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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I am over 40. But I have enjoyed licking ass since I first started licking pussy. But it has to be the right ass. I am not so into licking the browner, hairy-er variety of ass. It has to be the more smooth and "clean" variety that some girls have. Then I'll bury my tongue right up as far as it will go.

And I am not so into ass fucking. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. But it has to be in the flow of the sex and not just ass fucking for ass fucking's sake. I very rarely would have anal with a service provider as I find that many of them offer it as a way to increase the bill and not because they really, really love anal. For me this is an important ingredient.[/QUOTE]I myself am merely over 30. But I'm working on 40...

I too enjoy rimming a nice, clean asshole. Aida's was perfect - small, round, pale, clean and very responsive :) It's not a favourite pastime for me, if the girl isn't into it, but if she is, I will dive for it!

I happen to be rather into ass fucking. When a girl loves it, like my wife does, then it's the best thing sex has to offer. If she has a nice ass, that is. But I suppose I could be into it even if the girl does it only for money. I would actually dearly love to give Conchetta of Artemis a good, long ass-fuck - particularly if she wasn't really into it. But that is maybe just a daydream, and it wouldn't be very good if she didn't enjoy it. Who knows.

Angus: You like it when girls enjoy themselves just as I do. I know for a fact that many girls enjoy a good, strong vibrator even more than my tongue and fingers. Have you ever brought a vibrator to a session, and asked that the girl use it on herself while you have "ferkehr"?

[quote=charles browne]and perhaps going for the freshest faces ain't such a hot strategy, if you're looking for gfe and relaxed service. young girls are perhaps more nervous and uncomfortable service providers? what do you other mongers here think about that?[/quote]

there are no hard & fast rules for this i would say. in general you are right about a bit older being perhaps a bit more relaxed. but then there are always exceptions this rule. one has to play it by ear.

for me, late 20's seems to be the age when the perfect balance of youthful beauty & experience is to be found. but, as with my recent experience [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], i am always happy to find a girl who is in her early 20's.

true 18 year old service providers are exceeding rare.

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Angus: You like it when girls enjoy themselves just as I do. I know for a fact that many girls enjoy a good, strong vibrator even more than my tongue and fingers. Have you ever brought a vibrator to a session, and asked that the girl use it on herself while you have "ferkehr"?[/QUOTE]

I have never done this. Bringing one's own vibrator would probably be a bit off for most girls as there are health considerations with vibrators. The girl might rightly wonder-where has this vibrator been?

But I am sure that if you asked, many girls (many ads mention Vibratorspiel as an extra) would be happy to provide their own and use it how ever you want. But I imagine this would be charged as an extra at most bordellos. Personally I am not so into watching a girl diddle herself with a vibrator that I would pay extra for the privilege.

I also imagine that if you built up a good rapport with one of the Artemis girls, became a good regular customer, that she might be persuaded to bring one into the room. Not sure if this would elicit an extra charge or not. I guess that would depend on how much she likes you etc.

I have also had escorts who brought along their toys and included them in the session as part of the normal service.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Bringing one's own vibrator would probably be a bit off for most girls as there are health considerations with vibrators. The girl might rightly wonder-where has this vibrator been?[/QUOTE]I was actually thinking more in lines of bringing out the heavy artillery; something like the Hitachi Magic Wand: [url]http://www.condom.com/vh-magicwnd.html[/url]

If the girl is concerned about hygiene, you can put a condom over the head of the massager, and it is for use on her clit only - while you penetrate her vaginally or anally. It usually produces spectacular orgasms within minutes, which is very enjoyable to me. But I haven't suggested it to a service provider, only in private.

I'm booked for Berlin around the May Day weekend, which I'm really thrilled about considering I haven't visited this lovely city since last autumn (Frankfurt has been my destination of choice as of late for gratification purposes).

I'll definitely be spending most of my time in Berlin at Artemis, and I'm interested, not to say eager, to find out whether my two favourite girls Romy (Spain) and Celina (Lithuania) will be there.

Furthermore, I've never visited an "ordinary" brothel in Berlin, but I've been drooling over the pictures of Adriana at Monrouge for quite some time, so I'll most likely be paying that establishment a first time visit (Monrouge also being conveniently close to my favourite drinking place das Mommsen Eck). I've tried to do my homework about Monrouge/Adriana, but I would appreciate it very much if someone (maybe resident Berlin expert Angus) could correct me where I'm wrong and fill in the blanks:

If you go to Monrouge before 16. 00 on a weekday, you get a 1 hour session for € 100 (and € 140 after 16. 00 I think). FO is an extra which costs either € 20 or € 50 more, I'm not sure. You can just ring the doorbell and they let you in and you get to pick from the line-up whoever is available. Is it also possible/advisable to call ahead and pre-book? If the girl you're looking for isn't available at the moment, are you allowed to wait for her on the premises or do you have to pick another one or leave? I gather Adriana is a day-worker, so at what hours is she most likely to be present? Which girls come recommended if she isn't present (I've got Nicky's name pegged, but I believe she only works evenings/nights)? And I guess there will be no hard feelings if there's no one else to my liking, I say Nein Danke and leave?

One other thing I've never done in Berlin, is to visit a Sex Kino. Most likely I won't be doing it this time either, but I'm a little curious about them and can't rule it out entirely. Can someone give some info on these sordid places? Do you sit in a large porn cinema watching porn like some raincoater and girls prowl the aisles offering their services? What services do they offer; Französich mit or ohne, or the whole package? Is the dirty deed done right in the seat, or do they have special rooms for that, and what's the damage for the different services? And how do these girls look (not too good I would imagine)?

And finally, I understand there can be quite a lot of Krawalle in Berlin on May Day. Do these disturbances spill over to Charlottenburg or is this part of town as peaceful as always? I would hate to get caught up in something, z. B. Artemis coming under siege from some left wing lunatics for being "a place for the degenerate exploitation and repression of women" or something.

Thank you in advance for any answers.

Ozzy

Hello,

I´m new in this forum.

I´m planning to travel to Berlin next june and I´m intererested in find a girl who offers fisting anal (to introduce my all hand into her ass). May your recomended some girl or some place to find her.

Fernando

i finally decided to pay a visit to salon prestige while on my way home from work last friday. since my german is limited i was a little leary from the earlier report, but it was on the bus route, i was in need of some serious relaxation, so i figured what the heck. am i ever glad i dropped in.

between google and the isaw map i knew the basic location so once there i just followed the sign to the door around the corner. the buzzer is all the way at the bottom but i was rewarded quickly with a "click" of the door. wondered down the hall to the first door on the left, another buzzer. finally the madam lets me in and invites me to follow her (no vocals, but i'm sure the hungry look in my eyes said all that was necessary). it seems i got the "african room" from the looks of the furniture. she asked if i wants something to drink and then left to fetch the girls. i'm a big fan of the "fish bowls" you find in similar establishments in asia because you can scan the herd for what ever floats your boat, and get some idea of who looks the most interested in your business. here instead i settled into the big chair to do the "individual interview." one at a time the first three girls came in and introduced herself said hello and left. the selection wasn't too bad and i was thinking taking rowena since i like them svelt with long hair when anni, an import from thailand walks in and introduces herself. she just had this air about her that demanded "take me now." i had to wade through two more girls that i barely remember before the madame came back and asked who i was interested in.

anni returned shortly with my cola and asked how long i wanted to stay and something about what options i wanted. i managed to tell her i wanted the half hour and agreed to whatever options she was talking about. paid her the €100 which seemed reasonable and she left the room. i immediately got undressed and was again sitting in the chair when she came back ready to get started. her first order of business was to position me on the edge of the jacuzzi were she preceded to give junior the once over with a wash cloth. once that was out of the way the fun began. she redefined sensuous hugs and had no problem with my exploration of her firm body. anni knows when to tease and when to go with the flow.

with most of the other girls 20 minutes is usually over kill, but anni kept building juniors interest without trying to rush things along. i came close to losing during some heavy 69 action, but she sensed that it was time to move to the next level and she pulled back a bit. junior got his rain coat and anni road like a cowgirl competing for the gold. after a quick cleanup anni finished up with one of the best massages i have gotten outside of asia.

at no point did i feel rushed and when i checked my watch we were a bit over time, but it was never mentioned. just a request to ask for her the next time i stop in. a request i will be happy to comply with, though i may see about adding some jacuzzi play into the mix.

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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I was actually thinking more in lines of bringing out the heavy artillery; something like the Hitachi Magic Wand: [url]http://www.condom.com/vh-magicwnd.html[/url]

If the girl is concerned about hygiene, you can put a condom over the head of the massager, and it is for use on her clit only - while you penetrate her vaginally or anally. It usually produces spectacular orgasms within minutes, which is very enjoyable to me. But I haven't suggested it to a service provider, only in private.[/QUOTE]

That certainly is a humdinger;-)

Your guess is as good as mine as to whether you could get a service provider to accept your bringing that to a session.

What I imagine is that it would require a bit of fore warning, i.e. mention it and extoll it's virtues (feature/benefit in sales speak) in one session and bring it to to next. Just hauling it out of your bag with a girl that you have just met may not work. Women, even pros, are funny that way IME.

Hi,

Much of what you ask is actually addressed in various posts in the back pages of this thread. But as I have a bit of time this morning...


[QUOTE=Ozzy Ozzman]I'll definitely be spending most of my time in Berlin at Artemis, and I'm interested, not to say eager, to find out whether my two favourite girls Romy (Spain) and Celina (Lithuania) will be there.[/Quote]

Best post this question in the FKK Germany,Artemis thread. I am an all to frequent guest at Artemis but have not run across either of these two ladies, at least by name. Maybe a description?



[QUOTE=Ozzy Ozzman]If you go to Monrouge before 16. 00 on a weekday, you get a 1 hour session for € 100 (and € 140 after 16. 00 I think). FO is an extra which costs either € 20 or € 50 more, I'm not sure. You can just ring the doorbell and they let you in and you get to pick from the line-up whoever is available. Is it also possible/advisable to call ahead and pre-book? If the girl you're looking for isn't available at the moment, are you allowed to wait for her on the premises or do you have to pick another one or leave? I gather Adriana is a day-worker, so at what hours is she most likely to be present? Which girls come recommended if she isn't present (I've got Nicky's name pegged, but I believe she only works evenings/nights)? And I guess there will be no hard feelings if there's no one else to my liking, I say Nein Danke and leave?[/Quote]

Adriana is certainly a good choice for a fairly quiet (at least with me) GFE. Though I must ad that, again with me, it took her a session or two to warm up.

And your info on MR is more or less accurate. A normal (in normal hours that is) session cost 130. FO=+20, FT=+30 (Adriana does FO but not FT), I think anal is 50. Adriana most definitely does not do anal.

And you will find Adriana there Mon-Fri (possibly some Saturdays) until about 16:00-17:00. She has told me that she never works evening and likes the regular daytime hours. Calling ahead is both possible and if you want a particular girl, advisable. You could, I'm sure, just stop by and wait. There is a bar at MR but the drinks are bordello prices i.e. expensive. I have never seen any one but girls at the bar and imagine that it gets more use at night.

All bordellos in Berlin work more or less the same. You either call and make a "Termin" or you just drop by and choose from the parade. I have very often checked out the girls and found no one to my liking and left. I can only remember once where I experienced any attitude or pressure for doing this. It is an accepted practice. Some bordellos (Liberty, Salon Prestige) do not publish their appointment (one that will be answered live) phone number on their web site. So you have to go at least once to get the number and then have in your possession a bordello business card. Not so good if you are a married man. Wives seem to have a nose for finding such things I hear.

Alternates to Adriana (not the same body type but very, very hot IMO) would be Crissy. But...she is often "on vacation" and I am not sure of her hours. But I have seen her once during the day for the special.


[QUOTE=Ozzy Ozzman]One other thing I've never done in Berlin, is to visit a Sex Kino. Most likely I won't be doing it this time either, but I'm a little curious about them and can't rule it out entirely. Can someone give some info on these sordid places? Do you sit in a large porn cinema watching porn like some raincoater and girls prowl the aisles offering their services? What services do they offer; Französich mit or ohne, or the whole package? Is the dirty deed done right in the seat, or do they have special rooms for that, and what's the damage for the different services? And how do these girls look (not too good I would imagine)?
[/Quote]

That is more or less how it works. Services offered-hand jobs in the kino, Covered french (very, very very rarely FO/FT and only in very
seedy Neuköln Kinos-beware) or there are small rooms in the back if you want full service. Prices vary a bit but are not so expensive especially the service in the kino seats-perhaps 25-30 Euros for a bj that can last about 15 mins. before the lady starts to complain;-) Half an hour sex & covered french in a room will run you usually 50 Euros. If any place tires to charge you more than this I would get up and leave as they are trying to rip you off. This can happen (I hear) in the more tourist-y type establishments in and around Stuttgarter Platz with obvious non-locals.

Sex Kinos are IMO not really worth it except as a dirty thrill. The bj is never that good and usually ends mostly with a hj. The girls are very often,well, ugly. And when you leave you (well at least when I leave) feel sort of dirty and regretful. -And- I have experienced some pretty good kino sex-specifically a couple of years back with one woman at a sex kino near where I live. She was just a great fuck.

But in the end I prefer the cleanliness of a place like Liberty and the sex kino is really not much cheaper when you ad in the entrance fee-usually 5 Euros.

[QUOTE=Ozzy Ozzman]And finally, I understand there can be quite a lot of Krawalle in Berlin on May Day. Do these disturbances spill over to Charlottenburg or is this part of town as peaceful as always? I would hate to get caught up in something, z. B. Artemis coming under siege from some left wing lunatics for being "a place for the degenerate exploitation and repression of women" or something.[/Quote]

In my five years in Berlin I have never even seen any trouble on May Day (I live in Schöneberg) and can say with complete confidence that unless you go looking for it neither will you.

If you have not already done so I also suggest that you check out my Berlin Guide. It was written last summer but most of the info found there is still more or less accurate I think.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

Have fun and don’t forget (as most do) to report back your findings and experiences as a way of giving back to this valuable free resource.

AM

I found this today on the homepage of one of the bordello website (Tomsen). With the help of an on line translator I gather that there is an important court date coming up, involving Salon Prestige, but possibly affecting all Berlin apartment bordellos.

[url]http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/berlin/detail_dpa_20934600.php[/url]

[url]http://www.busd.de/index.php?id=103[/url]

If anyone with better German skills than I can give a short synopsis it would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Penvagano]Hello,

I´m new in this forum.

I´m planning to travel to Berlin next june and I´m intererested in find a girl who offers fisting anal (to introduce my all hand into her ass). May your recomended some girl or some place to find her.

Fernando[/QUOTE]

I just found this in another thread (Essen). If you are willing to make a side trip to Essen you might find what you are looking for here.

[url]http://www.pussyclub-essen.de/[/url]


And n Berlin I think if you are going to find it anyway you will find it here.

[url]http://www.sexgeile-modelle.de/[/url]

specifically

[url]http://www.sexgeile-modelle.de/maria.html[/url]

No personal experience here. Just a hunch and I could be wrong.

AM

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]I read in the paper about a "pussy club" in Berlin which offers food, drinks and all the girls for 70€ as a special off peak time offer now that it is a recession. Anyone know what and where this place is?[/QUOTE]
I've not been but from my understanding its a PT, a Partytreff.

Pay one price, stay as long as you want, f_ as much as you want with whomever you want.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]I've not been but from my understanding its a PT, a Partytreff.

Pay one price, stay as long as you want, f_ as much as you want with whomever you want.[/QUOTE]

Not to be confused with the Pussy Club in the link I just posted below. Same name but different clubs I think.

There are at least a couple of reports on the Berlin Pussy Club/partytreff somewhere further back in this thread and perhaps in the RoD thread.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I found this today on the homepage of one of the bordello website (Tomsen). With the help of an on line translator I gather that there is an important court date coming up, involving Salon Prestige, but possibly affecting all Berlin apartment bordellos.

[url]http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/berlin/detail_dpa_20934600.php[/url]

[url]http://www.busd.de/index.php?id=103[/url]

If anyone with better German skills than I can give a short synopsis it would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]


You understood it quite correctly..!!

Apparently the "Bauamt" in Berlin (some kind of municipal construction/building authotity) started to arbitrarily send notifications to Appartment Brothels in Berlin around 2006. Some establishments were "threatened" to lose their license on short notice due to certain "side-line disturbances" or implications that such establishments would have. But the argument is that most of these appartments bordellos are present at their premises for 20 years or more and there never have been complaints by neighbors or anything.

Now Salon Prestige will have a court date on May 5th, which is hoped to be precedent for the majority of well-run establishments.

It seems maybe some conservative bureaucrat achieved a high-tide in one of these authorities and played it out tough. Typical for German authorities and courts now is that these things can take years. But the expectationis that the court session will help to reduce uncertainty. Some had feared the city is planning to abolish the decentralized brothel environment and move towards solutions like in Hamburg or Frankfurt where establishments in appartments are concentrated to smaller areas.

Let's see what will happen...

Have a good Sunday,
The AF

[QUOTE=The AF]You understood it quite correctly..!!

Apparently the "Bauamt" in Berlin (some kind of municipal construction/building authotity) started to arbitrarily send notifications to Appartment Brothels in Berlin around 2006. Some establishments were "threatened" to lose their license on short notice due to certain "side-line disturbances" or implications that such establishments would have. But the argument is that most of these appartments bordellos are present at their premises for 20 years or more and there never have been complaints by neighbors or anything.

Now Salon Prestige will have a court date on May 5th, which is hoped to be precedent for the majority of well-run establishments.

It seems maybe some conservative bureaucrat achieved a high-tide in one of these authorities and played it out tough. Typical for German authorities and courts now is that these things can take years. But the expectationis that the court session will help to reduce uncertainty. Some had feared the city is planning to abolish the decentralized brothel environment and move towards solutions like in Hamburg or Frankfurt where establishments in appartments are concentrated to smaller areas.

Let's see what will happen...

Have a good Sunday,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Thanks AF. Let's "press our thumbs" for a favorable outcome. But as you
say, for anything to happen could take years. And in the mean time the guy leading the charge could be photographed coming out of KD-that is if American conservative politicians are anything to go by.

And there is always Artimis...