American Politics

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2936512][URL]https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/[/URL]

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?[/QUOTE]

Please get back to me, when this tired, 9-year old and 2015 [b]"alleged scandal"[/b], blatant hearsay, innuendo and unverified information, in your article becomes factual news and not just another hack and hatchet-job, to throw against the wall and see what sticks, against the Harris/Walz campaign.

Can you provide any new, recent or UPDATED information w/r to your "baby butcher" cabal? Other than a news article that is attempting to link the [b]"alleged scandal"[/b] back in 2015, with Veep Harris who just happen to be in office?

By all accounts, it sounds a bit like a Senator Katie Britt's SOTU response meme? I mean, sure Biden (in this case Harris) was in office at the time, but WTF?

BTW, I know how you just love to throw around this recycled winger slogan from 2015 and use the term interchangeably with [i][b]"killing"[/b][/i], like a winger with an AR-15 magazines on a shooting spree, but when does your so called [i][b]"baby butchering"[/b][/i] start and end? At child trafficking? Pizzagate?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2936447]

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.[/QUOTE]Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you.

Trump has Truth Social which is worth billions and hotels ETC. He does not need to be president to make money. Kamala does. Trump can draw people even if he is not president. Can she? Kamala owes people an unprecedented amount of favors, and the biggest racket for money making is war. The woman wants power not to do good but for herself. She wants power for fame and money. She will not use it for you the people. You are only there to give her your money to her and your attention for her fame. Ask the question, why does she want to be president?

The woman has no soul. If she were from Texas, she would be a mixed female Republican. She is not RFK Jr. A lifelong Democrat who has fought corporate America for the little guy and has truly dedicated his life to the health of Americans. What has Kamala Harris ever done? Kiss ass. She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.

Admit it Tooms. You do not know her. If she did not have Democrat after her name, you would have nothing to do with her.

I will give you this Tooms. If Trump does not show America who she really is, there is a good chance she wins and for now, he is not doing it. He has not even given her a nickname. My preference would be chameleon Kamala.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2936447]Ah. While we wait a few minutes longer for the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site to shift Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris in their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map as they did recently with Wisconsin and Michigan, the poll lovers here might be interested to know that the 538 site is now showing Harris with a small but trending lead in Arizona along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia (among their Battleground States list) and half of a percentage point from a lead in Georgia.

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/[/URL]

And Nate Silver's Silver Bulletin now has Harris taking [b]a new lead in Arizona and Nevada[/b] along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Virginia, with only a 1 percentage point distance from a lead in Georgia:

[URL]https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model[/URL]

So the post-Republican National Convention Clown Show Festival of Blithering Lies campaign donations, campaign rally crowds and polling numbers Flight to Dems and the Dem Presidential Candidate continues at a steady pace.

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.[/QUOTE]

Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.
[LIST][b]Note:[/b] BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)[/LIST]The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the [i][b]first-ever presidential endorsement,[/b][/i] for Harris.

[b]Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years[/b]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/latino-group-lulac-endorses-harris-walz-election-1937246[/URl]

So with the:

--Black Women for Harris, Black Men for Harris, White Women for Harris, White Dudes for Harris, Republicans for Harris

AND NOW:

--Latinos for Harris

Are all great signs, that the Harris/Walz campaign, is making all kinds of new records, inroads and connecting with Americans of all stripes, that are keen voters, volunteers and donors, that are getting behind the Harris/Walz campaign, for the big push to win in [b][i]ROEvember[/i][/b]. Especially with a strong WOMEN's vote and now thanks to LULAC, a strong Latino vote.

[b]PS:[/b] Xpartan, I think this may be the type of "Conservative/Repub" centrist (or center-right) swing voter/movement, you were hoping for, but wasn't sure Harris would ever get?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2936512]Civil War? Would you any idea what hyperbole is?[/QUOTE]Yes, I do, and it doesn't sound like this:

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2936512]Let there be a Civil War 2.0. And all the smart money will be on the red team with all the guns.[/QUOTE]Now that your hyperbole claim is settled, there is this:

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2936512]

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-new...thood-scandal

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?[/QUOTE]No, I'm saying that your "baby butchers" are fake.

This POS video recorded by a professional conservative provocateur who had been trying to frame Planned Parenthood for years, was thoroughly debunked in 2015. Now the above-mentioned POS (the provocateur) released another 20 seconds of an expletive-laced exchange that mean precisely shit.

It would take a very special type of, well, thinker to buy this shit.

[B]Planned Parenthood: Fact v. Fiction[/B]

[URL]https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/planned-parenthood-fact-v-fiction[/URL]

[B]Planned Parenthood Investigations Find No Fetal Tissue Sales[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/464594826/in-wake-of-videos-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2936604]Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.
[LIST][b]Note:[/b] BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)[/LIST]The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the [i][b]first-ever presidential endorsement,[/b][/i] for Harris.

[b]Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years[/b]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/latino-group-lulac-endorses-harris-walz-election-1937246[/URl]..[/QUOTE]I too am not a big believer in polls "predicting" a presidential election outcome. Especially months before the election. But I saw others here celebrating and counting the days to the next Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and whatever new Great Repub Once in 100 Years Disaster that will surely accompany the next Repub presidency based on the recent (not current) polls.

What can be said about the polls for the most part over the years is a Consensus of Polls for the presidential race 2-3 days before election day tends to land within a normal +/-MoE of the actual vote. LOL. Which is a pretty low bar to achieve. Just about all of such Consensus of Polls can be arguably right and arguably wrong on that basis.

It turns out polls are not predictive of a Presidential election win. Neither are debate performances, age, money spent on the campaign, the VP candidate choice, lawn signs, rally crowd sizes and a whole host of other factors most professional and amateur pundits think predict the winner when history has been fairly clear they don't.

I've wasted too much time in this thread so have sworn it off, but am stopping by to reply to Paulie's off-topic comments elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2936200]

P.S. By extension I want to thank the many dentally challenged at Trump rallies that pass along not only this, but varieties of other truths they are privy to, not only though the grapevine but through their social media accounts and other online "sources" that specialize in truth. These, who are always quick to remind us we are reading in the wrong places are the real heroes here.[/QUOTE]Dear Paulie,

Trump's definitely got the right idea on Ukraine -- try to bring the two sides together to negotiate a peace. But he's almost as likely as the other jokers in Washington to get the USA in a war with Iran or China. His trade wars suck, as does his idea to politicize the Fed. And while not as bad as most high profile Democrats, he's a spendthrift. Most importantly, he tried to steal an election. If I'm allowed to vote, it won't be for Trump. Or Kamala, she's worse than Trump. My vote will go to Chase Oliver. He's "armed and gay. " While Chase's gayness may not comport with your and my idea of a manly man, he'd keep the USA out of conflicts where it doesn't belong. He wouldn't cater to the military industrial alliance.

Speaking of which, I shall pray that you someday see the light, like your favorite president, Dwight D. Eisenhower did. Eisenhower did more to cater to the military establishment and arms industry than any president in post World War II America. But in the end he came around. I hope some day you do too.

"Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime.

....This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence economic, political, even spiritual is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government.

....In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

....We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

--- Dwight David Eisenhower

The worldwide military industrial complex is gaining power and money from the Ukraine conflict -- another good reason to pursue an end to this madness.

Kind regards,

Tiny

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2936577]Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you..[/QUOTE]The fact that Harris is a Democrat and has been #2 in a Democratic Presidential Administration whose positive accomplishments for America and the spread of democracy around the world far outperformed most other Dem Administrations and ALL Repub Administrations is all I would have needed to know about Harris to fully endorse and vote for her. Although it is unavoidable that I do know more about her than that. And none of what I know, see and hear overrides that former overwhelming argument for any sane, patriotic American like me to support and vote for her.

Add to which we all know Trump very, very well and only an America-hating lunatic would want more of what that Repub brings to the table. As is true of virtually any Repub, of course, based on the overwhelming historical pattern of their policy and stewardship results vs that of the Dems.

Oh, here is the latest on the Presidential Betting Odds Consensus as posted on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site and as it currently appears on the Predictlt Betting Site, one of the more popular and followed sites, since you are very much into the idea that bets on the outcome in some way changes or influences the outcome:

[QUOTE=Spidy;2936604]Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.
[LIST][b]Note:[/b] BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)[/LIST]The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the [i][b]first-ever presidential endorsement,[/b][/i] for Harris.

[b]Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years[/b]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/latino-group-lulac-endorses-harris-walz-election-1937246[/URl]

So with the:

--Black Women for Harris, Black Men for Harris, White Women for Harris, White Dudes for Harris, Republicans for Harris

AND NOW:

--Latinos for Harris

Are all great signs, that the Harris/Walz campaign, is making all kinds of new records, inroads and connecting with Americans of all stripes, that are keen voters, volunteers and donors, that are getting behind the Harris/Walz campaign, for the big push to win in [b][i]ROEvember[/i][/b]. Especially with a strong WOMEN's vote and now thanks to LULAC, a strong Latino vote.

[b]PS:[/b] Xpartan, I think this may be the type of "Conservative/Repub" centrist (or center-right) swing voter/movement, you were hoping for, but wasn't sure Harris would ever get?[/QUOTE]Maybe. She's already doing better than I thought she would.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936577]Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada. [/QUOTE] Hogwash!

Yes, by all means reach into that birther bag, of racist nonsense, as if the percentage (%) of the racial makeup of a candidate means anything over the content of their character and what they represent and stand for.

[b]Trump's father was a racist who attended KKK rallies.[/b] Trump identifies with Hitler and has been called "America's Hitler" by his own veep, JD Vance, whom he chose and is now having buyer's remorse.

Trump is a felon, convict, charlatan, crook, overall cheat (at business taxes, golf and life), sex offender and adulterer. I think those things speaks more to the content of one's character than any hereditary racial and ethnic trait or characteristics, that are out of one's control.

Who are you, to question how someone wishes to identify?

Elvis 2008, by the same token and illogic, I'm surprised your not asking, if JD Vance, isn't ashamed of being white, since he did not marry a women, who is 100% white? (If even being 100% is a real thing?)

The press have vilified her and thinks he didn't exactly defend his wife very well when asked about all the attacks with regards to his non-white wife. And please explain [b]why are white supremacists so upset and outraged[/b] and attacking, Usha Chilukuri Vance for not being white? And why does her son have a name like Vivek?

[b]'Total loser': J.D. Vance fumes after Trump's white supremacist pal attacks his wife[/b]
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/total-loser-jd-vance-fumes-after-trumps-white-supremacist-pal-attacks-his-wife/ar-AA1oBTPz[/URL]

[u]Your post is yet just another stupid nonsensical rant, in a long line culture war rants, wanting to stir up shit where there is none![/u]

Just like you idiot Repubs/QAnon/MAGA numbskulls do, with cartoon and fictional characters, like purple Dinosaurs and purple Teletube Babies. Just Pathetic!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936577] Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you. [/QUOTE] (...kkkk!) You must be joking, right? We still don't know what Trump stands for (after over 1-year of campaigning) other than [b][i]tax-cuts for the rich[/i][/b] and [i][b]"drill baby drill"[/b][/i], both of which do very little to help hard working Americans, navigate the competitive future labor, manufacturing and business markets ahead.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936577] Trump has Truth Social which is worth billions and hotels ETC. He does not need to be president to make money. Kamala does. Trump can draw people even if he is not president. Can she? Kamala owes people an unprecedented amount of favors, and the biggest racket for money making is war. The woman wants power not to do good but for herself. She wants power for fame and money. She will not use it for you the people. You are only there to give her your money to her and your attention for her fame. Ask the question, why does she want to be president? [/QUOTE] Yes money is nice, but those who think it is everything above all else, are lost to what the job of presidency is really about. Trump cares nothing for serving his country and being the narcissist that he is, believes America should serve him.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936577] The woman has no soul. If she were from Texas, she would be a mixed female Republican. She is not RFK Jr. A lifelong Democrat who has fought corporate America for the little guy and has truly dedicated his life to the health of Americans. What has Kamala Harris ever done? Kiss ass. She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.

Admit it Tooms. You do not know her. If she did not have Democrat after her name, you would have nothing to do with her.

I will give you this Tooms. If Trump does not show America who she really is, there is a good chance she wins and for now, he is not doing it. He has not even given her a nickname. My preference would be chameleon Kamala.[/QUOTE] Your funny! (...kkkk!) You should take a good look at your own candidate. Trump is not only is soulless, but is heartless, godless, faithless, gutless, remorseless, emotionless and thoughtless. But all that flawed content of character means nothing to you, perhaps because you can self-relate to his ilk and his emotional and empathetic bankruptcy?

Come [i][b]ROEvember[/b][/i], you'll come to find out America wants nothing more to do with him.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936217]So now this post is censored which cracked me up.

To recap my post was how can whites be racist when 50,75, and 100% white people are saying they are not white? How can we Republicans be sexist if Dems cannot define what a woman is? On a 1 to 10 scale, that is a 10 , a kill shot. There is no good answer to it. [/QUOTE] (...kkkk!) Sure dude, if that's what you think you were saying. Frankly, your culture war rhetoric and percentages of what [u]you think[/u] is someone racial or ethnic make up, is just nonsense. Pure Rubbish!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936217]So your response was a 0. Basically, Elvis, you are stupid. Trump is stupid, and Democrats are American. So if anybody should be clamoring for your post being censored, it should be me, and that is the last thing I want. I want everyone to see how pathetic your response was. [/QUOTE] Hey Elvis 2008, I also did NOT mention that Looney Tunes characters like, Buggs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd, Foghorn Leghorn, Wile E. Coyote, The Road Runner and good ol' apple pie & ice cream, are American. [b]But they are 100% American.[/b]

So what exactly is the culture war point you're trying to make?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936217]But beyond the arguing, you think censorship is good. Sorry, I do not. And how was this correct? You can still read what I wrote, and in your case if your post was censored, the person who should want it down the most wants it up. That is censorship is but I am not sure what the point of it is. [/QUOTE] Yeah, want now? Not sure of anything you just mentioned. So once again, my counterpoint to your culture war nonsense, was that Obama, Veep Harris and Sen. Elizabeth Warren are %100 American. PERIOD! No argument here!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936217]We just saw the idiocy with Covid and absolute obedience to leadership. [b]And here you are Spidy worshipping an admin.[/b] I wonder how authority humping mongers live with themselves. I used to think it was they hated themselves, and I am sure some do. Now I just wonder what percentage are narcissists who think the government would understand their need for mongering when the truth is government is doing all it can to put mongers in jail.[/QUOTE] It's hilarious how you love to weave COVID in to everything...kkkk! Your answer to most everything these days is COVID this and COVID that...kkkk!

Hey, weave whatever COVID narrative, into your gish gallop viewpoints about governments, mongerers, self-loathing and culture wars purple dinosaurs, if it helps you sleep at nights. Pray at the alter of COVID and worship the gods of Coronavirus, if it brings you peace. But your COVID rants, have always been just more gish gallop, to me.

Yeah, you're just such a censorship rebel without a pause. Well fell free to show us, how you make your own rules and follow no one rules but your own. Be a good censorship rebel why don't you, and show us how much of a censorship rebel you are?

But given all your ISG admin censorship gish gallop and misplaced rage has been, I don't recall even a peep outta your censorship-ass, when REAL censorship has taken place in any of your book burning / book banning Repub ruby red states. Not a freakin' peep! [b]So please spare me your self-righteous indignation about "ISG censorship"![/b]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2936217]So yeah, I do think there is a huge difference with Democrats and Republicans on this issue. Democrats want to be taken care of by government while Republicans want the government to leave us alone.[/QUOTE] (...kkkk!) Sure Elvis 2008...sure! And I'm sure that's what the big banks, big corporations and GM told themselves back in 2008, right!
[LIST]Let take a look at a history of Repubs and Dems being [b]"taken care"[/b] of by U.S. government bailout of American corporations (and one city), calculated in 2008 dollars:

--Penn Central Railroad, 1970 ($3.3 billion), Lockheed 1971 ($1.4 billion),
--Franklin National Bank 1974 ($7.8 billion), New York 1975 ($9.6 billion),
--Chrysler 1980 ($4.0 billion), Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company 1985 ($9.5 billion),
--Savings & Loan 1989 [b]($293.3 billion)[/b], Airline Industry 2001 ($18.6.3 billion),
-- Bear Stearns 2008 ($30 billion), Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac 2008 [b]($400 billion)[/b],
--American International Group (A.I.G.) 2008 [b]($180 billion)[/b], Auto Industry 2008 ($25 billion),
--Troubled Asset Relief Program 2008 [b]($700 billion)[/b], Citigroup 2008 [b]($280 billion)[/b],
--Bank of America 2009 [b]($142.2 billion)[/b][/LIST]Sure Elvis 2008...sure!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2936690]
Trump is a felon, convict, charlatan, crook, overall cheat (at business taxes, golf and life), sex offender and adulterer. I think those things speaks more to the content of one's character than any hereditary racial and ethnic trait or characteristics, that are out of one's control. Just like you idiot Repubs/QAnon/MAGA numbskulls do, with cartoon and fictional characters, like purple Dinosaurs and purple Teletube Babies. Just Pathetic! Trump is not only is soulless, but is heartless, godless, faithless, gutless, remorseless, emotionless and thoughtless. But all that flawed content of character means nothing to you, perhaps because you can self-relate to his ilk and his emotional and empathetic bankruptcy?[/QUOTE]First, you have all this venom. Jesus, I swear people have less despicable things to say about murderers on death row.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2936690]And then there is this, We still don't know what Trump stands for[/QUOTE]The only justification for that kind of attitude is if you were tortured from 2016 to 2020. He was president for 4 years and you do not know what he stands for or how he will govern? Talk about pathetic. Your name calling reached epic levels with these two posts and yet nothing about Harris. Shit, you have no idea why you are voting for her.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2936690]It's hilarious how you love to weave COVID in to everything...kkkk! Your answer to most everything these days is COVID this and COVID that...kkkk![/QUOTE]Being force fed Covid? Shit, you dumb Dems did that for years. Given it cost us 2 years of freedom and $10 trillion and was a farce, I do not think it gets enough talk. You keep wanting to sweep it in the never mind pile.

But that was not even what the question was about. It was about how you can be such an authority humper and not hate yourself with mongering being illegal. You did not talk about that, but I think it is pretty obvious now you are a follower and the people you follow tell you it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2936666]The fact that Harris is a Democrat[/QUOTE]You can stop there.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2936666]Thas been #2 in a Democratic Presidential Administration whose positive accomplishments for America and the spread of democracy around the world far outperformed most other Dem Administrations and ALL Repub Administrations is all I would have needed to know about Harris to fully endorse and vote for her. Although it is unavoidable that I do know more about her than that.[/QUOTE]Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Between Spidy's two posts and your one, you have no reason to vote for her outside of her being a Democrat. You are just going to vote whoever the elites put out so why should we even have voting? We have already identified Spidy as a non-thinking authority humper. Maybe we should add you to the list too.

For people who still enjoy considering the Polls, of course:

Three new Polling Services of enough credibility and quality for the 538 Site to post them and factor them into their Election Forecasts, Morning Consult, Big Village and The Bullfinch Group, have Harris / Walz beating Trump / Vance across the board in the Head-to-Heads and 5-Ways, among Registered Voters, Likely Voters, All Americans, on Favorability (all positive for Harris and Walz, all negative for Trump and Vance), etc in the General Election and in the critical Battlegound States of WI, MI and PA, along with every Senate race in those states going to the Dem.

Amazing:

[B]Latest Polls, ending August 10, 2024.[/B]

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/[/URL]

The 538 Site has yet to re-activate their Who Is Favored To Win feature since the Repub Convention ended with a Lying Clown Crash and Joe Biden decided that was a good time to drop out of the race and shift his support and positive polling trends to his VP.

When they do, I presume Harris / Walz will top their Electoral Vote Forcast with well over 270 EVs and a sizable lead in the Popular Vote. Just as Biden / Harris had been doing quite often post-debate, in the final weeks before Biden dropped out and even during the Repub National Convention Lying Clown Show.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2936884]You can stop there.

Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Between Spidy's two posts and your one, you have no reason to vote for her outside of her being a Democrat. You are just going to vote whoever the elites put out so why should we even have voting? We have already identified Spidy as a non-thinking authority humper. Maybe we should add you to the list too.[/QUOTE]The sad reality is, based on all Repub Administration policy and stewardship results for the past 100 years, as a Democrat, [B]EVEN I[/B] would be a better president than any or all of the Repubs combined!

And that is even if I governed from my apartment, the restaurants and entertainment venues in Bangkok for the entire 8 years of my presidency.

By stark contrast, what Biden-Harris accomplished in just 3 1/2 years is truly stellar.

Among them:

[B]23 of the Biden/Harris terms greatest accomplishments.
April 2, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.kanedems.org/2024/04/23-of-joe-bidens-greatest-accomplishments-as-president-of-the-united-states/[/URL]

Thanks again, Joe and Kamala.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2936931]For people who still enjoy considering the Polls, of course:

Three new Polling Services of enough credibility and quality for the 538 Site to post them and factor them into their Election Forecasts, Morning Consult, Big Village and The Bullfinch Group, have Harris / Walz beating Trump / Vance across the board in the Head-to-Heads and 5-Ways, among Registered Voters, Likely Voters, All Americans, on Favorability (all positive for Harris and Walz, all negative for Trump and Vance), etc in the General Election and in the critical Battlegound States of WI, MI and PA, along with every Senate race in those states going to the Dem.

Amazing:

[B]Latest Polls, ending August 10, 2024.[/B]

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/[/URL]

The 538 Site has yet to re-activate their Who Is Favored To Win feature since the Repub Convention ended with a Lying Clown Crash and Joe Biden decided that was a good time to drop out of the race and shift his support and positive polling trends to his VP.

When they do, I presume Harris / Walz will top their Electoral Vote Forcast with well over 270 EVs and a sizable lead in the Popular Vote. Just as Biden / Harris had been doing quite often post-debate, in the final weeks before Biden dropped out and even during the Repub National Convention Lying Clown Show.[/QUOTE]The convict doesn't know to fight back yet. Everything he's doing is geared toward Biden, which was successful. But now, the campaign just sounds like a Rick Roll meme. Jon Stewart pointed this out at the 12:12 minutes mark of the video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW6tHIcGfc[/URL].