German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Pistons;2428210]Why so worried?

I'd play tag team if I had caught it. Too bad I don't have any plans on going to northern Italy (nor Asia for that matter). We'll all get it within a few years anyway, so better just get it over with. I'm more worried about the vaccines that eventually will come, with their side effects.[/QUOTE]Influenza kill more people than corona virus in USA, but somehow whole mass media is going nuts over this virus that has only 2 % death rate. If you are old, infant or has some specific disease, one should take more cautions, but this whole thing is too over hyped and sex forum for sure will not have answer to save this world form corona virus LOL.

Mongers has more chance of getting STD, which is already very difficult to get.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2417591]Dow is down 400 points due to it. CDC suggested today to stop or postpone trips to China. Are the FKK girls now avoiding customers from China / Asia due to fear of Coronavirus? Are the clubs stopping customers from China / Asia to enter?[/QUOTE]What do you think would have happened if the countries had stopped or quarantined Chinese / Asians (and anyone else who were in Asia in last 2 months) to travel to other parts of the world in January? Could this Coronavirus current pandemic be stopped back then? Do the nay sayers still think that would have been racist or xenophobic as opposed to appropriate step to prevent this pandemic? What did we learn in last 4 weeks, besides the fact that some folks here love to argue without deep thinking or knowledge in a subject?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2428354]Influenza kill more people than corona virus in USA, but somehow whole mass media is going nuts over this virus that has only 2 % death rate. If you are old, infant or has some specific disease, one should take more cautions, but this whole thing is too over hyped and sex forum for sure will not have answer to save this world form corona virus LOL.

Mongers has more chance of getting STD, which is already very difficult to get.[/QUOTE]You realize that Influenza has vaccines and treatments, so if you get treated right on-time, there is zero chance of death from that. We should treat this Coronavirus same as Influenza or STDs once there is a proven vaccine and / or an effective treatment. Until then, you are really helpless if you get it.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2426568] I doubt there will be any FKK in America. There is a hope though; a lot of millennial and gen Zs are becoming officially polyamorous.[/QUOTE]This could cut in both directions though. If free polyamory becomes more frequent, that could actually lessen the demand for commercial sex.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2427478]Didn't the same women go back to him or open their homes (read "vaginas") to him even after the first time being rap*the? And they made millions because of the guy, that they are not returning or even donating. What do you call these women? Opportunistic working girls?[/QUOTE]You call these women victims who refused to let their entire lives be ruined by a disgusting rapist.

I have been in Dusseldorf for couple of weeks and have been using the weekend to try different clubs. Here's an update.

1. Club Dolce Vita: Probably the most expensive but well kept. Entry is Eur 65 that includes free beer and a decent buffet spread. The girls charge from Eur 50 for half an hour. It is not very big and surprisingly doesn't have a porno room. I had tried Club Oceans couple of years back in the same price range and that one is bigger and better. The quality of girls is pretty good. But no kissing and BJ only with cover.

2. Club Seven Heaven: I chanced upon it as I was visiting a friend close by. It's the cheapest club around Dusseldorf. Mostly for locals who don't stay too long. It's pretty neat for the entry price of Eur 25 which includes non-alcholic drinks and a buffet. Girls charge Eur 40 for half an hour. The quality is ok. They say they will kiss but they really don't. But you can get BJ without cover. There is a Spanish MILF who is pretty sexy. Forgot the name. Probably the highest earner there. But the club is closed for renovation now.

3. Club Acapulco Gold: This place is horrible. Just one big lounge where people have trouble finding a place to relax. Plus the sauna has its entry through this lounge. So it gets pretty warm. There is a porno kino but crowded again. Entry is Eur 35 with beer included till 7 pm. The girls charge Eur 40 for half an hour and BJ is without cover. I had the best time with one of the girls. Forgot her name but gave her a 15 Eur tip. Buffet is good. But it isn't a relaxing place.

4. Club Magnum: The most awesome club in Dusseldorf. Not for its girls but for it's ambience and sheer size. It has oriental interiors and it is really big with lot of nooks and corners to explore. But I reached there in the afternoon and had to wait for couple of hours before any decent girl showed up. Entry is Eur 30 if you reach before 3 pm and the girls charge Eur 50 for half an hour. But they are not worth it. Plus beer starts at 4 Eur.

If only they could combine the ambience of Magnum with the girls and service quality of Acapulco.

Happy Mongering!

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2428278]I don't think you understand the USA Scene.

USA Escorts and Sugar Babies, even "White trash girls", already do extremely well advertising as independent escorts and Seeking Arrangement sites.

There would be no reason for USA Ladies to travel to the Mexican side of the border to work at an FKK type establishment.

Decriminalization would potentially increase the number of advertisers, and possibly reduce the prices in the USA, but it would not change the worldwide trend of sex work shifting to more of an independent worker arranging a specific meeting format.[/QUOTE]I have been to USA for holiday, but I never mongered in USA beside I walked into strip club once, and tried escort in DC, so I do not know how good or bad the mongering scene is beside I often read on forum from some guys from America that the scene is quite bad, so my bad, so escort and sugar babies via internet scene is pretty efficient and good in USA then.

I tried escort few times in Europe, mostly in French speaking part of Switzerland and so far it never failed me, but what I do not like with escort is that you cannot see them before. I like to see girls before and for this I am so grateful for setup like FKK where you can even see girls nude before you decide to fuck them. This for me is ultimate setup.

Nudity is best we can even see how the shape of tits are, how nipple is shape, under hair or no under hair, if ass is nice without wrinkles etc.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2428354]Influenza kill more people than corona virus in USA, but somehow whole mass media is going nuts over this virus that has only 2 % death rate. If you are old, infant or has some specific disease, one should take more cautions, but this whole thing is too over hyped and sex forum for sure will not have answer to save this world form corona virus LOL.

Mongers has more chance of getting STD, which is already very difficult to get.[/QUOTE]Couple of years ago there was this British dude who travelled around knowing he had HIV, and tried to spread it around as much as possible. Think he ended up in jail if I'm not mistaken (150 victims). His problem was that he knew about it.

Oh, and regarding fixing world problems on a sex forum.

Genghis Kahn measured the importance of his empire by the pure size of his harem. I therefore suspect most of the world problems at the time was handled in such an environment.

In China, normal business practice is to hit a sauna (brothel) after a business dinner. Since that's where real corporate bonds are made.

After all, sex enhances creativity. So you'd be surprised at who you can meet in sex environments, and which matters are handled to in such forums (usually off line).

Too bad the powerful elite cramps down on our hobby (everybody's hobby I guess. Just that most humans try to suppress it) due to all this depopulation agenda thing. Plus they don't understand enough. And because they don't tackle sex and prostitution in a more clever way (statistics regarding polygamy and p6 doesn't have to lead to more babies), they go all crisis mode and release these death viruses all around instead. Very humane. Very politically correct. Very modern. Big fucking human PR show. In the end we're all just apes with limited bandwidth.

Human history is all about population control. I personally praise the Aztecs for their open PR towards it: Sacrifice to the Gods when the land could not sustain more.

Nowadays, all we get is some baked up reality TV show. Live with Donald Trump at the helmet.

[QUOTE=Kamsutra69;2428556]I have been in Dusseldorf for couple of weeks and have been using the weekend to try different clubs. Here's an update.

1. Club Dolce Vita: Probably the most expensive but well kept. Entry is Eur 65 that includes free beer and a decent buffet spread. The girls charge from Eur 50 for half an hour. It is not very big and surprisingly doesn't have a porno room. I had tried Club Oceans couple of years back in the same price range and that one is bigger and better. The quality of girls is pretty good. But no kissing and BJ only with cover.

2. Club Seven Heaven: I chanced upon it as I was visiting a friend close by. It's the cheapest club around Dusseldorf. Mostly for locals who don't stay too long. It's pretty neat for the entry price of Eur 25 which includes non-alcholic drinks and a buffet. Girls charge Eur 40 for half an hour. The quality is ok. They say they will kiss but they really don't. But you can get BJ without cover. There is a Spanish MILF who is pretty sexy. Forgot the name. Probably the highest earner there. But the club is closed for renovation now.

3. Club Acapulco Gold: This place is horrible. Just one big lounge where people have trouble finding a place to relax. Plus the sauna has its entry through this lounge. So it gets pretty warm. There is a porno kino but crowded again. Entry is Eur 35 with beer included till 7 pm. The girls charge Eur 40 for half an hour and BJ is without cover. I had the best time with one of the girls. Forgot her name but gave her a 15 Eur tip. Buffet is good. But it isn't a relaxing place.[/QUOTE]Didn't you see relax room where girls don't go, on first floor at Gold? Where you can rest, sleep. Entry 25 on happy hours.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2428637]Couple of years ago there was this British dude who travelled around knowing he had HIV, and tried to spread it around as much as possible. Think he ended up in jail if I'm not mistaken (150 victims). His problem was that he knew about it.[/QUOTE]You mostly contract virus by anal sex because you get small cut on your dick and anal during the penetration, but in FKK, we wear condom, so chance of contracting such a strong disease is very slim.

I have been mongering for over 20 years now since age 17 or 18, and for FKK, it is my 10th year mongering in FKK, and I never had any STD. I do wear condom for penetration in most cases though, just with some escort I go bareback.

I was always interested in so called AO club that existed and still exist? Now in Germany before the new law, but I never did due to question mark on quality of the looks of lineup and also I was bit concern for safety STD wise. It must be some hardcore, but fun place though.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2426976] ....But an FKK style club will be too high profile anywhere in the US and will quickly become a national issue.[/QUOTE]National issue why? Because of two-faced married guys who goes to FKKs in Germany but won't support FKKs in USA in fear of getting caught by the "loving" wives? Guys who pretend that they believe that prostitution is bad for girls, but themselves goes to prostitutes and sugar babes? I think the main reason FKKs will become national issue and never happen in USA is because of these hypocrite voters.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2428604]I have been to USA for holiday, but I never mongered in USA beside I walked into strip club once, and tried escort in DC, so I do not know how good or bad the mongering scene is beside I often read on forum from some guys from America that the scene is quite bad, so my bad, so escort and sugar babies via internet scene is pretty efficient and good in USA then.

I tried escort few times in Europe, mostly in French speaking part of Switzerland and so far it never failed me, but what I do not like with escort is that you cannot see them before. I like to see girls before and for this I am so grateful for setup like FKK where you can even see girls nude before you decide to fuck them. This for me is ultimate setup.

Nudity is best we can even see how the shape of tits are, how nipple is shape, under hair or no under hair, if ass is nice without wrinkles etc.[/QUOTE]I was just pointing out how things really work in the USA, and throughout much of the world.

Commercial sex is often tolerated, and occasionally even legal, but Germany, Brazil, Netherlands, Curaçao, and a few other countries are the only ones that have the scene out in the open, and the trend is very much in the other direction worldwide.

I make no assertion as to which approach is better, I am just pointing out that if true decriminalization ever comes to individual states in the USA, there will be no change in local zoning laws that would be able to keep an FKK-style establishment from opening. The strip joint scene in the USA Has declined due to zoning. And if a legal, regulated brothel were allowed to exist and forced into a community, there would be enormous and adhered-to restrictions on services, such as the mandatory CBJ rule in the Nevada brothels.

The independent escort and sugar-baby scene is expensive and hit / miss in the USA, but very good service can be obtained through reading reviews, trial / error, and repeating once you find a hit. It is not what FKK / Club guys want, but the FKK scene will just never exist in the USA.

And there is no pent-up supply of American women in the USA Wanting to enter sex work at a low price. It isn't that difficult even now for them to do so. They need a cell phone and an email address to do so, by taking out a Sugar Baby ad. Yes it is inefficient for them, but the payoff is still huge compared to what women charge in a German FKK.

There is enormous pent-up supply of women in Venezuela, Colombia, and parts of Central America and Mexico wanting to enter the commercial sex market with USA Customers, but the USA Is simply never going to allow temporary visas for sex work, or give an exemption from immigration compliance for workers. Hell, even open-minded Spain and Portugal close places if they have illegal aliens.

Mexico, primarily through Tijuana, already has something of an organized scene. So the one question you raise is a good one. Many USA Guys who don't venture to Tijuana worry about safety. There is great logic to the establishment of a very upscale FKK in Tijuana that would have very good security, upscale facilities, real Mexican food, transportation to / from the San Diego border, etc. Presumably the realities of Mexican life / politics keeps this from happening, just like the fact that the commercial sex scene in Romania itself is quite weak even though the FKK scene is full of Romanians.

And San Diego is a great place to visit. So if someone wants to change the world, or at least change a North America, you would be better off trying for FKK Tijuana (featuring Mexican and Venezuelan and Colombian ladies) than trying for FKK Vermont.

Agree on Magnum. I was luck visiting the club 4 yrs ago. And then it was the most amazing experience I ever had -- definitely 100 girls. And despite being crowded never I had to wait. There are tons of more rooms in the 2nd floor-and even in the 3rd floor.

DC turned into rip-off place for me. Like Oceans.

[QUOTE=Kamsutra69;2428556]I have been in Dusseldorf for couple of weeks and have been using the weekend to try different clubs. Here's an update.

1. Club Dolce Vita: Probably the most expensive but well kept. Entry is Eur 65 that includes free beer and a decent buffet spread. The girls charge from Eur 50 for half an hour. It is not very big and surprisingly doesn't have a porno room. I had tried Club Oceans couple of years back in the same price range and that one is bigger and better. The quality of girls is pretty good. But no kissing and BJ only with cover.

2. Club Seven Heaven: I chanced upon it as I was visiting a friend close by. It's the cheapest club around Dusseldorf. Mostly for locals who don't stay too long. It's pretty neat for the entry price of Eur 25 which includes non-alcholic drinks and a buffet. Girls charge Eur 40 for half an hour. The quality is ok. They say they will kiss but they really don't. But you can get BJ without cover. There is a Spanish MILF who is pretty sexy. Forgot the name. Probably the highest earner there. But the club is closed for renovation now.

3. Club Acapulco Gold: This place is horrible. Just one big lounge where people have trouble finding a place to relax. Plus the sauna has its entry through this lounge. So it gets pretty warm. There is a porno kino but crowded again. Entry is Eur 35 with beer included till 7 pm. The girls charge Eur 40 for half an hour and BJ is without cover. I had the best time with one of the girls. Forgot her name but gave her a 15 Eur tip. Buffet is good. But it isn't a relaxing place.

4. Club Magnum: The most awesome club in Dusseldorf. Not for its girls but for it's ambience and sheer size. It has oriental interiors and it is really big with lot of nooks and corners to explore. But I reached there in the afternoon and had to wait for couple of hours before any decent girl showed up. Entry is Eur 30 if you reach before 3 pm and the girls charge Eur 50 for half an hour. But they are not worth it. Plus beer starts at 4 Eur.

If only they could combine the ambience of Magnum with the girls and service quality of Acapulco.

Happy Mongering![/QUOTE]