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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2664926]The real question is do I make enough to afford a HK girl? Everything else is just academic.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone makes enough money for them, that's why you rent them and then try a different one. They are all various levels of crazy and love the money. Even the rich guys have trouble, what luck would regular joe like me have. I am friendly but I take none of them serious.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2664923]She's one of the naturally pretty ones that doesn't need makeup. Probably earns more than the avg HK girl.[/QUOTE]Her name she went by before was Varuska. I nailed back in the 7th floor HK pandemic days. Very sexy body and a tight pussy. I never got a chance to repeat but I was her last week in HK with a client. I do agree she is naturally beautiful. She is from Hermosillo Sonora, same as my current girl. Many hotties from Sonora, must the be water.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2665014]$500 on weekends, $150 on weekdays. So a typical HK girl that works 5 days / week takes home $1,450/ week which is not bad at all.[/QUOTE]There is no way the average HK girl pulls down $1,450 a week. That's stratospheric money in Mexico. I've asked bar girls all over the world this question, just for kicks. Almost every one will give you the number of the very, very, very best day of their lives. But those unicorns are pretty scarce.
It doesn't take a lot of observation to see how much competition there is in the bars. It is, and always has been, a buyer's market. Most gringos don't quite understand that concept, but that's a discussion for another day. A girl's earning potential, if she's pretty, is very high when she starts, but it diminishes rapidly as so many gringo horndogs are always after the next FOB. So, a few of the hottest ones are consistently busy, for a short amount of time. But many times a girl makes almost nothing in a night. Averaged out, sure, it's better than a fabrica. But the working conditions are pretty brutal, their shelf life is very limited, and the job literally sucks the soul out of most of them. Every woman in Tijuana knows where the ZN is. But few will choose to work there. The money's relatively good, but it's not that good.
[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2665139]Her name she went by before was Varuska. I nailed back in the 7th floor HK pandemic days. Very sexy body and a tight pussy. I never got a chance to repeat but I was her last week in HK with a client. I do agree she is naturally beautiful. She is from Hermosillo Sonora, same as my current girl. Many hotties from Sonora, must the be water.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. There are beautiful chicas everywhere in Mexico but I think Sonora is tops if you're talking the 1%. I banged out the chica below a couple dozen times in Nogales. Her face is even better than her perfect flakita body. Sonora is about as far North as you can go and it's not a melting pot (especially Nogales, which is much smaller than Hermosillo and lacks the same employment opportunities) with an influx of shorter darker Mexicans from Puebla, Chiapas or other places in the interior and far South. The people there are much taller and I've seen plenty who could pass for a John Smith or Sarah Jones.
[QUOTE=BigMagick;2664705]Does anyone know how much the average Bar girl at HK makes? I live with a few of them and could ask but in the past they beat around the Bush and give me vague answers. Usually that its not enough.
I know it varies wildly depending on the girls looks and ambition and just luck as well. I hear everything from.
Some nights no one takes them upstairs to making 500-1000 $ a night.[/QUOTE]Might not be a truly answerable question given how widely this varies. Varies by the factors you mention as well as probably how many days / week the girls choose to work, shifts they typically work (day vs. Night), and for many months out of the year they choose to spend in Tijuana vs. Their home elsewhere in Mexico. You might have girls you'd rate a 9-10, but are lazy and don't make as much $$$ as you might think while some girls you'd rate a 5-6 looks-wise but have an A+ hustle with guys.
It's like asking how much the average American stripper makes a night / year. Nearly impossible to quantify given all the variances.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2665157]There is no way the average HK girl pulls down $1,450 a week. That's stratospheric money in Mexico. I've asked bar girls all over the world this question, just for kicks. Almost every one will give you the number of the very, very, very best day of their lives. But those unicorns are pretty scarce.
It doesn't take a lot of observation to see how much competition there is in the bars. It is, and always has been, a buyer's market. Most gringos don't quite understand that concept, but that's a discussion for another day. A girl's earning potential, if she's pretty, is very high when she starts, but it diminishes rapidly as so many gringo horndogs are always after the next FOB. So, a few of the hottest ones are consistently busy, for a short amount of time. But many times a girl makes almost nothing in a night. Averaged out, sure, it's better than a fabrica. But the working conditions are pretty brutal, their shelf life is very limited, and the job literally sucks the soul out of most of them. Every woman in Tijuana knows where the ZN is. But few will choose to work there. The money's relatively good, but it's not that good.[/QUOTE]I agree, if it were full time work that's 52*1,450 = $75,400/ year. I follow a few of the above avg looking ones on Instagram and they sure as hell ain't living like they earn $75 k / year in Mexico. They vacation in cabos and Cancun and aren't staying at the luxury resorts. I think a more realistic figure is $1000/ week, average monthly income in Tijuana is $1100/ month.
[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2665123]I knew this girl named Tesla, a light skinned very pretty gal from Hermosillo Sonora. She went back to back Arriba's during her 9 hour shift. I never saw her in the club after I fucked her and I was usually her first of the night. So it was safe to say she made about $1000 or more a night. Last time we spoke she told me a guy "retired" her but that she still "missed the money". There are some that don't make shit for money like my other friend Romy, who told me she made 12 dollars. Only they know how much they really make. One last girl complained to me and cried that one of her clients stole $1800 dlls from her and her Iphone. Takes a real pos to steal from a working girl.[/QUOTE]She's probably the outlier that skews the average. I see a lot of girls just sitting around bored with no customers. I also don't really see a ton of guys taking them upstairs, but I only have been going on Mondays and Tuesdays.
We all know we can touch a girls ass for $1 in the club. But how do maximize that touch time for $1.
One trick I picked up this trip. When a girl approaches you and initiates dialog and you find her attractive.
Then that is your license to engage in a short conversation (name, where she she is from, rates, etc) as you are feeling her body / ass and tits. And then you give her a $1 on closing and she leaves happy with a smile. Everyone wins.
Hello,
1st time poster. Long time lurker. I have minor international punting experience visiting a few FKKs years ago, Top Damas a decade ago in Barca and disappointing Nogo and Puerto Puensco MX ventures decades ago. I'm tiring of the local AAMPS and ready to hit up Tijuana after this sex COVID prision. I'd go to Germany, but the FKKs still seem to be a shadow of old and Colombia seems too sketchy for me. Asia doesn't appeal to me.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy? But I need to drain my balls up to 5 times a day. Understanding this, I'll be less picky of looks and availability is the best ability. Not looking for street action due to safety and the outside chance of an underage girl.
I've read on the escort pages that they explicitly do NOT go to Zona Norte hotels. So is the best strategy to have a hotel just outside the Zona to get the escorts delivered and hit up Hong Kong day time? I've did a little recon and Good Girls & Musas seem to deliver. I'm not going to deal with Facebook or Tinder chicks. If I wanted to deal with that, I'd work on hard to get pussy at home that will be much more expensive and I don't really want to leave a digital trail.
I'm temped by the HKMexpress transportation with a VIP card like Oosik posted if HK can consistently provide constant action in exchange for you committing there. I don't care about the food or booze. A little mota (from San Diego) and mucho easy pussy budgeting around $500 per day.
I promise to pay it back and report on findings.
[QUOTE=HardRooster;2665737]Hello,
1st time poster. Long time lurker. I have minor international punting experience visiting a few FKKs years ago, Top Damas a decade ago in Barca and disappointing Nogo and Puerto Puensco MX ventures decades ago. I'm tiring of the local AAMPS and ready to hit up Tijuana after this sex COVID prision. I'd go to Germany, but the FKKs still seem to be a shadow of old and Colombia seems too sketchy for me. Asia doesn't appeal to me.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy?.[/QUOTE]$500/ day for just sex? HK girls charge $100/30 min, so for 5 pops that's $500, unless you can pop more than once in a 30 min window. If you book an overnight room at hotel Cascadas then you don't need to pay the $30ST rates, just take them to your room. If you're not looking for the hottest chicas then stick with the escort agencies or take girls from tropical to
Cascadas, I believe they go for less than HK.
[QUOTE=HardRooster;2665737]Hello,
1st time poster. Long time lurker. I have minor international punting experience visiting a few FKKs years ago, Top Damas a decade ago in Barca and disappointing Nogo and Puerto Puensco MX ventures decades ago. I'm tiring of the local AAMPS and ready to hit up Tijuana after this sex COVID prision. I'd go to Germany, but the FKKs still seem to be a shadow of old and Colombia seems too sketchy for me. Asia doesn't appeal to me.
The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy? But I need to drain my balls up to 5 times a day. Understanding this, I'll be less picky of looks and availability is the best ability. Not looking for street action due to safety and the outside chance of an underage girl.
I've read on the escort pages that they explicitly do NOT go to Zona Norte hotels. So is the best strategy to have a hotel just outside the Zona to get the escorts delivered and hit up Hong Kong day time? I've did a little recon and Good Girls & Musas seem to deliver. I'm not going to deal with Facebook or Tinder chicks. If I wanted to deal with that, I'd work on hard to get pussy at home that will be much more expensive and I don't really want to leave a digital trail..[/QUOTE]$500 a day will not be 5 HK girls even if you have other money for expenses like food hotel drinks. The entire HK experience is constant tipping everyone. Your going to need to buy girls drinks at 10 dollars to see if they are going to be duds in the room. You may have to buy 4 girls a drink to find a acceptable one. If you don't pay for extras for that 100 bucks you will not get the type of sex you expected to get. In many cases anyway. Guys who rate a 7 or 8 or above in looks probably get these extra things for free though. If you rent a room in HK you just need to pay 3 dollars per girl, 1 dollar tip to robe guy, desk guy, and your room if you want clean sheets and clean towels.
[QUOTE=HardRooster;2665737]The easiest option seems to be to book Cascadas and frequent Hong Kong. Is this effectively a vertical operation with girl to room or is there a backroom you take the chica to not your room? I've read there's a $30 room fee, but is this waived if you're staying at the hotel? I'm going solo so safety is a minor concern in the Zona Norte (shouldn't it be "Norta" with all the pussy? But I need to drain my balls up to 5 times a day. Understanding this, I'll be less picky of looks and availability is the best ability. Not looking for street action due to safety and the outside chance of an underage girl.[/QUOTE]If you are staying at Cascadas then there is no room fee if you bring girls to the room. They can be from street or the club.
Streetgirl IDs are checked when they enter hotel. So they will not be under age. Also most of them are mothers and are 20+.
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2665729]We all know we can touch a girls ass for $1 in the club. But how do maximize that touch time for $1.
One trick I picked up this trip. When a girl approaches you and initiates dialog and you find her attractive.
Then that is your license to engage in a short conversation (name, where she she is from, rates, etc) as you are feeling her body / ass and tits. And then you give her a $1 on closing and she leaves happy with a smile. Everyone wins.[/QUOTE]Yes guys should be informed to not touch a girl for a second if you don't have cash to tip. It will get confrontational. I saw a dude slap a girl in ass once and he wouldn't tip. Once I barely touched a girl and then realized I had no change. I tried to give her 4 quarters haha did not go well. Probably the best use of 1 dollar is to finger the girls on the whip cream stages.
Last Wednesday night and most of Friday I aw this big spender at the club.
He is fat / obese guy with glasses.
He gets all 4 benches in the area between two stages at front of club and has about 8 girls around him and hanging around that seating area. All are drinking and snacking. The tables are covered with snacks.
He often walks to gals and showers between $20 - multiple hundred dollar bills on each gal he likes on stage.
Friday he walked to 2nd floor and made it rain what I thought was $500 on a blonde - She later told me it was $800.
Sometimes he even has the mesmeros do the stuffing of dollar bills on gals.
And a lot of the time there is at least one HK club manager. Giving him that VIP attention.
Saw the same guy in my last trip too. Though he was much more generous in this trip.
If I didn't see it with my own eyes I would not believe it.
CB.
Tesla also mentioned she made up to $500 on busy weekends, going arriba back to back. 5 to 7 arribas in their shift for the most popular girls seem realistic. Even if they are picked up back to back, they still have to spend time walking to the hotel, clean up, eat, drink, bullshit with their friends, may be taking a few hits. Then week nights they may not make any or very little money.
There may be 2 or 3 super hot girls any night. The rest and quite a few actually make no or very little money. I met a few attractive students from Ensenada who could not make enough money in HK to cover transportation and rooms in Tijuana. Averaged out with slow week nights, the hottest girls probably make about $300 a night, over 100 working nights a year. That would give them $30 K a year. The spread of average nightly incomes goes from $0 to $300 with the median at about $60-70. Well, I am not a CPA working for big accounting firms with billionaire clients, so my figures may be full of shit hehe.
One guy took Tesla to the hotel with his Gopro device hidden. She found it, conveniently after getting her money, and got very upset, calling in security. Security guys collared and ejected from the hotel. They put enough fear into him that he quickly crossed the border back to US for safety hehe.
Be careful with sob stories from putas. They have a lot of practice making up sob stories to drain guys' wallets. Near Christmas holiday, a hot and fun HK girl texted me that the cleaning women stole her Christmas tree and she needed replacement, likely story hehe. The only tree she ever knew and loved was the marijuana species. She also texted the same appeal to my wingmen.