Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1187785]GFE does not necessarily mean bareback. It is just different than being with prostitutes in other countries where girls are all business wham boom type and take your money and run.

There are some girls like that in AC also but a majority are different. They consider you as a date for the night and will act like your girlfriend with extras.

In Thailand also you can find GFE girls but since Thailand is well known tourist destination there are lot more mongers. So the girls in Thailand can be more mercenary.

Thailand more of a tourist destination in terms of infrastructure and non-mongering activities and ofcourse food if you like spicy.

If you have never been to either destination I would first go to Thailand especially Pattaya and experience it. If you have time visit AC also. After that it is a personal preference where you wish to go next time.[/QUOTE]Right, and most of them go bareback and want you to cum in their pussy. They will also do that in Thailand, but much more the norm in Phils.

Also, it is well documented that the Phils has many more "runners" than any other SEA mongering spot.

Dear posters,

Did anyone visit this new place?

I couldn't find a report but I'm very curious.

Gr. Rick666 from Holland.

[quote=rick666; 1188103]dear posters,

did anyone visit this new place?

i couldn't find a report but i'm very curious.

gr. rick666 from holland.[/quote]i have not, but the reports on another site are positive. same prices as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, but with a much nicer atmosphere.

[QUOTE=Cwomd; 1187257]BTW. I did some research, and I found out that there's a different strain of HIV in Thailand. Barebacking sex workers has a risk as high as 1 in 300 of catching HIV.

The american HIV is more based on blood as in from gay / anal sex, which is why only 10% HIV+ in America is hetero. Here it's 80% HIV+ are hetero.

The infection rate from the HIV strain in America is 1 in 500-1000. Here it's 1 in 30-50. 2% thai are HIV+, but for sex workers it's 10% or more.

10% * 1 in 30 = 1 in 300.

[url]http://thailandguru.com/hiv-aids-thailand.html[/url][/QUOTE]Interesting link, but what I've been reading on the subject does not agree with a number of things you've posted above.

As regards the notion that the HIV-E strain dominant in Thailand is much more potent or far easier to catch than the HIV-B strain dominant in America, some more recent studies than that your source referred to did not support that theory.

The estimates for HIV infection in Siam I've been seeing are not your figure of 2 percent, but around 1% {0. 67-1. 5%} of the population. Even if we go with the high 10% number you gave for P4P TG's, consider the following comment:

"If we take Degan's number of 1/2000, and use 10% infection in the target group (and that is probably too large, but we'll go with it) , we arrive at 13, 862. 6 sexual encounters to have a 50% probability of infection. That's a different partner every single day for about 38 years, and then it is only even money you are infected."

IMO once BBing a random Thai sex worker would have a far lower risk probability for getting HIV than your rate of 1 in 300. I believe that is way off even if she is known to have the disease, so consider how much more wrong it is when you give that as a figure for a random BB encounter, that is, one with a P4P TG of unknown HIV status. According to Wikipedia under HIV transmission the risk is estimated at 1 in 2000 for an act of vaginal sex with a HIV positive female.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV[/url]

"I think the high rate of hetero infection in Thailand is simply due to the fact it is a more promiscuous society. The sex industry is so pervasive, there is simply more extramarital activity occuring. It remains to be proven that Subtype E is any more invasive. The fact that it has not become more prevalent in the West after many years contradicts the theory.

"Seems like a reach to me. Have they accounted for how huge the sex trade is in Thailand, needle use in Thailand. This is just a thought, but in the beginning, aids was thought of as a homosexual disease. Segregation between the orientations kept the spread to homosexuals for a long time. Would it not be hard to believe that hiv had its root in heterosexual sex in Thailand and that segregation again slows the transmission to the homosexual population, which could account for the 80% prevalence in heterorsexuals. I don't know, I just don't see that statistic as proof that E type is more transmissionable then B type"

"I figure that if there is any difference in reported HIV transmission route here in Thailand is probably more likely down to people not answering truthfully questions on how they got the virus. Can't Imagine that many Thais admitting to anal sex, gay sex or injecting drug use. Besides how would it account for the fact that HIV cases in Thailand are 70%+ males? Especially when it's far easier for women to catch than men.

"He rambles about how much easier subtype E is to acquire compared to other clades. If that was the case, it would have become dominant worldwide a long time ago! It doesn't make sense. The reason HIV is predominantly heterosexual in Thailand is same as why HIV is heterosexual in Africa. Rampant prostitution with low condom usage. Why look for complex answers when you have an obvious one? This guy may be a guru, but he doesn't sound anything like an HIV expert to me.

"Female to male transmission occurs more readily if the man is uncircumcized". In Thailand only 13% are circumcised, most of these Muslims. In the USA and Canada 70 and 30 percent are reported as being circumcised.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision[/url]

"This study basically says that they should look for other reasons why strain E is spreading so fast in South East Asia."

[url]http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/71/10/8001.pdf[/url]

[b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the [u]Safe Sex[/u] topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[quote=rick666; 1188103]dear posters,

did anyone visit this new place?

i couldn't find a report but i'm very curious.

gr. rick666 from holland.[/quote]the famous tuk / som of sol and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] works there (not sure in what capacity).

i bumped into her in the 7 eleven and she suggested i might go to lollipop.

unfortunately was too busy at the time.

[quote=syzygies; 1188356]the famous tuk / som of sol and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] works there (not sure in what capacity).

i am sure she is just a waitress.

Ok, Don't keep us wondering, where is this place Lollipop BJ bar. I back tracked on the forum and must have missed it. Help please

Google is a marvelous too!

"The bar is called 'The Lollipop 1' and it's in Soi 10 (BKK) , in the first little sub-soi on the left (just turn left at the purple colored Paradiso Boutique Suites Hotel and you can't miss it."

[QUOTE=Mackin;1188384]Ok, Don't keep us wondering, where is this place Lollipop BJ bar. I back tracked on the forum and must have missed it. Help please[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jgm005; 1188389]Google is a marvelous too!

"The bar is called 'The Lollipop 1' and it's in Soi 10 (BKK) , in the first little sub-soi on the left (just turn left at the purple colored Paradiso Boutique Suites Hotel and you can't miss it."[/QUOTE]Google is good for 80-90% of the questions in these Forums. Don't know why more just don't use it. Seems like common sense.

Gee sorry guys but I never thought to google for "blow job bars in Bangkok". I will try that from now on.

Gee sorry guys but I never thought to google for "blow job bars in Bangkok". I will try that from now on. Add on, The report says lollipop only, not lolllipop 1.

[QUOTE]Afterskool was a big disappointment: Yes the lady drinks are cheaper there but the girls hunt in packs of three or four. Lots of hustling and no LT options available. I even doubt if they do ST. Just BJ in the "naughty boys corner" in the back of the bar.[/QUOTE]That was not my experience when I visited in November. Yes, I was approached by the girls. And in some cases I was approached by two or three girls. But my polite wave off was honored and I was left to drink in peace. When I found a hottie I fancied it was no problem arranging a short time session at my hotel.

Regards,

Bunky

[QUOTE=Bunky; 1188698]That was not my experience when I visited in November. Yes, I was approached by the girls. And in some cases I was approached by two or three girls. But my polite wave off was honored and I was left to drink in peace. When I found a hottie I fancied it was no problem arranging a short time session at my hotel.

Regards,

Bunky[/QUOTE]That girl has the body of a 12 year old and face of a 14 year old boy. Thanks for sharing though.

From Thai Visa:

Although banned by law, prostitution is common place in the tourism districts of Thailand, which nearly 14 million tourists visit annually. A large chunk of these are single males or male groups of tourists seeking sex or sex-oriented fun.

A recent World Health Organisation (WHO) report has pegged the number of female prostitutes in the country at 2 lakh.

From Wikipedia:

A lakh (/&712; læk / lak or/&712; l&593; &720; k / lahk; also lac) is a unit in the Indian numbering system equal to one hundred thousand (100, 000).

2 lahk sounds like less.