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Can't believe you guys waste money on business class while traveling to Asia for cheap mongering? Save your ticket expenses and get double the amount of girls during your stay. Biz class is such a waste unless you are 120kg+, I mostly just watch a movie and sleep. And then a cutie wake me up and tell me to wake up cause I am the only one left as we landed 30 mins ago.
[QUOTE=Richo Stevens]Can't believe you guys waste money on business class while traveling to Asia for cheap mongering? Save your ticket expenses and get double the amount of girls during your stay. Biz class is such a waste unless you are 120kg+, I mostly just watch a movie and sleep. And then a cutie wake me up and tell me to wake up cause I am the only one left as we landed 30 mins ago.[/QUOTE]
Not all airlines and routes are the same. In some parts of the world and on some carriers, Biz Class is only a little higher then a full fare, can be achieved by usage of few airline miles in your airline of choice, and / or is often given free of charge as an automatic upgrade if you stick with one carrier and fly them often enough and have high enough status. So tell me why Biz Class is a waste?
For my routing and my airlines you'd have to be crazy not take Biz Class over coach. My last trip had me in BKK for 12 days and some other asian cities, totaled over 30,000 actual flight miles, and I had some automatic upgrades built into the routing. But the total ticket cost was 2,500 USD for coach and 2,570 USD for first class. Guess which one I picked?
My next assignment in two weeks takes me to five countries including two weeks in BKK and is over 40,000 miles and costed 4,100 USD but all in first class, coach class was 3,800 USD. Guess which one I picked?
I think many folks would pay that difference to fly up front over the back and I don't think it's a waste at all.
Ive been checking out different airlines and I noticed that thai airways only allows economy passengers one 44 lb bag and one 15lb carry on. This is insane. Is this common for trips to asia ?
Also some tickets from amsterdam to bangkok are way more than nyc to bangkok. I assume thats the euro coming into play or are flights just more costly leaving from europe?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ive been checking out different airlines and I noticed that thai airways only allows economy passengers one 44 lb bag and one 15lb carry on. This is insane. Is this common for trips to asia ?
Also some tickets from amsterdam to bangkok are way more than nyc to bangkok. I assume thats the euro coming into play or are flights just more costly leaving from europe?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
That's common for many foreign airlines, and some weigh your carry on too so be careful who you fly (Thai has never weighed my carry on however). US Legacy carriers allow the 50 to 70 lbs two pieces etc....
If you work, shop, or do recreational sports (scuba) it's just another reason to fly biz class as you get up to 80kg of luggage no matter the size. For me any extra weight charges vary from 8 USD to 18 USD a kg lately depending on the airline.
But most guys here on this site going to Thailand don't need much more then a change of underware and some not even that :)
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ive been checking out different airlines and I noticed that thai airways only allows economy passengers one 44 lb bag and one 15lb carry on. This is insane. Is this common for trips to asia ?
Also some tickets from amsterdam to bangkok are way more than nyc to bangkok. I assume thats the euro coming into play or are flights just more costly leaving from europe?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Just a side note, watch the contract of carriage, for example if you fly to Manila on Continental and you have a 12 hour layover to catch a Philippine airline or Thai flight over to BKK, you can check your two bags at 50 lbs (70 lbs each if you have status with Skyteam), and the forwarding airline HAS to take your bags if you can check them all the way through (less then a 24 hour layover in Manila) even if you are violating their 20 kg rule.
However on return, departure out of BKK, you are stuck with what that carrier out of BKK's rules are. So if their rules are 20 kg then that's it.
If you have airline status with Star or One World etc... then you get a higher weight litmit for those airlines also over the 20 kg for coach class.
Unless you are carrying diving or climbing gear, or professional computer setups for sales purposes, there is no reason to exceed the 20K + 7 KG carry on weight limitations, and over the course of the trip, you will be glad you did stay within those weight limits - especially if you want to take a domestic Thailand flight to Phuket, Samui, Chiang Mai, etc. Everywhere in Thailand, there are inexpensive places to have laundry done, so you really only need to take a week's worth of clothes. And you won't need any cold weather clothing either.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Ive been checking out different airlines and I noticed that thai airways only allows economy passengers one 44 lb bag and one 15lb carry on. This is insane. Is this common for trips to asia ?
Also some tickets from amsterdam to bangkok are way more than nyc to bangkok. I assume thats the euro coming into play or are flights just more costly leaving from europe?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you come from/go to the US these limits don't apply. In Asia overweight charges are not very high (100 Baht a Kg from BKK to HKG), and an excess of up to 5 Kg is almost always and up to 10 Kg many times ignored. Thai airways on trips to/from the US allow 2 Pieces with the normal US size restrictions and a weigh of 32 Kgs a piece. But they will be going to change that to 23 Kgs a piece.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Unless you are carrying diving or climbing gear, or professional computer setups for sales purposes, there is no reason to exceed the 20K + 7 KG carry on weight limitations, and over the course of the trip, you will be glad you did stay within those weight limits - especially if you want to take a domestic Thailand flight to Phuket, Samui, Chiang Mai, etc. Everywhere in Thailand, there are inexpensive places to have laundry done, so you really only need to take a week's worth of clothes. And you won't need any cold weather clothing either.[/QUOTE]
I can barley get by the 50lb rule on american carriers. I usually take only one bag of 50lbs and a fold up duffle bag for shopping. I would also be bringing photography equipment weighing more than 15 lbs. not counting my cell phone ipod etc. etc. Im not a two pair of underwear one shirt person.
Thai airways stated first class can bring up to 88 lbs. Thats still lower than what we complain about.
I did nwa/ luthansa to turkey and yes I remember the weight limit was the same as US airlines because I started out on nwa. Turkish airlines was 40 lbs.
I could book an american based carrier but then my flying time would go through the roof with connections etc.
Asia and brazil have always been complicated for me to plan. I hope I can overcome the obstacles. Im so used to laid back south america I forget about the rest of it.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]If you come from/go to the US these limits don't apply. In Asia overweight charges are not very high (100 Baht a Kg from BKK to HKG), and an excess of up to 5 Kg is almost always and up to 10 Kg many times ignored. Thai airways on trips to/from the US allow 2 Pieces with the normal US size restrictions and a weigh of 32 Kgs a piece. But they will be going to change that to 23 Kgs a piece.[/QUOTE]
I was on the thai airways website. What I saw listed was 44lbs one bag economy. I didnt see any pricing for excess so Im not sure I can pay if I wanted too.
I would like to take the non stop thai airways flight but not with those restrictions.
Packing light is a discipline many folks simply don't have. But it's one that is well worth developing, as tighter and tighter weight restrictions are certainly the wave of the future in air travel.
According to the Omaha World-Herald, the stepfather of the mall shooter in Omaha was vacationing in Thailand at the time.
Do you suppose he is one of us?
DB
Published Friday | December 7, 2007
Hawkins' stepfather, owner of rifle, was in Thailand Wednesday
BY LYNN SAFRANEK AND KARYN SPENCER
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITERS
[url]http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10203759[/url]
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I can barley get by the 50lb rule on american carriers. I usually take only one bag of 50lbs and a fold up duffle bag for shopping. I would also be bringing photography equipment weighing more than 15 lbs. not counting my cell phone ipod etc. etc. Im not a two pair of underwear one shirt person.
Thai airways stated first class can bring up to 88 lbs. Thats still lower than what we complain about.
I did nwa/ luthansa to turkey and yes I remember the weight limit was the same as US airlines because I started out on nwa. Turkish airlines was 40 lbs.
I could book an american based carrier but then my flying time would go through the roof with connections etc.
Asia and brazil have always been complicated for me to plan. I hope I can overcome the obstacles. Im so used to laid back south america I forget about the rest of it.[/QUOTE]
Thai isn't the cheapest but it is very nice service. Going from America on Thai all the way will get you the higher luggage. Going from America on Philippine Air will get you the higher luggage. If you switch carriers then that is where you have a problem. Even going other airlines through Hong Kong can get you the higher classification of luggage.
Don't let it put you off, it is easy to work out the routing. You can easily get the higher luggage limitations out of the mainland.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I was on the thai airways website. What I saw listed was 44lbs one bag economy. I didnt see any pricing for excess so Im not sure I can pay if I wanted too.
I would like to take the non stop thai airways flight but not with those restrictions.[/QUOTE]Once more, this does not apply to flights with origin/destination US. Call them. And the 44 lbs restrictions apply for all carriers with all destinations except the US. Some low cost carriers even only allow 15 Kgs.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Once more, this does not apply to flights with origin/destination US. Call them. And the 44 lbs restrictions apply for all carriers with all destinations except the US. Some low cost carriers even only allow 15 Kgs.[/QUOTE]
It's on their web site.
For travel To/from Canada and the U.S.A., the following regulations apply:
Passengers in all classes of service, from First to Economy, are allowed two pieces of luggage. The sum of the three dimensions (length + height + width) for each piece cannot exceed 158 cm. (62 inches) and the weight of each piece cannot exceed 32 kgs. (70 lbs).
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/Travel_Destination_Information/FAQs/Check_in_faqs.htm#How%20much%20luggage%20am%20I%20allowed%20to%20check?[/url]
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]It's on their web site.
For travel To/from Canada and the U.S.A., the following regulations apply:
Passengers in all classes of service, from First to Economy, are allowed two pieces of luggage. The sum of the three dimensions (length + height + width) for each piece cannot exceed 158 cm. (62 inches) and the weight of each piece cannot exceed 32 kgs. (70 lbs).
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/Travel_Destination_Information/FAQs/Check_in_faqs.htm#How%20much%20luggage%20am%20I%20allowed%20to%20check?[/url][/QUOTE]
I made an enquiry to Thai airlines last week to find out if I can get an extra piece for my gold membership. They said yes, and the weight limit is 23/32 Kg. When I asked what that means they said that the weight can be either 23 or 32 (Thai logic) at present, but as soon as IATA approves the new rule it will be reduced to 23 Kg.