Vacc people should be given top priority if they get infected.
Unvacc people will die anyway so just leave them out in the parking lot and give them a ventilator hooked up to a school bus tail pipe so they can get high.
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Vacc people should be given top priority if they get infected.
Unvacc people will die anyway so just leave them out in the parking lot and give them a ventilator hooked up to a school bus tail pipe so they can get high.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2606138]So there are currently 64 studies and you saying 63 are not credible? 64 studies, 45 peer reviewed and 32 random controlled.
The countries who have used Ivermectin and since have reduces their deaths and hospitalizations do not count? India, Peru, Mexico, multiple African / South American / Central American countries. How about the fact that the parts of Africa that commonly use ivermectin on a regular basis because they need the anti-parasite drug (what it won the Nobel Prize for) have much lower death and hospital rates than the rest of Africa.
There is so much evidence for Ivermectin at this point people should really be wondering why mainstream media wants to only describe it as a horse dewormer and not even acknowledge its Nobel Prize winning use in humans.
You also may want to question why google and duckduckgo have complete different search results for the same ivermectin phrases. Why are people on youtube penalized 25% revenue for even talking about the 64 studies done.
India has taken legal action against the WHO person who is spreading anti-ivermectin information as it is costing lives. That person is facing life in prison for spreading anti-ivermectin misinformation.
To the people listening to the whole story the question is why are so many against ivermectin because it has been proven in many studies and more importantly. In REAL LIFE. That it is effective.[/QUOTE]Excellent work Hadez, Uttar Pradesh a Provence in India with 240 million people just announced they are covid free because of Ivermectin.
[QUOTE=PokerLover11;2605760]In the title of your link it says animal Ivermectin, Ivermectin won the Nobel prize for use in humans in 2015 that report you are citing is misleading. There are only three products that ionize zinc so that it can get into your cell if you have zinc in your cells and come in contact with covid it will be killed immediately, the other two products are quercetin and hydroxychloroquine. The second largest country in the world India is not credible?[/QUOTE]Dude, you keep posting claims that Google won't back up. How about posting a link or two to credible sources. I'm tired of trying to fact-check posts that are short on facts.
Here's a serious discussion from a respected source, of the ubiquitous bull crap about COVID.
[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-myths/art-20485720[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jackie888;2606094]Compassion fatigue is where you are at. Me too. At this point, I don't give a fuck about unvaccinated people anymore, and especially the anti-vacc. Just let them die. Whenever I hear another moron radio anti-vacc die, I do a little happy dance.
Just fucking die so that the rest of us can live.[/QUOTE]You have vocalized what may people are starting to feel.
Compassion fatigue. Tired to hear about unvaccinated people crowding hospitals. Most of us have no sympathy for unvaccinated COVID-19 patients in the US. Because they had plenty of chances and even bribes to get the vaccine.
I still have compassion for people in the developing world where they don't have access to vaccine.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2606119]Vacc people should be given top priority if they get infected.
Unvacc people will die anyway so just leave them out in the parking lot and give them a ventilator hooked up to a school bus tail pipe so they can get high.[/QUOTE]Your post makes me guess you are not too sick with Covid. You seem to be fully on.
[QUOTE=WombatEd2;2606204]Here's a serious discussion from a respected source, of the ubiquitous bull crap about COVID.
[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-myths/art-20485720[/URL][/QUOTE]Great Post! I would also include the NIH.
[QUOTE=WombatEd2;2606204]Here's a serious discussion from a respected source, of the ubiquitous bull crap about COVID.
[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-myths/art-20485720[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's a story regarding India's success.
[URL]https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-ivermectin-miracle-indias-240m-populated-largest-state-uttar-pradesh-horowitz/[/URL]
Bigger picture: the problem is two-fold.
We have google and social media that are manipulating what we see. I don't care if it's Ivermectin, politics, weather, or any topic. That is a significant and scary fact. They have historically been a trusted resource. Now, they deliver what THEY choose to deliver. They readily admit to this and when they are called out on it, they blame algorithms. This is every bit as big of an issue as state-run media in communist countries.
The other issue is that we, as a general population do not challenge what we hear. We do not think for ourselves. I understand trying to trust the "experts". But the experts have had two years to figure this out. And we're absolutely no better off than we were 12 or 18 months ago. So what happens? Our experts look to blame someone. It's the unvaccinated's fault. And many buy that line while not looking at real data and real results.
Just try to find the number of breakthrough cases that are out there. It can be done. But google and our "experts" make it difficult. If that's not enough, compare the initial vaccine efficacy studies to reality. Compare the longevity projections to reality. Literally, nothing our "experts" say comes to fruition. But we keep following them. We keep them in high regard. Why? Because reality is scary. They provide hope. False hope, but hope.
And as evidenced by this thread and this topic, it is to the point where google, social media and most mainstream media say the "horse drug" is bad. And we believe it. We let it go unchallenged, despite a lot of evidence that google won't provide.
I'm not trying to criticize anyone individually. I don't take ivermectin. Not sure if I ever would. But I'm learning about it. And that's my hope. We will all be better off if we're more informed, not just shooting down other ideas that aren't google or Fauci ideas.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2606138]So there are currently 64 studies and you saying 63 are not credible? 64 studies, 45 peer reviewed and 32 random controlled.
The countries who have used Ivermectin and since have reduces their deaths and hospitalizations do not count? India, Peru, Mexico, multiple African / South American / Central American countries...
There is so much evidence for Ivermectin at this point people should really be wondering why mainstream media wants to only describe it as a horse dewormer and not even acknowledge its Nobel Prize winning use in humans. [/QUOTE]Whenever these so called studies go through any vetting, they simply don't hold up. It doesn't matter how many articles you've written if they're dubious. They keep getting debunked one after another for data manipulation, bias, and questionable scientific methods.
And let's trust all the third world countries and their numbers because there's no way they would lie about how well they're fighting off a pandemic.
It's insane how people have been brainwashed to think there's such a huge conspiracy against them. The reason why nobody credible is pushing ivermectin / hydroxychloroquine / bleach / etc is because there's evidence it doesn't work. The only conspiracy happening is the army of disinformation trying to sow dissent among the uneducated against the government and actual experts. Yes, ivermectin is a great drug FOR PARASITES, so they deserve the Nobel Prize for that. But this is not a pandemic of elephantiasis we're talking about.
There's no big money pushing the vaccine agenda, it's just god damn public health. You think Pfizer and Moderna have more sway than the world's governments and all of the companies losing money everyday because of the pandemic? You don't think if there was a true miracle cure, it wouldn't already be widely pushed to get rid of this damn thing? Keep drinking that Kool Aid.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2606348]Here's a story regarding India's success.
[URL]https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-ivermectin-miracle-indias-240m-populated-largest-state-uttar-pradesh-horowitz/[/URL]
Literally, nothing our "experts" say comes to fruition. But we keep following them. We keep them in high regard. Why? Because reality is scary. They provide hope. False hope, but hope.[/QUOTE]Newsrescue is a questionable source to begin with. Look further on that site, and they're arguing ivermectin will also cure your cancer, MS, and HIV. And what they don't mention is that Uttar Pradesh also has a high vaccination rate relative to the rest of India.
[URL]https://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/highest-in-india-ups-vax-rate-ahead-of-us-russia-mohfw/amp_articleshow/86129801.cms[/URL]
Also, the experts are working on information in real time. Yes, things can change week by week. The vaccine efficacy rate has lowered slightly because of mutations. Booster recommendations change based on data. Mask recommendations changed based on supply and risk data. Just because they can't give you absolutes during an unprecedented pandemic doesn't mean they aren't giving you the best information they have at that time.
It's good to question things, but that goes for both sides.
[QUOTE=Jackie888;2606094]Compassion fatigue is where you are at. Me too. At this point, I don't give a fuck about unvaccinated people anymore, and especially the anti-vacc. Just let them die. Whenever I hear another moron radio anti-vacc die, I do a little happy dance.
Just fucking die so that the rest of us can live.[/QUOTE]My primary focus is the next set of pretty lips that will wrap around my verga. I am a hardcore monger so that is my mission and I block the other shit our. Monger on!
[QUOTE=MacNCheeze;2606395]There's no big money pushing the vaccine agenda[/QUOTE]Please, for the love of God, tell me you missed the sarcasm button. Discount studies you don't like all you want. But for God's sake, please tell me you aren't that naive.
[QUOTE=MacNCheeze;2606423]Newsrescue is a questionable source to begin with. Look further on that site, and they're arguing ivermectin will also cure your cancer, MS, and HIV. And what they don't mention is that Uttar Pradesh also has a high vaccination rate relative to the rest of India.
[URL]https://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/highest-in-india-ups-vax-rate-ahead-of-us-russia-mohfw/amp_articleshow/86129801.cms[/URL]
Also, the experts are working on information in real time. Yes, things can change week by week. The vaccine efficacy rate has lowered slightly because of mutations. Booster recommendations change based on data. Mask recommendations changed based on supply and risk data. Just because they can't give you absolutes during an unprecedented pandemic doesn't mean they aren't giving you the best information they have at that time.
It's good to question things, but that goes for both sides.[/QUOTE]As I said, I'm not sold on Ivermectin. I would strongly disagree with your moving target argument. It's simple science, really. When they develop a product and say it's 95% effective, they state that as fact. When that doesn't happen, well, they were just wrong. They are not adjusting a prediction; they are simply collecting data. Reality did not match their predictions. Is it that simple? No. And you're right, circumstances change. My larger point is that MUCH of the general public does not consider reality. They let a Fauci go unchecked.
What I strongly believe is that we'll be living with this to some extent for years, if not decades or longer. To me, we're at the point where we need to assess our own risk profiles and be responsible for our decisions. I take GREAT exception to the misleading statistics pushed by the CDC and other government agencies. They speak to being 8 times less likely to contract COVID with the vaccine. That is idiot math. There are millions of variables that make that statement nothing but a misleading lie. Buried in their reporting is the fact that over 20% of new cases are breakthrough cases. I understand they are "selling" the vaccine. But they owe us clarity and truth. That is NOT what our health "experts" are providing.
[QUOTE=MacNCheeze;2606423]Newsrescue is a questionable source to begin with. Look further on that site, and they're arguing ivermectin will also cure your cancer, MS, and HIV. And what they don't mention is that Uttar Pradesh also has a high vaccination rate relative to the rest of India.
[URL]https://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/highest-in-india-ups-vax-rate-ahead-of-us-russia-mohfw/amp_articleshow/86129801.cms[/URL]
Also, the experts are working on information in real time. Yes, things can change week by week. The vaccine efficacy rate has lowered slightly because of mutations. Booster recommendations change based on data. Mask recommendations changed based on supply and risk data. Just because they can't give you absolutes during an unprecedented pandemic doesn't mean they aren't giving you the best information they have at that time.
It's good to question things, but that goes for both sides.[/QUOTE]One more anecdotal message. Look up Goa, India. Now, you'll tell me their vaccination rates are fantastic, and I would agree. But look at the timing. Goa's peak of new cases was May 10-11. On May 10, the Goa government embraced Ivermectin, in fact recommending taking 5 tablets, of 3 MG each. And almost overnight, their cases dropped precipitously. As I said, it is anecdotal. And I would not claim Ivermectin alone delivered those results. But I absolutely will say that the timing should be extremely interesting, particularly when you see that the great successes they've had with vaccinations are well after the new cases dropped by over 500%.
I'm not an Ivermectin salesman. (Though, if you are reading this, Merck, call me for a resume. LOL) But, again, my only hope is that we, as a population, think for ourselves. Don't blindly accept what the experts tell us as fact. The more we know, the better off we'll be.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2606433]My primary focus is the next set of pretty lips that will wrap around my verga. I am a hardcore monger so that is my mission and I block the other shit our. Monger on![/QUOTE]Exactly, isn't this an international mongering board? We should outlaw obesity while we're at it and haul them off to the slaughter house because they have no self control over what they put into their mouths. Everybody lives their life differently. Live and let live. Rock out with your cock out.