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It seems like COVID-19 will affect FKK clubs (and the rest of the world) for at least the next few months. Reduction in guests will lead to a reduction in girls, both of which will lead to a reduction in revenue for club owners. Presumably most clubs have fixed expenditures (building leases etc). I wonder if we will actually see some clubs go to the wall because of this.
US is looking to add all of Europe to L3 travel alert. Effectively, all of EU is considered to be off travel limits to US with UK excepted perhaps. That's pretty much bye bye for US mongers to EU for a while. Italians are already out, Asians are out. German locals can have the clubs all to themselves for a few days until perhaps the clubs are ordered to shut down. If Czechs banned all group meets of 100 or more, how can Germans allow Sharks with 100 girls and even more dudes?
As I said a little while ago, the key question is when will they reopen and how many girls will return to the clubs and to this profession?
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2433146]As I said a little while ago, the key question is when will they reopen and how many girls will return to the clubs and to this profession?[/QUOTE]Are you suggesting income options elsewhere will substantially improve in the wake of this pandemic?
Good point. And this might be for the better. I strongly favour 15-20 good to very good clubs (where the great girls can concentrate) over the current situation, where we are left with 5 good to very good clubs and 45 shitty to mediocre clubs.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2433139]It seems like COVID-19 will affect FKK clubs (and the rest of the world) for at least the next few months. Reduction in guests will lead to a reduction in girls, both of which will lead to a reduction in revenue for club owners. Presumably most clubs have fixed expenditures (building leases etc). I wonder if we will actually see some clubs go to the wall because of this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2433146]US is looking to add all of Europe to L3 travel alert. Effectively, all of EU is considered to be off travel limits to US with UK excepted perhaps. That's pretty much bye bye for US mongers to EU for a while. Italians are already out, Asians are out. German locals can have the clubs all to themselves for a few days until perhaps the clubs are ordered to shut down. If Czechs banned all group meets of 100 or more, how can Germans allow Sharks with 100 girls and even more dudes?
As I said a little while ago, the key question is when will they reopen and how many girls will return to the clubs and to this profession?[/QUOTE]From what I understand, advisory levels are just recommendations and not restrictions or limitations. Correct?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2433154]Are you suggesting income options elsewhere will substantially improve in the wake of this pandemic?[/QUOTE]No. The ones who have saved up for some years will likely squander much of that money or lose it to some useless BF, and the ones who have not yet saved much will live a miserable life in Romania because they have recently been used to a slightly better life. But what is also true is that when people are forced to endure a substantial break from one line of work and forced to find some other profession, even if it was meant to be a temporary break, not everyone will revert back to the original line of work. Other life factors might compel some of them to stay away from the original profession.
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2433166]From what I understand, advisory levels are just recommendations and not restrictions or limitations. Correct?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right although the immigration authorities would be within their rights to make life more difficult to returning people who ignored the advisory. However, I think most citizens would heed the advisory and postpone travel to the countries on the advisory list. I think this has been happening already but the advisory would accelerate such a process. Also, keep in mind the advisory to EU hasn't been issued yet but Trump is speaking tonight and will have something to say about it.
[QUOTE=Clodius1;2433060]So I was online today and saw a color coded map showing the spread of the virus. Eastern Europe still looked somewhat safe, with a single exception. Ro. I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence, but still.[/QUOTE]Some nations do not test or do not even has proper medical standard or setup to test, so infection rates are not accurate, I do think what is important is pay attention to death rates than infection rates.
However, it is wake of spread in Europe and now it is becoming to peak point, so I imagine it is like Asia a month ago is now in Europe.
In Japan, spread is limited now comparison to at the beginning and lock down is mild, so it is showing real sign of slow down. So I hope Europe will enter that slowdown phase in one month from now as most of Europe nations has same standard of medical facilities as in Japan, so I believe Europe and USA can slow it down.
What has happen to Italy is tragic, but I think it is in part to do with being Latin mentality and also Italy rely a lot economically on China, so that kind of pulled this trigger. I hope Italian will solve this problem soon and people in world will get back to how we used to live like before, I mean all this panic buying, not going out side, not touching people, beating up some Singaporean guy etc. For ignorant reasons etc. Are just insanity and stupidity of human, which shows during on the edge time like this, it is reminder that we are just another animal on this planet.
I hope FKK will be back to it was by summer because I do want to make another trip this year, on the sunny side up, I just went to Zurich to monger, so it was nice timing before I have to nest a bit due to virus. I mean I never even imagine obstacle that will intervene with my mongering would originate from Wuhan, China, I did not even know the name Wuhan till now, but Wuhan now is officially one of the most known city name of the world LOL.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2433146]US is looking to add all of Europe to L3 travel alert. Effectively, all of EU is considered to be off travel limits to US with UK excepted perhaps. That's pretty much bye bye for US mongers to EU for a while. Italians are already out, Asians are out. German locals can have the clubs all to themselves for a few days until perhaps the clubs are ordered to shut down. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2433166]From what I understand, advisory levels are just recommendations and not restrictions or limitations. Correct?[/QUOTE]
It's now official. Trump has just publically announced a 30-day travel ban for anyone coming from Europe (except UK) starting this Friday. That's an executive order. My understanding is that this ban only applies to foreign nationals or European citizens. That means if you're a US Resident who needs to come back after traveling to Europe within the next 30 days, you'll be able to come back in as usual. I guess if you want to travel to FKK land to monger for few days, you can come back as long as you're willing to take the Corona risk. LOL.
Harvey just got himself locked up for 23 years for just first sentencing. Many years more to come for his new accommodation in taxed backed free hotel.
I don't get why this guy just could not go for high end escort where they do actually provide you with better looking women than actresses and also aspiring actresses or there are many better high end escort in Europe or Eastern Europe for high roller well connected individual like Harvey. But he just decided to go for more forcible manner that got him locked up for life considering his age now.
He is 67, with Viagra, he could easily monger on in high end escort for connected individual around world for minimum 10 more years instead of going to jail by conducting his sexual appetites in illegal forcible manner.
I think it is to do with power happy got to his brain thinking he can get away with anything.
[QUOTE=SinglePro;2433228]It's now official. Trump has just publically announced a 30-day travel ban for anyone coming from Europe (except UK) starting this Friday. That's an executive order. My understanding is that this ban only applies to foreign nationals or European citizens. That means if you're a US Resident who needs to come back after traveling to Europe within the next 30 days, you'll be able to come back in as usual. I guess if you want to travel to FKK land to monger for few days, you can come back as long as you're willing to take the Corona risk. LOL.[/QUOTE]I read the ban was for all Schengen States. It also says that US peeps returning are at risk of quarantine when they arrive.
[QUOTE=SinglePro;2433228]It's now official. Trump has just publically announced a 30-day travel ban for anyone coming from Europe (except UK) starting this Friday. That's an executive order. My understanding is that this ban only applies to foreign nationals or European citizens. That means if you're a US Resident who needs to come back after traveling to Europe within the next 30 days, you'll be able to come back in as usual. I guess if you want to travel to FKK land to monger for few days, you can come back as long as you're willing to take the Corona risk. LOL.[/QUOTE]Unless UK bans travel from the Schengen countries as well, just fly Germany to UK then to USA if you want to get around this travel ban.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2433270]Unless UK bans travel from the Schengen countries as well, just fly Germany to UK then to USA if you want to get around this travel ban.[/QUOTE]And you think the US Government will not know that he flew from Germany to UK, with today's all interconnected airlines computer networks?
[QUOTE=SinglePro;2433228]It's now official. Trump has just publically announced a 30-day travel ban for anyone coming from Europe (except UK) starting this Friday. That's an executive order. My understanding is that this ban only applies to foreign nationals or European citizens. That means if you're a US Resident who needs to come back after traveling to Europe within the next 30 days, you'll be able to come back in as usual. I guess if you want to travel to FKK land to monger for few days, you can come back as long as you're willing to take the Corona risk. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and then when you are back to USA, don't go visit your grandpa, unless you want him to die.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2433270]Unless UK bans travel from the Schengen countries as well, just fly Germany to UK then to USA if you want to get around this travel ban.[/QUOTE]This an interesting point. But I don't see many mongers flocking to our amazing clubs here in the States / sarc. American ice bears will just have to hibernate in our hellhole over here until things calm down.