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[QUOTE=Pratik87; 1398915]Alright alright lets stop all this bickering and move on to the good stuff. Time for a report.
All in all it was def. A fun time and will def. Be back in Sosua at some point in my life. Def. Is a magical place![/QUOTE]Good report, thanks for reporting!
[QUOTE=Pratik87;1398915]A Didn't take me long to pick out two cute spinners I wanted. Both of them were friends so decided for the happy hour. Being tired and drunk help with that decision. Well got back to my room and have to say the happy hour sucked. The two girls wouldn't interact with each other. Just gave me blowjob and both of them would take turns going to the bathroom while I fucked the other. Very disappointed. Was expecting a lot more.[/QUOTE]Good report. If you want a threesome where the girls have lesbian sex together, it is possible, but you are not going to get it by signing girls up for a "happy hour". (A happy hour, in its original sense, refers to two drinks for the price of one.)
To get a lesbian threesome, you need to first find one girl who is up for that and then work with her to find the second girl. You could try a script like this:
Chica: "Senor, do you want a chica?"
You: "No thanks, I have a novia"
Chica: "Where is she now?"
You: "She is in Santo Domingo. She is coming in a couple of days, so I will wait for her."
Chica: "So why not go with me? I am here tonight and she will never know."
You: "Because she likes toto too and we get girls for threesomes. So I don't bother to session with single chicas"
Chica: "But, wow, I like to do chicas too! So how about it?"
Bingo!
But more likely she won't be interested. So you run the script on a few more chicas, and maybe you still don't get a bite, but these girls all talk, and more than likely the next night some girl comes up to you and tells you she likes going down on chicas, and you can go from there.
I think a good threesome is doable in Sosua but chances are slim off of two street girls unless they know each other well and have done this before. However, the risk is probably not worth the reward if you come across a duo that will say anything you want to hear just to take them both back for your dinero. You saw the result, they take turns fucking while the other is probably trying to rob you.
I think the best and safest way to pull this off would be from two passions or cmp girls. First find one that you're into or have had a good session with before. Ask how she feels about chicas and who her friends in the bar are. Chances are these girls at these clubs have seen a few threesomes and are more comfortable with some girls over others. Tell her to call her friend over if she's attractive to you and then discuss everything you expect them to do. To seal the deal have them kiss each other to gauge how game they are. A weak kiss will turn into a weak session. A nasty choking on each others tongues kiss will probably give. A green light. It's going to be more expensive but their not going to walk out on you or try to run a scam involving policia. Two chicas words against yours and you're probably going to be running out of funds real fast. Plus, there is a much more diminished chance that they will be looking to rob you. 3000 pesos to two girls on the street with lame performance vs. 4500 at passions for safety peace of mind and a porno-style threesome is not a lot of difference in money for two possibly completely different scenarios.
The only way I'd do a threesome in Sosua is with girls from passions or cmp and or, with a girl I've already established a very good repoir with from regular sessions and a good Amiga of hers. This way she knows she'll be losing out on future dinero if she brings a girl that tries any funny shit. But very hard to set up on shorter trips.
I'll be testing this theory out next Sosua trip at passions and with my bartender Amiga if she's still around and worth spending time with.
A good 3 some is a rare and precious thing. I was fortunate to have a bi novia who liked chicas to. Every time we had a session it was amazing. She held nothing back. She wanted to cum and did everything possible to make it happen. Talk to girls to see if they are down with chicas. Often they will lie but when you find the right one stick with her and enjoy the moments In Sosua happy ours are happy for the girls. Same money half the work. Some of the Haitians girls are bi. You just never know. You have really talk and observe.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1398998]Good report. If you want a threesome where the girls have lesbian sex together, it is possible, but you are not going to get it by signing girls up for a "happy hour". (A happy hour, in its original sense, refers to two drinks for the price of one.)
To get a lesbian threesome, you need to first find one girl who is up for that and then work with her to find the second girl. You could try a script like this:
Chica: "Senor, do you want a chica?"
You: "No thanks, I have a novia"
Chica: "Where is she now?"
You: "She is in Santo Domingo. She is coming in a couple of days, so I will wait for her."
Chica: "So why not go with me? I am here tonight and she will never know."
You: "Because she likes toto too and we get girls for threesomes. So I don't bother to session with single chicas"
Chica: "But, wow, I like to do chicas too! So how about it?"
Bingo!
But more likely she won't be interested. So you run the script on a few more chicas, and maybe you still don't get a bite, but these girls all talk, and more than likely the next night some girl comes up to you and tells you she likes going down on chicas, and you can go from there.[/QUOTE]
I did ask a couple of girls for threesome's after even though I was put off by the first experience. My plan was to basically ask two chicas who where obvious friends. Thought I would have better luck that way. I was actually surprised by how many chicas rejected the offer of threesome's. I thought they would do anything for money but a lot of them gave me a disgusted look when I asked them. The chicas that were down I could just tell by looking in their faces they were just trying to make a quick buck. Same look the first girls had when I asked them for happy hour. I learn quick!
[QUOTE=OldKool;1399053]A good 3 some is a rare and precious thing. I was fortunate to have a bi novia who liked chicas to. Every time we had a session it was amazing. She held nothing back. She wanted to cum and did everything possible to make it happen. Talk to girls to see if they are down with chicas. Often they will lie but when you find the right one stick with her and enjoy the moments In Sosua happy ours are happy for the girls. Same money half the work. Some of the Haitians girls are bi. You just never know. You have really talk and observe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;1399053]A good 3 some is a rare and precious thing. I was fortunate to have a bi novia who liked chicas to. Every time we had a session it was amazing. She held nothing back. She wanted to cum and did everything possible to make it happen. Talk to girls to see if they are down with chicas. Often they will lie but when you find the right one stick with her and enjoy the moments In Sosua happy ours are happy for the girls. Same money half the work. Some of the Haitians girls are bi. You just never know. You have really talk and observe.[/QUOTE]I've had many good three-somes (Duplas) and even a few excellent foursomes (Triplas) in Brasil. However, I've been frustrated in finding the same experience in other countries.
Good report, I had a few threesomes in Nairobi and Kampala. My trick for threesomes is to find a girl from strip club. Strip clubs girls are more comfortable interacting with each other. Most of those girls have sucked other girls before.
[QUOTE=Pratik87; 1398915]Alright alright lets stop all this bickering and move on to the good stuff. Time for a report.
I just got back from Sosua last week. It was my first trip to Sosua and it def. Everything says it is. First thing I learned from my first trip is that 7 days is wayyyy too much for Sosua. I don't know how some people are there for 10-14 days but for me after 5 days I was just shooting blanks and magic of Sosua started to wear off. I mean if there were other things to do in Sosua other then just going to the beach and fucking then I can understand. 5 day vacation is all you need for this place.
So I got in on Tuesday afternoon and dropped my bags off at my hotel (By the way I stayed at Casa Cayena. I read there were a lot of issues about Casa Cayena on this forum recently. My stay there was pleasant. Close to the strip and the beach. Nothing stolen. Would def. Stay there again). So after I dropped my bags off I went straight to the bars as their was a big soccer match I wanted to catch. Got to say it was pretty exciting the first time waking down that famous block of Pedro clisante. Girls were already chilling out in La Rumba staring you down as you walk by. Well after an exciting match and 10 beers down I was ready for my first taster of Sosua. So off I went to La Rumba. Didn't take me long to pick out two cute spinners I wanted. Both of them were friends so decided for the happy hour. Being tired and drunk help with that decision. Well got back to my room and have to say the happy hour sucked. The two girls wouldn't interact with each other. Just gave me blowjob and both of them would take turns going to the bathroom while I fucked the other. Very disappointed. Was expecting a lot more. So that was my one and only time I tired happy hour on my trip. So paid them $1500 each and kicked them out of my room and went to bed to get rest for the night.
So woke up around 11 and showered and made my way to D-latin. Man the first time you walk into D-Latin it is def. A sight to see. Fucking you do feel like a rock star cause everyone girl in there eyes you down as you walk by. Haha. Fucking hilarious. So started my drinking and partying. Danced with a couple of girls but one caught my eye from the start. Brazilian face with a Brazilian booty. Ohh I had to have her. So brought her over and agreed to $3000 TLN. By the way thankfully I read this forum before cause all these girls start off at $4000 when they know they are talking to an American and never seen before. Got back to my room and WOW. This was the Sosua I was hoping to see. She sucked and fucked straight out a porn movie. Went for 3 rounds before calling it a night. That was a good Day 1![/QUOTE]
I have limited monger experience and only in expensive places like CR, but surely if Blackbeards is 1500 ST & 3000 TLN, Passions is 2500-3500 TLN and CMP being 2500 ST and 5000 TLN (not sure why anyone would go there for TLN) and from what I read in other places Field of Dreams sets the limit at 1600 ST & 3000 TLN as well. A freelancer should never be making more than that. Aren't those places the "top of the market" (either as it corresponds) and the prices have basically been set.
If I'm going to be paying a freelancer 3000 for TLN I'd much rather just take a motoconcho, go into passions and pull out a reliable chica who won't either a) try to scam me or be) pull some shit and try to leave early. Unless she's a girl I [I]need[/I] To have, why bother. If I wanted a hamburger and I can go to Burger King and pay the same much as an unknown joint, I at least know Burger King has some quality control. It's not necessarily a cheapness thing, just that I want to be assured of no drama. Also, I find negotiating to hinder the GFE.
From the opinion of the guys who frequent the area, would a chica rather work freelance or rather work in a place like Blackbeard's, Passions, CMP etc? Seems to me from board reports that ironically freelance clubs are rip-offs based on tourists who never did the research to see about places like Blackbeard's and Passions and therefore jacking up that area of the market. Or maybe Blackbeard's and CMP have much less desirable girls?
Seems to me like ST should never exceed 1500 (and should really be about 1000) and TLN should never be more than 2500 and increasingly lower as the night goes on. But, can't wait to get on the ground and see for myself. Should hopefully be there in April!
[QUOTE=Cngrgo;1399256]. freelance clubs are rip-offs based on tourists who never did the research to see about places like Blackbeard's and Passions and therefore jacking up that area of the market.[/QUOTE]Some interesting points in your post to which I might return if others don't comment on them first, but what do you mean by "freelance clubs"? That seems like a self-contradiction. If you mean bars and dance-clubs where guys pick up freelancers, then it cannot be the bars or clubs which are the "rippers-off" as they have no influence on the prices the freelance girls charge. (They may rip you off on prices for drinks but then so do Passions and CMP, and I think you are only talking about chica prices?)
I also disagree with the latter part of your sentence. There are exceptions to everything, but the general trend is for newbies to start at Blackbeards and Passions, etc, and gravitate to freelancers on later trips when they have more knowledge. They do so to save money and to find a less "professional" type of girl. The other group who may go straight to freelancers is weekend warriors who have done the research, or think they have, by word-of-mouth recommendations from friends and acquaintances where they live and work. So more or less the opposite to what you are suggesting.
It doesn't take any research to find out about Blackbeards, or Passion, or Cristal or Club Cocoa. Every confused-looking newbie will be pounced on by tigueres and taxi-drivers only too eager to introduce them to such places and get their cut.
It does take some research or, at least, some experience to be able to find better and cheaper freelance girls than in those places.
That is when someone becomes a "real" monger. Whether that is a badge one of which one should be proud is a different discussion.
Your comments on pricing are spot-on.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1399275]Some interesting points in your post to which I might return if others don't comment on them first, but what do you mean by "freelance clubs"? That seems like a self-contradiction. If you mean bars and dance-clubs where guys pick up freelancers, then it cannot be the bars or clubs which are the "rippers-off" as they have no influence on the prices the freelance girls charge. (They may rip you off on prices for drinks but then so do Passions and CMP, and I think you are only talking about chica prices?)
I also disagree with the latter part of your sentence. There are exceptions to everything, but the general trend is for newbies to start at Blackbeards and Passions, etc, and gravitate to freelancers on later trips when they have more knowledge. They do so to save money and to find a less "professional" type of girl. The other group who may go straight to freelancers is weekend warriors who have done the research, or think they have, by word-of-mouth recommendations from friends and acquaintances where they live and work. So more or less the opposite to what you are suggesting.
It doesn't take any research to find out about Blackbeards, or Passion, or Cristal or Club Cocoa. Every confused-looking newbie will be pounced on by tigueres and taxi-drivers only too eager to introduce them to such places and get their cut.
It does take some research or, at least, some experience to be able to find better and cheaper freelance girls than in those places.
That is when someone becomes a "real" monger. Whether that is a badge one of which one should be proud is a different discussion.
Your comments on pricing are spot-on.[/QUOTE]Well, I should clarify and say the guy who doesn't think "economically" and will acquiesce. That happens in the clubs where there are no menu. By freelance I mean "no menu", no set pricing structure. There is no acquiescing happening in "menu" joints. It is not possible unless she is begging for a propina. Or maybe they don't have negotiating skills. Maybe they fall for the girl and don't want to negotiate. Or maybe they are just not intelligent to offer her a lower amount. Must be one of these reasons. I could see the not wanting to negotiate as being a reason for me.
Personally, I would love if a hotel in Sosua morphed into being a HDR CR sort of place. Not loud, decent lighting. With the added benefits of girls being registered to the place and with a big menu sign plastered all over. But I guess Passions and CMP etc already mark up for that third party service. It is my personal preference not to have to go to a loud bar just to find a chica I like. And I don't want to drink anything more than a light beer anyway in an environment where probably %30 (or more, actually) would try and take advantage of me if I was drunk. No way I would ever do hard alcohol in any of these places. Also, the bad lighting sucks. There should be bright lighting everywhere and a no-corset rule haha.
[QUOTE=Cngrgo; 1399256]If I wanted a hamburger and I can go to Burger King and pay the same much as an unknown joint, I at least know Burger King has some quality control. It's not necessarily a cheapness thing, just that I want to be assured of no drama. Also, I find negotiating to hinder the GFE.
From the opinion of the guys who frequent the area, would a chica rather work freelance or rather work in a place like Blackbeard's, Passions, CMP etc? Seems to me from board reports that ironically freelance clubs are rip-offs based on tourists who never did the research to see about places like Blackbeard's and Passions and therefore jacking up that area of the market. Or maybe Blackbeard's and CMP have much less desirable girls?[/QUOTE]Burger King has precious little quality control. They supposedly flame broil the burgers but then microwave them to warm them up again, make the bread hot and soggy and the burger dry. Ugh.
I would always prefer a hamburger from an independent stall, though the product may be unpredictable, at least you stand some chance of getting a decent burger, while at BK you have no chance.
Places like BB and Passions require a full time commitment from the girls. In the freelance bars you are more likely to find part timers, or girls who have day jobs too. With the freelancers you are more likely, though not certain, to be her first of the day.
Desirability is in the eye of the beholder. I don't care much for the Passion's type girls (mostly thin, fair skin, very young) and the horrible Halloween colored black and orange uniforms they have to wear do nothing for them. The music there can be loud and obnoxious too.
I don't like going to bars with loud music, smoke, etc. Either to look for a girl, but actually you can just walk past the semi open air bars or walk through and if you see something you like, you can just take her out without stopping for a drink. The Classico disco is / was better if it ever gets back to how it used to be, but it gets going very late and is best at weekends. They seem to be going out of their way to make the bars in Sosua horrible these days, but I guess some people must like them or they would not do it.
I care not for casas and bordellos / The girls have no true enthusiam. They have to fuck what ever walks in. I have seen some guys in BB who were atrocious. In Sosua the freelancers have a choice. Like Frannie said you find a wide range of girls. I dance with them and negotiate while I am having fun with them. In truth we all have our likes and dislikes. I like the illusion of hunting.
QUOTE=Frannie; 1399416]Burger King has precious little quality control. They supposedly flame broil the burgers but then microwave them to warm them up again, make the bread hot and soggy and the burger dry. Ugh.
I would always prefer a hamburger from an independent stall, though the product may be unpredictable, at least you stand some chance of getting a decent burger, while at BK you have no chance.
Places like BB and Passions require a full time commitment from the girls. In the freelance bars you are more likely to find part timers, or girls who have day jobs too. With the freelancers you are more likely, though not certain, to be her first of the day.
Desirability is in the eye of the beholder. I don't care much for the Passion's type girls (mostly thin, fair skin, very young) and the horrible Halloween colored black and orange uniforms they have to wear do nothing for them. The music there can be loud and obnoxious too.
I don't like going to bars with loud music, smoke, etc. Either to look for a girl, but actually you can just walk past the semi open air bars or walk through and if you see something you like, you can just take her out without stopping for a drink. The Classico disco is / was better if it ever gets back to how it used to be, but it gets going very late and is best at weekends. They seem to be going out of their way to make the bars in Sosua horrible these days, but I guess some people must like them or they would not do it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;1398357]After 10 minutes my toes curled and I busted one of the best nuts of my life. 3 hours later on the plane I was still feeling the after glow. I t was a great experience. We really like one another and wanted to please.[/QUOTE]Man you ever bust a nut so hard you feel the sensation in your brain? Almost like a brain freeze? LOL.
A Haitian girl from Passions was hands down the best BJ of my life. She wasn't able to swallow all of me but dammit she tried her absolute best!
You'd never tell from the look of her because she had a very cute, innocent face.
[QUOTE=Cngrgo;1399294]It is my personal preference not to have to go to a loud bar just to find a chica I like.[/QUOTE]You won't be spending much time in Passions then. The music is deafening there.
Everybody has their on style and preferences. The Iftc site is almost dedicatesd to Black Beards. For them it is nervana. Guys are in cue for the girls at BB they have rated. The thought of me and my friends banging the same girls has zero appeal to me, I did BB one time and never need to go back. (point and click) It s interesting seeing what floats other peoples boats. I will be in Sosua Monday with my wing men. I will try to post some updates.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1399467]You won't be spending much time in Passions then. The music is deafening there.[/QUOTE]