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Mayorista is not my thing but they seem to have cleaned it up a little. It is a step up from the street girls in San Diego, but not much of a step up.
Centro is okay I go during the day and never at night, I mean you have to know exactly where you can and can't go as you could be walking along the street and unknowingly cross from a safe area to an unsafe area.
Some of the streets are seedy enough during the day, I would hate to on them at night.
If a Casa's hours are till 8:00 pm is that the last time they will let you in the door or is that the time you need to be out by? Or does it vary by casa to casa?
To go to "La Galeria" district. The quality is not great though.
[QUOTE=DrWasabee;1603602]Flying back into Medellin on Tuesday night scheduled arrival 7:10 pm I'm leaving back home very early Wednesday morning so I booked a room by the airport. I was hoping to get some more action that night I was thinking of going to energy I know in the list it says closes at 9:30 is that last appointment or when you have to be out by? Any suggestions or anything near the airport or some Cassa opened later would like some thing with some better than average talent.
Thanks[/QUOTE].
I have been away for a couple of years and because of a near return, I started reading this thread. What struck me is the correspondence about tipping for a BBBJ, including CIM or not.
When I lived in Medellin I visited many of the places (still) mentioned here and I have never had to negotiate in advance about the BBBJCIM. I finished 90% of the sessions that way. Of course I rewarded them afterwards.
But it's the preceding negotiation that is new to me.
[QUOTE=Menteng;1604189]I have been away for a couple of years and because of a near return, I started reading this thread. What struck me is the correspondence about tipping for a BBBJ, including CIM or not.
When I lived in Medellin I visited many of the places (still) mentioned here and I have never had to negotiate in advance about the BBBJCIM. I finished 90% of the sessions that way. Of course I rewarded them afterwards.
But it's the preceding negotiation that is new to me.[/QUOTE]Nothing has really changed amigo.
Some guys go with the flow, get lucky, get the chemestry going, and usually enjoy the ensuing goodies (BBJ, etc).
Other dudes just get the goodies in other ways, (I. E. Paying / Negotiating).
Both ways work, just one is a sure bet if that's what ya want.
I never have been a negotiator type. I like the fantasy of the real GFE without the negotiation.
If the little extras don't just don't come naturally, no big deal for me, I'm just off to the next affair.
Obviously nothing wrong with a negotiated tip for extra services, just not my thing.
So like I said, nothing has changed in that regard.
Have fun on your return!
[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1604058]Mayorista is not my thing but they seem to have cleaned it up a little. It is a step up from the street girls in San Diego, but not much of a step up.
Centro is okay I go during the day and never at night, I mean you have to know exactly where you can and can't go as you could be walking along the street and unknowingly cross from a safe area to an unsafe area.
Some of the streets are seedy enough during the day, I would hate to on them at night.[/QUOTE]Newbie to Medellin question.
2 trips to Medellin under my belt. I walked el centro during the day and it was very crowded. I walked hooker road (calle 53?) and felt safe enough.
I have heard over and over how unsafe downtown can be, but have never heard any details of what can happen in broad daylight with lots of people around? I can understand being in an area with few people or paste at night. What's the danger during the day?
[QUOTE=Jet69;1604507]Newbie to Medellin question.
2 trips to Medellin under my belt. I walked el centro during the day and it was very crowded. I walked hooker road (calle 53?) and felt safe enough.
I have heard over and over how unsafe downtown can be, but have never heard any details of what can happen inn broad daylight with lots of people around? I can understand being in an area with few people or paste at night. What's the danger during the day?[/QUOTE]Pickpockets. A few years ago 2 guys tried to pickpocket me. One guy tapped me on the shoulder and while I was turning around the other guy reached in my FRONT pocket. Fortunately for me he picked the wrong pocket, and all he got was a handkerchief. They ran off quickly, I didn't even see what they looked like.
I had some pesos in the other pocket, but it was safe.
Emely [URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/mariana/emily%20prepago%20paisa.php[/URL].
Fernanda [URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/fernanda/valeria%20masajista%20paisa.php[/URL].
Laureles Cra. 73 # 30 see -128, house.
Price Emely: 120 k + BBBJ 40 k, Fernanda 120 k +30 k.
In my specific case, I must add, the oralsex is at least 50% of the time and sex, so it is really worth the money.
I described Mafe at New Life as a 7. With this girls (and place) in mind, I must drop that to a 3, while giving Emely a 9 and Fernanda an 8.
I made a daylong session. 1 pm to 7 pm, 1 hs lunch. I totally payed for sex 4. 5 hs, 1 hs with both, totally 5. 5 for 790 k, including BBBJ.
Emely (27).
Face: model, angellike. Is "modelo de protocolo" this weekend at the airport Feria de Flores, and also her younger sister, which she said is even more beautiful.
Body: very good shape, a 9.
Breasts: silicon, like ballons, but perfectly made. I just loved them, a 9.
Ass: Natural 9.
Legs: naturally relatively long good shaped, a 9.
Arms / hands / feets: feminine a 9.
Shoulders and back: also a 9, almost 10.
Hair: typically paisa, very long down to her waist, adds a lot to her beauty, a 9.
Skills, oral: Amazing. Pornostyle, romanticstyle. Spontaneous started giving oral pleasure during the sessions. Perfect 10!
Orals giving; smells terrific. She loves recieving oral in any position.
Intercourse: superb in front on the mirror standing, "en cuatro". On top or missionary.
With Fernanda: they worked as a team and I felt like a King.
Experience: she really know how to make a man feel good, physically and mentally.
Fernanda (18).
Since she is young she is of course even more beautiful than Emely, like a little princess.
She is thin and looks very innocent and is a little shy. Emely is like her teacher- Fernanda needs to develop her oral skills. Good, however she uses to much force, that is teachable though.
She has a very tight vagina and it hurted a lot, she said, when I penetrated from behind and reached "her stomach". On top she was comfortable though and took comand and seemingly enjoying it. Fernanda likes Anglo-Saxon guys, however we in general seem to be "bien dotados" and one time she had a blond handsome customer, but he was simply to big for her.
In overall the best sexday in my life. I had 3-4-5 of this 2013, marathondays, this one in one place only, and with Emely 4. 5 hs and Fernanda 1 hs. / I payed Emely for 4 hs, got 1/2 hs free. She had to call her boss for this, since they have a camera counting customers and time. After the lunchbreak she personally accepted 3 hs for 2 hs pay if I went 1 hs with both girls and we had a deal, but the boss by telephone reduced it to 2. 5 hs. I thought she could manage this herself, but since not, I know have to leave the idea of getting a low hour-rate if I repeat. But time will tell, in the future we can meet in private. The Idea was to get my absolute favorite girl and offer her a suberb deal, with made a very good impression. This worked 2013 with Yeraldin. I'm now a good friend of hers and we have had discussions about long-term agreements, travelling etc. At a very reduced rate. The chemistry has to work though. It could have had the reverse effect; that the price demanded stays high. This is difficult to catch in plain text. You feel when you have a deal or not!
Fernanda gets an 8 since Emelys oralskills and overall skills are top level, pornostar skills and looks very familiar to Lela Star and Jennaveve Jolie, she gets a 9.
Paisasdivinas Karol are at the same level 8-9.
To manage having sex 2 hs + 2. 5 hs I took a mix of Cialis and Viagra. On Avenida Bolivariana in Belen (Cra 74) there's an drugstore that sells Sildenafin (Viagra) 50 mg softtabs. This works in a few minutes and gives no headache or blush. The pure effect was incredibly good. The erection was of the type one has at 15 yo! And the very high bloodpressure that the Cialis & Viagra gives (in the penis, not overall), blocks the ejaculation impulse so much that one can control it almost 100%.
The pills are: GELPIN sildenafilo 50 mg x 2 8900 COP.
The drugstore: Droguera Servidescuentos Diagonal 74 be # 32 06 , servicio a domicilio gratis gratis: 238 1113, creditcards accepted.
This was one of few marathonsessions 2014. I doubt that there will be more of them since it is expensive.
The quality / price ratio is very favourable. It was GFE, it was beauty, it was porno de luxe. 120 k in basic price for such beauty. This is economical. The same level of girl / s in the US or Western Europe charges $200-300 or 200-300, more likely 300, or even above.
Here in Medellin I payed $60 (a little more since the COP is very strong for the moment). $60 is a price that you can get at corresponding installations like this around the world. In a nice neighbourhood, nice interior, friendly professional staff. But the beauty and the GFE, that's what makes Medellin (Colombia) the best place in the world for buying erotic services. The level of satisfaction is very high. My impression during the session was like "Why doesn't these beauties charge a lot more?
The physical exhuastion on the penis, and vagina reached it's maximums. And the mouth of Emely as well as she gave passionate oral pleasure for almost 2 hs. Actually, when showering afterwards, I used ice to cool the most sensitive parts, which helped a lot.
This session was THE GOOD LIFE. It's a memory for life.
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1604758]
[b]She had to call her boss for this, since they have a camera counting customers and time[/b]. After the lunchbreak she personally accepted 3 hs for 2 hs pay if I went 1 hs with both girls and we had a deal, but the boss by telephone reduced it to 2. 5 hs. I thought she could manage this herself, but since not, I know have to leave the idea of getting a low hour-rate if I repeat. But time will tell, in the future we can meet in private. The Idea was to get my absolute favorite girl and offer her a suberb deal, with made a very good impression. This worked 2013 with Yeraldin. I'm now a good friend of hers and we have had discussions about long-term agreements, travelling etc. At a very reduced rate. The chemistry has to work though. It could have had the reverse effect; that the price demanded stays high. This is difficult to catch in plain text. You feel when you have a deal or not!
[/QUOTE]The links to the chicas you posted are nice, and I get that you hope to be able to make arrangements with them outside of their 9-5 puta job holed up in their apartment, but how realistic do you think that will be considering they have to clear everything through management ("Chulo", err, I mean "Boss")?
You're talking about taking one of his h0es out of rotation for a long length of time and he (shit, or "they") are going to need to hear something very convincing as to why she can't work her scheduled shifts.
7 trips to Medellin and I haven't been back to a casa or strip club since trip one. I am sure they have total knockouts at some of these places, but all the bullshit you have to put up with? CBJ, lackluster service from servicing many clients in one day or just jaded from being in the game for so long, etc.
I stick with the freelancers. They don't work for anyone other than themselves, and I do not have to pay extra for GFE. If one of them refuses to do BBBJ, I send her home with taxi money and call another one over. If one of them comes over quoting ridiculous amounts of money, I send her home with taxi money and call another one over.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1604773]The links to the chicas you posted are nice, and I get that you hope to be able to make arrangements with them outside of their 9-5 puta job holed up in their apartment, but how realistic do you think that will be considering they have to clear everything through management ("Chulo", err, I mean "Boss")?
You're talking about taking one of his h0es out of rotation for a long length of time and he (shit, or "they") are going to need to hear something very convincing as to why she can't work her scheduled shifts.
7 trips to Medellin and I haven't been back to a casa or strip club since trip one. I am sure they have total knockouts at some of these places, but all the bullshit you have to put up with? CBJ, lackluster service from servicing many clients in one day or just jaded from being in the game for so long, etc.
I stick with the freelancers. They don't work for anyone other than themselves, and I do not have to pay extra for GFE. If one of them refuses to do BBBJ, I send her home with taxi money and call another one over. If one of them comes over quoting ridiculous amounts of money, I send her home with taxi money and call another one over.[/QUOTE]The aim of the report was not this vague speculation, forget about it.
The focus are on the basic facts, the quality of serivce, and the use of ED medications to prolong the lidibo capability.
Since they use photos that covers their faces, and sometimes false ones I have been positively surprised by three girls; Emely, Fernanda and Karol. They are 9's in facial beauty. Even their body looks a lot better in real life!
These girls charge fairly at least considering the beauty and quality of service. I strongly recommend them.
One who uses false photos or using all the tools available in Photoshop is Carolina [URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/carolina/carolina_chica_prepago.php[/URL].
Avoid!
Savepros; It would be interesting to know more about your way of getting all these freelancers at a fair price. My experience is that they vastly overestimates their marketvalue and stick to that illusion.
The pleasure of getting GFE is worth a lot, while arguing over prices in my home with barriogirls are on of the most embarrassing and moralwrecking experiences I can have.
Being a Brazil veteran, I am afraid the negotiation things now are the norm in Medellin.
Today, the girl at Abydos refuses the BBBJ at all cost, non negotiable, what amazes me is the DATY cost is 100 k. What the fuck.
Move on to Blue Room, the BBBJ is 100 k, DATY is only 50 k.
Only thing Comlobians have are boobs, big boobs, and I am a tit man. Brazilians are generally small to medium chest. Both Brazilians and Colombians are big round bubble asses.
I may have to take my mony to Rio.
[QUOTE=Ricker;1604266]Nothing has really changed amigo.
Some guys go with the flow, get lucky, get the chemestry going, and usually enjoy the ensuing goodies (BBJ, etc).
Other dudes just get the goodies in other ways, (I. E. Paying / Negotiating).
Both ways work, just one is a sure bet if that's what ya want.
I never have been a negotiator type. I like the fantasy of the real GFE without the negotiation.
If the little extras don't just don't come naturally, no big deal for me, I'm just off to the next affair.
Obviously nothing wrong with a negotiated tip for extra services, just not my thing.
So like I said, nothing has changed in that regard.
Have fun on your return![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1604773]7 trips to Medellin and I haven't been back to a casa or strip club since trip one. I am sure they have total knockouts at some of these places, but all the bullshit you have to put up with? CBJ, lackluster service from servicing many clients in one day or just jaded from being in the game for so long, etc.
I stick with the freelancers. They don't work for anyone other than themselves, and I do not have to pay extra for GFE. If one of them refuses to do BBBJ, I send her home with taxi money and call another one over. If one of them comes over quoting ridiculous amounts of money, I send her home with taxi money and call another one over.[/QUOTE]How did you come up with these freelancers in the first place? Ex-Mansion girls, their friends off Facebook, I know the drill and if BBBJ (I am guessing this is the GFE that is referenced here) is a must then I guess you have your system down. Sticking with regulars or favoritas of course guarantees good performance & resultsas well.
But I am guessing you are paying your freelancers at least 100-150 K plus taxis, another 20-40 K. How about the waiting? Most working girls are not punctual. And if you have to send one away, how quickly realistically can you get another to commit to a time and arrive in yet another taxi? At least another 2 hours of waiting, juggling calls, facebook & whatsapp?
If you are patient, show up earlier in the day, there are gems to be found in Centro and I don't mean just cabbing directly to New Life. There are a dozen other bargain casas with plenty of fresh girls for 30 K-65 K short time. On another board, there are field reports of some of these gems. With photos no less. From my standpoint, BBBJ is not a dealbreaker and I love the thrill of discovering the next Geraldine. If one casa doesn't have someone I like, the next casa is 2-10 mins walk away (in Centro). Of course, more & more bullshit is creeping into the scene like paying 2 K for the presentation if you don't session. All in all, a few casa runs per week should be part of the typical MDE mongering experience.
[QUOTE=Menteng;1604189]
When I lived in Medellin I visited many of the places (still) mentioned here and I have never had to negotiate in advance about the BBBJCIM. I finished 90% of the sessions that way. Of course I rewarded them afterwards.
[/QUOTE]That is how I typically roll as well. I'll tip if I think its merited.
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1604830]
Savepros; It would be interesting to know more about your way of getting all these freelancers at a fair price. My experience is that they vastly overestimates their marketvalue and stick to that illusion.
[/QUOTE]Almotu pretty much summed it up below:
[QUOTE=Almotu;1604867]How did you come up with these freelancers in the first place? Ex-Mansion girls, their friends off Facebook, I know the drill and if BBBJ (I am guessing this is the GFE that is referenced here) is a must then I guess you have your system down. Sticking with regulars or favoritas of course guarantees good performance & resultsas well.[/QUOTE]That's correct. Like pretty much everyone here, I started with a base (Mansion Chicas, Romance Latina, etc.), friended them on facebook, and branched out from there. I've been playing the fb game for so long that I have been able to find my own gems. A lot times the chicas are actively looking for you online and send you friend request.
But it is also a combination of:
-Learning a significant amount of Spanish to be able to hold an intelligent conversation.
-Patience (like putting in the work of communicating and flirting with chicas weeks before I arrive versus just showing up and hitting up a bunch of chicas cold turkey; figuring out which chicas are in the game, waiting for chicas to respond to you, etc.).
-Giving repeat business to chicas who give great service. Giving repeat sessions (and not burning your bridges) opens up the possibility of asking them to hook you up with other chicas (amigas, primas, hermanas, tias) that want to earn as well.
-Not being a chichipato! Buy the girl something to eat from time to time, share your alcohol with her, bring a gift. You can impress chicas without resorting to giving them more money. They want to have a good time just as much as you do.
And GFE means many different things to many different people amigo ;)
[QUOTE=Almotu;1604867]
But I am guessing you are paying your freelancers at least 100-150 K plus taxis, another 20-40 K. How about the waiting? Most working girls are not punctual. And if you have to send one away, how quickly realistically can you get another to commit to a time and arrive in yet another taxi? At least another 2 hours of waiting, juggling calls, facebook & whatsapp?
[/QUOTE]You'd be surprised bro. A lot of these chicas are sitting around without shit else to do. Some are in school during the day and will come over after class. Some may skip class entirely. I am good about setting my stuff up in advance (so that a chica can find a babysitter if need be), but if a chica has to cancel last minute I have not had any problems finding backups. Yes, traffic is a problem, and you will not have something like a 15 minute turn around, but it's not like you will be waiting all day long. I am usually able to have 4 different chicas visit me per day when I am there. Honestly, that is about all I can handle!
And I need the "waiting" time between chicas so that I can eat, clean up, maybe go to the store, take care of personal stuff, etc.
[QUOTE=Almotu;1604867]
If you are patient, show up earlier in the day, there are gems to be found in Centro and I don't mean just cabbing directly to New Life. There are a dozen other bargain casas with plenty of fresh girls for 30 K-65 K short time. On another board, there are field reports of some of these gems. With photos no less. From my standpoint, BBBJ is not a dealbreaker and I love the thrill of discovering the next Geraldine. If one casa doesn't have someone I like, the next casa is 2-10 mins walk away (in Centro). Of course, more & more bullshit is creeping into the scene like paying 2 K for the presentation if you don't session. All in all, a few casa runs per week should be part of the typical MDE mongering experience.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I am not knocking the casa experience. I just chose to go a different route. I don't like my sessions rushed. I like the relaxed environment of my apartment with music, drinks, (sometimes) food, and dancing. I would rather be in my apartment chatting on the couch with the chica I invite over as opposed to running from casa to casa looking at different presentations. The other problem I have is that if I find a gem in a casa, I do not want to have to wait until she gets off work or all the way until Sunday when she is off to see her again. With a freelancer I can ask her to come back the very next day.
I definitely would probably go casa running or strip club hopping in the future. I just choose not to at this time.
[QUOTE=Almotu;1604867]How did you come up with these freelancers in the first place? Ex-Mansion girls, their friends off Facebook, I know the drill and if BBBJ (I am guessing this is the GFE that is referenced here) is a must then I guess you have your system down. Sticking with regulars or favoritas of course guarantees good performance & resultsas well.
But I am guessing you are paying your freelancers at least 100-150 K plus taxis, another 20-40 K. How about the waiting? Most working girls are not punctual. And if you have to send one away, how quickly realistically can you get another to commit to a time and arrive in yet another taxi? At least another 2 hours of waiting, juggling calls, facebook & whatsapp?
If you are patient, show up earlier in the day, there are gems to be found in Centro and I don't mean just cabbing directly to New Life. There are a dozen other bargain casas with plenty of fresh girls for 30 K-65 K short time. On another board, there are field reports of some of these gems. With photos no less. From my standpoint, BBBJ is not a dealbreaker and I love the thrill of discovering the next Geraldine. If one casa doesn't have someone I like, the next casa is 2-10 mins walk away (in Centro). Of course, more & more bullshit is creeping into the scene like paying 2 K for the presentation if you don't session. All in all, a few casa runs per week should be part of the typical MDE mongering experience.[/QUOTE]These girls DREAM. They have heard that they can get +250 k and blaha prices for nothing, just if they are a little cute and nice ass.
These girls Facebook-prepagos and Cupid-girls that initiate a contact are webcamgirls; "ayudame con mi pagina web, solo $5". But they not accept a simple NO, but keep on their blaha-babble. Very disturbing. Both "freelancer" and "webcam" girls. I just HATE them.
The girls that are independent or actually independent dreamers have never had a nickel in their life that wasn't hard earned. Suddenly she hear about the 250 k, convince herself in a second that this is the standard rate, and that extranjeros pay this ridicoulus prices. When told that the Paisasdivinas price is 100 k-130 k, and these girls are professionals, they simply ignore the basic market facts and continue PESTERING another John. Very frustrating for both parties, but especially for the buyer, since they continue to pestering as much as they can, until one delete / block their contact.
For me personally it has been like this for 5 years. The professionals charge 50% or less of what the barriogirls think they can get.
One must understand that these girls come from the opposite side of the global community: You are rich and can travel and you know languages, you are aware of cultural differences, and hence, which is very easy fault to commit, assume that they are "aware" of the basic circumstances in the world. They DREAM while entering the prepago market in Medellin. They know nothing. That's why they are so aggressive. They have no idea and can not have since they are brought up on gaseosa. This might sound rasistic, but it is a fact. 50% of the population is estrato 1-2. They lag behind mentally 3-5 years mentally from a normal person from an advanced country, due to poor nutrition and will never have an IQ over 90 as an adult. Just take the US as an example, where circumstance are better, but the socialeconomical differences remains; here it even worse; these girls logic is very limitated. They do not understand agreements or anything that is serious, not in the way you understand it. They live day by day life. They are often totally undependable and it's a risk not worth taking inviting such a creature to your home or hotel.
It has been like this since Alonso de Ojeda 500 years ago. Conquistadores are considered superior. These girls are aggressive since they KNOW they are from a distinct inferior social class, from the other side of the global community. You are rich even though you are middleclass. Your monthly salary might be 5-20 times higher. A deal is never a deal with a person that lives under completly different circumstances. It is easy to forget, it is easy to treat people like they are you equal, but in the case of "independiente chica" one must simply abandon this humanistic behavoiur and be realistic.