Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Had two excellent session from a girl there a while back, performance does count. Never been to Annies so can't compare the looks but the girls in VIP while not on par with Nataree, were attractive enough. Don't see why anyone going here wouldn't be able to "move quick, make a decision and get back to his home" if he wanted to.[/QUOTE]

I respectfully disagree. Firstly, the fee you pay here is for the room and room supply fees.....the price (sex) has to be negotiated separately....just like Sabailand used to be....but this method is not a good one for the punter. One price, all in is the way to go. Secondly, the selection here is not up to par.....and that's my opinion.....end of argument as far as I am concerned. I did make one good selection here in many years of looking.....the girls are usually older, not attractive, fat, etc. We just disagree on this. There are a lot of other venues for this guy to try.....

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]We just disagree on this. [/QUOTE]
This was obvious from the jump and I agree.

the dinner was my proposal. however, i made this proposal still before we agreed to take her out, and she agreed with the dinner. furthermore, the agreed amount of 2000 thb should normally even justify lt, so i did not feel anything wrong by taking her out for dinner.

as a matter of fact, i do not like to eat alone, but prefer some nice company. i agree with you guys, however, that it is important to check out first the mood and ideas of the girl. due to her good look, i probably rushed a bit to barfine her. had i taken a bit more time, i might have already felt her hurry and then would not have taken her out.

in the past, i had wonderful dinners with great companions, before the deed. we had good fun, and then going to the room was like taking your girlfriend home - but then with a new experience.

i think, everyone has his preferences, but i will continue to have dinner with the take-out, if she agrees beforehand. then, i consider it part of the deal, like anything else that we might discuss and agree on.

wonderer


[quote=1ball]wonderer, a quick question. whose idea was it to have a meal, hers or yours?
if yours, seems you were literally "eating " into the st time frame, hence her desire to speed things along once you got back to the room?[/quote]

I am also the romantic type. Hate eating alone and after barfining the girl if it is early would take the girl to a nice restaurent.
Only problem is these girls like their street food and do not like anything in the restaurent. If the girl is GFE they enjoy the time at dinner. If she is not you can easily tell.
30% of the time I have had good experience and good service from barfine girls taking them to dinner. I do not take them to dinner anymore the first time. Only if the girl stays with me one night and I plan to keep her for another I will take her to dinner. This avoids unnecessary hassles.
Best thing is to make sure the girls stays LT. Lots of stunners want only ST.
And they are least bothered to have dinner with you wasting her precious time.

[QUOTE=Wonderer]The dinner was my proposal. However, I made this proposal still before we agreed to take her out, and she agreed with the dinner. Furthermore, the agreed amount of 2000 THB should normally even justify LT, so I did not feel anything wrong by taking her out for dinner.

I think, everyone has his preferences, but I will continue to have dinner with the take-out, if she agrees beforehand. Then, I consider it part of the deal, like anything else that we might discuss and agree on. Wonderer[/QUOTE]Hi Wonderer,

I also prefer more time with the girl, but then we are talking longtime. If you agree LT then she knows and is prepared to stay with you.

But you agreed ST and then it will be ST and then when with you she is already preparing for the next customer/money and she wants to return to the bar as soon as possible. Time is money!

So if you prefer more time and you are prepared to make some extra costs, dinner/drinks, then why not simply make an agreement for LT. Then you can do everything relaxed and have all the fun you want, again ofcourse within the LT agreement. Time is money!

The girls are not there for you, but they only want/need money!

ST = SHORTtime and LT = LONGtime, all up to you!

Cheers!

To each his own but:

I would much rather bust a nut with a buzz from a bar than gazz from a restaurant. Plus, who isn't hungry after a workout? The fillies usually want to scoot, but if she doesn't and performed well, the easiest thing is to share a bite at your hotel's cafe.- unless you are at a 5-star. But who among us bothers with that?

Keep it simple.- you'll have fewer problems.

Jck

[QUOTE=Wonderer]The dinner was my proposal. However, I made this proposal still before we agreed to take her out, and she agreed with the dinner. Furthermore, the agreed amount of 2000 THB should normally even justify LT, so I did not feel anything wrong by taking her out for dinner. [/QUOTE]Inviting her to dinner while still in the bar may have told her you were an easy target and easy to push around. I was that way and still have a "soft side" but only when she is gives GFE and eager t please.

I understand Wonderers wish, to show up with a beautiful girl in a restaurant and get some jealous looks from other men. But, it's not a good idea to make that with a girl who is just behind quick money.
I saw it quite often, that guys come with her barfined girls to Clubs to have some dancing and boasting before they go back to the Hotel. If the bar girl and the customer likes each other, they can have a good time. But, often I notice that the bar girl flirts with other guys when the guy who barfined her looks in another direction.
Best advice if you can't read body language, is take her to the room after barfining and if she still wants to stay, than go for diner or disco or cinema, or what ever.

Last time I was in Pattaya I had 2 experiences with taking our cuties for eating in a restaurant. I discovered that this sometimes requires knowing the girl a bit better.

The one which was the best and nicest to be with was the one from Beach Road. She claimed she had not been in town long and I believed her. I was hungry as hell and drinking too much and needed to eat. She held my hand and I took her around to a thai restaurant. She didn't know much English but she was very polite and graceful. I ended up asking her for LT instead of ST and took her to my Hotel instead of my ST Hotel.

The other one was just a beauty gogo from Walking street. She was so hot.

But what a pain in the ass in the restaurant! I was sorry I invited her.

The fellow in an earlier post who said keep it simple was right. Western women are always wanting to eat out but we are in a different world!

Enjoy guys!

[QUOTE=Sammon]Only problem is these girls like their street food and do not like anything in the restaurent.[/QUOTE]I seldom take 'em out for a meal but when I do I just ask them where they'd like to go. It's always cheap and usually pretty good, as long as you've got a taste for Thai/Lao food. Most of my favorite little jum jim, kai yaang/som tam, etc. places were introduced to me by bargirls.

Thanks a lot to all for your comments. It's interesting to read the different opinions.

In fact, when I invited a take-out for dinner, in the majority of cases, I had a good time with them, even though it might have turned out later on to be as "ST". Most of the girls enjoyed having some food after their work. Sometimes, I propose a restaurant, sometimes, I let them propose. And yes, if they chose, they always go for something cheap yet quite delicious.

Also this time in Pattaya, I had more of the good experience when taking them to dinner before the hotel.

But perhaps the one I got from Happy was just not happy with me (and vice versa), i.e. just not the right match.

And as some of you mentioned, it is important, indeed to read some body language. This takes some time, and in the unhappy Happy case, I did not invest this time. I would consider this the main mistake.

Wonderer

And PS. for DG69: I did not take her to the restaurant to show up with a beautiful girl. In fact, I don't care too much what others think. And in Pattaya, it is sometimes even better not to be too visible (...), but with a pretty girl, it is more difficult to hide. So, showing up with a beauty and getting jealous looks was certainly not my motivation.

Sometimes I found people very naive.

How can you think that going to a restaurant with a bargirl in Pattaya can get some jealous looks from other men? Pattaya is full of ***** and any average man in a restaurant knows that the "couple" you mentioned is a made by a customer and a *****.

Moreover, you wrote that sometimes you heve noticed that bargirl flirts with other guys when the guy who barfined her looks in another direction.

My God! It's normal: they are ***** and they are there for money. If you berfined her today it is very difficult you will do the same thing tomorrow so she must think who will be the next guy to fuck. Simple as that.

Italy 1974

[QUOTE=DG69]I understand Wonderers wish, to show up with a beautiful girl in a restaurant and get some jealous looks from other men. But, it's not a good idea to make that with a girl who is just behind quick money.

I saw it quite often, that guys come with her barfined girls to Clubs to have some dancing and boasting before they go back to the Hotel. If the bar girl and the customer likes each other, they can have a good time. But, often I notice that the bar girl flirts with other guys when the guy who barfined her looks in another direction.

Best advice if you can't read body language, is take her to the room after barfining and if she still wants to stay, than go for diner or disco or cinema, or what ever.[/QUOTE]

I have been to Pattaya recent years and in my 60s now.Each stay has been between 4 to 17 days at a stretch.Most times I stayed in Pattaya Tai and in
between I stay at Jomtien, next to the airport bus stand.

I notice around Dongtan Beach which is halfway between Pattaya and Jomtien there are also hotels between the beach and the roundabout.Would this area be nice to roam about in day and night time and how much would
the baht buses cost to go halfway either way,that is from Pattaya to here
or from Jomtien to here.Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Member #3173]I notice around Dongtan Beach which is halfway between Pattaya and Jomtien there are also hotels between the beach and the roundabout.Would this area be nice to roam about in day and night time and how much would the baht buses cost to go halfway either way,that is from Pattaya to here or from Jomtien to here.[/QUOTE]Dongtan is pleasant in that you have a beach with no traffic along it, but seems to attract mostly gays and Russians (not that there's anything wrong with that). Songthaew to Pattaya are B20. Walkable to some Jomthien bars but they're nothing special. Only recommendable if you really want a quiet beach scene all day, and even then Na Kleua just north of Pattaya might be a better choice.

[QUOTE=Betong]Dongtan is pleasant in that you have a beach with no traffic along it, but seems to attract mostly gays and Russians (not that there's anything wrong with that). Songthaew to Pattaya are B20. Walkable to some Jomthien bars but they're nothing special. Only recommendable if you really want a quiet beach scene all day, and even then Na Kleua just north of Pattaya might be a better choice.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree: Na Kleua is one of the best choice for those looking for quiet beaches.

Sometimes too quiet.

Italy 1974