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[QUOTE=Max #01; 1269997]Hello,

I'm making my first trip to Italy later in the year and have been checking out the Italy forum here on ISG. Unless I'm missing something, Italy sounds like a virtual wasteland for mongering. This site posted in 2010 helped a lot, especially when using Google Chrome with automatic translation. I get the impression that outcall escorts are the primary source of recreation. I'm not into SWs in any country, so that's not an option. Just my personal preference. I'm also convinced there aren't any FKK-like establishments, either. I haven't seen any mention of and high-mileage strip clubs, Asian or other massage parlors, pick-up bars, swingers clubs, gang bangs, etc. I've been in other parts of Europe and have been absolutely spoiled (except for Norway). Am I missing something, or, have I pretty much described the state of affairs in Italy? BTW, I will be in Naples for most of my time in Italy. Thanks in advance for any help and advice.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is illegal in the sense it is prohibited to solicit, take advantage of it, pimps are pursued, customers can be pursued if caught having sex in public (even in a hidden place in the car)

Street walkers (of any kind) : as many as you wish, servicing in your car, in ST hotels / rooms, wide choice of nationalities available, mainly Eastern Europe and African.

FKK: not available.

Strip clubs / lap dance: yes, some here and there, especially in the North. North East of the country. Can be a rip off joint sometime (ie pulling money for not much services)

Asian massage parlours: expanding through the country, mainly PRC based stuff, low prices for western world, services available vary but at least HE is in the menu in most cases. They officially are "beauty and massage centers", so you might find some resistance at the beginning if you are not known. Easily identifiable by the shop windows with large decals showing massage action.

Pick up bars: not available.

Swinger clubs / BDSM joints: some available, covered by a "club" activity, some of these clubs do that only once a week (theme night). Word of mouth is the way to know about the details. There are italian website discussing the theme and acting as discussion / forum areas to make easy for people to know each other and eventually meet in real.

Don't PM for further details as meaning to give this overview only.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1196954]I do not have a lot of first hand info on the relationships of pimps to prostitutes, but I can say I have never seen or sensed forced prostitution. Do you ever sense girls are forced against there will?[/QUOTE]It is wider than what you can see in the surface

Hi Climaxnow, what are you doing in Italy, one of the worst country for sex?

About your report. Instead, I had some in-deep experiences with hardcore prostitutes and their pimps in Italy. The truth? 99% prostitutes want that. 99% prostitutes love their pimps and their work (instead to work in a factory in their own country) .99% prostitutes before they are just "workers", and after they become "businesswomen" of other girls and, because they want no-limit money, they go in the narcotic market. And believe me, all of the remaining words, that you hear by themselves, are just fairy tales for their own convenience. They like bad men only: a famous song says "because I like the way you harm me, because I like the way you lie to me"!

[QUOTE=Climaxnow; 1196954]I do not have a lot of first hand info on the relationships of pimps to prostitutes, but I can say I have never seen or sensed forced prostitution.

As a matter of fact, of the relationships I was well aware of, there seemed to be a perfect balance of need between pimp and prostitute.

The prostitutes usually had poor language skills or business acumen that they were forced to find a man to help over come these personal

Impediments.

I am not very proud of this, but I have seen prostitutes that came to be real girl friends and I got pretty darn good sense of what they were about.

They were all 100 per cent willing. Two were Polish and one was Ukrainian and all three failed at baby sitting or taking care of an old person. Were there

Threats from the pimps? You bet! But the threats actually provided a structure which gave them a system to belong to. The pimps would tell these girls if.

You go to the cops, I will kill you. If you see any of my customers on the side, you will have to pay me $10, 000. Lots of yelling, lots of false threats. After a

While you begin realizing that pimps are playing a psycological game on the girls that actually makes the girl a better team player. Kinda like the philosophy.

Of treating slavic women like shit to get the best of them.

Anyway, maybe I am crazy and don't know what I'm talking about. How about you guys in Europe. Do you ever sense girls are forced against there will?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AColonizer; 1286706]Hi Climaxnow, what are you doing in Italy, one of the worst country for sex?

About your report. Instead, I had some in-deep experiences with hardcore prostitutes and their pimps in Italy. The truth? 99% prostitutes want that. 99% prostitutes love their pimps and their work (instead to work in a factory in their own country).99% prostitutes before they are just "workers", and after they become "businesswomen" of other girls and, because they want no-limit money, they go in the narcotic market. And believe me, all of the remaining words, that you hear by themselves, are just fairy tales for their own convenience. They like bad men only: a famous song says "because I like the way you harm me, because I like the way you lie to me"![/QUOTE]Hi Ac, I stopped in Italy to visit relatives before my first planned trip to Kiev in November but had to return to the US after a couple of weeks. Anyhow, Italy was a terrible terrible place for mongering. I tried a few girls in Rome and it was all bad. Worse than some of the robots out in London. If I was twenty five again, I think I could get laid by some of the Polish girls around Rome. As to Italian girls, if I was Brad Pit and twenty five, I do not think I could get laid.

Polish girls or prostitutes? Which place or which street?

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1286788]Hi Ac, I stopped in Italy to visit relatives before my first planned trip to Kiev in November but had to return to the US after a couple of weeks. Anyhow, Italy was a terrible terrible place for mongering. I tried a few girls in Rome and it was all bad. Worse than some of the robots out in London. If I was twenty five again, I think I could get laid by some of the Polish girls around Rome. As to Italian girls, if I was Brad Pit and twenty five, I do not think I could get laid.[/QUOTE]

Interestingly, while trying to figure out how (or if) I was going to monger next week in Naples, I ran across none other than a Backpage. Com site devoted to Italy in general and most of the major cities in particular. There seemed to be a reasonable choice of ladies of all ages, shapes, and sizes. (I also broke the code to figure out who were the trannies as well.)

I'd be interested to find out if anyone has ever hooked up with one of the Backpage girls in Italy?

I read that recently there has been an increase in the number of housewives who decided to offer some sex services, due to the crisis, and that sometimes these ladies advertise themslevs on the Internet. Does anybody had recent experiences of this type? It looks as completely different from prostitution, because it is a free choice of the adults. I have to admit that I do not like pro's, they seem very artificial to me and I do not get very much excited at the idea of some sex-only based intercourse. I have not yet tried with a semi-pro, but it sounds more like "sponsoring" a person who offers you some of her time.

You get a wrong understanding about everything in the world. Just read the fourth / fifth post below. Italy is an island in the middle of an ocean far from any civilized country and its people look like Rapa Nui culture. I like the anthropology and even the so-called "prostitution" is an important part of a culture. Before to start any relation with women, you should understand female behavior, and you should realize there are some females sell themselves for getting money, and there are some females sell themselves for getting children. This is the reason because most weddings in Italy are fake weddings with a fake relationship with a fake love, celebrated just for convenience: an Italian priest celebrates a religious and, above-all, a legal agreement that sets a long-term financing to the bride and her children. I am a honest man and in my opinion that is the worst kind of prostitution, where even children are a commodity exchange. Until thirty years old, the Catholic Church forced lifetime weddings with violent men, then everything looked like real love. Now, the historical truth is coming up, people are free from the cynical power of the Catholic Church, at last there are real families, open relationships, homosexual relationships, divorces and a life style called prostitution (for money). At last, humanity shows the truth about itself!

[QUOTE=Euroknight;1361023]I read that recently there has been an increase in the number of housewives who decided to offer some sex services, due to the crisis, and that sometimes these ladies advertise themslevs on the Internet. Does anybody had recent experiences of this type? It looks as completely different from prostitution, because it is a free choice of the adults. I have to admit that I do not like pro's, they seem very artificial to me and I do not get very much excited at the idea of some sex-only based intercourse. I have not yet tried with a semi-pro, but it sounds more like "sponsoring" a person who offers you some of her time.[/QUOTE]

Before posting my request of infos I had read the most recent posts (including your own AC.). I was born in Italy too, although since many years I live abroad. I agree of course with 95% of what you write, but you do not answer my question. We can also amiably discuss the socio-anthropology oif the working scene in Italy, but I am more interested into ladeis, to be honest. I have tried pro's, and now I would like to test something different, I. E. These "private" ladies. That's it: nothing more, nothing less. Is there any known website for this kind of activities?

[QUOTE=AColonizer;1361070]You get a wrong understanding about everything in the world. Just read the fourth / fifth post below. Italy is an island in the middle of an ocean far from any civilized country and its people look like Rapa Nui culture. I like the anthropology and even the so-called "prostitution" is an important part of a culture. Before to start any relation with women, you should understand female behavior, and you should realize there are some females sell themselves for getting money, and there are some females sell themselves for getting children. This is the reason because most weddings in Italy are fake weddings with a fake relationship with a fake love, celebrated just for convenience: an Italian priest celebrates a religious and, above-all, a legal agreement that sets a long-term financing to the bride and her children. I am a honest man and in my opinion that is the worst kind of prostitution, where even children are a commodity exchange. Until thirty years old, the Catholic Church forced lifetime weddings with violent men, then everything looked like real love. Now, the historical truth is coming up, people are free from the cynical power of the Catholic Church, at last there are real families, open relationships, homosexual relationships, divorces and a life style called prostitution (for money). At last, humanity shows the truth about itself![/QUOTE]

I am a honest man and an experienced monger. I am really annoyed of P4P scene in Italy, from any point of view.

Before replying your enquiry, you should compare posts and P4P scene in Italy with posts and P4P scene in other countries. Therefore it comes some questions: Is sex in Italy worth one only euro? Can't you be without sex for one week? Can't you go to near Germany?

I am Italian and I am one of few Italian who is a genuine open-minded about sex and I feel disgusted by Italian women' ***** attitude and I wouldn't pay one only euro to Italian way of sex. Here men are not "latin lovers" anymore, but they are "pirla lovers". They are weak men. Also rich men pay stupid prices for their girlfriends, lovers, wives, prostitutes, instead they could get everybody for free, just for the smell of power. Meanwhile, Italian women have lost the femininity and even they don't know real sex anymore. In sex it is not important what a man do, but it is important what a woman do. And Italian women await passively that men do something in bed. No, thanks, I am a honest man and I want a honest woman!

Now the reply to your enquiry. I think it is not easy to find beautiful housewives to have P4P, because it is usual beautiful women get married wealthy men. Moreover you shouldn't expect something more than condomed sex. Everything at high prices. Otherwise there are MILFs. In Italy, women are teen until 30 years old, they are young between 31 and 49 years old, and they are MILF from 50 years old. Have you ever watched Italian TV news? That's crazy when they say "a young woman of 35 years old". I know a lot of men frequent swinger clubs, there is an entrance fee, it is easy to have be / g sex or group sex for free, but you don't expect young girls, it is just to download your own balls. Swinger clubs are advertised by word-of-mouth or by newspaper advertisements or by Internet advertisements.

I know P4P in Italy and I am keeping updated about that, although it is not easy because sex is still a religious taboo and a cultural tare. Everything about sex is something between legal and illegal. About prostitutes, I avoid newspaper advertisements, Internet advertisements and escort advertisements, because they are usually the reason of great dissatisfactions, great wastes, great troubles. Only weak men can pay high prices for easy sex, just for the fetishism of a beautiful girl, and, you know, each time a man has got full balls, then he always sees a beautiful girl, even if she is ugly. The best opportunities are on roads and word-of-mouth, and it needs time and experience but it is worth the work. Otherwise if a man doesn't find a woman to fuck at a reasonable price, then it is better he doesn't waste his money and doesn't fuck. Women teach money is much more important than men, and why shouldn't it be vice-versa too?

[QUOTE=Euroknight;1361224]Before posting my request of infos I had read the most recent posts (including your own AC.). I was born in Italy too, although since many years I live abroad. I agree of course with 95% of what you write, but you do not answer my question. We can also amiably discuss the socio-anthropology oif the working scene in Italy, but I am more interested into ladeis, to be honest. I have tried pro's, and now I would like to test something different, I. E. These "private" ladies. That's it: nothing more, nothing less. Is there any known website for this kind of activities?[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with AColonizer when he talks about P4P scene.

IMHO both Italy and France, with different reasons, are the worst countries in Europe for P4P (of course, except Scandinavia, you know why). I don't think in the world because there are also Saudi Arabia, Burma, Bangladesh and Iran.

Just think at all the brothels, FKK, stripclubs and so on at the borders of Italy in Switzerland, Austria and Slovenia! There are built for all the desperate Italians because of the desolation of P4P scene in Italy (and in some case also to extort them money).

The P4P 'panorama' in Italy is indeed generally expensive, full of so called FAKE (the false ads on websites) , persecutions for SW monger by the laws. I don't talk about the 90% of the Chinese massage parlours. So is the situation in Italy.

Not to go off topic, I won't talk about the P4P in France, because I will write on his own section of this forum, but the situation is more or less the same. Here, the new government decided a more aggressive politics against prostitution.

But, luckily for me, in France women have another mentality and another approach with sex than in Italy, where hundred years of Church, hypocrisy, a 'family values'-oriented society (of course only empty words) and so on, created the tipical 'Italian attitude' as regard as the sex.

I put a repo few minutes ago. It's my 1st time use this forum. But I can't find my repo.

Could you dudes tell me what's wrong with my repo?

Thanks.

Nic.

Hey Nicocco don't worry, all your posts will be moderated until you have written at least 25 report.

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I found on bakecaincontrii website a profile I am interested in. She asks however a lot of money (500 euros for 2 hours) , claiming she is a non-pro and wants to be selective. Until this moment we had only an exchange of emails. She uses fake photos (I easily found out) , and she wants me to reserve a room in a hotel and meet there. She leaves to me the choice of the hotel, and she adds that if at the meeting I do not like her, I have the freedom to leave.

Guys: what do you think? If I reserve this hotel room and then give her an appointment in tha hall, do I incur into some risks? I think that in Italy hotels have now become girl-friendly (?) , but I am not Italian and I do not see hookers in the halls in Italian hotels.

Any advice will be welcome. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Euroknight; 1413753]I found on bakecaincontrii website a profile I am interested in. She asks however a lot of money (500 euros for 2 hours) , claiming she is a non-pro and wants to be selective. Until this moment we had only an exchange of emails. She uses fake photos (I easily found out) , and she wants me to reserve a room in a hotel and meet there. She leaves to me the choice of the hotel, and she adds that if at the meeting I do not like her, I have the freedom to leave.

Guys: what do you think? If I reserve this hotel room and then give her an appointment in tha hall, do I incur into some risks? I think that in Italy hotels have now become girl-friendly (?) , but I am not Italian and I do not see hookers in the halls in Italian hotels.

Any advice will be welcome. Thanks![/QUOTE]Bakekaincontrii is the less reliable website in Italy: free ADS unverified and full, but really full, of fake profiles. 500 euros are a stream of money, and in principle I wouldn't go with a P4P who is selective and asks for my email address before. So, my humble suggestion is, generally speaking, to avoid bakekaincontrii and specifically this ADS. Then, you've already discovered that she uses fake photos, so nothing more to say.

My humble suggestion is to check this site of escort (you have to refine your search by selecting the city where you are) , who on average may require from 250 to 450.

[url]http://www.escortforum.net/[/url]

Honestly I think that EF is the most reliable. The photo 100% verified have a little banner in the lower right, but more or less every escort has some reviews done by others mongers with rates, services and reports. Of course the reviews are written in italian. Many of these girls can also speak english, I guess.

I used EF sometimes, and I never been cheated. Photoshoped is largely used but I've never found a fake. Please don't assume that my statement is always true in any case! Fakes are possible everywhere, but as I said, the girls are reviewed. So check it out.

Cheapest loft girls ADS you may find here too:

[url]http://ebakeca.com/[/url]

Same story of EF, the photo verified have written: 100% verified. Maybe this is more an incall service site, than an outcall one.