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[QUOTE=Optimist;1400112]Get yourself tested in a week or so, then you'll know. Don't rely on spotting symptoms[/QUOTE]One week is too early to test unless your're testing for baterial infections.
Should probably re test 6 weeks and again in 3 months afterwards (HIV). Many viral STDs will false negative if tested too early.
[QUOTE=Apache7633; 1399795]Had BBFS with a brazilian beauty during recent visit to FKK Palace, now worried shitless.
Wonder how safe it really was?[/QUOTE]Quit the bullshit man (only 2 posts). If you were worried shitless, you would not have done it.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1400231]Quit the bullshit man (only 2 posts). If you were worried shitless, you would not have done it.[/QUOTE]I find myself in agreement with you Sysygies and I also think it best that any further discussion of this matter should take place in the Safe Sex Section of ISG.
I see no point in discussing the whatnots and the maybes surrounding the predicament of Apache7633.
If he is really concerned about himself, he should take the matter further with medical professionals (I. E. Get himself checked out).
No solution to his predicament will be found here.
I wish him good luck but would like to see an end to this discussion here.
[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1400188]FKK Point.
FKK-Club Hautnah.
FKK First.
To name but three!
However as Heidelberg is roughly half way between Frankfurt and Stuttgart, I think that I would be heading to clubs in (or around) either of these two larger metropolis', rather than hanging around Heidelberg.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have work out that way and may be hotel in that area. I may try these other clubs you mentioned as these would be places I may visit for only a few hours after work on work nights. Are they lineups comparable to the frankfurt clubs or much worse? What about English here? Although my german is improving to the point where I can now convey most basic thoughts, albeit clumsily. Last question, are the session and extras similar to hessen clubs?
Thanks so much for endulging me
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1400231]Quit the bullshit man (only 2 posts). If you were worried shitless, you would not have done it.[/QUOTE]Was new to FFK scene, got carried away. Now scared! What I really wanted to discuss here is how the girls manage to remain clean an provide BBFS.
[QUOTE=Apache7633;1400958]Was new to FFK scene, got carried away. Now scared! What I really wanted to discuss here is how the girls manage to remain clean an provide BBFS.[/QUOTE]In Germany girls may or may not be tested: often it is a personal choice for them, always it is officially their choice as they are officially self-employed. Even if they are tested monthly there is a time lag between initial infection and showing up positive in tests (as Trans Atlantic has said). You need to live with the risk and consequences. The odds are against you having picked up anything. The issue is whether you are a gambling man or not. Don't panic. However nobody here can give you any re-assurance so you just need to get on and deal with it I'm afraid
[QUOTE=Meeps77;1400185]Wondering if you guys knew of any other than the ones in or around frankfurt[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kommodore; 1400188]FKK Point.
FKK-Club Hautnah.
FKK First.
To name but three!
However as Heidelberg is roughly half way between Frankfurt and Stuttgart, I think that I would be heading to clubs in (or around) either of these two larger metropolis', rather than hanging around Heidelberg.[/QUOTE]Meeps77,
Kommodore is correct. I expect you will have a rental car even if you are in the area for work. It is better to invest the extra drive to head to Paradise or Sakura in the Stuttgut area or drive up the A5 to Frankfurt for Sharks, Mainhattan or Palace or further up the road to Oase or World.
Even locals from the Heidelberg area go to the Frankfurt clubs as the better choice, just like you see Swiss licence plate cars and Luxembourg car licence plates in the FKK car parks.
[QUOTE=Apache7633; 1399795]Had BBFS with a brazilian beauty during recent visit to FKK Palace, now worried shitless.
Wonder how safe it really was?[/QUOTE]Apache,
Who was the Brazilian girl that you went with? How much did you pay for the service? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Apache7633;1400958]Was new to FFK scene, got carried away. Now scared! What I really wanted to discuss here is how the girls manage to remain clean an provide BBFS.[/QUOTE]As Ossian idicated, there are no answers to find here. How the provider remains clean is not going to help your current situation. You are assuming your particular provider even cares about STDs to begin with. She might just have every STD known to science and she is offering BBFS since she's got no downside in offering it.
As Optimist indicated, this hobby has risks and consequences.
If you want to partake, you have to manage the risk and fallout based on your own comfort level and deal with it accordingly.
After making my debut in a FKK some 10 days ago, in Artemis, I'm getting interested into them and planning to visit some others. I wrote in my post that I found "boring" to stay a long time there, especially if one is alone. I thought more or less FKK were all the same. After a bit of studying about the NRW area, I can change my statement: "boring" applies to Artemis, which, as to my knowledges of the moment, is different, maybe because in its area it has no competitors in its business (I don't think la-folie can be taken into account). In NRW I'm reading about tv, live events and, most important, wi-fi! I may go to Living Room in Kaarst or Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf and report Live! Got to do it! Also, no sky rocket prices down there: forget entrance 80, CIM 50, 30mins sessions 60euros and along like that. So, why this difference? What is escaping me?
Any of these Dusseldorf messe large enough to noticeably increase the number of guys and entry fee at Magnum?
http://www.messe-duesseldorf.de/uptodate/cipp/uptodate/pub2/md_events,menu,main.md_events.2013/lang,e
[QUOTE=EastGoing;1402069]In NRW I'm reading about tv, live events and, most important, wi-fi! Got to do it! Also, no sky rocket prices down there: forget entrance 80, CIM 50, 30mins sessions 60euros and along like that. So, why this difference? What is escaping me?[/QUOTE]Absolutely nothing is escaping you!
If Artemis was situated in NRW and still charged their prices the club would be almost empty I guess.
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[QUOTE=EastGoing;1402069]After making my debut in a FKK some 10 days ago, in Artemis, I'm getting interested into them and planning to visit some others. I wrote in my post that I found "boring" to stay a long time there, especially if one is alone. I thought more or less FKK were all the same. After a bit of studying about the NRW area, I can change my statement: "boring" applies to Artemis, which, as to my knowledges of the moment, is different, maybe because in its area it has no competitors in its business (I don't think la-folie can be taken into account). In NRW I'm reading about tv, live events and, most important, wi-fi! I may go to Living Room in Kaarst or Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf and report Live! Got to do it! Also, no sky rocket prices down there: forget entrance 80, CIM 50, 30mins sessions 60euros and along like that. So, why this difference? What is escaping me?[/QUOTE]Different Laender, different prices and price structure.
After a long while you will be doing the hobby, maybe you will come to the same conclusion I came, doesn't matter where I am, I finish spending almost always the same money because I started giving myself a budget and started sticking to it. Fortunately, over the years, I was lucky enough to be able to increase my budget. When I started I was worried when I got up to 250€ per day including entry, now I can afford something more but I usually make sure that if I feel fit I spend it all, notwithstanding where I am!
[QUOTE=EastGoing;1402069]After making my debut in a FKK some 10 days ago, in Artemis, I'm getting interested into them and planning to visit some others. I wrote in my post that I found "boring" to stay a long time there, especially if one is alone. I thought more or less FKK were all the same. After a bit of studying about the NRW area, I can change my statement: "boring" applies to Artemis, which, as to my knowledges of the moment, is different, maybe because in its area it has no competitors in its business (I don't think la-folie can be taken into account). In NRW I'm reading about tv, live events and, most important, wi-fi! I may go to Living Room in Kaarst or Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf and report Live! Got to do it! Also, no sky rocket prices down there: forget entrance 80, CIM 50, 30mins sessions 60euros and along like that. So, why this difference? What is escaping me?[/QUOTE]Competition, higher overheads in the City and a clientele that management think can afford it.