Kyiv

[QUOTE=AntonioMontana;1800476]Hi,

I was in Kiev for almost a week.... So once again: I imagine that this was very extremely nice monger destination some years ago. Lots of very sexy girls looking for interesting contacts with weastern-european man. But now they are gone or are disappointed. Its over there. Time over. Game over. Nothing left, only dessert. Not worth going there.[/QUOTE]There is no doubt how bad Kiev these but can you give me a time line to what days and times you send to these clubs? Night life is primarily limited to Fri- Sat. Wed used to be ladies night at Shooters but things many have changed.

Surprised you did not try places like the D'Lux, Indigo or Skybar. Problems with lot of these places they have a mainly a regular crowd and mixed in with some working girls and it not easy spotting who is who sometimes.

Will be next week in Kiev. I will try some outcall services and give feedback on my results, if I manage to visit dlux, indigo or skybar, I will provide my impression. If somebody has some up to date and verified information on numbers of classified adds, please post.

Happy Hunting,

LS

[QUOTE=YellowPaul;1800692]There is no doubt how bad Kiev these but can you give me a time line to what days and times you send to these clubs? Night life is primarily limited to Fri- Sat. Wed used to be ladies night at Shooters but things many have changed.

Surprised you did not try places like the D'Lux, Indigo or Skybar. Problems with lot of these places they have a mainly a regular crowd and mixed in with some working girls and it not easy spotting who is who sometimes.[/QUOTE]As I said I was there over weekend during times where there should be party.

At Leoas:

You are one of those I was expecting.

[QUOTE=Leoas;1800692]
"The country is in a crisis, and actually at war. So, even though you do not see it in Kiev, people are well aware.

You will see a lot of young ladies at cafes and small bistros.

Money free mongering takes some effort). ".[/QUOTE]First of all I know that the country is on war. And you can very very feel it. There aren't so much young ladies in the cafes and small bistros left. Especially for such a large city you get more in european cafes and bistros. Furthermore these are not 8/10 9/10 babes. I can get average girls in bistros cafes here in western-europe.

Yeah have fun mongering there and paying 200 USD. Of course you get the offers, but no thanks, for 200 USD I get an absolute high class service here in western-europe.

I did not exaggerate and I did not want to damage the Ukraine.

I just wanted to show you that its not worth going there. For a high price (ticket + hotel + 100-200 USD) you get a (hopefully) good or very good experience. But for that amount you can get quite a lot in other european cities. Just look at FKK in Germany.

Furthermore I was very disappointed about the regular girls there. So as I said I was not looking for a 100-200 USD girl I just wanted to talk to some local average girls. But forget it, when they notice that you are a foreigner no chance to get on a normal level with them. They just see the dollars. But ok, I can understand it.

Good look and have fun! I wish you a better experience than I had.

Oh and you say the*Lux and its difficult to see who is working girl or not:

At the*Lux every girl is working or will work for you. So no difficulties with that. I discussed with locals where to go and that's why I decided against the*Lux, because I wanted to have such a mixed audience and not solely working girls.

[QUOTE=AntonioMontana;1801082]Oh and you say the*Lux and its difficult to see who is working girl or not:

At the*Lux every girl is working or will work for you. So no difficulties with that. I discussed with locals where to go and that's why I decided against the*Lux, because I wanted to have such a mixed audience and not solely working girls.[/QUOTE]I do not know. Maybe you just got used to the sex tourism in poor Asian countries. Where life is cheap and always summer and warm weather. Where life itself is cheap because of the climate. And sex working women just are crowds in the streets as a cow or a sheep.))) But Ukraine is not Asia. This cold expensive country. About the fact that all the sexy girls went to me ridiculous to read it. Such nonsense can write only European.)) you know how hard it is to get a Schengen visa for Ukrainians? Especially now. It's just funny to read. You use online dating sites or Facebook or VKontakte? There are hundreds of thousands of students.

[QUOTE=Leoas;1800674]At AntonioMontana,

I know that the board is designed to write opinions. But I do not think that exaggerations help anybody.

I am sorry you are disappointed about your trip. But you make it sound that the whole youth of Ukraine is non existent and all girls went of marrying Turks.

That's kind of big generalization.

To avoid being ripped off, pre-book a taxi service.

E. g. Web happygotaxi 25 euros fix from or to airport.

Reliable and with no headache.

The rates you got, with 300-400 UAH are local rates, so not sure why you are complaining.

In Rome, you will pay double as tourist as well.

The country is in a crisis, and actually at war. So, even though you do not see it in Kiev, people are well aware.

You will see a lot of young ladies at cafes and small bistros.

Money free mongering takes some effort).

Happy hunting.

LS[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you. This post of Montana show everything you don't need to do in Kiev.

That Kiev nightlife is lacking has been written 10000 of times. Kiev is for street work, meeting girl during date creating a base. Kiev is for those who have time and.

It needs lot of time to understand the mechanism. I was in September, compared to other time was not good from a scoring point, but I create a base of 6 8 girls, good quality, that I will meet.

Again now in November.

The lucky part of the post of Montana is it will discourage weekender and those who look for cheap paying to go Kiev, and that will only improve the situation, considering the low gryvna.

[QUOTE=AntonioMontana;1801080]As I said I was there over weekend during times where there should be party.

At Leoas:

You are one of those I was expecting.

First of all I know that the country is on war. And you can very very feel it. There aren't so much young ladies in the cafes and small bistros left. Especially for such a large city you get more in european cafes and bistros. Furthermore these are not 8/10 9/10 babes. I can get average girls in bistros cafes here in western-europe.

Yeah have fun mongering there and paying 200 USD. Of course you get the offers, but no thanks, for 200 USD I get an absolute high class service here in western-europe.

I did not exaggerate and I did not want to damage the Ukraine.

I just wanted to show you that its not worth going there. For a high price (ticket + hotel + 100-200 USD) you get a (hopefully) good or very good experience. But for that amount you can get quite a lot in other european cities. Just look at FKK in Germany.

Furthermore I was very disappointed about the regular girls there. So as I said I was not looking for a 100-200 USD girl I just wanted to talk to some local average girls. But forget it, when they notice that you are a foreigner no chance to get on a normal level with them. They just see the dollars. But ok, I can understand it.

Good look and have fun! I wish you a better experience than I had.[/QUOTE]You miserably failed and now talk absolute statement.

Kiev is full and easy to meet a lot of interesting girl everywhere. 4 millions people majority beautiful girl.

Clearly you went only club, as said club situation is dead now, especially November, especially not talking any russian, especially for a weekend. What you expect? Girl in k res begging you talking with them?

I have more than 270 days in Kiev and still I can't say I know people there.

You should have gone to walk day stop girl in street commercial. Create a base for other trip. In a weekend in Kiev you only PAY, no way you can meet those girl you wanted me.

A lot of girl have left the country, but I repeat 4 million people and more now, there are pussy for all the western europe in Kiev, so yours are only excuse of who has failed, thought to fuck many girl and went home with dick in hand.

Personally I hope less tourist come in Kiev in the future,. It will be great, especially weekenders.

[QUOTE=Leoas;1800674]At AntonioMontana,

I know that the board is designed to write opinions. But I do not think that exaggerations help anybody.

I am sorry you are disappointed about your trip. But you make it sound that the whole youth of Ukraine is non existent and all girls went of marrying Turks.

That's kind of big generalization.

To avoid being ripped off, pre-book a taxi service.

E. g. Web happygotaxi 25 euros fix from or to airport.

Reliable and with no headache.

The rates you got, with 300-400 UAH are local rates, so not sure why you are complaining.

In Rome, you will pay double as tourist as well.

The country is in a crisis, and actually at war. So, even though you do not see it in Kiev, people are well aware.

You will see a lot of young ladies at cafes and small bistros.

Money free mongering takes some effort).

Happy hunting.

LS[/QUOTE]If you call taxi using Uklon, you pay 250 Gryvna from Borispol.

[QUOTE=Leoas;1800674]At AntonioMontana,

I know that the board is designed to write opinions. But I do not think that exaggerations help anybody.

I am sorry you are disappointed about your trip. But you make it sound that the whole youth of Ukraine is non existent and all girls went of marrying Turks.

That's kind of big generalization.

To avoid being ripped off, pre-book a taxi service.

E. g. Web happygotaxi 25 euros fix from or to airport.

Reliable and with no headache.

The rates you got, with 300-400 UAH are local rates, so not sure why you are complaining.

In Rome, you will pay double as tourist as well.

The country is in a crisis, and actually at war. So, even though you do not see it in Kiev, people are well aware.

You will see a lot of young ladies at cafes and small bistros.

Money free mongering takes some effort).

Happy hunting.

LS[/QUOTE]Kiev is full of girl. If somebody goes there and not score for me is ok, it can happen. If he not talk with any girl or not find interesting situation. Ii begin doubting. If he not see lot of girls. He has some problems. In western europe quality of girl is outrageous bot comparable, and in addition in Kiev if you look for normal looking girl it's easy to have a fuck in 2 3 meeting or less, in europe even ugly girl have attitude of top models. Kiev is to be lived at least 2 3 weeks a time, in a weekend you can only pay for sex.

I do not understand why you are so hard. This girl in Kharkov (Mamba. Ru) took 500 hryvnia (I can speak in Russian). But it is not Kiev.

[URL]http://vk.com/alobova2015[/URL]

In general, a good girl, obedient, tried to do everything as you say, no complaints. Made a good blowjob, she offered to cum in mouth. Girth pussy tight, inside nice. Licks all around the penis. Great licks and sucks balls. First time rigidly fucked her in doggy style in pussy. Later I tried in the ass. She said that she was a little hurt. But then I slapped the entire depth of the hard and fast. I do not know, she liked it or not. But she was docile and obedient. Even a little moan (moaning in pain can? It looks 22-23 years. Student girl. A little strange girl. She said, -But you can not fool me with money? Probably someone has not paid her the money. (Local guys in Ukraine sometimes do that). A walk with her around the city, went into a cafe. Nice girl but a little shy and closed. It is working in sex when the island needs the money. Good nice ukrainian 7/10 girl, not top-model but no bad.

We need more reviews like this. Contact details, report on the experience and location, photos, price. All the rest is waffle.

[QUOTE=Tomek123;1801318]I do not understand why you are so hard. This girl in Kharkov (Mamba. Ru) took 500 hryvnia (I can speak in russian). But it is not Kiev

[URL]http://vk.com/alobova2015[/URL]

In general, a good girl, obedient, tried to do everything as you say, no complaints. Made a good blowjob, she offered to cum in mouth. Girth pussy tight, inside nice. Licks all around the penis. Great licks and sucks balls. First time rigidly fucked her in doggy style in pussy. Later I tried in the ass. She said that she was a little hurt. But then I slapped the entire depth of the hard and fast. I do not know, she liked it or not. But she was docile and obedient. Even a little moan (moaning in pain can? It looks 22-23 years. Student girl. A little strange girl. She said, -But you can not fool me with money? Probably someone has not paid her the money. (Local guys in Ukraine sometimes do that). A walk with her around the city, went into a cafe. Nice girl but a little shy and closed. It is working in sex when the island needs the money. Good nice ukrainian 7/10 girl, not top-model but no bad.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the hint with Uklon Taxi.

BR.

LS

Interesting Formula. In all of my travels, it almost appears to be true in a large majority of countries. Except on my last trip to Kiev. I missed a connecting flight in Germany, ended up taking the train to the center of Frankfurt. I found Mihaela, a tiny blonde spinner from Romania in the Love Haus at 44 Elbenstrasse. She did everything covered for 20 euros. It was so good that after lunch, I went back for another round but unfortunately her door was closed. So I visited her neighbor, another blonde from Romania who had a slightly bigger build for another 20 euros. I have never gotten a haircut in Kiev but I imagine it would be more expensive just like the girls if you do not speak the language. All of this leads me to my next question. Any idea where I can get a haircut in Germany next timefor 2 euros? Danke Schöand.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1794408]The simple formula of (multiplying the cost of a hair cut by Ten) to get the price of sex can be applied to get to get the price of sex in Kiev.

In Kiev it costs 99 Uah to get a standard hair cut in a expat area of Kiev.

" The price of Standard men's haircut in expat area of the city in Kiev is 99₴" . Sex = about UAH 1000.

[URL]https://www.expatistan.com/price/men-haircut/kiev[/URL]

It proves the formula by the Author of the book " Ten times the price of a Hair cut" to be correct, Agricultural economist Will L be Bogarde.

Two things in Life have proved to be invariably true, the price of an ounce of gold has been always been the price of a good suite more or less, and the (Price Of a Good Fuck) is always (Ten Times) the Price of a Hair cut.

This goes back to Roman, Greek and even Egyptian times.

This Truth is known as the unviversal Copulation Constant, or if you happen to be an Economist The Shadow Price Of Pussy.[/QUOTE]

So many terrible trip reports recently in Kiev. I imagine that its often similar to reading restaurant reviews, people often only comment when the service is bad but don't write anything when the food & the service are great. I was in Kiev recently & yes things have changed. It may never be what it once was but I assure you that its still better than any place worth visiting in the states. If you want easy, go to Germany. Kiev is for hunters & the girls are not throwing themselves at you like in the days of old but I like a challenge & have been rewarded on many occasions. As for places visited, I visited the Budda Bar on a Thursday night & it was empty. It was after midnight so after checking out the empty bar, quickly made a beeline for the exit & went to the Lux. It was busy, however mostly students on a Thursday night, weekends bring out a slightly older & sophisticated crowd. I didn't notice any working girls at the Lux, however this was on a Thursday night. I approached a few attractive girls & offered to buy them a drink but they declined & I clearly got the vibe they were not interested in anything more. It was getting late, so I decided to visit the infamous Rio. Entry was 200 uah & private dances started at 400 uah for 2 songs. Some of you may think, its a waste to spend 400 uah on a private dance. However, its often money well spent if you can find a girl that you click with & you can get a good idea of what kind of chemistry you may have for later. Got an amazing dance from a brunette named Asya & from a brunette spinner named Tina. I imagine both of these girls would be very fun to spend some time with. However it was very late, almost too late for take-out at this point so I called it a night. I stopped by a few of the salons near Kreschatyk but the addresses have changed. I'm not sure if the new police closed the old salons near Arena City & Baseina Street. You would never find these salons without the help of a local taxi driver. However, be forewarned that arriving to any of these salons with a taxi driver will get you an inflated price for the girls. Usually they quote $100 or more for one hour, (taxi driver is getting his cut) but I returned a day later & the price was now 1500 uah. Unfortunately I didn't find any of the girls working to my liking. The trip wasn't a bust however. I met a cam girl off the website MyFreeCams one day & brought her back to my hotel room. She was fun, 20 yr old blonde university student, cost was $100. She stayed two hours but then tried to get me to take her shopping later but I declined. The following day. I imported another girl from Dnepropetrovsk who also works as a cam girl on the MFC website. She stayed with me for two nights, truly beautiful girl. Complete GFE, never asked me for any $ but I gave her a few gifts. I was sad to see her go because its girls like this, that keep me coming back time & time again.

[QUOTE=Kobebryant2000;1802021]So many terrible trip reports recently in Kiev. I imagine that its often similar to reading restaurant reviews, people often only comment when the service is bad but don't write anything when the food & the service are great. I was in Kiev recently & yes things have changed. It may never be what it once was but I assure you that its still better than any place worth visiting in the states. If you want easy, go to Germany. Kiev is for hunters & the girls are not throwing themselves at you like in the days of old but I like a challenge & have been rewarded on many occasions. As for places visited, I visited the Budda Bar on a Thursday night & it was empty. It was after midnight so after checking out the empty bar, quickly made a beeline for the exit & went to the Lux. It was busy, however mostly students on a Thursday night, weekends bring out a slightly older & sophisticated crowd. I didn't notice any working girls at the Lux, however this was on a Thursday night. I approached a few attractive girls & offered to buy them a drink but they declined & I clearly got the vibe they were not interested in anything more. It was getting late, so I decided to visit the infamous Rio. Entry was 200 uah & private dances started at 400 uah for 2 songs. Some of you may think, its a waste to spend 400 uah on a private dance. However, its often money well spent if you can find a girl that you click with & you can get a good idea of what kind of chemistry you may have for later. Got an amazing dance from a brunette named Asya & from a brunette spinner named Tina. I imagine both of these girls would be very fun to spend some time with. However it was very late, almost too late for take-out at this point so I called it a night. I stopped by a few of the salons near Kreschatyk but the addresses have changed. I'm not sure if the new police closed the old salons near Arena City & Baseina Street. You would never find these salons without the help of a local taxi driver. However, be forewarned that arriving to any of these salons with a taxi driver will get you an inflated price for the girls. Usually they quote $100 or more for one hour, (taxi driver is getting his cut) but I returned a day later & the price was now 1500 uah. Unfortunately I didn't find any of the girls working to my liking. The trip wasn't a bust however. I met a cam girl off the website MyFreeCams one day & brought her back to my hotel room. She was fun, 20 yr old blonde university student, cost was $100. She stayed two hours but then tried to get me to take her shopping later but I declined. The following day. I imported another girl from Dnepropetrovsk who also works as a cam girl on the MFC website. She stayed with me for two nights, truly beautiful girl. Complete GFE, never asked me for any $ but I gave her a few gifts. I was sad to see her go because its girls like this, that keep me coming back time & time again.[/QUOTE]What is this: [URL]www.myfreecams.com[/URL]?

Are all these girls in Ukraine?

You can video chat for free? No way! And see them in person for p4 p?