Ho Chi Minh City - Massage Parlors

General question here to everyone: those massage places on Bui Vien street that have girls outside passing out brochures, those girls seem to be getting cute and cuter.

Unfortunately, it all eye candy for me. Massage is ok only with HJ. Last week I managed to engaged in conversation with Phuong near pink Tullip hotel. She is young and cute, dressed in white. I asked her for good places to eat and we walked down the street a little to have bun go hue on bui vien. After the great meal, we went to a small hotel in the alley for less than $10, or 200,000 dong, and had FS 800,000 dong. She had small frame with perky tits, but an amazing face. DFK too.

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Unfortunately, it all eye candy for me. Massage is ok only with HJ. Last week I managed to engaged in conversation with Phuong near pink Tullip hotel. She is young and cute, dressed in white. I asked her for good places to eat and we walked down the street a little to have bun go hue on bui vien. After the great meal, we went to a small hotel in the alley for less than $10, or 200,000 dong, and had FS 800,000 dong. She had small frame with perky tits, but an amazing face. DFK too.[/QUOTE]Pink Tulip is in the alley off of Bui Vien up on the other side of De Tham. I was talking about the massage places down much further in middle of Bui Vien. So I'm not sure your experience there is necessarily the same as for those other places. It is useful to know what price you were able to bargain. Was that what she asked, or what you proposed, or end result of negotiations? I'd be curious to hear what she first asked for.

[QUOTE=Wendella;1789440]Pink Tulip is in the alley off of Bui Vien up on the other side of De Tham. I was talking about the massage places down much further in middle of Bui Vien. So I'm not sure your experience there is necessarily the same as for those other places. It is useful to know what price you were able to bargain. Was that what she asked, or what you proposed, or end result of negotiations? I'd be curious to hear what she first asked for.[/QUOTE]I did not have much luck down that end, ending with HJ only. I offered the price last time because I wanted to pay a total of $50. I have bargained for 300,000 dong for FS in the area, but it was rushed and not GFE.

The best price I ever had was 200,000 from a mamasan and her girl on a motorcycle. They rode around the area asking single guys for massage and boom boom. Knowing they may steal from me, I had only 400,000 on me, leaving my stash at the hotel. They asked me for 500,000 and then 400,000, then 300,000, then 200,000. I paid 200,000, and they stole 150,000 from me. I left pant on bed while taking shower with girl. Lesson: Take everything you have with you because they have key to short time room. After FS they dropped me off at bui vien and de tham.

I went back to Nature Spa in D2 and tried Phuong. She is not much to look at, probably a 6. But as she has tit enhancements, I thought I give it a try. Quite a pleasant back and leg massage for 30 minutes. Then the flip and straight away the question "you like boom boom? 1 mil" After my confirmation she starts straight away sucking me quite nicely and unrushed. Then takes off her dress and underwear, lubes up my hand and guides it towards her pussy for some playing. After about 5 minutes I put her on her back and start doing her. She did not try to rush me either which I thought was nice given the fact that with every thrust there was some discomfort in her eyes. Finish in doggy and I walked away a happy customer. I will be back for more, two other girls I have not tried yet.

I tried KaKa Spa at 138 Bui Vien recently. You have to walk through the middle of a restaurant and go upstairs to get to it. There are several girls that work there. The most attractive girl does not give massages. She sits out in front and lures customers in. The girl I had was cute enough though. I chose the 60 minute relaxing body massage for 140,000.

You have to pay in advance. When it gets to the HJ part the girl will also ask you to pay in advance for that. The girl will start out negotiations rather high- 800,000 but you can get price down quite a bit. The massage part was pretty good. All in all, not a bad experience.

[QUOTE=Casey2005;1790371]I tried KaKa Spa at 138 Bui Vien recently. You have to walk through the middle of a restaurant and go upstairs to get to it. There are several girls that work there. The most attractive girl does not give massages. She sits out in front and lures customers in. The girl I had was cute enough though. I chose the 60 minute relaxing body massage for 140,000.

You have to pay in advance. When it gets to the HJ part the girl will also ask you to pay in advance for that. The girl will start out negotiations rather high- 800,000 but you can get price down quite a bit. The massage part was pretty good. All in all, not a bad experience.[/QUOTE]OK yes that place is one of the ones I meant, all around there. Earlier I asked some specific questions, hope you can shed some light:

[QUOTE=Wendella;1789005]Or if only massage plus HJ, what other kinds of things can happen up there? And for what prices? For example, do the girls get naked? Do they get on the bed with you? Can you touch them anywhere? BJ on offer? Or any other possibilities? [/QUOTE]HJ with the girl naked and lying on the bed with you would be worth a try. If she's fully dressed and swatting your hand away from touching anywhere, that's not worth going for, IMO. Also how low is low? 800 is ridiculous for a HJ, unless it's something spectacular, like her sitting on top of you both naked while doing it, ok maybe. But she'd need to really be something special in the looks department too then at that price.

[QUOTE=Casey2005;1790371]I tried KaKa...[/QUOTE]To add a little bit more info to the post above and to Wendella's original question about this area. I haven't tried this particular Spa, but I have tried many of the others, which are close to it on Bui Vien plus Spas in the two main alleys between Bui Vien and Pham Ngu Lao, all with quite different experiences. It's a lottery I reckon and you may or may not get lucky if you want more than just a massage. If monetary value is 100% your main driver, then it's going to be cheaper and easier away from here.

From the places I've been, some girls gave a very good massage with a 'Massage Baby?' or other 'open negotiations' actions near the end. These are vanilla HJ's with not a lot else, but pleasant enough. One hour ticket prices (VND) usually 130,000 - 160,000 plus 350,000 - 500,000 (or more) depending on who / where / when (their own little bonuses is the 'or more' bit in the pricing) agreed and so on. Many do, but some don't do this at all.

The best experience I have ever had in this area was a one-off. I chanced on a daytime four hand massage because it was raining very heavily and business wasn't strong as a result. The end result was not FS, but still an amazing load of fun. Both girls no clothes on, long double blow job, being rimmed by one and blown by the other and then them swapping duties, my toes sucked, my nipples sucked, kissed and licked in many other places, kissing with both of them (but not full on DFK) fingering them both whilst being double blown and a combined finish of HJ, full on fingering my prostrate and kissing me all at the same time. No CIM, no sex, not the cheapest many will think, but as a one off, well worth the experience. 35 minutes, good four hand massage with teasing build ups, 30 minutes session (plus 10 minutes beforehand negotiating the full deal with the two of them. Both girls early twenties and very keen to deliver (for the big tip? Haha) once we had actually agreed everything beforehand, which is easier if you can manage to speak some VN. The total (four hand ticket, private room, both their tips and me rounding it up) because it was a great unplanned surprise experience, was 3 Mil VND. Compared to my country of origin prices for a similar experience, that's very good VFM, but if you're an expat living in HCMC, you're unlikely to investigate this further. There's lots cheaper elsewhere, as you'll know. I'm not naming the Spa or naming via PM as the two girls may have just been very accommodating for me on that day, due to the time and weather conditions and / or excited by a big tip and for pushing their own boundaries too, which was a subject covered beforehand in the deal chat.

I've not seen these two girls since. The 'surprise' buzz can't be repeated with the same girls, but it is a lottery in this area as I said before and girls do change regularly at those Spa's. Seek and you may find and be lucky!

[QUOTE=HuskyOne;1791156]To add a little bit more info to the post above[/QUOTE]My thanks to you, O Husky One. That is more like the kind of response I was hoping for. As you know, obviously, "HJ" can in reality be something vastly different depending on what happens before the actual HJ. To just tell us the place has "Massage with HJ" is to basically not let us know what they really do there. A while back there were some excellent field reports in this thread about visits to those spas that were more like yours, and focused on (I think) Kaka. This guy did get the cute girl out front who is normally not available (and I think it's not the same one who is there now, but not sure) and had a dream session with her, of 3 hours he said. If you search for his reports, it was Sidtip. But that was over a year ago, and I have no idea if his experience was a one-off or if it was standard. That is the kind of info we need in here, about if these places (and others) have standard "very good" massage / HJ sessions (naked girl, touch anywhere, maybe rub her pussy on you, that kind of thing Sidtip reported) or if it is just lame HJ ("please don't touch me, let me finish this unpleasant task quickly".

For sure, from what you report, it sounds like prices are high for what you get at these places. That's too bad, because I was seeing some quite delicious looking girls, but they look a lot less delicious if I'll be paying double or triple what is charged in local places for worse service.

And I have to say, I don't love it when guys come here and post a quick field report (see below, Casey and Big Wallet) with very vague details, or no detail, especially the necessary parts, and then they leave immediately forever so you can't ask any follow-up questions. And they don't have PM so you can't contact them that way.

Walking down Bui Vien Street you are assaulted with flyers for spas / massages. Firebreathers, dried squid sellers, girls grabbing your arm to stop, natural and unnatural substances offered. Bui Vien is an assault on your senses. I like to walk down this street every once so often to take part in the madness. Finding decent P4 P action in Saigon is really hard. Especially in D1. Most people are just out to gouge foreigners for as much money as they can. I read online there were some places on Pham Ngu Lao Street. I couldn't find any. I tried to find the Liberty 2 Hotel at 129-133 Ham Nghi. I couldn't find it. It's hard to find places that have a good reputation. I scoured through this forum (and other places online) but didn't find any good recommendations. If you have any, please let me know.

I was pleasantly surprised by Kaka Spa. The girl that stopped me on Bui Vien wasn't a knockout but she was really cute and had a great smile and attitude. She led me through the restaurant and up the stairs. She showed me the girl who was going to give me my massage (nice big tits but her face wasn't that great). The massage she gave me was pretty good but not amazing. I tried to fondle her beautiful big boobs. She wouldn't let me touch them. I wanted her to finish the massage with her top off but she didn't want to. Even after offering her a tip (are topless massages even offered in Saigon? At the end she offered to "massa baby". She said 600,000 VND but then quickly went to 300,000. She said she couldn't do a BJ. I passed but did pay 230,000 for the 75 minute massage.

I was up for more play so I kept walking around D1. It was after midnight and I'm a big tall white guy alone. I attracted a lot of attention. A woman in a colorful dress brought me to her hotel. She brought in 2 ugly girls and asked for 1. 5 M VND for boom-boom with 1 of the ugly girls. They both had bad attitudes. I passed.

A tout approached me and convinced me to come to some random hotel. I didn't want to get on his motorbike but I did follow him by foot. He brought me to Massage Bloom. I got to pick my girl (there were only 3 or 4 working though). I picked An. She had a great body and she told me she liked me. Her charm continued throughout the massage. She had no problem massaging my butt or pulling down my shorts and teasing me (unprompted touching of my johnson). I asked her to come back to the hotel. She said she couldn't. She only offered me a HJ, not a BJ. The price was 350,000 VND for the 60 minute massage (tip was 200,000 VND).

Kaka Spa.

138 Bui Vien (walk through the middle of a restaurant), District 1.

[URL]http://rockitreports.com/review-kaka-spa-ho-chi-minh-city-vietnam/[/URL]

Massage Bloom.

27-29 Truong Dinh Street, Ben Thanh Ward, District 1.

Open 24 hours.

[QUOTE=EmptyBigWallet;1789928]I did not have much luck down that end, ending with HJ only. I offered the price last time because I wanted to pay a total of $50. I have bargained for 300,000 dong for FS in the area, but it was rushed and not GFE.

The best price I ever had was 200,000 from a mamasan and her girl on a motorcycle. They rode around the area asking single guys for massage and boom boom. Knowing they may steal from me, I had only 400,000 on me, leaving my stash at the hotel. They asked me for 500,000 and then 400,000, then 300,000, then 200,000. I paid 200,000, and they stole 150,000 from me. I left pant on bed while taking shower with girl. Lesson: Take everything you have with you because they have key to short time room. After FS they dropped me off at bui vien and de tham.[/QUOTE]Emptybigwallet,

I always bring my pants with wallet in it into the bathroom for that exact reason. Two reasons for this. 1. You don't want the girl to see any cash sticking out out you wallet. That can lead to too problems. 2. If a guy or guys do burst in the room you have your wallet right next to you. Also, and most importantly. If guys come in the room. You at least have a chance to quickly put your pants on. Now you are not being shaken down while naked or also while they stand in front of your cloths and block you from reaching them.

Many times in Vietnam if you walk past a short time hotel. There will be a guy offering to call you a girl. He will quote a price and say room is included. He will take care of it. Right, there red flags go up for me. I like to handle everything to try to cut down on chances of problems. I would make sure I pay for the room not him. The guy at the front desk many times can't speak english which is another issue.

I stayed in a nice hotel my last time there. I did find many small hotels that were really cheap. I did not get to look inside the rooms for cleanliness. In the past I also kept my wallet with me at all times. I worry about leaving any money or credit cards in the hotel rooms. I don't know how many Vietnamese hotels have safes. But, I am planning my next trip now. I am going to say even if you have to pay a lot for a hotel with a safe. I feel its worth it. If you get robbed and lose all your cash and credit cards. Who will help you when you have no money. The answer is no one.

Base on common lead from W and another friend, I decided to give Hao Bay a shot. The claim was that it has same caliber of girl as the relocated Lotus.

Made my way there. It's in one of the smaller streets but not overly difficult to find. The awkward thing is that the place is right across of two cafe. Literally an easy stone throw. So most of the dudes sitting there definitely know what you in / out from.

Anyway, beeline into the house. Usher into the room. Got line up. Must say that the quality of girls here are indeed similar caliber as Lotus.

Pick young one with light skin and seemingly large tit. Made my way upstairs to the room. The usual SOP for full service massage parlour. Maybe it's because I'm not super familiar with the place so I wasn't fully engaged like I was at Lotus. To be fair, my first go at Lotus was also standard. It's my second on once I get used to the place and the girls there that I really get my very good experience.

With the girl I chose, I likely won't repeat. Not that she didn't try but as I said, it's normal SOP. Nowadays, I thrive on chemistry and comfort zone I guess. I do see couple other ones worth coming back for. So will return here for sure for other ones. Damage, 800 k VND all-in.

If you need exact location, please PM W who gave me address since my PM here don't work.

Happy punting all.

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If you need exact location, please PM W who gave me address since my PM here don't work.
[/QUOTE]Thanks back to you for letting me know your spot. I haven't gone yet, will let you know what I think when I do. And, actually my friend asked me to be more discreet about that location, so it is not one that I can just share with anyone by PM. So please, people, don't PM me for that one. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Wendella;1803815]Thanks back to you for letting me know your spot. I haven't gone yet, will let you know what I think when I do. And, actually my friend asked me to be more discreet about that location, so it is not one that I can just share with anyone by PM. So please, people, don't PM me for that one. Sorry.[/QUOTE]Understood about discretion that's why I leave it up to you go decide.

Hi W,

You have a great memory.

I was back in HCM a few months ago but didn't report on anything because there wasn't much new except that the prices are a hot higher.

The Kaka girl I saw the previous times has moved on but this place remains amazing. Every time I visit I am begging them to stay open and to keep extending the times. I can't remember the prices but for a 300,000 tip (I think) I managed to get their tops off and get them sucking my nipples.

But the shitty price rise was a bit annoying.

I eneded up spending a bit more time at another place around the corner. It's in a small laneway on the right if you are walking towards kaka from the busy bar on the corner on the left hand side with all the tables outside. The massage place is in a hairdressers on the left side as you go down this lane. You can get a pretty nice girl to rub her pussy up and down you for about 100,000 less of a tip that the kaka girls. She was funny. She said she didn't usually do this stuff. (probably lies but maybe true because it is difficult to get them naked in these places). She was enjoying it a bit and laughing that she was getting wet.

You can make a night of this place. Get a hair cut and an ear clean. Its not one of those upmarket sexy girl hairdressers. Its like a 1970's place. Not nice at all. But the massage rooms are really clean. Cleaner than kaka. And kaka is good.

Talking about ear cleaning. If you can get them just to rub your ear with their little ear tools its better than sex. It is the most relaxing sensual thing on earth. The cleaning is good too until they find a bit of wax attached to some ear hair and then launch an attack to get it free. The pain can last for days.

I'm breaking my ramblings into 2 in case I lose them.

So you have to try ear cleaning if you haven't already. But buy an hour of it and just tell them to poke their tools inside the hole for an hour. Totally amazing. If you can get them to do it while you are in a bed its even better, but a chair is better than nothing.

As for hotels, I found this cheap five start place 10 minutes taxi ride from the kaka street. It has a few entrances and one of them lets you get in with a girl without being seen. Finally there is a decent place that you can take a girl back and sleep with air con, windows and clean sheets. No idea of the name though so I'm not much help. Oops.