Angeles City

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1616817]To BB49.

I don't understand why you go through all this next time just take the taxi at the airport to Swagman hotel at Emrita and take the van direct to Wild Orchid for 600 p,if you can afford 4000 p a night at Wild Orchid why lug your luggage around like this live and learn.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Indeed, guys spending P4 k / night why not just ask the hotel for an airport pickup? Gosh its not much money & you arrive via a first class experience fresh & smiling?

Its all part of the decadent experience.

AV.

[QUOTE=Bareback49;1618546]So I just got back from my 1st time in A. See. And wanted to pass on a few notes to any other 1st timers. If you read this forum enough you'll pickup some good tips, so do your research, you'll have a better time if you know the lay of the land. I spent 3 weeks in August 2014 in AC and I had a really fantastic time. I saw no evidence of raids or trouble which I had been worried about. I met several really great girls and some not so great girls, had some good nights and got taken advantage of a couple of times. It was my experience that if you aren't firm enough you'll be taken advantage of by some of the girls in the bars but if you learn to be firm but nice you'll have a great time. My example is that I was in the Bunny Ranch on my 3rd night and I locked eyes with this really beautiful 20 yo girl. She came over and asked if I would buy her a drink, which I did, and we started talking. I asked her if I could barfine her but she said not tonight. But maybe tomorrow. So the next night I go back to the Bunny Ranch and as soon as I walk in the same girl sees me and comes right over and sits down with a friend of hers. Not wanting to be rude I buy them both a lady drink and when the waitress comes over to get our order my cute 20 yo says something under her breath I didn't understand...[/QUOTE]It is good that prices are cheap there, so your damage is nothing. That what they do, the point is you have to be very experienced monger and spend on Fields few months to pick up the rules, at least I have got this impression. Those girls work there, you and me and others are just only "next one" for them to suck out of you money for their food. And that is the issue, they are not get paid enough, poor etc. And this is problem for the service they give, unprofessional; basically it is a rip off. The whole fields ave. Bar scene is not streamlined, you don't know what you will get and what you will not get from a girl.

I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.

[QUOTE=Bareback49;1618546]The three of us talk for a while and she's only somewhat affectionate towards me but I'm thinking she's just shy. Another round comes and goes and I finally ask her if she's ready to come with me and then she tells me she's got her monthly visitor, as does her friend. I'm bummed but still thinking it's ok, then the bill comes. What she mumbled to the waitress was "double" so now I'm stuck with a 1400 p bar bill. So the lesson here is that if you're going to be a nice guy and not pay attention you're going to get a few large drink bills. I was a little upset because I felt this girl played me a little but the truth is I let myself get played. If you only want to buy a single lady drink, make sure to be clear with your waitress. If a girl brings over a friend and you don't want to buy her a lady drink, politely decline. If you want to barfine a girl ask upfront if she wants to be barfined by you. She may not want to be. After this experience I was much better about being up front, being polite but firm and saying no when I didn't want to buy a girl a drink, and for the rest of my trip I had a great time.

As someone said "It's important to learn the rules so you know how to break them properly!"[/QUOTE]Great early and honest report BB49. So many guys could learn from this kind of typical newb mistake by RTTF.

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618584]And this is problem for the service they give, unprofessional; basically it is a rip off. The whole fields ave. Bar scene is not streamlined, you don't know what you will get and what you will not get from a girl.[/QUOTE]That's correct. But its not always a ripoff. You were wrong before in your assessment of all bars charging p3000, and you are incorrect in that all girls rip guys off. The vast majority of girls follow thru and spend the night and give multiple pops. Your experience is not typical. Also I've found that about 20% are willing to come back outside of her work time (after her shift, or on her day off), for as little as p500 for a session (that's half, or even 1/4 of her normal barfine split).

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618584]I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.[/QUOTE]That's good psychology, but not necessarily correct. Pinay culture is not to do a better job just because you pay better money. It is to get as much money as she can, as often as she can from as many men as she can (opportunism). An example: On Mondays and Thursdays you have a pinay come to your hotel to service you for p1000 each time. She is happy with the arrangement. Then she finds another guy who gives her p5000 for the same thing at his hotel every Wednesday and Saturday. You might think she would give better service to the Wednesday / Saturday guy, but you might be wrong. You might think she'd drop the p1000 guy altogether, or insist to him that he increase her pay to, say, p2000 each time, but you might be wrong. In fact, you might be surprised that if he said he was low on cash, and asked her in txt msg not to come over today (Monday) because he could only give her p500, she might well show up and fuck for that amount also. She is opportunistic to a large degree (p500 is not nearly as good as 5000, but its better than zero -- always).

Other gents?

[QUOTE=Bareback49;1618546] If you want to barfine a girl ask upfront if she wants to be barfined by you. She may not want to be. After this experience I was much better about being up front, being polite but firm and saying no when I didn't want to buy a girl a drink, and for the rest of my trip I had a great time. [/QUOTE]How do you know you want to barfine a girl before you spend some time with her, buy her a drink or two, and see if she is the right one tonight? Buying drinks for the girls I meet and getting to know them a little is part of the game. It is a fun part of the evening. I love fooling around with the girls in the bar and getting personal if you know what i mean. If after the first or second Tequila shot you are not getting a positive vibe from said girl, say goodnight, and move on to the next bar. It is more complicated that just seeing a pretty girl and propositioning her. I would rather buy a girl a drink or two and end up not barfining her than take a girl that is not into showing me a good time and finding out about it later.

P.S. This BMD (buy me drink only) thing must be a new phenomenon in AC. I never encountered it here and I was last in AC in April. Did I wander onto the Phnom Penh forum by mistake?

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618584]It is good that prices are cheap there, so your damage is nothing. That what they do, the point is you have to be very experienced monger and spend on Fields few months to pick up the rules, at least I have got this impression. Those girls work there, you and me and others are just only "next one" for them to suck out of you money for their food. And that is the issue, they are not get paid enough, poor etc. And this is problem for the service they give, unprofessional; basically it is a rip off. The whole fields ave. Bar scene is not streamlined, you don't know what you will get and what you will not get from a girl.

I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.[/QUOTE]"Have it your way", marketing jingle from Burger King in the US.

MS, is from a generation of having things their way and on demand. McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and others which provide the same quick generic production line quality and availability. Being young, tall and hansum along with large penis has provided him a long line of available free poon. All lined up for him wherever he goes.

Comes to AC and it is an ego deflating experience, Bg's won't go for free, no long line of free poon, his good looks and large penis along with P3000 can't get a good fuck, every bar is different, where is the McDo of bars. Where you can order by the numbers and have it your way?

Thinking $200 poon is better is like thinking $200 pair of Nike will make you run faster!

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618584]I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.[/QUOTE]You want $200, just go to Makati. But don't necessarily expect better service there. What gets you good service in this country is rapport, not money.

And yes, AC is tricky to figure out for a newcomer, and everybody makes mistakes at first. Personally I wouldn't touch the big show bars with a bargepole, but I knows guys who have learned how to do well even there. There's a lot of useful advice on this forum but ultimately everyone has to put in the time and the effort to figure out an approach that works for them. If you're not willing to do that then you're not going to get much sympathy here.

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I wish it was 200 bucks for a bang on fields ave, a lot of cheap Charlie's would be out of the picture, girls would give better service as well.[/QUOTE]The old school "cheap charlies" are the guys who made AC great! They knew how to keep prices in check, they new how to standardized the Long Time procedure for the girls, and they knew how not to throw money around spoiling every trike driver, waitress, and door girl.

AC was great until all the wannabe mongers showed up thinking like they knew how to monger. A bunch of novice gangnum style / facebook generation pussies have fucked things up.

The philippinos have also become softer and more welcoming for the pussies to come spend their money. It was better when there was more of dangerous vibe to the place. This scared away all the pussies and left the place for the true mongers (cheap charlie's) to keep things in check.

If you want to spend $200 for a fuck, there are plenty of other places for you in the world! AC is definitely not the place for you!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1618637]"Have it your way", marketing jingle from Burger King in the US.

MS, is from a generation of having things their way and on demand. McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and others which provide the same quick generic production line quality and availability. Being young, tall and hansum along with large penis has provided him a long line of available free poon. All lined up for him wherever he goes.

Comes to AC and it is an ego deflating experience, Bg's won't go for free, no long line of free poon, his good looks and large penis along with P3000 can't get a good fuck, every bar is different, where is the McDo of bars. Where you can order by the numbers and have it your way?

Thinking $200 poon is better is like thinking $200 pair of Nike will make you run faster![/QUOTE]I have no EGO, you got one, you talking like I have fucked your girlfriend, drop it, and make a reasonable response based on situation on Fields not on me. I witnessed in Crystal Palace one korean threw from second level to dancers 15 k pesos in 1 k bills, others did 5 k in 50 pesos bills, so about 5 different people in 3 hours on Saturday night, so what kind Fields we are talking about? I don't give a fcuk about that fields ave, went there, checked the place, went out and never will be back. Fields is loaded with Koreans and Japanese, interesting how much they pay to girls? I have seen Fields with my own eyes so whatever people say I know what is happening there. It is money oriented place, a game, girls need just money. Yes cheap charlies started the place, but it is not anymore probably as it was. Never been there 5 years ago, nothing to compare with. My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618757] snip ...... My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.[/QUOTE]You are not alone. Many guys learn by trail and error. I don't mind buying a cutie a drink to have her sit on my lap and play. It can be fun. However, if I am somewhat interested in taking the girl, I have learned to ask her UPFRONT if she is available to barfine. Right away, you can find out if she available or not, if she is a cherry girl, on her period, or whatever else she might say. If you don't get the reply you want, there no reason to buy her a drink and keep her around. That shit happened to me on my first trip to AC. Me and 2 other guys are in a place and they soon both had a girl. I was looking to grab one too. I called a girl over, she is on my lap and all systems are a go (we are talking, laughing, playfully touching, etc.). I ordered her a drink. As the waitress goes to get the girl a beer, I told her I wanted to take her with me. She said she can't because she was on her period. I was lucky I asked when I did. Otherwise that chick might have gotten 2 drinks. If I was just looking to hang out, fondle her, and mess around, ok fine. But I was looking for some take-out. No need to waste my time and money on buying her a drink.

I learned right away to ask if the girl is available for take out. If she is not, I will interview another one.

The following day, we went to another bar / gogo. I asked the waitress to call over # As soon as the girl arrived, I had her sit with me and we made small talk. I asked if she wants to come party in my room. She said she was a cherry girl. I was like, what? So do you want to come with me. The waitress explained that she was a virgin. So I asked her politely if she wants to come and play. I suggested that she can give me a BJ. She declined. And I decline and buying her a drink.

Started out last night with Det 5 bar. Walked in and the place looked old and tired. Thought WTF I will stay for one drink. Bought a 20 yo spinner a drink, upon talking with her, learned she did not boom boom but she had 2 other sisters working there that did if they liked you. She said most people take the 3 out to party or bar hop and then end of the night picks one of the two for boom boom. No threesome. The 3 sisters were very nice looking but more importantly were very nice and friendly. Too bad they were starting a few days of leave and were not available for BF. Meanwhile the 20 yo pointed out to me a 21 yo spinner to BF, I had the 20 yo go to the 21 yo and do my bidding for me, which was to see if she would fit my guild lines. She qualified and off we went. BTW BF is P1500.

I asked if she wanted something to eat and a shy yes came out of her with a guilty look of wanting Jollibees, so we jeepney over to checkpoint terminal and walked over to Jollibees in the light rain. I am beginning to like this girl as she jeepneys to save me some money. Turns out she is a first timer and been here less than a week. Pretty sweet girl. It starts to rain heavy now at Jollibees so we trike it to the hotel.

After she eats I ask if she wants to shower together and the usual reply, "I am shy". I said let's just try it and she meekly replys, "ok". I am beginning to like her more as she is at least willing to try. After a few minutes in the shower, the unbelievable action starts in the shower. We end up moving our wet bodies to the bed without bothering to dry off. One the top 3 hot passionate girls I have meet in Phils. She stays until 10 am and has completely worn me out even though she cowgirled me most the night.

Sorry guys but I am BF this girl the next 3 nights until I leave AC.

Never know how things will work out. Det 5 didn't look nice inside and learning the 20 yo didn't boom boom after buying her a drink was looking like a losing deal here. Next thing I know, I got one of my top 3! Got to love hunting in A see!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1618990]We end up moving our wet bodies to the bed without bothering to dry off. One the top 3 hot passionate girls I have meet in Phils. She stays until 10 am and has completely worn me out even though she cowgirled me most the night.

Sorry guys but I am BF this girl the next 3 nights until I leave AC.

Never know how things will work out. Det 5 didn't look nice inside and learning the 20 yo didn't boom boom after buying her a drink was looking like a losing deal here. Next thing I know, I got one of my top 3! Got to love hunting in A see![/QUOTE]Great descriptive report! More details from the next few nights with this honey.

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618757]I have no EGO, you got one, you talking like I have fucked your girlfriend, drop it, and make a reasonable response based on situation on Fields not on me. I witnessed in Crystal Palace one korean threw from second level to dancers 15 k pesos in 1 k bills, others did 5 k in 50 pesos bills, so about 5 different people in 3 hours on Saturday night, so what kind Fields we are talking about? I don't give a fcuk about that fields ave, went there, checked the place, went out and never will be back. Fields is loaded with Koreans and Japanese, interesting how much they pay to girls? I have seen Fields with my own eyes so whatever people say I know what is happening there. It is money oriented place, a game, girls need just money. Yes cheap charlies started the place, but it is not anymore probably as it was. Never been there 5 years ago, nothing to compare with. My experience was not great on Fields ave, highly likely I am not the only one.[/QUOTE]Sorry Muppet, I must have been mistaken about your EGO being deflated.

[QUOTE=MuppetShow;1618015]Hmmm, kind strange responses, did I came here to try your balls mongers? I have said what I have experienced, I do not want to force lady out, I am not on tight budget, I can fucking blow thousands if I want to, those 70 bucks are nothing. I am giving a statement, Fields is a shit hole loaded with prostitutes, low level ones, I had girls in Vegas that do their job properly here just a banana tree girls. There is no need to explain more, I never went especially for Angeles there, I am in Phils more than 6 months already, due to my work, in Angeles I went to check out the place. Yes I consider myself not a monger because I am not running after pussy, like one Korean guy I met in the bar, fucked 6 girls I'd 2 days. That is a monger.

In Gensan, Cogoyan, Davao, Cebu. I had all those Philippinas for free, in they were fucking the shit out of me. Here you paying and those cunts not even doing their job properly, LOL, monger destination?[/QUOTE]Well being that I totally love LAS VEGAS and might soon be living there. IF I had 1000's to blow all the time on mongering I would not have to leave that town ever. MONEY is all you need and if it no object then Vegas is the best mongering town you can be in. Any type girl you would ever want is there for a price. Tall short skinny fat old young good looking ugly Asian ebony Latina Russian blond red head, Thai Korean Brazilian German you name it you can get it. So why I ask did you go all the way to a dirty little town in the middle of a third world country to LOOK around? Oh and I have once fucked 6 girls in 2 days also so guess I am a monger too.

[QUOTE=DCups;1618062]The other town, let me guess. Tijuana?[/QUOTE]Pattaya Thailand.