Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MachoDik;1632387]1) in Pattaya, is the action area concentrate in Walking street or also in Soi Metro? Last time as time is not allowed me to further adventure other spot, so I only concentrate in Walking street and I have seen so many a go go bars along the street and till the far end, I can see some outdoor open air beer bars wherein the girls around there also can be taken out too.

2) Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?

Cheers,

MD[/QUOTE]In Pattaya. More action areas would be, Beach Road Sois 6, 7, 8, entire stretch of Soi Buakhao (not just Soi LK Metro and Soi LK which are just two sub-sois), Soi Diana Inn (also a Soi Buakhao sub-soi) and this extremely famous but I forgot the name of this Soi which is full of bars and Massage Parlors, this Soi is right after Soi LK as you go towards the north. May be some one can name this Soi for MD (and me)?

Also the second road end of Sois 2, 3 and 4 (near Big see North Pattaya).

In Bangkok. Soi Nana's freelancers would be the cheapest and you will also find many African women there. Something I forgot to mention earlier.

I think Pattaya has employed many of these high-end girls so-called coyotes which are always a waste unless you are paying even higher prices than the usual agogo girls and the second problem could very well be the introduction of pathetic discos such as Tony's, Insomnia, Mixx which are actually a more modern brothel where girls sell themselves as almost-freelancers but still making money out of the lady drinks (which is understandable) but they are so up their own asses and ask for really crazy prices by giving silly excuses that we don't have to pay a barfine and that she is better quality blah blah blah.

But the biggest drawback is that you don't get to see the girl (completely naked) before you pick her up like you do in agogos.

Discos are nothing but a con.

Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.

[quote=freekick;1632939]assault, physical fights when you reject or ignore them.

robbing your belongings while engaging you in a friendly chat. etc. , etc. ,

the list goes on if anyone can search for.

ladyboy assault in pattaya.

ladyboy steal / theft / robbery in pattaya.

the stories you'll see are actual facts and it happens every week, and on the other hand how many ggs do we see assaulting tourists every week?

still, i don't have anything against their choice of lifestyle.

i hope you are not serious?

calling them 'guys' would be considered extremely sarcastic and could end up in negative consequences especially when they're working so hard to portray themselves as 'gals'. but i guess that was just a figure of speech.[/quote]i can only say what works for me. i often walk up soi 6/1 at nighttime (often to avoid being spotted by a soi 6 girl i might have promised to visit), and when accosted by the gentlemen of the night a cheery greeting and a high five gets a smile. it's just a recognition that we both know it's all a bit of a game. they are not ogres or trolls and probably occasionally enjoy a laugh. on other occasions i have said slightly more irritably that 'i'm looking for a lady' and i don't think i have offended anyone.

sure you can google 'ladyboy assaults in pattaya' and get results. you can also google 'moon landing was a fake' and get results.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]I can't answer your question, but remember that just because you can get full service for 500 baht from a beach road girl, that doesn't benchmark the price. Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]Recently I reported about one of these legit massage places, this place was attached to my hotel so I ordered room service. Came in a busty flirty gal, so I asked if there was more on offer. I was quoted THB 700 or 1000 for a HJ (will need to go back to the report and check). I just turned her down laughing, since better value is to be had at one of the smaller massage places all around offering a lot more.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633026]Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.[/QUOTE]Yes, but so much for a HJ? Paying better bucks for a legit massage girl (for FS) may still be OK because she is not a beach road girl, but not for a HJ IMHO.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633048]Recently I reported about one of these legit massage places, this place was attached to my hotel so I ordered room service. Came in a busty flirty gal, so I asked if there was more on offer. I was quoted THB 700 or 1000 for a HJ (will need to go back to the report and check). I just turned her down laughing, since better value is to be had at one of the smaller massage places all around offering a lot more.[/QUOTE]It just seems like there's a ton of these massage joints around, some with some decent lookers. Suprised there isn't more written about them, then again maybe experienced hobbiest know to avoid these places. I wouldn't mind a nice hour long massage followed by a BBBJ from a cutie. Maybe its best just to stick with the full service joints for this type of service.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. That is way over priced for a HJ. She should just do the massage and let you tip afterwards for the good service.

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633026]I can't answer your question, but remember that just because you can get full service for 500 baht from a beach road girl, that doesn't benchmark the price. Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.[/QUOTE]If HE is only getting a HJ from a massage place there is no reason to overpay.

In any case, if you did want to compare the two, the BR girl would be doing more than just a hand shake. She will do a massage, HJ, BJ, and FS for 700-1000. If the massage girl is just doing a massage and adding a HJ at the end she should get less.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]I reported a few months ago that I was able to bring one home with me. I had to pay 500 for the 2 hour outcall massage and I gave her 500 for FS. Recently, I had her stay the night. She lives upstairs in the shop. She came with me when they closed at midnight and I took her back about noon the next day. I gave her the same 1000 that I give everyone else for all night.

I also have one at my regular massage shop who comes to stay with me that I have never given anything to. We just go on regular dates. I had known her for a couple of years but she always thought I was joking about going out. Finally, one day back in March we went to eat and went to the movies. Then I took her home and got her drunk. She has stayed a few times since then. She said she had not been with a man for a few years since she left her hometown and her boyfriend broke up with her.

Another time I did FS with a girl in a massage parlor on Soi 6. She started at 1000 but I got her down to 500. We had to be quiet because, well, the only thing that separated us from other people was the curtain. After that she would always try to get me to come in when I passed the place.

Yet another time I met one in a massage shop in Nana Plaza mall. She came over after work and spent the night. I gave her the same 1000 that I give everyone else. We stayed in touch for a while.

My first action ever in Thailand was in a massage parlor in Bangkok down an alley across from Nana Hotel. I remember me and my wingman giving the girls 300 extra for HJ. Knowing what I know now, I would not pay more than 200.

Bottom line is probably to flirt with them and see where it leads to. The most recent girl that I talked about first I didn't flirt anything. I was just driving by and saw her out front and stopped and asked how much for a massage at my place. She said 500 for 2 hours. Then I asked how much I had to give her. She said up to me. But I guess you see my pattern now. Regardless of the situation, I give chicks 500 baht for ST and 1000 baht for LT. The exception is Beach Road where I try to talk them down to 400 for ST because I have to pay 100 for the ST room.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1633202]The exception is Beach Road where I try to talk them down to 400 for ST because I have to pay 100 for the ST room.[/QUOTE]That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.

Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633136]If HE is only getting a HJ from a massage place there is no reason to overpay.

In any case, if you did want to compare the two, the BR girl would be doing more than just a hand shake. She will do a massage, HJ, BJ, and FS for 700-1000. If the massage girl is just doing a massage and adding a HJ at the end she should get less.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but you are missing the point. There is no 'should' about it. It's the market. A girl in a classy massage parlour may charge 1000 Bht for a HJ because she can. Her customers may be family guys on holiday who have slipped out for a 'legit' massage while the wife sleeps, or wealthy business men who wouldn't dream of cruising beach road. There is a market for everyone in Pattaya and you just have to find your niche. I would never pay for any kind of sex in a semi-legit massage parlour personally.

[QUOTE=FreeKick;1632960]In Pattaya. More action areas would be, Beach Road Sois 6, 7, 8, [/QUOTE]Actually it is Second Road Soi 6, 7, 8. Beach Road has no sois officially.
If you ask a moto driver to take you to Beach Road Soi 6 he will be puzzled.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1633273]That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.

Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.[/QUOTE]All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie!

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633278]All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie![/QUOTE]Mr. E. may be a Cheap Charlie, but HE provides great information for world wide travelers, such as myself. Central / South America, Asia, and so forth. I have known him for a while and know that his information is correct on all topics.