 11:30, wingman spots the sister chicas from yesterday he didn't get a chance with from a balcony. He text her to wait for him downstairs. She replied that she already saw us. Either Colombians have excellent vision or we just stuck out like sore thumbs even a few floors above the Plaza. I have yet to see the other sister up close so I'm not pressed. We finish eating, walk up to the sisters then I play my wingman part. He chooses the shorter more hood looking type and leaves the older, more classy type to me. He is instantly sold and doesn't wait for my interview with the other sister to finish before he leaves.

[B]Angela (#7)[/B]

Initially, I planned to wait until later. She asks for 250 mil, I counter with the usual 150, and she says she'll do 200 mil. For the hour. Well, chick, so will I. After talking with her, her NAILING the interview, and me learning that she actually was funny and pretty intelligent, I couldn't resist. She was physically AND mentally attractive. She was so relaxed. Pretty face. She was very nasty too. Very cliche Lady In The Street, Freak In The Sheets type. She loved sucking my balls, which I'm not a fan of, but she was a pro ball sucker. I'the let her do it again. Pro dick sucker too. She also had a fetish for sniffing my gooch LOL, which was a first. As the gentleman I am, I returned the favor and sniffed her too which turned her on to no end. I loved having her huge, soft bubble butt in my face anyway. Finally she hit me with the reverse cowgirl while I was on the couch and made her ass clap simultaneously. NUT. 9.2 Sex, 8.5 BBBJ, 9.1 GFE. She was an excellent choice that I am sure to repeat with. I love a freaky chick. I even drop a hint we [I]might[/I] be renting a boat Sunday and she [I]might[/I] be invited. More on that later too. After wingman and I finish, we head to LDV yet again. I tell him about Space and he wants to check it out. We head over but they're asking for a cover at the door. We look at each other and say aloud "Fuck That" and walk into LDV. It's even more packed today. With the super Post-Nut Clarity, wingman and I can enjoy the show for a while just having a good time.

[B]Carolina (#8)[/B]

4 am rolls around and I've turned down a lot of chicas because I'm searching for a specific type: short, nerdy, tiny everywhere except her ass. Me and wingman do another street lap and walk back inside. I spot her and we instantly lock eyes. Cute and quirky little pothead. Super wide hips with the matching butt. Glasses and a bullring piercing. Nice tattoos all over. We stare at each other for 10 seconds then she comes running to hug me like she hasn't seen me in years. Wingman nods knowing instantly that I've chosen as I mentioned to him earlier my taste for the night. He's dancing with his selection and we both head out to the house. This little chica could not stop giggling. When she saw the smoke on the table she got extremely hyper. I had her roll some up and we smoked and chilled before heading to our rooms. She even pulled out a bowl from her purse and packed a few hits. I know a pothead when I see one. I was wasted at this point. Wingman and his girl found the tiny quirky girl on my shoulders doing all types of drunk shit. She was really cool and fun, but extremely ditzy. 6. 3 Sex, 7. 2 BBBJ, 3. 7 GFE. I end my night with her around 6 am.

[B]Day 4 (Saturday. Colombian Valentines Day)[/B]

I got very lucky. I didn't know today would be the Colombian Valentines Day. Apparently it's a big thing. All of the Colombian chicas are in a red dress and there's decoration inside a lot of the establishments at night, especially La Dolce Vita. And there's a LOT of people in the clubs. Temporary Wifey hits me up around 4 pm and tells me she missed her flight and she'll be on the next one in an hour. I instantly write her off. She texts back telling me how mad she is and something happened with her second flight and she will arrive tomorrow. I tell her to never write me again. Temporary is temporary. I don't care how many crying emojis she sends. Me and wingman did more typical tourist shit like walking the streets, shops, food, semi-tours. Fast forward, we find ourselves back at, you guessed it, LDV, around 11:30. Worth noting every chica's starting rate was 300 mil tonight. I also notice a lot of gringos acting like gringos. Go figure.

[B]Andrea (#9)[/B]

11:33 I'm leaving with this bad chica from Medellin. I got her down to 250 mil because I just had to have her. I leave wingman there to fend for himself. She loves taking nude selfies of herself with my iPhone. A real pro in front of the camera I might add. We get down to business after I stop drooling over her perfectly shaped natural body. She attempts to give me a CBJ and I instantly decline. She folds and gives me one of the best BBBJs on the trip. Her pussy was extremely tight. Which is unfortunate for me. Being above average and running out of Golden Tickets, I had to settle for the Colombian Preventor Condom. Man that condom sucks. I know better to not bring enough but somehow I left my extra extras at home. I'm only mentioning this because halfway into a rough ass doggy session, it pops without us knowing. I bust all wild and crazy inside her and let my dick marinate inside her for minutes after we finish. We both notice what has happened and the mood quickly changes. No use crying over spilled leche, right? She asks for 50 mil for the morning after pill. Yeah right. I noticed how she used her sharp ass nails to put the condom on. 7.8 Sex, 9.5 BBBJ, 8. 8 GFE (until the incident). Back to LDV to meet with wingman.

[B]Jessica (#10)[/B]

I return around 1 am to meet with wingman and it's crazy inside the place. 100+ Colombian women in red dresses. They're everywhere. Except the Venezuelans. They weren't celebrating and I found that out when I asked Jessica why she was wearing black. She was very relaxed but dancing by herself the entire time and giving nobody any attention until I gestured her to come over. She was So. Fucking. Soft. Soft everywhere. Not hot but cute. Smooth skin, light hair, always smiling. She danced like she could fuck your brains out. Wingman has chosen a repeat from the other night with a freckled light skin Venezuelan. We take them back to the house and our dates mesh well together. We're dancing and drinking and smoking in the house. The girls are laughing and joking with us and each other. Wingman gets a crazy idea that we should throw pesos off of the balcony. We do and it starts a tiny riot in the street. The chicas found it hilarious. After another photo session with Jessica, we get down to business. 8.8 Sex, No BBBJ, 8. 8 GFE. She was so fun I drop a hint to her about the boat we're renting tomorrow. And by tomorrow, I mean in 5 hours. She loves the idea. She wants money of course. She asks for 500 mil. The previous chicas I've been with have also asked for that same 500 mil when I inquired. It's crunch time and I could have done a better job at securing free chicas. I snoozed and lost and paid for it. I negotiate her down to 400 mil and lay out a criteria for her to follow. One specifically, she is to not stop dancing the entire boat trip LOL. She agrees to be at my house at 9 am. Recall Angela (#7), she is still on ice waiting for my confirmation to invite her on the boat. I lock her down too because wingman is taking her sister. This should be fun. I get her down to 400 mil as well with the my expectations.

It's 6 am and Leidy (#3) is texting me. She's been a sweetheart this entire trip trying to plan to see me and just hang out. Video chatting me while she's out and about doing her daily activities like the gym. I kind of felt bad because I haven't been receptive to her and girls like her don't come around too often. Dare I say 20% of the time? Well on this trip, 2 out of 10 wanted to just "hang out". In other words, hang out without money directly exchanged for sex. Kind of like here in America LOL. She tells me she's near my house and asks if I'm with another chica. I tell her no and she's welcome to come sleep with me. She's a great cuddler. She quickly shows up and we head to the shower. At this point I'm exhausted, need to be up in three hours, and my balls are completely empty. My intentions were to simply go to sleep with her. Damn her for coming over all sexy, smelling good and dancing in the shower. We had another excellent session. This time the BBBJ was 8.7. I tell her my plans for the boat and Cholon / Playa Blanca. I toss an invite to her. Especially since wingman didn't lock down his 2nd chica. She declines initially then I see her wheels turning. She says she would have to go home to get her bathing suit and stuff. I tell her we can pick up a bathing suit and stuff in the morning before we leave and her eyes light up. She agrees to come for no money. We exchanged massages and finally fell asleep for an hour.

[B]Day 5 (Sunday. Cholon, Playa Blanca)[/B]

It's 9 am and my alarm is going off. Bad fucking move staying up so late having to get ready to leave to be on a boat for an entire day. The tour manager and captain would arrive at my house at 9:30. Angela (#7), her sister (my wingmans date), and Jessica (#10) all pull up at the house around 9:15. Leidy (#3) is still in my bed sleep. She's woken up by the sweet sounds of Anuel AA blaring from my bluetooth speaker that Jessica is playing to get the party started as I encouraged a few hours ago. She was also tasked with being the boat's DJ and grass roller. We leave the house, the 6 of us + tour manager and captain. Wingman and his date and me and my 3 dates. We grab a few things like water, beer and snacks before we catch a taxi to the pier. Tour manager knew a way to avoid the 17 mil / per person tax by catching a taxi to another pier 10 minutes away. We board and set off for an amazing time. At this point me and wingman have broken all ice and got the girls all warmed up and having fun with each other. Lots of dancing, picture taking, drinking, and smoking. We had a great time and I would totally recommend a boat trip to Cholon and Playa Blanca if you've never been. Simply put, Cholon is a party island. At Playa Blanca we swam together and did a bunch of beach shit. I wouldn't go there without secured chicas though. Most of the women I saw there were already cuffed. I also didn't do any hunting while off the boat.

We return from a full day of fun back to the house where the grand finale begins. I had every intention to pull off three, but I just couldn't. Not after a night like last night. Jessica ended up getting too wasted and high, which was okay with me because I was pretty much done, so she was dismissed after a while once we settled in my house. Immediately after I'm showering with Leidy and Angela. If you've never had the Double Hand Colombian Shampoo Special I highly recommend it. Angela wasn't really with the threesome, and I never planned to so I had her wait while I fucked Leidy. Session this time was 8.2. I then told Leidy I wanted her to wait in the kitchen for me while I fucked Angela. Session this time was 9.3 and BBBJ was 8. 8. This time she used this icing lube shit and put it on me before she sucked it. It was actually delicious and I put some on her and devoured her holes. After we finished and Angela leaves, I invited Leidy back from the kitchen to chill for a while then we'the go for a real date later that night. Her eyes lit up. She told me she would go home and get pretty for me.

She returned in an hour around 9 and we went off on a real date. Food and drinks first. Then we walked the street hand-holding and kissing. We looked like a real couple. Especially taking touristy photos in the streets as she pointed out significant buildings to me. Next she took me to her favorite bar about 12 min walking from the Clock Tower. It was very low-key but I loved every moment of it. Not a chica in sight at this bar. We danced the night away until we couldn't stop yawning. Realizing she wasn't expecting any money, I give her the last of my pesos. I over budgeted around 300 mil and giving it to her was well worth it. Especially considering she's been with me since 6 am and doing another TLN tonight. She was not expecting it and gave me a heartfelt thank you. We headed back to my house for another shower and session before we fall asleep.

[B]Day 6 (Monday)[/B]

I wake up Leidy with my tongue in her ass. I had a feeling I would be late for a real breakfast with her. I've only got 30 min before I need to head to the airport. I used 29 min of the 30 to get a final session with new Temporary Wifey. The last minute was spent rushing to get my shit together and her helping. I tell her I need to hit an ATM for the taxi and she tells me not to worry and tells me she'll pay for my taxi. What a sweetheart. She's definitely on the team now. She hails me a taxi and sends me off with a huge hug and kiss like any good (temporary) wife should.

[B]TL; DR[/B]

Stayed near Clock Tower Wednesday 11th to Monday 16th in Airbnb with wingman. Fucked 10 bitches. Good to Great sessions. 150 mil-250 mil. The Plaza and La Dolce Vita was always packed after 11 pm. Had a great time on a boat. Got lots of footage. Will repeat.

[QUOTE=Luminous;2371126]Does anyone have information on guest policy at IBIS hotel in Cartagena? My friends are recommending it but I want to make sure they don't create problems with visitors?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I have never stayed at this IBIS personally, but when I contacted them they confirmed that guests are okay as long as you book the room for 2 people you will not be charged extra. They will as for the chica's ID upon entering, that's all. I have stayed at the IBIS in Bogota and never had any problems there. Also going to Brazil in January and staying at an IBIS there after confirming the same policy.

Has anyone ever stayed at VR Suites in El Laguito? Can you let me know your experience? Guest friendly, quality of stay, etc? Thanks!

Just a point of information for those anticipating a trip to CTL, many of the chicas strolling about the Clock Tower, have braces on their teeth. The girls call them "brackets' in espanol. This struck me as an oddity, as nowhere else in the world have I seen "escorts" with braces. I have always figured that in the US, braces were found on upper middle class teenage girls. A full course of this dental treatment costs US $6000-10000. I wouldn't have thought that these local girls could have afforded it. Evidently, dental care is cheaper and more available in Colombia. Not just the braces, but the general condition of the girls' teeth is excellent. Beautiful white teeth, excellent dental hygiene. Just makes them even more kissable. CTL, what a great place to practice the monger art. Comments?

Great report! Thanks for contributing. Cartagena is not one of my favorite places in Colombia but you report made me want to give it another chance LOL! And your banter was great LOL! Glad you enjoyed yourself.

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2372416] Maria seems a little down as if she wasn't enjoying herself. I inquire as to why she seems so down. Fellas, I Really wish I hadn't. Vibes are all high and she hits me with the "My grandma just died". Fuck. That would make me sad also. Her statement is either: 1.) a lie. Or 2.) the truth. Either way I'm still fuckin. I reply "damn lo siento, shower?" She's so easy going, did everything I asked for. 17 strokes in from the back, I notice that statement earlier was probably option #2. I know these hoes lie all the time, about anything, for money. However, she did seem like someone whose grandma just died. I always try to remove my heart from the equation during hunting season. Keyword: try.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2372416]Readers, allow me to provide the community with some updates for Cartagena from my point of view. It's lengthy because I wanted to provide as much detail as possible to help new people navigate Cartagena as best as possible. Photos included, but with respect to the promise of their privacy, their faces are hidden.

[B]Quick Background:[/B]

Arrived on Wed 9/11. Solo until wingman arrives tomorrow. Taxi to the house near Clock Tower for 20 mil. They tried to start at 30 mil but I'm well aware, thanks to the ISG, that the price is no more than 20 mil.

This time I decided to go against the usual recommendation of staying in an apartment in Laguito from he Who Shall (Not?) Be Named. Coughjuancough. I did an Airbnb. The spot was absolutely Perfect. $130/ night. Included complete daily maid services (home and laundry). I did my research prior to locking it down. By research, I mean I found out that I'm able to bring chicas back with literally no hassle. There's no security or doorman. Just a lowkey door facing the streets. Super nice spot with 2 bedrooms each with bath. Huge open living room for partying with its own halfbath. Perfect for throwing huge parties where you can't keep eyes on all guest because it's completely separated from the bedrooms which have their own locks. For those who are super concerned of safety, I felt safe and will Definitely rent again. Balcony overlooking the street. The property manager explicitly told me to treat this house exactly how you would your own. Enough said.

My mission for this trip was simple: To fuck as many girls as I can until I return home on Monday. I accomplished my mission with a story to tell:

[B] Day 1 (Wednesday): [/B]

My Temporary Wifey (lives in Cali) was due to arrive today with her sexy amiga. I planned to double cuff for a few days. In typical Colombian fashion, she was late and did not arrive today. She kind of bullshitted and told me she would be there Saturday instead. No worries, there's plenty temporary wives in this country to replace her. The original plan was wingman and I would rent a boat to Cholon and Playa Blanca with us bringing two girls each. The two I were bringing were going to be Temporary Wifey and her amiga. She dropped the ball when it really counted. More on that later. Throughout the trip I would make plans for two others. We set up the boat trip through the property manager who knew a guy who knew a guy. 1400 mill for a 10 person boat between 8 am and 5:30 pm. I settle in and choose the appetizer of the trip.

[B]La Reina Del Sexo Anal (#1)[/B]

"La Reina Del Sexo Anal" from photoprepago. I was already out so I stopped by her rinky dink apartment 8 min away from Clock Tower. She asked for 150 mil and she got it. She was not, however, the queen of anal. Ridiculously tiny bootyhole. She definitely tried but. It wasn't happening. A for effort. I gave up during the power outage that happened 15 minutes into my arrival. 3. 5 Sex, 3. 4 BBBJ, massage was 6. 4 though. I did the massage because I came fast and wanted to use my full hour. Venezuelan chica with a soft bubble butt and really long hair. Not mind blowing and no further details worth mentioning. Get that first one out the way quickly for the sake of Post-Nut Clarity.

I stayed up all night so I'm ready to chill. I go home and relax for a few hours then prepare for the evening festivities. Hunger strikes and I find myself on a rooftop bar who had really good fried shrimp (Terreza) that overlooks the Plaza between 8 ish and 10 pm, you can slowly see the crowd transition. From tourists to tricks. The sounds of horseshoes starts to mix with the sounds of high heels entering the Plaza. The smell of horse shit starts to mix with cheap perfume. The crowd came and went in waves. Right at 8 pm, packed with tourists. I'm talking families, baby strollers, and couples; young and old. And of course the Cartagena see*Squad. 9 pm, kind of empties out. I counted 10 ish obvious see*Squad workers barely worth mentioning. Deadpool is also here, texting and wielding swords. He's so out of place. 10 pm, more of a mix but the be*Band is starting to arrive. The workers are literally just Standing There as previously mentioned 100's of times on the forum. No exaggeration. One chica got bumped and didn't even move a foot or stop staring at her phone. Discipline. I head to Dolce Vita right around 10 pm and it's still pretty dead. There's definitely a few early birds in there trying to get this worm. Within 5 min I spot her.

[B]Ghenesis (#2)[/B]

A sexy mixed Colombian+Venezuelan chica with the big soft ass barely contained by a black cotton skirt arrives. Instantly sold. She goes by Ghenesis. She asks for 300 mil for 4 hours after I buy her a Corona for 13 mil. Not a terrible deal honestly, but I didn't want that much time. We settle on two hours for 200 mil. We walk a few minutes back to my house where we drink a bit more, shower together and get down to business. 6. 8 sex, No BBBJ, 9. 3 GFE, but only for the agreed upon time as expected. We shower again then head back to LDV around 1 am and it is PACKED with the A*Team. I'm overwhelmed at how beautiful these women are. With Ghenesis next to me, they're eyeing me, calling at me, grabbing on me, treating me like the piece of meat that I am. It's disgusting. I loved it. I really attempted to count the amount of "fuckable" bitches to report here and I lost count after 50. Even if your standards are unusually high, there's probably something there for you at LDV. Me and Ghenesis separate and I toss back a few drinks waiting to recoup for tonight's grand finale.

Fast forward an hour and I grab more food at the rooftop bar again. The Plaza now has the A*Team, be*Band, and see*Squad in full effect. I head back down the street to check out Space. It's okay. Be*Band in full effect. I've finally realized I just don't like Space. I can't put a finger on it. Vibes or something. I swing back over to LDV around 3:30 and it's winding down. After a few more drinks I head outside for fresh air. I walk to the Plaza and the police are scurrying the chicas. Seriously, the police are doubled up on a bike doing a figure-8 to scatter the chicas. Chicas disappear within 3 min. Magic. I'm amazed at the resemblance this has to a herding dog doing this with its cattle. I'm empty handed because I didn't want to settle. I had a sweet tooth for a slim morena with a tear-drop bubble butt. I walk back to LDV for a final hunt. This Little Annoying Bit comes up to me and starts talking my head off. I clearly, and immediately, exhibit disinterest. "I'm no scort you don't have to pay me", she says. I tell her idgaf because she's so damn flat and annoying. While she's talking my head off, of course the slim type I'm looking for walks passed and we lock eyes. I'm glad these chicas are ruthless AF and don't care who you're with. She stood at the corner for a few seconds looking back at me.

[B]Leidy (#3)[/B]

The Little Annoying Bit just doesn't get the hint so I abruptly walk off mid sentence and gesture to Leidy to follow me. My gut tells me she's the one. And damn she was! Super skinny. Morena. Friendly and fun as hell. Features you would expect of a runway model: Long thin legs, super symmetrical face, and this walk that'll turn any head. She asks for 200 mil and I counter with 150 mil plus propina. She quickly accepts and by the time the negotiation ends, we're at my front door. I know many have their preferences, however, I'll never stay in Laguito again. To each is own. She's so surprised at the entrance and living room. So surprised that she decides to model on the kitchen table for me. We did a mini photoshoot on the kitchen table. I feel like a king out here. Good for my self-esteem I presume. We head to the shower where she lets me do whatever I want for as long as I want. Hands down she had the best tasting bootyhole I've ever had. I swear she put a cherry Jolly Rancher in her ass and let it melt earlier. Complete GFE. Awesome vibes made me feel like she was an old friend. After we finish around 6 am, I tell her she's welcome to sleep with me and she immediately obliges and jumps under the covers. Her night being over played a factor here for sure. She squeezed me so tight and cuddled like newlyweds until we woke. In the morning I gave her 210 mil and she was very happy. She deserved the tip. 7.7 sex, 7.9 BBBJ, 10 GFE. I can tell she's going to be a repeat. And she was. More on that later.

[B]Day 2 (Thursday): [/B]

Coolin out today until my wingman arrives at 3. I head to San Valentin for a delicious fried shrimp meal. Wingman arrives, first time in Colombia. The look on a man's face when he sees The Plaza full of women for the first time is priceless. We spend the day pregaming for the nightly festivities. It's 10:30 and we walk the plaza. He's clearly overwhelmed and can't choose his appetizer but he's on a mission. Within 10 minutes he chooses shortly after I settle on my 4th course.

[B]Maria (#4)[/B]

I've been eyeing this super cute, light skin, tiny Venezuelan chica with wide hips and bubble ass in the plaza. She was mad chill, negotiated very easily to 150 mil. The four of us are back at the house drinking, smoking, listening to music, just having a good time. Maria seems a little down as if she wasn't enjoying herself. I inquire as to why she seems so down. Fellas, I Really wish I hadn't. Vibes are all high and she hits me with the "My grandma just died". Fuck. That would make me sad also. Her statement is either: 1.) a lie. Or 2.) the truth. Either way I'm still fuckin. I reply "damn lo siento, shower?" She's so easy going, did everything I asked for. 17 strokes in from the back, I notice that statement earlier was probably option #2. I know these hoes lie all the time, about anything, for money. However, she did seem like someone whose grandma just died. I always try to remove my heart from the equation during hunting season. Keyword: try. I nut quickly and get her the fuck out of there after paying her the agreed upon rate. 1.4 Sex, 2.2 BBBJ, 2. 7 GFE. Rendezvous with wingman after he finished his session and we head back out to eat around 1 am. From a balcony, wingman spots a couple of chicas he didn't get a chance to speak to earlier. He drops fork and is downstairs in 5 seconds. I see him exchanging info from the balcony then returns to tell me their both Colombian sisters from Medellin both with the crazy heavy butt.

Around 1 am, we enter LDV and that First Time Jaw Drop wingman has makes my day again. LDV is packed even more than yesterday. We hang out for a while critiquing the chicas, dancing, interviewing, and drinking. A very helpful tip I picked up some time ago is to show love to the establishments you frequent. I cannot stress this enough. Imagine two scenarios:

1.) You walk into a crowded club where nobody knows you, have to muscle through to the bar, have to do jumping jacks to get a bartenders' attention, ask for what you want in a foreign language, risk miscommunication, order incorrectly, you feel unhappy, you settle for the first and worst chica, the worst chica steals all of your money, passport and cell phone. Now you're stuck as a bum in a foreign country. Don't get stuck as a bum in a foreign country and get rid of cable and upgrade to DirectTV.

OR 2.) Because you showed love yesterday (I tipped the equivalent of around $12 US), The bartenders and waiters especially recognize your face, run to welcome you with open arms, shout "Amigoooooo!" Ask if you want "the usual" although it was only one time yesterday, and chicas in the establishment go "damn why is that gringo so important", and now they're all waiting in line to suck your dick. I'll choose the scenario 2.) EVERY time. Fast forward to 3:25 am and I see this ridiculously large ass on this light skin Venezuelan that I've got to try on for size.

[B]Mily (#5)[/B]

Asked for 300 mil. Settled on 200 mil. For the hour. Sweet girl, horrible boob job once she's naked, super thick with a relatively smaller waist. Face was probably a 6.3. But That Ass Though. Humongous and soft. Even the chicas that saw it had their eyebrows raised. 5.7 Sex, 6.0 BBBJ, 5.0 GFE. I end my night as she exits around 5 am and knock out.

[B]Day 3 (Friday The 13th):[/B]

Wingman and I head to grab food. San Valentin again because there were several things I wanted to try on their menu. Delicious langostinos al ajillo presented in a shell. Lots of water, rice and veggies to help bring me back to life. Wingman and I separate as he is in search for a professional massage and I'm in search for the opposite. Allow my opinion in an attempt to make sense of some controversy within these pages: Here's probably why some would say it's hard to find chicas walking the streets during the day; because it is. BUT those that say that are likely individuals who do not have a WhatsApp contact list FULL of chicas acquired throughout their stay (s). Walking around the busy streets between 1 pm and 4 pm I found one chica I would actually fuck. She was pretty as hell, super wide hips, but her ass was so damn weak it's a shame she can identify as a Colombiana. She asked for 250 mil. I told her 200 mil but it must include photos and videos. That is always a contingency before I session and I'm fair if they elect not to include their face. I'll tip better if they do. She said 200 mil but she was adamant no photos. I stick to my criteria and on to the next. I text a girl I met last night who was a sweetheart and tell her I want my tongue in that butt for 150 mil. She says sorry because she's an hour away, BUT immediately introduces me to her friend Cielo.

[B]Cielo (#6)[/B]

She was referred to me by her friend I booked last night. The importance of having a contact list at your disposal. I get home and she send me pictures of her friend Cielo. I immediately agree after I see her tiny waist and extremely large ass and perfectly aged the cups. She was a darker skinned Colombian with a pretty face. Cielo texts me shortly after I agree with her friend and sends a pic of her asshole. A hilarious moment we all shared: Cielo text the wrong number first so my number neighbor just received a random pic of an asshole LMAO. I like her already. She knew exactly what I wanted. I tell her to come right now and she ask for 15 minutes to get dressed and she'll be over. She shows up in 15 minutes and I'm even more impressed, thinking I'the be waiting. She pulls up, walks in and instantly drops clothes and jumps into my arms. This chick could fuck! One of the softest, biggest asses on a nonexistent waist. She worked in front of the camera too. 9.2 Sex, 8.2 BBBJ, 10 GFE. I wish I got a chance to repeat with her. I gave her the agreed 150 mil + 30 mil propina since she stayed a while and let me do everything I wanted. Her friend even text me later to see how our session went. I loved the follow up!

After chillin in the crib a few hours, me and wingman head to get food and watch the talent walk into the Plaza. Around 11:30, wingman spots the sister chicas from yesterday he didn't get a chance with from a balcony. He text her to wait for him downstairs. She replied that she already saw us. Either Colombians have excellent vision or we just stuck out like sore thumbs even a few floors above the Plaza. I have yet to see the other sister up close so I'm not pressed. We finish eating, walk up to the sisters then I play my wingman part. He chooses the shorter more hood looking type and leaves the older, more classy type to me. He is instantly sold and doesn't wait for my interview with the other sister to finish before he leaves.

[B]Angela (#7)[/B]

Initially, I planned to wait until later. She asks for 250 mil, I counter with the usual 150, and she says she'll do 200 mil. For the hour. Well, chick, so will I. After talking with her, her NAILING the interview, and me learning that she actually was funny and pretty intelligent, I couldn't resist. She was physically AND mentally attractive. She was so relaxed. Pretty face. She was very nasty too. Very cliche Lady In The Street, Freak In The Sheets type. She loved sucking my balls, which I'm not a fan of, but she was a pro ball sucker. I'the let her do it again. Pro dick sucker too. She also had a fetish for sniffing my gooch LOL, which was a first. As the gentleman I am, I returned the favor and sniffed her too which turned her on to no end. I loved having her huge, soft bubble butt in my face anyway. Finally she hit me with the reverse cowgirl while I was on the couch and made her ass clap simultaneously. NUT. 9.2 Sex, 8.5 BBBJ, 9.1 GFE. She was an excellent choice that I am sure to repeat with. I love a freaky chick. I even drop a hint we [I]might[/I] be renting a boat Sunday and she [I]might[/I] be invited. More on that later too. After wingman and I finish, we head to LDV yet again. I tell him about Space and he wants to check it out. We head over but they're asking for a cover at the door. We look at each other and say aloud "Fuck That" and walk into LDV. It's even more packed today. With the super Post-Nut Clarity, wingman and I can enjoy the show for a while just having a good time.

[B]Carolina (#8)[/B]

4 am rolls around and I've turned down a lot of chicas because I'm searching for a specific type: short, nerdy, tiny everywhere except her ass. Me and wingman do another street lap and walk back inside. I spot her and we instantly lock eyes. Cute and quirky little pothead. Super wide hips with the matching butt. Glasses and a bullring piercing. Nice tattoos all over. We stare at each other for 10 seconds then she comes running to hug me like she hasn't seen me in years. Wingman nods knowing instantly that I've chosen as I mentioned to him earlier my taste for the night. He's dancing with his selection and we both head out to the house. This little chica could not stop giggling. When she saw the smoke on the table she got extremely hyper. I had her roll some up and we smoked and chilled before heading to our rooms. She even pulled out a bowl from her purse and packed a few hits. I know a pothead when I see one. I was wasted at this point. Wingman and his girl found the tiny quirky girl on my shoulders doing all types of drunk shit. She was really cool and fun, but extremely ditzy. 6. 3 Sex, 7. 2 BBBJ, 3. 7 GFE. I end my night with her around 6 am.

[B]Day 4 (Saturday. Colombian Valentines Day)[/B]

I got very lucky. I didn't know today would be the Colombian Valentines Day. Apparently it's a big thing. All of the Colombian chicas are in a red dress and there's decoration inside a lot of the establishments at night, especially La Dolce Vita. And there's a LOT of people in the clubs. Temporary Wifey hits me up around 4 pm and tells me she missed her flight and she'll be on the next one in an hour. I instantly write her off. She texts back telling me how mad she is and something happened with her second flight and she will arrive tomorrow. I tell her to never write me again. Temporary is temporary. I don't care how many crying emojis she sends. Me and wingman did more typical tourist shit like walking the streets, shops, food, semi-tours. Fast forward, we find ourselves back at, you guessed it, LDV, around 11:30. Worth noting every chica's starting rate was 300 mil tonight. I also notice a lot of gringos acting like gringos. Go figure.

[B]Andrea (#9)[/B]

11:33 I'm leaving with this bad chica from Medellin. I got her down to 250 mil because I just had to have her. I leave wingman there to fend for himself. She loves taking nude selfies of herself with my iPhone. A real pro in front of the camera I might add. We get down to business after I stop drooling over her perfectly shaped natural body. She attempts to give me a CBJ and I instantly decline. She folds and gives me one of the best BBBJs on the trip. Her pussy was extremely tight. Which is unfortunate for me. Being above average and running out of Golden Tickets, I had to settle for the Colombian Preventor Condom. Man that condom sucks. I know better to not bring enough but somehow I left my extra extras at home. I'm only mentioning this because halfway into a rough ass doggy session, it pops without us knowing. I bust all wild and crazy inside her and let my dick marinate inside her for minutes after we finish. We both notice what has happened and the mood quickly changes. No use crying over spilled leche, right? She asks for 50 mil for the morning after pill. Yeah right. I noticed how she used her sharp ass nails to put the condom on. 7.8 Sex, 9.5 BBBJ, 8. 8 GFE (until the incident). Back to LDV to meet with wingman.

[B]Jessica (#10)[/B]

I return around 1 am to meet with wingman and it's crazy inside the place. 100+ Colombian women in red dresses. They're everywhere. Except the Venezuelans. They weren't celebrating and I found that out when I asked Jessica why she was wearing black. She was very relaxed but dancing by herself the entire time and giving nobody any attention until I gestured her to come over. She was So. Fucking. Soft. Soft everywhere. Not hot but cute. Smooth skin, light hair, always smiling. She danced like she could fuck your brains out. Wingman has chosen a repeat from the other night with a freckled light skin Venezuelan. We take them back to the house and our dates mesh well together. We're dancing and drinking and smoking in the house. The girls are laughing and joking with us and each other. Wingman gets a crazy idea that we should throw pesos off of the balcony. We do and it starts a tiny riot in the street. The chicas found it hilarious. After another photo session with Jessica, we get down to business. 8.8 Sex, No BBBJ, 8. 8 GFE. She was so fun I drop a hint to her about the boat we're renting tomorrow. And by tomorrow, I mean in 5 hours. She loves the idea. She wants money of course. She asks for 500 mil. The previous chicas I've been with have also asked for that same 500 mil when I inquired. It's crunch time and I could have done a better job at securing free chicas. I snoozed and lost and paid for it. I negotiate her down to 400 mil and lay out a criteria for her to follow. One specifically, she is to not stop dancing the entire boat trip LOL. She agrees to be at my house at 9 am. Recall Angela (#7), she is still on ice waiting for my confirmation to invite her on the boat. I lock her down too because wingman is taking her sister. This should be fun. I get her down to 400 mil as well with the my expectations.

It's 6 am and Leidy (#3) is texting me. She's been a sweetheart this entire trip trying to plan to see me and just hang out. Video chatting me while she's out and about doing her daily activities like the gym. I kind of felt bad because I haven't been receptive to her and girls like her don't come around too often. Dare I say 20% of the time? Well on this trip, 2 out of 10 wanted to just "hang out". In other words, hang out without money directly exchanged for sex. Kind of like here in America LOL. She tells me she's near my house and asks if I'm with another chica. I tell her no and she's welcome to come sleep with me. She's a great cuddler. She quickly shows up and we head to the shower. At this point I'm exhausted, need to be up in three hours, and my balls are completely empty. My intentions were to simply go to sleep with her. Damn her for coming over all sexy, smelling good and dancing in the shower. We had another excellent session. This time the BBBJ was 8.7. I tell her my plans for the boat and Cholon / Playa Blanca. I toss an invite to her. Especially since wingman didn't lock down his 2nd chica. She declines initially then I see her wheels turning. She says she would have to go home to get her bathing suit and stuff. I tell her we can pick up a bathing suit and stuff in the morning before we leave and her eyes light up. She agrees to come for no money. We exchanged massages and finally fell asleep for an hour.

[B]Day 5 (Sunday. Cholon, Playa Blanca)[/B]

It's 9 am and my alarm is going off. Bad fucking move staying up so late having to get ready to leave to be on a boat for an entire day. The tour manager and captain would arrive at my house at 9:30. Angela (#7), her sister (my wingmans date), and Jessica (#10) all pull up at the house around 9:15. Leidy (#3) is still in my bed sleep. She's woken up by the sweet sounds of Anuel AA blaring from my bluetooth speaker that Jessica is playing to get the party started as I encouraged a few hours ago. She was also tasked with being the boat's DJ and grass roller. We leave the house, the 6 of us + tour manager and captain. Wingman and his date and me and my 3 dates. We grab a few things like water, beer and snacks before we catch a taxi to the pier. Tour manager knew a way to avoid the 17 mil / per person tax by catching a taxi to another pier 10 minutes away. We board and set off for an amazing time. At this point me and wingman have broken all ice and got the girls all warmed up and having fun with each other. Lots of dancing, picture taking, drinking, and smoking. We had a great time and I would totally recommend a boat trip to Cholon and Playa Blanca if you've never been. Simply put, Cholon is a party island. At Playa Blanca we swam together and did a bunch of beach shit. I wouldn't go there without secured chicas though. Most of the women I saw there were already cuffed. I also didn't do any hunting while off the boat.

We return from a full day of fun back to the house where the grand finale begins. I had every intention to pull off three, but I just couldn't. Not after a night like last night. Jessica ended up getting too wasted and high, which was okay with me because I was pretty much done, so she was dismissed after a while once we settled in my house. Immediately after I'm showering with Leidy and Angela. If you've never had the Double Hand Colombian Shampoo Special I highly recommend it. Angela wasn't really with the threesome, and I never planned to so I had her wait while I fucked Leidy. Session this time was 8.2. I then told Leidy I wanted her to wait in the kitchen for me while I fucked Angela. Session this time was 9.3 and BBBJ was 8. 8. This time she used this icing lube shit and put it on me before she sucked it. It was actually delicious and I put some on her and devoured her holes. After we finished and Angela leaves, I invited Leidy back from the kitchen to chill for a while then we'the go for a real date later that night. Her eyes lit up. She told me she would go home and get pretty for me.

She returned in an hour around 9 and we went off on a real date. Food and drinks first. Then we walked the street hand-holding and kissing. We looked like a real couple. Especially taking touristy photos in the streets as she pointed out significant buildings to me. Next she took me to her favorite bar about 12 min walking from the Clock Tower. It was very low-key but I loved every moment of it. Not a chica in sight at this bar. We danced the night away until we couldn't stop yawning. Realizing she wasn't expecting any money, I give her the last of my pesos. I over budgeted around 300 mil and giving it to her was well worth it. Especially considering she's been with me since 6 am and doing another TLN tonight. She was not expecting it and gave me a heartfelt thank you. We headed back to my house for another shower and session before we fall asleep.

[B]Day 6 (Monday)[/B]

I wake up Leidy with my tongue in her ass. I had a feeling I would be late for a real breakfast with her. I've only got 30 min before I need to head to the airport. I used 29 min of the 30 to get a final session with new Temporary Wifey. The last minute was spent rushing to get my shit together and her helping. I tell her I need to hit an ATM for the taxi and she tells me not to worry and tells me she'll pay for my taxi. What a sweetheart. She's definitely on the team now. She hails me a taxi and sends me off with a huge hug and kiss like any good (temporary) wife should.

[B]TL; DR[/B]

Stayed near Clock Tower Wednesday 11th to Monday 16th in Airbnb with wingman. Fucked 10 bitches. Good to Great sessions. 150 mil-250 mil. The Plaza and La Dolce Vita was always packed after 11 pm. Had a great time on a boat. Got lots of footage. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]That's a report! And that's how you do it! Sound like you was living that life my man!

[QUOTE=RockPaper7777;2372664]Evidently, dental care is cheaper and more available in Colombia. [/QUOTE]Many US guys go to Medellin not (only) for the girls, but to get some important dental therapy. Quality is good, and of course prices are much cheaper than in USA, where anything related to health care is prohibitively expensive.

This was mentioned several times even on the Medellin thread of ISG. You can search there for details, if you are curious.

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2372416]Readers, allow me to provide the community with some updates for Cartagena from my point of view. It's lengthy because I wanted to provide as much detail as possible to help new people navigate Cartagena as best as possible. Photos included, but with respect to the promise of their privacy, their faces are hidden..[/QUOTE]That's what I call a "Report" Enjoyed reading it. Thanks! For posting.

[QUOTE=RockPaper7777;2372664]A full course of this dental treatment costs US $6000-10000. I wouldn't have thought that these local girls could have afforded it. Evidently, dental care is cheaper and more available in Colombia. [/QUOTE]In Colombia a complete course comes to about 200 usd. I know because I am investing in the future of my VZ GF by paying for her "brackets".

That's much more affordable, even in relation to the lower minimum salary.

So, if you are a dentist, work in the US. And if you have teeth, don't go near the place. Unless you belong to the upper class.

In World Health Organization ranking of health systems in 2000, USA is ranked 37, Colombia is ranked 22 in Overall health system performance. In Health expenditure per capita in international dollars, USA is ranked 1, the world's most expensive health system.

[QUOTE=RockPaper7777;2372664]Just a point of information for those anticipating a trip to CTL, many of the chicas strolling about the Clock Tower, have braces on their teeth. The girls call them "brackets' in espanol. This struck me as an oddity, as nowhere else in the world have I seen "escorts" with braces. I have always figured that in the US, braces were found on upper middle class teenage girls. A full course of this dental treatment costs US $6000-10000. I wouldn't have thought that these local girls could have afforded it. Evidently, dental care is cheaper and more available in Colombia. Not just the braces, but the general condition of the girls' teeth is excellent. Beautiful white teeth, excellent dental hygiene. Just makes them even more kissable. CTL, what a great place to practice the monger art. Comments?[/QUOTE]I am assuming you never been to Pattaya, braces on the escorts is very common there.

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2372416]Readers, allow me to provide the community with some updates for Cartagena from my point of view. It's lengthy because I wanted to provide as much detail as possible to help new people navigate Cartagena as best as possible. Photos included, but with respect to the promise of their privacy, their faces are hidden..[/QUOTE]Great report intercoarse. I am planning to go to Cartagena in a couple of days. Your report makes me feel envy. Ja, ja. Thanks. Useful information.

[QUOTE=Luminous;2371126]Does anyone have information on guest policy at IBIS hotel in Cartagena? My friends are recommending it but I want to make sure they don't create problems with visitors?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I know someone who has all the definitive information regarding the guest policy at the IBIS hotel.

He works at the IBIS hotel and can be reached 24/7 by phone or by email from his website under the name SUPPORT or under the name CONTACT US.

He can answer your question with a written definitive answer from a position of authority.

[QUOTE=Lalela;2372465]I have never stayed at this IBIS personally, but when I contacted them they confirmed that guests are okay as long as you book the room for 2 people you will not be charged extra. They will as for the chica's ID upon entering, that's all. I have stayed at the IBIS in Bogota and never had any problems there. Also going to Brazil in January and staying at an IBIS there after confirming the same policy.[/QUOTE]This is standard for most hotels and works fine for the first girl.

If you bring a different girl the second night, you got an issue as she is not registered.

Most have a guest fee up to $100 for the second girl and any girl after.

Best to contact the hotel yourself and be direct about what you plan to do and get real answers.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2366071]No more daily cigar. There's story behind the quitting, but I'll spare you the boring details!

Don't get to the beach as frequently either, but do always at least swing thru one day if for nothing more to say Hello, or to get a pedicure from Emily or Luz Marie.

You had fun and they were able to eat the next day from your show of appreciation-ain't nothing wrong with that!

Best wishes and happy travels to you, John Gault.[/QUOTE]I am making a special three day trip from Medellin to see Emily and Luz. They are now like family.

I have not been to Cartagena in 6 years. I'm going to be there in a few days. I will report on how it is and my experiences and try to avoid comparing it to how it was before because that's not really helpful now. I do want to know one thing, is Tony still a figure on Playa Hollywood? I always avoided him because I just don't like dealing with touts but this time I'm thinking about checking it out because I've never had any luck finding prepagos on the beach. Anyone have any input on this? How to go about dealing with Tony or how to best find prepagos on the beach?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2375294]I have not been to Cartagena in 6 years. I'm going to be there in a few days. I will report on how it is and my experiences and try to avoid comparing it to how it was before because that's not really helpful now. I do want to know one thing, is Tony still a figure on Playa Hollywood? I always avoided him because I just don't like dealing with touts but this time I'm thinking about checking it out because I've never had any luck finding prepagos on the beach. Anyone have any input on this? How to go about dealing with Tony or how to best find prepagos on the beach?[/QUOTE]There are always touts around at Playa Hollywood and along that stretch of bocagrande beaches, if it's not Tony it's someone else. I personally found Tony to be too obnoxious. As for chicks, if you keep your eyes open you won't need any touts to help you. Go to the beach after 11:00-12:00 and walk the beach. If you see attractive chicas sitting either alone or in small groups (not families) just strike up a conversation. You're going to find out quickly if they're prepagos just by asking if they want to spend time with you. Big advantage is you see first hand what their bodies look like as most are wearing thong bikinis! Please write trip report after. If you don't see any chicas at the beach, order from mileroticos or photoprepagos sites.

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2372416]Readers, allow me to provide the community with some updates for Cartagena from my point of view. It's lengthy because I wanted to provide as much detail as possible to help new people navigate Cartagena as best as possible. Photos included, but with respect to the promise of their privacy, their faces are hidden..[/QUOTE]Awesome! Do you speak Spanish well? And can English speakers get by?

[QUOTE=TadaiMaybe;2375359]There are always touts around at Playa Hollywood and along that stretch of bocagrande beaches, if it's not Tony it's someone else. I personally found Tony to be too obnoxious. As for chicks, if you keep your eyes open you won't need any touts to help you. Go to the beach after 11:00-12:00 and walk the beach. If you see attractive chicas sitting either alone or in small groups (not families) just strike up a conversation. You're going to find out quickly if they're prepagos just by asking if they want to spend time with you. Big advantage is you see first hand what their bodies look like as most are wearing thong bikinis! Please write trip report after. If you don't see any chicas at the beach, order from mileroticos or photoprepagos sites.[/QUOTE]There may very well be many touts along the beach in Bocagrande and there may be prepagos all along the beach also, but unless the situation has changed drastically the largest concentration of prepagos on the beach are going to be in Playa Hollywood, and Tony may be obnoxious but I am betting that he knows every prepago on that beach, one of the hottest Prepagos I ever took home form LDV was visiting from Bucaramanga and she said that girls all over Colombia know that they can get work through Tony, these are the kind of chicas I like they are not hardened mechanical pros, they come into Cartagena from various cities around Colombia some fly some are on a bus for days, and they work for a period of time and make some money and go back home, I find these to be the best experience.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2375400]Awesome! Do you speak Spanish well? And can English speakers get by?[/QUOTE]My Spanish is malo, pero, anyone can get by just fine with a few words and a couple smiles. I didn't run into many English speaking chicas. Use Google Translate (download Spanish offline translation) or a calculator if All Else Fails. I've tried to learned more Spanish between now and my last trip in February but I'm still far from fluent. The more Spanish I learn, the more fun it is interacting with the chicas! They love when you can joke with them en espanol.

[QUOTE=CrazyDreamer;2373866]Great report intercoarse. I am planning to go to Cartagena in a couple of days. Your report makes me feel envy. Ja, ja. Thanks. Useful information.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Please share your experience! I wish you an awesome trip with a story to tell that may make others envy you as well.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2372695]That's a report! And that's how you do it! Sound like you was living that life my man![/QUOTE]I try to make the best of all of my experiences. This trip definitely had a story worthy of sharing.

[QUOTE=Global00;2372691]Great report! Thanks for contributing. Cartagena is not one of my favorite places in Colombia but you report made me want to give it another chance LOL! And your banter was great LOL! Glad you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]Of course! I've picked up a lot from these boards. It's only right to contribute. You know. For the next guy.

There is the official policy that they will tell you on email / phone and then there is unofficial policy of what actually happens. That't what I was requesting with my post.

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2374841]This is standard for most hotels and works fine for the first girl.

If you bring a different girl the second night, you got an issue as she is not registered.

Most have a guest fee up to $100 for the second girl and any girl after.

Best to contact the hotel yourself and be direct about what you plan to do and get real answers.[/QUOTE]

I had to work a late shift the night before I flew down here, long story short I started my first night going on 30 hours of not sleeping but not wanting to blow a Saturday night. I killed some time in Getsemani eating dinner in swanky hotel restaurant, then took in the scene at Cafe Havana for a bit. My brain was running on autopilot and I made the walk from Getsemani to the Plaza de LOS Coches. It was only a little after 11 and there may have been 30 or so chicas hanging out, and s handful of then were beautiful and s couple of them had natural looking slim bodies that I like. They all started at 250 mill but quckly agreed on 200, But damn it if none of them would agree to chupar sin condóand. That's a deal breaker for me. They can put a condom on a broom stick and suck in it across the room and I would get the same satisfaction. My spirit wanted to hold out and hit Dolce Vita, and maybe space but my body was giving out so I decided to grab a hot one with a tight little body and beautiful face and just do what ever she would before I fell asleep, back at the apartment she would not do BBBJ, anyone else having this problem or is it just me.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2376105] back at the apartment she would not do BBBJ, anyone else having this problem or is it just me.[/QUOTE]No, it's not just you.

Over these years, I noticed that more and more girls in CTG stick to do everything covered including BJ. For me, BBBJ is a must. This, instead of being annoying, simply forced me to spend more time in chatting around with girls, going to Space, enjoy nightlife. I go to CTG not to have a quick deed as in a Casa, but to enjoy good food, good restaurants, the nice place, and of course the girls. I am used to not take a girl with me to my apartment before at least 2 am, after having enjoyed my night out.

There are many sexy girls who are willing to do BBJ, but we must spend some time in seeking them in the crowd. More fun. When you go fishing, I believe the fun is not taking the fish into your bucket, but spending good time on a river enjoying nature, right?

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2374835]I know someone who has all the definitive information regarding the guest policy at the IBIS hotel.
He works at the IBIS hotel and can be reached 24/7 by phone or by email from his website under the name SUPPORT or under the name CONTACT US.
He can answer your question with a written definitive answer from a position of authority.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt that any decent hotel employee in Colombia, especially in CTG, could put in writing from the hotel desk "we do not mind if you bring a different girl to sleep with you every night". There are questions that can be asked only verbally...

This is coming from guy who has not been to Cartagena since LDV was in El Laguito, what I will hence forth refer to as the good old days. I am not a fan of the and "new" place, I read where somebody talked about dancing with the chicas, where do you dance? I went in there at what I thought was early, at a little after 11 pm. I went by to recon the location got "pinned down" standing on the sidewalk by some touts trying to convince me to go to another place they were carrying flyers for, and then when I said I was going into LDV later they told me I should go now and get my bracelet. Still not sure what the point of the bracelet is when there is no cover but I thought I had nothing to lose and went inside. I was surprised that the place was starting to get packed, I started going around buying chicas drinks which is my thing because I do not drink and do not want to feel like a sponge. Then I saw two cuties and one was about an 8 with a thin body. So I offered 200 k but she replied that I would have to take her friend and it would be 250 k each and I just didn't like the price or the vibe of it plus her friend wasn't that cute so I walked away. I started chatting (as much as one can because the place is loud as hell which most clubs are but when your Spanish is limited anyway it just isn't copacetic) with other chicas as best as one can in such a cramped environment, there were a couple of chicas I would have talked to but there was no getting through the wall of people and chairs between us. It is not a good set up, maybe I could get used to it but I sure do miss the old place.

So I was really about to call it off and head to the clock tower when I spotted this sweet thin little thing with perky breast, I was so frustrated with the situation that I (here comes the yelling at me LOL which I deserve) I decided just to offer her 250 K so we could just get out of there, since every other chica was starting there. Then the strangest thing happened, she came back with 200 K. No really! I did a double take and asked her if she did BBBJ, and she took my translator / phone and typed in "any way you like baby". I felt like I had found a unicorn. She stayed for about three hours. Full GFE.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2376146]I seriously doubt that any decent hotel employee in Colombia, especially in CTG, could put in writing from the hotel desk "we do not mind if you bring a different girl to sleep with you every night". There are questions that can be asked only verbally...[/QUOTE]The question asked was, what is the guest policy of the IBIS hotel. I recommended he go to the source, the hotel itself to get an answer.

The standard answer from a hotel would tell you what the policy is for the different girls every night.

Example: Our policy is that all guests must be registered. The first guest registered to a double booking is free. All further guests registered have an associated registration fee of $ XX.

It is well referenced in the forums that if you plan on having a different girl every night, hotels are not a good option. You need to find an BnB or rent a condo with a liberal guest policy.

I was telling this chica that I was considering returning to Cartagena from Medellin earlier than I originally planned but needed to find a chica friendly place, she tells me that she has done TLN at Hotel Dann. She said it was not a problem. Anyone know if this is accurate: I will investigate this myself but if anyone has a quick answer that would be cool too.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2372088]Hit and killed (me). No, I never sat down and ate there, and therefore you are justified to knock at my door and call me "unreliable commenter". [i]Touche'[/i].

However, I have walked in front of it several times (Av. S. Martin, right?) and honestly the visual impression it gives is that it is just one of the many tourist places where to have lunch, at best. This does not mean it is a tourist trap, or it is necessarily a place where bad food is served, and ok when I named it "fast food" I was exaggerated or unfair, but NO WAY I could think it is one of the best restaurants in Cartagena. Am I wrong? Did I miss the top restaurant of Cartagena because negatively biased by its look? Ok, my fault, sorry.

Now you made me curious, and of course I feel hit by your comment, so I rushed to check Tripadvisor. I don't trust Tripadvisor in general, but it may help to get some idea.
In this case, Tripadvisor ranks Harvey "#243 of 831 Restaurants in Cartagena" with score 4.0. By chance, the first 2 comments I read are "Local place for a quick meal", "Average at best".
As a comparison, Tripadvisor ranks Carbon de Palo 4.5 and "#59 of 831 Restaurants in Cartagena" and Cuzco 4.5 "#33 of 831 Restaurants in Cartagena".
Now guess what? Tripadvisor ranks Restaurant #1 in Cartagena a place called LA TAPERIA (:eek:), so my conclusion is: forget TripAdvisor! :(

Now let me reverse it back on you. Did you ever have dinner at Cuzco and Santisimo? Where would you take your most significant one for a romantic dinner? Is the ambient at Harvey's elegant as at Cuzco? Are dishes so good? Tell me I am too negatively biased by my visual impression, but I will keep on considering Cuzco two categories higher and preferring it for my dinners.[/QUOTE]Av San Martin, correct. The comment you read saying "local place" is correct; it's not frequented by tourists, especially not foreign tourists. In all the times I have been there, it's predominantly been locals on their lunch break from work. I was first taken there by a local. Being a lunch spot frequented by locals on their lunch break, that jives with there not being a Trip Advisor cult following. The restaurant has good Colombian food for lunch, with quite a varied menu. I typically prefer to sit inside the small dining area, in which I don't recall ever seeing a foreigner.

I have had the pleasure of dining at El Santismo, yes. I can't speak for Cuzco, but have heard good things. You are correct in saying that Harvey's is not comparable to El Santismo, nor from what I've heard about Cuzco. Total different type of restaurants, and much different ambiance.

There was no cause to throw out insults toward Harvey's when it was obvious that one had a prejudice that was not based on his actual experience. Nonetheless, the point you make in re to Harvey's not being in the same category as El Santisimo or Cuzco is well taken, but then it's not trying to be.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2374886]I am making a special three day trip from Medellin to see Emily and Luz. They are now like family.[/QUOTE]If they are like family, then that would make us related, LOL. Tell them their brother says Hello,.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2376432]This is coming from guy who has not been to Cartagena since LDV was in El Laguito, what I will hence forth refer to as the good old days. I am not a fan of the and "new" place, I read where somebody talked about dancing with the chicas, where do you dance? I went in there at what I thought was early, at a little after 11 pm. I went by to recon the location got "pinned down" standing on the sidewalk by some touts trying to convince me to go to another place they were carrying flyers for, and then when I said I was going into LDV later they told me I should go now and get my bracelet. Still not sure what the point of the bracelet is when there is no cover but I thought I had nothing to lose and went inside. I was surprised that the place was starting to get packed, I started going around buying chicas drinks which is my thing because I do not drink and do not want to feel like a sponge. Then I saw two cuties and one was about an 8 with a thin body. So I offered 200 k but she replied that I would have to take her friend and it would be 250 k each and I just didn't like the price or the vibe of it plus her friend wasn't that cute so I walked away. I started chatting (as much as one can because the place is loud as hell which most clubs are but when your Spanish is limited anyway it just isn't copacetic) with other chicas as best as one can in such a cramped environment, there were a couple of chicas I would have talked to but there was no getting through the wall of people and chairs between us. It is not a good set up, maybe I could get used to it but I sure do miss the old place.

So I was really about to call it off and head to the clock tower when I spotted this sweet thin little thing with perky breast, I was so frustrated with the situation that I (here comes the yelling at me LOL which I deserve) I decided just to offer her 250 K so we could just get out of there, since every other chica was starting there. Then the strangest thing happened, she came back with 200 K. No really! I did a double take and asked her if she did BBBJ, and she took my translator / phone and typed in "any way you like baby". I felt like I had found a unicorn. She stayed for about three hours. Full GFE.[/QUOTE]I agree that at the times it is packed, that layout certainly hinders one from being able to just kick back, relax, observe and mingle much. While they will clear out chicas from a table or the bar to provide a spot, that only goes so far when you then have 6 dudes standing right in front of you obstructing your view of the talent.

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2375768]My Spanish is malo, pero, anyone can get by just fine with a few words and a couple smiles. I didn't run into many English speaking chicas. Use Google Translate (download Spanish offline translation) or a calculator if All Else Fails. I've tried to learned more Spanish between now and my last trip in February but I'm still far from fluent. The more Spanish I learn, the more fun it is interacting with the chicas! They love when you can joke with them en espanol.

Thanks man. Please share your experience! I wish you an awesome trip with a story to tell that may make others envy you as well.

I try to make the best of all of my experiences. This trip definitely had a story worthy of sharing.

Of course! I've picked up a lot from these boards. It's only right to contribute. You know. For the next guy.[/QUOTE]Agree with the others, great trip report and enjoyed the read! You know how to enjoy Cartagena! Keep on keeping on.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2377166]AThere was no cause to throw out insults toward Harvey's when it was obvious that one had a prejudice t.[/QUOTE]It was not my intention to throw an insult at Harvey's, although it is possible that the words I used were not appropriate and could be taken as insulting beyond my intentions. If so, I really apologize with you and others who love Harvey's but had the same feeling as you.

My only point was that this place could not be the place with "the best seafood I have ever had". In Cartagena, I believe there are certainly other places for "best seafood experience", but of course all this matter is objectionable.

All this debate has certainly brought some few more customers to Harvey's from ISG, so I believe Mr. Harvey cannot be angry with me for my non-enthusiast comments. Enjoy Harvey's!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2377320]It was not my intention to throw an insult at Harvey's, although it is possible that the words I used were not appropriate and could be taken as insulting beyond my intentions. If so, I really apologize with you and others who love Harvey's but had the same feeling as you.

My only point was that this place could not be the place with "the best seafood I have ever had". In Cartagena, I believe there are certainly other places for "best seafood experience", but of course all this matter is objectionable.

All this debate has certainly brought some few more customers to Harvey's from ISG, so I believe Mr. Harvey cannot be angry with me for my non-enthusiast comments. Enjoy Harvey's![/QUOTE]I found out that you certainly can not judge a place by its looks. Back about 7 years ago I was with a chica on Laguito beach and we were starving so we stopped at one of those thatched hut places on the beach that hasn't been painted in decades, The guy comes over with a baking sheet with fresh caught dead fish and says "this is the menu" I just randomly picked one and they brought it back freshly gutted and grilled head / eyes staring up at me, some coconut rice and a "salad" and lime wedges to flavor the fish that as the; best fish I have every had. I can't remember the name of the place but it was pretty close to where carrera 1 runs into the beach. I am going back to Cartagena in a few days and I will try to work that into my plans.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2377410]I found out that you certainly can not judge a place by its looks. Back about 7 years ago I was with a chica on Laguito beach and we were starving so we stopped at one of those thatched hut places on the beach that hasn't been painted in decades, I [/QUOTE]It could have been Dona Marciana, at the beach where there is the Police Post, which is my favourite place for lunch.

They painted the hut and remodeled everything, including the basic kitchen. It lost that "primitive" flavour.

Would Cartagena be the best Colombian city to go to for a guy who doesn't speak any Spanish? I was originally thinking of trying Medellin, but several vets have told me Medellin is a bit difficult if you don't know Spanish and Cartagena might be more manageable albeit more expensive. Though, on the point of being much more expensive, I've found the rates quoted to be inconsistent at best. I have seen some prepagos advertise in the 100-200 k range for an hour and that more or less seems like what is asked in Medellin, too.

[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2377981]Would Cartagena be the best Colombian city to go to for a guy who doesn't speak any Spanish? I was originally thinking of trying Medellin, but several vets have told me Medellin is a bit difficult if you don't know Spanish and Cartagena might be more manageable albeit more expensive. Though, on the point of being much more expensive, I've found the rates quoted to be inconsistent at best. I have seen some prepagos advertise in the 100-200 k range for an hour and that more or less seems like what is asked in Medellin, too.[/QUOTE]Only 4% of the population in Columbia speak English. So finding someone who speaks English is tough anywhere you go in Columbia.

The tourist city of Cartagena along with the two populous cities of Medellin and Bogota are the only places you find it spoken, if at all.

In Medellin and Bogota you will find more English spoken in the more upscale neighborhoods.

In Cartagena, you will find more English spoken in the tourist center when interacting with people trying to capture tourist dollars.

As an average visitor, the only place you might find it spoken is in upscale restaurants, hotels and some hotel chains.

An English speaking prepago is an unicorn.

That being said, the basics of negotiation terms for services with the ladies is universal.

Be prepared with google translator, download the Spanish language so it works offline when not on WiFi.

You won't find English more prominently in any of the cities, so use other criteria for selecting where you want to visit.

Average price for services throughout Columbia won't change, 120 K to 150 K is standard for some play time. The length of which depends on your negotiating skills and your rapport with the service provider.

ST and LT are basically the same price with LT having the added costs of taking care of, feeding, drinking and gifting for your long term visitor.

[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2377981]Would Cartagena be the best Colombian city to go to for a guy who doesn't speak any Spanish? I was originally thinking of trying Medellin, but several vets have told me Medellin is a bit difficult if you don't know Spanish and Cartagena might be more manageable albeit more expensive. Though, on the point of being much more expensive, I've found the rates quoted to be inconsistent at best. I have seen some prepagos advertise in the 100-200 k range for an hour and that more or less seems like what is asked in Medellin, too.[/QUOTE]It's where tourists go. If you stay in Getsemani you'll here plenty of english spoken by tourists there. It's right outside the old city and upscale. There are no prostitutes there and if you take a chica to places there make sure she's dressed normally.

That being said, ALL over Colombia people primarily speak Spanish. A vast majority learn a little English in school and not much more. There's no need for it.

[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2377981]Would Cartagena be the best Colombian city to go to for a guy who doesn't speak any Spanish? I was originally thinking of trying Medellin, but several vets have told me Medellin is a bit difficult if you don't know Spanish and Cartagena might be more manageable albeit more expensive. Though, on the point of being much more expensive, I've found the rates quoted to be inconsistent at best. I have seen some prepagos advertise in the 100-200 k range for an hour and that more or less seems like what is asked in Medellin, too.[/QUOTE]Most guys who do to Colombia just rely on Google Translator. Very few Chicas speak English. Very few taxi drivers speak English. The street address system is tricky, this you write down for taxi drivers.

I picked up one chica near the clock tower who was ok in the face but her body was OMG, she said she was 24, she had perfectly round titties and I discovered to my delight they were real, I offered her 150 k and she did BBBJ, great chica. She said she lived in San Diego California for a year with a gringo she married a couple of years before. She spoke some broken English, but even with her a full conversation was a struggle. But who cares, because she had perfect tits!

Thanks everyone for the information. I got to test out my Google translate skills in Sosua earlier this year and luckily it worked for what I needed it to do. If the level of English is pretty low regardless of the city, I guess I might just try my luck at Medellin as I at least won't be dealing with a coastal tourist town that's probably set up for gringo prices. It's also good to hear that BBBJ is apparently commonplace in your guys' experiences? That was the biggest knock I had on Sosua. The chicas down there were hardened pros that were mechanical and largely didn't offer BBBJ. Hoping the Colombian chicas live up to their wild reputations!

Ok, its that old question. I have 8 days vacation end February.

Should I choose Cartagena or Dominican Republic?

I want a place with a good street walker scene, and a good selection of hooker bars. I'd like a selection of MP's or bordello's as well, but they're not my first port of call, a street scene is more successful for my style, as long as its not a total car crash of a place, druggie and tranny infested. I don't generally care about to strip clubs, someone else can "make it rain. ". I've never really ordered online, bait and switch or 10 year old photos are just too prevalent in my view.

Years ago I went to Cartagena two or three times, loved it. But that was before the prices when up up and away, and before the moral majority were out blowing their horns.

I'm a fan of the coke bottle body shape on universitaria age females. I was a big fan of Cuba but over the last 10 years its getting harder and harder, numbers are down, quality is down, and I don't like creeping around with a chica.

The costs of either destination won't affect my decision.

Sheer numbers and availability is the primary motivator, Cartagena was great for spanishy looking vixens 10 years ago, don't know if that's still going on now round the clock tower. Street walkers, beach girls and LDV girls were the targets then, but I do get the impression quality and quantity has fallen, and prices have gone up. Anyone confirm?

I've never been to Dominican Republic, I'd say Santo Domingo may be better for me now Sosua is under the thumb, no streetwalkers, no bordellos, and only a couple of hooker bars (albeit good ones by all accounts).

Should I hit Dominican Republic or return to Cartagena 10 years after my last visit. And will tony the tout on the beach remember me?

It seems we're an endangered species. The list of countries where mongering has changed for the worse goes on and on. Costa Rica, Cuba, Colombia, its happening now in DR reading between the lines. Even Brazil and rio isn't the crazy scene it was when I went to Helpee disco back in the day.

I've got my african backstop countries, but sometimes I'd like to go a place where they can cook a steak, and the street meat doesn't look like it was dragged through a hedge backwards.

So Cartagena or Santo Domingo which would be better for my style of mongering or even Sosua if I've underestimated it.

I've considered Medellin or Bogota, my instincts tell me Santa Fe would be great in daytime, possibly dangerous for a solo middle aged gringo after dark. Safety has to play a little part in any decision, as I'm not the young gun I was.

Or in fact, if there's a country that is like Colombia or Cuba 10 years ago, then please let me in on that secret.

At DarrenGap: Just a reminder, end of February in 2020 is Carnaval with 21 to 29 for Rio. Given costs were not an issue, the choices are # 1 Brazil, followed by # 2 Colombia, followed by # 3 Dom Rep. Lodging costs though are triple for Carnaval dates in Brazil. Overall, I would go for Colombia, you can hit Barranquilla for couple of days also.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2378853]Ok, its that old question. I have 8 days vacation end February.

Should I choose Cartagena or Dominican Republic?

I want a place with a good street walker scene, and a good selection of hooker bars. I'd like a selection of MP's or bordello's as well, but they're not my first port of call, a street scene is more successful for my style, as long as its not a total car crash of a place, druggie and tranny infested. I don't generally care about to strip clubs, someone else can "make it rain. ". I've never really ordered online, bait and switch or 10 year old photos are just too prevalent in my view.

Years ago I went to Cartagena two or three times, loved it. But that was before the prices when up up and away, and before the moral majority were out blowing their horns.

I'm a fan of the coke bottle body shape on universitaria age females. I was a big fan of Cuba but over the last 10 years its getting harder and harder, numbers are down, quality is down, and I don't like creeping around with a chica.

The costs of either destination won't affect my decision.

Sheer numbers and availability is the primary motivator, Cartagena was great for spanishy looking vixens 10 years ago, don't know if that's still going on now round the clock tower. Street walkers, beach girls and LDV girls were the targets then, but I do get the impression quality and quantity has fallen, and prices have gone up. Anyone confirm?

I've never been to Dominican Republic, I'd say Santo Domingo may be better for me now Sosua is under the thumb, no streetwalkers, no bordellos, and only a couple of hooker bars (albeit good ones by all accounts).

Should I hit Dominican Republic or return to Cartagena 10 years after my last visit. And will tony the tout on the beach remember me?

It seems we're an endangered species. The list of countries where mongering has changed for the worse goes on and on. Costa Rica, Cuba, Colombia, its happening now in DR reading between the lines. Even Brazil and rio isn't the crazy scene it was when I went to Helpee disco back in the day.

I've got my african backstop countries, but sometimes I'd like to go a place where they can cook a steak, and the street meat doesn't look like it was dragged through a hedge backwards.

So Cartagena or Santo Domingo which would be better for my style of mongering or even Sosua if I've underestimated it.

I've considered Medellin or Bogota, my instincts tell me Santa Fe would be great in daytime, possibly dangerous for a solo middle aged gringo after dark. Safety has to play a little part in any decision, as I'm not the young gun I was.

Or in fact, if there's a country that is like Colombia or Cuba 10 years ago, then please let me in on that secret.[/QUOTE]I was in Cartagena for the first time in 2010, and I was there last week. I think the Clock Tower scene has gotten better, I think the new LDV is not as good of a place to move around and chat up chicas, it is too cramped but the Chicas are still there and Fine as ever, of all complexions and flavors, I can't be sure but I think I pay less now then I did then due to the change in peso usd exchange rate.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2378965]I was in Cartagena for the first time in 2010, and I was there last week. I think the Clock Tower scene has gotten better, I think the new LDV is not as good of a place to move around and chat up chicas, it is too cramped but the Chicas are still there and Fine as ever, of all complexions and flavors, I can't be sure but I think I pay less now then I did then due to the change in peso usd exchange rate.[/QUOTE]The old LDV (inside some kind of square by a casino if memory serves) wasn't much of a venue either. Hanging out just outside I could judge the girls better. My best scores came from Tony (yes true) and some pimp I met in the clock tower. I remember his girls tits to this day, decades later. But I'm there for the fems so I don't really care.

Its looking like Cartagena wins on a combo of available chica's, reasonable quality accommodation and environment, and day to day fun. And its practical for a solo monger.

Private apartment rental looks like the way to go. Seems like 250 k is the current median price for a couple of hours of sexy time. When I was last there Getsemeni was a the edge of the civilized area. Old crones and ladrones used to sit out at the start of the sketchy area like sentries, but I understand that areas had a brush with the renovators and is quite the place now. I mean fck-me google streetmap for CTG.

The block I stayed in has been renovated. I couldn't get hot water wherever I stayed. And my air con froze solid after a couple of hours use. I'm guessing the move upmarket will bring me better options on that front.

I see a lot of big new apartment rentals like the apartmentos palmetto beach on calle 1 in bocagrande. How do they deal with renters "guests". Different guests every day, etc. Does the security make a big fuss of taking the girls ID etc? Or do i just sweep back with my girl and they say "good evening sir..."? On my last visit block security couldn't have been more helpful, I bought them some tins of beer and we were best mates.

Rio would come in second, but I don't want to do the carnival thing, too much hassle, too much additonal costs, Another year I'll sort a direct flight to rio out and revisit that latin paradise.

[QUOTE=Questner;2378896]At DarrenGap: Just a reminder, end of February in 2020 is Carnaval with 21 to 29 for Rio. Given costs were not an issue, the choices are # 1 Brazil, followed by # 2 Colombia, followed by # 3 Dom Rep. Lodging costs though are triple for Carnaval dates in Brazil. Overall, I would go for Colombia, you can hit Barranquilla for couple of days also.[/QUOTE]On my last visit I flew from Barranquilla, stayed there overnight but was too tired to fck.

Whats the scene like compared to Cartagena, is it street based or is it MP or call out based? Is there a ground zero hooker bar it all revolves round?

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2379217]On my last visit I flew from Barranquilla, stayed there overnight but was too tired to fck.

Whats the scene like compared to Cartagena, is it street based or is it MP or call out based? Is there a ground zero hooker bar it all revolves round?[/QUOTE]Just see recent reports and lists here at ISG for Colombia Barranquilla.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2378853]Ok, its that old question. I have 8 days vacation end February.

Should I choose Cartagena or Dominican Republic?

I want a place with a good street walker scene, and a good selection of hooker bars. I'd like a selection of MP's or bordello's as well, but they're not my first port of call, a street scene is more successful for my style, as long as its not a total car crash of a place, druggie and tranny infested. I don't generally care about to strip clubs, someone else can "make it rain. ". I've never really ordered online, bait and switch or 10 year old photos are just too prevalent in my view.

Years ago I went to Cartagena two or three times, loved it. But that was before the prices when up up and away, and before the moral majority were out blowing their horns.

I'm a fan of the coke bottle body shape on universitaria age females. I was a big fan of Cuba but over the last 10 years its getting harder and harder, numbers are down, quality is down, and I don't like creeping around with a chica.[/QUOTE]Cartagena no question. I just got back, haven't been able to post the report but I think the selection of women is better. Security isn't a problem. I had a blast.

[QUOTE=JoeqNight;2379537]Cartagena no question. I just got back, haven't been able to post the report but I think the selection of women is better. Security isn't a problem. I had a blast.[/QUOTE]OK, I'm all in for CTG late Jan.

I'd like a private apartment. The big blocks with the big receptions look like it could be a pain getting the chica's past the doormen. Some AirBnB places are saying Guest "fine" of $25.00 etc.

So I guess I'm going to email a lot of owners asking about their "guest policy". But does that even work, as the people on AirBnB are often agents or companies, the default answer could be "no", yet in reality the security could be nodding the chica's through.

2005 when I last visited I just wandered around and asked a few characters if they knew anywhere for rent. But I'm older and more organised now, so I'd like a cosy 1 bed with amenable security in bocogrande, or old town. Mid range is just fine.

There's no end of high rise apartments advertised but I'm reluctant to commit until I get a full picture of the how practical it is to bring chicas back, 1 or 2 a day. Has anyone got a listing of places that are "no problemo" and those that have incorruptible doormen unsympathetic to "dama de la calle"?

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2379882]OK, I'm all in for CTG late Jan.
But I'm older and more organised now, so I'd like a cosy 1 bed with amenable security in bocogrande, or old town. Mid range is just fine.[/QUOTE]What about El Laguito. Will it work for you?

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2379929]What about El Laguito. Will it work for you?[/QUOTE]Yes, laguito good too.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2380201]Yes, laguito good too.[/QUOTE]Check your inbox.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2380201]Yes, laguito good too.[/QUOTE]See post #8879.

Anyone seeking absolute "girl friendly" condos, should visit his website at: [URL]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/index.php..[/URL].

I have read many Questions asking if a member doesn't speak Spanish can they ever get laid in a Spanish city. I speak 4 words in Spanish and when I try to use them in a conversation I normally get a HUH. If you don't speak the language don't humiliate yourself. OK so how do you negotiate with a chica. Lets say your in the clock tower plaza. You spot the perfect chica. Normally I approach her and ask if she speaks English If she shakes her head no I continue with I have an apartment. She always shakes her head yes then I point to her then to me and say (while holding up my index finger) one hour. This is pretty simple stuff and they always say yes. Now think about this, the only thing settled is yes she will spend time at your place. Now its time for the details. Most girls speak some English but if they don't have a clew I start off by on my left hand holding my index finger to my thumb forming a circle then taking my right index finger and moving it in and out of the hole and saying with condom. They always shake there head yes. What happens next is hard, I then put my hands together and make a motion like I'm forcing her to give me a BJ and I say no condom. After they nod yes, then we talk money. Once we agree on money then I say you will kiss right. This is my long term way. I'm sure some members will have a chuckle and that's OK. Lets see your way of speaking to a chica when you don't speak the language.

I just flew back into Cartagena this morning and I am only here til Sunday morning. I stayed up late in Medelland and challenged my self by pulling three chicas out of Lleras Park -one at a time. And then got up early to catch my flight. I had the number of this chica I met at LDV when I was here 10 days ago so I called her over and had a two hour go and rest go and rest session. Then I was walking back from Riquisimo and I spotted a chica in front of Atlantis waving at me, so I investigated. Chicas name is Paola, better than average looks 7 I'd give her, body okay. I was way too exhausted too consider or I would have at least tested her BJ skills. She said she had a cousin coming in tomorrow named Loyola. I'm probably spelling that wrong. She showed me photos of Loyola, she's more hour Glass than flaca, Big colombiana ass but smaller waist. So heads up to anyone staying in El Laguito In the near future. I would start with 100 k for SWs in El Laguito. These chicas are possibly widler than the average, two guys could probably have some fun partying with them. If I catch a second wind before I go to sleep, I still might get that BJ. Reminds me of 6 or 7 years ago there was a crew, Sandra & Co. In that building that worked the street in front of Edificio Playa Mar and Marinare. I did two of them in one night separately. 100 k each.

Anyone ever done any research about this building. Edificio Tocohagua in El Laguito, its on the beach side of calle 1b about two buioldings past where the roads merge and one building and a parking lot and a street before the Palmetta Sunset . I was walking back from eating with my "novia", when like five prepago looking chicas walked out and my "novia" said lots of prepago stay there, I thought it might be interesting to know more about the buildings guest policy, I know chicas sometimes come into town from cities all over Colombia to make some money, it might be interesting to be in the same building / or complicated depending on how you play it and how crazy the chicas are.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2380299]I have read many Questions asking if a member doesn't speak Spanish can they ever get laid in a Spanish city. I speak 4 words in Spanish and when I try to use them in a conversation I normally get a HUH. If you don't speak the language don't humiliate yourself. OK so how do you negotiate with a chica. Lets say your in the clock tower plaza. You spot the perfect chica. Normally I approach her and ask if she speaks English If she shakes her head no I continue with I have an apartment. She always shakes her head yes then I point to her then to me and say (while holding up my index finger) one hour. This is pretty simple stuff and they always say yes. Now think about this, the only thing settled is yes she will spend time at your place. Now its time for the details. Most girls speak some English but if they don't have a clew I start off by on my left hand holding my index finger to my thumb forming a circle then taking my right index finger and moving it in and out of the hole and saying with condom. They always shake there head yes. What happens next is hard, I then put my hands together and make a motion like I'm forcing her to give me a BJ and I say no condom. After they nod yes, then we talk money. Once we agree on money then I say you will kiss right. This is my long term way. I'm sure some members will have a chuckle and that's OK. Lets see your way of speaking to a chica when you don't speak the language.[/QUOTE]{ I start off by on my left hand holding my index finger to my thumb forming a circle then taking my right index finger and moving it in and out of the hole }.

Do you understand how foolish you look doing stuff like that? Make it easier on your self by using a translater from your phone. Really the best way to operate if you have no Spanish speaking ability.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2380472]Anyone ever done any research about this building. Edificio Tocohagua in El Laguito, its on the beach side of calle 1b about two buioldings past where the roads merge and one building and a parking lot and a street before the Palmetta Sunset . I was walking back from eating with my "novia", when like five prepago looking chicas walked out and my "novia" said lots of prepago stay there, I thought it might be interesting to know more about the buildings guest policy, I know chicas sometimes come into town from cities all over Colombia to make some money, it might be interesting to be in the same building / or complicated depending on how you play it and how crazy the chicas are.[/QUOTE]They used to make the girls check in downstairs with their Cedula ID. Not sure any more.

This building used to be great about 20 years ago, I stayed there many times, and the ocean front view and breeze was great! Most of the apartments have no hot water for showers, though not necessary in Cartagena, use cable splitters through the ceiling and get their cable for free. Now the apartments are older. Like (New) Conquistador, it is older, mostly used by Colombian tourists who rent by the week or a few days at a time.

I even feel looking stupid using my phone doing the translation. You can be spotted to be a foreigner from half a mile away and I would even feel outright **unsafe* But I am speculating. I guess 90% of the ladies don't speak more than 5 words english, right? So is "not speaking spanish" really an option?

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2380503]{ I start off by on my left hand holding my index finger to my thumb forming a circle then taking my right index finger and moving it in and out of the hole }.

Do you understand how foolish you look doing stuff like that? Make it easier on your self by using a translater from your phone. Really the best way to operate if you have no Spanish speaking ability.[/QUOTE]

I sessioned this chica in Cartageana and asked her if I could share her profile online. Didn't mention the site, just said on a website. She is petit flaca. Small but noticeable ass, genuine tits that surprised me in size for such a small chica, might be handy if you want to set up a session before you arrive; she starts at 200 k, she does BBBJ, I had fun watching her watch herself in the mirror while on top, she put on a gyrating show for herself. She lives in Cartagena, frequents Clocktower and the clubs. If you send her a friend request she sees you are a gringo. She will probable accept. PM me and I'll give you her whatsapp. Or better yet. Friend her on Facebook and ask her for it yourself -.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/johanny.medina.3954[/URL]

Mr JohnGault glad you liked my report. I just wonder how many phones you have lost by pulling your phone out when negotiating with a chica. For those of us that don't like to carry a cell phone when on the hunt, I guess we could carry a laptop for translation. Then again maybe not. Negotiating with a chica in a club never seems to be a problem with the language barrier they seem to know enough English to understand the basics. When talking to someone on the street, many times your not in the best of areas. Well I think most people will get my point.

Hi guys,

I'm going to Cartegena for the first time in December. Was just wondering where the best place to stay. Are there any hotels that are chica friendly, and if so, do they charge a chica fee. Airbnb, apartment, or hotel? I prefer to stay near the old town if that's where the action is. I've been to the Del Rey and Sportsman Lodge in San Jose many times, but Colombia is new to me. Many thanks in advance and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2380555]I even feel looking stupid using my phone doing the translation. You can be spotted to be a foreigner from half a mile away and I would even feel outright **unsafe* But I am speculating. I guess 90% of the ladies don't speak more than 5 words english, right? So is "not speaking spanish" really an option?[/QUOTE]Luna from Cali speaks good English. Nice girl. Her and her friends will be at Bocagrande later today.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2380503]{ I start off by on my left hand holding my index finger to my thumb forming a circle then taking my right index finger and moving it in and out of the hole }.

Do you understand how foolish you look doing stuff like that? Make it easier on your self by using a translater from your phone. Really the best way to operate if you have no Spanish speaking ability.[/QUOTE]No need for the illustrations. Most know what fuckie suckie means. That is almost a universal language.

They are most likely staying in one or two apartments, sharing the rent.

They would not want to get kicked out for fucking around.

Now Sao Paulo, Brazil and Rio has a few buildings to get laid in.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2380472]Anyone ever done any research about this building. Edificio Tocohagua in El Laguito, its on the beach side of calle 1b about two buildings past where the roads merge and one building and a parking lot and a street before the Palmetta Sunset . I was walking back from eating with my "novia", when like five prepago looking chicas walked out and my "novia" said lots of prepago stay there, I thought it might be interesting to know more about the buildings guest policy, I know chicas sometimes come into town from cities all over Colombia to make some money, it might be interesting to be in the same building / or complicated depending on how you play it and how crazy the chicas are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2380752]They are most likely staying in one or two apartments, sharing the rent.

They would not want to get kicked out for fucking around.

Now Sao Paulo, Brazil and Rio has a few buildings to get laid in.[/QUOTE]I've visited a chica in her building in Laguito (maybe not the one that is being referred to). There was no security check and although I don't think she had customers over to screw from the looks of the place (it was a dump) I don't think they would have cared.

MongerHunter thanks for reminding me of a term I haven't heard in a ling time *fuckie suckie * In my travels through Asia that was a term I heard often. I haven't heard it much in South America but I'm sure your right its a universal term. Today I have learned something. I'm not trying to be a smart ass but how do you ask for a BBBJ? Or better yet how do you say you want deep kissing or a rim job. Please help me with this. Now don't forget, like many members I don't feel comfortable pulling out my 700 dollar cell phone for a translation. HELP.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2380907]MongerHunter thanks for reminding me of a term I haven't heard in a ling time *fuckie suckie * In my travels through Asia that was a term I heard often. I haven't heard it much in South America but I'm sure your right its a universal term. Today I have learned something. I'm not trying to be a smart ass but how do you ask for a BBBJ? Or better yet how do you say you want deep kissing or a rim job. Please help me with this. Now don't forget, like many members I don't feel comfortable pulling out my 700 dollar cell phone for a translation. HELP.[/QUOTE]Just say to the girl "mamata natural" to be pronounced like "mahmata naturalle. " Or you could say "mamata sin condoma. " All the chicas will understand. Great luck to you.

DMy last night in Cartagena was last night. I had already done a pretty good session with my Cartagena "novia" - I refer to the chica as novia because she is a chica that I call to go to lunch / dinner and then do sessions with. She is extremely cute and her body is small but remarkably proportioned with authentic tits etc. She also does whatever I ask the way I like it done. Because I was good to her. I took her to dinner and on one of those carriage rides through Cartagena, She like it. So the night before I stayed up late with the novia and was beat tired from walking around the old city all day and from having my last session with her in the evening into the night. I had gone to the clock tower about 11 pm to see what kind of action there was. I had about 300 k pesos left. Hate giving money to those exchange ripoff places so I walked Plaza de LOS Coches for a bit and told myself I would not settle for anything less than a stunner. Did not see one. I wandered up to Dolce Vita and Space, thought about going into Space as I have not seen it yet but could not bring myself to go in. And there were some roundy childish like acting locals hanging out in front that I was too tired to tolerate. Part of me just wanted to go back to the apartment and make sure I was packed, I did not have an early flight the next day but was exhausted but it was my last night and I wanted one more piece of Cartagena before coming back home to the dull and ordinary. Once There was nothing in Plaza de LOS Coches that really motivated me so I decided to find the next best thing, talked to two chicas and neither would agree to BBBJ and I got discouraged and gave into my fatigue and left in a taxi. Not long after I get back to the apartment I see a whatsapp message from an unknown number. Turns out to be the SW I had talked with. Since she had told me that she was staying across the street in Atlantis building I asked her about anal and BBBJ for 150 k and she says yes I ask her to come over in five minutes. She says "to be honest I do not live in Atlantis I live in Manga. A neighborhood just southeast of Getsemani. She says 15 minutes. Only at that time of night is Manga 15 minutes from Laguito. So she showed up. She is less attractive than I remember. I said 7 before. I'm dropping that to 5. 5 but she has a decent body. Gives a really good effort to the BBBJ but when she sees the girth of my penis she chickens out on anal. Most girls do. Only two girls have ever not chickened out and I was in long term relationships with them so they did it out of love. But only once each. She dropped the price to 100 k to get out of doing anal. So there it is she is a local girl but not a Laguita girl she could be a 7 if she would pluck her manly looking eyebrows. Sex and good BBBJ- 100 k. Her name is Luisa.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2380569]I sessioned this chica in Cartageana and asked her if I could share her profile online.[/QUOTE]SHIT I know those bongos! What were you doing in MY apartment??

OK Black page if all goes well I will be in CTG in about 10 days. As I mentioned before I travel solo and I don't like having a meal in a nice restaurant alone. It really sux. This will be my 3rd trip to CTG and I will check out Cuzco and Santisimo and if either one strikes my fantasy, I did meet a chica on my last trip that I will ask out for dinner. So how do I collect my beer?

{ I had about 300 k pesos left. Hate giving money to those exchange ripoff }.

I agree 100 % about not giving those blood suckers any business. Now for me I always bring as many pesos as I can back home. Two reasons for that. First I love the exchange rate, and feel it is a great investment to grab as many pesos as I can at a rate near 3500 per dollar. The second reason is when I return to Colombia I can grab a taxi as soon as I clear customs. No looking for an ATM at the airport. Many times I had to wait while other people were in front of me at the machine. Now of course if you do not plan to return to Colombia than there is no sense in holding on to the pesos.

She is quite cute so I got on her Facebook page but blocked her after one day as she has too many garbage postings cluttering up my Facebook page. My mistake even entertaining the idea.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2380569]I sessioned this chica in Cartageana and asked her if I could share her profile online. Didn't mention the site, just said on a website. She is petit flaca. Small but noticeable ass, genuine tits that surprised me in size for such a small chica, might be handy if you want to set up a session before you arrive; she starts at 200 k, she does BBBJ, I had fun watching her watch herself in the mirror while on top, she put on a gyrating show for herself. She lives in Cartagena, frequents Clocktower and the clubs. If you send her a friend request she sees you are a gringo. She will probable accept. PM me and I'll give you her whatsapp. Or better yet. Friend her on Facebook and ask her for it yourself -.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/johanny.medina.3954[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2380602]Mr JohnGault glad you liked my report. I just wonder how many phones you have lost by pulling your phone out when negotiating with a chica. For those of us that don't like to carry a cell phone when on the hunt, I guess we could carry a laptop for translation. Then again maybe not. Negotiating with a chica in a club never seems to be a problem with the language barrier they seem to know enough English to understand the basics. When talking to someone on the street, many times your not in the best of areas. Well I think most people will get my point.[/QUOTE]I have lost one phone in Colombia. This was stolen from my room when I fell asleep. I learned a lesson from that. A old time monger once noticed that I was doing a lot of TLN, and he told me I was paying the girls to sleep. I thought his remarks were funny at the time, but I think there was a lot of truth in his sage remarks.

Now you can pick up a cheap phone at a flea market or even on E- Bay. I am told you can download a translater for Spanish, and you do not need to be connected to the internet for it to work. I was told this to be true, but I am sure others on this board can chime in with the truth of the matter.

I guess I hurt your feelings a little bit, and I'm sorry for that, but I felt it was needed to get my point across.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2381435]I have lost one phone in Colombia. This was stolen from my room when I fell asleep. I learned a lesson from that. A old time monger once noticed that I was doing a lot of TLN, and he told me I was paying the girls to sleep. I thought his remarks were funny at the time, but I think there was a lot of truth in his sage remarks.

Now you can pick up a cheap phone at a flea market or even on E- Bay. I am told you can download a translater for Spanish, and you do not need to be connected to the internet for it to work. I was told this to be true, but I am sure others on this board can chime in with the truth of the matter.

I guess I hurt your feelings a little bit, and I'm sorry for that, but I felt it was needed to get my point across.[/QUOTE]You can do all of the above. If you have Google Translator on your phone you can download language packs that work offline. Not sure all the voice and conversation modes work offline though. Which means if you're trying to communicate with a chica you may have to let her type into it or just ask yes and no questions.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2381431]She is quite cute so I got on her Facebook page but blocked her after one day as she has too many garbage postings cluttering up my Facebook page. My mistake even entertaining the idea.[/QUOTE]Just FYI -You can "unfollow" anyone on Facebook and not see their posts. I don't "follow" any chicas.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2381356]OK Black page if all goes well I will be in CTG in about 10 days. As I mentioned before I travel solo and I don't like having a meal in a nice restaurant alone. It really sux. This will be my 3rd trip to CTG and I will check out Cuzco and Santisimo and if either one strikes my fantasy, I did meet a chica on my last trip that I will ask out for dinner. So how do I collect my beer?[/QUOTE]: confused: Your beer? It's MY BEER. This is the second time, but I will repeat what I posted time ago:

"Actually what I proposed was the opposite way round LOL.
[I]"Try Cuzco and Santisimo. You'll want to offer me a beer to thank me. "[/I]
But it's ok. I appreciate you appreciate my recommendations anyway. Let's toast with our own beers!"
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2371982&viewfull=1#post2371982[/URL]

However, I am not that stingy. I can offer you a beer.

PS: if the lady is a meat lover, try Quebracho.

Yes John Gault you did hurt my feelings. You know how sensitive I am. I'll get over it. You can make up for it by being the first to buy my new pamphlet. I'm designing a pamphlet that will help members communicate with hookers that don't speak English. This pamphlet will illustrate most of the actions I mentioned in my earlier post on how to ask for oh lets say a BBBJ or a rimjob. Members will no longer need to act out their sexual desires they can just check the index of my new pamphlet for a desired sexual act then turn to the proper page and show it to the hooker. My problem is I'm not that good at drawing. I'm good at drawing stick men but I'm not sure how to draw stick woman. I'm sure I can figure this out. As my first customer you will get a discount. Actually it will be free. You will only pay shipping and handling. Send me $7.00 us cash, *no checks* and your pamphlet will be on its way.

Thanks!

I'm heading back to CTG and I can't wait to enjoy the great sea food.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2381693]Yes John Gault you did hurt my feelings. You know how sensitive I am. I'll get over it. You can make up for it by being the first to buy my new pamphlet. I'm designing a pamphlet that will help members communicate with hookers that don't speak English. This pamphlet will illustrate most of the actions I mentioned in my earlier post on how to ask for oh lets say a BBBJ or a rimjob. Members will no longer need to act out their sexual desires they can just check the index of my new pamphlet for a desired sexual act then turn to the proper page and show it to the hooker. My problem is I'm not that good at drawing. I'm good at drawing stick men but I'm not sure how to draw stick woman. I'm sure I can figure this out. As my first customer you will get a discount. Actually it will be free. You will only pay shipping and handling. Send me $7.00 us cash, *no checks* and your pamphlet will be on its way.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Wow that is a real good idea. Instead of drawing the acts you are interested in, why not at home use a translater, and copy those words to a paper. Get real slick, and then get the paper laminated.

I would gladly buy one, but I have no problem getting my thoughts known to the providers. All joking aside it really is a good idea you have in showing a Chica on a pamphlet what acts you wish her to do for you.

Don't help any prosecutor to an idea of charging you with facilitating p4 p.

Hi guys,

Occasional lurker here. First, I would like to thank you for all the great information being provided here, it's really appreciated.

Now to the question part. In a few months I'm going to have a 4-5 day window for some fun before continuing with the other part of my trip and I'm having some difficulties with my decision making. I'm that type of guy who likes to hit the club or a similar scene and feel the vibe and then go from there rather than using facebook, escort sites, casas etc. Nothing against it, it's just not my first choice. Having read the reports here, it is my conclusion that only Cartagena and Medellin fit the bill with Medellin being a less appealing option because of the ridiculous prices being quoted at places like Gusto and everything that goes with it. I didn't even bother reading about Bogota because I like warmer climate and it seems like Cali doesn't have what I'm looking for.

So I guess I'm asking the more experienced people here if my assessment is correct and should I go with Cartagena or am I overlooking something?

Thanks.

At Panther32: Yes, for Cartagena, at least there are couple hooker clubs.

[QUOTE=Panther32;2382317]H Having read the reports here, it is my conclusion that only Cartagena and Medellin fit the bill with Medellin being a less appealing option because of the ridiculous prices being quoted at places like Gusto and everything that goes with it.[/QUOTE]Here we can read anything and its contrary, but assimilating Medellin with Gusto is illogical. Gusto is ONE place in Medellin, not really representative of Medellin, and even not advisable in the opinion of the majority who write here.

Overall, Medellin is much cheaper than Cartagena (hotels, restaurants, girls).

However, mongering in Cartagena is also much easier. Then, I would suggest you to go to Cartagena, but read here first, as much as you can. [I]Adelante, Panther, con juicio![/I]

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Panther32;2382317]Hi guys,

Occasional lurker here. First, I would like to thank you for all the great information being provided here, it's really appreciated.

Now to the question part. In a few months I'm going to have a 4-5 day window for some fun before continuing with the other part of my trip and I'm having some difficulties with my decision making. I'm that type of guy who likes to hit the club or a similar scene and feel the vibe and then go from there rather than using facebook, escort sites, casas etc. Nothing against it, it's just not my first choice. Having read the reports here, it is my conclusion that only Cartagena and Medellin fit the bill with Medellin being a less appealing option because of the ridiculous prices being quoted at places like Gusto and everything that goes with it. I didn't even bother reading about Bogota because I like warmer climate and it seems like Cali doesn't have what I'm looking for.

So I guess I'm asking the more experienced people here if my assessment is correct and should I go with Cartagena or am I overlooking something?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Without a doubt CTG fits your needs. There are two main clubs { Space, La dolce Vita } perfect for what you want. Also a bonus for you is the clock tower action. As far as you like warm weather then CTG fits the bill.

Cartagena was an amazing city of fantasies and illusions. I am in my early forties, Hispanic with good Spanish (conversational), with knowledge of Colombia (been to Medellin a few times). I did my research prior to going (thanks board) and even did Tinder (my opinion on that later). Even with all this preparations, I still made some miscues and mistakes that I learned some lessons if I would return. But overall, I had a great time and would probably repeat (though probably a shorter weekend trip).

Day One Wednesday.

I booked the trip for about a week (September 18-24) arriving wed and leaving the following Tuesday. This was my first solo trip (been with friends before). I was contacting women on Tinder getting ready for my arrival. A 6 am flight out of NYC and layover in fort Lauderdale. On the second leg of the trip, I made friends with a pilot who decided on a whim to jump on board and check out Cartagena. He has never been to Colombia at all and didn't even have a hotel lined up. So we made friends and I decided to help him translate and help him to the to the walled city. So we took a taxi together and dropped him off. Then I checked into my spot and the place was sweet. Good security and great views of the city from the balcony. First mission was to get a Claro sim card for my Colombian phone so did that. I also got supplies (food, drinks, booze, Colombian Cialis and Colombian Viagra). Once I got back I reached out to some girls that I made contact on tinder and one got back to me, a Venny Andreina which I made a cita for next morning. I tried to rest a bit before going out knowing that the fun don't kick off until after 11 pm but this pilot was WhatsApping me and giving me updates about drinking and the girls are hot. So I napped about an hour before getting ready. Once out, I felt the anticipation in the air, not knowing what to expect, if the clock tower is all that is cracked up to be or how is LDVs as many have mentioned. I got there after 10:30 pm to meet up with the pilot dude from drinks and food. As I walked into the clock tower, I saw a small sampling of what was to come. A hot girl was there and I decided to get her number but no partake just yet because I wanted to look at all my options. Met up with the pilot dude, bounced to a few regular bars before finally heading to LDVs. Now this was a Wednesday night and I been to a DR (Punta Cana), Costa Rica (2008 and 2009 in San Jose) and Medellin. I have never seen a place with so many beautiful women of all shapes, kinds and sizes ready to party. I was like a kid in a candy store. And it was packed! The pilot was stunned and overwhelmed actually (in the end of the night decided not to partake with any woman WTF? I looked around and found a few that were good, got their numbers. Now my ideal woman is chiquita pero grandota (petite but curvy) and I ended up with Samantha (my type with a face of Demi Lovato but ridiculous bolt ONS) we vibe right away. We settled on 150 k with 20 k for taxi and we head back to my spot. We got to my place, have some drinks, play some music, chat it up. Then we head over to the bed where she tries a cover BJ and I was like no. I ended up having to pay 50 more and then it was all good. Sex in a bunch of positions (doggie CG mish) and was great. We spend about 2 hours until the 4 Am curfew hits in my building, got her number and she was on her way and I finally got some rest.

Day Two Thursday.

After a good first night, I woke up to construction in the building way to early to my liking. I woke up feeling I needed a bit more. So I messaged Andreina to do a morning session. She promptly responded and we negotiate 150 k + 20 k for taxi and she was on her way. It took over an hour to arrive and we WhatsApp video chat to make sure she looks like her photos. She arrives and we relax a bit, chat and some music. The we start on the couch DFK and lots of grabbing. Some the clothes come off and we make our way to the bedroom. She promptly goes bbj, and works it well. Boobs are real, big soft and perky, butt is firm, I am enjoying all of this. She starts cowgirl and we switch multiple positions until we finish. Then a lot of cuddling at the end, total GFE. She leaves about 2 hours. I meet up with my new pilot friend for some lunch. He told me he got a girls number the night before and made a date with her for the evening. So after hanging out a bit we part ways for him to get ready for his date while I recover for the evening. A bit after 9, my phone is blowing up and I was like wtf. It was the pilot and said that his girl has a girl for me. He sent me photos and she was pretty but not what I was looking for. I get ready for night 2 and head out. I meet the pilot and the date at a club killing time before LDVs gets good. Things are cool until I ask him, what is this price of this date. He was like, I didn't ask. And I said, you need to negotiate everything in advance before doing this. But he was already here so I left it at that. I say my goodbyes before the girl asks me if I want to join them. I was like hell no (some kinda of a freak) and I was on my way. The pilot asked me what happened and I was like nothing, enjoy you night. I head to the clock tower to check the talent and there was plenty. I got a bunch of numbers but decided to go to LDVs to see the party. Lots of girls again (it's like this every night incredible! I talked to a few of them but finally and fairly late settled with a Paisa named Natalia. I didn't pull the trigger right away because she didn't want to do BBJ without a condom and wanted 200 k but in the end decided that it was getting late, we were vibing, and had a body I wanted to see her naked. We get back to my spot and we start chilling and drink and dancing and laughing. All of a sudden we are hitting the cerfew of the building 4 am (more on this later) and we are like we got to fuck. We get naked in a hurry and try to go at it but I don't know got into me but we both start just laughing out of the silliness of us hurrying. She had an amazing body all natural amazing tits. Unfortunately we have sex but I really can't my member to perform, probably from the earlier session with Andreina and us rushing and laughing. I never had that happened to me. Security comes and we leave the session as that, saying we can meet another time. And then escorted her down and sent her on her way.

Day 3 Friday.

I woke up the next day with the similar sounds of construction and a bit of frustration that I didn't quite finish our session last night. The 4 am curfew is a bit annoying especially if we were still vibing. Anyways, I get a bunch of messages from my pilot friends saying his date stayed all night. Sounds like a good time. Then he calls me and says she wants his 90 bucks in American dollars plus 300 k. He asks me to talk to her and there isn't much to talk about because he didn't negotiate the price ahead of time. After they are done, I tour the old city for a bit and get lunch. Andreina is messaging me asking for another session, sex in the balcony, and because I had a great previous session and didn't finish the night before but was on the fence. In the meantime, I walk over to playa Hollywood to check out what is going on. By this time it's about its mid afternoon and I don't see much. I got approached by a few touts, one guy I forgot his name (not tony, though a tony Montana did come up to me). I saw it was limited and I told him I could come back Saturday earlier and set something up with the 100's of ladies I saw in his phone. Then I decided to pull the trigger on Andreina and asked her to come over. Unfortunately, thinking she would be by in about an hour, she had to go through rush hour traffic and arrived at my place like 7 pm. We had a fantastic session, sex on the balcony, bedroom, balcony again to finish. By the time our session ended it was 8:30. I was drained figuratively and literally. But took a short nap, got ready and went out. Met with the pilot,(final night for him) and hung out with him a bit. He said he was exhausted and didn't even want to go to LDVs. So we part ways. I head to LDVs and Friday night is rocking. I see the girl my pilot buddy had, said a quick Hello, and moved on. I saw Samantha (night 1) and had this hot girl friend. I asked her about her friend and she was like she doesn't BJ without a condom. Damn these girls are ruthless! I was in the mood for something different, not the super curvy girls I have been with so far. A Venny named April (looked like Zoe Saldana but much hotter with a great athletic body) caught my attention and we had good back and forth banter but couldn't agree on price and services. I go around and I see this short angelic kinda of looking girl named Maria. I start chatting it up with her and she all of a sudden turns very devilish. Certainly got my attention. We start negotiating services when she suddenly throws her friend in for a threesome for eventually 400 k. Her friend was super petite but also good looking. I had a previous threesome on another trip and it was not all that it was cracked up to be. But I thought, they know each other and maybe it will be a better experience. Against my intuition and my better judgement (I had Andreina a few hours earlier) we agreed and left. So we get back to the apartment and start the party, music drinks and they promptly get naked, twerking. Maria starts with a cover bbj going super hard, like rushing it. I processed to eventually stop her and quickly got her friend in CG position and starts riding me while Maria is playing with herself. I switched to doing Maria doggie style. She was petite but with a perfect ass. While all this is going on, her friend randomly catcalls during the entire session, distracting but fine. The threesome was going well but I couldn't finish. Then the hour hits and like clockwork, Maria and her friend stop. And I am like I didn't finish but apparently I ran into a clockwatcher and the session just ended. Disappointed, I just get them downstairs and send them on their way. She like call me and in my mind, Are you kidding? I go to sleep disappointed and my opinion on threesomes have not changed too much. Better than my last one but still a bit overrated.

Day 4 (Saturday).

I wake up and outside is pouring rain. I guess no playa Hollywood today. After the disappointment of the threesome previous night and it was Colombian valentine's day, I contact Natalia (Colombian Paisa with the slamming body) to make plans for the evening. We negotiate back and forth and decide 500 k for Todo la noche from early evening to the following day. I meet up with the pilot who is leaving for his flight. We quickly have breakfast and I introduce him to a pandebono. He then heads out to the airport and I make my way back to my apartment. After 3 days of partying day and night, I decide to slow it down and wait for my evening with Natalia. I end up doing jui jitsu and getting some well needed rest. I go to a barber shop to get ready for the evening and Natalia has some emergency with a friend of hers and has to cancel for the evening. I was at first disappointed but then I sent her a "yo no se mañana" song and I decide to get ready for whatever the night brings. I take a nap and proceed to get ready for the evening. I get to the clocktower at 10 ish and C D B/ Cteam of women there. I get a venny number Ana (alright) and I proceed to pregame at a bar. While at the bar, I get an unexpected text from Ana saying if I want to be with her. She doesn't have a passport and I was going to dismiss her. But I was like threw out 150 k and BBJ son condom. She agrees and knows a decent motel near by. So we meet up And get into a taxi and go. We go in and all of a sudden, in good light, she is not as attractive as I thought. Then she starts trying to do covered BJ. I told her that not what you agreed to do. She acts like she didn't get the messages. That's it, I have realized I made a mistake. I didn't even attempt to continue with the session. I just call the taxi, paid for the room and had an awkward taxi ride back to the clocktower. We quickly parted ways and now I am refocused on what I want for the evening.

Day 5 Sunday (starting Saturday night).

So after my uneventful detour, I finally make it to LDVs. I look around and say Hi to some of the girls I already know. I get a text from Natalia saying her friend is out of the emergency room but she is staying in with her and sends me some photos for proof. Whatever, I am already at LDVs. I decide to get a drink by the bar when some girls come in and I see her. We make eye contact and flashes me a big smile and walks towards the back. I move towards the back and walk by her at first and again flashes me a smile. I quickly use the restroom and walk back and start to talk to her. Her name is Nena and Paisa from Medellin. Oh man, she is going to be trouble because it exactly the girl I was looking for this entire trip. She was super friendly and fun so I invite her for a drink at the bar. We get drinks and she quickly downs her whiskey. We talk dance, and drink some more and rubbing all the right spots. So she says 300 k and at this point, my negotiation skills have been thrown out the window and I was like sure and off we go. We get back and she quickly goes through all my bourbon and we party and dance. We are vibing and having a great time. I start to take off her clothes and she has an amazing body. We DFK and I start to work her body. Total GFE and just incredible. Afterwards we continue to party still having a great time when the curfew hits (5 am on sat). I am like, I don't want this to end, so we agree for her to hang with me all day Sunday for another 500 k. I go downstairs and all they have to do is change wristbands. If I knew this I would of just done this with Natalia. Oh well. Anyways we get some of her stuff from her place near by and we go back to my spot and finally pass out. We wake up to a good morning session. We get some late breakfast and then hang out all day drinking, smoking,(she is a bit of a weedhead), dancing, sex in the shower, and watching the sunset from the balcony. We had the most amazing Sunday and ordered dinner. After dinner, reality hits, she fets a call from a friend saying that she has a guy for her for work. And she told me she has to go because unfortunately even though she is having a great time, she is broke and needs to make money. Well that was a buzzkill to a great day. So I escort her out and plan what I should do for the rest of the night. During my day with Nena, I made and for Playa Blanca and Cholon on Monday and now I don't have anyone to go with. So I contact Natalia who is at LDVs and tells me to swing by. I get there and Sunday is definitely emptier than Saturday night, lots of women though not at the level as other nights. I meet Natalia and we get some drinks and start talking about Playa Blanca. I said get your stuff, stay over and we go together the next day. She quotes me 1000 k. I was like your out of your goddamn mind. She didn't go down that much so I told her let me think about it. I text Andreina about the playa trip and she is down and quotes me 250 k. I didn't even negotiate and was like done, show up before 9 and we go. In the meantime, Natalia is already talking to some dude and she comes up to me and ask if I was going to be with her. I told her no, I found alternative plans and she took off with the guy. Funny thing, I am still at LDVs just hanging out drinking and chatting it up that about 20 minutes later Natalia is back. Man she works fast. I decide to pass on taking any girl out that night, go back get some rest and get ready for the beach.

Day 6 (Monday).

I get up around 8 am to start getting ready for the beach. Andreina hits me up and lets me know she is on her way. I hired a taxi to take me to playa blanca and check out some of the islands including Cholon. I meet up Andreina and the taxi arrives soon after and we are on our way. The trip is about an hour and pur driver was knowledgeable about where to go. We arrive and we got to a restaurant on the beach to rent chairs and beers. Our taxi driver talks to do and helps us get a speedboat to tour the islands. We get on board and go tour a few of the islands and check out Cholon. Cholon was OK (it was Monday afternoon.) My girl and I are just enjoying the views and each other (unfortunately to many people around for some island sex). We make it back have lunch and enjoy the beach. We head back and end up at the apartment. We start making up for the day, and start our party. Unfortunately, I am hit with my kryptonite, a stinky puss, and that just kills my mood and pretty much ends the session. I pay Andreina and send her on my way. I am thinking how am I going to end my last night in Cartagena. I decide to message Nena. She tells me, after she left, she got ready, laid down for a second and then passed out (not sure how much I believe that but oh well). Anyway she excited to talk to me and we negotiate what we can do. I tell her it's my last night and I want to celebrate my birthday before heading back. We end up agreeing that she could come over and we have a pregame session and after that if she needs to go and do her thing, we can part ways and agree to 250 k. So she gets ready and video chats while getting her hair done. About an hour later she is downstairs and want to be called up instead of me getting her. I talk to the front and when she walks in, she has surprised me by bringing her super model and best friend Paola. Tall and drop dead gorgeous. She is like surprise! Now this is a birthday gift! We all hang out and get the party started. We drink, smoke and have a great time. Paola starts modeling her lingerie, (she apparently has her own company). She just broke up with her boyfriend and is pissed off at him. Good for me, so Poala proceeds to a BJJ while I am DFK Nena and sucking on her boobs. We all pause in between for a drink when Paola gets a call and lets us know she has to go. She leaves and Nena and I decide to not go out and stay in and finish what we started. We continue on the balcony DFK, sucking and DATY, move ti the bedroom and hit several positions until finishing in doggie. We continue to drink and party until 6 am.

Day7. Tuesday.

I wake up and try for a morning session but Nena is hungover and not feeling well. I try to pack in a hurry while getting her ready to leave. I pay 500 k total for the night, and I get Nena a taxi, a final hug and kiss and she is gone. I finally pack and on my way to the airport. Some annoying issues at the airport but finally flying back to reality.

Final thoughts.

Cartagena was a lot of fun. Everything is located close and very easy to find whatever your looking for. The Venezuelans I found more willing to do more than the Colombians (some a harden pros) but YMMV. With the clocktower and LDVs always rocking, you really don't need Tinder (though I found Andreina that way). A better way I think is just get all the girls number and contact them during the day. Friday and Saturday are prime time nights so might end up paying a bit more those nights (though I didn't negotiate Saturday with Nena and I am ok with that). I could of avoided a few situations but you live and learn. Depending on how had you like to party, a week might be good or an extended weekend might be better. I need to check out Cholon on a Friday or Saturday. Cartagena is definitely more expensive than Medellin but I knew that going in (still far cheaper than NYC and even CR). I do like that fact that you party at your own place and can set the atmosphere the way you like it vs a Casa or strip club. But Cartagena is also definitely a tropical party atmosphere vs Medellin which is metropolitan. Also unfortunately, even though I was staying in front of playa Hollywood, I didn't partake which next I would try ay least one. I would do Cartagena given the opportunity again.

[QUOTE=JoeqNight;2383030]Cartagena was an amazing city of fantasies and illusions.

We get back and she quickly goes through all my bourbon and
Final thoughts.

Cartagena was a lot of fun. Everything is located close and very easy to find whatever your looking for.

even though I was staying in front of playa Hollywood, [/QUOTE]Great report, glad you had fun. I have two questions. First question: where did you find Bourbon? Do you call all whiskey bourbon? I am originally from Kentucky and I look for bourbon everywhere I go. Did not see any in Colombia. Did not do a thorough search either. Nothing personal if you call whiskey bourbon but I am curious. The second question; did the building you stayed in have the initials HD?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2382615]Here we can read anything and its contrary, but assimilating Medellin with Gusto is illogical. Gusto is ONE place in Medellin, not really representative of Medellin, and even not advisable in the opinion of the majority who write here.

Overall, Medellin is much cheaper than Cartagena (hotels, restaurants, girls)...[/QUOTE]Equating Gusto with Medellin is just nuts. I have taken 20+ trips to Medellin and I have yet to set foot in that club. Medellin has so much to offer, besides Gusto.

{ Then she starts trying to do covered BJ. I told her that not what you agreed to do. She acts like she didn't get the messages. That's it, I have realized I made a mistake. I didn't even attempt to continue with the session }.

Good for you. I see many reports where a guy has a bad session, and he just continues on. I feel two things are important when mongering. They are time, and leche. Most of the time your trip is not of a long duration so why waste your time, and leche on a bad choice you have made. Concerning the leche part when I was 20 years old that was not a consideration, but those days are long gone.

I remember one time in MDE I got a Chica in Mayorista for 20 K. I was so happy with the deal I had made till we got to the room, and she insisted on double condoms. I quickly paid her the 20 K,and went out again right away so I did not waste the leche on a sure dud.

BTW great trip report. Also concerning your pilot friend who ended up over paying because he did not set up the price in advance. Of all the rookie mistakes this is very near to being the top one.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2383205] I have taken 20+ trips to Medellin and I have yet to set foot in that club.[/QUOTE]Same for me.

To be honest, curiosity after ISG made me searching for it at Lleras. Then, I have looked at it from outside <g , but I really never liked the girls I have seen going inside or coming outside. Not my cup of leche.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2383263]Same for me.

To be honest, curiosity after ISG made me searching for it at Lleras. Then, I have looked at it from outside <g , but I really never liked the girls I have seen going inside or coming outside. Not my cup of leche.[/QUOTE]During the year I was in Medellin, I went to Gusto once. I'd been heading through Parque Lleras on my way to grab a bus home and some guys I'd just met wanted to have a drink, then another.

After 3 drinks, 1 guy drags us into Gusto, because he knows everyone there. It was true. He was buddies with every bartender, waitress and bouncer. I had a great time for 3 reasons.

1. That guy was crazy. He was everywhere doing everything. He ended up spending $750 in there and I didn't spend any. Not even a cover charge.

2. The other guy was much calmer and a good guy to talk with.

3. Because of the 1 guy, we were treated like VIPs. Everyone on the staff was constantly checking on us to make sure we were having a good time and the working girls weren't pushy.

I'd originally been headed home at 6 pm and didn't get there until 7:30 am (we ended up at Club Fahrenheit). Not the kind of night I wanted to repeat, but I enjoyed it.

However, there's at least 100 other dance clubs in Medellin and you can find girls willing to earn some extra money in any of them. You'll spend less for everything too. There's at least 100 regular options as well, between casas, strip clubs, girl bars and private apartments being run like brothels. Then there's the Facebook scene.

I can't say that Medellin is better than Cartagena, although I expect it's better for me. I like to spend the day walking, 10 miles or more. Cartagena is too hot for me to enjoy that. I also like to end my night by 10 or 11. That seems to be when Cartagena gets started.

For some guys Cartagena is perfect. Everyone just needs to do their research and pick the destination that best suits them. Unfortunately, it seems most guys base their decision on one report, or one girl.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2383191]Great report, glad you had fun. I have two questions. First question: where did you find Bourbon? Do you call all whiskey bourbon? I am originally from Kentucky and I look for bourbon everywhere I go. Did not see any in Colombia. Did not do a thorough search either. Nothing personal if you call whiskey bourbon but I am curious. The second question; did the building you stayed in have the initials HD?[/QUOTE]I brought some bourbon from the states (travel ones for the plane). I usually drink Ron Medellin 12 in Colombia. Nena drank all the mini bottles and we ended up buying 2 bottles of Buchanan's and Nena went through most of it. I stayed in Bocagrande in initials PB. Right in front of the beach.

[QUOTE=RockPaper7777;2381132]Just say to the girl "mamata natural" to be pronounced like "mahmata naturalle. " Or you could say "mamata sin condoma. " All the chicas will understand. Great luck to you.[/QUOTE]It's mamada.

Staying in a dorm-style hostel for my trip there next week. However, it appears most of the reports here mention that the clock tower girls come to your room? Since my current accommodations are not private, do the girls at the clock tower generally have their own hotel rooms close by? Or will I be forced to rent someplace else?

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2383765]Staying in a dorm-style hostel for my trip there next week. However, it appears most of the reports here mention that the clock tower girls come to your room? Since my current accommodations are not private, do the girls at the clock tower generally have their own hotel rooms close by? Or will I be forced to rent someplace else?[/QUOTE]Some may have and invite you, however generally it's not recommended. See love motels list, or agree to her choice of a hotel / motel.

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2383765]Staying in a dorm-style hostel for my trip there next week. However, it appears most of the reports here mention that the clock tower girls come to your room? Since my current accommodations are not private, do the girls at the clock tower generally have their own hotel rooms close by? Or will I be forced to rent someplace else?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't advise going to any girls apartment. Its better you pay the hotel and at least be safe.

Love motels?

[QUOTE=Questner;2384014]Some may have and invite you, however generally it's not recommended. See love motels list, or agree to her choice of a hotel / motel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2384870]Love motels?[/QUOTE]Yes. That's actually how locals do it.

It's fine to visit a chica you know well but don't expect nice digs. They tend to rent rooms more than apartments. One chica a while back I used to fuck a lot would sometimes walk back to her place with me to walk her dog or get a change of clothes.

Any places like this that you'd recommend near the clock tower?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2384986]Yes. That's actually how locals do it.

It's fine to visit a chica you know well but don't expect nice digs. They tend to rent rooms more than apartments. One chica a while back I used to fuck a lot would sometimes walk back to her place with me to walk her dog or get a change of clothes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lancer19;2384778]I wouldn't advise going to any girls apartment. Its better you pay the hotel and at least be safe.[/QUOTE]The safety issue is usually for the one who takes a stranger to his / her place, not the contrary. You will not create troubles where you live, even if you just rent the room. On the other hand, if you have a thief or trouble maker in your apartment, the extraction of the unwanted guest from your place can be not trivial at times.

I have never seen any girl proposing a short-time customer to go where she lives. On the other hand, I have accompanied my girls back to their places in Getsemani a few times. One time it was a poor room at the ground level, other times a room in a small hotel. All times, we said bye at the door.

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2384994]Any places like this that you'd recommend near the clock tower?[/QUOTE]Once more: see the Cartagena List.

Second, a reminder which is needless for 99% of people here: the girls know the places and take you there, it's not the opposite.

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2384994]Any places like this that you'd recommend near the clock tower?[/QUOTE]The chicas will take you to a nearby short time hotel. You may even see locals go with their girlfriends to these places. The old city has many short-time hotels that open up at night. There are a few just outside as well.

Great info. Thank you!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2385322]The chicas will take you to a nearby short time hotel. You may even see locals go with their girlfriends to these places. The old city has many short-time hotels that open up at night. There are a few just outside as well.[/QUOTE]

Visit to CTG on ice, primarily as I can't get a connection after I land at MIA at 6 pm, and given I only have 6 available nights I don't want to fanny around with an overnight stay in Miami.

Fact is I can get a AA flight at 9 pm to Dom Republic, but CTG or Medellin last flights seem to about 5 pm.

Unless the expert travellers on this board know otherwise.

TBH I'd prefer CTG but if I have to screw big titted dominicans then I'll suck it up. So to speak.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2386550]Visit to CTG on ice, primarily as I can't get a connection after I land at MIA at 6 pm, and given I only have 6 available nights I don't want to fanny around with an overnight stay in Miami..[/QUOTE]Fly from USA to BOG, not necessarily from MIA (unless you really want to use that alliance). It should be cheaper and give you more connecting opportunities. Avianca flights BOG-CTG are very frequent, and if booked in advance not expensive. USA-BOG-CTG is my usual way of travelling to CTG when I have spare days (and money) after some travel to USA for work.

If you arrive to BOG too late, you can consider to spend one night in BOG. Hotels can be from cheap to expensive, as you prefer, and you have a plethora of good restaurants to choose. Also, you might visit Santa Fe, to have a different experience, or just have one less night for mongering but spend it to see how Bogota looks like.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2386721]Fly from USA to BOG, not necessarily from MIA (unless you really want to use that alliance). It should be cheaper and give you more connecting opportunities. Avianca flights BOG-CTG are very frequent, and if booked in advance not expensive. USA-BOG-CTG is my usual way of travelling to CTG when I have spare days (and money) after some travel to USA for work.

If you arrive to BOG too late, you can consider to spend one night in BOG. Hotels can be from cheap to expensive, as you prefer, and you have a plethora of good restaurants to choose. Also, you might visit Santa Fe, to have a different experience, or just have one less night for mongering but spend it to see how Bogota looks like.[/QUOTE]I'll check out BOG options, I;m flying from europe to MIA so no choice there.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2386856]I'll check out BOG options, I;m flying from europe to MIA so no choice there.[/QUOTE]You must have a good reason to fly to MIA instead of to BOG, from AMS, CDG, FRA,....

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2386865]You must have a good reason to fly to MIA instead of to BOG, from AMS, CDG, FRA,....[/QUOTE]Them's the breaks.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2386870]Them's the breaks.[/QUOTE]Alamak! In English please?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2386721]Fly from USA to BOG, not necessarily from MIA (unless you really want to use that alliance). It should be cheaper and give you more connecting opportunities. Avianca flights BOG-CTG are very frequent, and if booked in advance not expensive. USA-BOG-CTG is my usual way of travelling to CTG when I have spare days (and money) after some travel to USA for work.

If you arrive to BOG too late, you can consider to spend one night in BOG. Hotels can be from cheap to expensive, as you prefer, and you have a plethora of good restaurants to choose. Also, you might visit Santa Fe, to have a different experience, or just have one less night for mongering but spend it to see how Bogota looks like.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand your post but I'm sure it has to be several flight leaving Miami to Cartagena daily. I know Jet Blue has routes to Cartagena I know I'm a big late but did you check Jet Blue?

[QUOTE=BMo814;2387341]I'm not sure I understand your post but I'm sure it has to be several flight leaving Miami to Cartagena daily. I know Jet Blue has routes to Cartagena I know I'm a big late but did you check Jet Blue?[/QUOTE]My beef with miami is the time of day the planes fly to CTG. There are NO flights after about 6 pm I think.

I'm a euro pean flying into mia from europeland around 18.30. The route and timing are fixed unfortunately this time.

I want to avoid shelling out several hundred dollars on a nights accommodation.

So ideally something like a 9 pm flight to CTG would be good. Doesn't exist. I can maybe get to BOG though for about 2 in the am.

In fact there is a 21.45 flight to Santo Domingo, DOm Republic, so maybe that will assist.

If I absoluetely want that CTG pussy then I got to lose additional days travelling, and stay in the US which kinda defeats the object given my very short time off the leash.

I can't even find an airbnb near miami airort for less than 100 $ approx. One or two are cheaper but they look like murder scene motels from the tv, so maybe not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2387352]My beef with miami is the time of day the planes fly to CTG. There are NO flights after about 6 pm I think.

I'm a euro pean flying into mia from europeland around 18.30. The route and timing are fixed unfortunately this time.

I want to avoid shelling out several hundred dollars on a nights accommodation.

So ideally something like a 9 pm flight to CTG would be good. Doesn't exist. I can maybe get to BOG though for about 2 in the am.

In fact there is a 21.45 flight to Santo Domingo, DOm Republic, so maybe that will assist.

If I absoluetely want that CTG pussy then I got to lose additional days travelling, and stay in the US which kinda defeats the object given my very short time off the leash.

I can't even find an airbnb near miami airort for less than 100 $ approx. One or two are cheaper but they look like murder scene motels from the tv, so maybe not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]I see well sounds like it's off to the DR, you can't lose either way plus it's Colombians and Venezuelans in the DR so you can get all the flavors you desire. Happy hunting.

This may be a repeat.

On My computer I can access flight info that others can't find. I did research for you and results were not good. From Mia to CTG even looking at all connections the latest departure was 1659 with a connection in panama. Same for ATL and JFK.

When I travel to south america I must go through MIA some times I arrive in Mia before noon with a 11 pm departure. Thats a rough layover. I looked for a cheat hotel with a shuttle bus, to get a few hours sleep. The best I could do was a days inn for $70.00. What a dump. The worst love motel I have stayed in was much better. Good luck.

The easiest way to get to Cartagena is land in Bogota and take one of the Avianca flights to Cartagena that leaves almost every hour or two.

You'll find Bogota has many more flights going into it than Cartagena. Cartagena has a much smaller airport.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2388036]The easiest way to get to Cartagena is land in Bogota and take one of the Avianca flights to Cartagena that leaves almost every hour or two.

You'll find Bogota has many more flights going into it than Cartagena. Cartagena has a much smaller airport.[/QUOTE]I wrote the same, but maybe it is not so obvious to everyone.

BTW, still I do not understand how one who wants to go to Colombia from Europe should buy a ticket to Miami. The only explanation I have is that he told home and office he goes to USA for business, but secretly goes to Cartagena.

I did the same years ago. I was in USA for business, but I added 4 secret days in CTG flying via MIA to BOG first.

What have we to do!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2388094]I wrote the same, but maybe it is not so obvious to everyone.

BTW, still I do not understand how one who wants to go to Colombia from Europe should buy a ticket to Miami. The only explanation I have is that he told home and office he goes to USA for business, but secretly goes to Cartagena.

I did the same years ago. I was in USA for business, but I added 4 secret days in CTG flying via MIA to BOG first.

What have we to do![/QUOTE]So meanwhile while members on the Medellin thread are going at it, everyone on the Cartagena thread have been joining forces for three days now to close the gap for Darrengap between Miami and Cartagena to help him salvage his trip. My hat is off to everyone trying to help this guy. Wish I could help , I did do a quick Google search but without knowing what day Darrengap is flying, still though American Airlines has a 9:45 PM that flies a straight shot into Bogota, and having flown from the domestic terminal out of Cartagena and I can concur with BlackPage that the majority of flights were headed to Bogota, so the reverse would only make sense also. It might mean spending a few hours in a hotel in Bogota a quic search on Google and Expedia revealed hotels for less than 50 usd , and then an early flight into Cartagena.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2388137]So meanwhile while members on the Medellin thread are going at it, everyone on the Cartagena thread have been joining forces for three days now to close the gap for Darrengap between Miami and Cartagena to help him salvage his trip. My hat is off to everyone trying to help this guy. Wish I could help , I did do a quick Google search but without knowing what day Darrengap is flying, still though American Airlines has a 9:45 PM that flies a straight shot into Bogota, and having flown from the domestic terminal out of Cartagena and I can concur with BlackPage that the majority of flights were headed to Bogota, so the reverse would only make sense also. It might mean spending a few hours in a hotel in Bogota a quic search on Google and Expedia revealed hotels for less than 50 usd, and then an early flight into Cartagena.[/QUOTE]My thoughts on the subject might provide an alternative. If my desire was to try someplace new, I'd look at a multi-city route. Go somewhere else for a day or two, which gives an easy connection to your desired destination. However, I don't see any attractive options for his departure window.

So next step is alternative airports. The Fort Lauderdale airport is less than 30 miles away from MIA and there's a flight to CTG via MCO (Orlando) leaving at 1 O:49 pm, at least for the random date I used.

This gives 2 possible options.

1. Find ground transportation from MIA to FLL and fly via Orlando.

2. Find a flight from MIA to MCO which gets you there in time for the MCO to CTG flight. There are 1 way flights starting at $49, which is almost certainly cheaper than taxi or Uber to FLL. Although there may be a cheap shuttle bus.

All this depends on what day you're arriving at MIA. It doesn't appear the MCO to CTG flies every day.

OK, must say thanks for all the assists.

In fact I've accepted I'll have to lose a days mongering, and I'm booking a cheapo room in MIA for the Friday, and I'll take an early flight out of MIA on Sat, probably.

So. Saturday night in CTG. Bring it on.

Haven't been there since 2005 and the great days of LDV.

If I'm there early enough I can spend a bit of time finding a chica friendly apartmento.

The original LDV is long gone, so is all the evening action focused on the clock tower and old town?

Last year in Havana it was around 120 minutes after landing that I managed to "relax" with the first of several chicas. Hoping for something similar this year.

Given that my bags were rigourously searched on entry in 2005 but now I'm an old fart I have some regular prescription blood pressure meds and ideally I'd like to bring the generic cialis as well.

Is that likely to cause issues if they go through all my luggage?

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388346]
The original LDV is long gone, so is all the evening action focused on the clock tower and old town?
[/QUOTE]The action is technically everywhere. After 10 pm you can find chicas at the clocktower and LDV, Space, and Isis are all on the same street. There are Venezuelanas everywhere.

During the day the beaches in bocagrande usually have chicas that are out enjoying the beach and will go back to your apartment for a bit of money.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388346]
Is that likely to cause issues if they go through all my luggage?[/QUOTE]Yes, I don't think they will care about your meds.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388346]OK, must say thanks for all the assists.
[/QUOTE]You simply cannot leave us like this, with the curiosity to know "WHY THE HELL HE FLIES FROM EUROPE TO MIA IF HE PLANS TO GO TO CTG??" :eek:

The only explanation I may find is that you told home and office that you are going to USA for business, but secretly you are going have a side trip to Cartagena. I did the same in the past, and more than once, so I would not be surprised. Honestly, I cannot imagine any other plausible reason for the choiice of flying to MIA.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388346]
Given that my bags were rigourously searched on entry in 2005 but now I'm an old fart I have some regular prescription blood pressure meds and ideally I'd like to bring the generic cialis as well.
Is that likely to cause issues if they go through all my luggage?[/QUOTE]I always travel with a big bag of drugs (medical drugs LOL) in my luggage, from antibiotics to sore-throat pills, to anti-acid for stomach, etc. etc. , whenever I fly with checked-in baggage for more than few days stay. I am speaking about a plastic bag with supermarket size. I never had a single problem for that, in 20-30 years of travelling.
I do not use so many meds and so often. I just wish to have my supply ready in case I fall sick for whatever, from flue to hitting my head against a pole because I look at my cell phone.

Be careful to mix ED drugs with blood pressure meds. The combined effect may make you faint.

Secondarily, you should NOT travel to Colombia with ED drugs, but buy your stock there. It's cheaper and prescription free. In Cartagena, go to Pasteur. They sell generic Sildenafil and others much cheaper than in other farmacies.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2388421]You simply cannot leave us like this, with the curiosity to know "WHY THE HELL HE FLIES FROM EUROPE TO MIA IF HE PLANS TO GO TO CTG??"
[/QUOTE]I'm mysterious. OK.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2388421]Be careful to mix ED drugs with blood pressure meds. The combined effect may make you faint.

Secondarily, you should NOT travel to Colombia with ED drugs, but buy your stock there. It's cheaper and prescription free. In Cartagena, go to Pasteur. They sell generic Sildenafil and others much cheaper than in other farmacies.[/QUOTE]I've snarfed cialis 10 MG or 20 MG several days in a row on my vacations, no sign of fainting, lots of signs of a stiff cock on demand.

I'm fond of generic Cialis, I like its gentle 12 hour effect, its like its me only 10 years ago. Sildenafil is a bit one-shot for me.

Any online services I can rely on if I want to order a chica to come visit?

I know the young guns are using something called Facebook but I'm not thrilled with Facebook as it appears I have to study hard, build profiles spend days cultivating contacts etc, and I have to do all this whilst keeping the data gobbling Facebook account entirely separate from my "real" life.

I'll bring an older smartphone and try for a local sim for contacts, so I can practice data hygenie, whilst also practicing corporeal dirtyness.

Any knocking shops worth seeking out? In 2005 I think there was Rosario's (or something) and another one over by the oil refinery I didn't bother with.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388462]I'm mysterious. OK.

I've snarfed cialis 10 MG or 20 MG several days in a row on my vacations, no sign of fainting, lots of signs of a stiff cock on demand.

I'm fond of generic Cialis, I like its gentle 12 hour effect, its like its me only 10 years ago. Sildenafil is a bit one-shot for me.

Any online services I can rely on if I want to order a chica to come visit?

I know the young guns are using something called Facebook but I'm not thrilled with Facebook as it appears I have to study hard, build profiles spend days cultivating contacts etc, and I have to do all this whilst keeping the data gobbling Facebook account entirely separate from my "real" life.

I'll bring an older smartphone and try for a local sim for contacts, so I can practice data hygenie, whilst also practicing corporeal dirtyness.

Any knocking shops worth seeking out? In 2005 I think there was Rosario's (or something) and another one over by the oil refinery I didn't bother with.[/QUOTE]
Facebook is mostly just a thing in Medellin.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]

For Casas and such check out Cartagena lists.
Scroll down to entry #491 dated 4-11-17 there is a list and a link to a map, you may have to be logged into google chrome to see the map but I am not sure. The list is a PDF file and is a download. Look for my PM about an apartment.

OK, I've got the map and list pretty much memorised, but I'll keep in mind its a few years old.

One last question: I recall at one point there was some kind of US Navy visit last time and the chica's were working flat out, as it were.

I suppose they're super secret but are there any known Navy visits by the US or similar to CTG during the end Jan\early Feb?

I traveled to Cartagena in May this year. I stayed near bocagrande at an apartment. It was chica friendly, especially after I greeted the doorman with a little cash. The girls are everywhere, the beach, the plaza, etc.

Had a nice girl come from the beach to my room. 120 K for the hour. She was 23 and light tan and incredible body, GFE and everything.

Also pulled a nice babe from the clock tower at night, although it was a bit pricier. 160 k for GFE for an hour, real nice, late twenties and a great all natural body.

Also don't be afraid to use the internet, that can help you negotiate better. As always the more Spanish you know, the better it will be for all.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388482]I suppose they're super secret but are there any known Navy visits by the US or similar to CTG during the end Jan\early Feb?[/QUOTE]Now I understand why you keep the mystery about why you have to fly to MIA. I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely you will meet any work colleague there.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388462]Any online services I can rely on if I want to order a chica to come visit?

I know the young guns are using something called Facebook but I'm not thrilled with Facebook as it appears I have to study hard, build profiles spend days cultivating contacts etc, and I have to do all this whilst keeping the data gobbling Facebook account entirely separate from my "real" life.[/QUOTE]Once on site, you will see so many girls around you, way more your dick can handle (and I am not minimizing your power), that frankly FB and online dating will be not an interesting option for you. You don't call Domino's to deliver you a pizza, when you are sitting in a all-you-can-eat buffet restaurant.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2388482]OK, I've got the map and list pretty much memorised, but I'll keep in mind its a few years old.

One last question: I recall at one point there was some kind of US Navy visit last time and the chica's were working flat out, as it were.

I suppose they're super secret but are there any known Navy visits by the US or similar to CTG during the end Jan\early Feb?[/QUOTE]I am not an expert on foreign relations but I know that tensions are extremely high between Colombia and Venezuela right now. I also know that tensions have been high between Venezuela and the US for years, and usually when tensions are high large visits by the US Navy are announced ahead of time. Not to mention that when something as large and slow moving as a US naval fleet is going anywhere its hard to keep it a secret anyway from Russian satellites. Russians have troops in Venezuela now. So most likely it would be announced ahead of time so as to give some bullshit reason for the visit and thus not raise tensions any higher. But I am just spitballing.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2388646]Now I understand why you keep the mystery about why you have to fly to MIA. I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely you will meet any work colleague there.[/QUOTE]Sometimes my humour is not evident to everyone.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2388646]Now I understand why you keep the mystery about why you have to fly to MIA. I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely you will meet any work colleague there.

Once on site, you will see so many girls around you, way more your dick can handle (and I am not minimizing your power), that frankly FB and online dating will be not an interesting option for you. You don't call Domino's to deliver you a pizza, when you are sitting in a all-you-can-eat buffet restaurant.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about the mystery, I can see its making you ill with worry.

Excellent news about chica numbers and availability. I have fond mamories of the beach on my last visit, chillin, chatting to chicas, getting rid of Tony the tout and then visiting my shag pad with the girls to "watch TV" or whatever. Hope to repeat that experience some 14 years after the original cum-stained adventure.

I have watched the Gemini Man movie the other day. I was so surprised (call me ignorant) to discover that half an hour or so is set in Cartagena! The beauty of its colored walls is breathtaking.

There is a long dynamic chase sequence, with Will Smith and his antagonist running on motorbikes around the narrow alleys of Getsemani and even on the Walls. I think I was the only one in the cinema room knowing how those places look for real. It was really an experience seeing those alleys, which I have seen in reality, starred in an action movie. I try to imagine how they could close half Getsemani to the public (how long? 1 full day? more than that?) to shoot the movie.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2389089]I have watched the Gemini Man movie the other day. I was so surprised (call me ignorant) to discover that half an hour or so is set in Cartagena! The beauty of its colored walls is breathtaking.

There is a long dynamic chase sequence, with Will Smith and his antagonist running on motorbikes around the narrow alleys of Getsemani and even on the Walls. I think I was the only one in the cinema room knowing how those places look for real. It was really an experience seeing those alleys, which I have seen in reality, starred in an action movie. I try to imagine how they could close half Getsemani to the public (how long? 1 full day? more than that?) to shoot the movie.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YXuRTaiCo[/URL]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2389264][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YXuRTaiCo[/URL][/QUOTE]On site for 6 weeks, but did not keep Getsemani closed to the public for 6 weeks. I wonder how long did they have to close the location to shoot the action scenes.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2389321]On site for 6 weeks, but did not keep Getsemani closed to the public for 6 weeks. I wonder how long did they have to close the location to shoot the action scenes.[/QUOTE]
I don't know that this article covers the whole time they were there


[URL]https://www.rcnradio.com/colombia/caribe/cierres-viales-por-el-rodaje-de-pelicula-de-will-smith-en-cartagena[/URL]

I'll be in Cartagena Nov 29 - Dec 5. Anyone going to be there around those dates? Maybe hangout grab a beer. I'm a 30 Hispanic so Spanish won't be a problem for me LOL.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2389592]I'll be in Cartagena Nov 29 - Dec 5. Anyone going to be there around those dates? Maybe hangout grab a beer. I'm a 30 Hispanic so Spanish won't be a problem for me LOL.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Yes I am planning to be there on those days. Would you please reach out to me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. Thank you Ryan.

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[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2389592]I'll be in Cartagena Nov 29 - Dec 5. Anyone going to be there around those dates? Maybe hangout grab a beer. I'm a 30 Hispanic so Spanish won't be a problem for me LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes I will be there, would you please reach out to me at [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]?

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Going to be in Cartagena 11/24/2019 - 11/27/2019. Let me know if we will cross paths.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2389592]I'll be in Cartagena Nov 29 - Dec 5. Anyone going to be there around those dates? Maybe hangout grab a beer. I'm a 30 Hispanic so Spanish won't be a problem for me LOL.[/QUOTE]You should post this in the thread called "travel announcements" it might get more attention from readers who are going there. This might get buried in this thread in the coming weeks but it will probably still be relevant in that thread, If you have not seen that thread just back out to "Colombia" and scroll down.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2389089]I have watched the Gemini Man movie the other day. I was so surprised (call me ignorant) to discover that half an hour or so is set in Cartagena! The beauty of its colored walls is breathtaking.

There is a long dynamic chase sequence, with Will Smith and his antagonist running on motorbikes around the narrow alleys of Getsemani and even on the Walls. I think I was the only one in the cinema room knowing how those places look for real. It was really an experience seeing those alleys, which I have seen in reality, starred in an action movie. I try to imagine how they could close half Getsemani to the public (how long? 1 full day? more than that?) to shoot the movie.[/QUOTE]I have not watched the movie. However, when I first saw the trailer, my first reaction was. Yeah, that background looked so familiar, and lo and behold, it was the walled city alright. I believe they even have shots of the clock tower.

Hi all,

Would anyone have recommendation as to where I should stay when in Cartegena that is guest friendly and somewhere close to the Clock Tower, hotel or Airbnb? I will travel there during the middle of the week, how does it compare to the weekend? Is Electra or LDV any good during the weekday? What about Clock Tower scenes? Any info would greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Johnson1;2353073]Clock tower was SUPER dead when I was in town 2 weeks ago. And I mean that in a good way. There aren't much guys in town and you could pick choose and refuse. Average price was down to 50 dollars, and yes, you could negotiate that down because work was so slow. I also found an apartment, with no front desk after 7, so all you can eat buffet from 7 pm onwards. I took 2 friends down with me and after showing them the ropes, they were able to fend for themselves, including 2 3 some at 80 in total. I encourage anyone going down now to be careful though. The Venezuelans have really took over the place and the men and street kids are very aggressive in begging and touching you as they beg. So watch your wallets. I also encourage you, since it is slow, to not be too hard on the negotiations. The girls do this for work and need to eat!

I am working on a membership, and senior members, I will share the apartment info. It is literally by the Clocktower!

I also have numbers to share if you want to hit the ground running hard.[/QUOTE]What is the name of this apartment near the Clock Tower? Is it also chica-friendly during the day when the front desk staff is there, or only after they leave at 7 pm!

[QUOTE=TDC985;2390084]Hi all,

Would anyone have recommendation as to where I should stay when in Cartegena that is guest friendly and somewhere close to the Clock Tower, hotel or Airbnb? I will travel there during the middle of the week, how does it compare to the weekend? Is Electra or LDV any good during the weekday? What about Clock Tower scenes? Any info would greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I would stay in or near Gestemani instead of the boring fancy hotels for more of a local vibe.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2390128]What is the name of this apartment near the Clock Tower? Is it also chica-friendly during the day when the front desk staff is there, or only after they leave at 7 pm![/QUOTE]Hello,

I am planning to stay near the clock tower, would you please share the apartment info that is guest friendly?

Hola all,

I will be in Cartagena right after Christmas from Dec 26-30. It will be my first time and am looking for a chica friendly hotel, apartment, or Airbnd near the clock tower. Any recommendations? Also looking for a wingman if anyone wants to hang. I usually go to the Del Rey in San Jose CR but decided to check out Colombia since I've heard so many good things about it. TIA.

[QUOTE=JoeqNight;2383030]Cartagena was an amazing city of fantasies and illusions. I am in my early forties, Hispanic with good Spanish (conversational), with knowledge of Colombia (been to Medellin a few times). I did my research prior to going (thanks board) and even did Tinder (my opinion on that later). Even with all this preparations, I still made some miscues and mistakes that I learned some lessons if I would return. But overall, I had a great time and would probably repeat (though probably a shorter weekend trip).

Day One Wednesday.

I booked the trip for about a week (September 18-24) arriving wed and leaving the following Tuesday. This was my first solo trip (been with friends before). I was contacting women on Tinder getting ready for my arrival. A 6 am flight out of NYC and layover in fort Lauderdale. On the second leg of the trip, I made friends with a pilot who decided on a whim to jump on board and check out Cartagena. He has never been to Colombia at all and didn't even have a hotel lined up. So we made friends and I decided to help him translate and help him to the to the walled city. So we took a taxi together and dropped him off. Then I checked into my spot and the place was sweet. Good security and great views of the city from the balcony. First mission was to get a Claro sim card for my Colombian phone so did that. I also got supplies (food, drinks, booze, Colombian Cialis and Colombian Viagra)..[/QUOTE]Excellent report JoeqNight. I will be in Cartagena over the Christmas break. Do you have a hotel, apartment, Airbnb that you recommend? Where did you stay? I'm looking for a place that is chica friendly. TIA.

I am planning to go at the end of Nov, what is the name of the apartment? Is it closer to clock tower?

[QUOTE=Phindo44;2388568]I traveled to Cartagena in May this year. I stayed near bocagrande at an apartment. It was chica friendly, especially after I greeted the doorman with a little cash. The girls are everywhere, the beach, the plaza, etc.

Had a nice girl come from the beach to my room. 120 K for the hour. She was 23 and light tan and incredible body, GFE and everything.

Also pulled a nice babe from the clock tower at night, although it was a bit pricier. 160 k for GFE for an hour, real nice, late twenties and a great all natural body.

Also don't be afraid to use the internet, that can help you negotiate better. As always the more Spanish you know, the better it will be for all.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

I'm a mde vet going to ctg for the first time soon. Just curious how far bocagrande is to clock tower? And I'm assuming the clock tower is in the old town?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2390941]I'm a mde vet going to ctg for the first time soon. Just curious how far bocagrande is to clock tower? And I'm assuming the clock tower is in the old town?[/QUOTE]It is a very short 6 to 8 K ride to the tower.

It is not that far, but is better to take a taxi.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1EljA0WD88l80-NTzK9Bh7unYVeY&ll=10.408264840248517%2C-75.52708930671383&z=14[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2390941]I'm a mde vet going to ctg for the first time soon. Just curious how far Bocagrande is to clock tower? And I'm assuming the clock tower is in the old town?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2390941]I'm a mde vet going to ctg for the first time soon. Just curious how far bocagrande is to clock tower? And I'm assuming the clock tower is in the old town?[/QUOTE]First of all, why don't you look Google Maps before asking here?

Second, Bocagrande is LONG: 2 or 3 km from one side to the other. Therefore, your question depends on where you are in Bocagrande. From Juan Valdez, it is less than 2 km and you can go walking in 20-25 minures. From the exreme in Laquito, the distance is almost 5 km and therefore you take nealry 1 hour on foot.

In both cases, conidering temperature, humidity, the poor view, the little taxi fare, nobody would consider to go on foot.

Hi all,

Going to Cartagena soon. Is it common for places to not have hot water? I read online that most places don't have hot water. Just wondering if I will have to take cold showers while I'm there.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2391135]... nobody would consider to go on foot.[/QUOTE]Well, I've done on foot at midday (hot), and at night (unbelievably dangerous traffic, crappy sidewalks with gaping, unmarked holes), several times. It is a stupid walk, and only a stubborn idiot would do it more than once.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2391158]Hi all,
Going to Cartagena soon. Is it common for places to not have hot water? I read online that most places don't have hot water. [/QUOTE]Most places rented by cheapskates who stay in poor houses. In my apartment in Bocagrande I had hot water, and it's not a luxurious penthouse. Just a normal apartment.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2391291]Most places rented by cheapskates who stay in poor houses. In my apartment in Bocagrande I had hot water, and it's not a luxurious penthouse. Just a normal apartment.[/QUOTE]Hot water is not a necessity in Cartagena. Its super hot 10 months of the year. The water is already hot just sitting in the pipes, probably 95 degrees.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2390941]I'm a mde vet going to ctg for the first time soon. Just curious how far bocagrande is to clock tower? And I'm assuming the clock tower is in the old town?[/QUOTE]I caught a cab from the clock tower to Bocagrande (Hollywood Beach) for 8 k. That is less than $3 USD. Totally worth it.

[QUOTE=TDC985;2390084]Hi all,

Would anyone have recommendation as to where I should stay when in Cartegena that is guest friendly and somewhere close to the Clock Tower, hotel or Airbnb? I will travel there during the middle of the week, how does it compare to the weekend? Is Electra or LDV any good during the weekday? What about Clock Tower scenes? Any info would greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]When searching Airbnb be sure to read the "house rules" in every listing. It will be mentioned if you can't bring outside guest and others will not mention it at all. I suggest that you check out the ones that don't restrict guest in the "house rules'.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2391323]Hot water is not a necessity in Cartagena. Its super hot 10 months of the year. The water is already hot just sitting in the pipes, probably 95 degrees.[/QUOTE]I have experienced cold water in Cartagena and I like a hot shower, not a lukewarm shower. not a warm shower, a hot shower. I only experienced it once and every other building I stayed since has had hot water.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2391459]I have experienced cold water in Cartagena and I like a hot shower, not a lukewarm shower. not a warm shower, a hot shower. I only experienced it once and every other building I stayed since has had hot water.[/QUOTE]If you look closely at the water heater, dryer, and washer (laundry) in the apartments many of them have English warnings on them. They're not sold locally. These are used appliances shipped to Colombia and fixed there then resold. This is why you'll see a state of the art water heater in an apartment but it barely works.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2391486]If you look closely at the water heater, dryer, and washer (laundry) in the apartments many of them have English warnings on them. They're not sold locally. These are used appliances shipped to Colombia and fixed there then resold. This is why you'll see a state of the art water heater in an apartment but it barely works.[/QUOTE]That might explain why my hot water heater in my Medellin apartment was so subpar. I am no expert in water heaters so I can't tell by looking if a water heater is tankless or if it is a mini tank. After experiencing the water going from acceptably warm to fucking cold after being in the shower just long enough to soap up everyday for like 3 days, I finally located the Bosch small suitcase sized gas water heater in the apartment mounted on the wall in the laundry room, while doing laundry I noticed the sound of the water heater turning on when I switched the setting to hot water, then I went to the shower and turned the water knob all the way to the hot position and then turned the water on, I heard the water heater kick on. So I realized the hot water heater burner unit was activated by turning on the hot water. regardless though the water would turn cold again long before I could finish a quick shower. I do not know if it had a defective thermostat or what but once the water ran cold again. I would have to turn the water off, then turn it back on in the extreme hot position to turn it back on. So I had to adjust my system taking a shower, wash hair then rinse then get the fuck out, turn water heater knob off turn it back on, wait a minute get back in shower wash upper body then rinse then get the fuck out, repeat for lower body. So I am pretty sure it was a mini tank. I have read on these forums that energy is very expensive in Colombia so maybe that is part of their calculation when they put these things in, but seriously think that a tankless water heater would be more be more efficient than my having to take 3 showers to get clean, and I believe that the added marginal cost to the rent would more than pay for itself in satisfied customers. It was a very nice studio apartment except for this major flaw, I would not rent that same apartment again because of this.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2391374]I caught a cab from the clock tower to Bocagrande (Hollywood Beach) for 8 k. That is less than $3 USD. Totally worth it.[/QUOTE]If it was daytime you were overcharged. :P

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2391505]That might explain why my hot water heater in my Medellin apartment was so subpar. I am no expert in water heaters so I can't tell by looking if a water heater is tankless or if it is a mini tank. After experiencing the water going from acceptably warm to fucking cold after being in the shower just long enough to soap up everyday for like 3 days, I finally located the Bosch small suitcase sized gas water heater in the apartment mounted on the wall in the laundry room, while doing laundry I noticed the sound of the water heater turning on when I switched the setting to hot water, then I went to the shower and turned the water knob all the way to the hot position and then turned the water on, I heard the water heater kick on. So I realized the hot water heater burner unit was activated by turning on the hot water. regardless though the water would turn cold again long before I could finish a quick shower. I do not know if it had a defective thermostat or what but once the water ran cold again. I would have to turn the water off, then turn it back on in the extreme hot position to turn it back on. So I had to adjust my system taking a shower, wash hair then rinse then get the fuck out, turn water heater knob off turn it back on, wait a minute get back in shower wash upper body then rinse then get the fuck out, repeat for lower body..[/QUOTE]What you're describing is an inline water heater. There is no tank. On the outside there should be 2 knobs. Some models have 2 knobs combined into 1, with an inner and outer knob. Like an old car stereo with the volume knob and the balance knob combined.

One knob controls the temperature. The other controls the flow rate. Reducing the flow rate increases the temperature. The problem is, they are difficult to set up properly. If the unit gets too hot, it shuts the gas off to prevent a fire. The unit will relight once the temperature comes back down.

I had 1 unit that I couldn't get adjusted. I could get about 3 minutes of hot water, before it shut down. Or I could get 10 minutes of barely warm water. I finally found a compromise. Turn on the shower, wait for hot water. Get wet, wet my hair and start washing my hair. When the water started getting cold, turned the shower head to the wall and let the water run while I finished washing my hair. This speeds up cooling down the unit. Then turn the water off for a few seconds and turn it back on. This will restart the heater. Rinse the hair, begin washing the body and repeat until finished.

If you want to take the time to adjust it, start by increasing water flow to max and temperature to minimum. Turn on the shower, all hot water and run it. If it makes it long enough for a shower, but isn't hot enough, increase the temperature by about 20% and try again. It might take 5 or 6 tries to get it adjusted right.

You probably won't be able to get unlimited steaming hot water, no matter how hard you try.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2391506]If it was daytime you were overcharged. :P[/QUOTE]When you arrive at the airport, walk 1-2 blocks away and you will be charged much less. They upcharge tourists.

Hey,

I am also going there about the exact same dates. I am trying to buy the membership with bit coins but it will take about 8 days to activate my account. Please check your inbox so I can update you then. Thanks brother.

Ryan.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2389592]I'll be in Cartagena Nov 29 - Dec 5. Anyone going to be there around those dates? Maybe hangout grab a beer. I'm a 30 Hispanic so Spanish won't be a problem for me LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2391566]When you arrive at the airport, walk 1-2 blocks away and you will be charged much less. They upcharge tourists.[/QUOTE]No. Don't "walk" blocks away. It's 25 k to get to Bocagrande. That's about 8 USD. So you're going to save 2 bucks by walking several blocks away hauling your luggage?

Don't do that.

Folks,

I will be in Cartagena from 11/29 to 12/06. This will be my first time and thinking to stay closer to Clock Tower. Do you have any airbnb or hotel recommendation that are chica friendly possibly in the Gestemani or closer to clock tower? If you have the name at [URL]airbnb.com[/URL], I would appreciate it. I am trying to get my full access here and it will take about 8 days to clear my bit coin for the subscription.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2391506]If it was daytime you were overcharged.[/QUOTE]OK. How much do was I overcharged because I'm not going to quibble over a few cents. According to my prior research it was in line or close to the mark. I still think that it was worth it over walking there.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2391374]I caught a cab from the clock tower to Bocagrande (Hollywood Beach) for 8 k. That is less than $3 USD. Totally worth it.[/QUOTE]For myself personally the taxi drivers in Cartagena are part of the "charm" of the city, if you get an older guy ask home to tell you difference between women from Cartagena and Barranquilla and Medellin, its pure entertainment. To hear them tell it every woman from each region has the same personality. I read (maybe on this forum) a long time ago to always agree to the fare before you get in the taxi in Cartagena and you are much more likely to get the correct fare. I personally do not expect anyone else to think its funny, but I think its funny that when you ask them the fare after you arrive they kind of get this look in their face like they don't know either (because surely they do) and you can see that they are making it up.

The annoying part to me is that I always seem to lack small currency and they always seem (emphasis on seem because I'm not sure they are not lying) to not have change. One Sunday morning I went out looking fo a place to do brunch at a rooftop restaurant and was taking a taxi a relatively short distance, this young taxi drivers lacks change for a 50 k bill, parks the taxi and gets out and walks away and is gone for what seemed like 15 minutes before he comes back with the change. I know I could make them commit to a fare before I get in and if it seems to high I could haggle, but since it's never more than a few thousand pesos and they probably live in a two room house with their two kids I don't give a shit.

On the other hand I thought I was going to fight a taxi driver in Rome one time when he was trying to charge me 30 Euro for an 8 Euro ride and I looked up and he had the meter covered with his cap and so had never ran the meter. This fucking idiot. His name and license number right there posted. I pulled out my phone and started taking pictures of his photo and license and the cap covering the meter. He panicked and started screaming at me in Italian, I looked at him very calmly as I held my phone like I was going to dial, and said "polly-see-uh?" I thought the veins were going to pop out of his head when he found some English and started screaming "Get Out". If a taxi driver in Rome gets caught not using the meter they are finished.

You can find the rates here by zone:

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/binrepository/decreto-0613-tarifas-para-servicios-de-transporte-1_1562038_20190426154355.pdf[/URL]

I already know the rates so I just pay the driver as I get out.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2391601]OK. How much do was I overcharged because I'm not going to quibble over a few cents. According to my prior research it was in line or close to the mark. I still think that it was worth it over walking there.[/QUOTE]Never mind. I was teasing you. Actually, you were "overcharged", but just 1 k, which is just 30 cents LOL. Daytime it's 7k, night time it's 8 k. You paid ok, just left a small tip.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2391566]When you arrive at the airport, walk 1-2 blocks away and you will be charged much less. They upcharge tourists.[/QUOTE]BAD ADVICE. No upcharge by touts or illegal drivers. The fee is fixed, because you take a ticket from the taxi official booth.

Certainly, I would not recommend a friend to walk 1-2 blocks away - especially with all the luggage! - to seek around a taxi who is not waiting regularly in line with others at the airport arrival curb (per airport policy), then to negotiate a lower fare than the official one, risking also to meet some nasty guy who may yes overcharge upon arrival. "Much less" you say? I bet it will not take a short time to find a car charging anyway less than the standard 18k.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2391582]No. Don't "walk" blocks away. It's 25 k to get to Bocagrande. That's about 8 USD. So you're going to save 2 bucks by walking several blocks away hauling your luggage?
Don't do that.[/QUOTE]Totally agree!
But note however that the fee from Airport to Bocagrande is 18 k-19 k (also specified a bit higher in your PDF, as 19.7 k), which I am used to round up to 20 k to leave a tip.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2391515]What you're describing is an inline water heater. .[/QUOTE]This is why I love this board. Hot chica information and plumbing advice, all in the same place!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2391821] The fee is fixed, because you take a ticket from the taxi official booth.

[/QUOTE]Yes, the fee is fixed, but your total fee is more at the airport curb because the Cartagena taxis pay an airport fee to pickup and drop customers there, and the taxi drivers pass the added fee on to you. Just like renting a car from an airport, you pay for the airport fee and airport taxes.

The regular taxi drivers a block away are not charged an airport fee nor airport taxes and neither are these fees passed on to you. I always wait for a regular passing cab at the drug store on the corner, 2 blocks away, where I buy my Viagra.

With a roller board bag on wheels it is easy to walk the block or two. Just do not let a Cartagena hustler grab the handles to your bag or roller board, or they will ask/demand for a tip and try to put you in an airport fee cab. "No Moleste!" should be sufficient, and of course they will retort, "I'm working, this is my job!" Or the hustler will tell you, "This is not your country!"

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2391979]

With a roller board bag on wheels it is easy to walk the block or two. Just do not let a Cartagena hustler grab the handles to your bag or roller board, or they will ask/demand for a tip and try to put you in an airport fee cab. "No Moleste!" should be sufficient, and of course they will retort, "I'm working, this is my job!" Or the hustler will tell you, "This is not your country!"[/QUOTE]So the moment you arrive you purposely walk two blocks away, argue with people along the way to save on what? 5 k pesos? 2 US dollars? If this is the way you behave on vacation what do you do when you're back home?

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2391979]Yes, the fee is fixed, but your total fee is more at the airport curb because the Cartagena taxis pay an airport fee to pickup and drop customers there, and the taxi drivers pass the added fee on to you. Just like renting a car from an airport, you pay for the airport fee and airport taxes.

The regular taxi drivers a block away are not charged an airport fee nor airport taxes and neither are these fees passed on to you. I always wait for a regular passing cab at the drug store on the corner, 2 blocks away, where I buy my Viagra.

With a roller board bag on wheels it is easy to walk the block or two. Just do not let a Cartagena hustler grab the handles to your bag or roller board, or they will ask/demand for a tip and try to put you in an airport fee cab. "No Moleste!" should be sufficient, and of course they will retort, "I'm working, this is my job!" Or the hustler will tell you, "This is not your country!"[/QUOTE]If I have more than just a carry on, I don't even mind giving a "porter" 10 k or even 20 k pesos to throw my luggage on a cart and push it to the taxi stand, in a country with over 10% unemployment these guys get out there and try to make an honest living. While they do seem like hustlers to us, I don't see them that way anymore. I have noticed that in Colombia as well as Mexico these people get out there and try to make their own job so to speak.

I was in Mexico City about ten years ago and had a date with a chica I met online, She picked me up and drove us to the restaurant that was in a crowded area of restaurants and bars and had that old style angled parking along middle of the road. She was cruising slowly looking for a parking spot when she spotted some guy waving at us. She cruised over to him and he guided her into a parking spot and she got out and handed him a like ten pesos (about 1 usd). I was a little confused so I asked what that was all about. She said not only did he find her a parking spot but he would watch the car while we were in the restaurant and she would give him some more pesos when we got back to the car. She said it in a way that normalized it to me. The fact that the two of them barely spoke two words to each other, made me realize that this is common. I have come to think that it is only a "hustle" if you are not getting any service out the deal.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2392025]She was cruising slowly looking for a parking spot when she spotted some guy waving at us. She cruised over to him and he guided her into a parking spot and she got out and handed him a like ten pesos (about 1 usd). I was a little confused so I asked what that was all about. She said not only did he find her a parking spot but he would watch the car while we were in the restaurant and she would give him some more pesos when we got back to the car. She said it in a way that normalized it to me. The fact that the two of them barely spoke two words to each other, made me realize that this is common.[/QUOTE]I am surprised about your surprise. This is common not only in Latin America, but also in Indonesia and many other countries I visited. In Batam we leave a tip (2 k IDR, which is 20 c USD) even to park a scooter outside disco.

[QUOTE=Summer2016;2391586]Folks,

I will be in Cartagena from 11/29 to 12/06. This will be my first time and thinking to stay closer to Clock Tower. Do you have any airbnb or hotel recommendation that are chica friendly possibly in the Gestemani or closer to clock tower? If you have the name at [URL]airbnb.com[/URL], I would appreciate it. I am trying to get my full access here and it will take about 8 days to clear my bit coin for the subscription.[/QUOTE]I suggest you look at the Dann Hotel. Stayed there a few years ago and its reasonable and clean. Has a Pool on the roof as well.

I just visited your fine city. Just sharing some things from my experience.

Holy cow on the clock tower. A lot of the girls there look like theyre straight out of a magazine. Beautiful, and dozens to choose from.

Most of the girls are asking for 200 k pesos, or less than $70 US, but I found that most will negotiate a bit. But ask for a tip at the end.

The chicas know where the hourly hotels are. But just know they quote 50 k regardless of where they are going to take you. The nicer hotels are 50 k for the hour. BUT. Some of the hotels are only 30 k. And tip the girl 20 k for bringing them business.

The lesson? If your girl maybe hasnt had a date that night, you might be able to negotiate the room rate as well.

I spent 4 glorious nights there sampling the local fare. Without going to a single disco. Which, I hear, have a lot of beautiful women as well. Maybe next time on the discos.

Around dark, the clock tower comes alive. As well as getsemanni. Especially near Havana club and surrounding area.

Enjoy. I did.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2390849]Excellent report JoeqNight. I will be in Cartagena over the Christmas break. Do you have a hotel, apartment, Airbnb that you recommend? Where did you stay? I'm looking for a place that is chica friendly. TIA.[/QUOTE]I stayed in an Airbnb in front of Bocagrande beach. I am sure if you look at the guest policies or ask the host, you will find what your looking for. Good luck.

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2392530]Holy cow on the clock tower. A lot of the girls there look like theyre straight out of a magazine. Beautiful, and dozens to choose from.[/QUOTE]Eh yes. Arriving from Sex Prison (we live in two different prisons, but both are prisons) the first sight is breath-taking. Dry mouth, speechless, no idea how to handle that overwhelming abundance. A kid in a fabulous (expensive) toy store.

Starting from the next day, one understands that not all that shines is gold and gets used to the sight. But yes, too much to choose, and choosing is not trivial.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2392748]Eh yes. Arriving from Sex Prison (we live in two different prisons, but both are prisons) the first sight is breath-taking. Dry mouth, speechless, no idea how to handle that overwhelming abundance. A kid in a fabulous (expensive) toy store.

Starting from the next day, one understands that not all that shines is gold and gets used to the sight. But yes, too much to choose, and choosing is not trivial.[/QUOTE]True. Kinda like choosing your flavor if Baskin Robbins.

I have been coming to Cartagena for years. I am here now. I have never seen so much ugly talent inside the clock tower square, club Space and Dolce Vita. Ugly, ageing hookers. I don't know what happened to all the young and pretty Venezuelanas from the past few years. Everyone's tastes are different, I am comparing mine to years of coming here, and Tinder dates and beach hookers, I have seen it all. It has gone down significantly and I doubt that any long timers would disagree.

Two different views around clock tower. One says all are ugly and old. Other says girls are out of a magazine beautiful. What believe. Planning my first trip there and staying a week. If none to my liking rent a car and drive along the coast to enjoy the sights.

Sammon go and see for yourself, it's a nice and beautiful city to visit. I am not sure where you are from and what you are used to.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2393193]Two different views around clock tower. One says all are ugly and old. Other says girls are out of a magazine beautiful. What believe. Planning my first trip there and staying a week. If none to my liking rent a car and drive along the coast to enjoy the sights.[/QUOTE]I think you should read back a few pages or even a few months and see that the overwhelming evidence is that the chicas are a mixed lot, but I think that overwhelmingly the majority of mongers are more than pleased with the looks of the chicas in Cartagena. I have been visiting Cartagena since 2009. I was there four weeks ago and I am a picky motherfucker, I always saw at least 6 around the clock tower that were stunners and a dozen more that were beautiful. Went to LDV once and it was equally if not more impressive. I saw maybe a few chicas that could have been in their late twenties but I also felt the need to ask a few chicas how old they were because they looked like they could have been under eighteen. I don't even know what to say when someone gives Cartagena a bad review, I just don't. I like latinas, and I may just be ignorant but I am not aware of any place in the world that has the convenience and selection for mongers than that area of walking distance between the clock tower and LDV and I have not even been inside Space. Because I didn't need to. People can complain about prices and services and have very valid points, but not the selection.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2393193]Two different views around clock tower. One says all are ugly and old. Other says girls are out of a magazine beautiful. What believe. Planning my first trip there and staying a week. If none to my liking rent a car and drive along the coast to enjoy the sights.[/QUOTE]Really man? Ugly and old? WTF? You're joking right? I was there recently and nothing can be further from the truth. You are NOT doing your research apparently. I can verify that the Clock Tower is a good pick up spot and LDV and Space are good hunting grounds as well. Bocagrande during the day if you like the beach. Come to Cartagena and make the best of your visit. Don't let the inaccurate reports discourage you!

[QUOTE=Sammon;2393193]Two different views around clock tower. One says all are ugly and old. Other says girls are out of a magazine beautiful. What believe. Planning my first trip there and staying a week. If none to my liking rent a car and drive along the coast to enjoy the sights.[/QUOTE]Weather you like CTG or not { I love the place }. It sounds like a great idea to drive along the coast. You will see BAQ, and Santa Marta. Each place has good things to partake in.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2391323]Hot water is not a necessity in Cartagena. Its super hot 10 months of the year. The water is already hot just sitting in the pipes, probably 95 degrees.[/QUOTE]I have been to Cartagena maybe 10 x in the last two years. I normally make it a buffer before heading to Medellin for the weekend. I've stayed in Air BNBs and Hotels. Bocagrande and the old city. The water in the pipes have never come out at 95 degrees. Hahaha. Now I agree with most the days are so hot that a cold shower is not the worst. But let's be real here. Most apartments are air conditioned. If you are staying in a decently renovated apartment or hotel here you will most likely have your AC on full blast. After returning from the hot day walking into a cool apartment is a must for comfort. That bring said your body will adjust to the air in the apartment within seconds. This negates that comfortable cool shower that everyone imagines. Yes maybe if you do not have AC the cold shower provides relief. But for the average traveler you will hate, and I mean hate the shower. You'll literally be washing one body part at a time. Hahaha. Most apartments have cool showers. Colder than room temperature do expect to get in and out rather quickly. Heated showers are hit or miss in CTG and when you find them, you will appreciate them. Expect cold showers everywhere and if you get lucky with a decently warm one be very happy.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2391582]No. Don't "walk" blocks away. It's 25 k to get to Bocagrande. That's about 8 USD. So you're going to save 2 bucks by walking several blocks away hauling your luggage?

Don't do that.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Rather you are 2 blocks away or at the terminal "You are a tourist still". The potential to get upcharged is still there. I have actually did the 2 block walk once and got the exact same price that you was offered when walking through the doors with my luggage. All the taxi guys know the prices. They know what they can get away with. And they also know that they must take what they can get with a minimum number in their head. The trick is to get that minimum number just like they want the maximum number you have in your head. Walk out to the main areas where all the taxis are lined up. Negotiate a price and go. Remember you are on vacation. If you are worried about saving 75 cents to a dollar by walking two blocks then I feel for ya. Best advice I can give is make sure they quote you in pesos!! I had one guy say 20. He purposely said 20 because he wasn't sure if I was going to give him 20 dollars or pesos. When I replied with pesos he smiled and said OK let's go no problem. I passed on him and got in a regular taxi with the prices set. He followed me begging and negotiating all the way until I got to a regular taxi. The guys 2 blocks away could be just as tricky.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2393524]I have been to Cartagena maybe 10 x in the last two years. I normally make it a buffer before heading to Medellin for the weekend. I've stayed in Air BNBs and Hotels. Bocagrande and the old city. The water in the pipes have never come out at 95 degrees. Hahaha. Now I agree with most the days are so hot that a cold shower is not the worst. But let's be real here. Most apartments are air conditioned. If you are staying in a decently renovated apartment or hotel here you will most likely have your AC on full blast. After returning from the hot day walking into a cool apartment is a must for comfort. That bring said your body will adjust to the air in the apartment within seconds. This negates that comfortable cool shower that everyone imagines. Yes maybe if you do not have AC the cold shower provides relief. But for the average traveler you will hate, and I mean hate the shower. You'll literally be washing one body part at a time. Hahaha. Most apartments have cool showers. Colder than room temperature do expect to get in and out rather quickly. Heated showers are hit or miss in CTG and when you find them, you will appreciate them. Expect cold showers everywhere and if you get lucky with a decently warm one be very happy.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the NH hotel right in front of the clock tower and was pleasantly surprised they had hot water LOL. Not chica friendly though. I'll be going next week but will be staying in an apartment on H2 building.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2393636]I stayed at the NH hotel right in front of the clock tower and was pleasantly surprised they had hot water LOL. Not chica friendly though. I'll be going next week but will be staying in an apartment on H2 building.[/QUOTE]I don't understand what is all this fuss about.

In Cartagena along the past 10-12 years I have stayed in 2 different 3-star hotels, one in Bocagrande and one near San Diego in centro, and they both had hot water.
In the last 5-10 years (sorry I cannot be more specific as I do not remember dates; time flies) I have always stayed in apartments in Laguito, not luxurious penthouses but normal apartments, and they all had hot water. The same was found by two friends of mine, who stayed in a 4-star hotel in Bocagrande and in an apartment in Laguito, respectively.
I did not find hot water in the shower, only in those cheap hotels in centro, where rooms are rented by the hour for 20k or less (guess why I was there).

I may only think that those who do not find hot water are probably staying in cheap low-category places.
(or in my apartments in Laguito I was actually using the water warmed up by the sun day time along the long pipes)

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2392530]I just visited your fine city. Just sharing some things from my experience.

Holy cow on the clock tower. A lot of the girls there look like theyre straight out of a magazine. Beautiful, and dozens to choose from.

Most of the girls are asking for 200 k pesos, or less than $70 US, but I found that most will negotiate a bit. But ask for a tip at the end.

The chicas know where the hourly hotels are. But just know they quote 50 k regardless of where they are going to take you.

Enjoy. I did.[/QUOTE]I'm planning my next trip and thinking to do the Manilla, Bogota, Cartagena tour. I got Tinder plus so decide to check the market at Cartagena and I'm pretty surprised. I asked them about the whole night price and the chicas wants something between 400 and 800 k. Well, I have traveled 7-8 countries in Europe and Asia and honestly only the high end China escorts wants that kind of money. I found it pretty ridiculous giving the fact that the girls market is really crowded and to that you can add the Venezuela chicas that are coming and coming. You can expect lower prices and ready to negotiate girls but the fact is that these crazy chicas wants ridiculous money and are not willing to lower the price. I guess they see the Tinder guys as stupid newcomers that can be converted to ATMs. It seems I need different approach, Tinder is not giving good results in Cartagena.

Maybe much better option is to check this clock tower, to find someone that I like and go somewhere to have fun. My question is you quoted a 200 k pesos price but this a one shot price or whole night price. If its the ST price, then what is the usual whole night price?

Also am I wrong or the price in Cartagena are higher then Medellin or Bogota?

Landed in CTG and everything smooth as hell for far. Fast out of immigration, the Airbnb host hooked up a cab I know there are tons but wanted to use this one bcuz I knew he would know exactly where the building was and since I don't know shit figured it would be a good idea. Cost 30.000 cop maybe a bit more than what I seen but not a big deal. Checked in the Airbnb and I'm seeing what looks like prepagos walking in like they stay here the place is Mirador de Laguito, so far it's excellent I would recommend other members look for it. Nice view from balcony, very modern, a bit pricey but it was supposed to been split between a friend and I it's 2 bedrooms. But not much more expensive than say if you were to stay in the Hilton which is close BTW. Get checked in, hit a morena venezolana that I met on tinder and she was here quick. So far so good, she help me with a little shopping, got some bud delivered and mmmm that pussy was good and hasn't spoke nothing of money yet and she still here now. I know why'all going to say negotiate up front but sometimes you got to go with the flow I'll keep why'all updated on how it unfolds. We supposed go watch the Colombia V Ecuador later at a bar in el centro.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2394140] Get checked in, hit a morena venezolana that I met on tinder and she was here quick. So far so good, she help me with a little shopping, got some bud delivered and mmmm that pussy was good and hasn't spoke nothing of money yet and she still here now. I know why'all going to say negotiate up front [/QUOTE]I hope you don't discover why the hard way. It's never a good idea to skip talking about money. She is NOT looking for a prince rescuing her, and you are not looking for a wife. It can be a bitter awakening, for you if she's a shark or for her if you are a son-of-a-be. Even out of extremes, disappointment for someone is very likely.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394128] It seems I need different approach, Tinder is not giving good results in Cartagena.
Maybe much better option is to check this clock tower, to find someone that I like and go somewhere to have fun. My question is you quoted a 200 k pesos price but this a one shot price or whole night price. If its the ST price, then what is the usual whole night price?[/QUOTE]The experienced monger knows that one should never start requesting TLN, but start with one shot, at minimum price, then add tips and a top-up if TLN sounds good, once you have tried chemistry.

Those girls seem to know all that too, as they have requested those incredible prices. Pretty obvious. They do not know you, you do not know them, so why one should commit for a whole night? They are trying to catch a big fish with big pockets. 150 k-200 k is for one hour. If there is chemistry and she likes you, she might stay sleeping for more, but never more than twice as that.

Good luck. (and help your good luck).

[QUOTE=BMo814;2394140]Mirador de Laguito, so far it's excellent I would recommend other members look for it. Nice view from balcony, very modern, a bit pricey but it was supposed to been split between a friend and I it's 2 bedrooms. But not much more expensive than say if you were to stay in the Hilton which is close BTW. [/QUOTE]If you are a gringo, you confidently can walk right in to the Hilton Hotel lobby, use their pool, jacuzzi and exercise room. Except for a blue towel at the pool, you need to give a room number to get a towel.

Have never been questioned and rarely been checked in the exercise room entrance. Same for Dann Carlton hotels, never have been questioned.

You may be charged extra by the cab drivers if you are a gringo, but being a gringo does have some benefits of racial profiling when you walk into expensive hotels.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2394169]I hope you don't discover why the hard way. It's never a good idea to skip talking about money. She is NOT looking for a prince rescuing her, and you are not looking for a wife. It can be a bitter awakening, for you if she's a shark or for her if you are a son-of-a-be. Even out of extremes, disappointment for someone is very likely.

The experienced monger knows that one should never start requesting TLN, but start with one shot, at minimum price, then add tips and a top-up if TLN sounds good, once you have tried chemistry.

Those girls seem to know all that too, as they have requested those incredible prices. Pretty obvious. They do not know you, you do not know them, so why one should commit for a whole night? They are trying to catch a big fish with big pockets. 150 k-200 k is for one hour. If there is chemistry and she likes you, she might stay sleeping for more, but never more than twice as that.

Good luck. (and help your good luck).[/QUOTE]We always appreciate the advice but I always find it funny the hint of negativity. I gave her 400 k she was here from like 7 pm until 10 Am and she didn't even ask for that. She went to shopping with me at olímpico we went and ate, smoked, fucked a couple time I think that's a fair price, what do you say Black Page?

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394128]I'm planning my next trip and thinking to do the Manilla, Bogota, Cartagena tour. I got Tinder plus so decide to check the market at Cartagena and I'm pretty surprised. I asked them about the whole night price and the chicas wants something between 400 and 800 k. Well, I have traveled 7-8 countries in Europe and Asia and honestly only the high end China escorts wants that kind of money. I found it pretty ridiculous giving the fact that the girls market is really crowded and to that you can add the Venezuela chicas that are coming and coming. You can expect lower prices and ready to negotiate girls but the fact is that these crazy chicas wants ridiculous money and are not willing to lower the price. I guess they see the Tinder guys as stupid newcomers that can be converted to ATMs. It seems I need different approach, Tinder is not giving good results in Cartagena.

Maybe much better option is to check this clock tower, to find someone that I like and go somewhere to have fun. My question is you quoted a 200 k pesos price but this a one shot price or whole night price. If its the ST price, then what is the usual whole night price?

Also am I wrong or the price in Cartagena are higher then Medellin or Bogota?[/QUOTE]Unless you're 48 hours away from arrival, you're wasting your time trying to set something up. These girls are well aware that out of every 10 guys telling them they'll be visiting soon, only 2 ever arrive.

400 k for TLN is crazy expensive? That's currently less than $120. For 8-12 hours. $120. $10-$15 dollars per hour. For sex. With a hot Colombian. And you're complaining?

Black Page, don't deny the different approach just because you don't know what exactly to do or because for some reason it doesn't works well for you. It seems that BMo814 is having great time. I did that all over the world and it works really well for me. I just got back from Indonesia (Bali & Jakarta) and spend 10 wonderful days with 4 freelance girls. I will not get in details about my approach because the topic of the conversation is different.

The question is.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394128]
Maybe much better option is to check this clock tower, to find someone that I like and go somewhere to have fun. My question is you quoted a 200 k pesos price but this a one shot price or whole night price. If its the ST price, then what is the usual whole night price? Also am I wrong or the price in Cartagena are higher then Medellin or Bogota?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2394201]We always appreciate the advice but I always find it funny the hint of negativity. I gave her 400 k she was here from like 7 pm until 10 Am and she didn't even ask for that. She went to shopping with me at olmpico we went and ate, smoked, fucked a couple time I think that's a fair price, what do you say Black Page?[/QUOTE]It seems that you enjoy your Day 1. So the expected price is really around 400 k for the night. It means I can expect something like 400 k pesos + additional drink, eat, small shopping. Which I guess will be 200-300 k more. Not good if you make marathons like me - 2 weeks non stop. But our hobby is not a cheap one after all. I just expected twice lower price for Colombia but it seems my expectations were quite far from the reality.

By the way my idea for the trip is the same as yours. Not an one shot and bye bye, but something like your experience. For me its just much much better in every aspect. I did that few weeks ago in Indonesia, and few other countries before that. Now planing the same thing for Colombia and Kenya. Please keep up with the good reports, they are very helpful for people like me who share the same. Trip plans and ideas, if I may say so.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2393205]Sammon go and see for yourself, it's a nice and beautiful city to visit. I am not sure where you are from and what you are used to.[/QUOTE]Thanks all for nice glowing report. I am from USA and love latinas. Visit to Costa Rica, DR, Panama liked it all. I was just referring to a comment from a monger about ugly old chicas.

Will visit soon and hopefully right a report.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394210]Black Page, don't deny the different approach just because you don't know what exactly to do or because for some reason it doesn't works well for you. It seems that BMo814 is having great time. I did that all over the world and it works really well for me. I just got back from Indonesia (Bali & Jakarta) and spend 10 wonderful days with 4 freelance girls. I will not get in details about my approach because the topic of the conversation is different.

The question is.



It seems that you enjoy your Day 1. So the expected price is really around 400 k for the night. It means I can expect something like 400 k pesos + additional drink, eat, small shopping. Which I guess will be 200-300 k more. Not good if you make marathons like me - 2 weeks non stop. But our hobby is not a cheap one after all. I just expected twice lower price for Colombia but it seems my expectations were quite far from the reality.

By the way my idea for the trip is the same as yours. Not an one shot and bye bye, but something like your experience. For me its just much much better in every aspect. I did that few weeks ago in Indonesia, and few other countries before that. Now planing the same thing for Colombia and Kenya. Please keep up with the good reports, they are very helpful for people like me who share the same. Trip plans and ideas, if I may say so.[/QUOTE]Thanks my guy. In the DR I got some solid chicks that look out for me and this one her in Cartagena seems the same. I meet her needs and she meets mines ie translating although I speak Spanish 70-80% fluently, just giving me little information and she got some good pussy. And I would hardly consider $118 dollars expensive to have someone at your disposal for over 12 hours. I’ll get back to you on that but I seen lots on photoprepagos for 100 mil but yeah most operate by the hour but in most cases when u buy in bulk price goes down right ? These long time members speak a lot of truth but it’s not always horrible like they make it to seem . This chick just wants to get a few dollars , and smoke and drink for free . I just went with her and seen her send half of what i gave her to her mom in Venezuela . I say that to say depend what u looking for get a simple chick and get more bang for ya buck or pay the high price for a model it’s all available . I’m not looking for the cheapest nor the most expensive I think what I paid is in line for what I seen on the forum and what I consider fair . Mainly I post for those who trying to make up their minds to get and idea then you go for it , like I’m doing . Living and learning

[quote]400 k for TLN is crazy expensive? That's currently less than $120. For 8-12 hours. $120. $10-$15 dollars per hour. For sex. With a hot Colombian. And you're complaining?[/quote]They are not paid by the hour, they are paid to leave after they are fucked and no fun any more.

[QUOTE=FakeNick;2394173]If you are a gringo, you confidently can walk right in to the Hilton Hotel lobby, use their pool, jacuzzi and exercise room. Except for a blue towel at the pool, you need to give a room number to get a towel.

Have never been questioned and rarely been checked in the exercise room entrance. Same for Dann Carlton hotels, never have been questioned.

You may be charged extra by the cab drivers if you are a gringo, but being a gringo does have some benefits of racial profiling when you walk into expensive hotels.[/QUOTE]I always stay in Laguito and have wondered over to the Hilton, and while I have never been ballsy enough to use the pool, I have used the ATM and wondered on to the beach to take some photos. I did this like three times no problem and then the fourth time I was stopped at the door and asked for either my room number or my reservation, so maybe it is hit or miss. P.S. I am very gringo.

What's up all. I'm heading to Cartagena in January for a stag. Is it like in the states where I have to book through a website for chicas or does cruising around this clock tower / areas make more sense? Can you expect to see some 8+s with nice boobs regularly?

[QUOTE=BMo814;2394140] I know why'all going to say negotiate up front but sometimes you got to go with the flow I'll keep why'all updated on how it unfolds. We supposed go watch the Colombia V Ecuador later at a bar in el centro.[/QUOTE]You got lucky you had a decent chica, BlackPage is giving you solid advice, the one time you catch the wrong chica who asks for $1000 at the end of the night, you have no recourse when she calls the cops, ask that secret service agent from back in 2012 who thought he was quoted 800 k pesos but because he didn't clarify she meant $800 and it was his ass in a bind, it happens often.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394128]Tinder is not giving good results in Cartagena.

Maybe much better option is to check this clock tower, to find someone that I like and go somewhere to have fun. My question is you quoted a 200 k pesos price but this a one shot price or whole night price. If its the ST price, then what is the usual whole night price?

Also am I wrong or the price in Cartagena are higher then Medellin or Bogota?[/QUOTE]Tinder is almost worthless in Cartagena, and completely unneeded, Clocktower, LDV, Space at night have many fantastic options, and then there is Playa Hollywood (Hollywood Beach) during the day. Meet chicas, take there number, don't want to fuck them when you meet them? Call them later, negotiate a price for what you want to do, Want to go to dinner, then dancing then fuck all night? Ask them. I have had great times with chicas that I liked in cartagena that I met at LDV and the old Elektra. Follow up during the day and sometimes get a better rate. As for usual TLN price it is 400 k, but BlackPage is giving you good advice, try short time first to get a vibe from the chica that you like before doing TLN, I have had a chica that only stayed until 4 am, said she got a text from her mom and had to go then demanded TLN fee even though we had only had sex once a couple hours before and she claimed since it was "morning". As for Cartagena being more expensive than other places this is mostly true but here are a lot of factors that go into it. Short time in casas in Medellin or the bottom price for SWs etc are way cheaper but the experience is also a lot different also.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2394169]I hope you don't discover why the hard way. It's never a good idea to skip talking about money. She is NOT looking for a prince rescuing her, and you are not looking for a wife. It can be a bitter awakening, for you if she's a shark or for her if you are a son-of-a-be. Even out of extremes, disappointment for someone is very likely.

The experienced monger knows that one should never start requesting TLN, but start with one shot, at minimum price, then add tips and a top-up if TLN sounds good, once you have tried chemistry.

Those girls seem to know all that too, as they have requested those incredible prices. Pretty obvious. They do not know you, you do not know them, so why one should commit for a whole night? They are trying to catch a big fish with big pockets. 150 k-200 k is for one hour. If there is chemistry and she likes you, she might stay sleeping for more, but never more than twice as that.

Good luck. (and help your good luck).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMo814;2394201]We always appreciate the advice but I always find it funny the hint of negativity. I gave her 400 k she was here from like 7 pm until 10 Am and she didn't even ask for that. She went to shopping with me at olmpico we went and ate, smoked, fucked a couple time I think that's a fair price, what do you say Black Page?[/QUOTE]I repeat myself from above, you caught a decent chica this time, but could very well get burned badly if you do not negotiate in advance. You may find it funny the hint of negativity from BlackPage (you should read some of the posts he responded to me LOL) but he is just giving you solid advice, he is not calling you stupid and just walking away. Not negotiating beforehand is Russian roulette.

I said the old members speak truth, I know I got lucky. How this happened before I left I was messing around on tinder and met her, we had talked for a couple weeks just small talk so I had an idea she wasn't a total ***** and most that's hella greedy can't get out of their own way, they will say hola then the price before you get the name. Call me weird and lucky bcuz I did this my first time to the DR even had the chica meet me at the airport and had never met her and all went well with that too. I'm not advising anyone to do it like this I didn't say Blackpage is wrong matter fact he is super right but I reported bcuz it was my experience.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2394140]Get checked in, hit a morena venezolana that I met on tinder and she was here quick. So far so good, she help me with a little shopping, got some bud delivered and mmmm that pussy was good and hasn't spoke nothing of money yet and she still here now. I know why'all going to say negotiate up front but sometimes you got to go with the flow[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Not everyone is a hooker, and if she is a hooker then more than likely she will bring money up. I have even sometimes embarrassed myself by handing chicks money after and they are like what is this for. Go with the flow. If the chick says something about money in the end, of course you have x amount around that you can always hand her.

Every situation is different. You are the one in the situation and should have a feel for what is going on. I can't tell you from my couch why the girl is with you or what she is expecting. I can tell you that I have met hundreds of women online, and 9 times out of 10 the hookers want to know how much they are getting before they show up. And in cases like this I will always say I am sorry, I did not know you were a hooker. I am just looking for normal women. I even got cussed out and blocked by a chick in Medellin that I was talking to online when I asked if she was a hooker. Personally, I prefer to meet my hookers on site, whether it is a disco, casa, street, and not through the internet.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2394375]You got lucky you had a decent chica, BlackPage is giving you solid advice, the one time you catch the wrong chica who asks for $1000 at the end of the night, you have no recourse when she calls the cops, ask that secret service agent from back in 2012 who thought he was quoted 800 k pesos but because he didn't clarify she meant $800 and it was his ass in a bind, it happens often.[/QUOTE]Can you give other examples of some chicks calling the cops? These chicks knew who those guys were and tried to fuck them over. They are not about to tell the average dude they meant $800. You have seen no other chicks on the news talking about some punter was supposed to give them $800 and screwed them over.

The same way she can say I owe her $1000, I can say she did not tell me she was a hooker; I thought she was a regular chick. Hell, if she didn't drive up in a Mercedes and is not living in a mansion, then common sense would tell them she is not getting $1000 from mfs anyway. Bich you living in a shack. Where are all these $1000 that guys have supposedly been paying you?

If you are a weak mf and do not know how to stand up for yourself, then yes, you should get prices up front in writing and on video and everything else. But if you are used to dealing with people then going with the flow is fine. I have fucked a couple thousand chicks and only one has tried that calling the cops shit. It was in the DR. The girl tried to change the price after I gave her the agreed upon money. When the cops got there I asked them how much they made a month. I think they said like $200. I said and this bich thinks I would agree to give her half of what you make in 1 month for staying here only a few hours? Even if I was a fool, I would not be that kind of fool. The cops made her go home.

In my story the chick tried to change the price. So even if you do get a price up front what is to stop them from changing it later and calling the cops as was my situation?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2394495]I totally agree. Not everyone is a hooker, and if she is a hooker then more than likely she will bring money up. I have even sometimes embarrassed myself by handing chicks money after and they are like what is this for. Go with the flow. If the chick says something about money in the end, of course you have x amount around that you can always hand her.

Every situation is different. You are the one in the situation and should have a feel for what is going on. I can't tell you from my couch why the girl is with you or what she is expecting. I can tell you that I have met hundreds of women online, and 9 times out of 10 the hookers want to know how much they are getting before they show up. And in cases like this I will always say I am sorry, I did not know you were a hooker. I am just looking for normal women. I even got cussed out and blocked by a chick in Medellin that I was talking to online when I asked if she was a hooker. Personally, I prefer to meet my hookers on site, whether it is a disco, casa, street, and not through the internet.[/QUOTE]You took all the words out of my mouth. Don't get me wrong the forum is and has always been valuable and they got a point but scared man can't win and like Mr E say the putas, the ones really on that money hunt talk money right after hola jaja. I'm here in Colombia for 2 weeks I'm really looking forward to Medellin so I haven't even hit the clock tower yet. I hung out with this same morena all day yesterday we went and watched the game in el centro so I got to peep some of the action and she knows what time it is she wanted to take me to dolce vida LOL. But we came back to the apartment got hella high and she gave me a nice twerk show on the balcony before we fucked. So it's 2 days now when I handed her billetes today so when I kick her out I don't got to hear it she says más Plata? And it was less than what I gave her first day. But tonight I plan to get active and knock a few down and don't worry to keep my rep and my ISG brethren happy I'm low ballin hahhaha, call me tacaño Tony.

[QUOTE=FakeNick;2394252]They are not paid by the hour, they are paid to leave after they are fucked and no fun any more.[/QUOTE]I'm familiar with the punchline. However, it really doesn't apply for someone looking for TLN. I'm assuming he's not planning on fucking her, paying her to go wait outside the room and then calling her back in when he's ready to fuck again. In which case, it's useful to compare costs. If he can only go twice a night and he can find girls for 150 k, he's better off getting them by the hour. If he can go 3 or more times, he's saving money with a 400 k TLN.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2394498]

If you are a weak mf and do not know how to stand up for yourself, [/QUOTE]I spent 6 years in the infantry, a few years riding with bikers, and a couple of years living in a place not of my choosing as a result of that lifestyle. But I guess you will just have to take my word for it that no one who knows me has ever accused me of being "weak". Let alone "being able to stand up for myself" . Yet this has nothing to do with the conversation. It is about wanting to know, before, what I am getting into, period.

I can not speak for anyone else but myself, but I quite simply like to know what I am getting into, not because I am "scared" or because I am going to pee in my pants when some chica calls the cops, but because I simply want to know. I do not go on vacation to deal with even the smallest of hastles. I do not want the fucking taxi to be late taking me to the airport, I do not want the plane to be delayed, I don't even want them to tell me that I have to check my carry on bag planeside. I also do not want to be standing arguing with some chica about stupid bullshit over a misunderstanding or a deception on her part.

Before there was a Tinder, I always used the Cupids, Latinamerican before there even was a Colombian cupid. It worked wonders for me on a trip to Mexico City so later I tried using for Colombia. I used to try to set up weekend retreats with chicas I met on there but the two times I did both went badly. I took the bus to Barranquilla to hook up with the chica I was planning to bring back to Cartagena. She was a stunner, smoking hot 36-26-36 (of course I am estimating) and she was 38 years old but still stunning. I met up with her at the Hotel Dann, did not even realize that I was dealing with a semi-pro, it was only after I was there and we had dinner, back to the room for shots of Don Julio tequila and dancing and she pulls off her panties from under her dress and bends over the dresser and I bareback fucked her doggy style. After we lay down on the bed she tells me she needed the equivalent of $100 for a baby sitter for the weekend, and the equivalent of $400 dollars for herself for the weekend. All she ended up getting was taxi fare home, but I was also out the price of my round trip ticket to Barranquilla and the price of the room at the Hotel. Only after getting over being pissed about her deception did I think it was really worth it fucking her that one time LOL. I had talked to her for a couple of weeks prior to going to Colombia and the subject of money was never discussed other than I saying I would cover her expenses for the trip. For the exchange rate at the time this $400 for three nights and the days inbetween may not have been outrageous, but it was dishonest of her not tell me all this in advance, and no she did not threaten to call the cops or even really throw a fit, when I called her out on it. Having made a trip to Mexico City and gone out with 5 different chicas I met on Latinamerican that were not pros or semi-pros (fucked 3 out of 5 of those), I had no reason to suspect anything.

Ever since that I always get clarification, I do not want my time wasted. I do not want to be surprised. I want to enjoy my time on vacation, and I mosty I do.

All that being said, this is for me. If guys take dates on Tinder and the chica never mentions money then more power to them. I am in my fifties and look more like seventy, if a hot young chica responds to me on Tinder, you better bet that I am going to want to know "how much". Fifteen years ago when I first started venturing south of the border, it didn't cross my mind to ask. As for getting hit with a big bill at the end of a session, this I am just repeating from members on the forum warning me in posts and in PMs, no I cannot name another instance of chicas talking to the news but then again I doubt that makes the news when it does not involve secret service.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2394498]If you are a weak mf and do not know how to stand up for yourself, then yes, you should get prices up front in writing and on video and everything else. But if you are used to dealing with people then going with the flow is fine. I have fucked a couple thousand chicks and only one has tried that calling the cops shit. It was in the DR. The girl tried to change the price after I gave her the agreed upon money. When the cops got there I asked them how much they made a month. I think they said like $200. I said and this bich thinks I would agree to give her half of what you make in 1 month for staying here only a few hours? Even if I was a fool, I would not be that kind of fool. The cops made her go home.
In my story the chick tried to change the price. So even if you do get a price up front what is to stop them from changing it later and calling the cops as was my situation?[/QUOTE]Never, never trust a WG! Never trust a WOMAN. Probably every man on this website, who has tried to leave a woman, get a divorce, or break up a live in relationship has a story about being accused of Domestic Violence, battery or the cops being called. Does not matter if you are weak or fuck a mother. 10 years in the infantry here and it happens at the end of every relationship I have had with a woman. They threaten to call the cops to get their way or the do call the cops to advance their position, get the house and kids and support as a battered woman. They even invented the term, "Verbal abuse" which means the woman did not like what their man said.

The last woman I was with claimed she complained to the police officer about me being abusive. I showed her a photo of me with the Chief of Police of our city and asked her if she wanted us to invite him and his family to dinner at our house, because we were good friends. Then she changed her story and said she had lied and never talked with a police officer at all.

Thanks for the info Mojo Bandit, much appreciated.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2394498]Can you give other examples of some chicks calling the cops? ...
[/QUOTE]Yes, it happened to a buddy of mine, in Colombia. He was expecting one girl but she could not make it. Instead, she proposed to send her "cousin". She sent pictures of the cousin and my buddy agreed to see her.

Except that the guards at the apartment building figured out quickly that her ID was fake. She was under age and they would not let her in. She called the guy and after learning about the details, he asked her to leave and canceled the appointment. She said "not so fast buddy". She demanded payment, and when he refused she called the cops. Surprisingly, the cops sided with her and he had to pay her. Even worse, the next morning, at 6 am security came to his door and asked him to leave the building.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2394724]Yes, it happened to a buddy of mine, in Colombia. He was expecting one girl but she could not make it. Instead, she proposed to send her "cousin". She sent pictures of the cousin and my buddy agreed to see her.

Except that the guards at the apartment building figured out quickly that her ID was fake. She was under age and they would not let her in. She called the guy and after learning about the details, he asked her to leave and canceled the appointment. She said "not so fast buddy". She demanded payment, and when he refused she called the cops. Surprisingly, the cops sided with her and he had to pay her. Even worse, the next morning, at 6 am security came to his door and asked him to leave the building.[/QUOTE]This is just one of the many bad things that can happen to a Monger. As time goes on, and I see more, and more bad things happen I really am coming to understand that the best way to have trouble free action is in a Casa. All my Casa visits over the years have been trouble free. Of course sometimes a not great experence occurs, but never any drama. Also the Casa experence seems to be the most ecomonical way to have fun. Best part of all is if you find a Gem then you can try to get her away for even more fun.

Checked out the clocktower and Dolce Vita last night. Crazy packed with hotness, nothing new to report just reaffirmation for those making up their minds. I left with a little cutie from Bogota and whoa, and she is staying in the Same building I was what a great coincidence LOL. Tln why'all know the damage well worth it. Headed back to the clock tower tonight but got to repeat with the Bogotá chick. Also my guy pulled a Venezolana with the phatest ass and pretty as hell. Idk the reports about CTG not being nice were about maybe I biased because I love latinas but my eyes work good and I know I seen hella baddies.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2394612]I spent 6 years in the infantry, a few years riding with bikers, and a couple of years living in a place not of my choosing as a result of that lifestyle. But I guess you will just have to take my word for it that no one who knows me has ever accused me of being "weak". Let alone "being able to stand up for myself" . Yet this has nothing to do with the conversation. It is about wanting to know, before, what I am getting into, period.

I can not speak for anyone else but myself, but I quite simply like to know what I am getting into, not because I am "scared" or because I am going to pee in my pants when some chica calls the cops, but because I simply want to know. I do not go on vacation to deal with even the smallest of hastles. I do not want the fucking taxi to be late taking me to the airport, I do not want the plane to be delayed, I don't even want them to tell me that I have to check my carry on bag planeside. I also do not want to be standing arguing with some chica about stupid bullshit over a misunderstanding or a deception on her part..[/QUOTE]It's called Recon. Not weak but smart!

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2395170]It's called Recon. Not weak but smart![/QUOTE]Funny you should say that, since I was in a Recon platoon LOL.

I usually do mde every couple months 2 weeks at a time. But this time I only have a weekend to spare. So wanted some vets advice on what is a good amount for a weekend stay for a girl to take with me on the weekend. I usually give her 500 k when in mde and she spends 14-15 hours with me per stay. Considering the expenses I would pay her flight food etc. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2395264]I usually do mde every couple months 2 weeks at a time. But this time I only have a weekend to spare. So wanted some vets advice on what is a good amount for a weekend stay for a girl to take with me on the weekend. I usually give her 500 k when in mde and she spends 14-15 hours with me per stay. Considering the expenses I would pay her flight food etc. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]It sounds like you have sessioned with this girl before, that's really important because you are kinda going to be stuck with her, and I've had bad experience being stuck. Personally I think 500 k per day is all I would pay, the travel expenses are not something she's going to consider part of the package of pay, unless you've never been to Cartagena and is itching to go. Either way 500 k a day is plenty of pay for a prepago in Colombia.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2395040]Checked out the clocktower and Dolce Vita last night. Crazy packed with hotness, nothing new to report just reaffirmation for those making up their minds. I left with a little cutie from Bogota and whoa, and she is staying in the Same building I was what a great coincidence LOL. Tln why'all know the damage well worth it. Headed back to the clock tower tonight but got to repeat with the Bogot chick. Also my guy pulled a Venezolana with the phatest ass and pretty as hell. Idk the reports about CTG not being nice were about maybe I biased because I love latinas but my eyes work good and I know I seen hella baddies.[/QUOTE]Ask your guy was the girl from Venezuela with the fat ass named Teresa? Sound like that could be here. Hangs in and around Dolce Vita. She is pretty too.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2395224]Funny you should say that, since I was in a Recon platoon LOL.[/QUOTE]More fun and lots safer now doing it for pleasure, right? You're definitely smart and whoever thinks weak has no idea.

Glad to put a smile to this.

Folks,

I will be staying 3 blocks near the Clock Tower from 11/29 to 12/06. Please send me a message if you would like to meet up for a drink and hunt nice girls in the city.

Thanks,

Ryan.

Loving CTG, Walked through laguito and boca grande this morning checking it out, noting where some of the places are I seen on World Travlers map stopped at a little restaurante next to Riquísimo BBQ and had breakfast, one chica I saw in dolce vita was eating my slow ass did recognize who she was I woulda loved to gotten her contact this Bonita morenita looked like Rhianna but with curly hair and I know getting her outside dolce vita would knocked 100 mil off that price tag LOL. Anyway had señora 43 years old come through that I met off tinder. Now I know you guys are saying wth but I like the older ones sometime, the bbj is always right and they work hard to please LOL. Damage 270 k, almost 3 hours, 3 leches, and photos.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2394517]I'm familiar with the punchline. However, it really doesn't apply for someone looking for TLN. I'm assuming he's not planning on fucking her, paying her to go wait outside the room and then calling her back in when he's ready to fuck again. In which case, it's useful to compare costs. If he can only go twice a night and he can find girls for 150 k, he's better off getting them by the hour. If he can go 3 or more times, he's saving money with a 400 k TLN.[/QUOTE]And I like to have the company as well I smoke and drink while enjoy their beauty, also if you speak Spanish you can get a good feel of the city and cranky I like to hear the perspective of people who live in the countries I visit. I saw the same one the next night and she stayed even longer this time GFE all the way matter fact she only left because I had another one coming.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2395307]More fun and lots safer now doing it for pleasure, right? You're definitely smart and whoever thinks weak has no idea.

Glad to put a smile to this.[/QUOTE]My military time was all peacetime, post Vietnam / Cold War days. So it was never dangerous in that way. Ny service time was in the 80's. I like to be clear about that out of respect for those who served in combat theaters. We trained hard and were prepared but never got that call to go anywhere and apply that training while I was in. They were preparing my unit for the jungles of Central America, and we always thought that we would end up in Honduras / Nicaragua, which part of my unit did a year later after I was already gone, but even they never had to fire a shot, because the Sandinistas ran away before it was necessary. To try and bring this post back to mongering though, we did our jungle training in Panama back then because the USA Still had military bases there. This was my first mongering adventure. We did a weekend pass in Panama City, I don't know what Panama city is like now but back then under Noriega's regime it was wide open. Some guy in our company who spoke Spanish said he was going to go try to score some "smoke" and a bunch of guys threw in some cash, the guy showed back up with a small trash bag full. The chicas in strip clubs / bars costs about $15 in early 1980's dollars, I was still a fresh private and 17 years old and many of those chicas were my age or younger. That wild weekend was a major contributor to my lifelong love of chicas. Three years after I got out, elements of my unit would also be part of the invasion of Panama. Which probably led to the end of $15 dollar chicas, so no good deed goes unpunished. LOL.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2395634]I don't know what Panama city is like now but back then under Noriega's regime it was wide open. The chicas in strip clubs / bars costs about $15. Three years after I got out, elements of my unit would also be part of the invasion of Panama. Which probably led to the end of $15 dollar chicas, so no good deed goes unpunished. LOL.[/QUOTE]It did lead to the end of the $15 chicks. The price fell to $10! Thanks for serving.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2395649]It did lead to the end of the $15 chicks. The price fell to $10! Thanks for serving.[/QUOTE]Good to know about the $10 chicas, and Mr E if you are carrying that ID card, you probably deserve a bigger thanks for serving that I do. I know that those are only given for service connected circumstances, so thank you for your service.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2395634]My military time was all peacetime, post Vietnam / Cold War days. So it was never dangerous in that way. Ny service time was in the 80's. I like to be clear about that out of respect for those who served in combat theaters. We trained hard and were prepared but never got that call to go anywhere and apply that training while I was in. They were preparing my unit for the jungles of Central America, and we always thought that we would end up in Honduras / Nicaragua, which part of my unit did a year later after I was already gone, but even they never had to fire a shot, because the Sandinistas ran away before it was necessary. To try and bring this post back to mongering though, we did our jungle training in Panama back then because the USA Still had military bases there..[/QUOTE]Nice to hear that you were in peacetime. Great luck since not much of it and you learned a lot and did your part. You were ready though. But what a great intro to another life at 17! You got spoiled early! Obviously that life if still strong in you. When your first experience in something is positive it lasts forever.

Keep enjoying yourself.

[QUOTE=FakeNick;2394173]If you are a gringo, you confidently can walk right in to the Hilton Hotel lobby, use their pool, jacuzzi and exercise room. Except for a blue towel at the pool, you need to give a room number to get a towel.

Have never been questioned and rarely been checked in the exercise room entrance. Same for Dann Carlton hotels, never have been questioned.
[/QUOTE]The Hilton is pretty nice. I would just get a room there and relax if I wanted to use the facilities. Thankfully, I haven't had to sneak into places since I was a teenager.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2394169]
The experienced monger knows that one should never start requesting TLN, but start with one shot, at minimum price, then add tips and a top-up if TLN sounds good, once you have tried chemistry.

[/QUOTE]Everyone is different, but I definitely tend to agree with you. Once you establish chemistry, everything is usually a lot smoother. Sometimes TLN means different things to different people.

I arrived in Cartagena today. Went to clock tower a few times to see what's there. What are those party buses? Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396024] What are those party buses? Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?[/QUOTE]Party buses are called "Chiva" which means goat. They are full of drunken people and play loud music.

Girls by the clock tower are working girls if they stand around in ones and twos doing nothing, show some leg skins, talk to strangers like you, and if they make eye contact with you.

If they are with their mother, a group of boys and girls, a group of friends or family, they are not working girls.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396024]I arrived in Cartagena today. Went to clock tower a few times to see what's there. What are those party buses? Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?[/QUOTE]Research. Research. Research!

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396024]I arrived in Cartagena today. Went to clock tower a few times to see what's there. What are those party buses? Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?[/QUOTE]The party buses are basically just that, a bunch of people riding around on a bus drinking and. Yes - dancing on a bus. When you see one rocking at a red light you will know what I mean, those drivers must be taking valium because that shit would get on my nerves if I was driving around a bunch of drunks rocking my bus.

I had those same type of questions way back in the day. How do you know she his working? If it is after say 10 PM and she is looking hot and she is just standing around either chatting it up with other chicas, or if she is alone and either standing still playing with her phone or looking around like she is bored, then she is 90% likely to be working. They do not all stand out like some SWs in other places by being half dressed, some are dressed elegantly and others dress down in tight jeans and a blouse, usually cropped so you can see the flesh of her midsection. . But if she is just standing around in Plaza de Los Coches after 10 pm, she is most likely working. Most other females in the plaza at that time of night are tourists and tourist are most like dressed way down, like in t-shirts, and they are usually just passing through. While I was there most of the chicas concentrated in one corner of the plaza, the one closest to the direction of LDV. If you enter in under the clock tower, it is to the right and to the farther side of the plaza, but this is by no means a rule, they can be lining the outside of the sidewalk that runs under the building, they can and do stand around the pedestal of that statue in the statue of Pedro de Heredia, they can be on the benches next to the wall, they can even be outside the wall in the area next to the street that runs into Getsemani. But here are some photos that might look somewhat like chicas in Plaza de LOS coaches. I do not know if you have access to photos though so just remember if they are wearing tight clothing, of even an elegant dress and they are standing around waiting, they are waiting for you - actually your money but they have to fuck you first.
There is also eye contact. If you make eye contact with a hooker then the eye contact you get back is different than say a tourist , if you make eye contact long enough the hooker is going to lock eyes with you and wait for you to approach her. You have nothing to lose by walking up to any chica in that plaza (that is dressed to look attractive and is standing around, or even sitting on the benches) and saying to her "Estas Trabajando?" (ess-toss tra-bva-hondo is the best phonetics I can come up with), if you don't know any spanish that means "Are you working?"

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396024]I arrived in Cartagena today. Went to clock tower a few times to see what's there. What are those party buses? Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?[/QUOTE]I went to clock tower and agreed on 300 for anal. Went back to my apartment with the girl. Long story short, she demanded payment upfront and when I went to my pocket, the equivalent of $130 USD was missing. ***** stole my money and there was nothing I could do about it.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396024]I arrived in Cartagena today. Went to clock tower a few times to see what's there. What are those party buses? Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?[/QUOTE]I see you do not have PM so if you need directions to LDV or Space it is simple. Walk into the plaza de LOS coches through the passage under the clock tower, veer diagonally to the right and go to the back (as in opposite the side you came in) right corner of the plaza and take the road that leads into the plaza perpendicular, not the one that leads into the plaza and continues parallel to the wall, you will be turning to your left on Calle 34 (Calle Portocarrero) , go one block and turn right on Carrera 6 (Calle Colegio) , then continue a ways until you cross the next street and LDV and Space are the second building on the right.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396024] Also, how do you know if a girl is "working" so you can approach her?[/QUOTE]Amazing question from someone who writes on ISG. If you really need to ask this question, I would say you are not ready to enter the field yet.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396096]I went to clock tower and agreed on 300 for anal. Went back to my apartment with the girl. Long story short, she demanded payment upfront and when I went to my pocket, the equivalent of $130 USD was missing. ***** stole my money and there was nothing I could do about it.[/QUOTE]Q.e.d. ([I]quod erat demonstrandum[/I]).

(Sorry to hear that. Such bad things happened to everyone, even the most experienced ones, but reading those two posts immediately one after the other really sounded solid empirical evidence).

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396096]I went to clock tower and agreed on 300 for anal. Went back to my apartment with the girl. Long story short, she demanded payment upfront and when I went to my pocket, the equivalent of $130 USD was missing. ***** stole my money and there was nothing I could do about it.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if I am reading this right because of the asterisks but if you automatically are thinking the chica took your money you are in for a bad experience, I am certainly not saying she did not although I cannot remember the last post where someone said a chica ripped them off, I know it has happened. I take precautions. I also take precautions in case of pickpockets, same precautions I take anywhere in the world. I carry my wallet in one front hip pocket and my phone and passport in the other front hip pocket. In europe when visiting crowded tourist areas I sometimes even carry a dummy wallet in my back pocket with a note inside that says "fuck you" in the local Romani dialect but, alas, even that has never been taken. My buddy had his wallet lifted in Paris, there is a metro station called Abbesses that when you come out of the station you have to climb an ungodly amount of steps, he is older and way out of shape and he was struggling physically and feel behind, he had his wallet in his back pocket of his shorts and it was even king of loose, I had told home it was like low hanging fruit.

I ask why or if you were automatically assuming it was the chica because you said she demanded that you pay upfront so I am thinking that you had not taken off your pants yet, let alone taken them off and gone to the bathroom. Standard precautions I take are to use the safe for everything that is not in my pockets and to never leave the room where my pants are, usually if I need to take a wee when the chica is there and I have already positioned my pants to where I can leave the bathroom door open and I can see, otherwise I take them with me to the bathroom.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2395958]Everyone is different, but I definitely tend to agree with you. Once you establish chemistry, everything is usually a lot smoother. Sometimes TLN means different things to different people.[/QUOTE]More the one way to skin a cat, I can maybe only think of one time a TLN wasn't great and that was in Tijuana. We all play this game our own way. For example if contracted a chick tln in Cartagena and I bust 4 nuts for 400 k to me that's 100 k a nut well under the going rate at clock tower right? And I got her out of LDV. To me it was worth it. Different strokes for different folks. I like the company to, then we I get horny I whip it out and bang her. It's not a contract in ink if the date is going bad pay her to leave cut your losses. I'm with Mr. Ent I think it depends on who you are, if you decent looking and fun why wouldn't she want to party with you and fuck, and if that's the case why would she have a bad attitude.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2396339]More the one way to skin a cat, I can maybe only think of one time a TLN wasn't great and that was in Tijuana. [/QUOTE]LOL. I'm about to get on the trolley heading to Tijuana now. The TLNs that I have had over the last 20 years that sucked, I could count on one hand. And I would have to think hard to come up with them.

That being said, there are different types of TLNs. My primary type would be the disco. In some hooker disco and she goes back to the room to stay with me all night. That is like an automatic LT because it is already 2, 3, 4, or 5 am. Fuck, go to sleep, wake up and fuck again.

Another type is like where I live in Thailand I may be at a restaurant or massage parlor and meet a chick that works there and she comes over when she gets off work that night and stays.

Very rarely have I met a SW or some girl off the internet and said come stay with me all night. The instances that I do it are when it would be about the same price as short time anyway so there is no loss. But if you are talking about giving some chick $30 for short time, but doubling the long time price to $60, then that is not how I roll.

I see a lot of people saying not to do LT unless you have done ST with her first. The problem with that is I monger for the variety (along with how I mentioned my pricing for short and long being damn near the same anyway). After I have hit a chick once, then usually I am on to the next one. If I do hit the same chick again then it is weeks or months later, not the same day or week. Too busy experiencing new ones along with tons of non-pros.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2396338]I am not sure if I am reading this right because of the asterisks but if you automatically are thinking the chica took your money you are in for a bad experience, I am certainly not saying she did not although I cannot remember the last post where someone said a chica ripped them off, I know it has happened. I take precautions. I also take precautions in case of pickpockets, same precautions I take anywhere in the world. I carry my wallet in one front hip pocket and my phone and passport in the other front hip pocket. In europe when visiting crowded tourist areas I sometimes even carry a dummy wallet in my back pocket with a note inside that says "fuck you" in the local Romani dialect but, alas, even that has never been taken. My buddy had his wallet lifted in Paris, there is a metro station called Abbesses that when you come out of the station you have to climb an ungodly amount of steps, he is older and way out of shape and he was struggling physically and feel behind, he had his wallet in his back pocket of his shorts and it was even king of loose, I had told home it was like low hanging fruit.

I ask why or if you were automatically assuming it was the chica because you said she demanded that you pay upfront so I am thinking that you had not taken off your pants yet, let alone taken them off and gone to the bathroom. Standard precautions I take are to use the safe for everything that is not in my pockets and to never leave the room where my pants are, usually if I need to take a wee when the chica is there and I have already positioned my pants to where I can leave the bathroom door open and I can see, otherwise I take them with me to the bathroom.[/QUOTE]I know the chica took my money because I checked my pocket as I entered the apartment and the money was there. From them on, she was the only person in my presence. Also, there was a condom wrapper in the bathroom, but she and I did not engage in sex. That means she likely took the money, put it in a condom and insert it inside her.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396393]I know the chica took my money because I checked my pocket as I entered the apartment and the money was there. From them on, she was the only person in my presence. Also, there was a condom wrapper in the bathroom, but she and I did not engage in sex. That means she likely took the money, put it in a condom and insert it inside her.[/QUOTE]I am sorry that this happen to you. If I were you, I would not let it spoil my trip. Take extreme precautions, I don't believe that every chica is a thief but I behave like they are. I keep small bills for things like taxis separate from large bills and only pull out large bills when I am paying the chica. I keep everything valuable in my hip pockets. More likely to see or feel someone reaching inside them. I either keep my larger stash of money in the safe provided by AirBnb if there is no safe, well hidden. I even keep the locks on my suitcases locked inside the apartment and sometimes use that as a stash spot. I never leave the room where my valuables, wallet, phone, etc are without staying in eye view, if need be I keep all these things in my pants and take the pants as I leave the room. You have not explained how this chica went about taking your money without you seeing her, but if you think you know I wish you would share so we might all learn something.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2396415]I am sorry that this happen to you. If I were you, I would not let it spoil my trip. Take extreme precautions, I don't believe that every chica is a thief but I behave like they are. I keep small bills for things like taxis separate from large bills and only pull out large bills when I am paying the chica. I keep everything valuable in my hip pockets. More likely to see or feel someone reaching inside them. I either keep my larger stash of money in the safe provided by AirBnb if there is no safe, well hidden. I even keep the locks on my suitcases locked inside the apartment and sometimes use that as a stash spot. I never leave the room where my valuables, wallet, phone, etc are without staying in eye view, if need be I keep all these things in my pants and take the pants as I leave the room. You have not explained how this chica went about taking your money without you seeing her, but if you think you know I wish you would share so we might all learn something.[/QUOTE]I hate to say this but if you wasn't drunk and she took your money right in front of you she deserved that shit. I know they look cute and sexy but remember these are hoes treat them accordingly.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2396415]I am sorry that this happen to you. If I were you, I would not let it spoil my trip. Take extreme precautions, I don't believe that every chica is a thief but I behave like they are. I keep small bills for things like taxis separate from large bills and only pull out large bills when I am paying the chica. I keep everything valuable in my hip pockets. More likely to see or feel someone reaching inside them. I either keep my larger stash of money in the safe provided by AirBnb if there is no safe, well hidden. I even keep the locks on my suitcases locked inside the apartment and sometimes use that as a stash spot. I never leave the room where my valuables, wallet, phone, etc are without staying in eye view, if need be I keep all these things in my pants and take the pants as I leave the room. You have not explained how this chica went about taking your money without you seeing her, but if you think you know I wish you would share so we might all learn something.[/QUOTE]Everyday I take out what I intend to spend and hide the rest. On that particular night, I had six 50 mil bills in one pocket, two 20 mil bills in another pocket and two $20 USD bills in my wallet. It's definitely my fault for leaving my shorts unattended. Since most of the money in my pocket was what I intended to spend on the punt, I didn't think it was necessary to be cautious about it. Lesson learned though.

I ended up having a cute Venezuelan from tinder yesterday. Overall good experience. She said "Amor la hora cuesta 170.000 mil pesos incluye oral vaginal anal y besos caricias relaciones ilimitadas en la hora te atiendo en mi apartamento en cabrero o a domicilio adicional taxis". BJ was unimpressive. Started as BBBJ briefly then covered and she no to anal as I was about to lube her up.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396550]Everyday I take out what I intend to spend and hide the rest. On that particular night, I had six 50 mil bills in one pocket, two 20 mil bills in another pocket and two $20 USD bills in my wallet. It's definitely my fault for leaving my shorts unattended. Since most of the money in my pocket was what I intended to spend on the punt, I didn't think it was necessary to be cautious about it. Lesson learned though.

I ended up having a cute Venezuelan from tinder yesterday. Overall good experience. She said "Amor la hora cuesta 170.000 mil pesos incluye oral vaginal anal y besos caricias relaciones ilimitadas en la hora te atiendo en mi apartamento en cabrero o a domicilio adicional taxis". BJ was unimpressive. Started as BBBJ briefly then covered and she no to anal as I was about to lube her up.[/QUOTE]Everyday is a chance to learn. Unfortunately, some of the lessons are painful. You've already learned "don't leave your valuables alone with a chica. " You've also learned "what's offered online is no guarantee of what you'll receive. "

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396550]
I ended up having a cute Venezuelan from tinder yesterday. Overall good experience. She said "Amor la hora cuesta 170.000 mil pesos incluye oral vaginal anal y besos caricias relaciones ilimitadas en la hora te atiendo en mi apartamento en cabrero o a domicilio adicional taxis". BJ was unimpressive. Started as BBBJ briefly then covered and she no to anal as I was about to lube her up.[/QUOTE]Ads on tinder and websites tend to be copy and pasted by her handler or boyfriend (or whoever setup tinder for her). Best to meet face to face in the old city at night and get to know the person you are about to fuck.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2396550] It's definitely my fault for leaving my shorts unattended. ... Lesson learned though.

[/QUOTE]No it is not your "fault", it's still her fault, lets not go all victim blaming LOL, it's just a spike on the learning curve for you.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2390704]Hola all,

I will be in Cartagena right after Christmas from Dec 26-30. It will be my first time and am looking for a chica friendly hotel, apartment, or Airbnd near the clock tower. Any recommendations? Also looking for a wingman if anyone wants to hang. I usually go to the Del Rey in San Jose CR but decided to check out Colombia since I've heard so many good things about it. TIA.[/QUOTE]I am visiting Jan 14-19. Will be rolling solo and it would be cool to have a wing man while there. Let me know if you're in town that time and we can hang out and check out town together.

Also, any chica friendly AirBnb recommendations is appreciated.

[QUOTE=GothamLife;2397293]I am visiting Jan 14-19. Will be rolling solo and it would be cool to have a wing man while there. Let me know if you're in town that time and we can hang out and check out town together.

Also, any chica friendly AirBnb recommendations is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Best way to choose an Airbnb is to ask the host if outside guests are allowed after determining that it fits your budget and location requirement.

[QUOTE=GothamLife;2397293]I am visiting Jan 14-19. Will be rolling solo and it would be cool to have a wing man while there. Let me know if you're in town that time and we can hang out and check out town together.

Also, any chica friendly AirBnb recommendations is appreciated.[/QUOTE]First step in searching for an apartment is to take a look in the thread called Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments.

[QUOTE=Fsidle;2397325]Best way to choose an Airbnb is to ask the host if outside guests are allowed after determining that it fits your budget and location requirement.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Fsidle. You too Mojo. Beers on me.

Anybody have experience with short term love motels to bring girls to in cartagena?

I see Las Velas de Augustine 18 k and hotel porvenir 40 k for 2 hrs; any experience with either of these or does anybody know of any other options?

I have a few on this Map:

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1EljA0WD88l80-NTzK9Bh7unYVeY&ll=10.413368067267694%2C-75.56923837292243&z=13[/URL]

I can't locate yours exactly.

[QUOTE=SallySally;2397847]Anybody have experience with short term love motels to bring girls to in cartagena?

I see Las Velas de Augustine 18 k and hotel porvenir 40 k for 2 hrs; any experience with either of these or does anybody know of any other options?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SallySally;2397847]Anybody have experience with short term love motels to bring girls to in cartagena?

I see Las Velas de Augustine 18 k and hotel porvenir 40 k for 2 hrs; any experience with either of these or does anybody know of any other options?[/QUOTE]Don't worry about finding a Love Motel. The girls know them all, and just go with that.

I've since moved on to Barranquilla and now Medellin.

[QUOTE=GothamLife;2397784]Thanks, Fsidle. You too Mojo. Beers on me.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

New to the site and fairly new to the hobby. Been going to Cuba (its muy bueno) and HK Club (live in SD) for the last 2 years or so. I'm going to Cartagena 1/21-1/29. Have learned a lot of very useful stuff from the crew here. A question: when not having hot Latina sex or looking for it, what does anybody recommend for daytime tourist type activities. I enjoy the beach and ocean and especially want to do some snorkeling. Also what's the best way to get cash there? Anybody else going to be there then?

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2398575]Hi guys,

New to the site and fairly new to the hobby. Been going to Cuba (its muy bueno) and HK Club (live in SD) for the last 2 years or so. I'm going to Cartagena 1/21-1/29. Have learned a lot of very useful stuff from the crew here. A question: when not having hot Latina sex or looking for it, what does anybody recommend for daytime tourist type activities. I enjoy the beach and ocean and especially want to do some snorkeling. Also what's the best way to get cash there? Anybody else going to be there then?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3973-Cartagena-FAQ[/URL]

Click on the Cartagena FAQ link above and will answer most of your questions.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2398575]Hi guys,

New to the site and fairly new to the hobby. Been going to Cuba (its muy bueno) and HK Club (live in SD) for the last 2 years or so. I'm going to Cartagena 1/21-1/29. Have learned a lot of very useful stuff from the crew here. A question: when not having hot Latina sex or looking for it, what does anybody recommend for daytime tourist type activities. I enjoy the beach and ocean and especially want to do some snorkeling. Also what's the best way to get cash there? Anybody else going to be there then?[/QUOTE]What you want to do about the snorkeling thing is look for day boat trips out to Rosario islands or somewhere like that, not going to mention other web sites because that is taboo on here but there are websites with trip advise, and if you simply do a web search on a search engine "snorkeling cartagena Colombia" you can find gobs of tour companies.

Other than that do not forget that Playa Hollywood is where you can see the prepagos walking around in bikinis, and then if you get an itch you can take one to your apartment, daytime rates are usually lower than nights.

Most people just get cash from an ATM. Always make sure your bank is alerted to your travel. Take two ATM cards if you have them. I have had my ATM card shut down by my bank once when I used it in Colombia, I think that they are better now if you alert them first.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2398655]What you want to do about the snorkeling thing is look for day boat trips out to Rosario islands or somewhere like that, not going to mention other web sites because that is taboo on here but there are websites with trip advise, and if you simply do a web search on a search engine "snorkeling cartagena Colombia" you can find gobs of tour companies.

Other than that do not forget that Playa Hollywood is where you can see the prepagos walking around in bikinis, and then if you get an itch you can take one to your apartment, daytime rates are usually lower than nights.

Most people just get cash from an ATM. Always make sure your bank is alerted to your travel. Take two ATM cards if you have them. I have had my ATM card shut down by my bank once when I used it in Colombia, I think that they are better now if you alert them first.[/QUOTE]Great I'm staying in one of those new towers on the beach right next to Hollywood! Got it cleared with the manager that guests are allowed but they need to sign in with ID and get out by 4 am which is fine by me.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2398575]Hi guys,

New to the site and fairly new to the hobby. Been going to Cuba (its muy bueno) and HK Club (live in SD) for the last 2 years or so. I'm going to Cartagena 1/21-1/29. Have learned a lot of very useful stuff from the crew here. A question: when not having hot Latina sex or looking for it, what does anybody recommend for daytime tourist type activities. I enjoy the beach and ocean and especially want to do some snorkeling. Also what's the best way to get cash there? Anybody else going to be there then?[/QUOTE]Check out TripAdvisor.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2260739]Tu estas abogada translates to "you are at lawyer" which makes you sound like a complete idiot. Estar is also used as a verb to establish a location. "Eres abogada?" That is how you would ask if she is a lawyer.[/QUOTE]Here is a good explanation of the differences.

[URL]https://www.spanishdict.com/answers/141115/what-is-the-difference-between-eres-and-estas[/URL]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2398684]Check out TripAdvisor.[/QUOTE]There are places to change cash everywhere.

Hey friends,

Where do you all go to find longer term leases for Bocagrande or El Centro apartments?

Thanks.

I answer a PM.

This goes for all.

When I was there a few years ago, where I stayed was a good spot.

Times have changed.

Being near the clock tower is most likely the best.

My buddy picked a few from there.

But, at that time Christmas time was not good.

The chicas go stay with family and or their kids.

Now, with Venezuela in turmoil, it might good.

I liked Cartagena, but it was too expensive for pussy. The rest of the country is half the price.

It was hard to find in the day time, it is all night time city, most of the better clubs are not close each other and in the city.

Good luck.

[B][I]Apartments / Condos[/B][ / I].

1. Paul Juan Real Estate. Rates: _ [URL]http://cartagenarealty.com/mapa/apartamento601_ventura.html[/URL] Juan Ventura Apartments, Etc: [URL]https://ifoundthechicas.com/colombia-hotel-and-apartment-rentals/172/the-juan-ventura-apartments-in-cartagena/6527/[/URL].

2. [URL]https://rentalo.com/7230/apartmentsin.html[/URL].

3. [URL]https://loveme.com/apartment/cartagena-apartments/[/URL].

4. [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/s/El-Laguito--Cartagena--Colombia/all[/URL].

5. [URL]https://www.booking.com/apartments/city/co/cartagena.es.html?aid=357029;label=yho748jc-1DCAMY9gMoMjjmA0gzWANoiQKIAQGYAQq4ARfIARTYAQPoAQGIAgGoAgO4Aoefqu8FwAIB;sid=7aba2394acef7e8b34d34eabb4e61654;keep_landing=1&[/URL].

6. [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/VacationRentals-g297476-Reviews-Cartagena_Cartagena_District_Bolivar_Department-Vacation_Rentals.html[/URL].

7. [URL]https://www.flipkey.com/book/cartagena/222744195/[/URL].

8. [URL]https://colombiarents.com/en/cartagena-walled-city-apartment/[/URL].

9. [URL]https://www.longtermlettings.com/find/rentals/Colombia/Bolivar/Cartagena/[/URL].

10. [URL]https://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/south-america/colombia/cartagena[/URL].

11. [URL]https://www.hometogo.com/search/53dec1d616247?adword=bing%2Fus%2Fkwd-83219401115675%3Aloc-4084%2Fct%3Ds%3Bd%3Da%3Btc%3DUS%3Bln%3Den%3Bdc%3DCO%3Bot%3DJRen%3Bmt%3Dbm%3Bcid%3Dd625f24953a81afa%2Fco%2Fn-a%2F53dec1d616247%2F83219319409630%2F%2Brentals%20%2Bcartagena&hl=en_US&mktasp=acid%3D136005180%3Bcpid%3D331538193%3Bagid%3D1331508763256097%3Badid%3D83219319409630%3Bkwid%3Dkwd-83219401115675%3Aloc-4084%3Bdvce%3Dc%3B&msclkid=4ea7827bad3b1b42c085df913cb8f76c&utm_campaign=ct%3Ds%3B%20d%3Da%3B%20tc%3DUS%3B%20ln%3Den%3B%20dc%3DCO%3B%20ot%3DJRen%3B%20mt%3Dbm%3B%20cid%3Dd625f24953a81afa&utm_content=pt%3DBolivar%3B%20ll%3DCartagena%3B%20lid%3D53dec1d616247%3B%20aid%3Df6a7ef160be04463&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_term=%2Brentals%20%2Bcartagena[/URL].

12. [URL]http://www.cartagenaapartments.net[/URL] Rates: US $80-140.

13. [URL]http://www.cartagenacondos.com/[/URL] Rates: 4 Day Min. US $275+.

14. Cartagena's Finest Rentals. Mery. Rates: _ Tel: 011-57-5-655-0384.

15. Edificio Playa Mar in Laguito. Rates: _ $50. Owner: Larry. Telephone: 311-686-7506.

16. [URL]http://www.cartagenainfo.com/alojamientos/alojamientos.php?categoria=ES&lang=ENG[/URL].

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2399646]Hey friends,

Where do you all go to find longer term leases for Bocagrande or El Centro apartments?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Now that I've been to Cartagena, Baranquilla, Medellin and Cali, I can agree that Cartagena is too expense.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2399696]I answer a PM.

This goes for all.

When I was there a few years ago, where I stayed was a good spot.

Times have changed.

Being near the clock tower is most likely the best.

My buddy picked a few from there.

But, at that time Christmas time was not good..[/QUOTE]

Clock tower square.

The square was not as crowded with chicas as in past visits even at prime time from 11 pm to 3 am. We saw groups of cops, perhaps checking for undocumented Venezuelans, that may have something to do with it. The street leading from clock tower square to LDV had plenty of chicas walking up and down. On the street we were quoted 150,000 to 200,000 COP by a couple of chicas.

La Dolce Vita (LDV) Carrera 6 #35-18.

Freelance bar. We were impressed by quantity and quality of girls all week long. I would estimate 50 to 100 chicas. Early in the week there were fewer guys, and by Friday it was closer to 50/50. Many chicas are opening with 150 US $ for one hour, which seems to be the current union rate or at least opening offer in LDV. Some ask as much as 300 US $. Some will take less but 200,000 COP seemed to be the minimum.

Space Carrera 6 # 35-20?

Next door to LDV and up the stairs is Space disco. Fewer girls than LDV early in the week, but also packed with chicas by Thursday and Friday. Prices here seem highly variable, similar to LDV.

Isis Carrera 6 #35-73.

One block further after LDV and Space is Isis strip club. This is a small place, and early in the week we saw only about 10 girls working there. They were asking 180,000 COP for a private room lap dance, and a 400,000 COP combination bar fine and fee for girl to come to your place, for an hour (The stage show was very intermittent. One or two dancers per hour get on stage and do a 2-song strip show. Quality was not that impressive. Not a good value.

Pleyclub Diagonal 21 (Avenida El Bosque) #48-08.

Although google maps says it is permanently closed I can report it is definitely open as of October. This strip club is about a 20-minute cab ride from clock tower in the Bosque neighborhood along the harbor. (we paid 25 K pesos although I see on the official rate sheet to Bosque from Centro should be 8700, perhaps 10 K with small tip) It's like a smaller version of Luna Lunera in Medellin, with about 15 tables and a small stage. The chicas apparently live there. Prices were 400,000 COP for a half-hour session on site or 700,000 COP for 4 hours off-site. Crazy prices. About 15 mostly very attractive girls from all over Colombia. Prices were too high for us.

El Paraiso del Marino Calle 10 no. 56 be-51 (Nuevo Campestre neighborhood).

I was handed a card for this new strip club while outside of LDV. Cab driver confirmed it was new and open, said it was mostly Venezuelans. We did not go there. The card said there was a cowgirl show and a lesbian show.

Tinder.

Several chicas we met at Dolce Vita or in the square mentioned that they work Tinder, so I checked it out. Sure enough when you see a profile with some sexy photos and get a match send them an "hola," and most will message you with their hourly rate. This seemed a fruitful way to get girls during the day, along with the escort web sites like photoprepagos and numbers collected from chicas at night. Two Tinder girls offered me 170,000 COP and 250,000 COP. One showed up and turned out fine.

Thanks for the updates, But this is not new:

[B]EL PARAISO DEL MARINO[/B]

Calle 10 (Diagonal 28) #56B 51. This strip club is about 25 minutes by car. 5-10 Chicas. Prices: 60 k Room Fee, 200 k 30 min. , _k 60 min. , exit fee 130 k, Chica 200 k. Tel: 57 5 657-1922. Hours: 24. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Paraiso-del-Marino/129744393813339[/URL] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/EL-PARAISO-DEL-MARINO-CLUB-74080148490/[/URL].

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;2399987]Clock tower square.

The square was not as crowded with chicas as in past visits even at prime time from 11 pm to 3 am. We saw groups of cops, perhaps checking for undocumented Venezuelans, that may have something to do with it. The street leading from clock tower square to LDV had plenty of chicas walking up and down. On the street we were quoted 150,000 to 200,000 COP by a couple of chicas.

La Dolce Vita (LDV) Carrera 6 #35-18.

Freelance bar. We were impressed by quantity and quality of girls all week long. I would estimate 50 to 100 chicas. Early in the week there were fewer guys, and by Friday it was closer to 50/50. Many chicas are opening with 150 US $ for one hour, which seems to be the current union rate or at least opening offer in LDV. Some ask as much as 300 US $. Some will take less but 200,000 COP seemed to be the minimum.

Space Carrera 6 # 35-20?

Next door to LDV and up the stairs is Space disco. Fewer girls than LDV early in the week, but also packed with chicas by Thursday and Friday. Prices here seem highly variable, similar to LDV.

Isis Carrera 6 #35-73.

One block further after LDV and Space is Isis strip club. This is a small place, and early in the week we saw only about 10 girls working there. They were asking 180,000 COP for a private room lap dance, and a 400,000 COP combination bar fine and fee for girl to come to your place, for an hour (The stage show was very intermittent. One or two dancers per hour get on stage and do a 2-song strip show. Quality was not that impressive. Not a good value.

Pleyclub Diagonal 21 (Avenida El Bosque) #48-08.

Although google maps says it is permanently closed I can report it is definitely open as of October. This strip club is about a 20-minute cab ride from clock tower in the Bosque neighborhood along the harbor. (we paid 25 K pesos although I see on the official rate sheet to Bosque from Centro should be 8700, perhaps 10 K with small tip) It's like a smaller version of Luna Lunera in Medellin, with about 15 tables and a small stage. The chicas apparently live there. Prices were 400,000 COP for a half-hour session on site or 700,000 COP for 4 hours off-site. Crazy prices. About 15 mostly very attractive girls from all over Colombia. Prices were too high for us.

El Paraiso del Marino Calle 10 no. 56 be-51 (Nuevo Campestre neighborhood).

I was handed a card for this new strip club while outside of LDV. Cab driver confirmed it was new and open, said it was mostly Venezuelans. We did not go there. The card said there was a cowgirl show and a lesbian show.

Tinder.

Several chicas we met at Dolce Vita or in the square mentioned that they work Tinder, so I checked it out. Sure enough when you see a profile with some sexy photos and get a match send them an "hola," and most will message you with their hourly rate. This seemed a fruitful way to get girls during the day, along with the escort web sites like photoprepagos and numbers collected from chicas at night. Two Tinder girls offered me 170,000 COP and 250,000 COP. One showed up and turned out fine.[/QUOTE]

Thanks buddy. For me it is new and very good news. Looking forward to my time there in 3 weeks.

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;2399987]Clock tower square.

The square was not as crowded with chicas as in past visits even at prime time from 11 pm to 3 am. We saw groups of cops, perhaps checking for undocumented Venezuelans, that may have something to do with it. The street leading from clock tower square to LDV had plenty of chicas walking up and down. On the street we were quoted 150,000 to 200,000 COP by a couple of chicas.

La Dolce Vita (LDV) Carrera 6 #35-18.

Freelance bar. We were impressed by quantity and quality of girls all week long. I would estimate 50 to 100 chicas. Early in the week there were fewer guys, and by Friday it was closer to 50/50. Many chicas are opening with 150 US $ for one hour, which seems to be the current union rate or at least opening offer in LDV. Some ask as much as 300 US $. Some will take less but 200,000 COP seemed to be the minimum.

Space Carrera 6 # 35-20?

Next door to LDV and up the stairs is Space disco. Fewer girls than LDV early in the week, but also packed with chicas by Thursday and Friday. Prices here seem highly variable, similar to LDV.

Isis Carrera 6 #35-73..[/QUOTE]

Back in the matrix and missing Colombia already, I was there from 11/18 -11/25 I only seen a few girls bcuz was looking forward to MDE just wanted the beach vibe but I left LDV with a cutie from Bogata she wasn't a model but nice looking and good pussy quoted 500 k I countered with 400 k tln. By luck as I see it she actually stayed in the same building I was so she stayed with me until like noon. I saw her on my last night and gave her the same. Had a morena venezolana also for same 400 k tln I met off tinder. And she hung out quite a bit, even cooked one night. And an older Venezuelan I gave 250 k for 2 hours oral natural for 3 pops. I'm glad I didn't run into any of them crazy broads asking for $150 an hour.

I background checked Cartagena on the web, (ie I typed in Cartagena prostitution in StartPage) and it looks a lot like there was some kind of clean up late 2018.

Has all that official activity died down. Or are the authorities in the form of the cops still checking everything in a skirt and a pulse?

That could explain quite a bit of the conflicting messages (lots of girls\fewer girls etc clock tower not so busy etc).

I was hoping to avoid the Cuba style shuffle where you have to avoid being seen with the chica for fear of uniformed interference.

I'm wondering if I should take my business to Medellin.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2400684]I background checked Cartagena on the web, (ie I typed in Cartagena prostitution in StartPage) and it looks a lot like there was some kind of clean up late 2018.

Has all that official activity died down. Or are the authorities in the form of the cops still checking everything in a skirt and a pulse?

That could explain quite a bit of the conflicting messages (lots of girls\fewer girls etc clock tower not so busy etc).

I was hoping to avoid the Cuba style shuffle where you have to avoid being seen with the chica for fear of uniformed interference.

I'm wondering if I should take my business to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Maybe on the building regulation and hotels on guest. It was my first time but between clock tower, LDV, Space, Tinder, plenty of working girls.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2400684]I background checked Cartagena on the web, (ie I typed in Cartagena prostitution in StartPage) and it looks a lot like there was some kind of clean up late 2018.
[/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal in Colombia, what the sting operation was about in 2018 was a result of illegal activity. These kind of idiots could ruin things for everyone who obeys the present rules but as of now, prostitution continues to be legal and the police are not generally harassing one who is conducting themselves legally.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2400541]Back in the matrix and missing Colombia already, I was there from 11/18 -11/25 I only seen a few girls bcuz was looking forward to MDE just wanted the beach vibe but I left LDV with a cutie from Bogata she wasn't a model but nice looking and good pussy quoted 500 k I countered with 400 k tln. By luck as I see it she actually stayed in the same building I was so she stayed with me until like noon. I saw her on my last night and gave her the same. Had a morena venezolana also for same 400 k tln I met off tinder. And she hung out quite a bit, even cooked one night. And an older Venezuelan I gave 250 k for 2 hours oral natural for 3 pops. I'm glad I didn't run into any of them crazy broads asking for $150 an hour.[/QUOTE]You're being ripped off if you're paying over 200 k to be honest. I was there in September and Venezuelans were going for as little as 100 k. Good looking ones too.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2401326]You're being ripped off if you're paying over 200 k to be honest. I was there in September and Venezuelans were going for as little as 100 k. Good looking ones too.[/QUOTE]Thanks, next time I'll counter with 80 mil see how that works. I didn't do a lot of hunting like I said I was saving most of it for MDE but the one top notch I talked to on Tinder off top said 300 mil asked her 2 polvos she says if you finish quickly, I never wrote back. You a super member so I'll take you advice next time a report back how it goes.

[QUOTE=BMo814;2401719]Thanks, next time I'll counter with 80 mil see how that works. I didn't do a lot of hunting like I said I was saving most of it for MDE but the one top notch I talked to on Tinder off top said 300 mil asked her 2 polvos she says if you finish quickly, I never wrote back. You a super member so I'll take you advice next time a report back how it goes.[/QUOTE]80 for Cartagena is low. The thing to know about Cartagena is that most of the chicas don't get a date every night. Its worse now with all the Venezuelans. 150 k - 200 k should always get a yes unless they don't want to fuck you and are trying to either scare you off or rip you off.

Have fun in MDE.

EDIT: One more thing. If all you want is straight covered pussy sex stop negotiating. You don't need to negotiate. Just make your offer. If the first one doesn't accept it the one behind her will. If you want uncovered or something kinky then negotiating makes sense. I bareback in Cartagena these days and I still don't have to negotiate much at all.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2401752]80 for Cartagena is low. The thing to know about Cartagena is that most of the chicas don't get a date every night. Its worse now with all the Venezuelans. 150 k - 200 k should always get a yes unless they don't want to fuck you and are trying to either scare you off or rip you off.

Have fun in MDE.

EDIT: One more thing. If all you want is straight covered pussy sex stop negotiating. You don't need to negotiate. Just make your offer. If the first one doesn't accept it the one behind her will. If you want uncovered or something kinky then negotiating makes sense. I bareback in Cartagena these days and I still don't have to negotiate much at all.[/QUOTE]The quality of women in CTG has always impressed me but I never had the guts to bareback. Do you bareback BJ or FS? Because lately the cover FS has been boring me a bit.

[QUOTE=Intercoarse;2301952]Took a trip to Cartagena with 2 of my regular traveling friends for a weekend early February. All 3 of us are on the exact same page once boots are on the ground.

Friday.

We stayed in El Laguito right on Calle 1 be. A nice view of each side of the beach as our apartment had a double balcony facing either side. Inexpensive Airbnb. Hit the beach in search of action. The beach is fine. Heavy market atmosphere though. Didn't expect to be encouraged to get a massage from 30 Random Beach Hustlers in 30 min but it happened. Delicious fresh drinks though!

The beach chica selection was not plentiful but there were several scattered here and there. We eventually make selections for our appetizers of the trip. I chose one thin, petite, long hair, soft bubble butt 20 yo Morena. She was so sweet, shy and had braces which gets me every fn time. After very little negotiation, we settled on 150 k HR and took them back to the apartment. Straight to the shower then straight to business. The shy act was immediately dropped. She was a hyper little thing! Loved doggy. After finishing she wanted more for no mas dinero. She wanted to fiesta with the amiga my friend chose but her amiga was not with it. Post-nut clarity allows me to realize exactly how hungry I am. The chicks exit then we hit the streets again in search of food. A couple of previous Random Beach Hustlers find us walking along and try with every effort in their soul to get us to ride La Chiva. For those that don't know, a party bus. To each is own, but a party bus is definitely not why I am in Colombia. Unless it's a bus full of bitches. And this particular Chiva was not full of bitches..[/QUOTE]Excellent reporting Intercoarse much appreciated! I actually had a Fernanda when I went. Did she have tiny tits and braces?

[QUOTE=HankAthenia;2401814]The quality of women in CTG has always impressed me but I never had the guts to bareback. Do you bareback BJ or FS? Because lately the cover FS has been boring me a bit.[/QUOTE]FS but I limit the amount of chicas to 2-3 a year. So far I haven't caught anything.

It surprisingly takes very little convincing in CTG.

Do this right after you have bare back sex, PEE.

It works, years ago I picked up a girl and brought to my apartment. I had roommates.

I was working nights, I fucked her, peed right after, went to work.

One of my roommates fucked her and did not pee, he caught the Clap.

[QUOTE=HankAthenia;2401814]The quality of women in CTG has always impressed me but I never had the guts to bareback. Do you bareback BJ or FS? Because lately the cover FS has been boring me a bit.[/QUOTE]

There was an old joke about a local girl who found herself pregnant after a group of geologists visited the area of exploration. When she was asked if the geologist used some kind of protection fucking her, she replied, 'Yes, she covered my face!' Peeing of course helps and is a good advice but it helps to prevent STDs the same way like covering girl's ugly face helps as a contraception.

[QUOTE=RockPaper7777;2367302]When in CTG it is extremely helpful to have a smart phone with Google Translate and Google Maps set up for offline use. With these, one can easily get about, and carry on a good conversation without any Spanish knowledge. Also, the girls who you will meet all have phones, and they will often offer you their number, and it works well for all. The only problem is you have an inquisitive sweetheart or wife at home, that likes to go through your phone. No matter how scrupulous you are at deleting photos, call logs, notes, map annotations, etc. , it is easy to miss something, and that can get you into trouble. So here are my comments about obtaining and using a burner (disposable) phone that works in CTG.

First, there are many phone shops around, but a good place that is convenient is "Centro One" which is a small shopping complex that sits on a street at the eastern margin of the walled El Centro city.

Any cab drive will recognize Centro One. Within this little complex are about 5 different phone shops. Take your pick. IMHO you may be best served by a state of the art smart phone made by a recognized company (Samsung). Their cheapest Samsung, but a great phone nevertheless, costs US $100 and will function perfectly for this purpose. Ask the store clerk to configure it for you for English. Then you must take the phone and have it "recharged (recarga in Spanish).".[/QUOTE]If I get the burner phone and recharge will I also get a new number? I don't want to be using my number from the states if possible. Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=HankAthenia;2402364]If I get the burner phone and recharge will I also get a new number? I don't want to be using my number from the states if possible. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Your phone number is tied to your SIM card. If you replace the SIM you get a new number. The only exception, which only applies when changing SIM cards from 2 companies in the same country, is if you request to keep your old number. For example, changing from Verizon to T-Mobile, you can either get a new number or keep the old one.

Changing from Verizon to Claro, that's not an option.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2402083] I fucked her, peed right after, went to work.
One of my roommates fucked her and did not pee, he caught the Clap.[/QUOTE]Did he catch the clap from her or afterwards from another woman?

Are 2 people a significantly large enough sample to draw statistical conclusions for everyone?

Did you roommate do anything different, like also fail to wash his hands twice, or turn around? In Haiti they still believe in Voodoo, and some weird rituals can make the difference in outcomes.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2402083]Do this right after you have bare back sex, PEE.

It works, years ago I picked up a girl and brought to my apartment. I had roommates.

I was working nights, I fucked her, peed right after, went to work.

One of my roommates fucked her and did not pee, he caught the Clap.[/QUOTE]Guys,

I judge no one, but if your looking for bare back anything why not look into the PREP, a daily pill which provides about 95% from becoming HIV +.

This being said I just got my blood test results today and I am clean of HIV and STD's and, knock on wood, hope to stay this way.

The Tall Man.

Anyone gone to Cartagena during Easter time? I'm thinking about going the Friday before Easter Sunday and staying about a week (so well after Easter as well). There are some pretty good flight deals which I'the like to take advantage of.

At the same time, I don't really want to go if the first 2-3 days are going to be completely dead there with all the chicas at home with their families and festivities and all that.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2402735]Anyone gone to Cartagena during Easter time? I'm thinking about going the Friday before Easter Sunday and staying about a week (so well after Easter as well). There are some pretty good flight deals which I'the like to take advantage of.

At the same time, I don't really want to go if the first 2-3 days are going to be completely dead there with all the chicas at home with their families and festivities and all that.[/QUOTE]That is not a good time to go there. Most girls will be home with their family's. Of course there will be some Veny's who can't afford to keep crossing the border to go home, and back.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2402747]That is not a good time to go there. Most girls will be home with their family's. Of course there will be some Veny's who can't afford to keep crossing the border to go home, and back.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Till when is it a bad time though? After Easter Sunday? Or for even a week or two afterwards?

I was thinking I could maybe do some tourist stuff the first couple days there if it's going to be dead as long as it picks up after Sunday.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2402768]Thanks. Till when is it a bad time though? After Easter Sunday? Or for even a week or two afterwards?

I was thinking I could maybe do some tourist stuff the first couple days there if it's going to be dead as long as it picks up after Sunday.[/QUOTE]Don't go to Cartagena anytime after Easter. It empties out.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2402777]Don't go to Cartagena anytime after Easter. It empties out.[/QUOTE]Empties out till when? May? June?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2402779]Empties out till when? May? June?[/QUOTE]Mid April this year. In Colombia you have Semana Santa which is just before Easter, then Easter hits and the holidays are over. Cartagena is dead mid April to end of May. Things start to pick up in August.

December and January are both expensive months because most Latinos take time off then. Avoid holidays, festivals, etc. The chicas tend to go back home.

Look I'm not shitting you I went April a couple of years ago and there was one chica in the clock tower plaza after ten PM. That's how dead it was.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2402782]Mid April this year. In Colombia you have Semana Santa which is just before Easter, then Easter hits and the holidays are over. Cartagena is dead mid April to end of May. Things start to pick up in August.

December and January are both expensive months because most Latinos take time off then. Avoid holidays, festivals, etc. The chicas tend to go back home.

Look I'm not shitting you I went April a couple of years ago and there was one chica in the clock tower plaza after ten PM. That's how dead it was.[/QUOTE]When you say expensive in January, how expensive will they get? Planning to be there during this time frame.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2402783]When you say expensive in January, how expensive will they get? Planning to be there during this time frame.[/QUOTE]Your going to find out. Honestly, most places kept trying to charge prime rates until after Easter but if you push them they will drop their prices starting end of February.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2402782]Mid April this year. In Colombia you have Semana Santa which is just before Easter, then Easter hits and the holidays are over. Cartagena is dead mid April to end of May. Things start to pick up in August.

December and January are both expensive months because most Latinos take time off then. Avoid holidays, festivals, etc. The chicas tend to go back home.

Look I'm not shitting you I went April a couple of years ago and there was one chica in the clock tower plaza after ten PM. That's how dead it was.[/QUOTE]Damn that sounds awful, thanks for the heads up.

How about late March? Any events or anything I should be aware of during that time?

Has anyone been to Eden Place Spa? Advertised online as a new spa with several kinds of services. Says its in Bocagrande area.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2402782]Mid April this year. In Colombia you have Semana Santa which is just before Easter, then Easter hits and the holidays are over. Cartagena is dead mid April to end of May. Things start to pick up in August.

December and January are both expensive months because most Latinos take time off then. Avoid holidays, festivals, etc. The chicas tend to go back home.

Look I'm not shitting you I went April a couple of years ago and there was one chica in the clock tower plaza after ten PM. That's how dead it was.[/QUOTE]Oh crap. I am planning to go in May. I will try to set up some Colombiana Cupid chicas for my maiden voyage to Cartagena. Has anyone stayed at Estelar Cartagena de Indias?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2402793]Damn that sounds awful, thanks for the heads up.

How about late March? Any events or anything I should be aware of during that time?[/QUOTE]You should be fine. Barranquilla festival happens end of February avoid that week.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2402790]Your going to find out. Honestly, most places kept trying to charge prime rates until after Easter but if you push them they will drop their prices starting end of February.[/QUOTE]I thought you were referring to the spike in the rates demanded by the chicas, no?

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2403053]I thought you were referring to the spike in the rates demanded by the chicas, no?[/QUOTE]I was there last year in February there were some 50 guys in LDV and maybe 15 chicas. It's not hard to see everything will cost more.

Then again you can go in May and still get quoted 200 USD because you made the mistake of asking how much while breathing heavily and sweating. The market place for chicas isn't efficient. It's not the NASDAQ or anything like that. Here's how to pay the price you want to pay: just make your offer. Most chicas will accept unless you smell particularly bad etc.

EDIT:

BTW if you actually want to spend big go here: http://scandallolounge.com.br/ It's in Sao Paulo, Brazil and has fine food, great whiskey, and porn star quality women you can fuck in upscale suites. Don't go spending 200 USD in Colombia on some chica in Cartagena. It's not worth it at all.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2403057]I was there last year in February there were some 50 guys in LDV and maybe 15 chicas. It's not hard to see everything will cost more.

Then again you can go in May and still get quoted 200 USD because you made the mistake of asking how much while breathing heavily and sweating. The market place for chicas isn't efficient. It's not the NASDAQ or anything like that. Here's how to pay the price you want to pay: just make your offer. Most chicas will accept unless you smell particularly bad etc.

EDIT:

BTW if you actually want to spend big go here: http://scandallolounge.com.br/ It's in Sao Paulo, Brazil and has fine food, great whiskey, and porn star quality women you can fuck in upscale suites. Don't go spending 200 USD in Colombia on some chica in Cartagena. It's not worth it at all.[/QUOTE]Good to know. Thanks for sharing. This forum may just be the next best thing to knowing the market rate info for chicas.

Also, that Sao Paolo lounge you mentioned looks promising.

How much does it cost to rent a boat for the day? Or a yacht.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2403057]I

EDIT:

BTW if you actually want to spend big go here: http://scandallolounge.com.br/ It's in Sao Paulo, Brazil and has fine food, great whiskey, and porn star quality women you can fuck in upscale suites. Don't go spending 200 USD in Colombia on some chica in Cartagena. It's not worth it at all.[/QUOTE]Is this a mansion (Medellin) type place or just a lounge?

Sao Paulo is on my list of places to go next year however none of my wingmen will join me due to it being Brazil. And having never stepped foot in Brazil before, you can understand my hesitations about going alone. Something like a mansion type environment would be good for me to get my feet wet there.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2403079]Is this a mansion (Medellin) type place or just a lounge?

Sao Paulo is on my list of places to go next year however none of my wingmen will join me due to it being Brazil. And having never stepped foot in Brazil before, you can understand my hesitations about going alone. Something like a mansion type environment would be good for me to get my feet wet there.[/QUOTE]No. It is a fuck club. I don't get why your wingmen will not come. Are they wanted by the law in Brazil? I don't get your hesitations about going alone either. If I waited for someone before I went anywhere, I would just be staying home.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2403098]No. It is a fuck club. I don't get why your wingmen will not come. Are they wanted by the law in Brazil? I don't get your hesitations about going alone either. If I waited for someone before I went anywhere, I would just be staying home.[/QUOTE]I don't care about going alone to most places but Brazil just seems more shady than other places. I'm not someone that gets flashy in public nor do I go seeking for trouble (arguments, drugs etc) but still. I'the prefer to go with someone my first time then perhaps go myself afterwards once I'm at least a bit more familiar with the area.

Perhaps I'm overthinking it and Brazil may not be any more shady than Colombia.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2403070]How much does it cost to rent a boat for the day? Or a yacht.[/QUOTE]I have researched this in the past. Basically it all depends on the size of the boat, as I recall for a smallish boat that will hold half dozen for 6 hours its about $500. -$750. USD for something nice that will wow the chicas and hold 20 your talking $2,200. To $3,000. USD for 6 hours give or take.

I recall a few years back I was ready to pull the trigger on a mid sized boat for $1,700. And searched in vain to find 2 others who would partner with me (IE $600. Each x 3) but no takers.

It would be a lot of fun!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2402459]Your phone number is tied to your SIM card. If you replace the SIM you get a new number. The only exception, which only applies when changing SIM cards from 2 companies in the same country, is if you request to keep your old number. For example, changing from Verizon to T-Mobile, you can either get a new number or keep the old one.

Changing from Verizon to Claro, that's not an option.[/QUOTE]Is it possible for a foreigner to get a pay as you go sim card in CTG?

I'll bring an elderly unlocked sammy phone newly reset ideal for collecting chica numbers. And whatsapps.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2403108]I don't care about going alone to most places but Brazil just seems more shady than other places. I'm not someone that gets flashy in public nor do I go seeking for trouble (arguments, drugs etc) but still. I'the prefer to go with someone my first time then perhaps go myself afterwards once I'm at least a bit more familiar with the area.

Perhaps I'm overthinking it and Brazil may not be any more shady than Colombia.[/QUOTE]Any urban center with millions of people requires that you not act negligent. I visited Sao Paulo a couple years ago and unless you do something stupid like head to Crackolandia, just exercise ordinary care and be aware of your surroundings.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2403120]Is it possible for a foreigner to get a pay as you go sim card in CTG?

I'll bring an elderly unlocked sammy phone newly reset ideal for collecting chica numbers. And whatsapps.[/QUOTE]Essentially "pay as you go" is all a foreign tourists is going to get. I used to always buy them at the Olimpica supermarket (Bocagrande corner of Carrera 3/ Calle 6) but I am sure they are all over the place. I think that Tigo, Claro and Movistar of the big ones , unless one of these has been bought out or something. Just remember that they will want to see your passport. You can look for the logo, I am posting images.

[QUOTE=HankAthenia;2402364]If I get the burner phone and recharge will I also get a new number? I don't want to be using my number from the states if possible. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Dear Hank,

You will receive a new Colombian number when you purchase the burner phone. Just remember to get it "Recharged". It is possible that the cell phone store will not do the recharging. Again, the expression recharging has nothing to do with electricity, but rather sells you minutes of connect time, data, etc. It is very cheap compared to the US. It is also performed for you at the cash registers of most small grocery stores, gas stations, etc. You simply ask the cashier for "recharga", they tap a few keys, ask for your phone number, give them only a small amount of money, and you are good to go for a couple of weeks or more. It takes maybe two minutes. Your chica will send you pics, you can take pics of her, contact a bunch of other girls, etc. When your trip is over, throw the burner into the trash. Best of luck.

[QUOTE=HankAthenia;2402364]If I get the burner phone and recharge will I also get a new number? I don't want to be using my number from the states if possible. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]You are not saying in your post so I must ask. Are you planning to buy this phone in Colombia or before you leave. Unless you are fluent in spanish, I suggest you buy one before you leave. Yes they may be able to set it up for you in English but with some hassle, and also electronics are more expensive in Colombia. If you just need a phone to do the basics, communicate, navigate, translate, etc. Then I suggest buying an unlocked multiband phone off of Amazon or some place and then you will just need to buy a SIM when you arrive in Colombia. I say buy a multiband because then you have the most flexibility on carriers when you arrive. The GSM 850 and GSM 1900 bands are used in Colombia for cell phones. They will need to see your passport also. Depending on how far out your trip is, your cheapest option is probably ordering a phone off amazon, there are unlocked phones on there for less than $100.

Here is an article by an expat living in Colombia about cell phones, scroll down to "Using Cell Phones from Other Countries".

[URL]https://medellinguru.com/cell-phones/[/URL]

Hello all,

Contemplating making my first trip to Cartagena in March.

My mongering experience so far has been a handful of Sosua trips and one to Costa Rica. I'm a decent looking early 40's white American with minimal Spanish speaking skills, but I had a great time in both DR and CR and didn't have any issues.

From what I've gathered reading through the first couple pages here, March seems like a good time to go, and the average is 150-200 k COP / HR which seems comparable to DR so that's cool.

Is the vibe more street girls or club / bar or both? I'm good with either.

Any recommendations on chica friendly hotels or rentals and just general intel would be appreciated.

What's the plaza look like during the end of the month. Planning on going 25-29. Is it worth going?

It's both, street girls by the clock tower and club scene. I personally am not interested in Isis or Pley club and would rather party at La Dolce Vita or Space. If you're on airbnb just message your host and if you're doing a hotel, just book for 2 people.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2403841]Hello all,

Contemplating making my first trip to Cartagena in March.

My mongering experience so far has been a handful of Sosua trips and one to Costa Rica. I'm a decent looking early 40's white American with minimal Spanish speaking skills, but I had a great time in both DR and CR and didn't have any issues.

From what I've gathered reading through the first couple pages here, March seems like a good time to go, and the average is 150-200 k COP / HR which seems comparable to DR so that's cool.

Is the vibe more street girls or club / bar or both? I'm good with either.

Any recommendations on chica friendly hotels or rentals and just general intel would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HankAthenia;2402364]If I get the burner phone and recharge will I also get a new number? I don't want to be using my number from the states if possible. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]My opinion is don't buy the burner, just download google voice and use that number to setup whatsapp.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2404076]It's both, street girls by the clock tower and club scene. I personally am not interested in Isis or Pley club and would rather party at La Dolce Vita or Space. If you're on airbnb just message your host and if you're doing a hotel, just book for 2 people.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I looked at some airbnb around the clock tower area for convenience of street girls, are Old City Balcones a decent selection? I want to be centrally located for ease of bringing girls in and out.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2403841]Hello all,

Contemplating making my first trip to Cartagena in March.

My mongering experience so far has been a handful of Sosua trips and one to Costa Rica. I'm a decent looking early 40's white American with minimal Spanish speaking skills, but I had a great time in both DR and CR and didn't have any issues.

From what I've gathered reading through the first couple pages here, March seems like a good time to go, and the average is 150-200 k COP / HR which seems comparable to DR so that's cool.

Is the vibe more street girls or club / bar or both? I'm good with either.

Any recommendations on chica friendly hotels or rentals and just general intel would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I will be visiting Cartagena for the first time as well in March. We should grab a beers if you're up for it!

I've been studying this thread a bit and seems like the main club action is at a place called LVE. Other than that, the rest of it seems to be at the clock tower. Some refer to using Tinder and Facebook as well (I used this in Medellin and it worked very well) so that's an option as well.

I have a question. I see many people recommend El Laguito and Bocagrande as the locations to find accommodations. Then there are some who say they stay in Old Town somewhat close to the Tower.

If the action is mainly at the tower and LDV then shouldn't that area be where we should be staying at? Or is the reason that El Laguito and Bocogrande are more often recommended because there are more restaurants in those areas and the beach is close by so ease of access to for other things than chicas?

Apologize if it’s a stupid question.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2404282]I have a question. I see many people recommend El Laguito and Bocagrande as the locations to find accommodations. Then there are some who say they stay in Old Town somewhat close to the Tower.

If the action is mainly at the tower and LDV then shouldn't that area be where we should be staying at? Or is the reason that El Laguito and Bocogrande are more often recommended because there are more restaurants in those areas and the beach is close by so ease of access to for other things than chicas?

Apologize if its a stupid question.[/QUOTE]Either is fine. It's all a 5-10 min cab ride anyways and the cabs are super cheap. So it just depends on whether you'd rather wake up by the beach and go to the old city at night and take a cab with the girl or take a cab in the morning to the beach and back before picking up a girl. Really doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2404129]Thanks for the info. I looked at some airbnb around the clock tower area for convenience of street girls, are Old City Balcones a decent selection? I want to be centrally located for ease of bringing girls in and out.[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with that place but it's a common concern about location and I don't think people understand how close things are in Cartagena, it's all good for bringing girls in and out.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2404282] the reason that El Laguito and Bocogrande are more often recommended because there are more restaurants in those areas and the beach is close by so ease of access to for other things than chicas?[/QUOTE]LDV used to be located in Laguito. A lot of gringos bought condos in Laguito with ocean views. Now that LDV has moved to the old town and the girls all go to the Clock Tower, it seems that Laguito is not as desirable any more to monger.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2404055]What's the plaza look like during the end of the month. Planning on going 25-29. Is it worth going?[/QUOTE]I will be in Cartagena from 20-27. Shoot me a PM if you are interested in meeting up.

[QUOTE=FakeNick;2404392]LDV used to be located in Laguito. A lot of gringos bought condos in Laguito with ocean views. Now that LDV has moved to the old town and the girls all go to the Clock Tower, it seems that Laguito is not as desirable any more to monger.[/QUOTE]I always stay in Bocagrande. It's very peaceful at night and the old city is only a few minutes by cab. That whole tourist area is tiny. There's no need to pick any place other than where you want to sleep and wake up every morning. I'll take the beach over the old city because its quieter.

Any recommendations on a good bar to watch NFL games in Cartagena? Thanks.

[QUOTE=FakeNick;2404392]LDV used to be located in Laguito. A lot of gringos bought condos in Laguito with ocean views. Now that LDV has moved to the old town and the girls all go to the Clock Tower, it seems that Laguito is not as desirable any more to monger.[/QUOTE]I stay in Laguito probably as much out of habit as anything, and there are chica friendly buildings there which is a major plus. I like the apartments there that look out over the ocean, it's not as good as the view of the beach in Bocagrande, but its still an ocean view, and you can bang a chica on your balcony while enjoying the ocean view. I do miss LDV being there but Playa Hollywood has chicas during the day and it is at the end of Laguito. Once in a while you can find SWs in Laguito for 100 k. As YippieKayay stated about Bocagrande, Laguito is also much quieter, and the other tourist areas are a short taxi ride away. There is never a lack of taxis in Laguito as demonstrated by the photo I am adding to this post.

Brief report:

1. Cartagena has much less day time options than other cities in Colombia. This lead me to investigating whether or not clocktower girls are willing to spend the day with you. Now, I am a lonely guy irl and I very much so enjoy the company of a woman for the entire day. I invited 50 clocktower girls to lunch and spend the whole day together without sex, approx 25 of them agreed; just pay for the taxi and you have someone to talk to and hang out with for the whole day. Now, as for the sex part many of these girls would gladly spend the entire day with you with sex included for 100 k - 150 k, obviously you would need to negotiate down to 100 k. Most of the clocktower girls do nothing during the day, or take care of their kids, etc; essentially they have the daytime free and would be fine with making money during a time they don't. At night time, especially the venezuelans, can be negotated down to 100 k, maybe lower; I didn't try to negotiate lower than that but it's theoretically possible. Colombians are disliking the venezuelans pushing down the pricepoint at the clocktower. Also many of the clocktower girls do not work at night, but instead just stand there for several hours. They get bored doing this, so talk to them and negotiate for longer times, etc; many would be happy to get any work at all and several are beautiful girls that haven't worked in a week or more.

2. Now some economics, I think the cheapest place to find sex in Cartagena is mileroticos and online in general, with deals as low as 60 - 70 k to be found. I had a venezuelan for 100 k / HR off photoprepagos, negotiated down from 150 k. I found it interesting to see how they live, as she operates out of the apartment she lives in. 1 Bedroom 1 bath apartment in the wall rents for 600 k / month; she shares it with 3 other venezuelans, each sleeping on bunk beds, and with her fucking her clients on a sofabed in the living room. So to put it into perspective if she charges 150 k / HR, that 150 k will pay for her share of the rent for the month. She also hadn't worked in 4 days, so I was able to negotiate down; again same applies negotiate down because a lot of these girls are not working.

3. For those interested in brothels. Idk if listed on the map but there is a casa de citas in the south of Manga (I could be wrong, possibly slightly south of Manga) called LOS Angeles. Charges 150 k / HR - 250 k / HR. I don't know the exact address but local taxi drivers should know.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this property? Good location?

[URL]https://abnb.me/AvjcY2vvB2[/URL]

I've been confused by some airbnb listings as they will say something like "no prostitution laws must be followed" but isn't prostitution legal in Colombia? This particular renter said that guests are allowed but can't stay overnight so I'm assuming that's OK.

[QUOTE=SallySally;2404739]So to put it into perspective if she charges 150 k / HR, that 150 k will pay for her share of the rent for the month. She also hadn't worked in 4 days, so I was able to negotiate down; again same applies negotiate down because a lot of these girls are not working.[/QUOTE]Great report. I am never pressed to fuck a particular girl. And my thinking is always that she needs money more than I need pussy, so I always negotiate. A lot of guys tend to say it ruins the mood to negotiate, but I am like what mood? She is a hooker. But I guess they mean their fantasy or something.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404930]Great report. I am never pressed to fuck a particular girl. And my thinking is always that she needs money more than I need pussy, so I always negotiate. A lot of guys tend to say it ruins the mood to negotiate, but I am like what mood? She is a hooker. But I guess they mean their fantasy or something.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's only a hooker, there's no mood, LOL.

That must be my fantasy or something, LOL again.

Sometimes I think you make this stuff up, LOL again.

Happy Holidays. ⛄️

[QUOTE=Balboa;2404941]Yeah, she's only a hooker, there's no mood, LOL.

That must be my fantasy or something, LOL again.

Sometimes I think you make this stuff up, LOL again.

Happy Holidays.[/QUOTE]Words fail me.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2404889]Does anyone have any knowledge of this property? Good location?

[URL]https://abnb.me/AvjcY2vvB2[/URL]

I've been confused by some airbnb listings as they will say something like "no prostitution laws must be followed" but isn't prostitution legal in Colombia? This particular renter said that guests are allowed but can't stay overnight so I'm assuming that's OK.[/QUOTE]She's very clear that hookers aren't allowed. I don't see how much clearer she can be. Also that location is shit for mongering.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2404957]Words fail me.[/QUOTE]Relax man.

It's not that earth shattering.

Taking taxis both ways deeper into CTG may easily cost 50 K COP, just a note. Colombia banned Uber yesterday BTW.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2404889]Does anyone have any knowledge of this property? Good location?

[URL]https://abnb.me/AvjcY2vvB2[/URL]

I've been confused by some airbnb listings as they will say something like "no prostitution laws must be followed" but isn't prostitution legal in Colombia? This particular renter said that guests are allowed but can't stay overnight so I'm assuming that's OK.[/QUOTE]It's pretty clear in the House Rules section. It says No guests are allowed unless they are registered on reservation and no prostitution. They will prob kick you out if you violate this. Plus I have never seen a host put a limit on a / see use. If you go over 10 hours of a / see a day, they charge you $20. Pretty ridiculous. It get damn hot there and you need a / see a lot more than 10 hours a day. Do they expect you turn off a / see at night while you sleep to conserve and avoid the surcharge? I have seen a few AIr rentals there that appear to allow 'guests' but you need to read the house rules carefully to be sure. Also, sometimes these places have security looking to make an extra buck by enforcing non existent rules.

If you owned a house or apartment how would you like it to have guys bringing prostitutes over very night?

Actually that is what happened in my neighbor. All the neighbors in the Apartment complex have moved out.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2404889]Does anyone have any knowledge of this property? Good location?

[URL]https://abnb.me/AvjcY2vvB2[/URL]

I've been confused by some airbnb listings as they will say something like "no prostitution laws must be followed" but isn't prostitution legal in Colombia? This particular renter said that guests are allowed but can't stay overnight so I'm assuming that's OK.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2405075]I have seen a few AIr rentals there that appear to allow 'guests' but you need to read the house rules carefully to be sure. Also, sometimes these places have security looking to make an extra buck by enforcing non existent rules.[/QUOTE]Some of them will even post the visiting hours. You only need to ask them (you can message them). Be upfront because they will kick you out if you don't follow the rules. I started with airbnb and booking dot com but quickly got to know the real estate companies that run these rentals and now just reach out directly. They're 100% fine with me bringing chicas over.

The security in the building even give me reviews. This one time, when I was registering one chica, one of the security guards by the door kept coughing. When I looked over he gave me a thumbs up. Hilarious.

There are buildings in Bocagrande and Laguito that are practically brothels. Revolving door of chicas going in and out. Sometimes you even find chicas in the lobby staring you down because they're looking for extra work while they wait for their ride.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2405219]Some of them will even post the visiting hours. You only need to ask them (you can message them). Be upfront because they will kick you out if you don't follow the rules. I started with airbnb and booking dot com but quickly got to know the real estate companies that run these rentals and now just reach out directly. They're 100% fine with me bringing chicas over.

The security in the building even give me reviews. This one time, when I was registering one chica, one of the security guards by the door kept coughing. When I looked over he gave me a thumbs up. Hilarious.

There are buildings in Bocagrande and Laguito that are practically brothels. Revolving door of chicas going in and out. Sometimes you even find chicas in the lobby staring you down because they're looking for extra work while they wait for their ride.[/QUOTE]I guess my real question, which in part has been answered, was how would they know who we bring in and out. I should have also specified we are looking for more of a whole unit / home / townhome type of rental, so I'm thinking as it would likely be in America, once I have the keys to a private house, how do they know who goes in and out? I suppose if there's some security guard I could understand.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404930]Great report. I am never pressed to fuck a particular girl. And my thinking is always that she needs money more than I need pussy, so I always negotiate. A lot of guys tend to say it ruins the mood to negotiate, but I am like what mood? She is a hooker. But I guess they mean their fantasy or something.[/QUOTE]Quit stealing my thoughts mr e, sometimes you out-do yourself, this most certainly is one of those days.

I'm sure you hit a nerve with a "few".

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2405292]I guess my real question, which in part has been answered, was how would they know who we bring in and out. I should have also specified we are looking for more of a whole unit / home / townhome type of rental, so I'm thinking as it would likely be in America, once I have the keys to a private house, how do they know who goes in and out? I suppose if there's some security guard I could understand.[/QUOTE]In the nicer buildings everyone wears a bracelet. There are colors for visitors and registered guests. Everyone has to sign in and show ID. It's for your protection. This is why its less likely to get robbed in Cartagena by a chica. Unless her ID is fake they have her information. Additionally it's an age check.

When I went to Medellin I rented an apartment in a building with no security guards. A year later I read about a murder there in one of the apartments.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2405199]If you owned a house or apartment how would you like it to have guys bringing prostitutes over every night?[/QUOTE]Its probably better than having a vacancy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2404930]Great report. I am never pressed to fuck a particular girl. And my thinking is always that she needs money more than I need pussy, so I always negotiate. A lot of guys tend to say it ruins the mood to negotiate, but I am like what mood? She is a hooker. But I guess they mean their fantasy or something.[/QUOTE]Theres also the possibility, that some mongers have very very low self-esteem and don't want to fathom the thought that a 3rd world hooker might reject them, so lest they do anything to cause that, they just agree to anything she asks for and don't ask for anything in return, just accept whatever minimum service she throws out, if any.

So the mood they are talking about is probably theirs LOL.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2404889]
I've been confused by some airbnb listings as they will say something like "no prostitution laws must be followed" but isn't prostitution legal in Colombia? This particular renter said that guests are allowed but can't stay overnight so I'm assuming that's OK.[/QUOTE]Drinking is legal in the United States but its illegal in most places to walk through a family friendly park chugging a bottle of whiskey, smoking cigarettes is legal in the United States but you can no longer sit and smoke in most restaurants, prostitution is legal in Colombia but they do not want it in their face when they are on vacation in their apartment building.

And yes it is a bad location for mongering, good location for a family vacation, bad location for mongering. Manga is not really in the heart of the tourist area it is more a quiet residential area.

Curious where many of you do the deed with girls you pick up from the Clock Tower. Do you go to a ST hotel / motel nearby or do you take her back to your place? Or does it vary each time for each girl? Are love motels usually pretty safe and clean & somewhat sterile as well?

Reason I ask is because I assume if someone stays in El Laguito or even the very end of Bocogrande then the constant Uber / taxi drive back and forth from Clock Tower to your place can get tiring. I assume there can be pretty bad traffic since Cartagena is pretty small?

Of course chicks you pick up on the beach / tinder / facebook etc are probably better to have at your own place than a love motel but my question is in specific for the Clock Tower.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2405455]Curious where many of you do the deed with girls you pick up from the Clock Tower. Do you go to a ST hotel / motel nearby or do you take her back to your place? Or does it vary each time for each girl? Are love motels usually pretty safe and clean & somewhat sterile as well?[/QUOTE]Mostly back in an apartment in Bocagrande.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2405455]
Reason I ask is because I assume if someone stays in El Laguito or even the very end of Bocogrande then the constant Uber / taxi drive back and forth from Clock Tower to your place can get tiring. I assume there can be pretty bad traffic since Cartagena is pretty small?
[/QUOTE]At night there's not much traffic and it's ten minutes to the old city. Cartagena isn't all that small but you're not going into Cartagena. You're staying in essentially one of four areas all by the sea and full of tourists. Cartagena itself has a different vibe (no touts and vendors always harassing you for example).

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2405455]
Of course chicks you pick up on the beach / tinder / facebook etc are probably better to have at your own place than a love motel but my question is in specific for the Clock Tower.[/QUOTE]There are a few love motels even in places like Bocagrande.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2405460]Mostly back in an apartment in Bocagrande.

At night there's not much traffic and it's ten minutes to the old city. Cartagena isn't all that small but you're not going into Cartagena. You're staying in essentially one of four areas all by the sea and full of tourists. Cartagena itself has a different vibe (no touts and vendors always harassing you for example).

There are a few love motels even in places like Bocagrande.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding. How much are the love motels? And are they generally pretty safe?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2405784]Thanks for responding. How much are the love motels? And are they generally pretty safe?[/QUOTE]They are anywhere from 20 k to 50 k an hour depending on the hotel and the room you get. You can ask for the 'presidential suite' which I did once. It had a larger bed and was a bit nicer. Some of these hotels can be a bit run down. Stick to the ones in the old city (within the walls) and Bocagrande and you'll be fine. If you go to Isis, a strip joint, the chicas will take you around a corner to a love motel to bang. There are no rooms on site at that place.

This is where Latinos fuck their girlfriends and hookers. Most will live with their parents until they are married so they go to these places. They're common all over South America and a multi-billion dollar industry.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2404077]My opinion is don't buy the burner, just download google voice and use that number to setup whatsapp.[/QUOTE]I have tried twice unsuccessfully to get past WA verification. Are there any tricks to have it done? Do you get the number at home or in Colombia?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2406252]I have tried twice unsuccessfully to get past WA verification. Are there any tricks to have it done? Do you get the number at home or in Colombia?[/QUOTE]My phone has dual messenger capabilities. I signed up for the google voice and used that number for the second whatsapp that is on my phone. I happened to be in Florida when I signed up for the google voice and it gave me a list of local numbers from that city to choose from. I only add hookers to the 2nd whatsapp, so when I put them in my contacts I always put x before their names to make it easier to search and add to that whatsapp. eg. xLiliana 23 CTG.

I'm headed to Cartagena in January. This is my first trip to Colombia. The forum has been a great source of info, thanks guys. Can anybody help me out with which bank ATM's charge the lowest transaction fees to get cash?

Anyone stayed at Juan's "marin" apartments?

[URL]www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos[/URL]

What's the location\quality like? Looks pretty good in the photos with sea views.

I understand from Juan they're chica friendly, but would be good to hear from someone who's stayed there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406256]My phone has dual messenger capabilities. I signed up for the google voice and used that number for the second whatsapp that is on my phone. I happened to be in Florida when I signed up for the google voice and it gave me a list of local numbers from that city to choose from. I only add hookers to the 2nd whatsapp, so when I put them in my contacts I always put x before their names to make it easier to search and add to that whatsapp. eg. xLiliana 23 CTG.[/QUOTE]I've googled dual messenger and it seems to be a Samsung feature. I have a Moto, so I guess, I'm out of luck. Thanks though!

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2406916]Anyone stayed at Juan's "marin" apartments?

[URL]www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos[/URL]

What's the location\quality like? Looks pretty good in the photos with sea views.

I understand from Juan they're chica friendly, but would be good to hear from someone who's stayed there.[/QUOTE]I did. If you don't expect luxury, you will enjoy it. I stayed in a 2-bdrm with a direct ocean view. It's clean, fully AC'd with a large kitchen and a good balcony. The building is totally nothing to write home about, but 100% guest-friendly (IDs checked downstairs), and Juan is solid and very responsive. While I'm eyeing some more luxurious buildings for future visits, I doubt any of them can be as guest-friendly as Marinero.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2406916]Anyone stayed at Juan's "marin" apartments?

[URL]www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos[/URL]

What's the location\quality like? Looks pretty good in the photos with sea views.

I understand from Juan they're chica friendly, but would be good to hear from someone who's stayed there.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Marin and I was a little surprised by the fact that the apartment was actually a little nicer than the photos made it look, these apartments are dated looking and in the past were probably described as really nice but now they are just showing their age a little but still clean and the one I stayed had great AC, great hot water, and a washer and dryer. In the past I had stayed at Playa which is just next door, but I was surprised that from Marin there is a better view out to the open sea. The coast of Laguito faces a large island. Tierra Bomba but you still also get a view of the open sea to your left from you balcony. I have a Google Pixel phone that has "Night View" camera option but they still may not look as good posted here because they get compressed.

Like Xpartan said the building itself is not nice at all but no problem bringing in guests, and once inside the apartment I would say it is nice enough. Its certainly not luxury and not "posh" but not that bad either.

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2406916]Anyone stayed at Juan's "marin" apartments?

[URL]www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos[/URL]

What's the location\quality like? Looks pretty good in the photos with sea views.

I understand from Juan they're chica friendly, but would be good to hear from someone who's stayed there.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at Juan's apartments ("Marin") a couple of times. I recommend them. I had not problem entering the girls into the building. Nothing more to add to the Mojo Bandit and Xpartan comments.

A couple of years ago I took two girls to a motel since I had read in this forum in the buildings multiples girls were not allowed. Actually I do not know if this rule actually exist.

Anyone know where you can have a quick pop during the day in the centre? Is there no apt. With some girls you can choose from?

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2405784]Thanks for responding. How much are the love motels? And are they generally pretty safe?[/QUOTE]There is a big distinction to make between 1) "love HOTELS" in Centro, including inside the walls, Getsemani and Bocagrande, and 2) the "love MOTELS" in Crespo. I see often confusion here between "motel" and "hotel", but remember what is a "motel": a "motor hotel".

1) They are everywhere. Do not bother to find them in advance. The girl will take you there. Warning: they are for short time (what girls call "1 hour") meaning wham-bam-thankyoumadame. Go there if you are NOT looking for a girlfriend experience, but just fucking.
I believe that the main driver to go to CTG, and afford the expensive nightlife of CTG, should be pretending to have a GF for a while, even few hours on a night, and therefore I seldom patronized these cheap short time places. They cost from 15 k up to maybe 40 k-50 k (those rooms available for 5 k are a memory of 10 years ago).

2) This is a totally different story. Most famous are 3: La Jaiba, Las Dunas, La Cangreja (I have been many times to La Jaiba). I remember prices of 10 years ago, but even now a room should be from from maybe 40k up (minimum 2 hours). Definitely cheap for what is provided: a room typically includes a pole for dancing, love chair, etc. Do not neglect the jacuzzi. It's a GREAT place. Las Dunas is even better.
The taxi drives inside and leaves you at the door, in full privacy. At the gate, they do not even request an ID, or at least they did not when I was a frequent guest there, say from 5 to 10 years ago.
I would go there only if I stay in a good hotel in Centro or Bocagrande (not girl friendly by definition) instead of an apartment, and the girl is more than a simple "1 shot" experience.
Taxi should charge less than 20 k, maybe more to go back (how you go back if you reject the taxi?

P.S.: why don't you read the Cartagena List?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2406956]I stayed in Marin and I was a little surprised by the fact that the apartment was actually a little nicer than the photos made it look, these apartments are dated looking and in the past were probably described as really nice but now they are just showing their age a little but still clean and the one I stayed had great AC, great hot water, and a washer and dryer. In the past I had stayed at Playa which is just next door, but I was surprised that from Marin there is a better view out to the open sea. The coast of Laguito faces a large island. Tierra Bomba but you still also get a view of the open sea to your left from you balcony. I have a Google Pixel phone that has "Night View" camera option but they still may not look as good posted here because they get compressed.

Like Xpartan said the building itself is not nice at all but no problem bringing in guests, and once inside the apartment I would say it is nice enough. Its certainly not luxury and not "posh" but not that bad either.[/QUOTE]Just got back from staying in the Palmetto elliptic apts. Rules are no unregistered guests after 10 pm but a quiet talk with the night guard and 50 k took care of the problem. Best to arrange before you head off to the clock tower. Be aware that the owner said the building rules were all quests welcome no rules when I asked before booking. Some will tell you what you want to hear to get you to book so be aware. Have used Juan's and they are okay but are very dated and don't compare with the elliptic which was nice. Maybe someone out there has names of other buildings that are cooperative.

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2407237]Just got back from staying in the Palmetto elliptic apts. Rules are no unregistered guests after 10 pm but a quiet talk with the night guard and 50 k took care of the problem. Best to arrange before you head off to the clock tower. Be aware that the owner said the building rules were all quests welcome no rules when I asked before booking. Some will tell you what you want to hear to get you to book so be aware. Have used Juan's and they are okay but are very dated and don't compare with the elliptic which was nice. Maybe someone out there has names of other buildings that are cooperative.[/QUOTE]Palmetto Elliptic did change to this no unregistered guest after 10 pm rule recently, which is very unfortunate since this further reduces the choices of chica friendly places to stay in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2407304]Palmetto Elliptic did change to this no unregistered guest after 10 pm rule recently, which is very unfortunate since this further reduces the choices of chica friendly places to stay in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]That happened because someone did something crazy and people complained. Another reason not to post building names here or you'll just ruin them.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2406892]I'm headed to Cartagena in January. This is my first trip to Colombia. The forum has been a great source of info, thanks guys. Can anybody help me out with which bank ATM's charge the lowest transaction fees to get cash?[/QUOTE]This is a little different but one night I was looking for the best exchange rates outside of the airport and found out that my bank, Bank of America actually can get you just about any foreign currency you need at a much better rate than any of the airport kiosk. Since then I always get my foreign cash before I set foot in any country and never have to go to the ATM. I'm good at budgeting so I always end up with money at the end of my trip. I'm not sure you're interested in that or if you bank at a bank that does this, but that could be the way to go and not have to worry about going to the ATM. There are plenty around if you do. Can't remember the transaction fees though. Have fun.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2407346]That happened because someone did something crazy and people complained. Another reason not to post building names here or you'll just ruin them.[/QUOTE]You stated an obvious truth. I lost hope however. No way to convince people to stop. I just hope that "my" places will not be ruined by some asshole behaving as a barbarian.

Thanks to responders re the Marin apt.

Actually I'm not too bothered about luxury, I don't really care about gold taps or whatever the definition of luxury is.

I'm looking for safety, I don't want "walks of shame", want a good location, and "sufficient" facilities. No craaazy parties next door, no shootings or bodies in the lobby (I'm looking at you Johannesburg).

On the monger front my plan is to hit the beach daytime, buy some drinks, spread some love and take back a cash starved chica for some afternoon fun.

Later in the day, after a sound steak meal and 10 MG cialis I'll hit the square in the old town, a couple of bars and try and repeat this trick.

I need a good selection of chicas to choose from, my favorite type being early twenties, stacked, can be "curvy" (or woman shaped as I prefer to understand it) and for me a 2 hour relationship is akin to marriage. I'm not really looking for a pretend girlfriend, happy to sleep alone after the event.

In 2005 Cartagena was heaven for this. Hoping to repeat that experience.

[QUOTE=Drf1987;2407369]This is a little different but one night I was looking for the best exchange rates outside of the airport and found out that my bank, Bank of America actually can get you just about any foreign currency you need at a much better rate than any of the airport kiosk. Since then I always get my foreign cash before I set foot in any country and never have to go to the ATM. I'm good at budgeting so I always end up with money at the end of my trip. I'm not sure you're interested in that or if you bank at a bank that does this, but that could be the way to go and not have to worry about going to the ATM. There are plenty around if you do. Can't remember the transaction fees though. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Most banks offer this service. Rates vary widely. It looks like Bank of America's rate is about 8% under current rates. That's much better than airport currency exchange rates, but not as good as ATM rates with a no fee card. It's about comparable with currency exchange places located away from the airport.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2407346]That happened because someone did something crazy and people complained. Another reason not to post building names here or you'll just ruin them.[/QUOTE]I agree there are plenty of knuckleheads out there that ruin things. Don't think that putting the name out of a building described as practically a brothel is going to change things.

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2407581]I agree there are plenty of knuckleheads out there that ruin things. Don't think that putting the name out of a building described as practically a brothel is going to change things.[/QUOTE]Well there are several that allow all night guests. You just need to ask what the rules are before renting. Those rules change so I don't post building names.

It's a little bit of leg work. I did the same when I went to Medellin. No big deal.

There is no way out just to post and ask for response, it's just important to book at the right place. Have stayed in the past in MDL (Mirador Del Laguito), is it still GF? What about other Laguito buildings: Playa, Marin and Torres and others? Any suggestion and recent examples are welcome; I know it's boring but essential. Thank you.

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2407237]Just got back from staying in the Palmetto elliptic apts. Rules are no unregistered guests after 10 pm but a quiet talk with the night guard and 50 k took care of the problem. Best to arrange before you head off to the clock tower. Be aware that the owner said the building rules were all quests welcome no rules when I asked before booking. Some will tell you what you want to hear to get you to book so be aware. Have used Juan's and they are okay but are very dated and don't compare with the elliptic which was nice. Maybe someone out there has names of other buildings that are cooperative.[/QUOTE]I can easily live with 10 PM cutout -- in fact, I do prefer spending the night alone and am not crazy about having a girl overnight. The problem is, though, that the Clock Tower is my preferred way of getting laid in CTG, and it doesn't "open" that early. As such, 200 K for a girl, 50 K "propina", plus cab fares (that surely will skyrocket now that Uber's been outlawed) all add up to the already overpriced scene.

From what I've experienced in my 6 times to Cartagena, there is no truly hard and fast no guest policy for AirBnB. The doormen do not make very much money and can be easily bribed. When I stayed in a building in El Centro that my AirBnB host told me was specifically not guest friendly, I slipped each of the door men who worked there 50 k cop each, and they didn't ask to register any girl I brought back. I had chicas running in and out of a nice building for the duration of each of my stays (typically 1 month).

Long story short, build even the smallest rapport with the doorman and slip him some cash. They will gladly turn the other way.

Is Mery Salence is still in rental business? I rented from her in the past too, just can't recall what has been since.

Curious to know how the Uber ban has affected cab fares from someone who's visited after the ban went into effect.

I know some Spanish but not a fluent speaker so using Uber and having the destination already entered on the app before pick up was pretty sweet when I visited Medellin.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2407798]Curious to know how the Uber ban has affected cab fares from someone who's visited after the ban went into effect.

I know some Spanish but not a fluent speaker so using Uber and having the destination already entered on the app before pick up was pretty sweet when I visited Medellin.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure Uber being banned is going to have a significant effect on taxi rates. At least in Bogota and Medellin, taxis outnumbered Uber by a huge amount, probably at least 15 - 1. Taxi rates, once again, at least in Bogota and Medellin are set by the city, not by the drivers. Uber was also never technically legal in Colombia. Before they were operating in a gray area, not legal, not illegal. That's one of the reasons why they always insist you sit in the front.

When I had a chica pick me up at the airport in Rionegro, in July, we were immediately pulled over and she was questioned for 10 minutes because they thought she was an Uber driver.

I'd be really surprised if the cities immediately raise taxi rates by a significant amount. Of course there will always be taxistas trying to hit you with the gringo rates, but you'll probably only see a small increase.

Here's a link that contains a link to the official taxi rates. Familiarize yourself with the rates you need and bypass the drivers who are charging too much.

[URL]https://www.cartagenaexplorer.com/comprehensive-guide-to-public-transportation-in-cartagena-colombia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2407714]
Long story short, build even the smallest rapport with the doorman and slip him some cash. They will gladly turn the other way.[/QUOTE]What happens when they have a male doorman but a female receptionist registering people and enforcing the rules? Yes, I've had a couple of run ins with the "Nurse Ratchet" types. Luckily the building had visitor rules that didn't stop the chica from being registered. The receptionist just gave the chica a colonoscopy when checking her ID.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2407815]I'm not sure Uber being banned is going to have a significant effect on taxi rates. At least in Bogota and Medellin, taxis outnumbered Uber by a huge amount, probably at least 15 - 1. Taxi rates, once again, at least in Bogota and Medellin are set by the city, not by the drivers. Uber was also never technically legal in Colombia. Before they were operating in a gray area, not legal, not illegal. That's one of the reasons why they always insist you sit in the front.

When I had a chica pick me up at the airport in Rionegro, in July, we were immediately pulled over and she was questioned for 10 minutes because they thought she was an Uber driver.

I'd be really surprised if the cities immediately raise taxi rates by a significant amount. Of course there will always be taxistas trying to hit you with the gringo rates, but you'll probably only see a small increase.

Here's a link that contains a link to the official taxi rates. Familiarize yourself with the rates you need and bypass the drivers who are charging too much.

[URL]https://www.cartagenaexplorer.com/comprehensive-guide-to-public-transportation-in-cartagena-colombia/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. This may be a silly question but do you know if there are legitimate apps that can be used for taxis in Colombia in a similar manner as Uber was used?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2407881]Thanks. This may be a silly question but do you know if there are legitimate apps that can be used for taxis in Colombia in a similar manner as Uber was used?[/QUOTE]What is the need of such an app in a country where taxi are ubiquitous and so cheap? Even most serious language problems should not be a barrier to state the name of the destination and check the correct price before leaving.

In Cartagena, at any hour of the day and time, I am literally surrounded by yellow cars offering a ride, and the price of a ride between Bocagrande and Centro is less than 2. 50 USD. In most European countries this is cheaper than a city bus ticket!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2407838]What happens when they have a male doorman but a female receptionist registering people and enforcing the rules? Yes, I've had a couple of run ins with the "Nurse Ratchet" types. Luckily the building had visitor rules that didn't stop the chica from being registered. The receptionist just gave the chica a colonoscopy when checking her ID.[/QUOTE]I have never stayed in Bocagrande / Laguito and have never seen this, but in buildings in Centro, there is typically only one person: the guy who signs the chicas in and checks cédulas.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2407815]I'm not sure Uber being banned is going to have a significant effect on taxi rates. At least in Bogota and Medellin, taxis outnumbered Uber by a huge amount, probably at least 15 - 1. Taxi rates, once again, at least in Bogota and Medellin are set by the city, not by the drivers. Uber was also never technically legal in Colombia. Before they were operating in a gray area, not legal, not illegal. That's one of the reasons why they always insist you sit in the front.

When I had a chica pick me up at the airport in Rionegro, in July, we were immediately pulled over and she was questioned for 10 minutes because they thought she was an Uber driver.

I'd be really surprised if the cities immediately raise taxi rates by a significant amount. Of course there will always be taxistas trying to hit you with the gringo rates, but you'll probably only see a small increase.

Here's a link that contains a link to the official taxi rates. Familiarize yourself with the rates you need and bypass the drivers who are charging too much.

[URL]https://www.cartagenaexplorer.com/comprehensive-guide-to-public-transportation-in-cartagena-colombia/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2407798]Curious to know how the Uber ban has affected cab fares from someone who's visited after the ban went into effect.

I know some Spanish but not a fluent speaker so using Uber and having the destination already entered on the app before pick up was pretty sweet when I visited Medellin.[/QUOTE]To say the same thing in different language; Since taxi rates are set by a regulating body, these rates are not subject to market forces so Uber never had any effect on taxi rates. I don't think Uber is going to go away quietly anyway. Uber has a history of operating illegally now and apologizing later (paying the fines). Here is an article that suggests the whole situation is political and may blow over. The current government is very business friendly but due to recent unrest has given in to the taxi unions to prevent them from striking.

[URL]https://www.financecolombia.com/colombian-government-issues-cease-desist-order-to-uber-but-uber-continues-to-operate/[/URL]

Here is an article about a service that is currently only operating in Bogota but probably will expand to other cities in the next few years, it is something to watch for since it will make Taxis more honest and safe.

[URL]https://www.contxto.com/en/colombia/colombian-ride-hailing-digi-leapfrogs-regulation-working-cab-drivers/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2407881]Thanks. This may be a silly question but do you know if there are legitimate apps that can be used for taxis in Colombia in a similar manner as Uber was used?[/QUOTE]There's Easy Taxi and Tappsi that I know of. I'm not sure how widely they are used in Cartagena.

I'm not sure why everyone is freting over transportation, look I don't speak a lick of spanish and I over paid, anywhere I was going it was 8000. Thats literal pennies, I didn't ask before and was fine paying it every time. If you speak spanish you could probably get it for 6000 but who cares. Uber is not common there and I would assume its more expensive. Cartagena is plenty safe just be smart.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2408322]I'm not sure why everyone is freting over transportation, look I don't speak a lick of spanish and I over paid, anywhere I was going it was 8000. Thats literal pennies, I didn't ask before and was fine paying it every time. If you speak spanish you could probably get it for 6000 but who cares. Uber is not common there and I would assume its more expensive. Cartagena is plenty safe just be smart.[/QUOTE]Agreed using Uber in Cartagena is a hassle. Taxis are everywhere and I've never had an issue. All the prices are fixed between zones.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2408322]I'm not sure why everyone is freting over transportation, look I don't speak a lick of spanish and I over paid, anywhere I was going it was 8000. Thats literal pennies, I didn't ask before and was fine paying it every time. If you speak spanish you could probably get it for 6000 but who cares. Uber is not common there and I would assume its more expensive. Cartagena is plenty safe just be smart.[/QUOTE]I also agree that taxis are not an issue in Cartagena, I used Uber in Medellin for convenience sometimes but Cartagena and Medellin are different. Taxis are cheap and in Cartagena and I could care less if I am getting ripped off for chump change. As others have stated they are also everywhere to be found, I have posted this photo as evidence before, this is in Laguito.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2407881]Thanks. This may be a silly question but do you know if there are legitimate apps that can be used for taxis in Colombia in a similar manner as Uber was used?[/QUOTE]Easy Or Easy taxi. Used it in Medellin a couple of years back. Worked great.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2408322]I'm not sure why everyone is freting over transportation, look I don't speak a lick of spanish and I over paid, anywhere I was going it was 8000. Thats literal pennies, I didn't ask before and was fine paying it every time. If you speak spanish you could probably get it for 6000 but who cares. Uber is not common there and I would assume its more expensive. Cartagena is plenty safe just be smart.[/QUOTE]Who's "freting" over it? If you're referring to me since I brought up the topic, I'm pretty certain there's not any tone of tension or worry in my post. It was simply curiosity as stated in the post. Others have kept discussing it because right now, there's nothing else to talk about since most people aren't in CTG during the holidays.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2408860]Who's "freting" over it? If you're referring to me since I brought up the topic, I'm pretty certain there's not any tone of tension or worry in my post. It was simply curiosity as stated in the post. Others have kept discussing it because right now, there's nothing else to talk about since most people aren't in CTG during the holidays.[/QUOTE]Easy just my choice of words, it's a topic that keeps coming back. I've only been to Cartagena but will be in Bogota in a few weeks, I just don't get why this forum isn't more active.

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Be careful of this chica, in fact, choose another. We set an appointment. She said she was in the Hotel Caribe, about 12 min taxi ride east of the walled city. When I got there, it was a no tell motel, the kind you drive your car into a garage and they close you in so nobody can see your car or Lic plate. The room rate was 35 KCOP which obviously fell on to me and I was ok with that. So I am waiting in the courtyard & I whatsapp her. She messaged back 4 min, then 10 min later, she messaged 6 min and still wasn't there 10 min after that. She finally shows up about 30 min after the appt time. I know, I know typical in COL. What she did was wait till I got there and then got a cab to the Caribe. Very standoffish, bad attitude, just not into the cita at all, not smiling, not talking, barely going thru the motions. She was the chica in the fotos. Not much to look at but just a perfect body, beautiful small operated senos, perfect little culito and nalgas, really a 10 below the neck and a 5 above the neck line which is why she doesn't have any facial shots on her anuncio.

So I struggle thru the session & finish with a really nice shot between her senos (the one part of the session that was good) , get dressed, lay 120 KCOP on the bed and she says "no it's 150!" I reminded her that her ad stated 120 & if she wanted 150 she should put that in her ad. She relented and said ok. So as I am checking out on the other side of the courtyard, she hangs back in the garage waiting for a taxi. The taxi comes and she gets in and leaves. The lady behind the window that I was paying the 35 KCOP to gets a radio call and then tells me that there is a bottle of water missing out of the fridge so I had to pay for that also. I don't know if this was a scam by the hotel staff or if she actually did steal the bottle of water from the stocked fridge in the room. Anyway, I'll give her a pass on the water bottle.

Anyway, as always, YMMV. She may be into you or just had a bad day. Just be careful of like I said earlier, choose another.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2408953][URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bolivar/cartagena/bella-escort-en-cartagena-solo-para-hombres-de-buen-gusto-id-vbgpp[/URL]

Be careful of this chica, in fact, choose another. We set an appointment. She said she was in the Hotel Caribe, about 12 min taxi ride east of the walled city. When I got there, it was a no tell motel, the kind you drive your car into a garage and they close you in so nobody can see your car or Lic plate. The room rate was 35 KCOP which obviously fell on to me and I was ok with that. So I am waiting in the courtyard & I whatsapp her. She messaged back 4 min, then 10 min later, she messaged 6 min and still wasn't there 10 min after that. She finally shows up about 30 min after the appt time. I know, I know typical in COL. What she did was wait till I got there and then got a cab to the Caribe. Very standoffish, bad attitude, just not into the cita at all, not smiling, not talking, barely going thru the motions. She was the chica in the fotos. Not much to look at but just a perfect body, beautiful small operated senos, perfect little culito and nalgas, really a 10 below the neck and a 5 above the neck line which is why she doesn't have any facial shots on her anuncio.

So I struggle thru the session & finish with a really nice shot between her senos (the one part of the session that was good) , get dressed, lay 120 KCOP on the bed and she says "no it's 150!" I reminded her that her ad stated 120 & if she wanted 150 she should put that in her ad. She relented and said ok. So as I am checking out on the other side of the courtyard, she hangs back in the garage waiting for a taxi. The taxi comes and she gets in and leaves. The lady behind the window that I was paying the 35 KCOP to gets a radio call and then tells me that there is a bottle of water missing out of the fridge so I had to pay for that also. I don't know if this was a scam by the hotel staff or if she actually did steal the bottle of water from the stocked fridge in the room. Anyway, I'll give her a pass on the water bottle.

Anyway, as always, YMMV. She may be into you or just had a bad day. Just be careful of like I said earlier, choose another.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the review, I had tried meeting up with her before and it didn't happen. I'll count my self lucky. I'll see if I can find the ads of the girls I fucked and post reviews so you have a reference as well.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2408322]I'm not sure why everyone is freting over transportation, look I don't speak a lick of spanish and I over paid, anywhere I was going it was 8000. Thats literal pennies, I didn't ask before and was fine paying it every time. If you speak spanish you could probably get it for 6000 but who cares. Uber is not common there and I would assume its more expensive. Cartagena is plenty safe just be smart.[/QUOTE]Concerns about taxis in general are:

- Change. Driver doesn't have any (so ends up getting a 12 k tip on top of 8 k for example).

- Fake notes. Driver gives you a fake note as change, or says that you gave him one.

- Being robbed by his associates. There's no record of who he is or where he's taking you.

Uber (and similar) help to avoid these.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2409093]Concerns about taxis in general are:

- Change. Driver doesn't have any (so ends up getting a 12 k tip on top of 8 k for example).

- Fake notes. Driver gives you a fake note as change, or says that you gave him one.

- Being robbed by his associates. There's no record of who he is or where he's taking you.

Uber (and similar) help to avoid these.[/QUOTE]I've been to Cartagena many many times and go 4-5 times a year. I probably spend around 60 days in that city every year. Let me share with you my experience: they usually have change but I don't fret over 2 k (I generally have lots of 5 k and 10 k notes on me when taking taxis). I've never seen fake currency in Colombia. I've never been robbed in Cartagena but always stay in the tourist areas. The closest I've been to being robbed is some Venezuelan men approaching me outside the old city as I got out of the cab. I walked off toward the old city which has a fairly decent police presence.

The concerns you share I would say would happen in Medellin more than in the tourist areas in Cartagena. As a friend in Cartagena once told me as I was leaving a casino with 12 million pesos in winnings: "Anywhere else you would be killed for that but not in this area. ".

Taking Uber anywhere in Bocagrande, Laguito, Getsemani, or the old city is going to be a lot more trouble than its worth. Not to mention always get in the front seat because if taxis see an uber they are going to be pissed off.

Anyone eat here? I enjoy fine dining so for those guys who enjoy eating in high end restaurants please feel free to give me some advice.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2409093]Concerns about taxis in general are.[/QUOTE]YippieKayay is totally right.

I never had such problems in CTG in 10 years of visits.

At worst, I can give 10 k instead of 8 k. It's called tip.

Why call UBER when yellow cars pass in front of me one after the other?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2409141]I've been to Cartagena many many times and go 4-5 times a year. I probably spend around 60 days in that city every year. Let me share with you my experience: they usually have change but I don't fret over 2 k (I generally have lots of 5 k and 10 k notes on me when taking taxis). I've never seen fake currency in Colombia. I've never been robbed in Cartagena but always stay in the tourist areas. The closest I've been to being robbed is some Venezuelan men approaching me outside the old city as I got out of the cab. I walked off toward the old city which has a fairly decent police presence.

The concerns you share I would say would happen in Medellin more than in the tourist areas in Cartagena. As a friend in Cartagena once told me as I was leaving a casino with 12 million pesos in winnings: "Anywhere else you would be killed for that but not in this area. ".

Taking Uber anywhere in Bocagrande, Laguito, Getsemani, or the old city is going to be a lot more trouble than its worth. Not to mention always get in the front seat because if taxis see an uber they are going to be pissed off.[/QUOTE]I have seen a couple of cases of counterfeit bills, although it's hard to say if they were deliberately, or originated with the taxista.

I've used both Uber and taxis. I've had issues with both. The problems were just occasional things. If you deal with enough taxis, you're going to eventually run into one who will try to overcharge.

The problem with getting robbed in a set-up by taxi drivers used to be a Bogota thing. I haven't heard about it anywhere else, or recently.

Anyone have experience in this new building. Are they chica friendly?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2409343]Anyone have experience in this new building. Are they chica friendly?[/QUOTE]The short answer is No. Don't even bother with that place.

Will the taxis at the airport take USD? Any advice? I'the rather not exchange currency at the airport.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2409461]Will the taxis at the airport take USD? Any advice? I'the rather not exchange currency at the airport.[/QUOTE]In Colombia the currency is Colombian Pesos. Paying in USD is a way to get ripped off fast.

There are ATMs in the departures area, and you can exchange a bit of cash in arrivals before you go out. Best to do that instead of offering USD to a taxi.

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Taxis are a rip off period, they are trying to ban uber which is cheaper and keeps them accountable. There are also buses to go to your hotel.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2409492]In Colombia the currency is Colombian Pesos. Paying in USD is a way to get ripped off fast.

There are ATMs in the departures area, and you can exchange a bit of cash in arrivals before you go out. Best to do that instead of offering USD to a taxi.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2409492]In Colombia the currency is Colombian Pesos. Paying in USD is a way to get ripped off fast.

There are ATMs in the departures area, and you can exchange a bit of cash in arrivals before you go out. Best to do that instead of offering USD to a taxi.[/QUOTE]Uber also works, you can have one take you to an ATM before your hotel.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2409343]Anyone have experience in this new building. Are they chica friendly?[/QUOTE]You can bring a chica to this building. You will have to check her in when you arrive and they will give her a wristband. This will be your only visitor. Nobody is allowed to come to your room period. Very strict security here. But a very nice place to stay if you want to wife up!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2409492]There are ATMs in the departures area, i.[/QUOTE]How many times has been repeated already that ATMs are the most convenient and cheapest way to get local cash? (unless one has some amount of USD CASH and therefore needs to change it).

This should be written on top of the Forum, together with "No good quality hotel is chica friendly".

[QUOTE=NoMarriage;2409528]Taxis are a rip off period, they are trying to ban uber which is cheaper and keeps them accountable. There are also buses to go to your hotel.[/QUOTE]It's 25 k from the airport to Bocagrande. That's less than 5 dollars. How is that a rip off? You go to the window and get a coupon which you give to the taxi driver.

You're going to call an uber, stand there, and wait to save on what? Two dollars?

I'm only posting this so reasonable people visiting get the measure of things.

[QUOTE=NoMarriage;2409528]Taxis are a rip off period[/QUOTE]From the height of your 29 posts (just 4-5 from Colombia, and mostly not to report but to seek information) you try to lecture senior members who wrote countless pages just in this thread to guide newbies?

Taxies in CTG are ubiquitous, overwhelming in their number, and apply standard regulated prices. Everyone know those prices, which are cheaper than a bus in my European country. PERIOD.

And, of course, reading that you suggest buses to go to the hotel clearly demonstrates that you have never been in CTG. (yes, there are buses, but... LOL)

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2409739]It's 25 k from the airport to Bocagrande. That's less than 5 dollars. How is that a rip off? You go to the window and get a coupon which you give to the taxi driver.[/QUOTE]It is even cheaper than that. Last time I visited (2019) it was 18 k something from CTG airport to Laguito, which I rounded up to 20 k. Same to return to airport the day I leave. A whopping 6 USD, with ZERO waiting time from the door of my building in Laguito.

P.S.: I took the time to write these needless notes, just to avoid some newcomer to CTG is misled.

From all the recent posts, feels like all the "nice" places are not chica friendly and / or doormen must be bribed? Also suggestions that Airbnb hosts will say they are, when they aren't.

Any suggestions of where or how to find places that are chica friendly (preferably within the walled city). They don't have to be luxury. All I ask for is: hot water & fresh towels, LOL. What's the strategy. I want a place that can be a revolving door for 3 days. But no parties or anything crazy (other than loud chica moans on occasion).

[QUOTE=NoMarriage;2409528]Taxis are a rip off period, they are trying to ban uber which is cheaper and keeps them accountable. There are also buses to go to your hotel.[/QUOTE]

Having been in a lot of the major cities in the USA, New York City, Chicago, Miami, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Portland, San Francisco, San Jose, LOS Angeles, and San Diego. A few cities internationally, Mexico City, Panama City, London, Barcelona, Paris, Rome, Venice, Prague, and Istanbul. I am going to say unequivocally that using taxis in Cartagena is a better experience than any of those cities because availability and price is better than any of those cities. Cartagena is not going to notice if Uber stops operating there because taxis are so cheap and ubiquitous. Stand on the side of the street and like magic within two minutes a taxi will come by. If they do overcharge even a couple of thousand pesos sometimes that's less than 1 USD. I factor it in as part of the tip.

The taxis in Cartagena are kept in check by a regulation not by Uber, Uber has zero effect on taxis anywhere in Colombia, the taxi drivers perceived threat from Uber is psychological and not real. As stated by other posters this is one of the places in the world where it's Easier to get a taxi than an Uber. To get an Uber I have to pull out my phone and open the app and touch the screen, then walk to the street and wait for the Uber to arrive. To get a taxi I simply stick my hand in the air, no waiting, no need to pull out my phone.

Take a bus? While I am sure it is cheap, it is the slowest and most inconvenient form of transportation, especially if you are arriving at the airport with your luggage. You are probably going to get some looks from people being annoyed that you piling in with your luggage while they are trying to get to / from work. Let the local working class people have their least expensive form of transportation to commute and take taxi. The reason the buses go to the hotels is most likely to to take the housekeepers and hotel workers, not for tourists.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2409461]Will the taxis at the airport take USD? Any advice? I'the rather not exchange currency at the airport.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2409492]In Colombia the currency is Colombian Pesos. Paying in USD is a way to get ripped off fast.

There are ATMs in the departures area, and you can exchange a bit of cash in arrivals before you go out. Best to do that instead of offering USD to a taxi.[/QUOTE]Always be sure that you have notified your bank that you are traveling to Colombia and the dates you are traveling to keep them from flagging your card for fraud and disabling it. Another way to find an ATM is to walk outside, turn left and walk to toward the end of the building, not far past the taxi stand, and look for a sign that says "cajero" and / or "servibanca". They have the ATM conveniently located near the Taxi stand. These are "lobby" style ATMs and may close at a certain time, I am not sure.

Photo Google Maps circa 2017.

[QUOTE=CFront;2409788]From all the recent posts, feels like all the "nice" places are not chica friendly and / or doormen must be bribed? Also suggestions that Airbnb hosts will say they are, when they aren't.

Any suggestions of where or how to find places that are chica friendly (preferably within the walled city). They don't have to be luxury. All I ask for is: hot water & fresh towels, LOL. What's the strategy. I want a place that can be a revolving door for 3 days. But no parties or anything crazy (other than loud chica moans on occasion).[/QUOTE]When searching Airbnb look at the "house rules" for that place. It will definitely let you know if you can't bring in outside visitors. Some mention nothing about it being a problem. This has been mentioned multiple times here. Regardless if they allow visitors I would still be discreet about it. Don't fuck it up for others and give them a reason to put "no visitors " in their house rules.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2409461]Will the taxis at the airport take USD? Any advice? I'the rather not exchange currency at the airport.[/QUOTE]Don't spend USD in Colombia. Use the local currency always!

[QUOTE=NoMarriage;2409528]Taxis are a rip off period, they are trying to ban uber which is cheaper and keeps them accountable. There are also buses to go to your hotel.[/QUOTE]I've taken the taxi from the airport, to the airport, Centro, boca grande, el Laguito and points in between. They have been cheap, reliable and convenient. It's worth it for me.

[QUOTE=CFront;2409788]From all the recent posts, feels like all the "nice" places are not chica friendly and / or doormen must be bribed? Also suggestions that Airbnb hosts will say they are, when they aren't.

Any suggestions of where or how to find places that are chica friendly (preferably within the walled city). They don't have to be luxury. All I ask for is: hot water & fresh towels, LOL. What's the strategy. I want a place that can be a revolving door for 3 days. But no parties or anything crazy (other than loud chica moans on occasion).[/QUOTE]Yes, the same suggestion we've always made. Ask the host. It took me a year to reliably be able to rent nice places that are chica friendly. I'm not posting my contacts so everyone and their grandmother can use them and possibly ruin them.

Here's a simple way to do this. Get a regular hotel room for the first two nights. Use the love hotels for those two nights. During the day visit some of the buildings that look nice and ask about apartments and the guest rules. Rent that apartment for the rest of the trip.

Rinse and repeat. A few trips to Cartagena and you'll have the lay of the land.

Otherwise do what the locals do and use the love hotels.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2407214]There is a big distinction to make between 1) "love HOTELS" in Centro, including inside the walls, Getsemani and Bocagrande, and 2) the "love MOTELS" in Crespo. I see often confusion here between "motel" and "hotel", but remember what is a "motel": a "motor hotel".

1) They are everywhere. Do not bother to find them in advance. The girl will take you there. Warning: they are for short time (what girls call "1 hour") meaning wham-bam-thankyoumadame. Go there if you are NOT looking for a girlfriend experience, but just fucking.
I believe that the main driver to go to CTG, and afford the expensive nightlife of CTG, should be pretending to have a GF for a while, even few hours on a night, and therefore I seldom patronized these cheap short time places. They cost from 15 k up to maybe 40 k-50 k (those rooms available for 5 k are a memory of 10 years ago).

2) This is a totally different story. Most famous are 3: La Jaiba, Las Dunas, La Cangreja (I have been many times to La Jaiba). I remember prices of 10 years ago, but even now a room should be from from maybe 40k up (minimum 2 hours). Definitely cheap for what is provided: a room typically includes a pole for dancing, love chair, etc. Do not neglect the jacuzzi. It's a GREAT place. Las Dunas is even better.
The taxi drives inside and leaves you at the door, in full privacy. At the gate, they do not even request an ID, or at least they did not when I was a frequent guest there, say from 5 to 10 years ago.
I would go there only if I stay in a good hotel in Centro or Bocagrande (not girl friendly by definition) instead of an apartment, and the girl is more than a simple "1 shot" experience.
Taxi should charge less than 20 k, maybe more to go back (how you go back if you reject the taxi?

P.S.: why don't you read the Cartagena List?[/QUOTE]Going back to Cartagena for the first time in a year although last couple times I went I was with my GF. Looking to stop by for a week or so. What is the Cartagena list? I'll continue to read up on the thread for some more info but my main concern is finding Chica friendly establishments. I hated paying top notch for a place my first time there just to find out no one was allowed from 10 pm to 6 am smdh.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2406252]I have tried twice unsuccessfully to get past WA verification. Are there any tricks to have it done? Do you get the number at home or in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Download that app and the numbers you get from the work great for whatsapp. The trick is to receive a call to verify and just input the code given.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2409929]What is the Cartagena list?[/QUOTE]WT69 will be happy to read your question.

It is a thread under the Colombia main thread, like this one you are reading:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]

Somewhere there you will find a PDF, which is not really up to date, but it's a wealth of information.

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2407237]Just got back from staying in the Palmetto elliptic apts. Rules are no unregistered guests after 10 pm but a quiet talk with the night guard and 50 k took care of the problem. Best to arrange before you head off to the clock tower. Be aware that the owner said the building rules were all quests welcome no rules when I asked before booking. Some will tell you what you want to hear to get you to book so be aware. Have used Juan's and they are okay but are very dated and don't compare with the elliptic which was nice. Maybe someone out there has names of other buildings that are cooperative.[/QUOTE]I stayed at this building a few weeks ago. I booked it on "Booking". Here's the skinny. I first messaged someone with an apartment on Air BNB. I messaged him directly and he told me the building is guest friendly. I wound up finding a better looking apartment in the same building on "booking". I went with that. 1st mistake. Booking doesn't actually charge your credit card. It's just a hold. So when I arrived at the apartment I had to pay the total cost in cash. What a waste of pesos that could be chica bait haha. Then I asked the from desk (guy and girl) the guest policy. Any chica can come in before 10 pm. If you want to bring someone in later that night, she has to be pre registered before 10 pm and then you can bring her back. Do if the girl is a chick you met and took on a date and plan on bringing back your good. But if you met her out in the clubs. You 50/50. O walked over to the doorman before leaving that evening to dinner ND asked him the business. He said yes no problem if I leave him a tip. Across the lobby was a check in desk and I could tell he was whispering. I went to dinner, came home changes and headed out. When I walking out the same guard and the girl were standing in the entrance smoking a cigarette. Hey said " hey buddy, sorry no guest tonight". The girl had a look that spelled "not on my watch". Disaster. Wound up coming home alone and calling over a morning session. The next night before going out he was there again and a different brown skin girl at the main desk, he stood up and said buddy tonight no problem! I gave him a high five and brought home two chicas. I tipped him 60 k. Problem was it was about 3 am. He said they must be gone before 5 am when he leaves shift. At 4:40 am he started calling my room. Every 5 minutes. Amazing threesome but they were drunk and him calling caused me to leave them alone multiple times to answer the calls. They stole; my Alexa speaker, Sonic Care tooth brush, a fake watch, a Diesel t shirt, and even popped the mop closet lock. Hahaha all of which I didn't realize until the next day. I laughed it off and chalked it too a learning experience. I didn't report it because technically they were not supposed to be in there in the first place. So that's the sacrifice and headache at the Palmetto Eliptic.

Hahahaha! No one will tell you! It's like an Easter egg hunt! Enjoy it. I have a good 6.3 in Boca Grande and 2 in the old City. You know how I found them?

Don't don't Duuuuuun. Chicas! They have all the knowledge! Go in Miller Eróticos ir Photoprepaggos or Tender or Facebook! Message and flirt with them and tell them you want to see them. Ask them their favorite hotels that the have seen clients that weren't love motels. They know all the places as this is their business. Just make it appear you want to meet them at a really nice guest friendly hotel. She will not tell you a place that she cannot get into. Just customize the place. Tell her you want to meet up with her at 11 pm so it cannot have time restraints. I don't know about your success but I sent the same message to lots of girls. Received lots of feedback. The palmetto was a big one so this new rule change must be recent. But overall these are just leads and a lot more than you will get here. These are out precious gems! I know I'm not sharing LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2410807]The palmetto was a big one so this new rule change must be recent. But overall these are just leads and a lot more than you will get here. These are out precious gems! I know I'm not sharing LOL.[/QUOTE]The reason the change happened is people posted that building's name several times in this thread. It got popular and then something bad happened and now the rules changed.

No offense but you're not doing it right. You had to bribe doormen and they still shut you down. When you finally get a chica (s) into the building they rob you. That sounds like a complete mess. Next time find a building that actually registers them so you don't get robbed.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2410798]I stayed at this building a few weeks ago. I booked it on "Booking". Here's the skinny. I first messaged someone with an apartment on Air BNB. I messaged him directly and he told me the building is guest friendly. I wound up finding a better looking apartment in the same building on "booking". I went with that. 1st mistake. Booking doesn't actually charge your credit card. It's just a hold. So when I arrived at the apartment I had to pay the total cost in cash. What a waste of pesos that could be chica bait haha. Then I asked the from desk (guy and girl) the guest policy. Any chica can come in before 10 pm. If you want to bring someone in later that night, she has to be pre registered before 10 pm and then you can bring her back. Do if the girl is a chick you met and took on a date and plan on bringing back your good. But if you met her out in the clubs. You 50/50. O walked over to the doorman before leaving that evening to dinner ND asked him the business. He said yes no problem if I leave him a tip. Across the lobby was a check in desk and I could tell he was whispering. I went to dinner, came home changes and headed out. When I walking out the same guard and the girl were standing in the entrance smoking a cigarette. Hey said " hey buddy, sorry no guest tonight". The girl had a look that spelled "not on my watch". Disaster. Wound up coming home alone and calling over a morning session. The next night before going out he was there again and a different brown skin girl at the main desk, he stood up and said buddy tonight no problem! I gave him a high five and brought home two chicas. I tipped him 60 k. Problem was it was about 3 am. He said they must be gone before 5 am when he leaves shift. At 4:40 am he started calling my room. Every 5 minutes. Amazing threesome but they were drunk and him calling caused me to leave them alone multiple times to answer the calls. They stole; my Alexa speaker, Sonic Care tooth brush, a fake watch, a Diesel t shirt, and even popped the mop closet lock. Hahaha all of which I didn't realize until the next day. I laughed it off and chalked it too a learning experience. I didn't report it because technically they were not supposed to be in there in the first place. So that's the sacrifice and headache at the Palmetto Eliptic.[/QUOTE]Mate,

It sounds like the doormen and the girls were in on it, first off you gave him *60 k* which is what 2 days wage? That's like if you were in the states and tipped a doorman $300, little nuts don't you think? And just for 2 hours? And the girls robbed you? Jesus christ man, not to be harsh but maybe think less with the small head to not get hustled by locals who see someone willing to throw money around? When the doormen asked for a tip that should've been the first red flag.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2409901]When searching Airbnb look at the "house rules" for that place. It will definitely let you know if you can't bring in outside visitors. Some mention nothing about it being a problem. This has been mentioned multiple times here. Regardless if they allow visitors I would still be discreet about it. Don't fuck it up for others and give them a reason to put "no visitors " in their house rules.[/QUOTE]I stayed at this building a few weeks ago. I booked it on "Booking". Here's the skinny. I first messaged someone with an apartment on Air BNB. I messaged him directly and he told me the building is guest friendly. I wound up finding a better looking apartment in the same building on "booking". I went with that. 1st mistake. Booking doesn't actually charge your credit card. It's just a hold. So when I arrived at the apartment I had to pay the total cost in cash. What a waste of pesos that could be chica bait haha. Then I asked the from desk (guy and girl) the guest policy. Any chica can come in before 10 pm. If you want to bring someone in later that night, she has to be pre registered before 10 pm and then you can bring her back. Do if the girl is a chick you met and took on a date and plan on bringing back your good. But if you met her out in the clubs. You 50/50. O walked over to the doorman before leaving that evening to dinner ND asked him the business. He said yes no problem if I leave him a tip. Across the lobby was a check in desk and I could tell he was whispering. I went to dinner, came home changes and headed out. When I walking out the same guard and the girl were standing in the entrance smoking a cigarette. Hey said " hey buddy, sorry no guest tonight". The girl had a look that spelled "not on my watch". Disaster. Wound up coming home alone and calling over a morning session. The next night before going out he was there again and a different brown skin girl at the main desk, he stood up and said buddy tonight no problem! I gave him a high five and brought home two chicas. I tipped him 60 k. Problem was it was about 3 am. He said they must be gone before 5 am when he leaves shift. At 4:40 am he started calling my room. Every 5 minutes. Amazing threesome but they were drunk and him calling caused me to leave them alone multiple times to answer the calls. They stole; my Alexa speaker, Sonic Care tooth brush, a fake watch, a Diesel t shirt, and even popped the mop closet lock. Hahaha all of which I didn't realize until the next day. I laughed it off and chalked it too a learning experience. I didn't report it because technically they were not supposed to be in there in the first place. So that's the sacrifice and headache at the Palmetto Eliptic.

Exhibit A on fucking it up for others.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2410254]WT69 will be happy to read your question.

It is a thread under the Colombia main thread, like this one you are reading:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]

Somewhere there you will find a PDF, which is not really up to date, but it's a wealth of information.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I will go and read up.

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2411454]I stayed at this building a few weeks ago. I booked it on "Booking". Here's the skinny. I first messaged someone with an apartment on Air BNB. I messaged him directly and he told me the building is guest friendly. I wound up finding a better looking apartment in the same building on "booking". I went with that. 1st mistake. Booking doesn't actually charge your credit card. It's just a hold. So when I arrived at the apartment I had to pay the total cost in cash. What a waste of pesos that could be chica bait haha. Then I asked the from desk (guy and girl) the guest policy. Any chica can come in before 10 pm. If you want to bring someone in later that night, she has to be pre registered before 10 pm and then you can bring her back. Do if the girl is a chick you met and took on a date and plan on bringing back your good. But if you met her out in the clubs. You 50/50. O walked over to the doorman before leaving that evening to dinner ND asked him the business. He said yes no problem if I leave him a tip. Across the lobby was a check in desk and I could tell he was whispering. I went to dinner, came home changes and headed out. When I walking out the same guard and the girl were standing in the entrance smoking a cigarette. Hey said " hey buddy, sorry no guest tonight". The girl had a look that spelled "not on my watch". Disaster. Wound up coming home alone and calling over a morning session. The next night before going out he was there again and a different brown skin girl at the main desk, he stood up and said buddy tonight no problem! I gave him a high five and brought home two chicas. I tipped him 60 k. Problem was it was about 3 am. He said they must be gone before 5 am when he leaves shift. At 4:40 am he started calling my room. Every 5 minutes. Amazing threesome but they were drunk and him calling caused me to leave them alone multiple times to answer the calls. They stole; my Alexa speaker, Sonic Care tooth brush, a fake watch, a Diesel t shirt, and even popped the mop closet lock. Hahaha all of which I didn't realize until the next day.[/QUOTE]Threesomes are great if you know the chicas well. Otherwise you are just asking for trouble because it is much easier for one of them to rip off you while you are occupied with the other one.

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2407237]Just got back from staying in the Palmetto elliptic apts. Rules are no unregistered guests after 10 pm but a quiet talk with the night guard and 50 k took care of the problem. Best to arrange before you head off to the clock tower. Be aware that the owner said the building rules were all quests welcome no rules when I asked before booking. Some will tell you what you want to hear to get you to book so be aware. Have used Juan's and they are okay but are very dated and don't compare with the elliptic which was nice. Maybe someone out there has names of other buildings that are cooperative.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamElvis;2411454]I stayed at this building a few weeks ago. I booked it on "Booking". Here's the skinny. I first messaged someone with an apartment on Air BNB. I messaged him directly and he told me the building is guest friendly. I wound up finding a better looking apartment in the same building on "booking". I went with that. 1st mistake. Booking doesn't actually charge your credit card. It's just a hold. So when I arrived at the apartment I had to pay the total cost in cash. What a waste of pesos that could be chica bait haha. Then I asked the from desk (guy and girl) the guest policy. Any chica can come in before 10 pm. If you want to bring someone in later that night, she has to be pre registered before 10 pm and then you can bring her back. Do if the girl is a chick you met and took on a date and plan on bringing back your good. But if you met her out in the clubs. You 50/50. O walked over to the doorman before leaving that evening to dinner ND asked him the business. He said yes no problem if I leave him a tip. Across the lobby was a check in desk and I could tell he was whispering. I went to dinner, came home changes and headed out. When I walking out the same guard and the girl were standing in the entrance smoking a cigarette. Hey said " hey buddy, sorry no guest tonight". The girl had a look that spelled "not on my watch". Disaster. Wound up coming home alone and calling over a morning session. The next night before going out he was there again and a different brown skin girl at the main desk, he stood up and said buddy tonight no problem! I gave him a high five and brought home two chicas. I tipped him 60 k. Problem was it was about 3 am. He said they must be gone before 5 am when he leaves shift. At 4:40 am he started calling my room. Every 5 minutes. Amazing threesome but they were drunk and him calling caused me to leave them alone multiple times to answer the calls. They stole; my Alexa speaker, Sonic Care tooth brush, a fake watch, a Diesel t shirt, and even popped the mop closet lock. Hahaha all of which I didn't realize until the next day. I laughed it off and chalked it too a learning experience. I didn't report it because technically they were not supposed to be in there in the first place. So that's the sacrifice and headache at the Palmetto Eliptic.

Exhibit A on fucking it up for others.[/QUOTE]I am trying to figure out the gist of your post, both of you did the exact same thing, bribe a doorman. So how is his action Exhibit A? What am I missing here? In your post you are responding to MongerHunger who was complaining about people mentioning the name of the building which you did in the post that TheCarlAnthony was responding to. You copied and pasted his report instead of multi quoting him and Mongerhunger so to anyone who had not read TheCarlAnthony's post it now looks like you are the original writer of the post. As is evidenced by AmorPorFavor responding to your post in regard to threesomes.

Does anyone know the difference in ID's between the actual cards and laminated cards? The place I stayed were fine if the girls had the actual card. But they wouldn't let girls in if they had the laminated card.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2411257]The reason the change happened is people posted that building's name several times in this thread. It got popular and then something bad happened and now the rules changed.

No offense but you're not doing it right. You had to bribe doormen and they still shut you down. When you finally get a chica (s) into the building they rob you. That sounds like a complete mess. Next time find a building that actually registers them so you don't get robbed.[/QUOTE]Why would anyone stay at a place that doesn't register all guests if they are bringing strangers back who hustle money and sell pussy for a living? It's so worth the 'chica fee' which is never more than 20-25 bucks and is usually around 10-15 bucks to ave her registered and to have the hotel security on notice just in case. You can always ask the hotel front desk to call you if she leaves the room alone! There are cameras in the halls and elevators and the front desk is usually by the main exit. I look at the 'chica fee' as me paying for her to be not able to leave without confirmation that I am all good and not robbed, drugged or bothered in any negative way when she is leaving. Its insurance. And a warning. Just tell the girl that the hotel will call and check on you when she leaves--especially if she leaves the room alone. Tell her that before you take her back--when you double check that she actually has a cedula. Or on whatsapp or FB messenger or whatever you are using (tinder etc). No chica with bad intentions like drugging or robbing you is going to want to go back to a hotel that you tell them has security, they have to register, security watches on camera until you are in the room and checks on guests when people leave the room--especially if the guest leaves alone.

People spend money on flights, hotels, drugs, restaurants, pussy, then skimp on safety where their valuables are. Makes no sense. Pick a place with good security. Follow the rules--if the rules don't work for you--pick another spot. Be nice to front desk, security and housekeeping. Tip, leave online reviews and treat people well. That's always my method-and I never have issues in my hotel.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2410807]Hahahaha! No one will tell you! It's like an Easter egg hunt! Enjoy it. I have a good 6.3 in Boca Grande and 2 in the old City. You know how I found them?

Don't don't Duuuuuun. Chicas! They have all the knowledge! Go in Miller Erticos ir Photoprepaggos or Tender or Facebook! Message and flirt with them and tell them you want to see them. Ask them their favorite hotels that the have seen clients that weren't love motels. They know all the places as this is their business. Just make it appear you want to meet them at a really nice guest friendly hotel. She will not tell you a place that she cannot get into. Just customize the place. Tell her you want to meet up with her at 11 pm so it cannot have time restraints. I don't know about your success but I sent the same message to lots of girls. Received lots of feedback. The palmetto was a big one so this new rule change must be recent. But overall these are just leads and a lot more than you will get here. These are out precious gems! I know I'm not sharing LOL.[/QUOTE]She may also tell you about hotels with lax security or people working there that she knows so she can rob you.

Only get hotel knowledge from girls you have previously had positive and safe experiences with-girls that you have already seen register with their cedula at a nice hotel then gave good service and have a real social media presense--like with pics of their families on their facebooks. Those AR the ones that give safe and real advice IMO.

[QUOTE=Questner;2407773]Is Mery Salence is still in rental business? I rented from her in the past too, just can't recall what has been since.[/QUOTE]Yes. Contact info the same as in the past.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2406892]I'm headed to Cartagena in January. This is my first trip to Colombia. The forum has been a great source of info, thanks guys. Can anybody help me out with which bank ATM's charge the lowest transaction fees to get cash?[/QUOTE]Caja Social and BBVA.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2405292]I guess my real question, which in part has been answered, was how would they know who we bring in and out. I should have also specified we are looking for more of a whole unit / home / townhome type of rental, so I'm thinking as it would likely be in America, once I have the keys to a private house, how do they know who goes in and out? I suppose if there's some security guard I could understand.[/QUOTE]The posts and responses are in re to "buildings" with multiple units, not a private home. If you rent a private home, you are correct, but there tends to be "staff" that live on site who will let the owner know should you break the "rules" that you agreed to as part of your agreement with the owner.

All that being said, the times I've rented or been an invited guest of an entire single-family home, we did not encounter any of the "restrictions" that are the topic of much discussion in the thread.

Can someone please recommend currency exchange place with decent rates in El Laguito, Bocagrande or other area. If you know the website of this casa de cambio, please post it. I know ATM is the best way to go at the moment, still there is a reason why I need it.

On free withdrawals from ATMs: (don't know if the information is up to date).

[URL]https://atmhero.net/countries/atm/colombia/[/URL] Shows BBVA 600 K, Colpatria Red Multibanca 900 K, Davivienda 800 K.

I got in touch with Mery; it just takes long to get a response from her.

[QUOTE=Questner;2412428]Can someone please recommend currency exchange place with decent rates in El Laguito, Bocagrande or other area. If you know the website of this casa de cambio, please post it. I know ATM is the best way to go at the moment, still there is a reason why I need it.
[/QUOTE]In Bocagrande you can find them starting on Calle 4, Carrera 2. Many of them will be on Carrera 2 as you go northward and will post the rates outside their window. I haven't seen rates better than a 10% commission so I never use them. I can live with 3% or less if I needed to but not 10%.

Let us know how it goes. There are a number of banks along that street. You can try there too but I have never tried exchanging at a bank.

Bring your passport. It's required for tourists when changing money.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2410798]I stayed at this building a few weeks ago. I booked it on "Booking". Here's the skinny. I first messaged someone with an apartment on Air BNB. I messaged him directly and he told me the building is guest friendly. I wound up finding a better looking apartment in the same building on "booking". I went with that. 1st mistake. Booking doesn't actually charge your credit card. It's just a hold. So when I arrived at the apartment I had to pay the total cost in cash. What a waste of pesos that could be chica bait haha. Then I asked the from desk (guy and girl) the guest policy. Any chica can come in before 10 pm. If you want to bring someone in later that night, she has to be pre registered before 10 pm and then you can bring her back. Do if the girl is a chick you met and took on a date and plan on bringing back your good. But if you met her out in the clubs. You 50/50. O walked over to the doorman before leaving that evening to dinner ND asked him the business. He said yes no problem if I leave him a tip. Across the lobby was a check in desk and I could tell he was whispering. I went to dinner, came home changes and headed out. When I walking out the same guard and the girl were standing in the entrance smoking a cigarette. Hey said " hey buddy, sorry no guest tonight". The girl had a look that spelled "not on my watch". Disaster. Wound up coming home alone and calling over a morning session. The next night before going out he was there again and a different brown skin girl at the main desk, he stood up and said buddy tonight no problem! I gave him a high five and brought home two chicas. I tipped him 60 k. Problem was it was about 3 am. He said they must be gone before 5 am when he leaves shift. At 4:40 am he started calling my room. Every 5 minutes. Amazing threesome but they were drunk and him calling caused me to leave them alone multiple times to answer the calls. They stole; my Alexa speaker, Sonic Care tooth brush, a fake watch, a Diesel t shirt, and even popped the mop closet lock. Hahaha all of which I didn't realize until the next day. I laughed it off and chalked it too a learning experience. I didn't report it because technically they were not supposed to be in there in the first place. So that's the sacrifice and headache at the Palmetto Eliptic.[/QUOTE]Them 2 Vennies got you mane? Smh.

[QUOTE=Questner;2407694]There is no way out just to post and ask for response, it's just important to book at the right place. Have stayed in the past in MDL (Mirador Del Laguito), is it still GF? What about other Laguito buildings: Playa, Marin and Torres and others? Any suggestion and recent examples are welcome; I know it's boring but essential. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Yes MDL still chica friendly, stayed there in November. Matter fact met a cutie in LVD that was staying a couple floors up from where I was staying with a couple of her buddies. No problem bringing any chicas back.

[QUOTE=Questner;2412428]Can someone please recommend currency exchange place with decent rates in El Laguito, Bocagrande or other area. If you know the website of this casa de cambio, please post it. I know ATM is the best way to go at the moment, still there is a reason why I need it.

On free withdrawals from ATMs: (don't know if the information is up to date).

[URL]https://atmhero.net/countries/atm/colombia/[/URL] Shows BBVA 600 K, Colpatria Red Multibanca 900 K, Davivienda 800 K.

I got in touch with Mery; it just takes long to get a response from her.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned below, BBVA is one of two that don't extract "juice" from you, with Caja Social being the other. I don't recall ever using a Colpatria. Davivienda will take you for a ride on the exchange rate they give you; they get you about the same as most currency exchanges places. I consider that Davivienda charges a fee, the worst kind, non-disclosed; they're a clip joint.

Hey, it's not like Mery is looking at her cell phone at all times, replying to texts and emails almost instantly like many folks do these days. The trade-off is that she'll probably live to be a 100 as a result of taking the non-rushed approach to life. .

If you're renting from Mery, she knows the exchange houses that give the best rates. Her taxi driver actually knows a guy who has provided a really good rate in the past.

Just back from Cartegena. The exchange rate at the two booths as you exit the international arrival at the airport were both paying 2900 pesos to 1 USA Dollar. The international exchange rate at the time was about 3250. I had to get some Pesos to take a cab ride into Cartegena, so I did not have any option but to take the exchange. So it cost me about $22 US to exchange $200 US. I did one other transaction inside the Walled City on the street. The exchange was 3000 pesos. I only did $100 US, so that cost me about $7. I used MC for restaurants and other larger purchases. I did not have occasion to check out the banks, but in my travels is usually the way to go. One way to find locations for banks / bank ATMs is to do a [URL]googlemaps.com[/URL] search and bring up the area you are interested in. Then, without changing the map, type in "BBVA" or "Caja Social" and hit search. All the locations within the map will show up. If you change the map area, repeat the search.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2412493]As I mentioned below, BBVA is one of two that don't extract "juice" from you, with Caja Social being the other. I don't recall ever using a Colpatria. Davivienda will take you for a ride on the exchange rate they give you; they get you about the same as most currency exchanges places. I consider that Davivienda charges a fee, the worst kind, non-disclosed; they're a clip joint.[/QUOTE]It is important to always REJECT the exchange proposed by the ATM, but select the "no conversion" option, which means that the exchange rate will be the official XE rate of that day +1. 75% (or 1. 5%? I don't remember), as by the official Maestro policy regardless the ATM's specific bank. The official inter-bank rate +1. 5% is simply unbeatable by any change booth.

I usually opt for Servibanca (the green ones), as they allow to withdraw up to 720 k instead of 600 k (but they charge 17 k as fixed commission, as I believe most others).

[QUOTE=Scubatoo;2412539]Just back from Cartegena.
The exchange rate at the two booths as you exit the international arrival at the airport were both paying 2900 pesos to 1 USA Dollar. The international exchange rate at the time was about 3250.[/QUOTE]Amazing. In the airport there is no ATM? And once in the city you insisted to change instead of going to an ATM? They are everywhere. Uncommentable.
So you paid an interesting 11% exchange fee.

P.S.: your auto-corrector changes Cartagena into "Cartegena"?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2412493]Davivienda will take you for a ride on the exchange rate they give you; they get you about the same as most currency exchanges places. I consider that Davivienda charges a fee, the worst kind, non-disclosed; they're a clip joint.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this happens worldwide, called Dynamic Currency Conversion and sometimes difficult to avoid.

If you listen to Hilltopper. You will get what you deserve. So do this.

So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!

For some reason people on the site keep giving you stupid advice and never change their ways. If you follow my lead you will pay NO ATM fees. You will sometimes receive MORE than the x-rate. But never less than 50 pesos off the rate in my experience.

Just do it.

[QUOTE=Scubatoo;2412539]Just back from Cartegena. The exchange rate at the two booths as you exit the international arrival at the airport were both paying 2900 pesos to 1 USA Dollar. The international exchange rate at the time was about 3250. I had to get some Pesos to take a cab ride into Cartegena, so I did not have any option but to take the exchange. So it cost me about $22 US to exchange $200 US. I did one other transaction inside the Walled City on the street. The exchange was 3000 pesos. I only did $100 US, so that cost me about $7. I used MC for restaurants and other larger purchases. I did not have occasion to check out the banks, but in my travels is usually the way to go. One way to find locations for banks / bank ATMs is to do a [URL]googlemaps.com[/URL] search and bring up the area you are interested in. Then, without changing the map, type in "BBVA" or "Caja Social" and hit search. All the locations within the map will show up. If you change the map area, repeat the search.[/QUOTE]Avoid the bandits at the airport exchange by using the ATM there.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2412657]If you listen to Hilltopper. You will get what you deserve. So do this.

So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!

For some reason people on the site keep giving you stupid advice and never change their ways. If you follow my lead you will pay NO ATM fees. You will sometimes receive MORE than the x-rate. But never less than 50 pesos off the rate in my experience.

Just do it.[/QUOTE]As I posted, I have no knowledge of Colpatria and as said I am unable to provide information either way. Great that you can confirm that one, thanks.

I've used BBVA and Caja Social for years Cartagena, including each within the last week and there is no ATM fee and you get the true exchange rate. That's all.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2412657]If you listen to Hilltopper. You will get what you deserve. So do this.

So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!

For some reason people on the site keep giving you stupid advice and never change their ways. If you follow my lead you will pay NO ATM fees. You will sometimes receive MORE than the x-rate. But never less than 50 pesos off the rate in my experience.

Just do it.[/QUOTE]Are you saying there are no ATM fees for anyone? Regardless of their bank or type of ATM card? Or do you bank at Scotiabank? You did not qualify any of this in this post. You post about how much "you" withdraw a day, but the individual banks of the ATM card holder can (and do, depending on the accoundt and the bank) also limit how much an individual withdraws. These limits will be applied regardless of the ATM machine that one uses. I used two ATM cards each from different banks, and the limits were different for each card even at the same ATM.

Scotiabank / Colpatria website has a link with downloadable pdfs for ATM locations. Usually ATMs don't show their exchange rates, just the amount of pesos to withdraw and a fee.

Visa ATM locator service does not list ScotiaBank Colpatria ATMs but Colpatria only.

All my debit cards are on VisaPlus, and only Mastercard credit cards are on Maestro. I have never seen any machine offering me to reject the proposed exchange rate and choose 'no conversion' - so screenshots are welcome to show how it may look like.

I've found one [URL]puntodollar.com[/URL] location in the city online, maybe will visit to see if the rates are as good as in Bogota or Cali.

I will add BBVA to try them too.

Here are some options in Bocargande:

BANCO DAVIVIENDA S. A. EL LAGUITO EL LAGUITO CALLE 1 NO. 1 A - 98 LOCAL 1 D

SCOTIABANK COLPATRIA MULTIFUNCIONAL BANCA EXPRESS. CENTRO COMERCIAL BOCAGRANDE Carrera 2 # 8-146 Local 119 (This centre also has Davivienda ATM).

Davivienda Bocagrande Cra. 2 ## 9-73. LC. 1-2 open 9 am to 4 pm, Saturday to 12 pm and Sunday closed.

[URL]Puntodollar.com[/URL] Carrera 11 # 39-21 local S-16, open 9 am to 9 pm in CC La Serrezuela (centro), +57 5 6421701.

What's up fellas if you are in CTG February 29th stop through for yacht party to Cholon. Click the link and place your deposit. Total price is 165 usd that includes liquor and transportation to and from the boat. Hit me private message if you have any questions.

[URL]https://cloudlife.wearetitled.com/cartagena[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;2412905]
All my debit cards are on VisaPlus, and only Mastercard credit cards are on Maestro. I have never seen any machine offering me to reject the proposed exchange rate and choose 'no conversion' - so screenshots are welcome to show how it may look like.[/QUOTE]My debit card is on Maestro and not on VisaPlus. I am surprised, but maybe they offer different options?

When I withdraw from an ATM ("savings" or "ahorro" in Colombia) in a non-Euro country I am usually presented two options: 1) the amount converted to EUR and 2) the amount in local currency. Interestingly, the exchange rate of the amount converted in EUR (1) is much worse than the rate I get if I opt for (2).

In this (2) case, the Maestro circuit makes the conversion, applying +1.5% (or +1.75%) to the daily interbank rate. This in hard to beat. Most common fees charged by banks and exchange offices is above 4%, if not 10% as in airports.

Interestingly, the reason why some people opts for (1) is that they do not know they are paying 5% more, or they know but prefer to be sure how much they are paying in their currency.

I am now in Indonesia, and therefore I cannot take a photo of an ATM in Colombia and post it, but I can confirm that I have seen that just yesterday.

Finally, the same care must be exercised when paying by credit card. The mobile terminal where the card is inserted (my credit card is Visa) always present the two options:
- with conversion (EUR)
- without conversion (IDR here in Indonesia, COP in Colombia)
ALWAYS be sure that the seller selects WITHOUT CONVERSION!! If they select "with conversion (EUR)", VISA will apply its exchange rate which means you will end up paying at least 5% more.
In the above, I wrote EUR because my home country is in Europe, but I am confident the same happens to you with USD.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2412645]Unfortunately this happens worldwide, called Dynamic Currency Conversion and sometimes difficult to avoid.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't doubt you. I spend my time in Colombia and over the past 13 years have tried most of the ATM's. I can provide current first-hand knowledge on the following in Cartagena:

Davivienda. While they are listed as "no fee", they give you such a poor exchange rate that one is better off with a "fee" ATM unless withdrawing only a small amount.

Bancolombia. Charges an ATM fee.

Banco de Bogota. Charges an ATM fee.

Banco Popular. Charges an ATM fee.

Servibanca. Charges an ATM fee.

Citibank. Charges an ATM fee.

Caja Social. No ATM fee and you get the true exchange rate (one on Av San Martin allows 700 k per pull) used within the last week.

BBVA. No ATM fee and you get the true exchange rate (600 k per pull) used within the last week.

Corpbanca. No ATM fee, but I haven't used within the past year or so.

So the link that Questner provided has mostly accurate information, except that for Caja Social where they say "Unknown", it should read "No Fee", and then for Davivienda where it says "No Fee" it should read "takes high % fee via reduced currency translation rate".

To Mojo Bandit, I can confirm that for the ones I have first hand knowledge of as provided above, where I say "No ATM Fee", it means that that Bank listed does not take an ATM fee regardless of who you bank with. Whether your own back does on your end, well obviously some do (mine doesn't). Given that Pirate has confirmed that Colpatria is also a true "No Fee" ATM, then you can assume that it works just the same: No Fee charge by Colpatria regardless of who you bank with.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2413085]Yeah, I don't doubt you. I spend my time in Colombia and over the past 13 years have tried most of the ATM's. I can provide current first-hand knowledge on the following in Cartagena:[/QUOTE]May it depend on the debit card used to withdraw?

I have a Maestro card, and I am *nearly* (not 100%) sure that, at least in my case, the exchange rate does not change with the ATM, but it is always +1. 5/+1. 75% the daily rate shown on XE or Yahoo. I did this check a few times in the past, and I am going to do that again.

That +1. 5/+1. 75% is applied by MasterCard, but on top of that of course the bank wishes to earn something (the fixed fee applied by most).

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2413085]Yeah, I don't doubt you. I spend my time in Colombia and over the past 13 years have tried most of the ATM's. I can provide current first-hand knowledge on the following in Cartagena:

Davivienda. While they are listed as "no fee", they give you such a poor exchange rate that one is better off with a "fee" ATM unless withdrawing only a small amount.

Bancolombia. Charges an ATM fee.

Banco de Bogota. Charges an ATM fee.

Banco Popular. Charges an ATM fee.

Servibanca. Charges an ATM fee.

Citibank. Charges an ATM fee.

Caja Social. No ATM fee and you get the true exchange rate (one on Av San Martin allows 700 k per pull) used within the last week..[/QUOTE]Great info Hilltopper. I will be there in a week for my first time. Thanks mucho because my bank, Wells Fargo, will also charge me a $5 fee per transaction.

Thank you. Money is an annoying topic, better speak of bubble butts, but we have to. Anyway, VisaPlus charges 2. 5% over [URL]xe.com[/URL] rate unlike Maestro.

Here is the info on BBVA: Branches and ATMs.

Oficinas BBVA:

[URL]https://www.bbva.com.co/content/dam/public-web/colombia/documents/home/header/oficinas/DO-01-Listado-oficinas-horarios.pdf[/URL]

CARTAGENA BOCAGRANDE EDIFICIO MONTELIBANO CARRERA. 3 No. 8-06 P1/2 5 6517424 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA CARTAGENA CALLE 32 No. 4-65 PLAZA LA ADUANA 5 6517426 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA LA MATUNA AVENIDA VENEZUELA No. 9-79 5 6517427 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA LA PLAZUELA CALLE 71 No. 29-236 CENTRO COMERCIAL CHOPPIN see. 5 6517428 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA PARQUE CENTENARIO AVENIDA DANIEL LEMETRE No. 8 A-65 5 6517422 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA EXTENSIÓand OFICINA BASE NAVAL Lunes a jueves: 09:00 am A 03:00 pm Viernes: 09:00 a. M a 03:30 pm.

CARTAGENA SUPEREJECUTIVOS AVENIDA PEDRO DE HEREDIA CENTRO COMERCIAL LOS EJECUTIVOS LOCAL 66 5 56517423 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA MANGA CARRERA 20 and 24-156 LOCAL 1,2,3 EDIFICIO LUNA MAR 5 6517429 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA AVENIDA SAN MARTIN CARRERA 2 and. 11 - 41 5 6517425 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

CARTAGENA BANCA PERSONAL CARTAGENA CARRERA 2 and. 11 - 41 5 6517430 8:00 a. M a 11:30 a. M - 2:00 p. M a 4:30 pm.

[URL]https://www.bbva.com.co/content/dam/public-web/colombia/documents/home/header/oficinas/DO-01-Listado-cajeros-automaticos.pdf[/URL]

Convenient ATMs in Cartagena:

El Laguito: Almirante Brilon 2-110.

Bocagrande: Cra 3 8-06.

ATM-OFICINA SAN MARTIN CRA 2 NO 11-33 L-102.

Within the walls:

CLL 32 4-65 L.

Got damn! I am glad that I have Charles Schwab and do not have to go through all of this shit. This looks like some damn Abstract Math class. All I do is stick my card in to get money and keep it moving.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2413115]May it depend on the debit card used to withdraw?

I have a Maestro card, and I am *nearly* (not 100%) sure that, at least in my case, the exchange rate does not change with the ATM, but it is always +1. 5/+1. 75% the daily rate shown on XE or Yahoo. I did this check a few times in the past, and I am going to do that again.

That +1. 5/+1. 75% is applied by MasterCard, but on top of that of course the bank wishes to earn something (the fixed fee applied by most).[/QUOTE]There's a Davivienda ATM there in Laguito near you; it's on your side of the street in front of the Hilton, right there next to the little security attendant building at the end of the sidewalk before the Hilton. Try it and then you tell me what type of exchange rate you get. Betcha 150-mil session with the girl of one's choosing that it's not the same exchange rate you'll get at BBVA or CAJA SOCIAL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2413230]Got damn! I am glad that I have Charles Schwab and do not have to go through all of this shit. This looks like some damn Abstract Math class. All I do is stick my card in to get money and keep it moving.[/QUOTE]The fee may be cooked into the actual withdrawal. I noticed this with Bancolombia. They don't actually tell you what the fee is. You end up paying a few mil pesos over the exchange rate.

In any case, I'm going to make this easy on everyone. Money changers will take a big commission (10% or more). Most bank machines will charge you 1-2% in fees and exchange rate commission. You're looking at paying 5 bucks on a 200 dollar withdrawal at the end of the day. It's not an insane amount. You're going to get fucked a little. There's no real way around it.

I use Davivienda and Bancolombia myself.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2413313]
In any case, I'm going to make this easy on everyone. Money changers will take a big commission (10% or more). Most bank machines will charge you 1-2% in fees and exchange rate commission.[/QUOTE]So we are back to the short answer that has been given so many times already:

1) Use ATM, never money changers.

2) ANY ATM will be much better than ANY money changer.

Second-order considerations on fees, surcharges changing with the specific ATM or bank will change the picture by few bucks. Since most of us is going to burn many hundreds dollars for pussy, it is really not much worth to work to save 5 dollars.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2413230]Got damn! I am glad that I have Charles Schwab and do not have to go through all of this shit. This looks like some damn Abstract Math class. All I do is stick my card in to get money and keep it moving.[/QUOTE]Yes everyone should just get Charles Schwab and Navy Federal Credit Union (If your military). Makes this shit soo much easier plus you get your money back. I think Navy Fed gives you like up to 25 dollars back and Charles Schwab I think gives everything back.

So as you will see in my previous post I'm the guy that got stolen from by two chicas after a threesome. One or both of them basically stole any little small items around the room they could fit in their tiny little purses. I "kinda" learned my lesson on watching the chicas tighter. I I say kinda because I'll explain in my closing. The problem is I left out an additional learning experience!! This is something this board never talks about! Remember these guys come on here and post their experiences and ideas and findings! But they are just like the Chicas! You do not know them and their intentions! That guy that messages you to "meet up for a beer". Should be treated with the same distance as the chicas! You do not know who they are in with, or their intent with you once those beers turn into shots!! Let me elaborate on my experience this exact same night with a board member.

I met a guy from Cali that messaged me talking about he sees my post and we are similar blah blah and we should meet as we will be there at the same time. 1st impression was solid! Good guy ready to help me nail down this girls. Hung out with him during the day at the beach. I had a chick come through that in my opinion was a 8 but he loved her. We all three were at the beach and he kinda was the 3rd wheel as his chica was busy. I don't do drugs. But he kept insinuating that he wanted to take her back to his place to smoke. I thought it was odd he would even suggest it but I blew it off. After hours at Playa Hollywood, my chica was ready for sex and she gave me the look of lets go to the hotel. Oddly he wanted to walk "with" us to my hotel even though his hotel was 10 minutes the opposite direction. He literally came in and stood around the family room making a drink. He eventually realized nothing was happening until he left and said I'll split and message you later. I took a mental note if that but because he was seemingly a good guy the rest of the time I gave him a shrug as we did drink a lot on the beach. The next day we hung out and even went to the Space together. Both met chicks and separated. Great wingman that could interpret everything to the chicas for me. Hahaha so the final night I planned on waking up and going to Medellin. He knew I was leaving tomorrow and we planned on partying hard. Well we did. But shit got weird! He wanted a foursome. Including me!! He was really cool at first but then as the night progressed he got really drunk and became ridiculously pushy. He insisted I have a foursome. Originally he had one girl and I had the other and there was another guy that we met that had a girl. The problem was that he liked my chica better than his. So he kept insinuating he wanted to get them back to his apartment, get them drunk and high and then have a foursome. First I don't do drugs. Not my thing so I was already out. 2. The chica I had was absolutely beautiful and I personally wasn't looking for the share a hole experience with another guy. We had a table. Girls everywhere, and he kept saying you ready? Let's take these girls home now! I replied nah I'm chilling I'm not ready yet. The girl saw I wasn't interested and told me about 5 times she wasn't either but she would if that's what I wanted. I didn't and I told her that. . Which I didn't. He might have asked me 15 more times " why don't you want to have an orgy tonite. I responded "because it's my duck, I get to control what it experiences, not you! I'm not into that shit. He did not like that answer. His response would be "why not". Then the girl he would whisper in his girls ear. Seconds later she is touching me and asking me for an orgy hahaha. Then she whispered to her friend who was obviously down to do whatever was requested of her. But I'm not a Chica!! I do what I want. I'm not for sale hahaha they are! The chica I was with whispered to me. I do not want sex from that man but I need money so if you will take me tonight I want just you without him. I smiled and said don't worry, that's not happening regardless. So as he continued to make it awkward for everyone insisting we leave the club now and go do it. I finally got pissed and said, listen. I have no interest in doing this, I don't care about these girls, if you want them, you can take both of them!! But I'm not coming. He responded "she won't come unless you do. So just come and then once we are all there you can leave. What the $# at &. Why would I do that. And then what. Go back to see if I can find any leftovers in the club or clocktower? GTFOOH. The third monger er was in tears laughing at this guy and kept knee nudging me when I was telling him to pretty much go $# at & hisself. LOL. I told him bro give me your portion of this tab and I'm out. I'm. Now this guy spoke very clear and educated the last two days. His response was (in some new found California accent) . " man what's wrong with you blood. We are on vacation, don't you want to experience this Blood. We could have an orgy Blood". My simple response was no. Let me have the money. LOL. He hands it to me. That's when it got awkward. . I said again bro, you can have them both I'll find someone here but I ain't leaving with you bottom line. !! And he looked me dead in my eye and said "I want you there". 😳. . I'm not calling him Gay. Now I don't know what fetish he had or why he wanted me in the room so bad but I wanted nothing to do with it. He said " this could be our end to a good trip together with this odd ass glaze in his eyes. "I want you there with me in that room. " I looked at my chica and said Imma head out hahaha hahaha you're more than welcome to come or stay with him and her. She said hell no. I'm coming with you without her. I spoke to the other guy that joined who witnessed everything. When chica and I left to get in the taxi her friend comes running behind us begging to come. She said he's crazy!! He's saying it's my fault I didn't persuade you two to have the orgy. Please can I come! Pleaseee! Don't leave me with him! She was decent so I agreed she could come. Fuck it why not. The beautiful one agreed to 150.000 pesos free for her friend. So I agreed and was winning. Two hot Venezuela chicks with tight skirts and bolt ONS and curves. When we got back to my place we had an amazing threesome. I mean the whole enjoying one from the back while the other was sitting on her back using her tongue all over my body. I mean it was top notch for hours straight. Same condom on both girls. No breaks in service. I'd release and they would touch each other until I joined back in. Porn star level. The problem happened when the girls were preparing to leave. The whole shower and changing back into their clothes in the different mirrors left them opportunities to steal random items laying around. One girl in the bathroom showering while the other in the kitchen making drinks and calling a cab. The swiping was so fast it's unbelievable. Being that the one girl was the only one that got paid. Her friend probably felt the need to make her own Money back in some way hahaha. She sole maybe $70 worth of small items (Alexa dot, automatic toothbrush, fake watch, and t-shirt) hahaha in trade for the best threesome I've ever had, and I've had my fair share. Now don't get me wrong I thoroughly was stolen from. And I learned a tiny lesson with chicas. But even more so I learned about these monger friends we find along the way. They can be just as unpredictable too. They might waste your ass or the chicks ass you have with you. Or God knows what else. Remember we come there to fulfill fantasies. You do not know these fellas on here chumming it up! You don't know who these people become when they let the liquor take control. To get stolen from by a chica or two be in the center of some man you don't knows personal fantasy for an orgy with you. I'll probably have another threesome with those two again next week hahahaha! Judge me if you want! IDGAF LOL. I'll world everything down before I let them in hahaha it was that good. That "meet for a beer" guy could ruin everything just as fast as a sticky fingers chica though.

Can anyone say if there is a money changer that takes 5% or less?

There must be at least one?

Don't tell me there's a money changer cartel?

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2413731]So as you will see in my previous post I'm the guy that got stolen from by two chicas after a threesome. One or both of them basically stole any little small items around the room they could fit in their tiny little purses. I "kinda" learned my lesson on watching the chicas tighter. I I say kinda because I'll explain in my closing. The problem is I left out an additional learning experience!! This is something this board never talks about! Remember these guys come on here and post their experiences and ideas and findings! But they are just like the Chicas! You do not know them and their intentions! That guy that messages you to "meet up for a beer". Should be treated with the same distance as the chicas! You do not know who they are in with, or their intent with you once those beers turn into shots!! Let me elaborate on my experience this exact same night with a board member.

I met a guy from Cali that messaged me talking about he sees my post and we are similar blah blah and we should meet as we will be there at the same time. 1st impression was solid! Good guy ready to help me nail down this girls. Hung out with him during the day at the beach. I had a chick come through that in my opinion was a 8 but he loved her. We all three were at the beach and he kinda was the 3rd wheel as his chica was busy. I don't do drugs. But he kept insinuating that he wanted to take her back to his place to smoke. I thought it was odd he would even suggest it but I blew it off. After hours at Playa Hollywood, my chica was ready for sex and she gave me the look of lets go to the hotel. Oddly he wanted to walk "with" us to my hotel even though his hotel was 10 minutes the opposite direction...[/QUOTE]That's hilarious.

But, how did you not figure it out at the beach? A good wingman knows when it's time to disappear. Even a bad wingman knows to go away when you tell him "see you later. I'm taking this girl back to my place."

Why did you hang out through all the crap at Space? You had your girl. You simply say "we're leaving. Have fun", and get in a taxi. From this side of the screen it was immediately obvious something wasn't right.

I've met up with a lot of guys from the board. Some were good hangouts, some we just didn't click. Some became good friends. You just need to learn when it's time to walk away.

JJbee62,

So true. It's one of those go with your gut things. I've met some super cool guys on here that I talk to every trip. So odd because I genuinely looked at him as cool just different. I own 3 bars so I'm used to meeting people and partying with random people. Usually because everyone wants free drinks hahaha but I've seen worse people in my industry hahahah but it went from suspect. To full fledge the opposite of the type of person I surround myself with. It reminded me why I normally travel alone. Again not sure what his fetishes or sexuality desires were but they were not inine with mine. I personally do not want another naked man in bed with me rather there is a girl there or not. I don't want to wonder if he is looking at my ass when I'm hammering her. I watch my porn with the volume down just so I don't hear a man grunt hahah. Last thing I want is it in HI Def Adobe 3 feet away! Funny how he pulled out this side on my last night with him. I can't. Still haven't read his 7 text messages or voicemails from the next day.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2413918]That's hilarious.

But, how did you not figure it out at the beach? A good wingman knows when it's time to disappear. Even a bad wingman knows to go away when you tell him "see you later. I'm taking this girl back to my place."

Why did you hang out through all the crap at Space? You had your girl. You simply say "we're leaving. Have fun", and get in a taxi. From this side of the screen it was immediately obvious something wasn't right.

I've met up with a lot of guys from the board. Some were good hangouts, some we just didn't click. Some became good friends. You just need to learn when it's time to walk away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2413749]Can anyone say if there is a money changer that takes 5% or less?

There must be at least one?

Don't tell me there's a money changer cartel?[/QUOTE]Wishful thinking, since banks everywhere take at least 5% on exchanges. I use my credit cards whenever I can and have it charged in the foreign currency. Depending on the credit card, I may get hit with a 3% conversion or none at all by the USA Bank behind the credit card. In Colombia, the currency fluctuates a lot. On November 30,2019, the rate was 3512 CP to 1 USD. When I was there the first week of January, the rate was 3250 CP. Yesterday, it was 3315 CP. The money exchangers in Colombia are probably hedging against the fluctuation.

It is scary how much dumb infor there is about getting your money in Colombia. It is a no brainer on this end. What your bank in the USA Does is what it does. Capone 360 is free. Free means no charges to get your money. Free means zero.

On this end. So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!

For some reason people on the site keep giving you stupid advice and never change their ways. If you follow my lead you will pay NO ATM fees. You will sometimes receive MORE than the x-rate. But never less than 50 pesos off the rate in my experience.

And, answering another weird question. Visa / Mastercard (and probably no USA Bank is going to have a daily limit lower than the Colombian ATM limit).

Just do it.

[QUOTE=OldParr;2414254]I am going to be in Cartagena on Sunday and was wondering what the best way to change dollars into pesos is, since it has been quite a while since I last was in Cartagena? Also is there still ATM's in Laguito and Bocagrande or do you suggest going to the old city?

If I do go the route of a ATM what ATM's give the best rate? And where exactly are the located?

The same question applies to casas de cambio. Where do I go to find the best rate?

Thank you for helping me out![/QUOTE]You'll have to get with PirateMorgan on that. He's declared that anyone who doesn't follow his exact advice on ATM usage is stupid and endangering the very fabric of society. I'd hate to contradict him on this and endanger the existence of the universe.

Otherwise I'd suggest using ATMs as your best bet. You'll have to check with him to learn what phase of the moon is best and whether or not you need to sacrifice a goat before making a withdrawal.

Are you sure you read this forum. Or do you just ask questions? I think I have seen it all now. As in READ THE LAST TWO POSTS.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2414191]On this end. So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!

For some reason people on the site keep giving you stupid advice and never change their ways. If you follow my lead you will pay NO ATM fees. You will sometimes receive MORE than the x-rate. But never less than 50 pesos off the rate in my experience.
[/QUOTE]The verdict is in mfs. I arrived in Bogota last night and the first thing I saw when I came out of the bathroom downstairs after immigration was a damn Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM (I can't recall ever seeing one in my life). I had to see what it was about. I stuck my Schwab card in and it gave me the option of withdrawing 20 K. I guess that was the sucker option because I declined that, then the real amounts popped up. The highest was 900,000, which I chose. Then for some reason I did it all over again knowing full well that my dumb ass always uses my Amex Platinum in these parts. It will probably take me over 1 year to get rid of these 1.8 million pesos.

So with each 900,000 pesos that I took out, $273 came out of my account for an exchange rate of 3296.70. There was a sign that popped up on the ATM saying that if you are using an international card, any fees that you get will be the ones charged by your bank.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414304]

So with each 900,000 pesos that I took out, $273 came out of my account for an exchange rate of 3296.70. There was a sign that popped up on the ATM saying that if you are using an international card, any fees that you get will be the ones charged by your bank.[/QUOTE]USD in COP shows to be 3326 right now. That's not a bad deal.

BTW, can I point out the obvious to folks who don't get it already. No one is going to exchange the money, bank or cambio, for 0% fee. There's always a fee cooked in.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414304]The verdict is in mfs. I arrived in Bogota last night and the first thing I saw when I came out of the bathroom downstairs after immigration was a damn Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM (I can't recall ever seeing one in my life). I had to see what it was about. I stuck my Schwab card in and it gave me the option of withdrawing 20 K. I guess that was the sucker option because I declined that, then the real amounts popped up. The highest was 900,000, which I chose. Then for some reason I did it all over again knowing full well that my dumb ass always uses my Amex Platinum in these parts. It will probably take me over 1 year to get rid of these 1.8 million pesos.

So with each 900,000 pesos that I took out, $273 came out of my account for an exchange rate of 3296.70. There was a sign that popped up on the ATM saying that if you are using an international card, any fees that you get will be the ones charged by your bank.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr E. I will be arriving in Cartagena for the first time on Tuesday and will try to find one of these ATM's in the airport on the way in to load up on cash. Wells Fargo will still charge me $5 but not going to change banks over that. I will use my no transaction fee Delta AmX for everything I can because they will give me the current exchange rate.

[URL]https://www.scotiabankcolpatria.com/cajeros/lista-de-cajeros-automaticos[/URL]

TIPO DE CAJERO NOMBRE DIRECCIÓand.

ATM CARTAGENA MANGA Calle Real # 15-21, Barrio Manga.

ATM JUMBO CARTAGENA CARIBE PLAZA Av. El Lago con Cll. 29 be.

ATM ÉXITO CARTAGENA Avenida Pedro de Heredia No. 69 - 75 sector contador.

ATM CARTAGENA MALL PLAZA Avenida Pedro de Heredia Carrera 13 No. 31 A - 65 Loc. 109 al 113.

ATM CARTAGENA BOCAGRANDE CARREA 4 # 6-79.

ATM CENTRO CIAL. LA CASTELLANA CARTAGENA CENTRO COMERCIAL LA CASTELLANA.

ATM BANCA EXPRESS. CENTRO COMERCIAL BOCAGRANDE Carrera 2 # 8-146 Local 119.

ATM BANCA EXPRESS. CENTRO COMERCIAL CARIBE PLAZA Calle 29 D # 22-108.

ATM BANCA EXPRESS. MULTICENTRO LA PLAZUELA Diagonal 31 # 71-130.

ATM BANCA EXPRESS. SUPERCENTRO LOS EJECUTIVOS Avenida Pedro de Heredia Calle 31 # 57-106.

ATM OFICINA CARTAGENA PRINCIPAL 2 Avenida Venezuela / Carlos Escallon.

CDM BANCA EXPRESS. CENTRO COMERCIAL CARIBE PLAZA Calle 29 D # 22-108.

CDM BANCA EXPRESS. MULTICENTRO LA PLAZUELA Diagonal 31 # 71-130.

CDM BANCA EXPRESS. SUPERCENTRO LOS EJECUTIVOS Avenida Pedro de Heredia Calle 31 # 57-106.

MFM BANCA EXPRESS. CENTRO COMERCIAL BOCAGRANDE Carrera 2 # 8-146 Local 119.

MFM OFICINA CARTAGENA PRINCIPAL 1 Avenida Venezuela / Carlos Escallon.

If you know which institution posts it's cash exchange rates on it's website (tasas de cambio, divisas, Compra), please post the link.

I have absolutely no doubt there are competitive exchanges in the city of Cartagena, like in Bogota, I just don't know them yet, and they may be away from Bocagrande. Guess where the folks at cambios get the cash? At the banks.

[QUOTE=OldParr;2414254]I am going to be in Cartagena on Sunday and was wondering what the best way to change dollars into pesos is, since it has been quite a while since I last was in Cartagena? Also is there still ATM's in Laguito and Bocagrande or do you suggest going to the old city?

If I do go the route of a ATM what ATM's give the best rate? And where exactly are the located?

The same question applies to casas de cambio. Where do I go to find the best rate?

Thank you for helping me out![/QUOTE]So there used to be an ATM like 8 buildings down from Hilton on the ocean side of calle 1 b, first it was just a simple walk up when I first stayed in Laguito about 7 years ago, then they turned it into a walk in with a door, but now I am not sure it is still there, but there is a new (ish) ATM, I think it is a Banco Davivienda, it is at the end of the sidewalk just before you cross over to the Hilton Hotel. It is a stand alone ATM but it inside with a door that closes behind you so no one can look over your shoulder. I think it used to be or is connected to some type of guard shack that I think monitors the parking lot next to the Hilton. You go past the last tall building that has that little market where people sit outside and drink package booze, then keep walking past that rock wall / fence to that small brown stone structure at the end of that wall / fence and the ATM is inside that brown stone structure. If someone had not told me it was there I would have missed it. This was the most convenient one for me if I did not want to get in taxi, as I was staying in a building four or five buildings down from the Hilton facing the ocean.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2414297]You'll have to get with PirateMorgan on that. He's declared that anyone who doesn't follow his exact advice on ATM usage is stupid and endangering the very fabric of society. I'd hate to contradict him on this and endanger the existence of the universe.

Otherwise I'd suggest using ATMs as your best bet. You'll have to check with him to learn what phase of the moon is best and whether or not you need to sacrifice a goat before making a withdrawal.[/QUOTE]Haha, how true!

Lmao.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414304]The verdict is in mfs. I arrived in Bogota last night and the first thing I saw when I came out of the bathroom downstairs after immigration was a damn Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM (I can't recall ever seeing one in my life). I had to see what it was about. I stuck my Schwab card in and it gave me the option of withdrawing 20 K. I guess that was the sucker option because I declined that, then the real amounts popped up. The highest was 900,000, which I chose. Then for some reason I did it all over again knowing full well that my dumb ass always uses my Amex Platinum in these parts. It will probably take me over 1 year to get rid of these 1.8 million pesos.

So with each 900,000 pesos that I took out, $273 came out of my account for an exchange rate of 3296.70. There was a sign that popped up on the ATM saying that if you are using an international card, any fees that you get will be the ones charged by your bank.[/QUOTE]It's all actually very simple. You use a Schwab card, so at ATMs such as Colpatria / Scotiabank that give you the true exchange rate and don't charge any fees, the only fee you are paying is the 1% fee to the card network. Hence, you received 99%, which in my experience is the best possible outcome.

I'll take your verdict one step further to address whether Colpatria / Scotiabank is the only bank that provides the true exchange rate and doesn't charge any fees on their end. How so? I just pulled 200 k pesos from each of Caja Social, BBVA and Colpatria / Scotiabank this morning, a Saturday when the currency markets are closed. Here is the verdict:

Caja Social this morning, my account was debited $60.96 for the 200 mil COP.

BBVA this morning, my account was debited $60.96 for 200 mil COP.

Drum roll: Colpatria / Scotiabank this morning, my account was debited $60.96 for 200 mil COP.

I pay the same 1% card network fee that you pay with your Schwab card, and I pay an additional 0. 5% to the issuing bank of my card.

I received 3281 pesos per the dollar, which is 98.5% of the USD-COP X-RATE

There you have it, Caja Social, BBVA and Colpatria / Scotiabank as advertised.

The other ATMs and the banks behind them charge a fee, whether hidden or published.*

*Note: Corpbanca is another advertised as "no fee" that I have used in the past, but since I haven't used them in over a year and they weren't included in today's trial, I've intentionally left out and noted here.

[QUOTE=OldParr;2414514]Is there a Scotia Bank in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Yes it is obvious that you are not following the thread carefully but I am going to jump in here because it is Saturday and I am a little bored. It is my understanding that Scotia Bank bought a controlling share of a Colombian bank called Banco Multibanca Colpatria. Hence PirateMorgan's referral to Scotia Bank / Colpatria in the posts that he has made in regard to their "free" ATMs, including the one where he says if you go anywhere else you do not have the sense that God gave a pigeon and you are Stupid Stupid Stupid (okay PirateMorgan did not say that exactly, I am paraphrasing and adding some extra stupids). In Questner's post he supplied addresses to these Scotia Bank / Colpatria locations. I am going to take this one step further and give you directions and draw a picture (because I already told you that it is Saturday and I am a little bored sitting here waiting for my UberEats order and listening to Santana).

The only part I am confused about is whether or not every branch / ATM of Colpatria is a Scotia Bank / Colpatria. PirateMorgan stated in his post ". You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different".

I cannot find any information that says that these two entities (Scotia Bank and Banco Colpatria) operate as separate banks. When I change the regional search in Google to Colombia and I search Banco Colpatria. I get [URL]www.scotiabankcolpatria.com[/URL] - The wikipedia article for Scotia Bank states that they "merged" operations with Banco Colpatria. So I am not sure why PirateMorgan says that they are different but he must have his reasons. So I am going to point out this location with that grain of salt that I am not 100% sure that it is a Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is for sure a Colpatria.

This location is convenient to the Clock Tower. If you exit Plaza de Los Coches to the left (Northeast) of the clocktower where the wall ends you come out by Avenida Venezuela and turn left, on the opposite side of Avenida Venezuela than clocktower and about 450 feet (northeast) from where the wall ends (clock tower monument section of the wall) there is a Banco Colpatria. I say it is on the opposite side of Avenida Venezuela but technically it is on Carrera 9a becasause Carrera 9a splits off at this point although you can't really tell except that the road splits into three lanes and there is another row of those chunks of yellow concrete median things to seperate the lanes. I am including photos of how it looks when you are approaching and from the front (photos not necessarily in that order) because the signage is not obvious until you are right in front of it, and even then the signage is not obvious because it is still a little obscured by the concrete awning looking thing sticking off the front of the building.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2414302]Are you sure you read this forum. Or do you just ask questions? I think I have seen it all now. As in READ THE LAST TWO POSTS.[/QUOTE]Right hand meet left hand, LOL.

That 'ole UrbanWildlife sure did "bring it" back-in-the day when it came to providing useful and accurate information about the Northern Coast of Colombia, especially Rodadero and Santa Marta.

He sure knew his stuff!

Pirate, you are correct about Colpatria / Scotiabank, and it is one that I had never used in the past. Thanks to you I've added it to BBVA and Caja Social as ATMs down here that are true "no fee" ATMs. Much appreciated.

As you know, using the more popular ones like Davivienda (the worst in my experience), Servibanca and Bancolombia adds up for guys like you who spend a considerable amount of time in Colombia in any given year, year after year.

I don't have to tell you this, but for the benefit of those who continually want to say that it's too much trouble to walk across the street to save the difference, I can provide an example (I've got a little time here while the coffee is brewing):

Doing a quick scan, I found one occasion in 2019 where I used a either a BBVA or Caja Social on a Saturday or Sunday (currency markets closed so no fluctuation in rate after the Friday close), and then used a Davivienda or Servibanca later on that same night. Why did I use either of those two later in a night? Because I was out and about with no plans to spend pesos, ran into a working girl while out (Cartagena) or decided to go to casa (Barranquilla). In each instance I wasn't taking them back to my digs, but instead a love motel or on-site.

Here's the difference: USD-COP X-RATE = 3346; BBVA gives me 3296 pesos, which is the 98.5% I expect (1% to the card network and 0. 5% to my issuing bank); Servibanca gives me 2987 pesos, which is 89.3%. I withdrew their max of 720 mil pesos.

I also found where I used a Daviviendo in the early morning of Nov. 7th (before currency markets had opened) in Barranquilla. USD-COP X-Rate closed at 3308 on Nov 6th. Daviviendo gave me 2899 pesos, which is 87.6%. I withdrew the max of 900 mil pesos.

So for guys like Pirate Morgan who spend a considerable amount of time in Colombia year-after-year, it can make a considerable difference to walk a block or two to pull from a true "no fee" ATM.

Assume one spends on average 2,000 USD a month in pesos (currency) and is there all 12 months of the year or travels to Colombia each and every month. Not hard to do for a guy who pays for everything in pesos, such as his landlord.

$24,000 USD a year and you get to choose receiving 98.5% of the true exchange rate by walking across the street to Colpatria / Scotiabank, BBVA or Caja Social, or receive around 88 or 89% by taking the "who cares it's just a few pesos" attitude espoused by some.

That 10% difference in just one year = lots of dinners at El Santisimo for Black Page and lots of Black Jack sessions for YippyKayay, even though they may only visit 3 to 6 times a year.

Now take that over 10 years, and well Pirate, I know you for one get the picture.

How about the one time monger coming to Cartagena who will pull the equivalent of $1,000 USD out during his one and only visit? Black Page and YippyKayay have suggested or implied that it's too much trouble and / or doesn't amount to enough to make a difference.

$1000 USD x 3333 pesos (this past Friday's closing X-Rate) = 3,333,000 Colombian Pesos. Go to Servibanca or Daviviendo and get clipped an additional 9 or 10% (compared to Colpatria/Scotiabank, BBVA, Caja Social) = 300 to 333 mil pesos = 2 sessions with a most any chica of your selection.

So to the one-time visiting monger out there, it may not be worth your time to walk across the street or a block to get two sessions with a chica for free, but if it is, you'll use one of the true "no fee" ATMs as suggested by Pirate or myself.

Pirate, thanks again for letting me know about Colpatria / Scotiabank. It's always handy to know another true "no fee" ATM. If you or Old Parr run into Urban Wildlife, send my regards for a happy, healthy and prosperous new year!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2413313]

I'm going to make this easy on everyone. Money changers will take a big commission (10% or more). Most bank machines will charge you 1-2% in fees and exchange rate commission. You're looking at paying 5 bucks on a 200 dollar withdrawal at the end of the day. It's not an insane amount. You're going to get fucked a little. There's no real way around it.

I use Davivienda and Bancolombia myself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2413391]So we are back to the short answer that has been given so many times already:

1) Use ATM, never money changers.

2) ANY ATM will be much better than ANY money changer.

Second-order considerations on fees, surcharges changing with the specific ATM or bank will change the picture by few bucks. Since most of us is going to burn many hundreds dollars for pussy, it is really not much worth to work to save 5 dollars.[/QUOTE]Hey, Black Page and YippeeKayay.

Greetings! Wishing both of you a happy new year and safe travels!

You both do a great job week-after-week taking the time to provide many of the visitors (especially the first time visitor) to Cartagena helpful information. Kudos to both of you.

I don't spend much time on the forum (look at my number of posts over the 11 or so years of posting), but when I do, I always see both of you helping out many a monger and / or new visitor.

I've highlighted a post from each of you that I'd like to see if I can get you to consider the flip side of the coin and not be so hard-headed. Now Black Page, you and I both know you can dig in your heels and not budge on something, LOL. YippeeKayay, you may have a similar personality to Black Page, but I can't say like I can for Black Page.

The topic is the response provided to guys who come here seeking information about finding the best currency exchange house in Cartagena.

I've kept quiet, but given that you both keep beating the same drum over and over, I thought I'd point this out:

Since the two of you use ATMs such as Davivienda, Servibanca and Bancolombia (per your own recent posts), you are getting clipped pretty much or almost the same as the guys who take cash to a currency exchange house.

The guys who bring currency down to exchange most often do so for a reason. It could be that they receive cash for services rendered back home and don't want to put that money into a checking account for whatever reason. It could be that they don't want a traceable transaction history on a debit card or credit card in Colombia for their own various reasons. I mean each guy has his own reasons; let's not always assume that he doesn't know he'd be better off using say a Schwab card at Colpatria / Scotiabank, BBVA or Caja Social.

To the guys who inquire about the best Currency Exchange place in town, obviously the one at the airport will be on the worst end of it, so you may want to exchange for only what's necessary for the first day's expenses. Again, that's assuming that finding a change house that'll get you an additional say 2 - 4% better than the airport makes a difference over the course of your stay.

If you are staying in Bocagrande or Laguito (someone else can speak for it if you are staying elsewhere), you'll have a handful or so Currency Exchange places within walking distance of your apartment. Ask a few of them what their rate is that day and use the best one. If you are exchanging more than a few hundred dollars or so, you can often negotiate a little better rate than the one they first quoted you. If a subsequent change house quotes you an exchange rate for less than the previous house, show him or tell him what the previous house quoted you and ask him to beat it. Remember, you're in Cartagena, so not accepting the first quote and asking for a better rate (negotiating) is commonplace.

If you are renting a place from Juan or Mery, they both have been changing dollars week-in and week-out for over 15+ years and can tell you which one they typically use or think provides the best rate.

OK looks like I got all the info I'll need on ATM's. Now can anybody please tell me exactly where I can find this Tony Montana character on the beach. I'll be staying right near there on the ocean front next week. I don't mind paying an extra $15 (price of a good cocktail here in San Diego) if he can bring me what I'm looking in a for in chicas and guarantee a BBBJ and overall good service. I would also maybe have some recourse with him if things do not go well or something gets stolen?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2414868]

If you are staying in Bocagrande or Laguito (someone else can speak for it if you are staying elsewhere), you'll have a handful or so Currency Exchange places within walking distance of your apartment. Ask a few of them what their rate is that day and use the best one. If you are exchanging more than a few hundred dollars or so, you can often negotiate a little better rate than the one they first quoted you. If a subsequent change house quotes you an exchange rate for less than the previous house, show him or tell him what the previous house quoted you and ask him to beat it. Remember, you're in Cartagena, so not accepting the first quote and asking for a better rate (negotiating) is commonplace.

If you are renting a place from Juan or Mery, they both have been changing dollars week-in and week-out for over 15+ years and can tell you which one they typically use or think provides the best rate.[/QUOTE]Thought I'd add to acknowledge that an Exchange House outside of Laguito or Bocagrande could (may very well) offer a better rate, because I do know that both Juan and Mery go outside of that zone if they have a worthwhile amount of dollars to exchange. They've each mentioned where they (separately) go, but I've never committed it to memory or written it down. On those rare occasions when I've had dollars that I wanted to exchange for pesos (for example, from another monger who I helped out by buying their dollars from them when they were in a pinch, or who paid me their fair share of a split expense in dollars because they didn't have any pesos, etc. ), I did what I described in my previous post (walked around to a few exchange houses in the neighborhood and negotiated the best rate I could get).

The only time or two in all the years/trips where I've had a worthwhile amount of dollars to exchange, I've gone to Juan or Mery or Mery's taxi driver to get pesos for me.

I've also purchased pesos from guys departing that day or the next day who say they most likely will never have any use for the pesos, or when they've won a bunch at the Casino before they depart and would like to have the dollars. Those instances are the win-win situations for both of us!

If you are from Europe use a starling card for no ATM fees or foreign transaction fees abroad and you get the Mastercard exchange rate. Then use bbva or Scotiabank Colpatria for no local fees. That's what I've been doing.

I should be in Cartagena on the 24th for a week.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2413749]Can anyone say if there is a money changer that takes 5% or less?

There must be at least one?

Don't tell me there's a money changer cartel?[/QUOTE]Now back to are regularly scheduled discussion.

Where's all the fucking cono hiding in Cartagena?

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2414885]OK looks like I got all the info I'll need on ATM's. Now can anybody please tell me exactly where I can find this Tony Montana character on the beach. I'll be staying right near there on the ocean front next week. I don't mind paying an extra $15 (price of a good cocktail here in San Diego) if he can bring me what I'm looking in a for in chicas and guarantee a BBBJ and overall good service. I would also maybe have some recourse with him if things do not go well or something gets stolen?[/QUOTE]

Okay, if you insist. Go to Playa Hollywood. If he hasn't already spotted you first, then ask one of the locals to point out Tony #1. Do you want to confirm that you have the Tony that you're seeking or a totally different Tony? Then watch the below video and at 2 minutes and 25 seconds in to 2 minutes and 45 seconds is the Tony that you seek:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGd8sxqmsa4&feature=player_detailpage[/URL]

Now you know what Tony looks like and won't be misled by one of his many impostors, lol.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2414954]Okay, if you insist. Go to Playa Hollywood. If he hasn't already spotted you first, then ask one of the locals to point out Tony #1. Do you want to confirm that you have the Tony that you're seeking or a totally different Tony? Then watch the below video and at 2 minutes and 25 seconds in to 2 minutes and 45 seconds is the Tony that you seek:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGd8sxqmsa4&feature=player_detailpage[/URL]

Now you know what Tony looks like and won't be misled by one of his many impostors, lol.[/QUOTE]How about the puta rates on the beach?

Or was he talking in code?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2414857]Right hand meet left hand, LOL.

That 'ole UrbanWildlife sure did "bring it" back-in-the day when it came to providing useful and accurate information about the Northern Coast of Colombia, especially Rodadero and Santa Marta.

He sure knew his stuff!







Pirate, thanks again for letting me know about Colpatria / Scotiabank. It's always handy to know another true "no fee" ATM. If you or Old Parr run into Urban Wildlife, send my regards for a happy, healthy and prosperous new year![/QUOTE]Aha ole Urbanwildlife man who was a true monger with a wealth of info.

Not only that but a man who in CTG I saw party hard for 3 nights almost non stop.

Who knows when we see him again?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2414954]Okay, if you insist. Go to Playa Hollywood. If he hasn't already spotted you first, then ask one of the locals to point out Tony #1. Do you want to confirm that you have the Tony that you're seeking or a totally different Tony? Then watch the below video and at 2 minutes and 25 seconds in to 2 minutes and 45 seconds is the Tony that you seek:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGd8sxqmsa4&feature=player_detailpage[/URL]

Now you know what Tony looks like and won't be misled by one of his many impostors, lol.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hill. If Tony can weed the chicas out for me it will save hunting time. I'm only interested in a certain type (muy guapa). I'm also thinking that the chicas he brings are less likely to pull some shit knowing that it will get back to Tony that they are un problema.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2415013]Thanks Hill. If Tony can weed the chicas out for me it will save hunting time. I'm only interested in a certain type (muy guapa). I'm also thinking that the chicas he brings are less likely to pull some shit knowing that it will get back to Tony that they are un problema.[/QUOTE]If you're going to seek out Tony then it behooves you to be on your guard. He is notorious for ripping off tourists.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2415013]Thanks Hill. If Tony can weed the chicas out for me it will save hunting time. I'm only interested in a certain type (muy guapa). I'm also thinking that the chicas he brings are less likely to pull some shit knowing that it will get back to Tony that they are un problema.[/QUOTE]Playa Hollywood is about 800 to 1000 feet long, its not a jungle. Tony is only interested helping Tony so there is no guarantee he is going to show you the hottest chicas on the beach, but the ones he thinks he can hustle for the biggest piece of the pesos that you fork over. If I were you then I would do a little hunting first and then if you feel you have exhausted your effort maybe consider Tony but in the meantime I would avoid him like the plague.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415111]Playa Hollywood is about 800 to 1000 feet long, its not a jungle. Tony is only interested helping Tony so there is no guarantee he is going to show you the hottest chicas on the beach, but the ones he thinks he can hustle for the biggest piece of the pesos that you fork over. If I were you then I would do a little hunting first and then if you feel you have exhausted your effort maybe consider Tony but in the meantime I would avoid him like the plague.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan, that's what I will do. I'll talk to him only if I can't find what I'm looking for but if I talk to him he will need to bring me exactly what I want and then it will be worth it to me.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2415222]Sounds like a plan, that's what I will do. I'll talk to him only if I can't find what I'm looking for but if I talk to him he will need to bring me exactly what I want and then it will be worth it to me.[/QUOTE]I've been biting my tongue on this. I have no experience with Tony, or Cartagena, but I think you are holding on to a misconception.

Tony, any pimp, or any tout, isn't in it for a high customer satisfaction rating. They're in it to get the most profit for the least amount of work. He'll bring you whoever he thinks he can get you to take. "Exactly what I want" isn't a concept he is likely to understand. After you tell him what you want, he'll bring something else. When that's not good enough, the price goes up, for exactly what you want. That girl won't be it either. Before you know it, you'll be accepting someone no better than the first girl, who was already overpriced, for 80 k more.

If she's lousy in bed, if she steals from you. He'll offer you a different girl, who is guaranteed to be great, honest, gorgeous, for the same price. He's not going to give you a refund. He's not going to be intimidated if you tell at him. The most he's likely to do, if you stick to your guns from the very beginning, is provide an acceptable girl for a slightly higher price than you expected to pay.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2415222]Sounds like a plan, that's what I will do. I'll talk to him only if I can't find what I'm looking for but if I talk to him he will need to bring me exactly what I want and then it will be worth it to me.[/QUOTE]He once delivered 100% for me after I explained to him exactly what I wanted. He made 50 K form me at the beach and then charged the girl another 50 K out of her rate.

[QUOTE=Questner;2415358]He once delivered 100% for me after I explained to him exactly what I wanted. He made 50 K form me at the beach and then charged the girl another 50 K out of her rate.[/QUOTE]Having used someone similar when I was there -I can tell you that the middle man doesn't add real value unless you can somehow validate that what you are getting is super unique. In my case, whatever Jason pulled (and a few folks in this group have used him) was the same that was available post 9 pm at Centro.

Stayed at the Palmetto Eliptic thru Airbnb. $50 US per night + fees. Visitors allowed to enter between 9 am and 10 pm and stay with you until 2 am. You can register a visitor as your guest before 10 pm and then they can stay overnight. 33 K pesos to register them as your guest.

The first couple days I went to Playa Hollywood between noon and sunset. Girls were around 200 k pesos for one hour. CBJ and sex. Nothing special but seeing them in bikinis upfront was a huge plus. Picked up one girl from Barranquilla and one girl from Medellin. Both were introduced to me by Pedro, one of the waiters that works for the original Tony Montana, the owner of the bar on Playa Hollywood. Pedro doubled the price of drinks, added a service charge, intro charge for the girl, chair charge and a tip. Total usually came out to100 k to 150 k pesos. I would give him half what he wrote down. He would bring girls to me and I would say yes or no until he found one I liked. Sometimes he would run all over the beach for an hour bringing me girls. I worked out a deal with one of the girls for 200 k then she told me Pedro was charging her 50 k so she asked for 250 k. Pedro also took 100 k from me for 5 beers (1 he added for himself without asking me) and intro. So the below post about 50 k from the girl and 50 k from the customer seems right. All the girls offered their number so if you really want to avoid the intro fee you can just leave and text the girl on WhatsApp later. Also, most of the girls weren't local and didn't know Tony or Pedro. So if you think these "Tony's" have any pull over the girls you're wrong. Most of the girls were new or staying for a week in Cartagena then going home. I tried the beach in front of the Intercontinental and right before Playa Hollywood. The waiters offered the same thing, to bring girls but they would have to call and you would have to wait. So if you don't want to wait you can go to Playa Hollywood, which will have around 7 girls. I paid the intro fee to sit under an umbrella with a cold beer and have girls brought to me. And to avoid offending a non-working girl or worse someone's daughter / GF. Some of the girls will smile and come to you on their own.

I also used photosprepagados and millieroticos to message girls thru Whats App using a translator. 120 k to 250 k pesos for one hour. BBBJ, COB, COF, sex and anal. Easier than Playa Hollywood but you don't get to actually see the girl. Most of the fotos were real with some photoshop. Maybe 20 girls actually responding. Wish they had Smooci here. There was a Venezuelan group with an incall in Cabrero for 170 k pesos and outcall to Bocagrande for 200 k that had lots of skinny young girls that would do everything. They were great and I saw three of their girls.

At night I went to Torre Del Reloj, Dulce Vita and Space between 10 pm and 3 am. Best looking girls were in Dulce Vita and Space but I also saw them at TDR. 200 k to 250 k pesos for one hour plus 50 k for a motel. You'll need your passport or driver's license or other ID to use the motel, a photo on your phone or paper copy works. All the girls offered their number or Instagram if you want to set up a date for later or during the day. At TDR a guy tried to shake my hand and then tried to steal my watch, so be careful. Some of the younger kids in TDR were also trying to act as security guards for 100 k pesos per hour and starting trouble if you didn't agree. After those issues I decided to skip TDR and just go straight to the clubs. My only complaint about the clubs were too many people. No room to move and no way to really talk to a girl.

10 k pesos for a taxi to / from Bocagrande to the clubs or TDR. On my last night one of the taxi drivers asked for 20 k. When I told him 10 k he tried to palm my 10 k peso note and tell me I only gave him 5 k. So again be careful.

Used bbva and Scotia Colpatria to withdraw cash. Bbva is 300k per withdrawal. It cut me off after 900k. Not sure if that is the daily limit or a bank error. Scotia Colpatria is 900k per withdrawal up to 2.7M per day. No fee.

I don't negotiate with the girl unless she asks for something crazy. (One girl asked for $200 US but took 200 k pesos) To me, an extra 50 k to 100 k pesos isn't worth losing or offending the girl. I'm fortunate enough to not need the money.

My 2 cents for anyone interested, this was my second trip and most likely my last. Visited Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, and Bogota last year. Bogota's strip clubs were great but Bogota is too cold with nothing else to do. Not enough girls to choose from in the other cities, maybe 100 total at all the bars and clubs combined. Colombia is also still too rough (too many crooks) and they don't speak enough English. I took Spanish in high school and college but still prefer traveling to places where I can speak English. I can meet the same girls in Tijuana for the same price and they speak English. Hong Kong Strip Club in Tijuana probably has 100 girls by itself on the weekends. And for around the same price I can get a girl in Asia for multiple hours or all night. And I can stay at a 5 star hotel and bring the girl to my room without any problems. And in 10 years of visiting Asia I haven't been robbed or threatened once. The pool of girls is around 1000 in Pattaya, Bangkok and Angeles each. There are better and easier places to find girls. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2415599]At TDR a guy tried to shake my hand and then tried to steal my watch, so be careful. Some of the younger kids in TDR were also trying to act as security guards for 100 k pesos per hour and starting trouble if you didn't agree. After those issues I decided to skip TDR and just go straight to the clubs. My only complaint about the clubs were too many people. No room to move and no way to really talk to a girl.
[/QUOTE]At the Torre Del Reloj you need to completely ignore any male who approaches you. Waste of time, waste of money, waste of everything. I just shake my head and ignore them. They go away.

I agree about the clubs being packed. Before there were three clubs but Elektra shut down. Ever since the clubs are so full you can barely move around them. The nice thing about the plaza is you get to collect a lot of numbers. It's far more laid back than the clubs which I avoid.

You didn't mention Isis which is a strip joint on the same street. I only pulled once from there. It was 300 k including the motel fee for a place around the corner.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2415660] Before there were three clubs but Elektra shut down. Ever since the clubs are so full you can barely move around them. The nice thing about the plaza is you get to collect a lot of numbers. It's far more laid back than the clubs which I avoid.[/QUOTE]And before that LDV was in Laguito and like three times the size with 180 degree bar, some breathing room, and room to maneuver. But I'm just an old geezer being nostalgic about the Good Old Days.

Hey guys,

Did a quick search on the forum and didn't see any info. What's the going rate for CIM in Cartagena? If anyone knows the rates in Medellin and Bogota, I'd be interested as well. I asked the people at La Celestina and they said 250! I'm hoping that's not the norm. In Tijuana its $20 USD. I can understand charging more since Colombia it sounds like CBJ is the norm unless you pay extra, whereas in Tijuana BBBJ is the norm. Thanks!

Hey guys,

What's the going rate for CIM in CTG? If anyone knows Medellin or Bogota, also appreciated. I messaged La Celestina and they wanted $250 k! Couldn't believe it. I know Colombians prefer CBJ as the norm, but in Tijuana BBBJ is the norm and CIM is $20 extra. Thanks!

If you insist on going to playa Hollywood beware of the usual crap from Tony or any other tout. A club Colombia is 5 k. But the mixed drinks are about 25 k. So be careful when they offer to get drinks for themselves or girls. When you get the inflated tab at the end just stand firm and pay the correct amount. I still tip a bit even though they will shamelessly try to screw you at every turn.

Anyone know of any love motels in manga?

If not, how do the drive in love motels work up north in Daniel Lamietre? I'm in CTG for two months with my girl and need a short time spot.

[QUOTE=JLebowski27;2415795]Hey guys,
What's the going rate for CIM in CTG? If anyone knows Medellin or Bogota, also appreciated. I messaged La Celestina and they wanted $250 k! Couldn't believe it.[/QUOTE]If you take the time to read a bit, you will understand that CTG is not a supermarket where all items are priced consistently and openly. Each girl is different, each experience different, prices depend on mutual understanding and chemistry.

You should also understand that such reply you got actually meant "Get away from here".

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2415660]I agree about the clubs being packed. Before there were three clubs but Elektra shut down.[/QUOTE]Really? I am going back to CTG in mid February. Again Elektra closed? So currently what are the places to go after hour? Only "EPPEIS" (Space)?

Do you have a recent update? Thanks.

LDV, Space, Isis should be open (?) BTW Playa Blanca is closed for 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2416192]Really? I am going back to CTG in mid February. Again Elektra closed? So currently what are the places to go after hour? Only "EPPEIS" (Space)?

Do you have a recent update? Thanks.[/QUOTE]LDV, Space, and Isis. That's pretty much it. You're not going to like what happened to LDV or Space. It's far too crowded.

Are you going during the Barranquilla carnival? I'm going right after because last year the chicas had all gone to Barranquilla for the carnival and places like LDV were 90% dudes. I was embarrassed for them.

I heard a rumor that Club Pley has re-opened. A few years ago I had a good experience there. Even though it's pretty far away from the action. Has anyone been recently to confirm that it re-opened? If so, how was it?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2416357]LDV, Space, and Isis. That's pretty much it. You're not going to like what happened to LDV or Space. It's far too crowded.

Are you going during the Barranquilla carnival? I'm going right after because last year the chicas had all gone to Barranquilla for the carnival and places like LDV were 90% dudes. I was embarrassed for them.[/QUOTE]Isis is not my kind of place. I have never put my feet there. LDV has been always home of most demanding girls in town, something like as Gusto in Medellin, except the oldest times when some interesting girl could be met there in Laguito: not my place too.

If Space is too crowded, maybe it could be my place Where to go after 2 am, when girls who did not find someone earlier gather for the last chance of the night. It looks like I will have no other options besides Space and the open range of Reloy.

I will go there after a business meeting in Florida, 1-2 weeks before Carnival. I hope I'll be lucky.

Just arrived yesterday evening, Prices high here compared to rest of Colombia. If you don't offer a price they will tell you $200-300 dollars, when I offered 300-400 cop they would say 500-600 tln and one hour 300. Though I did end the night with 300 k tln with a girl from clocktower / dolce. What are people generally paying here?

ISIS. Strip club but just one pole and most just hanging about like a normal club, 15 girls, high quality, 20 k beer.

Dolce. Goes from empty to packed very quickly around 11 pm, 15 k beer I think? Also some high quality here.

Space. Was empty with 10-15 girls after 11 pm, 10 k beer, as I left people are starting to arrive.

Clocktower. Could be 50 girls after 10 pm, some good ones, some you see in dolce later.

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2416594]Just arrived yesterday evening, Prices high here compared to rest of Colombia. If you don't offer a price they will tell you $200-300 dollars, when I offered 300-400 cop they would say 500-600 tln and one hour 300. Though I did end the night with 300 k tln with a girl from clocktower / dolce. What are people generally paying here?

ISIS. Strip club but just one pole and most just hanging about like a normal club, 15 girls, high quality, 20 k beer.

Dolce. Goes from empty to packed very quickly around 11 pm, 15 k beer I think? Also some high quality here.

Space. Was empty with 10-15 girls after 11 pm, 10 k beer, as I left people are starting to arrive.

Clocktower. Could be 50 girls after 10 pm, some good ones, some you see in dolce later.[/QUOTE]Damn is 1 hour 200 k not an option anymore?

Even though 300 k for tln may seem like a better deal, I'm always paranoid about having someone that I just met for the first time in a foreign country spend the night before getting to know them at all.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2416613]Damn is 1 hour 200 k not an option anymore?

Even though 300 k for tln may seem like a better deal, I'm always paranoid about having someone that I just met for the first time in a foreign country spend the night before getting to know them at all.[/QUOTE]Why are you guys asking them? Why are you mentioning time? Oh please would you fuck me for an hour? PLEASE???

Stop doing that.

Locals pay between 100 k to 150 k in Cartagena for those same women. Stop asking what they want. Stop acting like there's some kind of efficient market place with prices set by market forces. There isn't. Most chicas won't have more than a customer or two per week. They stand around bored for a vast majority of the time. Offer 200 k and most will say yes. If all you want is sex with a condom on 200 k will almost always work.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2416613]Damn is 1 hour 200 k not an option anymore?

Even though 300 k for tln may seem like a better deal, I'm always paranoid about having someone that I just met for the first time in a foreign country spend the night before getting to know them at all.[/QUOTE]The 300 k hour girls I'm talking about are the better looking ones in Space and Dolce, I just took there numbers maybe during the day they might take 200 k st, just at night there after the big payday.

The better looking ones on mileroticos ask for 300 k also.

Time to update the list; there are other options in the city available other than within the old city walls, like [URL]https://www.instagram.com/clublaisla/[/URL].

Not sure where to post this but I figured I'd start here.

I'm looking to change up my areas from Africa to the Latin hemisphere and I'm debating where's the best place to check out. In my part of town, DR (Sosua) is the main spot for a quick 4-5 day romp, however, I've heard that scene is slowly dying down.

My question is this which is the best country if I'm looking for latin women but latin women with big / thick assess / booty preferably all natural. Not a fan of silicon at all.

Colombia, DR, Panama or Costa Rica or even Aruba. These are the main countries I've heard of in this region as having good value for money as well. I'm open to suggestions.

Per the booty size, look up this lady 'Cherokee the'Ass' for reference. I've had good luck finding her types across Africa, I'm wondering if I can find ladies similar to her in a Latin American country. Any help would be appreciated.

At Zakmo: Brazil, Dom Rep and Colombia. More than enough.

Aruba is so small that you won't get much variety. Most of the best women in Panama are from Venezuela or Colombia, and Colombia is much cheaper. On price, Colombia has Costa Rica beaten. 4-star hotels can be had for $40. Good looking women in Santa Fe region of Bogota can be had for $10 to $20. Medellin is about the same, but the weather is better. To me, it is no contest.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2416993]Not sure where to post this but I figured I'd start here.

I'm looking to change up my areas from Africa to the Latin hemisphere and I'm debating where's the best place to check out. In my part of town, DR (Sosua) is the main spot for a quick 4-5 day romp, however, I've heard that scene is slowly dying down.

My question is this which is the best country if I'm looking for latin women but latin women with big / thick assess / booty preferably all natural. Not a fan of silicon at all.

Colombia, DR, Panama or Costa Rica or even Aruba. These are the main countries I've heard of in this region as having good value for money as well. I'm open to suggestions.

Per the booty size, look up this lady 'Cherokee the'Ass' for reference. I've had good luck finding her types across Africa, I'm wondering if I can find ladies similar to her in a Latin American country. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Questner;2417002]At Zakmo: Brazil, Dom Rep and Colombia. More than enough.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip man! I should have caveated, from where I am, flight to Brazil are 1. 5 x the cost of that of Colombia, DR and the rest. Brazil I'd want to do for at least 10 days to make it worth it. The flights to Colombia, DR, Costa Rica etc allow me do a 4-5 day trip with good value.

So removing Brazil from you suggestion it seems like you're saying DR then Colombia? Or is it either DR or Colombia?

DR or Colombia, which would you say do first?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2417024]Aruba is so small that you won't get much variety. Most of the best women in Panama are from Venezuela or Colombia, and Colombia is much cheaper. On price, Colombia has Costa Rica beaten. 4-star hotels can be had for $40. Good looking women in Santa Fe region of Bogota can be had for $10 to $20. Medellin is about the same, but the weather is better. To me, it is no contest.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Good to know. Questner gave some good advice as well.

Next question: In Colombia, which is better to go to (particularly for thick big bottom ladies, natural too) Bogota, Medellin or Cartenega?

Would you say DR or Colombia? Seems like Sosua is far more straight forward while Colombia offers more to do. I'll probably end up going DR and Colombia eventually, just wondering which I should go to first.

A woman like Cherokee the'Ass would be PRIME!

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417034]Thanks man. Good to know. Questner gave some good advice as well.

Next question: In Colombia, which is better to go to (particularly for thick big bottom ladies, natural too) Bogota, Medellin or Cartenega?

Would you say DR or Colombia? Seems like Sosua is far more straight forward while Colombia offers more to do. I'll probably end up going DR and Colombia eventually, just wondering which I should go to first.

A woman like Cherokee the'Ass would be PRIME![/QUOTE]The Tall Man lives in Medellin and has mongered throughout Colombia including Cartagena, Bogota, Cali and other places to name a few.

I have also spent time in the Sue be it about 3 years ago. Read the posts on the Sue (Sosua) in those sections but from what I read things have changed dramatically there. I am glad that I experienced it much the same as when I went to Cuba, glad I went but see no need to return.

Which place should you visit? Hard question as it depends on what kind of experience that your looking for. All things being equal start with Cartagena, yes its a bit more expensive but it will give you a good taste of Colombian women and the city is a cool place to see.

The Tall Man.

I thought there was a link to hotels or apartments but I can't find it. Sorry.

Anyway, can someone recommend a hotel or apartment / condo in Laguito with hot water and 24 hour security.

Many thanks, if not a guess Bocagrande would suffice.

At Zakmo: start with Dom Rep, then graduate to Colombia. Colombia is more expensive, more complicated in my view. Dom Rep is a 'poor man's paradise, Colombia is a branch of a paradise.

What's the best country to go to for black women? Should I go to Kenya or is there plenty in the Colombian cities?

[QUOTE=LivinCrNow;2417266]I thought there was a link to hotels or apartments but I can't find it. Sorry.

Anyway, can someone recommend a hotel or apartment / condo in Laguito with hot water and 24 hour security.

Many thanks, if not a guess Bocagrande would suffice.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]

Have you gone through the thread titled Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments? You might get a broader view than the short responses you get in this thread.

In this post I also give instructions on navigating the forum so to find the thread that has the Hotels and Apartments. Finding an apartment requires careful, somewhat time consuming study. You need to go back and at the very least scan every post from the last year inside the Hotels and Apartment thread. There is a wealth of information here. When you say "I thought there was link... ?" I am not sure what you meant, but this is the closest thing you will find.


[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]

If the link does not work and you are still learning to navigate the forum: To navigate to that thread go to the top of this page and look for something similar to this (the "home" icon and arrows are different on the page than my example because I had to improvise, but you should get the idea) : 🏠 Forum ➡ South America ➡ Colombia ➡ Cartagena Reports.

Within that click on Colombia and that will take you back out of Cartagena Reports and back out to the Colombia Forum, and then you see all the threads listed with in the Colombia Forum, scroll down until you see the thread called "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments". There are many other helpful threads there also.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417034]Thanks man. Good to know. Questner gave some good advice as well.

Next question: In Colombia, which is better to go to (particularly for thick big bottom ladies, natural too) Bogota, Medellin or Cartenega?

Would you say DR or Colombia? Seems like Sosua is far more straight forward while Colombia offers more to do. I'll probably end up going DR and Colombia eventually, just wondering which I should go to first.

A woman like Cherokee the'Ass would be PRIME![/QUOTE]I have to say that the size ass that you are looking for is very large, not rare but very large obviously, I personally did not see a lot of women in Cartagena with a trunk quite the size of Cherokee the'Ass, so my suggestion would be Medellin. I could be wrong because I am not looking for the same thing that you are and so I would easily overlook this and certainly would not be quantifying this. I am not knocking your taste, it is just different than mine. Medellin is a much larger city than Cartagena and larger city means more chicas and more opportunity for variety.

[QUOTE=FrenchTeam;2417393]What's the best country to go to for black women? Should I go to Kenya or is there plenty in the Colombian cities?[/QUOTE]The Tall Man loves the black women, a thing of mine, I can tell you that just in the past 8 or 9 days I have had 3 black women, all from the costa area (Santa Marta & Barranquilla) and all 3 very delicious and the one I enjoyed yesterday was not only a great attitude but had a smile to die for.

Now if your traveling from Europe is not Kenya much closer to travel for you?

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2417414]I have to say that the size ass that you are looking for is very large, not rare but very large obviously, I personally did not see a lot of women in Cartagena with a trunk quite the size of Cherokee the'Ass, so my suggestion would be Medellin. I could be wrong because I am not looking for the same thing that you are and so I would easily overlook this and certainly would not be quantifying this. I am not knocking your taste, it is just different than mine. Medellin is a much larger city than Cartagena and larger city means more chicas and more opportunity for variety.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I thought Cartagena might be a better bet since this city has more Afro-Colombians and the very large ass is more common to black women.

I like all types of women and body shapes. From petite slim East asians, to thick South Africans to very busty Kenyans. I'll do them all. I think right now I'm in a phase where I want a very very large ass.

[QUOTE=Questner;2417370]At Zakmo: start with Dom Rep, then graduate to Colombia. Colombia is more expensive, more complicated in my view. Dom Rep is a 'poor man's paradise, Colombia is a branch of a paradise.[/QUOTE]Thanks man! I've been leaning DR as well, but the reports from Sosua haven't been encouraging. And I'm not the kind of person that needs 900 chicas to be running around. No. Enough choice where I can get what I need to get done, done. I like the straight forward nature of Sosua. It reminds me of my time in Thailand where you have a centralized area where all the action is. Colombia (at least from what I can read) seems a bit more varied.

My planned trip isn't for another 2 months so I'll still gather more intel before pulling the trigger.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2417231]
Which place should you visit? Hard question as it depends on what kind of experience that your looking for.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/B7HfSANFv8O/[/URL]

That is the kind of woman I'm looking for on my trip. The trip will be a quick 4-5 day stay and I'm looking for women shaped like her. This will be my first voyage to the Latin continent (but not my last). Eventually I'll do Colombia, Brazil, DR, Panama etc But for my maiden voyage, I'm looking for nice large, shapely asses.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417441]Thanks! I thought Cartagena might be a better bet since this city has more Afro-Colombians and the very large ass is more common to black women.

I like all types of women and body shapes. From petite slim East asians, to thick South Africans to very busty Kenyans. I'll do them all. I think right now I'm in a phase where I want a very very large ass.[/QUOTE] are you more focused on them being Afro-Colombian or the size of their ass? If it is Afro-Colombian than you might also study up on Cali, there is a concentration of Afro-Colombians there also. If it is the size of their ass than there are Paisas in Medellin that have some junk in the trunk also.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417444][URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/B7HfSANFv8O/[/URL]
That is the kind of woman I'm looking for on my trip.[/QUOTE]It's amazing how many totally different perspectives do people have, all legitimate, and all together make humanity. To me, such a body is simply disgusting. It's not just big, it's sick, ruined.

I totally miss why one should fly hours and invest thousand dollars for such a deformed body, even sick of cellulitis. Every country has tons of woman (and men) with such health problems! There are clinics that make huge profits to cure such affections, and they cannot be successful at all times, for the true desperation of women who cannot recover a decent shape that does not push men away from them.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2417454]If it is the size of their ass than there are Paisas in Medellin that have some junk in the trunk also.[/QUOTE]Did you see the photo? I doubt that any club in Medellin, even the poorest in El Centro, would allow such monster to enter. Just in the streets, and cheaper than standard 40 k.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2417516]It's amazing how many totally different perspectives do people have, all legitimate, and all together make humanity. To me, such a body is simply disgusting. It's not just big, it's sick, ruined.

I totally miss why one should fly hours and invest thousand dollars for such a deformed body, even sick of cellulitis. Every country has tons of woman (and men) with such health problems! There are clinics that make huge profits to cure such affections, and they cannot be successful at all times, for the true desperation of women who cannot recover a decent shape that does not push men away from them. [/QUOTE]And that's what great. Everyone has their own taste profile. I'll take a chick with a shapley monster booty any day of the week. The backshots on chicks with booty like that are A1. If you know you know

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2417516]It's amazing how many totally different perspectives do people have, all legitimate, and all together make humanity. To me, such a body is simply disgusting. It's not just big, it's sick, ruined.

I totally miss why one should fly hours and invest thousand dollars for such a deformed body, even sick of cellulitis. Every country has tons of woman (and men) with such health problems! There are clinics that make huge profits to cure such affections, and they cannot be successful at all times, for the true desperation of women who cannot recover a decent shape that does not push men away from them.

Did you see the photo? I doubt that any club in Medellin, even the poorest in El Centro, would allow such monster to enter. Just in the streets, and cheaper than standard 40 k.[/QUOTE]I too would be repulsed in I looked over and saw that in bed with me but he is not even close to being the first guy I have heard from or known that likes this type of woman. Your European background is showing (no offense, I am being serious) Have you seen the Kardashians asses? Baby got back. Big asses are a thing for some guys and as you can see, for some it's about the bigger the better. I agree that he is very unlikely to find these types in the strip clubs, but I have seen a few of them on Facebook in Medellin and Cali. I think it in some cases it is the opposite of what you describe in the fact that women go to clinics to rid themselves of these bodies, I think some women in the USA and Colombia go to clinics to get an ass like that. I know it is shocking to a lot of people but I think it is true, some of them have a tiny waist in comparison to the size of the ass. It's not my thing but I live and let live.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2417516]
I totally miss why one should fly hours and invest thousand dollars for such a deformed body, even sick of cellulitis.

[/QUOTE]You don't have to leave the hood to hit a body like that. Just go to Popeyes Chicken any day of the week.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2417575]I too would be repulsed in I looked over and saw that in bed with me but he is not even close to being the first guy I have heard from or known that likes this type of woman. Your European background is showing (no offense, I am being serious) Have you seen the Kardashians asses? Baby got back. Big asses are a thing for some guys and as you can see, for some it's about the bigger the better. I agree that he is very unlikely to find these types in the strip clubs, but I have seen a few of them on Facebook in Medellin and Cali. I think it in some cases it is the opposite of what you describe in the fact that women go to clinics to rid themselves of these bodies, I think some women in the USA and Colombia go to clinics to get an ass like that. I know it is shocking to a lot of people but I think it is true, some of them have a tiny waist in comparison to the size of the ass. It's not my thing but I live and let live.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. At least you understand the context and you understand some people have different tastes. Some dudes like the slim Thai women, but other find their bodies not too different than that of a child (little hips, no curves etc). Live and let live like you said, no need for a dissertation decrying another man's preference.

I like a nice large ass with the tiny waist and tiny stomach. The lady I posted is past her prime so to speak so she isn't as tight as say 15 years ago. She was more so an illustration of what I like. They don't have to be as large, but in that general mold but NATURAL. Colombian women are known for silicon. Not a fan at all.

Anyway, thanks for the intel. Like I suspected, Colombian women have nice shapely bums, but not particularly the meaty booty that I'd like. I know in Brazil there are women that fit that bill but like I said, Brazil won't make sense for a 4-5 day trip in my situation.

Sosua seems to be the only other option but things there are ambiguous. I'd need to wait it out and see what happens after elections. I'll play things by ear for now.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2417590]You don't have to leave the hood to hit a body like that. Just go to Popeyes Chicken any day of the week.[/QUOTE]What I've noticed around my parts is the women with large booties tend to be large all over. When I was in SA you'd see women with huge hips and big butts but with little stomachs. That's more so what I'm after. All natural too.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417613]

I like a nice large ass with the tiny waist and tiny stomach.
but in that general mold but NATURAL. Colombian women are known for silicon. Not a fan at all.

Anyway, thanks for the intel. Like I suspected, Colombian women have nice shapely bums, but not particularly the meaty booty that I'd like.
[/QUOTE]I may not like big butt girls but I also cannot ignore the fact that people have been writing reverent songs about them for decades now. Maybe starting in the 1970's Queen's Fat Bottomed Girls, the 1990's Sir Mix-A-Lot's Baby Got Back, and more recently Doja Cat's Juicy with that all telling line "If you can see it from the front, wait til you see it from the back, back, back".

I think you missed my point. Many Colombian women DO have natural big butts. You can tell the difference between the silicon butts and the naturals by the size of the chica's thighs and their proportion to the ass. The fake asses tend to be out of proportion to the size of the thighs. Since last summer when I learned about Chicas selling pussy via Facebook, I have looked at thousands of chicas in Colombia and I have seen quite a few that have big buts that look natural and yet have that small waist and flat stomach.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417616]What I've noticed around my parts is the women with large booties tend to be large all over. When I was in SA you'd see women with huge hips and big butts but with little stomachs. That's more so what I'm after. All natural too.[/QUOTE]I hear you.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/100010793025671/videos/1019238981779193/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2417575] Have you seen the Kardashians asses? Baby got back. Big asses are a thing for some guys and as you can see, for some it's about the bigger the better.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, but did you see the photo of this ugly fat woman? What has her ass to do with the ass of the Kardashians?

One thing is big (many paisas like them "voluptuosas" and indeed silicona is very popular in Medellin to make ass bigger and bigger. But THAT ASS is not just big: it has severe cellulite problems, the skin is sick, and it must be even like jelly. Nothing to do with a big round ass.

(yes, I am European and I love Chinese / Viet / Indo / Filipine, so imagine the kind of ass I like LOL).

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2417792]Excuse me, but did you see the photo of this ugly fat woman? What has her ass to do with the ass of the Kardashians?

One thing is big (many paisas like them "voluptuosas" and indeed silicona is very popular in Medellin to make ass bigger and bigger. But THAT ASS is not just big: it has severe cellulite problems, the skin is sick, and it must be even like jelly. Nothing to do with a big round ass.

(yes, I am European and I love Chinese / Viet / Indo / Filipine, so imagine the kind of ass I like LOL).[/QUOTE]Hey buddy, we get it, it's not your speed. Shut the fck up. Just say you don't like it and move on. If you're not going to contribute then keep your mouth shut and let other convos flow. Idk why you would get your panties in a bunch over another man's preference, that's just weak.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417613] The lady I posted is past her prime so to speak so she isn't as tight as say 15 years ago. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2417792]Excuse me, but did you see the photo of this ugly fat woman? What has her ass to do with the ass of the Kardashians?

(yes, I am European and I love Chinese / Viet / Indo / Filipine, so imagine the kind of ass I like LOL).[/QUOTE]He said the lady in the photo was past her prime and not as tight as she was 15 years ago, so I googled it. Then I googled Kim Kardashian. Photos to follow. I never been to China, Vietnam, Indonesia or the Philippines but I loved some women in Thailand. The reason I pointed out that you are European is that you are not fully immersed in all of USA culture, if yo were you would not be so shocked as your reactions shows, big butts are a thing and it does not matter the ethnicity of the eye of the beholder, I've known white dudes, asian guys and chicanos that have a thing for big butts, while my taste is a pert little healthy heart shaped ass, to each their own.

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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2417985]He said the lady in the photo was past her prime and not as tight as she was 15 years ago, so I googled it. Then I googled Kim Kardashian. Photos to follow. I never been to China, Vietnam, Indonesia or the Philippines but I loved some women in Thailand. The reason I pointed out that you are European is that you are not fully immersed in all of USA culture, if yo were you would not be so shocked as your reactions shows, big butts are a thing and it does not matter the ethnicity of the eye of the beholder, I've known white dudes, asian guys and chicanos that have a thing for big butts, while my taste is a pert little healthy heart shaped ass, to each their own.[/QUOTE]Yes big asses are there. Here is one chica I met on TNDr there and she wanted 250 k. Her as was real and tight. You could physically feel the meat without being sloppy. I have been with skinny athletic to thick and soft girls from Colombia. It is a buffet. I highly reccomend using PP, TNdr, FB, Millerotico or some other social media source if you want a bigger chance of finishing fetishes. This way you you can scout out whatever your heart desires. Leaving it to chance that you will be in the same place at the same time of your specific type you want is lowering the odds that you see it. You could be at club Space and she could be next door or working via social media only. Also I know a lot of Milfs don't even go to the clubs because that's a fetish. And being a fetish and not the highest sought after can translate to wasted time and money for them. There is a norm in the clubs and a lot of similarity amongst the girls. Obviously there will be standouts but they literally standout. I've gone enough times to consider myself a regular there. Every 3 months for 2 years. I always recommend newcomers with a fetish Pregame all your fetish girls before your trip and use the clubs as a filler in the night when you want to see what patches you cross. Photo of a big ass I enjoyed recently. It was breathtaking from the back and I could feel her abs from the front. I prefer this type also and they were available. In Medellin I see it more though but obviously found it with minimal work in Cartagena.

Are there no self respecting mongers in Cartagena? Seriously? 12 days without a post or even a word. If it was not such a bureaucratic splodge for me to get time off I would jump on a plane go down there myself and bang some chicas and then lie about overpaying just to get some old timers to take the time to scold me so this thread would look active.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2422339]Are there no self respecting mongers in Cartagena? Seriously? 12 days without a post or even a word. If it was not such a bureaucratic splodge for me to get time off I would jump on a plane go down there myself and bang some chicas and then lie about overpaying just to get some old timers to take the time to scold me so this thread would look active.[/QUOTE]Anyone down there may be overcome with the heat! Its been in the high 90's. LOL. Its been a good while since I have been but the heat can drain the life out of you if your not use to the climate. I'm sure reports will come in soon!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2422339]Are there no self respecting mongers in Cartagena? Seriously? 12 days without a post or even a word. If it was not such a bureaucratic splodge for me to get time off I would jump on a plane go down there myself and bang some chicas and then lie about overpaying just to get some old timers to take the time to scold me so this thread would look active.[/QUOTE]I was there recently. Again, having been there multiple times already, it is the same old same old. Many Chicas in the square under the old clock tower, Dolce Vita was so jam packed that it was not worth going.

La Jugada Club looked nice but could not get in without a reservation. La Santa was disappointingly quiet even after Friday midnight. Many Venezuelans chica but I have yet found any that is compatible with me. I had much better luck with chicas from Bogota. I think one might even have fallen in love with me, LOL. Just kidding.

Anyway, please don't get started with anymore thread on ATMs please.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2422339]Are there no self respecting mongers in Cartagena? Seriously? 12 days without a post or even a word. If it was not such a bureaucratic splodge for me to get time off I would jump on a plane go down there myself and bang some chicas and then lie about overpaying just to get some old timers to take the time to scold me so this thread would look active.[/QUOTE]I have an excellent report to give but I am waiting for my full membership so I can post some photos that will knock your socks off. Sent my cash in about 10 days ago. How long does it take? You can get a brief preview on the Havana thread that I posted when in Cartagena.

Posted in the accommodations thread. But seems action has died down. Repost for some thoughts? I'm headed back soon.

I've stayed at this chain before in other cities, never had any issues. Guests always register / flash ID at lobby, then head-up. Anyone have experience with the one by the clock tower in Cartagena?

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2416374]I heard a rumor that Club Pley has re-opened. A few years ago I had a good experience there. Even though it's pretty far away from the action. Has anyone been recently to confirm that it re-opened? If so, how was it?[/QUOTE]I was in Ctg last week and called the place to confirm it is still open. Unfortunately for me, I chose wrong and went to centro area (clock tower, LDV, Isis, etc.) where quality was very low for my standards. Next time I'll go straight to Pleyclub.

Fresh back from 5 days in Cartagena. I love this place. Stayed in an Air Bnb in Bocagrande. No issues bringing babes to the condo at all. Building was sweet and room was on the 36th Floor. Hit Hollywood beach during the day. At first glance, it looked totally dead. We walked closer to the water and there was at least 25 babes in bikinis hanging out. We parked it, drunk beers and mingled with the ladies. This was our routine during the day pretty much every day. Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil. Spent happy hour in the condo with girls we met at La Dulce Vita or Space the night before. Some real stunners in these two clubs. The girls were a lot of fun. We would drink on the balcony listening to music and partying for a good while before doing the deed. Happy hour prices were 200 mil also. We then hit the clubs about 10:30 as they get really packed and you can barely move. We would get the numbers of hot chicks to line up for day time action the next day before selecting a babe for the night. Took one from Ducle Vita or Space every night. They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

A few notes. I had no issues getting BBJ. The ones who said they didn't do it, I just moved on to the next that did. I did not like the talent out in the square. Some cuties but the real talent was in Space or Dulce Vita. Taxi drivers kept trying to get us to go to Pleyclub. We refused. I like partying in my own room. We did check out Isis Club. The girls were good looking but wanted $180 USD. There were only about 15 girls in Isis. We did the day boat trip to Cholon on Saturday. We had 4 girls and each wanted 200 USD for all day on the boat with unlimited fucks, including one final hit once we arrived back at the condo after the boating was over. We loaded up on Bourbon, Vokda and Tequila at Duty Free. Glad we did because quality brand booze was hard to come by. Viagras were 3 bucks a pill and every pharmacy and they were on every corner it seemed. Had a total blast and will be headed back soon.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2422339]Are there no self respecting mongers in Cartagena? Seriously? 12 days without a post or even a word. If it was not such a bureaucratic splodge for me to get time off I would jump on a plane go down there myself and bang some chicas and then lie about overpaying just to get some old timers to take the time to scold me so this thread would look active.[/QUOTE]First it was a page of ATM talk then a page and a half of big ass talk. Things got derailed and I agree.

Does anyone know if Elektra got reopened? What is killing centro right now is the lack of venues. I'm concerned all the action eventually moves out of the tourist areas. I don't trust safety in Cartagena enough.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2423662]First it was a page of ATM talk then a page and a half of big ass talk. Things got derailed and I agree.

Does anyone know if Elektra got reopened? What is killing centro right now is the lack of venues. I'm concerned all the action eventually moves out of the tourist areas. I don't trust safety in Cartagena enough.[/QUOTE]I know I am guilty of joining in on the streaming conversations about ATMs and Big Asses, I apologize. Did you hear that there were plans for Elektra to reopen? I once met a fabulous chica that I had many re-encounters with over a period of few years at Elektra. We all know that most Colombianas will wait for you to approach them, but this fine redish hair with a few freckles chica was out on the dance floor by herself displaying her oh so sexy sexuality like she was in world all by herself and did not even think she noticed me staring at her the way a hungry junk yard dog stares at prime rib, the next thing I new she had backed her ass up and was rubbing up and down my thigh. That first time I paid her 150 k and she stayed all night and most of the next day. So after that I would call her on my next to last day after I had hit the buffet every other night and spend the rest of the time with her. She since got married to some guy she went into the real estate business with.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423635] Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil.

They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

We had 4 girls and each wanted 200 USD for all day on the boat with unlimited fucks, including one final hit once we arrived back at the condo after the boating was over. [/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the report, I am glad your crew had fun. I hope you do not take what I say next the wrong way. I am going to try to put this in perspective. I have been visiting Cartagena for a long time. When I started visiting Cartagena most people in the USA had never heard of the place, and it was rare to see another person who spoke English for the entire time I was there. It has always been a tourist place but it was a Colombian tourist place for Colombians. Since then, I do not have to say how much has changed. The fear of every monger who has history there is that too many naive gringos would go down to Colombia and take there USA economy sensibilities with them without any Colombian economy sensibility and ruin the whole thing for us. The average chica in Colombia pays for a decent apartment outside the tourist zone in an average neighborhood about the equivalent of about $150 a month, up to $250 in a upper income neighborhood. The average salary. Think nurses, teachers, and other educated professionals. Earn about $700, if you make $1000 a month in Colombia you are in the top 20% of income earners. Add all this to the fact that prostitution is legal in Colombia and that creates a huge supply (which lowers the price compared to places it is not legal) and then you might realize why you paid too much. Chicas that told you 300 K in LDV would work for 150 k, and easily go for that off the beach. Chicas that talk in "dollars" are speaking a foreign language and should be avoided like the plague. Chicas will do an all day thing for for 400 k.

I say again that I am glad you made your report and glad you got a taste of what I call paradise, it might be that if / when you start doing this on a regular basis that you realize the value of negotiating, maybe your loaded and just do not care about blowing money, but the point is that each time you pay 50% to 100% over market price it adds up on the total budget for your trip. That is the way long game mongers think. If I want to make three, four trips a year I need to keep my budget to a manageable level. Paying market price saves a couple of thousand dollars for someone that visits a few times a year. Yet the fear of a lot of mongers is still that eventually too many fat walleted gringos with no sense of Colombian economics are going to ruin the place by driving up prices for no good economical reason. When I find a chica I like I will hit her up for multiple sessions so that she makes good money from me, after the third time I have paid her rent and half her groceries for the month for the total of about 6 hours.

Apologies, I double posted and could not delete the post so I edited

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2423791]
Thank you very much for the report, I am glad your crew had fun. I hope you do not take what I say next the wrong way. I am going to try to put this in perspective. I have been visiting Cartagena for a long time. When I started visiting Cartagena most people in the USA had never heard of the place, and it was rare to see another person who spoke English for the entire time I was there. It has always been a tourist place but it was a Colombian tourist place for Colombians. Since then, I do not have to say how much has changed. The fear of every monger who has history there is that too many naive gringos would go down to Colombia and take there USA economy sensibilities with them without any Colombian economy sensibility and ruin the whole thing for us. The average chica in Colombia pays for a decent apartment outside the tourist zone in an average neighborhood about the equivalent of about $150 a month, up to $250 in a upper income neighborhood. The average salary. Think nurses, teachers, and other educated professionals. Earn about $700, if you make $1000 a month in Colombia you are in the top 20% of income earners. Add all this to the fact that prostitution is legal in Colombia and that creates a huge supply (which lowers the price compared to places it is not legal) and then you might realize why you paid too much. Chicas that told you 300 K in LDV would work for 150 k, and easily go for that off the beach. Chicas that talk in "dollars" are speaking a foreign language and should be avoided like the plague. Chicas will do an all day thing for for 400 k.
[/QUOTE]Most tourists have no idea what the prices are for anything. Many come thinking they should pay in US dollars (there's been a few posts here asking if they could). It's a waste of time posting real prices here because the average gringo who shows up for the first time doesn't care if its 200 k pesos or 150 k pesos. He just wants to get laid.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2423953]Most tourists have no idea what the prices are for anything. Many come thinking they should pay in US dollars (there's been a few posts here asking if they could). It's a waste of time posting real prices here because the average gringo who shows up for the first time doesn't care if its 200 k pesos or 150 k pesos. He just wants to get laid.[/QUOTE]Fellas,

Not an amateur here. Been doing this a while all over the world. Everyone has their thing. I met some babes who were willing to go for the prices you guys are mentioning. Problem for me is, they were not my type. The ones that I like quoted between 200-300 mil not USD. If I talk to 20 babes that I like and they all quote the same price even after some negotiating, then that's the market for what I am looking for. Am I really going to fly all the way to Colombia to trip off of 30 bucks? That's cheaper than a round of drinks back home. 75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again. I had a great time and will continue to do so. Having fun cost. I'm not rich at all but I'm not going to let 20 or 30 bucks deter me from shagging a superstar. After all, that's what I am there for.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2423953]Most tourists have no idea what the prices are for anything. Many come thinking they should pay in US dollars (there's been a few posts here asking if they could). It's a waste of time posting real prices here because the average gringo who shows up for the first time doesn't care if its 200 k pesos or 150 k pesos. He just wants to get laid.[/QUOTE]You make a great point. Sad but true.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423964]Fellas,

75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again.[/QUOTE]YippieKayay your point has been proved. Sad but true!

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423964]Fellas,

Not an amateur here. Been doing this a while all over the world. Everyone has their thing. I met some babes who were willing to go for the prices you guys are mentioning. Problem for me is, they were not my type. The ones that I like quoted between 200-300 mil not USD. If I talk to 20 babes that I like and they all quote the same price even after some negotiating, then that's the market for what I am looking for. Am I really going to fly all the way to Colombia to trip off of 30 bucks? That's cheaper than a round of drinks back home. 75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again. I had a great time and will continue to do so. Having fun cost. I'm not rich at all but I'm not going to let 20 or 30 bucks deter me from shagging a superstar. After all, that's what I am there for.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm going to go against my own advice and repeat this for readers:

The locals pay 150 k for short time in the tourist areas in Cartagena. I've seen Colombian men who took a girl all night for that. Includes drinks and dancing first. Less than that for in-calls (sometimes as low as 60 k) if you go into the city. The reason the chicas in playa hollywood start at 200 k+ with you is they have to give a 50 k commission to the tout who is introducing them. In Tony's case that 50 k tends to go to the slot machines in Casino Rio in case you're wondering who you are really paying.

Your problem is that you ask for the price instead of offering it. If all you want is covered sex then all you need to do is:

* Introduce yourself.

* Ask her for her name and number and get her to put in your phone. They will all do this happily.

* Make some small talk.

* Offer 200 k.

* If she says no tell her you'll be in touch and send her a message in whatsapp so she remembers you.

* Guaranteed she will respond the same day for 200 k. Sometimes within minutes. Sometimes that evening.

Rinse and repeat. I've completely stopped "negotiating" because you don't need to at all. The only exception is if you're looking for a specific kink like anal etc.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2424025]I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm going to go against my own advice and repeat this for readers:

The locals pay 150 k for short time in the tourist areas in Cartagena. I've seen Colombian men who took a girl all night for that. Includes drinks and dancing first. Less than that for in-calls (sometimes as low as 60 k) if you go into the city. The reason the chicas in playa hollywood start at 200 k+ with you is they have to give a 50 k commission to the tout who is introducing them. In Tony's case that 50 k tends to go to the slot machines in Casino Rio in case you're wondering who you are really paying.

Your problem is that you ask for the price instead of offering it. If all you want is covered sex then all you need to do is:[/QUOTE]Yip, 200 mil pesos is 58 bucks! I was out last night with the fellas, I bought a round of drinks for 6 guys, 3 of them I had just met. The bill was 65 dollars and I ended up buying 2 more rounds. I understand exactly what you are saying for sure. However, I will not be talking to 20 different babes to find one for 30 bucks. More power to those who roll that way and I don't judge any man for how he does his thing with the ladies. Some guys think 200 USD is a good price! Not me, but if a guys sees his version of Beyonce and wants to nail it for 200 Usd, have at it. I won't be paying that much. As for the beach, we didn't use any touts, the babes were all laying out in the sun and we just called them over. It was a great time on the beach. We did get took on the beer prices the first day but once we starting paying as we went for beers, that was even fine. Got to spend your money on something Yip! The babes who were quoting 100 mil or 150 mil, I would never hit those babes. Were not my type at all.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423964]Fellas,

Not an amateur here. Been doing this a while all over the world. Everyone has their thing. I met some babes who were willing to go for the prices you guys are mentioning. Problem for me is, they were not my type. The ones that I like quoted between 200-300 mil not USD. If I talk to 20 babes that I like and they all quote the same price even after some negotiating, then that's the market for what I am looking for. Am I really going to fly all the way to Colombia to trip off of 30 bucks? That's cheaper than a round of drinks back home. 75 bucks, to me, is a great price to slam a babe that I think is absolutely gorgeous. If guys like spending 40 bucks on some of the talent that I saw quoting that price, more power to them. I certainly didn't like that caliber of babe. I'm going to keep rolling the way I do an drop my little 250 or 300 mil pesos again and again. I had a great time and will continue to do so. Having fun cost. I'm not rich at all but I'm not going to let 20 or 30 bucks deter me from shagging a superstar. After all, that's what I am there for.[/QUOTE]I'm with you Game Time. I would rather pay a little more for top quality and better service. We are not talking about a lot of money here. You get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423635]Fresh back from 5 days in Cartagena. I love this place. Stayed in an Air Bnb in Bocagrande. No issues bringing babes to the condo at all. Building was sweet and room was on the 36th Floor. Hit Hollywood beach during the day. At first glance, it looked totally dead. We walked closer to the water and there was at least 25 babes in bikinis hanging out. We parked it, drunk beers and mingled with the ladies. This was our routine during the day pretty much every day. Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil. Spent happy hour in the condo with girls we met at La Dulce Vita or Space the night before. Some real stunners in these two clubs. The girls were a lot of fun. We would drink on the balcony listening to music and partying for a good while before doing the deed. Happy hour prices were 200 mil also. We then hit the clubs about 10:30 as they get really packed and you can barely move. We would get the numbers of hot chicks to line up for day time action the next day before selecting a babe for the night. Took one from Ducle Vita or Space every night. They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

A few notes. I had no issues getting BBJ. The ones who said they didn't do it, I just moved on to the next that did. I did not like the talent out in the square. Some cuties but the real talent was in Space or Dulce Vita. Taxi drivers kept trying to get us to go to Pleyclub..[/QUOTE]Hello Game Time,

Great report, appreciate taking time and writing detailed, useful trip report.

I will be visiting Cartagena next week and staying in one of the Bocagrande apartments. Not new to Colombia but this is my first trip to Cartagena.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2424030]Yip, 200 mil pesos is 58 bucks! I was out last night with the fellas, I bought a round of drinks for 6 guys, 3 of them I had just met. The bill was 65 dollars and I ended up buying 2 more rounds. I understand exactly what you are saying for sure. However, I will not be talking to 20 different babes to find one for 30 bucks. More power to those who roll that way and I don't judge any man for how he does his thing with the ladies. Some guys think 200 USD is a good price! Not me, but if a guys sees his version of Beyonce and wants to nail it for 200 Usd, have at it. I won't be paying that much. As for the beach, we didn't use any touts, the babes were all laying out in the sun and we just called them over. It was a great time on the beach. We did get took on the beer prices the first day but once we starting paying as we went for beers, that was even fine. Got to spend your money on something Yip! The babes who were quoting 100 mil or 150 mil, I would never hit those babes. Were not my type at all.[/QUOTE]It was a good report. I think the criticism stems from the girls wanting $200 US to spend the day on the boat partying. I've never tried, it's not my thing, but I believe I can find 3 or 4 women who will be happy to split $200 for the same thing. All women I'd happily pay 200 k for a session.

As I'm sure you're aware, always shoot high. Never start at your lowest price. The girls know this too. When a girl in Medellin tells me "300", I respond with "siempre pago 200 (or 150). " That's 200 k, not dollars. I always pay (whatever price I'm willing to pay). Almost every time the immediate response is "OK. " Some will then want to add taxi fare, and I'll add time. If we can't agree, I'll suggest maybe another day and move on. Very few will let you walk away.

Unless the girl throws out a ridiculous price, I don't tell her "no. " I just tell her what I pay. If I absolutely can't resist her, I can still take her price if she's not budging and I can get some concessions: "Dale, si incluye chupa sin condom why dos polvos. " Okay, if it includes BBBJ and 2 cums.

I'm not going to waste more than a few seconds haggling on price. I pay a fair rate and make minimal demands. I recognize my bargaining position is much stronger. She doesn't have 20 guys waiting for a chance to pay her. She's one of 20 girls waiting for me to call them over. Her chance of finding another customer in the next hour is slim. My chance of finding another girl is 99.99%.

Throughout all this I keep smiling and keep it light.

The bottom line is, you enjoyed your trip. Whether someone thinks you did it wrong isn't a big deal. Look at the criticism and learn. I'm confident next time you can have just as much fun and spend less having it.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2423635]Fresh back from 5 days in Cartagena. I love this place. Stayed in an Air Bnb in Bocagrande. No issues bringing babes to the condo at all. Building was sweet and room was on the 36th Floor. Hit Hollywood beach during the day. At first glance, it looked totally dead. We walked closer to the water and there was at least 25 babes in bikinis hanging out. We parked it, drunk beers and mingled with the ladies. This was our routine during the day pretty much every day. Took one from the beach everyday for 200 mil. Spent happy hour in the condo with girls we met at La Dulce Vita or Space the night before. Some real stunners in these two clubs. The girls were a lot of fun. We would drink on the balcony listening to music and partying for a good while before doing the deed. Happy hour prices were 200 mil also. We then hit the clubs about 10:30 as they get really packed and you can barely move. We would get the numbers of hot chicks to line up for day time action the next day before selecting a babe for the night. Took one from Ducle Vita or Space every night. They asked for 300 mil and I forked it over as I didn't feel like haggling over 50 mil. All the babes were fun and had no problem partying, drinking, dancing around our condo before sex. It was four of us in our condo and everyone brought a babe back to party every night. We are all in our 40's by the way.

A few notes..[/QUOTE]Great report which Airbnb apartment in Bocagrande you stayed.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2424280]Unless the girl throws out a ridiculous price, I don't tell her "no. " I just tell her what I pay...….
I'm not going to waste more than a few seconds haggling on price. I pay a fair rate and make minimal demands. I recognize my bargaining position is much stronger. She doesn't have 20 guys waiting for a chance to pay her. She's one of 20 girls waiting for me to call them over. Her chance of finding another customer in the next hour is slim. My chance of finding another girl is 99.99%.[/QUOTE]So True.

I'd say her chance of finding a guy in the next hour or even all night can be slim given all the talent that can be present at the time. I have seen many good looking girls go without a guy. Whereas a guy can find another girl in less than a hour if he so chooses do to.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2425289]So True.

I'd say her chance of finding a guy in the next hour or even all night can be slim given all the talent that can be present at the time. I have seen many good looking girls go without a guy. Whereas a guy can find another girl in less than a hour if he so chooses do to.[/QUOTE]This is how to negotiate with a latin hooker:

[URL]https://youtu.be/LhNntK23c3k[/URL]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2425555]This is how to negotiate with a latin hooker: [URL]https://youtu.be/LhNntK23c3k[/URL][/QUOTE]I'll never get the minutes back of my life looking at that video / show and subsequent video clips. That show and its premise is ridiculous. After watching some scenes I would have given her the "Spartan.

King Leonidas kick" [URL]https://youtu.be/wzqXggZU3eE[/URL].

Just did 8 days in CTG for the Superbowl and I'm damn happy I didn't go to DR, I had a blast. Already booked for a return in May. The info on here worked great, especially the ATM info. I stayed in Laguito so I found 2 of the banks. I like the ScotiaBank Colpatria bank on San Andre. Something to note about the ATMs, They will ask if you want to see the cost of the fee you will get hit with, decline that. I accepted it 3 times at the Banco Social ATM and my card was banned. I decided to skip that option at the ScotiaBank Colpatria ATM and my transaction went through. To test it, I select to see the fee the 2nd time around and my transaction got declined.

I like the vibe at the clock tower. Chicas were mad friendly. While my Spanish isn't great, I can move around and hold a conversation. I used the translator maybe 5 times the whole trip. And Spanish isn't needed, but it sure does open the chicas up and even gets you those low prices. I had 1 from the tower for 150 K for 2-3 hours, even had another one overnight for 150 k (Venezuelan). Dolce Vida was nice on the weekdays, not so packed. But on Friday and Saturday, you could barely find a spot to post up. Didn't even ask the prices while in there. I like Space too, a little more more to move. I pulled one from here of 150 K for 2 hours. You could just post up outside and catch a chica when she's coming out on her way to the tower too.

Now about where to stay, I'm going to stick to the rules and not post any place specific but I will tell you ask the chicas. They know where to stay that will be guest friendly. One chick give me a list and I asked other chicks and even a guide. I built my list and I can say there are hotels, as well as apartments that are guest friendly, especially in Laguito / end of Bocogrande. I corroborated this with Airbnb hosts as well for a particular hotel. 3 came back with the same answer and procedure to register a chick as a guest and not a visitor so she can stay overnight or even days with no issues. So for a first trip, get down there and talk to the chicks, guys who are guides for the gringos, talk to the hotels so you can build your list of hotels. Also don't be afraid to tell the Airbnb host that you will have some company some days, what's the visitor / guest policy.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2425555]This is how to negotiate with a latin hooker:

[URL]https://youtu.be/LhNntK23c3k[/URL][/QUOTE]I wouldn't pay that broad more than $20 and only if she deep throats so I wouldn't have to listen to her.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2425555]This is how to negotiate with a latin hooker:

[URL]https://youtu.be/LhNntK23c3k[/URL][/QUOTE]Great but don't get engaged or marry her first!

I'm thinking I'll be there March 20-25 anyone wants to hang out send me a message.

I have never been to Cartagena. Judging by the reports here the girl rates at the square and clubs are 200-300 Mil. Please would anyone know why the girls on photoprepagos website mostly charge 80-150 Mil.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2427378]I have never been to Cartagena. Judging by the reports here the girl rates at the square and clubs are 200-300 Mil. Please would anyone know why the girls on photoprepagos website mostly charge 80-150 Mil.[/QUOTE]Because locals pay up to 150 k. Tourists who don't know better pay twice that amount. Does that make sense?

I know the street game might be easy but does anyone know of websites of any of the girls. Any other suggestions? I'm going there in a month.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2427378]I have never been to Cartagena. Judging by the reports here the girl rates at the square and clubs are 200-300 Mil. Please would anyone know why the girls on photoprepagos website mostly charge 80-150 Mil.[/QUOTE]IN CTG I paid from 150 K to 300 K. True local rates are about 120 K to 130 K at Amparo. However you need to go there, and taxis will add costs, so it does not make much sense. I haven't seen anything decent at 80 K, not anymore.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2427378]I have never been to Cartagena. Judging by the reports here the girl rates at the square and clubs are 200-300 Mil. Please would anyone know why the girls on photoprepagos website mostly charge 80-150 Mil.[/QUOTE]Locals ain't looking for the dime piece. They looking for something to hit and get back home before wifey is looking for them. So they get what they can for the under 120 K. I had 3 at 150 K for a couple of hours. Learning to talk Spanish and just chilling with the chicas goes a long way. One girl charged a Iranian guy we just met 500 K pesos (which he paid). She said he lasted 5 min then passed out.

[QUOTE=Wowplayer;2427456]I know the street game might be easy but does anyone know of websites of any of the girls. Any other suggestions? I'm going there in a month.[/QUOTE]The two websites I know of are photoprepagos. And Mileroticos. Hope that's helpful.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2427801]The two websites I know of are photoprepagos. And Mileroticos. Hope that's helpful.[/QUOTE]Yes thank you.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2427406]Because locals pay up to 150 k. Tourists who don't know better pay twice that amount. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE]Yip, you be on cats hard for how much they are paying. Man, I've been to Cartagena many times and the ones that are talking 100 k Pesos just are not a lot of guys type. If you get a superstar that's refusing to go for 100 k, what are you going to do if you really want to tap that one? You can't make them take 100 or 150 k. Most guys are going to pay the extra 30 or 40 (USD) bucks and nail it. At least I know I am. The gringo tax is just a cost of doing business. No one that I have ever gone to Cartagena is willing to take less attractive women to save 30 bucks. I was just at Cocal in Costa Rica and babes far less attractive than these stunners I see in Cartagena were asking 200-300 USD! I was listening to guys paying 400-500 USD for all night. Compared to Cocal, Cartagena is a huge bargain. However, I know the spirit of your comments is to prevent this lovely place from turning into a Cocal with those kinds of prices.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2427378]I have never been to Cartagena. Judging by the reports here the girl rates at the square and clubs are 200-300 Mil. Please would anyone know why the girls on photoprepagos website mostly charge 80-150 Mil.[/QUOTE]Probably because once they show up at your door they look nothing like the photos. Happened to me twice in Cartagena. I sent them packing each time. Bottom line is you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2428876]Yip, you be on cats hard for how much they are paying. Man, I've been to Cartagena many times and the ones that are talking 100 k Pesos just are not a lot of guys type. If you get a superstar that's refusing to go for 100 k, what are you going to do if you really want to tap that one? You can't make them take 100 or 150 k. Most guys are going to pay the extra 30 or 40 (USD) bucks and nail it. At least I know I am. The gringo tax is just a cost of doing business. No one that I have ever gone to Cartagena is willing to take less attractive women to save 30 bucks. I was just at Cocal in Costa Rica and babes far less attractive than these stunners I see in Cartagena were asking 200-300 USD! I was listening to guys paying 400-500 USD for all night. Compared to Cocal, Cartagena is a huge bargain. However, I know the spirit of your comments is to prevent this lovely place from turning into a Cocal with those kinds of prices.[/QUOTE]You wrote an interesting post, you defend overpaying double.

But at the end I think you see where that takes us? Cocal et al.

It won't happen overnite but when guys say its just 30-40 bucks they pay 500 usd tln in Cocal.

Then tomorrow the hookers raise the asking price 30-40 more and then 30-40 more then 30-40 more then 30-40 more.

Guess where there stop asking for more? They don't, I'm guessing there are hookers in Cocal pushing that top price even higher, and guys saying.

Well.

At least its cheaper than where I live in NYC or San Francisco.

You say guys don't want to pay less for less attractive girls?

How much less? A 7. 8 instead of a 8 0?

Ill take a 7. 8.

I don't want a 5 or 6 for free.

But I never overpay.

Thanks for the post.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2428955]You wrote an interesting post, you defend overpaying double.

But at the end I think you see where that takes us? Cocal et al.

It won't happen overnite but when guys say its just 30-40 bucks they pay 500 usd tln in Cocal.

Then tomorrow the hookers raise the asking price 30-40 more and then 30-40 more then 30-40 more then 30-40 more.

Guess where there stop asking for more? They don't, I'm guessing there are hookers in Cocal pushing that top price even higher, and guys saying.

Well..[/QUOTE]Most 8's are happy to accept the same price as the 6's. The line I use in Medellin is "siempre pago _ and insert whatever price I'm willing to pay. If a girl asks for 250, "siempre pago 150. " Every time they agree but ask for more for the taxi.

The answer identifies you as an experienced visitor. Someone who knows the game and the price. They might spend 3 hours trying to get that 250, instead of the 150 that's practically in the hand.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2428955]You wrote an interesting post, you defend overpaying double.

But at the end I think you see where that takes us? Cocal et al.

It won't happen overnite but when guys say its just 30-40 bucks they pay 500 usd tln in Cocal.

Then tomorrow the hookers raise the asking price 30-40 more and then 30-40 more then 30-40 more then 30-40 more.

Guess where there stop asking for more? They don't, I'm guessing there are hookers in Cocal pushing that top price even higher, and guys saying.

Well.

At least its cheaper than where I live in NYC or San Francisco.

You say guys don't want to pay less for less attractive girls?.[/QUOTE]Certainly don't want Cartagena to end up like Cocal with outrageous prices. But if you head to the square at night and the type of babe you like are all saying 250 K. Some are coming up to you saying 100 K. The 100 K babes your not into. You wait it out and head to Dulce Vita. Inside of there its the same story. I'm not going to go home empty handed so I'm going to pay the 250 k. What else can you really do? Play hardball and then end up flying all the way there to nail a bunch of mediocre babes? I just paid like 60 bucks to ride a jet ski for an hour, so in my mind I'm OK with shelling out the 250 k to tag a beauty queen even though I know a local is getting it for 30 bucks cheaper. Its either that or don't get laid the way I see it. I have a pal who just came back Thursday. He hits anything. He had plenty of the 80 k ones. I just can't stomach nailing those babes.

Hitting up CTG in April travelling solo staying in an Airbnb in the walled city anyone there at that time we could link, I been there a couple times so any first time goers there in April solo LMK.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2429152]Certainly don't want Cartagena to end up like Cocal with outrageous prices. But if you head to the square at night and the type of babe you like are all saying 250 K. Some are coming up to you saying 100 K. The 100 K babes your not into. You wait it out and head to Dulce Vita. Inside of there its the same story. I'm not going to go home empty handed so I'm going to pay the 250 k. What else can you really do? Play hardball and then end up flying all the way there to nail a bunch of mediocre babes? I just paid like 60 bucks to ride a jet ski for an hour, so in my mind I'm OK with shelling out the 250 k to tag a beauty queen even though I know a local is getting it for 30 bucks cheaper. Its either that or don't get laid the way I see it. I have a pal who just came back Thursday. He hits anything. He had plenty of the 80 k ones. I just can't stomach nailing those babes.[/QUOTE]I had a $100 steak in Chicago recently, but that has zero relevance to any discussion of the economics of what I pay for any hooker, be it in Europe Moscow Mexico Asia or Cartagena.

All you need to know is if she's asking 250, they will accept less, I don't want less than a 7 for free.

I will pay "X for a 8" that doesn't mean ill pay "XXXX for a 9", its a buyers market, its always a buyers market.

You seem like an intelligent / sane chap.

IMHO.

Only losers with low / no self esteem overpay.

The ugly monger with no self confidence.

Is that you? I seriously doubt it.

So, don't be that guy.

Mongers that overpay are destroying the game globally.

I usually hit the beach (Bocagrande Hollywood Beach Laguito) for daytime action and torre de reloj at night after 11 pm. As it gets later in the night check out Dolce Vita and Space not far from the plaza. This time I stayed in El Laguito rather than El Centro. It was a pretty good set up at my own place. I really hate those touts on the beach that won't give you 5 minutes of peace. Most of those massage girls are hideous. Imagine if most of those massage girls were hot in a sexy bikini or something. Maybe a private tent for service. LOL.

2 things I've found in Cartagena and the coast, in general, that I didn't like about apartments was that some didn't have hot water and some needed fumigation. The hot water, you can ask about before hand, even though I think sometimes their perception of hot water is different since they seem to use showers more to cool off than to clean, IMO. The fumigation issue might be more dicey and you may not find out until you arrive that there is an issue.

I've had good experiences at hotels, when you can find one that is chica friendly or you're very discreet and can slip through the cracks.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2429609]I usually hit the beach (Bocagrande Hollywood Beach Laguito) for daytime action and torre de reloj at night after 11 pm. As it gets later in the night check out Dolce Vita and Space not far from the plaza. This time I stayed in El Laguito rather than El Centro. It was a pretty good set up at my own place. I really hate those touts on the beach that won't give you 5 minutes of peace. Most of those massage girls are hideous. Imagine if most of those massage girls were hot in a sexy bikini or something. Maybe a private tent for service. LOL.[/QUOTE]Seriously.

I get they need to make a living, but they follow like a pack of wild dogs. They never take their eyes off of you either.

Hollywood Beach is my favorite place and least favorite place in CTG.

There are some great chica-friendly places on Airbnb just have to ask nicely if you allowed to have visitors. I do agree about Hollywood Beach Tony just doesn't know when to stop and after a while it gets annoying but I do like the scene in general. You just have to make sure you slide Tony a couple of dollars to leave you alone. Otherwise I think the vendors are cool They will leave you alone if you are nice to them of course the more they think you are annoyed the more they will bother you. Anyway to each his own good luck I've been quoted as a great place.

[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2429854]Seriously.

I get they need to make a living, but they follow like a pack of wild dogs. They never take their eyes off of you either.

Hollywood Beach is my favorite place and least favorite place in CTG.[/QUOTE]One time at Hollywood Beach a massage girl came to me to offer her services. I declined and she walked away saying she has something better. Shortly after a Vennie girl sits with me acting shy. She later told me that she was new and if she didn't find a client she would have to pay a penalty. WTF? I told her that I didn't ask for her and she understood and left. Sounds like some pimp shit!

[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2427491]Locals ain't looking for the dime piece. They looking for something to hit and get back home before wifey is looking for them. So they get what they can for the under 120 K. I had 3 at 150 K for a couple of hours. Learning to talk Spanish and just chilling with the chicas goes a long way. One girl charged a Iranian guy we just met 500 K pesos (which he paid). She said he lasted 5 min then passed out.[/QUOTE]Then they meet guys like me who if I am paying for 2 hours will be fucking for the full 2 hours.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2424037]I'm with you Game Time. I would rather pay a little more for top quality and better service. We are not talking about a lot of money here. You get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]Paying more for a woman or getting the super hot girl doesn't always amount to getting great service. Shit some of the services you get from these type of girls are pathetic to be honest. Again I get the whole joy caring about paying 30 or 40 more dollars but shit doesn't stop there. In time that 30 to 40 dollar increase is going to be 60 to 80. Then eventually they will start charging you in dollars like they do in Cancun.

Hey guys,

just looking for recommendations. Not sure if you're allowed to give names of places but I will ask. Looking to do a quick 3 night trip to Cartagena, wondering if anyone can suggest chica friendly hotels or Airbnb at a reasonable price? Also looking to go there from March 12-15 if anyone is in town I would definitely be down to meet up for drinks and venture out together.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2430350]Paying more for a woman or getting the super hot girl doesn't always amount to getting great service. Shit some of the services you get from these type of girls are pathetic to be honest. Again I get the whole joy caring about paying 30 or 40 more dollars but shit doesn't stop there. In time that 30 to 40 dollar increase is going to be 60 to 80. Then eventually they will start charging you in dollars like they do in Cancun.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. But most of the time you can tell after you have a few drinks with the babe if the odds are in your favor in landing a beast in the bed. If she's fine as hell and there's some good chemistry. I'm going for it and giving up that extra 30 bucks. All day, everyday, twice on Sundays.

If you do your homework here you'll find a few. Mostly you need to look at the house rules and see what they say about guests. If there is nothing that says that guests are prohibited then send a message to the operator and ask specifically if you're allowed to have gas and if so under what conditions.

[QUOTE=GlobeTrotter19;2431345]Hey guys,

just looking for recommendations. Not sure if you're allowed to give names of places but I will ask. Looking to do a quick 3 night trip to Cartagena, wondering if anyone can suggest chica friendly hotels or Airbnb at a reasonable price? Also looking to go there from March 12-15 if anyone is in town I would definitely be down to meet up for drinks and venture out together.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GlobeTrotter19;2431345]Hey guys,

just looking for recommendations. Not sure if you're allowed to give names of places but I will ask. Looking to do a quick 3 night trip to Cartagena, wondering if anyone can suggest chica friendly hotels or Airbnb at a reasonable price? Also looking to go there from March 12-15 if anyone is in town I would definitely be down to meet up for drinks and venture out together.[/QUOTE]If you're OK with a solid (but not super-fancy) GF apartment in Laquito, search this thread for Juan's number. Alternatively, you might want to pay for the membership fees here, which would allow other members to send you PMs. Good luck!

[QUOTE=GameTime;2431426]I totally agree with you. But most of the time you can tell after you have a few drinks with the babe if the odds are in your favor in landing a beast in the bed. If she's fine as hell and there's some good chemistry. I'm going for it and giving up that extra 30 bucks. All day, everyday, twice on Sundays.[/QUOTE]Weak mongers will be weak mongers.

Like Forest Gump says "stupid is as stupid does".

You don't have to give her extra 30 or any extra anything.

Do you pay extra anywhere else for things?

You are willfully damaging the economics of the market.

Please stop.

On day 4 of 5 on our first trip here, staying in the walled city and a great airBNB my buddy and I have had awesome times finding girls at clock tower, tinder, photoprepagos, we might hit LDV tonight just haven't had the need to so far. Plenty of 8's and 9's in our opinion and all are accepting 150 mil.

Overall we find the girls are more generous than the girls in DR or CR (our past mongering experiences).

Thanks to all who passed along valuable info leading up to our trip.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2431618]On day 4 of 5 on our first trip here, staying in the walled city and a great airBNB my buddy and I have had awesome times finding girls at clock tower, tinder, photoprepagos, we might hit LDV tonight just haven't had the need to so far. Plenty of 8's and 9's in our opinion and all are accepting 150 mil.

Overall we find the girls are more generous than the girls in DR or CR (our past mongering experiences).

Thanks to all who passed along valuable info leading up to our trip.[/QUOTE]Which Airbnb in walled city you are staying. Is it chica friendly.

Plenty of 8's and 9's in our opinion and all are accepting 150 mil. - Really?

[QUOTE=Questner;2431803]Plenty of 8's and 9's in our opinion and all are accepting 150 mil. - Really?[/QUOTE]Yes indeed! I even caught a girl off tinder who gave it to me gratis all night last night!

My friend and I are decently attractive white and in our 30's, I don't know how much that helps us but we had a blast.

I read a lot of information on this forum before making my first trip to Colombia, and, even though I doubt I have a lot of new information to share, I thought I should contribute at least a little bit. Maybe it will help someone?

I stayed in Centro. I wasn't very adventurous being my first experience with the place. I spent a few days just taking tours, sightseeing, and enjoying the atmosphere. The beaches in the city aren't great, but it was only eight mil to get there by taxi, so I saw no reason not to stay in the heart of the action and night life instead of at some tower down in Bocagrande.

I stayed in hotels. No they weren't guest friendly. It doesn't matter. There are several hourly places within easy walking distance of the clock tower / clubs, and they're perfectly fine for what you're using them for. The girls know where they are and it's perfectly safe. They charged 50 mil. I have no idea whether that was right or for how long I paid. No one ever knocked on a door, and I was there for more than a hour sometimes.

I didn't feel like picking up anyone from the plaza de Los coches (clock tower). I could have. It's just very public. Also, there are definitely some of questionable age there. Better to go elsewhere where you know they're checking ID unless you've seen them in both places. And you will. The same girls in the square will go to the clubs later.

A hundred (no exaggeration) guys are going to try to "help" you find a chica. I have no idea why. They're all standing right there. Anyway, as a solo traveler I had more than enough time to talk with the guys standing around selling stuff to know prices and haggle even though I had no intention of buying. 150 mil isn't outrageous in the square. Haggle for everything really. It's still probably cheaper in the store, but at least you feel like you won a little bit. (You didn't. The guy still won.).

Oh. There's a twenty four hour convenience store fifteen seconds walking from the clock tower. Buy your smokes there. 8 mil a pack instead of whatever nonsense the guys in the square are asking.

Also, if you're a coffee addicted northerner like me, who needs the caffeine even when it's 35 degrees Celsius out, Juan Valdez Cafe is your Tim Hortons substitute. They're everywhere, the coffee is good, and the service is. Ummm. Really slow!

Isis. Went in. Hard to avoid since dozens of guys are trying to take people there. Not a strip club like I think of. The girls stand around doing nothing. Eventually one talks to you. 750 mil toda la noche, 300 mil one hour offered. Didn't negotiate. Wasn't interested.

Know a little Spanish. It's not that hard to get some basics. No puedo ayuda todos is pretty useful. Ya lo tengo came in handy a lot. They may not even be correct but they get the point across.

It's a late night city. Like really late night. Do your sightseeing during the day. Have a siesta. There's no one at LDV until 11:00 PM. The party goes until 4:00 AM though. Expect noise. It's all good. Party like you're young again (assuming you aren't still).

LDV and Space. Ok, I went into Space a few times. I didn't really feel it though. I spent more time in LDV. One night Space was charging a 20 mil cover. I laughed and went back into LDV. Honestly, LDV was the place I really enjoyed. That might not be true for everyone, but it might give some insight into my preferences.

LDV gets crowded! Like seriously can't move crowded. One minute it's empty then it's 11:30 pm and you can't move. Every night of the week. It's also fun. You can't sit though unless you're in some sort of group that has arranged to spend enough money to reserve a table. Who needs to sit though? You can't dance if you're sitting!

What else can I say. The girls are that hot. At least most of them. They'll spend time dancing with you even if you don't know what you're doing. You will probably end up buying them a drink or two. No big deal. Even at inflated club prices a beer is only 17 mil. It's fun. Then you pick one and she takes you to one of the short time motels which, as I mentioned, aren't awful. If you end up stuck with the same girl you went with the night before latching onto you, and are too nice to blow her off, console yourself with the fact that she's hot, it's fun, and the sex was good. It's not a wham bam thank you senorita is what I'm saying. It's a night out at the club where you always get the girl in the end. Oh. I didn't haggle here. 250 mil was what I was offered and I took it. If I should be ashamed, I'm sorry.

Next time, now that I have a feel for it, I'll try to be a little more adventurous. I'm certainly curious about some of those clubs outside of the walled city. And there will be a next time. Colombia (Cartagena and Medellin anyway) is beautiful, and a great time. I'll be back. Thanks for all the information you provided me before I went, and maybe this will help someone else.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2431618]On day 4 of 5 on our first trip here, staying in the walled city and a great airBNB my buddy and I have had awesome times finding girls at clock tower, tinder, photoprepagos, we might hit LDV tonight just haven't had the need to so far. Plenty of 8's and 9's in our opinion and all are accepting 150 mil.

Overall we find the girls are more generous than the girls in DR or CR (our past mongering experiences).

Thanks to all who passed along valuable info leading up to our trip.[/QUOTE]Never had to pay 150 k.

Thanks Triskc — good report, just what a soon to be first toner needed to read!

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2431983]Never had to pay 150 k.[/QUOTE]You're welcome to expand on your response so we can get a clearer idea on the rates from your experience and the girls that came along.

The previous poster had seen a lot of 8's and 9's, and in my 20/20 vision I just can't corroborate it.

Well, if you pooled 8's and 9's from the clubs at peak hours and all in parted with less than 150 K COP, kudos to you. I'm not that charming.

[QUOTE=Questner;2432096]You're welcome to expand on your response so we can get a clearer idea on the rates from your experience and the girls that came along.

The previous poster had seen a lot of 8's and 9's, and in my 20/20 vision I just can't corroborate it.

Well, if you pooled 8's and 9's from the clubs at peak hours and all in parted with less than 150 K COP, kudos to you. I'm not that charming.[/QUOTE]In my experiences with the Clock Tower, LDV, Bocagrande and Tinder 100 k has been a sufficient offer. Yes some chicas will shoot the higher price but the key is to first tell them what you are offering and not to ask them how much. If you do this then they most certainly will quote you a higher rate.

To the gentleman that was wondering about the 50 k rooms, yes that is the rate for 1 hour at Hotel and Suites near the Clock Tower, LDV and Space. If you go at the time the clubs let out there is a good chance that all the rooms can be booked.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2432203]In my experiences with the Clock Tower, LDV, Bocagrande and Tinder 100 k has been a sufficient offer. Yes some chicas will shoot the higher price but the key is to first tell them what you are offering and not to ask them how much. If you do this then they most certainly will quote you a higher rate.

To the gentleman that was wondering about the 50 k rooms, yes that is the rate for 1 hour at Hotel and Suites near the Clock Tower, LDV and Space. If you go at the time the clubs let out there is a good chance that all the rooms can be booked.[/QUOTE]Yes, I paid 50 K at nearby Ofi Hotel. Some accepted 150 K, but others flatly refused, and some only started at 300 K and not even budged. 100 K is basically what I paid in CTG 10 years ago. I see 200 K as fair rate, but parted with much more on occasion.

I had an enjoyable few days in Medellin in 2018, with several sessions in the El Centro casas for 40-60 k, which I reported on. I've gone through 6 pages of the Cartagena forum, and haven't found info on anything similar. Is there anything like the MDE casas in Cartagena? Thanks for any help.

[QUOTE=Trilon;2372128]If you're on the fence, pull the trigger. I'm glad I did before visiting a friend in Peru. My Spanish is basic level one, not conversational. I did a lot of pointing and used simple words. If someone wants your money, they will work with you. With smartphones, translator apps, and forums like this, you don't have an excuse. Book your flight and see how you feel afterwards because you have 24 hours to refund it.

Read the last 80-100 pages of the forum, at least. Learn to count to 300 without assistance. Just add "mil pesos" to everything. Message the Airbnb owner if bringing girls are okay. I had a private / direct entrance, so that helps stop a possible building policy from getting in the way. However, without a layer of security checking IDs, you assume the risk of no help if something goes wrong. I didn't have any problems after several girls, maybe I was just lucky.

You're going to get quoted prices from 60 k pesos online to $200 USD offline. I purposely sampled girls from both price ends to find out for myself. I found the more expensive ones were more aggressive at marketing and were just willing to ask those prices. My favorites ended up being the more economical ones, 120 k pesos, that would be way out of my league back home. Try to open with your offer first..[/QUOTE]Damn this sounds like a fantasy novela.

LDV Space Isis the clock tower. I seriously don't see what his are talking about. Regardless if it was a weekday or the weekend the talent was disheartening. The girls prices are so obnoxious here that I can't find it feasible to pay for a girl unless she is fucking fine. I keep reading on here where everyone keeps saying these girls are super hot but I'm just not seeing it. After coming from Medellin this talent pool just isn't cutting it. Yes I know that everyone has different tastes but regardless of your into flacas like me or thicker women. Young or older. Tall or short. None of that matters in the scale of how hot a girl is. Pretty face nice smile nice natural ass. That's the bare minimum that I seek. Obviously energy and personality mean a lot more at times but the only spots worth hanging out at are LDV and the clock tower and all I see are average or below average looking women. And these ugly ass bitches got the nerve to ask for 200 mil plus for a fucking hour. I swear this scene is pathetic. I've actually seen hotter girls at playa Hollywood during the day then I've seen at night. And trust me I have tried to lower my standards. My main point is these spots are not full of 8 and 9's. Your lucky to find one or two of those on any given night. Just giving a new perspective to anyone getting hyped from reading so these fantasy stories that are on this thread so you know to expect reality.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2431426]I totally agree with you. But most of the time you can tell after you have a few drinks with the babe if the odds are in your favor in landing a beast in the bed. If she's fine as hell and there's some good chemistry. I'm going for it and giving up that extra 30 bucks. All day, everyday, twice on Sundays.[/QUOTE]Why are you buying drinks for prostitutes? Are they giving you anything for free? With me it's the principle. And I enjoy rejecting the ones who even dare asking me to buy them a drink. That also shows me by their reactions if they are even worth me wasting my time and money on. If a ***** gives me a stank attitude after I tell her I don't buy drinks I can only imagine what sex will be like with her. Ya'll out here wining and dining these hoes are the reason why they all seem to feel entitled to a fucking drink from me.

Anyone have any recent recommendations for massage parlors here in Cartagena? I am not looking for a brothel or a prostitute. That obviously isn't hard to find here LOL. But I'm looking for some spots that I can get a nice legit massage and a happy ending of course. Tried searching this thread but nothing specific came up and online Google searches aren't helpful. Let's not even start with asking around. These taxi guys only seem to care about taking you to brothels because that's obviously where they will get the biggest cut from bringing customers. Any help would be very much appreciated.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2433167]Why are you buying drinks for prostitutes? Are they giving you anything for free? With me it's the principle. And I enjoy rejecting the ones who even dare asking me to buy them a drink. That also shows me by their reactions if they are even worth me wasting my time and money on. If a ***** gives me a stank attitude after I tell her I don't buy drinks I can only imagine what sex will be like with her. Ya'll out here wining and dining these hoes are the reason why they all seem to feel entitled to a fucking drink from me.[/QUOTE]Ohhhh geez, LOL.

For me it just depends on the particular chica and the moment.

If she's a whiner, taker, pain in the booty, etc, of course I ignore her, get rid of her, whatever.

If she's sweet, cool, I'm diggin the vibe, of course I'll offer her a drink.

It's for my enjoyment as well, to chill with her, chat with her, feel her out a bit, plus I think it's a cool thing to do, if she's a cool chica as well.

I don't lump all WGs in the same heep.

There are the good, the bad and the ugly.

May be your blanket policy not to buy a drink for a chica.

That's great. For you.

You say they give you nothing for free, well I too may not get it for free, however, I do get it Good.

I'm good at sensing and building a good, cool vibe.

For me that pays off Big.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2433167]Why are you buying drinks for prostitutes? Are they giving you anything for free? With me it's the principle. And I enjoy rejecting the ones who even dare asking me to buy them a drink. That also shows me by their reactions if they are even worth me wasting my time and money on. If a ***** gives me a stank attitude after I tell her I don't buy drinks I can only imagine what sex will be like with her. Ya'll out here wining and dining these hoes are the reason why they all seem to feel entitled to a fucking drink from me.[/QUOTE]My man, everyone has there own way that they get down. I'm not a cheap cat that worries about a few drinks. I strike up a conversations with regular people at a hotel bar and the next thing you know, I'll buy a few rounds of drinks for a complete stranger just because. I like partying with fine women, which is why I fly all the way to Colombia. That's just how I roll. I'm going to buy a chick that I'm hanging out with in any of the spots a few drinks if she's cool. Your way works for you, mines works for me. I apologize in advance if me buying some babes a few drinks is making it more difficult for you when your out doing your thing. I'll be there in a few weeks and me and all my boys will be having a great time. Certainly not taking any of these babes to dinner but a few drinks, not a problem for me. BUT, I do feel you when the random babe walks up out of no where and goes "one drink for me". And your not even talking or said one word to the babe. But If I full on dancing and partying with a babe, drinks will be aflowing!!

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2433165]LDV Space Isis the clock tower. I seriously don't see what his are talking about. Regardless if it was a weekday or the weekend the talent was disheartening. The girls prices are so obnoxious here that I can't find it feasible to pay for a girl unless she is fucking fine. I keep reading on here where everyone keeps saying these girls are super hot but I'm just not seeing it. After coming from Medelland this talent pool just isn't cutting it. Yes I know that everyone has different tastes but regardless of your into flacas like me or thicker women. Young or older. Tall or short. None of that matters in the scale of how hot a girl is. Pretty face nice smile nice natural ass. That's the bare minimum that I seek. Obviously energy and personality mean a lot more at times but the only spots worth hanging out at are LDV and the clock tower and all I see are average or below average looking women. And these ugly ass bitches got the nerve to ask for 200 mil plus for a fucking hour. I swear this scene is pathetic. I've actually seen hotter girls at playa Hollywood during the day then I've seen at night. And trust me I have tried to lower my standards. My main point is these spots are not full of 8 and 9's. Your lucky to find one or two of those on any given night. Just giving a new perspective to anyone getting hyped from reading so these fantasy stories that are on this thread so you know to expect reality.[/QUOTE]Man, I don't know what your standards are! Beyonce gots to be a 6 or 7 to you because me and all my boys love Cartagena over Medellin and we all pull some fine ass babes from these joints. We have been to Medellin and prefer Cartagena. Don't really like the places where you got to tag the babe on site. I like the Ducle Vita scene. For those that know, its a miniature Club Help in Rio to me. I've seen some real stars and some not so cool ones also. Never left empty handed in all the nights I've partied in CTG.

[QUOTE=Triskc;2431959]I read a lot of information on this forum before making my first trip to Colombia, and, even though I doubt I have a lot of new information to share, I thought I should contribute at least a little bit. Maybe it will help someone?

I stayed in Centro. I wasn't very adventurous being my first experience with the place. I spent a few days just taking tours, sightseeing, and enjoying the atmosphere. The beaches in the city aren't great, but it was only eight mil to get there by taxi, so I saw no reason not to stay in the heart of the action and night life instead of at some tower down in Bocagrande.

I stayed in hotels. No they weren't guest friendly. It doesn't matter. There are several hourly places within easy walking distance of the clock tower / clubs, and they're perfectly fine for what you're using them for. The girls know where they are and it's perfectly safe. They charged 50 mil. I have no idea whether that was right or for how long I paid. No one ever knocked on a door, and I was there for more than a hour sometimes.

I didn't feel like picking up anyone from the plaza de Los coches (clock tower). I could have. It's just very public. Also, there are definitely some of questionable age there. Better to go elsewhere where you know they're checking ID unless you've seen them in both places. And you will. The same girls in the square will go to the clubs later...[/QUOTE]Great post! I roll the same way. I love Dulce Vita! Guys been giving me a hard time here for paying 250 k mil for the babes in Dulce Vita. I'm going to keep tearing that 250 k off and not looking back! Glad you had fun.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2431496]Weak mongers will be weak mongers.

Like Forest Gump says "stupid is as stupid does".

You don't have to give her extra 30 or any extra anything.

Do you pay extra anywhere else for things?

You are willfully damaging the economics of the market.

Please stop.[/QUOTE]No! LOL. I'm not going to be haggling all night. If I can't get the babe to budge from her price and I really want to tap it. I'm breaking bread!

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2433178]Anyone have any recent recommendations for massage parlors here in Cartagena? I am not looking for a brothel or a prostitute. That obviously isn't hard to find here LOL. But I'm looking for some spots that I can get a nice legit massage and a happy ending of course. Tried searching this thread but nothing specific came up and online Google searches aren't helpful. Let's not even start with asking around. These taxi guys only seem to care about taking you to brothels because that's obviously where they will get the biggest cut from bringing customers. Any help would be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]My advice, Pop up Google maps. Search for "masaje", then scope out the results. You might have to try a few to get what you want, but I'm sure it's available.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2433181]Ohhhh geez, LOL.

For me it just depends on the particular chica and the moment.

If she's a whiner, taker, pain in the booty, etc, of course I ignore her, get rid of her, whatever.

If she's sweet, cool, I'm diggin the vibe, of course I'll offer her a drink.

It's for my enjoyment as well, to chill with her, chat with her, feel her out a bit, plus I think it's a cool thing to do, if she's a cool chica as well.

I don't lump all WGs in the same heep.

There are the good, the bad and the ugly.

May be your blanket policy not to buy a drink for a chica.

That's great. For you.

You say they give you nothing for free, well I too may not get it for free, however, I do get it Good.

I'm good at sensing and building a good, cool vibe.

For me that pays off Big.[/QUOTE]Heck, I'll go one step further. If I like the girl and I think she would look really good in a certain type of dress, I'll take her shopping. 20 k? I get to enjoy seeing her in it, I get to enjoy taking it off of her and you can be certain she is going to show at least 50 k worth of appreciation.

I also bring nice smelling, good body wash and shampoo. I get to lather them up and rinse them down and they're guaranteed to smell good for me.

Buy a few drinks, drop a few compliments, and the risk of getting mechanical or rushed service drops way down.

[QUOTE=Questner;2432546]Yes, I paid 50 K at nearby Ofi Hotel. Some accepted 150 K, but others flatly refused, and some only started at 300 K and not even budged. 100 K is basically what I paid in CTG 10 years ago. I see 200 K as fair rate, but parted with much more on occasion.[/QUOTE]At the clubs you increase your rate chances at the very beginning of the night before the crowd and clients and towards the end of the night when they are choosing. The clock tower is more prevalent with reasonable rates after 11 pm. The beach has its own dynamic. If you know how to work the beach it will be to your advantage.

[QUOTE=GameTime;2433249]My man, everyone has there own way that they get down. I'm not a cheap cat that worries about a few drinks. I strike up a conversations with regular people at a hotel bar and the next thing you know, I'll buy a few rounds of drinks for a complete stranger just because. I like partying with fine women, which is why I fly all the way to Colombia. That's just how I roll. I'm going to buy a chick that I'm hanging out with in any of the spots a few drinks if she's cool. Your way works for you, mines works for me. I apologize in advance if me buying some babes a few drinks is making it more difficult for you when your out doing your thing. I'll be there in a few weeks and me and all my boys will be having a great time. Certainly not taking any of these babes to dinner but a few drinks, not a problem for me. BUT, I do feel you when the random babe walks up out of no where and goes "one drink for me". And your not even talking or said one word to the babe. But If I full on dancing and partying with a babe, drinks will be aflowing!![/QUOTE]I've had times that I have bought drinks for these women. I have done it mainly for girls that I have already fucked and if they were deserving then yes I have offered. But it's a turn off when they ask. If I'm feeling nice then yes I have offered. But this also goes to the fact that my standards are not being met here. These girls are all asking high ass prices so why am I going to add more free shit to the mix. Especially for average looking women in my perspective. These girls are not completely fea. There are girls who I would definitely fuck with if it was on a regular basis but since I'm paying then I want the best of the best. I think that's my personal problem because that has given me many problems in the past because the really hot ones are the ones less likely to budge from their certain high prices because most guys will pay without negotiating. I have fucked so much this trip that even when I take a cialis if the girl I'm fucking isn't fine my dick can't stay hard. Had that happen one day. Thought I was having issues but then the second girl was way more attractive to me and I had no issues fucking her for like an hour straight. So In essence I'm not knocking the next guy for doing what he wants with his money. Or at least I'm trying not to. I was just stating my opinion on the fact that these girls don't give shit for free so why should we. And yes I tell a lot of them this statement. God thing my Spanish is good enough. Also many of these girls will dance on you just for the chance at a date. Maybe a beer will keep them grinding on your dick longer though. Most of the time I don't even have no intentions of fucking at night so I'm not one to waste anyone's time. I see something I like and after a few minutes I decide whether I want her number or not and move on. The few ones I have seen that I like either don't even bother with the club and just stand outside or some guy decides to wife her up for the night LOL.

All boats to islands cancelled. Verified with my Air bnb host who's friend is a boat operator. I wanted to see the dolphins. That's out. Beaches also closed. Went to Clock Tower for my 10:00 pm date. Police running everyone home starting 9:30 for 10:00 pm city curfew. No date. OK, I had a date with my hand which was older and fatter than I remember. That sucked! Afraid how many girls will be scared to see foreigners or any guy with the virus scare. If they need money bad enough? Just hope we can find an ST hotel. This virus thing is crazy.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2435033]All boats to islands cancelled. Verified with my Air bnb host who's friend is a boat operator. I wanted to see the dolphins. That's out. Beaches also closed. Went to Clock Tower for my 10:00 pm date. Police running everyone home starting 9:30 for 10:00 pm city curfew. No date. OK, I had a date with my hand which was older and fatter than I remember. That sucked! Afraid how many girls will be scared to see foreigners or any guy with the virus scare. If they need money bad enough? Just hope we can find an ST hotel. This virus thing is crazy.[/QUOTE]It sucks can't do anything I'm leaving right now to Bogota and flying home tomorrow. Staring today there is a curfew from 6 pm to 4 am and a 24 hour curfew during the weekend.

Last night there was a 10:00 pm curfew. Tonight it was 6:00 pm. The amount of people walking the streets is about half what it was 3 days ago that I got here. Only 5 girls working the Clock Tower scene at 3:00 pm. Later at 5:00 pm saw 11 girls trying to get customers around the Clock Tower.

ARA store like a Dollar Store has 1/2 cleaning stuff and 1/2 food items but 1/2 the selection of a Dollar Store. Yesterday bought some water. Not busy. Do not remember anything being out of stock. Today between 3:00 pm - 5:30 pm there was a line of 10-15 people to get inside. They would let them in in spurts of like every 10 minutes. Not sure why. Nobody came out with loads of bags, just 2-3 bags.

Exito = Walmart = Tesco.

They were a little slow yesterday and today. Paper napkins and toilet paper a plenty. No problems there.

My Airbnb host said he has had many cancellations.

I'm not surprised at all. The lady who usually rents me a place told me everyone cancelled and that the building is closed off completely. They are going to take extra measures in Cartagena because its a tourist city and there were more foreigners showing up there than anywhere else in Colombia.

Get out. Get what refunds you can. It's probably going to be 6 months to two years before things get back to normal.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2435460]

Get out. Get what refunds you can. It's probably going to be 6 months to two years before things get back to normal.[/QUOTE]That's crazy. And unfortunately, most likely true.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2435460]I'm not surprised at all. The lady who usually rents me a place told me everyone cancelled and that the building is closed off completely. They are going to take extra measures in Cartagena because its a tourist city and there were more foreigners showing up there than anywhere else in Colombia.

Get out. Get what refunds you can. It's probably going to be 6 months to two years before things get back to normal.[/QUOTE]Copa Air has shut down its entire operations for at least a full month. Even if I want to go, there is no way to do so. They are not issuing refunds but just credit that would last till the end of the year. Hope they don't go bankrupt, I still need to use that credit. Also I have to push out my original AirBNB reservation to July, since I am not getting able to get refunds. Hopefully I don't have to push it further to a later date, but you never know how long this will last.

Do you guys think things will calm down enough to be making trips to Cartagena in mid August?

I know none of you are probably medical experts (and even they probably wouldn't know) but I'm just seeing dirt cheap ticket prices from LA in August and I'm so tempted to buy.

Ugh.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2436529]Do you guys think things will calm down enough to be making trips to Cartagena in mid August?

I know none of you are probably medical experts (and even they probably wouldn't know) but I'm just seeing dirt cheap ticket prices from LA in August and I'm so tempted to buy.

Ugh.[/QUOTE]It's impossible to tell without looking at existing data and making an educated guess. China had the first case December 31st 2019. We're almost three months after and they're starting to open up. The earliest this starts to subside is June. However, and this a big HOWEVER, China used some pretty draconian measures. Full lockdown. People being tracked by their cellphones. Street sweepers spraying everything. They basically went all in once their numbers spiked.

Colombia may avoid this all together if they acted quickly enough. Its impossible to tell because I don't believe they have done much testing or can do much testing. One thing to keep an eye on is reports of hospitalization and deaths there. I suspect in two weeks time they will know based on that.

The other side of this equation is your home country. The US is hurtling toward becoming the next Italy. Far too slow to react and isolate. Lockdowns are happening but I don't think fast enough.

Now lets assume by mid June the cases are in the decline in both the US and Colombia. You're still not taking into account how many businesses will be open in Cartagena. Will the Venezuelan border be open again? Anytime this year? That's a lot of Venezuelan pussy that would be locked out.

I wouldn't be booking shit right now. I'd wait until at least late May to see where things are headed. I don't think all countries will open up at once. We'll continue seeing travel restrictions for the rest of the year.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2436532]It's impossible to tell without looking at existing data and making an educated guess. China had the first case December 31st 2019. We're almost three months after and they're starting to open up. The earliest this starts to subside is June. However, and this a big HOWEVER, China used some pretty draconian measures. Full lockdown. People being tracked by their cellphones. Street sweepers spraying everything. They basically went all in once their numbers spiked.

Colombia may avoid this all together if they acted quickly enough. Its impossible to tell because I don't believe they have done much testing or can do much testing. One thing to keep an eye on is reports of hospitalization and deaths there. I suspect in two weeks time they will know based on that.

The other side of this equation is your home country. The US is hurtling toward becoming the next Italy. Far too slow to react and isolate. Lockdowns are happening but I don't think fast enough.

Now lets assume by mid June the cases are in the decline in both the US and Colombia. You're still not taking into account how many businesses will be open in Cartagena. Will the Venezuelan border be open again? Anytime this year? That's a lot of Venezuelan pussy that would be locked out.

I wouldn't be booking shit right now. I'd wait until at least late May to see where things are headed. I don't think all countries will open up at once. We'll continue seeing travel restrictions for the rest of the year.[/QUOTE]You definitely make a lot of sense. And yeah I'm almost more worried about getting back to America than I am of Colombia itself (the virus itself hasn't been as big an issue for Latin and South American countries so far but that perhaps could be due to lack of testing).

But the situation seems to get worse and worse each day in the states and my state (California) is one of the very worst for it.

I thought about booking if the airline company offered a free cancellation policy. However the cheap fare I saw was for Copa airlines. I've read that they may go bankrupt altogether soon so probably not a good idea to book with them anyway.

Spirit Air was offering really cheap flights starting in early June. I scored one and immediately cancelled after reading advice below.

June is really to early to expect normal travel and I don't want to be the first gringo who flies in from the US only to be self quarantined.

I am hoping for late July / August, best case.

Hey guys,

I was wondering can I just pay every girl I bang 20 USD. I want to do this to confuse the chick to thinking it's enough LOL. So I'll just hand them a 20 dollar bill and head out, can I do it?

[QUOTE=Sleazball02;2437666]Hey guys,

I was wondering can I just pay every girl I bang 20 USD. I want to do this to confuse the chick to thinking it's enough LOL. So I'll just hand them a 20 dollar bill and head out, can I do it?[/QUOTE]No. Chances are no Colombian women will ever visit your mom's basement and the chance of you ever leaving that basement for Colombia is too small to be worth considering.

The women know the exchange rate. They have seen US dollars before. They aren't stupid.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2437723]No. Chances are no Colombian women will ever visit your mom's basement and the chance of you ever leaving that basement for Colombia is too small to be worth considering.

The women know the exchange rate. They have seen US dollars before. They aren't stupid.[/QUOTE]Chill bro it's Colombia they aren't that smart trust me LOL and don't you pay after anyways? I never pay before, so I just bang them and leave. While you guys pay 200 k I pay like 50 k or nothing at all.

[QUOTE=Sleazball02;2437729]Chill bro it's Colombia they aren't that smart trust me LOL and don't you pay after anyways? I never pay before, so I just bang them and leave. While you guys pay 200 k I pay like 50 k or nothing at all.[/QUOTE]I'm betting on the "nothing at all."

Why would I trust you? You asked an incredibly stupid question, you have no posting history and you've contributed nothing to indicate you have ever been to Colombia. Besides, if you're so experienced with Colombia and always pay 50 k or nothing at all", you'd realize that a $20 bill hasn't been worth less than 50 k for about 5 years. Why would you ask if you could get away with paying 80 k for girls you always get for 50 k?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2437743]I'm betting on the "nothing at all."

Why would I trust you? You asked an incredibly stupid question, you have no posting history and you've contributed nothing to indicate you have ever been to Colombia. Besides, if you're so experienced with Colombia and always pay 50 k or nothing at all", you'd realize that a $20 bill hasn't been worth less than 50 k for about 5 years. Why would you ask if you could get away with paying 80 k for girls you always get for 50 k?[/QUOTE]I wonder what the record is for 1st post to banned member - 4 posts has to be close to it. Sadly that troll will probably be back with a new name and new game

Well since Sleezball has fouled up the forum and I don't have a goddamn thing to do its time for me to give up the report I owe you guys since all the info I got here really helped. I'm somewhat new to mongering, about 2.5 years. About a dozen trips to Hong Kong Club (I live in SD) and 3 trips to Cuba where I have 2 regulars whom I'm texting with a lot and several other HOT Cubanas as one timers. I went the last 8 days of January. First off you have to know that I had badly sprained my ankle on the last night of a Cuba trip 1. 5 months before. Luckily it was the last night of a great trip. Was drunk and stepped in a deep pothole on a dark street. Havana is dangerous that way but very safe otherwise. Thought about cancelling but went anyway, it was very painful to walk. Did a lot of swimming in the ocean for rehab. Arrived and settled in a luxury oceanfront condo in Boca first night about midnight. Since I was hurting and it was a long travel day decided to check out mileroticos. Looked at all of the chicas and picked out the hottest one. Texting with her and set it up for her to come by. So like half an hour late she says I'm downstairs. Go down and look around nothing but I had forgot my phone. Go back up text, she's there, go back down. Standing around get approached by a local tout, make small talk. I speak some Spanish. Finally a cab that had been parked nearby and must have been watching me pulls up and its a different girl so I'm pissed. She gets out and is a solid 8 but not my type, not a fan of silicone. I send her away but half to pay the cabbie 20 m because he looks like he is going to punch me if I don't. The tout comes over and says he can get me girls. I said you just saw what I did, I need a hot girl. He starts showing me pics and I say no to about 10 of them. Then I see 2 that I like and we exchange numbers and I call it a day.

Next night he comes by with M a Colombian and she fits the bill. Its 300 m for an hour. Up in the condo we get at it right away. She never mentions money, time or condoms. After she sucks me every way you could think of for about half an hour she suddenly mounts me without a condom. I couldn't say no. She ends up staying over 3 hours with 2 pops one in her mouth and one on her stomach. Never mention money, I pay her the 300, she counts out 100 in front of me puts it in one place and the rest in another. I ask is that 100 for the tout she says yes. I say next time its just between us and its 200. She agrees and we make a date for the night after tomorrow. M is the first girl in the pics, a solid 8 maybe 8.5.

Next night its L. A real pro and hot at least a 9. When I saw how hot she was I had security register her as a guest meaning she could come and go as she pleased from the building. She works strictly by phone and referrals. No street, clubs or online. You should have heard her work the phone. Wants to know what the guys do for a living and wants pictures of them Doesn't like Italians. She is more business than M and is a Vennie. Wants the 300 upfront and mentions time. Needs a condom for everything which I don't like. I always want that BBBJ. The sex is great and she stays 1. 5 hours. I ask and she is paying the tout 50. We exchange numbers. She says she can come back the next night but I tell her I have another girl coming over (M). She is like ohhh otra chica. About 2 hours later she is texting saying she can come back for TLN for another 300. I say 250 and she agrees. I think about it for a minute and realizing it was like 2 am and I was beat just wanted to sleep. Plus was not too happy about the covered BJ even though she was good at it. She sends a few more texts asking what up and I ignore them. I know she wants more and figure ignoring her is best to shape her up for next time. Next day after thinking about it I told security she was not a guest anymore and not to let her up. Was pissed about the covered BJ.

Night 3 I take M to dinner and we are getting along great. She ends up staying until 4 am when she has to leave because of the condo visitor rules. Never mentions money or condoms. We had all sorts of sex on and off for about 5 hours. After that insane session I just put 300 on the counter for her, she deserved the extra 100.

Night 4 I took a break. Had got a lot of sun and did a lot of swimming for the ankle which was killing me.

Day 5 I decide to text L after letting her think about it for a while. She offers up $300 for 24 hours full GFE. I throw out $250 and don't hear back from her. Since I am too injured to go hunting around and she is so hot I figure I'll give it a go. About an hour later the doorbell rings and its security saying L is downstairs and wants to come up. Just then my phone blows up and she is upset and wondering why security won't let her up, she knows the rules well. While I'm thinking about what to do with her the elevator door opens and its her with another guard. She has 2 large bags of stuff with her, walks over to me, looks up and is like don't you want me? I say alright come on in since you are here, it was classic. Ended up paying her for 2 days and she threw in the 3rd night on the house. We had fun. She is a smart girl. Finally did get the BJ sin condom the last 2 nights. I took her to Playa Blanca and nice dinners and lunches. It was nice to have company at meals, especially one that looked like her. Also ordered some delivery from Rappi and bought her a sexy bikini for the beach which was fun because I had her try on several for me in a little shop. We are in touch and I will be seeing her again.

To wrap up, I loved Cartagena so much I booked another trip for the end of April but of course all that fun is now cancelled.

OK can't seem to get the pics to upload, will try later. Was able to do it once on the Havana forum.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIpe1PFtTsc[/URL]

This is pretty interesting, I'm sure that it is shut down at this time. It is a bit like Santa Fe But Santa Fe has 50 x + more girls. And way Hotter. Hopefully will be back eventually.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2438118][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIpe1PFtTsc[/URL]

This is pretty interesting, I'm sure that it is shut down at this time. It is a bit like Santa Fe But Santa Fe has 50 x + more girls. And way Hotter. Hopefully will be back eventually.[/QUOTE]Why is this interesting? It's pretty much ground zero for chicas in Cartagena. And instead of 30 k you pay 200 k.

The pics won't upload, the files are too large.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2438307]The pics won't upload, the files are too large.[/QUOTE]I do not know what device you are using, but to get around that problem where the photo size is too large, I pull up the pic on my desktop and then take a screen shot with the Snipping Tool, the resulting file is small enough to upload to the forum.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2438281]Why is this interesting? It's pretty much ground zero for chicas in Cartagena. And instead of 30 k you pay 200 k.[/QUOTE]$200 k. LOL, I bet I could get it for less.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2438118][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIpe1PFtTsc[/URL]

This is pretty interesting, I'm sure that it is shut down at this time. It is a bit like Santa Fe But Santa Fe has 50 x + more girls. And way Hotter. Hopefully will be back eventually.[/QUOTE]Good video man. Where is this "Santa Fe" you speak off?

[QUOTE=TyDown;2438398]Good video man. Where is this "Santa Fe" you speak off?[/QUOTE]Bogota, Downtown red light area, when it is prime time 600+ girls. Best red light area in the world in terms of quality, quantity, price.

Of course that is shut down for at least a month, who knows?

Here is Medellin, Bogota beats Medellin too. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL9MY5k7Gng&t=92s[/URL].

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2438307]The pics won't upload, the files are too large.[/QUOTE]I think file size is 600 x400. Use an online editor or your computer basic edit tool.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2438307]The pics won't upload, the files are too large.[/QUOTE]If you have Windows on your PC / laptop please use this:

[URL]https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/resize-image/9p87m9tknkvl?activetab=pivot:overviewtab[/URL]

The maximum size is 390.6 KB 648 X648.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2438451]If you have Windows on your PC / laptop please use this:

[URL]https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/resize-image/9p87m9tknkvl?activetab=pivot:overviewtab[/URL]

The maximum size is 390.6 KB 648 X648.[/QUOTE]Thanks V that was easy. Their faces are cute as well.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2438402]Bogota, Downtown red light area, when it is prime time 600+ girls. Best red light area in the world in terms of quality, quantity, price.

Of course that is shut down for at least a month, who knows?

Here is Medellin, Bogota beats Medellin too. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL9MY5k7Gng&t=92s[/URL].[/QUOTE]Okay thanks Woodman! I've been to Medellin a couple times, beautiful place. Looks like Cartagena is next on my list. I would love to go to Bogota, but the altitude / elevation is the only thing that I'm concerned about. Anything above 8,000 feet and I get a real bad headache.

[QUOTE=Sleazball02;2437729]Chill bro it's Colombia they aren't that smart trust me LOL and don't you pay after anyways? I never pay before, so I just bang them and leave. While you guys pay 200 k I pay like 50 k or nothing at all.[/QUOTE]50 K! Come on man. For 50 k you got to be nailing crack heads. None of these fine ass babes are taking 50 k and they are not stupid. I told some of my boys that go to Colombia regularly about this and they all laughed. Keep it real on the boards my man. 50 k! Come on don't spread fake news or qualify your claim by saying your hitting the trash crackheads for 50 k.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2438402]Bogota, Downtown red light area, when it is prime time 600+ girls. Best red light area in the world in terms of quality, quantity, price.

Of course that is shut down for at least a month, who knows?

Here is Medellin, Bogota beats Medellin too. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL9MY5k7Gng&t=92s[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yeah great video. What else is there to do in Medellin besides nightlife and mongering?

[QUOTE=TyDown;2438599]Okay thanks Woodman! I've been to Medellin a couple times, beautiful place. Looks like Cartagena is next on my list. I would love to go to Bogota, but the altitude / elevation is the only thing that I'm concerned about. Anything above 8,000 feet and I get a real bad headache.[/QUOTE]FYI, I found the pollution in Bogota to be really bad. I wish I had a mask some days.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2438611]Yeah great video. What else is there to do in Medellin besides nightlife and mongering?[/QUOTE]Plenty. Guatape is probably the #1 thing, absolutely beautiful area with a lake that you can jet ski in for dirt cheap prices. Also if hiking is your thing, there is more than a dozen great options for that. Also have various tours depending on your interests (example Escobar / coffee etc).

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2438402]Bogota, Downtown red light area, when it is prime time 600+ girls. Best red light area in the world in terms of quality, quantity, price.

Of course that is shut down for at least a month, who knows?

Here is Medellin, Bogota beats Medellin too. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL9MY5k7Gng&t=92s[/URL].[/QUOTE]I've heard Bogota requires a much greater knowledge of Spanish than Medellin and Cartagena? I consider myself a beginner / moderate when comes to speaking / understanding Spanish but I did fine in Medellin. I have the confidence that I would do well in Cartagena too. But I think Bogota may simply require a bit more Spanish than I know. Plus I've heard it's more dangerous with crimes and such than Medellin / Cartagena but I assume that much like all cities, it depends on the areas.

I have plenty of free time now due to everything going on so perhaps I will brush up on my Spanish more and work on improving a bit there.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2438857]Plenty. Guatape is probably the #1 thing, absolutely beautiful area with a lake that you can jet ski in for dirt cheap prices. Also if hiking is your thing, there is more than a dozen great options for that. Also have various tours depending on your interests (example Escobar / coffee etc).[/QUOTE]Thanks. I do love to hike and that lake looks like a lot of fun for jet skiing. Maybe I'll add Medellin to my next trip to Cartagena.

Does anybody have any tips for recharging a chica's phone from the USA? What sites work best for this, promotions, etc. I do this for a few of my Cuban novias and they love it. All sorts of sexy pics and vids get sent after a recharge. It comes back to me many times over when I finally get over there with some excellent long time service. Its a good way to send them something without breaking the bank and since they are stuck en casa are likely using a lot of phone time.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2438916]Does anybody have any tips for recharging a chica's phone from the USA? What sites work best for this, promotions, etc. I do this for a few of my Cuban novias and they love it. All sorts of sexy pics and vids get sent after a recharge. It comes back to me many times over when I finally get over there with some excellent long time service. Its a good way to send them something without breaking the bank and since they are stuck en casa are likely using a lot of phone time.[/QUOTE]I've used this App for years, works Great!

This one also works great. I even use it in country. [URL]https://www.ding.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Beavis;2438931]This one also works great. I even use it in country. [URL]https://www.ding.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks Beavis. Turns out I've already been using them just didn't know it. They also have a site called recargas a Cuba and had all my info and recharge history.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2438858]I've heard Bogota requires a much greater knowledge of Spanish than Medellin and Cartagena? I consider myself a beginner / moderate when comes to speaking / understanding Spanish but I did fine in Medellin. I have the confidence that I would do well in Cartagena too. But I think Bogota may simply require a bit more Spanish than I know. Plus I've heard it's more dangerous with crimes and such than Medellin / Cartagena but I assume that much like all cities, it depends on the areas.

I have plenty of free time now due to everything going on so perhaps I will brush up on my Spanish more and work on improving a bit there.[/QUOTE]You're overthinking it. It's not that serious.

Landed Cartagena March 7. Room was way too small. Air conditioner air bounced off the wall into my face and dried my throat and lungs out during the night so caught a nasty common cold for 4 days. Stayed upper Bocagrande Calle 14. Oops too far away. After 6 days moved to Calle 5 in the thick of things. Took a mixture of girls form Skokka, Mileroticos, Photopregos. Hit and miss. 60% older and fatter than pictured / 40 just right. Most 150,000. One claimed she mistyped her Whatsapp message. Price 180 not 120. I gave her a little extra because I was still a bit sick and snuck her in which would cause me to have to cancel the girl I had lined up for the next night. Had one street girl 100,000. Thin so surprised her tummy was as bad as it was. But she knew how to use her inner muscles causing me to blow quickly so OK. Had 2 girls from Palma Bahia behind Holiday Inn Express which their pictures were 5 years younger and many kilograms lighter. In front of Holiday Inn Express is Burger King. I met 3 girls there who took me to the condo next door. All 3 good and pictures were 90-95% match. Had 2 on floor X in same apartment and the 3rd on floor Z.

It is breezy and windy there so the water in disturbed and brown. Most of the beach is wind blown and hard as pavement. The hotels, food, girls are all overpriced which I have read but wanted to check it out for a week+.

Changed to Airbnb in Getsemani area (The Fort). Checked out the girls at the Clock Tower. First one asked for 200. Told her Bocagrande girls go for 150,000 and she accepted. Walked to an ST hotel 10,000. She was good. People watched some more at the Clock Tower and got a number and left at midnight.

Texted the girl I got the number from to meet at 10:00 pm at the statue were we met. Did not happen. Curfew started that night at you guessed it. 10 pm! Took her the next day in the daytime. Small boobs but super cute face, thin, and hot body. Problems. She checked her watch after just 15 minutes. She did that sucking my boobs is extra BS. I sucked a little and did the deed. I explained that the clock watching and boob extra thing will piss off most guys and cause her to get very few repeats. Hottest girl so far happens to be a street girl. Some of the other girls had cute faces but just to fat to show.

Next day I tried one of the websites. Another fat girl but the 6:00 pm curfew was in effect so no time to find a replacement so late in the day so did her. Surprisingly the hot girl the day prior kept sending messages. So I said I would give her another chance the next day at 11:00 am. She was running late and I had to cancel. My Airbnb host informed me they were stopping bus travel between cities so I packed and jumped on a bus to Barranquilla. Since Barranquilla is not filled with tourists I expected more lenient curfew times and knew everything would be cheaper. Mini van of 12 people for 21,000 each.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2439072]You're overthinking it. It's not that serious.[/QUOTE]You don't need to know much Spanish to get your ass laid like crazy in Cartagena plus google translate is a life saver.

This is a good video cartagena Colombia, mostly good for newbies, goes right up to the front door Dolce Vita and Space. At 5:28 looks like the doorman spots the camera LOL. Clock Tower at 1:55,2:26 shows on map hpw to get from clocktower to (LDV Dolce Vita) and Space.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDl3wl1ej8[/URL]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2439540]This is a good video cartagena Colombia, mostly good for newbies, goes right up to the front door Dolce Vita and Space. At 5:28 looks like the doorman spots the camera LOL. Clock Tower at 1:55,2:26 shows on map hpw to get from clocktower to (LDV Dolce Vita) and Space.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDl3wl1ej8[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link, Mojo. Man, I miss being in Colombia so fucking much.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2439540]This is a good video cartagena Colombia, mostly good for newbies, goes right up to the front door Dolce Vita and Space. At 5:28 looks like the doorman spots the camera LOL. Clock Tower at 1:55,2:26 shows on map hpw to get from clocktower to (LDV Dolce Vita) and Space.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDl3wl1ej8[/URL][/QUOTE]The end of an era. I'm glad I spent the last five years or so hitting pussy in Cartagena. It was great! More expensive but really worth it. I suspect this is all over. Cartagena will take some time to recover. Tourism will take at least a year maybe two to recover. The Venezuelan border is closed which will limit the pussy supply in the future.

I'm happy to be proven wrong but I think things will never be the same there, or many other places after this pandemic has past.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2440337]The end of an era. I'm glad I spent the last five years or so hitting pussy in Cartagena. It was great! More expensive but really worth it. I suspect this is all over. Cartagena will take some time to recover. Tourism will take at least a year maybe two to recover. The Venezuelan border is closed which will limit the pussy supply in the future.

I'm happy to be proven wrong but I think things will never be the same there, or many other places after this pandemic has past.[/QUOTE]I have been going to Cartagena for about 11 years. , I do not wish ill for anyone but at the same time I miss the early Cartagena that I first visited and if it is like that again, it might not be so bad for us. I remember when I started going to cartagena in 2009 it seemed like a place for mostly Colombians. Venezuelans had yet to immigrate in large numbers and Cartagena was full of women who flew in from all over Colombia to make some cash and fly back to pay for college or whatever = Paisa from Medellin, Caleños from Cali, chicas from Bucaramanga, Bogota and little places I never heard of. The Clock tower area was not quite as crowded back then but there was plenty of hotties haunting LDV and Elektra which was all a guy really needed. Of course back then if I did pull from the clock tower area it was like 100 k so less than LDV or Elektra. So even if Cartagena becomes a little dead to tourism I think it will get by on life support and there will be at least the local chicas. I believe the chicas will come back. Fingers crossed!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2440374]I have been going to Cartagena for about 11 years. , I do not wish ill for anyone but at the same time I miss the early Cartagena that I first visited and if it is like that again, it might not be so bad for us. I remember when I started going to cartagena in 2009 it seemed like a place for mostly Colombians. Venezuelans had yet to immigrate in large numbers and Cartagena was full of women who flew in from all over Colombia to make some cash and fly back to pay for college or whatever = Paisa from Medellin, Caleos from Cali, chicas from Bucaramanga, Bogota and little places I never heard of. The Clock tower area was not quite as crowded back then but there was plenty of hotties haunting LDV and Elektra which was all a guy really needed. Of course back then if I did pull from the clock tower area it was like 100 k so less than LDV or Elektra. So even if Cartagena becomes a little dead to tourism I think it will get by on life support and there will be at least the local chicas. I believe the chicas will come back. Fingers crossed![/QUOTE]I talk to two chicas from CTG and they're already on the prowl looking for clients. And I thought everyone was supposed to be quarantined!

Location: Bogot, Cali, Cartagena, Medellin.

Event: Humanitarian Flights to Fort Lauderdale on April 15 and 16 - Operated by Spirit Airlines.

The USA Embassy is pleased announce that Spirit Airlines will operate three humanitarian flights. Two flights will depart April 15, one from El Dorado International Airport (BOG) in Bogot and a second flight from Rafael andez International Airport (CTG) in Cartagena. A third flight will depart April 16 from Alfonso Bonilla Aragand International Airport (CLO) in Cali, and then board additional passengers in Jos Mara crdova International Airport (MDE) in Medellin. All three flights will arrive at Fort Lauderdale. Hollywood International Airport (FLL) in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

These flights have been made available to allow USA Citizens and Legal Permanent Residents to return to the United States. Please contact Spirit Airlines directly for seat availability, reservations, and pricing information.

These flights can only be booked online.

If you are interested in returning to the United States, please take advantage of these flights. The USA Government cannot guarantee the ability to arrange flights indefinitely. USA Citizens should return immediately to the United States, unless you are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period.

If you purchase a ticket on one of these flights, and encounter difficulties traveling to the airport from your location, please contact us at [EMAIL]ColombiaEvac@state.gov[/EMAIL] or (57) 1 275-2000. We have received reports that taxis and bus companies continue to operate, albeit at reduced and limited schedules. If you believe you will have difficulty reaching the airport due to travel restrictions, please provide us with your travel information (name, date of birth, passport number, and contact details).

IMPORTANT:

Due to current travel guidelines in the United States, persons who have been in China, Iran, or certain European countries within 14 days prior to the flight will not be allowed to board this flight.

Onward connections from Fort Lauderdale, Florida are available.

Anyone know when the ban on gringos coming to Colombia will be lifted? I have heard it was for 2 weeks. Was it extended?

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2441792]Anyone know when the ban on gringos coming to Colombia will be lifted? I have heard it was for 2 weeks. Was it extended?[/QUOTE]Hmmmm no.

Have you been in a coma the past month? LOL.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2441792]Anyone know when the ban on gringos coming to Colombia will be lifted? I have heard it was for 2 weeks. Was it extended?[/QUOTE]It's a ban on all foreigners, not just gringos (however you define that) . And it's for longer than 2 weeks.

I suggest Google.

Can anyone PM me the name of any GF hotels near the clock tower if there are any? Would really appreciate it.

Going to book up as soon as things get under control with the virus, god knows when but it's good to have something to look forward to.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2441951]Can anyone PM me the name of any GF hotels near the clock tower if there are any? Would really appreciate it.

Going to book up as soon as things get under control with the virus, god knows when but it's good to have something to look forward to.[/QUOTE]I recommend an Airbnb much easier to deal with hosts than with hotels.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2441806]Have you been in a coma the past month? LOL.[/QUOTE]Indeed that is an amazing post. Good to read something so funny at times, to relieve the anguish we all feel.

Did you see "28 Days Later"? Fortunately the virus is less aggressive, but the sleep seems so deep.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2441471]
Due to current travel guidelines in the United States, persons who have been in China, Iran, or certain European countries within 14 days prior to the flight will not be allowed to board this flight.[/QUOTE]Basically they believe that people coming from China, Iran, Europe is a danger as [I]could bring virus to USA[/I].

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]

Evidently cases are starting to spike in Cartagena and the Colombian Caribbean coast:

[URL]https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/covid-19-in-cartagena-is-disseminated-states-health-minister-as-606-new-cases-confirmed-in-colombia/25061[/URL]

It appears that cases are climbing quickly according to that article and the data released by the Ministry of Health in Colombia:

[URL]https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1262141184081833984[/URL]

Worldometers shows the number of confirmed, or presumptive, daily cases in Colombia continuing to rise:

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/colombia/[/URL]

I do communicate with a couple of chicas there who keep sending me their dirty photos but I wasn't able to get anything meaningful from them on the situation. They are still in lock down with specific days for people to go out based on their gender and ID number. My tout tells me he's worried he will run out of food soon. If Cartagena gets hit hard, which it appears its about to, then that city will be changed for a long time. Tourists aren't going to flock to a place that had become a hot spot for COVID-19. That in turn will cause a death spiral in the local economy.

Anyone currently there care to share what the situation is like on the ground?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2451789] Tourists aren't going to flock to a place that had become a hot spot for COVID-19. [/QUOTE]What is a hot spot for COVID? USA and Europe has been hit much worse than Colombia, at least for the moment. I am sure there is some, yet it sounds odd, that someone living in California may think that Colombia is more at danger for COVID. I am from Europe and no country will welcome me for a long time at international borders.

This virus is a worldwide problem. People is forbidden to move around because mobility is a major factor impacting the increase rate of the epidemic, but nowadays the virus is already everywhere, and so it will be for years.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2451881]What is a hot spot for COVID? [/QUOTE]Since you can't follow links and read evidently:

[URL]https://youtu.be/tVSxgSrQAM4[/URL]

I'm not asking for a discussion of California or Europe. I posted about Cartagena in the Cartagena thread.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2451886]Since you can't follow links and read evidently:
[URL]https://youtu.be/tVSxgSrQAM4[/URL]
I'm not asking for a discussion of California or Europe. I posted about Cartagena in the Cartagena thread.[/QUOTE]I reassure you. I can read.

You missed my point. I know what is a hot spot, but I do not think Cartagena is a "hotter spot" than NYC, or LA, or my city in Europe. We had 20k-30k deaths in several European countries. NYC alone nearly 30k already. We will have many more, once the lockdown is relaxed. Cartagena and Colombia are just entering the nightmare. 1k infected is still nothing.

Cartagena cannot be considered worse than where we live. The numbers reported in that video are very small, compared to the numbers reported in NYC, USA, Europe, my country, my town, etc. Going to Cartagena is not more dangerous than going to many other countries (to name one in LA: Brazil!) On top of all that, we do not know what are the real numbers, hidden as untested. In short: WE (USA and Europe) ARE THE HOT SPOTS, not Colombia (yet).

Therefore, since you could not read my post evidently (or I was not clear enough, depending on how strong we want to discuss), the lack of tourists in Cartagena for the months or years to come will be not because Cartagena now is a hot spot, but because borders will stay closed, or because people will not want to cross borders (to Colombia or to USA) to not risk 2 weeks of quarantine.

I hope this clears the misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2451903]I

.. the lack of tourists in Cartagena for the months or years to come will be not because Cartagena now is a hot spot, but because borders will stay closed, or because people will not want to cross borders (to Colombia or to USA) to not risk 2 weeks of quarantine.

I hope this clears the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]I agree with you.

People, tourists, whoever, will go back to NYC, Italy, Cartagena, etc, after this has run its course whether it be thru immunity, vaccine, found treatments, etc.

P.S. . This was at the tail end of the article concerning Covid deaths in Colombia yesterday:

"Friday's 21 deaths occurred in Bogota, Tumaco, Mosquera, Cali, Barranquilla and Leticia. Bogota accounted for two of the victims. All fatalities suffered from pre-existing medical conditions, among them, cancer, hypothyroidism, diabetes and cardio-respiratory failure".

We all know who this virus affects most. It's sad when anyone dies, from this virus or from whatever cause of death.

Yes, it's a very contagious, and potentially dangerous virus for some, however, it's not the end of the world.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2451906]We all know who this virus affects most. It's sad when anyone dies, from this virus or from whatever cause of death.[/QUOTE]There is a second side of the story. When all hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID, there is no room for "regular guests", which means a lot in my country died not because sick of COVID, but because of COVID anyay, for heart or normal diseases, because of lack of regular medical attention.

Maybe they will change a mayor, get the city balance sheet right and build a promenade and not follow idiotic gender based days like in Bogota.

So sad to this thread dead and dry. Its like reality has set in for me. Was once my favorite city. Not much to look forward to. Medellin it is. Soon.

Just received word from a Cartagena chica that they're going back into full quarantine in Cartagena. Not sure what all that entails, but if anyone is riding this out there, expect a few rough weeks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2460257]Just received word from a Cartagena chica that they're going back into full quarantine in Cartagena. Not sure what all that entails, but if anyone is riding this out there, expect a few rough weeks.[/QUOTE]Here is the link for everyone to follow:

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/especiales/el-rastro-del-coronavirus-en-cartagena/[/URL]

It's only the end of the world if you or a loved one has the virus and dies or is incapacitated and / or permanently affected by the hospitalization. Otherwise, no problem.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2451906]I agree with you.

People, tourists, whoever, will go back to NYC, Italy, Cartagena, etc, after this has run its course whether it be thru immunity, vaccine, found treatments, etc.

P.S. . This was at the tail end of the article concerning Covid deaths in Colombia yesterday:

"Friday's 21 deaths occurred in Bogota, Tumaco, Mosquera, Cali, Barranquilla and Leticia. Bogota accounted for two of the victims. All fatalities suffered from pre-existing medical conditions, among them, cancer, hypothyroidism, diabetes and cardio-respiratory failure".

We all know who this virus affects most. It's sad when anyone dies, from this virus or from whatever cause of death.

Yes, it's a very contagious, and potentially dangerous virus for some, however, it's not the end of the world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2451906]
Yes, it's a very contagious, and potentially dangerous virus for some, however, it's not the end of the world.[/QUOTE]You are a true humanitarian.

Do you know the recovery rate from death?

Do you know the long term effect of having had the virus at all? And one does. Consider Chicken Pox, herpes zoster. Lays dormant in the body for 40 years the reappears as shingles. Ouch.

While personally you may not be impacted, you will carry the society cost of so many people having poor health, lost mothers, lost fathers, lost grandparents, lost knowledge.

To consider the death rate is such a small part of the required analysis.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2460399]It's only the end of the world if you or a loved one has the virus and dies or is incapacitated and / or permanently affected by the hospitalization. Otherwise, no problem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2460401]You are a true humanitarian.

Do you know the recovery rate from death?

Do you know the long term effect of having had the virus at all? And one does. Consider Chicken Pox, herpes zoster. Lays dormant in the body for 40 years the reappears as shingles. Ouch.

While personally you may not be impacted, you will carry the society cost of so many people having poor health, lost mothers, lost fathers, lost grandparents, lost knowledge.

To consider the death rate is such a small part of the required analysis.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected.

You're both right.

It is the end of the world.

Thank you for your wisdom and knowledge.

[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2460401]You are a true humanitarian.

Do you know the recovery rate from death?

Do you know the long term effect of having had the virus at all? And one does. Consider Chicken Pox, herpes zoster. Lays dormant in the body for 40 years the reappears as shingles. Ouch.

While personally you may not be impacted, you will carry the society cost of so many people having poor health, lost mothers, lost fathers, lost grandparents, lost knowledge.

To consider the death rate is such a small part of the required analysis.[/QUOTE]Actually, it seems more as if it may shave off a few years of the life expectancy. I don't mind dying 10-20 years earlier if I will be able to live a good life until then. People under 50 are extremely unlikely to die because of Covid-19. Good enough for me, I'm more afraid of the economic turmoil.

I don't mind dying 10-20 years earlier if I will be able to live a good life until then.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2418060]Yes big asses are there. Here is one chica I met on TNDr there and she wanted 250 k. Her as was real and tight. You could physically feel the meat without being sloppy. I have been with skinny athletic to thick and soft girls from Colombia. It is a buffet. I highly reccomend using PP, TNdr, FB, Millerotico or some other social media source if you want a bigger chance of finishing fetishes. This way you you can scout out whatever your heart desires. Leaving it to chance that you will be in the same place at the same time of your specific type you want is lowering the odds that you see it. You could be at club Space and she could be next door or working via social media only. Also I know a lot of Milfs don't even go to the clubs because that's a fetish. And being a fetish and not the highest sought after can translate to wasted time and money for them. There is a norm in the clubs and a lot of similarity amongst the girls. Obviously there will be standouts but they literally standout. I've gone enough times to consider myself a regular there. Every 3 months for 2 years. I always recommend newcomers with a fetish Pregame all your fetish girls before your trip and use the clubs as a filler in the night when you want to see what patches you cross. Photo of a big ass I enjoyed recently. It was breathtaking from the back and I could feel her abs from the front. I prefer this type also and they were available. In Medellin I see it more though but obviously found it with minimal work in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]I know what tinder and FB are. What is PP?

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2463742]I know what tinder and FB are. What is PP?[/QUOTE]Probably Photoprepagos.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2463742]I know what tinder and FB are. What is PP?[/QUOTE]Yes definitely most Probably Photoprepagos.

Have a ticket to Medellin in Mid Sept and will see if I can visit my apartment in Laguito for a day or so. Anyone on the ground care to provide a SITREP as to what the reality is in the Walled City and beaches. I'm still assuming mongering is virtually non existent.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JoeySmith;2474248]Have a ticket to Medellin in Mid Sept and will see if I can visit my apartment in Laguito for a day or so. Anyone on the ground care to provide a SITREP as to what the reality is in the Walled City and beaches. I'm still assuming mongering is virtually non existent.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]As you probably know with the increasing Covid in Colombia there is a high chance that flights won't be resumed by then. I think there has been discussion of that on another part of this site. Not sure offhand which one.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2474291]As you probably know with the increasing Covid in Colombia there is a high chance that flights won't be resumed by then. I think there has been discussion of that on another part of this site. Not sure offhand which one.[/QUOTE]It's not just Colombia. Even if flights are resumed to a more or less regular schedule, free circulation among countries without 14-day quarantine will be the LAST milestone on the path of COVID emergency resolution.

There is the possibility of fast PCR tests at the border to lower the 14-day period, but there at least two issues: 1) the availability of enough tests for the expected number of people crossing the borders 2) the need of repeating the test after few days, with the attached burden to trace all people and chase them for the 2nd test.

I know some troll on other Colombia threads questioned the real usefulness of blocking travels in order to control virus spreading (or pretended to not understand), but I will just mention that person mobility is a key parameter in any epidemic model: if persons never move, spreading is nearly ZERO, as infection happens only between persons in close proximity, but their position never changes. If a government does not opt for local lockdown, at least they can block moving across borders. It's something, also when the epidemic is already rampant locally.

Anyone know if there is an active swinger scene / clubs in CTG?

Thinking of going with a girl someday when restrictions lift and we like some variety. Thanks!

[QUOTE=DrPorn;2475345]Anyone know if there is an active swinger scene / clubs in CTG?

Thinking of going with a girl someday when restrictions lift and we like some variety. Thanks![/QUOTE]I thought about that many times, but La Costa is not really the place for that.

There are several, not many, in Medellin and Bogota, but nothing compared to vicious Europe!

The USA has just dropped the 14 day quarantine for all international travelers.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2474413]It's not just Colombia. Even if flights are resumed to a more or less regular schedule, free circulation among countries without 14-day quarantine will be the LAST milestone on the path of COVID emergency resolution.

There is the possibility of fast PCR tests at the border to lower the 14-day period, but there at least two issues: 1) the availability of enough tests for the expected number of people crossing the borders 2) the need of repeating the test after few days, with the attached burden to trace all people and chase them for the 2nd test.

I know some troll on other Colombia threads questioned the real usefulness of blocking travels in order to control virus spreading (or pretended to not understand), but I will just mention that person mobility is a key parameter in any epidemic model: if persons never move, spreading is nearly ZERO, as infection happens only between persons in close proximity, but their position never changes. If a government does not opt for local lockdown, at least they can block moving across borders. It's something, also when the epidemic is already rampant locally.[/QUOTE]

I have been keeping in touch with the folks I know down in Cartagena. Some things I have been hearing. Keep in mind this is only what I'm told. It may not be 100% accurate:

* Evidently there is some talk suggesting beaches may open in November. I don't know how likely this is but my tout is excited (the poor fucker).

* Most of the Venezuelans chicas have left. I only communicate now with one who had her phone taken by her landlord (a common thing when they can't make rent). She uses her friends phone and lives with a bunch of other Venezuelans who are trying to stick it out.

* Many and I mean MANY businesses have shut forever. Many clubs and restaurants are gone for good. Youtube "nadia cartagena" and look at her channel. It's a lady there that's been documenting the carnage to the tourist industry during this pandemic. She interviews many of the (former) business owners. Business owners who have been there for decades have had to shut down permanently.

* Earlier today a friend (non-mongering) mentioned that Cartagena had its deadliest day today recording more COVID related deaths than ever.

I doubt we're going back this year, even in November. I don't believe it's going to be safe. I doubt you'll find many chicas but I am sure some will be around, especially the local Colombians. I wish I had better news but things are shaping up exactly the way I expected them too. It will be several years for "normal" to be back and places like Cartagena will change forever.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2477794]* Most of the Venezuelans chicas have left.

* Many and I mean MANY businesses have shut forever.

* Cartagena had its deadliest day today recording more COVID related deaths than ever.[/QUOTE]South America Government leaders be dumb AF.

They take their 3rd world trash economies and put them on lockdown and mandatory quarantines.

Yet, they don't realize that by saving the lives of three 80 year olds, they ruined their economies, by doing so.

You're right though, I keep talking to Venie's who mention that that just moved back from Colombia. (Now I realize I was talking to working girls LOL).

When I whatsapp girls in Colombia and Venezuela and explain to them that I had COVID 2 times, they freak out and think it's the end of the world plague.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2477784]The USA has just dropped the 14 day quarantine for all international travelers.[/QUOTE]As I just replied you in the MDE thread, where you stated the same, that is for US citizens returning to USA, but the drop is not bidirectional: still most of other countries ban people from USA to enter their borders, or at least require 14-day quarantine. That is very reasonable, if we just look at the numbers and their trend.

No way, if I had government responsibility in a country, I would allow people from USA, Brazil, India, and many other COVID-hot countries to enter my borders.

It is interesting to note that Italy (I imagine the same holds for other EC countries) now fully bans people from Colombia, Brazil, and other hot countries, but allows people from USA with 14-day quarantine. See, size matters.

I know someone will argue: if my country has X incidence of COVID, why should I deny entrance to people coming from areas with same X incidence? The response is obvious in basic epidemiology: the less people moves around, the less the virus spreads. In hard lock-down, people is not allowed to move out of few hundreds meters from home (in Wuhan, people was not even allowed to go out of their home! Now China has nearly zero cases). This allows people to get infected by people in the same small circle, but not from circle to circle.

The country goes into specific social distancing scheme after September 1, 2020, meaning only the sick and related would have to isolate. Carthy has peaked for this malady some time ago; I expect US visitors to be back soon. The situation in Colombia is not worse than in the US, so now without a mandated quarantine anyone with a good medical that guarantees treatment abroad (which is actually cheaper than back home) may take a leap and take a trip.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478053]The country goes into specific social distancing scheme after September 1, 2020, meaning only the sick and related would have to isolate. Carthy has peaked for this malady some time ago; I expect US visitors to be back soon. The situation in Colombia is not worse than in the US, so now without a mandated quarantine anyone with a good medical that guarantees treatment abroad (which is actually cheaper than back home) may take a leap and take a trip.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a good grasp on this. For a visit to Cartegena what date do you think might be a safe bet?

[QUOTE=Questner;2478053]The country goes into specific social distancing scheme after September 1, 2020, meaning only the sick and related would have to isolate. Carthy has peaked for this malady some time ago; I expect US visitors to be back soon. The situation in Colombia is not worse than in the US, so now without a mandated quarantine anyone with a good medical that guarantees treatment abroad (which is actually cheaper than back home) may take a leap and take a trip.[/QUOTE]Good luck taking a chica back to an apartment then. It's very likely those tourist buildings will have much stricter rules given COVID. We'll see how it shapes up but I'm not holding out for any trips this year to Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2478066]Sounds like you have a good grasp on this. For a visit to Cartegena what date do you think might be a safe bet?[/QUOTE]Bars and adult venues to start to be open September 4th and 5th, 2020. So this is a major shift in policy. This is also a green season in the city (hot and rainy). My preferable slot dates for Carty is between December until the end of Carnival. We shall city if November event like beauty pageant take place in a usual format or not. Colombia will start soon several vaccine trials to give a boost of confidence. There is no safe bet, the House always takes a cut, and one may say that summer 2021 is going to be a safer and nicer time to visit, but as long as you don't want to delay life and have other issues of travel reasonably set to you specifically (quarantine, insurance, air fares and all contingencies) I guess you can plan for December and forward. Of course, mine is only an opinion.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478190]Good luck taking a chica back to an apartment then. It's very likely those tourist buildings will have much stricter rules given COVID. We'll see how it shapes up but I'm not holding out for any trips this year to Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Me the same only because the first trip will be to Brazil where I can get much more hobby value; I just wait until 14 days quarantine / avoid non-essential travel guideline to be lifted here, and depending on which country will be dropped from that 'avoid non-essential travel list' (now all the countries are on the list). I don't know how the buildings legally can ban visitors; then there are motels and girls rent somewhere too, there are opportunists to will rent, and as always you can go 'al fresco', very romantic.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478325]I don't know how the buildings legally can ban visitors; then there are motels and girls rent somewhere too, there are opportunists to will rent, and as always you can go 'al fresco', very romantic.[/QUOTE]We're in the Cartagena thread. Buildings can totally ban visitors. Many buildings in Cartagena do so because they don't want hookers over. With the pandemic I suspect the local government, which is always looking to clamp down on this stuff ostensibly, will ban anyone except registered visitors from staying in the apartment buildings in the tourist areas. You'll see.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478378]We're in the Cartagena thread. Buildings can totally ban visitors. Many buildings in Cartagena do so because they don't want hookers over. With the pandemic I suspect the local government, which is always looking to clamp down on this stuff ostensibly, will ban anyone except registered visitors from staying in the apartment buildings in the tourist areas. You'll see.[/QUOTE]No need to stay in tourist buildings especially the known notorious ones, there is enough supply in arbnb, [URL]booking.com[/URL], vrbo etc; the last hotel I stayed in just asked me to sign upon the waiver for each new visitor, the waiver basically said that the visitors were no guest, LOL. All very politely and with a smile. There are of course, buildings 'sin porteria', without security desk. There are always options to take business away to those who appreciate it. As long as bars and clubs are open, it's a go.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478616]No need to stay in tourist buildings especially the known notorious ones, there is enough supply in arbnb, [URL]booking.com[/URL], vrbo etc; the last hotel I stayed in just asked me to sign upon the waiver for each new visitor, the waiver basically said that the visitors were no guest, LOL. All very politely and with a smile. There are of course, buildings 'sin porteria', without security desk. There are always options to take business away to those who appreciate it. As long as bars and clubs are open, it's a go.[/QUOTE]OK. So you magically found a residence that doesn't require signing in the chica. Sure. Fine.

Now you go to a 'club' as you put it (there were only three before that were known to have hookers in them) how are you going to talk to one with social distancing rules? Sign language across the room? Cartagena won't be the same scene for quite a while. I'd save yourself the trouble and go to the other cities for pussy.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478616]As long as bars and clubs are open, it's a go.[/QUOTE]You've said it. Another necessary condition: "AND there are girls in bars and clubs".

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2478690]You've said it. Another necessary condition: "AND there are girls in bars and clubs".[/QUOTE]As soon as the beach opens it on.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478616]No need to stay in tourist buildings especially the known notorious ones, there is enough supply in arbnb, [URL]booking.com[/URL], vrbo etc; the last hotel I stayed in just asked me to sign upon the waiver for each new visitor, the waiver basically said that the visitors were no guest, LOL. All very politely and with a smile. There are of course, buildings 'sin porteria', without security desk. There are always options to take business away to those who appreciate it. As long as bars and clubs are open, it's a go.[/QUOTE]I stayed in an airbnb condo on the beach last January where the security guys took a picture of the chica and took down their info from ID. I loved that because they were my buddies looking out for me and even giving thumbs up to me behind the girls back. They even escorted one girl up to my door who had showed up on her own and who I had given a guest pass to previously. They were my buddies protecting me from mala chicas.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478323]Bars and adult venues to start to be open September 4th and 5th, 2020. So this is a major shift in policy. This is also a green season in the city (hot and rainy). My preferable slot dates for Carty is between December until the end of Carnival. We shall city if November event like beauty pageant take place in a usual format or not. Colombia will start soon several vaccine trials to give a boost of confidence. There is no safe bet, the House always takes a cut, and one may say that summer 2021 is going to be a safer and nicer time to visit, but as long as you don't want to delay life and have other issues of travel reasonably set to you specifically (quarantine, insurance, air fares and all contingencies) I guess you can plan for December and forward. Of course, mine is only an opinion.[/QUOTE]Summer 2021 is going to be very busy in Colombia they are co-hosting copa America expect a lot of hoes and guys coming from the other countries in south america. The closest stadium they are going to play soccer in is in is in Barranquilla.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2478820]As soon as the beach opens it on.[/QUOTE]You understand most of the working girls in Cartagena where either from Medellin, Venezuela, or Bogota? They all traveled there usually by bus or air. Beaches will open with social distancing as well. By 2021/2022 it will be completely different. Big business is going to swoop in buy up all the rights and reshape it. It's the end of an era.

Also, you remember how the cops always showed up at centro after 10 pm and tried to get the girls to leave? Yeah, now they have an excuse. COVID-19.

It's over man.

[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2478833]Summer 2021 is going to be very busy in Colombia they are co-hosting copa America expect a lot of hoes and guys coming from the other countries in south america. The closest stadium they are going to play soccer in is in is in Barranquilla.[/QUOTE]

Even if there was an effective vaccine (and there won't be for a while) this won't happen. Colombia is eventually going to have so much carnage due to the virus that it will have to shut down large public gatherings next year. Every pandemic in recorded human history has had a nasty second wave.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478881]You understand most of the working girls in Cartagena where either from Medellin, Venezuela, or Bogota? They all traveled there usually by bus or air. Beaches will open with social distancing as well. By 2021/2022 it will be completely different. Big business is going to swoop in buy up all the rights and reshape it. It's the end of an era.

Also, you remember how the cops always showed up at centro after 10 pm and tried to get the girls to leave? Yeah, now they have an excuse. COVID-19.

It's over man.



Even if there was an effective vaccine (and there won't be for a while) this won't happen. Colombia is eventually going to have so much carnage due to the virus that it will have to shut down large public gatherings next year. Every pandemic in recorded human history has had a nasty second wave.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. Just look on the escort sites like Photo Prepagos. There are all kinds of chicas around already.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478687]OK. So you magically found a residence that doesn't require signing in the chica. Sure. Fine.

Now you go to a 'club' as you put it (there were only three before that were known to have hookers in them) how are you going to talk to one with social distancing rules? Sign language across the room? Cartagena won't be the same scene for quite a while. I'd save yourself the trouble and go to the other cities for pussy.[/QUOTE]Which rules are you talking about? Those rules are over after September 1, 2020. Going to CTG will be dictated by season most of all and competition from other cities and countries. Don't forget there are local clubs beyond the known three, almost every club which was open ten years ago is still open, not to say how many just come from the streets and squares etc, the beach purveyors are still there etc. What is true there should be some normalcy in other tourist things to do, and I will assign some likelihood that by December the trip may be feasible.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2478888]Bullshit. Just look on the escort sites like Photo Prepagos. There are all kinds of chicas around already.[/QUOTE]LOL. You can't be serious? Those are pimps posting photos of chicas they had working there that are long gone.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478889]Which rules are you talking about?[/QUOTE]

It's the law. You rent a place as a tourist and everyone checking in has to have ID. It's an actual law to make sure only people who have legal residence can stay in those places. Have you ever been to Cartagena?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478892]LOL. You can't be serious? Those are pimps posting photos of chicas they had working there that are long gone.



It's the law. You rent a place as a tourist and everyone checking in has to have ID. It's an actual law to make sure only people who have legal residence can stay in those places. Have you ever been to Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Now you are starting to post misleading information. Photoprepagos is a legit site; just follow the same procedures as with any such ad site, some ads work and some don't. I actually have been to more than one Cartagena, and generally posting such doubts for any board member is not cool. If you try to scare visitors away from Cartagena, Colombia, it doesn't make much sense to me, as almost every visitor to the city has never been to any hobby board. I have once messaged you for the information about residences, and got zero response from you, - not polite. You have posted before that you prefer to keep the information of such residences confidential to you, so other visitors won't spoil it. Well, it's up to you.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478892]LOL. You can't be serious? Those are pimps posting photos of chicas they had working there that are long gone.



It's the law. You rent a place as a tourist and everyone checking in has to have ID. It's an actual law to make sure only people who have legal residence can stay in those places. Have you ever been to Cartagena?[/QUOTE].

You are much stupido amigo. As in full of shit.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478892]LOL. You can't be serious? Those are pimps posting photos of chicas they had working there that are long gone.



It's the law. You rent a place as a tourist and everyone checking in has to have ID. It's an actual law to make sure only people who have legal residence can stay in those places. Have you ever been to Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Instead of arguing with people who want to rush in. Just think of them as canaries in a coal mine.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478906]Now you are starting to post misleading information.[/QUOTE]I haven't posted any misleading information. By law, in Cartagena anyone staying in a hotel or renting an apartment in a tourist area has to prove they entered Colombia legally. This is why they ask for your passport and check the stamp. No stamp? No registration. I've had it happen to many Venezuelans.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478906]
Photoprepagos is a legit site; just follow the same procedures as with any such ad site, some ads work and some don't. I actually have been to more than one Cartagena, and generally posting such doubts for any board member is not cool.
[/QUOTE]Don't shoot the messenger. I've been posting about Cartagena for years now including regular reports on my visits. It was a great place to visit. Now its a ghost town and it will take time to recover.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478906]
If you try to scare visitors away from Cartagena, Colombia, it doesn't make much sense to me, as almost every visitor to the city has never been to any hobby board.
[/QUOTE]I'm not scaring anyone. I'm letting you know you are going to the wrong place if you are looking for pussy in Colombia. Cartagena will take a while to recover. You will find many of the social distancing rules to get in the way of this hobby. You need to remember patient zero is believed to have been an Italian woman in Cartagena. They're going to lock that shit down.

MANY businesses have permanently shut down in that city. Restaurants and clubs that have been around for over a decade or more.

[QUOTE=Questner;2478906]
I have once messaged you for the information about residences, and got zero response from you, - not polite. You have posted before that you prefer to keep the information of such residences confidential to you, so other visitors won't spoil it. Well, it's up to you.[/QUOTE]Don't take it personally, every time I posted a report I would get messages asking the same thing. I just stopped responding after a while.

But MojoBandit is right. If some folks want to go there first and tell us how amazing it is go ahead. I'm lucky. I got out of Colombia just a few days before they shut down air travel (and yes I was in Cartagena). I'm going to keep doing the same thing I started doing in March. I'm going to continue investing in value stock picks and wait the year out. Maybe by next summer things will improve but I'm not going until either I get a vaccine shot like the flu shot, or SARS-COV-2 becomes far less lethal.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQtuAyWqx5E[/URL]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2478964]I haven't posted any misleading information. By law, in Cartagena anyone staying in a hotel or renting an apartment in a tourist area has to prove they entered Colombia legally. This is why they ask for your passport and check the stamp. No stamp? No registration. I've had it happen to many Venezuelans.[/QUOTE]There also seems to be a difference in the type of ID that Colombians have. The hotel security seems to be fine with regular IDs, but there are other IDs that are laminated. Security doesn't seem to like the laminated ones. Not sure what the difference is on that.

Air Canada has finally posted a new flight schedule for September 3 to December 6, 2020 period and it has slots for flights to Bogota and Cartagena starting the very late of October. [URL]https://services.aircanada.com/portal/rest/timetable/pdf/ac-timetable-en.pdf[/URL].

[QUOTE=RMundi000;2479071]There also seems to be a difference in the type of ID that Colombians have. The hotel security seems to be fine with regular IDs, but there are other IDs that are laminated. Security doesn't seem to like the laminated ones. Not sure what the difference is on that.[/QUOTE]I can't remember what it's called, but the laminated one is what they get if they lose their cedula and are waiting for a new one. It's basically a letter with their information on it, but no picture. It's incredibly easy to fake.

Plan will be revealed shortly my contact days best to wait till late October or November.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2478989][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQtuAyWqx5E[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for sharing that video. I had a great time in that city in January. Alive and fun in so many ways. Complete lockdown for so many months, yet virus cases continue to climb.

[QUOTE=Questner;2479167]Air Canada has finally posted a new flight schedule for September 3 to December 6, 2020 period and it has slots for flights to Bogota and Cartagena starting the very late of October. [URL]https://services.aircanada.com/portal/rest/timetable/pdf/ac-timetable-en.pdf[/URL].[/QUOTE]It seems flights are starting from Oct 02 from Toronto Pearson to Bogota (See page 97.). Yes flights to Cartagena starts Oct 31, but I don't think there is any need to wait till Oct 31 if you want to reach CTG.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2480363]It seems flights are starting from Oct 02 from Toronto Pearson to Bogota (See page 97.). Yes flights to Cartagena starts Oct 31, but I don't think there is any need to wait till Oct 31 if you want to reach CTG.[/QUOTE]The US, Canada and Central America are on November schedule for Avianca. The question is not how to reach CTG, but when at the earliest on the balance the trip may be nice and with less issues on the ground (no quarantine, no sanitary measures, no curfews, no closures, nice weather and girls are there).

I just got off the phone with Spirit airlines for the flight I booked from South Florida to Cartagena for the end of September. I explicitly asked the rep what the requirements were for entering the country as well if the flight is still going to happen and she told me I need a negative COVID test. No more than 72 hours and that the flight was still going. Now I'm confused because some of you are saying Colombia might be closed until October. Anyone have any sources they can cite?

[QUOTE=Questner;2480398]The US, Canada and Central America are on November schedule for Avianca. The question is not how to reach CTG, but when at the earliest on the balance the trip may be nice and with less issues on the ground (no quarantine, no sanitary measures, no curfews, no closures, nice weather and girls are there).[/QUOTE]Late October.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2479171]I can't remember what it's called, but the laminated one is what they get if they lose their cedula and are waiting for a new one. It's basically a letter with their information on it, but no picture. It's incredibly easy to fake.[/QUOTE]

Contresena.

It's also what they will have the first few weeks after hitting 18 years old and waiting for their first official cedula. Which they will "lose" shortly thereafter apparently not understanding the importance it carries with regard to visiting gringos in hotels and apartments.

At least according to this report:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KngZQkeeQTM[/URL]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2481037]At least according to this report:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KngZQkeeQTM[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel YK.

Good news is that the new report showed direct statements from the President.

The President said in the reports, international flights will be open in September. However, he did not say which day.

I am close to hitting the button on a flight from ORD to Cartagena from 11/27 - 12/10. Been to MDE a few times but never tried Cartagena. Since it may be the first place to open up to International tourists, what do you think are the odds of making the trip in late November? Thoughts?

[QUOTE=CallMeBill;2481423]I am close to hitting the button on a flight from ORD to Cartagena from 11/27 - 12/10. Been to MDE a few times but never tried Cartagena. Since it may be the first place to open up to International tourists, what do you think are the odds of making the trip in late November? Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I'm going to get yelled at for saying this because people don't like it.

You will likely find a route and get a seat on a plane landing in Cartagena. You won't find many restaurants or clubs open (many have closed permanently). Venezuelan border is closed and many of the chicas are long gone not to return for a while. The beaches will have social distancing rules that will be enforced so good luck meeting chicas there. The buildings where you generally rent an apartment that is chica friendly will deny entry to any visitors due to social distancing.

It's done. It won't be back for a while. It's going to be at least a year or two before Cartagena is back as a mongering destination.

You want to waste your time and money? Go ahead and let us know how awesome it will be.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2481430]I'm going to get yelled at for saying this because people don't like it.

You will likely find a route and get a seat on a plane landing in Cartagena. You won't find many restaurants or clubs open (many have closed permanently). Venezuelan border is closed and many of the chicas are long gone not to return for a while. The beaches will have social distancing rules that will be enforced so good luck meeting chicas there. The buildings where you generally rent an apartment that is chica friendly will deny entry to any visitors due to social distancing.

It's done. It won't be back for a while. It's going to be at least a year or two before Cartagena is back as a mongering destination.

You want to waste your time and money? Go ahead and let us know how awesome it will be.[/QUOTE]I think for the most part you are right. I know many Venezuelans who are still there. I mostly met women online so that doesn't change but with the clubs closed and social distance on the beach no place to really party. Then if the apartments don't allow guests it's done. It was work finding chica friendly apartments before COVID. It was much easier to find them in Medellin. Colombia took COVID very seriously and shut things down. Which why I'm in another country where finding chica friendly spots is no problem. I'm going to sit back and let all the people who are waiting on Colombia to open go and see how they fare. No point on going if I can't bring chicas back to my apartment.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2481461]I think for the most part you are right. I know many Venezuelans who are still there. I mostly met women online so that doesn't change but with the clubs closed and social distance on the beach no place to really party. Then if the apartments don't allow guests it's done. It was work finding chica friendly apartments before COVID. It was much easier to find them in Medellin. Colombia took COVID very seriously and shut things down. Which why I'm in another country where finding chica friendly spots is no problem. I'm going to sit back and let all the people who are waiting on Colombia to open go and see how they fare. No point on going if I can't bring chicas back to my apartment.[/QUOTE]Not being able to bring guests in kills the game. The rest is manageable. I have 2 or 3 solid contacts. Looks like I won't be be back there for awhile.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2481573]Not being able to bring guests in kills the game. The rest is manageable. I have 2 or 3 solid contacts. Looks like I won't be be back there for awhile.[/QUOTE]Why not wait until flights resume and verify the current situation before making a decision? YippieKayay might be right, or he might be wrong. At this point it's premature to make plans either way.

Are you actually in Cartagena? I'm curious about the situation of the Venezolanas in Colombia. I have heard conflicting reports. On the one hand a few mongers have told me, like you, that most of the venezuelans have gone back to Venezuela and there are mostly only Colombianas working. On the other hand, I've heard from multiple people that Santa Fe is still filled with Venezolanas. Muchisimas. I've also heard that Maduro closed his borders and even heard news about venezuelans being stuck in Colombia.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2481430]I'm going to get yelled at for saying this because people don't like it.

You will likely find a route and get a seat on a plane landing in Cartagena. You won't find many restaurants or clubs open (many have closed permanently). Venezuelan border is closed and many of the chicas are long gone not to return for a while. The beaches will have social distancing rules that will be enforced so good luck meeting chicas there. The buildings where you generally rent an apartment that is chica friendly will deny entry to any visitors due to social distancing.

It's done. It won't be back for a while. It's going to be at least a year or two before Cartagena is back as a mongering destination.

You want to waste your time and money? Go ahead and let us know how awesome it will be.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2481430]I'm going to get yelled at for saying this because people don't like it.[/QUOTE]No, you are going to get yelled at because your information is not accurate.

Granted, this is from Santa Marta but not Cartagena but here are the rules at the Marirott there:

Fitness Center: Open from 6 am to 9 pm, we have established a maximum capacity of people and we have a number of furniture in accordance with the regulations in order to respect social distancing guidelines. Reservation required and facemasks are required at all times.

Spa: Open, from 8 am to 8 pm, reservation required.

Beach: Open from 7:00 AM to 6:00 PM. There are limited chairs available as we encourage our guests to respect social distancing guidelines and for fulfill the local regulations.

Kids Club / Playground: Closed until further notice.

Our Restaurants are open every day in different schedules:

1525 Restaurant.

For Breakfast: On Weekdays from 6:30 AM to 10:30 PM and on weekends from 7:00 AM to 11:00 AM. Only available Á la carte service.

For Dinner: Every day from 6:30 PM to 11:00 PM.

Cayeye Restaurant.

Open for lunch and dinner every day from 11:00 AM to 7:00 PM.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2481430]You will likely find a route and get a seat on a plane landing in Cartagena. You won't find many restaurants or clubs open (many have closed permanently). Venezuelan border is closed and many of the chicas are long gone not to return for a while. The beaches will have social distancing rules that will be enforced so good luck meeting chicas there. The buildings where you generally rent an apartment that is chica friendly will deny entry to any visitors due to social distancing.

It's done. It won't be back for a while. It's going to be at least a year or two before Cartagena is back as a mongering destination.

You want to waste your time and money? Go ahead and let us know how awesome it will be.[/QUOTE]Dude,

I have lined up women in Mexico that I had no chance at pre-Covid, and Colombia is Mexico x 10.

Tallman just said pussy in Medellin is the best he has ever seen. I already have my choice of women lined up dying to go a hotel like this Marriott where there is an open restaurant and a gym. Colombia sucks? You are out of your fucking mind. Right now is the best it has ever been. Hell, this chica just sent me this photo this morning. I have never seen so many hot women ready to get down with gringos. I cannot wait to get there. I am wondering if I am going to be fucked to death!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2481599]Why not wait until flights resume and verify the current situation before making a decision? YippieKayay might be right, or he might be wrong. At this point it's premature to make plans either way.[/QUOTE]I cannot imagine anywhere is going to be happy with women being paraded in and out of rooms. Thing is you bring in women for a day or two and book for two people and then switch hotels or residences if you want to have more than one chica. The previously chica friendly hotels in Mexico City were anything but when Covid hit. I had to get one chica a separate room one night to get her into my hotel.

One option is having a residence that allows for multiple bonings a day is like an airBNB style apartment that is very private, but I do not know how you find that. The only other possibility I can think of are multiple cheap hotel rooms which I did in Mexico City as well but even that option was not that great due to no shows.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2481611]Are you actually in Cartagena? I'm curious about the situation of the Venezolanas in Colombia. I have heard conflicting reports. On the one hand a few mongers have told me, like you, that most of the venezuelans have gone back to Venezuela and there are mostly only Colombianas working. On the other hand, I've heard from multiple people that Santa Fe is still filled with Venezolanas. Muchisimas. I've also heard that Maduro closed his borders and even heard news about venezuelans being stuck in Colombia.[/QUOTE]This is the Cartagena thread not the Bogota thread. All my Venezuelan chica contacts in Cartagena left the city. Some went back to Venezuela. Others went to cities like Bogota or Cali. The one who is left tells me things are starting to open up but all of her working girl friends are out of the city. Again, I'm referring to Cartagena and not every city in Colombia. I don't visit the other cities often so I can't tell you what's up there.

No, of course I am not in Cartagena. The city has been a ghost town for a while now. Even the real estate agents I know who rent me the apartments told me the buildings were shut down tight when the lock down first started back end of March.

EDIT: I just whatsapped the real estate agent who usually rents me an apartment. She straight up told me no access to the roof top pool and no visitors allowed. Only registered guests or guests coming to register are allowed in. You can't even get to the reception area if you're not supposed to be there.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2481573]Not being able to bring guests in kills the game. The rest is manageable. I have 2 or 3 solid contacts. Looks like I won't be be back there for awhile.[/QUOTE]Yes it will kill the game but we won't know if this is the case until Colombia actually opens up. I see in the DR a lot of places are just happy to have customers again and are not giving them a hard time If they have guests. Let's hope Colombia is also the case. I'm going to sit back and wait on reports before I book anything or I may email Airbnb hosts and see what their policy is on guests once Colombia is open.

Article in Spanish. The mayor of Cartagena is making the announcement:

[URL]https://www.dinero.com/pais/articulo/vuelos-internacionales-colombia-cartagena-recibira-vuelos-el-21-de-septiembre/299396[/URL]