Fortaleza

I was in Fortaleza last week. It was horrible, zero mongering scene.

Now it is a normally city for families. Iracema is dead. Zipi is closed, Pirata is open but now it is a restaurant with music. Forro Mambo is closed, Orbita is closed, Armazen is opened only Wednesday but with a few few people. Rate for sex 200 max 250 reais. Nobody know speak English there. I do not recommend Fortaleza to anyone.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2592344]Unfortunately, this has been the viewpoint and posture of the Governo and Prefeitura Municipal de Fortaleza, for some time now. Hence why the Fortaleza thread has dried up somewhat.

BW, specifically can you report on the "closer" or still "open" status of Armazem and / or Zipi Bar?

The thing about google maps / pics / street view, while helpful, you just can't beat [i]"boots-on-the-ground"[/i].

From Google maps it's not clear Zipi Bar / Forro Mombo are permanently closed.

Last I knew of, Armazem (on Wednesdays) wasn't a totally, full-on sex p4p joint and Zipi Bar and Forro Mombo seem to be last men standing. Armazem still looks like its in operation, while a few doors down, Orbita Bar is temporarily closed.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=AlexBoss;2614849]I was in Fortaleza last week. It was horrible, zero mongering scene.

Now it is a normally city for families. Iracema is dead. Zipi is closed, Pirata is open but now it is a restaurant with music. Forro Mambo is closed, Orbita is closed, Armazen is opened only Wednesday but with a few few people. Rate for sex 200 max 250 reais. Nobody know speak English there. I do not recommend Fortaleza to anyone.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the update and intel on the current club openings and closings in Fortaleza. Much appreciated.

This was a thriving P4P destination at one time. Hard to believe the P4P scene in Fortaleza has dropped off, this much. Let's hope it just COVID related and things will pickup again. Unless that is, the Governo and Prefeitura Municipal de Fortaleza, have really blown things up, with regards to the P4P scene, for good?

Was hoping to re-visit, Fortaleza, for the P4P action and a bit of nostalgia. But it looks like I may need to re-think the P4P part of the plan.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2615126]Thanks for the update and intel on the current club openings and closings in Fortaleza. Much appreciated.

This was a thriving P4P destination at one time. Hard to believe the P4P scene in Fortaleza has dropped off, this much. Let's hope it just COVID related and things will pickup again. Unless that is, the Governo and Prefeitura Municipal de Fortaleza, have really blown things up, with regards to the P4P scene, for good?

Was hoping to re-visit, Fortaleza, for the P4P action and a bit of nostalgia. But it looks like I may need to re-think the P4P part of the plan.[/QUOTE]Fortaleza fell off years and years ago. When I first started going to Brazil, I had it on my short list as a place to visit. But then the mongering scene really tanked. I think they got some female politician who shut it down.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2615126]...This was a thriving P4P destination at one time. Hard to believe the P4P scene in Fortaleza has dropped off, this much....[/QUOTE]I am flying there in a week or so. I will report. It seems the local mongering board is active:

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=285&sid=55f6aff581692ba85be7fc7b2ab137a7[/URL]

But mostly Clnicas and Privês.

[QUOTE=The Cane;2615261]Fortaleza fell off years and years ago. When I first started going to Brazil, I had it on my short list as a place to visit. But then the mongering scene really tanked. I think they got some female politician who shut it down.[/QUOTE]

While, Luizianne Lins, hasn't been mayor since December 2012, the effects of that mayoralty has taken its effect.

It would seem, Roberto Cláudio (2013-2020), succeeded her and cleaned up nicely, behind her. I'm just mildly shocked, that ALL venues are now (reportedly) gone, dead, kaput and shutdown permanently.

Fortaleza was one of my favorite P4P destinations. Won't be the same somehow, but I guess there's always good friends, great beaches, dunes, cashew nuts (castanhas) and great seafood to be had, as reasons to still visit.

[QUOTE=John Clayton;2615316]I am flying there in a week or so. I will report. It seems the local mongering board is active:

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=285&sid=55f6aff581692ba85be7fc7b2ab137a7[/URL]

But mostly Clnicas and Privs.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I Look forward to your intel. Hopefully, it's just down to the nuts and beaches...kkk

I'm heading to Fortaleza soon. Anybody knows if the privées on Monsenhor Tabosa 111 is still working? There were no recent information on Gp-guia.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2615316]I am flying there in a week or so. I will report. It seems the local mongering board is active:...[/QUOTE]I made this bigly promise but, in short, I didn't post because it was a complete failure for me. I had all kind of fantasies about what I would do / accomplish on the trip; however, I spent most of my time kiting to the WNW of Fortaleza and completely failed on the mongering part.

1) I drove back through Fortaleza after about a week in the remote WNW with high hopes. As you know, the City used to be a real mongering destination, mostly for Europeans, until about ten years ago. It was centered on Iracema beach and its pier. So I booked what looked to be the closest, decent hotel (with secure parking) to Iracema with the hope that something would be happening or, worst case, I could get an incall. I got to the hotel (hot, tired, fed up with traffic) about 3 pm and they told me, "no visitors". WTF! I said, 'okay, forget about it, I'll go somewhere else', but I'd already paid through [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] or whatever and the refund process looked too difficult. Anyhow, the place was really a dump (with a crappy breakfast, as well), I had a room by the elevator -- don't stay there! I went out on the pier and the sidewalk both at 4 pm and later at 10:30, but didn't see anything resembling P4P. Lot of women dressed like sluts, but I think that's just their normal beachwear.

2) In desperation, I tried to get through to girls with incalls around Beira Mar (the main beachfront road). Seem to be many, many girls with incalls right around there listed Mileroticos and Photoacompanhantes. Long story short, I took an Uber to an apartment building on Avenida da Abolição, expecting a nice apartment and a girl resembling (somewhat) the photo. Instead, I was greeted by two fat working girls in a dark, dingy apartment. I said where is Mary, or whoever it was? They gave me some stupid excuse, said we'll do a threeway for the same price, but my Portuguese is so weak that I couldn't argue. I was also meeting some friends at a nearby churrascuria at eight, so I just went with it. Mistake, horrible, horrible, squalid, horrible. Condom this, 'no amor, not that', etc. I couldn't nut from fucking and when one of them was giving me a HJ, I cut my leg on the sharp edge of the bed -- in sum, the worst. Left feeling ripped off, humiliated, stupid, etc.

3) After a brief sojourn south to Aracati, I went back to the very remote beaches past Jericoacoara. I had turned on Tinder (the free version) just to see what would happen, where I posted a real picture, my real age (late 70's) and something like,"retired northamerican with money looking for fun". Surprisingly, I got some matches even way out there, but it would have required effort and some driving. Also, I was staying in little, intimate, European owned pousadas, not big, anonymous hotels (weren't any), so I couldn't have done anything anyway.

4) I got hurt kiting and decided to bail out early. There were clearly some Tinder based gdps in Jijoca de Jericoacoara, so I tried to stop there to hook up with one of them, but it was a holiday weekend and there were no rooms to be had at all.

5) I returned to Fortaleza a couple of days before my flight and stayed in a posh, anonymous beachfront hotel, Gran Mareiro Hotel (excellent breakfast) on Praia so Futuro. Free Tinder (location based) just lit up. I had at least 30 matches, all with young women, who messaged,'Ol, meu amor. Quando podemos ligar?, etc', which I took as meaning that they were pure GDP. Easily could have brought girls up to the room, but I was too injured and old to make the effort.

So, in sum, a total failure with no real useful information except avoid Hotel Maredomus, use Tinder and don't be as old as I am.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2634917]I made this bigly promise but, in short, I didn't post because it was a complete failure for me. I had all kind of fantasies about what I would do / accomplish on the trip; however, I spent most of my time kiting to the WNW of Fortaleza and completely failed on the mongering part.

In desperation, I tried to get through to girls with incalls around Beira Mar (the main beachfront road). Seem to be many, many girls with incalls right around there listed Mileroticos and Photoacompanhantes. Long story short, I took an Uber to an apartment building on Avenida da Abolio, expecting a nice apartment and a girl resembling (somewhat) the photo. Instead, I was greeted by two fat working girls in a dark, dingy apartment. I said where is Mary, or whoever it was? They gave me some stupid excuse, said we'll do a threeway for the same price, but my Portuguese is so weak that I couldn't argue. I was also meeting some friends at a nearby churrascuria at eight, so I just went with it. Mistake, horrible, horrible, squalid, horrible. Condom this, 'no amor, not that', etc. I couldn't nut from fucking and when one of them was giving me a HJ, I cut my leg on the sharp edge of the bed -- in sum, the worst. Left feeling ripped off, humiliated, stupid, etc.

So, in sum, a total failure with no real useful information except avoid Hotel Maredomus, use Tinder and don't be as old as I am.[/QUOTE]John Clayton took one for the team LOLOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2634917]Jericoacoara[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. Is Jericoacoara easy to get to? Do you rent equipment there?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2634950]Thank you for the report. Is Jericoacoara easy to get to? Do you rent equipment there?[/QUOTE]I understand that in the national park itself there is no kiting. It's a good 4 or 5 hours from FOR. Most people I met got there by pickup truck / taxi from the airport -- I think it was about $125 US per person each way. Problem is, if your gear gets delayed (as it often does flying up from GRU) and you take a pre arranged taxi with the rest of your group -- then you have to arrange to get it schlepped up to Jeri. I went with a shit ton of gear, which got delayed in FOR. Luckily, I was not too far and it came the next day.

Prea is the next town to the east with onshore / sideshore beach break. Tatajuba is just to the west, but apparently the road was too bad for my rental car so I didn't go there. It is on a river mouth, which makes it a better spot. There are rentals and kite schools at all the bigger spots.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2634917]I made this bigly promise but, in short, I didn't post because it was a complete failure for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks, JC. An interesting and entertaining report. I never stayed in Hotel Maredomus, just passed by and informed about their guest policy. That's one of the few hotels in that area that doesn't allow guests. Aracati (maybe Canoa Quebrada) and Jericoacoara. Nice beaches. In Jeri there is usually lots of beautiful girls, but propably hard to pickup if you're in the late 70's.

I was interested to know if Zipis and the privées om; omsemhor Tabosa 11 really closed. I guess I'll find out in a few days.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2634961]I understand that in the national park itself there is no kiting. It's a good 4 or 5 hours from FOR. Most people I met got there by pickup truck / taxi from the airport -- I think it was about $125 US per person each way. Problem is, if your gear gets delayed (as it often does flying up from GRU) and you take a pre arranged taxi with the rest of your group -- then you have to arrange to get it schlepped up to Jeri. I went with a shit ton of gear, which got delayed in FOR. Luckily, I was not too far and it came the next day.

Prea is the next town to the east with onshore / sideshore beach break. Tatajuba is just to the west, but apparently the road was too bad for my rental car so I didn't go there. It is on a river mouth, which makes it a better spot. There are rentals and kite schools at all the bigger spots.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the details. Just a side note, I read there are now regular flights going to Bonaire from MDE so that is good news too.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2635050]...but propably hard to pickup if you're in the late 70's...[/QUOTE]Yeah, probably (sigh).

Unfortunately John Clayton confirms my opinion, namely the death of Fortaleza as a city of sex. And this for years, since all clubs in Iracema and Beira Mar and av. Abolico there are no more prostitutes. I warn anyone who plans to go to Fortaleza for sex that the travel money will be thrown in the trash.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2634917]I made this bigly promise but, in short, I didn't post because it was a complete failure for me. I had all kind of fantasies about what I would do / accomplish on the trip; however, I spent most of my time kiting to the WNW of Fortaleza and completely failed on the mongering part.

1) I drove back through Fortaleza after about a week in the remote WNW with high hopes. As you know, the City used to be a real mongering destination, mostly for Europeans, until about ten years ago. It was centered on Iracema beach and its pier. So I booked what looked to be the closest, decent hotel (with secure parking) to Iracema with the hope that something would be happening or, worst case, I could get an incall. I got to the hotel (hot, tired, fed up with traffic) about 3 pm and they told me, "no visitors". WTF! I said, 'okay, forget about it, I'll go somewhere else', but I'd already paid through [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] or whatever and the refund process looked too difficult. Anyhow, the place was really a dump (with a crappy breakfast, as well), I had a room by the elevator -- don't stay there! I went out on the pier and the sidewalk both at 4 pm and later at 10:30, but didn't see anything resembling P4P. Lot of women dressed like sluts, but I think that's just their normal beachwear.

2) In desperation, I tried to get through to girls with incalls around Beira Mar (the main beachfront road). Seem to be many, many girls with incalls right around there listed Mileroticos and Photoacompanhantes. Long story short, I took an Uber to an apartment building on Avenida da Abolio, expecting a nice apartment and a girl resembling (somewhat) the photo. Instead, I was greeted by two fat working girls in a dark, dingy apartment. I said where is Mary, or whoever it was? They gave me some stupid excuse, said we'll do a threeway for the same price, but my Portuguese is so weak that I couldn't argue. I was also meeting some friends at a nearby churrascuria at eight, so I just went with it. Mistake, horrible, horrible, squalid, horrible. Condom this, 'no amor, not that', etc. I couldn't nut from fucking and when one of them was giving me a HJ, I cut my leg on the sharp edge of the bed -- in sum, the worst. Left feeling ripped off, humiliated, stupid, etc..[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately John Clayton confirms my opinion, the death of Fortaleza as a city of sex. And this for years, since all clubs in Iracema are closed and in Beira Mar and av. Abolicão there are no more street prostitutes. I warn anyone who plans to go to Fortaleza for sex that the travel money will be thrown in the trash.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2634917]I made this bigly promise but, in short, I didn't post because it was a complete failure for me. I had all kind of fantasies about what I would do / accomplish on the trip; however, I spent most of my time kiting to the WNW of Fortaleza and completely failed on the mongering part.

1) I drove back through Fortaleza after about a week in the remote WNW with high hopes. As you know, the City used to be a real mongering destination, mostly for Europeans, until about ten years ago. It was centered on Iracema beach and its pier. So I booked what looked to be the closest, decent hotel (with secure parking) to Iracema with the hope that something would be happening or, worst case, I could get an incall. I got to the hotel (hot, tired, fed up with traffic) about 3 pm and they told me, "no visitors". WTF! I said, 'okay, forget about it, I'll go somewhere else', but I'd already paid through [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] or whatever and the refund process looked too difficult. Anyhow, the place was really a dump (with a crappy breakfast, as well), I had a room by the elevator -- don't stay there! I went out on the pier and the sidewalk both at 4 pm and later at 10:30, but didn't see anything resembling P4P. Lot of women dressed like sluts, but I think that's just their normal beachwear..[/QUOTE]