Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1625468]Actually, Colombia is not in the top ten of countries in the world regarding income disparity. See [URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/23/10-countries-with-worst-income-inequality_n_865869.html.[/URL] That does not negate your arguments, but desirability - Those that seek to invest in Colombia - Is not subject to empirical determination anymore than the stock market is. My subjective opinion is that Medellin is the diamond in the sand. Kind of like discovering a ten in El Centro. The climate, the friendly people, and of course the women make this place the Garden of Eden.

The world is discovering Colombia. Investment will pour in, especially if peace is made with the FARC. Just check out what the world is saying:

[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/colombias-resurgence/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/travel/colombia-revisited/story-e6frg8rf-1227040477366?nk=f775673f383c45f651b19de8039714c4[/URL]

[URL]http://www.businessoffashion.com/2014/08/colombia-open-ready-business.html[/URL]

[URL]http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/opinion/2014/07/30/rick-sanchez-colombia-truly-remarkable-comeback-story/[/URL][/QUOTE]Measuring using GINI-coefficient Colombia is the 10th worst in the world only poor African countries has worse income distribution.

CIAs figures in "The World factbook", is a simple guide, it's not controversial and the statistics are valid and relieable, much of the same that you will find from other institutions measuring and investigation economy.

[URL]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html?countryname=Colombia&countrycode=co&regionCode=soa&rank=10[/URL]#co.

This cultural based problem is the greatest obstacle for sustained high growth.

Except Taiwan all emerging countries has failed to make progress over the $US 20.000, in todays value, level since 1945. The reason is that the society can't create an economical and political middleclass that politicans need more than the middleclass need them!

I have read that in Foreign Affairs [URL]http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/138219/ruchir-sharma/broken-brics[/URL].

The Western culture has not only founded the Private Property-Institution, it's deep in our culture. In other culture it's not. Make the same laws that a Western country, the outcome while be very different, only Taiwan and once Japan has made it!

Yes. Medellin has much to offfer, is The Garden Of Eden.

Still, we must consider this historical data and ask Us selves; Can Colombia diverge from that pattern??

[quote=foxeshunter;1625363]tomorrow i will come back to my country. in medellin my head was always overwhelmed by a thousand thoughts. there are too many beautiful and sexy girls.

i'm in medellin for 20 days and i fucked more than 15 beautiful girls but. i don't like their fucking framework at all. every girl has a rigid framework. it is very easy to make photos or video with a "propina" but it is very difficult to change their fucking mode for a little time. for example you cannot kiss them in passionate way really, you cannot get tenderness, even if all a pretense, the colombian girls do not like to work on it. even if you pay very well for them, they are not able to give you an almost real girlfriend experience. their caresses are elusive, their kisses are few, small and elusive too, etc. etc. yet i have always paid them very well (200 k for all night). what do i have to tell you more? even if in medellin there many opportunities, you are not able to exploit them and enjoy a good sex time.

i have one or two colombian female friends with which i spent much time. they are wonderful girls, very funny, i love talking with them. but when i get sex with them, the speech changes. i'm 55 years old and nice, but i have a feeling that i have wasted a lot of money unsatisfactorily. i still have about a day in medellin but i will not spend my money again. colombia is disappointing me more and more.[/quote]to sum it up: you just can't buy chemestry.

i'll leave it at that.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1625489]Measuring using GINI-coefficient Colombia is the 10th worst in the world only poor African countries has worse income distribution.

CIAs figures in "The World factbook", is a simple guide, it's not controversial and the statistics are valid and relieable, much of the same that you will find from other institutions measuring and investigation economy.

[URL]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html?countryname=Colombia&countrycode=co&regionCode=soa&rank=10[/URL]#co.

This cultural based problem is the greatest obstacle for sustained high growth.

Except Taiwan all emerging countries has failed to make progress over the $US 20.000, in todays value, level since 1945. The reason is that the society can't create an economical and political middleclass that politicans need more than the middleclass need them!

I have read that in Foreign Affairs [URL]http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/138219/ruchir-sharma/broken-brics[/URL].

The Western culture has not only founded the Private Property-Institution, it's deep in our culture. In other culture it's not. Make the same laws that a Western country, the outcome while be very different, only Taiwan and once Japan has made it!

Yes. Medellin has much to offfer, is The Garden Of Eden.

Still, we must consider this historical data and ask Us selves; Can Colombia diverge from that pattern??[/QUOTE]I read your data, and I understand your argument. It certainly has merit. Notwithstanding the logic of and historical support for concern in investing in Colombia, my gut tells me that it's going to be a real beneficiary of investment. Right or wrong from a historical perspective, Medellin has remained undiscovered. The Colombian GDP grew last year at 4. 3 per cent, and construction 21.3 per cent growth. My disclaimer is that I am in the dis-accumulation chapter in my life. And, real estate was never my favored investment. It's too illiquid, and with taxes and other fees it never was attractive to me as an investment in Colombia or elsewhere.

Jack thanks for the thoughtful analysis.

And, as usual, only good energy!

[QUOTE=SamxMan;1625473]The Botero street ladies are not attractive at all in my opinion. Definitely the lowest end of the market. Also dangerous at night.[/QUOTE]I have never bothered going there, but Fox says there are 9's and even 10's. There are a lot of girls, so maybe 5% or less are such, but as a foreigner you can stroll along and wait and pay much for the girl your really want, as the price is 20-30 k pesos, 100 is a lot for an independent prepago.

I have had to much sex here. I can't motivate myself to invite more girls to my partment. I know how to pick up girls at Colombiancupid easily and quickly; write $$ and a little blaha about making a deal. And then go to whatsapp. Then the innocent girl in the profile are prepared to anything you want. And it's quick, if you are horney and want a girl, just do it, and invite. There's problem that no one can solve; waiting for paisa. But considering this and accumulating 5 contacts, there should always be 2-3 ready to scramble when you feel like it!

I'm exhuasted, the craving for young babes come and goes in waves, soon it will be 5 months here. Never been so easy to focus on important stuff as when you are satisfied long-term with the girls here.

That can be done in a short period of time. Let's say 2-3 weeks. XXXX 24/7 and then go home and work. Twice a year. You will be the employee with the highest prodoctivity ever!

In the prepago area I don't know how to find something new, apart from Foxhunters discovery at Iglesia Veracruz.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1625553]I read your data, and I understand your argument. It certainly has merit. Notwithstanding the logic of and historical support for concern in investing in Colombia, my gut tells me that it's going to be a real beneficiary of investment. Right or wrong from a historical perspective, Medellin has remained undiscovered. The Colombian GDP grew last year at 4. 3 per cent, and construction 21.3 per cent growth. My disclaimer is that I am in the dis-accumulation chapter in my life. And, real estate was never my favored investment. It's too illiquid, and with taxes and other fees it never was attractive to me as an investment in Colombia or elsewhere.

Jack thanks for the thoughtful analysis.

And, as usual, only good energy![/QUOTE]Sir, Legal tender, thanks for your reply. And your good energy!

We on the forum would like to know ther you got the 21.3% construction number from?

[URL]http://www.larepublica.co/economia/construcci%C3%B3n-y-miner%C3%ADa-llevar%C3%ADan-el-crecimiento-econ%C3%B3mico-de-colombia-en-2014-5_89771[/URL]

There it says 9. 3%, but equally curious about your number.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1625589]Sir, Legal tender, thanks for your reply. And your good energy!

We on the forum would like to know ther you got the 21.3% construction number from?

[URL]http://www.larepublica.co/economia/construcci%C3%B3n-y-miner%C3%ADa-llevar%C3%ADan-el-crecimiento-econ%C3%B3mico-de-colombia-en-2014-5_89771[/URL]

There it says 9. 3%, but equally curious about your number.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.investincolombia.com.co/news/682-the-fourth-nation-with-the-highest-economic-growth-in-2014.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1625589]Sir, Legal tender, thanks for your reply. And your good energy!

We on the forum would like to know ther you got the 21.3% construction number from?

[URL]http://www.larepublica.co/economia/construcci%C3%B3n-y-miner%C3%ADa-llevar%C3%ADan-el-crecimiento-econ%C3%B3mico-de-colombia-en-2014-5_89771[/URL]

There it says 9. 3%, but equally curious about your number.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile the Colombian peso is getting crushed.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1625709][URL]http://www.investincolombia.com.co/news/682-the-fourth-nation-with-the-highest-economic-growth-in-2014.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks Legal Tender.

This figure is to be compared with the development of the incomes for the middleclass. And the total amount of the middelcass incomes since it increase 1% of the population a year last decade, from 16 to 25%, meaning people with incomes from 2 M COP a month to 10 M COP. And the average income for everyone within the class increases as well.

If there are a good correlation between inomces and construccion increase, prices of housing and construction then the risk for a bubble is small, otherwise Colombia is heading towards a real estate crisis.

The risk for this has been mentioned by Serfinco and Todoestadistica.

[URL]http://www.serfinco.com.co/site/Portals/0/Coyuntura/Analisis_del_mercado_de_vivienda_en_colombia%202013.pdf[/URL] [URL]http://todoestadistica.com/modelacion-del-precio-de-la-vivienda-usada-en-medellin/[/URL].

A factor that makes the market more steady in Colombia is the demand that 20-40% of the capital must be payed upfront when buying property, this limits the risk for crisis and it's effect when it eventually comes.

If the total amount of credit increases more rapidly than incomes year after year that is also a sign that warns about a bubble.

With facts in hand it is no so difficult to see why the world economy hit the finiancial crisis 2008 when looking at the correlation of the various types of data.

Problem is that for example credits in the whole economy is estimated and the real number is collected , (?) 1-2 year afterwards and thats why its impossible for a Central bank to know if to hit the brakepedal of give more gas!

If prices sticks out and also construccion there are pure speculation going on.

But so far so good!

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1625553]I read your data, and I understand your argument. It certainly has merit. Notwithstanding the logic of and historical support for concern in investing in Colombia, my gut tells me that it's going to be a real beneficiary of investment. Right or wrong from a historical perspective, Medellin has remained undiscovered. The Colombian GDP grew last year at 4. 3 per cent, and construction 21.3 per cent growth. My disclaimer is that I am in the dis-accumulation chapter in my life. And, real estate was never my favored investment. It's too illiquid, and with taxes and other fees it never was attractive to me as an investment in Colombia or elsewhere.

Jack thanks for the thoughtful analysis.

And, as usual, only good energy![/QUOTE]First, thanks for the link to the constrution data and the site is splendid for any foreginer in the moment of starting to do business here.

"My subjective opinion is that Medellin is the diamond in the sand. ".

"Notwithstanding the logic of and historical support for concern in investing in Colombia, my gut tells me that it's going to be a real beneficiary of investment. Right or wrong from a historical perspective, Medellin has remained undiscovered. ".

That is very intereresting quotes indeed!

[URL]http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/attractively-priced-real-estate-courtesy-of-pablo-escobar[/URL]

A Real Estate experts concluds that out of courtesy of Pablo Escobar and the Medellin Cartell the rumour in the world is still so bad that is affects foreigns trade and investments.

He concludes that buying property here gives you 100% in less than 10 years, and then it's in a country with very low inflation, and it comes much from the rapid introduction of new technologial systems that are expensive but much more effective, or can do things that nevar has been done before on Colombian soil. So with the circumstances that has been since the last decade, it's practically "pure" 100% increase. That can be done a lot shorter period of 10 years, if you know exactly where to invest.

Legal Tender; Can you give us examples that Medellin still is "undiscovered", which indicates that here are an huge amout of business opportunites to exploit!

"Medellin is the diamond in the sand"; Yes. But also won the titel "most innovative city in the world 2013", in competition with New York and Tel Aviv which inticates that it's discovered, but to what extent?

Info it's kind of mixed when it comes to how much of Medellin potential growth opportunites there still are undiscovered in Medellin.

One aspect that is fundamental to the country's risk-factor is the civil war. If it only can be keep at this level, it's OK, Colombia is relatively safe. But about real peace? Is it graspable?

And again; the middlecass; can it continue to grow both in size and incomes?

Con Mucho Gusto see Jack Sparrow.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1626041]First, thanks for the link to the constrution data and the site is splendid for any foreginer in the moment of starting to do business here.

"My subjective opinion is that Medellin is the diamond in the sand. ".

"Notwithstanding the logic of and historical support for concern in investing in Colombia, my gut tells me that it's going to be a real beneficiary of investment. Right or wrong from a historical perspective, Medellin has remained undiscovered. ".

That is very intereresting quotes indeed!

[URL]http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/attractively-priced-real-estate-courtesy-of-pablo-escobar[/URL]

A Real Estate experts concluds that out of courtesy of Pablo Escobar and the Medellin Cartell the rumour in the world is still so bad that is affects foreigns trade and investments.

He concludes that buying property here gives you 100% in less than 10 years, and then it's in a country with very low inflation, and it comes much from the rapid introduction of new technologial systems that are expensive but much more effective, or can do things that nevar has been done before on Colombian soil. So with the circumstances that has been since the last decade, it's practically "pure" 100% increase. That can be done a lot shorter period of 10 years, if you know exactly where to invest...[/QUOTE]Enough already!

[QUOTE=Kelso1;1626117]Enough already![/QUOTE]Yes, PLEASE send all the political, economic, etc jibber jabber to the General section.

Gracias!!

Haven't been spoiled in that section for a while, so I went looking for providers. Entered [URL]ChicasLindas.com[/URL] and watched the parade. One in particular called my attention: Jennifer. Looked like she is a trigueña but with a fair skin. Good proportioned lean body with no excesses on the bust and butt parts. Settled on 60 K including the fee for the house. She did a good job. Dedicated to the last drop!

As I enjoyed very much the treat, a couple of days later I went back. Alas, no Jennifer. After the parade I asked for Sofia, but she didn't feel like doing the job. She went back and I heard her telling the others the reason of her withdrawal. Some giggling followed and the two others I invited after her, refused as well.

So I decided to visit the neighbours on the same floor: Fantasias.

There were about 8 girls present and I picked Pilar. Kinda trigueña also. Color of skin and body shape very similar to Jennifer. As she was willing to do the job and she agreed to the same 60 K all-in, we went into the room. She did a good job, but Jennifer was slightly better.

So, if you like the combination I enjoyed, try to get Jennifer at [URL]ChicasLindas.com[/URL].

Perhaps are you talking about chicas punto com?

I don't know why you guys want to talk endlessly about the Colombian economy, property market, diet etc on a forum dedicated to sex!

In an effort to get thing back on track my recommendation of the week is Conejitas strip club. On Friday and Saturday nights you will find about 30 - 40 sexy ladies and the price is 25 USD for about 40 minutes. Some are very attractive (many certainly are not). One of my favorite spots. Beers are only 2 USD so also a nice place just to hang out. As ever, be careful in this part of Centro especially at night.

I'm taking my first trip to Medellin next month and I have been able to connect with a few chicas on Facebook. My question is what's the best way to clarify the "arrangement" before hand? I'd prefer not to come right out and ask how much as to not offend the "non-pros" plus I'd love to secure a few non-pros for the future trips. That being said the last thing I want to do is have a chica come over. Bang her out. And then get into a fight because she's asking for some ridiculous amount. Any thoughts?