Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Buckster23;2661022]I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).[/QUOTE]With the new crackdown (was more lax before) best solution is arrange it during her off time. Also a great idea to get a nice room outside the zona. The girl will appreciate that.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2661067]Tell her to come up after her shift then tell the waiter to F Off.[/QUOTE]Apparently she claims they take it out on the girl. Like if I told him to F off and she stayed. He would track how many hours she was out. Times the drinks cost. Then they'd charge her that amount effectively negating whatever I give her.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2660197]See this is the type of comment that will eventually get Zona Norte shut down. The conservatives or if someone wants to develop Zona Norte into condos will use this excuse. But Crime happens in every bedroom in every town everyday in every country. Not just Hong Kong bedrooms. I can tell you for certain more people get killed in church or schools than in brothels every year. Men have a tendency to be violent. Drunk men, in some cases have a tendency to be violent. This has nothing to do with HK.[/QUOTE]In terms of the homicide who knows what actually happened but lets say some crazy dude killed the girl. In no way could I see where the hotel would be responsible. Lets say they require ID's. Like some guy isn't just going to get a fake ID. How long it takes to kill someone? Like security could have done anything if they went around doing bedroom checks every 15 minutes? It's just absurd. There is a saying that goes "One of the hardest things in life is determining what you are and are not responsible for". This one is a no-brainer.

Now. How about the Las Vegas hotel during that country concert that the guy had time to barricade himself in the room. Some crazy guy could have pulled it off in probably one day but I bet now housekeeping needs to get into every room every day. It's Ludacris.

Just my. 02 worth.

G.

2 weeks ago a wingman stayed with a HK girl for 4 hours, nobody knocks. I checked on him at about 1 AM. He was still trying to screw the girl.

I know girls who went out to dinner with guys for a few hours, no mention of any penalty by the bar.

I think girls likely pull stupid club rules on new guys to make more money. Their mesero BFs would be just so happy to help.

[QUOTE=Buckster23;2661022]I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).

4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.

Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?

Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.[/QUOTE]If you're staying at Cascadas, best thing to do is to probably get her off shift (end of her shift or some other time). Don't know if you're aware but there have been a couple deaths of HK girls within the past couple of weeks, one or both of them being murdered by customers in Cascadas. I'd assume that's led to stricter enforcement of rules which might explain what happened to you here. Also possible the girl was using her explanation as an excuse to either not spend the night or for you to have to shell out more dough.

[QUOTE=Gregyyr;2661113]In terms of the homicide who knows what actually happened but lets say some crazy dude killed the girl. In no way could I see where the hotel would be responsible. Lets say they require ID's. Like some guy isn't just going to get a fake ID. How long it takes to kill someone? Like security could have done anything if they went around doing bedroom checks every 15 minutes? It's just absurd. There is a saying that goes "One of the hardest things in life is determining what you are and are not responsible for". This one is a no-brainer.
[/QUOTE]I'm thinking murders at those clubs tend to be spontaneous / impulsive, not pre-planned. Given that, IDs I think are a decent preventative measure (better than nothing at least). If a guy knows his ID is on file or at least has been checked, he'll nearly always think twice about committing any act of violence. Requiring IDs won't prevent ALL violence obviously (don't think it would've stopped that ex-Rutgers basketball player last year for example from murdering that girl at Adelitas) but I do think it would be at least somewhat effective.

[QUOTE=Gregyyr;2661113]
Now. How about the Las Vegas hotel during that country concert that the guy had time to barricade himself in the room. Some crazy guy could have pulled it off in probably one day but I bet now housekeeping needs to get into every room every day. It's Ludacris.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, the consequences of that incident irked me. I stayed in Vegas (Caesars) several months after this happened. Back then if you went even a day without housekeeping, security would knock on your door the next day and do a quick "welfare check" of your room to make sure everything was OK LOL. That was extremely annoying as I'm the type who nearly always declines housekeeping service. But since COVID they've done away with that and most Vegas hotels (and probably hotels across the country) have decreased housekeeping service (largely due to COVID concerns).

Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2661291]Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]Me three and I do care (more).

Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??

It would prevent no crimes and would cause a quick death of the ST rooms, Cascada and HK.

HK has you recorded by many HD security cameras in the club and in the hotel. Isn't that deterrence enough?

If you are well-known and well-loved by HK and its workers, no IDs are ever needed for any transaction. An ISG call sign will do!

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2661291]Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong and its hotel is a brothel. I don't think they should be taking any identification. Its just the type of stuff that can ruin your life and career one day. Sure the older guys who aren't getting married again and are retired don't care. But some guys go in their early 20's. Visiting a brothel is the perfect amo for cancel culture. They should just take a quick photo without mask. In fact every store, train bus in USA should require a photo without mask to enter due to the theft issues as theft is now legal In half the states.

I was at HK on Monday, took a girl up for a TLN but she must have been in the middle of her shift because the meseros started knocking after two hours. I would love to catch a girl at the end of her shift for a TLN but don't they check the girls IDs when they walk past the lobby at Cascadas?

Whatever the case, with increased room rates and increased control on the way the girls spend their time, it's clear to me the management at HK is starting to take full advantage of the near monopoly they have in the Zona.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2661293]Me three and I do care (more).

Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??[/QUOTE]If it was cartel related they could have killed her anywhere. They probably would not do it at HK.

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Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??[/QUOTE]The boyfriend of hers who was posting here recently posted a couple of days ago that she was "terrified of drugs". He came off as very credible to me so, based on that comment, I'd tend to believe this wasn't drug related. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion that she (per her boyfriend) texted her mother the room number and length of her sex work sessions as they occurred. Even as someone who frequents these places myself, if I were her parent I'd under no circumstances take that sort of role in my kid's sex work, though I understand it was intended to serve as some sort of security measure.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2661291]Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]This would be simple to implement and really no big imposition on clients. There needs to be some level of accountability.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2661369]The boyfriend of hers who was posting here recently posted a couple of days ago that she was "terrified of drugs". He came off as very credible to me so, based on that comment, I'd tend to believe this wasn't drug related. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion that she (per her boyfriend) texted her mother the room number and length of her sex work sessions as they occurred. Even as someone who frequents these places myself, if I were her parent I'd under no circumstances take that sort of role in my kid's sex work, though I understand it was intended to serve as some sort of security measure.[/QUOTE]Definitely not involved with drugs sales or usage. She was openly condescending to that world.

It's truly a tragic story given the outcome. Her mother went to work in the clubs when the alcoholic father died. She saw her mother go out and "save" the family. This became the obvious "shortcut" to success. Mom did it so can I. Her mother will have to bear that burden for the rest of her life. Do I blame the mother for her life choices? No. Am I resentful as hell? Yes.

It's also how she learned to never depend on a man. Broke my heart to hear her say things like "you can't eat love".